[12:22] hard choices, should I do simple-patchsys or dpatch for this package? :) [12:23] ajmitch: i would say, if you use cdbs use the first.. if not, use dpatch... [12:23] well I'd rather not use a patch system at all & convert all these packages to baz archives [12:23] I'd use simple-patchsys only because I'm used to it, but cdbs is fair game. [12:24] but that will take a bit longer to setup [12:28] hey crimsun [12:29] so far I only closed the MOM bugs [12:29] some more xfce packages built after the clean sync but many didn't still [12:29] I am looking at weird build failures [12:37] please [12:53] janimonoses: ok. [12:53] I'm looking at xfce-mcs-manager now. === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] crimsun, I think I saw similar pkg-config errors in hoary but I don't know in which package and more importantly how did the problem go away :) === incomplete [~xerox@adsl-7-241.37-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["ERC] [01:03] janimonoses: hard-wired configure.ac, mostly === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] mdz: we're meeting in #ubuntu-meeting - if you wanted to join us [01:05] yay mdz [01:05] mdz: point 5 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Client] [01:05] we're discussing config{sub,guess} handling in the pacjage [01:06] by default dh_make places the copying in the clean target, that means i clutter my diff.gz totally... whats the rationale for that [01:06] ? [01:07] grmpf... talking to myself here === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] ogra: :-) [01:11] ogra, well, tuxtype has legal issues as well [01:11] hrmpf [01:12] but a new upstream, not yet in debian might solve it [01:12] see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=218908 [01:13] without that new upstream version, I don't see pitti approving it === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] ogra, can you help me with FHS and Debian Policy stuff? === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] what FHSisms are at issue? [01:17] ajmitch, no, just checking that packages meet those [01:18] Burgundavia, sure... but currently i'm in motu meeting... and if the packages come from deban we dont need to care about FHS i think [01:18] I honestly have no idea where to start looking === poningru_ [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] ogra, can I assume all debian packages meet both, or there would be bugs about it? [01:19] yep the latter [01:19] ok [01:23] ogra, we have to move an entire source package, no? [01:24] Burgundavia, either that, or modify and split the binary targets that get built from it [01:25] this is one of those huge kde packages [01:25] kdeedu [01:30] do we need that ? i thought we only need pieces... [01:31] we need all but about 3 parts [01:32] the japanese lang stuff === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] ogra, shall we just pull in the remain few things? [01:36] hmm, can we postpone that decision ? i' currently in the mou meeting and working since 16h or more... [01:36] ogra, ok [01:36] shall I email edubuntu-devel about it? === janimonoses [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:51] good night everybody [01:55] Burgundavia, probaly good as a reminder [01:55] ogra: I have some minor problems, do you have a bit of time for me ? === macgyver2 [~eric@macgyver2.user] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === macgyver2_away [~eric@acs-24-154-44-180.zoominternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] ogra: or maybe refer me to somebody else I could ask for help... === ogra doesnt know who's awake now... [01:56] what is it comadreja ? [01:56] launchpad doesn't let me join the team moto and motuim [01:57] and I haven't received yet acknowledge for my key, CoC signature [01:57] comadreja, someone has to add you [01:57] it doesn't let me even be a proposed member [01:58] mako was travelling, he just arrived home... give him some time to catch up with mails and poke him online [01:58] oh, I see, could you add me to the motu team ? === ajmitch still isn't in the ubuntu members group :) [02:00] comadreja, you launchpad name ? [02:00] your === ajmitch will bbl [02:01] ogra, jorge-drqueue ? [02:02] jorge@drqueue.org ? [02:02] yes [02:02] added [02:02] thanks !! [02:02] you rock :D [02:03] its two clicks ;) [02:04] hey why is everybody administrator and me only approved ? :D [02:04] changed, sorry :) [02:04] just kidding, I thought it was right :) [02:05] every approved member should be able to change stuff for motu ;) [02:06] oh, I see [02:10] i will go to bed now, too... [02:10] good night everybody! [02:10] nite mbreit === robitaille wonders if he should apply for the MOTU launchpad team and see how much bug report spam he generates.... [02:28] ~/quit [02:30] ogra, I will email edubuntu-devel. I should also be able to have most of the reports finished tonight [02:30] wow [02:31] Burgundavia, you rock !! [02:31] it just means I have to knuckle down [02:31] making the reports is quite tedious === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:32] yes, but there are some heavy things in the list.. i'll have to add a lot later and ahve to change several dependencys of the packages [02:33] the servers apps I would like you to do [02:33] I don't trust that I have the right knowledge [02:33] sure, no prob... especially since we dont know yet if we go with php4 or 5 [02:33] i have to rebuild and test the packages first [02:34] the desktop stuff is pretty easy and I haven' [02:34] but currently my nightmare has the name gcompris... it wont compile with gcc-4.0 [02:34] the kdeedu stuff is going to be easy [02:35] I don't anticipate any problems there === StoneTable [~stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest [~chatzilla@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-168-248.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns [03:17] hi [03:17] ogra: do you know if gcompris FTBFS in sid as well? I don't see the bugreport there [03:17] how's it going, tseng ? [03:18] meh === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] one of those weeks? [03:18] ajmitch, nope, but on all gcc-4.0 based distros [03:19] cvs works fine here, i'll fix our package tomorrow [03:19] ogra: ok, I guess someone is yet to file a sid bug (hint, hint) *g* [03:19] ajmitch, i'll do this as well, but i cant wait anymore for debian... === bddebian hides before he gets "Volunteered" again.. ;-) [03:20] *g* [03:20] ogra: I know, I don't want to put any more pressure on you [03:20] bddebian: whyever not? [03:20] summaries of meetings is nice & easy :) [03:20] ajmitch, i work better under pressure ;) [03:21] so do I, funnily enough [03:21] but the only thing that is able to give me pressure is a calendar :) === ajmitch has the client coming in tomorrow at some point to get a demo [03:22] of course I only found out about it yesterday ;) [03:23] fun :) [03:23] sure is [03:23] not as fun as fixing unmet deps though [03:24] Heh [03:24] OK, ice cream time, later gang [03:24] bye bddebian === ajmitch looks at rapidsvn.. needs sync from experimental rather than fixed [03:27] if I touch it & don't file a debian bug, doko would hunt me down ;) [03:27] ciao bddebian === PlanarPlatypus [~alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gradzac [bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [~danielb@CPE-65-26-216-107.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [~crimsun@sh.nu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] ogra, you are aware that audacity is still borked on breezy [05:47] Burgundavia: how so? [05:48] please give some details of how I broke it, please :) [05:48] eh [05:48] Err heh even [05:48] ajmitch, cannot find default sound device [05:49] even if /dev/dsp is free? [05:49] yes [05:49] bloody hell, malone is borked right now [05:49] ok.. [05:49] it might just be my system [05:49] Burgundavia: Malone seems to work for me [05:49] I type is the search bar and go here [05:50] I was looking at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/337 [05:50] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ === ajmitch is at work right now, can't check audacity [05:50] Burgundavia: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/ works for me... [05:50] yes, but I don't go to that page [05:51] my url stays the search one [05:51] ajmitch, you are doing alsa stuff no? [05:52] Burgundavia: nope, crimsun is [05:52] ok [05:52] I try & ignore the details of sound stuff as much as possible :) [05:53] crimsun, are we waiting on a sync from debian with alsa? === ajmitch can't believe that someone would set sb16 detection as major severity, high priority :) [05:53] Burgundavia: which source package? [05:53] considering that they don't even use ubuntu1 [05:53] crimsun: look at malone #407 & lart them :) [05:54] crimsun, -base and -utils [05:54] sorry, -driver [05:55] Burgundavia: perhaps 4 [05:55] (-4) [05:55] ok [05:58] ajmitch: well...if you can't listen to your mp3s on your sb16 card, that's a real emergency :) [05:59] robitaille: I've still got an sb16pnp in a breezy box here :) [05:59] I can't remember the last time it actually worked [06:00] snd-sb16 should work fine with it if it's a genuine SB16 PNP [06:02] Gnight gang [06:05] crimsun: sure, but my card is probably dead [06:07] isa deserves to be relegated to the history books :) [06:29] barry is a wimp [06:30] :) [06:30] who the hell needs sleep anyway? [06:33] I don't see you volunteering to help out with everything ;) [06:36] I attempted to build some packages that had unmet deps but this guy ajmitch took away all my fun :) [06:37] that's what I'm here for === chillywilly is actually screwing around with M$ Project...boy is this fun... [06:40] chillywilly, you tried planner? [06:41] wassat? ;) [06:42] oh, project replacement [06:42] pretty much dead [06:42] needs someone who likes to hack something like that [06:42] I'd rather have something web based [06:42] which is pretty much nobody [06:42] dotproject looked promising [06:43] but I figure I will just learn stinking M$ Project for now and then find something web based later on === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-56-136.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] Hi. Is there a bum package for ubuntu anywhere? [08:07] dabaR, just got synced [08:08] was that mean? [08:09] haha [08:09] that did not mean what I meant. [08:09] he means 'yes' [08:09] What do you mean synced? [08:09] ok, coolness. [08:09] so, in one of the repos for hoary? [08:09] probably breezy [08:10] it would only be in hoary if it were backported [08:10] hm...so should one isntall it onto hoary, what is your estimate? [08:10] dabaR: it wont happen unless someone begs for it to go into backports, and assuming it can easily go into backports [08:11] so not just install the breezy version onto hoary? [08:12] it's often not a good idea [08:13] so, yall been warned type of deal...ok, thank you guys. === dabaR [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-56-136.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["thats] === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === carlospc [~carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-108-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c183040.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth passes out === Natja is away: Pas l, pas loin [09:37] Natja, please turn that off [09:40] hmmm, MS Project must die [09:47] morning, folks === Natja is back (gone 00:23:12) [10:01] Natja: Please turn that off. [10:06] hmm --> http://users.on.net/~spohlenz/ubuntu/ [10:10] Burgundavia: what is with that? [10:10] basic little tool to install ndiswrapper stuff, graphically [10:10] cool [10:11] there are even sources there [10:11] I have asked the author to come here [10:11] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=286024&posted=1#post286024 [10:12] I don't use ndiswrapper, but he is welcome to upload that package to revu [10:12] yes === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax6-041.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] that ndiswrapper thing is even written in python [10:18] cool [10:18] the UI cannot be simpler === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] siretart, http://img323.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndisgtk0zc.png === koke [~koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] looking nice, indeed [10:24] this one we might want to push into main [10:26] it's another summer of code project: http://spohlenz.blogspot.com/ [10:26] oh [10:26] didn't know that [10:27] that is why it is written in python [10:29] it's for this spec: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalConfigTools === tamir [~tamir@85-65-207-196.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] given that all the ones on that page got done by gnome in .12, I wondered what they would do [10:30] /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 275364547 [10:30] tamir, oops [10:30] tamir, you know that xchat can autoidentify for you? [10:31] damit [10:31] oh doesn't matter, I don't care of this [10:33] I find it interesting who is fetching that atheros project stuff [10:37] do you mean madwifi? [10:37] who is caring for this? [10:38] no [10:38] fedora got a soc to reverse engineer the atheros driver [10:38] http://computer-lab.blogspot.com/ [10:39] fedora and ubuntu both got bounties to write simple backup things. Both to be written in python [10:41] i could search... but where are the fedora bounties? [10:42] http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBounties [10:42] thanks [10:43] I really hope in the next month we get a flood of releasing stuff [10:43] because it is all quiet on the western front with some people [10:43] yeah, there's a few of the ubuntu bounties that i havent heard anything about [10:44] one has already been dropped [10:44] the xen stuff [10:44] yeah, i saw that [10:45] i don't know how many of them realize that the projects are supposed to be finished by feature freeze [10:45] i.e. one week [10:45] ouch [10:46] features after feature freeze make the doc team hunt you down and kill you [10:46] exactly [10:46] i'd like to live [10:46] there are still a couple of big things i need to do in the next week [10:46] it should be interesting [10:46] and next week is my physics final [10:46] fun. [10:47] what?! [10:47] xen has been dropped?! why that? [10:47] the bounty reciever never replied [10:47] that, and the hype has died down [10:48] :( [10:48] is there some mail about that decision? or blog entry? [10:48] hm... i thought the breezygoals page said it, but now it says it's assigned [10:49] did someone else get it afterwards? [10:49] deferred [10:49] ah, it's here: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties [10:49] err, I thought ed despard was working on this [10:50] he wrote this in a mail to ubuntu-devel on Jul 5 [10:51] ah, i see the mail [10:51] maybe it will actually happen [10:53] all the google stuff I want to see happen, but your stuff niran was probably the best [10:54] :) that's why i picked it [10:54] I am glad you have not gone awol [10:54] i think it'll really nelp new users that are used to the windows way to install programs [10:54] yes [10:54] synaptic + my step-mother = evil [10:54] haha [10:55] let alone CLI stuff [10:55] i think what really helps in terms of the bounties is that i was already around the community beforehand, so i kind of knew how things worked [10:55] yes [10:55] dropping in and starting something like g-a-i is hard [10:56] i still had to spend lots of time learning random things [10:56] it's my first real pygtk program [10:57] plus, it's using libraries with no documentation [10:57] fun. [10:57] when does google want the project to be done by? [10:57] sept 1 [10:57] ah [10:57] and who upchecks you? [10:57] our mentor [10:57] for me, mvo [10:57] ok [10:59] is the plan to make g-a-i agnostic of dpkg and push it upstream? [11:01] ultimately, sure [11:01] if fedora or someone shows interest, i'll try to abstract away the apt-isms [11:01] but for now it's not worth it [11:01] ya [11:02] what i'm more concerned about is making it easy for someone to do a kde port [11:02] but... it's tied pretty closely to the gui, so it'd take a lot of new code [11:02] one gtk program won't hurt kubuntu people [11:03] ITS MURDER [11:03] niran: BTW, if you want to look at my old notes about FindingPackages http://wiki.amedias.org/wk/FindingPackages [11:03] koke, cool, thanks [11:03] Lathiat, you'll live :) [11:04] I've just seen rrdtool binary is in universe but source is in main [11:04] is it normal? have I missed a layout change? :) === Natja [~Natja@138-46.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mbreit [~mo@p54876BCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] night === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-70-110-66-7.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax7-111.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ATuileries-152-1-19-59.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] hello [02:07] hey herve === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] <\sh> hey herve [02:07] <\sh> tseng: what must I read now on p.u.c? u had a surgery? [02:07] \sh! [02:08] \sh: i did. [02:08] yesterday [02:08] must have been fun [02:08] much better now [02:08] <\sh> tseng: I hope nothing serious....a new arm or something for faster typing? [02:08] recovering ok then? [02:08] yep [02:08] \sh: i am the 6 million dollar man [02:08] \sh: no.. read the post before [02:10] <\sh> tseng: ay...this is not good.. [02:11] no, it's obvious he needs motu work to keep his mind off things [02:12] <\sh> i believe it came with the mono work...MS stuff is not healthy at all...try to work on python stuff, tseng, or perl, and everything will be fine [02:12] i am not that interested in mono in and of itself, believe it or not [02:13] mainly in the apps? [02:13] tseng: so you're not Miguel's clone? [02:13] its the apps that run on mono that i am in love with [02:13] Treenaks: no. [02:14] <\sh> tseng: as your doc I will give you the advise..leave mono for a while and concentrate on soft stuff like python or perl ,-) [02:14] haha [02:14] i do tcl and php at work [02:14] miguel can be quite entertaining [02:14] ajmitch++ === bradb [~bradb@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] bradb: yo yo [02:19] how's the launchpad sprint going/gone in .br? [02:19] hey tseng, how's it going? [02:19] bradb: not too bad, yourself? [02:20] good thanks. busy spec'ing in brazil. [02:20] yeah, brazil :) [02:21] great, malone is looking better these days :) === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pete [~omega@ua-83-227-176-123.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] how do I tell what libavifile-0.7-dev depends on? [02:45] apt-cache depends libavifile-0.7-dev [02:45] thanks [02:47] and grep-dctrl tells me that only drip & dvr build-depend on it [02:48] transcode apparently does [02:48] but libavifile-0.7-dev wont install [02:48] libavifile-0.7-dev: Conflicts: libavifile-0.7 but 1:0.7.43.20050224-1ubuntu4 is to be installed [02:49] right, I just checked universe, not multiverse :) [02:50] perhaps it's a package that hasn't progressed through NEW due to a c++ transition or similar? [02:51] or I think the depends/conflicts is a mess [02:53] should I post this to the -devel list? [02:54] possibly, I'm not sure if anyone plans to fix it there [02:54] since it's a universe issue [02:54] ah [02:54] so where? [02:54] file bugs in malone [02:55] I have heard of that... where is it? === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:55] launchpad.net/malone [02:56] thanks === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] so do I register libavifile as a product? [03:06] no [03:07] oh wow @ new malone page [03:07] CarlFK: File bug on a package [03:07] which package? [03:07] libavifile? [03:08] ah - i see package now [03:08] bradb: i am loving malone. [03:09] how do I search for libavifile? [03:10] view ubuntu bugs [03:10] on the front page [03:12] tseng: really, that's good to hear [03:12] tseng: have you noticed significant improvements of late? [03:12] it looks like you fixed alot of my problems [03:13] bradb: im just now seeing the new updates, i must have not been on the page for awhile [03:13] yeah, malone is certainly more usable now [03:13] but oh [03:13] i got some malone spam [03:13] should i fwd to you [03:13] bradb, hey... have a look at [03:13] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/768 [03:13] ... any chance to avoid autoresponder spam from users ? [03:13] ah, right [03:14] because we get that spam now that the bugs are assigned to us === Hieronymus [~Hieronymu@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] that's what we had to ask about - getting a mailing list subscribed instead of all the MOTU team [03:15] the bugsummary is worth making a poster of it :) [03:15] what about an alias [03:15] rather than a list [03:15] 2.0.1-7ubuntu2 fubar, rebuilt 2.0.4-1 from Debian Testing fine [03:15] sorry guys, getting kind of distracted over here in .br. in the middle of writing Malone specs. [03:15] next landing is a CVE report for the distribution [03:15] thats what gentoo does, as \sh is so fond of pointing out :P [03:16] by tomorrowish, we should have landed the source package bugs listing === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] sweet === infinito is now known as infinito_away [03:21] shouldn't "source package name" be libavifile-0.7-dev or something similar? [03:23] source package name of libavifile is "avifile" [03:23] see apt-cache show libavifile-0.7-dev [03:23] thanks [03:24] btw: could someone please review my gnomeradio package? [03:24] http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=292 === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [~gazer@200.68.69.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] should I bother to fix the speedtouch package? since apparantly it isn't needed for kernels >= 2.6.10 === ajmitch uses it on a sarge box downstairs.. [03:39] sounds like a -devel list question [03:39] what is speedtouch? [03:39] see if anyone stil has a need [03:40] havoc: dsl modem driver [03:40] ah === highvoltage [~Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === havoc dislikes DSL :( [03:40] there's a kernel driver, and 2.6.10 has it's own firmware loader that this package supplied [03:42] DSL sucks [03:42] at least SBC's DSL sucks [03:43] so does everything else, but DSL just sucks less [03:43] SBC's is pretty bad as far as reliability goes [03:43] I have many clients who have no other option other than SBC DSL and it is nothing but problems [03:44] most of the issues related to PPPoE === ajmitch has no option but dsl [03:44] and there's only 1 dsl provider here [03:44] or rather their implementation of PPPoE [03:44] ajmitch: SBC? [03:44] you guys dont do cable? [03:44] no... [03:44] this is new zealand, why would we have SBC? :) [03:44] ajmitch: duh, I forgot :) [03:44] there is cable in only a couple of areas in NZ [03:45] but telecom NZ has the DSL monopoly [03:45] hi guys [03:45]