[01:16] <squinn> hey everybody
[01:16] <Burgundavia> salut
[02:16] <poningru> evening guys
[02:35] <Madpilot> hi everyone
[04:14] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot mon frere
[04:14] <Madpilot> hi weasel
[04:40] <jsgotangco> hey all
[04:41] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco 
[04:41] <Burgundavia> notice you checked in some edubuntu stuff
[04:41] <jsgotangco> what was rob's email all about?
[04:41] <Burgundavia> no idea
[04:41] <jsgotangco> well its just a draft of the proposed cookbook fork
[04:41] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:42] <Burgundavia> cool
[04:42] <jsgotangco> the cookbook after all is a tuxlabs project
[04:42] <Burgundavia> I about half finished the main inclusion stuff
[04:42] <Burgundavia> boy is that tedious
[04:42] <jsgotangco> nice
[04:42] <jsgotangco> did you have a good time with gcompris?
[04:42] <Burgundavia> I left that to ogra
[04:42] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: so that wasn't you evangelizing the KDE crowd? ;)
[04:43] <Burgundavia> yes
[04:43] <jsgotangco> he's not a KDE guy
[04:43] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:43] <HrdwrBoB> ugh KDE
[04:43] <jsgotangco> i used to be a KDE guy
[04:43] <Burgundavia> though I had thought about evanglizing kde again
[04:43] <Burgundavia> the indiana thing
[04:43] <Madpilot> the what thing?
[04:43] <jsgotangco> ahh
[04:43] <Burgundavia> 300,000 linspire desktops for indiana shcools
[04:44] <jsgotangco> w00t
[04:44] <jsgotangco> thats a lot of money for linspire
[04:44] <Burgundavia> yes
[04:44] <jsgotangco> oh well
[04:45] <jsgotangco> in other news, today is my last day of my contract with my current employer
[04:45] <Madpilot> nice that Linux is trying to do the Apple/Ms get-them-young thing
[04:45] <jsgotangco> tommorow i officially join the ranks of the unemployed again
[04:45] <jsgotangco> :)
[04:45] <Madpilot> except that it's Linspire...
[04:45] <Burgundavia> linspire is better that ms
[04:45] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, that sucks
[04:45] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, you should ask canonical for a job
[04:46] <jsgotangco> i don't think that's a nice idea even if its tempting
[04:46] <robitaille> jsgotangco: write a Ubuntu book :)
[04:46] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, why not?
[04:46] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:47] <jsgotangco> its just not my personality to ask
[04:47] <Burgundavia> be bold dammit
[04:47] <jsgotangco> i'll give it some thought though
[04:47] <robitaille> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/work.html
[04:47] <jsgotangco> the cookbook should make JaneW happy and stop playing with her whip
[04:48] <Burgundavia> yes
[04:50] <Burgundavia> god debbugs sucks
[04:56] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, do you want help with the new quickguide?
[04:57] <jsgotangco> sure i'd love to we should rename it first though
[04:58] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:58] <jsgotangco> its basically a what's new page no?
[04:58] <Burgundavia> Quick Tour?
[04:58] <Burgundavia> Breezy Tour?
[04:58] <jsgotangco> hmm
[04:58] <Burgundavia> Whats New?
[04:58] <jsgotangco> I like Quick Tour
[04:58] <Burgundavia> just throwing out ideas
[04:58] <jsgotangco> remember Breezy is our code
[04:58] <Burgundavia> yes
[04:59] <jsgotangco> its not the mainstream version name
[04:59] <Burgundavia> ya
[04:59] <jsgotangco> brb i should be working at the moment
[05:00] <jsgotangco> besides its my last day heh
[05:00] <jsgotangco> i'll be back later
[05:00] <Madpilot> just a thought before I head off to the gym: should we think about merging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxIntro  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowComeDraft
[05:00] <Madpilot> they're very similar pages, at least in intent
[05:01] <Burgundavia> sure
[05:01] <jsgotangco> but different authors?
[05:01] <Burgundavia> how about merging them into UbuntuIntro ?
[05:01] <Burgundavia> better title
[05:01] <Madpilot> yeah, different authors
[05:01] <Burgundavia> one had been moved to obselete pages on the old wiki
[05:01] <jsgotangco> hmmm if we could get the original authors on the frontmatter of the merged wiki, then i guess its ok
[05:02] <jsgotangco> we still dont know if they still hold interest in the wiki pages that they made
[05:02] <Madpilot> no page called UbuntuIntro yet. 
[05:02] <jsgotangco> that's my opinion though
[05:02] <jsgotangco> i'll brb
[05:03] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, create one
[05:03] <Burgundavia> we are Ubuntu not Linux
[05:03] <Madpilot> rob^ has done most of the work on the HowComeDraft page - is the author of the LinuxIntro page still active?
[05:03] <Burgundavia> no
[05:04] <Burgundavia> it had been moved to obselete pages
[05:04] <Madpilot> OK, I might start on this later tonight - but I'd like to talk to Rob first, because he's done most of the work on getting the HowComeDraft page going
[05:04] <Madpilot> anyway, need food then off to the gym. 
[05:04] <Madpilot> bbl
[08:03] <Madpilot> ?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> what
[08:04] <Burgundavia> we had a netsplit
[08:05] <Madpilot> OK, thought so. left the connection running while I was gone, came back to find everything down. just wondered
[08:06] <Burgundavia> freenode has them frequently
[08:07] <Madpilot> I've noticed - I've usually just been lucky enough to be on the non-splitting side of them so far...
[08:07] <Burgundavia> you may have also been booted for being on 24 hours
[08:07] <Burgundavia> freenode does that, regardless of activity
[08:07] <Madpilot> ah, OK. didn't know about that policy.
[08:08] <Madpilot> have you seen Rob - rob^ - around tonight?
[08:08] <Burgundavia> nope
[08:09] <Madpilot> too bad - wanted to talk to him about merging UbuntuHowComeDraft 
[08:09] <Madpilot> ah well, it'll wait.
[08:10] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:10] <Burgundavia> I did some editing to it
[08:10] <Burgundavia> can you make comments?
[08:11] <Madpilot> sure, just a minute
[08:14] <Madpilot> it looks good - but isn't Backports now offical?
[08:15] <Burgundavia> yes
[08:15] <Burgundavia> might as well add that under the hoary extras
[08:15] <Madpilot> shouldn't that very last section - the one with Extras in it - be above the "totally non-Ubuntu repos" section?
[08:16] <Burgundavia> the non-ubuntus section tells you how to add them
[08:17] <Madpilot> hmm? sorry, I meant shouldn't Specific Non Ubuntu Repositories be above Adding outside repositories?
[08:17] <Burgundavia> then the lower section tells you which ones to add
[08:17] <Madpilot> oh, and fix the Capitalization on Adding outside repositories!
[08:17] <Burgundavia> but you need to know how to add them before
[08:17] <Burgundavia> fix it
[08:17] <Burgundavia> you can login to the wiki
[08:18] <Madpilot> ah, OK, I understand how you've organized it. nvr mind
[08:18] <Madpilot> I am logged in. wasn't sure if you were also editing as we speak
[08:18] <Burgundavia> change the wording, as it sounds confusing
[08:18] <Burgundavia> nop
[08:18] <Burgundavia> it would warn you
[08:20] <Madpilot> change the wording of which lines?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> the confusing stuff
[09:08] <Burgundavia> night mon frere Madpilot 
[10:57] <jsgotangco> mdke, ping?
[12:04] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia, once again, i am a free man
[12:05] <jsgotangco> hey rob^ 
[12:05] <jsgotangco> nice email :)
[12:05] <zAo^> wb
[12:05] <rob^> hey jsgotangco 
[12:05] <rob^> yea
[12:05] <rob^> its a shame I had to send it
[12:06] <jsgotangco> yeah
[12:06] <jsgotangco> oh well...
[12:06] <jsgotangco> its funny how volunteer work can have a lot of polictics
[12:06] <rob^> yep
[12:07] <rob^> my prize/gift from the KDE docteam turned up yesterday
[12:07] <rob^> an intresting book about Richard Stallman
[12:08] <rob^> you can get it free under the GFDL too
[12:08] <rob^> I went to thank them, as soon as I mentioned Ubuntu it was on for young and old
[12:10] <rob^> lucky for me they like me :)
[12:10] <jsgotangco> whoa
[12:10] <jsgotangco> heh
[12:10] <jsgotangco> i agree with you in all parts
[12:11] <rob^> you have been doing some great work lately
[12:12] <rob^> so have a few others
[12:13] <rob^> but some are doing nothing but causing problems and its these people that need to pull their heads in
[12:14] <Burgundavia> rob^, Madpilot was looking for you, on finalzing the UbuntuHowComeDraft
[12:14] <rob^> well, I had better go and help my wife finish setting up for my sons birthday party tomorrow, I'm dressing up as Mr Incredible :)
[12:15] <rob^> Burgundavia, tell him I'll check it out tomorrow sometime and get back to him
[12:15] <rob^> ok, night all 
[12:16] <Burgundavia> night
[12:16] <jsgotangco> lol
[12:16] <jsgotangco> Mr. Incredible with the beer beelly?
[12:17] <rob^> yep thats me :)
[12:18] <jsgotangco> get a very tight belt
[12:50] <jsgotangco> later all
[05:22] <jsgotangco> hi all
[05:24] <mgalvin> hey jsgotangco
[05:26] <jsgotangco> mgalvin hey hows it going
[05:26] <mgalvin> good, lurking in -meeting
[05:26] <mgalvin> want to see where we are so we know what to write about
[05:31] <jsgotangco> there's not much to listen to about in this scheduled meeting because its just about quick updates
[05:34] <mgalvin> yea, i know, but they are at least saying what is and is not done and what things will be deferred
[06:12] <mpt> oh, there's a meeting today?
[06:13] <mpt> ah, not a docs meeting
[06:13] <jsgotangco> hi mpt still awake i see
[06:14] <mpt> It's only 1.14pm :-)
[06:17] <jsgotangco> eh where are you i thought you were based in NZ
[06:18] <mpt> Normally yes, but I'm in Brazil for the next few months
[06:18] <mpt> until the next Ubuntu conference, probably
[06:18] <jsgotangco> ahh by any chance, would you be able to review Style Guide when you have time?
[06:19] <mpt> sure
[06:19] <mpt> How malleable is it?
[06:20] <jsgotangco> its a very open doc in terms of contribution i'll check if there's an updated preview
[06:20] <jsgotangco> bu the style guide should be the foundation of future work in terms of consistency of material
[06:21] <mpt> I mean, are the current docs based on points in the style guide that therefore can't be changed?
[06:21] <jsgotangco> nope
[06:22] <jsgotangco> it was supposed to be finished a few months ago, but no one seemed interested in contributing except me and jeff schering who started it all
[06:23] <mpt> ok
[06:24] <jsgotangco> http://mypage.uniserve.ca/~jeffsch/writing/styleguide/index.html
[06:25] <jsgotangco> its not updated but majority of work is covered
[06:26] <mpt> I won't have time to read it today, and tomorrow I'm moving from the hotel to an apartment, so maybe on Sunday
[06:27] <jsgotangco> sure no rush, just give inputs on the list
[06:28] <jsgotangco> i appreciate it
[06:51] <mgalvin> rob^: ping
[06:56] <jsgotangco> i doubt if he's awake as its 3am on australia
[06:56] <jsgotangco> or depending on his location
[07:15] <jsgotangco> man im so drunk im surprised i still got to go through that meeting
[07:30] <jjesse> afternoon :)
[07:31] <jsgotangco> morning :)
[07:31] <jjesse> grin how are you jsgotangco
[07:32] <jsgotangco> drunk heh
[07:32] <jsgotangco> i still can't sleep but its only 1:30 am
[07:35] <jjesse> are you 12 hours ahead of me?
[07:35] <jjesse> its 1:30pm here
[07:36] <jsgotangco> seems so :)
[07:38] <jjesse> so its saturday morning for you then
[07:39] <jsgotangco> yep pretty much...i just had a few drinks with friends
[07:42] <jjesse> sounds like my plan for this evning
[07:59] <jsgotangco> heh nice..i'll see you later
[10:05] <mgalvin> does anyone remeber is fakeroot it part of the default install (i don't think it is but can
[10:05] <mgalvin> 't recall