[12:07] so how do you guys run counterstrike...with cedega? [12:07] CellarDoor: you might get some luck running gnome-control- [12:08] mart: sorry....man === Sputn1k [srqxab@ip-195-14-191-72.bnk.lt] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] When i trying to load win partition i get mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs', how can i install ntfs mode? [12:09] ray_: no problem, I didn't realise you were replying to him, because you replied so fast! === Aapzak [~aapzak@ip44-163-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:09] i mean module not mode [12:09] its kde thats the problem, i don't really care if i can't get gnome apps to look better, I just thought It would be nice [12:09] mart: i should have mad myself more clear [12:10] CellarDoor: i cant believe kde looks bad for you....and how do you set your screen to hi-res? [12:10] its the fonts that look bad [12:10] then change them [12:10] CellarDoor: do they look bad when you first log in, or only after you run a gnome app? [12:11] change screen res in control centre-peripherals-display [12:11] cool [12:12] they look bad fullstop - fiddling with anti-aliasing in the control centre does nothing [12:14] CellarDoor: I guess you've seen the "you need to restart applications for font settings to take effect" (or something) dialog box [12:15] yeah been there done that === mart breaks --- eyes hurt [12:16] you guys read the new tux [12:17] ? [12:17] nope [12:17] whats that [12:18] its and online magazine that is sent through email as pdf........they have a good article about the advantages of using debian and ubuntu/kubuntu [12:18] ah rite [12:18] bye [12:21] what do the new kde 3.4.2 packages fix? [12:23] dunno [12:23] I'm adding repo so I can get it [12:24] maybe It will fix my fonts ;) [12:24] frank_: bugs [12:24] lol [12:24] apokryphos: bugs from the last 3.4.2? [12:24] does kcontrol work better? [12:24] frank_: no, from 3.4.1 [12:25] apokryphos: there is a second version of 3.4.2 out today [12:25] if you're talking about the newer packages in the *kubuntu* repository (as opposed to the old ones), then it's just going to be package-related fixes === CellarDoor fires up kynaptic [12:25] well 36 packages changed today [12:26] See the individual package changelogs for more info [12:26] apokryphos: the changelogs are not there [12:27] frank_: erm, of course they are. Whether they are documented to note the fixes is another issue [12:28] Failed to fetch the changelog for karm [12:28] URI was: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdepim/kdepim_3.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary2/changelog [12:29] frank_: I did say check the individual package changelogs... use apt/synaptic/kynaptic/kpackage [12:29] Ok, not actually sure if Kynaptic can do it actually [12:30] I'm using synaptic. That's where the error came from. I tried "Download changelog" for karm [12:31] it doesn't display the changelog in kynaptic? [12:31] you're also only checking kdepim [12:31] and it doesn't look like there's been another 3.4.2 version of kdepim [12:32] ok, looks like there is, but the changelog isn't showing on that site === sy [~sy@ppp-70-243-94-84.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] does anyone know how to compile files [12:33] in linux [12:33] I don't think kynaptic can see changelogs but I use synaptic all the time anyways. yeah I know there are no changelongs for any of the new packages as far as I can tell [12:33] sy: do you know how to Google? :) [12:33] frank_: there are always changelogs for packages [12:33] kdepim (4:3.4.2-0ubuntu2) [12:34] Add kubuntu_07_korganiser_libraries.diff fix compile order [12:34] Add kubuntu_08_kmail_attachments.diff fix empty attachments http://bugs.k [12:34] de.org/109003 [12:34] mart: how did you get that? [12:35] er, I've got the update and read /usr/share/doc/karm/changelog.Debian.gz but it's also at http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdepim/kdepim_3.4.2-0ubuntu1/changelog === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d58-104-21-142.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [""Righteousness] [12:35] actually, er.... [12:37] that's for breezy, but I guess the packages contain the same fixes [12:37] see also http://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_4_1to3_4_2.php [12:38] mart: he's looking for only the changes in the 3.4.2 packages produced originally, and the ones today [12:38] Synaptic doesn't show changelogs like I thought it did... I seem to view them fine in KPackage though [12:39] mart: I already had kde 3.4.2 in hoary. But today, it changed again. I'd like to know what changed between 3.4.2-0ubuntu0-hoary1 and 3.4.2-0ubuntu0-hoary2 [12:39] frank_: have you downloaded it already? [12:39] mart: yeah but not installed [12:40] yes i know how to google [12:40] frank_: oh, easiest thing is to install then read the unpacked changelog [12:40] sy: you didn't say what you wanted to compile [12:40] just 'files' [12:40] and i have looked all over the place but when i get the file where do i download it to my deskto [12:41] mart: I know... but usually you can know before what changed [12:41] desktop* [12:41] sy: read the "INSTALL" file that should come with the package, inside the tar === lgsobalvarro [~lgsobalva@cable200-116-195-39.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] ok thanks [12:42] i am kinda new to kubuntu [12:42] or linux [12:43] sy: no worries. Check the file provided, it has instructions and a description [12:43] sy: and, what is it that you're trying to compile? === foobrain [~jonas@c-9101e055.014-47-6f736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] sy: It's not often that you really need to compile stuff [12:44] Hello [12:44] Very impressive linux dist [12:44] hello foobrain [12:45] May I ask what compiler I should install? === frank_ takes all the credit ;-) [12:45] I want to be able to build glib for instance [12:45] build-essential is a good bet [12:45] mostly because firefox wont install without it :) [12:45] footbrain install glib, automake, make... [12:46] foobrain: you can get firefox with apt-get or synaptic [12:46] foobrain: you're compiling firefox? [12:46] well i am kinda dumb [12:46] sy: what is it you want to install? [12:46] hi i am trying to make OpenGL work with X. seems i cannot achieve Direct Rendering. I got about 70 fps with glgears and then i trid to set useinternalAGPgart to TRUE then i got about 10x better framerate, stil it sucks and cant even be used for screensavers [12:47] mart: I get an error message when trying to run firefox-install [12:47] airsnort [12:47] frank_: how would I go about getting firefox with apt-get or synaptic? heh [12:47] foobrain: what's wrong with the packaged firefox? why are you trying to compile it? [12:48] mart: I'm not trying to compile it, I'm trying to install it... or am I doing it wrong? [12:48] i love linux and how smooth [12:48] it is [12:48] !repositories [12:48] rumour has it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos [12:48] foobrain: check out this link, then use synaptic to install stuff [12:48] sy: same thing for you too [12:48] foobrain: firefox is in the Ubuntu repositories, there's a binary, so there's no need to install it from the package provided at mozilla.org [12:49] foobrain: just sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox [12:49] thanks guys [12:51] eh, which is best, the synaptic or apt-get? [12:52] I'm confused... hehe [12:52] silly me [12:52] will the ubuntu repo allow me to install dev apps? [12:52] another question, what [12:52] 's the default root pw? [12:53] I can't recall setting one when I installed the os [12:53] Synaptic and APT are the same thing. Synaptic is just the GUI front-end of apt [12:53] oh, roger that [12:53] There is no root password in Ubuntu [12:53] !rootsudo [12:53] somebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [12:54] aha... interesting [12:54] Install dev apps...? What? === wellso [~wellso@62-249-204-233.adsl.entanet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] so I can compile and code and stuff [12:57] yes, of course [12:57] I just noticed [12:57] very cool [12:58] kubuntu called it Kynaptic instead of synaptic... confusing [12:58] They're different programs [12:58] ok [01:00] i still prefer synaptic [01:00] Kynaptic is very primitive [01:00] where can I find synaptic then? [01:00] is it gnome only or... ? [01:01] not entirely usable, even, I think. If you need to use a GUI KDE front-end use KPackage [01:01] install synaptic with kynaptic] [01:01] ... it's that easy ey? [01:01] kool [01:01] i just type sudo synaptic [01:01] synaptic works perfectly in kde too [01:01] wellso: you should *never* run GUI apps with plain sudo [01:01] kdesu [01:01] lol still trying remember that one [01:02] =) [01:02] synaptic ends up in the kde system menu [01:02] frank_: it's just about bearable once you have the gtk-qt package [01:03] apokryphos: I don't even have that, does it work well? [01:03] Very well, yes. You should definitely get it. Any GTK apps (if you use any) are pretty ugly otherwise [01:04] apokryphos: I know, they are... but it didn't really bother me but more consistency would be nice [01:04] has it got a package in the rep.? [01:04] Yes. gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [01:05] thanks mate [01:05] I think they might make that a default package installed for Kubuntu. They sure should. [01:05] you can then modify the settings for GTK apps in kcontrol, btw. [01:07] apokryphos: does it pretty up firefox too? [01:07] apokryphos: I mean the save dialog [01:07] To some degree, sure. The package makes it so that all GTK apps use teh Qt style/windec === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _frank [~frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] <_frank> apokryphos: I installed gtk-qt engine but I don't see any difference in synaptic. I restarted kde since then. anything else I need to do? === guilhermee [~guilherme@200.217.142.64] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] _frank: check the settings from kcontrol === Douglas [~Douglas__@st.vincent.static.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] so let's say I upgraded to weezy on my laptop and it broke everything, how do I downgrade again? [01:16] Douglas: things *are* broken in breezy. X is currently broken, I believe. [01:16] To downgrade you'd have to do a few force installs with dpkg I guess. Would be quite a big hassle, I'd imagine. [01:17] could you recover your stuff with the live CD and re-install? [01:17] <_frank> apokryphos: Ok I got synaptic to change but it looks worse. It doesn't look like my other kde app either. [01:17] _frank: did you make it use the current Qt theme/windec/font? [01:17] <_frank> yeah [01:17] seriously, that blows, and makes me sad. [01:18] <_frank> as far as the kcontrol settings go yeah [01:18] it's not going to look like them, but it will use the same KDE theme and windec. Are you saying it's not? [01:18] Douglas: whats broken [01:18] ? [01:18] X seems to be broken for starters. [01:18] so just apt-get install xorg --force [01:18] <_frank> Well the basic "empty space" color is different so I don't think its using the same [01:18] or something? [01:18] I changed my sources.list back. [01:19] that would be my plan of attack but I dont really know much about linux [01:19] That won't really do anything, since apt always looks for the latest version. [01:19] oh, can I force it to downgrade a single package? [01:20] hey, could I do, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop or something like that then re add it? [01:20] with dpkg, I believe you can, yeah. [01:20] could apt remove the package and then re-install from the terminal [01:21] Because I did it to my desktop box to but I havn't reboot yet. [01:21] :) [01:21] the laptop however just pooped all over itself [01:21] when I rebooted it. [01:21] you could use dpkg --install --force-overwrite {somepackage}.deb [01:21] are u running breezy on both? [01:21] I'll try some stuff but I'll probably just reinstall later [01:22] Douglas: reinstalling is probably the best option [01:22] I was, but I changed my sources.list back to hoary and did an apt-get update and and apt-get dist-upgrade [01:22] damn, that makes me super sad. [01:22] I'll work on it. [01:22] Thanks everytone. === _frank [~frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] <_frank> apokryphos: I got rid of the gtk-qt thing. I like it better this way === foobrain [~jonas@c-9101e055.014-47-6f736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] _frank: I'm kind of wondering if you've got it right, since GTK apps are super ugly without it [01:26] not quite sure how you'd get it wrong though... [01:26] super ugly? [01:26] what makes them look better? [01:26] The style is hard to look at, yes. [01:26] <_frank> apokryphos: it was even worse [01:26] The change in style, and the window decoration. Looks like I'm properly running a GUI app, should I ever venture into it [01:27] how exactly would it be *worse*? Are you saying that your KDE theme is bad? [01:27] what should I install to make them look better? [01:27] maybe you shoulda pulled in a screeny... [01:27] foobrain: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [01:27] <_frank> apokryphos: I'm using plastik as theme and synaptic was not using that [01:27] apokryphos: where do I find that? I didn't find it in Synaptic [01:28] _frank: then something apparently went wrong [01:28] foobrain: it's in Universe. You'll have to add that repository. See... [01:28] !repositories [01:28] methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos [01:29] heh, someone left the comma there [01:30] ubotu: no repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [01:30] apokryphos: okay [01:30] Ok. Also just realised those are made for gnomers [01:31] foobrain: basically, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment (remove the "#") from the line that has "Universe" [01:32] ok, let me try that [01:33] You will need to have root permissions to edit the file. So alt+f2 -> kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list [01:33] err.... alt+f2 -> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list [01:33] ty [01:34] uncomment all lines with Universe in them+ [01:34] ? [01:34] yes [01:34] in windows if a programs run into trouble you can do ctrl+alt+delete what is the equivalent in linux ? === Kejk_PL [~konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] Ctrl+Esc for the processes running. Ctrl+Alt+Esc + Click to kill a program, or killall {appname} in konsole [01:36] these should only really be used as a last result [01:39] is there a gallery somewhere that allows you to see the differences between qt and other themes? [01:40] heh... google, sorry for the retarded q [01:41] Qt isn't a theme [01:41] It's a toolkit for C++ [01:41] it's the toolkit that KDE uses [01:41] yeah I know [01:41] many different *kde* themes at http://kdelook.org [01:42] y [01:42] ty [01:42] what do I have to do to see the changes now that I've installed gtk2-engine-qt? [01:43] In theory, just restart the GTK app. In practice, it seems that a lot of people have had to restart KDE [01:43] and how do I restart KDE? reboot? [01:44] foobrain: KMenu -> Logout [01:44] End Current Session [01:44] ok [01:45] can I install more gtk2 themes at the same time and somewhere choose which to use? [01:46] gtk themes are useful for GNOME... in KDE you only use KDE themes [01:47] ok thx [01:47] bbiab === beltranuser [~beltranus@62-15-211-47.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] hola === beltranuser is now known as biF === foobrain [~jonas@c-9101e055.014-47-6f736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] fixed it [01:53] had to select QT from "GTK Styles and Fonts" in the Control Center === frank_ [~frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === FernyB [~ubuntu@pool-71-103-84-85.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === FernyB [~ubuntu@pool-71-103-84-85.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === dargo [~dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === sy [~sy@ppp-70-243-94-84.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] man i can not figure out how to install stuff [02:18] can NY ONE TELL ME WHERE TO GO TO INSTALL STUFF [02:19] Run synaptic or knaptic [02:20] sy: and quit shouting [02:20] sorry i just fixed that === beltranuser [~beltranus@62-15-211-47.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === beltranuser is now known as Rioja23 === ubuntu-es [~ubuntu-es@200.60.217.226] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [~gcamposm@200.60.217.226] has joined #kubuntu === mark_ [foobar@marksnb.eng.unimelb.edu.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] hi everyone, I'm having a problem with pam_ldap... [03:13] from /var/log/auth.log (client) "Invalid user maksym from ::ffff:127.0.0.1" [03:13] more info at: http://pastebin.com/328874 [03:14] can someone help me? === _kaplanfx [~kaplanfx@c-67-161-15-222.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === guilhermee [~guilherme@200.217.142.64] has left #kubuntu [] [03:21] Hi [03:22] I seem to have a KDE malfunction [03:22] I seem to have my Gnome and KDE trying to interoperate [03:22] I can't seem to adjust my wal paper === sy [~sy@ppp-70-243-94-84.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === spanglesontoast [~edd@eddland.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] do i have to go to konsole to in stall programs === spanglesontoast [~edd@eddland.plus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:28] sy you can use Kynaptic or Synaptic or Kpackage === spanglesontoast [~edd@eddland.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] is kde apps down? [03:30] i am new to linux but it is kinda hard [03:30] what do they do? [03:30] help to install thing [03:30] ? [03:31] someone get help for sy [03:31] :P [03:33] i think i am just dumb [03:35] nah [03:35] it's just not the right time of the nite [03:36] is there a command line app to read the cpu temp? [03:36] well i am really good with xp and i know xp inside and out [03:36] bet ya don't [03:36] popquiz [03:36] what [03:36] sy, run synaptic to install programs [03:36] what is the name of activation file? [03:36] for xp [03:37] yes [03:37] I seem to have my Gnome and KDE trying to interoperate [03:37] I can't seem to adjust my wallpaper [03:37] pyypmdmqmf377wb7667jh9py8 [03:37] er [03:37] that's a cd key [03:38] lol [03:38] and my context menu when it pops up is the Gnome menu [03:38] not the name of the file [03:38] the correct name is .wpa === Rogue_Jedi_X [~roguejedi@BSN-77-186-162.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === JayParadise [~james@cpe-024-088-121-092.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] bobbyd: [03:43] bobbyd: do i have to compile it [03:44] sy, it's in the k-menu system->kynaptic [03:44] the gnome version 'synaptic' is a more mature app IMHO [03:45] you can install that using kynaptic === Rogue_Jedi_X [~roguejedi@BSN-77-186-162.dsl.siol.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Rogue_Jedi_X [~roguejedi@BSN-77-186-162.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] ok found it and i want install airsnort === spanglesontoast [~edd@eddland.plus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] could someone explained why the "Keyboard model" listbox is empty in Keyboard Layout in the control centre ? [03:51] and i cant add keyboard layouts either [03:51] can i add these manually by having multiple sections in xorg.conf ? === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.40] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] i have a 104 key standard keyboard and it used to show before i upgradded KDE i think === ray_ [~ray@c-24-128-148-122.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] but then again i have also installed ati drivers, wich also messes with x === ray_ is now known as Kovecses [03:54] equex: whats the problem? [03:55] KDE doesnt see what keyboard i have and can thus not add new keyboard layouts it seems. all the controls in the control panel are just not functioning and they are all empty (in the Keyboard layout section? === basit [~abasit@216.254.103.193] has joined #kubuntu [03:55] can any tell me apt url for 5.10? [03:55] ) [03:55] somebody else had that problem [03:56] yeah [03:56] ive installed the ati drivers and didnt have that problem [03:56] makes me have to switch to windows to get actual work doe [03:56] done [03:56] :( [03:56] is kubuntu 5.10 is there? [03:57] it doesnt detect it even on a fresh install? [03:57] yes it worked perfectly before [03:57] suddenly it broke [03:58] basit: it's not out, but it's in development. [03:58] !breezy [03:58] gah [03:58] so i would take time and do a fresh install and try and do everything the same....and see what you did that broke it [03:58] ubotu: tell basit about breezy [03:58] apokryphos, can you tell me apt url to put it [03:58] apokryphos, i'm already running ubuntu breezy [03:58] Kovecses: hehe nope, i installed way too much to do that now [03:59] need to fix it the hard way [03:59] anyway [03:59] basit: many things are broken; and it's a huge mission to downgrade, but use it at your own peril. You just replace all entries of "hoary" with "breezy" [03:59] hmm...did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [03:59] yes Kovecses [03:59] did not fix it [04:00] apokryphos, i tried, [04:00] but not found [04:00] basit: can you paste the exact error output? [04:00] http://kubuntu.org/breezy-kde342/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz [04:00] 404 not found [04:00] equex: can you type at all with it? [04:00] heh [04:00] I probably is giving wrong url [04:01] :) [04:01] basit: don't do it for kubuntu.org stuff [04:01] basit: it's hoary-specific [04:01] hmm [04:01] then? [04:01] Kovecses: yes but only with english keymap. i need to be able to switch to norwegian keymap as well [04:01] basit: the other ones of course. Main, Universe, Multiverse... [04:01] they don't have 3.4.2 [04:02] equex: ahh ok [04:02] basit: yes, they do. [04:02] i did apt-get install kde [04:02] and now i *cant* add keymaps anymore, for some strange reason [04:02] equex: did you try kdesu kcontrol? [04:02] kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed [04:02] Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed [04:02] nope Kovecses [04:02] Hm, I see it hasn't been ported to breezy yet, then. [04:02] They obviously have no rush to do so, neither. [04:03] yup [04:03] equex: are the options greyed out or simply not there? [04:03] but xmms doesn't start in breezy [04:03] :) [04:03] basit: why would you use xmms? [04:03] abasit@basit:~$ xmms [04:03] Message: device: default [04:03] DBAudioLib ERROR: could not create shared memory for system data. [04:03] apokryphos, it can play wma [04:03] what else to use? === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:03] well, yeah, many things are gonna be broken. [04:03] heh Kovecses [04:04] equex: how did you switch them before? [04:04] i started kcontrol and for some reason knemo started.. that is a package i have had much problems with [04:04] my touchpad is shaky 2.6.12 === foodcoman [~berickson@c-24-20-116-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] knemo? whats that [04:04] Kovecses: i had it set up to switch with shift/contrl and i had an icon in the systray [04:05] some network monitor app i think, i never asked for it [04:05] i dont even have that === danne [~danne@c213-100-113-33.swipnet.se] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] suddenly something depended in it and broke some other stuff (like kdevelop) [04:05] it's in KDE extragear; not installed by default. [04:06] somebody in this room has to know [04:06] oh yeak kcontrol is what i was using Kovecses [04:07] Kovecses: know what? [04:07] equex: so when you go in there what happens === ralph1 [~ralph1@66-214-31-61.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:08] Kovecses: when i go to Regional and Accesibilty -> Keyboard layout, i cannot add layouts [04:08] equex: are they there though [04:08] no [04:08] its all empty === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:08] evenb the Keyboard Model list [04:09] evertyhing else inkcontrol works, just not that page [04:09] sounds like something's wrong with your kdelibs-data package [04:09] equex: yeah try reinstalling that [04:09] oh ofcourse ! [04:09] ill try reinstalling that [04:10] upgrade to 3.4.2 if you haven't already [04:10] did you upgrade? [04:10] i did [04:10] probably after the fact [04:11] can i just do dpgk reinstall kdelibs-data ? [04:11] cant do it from synaptic, gotta reinstall the whole KDE it seems [04:12] cannot mark just the lib for reinstall [04:12] equex: when did you install 3.4.2? [04:12] two days ago maybe [04:12] You should sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [04:13] i think i lost the maps before that but i am not reallysure if it was that or the ATI driver that broke it [04:13] a few fixes to the packages were uploaded recently [04:13] one of the two it was [04:13] okay [04:13] nothing to do with the ATI, I'm sure. [04:13]