=== azeem [~mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] ajmitch: please make sure, that before an import of wx, you call: [12:06] ogra: you forgot to include sdl-image1.2 in the tuxpaint main inclusion report [12:07] ajmitch: did you get the libsdl-sound bug report, btw? [12:07] Riddell: qca-tls has a main inclusion report, but it is neither seeded nor pulled in by a dependency [12:07] mdz, i havent worked on the list yet, i'll update it soon, there is more stuff to add [12:07] elmo: which one? [12:07] #1628, IIRC [12:08] elmo: if you're still awake, please sync gcc-defaults from unstable (again), and java-gcj-bootstrap (from incoming) [12:08] https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1628 [12:08] ok, will fix [12:09] wow, l-r-m in the build logs ... [12:09] mdz, do I need to change anyting in initrd.gz or someplace else? [12:11] mdz: hmm, I'm sure I added it to the seeds. I'll do that now [12:13] doko: meh, done [12:13] elmo: thanks :) === quitte [~quitte@p54A09DB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] holy crap, l-r-m [12:21] Amaranth: huh? [12:22] linux-restricted-modules [12:22] i don't think it should be trying to build on ia64... [12:22] i dont see it on -changes [12:23] tseng, look harder, its there :) [12:23] oh [12:24] i sitll have a search up [12:24] for sebastian [12:24] it built on i386, ppc, and amd64 [12:24] which is suprisingly very active :) [12:24] or, not suprising === du2br [~du2br@du2br.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] niktaris: I'm not sure, since I don't know where your initrd.gz came from [12:26] Riddell: ok, I'll go ahead and move it [12:27] jdub: what's the story with howl? [12:28] mdz, it's a standard sarge initrd.gz from the netinstall iso [12:28] mdz: I've added to seed now === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] Riddell: are the gnupg2 dependencies coming back, or can gnupg2 move out to universe? [12:33] anyone encountered build breakages in the ./configure stage when pkg-config checks fails even if the package providing the .pc file is supposed to be installed according to the log? [12:33] see latest xfprint4 [12:34] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/x/xfprint4/4.2.2-1/xfprint4_4.2.2-1_20050803-1759-i386-failed.gz [12:35] Riddell: likewise for libassuan, pinentry, pcsc-lite and some others which originally came in as kubuntu deps for hoary === kinjoo [~kinjoo@p54AA677A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === yann__ [~Yann2@p54A5EBE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yann__ is now known as Yann2 === jljes [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-61-4.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] mdz: depends if we want to support s/mime x.509 stuff in kmail [01:02] we're having a discussion over packaging standards might somebody join us for an answer everybody can live with afterwards? :) [01:02] could any more experienced packager join the motu meeting for one topc... ? [01:04] Riddell: what changed between hoary and breezy? [01:04] md mdnsresponder is apsl2 [01:05] mdz: as far as I remember amu added depends on kleopatra to kdepim and build-depends on gpgsm for hoary but removed them again before the final hoary === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === WaterSevenUb [user@bl5-52-146.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru_ [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] mdz: you here? [01:21] couldn't parse your unionfs bug [01:22] shaya: yes, I am [01:22] shaya: which part was unclear? [01:22] where it actually oopsed in unionfs code for one [01:23] stand by [01:24] unfortunately I have no way to cut and paste, since it's from a PXE boot of a system with no serial port [01:24] I'll bring up the full trace [01:24] hmm [01:25] it could very well not be oopsing in unionfs code, but that makes it much harder to debug [01:25] shaya: are you saying that the assertion failure is innocuous? [01:25] no [01:25] you didnt post the assertion [01:26] oh [01:26] didnt see that [01:26] woops [01:26] mdz, talking about unionfs... did you know that fabian franz added unionfs support to casper ? [01:26] the subject was a bit mangled because the mailing list rejected it the first time [01:26] niktaris: no, he never sent me any patches [01:27] I have a half-finished implementation in my working directory here [01:27] shaya: EIP is at unionfs_open+0x3507+0x79d1 [01:27] I can point you to a link if you want [01:27] yes [01:27] I see it now [01:27] I don't know why that doesn't show up in the call trace [01:27] mdz: is this repeatable w/ plain nfs and tmpfs and unionsfs? [01:27] i.e. no pxe [01:28] I'll give it a try [01:28] perhaps just set it up plain and chroot into it? [01:28] yep, going to try that [01:28] makes it easier to reproduce [01:28] mdz, http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/skolelive/d-i/ [01:29] there is a casper.diff [01:30] niktaris: it doesn't add unionfs support, so much as replace the existing device-mapper code with unionfs code [01:30] my implementation adds it and allows for the method to be selected at runtime [01:30] but I don't think it will make it into breezy [01:31] mdz: unionfs is still a bit rough around the edges to say the least :) I get stuck from time to time trying to solve bugs just to get my research done [01:32] mdz I tried fabian's capser and it work only the locale didn't seem to go to the system... [01:32] shaya: yes, it's reproducible in a normal setup as well [01:32] shaya: different call trace [01:32] but then, I have no idea what the first call trace looks like in the netboot setup, because I get about 10 in a row [01:33] yea [01:33] mdz: once an assertion is thrown, you are dead [01:33] i.e. I've had it oopse forever on me [01:33] :) [01:33] or at least it seemed like forever until I power cycled the machine to get it to move on [01:34] mdz, changed the initrd. still no go. var/log/syslog says something about the ext2 module missing [01:34] an assertion basically causes it to oops and it can get caught in a chain [01:34] shaya: 1.0.12a had been fairly solid; I encountered a few bugs but nothing which was a showstopper for me [01:35] this latest one has completely killed ltsp development for me [01:35] so why use .13? [01:35] why not stick w/ .12a? [01:36] mdz: other option might be to binary search the snapshots for where the problem was introduced? [01:36] shaya: because I didn't know that .13 was broken until we upgraded to it [01:36] :( [01:36] can't downgrade? [01:37] we certainly could [01:37] mdz: in regards to ltsp stuff, paper my group http://www.ncl.cs.columbia.edu/publications/mobicom2004_fordist.pdf [01:37] it involves a whole new kernel release [01:37] and fabbione is away [01:38] speaking of which, there's no restricted modules yet [01:38] haven't been able to run new kernel b/c of that [01:38] need my atheros [01:39] shaya: I guess you don't read breezy-changes [01:39] there's no more restricted? [01:39] shaya: mdz is the hero of the day. [01:39] oh there is [01:39] today [01:39] shaya: breezy-changes is a mailing list which notifies you of uploads to breezy [01:39] wow [01:39] mdz: aptitude does a good job of that as well :) === mpt [~mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:41] and the package has hit the archives [01:41] yay [01:41] or not [01:41] weird [01:42] seemed like it pulled restriced's packages.gz for a change [01:44] mdz: what I generally like to do when I hit an assertion like that is printk the upper dentry's d_name.name (and perhaps parent as well) to get an idea of what I'm dealing with [01:44] check if the files been deleted (if it's been unhashed) and some other junk [01:44] shaya: it's only there on powerpc at the moment, due to a bug [01:45] hmph [01:45] and here I was getting my hopes up to reboot today [01:45] I just uploaded a fixed version [01:46] do aspell-bin and aspell-en packages not exist anymore? [01:46] weird that the library was rebuilt but not those packages === janimonoses [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:51] good night everybody === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macgyver2 [~eric@macgyver2.user] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === macgyver2_away [~eric@acs-24-154-44-180.zoominternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] shaya: I wonder what it is about my setup which is different; clearly 1.0.13 works for others [01:56] shaya: is it working for you? [01:56] I acutally haven't used it yet [01:56] as in paper mode [01:56] so have a working snapshot that does my needs [01:56] I also use it with GFS [01:57] which brings about its own world of hurt [01:57] it seems to work for me with tmpfs-over-ext3 [01:57] so maybe it's nfs-related [01:57] or unionfs not understanding tmpfs semantics [01:57] I mean nfs [01:57] each fs seems to have their own semantics for different funcitons [01:57] such as d_revalidate [01:58] GFS returns a failure if you try to revalidate a deleted dentry [01:58] though every other fs I tried doesn't seem to care [01:58] there's no good documentation that says what the func is supposed to do === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.203.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:59] mdz: can you recompile unionfs w/ a small patch? [02:00] just wondering what dentry it's failing on [02:00] printk("dentry %s in %s\n", dentry->d_name.name, dentry->d_parent->d_name.name); [02:01] sticking that right before the assertion [02:01] like 438 in commonfops.c [02:01] yeah, I can try that [02:01] then you can try to do some post portum by looking at the underlying FSs and seeing what's there [02:02] mortum [02:02] anyways, off I go for a bit [02:03] shaya: interesting; it produces some warnings (which are turned into errors) with gcc-4.0 [02:03] /home/mdz/src/unionfs-1.0.13/subr.c: In function create_whiteout: [02:03] /home/mdz/src/unionfs-1.0.13/subr.c:51: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of strncat differ in signedness [02:03] /home/mdz/src/unionfs-1.0.13/subr.c: In function unionfs_refresh_hidden_dentry: [02:03] /home/mdz/src/unionfs-1.0.13/subr.c:279: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of lookup_one_len differ in signedness [02:04] mdz, is unionfs separated from the kernel ? i thought it was a module [02:04] ogra: unionfs is a module which is built with the kernel [02:05] mdz, why do you build it with gcc-4.0 then ? the kernel uses 3.4 afaik [02:06] ogra: because gcc-4.0 is the default and I forgot to force it === WaterSevenUb [user@bl5-52-146.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:07] ah, i jus had the case yesterday with ndiswrapper on amd64.... :) (we should add amd64 to the target arches for ndiswrapper btw) [02:09] who handles the white listing for breezy-changes? [02:09] Lathiat, see the Uploads wikipage [02:10] ogra: i did, and i emailed a few days ago and waiting, wondering if i can annoy someone about it [02:10] Lathiat, elmo sits on the other end of this mail adress if it didnt change yet... [02:10] i mean it might have been added silently, i assumed i'd get a reply === ogra cant remember if he got one for whitelisting === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem [~mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:34] am I meant to report breezy goals via bugzilla or malone? [02:34] s/goals/bugs [02:35] malone for universe, bugzilla for main === windex [~windex@dpc674448036.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] <|QuaD-> hmm, my X ALMOST works... it loads the server, just shows jibberish and can't use the keyboard to switch to terminal (though i did change my xorg.config to have kbd) [02:41] I haven't been able to switch to vt terminal for a while [02:41] as well [02:41] so if anyone knows the fix, I'm all ears [02:42] <|QuaD-> shaya: does gnome/kde work for you? [02:42] yes [02:42] me neither, I hadn't notice until you just said then. [02:42] everything works besides switching VTs [02:42] shaya, i dont remember it correctly, but something about installing xkeyboard-config and xkbutils [02:42] <|QuaD-> lexhider: do you have the same problem i do? [02:43] shaya, en_US keyboard ? [02:43] hmm [02:43] how come nothing pulls in xkbutils? [02:43] shaya, lost in transition currently ;) [02:44] <|QuaD-> how do we restart our xserver (or start it) without startx? [02:44] gdm should work... it does here [02:45] |QuaD-: X [02:45] <|QuaD-> ogra: it doesn't here.... i might have fixed it, how do i restart X? [02:45] <|QuaD-> thanks bob2 [02:45] |QuaD-, no, same as shaya, xorg is working for me on breezy [02:46] |QuaD-, X instead of startx? [02:46] or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start [02:49] for "System->LogOut->Hibernate" is the "save current setup" option irrelevant??? [02:49] it doesnt stop your session [02:49] so i would say its irrelevant [02:49] ok, will file bug. [02:50] gee bug reporting is a pain over dialup [02:50] s/bug reporting/& with bugzilla/ [02:52] yes [02:52] with *our* bugzilla [02:53] heh, most places don't have > 1000 products === glyph [foobar@c-24-147-173-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] What is the policy that Canonical has regarding synchronizing bzr with upstream packages? [02:56] the product thing needs to be converted to use ajax :) [02:57] glyph: how do you mean? [02:57] bob2: I mean, I run a few open source projects, several of which Ubuntu synchronizes, and we are attempting to diagnose why one of our SVN repositories has been crashing 3 times a day for the last 2 days [02:58] bob2: one suspect is repository synchronization scripts === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-168-248.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:58] glyph: it's bazaar, not bzr [02:58] and it's not Ubuntu the distro synchronising it :) [02:58] but ok [02:58] try asking in #launchpad [03:01] bob2: thanks [03:01] bob2: the problem here is really that svn's logging is so bad that we can't figure out what's happened locally [03:02] ouch [03:02] it doesn't even log connections? [03:02] glyph: firewall the sync server? ;p [03:07] Currently LeftAlt+Foo does stuff and RightAlt+Foo doesn't. Is this just a breezyXorg is shaky issue or a genuine bug? === jljes [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-65-115.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman_ is now known as GmanAFK [03:17] there was a lot of talk on the ubuntu forums about better autopackage support. I just tested installing newest versions of gaim, gaim-vv and inkscape from autopackages and it worked perfectly and all i had to do was double click, enter root passwd (no sudo support that i'm aware of) and let it install. Any clue what these people were talking about? === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] anyone know why synaptic shows the ubuntu icon next to backports packages? i would imagine this isnt' expected behavior as the ubuntu icon should only be for officially supported packages in main & restricted [03:25] jasoncohen, file a bug, i think synaptic just isnt adjusted to the new situation yet [03:25] ok === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.208.49] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.208.49] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === aeddan [~aeddan@203.39.89.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.208.49] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:45] daniels: Currently LeftAlt+Foo does stuff and RightAlt+Foo doesn't. Is this just a breezyXorg is shaky issue or a genuine bug? [03:48] lexhider: to some degree, probably a genuine bug. which layout are you using? [03:49] daniels, any idea when xorg 7 beta will enter breezy... and any idea of when glx (glx gears/etc) will enter? [03:49] i've got people wondering on AIM [03:49] glxgears is useless. [03:49] tseng: whys that? [03:49] glx in general [03:49] so people can play games/use gl stuff [03:49] daniels, pc105 setup as dvorak, kb is Microsoft natural [03:50] Lathiat: it has no practical value [03:50] it shows if GLX is working [03:50] anyway [03:50] its in the same class as kde-mr-potato-head [03:51] instead of saying glxgears is useless, what about my release date question === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:52] isn't it a little late to be moving to a new major entirely repackaged version of X? [03:53] we still have 3 months, I have true faith in the X team [03:53] :-) [03:53] OddAbe19: err, no [03:57] Lathiat: hm bruce perens is into the Rails scene now [04:00] OddAbe19: a) it's already there for the most part, b) gl support is totally complete. glxgears and glxinfo aren't in because I'm incredibly spiteful. [04:00] OddAbe19: but you can play all the actual GL games you want. [04:01] lexhider: um, dude, you said pc105 [04:01] lexhider: pc105 -> right alt used as level3 [04:01] cool [04:01] thanks === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] lexhider: if you want right alt as alt, use pc104 [04:01] daniels, I'm a bit clueless on this stuff, is that the righ answer. [04:01] lexhider: (and edit /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us and remove the include(ralt_level3_multikey) line) [04:01] lexhider: yes [04:02] daniels, ok, is it a bug that pc105 was setup by default instead of pc104? s/pc104/pc105 in xorg.conf? [04:04] lexhider: did you select the 'dvorak' layout? [04:04] yep [04:09] daniels, no ralt_level3_multikey in us file. === GmanAFK is now known as Gman_ [04:10] include "level3(ralt_switch)" [04:12] daniels, all 3 instances? === jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-25-170.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:12] lexhider: only the one in dvorak [04:13] ok [04:14] restarting X back in a minute === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.208.49] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:20] daniels: did s/pc104/pc105 in xorg.conf and removed that line from /blah/blah/us, on gnome login given error dialog about XKB configuration, and another dialog to choose whether to use X or gnome keyboard settings [04:22] lexhider: did you choose X? [04:23] daniels: I haven't done either yet [04:27] choose X [04:28] daniels, ok, RightAlt+Foo still not doing anything. [04:33] lexhider: cool [04:34] daniels, cool? === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crimsun [~crimsun@sh.nu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:07] mdz: champion [05:22] mdz : Would it be okay to sync devscripts so we can get a debdiff that actually works with the new dpkg-dev? [05:31] infinity: yes === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.146.166] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:52] Hrm, I could be on crack, but I could have sworn I saw a thread on ubuntu-devel a while back about people's X cursors getting messed up. Can't for the life of me find it now, and a freshly upgraded breezy machine is displaying the problem. [05:53] Maybe it was in the channel.. === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:03] infinity: libxcursor-dev [06:03] infinity: install that and cursors work again [06:03] mdz: I found what's causing your bug :) [06:04] Amaranth : [06:06] unsure how to fix it, but at least found it :) [06:06] Oh, man, that is wrong on so many levels. [06:06] infinity: this is called a bug :) [06:06] That means something is loading libXcursor.so? [06:06] [06:07] KILL IT [06:08] woo [06:08] my panel doesn't crash anymore and it updates correctly [06:08] mine doesn't [06:08] latest gamin and gnome-menus? [06:09] yep [06:09] have you logged out since upgrading? [06:09] no [06:09] when i killed gamin and the panel to get them to reload it started crashing [06:09] i rebooted into windows and now back, works perfectly [06:13] working sweet here also. [06:39] jdub, fridge? is it unplugged?\ [06:42] infinity: right, that'd be libX11 being shit === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:43] remind me to look at it when I have more than 3% battery === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.208.49] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:39] daniels : Do you have more than 3% battery now, huh, huh? === sivang_ [sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:41] MOrning all [07:42] morning, sivang [07:43] highvoltage: High Jono, how's the desktop hacks coming? [07:43] s/High/hi [07:44] daniels : Care to lay the smack down on bug 13162, since it's something you feel so strongly about? [07:44] highvoltage: oops, I confused you with someone else I think === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:46] daniels : Oh, nevermind, I'm SO behind the times, you already closed it. [07:48] sivang: it depends :) [07:50] sivang: i'm doing a bit of stuff for edubuntu, but i think you might have confused me with jonathan riddel? [07:53] highvoltage: Hmm, no, I confused you with someone called Jono Bacon , he's an author === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:08] infinity: no, because I have no idea where my charger is. i already told you this. :P [08:08] infinity: must be in one of the seven or so blue bags, I figure. [08:09] ugh gnome-panel is crashign when application files get added === pef [~loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] hello [08:15] daniels, would you mind setting the record straight on this thread? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54249 [08:17] Burgundavia: the server hasn't been moved over to the modular kit yet, hence no exa. that'll happen sometime this month. [08:17] ok [08:18] thanks === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:25] daniels, the other question that I know will come up on the forums is binary drivers. Will those break with modular? [08:26] Burgundavia: nvidia no, ati yes [08:26] rofl [08:26] ok [08:26] Burgundavia: iirc ati haven't yet released a fglrx that works with the libdl-based loader [08:26] (aka 'dlloader') [08:27] bah who cares about ati === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:28] evidently not trolls [08:28] thanks again === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-169-90.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:28] I have informed the forums [08:28] np === glyph [foobar@c-24-147-173-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Abandonando"] === carlospc [~carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] So what happens if ATI doesn't release a new driver before october? === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-108-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmorph [~Kmorph@80-247-147-209.reverse.newskies.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === m0ns00n [~hogne@212.33.152.198] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:01] Hello === herzi [~herzi@c183040.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:13] does anybody know what's the probability of lossing data when resizing and ext3 partition? [09:14] ogra: is parted stable enough? [09:15] sivang: depends on lots of things [09:16] sivang: (mountedness at resize-time being one..) [09:16] you should have backups, even if you're not poking your partition table [09:16] so use your fear of resizing asa good excuse to backup now [09:21] so.. is it possible to get xine to play mp3s? [09:22] Lathiat: yes [09:22] sladen: how? [09:22] xine *.mp3 [09:22] thanks you were so helpfull [09:22] Lathiat: what are you not seeing working? [09:22] sladen: totem-xine doesnt recognise it [09:23] i assume it was ripped out [09:23] it's a bad mp3 file? [09:23] "there is no plugin to handle this movie" [09:23] Amaranth: nope, no mp3s will play [09:23] err [09:23] afaik xine isn't moving to main, i don't think anything got removed from it [09:23] hrm [09:24] it used to work [09:24] i think it just hasnt worked since i reinstaslled [09:24] hrm, why does rhythmbxo depend on totem? [09:25] afaik it should only depend on the playlist parser [09:25] but maybe it uses totem to play things now :P [09:25] thats what i thought === sladen hunts [09:25] Amaranth: ffs, you seein ggnome panel crash everytime the applications directory changes? [09:25] everytime i install a package now it dies [09:25] Lathiat: i was until i restarted [09:26] hrm maybe i need to restart [09:26] logging out might work too === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:26] as long as gnome-panel and gam_server stop completely it should come back on fine === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:26] i usually logout and then drop to a console and pkill -u lathiat [09:26] of course, my ctrl+alt+f1 isnt working atm [09:27] [pid 798] open("/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/xineplug_decode_mad.so", O_RDONLY) = 16 [09:27] anyone else have that problem? [09:27] sladen: do you have the problem that it wont play them? [09:27] Lathiat: nope, try reinstalling xkbutils and/or xkeyboard-config === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:27] libxine1: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/xineplug_decode_mad.so [09:28] Lathiat: no. They've always ''just worked'' for me. [09:28] hrm [09:28] i have that file, fo r1.0.1 tho [09:28] have i picked up som eevil backport or something somehow [09:29] probably not. Admittedly I'm looking from a Debian install [09:29] ah right [09:29] thats not goign to help much. :) [09:29] Amaranth: hrm, xkbutils isnt installed === Amaranth passes out === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [~loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Natja is away: Pas l, pas loin === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:45] Good morning === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-3-75.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] hi pitti. good morning seb128 [09:47] Hi seb128 [09:47] hey siretart pitti [09:48] fabionne working on holidays? ;) [09:50] hey seb128 , pitti , siretart [09:50] hi sivang [09:51] bob2 : right, I should [09:51] seb128: gnome-panel still crash for you? [09:52] yep [09:52] not for you? [09:52] nope [09:52] after i restarted it all started working perfectly [09:56] weird [09:56] upstream has fixed it anyway [09:58] heh, bug #? [09:58] i couldn't find it === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] seb128: btw, what ever happened to bug 310270? you found the problem and proposed a solution, seems to have been ignored [10:00] i have to manually set my wireless channel each time I boot. is this a bug? === Natja is back (gone 00:23:12) [10:03] mdke: ipw2?00? [10:04] bob2, the driver is acx_pci [10:04] it doesn't associate unless it set the channel by hand [10:04] it/I [10:05] ah === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:08] i think that is worth a bug report [10:09] yeh thats a bug [10:11] Amaranth: federico has some other stuff to do for work atm, but he said he will reply on that but not before thursday [10:11] today or next week? 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