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stimpieabydos, sorry cant help you with that12:00
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abydossh: /usr/share/enlightenment/data/other/applications.tar.gz: No such file or directory12:00
abydosXlib:  extension "XpExtension" missing on display ":0.0".12:00
salilSeveas:  is that command wrong..?12:00
Seveassalil, that's not how you use it...12:00
abydosXpExtension eh?12:00
stimpieabydos, I cant even get the repositories right for E1712:00
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FAMAShave you seen the Ubuntu os-tan yet? :o12:00
salilSeveas: can you show me ?12:00
Seveassalil, not right now since i'm going to sleep. Maybe the manpage can help you a bit more12:01
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salilSeveas:  i tried.. but i'm not getting any thing from it.12:01
ortoxanyone know how to run gparted through the live disc?12:01
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luiI have a little anoying thing about the firefox I recently installed in my ubuntu. anyone could give me a hand please?12:02
zAo^hmm: dmesg gives me hdc & hdd found, but not in my FS. Gnomebaker & k3b cannot burn12:02
pc19how do i install java in for firefox?12:02
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kaffeendjust to make sure, is this command the right one? chmod +x /home/me/armyops230-linux.run&&run /home/me/armyops230-linux.run12:03
pc19how do i install java plugin in for firefox?12:03
pc19how do i install java plugin for firefox?12:03
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zAo^pc19, plz dont. use www.ubuntuforums.org12:03
jasoncohen!tell pc19 about java12:03
zAo^of www.ubuntuguide.org12:03
Seveaspc19: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 12:03
zAo^omg ^^12:04
zAo^:D12:04
Seveasubuntuforums is good :)12:04
salilcan anyone help me with crontab..??12:04
thoreauputickaffeend: no - drop the second "run"12:04
Seveaskaffeend, just  /home/me/armyops230-linux.run12:04
Seveasand now i'm really off :)12:04
kaffeendok thanks again12:04
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pc19thanks12:05
thoreauputickaffeend: to run an app, just use the path to the app - "run" will just return an error12:05
CarmenSandieg1How do I add repositories?12:05
Stormxhaha theres a moth on my screen and Im scaring it away with my mouse pointer12:06
jasoncohenhas anyone else had filesystem corruption or problems with ubuntu just not booting up properly or breaking for no apparent reason?12:06
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thoreauputicStormx: unfortunately "xkill" won't work on moths ;-)12:07
CarmenSandieg1Jasoncohen, not me. ;)12:07
thoreauputicjasoncohen: negative12:07
CarmenSandieg1Is there a website to go to, to tell me which repositories I should use?12:07
jasoncohenCarmenSandieg1, it depends on what you want12:07
thoreauputicjasoncohen: check your RAM and hardware I'd say12:07
kaffeendOMG - it ran but I got this error back: Error in MD5 checksums: 6e25b44de3d6eade0b54278d6a3dd069 is different from bcae59c8dcd4a48d11e6d06bfa070a0912:08
jasoncohenthoreauputic, already done - i've run all the SMART tests on my HD and it passes each and i ran memtest for 8 hours- no errors12:08
CarmenSandieg1Jasoncohen, all except backports.12:08
SeveasCarmenSandieg1: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:08
gregg_jasoncohen: run memtest86 and mprime from mersenne.org -- if they report any error, your hardware is broken12:08
thoreauputickaffeend: hmm - bad download?12:08
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Joose^hi again12:08
jasoncohen!tell CarmenSandieg1 about multimedia repositories12:08
kaffeendhmmm...12:08
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Seveasjasoncohen, that one has backports12:09
jasoncohenCarmenSandieg1, that'll give you what you want. main, universe, multiverse, universe, hoary-extras12:09
gregg_jasoncohen: try mprime12:09
kaffeendwas a 7 hour download12:09
Joose^Seveas i do what u say me... doesn't work12:09
Joose^default 3 ; time: 512:09
jasoncohenSeveas, no it doesn't. i should know- i wrote it!12:09
CarmenSandieg1Thank you, jasoncohen, and Seveas. :)12:09
Seveas!multimedia repositories12:09
ubotumultimedia repositories is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories12:09
jasoncohenSeveas, it has hoary-extras, not hoary-backports12:09
thoreauputicSeveas: hope you realised my /msg was a joke ;) I intended to wipe the factoid immediately12:09
Seveasjasoncohen, it's from the backports project12:10
pc19~$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin12:10
pc19/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found12:10
jasoncohengregg_, what's the difference between mrprime's memtest and ubuntu's?12:10
Seveaspc19, install java-package12:10
Seveaspc19, you need to enable multiverse for it12:10
jasoncohenSeveas, yes, but it's not backports. they're different repositories with different users12:10
gregg_jasoncohen: mprime is something completely different12:10
jasoncohen*ues12:10
pc19how do i do it12:10
gregg_jasoncohen: it's a CPU test, not a memory test12:10
kaffeendso is there a way for me to correct this checksum error thing?12:10
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pc19sorry beginner in linux12:10
Seveasjasoncohen, true, but they still should not be enabled by default :)12:10
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StormxSeveas, wern't you leaving? Be sure to unmute that guy before you go ;-)12:10
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Seveaspc19, did you ever change /etc/apt/sources.list?12:11
hubsihow do i get my "version".. i wanna know if it's hoary or breezy12:11
Joose^the time was done.. i have to choose a option...12:11
jasoncohenSeveas, and they aren't :)12:11
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pc19no12:11
SeveasStormx, done that long time ago....12:11
StormxSeveas, sorry I missed it >_>12:11
jasoncohenthat page is for users that want multimedia codecs from extras. he said he wanted everything but backports12:11
pc19where do i get the guide to do that12:11
dynirHello12:11
paxmasterhello i am having problem with my palm sync to my computer12:11
Seveaspc19: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list12:11
jasoncoheni assumed he meant just backports and not extras which has java, w32codecs, libdvdcss2 etc.12:11
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Seveaspc19, then do: apt-get update12:12
stimpiesomehere who managed to install e17 thru nooms.de?12:12
Seveaspc19, then do: sudo apt-get install java-package12:12
jasoncohen!tell pc19 about repositories12:12
paxmasterit has something to do with /dev/pilot12:12
Joose^Seveas i change default 0 for default 3 and time 5 and doesn't work12:12
jasoncohengregg_, is there something wrong with ubuntu's memtest? you said to use memtest from http://mersenne.org/12:12
dynirunfortunately I'm stuck on windows xp.... I use the Ubuntu live cd to test computer and such, but that's about it.12:13
gregg_jasoncohen: sorry, my error. of course there is no memtest on mersenne.org :)12:13
SeveasJoose^, I forgot one thing - the separator is counted too12:13
SeveasJoose^, after the timeout id did nothing this time right?12:13
gregg_jasoncohen: ubuntu's memtest is just fine. mersenne.org is the home of mprime thougg12:13
Joose^yes12:13
kaffeendwell, if I can't manage to make a game run that was meant to run on Linux, I don't like my chances with windows games :s12:13
Seveasit did not boot anything?12:13
gregg_though12:13
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Joose^Seveas yes12:13
Joose^i have to choose a option12:13
SeveasJoose^, change the 3 to 412:13
thoreauputickaffeend: how long have you been using linux?12:14
Seveasmy mistake - the menu separator is counted too12:14
Joose^Seveas oka thanz... and the tiem is okay in 5 ?12:14
salilubotu: help me with crontab12:14
kaffeend3 days now thoreauputic12:14
SeveasJoose^, sure :)12:14
kaffeend3 very long days12:14
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Joose^Seveas :P okay... thanz again!12:14
Seveassalil, type sudo gedit /etc/crontab12:14
sun_the best days of one's life!12:14
pc19Seveas: Unable to lock the list directory12:15
Seveasand enter a timestamp and command to run12:15
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Seveaspc19, when do you get that?12:15
thoreauputickaffeend: the installation for your game sounded... non-trivial. I think you kind of were jumping in at the deep end12:15
pc19apt get update12:15
thoreauputickaffeend: don't let that put you off, is what I'm saying12:15
Seveaspc19, close synaptic12:15
salilSeveas: what do i do there..?12:15
kaffeendthoreauputic hmmm... okay12:15
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Seveassalil, you enter a timestamp in the format described there and the command you want to run12:15
sun_kaffeend: "The greatest test of courage is to bear defeat without losing heart."12:16
kaffeendI still have to get this working ASAP12:16
salilokay.. i'll try12:16
thoreauputickaffeend: also the md5sum mismatch suggests something was wrong with the file12:16
Seveasto run something at 10am you type:12:16
jasoncohengregg_, mrprime is a cpu test program? doesn't it just find primes?12:16
Seveas0 10 * * * root /path/to/program12:16
kaffeendI don't want courage, sun_ I wanna frag ffs!12:16
pc19its a command?12:16
jasoncohengregg_, i don't see anything about it being used as a tool to check the CPU12:16
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Seveaspc19, do you have synaptic or another package manager open?12:17
gregg_jasoncohen: it has a special torture test mode that's specially designed for this purpose12:17
jasoncohenok12:17
apokryphosIs there a command to check *Network* uptime?12:17
gregg_it's also commonly used for such things12:17
sun_kaffeend: what are "ffs"?12:17
kaffeendthoreauputic I'll download it again12:17
pc19no12:17
Seveasapokryphos, no12:17
Spudchatis there a better way to see what running than "ps"12:17
kaffeend??12:17
jasoncohengregg_, do you know what packages i need to satisfy its dependencies?12:17
gregg_jasoncohen: huh?12:17
kaffeendffs = for fuck's sake12:17
Spudchatsorry whats running in the background12:18
thoreauputicSeveas: I'm assuming your silence re: my little joke means you didn't appreciate it.. so be it.12:18
apokryphosSeveas: and nothing in /proc that might do it?12:18
gregg_jasoncohen: I'd simply grab the statically linked, precompiled executable :)12:18
salilSeveas: what do i give for minutely..??12:18
Seveasthoreauputic, I didn;t really appreciate it but didn't mind either :)12:18
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kaffeendsun_ but thankyou for your encouragement :D12:18
thoreauputicSeveas: OK :)12:18
Seveassalil to run something at 10am you type:12:18
Seveas0 10 * * * root /path/to/program12:18
pc19seveas:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied12:18
sun_speaking of games, does anyone play TC:E? it's quite enjoyable12:18
Seveasapokryphos, nope, nothing in /sys either12:19
Seveaspc19, ah!12:19
Seveassudo apt-get update12:19
salilSeveas: i mean.. for minutes.. like in cron.weekly and cron.hourly.. for minutes what do i give..?12:19
jasoncohengregg_, does it need to be run with root privileges?12:19
apokryphos:S12:19
Seveassalil, the point in time you want to run it12:19
kaffeendwhat genre is that sun_?12:19
gregg_jasoncohen: no12:19
pc19thanks12:19
Seveasand in cron.hourly/weekly you give no timestamps..12:19
paxmasterhello i am having problem with my palm sync to my computer12:19
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sun_kaffeend: it is like counter-strike, but far more realistic; and open source! :)12:20
kaffeendsun_ ooh... reaaaally? Hmmm...12:20
Seveassalil, if you be a bit more specific in what you want to run and when, I can give you a pre-coooked example12:20
kaffeendFPS is my fav genre! ;)12:20
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salili want to turn off the modem... "poff" at 7 o'clock..12:21
CarmenSandieg1Why doesn't Ubuntu "support" libdvdcss2?12:21
mark_!backport12:21
ubotumethinks backport is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:21
mark_!backports12:21
ubotuit has been said that backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:21
mark_oops12:21
jasoncohengregg_, ok i chose the "Options/Torture Test"12:21
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kaffeendwill I need cedega to run it sun_?12:21
sun_kaffeend: have a look: http://truecombat.com/intro.php12:21
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mark_soz :D12:21
kaffeendlooking now12:21
mark_bbs12:21
sun_kaffeend: it has native linux & windows binary12:21
jasoncohengregg_, how long does it need to be run to find problems?12:21
kaffeendo_O12:21
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Seveassalil: 0 7 * * * root /usr/bin/poff12:21
kaffeendbinary? lovely12:22
gregg_jasoncohen: good question. :) probably half an hour is fine.12:22
Seveasthat's the complete line to add to /etc/crontab12:22
kaffeendsun_ these weapon models look fantastic too!12:22
saliloh .. i think it worked..12:22
jasoncohenhow accurate ar the SMART tests? A HD can still be failing even if it passes every test?12:23
thoreauputicsalil: unless you meant 7 pm12:23
sun_kaffeend: yup. this game is a mod for "enemy territory"12:23
salilSeveas: thanks a lot12:23
MartenHkaffeend, what game are you talking about?12:23
kaffeendbut that's RTCW mod12:23
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gregg_jasoncohen: it'll try to recomputer known large primes and if that fails, you'll know you cpu is flaky/overheated/whatever12:23
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sun_kaffeend: enemy territory (ET) has been made standalone & released under GPL many years ago12:23
kaffeendTrue Combat Elite MartenH12:23
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MartenHkaffeend, I imagine it is playable on linux?12:23
pc19where do i get the name of the package12:23
kaffeendsun_ I see12:24
^thehatsrule^kaffeend: i play tce as well12:24
sun_MartenH: that is correct. you can get source or native linux/windows binary12:24
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kaffeendsun_ I have been playing and modding for FarCry now for about 8 months12:24
kev_i just installed ubuntu 5.04. when i go to update packages it reports that it can't authenticate any of the packages. how do i go about adding the appropriate keys for the standard repositories?12:24
StormHi everyone, i have some sound problems, i cant get 5.1 surround, and the sound i got now scuurs and has lowlowlow quality. ANyone?12:24
TerrorBiteI have a dodgy soundcard, picks up mobo noise12:25
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SeveasKev0r, the standard repository keys are installed automagically12:25
TerrorBitetry wrapping it in tinfoil :=)12:25
MartenHsun_, nice. an donline gaming I assume?12:25
sun_kaffeend: cool; i hope you get to know TC:E better then :)12:25
kaffeend^thehatsrule^ cool we can go afraggin together then! ;)12:25
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MartenHsun_, how much does it cost?12:25
sun_MartenH: yes. it is an online-only game12:25
pc19seveas: cannot find package12:25
sun_MartenH: it is free as in beer & speech (GPL)12:25
kaffeendthis game better not suck! :P12:25
gregg_Storm: some soundcards aren't fully supported with ubuntu. it might help if we knew the name of the card or better, chipset12:26
pc19E: Couldn't find package jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin12:26
Seveaspc19, hehe12:26
thoreauputicpc19: if you mean the name of a package you want to install, apt-cache search <keyword> will help12:26
holycowhow the heck does norton ghost image hd's so quickly12:26
Seveasthat's not the right command12:26
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kev_Seveas: any thoughts on why it (dpkg or that little systray thing) would complain about not being able to authenticate the packages?12:26
holycowit must not write every byte to the platters like dd ... *hmmm*12:26
Seveaspc19, did you do: sudo apt-get install java-package12:26
kaffeendsun_ do I need enemy territory to install this as a mod?12:26
Storm0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)12:26
Seveaskev_, perhaps you use nonstandard repositories12:26
pc19no12:26
MartenHsun_, the whole game? Nice! Where can I find more info? official website?12:26
sun_MartenH: have a look at the website truecombat.com/intro.php12:26
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sun_MartenH: have a look at the website truecombat.com/intro.php12:27
Seveaspc19, then do that12:27
MartenHsun_, :) ty12:27
pc19sudo apt-get install jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i58612:27
pc19.bin12:27
TerrorBiteStorm: I have one of those too, but it works fine. It's built in12:27
kev_Seveas: this is in a fresh install. even on the first reboot when it goes on the network to download updated packages it complained. the install occurred ~5 min ago12:27
Seveasno12:27
sun_kaffeend: yes, you need ET for TC:E12:27
pc19this :sudo apt-get install jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i58612:27
Seveaspc19, sudo apt-get install java-package12:27
crimsunStorm: are you using plug:surround51?12:27
kaffeendmethinks maybe sun_ has been involved with this game's development :/12:27
kaffeendok12:27
Seveastype that over literally12:27
holycowheh, good exit msg12:27
pc19ok12:27
kaffeend2 downloads coming right up12:27
sun_kaffeend: i wish =) sorry, i'm just another player12:27
Stormcrimsun: dont think so12:28
kaffeendok12:28
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sun_kaffeend: they have contact info on their website if you want to get involved12:28
TerrorBitestorm: Do the drivers work?12:28
Seveaspc19, did that work?12:28
kaffeendthis game's still in BETA12:28
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pc19yes thanks12:29
Seveaspc19, ok, next step12:29
StormTerrorBite: I havent gotten any spesial drivers :S12:29
zkruwanyone know how to burn an avi movie so im able to watch it on my standalone dvd-player? It dosent work like windows :S u know the burn data st12:29
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zkruwuff12:29
Seveaspc19, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin12:29
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frank_bhi all12:29
Stormlu12:29
TerrorBiteStorm: Maybe you just have a dicky plug12:30
sun_kaffeend: quite right. they use logical versioning like many open source projects; so although it's BETA it's as good as CS12:30
StormTerrorBite: Where can i get new plug?12:30
TerrorBiteStorm: I'm assuming it's a built in VT82C686?12:30
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pc19seveas: where do i learn this things12:31
TerrorBiteStorm: Just clean it with a cotton bud, it might help12:31
StormTerrorBite: I guess12:31
salilSeveas: it worked for the first time.. now its not working again..12:31
jasoncohengregg_, will the tests just go on forever? it's on the second test now12:31
Seveaspc19, this thing is also explained on a wikipage12:31
pc19seveas: this work only in ubuntu?12:31
Seveaspc19, it's a debian thing12:31
StormTerrorBite: its is a software problem.12:31
jasoncohengregg_, or is there a certain number of tests it goes through12:31
Seveaspc19, did the fakeroot etc.... finish already?12:31
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pc19not yet12:32
frank_bcan someone tell me how to delete a directory owned by "root"?12:32
TerrorBiteStorm: ok then, maybe you need better drivers12:32
Seveasfrank_b, which directory?12:32
dieselI would like to use ssh to encrypt my web traffic.  How do I do that?12:32
pc19done12:32
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TerrorBitefrank_b: Open a root terminal then type "rmdir <path>" but make sure the dir is empty12:33
Seveaspc19, ok last step now12:33
thoreauputicfrank_b: yes, but I'd like to know what it is first - it might be rather important :)12:33
Seveassudo dpkg -i sun*deb12:33
pc19cool12:33
frank_bSeveas: one called "winamp" in my home folder... (it appears with a key symbol in nautilus)12:33
TerrorBitethoreauputic: god point12:33
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Seveasfrank_b, sudo rm12:33
TerrorBite*good even12:33
Ozziejhi12:33
kaffeendsun_ I remember when we all used to play Rogue Spear... It was da bomb, and then I got to be a part of a beta testing team for Half Life. We were all gaga over the graphics, and some of the guys said "hey, let's mod this engine to recreate Rogue Spear"... I don't know for sure, but I think that may have been the birth of CS - which is just a mod after all.12:33
Seveasfrank_b, sudo rm -r /home/YOUR_USERNAME/winamp12:33
gregg_no, just different primes12:34
gregg_jasoncohen: no, just different primes12:34
frank_bSeveas: thanks. I'll try that one.12:34
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salilSeveas: 44 45 * *   salil/usr/bin/poff................ this is it no..??12:35
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TerrorBiteSeveas: I heep forgetting about sudo, it's new to me. It prompts for the root password in a little box, yes?12:35
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Seveassalil, that would only work on 4:44 am on the 5th of every mothn12:35
Seveasand would run as user salil12:35
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frank_b(to all: I've tried using the root terminal, entering the command "rmdir" but it said the directory was not empty, therefore it wouldn delete it. I tried the "--ignore..." option then, but nothing happened...)12:36
kaffeenda quick question - can I play this game on my 64 bit system?12:36
Seveaspoff should be run as root iirc12:36
thoreauputicTerrorBite: you are thinking of gksudo - sudo prompts on a new line in the terminal12:36
salilSeveas:  yes.. that is what i want.. but its is not working..12:36
pc19seveas: last step?12:36
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frank_bI'll try the rm option12:36
Seveasfrank_b, rm -r is a recursive remove12:36
Seveaspc19, sudo dpkg -i sun*deb12:36
StormTerrorBite: Working on it :P12:36
salilit should work rite now on my computer .. but its not working..12:36
salilSeveas: it should work rite now on my computer .. but its not working.12:36
Seveassalil, it's :36 now, not :44 :)12:36
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TerrorBitethoreauputic: thanks12:37
frank_bSeveas: yes, thanks! it worked! :)12:37
salilSeveas: in my computer.. its 46 now..12:37
Seveasah12:37
thoreauputicSeveas: poff doesn't need root if run by a user in the dialup and dip groups12:37
Seveassalil, odd12:37
TerrorBitethoreauputic: sort of like su - -c '<command>'?12:37
Seveasmaybe you put it in too late12:37
Seveastry with :55 now12:37
salilSeveas: how come..?12:37
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Ozziejhi12:38
Seveasthoreauputic, check, thanks12:38
thoreauputicTerrorBite: try it and see - yes, similar12:38
confreyhow can I force apt to use debs from local archives before using debs from internet archives?12:38
sun_kaffeend, wow you've been modding since back then?12:38
salilSeveas: i'm trying with 5012:38
TerrorBitethoreauputic: sorry, love to try but I'm currently on Windows :-(12:38
salilSeveas: btw.. how to you know what time it is here...?12:38
kaffeendsun_ no I was just playing then - only started modding about 8 months ago12:38
frank_bthank you everyone. bye. :)12:38
thoreauputicTerrorBite: ah, that will cramp you a little, yes ;)12:39
Seveassalil, my clock is synchronized to a timeserver12:39
TerrorBitelol12:39
Seveasif yours were synchronized, it would be :39 now too on your pc12:39
salilSeveas: mine.. is not.. mine is my home time..12:39
salilSeveas: it is 4 in the afternoon..?12:39
sun_kaffeend, so what motivated you to try ubuntu?12:39
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Seveassalil I said nothing about the hour :012:40
Seveas:(12:40
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Seveas:)12:40
kaffeendis there any reason java would be preventing the download of this file?12:40
Seveasdang...12:40
Positroni heard that ndiswrapper is available with ubuntu ; yet, i dont find it in synaptic12:40
salilSeveas: ooh.. okay..12:40
kaffeendwindows shat itself12:40
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Seveassalil, 4 in the afternoon is 16, not 4!12:40
skalpel_can someone tell me why cdrecord will not work for me even though i am using the correct device node?12:40
Squallellow, i got a little problem with passwords12:40
crimsunskalpel_: are you using /dev/hdX ?12:40
TerrorBitekaffeend: that i'd like to see12:40
Squalli just booted an old computer12:40
salilSeveas: yes.. its 4 in the  morning here.. i thought it was 4 in the afternoon at your place..12:40
Squallbut i forgot the passwords12:40
sun_kaffeend, good reason :)12:40
skalpel_crimsun: yes12:40
Seveas:)12:40
Squallhow can i get it back?12:40
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Seveassalil, no it's 00:40 here :)12:41
salilSeveas:  okay12:41
pc19seveas: thats cool. thanks a lot!12:41
kaffeendsun_ Ubuntu seemed the right mix of user friendly gui and rock solid stability - from what I had heard12:41
Seveaspc19, to save up diskspace, remove the ,bin and the .deb again12:41
kaffeend] TerrorBite windows shitting itself?12:41
Seveasyou don't need them anymore :)12:41
salilSeveas: its still not working..12:41
pc19where do i find them?12:41
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salilSeveas: i don't know.. what is wrong12:42
Squallanyone can help? give me link?12:42
pc19i saw them12:42
pc19lol12:42
skalpel_crimsun: /dev/hdc to be exacty12:42
TerrorBitekaffeend: but then it does it all the time, doesn't it? Blue screens and all of that12:42
salilSeveas: when i hit gedit /etc/crontab.. then i get some warnings..12:42
pc19hehehehe im leaving windows soon12:42
kaffeendyeah12:42
pc19lol12:42
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Seveassalil, copy your crontab on the pastebin please12:42
skalpel_how do i switch to window 11, 12 etc in irssi, anyone know?12:42
thoreauputickaffeend: you can tell when windows is really unhealthy by the blue colour of its faeces ;)12:42
Seveasand the warnings with it12:42
Seveasskalpel, /win 1212:42
skalpel_k12:42
salilSeveas: what is a paste bin??12:42
TerrorBitethoreauputic: lol12:43
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jasoncohenpc19, why don't you just enable hoary-extras and "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"12:43
Seveassalil, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:43
salilSeveas: ooh :)12:43
Goodspeedok i have a .1386 file with no extension12:43
Goodspeedif i set it to .tar12:43
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Squallanyone wants to help an idiot?12:43
Seveasjasoncohen, (s)he had already downloaded the .bin :)12:43
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Goodspeedit has the file . and then the subs usr in it12:43
Goodspeedhow do i use this file?12:43
skalpel_crimsun: you there?12:43
apokryphosSquall: no-one can without knowing the problem/issue12:43
TerrorBiteSquall, why else are we here?12:43
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thoreauputicSquall: wow, that's a great opening line!12:43
jasoncohenSeveas, he's been working on it for a while. it would have been installed a long time ago if he just used the deb12:43
crimsunskalpel_: what error are you getting?12:43
pc19Jasoncohen: how is that12:43
kaffeendwindows has encountered a problem and needs to be shut down. Any unsaved work will be torn from you and fed to the demons of hell. Send error report if you want, but we don't read them, so you may as well fuck yourself! We apologize for the inconvenience.12:44
jasoncohenpc19, how is what?12:44
Squallthoreauputic i had an opening line earlyer12:44
Seveasjasoncohen, not per se12:44
salilSeveas: i did it..12:44
Seveasdownloading from hoary-extras is slow :)12:44
Squalli need root password recovery help12:44
Squalli got the computer right next to me12:44
depravehow do you make a new window in irssi12:44
pc19Jasoncohen: so new with linux. dont know what u mean?12:44
Squallhow do i do it?12:44
TerrorBiteI better go, Storm, frank_b, thoreauputic, kaffeend and that - see ya later12:44
jasoncohenSeveas, not for me12:44
SeveasSquall: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:44
skalpel_crimsun: i got this error whern i used -scanbus12:44
thoreauputicSquall: if it's Ubuntu,boot in recovery mode12:44
skalpel_crimsun: cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.12:44
kaffeendcya terrorbite12:44
jasoncohen!tell pc19 about java12:44
crimsunskalpel_: you're not supposed to use -scanbus12:44
SquallSeveas: i know that. i dont know root or user passwords :>12:44
jasoncohenpc19, if you follow those instructions you can easily install java from synaptic12:45
skalpel_ crimsun: from what i know my drive uses atapi drivers12:45
jasoncohenpc19, or apt-get12:45
Squallthoreauputic: after i boot to recovery what do i do?12:45
crimsunskalpel_: dev=/dev/hdc should work just fine12:45
jasoncohenpc19, first follow this guide -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories to add hoary-extras12:45
jasoncohenpc19, then "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re-1.5"12:45
salilSeveas: i posted it in the pastebin12:46
Seveassalil, looks right to me12:46
Seveassalil, what is the warning you get?12:46
thoreauputicSquall: you can make a new user with the adduser command, for example (you should get a root prompt by default)12:46
Ozziejhi, im having a problem with the nvidia driver installer, could someone please read this log http://www.farg.demon.nl/nvidia-installer.log i have the right kernel headers installed12:46
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bolshHi12:46
Seveasjasoncohen, he already has java now!!12:46
salilSeveas: shall i post that too??12:46
pc19Jasoncohen: jewish?12:46
Seveasplease don't confuse people12:46
Seveassalil, please do12:46
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bolshI'm having trouble with my keyboard layout, just after installing hoary12:46
mike_hmm12:46
Squallthoreauputic botter the recovery a few hours earlyer but all i got was a login prompt12:46
jasoncohenpc19, yes12:46
Squall:>12:46
bolshI have a mac keyboard (chosen)12:46
skalpel_crimsun: can you give me an example of how wildcards work in unix?12:46
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salilSeveas:  okay12:47
Seveaspc19, don't type the sudo apt-get install that jasoncohen gave you12:47
Seveaspc19, you already have java, installing it twice is pointless12:47
crimsunskalpel_: cp * /tmp/.12:47
bolshwhich I also identified during the install (why isn't the same layout carried over after the install, I wonder?)12:47
jasoncohenSeveas, oh, so you were just telling him to remove the .deb to save space?12:47
skalpel_ok12:47
jasoncohenpc19, nevermind then12:47
Seveasjasoncohen, yeah12:47
thoreauputicSquall: try hitting ctrl-d12:47
FiretechI want to be able to make caps lock itself do nothing, while alt+caps lock should act as caps lock normally would do. This is possible to do in the console by changing the kmap files, but in X I can't find out how... Anyone here that has an idea about this?12:47
bolshBut a bunch of keys aren't the same as in the mac layout~$ for example12:47
Squallthoreauputic: thx will try12:47
salilSeveas: can you make anything out of that..?12:48
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jasoncohenpc19, yes, i am12:48
teferihmm, curioser and curioser.12:48
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teferilooking at /proc/kallsyms tlels me that at least some of the atheros driver functions got linked into the kernel...12:48
teferiit's like the modules are somehow half-loaded12:48
skalpel_crimsun: what would i use to sepreate multiple directories that i want to write to disc, a comma?12:48
Seveassalil, irrelevant error, has nothing to do with this12:49
teferivery, very weird12:49
crimsunskalpel_: no, whitespace12:49
skalpel_crimsun: thank you very much12:49
salilSeveas: okay... . so what do you think i should do ..?12:49
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bolshPlus the keyboard manager keeps crashing on me12:49
Seveassalil, no idea really....12:49
Seveasare you sure you saved the file in time?12:49
skalpel_crimsun: can i paste you the error message i am getting?12:50
salilSeveas: yes.. its just as it says in the pastebin..12:50
Seveassalil, also: do you get any info from /var/log/messages about it?12:50
kaffeendsun_ is it normal to download a page full of commands?12:50
salilSeveas: no..12:50
crimsunskalpel_: paste in #flood12:50
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Ozziejno one can help me with my problem? log-> http://www.farg.demon.nl/nvidia-installer.log <- i have to use the manual install because any driver newer than 4496 doesnt work correctly12:51
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skalpel_crimsun: get that?12:51
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SeveasOzziej, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:52
Ozziejwhats aptitude?12:52
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crimsunskalpel_: medium error? got a blank cdr in the drive?12:52
SeveasOzziej, it's a package manager12:52
skalpelcrimsun: cd-rw, i do not get this error when i write to cd-r12:52
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crimsunskalpel: sounds like a hardware issue or a cd-rw media issue, then.12:53
crimsunOzziej: you'll need the 2.6 patches from minion.de12:53
skalpelcrimsun: what do you mean by cd-rw issue?12:53
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skalpeli never had any of these problems in windows, i burned several cd-rw discs before switching to ubuntu12:53
crimsunskalpel: as in the cd-rw you used isn't blank or is closed.12:53
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skalpelcrimsun: how do i blank a disc (i already did this in gnomebaker but iw ill try it again)12:54
crimsunskalpel: it's in the instructions.12:54
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kaffeendI just tried to download this game, and all I got was a page full of text that starts with: #!/bin/sh12:54
kaffeend# This script was generated using Makeself 2.1.112:54
kaffeendCRCsum="1634970702"12:54
kaffeendMD5="f76b8599439dd882a52ba038d4700edc"12:54
kaffeendTMPROOT=${TMPDIR:=/tmp}12:54
crimsunuse -help or --help12:54
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kaffeenddoes anyone know what I'm meant to do with it?12:54
Seveaskaffeend, save that as runme.sh12:54
thoreauputickaffeend: it's a script12:54
kaffeendokies12:54
pc19seveas: how do i install printer thru network?12:54
Seveaskaffeend, then type chmod +x runme.sh12:54
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kaffeendcool12:54
black_Nightmarehey there12:54
Ozziejcrimsun, minion.de doesnt provide the patches anymore12:54
Seveaskaffeend, then type ./runme.sh12:54
black_Nightmarejust wondering but there any audio player with ubuntu itself?12:55
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Seveaspc19, system->administration->printing12:55
Squallthoreauputic: im still stuck. i did ctrl+d and got to the login prompt?12:55
crimsunOzziej: http://sh.nu/download/nvidia/linux-2.6/12:55
Seveaspc19, printer-> add printer12:55
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Seveaspc19, then choose network printer12:55
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skalpelcrimsun: when i try to blank the disc i get this error: drecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.12:55
bolshNightmare...12:55
Seveasand select the type of it and type its name12:55
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crimsunskalpel: are you using dev=/dev/hdc ?12:56
thoreauputicSquall: that's odd - I just booted frome recovery mode here on another old machine and got a root prompt12:56
black_Nightmarebolsh yes?12:56
bolshI just want stuff to work... how many mac keyboard layouts are there for French?12:56
Ozziejthanx crimsun12:56
skalpeli am now.12:56
bolshblack_Nightmare, Not you, this keyboard configuration problem :)12:56
thoreauputicSquall: you know what a root prompt looks like, I assume?12:56
kaffeendokay, this time I wrote those things down in gedit ;)12:56
black_Nightmarelol12:56
kaffeendso I won't have to ask again12:56
black_Nightmareanyone?12:56
bolshThe keyboard configuration application keeps dying on me if I choose any of the alternative French layouts12:56
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luipeople, I can't play mp3's with Rhythmbox 0.8.812:57
thoreauputicSquall: did you hit <escape> to get the grub menu ?12:57
Ozziejoke, i'll try installing the drivers again12:57
Ozziejbrb12:57
bolshThe default GFrench layout with Mac keyboard looks great in the graphical preview, but the keys don't match12:57
Squallthoreauputic: tryping what i saw: give root password for maintenance or type contral-d for normal starup:12:57
luianyone knows why?12:57
Squallso i did ctrl-d12:57
Squalli f*cked up?12:57
thoreauputicSquall: is this hoary?12:57
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Squallthoreauputic: warty12:58
luiit tells me i haven't a pluggin for mp3 installed but the system seems ok12:58
Seveaslui, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad12:58
luiok Seveas. let me try that12:58
Squalli dont have any hoary install cd12:58
Squallso i just net upgrade it usualy12:58
Squall:>12:58
thoreauputicSquall: hmmm - not sure what the default behaviour is for warty - for hoary recovery mode gives  a root prompt12:58
skalpelcrimsun: i get this message: cdrecord: Drive needs to reload the media to return to proper status.12:58
kaffeendalso - whenever I drag a window it leaves an ugly trail of it's own image wherever I drag it and I can't read anything... does anyone else have this problem?12:58
skalpelcrimsun: and then it opens the drawer and then closes it before writing12:59
crimsunskalpel: then you need to follow those directions. Sorry, I'm busy.12:59
black_NightmareI need to ask because I need to run a disc cleaner and I have to specific an audio player to run track 112:59
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pc19seveas: i will use windows printer: SMB12:59
Squallanyone else has any idea how to recover password on warty?12:59
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pc19seveas: what will i put in host?01:00
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Seveaspc19, the IP address of the machine that the printer is connected to01:00
luiSeveas: it shows me this msg >>>  Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gstreamer0.8-mad"01:00
luiNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.01:00
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Seveaslui, you might need to enable universe01:00
Squalllooks like reinstalling is the only option01:00
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Joose^hi again...01:01
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luiand how can I do that?01:01
Ozziejcrimsun, i got another error this time, ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'01:01
crimsunOzziej: look at the installer log. Sorry, I'm very busy atm.01:01
black_Nightmareanother Q..is there a probe for to see a full table of the res/etc your card could do?01:01
kaffeendhow do I stop this graphics problem please?01:01
thoreauputicSquall: if you can chroot from a live CD you should be able to fix it01:01
Joose^how i can listen mp3 files on totem?01:01
jasoncohengregg_, well the CPU doesn't appear to be the problem. i've already run through 6 tests over 40 minutes01:01
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jasoncohengregg_, 3 1024K passes and 3 8K passes, now doing 10K01:02
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Squallthoreauputic: only live cd is hoary and i cant boot it on a p1 with 64mb with any speed :>01:02
thoreauputicJoose^: install gstreamer0.8-mad01:02
Joose^how?01:02
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pc19seveas: im on dhcp, so how do i do that?01:02
jasoncohengregg_, it doesn't even appear to have slowed down the machine - cpu usage is 100% but it still runs fine01:02
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kaffeendhow do I stop this graphics problem please? where I drag the window and it paints itself all over the screen?01:03
StormxGAH01:03
StormxGuys...01:03
Seveaspc19, the windows machine name may work too01:03
StormxHow do you make Nautilus actually show hidden files.......01:03
luiSeveas: what is that universe you told me?01:03
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StormxI've checked the god damn "show hidden and system files" box01:03
Stormxbut no.01:03
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Joose^how i install gstreamer0.8-mad, please a newbie01:03
pc19seveas: driver is not on the list01:04
Joose^i am a newbie01:04
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thoreauputicSquall: you might be able to use the install CD as a rescue disc - I forget the exact way but when it starts you can press F1 or F2 or something to get a list of options01:04
StormxApplications > System Tools > Add / Remove Programs01:04
kaffeend!multimedia01:04
ubotufrom memory, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia01:04
StormxPress "Advanced"01:04
Seveaslui, did you ever change /etc/apt/sources.list yourself?01:04
SeveasJoose^, enable universe01:04
Squallthoreauputic: ok will try. thx01:04
StormxHey Seveas: Nautilus won't let me see hidden files.01:04
SeveasStormx, the bastard :)01:05
Joose^Seveas umm? sorry i don't understand.. :P01:05
StormxYep01:05
luiSeveas: no man I don't01:05
StormxHe's damn evil01:05
Seveaslui, great, make it easy :)01:05
Stormxis there so way I can tempt him into letting me see them?01:05
Squallthoreauputic: btw do you by any chance know if ubuntu has fluxbox .deb`s?01:05
Seveaslui, type this command:01:05
skalpelhow do i set the startup size for my gnome-terminal?01:05
Seveaslui: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list01:05
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thoreauputicJoose^: read the URL ubotu will spit out below01:05
thoreauputic!repos01:05
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:05
StormxYo Seveas, any suggestions?01:05
Seveaslui, then you do sudo apt-get update01:05
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Stormx!MAKE NAUTILUS WORK DAMN YOU01:05
Seveasand you can install it :)01:05
ubotuStormx: Are you smoking crack?01:05
SuperIDthere are no packages for linmodem?01:05
thoreauputicSquall: yes, it does, in universe01:06
SeveasStormx, chill....01:06
SuperID!linmodem01:06
ubotuSuperID: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:06
Stormxlol01:06
Squallgreat01:06
Squallthx01:06
StormxI just wanted to see what it would do ;-)01:06
StormxNo but really...01:06
Joose^i download the gstreamer0.8.10 but i don't how instal lit01:06
Stormxhow do i get it to show em.01:06
luiSeveas: ok man thanks!, let me try that now.01:06
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Seveasdunno Stormx, works fine here...01:06
Stormx_ its crazy01:06
SeveasJoose^, you don't01:06
kaffeendCan anyone please help me... Whenever5 I drag a window it leaves a smudge of it's own image all over my monitor! What can I do to fix it please?01:06
SeveasJoose^, you install stuff via the package manager01:06
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Seveasnot by randomly downloading things01:07
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Joose^Seveas terminal not?01:07
jason_anyone know how i get the ncurses network setup again after i've already installed?01:07
jason_is there a package i can reconfigure?01:07
StormxIt must be demanding being omniscient eh Seveas? ;-)01:07
Seveasjason_, base-config01:07
jason_Seveas: thx01:07
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SeveasJoose^, did you ever edit /etc/apt/sources.list yourself?01:07
jason_i tried netbase...01:08
bolshAnother most annoying problem is that in the gdm screen, the keyboard layout stays US which is awfully annoying of you have an azerty keyboard01:08
kaffeendStormx not to mention constantly awake!01:08
Joose^Seveas no01:08
SeveasJoose^, great, that makes it easy :01:08
Seveas:)01:08
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SeveasJoose^: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list01:08
SeveasJoose^: sudo apt-get update01:08
SeveasJoose^: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad01:08
Seveasthere - gstreamer0.8 in 3 easy commands :)01:09
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Joose^Seveas but i am no on ubuntu01:09
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penticlexI cant compile wine WTF01:10
SeveasJoose^, then write down these commands :)01:10
thoreauputicJoose^: well get on ubuntu so you can do commands - hard to help you otherwise01:10
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StormxxD01:10
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SeveasJoose^, do you have an internet connection when you're on Ubuntu?01:10
thoreauputicpenticlex: you don't need to compile wine - it's in the repositories01:11
thoreauputic!info wine01:11
skalpelcan someone help me write a cd onthe command line?01:11
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB01:11
Joose^Seveas xD i tried to find the driver to my modem01:11
Razor-Xand the version in the repositories is pretty nice01:11
penticlexnot for the 64 bit ver01:11
Razor-Xskalpel: ``man cdrecord'' for details on how to use cdrecord01:11
Stormxskalpel: Its cd record01:11
Stormx*cdrecord01:11
Joose^Seveas it's a Intel 537EP01:11
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thoreauputicpenticlex: does a 64 bit version even exist?01:11
SeveasJoose^, ah, if you have no internet connection it's a bit different....01:11
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Stormx!into ubotu01:12
ubotuI don't know, Stormx01:12
Joose^and i cann't configure it01:12
Stormx!info ubuntu01:12
Stormxpackage "ubuntu" does not exist ;-)01:12
penticlexC compiler cannot create executables01:12
Squallcant find anything smart here01:12
crimsunpenticlex: install build-essential01:12
Joose^Seveas can u help me how to configured my modem to connect for dial-up unless01:12
Squalloverwriting system01:12
SeveasJoose^, i'm afraid i can't01:13
thoreauputicpenticlex: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:13
penticlexno the package doesnt exist thats why I am trying to compile it01:13
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Joose^Seveas xD01:13
Stormxhah01:13
Seveasnot on my own pc's at least...01:13
StormxI have01:13
Joose^:P01:13
Stormxits like trying to push a fat person off a cliff01:13
kaffeendcan someone please help me with this graphics DYSFUNCTION please???01:13
Stormxwhat happened?01:13
Joose^i have to buy broand band now!01:14
Joose^:P01:14
puffHm.01:14
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bolshkaffeend, sorry, I'm stuck in my keyboard problem...01:14
penticlexno the package doesnt exist thats why I am trying to compile it01:14
luiSeveas: I have done the apt-get update. And now? "$sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad"?01:14
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kaffeendhmmm...01:14
mikeanyone here good with mysql?01:14
Seveaslui, yup01:14
Seveasmike, I know my way around it01:15
luiok.. here I go...!01:15
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penticlexI did sudo apt-get install build-essential and still getting same err01:15
kaffeendmy windows are refreshing themselves onto previous pages01:15
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smykesare there any musicians in the channel?01:15
thoreauputiclui: without the $ of course :)01:15
Seveaspenticlex, what are you compiling?01:15
bolshmike, depends. What do you need?01:15
mikeSeveas, i'm getting an error stating that Warning: mysql_connect(): Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL01:15
penticlexwine01:15
kaffeendit takes 5 minutes for a window to close or minimise01:15
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mikethis is my code in php01:15
kaffeendit's turning into a Windows machine01:16
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Seveasmike, so you have a mysql server installed on your machine?01:16
bolshmike, You need to grant yourself permission to connect from loxcalhost.localdomain01:16
kaffeendfuck!01:16
penticlexthe config.log states I nead lgcc01:16
luiSeveas: Done man!01:16
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penticlexbut I cant find it01:16
mikedb_connect($sql_host, $sql_user, $sql_password, $sql_db);01:16
mikei thought i did that01:16
Seveaspenticlex, grab wine from the repositories01:16
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bolshmike, With the mysql client connect wuth mysql -uroot -p01:16
thoreauputicSeveas: he's on amd6401:16
luiSeveas: now I can play MP3's?01:17
bolshwrite the mysql root password you set before01:17
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penticlexI nead the 64 bit ver01:17
Seveasthoreauputic, oh....01:17
bolshthen "use mysql"01:17
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Seveaslui, with totem and rhythbox you can now play mp3s01:17
bolshand "grant all to  on localhost.localdomain;"01:17
kaffeendwhen my windows finally minimize they leave black squares all over the desktop01:17
bolshthat  is supposed to be a * I'm having keyboard layout issues01:17
Seveasbolsh, by default mysql has root without password :)01:17
luijejeje, let's see...01:17
bolshSeveas, Yes01:18
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thoreauputickaffeend:  :((   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:18
thoreauputickaffeend: sounds weird01:18
mikebolsh, i did that01:18
subterrificdpkg-reconfigure base-config did not work :(01:18
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puffHm... so i installed the java 1.5 JDK, went like a charm, but I need to work on some 1.4.2 code, specifically i just need to get it compiled to 1.4.2 so i can deploy it and fix something.01:18
kaffeendwhat's that for?01:18
mikemysql> grant all to * on localhost.localdomain01:18
puffBut it's giving me "No matching plugin was found"01:19
puffDoing the whole java-package fakeroot make-package thing.01:19
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thoreauputickaffeend: to reconfigure your graphics, in inaccurate and simple terms01:19
Seveaspuff, odd, works fine here01:19
yorey alle gassies01:19
skalpelwhat does this error mean when trying to burn a disc? Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 001:19
skalpelSense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x001:19
skalpelSense flags: Blk 0 (valid)01:19
kaffeendthoreauputic ok thanks - will give it a shot01:19
yorey guise01:19
Seveasyor, this is an english channel...01:20
HrdwrBoBskalpel: it means something went wrong01:20
yoro sorry01:20
thoreauputickaffeend: something is deeply wrong, clearly01:20
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skalpelhrdwrbob: any idea what? i kow it only does thsi when i use cd-rw, but that is it01:20
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hmrochahi, i'm using breezy, it's working almost fine01:20
hmrochawhen i start gnome, it shows an error about my keyboard01:21
HrdwrBoBskalpel: not sure01:21
thoreauputickaffeend: the only other reason for that kind of behaviour I can think of is if something is hogging your resources01:21
hmrochaand openoffice doesn't run anymore01:21
HrdwrBoBskalpel: easiest way to avoid it, don't use CD-RW :)01:21
HrdwrBoBI never used them anyway01:21
mikeerm, actually says this01:21
mikeERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'to * on localhost.localdomain01:21
luiSeveas: man, you're my hero!! jejejejeje ;-)01:21
yordo enybody know if somody can go prifet??01:21
HrdwrBoBmike: yeah it's wrong iirc, isn't the syntax user%host ?01:21
hmrochado you know any quick fixes for the keyboard error?01:22
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windexyor, your sentence just managed to break my mind.01:22
thoreauputichmrocha: if breezy breaks you get to keep the pieces :) See /topic01:22
Seveasyor what do you need?01:22
puffSeveas: On 1.4.2?01:22
Seveaspuff, yup01:22
HrdwrBoBwindex: he wants to ask a question privately01:22
HrdwrBoByor: in the channel is fine01:22
kaffeendthoreauputic what should I do for the busid?01:22
hmrochathoreauputic, X is working fine01:22
SeveasI need it too since I'm forced to use broken software for my work that does not compile with 1.501:22
puffHm... did you have 1.5 installed at all?01:22
yori wannaknow if i can tolk prifet whit someone01:22
Seveasyor, about what?01:22
mikeHrdwrBoB, with user@ still has the error01:22
thoreauputickaffeend: just hit enter01:22
yori don't know01:22
kaffeendk01:22
skalpelyor: i like coffee01:23
yorme 201:23
Seveasyor, this is a support channel for ubuntu linux, if you want to talk about other things, go somewhere else01:23
windexHrdwrBoB, your english parser is evidently much more effective as gibberish dialects.01:23
kaffeenddamn - now bus identifier!!!01:23
yoroke01:23
yorbut i don't know mush about ubunto01:23
thoreauputickaffeend: hit enter again01:23
kaffeendjust keep hittion it?01:24
luiSeveas: thank you very much01:24
Seveaslui, yw01:24
thoreauputickaffeend: no, answer the questions you can01:24
CarmenSandieg1Oh what tangled webs we weave! :-D01:24
hmrochado you know if gnumeric opens ms excel file format?01:24
thoreauputickaffeend: I assume you know your hardware?01:24
kaffeendyep01:25
windexhmrocha, i beleive it does. open office most certianly does.01:25
kaffeendto a point - I built the bastard01:25
hmrochawindex, open office is not working in breezy01:25
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kaffeendwell, I'm giving myself more vid ram while I have the chance!01:25
thoreauputickaffeend: choose the driver carefully - if the default is right just go with it though01:25
hmrochai'll try gnumeric01:25
windexhmrocha, sounds like if you're running breezy not having productivity applications is the least of your problems. :)01:25
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skalpelis it common for small mp3 files i burn to a cd-rw disc in data format to all be over 7 mb, some as large as 21 mb?01:26
kaffeendok - now what's 128 meg in kb plz?01:26
Seveas!128*102401:26
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ubotu13107201:26
puffSo i tried just invoking the bin, figure I'll unpack it, set the environment variables myself, compile the code and move on ith my life.01:26
kaffeend1280?01:26
puff./j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:26
Seveas^--kaffeend01:26
yorcan i have enybody's e mail??????????????????01:26
thoreauputickaffeend: see ubotu above01:26
Seveaspuff, wait a bit :)01:27
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thoreauputickaffeend: Seveas got the bot to do it01:27
puffSeveas: Come again?01:27
kaffeendnice bot we got here01:27
Seveasi'm searching for my java 1.4 deb :)01:27
puffAh.01:27
equexack gotta reconfigure x again01:27
kaffeendthanks seveas01:27
puffThat would be cool :-).01:27
Seveasdunno on which server I put it01:27
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Seveasso i'm running updatedb's all over the place :)01:27
yorcan i have enybody's email??01:27
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Goodspeedhow do i add a module for startup in terminal?01:27
kaffeenduse kernel frame buffer?01:28
puffI was trying to get java for mozilla working, wonder if that could be gumming it up.01:28
SeveasGoodspeed, you meen a kernel module?01:28
thoreauputicGoodspeed: sudo nano /etc/modules01:28
puffCan probalby just un-apt that.01:28
Goodspeedsure i want to add fglrx01:28
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hmrochawindex, i don't use openoffice to write documents, i use LaTeX01:28
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hmrochawindex, i just want open office to open the schedule for this semester01:28
windexhmrocha, i am not sure if i should be impressed or scared. :)01:29
Razor-Xhmrocha: excellent ;)01:29
kaffeendthoreauputic do I use the kernel frame buffer?01:29
Razor-Xwindex: I use LaTeX myself01:29
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thoreauputickaffeend: do you have a crt ?01:29
kaffeendyep01:29
hmrochawindex, they created the schedules in MS Excel :(01:29
Razor-Xi'm reading Lamport's LaTeX - A Document Preparation System, right now01:29
windexbeing as i can get my printer to work properly and fonts seem to look like crap at the moment, i'm going to assume the magic solution to that is to use latex. :)01:29
Razor-Xhmrocha: Spreadsheets are attrocious in LaTeX01:29
thoreauputickaffeend: well, choose the safe option - it shouldn't matter much01:29
kaffeendk01:29
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Razor-Xwindex: well, LaTeX can be converted to a PDF, so try and print a PDF file01:30
hmrochaRazor-X, latex is not for spreadsheets01:30
Seveaspuff, currently rebuilding the .deb :)01:30
Razor-Xhmrocha: I know, it's still attrocious ;)01:30
windexRazor-X, dosen't work either.01:30
Razor-XI tried LaTeXss, but that was just as bad01:30
voldomaztahello.. how do i login as root on ubuntu01:30
Razor-Xwindex: then i'm pretty sure it's the printer driver01:30
voldomaztajust did a fresh install01:31
Razor-X!tell voldomazta about root01:31
voldomaztath01:31
voldomaztathx01:31
subterrificSeveas: thx for the help, but running base-config didn't ask me any networking questions01:31
windexRazor-X, me too. i think its a combination of my printer driver and the printer's network stack postscript engine.01:31
Seveassubterrific, hmm01:31
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Razor-Xwindex: yeah, if the postscript engine's busted than, meh01:31
Razor-Xs/than/then/01:31
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windexRazor-X, the real issue is that the fonts openoffice uses as equivilant to windows fonts for documents look awful. :) example: franklin gothic medium01:31
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Razor-Xthoreauputic: that's not the End User's way ;)01:32
hmrochait worked, gnumeric opened the XLS file01:32
puffj2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: cannot execute binary file01:32
puffSeveas: Ah, thank you.01:32
thoreauputicRazor-X: so it seems01:32
Seveaspuff, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/sun-j2sdk1.4_1.4.2+08_i386.deb01:32
puffSeveas: Very, very much.01:32
Razor-Xwindex: good thing about LaTeX, is that it's device independant01:32
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windexRazor-X, printing would still require you to convert it to postscript which my printer would invariably mangle.01:32
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Seveas\end{problems} \begin{LaTeX}01:32
Razor-Xany time LPR prints something, it comes out pretty bad, here01:33
hmrochaSeveas, :D01:33
Razor-XSeveas: ;)01:33
thoreauputicRazor-X: the root/sudo message should be in BIG RED letters01:33
Razor-Xthoreauputic: yeah, it really should01:33
Razor-XPDFs print fine though, I don't know why lpr is being stupid01:33
Razor-Xand the lpr man page sucks01:33
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Razor-XI think it's printing to default A4 paper, I set Opera to remedy that, but other applications don't01:34
thoreauputickaffeend: how goes the battle?01:34
Razor-Xhmrocha: that's the reason I didn't buy the wireless version of my trackball01:34
kaffeendbit tedious01:34
kaffeendup to my mouse now01:34
thoreauputick01:34
kaffeendall is going well01:34
Razor-Xdoes lpr have a conf file, or something which I can use to get it to default to letterpaper?01:34
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^thehatsrule^lol kaffeend: if you want, join #WolfET <-- its my et chan01:35
Razor-XI love KDE's DVI and PDF viewer, so feature-rich ;)01:35
hmrochaRazor-X, wireless rocks :)01:35
thoreauputic^thehatsrule^: I think he's a bit preoccupied right now ;)01:35
Razor-Xhmrocha: waste of batteries, IMO01:35
kaffeend^thehatsrule^ thanks dude01:35
equexdpkg --remove fglrx should remove the fglrx drivers right ?01:35
^thehatsrule^thoreauputic hehe ;p01:35
^thehatsrule^brb01:36
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hmrochaRazor-X, they're rechargeable01:36
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Razor-Xhmrocha: batteries == money ;)01:37
hmrochaRazor-X, you only have to buy them once01:37
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Razor-Xmaybe when I make my own income, that'll change but, till then, meh01:37
kaffeendthoreauputic what should I do with this X.org server modules? all are prechecked except GLcore and v4L01:37
SeveasRazor-X, rechargeable batteries ;)01:38
thoreauputickaffeend: I'd leave it alone and move on01:38
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kaffeendhmmm... but GL isn't Open GL?01:38
thoreauputickaffeend: note that you can rerun this any time later provided you haven't messed with /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually01:38
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puffSeveas: Oh for god's sake... just realized the source of the problem.  Sun's "download j2 sdk" link took me to a "download j2ee" page...01:39
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Seveasrofl01:39
thoreauputickaffeend: probably should have asked if you already have...01:39
puffSeveas: Downloading the *right* package now.01:39
kaffeendoops01:39
phixioncan anyone explain to me what Samba is? :)01:39
kaffeendlol01:39
Seveaspuff, you can just use my .deb :)01:39
windexpuff, sun loves you.01:39
kaffeendI did01:39
Razor-Xphixion: it's the UNIX implementation of SMB01:39
thoreauputickaffeend: you did, right? :(01:39
kaffeendbut cancelled at first screen01:39
thoreauputickaffeend: oh dear01:39
Raf999phixion - linux version of file and printer sharing.01:40
windexphixion, its easier to think about as a compatibility layer to windows file and printer sharing.01:40
thoreauputickaffeend: did you save changes?01:40
phixionaha01:40
phixionso I can use samba to allow my windows pc to access my linux pc files?01:40
Razor-Xnobody knows what SMB is, do they? ;)01:40
thoreauputickaffeend: when you edited the file before?01:40
kaffeendno I'm a n00b why would I save anything? lmao01:40
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squinnRazor-X, "samba"01:40
thoreauputickaffeend: heheh01:40
Razor-Xphixion: yeah01:40
phixionah cool01:40
phixionthanks guys01:40
Razor-Xsquinn: SMB came before Samba (IIRC), SMB is the protocol, Samba is the implementation01:41
hmrochaSMB is nowadays called CIFS01:41
HrdwrBoByes01:41
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hmrochaso you might want to search for CIFS instead of SMB01:41
windexand is not even remotely the same as SMB.01:41
Seveascreepy idiotic file system?01:41
squinnah ok01:41
squinnright, thought so01:41
Razor-XSeveas: ;)01:41
hmrochaSeveas, exactly01:41
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HrdwrBoBcommon internet filing system (HA!)01:42
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pc19thanks seveas01:42
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kaffeendthoreauputic I'm up to video modes :s01:42
pc19installed now01:42
thoreauputickaffeend: soldier on :)01:42
sun_I'm having trouble getting my SB Live 5.1 card working in ubuntu...01:42
pc19i just went to hp for infos01:42
kaffeenddon't know what I'm doing now01:42
pc19laters seveas. u made my migration easier01:43
kaffeendare these screen sizes??01:43
thoreauputickaffeend: when in doubt, accept defaults01:43
sun_it shows up with modprobe, but i can't get alsamixer to control it01:43
kaffeend1920x1440?01:43
thoreauputickaffeend: do you know what resolution your screen is capable of?01:43
kaffeend1600x1200 I thought but I'll check that01:44
kaffeendyep - 1600x1200 but at 60hz01:44
sun_did anyone have to rebuild ALSA for their SB Live card?01:44
kaffeendI normally run 1024x768 85hz01:45
thoreauputickaffeend: well, choose that then01:45
penticlexjre01:45
penticlexoops01:45
crimsunsun_: lspci -v|grep udio01:45
kaffeendbut it stops at 1200x160001:45
thoreauputickaffeend: arrow down01:45
thoreauputickaffeend: should be more01:46
kaffeendhaha01:46
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kaffeendso there were all checked!01:46
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thoreauputickaffeend: that's OK01:46
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crimsunsun_: alsamixer -c101:47
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Zodiachello01:47
kaffeendnow I'm at horizontal sync range again01:47
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kaffeendman I just set allthis too01:47
ZodiacTo whomever recommended k3b last night, thanx! It worked great :)01:48
thoreauputickaffeend: make sure you get the sync rates right01:48
kaffeendcan't remember what it was tho maybe 30-200?01:48
kaffeendhmmm...01:48
thoreauputickaffeend: do you have the monitor manual? Look it up01:48
thoreauputickaffeend: or consult the manufacturer's website01:49
kaffeendcame with cd but no manual01:49
thoreauputickaffeend: website then01:49
kaffeendwebsite will do me I think01:49
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Razor-Xwoohoo! ;)01:50
Razor-XI fixed my lpr problem01:50
phixionanyone fancy helping me with a simple samba config file? I just want to allow my Windows PC to access my Ubuntu box :E01:50
[Spooky] whats a good DC client for linux ?01:51
phixionDC++ :)01:51
phixiontheres a howto on ubuntuforums01:51
[Spooky] ok01:51
ZodiacWhat do you guys use to bump beats?01:51
Razor-Xphixion: you can compile DC++ to work?01:51
Razor-XZodiac: ``bump beats'' is pretty vague ;)01:51
Razor-XMIDI Sequencing, Tracking, Recoding01:52
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ZodiacThere was a thing on Ubuntu world  with "Amarok" on it, but is it that much better than the standard Ubunuty software??01:52
thrice`it's linux...of course you can compile01:52
Razor-XMuxing, transcoding ;)01:52
thrice`yes01:52
phixionyes Razor-X01:52
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Razor-Xphixion: no usage of WINE, right?01:52
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thoreauputicZodiac: amarok is pretty cool, and available in the repos01:52
phixionright :)01:52
Razor-Xcool ;)01:52
Zodiacis it that much better than "ryhthmbox"??01:53
Razor-XI guess i'm not up to date on my slang ;) (and i'm 15)01:53
Razor-XI use cplay myself01:53
thoreauputicZodiac: IMO yes01:53
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cafuegoZodiac: Best depends on what you want from it. You can only find out by trying them all.01:53
thoreauputicZodiac: among other things, it allows you to edit tags01:53
Razor-Xnice and light01:53
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[Spooky] phixion: you have any adress ?01:54
Zodiaccplay?01:54
ZodiacNever heard of it01:54
thoreauputicRazor-X: cplay is nice:)01:54
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Zodiacbut I guess you are right, I should just try them01:54
Razor-XZodiac: it's a command-line music player01:54
Zodiacha ha01:54
Zodiacoh man01:55
thoreauputicZodiac: it's a terminal based player (cplay)01:55
Zodiacnevermind :)01:55
Razor-XZodiac: characters scare you? ;)01:55
ZodiacYES!01:55
Razor-Xit plays music in a nice, clean interface01:55
ZodiacA lot01:55
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thoreauputicZodiac: cplay is *not* scary :)01:55
Zodiach aha01:55
ZodiacI know01:55
Razor-XZodiac: what about the small fraction of human who learn by reading, and not pictures? ;)01:55
Razor-Xcplay has no prompts, actually01:56
CarmenSandieg1Is AMD "better than" Intel?01:56
ZodiacYOur right01:56
ZodiacI will try it01:56
Razor-Xand hitting `h' in the program explains it all01:56
Razor-XCarmenSandieg1: miles01:56
cafuegoCarmenSandieg1: For some things, yes. Well, most things ;-)01:56
SeveasCarmenSandieg1, no01:56
thoreauputicRazor-X: losing battle - the indoctrination is too strong ;)01:56
Seveasnot by a long shot01:56
Razor-Xyou get more bang for the buck buying the same AMD compared to the same Intel01:56
cafuegoCarmenSandieg1: if you want a faster copu at a lower price, then amd is better.01:56
ZodiacI use AMD... I like  it01:56
cafuegoCarmenSandieg1: Same for if you want a 64bit cpu.01:56
CarmenSandieg1Cafuego, are you inferring overclocking?01:56
Seveascafuego, only if you take clock speed as the only measure :)01:57
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phixion[Spooky] , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc01:57
Razor-Xnot only _that_, but if you want to overclock, AMD is barnone01:57
cafuegoCarmenSandieg1: No, AMD64's outperform Intel CPUs that run at higher clockrates.01:57
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cafuegoSeveas: Eh?01:57
HrdwrBoBathlon64 > pentium4 .. that's pretty much all there is to know01:57
HrdwrBoBthough the p4 does better at a few things01:58
SeveasHrdwrBoB, except that its plain wrong and comparing apples with pears...01:58
HrdwrBoBbut at the server level opteron vs xeon it's not even close01:58
HrdwrBoBSeveas: no, it's not01:58
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Yeah, but then it costs you twice as much :-)01:58
phixionHow do i access my PC from the windows computer with samba?01:58
HrdwrBoBcafuego: not according to my pricing01:58
Funzoim running an athlon64... how does it compare under x86 OSs01:58
thoreauputic!samba01:58
ubotusomebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba01:58
kaffeendokay I'm stuck now - damn website said fuck all... they had a manual written in korean or whatever but still had no refresh rates etc01:58
HrdwrBoBSeveas: they're both x86 CPUs01:58
kaffeendjust features01:58
HrdwrBoBSeveas: aimed at the same market for the same reasons01:58
thoreauputicphixion: ^^^01:58
HrdwrBoBSeveas: therefore are completely comparable01:58
cafuegoFunzo: My 1.8GHz amd64 runs a *lot* faster then my 2GHz AthlonXP.01:58
SeveasHrdwrBoB, amd64 != x86...01:58
phixionthanks alot thoreauputic01:58
thoreauputicphixion: no worries :)01:59
HrdwrBoBSeveas: irrelevant01:59
SeveasHrdwrBoB, muhahahahah01:59
Funzocafuego: but athlonXP is slower than p4... i think (correct me if im wrong) :)01:59
cafuegoSeveas: I expect 90% or more of all amd64's just run 32bit OSes.01:59
HrdwrBoBSeveas: it doesn't mean they're not comparable01:59
cafuegoFunzo: A bit, yep./01:59
cafuegoFunzo: Then again, they're half the price.01:59
kaffeendhoping for good things from my 2.3ghz AMD athlon 64 ;)02:00
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Funzoal lot of people cant upgrade yet as they run windows and drivers arent released yet02:00
thoreauputickaffeend: progress?02:00
HrdwrBoBI run x86 ubuntu on my amd6402:01
kaffeendthoreauputic nope02:01
thoreauputickaffeend: ?02:01
HrdwrBoBbecause it means that running cedega, win32codecs, flash, etc is easier02:01
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HrdwrBoB(and in some cases possible)02:01
kaffeendstopped dead when I couldn't read korean02:01
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Funzoanyways does anybody know and good apt-get sources I can use to get mainstream 64bit software compatible with ubuntu02:01
thoreauputickaffeend: ah - website?02:01
kaffeendhad to look in the archives for my monitor which is last years model02:02
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kaffeendhttp://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/support/b2c_support_query_results.jsp?BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%401581126107.1123199573%40%40%40%40&BV_EngineID=cccdaddffmegefdcfejceefdfggdhgm.0&keyWord=syncmaster+785+mb#02:02
thoreauputickaffeend: the info has to be out there - google knows all... erm.. I hope02:02
kaffeendsame I'm looking now02:02
thoreauputickaffeend: omg that's an ugly URL !02:02
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kaffeendhehe I know02:03
kaffeendsorry02:03
kaffeendbut it'll take you right there02:03
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thoreauputickaffeend: so ... this applies only to the USA apparently02:05
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thoreauputickaffeend: you are in .au - is there not an aus distributor?02:06
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kaffeendnot a reliable one - no02:07
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thoreauputickaffeend: http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/index.asp02:07
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kaffeendthat's it - next monitor is LG02:07
thoreauputickaffeend: no use?02:07
[CJ] fLaRg3mine is iiyama02:07
[CJ] fLaRg3its great02:07
kaffeend1 sec bro02:07
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cafuegokaffeend: If no luck at the POS?02:08
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b0xenHey is ubuntu binary compatible with debian? What I mean to ask is that can I just take a .deb file meant for debian and install it in ubuntu?02:08
cafuegob0xen: That's not normally recommended; libc6 versions differ.02:09
kaffeendhaha... so close I was - thoreauputic it's here http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/crt/index.asp02:09
b0xenbah. but i'm so lazy :(02:09
cafuegob0xen: Then again, if there IS a depend issue, you'll be told by dpkg.02:09
thoreauputicheh - "Archived Monitors" == all crt monitors apparently02:09
kaffeendit's the big fucker right at the top of the screen02:09
kaffeendhahaha02:09
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cafuegob0xen: What package?02:09
kaffeendcafuego almost there ;)02:09
thoreauputickaffeend: erm - that's the URL I posted, isn't it??02:09
thoreauputicah Isee02:10
thoreauputiccrt02:10
cafuegohow quaint ;-)02:11
thoreauputickaffeend: yup - there 'tis in all its glory02:11
kaffeendthoreauputic one page on - and I now have the numbers! thanks mate!!!02:11
thoreauputickaffeend: :)02:11
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misfit_toyewwww02:12
kaffeendhaha02:12
thoreauputickaffeend: ewww02:12
vader1102heheh, I finally got my workgroup working, under Ubutu, what a pain that was lol02:12
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t35t0ranyone here have a winxp and linux machine with openoffice 1.1.4 (stable) ? can you please take a look at http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52924 ?02:13
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vader1102t35t0r: I just set it up on my wifes pc what's the prob?02:14
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t35t0rvader1102, take a look at that bug02:14
kaffeendfin02:14
_SWAT_This sometimes happens (like now). I keep a button pushed but it's only printed one time (in stead of keeping printed). Can anyone help me?02:14
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t35t0rvader1102, do you have winxp and linux machine with OOo1.1.4 to compare?02:14
vader1102looking02:14
vader1102yup02:14
kaffeendproblem solved!02:14
t35t0rvader1102, it's really annoying02:14
thoreauputickaffeend: I knew the "pages from Australia" option in google.com.au had a purpose - I just never found one before ;)02:14
thrice`misfit, what'd you use to burn ?02:14
HrdwrBoBthrice`: I use it all the time02:14
Marburganyone having troubles whith firefox in Ubunto ??02:14
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HrdwrBoBthoreauputic:02:14
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kaffeendthoreau neither lol02:15
HrdwrBoBthoreauputic: when I'm looking to buy things or information relationg to an australian person/business02:15
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thoreauputicHrdwrBoB: yeah i was kidding :)02:15
vader1102t350r: I have had no probs but only set it up tonight02:15
kaffeendOMG my screen looks fan bloody tastic!02:15
HrdwrBoBoh heh, I should really read back02:15
t35t0rvader1102, can you duplicate that bug?02:15
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BeatYouany web designers here? ones fluent in CSS layout design ?02:15
thoreauputickaffeend: yay!02:15
marius_hi02:15
HrdwrBoBso many times I've seen a grab, answered a question only to realise I missed something02:16
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HrdwrBoBBeatYou: google ffor OSWD02:16
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BeatYouHrdwrBoB, dont need help, would just like some feedback02:16
JomdomBeatYou, I'm a pretty experienced Web developer02:16
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vader1102I will do it later, right now working on customer pc02:16
phixionbah someone giv me a real basic samba config file :(02:16
t35t0rvader1102, i.e. is the rendering screwed up in linux like as i described?02:16
t35t0rvader1102, ok02:16
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: at 1015?02:16
thoreauputickaffeend: :D02:16
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kaffeendthoreauputic Thanks for all that help bud02:16
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HrdwrBoBphixion: /usr/doc/samba/02:17
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HrdwrBoBphixion: there's an example config in there02:17
thoreauputickaffeend: no problem mate02:17
kaffeendnow can we move onto mp3s?02:17
kaffeendhahaha02:17
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thoreauputic:)02:17
kaffeendlmao02:17
thrice`kaffeend, sure; apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad02:17
kaffeendno way man02:17
phixionHrdwrBoB, its quite complicated :)02:17
HrdwrBoBphixion: yeah02:17
kaffeendI'm gettin an ipod02:17
HrdwrBoBsamda does that02:17
Marburghow to configure apt-get to work whith proxy ?02:17
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: apt-get install gtkpod02:18
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BeatYouJomdom: http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm - you know CSS layout techniques, check out my source02:18
kaffeendnothing with install in it is any good to me until I get another cdrom drive02:18
thrice`kaffeend, why ?  apt-get uses network, not cd02:18
Jomdomlooks great (the design and the source)02:19
kaffeendoh I see02:19
cafuegokaffeend: Well, cdrom drives at least only cost 10% of what an iPod costs ;-)02:19
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kaffeendcafuego tru tru, but are there any as sexy?02:19
g|patrickat the moment i am using the live cd02:19
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g|patrickcould someone give me a link to that bashscript that detects my harddiscs?02:19
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cafuegokaffeend: A can of spray paint is even cheaper than the drive02:20
kaffeendin fact, for the cost of 2 iPods I could have a mac mini02:20
g|patricki know, that someone here hosts a site to this spefic script02:20
g|patrick:)02:20
cafuego!vfat02:20
ubotuvfat is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:20
cafuegog|patrick: That one?02:20
BeatYouhttp://dev.clsafety.com/workfiles/new_layout.jpg that is what im eventually working towards Jomdom02:20
g|patrickya...02:20
g|patrickthx :)02:20
thoreauputictime to split - happy podding kaffeend ;) See you all later!02:21
cafuegokaffeend: No, you will want 1GB of ram in that, which costs extra.02:21
kaffeendHrdwrBoB was there to be a sudo in front of that apt-get?02:21
Jomdomawesome - looks like your well on your way, Beat02:21
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: it was implied :)02:22
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HrdwrBoBI assumed you knew that already02:22
Jomdoma couple floats here and there, and you'll be set ;)02:22
kaffeendThoreauputic cya dude02:22
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kaffeenddoh02:22
PurpleMotionI love this new videoc ard02:22
BeatYouJomdom: yup, CSS has puzzled me for months, i finally buckled down and did it02:22
cafuegokaffeend: Where in .AU are you?02:22
PurpleMotionit has testicleeze02:22
kaffeendHrdwrBoB ok thanky you02:22
kaffeendcafuego Brisbane02:22
JomdomBeatYou: it's really great in the end02:22
HrdwrBoBbrisvegas02:22
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cafuegoAh ok, never mind then.02:22
kaffeendok02:23
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PurpleMotion{jay@psilocybin (~)}:$ fgl_glxgears\n 805 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.000 FPS02:23
JomdomBeatYou: better for everyone - the hard part is convincing table nuts to switch :)02:23
cafuegobut of course the traceroyte will be fast if i do it from my brisbane server <heh>02:23
BeatYouJomdom: yup, i was one haha02:23
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Jomdom:)02:23
Adrenlineanyone know of the easiest way to get smbmount for ubuntu?02:24
thrice`!samba02:24
cafuegoAdrenline: sudo apt-get install smbfs02:24
ubotuwell, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba02:24
PurpleMotionwhat's a really fun opengl game i can download and play? I wanna see this thing in action02:24
cafuego!lose thrice`02:24
ubotucafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:24
JomdomBeatYou: it really hurts when you are working for someone who has "designers" spitting out ugly dreamweaver table based layouts that you have to build web apps in02:24
cafuegoubotu: you broken02:24
ubotucafuego: I don't know, could you explain it?02:24
redguyhow do I get help on using ubotu?02:24
thrice`?02:24
kaffeendHrdwrBoB I get this: Reading package lists... Done02:24
kaffeendBuilding dependency tree... Done02:24
kaffeendE: Couldn't find package gtkpod02:24
Adrenlinecafuego, thanx :)02:24
thrice`kaffeend, you need to update your repositories02:24
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: have you enabled universe?02:24
kaffeendno02:25
BeatYouJomdom: you into a lot of PHP? Yea I will never go back to tables now man, everything is just way to easy without them02:25
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JomdomBeatYou: i'm a Ruby on Rails man now... PHP is like the tables of programming after using Rails :)02:25
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BeatYouhaha, Ive never heard of that at all02:25
Anon6833hi does the ubuntu live cd come with a  dvd burner software... i have no working main drive (have some dump drives that i refuse to format) in my computer but need to burn some info from here to a cd02:26
JomdomBeatYou: www.rubyonrails.com02:26
Anon6833cd should be replaced with dvd02:26
Jomdomyou can head over to #rubyonrails right here on FreeNode if you get interested ;)02:26
BeatYouits a programming language similar to pHP though?02:26
cafuegoAnon6833: Yes, but you'll need two cd/dvd drives then, you can't eject the livecd whilst running02:26
kaffeendwhere do I find Universe and Metaverse plz HrdwrBoB?02:26
JomdomRails is a framework built on Ruby (Ruby is the language)02:26
Anon6833cafuego yeah i have 3 drives... ok thanks02:26
BeatYouahhhh02:26
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abarbacciahey anybody here good with madwifi? i have a dwl-g520 with the atheros chipset - but can't seem to get madwifi to work02:27
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Syco54645_deadcafuego i will get the live cd now then thanks alot02:27
g|patrickthe script doesnt add reiser fs partions02:27
kaffeend!repositories02:27
ubotumethinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:27
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositor%2902:27
g|patrickhow has a reiserfs look like02:27
Syco54645_deadcafuego what program does it come with?02:27
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glickyo02:27
kaffeendbetter than bots choice - cheers02:27
HrdwrBoBor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories02:27
cafuegoSyco54645_dead: the gnome one; just insert a blank cd, then drag files to it.02:28
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: no it's the same thing :)02:28
cafuegoSyco54645_dead: When done, right-click and tell it to burn.02:28
Syco54645_deadcafuego ok thanks02:28
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BeatYouJomdom: im not into programming myself but deal with a lot of php based apps, my friend programs a lot though im sure hell get something out o fit02:29
haydenis there anything like expose for gnome?02:29
cafuegohayden: Not yet...02:29
subterrifichayden: there are a few things02:29
subterrifichayden: one called skippy i think02:30
Burgundaviahayden, skippy02:30
glicknothing beats pyton02:30
haydenyea, thanks ill check it out02:30
JomdomBeatYou: that's good to hear :)02:30
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glickpython is the be all and end all of languages02:30
cafuegoglick: I can name a whole bunch of sticks and cricket bats that beat python02:30
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cafuego"""I have bloody VB style comments02:31
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glickcafuego, for general computing pythons beauty, simplicy, elegance, and performance, and rapid development are difficult to suppercede02:31
glickcafuego, you dont have to use those02:31
Jomdomglick, speaking of python, have you looked into django? http://www.djangoproject.com/02:31
kaffeendyou know - this is actually quite easy02:31
cafuegoglick: I find it horrid, though. Worse then perl.02:31
abarbacciaanybody know how to unisntall the madwifi part of the linux-restricted-modules?02:31
glickperl is rediculous02:32
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glickJomdom, no i havent02:32
cafuegoglick: I rest my case ;-)02:32
Jomdomit looks very nifty :)02:32
glickJomdom, what is it02:32
Jomdoma Web app framework02:32
g|patrickwhat is notail meaning02:32
glickpython can even be compiled to java code02:33
glicki mean its beautiful02:33
cafuegog|patrick: a notail is a female.02:33
glickpython is everything java should have been but wasnt02:33
g|patrickcafuego, what does it mean in linux02:33
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crimsunglick: err, that's a bit misleading.02:33
cafuegog|patrick: Oh, you didn't mean league of gentlemen? ;-)02:33
g|patrick^^02:33
g|patrickurrrmm....02:33
g|patrickno :)02:33
kaffeend!mps02:34
ubotukaffeend: Are you smoking crack?02:34
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kaffeend!mp302:34
uboturumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support02:34
Goodspeedhow do i delete directories?02:34
kaffeendthat's better02:34
g|patrickshift del02:34
Madpilotpoetry02:34
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cafuegog|patrick: Looks like it's a reiserfs mount option to make it do less i/o02:35
Madpilotoops. guess I better change my login pass now...02:35
MadpilotI thought Screen Lock was on...02:35
cafuegog|patrick: Did you make the mistake of accidentally using reiserfs?02:35
g|patrickactually i am in livecd02:36
g|patricki have to mount reiserfs to access my data02:36
g|patrickbakcuptime!02:36
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cafuegog|patrick: http://linux.ucla.edu/pipermail/linux/2002-January/006253.html02:36
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Slipaway172ive been trying to figure this out? why do i like ubuntu over other distros? ubuntu is a little difficult to use on some tasks, but it is fast, stable, lots of software, excellent support. but i still dont know why i love ubuntu over easier distros. why do you like ubuntu so much?02:37
g|patrickwell, i simply need the fstab string02:37
g|patrickso that i can mount it02:37
cafuegog|patrick: mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdXY /mnt/point02:37
cafuegoDon't be difficult about it02:38
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g|patrick/dev/hda2 /media/hda2 reiserfs defaults 0 0 ?02:38
g|patrickwill that work?02:38
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cafuegog|patrick: Why not try?02:39
g|patrickweired02:39
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g|patrickits not listed in the overview02:40
cafuegog|patrick: why would you edit fstab on a livecd btw?02:40
Slipaway172editing the fstab on any live cd is almost useless02:41
g|patrickwell02:41
g|patrickthe ntfs drives were found by the script02:41
g|patrickand added to the fstab02:41
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g|patrickthose i can acces02:41
cafuegog|patrick: Until you reboot, sure.02:41
g|patrickya...02:41
g|patrickcafuego, i am on livecd02:41
g|patrickbackuping my data02:41
cafuegog|patrick: Just run mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda202:41
g|patrickand reinstalling my ubuntu afterwarts02:42
Slipaway172i ONLY edit mine when i backup data. mount my 2nd hard drive copy files and umount -a and edit the fstab to normal02:42
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haydenwhat is the best 'dock' app for gnome?02:43
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g|patrickmount -t reiserfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 <-- didnt worked02:43
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Slipaway172where did u get the music02:45
g|patrickallofmp3?02:45
Slipaway172illegal02:45
g|patrickallofmp3?02:45
HrdwrBoBallofmp3 is legal as fast as I'm concerned02:45
HrdwrBoBas a consumer02:45
g|patrickwho says thats illegal02:45
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HrdwrBoBbecause that's all that's important02:45
g|patrickthere are people that want see it illigal02:45
HrdwrBoBthey tell me it's legal02:45
nJesshow do i add the kernel module powernow-k8 to the bootup?02:45
HrdwrBoBI can't see proof otherwise02:45
glickwhats illigal?02:45
MadpilotSlipaway172: no, I own a lot of CDs, and have been ripping like crazy02:46
HrdwrBoBtherefore if it is illegal, I have been conned02:46
Slipaway172oh02:46
HrdwrBoBand if it's not, I have cheap music02:46
g|patrickglick, downloading movies02:46
g|patrickanime is a greyzone, if its NOT licensed02:46
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g|patrickbut in general its illigal to dl movies ;)02:46
glickg|patrick, how else am i supposed to watch movies for free on my computer?02:46
HrdwrBoBcopyright infringement is a very interesting area because in many cases (at least historically) it's not in fact illegal, it's a tort02:47
g|patrickbuying?02:47
HrdwrBoBand therefore civil02:47
HrdwrBoBrather than criminal02:47
Madpilotglick: your local library?02:47
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g|patrickwell.. how can i pay at allofmp3?02:47
HrdwrBoBit's not theft, and it never has been02:47
g|patricki have no creditcard02:47
HrdwrBoBg|patrick: paypal02:47
g|patrickhow much costs a paypalaccount?02:47
nJesshow do i add the kernel module powernow-k8 to the bootup?02:47
HrdwrBoBnothing02:47
g|patrickah...02:47
HrdwrBoBin any case02:47
Slipaway172if u like music of any sorts go to www.shoutcast.com02:47
glickthe random bits on my harddrive just happened to be the big lebowskie movie when i try to run it with mplayer02:47
HrdwrBoBthis is wildly offtopic02:47
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g|patrickpaypal is the ebay service, correct?02:48
nJessyeah it is02:48
HrdwrBoBglick: what a happy coincidence02:48
HrdwrBoBg|patrick: #ubuntu-offtopic02:48
nJesscan i have help then please? since this is kinda a help channel and all02:48
g|patrickok02:48
HrdwrBoBnJess: what's up02:48
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g|patricki still cant mount the hda2 and sb2 drives :(02:48
nJesshow do i add the kernel module powernow-k8 to the bootup?02:48
g|patrickboth are in /media02:48
g|patrickbut i can't mount them02:48
HrdwrBoBnJess: edit /etc/modules02:49
HrdwrBoBand put it in there02:49
HrdwrBoBit will then load automatically02:49
nJessthank you02:49
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HrdwrBoBno worries02:49
g|patricki need the correct string of fstab02:49
g|patricki wont see it in nautilus until its right there :(02:50
HrdwrBoBg|patrick: for what02:50
g|patrickright <-- i mean correct02:50
nJessim getting my brother's laptop ready for college02:50
nJesslinux seems to be the way to avoid virus and spyware for him02:50
Christinmy keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup02:50
g|patricki cant access hda2 although terminal says its mounted02:50
g|patrick:(02:50
equexPurpleMotion: can you paste me the url to your little GL recipe ? or the log perhaps ?02:50
HrdwrBoBnJess: ahh, the only way? I think I see what you mean :)02:51
equexi cleaned up some parts of X now02:51
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HrdwrBoBg|patrick: what do you mean you can't access it02:51
HrdwrBoBwhat actual error are you getting02:51
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Goodspeedhow do edit the menu at the top with applications places and sytem02:52
Goodspeeddo i need that menu editor thing?02:52
PurpleMotionequex: i can give you our log02:52
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equexthat would be nice, i will save the text this time02:52
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g|patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96402:53
rekaGoodspeed: yes. although iirc, you can't edit the system menu02:53
g|patricki need help...02:53
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g|patricki am wasting my time here02:53
g|patrickits almost 3.am and i still were unable to backup02:53
g|patrick:(02:54
Quest-Master:\02:54
g|patricki need access to my reiserfs partitions02:54
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chibifsg|patrick What's the problem?02:54
g|patricknautilus doesnt display them02:54
chibifsMaybe I can give you a hint or boost.02:54
g|patrickand i cant view their content with browser02:54
g|patrickso something is wrong there!02:55
cafuegog|patrick: Are you root?02:55
g|patricksure02:55
chibifsHave you mounted the disks?02:55
Slipaway172when i do that, i can only do it as a root02:55
HrdwrBoBg|patrick: that's not the error02:55
Christinmy keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup02:55
g|patricktermial says they are02:55
HrdwrBoBthat's your fstab02:55
HrdwrBoBnot to mention02:55
g|patrickya... thats i am talkin gbaout an hour02:55
cafuegog|patrick: start a nautilus as root, IT can access the drive.02:55
HrdwrBoBwhy do you have so many partitions?02:55
g|patrick500GB02:55
jcfreakanyone have any idea why i can get video and sound w/ totem-gstreamer, but only video w/ xine?02:55
Quest-Masterdamn.02:55
g|patricksplitted over 3 harddrives02:55
g|patrick250 seagete + 2x 160 samsung02:56
glickdamn i only have 300 gigs :(02:56
Slipaway172Christin, buy a new KB, they are under 41002:56
Goodspeedis there anyway to get root access outside of the terminal?02:56
Slipaway172$`002:56
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cafuegothe part tense of 'split' is 'split'02:56
Goodspeedin ubuntu?02:56
Slipaway172they are under $1002:56
g|patrickGoodspeed, in kde u can start appz with rootrights from gui02:56
cafuegoSlipaway172: Only shit ones are under $1002:56
g|patrickwell.. whats wrong with my fstab02:56
cafuegoSlipaway172: A good keyboard is a good investment.02:57
g|patricki need a corrected one02:57
g|patrickplz help me02:57
g|patricki am tired and i dont see any progress here... again :(02:57
cafuegog|patrick: umount /mnt/hda202:57
Goodspeedhow do I delete things in SMEG?02:57
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apokryphosGoodspeed: of course. Just alt+f2 -> gksudo {appname} or kdesu {appname}02:57
cafuegog|patrick: mount -t reiserfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda2 /media/hda202:57
Slipaway172cafuego, i bought a KB at a goodwill and for only $5 i got a microsoft split keyboard, never had one problem and i love how it is slipt02:58
Goodspeedthat still wont let me delete in smeg02:58
cafuegog|patrick: If that won't work (it may not) you will need to just run 'sudo nautilus' and access it that way.02:58
cafuegoSlipaway172: I used one of those once.02:58
Goodspeedand its so annoying seeing a blank program in the menu02:58
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cafuegoSlipaway172: Threw it out the window and went home to fetch my happy hacker.02:58
g|patrickterminal says, that hda2 is already mounted02:58
Christinslipaway172: it's not my keyboard that's the problem, it's linux, software problem.02:58
cafuegog|patrick: hence my first line, which was 'umount /media/hda2'02:58
g|patrickbut there is no drive displayed, thats ha 20GiB02:58
Slipaway172oh02:58
haydenhow can i add the application, places and system menus to the starterbar gdesklet?02:59
g|patricknow terminal says hda2 is not beeing found02:59
g|patrickwhats wrong here02:59
g|patrickthis suxx :(02:59
g|patrickall i do the alst 3 weeks is to backup and reset my linux all 3 days03:00
g|patrickbecause it gets wrecked again and again03:00
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cafuegog|patrick: The user IDs don't match up on the livecd with the accounts you had on the system, that's why only root can access them.03:01
g|patrick:/03:01
g|patrickya..03:01
jcfreakanyone have any idea why i can get video and sound w/ totem-gstreamer, but only video w/ xine?03:01
AmaranthGoodspeed: You can't delete things you didn't create.03:01
AmaranthGoodspeed: You can only hide them.03:01
toad3030there anybody that could help me on how to install themes from gnome-look.org??03:02
Madpilottoad3030: is that site back up, then?03:02
g|patrickwhere do appz store their settings03:02
Hoxzer^^Toad3030: do you have girl friend?03:02
toad3030yes it is back up03:02
g|patricki cant find my opera contacts and passwords in the usr folder :(03:02
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g|patrickcafuego, now i have access03:02
g|patricki dont know why03:03
g|patrickbut its there03:03
Hoxzer^^Toad: do you fuck her gently?03:03
Madpilotg|patrick: type "opera:about" in an address bar03:03
g|patrickwell03:03
g|patrickmadpilot03:03
g|patricki am in livecd03:03
g|patricksearching the drive for my data03:03
g|patricki dont have access to opera now03:03
g|patrickso i cant access the internal opera outpu03:03
g|patrickt03:03
Madpilottoad3030: save the archive to your desktop, open the Themes manager, and just drag the file over the theme window03:03
Major-DeFeKTk, i was just wondering, as i've only ever used one distrib of nix.. what's the advantage of this over others?03:03
Madpilotg|patrick: just a sec, I'll check my Opera isntall for you03:04
g|patrickthx :)03:04
toad3030haha, ok ty03:04
g|patrickbtw. i hope my english is not too bad03:04
g|patricki am lacking of practice03:04
paulproteustoad3030: The Linux world is finally getting to understand drag-and-drop. :)03:04
Madpilotg|patrick most of the settings should be in /home/<user>/.opera/opera6.ini03:04
g|patrickwatching movies and excessvie chatting dont improve as much as i hoped ;)03:04
toad3030nice03:05
g|patrickMadpilot, thx03:05
Madpilotg|patrick: actually just /home/<user>/.opera/ of course03:05
g|patrickthx03:05
g|patrickbtw. i am using it since opera4 now ;)03:06
g|patrickbut i am still not used to linux way of storing data ;)03:06
g|patrickalhtough its much more logic than in windows with dozens of subfolders03:06
Madpilotg|patrick: I've been an Opera user about as long - but I'm new to Linux too03:07
b0xenI like the dozens of subfolders! They make me feel superior when I understand them :)03:07
g|patrick:)03:07
HrdwrBoBb0xen: haha03:07
g|patrickboxen: well thats why i have so many partions03:07
g|patrickmovies, games, music03:07
Madpilotb0xen: ;) I don't think that qualifies as a good reason to have lots of folders!03:07
g|patrickits much easier and redundant if u dont have ONE huge drive03:07
b0xenMadpilot: having lots of folders makes me happy. I think that's a great reason!03:07
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Christinmy keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup03:08
b0xenOh you just move that to C:\windows\system32\temp\drivers\x86 and then your good!03:08
b0xensee how easy it is :-P03:08
g|patrickb0xen, ?03:08
b0xenit was a joke03:09
g|patrickwell.. what were u referring to?03:09
b0xenthe fact that windows has dozens of subfolders03:09
g|patrickya03:09
g|patricki were talking about the user management03:09
b0xenIn linux we don03:09
g|patricki know!03:10
b0xenwe don't have folders. We have "directories". That makes them better03:10
g|patrickin german there is no difference between those words03:10
g|patrickwould u explain it?03:10
tiglionabbitlol, they're the same thing03:10
b0xenA folder is just a silly icon that represents a directory or subdirectory03:10
g|patrickwell, the meaning is the same FOR ME03:10
Madpilotg|patrick: there isn't much difference in English either...03:10
paulproteusChristin: Check your GNOME keyboard settings.03:10
paulproteusChristin: Do you know how to get to those?03:11
g|patrickMadpilot, compound nouns ^03:11
Hikaru79Is there a user-specific script that is run whenever a specific user logs on?03:11
g|patrickgermans like it to put nouns together ^03:11
g|patrick;)03:11
b0xenWho needs icons anyway. Do all your work from the shell. It's the l33t way to be.03:11
Hikaru79(For example, a specific file that is executed when user 'bob' logs on, which is seperate from 'judy''s file?)03:11
Madpilotg|patrick: I've noticed that travelling in Germany... ;)03:11
paulproteusb0xen: Don't use the shell.  Interact with the computer in manually-punched tape03:11
PurpleMotionwhats the name of the friggen menu search & add utility for kde? i cant find it03:11
g|patricksteuer|vergnstigungs|abbau|gesetz <-- a law that fights tax benifits03:12
g|patricke.g.03:12
g|patrickbut thats OT again ... sry03:12
paulproteusHikaru79: GNOME has an on-login-run-these-programs system.03:12
Christinpaulproteus: yes. i had a look at it already. it's on generic 101-ky pc, us english03:12
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paulproteusChristin: Hmm.  And is that what you have?03:12
Hikaru79paulproteus, I'm looking for a general user-centric one, not based on a particular desktop system.03:12
b0xenpaulproteus: Genious!03:12
paulproteus(BTW, you probably have a 104 key keyboard.)03:12
b0xenI'll be l33ter then ever!03:12
paulproteusb0xen: Each user's .profile, then, I guess?03:12
b0xenwhat about it03:13
PurpleMotionsomeone should make an athena style for kde03:13
g|patrickbtw. a dot infornt of the folder means, that it will be hidden03:13
paulproteusPurpleMotion: Athena, like X Athena Widgets?03:13
Christinpaulproteus: well, i think i have a 104, yeah. that's what it was set to originally, but i changed it in case that was the problem. didn't help03:13
PurpleMotionyes03:13
paulproteusChristin: Hmm, okay.03:13
PurpleMotiona windeco and matching kde style would own03:13
PurpleMotionor lcars03:14
PurpleMotioneither one03:14
Code_Darkdoes ubuntu try to use ipv6 by default?03:14
PurpleMotionCode_Dark:  it turns it on by default (at least it did on mine)03:15
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Code_Darkdo you know how to disable it?03:15
PurpleMotionturn it off in your sysv system i'd imagine03:15
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Hikaru79paulproteus, where is each user's .profile stored? a 'locate .profile' only turned up the root one.03:16
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_SWAT_anyone here use SciTE?03:16
Hikaru79_SWAT_, I do.03:16
g|patrickhome, Hikaru7903:16
Christinpaultproteusq: what should i try next?03:17
Hikaru79g|patrick, .profile in /home? If it doens't exist and I create it, it will be automatically picked up?03:17
_SWAT_Hikaru79, I need to change some colors etc. I did that in the global properties file. They aren't accepted/loaded. Do you know why?03:17
toad3030what is a good dvd player to use??03:17
g|patrickweired03:17
Hikaru79I've never tried modding the global properties file =/ Sorry.03:17
g|patrickbtw. i cant access many sites not within linux03:17
g|patricke.g. juckig.de03:17
g|patrickwhats wrong here?03:18
g|patrickor spiegel.de03:18
g|patrickits said, that there was no host found03:18
Hikaru79Spiegel loads fine for me.03:18
_SWAT_g|patrick, which browser?03:18
g|patrickany03:18
g|patrickin windows it worx fine03:18
paulproteusHikaru79: ~username03:18
_SWAT_g|patrick, try pinging debian.de or something. Any/much packetloss?03:18
Madpilotspiegel.de works, the other one doesn't for me - Opera 8.02 in Hoary...03:18
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paulproteus~username/.profile03:19
g|patrickMadpilot, the site exists... in windows i accessed it 2hours ago03:19
g|patrickwhere are the dns settings stored03:19
g|patricki guess there is somethin gworn03:19
g|patrickwrong03:19
Hikaru79paulproteus, I don't have a .profile in my home dir. There's no /home/hikaru79/.profile . If I were to create one, would it automatically be recognized and run at login?03:19
Code_Darkokay. I have my eth0 up, it seems to have an inet addr, and seems to be sending/receiving some... but it doesnt seem like im on the net... any idea what's up?03:19
g|patrickhave u enabled "view hidden files"03:20
paulproteusHikaru79: Maybe it's .bash_profile these days.03:20
Hikaru79I'm using ls -al03:20
paulproteusI think the short answer to your question is "no", though.03:20
Hikaru79Ah. That it is, paulproteus! Thanks! ^_^03:20
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limerhello.  how might I go about using my headphones on a turtle beach santa cruz vs. using the speakers?03:20
_SWAT_I need a text editor (php/html etc.) which I can mod with great detail. I want it minimalistic (buttons etc.) and want to set all colors. Any suggestions?03:20
Xenguy_SWAT_: vim?03:21
_SWAT_ow, and it needs to be GUI :)03:21
_SWAT_Xenguy, thnx though :D03:21
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Xenguy_SWAT_: gvim?03:21
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Xenguy;-)03:21
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frank_bsorry to bother you... how does one rename a directory?03:22
paulproteusfrank_b: mv03:22
Xenguymv03:22
_SWAT_frank_b, 'mv'03:22
paulproteusOr right-click rename03:22
frank_bmove it instead od directly renaming it?03:22
Xenguyyeh03:22
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Code_Darkokay. ubuntu thinks that it's connected to my network as 192.168.1.110. however, when i ssh 192.168.1.111, it gives me 'no route to host'. any idea what's up?03:23
_SWAT_Xenguy, never heard of gvim. Will look into it. thnx for the heads up :)03:23
frank_bah, ok. MS-DOS used to be like that but the latest versions allowed you to directly rename a directory name... whatever03:23
frank_bthanks03:23
Hikaru79Code_Dark, because you're connected to .110 and you ssh to .111 ?03:24
Xenguy_SWAT_: remember, learning (g)vi(m) is an investment :-)03:24
Code_DarkHikaru79: ... it thinks that it's subnet ip is .110.03:24
Code_Darkim not actually connected03:24
Code_Darkbut it thinks i am03:24
limerhello.  how might I go about using my headphones on a turtle beach santa cruz vs. using the speakers?03:24
Xenguyheheh03:24
Hikaru79So was it a typo when you said you ssh to .111?03:24
Code_Darkno.03:25
_SWAT_Xenguy, I used vim as terminal editor so, at least I know that for a little bit03:25
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Code_DarkHikaru79: if my subnet ip is 192.168.1.110, then I should be able to ssh to 192.168.1.11103:25
Code_Darkfrom .11003:25
Hikaru79Oooh. FROM .110 TO .111?03:26
Xenguy_SWAT_: perfect, just learn all the commands :)03:26
Code_DarkHikaru79: yep03:26
Code_Darkubuntu thinks that it's on the subnet, but somehow i dont think it really is.03:26
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_SWAT_Xenguy, damn... that's would be a lot of learning. Do you know of any other good editors?03:28
occyhow can I get the new clearlooks engine wtih Ubuntu?03:28
Christinpaultproteus: no ideas?03:28
occythe one with rounded corners on bottom and top.03:28
g|patrickwhats clearlooks?03:28
occyhttp://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/100903:28
occyg|patrick, check that URL03:29
MadpilotClearlooks in included in Ubuntu by default, I'm pretty sure03:29
MadpilotI'm using it on my desktop right now03:29
Xenguy_SWAT_: seriously, there are 'refcards' on the web that give you all the commands -- give it 3 months, and you'll be starting to cruise03:29
occyMadpilot, it's the old one with squared curves on the bottom though03:29
occyerr03:29
occyheh03:29
occysquared curves.03:29
occyMadpilot, the one in Hoary has the squared bottoms.03:30
occyMadpilot, the new engine has curved bottoms.03:30
Xenguy_SWAT_: otherwise something like glimmer, or gedit, or emacs =), etc.03:30
occycheck above URL and screenshot.03:30
Madpilotoccy: the one I'm using right now has curves on all four corners03:30
_SWAT_Xenguy, why should I 'spend' 3 months learning vim? There are other editors on the web which don't need 3 months of learning03:30
occyMadpilot, really?03:30
Madpilotperhaps I did download it, then03:30
occyMaddy, how'd you get it?03:30
occyerr03:30
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occyMadpilot, how'd you get it?03:30
Xenguy_SWAT_: because of the dividends if you do stick it out03:30
goldfish_SWAT_: Vim rocks only takes a few minutes to learn the basics.03:30
goldfishwell, the very basics03:30
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occyMadpilot, do you have backports or something like that in your sources.list ?03:31
Madpilotoccy: no backports, just extras. I'm pretty sure it's from the default install, but perhaps I updated it from gnome-looks.03:31
goldfishin vim you can do 10dd , saves ten minutes of holding backspace in nano!03:31
occyMadpilot, naw, I know for certain it's not the default.03:31
Christinmy keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup03:31
occyMadpilot, hmmm I tried getting it and installing it... but the engine isn't up-to-date.03:31
Xenguyvim is a steep learning curve, but lots of power after it's learned03:32
g|patrickwell.. if thats included03:32
occyMadpilot, you must have compiled the engine03:32
g|patrickwhere can i modify the windowapearence?03:32
occyMadpilot, which I don't know how to do. :)03:32
_SWAT_Xenguy, goldfish, i'm comparing vim now to things like gedit. Aren't those much faster/effective?03:32
Madpilotoccy: no compiling here, but I do have four round corners!03:32
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occyMadpilot, grrr!!!03:32
occyMadpilot, ;)03:32
occyMadpilot, I'll try gnome-look.org03:32
Madpilotg|patrick: System - Pref - Themes03:32
g|patrickthema... lol... where can i complain about the german translation^03:33
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g|patrickthere is no choice for roundet edges03:33
Xenguy_SWAT_: with vim you have to 'dive deep' and practice -- but after you do, it like this mythical, invincible editing tool that just chews up text files :-)03:34
Madpilotjust a minute, I'll play with my Themes and see how I got four round corners...03:34
_SWAT_Xenguy, you make it sound really tastefull. Damn. You really start to convince me03:34
Xenguy_SWAT_: but yeah, gedit will get you productive in the short run03:34
g|patrickMadpilot, dont get hasty... we have much time...03:34
occyMadpilot, got it ;)03:34
g|patrick:)03:35
occyhehe03:35
_SWAT_Xenguy, longrun vim is better?03:35
Xenguy_SWAT_: its like climbing a big hill :-)03:35
occyMadpilot, clearlooks-balloon03:35
occyMadpilot, thanks03:35
Xenguy_SWAT_: "longrun" is vim's middle name ;-)03:35
_SWAT_Xenguy, I like climbing hills. I'm also now using Linux no matter the difficulty/cost. I take a crap on it :-)03:35
Madpilotoccy: nope, my Clearlooks has four round in all settings. not sure how I got them, but they're cool!03:35
g|patrickoccy, explain that plz :)03:35
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Xenguy_SWAT_: yeah, there's a lot to explore03:35
g|patricki still think, kde and gnome should sit around a round table to discuss how the gui might be easier to use03:36
Madpilotg|patrick: if there are translation errors, bug-report them to bugzilla.ubuntu.com and get them fixed for Breezy03:36
occyMadpilot, Yeah, I'm good to go...03:36
g|patrickMadpilot, thx :)03:37
_SWAT_Xenguy, and while I'm learning myself, I'm trying to convince others too :D03:37
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g|patrickthey should translate thema to something else03:37
g|patrickand their mousesettings... fr linke nutzung ^03:37
Razor-Xa 7 hour ride, and i'm only prepared for like... 4 hours03:37
g|patrickthat is absolutely wrong in german03:37
g|patrickwe assasoiate political partys with such sentences03:38
g|patrick^^03:38
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Xenguy_SWAT_: doing it yourself is the best proof that it works (and it's fun too, some of the time =)03:38
Madpilotg|patrick: interesting. you might want to join the #ubuntu-doc group and see if someone there can help you03:38
MadpilotUbuntu is supposed to have a big internationalization push, but it needs to be a well-done push!03:39
Razor-XI convinced my dad to bring his laptop -- now to see if I can get some basic wardiving done ;)03:39
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Code_Darkokay03:42
Code_Darki've narrowed down my problem03:43
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Code_Darkwhen i use the graphical eth0 setup03:43
Code_Darkand set my gateway to 192.168.1.103:43
Code_Darkand static ip to 192.168.1.11603:43
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Code_Darki can run 'route -n' and see that the destination is 192.168.1.003:43
HrdwrBoBCode_Dark: if you use DHCP or ppp it will overwrite your gateway and DNS03:43
Code_Darkwhich isnt 192.168.1.103:43
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Code_DarkHrdwrBoB: i'm using neither dhcp or ppp03:43
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HrdwrBoBCode_Dark: that's a route to get to your local net03:44
HrdwrBoBthere should be two entries03:44
Code_Darkthere arent.03:44
HrdwrBoBone of which defines access the the local net as direct03:44
HrdwrBoBand one which says access everything else though 192.168.1.103:44
luminerdWhy won't Ubuntu work with my mouse?  Cat won't work, od won't work, the mouse works in other machines, I tried putting Ubuntu on the exact duplicate machine (I have 20 of them)....NOTHING WORKS!!  The problem is in Ubuntu...has anyone had this or know hwo to fix it?03:44
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Code_DarkHrdwrBoB: there isnt03:44
Code_Darkwhat's the command to add that?03:44
Code_Darkbeen awhile since i used route add03:44
HrdwrBoBroute add default gw IP03:44
benplauthello everyone :)03:45
benplaut!hello ubotu03:45
ubotubenplaut: I don't know, could you explain it?03:45
benplautheh03:45
HrdwrBoBto change it permanently edit /etc/network/interfaces and add 'gateway IP'03:45
HrdwrBoBluminerd: ok what mouse, what error, etc et03:45
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luminerdps/2, no error.03:45
luminerdit just won't move.03:45
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nickrudAmaranth, you around for a quick  question?03:45
Xenguyluminerd: why don't you just switch mice?03:46
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luminerdXenguy, I tried that too03:46
Code_DarkHrdwrBoB: well, it's added, but now when i ping 192.168.1.1 i get dest. host unreachable03:46
ben_so, i'm trying to configure my wireless card and it seems to be running, however only with an ipv6 (inet6) address in ifconfig which makes it usuless, how can i set up a regular ipv4 address on it?03:46
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HrdwrBoBCode_Dark: paste me the output of route -n03:47
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Code_Darker, i cant paste it, but i can type it03:47
HrdwrBoBluminerd: have you tried any different mice03:47
HrdwrBoBCode_Dark: close enough03:47
luminerdHrdwrBoB, yes, as I mentioned, I have03:47
Man1since I upgraded thunderbird in hoary from the latest upgrade, I cannot start it anymore. It is stuch in an auto-restart loop. See http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/966 for the message displayed on the shell while auto-restarting03:48
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: I only saw that the mouse works on other machines03:48
Madpilotompaul: it's Munsch's "the scream", actually! ;)03:48
paxanyone got mod_rewrite workig on ubuntu?03:48
HrdwrBoBso you've tested a different ps2 mouse on this machine?03:48
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok, sorry03:48
luminerdbut yea03:48
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XenguyHrdwrBoB: maybe the serial port ?03:49
HrdwrBoBluminerd: well then it's not the port03:49
HrdwrBoBXenguy: it's a PS2 mouse.03:49
ompaulMadpilot, ahh03:49
redtechok i ran into a prob..  im trying to apt-get wine and recieve the following '/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process' and 'lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat' shows 'frontend 8019 root    4rW  REG   3,66 64357 900181 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat'  any ideas?03:49
Xenguyahh03:49
ompaulMadpilot, same principle applies03:49
HrdwrBoBluminerd: can you paste the Xorg.0.log on pastebin?03:49
luminerdHrdwrBoB, what good would that do?  and no, I can't03:49
Madpilotompaul: I'm just going for pedant points! ;) who is Darl McBride, anyway?03:50
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I have no mouse, remember??03:50
luminerdlol03:50
HrdwrBoBMadpilot: CEO of SCO03:50
g|patrickbtw. is there any difference between ximian gnome and standard gnome?03:50
HrdwrBoBluminerd: you can still ssh in and grab the file03:50
benplaut!lart Darl_McBride03:50
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ompaulMadpilot, as HrdwrBoB said03:50
MadpilotHrdwrBoB: I'm almost sorry I asked! ;)03:50
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, I suppose, but I never have before03:51
luminerdHrdwrBoB, it won't do any good though03:51
luminerdX starts fine03:51
HrdwrBoByes03:51
HrdwrBoBI'm sure it does03:51
luminerdthere's nothing about the mouse not working in there03:51
HrdwrBoBwell X is what you want to use the mouse, isn't it03:52
HrdwrBoBwhat sort of mouse is it03:52
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Dr_FateIf I need java with FF to run without crashing several ltimes a day03:52
Dr_Fateand overloading the browser03:52
Dr_Fateam I screwed?03:52
Dr_Fateanyone here need java for work and use FF?03:52
calcjava and flash is all the same... crap :)03:53
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ps/203:53
Dr_Fatedoes it slow FF to a crawl with more than 6 windows open?03:53
KarDtI have one problem with a application that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, how can i install it?03:53
HrdwrBoBluminerd: no, what brand/type03:53
luminerdHrdwrBoB, and yes, X is what I want it for, but the log says the mouse works fine03:53
Madpilotcalc: yeah, but widespread and often actually needed...03:53
luminerdHrdwrBoB, doesn't matter03:53
luminerdHrdwrBoB, no ps/2 mouse works in it03:53
HrdwrBoB.. but you said that other mice worked03:53
luminerdI have tried many03:53
luminerdHrdwrBoB, no I didn't03:53
HrdwrBoB11:48 < HrdwrBoB> so you've tested a different ps2 mouse on this machine?03:53
HrdwrBoB11:48 < luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, sorry03:53
HrdwrBoB11:48 < luminerd> but yea03:53
luminerdI said other mice don't work03:53
calcMadpilot: flash is actually needed for something other than advertising? :)03:53
HrdwrBoBI quite specifically asked that03:53
HrdwrBoBok, so it's not the mouse, it's the port03:54
luminerdno03:54
luminerdit's not the port03:54
Madpilotcalc: there's those great political cartoons - jibjab or something?03:54
g|patrickwelll.. i am tired now :)03:54
luminerdbecause I tried another duplicate machine as well03:54
g|patrickgn803:54
luminerdsame thing03:54
g|patrickcu03:54
g|patrick:)03:54
HrdwrBoBluminerd: no, what I mean is there is no problem with the mouse03:54
calcMadpilot: that isn't really needed, i though you meant for real work ;)03:54
luminerdooh03:54
luminerdyea03:54
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calcer thought03:54
HrdwrBoBthere's a systemic problem with the port03:54
luminerdno prob with hardware at all03:54
HrdwrBoBnot that the port is specifically broken03:54
luminerdok03:54
calcthough jibjab is funny03:54
luminerdheh sry03:54
Madpilotcalc: real work no, haven't seen it used for any of that... ;)03:54
HrdwrBoBwell there is a problem, just possibly not a broken problem03:55
HrdwrBoBthe end result is, the mouse doesn't work03:55
calci think i've only seen java used for a real work non-game once03:55
HrdwrBoBcalc: we use java chat legitmately for a community site here03:55
luminerdHrdwrBoB, lol, yea03:55
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: have you checked the bios for settings related to PS203:56
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: or, even better 'revert to failsafe defaults'03:56
HrdwrBoBor equivalent03:56
PurpleMotionit's 10pm and almost ninety degrees03:56
luminerdHrdwrBoB, no, and I hate to say this, but they worked fine when windows was on here03:56
HrdwrBoBPurpleMotion: you must be boiling03:56
ompaulPurpleMotion, emm its 2:56 am and its 12 degrees and wet03:56
PurpleMotionpretty fsckin hot03:56
HrdwrBoBluminerd: again, not over relevant - it may have a setting that doesn't agree with the linux drivers03:56
PurpleMotion12 degrees?03:56
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ompaulPurpleMotion, yeap03:57
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok, so what, boot into bios now?03:57
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: something is wrong, change and eliminate thigns until it isn't.03:57
HrdwrBoByes03:57
PurpleMotionwhats that equal in degrees fahrenheit?03:57
HrdwrBoBit probably won't make a difference, but it's worth checking03:57
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ompaulPurpleMotion, real ones oC ;-) about 50 iirc03:57
mosheI just burned the ppc livecd and rebooted a mac on it.  It ignored the cd and loaded osx.  why didn't it boot the cd?03:58
PurpleMotioni wish it was about fifty here03:58
PurpleMotionmoshe:  hold down C when you boot03:58
ompaulPurpleMotion, it is 59 actually03:58
moshethe letter c?03:58
PurpleMotionwhatever, thats a sight better than 9003:58
PurpleMotionmoshe:  yes03:58
luminerdHrdwrBoB, not sure where to go, it's Phoenix - AwardBIOS CMOS Setup Utility.03:59
luminerddo you know of this?03:59
ompaulPurpleMotion,  http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm useful for that03:59
Madpilotcalc: actually, for Flash being used from something like realy work, check this out: http://www.onesixright.com/  <-- it even works in Opera on Hoary03:59
HrdwrBoBluminerd: poke around for a load failsafe defaults option03:59
Madpilot*real work...03:59
luminerdHrdwrBoB, load optimized defaults?03:59
HrdwrBoByes04:00
HrdwrBoBwell.. failsafe defaults would be better04:00
luminerdHrdwrBoB, alright, saved04:00
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HrdwrBoBok04:01
HrdwrBoBtry now - it might work04:01
HrdwrBoBmost likely not, but we've eliminated another possibility04:01
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luminerdlol04:01
KarDtI have one problem with a application that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, how can i install it?04:02
luminerdHrdwrBoB, negative04:02
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: can you paste dmesg?04:02
ompaulnight all04:03
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, no, can't paste at all04:04
luminerdunless you know a hotkey for it04:04
HrdwrBoBluminerd: ok, at the console04:04
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HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get install ssh04:04
HrdwrBoBthen on the other machine run ssh user@remotemachine dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.txt04:04
HrdwrBoBthen paste /tmp/dmesg.txt04:05
luminerdHrdwrBoB, have no net connection -_-04:05
bingobangodoes anyone know what to do about "Could not pause playback" errors with rhythmbox?  it was working yesterday... then when i rebooted, i got nuffin.04:05
HrdwrBoBluminerd: you can't network them with you locally?04:05
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, I don't know why04:05
HrdwrBoBbingobango: it's because gstreamer/esd are having fits04:05
luminerdthe ethernet's plugged in04:05
luminerdI got an error on the install about it though HrdwrBoB04:05
HrdwrBoBluminerd: what error?04:05
bingobangoHrdwrBoB:  hmmm.  any idea how to unfit em?04:05
luminerdHrdwrBoB, just said it couldn't configure network connection or something04:06
luminerdi figured it was cause it wasn't plugged in at the time04:06
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luminerdit did it on the other machine too04:06
luminerdbut the other machine can get on the net04:06
luminerdI hvae two of them with me by the way, and 18 are at the office04:06
HrdwrBoBwell use the one that can get net access :)04:07
bingobangoHrdwrBoB: what about switching sinks for audio output?04:07
luminerdHrdwrBoB, umm...04:07
luminerdI need to fix it anyway04:07
HrdwrBoBif you have some budget, spend $sfa on usb mice04:07
luminerddo you know what caused this possibly or how I can fix it?04:07
HrdwrBoBbingobango: that would help04:07
luminerdHrdwrBoB, no thanks, I'll sooner go with slackware.04:07
HrdwrBoBbingobango: depends on what you want04:07
HrdwrBoBluminerd: it works with slackware?04:07
luminerdI just want to fix it though04:07
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, I bet it would.  worked on Debian.04:08
bingobangoHrdwrBoB:  is there a discernible difference in sink choices?04:08
HrdwrBoBthat's certainly odd04:08
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benkong2where does one set ServerName in apache on ubuntu...I don't see it apache2.conf and httpd.conf is empty04:08
HrdwrBoBbingobango: yes, esd is total crack04:08
luminerdbut debian all around sucked, and missed drivers for video, internet, and like 5 other devices04:08
bingobangoHrdwrBoB: i just want something reliable04:08
HrdwrBoBbingobango: the best option is to get an emu10k1 card (sb live)04:08
HrdwrBoBand to not use esd at all04:08
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: have you tried cahnging the mouse device to /dev/psaux/04:09
HrdwrBoBluminerd: have you tried cahnging the mouse device to /dev/psaux ?04:09
luminerdyea04:09
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luminerdon the xorg.conf you mean right??04:09
HrdwrBoByes04:09
luminerdyup04:09
HrdwrBoBtested the mouse using gpm?04:09
luminerdno04:09
HrdwrBoBthat's the easiest test04:09
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HrdwrBoBgpm is a console mouse driver04:09
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, somehow it's not getting an electronic signal at all though04:10
luminerdbecause cat, od, and less don't work...why would gpm?04:10
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luminerdplus I'm not sure if I have gpm04:10
luminerdand how do I get this thing on the net?04:10
bingobangoHrdwrBoB:  all of the sinks say they can't construct a test pipeline under multimedia systems selector04:10
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bingobangoHrdwrBoB: sounds like a problem with my audio equipment rather than the driver04:10
HrdwrBoBbingobango: yes04:10
HrdwrBoBsomething is probably using it04:10
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HrdwrBoBpossibly esd04:10
HrdwrBoBpossibly something else04:10
Goodspeedhow do i find the local ip of my machine04:11
Goodspeedlike 192.168.1.10004:11
Goodspeedor something liek that?04:11
HrdwrBoBGoodspeed: run ifconfig04:11
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Goodspeednot ip config?04:11
HrdwrBoBluminerd: run 'dhclient eth0'04:11
Goodspeed:)04:11
sebixHi, I have vim 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7 and I can't install vim-python, because of dependencies problem. I don't find out how to solve this...04:11
HrdwrBoBluminerd: that won't solve it permanently but it'll run dhcp once so you can get on04:11
HrdwrBoBluminerd: after you've fixed the mouse issue you can use the gui04:11
luminerdsweet04:11
luminerdthanks HrdwrBoB04:11
luminerdok what did you want me to aptitude again?04:11
HrdwrBoBgpm04:11
HrdwrBoBI take it they're ball mice04:12
luminerdsudo aptitude install gpm?04:12
luminerdyea they are04:12
HrdwrBoBdo you have a ps2 laser mouse?04:12
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HrdwrBoBplug it in, see if it gets a light04:12
HrdwrBoBPurpleMotion: heh04:12
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, no, don't have one04:12
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, one's on its way int he mail though, heh04:13
HrdwrBoBluminerd: hm ok04:13
PurpleMotionyou can use the ps/2 port to power a 2.5" 4400rpm hdd04:13
HrdwrBoBthat would be an easy test though04:13
MadpilotPurpleMotion: my step-mother still has one. without a scroll wheel. it sucketh mightily.04:13
HrdwrBoBMadpilot: buy her a new mouse04:13
luminerdHrdwrBoB, so do or do not sudo aptitude install gpm?04:13
HrdwrBoBMadpilot: if you don't like her, use it to choke her with04:13
HrdwrBoBluminerd: well, gpm is useful for mouse testing04:13
HrdwrBoBso yes04:13
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I have a usb wacom?04:13
HrdwrBoBluminerd: unless it works with a USB->ps2 converter04:13
HrdwrBoBthen it's not really helping04:14
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok, I did that command, it said no candidate version found for gpm04:14
PurpleMotioni have a two inch long, one inch wide 7 button usb mouse (two buttons on top, one on each side, and the wheel (three buttons there))04:14
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I don't know :/04:14
HrdwrBoBluminerd: probably in universe04:14
MadpilotHrdwrBoB: ha! no, she's OK, bt might be getting a new mouse for her birthday... ;)04:14
HrdwrBoBMadpilot: heh, I just organised ADSL, wireless and a laptop for my inlaws04:14
rekaPurpleMotion: you must be proud. :)04:15
PurpleMotionit's a pretty cool mouse04:15
nJesslaptop has been finished04:15
HrdwrBoBluminerd: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable universe04:15
PurpleMotionvery small04:15
HrdwrBoB(see the comments in that file)04:15
nJessjust gave brother a crashcourse in linux04:15
nJessthat was fun04:15
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok yea I did that on the other heh04:15
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I need emacs first, what's the command again?04:15
luminerdemacs31 or something?04:15
luminerdto aptitude it that is04:15
rekaemacs2104:16
luminerdthanks :D04:16
_SWAT_anyone here now of a good music mix program? Just to 'edit' current MP3 songs and adding beats etc. ? (and maybe transforming and stuff)04:16
PurpleMotion_SWAT_:  lmms04:16
PurpleMotion_SWAT_:  lmms.sf.net04:17
HrdwrBoBluminerd: nfi I don't use emacs :)04:17
PurpleMotiondunno about mp3's thou04:17
HrdwrBoBnJess: glad to hear :)04:17
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apokryphosAmaranth: thought you might find this interesting http://blogs.qtdeveloper.net/archives/2005/08/03/some-basic-thoughts-about-kde-4/  -- mentions some of the things I remember you arguing04:17
rekaanyone know of a video player/editor that can play/rewind frame-by-frame?04:17
luminerdHrdwrBoB, is it the bottom two or the ones right under the thing that said uncomment these to add software from the universe04:17
_SWAT_PurpleMotion, thnx, I'll take a look at it04:17
luminerdHrdwrBoB, nfi?04:18
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rekasort of like quicktime player's capability04:18
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, its not in the wikipedia lol04:19
_SWAT_PurpleMotion, seems kinda new. Do you maybe know of a more mature program?04:19
black13i have have problems with xorg because my usr directory is readonly04:19
HrdwrBoBluminerd: it's in AddingMultimediaRepositories04:19
PurpleMotion_SWAT_:  not really, but i have it, and it runs pretty well04:19
_SWAT_PurpleMotion, can you check for the mp3 thing? (by any chance?)04:20
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok, now what?  do the gpm thing?04:21
PurpleMotionit doesnt open mp3's.. it's more of a sequencer/loop editor... it actually works a LOT like fruity loops, if you're familiar with that04:21
PurpleMotionand to date, its VERY stable04:21
rekablack13: what sort of problems?04:21
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Joose^hi again..04:22
HrdwrBoBluminerd: yeah04:22
HrdwrBoBcheck the manual04:22
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HrdwrBoBand do some trial and error with different drivers etc04:22
luminerdHrdwrBoB, hmm, it didnt work04:22
luminerddid the same thing04:22
HrdwrBoBthe same thing?04:23
luminerddo I have to update the aptitude database or something liek that first?04:23
tha_gamemasterwould it be difficult to set up ubuntu-server as port-restrictive firewall?04:23
Joose^it's this okay? sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff04:23
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luminerdsudo aptitude install gpm04:23
Joose^it's this okay? make clean patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff04:23
black13reka  Cannot open "compiled/server-0.xkm" to write keyboard description:04:23
_SWAT_PurpleMotion, nice04:23
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I already did this man04:24
HrdwrBoBoh04:24
luminerdI spent 5 hours changing around the xorg.conf04:24
Goodspeedhow do i remove wine and limewire04:24
HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get update04:24
rekablack13: what are you trying to do/what caused it?04:24
Goodspeedthey arent on synaptic04:24
HrdwrBoBluminerd: it may be a kernel problem04:24
HrdwrBoBluminerd: this is why I was asking for dmesg output04:24
HrdwrBoBluminerd: I can aldso recommend you get an email with all of this information04:24
HrdwrBoBand post it to the forums and the mailing list04:25
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok I can get it to you but how do I copy and paste without my mouse?04:25
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HrdwrBoBbecause it's a more involved process04:25
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Joose^it's this okay? make clean patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff04:25
HrdwrBoBluminerd: use ssh04:25
_SWAT_PurpleMotion, take a look at this :D    http://glame.sourceforge.net/index.var04:25
HrdwrBoBssh to that machine from yours04:25
HrdwrBoBrun dmesg04:25
HrdwrBoBthen c/p04:25
Totalhey guys how do you get an application through root terminal04:25
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ...how man!04:25
black13reka i have build a live cd the usr directory is mount read only ... the file system is squashfs04:25
luminerdI dont know its ip04:25
Goodspeedhow do i get rid of osmething thats not in synaptic04:25
luminerdand how to do that04:25
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luminerdI'm completely lost at it04:26
HrdwrBoBluminerd: 1) install ssh04:26
rekaTotal: define 'get'04:26
Totalapt get04:26
HrdwrBoB2) on your machine run ssh user@remoteip04:26
luminerdHrdwrBoB, already got it04:26
Totalhow do you type it04:26
luminerdHrdwrBoB, usr@remoteip?04:26
ateoh211hello, would anyone be willing to help me to troubleshoot wvdial?04:26
PurpleMotionoh look, it's soundforge for linux04:26
tha_gamemasterTotal, apt-get install packagename04:26
rekaTotal: don't use the root terminal...use normal and then type sudo apt-get <whatever>04:26
benplaut!lart Dave_Orton04:26
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PurpleMotionnow all they need to do is clone acid pro and im a happy musician again04:26
benplautthanks, ubotu04:26
ateoh211apt-cache search filename04:26
luminerdhow do I get the remoteip, HrdwrBoB ?04:27
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black13reka http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=1155&tstart=004:27
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Joose^i need help to install intel537ep04:27
HrdwrBoBluminerd: you said you knew its IP04:27
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luminerdluminerd HrdwrBoB, ...how man!04:27
luminerdluminerd I dont know its ip04:27
yo2khi guys...04:27
Goodspeeddo i use apt-get remove to remove packages that arent in synaptic???04:27
ateoh211I run setup for the modem and put a username a pword in for my isp...04:28
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: run ifconfig it will tell you04:28
shammy I have my drivers installed, but when i try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, i get an error saying cannot insert ndiswrapper, operation not permitted. Why would that be?04:28
luminerdHrdwrBoB, which one is it?04:28
yo2khow i know the hostname in my local network, if i know the ip addr ?04:28
black13reka this give a run down of bug basically /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkbd/compiled cant be written to04:28
HrdwrBoBluminerd: eth004:28
HrdwrBoByo2k: run host ip04:28
luminerdHrdwrBoB, which one there?04:28
yo2kHrdwrBoB, thank's...04:28
ateoh211sometime it hangs after -->Modem initialized   -->Please enter password(or empy password to stop):04:28
HrdwrBoBluminerd: the one that says inet: addr04:29
HrdwrBoBinet addr:04:29
luminerdluminerd@darkstar:~$ ssh consultant@192.168.2.1004:29
luminerdssh: connect to host 192.168.2.10 port 22: Connection refused04:29
HrdwrBoByes04:29
HrdwrBoBthis is why I said to get ssh04:29
Joose^and a guide says this sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff i do that, but now says than apply this commands make clean, sudo make 537, make install , how i use those commands, i mean.. how04:29
tha_gamemasterluminerd, did you start the ssh daemon?04:29
luminerdtha_gamemaster, no clue04:29
rekablack13: not really sure sorry.....but would a chmod be appropriate?04:29
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HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get install ssh04:29
luminerdHrdwrBoB, oh, wait, the machine I'm SSHing to needs ssh?!04:29
HrdwrBoBplease read what I type04:30
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HrdwrBoBI'm not doing it for my own amusement04:30
ateoh211We are trying to start a community program, ubuntu on donated systems for those who can't afford.04:30
tha_gamemasterluminerd, the pc you are trying to connect to needs to have ssh installed04:30
ateoh211but I'm having a heck of a time with this modem04:30
black13reka no unfortunately squashfs is a readonly file system04:30
luminerdah hah!04:30
luminerdthat's my prob lol04:30
Joose^and a guide says this sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff i do that, but now says than apply this commands make clean, sudo make 537, make install , how i use those commands, i mean.. how04:30
ateoh211does anyone do dial up anymore?04:30
HrdwrBoBateoh211: not really04:30
rekaateoh211: heaps04:30
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HrdwrBoBateoh211: the only thing I do with dialup is migrate people away from it04:30
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black13reka etc var root are use the tmpfs file system04:31
HrdwrBoBreka: DSL is cheaper04:31
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nickrudlol, HrdwrBoB I just drop in and you say04:31
nickrud'migrate'04:31
PurpleMotion_SWAT_:  checking out glame now..04:31
ateoh211HrdwrBoB: what if your on the road with a laptop, or what if your trying to provide an underprivleged person with internet?04:31
luminerdHrdwrBoB, http://pastebin.com/32967604:31
Madpilotis the default audio CD player going to be changed for Breezy? My copy hangs with every d*mn CD I try and use it with...04:31
PurpleMotiontwas already in universe04:31
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HrdwrBoBateoh211: then I'll use dialup or a local wireless provider04:32
rekablack13: yeah, sorry, i'm not much of an expert with what you're doing04:32
HrdwrBoBbut my point is more it's not really of interest to most people04:32
HrdwrBoBso it's not really recieving the attention it perhaps needs04:32
ateoh211HrdwrBoB: cool, so anychance you or anyone here could give me some tips troubleshooting a wvdial04:32
ateoh211..setup?04:32
Goodspeedhow do i get rid of wine?!04:33
ateoh211Goodspeed: drink it04:33
nickrudateoh211, use pppconfig, not wvdial04:33
ateoh211;)04:33
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black13reka well sometimes just chatting with someone cause you to have to focus your thoughts ...04:33
Vubuntuhey all. How do I add a splash screen in gnome?04:33
benplautVubuntu: "sudo apt-get install gtweakui"04:34
rekablack13: well, hoped it helped. lol :)04:34
benplaut!splashscreen04:34
ubotubenplaut: Bugger all, i dunno04:34
benplauthmm04:34
Vubuntubenplaut, cool thanks04:34
benplautwe'll have to do something about that...04:34
spanglesontoastbored installing vmware.04:34
HrdwrBoBbenplaut: nautilus with ~ as desktop is love04:34
Goodspeedhow do you delete directories?04:35
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MadpilotGoodspeed: highlight in Nautilus & hit the Delete key usually works04:35
Goodspeedi dont have permission04:35
benplautubotu splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)04:35
ubotuokay, benplaut04:35
HrdwrBoBluminerd: that's not the whole of dmesg04:36
benplaut!splashscreen04:36
ubotufrom memory, splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)04:36
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rekaGoodspeed: where are the directories?04:36
benplaut!thanks04:36
ubotuno worries, benplaut04:36
Madpilotbenplaut: you can /msg the bot to train it04:36
luminerdHrdwrBoB, you want it all?04:36
HrdwrBoByes04:36
benplauttrue04:36
luminerdHrdwrBoB, that will take forever :(04:36
HrdwrBoBluminerd: why?04:36
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Goodspeedthey're hidden ones in my home04:36
benplautHrdwrBoB: what is ~?04:36
Goodspeed.wine04:36
_SWAT_PurpleMotion, I'm off c ya04:36
HrdwrBoBbenplaut: home directory04:36
Goodspeedno... im not trying to delete my usr direcotry04:36
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Goodspeed...yet04:36
benplautahh04:37
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: try ssh user@remote dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.txt04:37
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, because I have no way of highlighting it all04:37
spanglesontoasti've been trying to get cedega to work with swat 304:37
benplautoh, i forgot to do that screenshot :/04:37
HrdwrBoBluminerd: then open dmesg.txt04:37
rekaHrdwrBoB: can you recommend a good au DSL provider?04:37
HrdwrBoBselect all, paste04:37
benplautreka: verizon04:37
HrdwrBoBreka: broadbandchoice.com.au04:37
HrdwrBoBbenplaut: ... AU04:37
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rekaHrdwrBoB: cheers04:37
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benplautAU?04:37
HrdwrBoBreka: no worries04:38
benplautoh04:38
luminerdHrdwrBoB, there's no /tmp/dmesg.txt?04:38
benplautaustralia04:38
HrdwrBoBbenplaut: it's one of those plases not in the US04:38
luminerdHrdwrBoB, oooh04:38
b0xenIs there anywhere I can find a complete list of the software I can install with apt-get?04:38
luminerdI got it, sorry04:38
b0xenOr some way to look up the name of the package?04:38
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HrdwrBoBb0xen: apt-cache search foo04:38
benplautb0xen: it's about 16,000 items long04:38
b0xenso i know what it is i want to apt get04:38
skalpelroot_____: you should not irc as root, it is unsafe. i would recommend you close yoru client and login under a different name04:38
HrdwrBoBb0xen: or run synaptic04:38
palandiahi there04:38
benplautb0xn: yeah04:38
b0xendoes search foo give descriptions?04:38
HrdwrBoByes04:38
b0xencan I apt-get synaptic? or is it installed by default04:39
HrdwrBoBinstalled by default04:39
b0xencool04:39
luminerdHrdwrBoB, no idea how to select all though still04:39
benplautit's installed by default04:39
palandiai have installed hoary from iso but my Xserver doesnt start can anybody help me please04:39
benplautgksudo synaptic04:39
shammyWhen i use su, and enter my pass I get an authentification failed, but when i try sudo anything and enter the pass it works, what is this?04:39
HrdwrBoBluminerd: open it in gedit, select all?04:39
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, well I did emacs but ok04:39
benplautubotu tell palandia about xserver04:39
HrdwrBoBshammy: because su doesn't work04:39
Vubuntubrb trying out my splash screen04:39
luminerdHrdwrBoB, gedit's not on there?04:39
HrdwrBoBshammy: because root does not have a password04:39
shammyHrdwrBoB: Oh, ok04:40
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HrdwrBoBluminerd: gedit is installed with ubuntu-desktop04:40
luminerdumm04:40
HrdwrBoBand this is on YOUR machine04:40
luminerdwell the command 'gedit' doesn't work :/04:40
benplautubotu tell shammy about sudo04:40
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luminerdHrdwrBoB, thanks for the help04:41
palandiagregg_ told me about a via driver in hoary for xorg, but when i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i connot select via driver i does not appear as an option04:41
luminerdI gotta go04:41
luminerdttyl04:41
benplautbye04:41
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palandiamy chipset is VIA/S3 Unichrome Graphics04:41
direwolfha04:41
palandiahello????04:41
HrdwrBoBpalandia: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:41
rgouldHow do I get the nofitication panel to refresh? I have gaim minimized there, and I refreshed gnome-panel and now it has vanished =\04:41
direwolfon right desktop?04:42
HrdwrBoBpalandia: then search for the 'Device' section04:42
benplautrgould: it's running in the notification panel, so it'll close when you killall gnome-panel04:42
HrdwrBoBchange the driver to via04:42
ateoh211nickrud: thanks, that got me closer, I'm actually getting a handshake, but can't tell why it fails04:42
rgouldoh! doh. they aren't actually running :) thanks benplaut04:42
ateoh211nickrud: my username and password are definitely correct04:43
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palandiaok04:43
palandiai have changed from vesa to via in driver in DEvice04:43
palandiabut...Failed to load module "via"04:43
direwolfif you x'd out your buddy list i dont think you can get it back up without restarting gaim04:43
shammyHrdwrBoB: I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper, when i try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, i get an operation not permitted error, so thats why i tried su, would this mean i need to enable the root account?04:43
HrdwrBoBshammy: no04:43
HrdwrBoBshammy: what that means is the module failed to work04:44
ateoh211anyone have any trouble shooting tips for dial up?04:44
shammyHrdwrBoB: why would that be?04:44
ateoh211I'm getting a handshake but no connect04:44
HrdwrBoBshammy: have you configured it?04:44
palandiaHrdweBoB: got it?04:44
HrdwrBoBateoh211: could be the ISP?04:44
direwolfdoes isp support linux ?04:44
HrdwrBoBpalandia: ?04:44
rgouldHmm. Actually it was only gaim that shut down when gnome-panel was refreshed. amaroK is still happily running, but I cannot open the main window.04:44
HrdwrBoBdirewolf: doesn't matter04:44
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palandiaHrdweBoB: i have changed from vesa to via in driver in DEvice section and X says FAILED TO LOAD module "via"04:45
palandiaHrdweBoB: any idea?04:45
HrdwrBoBpalandia: then there isn't a via driver :)04:45
benplautrgould: sometimes a program will have a daemon that keeps it alive04:45
shammyHrdwrBoB: Uh, I guess not since I don't know what configuring there would be to do. I've installed the package, then installed the driver with ndiswrapper -i filename.inf, what else do i need to do?04:45
ateoh211HrdwrBoB: doubtfull, it's a major University and no reports on their stat pages(or in my e-mails, I'm employed and a sysadmin there)04:45
palandiaHrdweBoB: but vesa should works with VIA/S3 Unichrome right?04:45
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HrdwrBoBpalandia: vesa should work with everything04:46
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direwolfive seen dialups that need some windows program to connect ..granted they were shady type deals but nonetheless04:46
HrdwrBoBshammy: that should do it04:46
palandiaHrdweBoB: where ca i paste my Xorg. log?04:46
ateoh211is there a good log to read for pon or a way to recieve some verbos output?04:46
HrdwrBoBpalandia: pastebin.com04:46
palandiaHrdweBoB: for you to see it04:46
benplautubotu tell palandia bout pastebin04:46
Tribunehi04:46
benplautubotu tell palandia aout pastebin04:47
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Tribunehow can i get Koffice application?04:47
nickrudateoh211, sorry, just dropped back in04:47
benplauttribune: i'd assume "sudo apt-get install koffice"04:47
shammyHrdwrBoB: I had this error before, so I reinstalled ubuntu altogether, because i had been a little sloppy since i had no idea what i was doing, but the second time everything went fine, and ndiswrapper worked, but when i tryed logging back in I got an error saying it was a bad instal, so i reinstalled it and i'm back to the same error. Why would the operation not be permitted?04:48
TribuneReading package lists... Done04:48
TribuneBuilding dependency tree... Done04:48
TribunePackage koffice is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:48
TribuneThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:48
Tribuneis only available from another source04:48
direwolfsudo04:48
TribuneE: Package koffice has no installation candidate04:48
nickrudateoh211, try this: start a gnome-terminal, and execute tail -f /var/log/syslog04:48
Tribunei can't04:48
nickrudateoh211, then, in another gnome terminal, try pon. There may be some useful messages on the other terminal04:49
ateoh211nickrud: ok, LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests, connection terminated, receive seril link is not 8-bit clean: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 004:50
Tribune?04:50
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palandiaHrdweBoB: can you see my post at pastebin.com please04:50
tigliona1bitTribune: you need to add the Universe repository04:50
tigliona1bitTribune: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:50
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HrdwrBoBpalandia: paste the url to it and I will :)04:50
nickrudateoh211, I have _never_ seen anything like that, so, maybe direwolf has some pointers04:50
palandiaHrdweBoB: got it?04:51
juanchohello04:51
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ateoh211direwolf: pointers for ppp by anychance?04:51
HrdwrBoBno04:51
direwolfsorry, i dont04:51
HrdwrBoBpaste it here04:51
HrdwrBoB(the url)04:51
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Tribunetiglionalhit. thanks... i'm using Kubuntu04:51
Tribuneis it the same process?04:52
ateoh211nickrud: should I be able to see my password in the clear in the logs, I don't, but I'm just curious if that's the problem04:52
Goodspeedhow do i remove wine... its not in synaptic and its not in add or remove04:52
TribuneI'm still new in kubuntu actually04:52
palandiaHrdweBoB: pastebin.com fisrt link :S04:52
nickrudateoh211, maybe, paste the total errors to pastebin, I may recognize something :)04:52
palandiaHrdweBoB: its ok?04:52
tigliona1bitTribune: yes, same04:52
Tribunek04:52
tigliona1bitI think04:52
Tribunei'll check now04:52
tigliona1bitI'm not sure =P04:52
Tribunehahaha04:52
Tribune:))04:52
tigliona1bitshouldn't be too hard though04:52
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PurpleMotionwhat the hell is oberon?04:53
ateoh211Goodspeed: apt-get remove wine ?04:53
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PurpleMotionand who stuck me on this 'future of kde' page?04:53
direwolfquestion for the room ...which do you think is more user-friendly .. xfce or fluxbox :)04:53
Tribunebrb04:53
direwolfheh04:53
nickrudateoh211, I've diagnosed dialup errrors since 300kbs04:53
ateoh211Goodspeed: then maybe a dpkg --purge wine for good measure04:53
direwolfnickrud, my condolences04:54
Goodspeedit says wine isnt installed04:54
palandiaHrdweBoB: got my post? at pastebin?04:54
nickruddirewolf, I just started early ;P04:54
tigliona1bitdirewolf: if you're comparing the versions on APT, the fluxbox it installs is quite crippled to start off with, so definately XFCE04:54
flowini tried both xfce and fluxbox04:54
HrdwrBoBpalandia: you haven't pasted the url.04:54
flowini liked fluxbox better04:54
HrdwrBoBoh04:54
HrdwrBoB.. I'll look04:54
goldfishflux > *04:54
flowinbut it required more time to configure04:54
PurpleMotionbe VERY careful when using purge with low-level package management applications04:54
HrdwrBoBpalandia: but basically, the easier you make it for me04:54
ateoh211nickrud: i'm wondering if maybe I need our vpn client04:54
HrdwrBoBthe more I can do for you04:54
PurpleMotionive seen people FUBAR their systems using the purge option04:55
palandiaHrdweBoB: i am at lynx text version so hwo can i know my paste url?04:55
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direwolfnon-apt04:55
Goodspeedhow do i remove limewire if its not on add remove or synaptic04:55
HrdwrBoBpalandia: hrm04:55
HrdwrBoBpalandia: have you tried the 's3' driveR?04:55
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nickrudateoh211, not if it is just 'get my machine talking to another machine that will be my gateway'. But, corporate stuff cancels all normality.04:56
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b0xenI'm getting a birthday present from the Ubuntu Foundation in october :)04:56
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palandiaHrdweBoB: saw my post?....i have not tried s3 driver04:56
HrdwrBoByes04:57
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HrdwrBoBit doesn't work :)04:57
jmspeexAny clue as to why the fonts in gv look bad?04:57
palandiaHrdweBoB: vesa does not weork see that in the pasted text?04:57
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flowintheres an anti-aliasing option in gv04:57
HrdwrBoBpalandia: yes04:57
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phixionanyone know of a repository with the latest tcl in? :E04:58
yossnet81"the greeter program appears to be crashing attempting to use a different one". in addition, weird colors are coming up on my VT's in random places04:58
yossnet81i am having trouble with breezy. my xserver is broken.  when it loads , gdm looks all funky (can't see anything) except a window on top that says the above04:58
tha_gamemasteris hpfs+ write support still "experimental" ?04:58
yossnet81any suggestions04:58
Madpilotphixion: do you have all repos enabled? Universe/Multiverse?04:58
goldfishyossnet81: read topic...04:59
phixionyes Madpilot :D04:59
flowinim using breezy now04:59
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flowinseems ok04:59
jmspeexI guess I should say that gs is producing worse results (for screen display) than I've been used to.04:59
jmspeexi.e. gv, ggv and gnome-gv are affected04:59
nickrudflowin, how's your ctl-alt-f1?04:59
F0ckF3ar22Hey guys04:59
yossnet81goldfish- yeah, but my problems are nothing like anyone elses....04:59
cookiemnstrhow do i setup dial-up on ubuntu05:00
flowinwhat does ctl-alt-f1 do05:00
F0ckF3ar22I have a sony vaio currently running a crappy debian (Sarge) im trying to install ubuntu.. i have the ubuntu cd's the only thing is for some reason i cant load the cd up.. im using an external cd rom drive05:00
flowinnickrud, doesnt seem to have any effect..05:00
nickrudflowin, that's one problem with breezy right now. Should get you a virtual console. But, congrats for getting that far :)\05:01
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TremblayCould someone suggest a way to have two Ubuntu laptops see each other on the same network? NFS requires one computer to act as a server, right?05:01
flowinic.,05:01
tha_gamemasterTremblay, i still use ftp but i'm "out of date"05:01
avanspronsenTremblay, what do you want to do? copy files?05:02
flowinhad some problems.. but just dist-upgraded.. and it worked magically05:02
Tremblayavanspronsen, copy files, mostly.05:02
F0ckF3ar22oh i must be talking to mhy self05:02
F0ckF3ar22I have a sony vaio currently running a crappy debian (Sarge) im trying to install ubuntu.. i have the ubuntu cd's the only thing is for some reason i cant load the cd up.. im using an external cd rom drive05:02
avanspronsentremblay ssh?05:02
flowinF0ckF3ar22, try changing the boot order05:02
TremblayHm, does SSH have a GUI?05:02
Madeyei'm out05:02
nickrudF0ckF3ar22, again?05:03
avanspronsenyou can select Places|Connect to Server and then slect SSH05:03
cookiemnstrhow do i setup dial-up on ubuntu?05:03
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nickrudcookiemnstr, pppconfig is the canonical way to get dialup05:04
F0ckF3ar22flowin i tried05:04
flowinwhy dont u try apt-get dist-upgrade05:04
flowinand change ur repo05:04
flowin?05:04
Tremblayavanspronsen, do I have to setup something before hand?05:04
phixioncan anyone help? whats this trying to tell me? - ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | make: *** [install-start]  Error 12705:04
^thehatsrule^phixion: you need tcl installed05:05
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nickrudcookiemnstr, Applications->Terminal, then type sudo pppconfig, and enter your password if needed05:05
phixionI have it installed :o05:05
phixionhow can i see if its running?05:05
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avanspronsenTremblay: sudo apt-get ssh from a terminal05:05
cookiemnstrok i did that nickrud05:06
avanspronsensorry, sudo apt-get install ssh05:06
^thehatsrule^its the runtime libraries you need phixion, perhaps open the makefile to config it05:06
goldfisheh05:06
cookiemnstrwhat do i do to start the dial-up05:06
^thehatsrule^to show where it is?05:06
nickrudcookiemnstr, so, were you able to enter your username and passord for your isp properly?05:06
phixion^thehatsrule^, how do i open it? :)05:06
cookiemnstryes i was05:06
^thehatsrule^its a text file05:06
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nickrudcookiemnstr, then.05:07
Tremblayavanspronsen, to your knowledge, will both computers be able to act as client and server without reboots or other configs?05:07
cookiemnstryeah05:07
avanspronsenTremblay: correct05:07
phixion^thehatsrule^, the make file for the eggdrop?05:07
cookiemnstrwhats next nickrud05:07
^thehatsrule^yes, maybe you have to specify the tcl paths?05:07
cafuegophixion: 'apt-get install eggdrop' will pull in all required libraries, as well as install the actual pos.05:08
nickrudtwo commands (pon, and poff) should start and stop your internet. I usually just hit <alt>f2 (the gnome run dialog) and did pon and poff as needed05:08
cookiemnstrok05:08
^thehatsrule^bbl05:08
phixionthanks alot! :D05:08
cookiemnstri typed pon it asked for my password05:08
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cookiemnstri used my dial up password and nothing happen05:08
cookiemnstrso i tried my log on passwprd and smae thing05:08
shammy23:04:31]  -NickServ- please choose a different nick.05:09
shammy-05:09
shammyuh05:09
shammydisregard that05:09
nickrudcookiemnstr, then, let's try this: start a gnome-terminal (Applications->System Tools->Terminal) from the top menu05:09
cookiemnstrok05:10
paulproteusshammy: Okay.05:10
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cookiemnstri am in windows now so i have to chance over to try05:10
travellerwhat iptables frontend would anyone recommend?05:11
nickrudNow, so we can see what's going on: right click the top panel, and add system monitor, if you don't already have it05:11
cookiemnstrso what do i type in the gnome-terminal05:11
cookiemnstrsame thing05:11
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Tremblayavanspronsen, sorry to bother, but how do I setup accounts in ssh?05:11
nickrudcookiemnstr, pon, to start, and poff, to stop the internet, as long as pppconfig questions were answered05:12
cookiemnstrok thanks i will try that05:12
cafuegoTremblay: 'sudo adduser <username>'05:12
Madpilottraveller: Firestarter is easy to use05:12
nickrudcookiemnstr, sorry, I missed that you were in windows.05:12
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TremblayThanks.05:12
cookiemnstr:)05:12
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palandiaHrdweBoB: with vesa i got FATAL IO Error 104 any idea? anybody?05:13
palandiaHrdweBoB: with vesa i got FATAL IO Error 104 any idea? anybody?05:13
palandiaanyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?05:13
palandiaanyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?05:13
phixioncafuego, i did what you suggested and it install some stuff,  but still got the same error, in makefile it has the correct pathXREQS = /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.4.so' - any ideas? '05:13
travellerMadpilot: thanks, i'll give that a try05:13
nickrudcookiemnstr, first thing you want to do: discover if your modem is a 'winmodem'. If so, find out <exaclty> which one, and ask for help here again.05:13
avanspronsenTremblay: you use the system accounts05:13
avanspronsenTremblay: you will have at least one setup already on each machine05:14
palandiaanyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?05:14
paulproteusphixion: You don't need to compile eggdrop anymore.05:15
phixionoh05:15
phixionwell, i did sudo apt-get install eggdrop05:15
phixionwhere does it put it? :)05:15
paulproteus/usr/bin/eggdrop is where that trash is, probably05:15
phixionah ok thanks05:15
phixioni see u guys are fans of eggdrops05:15
phixion:E05:15
nickrudis ubotu an eggdrop?05:15
cookiemnstrmy modem is a  dsi d-f-v v90 di363505:16
crimsunit's a modified blootblot.05:16
cookiemnstrnickrud05:16
crimsunblootbot.05:16
cookiemnstrmy modem is a  dsi d-f-v v90 di363505:16
nickrudcookiemnstr, a sec, I'll see if there's some info on that one05:16
cookiemnstrok05:16
paulproteus!blootbot05:16
uboturumour has it, blootbot is see ubotu.05:17
paulproteus!ubotu05:17
ubotuhmm... ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".05:17
paulproteus!add05:17
ubotuhmm... add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets05:17
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Tribunequit thanks s05:17
luminerdHrdwrBoB, still around?05:17
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GoodspeedThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:17
Goodspeed  wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed05:17
Goodspeedhow do i fix this??05:17
palandia!xserver05:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, xserver is to reconfigure your Xserver, type into a terminal "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the "")05:17
HrdwrBoBluminerd: sorry, lunch05:17
palandia!via05:17
ubotupalandia: Are you smoking crack?05:17
palandiaajaja05:18
palandia!vesa05:18
ubotupalandia: I give up, what is it?05:18
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palandia!vesa05:18
palandia!help05:18
luminerdHmm...why would I get this if I'm in Kubuntu?  Couldn't find package "ubuntu-desktop".  However, the following05:18
luminerdpackages contain "ubuntu-desktop" in their name:  kubuntu-desktop05:18
palandiaplease somebody ehlp me05:18
luminerdHrdwrBoB, ok, thanks05:18
travellerdoes firestarter stop the firewall when i exit it?05:19
{linuxcraker] palandia whats wrong?05:19
crimsunluminerd: do you have the main repository enabled?05:19
palandiaasd05:19
luminerdcrimsun, umm, universe/05:19
luminerd?05:19
crimsunluminerd: no, main.05:19
flowintraveller, no.. firestarter is just the gui05:19
avanspronsentraveller: No it does not05:19
{linuxcraker] hm05:19
luminerdcrimsun, how do I do so?05:19
crimsunluminerd: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list05:20
palandia{linuxcraker] : i have a VIA/S3 Unichrome graphics card and it doesnt works with X in hoary any idea?05:20
cookiemnstrfind anything on my modem nickrud05:20
{linuxcraker] hold on.05:20
GoodspeedThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:20
Goodspeed  wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed05:20
Goodspeedcan anyone help me with this?05:20
luminerdcrimsun, do what?05:20
palandia{linuxcraker] : i have kernel for amd64 i helps?05:20
Tremblayavanspronsen, thanks, it's working. Is there a way I can restrict the access to /home/ only..?05:20
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travellerso iptables and the firestarter rules would still continue to run even if firestarter is not?05:21
xNinjahello05:21
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xNinjawhy ubuntu not debian ?05:21
crimsunluminerd: open a konsole and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:21
nickrudcookiemnstr, all I find for that thing is garbage, I would hope you can find a cheap external :)\05:21
cookiemnstrlol05:21
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luminerdcrimsun, well I know that but edit it with what? sorry05:21
avanspronsenxNinja: regular release, great community, easy to use distro05:21
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yo2khow i send a message to another user ?05:22
shanehey guys, whats my best bet for a program for setting up and burning dvds?05:22
geppyI've just installed Ubuntu Hoary onto a new hard drive, and my sound just isn't working.  Rhythmbox plays, but nothing comes out.  All relevant channels are unmuted, and I haven't had sound problems with this same onboard soundcard in the past.05:22
cookiemnstrfinding a external modem here is very hard05:22
{linuxcraker] may not be compatible palandia.. are you sure the device driver is supported for linux?05:22
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nickrudcookiemnstr, likewise, I had to compile a driver (first time in a couple of years) to use the winmodem I have now05:22
yo2kHrdwrBoB, how i send a message to another user ?05:22
xNinjaavanspronsen much easier than debian ?05:22
{linuxcraker] ..05:23
flowingeppy,  install gstreamer codecs05:23
palandia{linuxcraker] : got it?05:23
luminerdcrimsun, so what do I add?05:23
rob_ptraveller:  Yes.  All Firestarter does is load a bunch of packet filtering rules/policies into the kernel.  Unless you specifically have it remove them, they will stay intact.05:23
crimsunluminerd: you need a line containing main05:24
geppyflowin: I couldn't even hear gstreamer-properties's test stream.05:24
{linuxcraker] don't know.. maybe somthing went wrong during your installation of horray05:24
{linuxcraker] horay*05:24
{linuxcraker] hoary*05:24
flowingeppy, hmm try installing beep-media-player05:24
avanspronsenxNinja: The easiest to work with distro I have used05:24
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xNinjaavanspronsen all debian packages works with ubuntu ?05:25
VubuntuxNinja, I like ubuntu better then debian because ubuntu come set up for the desktop user. Alot is configured for you already. I had to configure my sound in debian. Ubuntu already had it working05:25
xNinjalets say debian for servers ubuntu for desktops ?05:25
VubuntuxNinja, That sounds about right05:25
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xNinjai see05:25
PurpleMotionraven??05:26
travellerrob_p: thanks05:26
xNinjalike mandriva and redhat enterprise05:26
{linuxcraker] i have a problem with xmms, it keeps freezing anyone know why?05:26
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crimsun{linuxcraker] : is the output plugin set to esound?05:26
{linuxcraker] i don't know ill look05:26
xNinjai use ubuntu also and i like it :)05:26
VubuntuxNinja, yea close to it. I feel ubuntu has more flexibility though then mandriva and redhat05:26
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xNinjayeah sure with the apt-get :)05:27
{linuxcraker] no it wasn't but now it is05:27
{linuxcraker] will that fix it?05:27
crimsuntry it.05:27
VubuntuxNinja, :)05:27
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{linuxcraker] haha your my hero dude05:27
{linuxcraker] it worked05:27
{linuxcraker] thank you05:27
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SysFailhas anybody gotten squashfs put into ubuntu kernel???05:28
{linuxcraker] nope05:28
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xNinja:)05:28
VubuntuSysFail, what is it?05:28
SysFailneed it to do a live-cd05:28
SysFailits a compression05:28
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SysFailbut it has to be built into the kernel it seems05:28
rob_ptraveller:  No problem.  By the way, in case you are interested in a firewall alternative that is designed to automatically load at boot time, and is designed for Ubuntu, you can get it here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/05:29
xNinjaVubuntu the configuration files same as debian? i am thinking to buy a debian book05:29
{linuxcraker] sysfail, is your bios screwed up? i had a problem with the live and it was somthing screwy in the BIOS05:29
SysFailall I wanna do is make a live-cd bosed off my ubuntu install05:29
SysFailbased05:29
{linuxcraker] oh nvm then05:29
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travellerrob_p: i'll check it out05:30
SysFaili think they used morphix for the ubuntu live-cd05:30
SysFailso there has to be a way to do this05:30
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voyage34question: how can I remove a package from apt-get's list of packages to grab when I apt-get install something. I have a package that keeps erroring out when I apt-get . I dont want it but not sure how to remove it05:30
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voyage34tia btw05:30
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SysFailouch05:30
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VubuntuxNinja, for now I have found they are similar except for the Xserver base install for stable Debian.05:31
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xNinjaVubuntu so u suggest to by the book no big differents?05:31
rob_ptraveller:    Let me know what you think.  It's been through several revs now and I believe it to be a good firewall solution for Ubuntu.05:31
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travellerrob_p: the page doesn't seem to be loading05:32
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xNinjai am thinking about Debian GNU /Linux 3.1 Bible (Bible) any suggestions ?05:33
rob_ptraveller:  that's odd!  let me double-check the URL...05:33
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VubuntuxNinja, well I have worked with Debian and Ubuntu but I haven't gotten really deep into debian. So I can't really give you a good answer on that question. I do think Ubuntu is going to be changing alot in the future.05:33
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xNinjai see05:33
travellerrob_p: i think it's firestarter, i stopped it and the page loads05:34
VubuntuxNinja, you might be able to get a book on debian for cheap though :)05:34
rob_ptraveller:  Ok... whew!  I was worried for a minute :)05:34
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xNinja:)05:34
Doonzhey is anyone familiar with the real magic hollywood plus card?05:34
voyage34question: how can I remove a package from apt-get's list of packages to grab when I apt-get install something. I have a package that keeps erroring out when I apt-get . I dont want it but not sure how to remove it05:34
Doonzit has a tv out im wondering if i hook it up will i see my monitor on my tv05:35
travellerrob_p: it's odd that firestarter would block it05:35
xNinjainfact i want to buy a books collection aiming for hacking/ethic05:35
shanewould anyone know  a good program for burning and setting up dvds05:35
VubuntuxNinja, like 5 or 10bucks used. So that way you won't be wasting you money if you find alot of different things about ubuntu.05:35
rob_ptraveller:  Yeah, that is odd!05:35
travellerrob_p: it seems that the block was triggered by a traceroute from the server05:36
xNinjai want to go for hacking/security to be good in hacking to be more good in security05:36
SysFailshane: k3b05:36
rob_ptraveller:  triggered by what?05:36
travellerrob_p: a traceroute, it is logged by firestarter in events05:37
VubuntuVubuntu, I"m mainly a desktop user. So i'm by no means an expert with Debian or Ubuntu. I have used Slackware,fedora, suse, mandriva also. So i'm no newbie eaither :)05:37
Vubuntuack lol I mean xNinja05:37
tha_gamemasterati + linux = headache?05:37
palandia{linuxcraker] : are you there?05:37
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^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: yea thats right05:38
rob_ptraveller:  as in a traceroute being done from my server to you?05:38
xNinjai want to take Hacking Exposed 5th Edition, Gray Hat Hacking : The Ethical Hacker's Handbook Nessus, Snort, & Ethereal Power Tools : Customizing Open Source Security Applications/ Network Security Assessment / Network Security Hacks05:38
travellerrob_p: that's what it says on the log05:38
{linuxcraker] yes05:38
xNinjai want to be a hacking/security/analyzer expert :P05:38
xabierexit05:38
tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, darn, i was hoping to use some ati cards for a PVR box, guess i'll buy the wintv with the hauppage chip05:38
{linuxcraker] sorry05:38
VubuntuxNinja, good we need more :)05:38
^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: well uh, what card have you got now?05:38
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rob_ptraveller:  I do have a Web-based traceroute utility on my website... but what are the chances...  hrm...05:39
tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, ati all in wonder radeon ...32MB and 64MB one's a 7000 something i think05:39
xNinjaVubuntu need more of what ? ethical hackers ?05:39
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^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: thats not supported by official drivers, youll have to get your hands on 3rd party drivers05:39
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^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: official supports radeons 8500+05:40
VubuntuxNinja, sure :) The more the better to get out systems secure as possible05:40
xNinja:)05:40
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tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, ah these are too old then, thanks, *laughs* my brother is having a nightmare with his ati under winblows, and I enjoy my linux without error05:40
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^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: hehe, you can buy 3d drivers if you need it... XiG i think it was05:41
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coldfile1162can i use the ubuntu add-on cd with kubuntu?05:41
tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, buy drivers you say? i'm confuzzled...05:41
^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: yea, theyre commercial05:42
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ZincXhow can i remove the ~ on my ident /05:42
^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: ati's just starting to give a little linux support for their new cards...05:42
tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, is this the company you were talking about ? http://www.xig.com/Pages/Summit/HdweSupported/ChipINDEX.html05:42
ZaphoidBBI just installed Ubuntu "Horay Hedgehog" and I use a PS2 mouse. I just did a fresh install, but my mouse wont work! How can I fix this?05:43
coldfile1162CAN I USE THE UBUNTU ADD_ON CD ON KUBUNTU?05:43
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VubuntuxNinja, so what linux distros have you tried?05:43
SysFailcouldnt hear you coldfile116205:43
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SysFailwhat?05:43
Quest-Mastercoldfile1162: turn off caps lock~05:43
coldfile1162oh sorry05:43
^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: yeah, xig :)05:43
ZincXhow can i remove the ~ on my ident /05:43
^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: i know it should work, cause AA recommends it for linux05:44
shammy how can I determine what chipset my wireless networking adapter is?05:44
xNinjaVubuntu now i have debian as vhosting server running as main server and ubuntu at laptop and i am a RHCE but after taking it i left the rh :D05:44
^thehatsrule^shammy: look on the chip itself05:44
tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, cool, thanks. I'm looking at all this hardware and just aching to do something linux with it, but not too many ideas.05:44
coldfile1162can someone tell me if i can use the ubuntu add-on cd on kubuntu?05:44
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^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: yeah, heh... i had my hands on a radeon 7k too, but didnt bother to buy the drivers05:44
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tha_gamemastershammy, lspci05:45
shammytha_gamemaster: in my case, lsusb, right?05:45
shammysince it's an adapter05:45
balistic22Hey i have a vaio taht i just did a floppy install to download debian (sarge) and i recently just got a hold of an external cd rom drive05:45
palandiadoes anyone has compiled the via driver for unichrome?05:45
balistic22and im trying to install ubuntu but i cant05:45
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VubuntuxNinja, good to hear :). Soon ubuntu will rule the world! :)05:45
xNinjaVubuntu i also tried freebsd but not alot05:45
tha_gamemastershammy, you are quite correct05:45
craig__Hey05:46
xNinjaVubuntu u sure ?05:46
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tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, separate question, any suggestions how to set up linux to act as a port restricter between one computer and the network? i just want to allow like 4 ports to one machine05:46
VubuntuxNinja, yea me too. I tried freebsd too but didn't more care for since you have to configure every little thing on it lol05:46
tha_gamemasterVubuntu, i'm looking at OpenBSD05:46
craig__I have a problem with my network the xp system can see my ubuntu system but i can seem to see my own shared folder05:46
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^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: like a linux router? try using some firewall, like iptables05:47
craig__Any ideas why this would be?05:47
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Vubuntutha_gamemaster, how is OpenBSD?05:47
tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, yea just like a router, but EXTREMELY restrictive05:47
^thehatsrule^tha_gamemaster: yea you can just config it in the firewall05:47
ZincXhow can i remove the ~ on my ident05:47
tha_gamemasterVubuntu, apparently the most secure of all the BSDs, but i've yet to install it successfully *laughs*05:47
ZincX??05:47
xNinjaVubuntu i dont know why i love the freebsd/devil :P but debian/ubuntu seems to told me no debian/ubuntu is here05:47
ZincXno one knows aen ?05:47
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tha_gamemaster^thehatsrule^, cool i've got to look at it...05:47
craig__It was working fine last night but does not seem to be working now05:48
^thehatsrule^:)05:48
Vubuntutha_gamemaster, haha all I got to say is goooooooooooood luck. :)05:48
^thehatsrule^heh i hear freebsd is supposedly the best choice ;p05:48
SysFailnothing wrong with freebsd05:48
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SysFailused it for 6 years05:49
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travellerare there any other firewall frontends that will start at boot and provide a gui?05:49
regeyasplits are fun05:49
palandiaanyone can help me downloading the kernel source with apt?05:49
palandiaplease05:49
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VubuntuxNinja, well Freebsd is nice if you like full control in configuring everything. But in my experience it all leads to the same thing. A Working System LOL05:50
regeyatraveller, when you say 'any other' what are we ruling out here05:50
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avanspronsenpc-bsd looks promising, simple package management, install asks just a couple of questions05:50
craig__can anyone help how do i find my shared folder on my network i cant seem to see it anymore05:50
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Vubuntuavanspronsen, yea i've tried pc-bsd too. It I think it will go far in the future! It's super user easy. I liked it05:51
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travellerregeya: anything basically, i've tried firehol but it logs to /var/log/messages and messes up dmesg, shorewall is a bit too hard for me to configure05:51
tha_gamemasterpalandia, sudo apt-get install linux-source05:51
avanspronsenVubuntu: I dropped it fast though because they don;t yet do gnome05:51
SysFailregeya: you wanna use a dedicated linux box for this?05:51
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Vubuntuavanspronsen, oh yea. I start having withdrawl symtoms when I don't got my gnome. And it's not pretty! :)05:52
regeyaSysFail, tab-completion sucks sometimes, don't it?05:52
SysFailwasnt it you looking for the firewall thing?05:53
xNinjaVubuntu lol :)05:53
avanspronsenVubuntu: me too :-)05:53
xNinjaavanspronsen why gnome not kde /05:53
hondjeAnyone use multisync?05:53
ZaphoidBBHow do I go about installing Azereus on Ubuntu?05:53
kestascan anyone recommend a good wireless pcmcia card for my laptop which will work with ubuntu?05:53
benplaut!azureus05:53
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ubotubenplaut: Are you smoking crack?05:53
regeyatraveller, I've not used it with Ubuntu but I've used Firestarter on other Linux distributions.  It's pretty simple.  I can't vouch for it being ultra-safe but I had no problems.05:53
benplautno, i'm not05:53
tha_gamemasterkestas, orinoco05:54
ZaphoidBB!azureus05:54
kestask thanks05:54
regeyaSysFail, I asked traveller a question about traveller's GUI firewall question.05:54
benplautZaphoidBB:  www.ubuntuhuide.com05:54
SysFailok05:54
benplautwoops05:54
avanspronsenxNinja: Kde just seems to be too much.  HArd to explain, gnome is simple, responsive05:54
SysFailnm then05:54
hondjeI like the rules firestarter makes, really well done I think05:54
benplautubuntuguide.org05:54
travellerregeya: hm...does firestarter load up on boot?05:54
f_newtonyes traveller05:55
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regeyaavanspronsen, well said.  I wish there were a happy medium between gnome's simplicity and kde's ultra-configurability...I remember when it was the other way around...lol05:55
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f_newtonits running from boot and if you call the gui you are only opening up a configuration window05:55
thewarriorhey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work05:56
f_newtonregeya, and when was that ever the case?05:56
nickrudI hadn't looked at firestarter's rules for a while; they certainly are shorter :)05:56
ZaphoidBBI ran apt-get install azureus.. All it said was that it could not find package azureus05:56
avanspronsenregeya: it is hard to explain a personal preference to someone else :-)05:56
regeyaf_newton, a few years ago.05:56
thewarriorhey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work05:56
VubuntuxNinja, gnome gets the Job done. I feel like I got too much laying around with kde. It just seems that way05:56
f_newtonuh ok whatever you say regeya05:57
regeyaf_newton, if you have a specific objection to what I said just spit it out :-)05:57
balistic22how do i find out what my architecture is "Running debian"05:57
thewarriorhello?05:57
regeyaf_newton, what was your opinion of kde 1.x vs. gnome at the time?05:57
nickrudregeya, 1.0.56, maybe :)05:57
f_newtonI dont... everyone is welcome to their opinion but honestly kde has always been massive bloat since day one05:57
kestasI just got a new laptop and installed ubuntu on it but the problem is the synaptics mousepad is really unsensitive to tapping on it to make mouse clicks, is there any way of increasing the sensitivity05:57
kestas?05:57
black13nomasteryoda?05:57
balistic22Omg..05:58
f_newtongnome has always been a lot easier to run even before kde 105:58
balistic22i need some help05:58
thewarriorhey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work. what do i click on to get it to work i just installed ubuntu like 30 mins ago05:58
windexf_newton, i know. almost as bad as the kernel. who the heck needs ppc support anyway?05:58
regeyaf_newton, that has little to do with my comment about role-reversal of the projects, but thanks for sharing05:58
f_newtonIdontg05:58
tha_gamemasterkestas, any wireless card with the prismII chipset should work also05:58
ZaphoidBBI ran apt-get update.. Then an apt-get install azureus... But it is still saying package not found.05:58
thewarriordoes anyone here use teamspeak?05:59
kestastha_gamemaster, do you have a wireless system set up? can I pm you?05:59
calcgnome was pretty yuck until 2.005:59
f_newtonwell the non rh version was thats true05:59
xNinjahey Vubuntu are you a live:)05:59
thewarriorDoes Anyone use teamspeak i need help with it05:59
f_newtonmost distros used kde because it was an everything including the kitchen sink window manager06:00
VubuntuxNinja, no i'm a dead :)06:00
kestastha_gamemaster, do you know of a wireless set up which is cheap, can reach the whole house, and is linux compatible?06:00
f_newtonkestas, netgear06:00
tha_gamemasterkestas, yea you can pm me06:00
xNinjaVubuntu ooh thats bad then who i gona hack when i be an expert :P06:00
balistic22Im running a debian kernel (sarge) and i was trying to install ubuntu off of debian because i didnt have a cd rom drive.. now i have an external cd rom drive and im having trouble booting ubuntu can i get some help06:00
kestasit doesnt have to be fast, have a firewall, or 1 billion config options06:00
thewarriorHello can anyone see my writing06:00
regeyano, thewarrior, try retyping it06:01
thewarriorlol06:01
avanspronsen:-)06:01
VubuntuxNinja, how about bill gates. :) #rm windows :)06:01
thewarriordoes anyone here have teamspeak??06:01
balistic22hey i guess no one wants to help me06:02
thewarriori installed the linux version but i cant get it to run06:02
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avanspronsenthewarrior: sounds sound like it bud?  Have you tried google?06:02
f_newtonkestas you can get an entire package including wifi cards from netgear G for around 50 dollars sometimes as low as 30 dollars06:02
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avanspronsenthewarrior: sorry, doesn't sound like it, have you tried google?06:03
thewarriornope hey gocheck out www.justfuckinggoogle.com06:03
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xNinjaVubuntu nice aiming :P06:03
kestasf_newton, is that with crappy range? Id like to be able to use wireless form the whole house06:03
Kamping_Kaisercan anyone here connect to austnets IRC servers?06:03
VubuntuxNinja, :)06:03
kestasf_newton, could you give me the name to google?06:03
balistic22Which ubuntu cd should i use if its 'I68606:03
f_newtonkestas unless you live in a house the size of bill gates shoppingmall sized house yes06:03
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f_newtonkestas NETGEAR06:04
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avanspronsenbalistic22: there is only 1 CD06:04
kestasf_newton, k :) netgear it is06:04
balistic22 hteres other cds depending on architecture06:04
balistic22Ok right now on my other lap top06:04
f_newtonkestas, there are other brands out there too but make sure they are linux compatible before you buy them06:04
balistic22i see Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 debian22 tty106:04
balistic22IM trying to access the cd rom for install06:05
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balistic22WHat DO I DO06:05
f_newtonnetgear is usually the least expensive of the major brands06:05
avanspronsenbalistic22:  you can update the kernel afterwards via apt-get06:05
balistic22avanspronsen how06:05
kestasf_newton, how do you tell if a netgear is linux compatible?06:05
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f_newtonmost netgear cards use the intersil prism2 driver06:05
balistic22avanspronsen how do i get to apt... and for some reason i installed gnome but there were some errors with the screen06:05
f_newtonwhile some super g cards etc use the 2.5 and may not be out of the box compatible ndiswrapper takes care of it06:06
ZaphoidBBI just did a fresh install of Ubuntu. And when I try to apt-get install sun-j2rel.5 as per http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre it says E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.506:06
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hondjeanyone using multisync?06:06
avanspronsensudp apt-get install kernel-image-686 from a terminal06:06
BurgundaviaZaphoidBB, better guide at wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:06
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nickrudcookiemnstr, you still around? I got called away by work, didn't get a chance to finish your modem question06:07
f_newtonkestas, My suggestion is to shop around, do some reading, and check the compatibility site06:07
avanspronsenbalistic22: you can also go to System -> Administration -> synaptic package manager for a gui06:07
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balistic22i dont have a gui06:08
balistic22and it just told me06:08
f_newtonbalistic22, you running sarge?06:08
ZaphoidBBHeh, using the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java I ran the command apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it still says "Couldn`t find package"06:08
avanspronsenZaphoidBB: did you install the additional repositories?06:09
ZaphoidBBI just saw that, and I am an idiot for not reading 100%. I apologise.06:09
shammynormally when i put a disc in the drive, it auto mounts it and puts an icon on the desktop, but now it isnt recognizing it at all, i need the kernel headers to get my wifi going so i need the install disc06:09
avanspronsenZaphoidBB: NP :-)06:09
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BurgundaviaZaphoidBB, the page was badly done, I have redone it06:10
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ZaphoidBBUniverse and Multiverse.. I love the obscure refrence there :)06:11
nickrud!components06:11
balistic22f_newton yes i am running sarge06:11
ubotumethinks components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view06:11
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f_newtonI guessed that from your no gui statement yep you dont have one06:12
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jrattner1Is unbuntu good for laptops06:13
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avanspronsenjrattner1: It works great on my Thinkpad t41P06:14
TeeagooColony2what is more fast KDE or GNOME? ( my pc is a k6 500, 256 ram... )06:14
Adrenlineim also using it on a t4106:14
ratl3xfce06:14
f_newtonjrattner1, I think so ... its been good on mine so far06:14
Adrenlineworks great06:14
jrattner1even with new hardware06:14
jrattner1I cant get anything to go to well on my machine06:14
avanspronsenjrattner1: my T41p is about a year old06:14
avanspronsenjrattner1: using a docking station is another matter though :-)06:15
balistic22I cant access m yfuckin cd rom drive06:15
balistic22sorry for language06:15
PurpleMotioncalm down06:15
PurpleMotionhow are you trying to access it?06:15
kestasf_newton, http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG511.php seems cheap and good, but it doesnt say linux is supported06:15
kestashow can I tell?06:15
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Xenguyeeeez gun balistik mate !06:16
f_newtonlook up what driver it has... you can do that by checking driver.com against the model # of the card06:16
Adrenlineanyone know how I find the name of a package im looking for? example: I need to install the samba libs. dont know the name to pop into apt to do such.06:16
PurpleMotionbenplaut:  got my new video card today, m806:16
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balistic22howdo i whipe out everything on my hardrive and start from scratch06:16
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f_newtonbalistic22, do you have an ubuntu cd?06:17
avanspronsenAdrenline: you can do a sudo apt-cache search <text> to help narrow down the possibilities06:17
depravejust put the cd in your cdrom, set cd bootable, reinstall06:17
balistic22f_newton yes i do06:17
balistic22deprave i cant my comp wont recognize the thing.. it says it sees the usb external cd rom drive but it wont boot from it06:17
PurpleMotionbalistic22:  reinstall ubuntu and tell the installer to erase the disk06:17
shammyWhy won;t it recognize the drive and put an icon on the desktop anymore when i put a cd in? I need to get the kernel headers but can't without the install cd06:17
nickrudbalistic22, boot the hoary install, and tell the installer to use the whole dis06:17
nickrudk06:17
ZaphoidBBOne last question. can ubuntu cure the common cold? If it can, what is the package name in apt?06:18
depravebalistic22: interesting06:18
balistic22the computer cannot load the cd up06:18
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balistic22its an external cd rom drive i dunno what to do06:18
avanspronsenshammy: have you removed the CD entry from /etc/apt/sources.list?06:18
depravebalistic22 : shake your fist at it and say "lookie here mr, take it and love it!"06:18
depravebut really.06:18
benplautgrr... bored2k, come online06:18
depravehmm06:18
PurpleMotionbalistic22:  does your bios have an option to boot from usb?06:18
balistic22lol06:18
shammyavanspronsen: nope, this is a fresh install and i've done nothing but reconfigure x06:18
balistic22PurpleMotion no it doesnt06:19
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avanspronsenshammy: if you remove the cd entry you will force apt to go to the online repositories06:19
Adrenlineanyone here had trouble compiling mplayer with smb support?06:19
balistic22i dunno what to do06:19
shammyavanspronsen: I need the kernel headers so i can install ndiswrapper and get my internet working, so i can't get the online repositories06:20
avanspronsenshammy: gotcha06:20
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depravebalistic22 : unfortunately i don't know the solution to your problem.06:20
shammyavanspronsen: what is the cdrom's name so i can mount it manually?06:21
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Lancellorhow do i do to change a video card giv me and error when is booting06:21
balistic22ugh...06:21
Adrenlineanyone on the mplayer/smb thing?06:22
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BeatYouam i lagging or something?06:22
depravehow did you get it on there the first time?06:22
f_newtonballistic your cd rom drive will free itself on reboot if absolutely necessary but do you know the cli for operating it?06:22
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skalpelis there a way to make rhthymbox scan for new music on start/06:23
skalpel?06:23
nickrudprobably, I've been lagging a bit now and then06:23
BeatYoustrange06:23
avanspronsenshammy: depends, how many hard drives?06:23
balistic22whats cli f_newton06:23
nickrudas if the net always works :)06:23
calccli == command line interface06:23
f_newtoncommand line interface06:23
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shammyavanspronsen: 2 hardrives, one cdrom/dvd drive06:24
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crispynix-v6oi06:24
avanspronsenshammy: /dev//hdc06:24
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clintonwhen i type aptitude install libwcgtk2.4 it does nothing!06:24
clintonbut when i search for it06:24
shammyavanspronsen: ok thanks06:24
clintonit shows up06:24
clinton(and i don't already have it :()06:24
avanspronsenshammy: give it a try, let me know06:24
balistic22how do i find out the cli06:24
clintonerm06:25
clintonlibwxgtk2.406:25
balistic22cant i just whipe out the whole efin hard drive and start from scratch06:25
shammyavanspronsen: one more thing, suppose it gets mounted correctly, how can i specify the cd is in that dir to get the headers?06:25
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f_newtonbalistic22, what is your goal?06:26
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calcbalistic22: yea it asks you if you want to erase the whole drive and install to it06:26
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avanspronsenshammy: just do your apt-get install, it should find it if it is mounted06:26
balistic22f_newton  i want to install ubuntu on this mini laptop06:26
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clintonhow do i install libwxgtk2.4 for audacity :(06:26
shammyavanspronsen: thanks alot06:26
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f_newtondo you have a web browser loaded or do you have the cdrom for ubuntu?06:27
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balistic22I have a cd rom for ubuntu06:27
balistic22i ordered like 50 million06:27
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avanspronsenshammy: np, I am just learning this stuff too, hopefully I got you going in the right direction :-)06:27
f_newtonok balistic22 reset the machine and when the bios is reloading open up your cdrom drive and insert the ubuntu disk06:27
f_newtonit will be unlocked at that time06:28
SteveB_how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?06:28
f_newtonthen reset and follow instructions06:28
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balistic22F_newton ok let me try that06:28
f_newtonok06:28
balistic22f_newton you know this is an external cd rom drive right06:28
balistic22plugged in through usb06:28
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Lancelloranyone how to change a video card get a error when booting06:29
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clintondoes anyone know a good recording program?06:29
clintonalternative to audacity??06:29
f_newtonno I didnt06:29
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f_newtonhang on a second then06:29
balistic22f_newton yeah its a plextor dvdr drive06:29
balistic22f_newton ok06:29
f_newtonthats y you cant find your cdrom drive then06:29
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f_newtonbalistic22, in your bios dont you have a boot from usb device option?06:30
Lancellorhttp://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/   try this06:30
f_newtongive me the make n model of your lappy06:30
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balistic22SOny VAio Pcg-c1xs06:30
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f_newtonah the vaio06:30
clintonthanks lancellor06:30
Lancellorthe audio software  http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/06:30
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balistic22came with an external floppy06:30
balistic22is all06:30
f_newtona lot of money for a very little bit of hardware06:31
balistic22i got it free06:31
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f_newtonok.... well it does have a boot on usb option in the bios06:31
f_newtonunless its an old old one06:31
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f_newtonwell free is a great price06:31
balistic22well it came with win 9806:31
SteveB__how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?06:31
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f_newtonhmmm06:31
shammyavanspronsen: i just tryed mounting the cdrom drive, it's spinning and the terminal is at a blank line, like something is happening..but it's still going, how long would it take?06:31
f_newtonbalistic22, let me check the stats on that model...brb06:32
balistic22f_newton ok i really appreciate you helping me out06:32
f_newtonbeen there balistic22 been there.06:32
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avanspronsenshammy: shouldn't take long at all06:32
Xenguyshammy: Ctrl-C ?06:33
shammyXenguy: what does that do? the comp is upstairs06:33
Xenguyshammy: returns a hung session to a command prompt06:33
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balistic22lol06:34
shammyok thanks06:34
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avanspronsenshammy: If you type mount in a terminal windows you don't see a line with /media/cdrom?06:34
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shammyavanspronsen: i need to go do ctr c like xenguy said, but last time i looked it was still processing something06:35
avanspronsenshammy: ok, sounds good06:35
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SteveB__how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?06:36
balistic22random question.. i forgot what was my root login name.. how do i find out what names are in the sudoer file06:36
Kamping_Kaiserbalistic22: only root can read the sudoers file06:36
Kamping_Kaiserlive cd time ;)06:37
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balistic22well i forgot the root sn06:37
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Brunellusis only the first user added to sudoers by default06:37
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Kamping_Kaiserbalistic22: did you create one? try using sudo06:37
MobusHow do I cd into a folder whose name has a space in it?06:37
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Brunellusor is every subsequent user added, too?06:37
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Kamping_KaiserBrunellus: yes06:37
Kamping_Kaiserjust first06:37
Brunellusawesome.06:37
Kamping_KaiserMobus: using "\ "06:37
balistic22nvm06:37
Kamping_Kaiserthe \ is to escape the space06:38
XenguyMobus: escape the space with a '\' character06:38
Mobusso it'd be #: cd folder\name?06:38
nickrudBrunellus, if you want some to  have sudo privs, add them to th admin group06:38
f_newtonbalistic22, ok ... this is a pII 400mhz machine with only 64 megs of ram and a 2 gig hdd   you dont need to be setting up any linux gui enabled os on it06:38
f_newtonthere isnt enough room06:38
f_newtonor memory speed06:38
Brunellusno, I don't want them to have sudo privs...no way.06:38
Kamping_KaiserMobus: folder\ name06:38
Mobusah thanks06:38
nickrudlol. Brunellus good choice :)06:38
BrunellusI shudder to think what my mother could do with sudo privs!06:38
Kamping_Kaiserf_newton: more RAM and it would be fine06:39
balistic22f_newton i dont understand06:39
f_newtonKamping_Kaiser, more ram and more hdd space06:39
Brunellusnot like she knows how to do anything...but all those GUIs are so tempting, and so easy to break by messing with them inadvertently06:39
Brunellushell, I know from bitter personal experience!06:39
Mobusthanks bunches06:39
Kamping_Kaiserf_newton: 2 gig is fine06:39
Kamping_Kaiserfor Ubuntu06:39
nickrudgdm root privs, by any chance Brunellus ?06:39
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Kamping_KaiserMobus: all good06:39
f_newtonbalistic22, u dont have the system resources to run a linux gui  you barely have the resourcese to run win9806:39
Brunellussay again nickrud?06:40
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f_newtonnot for a gui install it isnt06:40
balistic22so what do i do... ? Throw the laptop out the window06:40
Brunellusf_newton:  false06:40
lirazDoes anyone know of a program similar to kalarm for gnome(since trying to download kalarm forces me to basically download all kde libs). I want it mainly for the timed reminders...06:40
Brunellusyou can run a linux GUI with very limited resources06:40
Brunellusit just requires very careful package selection06:40
Brunellusyou can't run GNOME, for sure06:40
Brunellusbut IceWM or Fluxbox or Openbox, sure06:41
f_newtonok fine... what w/m then?06:41
Xenguyliraz: just d/l the KDE lib's :-)06:41
BrunellusI'd go with flux06:41
f_newtonwe are only talking 2g hdd...06:41
Kamping_Kaiserliraz: try using evolution06:41
nickrudfluxbox, if I can't use gnome06:41
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Brunellusf_newton:  have you started looking into DamnSmallLinux?06:41
f_newtonyeah or xfce06:41
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Brunellusthe whole distro is 50 MB06:41
nickrudno, fluxbox, for me ; P06:42
f_newtonIve got a linux install on a floppy drive06:42
balistic22f_newton what should i do06:42
Brunellusright.  this isn't a 'how small can you make your distro' contest...06:42
f_newtonbut its not gonna be what a n00b is expecting at all06:42
f_newtonhe cant run sarge06:42
nickrudit's what works, and where it works06:42
Brunellusif the choice is between the computer that works06:42
Brunellusand the computer that doesn't06:42
f_newtonright06:42
lirazKamping_Kaiser, does it have timed reminders which pop up on my screen without running the whole e-mail client?06:42
ColonelKernelsarge is ok, I dont like the whole xfree86/gnome2.8 thing06:43
Kamping_Kaiserliraz: i believe so, but i don't use it06:43
BrunellusI'd teach him to use the computer that works. and I'd either go with DSL or with ubuntu as configured in the lowmem wikipage06:43
Brunellus(and the associated forum howto)06:43
SteveB__how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?06:43
Kamping_KaiserSteveB__: i cant help, sorry06:43
f_newtonbalistic22, If it was me, but honestly if these fine folks have a better solution for you it wont hurt to listen, but if it was me I would try to get bigger memory and a bigger hdd first then read the data on google results from linux on your laptop06:44
balistic22Brunellus f_newton What do you guys think i should do.. i mean i have more then 2gb hardrive this thing has more space then that06:44
Brunellushow much RAM have you got?06:44
f_newtonwho changed your drive balistic22 ?06:44
Brunellusif you have around 128 MB, I'd go with XFCE06:44
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Brunellusbut you'd also need to find a way to automout removeable storage...which shouldn't be that bad06:45
balistic22f_newton this laptop belonged to my cousin and when he had win 98 the thing said 10 gb of space06:45
f_newtonthe web site said you have a 64mb ram 2gig hdd06:45
balistic22actually 1306:45
b0xenHey, anybody have any idea what the default root password on the Ubuntu Live CD is?06:45
Brunellusb0xen, there is none....06:45
Kamping_Kaiserb0xen: there isnt one afaik06:45
f_newtonbalistic if you have that much load ubuntu06:45
Brunellussudo 'ubuntu'06:45
SteveB__how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?06:45
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b0xenit wont let me su into root06:45
balistic22f_newton how do i load the effin cd06:45
b0xenblank password doesnt work either06:45
nickrudf_newton, I'm lagging, but the 'mem & disk' is fine advice06:45
luminerdhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35011806:45
fr500b0xen, sudo su?06:45
b0xensudu: command not found06:46
Brunellusf_newton: I'd add one caveat--a full-bore Ubuntu install is going to be dog-slow06:46
f_newtonyeah I know Brunellus he isnt going to be happy06:46
avanspronsenb0xen: sudo06:46
fr500b0xen, sudo06:46
Brunellusf_newton:  I'd go with xfce or flux06:46
f_newtonits only a 400mhz p206:46
b0xensudu: command not found06:46
f_newtonsudo06:46
Brunellusf_newton:  that's plenty for flux06:46
Kaiser_essenf_newton: i have run Ubuntu on pentium 200s with 96 MB of RAM06:47
b0xenooooh06:47
b0xenlol06:47
balistic22im using it just to hold on to music06:47
Kaiser_essen"just a 400" doesnt stand up ;)06:47
balistic22thats all im doing06:47
b0xenthanks lol06:47
BrunellusKaiser_essen:  did you run GNOME?!06:47
b0xeni feel dumb06:47
balistic22and at least run aim06:47
balistic22what should i do06:47
Kaiser_essenmy parents box is a 400 with 128 MB of RAM06:47
Kaiser_essenBrunellus: yes06:47
BrunellusGott im Himmel.06:47
f_newtonwell heck first check your bios to see if you can boot from usb device06:47
f_newtonif you can set it to that06:47
SteveB__how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?06:47
f_newtonthen stick the cdrom in the sucka and hit enter06:48
Kaiser_essen*I'm gone*06:48
BrunellusI'd have gone with flux with that little RAM.  you were pretty brave to stay with GNOME06:48
Kaiser_essen:)06:48
balistic22f_newton i would of tried that by now... the only 3 options cd rom drive , hardrive , and floppy06:48
balistic22when i try cd rom drive it dont do jack06:48
f_newtondo you have a ?06:49
balistic22what do you mean f_newton06:49
f_newtondo you have the floppy driver disk for your usb device?06:49
Brunellusbah.06:49
f_newtoninstall that at boot if it has command.com on it with the ubuntu disk in the cdrom drive06:50
fr500how would you do a net install if the bios doesnt support pxe?06:50
balistic22f_newton yes i do have the floppy06:50
shammyI installed the kernel headers with synaptic, but where does it install them? I need the path06:50
f_newtonI am thinking rooburger right about now...06:51
f_newtonso I may be signing off for a quick trip to jack in the box06:51
f_newton...06:51
shammyis it /usr/src/linux?06:51
balistic22f_newton is there a way i can get an ubuntu boot disk that willl recognize the cd rom drive06:51
f_newtonhunger is devasting stuff06:51
f_newtonbalistic22, only if you can get the bios to recognize your cdrom drive and since you dont have the drive  you are going to have to boot the driver for the device from the floppy06:52
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f_newtonunless you dont have a floppy either06:52
Doonzwhats the command to see how much ram i have?06:52
f_newtonbalistic22, you need to go online and find the right stuff for your laptop and get it... try ebay06:52
balistic22f_newton im gonna just put xp on it06:53
f_newtonbeing vaio it may cost ya som bux06:53
f_newtonxp is goint to take 1.25 gig just for the os alone06:53
balistic22im also thinking of buying a laptop for when i go away to college06:53
balistic22what should i do06:53
f_newtonand it may not load with only 64meg of ram06:53
balistic22or buy06:53
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fr500balistic22, do you have broadband access to internet?06:54
balistic22yes06:54
fr500balistic22, and the issue is?06:54
fr500what is not working i mean06:54
balistic22what issue?06:54
f_newtonfr500 if you can get him to use sarge's cli browser to net install you are one patient fella06:54
fr500i thought you had a problem06:54
balistic22fr500 i do have ap roblem06:54
fr500f_newton, why not ubuntu pxe boot?06:55
balistic22Fr500 what fnewton said06:55
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fr500balistic22, all you want to do is install ubuntu?06:55
balistic22yeah i guess06:55
balistic22but i dont have a cd rom drive06:55
f_newtonI will be back in about 15 minutes.... burger run !06:55
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balistic22k thanks f_newton06:55
f_newtonyer welcome06:55
fr500balistic22, do you have another pc?06:55
f_newtonlol06:55
balistic22fr500 yes i do06:55
balistic22im on it right now06:55
fr500with.......say xp06:55
balistic22yess'06:56
fr500ok06:56
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fr500let me find the link for you06:56
fr500it's real easy06:56
balistic22im talking to you from a thinkpad t22 with windows xp06:56
balistic22the issue is im trying to install ubuntu on a sony vaio pcg c1xs06:56
seife`yo06:56
balistic22its a shitty little comp06:57
LinuxDoltok...  how do i make it so also doesn't load certain sound modules?06:57
balistic22but im trying to fix it06:57
LinuxDolt*alsa06:57
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fr500balistic22, it's cool06:58
conciselinuxubuntu does not detect the modem06:58
fr500give me a sec06:58
balistic22kk06:58
conciselinuxd link modem06:58
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isaihow to interchange the functions between two keys. I have laptop and want to change the function between the CTRL and FN keys.06:58
LinuxDoltanyone know where the config files for alsa are located in this distro?06:59
fr500balistic22, this is all you need06:59
fr500https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28windows%2906:59
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balistic22ok let me look at it06:59
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Brunellusok stupid xchat question07:01
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Brunellushow on earth do I make xchat display whatever I enter in a more legible colour than grey?07:01
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LinuxDoltBrunellus: I know, the new defaults are nasty.07:02
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jianshii think it's /etc/also07:02
BrunellusLinuxDolt.  yeah, it's a pain in the arse07:02
jianshi- /etc/alsa07:02
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BrunellusDo you know how to get it back to how it used to be?07:03
bingobangoanyone using dual monitors?  i tried running the fglrxconfig utility, but i just end up with the same content on both screens.  :(07:03
LinuxDoltBrunellus: unfortunately, you can't, unless you can remember the exact color scheme they used07:03
seifeyo07:03
seifewhats the link07:03
seifeof "what windows users want"07:03
fr500balistic22, you may need http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/etherboot/etherboot-5.4.0.tar.gz to boot if your bios does not support pxe07:03
BrunellusLinuxDolt:  all I want to know is what color it sets for messages I type07:04
Brunellusit isn't fg, it isn't bg07:04
nickrudBrunellus, LinuxDot, yes, I had it once where I was red :)07:04
LinuxDoltBrunellus: you can, however, change the color scheme to what you want via Settings/Preferences/Colors07:04
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Brunellusyes, I've been messing around with that07:04
Brunellusbut what number does it assign to your own messages?07:04
seifeIS ANYONE HELPING ME, THX.07:04
Brunellusseife:  the FindPage link on the Wiki is your friend07:05
Brunellusor indeed google.  "what windows users want ubuntu"07:05
nickrudseife, what was your question?07:05
seifeone guy07:05
LinuxDoltBrunellus:  it's either 14/30, something like that07:05
Brunellusawesome.07:05
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seifeposted a link that have all the programs that ubuntu uses07:05
nickrudnot saying I have the aswer, just listening :)07:05
seifethe title was something like what windows users want07:05
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Brunellustest07:05
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fr500balistic22, g2g, hope you succeed, otherwise look at netboot at the ubuntu wiki07:05
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BrunellusI think I've got it07:06
Brunellusnoah, darn.07:06
LinuxDoltwhoever told me to check in /etc/alsa for my problem, it ain't there.07:06
nickrudeh07:06
LinuxDolti already checked that before coming in here to ask about it :D07:06
Brunellustest07:06
Brunellusyes.07:06
LinuxDoltBrunellus:  glad i could help07:07
Brunellusyaaaay.07:07
Brunellusis there a manpage somewhere that tells me where all these colorbindings are?07:08
cryptomatti have a couple of problems with my ubuntu install.. i am running hoary... whenever i do directory renames from within nautilus or deletes.. it crashes.. the percentage of this happening is as high as 25%...07:08
cryptomattthe second problem is that my desktop doesnt refresh if i copy files on to it, unless i explicitly execute a refresh07:08
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cryptomattany suggestions??07:08
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nickrudBrunellus, it's in xchat's settings->preferences->interface-colors. I did that once.07:08
conciselinuxwhen is the next ver going to get released ????07:08
deFryskoct afaIk07:09
Brunellusnickrud:  that shows me a table of colors with numbers07:09
LinuxDoltdoes ANYONE have any idea on how to help me?07:09
BrunellusI was hoping I'd learn what the numbers matched up to07:09
LinuxDoltBrunellus:  i did it via guess and check...07:09
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xmen90shey ive done a little bit of searching but i cant seem to find the solution to my problem ... i cant connect to the internet with ubuntu 64bit ( ive tried several solutions ive found on the net, but none work )07:10
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xmen90sdoes anyone know where i can get some resources on this?07:10
nickrudpick and test. best adivce: look at the 4 grey colors. I don't remember the exact match, but those matter07:10
deFryskBrunellus, /j #xchat07:10
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TziHi =)07:12
TziYou're right - Breezy's X is still broken :P07:12
TziThat'll teach me07:12
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yo2khi guys...07:13
ofer0holla :P07:13
yo2ki want to setup 2nd eth, how i can do that...07:14
shanehey guys, what would be my best bet for a dvd building and burning program???07:14
conciselinuxHOW MUCH DOES UBUNTU CD COSTS ???07:14
LinuxDoltBrunellus:  ehh...  i'm thinking i'm going right back to gentoo after this.  it's the most unstable distro available, but at least i know how it works07:14
shaneconciselinux, i think they ship them for free.....07:14
BrunellusGo with what you know, I guess, LinuxDolt07:14
Dr_WillisLinuxDolt,  having sound issues?07:14
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BrunellusI love ubuntu...to bits.07:14
shaneyea it seems pretty nice07:15
Brunellusalthough I'm looking into gentoo as a project system07:15
LinuxDoltDr_Willis: aye.  ubuntu wants to use my onboard, but i want to use my SB Live!07:15
pestilenceBrunellus: don't waste your time07:15
Dr_WillisLinuxDolt,  cant disable it in the bios eh? I seem to see this kind of problem quite often mentioned.07:15
Brunelluspestilence, why07:15
deFryskLinuxDolt, turn off your audio in bios to make it work07:15
pestilenceLinuxDolt: how about blacklisting the module for your onboard soundcard07:16
yo2ki want to setup 2nd nic, how i can do that...07:16
BrunellusI mean, I like ubuntu....but I'm always interested in what else is going on.07:16
conciselinuxedubuntu ????07:16
pestilenceBrunellus: there's no advantage over ubuntu07:16
conciselinuxcan i order it ?07:16
ofer0gentoo is not for daily use.07:16
LinuxDoltpestilence: i've thought of that, but i can't seem to find the module definitions07:16
deFryskofer0, yes it is07:16
pestilenceLinuxDolt: /etc/hotplug.d?07:16
Brunellusstill interested in finding out.07:16
ofer0deFrysk, only for long-term installtions07:16
LinuxDoltahhh.  see, i've never used hotplug before07:16
pestilenceLinuxDolt: oops, /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:17
LinuxDoltpestilence: let's see if this works then07:17
ofer0using gentoo is a good idea only if you plan to use the same distro for 5 years07:17
deFryskofer0, what does that have to do with dayly use ?07:17
ofer0deFrysk, COMPILING07:17
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Brunellusthe long compile times turn me off....07:17
Brunellusbut I'm just interested in seeing what all the fuss is about07:18
pestilenceBrunellus: i'd be more inclined to experiment with a BSD than gentoo07:18
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LinuxDoltget a good fast computer and give it a decent overclock.  compile times no longer mean anything :D07:18
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pestilenceLinuxDolt: yea right.  you must have some *really* powerful machines.07:18
LinuxDoltget a few fast computers and then use distcc07:18
ofer0well, you only need to compile these tools: gcc, kernel, package manager, and heavy apps07:18
pestilenceLinuxDolt: you shouldn't need a cluster to run a desktop07:19
ofer0and i forgot - gnome07:19
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ofer0why to compile x-chat for example?07:19
ofer0why to compile mplayer, firefox, etc..07:19
LinuxDolti should be able to choose exactly what goes into my system from the very beginning too.  udev and hotplug are not mature enough for me to want to be using them yet07:20
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luminerdhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35011807:20
luminerdPlease ?07:20
samhi07:20
samim new to ubuntu07:20
pestilenceLinuxDolt: synaptic doesn't give you that freedom?07:20
ofer0LinuxDolt, you can do all the things you do in gentoo, in ubuntu. (without those annoying use flags ofcourse)07:20
Dr_Willisheh07:21
Dr_Willishello sam07:21
ofer0sam has quit..07:21
deFryskso much nonsense about gentoo i havent heard in a long time07:21
kestasdoes ubuntu use NX memory?07:21
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kestasthat is, does it use the extra security provided by NX memory?07:22
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kestasnon-executable memory that is07:22
LinuxDoltblah.  i know how to use gentoo.  i've been lost since i first downloaded the iso for this one07:22
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Dr_Williskestas,  that is somnthing i have never heard mentioned.... one way or the other.. or at all.. :P07:22
Dr_Willislost?07:22
Dr_Willisgee its very well documented.07:22
pestilenceLinuxDolt: once you get to know apt, you might like it.  man apt-get07:23
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kestasDr_Willis, okay, well you know whether ubuntu uses NX memory?07:23
pestilenceLinuxDolt: it's much better than emerge, imo07:23
kestasDr_Willis, I dont get what youre saying07:23
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ofer0deborphan is a great solution for un-needed dependencies07:23
pestilencekestas: he's not talking to you07:23
Dr_Williskestas,  i have NOT seen any mention of the 'nx' stuff in any linux disrto or kernel versions at all..07:23
kestaspestilence, then why did he say 'kestas' before he said it?07:24
Dr_Williskestas - it would be a kernel version feature then I guess.07:24
pestilencehahaha07:24
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tjbonzoI'm trying out ubuntu - mainly because I got tired of Debian lagging (i.e. Xorg, ...), but now I'm trying to install "gcompris", but ubuntu lags Debian unstable - is there a "unstable" repository?07:24
kestasDr_Willis, k I see07:24
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pestilenceok, i gotta get outta here.07:24
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Dr_Williskestas,  heck the thing is barely supported under windows it seems. I enabled the feature.. and have only seen one program ever get in trouble with it. Not sure if thats good or bad.07:25
Brunellustjbonzo:  you could try adding the debian repos07:25
Burgundaviatjbonzo, yes, it is called breezy07:25
Brunellusbut this is generally *not recommended*07:25
Burgundaviatjbonzo, it is quite unstable right now07:25
danI can't open openoffice, when I try to open it in terminal I see this: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:25
Brunellushey Burgundavia, whats this I hear about an eyecandy-friendly new xorg in breezy?07:25
BurgundaviaBrunellus, what do you mean?07:25
BurgundaviaBrunellus, the exa stuff hasn't gone in yet07:26
tjbonzoBs: so breezy over debian or take my pick?07:26
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Brunellusok.  is breezy mostly frozen?07:26
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Burgundaviatjbonzo, both breezy and sid are quite unstable07:26
BurgundaviaBrunellus, sort of07:26
Brunellush'm.07:26
Burgundaviaslushy07:26
Brunellushahahaah.  I like drinking slushies07:26
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Brunellusnot running them on my home box.  so I'll wait for release07:27
cryptomatthi everyone07:27
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Burgundaviathere is still a lot of new stuff going in, for specific goals07:27
cryptomattnautilus crashes in my machine often.. when i delete or rename files or such07:27
PurpleMotionskalpel:  hai, fscker07:27
skalpelhai07:27
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skalpelwhat's up?07:27
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PurpleMotionssdd, bro07:28
ofer0http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123219541.jpg07:28
tjbonzoBurgundavia: so if I go with breezy (i'll google for the repos) - is there a way to "pin" just the one package: apt-get -t unstable install gcompris07:28
PurpleMotionyourself?07:28
skalpeli am fine, thank you for asking07:28
Burgundaviatjbonzo, yes07:28
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cryptomattapparently absence of FAM is the problem, when i try to install FAM through apt-get it says that i should uninstall a lot of other packages, which is mostly everything on my box.07:28
Brunellustjbonzo:  apt-pinning works the same as apt-pinning in Debian, I think07:28
skalpelpurplemotion: do you know how to use oidentd?07:28
Burgundaviaofer0, how does qemu deal with the reboot?07:29
tjbonzoBrunellus: so does "-t unstable" pull it from breezy or do I do "-t breezy" ?07:29
ilba7ris there a thread or howto for making mirror image to the home directory <like a backup>07:29
ofer0Burgundavia, great.07:29
nickrudBurgundavia, is there a new page that links to breezy's goals?07:29
Burgundaviatjbonzo, breezy07:29
Burgundaviaubuntu names their distros07:29
Brunellus-t breezy07:29
Burgundavianickrud, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals07:29
tjbonzocool - thanks much guys...off to play some more07:29
yo2ki want to setup 2nd nic, how i can do that...07:29
ofer0Burgundavia, very very fast reboot, without all that bios shit like in vmware..07:29
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nickrudhasn't changed, then07:29
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Burgundaviaofer0, cool07:30
Burgundavianickrud, there is a meeting tomorrow to recap on goals07:30
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skalpelhow do i change my username and pass in ubuntu?07:30
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nickrudpardon me, it has :)07:30
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tjbonzoskalpel: System->Admin->User and Groups07:31
liranwhats an efficient way of checking in "real-time" when su has been invoked to root?07:31
Burgundaviaskalpel, your password is easy, your username is a little more involved07:31
skalpeli thought it would be07:31
lirani mean, other than doing something like "cat /var/log/messages | gerp su"07:32
tjbonzoskalpel: ahhh...you want to just change your user name but keep all your files/settings?07:32
skalpelyes07:32
skalpelsame user, just different name / pass07:32
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cryptomatthi everyone, nautilus repeatedly crashes on my machine.. am using hoary.. this happens after a file delete or a file rename.. not everytime but almost 25% of the time.. any clues?07:33
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tjbonzoskalpel: I've never done it, but in theory it should work (YMMV), you could try it first with a bogus test user - but if you just change the name in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group that should do it07:34
cajunis anyone having trouble with gtkboard updating?07:35
conciselinuxy is ubuntu good ?07:35
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ilba7ris there a thread or howto for making mirror image of the home directory <like a backup>07:35
Dr_Willisconciselinux,  its a very well done, and polished desktop focused disrto.07:35
tjbonzoskalpel: the theory part is that linux really stores the userid, so if you change the userid to user name mapping, it should work07:35
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skalpelhow do i request a feature for breezy badger?07:36
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Brunellusskalpel, getting a bit late for breezy now...07:36
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skalpelwell, then for a future release. it is really bugging me that ubuntu does not do that and windows does.07:37
ilba7rskapel what you want to do07:37
Burgundaviaskalpel, what feature?07:37
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skalpelthe ability to sort audio file in the file browser by album name, etc07:37
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skalpelit seems like it ought to go along well with integrated disc burning07:38
Burgundaviathat would take some major integration07:38
Burgundaviabest place to ask for that is upstream, with gnome07:38
skalpelit is a major feature for those of us who like music07:38
skalpelk07:38
Burgundaviaskalpel, http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list07:39
Burgundaviathat is the list you want to raise it on07:39
skalpelty07:39
cajuni keep getting the following error message when i try to update: "E: gtkboard:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9"07:40
benplautanyone here know anything about e16 in gnome?07:40
cajunhow can i fix that?07:40
r0dwhere do you configure modprobe to see custom modules? /etc/modprobe.d/arch?07:41
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Burgundaviacajun, remove gtkboard, upgrade and then reinstall it07:41
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glickhehe i have 11 computers in the house now07:42
depraveanyone have a good suggestion on an html editor?07:42
depravenothing too fancy etc.07:42
glickdeprave, bluefish07:42
Burgundaviadeprave, screem or bluefish07:42
depraveroger07:42
depravethanks07:42
glickone of em is a 100mhz pentium wone07:42
IcemanV9glick: trying to start a business? :p07:42
glickIcemanV9, hehe actually i am07:42
glickbut not with these computers07:42
glicki just acquired a p2 running windows 98 today with a dvd drive07:43
glickfigure ill rip out the dvd, use one as a general desktop07:43
glickuse it as a smoothwall firewall07:43
IcemanV9glick: repair? then, you're falling behind :P07:43
yo2khow i install squid?07:43
IcemanV9with 11 PCs07:44
r0dgeez u guys ever hear of vmware lol07:44
glickIcemanV9, what do you mean repair?07:44
glickthey all work07:44
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Burgundaviacajun, reinstallation of gtkboard?07:45
cajunyup07:45
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Burgundaviacajun, you running hoary?07:46
IcemanV9starting a business; ppl dropped off PC @ ur place for repair .. that's what i am aiming for :)07:46
Zaphoid``Anyone reccoment a good VNC viewer for windows thats OSS?07:46
cajuni think so07:46
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cajuni haven't upgraded to breezy07:47
IcemanV9yo2k: try squidtaild? not familiar with what they have for ubuntu07:47
Burgundaviacajun, report a bug about it07:47
yo2kIcemanV9, how if squid2.5stable10 ? can ?07:47
BurgundaviaZaphoid``, tightvnc07:47
cajunk07:47
Burgundaviacajun, it is a universe bug, so it goes in malone07:47
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mebaran151yeah, archlinux sucked07:48
Zaphoid``Burgundavia does that work with the default Ubuntu VNC server?07:48
mebaran151it doesnt work ..., though abs was a neat portage idea07:48
cajunnevermind....found the bug reporting tool07:48
BurgundaviaZaphoid``, vnc is a protocol, like tcp. Many apps speak it07:49
Burgundaviacajun, that doesn't work07:49
cajunoh07:49
IcemanV9yo2k: again, i am not familiar with squid .. i just found them in apt-cache search07:49
cajunok...then what shall i do?07:49
Zaphoid``Thank you Burgundavia07:49
danI can't open openoffice, when I try to open it in terminal I see this: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:49
Burgundaviahttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug/+login07:49
yo2kIcemanV9, thank's...07:49
danhow do I fix that?07:49
_SD_KeoI need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..07:49
yo2kIcemanV9, how i configure 2nd ethernet card ?07:50
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IcemanV9ifconfig07:50
IcemanV9or .. system > admin > networking07:51
yo2kmy pc setup as server07:51
yo2krun in text mode07:51
mebaran151how would I use the alsa drivers I get from cvs?07:51
IcemanV9ifconfig, then07:51
mebaran151my snd card is only supported by the patched cvs drivers07:52
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Deanodriverhi07:52
mebaran151I'd like them to become part of the alsadrivers package07:52
Deanodriverif i use cfdisk to add a new partition to a hard drive, and set it to type 83, does that set it as ext2 or ext3?07:52
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Deanodriver(bought a new hard drive, trying to partition it)07:53
Deanodriver:)07:53
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ofer0Deanodriver, i think its EXT307:53
Deanodriverok then07:53
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Deanodriveri'll try it then :)07:53
Deanodriverthanks07:53
ofer0:)07:53
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Deanodrivernow to edit /etc/fstab :)07:54
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Vubuntuhey anyone using openbox here?07:54
_SD_KeoI need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..07:55
Deanodriverhow would I set options for a user to write to it? just set umask=000 like with a far32 partition?07:55
Deanodriver*fat3207:56
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_SD_KeoI need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..07:57
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Deanodriverwould this line be fine if i wanted non-root users to write to it?07:58
depravein bluefish how do you view the page as it would be seen on the web page07:58
Deanodriver/dev/hdd1       /files2         ext3    umask=000       0       007:58
depraveinstead of editing it in raw html07:58
Deanodriverdoes bluefish do wysiwyg?07:58
f_newtonno Deanodriver07:59
Deanodrivercould always load it in firefox07:59
f_newtonget nvu07:59
Deanodriveryeah07:59
f_newtonmozilla has a wysiwyg html editor07:59
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Deanodriverso have i got /etc/fstab properly set up for this new drive? :)07:59
depravewhat's nvu08:00
Deanodriverwysiwyg html editor :)08:00
^Cricket^does anyone know how to rebiuld a reiserfs tree?08:01
depravewhats wysiwyg08:01
Deanodriverwhat you see is what you get08:01
f_newtonwhat you see is what you get08:01
HrdwrBoB^Cricket^: use the reiserfs repair tool...08:01
_SD_KeoWhat if the tool fails?08:02
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jayCan someone help me convert from linux to windows?08:02
HrdwrBoBjay: that's not what we do here08:03
HrdwrBoBwhat's your problme08:03
Deanodriverwe convert people the other way :P08:03
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nickrudBurgundavia, thanks for the heads up about the meeting, I'll enjoy listening, if I can make it.08:03
jayI know however I'm asking out of the generiousity of the people here.08:03
jaygenerousity*08:03
mejobloggshi, my ubuntu keeps locking up all the time. How do i go about fixing it?08:03
Madpilothi all - was there a big netsplit about two hours ago?08:03
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Burgundavianickrud, indeed08:04
f_newtonwell get some salt water in a bucket, two butter knives and an electrical outlet... now take off your shoes....08:04
nickrudheh, and, damn, typing is not talking08:04
HrdwrBoBjay: what exactly is the problem08:04
Deanodriverdoes anyone out there have an idea of what options i should set in /etc/fstab for an ext3 partition if i want users to write to it?08:04
Deanodriverwould umask=000 work?08:04
Deanodriver(which i have set for a fat32 partition in this system08:05
jayWell I deleted the windows pertition and windows was preloaded onto my computer.08:05
zaphoidWhen I click on system -> Administration -> Shared Folders. Ubuntu is saying that I need samba or NFS installed. Now I have samba installed (I can browse my other network shares on windows computers) Whats up with this?08:05
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jayI don't have any intention of totally getting rid of linux only having multiple OS08:05
Deanodriverwith dualboots, you generally have to install windows first08:05
Deanodriveriirc08:05
deprave!nvu08:06
ubotuit has been said that nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.08:06
jayThat's kind of the problem....08:06
Deanodriverbrb08:06
Deanodriverreboot08:06
HrdwrBoBjay: ok, that's easy08:06
HrdwrBoBooh08:06
skalpelirssi08:06
HrdwrBoByou deleted windows08:06
f_newtonyou can do it the other way around Deanodriver but its a lot more work08:06
HrdwrBoBjay: use the disks that came with your computer to reinstall it08:06
f_newtonthats my solution HrdwrBoB08:06
jayThey didn't.08:06
HrdwrBoBif it didn't come with disks, go back to where you bought it from08:06
HrdwrBoBif it's not a valid licensed copy of windows, buy one08:07
f_newtonlol he doesnt have a windows install disk?08:07
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jayTried that, they said you had to make a recovery disc and that they couldn't do anything.08:07
jayHeh, yeah right buy a windows cd >.>08:07
jayLet me get that $200 out of my pocket08:07
f_newtonwell jay run ubuntu08:07
f_newtonits a very good os08:08
jayNot alone when you would also like to play games heh -_-08:08
f_newtoninstall cedega08:08
skalpelmy computer came with recovery software that does not quit until linux is eradicated08:08
skalpelim lucky to be using linux as it is. sh. do not tell emachines.08:08
skalpeli boot in fear for my safety08:09
f_newtonemachines lol08:09
skalpeland that of my linux partition08:09
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f_newtonI have a reconfiguration tool for most emachines08:09
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zaphoidWhen I click on system -> Administration -> Shared Folders. Ubuntu is saying that I need samba or NFS installed. Now I have samba installed (I can browse my other network shares on windows computers) Whats up with this?08:09
Madpilotskalpel: what do emachines do to their boxes?08:09
f_newtonhey spanglesontoast how ya doin?08:09
spanglesontoastI'm ok08:10
spanglesontoastjust managed to get this other machine a mate gave me to work08:10
spanglesontoastto enter the bios08:10
f_newtonglad to hear it08:10
skalpelthere is a fat32 partition, rather small, that automatically repartitions and restores windows xp if anything is done to it08:10
spanglesontoastyou have to switch the jumper08:10
spanglesontoastit's kinda silly08:10
f_newton? is that a tandy?08:10
skalpelmakes it very difficult to dualboot08:10
spanglesontoasttandy?08:10
skalpeland often interferes with the installation of any other os08:10
Madpilotskalpel: damn. can't you nuke that partition with one of Ubuntu's utils?08:11
^Cricket^O_o spangles......08:11
^Cricket^o/08:11
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spanglesontoasthello crick08:11
skalpelmadpilot: someone told me a way but as i still do not have the windows install discs i need i am holding off on it. but yes, i will soon08:11
spanglesontoasthmm08:11
f_newtonskalpel you can get rid of that .... but you need to turn that bios function off first08:11
spanglesontoastthis processor fan is like a hoover08:11
^Cricket^yes /me runs ubuntu08:11
_SD_KeoHow many people must I kill to ask one question? -_- the fsck ---rebuild-tree tool failed with an errorcode of 6...08:11
skalpelf_newton: there is some debate as to whether it really is a bios function, soemoen told me it is just a boot partition that like to stay where it is =)08:11
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spanglesontoastI'm not sure weather or not to have it as a gui server08:12
f_newtonthe bios is instructed to look there first and from there there is a pointer to you mbr08:12
spanglesontoastah08:12
txskyah08:12
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f_newtonthat was for skalpel08:13
spanglesontoastah08:13
spanglesontoastlol08:13
cafuegoWell, adding 200Mb of some-suid root software that eats 128MB of ram on a server is um....08:13
f_newtonyeah yeah yeah...08:13
zaphoidE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:13
zaphoid when I try to run apt-get install samba08:13
spanglesontoasthmm08:13
ajmitch_SD_Keo: the manpage says that an errorcode of 6 means fixable errors left uncorrected..08:13
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spanglesontoastit's just I could use insecure webmin08:13
spanglesontoastor use vnc08:13
f_newtonsome kid is out in the parking lot doing donuts08:13
cafuegospanglesontoast: vnc through ssh08:13
f_newtonlol idiot08:13
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f_newtondaddy must buy his tires08:13
skalpelf_newton: well someone told me there is a way to flash the bios and remove it but i do not even have a disk drive to perform that function08:13
mebaran151what version of alsa is in Breezy and which is in Hoary08:13
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glickhey how do i disable those crappy awefull "plunk" sounds whenever i click on something08:13
ajmitch_SD_Keo: your question is at once rather vague & specific :)08:14
spanglesontoastlol08:14
mebaran151I know the one in Hoary works and the one Breezy doesnt08:14
glickas well as the gnome startup sounds08:14
f_newtonskalpel dont believe that one08:14
f_newtonyou are running a custom bios08:14
spanglesontoastwhat I love about ubuntu08:14
mebaran151I dont like the color brown08:14
skalpelhow do you go about removing software from the bios?08:14
spanglesontoastis theres lots of packages08:14
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Deanodriverhi08:14
Burgundavia_SD_Keo, I hate to say this, but I don;t think anyone here has the answer. You might want to google it08:14
mebaran151why cant ubuntu have blue colored themes08:14
skalpelf_newton: that is what i thought originally08:14
f_newtonits not software08:14
Burgundaviaspanglesontoast, guis on a server is complete insanity08:14
HrdwrBoBf_newton: yeah even when I was into cars heavily, I didn't do burnouts, $250 a tyre gets old very quickly08:14
mebaran151what is _SD_Keo's question08:14
Deanodrivernot getting this to mount :|08:14
f_newtonyou have to turn that function off08:14
f_newtonso that bios wont perform that operation08:14
ajmitchBurgundavia: it's a reiserfs issue08:14
Burgundaviamebaran151, the default gnoem ones are provided08:14
skalpelf_newton: how do i do that?08:14
mebaran151Burgundavia, that aren't ugly......08:15
spanglesontoastit's just a 466mhz08:15
spanglesontoastthat's all08:15
f_newtonI dont know I would have to look at that machine08:15
f_newtongood enough spanglesontoast08:15
spanglesontoastand the graphics card can actually handle x08:15
mebaran151Gnome is relaly quite nice when you them it well08:15
ZincXhow can i remove the ~ on my ident ?08:15
f_newtonubuntu would be the way to go08:15
mebaran151but I really wish didnt overload all the time08:15
Burgundaviamebaran151, ubuntu is going to be brown for the foreseeable future08:15
Deanodriver"VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdd1."08:15
mebaran151Burgundavia, I know08:15
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mebaran151Fedora has the color scheme down pat08:15
mebaran151too bad it doesnt work08:15
f_newtonwell I can change that for myself Burgundavia08:16
spanglesontoastnewton08:16
Burgundaviaf_newton, say again?08:16
spanglesontoastit could end up somewhere else if it's brown08:16
Burgundaviaajmitch, say again?08:16
f_newtonthe earth tones08:16
f_newtonI can change those myself08:16
f_newtonthe way it comes is fine with me08:16
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spanglesontoastoh08:17
ajmitchBurgundavia: _SD_Keo's issue was from running fsck.reiserfs, I gave him an answer just before you said that noone knew08:17
mebaran151how do I use ALSA cvs drivers08:17
Deanodriveranyone?08:17
Burgundaviaf_newton, ah, ok. I didn't follow where you were coming from08:17
spanglesontoastthat's why the live doesn't work08:17
Burgundaviaajmitch, ah, ok08:17
spanglesontoastit's only got 64mb08:17
spanglesontoastlol08:17
ajmitchspecifically, using the --fix-fixable flag to fsck08:17
f_newtonI like the boot splash screen that it shows ya not the one ya get08:17
f_newtonyou know the nice young ladies looking up with the low cut dresses?08:17
_SD_KeoI had used the fixable flag, but there are serious errors that needed to be rebuilded..08:17
_SD_Keo**rebuilt08:18
f_newtonthat is one sweet bootsplash screen08:18
f_newton but its not the one ya get08:18
ajmitch_SD_Keo: sorry, I'm just going from what the manpage tells me, if it cannot fix them, then I don't know08:18
glickis there anyway in the gnome file browser and can get a forward and back button08:18
glick?08:18
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glickand also so it doesnt open up a new window at the default size?08:18
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glickjust one window, whatever size i make it and forward and backward buttons would be nice08:19
shane_someones picky08:19
f_newton64 meg hmmm well you can probably play pong with it08:19
Burgundaviaglick, change to browser mode08:19
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glickBurgundavia, how do i do that>?08:19
Burgundaviaglick, edit--->prefs08:20
glickBurgundavia, tjamls08:20
glickthanks08:20
Burgundaviaglick, 2nd tab, tick "open in browser windows"08:20
shane_does anyone know of a good dvd maker/copyer for ubuntu????08:20
zaphoidIs there a GUI configuration tool for Samba in Ubuntu?08:20
HrdwrBoBshane_: yes, any08:20
zaphoidshane_ truthfully. I use dvd shrink through WINE :) It's great.08:20
zaphoidI would love to see dvdshrink ported over to linux.08:21
Burgundaviazaphoid, install samba and then go to system-->admin-->shares08:21
shane_HrdwrBoB, all the programs i use only have data dvd08:21
skalpelis there a replacement cdplayer for ubuntu?08:21
shane_and i want to put all my aquateen volume 3's i have on avi on to dvd....any ideas?08:21
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Madpilotskalpel: you've noticed that the default one is awful too, right? ;)08:22
zaphoidBurgundavia, I did that. And set up a share. But when I try to log into that share through windows. It asks me for a username and password. Which I never set up, and neither my linux login or windows login is correct.08:22
skalpelmadpilot: not awful, but not great =)08:22
xmen90sive been trying to get the network working on this ubuntu 64bit for like 3 days now ... and no dice08:22
xmen90sive googled, searched the forums, etc08:23
glickbrowser mode is much better08:23
xmen90scant find anything that works for me08:23
Burgundaviazaphoid, hmm08:23
glickand now that those crappy sounds are gone08:23
skalpelmadpilot: did you find one that is better?08:23
glickand i got my nvidia working08:23
glickits a nice system08:23
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Madpilotskalpel: does yours hang when it hits the end of a CD? and no, I haven't found better. haven't looked, really08:23
xmen90sdoes anyone think they could help me, or point me to where i could get some help?08:23
shane_i cant get my radion 9550 to work :-(08:23
skalpelmadpilot: i have yet to listen to acd all the wya through. i hope it does not hang though08:24
skalpelgoodnight #ubuntu08:24
skalpelrock, rock on.08:24
Madpilotskalpel: it probably will... i always seem to be forcekilling mine. see you later08:24
xmen90snobody ... ?08:24
Madpilotxmen90s: checked the wiki?08:24
xmen90syeah08:24
xmen90si found one thing that seemed to be perfect ... but it didn't work :(08:25
xmen90sbasically, when i install ubuntu, the dhcp stuff doesn't work08:25
xmen90sif i have the protocol to that, and i try to load a web page it automatically says cant connect08:25
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xmen90si cant ping other computers on the network08:26
xmen90si cant do anything08:26
xmen90sbut ...08:26
spanglesontoasthow good is a ubuntu web server?08:26
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xmen90sif i try to statically assign ip08:26
xmen90sthen i try to load web page ... it sits for like a min, then times out08:26
xmen90sand08:26
xmen90si can ping other computers on the network08:26
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xmen90si can even ping an ip from outside the network08:26
xmen90sbut cant load pages or anything08:26
xmen90sits uber weird08:27
zaphoidxmen90s, check your DNS settings08:27
xmen90si checked my router and it gave me some dns addresses08:27
xmen90si added those and it didn't work08:27
xmen90sthen08:27
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xmen90si tried to add the ip of my router instead08:27
glickhow do you remove a software package that was installed via package?08:27
xmen90sand that didn't wokk either08:27
zaphoidWhat is your router's IP addy? And your DNS server?08:28
zaphoidAlso, are you the only computer on this network?08:28
xmen90sno, there are 4 other computers on the network08:28
xmen90smy routers ip is 192.168.2.108:28
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xmen90sthe primary and secondary dns's im getting from my router status page, i guess just what the isp sent08:29
zaphoidMake sure your IP does not conflict with others on the network. Then go in and set your IP to 192.168.2.2  MASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY 192.168.2.1 DNS *Whatever your DNS server is*08:29
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balistic22hey can someone help me out with a net boot i am attempting08:30
balistic22net boot install for ubuntu08:30
zaphoidAble to ping other boxes, but not load a webpage definatly sounds like a DNS error to me.08:30
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balistic22hey can someone help me out with a net boot i am attempting to install ubuntu using net boot08:31
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xmen90swell the dhcp assigns ips from 192.168.2.100 to .10908:31
zaphoidBurgundavia, Any ideas on this Samba problem?08:31
wildcowboyhi08:31
wildcowboyanybody08:31
balistic22anyone not busy08:31
xmen90sthanks zaphoid for listening08:31
balistic22id appreciate some help08:31
xmen90sill try some more dns stuff :)08:31
wildcowboyi'm not balistic2208:31
wildcowboyon what?08:31
zaphoidxmen90s,  Whats your netmask that is given with you use DHCP?08:32
zaphoidwhen*08:32
balistic22hey wildcowboy im doing a netboot and i pretty much have everything set on my xp laptop08:32
xmen90szaphoid : Subnet Mask:  255.255.255.008:32
zaphoidIf it's 255.255.255.0 (Standard for most routers) giving yourself an ip of 192.168.2.2 should be fine.08:32
xmen90sso just a standard one08:32
balistic22i just need to know how to run the pxe08:32
balistic22on the other comp08:33
xmen90sokie dokie, ill be around, thanks08:33
zaphoidYea, just use 192.168.1.2 NETMASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY 192.168.2.1 DNS *Your DNS server* and it should work.08:33
zaphoidnp08:33
wildcowboyy don't you just do it the normal way instead of netboot08:33
wildcowboyi take it you're a newbie, right08:33
balistic22yeah i guess08:33
wildcowboydid you download the discs?08:34
balistic22but my laptop doesnt have a cd rom and i tried everything and netboot install is the only thing that i havent tried08:34
zaphoidOk, going to re-ask my question. I installed samba (Default apt-get install samba style) and set up a share. When I try to log into that share from windows it is asking for a username and password. Any ideas?08:34
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balistic22i have the cd08:34
wildcowboyjust do it from the cd08:34
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wildcowboymuch easier08:34
HrdwrBoBzaphoid: yes, you need to use smbpasswd to set users passwords for samba08:34
wildcowboyare you familiar with linux at all?08:34
balistic22wildcowboy i dont have a cd driver.. only an external one and my other lap top wont load from it08:34
travellerwhat do i need to install in order to watch an encrypted dvd? i can't seem to find libdvdcss08:34
zaphoidThanks HrdwrBoB08:34
balistic22wildcowboy yes i am08:34
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xmen90szaphoid : did the same thing with fedora ... you just have to set a windows username and link it to your linux username then the password for your linux account will work08:35
ofer0http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123223576.jpg08:35
wildcowboyinteresting08:35
balistic22wildcowboy ive used ubuntu before i know how it works.. trust me i installed a whole debian system with out 2 floppys08:35
wildcowboydid you try the help page?08:35
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balistic22yeah but it doesnt explain the pxe08:35
Burgundaviazaphoid, sorry no08:35
wildcowboyfeasible08:35
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xmen90swoops08:35
xmen90sheh08:35
xmen90s:)08:35
balistic22yup08:35
wildcowboydo you know the path to find your ip address?08:36
wildcowboyand all of that stuff?08:36
zaphoidzaphoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo smbpasswd08:37
zaphoidCan't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it08:37
balistic22wat do yo umea08:37
wildcowboydo you know how to locate that info?08:37
xmen90shmmm08:37
xmen90sis smbd and nmbd running?08:37
zaphoidYea =/08:37
balistic22no i dont08:37
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PurpleMotionso now ive been reduced to sitting byt he computer waiting for a pm so i can go pick mouse up from jail08:37
luminerdhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35011808:37
wildcowboyokay, going to check something, I will get back to you08:37
luminerdPlease ?08:37
balistic22k08:37
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PurpleMotionlumi08:39
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PurpleMotionthe mouse works when you use the default ubuntu installation, right?08:40
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PurpleMotionluminerd08:40
luminerdPurpleMotion, yea08:41
balistic22hmm..08:41
PurpleMotionthe mouse works when you use the default ubuntu installation, right?08:41
luminerdPurpleMotion, sry08:41
luminerdPurpleMotion, no08:41
luminerdPurpleMotion, no no, can't get it working at all08:41
PurpleMotionah, so it just doesnt work at all08:41
luminerdPurpleMotion, not with Ubuntu...works with no problems on Debian, though on Debian nothing else worked08:41
luminerdPurpleMotion, right08:41
HrdwrBoBargh08:41
zaphoidAhh, found the problem. There is a bug in the Ubuntu shared folders program. It will let the user add an invalid entry by not specifying a name for the samba share. Which in turn confuses the smb server and will not let you load /etc/samba/smb.conf08:42
PurpleMotionim thinking08:42
HrdwrBoBluminerd: full dmesg output?08:42
PurpleMotionim good at thinking08:42
glicki dont like that that populatiry contest that is installed by default08:42
zaphoidWhere do I report that? Never really reported a bug before =P08:42
glickhow do i disable that>?08:42
glicki tried to uninstall it but it depends on the base08:42
HrdwrBoBglick: you can remove the base package - it's simple a meta package08:42
LinuxDoltBLARGH!  blacklisting got rid of one.  but now i can't seem to get rid of the oss driver...08:42
balistic22wildcowboy are you there?08:43
glickHrdwrBoB, it says it will also remove the ubuntu-base08:43
HrdwrBoBglick: yeah08:43
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I still haven't been able to get that08:43
glickHrdwrBoB, wont that uninstall the entire base?08:43
PurpleMotionluminerd:  look in msg08:43
HrdwrBoB It is safe to remove this package if some of the base system packages are not08:44
HrdwrBoB desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep it installed, because it is08:44
HrdwrBoB used to carry out certain upgrade transitions (such as adding new packages to08:44
HrdwrBoB the system).08:44
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LinuxDoltok... that's it.  i'm just going to turn the thing off from bios.  the windows users will just have to suffer08:44
balistic22does anyone know how to do a netboot install for ubuntu08:45
Madpilot!info ubuntu-base08:45
ubotuubuntu-base: (The Ubuntu base system), section base, is optional. Version: 0.43 (hoary), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB08:45
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Doonzhey guys08:46
Madpilotbalistic22: you've seen this? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot08:46
balistic22YEs madpilot08:46
balistic22I just dont knnow how to set up the pxe08:46
balistic22i dunno how the other computer recognizes the netboot08:46
glickcan i delete gnome games without havint to remove the base system?08:46
balistic22is there a floppy i have to make08:46
Doonzubuntu run slow on my box. its an amdxp 3000 with 512 ram on a 7200rpm drive with a gf2 as the vid card. what should i upgrade to improve the performance08:46
Madpilotbalistic22: never done a netboot myself, but I know the page exists.08:46
zaphoidDoonz, thats more than enough hardware to power Ubuntu. You might have a configuration error. What is it "Slow" at?08:47
f_newtonbalistic22, you still trying?08:47
balistic22f_newton yeah08:47
Doonzswitching various programs seems to lag quite a bit08:47
balistic22f_newton im addictied08:47
zaphoidLike, switching from say, Firefox to E-Mail?08:48
glickaddicted to what?08:48
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Doonzyeah08:48
balistic22f_newton help mee pleapseee08:48
Doonzor just even switching tabs in firefox it get sdelayed08:48
balistic22f_newton did you gety our burger lol08:48
f_newtonoh yea08:48
f_newtonit was good too08:48
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airoxHi. Anybody got a link to or knows how to preload a copy of firefox like firefox preloader does for Windows ?08:48
balistic22f_newton sweet08:49
navynhow can  i remove e17 and get e16 instead?08:49
Doonzis there a command i can type in terminal that will show how much system resources im using and mebbe you could look at them and mebbe that would help you out08:49
airoxDoonz: top ?08:49
zaphoidIs this a default ubuntu install? It might be running the standard VGA x driver instead of the NVidia driver. Not sure on that. Sounds to me like it's a problem with your display driver.. That system should be more than enough to power stuff like say, firefox tabs.08:49
zaphoidDoonz, ps -aux |more08:49
f_newtonbalistic22, honestly if I were u I would learn how to use the cli web browser and net install the xserver for sarge08:49
balistic22f_newton im trying to do a netboot but i dont know if im suppose to make a floppy08:50
drcodehi all08:50
f_newtononce you got a gui running you would feel a lot better08:50
xmen90sok so new news .... in network tools i switched from looking at the lo to the eth0 and it says that it is INACTIVE despite the fact that in the network settings i have eth0 activated!08:50
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f_newtonlol08:50
drcodein vncserver how I can do full screen08:50
drcodewhen I type vncserver?08:50
balistic22f_newton im getting stressed out..08:50
f_newtonwell dont08:50
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balistic22f_newton can you just give me instructions on what to do08:50
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f_newtontake a few deep breaths08:51
balistic22*breaths*08:51
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abhayksbreaths-208:51
f_newtonwell since this is the beginning of day four on ubuntu for me I will try...08:51
Madpilotapt-get deep_breath08:51
xmen90swell you could type "vncserver -geometry 1024x768" if you so desired when starting the server08:51
drcodethan x08:51
balistic22god bless you f_newton08:51
drcodeIU will try it08:51
f_newtonapt-get multiple_deepbreaths08:51
xmen90snot a problem08:51
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balistic22lollllllll08:52
f_newtonHe does yes balistic2208:52
balistic22lol08:52
balistic22f_newton so do we go wtih the netboot install?08:52
f_newtonI am working outside a closed wifi cafe in dallas tx balistic22 ... its hotter n hades out here right now08:52
f_newton...08:52
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balistic22lollll wow08:52
f_newtonlet me see what I can find08:53
balistic22f_newton how old are you08:53
xmen90sanyone... :\08:53
f_newtonlets just say Im almost able to collect social security unless bush raises the age limit08:53
balistic22LOL08:53
balistic22you know how old i am08:53
drcodeIf I did login into gnome in remote server08:53
balistic2218 =/08:53
glickf_newton, he prollu will08:53
balistic22and im into linux08:53
drcodecan I do logoff from remote client?08:53
f_newtonyeah rich buttholes always try to keep from paying the poor back what they stole from em08:54
drcodeI can't see the remote server with vncviewer bcz its local08:54
f_newtondifferent subject though08:54
Nameeaterit seems ubuntu has my speakers around the wrong way, and im 99% sure they are plugged in the right way, is there any software way to switch them around?08:54
f_newtonbalistic22, I will go check on something about your problem... hang on08:54
drcodeCan I chose in vncserver to load xfce and not gnome?08:54
balistic22You got it08:54
xmen90swait did you ask if you can log off remotely with vnc?08:55
xmen90sdo you mean from the top bar?08:55
drcodek08:55
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drcodeI did login local when I was at work08:55
drcodebut when I try vncviewer , I Can't get connect08:55
drcodecan I do remote shutdown08:55
drcodefrom console?08:56
f_newtonInstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto08:56
xmen90sreboot -n08:56
glickim so happy i finally got a smoothwall machine08:56
f_newtonbalistic22, see InstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto08:56
drcodereboot -n will do to all linux?08:56
drcodeor onley to xserver?08:56
xmen90soh, i meant in terminal08:56
balistic22f_newton so this external cd rom drive is useless08:56
Madpilotdrcode: do "man reboot" and see08:56
xmen90slike when i vnc server i just open up a terminal and do that08:56
drcodethanx08:56
Nameeaterwhat about shutdown? :|08:57
f_newtonno its not useless but it wont help you boot up an os if its not in the bios boot tree08:57
Madpilotdrcode: or "reboot --help" for a shorter blurb08:57
drcodek08:57
drcodeand can I tell vncserver to load xfce and not gnome?08:57
zaphoidMem:    516500k total, (When I run top)..... I have a gig of ram =/08:57
xmen90sso can anyone help me with my not being able to connect to the internet program again ... ?08:57
f_newtonbalistic22, Did you see the web site addy i POSTED?08:57
balistic22f_newton i have the sarge installed already08:57
balistic22YES I DID08:58
balistic22I DID THAT08:58
balistic22all of it08:58
balistic22i have debian08:58
xmen90sdrcode : in .vnc/startup it has what you need08:58
glickis anyone here from philadelphia?08:58
drcodethanx08:58
balistic22glick this aint a dating chatroom08:58
drcodeI will read about it08:58
f_newtonbalistic22, that is supposedly the net install for ubuntu08:58
drcodethanx for the help08:58
f_newtonnot deb08:58
balistic22no its not08:58
glickbalistic22, damn i was really hoping to find a hot date in this ubuntu linux channel08:58
Madpilotdrcode: np. www.linuxcommands.org is a good resource08:59
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balistic22glick lol09:01
drcodeI Cant find /.vnc/startup09:01
LinuxDoltit didn't work...09:01
balistic22f_newton thats teh debian install09:01
xmen90sthats because its hidden, show all hidden files09:01
ofer0drcode, i think he ment to /home/username/.vnc/startup09:01
f_newtonok i see09:01
xmen90serm, well i figured that was given ...09:01
balistic22f_newton what im thinking is find a floppy that allows me to boot from usb09:01
xmen90ssorry09:01
kestasdoes anyone know if ubuntu will use hardware NX if it's available?09:01
LinuxDolti disabled onboard in the bios, and i STILL have an extra sound device.  how can i disable OSS?09:01
drcodeI cneck there also09:01
f_newtonbalistic you could find a win98 boot floppy and add your dvdr driver to it....09:02
f_newtonbut you are also going to have to have a usb driver and all that is going to be too big for a floppy] 09:02
balistic22f_newton so what do i do09:03
f_newtonmultiple floppies would work but lordy that is an awful lot of trouble09:03
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xmen90s*sigh&09:03
luminerdPurpleMotion, thank you so much!09:03
f_newtonPurpleMotion, ya get em goin eh?09:03
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f_newtonwas it his config?09:03
luminerdf_newton, well, I'm still not sure what it was09:04
PurpleMotionit was black magic09:04
benplautanyone here know anything about e16 in Gnome?09:04
PurpleMotionfear meh voodoo09:04
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f_newtonlol yeah right09:04
balistic22f_newton is a netboot so bad09:04
luminerdhe has me unplug mouse, turn off machine, unplug machine, plug in mouse, plug in machine, boot up machine and it worked OO!!!09:05
benplaut!enlightenment09:05
ubotubenplaut: Are you smoking crack?09:05
f_newtonbalistic22, can you use a cli web browser on your sarge?09:05
benplautno, i'm not09:05
balistic22f_newton how can i find out09:05
f_newtonapt-get install lynx09:05
balistic22on the ocmmand line09:06
glickthats fantastic Suse Pro will be a truely open community distro09:06
glickthats awesome09:06
f_newtonthen once its finished type lynx at the prompt09:06
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f_newtonyes balistic2209:07
balistic22OK09:07
balistic22LEts do this09:07
f_newtonthats all you have is command line remember?09:07
HrdwrBoBluminerd: ... you didn't start the machine with the mouse plugged in?09:07
balistic22yup09:07
balistic22cuz it says xwindows has an error09:07
HrdwrBoBluminerd: PS/2 is a hotplug protocol, but it's not supported by a lot of hardware09:07
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PurpleMotionHrdwrBoB:  yeah, i mapped him to /dev/psaux and rebooted him09:07
balistic22i need a network connection right09:07
f_newtonPurpleMotion, do you know the deb syntax for installing the sarge gui?09:08
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I didn't hotplug.09:08
PurpleMotionsarge gui???09:08
luminerdHrdwrBoB, I know you can't hotplug a ps/209:08
f_newtonxllr6-xorg or something?09:08
luminerdnow I do anyway09:08
luminerdheh09:08
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f_newtonyeah an xserver\09:08
PurpleMotionoh i have no idea09:08
f_newtoni cant remember09:08
f_newtonargh09:08
PurpleMotionadd the sarge repository to your sources.list, update, then apt-get install -testing whatever09:08
PurpleMotion*shrug*09:08
f_newtonPurpleMotion, balistic22 is running cli version of sarge and he wants a gui09:08
PurpleMotionapt-get install x-window-system09:09
swardis there any listing of apt repositories that work well with ubuntu hoary?09:09
PurpleMotioni think09:09
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f_newtonok ... balistic did you read that?09:09
f_newtonare you still here?09:10
balistic22yes09:10
balistic22im here09:10
benplautsward: what ubotu just told you are the safe ones09:10
PurpleMotionlemme know what that does for ya09:10
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balistic22apt-get install x-window-system09:10
PurpleMotionactually09:10
balistic22is that what i should do09:10
balistic22or should i do the browser09:10
PurpleMotionapt-get install x-window<then hit TAB twice and get a lit>09:10
PurpleMotionand tell me what the sane options are09:10
swardbenplaut: thanks =)09:10
f_newtontry this .... in the command line as root now....  type apt-get install x-window-system09:11
benplaut'welcome :)09:11
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Chaotic_Realityhi all.  just installed ubuntu - i'm running it on a laptop and have an external monitor i would like to use along side.  i did a bit of research and found that this can be done using fireglcontrol - an ati driver i think?  is this possible with an ati radeon 9600?09:11
f_newtonbalistic22, do what PurpleMotion said09:11
PurpleMotionyes it is as long as there is a vga port ont he laptop09:11
Chaotic_Realityyeah there is09:11
PurpleMotionthen it will work09:12
balistic22ok give me a sec09:12
Chaotic_Realitywhat do i need to do exactly PurpleMotion?  by default if i plug it in it just mimics the main screen, doesn't 'extend' itself from the main one per se.09:12
f_newtonyou want to display two different signals from ON09:13
f_newton???09:13
PurpleMotionthere are settings in the fireglcontrol09:13
Chaotic_Realityis that something i can grab via apt-get?09:13
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PurpleMotiondo you have the firegl xorg driver installed?09:14
Chaotic_Realityi don't think so. i'm running off the default install of the cd at the moment...just got it set up09:14
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PurpleMotionokay09:14
PurpleMotionthis is an involved process09:14
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PurpleMotionand if you can wait about ten minutes while i get luminerd squared away, I can get you right through it09:14
Chaotic_Realitysure09:14
PurpleMotioncool09:14
Chaotic_Realityi'll wait. thank you09:14
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Deanodriverhi09:15
Deanodriverstill setting up my new hdd09:15
Deanodriverhow do i set it so that non-root users can write to it? :)09:16
Deanodriverin /etc/fstab09:16
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BeatYouany feedback on this design? i know its unrelated to ubuntu - http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm09:16
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Positronis there a possibility to install a wifi card on ubuntu64 ?09:17
desrtdo something less awful with the rollover on the top row of buttons09:17
Positron(which needs ndiswrapper)09:17
BeatYoudesrt explain09:18
desrtwow.  you're being a good boy with CSS09:18
desrtBeatYou; the graphical effect that occurs with the text jumping up is lame09:18
desrtit moves too far09:18
BeatYouahh09:18
balistic22wait was the command09:18
BeatYoui can see that09:18
desrtare you doing css background image offset rollovers?09:18
BeatYouyes sir09:18
desrtl33t :)09:18
BeatYouhttp://dev.clsafety.com/images/main_nav.png09:19
desrtheh.09:19
BeatYoui <3 css09:19
desrtone image too.  interesting09:19
desrti always used separate images09:19
desrtbut one is totally valid09:19
BeatYouindeed09:19
Positronsomeone installed ubuntu64 and ndiswrapper ?09:19
desrtprobably more economical, even09:19
BeatYoudesrt, less file size perhabs, dont have to worry about preloading a bunch of images09:19
desrti'm sure filesize(onebigimage) < filesize(1) + filesize(2) .. + filesize(n09:19
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airoxAnybody got an idea on how to make firefox startup faster ?09:20
desrtBeatYou; well.. the general concept behind the offset method is to auto-preload without using evil hacks09:20
BeatYouyea09:20
airoxLike konqueror :)09:20
desrtBeatYou; so you get preload for free no matter what09:20
BeatYoucss is the future!!!09:20
BeatYouheh09:20
desrt:)09:20
desrtcss is the present09:20
desrtIE is the past09:20
xavhi.. does someone know when xkb will be repaired in breezy ??09:20
desrtxav; daniel does :)09:20
BeatYouwell... considering 95% (estimate heh) of sites now are running with a table layout design... css is not the present09:21
desrtxav; or maybe infinity09:21
BeatYoucause no one knows about it09:21
desrtxav; but i don't recommend asking... just wait :)09:21
xavdesrt: who's daniel ?09:21
MadpilotBeatYou: looks good, but the "Go" button is a bit odd looking, at least in Opera 8.02 in Hoary09:21
desrtone of the guys who hacks X on ubuntu09:21
airoxBeatYou: or people don't use it (yet) because of all the quirks ;)09:21
BeatYouMadeye, yup, Opera doens't know how to render png24 yet :[09:21
xavdesrt: is he french or something ?09:21
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desrtno.  austrilian09:21
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desrt*a09:21
BeatYouairox: there are no quirks on the fault of css itself... its the browsers that have the quirks09:21
MadpilotBeatYou: png24? Opera's support for regular png is pretty good09:22
xavdesrt: okay thanks, still a matter of time :)09:22
desrtxav; why'd you ask if he was french? :)09:22
BeatYouMadeye: yes it is, but not the alpha transparancy of png's09:22
xavdesrt: because i am :)09:22
BeatYouim gong to switch that to a gif soon09:22
MadeyeBeatYou, focus! it's Madpilot who's asking not madeye, however we are both MAD so be careful..!!!09:22
MadpilotBeatYou: I've done transparent pngs that work fine in Opera. see here: www.warbard.ca/blur  - the Blur logo is all png w/ trans.09:23
Madeye:-)09:23
MadpilotMadeye: not the first time that's happened... ;)09:23
desrtxav; ah.09:23
BeatYouinteresting... with alppha transparancy Madpilot09:23
BeatYou?09:23
airoxBeatYou: Yep, so why use CSS now ? :)09:23
xavdesrt: thought maybe i can push him toward repairing xkb :)... but if he's austrian09:24
BeatYouairox: because people have to be trailblazers, trendsetters if you will09:24
MadpilotBeatYou: not really, just the GIMP's basic transparency09:24
airoxBeatYou: ;)09:24
desrtxav; i doubt he'd consider nationality to be an important influencer09:24
Madpilotairox: because CSS is far, far more elegant that table hacks!09:24
BeatYouairox: table layouts are truly junk, they were first made to get around browsers lack of css, now that browsers support css, WHY use tables?09:24
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BeatYoutake a look at my code... compare it to a table layout code... see a file size differnece09:25
Madpilotand the layout parts of CSS are one of the better supported parts, even by IE. Unless you're using "fixed" of course...09:25
xavdesrt: no but i can express myself more elegantly and be more persuasive in french :)09:25
BeatYouESPN switched to a css design and saves over 7TB/year in bandwidth09:25
desrtheh09:25
desrtmaybe he speaks it :)09:25
airoxYeah, CSS rocks. But it sucks that browsers still haven't fixed some issues. :(09:25
xavdesrt: because this is the only thing broken which really annoys me09:25
MadpilotBeatYou: when I swapped my main site over to pure CSS, one page shrank by 30%+09:26
xavdesrt: no shift, no functions keys, no special keys09:26
BeatYouMadpilot I wouldnt doubt that for a second09:26
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Madpilotairox: most of them have, it's just IE that really sucks09:26
xavdesrt: at least the layout is still good09:26
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Madpilot!lart IE609:26
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Madpilot!good bot09:26
ubotu:)09:26
LinuxDoltahhh!  much nicer having blue_planet back on my desktop background again...  i really should go tweak fstab a little more, my ntfs volumes are being mounted rw...09:26
BeatYouairox: dont worry, IE is finally listening to the internet community and supporting w3c stands, IE7 has full css2 and hopefuly css3 support09:26
luminerdwhat's the command to start my dhcp?09:27
BeatYoucss3 will be soooo sweet by the way09:27
airoxBeatYou: IE 7 will not pass the acid test though :(09:27
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BeatYouairox: the IE7 development blog mentioned it before i think09:28
holysmokesluminerd: dhclient3 iface09:28
f_newtonlook guys as long as open source is around bill will grab it slap a ms face on it and call it his09:28
airoxBut well ... if you can make it look the same with 30% of the code...09:28
burnboyydoes anyone know of a functional mp3 player for gnome?09:28
balistic22f_newton ugh this is killing me09:28
LinuxDoltalso... isn't it a bad idea to have /boot permanently mounted?  yet, when i try to unmount it, ubuntu complains that it's in use09:28
airoxburnboyy: xmms ?09:28
Chaotic_Realityburnboyy, xmms is pretty popular09:28
f_newtonyeah you need to take a break kid09:28
Madpilotairox: very few browsers actualy *pass* acid2. the point is mostly to see how gracefully they fail right now...09:28
orac7000burnboyy: xmms + gxmms09:28
burnboyyalright thanks airox, i'll check it out09:28
holysmokesburnboyy: beep-media-player is similar to xmms, but written for gtk209:28
BeatYouairox: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx09:28
orac7000burnboyy: gxmms is a gnome panel applet so you can control xmms09:29
luminerdholysmokes, thanks, but no cigar09:29
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desrtembrace muine09:29
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holysmokesluminerd: you're trying to enable dhcp for a particular network interface, correct?09:29
desrti'd love to go into a page-long rant about why xmms is really just awful09:29
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desrtand how it's 2005 now09:29
desrtand how you should really just use muine09:29
luminerdholysmokes, I am just trying to get online09:29
holysmokesluminerd: this is an ethernet interface?09:30
luminerdthe 10/100 ethernet cable's plugged in09:30
desrtbut i won't :)09:30
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Madpilotdesrt: nice evangalizing!09:30
luminerdholysmokes, yes 10/10009:30
desrtMadpilot; :)09:30
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holysmokesluminerd: is it the only network interface present in the machine?09:30
burnboyyi just started using linux about 3 hours ago09:30
burnboyythis is a nice GUI09:30
luminerdholysmokes, yes, should be09:30
luminerdburnboyy, what gui?09:31
luminerdgnome?09:31
burnboyyya09:31
holysmokesluminerd: try 'dhclient3 eth0'09:31
burnboyyi've never used any linux09:31
burnboyythe ubuntu version is so easy09:31
Madpilotburnboyy: welcome to the Light Side, then! ;)09:31
luminerdburnboyy, once you know more about linux, find out about e17.  it's the most beautiful gui ever...tops mac imho09:31
burnboyyaccept installing software.... doesn't seem there are executables, so what do you do with binaries?09:31
seliniumI am copying a DVD using     dd if=/dev/cdrom1 of=Blue_Planet_Disc_1.iso bs=16M    I have left it running over night, but it has only done 784.0 MB. Any ideas?09:31
Madpilotubotu tell burnboyy about synaptic09:32
luminerdholysmokes, it worked!09:32
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balistic22ubotu09:32
balistic22is that a bot?09:32
holysmokesluminard: sorry, i should have clarified that by 'iface' i meant the network interface in question :)09:32
Madpilot!ubotu09:32
ubotufrom memory, ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".09:32
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balistic22hey ubotu tell me about synaptic package manager09:33
balistic22not that i dont know09:33
holysmokesyou kids have it so easy.. package management09:33
burnboyycool, still is GUI09:33
Madpilotubotu tell balistic22 about list09:33
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balistic22ugh..09:34
Madpilotbalistic22: that'll get you a list of all ubotu's commands09:34
balistic22ohh ok09:34
balistic22ubotu list09:34
ubotulist is, like, at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage09:34
balistic22gangsta09:34
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balistic22ubotu netboot09:34
ubotuwell, netboot is a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot09:34
balistic22haha09:34
balistic22ubuto women09:34
balistic22LOL09:35
balistic22haha09:35
balistic22ok sorry..09:35
Madpilotbalistic22: you can /msg ubotu <foo> for private chat09:35
balistic22awesome09:35
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balistic22ok you know im going to do this motherefing net boot install09:36
balistic22HOW DO I LOAD A NETBOOT FROM THE COMPUTER IM INSTALLING UBUNTU09:37
balistic22do in eed a floppy09:37
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balistic22IS there a god.. out there that can help me.. and let me go to sleep09:37
balistic22because i need to figure this outttt09:37
balistic22ok..09:38
f_newtonbalistic ... let me scroll up09:39
f_newtonI was reading the comics09:39
arubalistic22: did you ask google?09:39
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balistic22f_newton oman i cant sleep till i get ubuntu on htat freaking comp09:39
arubalistic22: try going to www.google.com and type in the phrase ubuntu net install09:39
balistic22aru i have09:39
f_newtonwell you are gonna get mighty tired I tell ya09:40
BeatYou-AFKMadpilot; does this generate that funny looking transparancy? http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm09:40
BeatYou-AFKi changed it to a JPG09:40
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f_newtonbalistic do me a favor will ya?  type uname in the command line and paste the results to rafb.net/paste09:41
MadpilotBeatYou: yeah, the "Go" button on the left still looks odd. the big nav bar works tho09:41
Madpilotdo you want me to post a screenshot?09:41
swardAnyone here familiar with APIC/ACPI?09:41
BeatYouMadeye: that is really pissing me off, its a JPG i dont know why it looks weird09:41
bob2sward: best to just ask your question09:41
balistic22umm f_newton remember its on another laptop nad i odnt have a gui or anything09:41
BeatYouMadeye: that would be aweomse09:41
BeatYouarggghh09:42
f_newtonlol you never got lynx running?09:42
BeatYouMadpilot: a screenshot would be grat09:42
balistic22and the output is linux09:42
balistic22lol09:42
balistic22thats all it said09:42
balistic22linux09:42
balistic22wait how do i donwload lynx again09:42
balistic22tell me ill do it now09:42
MadpilotBeatYou: OK, just a minute09:42
f_newtonapt-get install lynx09:42
Madpilotbalistic22: use "uname -a" to get more stuff09:42
swardMy system clock is running 2x normal speed, on a turion based laptop. Googling showed that a workaround is to use noapictimer, but that makes my cpu freeze during bootup =)09:42
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bob2sward: does booting with "noapic" work? are you sure you passed the command line to the kernel correctly?09:43
swardnoapic will not boot as well09:43
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f_newtonbalistic22, I have about 15 minutes left09:43
swardand yes, I manually tried both of them through grub09:43
swardI already patched my DSDT, so I'm not getting any more ACPI errors09:44
bob2you're sure you passed it correctly?09:44
bob2when does it freeze?09:44
swardwith noapic, it freezes during hotplug09:44
swardwith noapictimer it freezes before it gets to any init scripts09:44
balistic22f_newton its nouse09:44
swardwith the watchdog timer detecting a cpu halt09:44
f_newtonbalistic22, What did it say?09:45
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balistic22unable to fetch archive09:45
f_newtonwhy?09:45
killapophi... how does one open a .bin file -- stoopid noob q09:45
balistic22i dunno i have it connected to the internet09:45
f_newtonah its pointed to the web not the cd09:45
swardI'm also getting a ton of APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)09:45
balistic22but its not like09:45
balistic22doign anything09:45
swardin dmesg09:45
bob2killapop: read the instructions that came with it09:45
balistic22it says looking at debian mirror ... etc..09:46
balistic22and it doesnt move from tehre09:46
balistic22then bash09:46
f_newtonduh yer right balistic22 I forgot you cant read from the cdrom09:46
balistic22oh yeah09:46
glickdoes anyone here run a dedicated smoothwall firewall?09:46
f_newtonok lets get your usb working then09:46
balistic22how do we do that09:46
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killapopbob2: ummmm all i have is a .bin file..... no instructions - im trying to install jre and downloaded it from the sun site09:46
bob2killapop: so, don't do that09:46
bob2killapop: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:46
bob2glick: #smoothwall, presumably09:46
arukillapop: did you try synaptic?09:46
bob2or #ipcop if you don't want to send them money09:47
MadpilotBeatYou: here you go  http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3442/cltest2jh.png09:47
killapopbob2: coolio thanks09:47
killapopbob2: i tried searching apt-cache but no luck09:47
travelleri'm trying to install w32codecs on ubuntu amd64 but it's not in any of the repos09:47
f_newtonwe are going to have to wait til tomorrow I fear... I am going to have to go in 12minutes09:47
killapopbob2: will try synaptic09:47
BeatYouMadpilot: oh god.... i made a huge newbie mistake haha09:47
bob2killapop: yes, read that wiki page09:47
killapopbob2: thanks09:47
bob2java of course isn't in ubuntu09:47
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bob2traveller: yes, that won't work09:48
travellerdoes anyone know where i can get w32codecs?09:48
BeatYouthat is the text "GO" not the image, i forgot to do an image replace on that09:48
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aru!tell traveller about mp309:48
f_newtonhey balistic22 try this... type lynx in the command line  it may alredy be loaded09:48
bob2traveller: they're windows i386 dlls.  how would they run in a amd64-compiled binary?09:48
bob2(hint: they won't)09:48
f_newtonwait09:48
MadpilotBeatYou: I thought that's what it looked like. haven't looked at the code at all!09:48
balistic22f_newton yeah?09:48
f_newtonwe dont have you hooked to the web yet09:48
f_newtonlol09:48
bob2if you really want them, make a i386 chroot, or hope that mplayer works with ia32-libs09:48
BeatYouMadpilot: thanks for the screen though09:48
f_newtonI am losing it tonight09:48
f_newtonlol09:48
Kamping_Kaiserdoes anyone know a good IRC bot i could base a bot on?09:48
MadpilotBeatYou: does that not  display like that on other browsers?09:48
BeatYouKamping_Kaiser eggdrop ?09:48
balistic22f_newton lol yeah lynx dont work09:48
Kamping_KaiserBeatYou: thanks I'll look at it09:49
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travellerbob2: ok, i'm obviously missing something. what do i do to be able to play wmv files?09:49
f_newtonwhat kind of internet connection do you have for the laptop?09:49
BeatYouMadpilot: for some reason the image replacement method im using does not work on buttons in anything but firefox09:49
arubalistic22: between you and me, maybe you should install windows9809:49
bob2traveller: no idea09:49
f_newtonlol09:49
Doonzk i have 512 ram in my system my mobo is dual channel capable what improvement would i get if i got another 512 stick?09:49
balistic22cable_fnewton09:49
bob2traveller: if you care about binary-only junk like windows dlls, tho, you'd want to be running i386 ubuntu09:49
arutraveller: follow that link that ubotu sent you09:49
f_newtonok so you have a nic on the lappy?09:49
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MadpilotBeatYou: yeah, I just checked in FF, it looks OK. aren't browsers fun?09:49
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balistic22yup09:50
BeatYouMadpilot: dunno if "fun" is the correct word09:50
f_newtonis it plugged in?09:50
davrojust setup ubuntu on mini-itx with two nic's, eth0 as red external, eth1 green internal, using firestarter, dhcp, the hosts on the green nic are taking the dhcp, but i have no idea howto setup the host dns.09:50
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balistic22yup09:50
balistic22the router gets the signal09:50
f_newtonok we do have internet then09:50
balistic22yeah09:50
bob2davro: "host dns"?09:50
travelleraru: i've been there, there's nothing about windows format in amd6409:50
floppyearshi09:50
MadpilotBeatYou: I'd get kicked from here if I used a more honest word... ;)09:50
BeatYouheh09:50
balistic22when i take it out09:50
balistic22it says09:50
travellerwell at least i tried w32codecs but it doesn't work09:50
bob2traveller: does mplayer with ffmpeg play them?09:50
balistic22lost link beat09:50
davrodns for the hosts on the green nic.09:50
balistic22then i plug it back in and it says found link beast09:50
floppyearsis there a website similar to debian-administration.org but for ubuntu ?09:50
bob2traveller: i386 windows will not work, sorry09:50
bob2davro: you don't need to do anything special09:51
f_newtonbalistic22, type this ifconfigup eth0   is that right y'all?09:51
arutraveller: I know nothing about this amd64 crap, I use a normal computer09:51
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bob2davro: assuming your dhcp server is configured to point them at your isp's nameservers09:51
travellerbob2: hold on, i'll grab a video and try09:51
bob2aru: er, attitude please09:51
arubob2: stated a fact, judgement please09:51
bob2aru: er, no, sorry09:52
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balistic22bash09:52
balistic22ifconfigup eth009:52
f_newtonbalistic22, ifconfig up eth009:52
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floppyearsanybody ?09:53
balistic22ok we got something09:53
balistic22somethings happening09:53
f_newtonyeah09:53
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f_newtonyer being connected09:54
f_newtonit gives you a dns address right?09:54
balistic22host name failure09:54
liablebob2: could you please kill a couple of onjoin bots in debian? (umit and life)09:54
balistic22wtf..09:54
balistic22problem after problem09:54
f_newtonare you plugged in?09:54
f_newtonmake sure now09:54
balistic22ok hold on09:54
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davrook, i have the dhcp, on the firewall the isp seems to set up the firewall dns but not the host on the green09:54
davrohost=hosts09:54
BeatYouMadpilot: you mind checking this again? I think i have fixed it http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm09:55
balistic22yeahi m plugged in but im not getting much of a signal09:55
sm0ketstjust a question, which are the default native gcc compilers installed in the last release?09:55
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balistic22f_newton is there a way to load the cd rom drive that would save us  the trouble'09:56
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SDrhi09:56
balistic22when i plugged in the cd rom drive it said a bunch of info on it09:56
balistic22so it did notice it installed09:56
YuWeiWhi all, is that support athero wireless chipset?09:56
f_newtonyes you could get the right cdrom n cable for your laptop from ebay so that you could boot from it09:56
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haydendoes iTunes run under wine, and if so to what extent does it run?09:56
SDrI'm looking for a popup/banner/ad killer for firefox, something similiar to admuncher would be nice09:56
balistic22lol f_newton yeah i guess09:57
YuWeiWi mean in ubuntu09:57
f_newtonok then you did get it to recognize it09:57
balistic22do you know where i can find a windows 98 boot disk09:57
f_newtonit told you what dev it was right?09:57
balistic22i have an idea09:57
haydenbalistic22,  bootdisks.com09:57
f_newtonit said /dev/something/something/09:57
f_newton??09:57
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burnboyysweet i got xmms working09:58
balistic22it said DVDR Plexor model blah blah Usbcore09:58
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nekohayoYuWeiW, it should be. I'd like to be sure too however09:58
f_newtonwell we need to find the /dev/device/location so we can eject/open it and put in a cdrom09:59
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swardAnyone know a tool to track down non user space processor usage?09:59
f_newtondev/mnt/sda/cdrom or something09:59
YuWeiWnekohayo, thanks i just got a TP-LINK tl-wn550g wireless pci card. so wanna make sure that09:59
f_newtonI dont know09:59
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travellerbob2: the wmv files play, but the asf does not. i also noticed that when i make it full screen, it doesn't scale the video to fit the screen, instead the video size stays the same09:59
f_newtonI am so lucky that my hardware works so well10:00
f_newton:)10:00
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floppyearshi10:00
floppyearswhat's the latest ubuntu kernel with customizations ?10:00
PurpleMotionbb in 40 mins10:00
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knowledgeversion10:01
knowledgeGLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time10:01
knowledgereference10:01
rover_danhi, your guys. when i run "make install" , there were some warnning  msg like strip: Warning: Output file cannot represent architecture UNKNOWN! the software i built is rarelly used and there is no unique mailing list and no irc. my syetem is Breezy , gcc-4.02. any idea?10:01
knowledgeanyone know what this means?10:01
knowledgerover_dan,10:01
knowledgeare you doing 'make' prior?10:01
rover_danknowledge, of coz i did10:02
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knowledgecool well I'm out of ideas for you10:02
rover_danknowledge, anyway, thanks :)10:03
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luminerdis there any way to figure out, through terminal only, what resolution of X is currently running?10:04
knowledgeanyone know what my error is all about?10:04
balistic22heh heh.. oh right..10:04
balistic22Im outta here guys10:04
rover_dani guesst it's due to the GUN srtip. is it in package of binutils?10:04
Madpilotlater, balistic2210:04
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balistic22TAKE IT EASY KIDS10:05
geneo93compile it with older gcc10:05
balistic22DONT STAY UP TOOLATE10:05
balistic22GOD MY HEAD IS KILLING ME10:05
balistic22Im gonna dream command lines10:05
luminerdbalistic22, I always do anyway10:05
balistic22l10:05
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balistic22loll10:05
rover_dani build the software for my x86 box , no cross-compiling10:05
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shakuhashiwhat is the problem with the turn off of the ubuntu? taking more than 7minutes to hang off after the user select it?10:06
shakuhashiI did test with more than 80 machines in a course of Ubuntu we did..10:07
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muk_amd64hey sup10:07
muk_amd64once you import songs into muine, how do you take them back out?10:08
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glickhey dooes anyone know how to enter the bios of an old compaq presariou10:09
glicki inherited  400mhz p2 with 128 megs ram10:09
chrisqis there no xmodmap in breezy xbase-clients?10:09
chrisqany ideas where it went?10:10
Madpilotmuk_amd64: wish I knew. I've got stuff I've deleted (in Nautilus) still showing up in Muine's listings...10:10
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Madpilotwow, big netsplit. who survived?10:12
Doonzwhen should you add more ram to a system mines always sitting at 510 outta 51210:12
f_newtonwell its past my bedtime folks... see y'all later in the morning10:12
Doonzshould i add another 51210:12
crispynix-v6Doonz: that depends -- how much of it is cached and buffered? linux tries to always use physical ram as much as possible10:13
DoonzMem:    516500k total,   460608k used,    55892k free,    14064k buffers10:13
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DoonzSwap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   213912k cached10:14
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crispynix-v6Doonz: type 'free' and look at cached10:14
Doonz             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached10:14
DoonzMem:        516500     466064      50436          0      14280     21563210:14
Doonz-/+ buffers/cache:     236152     28034810:14
DoonzSwap:            0          0          010:14
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nekohayowow nice respawn10:14
crispynix-v6Doonz: so, ~215MB cached -- that can be freed up for more important stuff when necessary10:15
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Doonzok10:15
Doonzalso quik question10:15
Doonzmy mobo is dual channel capable10:15
nekohayohey do any of you know games that were released in a context similar to enemy territory, besides enemy territory? just curious10:15
Doonzshould i do that?10:15
nekohayo(context: free for linux)10:16
MadpilotDoonz: if you buy a 2nd stick you might as well10:16
Doonzwill i see a huge performance increase>10:16
Doonzor nothing really10:16
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Doonzi mean10:17
Doonza noticible increase or not really10:17
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crispynix-v6you'll probably notice a difference just by adding more RAM10:17
Doonzok10:18
floppyearshi10:18
Doonzand i was thinking of putting in a fx5200 card10:18
floppyearsI have a quick question10:18
floppyearsby looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-source&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all10:18
floppyearsI see that the kernel-source-2.6.11-7 has debian patches10:18
Doonzcause im only using a gf210:18
floppyearsare these the only patches and/or costumization ? or has ubuntu added their own ?10:18
crispynix-v6the FX should improve 2D performance if that's what you're trying to do10:19
paulfoxhas anyone here used google maps api to create a custom map? i want to create one, but don't know where to get the coordinates from10:19
paulfoxsorry, off topic i know10:19
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Xyc0So what is this crap that Mozilla is trying to make money off our Firefox?10:21
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crispynix-v6Xyc0: "our Firefox?"  WTH are you, anyays? :p10:21
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The_VoxXyc0: how many lines of code do you have in FF?10:22
Xyc0none10:22
Xyc0Does that make it less ours?10:22
MadpilotXyc0: huh?10:22
The_VoxXyc0: 99% of the firefox/mozilla coders are paid by the mozilla foundation...it needs to get money to pay them.10:22
floppyearsanybody know if there is a difference between the debian kernels and the ubuntu kernels ?10:22
crispynix-v6yes, since you can't claim copyright on any code in it10:22
Tomcat_No matter what Mozilla does with Firefox, it will still be ours.10:22
Tomcat_Because the code is on a free license, they can't change that.10:23
Xyc0They are obiously trying10:23
Xyc0good point tho Tomcat_10:23
Tomcat_Well they can try changing it for newer releases...10:23
The_VoxXyc0: they are *already* making money...the corporation thing is just to be able to keep making money without incurring in tax problems, because the foundation is a non-proffit10:23
Tomcat_I'm only talking about the current source.10:23
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Tomcat_I think you are right calling it "our firefox" because it's on a free license... but if the Mozilla Foundation stops releasing it... well that's certainly their right. :o10:24
Xyc0They need to start compiling for M$ more efficiently if they plan on selling that10:24
The_VoxXyc0: every time anybody buys a t-shirt or coffee cup or whatever with the FF logo or the mozilla logo, the MozFoundation gets money from the sale.10:24
The_VoxXyc0: they are *not* going to sell the program10:24
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Tomcat_"compiling more efficiently"?10:24
crispynix-v6a corporation owned by a non-profit is kinda weird; usually it's the other way around AFAIK.  Hopefully it stays that way ;o10:25
Xyc0Anyone here use Moox?10:25
The_VoxXyc0: they are going to sell more t-shirts, coffee cups and other crap like that...and support services for enterprises.10:25
The_Voxcrispynix-v6: yes, it's weird...but I also hope it stays the way it is too :)10:25
The_VoxXyc0: and that last one is the reason why they incorporated the corporation, I'm betting.10:25
nekohayoI don't see the problem (yet) of mozilla being a corporation under a mozilla foundation.10:25
The_Voxnekohayo: neither do I10:26
nekohayoI mean10:26
Xyc0The_Vox: the last one what?10:26
nekohayoif they get evil out of nowhere10:26
nekohayowe just take the code and run.10:26
nekohayowhere's the problem? XD10:26
The_Voxnever seen a section in the GPL or MPL that says you can't make money from the code...hell, FSF sells emacs CDs for 150USDlls10:26
nekohayotrue.10:27
The_VoxXyc0: <The_Vox> Xyc0: they are going to sell more t-shirts, coffee cups and other crap like that...and support services for enterprises. <---- that last one...support services10:27
Xyc0That is good to hear if it is true10:27
nekohayoyeah, like how to get rid of the big blue E on your desktop I guess10:27
The_Voxand I think GCC costs over 300USDlls10:27
nekohayomwahaha10:27
crispynix-v6GPL doesn't mean that everyone gets the code, only people who acquire binaries (whether they were paid for or not)10:27
The_Voxlol, nekohayo10:27
nekohayoXyc0, how the he... do you want them to turn evil?10:27
Xyc0I got the impression they were gonna charge for a PROFESSIONAL edition or something10:27
Xyc0Worst idea ever from Suse10:28
nekohayohmm... then people would make a fork quite fast I believe10:28
The_VoxXyc0: I haven't seen any mention of anything like that.10:28
nekohayoXyc0, guess what, suse is GOING OPEN10:28
nekohayo:P10:28
Xyc0going open?10:28
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crispynix-v6as in Fedora open10:28
The_Voxnekohayo: probably...problem is...there's only 3 or 4 people that aren't being paid by the moz foundation to work on firefox, out of the whole team.10:28
travellerthere's a small beep sound from my speakers when i press a key, is there a way i can get rid of that?10:28
nekohayoyeah... osnews.com and slashdot.org related to opensuse.org10:29
nekohayotoday or yesterday in the news10:29
Xyc0thats cool, didn't know that10:29
Xyc0Im still sticking with Ubuntu10:29
nekohayoI don't _dislike_ suse.. just like ubuntu better :P10:29
Xyc0nothing like rpm hell to ruin your distro10:29
nekohayosuse was my distro of choice before10:29
The_Voxnekohayo: there has never been much involvment by non-foundation coders in either mozilla nor firefox10:29
The_VoxXyc0: rpm hell is a myth.10:29
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nekohayo... hmm what's the difference between RPM hell and DEB hell, please?10:29
DaZjorzhelloooo10:29
Xyc0Alot of debuging10:29
DaZjorzme = back :D10:29
The_VoxXyc0: at least in modern distros10:30
DaZjorzfrom vacation ^^10:30
nekohayoseems exactly the same to me.10:30
Xyc0RPM hell is a bit more... herm... frequent then DEB10:30
The_VoxDaZjorz: jump from a roof, you are making me envious :P10:30
DaZjorzlol10:30
The_VoxXyc0: again, not true, at least not in a modern distro.10:30
Tomcat_I never had deb hell... but often rpm hell.10:30
nekohayodon't know... you know, I installed suse personal before ubuntu10:30
The_VoxTomcat_: stop sticking rpms into your distro by hand.10:30
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nekohayoand what I realized was10:30
Tomcat_But that was probably because I hate SuSE. :)10:30
nekohayo1- it was better. only one CD instead of 5... 2- you could get everything through repositories.10:31
Tomcat_The_Vox: Well what can you do if you need backports? At least deb backports work. :)10:31
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Xyc0The_Vox: I am working from FC310:31
The_VoxI don't like suse much...but I do support a couple of hundred rpm-based boxes (mandriva servers and desktops), and I've never gotten myself into rpmhell10:31
The_VoxTomcat_: not always...remember FF 2 weeks ago.10:31
Xyc0The_Vox: The major problem was lack of a decent YUM interface10:31
Tomcat_I don't say rpm is inferior, I'm just saying I had more problems with it than with deb... but that could be for a hell of a lot of reasons.10:32
nekohayoThe_Vox, same here, to me rpm and deb are exactly the same, as a end user10:32
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nekohayoan*10:32
The_VoxXyc0: I don't use suse...but urpmi is as good as the apt system any day of the week...and has a few things that the debian-based distros need to implement.10:32
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Xyc0Raise your hand if you have gotten WINE working on a RPM box.10:32
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LinuxDoltyou wanna know the distro with the WORST package management?  i love the distro to death, but gentoo's portage is hell on wheels10:32
nekohayoYOU worked too.10:32
The_VoxDaZjorz: I use it...good way to play Diablo :)10:32
nekohayo(Yast Online Udater)10:33
nekohayoLinuxDolt, why?10:33
DaZjorzThe_Vox: Can I install Windows XP on VMWARE For Linux?10:33
The_VoxXyc0: I used to play NWN is my desktop on mandriva10:33
nekohayoI mean, you do emerge firefox and that's it no?10:33
DaZjorz(i know I can)10:33
nightswimDaZjorz: yes10:33
The_VoxDaZjorz: yes, you can10:33
LinuxDoltnekohayo:  why what?  why do i say that portage is so horrible?  because it is.10:33
DaZjorzThe_Vox: But on VMWare for Windows, I can't do fullscreen things n my vmware.10:33
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The_VoxXyc0: using winex, that is. I never tried the free wine...it's crippled for the only thing I want it, that is, games.10:34
DaZjorzTheVox: Do I have that problem in VMWare for Linux too?10:34
Amaranthsmeg 0.8 has reached feature parity with gmenu-simple-editor10:34
nekohayoLinuxDolt, I mean, you do emerge firefox and that's it no? doesn't it work almost the same as every other solution out there?10:34
Amaranthit can flip things on and off ;)10:34
rikihi10:34
airoxDaZjorz: afaik, you can use fullscreen on both.10:34
The_VoxDaZjorz: I've never used vmware on windows...last time I used windows directly on HW was win95...waaaay before vmware existed :)10:34
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airoxDaZjorz: I got VMware fullscreen on both...10:34
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LinuxDoltnekohayo:  no, you do emerge firefox, get told that that mozilla is blocking it, so you unemerge mozilla, get told gnome depends on it10:34
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DaZjorzairox: I can get VMWare to show me the virtual PC in fullscreen10:35
The_VoxDaZjorz: I can fullscreen my WXP virtual machine to play diablo on linux no problem10:35
nekohayolol!10:35
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nekohayoactually I remember apache and PHP are pretty dangerous to upgrade10:35
DaZjorzairox: But when I start a fullscreen thing n the virtual pc, it fails in vmware.10:35
airoxhmm strange DaZjorz10:35
rikihow do i know the gcc version was used to compile the kernel i'm using?10:35
AmaranthThe_Vox, DaZjorz, airox: So nice to see VMWare has so many customers!10:35
DaZjorzmaybe it is because of the version10:35
Xyc0The_Vox: It took me a minute to set up Wine on DEB systems.  Red Hat has always been hesitent to support any knind of windows emulation or adaptation on linux.10:35
airoxAmaranth: yep.10:36
AmaranthMust suck paying that much just to run diablo though.10:36
DaZjorzAmaranth: Guess so.10:36
Xyc0Cedega is worth every penny10:36
airoxThe_Vox: Can't cedega run diablo ? (just a qeustion010:36
DaZjorzairox: Private? Want to ask you something about vmware.10:36
The_VoxAmaranth: I use it to do networking demonstrations for clients using linux virtual machines...and to play Diablo on my linux box :)10:36
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LinuxDoltnekohayo:  and then, once you FINALLY get all the blocks and dependancies figured out, you find out that the ebuild needs tweaking10:36
DaZjorzairox: Wrong channel here.10:36
Amaranthday by day cedega begins more and more worthless10:36
nekohayohey people, I guess this is asked often.. but what does "feature freeze" mean in terms of reliability (not "it means no more new package submissions") ? does it mean that breezy should stop playing rodeo around august 11th and up?10:36
nekohayoLinuxDolt, and that there are conflicts in configuration files? XD10:37
The_Voxairox: you have to dump your X colordepth to 256 colors for it to work...and nothing is worth doing that :)10:37
airoxhehe10:37
The_Voxairox: D2 does work, tho, or so I'm told...I don't play D210:37
airoxah10:37
Amaranthnekohayo: It means (aside from X and GNOME) that work should turn to fixing bugs, not uploading new versions of things and new working on new features.10:37
LinuxDoltnekohayo:  yep, once it finally finishes building you find out you have 20 different config files in /etc that need to be manually merged or discarded10:37
Amarantherr, and working on10:37
The_VoxXyc0: I haven't used RH in years, and never used FC...but in mandriva/mandrake it's just a matter of "urpmi wine" and that's that.10:38
nekohayoso, theorically, the X thing should become um... quieter ?10:38
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Amaranthnope, read what i said10:38
nekohayo(please don't hit me XD)10:38
stifflercan i watch vcd on my ubuntu system? im running it on a mac using linux10:38
AmaranthX isn't freezing with the rest of the system10:38
LinuxDolti love the features and the theory of gentoo to death.  but the implementation has a lot of crazy quircks10:39
Amaranthbecause if it froze at 7.0 RC0 we'd be screwed10:39
Bateauhey! i need help changing my screenressolution. its stuck on 640x480 :( any one know what to do?10:39
The_VoxAmaranth: why do you think cedega is more worthless every day? I mean...for gamers who want to play modern games, it's the only choice...I haven't been able to get any games newer than 2002 working under vmware10:39
rikihow do i know the gcc version was used to compile the kernel i'm using?, somebody can help please?10:39
AmaranthThe_Vox: WINE proper's DirectX support gets better every day.10:39
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nekohayowhy? from what I understand in your last sentence, you're telling me that even when gold breezy is out it will still get updates?10:39
nekohayo(Xorg)10:39
Amaranthnekohayo: no10:40
The_VoxAmaranth: DX support isn't the only thing that's needed for gaming...you need the support for the proprietary copy-protection crap that most games have.10:40
nekohayosorry, misunderstood10:40
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Amaranthnekohayo: but until 7.0 releases X is going to be rough10:40
stifflercan i watch vcd on my ubuntu system? im running it on a mac using linux10:40
stifflercan i watch vcd on my ubuntu system? im running it on a mac using linux10:40
LinuxDoltof course, ubuntu has it's share of crazy quirks too10:40
AmaranthThe_Vox: There are other ways around that. :)10:40
nekohayooh OK I just figured out RC0 = release candidate 010:40
Amaranthstiffler: Please don't repeat yourself.10:40
The_VoxAmaranth: not if you want to be able to play multiplayer games...nocd cracks and similar taint the game so you can't play on most official game servers.10:41
Xyc0stiffler: meaning you are running Live Ubuntu?10:41
Bateauis there no one who can help me? there has to be a config i can run in a terminal or something :/10:41
Chaotic_Realityis there a way to restore an xconfig to the default config that ubuntu sets up after install? i messed it up and want it to revert to how it was when it was working if possible.10:41
AmaranthThe_Vox: Removing the protections and making an ISO you can mount should do the trick though.10:41
Xyc0The_Vox: Virtual Disk Images10:41
The_VoxBateau: base-config10:41
LinuxDoltor, at least, they feel like quirks to me, but i only have experience with meta-distributions like gentoo, so what i think are quirks may just be standard crap to go through with binary distros10:42
AmaranthChaotic_Reality: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:42
benplautgoodnight everyone10:42
Chaotic_Realitythanks Amaranth10:42
The_VoxAmaranth: have tried that...at least blizzard's servers detect that kind of stuff and won't let you play10:42
benplaut!goodnight10:42
ubotuI don't know, benplaut10:42
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benplautshut up10:42
DaZjorz!goodnight10:42
DaZjorz?10:42
benplauthehe10:42
AmaranthThe_Vox: There is no way they can detect it if done properly.10:42
The_VoxXyc0: never managed to make it work with Diablo doing that.10:42
Bateautahnx The_Vox  :D i`ll try it10:42
benplautsaying goodnight to the bot :P10:43
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AmaranthThe_Vox: And legal ways of making those things work in WINE are being figured out.10:43
benplaut!lart ubotu10:43
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The_VoxAmaranth: well...I've never found a crack that did it properly....and I'm not a coder, so I depend on others :)10:43
Amaranthhaha, your processes just got switched to the lowest priority10:43
AmaranthThe_Vox: Who said anything about a crack?10:43
The_VoxAmaranth: the day it can be done in wine legally, I'll drop cedega...till then, I like my warcraft3, my NWN and all my other games :)10:44
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The_VoxAmaranth: if you are breaking the copy protection, it's a crack...unless it's done legally10:45
Xyc0The_Vox: Guild Wars works flawless10:45
Xyc0The_Vox: That is my Diablo 2 replacement10:45
DaZjorzThe_Vox: Private?10:46
AmaranthI just need Continuum to work on Cedega or WINE and I can stop dual-booting.10:46
The_VoxDaZjorz: sure10:46
BateauThe_Vox, ok, i started what you said... now what?  tasks?10:46
athlonhas anyone tried installing / reinstalling apache2 lately ? the post-installation script wont work because of a dependancy problem10:46
The_VoxXyc0: I got D2 for free....was a betatester back in the day10:47
athlonmy apache config files just got hosed :-(10:47
airox:-(10:47
Xyc0The_Vox: Cool, I was a beta tester for Guild Wars, but so were alot of people.10:47
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ubotu[lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP10:47
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DaZjorz!lampp10:48
ubotuWish i knew, DaZjorz10:48
Madpilotathlon: see ubotu's post? ^^^10:48
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DaZjorz!xampp10:48
ubotuDaZjorz: Are you smoking crack?10:48
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DaZjorzdammit nooo +o(10:48
athlonMadpilot, yah10:48
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MadpilotDaZjorz: only one "p" on lamp ;)10:48
DaZjorzwhy does it the bot know about lamp and not about LAMPP, XAMPP etc10:48
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DaZjorz!xamp10:48
ubotuDaZjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?10:48
LinuxDolti knew it lasted too long...10:48
DaZjorzthere is lampp and xampp too10:48
MadpilotDaZjorz: because nobody's told ubotu about those yet10:49
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Madpilotubotu tell DaZjorz about list10:49
DaZjorzMadpilot: Thought that10:49
ilba7rany one had this problem with aptitude? using the gui for aptitude i got 16 broken packages and when i checked why it said some dependencies are broken while checking for the broken dependencies i found them all installed!!!!wierd10:49
DaZjorz-.-' does he know anything about list ;-D10:49
BateauThe_Vox, help me please :/ can i talk to you in msg?10:50
The_VoxXyc0: I used to play D1 with the VP of blizzard north....he got me and a few other friends in the internal beta testing...there's even some characters and items in D2 named after a few of us :)10:50
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DaZjorzbrb10:50
ondrejmako: ping?10:50
MadpilotDaZjorz: the format for educating ubotu is "ubotu <foo> is <bar>" - a link into the Ubuntu wiki is a good thing to include10:50
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Despeehilba have you tried to fix broken packages?10:50
The_VoxBateau: I've not messed with base-config in a long time...and I'm not about to mess with it when I have a working box at the moment :) Explore in there and find the X configuration section10:50
Bateau:x10:51
athlonMadpilot, still doesnt work, same error message10:51
Xyc0The_Vox: Diablo 2 has wasted many hours of my life.  I have a uber assasin I log on to keep from being deleted10:51
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DespeehXyc0 did you have level 99 characters?10:51
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The_VoxXyc0: I never really got into D2....D1, on the other hand, is still my main vice10:51
DespeehI played about 5 years D1 :)10:52
Xyc0The_Vox: I grew up in the "Gotta be Multiplayer" era of PC games.10:52
athlonAnyone interested in helping me reinstalling apache2 could check #flood10:52
Bateauis ther no one else that knows?10:52
The_VoxDespeeh: I'm still playing it...and I bought it 2 weeks after it was released :)10:52
Xyc0Despeeh: Yea I have a few lvl 9910:52
Madpilotathlon: hmmm, sorry, apache hasn't thrown any error msgs at me yet!10:52
DespeehThe_Vox you mean you still play D1?10:53
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The_VoxXyc0: D1 is multiplayer...4 players per game10:53
Despeehya i know10:53
The_VoxDespeeh: yup.10:53
Despeehi have there also level 50 rogue in europe10:53
Xyc0The_Vox: But it was too easy to edit your character offline.10:53
Despeehwas 50 in year 1999 :)   just searching my third obs/zod, but never find10:53
Despeehi know , scanners cant tell nothing nowadays10:54
The_VoxXyc0: I played legit characters at all times...and have a few pure characters too...I used to play only with people in Tony's Honorable Players List from A.G.D.10:54
Despeeheveryone has got all drg/zods : obs/zods and all warriors strange/hastes with max stats and everything10:54
Despeehi have pure 4610:54
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Despeehi am one of dragons there10:55
Despeehif ya know duke and guys10:55
Amaranthdon't hide or anything, i didn't do that for a reason :P10:55
athlonMadpilot, hmm... wonder if its because of php 5. Do you use php and if yes, which version do you use10:55
The_VoxXyc0: my proudest accomplishment was a multi-dotted lvl 38 BNM10:55
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Madpilotathlon: php4 here, from Ubuntu's repos10:55
The_VoxXyc0: and a lvl 24 ironman10:55
Xyc0That made no sence to me10:55
Xyc0sense*10:55
nekohayoyou guys ARE aware that you're chatting over uberlevels diablo 1 characters in an ubuntu channel? XD10:56
Despeehlvl 24 ironman is pretty good in D110:56
athlonMadpilot,  okay thanks...10:56
Despeehok lets quit talking about diablo :)10:56
Madpilot#ubuntu-offtopic - which isn't this channel...10:56
The_VoxXyc0: BNM = Beyond Naked Mage...rules for BNM say that you have to use the worse equipment available at all times, and can't wear anything that's helpful...nothing but cursed items10:56
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Bateauhey! i need help changing my screenressolution. its stuck on 640x480 :( any one know what to do?10:57
The_Voxnekohayo: yes...but it's almost 4am, gotta talk about something or go to bed...and I'm not sleepy yet lol!10:57
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nekohayohmmm... then get wobbly windows? XD10:57
Madpilotoff to sleep, everyone. this getting up to work thing isn't any fun... :P10:57
The_Voxnekohayo: bah :P10:57
The_Voxok, I guess I'll go play a couple of dlvls in diablo and then to sleep...arioshi ba all :)10:58
Xyc0Bateau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28Resolution%2910:58
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dade`  gnome-phone-manager: Depends: libgsmme1c102 (>= 1.10-5) but it is not installable10:59
dade`right ?10:59
dade`                       Depends: libsigc++-1.2-5c102 but it is not installable10:59
dade`E: Broken packages10:59
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Bateauthanx Xyc0 :)10:59
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stjepanheya10:59
Xyc0Bateau: Let us know if that doesn't help10:59
stjepanwhen I try to do sudo aptitude remove emacs-chess10:59
stjepanthen there occurs error11:00
MartenHhey. is there a tool out there to detect movement in a webcam?11:00
airoxYes.11:00
stjepanit says: you must do dpkg --configure -a to correct problem11:00
Xyc0Like for security?11:00
airoxThere is a very comprehensive suite for security and movement detection.11:01
stjepanE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.11:01
Bateauoki Xyc0  :) bbl11:01
stjepan:(11:01
stjepanand now I do dpkg --configure -a11:01
Xyc0Good old strong bad11:01
nekohayoXyc0, parles FR?11:02
stjepanand it do long time this:11:02
stjepanSetting up emacs-chess (2.0b4-2) ...11:02
stjepaninstall/emacs-chess: Handling install for emacsen flavor emacs21, logging to /tmp/elc_EGTuQ3.log11:02
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stjepan:(11:02
RedLine_My gnome is freezing after I login. This happend when i have changed my CD-RW. I have tryed to switch them back, to install new kernel, xorg, gnome but nothing worked for me. What can i do to fix my system?11:02
stjepan:(11:02
stjepancan u help me?11:02
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batma8alright, i got my driver installed for my wireless lan, and the computer recognizes it, and it only says driver present, but doesnt say hardware present11:04
batma8how to i turn on the card11:04
RedLine_can someone help me?11:04
nekohayoRedLine_, is this on a desktop or a laptop?11:05
RedLine_desktop11:05
stjepanwhat do you think about Kubuntu?11:05
nekohayook, just out of curiosity11:05
airoxstjepan: Great stuff.11:05
RedLine_:)11:05
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stjepanairox: really?????11:06
Viking76I tried installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu - which worked fine - so I *should* have a "kubuntu-like" system now. However, the default fonts are absolutely HUGE. Is there a package to install to get the "real" Kubuntu look, cause I sure hope this isn't it..11:06
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DaZjorzstjepan: I ran a live CD on my pc and it looked great11:06
Xyc0batma8: Did you install the correct inf file?11:06
LinuxDoltwhere does Synaptic put beep-media-player plugins?11:06
LinuxDoltand skins11:07
batma8i did11:07
batma8i tried a few, and finally found one that didnt come up as invalid11:07
batma8i got it from a guy who has the same laptop even11:07
airoxViking76: Just alter the fonts in the configuration center.11:07
airoxViking76: And maybe(!) you want msttcorefonts11:07
stjepanbut I installed Kubuntu and KDE looks very very bare11:07
airoxstjepan: You can make it perfect.11:08
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airoxAdd for example KDE Bluetooth Framework.11:08
airox:)11:08
airoxGreat fun.11:08
airox;)11:08
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batma8root@ubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -l11:08
batma8Installed ndis drivers:11:08
batma8bcmwl5  driver present11:08
batma8root@ubuntu:~#11:08
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batma8i remember there was a line of code that turns on the card11:09
DaZjorzbatma8: http://pastebin.ubuntu.nl11:09
Xyc0yea dont post in channel11:09
Xyc0paste*11:09
airoxdamn it takes long to compile all the modules for ubuntu :/11:09
batma8sorry guys11:09
airoxIs there a way to just compile 1 module ?11:09
airoxI only need orinoco and hermes modules :-)11:09
Xyc0batma8: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List11:10
Viking76Hmmz.. Many of the fonts available in gnome - such as the default "Sans" font don't show up in KDE. Anybody know why? :)11:10
Viking76(and yes - I've installed kubuntu-desktop)11:10
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batma8thanks bro11:11
batma8you guys always rock11:11
Xyc0batma8: find your card in that list, see what drivers you need11:11
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stjepanI use ndiswrapper11:11
stjepanand I made script for that11:11
Xyc0batma8: is that what you needed?11:12
stjepanand always I just run script and it configures ndiswrapper and all stuff11:12
batma8not sure yet :) ill let ya know in a sec11:12
stjepanand wlan works!11:12
Xyc0It sucks, my card slows down boot up if I am not in my network11:12
batma8yah, mine had that same problem11:13
batma8tooooook forever to boot11:13
Chaotic_Realityanyone got the ati control panel set up properly?11:13
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Xyc0ati has a control panel now?11:14
Xyc0The drivers dont suck anyomore?11:14
DaZjorzermm guys11:14
DaZjorzwhat was the url of the pastebin again11:15
Xyc0!paste11:15
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:15
nekohayohuh? since when11:15
DaZjorzah yes11:15
DaZjorzwhy does ubuntulinux have a dutch domain name ?11:15
Xyc0Ubuntu is in europe?11:15
BurgundaviaDaZjorz, that is the ubuntu dutch loco team11:15
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BurgundaviaXyc0, ubuntu is everywhere11:16
Xyc0symantics11:16
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renedoxeven in the toilet :P11:16
Xyc0hey, my laptop is prortable11:16
DaZjorzAAAH11:16
DaZjorzrenedox: But ... Butt11:16
DaZjorzhow11:16
haydenXyc0, most laptops are11:16
DaZjorzmy toilet doesn't have an IP11:16
DaZjorzhow can i remote control it then !!11:16
Viking76Technically, the organisation supporting Ubuntu is in South Africa (Canonical) :)11:16
Xyc0hayden: you missed the point11:16
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DaZjorzLOLLLLLLLLL11:17
DaZjorzLOOOOOOL11:17
haydennot really11:17
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DaZjorz"Hey, my laptop is portable"11:17
Xyc0Viking76: neg, Isle of Man11:17
cafuegois it weekend yet?11:17
DaZjorz"Erm.. Most laptops are"11:17
Xyc0Viking76: It is an actual country11:17
DaZjorzthat would be one for www.bash.org11:17
Viking76Oh well then. But Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa. ;)11:17
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RedLinestill not working11:17
MartenHI'm installing some motion detection software and it tells me to use mpeg_encode if I want the jpegs converted to mpeg. But I can't find a package like that...?11:18
cafuego!find mpeg_encode11:18
DaZjorz*silence*11:18
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'mpeg_encode' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/mpeg_encode) in multiverse/graphics/ucbmpeg.11:18
Xyc0my laptop IS portable... so I can take it to the toilet, bathtub, you name it11:18
DaZjorzaah11:18
Xyc0ubuntu is everywhere11:18
DaZjorzlol11:18
DaZjorzXyc, most laptops are!11:18
cafuegoTook it a moment to refresh all Packages files11:18
Xyc0damn kids and their drugs11:19
DaZjorzyou can take most laptops to the toilet11:19
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cafuegoMartenH: See?11:19
zAo^but most wifi cards donnot work there :(11:19
Xyc0again, you missed the point11:19
MartenHcafuego, yes, strange it didn't turn up in synaptic...11:19
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cafuegoMartenH: Do you have the multiverse repository enabled?11:19
DaZjorz  Does anybody here knows about the program Swish (Easy flash)11:20
haydenwhats the point then Xyc0 ?11:20
airoxDaZjorz: Yes.11:20
DaZjorzairox: Does it have a Linux version too?11:20
DaZjorzor can I run it using Wine?11:20
MartenHcafuego, I think so but I11:20
Xyc0that 3 out of 4 people prefer Cherrios11:20
MartenHbut I'm not sure.. how can I check?11:20
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haydenn00b11:21
airoxDaZjorz: Don't know. Try VMware ;D11:21
cafuegoMartenH: See if 'ucbmpeg' installs.11:21
DaZjorzairox: I'll try.11:21
Xyc0hayden: watch the language11:21
batma8hey guys11:21
cafuegoMartenH: Also, synaptic searches package names and dexcriptions, not actual contents.11:21
batma8i think we got it11:21
batma8!!!11:21
ubotuit has been said that ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me11:21
Xyc0batma8: sweet11:21
cafuegoMartenH: .. therea subotu looks for files IN packages11:21
DaZjorz   I'm going to install Ubuntu on this pc. Are there any tips that I could use? Thanks!11:21
haydenn00b11:21
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MartenHcafuego, I can find that in the list in synaptic so I assume it will isntall11:21
cafuegoMartenH: Yep, should be fine.11:22
batma8ok..driver and hardware present, now how do i get it in my list of network options11:22
batma8heheeh11:22
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cafuegos/therea subotu/whereas ubotu/11:22
haydenDaZjorz, what are the specs of the pc?11:22
MartenHcafuego, Ic, so it's ucbmpeg I should isntall and not mpeg_encode?11:22
Xyc0batma8: System > Admin > Network11:22
Xyc0batma8: I think11:22
cafuegoMartenH: yep, ucbmpeg contains the mpeg_encode program.11:23
MartenHcafuego, ok, got it11:23
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Xyc0batma8: im not on ubuntu right now11:23
MartenHcafuego, thanks =)11:23
cafuegono worries11:23
batma8hmm..isnt in the list11:23
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DaZjorzhayden: pentium 4, 512 mb, geforce 4 128 mb, need any more?11:23
Xyc0batma8: look for your wlan0, and configure preferences11:23
cafuegoDaZjorz: A hard disk would be handy11:23
Xyc0oh herm11:23
DaZjorzlol11:23
BateauXyc0, could you give me that link again? :)11:23
batma8i dont see wlan0 in the list11:24
DaZjorzooops11:24
Xyc0batma8: all you did was install the driver11:24
cafuegoDaZjorz: Apart from that, Ubuntu should run fine.11:24
Xyc0?11:24
batma8but in my terminal it said it was present11:24
haydenDaZjorz, lol yea11:24
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DaZjorzforgot that, 160- gb harddisk xP11:24
Xyc0Bateau: for what? sorry its late11:24
haydenDaZjorz, ati drivers r a bitch to get running11:24
Xyc0batma8: oh you have to load your driver now11:24
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cafuegoDaZjorz: You going to dual-boot?11:24
batma8i thought i did11:24
haydenDaZjorz, but seeing as u dont have one, shoudl b alright11:24
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BateauXyc0: hehe, ok. for that help-thing on screenressolution changing11:25
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Xyc0batma8: you installed the driver11:25
DaZjorzcafuego: I'm planning to install VMWare.11:25
cafuegoDaZjorz: So you're going to wipe windows?11:25
DaZjorzHayden: *Is happy* Am I glad that I don't have ATI ;-D11:25
batma8ok i got it xyco11:25
DaZjorzcafuego: Yes.11:25
batma8thank you11:25
cafuegoDaZjorz: No probs then11:26
Xyc0Bateau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:26
Bateauah, thanks Xyc0  :D11:26
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DaZjorz Anything I need to save before I remove Windows ? (except for saved games)11:26
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Xyc0batma8: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper11:26
cafuegoDaZjorz: Whatever you want to keep. Bookmarks? Email?11:26
Xyc0batma8: sudo ndiswrapper -m <--this will load modual at start up11:26
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DaZjorzcafuego: All stored on e-mail server ;)11:27
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DaZjorzSomeone knows a fast, good IRC program for Ubuntu that I can install through apt-get fast ?11:28
Xyc0Anyone find a decent wirless radio app that works with ndiswrapper?11:28
travellerdoes anyone know how i can change the background colour of the splash screen11:28
cafuegoDaZjorz: irssi-text11:28
DaZjorzcafuego: Console or KDE11:28
Xyc0traveller: System > Admin > Login11:28
DaZjorzit sounds like console program11:29
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zAo^I dont have sound in rhythmbox, but in Gnome and BMP I do, what can be wrong?11:29
travellerXyc0: doesn't seem like i can change any colours there11:29
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Xyc0traveller: go to the stardard greeter tab and chage bgcolor11:30
elw0odzAo^ gstreamer plugin. esd volum...11:30
DaZjorz Anyone has a good KDE IRC program for Linux ?11:30
zAo^elw0od, installed ervery gstreamer plugin :)11:30
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Xyc0DaZjorz: gaim11:30
ablyssKonversation is good kde irc11:30
DaZjorzXyc0: apt-get install gaim ?11:30
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travellerXyc0: ah...thanks, let me give it a go11:30
Xyc0DaZjorz: it is installed with ubuntu11:30
DaZjorzxyc: Thanks11:31
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Xyc0DaZjorz: you might want to install IRC Helper Plugin11:31
cafuegoDaZjorz: there are no good GUI irc clients. Not for Linux, not for anything.11:31
DaZjorz ?11:31
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Xyc0DaZjorz: you have to compile that tho11:31
Xyc0cafuego: anything but gaim11:31
Xyc0Gaim ROX11:31
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DaZjorzXyc: I'll get back on that after installing Ubuntu :)11:31
DaZjorzSeeya.11:31
Xyc0bye11:31
cafuegoXyc0: I don't see how "no" can be ambiguous.11:31
Xyc0cafuego: it was aplay on words11:32
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=== Xyc0 seconds that
=== cafuego can't stand having to move his hands to a mouse to do stuff on irc
Xyc0wow, he really had to let us know11:33
cafuegomight as well be the bloody web!11:33
Xyc0DaZorz is installe Ubuntu EVERYONE11:33
Xyc0cafuego: what program does that?11:33
cafuegoXyc0: links11:34
Xyc0cafuego: that sucks, wont let you do irc commands?11:34
icewtirssi is great11:34
cafuegoXyc0: I use irssi, none of that gui crap.11:34
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Xyc0Gaim has gui, but that is only for switching from channel to channel11:34
cafuegoalso means I can leave it running in 'screen' unattended11:34
cafuegoXyc0: ^n is far faster than moving the mouse and clicking11:35
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pettiirssi is quite close to heaven11:35
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cafuegoif I want a WINDOW I'll open an rxvt :-)11:35
haydenwhat window manager do u use cafuego ?11:36
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cafuegohayden: basic Gnome at the moment.11:36
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haydenok11:36
cafuegowith one or wto rxvt's ruinning 'screen', with each in between 1 and 20 shells.11:37
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Razor-X`wow, even this place is relatively dull at this time of night...11:37
cafuegoRazor-X`: liar11:37
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Razor-X`cafuego: well, I joined for like.. a second11:38
Caynelol11:38
Xyc0Razor-XYou missed it then11:38
Razor-X`on the way to San Diego, we stopped at like... one place11:38
cafuegoRazor-X`: We were doing tequila earlier on11:38
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Xyc0Your in SD cool so am I11:38
Razor-X`there were two WAPs, but one was busted11:38
cafuegoRazor-X`: You checked IRC during a road trip?11:38
cafuegoRazor-X`: Sheesh.11:38
cafuegoand you thing WE are being boring? ;-)11:39
Caynekde vs gnome....which is best?11:39
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cafuegoCayne: yes11:39
Xyc0Cayne: Linux is11:39
pettiI was sailing yesterday and.. yup. IRC :)11:39
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pettitoday's phones are great11:39
Xyc0Cayne: consider it a choice that no other OS gives you11:39
Cayne:)11:39
cafuegoCayne: try both, see which one you prefer, use that one.11:40
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cafuegoor innstall both and run 'em simultaneously.11:40
Razor-X`and the second was slightly protected11:40
Caynei'm a newbie...just switch with synaptic?11:40
Xyc0Cayne: or use both and never settle on just one11:40
Razor-X`s/protected/crappy11:40
Razor-X`errr11:40
Xyc0Cayne: You can switch between the two quite easily11:40
Razor-X`the second was protected11:40
Caynecan u run simultaneously?11:40
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Razor-X`Cayne: install 'em simeltaneously, and run 'em seperately11:40
Xyc0Cayne: Just inatall Ubuntu and get used to Gnome b4 trying KDE11:41
cafuegoCayne: Ubuntu comes with Gnome. if you want KDE< install 'kubuntu-desktop' using synaptic (yes, it's big) and choose Gnome or KDE from the Session menu upon login.11:41
Cayneahhh11:41
Caynek11:41
Caynelooks big !11:41
Razor-X`still, there's a WEP connection like next door -- i'm going to try and use AirSnort (for Windows) to do something about that11:41
cafuegoCayne: Probably an extra 200 or so Mb.11:41
Xyc0I keep mine WEP cause I don't mind others using my Wireless if they know how11:42
Razor-X`heh11:42
Razor-X`I keep mine MAC exclusive11:42
Xyc0I figured they have to earn it11:42
MartenHdoes anyone have experience running motion?11:42
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Xyc0cafuego: what router?11:43
cafuegoXyc0: router?11:43
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Xyc0you use wep correct, you need a wireless access point11:43
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batma8_IT WORKED!!!11:43
Xyc09 out of 10 its a router11:43
guimhi all11:43
cafuegoXyc0: Yes. What does that have to do with routers?11:43
zAo^lo guim11:44
guimI had a strange bug will updating my ubuntu11:44
cafuegoXyc0: The AP just hands out IPs. When you get an IP, you need to VPN to the Linux box (which is the router)11:44
guimif anyone want to see the screeshoit I made11:44
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cafuegoXyc0: if you access the web WITHOUT vpn, you get a web page and a log entry.11:44
zAo^guim, got URL?11:45
cafuegos/web/anything not on the wifi lan/11:45
guimpreparing it11:45
Kaiser_awayi apt-ed in eggdrop, but it cant find the config file, does someone know where i should create the file?11:45
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guimhttp://jupiter.cerdecam.be/~glederer/superubuntu.gif11:45
cafuegoKamping_Kaiser: /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/*11:46
zacegood morning.11:46
guimblank message to reprot an error11:46
guimreport11:46
Kamping_Kaisercafuego: I'm about to, i was hoping to cut a corner.11:46
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guim(it is in french, sorry)11:46
zAo^guim, I dont speak spanish!11:46
zAo^nor frensh :D11:46
guimit is FRENCH11:46
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zAo^sorry :$11:47
guimit just says that "hte following problems have been encountered on your system :"11:47
batma8_is there a way for me to view the windows partitions from linux?11:47
guimand then there is an empty list ;-)11:47
kemikbatma8_:  yes, mount them11:47
batma8_mount them huh11:47
kemik!windowspartition11:47
ubotukemik: I give up, what is it?11:47
zAo^tried in Synaptic?11:47
batma8_is that tough?11:48
Xyc0!ntfs11:48
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab11:48
kemik!ntfs11:48
kemikdamn, Xyc0 beat me to it ;)11:48
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guimthat was the security update11:48
travelleris there anywhere i can download newer versions of openoffice.org?11:48
batma8_:)11:48
guimof hoary11:48
batma8_thank god for you guys11:48
travelleri mean install*11:48
seliniumHI there, how do i create a link so if i put files in my ~/Music it will also appear in /var/music11:48
Xyc0batma8_: Just make sure you are here enough to help others11:48
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batma8_heck yes11:49
abarbaccialn -s ~/Music /var/music11:49
kemikbatma8_:  and, NTFS partitions will not be "writable"11:49
abarbacciathats for you selinium11:49
batma8_that is fine11:49
batma8_but i could read my mp3s n junk11:49
kemikjust so you know :)11:49
kemikyes11:49
seliniumabarbaccia: CHeers11:49
Xyc0I wonder if WinFS kernel patches are ready11:49
batma8_!ntfs is a program then11:49
ubotu...but ntfs is already something else...11:49
batma8_from synaptic?11:49
Xyc0batma8_: ntfs is the files system Windows XP uses11:49
batma8_right11:50
Xyc0batma8_: Linux uses Ext3 as default11:50
batma8_so how do i mount to the other partition so i can read me mp3s?11:50
Xyc0well, ubuntix does11:50
ofer0saw that? http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123223576.jpg11:50
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rob^does anyone know why evolution shows my inbox and other folders as if they have unread email in them, yet there isn't?11:50
Xyc0batma8_: it should all be in that link ubotu posted11:51
batma8_ohhhhhhh11:51
batma8_ok11:51
kemikXyc0:  that link is a bash script11:51
Xyc0aww not user friendsly html?11:51
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rob^ok, I'll guess I'll be filing a bug then..11:51
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kemikXyc0:  no, unfortunately not11:52
Xyc0batma8_: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/11:52
seliniumabarbaccia: it created the link but gnump3 can only see the folder not its contents :(11:52
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athloni installed apache 2 but there is no file called 'apxs' in /usr/bin, how do I find out which package has it ?11:53
Xyc0batma8_: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ntfs.html#4.511:54
zAo^athlon, zao@amd:~$ apt-cache search apxs11:54
zAo^apache-dev - development kit for the Apache webserver11:54
batma8_thanks again bro11:54
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athlonzAo^, thanks !11:55
zAo^np11:55
Xyc0batma8_: If you have a seperate partition for just music, you might want to consider formating in fat32.  Both Linux and Windows can read/write to fat3211:55
Xyc0batma8_: if it is the same partition as windows, dont bother11:56
zAo^remember that FAT32 is a single-user FS.11:57
kemikzAo^:  huh ?11:57
qivXyc0: kinux can write nfs too, just ubuntu does not as standard ;)11:57
kemikim using a shared FAT32 partition11:57
kemikqiv:  it is not safe to do so11:57
zAo^kemik, you cannot set any security settings11:57
kemikzAo^:  ah, i c what you mean now :)11:57
Xyc0qiv: none of that is openly supported11:57
ablyssjust put music on a home based server on your local LAN... solves read write issues and recognizes single or multiple users11:58
zAo^just dont try to write to NFTS... for your own good :D11:58
kemikqiv:  in this channel, only safe stuff is suggested. no good putting new users in tonnes of trouble11:58
Xyc0zAo^: even though ubntu tries horridly to11:58
Xyc0zAo^: assigning permissions11:58
zAo^Xyc0, does it? :-|11:58
kemikablyss:  indeed it does, but not all people can do that. :)11:58
batma8_actually Xyc0, i do have a separate partition just for mp3 and vids11:59
zAo^Xyc0, ah, sorry :) Yes. Use your mountoptions to solve it11:59
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batma8_ill convert to fat 3211:59
Xyc0zAo^: when I copy folders from vfat, everynow and then a folder is root permission only11:59
batma8_that makes more sence11:59
Xyc0zAo^: oh no, thats not what I meant11:59
kemikbatma8_:  wait, there's one more restriction, FAT32 cant store dvd-image files11:59
ablysskemik... anyone with a computer should be able too.. just a little motivation ;)11:59
batma8_what dvd player software do you guys use11:59
qivkemik: i did not suggest it either, but it would work ;)11:59
batma8_thats fine11:59
zAo^Xyc0, so: vfat > etx3 (example) will give you root:root?11:59
Xyc0batma8_: back up your music, when you format you erase everything on that partition11:59
batma8_its all divx and mp311:59
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kemikbatma8_:  Fat32 supports 4gb files at most, and dvd-images are larger :(11:59
batma8_right12:00
batma8_i remember that problem when i was dinkin with windows12:00
Xyc0zAo^: randomly, for somefolders is doesn't.  No one can answer why it does that12:00
kemikablyss:  not everyone affords having one more computer, and add to that the electricity cost of running it too :)12:00
Xyc0zAo^: It is easy enough to change permissions, and I dont copy too much from vfat, just to vfat12:00
zAo^Xyc0, hmm. Never noticed that12:00
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zAo^Xyc0, I have some vfat partitions, but I dont use them (anymore ;-)12:01
Xyc0kemik: that isn't true12:01
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Xyc0kemik: I've had many DVD images on my vfat, never once a problem12:02
zAo^hi joachim12:02
kemikXyc0:  about the 4gb cap ?12:02
Xyc0rgr12:02
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joachimI'm trying to unmount a drive, but I get a message that it's busy. but I've not got any documents on that drive open12:02
Xyc0unless my def of a DVD image is different from yours12:02
kemikXyc0:  a full dvd is somewhere in 4.8gb in size, and its not supported by the fat32 FS12:03
Xyc0joachim: is it mounted as /12:03
SeveasAll Breezy enthousiasts: Daniels has released a new version of X.org which is supposed to work again12:03
zAo^ the FAT32 filesize limit is 4G minus 1 Byte.12:03
joachimnope, it's mounted on a folder in my home12:03
batma8_what do i need to dload other than mplayer itself to play dvd discs12:03
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kemikfrom doom9.org: "problems with images larger than 4 GB (FAT32 can't handle files larger than 4 GB)."12:03
zAo^Seveas, lemme see. Thanks!12:03
kemikbatma8_:  i'd suggest Videolan instead for dvd-playback12:04
Seveasbatma8_, you might need libdvdcss212:04
Xyc0kemik: oh i understand now, no my DVD ripper divides up the rip into smaller files12:04
Xyc0kemik: DVD Decrypter12:04
batma8_thanks to both of ya12:04
zAo^Seveas, nothing new here. Still -4312:04
kemikDVD Dec. is a nice app, but if you download a dvd image you may not have that option ;)12:05
Xyc0batma8_: did you get everything working?12:05
kemikbatma8_:  www.videolan.org <- check it out, supports DVD_menu aswell (afaik mplayer does not supoprt menus)12:05
batma8_hell yeah, wireless is workin great, now im just tryin to get life back to normal, i have formating12:05
WaterSevenUbHi there.... Does anyone here uses Rosetta? Can anyone explain me why in French Breezy templates there is a template "gnome-app-install" and in Portuguese templates there isn't?12:05
Xyc0kemik: you can install vlc from backports now I belive12:05
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kemikXyc0:  oh, sweet :)12:05
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joachimI get "mount: /home/joachim/nt: device is busy", but *twice*, which seems weird12:06
batma8_videolan didnt show up in synaptic12:06
batma8_ehehhe12:06
topylihow do i copy my customized gnome menu to another user?12:06
Xyc0batma8_: you need to add backports12:06
kemik!backports12:06
ubotubackports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:06
batma8_backports12:06
kemikbatma8_:  need to add it in yuor /etc/apt/sources.list file12:06
Xyc0and you might want to activate multiverse and universe12:07
kemikbatma8_:  and then do "apt-get update" so the new repos is added in your apt-database12:07
batma8_how would i go bout doin that?12:07
Xyc0kemik: he really should do it through synaptic12:07
Xyc0!repos12:07
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:07
abhayksbatma8:  sudo apt-get update12:08
batma8_wish i woulda moved to linux years ago12:08
kemikXyc0:  i guess its more userfriendly.. i always use apt tho =)12:08
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Xyc0batma8_: no time is better then now12:08
abhayksubotu: exact answer -- thanks12:08
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, abhayks12:08
kemikbatma8_:  linux a few years ago was horrible :)12:08
batma8_true12:08
Xyc0kemik: I beg to differ, but then Ubuntu wasn't here a few years ago :D12:09
abhaykskemik: Now it is the best12:09
batma8_its just hard to be sooo good at windows, then feelin like a tardy pie12:09
seliniumHow do you go about ripping in mp3?12:09
kemikXyc0:  well, it was great for servers, but i refused to use linux as a desktop OS 5 years ago12:09
batma8_the only reason i use windows now is media conversion and emulators12:09
batma8_gotta have my n6412:09
Heijmenanybody know how to install Verdana, Arial & Helvetica on Ubuntu?12:09
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Xyc0batma8_: wiki.ubuntu.com, that site has alot of help to offer12:10
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batma8_i just bookmarked that12:10
batma8_ehehhe12:10
kemikand google, just add "ubuntu" in the search ;)12:10
Xyc0batma8_: search that site from now on to see if you can answer yourself12:10
kemikubuntuforums is nice12:10
batma8_wiiiiiiiiiil doo12:10
topylii copied ~/.local/share/applications to another user's home dir but that didn't suffice. her menu didn't change12:10
Seveastopyli, you need to restart the menu12:11
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Xyc0topyli: suso apt-get install smeg12:11
Xyc0sudo apt-get install smeg*12:11
Xyc0sorry12:11
Xyc0typo12:11
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YagisanHeijmen: apt-get install msttcorefonts12:12
topyliSeveas: the user was not logged in when i copied, i just logged in to the account in xnest now, so the menu should be fresh12:12
Heijmenyagisan: thanxxx12:12
Caynenice12:12
Seveastopyli, ehm, yeah...12:12
Xyc0topyli: you also need to restart gnome-panel12:12
Seveasodd..12:12
BeatYouFeedback?: http://dev.clsafety.com/test.php </notspam>12:12
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Amaranthtopyli: ~/.local/share/desktop-directories/ and ~/.config/menus/applications.menu12:13
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SeveasBeatYou, July 38 ?!?12:13
Amaranthtopyli: and the restart gnome-panel to see updates thing is fixed in breezy12:13
Xyc0BeatYou: yes it was12:13
topyliSeveas: ah. i seem to have copied all the .desktop files to her .local/share instead of .local/share/applications :)12:13
SeveasBeatYou, and it's off-topic here so stop it12:13
Seveastopyli, that would explain :)12:13
BeatYouSeveas i also <3 ubuntu12:14
Xyc0BeatYou: that changes the fact that was Spam?12:14
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BeatYouits not spam haha that site isn't even live, it cna't sell you anything12:14
AmaranthBeatYou: It's spam and off-topic.12:14
Xyc0Spam doesn't nessisarily mean ads12:14
SeveasBeatYou, this is not a help-me-with-my-html channel....12:15
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Seveasbut anyway: apart from the moving text in the links at the top it looked nice12:15
kemikSeveas:  and idea how to use debians network drivers instead of ubuntus? seems that the ubuntu drivers dont work aswell as the debian here (a really weird error)12:15
BeatYouSeveas its xhtml12:15
AmaranthBeatYou: Links that are irrelevant to the topic and/or current line of discussion are spam.12:15
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abhayksdo we really have to say RTFM12:15
BeatYouAmaranth: thanks for defining that, ive only been using the internet 5 years, i really need you to clear that up for me12:15
Seveaskemik, that would be odd12:15
AmaranthBeatYou: Careful.12:16
ablysseverybody chill12:16
SeveasBeatYou, you're on wafer thin ice there....12:16
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ablyssit's Friday.. now let's all do something fun :)12:16
kemikSeveas:  well, with ubuntu drivers i can start downloads, but they suddenly timeout (i get some wicked speeds to > 3mb/s, so im guessing the ISP strangles my threads as im supposed to have a 10mbit connection...)12:16
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joachimis there anything more forceful that umount?12:16
BeatYouut oh12:16
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joachimor a way of finding which processes are using the drive?12:16
Seveaskemik, hmm...12:17
Seveasjoachim, lsof | grep /mount/point12:17
Seveasprobably it's gam_server :)12:17
AmaranthSeveas: why not lsof /mount/point ?12:17
kemikSeveas:  maybe i should file a bugreport? (all works well in both debian and windows)12:18
SeveasAmaranth, because I always forget that possibility :)12:18
Seveaskemik, please do when you have enough info about it12:18
Xyc0ha ha, 5 years and he thought </notspam> helps?12:18
kemikthing is, im not sure how to get more info :/12:18
AmaranthXyc0: Please don't.12:18
abhaykslsof  /mount/point works .12:18
Xyc0Amaranth: im sorry?12:19
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Amaranthmy requests probably sound less godly without that on12:19
joachimwhat's gam_serve?12:19
Amaranthjoachim: *groan*12:19
Xyc0Amaranth: I didn't know what you were referring to12:19
Seveasjoachim, it's gamin - the thing that monitors file changes12:19
Amaranthjoachim: some program told gamin to watch files in that mount point12:20
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AmaranthXyc0: Don't keep the flame going.12:20
joachimoh. any way to tell it to stop?12:20
Seveas<Xyc0> ha ha, 5 years and he thought </notspam> helps? <-- that, it's not really polite to say that, even though he's gone12:20
Seveasjoachim, sudo pkill gam_server12:20
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Xyc0Sorry, just an after thought12:21
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joachimthanks :)12:21
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seliniumHow do you go about ripping music in mp3?12:23
rendidoe anyone know what editor for *.mdb ??12:24
deFryskselinium, I use grip12:24
subterrificselinium: first you need to enable the universe repository12:24
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joachimdoes anyone here use gparted?12:24
seliniumCheers guys12:24
seliniumjoachim yep12:25
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TziHi! =)12:25
abhayksrendi: I understand .mdb is M$ Access file12:25
joachimwhat do the icons mean next to the partition names?12:25
subterrificselinium: then you want to install the gstreamer0.8-lame package12:25
rendiyeah abhayks12:25
joachimI have a warning triangle next to several12:25
rendiany tool for viewer ?12:25
seliniumsubteffific: I already have12:25
seliniumsubterrific: I already have*12:25
TziI'm being masochistic and using Breezy... Does anyone know if there's an obvious reason why my usb mass storage devices don't show up?  They're definitely getting registered in the system, dmesg shows the devices being bound to sda12:26
rendii don't wanna switch to M$12:26
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seliniumsubterrific: Then instal grip?12:26
abhayksLet me look for some tool that can convert mdb to mysql data12:26
zAo^Tzi, there is a bug in the latest kernel: my DVD is gone too12:27
TzizAo^: Oh, damn =)12:27
rendiOOo can ??12:27
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TzizAo^: What've you done?12:27
zAo^Tzi, I filed a bug.12:27
subterrificselinium: i was going to say then you can use Sound Juicer, but i forgot the version in Hoary only does OGG, WAV, and FLAC12:27
abhayksOO does not have a database server12:27
zAo^Tzi, I work without my DVD players :)12:27
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subterrificselinium: grip will do though12:27
rendidoh12:28
rendisee this forum12:28
rendihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40575&highlight=ms+access12:28
seliniumsubterrific: lol, it is a shame, i don't want to install different apps for the 'same' purpose. Oh well! :)12:28
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seliniumjaochim: I am just having a look at mine...12:29
joachimthanks :)12:29
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seliniumjaochim: may take some time I am creating an iso from a dvd. It is trying to look at that drive....12:30
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abhayksrendi: this form clearly gives you the answer12:31
rendiit mean OO can ?12:31
abhayksrendi: then why u asked this question ?12:31
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rendiif can i'll download it12:31
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rendii'm not sure12:31
jtan325what's the easiest way to install fonts on a system-wide level?12:32
abhayksrendi: it says that "Base" can12:32
rendimm12:35
abhayksrendi: However, it can import spreadsheet files. So, what I did is from within MSAccess I exported the database to MSExcel. Then I was able to import the Excel spreadsheet into Base and save the database.12:35
rendilet me try12:35
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subterrificselinium: actually, are you sure sound juicer won't let you rip to mp3 with the lame gst plugin installed?12:35
LinuxDoltblargh.  what locale does Shift-JIS equate to?12:35
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subterrificselinium: i just checked and i don't have lame installed, so that might be why it wasn't in the preferences for me, hehe12:35
Positronwhen i load de win drivers of my wifi card from ndiswrapper, everything works (hardware present, driver present) ; when i put the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' it tolds me FATAL : Module ndiswrapper not found12:35
subterrificselinium: http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/99-MP3-encoding-with-Sound-Juicer.html12:35
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TzizAo^: Haha =) I see - Suppose this is what we get for living on the edge ;)12:36
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DaZjorzhello12:36
DaZjorzNo, i haven't install Ubuntu yet, xP12:36
znhhmm, is it true that the mbr is "Master boot partion", so that it's the boot partition on the disk wich has the master jumper12:36
DaZjorzi forgot i had to transfer some files off my pc12:36
DaZjorzand they are quit big12:36
joachimoh crap my display is going crazy again12:36
DaZjorzznh: ..12:36
DaZjorzznh: MBR: Master Boot Record12:36
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seliniumsubterrific: I did check the prefs, but i will have a go at the help on that page. CHeers12:37
znhalmost then12:37
joachimcould someone take a look at the thread I posted in the support forum please? does it look like a driver problem or hardware?12:37
DaZjorzznh: Master Boot Record can be on every disk, even slaves12:37
DaZjorzznh: it has partitioning, etc stuff in it,12:37
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DaZjorzalso an `active` option for 1 partition, which means, the partition that boots12:38
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DaZjorzthe bios reads that12:38
zAo^Tzi, yup :) I want to watch a DVD but... :)12:38
joachimhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5419212:38
DaZjorzDammit12:38
jtan325how do i install fonts in ubuntu?12:39
crashdjtan325: check the wiki12:39
TziWorking software is for the weak!  The weak, dammit12:39
DaZjorzI have met 3 joachims / joakims in the last week :S12:39
crashdmsstcorefonts12:39
zAo^jtan325, apt-cache search fonts ???12:39
Despeehgsfonts12:39
DaZjorzHydraIRC ?12:39
joachimDaZjorz, I never meet any. quite rare in the EK12:39
DaZjorzhm...12:39
joachimUK I mean12:39
jtan325!wiki12:39
LinuxDolterrr...12:39
DaZjorzJoachim: I met one on vacation, he was named Joakim and came from Denmark12:39
jtan325!wiki font12:39
jtan325!wiki fonts12:39
DaZjorzJoachim: And one was you12:40
DaZjorzJoachim: And I also saw one in a magazine12:40
DaZjorz:S12:40
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DaZjorzin an ad, by the way xP12:40
DaZjorzHello Joachim, blabla university stuff, if you have any other questions, blabla, then some name12:40
DaZjorzI still have to wait about 2 hours untill all files are transferred to the server..12:41
DaZjorzThen i can install Ubuntu. -,-12:41
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DaZjorzmehh.12:42
DaZjorzi gotta transfer 6 big files.12:43
DaZjorz68% | 62% | 32% | 28% | 27% | 20%12:43
DVSoftwareany idea how to setup volume control buttons on my notebook in kde12:43
joachimgonna have to reboot.... my display is totally unusable now :(12:44
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DVSoftwareit was easy in gnome12:44
BTJusticeHow can I make a GRUB boot floppy in Windows XP?12:44
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DVSoftwarebut kde seems to not recognize keycodes12:44
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jtan325crashd, so do i create my own folder in /usr/share12:45
jtan325if i want to do it on a system wide level12:45
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jtan325or do i just dump them into /usr/share/fonts12:45
DaZjorzI really like the fact that Ubuntu shares free CD's12:46
DaZjorzit made me like Ubuntu a lot12:46
DaZjorzbecause I didn't have to download Ubuntu and leave my PC on(line), etc etc12:46
DaZjorzI don't have much problems with downloading12:46
DaZjorzand the delivery toke a lot of time because I live in the netherlands.....12:47
DaZjorzbut the product I got was fantastic12:47
DaZjorzreally12:47
abhayksanyont uses ion3 WM12:47
abhayks?12:48
DaZjorz74% | 68% | 36% | 32% | 31% | 24%12:48
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DaZjorzwhats that abhayks ?12:48
milksteakheh12:48
milksteakno new cds being shipped until breezy release right?12:48
abhayksa Window Manager based on PWM12:48
PurpleMotionas of when?12:48
DaZjorzWindows manager ?12:48
PurpleMotioncause i ordered my cd's like a month ago12:49
BTJusticeI am trying to install Kubuntu which I was able to do.  During GGRUB it asked if I wanted to install it to MBR which I did.  Computer went straight to WIndows XP without and GRUB boot menu.  Will I need ot create a GRUN boot floppy?12:49
abhaykslike Gnome/KDE12:49
DaZjorzPurpleMotion: It really takes time till you get then12:49
DaZjorzthem*12:49
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PurpleMotionDaZjorz:  someone said there was a freeze till breezy.. i wanna know as of when12:49
BTJusticeMy PC set has 2 SATA hard drives (C: & D:) and to regular IDE drives (E: & F:).  I installed Kubuntu to F:12:49
Positronwhat does it mean when i get "FATAL : Module ndiswrapper not found"12:49
DaZjorzBTJustice: Install Ubuntu AFTER Windows and it will recognise Windows12:50
DaZjorzPositron: ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net12:50
DaZjorzi thought12:50
DaZjorzPurpleMotion: Don't know. Maybe look at the CD order page...12:51
DaZjorzBut my browser just quit :S12:51
PurpleMotionoh well i was able to order mine so i guess theyre ont he way12:51
PurpleMotioni dont mind waiting at all12:51
DaZjorzBTJustice: Thats Windows notice. In linux it is /dev/hd(a,b,c)(1,2,3)12:51
PurpleMotioni can download one and burn it if i need it :)12:51
DaZjorzYea12:51
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DaZjorzIt toke like 1.5 months for me to get them too12:51
BTJusticeI did.12:52
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BTJusticeWIndows XP was here first12:52
BTJusticeOn C:12:52
rendihi i have installed oo2 but when i'm open it it say Details: Failed to execute child process "/opt/openoffice.org1.9.113/program/soffice" (No such file or directory)12:52
lukaswhere do i se if the ssh-server is upp ??12:52
DaZjorzBTJustice: /dev/hda1 you mean :P12:52
rendican help me Sir12:52
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PurpleMotiontelnet localhost 2212:52
zAo^rendi, installed ervery oo pkg??12:52
BTJusticeI have no idea.  I can;t boot into Linux12:52
DaZjorzBTJustice: Erm12:52
Seveaslukas, ps aux | grep sshd12:52
lukasahha12:53
lukasthanks12:53
DaZjorzBTJustice: I think the partitioning says that /dev/hda1 is active. That means that it boots with that12:53
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PurpleMotionits because your c drive is serialata and you need 2.6.11 for support12:53
rendii'm donload it from http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/1112:53
DaZjorzBTJustice: And, you installed GRUB on the MBR on a different drive then number 112:53
BTJusticeOK, if I reinstall Kubuntu again.  What should I do?12:53
BTJusticeShould I reinstall Kubuntu?12:53
DaZjorzBTJustice: Maybe... Let me think ...12:53
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zAo^why not install grub in MBR?12:54
DaZjorzZao: Because he's installing in another hard disk12:54
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DaZjorznot hda12:54
BTJusticeI did.  It found WIndows XP Pro and asked if I wanted to install GRUB to MBR which I did.12:54
PurpleMotionis linux even seeing his sata drives?12:54
zAo^so? my ubuntu is on hdb212:54
PurpleMotioni know the box is, but is linux?12:54
BTJusticeI think it is the fact my Windows XP is installed on SATA drive.12:54
lukasis there a firewall or somting upp by default ?12:54
DaZjorzBTJustice: Try to install GRUB to the mbr on hda12:54
PurpleMotionzAo^:  but your bootloader is on /dev/hda int he mbr12:54
zAo^correct12:55
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BTJusticePurple:  It did see them when it asked my waht drive I wanted to use12:55
lukasi cannt ssh on the lan to this machine12:55
rendican help me sir ....12:55
DaZjorzBTJustice: Try to install your bootloader to the MBR of /dev/hda12:55
zAo^lukas, error msg?12:55
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lukasis there a fw in my way in some kind ?12:55
BTJusticeHow do I do that?12:55
PurpleMotionBTJustice:  i think it is the fact that 2.6.10 kernel doesnt SEE your sata drive, so it can't exactly write a bootloader to it12:55
DaZjorzBTJustice: If that doesnt work then, try to boot your PC with some rescue system and turn the active flag of the Windows partition off12:55
lukaszAo^:  where do i find that ??12:55
zAo^lukas, is sshd up? (ps -ef | grep sshd)12:55
DaZjorzPurpleMotion: Ofcourse it can, otherwise it couldnt even install xP12:56
joachimbye :)12:56
rendi zAo^ help me for this ... Cannot launch entry12:56
rendiDetails: Failed to execute child process "/opt/openoffice.org1.9.113/program/soffice" (No such file or directory)12:56
DaZjorzRendi12:56
lukaszAo^:  yes its upp12:56
rendii'm instal from http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/1112:56
DaZjorzTry to reinstall OpenOffice12:56
PurpleMotionDaZjorz:  xp can see it. i heard 2.6.10 doesn't recognize like 70% of sata systems12:56
BTJusticeNow wait a minute.  I if I reinstall Kubuntu, can I create a GRUB floppy to boot Kubuntu during the install?12:56
zAo^rendi, did you install by using apt/synaptic?12:56
rendireinstall12:56
rendimm okay12:56
rendinot12:56
rendish12:56
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DaZjorzBTJustice: Try the expert install12:57
tomasekhiho12:57
DaZjorzyou get a question where to install LILO/GRUB12:57
DaZjorzTry a disk, or if that doesn't work the /dev/hda MBR12:57
DaZjorzok ?12:57
zAo^BTJustice, or use Breezys kernel (2.6.12)12:57
BTJusticeOK, now was anything written to the MBR?12:57
BTJusticeSince GRUB isn;t working?12:57
twilightrendi..if you speak a few italian, see my doc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianInstallazioneOpenOffice1.9.11312:57
DaZjorzRendi: Try to go to /opt and see if there is a folder of openoffice thats named something else. Then try to make a symlink.12:57
tomasekcan someone give me personal answers due my problems on priv?12:57
DaZjorzRomasek: Problems ?12:57
twilightif not, there are deb packages at the end of the page12:57
tomasekyes12:57
zAo^tomasek, on what?12:57
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DaZjorzTomasek: Don't just say 'yes' xP I asked for your problems12:58
DaZjorz:P12:58
tomaseki downloaded iso install disk12:58
lukaszAo^:  where do i find the error msgs ??12:58
DaZjorzYes12:58
zAo^lukas, you said you cant connect: do you just get a timeout?12:58
topyliweirdness! i swear, copying .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications to another user doesn't work12:58
BTJusticeOK, now was anything written to the MBR?  Since GRUB isn't working?12:58
znhI've put another harddisk in my computer, what device is my second harddisk?12:58
lukaszAo^:  yes ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.121 port 22: Connection timed out12:59
DaZjorzBTJustice: Try to reinstall Kubuntu as mode 'expert' when you boot.12:59
zAo^lukas, did `sudo apt-get install openssh-server` ?12:59
DaZjorzLukas: Try telnet 192.168.1.121 2212:59
tomasek;/12:59
lukaszAo^:  yes12:59
znhDaZjorz: raw ssh is hard :-P12:59
zAo^lukas, `/etc/init.d/sshd start` ??12:59
BTJusticeDaZjorz: Was anything written to the MBR?  Since GRUB isn't working?01:00
DaZjorzznh: I know, but its trying of the ssh is online01:00
tomasekwho help me?!?!01:00
zAo^tomasek, what is the prob??01:00
DaZjorzBTJustice: If you run the installation CD with 'expert'mode01:00
DaZjorzTomasek01:00
DaZjorzPrivate01:00
tomasekhow can i boot cd01:00
tomasekwith linux01:00
rendiDaZjorz i'm go to folder /opt and can't see oo sit there and now how to make symlink ???01:00
DaZjorzTomasek: Privated01:00
BTJusticeBecause of SATA, I had to install using "boot: linux pci=noacpi"01:00
zAo^thnx DaZjorz01:00
DaZjorzRendi: There is nothing in that dir ?01:00
rendinothing01:00
rendiblank01:00
DaZjorzBTJustice: Try boot: expert pci=noacpi01:00
zAo^lukas, did you do a `sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start` ??01:00
BTJusticeok, thanks01:00
DaZjorzRendi: Install OpenOffice01:00
rendii have already install it01:01
DaZjorzRendi: Where01:01
lukaszAo^:  it says there is no such dir :/01:01
rendifrom i first instal ubuntu oo in myu pc01:01
zAo^lukas, sorry. `sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start`01:02
DaZjorzRendi: Retry install...01:02
DaZjorzmaybe that works?01:02
topylirendi: you installed the ubuntu OOo packages?01:02
rendi1 hours dude01:02
lukasyes but i do it in a root terminal :/01:02
zAo^why dont you use the ubuntu pkgs??01:02
rendimy conection sucks01:02
zAo^lukas, you need to do it as root/sudo01:02
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lukask01:02
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DaZjorzLukas & zAo: its sshd not ssh01:02
rendii'm try reinstall now01:03
zAo^DaZjorz, I thought so to, but it is ssh!01:03
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DaZjorzreally ?01:03
DaZjorzno01:03
DaZjorzthe program is called sshd01:03
lukaszAo^:  wtf hmm01:03
DaZjorzanderm01:03
DaZjorzi think its not in /etc/init.d01:03
DaZjorzi thought it was in /bin or something01:03
DaZjorz. /bin/sshd01:03
DaZjorzor something01:03
zAo^DaZjorz, I know; its a daemon, but the startscript is called SSH01:04
DaZjorznot sure about that01:04
DaZjorzlet me look01:04
lukaszAo^: i cant star the ssh :/01:04
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DaZjorz...01:04
zAo^lukas, why?01:04
DaZjorzzao, lukas, wait a sec, i'll look it up01:04
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dv__hi01:04
lukaszAo^:  it was allready on :701:04
jowi/usr/sbin/sshd01:04
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zAo^lukas, then theres a network problem I think..01:04
dv__is it very problematic to recompile a kernel with ubuntu,01:04
lukasok01:04
zAo^lukas, try: `ssh localhost`01:05
jowistart it with /etc/init.d/ssh start01:05
dv__that is does it break the system if one doesnt use the ubuntu kernel?01:05
lukaszAo^:  that works01:05
zAo^lukas, then there's a network problem (router??)01:05
lukasi cant telenet  :(01:05
lukasyeah01:05
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lukasand i dont hawe axxec to the router01:05
zAo^lukas, can you ping from the remote machine?01:05
lukaszAo^: yes01:06
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cbris there no alsaconf in ubuntu?01:06
jowilukas, how do you try to connect to the remote machine?01:06
zAo^lukas, can I try to connect to your IP?01:06
lukasjowi:  shh user@ip -p blabla01:07
lukaszAo^:  well i think it is the router01:07
DaZjorzlukas: Is the remote machine Linux or Windows01:07
lukashmma01:07
lukasnetbsd01:07
DaZjorzah01:07
jowilukas, skip the -p part and you should be queried for the password (if the remote machine has a ssh server active that accepts connections)01:08
dv__no problems? :)01:08
zAo^just try `ssh -l USER IP`01:08
lukasjames:  hmm nice one01:08
supernixanyone here familiar with firestarter ?01:09
lukasjowi: even01:09
jowi:-)01:09
DaZjorzlukas: Try this01:09
lukasjowi:  heh it hates me :/01:09
DaZjorzon the local machine01:09
DaZjorzssh -l USER 127.0.0.101:09
DaZjorzif that does work01:09
DaZjorzthen its the router01:09
cbris there no alsaconf in ubuntu?01:09
znhhmm, I can hardly choose between ext3 and reiserfs..01:09
jowilukas, nah. but maybe your router is blocking port 2201:09
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DaZjorzotherwise its the local pc01:10
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lukasDaZjorz:  it worked01:10
zenwheni use reiser01:10
zenwhennever had a probelm with it, and it is faster01:10
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znhyea, but I heard that ext3 is more stable01:11
lukasjowi:  well i hawe put the port 5222 in the conf :/01:11
znhnever had a unstable reiserfs anyways01:11
Raptoidselamlar.01:11
sumahey is this the right place to ask newbie questions?01:11
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znhsuma: yes, don't try #debian - they only make suggest you "RTFM"01:11
teganI have a usb harddrive, (fat32) that's getting mounted with a umask of 077 (unhelpful to say the least)  I have no entry in /etc/fstab for it, and it's all working quite nicely01:12
jowilukas, have you told your client that? ssh user@ip -D port01:12
lukasjowi:  -p 5222 isnt it ?01:13
teganI know I can add an entry for the drive in fstab for it, but then it won't work for any other drives I add, does anyone know if I can change the defaults that the hotplug/automounter is using?01:13
sumacool well could anybody tell me how to get an authentication key for repository?01:13
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znhsuma: you don't need one, the files should have a key.. if they don't it's stil save (when you are using default reps.)01:14
dv__right now I'm deciding if I should switch to ubuntu01:14
jowilukas, you are right. messed up01:14
sumano im using backport reps01:14
znhdv__: what had you have before01:14
dv__I have been using debian unstable, but this is totally broken now01:14
znhsuma: I don't recommend backports01:14
DaZjorzlukas: If you can connect to local PC from Local and not from Remote01:14
dv__I still couldnt get kde to work,01:14
dv__gnome neither01:14
znhdv__: ubuntu is way better then debian unstable01:14
dv__now, ubuntu seems sweet01:14
crashdubuntu is way better than debian.01:14
sumareally why? i heard that's the only place to get mp3 codecs and the like01:14
DaZjorzlukas: then it must be the router. Try to turn the local firewall off. Does it work then ?01:15
dv__but, am I restricted to the precompiled kernel and gnome/kde?01:15
dv__since my laptop has some weird hw I have to configure the kernel on my own01:15
teganmarillat and backports both have potential for damage suma01:15
Seveasyou can easily tweak the Ubuntu kernel01:15
dv__cool01:15
Seveasand Ubuntu has xfce, fluxbox, windowmaker,...01:15
Seveasdv__: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto01:15
dv__because, for example suse gets broken if one tampers with the kernel01:15
znhyea, I'm glad gnome is not burned in01:15
sumayes that's why i thought i would get a key so the software could be authenticated01:15
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Seveasdv__, best is to follow these instructions and take the Ubuntu sources01:16
dv__does ubuntu use alsa as default?01:16
dv__k01:16
Seveasand just tweak what you need :)01:16
znhsuma: you have to wait before the packages in backports become default, they they would get a 'key'01:16
Seveasubuntun uses esd on top of alsa by default01:16
dv__you know, this system needs to load the fglrx driver *before* the sis-agp01:16
Seveasin the next version esd will be ditched again01:16
dv__else the agp does not work01:16
dv__etc.01:16
dv__a somewhat weird sys01:16
Seveasdv__, that requires no kernel compilation01:17
znhdv__: fglrx is always a whore01:17
LinuxDoltwhat ubuntu does is use an emulated oss beneath alsa beneath esd01:17
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Seveasjust add fglrx to the top of /etc/modules :)(01:17
dv__but sis-agp isnt compiled01:17
dv__is it?01:17
Seveaslemme checlk01:17
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ slocate sis-agp01:17
Seveas/home/dennis/temp/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/drivers/char/agp/sis-agp.c01:17
Seveas/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/sis-agp.ko01:17
znhlol my brother downloaded ubuntu from some 3rd party bittorrent site.. It was even more unstable then windows xD01:17
sumaahh well what do you recommend i do for the "lame" package. i heard it will never become default because of copyright issues.01:17
DaZjorzThe transfer is still not finished....01:17
Seveasit is :)01:17
DaZjorz100% | 100% | 72% | 63% | 68% | 58%01:18
teganso anyone know how to change the default settings the default automounter is using?01:18
znhsuma: what are you trying to play?01:18
DaZjorzTegan: What do you want to tdo01:18
Seveastegan, you mean the thing that mounts usb drives?01:18
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DaZjorzTegan: Not mount a partition at boot? Or something else?01:18
sumai have also managed to configure mp3 playback, im trying to enable mp3 ripping01:18
teganmy usb harddrive (which works just fine without any entries in fstab) gets the umask set to 07701:18
suma*replace "also" with "already"01:18
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znhsuma: from a stream?01:18
Seveastegan, odd01:18
teganI know :)01:19
Seveasis it a fat/ntfs drive?01:19
lukaswhere can i se if there is a failed connection ??01:19
sumaznh: from a cd01:19
DaZjorzTegan: Try to look for the parameters01:19
Seveaslukas, failed connection for what?01:19
DaZjorzTegan: Maybe the USB driver is automounting it.01:19
teganlook for whose parameters where?01:19
lukasim trying to ssh01:19
DaZjorzLukas:01:19
SeveasDaZjorz, no, that's done by pmount+hal01:19
DaZjorzTegan: mount --help01:19
znhdoes anyone know some application that monitors harddisk activity?01:19
SeveasDaZjorz, that does not help01:19
DaZjorzLukas: Try to turn your firewall off01:19
Seveastegan, is it a fat/ntfs drive?01:20
lukashmm01:20
DVSoftwareznh, gkrellm01:20
DaZjorzLukas: Its obvious that the SSH is working, but the remote SSH isn't01:20
lukasis there a fw on by deafault01:20
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tegandaz: I know how to mount it, (it's fat) and I know that I can just add an entry in fstab for it, and it will go away01:20
dv__argh.01:20
Seveaslukas, do you try to SSH to your machine?01:20
dv__i hate disconnects.01:20
teganbut then it will happen again for any other usb drives01:20
DaZjorzLukas: So there must be something wrong between your local and remote pc01:20
DaZjorzSeveas: Yes he did01:20
znhDVSoftware: yea, but I hate all those moving krellms01:20
teganand I really don't want to have to go adding fstab entries for everything01:20
DaZjorzSeveas: And local SSH is working, but remote isn't.01:20
tegansort of defeats the purpose of hotplug01:20
Seveashmm ok01:20
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DaZjorzLukas: Are both pc's in the same network ?01:20
Seveasbehind NAT?01:20
dv__<Seveas> just add fglrx to the top of /etc/modules :)( <- last line I got01:20
lukasDaZjorz:  yes01:21
Seveasdv__, ah01:21
znh-- changing computer -- brb01:21
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DaZjorzLukas: Does pinging work ?01:21
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Seveasdv__, well good news: sis-agp is compiled01:21
lukasDaZjorz:  yes01:21
dv__fine01:21
dv__very fine01:21
DVSoftwareznh, turn off krellms that you don't need01:21
dv__and powernow is included?01:21
Seveasyup01:21
dv__good01:21
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dv__else my laptop would constantly run at 100% cpu :)01:21
DaZjorzlukas: Does your local pc, remote pc or router have a firewall?01:21
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Seveasdv__, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/97001:21
Seveasthat's the complete .config01:21
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dv__hmm.01:22
lukasDaZjorz:  the netbsd server has a firewall i think01:22
dv__ok, the crucial stuff is there01:22
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dv__i think I can install ubuntu without any trouble01:22
DaZjorzlukas: Try to turn it off, if it works then, turn it on and add a rule for port 2201:22
lukasDaZjorz:  i hawe no axx to root on that one or xxes to the router man this is fucking cracy :/01:22
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DaZjorzlukas: No root access to the local PC ?01:24
DaZjorzhow do you have SSH then01:24
DaZjorzi mean01:24
DaZjorzwho gave you SSH access01:24
DaZjorzif you have no root access, then someone else must have01:24
DaZjorzyou can't give SSH access to yourself01:24
lukason the local yes but not on the netbsd one :/01:24
Seveaslukas, ssh kaarsemaker.net01:24
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Seveasdoes that timeout?01:24
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DaZjorzAdministrateur? O.o lol01:24
zAo^:)01:24
znhmust be frence01:24
DaZjorzyeah01:24
DaZjorzfrench01:25
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dv__ubuntu didn't switch to gcc4 yet, right?01:25
DaZjorza french administrator01:25
znhlol I can't even spell french :-P01:25
znhi...  just did :-01:25
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sumaznh: i get the idea now... software from the backports is not signed by ubuntu and so might be a trojan... well i'd like to avoid being owned, so i think i'll avoid downloading --- thanks for help01:25
Seveasdv__, in the development verion gcc4 is the default for anything but the kernel01:25
jtgameoverdoes anyone here know anything about installing fonts in ubuntu?01:25
dv__because the ati drivers do not support gcc401:25
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Mezsuma, I can assure you you wont be "owned"01:26
StormxUh01:26
lukasSeveas: works :901:26
cloudreadergcc4? you are running breezy?01:26
Seveasdv__, fglrx will not work in the next version since Ubuntu switches to X11R7 and fglrx has no driver for that...01:26
StormxReally needing root permissions to a mounted hdd......01:26
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znhMez: he might mean the gamer explaination01:26
Mezsuma, we're looking into getting the old repository signed01:26
DaZjorzLukas: Lets see01:26
Seveaslukas, ok, so you can rule out problems on your machine01:26
dv__oh wonderful01:26
Mezsuma: and the official backports is signed01:26
Seveaskick the administrator of the netbsd machine01:26
DaZjorzLukas: You can SSH to local. Remote can SSH to outside network. Remote can't SSH to local.01:26
lukasSeveas:  yes i know :)01:26
znhadminstrateur :-P01:26
dv__lets hope it doesnt take too long before ati releases a new version01:27
DaZjorzSo the problem must be at local01:27
Seveasdv__, indeed01:27
sumareally? how come when i try to download gstreamer0.8-lame it says it's not signed01:27
lukasDaZjorz:  im sshing from a server on the local lan01:27
DaZjorzlukas: Problem must be at local. Try to turn off firewall01:27
dv__are there similar binary problems with nvidia drivers?01:27
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znhdv__: start hopeing that you buy a nvidia card01:27
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teganso I take it knowone knows where hotplug's default umasks are coming from?01:27
DaZjorzlukas: huh ?01:27
dv__znh, in a *laptop*?01:27
StormxYo, how do I get root permissions for /mnt/windows/?01:27
znhdv__: sure01:27
dv__i have an nvidia card in the PC01:27
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Seveasdv__, afaik yes but i'm not sure...01:27
zAo^Stormx, sudo -s01:27
lukasDaZjorz:  i think its all fucked here hehehr01:27
dv__but I can't exchange the laptop graphics chipset :P01:27
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SeveasStormx, your talking nonsense :)01:27
topyliSeveas: ok, the user's home dir must be pretty screwed. no menu changes succeed, i even used smeg logged in as her01:27
znhdv__: awwww.. then buy a new laptop :-P01:27
DaZjorzLukas: The problem is that nobody can SSH to the SSH server (local)01:28
mjrSeveas, hmh, given that, it would be even nicer if the r300 driver made it in... But can't have everything, I suppose.01:28
DaZjorzthe SSH server must have a firewall01:28
SeveasStormx, you mean *write* permissions i guess01:28
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DaZjorztry to turn it off or add a rule01:28
DaZjorzin any way01:28
Amaranthtopyli: you need to restart gnome-panel after making a change01:28
DaZjorzor ask the administrator of that machine01:28
dv__znh, gimme the money :)01:28
topyliAmaranth: i did, yes01:28
zAo^Stormx, is it a NTFS drive?01:28
dv__then I'll buy an IBM thinkpad with nvidia chip01:28
dv__:D01:28
XIIIi need help with settin up real player01:28
lukasDaZjorz:  not local and from outside01:28
XIIIi set it up01:28
Amaranthtopyli: you installed the gnome-menus 2.10.2 packages?01:28
XIIIbut after that it gave me that message when i tried to run it01:29
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XIIIDetails: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)01:29
sumaubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net ... is that the official backports? do you experienced users find software from there to be safe?01:29
Seveassuma, use only hoary-extras from that repository01:29
Seveassuma, hoary-backports can be grabbed from archive.ubuntu.com01:29
Mezsuma: It is safe... but, ofifcial is safer01:29
XIIIalso this message : Could not find 'realplay'01:29
topyliAmaranth: i seem to have 2.10.1 from backports01:29
topyliAmaranth: 2.10.201:29
SeveasXIII: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:30
Cayneglibc 2.3.4 is this available with ubuntu?01:30
SeveasXIII, follow these instructions for properly installing realplayer01:30
ofer0any one knows a good ftp program for ubuntu? not kbear and gftp. they are both annoying01:30
SeveasCayne, no01:30
sumaok understood i will try to minimize the software i download from there... thanks for help guys igtg01:30
Cayne:(01:30
cloudreadercan somebody dcc send me a save sources.list with backports?01:30
StormxHey sorry01:30
topyliAmaranth: is it b0rken? should i revert back to previous?01:30
Amaranthtopyli: no idea then01:30
zAo^XIII, installed realplayer ?01:30
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Amaranthtopyli: no, you need 2.10.201:30
lukashmm01:30
Seveascloudreader: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:30
StormxI just did sudo nautlilus /mnt/windows/01:30
XIIIok Seveas01:30
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Amaranthtopyli: i don't support any user not using 2.10.2 :)01:30
SeveasStormx, BAD IDEA01:30
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topyliAmaranth: ok, i'll investigate :)01:31
Seveasclose that nautilus ASAP before it screws up .ICEauthority01:31
lukasbhha01:31
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cloudreaderthanks seveas01:31
StormxSeveas: How so.....01:31
StormxSeveas: Its FAT01:31
zAo^lol ^^01:31
SeveasStormx, the proper way to get read/write access to fat is by mounting it correctly01:31
Seveasadd umask=0000 to the mount options01:32
StormxSeveas: It is mounted correctly xD01:32
StormxOh fair enough01:32
Seveasand please immediately close that nautilus01:32
StormxFour 0s, not three?01:32
zAo^Seveas, make that gid=1000,umask=0002 plz01:32
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SeveaszAo^, makes no difference for most people ;)01:32
Stormx^_^ I just fucked up my drive, didn't I01:32
SeveasStormx, no01:32
lukasarrg01:32
zAo^Seveas, well :) I dont want everyone to have writeacces on the whole drive :)01:33
DaZjorzLukas ? Contact the adminstrator and ask him to turn firewall off or add an access rule for port 2201:33
DaZjorzthats all you have to do01:33
DaZjorzi expect it to work then01:33
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lukasDaZjorz:  i know01:33
DaZjorz*though i expect these things more...*01:33
StormxUm. I got errors in terminal x.X01:33
Seveasbut you might have f*ed up your login, if you have problems logging in the next time: login on the console and rm ~/.*authority01:33
lukasDaZjorz:  just that he is not there01:33
ShishIf I have a bug that I'd think is an upstream GNOME thing (but I'm not entirely sure, and don't want to build a vanilla GNOME for myself to find out), should I post it in the GNOME or ubuntu bugzilla?01:33
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DaZjorzlukas: Write it down :)01:33
SeveasStormx, if you really want to do it properly, unmount the drive and remove it from fstab01:33
SeveasStormx: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically01:33
lukasi will ;)01:34
DaZjorzlukas: Or call him. Since there is an SSH server running, he could probably do it remote.01:34
StormxSeveas: Thanks01:34
DaZjorzlukas: Some people can even remote control their SSH server with their mobile01:34
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SeveaszAo^, ^-- that script by default does the uid=1000,fmask=0133,dmask=0022 :)01:34
lukashehe01:34
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zAo^Seveas, nice :)01:35
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lukashmm brb fixxing some coffy01:35
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zAo^is there a way to emulate AIX on my ubuntu machine?01:35
topyliDaZjorz: i do it all the time :)01:35
ofer0any one knows a good ftp program for ubuntu? not kbear and gftp. they are both annoying ?01:35
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SeveaszAo^, why would you want to emulate a broken OS :)01:35
=== DaZjorz wants to know if it is possible to use like SMS to give a server commands ?
Demian___what is an easy program to convert flac to mp3?01:36
=== DaZjorz via SSH
Seveasofer0, places -> connect to server01:36
Seveasofer0, or mc01:36
ofer0mc?01:36
dv__apart from the DE at the beginning,01:36
ofer0midnight commander?01:36
Seveasyup01:36
dv__does it matter if I choose ubuntu or kubuntu?01:36
ofer0ok thanx Seveas01:36
zAo^Seveas, lol :) I work for a large bank a a AIX/SUN security officer; like to test some things without bying a RS/6000 ;)01:36
=== DaZjorz || or, make a chat session to give it commands LOL
ags06what is the root password01:36
Seveasdv__, if you want gnome: Ubuntu, if you want KDE: kUbuntu01:36
zAo^dv__, do you like gnome?01:36
Seveasags06, there is no root password01:36
cloudreaderseveas: I created a new sources.list with the stuff you pointed me too and there are errors loading synaptic01:37
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dv__yes, but I can get gnome if I installed kubuntu, and vice versa, right?01:37
zAo^dv__, right01:37
Seveasdv__, absolutely01:37
dv__I like to switch between them01:37
Seveastakes one command :)01:37
=== DaZjorz wants to know: is it possible to give my server a phone number, and then make it auto-accept chat sessions or SMS'es via SSH ? LOL
Seveasdv__, then install Ubuntu01:37
dv__sometimes kde, sometimes gnome, sometimes ion301:37
dv__(what a contrast :) )01:37
Seveasand whrn it's installed: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:37
topyliDemian___: Sound Converter: http://soundconverter.berlios.de/01:37
dv__hmmmm01:37
dv__k01:37
Seveascloudreader, what's the error?01:38
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SeveasDaZjorz, that is technically possible01:38
cloudreaderseveas: I closed the window, let me restart synaptic01:38
ags06i just installed ubuntu01:38
ags06linux newbie01:38
DaZjorzAnd ?01:39
Seveasags06, welcome aboard then :)01:39
ags06everything seems alright01:39
kemikags06:  the root pass is usually the same as you default user01:39
ags06thanx01:39
Demian___topyli, thnx01:39
Seveaskemik, bull01:39
DaZjorzJoin the group, ags0601:39
tegankemik no it's not01:39
Seveasthere is no root password01:39
zAo^ags06, take a look @ www.ubuntuguide.org01:39
Seveas!ubuntuguide01:39
DaZjorzSeveas: You know a good IRC program ?01:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.01:39
tegansudo asks for _your_ oassword01:39
zAo^DaZjorz, Xchat ?01:39
Seveasags06, do NOT look at ubuntuguide.org, try wiki.ubuntu.com01:39
cloudreaderseveas: no errors anymore, I guess it complained about my having put a completely new sources.list01:39
zAo^Seveas,  :S01:40
Seveascloudreader, hehe :)01:40
kemiktegan:  mmh thats true01:40
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DaZjorzzAo: Console or KDE01:40
Seveascloudreader, something about 'Unable to open /var/lib/apt/lists/something' I guess01:40
dv__uh, I should get 5.04, right?01:40
zAo^DaZjorz, for Gnome: Xchat, for console: BitchX01:40
Seveasdv__, yes01:40
DaZjorzzAo^: KDE IRC program01:40
Seveasthat's the latest stable01:40
zAo^DaZjorz, dont remember the name, mom01:41
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kemikDaZjorz:  gui: xchat console: irssi01:41
=== DaZjorz wants to know: Someone knows a good KDE IRC program ?
Seveaskvirc maybe?01:41
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teganbitchx is evil, use irssi, just like bitchx, but without all the evil autokick/autoban/autocrap01:41
Seveaskopete does irc too01:41
zAo^DaZjorz, Konversation !01:41
typoI can't make my microphone work. The levels seem to be fine, any hints?01:41
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DaZjorzThanks :)01:41
Seveastypo, speak louder ;)01:41
leetegan: plus irssi isn't a steaming pile of buggy feces =)01:41
DaZjorzGonna install Ubuntu now.01:41
dv__mic in linux seems to be some real issue01:42
Seveaslee, true :)01:42
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dv__never got it to work either01:42
zAo^DaZjorz, not on Ubuntu at all?01:42
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typodv__,  works fine in my laptop01:42
XIIISeveas it's the same01:42
dv__ah, typo.01:42
XIIInothing changed01:42
dv__it DOES work, but I hear me speaking, which is something i dont want01:42
DaZjorzzAo^: I'm gonna delete Windows and install Ubuntu. Then install Windows in VMWare, if I need it.01:42
DaZjorzCuz I like Ubuntu.01:42
XIIIand it doesn't work again that real player01:42
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typodv__, yes, but I can't get even that to work01:42
DaZjorz                                  See ya in Ubuntu in 30 minutes or something :)01:42
teganso anyone even know exactly what process handles automounting usb drives in ubuntu 5.04? there doesn't seem to be any autofs stuff01:42
zAo^DaZjorz, welcome :) Did that too. Nerver started vmware though lol :)01:43
Seveasdv__, lol :)01:43
Seveastegan, HAL + pmount01:43
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Digistegan, gnome-volume-manager too01:43
cloudreaderI got my grandfather to migrate from windows to ubuntu and he is very happy (he is 71) he kept gettins spyware and viruses in Windows01:43
Seveastrue, that one too01:43
ags06has anyone tried to install realplayer01:43
ags06if not what i use to play *.rm files01:43
XIIIanyone has anyother solution for that real player to run from my machine?01:43
ags06and what about firewall01:43
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zAo^cloudreader, good to hear so :)01:43
Seveasags06: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:44
Seveasags06: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.01:44
DaZjorzCloudreader: Lol, thats fantastic01:44
leeyou keep mentioning hal and hal having problems with 2.6.12, Seveas ... what is hal? (and are there 9000 of them)01:44
zAo^XIII, error msg?01:44
XIIIyeah01:44
DaZjorzCloudreader: I never heard that people who are 65+ like Linux LOOOOOL01:44
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XIIIDetails: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)01:44
XIIIalso this message : Could not find 'realplay'01:44
Seveaslee, HAL == hardware abstraction layer01:44
zAo^XIII, installed by apt?01:44
black_Nightmareany of you know if the livecd (its slight older copy I think admittly) supports pc-to-pc usb transfer cables?01:44
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XIIIno01:44
SeveasXIII, sudo updatedb (takes a while)01:44
cloudreaderhe found it easier to use than windows as unlike windows he can't screw serious things (as he doesn't know how to to sudo and let's keep it that way!)01:44
black_NightmareI think the livecd is Hoary01:45
SeveasXIII, then: slocate realplay01:45
zAo^black_Nightmare, I think so yes01:45
XIII.bin and .rpm01:45
leeSeveas: where is that controlled/what is it controlled by?01:45
SeveasXIII, paste the output of the latter on the pastebin01:45
zAo^XIII, `sudo apt-get install realplayer`01:45
Seveaslee, I'm afraid I don't know the details, but it's a layer between kernel and system programs01:45
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cloudreaderHe had just trouble configuring his printer and I couldn't do it for him as I am many milles away but I suggested he requests help in the forum and now it is fine01:46
XIIISeveas where is the pastebin?01:46
dv__:O01:46
dv__600 MB01:46
Seveas!pastebin01:46
ubotupastebin is probably at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood01:46
black_NightmarezAo^ hm ty I was curious about using the livecd to transfer things from another pc to this pc just once without having to bother installing the window drivers for the cable etc01:46
dv__forgot about the size of that iso01:46
black_Nightmare;)01:46
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leeSeveas: ok, let me rephrase, where is it, some package, or some config option in the kernel?01:46
XIII!pastebin01:46
StormxSeveas, sorry I'm a little late here. What do I do with that file you linked me to?01:46
ubotumethinks pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood01:46
cloudreaderThe average 65+ just needs Email, Web browser, Openoffice and printer configured. Ubuntu rules at that01:46
Stormxhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab01:47
Stormxthat one01:47
dv__is there a install-CD-torrent?01:47
black_Nightmarecloudreader...lol01:47
SeveasStormx, download it01:47
dv__oh01:47
StormxSeveas: done01:47
Seveasand run sudo bash winmc_fstab01:47
dv__just overlooked them01:47
leeSeveas: also, do you realise this is a linux help channel?  you're not being anywhere near condescending enough ;)01:47
Stormxno such file or directory... but it is there >_>01:47
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rzrhi01:48
zAo^($PATH correct??)01:48
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dv__um, the install/live DVD is for both install-less preview and installing, right?01:48
cloudreaderMy grandpa stil doesn't believe that he is not likely to get more viruses and keeps running f-prot for viruses in ubuntu like he got used to do in windows01:48
zAo^lo rzr01:48
dv__if so, I'll check out the dvd at the university01:48
Seveaslee, ehrm, english is not my native language. What's 'condescending'?01:48
rzrhow comes that hoary's vlc cant encore in theroa ?01:48
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zAo^cloudreader, lol :)01:48
rzrhow comes that hoary's vlc cant encoDe in theroa ?01:48
Seveasdv__, it is indeed01:48
StormxSeveas: How handy ;-)01:48
leeSeveas: are you familiar with #debian, specifically mwilson?  otherwise, read "rude and obnoxious" ;)01:49
SquareGuydv__, yeah the dvd image is quite nice01:49
Seveaslee, check :)01:49
teganmanager.c/91: non-local DISPLAY variable, exiting01:49
teganstupid gnome-volume-manager won't let me use it remotely :(01:49
Seveaslee, we like to keep this channel friendly, unlike #debian :)01:49
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bystanderlee: mwilson has raised rudeness to the level of art ;)01:49
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dv__now it would be perfect if I found some store with a linux magazine with an ubuntu hoary DVD :)01:50
leebystander: he is certainly a master of his craft01:50
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XIIISeveas : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/32988801:50
Hoaas|n00bCan anyone tell me how to install codecs so I can play .mp3? or where to find it?01:51
lukashmm01:51
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bystander!mp301:51
ubotuhmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:51
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lukasif i want to create a file what do i do then01:51
lukastouche or somting01:51
topylilukas: touch01:51
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flodinecan someone tell me is there a gtk-themes for ubuntu?01:51
lukasahha01:51
zAo^Seveas, duurde even, maar het betekend "verliest zijn zelfrespekt"01:52
joakimGuys, I need some help :D How do I make a certain screen resolution default for each user when he/she logs on? The "default for %n" does not really work as intended01:52
jowiflodine, art.gnome.org is a good place to start/continue01:52
XIIIzAo^ : root@nihon:/home/xiii # sudo apt-get install realplayer01:52
XIIIReading package lists... Done01:52
XIIIBuilding dependency tree... Done01:52
XIIIrealplayer is already the newest version.01:52
XIII0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:52
topyliflodine: sure, and more on the web01:52
topylihow nice01:52
topyli:)01:52
SeveaszAo^, heej, nog meer Nederlanders :)01:53
flodineno the theme changer01:53
SeveaszAo^, #ubuntu-nl </spam> :)01:53
joakimWhich file can I edit to remove certain screen resolutions or add the one I want from startup?01:53
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SeveasXIII, how are you starting realplayer?01:53
topyliflodine: you mean gtk-theme-switch?01:53
u19809any php5 packages around ?01:53
flodineyes01:53
cloudreaderIf somebody is interested I have put together a loginscreen that resembles XP, with faces to click on01:53
Seveasjoakim, /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:53
Seveasu19809, people.debian.org/~dexter/01:53
joakimThanks01:53
u19809thx01:54
XIIIdirect click on applications/sound and video/realplayer1001:54
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joakimOh yeah, I remember this file from my Gentoo days ^^01:54
XIIIor right click on the file i want to open and to choose from the list real player 1001:54
flodinetopli yes01:54
topyliflodine: yep, it's in universe01:54
jowiflowin, yes, gnome-theme-manager can change gtk. but personally i downloaded gtk-chtheme since it is much lighter01:54
bystanderflodine: gtk-theme-switch is the name of the package :)01:54
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SeveasXIII, hmm, maybe it starts the wrong one. You still have a lot of realplayer cruft in your homedir. Try moving that to a new folder01:55
jowiflodine, that comment was ment for you, not flowin01:55
jowi:-)01:55
XIIIhow Seveas ?01:55
joakimSeveas, may I private message you for a second?01:56
StormxNo.01:56
SeveasXIII, mkdir /home/xiii/cruft01:56
Seveasmv /home/xiii/programs/realplayer  /home/xiii/cruft01:56
Seveasjoakim, sure01:56
XIIISeveas then?01:57
Seveasthen retry01:57
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Seveasoh and: mv /home/xiii/Desktop/hxsetup /home/xiii/cruft01:57
XIIIthen??, retry to run or to install??01:58
Seveasrun01:58
StormxYo, any problems/suggestions with putting WINE on ubuntu?01:58
XIIIok01:58
XIIIDetails: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)01:58
XIIICould not find 'realplay'01:59
XIIIthe same result Seveas01:59
zAo^:S where is the realplayer binary located? run full path01:59
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DreamHackerhello02:00
Seveashmm02:00
SeveasXIII, this is a quick hack: sudo ln -s /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay /usr/bin/realplay02:00
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zAo^hehe02:01
joakimCan you btw install windows media player plugin for Firefox on Ubuntu? :D02:01
lukaswe we we02:01
lukaslol02:01
XIIIThe filename "realplay.bin" indicates that this file is of type "unknown". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "executable". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.02:01
XIIIDo not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "executable", then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file.02:01
lukasthe admin is awake :/02:01
Seveasjoakim, you gave a sick mind :)02:01
joakimI know I know :)02:01
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DreamHackeranyone knows how to find and install vidix driver for mplayer?02:02
SeveasXIII, hmm, something fishy is going on there, probably due to the failed install attempts earlier.02:02
joakimCome on please, I want windows messenger! :D02:02
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XIIIroot@nihon:/home/xiii # sudo ln -s /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay /usr/bin/realplay02:02
XIIIroot@nihon:/home/xiii #02:02
wezzer-I have a question concerning this web page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer02:02
SeveasXIII, in a terminal you type: realplay02:02
DreamHackerjoakim, use GAIM!!02:02
Seveaswhat does that give you?02:02
wezzer-this command won't work - sudo apt-get install bmp-skins02:02
wezzer-there is no package named bmp-skins02:02
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joakimGAIM doesnt allow me to watch nekkid chicks on cam :D02:03
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DreamHackerHAHA02:03
DreamHackerLOL02:03
Seveaswezzer-, there is no such package02:03
XIIISeveas it freezes02:03
priestjoakim: install the CVS of amsn02:03
wezzer-Seveas: then how can I install skins to beep media player?02:06
zAo^wezzer-, use the xmms-skins and move them...02:06
XIIIroot@nihon:/home/xiii # realplay02:06
XIIIroot@nihon:/home/xiii #02:06
wezzer-okay, thanks02:06
Nameeaterapt-cache search bmp | grep skin bmp-skins - Skins for XMMS02:06
Seveaswezzer-, no idea really...02:06
jowiwezzer-, you need to add extra repositories02:06
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dv__can debian and ubuntu packages be mixed freely?02:06
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SeveasNameeater, hmm02:06
tegansometimes, but not really dv__02:06
djp!dma02:06
dv__that is, if there is no ubuntu package, trying it with debian mirrors02:06
Nameeatermaybe its in backports or what ever its called :)02:06
tegandepends on the deps of that package02:06
SeveasNameeater, paste the output of apt-cache show bmp-skins in a private chat please :)02:06
DreamHackerdebian packages use to work fine for me02:06
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Dr_MelectausCan anyone help me, when ever i try to play an audio file in music playrt it saying cant use playback02:06
wezzer-jowi: which repositories?02:06
Seveasdv__, Ubuntu has most of debian and more02:06
teganDreamHacker: depends on whether you are pulling from deb stable, or deb testing02:06
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haydenis there any mac os x dock app like the starterbar? i dont like it much02:06
tegandeb testing/unstable is getting further and further away from  hoary02:06
jowiwezzer-, hoary backports universe02:06
DreamHackerokej02:06
dv__also some problematic stuff like mplayer, libdvdcss .... ?02:06
jowi!backports02:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted02:06
teganand if it's in deb stable, then it's probably in hoary anyway :)02:06
NameeaterSeveas: http://pastebin.com/32989402:06
wezzer-jowi: thanks02:06
Seveasdv__, mplayer is in multiverse, dvdcss in hoary-extras02:06
jowiFilename: dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/bmp-skins_0.1-2~5.04ubp1_all.deb02:06
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{cYanide}hi er02:06
jowiwezzer-, you are welcome02:06
{cYanide}im trying to use my usb modem, (its detected n all fine, eaglestat says its all ok) but when i startadsl.. nothing happens02:06
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cyborgplz help. permission denied when accessing /mnt/win. fstab contains user,uid='myuid'. why is permission denied?02:07
dv__you set the permissions for /mnt/win?02:07
DreamHackeranyone knows how to find and install the vidix driver for mplayer?02:07
zAo^cyborg, what is the umask?02:07
dv__and chown'ed the user?02:07
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cyborgmy umask is 002202:07
Seveasdv__, these things have no effect on windows things :)02:07
zAo^cyborg, the mount-umask?02:07
dv__but I cant mount a windows partition on a dir owned by root02:08
dv__if I am a regular user02:08
Seveascyborg, put your /etc/fstab, the output of mount and ls -al /mnt on the pastebin please02:08
mjrdv__, you can, if it's allowed in /etc/fstab02:08
dv__with user and users?02:08
lukashmm02:08
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jowi{cYanide}, try to install pppoeconf to configure your connection02:08
dv__didn't work regardless of these flags being present02:08
dv__and uid=1000 gid=100 was present too02:08
dv__still, no effect02:09
lukasthere is NO firewall on ubuntu by default ??02:09
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Seveaslukas: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.02:09
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{cYanide}ok jowi, er is there a commandline way to install , or just via the package installer?02:09
mjrlukas, the firewall is not on by default because it doesn't need to; ubuntu doesn't listen to the network by default either02:09
lukasSeveas:  wher do i se if firestarter is upp ?02:09
cyborg/dev/hda1       /mnt/win0       ntfs    ro,noauto,user,uid=0022 0       002:10
Seveaslukas, if you install it, it is on02:10
CarlFKtrying to use nfs, i get: "mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused" (no firewall)02:10
jowi{cYanide}, sudo apt-get install pppoeconfig02:10
{cYanide}sweet tnx02:10
Seveascyborg, ehrm02:10
lukasSeveas:  ahha02:10
Seveasyou put a umask in your uid02:10
Seveascyborg, that will never work :)02:10
lukashmm02:10
cyborgSeveas?02:10
Seveascyborg, remove that line from /etc/fstab please02:10
Seveascyborg: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically02:10
lukasps aux | grep firestarter02:10
Seveaslukas, nope02:11
lukasbhha02:11
lukaswrong02:11
Seveaslukas, iptables -L02:11
Seveas:)02:11
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Seveasthe firestarter program does not have to run for the firewall to be active02:11
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benkong2could someone go here and tell me why I get a directory listing instead of the apache test page? http://www.bfdavis.org02:11
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kemikSeveas:  there really should be a better explanation of that http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab program, i dont think many newbies knows what a bash script is02:11
Seveaskemik, it has instructions in it :)02:12
haydenis there any mac os x dock app like the starterbar? i dont like it much02:12
lukasACCEPT     icmp --  anywhere             anywhere02:12
lukasACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere02:12
Whistlerkemik http://www.bfdavis.org/apache2-default/index.html.en02:12
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kemikSeveas:  :)02:12
Seveasbenkong2, maybe you have disabled the variable html stuff in the apache config02:12
jowibenkong2, you do not have an index.html02:12
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kemikWhistler:  you've successfully installed Apache ;)02:12
lukasSeveas:  is everyting of or what ?02:13
Seveasjowi, there does not need to be such a file :)02:13
Seveaslukas, if that is the complete output, you did not install firestarter yet :)02:13
Dr_MelectausHow do i re-install Music player02:13
benkong2Seveas; I noticed that there is a line in apache alias that says disabled for ubuntu. I uncommented that line maybe I should not have02:13
jowiSeveas, but it makes life easier  :-)02:13
Seveasbenkong2, which line was that?02:13
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Seveasbenkong2, afaik that line is harmless02:13
priesti have change theme on my gdm, and change theme in my user, but still i have a brown background between gdm and when gnome starts up, how do i get rid of it?02:14
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benkong2let me check...does the index.html.en not work02:14
Seveasjowi, not in this case, apache should pick index.html.$something too02:14
Dr_Melectauscould someone tell me how i re-install Music player02:14
Seveasit's something in the config02:14
SeveasDr_Melectaus, which one?02:14
jowiSeveas, oh alright02:14
Dr_MelectausSeveas, the only one i have on ubuntu :-\02:15
Dr_Melectausthe default one02:15
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haydenrename index.html.en to index.html02:15
SeveasDr_Melectaus, what's its name? :)02:15
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lukasbhha02:15
Seveas(I've used UBuntu for too long to forget which is the default music player :))02:16
lukasunstabel server02:16
benkong2in sites-available/default it says "RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/" commented out for ubuntu02:16
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sJaMRhytmbox Seveas02:16
avanspronsenDr_Melectaus: MPlayer?02:16
jowior totem02:16
lukasSeveas: is there a log for the ssh connections in to my local server02:16
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Dr_Melectausavan, Music player02:16
Seveaslukas, /var/log/auth* should say something02:17
Dr_Melectausapps>sound and vid>Music Player02:17
Seveasbenkong2, better leave that off indeed :)02:17
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cloudrCan anybody help me get my micro working under gstreamer-properties (output filter) see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5456002:17
SeveasDr_Melectaus, sudo apt-get install --reinstall rhythmbox02:17
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cloudrhi Casagrande02:18
Chaotic_Shieldmorning everyone02:18
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Dr_MelectausSeveas, its called Music Player though02:18
SeveasDr_Melectaus, true, but its real name is rhythmbox :)02:18
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benkong2Seveas; ok02:18
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SeveasChaotic_Shield, stop spreading toxic fumes please ;)02:18
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lukashmm02:19
lukasi dont find any conections in i think02:19
Chaotic_ShieldSure Seveas, as long as you stop highlighting me.02:19
Seveas;)02:19
Chaotic_Shield:-P02:19
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CarlFKhow do I set what IP/interfase nfs-server binds to?02:20
lukas___hmma02:20
speedy73#nemerle02:20
lukas___whats so unstabel02:20
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Groovpg02:20
cloudrCarlFK: vi /etc/exports02:20
CarlFKcloudr - um... that is what can mount - not what nic the server uses02:21
Seveasspeedy73, stop spamming02:21
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cloudrCarlFK: I see what you mean, then no idea mate.02:21
CarlFKrats.02:21
CarlFKbut thanks for trying ;)02:21
lukashmma02:21
lukasi dont get this :/02:22
lukaswell well02:22
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lukasbbl going home02:23
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jowicloudr, open a terminal: 'killall esd' + gnome -> system -> prefs -> sound: untick "enable server at start" + multimedia-system-selector: select default sink = alsa02:23
Seveasjowi, bad idea02:24
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Seveasall applications ubuntu comes with use esd02:24
wijnandis it possible to create keyboard shortcuts for other tasks than the ones already listed in System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts?02:24
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Seveasso you would have to change a lot02:24
Seveaswijnand, ye02:24
Seveass02:24
StormxHey, when im running commands, what is a substitude for a whitespace?02:24
Seveasin gconf-editor02:24
BTJusticeI got a little problem with GRUB.  I made a GRUB floppy boot disk.  When I try to boot from it, all it says is GRUB and nothing else and doesn't do anything.  I can't see any files on it in Windows XP (which I am on now).  What should I do so I can boot into my newly installed Kubuntu?02:24
Seveaswijnand, somewhere in the /apps/metacity key02:25
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crashdhmm02:25
wijnandSeveas: ok thanks02:25
cloudrjowi: I will give that a try. Are you available in MSN or ICQ in case it doesn't work or needs further tweaking?02:25
jowiSeveas, esd crashes the most useful programs out there. Skype for example does not work with it enabled.02:25
crashdhow do you configure acpi/power on ubuntu02:25
lllmanulllBTJustice, does it say something like "grub>" ?02:25
crashdi want to set the actions for power button and screen down02:25
lllmanulllBTJustice, You probably want to learn a few basic Grub commands ?02:25
teganwho made metacity the default anyway02:25
StormxWhat do you use for a white space when running commands?02:25
jowicloudr, I only use skype or you can find me in here02:25
teganit refuses to let my applications use shortcut keys02:26
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SeveasStormx, '\ '02:26
Seveaswithout ''02:26
cloudrjowi: ok, give me a minute02:26
StormxOK thanks02:26
lllmanulllBTJustice, But the simplest way would probably be to use a Knoppix or an Ubuntu boot cd to install Grub on your MBR02:26
BTJusticelllmanulll:  I stick the floppy in, turn computer on, it read floppy, and all it says is GRUB with a cursor after it.  It does nothing else.  It asks me nothing.02:26
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Stormxbah, it no workig02:27
BTJusticeI can't install GRUB to MBR.  WIndows XP is on a SATA hard drive (C:)02:27
Stormxfixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW stub!02:27
SeveasStormx, what is the command you are trying?02:27
humehi... what do I need to put in a .xinitrc-file to make startx start with xfce4?02:27
cloudrjowi: still the same Failed to contruct test pipeline for 'ALSA02:27
lllmanulllBTJustice, Yup, that looks like Grub all right :) It is like a mini-shell, there are commands you can run02:27
cloudrjowi: there was no esd process anyway02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, I see... I don't know a lot about this...02:32
jowicloudr, how about esdd?02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, Serial-ATA hard drive don't have MBR ?02:32
BTJusticelllmanulll:  It won;t ask me right off the bat if I want to boot Ubuntu?02:32
jowicloudr, alsa will fail if esd is running02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, Well it should02:32
cloudrjowi: no esdd either02:32
BTJusticelllmanulll:  It won't right to its MBR for some reason.02:32
CarlFKcloudr - found it:  /etc/default/portmap: # By default, listen only on the loopback interface; OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"02:32
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lllmanulllBTJustice, But you probably need to install it on the MBR of your first drive...02:32
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{cYanide}hi again, er i tried ppoeconf but still the same problem02:32
BTJusticeProbably because the only way I can install Linux on my computer is to run "boot: linux pci-noacpi"02:32
{cYanide}i took 2 screenshots thou02:32
cloudrCarlFK: oh yes the portmap, had forgotten about that02:32
yuachtis it safe to upgrade to breezy atm?02:32
{cYanide}http://legion.gibbering.net/cyanidenights/modem1.png  , http://legion.gibbering.net/cyanidenights/modem2.png02:32
Seveasyuacht, no02:32
yuachtSeveas, what's broken?02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, Sorry, I don't know much more than that02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, You can still try to learn a few basic GRUB commands02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, Should be able to find this with Google02:32
cyborgSeveas, 10x. winmac_fstab didn't run well, but reading it helped.02:32
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cloudrjowi: OSS also fails not just ALSA, but only for the micro. For the input sink both alsa and oss work02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, But I find it weird it couldn't be installed onto the MBR02:32
jowicloudr, so alsa as an input now work?02:32
lllmanulllBTJustice, I guess Google might help you about this ("MBR" "SATA", etc.)02:32
{cYanide}er it wouldnt install to the mbr here at first02:32
Seveasyuacht, X still is not completely cured02:32
{cYanide}i had to delete the partition and repartition02:32
{cYanide}then it did02:32
Seveascyborg, what was the problem?02:32
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cloudrjowi: no, no change. ALSA works as output. Nothing works as input. but /dev/dsp2 is my micro and works02:32
cloudrjowi: cat < dev/dsp2 > /dev/dsp gets my voice on the speakers02:32
jowicloudr, the commandline tool alsamixer has an option to change mic. have you tried that?02:32
tristiais really ubuntu shipping is free..>?02:32
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dazjorzHello :D02:33
{cYanide}is ubuntu shipping really free (fixed)02:33
dazjorzYes02:33
sdefresneyes02:33
dazjorzits really free02:33
cloudrjowi: no I haven't02:33
yuachtSeveas, how much trouble is that for me? What doesn't work?02:33
jowicloudr, alsamixer has that option but gnome-volume-control (for the alsa device) does not. might be worth a try02:33
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dazjorzGuys, guess what02:34
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dazjorzi've installed Ubuntu02:34
Seveasyuacht, I don't know the details. It's fairly complete but you can easily get problems02:34
AudioMoveim a bit new to sudo, and everytime i open an admin x app it asks for password and its fails. I searched and i am a member of the admin group and that group is in the sudoers file. The only thing i noticed od is that theirs also a group name as my username they wouldnt be conflicting by any chance?02:34
dazjorzand it works ;-D02:34
kemikdazjorz:  great :)02:34
Seveasdazjorz, nice02:34
Whistleri wanna resize my ubuntu partition so i should unmount it first?02:34
dazjorzi expected a lot more errors02:34
dazjorzgenerally because its Linux xP02:34
dazjorz:P02:34
SeveasWhistler, yup02:34
dazjorzand i've installed the server version of Ubuntu on my server before02:34
cloudrjowi: how do i get alsamixer to change the micro to dev/dsp2 ?02:34
gilligan_Whistler, u won't be able to unless u unmount it anyway02:34
dazjorzand hundreds of errors02:34
dazjorzits a shitty machine02:34
dazjorzbut here, it just worked. Just, without any error, only a few warnings that were automatically fixed later02:35
SeveasAudioMove, are you typing in *your* password and not the root password?02:35
Whistlerwhen i wanna to unmount it i get an device busy erro02:35
dazjorzfor example: the font config wasn't found and it installed the program 'fontconfig'02:35
SeveasWhistler, you can't unmount your root partition :)02:35
gilligan_Whistler, well if its your root partition thats no suprise02:35
dazjorzI never saw Windows do that02:35
dazjorz!! ^^02:35
ubotuI don't know, dazjorz02:35
jowicloudr, just go to the <Mic Select> and press arrow-up or arrow-down02:35
Whistlerso how do i resize it?02:35
tristiaubuntu have how many disc..?02:35
Seveascyborg, ?02:35
Seveastristia, One02:35
yuachtSeveas, u dun mind me asking in ubuntu-devel right?02:35
sdefresnetristia : one02:35
Seveasyuacht, of course not :)02:36
yuacht=)02:36
AudioMoveyea i know that Seveas02:36
tristiathank..02:36
dazjorztristia: One and you can order it for free !!02:36
cloudrjowi: it is strange. alsamixer shows just one control throtle PCM02:36
Seveastristia, they actually ship 2: a live cd and an install cd02:36
gilligan_Whistler, you could boot from some live CD/recovery CD02:36
SeveasAudioMove, try in a terminal: sudo echo foo02:36
cloudrjowi: in another PC I have shows loads of controls02:36
dazjorzSeveas: You were saying something about a plugin for X-Chat02:36
Whistlerum does ubuntu live cd have gparted?02:36
sdefresnedepends on the arch, i didn't get a live CD for PPC02:36
SeveasAudioMove, does that give an error?02:36
jowicloudr, i have either Mic1 or Mic2 to choose from since my laptop's got a builtin mic as well02:36
jowicloudr, ouch!02:36
Seveasdazjorz, when..?02:36
StormxHey Seveas, I've downloaded the xdialog package (.deb) is it possible to run synaptic to install it?02:36
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Whistleror some tool for partitioning?02:36
Seveassdefresne, that was warty :)02:37
tristiahow can i know they is ship live cd or install cd..?02:37
Whistler dazjorz gaim02:37
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DVSoftwareStormx, dpkg -i02:37
Seveassdefresne, since hoary there are live cd's for all archs02:37
dazjorzSeveas: Dunno, maybe it wasn't you. But I heard something about a script or something02:37
dazjorzWhistler: OK, Thanks02:37
Seveastristia, you get both02:37
Whistlertristia you get 2 i one package02:37
tristiaoh..02:37
Whistlern02:37
jowicloudr, then you have bigger problems. i have no idea how to fix that02:37
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cyborgSeveas, i didn't use uid right. winmac_fstab showed me the right way. Btw, winmac_fstab failed because /etc/fstab already contained line with hda1.02:38
SeveasStormx, please install that via apt and do NOT install manually doenloaded .debs!02:38
sdefresneok, didn't order the last version (apt-get upgrade)02:38
cloudrjowi: ok, thanks for trying02:38
jowicloudr, does the "Card: " at the top of alsamixer say the correct device btw?02:38
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Whistlerdoes livecd have some tool for partitioning?02:38
Seveascyborg, that 'failure' is by design :)02:38
DVSoftwarecfdisk i guess02:38
StormxSeveas, DVSoftware way seemed to work just like synaptic does it!02:38
Seveasit would be wring to have 2 fstab lines for the same drive02:38
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HirukoHi02:38
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StormxHey02:40
HirukoI just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I can get to gdm. When I try to logon it crashes02:40
cloudrjowi: no it shows my USB speaker (which works fine)02:40
SeveasHiruko, 'crashes'?02:40
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Hiruko>_<02:40
peter2how to mount a kingston USB memorystick ?02:40
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Seveasbe a bit more descriptive please...02:40
HirukoThe system stops responding02:40
luminerdanyone know how to tell what windows driver I need for my ethernet?  downloading so I don't end up with a driverless system...02:40
Seveaspeter2, plug it in :)02:40
HirukoI cannot move the mouse do anything with the keyboard etc02:40
peter2did it02:40
SeveasHiruko, hmm...02:40
dazjorzBy the way, I have problems with USB devices02:40
peter2nothing shows02:40
Bateauwhere can i download and read about how to install a c compiler?02:40
peter2when rebooting02:40
cloudrjowi: I did alsamixer -c2 and that showst he right thing02:40
StormxSeveas: How do I use apt to download and install specific packages?02:40
jowicloudr, alsamixer -c 202:40
gilligan_Whistler, for partitioning most prolly - for *altering* partitions, i.e parted not sure - check knoppix or so.. also go and check the manuals of parted i'm sure there are hints on how to use it to alter your root partition02:40
peter2icon shows but it is not mounted02:40
dazjorzI started the installation and i couldn't use my keyboard, so I plugged in some converter02:40
jowicloudr, ah, you found it02:40
DVSoftwareBateau, apt-get install build-essential02:40
SeveasBateau, sudo aptitude install build-essential02:40
{cYanide}so er anymore ideas on why my usb modem is active but wont connect?02:40
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cloudrjowi: yep, but only Auto Gain as an option here02:40
dazjorzNow, I want to use my keyboard just as USB, should I just connect it or should I install something first?02:40
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SeveasStormx, open synaptic, search for what you want and mark it for installation02:40
StormxSeveas: Its not in the list.02:40
SeveasStormx, if you can't find something: enable universe02:40
Seveasxdialog is definitely there02:41
StormxOK, How do I do that.02:41
HirukoAny clue why it woudl do that?02:41
StormxIt wasn't for me.02:41
SeveasStormx, dod you ever manually add a repository?02:41
cloudrjowi: what about OSS? I would settle for OSS input support02:41
StormxSeveas, yeah I did.02:41
HirukoI am quite sure it's the window manager because the same thing happened in Debian once when i ran unstable02:41
HirukoI just don't know how to fix it02:41
StormxTo get wine.02:41
SeveasHiruko, not at all i'm afraid. If no one else answers ask in the forums or on the mailinglist02:41
jowicloudr, i have no experience with oss i'm afraid. your guess is as good as mine02:41
peter2seveas.... no luck02:41
cloudrjowi: The only way my micro works is if something lets me specify /dev/dsp2 as the micro source02:41
SeveasStormx, please paste your sources.list on the pastebin02:41
HirukoACtually02:41
HirukoDoes ubuntu use X.org?02:42
Whistlerso is it possible to move home folder to new partition then?02:42
SeveasHiruko, yes02:42
StormxPastebin.........02:42
HirukoThat's the problem then02:42
Seveas!pastebin02:42
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood02:42
StormxSorry for being so neive.02:42
Seveasit's ok :)02:42
dazjorzI need help with gaim ..?02:42
Seveasbetter to be naive and polite than expert and rude :)02:42
Stormx=) Im still quite a beginner at all this.02:42
DVSoftwareHiruko, if gdm works, that's no problem02:42
Hiruko:p02:42
HirukoI'm rather sure it is02:42
dazjorzNvm.02:42
HirukoBecause I tried to switch to x.org with debian stable02:43
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HirukoWhen I put xfree86 back on it worked fine02:43
Hirukounstable*02:43
StormxSeveas, what am I pasting?02:43
Seveaspeter2, does dmesg show anything when it's plugged in?02:43
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Stormxwait02:43
Stormxsorry02:43
SeveasStormx, the file /etc/apt/sources.list02:43
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Bateauhmm DVSoftware... i need GLIB 1.2.2 to :x02:43
SeveasBateau, what are you trying to compile?02:43
BateauXMMS02:43
Bateau:)02:43
SeveasBateau, don't02:43
Whistlerhow do i take screenshot only of program02:43
Bateauwhy not?02:43
Whistler?02:43
Seveasit's in the repositories02:43
Chaotic_Shieldjust apt-get it02:43
Chaotic_Shieldyeah02:44
Chaotic_Shieldapt-get install xmms02:44
peter2sorry what is dmesg ?02:44
SeveaswhisKy, [alt] [prt scr] 02:44
Bateauoh02:44
subterrificHiruko: what kind of laptop?02:44
DVSoftwareBateau, just apt it02:44
Seveaspeter2, just type the command :)02:44
Bateaui didnt know that...02:44
joakimAnother quick question, how do I get and install mp3 codecs for Music player and Totem?02:44
Chaotic_Shield!mp302:44
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support02:44
Whistlerhow do i take screenshot only of program not whole thing?02:44
teganalt-prtscr02:44
Chaotic_Shieldjoakim, check out the link ubotu just gave02:44
SeveasWhistler, , [alt] [prt scr] 02:44
DVSoftware!mp302:44
joakimI will, thanks02:44
dazjorzwhooohooo GAIM Works02:44
Chaotic_ShieldWhistler, hold [Alt]  then hit [Print Screen] 02:44
Bateauand i need to install, so that i can play divx and xvid to. how do i do that?02:45
DVSoftwareahh... damn lag02:45
peter2shows a lot of lines...02:45
DVSoftwareBateau, www.mplayerhq.hu02:45
DVSoftwareand download codecs02:45
dazjorzMessage could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:02:45
jowicloudr, i'm looking in to it.02:45
Bateauoki02:45
dazjorzGAIM: Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:02:45
topylii wish gaim worked better with irc. i keep reverting to real irc clients02:45
Seveaspeter2, paste the last 30 lines of it on the pastebin02:45
kemiktopyli:  cant beat xchat ;)02:46
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dazjorzMessage could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:02:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:12:f0:0d:94:46:08:00 SRC=195.214.1 35.172 DST=195.214.135.191 LEN=235 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=21083 PROTO=UDP  SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=21502:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:12:f0:0d:94:46:08:00 SRC=195.214.1 35.172 DST=195.214.135.191 LEN=235 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=21084 PROTO=UDP  SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=21502:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=29154 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46855 DPT=3128 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=002:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=27206 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46854 DPT=80 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=002:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=56343 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46856 DPT=3777 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=002:46
dazjorzwooooooooo02:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=41768 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46857 DPT=3802 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=002:46
dazjorzstop it02:46
Chaotic_Shieldkemik, mIRC + wine beats XChat02:46
cloudrjowi: thanks a lot02:46
dazjorzdarn02:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=10422 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46858 DPT=6588 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=002:46
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crashdlols02:46
peter2Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=27207 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46854 DPT=80 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=002:46
dazjorzPeter202:46
dazjorzstop it02:46
DVSoftwarepeter2, use pastebin damn02:46
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Chaotic_ShieldSeveas!02:46
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dazjorzdont fucking do that02:46
dazjorzits very irritating02:46
Seveaspeter2, MORON02:46
kemikChaotic_Shield:  i've found xchat pretty nice. but sure, mirc is a bit better yes02:46
dazjorzAgreed02:47
Chaotic_Shieldheh02:47
kemiksweet, pasting his tcpdump :)02:47
Chaotic_Shieldrofl02:47
Chaotic_Shieldyeah02:47
StormxSeveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/32991902:47
Seveaspeter2, things like this are very good if you don't want to get help02:47
kemik!tell peter2 about pastebin02:47
Seveasso guess what, you don't get help02:47
joakimYou guys can't be serious that mIRC is better than xchat? :)02:47
Chaotic_Shieldhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:47
Chaotic_ShieldmIRC > XChat.02:47
kemikjoakim:  sure can ;)02:47
tswanyone know of a excel like application for shell?02:48
joakimGah02:48
kemikmIRC <!> Xchat02:48
joakimxchat > mIRC02:48
subterrificirssi > xchat > mIRC02:48
djpi prefer xchat over mirc02:48
tswirssi beats xchat+mirc02:48
kemiksubterrific:  oh comeon.. irssi :/02:48
Chaotic_ShieldmIRC and irssi02:48
housetiermy desktop > your desktop02:48
dazjorzyahoo, it works02:48
kemikhousetier:  my dick >> your dick02:48
dazjorzNow...02:48
Bubbling_Zombiegreen > red02:48
djperc is probably my favourite though02:48
joakimirssi is too low on interface :P02:48
subterrifickemik: excuse me screen + irssi02:48
housetier2 > 102:48
kemikblue > yellow02:48
dazjorzJoakim?02:49
dazjorzthats the fourth joakin02:49
joakimHeh02:49
SeveasStormx, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/97202:49
dazjorzthe fourth joakim in 1 week02:49
joakimIt is?02:49
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dazjorzYes02:49
Bateauhow do i unpack tar.bz2 files?02:49
kemiksubterrific:  naaawh :P tried irssi and hanging in ~20 channels?02:49
joakimI was on earlier though :)02:49
SeveasBateau, tar jxvf02:49
dazjorzYou're the same as joachim02:49
Bateauthnx :)02:49
SeveasBateau, tar jxvf foo.tar.bz202:49
kemiksubterrific:  and at least 10pm's02:49
joakimNo I'm not :(02:49
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subterrifickemik: doing it right now02:50
dazjorzUnless you wonderfully learned english, you're not the joakim I knew earlier xP02:50
dazjorzbecause that joakim only spoke Danish lol02:50
kemiksubterrific:  i think irssi is horrid when i have that many active channels/pm's02:50
subterrifickemik: and the best part is that no matter where i am, i ssh into my box and reattach the screen and i'm there02:50
HirukoIs there a default root password?02:50
Chaotic_Shieldno.02:50
HirukoI don't remember setting it in the setup >_<02:50
SeveasHiruko, no02:50
joakimI'm danish, but I don't speak danish in international channels :)02:50
dazjorz>.<02:50
Seveasby default there is no root password02:50
HirukoI was just allowed to set up a user02:50
Seveas!root02:50
uboturoot is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:51
HirukoOh so that's the default password ^_^02:51
dazjorzJoakim: Lol :P I don't believe you02:51
kemiksubterrific:  well, im using psybnc so i nomatter where i am i just fire up a ircclient and connect to my bnc ;)02:51
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SeveasHiruko, the root password is disabled02:51
subterrifickemik: that doesn't keep history02:51
joakimYou don't? Jeg kan da godt begynde at snakke dansk hvis det skal vre02:51
Hirukokk02:51
StormxSeveas: Type '@deb-src' is not known on line 39 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list02:51
HirukoSorry used to debian02:51
dazjorzI gtg02:51
dazjorzcya02:51
Stormxbai02:51
SeveasStormx, oops02:51
Stormxtypo?02:51
SeveasStormx, change the @ into an #02:51
StormxOK np02:51
kemiksubterrific:  i guess i could fix trafficlogging, but i dont want to ;) it saves my PMs, thats all i need :)02:51
joakimSee you dazjorz02:51
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StormxI'll go turn pacakges into packages, while i'm at it ;-)02:52
subterrifickemik: so xchat works for you, irssi works for me02:52
Chaotic_Shieldwhy don't you just eat yourself {cYanide}?02:52
kemiksubterrific:  yay! =)02:52
is_deado02:53
is_deaddidnt think of that02:53
kemikChaotic_Shield:  i was thinking the same thing :)02:53
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{cYanide}hey er02:53
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{cYanide}are there any log files i can look at to see why my modems not connecting?02:53
Seveas/var/log/messages02:53
Dr_MelectausCan somone help me, every time i try to open a tune in Music Player, it crashes and closes02:53
Seveas/var/log/kern.log02:53
pschulz01Greetings.. can anyone here deal with a Wiki/Launchpad account problem?02:53
Seveas/var/log/daemon02:53
Seveasetc :)02:54
StormxSeveas: Synaptic just gives me lots of errors on startup02:54
Dr_MelectausSometimes it will say "cant pause play  back" but more than likely it will crash02:54
SeveasStormx, that's ok02:54
Seveashit the reload button02:54
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HirukoIs there a way to add a user to sudo or is my default user already there02:54
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Seveasyour default user is in the admin group02:54
Seveaswhich is in the sudoers file02:55
StormxSeveas: Really? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/32992202:55
HirukoI need to install xfree02:55
HirukoIt says I need to be root >_<02:55
Chaotic_Shieldyeah02:55
Dr_MelectausPlease?02:55
crashdsudo to root then ;)02:55
SeveasStormx, perfectly normal02:55
Chaotic_Shieldjust type sudo <command>02:55
Seveashit the reload button02:55
Hirukooh alright02:55
HirukoThanks02:55
Chaotic_Shieldthen it'll ask you for your password.02:55
StormxSeveas: OK Then x.X02:55
KyralHiruko: XOrg should be installed already...02:55
HirukoI need xfree...02:56
Kyralwhy?02:56
Hirukox.org has an issue with my laptop for some reason02:56
Kyralah02:56
Kyralokay02:56
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vothis there a specific way to call mono when using wine ?02:58
Bateaubah, Mplayer took ages to compile :/ its still going on...02:58
{cYanide}http://legion.gibbering.net/pastebin/viewentry.php?id=61302:58
peterretiefhey all, how do I get to play a dvd, ?02:58
SeveasBateau, that is also in the repositories...02:58
Bateauok?02:59
Seveaspeterretief, totem dvd://02:59
{cYanide}any ideas whats up for the modem from that paste?02:59
Bateauhow?02:59
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HirukoArg02:59
Seveasbateau: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:59
Seveasand bam, mplayer-custom is in the repositories02:59
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kemikwhy doesnt ubuntu use videolan as standard mediaplayer ?!02:59
Bateaubah, ok. thanks Seveas03:00
yuachtSeveas, is there a wiki-page or anything else where i can check the current staus of X? i kinda wanna upg. to breezy =)03:00
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Kyralkemik if you want it you can apt-get it :D03:00
Kyralthats the best part about Linux, choices03:00
yuachtkemik, because it isn't well intergrated to gnome right...? and besides there's like 1000 media players, everyone thinks their favourite should be default :D03:00
DVSoftwareis composite extension loaded by default?03:00
HirukoSo ubuntu doesn't like xfree does it03:00
kemikKyral:  i know, but it should be standard instead of totem which is unusable ;)03:00
Kyralpersonally one of the first things I do is to uninstall Evolution and install Thunderbird03:01
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KyralTotem is usable03:01
yuachti myself think xine would be a nice default, works great03:01
Kyralwith the w32codecs and Totem-Xine03:01
DVSoftwaremplayer rulez03:01
kemikyuacht:  i just find videolan the simplest for beginners, since it supports all formats out of the box03:01
Kyralpersonally I lovee VLC03:01
kemiktotem is usable after aptg03:01
DVSoftwarei didn't tried videolan03:01
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kemikaptgetting alot of libs, not good when ubuntus goal is "usability"03:01
Kyralkemik, aptget w32codecs and totem-xine03:02
kemikDVSoftware:  videolan supports DVD-menus, mplayer doesnt afaik03:02
Kyralthat ain't a lot of libs :D03:02
kemikKyral:  two too many03:02
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yuachthmm... why isn't ubuntu shipped with all codecs by default, or is that coming to breezy?03:02
DVSoftwarekemik, i've used xine for dvd's03:03
Kyralto me half the fun of Linux is tweeking03:03
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Tomcat_yuacht: It's a grey legal area03:03
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Kyralyuacht, in a nutshell, the w32codecs package is illegal :P03:03
karlwrkkyral: you have wayyy to much time on your hands then03:03
Tomcat_yuacht: Most of the codecs have a license agreement that won't let you re-distribute them... some have patent problems, etc.03:03
karlwrkthe fun of linux is getting your work done in less time, so you can go outside and do real things03:03
yuachtargh03:03
Kyralkarlwrk, nope, I can go from a base Ubuntu install to my customized GNOME in two hours TOPS03:04
karlwrkwell, if half the fun is tweaking, then what do yo udo after that?03:04
kemikand im not arguing that i cant do it, just saying that ubuntu is all about user-friendliness etc, and fails miserably in this department ;)03:04
Kyraluse it :D03:04
yuachti think we all need a package like the gstreamer-plugins package, that installs ALL video-codecs03:04
Dr_MelectausCan somone help me, every time i try to open a tune in Music Player, it crashes and closes. or if it doesnt it will say "Cant pause playback" in an error box.03:04
Tomcat_karlwrk: You can never be done tweaking :D03:04
karlwrkbut with only half the fun ;)03:04
StormxBah03:04
Kyralkemik: Its better than Gentoo :D03:04
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kemikKyral:  but not as good as windows :P03:04
StormxI'm not gonna bother with WINE... I have no idea how to set it up03:04
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Tomcat_karlwrk: Freshmeat has about 100 new versions of apps and new apps per day. Enough to tweak :D03:04
Kyral!lart kemik03:04
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Stormx=O03:05
karlwrkTomcat_: sure, but do you need them? are they actually useful?03:05
kemikjust becuase ubuntu is "better tahn gentoo" we cant be satisfied03:05
StormxYou could have used that as a cup mat03:05
Kyralkemik, it was a pun :P03:05
Stormx*coaster03:05
Tomcat_karlwrk: Most aren't... but there's always a gem each week.03:05
kemikaight03:05
KyralI'm saying I get bored with complete out of the box functionality03:05
Kyralyes its nice03:05
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Seveaslol Kyral  :)03:06
Kyralbut I like to dive into the OS every once and a while :D03:06
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Seveastry breezy for some problems :)03:06
KyralNot that many problems...03:06
karlwrka gem each week? jesus you must have low standards03:06
crashdwhat's gonna be spanky new in breezy anyway ?03:06
DVSoftwarevideolan seems to be a nice player03:06
DVSoftwaregonna try it03:06
kemikKyral:  then gentoo is the distro of your choice ;P03:06
Kyralkemik: Hell no03:06
karlwrkor at least, the most diverse needs I've ever heard of03:06
KyralLike I said I dive into my OS03:06
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kemikDVSoftware:  it's the best player ive tried, and i've tried alot of them03:06
Tomcat_karlwrk: Why that? There's always somebody with a good idea that he puts into an application and puts onto freshmeat... it's not all boring stuff. :)03:06
Kyraland then I do something stupid and have to reinstall :D03:06
jtan325anyone know how to unpack rar files in ubuntu?03:06
jtan325!rar03:06
ubotuWish i knew, jtan32503:06
Kyralunrar03:07
crashdinstall unrar03:07
karlwrkhow many of these weekyl gems do you actually use in a months time?03:07
crashdor use unrar03:07
Tomcat_jtan325: Install "unrar-nonfree" package.03:07
crashdif it comes with it03:07
kemikunrar-nonfree03:07
DVSoftwarejtan325, go to rarlabs.com, download rar for linux03:07
Kyralsudo apt-get install rar unrar-nonfree03:07
DVSoftwarehm...03:07
DVSoftwareok03:07
DVSoftware:D03:07
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kemik;)03:07
DVSoftwarei did it my way03:07
DVSoftware:D03:07
KyralAptGet owns :D03:07
humehi, i've runt into a major problem, I cannot log into x anymore (suddenly). xsession-error-file says "X server already running on display :0"03:07
kemikapt-cache search <keyword> is quite useful03:07
Tomcat_karlwrk: I don't... I look at them, find them interesting, and then throw them away... I'm a software guy so I like to test stuff and explore new ideas... it doesn't mean it has to be useful. :)03:07
Seveashume, reboot03:08
humeanyone got advice? I use gdm for loggin in03:08
karlwrkor more constructively, Tomcat_ what are one or two of the gem's that you've seen recently?03:08
humeSeveas, i did03:08
kemikor delete /var/log/Xlog.003:08
DVSoftwareKyral, last time i installed unrar from apt, it didn't worked for all rar files03:08
Casagrandecloudr: testing03:08
DVSoftwaredunno03:08
KyralI do enjoy making my own Backports from Breezy though03:08
kemikif that was the correct path.. :)03:08
KyralDVSoftware, unrar-nonfree should work03:08
kemikhume:  make sure it's not running, and then delete the X lockfile03:08
DVSoftwareahhh03:08
jtan325Tomcat_, DVSoftware thanks03:08
DVSoftwarenp03:08
MezKyral: if they build straight from breezy, and you think it's worth putting into the offical repo, feel free to mailthe mailing list and suggest them03:08
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jtan325Tomcat_, does this mean it's at trial version or something?03:08
kemikDVSoftware:  mmh just "unrar" doesnt work. something weird03:09
KyralMez its called the Backports :D03:09
kemikjtan325:  no, only closed source03:09
DVSoftwarejtan325, no03:09
Tomcat_karlwrk: http://freshmeat.net/projects/synergy2/ (network map analyzer) & http://freshmeat.net/projects/gravit/ (good-looking gravity simulator)03:09
MezKyral, I know... I'm a backports developer03:09
Kyraloyah...03:09
Kyralyou are ;D03:09
MezKyral, hence i'm saying if you're backporting thing03:09
Tomcat_Anyway, I need to go study. :)03:09
KyralSorry I just woke up :D03:09
DVSoftwarehmm03:09
MezKyral, and they work straight from breezy sources,03:09
MezKyral, let me know03:09
humekemik, what do i need to kill to be sure all is killed, exept gdm?03:10
jtan325wow sweet03:10
DVSoftwarevideolan does not exist in synaptic03:10
KyralXChat 2.4.4 works :D03:10
kemikhume:  id kill most stuff running from /usr/X11/bin or so03:10
MezKyral, we know - it's already backported03:10
DVSoftwarejust videolan-doc03:10
{cYanide}ahhar!03:10
KyralI was just about to ask that03:10
DVSoftwarewhat's wrong?03:10
{cYanide}i think my chaps / pap file is being overwritten03:10
{cYanide}so there is no username + pass03:11
kemikhume:  but really, try to delete the x-lockfile first and start X again03:11
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KyralI built my Bluefish from source...03:11
{cYanide}er why not a yellow fish03:11
{cYanide}or red.. cuz red is faster03:11
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humekemik, which lock-file is it?' Xlog.0 isnt there....03:11
cloudrsilly question about x-chat, anyway to get a sound played when somebody mentions my nick?03:12
DVSoftwarehm... i can't install videolan with apt-get???03:12
Bubbling_ZombieDVSoftware : vlc ?03:12
DVSoftwarehm03:12
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DVSoftwarewhat silly name03:13
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chrissturmDVSoftware, thats what the app is called. videolan is the project03:13
kemikhume:  i dont remember the exact name/path, i'll have to google03:14
Casagrandecloudr: testing03:14
tristiavideolan player.>?03:14
kemikvlc = videolan client, vls= videolan server03:14
tristiavlc.>?03:14
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Dr_MelectausFor xmms media player/beep media player, can i apt-get some equalizer presets?03:16
crimsun_not that I know of.03:17
zzyberim installing ubuntu on my 83 year old grandmother and i wounder, she is rather new to computers but at the age of 82 she did do some microsoft exams for os and office. Now im installing ubuntu for her and i wounder if someone have tips on how to make here as comfortable as possible with this new os.03:17
DVSoftwareDr_Melectaus, i don't think so03:17
Dr_MelectausOk03:17
kemikhume:  remove /tmp/.X0-lock03:18
DVSoftwarequicker way would be to download winamp, install it with wine and take it's presets03:18
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joakimzzyber, tell her that she can't really fuck it up :)03:18
joakimworked on my dad :)03:18
zzyberjoakim, already done03:18
Choubakazzyber: Put any relevant programs on the desktop03:18
joakimYeah03:18
joakimThat too03:18
humekemik, thx....)03:18
kemikhume:  http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages <-- and scrol down to Server is already active for display 003:18
kemikhume:  tell me if it works ;)03:18
DVSoftwarezzyber, you are kidding, right?03:18
humekemik, just a minute03:18
zzyberChoubaka, god idea, forgot that. She had all the icons she neded on her windows desktop03:19
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Choubakazzyber: And make sure the system can function without any maintenance03:19
zzyberDVSoftware, no not at all, im really proude of here, seh is also using msn :-)03:19
ChoubakaDoes she have an internet connection?03:19
Choubakaah, yes.03:19
Choubakabroadband?03:19
Choubaka:P03:19
zzyberChoubaka, the problem is that she has a ppp and i hope its possible to get everyting up when she starts firefox and down when firefox is closed03:20
Choubakazzyber: Hmm, dunno.03:20
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Yokaloshguys, i just installed ubuntu to my external usb hd and installed grub to mbr03:21
Yokaloshand now i get 'error 21' when booting03:21
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ketilknZzyber, isn`t application icons on the top bar a better idea than on the desktop?03:22
topylizzyber: there's a "linux dial-on-demand howto"03:22
majicI don't see a libapache2-mod-php5 package, I do see a php5-cgi package. Is there a php5 apache2 module package?03:22
spanglesontoasthow do I start sshd?03:22
topylizzyber: mini-howto really03:22
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SeveasYokalosh, then you can't boot from your USB disk...03:22
kemikspanglesontoast:  /etc/init.d/ssh restart03:22
equexwould the ati drivers for radeon work with k7 kernels?03:22
Seveasspanglesontoast, it's auto-started when you have it installed03:22
Yokaloshkemik: i cant boot at all03:22
kemikhume:  any luck?03:22
Choubakayes.03:22
Seveasspanglesontoast, sudo aptitude install openssh-server03:22
Seveas(that installs it)03:23
zzyberketilkn, hmm.......it gets so small nut maube i should expand the bar, that way the icons stay on the same place all the time.........i will try03:23
spanglesontoastah03:23
equexwas that for me Choubaka ?03:23
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spanglesontoasthow can I see if it's running?03:23
Choubakaequex: yes.03:23
kemikoh i thought he said "restart" ssh :)03:23
Yokaloshkemik: how can i reinstall grub from either by debian,yoper,ubuntu or knoppix disk?03:23
zzybertopyli, yes........its howtos for everything, i will dig into it03:23
Yokaloshi am in knoppix now03:23
Choubakaequex: Though hmm03:23
equexthanks :) i was having doubts wether i had to switch back to i38603:23
kemikYokalosh:  dont know03:23
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Choubakaequex: If you don't have precompiled drivers for the kernel, then you will have to install them.03:23
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equexbecause i cant get ati drivers working properly03:23
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cloudrcloudr: hi03:24
ketilknzzyber, Desktop icons gets hidden behind windows you know. You can but big icons on the bar as well. It seems I can`t remeber what the "bar" is accually called.03:24
equexChoubaka: i am just using ATI's general installer :/ no idea whats in there03:24
ketilknzzyber, and turn of virtual desktops. :D03:24
ketilknoff03:24
Chaotic_Shieldhmm03:24
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mash_how can I get systray for xchat ppc?03:25
zzyber83 years old on ubuntu........maybe that is a record. Im installing Ubuntu for her becouse i think its easy to use, no viruses, no spyware......What can be better for old people than a working computer03:25
Chaotic_Shieldis there a php5 apache module?03:25
Chaotic_Shieldin the repositories?03:25
Choubakazzyber: indeed03:25
Casagrandecloudr: testing03:25
rekazzyber: the fountain of youth :P03:25
ChoubakaUbuntu is the best Linux-based OS out there.03:25
topylizzyber: actually, it's called "diald howto"03:25
zzyberketilkn, god idea, away with the viruals. God ideas here.....03:25
SeveasChaotic_Shield, in a 3rd party repository03:25
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zzyber:-)03:25
ketilknChoubake: For what? How can one say that.03:26
Chaotic_ShieldSeveas, plz2tell where?03:26
YokaloshChoubaka: right now i would be disagreeing03:26
Choubakaketilkn: Well, For what it does.03:26
ChoubakaThat is, being a good desktop OS03:26
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ChoubakaYou can put it on a server too, though, but I'd use debian then.03:27
SeveasChaotic_Shield: PHP 5 modules can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter/php5 hoary03:27
ketilknI went: RedHat -> SuSE -> Debian -> OS X -> Debian -> Ubuntu in the last 8 years. Ubuntu is great. But you cannot say that it is the best linux based OS.03:27
SeveasChaotic_Shield: PHP 5 modules can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter php5 hoary03:27
blakaminzzyber: might have to get my grandmother of xp... she's 84, but I have to get my audio working first ;P03:27
Seveas(last one is correct)03:27
zzybergot to go.........thanks for all ideas. /by03:27
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ketilknPeople like different things.03:28
Choubakaketilkn: Well, yeah03:28
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ketilkn:)03:28
Chaotic_Shieldthanks Seveas03:28
ChoubakaSome people even like Gentoo. :|03:28
Seveasketilkn, sure, for people who like crappy unstable stuff Ubuntu sucks ;)03:28
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SeveasBut you're completely right; Ubuntu however is the best solution for the majority03:28
Seveasit's stable, releases often and has security support03:29
humekemik, tried now, but it seemed there was no /tmp/.X0-lock file....rebooting annyway03:29
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Choubakaketilkn: I did Windows XP -> Debian -> Ubuntu -> OS X on Desktop03:29
ketilknSevas: People who like to watch gcc compile stuff is better of with Gentoo for instance.03:29
Seveasketilkn, indeed03:29
ketilknChoubaka, So you left us for os x?03:30
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dv__re03:30
ChoubakaAnd Debian -> FreeBSD -> Debian -> Ubuntu (It's a family computer) on my router03:30
Choubakaketilkn: well, I bought a powerbook.03:30
mash_how can I get systray for xchat ppc?03:30
spanglesontoast * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 03:31
spanglesontoast?03:31
ketilknChoubaka, I prefer Ubuntu over OS X for working. I gave my Powerbook to my Girlfriend and bought a Fujistu Siemens, P701003:31
kemikhume:  tried the "startx --2" ?03:31
spanglesontoastah03:31
spanglesontoastit was running03:31
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spanglesontoastlol03:31
spanglesontoastsoz03:31
ChoubakaAnd OS X is magnificent. Even though Ubuntu is good, I doubt it's able to use this powerbook to its full capacity.03:31
ketilknChoubaka, OS X Terminal is painfull.03:31
Choubakaketilkn: yes.03:31
Choubakaketilkn: I use iTerm :P03:31
ketilknI miss iTunes though. I keep a Mac Mini with OS X at home.03:32
Chaotic_ShieldSeveas, I have a problem with that repository.03:32
Chaotic_Shieldhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.org/97403:32
ketilknI am wondering if amaroK can replace iTunes.03:32
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humekemik, seems i can log in as anthoer user.....03:33
deathllamahey, is anyone awake there?03:33
ChoubakaMy future computer acquisitions will probably include one POC to run w2k and one App, and a cheap PC desktop to run Ubuntu on.03:33
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ChoubakaIf I can avoid it, I'll never run windows on the desktop again :P03:33
deathllamai'm downloading ubuntu right now, i have a question about it, regarding wireless networking.03:34
ketilknChoubaka, If you hold out for half a year or so there will be Minis running Ubuntu, OS X, and this Windows you speak of.03:34
kemikhume:  weird.. you did a "killall X" ?03:34
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kemikhume:  well gotta run.. look at that X.org FAQ ..03:34
Choubakaketilkn: Well, I won't be buying a computer that soon.03:34
humekemik, thx...:) i'll have a look03:34
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kemiknp03:34
djpChoubaka: no stinking windows here my friend... apart from the ones you look out of! ;)03:34
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{cYanide}hey ok i got my usb modem working:O (on ubuntu now)03:34
Choubakadjp: :)03:35
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{cYanide}it was the chap-secrets file, had to enter my user/pass03:35
ChoubakaI wouldn't run windows either if it wasn't for this one app that's such a pain to get to work in wine.03:35
{cYanide}but one question03:35
Chaotic_ShieldSeveas?03:35
{cYanide}is there a way i can toggle an icon in my taskbar so i can see im connected?03:35
ketilknChoubaka, Which one is that?03:35
rekadeathllama: ask your question. if someone knows, they'll answer.03:35
djpoh sorry Choubaka, what app was that?03:35
Choubakaketilkn: winny.03:35
Choubaka:03:35
Choubaka:P*03:36
SeveasChaotic_Shield, hit reload when synaptic says that03:36
Seveasor do apt-get update03:36
reka{cYanide}: right-click on panel > add to panel > network monitor03:36
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ChoubakaBesides, having windows just in case might be good if I ever need to run some Win-only apps.03:36
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SeveasChaotic_Shield, and also, I think you forgot a part03:37
SeveasChaotic_Shield: PHP 5 modules can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter php5 hoary03:37
ketilknChoubaka, Freenet p2p thing?03:37
Chaotic_Shieldthat's the line I put in my sources.list03:37
Choubakaketilkn: it's a Japanese p2p program.03:37
Chaotic_Shieldgot it03:37
Chaotic_Shieldworks now, thanks Seveas03:37
ChoubakaDoesn't really work on wine because it need japanese. :P03:37
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djpchoubaka: p2p file sharing app from Japan right03:38
ketilknYes. Searcing for winny gave my lots of strange characters..03:38
MrMaDSeNI neeed help... Please03:38
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ChoubakaThere are some instruction for getting winny to work on linux.03:38
{cYanide}and one more question,  i get an error msg cannot find IGL when i try and use one of my programming apps03:38
SeveasMrMaDSeN, look at the topic: just dik03:38
{cYanide}but ive installed all dev packs03:38
Seveasdik?!?03:38
ChoubakaThey're just in Japanese, and I'm not that good at reading it yet.03:38
SeveasMrMaDSeN, look at the topic: just ask03:39
Seveasman I need coffee...03:39
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MrMaDSeNNo sound on my onboard intel 915G motherboard.... cant seem to find any solutions on intels hp.. what do I do ?03:39
yuachthmm how do i make incoming mails from a certain adress always end up in a certain folder using thunderbird?03:40
blakaminMrMadsen: add me to your "no sound" collection03:40
blakaminyuacht: filter03:40
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MrMaDSeNmessage filters   yuacht03:41
topyliMrMaDSeN: buy a $5 sound blaster or something?03:41
{cYanide}er wait03:41
{cYanide}i have an intel inbuilt thing03:41
ketilknyuacht, Tools -> message filters03:41
{cYanide}and i get sound03:41
yuachtthanks all03:41
MrMaDSeNtopyli: would be solution yes03:41
SeveasMrMaDSeN, does /dev/dsp exist?03:42
humeis there a default way to set parameters for synaptics touchpad in ubuntu? i'd need to be able to disable clicks...03:42
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Seveashume, you can set it in xorg.conf03:43
calchow do you make rpc listen to an external port so that nfs will work on ubuntu?03:43
MrMaDSeNSeveas: no it dont03:43
SeveasMrMaDSeN, type: lsmod | grep snd03:44
Seveasand paste the putput in a private chat or on the pastebin03:44
humeSeveas, then i'd need to restart X to make changes take effect, right?03:44
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Seveashume, correct03:44
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MrMaDSeNModule                  Size  Used by03:47
MrMaDSeNnls_utf8                2176  103:47
MrMaDSeNnls_cp437               5888  103:47
MrMaDSeNvfat                   12928  103:47
MrMaDSeNfat                    37792  1 vfat03:47
{cYanide}erm what would be the app-get thing (cant remember the line :/) to install a pack03:47
MrMaDSeNproc_intf               4100  003:47
MrMaDSeNfreq_table              4100  003:47
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SeveasMrMaDSeN, NOT in the channel....03:47
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Seveas{cYanide}, pack of what?03:48
topyli{cYanide}: apt-get install <package>03:48
hume{cYanide}, apt-get install <package name>?03:48
{cYanide}erm sdl03:49
{cYanide}1.2 dev03:49
Seveassudo aptitude install libsdl1.2-dev03:49
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{cYanide}erm couldnt find pack03:50
StormxSeveas, do you just answer questions all day? x.X03:50
Seveas!info libsdl1.2-dev03:50
ubotulibsdl1.2-dev: (Simple DirectMedia Layer development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-3ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 3440 kB03:50
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Seveas!policy libsdl1.2-dev03:50
ubotuSeveas: I don't know, could you explain it?03:51
Seveas!lart himself03:51
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blakaminseveas: got a second?03:55
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Seveasblakamin, if you have a question, just ask :)03:56
blakamini have an audio problem and dont want to end up like mrmadsen;P03:56
blakamincan i post you a link?03:56
Seveaspost it in here, there are others too that can help :)03:57
blakaminhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5459303:57
{cYanide}how can i install libsdl1.2-dev?03:57
{cYanide}its not like03:57
{cYanide}"here"03:57
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spanglesontoasthey03:57
spanglesontoastdoes rdesktop need any special settings03:58
Seveasblakamin, do you have a /dev/dsp? does lsmod | grep snd show anything? Which soundchip do you have according to lspci?03:58
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jowispanglesontoast, are you talking about tsclient or vino-server?03:59
spanglesontoastvino-server03:59
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raphaHi all!03:59
Seveas{cYanide}, is your Ubuntu machine connected to the internet?03:59
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jowispanglesontoast, well, you can allow client to connect but not control your desktop. you can set password as well03:59
spanglesontoasti thought you could allow them to control the desktop?04:00
jowispanglesontoast, yes you can04:00
spanglesontoastoh04:00
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Positronwhen i try 'modprobe ndiswrapper', i get a 'FATAL : Module ndiswrapper not found' ; what must i do ?04:00
jowispanglesontoast, but you can also allow them to see but not touch04:00
Chaotic_ShieldPositron, install ndiswrapper?04:00
jowispanglesontoast, run vino-preferences04:00
raphaCan somebody help me? When "cp breezy-install-i386.iso breezy.iso; md5sum breezy-install-i386.iso breezy.iso" returns two different MD5 sums, what is going wrong?04:01
spanglesontoastyea I configured it so they can access and touch, but basically I cannot connect using any windows clients04:01
spanglesontoastsuch as realvnc04:01
spanglesontoastand tightvnc04:01
SeveasPositron, sudo aptitude install linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd 32bit cpu)04:01
blakaminSeveas: no /dev/dsp... its a cs4281 and gets detected but tries for oss even tho alsa says it has it04:01
jowispanglesontoast, you need to set realvnc to connect as VNC and not RDP04:01
spanglesontoastoh04:01
PositronSeveas : got ubuntu x86_6404:01
spanglesontoastdoes it use rdp by default?04:01
SeveasPositron, no ndiswrapper for you then04:01
jowispanglesontoast, it supports both as far as i can remember04:01
PositronChaotic_Sheild > yeah04:01
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Seveasndiswrapper+windows drivers work only on 32bit Ubuntu04:02
PositronSeveas : yet, i can load the drivers, 'driver present, hardware present' , weird...04:02
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Seveasblakamin, sudo modprobe snd-cs428104:02
SeveasPositron, hmm, that is weird04:03
blakaminbrb04:03
spanglesontoastso04:03
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spanglesontoastwhat option should I use on vnc viewer?04:03
spanglesontoastit doesn't say anything about rdp or vnc04:03
SeveasPositron, have you installed the restricted-modules package?04:03
PositronSeavas > yeah, i read of someone who made some changes on the ndiswrapper package, seems to work, 'till modprobe04:03
jowispanglesontoast, it should.04:03
SeveasPositron, maybe compiling ndiswrapper yourself works...04:04
spanglesontoastwhat's protocol version 3.3?04:04
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PositronSeveas > yeah, but i dont understand at which level the stuff fails, when i get this module not found04:05
jowispanglesontoast, and in "server" you should put "ip.address:0" i think. it was a while ago i used it (a couple of years)04:05
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SeveasPositron, there is simply no ndiswrapper.ko on your system04:05
Positronwonder if it's not a prob with the driver, or something like that04:05
PositronSeveas > so, how is it possible that it detects my hardware ...04:06
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spanglesontoastnope the zero didn't work04:06
spanglesontoastis there a config file or something?04:06
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SeveasPositron, that's not part of the kernel module :)04:07
jowispanglesontoast, you should check realvnc.com04:07
spanglesontoastyea that's what I got jowi04:07
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dinanyone know what qmgr is??04:07
blakaminSeveas: no response... anything I try now says "alsa default in use"04:08
jowispanglesontoast, try "ip.add.ress:5600"04:08
spanglesontoastaho k04:08
karlwrkdin: you have more context than we do04:08
karlwrkquiet mobile graphing radio04:08
Seveasblakamin, you have a /dev/dsp now?04:08
dinkarlwrk, thx04:08
spanglesontoastsays connection timed out04:08
karlwrkquick monkeys get running04:08
spanglesontoastdoes vino run on port 560004:09
spanglesontoast?04:09
jowispanglesontoast, it should.04:09
karlwrkqueen mother goes ruling04:09
spanglesontoastah04:09
spanglesontoastcan I change it to 5900?04:09
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blakaminSeveas: No... nothing changed... ?????04:10
Dr_Willisi think that vnc in general starts on port 5900 for display # :0 then goes up by 1 for each new vnc display04:10
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jowispanglesontoast, ah no you're right. it uses 5900 as standard04:10
spanglesontoasthmm04:10
jowispanglesontoast, silly me04:10
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znhI made a new directory on /, but how to make it that normal users can write data in that directory?04:11
spanglesontoasterm04:11
rekaok, ive forgotten, how does one change the tab size in vi/m?04:11
spanglesontoastso does vino run on 5600 and normal vnc runs on 590004:11
apokryphosznh: change the permissions either by selecting properties, or by chmodding04:11
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karlwrkshiftwidth/tabstop04:11
apokryphosznh: see man chmod04:11
dg-jfkhelp: Anyone who knows anything about problems with printing out scaned documents?04:12
{cYanide}any ideas on fixing a  missing IGL error?04:12
znhapokryphos: hm ofc04:12
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rekakarlwrk: cheers04:12
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rekakarlwrk: er, are they equivalent?04:12
karlwrkno :)04:12
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karlwrk:help shiftwidth and :help tabstop and :help expandtab for more info04:13
apokryphosznh: chmod -R 777 /somedirectory  -- for example, for it to be accessible to everyone.04:13
jowispanglesontoast, nope. vino and normal vnc runs on 5900. BUT vino-server only starts when a user logs in to gnome so only port 5900 is in use. for a "normal" vnc server like tightvnc the server is started for each screen (5901, 5902 etc)04:13
spanglesontoasthmmm04:13
apokryphosznh: 775 for the group only; and they can read/write in it.04:13
spanglesontoastwell I do have my router forwarded to it04:13
znhapokryphos: I know, but that's not really what I am searching for, I just want to make 'znh' as the default owner instead of root04:13
spanglesontoastand I heard ubuntu doesn't come with a firewall04:13
spanglesontoastso i'm guessing something odd is going on04:13
apokryphosznh: chown znh:znh /somedirectory04:13
rekakarlwrk: right you are.  thanks again. :)04:13
znhspanglesontoast: linux doesn't really need a firewall :-)04:14
karlwrkshock horror! no firewall! what on earth will I do!04:14
znhapokryphos: oh yes that was it! - thanks04:14
spanglesontoasthow do I check to see if it's running?04:14
znhspanglesontoast: there are log files in ~/.vnc04:14
spanglesontoastwheres that?04:15
znh-.-04:15
znhjust do cd ~/.vnc04:15
znh~ stands for the home directory04:16
znh(equal to $HOME)04:16
dazjorzBack04:16
dazjorz:D04:16
znhwb :)04:16
spanglesontoastyep04:16
dazjorzty04:16
spanglesontoastit ain't there04:16
dazjorzwhat ?04:16
znhwhat isn't there?04:16
dazjorzhey erm04:16
spanglesontoastthat file/dir04:16
dazjorznvm.04:16
dazjorzlol04:17
dazjorz~/.vnc ?04:17
spanglesontoastyep it ain't there04:17
znhas what user did you run a vncserver?04:17
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spanglesontoastit's called vino-server04:17
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znhoh nvm then.. don't know thatone04:17
spanglesontoastit comes with the os04:17
spanglesontoastcalled remote desktop04:17
spanglesontoastor rdesktop04:17
crashdaye04:18
crashdteh rdp04:18
znhteh leetisch breezah talkz0r04:18
spanglesontoasthow do I access it04:18
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crashdhehe04:18
crashdteh for the win04:18
znhspanglesontoast: I think vnc is easier..04:18
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spanglesontoastI'm not on my machine04:19
spanglesontoastI'm at a mates04:19
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drcodewhat I need to do in .vnc/xstartup so xfce will load?04:19
znhah, and now you want to access it04:19
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drcodefrom vncserver?04:19
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znhdrcode: what about exec xfce04:19
spanglesontoasti could install it04:19
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drcodelet me try it04:20
MarianituHI04:20
MarianituHi04:20
Chris_Tuckerwhats the dpkg command for xorg config again?04:20
drcodeits xstartup or Xstartup?04:20
Chris_Tuckeri need to write it down this time =X04:20
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topyliChris_Tucker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:20
Chris_Tuckerty04:21
znhdrcode: I bet it is xstartup04:21
drcodeit dosnt work04:21
drcodeI did exec xfce04:21
drcodebut still gnome is loading04:21
dazjorzLol04:22
dazjorznow I installed Linux on my own pc and...04:22
znhand..04:22
dazjorzI don't have anything to do. -.-'04:22
znh:-D04:22
dazjorzSomeone knows something funny to do ?04:22
znhyou have graphical acceleratoin?04:22
dazjorzAh yes I do04:22
dazjorzBrb...04:22
znh-_-04:22
dazjorzSomeone has a Linux PlayStation 2 emulator ?04:22
spanglesontoastno04:23
dazjorz:(04:23
spanglesontoastit doesn't exist04:23
dazjorzwhy not04:23
znhwhy don't you play Enemy-Territory04:23
spanglesontoastit doesn't.04:23
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drcodezhn:no luck04:23
spanglesontoasteither way04:24
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dazjorzi'll search google04:24
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dazjorzand if i can't find anything04:24
dazjorzi'll....i'lll....04:24
dazjorzuse WINE !!04:24
dazjorzHah04:24
znhoh he's getting evil04:24
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topylijust play some xgalaga :)04:24
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jowispanglesontoast, do you have the ubuntubox nearby?04:24
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Pega"The glxgears program will output an FPS (Frames Per Second) rating to the command line. If 3D acceleration is correctly enabled for your video card, then the reported FPS should be well over 500 FPS at the default window size. If the output shows less than 500 FPS then you should double check your 3D setup." How do I check my 3D setup?04:25
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spanglesontoasthow do I start daemons?04:26
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dbernar1spanglesontoast: for example?04:26
znhPega: what graphical card have you got?04:26
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spanglesontoasthttpd04:26
DevGetDoes it works to update to breezy now?04:26
dbernar1spanglesontoast: you have apache installed?04:26
Pegaznh, Radeon 9800 pro04:26
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dbernar1DevGet: /topic04:27
znhPega: fglrxinfo will give you information04:27
spanglesontoastya04:27
topyliDevGet: the upgrade will probably work ok. the system, however, is broken :)04:27
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rekaPega: glxinfo | grep rendering04:27
DevGetmk04:27
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Pegareka, direct rendering: No04:28
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Pega:(04:28
dbernar1spanglesontoast: did you try going to http://localhost in your browser?04:28
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PegaCan I change it somehow04:28
spanglesontoastnope cos it's not running04:28
rekaPega: then you don't have your 3d setup. :)04:28
rekaPega: have you installed drivers?04:28
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PegaOn ubuntu... avtually... propably not. :D04:28
rekaPega: easy way:04:28
PegaThanks for reminding04:28
reka!ati04:28
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:28
dbernar1spanglesontoast: did you try? casuse I think it is...04:29
rekaPega: if you want to use the official ati.com drivers, search the forums, there's a topic on it04:29
spanglesontoasthow would you know04:29
smlguys ... i am so close with my WLAN connection .. can anyone help in the last stage :)04:29
sml[23:55]  <jpatrick> last stage?04:29
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Pegaok, thanks reka and znh.04:29
dbernar1spanglesontoast: hows that work?04:29
rekaPega: be warned it's a little more fiddly and apparently, the performance gain isn't that big.04:30
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MrMaDSeNok... anyone know a good soundcard that works with linux ?04:30
spanglesontoasteither way how to get I get a normal daemon working04:30
spanglesontoastor running04:30
Dr_WillisMrMaDSeN,  the soundblaster AUdigys are good.04:30
spanglesontoastis there a way like service name start04:30
spanglesontoastetc04:30
Pegareka, ok. A bit is better than none anyways. :)04:30
Dr_WillisMrMaDSeN,  depends on your budget.  and what you are doing.04:30
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dbernar1/etc/init.d/***d start|restart|stop usually.04:31
rekaPega: i suggest following the link i posted.  if you're not happy with that performance, then try the official ati.com drivers.04:31
dbernar1I dont think apache works that way. just sudo apache restart should work, I think.04:31
reka*driver04:31
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MrMaDSeNDr_Willis: just mp3 and video.. nothing fance04:31
MrMaDSeNfancy even04:31
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dbernar1sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart04:31
dbernar1that works on debian.04:32
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Dr_WillisMrMaDSeN,  ive rarely had issues with the Audigy cards. they got then for around $40-60 for the loow end ones.. Not sure about the new LOW end 24bit cards -  they are a different chipset  i think.04:32
hadi57hello, i need to use arabic language in office any help?04:32
Pegareka, ok04:32
StormxHey pizazzs04:32
spanglesontoastah04:32
Yokaloshihow do i reinstall grub to mbr after the windows boot loader has taken over?04:32
spanglesontoastty04:32
spanglesontoastsudo /etc/init.d/apache restart04:32
spanglesontoastoops04:32
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spanglesontoastputty being a pain lol04:32
spanglesontoasterm it says apache not found04:33
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rekaYokaloshi: there's a wiki page on that04:33
jond3rdYokaloshi, use grub-install04:33
dbernar1hadi57: this is the only thing the wiki gives me when I search it. Maybe you can email thie guy referenced: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTeam?highlight=%28arabic%2904:33
rekacan't remember where though04:33
Pegareka, ehen I "sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver" it says that the packet fglrx-driver doesn't have installable option or sumthing.04:33
dbernar1spanglesontoast: try just sudo apache restart04:33
spanglesontoasti did04:34
dbernar1spanglesontoast: alternatively, you dont have t installed. sudo aptitude install apache, or apache2 to install it.04:34
dbernar1do you use apache, or apache2?04:34
hadi57thanks dbenarl04:34
spanglesontoasti used a cd install with the server option04:34
dbernar1hadi57: /msg ubotu nicktab04:34
spanglesontoastodd04:34
dbernar1spanglesontoast: ha. that does not install servers...04:34
rekaPega: what's the full error?04:34
rekaPega: the critical line at least04:35
Yokaloshijond3rd: so all i do is grub-install in the recovery console?04:35
hadi57i offer my help in translating the complete document as well04:35
Pegareka, you want me to copy the line? umm... it is in finnish...04:35
spanglesontoastoh04:35
dbernar1dbernar1: just a foundation onto which to build one. sudo aptitude install the version of apache you want.04:35
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dazjorzerm04:35
dazjorzback04:35
spanglesontoastso it only installing the normal stuff for a server04:35
dazjorzlets go search Google....04:35
spanglesontoastlike the kernel04:35
smlmy WLAN is so close yet so far :) should i give up & delete kubuntu and install ubuntu?04:35
rekaPega: er, try anyway04:35
drcodeis it ok if vncserver Xrealvnc :1 -desktop X (I want to run xfce) ?04:35
dazjorz" linux playstation 2 emulator"...04:35
drcodework greatg04:36
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drcodeI try ps2 emu pcsx204:36
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dazjorzdrcode ?04:36
Pega"E: Paketilla fglrx-driver ei ole asennettavaa valintaa" Would be sumthing like E: Packet fglrx-driver doesn't have installable option. :S04:36
dazjorzdrcode: pcsx2 is that a linux emulator for the play station 2 ?04:36
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Ok_CancelHi, I've bought a Compaq R4000 notebook, and ubuntu don't work fine, Some advice?04:36
PegaI guess i should change the whole linux to english. would be easier to get help04:36
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rekaYokaloshi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:37
smlOk_cancel .. what is the problem?04:37
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PegaYesterday I did it with some locals command, but it changed back to fiinnish again04:37
Keeganhi, I am trying to get ndiswrapper to work04:37
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Ok_Cancelit works slowly04:37
Ok_Canceltoo slow04:37
DarKEsThi people04:37
dazjorzhi04:37
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dbernar1spanglesontoast: dont quote me on all this. But, I am fairly sure there are no servers installed. You can always find out if something is installed by the letter that shows up beside a package name when you search for it using": aptitude search package, if there is an i beside the package name, it is installed. a p means you can install it, and a v means it is not a real package.04:37
smlthere is some good ndiswrapper info around04:37
DarKEsTI have one question04:37
Keeganwhen I call "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper", it returns the error:04:37
Ok_Cancelthis's my principal problem04:37
Keegan"Operation not permitted"04:37
rekaPega: not necessary.  can you 'apt-cache show' it?  you might need to enable universe/multiverse04:37
dazjorzYes, DarkEsT ?04:37
spanglesontoastah04:37
smlahh yess Keegan04:37
spanglesontoasti did try httpd04:37
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spanglesontoasti just thought it was odd04:38
smli had that!04:38
spanglesontoastthat's all the dvd version installs servers04:38
Keegansml: wat did u do?04:38
DarKEsTwhy is not aviable linux-image 2.6.12 on repository?04:38
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crimsunDarKEsT: linux-image-2.6.12* are only in Breezy04:38
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dv__Breezy?04:38
topyliDarKEsT: because hoary uses 2.6.10 :)04:38
DarKEsTBreezy?04:38
Pegareka, that command tols "E: no packets were found" or sumthing like that when translated. I think i have enabled those when i got the mp3 supports etc, but i'll check04:38
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rekaPega: hang on, are you on warty or hoary?04:39
DarKEsTi know only hoary04:39
dbernar1spanglesontoast: I think the diff between a server and a normal install is that a server install does not install a graphical user environment, like gnome, or such.04:39
Mejobloggshow do i connect to the internet on dialup ?04:39
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dbernar1Mejobloggs: very slowly;)04:39
Mejobloggshehe04:39
smlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper04:39
Tomcat_harsh :)04:39
Pegareka, hoary04:40
smlKeegan ... did u work through the procedures?04:40
rekaPega: you're doing the wrong instructions. :)04:40
spanglesontoastah04:40
DarKEsTcrimsun and, Can I upgrade to Breezy?04:40
Keegansml:I already printed that page, that is what I am trying nto do04:40
spanglesontoastfair enough04:40
Mejobloggsim looking for a little connect button04:40
topyliDarKEsT: distributions don't change software versions on stable releases04:40
crimsunDarKEsT: not recommended yet.04:40
rekaPega: you're looking at the warty ones.04:40
Pegareka, lol. :D Well, atleast a thing that is easy to fix. :)04:40
DarKEsTok if I understand Breezy aren't stable?04:40
KeeganI am having difficulties completing step #404:40
crimsunDarKEsT: it's getting there04:41
spanglesontoastwhich is better apache2 or apache?04:41
Pegareka, I see, a few lines lower seem to be hoary. :D04:41
rekaPega: yep :)04:41
Keegansml: any suggestions?04:41
rekaPega: always helps to read headings. :D04:41
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klaymwhat is the equivalent to Windows notepad on Ubuntu?04:42
Pegareka, yeah. yesterday I spent 3 full hours trying to figure out why the reposotories weren't being used: i forgot to check the boxes, tho I did everything else. I am no good with instructions.04:42
dbernar1spanglesontoast: hum...I use apache, just cause I use it. If you are not running a business or anything very important, I think there will be little to none difference on which you choose.04:42
rekaklaym: gedit is the default text editor04:42
Keeganklaym: Gedit04:42
dazjorzwtf ???04:42
dazjorzdazjorz is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.04:42
klaymok04:42
dazjorzwhat do i do ?04:42
DarKEsTok, and u when 2.6.12 is aviable for hoary?04:42
dazjorz:S04:42
DarKEsT*know04:42
dazjorzwhat the fuck is the sudoers file ...04:42
dazjorz:\04:42
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reka!root04:43
uboturumour has it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:43
smlKeegan .. not specifically ... the first time I had the error .. then i installed kubuntu which was fine, then went back to ubuntu and it worked this time!04:43
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rekadazjorz: go there04:43
dbernar1dazjorz: are you the admin on your computer?04:43
dazjorzyes04:43
dbernar1did you install the ubuntu?04:43
dazjorzofcourse04:43
hasswhat is : The package Tcl/Tk, version 8.3 ?? plz help04:43
Mejobloggsso, where do i find something so i can press a button to get it to connect to the internet over diaalup?04:43
dbernar1is this the same user youcreated on install?04:43
spanglesontoastah ok04:43
Keegansml: well, I have restarted it already a few times, and have not been able to get it to work04:43
dazjorzdbernarl: Yes04:43
rekaoh.  *that* bug.04:43
dbernar1dazjorz: /msg ubotu nicktab04:44
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Keegansml: I am dual-booting, that doesn't affect it does it?04:44
dbernar1dazjorz: that should work then. you should be a sudoer.04:44
rekasml: are you an SML programmer? :)04:44
Mejobloggsmeeh, no connect button, where is it04:44
dazjorztest04:44
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dbernar1dazjorz: what is the command you used that you got that error?04:44
dazjorzsudo mkdir /programs04:45
dazjorzasked me for password04:45
dazjorzand i filled in the good password, i think lol04:45
hasswhat is The package Tcl/Tk, version 8.3 ?? plz help04:45
dazjorzi don't seem to be in the sudoers file04:45
Keegandoes anyone else have any clues about ndiswrapper?04:45
dbernar1dazjorz: your password, off course. It would give you a diff error for a mistake in the password.04:45
dazjorzHass: Its a package, .04:45
black13is it possible to have a directory in read only file system linked to r/w file system04:45
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hasswhat package?04:45
dazjorzdbernarl: So, how do I put myself in the ' sudoers' file04:46
hassis it in ubuntu?04:46
dazjorzHass: Dah. The Tcl/Tk package04:46
spanglesontoastwhat do I type to get all the latest updates04:46
cianci10hi. does anyone know if there is a yahoo! messenger for ubuntu?04:46
spanglesontoastfor upgrades04:46
dazjorzHass: Yes, think so. Maybe apt-get install tcl/tk or something04:46
dbernar1dazjorz: /msg ubotu nicktab; sudo cat /etc/sudoers04:46
dazjorzciancil0: Gaim04:46
cianci10oh ok04:46
Keeganspanglesontoast: u could just use synaptic04:46
spanglesontoastkeegan funny enough not everyone uses a desktop04:47
Keeganokay, moving on. I am trying to get my mousepad to work04:47
dazjorzdbernarl: I did su, not sudo, because i can't use sudo :P But it works now, thanks04:47
dazjorzdbernarl: su ; vi sudoers ; exit04:48
dazjorzit works now04:48
Keeganbut I am not able to edit the xprg.conf to get it to work04:48
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Keegan*xorg.conf04:48
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rekaKeegan: how does one break a mousepad? :P04:48
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Keeganthe scrolling on the side doesn't work04:48
dbernar1spanglesontoast: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade everything. ALways check your sources.list for non ubuntu repos, even backports before you do that. keep only the official repos when upgrading.04:48
Keeganthe rest of it works fine04:49
topylidazjorz: it's not a very good idea to edit the sudoers file directly. use visudo04:49
dbernar1dazjorz: good work, weird you could edit sudoers directly, I thought you couldnt do that.04:49
topyliyou can but you shouldn't04:49
spanglesontoastah ok04:49
dazjorzWhy not ?04:49
dbernar1no idea.04:49
dazjorzOther question.04:49
spanglesontoasterm what key do i press to install stuff04:50
spanglesontoastusing aptitude04:50
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spanglesontoastcos it says g04:50
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dbernar1I never use aptitude that way.04:50
topylidazjorz: visudo checks that the file is correct before saving and closing04:50
spanglesontoastbut it doesn't work04:50
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dazjorzAh04:50
dbernar1sudo aptitude install pacjkageName is how I use it.04:50
dazjorzit said permission denied04:50
dazjorzbut well, I just copied the root line04:50
dazjorzbut changed root into dazjorz04:50
dazjorzso04:50
dbernar1ah04:50
dazjorzdazjorz ALL=(ALL) ALL04:50
dbernar1hah04:50
dazjorzand it works, so, .. :)04:50
dbernar1give your root privileges back, I think./04:51
dazjorzBut Erm other question04:51
dbernar1add a line like the one you haev..04:51
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dbernar1so you can have one line for the root, and one for you.04:51
dazjorzIn SuSE when I did 'dir' i had menus that showed a lot of things, under which the name, colored by file settings, line by line04:51
ubuntu_essai04:51
spanglesontoast...04:52
dazjorzbut if I do 'dir' in Ubuntu, I get an ugly list of just things after each other, not sorted in any way or beautifulled04:52
dazjorzhow do I get the old dir mode ?04:52
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dbernar1ls?04:52
Pegareka, Now it returns: "direct rendering: Yes". \o/. Thanks for everything. :)04:52
crashddazjorz: you need to do a ln to /usr/bin/dir04:52
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dbernar1ls -l?04:52
crashdwith the options you want04:52
crashdor create a 'dir' script04:52
ubuntu_bonjour  tous de VERSAILLES ;-) et bon surf04:52
dazjorzbash: /usr/bin/dir: No such file or directory04:52
crashdsome distros have 'dir' as a link to ease the windows crossover04:52
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rekaPega: no probs.  tried out something for performance?04:52
hungerHow do I use the restricted modules in breezy? modprobe claims to load them fine, but the HW does not work nor does lsmod list the module as loaded.04:52
dbernar1bonjour, ubuntu_. #ubuntu-fr speaks more french.04:53
dazjorzdir is linked to /bin/ls04:53
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dbernar1good, try ls -l04:53
dazjorz./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:53
topylidazjorz: ubuntu probably hasn't bothered to beautify dir because it's not even a real unix command :)04:53
dazjorzbrb04:53
Pegareka, not yet, but the there is some wierd command that brings 3 whjeels to my screen... found it somewhere, gnna check it agains oon04:53
dazjorzgotta go eating, i'll ask this question again later04:53
dbernar1I am hungry.04:53
dbernar1I always tell you guys that, just so you know.04:54
topylii am eating :)04:54
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crashddazjorz: you need to unlink and relink it with the options you require04:54
rekaPega: glxgears.  not really a good way of benchmarking though.  better to try out a game or something.04:54
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kestashow do you tell if a wireless pcmcia card works in linux?04:55
topyliits owner is amazed and insanely happy :)04:56
Chaotic_Shielddoes your computer work without an ethernet cable? then it works.04:56
dbernar1kestas, before you buy it, or once its inside your computer?04:56
Pegareka, I am just googling stuff about this cedega-thingie for games. Somewhere in it's requirements it mentioned that gear thingie and said that if everything is okay, you should get over 500. i got like 339 or so before these drivers.04:56
kestasdbernar1, before I buy it04:56
rekaPega: and after?04:56
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Pega2894.600 FPS04:56
Pega;)04:57
rekaPega: that's better isn't it? :)04:57
Keeganonce I get the sudo tar.gz, what do I do with it to edit the xorg.conf?04:57
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anacron326 from what?04:58
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Pegaooh, once got to 8110.200 FPS... A lot better. :) My maths was never pefect, but the way I see it, 8110 > 339, so I'm happy.04:58
Tomcat_I heard glxgears is not a good measurement.04:58
topylianacron: glxgears04:58
dbernar1kestas: well, there is a list of supported cards on the ndiswrapper page.04:58
anacronoh, i get something like 4000 fps04:58
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rekaTomcat_: it isn't04:58
topylianacron: i guess we don't have the same card :)04:58
anacrontopyli: well i know we don't04:59
raphaIs it possible to remotely lock the display over an SSH session?04:59
Tomcat_rapha: Good question :D04:59
spanglesontoastis there a go place to go to find out tunes to make with using beep?04:59
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Tomcat_rapha: You can start the VNC server, then lock it the way you always would... but I wonder if there's a command.04:59
dbernar1spanglesontoast: I dont understand that question.04:59
spanglesontoasttheres a program called04:59
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spanglesontoastbeep04:59
spanglesontoastthat allows you to make a beep sound outta your pc speaker05:00
wingosorry to bother, but does anyone know if xev can be had for breezy?05:00
spanglesontoastyou can change the pitch and speed05:00
dbernar1aha, so make some sound, ok, no, I dont know that.05:00
spanglesontoastwondering if theres any sites that you can use a shell script05:00
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topylithat must be one of the most annoying programs there is :)05:00
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topylialong with sl perhaps05:01
raphaTomcat_: well, the person using the PC would be able to prevent that, right? :-)05:01
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spanglesontoasti know05:01
Nernhey hey hey05:01
spanglesontoastjust it would be fun to make a script to make some sounds when I get an mail on the local machine05:01
om_can anyone point me to a decent guide to make my own deb/apt-gettable packages05:01
dbernar1yo05:01
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Tomcat_rapha: Yes.05:02
om_after instaling fluxbox from apt-get and realizing it wasn't up to date nor, complete I had to build from source05:02
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dbernar1http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/jcn/documentation/html-only/packaging.html and http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html om_05:02
dazjorzBack.05:02
dazjorzI'll repeat my question.05:03
dazjorz./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:03
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spanglesontoastbitchx is hard to see people typing etc05:03
dazjorz./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:03
topyliom_: the easy way: checkinstall. the correct way: consult the apt howto and the debian new maintainers' guide05:03
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topyliom_: the apt howto also tells you how to build the repository05:04
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raphaTomcat_: I've found something... xlockmore or xlockmore-gl05:05
om_topyli: thanks05:05
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=== dazjorz gets error: ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
dbernar1so, dazjorz did you install that then?05:06
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dazjorzdbernarl: gtk or libgtk are not found as modules on apt-get, the file libgtk-1.2.so.0 is not found by locate, ...05:06
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Joose^hi05:07
spanglesontoastit would just be cool to have something to allow me to put in lots of tunes05:07
dazjorzwhere should it be ?05:07
dbernar1dazjorz: aptitude search libgtk1.205:07
dbernar1tell me if it has an i to the left of it.05:07
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Chaotic_Shieldomg05:07
Chaotic_Shieldyes05:07
Chaotic_ShieldI love you mIRC05:07
Joose^i have a problem installing my modem... intel 537 ep05:07
^thehatsrule^lo spanglesontoast ;p05:07
dazjorzthanks, dbernarl05:07
dazjorzit doesn't have an i .05:08
dazjorzit says05:08
dazjorzp   <file>         :   <description>05:08
dazjorzfor 5 files05:08
dazjorzfiles are beginning with libgtk1.205:08
dazjorzi'll get them all, thanks05:08
Tomcat_rapha: Not installed on a default Install, right?05:08
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dbernar1i A libgtk1.2                                                             - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X?05:08
spanglesontoastyou hats05:09
dbernar1aha05:09
om_anyone else have probs with the fluxbox from repositories?05:09
dbernar1ok, sorry, misread05:09
spanglesontoastsoz was looking at my other terminal05:09
raphaTomcat_: nope05:09
Tomcat_rapha: Can you tell the prog what screen to lock?05:09
dazjorzno05:09
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dazjorzp   libgtk1.2                       - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X05:09
^thehatsrule^spanglesontoast: who else ;p05:09
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raphaTomcat_: doesn't matter though, I'm on the machine by SSH05:09
dv__is there a "native linux/unix widget set"?05:09
raphaTomcat_: let me see...05:09
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dv__like in Windows05:09
Joose^have someone here install driver of that modem?05:09
dv__there is one05:09
Tomcat_rapha: Because if you lock the current screen with SSH, it won't lock the one somebody else is using...05:09
dv__and in OSX there is cocoa05:09
raphaTomcat_: Well, you just need to export DISPLAY accordingly05:09
dbernar1ya, I misread, I think you should try jusdt installing that one for now...05:09
Seveasdv__, in Linux you can choose :)05:09
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topylidv__: we have several05:09
Tomcat_rapha: Alright then... should work. :)05:09
dazjorzdbernarl: I'm downloading.05:10
dv__so the actual reference toolkit would be motif, right?05:10
SeveasGTK2 is the default for gnome, Qt for KDE05:10
dazjorzI love apt-get05:10
topyliathena!05:10
spanglesontoastannoying my dad with beep05:10
mjrdv__, motif would not be an actual reference toolkit on linux systems05:10
raphaTomcat_: Does work. I just tried it.05:10
spanglesontoasthehe05:10
dv__i read once that motif is the native widgets toolkit for unix05:10
dv__now that sounds weird05:11
dv__:D05:11
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topylidv__: it used to be the toolkit for CDE and other such old stuff05:11
dbernar1weasnt motif the Java look and feel? cant remember now.05:11
karlwrkdv__: windows doesn't really have a native one either05:11
karlwrkit has a whole bunch of different ones too.05:11
PegaHow do I open ect/apt/sources.list so, that is write also, not read only. How in hell do they think I can edit a read only file? :S05:11
brokenboxso i boot up today and my gnome panel is all whack,  the volume and date are on the far left hand side instead of the right and it wont let me move them, any ideas?05:12
karlwrklook at how many different file open dialogs there are in windows05:12
PegaDo I need to switch to root or something?05:12
dv__karlwrk, it does, actually05:12
dbernar1Pega: use sudo.05:12
raphaTomcat_: My girl friend asked me to lock her screen after some time, so her little brother doesn't spend all day playing some game05:12
dv__you dont draw your own widgets usually05:12
Chaotic_ShieldPega, in a terminal, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
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dv__the system does this for you05:12
karlwrklinux just suffers from the fact that the differet toolkits look substatially different to each other05:12
Pegaok, ty05:12
Chaotic_Shieldyou need to be root in order to edit anything outside of your home directory.05:12
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karlwrkdv__: be very careful there, "the system" is very vague05:12
dv__yes05:12
Joose^how i can entry mode "root" on ubuntu?05:13
karlwrkthere's not just mfc05:13
dv__i dont mean mfc05:13
dv__I mean the raw win32 api05:13
rekakarlwrk: wouldn't that 'sufferance' be wanted behaviour?05:13
karlwrkright,05:13
dv__and there *are* UI functions05:13
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raphaIs there another BitTorrent tracker for the Breezy Colony 2 CD, or just the one from cdimage.ubuntulinux.org? Because there's no seeders left for that one :-/05:13
Tomcat_rapha: :D05:13
dv__which every app uses05:13
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dbernar1Joose^: visit wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:13
dv__well, almost every app05:13
karlwrkbullshit05:13
dv__some cross-platform apps draw their own apps, which looks very ugly05:13
dv__because it doesnt fit with the rest05:14
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mjrwas there a way to give kernel parameters on the live cd?05:14
karlwrkmost people use the prebuilt widgets that come with their dev environment, which might be written in raw win3205:14
karlwrkbut that's just like on linux05:14
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karlwrkyou can use the widgets from wx, or from gtk, or from motif, or from qt, or wherever05:14
rommerwhen firefox opens it goes to university of minnesotas web page even though i have my home page set as something else, any ideas bout this?05:15
sproingiethe looks can be made more or less the same, but the feel is radically different05:15
sproingiei have both gtk and qt using plastik, but i'll never make their dialogs feel equivalent05:15
dv__yes, and fltk/gtk/qt/motif/athena/fox all draw things their way05:15
topylidv__: on linux you can get a nice, chaotic desktop by using motif, qt and gtk apps, along with emacs and other old athena-based X apps :)05:15
rekarommer: [1]  checked preferences? [2]  how are you launching it?05:15
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rekaactually, disregard [1] . :)05:16
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rekayou already answered it05:16
Chaotic_Shieldno highlight, kthx.05:16
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dazjorzErm05:17
dazjorzGuys05:17
rommerreka, i have starterbar gdesklet which i just drag n dropped the icon from applications->internet in gnome menu to05:17
dazjorzsomeone knows pcsx2 ?05:17
dazjorzit says05:17
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dazjorz"PCSX2 needs to be configured"05:17
dazjorzand then05:17
dazjorz"Could not open the plugins/ directory"05:17
dazjorz2 times05:17
dazjorzand then some strange screen05:17
dbernar1is that a package name, pcsx2?05:17
dazjorzits a progra05:17
dazjorzprogram*05:17
rekarommer: check what command the starter icon actually calls05:17
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dazjorzLOL05:18
dazjorzthere is a plugins directory05:18
dazjorzbut it says "could not open the Plugins directory"05:18
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dazjorzit works now05:18
dazjorzjust the Bios ln -s05:18
dazjorzstupid programmers05:19
topyliit's locked. press the kick button before trying to loot05:19
rommerreka, firefox %u05:19
rekarommer: remove the %u05:19
rommeryea i tried05:19
dazjorzwait05:19
rommerill try again05:19
dazjorzthere is no bios dir05:19
dabaRdazjorz: more likely that the distro specific stuff does not allow it to be installed as they used a diff distro.05:20
rommerreka, hmm that seemed to work, b4 when i took the %u away i couldnt even run firefox05:20
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spanglesontoasthow do i do a command that doesn't close when i close the terminal05:21
luminerdI'm going to kill something.........05:21
luminerdI finally got the mouse working05:21
spanglesontoastwould it be a shell script05:21
spanglesontoast?05:21
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luminerdnow, without explination, it NO LONGER WORKS.05:21
rekarommer: righto then.  i can't actually remember what the %u does thouhg. :-/05:21
raphaIs there another BitTorrent tracker for the Breezy Colony 2 CD, or just the one from cdimage.ubuntulinux.org? Because there's no seeders left for that one :-/05:21
luminerdI can't use Ubuntu if it's going to do this.05:21
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luminerdwhat do I do?05:22
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luminerdI don't understand, the mouse was working, with these exact settings, and now it doesn't05:22
dabaRplug it out and back in.05:22
rommerreka, by the look of it, it was trying to go to the site %u, and if you just type a word in the address bar then push enter it searches google (or whatever search thing you use) and university of minnesota must be the top hit for %u lol05:22
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dabaRspanglesontoast: I dont understand your question again05:22
luminerddabaR, I can NOT do that twice a day every day.05:23
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luminerdI need a better fix than that05:23
spanglesontoastwell i want to run a command05:23
mgcrossHi all05:23
spanglesontoastbut when i close the terminal it ends05:23
luminerdotherwise I will throw away my ubuntu disk and never consider using it again05:23
spanglesontoastit want it to carry on05:23
dabaRluminerd: does that fix it?05:23
spanglesontoast*I05:23
rekarommer: oh, ok then.  at least it wasn't some weird site. :)05:23
luminerddabaR, yes, but only temporarily05:23
dabaRluminerd: I have the same thing. Microsoft mousE?05:23
rommeryea05:23
vader1102lunimard: does it help if you boot with it in?05:23
topyli luminerd: o05:24
luminerddabaR, sysgration05:24
luminerdtopyli, eh?05:24
dabaRspanglesontoast: if the command does not return to a prompt right after you run it, I dont think there is a way to do what you are asking, but, then again, I just may not know of it,.05:24
luminerdvader1102, that's the thing that fixes it05:24
topyliluminerd: slipped :) i was going to suggest another mouse :)05:24
vader1102hmmmmmm05:24
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spanglesontoastusing beep05:24
luminerdbut it unfixed itself randomly05:24
rommeranyone know of a mac os x dock app that is better than starterbar?05:24
luminerdtopyli, have tried05:24
spanglesontoastand i want it to stay on05:24
topylihrm05:25
dabaRluminerd: dunno, I have the same problem with my Microsoft mouse when I boot windows, or sometimes when I boot ubuntu/debian. It is not a all the time thing, tho,05:25
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vader1102lunimard: are you using a laptop by chance with a touchpad?05:26
luminerdvader1102, I'm using one, but that's not the machine in question05:26
mgcrossI'm trying to run need for speed underground (I bought it) with cedega, when I try to change the keybindings using the game front end, I can't get it to accept input. The game just sits there. Any idea where the config file for the keybindings might be found?05:26
dabaRspanglesontoast: add a launcher for it?05:26
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spanglesontoasti'm in a ssh05:26
rekarommer: probably not the best place to ask. :)05:26
vader1102hmmm ok, just going by process of elimination05:26
spanglesontoastanyways seeya soon05:26
mgcrossHEEEEELP!!!05:26
spanglesontoastgoing back home05:26
dabaRcya05:26
vader1102linimard: have you tried a different mouse?05:26
luminerddabaR, so what do you do to fix it?  just unplug and replug every time?05:26
rommerreka, nah didnt think so05:27
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Evilhello05:27
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Evilhow can we reinstall french keyboard layout please05:27
luminerddang it!05:27
vader1102luninard: I am using a logitch and have no probs05:27
mgcrossplease...05:27
luminerdunplugging did not work this time!!!!!05:27
mgcrosshelp...05:27
luminerdalright that's it05:27
luminerdscrew ubuntu05:27
dazjorzpcsx2 ??05:27
luminerdit won't work05:27
dazjorzany pcsx2 users here ?05:27
luminerdit's a broken OS.05:27
luminerda useless OS.05:27
jowiEvil, you want the keyboard layout for a specific user ?05:28
mgcrossI know it's not a serious problem ....05:28
dabaRluminerd: yes, sometimes even a couple of times before it works. But, as I said, it is not very often that it happens, not twice a day, or anything. Once in a few days, I leave it sitting, and I cxome back, and reboot into windows, and it will do it...not more than once or twice a week.05:28
luminerdI spent 15 hours trying to configure this thing05:28
vader1102linimard: try a diff mouse05:28
djpluminerd: for you maybe... but for many others a wonderful thing...05:28
mgcrossbut my wife keeps beating me05:28
luminerddabaR, this keeps happening to me, very often05:28
Bubbling_Zombieubuntu isn't an os, ubuntu is a linux distro ffs >_<05:28
dabaRluminerd: ok, but no need to diss ubuntu, it works here...05:28
luminerddabaR, but I can't do this.  20 systems operated by complete n00bs cannot handle it.05:28
dabaRluminerd: I agree.05:28
StormxBubbling_Zombie: That makes it an OS, you l33t f00l05:29
luminerddabaR, it's ubuntu's falt.  I know that for a fact, the mouse worked fine under plain debian05:29
Eviljowi i want back my french layout but i can't find it05:29
jowiEvil, I have a french install for ubuntu but uses a swedish keyboard in my session by adding "setxkbmap se" to ~/.xinitrc05:29
jowiEvil,05:29
luminerdunfortunately nothing else worked under debian05:29
jowiEvil, oh.05:29
sproingiehmm, tradeoffs tradeoffs05:29
dabaRhaha.05:29
dabaRluminerd: good luck, stick around, someone may know a fix.05:29
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dabaRWere all neqwbies here now, pretty much.05:29
StormxWhat is the problem?05:29
sproingieluminerd: you rolling out ubuntu for a 20 person workgroup?05:29
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tombshi ppl05:29
sproingieluminerd: what hardware platform?05:29
luminerdsproingie, huh?05:29
StormxHeya05:29
luminerdsproingie, uuh, emachine05:30
mgcrossso noone cares that she's beating me???05:30
StormxWhat's the problem? >_>05:30
luminerdsproingie, oh, amd05:30
sproingieluminerd: [08:28]  <luminerd> dabaR, but I can't do this. 20 systems operated by complete n00bs cannot handle i05:30
luminerdStormx, mouse does not move in X.05:30
jowiEvil, you can set it in gnome-keyboard-properties05:30
luminerdsproingie, eh?05:30
luminerdsproingie, what about it? yes I said that...so?05:30
rekamgcross: most of us would love to be beaten by a woman. :P05:30
Stormxluminerd, hang on. Seveas told me how to reconfigure hardware yesterday.......05:30
sproingieluminerd: just curious about the platform that's broken for every user05:30
sproingieluminerd: but i already know to avoid emachines05:30
Evilalready tried jowi05:31
luminerdsproingie, I'm lost05:31
jowiEvil, "Agencements" and press the "default" tickbox05:31
mgcrossreka: no you wouldn't05:31
luminerdsproingie, it was cheapest, that's what we needed05:31
dv__hmm05:31
sproingieluminerd: you get what you pay for05:31
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dv__motif stuff can look stylish05:31
dv__:)05:31
Madeyeguys how to extract bz2 file from command line /05:31
mgcrossreka: trust me she hits really hard05:31
dabaRmgcross: how would I know about that new game thing...if someone knows theyll help you. Let your question at least scroll ovff the screen before you ask it again. Dont say help, repeat, or rephrase your question.05:31
luminerdsproingie, false05:31
djpluminerd: do you have the same problem with all 20 machines and same branded mice?05:31
luminerdsproingie, it is debian that is not working on the machine05:31
luminerdthe hardware is fine05:31
jowiEvil, you have the french keyboard available in gnome-keyboard-settings?05:31
luminerddjp, yes05:31
sproingieluminerd: a lot of things are going to have miscellaneous problems05:32
rekamgcross: have you done the prerequisite forum/google search?05:32
mgcrossdabaR: you don't understand she's beating me05:32
mwestMadeye: tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz2 (assuming it's a tar.bz2 file)05:32
jowiEvil, "gnome-keyboard-properties" i mean05:32
mgcrossreka: yes I have, nothing close05:32
djpluminerd: and obviously they are all brand new mice on each machine...05:32
sproingieluminerd: you're the one with the problem of the mouse being jerky when the machine's under load?05:33
dabaRmgcross: what? who is beating you? If you are talking about a person, the police would be a better place to ask help, than here.05:33
luminerdsproingie, don't do this alright?  I have what I have and nothing can be done about it...$8000 was already a lot for computers, and that was the cheapest it got for 20 of em05:33
Stormxluminerd: Bah, seveas told me how to reconfigure hardware, but I can't find the damn command. Have you checked the Wiki?05:33
Evilno jowi05:33
luminerddjp, yes, new, or maybe refurbished, not sure, I think new05:33
jowiThen click "Add" there05:33
Evili don't have the french keyboard there05:33
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luminerdsproingie, no, the mouse is not jerky, the mouse doesn't work05:33
djpluminerd: what was the brand again?05:33
sproingieluminerd: wow.  usb or ps2?05:33
Evilalready tried but he don't want to do anything !!05:33
luminerddjp, of what?05:33
luminerdsproingie, ps205:33
Stormxluminerd: I'm gonna look it up for ya. You tried a reinstall?05:33
djpluminerd: the mouse?05:33
rekadabaR: he meant beating score-wise (at least i think so)05:33
luminerdStormx, yes, and on 2 different machines05:33
sproingieluminerd: does gpm even work?05:33
dabaRreka: oh no, I am going to lose a game:-/05:34
luminerddjp, it doesn't matter, no mouse works.  tried dell and sysgration...sysgration is the one all the systems have05:34
jowiEvil, what happens when you click "add"?05:34
luminerdbut both did the same thing05:34
Evili can't click on it05:34
luminerdsproingie, wouldn't know, never did anything with gpm05:34
djpluminerd: oh i see.05:34
dabaR:)05:34
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George_hi05:34
George_i'm getting a vpd error05:34
sproingieluminerd: me neither, not in a while.  it is simpler than x tho, just trying to remove all variables05:34
dabaRalmost food time:)05:34
rekamgcross: /j #cedega05:34
George_how must i fix05:34
luminerdsproingie, eh?05:35
mgcrossreka: google gives me nothing, I know you would all love to be beaten by a women but she is very strong and she can't use all four fingers at once on the cursor keys05:35
sproingieluminerd: actually, try cat /dev/psaux at another console then move the mouse around05:35
luminerdsproingie, I'm not sure what gpm is, does it come default install05:35
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sproingieluminerd: it should spew a bunch of crap onto your screen05:35
jowiEvil, then i think you could run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to set up the language if i am not mistaken (please someone correct me if i am wrong)05:35
luminerdsproingie, cat returns nothing05:35
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sproingieluminerd: methinks it's the port that's broken05:35
Stormxluminerd, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:35
luminerdsproingie, false05:35
luminerdsproingie, no hardware issues.05:35
dabaRGeorge_: Did you want to tell us more information about your problem?05:35
luminerdsproingie, I would lay my life on that.05:35
sproingieluminerd: it's broken in software05:35
luminerdsproingie, oh...05:35
luminerdheh sorry, I misinterpretted05:35
mgcrossreka: how the hell do I change to the cedega channel. I may not be a linux newbie but I am an IRC newbie...LOL05:36
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dabaRluminerd: on all computers it does the same thing?05:36
sproingieluminerd: maybe it's using a weird interrupt.  i wouldn't be surprised if linux's ps2 driver has it hardwired05:36
George_        Msg: Vpd: Cannot read VPD keys05:36
Stormxhello..........05:36
luminerddabaR, well, 2, so yes I'd assume all05:36
rekamgcross: what client are you using?05:36
Stormxluminerd: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:36
mgcrossreka: xchat05:36
djpluminerd: i don't know if this will help you, but take a look anyway... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34373705:36
rekamgcross: click on the cedega button on the bottom :)05:36
luminerdStormx, yes, several times, but I prefered to edit the xorg.conf file, which I also did05:36
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Stormxluminerd: I have no idea then05:37
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StormxWe need seveas, really ;-)05:37
mgcrossreka: we have ubuntu servers and #ubuntu05:37
dabaRshine a seveas light into the night sky...05:37
sproingieluminerd: try looking in the bios, and see if there are any user-serviceable settings for the ps2 port, write down the irq info and all that if it's there05:37
dabaRmgcross: /join #cedega05:37
mgcrossreka: and she's hitting me harder05:37
StormxElse just scrap the PS2 Mice.05:37
rekamgcross: what dabaR said05:38
sproingieluminerd: and check it against a known good machine.  as i said, linux might have assumptions hardwired in and they might be different on yours05:38
dabaRmgcross: call the cops.05:38
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mgcrossreka: thanks05:38
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sproingieluminerd: another thing to try is flipping the "plug and play OS" setting in the bios.  linux doesn't really use it, but sometimes it works better on and sometimes better off05:38
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StormxHas anyone had problems getting screen resolution above 1024x768 in a clean install or hoary?05:38
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rekaStormx: lots of people05:39
luminerdStormx, thanks anyway05:39
reka!fixres05:39
ubotuI guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:39
luminerdsproingie, bios no problems05:39
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jowiStormx, it all depends on your graphicscard and monitor settings. check the link ubotu showed05:39
luminerdsproingie, I have no good machine to check against05:39
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djpluminerd: did you take a look at the link i gave you earlier?05:39
luminerdsproingie, they are all BIOS optimized defaults05:39
Stormxreka: Seen that page, but i'm not entirely sure what I should do >_>05:39
hadi57is it possible to use ubuntu as internet server?05:39
Evilit says i got a bug with xkb jowi05:40
luminerddjp, yes, read it, seems to be a different problem though :/05:40
dabaRhadi57: yes, off course.05:40
Seveashadi57, of course :)05:40
djpluminerd: ok05:40
sproingieluminerd: "bios optimized" is an oxymoron :)05:40
xmen90shello all, i am going on day 5 of having ubuntu instlaled and still not being able to connect to the internet .... will someone please help ....05:40
luminerdsproingie, in what way?05:40
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dabaRhadi57: do you know how to use synaptic?05:40
sproingieluminerd: it is weird that it does work with other distributions.  it's gotta be some weird plug and play or acpi thing05:40
hadi57i have internet satelite modems 5 at the moment and using censornet and looking for replacement can u assist me?05:41
rekaStormx: start with this section: 'Run the Autodetect Script Again'05:41
rekaStormx: i assume you know about terminal?05:41
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luminerdsproingie, last time I fixed it by simply unplugging the mouse, turning the comp off, unplugging the comp, replugging the mouse, replugging the comp, and booting up...then it worked05:41
sproingieluminerd: cheap bioses (which is pretty much all of 'em) often guess wrong if you do the slightest bit of installation.  and sometimes it just ships broken05:41
jowiEvil, I have no idea what that is. try just to type in a terminal: "setxkbmap fr" and see if that works for you.05:41
luminerdthis time it did not work05:41
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Squallellow05:41
Squallhow do i set date and time manualy?05:41
Evili dont have it installed05:41
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hadi57dada no i dont05:41
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jowiEvil, so that is the problem.05:42
sproingieluminerd: well, that almost certainly points to the bios then05:42
jowiEvil, hang on05:42
dazjorzermm05:42
luminerdsproingie, it is not the bios05:42
rekaSquall: right-click on clock > adjust05:42
dazjorzgonna paste something on the pastebin...05:42
luminerdsproingie, the bios is the same now05:42
luminerdsproingie, as it was then05:42
luminerdso it can't be can it?05:42
dabaRhadi57: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto to learn that, it is a program that helps you install programs for your ubuntu.05:42
sproingieluminerd: the kernel desn't run any special code when the machine is unplugged05:42
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dazjorzlook here05:42
luminerdsproingie, ...eh??05:42
dazjorzhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/97505:42
sproingieeven beos only knows if the power switch is on or off ;)05:42
dabaRhadi57: apache is the web server most commonly used, there is also apache2.05:43
hadi57ill check it out05:43
FourStarGeneralIf i have a file archive for apt, how do i generate the Release etc files05:43
luminerdsproingie, I'm not sure what you mean05:43
StormxI'm guessing I need to restart X for the new screen res settings to take effect?05:43
hadi57apache is for web hosting05:43
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Squallreka: i have only command line?05:43
rekaStormx: correct05:43
StormxCtrl + Alt + Backspace ^_^05:43
dazjorzhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/97505:43
xmen90scan no one help me connect to the internet?05:43
dazjorzlook here http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/97505:43
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sproingieluminerd: i'm just being facetious.  if fiddling with the hardware directly like power-cycling resolves the problem, then it sounds like hardware05:43
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hadi57i've used squid in the past with redhad, but i am looking for complete solution includint client managment05:43
dabaRhadi57: yes, a web server.05:44
Evilok jowi05:44
rekaSquall: oh, no idea then, sorry05:44
sproingieluminerd: unless you're resuming from suspend or hibernate.  i used to have the mouse konk out on linux all the time when resuming from hibernate05:44
djpluminerd: do you have an live cd's kicking about? maybe try with one of them and check the mouse works ok then?05:44
om_can anyone explain how to add a WM compiled by source to a DM like KDM or GDM manually?05:44
sproingieluminerd: it just became something i got used to until i scraped linux off and put freebsd on the laptop05:44
luminerdsproingie, what is the fix?  That IS what happened....05:44
jowiEvil, sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr-base language-pack-fr05:44
Squallhow do i set date and time manualy in the command line?05:44
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dazjorzguys05:44
dazjorzcomon05:44
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dazjorzoops05:44
Evilok05:44
dabaRhadi57: like a webmin? I dont know about that. I have apache, proftpd, and openssh-server installed.05:45
luminerddjp, no livecds...but the mouse worked, as I said, on debian05:45
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sproingieluminerd: the fix is to install freebsd, because linux's suspend/resume stuff is so broken.  alternatively you can try compiling PS/2 mouse as a module, then rmmod and modprobe when resuming from suspend05:45
sproingieluminerd: don't leave out that detail next time :)05:45
djpluminerd: oh, ok. but i gather you had other issues with debian, right?05:45
dabaRdazjorz: I dont play games, and I dont know what you isnatlled or whatever. Make sure you check the repos before you isntall something from source.05:45
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dazjorzdabaR: I'm running a playstation 2 emulator with WINE.05:45
djpoh, ok... the problem is from resume/suspend!05:46
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dazjorzdabaR: I just got this error.05:46
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sproingieluminerd: it could be worse, i had one machine where the keyboard and nic both didn't work after resuming05:46
dabaRI am sorry to har you are wasting your time on that;)05:46
hadi57i am doing isp work in a small scale, sharing the satelite modem with 50 to 100 client on each modem and looking for a solution, as i said at the moment i am using censornet but facing some problems05:46
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sproingieluminerd: that one got freebsd too :)05:46
dabaRhadi57: consider paid help, I think.:)05:46
luminerdsproingie, well it can't be worse.05:46
hadi57i have webmin i used it05:46
onurHello, I realized that my wireless connection occassionally is cut down without any reason. How can i correct this issue ?05:47
hadi57no problem the paid help05:47
luminerdsproingie, because now I have to spend $10,000 to pay for microsoft office for my 20 windows systems.05:47
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Squallhow do i set date and time manualy in the command line?05:47
dabaRan Internet server like dhpcd or something...05:47
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sproingieluminerd: no you probably don't, there *are* workarounds05:47
jowionur, try to change the channel in your router.05:47
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sproingieluminerd: they'll cost you in time, but probably not as much as microsoft licenses05:47
onurjowi this issue only happens in ubuntu though05:47
dabaRdazjorz: well, try installing all it says is missing, that would be an obvious(sometimes) first step...05:47
hess_ello05:47
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hadi57i found some billing packages in freshmeat.net05:48
hess_anyone has issues with eciadsl ??05:48
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luminerdsproingie, if I can't fix this, I'll have to try another distro, and if I can't fix it there, it'll be Windows and I will need office.05:48
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dazjorzdabaR: I installed all of libatk. Still there. So,...05:48
jowionur, i have never tried wireless in linux so i wouldn't know (i have configured many accesspoints though)05:48
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onurSquall, try :  man date05:48
sproingieluminerd: you could try fedora, which uses a heavily patched kernel that might have it fixed.  freebsd might run fine on 'em too, it has perfectly good suspend support05:48
Deanodriverhi05:48
luminerdsproingie, I hate fedora -_-05:48
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luminerdlol05:48
JemtMy wireless (Cisco, Centrino) seems to be running just fine05:48
onurok05:48
binahmm, looks like someones been trying to break into my PC :S05:48
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Deanodriveri've got a weird issue with this new hdd I've added05:49
sproingieluminerd: i bet right now you hate linux.  choose your battles.05:49
Ozziejhi05:49
luminerdsproingie, I don't hate linux in the least05:49
onurJemt, mine too but ocassionally it is cut down with no reason05:49
sproingieluminerd: the suspend/resume bugs are something i've never seen linux adequately fix05:49
luminerdin fact if I had time, I'd do a slackware install on it05:49
cute_bettongis Breezy still busted?05:49
Deanodriverbasically, I do a df -h /dev/hdd1, and it says:05:49
DeanodriverFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on05:49
Deanodriver/dev/hdd1             147G  132G  7.4G  95% /files205:49
Jemtonur: Oh, wired05:49
Deanodriver132GB used and 7.4GB free? but there's 147GB total?05:49
luminerdsproingie, then linux is useless...which I refuse to believe05:49
Deanodriverwhat's the deal with that?05:49
sproingieluminerd: you can always run linux apps in /compat/linux in fbsd.  i believe it now even has debian as an option05:50
Evilwell05:50
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rivaites05:50
Eviljowi05:50
dabaRDeanodriver: very badly composed question.05:50
Deanodriversorry05:50
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dabaRno need to be sorry.05:50
onurHello, I realized that my wireless connection occassionally is cut down without any reason. How can i correct this issue ?05:50
sproingieluminerd: it's not so black and white.  it has nasty bugs on a particular class of hardware05:50
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jowiEvil, did it do the trick?05:50
Ozziejis there an easy way to change ubuntu's language to english? i don't like the dutch translation05:50
Evilnow my shift and altgr buttons doesn't want to work05:50
sproingieluminerd: makes it useless for some situations, but there's fixes if you spend a lot of time and money chasing them down05:50
Deanodriverbut I'm just wondering why if it's used 132GB on a 147GB partition, there's not 15GB free?05:50
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dabaR147G  132G  7.4G is that what you are complaining about, it does not compute?05:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYis Breezy still busted?05:50
sproingieanyway, i gotta get going05:50
luminerdsproingie, that's ridiculous05:51
sproingieChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, it will be busted until release05:51
luminerdsproingie, ok, ttyl05:51
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<05:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYbummer05:51
binaanyone know of a good tool that makes using snort  and viewing its outputs easier05:51
Deanodriverthe fact that 7GB seems to have gone missing :)05:51
Evili got a bug with kbd since  months :(05:51
jowiEvil, ok. then you go into gnome-keyboard-properties and set the keyboard type so it matches yours (usually 105 keys or something)05:51
Deanodriverformatted in ext305:51
dabaRsudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd05:51
onurIs there anyone i this channel experienced with wireless issues of ubuntu ?05:51
sproingieChurcH_of_FoamY: that's development for you.  even breezy debs don't track every package on breezy, just whatever they work on05:51
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sproingieChurcH_of_FoamY: actually i can't speak for breezy devs, but that does describe DD's05:52
peterretiefhey all, how to get the dvd to show the full screen (not the stripe in the middle) using vlc media05:52
Deanodriver19457 cylinders, the partition starts at 1, ends at 1945705:52
sproingieok, gone now05:52
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dabaRDeanodriver: so it gives you only that one partition?05:52
Deanodriveri only put the one partition on the drive :)05:52
jowiEvil, i need to be on my way. if you need help in french you can have a look in #ubuntu-fr channel05:52
Deanodriver(it's a files partition)05:52
peterretiefgotta go05:53
dabaRdid you do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd, Deanodriver05:53
Deanodriveryes05:53
Ozziejhow can i change ubuntu's language?05:53
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dabaRDeanodriver: and it tells only one partition?05:53
Deanodriveryes05:53
onurSecond question: "" is a turkish latter which i use in my turkish keyboard. Everything is working verywell with my keyboard but only this latter is printed slightly wrong. the dot should be centered but it is on the right of I. What can i do about it ?05:53
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jowiOzziej, the whole system? sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales05:53
jowionur, probably the font05:54
dabaRdbernar1@dabar:~$ df -h05:54
dabaRFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on05:54
dabaR/dev/hdb1             9.2G  3.3G  5.5G  38% /05:54
crashdonur: make your own font.05:54
dazjorzis SEVEAS here ?05:54
crashdor learn to deal with it ;}05:54
jowigotto go. bye all05:54
onurjowi, crashd how ?05:54
crashdlol05:54
crashdit was a joke :] 05:54
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dabaRDeanodriver: seems like a common thing.05:54
crashdtry changing to a different font with the same charset05:54
Deanodriverok05:54
crashdi have 0 experience of internationalistaiton in linux05:54
crashdthe only language i speak is english and drunk, sorry ;\05:54
Deanodriverso the space reporting is bogus?05:54
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Deanodrivereven though it works fine with the fat32 partition (on an identical drive)05:55
dazjorztest05:55
dazjorzermm05:55
dabaRit is not exactly bogus...05:55
dazjorzI need help with WINE05:55
dabaRjust misses on some occassions it seems.05:55
dazjorzsomeone here ?05:55
Ozziejjowi, wich localization should i use for normal english? en_IN ?05:55
onurcrashd, this somewhat corrects the issue but that also means i would be unable to use some of the fonts.  I also know there are some Turkish fonts. How can i install a new font to my system. And also shouldn't ubuntu staff be informed about it because it is obviously a minor bug05:56
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Deanodriverjust tried to copy a 9.4GB directory to that drive, and it says there's not enough space05:56
crashdonur: i really dont know man, try posting the forums05:56
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flodinewill i be able to update to breezy when it comes out05:56
onurHow can i be a jedi ?05:57
dazjorzonur: take a training with yoda05:57
^thehatsrule^lol05:57
sigkill yourself05:57
sigbe one with the force05:57
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dabaRflodine: yes. off course.05:57
dazjorzyou can become a jedi by not becoming a sith... you can always do that later05:57
onursig i suppose you're correct. But in a different sense05:57
dazjorzi mean, look at anakin05:57
deathllamai got a help request here.05:57
Evildo someone got this line  Option  "CoreKeyboard"05:58
dazjorzme too05:58
=== dazjorz NEEDS HELP WITH WINE
onurit is obviously easy to control your self if there is less self05:58
=== dazjorz LOOK AT : http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/975
onurso killing the self may be the answer, anyway back to ubuntu05:58
Deanodriverso does anyone know why 7GB is missing? :)05:58
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Deanodriveris it something to do with ext3? :)05:59
onurdazjorz, I suppose we all need help with WINe, don't we guys ?06:00
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dazjorzonur: WINE is a program :\06:00
binacan anyone suggest an easy to use IDS?06:00
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Kyralhttp://www.petitiononline.com/jtp7995/petition.html <-- Sign for Video Game Freedom!06:01
onurdazjorz, Wine Is Not an Emulator though06:01
trog|odytDeanodriver if you type df -h does it say there is enough space available?06:01
Deanodriverit says there's 7.4GB free, but it says the partition is 147GB, with 132GB used06:01
Deanodrivershouldn't there be 15GB free?06:02
dabaRonly mathmatically.06:02
dazjorzonur: It needs some DLLs. Should I just download them from some odd page ?06:02
DeanodriverI have another identical drive, which is formatted in fat32, but works out as 150GB, and 132GB is used, with 18GB free, like normal :)06:03
trog|odythmm yeah I guess..06:03
DeanodriverFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on06:03
Deanodriver/dev/hdd1             147G  132G  7.4G  95% /files206:03
Deanodriverthe drive in question06:03
DeanodriverFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on06:03
Deanodriver/dev/hdb1             150G  132G   18G  89% /files06:03
Deanodriverthe other one06:03
Deanodriverboth the same model drives :)06:04
trog|odytodd.. no idea, sorry06:04
Deanodriverhmm06:04
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SeveasDeanodriver, defrag the bastard :)06:04
Evilhey06:04
Deanodriverhow do i do that? :)06:04
Deanodriver(i just formatted it tonight) :P06:04
Seveasyou need a windows system for that06:04
Evilhow can i get setxkbmap back on my sysyem06:05
Deanodriverwhat, the fat32 partition?06:05
Deanodriverthe fat32 is the 150 one06:05
kestasif I get a PCMCIA wireless card, and a PCI card for my gateway computer, do I not need to buy a wireless router?06:05
Deanodriverthe 147 one (the one with the weird issue) is ext306:05
Apexyup, you need a router, or an access point if you already have a wired router06:05
trog|odytmaybe you have bad sectors on the ext3 one06:05
kestasah k :(06:06
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Evilplease help me06:06
Deanodriverany way to find out?06:06
wilhelmhi06:06
Deanodriversince I only bought it today06:06
MartenHkestas, well not if you set it up correctly06:06
Deanodriverwell06:06
Deanodriver12 hours ago06:06
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trog|odytdo you have enough room to swap the files. and format?06:06
trog|odytmake the fat32 one ext3, and vice versa06:06
ApexAt least routers are cheap nowadays06:06
wilhelmi want to install dc++ on my ubuntu system; how can i do that?.06:06
Deanodriverthe files on the fat32 one are the same as the ext3 one :P06:06
onurdazjorz, yes you might, but wine is very trouble some06:06
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kestaswell theyre over 70AUD here06:06
MartenHkestas, you can make it work without a router06:06
Deanodriverthey were originally on the fat32 one06:06
kestaswhich is a bit more than I would like06:06
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trog|odytyeah, but your first trouble shooting step is to replicate it on the other drive06:07
kestasMartenH, well I want it to have range through the whole house, and be able to access all comptuers in the network06:07
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onurdazjorz, they claim that it is alpha. And I dont think they care about it because with new Windows (at the end of 2006) Win32 will be dead and Wine will be dead also06:07
PieDhi06:07
Deanodriverreplicate what? so i should format the fat32 drive to ext3?06:07
wilhelmi want to install dc++ on my ubuntu system; how can i do that?06:07
MartenHkestas, still plausible but you might have trouble with the range06:07
trog|odyttake the "bad" drive and format it to fat32, then move allthe data back onto it and see what the df-h says about it06:07
Ozzieji just did dpkg-reconfigure locales, but my Gnome stays in dutch while i set english to be default, do i have to change gnome to?06:07
onurso people of linux start using Mono instead of wine06:07
Deanodriverok then06:07
dazjorzk06:08
PegaI know this isn't really about ubuntu but... Can you change download manager to show things as KBs, instead of Bs?06:08
PieD"Please don't use Breezy yet"06:08
dazjorzhow do i emulate win32 programs then06:08
PieDwhen will it change ?06:08
kestascan anyone recommend a good cheap wireless router?06:08
PieDX.org 7.0 rc0 is released06:08
wilhelmwho help me with installing ubuntu?06:08
kestas801.22b is fine,I dont need g06:08
Deanodriverwe'll see what happens then :)06:08
MartenHD-link and netgear are fairly good priced06:08
wilhelmwho help me with installing dc++ in ubuntu?06:08
PieDI believed it'd help stabilising breezy06:08
trog|odytkestas I'm happy with my dlink 614+06:09
kestasMartenH, any specific models you can recommend?06:09
kestastrog|odyt, hmm k thanks06:09
Deanodriverhow do i format a disk in linux? :)06:09
Pegawilhelm, I think that dc++ is only for windows? I heard once that there was DCGUI or something for linux. Not 100% sure tho.06:09
onurdazjorz, you can't. Remember wine is not an emulator. It just wraps some api and tries to work the program. Some programs you can never work, some work excellent. You google it and learn if any other people managed to run that program or not. Even for any silly program you will find some one tried it with wine06:09
MartenHkestas, not used them but I looked into it alot when I got mine, was looking at G though.  D-link 624 and 624+ where nice for that06:09
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Ozzieji just did dpkg-reconfigure locales, but my Gnome stays in dutch while i set english to be default, do i have to change gnome to?06:10
MartenHkestas, however if you are fine with just 11b you could probably get the stuff you need for a very decent price06:10
kestastrog|odyt, looks like a good one but too expensive06:10
MartenHkestas, both in store and second-hand06:10
kestasMartenH, 70USD is the lower limit06:10
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trog|odytebay06:10
kestasIm not gonna make the ebay mistake again06:10
Deanodriverso how would i reformat this disk, then? :)06:10
onurdazjorz, this is why i told everyone has problems with wine. I desperatly need Autocad 2004 in linux but i can't and no one has able to run it with Wine for example.06:10
dazjorz:(06:11
Ozzieju cant run autocad with crossover office?06:11
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dazjorzonur: So how do I emulate it then !!!06:11
onurdazjorz, you can't06:11
MartenHkestas, I got a PCI+PCMCIA+Router for 11g for 120USD, and trhat was Linksys! so something matching but in 11b and netgear or D-link shouldn't cost you more that $70 IMHO06:11
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MartenHkestas, and a good idea is to try ebay and other places liket hat if you want to save yet another few cents06:12
onurI never tried crossover office since it is commercial. But i know that you can't run Autocad 2004 with Wine very certainly06:12
wilhelmhttp://dcgui.berlios.de/download.php  <----- help me with that, what is the right choice?06:12
kestasMartenH, well the cheapest of the cheap Ive managed to whittle it down to comparing lots of prices is 95AUD, which is something like 60USD, for Router+PCMCIA, not including shipping06:13
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kestasand hopefully including tax06:13
kestasits not bad I guess06:13
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onurdazjorz, have you ever written a program with Win32 before? Believe me Win32 is more dirty than your toilet, this is why MS is throwing it away. So emulating it is worthless06:13
wilhelmhttp://dcgui.berlios.de/download.php  <----- help me with that, what is the right choice? anybody help me with that?06:13
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MartenHfairly decent I'd say. I picked my stuff in store to save shipping and found some nice mailin rebates to go with it. It pays of to spend that little extra time looking06:14
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MartenHkestas, I hope you find something, it's sooo nice to not worry about beeing hooked up everywhere06:15
onurwho are the ops of this channel06:15
Ozziejno one know how i can completely change ubuntu's language? i set dpkg-reconfigure locales to en_IN but almost everything in Gnome is still in dutch06:15
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onurOzziej, changing the langage you mean changing the menus to your language ?06:15
dv__onur, true.06:15
dv__I am writing a cross-platform UI06:15
Ozziejonur yeas06:15
Ozziejyes06:16
dv__with a win32 backend, among others.06:16
dv__using plain win32api.06:16
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teferiugh. win32 api.06:16
dv__it is...... ugly06:16
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teferiit's dead. let it lie.06:16
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dv__but sometimes I find gtk+ even uglier06:16
Funzocan anybody tell me where to find a amd64 binary version of wine?06:16
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teferigtk+ api isn't ugly if you're writing in a language that isn't C :P06:16
dv__its far from dead06:16
dv__:)06:16
onurOzziej,  can you find your language in the login iscreen06:16
rekawilhelm: don't.sudo apt-get install dcgui06:17
teferidv__: well, it SHOULD be06:17
sun_has anyone installed nvidia-glx package?06:17
dv__and which replacement?06:17
mjrFunzo, you don't06:17
epCan someone give me a quick example of how to use grep to searh  *.cpp files for a given string and also search the subdirectories. Everything i try fails.06:17
teferiyeah, swf or avalon06:17
onurI personally use Java06:17
Funzomjr??06:17
teferii'm kinda annoyed that swf is being killed in favor of avalon already, it's honestly not a bad api at all06:17
dv__.net that is?06:17
Ozziejonur, omg, that i didnt thought of that... ill try now :)06:17
onurSwing is good and SWT is another taste that you can compile it to completely native06:17
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teferisuch is progress. oh well.06:17
dv__anyway, doing my tk and is progressing well06:17
sun_ep, find . -name '*.cpp' -print | xargs grep STRING06:18
mjrFunzo, wine doesn't emulate the underlying hardware; it needs to run as a 32-bit binary to provide a 32-bit environment for the windows programs06:18
Funzook06:18
kestasare routers OS dependant?06:18
kestastheyre not right?06:18
kestashardware routers that is06:18
Funzoso is there a 64bit version in development?06:18
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kestaswireless hardware routers06:18
nightswimas long as your router doesnt run windows with ICS06:18
gorthDo i have to give the initrd option when compiling a vanilla kernel?06:19
Funzoas inm one to work with 64bit apps06:19
sun_ep, did it work?06:19
dv__gorth, no06:19
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mjrFunzo, things are being done to support 64-bit windows binaries on a 64-bit wine, but the official stance seems to be that people should just run a 32-bit wine to run 32-bit windows apps06:19
eplet me try, seems complicated :)06:19
dv__it depends on how you use the kernel06:19
dv__with a bzImage: no06:19
gorthdv__, ahh ok, the problem is that my system panic on startup..06:19
dv__with a bzImage & grub, that is.06:19
onurFunzo, as i told earlier with one year, Wine will be dead as Win32 so dont bother06:19
dv__cant say how it is with lilo thoigh06:20
gorthdv__, if i don't specify anything, will make-kpkg build a bzImage?06:20
dv__make-kpkg?06:20
dv__never used that06:20
mjronur, you're into overstatements, much?06:20
epbut it works!  Guess I need to make script or something to simplify the process.06:20
dv__onur, wrong.06:20
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dv__there are bazillion games based on the current architecture.06:20
dv__and there will be more.06:20
sun_ep, simplified: find YOUR_SOURCE_DIRECTORY -name '*.cpp' | xargs grep YOUR_REGEXP06:20
gorthdv__, ahh ok..06:20
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lenoxmoick fiona06:21
dv__since people dont throw away their installation that quickly06:21
onurbut Win32 will be like 16 bit for new windows06:21
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equexwin32 is only dead in the eyes if the marketers06:21
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dv__besides, win32 will be emulated06:21
Saba_ZHi06:21
onurso i don't think begining from the end of next year no one should use Win3206:21
sun_hi06:21
dv__gorth, i always simply do "make" and "make modules_install"06:21
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sun_has anyone installed nvidia-glx package?06:21
mjronur, what you think doesn't make it so06:21
dv__then again, I use a 2.6 kernel06:21
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epsun_,  thanks, that's helpful06:21
Deanodriverthe thing is, most new machines still use win3206:21
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gorthdv__, so do I ;)06:21
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Saba_ZIs there any way to make my intel I855M work with 3d support?06:22
gorthdv__, i just weird im the only one with the problem..06:22
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Funzoonur: Why do you say that?06:22
InquiringMindis there a graphical backup utility out there for linux?06:22
onurmjr, of course but it is a simple cause and effect thing.06:22
sun_ep, you can also try "grep --color" shows the matching strings in color, very handy06:22
mjrbesides, wine will undoubtedly be extended to win6406:22
b0xenHey I'm a bit confused. I just installed ubuntu and at no time was I prompted to set a root password.06:22
dv__but I do think that building everything upon .net is a good idea06:22
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rekaonur: you do know that most businesses still run win2000? (iirc)06:22
mjr(the preliminaries are being done already)06:22
teferib0xen: this is because you use sudo instead06:22
b0xenteferi: how do I restrict who can use sudo and who can't?06:23
onurreka,  do you now they won't be able to install new Internet Explorer 7 and ms cut support to win200006:23
epcool06:23
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teferib0xen: man sudoers06:23
reka!root06:23
ubotuI guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:23
b0xenk thx06:23
Saba_ZIs there any way to make my intel I855M work with 3d support?06:23
dv__my mighty secret plan: 1) build my TK      2) create .net bindings     3) ????     4) profit!!!!06:23
Ozziejgreat, it worked.... if i only knew it was so simple :)06:23
onurat the end of next year new windows Longhorn will emerge. Longhorn will not support Win32 in core but it will emulate, just like current 16-bit mode06:24
mjrSaba_Z, see /var/log/Xorg.0.log for why it isn't using 3d acceleration; I seem to recall that you might have to set it to use 16-bit colors to enable it06:24
onurOr i should say Windows Vista. And in Windows Vista the core kernel will based on .NET so programs will be written on .NET06:24
teferionur: except it won't...06:25
teferionur: vista is NT5.5 or so06:25
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onurAs a linux you user you will go for Mono instead of Wine obviously so there won't be any need for Wine06:25
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dv__Mono rocks06:25
dv__technically06:25
dv__I'm still confused by the ECMA license06:26
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onurAnd altough I am a Java fan, Mono will rock out of every other for some time in not too distant future06:26
dv__onur, you know something else about the license of mono?06:26
dv__you know, the insecurities because on the patents06:26
onurI should say Mono / . NET06:27
onurdv__ what is the worst thing could happen on it06:27
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dv__two scenarios:06:27
spanglesontoastwhat package do I need for playing .avi files?06:27
dv__a) MS invokes their patent claims06:27
dv__which should be prevented by ECMA06:27
mjrpotential patent problems apply for any nontrivial development libraries06:28
teferionur: vista is, incidentially, not emulating win32, it *is* win32. it's still nt. it supports avalon, but most of the OS sure as hell isn't written for .NET06:28
dv__but b) MS radically changes the .net libraries and specs in v2.0/3.0/ .....06:28
onurspanglesontoast, find the unoffical starters guide for ubuntu, everything you need written06:28
dv__and do NOT release it under RAND conditions06:28
rekaspanglesontoast: w32codecs06:28
onurdv__, b-) always happens that is why i hate MS06:28
spanglesontoastit doesn't play .avi06:28
spanglesontoastin totem06:29
InquiringMindis there a backup utility for linux?06:29
deFryskget totem-xine06:29
dv__b) is one major reason why many people abstain from mono06:29
dv__the other is a)06:29
dv__although a) seems to be safe, at least thats what the mono devs say06:29
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onurwhat you claim is can not be denied but you will now Mono will rule in the new .NET era cause theres no othe choice06:30
dazjorzBack. I downloaded the DLL's that WINE needed, gonna check if it works now.06:30
onursorry for my bad grammer06:30
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dv__technically I think virtual environments like .net are necessary06:30
dv__and a step in the right direction06:30
dazjorzJesus... 3 kbps06:30
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dv__of course not for *everything*06:30
onurmay be but I'll tell you smt06:31
onurAt first we learnt win32 then came the MFC and win32 is thrown06:31
rekaInquiringMind: more than one, iirc06:31
dv__yeah, then came winforsm06:31
dv__winforms06:31
dv__and this is soon going to be obsolete06:31
dv__once avalon arrives06:31
onurwe leanred MFC, then came the VB and neighbours son became a better programmer then a pro programmer06:31
teferishame. swf is nice.06:32
teferihonestly.06:32
mjronur, MFC was on top of Win32, so nothing was thrown06:32
dv__onur, no he wasnt06:32
onurVB became the most popular language in the world (and sh.ttest) then came .NET and VB is thrown06:32
dv__the pro can pick up VB and easily outperform the son06:32
Deanodriverpfft06:33
onurnow we learned .NET 1.2 and .NET 2.0 come and what we see. "Microsoft presents the new datagridview class", datagrid is thrown06:33
Deanodriveri learnt VB in high school, didn't use it since06:33
dv__onur, thats windows.forms, isnt it?06:33
onurthat is .NET06:33
dv__no06:34
dv__the datagridview class06:34
onuryes06:34
dv__is part of windows forms06:34
onuryes06:34
dv__not the .net core itself06:34
dv__so no problem.06:34
onurwell what is .NET06:34
dv__windows.forms is a propietary MS lib anyway06:34
dv__which mono  is *not*06:34
onurif you buy the .NET library book published by .NET then you will see those namespaces and related classes06:34
dv__i dont mind if winforms changes a lot06:35
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dv__as long as the core CLR spec changes are released under ECMA licenses06:35
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onurthey are implementing Windows.Forms to .NET06:35
SpecI am not a core CLR.06:35
onurand ASP.NET is already implemented to mono06:35
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dv__still, windows forms is a *library* built with *.net*06:35
dv__you can use .net without it06:36
kafeinesecond that.06:36
dv__its not part of the clr spec06:36
onurdefine .NET that you use in the context06:36
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dv__the CLR + the core libraries06:36
Saba_Zwhy doesnt smbfs s  in fstab doesnt work,they dont get mounted?06:36
dv__all stuff which is covered by ECMA06:36
dv__and winforms is NOT a part of it06:36
dv__winforms is not ecma-licensed - this is crucial06:37
kemikSaba_Z:  you've done something wrong then06:37
dvhartI am having trouble getting ubuntu to automount a PCMCIA CF card.  The ide.opts file says it should receive 4 arguments in plugged in, but it only receives 3 (no partition) and instead of 3 on eject, it only receives 2.  I have mounted it manually and it works fine.  Anyone have any suggestions?06:37
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Saba_Zshould i paste the line?06:37
kemikSaba_Z:  sure on pastebin06:37
dv__now, the main problem is that a winforms competitor is missing06:37
dv__gtk# works with mono only06:37
onuranyway, i am not trying to argue with you. You might be right, and say you are right. It is why i hate MS i was trying to tell06:37
dv__and gtk in windows is horrible06:37
onurJava has never such ocurrences06:38
dv__onur, yeah, got it06:38
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dv__I'm suspicious too06:38
kemikdv__:  have you used Glade and libglademm by any chance ?06:38
daxuzahello tous06:38
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dv__thats why I never touched mono before06:38
dv__I did.06:38
onurit deprecates some stuff but, never throws rather than it matures06:38
dv__I prefer Qt.06:38
onurQt does work with gnome ?06:38
jacksime trieing to switch to linux but haveing big probs with the installing06:38
kemikPega:  pr0fessional film is all you need ;)06:38
dv__unless I work in windows06:38
dv__onur, of course06:38
jacksof programs06:39
dv__Qt stuff works in gnome06:39
Pegakemik, yup. ;D06:39
Heijmenjacks: which programs?06:39
onurbut need the libraries06:39
onurto be run06:39
jacksenny programs06:39
dv__however, Qt has one serious problem: it is very very hard to create a .net binding06:39
dv__onur, yeah. just like I need gnome libs to run gnome stuff in KDE06:39
kemikdv__:  how do i use QT in gnome ?06:39
jacksi ben on windows frum start now on linux06:40
kemikwhich libs do i need apt-ing ?06:40
onurbut we are in the channel Ubuntu not Kubuntu :)06:40
Heijmenjacks: use synaptic, system->administration->synaptic package manager06:40
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dv__kemik, I didnt mean to use Qt instead of GTK for gnome06:40
Heijmen!synaptic06:40
ubotusynaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:40
dv__i meant Qt *Programs* running in gnome06:40
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kemikaha06:40
dv__my IDE is qt-based06:40
dv__and I use it in gnome often06:40
jacksit all new to me mever had linux before so going throw big lurning cuve06:40
onurdv__, do they run in a fresh installed ubuntu ?06:41
gregg_gtk also so a bug problem: performance06:41
dv__I dont know.06:41
dv__dont have ubuntu yet.06:41
gregg_gtk also has a big problem: performance06:41
jacksya i did fresh full install06:41
onurdv__, and why are you in this channel :) ?06:41
dv__I need to leech the iso tomorrow06:41
raphaARGH06:41
dv__onur, because I asked things about ubuntu06:41
raphaIt is impossible to download the Breezy CD through BitTorrent06:41
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dv__that helped me deciding whether to take ubuntu or not06:41
dv__I'm going to06:42
dv__but not without an ISO :)06:42
onurdv__, don't be offended, I am just teasing06:42
dv__gregg, true.06:42
lydoncan anyone tell me that website where you can paste code and then give away the URL for people to edit it?06:42
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dv__*especially* in windows. ever seen xchat or gimp for windows?06:42
gregg_yeah06:42
dv__lydon, rafb.net/paste06:42
Heijmenjacks: also check http://ubuntuguide.org/06:42
gregg_pastebin.com06:42
kemiklydon:  topic06:42
dv__thats why I use win32api GUI widgets in the win32 backend06:42
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dv__gtk draws all stuff in windows itself, which is a bad idea.06:43
onurdv__, may i ask did you consider java as an option ?06:43
PegaTho still having some problems with this stuff. Xine seems to halt always when I try to listen to mp3s with it, totem the movie player seems to have much difficulties in opening any of my pr0fessional movies, audacity can't do anything with audio (rofl) and xmms... it seems to halt every time I press play. :S06:43
dv__onur, in which context?06:43
dv__java/.net or java/my TK?06:43
onurdv__, for your cross platform GUI ?06:43
dv__no06:43
dv__because its totally in C/C++06:43
kemikjava is, unfortunately, the slow06:43
gregg_swing has gotten pretty good06:43
onurkemik, no it is not06:43
gregg_kemik: well, not really06:44
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kemikreally? tell that to JFTP compared to GFTP06:44
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Pegaquicktime doesn't even start up and I don't know how to uninstall it. Add or remove aplications -thingy doesn't work...06:44
lydonkemik: sorry, but this is where I first found it... thanks06:44
kemikor any other graphical java-application06:44
dv__onur, but as I said, I'm considering a .net binding06:44
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dv__since I am *not* happy with gtk# as the only cross-platform option06:44
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dv__and Qt# is going to be a lot of work until its ready06:44
onurdv__, you know better for your project but since this is smt Crossplatform, Java might have eased your pain06:45
Quest-Masterdv__: wx-sharp?06:45
dv__wxsharp exists?06:45
Quest-MasterYes, Google for it06:45
gregg_while gtk is pain on windows, wx is a pain on unix...06:45
dv__oh06:45
dv__now here is something I missed06:45
dv__:)06:45
dv__onur, yeah.06:45
gregg_kemik: jedit is quite responsive06:45
dv__but its no fun to do huge bindings just for one app06:45
dv__especially templates06:46
dv__try to bind templates to java code with the JNI06:46
dv__:)06:46
karlwrkthere's wx-mono, which is more useful than wxsharp would be06:46
kemikgregg_:  thats a texteditor.. try a huge program with a gui06:46
kemikgregg_:  and startuptimes in java is a pain aswell ;)06:46
dv__wxmono is useful in visual studio.net as well?06:46
gregg_kemik: I consider jedit huge, especially with a couple of plugins06:46
kemikgregg_:  although, java is great - crossplatfrom and easy to code06:47
gregg_kemik: about 5 seconds06:47
karlwrkdv: not sure, it was very very rough around the edges last I played with it,06:47
gregg_and this is a friggin slow box here :)06:47
karlwrkbut you did get a single binary that you could run in both places06:47
onurconsider eclipse, conside Jbuilder and similar progs they are not slow (not very fast in GUIwise neither)06:47
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kemikonur:  i dont consider eclipse very fast no.. (and i've used it alot)06:48
karlwrktoolkit choices for cross platform work still suck in my opinion06:48
teferiit's rather pleasant to use if you have a grunty enough machine, though06:48
onurand for the console based, Java is close to C++ performance06:48
teferi(eclipse)06:48
teferiit's a great IDE06:48
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kemikteferi:  indeed it is06:48
LOQUiLLO_hello friends, I need a litle help06:48
dv__karlwrk, maybe my tk doesnt :)06:48
kemikonly used eclipse for java development tho...06:48
dv__at least I hope that06:48
teferime too06:48
teferiit's really nice for that06:48
jacksennyone got a sit i can go to fore walkthrow on doing installs of programs i never had linux before06:48
teferithe whole compile code as you write it thing is a blessing06:49
karlwrkmy tk being "my tk" (tm) or your tk? or just tk?06:49
kemikgonna try configuring the CDT and dev. some c/c++ init06:49
jacksand wont to set it up as a server06:49
dv__btw, how is monodevelop06:49
karlwrkdo you mean anything other than standard vanilla tk?06:49
dv__karlwrk, the second06:49
LOQUiLLO_I wanna install Opera, but I have this error: Reading package lists... Done06:49
LOQUiLLO_Building dependency tree... Done06:49
LOQUiLLO_E: Couldn't find package opera-static_8.02-20050727.1-qt_en_i386.deb06:49
dv__my gui lib06:49
dv__or whatever06:49
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karlwrkyatk ;)06:49
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dv__exactly06:49
onuranyway I am out bye06:49
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dv__I wanted to use Qt406:49
dv__but its a mess in windows06:50
gregg_LOQUiLLO_: you'll want to easy dpkg -i instead of apt-get06:50
karlwrkmay I ask what your design goals are?06:50
gregg_s/easy/use/ (wtf)06:50
dv__the opensource edition has to be heavily patched in visual studio06:50
dv__-in +for06:50
LOQUiLLO_oh! thanks06:50
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dv__and still doesnt work reliably06:50
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dv__karlwrk, easy API, native widget use (if possible), small size06:50
hans_is there a program like daemon tools for ubuntu?06:50
dv__it doesnt try to have a wxWidgets-like featureset06:51
karlwrkwhat's the difference between you and wx then?06:51
karlwrkahh.06:51
dv__which is, well, quite insane :)06:51
karlwrkyeah, wx could really stand do drop a lot of cruft06:51
dv__right now the code fits 3 times in a floppy idsk06:51
karlwrkI like the idea of wx,06:51
dv__disk06:51
dv__and already has event handling and about 20 widgets06:51
karlwrkbut there are things that just don't need to be there.06:51
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dv__and layout mechanisms etc.06:51
jacksbrb06:51
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dArtagnanAny idea with which command/hotkey I can display my menubar in xchat again, the menubar is gone06:52
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Narimanhello06:52
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dv__karlwrk, if you are a gtk crack, then feel invited to do a gtk backend :D06:52
Narimani need some help installing xmms06:52
dv__gtk is simply too cryptic for me.06:52
Deanodriverbed time06:52
Deanodrivernight06:52
dv__I can deal with win32 pretty well, but *not* with gtk+06:52
gregg_dv__: cryptic?06:53
dv__yeah06:53
gregg_could you explain that a little bit more?06:53
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dv__well, the way of handling the widgets it totally unfamiliar06:54
karlwrkgtk is a pig06:54
karlwrkI hate how quirky my wxapps behave on gtk06:54
gregg_the gtk port of wx is teh crap06:54
karlwrkgtk file dialogs at least06:54
Narimanhello? cane some one help me?06:54
dv__thats why I started a qt backend06:54
karlwrkno, we're too busy off topic :)06:54
dv__since I am familiar with qt06:54
karlwrkyeah, but qt apps on gnome look ugly as sin as well :(06:55
dv__yeah.06:55
karlwrkand qt has such an unfriendly licensing scheme06:55
dv__but its not as if I had a lot of options..06:55
karlwrklose lose lose situation :(06:55
KyralNariman, sudo apt-get install xmms06:55
gregg_and there's no decent GUI designer for wx06:55
Narimanthanx06:55
karlwrkmuch easier to just target one platform, unfortunately :(06:55
dv__yes, thats why I actually wanted to do a gtk backend06:55
jasoncohenKyral, why not beep-media-player?06:55
dv__oh, the cross-platform issue isnt a problem06:55
Kyralbecause he asked for XMMS and I was about to suggest Beep06:55
dv__this works well06:55
LOQUiLLO_gregg_: thanks06:55
karlwrk(beep won't let you doublesize, and is just a buggy, but pretty version of xmms)06:55
Narimanit says that xmms in not available :(06:56
dv__I dont use xmms much anymore. I rely on mpd & ncmpc & glurp today06:56
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gregg_karlwrk, and many plugins aren't available for beep06:56
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Narimanok, how do i install glurp?06:56
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Narimanand is it good?06:57
dv__Nariman, first:06:57
dv__glurp is a client.06:57
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dv__mpd is a music player daemon06:57
InquiringMindwhere can i get the linux ums firmware for my iriver ifp 895?06:57
ubuntu_im new06:57
dv__it plays stuff in the background06:57
karlwrkand ncmpc?06:57
dv__and you can control it using clients like glurp06:57
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dv__ncmpc is a client as well06:57
karlwrknew cool music player client06:57
dv__but using ncurses instead of gtk06:57
KyralNariman, did you enable the Universe and Multiverse?06:57
richardI just installed Ubuntu Hoary and I am getting 403 errors trying to update. What do I do?06:57
dv__the nice thing about mpd is that it runs even if X crashes06:57
richardAny idea how to fix this?06:58
karlwrkx shouldn't crash06:58
dv__in theory06:58
karlwrkand if it crashes, I generally don't care about my music anymore :)06:58
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drcodehi all06:58
dv__in theory, I should be rich06:58
dv__:)06:58
LOQUiLLO_richard: maybe your cd is bad06:58
drcodewith vncviewer there is menu , how can I get to this menu?06:58
hubsihello, i have one problem. i don't hear sound. all controlers for sound are on maximum, and i don't know what to do. but if i want to disable/enable "tone" the program crashs06:58
richardthe install went perfectly, this is trying to install security updates etc.06:58
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Kyralrichard, did you delete the "us." from the sources.list?06:59
richardno, I didnt try that06:59
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InquiringMindwhere can i get the linux ums firmware for my iriver ifp 895?06:59
InquiringMindoops sry spammed ;(07:00
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fredforfaenhey peeps07:01
fredforfaenwhats up?07:01
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LOQUiLLO_richard: you need check you sources.list07:02
LOQUiLLO_comment E: ......07:02
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LOQUiLLO_type #E: ....07:02
hubsihello, i have one problem. i don't hear sound. all controlers for sound are on maximum, and i don't know what to do. but if i want to disable/enable "tone" the program crashs07:02
Goodspeedhow do i remove a folder i dont have permission to07:02
Goodspeed?07:02
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hubsiGoodspeed, root, rm -R07:02
Goodspeedhubsi go to system/prefs and check the multimedia test07:03
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djpGoodspeed: sudo rm -R07:03
richardOk i took out the us in the sources list but still made no difference.07:03
Goodspeedshould i install wine from the way they say to at winehq or use the ones from universe?07:04
richardI get W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:04
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Amd_umm. the system says root password is wrong although i am sure that it isn't. how can i fix this / why isn't it accepting it?07:05
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Goodspeedwhat version of wine should i get??07:06
dArtagnanthe latest? (nah, too obvious :P)07:06
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mjrGoodspeed, the one that's prepackaged at first?07:07
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Goodspeedwell when i download either of them the one on synaptic and the one from sourceforge there's no config file in .wine07:07
oonooni installed ndiswrapper on amd64, got a IPN2220 wifi card ; everything seems to work (driver and hardware present for ndiswrapper) and yet, wlan doesnt appear in the Network menu...07:07
mjroonoon, a 64-bit windows driver?07:07
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jacksime lost with the installing07:08
oonoonmjr > not sure, suppose it is 32 bits driver07:08
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jacksis thear a good book i can get07:08
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njeanhey all07:08
sidneiX still broken?07:08
njeanI need some help :(07:09
mjroonoon, if you're running a 64-bit kernel on your box, you can't use 32-bit windows drivers via ndiswrapper07:09
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mastaYodaHi07:09
mastaYodaAny developer there?07:09
mjroonoon, 'course, if you run a 32-bit kernel, things are different07:09
CossHey when i download ubuntu i download the .iso file, is it just to burn that file on a cd and boot?07:09
oonoonmjr > i agree, but im surprised there's no error msgs...07:09
njeanwhy I can't hear any sound except system sounds like the ubuntu drums?07:09
dv__is mpg123 for ubuntu available?07:09
dv__and the xmms plugin of it?07:09
Choubakayes.07:10
Choubakamaybe in universe.07:10
oonoonmjr > i run a 64-bit kernel07:10
dv__good. how does one add "universe" to the sources list in ubuntu?07:10
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dv__/etc/sources.list seems to be empty07:10
njeancan anybody please help me with sounds please? I don't know where to crash my head :(07:10
Choubakawell, of course07:10
MadForest help: Trying to install on laptop which will NOT boot to CD; trying to use loadlin. Anyone here familar with this process?07:10
oonoonmjr > isnt that weird that ndiswrapper detects the hardware anyway ?07:11
Choubakasince it's /etc/apt/sources.list07:11
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Deterministguys, chould you try and reach deterport.ath.cx from your browser and tell me if my webserver works?07:11
dv__doh :o)07:11
Coss Hey when i download ubuntu i download the .iso file, is it just to burn that file on a cd and boot? Please someone answer07:11
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dv__and where is "universe"?07:11
mjroonoon, right, then if the driver is 32-bit, no go. Naughty of it not to give a proper error. And no, detecting the hardware is easy; just try lspci.07:11
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MadForestcoss: yes, that's basically right. Make sure your bios is set to boot to CD07:11
dv__is it a branch, like main and non-free in debian?07:11
Choubakayes.07:11
dv__k07:11
neighborleeis memtest86 reliable enough to believe its giving accurate info...it is showing some bad ram but I want to be SURE before I get more ram..???07:11
djpCoss: use the iso to burn yo CD. then bott with said CD07:11
CossMadForest, thankyou for the answer, yes i have :)07:11
Choubakauniverse enables unsupported packages07:11
Amd_Why didn't Ubuntu install Synaptic?07:12
Cossdjp huh?07:12
oonoonmjr > so , i must conclude that there's a prob with the driver itself ... ?07:12
njeanwhy I can't hear any sound except system sounds like the ubuntu drums? please help :(07:12
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Choubakaand multiverse enables nonfree07:12
Amd_HOW CAN I INSTALL SYNAPTIC?07:12
njeansudo apt-get install synaptic ?07:12
DeterministAmd_, apt-get install synaptic07:12
mjroonoon, no, as I said, if it's a 32-bit driver, it's just incompatible with your 64-bit kernel, and you can't use it07:12
djpCoss: use the iso you downloaded to burn a CD, then boot from said CD. Then follow the prompts07:12
MadForest help: Trying to install on laptop which will NOT boot to CD; trying to use loadlin. Anyone here familar with this process?07:12
djpAmd_: synaptic is installed by default07:13
oonoonmjr > yeah , i understand that, so it is possible for the driver to be incompatible and to show no error msgs; damn07:13
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njeanwhy I can't hear any sound except system sounds like the ubuntu drums? please help :(07:13
Goodspeed./configure && make && make install && ldconfig07:13
dv__njean, ubuntu or kubuntu?07:13
mjroonoon, it's not the job of the driver to give errors, it's ndiswrapper's07:13
njeanubuntu, dv07:13
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Goodspeedyou use that command to install any tar file right?07:13
dv__could be arts blocking stuff07:13
dv__ah07:13
oonoonmjr > ok, thanks for your help07:13
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mjr(in this case)07:13
patrick__hi07:13
Amd_djp: well it isn't on KDE's "administration" menu07:14
njeanI really dont know what to do..07:14
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patrick__has someone a good sources.list07:14
MadForestANYONE?: Trying to install on laptop which will NOT boot to CD; trying to use loadlin. Anyone here familar with this process?07:14
djpAmd_: sorry, referring to the default install which is gnome07:14
patrick__which the latest kde- and gnomedesktop environment?07:15
f_newtonloadlin eh?07:15
dv__njean, fire up an xterm07:15
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dv__and type ps -e07:15
dv__look for mplayer, xine, artsd...07:15
ChoubakaAmd_: for KDE you need kynaptic07:15
patrick__no07:16
patrick__synaptic does that job as well07:16
patrick__^07:16
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patrick__u simply have to add kde strings07:16
ChoubakaWell, it's still gnome.07:16
patrick__to the sources.list07:16
Choubaka:P07:16
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Choubakafor KDE you _should_ use kynaptic.07:16
Choubakabecause it's a QT app, whereas synaptic is not07:16
patrick__its a less comfortable synaptic rpelacement07:16
{linuxcraker] madforest, check your bios to make it boot from cd07:17
patrick__why should i use Kynaptic if synatic does the better job?07:17
MadForestlinuxcraker; thanks, of course I checked that. no new bios available either07:17
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patrick__Choubaka, why is that important?07:17
Goodspeedwhere's the wine forum?07:17
Frafrahi all07:17
patrick__Goodspeed, isnt wine now called cedega?07:17
{linuxcraker] and you can't enable it?07:17
Choubakano.07:17
Goodspeedi dont want to pay for windows when i already own it07:17
Choubakapatrick__: because Gnome apps will have to load Gnome libraties.07:17
Frafrappracer give me this error: Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) <= why?07:17
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ChoubakaFrafra: Hard to say07:18
patrick__Choubaka, i didnt even noticed a speed drop07:18
patrick__1gb ram07:18
patrick__amd64 cpu07:18
Choubakapatrick__: but it takes a longer time to load07:18
patrick__not really07:18
ChoubakaAND not everyone has such a monster for a desktop07:18
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FrafraChoubaka: i need some libraries?07:18
Choubaka:P07:18
ChoubakaFrafra: no.07:18
Amd_how can i locate kynaptic installed packages???07:18
ChoubakaFrafra: The program has a bug.07:18
dv__is it safe to call apt-get update in ubuntu?07:18
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Choubakadv__: yes.07:19
dv__good.07:19
dv__for instance, to get the universe stuff07:19
patrick__well.. if osmeone would share his special kde and gnome desktop sources list07:19
ChoubakaIn fact, it's required if you want to keep the system maintained :P07:19
patrick__it would save time07:19
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patrick__coze we have the same probleme Amd_07:19
patrick__clean install and a lack of good osurces ;)07:19
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ChoubakaGood sources?07:19
patrick__ya... e.g. some bookmarks in pastebin07:19
{linuxcraker] why cant i change song names in xmms?07:19
Choubakawhat do you need that's not in Ubuntu's repositories?07:19
patrick__i simply could copy07:20
f_newtonhmm i thought lilo was pretty much dead07:20
djppatrick__: just add the universe repo. that should be all you need...07:20
patrick__deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main <--- that e.g07:20
Choubakaaha. :P07:20
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patrick__Choubaka, do u have kde as well07:21
Choubakano07:21
patrick__i need a complete sources list for any life situations07:21
djppatrick__: you should check out #kubuntu07:21
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patrick__djp, not yet07:21
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patrick__http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/527 <-- missing there something?07:22
PegaHey. If I find a program/game that I want to install and binaries are only available for other distros (fedora core 3 in this situation) can I use them anyways?07:22
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{linuxcraker] why not07:23
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PegaI dunno. Just tough that there were diffrent binaries for diffrent versions for some reason. :D07:24
KyralPega, if they are RPMs you will have to run them through alien first07:24
neighborleeis memtest86 reliable enough to believe its giving accurate info...it is showing some bad ram but I want to be SURE before I get more ram..???07:24
Pegaok07:24
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patrick__btw. can i modify grup to boot windows automatically07:24
Kyralif it is a sourceball, I would check Apt first to see if you can avoid compiling it07:24
CarlFKneighborlee - I can't imagine it giving a false negative07:25
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f_newtonneighborlee, are you experiencing problems with system operations?07:25
neighborleeI sure am07:25
Kyraland if its a DEB just do sudo dpkg -i <filename>07:25
neighborleemostly in linux...windows rarely if ever crashes07:25
f_newtonthat would be a second opinion then07:25
neighborleehowever doNOT take that as me liking windows better..OH contraire07:25
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neighborleef_newton, yes..I get the weird dektop lockups that others also are seeing  in gnome07:26
neighborleef_newton, but not others are seeing it of course..so I guess in my case at least bad ram is indeed a culrprit07:26
djpis the lock up occuring under hoary or breezy?07:26
neighborleehoary07:26
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neighborleedjp, so you know..I h ave that darn rambus .got it with my dell computer few years ago07:27
patrick__http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/97607:27
f_newtonneighborlee, weird lockups in gnome?  have you checked your logs?07:27
patrick__any thing to add there?07:27
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neighborleef_newton, several times07:27
neighborleef_newton, nothing useable or enlightening07:27
Narimancan someone help me install wine??07:28
f_newtonmemory scheduling and allocation would be my first guess... I would also check to see if threadcalls were being ignored...another possible memory culprit07:28
neighborleebut if ram is causing this,,is it really going to show up anywhere in a log ??07:28
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f_newtonit should explain that a threadcall was halted or unacted on07:28
rekapatrick__: you can tell grub to boot windows automatically by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst and changing the 'default' value07:28
neighborleef_newton, hmm interesting..what log should show me this culprit07:28
Choubakaneighborlee: Have you run memtest?07:29
f_newtondoes the kernel do a syslog anymore y'all?07:29
neighborleeChoubaka, yes07:29
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neighborleeChoubaka, the bottom section does indeed show some bad sectors..I just wanted to be sure memtest was reliable before I coughed up for different ram07:30
Choubakaneighborlee: google for "badram"07:30
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f_newtonneighborlee, two questions 1.  is this a laptop  2.  is it bargain ram?07:30
neighborleef_newton, heh07:30
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f_newtonof course laptop ram is no bargain...07:31
Choubakaneighborlee: badram may be a workaround until you can get new ram07:31
neighborleef_newton, not laptop..and it is not bargain ram..it is this..rambus stuff that came with my dell dimension 8200 system07:31
f_newtonrambus?07:31
neighborleeChoubaka, hmm interesting..thank you I will look into it...07:31
f_newtonhmmm is that stuff still around?07:31
neighborleef_newton, yes07:31
neighborleef_newton, ONLY from dell faik07:31
neighborleewhich means PRICEY im relatively sure LOL07:31
f_newtonyes rambus is high dollar07:32
neighborleeand I dont really want to go there..might just have to g et new puter altogether07:32
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f_newtonmucho elcosto alot-o07:32
neighborleeLOL07:32
epIs this channel archived somewhere?07:32
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paul__nbmnbmnb07:32
Choubakaep: I have logs. :P07:32
f_newtonneighborlee, well if worse comes to worse you can buy a new system n send the old one to ME07:32
f_newtonlol07:32
neighborleeheh07:33
f_newtonram bus isnt THAT high07:33
neighborleeyou guys/gals ? are the best07:33
neighborleecute room I will say that..laugher rules!! ( glad RTFM is gone)07:33
neighborleebbl after work day07:33
neighborleemeep meep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>07:33
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f_newtonChoubaka, arent there syslogs showing stop errors ?07:33
patrick__reka, thx. i will try it :)07:34
epChoubaka, great  grep 'ep' and paste em :)07:34
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Choubakaep: eh.07:34
f_newtonneighborlee is another convert from fedora07:34
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ChoubakaI won't paste them, but I can send them to you07:35
Choubakaep: though, you realise "ep" is probably a common two-letter combo in sentences?07:35
roothi all07:35
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ephow about 'ep:'07:35
ChoubakaI'll try that07:36
epfor today07:36
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roothi all07:36
Kyralhello07:37
dv__or <ep>07:37
redtechhello root07:38
dv__a root in here?07:38
redtechtsk tsk07:38
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dv__gimme your ip...07:38
dv__:P07:38
Choubakaep: http://ihme.org/~choubaka/ep.log.bz207:39
Kyrallol07:39
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Kyral!lart dv__07:39
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epthanks!07:39
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Choubakaep: that'll only have stuff said to you, though.07:39
dv__go on07:39
Nariman:(:( can some one help me install wine??07:39
dv__I can rename myself to dv___07:39
dv__:)07:39
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Kyralroot: It ain't a good idea to run XChat as root user07:40
dv__it aint a good idea to be in the internet as root user07:40
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Kyraltrue07:40
dv__unless you have to install stuff07:40
rekalart?07:40
Kyrallast I knew, XChat yelled at you for running it as root07:41
sunanyone know how to install ALSA 1.0.8 in ubuntu?07:41
mjrsun, isn't it installed by default?07:41
Narimananyone know how to install Wine07:41
Kyralwhat version does it run now?07:41
ChoubakaWhat's the in-kernel version?07:41
KyralNariman: sudo apt-get install wine?07:41
ChoubakaNariman: sudo aptitude install wine07:41
redtechNariman: sudo apt-get install wine07:41
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redtechheh07:41
sunmjr, that's what i thought, but version 1.0.6 comes with ubuntu; not version 1.0.807:41
Narimanis it so simple??07:41
rootif I have console that open , how can I close it from remote client?07:41
rootonly by reset?07:41
dv__should be07:42
redtechNariman: that it is07:42
Kyralyes Nariman07:42
Choubakasun: Do you need version 1.0.8 for something?07:42
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rootI mean reboot?07:42
dv__unless someone moved it away because of licensing problems07:42
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dv__then things get ugly07:42
Choubakasun: It'll be troublesome to install since it's kernel-space07:42
sunChoubaka, yes to get my audigy 2 value working07:42
KyralNariman, most of the software installs easy :D07:42
coreyohas anyone had luck using suspend-to-ram/sleep with an sata controller ... namely the piix sata controller?07:42
NarimanUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:42
dv__sun, kernel 2.6 has alsa built-in07:42
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Narimaneasy huh? :)07:42
ChoubakaNariman: use sudo.07:42
Kyralyah07:42
Narimanadn that means?07:42
Kyralsudo!07:42
sundv__, correct but it's using alsa 1.0.6, not 1.0.807:42
epChoubaka, I see, weird I was in here about 2 hours ago and got some advise using find and grep.  Those tells are missing from the logs.  Maybe an hour ago.07:43
dv__Nariman, are you running apt already?07:43
dv__installing something?07:43
ChoubakaNariman: "sudo apt-get install wine"07:43
Choubaka:P07:43
Choubakaoh, yeah.07:43
sunalsa 1.0.6 doesn't support soundblaster audigy 207:43
dv__he's logged as root already07:43
epno big deal,  thanks for trying07:43
dv__no need for sudo07:43
ChoubakaAre you running synaptic?07:43
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Elrohirquick question: how to install new fonts on Hoary and where to find them?07:43
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Elrohirand btw, does Hoary support ttf?07:43
Narimanwtf, same thing07:43
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patrick__do i have to uncomment deb-src entries as well?07:43
PegaUmm. I installed nethack from synaptic... I think. It did install, but where does it install stuff? atleast applications -> games doesn't show it.07:44
rekaElrohir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto07:44
sunChoubaka, will i have to compile stuff?07:44
ChoubakaPega: it probably doesn't create proper gnome menu entries.07:44
Elrohirthnk you...07:44
Choubakasun: yes.07:44
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dv__Pega, try calling it from the console07:44
PegaHow. Will I tjust try something like nethack as a command? xD07:45
Choubakayes.07:45
dv__just type "nethack"07:45
Pegaoh07:45
Pega:D07:45
dv__its funny-looking, yeah :)07:45
sunChoubaka, it's weird; synaptic says i have alsa 1.0.8 but when i cat /proc/asound/version it says 1.0.607:45
Pegaoh07:45
Pegait worked07:45
Choubakasun: you downloaded the modules?07:45
Pegathx07:45
Choubakasun: or wtf?07:45
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dv__sun, yes, the KERNEL alsa is 1.0.6,07:45
dv__and this is the active one07:45
rekaPega: this your 1st linux distro?07:46
dv__the non-kernel 1.0.8 is ignored07:46
sunoh07:46
dv__at least thats what I suspect07:46
sunhow do i tell the system to use the non-kernel 1.0.8?07:46
dv__this I dunno.07:46
dv__but it would be better to patch the kernel I think.07:47
dv__are there alsa kernel patches?07:47
Elrohirdoes Hoary support TrueType fonts?07:47
sJaMalsa is no kernel patch07:47
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sJaMI thought07:47
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Pegareka, kinda. I used Linux before I used windows (like... when I was 8 years old), but this is my first time from the time that I remember anything about.07:47
wilhelmhow can i install Tcl/Tk 8.3 ??07:47
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rootI login as regular user07:48
rootI can see what users login and shutdown07:48
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rekaPega: geez, that was an early start. :)07:48
suni know alsa 1.0.8 works with my card because that's what i was using in FC407:48
wahlaure07:49
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wahlauany have experience usign hoary with realplayer to play rmvb?07:49
wahlau!realplay07:49
ubotuwahlau: Are you smoking crack?07:49
sunknow any place i can get testing kernel builds?07:49
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wahlau!realplayer07:49
ubotuNo idea, wahlau07:49
wilhelmhow can i install Tcl/Tk 8.3 ?? help plz07:49
Elrohirdoes Hoary support TrueType fonts?07:49
wahlauwilhelm: have you tried using synaptic?07:50
Pegareka, yeah, my father thought that "why to teach that lil fella to use some crappy and expensive software isntead of this one that I use myself?"... Not sure why I changedf to windows later, but it just happened. :(07:50
dv__the games, maybe?07:50
wilhelmi dont know how to do this07:50
HackmoHey all, firefox just crashed on me and I closed it using the red cross you can add the the pannel07:50
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wilhelmhow i use synaptic?07:50
Hackmonow when I try to start it, it asks me to select a profile but when I do it says that it's already in use07:50
sJaMwilhelm, sudo apt-get install tcl8.3 tk8.307:50
Hackmoany ideas on how to sort it?07:50
recoverubuntuforums.org is down?07:50
rekarecover: seems to be07:51
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rekaHackmo: do you have multiple profiles?07:51
Hackmoyeah two, but only because I had this problem before and I needed to resort to making a new profile07:51
Hackmothere was a command someone told me to type "killall something" which helped, killall firefox doesn't seem to be working though07:52
dv__OMG07:53
dv__2794 MB07:53
dv__for the dvd iso07:53
Elrohirdoes Hoary support TrueType fonts?07:53
dv__Elerosse, yes07:53
dv__uh07:53
dv__Elrohir, yes07:53
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rekaHackmo: might help: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use07:54
Elrohirthanx...07:54
weejamercan anyone help me with mounting drive problems07:54
wahlauand rmvb?07:54
wahlau:D07:54
Hackmoreka: thanks07:54
wahlauweejamer: shoot?07:54
dArtagnanHackmo, there is a tool to kill apps07:54
Hackmoreka: I just realised that I can't get to that link because I can't use firefox07:54
weejameri have some Fat drives that wont mount and i don;t know why07:54
dArtagnanlike the windows task manager07:54
HackmodArtagnan: yeah that's what caused this problem07:55
wahlauweejamer: wat fat?07:55
wahlauntfs?07:55
weejamerfat 3207:55
wahlauFAT32?07:55
wahlaufunny07:55
wahlauworks for me07:55
rgouldAnyone recommend any good XML viewing/editing tools for Ubuntu?07:55
rekaHackmo: lol07:55
dv__rgould, nedit07:55
dv__:)07:55
dArtagnanHackmo, system monitor07:55
wahlauwhat does the error message says?07:55
wahlau/var/log/message ?07:55
suncan anyone help me install alsa-source package into the kernel?07:55
Chaotic_Realityanyone had any trouble with ubuntu randomly shutting down their pc?  i have a laptop, and after installing it a few months ago i had this issue.  i tried it again yesterday and it is still doing it. the /var/log/messages really doesn't show anything useful around the time it happens...it typically happens within an hour of inactivity07:55
wahlaus/message/messages07:55
patrick__does someone have a good deb source for the latest openoffice beta?07:55
weejamermount /dev/hda207:56
weejamermount: can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:56
dArtagnanpatrick__, tried openoffice.org? :P07:56
rekaHackmo: it basically says firefox probably didn't shut down properly, so your profile is locked07:56
patrick__a deb source would be nice :)07:56
HackmodArtagnan, reka: thanks i've got it now, I needed to do killall firefox-bin instead of killall firefox :)07:56
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dv__I want to know why firefox is so much slower in X11 than in windows sometimes07:57
sunany kernel hackers here?07:57
dArtagnanpatrick__, http://people.debian.org/~halls/openoffice/source/07:57
dArtagnantry this one07:58
suni'm trying to install alsa-source package into the kernel? please help :)07:58
weejamerguess you don;t know wahlau07:58
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dArtagnandon't know if that is the correct url, ubuntu forums aren't working07:58
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rekai was gonna say to try this:07:59
reka!alsa07:59
ubotuhmm... alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:59
rekaheh, double link07:59
sunlol i opened both07:59
rekaubotu: alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:59
ubotu...but alsa is already something else...07:59
rekaubotu: forget alsa07:59
ubotui forgot alsa, reka07:59
rekaubotu: alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:59
weejamercan anyone help me with mounting windows partitions (newbie to linux)08:00
wilhelm./tibiawish: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <<what should i do??>>08:00
reka!mount08:00
ubotumethinks mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:00
rekaweejamer: there you go08:00
Quest-Masterdv__: for me, all apps. load slower than on Windows08:01
rgoulddv__, thanks08:01
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rekaQuest-Master: what's your system?08:01
sunis ubotu a robot?08:01
dv__rgould, actually that wasnt meant seriously :)08:01
dv__but ok, nedit *is* a cool editor08:01
rgoulddv__, heh, well, it loaded the xml file that firefox couldn't :)08:01
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weejamerthanx *reading*08:01
dv__well, yeah08:01
_Di42lomy xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?08:01
dv__nedit can handle a lot08:01
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rekasun: he's a chatbot, yes08:02
ixizhi08:02
ixizhow do I install MS fonts?08:02
dArtagnanthere are two packages with ms fonts08:02
ixizi searhed on google, but can't get in on the homepages for some reason08:02
dArtagnanthe url is on ubuntu forums08:02
dArtagnanbut it's down now08:02
_Di42loixiz find them and download them to ~.fonts08:02
Quest-Masterreka: 2.4 Ghz Celeron, 256MB RAM, 40GB HD with DMA08:03
rekaQuest-Master: and this is with gnome?08:03
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wahlauweejamer: you still there?08:03
zetorhello all!08:03
Quest-Masterreka: Firefox takes 30 seconds to load compared to 5 on Windows, Rhythmbox 15 while foobar2000 takes 2, console on Gnome takes 10 seconds while Windows takes 108:03
Quest-Masterreka: Yes08:03
ixizWhat's the name of that package?08:03
wilhelmwho know how to install and play tibia in ubuntu?08:04
rekaQuest-Master: your system is OK, maybe you should try a more lightweight window manager just to compare...xfce is a nice choice08:04
dv__firefox also is sluggish on some sites08:04
dv__compared to windows08:04
Quest-Masterreka: I don't see why a window manager would slow everything down so much though08:04
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Quest-MasterNautilus is also buggy and unresponsive at many times08:04
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dv__i like konqueror08:05
Quest-MasterAnd the main Gnome menu freezes the entire Gnome system for 10 seconds while it loads08:05
wilhelmwho know how to install and play tibia in ubuntu?08:05
anacronQuest-Master: have you upgraded your kernel?08:05
dv__its much quicker than nautilus, and more reliable08:05
Quest-Masteranacron: Sure have08:05
anacronthat's weird08:05
_Di42loixiz find them and download them to ~.fonts08:05
anacronsince everything i do in linux is usually faster than doing it in windows08:05
_Di42looops08:05
Quest-MasterI've had this problem from as far back as I remember, I just put up with it till I reinstalled Windows and noticed the speed differences08:05
_Di42lomy xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?08:05
wilhelmwho know how to install and play tibia in ubuntu?08:06
Quest-Masterwilhelm: Google?08:06
anacronwilhelm: google08:06
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anacron:D08:06
wilhelm;/08:06
Quest-MasterSo yeah.. sadly, I haven't used Ubuntu once during the summer08:06
anacronwilhelm: you can try also with apt-cache search tibia08:06
wilhelmi thought u tell me08:06
wilhelm;/08:06
Quest-Masterwilheelm: asking every other minute won't help08:06
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anacronwilhelm: what's the meaning of life?08:07
jatoshi08:07
anacronand don't say it's 4208:07
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Quest-Mastermicrosoft_bob rofl08:07
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dv__hmm08:07
dv__microsoft08:07
zetorhehe08:07
_Di42lomy xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?08:08
dv__this reminds me of "you've got questions. we've got dancing paperclips."08:08
Quest-MasterI hate Microsoft with a passion, but currently, their OS loads apps. faster than Ubuntu :(08:08
onurHello, my wireless connection is occasionally cut down without any reason how can i fix it ?08:08
dv__Quest-Master, well they got some things right08:08
anacron_Di42lo: try to install something like xserver-xorg08:08
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dv__directx9, VS, .net08:08
Quest-Masteronur: Does this happen while running large downloads or using a P2P program like Bittorrent?08:09
Quest-Masterdv__: I dislike their policies a lot08:09
zetordv__::-)08:09
f_newtonQuest-Master, I have to say I have not experienced you load up times in either windows or unbuntu.  Ive found ubuntu to load much faster the every os Ive used to date.  Also, as far as windows load times go, that depends entirely on what you already have running.  Check your processes.   Yes from a cold start gnome and assorted gui apps take a couple of seconds longer but not as dramatic as you suggest...  If you system is freezing I suggest you look in08:09
f_newtonto the possible causes noting that this is in no way a usual scenario08:09
onurQuest-Master, no i just leave the computer for a while and when i get  back i realied the connection went off08:09
sJaMI have to agree with f_newton, if you are running windows for a few hours intensively08:10
onurrealized*08:10
sJaMperformance rapidly decrease08:10
Quest-Masterf_newton: There a number of threads with the exact same symptoms I am having on the UbuntuForums.. also some threads on the mailing list08:10
Quest-Masteronur: Odd.08:10
dv__their policies are a pest, yeah08:10
onurQuest-Master,  and i have used Suse with this comp, never such thing happened08:10
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Quest-Masteronur: Using ndiswrapper?08:11
dv__f_newton, one thing windows can do better is the responsiveness08:11
dv__not a lot better though08:11
rekaQuest-Master: OOI, what kernel are you using?08:11
onurQuest-Master, just freshed installed Ubuntu, should i ? cause wireless is mostly working08:11
dv__they run the GUI in their own threads08:11
f_newtonwell I would look at the threadcalls in comparison with your processor/memory scheduling.  I would do two things right off the bat... 1. check to see memory is quality not kmart brand 2.  upgrade to at least 512meg08:11
dv__which helps reducing the latency08:11
Quest-Masteronur: No need then..08:11
f_newtonsomething else to check is conflicts08:12
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Quest-Masterreka: 2.6.10-5-686, I believe08:12
f_newtondv thats because they are pre set to run08:12
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dv__a GUI thread runs in background,08:12
dv__and reacts to input08:12
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MyLeftNutIs www.ubuntuforums.org down for anyone else?08:12
dArtagnanthing might be that windows preloads a lot of programs08:12
dv__which is better than having the GUI running in sync with the app08:12
_Di42lomy xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?08:12
dv__yes, windows preloads lots of stuff08:13
rekaMyLeftNut: yes. me too.08:13
dv__but it doesnt have as much layers as an X11 app has to use08:13
f_newtonWhen it comes to actual completion of tasks (for me) linux outperforms windows on stability, speed, and security.  Now like they say on tv these times may vary08:13
onurMyLeftNut, yes me too08:13
patrick__i need help with my sources list08:14
onurHello, my wireless connection is occasionally cut down without any reason how can i fix it ?08:14
f_newtonif windows workd better for me I'd use it, believe me... I am not some paranoid skitz that thinks an os is out to get me08:14
MyLeftNutOkay, I feel somewhat lost without it08:14
f_newtonI own close to ten grand of win software but I use linux08:14
f_newtongo figure08:14
patrick__is it possible to modify the list, so that it lists automatically any updates on openoffice.org?08:14
Kyralonur, its prolly just flux08:14
Kyralit happens to me all the time08:14
onurKyral, can you justify it ?08:15
Keeganhow do I use SUDO? And how are applications installed on linux?08:15
patrick__ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/ <-- like that site?08:15
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KyralIts just the signal08:15
f_newtononu or cell phone/wireless base phone interference08:15
Quest-MasterOh well08:15
avokadoi have used synaptic to install firestarter, but i cant get it started ,this i what i get:  A proper configuration for Firestarter was not found. If you are running Firestarter from the directory you built it in, run 'make install-data-local' to install a configuration, or simply 'make install' to install the whole program.but i dont know how to do it08:15
Quest-MasterMaybe Breezy will do better with GCC408:15
KyralI know that for me its because I'm in a house thats non too conductive to WiFi08:15
dv__hmm08:15
dv__the kernel got some realtime patches08:15
onurKyral, i was using Suse for this comp, and windows earlier, never happened such thing before with this distance08:15
dv__lets see how this performs in the wild08:16
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dv__whether it really helps reducing latency08:16
onurKyral, and the only way i can correct is reboot08:16
rekaKeegan: you use sudo whenever you need to do a 'priveliged' action....you can install programs using apt-get /aptitude or the GUI program synaptic:08:16
KyralThat I don't know08:16
reka!synaptic08:16
ubotuI heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:16
f_newtonQuest-Master, if you can show me some actual processor runtime logs I can look at them.  I know that is kind of a lot to ask and probably unreasonable but without the actual data I can only surmise from my experience and your description08:16
Kyralif you wanna try to deactivate the interface then reactivate it08:16
Kyralit works for me sometimes08:16
onurKyral, doesn't for me08:16
f_newtononur change the channel to two from six08:17
Quest-Masterf_newton: Where would these be stored?08:17
patrick__is it impoosible?08:17
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onurf_newton, from the router ?08:18
f_newtonyou would actually have to install an independent monitor ... I think windows has an old one for early ntfs 5 that u can use on xp systems08:18
dv__ubuntu uses kde3.4?08:18
f_newtononu on your wifi card And the router08:18
avokadocan somebody help me whit firestarter08:18
microsoft_bobgo prodigy!!!!08:18
f_newtonkubuntu does I hear08:18
f_newtonubuntu uses gnome08:18
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zetordv__:kubuntu08:19
jms_hi08:19
dv__yes, kubuntu08:19
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MyLeftNutIs there a way of installing KDE alongside GNOME, and if I do whats the method of changing from oe to the other08:19
mjrMyLeftNut, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and you can pick one when logging in08:20
rekaavokado: i'm not familiar with the app, but how are you trying to run it?08:20
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MyLeftNutNice one, cheers08:20
rekaMyLeftNut: what mjr said.  just choose your DE from the sessions menu08:20
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MyLeftNutNice one, thanks08:20
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MyLeftNutAnd is that the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu, or is there more to it?08:20
shackanfirefox doesn't display fonts anymore!08:21
f_newtonpersonally Quest-Master I think you may be experiencing the result of components getting too hot or too much wintel instruction set interference08:21
mjrMyLeftNut, that is the only one08:21
Quest-Masterf_newton: dunno.08:21
rekaisn't their package manager different?08:21
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f_newtondo remember the celeron is not a performance model08:21
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shackanI've read someone had firefox fonts disappear after upgrading X, but I didn't do that08:21
dv__celeron is an overclocker chip08:21
f_newtonand with only 256meg memory your are straining the system with a modern kernel08:22
dv__a russian roulette overclocker chip08:22
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MyLeftNutAhh yes, one last thing. I followed the instructions on Ubuntuforums about getting Thunderbird to integrate with Firefox by making the firefox-mailto-fix.sh and using the about:config addition, but clicking on mailto links just does nothing08:22
f_newtondv__, celeron is a crippled chip, intentionally, the l2 cache is drastically reduced08:22
dv__things run OK08:22
topylii just found out cedega now supports worms armageddon. i also found out you can get cedega for free from the cvs. anybody tried to build it?08:23
avokadoreka: i  have used synaptic, but cant get it started08:23
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onurlet me tell you a story08:23
rekaMyLeftNut: sys > prefs > preferred apps > mail reader perhaps?08:23
xmen90sfor the love of all that is holy ... someone please help me! :@08:23
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onurTanzan and Ekido were once traveling together down a muddy road. A heavy rain was still falling. Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash, unable to cross the intersection.08:24
f_newtonI am concerned with the two reports today of gnome freezing08:24
rekaavokado: yes, but how are you trying to start firestarter?08:24
avokadonot the proper configurations it says, i can copy the error message so you can see what it says when i trie to open firestarter08:24
f_newtonI am a dedicated gnomeuser and I want to know what happened08:24
xmen90si haven't been able to connect to the internet on ubuntu and i installed it like 5 days ago, ive been trying to get connected but with no luck08:24
onurCome on, girl" said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried her over the mud. Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging temple.08:24
xmen90sive followed all the tutorials i can find, but nothing seems to be working08:24
anacroncan i resize "unix resolution" somehow, like in gentoo?08:24
avokadoi double klick on the icon08:24
rekaanacron: define resize08:25
onurThen he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't go near females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is dangerous. Why did you do that?"08:25
onurI left the girl there, said Tanzan. Are you still carrying her?08:25
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alex11the debian unstable in ubuntu is Breezy ?08:25
djpthis is my custom command for my preferred mai reader "emacs %s -q --no-site-file -l "~/.emacs-mailto" -f "foobar/mailto""... ;)08:25
avokado(firestarter:8043): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:08:25
avokadoAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.08:25
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onurreka,  ?08:26
avokadoA proper configuration for Firestarter was not found. If you are running Firestarter from the directory you built it in, run 'make install-data-local' to install a configuration, or simply 'make install' to install the whole program.08:26
avokadothis is what i get08:26
f_newtonreka this isnt soap opera hour... and while I can appreciate you having yer personal interests the rest of us may not08:26
f_newtonuh sorry reka08:27
f_newtonuno08:27
f_newtonunurf08:27
f_newtonargh!!08:27
rekaavokado: then, going by the error message, i'd run 'make install-data-local' ... i'm not 100% certain though.08:27
f_newtonu n u r08:27
MyLeftNutreka: Cheers man, you lot (The whole ubuntu support group) are amazing08:27
xmen90s......08:27
avokadowhere do i write that, int terminal?08:27
rekaavokado: yes08:28
rekaavokado: you might possibly need to use sudo, if you are denied permission.08:28
rekaactually....08:28
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topylialex11: it's more like experimental ATM i think :)08:28
rekai think that assumes you built it from source08:28
rekahence the 'from the directory you built it in'08:29
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alex11how can upgrade only a package ?08:29
MyLeftNutAhh, one last thing, I found kdocker but I'm looking for something with a GNOME flavour. I want to dock my thunderbird client in the statusbar08:29
topylialex11: apt-get install will install the latest version08:30
avokadoi am new at this, not in root terminal, but just terminal... and i doesnt have to write anything else than make install-data-local.....not cd or apt or anything else08:30
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AlexMBassomeone here from the pt-BR translation team?08:31
f_newtonQuest-Master, so far ive only found the standard sandra processor test/display program but Im still looking08:32
avokadoreka, do you speak norwegian08:32
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f_newtonQuest-Master, do you have another machine and a loopback cable?08:32
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patrick__how is the install tool called08:35
patrick__dpkg?08:35
patrick__gptg08:35
patrick__kptg08:35
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patrick__????08:35
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Keegan_I am trying to get my wireless card to work08:35
Keegan_I have attempted to follow steps as per ubuntu wiki08:36
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Keegan_but when I enter sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says this action is not permitted. HELP!08:36
patrick__crap08:36
patrick__how can i install tar.gz files with ubuntu?08:36
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patrick__OOo_SRC680_m122_sk_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz <--08:36
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avokadoi need to know exactly what to write in terminal. to get firestarter going, from the smallest detail,08:38
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patrick__c'mon guys... whats the dump command to install tar.gz :(08:40
jhaasudo firestarter08:40
f_newtondump command?08:41
f_newtonI use tar -zxvf (whatever file name)08:41
wilhelmwho kn ow how to install wine08:41
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adkinsjpatrick: tar -zxvf filename.tgz08:42
patrick__what does tar?08:42
f_newton1. unscrew cap 2. insert in oral cavity, 3. invert08:42
patrick__installs it or will it unpack it?08:42
adkinsjtar unzip's it "so to speak"08:42
f_newtontar identifies the function08:42
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f_newtonits a tar file08:42
patrick__ubuntu is really outdated :(08:42
patrick__openoffice 1.1.3 O_o08:42
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f_newtona tar ball from the ol unix tape archive file days08:42
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patrick__1.1.5.x is the newest08:43
wilhelmwho know how to install wine ?? msg me prv08:43
topylipatrick__: that's what was latest when this stable distribution was released08:43
f_newtonpatrick__, Ooo 1.3 is stable.  I for one appreciate tjat08:43
f_newtonuh that08:43
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patrick__1.1.5 is the altest stable08:43
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Elrohirhow do I change the fonts used by X?08:44
wilhelmwho know how to install wine ?? msg me prv08:44
patrick__and 1.9.122 is the latest beta08:44
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patrick__not 1.1.7908:44
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minkis ubuntuforums down?08:44
adkinsjmink: yes08:44
topylipatrick__: feel free to get the latest from ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m122/Build-1/08:44
minkdoh08:44
rob_pmink:  must be... I can't get to it either!08:44
f_newtonpatrick__, if you want bleeding edge use fedora 408:44
topylipatrick__: pavel always has the latest builds08:44
patrick__topyli, there i got it08:44
minkanyone know if its possible to do an install if were behind an NT proxy ?08:44
patrick__but i fail to install it08:44
f_newtonif you want stability in a deb environ use ubuntu08:44
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patrick__becuase its a tar.gz and not a deb08:44
StormxHey08:44
minkbecause the apt-get part in the start doesn't work08:45
patrick__i have no idea how to deal with targz :(08:45
wilhelmwho know how to install wine ?? msg me prv08:45
minkpat - tar -zxvf08:45
topylipatrick__: there are debs08:45
patrick__where?08:45
f_newtontopy08:45
topylipatrick__: oh, they are buried in a tarball of course :)08:45
Stormxwilhelm, I can help.08:45
f_newtontopyli, he still needs to run ./install script08:45
minkanyone? can we do a install with a NT proxy ?08:45
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topylif_newton: no08:45
Elrohirhow do I change the default font used by X?08:46
topylif_newton: pavel makes nice debs and rpms08:46
f_newtontopyli, unless OOo has changed their process08:46
patrick__what do u mean with tarball?08:46
topylipatrick__: a gzipped tarball: .tar.gz08:46
f_newtonno some tarballs only unpack to reveal installers08:46
patrick__???08:46
patrick__slow...08:46
f_newtonsome tarballs unpack and install08:46
patrick__what have i to do first08:46
topylif_newton: this reveals a bunch of debs08:46
f_newtonah ok08:46
f_newtonmust be a different site08:47
f_newtonnot the OOo site08:47
patrick__where is a tutorial for this?08:47
topylipatrick__: go to the link i gave08:47
f_newtonpatrick__, man tar08:47
f_newtonor man tgz08:47
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f_newtonor tar -h08:47
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topylipatrick__: get the native_LInuxIntel_install._deb.tar.gz08:47
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sunhow can i install breezy kernel into hoary?08:47
KeeganWf_newton: would u give link again, I didn't get it08:47
Elrohirhow do I change the fonts used by X?08:47
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patrick__there is no german08:48
patrick__i need de_08:48
f_newtonKeeganW, what link was that>?08:48
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jbloudg20hey i have a few questions... maybe someone can help me? I am trying to get my chaintek av710 to work... how would I go about that?08:48
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KeeganWf_newton: the link you were discussing with patrick, about installing software from tar.gz08:48
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topylipatrick__: download the nativeLInuxINstall.deb.tar.gz or such, and find a de language pack from the langpacks_deb directory08:49
Elrohirhow do I change the default font used by X?08:49
f_newtonI was just telling him to man tar or tgz what ever it is.... or tar -h08:49
seliniumHI all, how can i play midi .mid files?08:49
f_newtontar files are so easy to unpack08:49
patrick__ok08:49
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f_newtontar -zxvf (filename)08:49
Elrohirtar -zxvf <tar file name>08:49
KeeganWf_newton: after they are unpacked, is the .bin the equivalent to and .exe installer?08:50
topylif_newton: see the site i linked to above. pavel rocks so hard i can't sleep :)08:50
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patrick__????08:50
RapaportMis this the place to come for install help?08:50
patrick__whats next08:50
patrick__i have dl a sk_native...08:50
patrick__and the german translation08:50
jbloudg20can anyone help me install my soundcard?08:50
Elrohirhow do I change the default font used by X?08:50
sunhow to use dpk-reconfigure to rebuild kernel?08:50
patrick__argh... x-chat's colorsetting is confusing me08:50
patrick__next thing i install will be opera08:51
Elrohirusa GAIM on IRC protocol...08:51
topylipatrick__: sk? i always get the en_US native and a fi langpack, but maybe it doesn't matter08:51
KeeganWis anyone here familiar with ndiswrapper?08:51
topylias long as you have the langpack08:51
f_newtonpatrick__, settings/preferences/textbox/strip mirc colors08:51
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patrick__ok08:51
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topylipatrick__: now, double click those tar.gz files and extract them. you'll end up with a bunch of debs08:52
f_newtonI need coffee...08:52
Doonzwhats the command to see the bw through my network card?08:52
KeeganWwhen I enter sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, I get the error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted08:52
Elrohirhow do I change the default font used by X?08:52
KeeganWwat in the world is going on here?08:52
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cikilinit is posible to make hoary became a server with 50 computers conected on it?08:53
topylicikilin: sure08:54
RapaportMcan anyone troubleshoot an install error?08:54
patrick__test08:54
patrick__x-chat didtn changed08:54
patrick__neither links are highlighted nor my nick color is changed08:54
patrick__grey on greuy... i barely see my own nick08:54
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Elrohirhow do I change the default font used by X?08:54
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KeeganWit appears that sudo is installed, but it will not let me edit any of the files that I need to08:55
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Elrohirpatrick__: use GAIM on IRC protocol...08:55
jbloudg20is anyone using an mx1000? how did you get all of your buttons to work?08:56
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jbloudg20oh and where is xmms installed?08:56
Elrohiron terminal: whereis xmms08:56
jbloudg20thanks08:56
Seveazor: which xmms08:56
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Bateauif i want to play music off a radio (internett radio) what program do i use? (if the radio have *.pls files)08:56
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SeveazBateau, beep-media-player or xmms08:57
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Bateauxmms didnt work :/08:57
RapaportMcan anyone help troubleshoot the Pivot_root error?08:57
Wegghey. . . I'm trying to build a Raid5 on my Ubuntu box and I can't seem to find an easy way to do it.  In Mandrake there is DiskDrake which makes it happen in a few clicks. . . but I can't find any "easy" way to do it in Ubuntu. . .  can anyone help?08:57
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Bateauwhere can i get beep-media-player?08:57
ElrohirBateau: Applications > Audio & Video > Music Player08:57
Bateauoh08:57
SeveazRapaportM, homegrown kernel?08:57
Bateauthat didnt work either08:57
RapaportMno08:57
Bateautried that one08:58
deprave_Bateau : bmp didn't work?08:58
RapaportMor yes, i suppose. its the Kernel on the install CD08:58
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Bateaunope08:58
SeveazBateau, ehich radio station?08:58
Seveazwhich*08:58
Bateauwww.di.fm08:58
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BateauVocalTrance08:58
Bateau:P08:58
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Seveazurl?08:58
rob_newbiei am having problems with beep media player it is not playing anything.  I did get the codacs as instructed by the ubuntu unofficial guide.  anyone else have the same experence and know what I should do?08:58
Seveazrob_newbie: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound08:59
RapaportMSeveaz, i did an expert intall for a external USB install but received the pivot_root error08:59
Seveazrob_newbie, and I hope you didn't use ubuntuguide that much08:59
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Seveazit sucks08:59
shidoI love ubuntu... i run xp in a nice little window now (vmware) where it should be08:59
Weggno gui tools for Raid5?08:59
SeveazRapaportM, hmm, maybe the USB stuff did not get in the initrd....08:59
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{cYanide}er does anyone have a link to help on installing gdm themes?08:59
Seveazart.gnome.org/faq.php09:00
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Seveaz^-- {cYanide}09:00
bytefoodoes anyone know the new name of kerberos?09:00
bytefoocan't seem to install krb5-user ;X09:00
patrick__now i have upacked them09:00
rob_newbieSeveaz: Thanks Ill give that a try.  As for the guide I am using it very little.  Only when it is reccommeded by someone who used it succesfully.09:00
bytefooor perhaps a repo where it is located09:00
patrick__whats next?09:00
RapaportMseveaz, thats what i think. i had an issue at the end of my install i tried to /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda0, but it wouldnt recognize it09:00
StormxDid you guys know that ubuntu backwards is Utnubu?????09:00
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KyralYes09:01
Seveazbytefoo, apt-cache search krb09:01
rob_newbieThanks09:01
Kyralinfact there is a project called that09:01
bytefooyeah i know, it's not there though09:01
bytefooperhaps i have to enable universe09:01
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Seveasbytefoo, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/97809:02
patrick__whats the next step to install OOo209:02
D3athevening09:02
WeggI guess I'm looking for Drakxtools.  . ..  does anyone know about setting up raids?09:02
patrick__do i need a script09:02
Seveaspatrick__, apt-get install openoffice.org209:02
Dr_MelectausDoes anyone know where i can get some winamp .EQF files for Beep media player ?09:02
jbloudg20i still cant find xmms... im in kde right now, and I cant get it to work. But I know that it works fine in gnome09:02
deprave_what would i query to apt-get install traceroute?09:02
patrick__no.. not the one from the sources.list, Seveas09:02
Seveaspatrick__, ah09:03
patrick__i just downloadet the m122 release09:03
Seveasdeprave_, mtr09:03
patrick__and unpacked it09:03
Dr_Melectausdeprave_,  go to aps>system>network tools09:03
Seveasdeprave_, mtr <-- it's a packagename09:03
bytefooyeah seveas, i didnt have all that09:03
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bytefooi had about 7 packates :X09:03
Seveasbytefoo, yeah enable universe :)09:03
deprave_seveas thanks09:03
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bytefoo;] 09:03
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D3athcan someone help me pls ... i have a live cd of ubuntu 4.10 .. i can get the screen refresh rate to go down .. when i boot from the cd i go the 800x600 way but stil whn the boot screen comes on (when x-server strarts ) i just get garble09:04
Bateauhmm, no sound from the radio station. it says "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg"09:04
KyralD3ath, well first off, get 5.0409:04
D3athlike in win when the screen reselution is to high09:04
StormxD3ath: It hasn't properly configured your graphics card then.09:05
Ju1ceBateau: Have the codecs?09:05
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D3athya well i am waiting for it in the mail09:05
StormxBateau, what program are you using?09:05
RapaportMcan anyone help me figure out my initrd.img issue regarding pivot_root and a kernel panic09:05
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Stormxkernel panic is funny09:05
BateauJu1ce: where can i get that? and how do i install?09:05
Stormxit's only happened to me once.09:05
RapaportMkernel panic sucks09:05
D3athStormx: i have an nvidia ..09:05
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BateauStormx: the one that comes with Ubuntu.. :P bmp or what ever09:06
D3athriva tnt209:06
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StormxBareau: Hmm09:06
eriscohow do I share a folder over my windows network with ubuntu?09:06
Ju1ceBateau: apt-get install ffmpeg09:06
patrick__is there a way to install all debs of the folder in one step?09:06
StormxBateau: What is its name, a couple come with it.09:06
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Stormxpartick__ yes, think so. Hang on.09:06
patrick__how?09:06
Stormxdpkg -i *.deb09:07
rob_newbieBeep Media Player shows in preferences>plugins>Media no support for mp3 or streaming audio.  Any suggestions as where I can get them?09:07
topylipatrick__: dpkg -i *.deb09:07
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rob_perisco:  samba09:07
Stormxpatrick__ in terminal, go to the folder and use dpkg -i *.deb09:07
D3athStormx:  so it is the best to wait til the new version comeas?09:07
patrick__dpkg -i /folder/ *.deb?09:07
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weejamerdoes anyone know anything about mounting a Fat32 drive that is attached to a raid controller09:07
topylipatrick__: yes09:07
StormxD3ath: what version are you on?09:07
D3ath4.1009:07
D3aththat is what it sayes on the cd09:08
StormxD3ath: Upgrade?09:08
PegaHmm. so you can install .debs with like... one dpkg command??? It is certainly not that I would have been googling for onver a hour thro FAQs about installing .debs... :S09:08
WeggI'm trying to figure out how to mount a raid in Ubuntu weejamer09:08
BateauStormx: the Language of my Linux is in Norwegian.. so i dont think the name is the same in english :)09:08
D3athno full version09:08
topylipatrick__: except you have an extra space there: use dpkg -i /folder/*.deb09:08
StormxYes09:08
BateauStormx: so saying its name, will tell you nothing :P09:08
Stormx;-) I almost feel helpfull09:08
weejamerwhat raid controller do you have?09:09
StormxBateau: OK then. I'm not sure, you may need a codec called mpg12309:09
Bateauok, where and how can i get that?09:09
Ju1ceapt-get?09:09
StormxBateau: Go to the BMP website, it should be a plugin i'd imagine09:09
seliniumHI all, how can i play midi .mid files?09:09
D3athStormx:?09:10
Bateauapt-get what?09:10
Stormxselinium: I think theres a plugin for xmms which does that09:10
StormxBateau: Let me find the site. You need MP3 support, right?09:10
Bateauyeah09:10
Dr_MelectausDoes anyone know where i can get some winamp .EQF files for Beep media player ?09:10
Bateauthanks :D09:10
Ju1ceI installed all the codecs which ubuntuguide told me to.09:10
seliniumStormx: I think i have downloaded all the xmms plugins.... But i will look again! Cheers09:11
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djpselinium: you need to adjust the playback codec option in xmms if i'm not mistaken09:11
Stormxselinuim: Wait09:11
Stormxselinium: I was mistaken, MIDI support is an idea for XMMS209:11
D3athantother time ppl09:11
D3athnice eve09:11
D3athStormx" thank for da help09:12
Stormxselinium: I'm not sure. Maybe use synaptic and in advance run a search for "mid"09:12
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StormxOK09:12
StormxWho else needs helping?!09:12
dv__me!09:12
StormxSeveas is gonna kick my ass for being so damn helpfull09:13
dv__i need money!09:13
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djptimidity is godd for .nid supprot09:13
StormxMoney and beer for all!09:13
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djpgood/support... jeez i can't type today! ;)09:13
steven.09:13
weejameranyone know about Gigabyte C09:13
weejamerGA7 n400pro raid with linux09:13
f_newtonStormx, im thet=re!09:13
Stormxf_newton: What?09:14
f_newtonim there!09:14
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dv__Stormx, you forgot the hot chicks...09:14
StormxOh ye09:14
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nocloudi've got a question...is it possible to have a dual boot system with ubuntu and windows?09:14
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Stormxnocloud: Yes09:14
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f_newtonof course it is...09:14
dv__uh yeah09:14
dv__thanx09:14
dv__:] 09:14
Ju1ceI have a dualboot like that.09:14
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Stormxnocloud: Its very easy, I can help you, if you can't do it.09:15
nocloudhow do you set up the dual boot?09:15
StormxI'm currently quadruple booting ;-)09:15
stevenwow, i just started using ubuntu... its awsome09:15
Stormxnocloud: run the ubuntu installer09:15
f_newtonpersonally I cant find a reason for it, but...09:15
StormxHang on...09:15
steventype expert at install09:15
dv__f_newton: games09:15
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dv__and no, cedega is not enough.09:15
f_newtonah well that must be why... I dont play game09:16
f_newtons09:16
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Badcelhi can somenone tell me, what I have to do, to download a specific directory (with subdirectorys) from a server with wget?09:16
Stormxnocloud: private message me.09:16
dv__i mostly use windows for cross-platform development and games09:16
weejamercan anyone help with raid?09:16
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Ju1cewindows for cross-platform development o_O09:16
mark`hello i had a question regarding gtk+ in ubuntu09:16
dv__uh...09:16
f_newtonwget (name)\09:16
mark`i can't find the package with apt-cache search09:17
dv__well, for developing the win32 platform stuff :)09:17
djpi use the xbox, gamecube, dreamcast, n64 and saturn for games! ;)09:17
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dv__djp, havent seen half-life 2 for these.09:17
dv__or deus ex.09:17
dv__or ......09:17
dv__:)09:17
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weejameri use a windows pc for games09:17
f_newtonIf i need a winapp I use cxoffice09:17
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dv__photoshop works with crossover, yeah09:18
topylif_newton: if i need a windows app i use windows :)09:18
weejameror vmware?09:18
patrick__dv__, as fast as in windows or osx?09:18
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patrick__that sounds nice09:18
f_newtonsorry to hear that topyli09:18
f_newtonlol09:18
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djpdv__: well i can forgo those for a good old blast at metroid prime and zelda! ;)09:18
Ju1cei use linux for cross-platform development - 'cause I use wxwidgets and not winapi09:18
dv__dont know, parabolize09:18
dv__patrick__,09:18
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dv__never used it :)09:18
djpdv__: though in all fairness, those games do look the biz09:18
patrick__gimp is to weak...09:18
patrick__:(09:18
eruinwhat's the language select command thats supposed to be in system->administration in breezy now?09:19
dv__djp, heh09:19
dv__anyway, gotta go09:19
weejamerdoes anyone can deal ith raid09:19
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dv__bye09:19
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f_newtonpatrick__, you are obviously uneducated on the subject09:19
f_newtonno offense09:19
djpdv__: trouble is they do need a massive investment to get the full glory... my old pc would never do them justice09:19
djp:(09:19
topylif_newton: hide a windows box under the desk or in the nearby closet and VNC into it. it's the ultimate windows emulator :)09:20
f_newtonI have a windows box hidden in the dumpster out back, but ive not needed to vnc into it yet09:20
bytefoohow does one tell the package version via the apt-cache command09:21
holycowJu1ce i use linux for cross-platform development - 'cause I use wxwidgets and not winapi  <-- that should save you a lot of effort indeed09:21
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topylif_newton: i also got rid of it (gave it to the lady). i realized it's been too long since i needed it. i only miss worms armageddon :)09:21
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juancarlosz_ #ubuntu-es09:22
f_newtondont play games dont need games... my kids on the other hand...09:22
ripkunis there some command to deleate folders from the usr dir? I can't ubuntu isn't giving me the option to toss them to the bin09:22
AlexMBassomeone here from the pt-BR translation team?09:22
hyphenatedripkun: why do you feel the need to mess with stuff in there?09:22
f_newtonBadcel, try man wget then09:22
ripkunI was instaling mplayer09:23
ripkunand I made a mess09:23
ripkun=P09:23
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bytefooehhh >_<09:23
f_newtonBadcel, you can also google wget for more information09:24
f_newtonbut its pretty straight forward09:24
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StormxHELLO!09:24
StormxI am back09:24
nJesswget http://f_newton.s.mother09:24
Stormxwho need's help ;-)09:24
nJess:P09:24
Stormxrofl.09:24
equexcan anyone tell me why my keyboard is skipping keys and locking up and the scroll lock key is flashing ?09:24
f_newtonlol yeah go ahead dig her up...09:24
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hyphenatedripkun: from source?09:25
f_newtonyou'll probably get the ol man by mistake though09:25
tbasteni am having troubles mounting a cd5 of the halflife 2 serious. it comes up wiht nothing beeing on it when there is. when i mount it i get this message "mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only"09:25
raphaIs there any C-based (unlike Azureus, which uses Java) BitTorrent server, or even better, is there some download mechanism that checksums WHILE downloading?09:25
ripkunit's usr/local/share09:26
nJessf_newton, i feel shame :(09:26
bytefooare the ubuntu forums down09:26
f_newtonyes you should actually09:26
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f_newtonbut hey its ok09:26
Ju1cebytefoo: I noticed the same09:26
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bytefootrying to figure out how to install just this one package from breezy :-/09:26
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bytefoosince it's needed for authentication in a win2k3 domain :X09:27
noclouddoes anybody know if ubuntu can support the intel 915 chipset?09:27
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topylidoes someone know an mplayer skin to fit nicely into my desktop? screenshot: http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg09:27
topylimplayer is nice, but the gui is quite horrible btw09:28
tbastenhow do i forcefully unmount a cd properly09:28
deprave_umount /media/cdrom09:28
Madeyewhat do they mean when they say "it works out of the box" ?09:29
bytefoohow do i install winbind 3.0.14a from breezy, and those dependencies, but nothing else from breezy09:29
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w4yne1337what can i do if my alt-gr key is a second alt key09:30
tbastendeprave_, it wont work because its disk5 of a installation which means i need to forcfully unmount it09:30
ripkunso any way to get rid of folders in the usr dir?09:30
nightswimrm09:30
asfrawould a printer driver that is supported by debinan work in ubuntu? (i'm aware of that this might be a stupid question :)09:30
BSG85first time ubuntu installer need help loggin in as root, any help will be much appreciated09:30
BSG85rm -rf <dirname> ripkun09:31
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StormxHey I'm back09:31
Stormxwhere is nocloud?09:31
f_newtonBSG85, use sudo   root is disabled by default09:31
djpBSG85: login as the user you created during install and then use the sudo command at bash prompt when needing root privileges09:31
f_newtonI had to learn that09:31
f_newtonbeen reading up on it too09:31
ripkunmany thanks BSG =)09:31
tbastenwhen i mount a cd it says there is no contents but when i check on another machine its there09:32
f_newtontbasten, more particulars... both linux boxes?09:32
BSG85thanx guys, I figured so much :) btw, this ist he bestest implementation of Gnome I have seen so far.  WTG :)09:32
srodalcan you recommend a graphical FTP program for ubuntu?09:32
bytefooso ahh...no one has any info on winbind or joining an AD domain with ubuntu? :X09:32
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asfrawould a printer driver that is supported by debian work in ubuntu? (i'm aware of that this might be a stupid question :)09:32
Stormxtbasten: Have you tried with more than 1 CD?09:32
f_newtontbasten, what did you use to burn the cd?09:33
Stormxasfra: does your printer not work otherwise?09:33
tbastennah, 1 windows the one i am trying to get working is linux. When i reboot my machine it works. Its just the its cd5 in hl509:33
ablyssis there a way to pipe commands using apt-get? I.e., apt-get update | install ... or do i just do it in two separate commands i.e., atp-get update && apt-get upgrade ?09:33
f_newtonasfra, most likelyu09:33
tbasteni got it working once but i dont know what i did09:33
crimsunablyss: 2 separate.09:33
ablyssty crimsun09:33
f_newtontbasten, did you use the windows stock burner?09:34
f_newtonwhat program did you use?09:34
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tbastencough :P its the original09:34
equexLOOL09:34
asfraStormx: I currently have a driver for it, but hewlett packard make drivers that work with debian and several other distros, just wondering if I could use them. A have an old Hp deskjet 694C09:34
equexmy desktop is scrolling off screen ahah09:34
f_newtonthis is a commercially burned disk?09:35
equexbye bye09:35
tbastenyes09:35
tbastenthe cd works fine09:35
asfraStormx: I meant that I DONT have a driver now09:35
equexi think perhaps kde has a bug09:35
f_newtonkde is a collection of bugs in my opinion.... dont take that seriously09:35
BSG85LOL f-newton :)09:35
Dr_Melectausbollocks09:36
equexhey how do i kill a panel from cmd line09:36
Dr_Melectaussomeone say something, i think ice dc09:36
Dr_MelectausHAH09:36
Dr_Melectausyes09:36
Dr_Melectaushavent etc09:36
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Dr_Melectauscheers equex09:36
tbastenok when i eject i get "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" but it ejects09:36
w4yne1337help my alt-gr key is a second alt key09:36
equexi docked two panels on top of each otherrrrr and every tihng disapeard09:36
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w4yne1337i cant type [] {}09:36
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DaSkreechslapd Is the same as openLDAP?09:37
equexand now my desktop is scrolling off screen while i expand xchats widow09:37
f_newtonthats ok I cant read your l33tsp33k nick either09:37
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wayneunsobetter?09:38
tbastenany ideas?09:38
f_newtonfor me yes but who knows bout anyone else09:38
DaSkreechIf I apt-get slapd I should get an openLDAP config?09:38
BSG85tbasten if you man eject you will see it gives you option to eject various devices09:38
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f_newtonwayne did you pick the proper keyboard entry?09:38
PegaHow do I find out where a game is installed without checking every file in system one by one?09:38
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tbastenman BSG85 i know how to eject09:39
Dr_Melectauscould someone tell me how to install a .rpm file?09:39
eriscohelp! how do I set a user name and password for samba?09:39
f_newtonstep one... install rpm based distro09:39
DaSkreechDr_Melectaus: try alien09:39
eriscoor how can i disable the user name and password?09:39
hyphenatedDr_Melectaus: install redhat or fedora, then do rpm -i thatfile.rpm ;-)09:39
f_newtonDaSkreech, is right  though09:39
BSG85smbpasswd erisco09:40
wayneunsof_newton i have some problem with gnome-settings-daemon09:40
hyphenatederisco: use 'share' instead of 'user' access.09:40
f_newtonwhat problems?09:40
wayneunsoit says an error when gnome is starting09:40
StormxWhat is the error?09:40
f_newtonwhat is the error?09:40
wayneunsoreboot^^09:41
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tbastenusually when i put a cd in it auto mounts, its not doing it09:41
f_newtonwow..09:41
f_newtonbut it loads?09:42
tbasteni have to manually mount it09:42
wayneunsoi have this problem only when i start xorg09:42
Dr_MelectausDaSkreech, whats the syntax for alien ?09:42
f_newtontbasten that cd is probably a feeder cd for the game and is accessed as is needed therefore has no boot up or access signature header09:42
tbastenf_newton, i got it working about 1 hour ago09:43
f_newtonwayne xorg or gnome?09:43
tbastenbut i forgot09:43
wayneunsoxorg09:43
DaSkreechDr_Melectaus: man alien normally helps09:43
f_newtontbasten, I have no idea normally09:43
wayneunsokde has the same problem09:43
DaSkreechFirst few lines are good09:43
f_newtonDr_Melectaus, I used alien -h09:43
wayneunsoThere was an error starting GNOME settings Daemon09:43
bytefoocan anyone tell me how to install a package from breezy (including its dependancies) but not the entire breezy version?!09:44
f_newtonDr_Melectaus, I used alien and it worked well for me09:44
wayneunsoSome things,such as themes,souns, or background settings may not work correctly09:44
wayneunsoThe Settings Daemon restarted too many times09:44
topyliDr_Melectaus: are you sure you have to use an rpm package? alien can produce some weird debs from them09:44
wayneunsoand so on09:44
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Dr_Melectausits rpm, so would it be sudo alien --to-deb (file)09:44
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Dr_Melectausits winamp3 for linux09:44
f_newtonwayneunso, there is definitely an x problem there09:44
DaSkreechYup09:45
f_newtonis your xconf set right?09:45
crimsunbytefoo: you don't want to do that, because packages built on/for Breezy have dependency skew vs. on/for Hoary.09:45
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wayneunsoi think so f_newton09:45
wayneunsoErrorr activatin XKB configuration.09:45
wayneunso*Error09:45
bytefoocrimsun, but i need to do it in order to authenticate users onto this box in a windows 2003 domain09:45
topyliDr_Melectaus: and that would be worth... what? ;-)09:46
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bytefooand winbind 3.0.14a is only available on breezy09:46
f_newtonwayneunso, i hate to tell you this but I have to go to work... I hope someone smarter, better educated, and more experienced then I can help you09:46
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Chaotic_Realitycan someone take a look at this and possibly tell me if you see anything as to why my laptop shuts down within an hour of inactivity inside of ubuntu?  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/98009:46
tbastenum, when i do mount /cdrom the title says its cd1 but when i do sudo mount i the the proper title09:46
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crimsunbytefoo: then grab the orig.tar.gz, the dsc, and the diff, and build it on a Hoary box.09:46
crimsunbytefoo: alternately, look for it in Hoary backports.09:46
bytefooooohh the backports09:47
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StormxChaotic_reality: It probably goes into a kind of hibernation mode, which you're laptop can't handle. I'm gonna have a look into disabling it, hang on.09:47
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Chaotic_RealityStormx: ok. thank you09:47
burnboyymy screen is a bit off center, does anyone know how to fix that?09:47
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f_newtonhit it with a hammer?09:47
burnboyyLOL09:47
bytefooyes excellent it is there :D09:47
burnboyyno i already maxed out the trim on my monitor09:47
StormxChaotic_Reality, go to System > Prefences > Screensaver09:48
f_newtonburnboyy if youve maxed out the trim its more then a little off09:48
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burnboyyoh ya it was WAY off now its just a bit off09:48
tbastenwith the other 4 cds of the installation i used "umount /cdrom -l"09:48
f_newtonhave you dropped this thing recently?09:48
StormxChaotic_Reality: Press the advanced tab09:48
burnboyyno it is dead center for my windows computer09:48
StormxChaotic_Reality: Then disable power management09:48
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burnboyyfor some reason when i installed ubuntu it was way to the side09:48
f_newtonheck I gotta git to work... cant stop to chat ... gonna be late!09:48
six2oneyou have an lcd?09:49
Dr_MelectausShit, someone show me the syntax for converting a .RPM to .DEB, i tried "sudo alien -d (file)09:49
f_newtonburnboy check your video configurationfile09:49
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Dr_MelectausBut that just unzips it to desktop09:49
f_newtongotta run09:49
Chaotic_Realityi'm pretty sure i did that already but i'll check again.  are you going to be around for a bit Stormx?  i'm going to boot back into ubuntu to check on that09:49
burnboyyya it is an LCD09:49
bytefoothanks crimsun09:49
six2oneauto adjust it09:49
BSG85mine was too with my lcd .. you should be able to adjust your xorg.conf09:49
Dr_Melectausohh that worked09:49
StormxChaotic_Reality: I sure am. You should just restart X for the changes to take effect. Ctrl + Alt + Backspace09:49
burnboyyok disabled power managment09:49
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Chaotic_RealityStormx: ok i'll try that. i really hope this works. brb09:50
BSG85if you really want to be lazy, just rem out your vert and horizontal syncs in xorg.conf09:50
Stormxheh.09:51
StormxI'm gonna keep a list of those oh-so-handy commands09:51
BSG85lol09:51
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burnboyystill of center a bit09:52
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KeeganWI cannot get ndiswrapper to work, can anyone help me?09:52
burnboyyi've only been using linux like a few hours now09:52
burnboyyi'm sure there is some easy way to fix this09:52
BSG85you are doing great :)09:52
burnboyywell the GUI interface is very easy09:52
Stormxburnboyy: What is the problem?09:52
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Dr_MelectausIf i have a .DEB package on my desktop, whats the command to install it?09:53
burnboyymy visible desktop is off center, and i have maxed o;ut the trim on my monitor09:53
kungkangDr_Fate: dpkg -i09:53
StormxDr_Melectaus: Hang on....09:53
burnboyyso my little trashcan and some other stuff is off the screeen09:53
StormxDr_Melectaus yeh its dpkg -i <package name>09:53
noclouddoes anybody know about the enterprise edition of ubuntu?  i saw mention of it on the ubuntu site...09:53
KeeganWwhen I type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says that the command is not allowed09:53
Dr_Fatekungkang, wrong Doctor09:53
DaSkreechnocloud: It's one edition09:54
DaSkreechnocloud: Desktop and enterprise are the same09:54
kungkangDr_Fate: ops, sorry!09:54
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tbastensomeone please help me09:54
nocloudahh, thanks for the clarification09:54
tbastenlol09:54
Stormxtbasten: what is the problem?09:54
tbastenmounting issues09:55
topylinocloud: the ubuntu site specifically says there will never be an "enterprise" ubuntu :)09:55
Dr_MelectausStormx, cheers mate09:55
Chaotic_RealityStormx, yeah, the power management enabled box is unchecked so it's already disabled. :/ any other ideas maybe?09:55
Stormxheh09:55
StormxChaotic_Reality: I have no idea.09:55
StormxDr_Melectaus: No problem09:55
DaSkreechtbasten: Have you fallen and can't get mount?09:55
Kyralhmm09:55
BSG85LOL09:55
Stormxrofl!!!!!09:55
StormxxD09:55
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Kyrala mv * .. would move everything in a dir into the one above it, right?09:56
topyliplease don't mount your issues in public09:56
burnboyymy monitor is close to center, it is usable but i don't like it09:56
KyralMOUNT ME BABY!! :P09:56
burnboyyhmmm wonder if screen shot would show how much image was off...09:56
topylino09:56
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SeveasKyral, no09:56
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Stormxburnboyy: LED issues?09:57
Seveasonly the files that don't start with a . are moved09:57
Kyralno the command wouldn't do that?09:57
burnboyyya09:57
tbastenDaSkreech, ok, i can mount the cdrom but i saying that nothing is on it when there is. When i reboot my machine it works but since it is installation cd 5 for halflife 5 i have to manually unmount 4 cds by typing "umount /cdrom -l"09:57
Kyraloh09:57
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Kyralhow would I do it so I move everything up a dir?09:57
burnboyywell this monitor is hooked to two machines, my windows and this one in just turned in to linux09:57
Stormxburnboyy: Have a look in the ubuntu wiki09:57
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bytefoohow do i choose a package that is in the backports over another repository09:57
SeveasKyral, mv * .* ..09:57
burnboyythis is the only one giving me a problem09:57
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burnboyywiki09:57
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MikeWHmm, I'm still getting those 'Error 18's with the grub loader09:58
burnboyyis that an application or admin file09:58
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MikeWI found a debian sarge dvd and I installed that, and I'm getting the exact same error09:58
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StormxMikeW: The partition table may be corrupt.09:58
MikeWIs there some way to get the cd bootloader to boot the linux partition?09:58
KyralSeveas, can you explain how that works? Because its frickin' cool!09:58
StormxMikeW: Run a live CD (knoppix, ubuntu) and use cfdisk09:59
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StormxMikeW: Then press "w" to re-write the partitions09:59
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MikeWStormx: I picked the defaults, and reinstalled several times09:59
voyage34can someone help me with a quick apt-get qusetion?09:59
MikeWStormx: where the defaults were automatically partition the entire hdd09:59
StormxMikeW: I don't know. Have you googled it/10:00
BSG85burnboy .. if you vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look at your resolution setting for your monitor make sure your monitor can handle the resolution it is set to.  Or if there is sync, take those lines out for lcd monitors10:00
MikeWStormx: yes, and it points me back to the ubuntu forums where the quesiton is unanswered10:00
bytefoocrimsun, how does one choose a package in the backports over the lower version package in the standard repositories10:00
MikeWStormx: I get the feeling its a grub problem :/10:00
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burnboyyxorg.conf10:00
burnboyyi'll try to find it10:00
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StormxMikeW: GRUB does its best.10:00
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StormxMikeW: So you can't access any OS's on that system?10:01
patrick__whats the difference between shared woody and shared sarge?10:01
MikeWStormx: linux would be the only os10:01
ediecan anybody help me with my ubuntu?10:01
lonetreehi hi pple10:01
tlord_Hmm. I was just connected / disconnected / reconnected, so in case that didn't get into the channel, I'm going to repeat it ...10:01
BSG85just ask edie :)10:01
StormxMikeW: So surely you wouldn't need a boot loader?10:01
tlord_Ack pfffhht!! Hi, there. I hosed my system (partially), not sure how, but now it won't let me do anything that requires root / superuser, and the system tells me at login eacch time that it cannot look up the internet address of my machine, and that adding this address to /etc/hosts might fix the problem. This is an iBook running hoary. So now I have the Live CD in the drive, hoping that...10:01
topylipatrick__: no sens you make10:01
tlord_...would let me into the live system again (rather than the installed Hoary), but ... it's not starting up from the CD! Ack, again. Why not? :) I'm holding down the "D" key at startup, which I thought was the right key for this. Any clues?10:01
patrick__http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/8.10-Preview-2/1275-20050728-P2BT/intel-linux/en/10:02
ediei wannaask as PM10:02
lonetreejust wanna check if anyone has set up any network that involves ubuntu and some windows system?10:02
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voyage34i have a package that evrytime I apt-get something, it tries to donwload and install but I dont what this package and am wondering how to remove it from the queue.. anyone know how to do this? thanks10:02
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nlDefiant[serv] hiya all10:02
patrick__topyli, which one should i use?10:02
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mpmc:D10:02
topylipatrick__: whatever you do, get the statically linked, not dynamically linked opera. and sarge is more current10:02
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patrick__topl... shared sarge or static?10:03
weejamercan anyone tell me how to mount a raid drive10:03
topylipatrick__: get static, it will surely work10:03
BSG85what is your raid devicename?10:03
ediei wannaask as PM10:04
topylisiikrits10:04
patrick__ok10:04
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lwtrying to VNC to my OS X box..10:04
weejamer IT/ITE 8212 dual channel ata raid BSG8510:04
patrick__whats the difference between the sahred and the static?10:04
lw  True colour: max red 7 green 7 blue 3, shift red 0 green 3 blue 610:04
lwReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream10:05
mpmcwww.cheesynuts.com10:05
mpmclol10:05
lwgetting that error10:05
patrick__does shared use libs that are already in the system?10:05
ediecan anybody help me with my ubuntu?10:05
patrick__edie, simply ask :)10:05
burnboyyhmmm there is no search feature to find xorg.10:05
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ediei wanna ask as PM10:05
lonetreejust wanna check if anyone has set up any network that involves ubuntu and some windows system?10:05
crimsunbytefoo: if it's versioned higher, it's chosen automatically unless you have apt pinning.10:05
mpmcedie: I'll try to help10:05
patrick__edie, i am a noob10:05
topylipatrick__: shared uses the libraries supposedly already on your system (in windows, .DLLs). static comes with all libraries in the package10:05
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weejamercan i PM you BSG8510:06
kamihi10:06
JonnyRoi'm trying to compile a package that is complaining about "undefined reference to NTOHL"10:06
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JonnyRois there a -dev package in ubuntu I can install to resolve this?10:06
bytefoocrimsun, nm, the wiki had the wrong link :|10:06
BSG85vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:06
voyage34anyone?10:06
BSG85and yes weejamer10:06
voyage34i have a package that evrytime I apt-get something, it tries to donwload and install but I dont what this package and am wondering how to remove it from the queue.. anyone know how to do this? thanks10:06
burnboyyi don't have a vi/ dir10:06
tlord_holding down "d" at book on my iBook (running Hoary) does not seem to force it to boot from the internal optical drive. Any ideas why that might be?10:06
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Stormxvoyage34: Run synaptic.10:06
lonetreejust wanna check if anyone has set up any network that involves ubuntu and some windows system?10:07
burnboyyhmmm i'll seach for tutorial10:07
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BSG85yup I have lonetree10:07
topylipatrick__: the problem with shared libraries is you may not have them (since the package is not for ubuntu specifically), and might end up in "DLL hell" :)10:07
Stormxlonetree: No, but I'd imagine they could see eachother, as both systems get internet on my box.10:07
Dr_MelectausWhats a good site for nix themes?10:07
KeeganWwill driver loader work on ubuntu? Can I use this instead of ndiswrapper?10:07
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kamithis is my first time i use linux, and i want to modify GRUB for my windows. how i can do that?10:08
Stormxkami: GRUB should automaticly detect windows10:08
lonetreeBSG85 , do you have problem with timestamp on your network?10:08
lonetreeare you using samba?10:08
Dr_MelectausDoes anyone know a good site for Gnome themes?10:08
tbastenum, when i mount a cd it thinks its a cd that i just took out10:08
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topyliDr_Melectaus: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org10:09
Stormxtbasten: You need to umount it10:09
keith_hey, before i attempt it- is it easy to switch GUIs with ubuntu? i'm thinking of installing fluxbox.10:09
voyage34Stormx: thanks.. so synaptic syncs alongside apt-get?10:09
Dr_Melectauscheers topyli10:09
tbastenits been unmounted10:09
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kamiStormx, my pc now only boots ubuntu, there's no option for change10:09
Stormxvoyage34: Think so. They use the same queue methinks10:09
Stormxkami: Install windows. I'm gonna go have a look for the GRUB settings, i've changed it before.10:10
voyage34Stormx: thanks.. trying it now10:10
BSG85you are absolutely right Stormx :)  .. me think :)10:10
lonetreeBSG85 ? you there?10:10
BSG85yup I am here lonetree :)10:10
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StormxBSG85: I've only been using ubuntu for about 10 hours.10:10
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kamiStormx, i have windows in a partition already10:10
StormxBSG85: And i've helped about 15 people10:10
mark`hi i've been trying to install gkrellm in ubuntu but i keep getting errors, can somebody help me?10:10
Stormxkami: OK, hang on then10:11
BSG85LOL ditto Stormx :)10:11
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linlinHow can i convert a .bin to a .iso for mounting/burning? :)10:11
BSG85been using linux since slackware had a version # but .. first day on ubuntu .. and absolutely LOVE it :)10:11
tbastenOK, i have unmounted the 5th cd for halflife2 and put farcry and mounted it and its saying its hl2 still10:11
mark`anybody?10:11
Stormxkami: Go to /boot/grub/menu.lst10:11
burnboyyonly thing i can change in xorg is the refresh rates10:11
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Stormxmark` - what errors?10:12
kamiStormx ok, just a sec...10:12
mark`says im missing gtk+10:12
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MAPDhey10:12
tlord_keith_: it's easy :)10:12
keith_good to hear.10:13
keith_im gonna be doing that tonight hten10:13
Stormxmark` what program are you using to install it? Try synaptic10:13
keith_any suggestions on which to run?10:13
mark`mm10:13
Stormxhey MAPD10:13
mark`ill give 'synaptic' a try10:13
keith_im leaning towards fluxbox but open for suggestions10:13
Stormxkeith_ - Fluxbox has bad GNOME support, are you on kubuntu?10:13
BSG85you got it burnboyy.. rem out the refresh rates.. then save the file and then do the 3 finger salute .. err.. ctrl alt and backspace10:13
Stormxmark` - Applications > System Tools > Add/Remove programs. Press "Advanced"10:14
mark`Stormx, originally i was doing it by hand since apt-get install gkrellm wasn't found10:14
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ekimushi, i feel the need of trying a new distro. now i was wondering since (k)unbuntu work on the large DEs if there is a way to just have let's say a windowmaker environment without even installing the qt/gtk/kde/gnome stuff initially10:14
burnboyyso set the refresh rates to 0?10:14
kamiStormx: got it10:14
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BSG85no .. just # out the refresh rates all together10:14
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burnboyyoh alright10:14
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burnboyyjust the # symbol in luie of numbers10:15
tbastenThats for the help nerds. next time get a girlfriend10:15
burnboyyi'll probably blow its mine10:15
burnboyyerrr mind10:15
burnboyyhehe10:15
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tlordkeith_: it's easy :)10:16
tlordOnce you install it, the new GUI will be one of the choices you can reach from the Session link at bootup.10:16
keith_realllllllly10:16
keith_is there an apt-get for fluxboxand such?10:16
tlordThat's what I found, anyhow.10:16
lwkeith_: ys10:16
lwyes*10:16
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tlordI have gnome, kde, blackbox, fluxbox ...10:16
lwkeith_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox10:16
tlordAnything I can do, is by definition easy :)10:16
BSG85lol .. no # as the begining of the line with refresh rates10:16
keith_whic do you suggest10:16
keith_and fluxbox returns couldn't find package fluxbox10:16
MAPDgtg10:16
MAPDbye10:16
lwkeith_: i suggest XFCE410:16
keith_xfce4? ill look at it... but fluxbox returned no package10:17
lwyes, xfce4 is my fav10:17
fredforfaenxfce4 rocks10:17
burnboyyhmmmm10:17
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burnboyywhy can't i just set them to 0?10:17
lwkeith_: you need the repositories10:17
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lw!repos10:17
keith_repositories?10:17
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:17
BSG850 is a number .. null is different from 010:17
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lwkeith_: goto that URL10:17
burnboyyok10:17
tlordkeith_: frankly, I just like to switch around among them. the menu config for flubox and blackbox in Ubuntu is lacking IMO compared to that I've seen with other distros, and I am unqualified to play with the menu system.10:18
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BSG85if null .. scan.. if 0 .. value specified10:18
burnboyyso null it shall be10:18
tlordFor that reason, I also like GNOME with Ubuntu; it's built well around it.10:18
tlordKDE works great, too.10:18
keith_ooook10:18
synd-KDE is gross.10:18
keith_imma try ths xfce4 you guys suggested10:18
keith_never heard of it10:18
Dr_MelectausWhere is the XMMS skins foldeR?10:18
tlordYes, that's also a nice one :)10:18
burnboyyit says Option "DPMS"10:18
keith_so now what do i do to add the repos?10:18
burnboyywhat is that about?10:18
BSG85this is the best gnome setup I have seen out of the box :)10:18
synd-!repos10:18
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:18
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bediDr_Melectaus: /home/user/.xmms/Skins10:18
synd-go there keith_10:19
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synd-what ubotu said10:19
tlordkeith_: to me, xfce4 is not very visually attractive, but it's well-made otherwise and quite fast / lightweight.10:19
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BSG85Display Power Management Signalling10:19
burnboyyok10:19
Chaotic_Realityi just installed xmms via apt-get but when i open it up and then find an mp3 to play, then hit the play button it freezes up. :/10:19
burnboyyi'll leave that alone10:19
burnboyyhehe10:19
tlordkeith_: And there's no accounting for taste :)10:19
synd-Chaotic_Reality: you need to fix the output plugin10:19
burnboyyhey if i'm not back in a minute its because i put the # in the wrong spot :P10:19
burnboyyhehe10:19
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StormxChaotic_Reality - I HAD THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM10:19
omegHmm10:19
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StormxChaotic_Reality, and guess what10:19
synd-Chaotic_Reality: in xmms's preferences10:20
StormxChaotic_Reality, it was damn easy to fix.10:20
topyliBSG85: yes it is. also, ubuntu releases a new "preview" version of the distro on the same day that a new gnome version comes out :)10:20
eriscohow can I get adobe photoshop 6.0 running on ubuntu?10:20
eriscoit is a windows version10:20
StormxChaotic_Reality, preferences > output plugin. Select eSound10:20
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synd-Chaotic_Reality: you set the output plugin to what your system is using.10:20
Stormxerisco: You need wine.10:20
burnboyyhmmm it wont let me edit it, perhaps because it is running10:20
synd-Stormx: if he is using ALSA, then he needs to choose that and not eSound10:20
omegI'm thinking it might be useful if there's an option to limit the screensaver in CPU power. Like, "only use 20% CPU power". When using a random screensaver, sometimes one is taken that uses too much processing power.10:20
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omegAnd that causes my laptop to start making a lot of nouse.10:20
srodalhmm, I set opera to open files with gnome-open exec, but when I try nothing happens, does anyone know why?10:20
omeg*noise10:21
jatos1hi10:21
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omegerisco: sorry, but you're not going to get Photoshop to run on Ubuntu.10:21
Stormxsynd-, I had the same problem, and on a fresh install, eSound is not selected by default10:21
topylierisco: your best bet is Crossover Office which is a commercial windows api emulator that costs money10:21
Stormxomeg: Shutup!10:21
Stormxomeg: Wrong bitch!10:21
topylierisco: is something wrong with the gimp?10:21
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AndieBHi all... the Ubuntu Linux version 5.04 I've installed is shipped with OpenOffice 1.1.3, english version, I removed it and tried to install the swedish version, 1.1.4, but I didn't work, it asked for the CD and then installed the original version again, what to do?10:21
synd-erisco: The Gimp10:21
synd-end of story10:21
StormxAndieB: There should be swedish language support for it.10:21
omegPardon!10:21
omegOkay, so I'm wrong, but yeah.10:21
omegChill!10:21
Chaotic_RealityStormx, synd-, that did it. thanks :)10:21
burnboyyi don't know i've opend xorg with the text editor but it wont let me make changes10:22
Dr_MelectausI have a folder, and im trying to change the permissions so i can write to it, But it wont let me. Its so i can put a skin in for XMMS plaer10:22
eriscothe gimp? could you elaborate what the gimp is?10:22
Stormxburnboyy, you need to do sudo.10:22
AndieBStormx: Oki, the menus and all?10:22
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omegI'd like to see a screenshot of Ubuntu running Photoshop.10:22
synd-erisco: similar to Photoshot, but OSS10:22
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burnboyywhere is that at?10:22
BSG85sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:22
eriscooh that program10:22
synd-erisco: google it10:22
BSG85you don't have priv to the file10:22
StormxAndieB: Should do10:22
eriscoyes i have it10:22
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eriscowhat about this wine?10:22
burnboyyhmmm10:22
eriscoi know i downloaded one10:23
topylierisco: the GNU Image Manipulating Program. i bet it's already installed on your ubuntu machine10:23
eriscowhat about wine?10:23
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synd-erisco: what about it?10:23
topylierisco: good luck with wine :)10:23
keith_what do i type to download xfce?10:23
synd-wine is not fun10:23
derfdoes anyone know of a way of switching the default outgoing subinterface on an ethernet device to the lowest numbered subinterface instead of the highest humbered subinterface?10:23
Ju1cei bet you can't get photoshop running with wine.10:23
synd-.exe's are not fun10:23
derfs/humber/number/10:23
Stormxsynd-, wine is fun ;-)10:23
Dr_Melectauscould someone help me,I have a folder, and im trying to change the permissions so i can write to it, But it wont let me. Its so i can put a skin in for XMMS plaer10:23
synd-wine sucks10:24
keith_hmmm i did the repository things and it sstill isnt working...10:24
topylierisco: pay codeweavers and buy crossover office, so you can run many windows programs. but really, it's not necessary10:24
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{cYanide}hey er10:24
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synd-keith_: are you typing sudo10:24
{cYanide}is there a way to reinstall the grud bootloader?10:24
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{cYanide}and leave the rest intact10:24
{cYanide}er grub10:24
topyliyes, but it's not straightforward10:24
BSG85use chmod10:24
synd-hmm10:24
{cYanide}er10:24
{cYanide}i cant get into linux10:24
{cYanide}no bootloader10:24
StormxxD10:25
{cYanide}(well i cant, maybe there is a way)10:25
StormxHow did you manage that?!10:25
{cYanide}er10:25
derf{cYanide}: grub-install as root10:25
{cYanide}bad accident with partition magic:/10:25
{cYanide}lol10:25
Stormxrofl.10:25
burnboyyi've been getting to xorg through the file manager10:25
BSG85Dr_Melectaus use chmod to change dir privs10:25
burnboyythere is no sudo vi dir10:25
topyli{cYanide}: in short: boot from a live cd or whatever to get into linux. chroot to your root partition. run grub-install10:25
{cYanide}sh10:25
{cYanide}rt10:25
{cYanide}erm10:25
{cYanide}i have... the install cd10:25
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BSG85burnboyy type .. sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:25
Stormxburnboyy: sudo gedit /path/to/xorg/thefilehere.10:25
AndieBJava Runtime Enviroment, how in the hell do I install that...10:26
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burnboyywhere do you put that at?10:26
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burnboyythere is no command line this is GUI10:26
Dr_MelectausBSG85, how d i do that?10:26
Stormxburnboyy - in terminal.10:26
burnboyyOH10:26
burnboyywell why didn't you say so :P10:26
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burnboyysweet10:26
StormxCause its kinda obvios x.X10:26
Chaotic_RealityIs it possible to change the outgoing port from 25 to something different using Evolution?10:26
Dr_MelectausBSG85, how d i do use chmod to change the dir privs?10:27
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StormxChaotic_Reality, its kinda traditional for mail to be on port 2510:27
Chaotic_Realitynot if you use a major ISP in todays world :/10:27
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BSG85what privs do you watn? if you want to open to all then chmod -R 777 <dirname>10:27
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Chaotic_RealityI could use my ISPs outgoing mail server instead of mine but i'd rather not.  Might have to use thunderbird10:28
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AndieB.10:28
BSG85if you want to learn about chmod goto http://catcode.com/teachmod/  everything u need to know is there10:28
dazjorzbonjour10:29
dazjorzlol10:29
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keith_sorry about that got dced10:29
shawarmaI need help with pbuilder... I want to use it to build a package, but I have another homegrown package that it depends on.. If I use --extrapackages it looks in the relevant repositories, but that's not what I want..10:29
dazjorzsomeone knows about a good unrar program ?10:29
keith_its still saying it cant find the xfce package10:29
dazjorzI used apt-get install unrar10:29
shawarmadazjorz: unrar, perhaps?10:29
synd-keith_: xfce410:29
dazjorzbut it gives me some shitty program that fails unrarring10:29
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shawarmadazjorz: Try rar instead.10:30
dazjorz33 files faile10:30
dazjorzthanks10:30
Dr_MelectausBSG85, im in the dir just down. what the syntax to open it to all users with full permissions10:30
dazjorzYeehaa, it worked ;-D10:30
burnboyyhmmm well it is blank in the terminal and says new file10:30
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dazjorzDammit10:30
BSG85chmod -R 777 <directoryname> that will open it to all10:30
keith_still aint workin10:31
burnboyydo i have to paste my old xorg in there and save somehow?10:31
dazjorznow i've got all these files in my current directory -.-'10:31
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Dr_Melectauscheers BSG8510:31
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BSG85no burnboyy u have a spelling mistake somewhere10:31
BSG85u r most welcome Dr_Melectaus10:31
burnboyyhmmm10:31
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bimberi!java10:31
WoxxyHi there! My father and my half-brother are just starting out with linux and they basically just wants to surf the web, check their e-mail, write some word-documents, look at some .pdfs and listen to music while chatting with friends.  Which dist of ubuntu would be the best?10:31
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.10:31
dazjorzwtf10:31
burnboyyi've tried a few10:31
dazjorzsdl-config: Command not found10:32
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dazjorzgonna apt-get it10:32
burnboyyyou wanted a space at sudo vi/ right?10:32
dazjorzcan't find...10:32
bimberiAndieB: The java install info is in ubotu's post above :)10:32
synd-cant remember, where is sources.list10:32
BSG85okay easier way10:32
Woxxything is, they've been using winxp up until now, but i won't touch that computer anymore cause they always manage to get tons of spyware and viruses.10:32
BSG85type exactly what I type :)10:32
burnboyyLOL10:32
BSG85cd /etc/X1110:32
burnboyyi did before10:32
Woxxyso i decided to install ubuntu for them :)10:32
Woxxyanyone?10:32
icewtWoxxy, err.. the latest release of ubuntu10:32
BSG85when u r in the dir10:32
BSG85type10:32
synd-cant remember, where is sources.list10:32
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{cYanide}im back erm10:33
bimberiWoxxy: This is a funny place to ask :) - ubuntu of course !!!10:33
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Woxxyicewt: kubuntu, edubuntu or just plain ubuntu?10:33
BSG85sudo vi xorg.conf10:33
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Woxxybimberi: yeah, i know i want ubuntu, just not which one of those three10:33
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sunyahoo! i got my Audigy 2 Value soundcard working :)10:33
{cYanide}im not sure how to er start the grub install,10:33
vader1102Woxxy: I have been using Hoary Ubuntu for 2 weeks now and it took very little setup for it10:33
ograWoxxy, you dont want edubuntu :)10:33
{cYanide}all i have is the install cd10:33
burnboyyhmmm10:33
ograWoxxy, its not installable currently10:33
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bimberiWoxxy: k - yes, not edubuntu, but either of the other two and it comes down to personal preferences10:34
Woxxyi've tried kubuntu for a while, but i just think it seems so bloated, but maybe they'll find it easier than gnome10:34
keith_got it to work10:34
keith_thanks guys10:34
{cYanide}so er10:34
{cYanide}how would i reinstall grub again?10:34
Woxxywell... visually, i find gnome more attractive... guess i'll go with regular ubuntu then10:34
burnboyyhah jackpot10:34
darkheartHello. I was trying out vnc on my Ubuntu box and everything seemed to work fine. However, when I logged into the X session, a window popped up saying something about conflicting settings with the X keyboard and gnome keyboard settings or such. I chose to go with the Gnome keyboard. Unfortuantely, when I try to type something in the vnc session, it seems the keys are mapped incorrectly. Where would I go to change that?10:34
BSG85Woot10:34
burnboyythe command lines are a bit different then dos10:34
Chaotic_Realitywhat is the best way to uninstall things?  can you do ap-get uninstall <packagename> ?10:34
Woxxythanks, i was just wondering about edubuntu10:34
{cYanide}_10:35
burnboyyi can't believe you can have spaces in command lines10:35
Stormxhuh?10:35
StormxYou CAN have spaces...10:35
Kyrallike in filenames he means10:35
Stormxyou just need to escape them.10:35
Kyralbut you have to escape him10:35
burnboyyya that is weird10:35
Kyralerr10:35
Kyralthem10:35
darkheartChaotic_Reality It's apt-get remove <packagename>10:35
bimberiWoxxy: edubuntu is oriented towards use in schools10:35
burnboyydos never allowed that10:35
KyralDAMNIT!10:35
BSG85Chaotic_Reality get synaptic if you are new to apt10:35
Chaotic_Realitydarkheart, thanks.10:35
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Chaotic_RealityBSG85, whats that do?10:35
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KyralChaotic_Reality, its the GUI frontend to Apt10:36
Chaotic_RealityBSG85, i understand apt-get, just need to get the syntax of everything down...i'm coming from a freebsd background mostly10:36
BSG85Chaotic_Reality gui interface .. does everything apt does.. only u don't have to worry about corrupting anything10:36
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Kyralcorrupting?10:36
BSG85ooo a fella BSder :) ... WOOT10:36
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Kyralsince when the hell can you corrupt with Apt?10:36
AzmodanIs it possible to make Ubuntu automatically run a command at shutdown ?10:36
topylihow does apt corrupt things?10:36
StormxChaotic_Reality: Use synaptic, you 1338 f0010:37
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BSG85u do .. and it's not nice when the db is corrupt .. then u fix it .. and that's a pain10:37
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StormxxD10:37
Chaotic_Realityis synaptic this software updates icon next to my lan icon and sound at the top right in ubuntu?10:37
KyralNo offense BSG85, but what are you on?10:37
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burnboyyBSG85 well the file opend but it is just an expanation, the xorg.conf doesn't have the refresh rate10:37
burnboyyjust some font stuff and directions to the manual10:38
nJesshow does a gui that still uses the sli program prvent an "error" for the cli program?10:38
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BSG85will it was something very nice :) Kyral  but I am not .. and yes it is possible to mess things up really bad with apt.. it's not something new10:38
nJesscli program810:38
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dazjorzhow do I install the KDE desktop ?10:38
dazjorzjust kubuntu-desktop ?10:38
dazjorzapt-get kubuntu-desktop ?10:38
mabelI want to apt-get install a language pack for mozilla-firefox, but it's not in my repository. What can I do?10:39
Tomcat_dazjorz: Should be it.10:39
Kyralsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:39
Stormxmabel: you can download it as a .deb and isntall it.10:39
Dr_MelectausIs there a Tutorial for installing XMMS skins on ubuntu?10:39
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dazjorzOk.10:39
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Tomcat_Dr_Melectaus: Checked ubuntuforums?10:39
StormxDr_Melectaus: Its easy.10:39
darkheartAnyone have any idea on why the keyboard is mapped incorrectly for my vnc session? (i.e. pushing 'f' output 'h')10:39
Dr_MelectausTomcat_,  good call ;)10:39
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topyliBSG85: well, if you can mess up stuff with apt, then you certainly can do the same with synaptic10:39
crashdhow do you edit the launchbar in metacity?10:40
mabelStormx, how would I install it?10:40
Dr_MelectausStormx,  fancy telling me in pm. i turned the file into a .gz, and put it in th skins dir but that didnt work10:40
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BSG85I totally agree Topyli10:40
Stormxdpkg -i <package name>10:40
StormxWill install a .deb file.10:40
Kyralforgot the sudo10:41
darkheartDr_Melectaus Just throw the skins in your ~/.xmms/Skins folder and that should do it.10:41
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StormxYep darkheart10:41
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topyli:)10:42
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Dr_Melectausk darkheart10:42
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darkheartI use xmms...Get some kind of error when trying to use Rhythmbox about not having anything to decode my mp3s.10:42
crashduse bmp!10:42
synd-topyli: beep media?10:42
crashdit's teh shit ;P10:42
StormxBMP basicly IS XMMS xD10:42
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crashdwell10:42
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crashdxmms with gtk2 ;)10:43
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crashdwhich is far superior10:43
synd-Stormx: not exactly10:43
Stormxsynd-: but pretty close.10:43
topylisynd-: i use rhythmbox mostly, but muine is pretty cool as well10:43
djptopyli, i am more than happy with rhythmbox... however i do currently need to use ogg123 in order to playback streaming radio as rhythmbox does have an issue with this at the current time10:43
Stormxbah10:43
Tomcat_rhythmbox \o/10:43
crashdhow do you edit the launchbar in gnome ?10:43
amphowdy folks. just installed ubuntu (woo hoo!) I don't remember setting the root password during the install. Now I don't know what it is. How to change?10:43
Tomcat_crashd: Right click, add something.10:43
StormxI love how you can use winamp skins with XMMS 210:43
crashdTomcat_: i tried that earlier :\10:43
crashdhmm10:43
synd-amp: you dont need root10:43
topylidjp: it does? my rhythmbox seems to be doing just fine10:43
crashdmaybe my mouse is playing up10:43
StormxI'm using the default winamp 5 skin ;-)10:43
synd-amp: sudo takes care of root for you10:44
darkheartamp root password is the user password.10:44
AnD-Question: How can I install the gnu c++ compiler with the apt-get command, apt-get install c++ doesn't work ?10:44
djptopyli: not with ogg streams no. you probably use mp3 streaming10:44
bimberiamp: there is none, the root account is disabled and you use sudo for superuser access10:44
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Chaotic_Realitysweet. you can change the outgoing port in thunderbird.  bye bye evolution10:44
Goodspeedhow do i cahnge folder permissions?10:44
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synd-AnD-: sudo apt-get isntall build-essential10:44
crashdanother thing that gripes me about metacity is the way it seems to take up more screenspace than it should10:44
topylidjp: yes, i mostly listen to somafm which has mp3 IIRC10:44
AnD-ok thanks10:44
ampso when I try to run the ubuntu update manager, and it prompts me for a password, what password do I provide?10:44
Kyralyour user password10:45
darkheartamp your password10:45
ampokee dokee10:45
synd-amp: the password you entered when you installed ubuntu10:45
synd-entered/created10:45
djptopyli: mp3 streams are fine, it is ogg streams that have the problem. basically the first track will play fine, then when a second starts an error will occur...10:45
Goodspeedhow do i change folder permissions?10:45
darkheartIs there a place to set the keyboard layout inside gnome?10:45
bimberiamp: that is - your user password10:45
ampso is the ubuntu update manager the "package manager"? I need to have emacs and it's not there by default.10:45
djpcan't remeber the error message but it is logged as a bug with the maintainers of rhythmbox10:45
darkheartGoodspeed man chmod10:45
bimberiGoodspeed: chmod and chown10:45
Ju1ceGoodspeed: chmod10:45
topylidjp: actually, i'd use muine much more if it would handle streams. but stream support is not planned10:46
Goodspeedchmod what10:46
Goodspeedhelp10:46
Goodspeednm10:46
Ju1cechmod permissions file10:46
whittiGoodspeed: ie. chmod -R 755 folder10:46
djpogg123 works fine for my ogg streams, so not really a big hassle. will just wait for a fix in rhythmbox ;)10:46
Goodspeedwould that give me access to the folder?10:46
KeeganWI am about ready to trash ubuntu, I have been working for 2 days to get ndiswrapper to work, the people at the ndiswrapper IRC channel tell me it is a problem with the kernel10:46
tlord___In light of this discussion re: sudo / root, I wonder if anyone could tell me what I might have done to make my system (Hoary) stop recognizing me as its root and master? I can log in and do normal user things, but when I want to do anything that requires superuser power, it refuses to recognize my password. Any ideas?!10:46
darkheartGoodspeed Only if you own it. you can't chmod a file you don't own.10:46
Goodspeedeven under root?10:47
bimberiamp: yes - system -> administration -> synaptic package manager10:47
darkheartGoodspeed root can do anything.10:47
KeeganWit says the driver is installed, but it does not show up under networking10:47
topylidjp: well, you don't need much of an interface to listen to a radio stream all day :)10:47
bimberiamp: more info here ...10:47
djpexactly! :)10:47
bimberi!synaptic10:47
ubotumethinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:47
djpi even launch a lot of my music from emacs!10:47
Goodspeedhow would i give my self access to a folder10:47
Goodspeednot just root10:47
KeeganW& I can't do anything with SUDO10:48
topylidjp: very leet ;)10:48
leedjp, what is your operating system. ubuntu or emacs? ;)10:48
djpALT-X emms-play-all! ;)10:48
bimberiGoodspeed: chown <your-user-name> <foldername>10:48
topylilee: emacs of course. linux just provides the device drivers10:48
djplee: i do have to ask myself sometimes! ;)10:48
leebut of course!10:48
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{cYanide}hey10:48
Goodspeed-R to do the entire directory?10:49
{cYanide}i fixed the grub,  er i basically started the installer, canceled, skipped to the er grub installer10:49
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topylihaha10:49
{cYanide}BUT im wondering, where does the installer leave temp packages? etc it installs from10:49
darkheartGoodspeed You are gonna break something if you chmod -R  the / directory.10:49
bimberitlord___: are you using the account you created during install?10:49
Goodspeednooo10:49
{cYanide}i think i might have some tmp files around10:49
Goodspeedthe wine directory10:49
Goodspeeddont worry10:49
Goodspeed:)10:49
tlord___bimberi: yup.10:49
tlord___It worked fine for quite some time :)10:49
tlord___But about a month ago went crazy.10:50
MagiPinkI don't suppose anyone knows if there's a Share client for linux? :D10:50
topyli{cYanide}: /var/cache/apt/archives10:50
darkheartMagiPink What do you mean share?10:50
omegArgh10:51
MagiPinkI mean Share. The filesharing program. :310:51
topylishare directories or share pr0n? :)10:51
omegDownloading updates at 1200 B/s10:51
MagiPinkIt's called share. Heh.10:51
tlord___bimberi: I've been busy (and low on bandwidth) in that time, figured I would just burn the live CD iso and boot into it, then see if that let me edit appropriate files, but ... I can't even get it to boot from the Live CD now. (This is on an iBook; I hold down D at boot to force it to boot from the optical drive, but it's not working ...)10:51
vader1102MagiPink: do you mean p2p?10:51
darkheartMagiPink I see..No idea in that case.10:51
omegThis reminds me of my 14.4k modem...10:51
Pegavader1102, he means share10:51
BSG85do u mean like bittorrent?10:51
Pega:P10:51
vader1102k10:51
topyliMagiPink: never heard. there are clients for many networks, like gnutella10:51
vader1102 I will stay out of it then10:51
bimberitlord___: hm - i was about to suggest booting from the livecd too :)10:52
MagiPinkIt's a Japanese program... and pretty much the only thing I feel the need to switch over to my windows partition for. xD10:52
PegaI njever heard of share either, but I guess it is some protocol too... :P10:52
{cYanide}topyli,  is that the only place the install stores stuff?10:52
{cYanide}cuz er the "base installer" started but i reset before it actually did bits10:52
darkheartMagiPink Try running it with wine.10:52
{cYanide}(but it was doing package stuff)10:52
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topyli{cYanide}: the packages, yes10:52
MagiPinkdarkheart: I did... Doesn't work. ^^10:53
ChoubakaHm10:53
{cYanide}cool so i can remove all that?10:53
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ChoubakaShare and Winny don't work with wine unless you apply magicks10:53
darkheartMagiPink And you don't know what network it runs on?10:53
bimberitlord___: open a terminal and type "groups", do you see an "admin" group in the list?10:53
MagiPinkdarkheart: No, not at all. :310:53
MagiPinkChoubaka: Eh?10:53
darkheartMagiPink I would try to find that out, then search for a linux client that supports that network.10:54
Choubakadarkheart: it's probably their own invention.10:54
tlord___bimberi: hold a sec :)10:54
PegaEverything good comes from japan. May it be anime, schoolgirls, or tentacle monsters raping schoolgirls in anime, it comes from japan. How am I not suprised that good file sharing programs come from japan too. MagiPink, does that program happen to habe tentacles in all the buttons and menus?10:54
darkheartChoubaka Yeah, you are probably right.10:54
ChoubakaMagiPink: I found some instructions to make _winny_ work with wine.10:54
tlord___bimberi: Yes, "admin" is there.10:54
ChoubakaI suppose they might be applicable to share too, since they mostly had to do with proper SJIS encoding support.10:54
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omegHey, just curious: is there anybody else here who turned off anti-aliasing hinting? I think everything looks much better without it.10:54
MagiPinkHow keen. :310:55
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ChoubakaMagiPink: however, that how-to required patching wine sources and stabbing the configs :(10:55
Choubakaso I didn't bother.10:55
PegaAnyways. Good nite everyone.10:55
StormxI HAV RETURN'D AFTER MANY A PROBLEM BE SOLVED FOR YE NEWBIES!!!10:55
crimsun...10:55
ChoubakaGood to hear that.10:56
StormxI thought so.10:56
darkheartStormx You can solve my problem then =)10:56
MagiPinkChoubaka: I think I'll just stick to having to switch over to windows for the one little thing then, as it seems I might break something if I tried. xD10:56
Stormxok, what is your problem?10:56
BSG85bye guys .. I am gonna go swtich my wife off from Suse to Ubuntu :)10:56
nubbeHow do I remove the text and decrease the size of icons in the nautilus "navigation bar" (with back forward home and so on)?10:56
Stormxnubbe: its in edit > preferences10:56
bimberitlord___: You'll need to boot to recovery mode (for superuser access) and check the file /etc/sudoers10:57
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darkheartStormx I wanted to get vnc working. Everything did work fine (install, etc) but when I first loaded up my vnc session, I got a window telling me that there was a settings conflict between X and Gnome and asking me which I wanted to use. I chose Gnome. Now it seems the keys are mapped incorrectly. Pressing 'f' results in 'h' being ouputted.10:57
tlord___how do I boot to recovery mode?10:57
crimsuntlord___: choose the Rescue boot option10:57
tlord___bimberi: how do I boot to recovery mode? :)10:57
tlord___Ah, thanks.10:57
jeffmhey guys10:57
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tlord___when I check that file, what might I then do?10:57
Stormxdarkheart: haha. Tried removing it and re-installing?10:58
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bimberitlord___: it should be a boot option in grub when booting (note - i don't know PPC well though)10:58
jeffmholy crap there are alot of people in here10:58
lamontif youre booting livecd, sudo -s gets you a root shell with no password10:58
darkheartStormx Hehe I thought about it. What's the command line to remove a package including all config files?10:58
lamontbut that's probably not the question..10:58
nubbeStormx, it is?  Pls walk me thru it because I've looked a good many times.10:58
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Ju1cetoday I realized both Linux and irc are coming from the same country.10:59
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tlord___bimberi: much appreciated! I will play a bit. First, I'm copying off what I can from the hard disk; I *can* mount an external disk (no su password required) and transfer off my various artifacts.10:59
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tlord___I may be back on later, but not tonight ;)10:59
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bimberitlord___: I the following line in /etc/sudoers:10:59
mgorbach228Can someone help me out with installing ATI video card drivers?10:59
mgorbach228i just installed ubuntu and its not detecting the card10:59
{cYanide}er does anyone know how big on average the ubuntu install is?10:59
mabelIt's downloading hell slow from Ubuntu's repositories? How can I find another mirror or something?10:59
topylinubbe: actually, nautilus follows the gnome default which you can set in system -> prefs -> toolbars10:59
bimberitlord___: dave    ALL=(ALL) ALL11:00
Stormxdarkheart: Use synaptic11:00
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bimberitlord___: (where "dave" is my username)11:00
mgorbach228anyone?11:00
bimberitlord___: you should have something similar11:00
tlord___ok11:00
darkheartStormx Yeah..I will try that, but the problem is that I'm at work right now. So I have to use command line.11:00
Stormx{cYanide} not that big.11:00
nubbetopyli, Thanks a whole bunch, just what I was looking for  :)11:01
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{cYanide}just paranoid now, its using 1.5ish gig, with all updates and few other bits11:01
vladuz976anybody having trouble with the nvidia drivers11:01
{cYanide}(paranoid about temp files left over from my dodgy grub reinstall)11:01
bimberi!tell mgorbach228 about ati11:01
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Stormxtopyli: I can't see that >_>11:02
BSG85Later Sormx :)11:02
Stormxcya ;-)11:02
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Stormx!HELP MEH PLZ11:03
BSG85don't type too much :)11:03
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BSG85LOL11:03
burnboyyummm11:03
Stormx!help11:03
topyliStormx: are you using ubuntu? :) system - prefs - menus and toolbars, change "toolbar button labels"11:03
burnboyyBSG85 now i'm stuck in 640X480 mode11:03
Stormxtopyli: Yeh I saw that. Is there an equivilant for Fedora's Nauticus, though?11:03
burnboyyand the pic is still off center11:03
StormxxD11:03
{cYanide}burnboyy er edit your monitor refresh /sync?11:04
topyliStormx: no idea. does fedora ship gnome 2.10?11:04
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topyliit's a gnome setting11:04
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Stormxtopyli: How can I get a location bar, along with up, backwards and forwards buttons in Nautilus?11:05
ags06has anyone gotten realplayer to work in ubuntu11:05
StormxWhy would you want realplayer?11:05
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ags06how then would i play rm files11:05
{cYanide}i got realplayer n acrobat on me mobile XD11:05
BSG85realplayer working great under ubuntu :)11:05
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ags06mine install fine without errors but fails to start11:06
synd-ags06: use totem-xine11:06
topyliStormx: use the old-style browser mode. right click on any folder and choose "browse folder", or choose "file browser" from the applications -> system menu11:06
avanspronsendarkheart: try sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>11:06
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nubbetopyli, What is "Editable menu accelerators"? It isn't covered in help...11:07
Stormxhaha topyli: thats still nautilus!11:07
Stormxnautilus --no-desktop --browser %U11:07
MagiPinkexplore2fs just become one of my new best friends. :311:07
darkheartavanspronsen Hey =) Just tried that. Although the reinstall didn't fix anything.11:07
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topyliStormx: of course11:09
lurahhmm11:09
ags06have anyone noticed that when installing certain packages the mouse (ps/2) would seize to work11:09
ags06the development ones11:10
topylinubbe: i seem to remember there's a keyboard hack where you can hover over a menu item and press a key and it will be your new shortcut to that item11:10
Stormxtopyli: you smartass ;-)11:10
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vader1102ok, I have a valid win98 EULA and I am trying to run a popular chat on wine, but the problem is when I right click the the file and choos open with wine, it opens the setup but and I find that it cannot write the shortcuts, I cannot find where it puts the program to run, what am I doing wrong?11:10
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lurahdo i have a problem here or im i just stupid. when ill go root terminal, sometimes it wants password but sometimes wont. also when i install something, it wants password sometimesd but sometimes wont?11:10
topylinubbe: that's it. hover the mouse on an item and press ctrl+<any-key> to set that as the shortcut11:10
topyliStormx: heh11:11
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bimberilurah: no problem :) - once you put the password in it doesn't ask again for 15 minutes11:11
darkheartlurah Time delay..Once you authenticate you don't have to do it again for a while. But after a certain amount of time, you gotta do it again.11:11
BSG85where is the anykey?11:11
Stormxlurah: It depends on whether you need the password. On linux systems, you just don't control everything11:11
nubbetopyli, Yeah, thanks again11:11
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lurahbimberi,  ok, its ok imho :D11:11
topyliStormx: ph33r my gn0m3 skillz!11:11
Stormxtoptli:OMGWTFBBQ!11:11
BSG85ROFLMAO11:12
topyliheh11:12
BSG85night night11:12
vladuz976{look;find;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;flex;unzip; mount;workbone;11:12
vladuz976fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;yes;eject;umount;makeclean;zip; split;done;exit}11:12
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topylibah. old11:12
Stormxtopyli: You are so 1337 that your 133811:12
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topyliStormx: and don't you forget it :)11:12
pvhHi, I'm running Kubuntu Hoary and I'm getting hard lockups. I haven't been able to find anything in the forums or the logs that might clue me in to the problem.11:13
topylilol11:13
Stormx^_______________________________________________________________^;;11:13
darkheartWhere do gnome and X set the keyboard mapping?11:13
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synd-naim is amazing11:13
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pvhA list of symptoms: My display locks up, but the pointer keeps moving. If I am listening to a song, it plays to the end but the next one doesn't start. I can SSH in and see that xorg is eating all my ticks, but it can't be killed by any means.11:13
topylisynd-: that's the ncurses app?11:14
pvhI'm not running DAMAGE or RENDER.11:14
synd-topyli: CLI aim app11:14
topyliyeah11:14
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synd-dunno what ncurses is..11:14
pvhThe crash seems to happen at random -- I thought it was firefox so I started using Konq more, but it crashes in Konq too.11:15
topylisynd-: it's a library for console apps to make simple guis. like mc and aptitude and many others11:15
pvhs/crashes/freezes/11:15
synd-topyli: ah, ok11:15
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pvhMy system is so unstable now that I've actually been booting into windows when I need to do anything serious.11:15
topylivery disturbing11:15
Stormxpvh: don't use kubuntu11:15
AzmodanI chose to have the clock based on GMT during the install but I changed my mind (another hard disk running windows).  Which file do I have to change ?11:15
pvhStormx: is it known to have freeze bugs?11:15
pvhStormx: I didn't see anything that matched my symptoms in the forums.11:16
Stormxpvh: Don't know, but ubuntu is the more mainstream so I'd imagine it has better support for different setups11:16
topylipvh: might be hardware too11:16
pvhStormx: Oh, right. I forgot to mention that -- my girlfriend is using a Gnome session and reports lockups too.11:16
pvhtopyli: That's my fear. Can you recommend a diagnostic tool?11:17
Stormx:-/11:17
StormxWhat are your system specs?11:17
pvhThe worst is that my filesystem is getting munged.11:17
mgorbach228can someone explain why i dont have an /etc/x11/xorg.conf file?11:17
pvhAMD Athlon 1800XP, Geforce Ti440011:17
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mgorbach228or an /etc/x11 directory at all??11:17
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topylipvh: for RAM, there's memtest86. for disks, smartmontools. for processors, crash (or something like crash)11:18
pvhtopyli: Thanks a lot.11:18
mgorbach228someone? please?11:18
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mgorbach228lol nm .. wrong caps11:18
carlsonmgorbach228, yes?11:18
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Stormxmgorbach: You've installed ubuntu?11:18
topylipvh: no, crash is a kernel debugging utility. crashme is a better general stress test11:19
pvhStormx: And to you as well. Thanks.11:19
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pvhtopyli: Perfect.11:19
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StormxOK I'll brb11:19
carlsonhow about running ununtu as a server? is it a good idea?11:19
MagiPinkHuh... If I was to use VMware or some such to have a small virtual windows machine running in Ubuntu, is there a way to get files from my Ubuntu into the virtual machine?11:20
Stormx!How much do you love me?11:20
ubotuStormx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:20
Stormxrofl11:20
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carlsonMagiPink,  I am running right now ubuntu on vmware :) and theres a way11:20
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Stormx!What is the meaning of life?11:20
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Stormx11:20
carlsonMagiPink, you have to configure samba and the network settings for vmware11:20
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Stormx!What is ubuntu?11:21
ubotuStormx: what are you talking about?11:21
MagiPinkHow keen.11:21
Stormx!help What is Ubuntu?11:21
Stormx!help11:21
synd-Stormx: play with the bot in PM, please11:21
avanspronsenMagiPink: You can use VMWare shared folders to do just that11:21
Stormxsynd-: I am11:21
MagiPinkThank you. :D11:21
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avanspronsenMagiPink: Shared folders can be found on the settings tab under VM11:22
Stormxsynd-: It doesn't reply when i PM it.11:22
Stormxanyway, bbr11:22
synd-Stormx: take off the !11:22
MagiPinkavanspronsen: Thans. :)11:22
MagiPinkThanks*11:22
avanspronsenMagiPink: NP11:23
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MagiPinkWell, speaking of which... I need to bop over to my Ubuntu partition, as windows tires me... BRB. xD11:23
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MagiPinkThat's the stuff.11:26
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a514Hi the Live CD works great. What option do i use at the boot prompt for a textmode cli?11:27
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Dr_FateFF stopped browsing11:28
Dr_FateWTF is wrong with this browser11:28
Bubbling_Zombiea51411:28
Dr_FateI have never had so many problems with it11:28
Bubbling_Zombieuse ctrl + alt +F111:28
a514Dr_Fate go to about and check the version for 1.0.611:28
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Dr_Fateits the right version11:29
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Dr_Fateits just loading and loading and loading11:30
yuachtflicka med msn?11:30
MagiPinkOooh... One other thing... Is there a way to make Limewire actually minimize to a little icon on the panel like gaim does? 'Cause when it's set to minimize to task bar.... IT just knd of disappears.11:30
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Dr_FateMagiPink, no, and Limewire is dead11:30
codecainelimewire is dead?11:30
Dr_Fategoogle it11:30
Dr_Fatethere was an article11:30
EddieI just started using ubuntu and was wondering if anyone can help me install KDE on my box?11:31
crispynix-v6anyone else missing libglu1-xorg in breezy?11:31
Dr_Fatethe developers are leaving it due to RIAA11:31
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MagiPinkI just used it yesterday? :311:31
Goodspeedwhats the password for root?11:31
Dr_FateEddie, kubuntu11:31
mgorbach228ok ... just update to ati drivers and my monitor is showing nothing11:31
a514Bubbling_Zombie Thanks. I have a prb. Kubuntu stalls when KDM loads and says - id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes - no more processes left in this runlevel11:31
EddieDr_fate, something is wrong with my burner11:31
Dr_FateGoodspeed, you have to create one, use sudo11:31
codecainedr fate, works for me11:31
codecaineEddie, install kubuntu11:31
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Dr_Fatecodecaine, did not say it does not work11:31
crispynix-v6Eddie: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings11:31
vader1102Dr_Fate: works for me too11:31
Bubbling_Zombiea514 , i have little to no experience with kdm , nor with the livecd11:32
Dr_Fatejesus11:32
Goodspeedhow do i do that?11:32
codecainedr_, what u mean by dead?11:32
Goodspeedsudo password?11:32
mgorbach228can somoene help me out?11:32
Dr_Fatecodecaine, google it11:32
vader1102google says nothing bout it being dead11:32
EddieI have kubuntu but can't burn it because something is wrong with my burner11:32
a514Dr11:32
MagiPinkGoogle doesn't say anything about Limewire being dead... and the Limewire site looks okay. :311:32
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Dr_Fatevader1102, search dslreports p2p section11:32
codecainevader1102, don't see anything on it either11:32
synd-MagiPink: limewire is terrible11:32
codecainecan we be more specific on the issue please?11:32
Dr_Fatesynd, RIGHT!11:32
synd-where is the soruces.list?11:32
Goodspeedhow do i set a password for root?11:32
MagiPinksynd-, I don't know any alternatives. xD11:33
synd-sources.list11:33
codecainelimewire rocks, how is it terrible?11:33
Dr_Fatecodecaine, I just told you exactly what I meant above11:33
mgorbach228the system boots in recovery mode11:33
synd-MagiPink: gtk-gnutella11:33
Dr_Fatevery specific11:33
mgorbach228but when trying to initialize xorg i can no graphics11:33
a514Eddie, i do not recommend the lastest. It just stalls.11:33
emXGoodspeed: unless you need the root account for some specific reason, try to use sudo.11:33
synd-codecaine: java apps are terrible11:33
Goodspeedi need the root account for somethign specifi11:33
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Dr_Fatesynd, exatly11:33
Eddieoh, I just want a stable11:33
emXGoodspeed: what, exactly?11:33
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VjazHiya.11:33
Goodspeedmake install of wine using the cvs11:33
Dr_FateGoodspeed, if you don't know how to get root, I doubt you need it11:33
synd-where is sources.list at?11:34
Dr_FateGoodspeed, sudo will work for that11:34
Goodspeedit asks for root password11:34
emXGoodspeed: sudo will do that -- 'sudo make install'11:34
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Dr_Fatesynd, where everything is /etc11:34
VjazAnyone know the correct method to boot Windows XP from Grub? I found some instructions to do that, but couldn't get it to work. Anyone with a working config file for this?11:34
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avanspronsensynd-: /etc/apt11:34
synd-!repos11:34
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:34
emXGoodspeed: it wants *your* user password, not roots (the root account is disabled)11:34
Dr_FateVjaz, thats done automagically11:34
ubuntu_what is the root password on the live cd?11:34
VjazDr_Fate: wasn't in my case11:34
synd-Dr_Fate, avanspronsen: thanks11:35
emXubuntu_: there is none.11:35
Dr_Fatesynd, np11:35
emXubuntu_: use sudo.11:35
ubuntu_emX, it asks me for a password when i su11:35
ubuntu_ah ok11:35
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VjazDr_Fate: It could be that my XP installation is broken though.11:35
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VjazDr_Fate: But do you know the right configuration if I want to do it manually?11:35
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Dr_MelectausDoes anyone no any good system monitoring software that has a GUI and says shiz about How much of the CPU is being used, ram, emails etc etc11:36
shidoany news on getting a conexant capture card to play SOUND yet in ubuntu? I get the TV picture clear as day but no soun - let alone the radio features of the card11:36
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weejamerDoes anyone know how i can mount a single drive on a raid controller11:36
omegAck11:36
omegFirefox tried to auto-install the Flash plug-in, but it failed.11:36
omegI wonder why.11:37
omegMaybe it's because I'm downloading updates.11:37
weejamerthat happened to me too omeg11:37
vader1102well, time for me to go visit a customer or 2, I will return sometime tonight11:37
mgorbach228can someone help me out?11:37
omegI wonder what the problem is11:37
omegYou have any idea, weejamer?11:37
mgorbach228i cant figure out why xorg is not working with my monitor once i updated ati fglrx drivers11:37
mcphailshido: no specific ideas, but maybe you're card has the same trouble as a lot of other things with ESD?11:38
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mcphail*your11:38
weejamerno omeg i tried to manual install but i have other problems at the moment11:38
weejamerDoes anyone know how i can mount a single drive on a raid controller11:38
codecaineanyone in here using cisco client?11:38
mgorbach228i have no idea what the problem is11:38
shidomcphail, it took me 3 days to figure out how to get sound working in ubuntu -11:38
shido:)11:38
shidolet me plug the card back in and try it11:38
shidobrb11:38
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mgorbach228no one?11:39
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weejamerno omeg i tried to manual install but i have other problems at the moment11:39
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weejamerDoes anyone know how i can mount a single drive on a raid controller11:39
avanspronsenomeg: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:40
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codecaineweejamer, raid controllers are for use with 2 or more drives right?11:40
codecaineput the drive in the hardware raid and mount it11:41
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xquizitHi, does anyone here use xfce??11:42
Blissexxquizit: consider #XFCE and asking more detailed questions.11:42
synd-xquizit: many do11:43
DaSkreechE!!!11:43
xquizitok, it's just a simple question. but i'll ask there :)11:43
smhi ubuntites11:44
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LinuxJonessm, welcome11:44
smbreezy colony 2 installer hangs on my dell inspiron 1100 after copying all files from the cd.. would anyone have any insight ?11:44
Syco54645how how do i burn cds with the live cd?11:45
seth_kColony 2 is quite unstable11:45
LinuxJonesIt's unusually quiet in here right now11:45
ompaulSyco54645, which drive is your burner?11:45
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smI see.. was colony 1 better ?11:46
Syco54645um well in udev it is /dev/cdroms/cdrom111:46
Syco54645i have 2 burners11:46
Doonzis there a command that allows me to see how much bw my card is putting out11:46
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Syco54645but that is the free one11:46
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ompaulSyco54645, actually you can try cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1 some.iso11:46
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smI have to reinstall, and I'd prefer not to use old hoary for it11:47
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Syco54645ompaul: ok i just did a scanbus on cdrecord and it yelled at me... i never got it to work with ide drives though11:47
ompaulSyco54645, that is what it does at me but that command works :)11:47
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Syco54645ok11:47
Syco54645kool11:47
Syco54645i just need to put it into dao mode then11:48
Syco54645unless i cant11:48
ompaulSyco54645, and just for fun I burn lots of linux and ubuntu for peeps11:48
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avanspronsensm:why not reinstall using hoary and upgrade?11:48
mgorbach228can someone help me out?11:48
mgorbach228i cant figure out why xorg is not working with my monitor once i updated ati fglrx drivers11:48
smif there's no better cd image, I'll do that11:48
Syco54645ompaul, if you want to have alot of fun why not get me a harddrive :P that way i dont need to use a live cd for a computer11:48
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smalso I wonder if I'm looking in the right place for installer bug reports ? bugzilla -> advanced search -> Ubuntu -> 5.1011:49
ompaulSyco54645, cds cheap :) hard drives expensive here - 250 for 12011:49
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Syco54645ompaul, wow i get a 200 gig for 100 usd here11:50
Syco54645i just dont have the money to get oine now11:50
cloudranybody knows any tool for linux similar to partionmagic able to convert ntfs to fat32 (without destroying the data)11:50
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Syco54645crap why is it when i type "cdrecord --help | grep -i dao" it doesnt grep?11:50
lurahdarn11:51
lurahcant get my ess 18xx work here :(11:51
xquizithey, eariler today I noticed that there was an update for gzip. but once I loged out I got an error. it said something about bonobo and I can do anything other then look at my desktop :S11:51
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ompaulSyco54645, well a live CD is not a full install11:51
Syco54645still grep should work11:52
mindmediccloudr, i dont know, but if you want to access the files on your windows partition you could give captive-ntfs a try11:52
ompaulSyco54645, only if the doc is there11:52
codecainegtk-gnutella won't even download a gosh darn file how is this a great program?11:52
Syco54645ompaul, when i type cdrecord --help it displays stuff11:52
Syco54645it is just going to the wrong stdout or something11:52
Syco54645i forget how to fix it now11:52
Doonzis there a command that shows the current speed my nick is sending and receiving at11:53
Doonznic*11:53
xquizitalso I tried running nautilus form the cli and nothing happend :(11:53
Syco54645does anyone know if ubuntu uses a devfs type thing?11:53
cloudrmindmedic: it is just a matter of having reliable read/write access to a windows partition11:53
mindmedic:D11:53
mindmedicit works for me, but sure, theres no guarantee11:54
Syco54645w00t guess it doesnt or i am unfamiliar with how it is working11:54
ompaulSyco54645, wrong stdout - emm - the other one prints and emm --- grep is not > or < so I have a lot of trouble with that idea11:54
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mindmediccloudr, is it a boot partition?11:54
cloudrdev/hda111:55
Syco54645ompaul, i know what i mean, i just dont feel like explaining it... basically it is that it is grepping something that isnt there because it is using a different stdout or some crap11:55
Syco54645but it still displays11:55
mindmediccloudr, sry, i meant is windows installed on it?11:55
EddieI need some help installing KDE on Ubuntu, and I can't get kubuntu because my cd-rom doesn't seem to work11:55
mgorbach228can someone help me out?11:55
mgorbach228i cant figure out why xorg is not working with my monitor once i updated ati fglrx drivers11:55
mgorbach228no one on this forum is willing to help? come on?11:56
Syco54645oh crap this cdrecord doesnt support dvds11:56
ompaulSyco54645, then redirect it to echo11:56
Vjazthat's why it's not called dvdrecord11:56
mgorbach228someone must know ...11:56
Syco54645Vjaz, there is a version that does11:56
VjazSyco54645: all right :-)11:56
Syco54645ompaul, yeah that is a fix, but considering that i am on a live cd id rather not fix it now11:56
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Syco54645does anyone know how i could burn a dvd with the live cd?11:57
cloudrmindmedic: yes it is11:57
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topylihmm. i hear the new windows (if it's ever released) will finally have a proper command line shell11:58
Deviant_Whens the next ubuntu release?11:58
Ju1ceSyco54645: Why to use live cd btw?11:58
topyliDeviant_: september11:58
frank_october11:58
topyliheh11:58
ompaulDeviant_, oct ~ 15th11:58
topylioctober yes11:58
avanspronsenDeviant_: october11:58
Deviant_Whats the new ubuntu looking like?11:58
mgorbach228why does no one answer?11:58
pettitopyli: yeah, slashdot already has five exploits announced for it :)11:58
Deviant_any info on it?11:58
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topylipetti: that's what i'm reading :)11:58
Syco54645Ju1ce, because i have no harddrive for my main drive... it died and all i have is my two dump drives that i am not going to format11:58
ompaulmgorbach228, maybe no person knows11:58
petti:)11:58
Chromancehrm11:59
ompaulmgorbach228, and maybe the person who knows is not here11:59
mindmediccloudr, maybe check gnu parted, but i doubt there is a free utility out there that can keep your win partition healthy when converting it11:59
ompaulmgorbach228, or busy and will be with you in 5 mins11:59
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