| ajmitch | hard choices, should I do simple-patchsys or dpatch for this package? :) | 12:22 |
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| mbreit | ajmitch: i would say, if you use cdbs use the first.. if not, use dpatch... | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | well I'd rather not use a patch system at all & convert all these packages to baz archives | 12:23 |
| crimsun | I'd use simple-patchsys only because I'm used to it, but cdbs is fair game. | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | but that will take a bit longer to setup | 12:24 |
| janimonoses | hey crimsun | 12:28 |
| janimonoses | so far I only closed the MOM bugs | 12:29 |
| janimonoses | some more xfce packages built after the clean sync but many didn't still | 12:29 |
| janimonoses | I am looking at weird build failures | 12:29 |
| ajmitch | please | 12:37 |
| crimsun | janimonoses: ok. | 12:53 |
| crimsun | I'm looking at xfce-mcs-manager now. | 12:53 |
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| janimonoses | crimsun, I think I saw similar pkg-config errors in hoary but I don't know in which package and more importantly how did the problem go away :) | 12:58 |
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| crimsun | janimonoses: hard-wired configure.ac, mostly | 01:03 |
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| dholbach | mdz: we're meeting in #ubuntu-meeting - if you wanted to join us | 01:05 |
| ogra | yay mdz | 01:05 |
| dholbach | mdz: point 5 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting | 01:05 |
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| ogra | we're discussing config{sub,guess} handling in the pacjage | 01:05 |
| ogra | by default dh_make places the copying in the clean target, that means i clutter my diff.gz totally... whats the rationale for that | 01:06 |
| ogra | ? | 01:06 |
| ogra | grmpf... talking to myself here | 01:07 |
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| bddebian | ogra: :-) | 01:09 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, well, tuxtype has legal issues as well | 01:11 |
| ogra | hrmpf | 01:11 |
| Burgundavia | but a new upstream, not yet in debian might solve it | 01:12 |
| Burgundavia | see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=218908 | 01:12 |
| Burgundavia | without that new upstream version, I don't see pitti approving it | 01:13 |
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| Burgundavia | ogra, can you help me with FHS and Debian Policy stuff? | 01:17 |
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| ajmitch | what FHSisms are at issue? | 01:17 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, no, just checking that packages meet those | 01:17 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, sure... but currently i'm in motu meeting... and if the packages come from deban we dont need to care about FHS i think | 01:18 |
| Burgundavia | I honestly have no idea where to start looking | 01:18 |
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| Burgundavia | ogra, can I assume all debian packages meet both, or there would be bugs about it? | 01:18 |
| ogra | yep the latter | 01:19 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 01:19 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, we have to move an entire source package, no? | 01:23 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, either that, or modify and split the binary targets that get built from it | 01:24 |
| Burgundavia | this is one of those huge kde packages | 01:25 |
| Burgundavia | kdeedu | 01:25 |
| ogra | do we need that ? i thought we only need pieces... | 01:30 |
| Burgundavia | we need all but about 3 parts | 01:31 |
| Burgundavia | the japanese lang stuff | 01:32 |
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| Burgundavia | ogra, shall we just pull in the remain few things? | 01:35 |
| ogra | hmm, can we postpone that decision ? i' currently in the mou meeting and working since 16h or more... | 01:36 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, ok | 01:36 |
| Burgundavia | shall I email edubuntu-devel about it? | 01:36 |
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| dholbach | good night everybody | 01:51 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, probaly good as a reminder | 01:55 |
| comadreja | ogra: I have some minor problems, do you have a bit of time for me ? | 01:55 |
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| comadreja | ogra: or maybe refer me to somebody else I could ask for help... | 01:55 |
| === ogra doesnt know who's awake now... | ||
| ogra | what is it comadreja ? | 01:56 |
| comadreja | launchpad doesn't let me join the team moto and motuim | 01:56 |
| comadreja | and I haven't received yet acknowledge for my key, CoC signature | 01:57 |
| ogra | comadreja, someone has to add you | 01:57 |
| comadreja | it doesn't let me even be a proposed member | 01:57 |
| ogra | mako was travelling, he just arrived home... give him some time to catch up with mails and poke him online | 01:58 |
| comadreja | oh, I see, could you add me to the motu team ? | 01:58 |
| === ajmitch still isn't in the ubuntu members group :) | ||
| ogra | comadreja, you launchpad name ? | 02:00 |
| ogra | your | 02:00 |
| === ajmitch will bbl | ||
| comadreja | ogra, jorge-drqueue ? | 02:01 |
| ogra | jorge@drqueue.org ? | 02:02 |
| comadreja | yes | 02:02 |
| ogra | added | 02:02 |
| comadreja | thanks !! | 02:02 |
| comadreja | you rock :D | 02:02 |
| ogra | its two clicks ;) | 02:03 |
| comadreja | hey why is everybody administrator and me only approved ? :D | 02:04 |
| ogra | changed, sorry :) | 02:04 |
| comadreja | just kidding, I thought it was right :) | 02:04 |
| ogra | every approved member should be able to change stuff for motu ;) | 02:05 |
| comadreja | oh, I see | 02:06 |
| mbreit | i will go to bed now, too... | 02:10 |
| mbreit | good night everybody! | 02:10 |
| comadreja | nite mbreit | 02:10 |
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| robitaille | ~/quit | 02:28 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, I will email edubuntu-devel. I should also be able to have most of the reports finished tonight | 02:30 |
| ogra | wow | 02:30 |
| ogra | Burgundavia, you rock !! | 02:31 |
| Burgundavia | it just means I have to knuckle down | 02:31 |
| Burgundavia | making the reports is quite tedious | 02:31 |
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| ogra | yes, but there are some heavy things in the list.. i'll have to add a lot later and ahve to change several dependencys of the packages | 02:32 |
| Burgundavia | the servers apps I would like you to do | 02:33 |
| Burgundavia | I don't trust that I have the right knowledge | 02:33 |
| ogra | sure, no prob... especially since we dont know yet if we go with php4 or 5 | 02:33 |
| ogra | i have to rebuild and test the packages first | 02:33 |
| Burgundavia | the desktop stuff is pretty easy and I haven' | 02:34 |
| ogra | but currently my nightmare has the name gcompris... it wont compile with gcc-4.0 | 02:34 |
| Burgundavia | the kdeedu stuff is going to be easy | 02:34 |
| Burgundavia | I don't anticipate any problems there | 02:35 |
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| tseng | hi | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | ogra: do you know if gcompris FTBFS in sid as well? I don't see the bugreport there | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | how's it going, tseng ? | 03:17 |
| tseng | meh | 03:18 |
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| ajmitch | one of those weeks? | 03:18 |
| ogra | ajmitch, nope, but on all gcc-4.0 based distros | 03:18 |
| ogra | cvs works fine here, i'll fix our package tomorrow | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | ogra: ok, I guess someone is yet to file a sid bug (hint, hint) *g* | 03:19 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i'll do this as well, but i cant wait anymore for debian... | 03:19 |
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| ogra | *g* | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | ogra: I know, I don't want to put any more pressure on you | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: whyever not? | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | summaries of meetings is nice & easy :) | 03:20 |
| ogra | ajmitch, i work better under pressure ;) | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | so do I, funnily enough | 03:21 |
| ogra | but the only thing that is able to give me pressure is a calendar :) | 03:21 |
| === ajmitch has the client coming in tomorrow at some point to get a demo | ||
| ajmitch | of course I only found out about it yesterday ;) | 03:22 |
| ogra | fun :) | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | sure is | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | not as fun as fixing unmet deps though | 03:23 |
| bddebian | Heh | 03:24 |
| bddebian | OK, ice cream time, later gang | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | bye bddebian | 03:24 |
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| ajmitch | if I touch it & don't file a debian bug, doko would hunt me down ;) | 03:27 |
| ogra | ciao bddebian | 03:27 |
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| Burgundavia | ogra, you are aware that audacity is still borked on breezy | 05:45 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: how so? | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | please give some details of how I broke it, please :) | 05:48 |
| bddebian | eh | 05:48 |
| bddebian | Err heh even | 05:48 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, cannot find default sound device | 05:48 |
| crimsun | even if /dev/dsp is free? | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | bloody hell, malone is borked right now | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | ok.. | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | it might just be my system | 05:49 |
| robitaille | Burgundavia: Malone seems to work for me | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | I type is the search bar and go here | 05:49 |
| robitaille | I was looking at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/337 | 05:50 |
| Burgundavia | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ | 05:50 |
| === ajmitch is at work right now, can't check audacity | ||
| robitaille | Burgundavia: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ works for me... | 05:50 |
| Burgundavia | yes, but I don't go to that page | 05:50 |
| Burgundavia | my url stays the search one | 05:51 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, you are doing alsa stuff no? | 05:51 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: nope, crimsun is | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 05:52 |
| ajmitch | I try & ignore the details of sound stuff as much as possible :) | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | crimsun, are we waiting on a sync from debian with alsa? | 05:53 |
| === ajmitch can't believe that someone would set sb16 detection as major severity, high priority :) | ||
| crimsun | Burgundavia: which source package? | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | considering that they don't even use ubuntu1 | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: look at malone #407 & lart them :) | 05:53 |
| Burgundavia | crimsun, -base and -utils | 05:54 |
| Burgundavia | sorry, -driver | 05:54 |
| crimsun | Burgundavia: perhaps 4 | 05:55 |
| crimsun | (-4) | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 05:55 |
| robitaille | ajmitch: well...if you can't listen to your mp3s on your sb16 card, that's a real emergency :) | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | robitaille: I've still got an sb16pnp in a breezy box here :) | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | I can't remember the last time it actually worked | 05:59 |
| crimsun | snd-sb16 should work fine with it if it's a genuine SB16 PNP | 06:00 |
| bddebian | Gnight gang | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: sure, but my card is probably dead | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | isa deserves to be relegated to the history books :) | 06:07 |
| chillywilly | barry is a wimp | 06:29 |
| chillywilly | :) | 06:30 |
| chillywilly | who the hell needs sleep anyway? | 06:30 |
| ajmitch | I don't see you volunteering to help out with everything ;) | 06:33 |
| chillywilly | I attempted to build some packages that had unmet deps but this guy ajmitch took away all my fun :) | 06:36 |
| ajmitch | that's what I'm here for | 06:37 |
| === chillywilly is actually screwing around with M$ Project...boy is this fun... | ||
| Burgundavia | chillywilly, you tried planner? | 06:40 |
| chillywilly | wassat? ;) | 06:41 |
| chillywilly | oh, project replacement | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | pretty much dead | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | needs someone who likes to hack something like that | 06:42 |
| chillywilly | I'd rather have something web based | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | which is pretty much nobody | 06:42 |
| chillywilly | dotproject looked promising | 06:42 |
| chillywilly | but I figure I will just learn stinking M$ Project for now and then find something web based later on | 06:43 |
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| dabaR | Hi. Is there a bum package for ubuntu anywhere? | 08:06 |
| Burgundavia | dabaR, just got synced | 08:07 |
| dabaR | was that mean? | 08:08 |
| dabaR | haha | 08:09 |
| dabaR | that did not mean what I meant. | 08:09 |
| ajmitch | he means 'yes' | 08:09 |
| dabaR | What do you mean synced? | 08:09 |
| dabaR | ok, coolness. | 08:09 |
| dabaR | so, in one of the repos for hoary? | 08:09 |
| ajmitch | probably breezy | 08:09 |
| ajmitch | it would only be in hoary if it were backported | 08:10 |
| dabaR | hm...so should one isntall it onto hoary, what is your estimate? | 08:10 |
| Lathiat | dabaR: it wont happen unless someone begs for it to go into backports, and assuming it can easily go into backports | 08:10 |
| dabaR | so not just install the breezy version onto hoary? | 08:11 |
| ajmitch | it's often not a good idea | 08:12 |
| dabaR | so, yall been warned type of deal...ok, thank you guys. | 08:13 |
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| Burgundavia | Natja, please turn that off | 09:37 |
| chillywilly | hmmm, MS Project must die | 09:40 |
| siretart | morning, folks | 09:47 |
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| Amaranth | Natja: Please turn that off. | 10:01 |
| Burgundavia | hmm --> http://users.on.net/~spohlenz/ubuntu/ | 10:06 |
| siretart | Burgundavia: what is with that? | 10:10 |
| Burgundavia | basic little tool to install ndiswrapper stuff, graphically | 10:10 |
| siretart | cool | 10:10 |
| Burgundavia | there are even sources there | 10:11 |
| Burgundavia | I have asked the author to come here | 10:11 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=286024&posted=1#post286024 | 10:11 |
| siretart | I don't use ndiswrapper, but he is welcome to upload that package to revu | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 10:12 |
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| Burgundavia | that ndiswrapper thing is even written in python | 10:17 |
| siretart | cool | 10:18 |
| Burgundavia | the UI cannot be simpler | 10:18 |
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| Burgundavia | siretart, http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndisgtk0zc.png | 10:21 |
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| siretart | looking nice, indeed | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | this one we might want to push into main | 10:24 |
| niran | it's another summer of code project: http://spohlenz.blogspot.com/ | 10:26 |
| Burgundavia | oh | 10:26 |
| Burgundavia | didn't know that | 10:26 |
| Burgundavia | that is why it is written in python | 10:27 |
| niran | it's for this spec: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalConfigTools | 10:29 |
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| Burgundavia | given that all the ones on that page got done by gnome in .12, I wondered what they would do | 10:30 |
| tamir | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 275364547 | 10:30 |
| Burgundavia | tamir, oops | 10:30 |
| Burgundavia | tamir, you know that xchat can autoidentify for you? | 10:30 |
| tamir | damit | 10:31 |
| tamir | oh doesn't matter, I don't care of this | 10:31 |
| Burgundavia | I find it interesting who is fetching that atheros project stuff | 10:33 |
| siretart | do you mean madwifi? | 10:37 |
| siretart | who is caring for this? | 10:37 |
| Burgundavia | no | 10:38 |
| Burgundavia | fedora got a soc to reverse engineer the atheros driver | 10:38 |
| Burgundavia | http://computer-lab.blogspot.com/ | 10:38 |
| Burgundavia | fedora and ubuntu both got bounties to write simple backup things. Both to be written in python | 10:39 |
| niran | i could search... but where are the fedora bounties? | 10:41 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBounties | 10:42 |
| niran | thanks | 10:42 |
| Burgundavia | I really hope in the next month we get a flood of releasing stuff | 10:43 |
| Burgundavia | because it is all quiet on the western front with some people | 10:43 |
| niran | yeah, there's a few of the ubuntu bounties that i havent heard anything about | 10:43 |
| Burgundavia | one has already been dropped | 10:44 |
| Burgundavia | the xen stuff | 10:44 |
| niran | yeah, i saw that | 10:44 |
| niran | i don't know how many of them realize that the projects are supposed to be finished by feature freeze | 10:45 |
| niran | i.e. one week | 10:45 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 10:45 |
| Burgundavia | features after feature freeze make the doc team hunt you down and kill you | 10:46 |
| niran | exactly | 10:46 |
| niran | i'd like to live | 10:46 |
| niran | there are still a couple of big things i need to do in the next week | 10:46 |
| niran | it should be interesting | 10:46 |
| niran | and next week is my physics final | 10:46 |
| niran | fun. | 10:46 |
| siretart | what?! | 10:47 |
| siretart | xen has been dropped?! why that? | 10:47 |
| niran | the bounty reciever never replied | 10:47 |
| Treenaks | that, and the hype has died down | 10:47 |
| siretart | :( | 10:48 |
| siretart | is there some mail about that decision? or blog entry? | 10:48 |
| niran | hm... i thought the breezygoals page said it, but now it says it's assigned | 10:48 |
| niran | did someone else get it afterwards? | 10:49 |
| Burgundavia | deferred | 10:49 |
| niran | ah, it's here: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties | 10:49 |
| siretart | err, I thought ed despard was working on this | 10:49 |
| siretart | he wrote this in a mail to ubuntu-devel on Jul 5 | 10:50 |
| niran | ah, i see the mail | 10:51 |
| niran | maybe it will actually happen | 10:51 |
| Burgundavia | all the google stuff I want to see happen, but your stuff niran was probably the best | 10:53 |
| niran | :) that's why i picked it | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | I am glad you have not gone awol | 10:54 |
| niran | i think it'll really nelp new users that are used to the windows way to install programs | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | synaptic + my step-mother = evil | 10:54 |
| niran | haha | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | let alone CLI stuff | 10:55 |
| niran | i think what really helps in terms of the bounties is that i was already around the community beforehand, so i kind of knew how things worked | 10:55 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 10:55 |
| Burgundavia | dropping in and starting something like g-a-i is hard | 10:55 |
| niran | i still had to spend lots of time learning random things | 10:56 |
| niran | it's my first real pygtk program | 10:56 |
| niran | plus, it's using libraries with no documentation | 10:57 |
| niran | fun. | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | when does google want the project to be done by? | 10:57 |
| niran | sept 1 | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | and who upchecks you? | 10:57 |
| niran | our mentor | 10:57 |
| niran | for me, mvo | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | is the plan to make g-a-i agnostic of dpkg and push it upstream? | 10:59 |
| niran | ultimately, sure | 11:01 |
| niran | if fedora or someone shows interest, i'll try to abstract away the apt-isms | 11:01 |
| niran | but for now it's not worth it | 11:01 |
| Burgundavia | ya | 11:01 |
| niran | what i'm more concerned about is making it easy for someone to do a kde port | 11:02 |
| niran | but... it's tied pretty closely to the gui, so it'd take a lot of new code | 11:02 |
| niran | one gtk program won't hurt kubuntu people | 11:02 |
| Lathiat | ITS MURDER | 11:03 |
| koke | niran: BTW, if you want to look at my old notes about FindingPackages http://wiki.amedias.org/wk/FindingPackages | 11:03 |
| niran | koke, cool, thanks | 11:03 |
| niran | Lathiat, you'll live :) | 11:03 |
| koke | I've just seen rrdtool binary is in universe but source is in main | 11:04 |
| koke | is it normal? have I missed a layout change? :) | 11:04 |
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| Burgundavia | night | 11:59 |
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| herve | hello | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | hey herve | 02:07 |
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| \sh | hey herve | 02:07 |
| \sh | tseng: what must I read now on p.u.c? u had a surgery? | 02:07 |
| ajmitch | \sh! | 02:07 |
| tseng | \sh: i did. | 02:08 |
| tseng | yesterday | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | must have been fun | 02:08 |
| tseng | much better now | 02:08 |
| \sh | tseng: I hope nothing serious....a new arm or something for faster typing? | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | recovering ok then? | 02:08 |
| tseng | yep | 02:08 |
| tseng | \sh: i am the 6 million dollar man | 02:08 |
| tseng | \sh: no.. read the post before | 02:08 |
| \sh | tseng: ay...this is not good.. | 02:10 |
| ajmitch | no, it's obvious he needs motu work to keep his mind off things | 02:11 |
| \sh | i believe it came with the mono work...MS stuff is not healthy at all...try to work on python stuff, tseng, or perl, and everything will be fine | 02:12 |
| tseng | i am not that interested in mono in and of itself, believe it or not | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | mainly in the apps? | 02:13 |
| Treenaks | tseng: so you're not Miguel's clone? | 02:13 |
| tseng | its the apps that run on mono that i am in love with | 02:13 |
| tseng | Treenaks: no. | 02:13 |
| \sh | tseng: as your doc I will give you the advise..leave mono for a while and concentrate on soft stuff like python or perl ,-) | 02:14 |
| tseng | haha | 02:14 |
| tseng | i do tcl and php at work | 02:14 |
| ajmitch | miguel can be quite entertaining | 02:14 |
| tseng | ajmitch++ | 02:14 |
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| tseng | bradb: yo yo | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | how's the launchpad sprint going/gone in .br? | 02:19 |
| bradb | hey tseng, how's it going? | 02:19 |
| tseng | bradb: not too bad, yourself? | 02:19 |
| bradb | good thanks. busy spec'ing in brazil. | 02:20 |
| tseng | yeah, brazil :) | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | great, malone is looking better these days :) | 02:21 |
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| CarlFK | how do I tell what libavifile-0.7-dev depends on? | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | apt-cache depends libavifile-0.7-dev | 02:45 |
| CarlFK | thanks | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | and grep-dctrl tells me that only drip & dvr build-depend on it | 02:47 |
| CarlFK | transcode apparently does | 02:48 |
| CarlFK | but libavifile-0.7-dev wont install | 02:48 |
| CarlFK | libavifile-0.7-dev: Conflicts: libavifile-0.7 but 1:0.7.43.20050224-1ubuntu4 is to be installed | 02:48 |
| ajmitch | right, I just checked universe, not multiverse :) | 02:49 |
| ajmitch | perhaps it's a package that hasn't progressed through NEW due to a c++ transition or similar? | 02:50 |
| ajmitch | or I think the depends/conflicts is a mess | 02:51 |
| CarlFK | should I post this to the -devel list? | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | possibly, I'm not sure if anyone plans to fix it there | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | since it's a universe issue | 02:54 |
| CarlFK | ah | 02:54 |
| CarlFK | so where? | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | file bugs in malone | 02:54 |
| CarlFK | I have heard of that... where is it? | 02:55 |
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| ajmitch | launchpad.net/malone | 02:55 |
| CarlFK | thanks | 02:56 |
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| CarlFK | so do I register libavifile as a product? | 03:06 |
| tseng | no | 03:06 |
| tseng | oh wow @ new malone page | 03:07 |
| tseng | CarlFK: File bug on a package | 03:07 |
| CarlFK | which package? | 03:07 |
| tseng | libavifile? | 03:07 |
| CarlFK | ah - i see package now | 03:08 |
| tseng | bradb: i am loving malone. | 03:08 |
| CarlFK | how do I search for libavifile? | 03:09 |
| tseng | view ubuntu bugs | 03:10 |
| tseng | on the front page | 03:10 |
| bradb | tseng: really, that's good to hear | 03:12 |
| bradb | tseng: have you noticed significant improvements of late? | 03:12 |
| tseng | it looks like you fixed alot of my problems | 03:12 |
| tseng | bradb: im just now seeing the new updates, i must have not been on the page for awhile | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | yeah, malone is certainly more usable now | 03:13 |
| tseng | but oh | 03:13 |
| tseng | i got some malone spam | 03:13 |
| tseng | should i fwd to you | 03:13 |
| ogra | bradb, hey... have a look at | 03:13 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/768 | 03:13 |
| ogra | ... any chance to avoid autoresponder spam from users ? | 03:13 |
| tseng | ah, right | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | because we get that spam now that the bugs are assigned to us | 03:14 |
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| ajmitch | that's what we had to ask about - getting a mailing list subscribed instead of all the MOTU team | 03:14 |
| ogra | the bugsummary is worth making a poster of it :) | 03:15 |
| tseng | what about an alias | 03:15 |
| tseng | rather than a list | 03:15 |
| ogra | 2.0.1-7ubuntu2 fubar, rebuilt 2.0.4-1 from Debian Testing fine | 03:15 |
| bradb | sorry guys, getting kind of distracted over here in .br. in the middle of writing Malone specs. | 03:15 |
| bradb | next landing is a CVE report for the distribution | 03:15 |
| tseng | thats what gentoo does, as \sh is so fond of pointing out :P | 03:15 |
| bradb | by tomorrowish, we should have landed the source package bugs listing | 03:16 |
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| ajmitch | sweet | 03:16 |
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| CarlFK | shouldn't "source package name" be libavifile-0.7-dev or something similar? | 03:21 |
| mbreit | source package name of libavifile is "avifile" | 03:23 |
| mbreit | see apt-cache show libavifile-0.7-dev | 03:23 |
| CarlFK | thanks | 03:23 |
| mbreit | btw: could someone please review my gnomeradio package? | 03:24 |
| mbreit | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=292 | 03:24 |
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| ajmitch | should I bother to fix the speedtouch package? since apparantly it isn't needed for kernels >= 2.6.10 | 03:39 |
| === ajmitch uses it on a sarge box downstairs.. | ||
| tseng | sounds like a -devel list question | 03:39 |
| havoc | what is speedtouch? | 03:39 |
| tseng | see if anyone stil has a need | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | havoc: dsl modem driver | 03:40 |
| havoc | ah | 03:40 |
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| ajmitch | there's a kernel driver, and 2.6.10 has it's own firmware loader that this package supplied | 03:40 |
| havoc | DSL sucks | 03:42 |
| havoc | at least SBC's DSL sucks | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | so does everything else, but DSL just sucks less | 03:43 |
| havoc | SBC's is pretty bad as far as reliability goes | 03:43 |
| havoc | I have many clients who have no other option other than SBC DSL and it is nothing but problems | 03:43 |
| havoc | most of the issues related to PPPoE | 03:44 |
| === ajmitch has no option but dsl | ||
| ajmitch | and there's only 1 dsl provider here | 03:44 |
| havoc | or rather their implementation of PPPoE | 03:44 |
| havoc | ajmitch: SBC? | 03:44 |
| tseng | you guys dont do cable? | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | no... | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | this is new zealand, why would we have SBC? :) | 03:44 |
| havoc | ajmitch: duh, I forgot :) | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | there is cable in only a couple of areas in NZ | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | but telecom NZ has the DSL monopoly | 03:45 |
| highvoltage | hi guys | 03:45 |
| zul | powered by sheep? | 03:45 |
| tseng | is this "the" jono? | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | no, hot air piped in from parliament :P | 03:45 |
| zul | hehe | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | looks like backports mono is failing on the buildd due to build-deps | 03:47 |
| tseng | which? | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | 36 cli-common: Depends: mono-utils but it is not installable or | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | 37cil-disassembler but it is not installable | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | just the usual | 03:48 |
| tseng | oh right.. | 03:48 |
| tseng | buh | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | that's why I specified backports before getting you worried | 03:48 |
| tseng | yes i forgot to tell them to bootstrap it | 03:48 |
| highvoltage | tseng: what do you mean by "the" jono? | 03:49 |
| tseng | ill get Mez up to speed when im not hopped up on drugs | 03:49 |
| tseng | highvoltage: jono bacon | 03:49 |
| highvoltage | oh, no. | 03:49 |
| highvoltage | my name is jonathan :) | 03:49 |
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| tseng | heh. | 03:51 |
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| \sh | going home...later dudes | 04:00 |
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| Mez | ajmitch, mono failing on buildd? tseng told me it built fine | 04:20 |
| tseng | Mez: you need to cut build-deps to start | 04:21 |
| tseng | its funny | 04:21 |
| tseng | we can talk about it later | 04:21 |
| Mez | ?? | 04:21 |
| tseng | ?? | 04:21 |
| tseng | its a bootstrap dude | 04:22 |
| tseng | mono build-dep cli common, cli-common dep mono | 04:22 |
| tseng | you have to work around first upload | 04:22 |
| Mez | ah fair enough | 04:22 |
| tseng | we'll talk later | 04:22 |
| Mez | tseng: fair enough - you'll have to poke me and stuff | 04:22 |
| Mez | I cant see it failing though | 04:22 |
| tseng | yep | 04:22 |
| tseng | aj says it is | 04:23 |
| tseng | i believe everything he says. | 04:23 |
| Mez | ah yes it is | 04:23 |
| Mez | but cli-common is building ok | 04:24 |
| Mez | well, i386 is anyways | 04:24 |
| tseng | yes but its uninstallable | 04:24 |
| tseng | is the point | 04:24 |
| Mez | ah, yes :D I see what you mean now | 04:24 |
| Mez | file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html | 04:25 |
| Mez | grr | 04:26 |
| Mez | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 04:26 |
| Mez | cli-common: Depends: mono-utils but it is not installable or | 04:26 |
| Mez | cil-disassembler but it is not installable | 04:26 |
| Mez | Depends: mono-mcs but it is not installable or | 04:26 |
| Mez | strong-name-tool but it is not installable | 04:26 |
| Mez | E: Broken packages | 04:26 |
| tseng | yes | 04:26 |
| tseng | so the deal is | 04:26 |
| tseng | oh wow | 04:26 |
| tseng | how are we going to do this | 04:26 |
| tseng | if everything has to be pulled from breezy | 04:26 |
| Mez | tseng: how did you get it to build for hoary? | 04:27 |
| tseng | hoary was totally different | 04:27 |
| tseng | and much worse | 04:27 |
| tseng | oh.. how did i do the backport? | 04:27 |
| tseng | i commented out cli-common build dep | 04:28 |
| tseng | and dh_*cli* in rules | 04:28 |
| tseng | built once | 04:28 |
| tseng | then cli-common is installable | 04:28 |
| tseng | put it all back, built again | 04:28 |
| tseng | done. | 04:28 |
| Mez | so you basically made a fake pacakge for cli-common | 04:28 |
| tseng | but you cant make changes to the packages | 04:28 |
| tseng | yes | 04:29 |
| tseng | a bootstrap | 04:29 |
| Mez | hmmles | 04:29 |
| === Mez pings elmo/mdz | ||
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| Mez | tseng: I think we can probably get this to work, it's just a PITA to get it to that point | 04:34 |
| tseng | ok | 04:35 |
| tseng | someone can insert it by hand | 04:35 |
| tseng | the dummy source, that is | 04:35 |
| tseng | and then do a normal backport | 04:35 |
| tseng | I think | 04:35 |
| === chillywilly kick MS Projet in the nads | ||
| chillywilly | Project too | 04:36 |
| chillywilly | what a useless tool...people just simply do not work this way | 04:36 |
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| chillywilly | I am not a computer I don't do everything sequentially ;) | 04:37 |
| chillywilly | I also cannot predict the future | 04:37 |
| tamir | Does some one have freezing rhythembox problems? | 04:38 |
| tamir | I think it is something wrong with the package | 04:39 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 04:42 |
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| Mez | tseng: brandon right? | 04:47 |
| tseng | yes | 04:47 |
| tseng | whats up? | 04:48 |
| Mez | just checking so I knew I was CC:ing the right person | 04:51 |
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| bddebian | ogra: Ah, I thought I scared you away when I joined.. ;-) | 04:57 |
| ogra | bddebian, you did... but i recreated very fast today :P | 04:58 |
| bddebian | Heh | 04:58 |
| ogra | :) | 04:58 |
| siretart | release candidate 1 finished.. | 05:01 |
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| tseng | of revu2? | 05:03 |
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| siretart | tseng: hehe, of my thesis ;) | 05:04 |
| tseng | oh. | 05:04 |
| siretart | but this means, I will soon have time to work on reu2 | 05:04 |
| siretart | revu2 | 05:04 |
| bddebian | Heh | 05:05 |
| tseng | i figured out why cover art fetching in muine is broken (and fixed it) | 05:05 |
| tseng | rock on. | 05:05 |
| bddebian | tseng++ | 05:06 |
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| bddebian | Heya majic | 05:12 |
| majic | hello bddebian | 05:12 |
| majic | how is the universe today? | 05:13 |
| bddebian | How would I know? :-) | 05:14 |
| terrex | i'm fine, thx | 05:14 |
| terrex | lol | 05:14 |
| majic | I suppose I need to get one of those fancy gpg key things... | 05:14 |
| bddebian | majic: If you want to become an MOTU, yes :-) | 05:15 |
| majic | I'm researching it. I never messed with gnupg before. | 05:16 |
| majic | so once I create a key, somebody will have to sign it so that it can become part of the strongly connected set? | 05:23 |
| bddebian | majic: Yes, basically | 05:23 |
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| dholbach | hellas :) | 05:58 |
| dholbach | could somebody remove "danielholbach" from malone motu group and add "dh" instead? thanks :) | 05:58 |
| mbreit | hi dholbach... and thanks for the vote... | 05:59 |
| dholbach | mbreit: de rien :) | 05:59 |
| ogra | dholbach, any objection to do that yourself ? | 06:01 |
| ogra | i made all memebers admins | 06:01 |
| dholbach | ogra: danielholbach is a random crappy account | 06:02 |
| dholbach | ogra: dh is MY account | 06:02 |
| dholbach | :) | 06:02 |
| dholbach | that's my major objection which brought me here in the first place :-p | 06:02 |
| ogra | heh... ok, so if we want to see you here, we'll change your launchpad login in the future... great info ;) | 06:03 |
| dholbach | hahahahah | 06:03 |
| bddebian | Heya dholbach | 06:03 |
| dholbach | hey barry | 06:03 |
| tseng | dholbach! | 06:04 |
| dholbach | brandon! woohoo! - you're all here :) | 06:05 |
| tseng | sortof | 06:05 |
| === bddebian sent meeting minutes to \sh | ||
| dholbach | bddebian: super! | 06:07 |
| ogra | wow | 06:09 |
| ogra | thats fats | 06:09 |
| ogra | fast too | 06:09 |
| dholbach | i'm glad to see that everything's still the same... still REVIEW DAY! and ogra still struggles with his keyboard :-p | 06:09 |
| bddebian | Well, I didn't say they were right :-) | 06:09 |
| dholbach | ok, i'll be off cooking, before ogra slaps me too hard | 06:10 |
| ogra | dholbach, yes, but only because i broke it with my forehead hitting it caused by a gcompris desiase | 06:11 |
| dholbach | ogra: that's completely understandable | 06:11 |
| dholbach | ogra: ask herve on the side effects of extensive gcompris debugging | 06:11 |
| ogra | i fixed it... but python-gnome2-dev was broken.... costs me half a day... | 06:11 |
| herve | dholbach, 2 aspirins and a rope attached on the ceil | 06:12 |
| === bddebian jumps for the rope first | ||
| ogra | bddebian, thats a waste of aspirine | 06:13 |
| === dholbach hugs herve consolingly | ||
| herve | hello, by the way | 06:36 |
| dholbach | :) | 06:37 |
| bddebian | Hello herve | 06:38 |
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| herve | hello from Paris even :-) | 06:39 |
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| bddebian | herve: Nice | 06:40 |
| dholbach | you're in paris? | 06:40 |
| dholbach | cool | 06:40 |
| dholbach | i'd love to get there once again | 06:40 |
| herve | Montmartre, Pigalle :-) | 06:42 |
| herve | a tv series was shot the whole day in front of our office | 06:42 |
| herve | there were sweet actresses :-) | 06:43 |
| bddebian | Heh | 06:43 |
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| jeffm | hey guys | 07:22 |
| jeffm | can i install KDE on Ubuntu with no reprocussions? | 07:22 |
| dholbach | what's a reprocussion? | 07:24 |
| jeffm | will everything still work after i install KDE | 07:25 |
| dholbach | yes | 07:25 |
| jeffm | ok cool | 07:25 |
| dholbach | you can remove it afterwards as well (if you shouldn't like it) | 07:25 |
| jeffm | so its no big deal switching between KDE and GNOME | 07:25 |
| dholbach | not at all | 07:25 |
| jeffm | wicked | 07:25 |
| dholbach | you can choose the session type on the login screen | 07:25 |
| jeffm | are you on Ubuntu right now? | 07:25 |
| dholbach | yes | 07:25 |
| jeffm | whats its best feature?? | 07:26 |
| dholbach | that's a good question, but i think after more than a year i haven't decided yet - maybe somebody else knows a good answer to that :) | 07:26 |
| jeffm | lol | 07:27 |
| jeffm | did you switch from micro$oft? | 07:27 |
| dholbach | i think it's closest to the "just works" ideal and i love it's community | 07:27 |
| jeffm | k | 07:27 |
| jeffm | lol | 07:27 |
| dholbach | that was no joke, i really do :) | 07:27 |
| jeffm | good | 07:28 |
| dholbach | so you're going to try ubuntu now? | 07:28 |
| jeffm | well, on Friday | 07:28 |
| dholbach | excellent | 07:28 |
| jeffm | im getting a laptop | 07:28 |
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| jeffm | and im gonna put Ubuntu on it | 07:28 |
| highvoltage | cool | 07:28 |
| koke | jeffm: I installed kubuntu-desktop last week and works nice .) | 07:28 |
| dholbach | super, be sure to tell the mailing list how it all went | 07:29 |
| jeffm | isnt it in Beta? | 07:29 |
| dholbach | hoary is released | 07:29 |
| jeffm | ok | 07:29 |
| koke | jeffm: so it's breezy and I'm using it everyday :) | 07:29 |
| jeffm | whats the diff, besides KDE? | 07:29 |
| dholbach | breezy is still a bit bumpy and if you don't know where to look for errors it's a bit hard | 07:29 |
| dholbach | better stick to hoary still | 07:29 |
| koke | sure, hoary is nice enough :) | 07:30 |
| dholbach | if you install ubuntu, you can load the kubuntu-desktop package from the net (via synaptic) and be off just fine | 07:30 |
| jeffm | nice | 07:30 |
| koke | and there'snot much time left untils breezy becomes stable too | 07:30 |
| jeffm | i cant wait | 07:30 |
| jeffm | :D | 07:31 |
| dholbach | or install kubuntu hoary and load the ubuntu-desktop package (that's vice versa) | 07:31 |
| jeffm | yeah | 07:31 |
| koke | the result should be the same | 07:31 |
| dholbach | koke: 9 weeks or something | 07:31 |
| jeffm | ok, is the Ubuntu setup complicated? | 07:31 |
| dholbach | not at all | 07:31 |
| dholbach | should be pretty straight forward | 07:31 |
| dholbach | if you know partitioning from the windows world a bit, you shouldnt be afraid | 07:32 |
| dholbach | but there are setup guides out there | 07:32 |
| jeffm | ok nice | 07:33 |
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| bddebian | ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 09:06 |
| bddebian | Everybody is busy working right? :) | 09:06 |
| chillywilly | yea right | 09:07 |
| chillywilly | need foof | 09:07 |
| chillywilly | food too | 09:07 |
| chillywilly | bye | 09:08 |
| bddebian | chillywilly!!!! | 09:08 |
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| chillywilly | bddebian! | 09:34 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: You an MOTU yet? ;-) | 09:34 |
| chillywilly | no | 09:35 |
| chillywilly | u? | 09:35 |
| chillywilly | bddebian: you'll always be master of my universe ;) | 09:40 |
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| tseng | uh | 09:41 |
| chillywilly | huh? | 09:42 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: ;-) | 09:43 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: tseng doesn't like me | 09:43 |
| chillywilly | tseng sucks then ;) | 09:43 |
| bddebian | Bah | 09:43 |
| === Amaranth smacks bddebian | ||
| Amaranth | err, reflex | 09:44 |
| Amaranth | ;) | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | bddebian, if you don't dwell on it, tseng won | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | t either | 09:44 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: What did I do? | 09:44 |
| Amaranth | i dunno | 09:44 |
| === chillywilly brandishes the trout | ||
| === bddebian hides | ||
| === chillywilly wings it wildly | ||
| Amaranth | just felt like the right thing to do for some reason :D | 09:44 |
| chillywilly | *thwap* | 09:44 |
| tseng | bddebian: ive told you already | 09:45 |
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| tseng | bddebian: i dont like you when you are running at the mouth and not contributing anything | 09:45 |
| tseng | im much more cooperative when the scale tips the other way | 09:45 |
| Riddell | ogra: I'm alowed to upload new stuff to universe yes? | 09:45 |
| tseng | stop telling everyone how I hate you, its more "annoyed" | 09:45 |
| ogra | Riddell, you ask *me* ? | 09:45 |
| ogra | Riddell, you were MOTU before me :) | 09:46 |
| tseng | mdz told me yes | 09:46 |
| Burgundavia | Riddell, for the record, I heard mdz say that new universe stuff is fine with him | 09:46 |
| Riddell | ogra: just checking status of version freeze | 09:46 |
| Riddell | Burgundavia: groovy | 09:46 |
| ogra | Riddell, we talked about it... i trust you wrt UVF | 09:46 |
| chillywilly | tseng: everyone has to start somewhere and bddebian is trying from what I see | 09:46 |
| Riddell | groovy groovy | 09:46 |
| ogra | Riddell, so just go ahead | 09:46 |
| chillywilly | more than I can say for myself :) | 09:46 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: It's not good enough :-) | 09:49 |
| chillywilly | so what, you'll get better | 09:49 |
| chillywilly | what is this? #debian-devel? ;) | 09:49 |
| bddebian | Doh... Ouch :-) | 09:50 |
| tseng | dude, this doesnt involve you | 09:50 |
| chillywilly | and? | 09:50 |
| tseng | he's been on about a half dozen times about how i "hate him" | 09:50 |
| tseng | its tiring | 09:50 |
| chillywilly | I thought he was just being his normal goofy joking self | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, that is a nasty version number | 09:52 |
| ogra | hehee | 09:52 |
| ogra | its a ridiculous patch, that deserves a ridiculous version number :) | 09:52 |
| === Burgundavia imagines pitti saying "You want to my to upcheck that?" | ||
| ogra | i'll sort it with pitti... dont worry... i dont expect i'll get it through without changes ;) but i need the package installable to move on for now | 09:58 |
| ogra | i can always unapply the patch (its just dpatched) and even decide we move childsplay to main instead of gcompris | 10:00 |
| Burgundavia | I have always found gcompris to be very crashy | 10:00 |
| ogra | its rocksolid here | 10:00 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 10:01 |
| ogra | at least the little alien i made of it :) | 10:01 |
| ogra | <-- never used gcompris before edubuntu | 10:01 |
| tseng | alien :/ | 10:05 |
| tseng | im using that on scotty from mandrake | 10:05 |
| tseng | debian dropped it years ago | 10:05 |
| ogra | i didnt mean the tool :) | 10:06 |
| tseng | oh | 10:06 |
| ogra | i wouldnt upload alienized packages... even if alien would create source packages | 10:06 |
| tseng | sure | 10:06 |
| bddebian | tseng: So if you think I'm not doing enough, tell me what I should be doing :) | 10:12 |
| tseng | bddebian: start by not randomly going on with "tseng hates me" | 10:13 |
| tseng | i thought we were both past that | 10:13 |
| bddebian | :-) Sorry, I have esteem problems :-) | 10:13 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 10:51 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 10:52 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Since tseng won't tell me, will you tell me what I should focus on? :) | 11:05 |
| tseng | unmet deps. | 11:05 |
| bddebian | Stick to UnmetDeps? | 11:05 |
| bddebian | Ohh heh | 11:06 |
| tseng | theres lots! | 11:06 |
| bddebian | No kidding | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: stop being so paranoid | 11:06 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Paranoid about what? | 11:06 |
| bddebian | Heya \sh | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | people hating you, not talking to you, etc | 11:06 |
| \sh | evening | 11:06 |
| bddebian | \sh: You get my meeting minutes? Not specific enough? | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | hello \sh | 11:06 |
| mbreit | hi \sh | 11:06 |
| \sh | bddebian: I will wrap the rest ,) your "STEPHAN" was noted *lol* | 11:07 |
| \sh | hey mbreit | 11:07 |
| bddebian | OK, thx | 11:07 |
| === Mez goes and shufties around UnmetDeps | ||
| mbreit | tseng: and there are yet many debdiffs on the wiki page, but it seems that no motu is reviewing them | 11:07 |
| bddebian | mbreit: Glad you said that :) | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | sigh, elmo is around but boa-constructor isn't ready to be synced | 11:08 |
| tseng | mbreit: sorry. there are more projects than motus | 11:08 |
| dholbach | mbreit: is uploading that stuff to REVU to much overhead? | 11:08 |
| mbreit | dholbach: you told me not to upload it to revu? (or was it siretart?) | 11:08 |
| tseng | mbreit: hopefully bddebian will go for his upload rights soon and can go straight to the top. | 11:08 |
| bddebian | To be honest, I'm not sure I'm ready. I feel like there is a lot I don't know yet. | 11:09 |
| Mez | tseng: straight to the top? | 11:09 |
| mbreit | tseng: sorry, i think you misunderstood me... i did not want to critizise me | 11:09 |
| Mez | tseng: I think I'm still waiting for my upload rights | 11:09 |
| \sh | Mez: me as well for main....but don't hesitate :) | 11:10 |
| \sh | ask ivoks..when he's back | 11:10 |
| mbreit | ahm, i did not want to critizise _you_ of cause | 11:10 |
| Mez | \sh - hesitate ? | 11:10 |
| \sh | Mez: ivoks went crazy ,-) | 11:11 |
| Mez | ?? | 11:11 |
| \sh | Mez: to wait for elmo :) | 11:12 |
| mbreit | well, i am a bit confused now... should simple changes like the ones on the unmet deps page be uploaded to revu or not? | 11:12 |
| Mez | how did he go crazy? | 11:12 |
| Mez | mbreit: depends on how big the change is and whether you can get someone to review a debdiff | 11:13 |
| bddebian | mbreit: If they aren't very big no | 11:13 |
| \sh | Mez: he just started to try to upload every day ;) | 11:13 |
| bddebian | mbreit: In fact, I was told, they shouldn't really go on REVU at all because they aren't "new". | 11:14 |
| Mez | \sh lmao | 11:14 |
| Mez | \sh I've been trying now and then | 11:14 |
| mbreit | okay, my noteedit debdiff could be a candidate for revu, but the rest? | 11:15 |
| mbreit | the most patches are simple rebuild-for-unmet-deps-patches... | 11:15 |
| \sh | sorry when I'm delayed with my answers ...I'm hanging clothes | 11:16 |
| mbreit | \sh: you wanted to review my qcad patch... you promised to do that after the cc meeting ;) i do not want to annoy you, just to remind you.. if you have some time left.... | 11:17 |
| \sh | mbreit: just a moment :) | 11:17 |
| bddebian | mbreit: If I understood ajmitch correctly the other night, if all it needs is a rebuild with no changes, just make a note on the wiki. Doesn't even need a changelog entry | 11:17 |
| \sh | let me finish my underwear :) | 11:17 |
| bddebian | uhm | 11:17 |
| mbreit | ah, btw: i looked at the breezy release schedule today... | 11:18 |
| mbreit | and i have a question about that: | 11:18 |
| tseng | shoot | 11:18 |
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| tseng | you know, no one probably needs to post diff's for rebuilds | 11:19 |
| tseng | its just as easy for me to do the changelog myself | 11:19 |
| mbreit | tseng: some motu told me to do so ;) | 11:19 |
| tseng | hm | 11:19 |
| tseng | arent we organized | 11:19 |
| mbreit | can new packages come into universe after the feature freeze? | 11:19 |
| bddebian | no | 11:19 |
| tseng | yes | 11:20 |
| dholbach | yes | 11:20 |
| mbreit | okay, thanks | 11:20 |
| bddebian | I meant NO to | 11:20 |
| bddebian | <tseng> arent we organized | 11:20 |
| Mez | mbreit: if they're just rebuilds - then poke a MOTU | 11:20 |
| Mez | if you have to change something - and the debdiff is small, poke a MOTU | 11:20 |
| tseng | can someone tell me what things are simple rebuilds? | 11:20 |
| Mez | if it's BIG(or not small) | 11:21 |
| Mez | then REVU is yours | 11:21 |
| tseng | i can do a few | 11:21 |
| Mez | tseng: wish I knew :D | 11:21 |
| Mez | for example, http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/debdiff/webmin-optional.diff would be a "Poke a MOTU" candidate | 11:21 |
| mbreit | okay, then could someone please rebuild gltron, qsynth and qjackctl? they all worked well after i rebuilded them in pbuilder | 11:21 |
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| tseng | i will | 11:22 |
| bddebian | I had a few on the wiki that are simple changes/rebuilds | 11:22 |
| mbreit | tagtool and skribe also go to that list.. | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | we try & get to them when we have time | 11:22 |
| mbreit | tagtool and skribe are seth's to i can't garantee that | 11:22 |
| tseng | i am doing the 3 | 11:23 |
| mbreit | tseng: thanks! | 11:23 |
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| bddebian | xdiskusage and xbsql were just rebuilds I think | 11:23 |
| tseng | mbreit: please verify them as they build | 11:23 |
| \sh | mbreit: which archs u have to test? | 11:24 |
| mbreit | i tested all on amd64 | 11:24 |
| mbreit | but i could also test on x86, but not today, because i need a new chroot for that | 11:24 |
| mbreit | tseng: gltron, qsynth and qjackctl are verified by me a few days ago, should i do that again? | 11:25 |
| tseng | no i mean | 11:25 |
| tseng | after the build by ubuntu | 11:25 |
| tseng | verify that they are working and mark them off the list or something | 11:25 |
| mbreit | tseng: okay, i will do tha | 11:26 |
| mbreit | t | 11:26 |
| tseng | ive uploaded those three, are there more you can say are good for sure? | 11:26 |
| \sh | mbreit: where is your qcad diff? | 11:27 |
| tseng | http://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/qcad_2.0.4.0-1-2ubuntu1.debdiff | 11:27 |
| mbreit | \sh, http://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/qcad_2.0.4.0-1-2ubuntu1.debdiff | 11:27 |
| bddebian | tseng: xdiskusage, xbsql | 11:27 |
| bddebian | On x86 anyhow | 11:27 |
| mbreit | so http://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/noteedit_2.7.1-2ubuntu1.debdiff is a candidate for revu? | 11:28 |
| tseng | um | 11:28 |
| tseng | ok. | 11:28 |
| mbreit | it is not as much as it seems to be... | 11:29 |
| mbreit | most of that patch is a file from kde svn repository | 11:29 |
| tseng | bddebian: done, please verify when they hit the archive | 11:30 |
| bddebian | tseng: OK, thx | 11:30 |
| mbreit | tseng: oh, thanks for actually mentioning me in the changelog ;) | 11:31 |
| tseng | mbreit: thanks for testing. | 11:31 |
| mbreit | then i could add them to my done list? ;))) | 11:32 |
| tseng | mbreit: its nice to have a documented record of what people do, when you might want to join motu | 11:32 |
| tseng | we can point at it | 11:32 |
| tseng | mbreit: after they build and you verify it | 11:32 |
| mbreit | cool | 11:32 |
| tseng | rock on :) | 11:32 |
| tseng | you will have a few good things on your list. | 11:33 |
| bddebian | Gah, where's the buildlogs again? :-( | 11:34 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html | 11:34 |
| tseng | people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/ | 11:34 |
| Burgundavia | http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/ | 11:34 |
| tseng | buh | 11:34 |
| bddebian | Sheesh, thx | 11:34 |
| bddebian | Yeah we're organized Three MOTUs, three different answers.. ;-P | 11:34 |
| Mez | hmmles: logjams deps have been fixed | 11:35 |
| tseng | at least they are all right. | 11:35 |
| mbreit | tseng: so it's okay if i add these packages to my done list? or should i put your credit there? | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | bddebian, for the record, I am not a MOTU | 11:35 |
| tseng | mbreit: no, put *your* credit | 11:35 |
| mbreit | cool, thanks | 11:35 |
| tseng | mbreit: i dont have to prove anything to anyone :P | 11:35 |
| \sh | mbreit: patched qcad source now...I'm test building now | 11:36 |
| bddebian | Burgundavia: Oh,sorry | 11:36 |
| Burgundavia | bddebian, np | 11:36 |
| mbreit | tseng: well, i do ;) perhaps i should do something for my self-esteem... | 11:36 |
| tseng | heh. | 11:36 |
| tseng | hopefully you will prove yourself to TB someday | 11:37 |
| mbreit | \sh: cool... | 11:37 |
| mbreit | tb? | 11:37 |
| tseng | tech board approves new MOTUs | 11:37 |
| \sh | technical board | 11:37 |
| \sh | but first he has to be a member, i think | 11:37 |
| mbreit | when should i try to become a member? i mean, i just startet with this... | 11:38 |
| \sh | mbreit: write a wiki page with everything u did for ubuntu | 11:38 |
| \sh | document your work | 11:38 |
| mbreit | \sh: well, i only did this motu work... | 11:40 |
| mbreit | before that, i tried to help out the backport project on amd64... | 11:40 |
| \sh | mbreit: yes..document it | 11:40 |
| Mez | mbreit, when was that | 11:40 |
| bddebian | mbreit: Any work is help :-) | 11:41 |
| mbreit | Mez: i wrote john at least 3 emails, not just one answer... | 11:41 |
| Mez | mbreit: not just one answer .... ? | 11:41 |
| Mez | just wondering,cause only peron I know who's worke don backports for amd64 = Mike | 11:42 |
| mbreit | everything i heard from him was a short answer in the forums.. | 11:42 |
| mbreit | and there he just said that most of the work will be done automatically now... | 11:42 |
| bddebian | Well I'm gonna head home. Hopefully I can get some work done there. Later gang | 11:42 |
| mbreit | i did a lot of backports... a complete set of mono 1.1.8 with gtk# and so on for amd64 hoary... and a lot of other things... | 11:43 |
| Mez | mbreit: yes it will | 11:43 |
| mbreit | Mez: i know... but he could at least answer my questions... that was very frustrating for me | 11:44 |
| Mez | are you on the new mailing list? | 11:44 |
| mbreit | no, that was before there was a mailing list... i know there was some google group, but i never postet there | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | gah, demo at work has been moved up 3 hours... bad things | 11:47 |
| Mez | mbreit, well, the google group would have been a good place | 11:47 |
| Mez | ajmitch, did your stuff get put into backport | 11:47 |
| mbreit | Mez: after trying to contact john directly, i tried it in the forum.. but no luck as well, then i gave up... | 11:48 |
| Mez | mbreit: how long ago was this | 11:49 |
| \sh | any launchpad gurus online? | 11:49 |
| \sh | Mez needs to be as well admin for motu team on LP | 11:49 |
| mbreit | Mez: june? | 11:49 |
| dholbach | ogra: ^ ^ how is the "new" team called? | 11:49 |
| ogra | dholbach, no idea, i guess sabdfl will mail us after he created it | 11:50 |
| dholbach | ok | 11:51 |
| dholbach | thank you | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | Mez: what packages? | 11:51 |
| dholbach | i'm doing some reviews - could somebody look at the 1-review-to-upload packages on REVU? :) | 11:51 |
| Mez | ajmitch, wha? | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | Mez: you asked if I got my stuff into backports | 11:54 |
| Mez | oh, I must hit wrong key | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | ok :) | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | since I didn't recall requesting any backports | 11:55 |
| mbreit | Mez: could you (backport team) use another amd64 backporter? | 11:55 |
| Mez | ajmitch - was talking to mbreit | 11:55 |
| Mez | mbreit, not really now everythings moved to the buildds | 11:55 |
| Mez | plus, Mike does a great job anyways | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | although it'd be *great* to have the latest upstream inkscape in hoary ;) | 11:55 |
| mbreit | Mez: glad to hear that ;) | 11:56 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, we need it in breezy first | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: I know | 11:56 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, I need help convincing mdz | 11:56 |
| Mez | mbreit, 0.41 ? | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | and I hope to see it there soon | 11:56 |
| mbreit | Mez: you mean ajmitch... | 11:56 |
| Mez | yes | 11:56 |
| Mez | ajmitch, 0.41 ? | 11:57 |
| Mez | see.. | 11:57 |
| Mez | yuou talk next to each other | 11:57 |
| \sh | ok... | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | 0.42 | 11:57 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, I have a half finished email explaining why it is a good thing | 11:57 |
| \sh | mbreit: qcad is just building :( | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: it's a great thing, not just a good thing | 11:57 |
| mbreit | btw: someone should update gaim-guifications to the new upstream release... there are a lot of fixed bugs | 11:57 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, mdz freaked at the idea of a big release | 11:57 |
| \sh | mbreit: tomorrow morning it should be finished...so it looks good now...and if it builds niceley I will upload the patch ..hope your email address is whitelisted | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: I can understand that | 11:57 |
| mbreit | \sh: i know... i takes a bit in pbuilder.. because of this network connections from uic... | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: we're a few weeks past UVF, and they have to support it for 18 months | 11:58 |
| \sh | mbreit: i don't really care about uic :) kdebase takes longer ;) | 11:58 |
| mbreit | *g* | 11:58 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, yes | 11:58 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, the inkscape people already use Ubuntu | 11:59 |
| ajmitch | and the notice of 0.42.1 'real soon now' due to serious bugs isn't reassuring | 11:59 |
| mbreit | \sh: about my email address is whitelisted: i don't know... | 11:59 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, seriously? | 11:59 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: from a distro point of view :) | 12:00 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 12:00 |
| Burgundavia | just saw that | 12:00 |
| \sh | mbreit: please have a look in wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads and use this address to send your email with a nice statement to elmo | 12:00 |
| mbreit | \sh: i will do that | 12:00 |
| Burgundavia | the sheer number of features, it doesn't surprise me | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: I think mdz would worry about time it would take the release to stablilise | 12:01 |
| ajmitch | and I know the inkscape developers wouldn't want to wait another 8 months to get 0.42 or newer into a stable release | 12:02 |
| mbreit | \sh: elmo is at upload@ubuntulinux.org? | 12:02 |
| dholbach | mbreit: elmo or whoever does the job at the moment :) | 12:02 |
| dholbach | it's connected to the purpose | 12:02 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, I will prod them about our Feature Freeze | 12:02 |
| mbreit | okay, then i should just send an email "please add my address.... etc"? | 12:02 |
| \sh | yes | 12:03 |
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| Burgundavia | ajmitch, you use screem? | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: nope, emacs :) | 12:03 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, do you know anyone that uses screem on Hoary? | 12:03 |
| \sh | ok...off to bed | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: my flatmate is quite into design, and likes inkscape, which is why I would like to see 0.42.1 in | 12:03 |
| mbreit | " You must use a GPG key that is known to our archive scripts - if in doubt, mail keyring@ubuntu.com" | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | nope | 12:03 |
| mbreit | do i have to do that fist? | 12:03 |
| mbreit | ... first? | 12:04 |
| \sh | mbreit: no | 12:04 |
| dholbach | \sh: night stephan | 12:04 |
| mbreit | \sh: good night and thanks! | 12:04 |
| dholbach | mbreit: you have a gpg key already? | 12:04 |
| \sh | dholbach: u will end up like me...broken relationship, sleepless nights, terrible eyes...man..get some rest and sleep :) | 12:04 |
| dholbach | \sh: you should have seen me during hoary :) | 12:05 |
| mbreit | dholbach: yes... i always had one... | 12:05 |
| dholbach | \sh: i have a couple of relationships - that keeps young :-p | 12:05 |
| \sh | oh qcad just finished to build | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: well we saw you after hoary ;) | 12:05 |
| dholbach | mbreit: super, just sign it and you're set | 12:05 |
| \sh | dholbach: a couple? wow...wanna share? ,-) | 12:05 |
| mbreit | okay | 12:05 |
| dholbach | \sh: hahahaha :) | 12:05 |
| \sh | anyway my girl is back....so I need to get my hands on her...but she has also a lot to do for the weltjugendtag | 12:06 |
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