[12:00] <stimpie> abydos, sorry cant help you with that
[12:00] <abydos> sh: /usr/share/enlightenment/data/other/applications.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[12:00] <abydos> Xlib:  extension "XpExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:00] <salil> Seveas:  is that command wrong..?
[12:00] <Seveas> salil, that's not how you use it...
[12:00] <abydos> XpExtension eh?
[12:00] <stimpie> abydos, I cant even get the repositories right for E17
[12:00] <FAMAS> have you seen the Ubuntu os-tan yet? :o
[12:00] <salil> Seveas: can you show me ?
[12:01] <Seveas> salil, not right now since i'm going to sleep. Maybe the manpage can help you a bit more
[12:01] <salil> Seveas:  i tried.. but i'm not getting any thing from it.
[12:01] <ortox> anyone know how to run gparted through the live disc?
[12:02] <lui> I have a little anoying thing about the firefox I recently installed in my ubuntu. anyone could give me a hand please?
[12:02] <zAo^> hmm: dmesg gives me hdc & hdd found, but not in my FS. Gnomebaker & k3b cannot burn
[12:02] <pc19> how do i install java in for firefox?
[12:03] <kaffeend> just to make sure, is this command the right one? chmod +x /home/me/armyops230-linux.run&&run /home/me/armyops230-linux.run
[12:03] <pc19> how do i install java plugin in for firefox?
[12:03] <pc19> how do i install java plugin for firefox?
[12:03] <zAo^> pc19, plz dont. use www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:03] <jasoncohen> !tell pc19 about java
[12:03] <zAo^> of www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:03] <Seveas> pc19: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[12:04] <zAo^> omg ^^
[12:04] <zAo^> :D
[12:04] <Seveas> ubuntuforums is good :)
[12:04] <salil> can anyone help me with crontab..??
[12:04] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: no - drop the second "run"
[12:04] <Seveas> kaffeend, just  /home/me/armyops230-linux.run
[12:04] <Seveas> and now i'm really off :)
[12:04] <kaffeend> ok thanks again
[12:05] <pc19> thanks
[12:05] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: to run an app, just use the path to the app - "run" will just return an error
[12:05] <CarmenSandieg1> How do I add repositories?
[12:06] <Stormx> haha theres a moth on my screen and Im scaring it away with my mouse pointer
[12:06] <jasoncohen> has anyone else had filesystem corruption or problems with ubuntu just not booting up properly or breaking for no apparent reason?
[12:07] <thoreauputic> Stormx: unfortunately "xkill" won't work on moths ;-)
[12:07] <CarmenSandieg1> Jasoncohen, not me. ;)
[12:07] <thoreauputic> jasoncohen: negative
[12:07] <CarmenSandieg1> Is there a website to go to, to tell me which repositories I should use?
[12:07] <jasoncohen> CarmenSandieg1, it depends on what you want
[12:07] <thoreauputic> jasoncohen: check your RAM and hardware I'd say
[12:08] <kaffeend> OMG - it ran but I got this error back: Error in MD5 checksums: 6e25b44de3d6eade0b54278d6a3dd069 is different from bcae59c8dcd4a48d11e6d06bfa070a09
[12:08] <jasoncohen> thoreauputic, already done - i've run all the SMART tests on my HD and it passes each and i ran memtest for 8 hours- no errors
[12:08] <CarmenSandieg1> Jasoncohen, all except backports.
[12:08] <Seveas> CarmenSandieg1: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:08] <gregg_> jasoncohen: run memtest86 and mprime from mersenne.org -- if they report any error, your hardware is broken
[12:08] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: hmm - bad download?
[12:08] <Joose^> hi again
[12:08] <jasoncohen> !tell CarmenSandieg1 about multimedia repositories
[12:08] <kaffeend> hmmm...
[12:09] <Seveas> jasoncohen, that one has backports
[12:09] <jasoncohen> CarmenSandieg1, that'll give you what you want. main, universe, multiverse, universe, hoary-extras
[12:09] <gregg_> jasoncohen: try mprime
[12:09] <kaffeend> was a 7 hour download
[12:09] <Joose^> Seveas i do what u say me... doesn't work
[12:09] <Joose^> default 3 ; time: 5
[12:09] <jasoncohen> Seveas, no it doesn't. i should know- i wrote it!
[12:09] <CarmenSandieg1> Thank you, jasoncohen, and Seveas. :)
[12:09] <Seveas> !multimedia repositories
[12:09] <ubotu> multimedia repositories is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[12:09] <jasoncohen> Seveas, it has hoary-extras, not hoary-backports
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hope you realised my /msg was a joke ;) I intended to wipe the factoid immediately
[12:10] <Seveas> jasoncohen, it's from the backports project
[12:10] <pc19> ~$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[12:10] <pc19> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[12:10] <jasoncohen> gregg_, what's the difference between mrprime's memtest and ubuntu's?
[12:10] <Seveas> pc19, install java-package
[12:10] <Seveas> pc19, you need to enable multiverse for it
[12:10] <jasoncohen> Seveas, yes, but it's not backports. they're different repositories with different users
[12:10] <gregg_> jasoncohen: mprime is something completely different
[12:10] <jasoncohen> *ues
[12:10] <pc19> how do i do it
[12:10] <gregg_> jasoncohen: it's a CPU test, not a memory test
[12:10] <kaffeend> so is there a way for me to correct this checksum error thing?
[12:10] <pc19> sorry beginner in linux
[12:10] <Seveas> jasoncohen, true, but they still should not be enabled by default :)
[12:10] <Stormx> Seveas, wern't you leaving? Be sure to unmute that guy before you go ;-)
[12:11] <Seveas> pc19, did you ever change /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:11] <hubsi> how do i get my "version".. i wanna know if it's hoary or breezy
[12:11] <Joose^> the time was done.. i have to choose a option...
[12:11] <jasoncohen> Seveas, and they aren't :)
[12:11] <pc19> no
[12:11] <Seveas> Stormx, done that long time ago....
[12:11] <Stormx> Seveas, sorry I missed it >_>
[12:11] <jasoncohen> that page is for users that want multimedia codecs from extras. he said he wanted everything but backports
[12:11] <pc19> where do i get the guide to do that
[12:11] <dynir> Hello
[12:11] <paxmaster> hello i am having problem with my palm sync to my computer
[12:11] <Seveas> pc19: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:11] <jasoncohen> i assumed he meant just backports and not extras which has java, w32codecs, libdvdcss2 etc.
[12:12] <Seveas> pc19, then do: apt-get update
[12:12] <stimpie> somehere who managed to install e17 thru nooms.de?
[12:12] <Seveas> pc19, then do: sudo apt-get install java-package
[12:12] <jasoncohen> !tell pc19 about repositories
[12:12] <paxmaster> it has something to do with /dev/pilot
[12:12] <Joose^> Seveas i change default 0 for default 3 and time 5 and doesn't work
[12:12] <jasoncohen> gregg_, is there something wrong with ubuntu's memtest? you said to use memtest from http://mersenne.org/
[12:13] <dynir> unfortunately I'm stuck on windows xp.... I use the Ubuntu live cd to test computer and such, but that's about it.
[12:13] <gregg_> jasoncohen: sorry, my error. of course there is no memtest on mersenne.org :)
[12:13] <Seveas> Joose^, I forgot one thing - the separator is counted too
[12:13] <Seveas> Joose^, after the timeout id did nothing this time right?
[12:13] <gregg_> jasoncohen: ubuntu's memtest is just fine. mersenne.org is the home of mprime thougg
[12:13] <Joose^> yes
[12:13] <kaffeend> well, if I can't manage to make a game run that was meant to run on Linux, I don't like my chances with windows games :s
[12:13] <Seveas> it did not boot anything?
[12:13] <gregg_> though
[12:13] <Joose^> Seveas yes
[12:13] <Joose^> i have to choose a option
[12:13] <Seveas> Joose^, change the 3 to 4
[12:14] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: how long have you been using linux?
[12:14] <Seveas> my mistake - the menu separator is counted too
[12:14] <Joose^> Seveas oka thanz... and the tiem is okay in 5 ?
[12:14] <salil> ubotu: help me with crontab
[12:14] <kaffeend> 3 days now thoreauputic
[12:14] <Seveas> Joose^, sure :)
[12:14] <kaffeend> 3 very long days
[12:14] <Joose^> Seveas :P okay... thanz again!
[12:14] <Seveas> salil, type sudo gedit /etc/crontab
[12:14] <sun_> the best days of one's life!
[12:15] <pc19> Seveas: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:15] <Seveas> and enter a timestamp and command to run
[12:15] <Seveas> pc19, when do you get that?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: the installation for your game sounded... non-trivial. I think you kind of were jumping in at the deep end
[12:15] <pc19> apt get update
[12:15] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: don't let that put you off, is what I'm saying
[12:15] <Seveas> pc19, close synaptic
[12:15] <salil> Seveas: what do i do there..?
[12:15] <kaffeend> thoreauputic hmmm... okay
[12:15] <Seveas> salil, you enter a timestamp in the format described there and the command you want to run
[12:16] <sun_> kaffeend: "The greatest test of courage is to bear defeat without losing heart."
[12:16] <kaffeend> I still have to get this working ASAP
[12:16] <salil> okay.. i'll try
[12:16] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: also the md5sum mismatch suggests something was wrong with the file
[12:16] <Seveas> to run something at 10am you type:
[12:16] <jasoncohen> gregg_, mrprime is a cpu test program? doesn't it just find primes?
[12:16] <Seveas> 0 10 * * * root /path/to/program
[12:16] <kaffeend> I don't want courage, sun_ I wanna frag ffs!
[12:16] <pc19> its a command?
[12:16] <jasoncohen> gregg_, i don't see anything about it being used as a tool to check the CPU
[12:17] <Seveas> pc19, do you have synaptic or another package manager open?
[12:17] <gregg_> jasoncohen: it has a special torture test mode that's specially designed for this purpose
[12:17] <jasoncohen> ok
[12:17] <apokryphos> Is there a command to check *Network* uptime?
[12:17] <gregg_> it's also commonly used for such things
[12:17] <sun_> kaffeend: what are "ffs"?
[12:17] <kaffeend> thoreauputic I'll download it again
[12:17] <pc19> no
[12:17] <Seveas> apokryphos, no
[12:17] <Spudchat> is there a better way to see what running than "ps"
[12:17] <kaffeend> ??
[12:17] <jasoncohen> gregg_, do you know what packages i need to satisfy its dependencies?
[12:17] <gregg_> jasoncohen: huh?
[12:17] <kaffeend> ffs = for fuck's sake
[12:18] <Spudchat> sorry whats running in the background
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I'm assuming your silence re: my little joke means you didn't appreciate it.. so be it.
[12:18] <apokryphos> Seveas: and nothing in /proc that might do it?
[12:18] <gregg_> jasoncohen: I'd simply grab the statically linked, precompiled executable :)
[12:18] <salil> Seveas: what do i give for minutely..??
[12:18] <Seveas> thoreauputic, I didn;t really appreciate it but didn't mind either :)
[12:18] <kaffeend> sun_ but thankyou for your encouragement :D
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK :)
[12:18] <Seveas> salil to run something at 10am you type:
[12:18] <Seveas> 0 10 * * * root /path/to/program
[12:18] <pc19> seveas:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[12:18] <sun_> speaking of games, does anyone play TC:E? it's quite enjoyable
[12:19] <Seveas> apokryphos, nope, nothing in /sys either
[12:19] <Seveas> pc19, ah!
[12:19] <Seveas> sudo apt-get update
[12:19] <salil> Seveas: i mean.. for minutes.. like in cron.weekly and cron.hourly.. for minutes what do i give..?
[12:19] <jasoncohen> gregg_, does it need to be run with root privileges?
[12:19] <apokryphos> :S
[12:19] <Seveas> salil, the point in time you want to run it
[12:19] <kaffeend> what genre is that sun_?
[12:19] <gregg_> jasoncohen: no
[12:19] <pc19> thanks
[12:19] <Seveas> and in cron.hourly/weekly you give no timestamps..
[12:19] <paxmaster> hello i am having problem with my palm sync to my computer
[12:20] <sun_> kaffeend: it is like counter-strike, but far more realistic; and open source! :)
[12:20] <kaffeend> sun_ ooh... reaaaally? Hmmm...
[12:20] <Seveas> salil, if you be a bit more specific in what you want to run and when, I can give you a pre-coooked example
[12:20] <kaffeend> FPS is my fav genre! ;)
[12:21] <salil> i want to turn off the modem... "poff" at 7 o'clock..
[12:21] <CarmenSandieg1> Why doesn't Ubuntu "support" libdvdcss2?
[12:21] <mark_> !backport
[12:21] <ubotu> methinks backport is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:21] <mark_> !backports
[12:21] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[12:21] <mark_> oops
[12:21] <jasoncohen> gregg_, ok i chose the "Options/Torture Test"
[12:21] <kaffeend> will I need cedega to run it sun_?
[12:21] <sun_> kaffeend: have a look: http://truecombat.com/intro.php
[12:21] <mark_> soz :D
[12:21] <kaffeend> looking now
[12:21] <mark_> bbs
[12:21] <sun_> kaffeend: it has native linux & windows binary
[12:21] <jasoncohen> gregg_, how long does it need to be run to find problems?
[12:21] <kaffeend> o_O
[12:21] <Seveas> salil: 0 7 * * * root /usr/bin/poff
[12:22] <kaffeend> binary? lovely
[12:22] <gregg_> jasoncohen: good question. :) probably half an hour is fine.
[12:22] <Seveas> that's the complete line to add to /etc/crontab
[12:22] <kaffeend> sun_ these weapon models look fantastic too!
[12:22] <salil> oh .. i think it worked..
[12:23] <jasoncohen> how accurate ar the SMART tests? A HD can still be failing even if it passes every test?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> salil: unless you meant 7 pm
[12:23] <sun_> kaffeend: yup. this game is a mod for "enemy territory"
[12:23] <salil> Seveas: thanks a lot
[12:23] <MartenH> kaffeend, what game are you talking about?
[12:23] <kaffeend> but that's RTCW mod
[12:23] <gregg_> jasoncohen: it'll try to recomputer known large primes and if that fails, you'll know you cpu is flaky/overheated/whatever
[12:23] <sun_> kaffeend: enemy territory (ET) has been made standalone & released under GPL many years ago
[12:23] <kaffeend> True Combat Elite MartenH
[12:23] <MartenH> kaffeend, I imagine it is playable on linux?
[12:23] <pc19> where do i get the name of the package
[12:24] <kaffeend> sun_ I see
[12:24] <^thehatsrule^> kaffeend: i play tce as well
[12:24] <sun_> MartenH: that is correct. you can get source or native linux/windows binary
[12:24] <kaffeend> sun_ I have been playing and modding for FarCry now for about 8 months
[12:24] <kev_> i just installed ubuntu 5.04. when i go to update packages it reports that it can't authenticate any of the packages. how do i go about adding the appropriate keys for the standard repositories?
[12:24] <Storm> Hi everyone, i have some sound problems, i cant get 5.1 surround, and the sound i got now scuurs and has lowlowlow quality. ANyone?
[12:25] <TerrorBite> I have a dodgy soundcard, picks up mobo noise
[12:25] <Seveas> Kev0r, the standard repository keys are installed automagically
[12:25] <TerrorBite> try wrapping it in tinfoil :=)
[12:25] <MartenH> sun_, nice. an donline gaming I assume?
[12:25] <sun_> kaffeend: cool; i hope you get to know TC:E better then :)
[12:25] <kaffeend> ^thehatsrule^ cool we can go afraggin together then! ;)
[12:25] <MartenH> sun_, how much does it cost?
[12:25] <sun_> MartenH: yes. it is an online-only game
[12:25] <pc19> seveas: cannot find package
[12:25] <sun_> MartenH: it is free as in beer & speech (GPL)
[12:25] <kaffeend> this game better not suck! :P
[12:26] <gregg_> Storm: some soundcards aren't fully supported with ubuntu. it might help if we knew the name of the card or better, chipset
[12:26] <pc19> E: Couldn't find package jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[12:26] <Seveas> pc19, hehe
[12:26] <thoreauputic> pc19: if you mean the name of a package you want to install, apt-cache search <keyword> will help
[12:26] <holycow> how the heck does norton ghost image hd's so quickly
[12:26] <Seveas> that's not the right command
[12:26] <kev_> Seveas: any thoughts on why it (dpkg or that little systray thing) would complain about not being able to authenticate the packages?
[12:26] <holycow> it must not write every byte to the platters like dd ... *hmmm*
[12:26] <Seveas> pc19, did you do: sudo apt-get install java-package
[12:26] <kaffeend> sun_ do I need enemy territory to install this as a mod?
[12:26] <Storm> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[12:26] <Seveas> kev_, perhaps you use nonstandard repositories
[12:26] <pc19> no
[12:26] <MartenH> sun_, the whole game? Nice! Where can I find more info? official website?
[12:26] <sun_> MartenH: have a look at the website truecombat.com/intro.php
[12:27] <sun_> MartenH: have a look at the website truecombat.com/intro.php
[12:27] <Seveas> pc19, then do that
[12:27] <MartenH> sun_, :) ty
[12:27] <pc19> sudo apt-get install jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586
[12:27] <pc19> .bin
[12:27] <TerrorBite> Storm: I have one of those too, but it works fine. It's built in
[12:27] <kev_> Seveas: this is in a fresh install. even on the first reboot when it goes on the network to download updated packages it complained. the install occurred ~5 min ago
[12:27] <Seveas> no
[12:27] <sun_> kaffeend: yes, you need ET for TC:E
[12:27] <pc19> this :sudo apt-get install jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586
[12:27] <Seveas> pc19, sudo apt-get install java-package
[12:27] <crimsun> Storm: are you using plug:surround51?
[12:27] <kaffeend> methinks maybe sun_ has been involved with this game's development :/
[12:27] <kaffeend> ok
[12:27] <Seveas> type that over literally
[12:27] <holycow> heh, good exit msg
[12:27] <pc19> ok
[12:27] <kaffeend> 2 downloads coming right up
[12:27] <sun_> kaffeend: i wish =) sorry, i'm just another player
[12:28] <Storm> crimsun: dont think so
[12:28] <kaffeend> ok
[12:28] <sun_> kaffeend: they have contact info on their website if you want to get involved
[12:28] <TerrorBite> storm: Do the drivers work?
[12:28] <Seveas> pc19, did that work?
[12:28] <kaffeend> this game's still in BETA
[12:29] <pc19> yes thanks
[12:29] <Seveas> pc19, ok, next step
[12:29] <Storm> TerrorBite: I havent gotten any spesial drivers :S
[12:29] <zkruw> anyone know how to burn an avi movie so im able to watch it on my standalone dvd-player? It dosent work like windows :S u know the burn data st
[12:29] <zkruw> uff
[12:29] <Seveas> pc19, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[12:29] <frank_b> hi all
[12:29] <Storm> lu
[12:30] <TerrorBite> Storm: Maybe you just have a dicky plug
[12:30] <sun_> kaffeend: quite right. they use logical versioning like many open source projects; so although it's BETA it's as good as CS
[12:30] <Storm> TerrorBite: Where can i get new plug?
[12:30] <TerrorBite> Storm: I'm assuming it's a built in VT82C686?
[12:31] <pc19> seveas: where do i learn this things
[12:31] <TerrorBite> Storm: Just clean it with a cotton bud, it might help
[12:31] <Storm> TerrorBite: I guess
[12:31] <salil> Seveas: it worked for the first time.. now its not working again..
[12:31] <jasoncohen> gregg_, will the tests just go on forever? it's on the second test now
[12:31] <Seveas> pc19, this thing is also explained on a wikipage
[12:31] <pc19> seveas: this work only in ubuntu?
[12:31] <Seveas> pc19, it's a debian thing
[12:31] <Storm> TerrorBite: its is a software problem.
[12:31] <jasoncohen> gregg_, or is there a certain number of tests it goes through
[12:31] <Seveas> pc19, did the fakeroot etc.... finish already?
[12:32] <pc19> not yet
[12:32] <frank_b> can someone tell me how to delete a directory owned by "root"?
[12:32] <TerrorBite> Storm: ok then, maybe you need better drivers
[12:32] <Seveas> frank_b, which directory?
[12:32] <diesel> I would like to use ssh to encrypt my web traffic.  How do I do that?
[12:32] <pc19> done
[12:33] <TerrorBite> frank_b: Open a root terminal then type "rmdir <path>" but make sure the dir is empty
[12:33] <Seveas> pc19, ok last step now
[12:33] <thoreauputic> frank_b: yes, but I'd like to know what it is first - it might be rather important :)
[12:33] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i sun*deb
[12:33] <pc19> cool
[12:33] <frank_b> Seveas: one called "winamp" in my home folder... (it appears with a key symbol in nautilus)
[12:33] <TerrorBite> thoreauputic: god point
[12:33] <Seveas> frank_b, sudo rm
[12:33] <TerrorBite> *good even
[12:33] <Ozziej> hi
[12:33] <kaffeend> sun_ I remember when we all used to play Rogue Spear... It was da bomb, and then I got to be a part of a beta testing team for Half Life. We were all gaga over the graphics, and some of the guys said "hey, let's mod this engine to recreate Rogue Spear"... I don't know for sure, but I think that may have been the birth of CS - which is just a mod after all.
[12:33] <Seveas> frank_b, sudo rm -r /home/YOUR_USERNAME/winamp
[12:34] <gregg_> no, just different primes
[12:34] <gregg_> jasoncohen: no, just different primes
[12:34] <frank_b> Seveas: thanks. I'll try that one.
[12:35] <salil> Seveas: 44 4	5 * *   salil	/usr/bin/poff................ this is it no..??
[12:35] <TerrorBite> Seveas: I heep forgetting about sudo, it's new to me. It prompts for the root password in a little box, yes?
[12:35] <Seveas> salil, that would only work on 4:44 am on the 5th of every mothn
[12:35] <Seveas> and would run as user salil
[12:36] <frank_b> (to all: I've tried using the root terminal, entering the command "rmdir" but it said the directory was not empty, therefore it wouldn delete it. I tried the "--ignore..." option then, but nothing happened...)
[12:36] <kaffeend> a quick question - can I play this game on my 64 bit system?
[12:36] <Seveas> poff should be run as root iirc
[12:36] <thoreauputic> TerrorBite: you are thinking of gksudo - sudo prompts on a new line in the terminal
[12:36] <salil> Seveas:  yes.. that is what i want.. but its is not working..
[12:36] <pc19> seveas: last step?
[12:36] <frank_b> I'll try the rm option
[12:36] <Seveas> frank_b, rm -r is a recursive remove
[12:36] <Seveas> pc19, sudo dpkg -i sun*deb
[12:36] <Storm> TerrorBite: Working on it :P
[12:36] <salil> it should work rite now on my computer .. but its not working..
[12:36] <salil> Seveas: it should work rite now on my computer .. but its not working.
[12:36] <Seveas> salil, it's :36 now, not :44 :)
[12:37] <TerrorBite> thoreauputic: thanks
[12:37] <frank_b> Seveas: yes, thanks! it worked! :)
[12:37] <salil> Seveas: in my computer.. its 46 now..
[12:37] <Seveas> ah
[12:37] <thoreauputic> Seveas: poff doesn't need root if run by a user in the dialup and dip groups
[12:37] <Seveas> salil, odd
[12:37] <TerrorBite> thoreauputic: sort of like su - -c '<command>'?
[12:37] <Seveas> maybe you put it in too late
[12:37] <Seveas> try with :55 now
[12:37] <salil> Seveas: how come..?
[12:38] <Ozziej> hi
[12:38] <Seveas> thoreauputic, check, thanks
[12:38] <thoreauputic> TerrorBite: try it and see - yes, similar
[12:38] <confrey> how can I force apt to use debs from local archives before using debs from internet archives?
[12:38] <sun_> kaffeend, wow you've been modding since back then?
[12:38] <salil> Seveas: i'm trying with 50
[12:38] <TerrorBite> thoreauputic: sorry, love to try but I'm currently on Windows :-(
[12:38] <salil> Seveas: btw.. how to you know what time it is here...?
[12:38] <kaffeend> sun_ no I was just playing then - only started modding about 8 months ago
[12:38] <frank_b> thank you everyone. bye. :)
[12:39] <thoreauputic> TerrorBite: ah, that will cramp you a little, yes ;)
[12:39] <Seveas> salil, my clock is synchronized to a timeserver
[12:39] <TerrorBite> lol
[12:39] <Seveas> if yours were synchronized, it would be :39 now too on your pc
[12:39] <salil> Seveas: mine.. is not.. mine is my home time..
[12:39] <salil> Seveas: it is 4 in the afternoon..?
[12:39] <sun_> kaffeend, so what motivated you to try ubuntu?
[12:40] <Seveas> salil I said nothing about the hour :0
[12:40] <Seveas> :(
[12:40] <Seveas> :)
[12:40] <kaffeend> is there any reason java would be preventing the download of this file?
[12:40] <Seveas> dang...
[12:40] <Positron> i heard that ndiswrapper is available with ubuntu ; yet, i dont find it in synaptic
[12:40] <salil> Seveas: ooh.. okay..
[12:40] <kaffeend> windows shat itself
[12:40] <Seveas> salil, 4 in the afternoon is 16, not 4!
[12:40] <skalpel_> can someone tell me why cdrecord will not work for me even though i am using the correct device node?
[12:40] <Squall> ellow, i got a little problem with passwords
[12:40] <crimsun> skalpel_: are you using /dev/hdX ?
[12:40] <TerrorBite> kaffeend: that i'd like to see
[12:40] <Squall> i just booted an old computer
[12:40] <salil> Seveas: yes.. its 4 in the  morning here.. i thought it was 4 in the afternoon at your place..
[12:40] <Squall> but i forgot the passwords
[12:40] <sun_> kaffeend, good reason :)
[12:40] <skalpel_> crimsun: yes
[12:40] <Seveas> :)
[12:40] <Squall> how can i get it back?
[12:41] <Seveas> salil, no it's 00:40 here :)
[12:41] <salil> Seveas:  okay
[12:41] <pc19> seveas: thats cool. thanks a lot!
[12:41] <kaffeend> sun_ Ubuntu seemed the right mix of user friendly gui and rock solid stability - from what I had heard
[12:41] <Seveas> pc19, to save up diskspace, remove the ,bin and the .deb again
[12:41] <kaffeend> ] TerrorBite windows shitting itself?
[12:41] <Seveas> you don't need them anymore :)
[12:41] <salil> Seveas: its still not working..
[12:41] <pc19> where do i find them?
[12:42] <salil> Seveas: i don't know.. what is wrong
[12:42] <Squall> anyone can help? give me link?
[12:42] <pc19> i saw them
[12:42] <pc19> lol
[12:42] <skalpel_> crimsun: /dev/hdc to be exacty
[12:42] <TerrorBite> kaffeend: but then it does it all the time, doesn't it? Blue screens and all of that
[12:42] <salil> Seveas: when i hit gedit /etc/crontab.. then i get some warnings..
[12:42] <pc19> hehehehe im leaving windows soon
[12:42] <kaffeend> yeah
[12:42] <pc19> lol
[12:42] <Seveas> salil, copy your crontab on the pastebin please
[12:42] <skalpel_> how do i switch to window 11, 12 etc in irssi, anyone know?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: you can tell when windows is really unhealthy by the blue colour of its faeces ;)
[12:42] <Seveas> and the warnings with it
[12:42] <Seveas> skalpel, /win 12
[12:42] <skalpel_> k
[12:42] <salil> Seveas: what is a paste bin??
[12:43] <TerrorBite> thoreauputic: lol
[12:43] <jasoncohen> pc19, why don't you just enable hoary-extras and "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"
[12:43] <Seveas> salil, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:43] <salil> Seveas: ooh :)
[12:43] <Goodspeed> ok i have a .1386 file with no extension
[12:43] <Goodspeed> if i set it to .tar
[12:43] <Squall> anyone wants to help an idiot?
[12:43] <Seveas> jasoncohen, (s)he had already downloaded the .bin :)
[12:43] <Goodspeed> it has the file . and then the subs usr in it
[12:43] <Goodspeed> how do i use this file?
[12:43] <skalpel_> crimsun: you there?
[12:43] <apokryphos> Squall: no-one can without knowing the problem/issue
[12:43] <TerrorBite> Squall, why else are we here?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Squall: wow, that's a great opening line!
[12:43] <jasoncohen> Seveas, he's been working on it for a while. it would have been installed a long time ago if he just used the deb
[12:43] <crimsun> skalpel_: what error are you getting?
[12:43] <pc19> Jasoncohen: how is that
[12:44] <kaffeend> windows has encountered a problem and needs to be shut down. Any unsaved work will be torn from you and fed to the demons of hell. Send error report if you want, but we don't read them, so you may as well fuck yourself! We apologize for the inconvenience.
[12:44] <jasoncohen> pc19, how is what?
[12:44] <Squall> thoreauputic i had an opening line earlyer
[12:44] <Seveas> jasoncohen, not per se
[12:44] <salil> Seveas: i did it..
[12:44] <Seveas> downloading from hoary-extras is slow :)
[12:44] <Squall> i need root password recovery help
[12:44] <Squall> i got the computer right next to me
[12:44] <deprave> how do you make a new window in irssi
[12:44] <pc19> Jasoncohen: so new with linux. dont know what u mean?
[12:44] <Squall> how do i do it?
[12:44] <TerrorBite> I better go, Storm, frank_b, thoreauputic, kaffeend and that - see ya later
[12:44] <jasoncohen> Seveas, not for me
[12:44] <Seveas> Squall: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:44] <skalpel_> crimsun: i got this error whern i used -scanbus
[12:44] <thoreauputic> Squall: if it's Ubuntu,boot in recovery mode
[12:44] <skalpel_> crimsun: cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[12:44] <kaffeend> cya terrorbite
[12:44] <jasoncohen> !tell pc19 about java
[12:44] <crimsun> skalpel_: you're not supposed to use -scanbus
[12:44] <Squall> Seveas: i know that. i dont know root or user passwords :>
[12:45] <jasoncohen> pc19, if you follow those instructions you can easily install java from synaptic
[12:45] <skalpel_>  crimsun: from what i know my drive uses atapi drivers
[12:45] <jasoncohen> pc19, or apt-get
[12:45] <Squall> thoreauputic: after i boot to recovery what do i do?
[12:45] <crimsun> skalpel_: dev=/dev/hdc should work just fine
[12:45] <jasoncohen> pc19, first follow this guide -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories to add hoary-extras
[12:45] <jasoncohen> pc19, then "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re-1.5"
[12:46] <salil> Seveas: i posted it in the pastebin
[12:46] <Seveas> salil, looks right to me
[12:46] <Seveas> salil, what is the warning you get?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> Squall: you can make a new user with the adduser command, for example (you should get a root prompt by default)
[12:46] <Ozziej> hi, im having a problem with the nvidia driver installer, could someone please read this log http://www.farg.demon.nl/nvidia-installer.log i have the right kernel headers installed
[12:46] <bolsh> Hi
[12:46] <Seveas> jasoncohen, he already has java now!!
[12:46] <salil> Seveas: shall i post that too??
[12:46] <pc19> Jasoncohen: jewish?
[12:46] <Seveas> please don't confuse people
[12:46] <Seveas> salil, please do
[12:46] <bolsh> I'm having trouble with my keyboard layout, just after installing hoary
[12:46] <mike_> hmm
[12:46] <Squall> thoreauputic botter the recovery a few hours earlyer but all i got was a login prompt
[12:46] <jasoncohen> pc19, yes
[12:46] <Squall> :>
[12:46] <bolsh> I have a mac keyboard (chosen)
[12:46] <skalpel_> crimsun: can you give me an example of how wildcards work in unix?
[12:47] <salil> Seveas:  okay
[12:47] <Seveas> pc19, don't type the sudo apt-get install that jasoncohen gave you
[12:47] <Seveas> pc19, you already have java, installing it twice is pointless
[12:47] <crimsun> skalpel_: cp * /tmp/.
[12:47] <bolsh> which I also identified during the install (why isn't the same layout carried over after the install, I wonder?)
[12:47] <jasoncohen> Seveas, oh, so you were just telling him to remove the .deb to save space?
[12:47] <skalpel_> ok
[12:47] <jasoncohen> pc19, nevermind then
[12:47] <Seveas> jasoncohen, yeah
[12:47] <thoreauputic> Squall: try hitting ctrl-d
[12:47] <Firetech> I want to be able to make caps lock itself do nothing, while alt+caps lock should act as caps lock normally would do. This is possible to do in the console by changing the kmap files, but in X I can't find out how... Anyone here that has an idea about this?
[12:47] <bolsh> But a bunch of keys aren't the same as in the mac layout~$ for example
[12:47] <Squall> thoreauputic: thx will try
[12:48] <salil> Seveas: can you make anything out of that..?
[12:48] <jasoncohen> pc19, yes, i am
[12:48] <teferi> hmm, curioser and curioser.
[12:48] <teferi> looking at /proc/kallsyms tlels me that at least some of the atheros driver functions got linked into the kernel...
[12:48] <teferi> it's like the modules are somehow half-loaded
[12:48] <skalpel_> crimsun: what would i use to sepreate multiple directories that i want to write to disc, a comma?
[12:49] <Seveas> salil, irrelevant error, has nothing to do with this
[12:49] <teferi> very, very weird
[12:49] <crimsun> skalpel_: no, whitespace
[12:49] <skalpel_> crimsun: thank you very much
[12:49] <salil> Seveas: okay... . so what do you think i should do ..?
[12:49] <bolsh> Plus the keyboard manager keeps crashing on me
[12:49] <Seveas> salil, no idea really....
[12:49] <Seveas> are you sure you saved the file in time?
[12:50] <skalpel_> crimsun: can i paste you the error message i am getting?
[12:50] <salil> Seveas: yes.. its just as it says in the pastebin..
[12:50] <Seveas> salil, also: do you get any info from /var/log/messages about it?
[12:50] <kaffeend> sun_ is it normal to download a page full of commands?
[12:50] <salil> Seveas: no..
[12:50] <crimsun> skalpel_: paste in #flood
[12:51] <Ozziej> no one can help me with my problem? log-> http://www.farg.demon.nl/nvidia-installer.log <- i have to use the manual install because any driver newer than 4496 doesnt work correctly
[12:51] <skalpel_> crimsun: get that?
[12:52] <Seveas> Ozziej, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:52] <Ozziej> whats aptitude?
[12:52] <crimsun> skalpel_: medium error? got a blank cdr in the drive?
[12:52] <Seveas> Ozziej, it's a package manager
[12:52] <skalpel> crimsun: cd-rw, i do not get this error when i write to cd-r
[12:53] <crimsun> skalpel: sounds like a hardware issue or a cd-rw media issue, then.
[12:53] <crimsun> Ozziej: you'll need the 2.6 patches from minion.de
[12:53] <skalpel> crimsun: what do you mean by cd-rw issue?
[12:53] <skalpel> i never had any of these problems in windows, i burned several cd-rw discs before switching to ubuntu
[12:53] <crimsun> skalpel: as in the cd-rw you used isn't blank or is closed.
[12:54] <skalpel> crimsun: how do i blank a disc (i already did this in gnomebaker but iw ill try it again)
[12:54] <crimsun> skalpel: it's in the instructions.
[12:54] <kaffeend> I just tried to download this game, and all I got was a page full of text that starts with: #!/bin/sh
[12:54] <kaffeend> # This script was generated using Makeself 2.1.1
[12:54] <kaffeend> CRCsum="1634970702"
[12:54] <kaffeend> MD5="f76b8599439dd882a52ba038d4700edc"
[12:54] <kaffeend> TMPROOT=${TMPDIR:=/tmp}
[12:54] <crimsun> use -help or --help
[12:54] <kaffeend> does anyone know what I'm meant to do with it?
[12:54] <Seveas> kaffeend, save that as runme.sh
[12:54] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: it's a script
[12:54] <kaffeend> okies
[12:54] <pc19> seveas: how do i install printer thru network?
[12:54] <Seveas> kaffeend, then type chmod +x runme.sh
[12:54] <kaffeend> cool
[12:54] <black_Nightmare> hey there
[12:54] <Ozziej> crimsun, minion.de doesnt provide the patches anymore
[12:54] <Seveas> kaffeend, then type ./runme.sh
[12:55] <black_Nightmare> just wondering but there any audio player with ubuntu itself?
[12:55] <Seveas> pc19, system->administration->printing
[12:55] <Squall> thoreauputic: im still stuck. i did ctrl+d and got to the login prompt?
[12:55] <crimsun> Ozziej: http://sh.nu/download/nvidia/linux-2.6/
[12:55] <Seveas> pc19, printer-> add printer
[12:55] <Seveas> pc19, then choose network printer
[12:55] <skalpel> crimsun: when i try to blank the disc i get this error: drecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[12:55] <bolsh> Nightmare...
[12:55] <Seveas> and select the type of it and type its name
[12:56] <crimsun> skalpel: are you using dev=/dev/hdc ?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> Squall: that's odd - I just booted frome recovery mode here on another old machine and got a root prompt
[12:56] <black_Nightmare> bolsh yes?
[12:56] <bolsh> I just want stuff to work... how many mac keyboard layouts are there for French?
[12:56] <Ozziej> thanx crimsun
[12:56] <skalpel> i am now.
[12:56] <bolsh> black_Nightmare, Not you, this keyboard configuration problem :)
[12:56] <thoreauputic> Squall: you know what a root prompt looks like, I assume?
[12:56] <kaffeend> okay, this time I wrote those things down in gedit ;)
[12:56] <black_Nightmare> lol
[12:56] <kaffeend> so I won't have to ask again
[12:56] <black_Nightmare> anyone?
[12:56] <bolsh> The keyboard configuration application keeps dying on me if I choose any of the alternative French layouts
[12:57] <lui> people, I can't play mp3's with Rhythmbox 0.8.8
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Squall: did you hit <escape> to get the grub menu ?
[12:57] <Ozziej> oke, i'll try installing the drivers again
[12:57] <Ozziej> brb
[12:57] <bolsh> The default GFrench layout with Mac keyboard looks great in the graphical preview, but the keys don't match
[12:57] <Squall> thoreauputic: tryping what i saw: give root password for maintenance or type contral-d for normal starup:
[12:57] <lui> anyone knows why?
[12:57] <Squall> so i did ctrl-d
[12:57] <Squall> i f*cked up?
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Squall: is this hoary?
[12:58] <Squall> thoreauputic: warty
[12:58] <lui> it tells me i haven't a pluggin for mp3 installed but the system seems ok
[12:58] <Seveas> lui, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:58] <lui> ok Seveas. let me try that
[12:58] <Squall> i dont have any hoary install cd
[12:58] <Squall> so i just net upgrade it usualy
[12:58] <Squall> :>
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Squall: hmmm - not sure what the default behaviour is for warty - for hoary recovery mode gives  a root prompt
[12:58] <skalpel> crimsun: i get this message: cdrecord: Drive needs to reload the media to return to proper status.
[12:58] <kaffeend> also - whenever I drag a window it leaves an ugly trail of it's own image wherever I drag it and I can't read anything... does anyone else have this problem?
[12:59] <skalpel> crimsun: and then it opens the drawer and then closes it before writing
[12:59] <crimsun> skalpel: then you need to follow those directions. Sorry, I'm busy.
[12:59] <black_Nightmare> I need to ask because I need to run a disc cleaner and I have to specific an audio player to run track 1
[12:59] <pc19> seveas: i will use windows printer: SMB
[12:59] <Squall> anyone else has any idea how to recover password on warty?
[01:00] <pc19> seveas: what will i put in host?
[01:00] <Seveas> pc19, the IP address of the machine that the printer is connected to
[01:00] <lui> Seveas: it shows me this msg >>>  Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gstreamer0.8-mad"
[01:00] <lui> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[01:00] <Seveas> lui, you might need to enable universe
[01:00] <Squall> looks like reinstalling is the only option
[01:01] <Joose^> hi again...
[01:01] <lui> and how can I do that?
[01:01] <Ozziej> crimsun, i got another error this time, ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'
[01:01] <crimsun> Ozziej: look at the installer log. Sorry, I'm very busy atm.
[01:01] <black_Nightmare> another Q..is there a probe for to see a full table of the res/etc your card could do?
[01:01] <kaffeend> how do I stop this graphics problem please?
[01:01] <thoreauputic> Squall: if you can chroot from a live CD you should be able to fix it
[01:01] <Joose^> how i can listen mp3 files on totem?
[01:01] <jasoncohen> gregg_, well the CPU doesn't appear to be the problem. i've already run through 6 tests over 40 minutes
[01:02] <jasoncohen> gregg_, 3 1024K passes and 3 8K passes, now doing 10K
[01:02] <Squall> thoreauputic: only live cd is hoary and i cant boot it on a p1 with 64mb with any speed :>
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Joose^: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:02] <Joose^> how?
[01:02] <pc19> seveas: im on dhcp, so how do i do that?
[01:02] <jasoncohen> gregg_, it doesn't even appear to have slowed down the machine - cpu usage is 100% but it still runs fine
[01:03] <kaffeend> how do I stop this graphics problem please? where I drag the window and it paints itself all over the screen?
[01:03] <Stormx> GAH
[01:03] <Stormx> Guys...
[01:03] <Seveas> pc19, the windows machine name may work too
[01:03] <Stormx> How do you make Nautilus actually show hidden files.......
[01:03] <lui> Seveas: what is that universe you told me?
[01:03] <Stormx> I've checked the god damn "show hidden and system files" box
[01:03] <Stormx> but no.
[01:03] <Joose^> how i install gstreamer0.8-mad, please a newbie
[01:04] <pc19> seveas: driver is not on the list
[01:04] <Joose^> i am a newbie
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Squall: you might be able to use the install CD as a rescue disc - I forget the exact way but when it starts you can press F1 or F2 or something to get a list of options
[01:04] <Stormx> Applications > System Tools > Add / Remove Programs
[01:04] <kaffeend> !multimedia
[01:04] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[01:04] <Stormx> Press "Advanced"
[01:04] <Seveas> lui, did you ever change /etc/apt/sources.list yourself?
[01:04] <Seveas> Joose^, enable universe
[01:04] <Squall> thoreauputic: ok will try. thx
[01:04] <Stormx> Hey Seveas: Nautilus won't let me see hidden files.
[01:05] <Seveas> Stormx, the bastard :)
[01:05] <Joose^> Seveas umm? sorry i don't understand.. :P
[01:05] <Stormx> Yep
[01:05] <lui> Seveas: no man I don't
[01:05] <Stormx> He's damn evil
[01:05] <Seveas> lui, great, make it easy :)
[01:05] <Stormx> is there so way I can tempt him into letting me see them?
[01:05] <Squall> thoreauputic: btw do you by any chance know if ubuntu has fluxbox .deb`s?
[01:05] <Seveas> lui, type this command:
[01:05] <skalpel> how do i set the startup size for my gnome-terminal?
[01:05] <Seveas> lui: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Joose^: read the URL ubotu will spit out below
[01:05] <thoreauputic> !repos
[01:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:05] <Stormx> Yo Seveas, any suggestions?
[01:05] <Seveas> lui, then you do sudo apt-get update
[01:05] <Stormx> !MAKE NAUTILUS WORK DAMN YOU
[01:05] <Seveas> and you can install it :)
[01:05] <ubotu> Stormx: Are you smoking crack?
[01:05] <SuperID> there are no packages for linmodem?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Squall: yes, it does, in universe
[01:06] <Seveas> Stormx, chill....
[01:06] <SuperID> !linmodem
[01:06] <ubotu> SuperID: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:06] <Stormx> lol
[01:06] <Squall> great
[01:06] <Squall> thx
[01:06] <Stormx> I just wanted to see what it would do ;-)
[01:06] <Stormx> No but really...
[01:06] <Joose^> i download the gstreamer0.8.10 but i don't how instal lit
[01:06] <Stormx> how do i get it to show em.
[01:06] <lui> Seveas: ok man thanks!, let me try that now.
[01:06] <Seveas> dunno Stormx, works fine here...
[01:06] <Stormx> _ its crazy
[01:06] <Seveas> Joose^, you don't
[01:06] <kaffeend> Can anyone please help me... Whenever5 I drag a window it leaves a smudge of it's own image all over my monitor! What can I do to fix it please?
[01:06] <Seveas> Joose^, you install stuff via the package manager
[01:07] <Seveas> not by randomly downloading things
[01:07] <Joose^> Seveas terminal not?
[01:07] <jason_> anyone know how i get the ncurses network setup again after i've already installed?
[01:07] <jason_> is there a package i can reconfigure?
[01:07] <Stormx> It must be demanding being omniscient eh Seveas? ;-)
[01:07] <Seveas> jason_, base-config
[01:07] <jason_> Seveas: thx
[01:07] <Seveas> Joose^, did you ever edit /etc/apt/sources.list yourself?
[01:08] <jason_> i tried netbase...
[01:08] <bolsh> Another most annoying problem is that in the gdm screen, the keyboard layout stays US which is awfully annoying of you have an azerty keyboard
[01:08] <kaffeend> Stormx not to mention constantly awake!
[01:08] <Joose^> Seveas no
[01:08] <Seveas> Joose^, great, that makes it easy :
[01:08] <Seveas> :)
[01:08] <Seveas> Joose^: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <Seveas> Joose^: sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <Seveas> Joose^: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:09] <Seveas> there - gstreamer0.8 in 3 easy commands :)
[01:09] <Joose^> Seveas but i am no on ubuntu
[01:10] <penticlex> I cant compile wine WTF
[01:10] <Seveas> Joose^, then write down these commands :)
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Joose^: well get on ubuntu so you can do commands - hard to help you otherwise
[01:10] <Stormx> xD
[01:10] <Seveas> Joose^, do you have an internet connection when you're on Ubuntu?
[01:11] <thoreauputic> penticlex: you don't need to compile wine - it's in the repositories
[01:11] <thoreauputic> !info wine
[01:11] <skalpel> can someone help me write a cd onthe command line?
[01:11] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[01:11] <Joose^> Seveas xD i tried to find the driver to my modem
[01:11] <Razor-X> and the version in the repositories is pretty nice
[01:11] <penticlex> not for the 64 bit ver
[01:11] <Razor-X> skalpel: ``man cdrecord'' for details on how to use cdrecord
[01:11] <Stormx> skalpel: Its cd record
[01:11] <Stormx> *cdrecord
[01:11] <Joose^> Seveas it's a Intel 537EP
[01:11] <thoreauputic> penticlex: does a 64 bit version even exist?
[01:11] <Seveas> Joose^, ah, if you have no internet connection it's a bit different....
[01:12] <Stormx> !into ubotu
[01:12] <ubotu> I don't know, Stormx
[01:12] <Joose^> and i cann't configure it
[01:12] <Stormx> !info ubuntu
[01:12] <Stormx> package "ubuntu" does not exist ;-)
[01:12] <penticlex> C compiler cannot create executables
[01:12] <Squall> cant find anything smart here
[01:12] <crimsun> penticlex: install build-essential
[01:12] <Joose^> Seveas can u help me how to configured my modem to connect for dial-up unless
[01:12] <Squall> overwriting system
[01:13] <Seveas> Joose^, i'm afraid i can't
[01:13] <thoreauputic> penticlex: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:13] <penticlex> no the package doesnt exist thats why I am trying to compile it
[01:13] <Joose^> Seveas xD
[01:13] <Stormx> hah
[01:13] <Seveas> not on my own pc's at least...
[01:13] <Stormx> I have
[01:13] <Joose^> :P
[01:13] <Stormx> its like trying to push a fat person off a cliff
[01:13] <kaffeend> can someone please help me with this graphics DYSFUNCTION please???
[01:13] <Stormx> what happened?
[01:14] <Joose^> i have to buy broand band now!
[01:14] <Joose^> :P
[01:14] <puff> Hm.
[01:14] <bolsh> kaffeend, sorry, I'm stuck in my keyboard problem...
[01:14] <penticlex> no the package doesnt exist thats why I am trying to compile it
[01:14] <lui> Seveas: I have done the apt-get update. And now? "$sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad"?
[01:14] <kaffeend> hmmm...
[01:14] <mike> anyone here good with mysql?
[01:14] <Seveas> lui, yup
[01:15] <Seveas> mike, I know my way around it
[01:15] <lui> ok.. here I go...!
[01:15] <penticlex> I did sudo apt-get install build-essential and still getting same err
[01:15] <kaffeend> my windows are refreshing themselves onto previous pages
[01:15] <smykes> are there any musicians in the channel?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> lui: without the $ of course :)
[01:15] <Seveas> penticlex, what are you compiling?
[01:15] <bolsh> mike, depends. What do you need?
[01:15] <mike> Seveas, i'm getting an error stating that Warning: mysql_connect(): Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL
[01:15] <penticlex> wine
[01:15] <kaffeend> it takes 5 minutes for a window to close or minimise
[01:15] <mike> this is my code in php
[01:16] <kaffeend> it's turning into a Windows machine
[01:16] <Seveas> mike, so you have a mysql server installed on your machine?
[01:16] <bolsh> mike, You need to grant yourself permission to connect from loxcalhost.localdomain
[01:16] <kaffeend> fuck!
[01:16] <penticlex> the config.log states I nead lgcc
[01:16] <lui> Seveas: Done man!
[01:16] <penticlex> but I cant find it
[01:16] <mike> db_connect($sql_host, $sql_user, $sql_password, $sql_db);
[01:16] <mike> i thought i did that
[01:16] <Seveas> penticlex, grab wine from the repositories
[01:16] <bolsh> mike, With the mysql client connect wuth mysql -uroot -p
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Seveas: he's on amd64
[01:17] <lui> Seveas: now I can play MP3's?
[01:17] <bolsh> write the mysql root password you set before
[01:17] <penticlex> I nead the 64 bit ver
[01:17] <Seveas> thoreauputic, oh....
[01:17] <bolsh> then "use mysql"
[01:17] <Seveas> lui, with totem and rhythbox you can now play mp3s
[01:17] <bolsh> and "grant all to  on localhost.localdomain;"
[01:17] <kaffeend> when my windows finally minimize they leave black squares all over the desktop
[01:17] <bolsh> that  is supposed to be a * I'm having keyboard layout issues
[01:17] <Seveas> bolsh, by default mysql has root without password :)
[01:17] <lui> jejeje, let's see...
[01:18] <bolsh> Seveas, Yes
[01:18] <thoreauputic> kaffeend:  :((   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:18] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: sounds weird
[01:18] <mike> bolsh, i did that
[01:18] <subterrific> dpkg-reconfigure base-config did not work :(
[01:18] <puff> Hm... so i installed the java 1.5 JDK, went like a charm, but I need to work on some 1.4.2 code, specifically i just need to get it compiled to 1.4.2 so i can deploy it and fix something.
[01:18] <kaffeend> what's that for?
[01:18] <mike> mysql> grant all to * on localhost.localdomain
[01:19] <puff> But it's giving me "No matching plugin was found"
[01:19] <puff> Doing the whole java-package fakeroot make-package thing.
[01:19] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: to reconfigure your graphics, in inaccurate and simple terms
[01:19] <Seveas> puff, odd, works fine here
[01:19] <yor> ey alle gassies
[01:19] <skalpel> what does this error mean when trying to burn a disc? Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
[01:19] <skalpel> Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
[01:19] <skalpel> Sense flags: Blk 0 (valid)
[01:19] <kaffeend> thoreauputic ok thanks - will give it a shot
[01:19] <yor> ey guise
[01:20] <Seveas> yor, this is an english channel...
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> skalpel: it means something went wrong
[01:20] <yor> o sorry
[01:20] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: something is deeply wrong, clearly
[01:20] <skalpel> hrdwrbob: any idea what? i kow it only does thsi when i use cd-rw, but that is it
[01:20] <hmrocha> hi, i'm using breezy, it's working almost fine
[01:21] <hmrocha> when i start gnome, it shows an error about my keyboard
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> skalpel: not sure
[01:21] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: the only other reason for that kind of behaviour I can think of is if something is hogging your resources
[01:21] <hmrocha> and openoffice doesn't run anymore
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> skalpel: easiest way to avoid it, don't use CD-RW :)
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> I never used them anyway
[01:21] <mike> erm, actually says this
[01:21] <mike> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'to * on localhost.localdomain
[01:21] <lui> Seveas: man, you're my hero!! jejejejeje ;-)
[01:21] <yor> do enybody know if somody can go prifet??
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> mike: yeah it's wrong iirc, isn't the syntax user%host ?
[01:22] <hmrocha> do you know any quick fixes for the keyboard error?
[01:22] <windex> yor, your sentence just managed to break my mind.
[01:22] <thoreauputic> hmrocha: if breezy breaks you get to keep the pieces :) See /topic
[01:22] <Seveas> yor what do you need?
[01:22] <puff> Seveas: On 1.4.2?
[01:22] <Seveas> puff, yup
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> windex: he wants to ask a question privately
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> yor: in the channel is fine
[01:22] <kaffeend> thoreauputic what should I do for the busid?
[01:22] <hmrocha> thoreauputic, X is working fine
[01:22] <Seveas> I need it too since I'm forced to use broken software for my work that does not compile with 1.5
[01:22] <puff> Hm... did you have 1.5 installed at all?
[01:22] <yor> i wannaknow if i can tolk prifet whit someone
[01:22] <Seveas> yor, about what?
[01:22] <mike> HrdwrBoB, with user@ still has the error
[01:22] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: just hit enter
[01:22] <yor> i don't know
[01:22] <kaffeend> k
[01:23] <skalpel> yor: i like coffee
[01:23] <yor> me 2
[01:23] <Seveas> yor, this is a support channel for ubuntu linux, if you want to talk about other things, go somewhere else
[01:23] <windex> HrdwrBoB, your english parser is evidently much more effective as gibberish dialects.
[01:23] <kaffeend> damn - now bus identifier!!!
[01:23] <yor> oke
[01:23] <yor> but i don't know mush about ubunto
[01:23] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: hit enter again
[01:24] <kaffeend> just keep hittion it?
[01:24] <lui> Seveas: thank you very much
[01:24] <Seveas> lui, yw
[01:24] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: no, answer the questions you can
[01:24] <CarmenSandieg1> Oh what tangled webs we weave! :-D
[01:24] <hmrocha> do you know if gnumeric opens ms excel file format?
[01:24] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: I assume you know your hardware?
[01:25] <kaffeend> yep
[01:25] <windex> hmrocha, i beleive it does. open office most certianly does.
[01:25] <kaffeend> to a point - I built the bastard
[01:25] <hmrocha> windex, open office is not working in breezy
[01:25] <kaffeend> well, I'm giving myself more vid ram while I have the chance!
[01:25] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: choose the driver carefully - if the default is right just go with it though
[01:25] <hmrocha> i'll try gnumeric
[01:25] <windex> hmrocha, sounds like if you're running breezy not having productivity applications is the least of your problems. :)
[01:26] <skalpel> is it common for small mp3 files i burn to a cd-rw disc in data format to all be over 7 mb, some as large as 21 mb?
[01:26] <kaffeend> ok - now what's 128 meg in kb plz?
[01:26] <Seveas> !128*1024
[01:26] <ubotu> 131072
[01:26] <puff> So i tried just invoking the bin, figure I'll unpack it, set the environment variables myself, compile the code and move on ith my life.
[01:26] <kaffeend> 1280?
[01:26] <puff> ./j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:26] <Seveas> ^--kaffeend
[01:26] <yor> can i have enybody's e mail??????????????????
[01:26] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: see ubotu above
[01:27] <Seveas> puff, wait a bit :)
[01:27] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: Seveas got the bot to do it
[01:27] <puff> Seveas: Come again?
[01:27] <kaffeend> nice bot we got here
[01:27] <Seveas> i'm searching for my java 1.4 deb :)
[01:27] <puff> Ah.
[01:27] <equex> ack gotta reconfigure x again
[01:27] <kaffeend> thanks seveas
[01:27] <puff> That would be cool :-).
[01:27] <Seveas> dunno on which server I put it
[01:27] <Seveas> so i'm running updatedb's all over the place :)
[01:27] <yor> can i have enybody's email??
[01:27] <Goodspeed> how do i add a module for startup in terminal?
[01:28] <kaffeend> use kernel frame buffer?
[01:28] <puff> I was trying to get java for mozilla working, wonder if that could be gumming it up.
[01:28] <Seveas> Goodspeed, you meen a kernel module?
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Goodspeed: sudo nano /etc/modules
[01:28] <puff> Can probalby just un-apt that.
[01:28] <Goodspeed> sure i want to add fglrx
[01:28] <hmrocha> windex, i don't use openoffice to write documents, i use LaTeX
[01:28] <hmrocha> windex, i just want open office to open the schedule for this semester
[01:29] <windex> hmrocha, i am not sure if i should be impressed or scared. :)
[01:29] <Razor-X> hmrocha: excellent ;)
[01:29] <kaffeend> thoreauputic do I use the kernel frame buffer?
[01:29] <Razor-X> windex: I use LaTeX myself
[01:29] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: do you have a crt ?
[01:29] <kaffeend> yep
[01:29] <hmrocha> windex, they created the schedules in MS Excel :(
[01:29] <Razor-X> i'm reading Lamport's LaTeX - A Document Preparation System, right now
[01:29] <windex> being as i can get my printer to work properly and fonts seem to look like crap at the moment, i'm going to assume the magic solution to that is to use latex. :)
[01:29] <Razor-X> hmrocha: Spreadsheets are attrocious in LaTeX
[01:29] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: well, choose the safe option - it shouldn't matter much
[01:29] <kaffeend> k
[01:30] <Razor-X> windex: well, LaTeX can be converted to a PDF, so try and print a PDF file
[01:30] <hmrocha> Razor-X, latex is not for spreadsheets
[01:30] <Seveas> puff, currently rebuilding the .deb :)
[01:30] <Razor-X> hmrocha: I know, it's still attrocious ;)
[01:30] <windex> Razor-X, dosen't work either.
[01:30] <Razor-X> I tried LaTeXss, but that was just as bad
[01:30] <voldomazta> hello.. how do i login as root on ubuntu
[01:30] <Razor-X> windex: then i'm pretty sure it's the printer driver
[01:31] <voldomazta> just did a fresh install
[01:31] <Razor-X> !tell voldomazta about root
[01:31] <voldomazta> th
[01:31] <voldomazta> thx
[01:31] <subterrific> Seveas: thx for the help, but running base-config didn't ask me any networking questions
[01:31] <windex> Razor-X, me too. i think its a combination of my printer driver and the printer's network stack postscript engine.
[01:31] <Seveas> subterrific, hmm
[01:31] <Razor-X> windex: yeah, if the postscript engine's busted than, meh
[01:31] <Razor-X> s/than/then/
[01:31] <windex> Razor-X, the real issue is that the fonts openoffice uses as equivilant to windows fonts for documents look awful. :) example: franklin gothic medium
[01:32] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: that's not the End User's way ;)
[01:32] <hmrocha> it worked, gnumeric opened the XLS file
[01:32] <puff> j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: cannot execute binary file
[01:32] <puff> Seveas: Ah, thank you.
[01:32] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: so it seems
[01:32] <Seveas> puff, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/sun-j2sdk1.4_1.4.2+08_i386.deb
[01:32] <puff> Seveas: Very, very much.
[01:32] <Razor-X> windex: good thing about LaTeX, is that it's device independant
[01:32] <windex> Razor-X, printing would still require you to convert it to postscript which my printer would invariably mangle.
[01:32] <Seveas> \end{problems} \begin{LaTeX}
[01:33] <Razor-X> any time LPR prints something, it comes out pretty bad, here
[01:33] <hmrocha> Seveas, :D
[01:33] <Razor-X> Seveas: ;)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: the root/sudo message should be in BIG RED letters
[01:33] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: yeah, it really should
[01:33] <Razor-X> PDFs print fine though, I don't know why lpr is being stupid
[01:33] <Razor-X> and the lpr man page sucks
[01:34] <Razor-X> I think it's printing to default A4 paper, I set Opera to remedy that, but other applications don't
[01:34] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: how goes the battle?
[01:34] <Razor-X> hmrocha: that's the reason I didn't buy the wireless version of my trackball
[01:34] <kaffeend> bit tedious
[01:34] <kaffeend> up to my mouse now
[01:34] <thoreauputic> k
[01:34] <kaffeend> all is going well
[01:34] <Razor-X> does lpr have a conf file, or something which I can use to get it to default to letterpaper?
[01:35] <^thehatsrule^> lol kaffeend: if you want, join #WolfET <-- its my et chan
[01:35] <Razor-X> I love KDE's DVI and PDF viewer, so feature-rich ;)
[01:35] <hmrocha> Razor-X, wireless rocks :)
[01:35] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: I think he's a bit preoccupied right now ;)
[01:35] <Razor-X> hmrocha: waste of batteries, IMO
[01:35] <kaffeend> ^thehatsrule^ thanks dude
[01:35] <equex> dpkg --remove fglrx should remove the fglrx drivers right ?
[01:35] <^thehatsrule^> thoreauputic hehe ;p
[01:36] <^thehatsrule^> brb
[01:36] <hmrocha> Razor-X, they're rechargeable
[01:37] <Razor-X> hmrocha: batteries == money ;)
[01:37] <hmrocha> Razor-X, you only have to buy them once
[01:37] <Razor-X> maybe when I make my own income, that'll change but, till then, meh
[01:37] <kaffeend> thoreauputic what should I do with this X.org server modules? all are prechecked except GLcore and v4L
[01:38] <Seveas> Razor-X, rechargeable batteries ;)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: I'd leave it alone and move on
[01:38] <kaffeend> hmmm... but GL isn't Open GL?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: note that you can rerun this any time later provided you haven't messed with /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[01:39] <puff> Seveas: Oh for god's sake... just realized the source of the problem.  Sun's "download j2 sdk" link took me to a "download j2ee" page...
[01:39] <Seveas> rofl
[01:39] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: probably should have asked if you already have...
[01:39] <puff> Seveas: Downloading the *right* package now.
[01:39] <kaffeend> oops
[01:39] <phixion> can anyone explain to me what Samba is? :)
[01:39] <kaffeend> lol
[01:39] <Seveas> puff, you can just use my .deb :)
[01:39] <windex> puff, sun loves you.
[01:39] <kaffeend> I did
[01:39] <Razor-X> phixion: it's the UNIX implementation of SMB
[01:39] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: you did, right? :(
[01:39] <kaffeend> but cancelled at first screen
[01:39] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: oh dear
[01:40] <Raf999> phixion - linux version of file and printer sharing.
[01:40] <windex> phixion, its easier to think about as a compatibility layer to windows file and printer sharing.
[01:40] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: did you save changes?
[01:40] <phixion> aha
[01:40] <phixion> so I can use samba to allow my windows pc to access my linux pc files?
[01:40] <Razor-X> nobody knows what SMB is, do they? ;)
[01:40] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: when you edited the file before?
[01:40] <kaffeend> no I'm a n00b why would I save anything? lmao
[01:40] <squinn> Razor-X, "samba"
[01:40] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: heheh
[01:40] <Razor-X> phixion: yeah
[01:40] <phixion> ah cool
[01:40] <phixion> thanks guys
[01:41] <Razor-X> squinn: SMB came before Samba (IIRC), SMB is the protocol, Samba is the implementation
[01:41] <hmrocha> SMB is nowadays called CIFS
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[01:41] <hmrocha> so you might want to search for CIFS instead of SMB
[01:41] <windex> and is not even remotely the same as SMB.
[01:41] <Seveas> creepy idiotic file system?
[01:41] <squinn> ah ok
[01:41] <squinn> right, thought so
[01:41] <Razor-X> Seveas: ;)
[01:41] <hmrocha> Seveas, exactly
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> common internet filing system (HA!)
[01:42] <pc19> thanks seveas
[01:42] <kaffeend> thoreauputic I'm up to video modes :s
[01:42] <pc19> installed now
[01:42] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: soldier on :)
[01:42] <sun_> I'm having trouble getting my SB Live 5.1 card working in ubuntu...
[01:42] <pc19> i just went to hp for infos
[01:42] <kaffeend> don't know what I'm doing now
[01:43] <pc19> laters seveas. u made my migration easier
[01:43] <kaffeend> are these screen sizes??
[01:43] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: when in doubt, accept defaults
[01:43] <sun_> it shows up with modprobe, but i can't get alsamixer to control it
[01:43] <kaffeend> 1920x1440?
[01:43] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: do you know what resolution your screen is capable of?
[01:44] <kaffeend> 1600x1200 I thought but I'll check that
[01:44] <kaffeend> yep - 1600x1200 but at 60hz
[01:44] <sun_> did anyone have to rebuild ALSA for their SB Live card?
[01:45] <kaffeend> I normally run 1024x768 85hz
[01:45] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: well, choose that then
[01:45] <penticlex> jre
[01:45] <penticlex> oops
[01:45] <crimsun> sun_: lspci -v|grep udio
[01:45] <kaffeend> but it stops at 1200x1600
[01:45] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: arrow down
[01:46] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: should be more
[01:46] <kaffeend> haha
[01:46] <kaffeend> so there were all checked!
[01:46] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: that's OK
[01:47] <crimsun> sun_: alsamixer -c1
[01:47] <Zodiac> hello
[01:47] <kaffeend> now I'm at horizontal sync range again
[01:47] <kaffeend> man I just set allthis too
[01:48] <Zodiac> To whomever recommended k3b last night, thanx! It worked great :)
[01:48] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: make sure you get the sync rates right
[01:48] <kaffeend> can't remember what it was tho maybe 30-200?
[01:48] <kaffeend> hmmm...
[01:48] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: do you have the monitor manual? Look it up
[01:49] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: or consult the manufacturer's website
[01:49] <kaffeend> came with cd but no manual
[01:49] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: website then
[01:49] <kaffeend> website will do me I think
[01:50] <Razor-X> woohoo! ;)
[01:50] <Razor-X> I fixed my lpr problem
[01:50] <phixion> anyone fancy helping me with a simple samba config file? I just want to allow my Windows PC to access my Ubuntu box :E
[01:51] <[Spooky] > whats a good DC client for linux ?
[01:51] <phixion> DC++ :)
[01:51] <phixion> theres a howto on ubuntuforums
[01:51] <[Spooky] > ok
[01:51] <Zodiac> What do you guys use to bump beats?
[01:51] <Razor-X> phixion: you can compile DC++ to work?
[01:51] <Razor-X> Zodiac: ``bump beats'' is pretty vague ;)
[01:52] <Razor-X> MIDI Sequencing, Tracking, Recoding
[01:52] <Zodiac> There was a thing on Ubuntu world  with "Amarok" on it, but is it that much better than the standard Ubunuty software??
[01:52] <thrice`> it's linux...of course you can compile
[01:52] <Razor-X> Muxing, transcoding ;)
[01:52] <thrice`> yes
[01:52] <phixion> yes Razor-X
[01:52] <Razor-X> phixion: no usage of WINE, right?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> Zodiac: amarok is pretty cool, and available in the repos
[01:52] <phixion> right :)
[01:52] <Razor-X> cool ;)
[01:53] <Zodiac> is it that much better than "ryhthmbox"??
[01:53] <Razor-X> I guess i'm not up to date on my slang ;) (and i'm 15)
[01:53] <Razor-X> I use cplay myself
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Zodiac: IMO yes
[01:53] <cafuego> Zodiac: Best depends on what you want from it. You can only find out by trying them all.
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Zodiac: among other things, it allows you to edit tags
[01:53] <Razor-X> nice and light
[01:54] <[Spooky] > phixion: you have any adress ?
[01:54] <Zodiac> cplay?
[01:54] <Zodiac> Never heard of it
[01:54] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: cplay is nice:)
[01:54] <Zodiac> but I guess you are right, I should just try them
[01:54] <Razor-X> Zodiac: it's a command-line music player
[01:54] <Zodiac> ha ha
[01:55] <Zodiac> oh man
[01:55] <thoreauputic> Zodiac: it's a terminal based player (cplay)
[01:55] <Zodiac> nevermind :)
[01:55] <Razor-X> Zodiac: characters scare you? ;)
[01:55] <Zodiac> YES!
[01:55] <Razor-X> it plays music in a nice, clean interface
[01:55] <Zodiac> A lot
[01:55] <thoreauputic> Zodiac: cplay is *not* scary :)
[01:55] <Zodiac> h aha
[01:55] <Zodiac> I know
[01:55] <Razor-X> Zodiac: what about the small fraction of human who learn by reading, and not pictures? ;)
[01:56] <Razor-X> cplay has no prompts, actually
[01:56] <CarmenSandieg1> Is AMD "better than" Intel?
[01:56] <Zodiac> YOur right
[01:56] <Zodiac> I will try it
[01:56] <Razor-X> and hitting `h' in the program explains it all
[01:56] <Razor-X> CarmenSandieg1: miles
[01:56] <cafuego> CarmenSandieg1: For some things, yes. Well, most things ;-)
[01:56] <Seveas> CarmenSandieg1, no
[01:56] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: losing battle - the indoctrination is too strong ;)
[01:56] <Seveas> not by a long shot
[01:56] <Razor-X> you get more bang for the buck buying the same AMD compared to the same Intel
[01:56] <cafuego> CarmenSandieg1: if you want a faster copu at a lower price, then amd is better.
[01:56] <Zodiac> I use AMD... I like  it
[01:56] <cafuego> CarmenSandieg1: Same for if you want a 64bit cpu.
[01:56] <CarmenSandieg1> Cafuego, are you inferring overclocking?
[01:57] <Seveas> cafuego, only if you take clock speed as the only measure :)
[01:57] <phixion> [Spooky] , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc
[01:57] <Razor-X> not only _that_, but if you want to overclock, AMD is barnone
[01:57] <cafuego> CarmenSandieg1: No, AMD64's outperform Intel CPUs that run at higher clockrates.
[01:57] <cafuego> Seveas: Eh?
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> athlon64 > pentium4 .. that's pretty much all there is to know
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> though the p4 does better at a few things
[01:58] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, except that its plain wrong and comparing apples with pears...
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> but at the server level opteron vs xeon it's not even close
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: no, it's not
[01:58] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Yeah, but then it costs you twice as much :-)
[01:58] <phixion> How do i access my PC from the windows computer with samba?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: not according to my pricing
[01:58] <Funzo> im running an athlon64... how does it compare under x86 OSs
[01:58] <thoreauputic> !samba
[01:58] <ubotu> somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[01:58] <kaffeend> okay I'm stuck now - damn website said fuck all... they had a manual written in korean or whatever but still had no refresh rates etc
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: they're both x86 CPUs
[01:58] <kaffeend> just features
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: aimed at the same market for the same reasons
[01:58] <thoreauputic> phixion: ^^^
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: therefore are completely comparable
[01:58] <cafuego> Funzo: My 1.8GHz amd64 runs a *lot* faster then my 2GHz AthlonXP.
[01:58] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, amd64 != x86...
[01:58] <phixion> thanks alot thoreauputic
[01:59] <thoreauputic> phixion: no worries :)
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: irrelevant
[01:59] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, muhahahahah
[01:59] <Funzo> cafuego: but athlonXP is slower than p4... i think (correct me if im wrong) :)
[01:59] <cafuego> Seveas: I expect 90% or more of all amd64's just run 32bit OSes.
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: it doesn't mean they're not comparable
[01:59] <cafuego> Funzo: A bit, yep./
[01:59] <cafuego> Funzo: Then again, they're half the price.
[02:00] <kaffeend> hoping for good things from my 2.3ghz AMD athlon 64 ;)
[02:00] <Funzo> al lot of people cant upgrade yet as they run windows and drivers arent released yet
[02:00] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: progress?
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> I run x86 ubuntu on my amd64
[02:01] <kaffeend> thoreauputic nope
[02:01] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: ?
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> because it means that running cedega, win32codecs, flash, etc is easier
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> (and in some cases possible)
[02:01] <kaffeend> stopped dead when I couldn't read korean
[02:01] <Funzo> anyways does anybody know and good apt-get sources I can use to get mainstream 64bit software compatible with ubuntu
[02:01] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: ah - website?
[02:02] <kaffeend> had to look in the archives for my monitor which is last years model
[02:02] <kaffeend> http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/support/b2c_support_query_results.jsp?BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%401581126107.1123199573%40%40%40%40&BV_EngineID=cccdaddffmegefdcfejceefdfggdhgm.0&keyWord=syncmaster+785+mb#
[02:02] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: the info has to be out there - google knows all... erm.. I hope
[02:02] <kaffeend> same I'm looking now
[02:02] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: omg that's an ugly URL !
[02:03] <kaffeend> hehe I know
[02:03] <kaffeend> sorry
[02:03] <kaffeend> but it'll take you right there
[02:05] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: so ... this applies only to the USA apparently
[02:06] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: you are in .au - is there not an aus distributor?
[02:07] <kaffeend> not a reliable one - no
[02:07] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/index.asp
[02:07] <kaffeend> that's it - next monitor is LG
[02:07] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: no use?
[02:07] <[CJ] fLaRg3> mine is iiyama
[02:07] <[CJ] fLaRg3> its great
[02:07] <kaffeend> 1 sec bro
[02:08] <cafuego> kaffeend: If no luck at the POS?
[02:08] <b0xen> Hey is ubuntu binary compatible with debian? What I mean to ask is that can I just take a .deb file meant for debian and install it in ubuntu?
[02:09] <cafuego> b0xen: That's not normally recommended; libc6 versions differ.
[02:09] <kaffeend> haha... so close I was - thoreauputic it's here http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/crt/index.asp
[02:09] <b0xen> bah. but i'm so lazy :(
[02:09] <cafuego> b0xen: Then again, if there IS a depend issue, you'll be told by dpkg.
[02:09] <thoreauputic> heh - "Archived Monitors" == all crt monitors apparently
[02:09] <kaffeend> it's the big fucker right at the top of the screen
[02:09] <kaffeend> hahaha
[02:09] <cafuego> b0xen: What package?
[02:09] <kaffeend> cafuego almost there ;)
[02:09] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: erm - that's the URL I posted, isn't it??
[02:10] <thoreauputic> ah Isee
[02:10] <thoreauputic> crt
[02:11] <cafuego> how quaint ;-)
[02:11] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: yup - there 'tis in all its glory
[02:11] <kaffeend> thoreauputic one page on - and I now have the numbers! thanks mate!!!
[02:11] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: :)
[02:12] <misfit_toy> ewwww
[02:12] <kaffeend> haha
[02:12] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: ewww
[02:12] <vader1102> heheh, I finally got my workgroup working, under Ubutu, what a pain that was lol
[02:13] <t35t0r> anyone here have a winxp and linux machine with openoffice 1.1.4 (stable) ? can you please take a look at http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52924 ?
[02:14] <vader1102> t35t0r: I just set it up on my wifes pc what's the prob?
[02:14] <t35t0r> vader1102, take a look at that bug
[02:14] <kaffeend> fin
[02:14] <_SWAT_> This sometimes happens (like now). I keep a button pushed but it's only printed one time (in stead of keeping printed). Can anyone help me?
[02:14] <t35t0r> vader1102, do you have winxp and linux machine with OOo1.1.4 to compare?
[02:14] <vader1102> looking
[02:14] <vader1102> yup
[02:14] <kaffeend> problem solved!
[02:14] <t35t0r> vader1102, it's really annoying
[02:14] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: I knew the "pages from Australia" option in google.com.au had a purpose - I just never found one before ;)
[02:14] <thrice`> misfit, what'd you use to burn ?
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> thrice`: I use it all the time
[02:14] <Marburg> anyone having troubles whith firefox in Ubunto ??
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic:
[02:15] <kaffeend> thoreau neither lol
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic: when I'm looking to buy things or information relationg to an australian person/business
[02:15] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: yeah i was kidding :)
[02:15] <vader1102> t350r: I have had no probs but only set it up tonight
[02:15] <kaffeend> OMG my screen looks fan bloody tastic!
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> oh heh, I should really read back
[02:15] <t35t0r> vader1102, can you duplicate that bug?
[02:15] <BeatYou> any web designers here? ones fluent in CSS layout design ?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: yay!
[02:15] <marius_> hi
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> so many times I've seen a grab, answered a question only to realise I missed something
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> BeatYou: google ffor OSWD
[02:16] <BeatYou> HrdwrBoB, dont need help, would just like some feedback
[02:16] <Jomdom> BeatYou, I'm a pretty experienced Web developer
[02:16] <vader1102> I will do it later, right now working on customer pc
[02:16] <phixion> bah someone giv me a real basic samba config file :(
[02:16] <t35t0r> vader1102, i.e. is the rendering screwed up in linux like as i described?
[02:16] <t35t0r> vader1102, ok
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> kaffeend: at 1015?
[02:16] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: :D
[02:16] <kaffeend> thoreauputic Thanks for all that help bud
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> phixion: /usr/doc/samba/
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> phixion: there's an example config in there
[02:17] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: no problem mate
[02:17] <kaffeend> now can we move onto mp3s?
[02:17] <kaffeend> hahaha
[02:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:17] <kaffeend> lmao
[02:17] <thrice`> kaffeend, sure; apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:17] <kaffeend> no way man
[02:17] <phixion> HrdwrBoB, its quite complicated :)
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> phixion: yeah
[02:17] <kaffeend> I'm gettin an ipod
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> samda does that
[02:17] <Marburg> how to configure apt-get to work whith proxy ?
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> kaffeend: apt-get install gtkpod
[02:18] <BeatYou> Jomdom: http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm - you know CSS layout techniques, check out my source
[02:18] <kaffeend> nothing with install in it is any good to me until I get another cdrom drive
[02:18] <thrice`> kaffeend, why ?  apt-get uses network, not cd
[02:19] <Jomdom> looks great (the design and the source)
[02:19] <kaffeend> oh I see
[02:19] <cafuego> kaffeend: Well, cdrom drives at least only cost 10% of what an iPod costs ;-)
[02:19] <kaffeend> cafuego tru tru, but are there any as sexy?
[02:19] <g|patrick> at the moment i am using the live cd
[02:19] <g|patrick> could someone give me a link to that bashscript that detects my harddiscs?
[02:20] <cafuego> kaffeend: A can of spray paint is even cheaper than the drive
[02:20] <kaffeend> in fact, for the cost of 2 iPods I could have a mac mini
[02:20] <g|patrick> i know, that someone here hosts a site to this spefic script
[02:20] <g|patrick> :)
[02:20] <cafuego> !vfat
[02:20] <ubotu> vfat is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:20] <cafuego> g|patrick: That one?
[02:20] <BeatYou> http://dev.clsafety.com/workfiles/new_layout.jpg that is what im eventually working towards Jomdom
[02:20] <g|patrick> ya...
[02:20] <g|patrick> thx :)
[02:21] <thoreauputic> time to split - happy podding kaffeend ;) See you all later!
[02:21] <cafuego> kaffeend: No, you will want 1GB of ram in that, which costs extra.
[02:21] <kaffeend> HrdwrBoB was there to be a sudo in front of that apt-get?
[02:21] <Jomdom> awesome - looks like your well on your way, Beat
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> kaffeend: it was implied :)
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> I assumed you knew that already
[02:22] <Jomdom> a couple floats here and there, and you'll be set ;)
[02:22] <kaffeend> Thoreauputic cya dude
[02:22] <kaffeend> doh
[02:22] <PurpleMotion> I love this new videoc ard
[02:22] <BeatYou> Jomdom: yup, CSS has puzzled me for months, i finally buckled down and did it
[02:22] <cafuego> kaffeend: Where in .AU are you?
[02:22] <PurpleMotion> it has testicleeze
[02:22] <kaffeend> HrdwrBoB ok thanky you
[02:22] <kaffeend> cafuego Brisbane
[02:22] <Jomdom> BeatYou: it's really great in the end
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> brisvegas
[02:22] <cafuego> Ah ok, never mind then.
[02:23] <kaffeend> ok
[02:23] <PurpleMotion> {jay@psilocybin (~)}:$ fgl_glxgears\n 805 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.000 FPS
[02:23] <Jomdom> BeatYou: better for everyone - the hard part is convincing table nuts to switch :)
[02:23] <cafuego> but of course the traceroyte will be fast if i do it from my brisbane server <heh>
[02:23] <BeatYou> Jomdom: yup, i was one haha
[02:23] <Jomdom> :)
[02:24] <Adrenline> anyone know of the easiest way to get smbmount for ubuntu?
[02:24] <thrice`> !samba
[02:24] <cafuego> Adrenline: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[02:24] <ubotu> well, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[02:24] <PurpleMotion> what's a really fun opengl game i can download and play? I wanna see this thing in action
[02:24] <cafuego> !lose thrice`
[02:24] <ubotu> cafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:24] <Jomdom> BeatYou: it really hurts when you are working for someone who has "designers" spitting out ugly dreamweaver table based layouts that you have to build web apps in
[02:24] <cafuego> ubotu: you broken
[02:24] <ubotu> cafuego: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:24] <redguy> how do I get help on using ubotu?
[02:24] <thrice`> ?
[02:24] <kaffeend> HrdwrBoB I get this: Reading package lists... Done
[02:24] <kaffeend> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:24] <kaffeend> E: Couldn't find package gtkpod
[02:24] <Adrenline> cafuego, thanx :)
[02:24] <thrice`> kaffeend, you need to update your repositories
[02:24] <HrdwrBoB> kaffeend: have you enabled universe?
[02:25] <kaffeend> no
[02:25] <BeatYou> Jomdom: you into a lot of PHP? Yea I will never go back to tables now man, everything is just way to easy without them
[02:25] <Jomdom> BeatYou: i'm a Ruby on Rails man now... PHP is like the tables of programming after using Rails :)
[02:25] <BeatYou> haha, Ive never heard of that at all
[02:26] <Anon6833> hi does the ubuntu live cd come with a  dvd burner software... i have no working main drive (have some dump drives that i refuse to format) in my computer but need to burn some info from here to a cd
[02:26] <Jomdom> BeatYou: www.rubyonrails.com
[02:26] <Anon6833> cd should be replaced with dvd
[02:26] <Jomdom> you can head over to #rubyonrails right here on FreeNode if you get interested ;)
[02:26] <BeatYou> its a programming language similar to pHP though?
[02:26] <cafuego> Anon6833: Yes, but you'll need two cd/dvd drives then, you can't eject the livecd whilst running
[02:26] <kaffeend> where do I find Universe and Metaverse plz HrdwrBoB?
[02:26] <Jomdom> Rails is a framework built on Ruby (Ruby is the language)
[02:26] <Anon6833> cafuego yeah i have 3 drives... ok thanks
[02:26] <BeatYou> ahhhh
[02:27] <abarbaccia> hey anybody here good with madwifi? i have a dwl-g520 with the atheros chipset - but can't seem to get madwifi to work
[02:27] <Syco54645_dead> cafuego i will get the live cd now then thanks alot
[02:27] <g|patrick> the script doesnt add reiser fs partions
[02:27] <kaffeend> !repositories
[02:27] <ubotu> methinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> kaffeend: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositor%29
[02:27] <g|patrick> how has a reiserfs look like
[02:27] <Syco54645_dead> cafuego what program does it come with?
[02:27] <glick> yo
[02:27] <kaffeend> better than bots choice - cheers
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[02:28] <cafuego> Syco54645_dead: the gnome one; just insert a blank cd, then drag files to it.
[02:28] <HrdwrBoB> kaffeend: no it's the same thing :)
[02:28] <cafuego> Syco54645_dead: When done, right-click and tell it to burn.
[02:28] <Syco54645_dead> cafuego ok thanks
[02:29] <BeatYou> Jomdom: im not into programming myself but deal with a lot of php based apps, my friend programs a lot though im sure hell get something out o fit
[02:29] <hayden> is there anything like expose for gnome?
[02:29] <cafuego> hayden: Not yet...
[02:29] <subterrific> hayden: there are a few things
[02:30] <subterrific> hayden: one called skippy i think
[02:30] <Burgundavia> hayden, skippy
[02:30] <glick> nothing beats pyton
[02:30] <hayden> yea, thanks ill check it out
[02:30] <Jomdom> BeatYou: that's good to hear :)
[02:30] <glick> python is the be all and end all of languages
[02:30] <cafuego> glick: I can name a whole bunch of sticks and cricket bats that beat python
[02:31] <cafuego> """I have bloody VB style comments
[02:31] <glick> cafuego, for general computing pythons beauty, simplicy, elegance, and performance, and rapid development are difficult to suppercede
[02:31] <glick> cafuego, you dont have to use those
[02:31] <Jomdom> glick, speaking of python, have you looked into django? http://www.djangoproject.com/
[02:31] <kaffeend> you know - this is actually quite easy
[02:31] <cafuego> glick: I find it horrid, though. Worse then perl.
[02:31] <abarbaccia> anybody know how to unisntall the madwifi part of the linux-restricted-modules?
[02:32] <glick> perl is rediculous
[02:32] <glick> Jomdom, no i havent
[02:32] <cafuego> glick: I rest my case ;-)
[02:32] <Jomdom> it looks very nifty :)
[02:32] <glick> Jomdom, what is it
[02:32] <Jomdom> a Web app framework
[02:32] <g|patrick> what is notail meaning
[02:33] <glick> python can even be compiled to java code
[02:33] <glick> i mean its beautiful
[02:33] <cafuego> g|patrick: a notail is a female.
[02:33] <glick> python is everything java should have been but wasnt
[02:33] <g|patrick> cafuego, what does it mean in linux
[02:33] <crimsun> glick: err, that's a bit misleading.
[02:33] <cafuego> g|patrick: Oh, you didn't mean league of gentlemen? ;-)
[02:33] <g|patrick> ^^
[02:33] <g|patrick> urrrmm....
[02:33] <g|patrick> no :)
[02:34] <kaffeend> !mps
[02:34] <ubotu> kaffeend: Are you smoking crack?
[02:34] <kaffeend> !mp3
[02:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:34] <Goodspeed> how do i delete directories?
[02:34] <kaffeend> that's better
[02:34] <g|patrick> shift del
[02:34] <Madpilot> poetry
[02:35] <cafuego> g|patrick: Looks like it's a reiserfs mount option to make it do less i/o
[02:35] <Madpilot> oops. guess I better change my login pass now...
[02:35] <Madpilot> I thought Screen Lock was on...
[02:35] <cafuego> g|patrick: Did you make the mistake of accidentally using reiserfs?
[02:36] <g|patrick> actually i am in livecd
[02:36] <g|patrick> i have to mount reiserfs to access my data
[02:36] <g|patrick> bakcuptime!
[02:36] <cafuego> g|patrick: http://linux.ucla.edu/pipermail/linux/2002-January/006253.html
[02:37] <Slipaway172> ive been trying to figure this out? why do i like ubuntu over other distros? ubuntu is a little difficult to use on some tasks, but it is fast, stable, lots of software, excellent support. but i still dont know why i love ubuntu over easier distros. why do you like ubuntu so much?
[02:37] <g|patrick> well, i simply need the fstab string
[02:37] <g|patrick> so that i can mount it
[02:37] <cafuego> g|patrick: mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdXY /mnt/point
[02:38] <cafuego> Don't be difficult about it
[02:38] <g|patrick> /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 reiserfs defaults 0 0 ?
[02:38] <g|patrick> will that work?
[02:39] <cafuego> g|patrick: Why not try?
[02:39] <g|patrick> weired
[02:40] <g|patrick> its not listed in the overview
[02:40] <cafuego> g|patrick: why would you edit fstab on a livecd btw?
[02:41] <Slipaway172> editing the fstab on any live cd is almost useless
[02:41] <g|patrick> well
[02:41] <g|patrick> the ntfs drives were found by the script
[02:41] <g|patrick> and added to the fstab
[02:41] <g|patrick> those i can acces
[02:41] <cafuego> g|patrick: Until you reboot, sure.
[02:41] <g|patrick> ya...
[02:41] <g|patrick> cafuego, i am on livecd
[02:41] <g|patrick> backuping my data
[02:41] <cafuego> g|patrick: Just run mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[02:42] <g|patrick> and reinstalling my ubuntu afterwarts
[02:42] <Slipaway172> i ONLY edit mine when i backup data. mount my 2nd hard drive copy files and umount -a and edit the fstab to normal
[02:43] <hayden> what is the best 'dock' app for gnome?
[02:43] <g|patrick> mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 <-- didnt worked
[02:45] <Slipaway172> where did u get the music
[02:45] <g|patrick> allofmp3?
[02:45] <Slipaway172> illegal
[02:45] <g|patrick> allofmp3?
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> allofmp3 is legal as fast as I'm concerned
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> as a consumer
[02:45] <g|patrick> who says thats illegal
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> because that's all that's important
[02:45] <g|patrick> there are people that want see it illigal
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> they tell me it's legal
[02:45] <nJess> how do i add the kernel module powernow-k8 to the bootup?
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> I can't see proof otherwise
[02:45] <glick> whats illigal?
[02:46] <Madpilot> Slipaway172: no, I own a lot of CDs, and have been ripping like crazy
[02:46] <HrdwrBoB> therefore if it is illegal, I have been conned
[02:46] <Slipaway172> oh
[02:46] <HrdwrBoB> and if it's not, I have cheap music
[02:46] <g|patrick> glick, downloading movies
[02:46] <g|patrick> anime is a greyzone, if its NOT licensed
[02:46] <g|patrick> but in general its illigal to dl movies ;)
[02:46] <glick> g|patrick, how else am i supposed to watch movies for free on my computer?
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> copyright infringement is a very interesting area because in many cases (at least historically) it's not in fact illegal, it's a tort
[02:47] <g|patrick> buying?
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> and therefore civil
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> rather than criminal
[02:47] <Madpilot> glick: your local library?
[02:47] <g|patrick> well.. how can i pay at allofmp3?
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> it's not theft, and it never has been
[02:47] <g|patrick> i have no creditcard
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> g|patrick: paypal
[02:47] <g|patrick> how much costs a paypalaccount?
[02:47] <nJess> how do i add the kernel module powernow-k8 to the bootup?
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> nothing
[02:47] <g|patrick> ah...
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> in any case
[02:47] <Slipaway172> if u like music of any sorts go to www.shoutcast.com
[02:47] <glick> the random bits on my harddrive just happened to be the big lebowskie movie when i try to run it with mplayer
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> this is wildly offtopic
[02:48] <g|patrick> paypal is the ebay service, correct?
[02:48] <nJess> yeah it is
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> glick: what a happy coincidence
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> g|patrick: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <nJess> can i have help then please? since this is kinda a help channel and all
[02:48] <g|patrick> ok
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> nJess: what's up
[02:48] <g|patrick> i still cant mount the hda2 and sb2 drives :(
[02:48] <nJess> how do i add the kernel module powernow-k8 to the bootup?
[02:48] <g|patrick> both are in /media
[02:48] <g|patrick> but i can't mount them
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> nJess: edit /etc/modules
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> and put it in there
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> it will then load automatically
[02:49] <nJess> thank you
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> no worries
[02:49] <g|patrick> i need the correct string of fstab
[02:50] <g|patrick> i wont see it in nautilus until its right there :(
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> g|patrick: for what
[02:50] <g|patrick> right <-- i mean correct
[02:50] <nJess> im getting my brother's laptop ready for college
[02:50] <nJess> linux seems to be the way to avoid virus and spyware for him
[02:50] <Christin> my keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup
[02:50] <g|patrick> i cant access hda2 although terminal says its mounted
[02:50] <g|patrick> :(
[02:50] <equex> PurpleMotion: can you paste me the url to your little GL recipe ? or the log perhaps ?
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> nJess: ahh, the only way? I think I see what you mean :)
[02:51] <equex> i cleaned up some parts of X now
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> g|patrick: what do you mean you can't access it
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> what actual error are you getting
[02:52] <Goodspeed> how do edit the menu at the top with applications places and sytem
[02:52] <Goodspeed> do i need that menu editor thing?
[02:52] <PurpleMotion> equex: i can give you our log
[02:52] <equex> that would be nice, i will save the text this time
[02:53] <g|patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/964
[02:53] <reka> Goodspeed: yes. although iirc, you can't edit the system menu
[02:53] <g|patrick> i need help...
[02:53] <g|patrick> i am wasting my time here
[02:53] <g|patrick> its almost 3.am and i still were unable to backup
[02:54] <g|patrick> :(
[02:54] <Quest-Master> :\
[02:54] <g|patrick> i need access to my reiserfs partitions
[02:54] <chibifs> g|patrick What's the problem?
[02:54] <g|patrick> nautilus doesnt display them
[02:54] <chibifs> Maybe I can give you a hint or boost.
[02:54] <g|patrick> and i cant view their content with browser
[02:55] <g|patrick> so something is wrong there!
[02:55] <cafuego> g|patrick: Are you root?
[02:55] <g|patrick> sure
[02:55] <chibifs> Have you mounted the disks?
[02:55] <Slipaway172> when i do that, i can only do it as a root
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> g|patrick: that's not the error
[02:55] <Christin> my keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup
[02:55] <g|patrick> termial says they are
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> that's your fstab
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> not to mention
[02:55] <g|patrick> ya... thats i am talkin gbaout an hour
[02:55] <cafuego> g|patrick: start a nautilus as root, IT can access the drive.
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> why do you have so many partitions?
[02:55] <g|patrick> 500GB
[02:55] <jcfreak> anyone have any idea why i can get video and sound w/ totem-gstreamer, but only video w/ xine?
[02:55] <Quest-Master> damn.
[02:55] <g|patrick> splitted over 3 harddrives
[02:56] <g|patrick> 250 seagete + 2x 160 samsung
[02:56] <glick> damn i only have 300 gigs :(
[02:56] <Slipaway172> Christin, buy a new KB, they are under 410
[02:56] <Goodspeed> is there anyway to get root access outside of the terminal?
[02:56] <Slipaway172> $`0
[02:56] <cafuego> the part tense of 'split' is 'split'
[02:56] <Goodspeed> in ubuntu?
[02:56] <Slipaway172> they are under $10
[02:56] <g|patrick> Goodspeed, in kde u can start appz with rootrights from gui
[02:56] <cafuego> Slipaway172: Only shit ones are under $10
[02:56] <g|patrick> well.. whats wrong with my fstab
[02:57] <cafuego> Slipaway172: A good keyboard is a good investment.
[02:57] <g|patrick> i need a corrected one
[02:57] <g|patrick> plz help me
[02:57] <g|patrick> i am tired and i dont see any progress here... again :(
[02:57] <cafuego> g|patrick: umount /mnt/hda2
[02:57] <Goodspeed> how do I delete things in SMEG?
[02:57] <apokryphos> Goodspeed: of course. Just alt+f2 -> gksudo {appname} or kdesu {appname}
[02:57] <cafuego> g|patrick: mount -t reiserfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[02:58] <Slipaway172> cafuego, i bought a KB at a goodwill and for only $5 i got a microsoft split keyboard, never had one problem and i love how it is slipt
[02:58] <Goodspeed> that still wont let me delete in smeg
[02:58] <cafuego> g|patrick: If that won't work (it may not) you will need to just run 'sudo nautilus' and access it that way.
[02:58] <cafuego> Slipaway172: I used one of those once.
[02:58] <Goodspeed> and its so annoying seeing a blank program in the menu
[02:58] <cafuego> Slipaway172: Threw it out the window and went home to fetch my happy hacker.
[02:58] <g|patrick> terminal says, that hda2 is already mounted
[02:58] <Christin> slipaway172: it's not my keyboard that's the problem, it's linux, software problem.
[02:58] <cafuego> g|patrick: hence my first line, which was 'umount /media/hda2'
[02:58] <g|patrick> but there is no drive displayed, thats ha 20GiB
[02:58] <Slipaway172> oh
[02:59] <hayden> how can i add the application, places and system menus to the starterbar gdesklet?
[02:59] <g|patrick> now terminal says hda2 is not beeing found
[02:59] <g|patrick> whats wrong here
[02:59] <g|patrick> this suxx :(
[03:00] <g|patrick> all i do the alst 3 weeks is to backup and reset my linux all 3 days
[03:00] <g|patrick> because it gets wrecked again and again
[03:01] <cafuego> g|patrick: The user IDs don't match up on the livecd with the accounts you had on the system, that's why only root can access them.
[03:01] <g|patrick> :/
[03:01] <g|patrick> ya..
[03:01] <jcfreak> anyone have any idea why i can get video and sound w/ totem-gstreamer, but only video w/ xine?
[03:01] <Amaranth> Goodspeed: You can't delete things you didn't create.
[03:01] <Amaranth> Goodspeed: You can only hide them.
[03:02] <toad3030> there anybody that could help me on how to install themes from gnome-look.org??
[03:02] <Madpilot> toad3030: is that site back up, then?
[03:02] <g|patrick> where do appz store their settings
[03:02] <Hoxzer^^> Toad3030: do you have girl friend?
[03:02] <toad3030> yes it is back up
[03:02] <g|patrick> i cant find my opera contacts and passwords in the usr folder :(
[03:02] <g|patrick> cafuego, now i have access
[03:03] <g|patrick> i dont know why
[03:03] <g|patrick> but its there
[03:03] <Hoxzer^^> Toad: do you fuck her gently?
[03:03] <Madpilot> g|patrick: type "opera:about" in an address bar
[03:03] <g|patrick> well
[03:03] <g|patrick> madpilot
[03:03] <g|patrick> i am in livecd
[03:03] <g|patrick> searching the drive for my data
[03:03] <g|patrick> i dont have access to opera now
[03:03] <g|patrick> so i cant access the internal opera outpu
[03:03] <g|patrick> t
[03:03] <Madpilot> toad3030: save the archive to your desktop, open the Themes manager, and just drag the file over the theme window
[03:03] <Major-DeFeKT> k, i was just wondering, as i've only ever used one distrib of nix.. what's the advantage of this over others?
[03:04] <Madpilot> g|patrick: just a sec, I'll check my Opera isntall for you
[03:04] <g|patrick> thx :)
[03:04] <toad3030> haha, ok ty
[03:04] <g|patrick> btw. i hope my english is not too bad
[03:04] <g|patrick> i am lacking of practice
[03:04] <paulproteus> toad3030: The Linux world is finally getting to understand drag-and-drop. :)
[03:04] <Madpilot> g|patrick most of the settings should be in /home/<user>/.opera/opera6.ini
[03:04] <g|patrick> watching movies and excessvie chatting dont improve as much as i hoped ;)
[03:05] <toad3030> nice
[03:05] <g|patrick> Madpilot, thx
[03:05] <Madpilot> g|patrick: actually just /home/<user>/.opera/ of course
[03:05] <g|patrick> thx
[03:06] <g|patrick> btw. i am using it since opera4 now ;)
[03:06] <g|patrick> but i am still not used to linux way of storing data ;)
[03:06] <g|patrick> alhtough its much more logic than in windows with dozens of subfolders
[03:07] <Madpilot> g|patrick: I've been an Opera user about as long - but I'm new to Linux too
[03:07] <b0xen> I like the dozens of subfolders! They make me feel superior when I understand them :)
[03:07] <g|patrick> :)
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> b0xen: haha
[03:07] <g|patrick> boxen: well thats why i have so many partions
[03:07] <g|patrick> movies, games, music
[03:07] <Madpilot> b0xen: ;) I don't think that qualifies as a good reason to have lots of folders!
[03:07] <g|patrick> its much easier and redundant if u dont have ONE huge drive
[03:07] <b0xen> Madpilot: having lots of folders makes me happy. I think that's a great reason!
[03:08] <Christin> my keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup
[03:08] <b0xen> Oh you just move that to C:\windows\system32\temp\drivers\x86 and then your good!
[03:08] <b0xen> see how easy it is :-P
[03:08] <g|patrick> b0xen, ?
[03:09] <b0xen> it was a joke
[03:09] <g|patrick> well.. what were u referring to?
[03:09] <b0xen> the fact that windows has dozens of subfolders
[03:09] <g|patrick> ya
[03:09] <g|patrick> i were talking about the user management
[03:09] <b0xen> In linux we don
[03:10] <g|patrick> i know!
[03:10] <b0xen> we don't have folders. We have "directories". That makes them better
[03:10] <g|patrick> in german there is no difference between those words
[03:10] <g|patrick> would u explain it?
[03:10] <tiglionabbit> lol, they're the same thing
[03:10] <b0xen> A folder is just a silly icon that represents a directory or subdirectory
[03:10] <g|patrick> well, the meaning is the same FOR ME
[03:10] <Madpilot> g|patrick: there isn't much difference in English either...
[03:10] <paulproteus> Christin: Check your GNOME keyboard settings.
[03:11] <paulproteus> Christin: Do you know how to get to those?
[03:11] <g|patrick> Madpilot, compound nouns ^
[03:11] <Hikaru79> Is there a user-specific script that is run whenever a specific user logs on?
[03:11] <g|patrick> germans like it to put nouns together ^
[03:11] <g|patrick> ;)
[03:11] <b0xen> Who needs icons anyway. Do all your work from the shell. It's the l33t way to be.
[03:11] <Hikaru79> (For example, a specific file that is executed when user 'bob' logs on, which is seperate from 'judy''s file?)
[03:11] <Madpilot> g|patrick: I've noticed that travelling in Germany... ;)
[03:11] <paulproteus> b0xen: Don't use the shell.  Interact with the computer in manually-punched tape
[03:11] <PurpleMotion> whats the name of the friggen menu search & add utility for kde? i cant find it
[03:12] <g|patrick> steuer|vergnstigungs|abbau|gesetz <-- a law that fights tax benifits
[03:12] <g|patrick> e.g.
[03:12] <g|patrick> but thats OT again ... sry
[03:12] <paulproteus> Hikaru79: GNOME has an on-login-run-these-programs system.
[03:12] <Christin> paulproteus: yes. i had a look at it already. it's on generic 101-ky pc, us english
[03:12] <paulproteus> Christin: Hmm.  And is that what you have?
[03:12] <Hikaru79> paulproteus, I'm looking for a general user-centric one, not based on a particular desktop system.
[03:12] <b0xen> paulproteus: Genious!
[03:12] <paulproteus> (BTW, you probably have a 104 key keyboard.)
[03:12] <b0xen> I'll be l33ter then ever!
[03:12] <paulproteus> b0xen: Each user's .profile, then, I guess?
[03:13] <b0xen> what about it
[03:13] <PurpleMotion> someone should make an athena style for kde
[03:13] <g|patrick> btw. a dot infornt of the folder means, that it will be hidden
[03:13] <paulproteus> PurpleMotion: Athena, like X Athena Widgets?
[03:13] <Christin> paulproteus: well, i think i have a 104, yeah. that's what it was set to originally, but i changed it in case that was the problem. didn't help
[03:13] <PurpleMotion> yes
[03:13] <paulproteus> Christin: Hmm, okay.
[03:13] <PurpleMotion> a windeco and matching kde style would own
[03:14] <PurpleMotion> or lcars
[03:14] <PurpleMotion> either one
[03:14] <Code_Dark> does ubuntu try to use ipv6 by default?
[03:15] <PurpleMotion> Code_Dark:  it turns it on by default (at least it did on mine)
[03:15] <Code_Dark> do you know how to disable it?
[03:15] <PurpleMotion> turn it off in your sysv system i'd imagine
[03:16] <Hikaru79> paulproteus, where is each user's .profile stored? a 'locate .profile' only turned up the root one.
[03:16] <_SWAT_> anyone here use SciTE?
[03:16] <Hikaru79> _SWAT_, I do.
[03:16] <g|patrick> home, Hikaru79
[03:17] <Christin> paultproteusq: what should i try next?
[03:17] <Hikaru79> g|patrick, .profile in /home? If it doens't exist and I create it, it will be automatically picked up?
[03:17] <_SWAT_> Hikaru79, I need to change some colors etc. I did that in the global properties file. They aren't accepted/loaded. Do you know why?
[03:17] <toad3030> what is a good dvd player to use??
[03:17] <g|patrick> weired
[03:17] <Hikaru79> I've never tried modding the global properties file =/ Sorry.
[03:17] <g|patrick> btw. i cant access many sites not within linux
[03:17] <g|patrick> e.g. juckig.de
[03:18] <g|patrick> whats wrong here?
[03:18] <g|patrick> or spiegel.de
[03:18] <g|patrick> its said, that there was no host found
[03:18] <Hikaru79> Spiegel loads fine for me.
[03:18] <_SWAT_> g|patrick, which browser?
[03:18] <g|patrick> any
[03:18] <g|patrick> in windows it worx fine
[03:18] <paulproteus> Hikaru79: ~username
[03:18] <_SWAT_> g|patrick, try pinging debian.de or something. Any/much packetloss?
[03:18] <Madpilot> spiegel.de works, the other one doesn't for me - Opera 8.02 in Hoary...
[03:19] <paulproteus> ~username/.profile
[03:19] <g|patrick> Madpilot, the site exists... in windows i accessed it 2hours ago
[03:19] <g|patrick> where are the dns settings stored
[03:19] <g|patrick> i guess there is somethin gworn
[03:19] <g|patrick> wrong
[03:19] <Hikaru79> paulproteus, I don't have a .profile in my home dir. There's no /home/hikaru79/.profile . If I were to create one, would it automatically be recognized and run at login?
[03:19] <Code_Dark> okay. I have my eth0 up, it seems to have an inet addr, and seems to be sending/receiving some... but it doesnt seem like im on the net... any idea what's up?
[03:20] <g|patrick> have u enabled "view hidden files"
[03:20] <paulproteus> Hikaru79: Maybe it's .bash_profile these days.
[03:20] <Hikaru79> I'm using ls -al
[03:20] <paulproteus> I think the short answer to your question is "no", though.
[03:20] <Hikaru79> Ah. That it is, paulproteus! Thanks! ^_^
[03:20] <limer> hello.  how might I go about using my headphones on a turtle beach santa cruz vs. using the speakers?
[03:20] <_SWAT_> I need a text editor (php/html etc.) which I can mod with great detail. I want it minimalistic (buttons etc.) and want to set all colors. Any suggestions?
[03:21] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: vim?
[03:21] <_SWAT_> ow, and it needs to be GUI :)
[03:21] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, thnx though :D
[03:21] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: gvim?
[03:21] <Xenguy> ;-)
[03:22] <frank_b> sorry to bother you... how does one rename a directory?
[03:22] <paulproteus> frank_b: mv
[03:22] <Xenguy> mv
[03:22] <_SWAT_> frank_b, 'mv'
[03:22] <paulproteus> Or right-click rename
[03:22] <frank_b> move it instead od directly renaming it?
[03:22] <Xenguy> yeh
[03:23] <Code_Dark> okay. ubuntu thinks that it's connected to my network as 192.168.1.110. however, when i ssh 192.168.1.111, it gives me 'no route to host'. any idea what's up?
[03:23] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, never heard of gvim. Will look into it. thnx for the heads up :)
[03:23] <frank_b> ah, ok. MS-DOS used to be like that but the latest versions allowed you to directly rename a directory name... whatever
[03:23] <frank_b> thanks
[03:24] <Hikaru79> Code_Dark, because you're connected to .110 and you ssh to .111 ?
[03:24] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: remember, learning (g)vi(m) is an investment :-)
[03:24] <Code_Dark> Hikaru79: ... it thinks that it's subnet ip is .110.
[03:24] <Code_Dark> im not actually connected
[03:24] <Code_Dark> but it thinks i am
[03:24] <limer> hello.  how might I go about using my headphones on a turtle beach santa cruz vs. using the speakers?
[03:24] <Xenguy> heheh
[03:24] <Hikaru79> So was it a typo when you said you ssh to .111?
[03:25] <Code_Dark> no.
[03:25] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, I used vim as terminal editor so, at least I know that for a little bit
[03:25] <Code_Dark> Hikaru79: if my subnet ip is 192.168.1.110, then I should be able to ssh to 192.168.1.111
[03:25] <Code_Dark> from .110
[03:26] <Hikaru79> Oooh. FROM .110 TO .111?
[03:26] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: perfect, just learn all the commands :)
[03:26] <Code_Dark> Hikaru79: yep
[03:26] <Code_Dark> ubuntu thinks that it's on the subnet, but somehow i dont think it really is.
[03:28] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, damn... that's would be a lot of learning. Do you know of any other good editors?
[03:28] <occy> how can I get the new clearlooks engine wtih Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Christin> paultproteus: no ideas?
[03:28] <occy> the one with rounded corners on bottom and top.
[03:28] <g|patrick> whats clearlooks?
[03:28] <occy> http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1009
[03:29] <occy> g|patrick, check that URL
[03:29] <Madpilot> Clearlooks in included in Ubuntu by default, I'm pretty sure
[03:29] <Madpilot> I'm using it on my desktop right now
[03:29] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: seriously, there are 'refcards' on the web that give you all the commands -- give it 3 months, and you'll be starting to cruise
[03:29] <occy> Madpilot, it's the old one with squared curves on the bottom though
[03:29] <occy> err
[03:29] <occy> heh
[03:29] <occy> squared curves.
[03:30] <occy> Madpilot, the one in Hoary has the squared bottoms.
[03:30] <occy> Madpilot, the new engine has curved bottoms.
[03:30] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: otherwise something like glimmer, or gedit, or emacs =), etc.
[03:30] <occy> check above URL and screenshot.
[03:30] <Madpilot> occy: the one I'm using right now has curves on all four corners
[03:30] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, why should I 'spend' 3 months learning vim? There are other editors on the web which don't need 3 months of learning
[03:30] <occy> Madpilot, really?
[03:30] <Madpilot> perhaps I did download it, then
[03:30] <occy> Maddy, how'd you get it?
[03:30] <occy> err
[03:30] <occy> Madpilot, how'd you get it?
[03:30] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: because of the dividends if you do stick it out
[03:30] <goldfish> _SWAT_: Vim rocks only takes a few minutes to learn the basics.
[03:30] <goldfish> well, the very basics
[03:31] <occy> Madpilot, do you have backports or something like that in your sources.list ?
[03:31] <Madpilot> occy: no backports, just extras. I'm pretty sure it's from the default install, but perhaps I updated it from gnome-looks.
[03:31] <goldfish> in vim you can do 10dd , saves ten minutes of holding backspace in nano!
[03:31] <occy> Madpilot, naw, I know for certain it's not the default.
[03:31] <Christin> my keyboard is messed up, the shift keys write q and z and the 'a' key doesn't work so well. how can i undo whatever i did to it? i already restored my xorg.conf file from backup
[03:31] <occy> Madpilot, hmmm I tried getting it and installing it... but the engine isn't up-to-date.
[03:32] <Xenguy> vim is a steep learning curve, but lots of power after it's learned
[03:32] <g|patrick> well.. if thats included
[03:32] <occy> Madpilot, you must have compiled the engine
[03:32] <g|patrick> where can i modify the windowapearence?
[03:32] <occy> Madpilot, which I don't know how to do. :)
[03:32] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, goldfish, i'm comparing vim now to things like gedit. Aren't those much faster/effective?
[03:32] <Madpilot> occy: no compiling here, but I do have four round corners!
[03:32] <occy> Madpilot, grrr!!!
[03:32] <occy> Madpilot, ;)
[03:32] <occy> Madpilot, I'll try gnome-look.org
[03:32] <Madpilot> g|patrick: System - Pref - Themes
[03:33] <g|patrick> thema... lol... where can i complain about the german translation^
[03:33] <g|patrick> there is no choice for roundet edges
[03:34] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: with vim you have to 'dive deep' and practice -- but after you do, it like this mythical, invincible editing tool that just chews up text files :-)
[03:34] <Madpilot> just a minute, I'll play with my Themes and see how I got four round corners...
[03:34] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, you make it sound really tastefull. Damn. You really start to convince me
[03:34] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: but yeah, gedit will get you productive in the short run
[03:34] <g|patrick> Madpilot, dont get hasty... we have much time...
[03:34] <occy> Madpilot, got it ;)
[03:35] <g|patrick> :)
[03:35] <occy> hehe
[03:35] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, longrun vim is better?
[03:35] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: its like climbing a big hill :-)
[03:35] <occy> Madpilot, clearlooks-balloon
[03:35] <occy> Madpilot, thanks
[03:35] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: "longrun" is vim's middle name ;-)
[03:35] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, I like climbing hills. I'm also now using Linux no matter the difficulty/cost. I take a crap on it :-)
[03:35] <Madpilot> occy: nope, my Clearlooks has four round in all settings. not sure how I got them, but they're cool!
[03:35] <g|patrick> occy, explain that plz :)
[03:35] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: yeah, there's a lot to explore
[03:36] <g|patrick> i still think, kde and gnome should sit around a round table to discuss how the gui might be easier to use
[03:36] <Madpilot> g|patrick: if there are translation errors, bug-report them to bugzilla.ubuntu.com and get them fixed for Breezy
[03:36] <occy> Madpilot, Yeah, I'm good to go...
[03:37] <g|patrick> Madpilot, thx :)
[03:37] <_SWAT_> Xenguy, and while I'm learning myself, I'm trying to convince others too :D
[03:37] <g|patrick> they should translate thema to something else
[03:37] <g|patrick> and their mousesettings... fr linke nutzung ^
[03:37] <Razor-X> a 7 hour ride, and i'm only prepared for like... 4 hours
[03:37] <g|patrick> that is absolutely wrong in german
[03:38] <g|patrick> we assasoiate political partys with such sentences
[03:38] <g|patrick> ^^
[03:38] <Xenguy> _SWAT_: doing it yourself is the best proof that it works (and it's fun too, some of the time =)
[03:38] <Madpilot> g|patrick: interesting. you might want to join the #ubuntu-doc group and see if someone there can help you
[03:39] <Madpilot> Ubuntu is supposed to have a big internationalization push, but it needs to be a well-done push!
[03:39] <Razor-X> I convinced my dad to bring his laptop -- now to see if I can get some basic wardiving done ;)
[03:42] <Code_Dark> okay
[03:43] <Code_Dark> i've narrowed down my problem
[03:43] <Code_Dark> when i use the graphical eth0 setup
[03:43] <Code_Dark> and set my gateway to 192.168.1.1
[03:43] <Code_Dark> and static ip to 192.168.1.116
[03:43] <Code_Dark> i can run 'route -n' and see that the destination is 192.168.1.0
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> Code_Dark: if you use DHCP or ppp it will overwrite your gateway and DNS
[03:43] <Code_Dark> which isnt 192.168.1.1
[03:43] <Code_Dark> HrdwrBoB: i'm using neither dhcp or ppp
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> Code_Dark: that's a route to get to your local net
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> there should be two entries
[03:44] <Code_Dark> there arent.
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> one of which defines access the the local net as direct
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> and one which says access everything else though 192.168.1.1
[03:44] <luminerd> Why won't Ubuntu work with my mouse?  Cat won't work, od won't work, the mouse works in other machines, I tried putting Ubuntu on the exact duplicate machine (I have 20 of them)....NOTHING WORKS!!  The problem is in Ubuntu...has anyone had this or know hwo to fix it?
[03:44] <Code_Dark> HrdwrBoB: there isnt
[03:44] <Code_Dark> what's the command to add that?
[03:44] <Code_Dark> been awhile since i used route add
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> route add default gw IP
[03:45] <benplaut> hello everyone :)
[03:45] <benplaut> !hello ubotu
[03:45] <ubotu> benplaut: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:45] <benplaut> heh
[03:45] <HrdwrBoB> to change it permanently edit /etc/network/interfaces and add 'gateway IP'
[03:45] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: ok what mouse, what error, etc et
[03:45] <luminerd> ps/2, no error.
[03:45] <luminerd> it just won't move.
[03:45] <nickrud> Amaranth, you around for a quick  question?
[03:46] <Xenguy> luminerd: why don't you just switch mice?
[03:46] <luminerd> Xenguy, I tried that too
[03:46] <Code_Dark> HrdwrBoB: well, it's added, but now when i ping 192.168.1.1 i get dest. host unreachable
[03:46] <ben_> so, i'm trying to configure my wireless card and it seems to be running, however only with an ipv6 (inet6) address in ifconfig which makes it usuless, how can i set up a regular ipv4 address on it?
[03:47] <HrdwrBoB> Code_Dark: paste me the output of route -n
[03:47] <Code_Dark> er, i cant paste it, but i can type it
[03:47] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: have you tried any different mice
[03:47] <HrdwrBoB> Code_Dark: close enough
[03:47] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, yes, as I mentioned, I have
[03:48] <Man1> since I upgraded thunderbird in hoary from the latest upgrade, I cannot start it anymore. It is stuch in an auto-restart loop. See http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/966 for the message displayed on the shell while auto-restarting
[03:48] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: I only saw that the mouse works on other machines
[03:48] <Madpilot> ompaul: it's Munsch's "the scream", actually! ;)
[03:48] <pax> anyone got mod_rewrite workig on ubuntu?
[03:48] <HrdwrBoB> so you've tested a different ps2 mouse on this machine?
[03:48] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, sorry
[03:48] <luminerd> but yea
[03:49] <Xenguy> HrdwrBoB: maybe the serial port ?
[03:49] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: well then it's not the port
[03:49] <HrdwrBoB> Xenguy: it's a PS2 mouse.
[03:49] <ompaul> Madpilot, ahh
[03:49] <redtech> ok i ran into a prob..  im trying to apt-get wine and recieve the following '/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process' and 'lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat' shows 'frontend 8019 root    4rW  REG   3,66 64357 900181 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat'  any ideas?
[03:49] <Xenguy> ahh
[03:49] <ompaul> Madpilot, same principle applies
[03:49] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: can you paste the Xorg.0.log on pastebin?
[03:49] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, what good would that do?  and no, I can't
[03:50] <Madpilot> ompaul: I'm just going for pedant points! ;) who is Darl McBride, anyway?
[03:50] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I have no mouse, remember??
[03:50] <luminerd> lol
[03:50] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: CEO of SCO
[03:50] <g|patrick> btw. is there any difference between ximian gnome and standard gnome?
[03:50] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: you can still ssh in and grab the file
[03:50] <benplaut> !lart Darl_McBride
[03:50] <ompaul> Madpilot, as HrdwrBoB said
[03:50] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: I'm almost sorry I asked! ;)
[03:51] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I suppose, but I never have before
[03:51] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, it won't do any good though
[03:51] <luminerd> X starts fine
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> I'm sure it does
[03:51] <luminerd> there's nothing about the mouse not working in there
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> well X is what you want to use the mouse, isn't it
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> what sort of mouse is it
[03:52] <Dr_Fate> If I need java with FF to run without crashing several ltimes a day
[03:52] <Dr_Fate> and overloading the browser
[03:52] <Dr_Fate> am I screwed?
[03:52] <Dr_Fate> anyone here need java for work and use FF?
[03:53] <calc> java and flash is all the same... crap :)
[03:53] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ps/2
[03:53] <Dr_Fate> does it slow FF to a crawl with more than 6 windows open?
[03:53] <KarDt> I have one problem with a application that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, how can i install it?
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: no, what brand/type
[03:53] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, and yes, X is what I want it for, but the log says the mouse works fine
[03:53] <Madpilot> calc: yeah, but widespread and often actually needed...
[03:53] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, doesn't matter
[03:53] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no ps/2 mouse works in it
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> .. but you said that other mice worked
[03:53] <luminerd> I have tried many
[03:53] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no I didn't
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> 11:48 < HrdwrBoB> so you've tested a different ps2 mouse on this machine?
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> 11:48 < luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, sorry
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> 11:48 < luminerd> but yea
[03:53] <luminerd> I said other mice don't work
[03:53] <calc> Madpilot: flash is actually needed for something other than advertising? :)
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> I quite specifically asked that
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> ok, so it's not the mouse, it's the port
[03:54] <luminerd> no
[03:54] <luminerd> it's not the port
[03:54] <Madpilot> calc: there's those great political cartoons - jibjab or something?
[03:54] <g|patrick> welll.. i am tired now :)
[03:54] <luminerd> because I tried another duplicate machine as well
[03:54] <g|patrick> gn8
[03:54] <luminerd> same thing
[03:54] <g|patrick> cu
[03:54] <g|patrick> :)
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: no, what I mean is there is no problem with the mouse
[03:54] <calc> Madpilot: that isn't really needed, i though you meant for real work ;)
[03:54] <luminerd> ooh
[03:54] <luminerd> yea
[03:54] <calc> er thought
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> there's a systemic problem with the port
[03:54] <luminerd> no prob with hardware at all
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> not that the port is specifically broken
[03:54] <luminerd> ok
[03:54] <calc> though jibjab is funny
[03:54] <luminerd> heh sry
[03:54] <Madpilot> calc: real work no, haven't seen it used for any of that... ;)
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> well there is a problem, just possibly not a broken problem
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> the end result is, the mouse doesn't work
[03:55] <calc> i think i've only seen java used for a real work non-game once
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> calc: we use java chat legitmately for a community site here
[03:55] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, lol, yea
[03:56] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: have you checked the bios for settings related to PS2
[03:56] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: or, even better 'revert to failsafe defaults'
[03:56] <HrdwrBoB> or equivalent
[03:56] <PurpleMotion> it's 10pm and almost ninety degrees
[03:56] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no, and I hate to say this, but they worked fine when windows was on here
[03:56] <HrdwrBoB> PurpleMotion: you must be boiling
[03:56] <ompaul> PurpleMotion, emm its 2:56 am and its 12 degrees and wet
[03:56] <PurpleMotion> pretty fsckin hot
[03:56] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: again, not over relevant - it may have a setting that doesn't agree with the linux drivers
[03:56] <PurpleMotion> 12 degrees?
[03:57] <ompaul> PurpleMotion, yeap
[03:57] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, so what, boot into bios now?
[03:57] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: something is wrong, change and eliminate thigns until it isn't.
[03:57] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:57] <PurpleMotion> whats that equal in degrees fahrenheit?
[03:57] <HrdwrBoB> it probably won't make a difference, but it's worth checking
[03:57] <ompaul> PurpleMotion, real ones oC ;-) about 50 iirc
[03:58] <moshe> I just burned the ppc livecd and rebooted a mac on it.  It ignored the cd and loaded osx.  why didn't it boot the cd?
[03:58] <PurpleMotion> i wish it was about fifty here
[03:58] <PurpleMotion> moshe:  hold down C when you boot
[03:58] <ompaul> PurpleMotion, it is 59 actually
[03:58] <moshe> the letter c?
[03:58] <PurpleMotion> whatever, thats a sight better than 90
[03:58] <PurpleMotion> moshe:  yes
[03:59] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, not sure where to go, it's Phoenix - AwardBIOS CMOS Setup Utility.
[03:59] <luminerd> do you know of this?
[03:59] <ompaul> PurpleMotion,  http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm useful for that
[03:59] <Madpilot> calc: actually, for Flash being used from something like realy work, check this out: http://www.onesixright.com/  <-- it even works in Opera on Hoary
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: poke around for a load failsafe defaults option
[03:59] <Madpilot> *real work...
[03:59] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, load optimized defaults?
[04:00] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:00] <HrdwrBoB> well.. failsafe defaults would be better
[04:00] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, alright, saved
[04:01] <HrdwrBoB> ok
[04:01] <HrdwrBoB> try now - it might work
[04:01] <HrdwrBoB> most likely not, but we've eliminated another possibility
[04:01] <luminerd> lol
[04:02] <KarDt> I have one problem with a application that needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, how can i install it?
[04:02] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, negative
[04:02] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: can you paste dmesg?
[04:03] <ompaul> night all
[04:04] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no, can't paste at all
[04:04] <luminerd> unless you know a hotkey for it
[04:04] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: ok, at the console
[04:04] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:04] <HrdwrBoB> then on the other machine run ssh user@remotemachine dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.txt
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> then paste /tmp/dmesg.txt
[04:05] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, have no net connection -_-
[04:05] <bingobango> does anyone know what to do about "Could not pause playback" errors with rhythmbox?  it was working yesterday... then when i rebooted, i got nuffin.
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: you can't network them with you locally?
[04:05] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I don't know why
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> bingobango: it's because gstreamer/esd are having fits
[04:05] <luminerd> the ethernet's plugged in
[04:05] <luminerd> I got an error on the install about it though HrdwrBoB
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: what error?
[04:05] <bingobango> HrdwrBoB:  hmmm.  any idea how to unfit em?
[04:06] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, just said it couldn't configure network connection or something
[04:06] <luminerd> i figured it was cause it wasn't plugged in at the time
[04:06] <luminerd> it did it on the other machine too
[04:06] <luminerd> but the other machine can get on the net
[04:06] <luminerd> I hvae two of them with me by the way, and 18 are at the office
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> well use the one that can get net access :)
[04:07] <bingobango> HrdwrBoB: what about switching sinks for audio output?
[04:07] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, umm...
[04:07] <luminerd> I need to fix it anyway
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> if you have some budget, spend $sfa on usb mice
[04:07] <luminerd> do you know what caused this possibly or how I can fix it?
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> bingobango: that would help
[04:07] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no thanks, I'll sooner go with slackware.
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> bingobango: depends on what you want
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: it works with slackware?
[04:07] <luminerd> I just want to fix it though
[04:08] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I bet it would.  worked on Debian.
[04:08] <bingobango> HrdwrBoB:  is there a discernible difference in sink choices?
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> that's certainly odd
[04:08] <benkong2> where does one set ServerName in apache on ubuntu...I don't see it apache2.conf and httpd.conf is empty
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> bingobango: yes, esd is total crack
[04:08] <luminerd> but debian all around sucked, and missed drivers for video, internet, and like 5 other devices
[04:08] <bingobango> HrdwrBoB: i just want something reliable
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> bingobango: the best option is to get an emu10k1 card (sb live)
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> and to not use esd at all
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: have you tried cahnging the mouse device to /dev/psaux/
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: have you tried cahnging the mouse device to /dev/psaux ?
[04:09] <luminerd> yea
[04:09] <luminerd> on the xorg.conf you mean right??
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:09] <luminerd> yup
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> tested the mouse using gpm?
[04:09] <luminerd> no
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> that's the easiest test
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> gpm is a console mouse driver
[04:10] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, somehow it's not getting an electronic signal at all though
[04:10] <luminerd> because cat, od, and less don't work...why would gpm?
[04:10] <luminerd> plus I'm not sure if I have gpm
[04:10] <luminerd> and how do I get this thing on the net?
[04:10] <bingobango> HrdwrBoB:  all of the sinks say they can't construct a test pipeline under multimedia systems selector
[04:10] <bingobango> HrdwrBoB: sounds like a problem with my audio equipment rather than the driver
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> bingobango: yes
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> something is probably using it
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> possibly esd
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> possibly something else
[04:11] <Goodspeed> how do i find the local ip of my machine
[04:11] <Goodspeed> like 192.168.1.100
[04:11] <Goodspeed> or something liek that?
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> Goodspeed: run ifconfig
[04:11] <Goodspeed> not ip config?
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: run 'dhclient eth0'
[04:11] <Goodspeed> :)
[04:11] <sebix> Hi, I have vim 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7 and I can't install vim-python, because of dependencies problem. I don't find out how to solve this...
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: that won't solve it permanently but it'll run dhcp once so you can get on
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: after you've fixed the mouse issue you can use the gui
[04:11] <luminerd> sweet
[04:11] <luminerd> thanks HrdwrBoB
[04:11] <luminerd> ok what did you want me to aptitude again?
[04:11] <HrdwrBoB> gpm
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> I take it they're ball mice
[04:12] <luminerd> sudo aptitude install gpm?
[04:12] <luminerd> yea they are
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> do you have a ps2 laser mouse?
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> plug it in, see if it gets a light
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> PurpleMotion: heh
[04:12] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no, don't have one
[04:13] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, one's on its way int he mail though, heh
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: hm ok
[04:13] <PurpleMotion> you can use the ps/2 port to power a 2.5" 4400rpm hdd
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> that would be an easy test though
[04:13] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: my step-mother still has one. without a scroll wheel. it sucketh mightily.
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: buy her a new mouse
[04:13] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, so do or do not sudo aptitude install gpm?
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: if you don't like her, use it to choke her with
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: well, gpm is useful for mouse testing
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> so yes
[04:13] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I have a usb wacom?
[04:13] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: unless it works with a USB->ps2 converter
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> then it's not really helping
[04:14] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, I did that command, it said no candidate version found for gpm
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> i have a two inch long, one inch wide 7 button usb mouse (two buttons on top, one on each side, and the wheel (three buttons there))
[04:14] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I don't know :/
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: probably in universe
[04:14] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: ha! no, she's OK, bt might be getting a new mouse for her birthday... ;)
[04:14] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: heh, I just organised ADSL, wireless and a laptop for my inlaws
[04:15] <reka> PurpleMotion: you must be proud. :)
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> it's a pretty cool mouse
[04:15] <nJess> laptop has been finished
[04:15] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable universe
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> very small
[04:15] <HrdwrBoB> (see the comments in that file)
[04:15] <nJess> just gave brother a crashcourse in linux
[04:15] <nJess> that was fun
[04:15] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok yea I did that on the other heh
[04:15] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I need emacs first, what's the command again?
[04:15] <luminerd> emacs31 or something?
[04:15] <luminerd> to aptitude it that is
[04:16] <reka> emacs21
[04:16] <luminerd> thanks :D
[04:16] <_SWAT_> anyone here now of a good music mix program? Just to 'edit' current MP3 songs and adding beats etc. ? (and maybe transforming and stuff)
[04:16] <PurpleMotion> _SWAT_:  lmms
[04:17] <PurpleMotion> _SWAT_:  lmms.sf.net
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: nfi I don't use emacs :)
[04:17] <PurpleMotion> dunno about mp3's thou
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> nJess: glad to hear :)
[04:17] <apokryphos> Amaranth: thought you might find this interesting http://blogs.qtdeveloper.net/archives/2005/08/03/some-basic-thoughts-about-kde-4/  -- mentions some of the things I remember you arguing
[04:17] <reka> anyone know of a video player/editor that can play/rewind frame-by-frame?
[04:17] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, is it the bottom two or the ones right under the thing that said uncomment these to add software from the universe
[04:17] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, thnx, I'll take a look at it
[04:18] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, nfi?
[04:18] <reka> sort of like quicktime player's capability
[04:19] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, its not in the wikipedia lol
[04:19] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, seems kinda new. Do you maybe know of a more mature program?
[04:19] <black13> i have have problems with xorg because my usr directory is readonly
[04:19] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: it's in AddingMultimediaRepositories
[04:19] <PurpleMotion> _SWAT_:  not really, but i have it, and it runs pretty well
[04:20] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, can you check for the mp3 thing? (by any chance?)
[04:21] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, now what?  do the gpm thing?
[04:21] <PurpleMotion> it doesnt open mp3's.. it's more of a sequencer/loop editor... it actually works a LOT like fruity loops, if you're familiar with that
[04:21] <PurpleMotion> and to date, its VERY stable
[04:21] <reka> black13: what sort of problems?
[04:22] <Joose^> hi again..
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: yeah
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> check the manual
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> and do some trial and error with different drivers etc
[04:22] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, hmm, it didnt work
[04:22] <luminerd> did the same thing
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> the same thing?
[04:23] <luminerd> do I have to update the aptitude database or something liek that first?
[04:23] <tha_gamemaster> would it be difficult to set up ubuntu-server as port-restrictive firewall?
[04:23] <Joose^> it's this okay? sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff
[04:23] <luminerd> sudo aptitude install gpm
[04:23] <Joose^> it's this okay? make clean patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff
[04:23] <black13> reka  Cannot open "compiled/server-0.xkm" to write keyboard description:
[04:23] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, nice
[04:24] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I already did this man
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[04:24] <luminerd> I spent 5 hours changing around the xorg.conf
[04:24] <Goodspeed> how do i remove wine and limewire
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <reka> black13: what are you trying to do/what caused it?
[04:24] <Goodspeed> they arent on synaptic
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: it may be a kernel problem
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: this is why I was asking for dmesg output
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: I can aldso recommend you get an email with all of this information
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> and post it to the forums and the mailing list
[04:25] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok I can get it to you but how do I copy and paste without my mouse?
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> because it's a more involved process
[04:25] <Joose^> it's this okay? make clean patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: use ssh
[04:25] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, take a look at this :D    http://glame.sourceforge.net/index.var
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> ssh to that machine from yours
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> run dmesg
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> then c/p
[04:25] <Total> hey guys how do you get an application through root terminal
[04:25] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ...how man!
[04:25] <black13> reka i have build a live cd the usr directory is mount read only ... the file system is squashfs
[04:25] <luminerd> I dont know its ip
[04:25] <Goodspeed> how do i get rid of osmething thats not in synaptic
[04:25] <luminerd> and how to do that
[04:26] <luminerd> I'm completely lost at it
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: 1) install ssh
[04:26] <reka> Total: define 'get'
[04:26] <Total> apt get
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> 2) on your machine run ssh user@remoteip
[04:26] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, already got it
[04:26] <Total> how do you type it
[04:26] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, usr@remoteip?
[04:26] <ateoh211> hello, would anyone be willing to help me to troubleshoot wvdial?
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> oh look, it's soundforge for linux
[04:26] <tha_gamemaster> Total, apt-get install packagename
[04:26] <reka> Total: don't use the root terminal...use normal and then type sudo apt-get <whatever>
[04:26] <benplaut> !lart Dave_Orton
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> now all they need to do is clone acid pro and im a happy musician again
[04:26] <benplaut> thanks, ubotu
[04:26] <ateoh211> apt-cache search filename
[04:27] <luminerd> how do I get the remoteip, HrdwrBoB ?
[04:27] <black13> reka http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=1155&tstart=0
[04:27] <Joose^> i need help to install intel537ep
[04:27] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: you said you knew its IP
[04:27] <luminerd> luminerd HrdwrBoB, ...how man!
[04:27] <luminerd> luminerd I dont know its ip
[04:27] <yo2k> hi guys...
[04:27] <Goodspeed> do i use apt-get remove to remove packages that arent in synaptic???
[04:28] <ateoh211> I run setup for the modem and put a username a pword in for my isp...
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: run ifconfig it will tell you
[04:28] <shammy>  I have my drivers installed, but when i try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, i get an error saying cannot insert ndiswrapper, operation not permitted. Why would that be?
[04:28] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, which one is it?
[04:28] <yo2k> how i know the hostname in my local network, if i know the ip addr ?
[04:28] <black13> reka this give a run down of bug basically /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkbd/compiled cant be written to
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: eth0
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> yo2k: run host ip
[04:28] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, which one there?
[04:28] <yo2k> HrdwrBoB, thank's...
[04:28] <ateoh211> sometime it hangs after -->Modem initialized   -->Please enter password(or empy password to stop):
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: the one that says inet: addr
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> inet addr:
[04:29] <luminerd> luminerd@darkstar:~$ ssh consultant@192.168.2.10
[04:29] <luminerd> ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.10 port 22: Connection refused
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> this is why I said to get ssh
[04:29] <Joose^> and a guide says this sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff i do that, but now says than apply this commands make clean, sudo make 537, make install , how i use those commands, i mean.. how
[04:29] <tha_gamemaster> luminerd, did you start the ssh daemon?
[04:29] <luminerd> tha_gamemaster, no clue
[04:29] <reka> black13: not really sure sorry.....but would a chmod be appropriate?
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:29] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, oh, wait, the machine I'm SSHing to needs ssh?!
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> please read what I type
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> I'm not doing it for my own amusement
[04:30] <ateoh211> We are trying to start a community program, ubuntu on donated systems for those who can't afford.
[04:30] <tha_gamemaster> luminerd, the pc you are trying to connect to needs to have ssh installed
[04:30] <ateoh211> but I'm having a heck of a time with this modem
[04:30] <black13> reka no unfortunately squashfs is a readonly file system
[04:30] <luminerd> ah hah!
[04:30] <luminerd> that's my prob lol
[04:30] <Joose^> and a guide says this sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-2.60.80.1-20050423.diff i do that, but now says than apply this commands make clean, sudo make 537, make install , how i use those commands, i mean.. how
[04:30] <ateoh211> does anyone do dial up anymore?
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: not really
[04:30] <reka> ateoh211: heaps
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: the only thing I do with dialup is migrate people away from it
[04:31] <black13> reka etc var root are use the tmpfs file system
[04:31] <HrdwrBoB> reka: DSL is cheaper
[04:31] <nickrud> lol, HrdwrBoB I just drop in and you say
[04:31] <nickrud> 'migrate'
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> _SWAT_:  checking out glame now..
[04:31] <ateoh211> HrdwrBoB: what if your on the road with a laptop, or what if your trying to provide an underprivleged person with internet?
[04:31] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, http://pastebin.com/329676
[04:31] <Madpilot> is the default audio CD player going to be changed for Breezy? My copy hangs with every d*mn CD I try and use it with...
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> twas already in universe
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: then I'll use dialup or a local wireless provider
[04:32] <reka> black13: yeah, sorry, i'm not much of an expert with what you're doing
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> but my point is more it's not really of interest to most people
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> so it's not really recieving the attention it perhaps needs
[04:32] <ateoh211> HrdwrBoB: cool, so anychance you or anyone here could give me some tips troubleshooting a wvdial
[04:32] <ateoh211> ..setup?
[04:33] <Goodspeed> how do i get rid of wine?!
[04:33] <ateoh211> Goodspeed: drink it
[04:33] <nickrud> ateoh211, use pppconfig, not wvdial
[04:33] <ateoh211> ;)
[04:33] <black13> reka well sometimes just chatting with someone cause you to have to focus your thoughts ...
[04:33] <Vubuntu> hey all. How do I add a splash screen in gnome?
[04:34] <benplaut> Vubuntu: "sudo apt-get install gtweakui"
[04:34] <reka> black13: well, hoped it helped. lol :)
[04:34] <benplaut> !splashscreen
[04:34] <ubotu> benplaut: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:34] <benplaut> hmm
[04:34] <Vubuntu> benplaut, cool thanks
[04:34] <benplaut> we'll have to do something about that...
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> bored installing vmware.
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: nautilus with ~ as desktop is love
[04:35] <Goodspeed> how do you delete directories?
[04:35] <Madpilot> Goodspeed: highlight in Nautilus & hit the Delete key usually works
[04:35] <Goodspeed> i dont have permission
[04:35] <benplaut> ubotu splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[04:35] <ubotu> okay, benplaut
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: that's not the whole of dmesg
[04:36] <benplaut> !splashscreen
[04:36] <ubotu> from memory, splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[04:36] <reka> Goodspeed: where are the directories?
[04:36] <benplaut> !thanks
[04:36] <ubotu> no worries, benplaut
[04:36] <Madpilot> benplaut: you can /msg the bot to train it
[04:36] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, you want it all?
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:36] <benplaut> true
[04:36] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, that will take forever :(
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: why?
[04:36] <Goodspeed> they're hidden ones in my home
[04:36] <benplaut> HrdwrBoB: what is ~?
[04:36] <Goodspeed> .wine
[04:36] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, I'm off c ya
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: home directory
[04:36] <Goodspeed> no... im not trying to delete my usr direcotry
[04:36] <Goodspeed> ...yet
[04:37] <benplaut> ahh
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: try ssh user@remote dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.txt
[04:37] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, because I have no way of highlighting it all
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> i've been trying to get cedega to work with swat 3
[04:37] <benplaut> oh, i forgot to do that screenshot :/
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: then open dmesg.txt
[04:37] <reka> HrdwrBoB: can you recommend a good au DSL provider?
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> select all, paste
[04:37] <benplaut> reka: verizon
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> reka: broadbandchoice.com.au
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: ... AU
[04:37] <reka> HrdwrBoB: cheers
[04:37] <benplaut> AU?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> reka: no worries
[04:38] <benplaut> oh
[04:38] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, there's no /tmp/dmesg.txt?
[04:38] <benplaut> australia
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: it's one of those plases not in the US
[04:38] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, oooh
[04:38] <b0xen> Is there anywhere I can find a complete list of the software I can install with apt-get?
[04:38] <luminerd> I got it, sorry
[04:38] <b0xen> Or some way to look up the name of the package?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> b0xen: apt-cache search foo
[04:38] <benplaut> b0xen: it's about 16,000 items long
[04:38] <b0xen> so i know what it is i want to apt get
[04:38] <skalpel> root_____: you should not irc as root, it is unsafe. i would recommend you close yoru client and login under a different name
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> b0xen: or run synaptic
[04:38] <palandia> hi there
[04:38] <benplaut> b0xn: yeah
[04:38] <b0xen> does search foo give descriptions?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:39] <b0xen> can I apt-get synaptic? or is it installed by default
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> installed by default
[04:39] <b0xen> cool
[04:39] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no idea how to select all though still
[04:39] <benplaut> it's installed by default
[04:39] <palandia> i have installed hoary from iso but my Xserver doesnt start can anybody help me please
[04:39] <benplaut> gksudo synaptic
[04:39] <shammy> When i use su, and enter my pass I get an authentification failed, but when i try sudo anything and enter the pass it works, what is this?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: open it in gedit, select all?
[04:39] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, well I did emacs but ok
[04:39] <benplaut> ubotu tell palandia about xserver
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: because su doesn't work
[04:39] <Vubuntu> brb trying out my splash screen
[04:39] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, gedit's not on there?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: because root does not have a password
[04:40] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: Oh, ok
[04:40] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: gedit is installed with ubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <luminerd> umm
[04:40] <HrdwrBoB> and this is on YOUR machine
[04:40] <luminerd> well the command 'gedit' doesn't work :/
[04:40] <benplaut> ubotu tell shammy about sudo
[04:41] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, thanks for the help
[04:41] <palandia> gregg_ told me about a via driver in hoary for xorg, but when i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i connot select via driver i does not appear as an option
[04:41] <luminerd> I gotta go
[04:41] <luminerd> ttyl
[04:41] <benplaut> bye
[04:41] <palandia> my chipset is VIA/S3 Unichrome Graphics
[04:41] <direwolf> ha
[04:41] <palandia> hello????
[04:41] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <rgould> How do I get the nofitication panel to refresh? I have gaim minimized there, and I refreshed gnome-panel and now it has vanished =\
[04:42] <direwolf> on right desktop?
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: then search for the 'Device' section
[04:42] <benplaut> rgould: it's running in the notification panel, so it'll close when you killall gnome-panel
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> change the driver to via
[04:42] <ateoh211> nickrud: thanks, that got me closer, I'm actually getting a handshake, but can't tell why it fails
[04:42] <rgould> oh! doh. they aren't actually running :) thanks benplaut
[04:43] <ateoh211> nickrud: my username and password are definitely correct
[04:43] <palandia> ok
[04:43] <palandia> i have changed from vesa to via in driver in DEvice
[04:43] <palandia> but...Failed to load module "via"
[04:43] <direwolf> if you x'd out your buddy list i dont think you can get it back up without restarting gaim
[04:43] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper, when i try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, i get an operation not permitted error, so thats why i tried su, would this mean i need to enable the root account?
[04:43] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: no
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: what that means is the module failed to work
[04:44] <ateoh211> anyone have any trouble shooting tips for dial up?
[04:44] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: why would that be?
[04:44] <ateoh211> I'm getting a handshake but no connect
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: have you configured it?
[04:44] <palandia> HrdweBoB: got it?
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: could be the ISP?
[04:44] <direwolf> does isp support linux ?
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: ?
[04:44] <rgould> Hmm. Actually it was only gaim that shut down when gnome-panel was refreshed. amaroK is still happily running, but I cannot open the main window.
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> direwolf: doesn't matter
[04:45] <palandia> HrdweBoB: i have changed from vesa to via in driver in DEvice section and X says FAILED TO LOAD module "via"
[04:45] <palandia> HrdweBoB: any idea?
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: then there isn't a via driver :)
[04:45] <benplaut> rgould: sometimes a program will have a daemon that keeps it alive
[04:45] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: Uh, I guess not since I don't know what configuring there would be to do. I've installed the package, then installed the driver with ndiswrapper -i filename.inf, what else do i need to do?
[04:45] <ateoh211> HrdwrBoB: doubtfull, it's a major University and no reports on their stat pages(or in my e-mails, I'm employed and a sysadmin there)
[04:45] <palandia> HrdweBoB: but vesa should works with VIA/S3 Unichrome right?
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: vesa should work with everything
[04:46] <direwolf> ive seen dialups that need some windows program to connect ..granted they were shady type deals but nonetheless
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: that should do it
[04:46] <palandia> HrdweBoB: where ca i paste my Xorg. log?
[04:46] <ateoh211> is there a good log to read for pon or a way to recieve some verbos output?
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: pastebin.com
[04:46] <palandia> HrdweBoB: for you to see it
[04:46] <benplaut> ubotu tell palandia bout pastebin
[04:46] <Tribune> hi
[04:47] <benplaut> ubotu tell palandia aout pastebin
[04:47] <Tribune> how can i get Koffice application?
[04:47] <nickrud> ateoh211, sorry, just dropped back in
[04:47] <benplaut> tribune: i'd assume "sudo apt-get install koffice"
[04:48] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: I had this error before, so I reinstalled ubuntu altogether, because i had been a little sloppy since i had no idea what i was doing, but the second time everything went fine, and ndiswrapper worked, but when i tryed logging back in I got an error saying it was a bad instal, so i reinstalled it and i'm back to the same error. Why would the operation not be permitted?
[04:48] <Tribune> Reading package lists... Done
[04:48] <Tribune> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:48] <Tribune> Package koffice is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:48] <Tribune> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:48] <Tribune> is only available from another source
[04:48] <direwolf> sudo
[04:48] <Tribune> E: Package koffice has no installation candidate
[04:48] <nickrud> ateoh211, try this: start a gnome-terminal, and execute tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:48] <Tribune> i can't
[04:49] <nickrud> ateoh211, then, in another gnome terminal, try pon. There may be some useful messages on the other terminal
[04:50] <ateoh211> nickrud: ok, LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests, connection terminated, receive seril link is not 8-bit clean: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
[04:50] <Tribune> ?
[04:50] <palandia> HrdweBoB: can you see my post at pastebin.com please
[04:50] <tigliona1bit> Tribune: you need to add the Universe repository
[04:50] <tigliona1bit> Tribune: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:50] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: paste the url to it and I will :)
[04:50] <nickrud> ateoh211, I have _never_ seen anything like that, so, maybe direwolf has some pointers
[04:51] <palandia> HrdweBoB: got it?
[04:51] <juancho> hello
[04:51] <ateoh211> direwolf: pointers for ppp by anychance?
[04:51] <HrdwrBoB> no
[04:51] <direwolf> sorry, i dont
[04:51] <HrdwrBoB> paste it here
[04:51] <HrdwrBoB> (the url)
[04:51] <Tribune> tiglionalhit. thanks... i'm using Kubuntu
[04:52] <Tribune> is it the same process?
[04:52] <ateoh211> nickrud: should I be able to see my password in the clear in the logs, I don't, but I'm just curious if that's the problem
[04:52] <Goodspeed> how do i remove wine... its not in synaptic and its not in add or remove
[04:52] <Tribune> I'm still new in kubuntu actually
[04:52] <palandia> HrdweBoB: pastebin.com fisrt link :S
[04:52] <nickrud> ateoh211, maybe, paste the total errors to pastebin, I may recognize something :)
[04:52] <palandia> HrdweBoB: its ok?
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> Tribune: yes, same
[04:52] <Tribune> k
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> I think
[04:52] <Tribune> i'll check now
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> I'm not sure =P
[04:52] <Tribune> hahaha
[04:52] <Tribune> :))
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> shouldn't be too hard though
[04:53] <PurpleMotion> what the hell is oberon?
[04:53] <ateoh211> Goodspeed: apt-get remove wine ?
[04:53] <PurpleMotion> and who stuck me on this 'future of kde' page?
[04:53] <direwolf> question for the room ...which do you think is more user-friendly .. xfce or fluxbox :)
[04:53] <Tribune> brb
[04:53] <direwolf> heh
[04:53] <nickrud> ateoh211, I've diagnosed dialup errrors since 300kbs
[04:53] <ateoh211> Goodspeed: then maybe a dpkg --purge wine for good measure
[04:54] <direwolf> nickrud, my condolences
[04:54] <Goodspeed> it says wine isnt installed
[04:54] <palandia> HrdweBoB: got my post? at pastebin?
[04:54] <nickrud> direwolf, I just started early ;P
[04:54] <tigliona1bit> direwolf: if you're comparing the versions on APT, the fluxbox it installs is quite crippled to start off with, so definately XFCE
[04:54] <flowin> i tried both xfce and fluxbox
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: you haven't pasted the url.
[04:54] <flowin> i liked fluxbox better
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> .. I'll look
[04:54] <goldfish> flux > *
[04:54] <flowin> but it required more time to configure
[04:54] <PurpleMotion> be VERY careful when using purge with low-level package management applications
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: but basically, the easier you make it for me
[04:54] <ateoh211> nickrud: i'm wondering if maybe I need our vpn client
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> the more I can do for you
[04:55] <PurpleMotion> ive seen people FUBAR their systems using the purge option
[04:55] <palandia> HrdweBoB: i am at lynx text version so hwo can i know my paste url?
[04:55] <direwolf> non-apt
[04:55] <Goodspeed> how do i remove limewire if its not on add remove or synaptic
[04:55] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: hrm
[04:55] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: have you tried the 's3' driveR?
[04:56] <nickrud> ateoh211, not if it is just 'get my machine talking to another machine that will be my gateway'. But, corporate stuff cancels all normality.
[04:56] <b0xen> I'm getting a birthday present from the Ubuntu Foundation in october :)
[04:56] <palandia> HrdweBoB: saw my post?....i have not tried s3 driver
[04:57] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:57] <HrdwrBoB> it doesn't work :)
[04:57] <jmspeex> Any clue as to why the fonts in gv look bad?
[04:57] <palandia> HrdweBoB: vesa does not weork see that in the pasted text?
[04:57] <flowin> theres an anti-aliasing option in gv
[04:57] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: yes
[04:58] <phixion> anyone know of a repository with the latest tcl in? :E
[04:58] <yossnet81> "the greeter program appears to be crashing attempting to use a different one". in addition, weird colors are coming up on my VT's in random places
[04:58] <yossnet81> i am having trouble with breezy. my xserver is broken.  when it loads , gdm looks all funky (can't see anything) except a window on top that says the above
[04:58] <tha_gamemaster> is hpfs+ write support still "experimental" ?
[04:58] <yossnet81> any suggestions
[04:58] <Madpilot> phixion: do you have all repos enabled? Universe/Multiverse?
[04:59] <goldfish> yossnet81: read topic...
[04:59] <phixion> yes Madpilot :D
[04:59] <flowin> im using breezy now
[04:59] <flowin> seems ok
[04:59] <jmspeex> I guess I should say that gs is producing worse results (for screen display) than I've been used to.
[04:59] <jmspeex> i.e. gv, ggv and gnome-gv are affected
[04:59] <nickrud> flowin, how's your ctl-alt-f1?
[04:59] <F0ckF3ar22> Hey guys
[04:59] <yossnet81> goldfish- yeah, but my problems are nothing like anyone elses....
[05:00] <cookiemnstr> how do i setup dial-up on ubuntu
[05:00] <flowin> what does ctl-alt-f1 do
[05:00] <F0ckF3ar22> I have a sony vaio currently running a crappy debian (Sarge) im trying to install ubuntu.. i have the ubuntu cd's the only thing is for some reason i cant load the cd up.. im using an external cd rom drive
[05:00] <flowin> nickrud, doesnt seem to have any effect..
[05:01] <nickrud> flowin, that's one problem with breezy right now. Should get you a virtual console. But, congrats for getting that far :)\
[05:01] <Tremblay> Could someone suggest a way to have two Ubuntu laptops see each other on the same network? NFS requires one computer to act as a server, right?
[05:01] <flowin> ic.,
[05:01] <tha_gamemaster> Tremblay, i still use ftp but i'm "out of date"
[05:02] <avanspronsen> Tremblay, what do you want to do? copy files?
[05:02] <flowin> had some problems.. but just dist-upgraded.. and it worked magically
[05:02] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, copy files, mostly.
[05:02] <F0ckF3ar22> oh i must be talking to mhy self
[05:02] <F0ckF3ar22> I have a sony vaio currently running a crappy debian (Sarge) im trying to install ubuntu.. i have the ubuntu cd's the only thing is for some reason i cant load the cd up.. im using an external cd rom drive
[05:02] <avanspronsen> tremblay ssh?
[05:02] <flowin> F0ckF3ar22, try changing the boot order
[05:02] <Tremblay> Hm, does SSH have a GUI?
[05:02] <Madeye> i'm out
[05:03] <nickrud> F0ckF3ar22, again?
[05:03] <avanspronsen> you can select Places|Connect to Server and then slect SSH
[05:03] <cookiemnstr> how do i setup dial-up on ubuntu?
[05:04] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, pppconfig is the canonical way to get dialup
[05:04] <F0ckF3ar22> flowin i tried
[05:04] <flowin> why dont u try apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:04] <flowin> and change ur repo
[05:04] <flowin> ?
[05:04] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, do I have to setup something before hand?
[05:04] <phixion> can anyone help? whats this trying to tell me? - ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | make: *** [install-start]  Error 127
[05:05] <^thehatsrule^> phixion: you need tcl installed
[05:05] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, Applications->Terminal, then type sudo pppconfig, and enter your password if needed
[05:05] <phixion> I have it installed :o
[05:05] <phixion> how can i see if its running?
[05:05] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: sudo apt-get ssh from a terminal
[05:06] <cookiemnstr> ok i did that nickrud
[05:06] <avanspronsen> sorry, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> its the runtime libraries you need phixion, perhaps open the makefile to config it
[05:06] <goldfish> eh
[05:06] <cookiemnstr> what do i do to start the dial-up
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> to show where it is?
[05:06] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, so, were you able to enter your username and passord for your isp properly?
[05:06] <phixion> ^thehatsrule^, how do i open it? :)
[05:06] <cookiemnstr> yes i was
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> its a text file
[05:07] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, then.
[05:07] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, to your knowledge, will both computers be able to act as client and server without reboots or other configs?
[05:07] <cookiemnstr> yeah
[05:07] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: correct
[05:07] <phixion> ^thehatsrule^, the make file for the eggdrop?
[05:07] <cookiemnstr> whats next nickrud
[05:07] <^thehatsrule^> yes, maybe you have to specify the tcl paths?
[05:08] <cafuego> phixion: 'apt-get install eggdrop' will pull in all required libraries, as well as install the actual pos.
[05:08] <nickrud> two commands (pon, and poff) should start and stop your internet. I usually just hit <alt>f2 (the gnome run dialog) and did pon and poff as needed
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> ok
[05:08] <^thehatsrule^> bbl
[05:08] <phixion> thanks alot! :D
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> i typed pon it asked for my password
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> i used my dial up password and nothing happen
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> so i tried my log on passwprd and smae thing
[05:09] <shammy> 23:04:31]  -NickServ- please choose a different nick.
[05:09] <shammy> -
[05:09] <shammy> uh
[05:09] <shammy> disregard that
[05:09] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, then, let's try this: start a gnome-terminal (Applications->System Tools->Terminal) from the top menu
[05:10] <cookiemnstr> ok
[05:10] <paulproteus> shammy: Okay.
[05:10] <cookiemnstr> i am in windows now so i have to chance over to try
[05:11] <traveller> what iptables frontend would anyone recommend?
[05:11] <nickrud> Now, so we can see what's going on: right click the top panel, and add system monitor, if you don't already have it
[05:11] <cookiemnstr> so what do i type in the gnome-terminal
[05:11] <cookiemnstr> same thing
[05:11] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, sorry to bother, but how do I setup accounts in ssh?
[05:12] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, pon, to start, and poff, to stop the internet, as long as pppconfig questions were answered
[05:12] <cookiemnstr> ok thanks i will try that
[05:12] <cafuego> Tremblay: 'sudo adduser <username>'
[05:12] <Madpilot> traveller: Firestarter is easy to use
[05:12] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, sorry, I missed that you were in windows.
[05:12] <Tremblay> Thanks.
[05:12] <cookiemnstr> :)
[05:13] <palandia> HrdweBoB: with vesa i got FATAL IO Error 104 any idea? anybody?
[05:13] <palandia> HrdweBoB: with vesa i got FATAL IO Error 104 any idea? anybody?
[05:13] <palandia> anyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?
[05:13] <palandia> anyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?
[05:13] <phixion> cafuego, i did what you suggested and it install some stuff,  but still got the same error, in makefile it has the correct pathXREQS = /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.4.so' - any ideas? '
[05:13] <traveller> Madpilot: thanks, i'll give that a try
[05:13] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, first thing you want to do: discover if your modem is a 'winmodem'. If so, find out <exaclty> which one, and ask for help here again.
[05:13] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: you use the system accounts
[05:14] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: you will have at least one setup already on each machine
[05:14] <palandia> anyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?
[05:15] <paulproteus> phixion: You don't need to compile eggdrop anymore.
[05:15] <phixion> oh
[05:15] <phixion> well, i did sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[05:15] <phixion> where does it put it? :)
[05:15] <paulproteus> /usr/bin/eggdrop is where that trash is, probably
[05:15] <phixion> ah ok thanks
[05:15] <phixion> i see u guys are fans of eggdrops
[05:15] <phixion> :E
[05:15] <nickrud> is ubotu an eggdrop?
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> my modem is a  dsi d-f-v v90 di3635
[05:16] <crimsun> it's a modified blootblot.
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> nickrud
[05:16] <crimsun> blootbot.
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> my modem is a  dsi d-f-v v90 di3635
[05:16] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, a sec, I'll see if there's some info on that one
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> ok
[05:16] <paulproteus> !blootbot
[05:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, blootbot is see ubotu.
[05:17] <paulproteus> !ubotu
[05:17] <ubotu> hmm... ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[05:17] <paulproteus> !add
[05:17] <ubotu> hmm... add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[05:17] <Tribune> quit thanks s
[05:17] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, still around?
[05:17] <Goodspeed> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:17] <Goodspeed>   wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed
[05:17] <Goodspeed> how do i fix this??
[05:17] <palandia> !xserver
[05:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xserver is to reconfigure your Xserver, type into a terminal "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the "")
[05:17] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: sorry, lunch
[05:17] <palandia> !via
[05:17] <ubotu> palandia: Are you smoking crack?
[05:18] <palandia> ajaja
[05:18] <palandia> !vesa
[05:18] <ubotu> palandia: I give up, what is it?
[05:18] <palandia> !vesa
[05:18] <palandia> !help
[05:18] <luminerd> Hmm...why would I get this if I'm in Kubuntu?  Couldn't find package "ubuntu-desktop".  However, the following
[05:18] <luminerd> packages contain "ubuntu-desktop" in their name:  kubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <palandia> please somebody ehlp me
[05:18] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, thanks
[05:19] <traveller> does firestarter stop the firewall when i exit it?
[05:19] <{linuxcraker] > palandia whats wrong?
[05:19] <crimsun> luminerd: do you have the main repository enabled?
[05:19] <palandia> asd
[05:19] <luminerd> crimsun, umm, universe/
[05:19] <luminerd> ?
[05:19] <crimsun> luminerd: no, main.
[05:19] <flowin> traveller, no.. firestarter is just the gui
[05:19] <avanspronsen> traveller: No it does not
[05:19] <{linuxcraker] > hm
[05:19] <luminerd> crimsun, how do I do so?
[05:20] <crimsun> luminerd: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : i have a VIA/S3 Unichrome graphics card and it doesnt works with X in hoary any idea?
[05:20] <cookiemnstr> find anything on my modem nickrud
[05:20] <{linuxcraker] > hold on.
[05:20] <Goodspeed> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:20] <Goodspeed>   wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed
[05:20] <Goodspeed> can anyone help me with this?
[05:20] <luminerd> crimsun, do what?
[05:20] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : i have kernel for amd64 i helps?
[05:20] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, thanks, it's working. Is there a way I can restrict the access to /home/ only..?
[05:21] <traveller> so iptables and the firestarter rules would still continue to run even if firestarter is not?
[05:21] <xNinja> hello
[05:21] <xNinja> why ubuntu not debian ?
[05:21] <crimsun> luminerd: open a konsole and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:21] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, all I find for that thing is garbage, I would hope you can find a cheap external :)\
[05:21] <cookiemnstr> lol
[05:21] <luminerd> crimsun, well I know that but edit it with what? sorry
[05:21] <avanspronsen> xNinja: regular release, great community, easy to use distro
[05:22] <yo2k> how i send a message to another user ?
[05:22] <shane> hey guys, whats my best bet for a program for setting up and burning dvds?
[05:22] <geppy> I've just installed Ubuntu Hoary onto a new hard drive, and my sound just isn't working.  Rhythmbox plays, but nothing comes out.  All relevant channels are unmuted, and I haven't had sound problems with this same onboard soundcard in the past.
[05:22] <cookiemnstr> finding a external modem here is very hard
[05:22] <{linuxcraker] > may not be compatible palandia.. are you sure the device driver is supported for linux?
[05:22] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, likewise, I had to compile a driver (first time in a couple of years) to use the winmodem I have now
[05:22] <yo2k> HrdwrBoB, how i send a message to another user ?
[05:22] <xNinja> avanspronsen much easier than debian ?
[05:23] <{linuxcraker] > ..
[05:23] <flowin> geppy,  install gstreamer codecs
[05:23] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : got it?
[05:23] <luminerd> crimsun, so what do I add?
[05:23] <rob_p> traveller:  Yes.  All Firestarter does is load a bunch of packet filtering rules/policies into the kernel.  Unless you specifically have it remove them, they will stay intact.
[05:24] <crimsun> luminerd: you need a line containing main
[05:24] <geppy> flowin: I couldn't even hear gstreamer-properties's test stream.
[05:24] <{linuxcraker] > don't know.. maybe somthing went wrong during your installation of horray
[05:24] <{linuxcraker] > horay*
[05:24] <{linuxcraker] > hoary*
[05:24] <flowin> geppy, hmm try installing beep-media-player
[05:24] <avanspronsen> xNinja: The easiest to work with distro I have used
[05:25] <xNinja> avanspronsen all debian packages works with ubuntu ?
[05:25] <Vubuntu> xNinja, I like ubuntu better then debian because ubuntu come set up for the desktop user. Alot is configured for you already. I had to configure my sound in debian. Ubuntu already had it working
[05:25] <xNinja> lets say debian for servers ubuntu for desktops ?
[05:25] <Vubuntu> xNinja, That sounds about right
[05:25] <xNinja> i see
[05:26] <PurpleMotion> raven??
[05:26] <traveller> rob_p: thanks
[05:26] <xNinja> like mandriva and redhat enterprise
[05:26] <{linuxcraker] > i have a problem with xmms, it keeps freezing anyone know why?
[05:26] <crimsun> {linuxcraker] : is the output plugin set to esound?
[05:26] <{linuxcraker] > i don't know ill look
[05:26] <xNinja> i use ubuntu also and i like it :)
[05:26] <Vubuntu> xNinja, yea close to it. I feel ubuntu has more flexibility though then mandriva and redhat
[05:27] <xNinja> yeah sure with the apt-get :)
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > no it wasn't but now it is
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > will that fix it?
[05:27] <crimsun> try it.
[05:27] <Vubuntu> xNinja, :)
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > haha your my hero dude
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > it worked
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > thank you
[05:28] <SysFail> has anybody gotten squashfs put into ubuntu kernel???
[05:28] <{linuxcraker] > nope
[05:28] <xNinja> :)
[05:28] <Vubuntu> SysFail, what is it?
[05:28] <SysFail> need it to do a live-cd
[05:28] <SysFail> its a compression
[05:28] <SysFail> but it has to be built into the kernel it seems
[05:29] <rob_p> traveller:  No problem.  By the way, in case you are interested in a firewall alternative that is designed to automatically load at boot time, and is designed for Ubuntu, you can get it here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/
[05:29] <xNinja> Vubuntu the configuration files same as debian? i am thinking to buy a debian book
[05:29] <{linuxcraker] > sysfail, is your bios screwed up? i had a problem with the live and it was somthing screwy in the BIOS
[05:29] <SysFail> all I wanna do is make a live-cd bosed off my ubuntu install
[05:29] <SysFail> based
[05:29] <{linuxcraker] > oh nvm then
[05:30] <traveller> rob_p: i'll check it out
[05:30] <SysFail> i think they used morphix for the ubuntu live-cd
[05:30] <SysFail> so there has to be a way to do this
[05:30] <voyage34> question: how can I remove a package from apt-get's list of packages to grab when I apt-get install something. I have a package that keeps erroring out when I apt-get . I dont want it but not sure how to remove it
[05:30] <voyage34> tia btw
[05:30] <SysFail> ouch
[05:31] <Vubuntu> xNinja, for now I have found they are similar except for the Xserver base install for stable Debian.
[05:31] <xNinja> Vubuntu so u suggest to by the book no big differents?
[05:31] <rob_p> traveller:    Let me know what you think.  It's been through several revs now and I believe it to be a good firewall solution for Ubuntu.
[05:32] <traveller> rob_p: the page doesn't seem to be loading
[05:33] <xNinja> i am thinking about Debian GNU /Linux 3.1 Bible (Bible) any suggestions ?
[05:33] <rob_p> traveller:  that's odd!  let me double-check the URL...
[05:33] <Vubuntu> xNinja, well I have worked with Debian and Ubuntu but I haven't gotten really deep into debian. So I can't really give you a good answer on that question. I do think Ubuntu is going to be changing alot in the future.
[05:33] <xNinja> i see
[05:34] <traveller> rob_p: i think it's firestarter, i stopped it and the page loads
[05:34] <Vubuntu> xNinja, you might be able to get a book on debian for cheap though :)
[05:34] <rob_p> traveller:  Ok... whew!  I was worried for a minute :)
[05:34] <xNinja> :)
[05:34] <Doonz> hey is anyone familiar with the real magic hollywood plus card?
[05:34] <voyage34> question: how can I remove a package from apt-get's list of packages to grab when I apt-get install something. I have a package that keeps erroring out when I apt-get . I dont want it but not sure how to remove it
[05:35] <Doonz> it has a tv out im wondering if i hook it up will i see my monitor on my tv
[05:35] <traveller> rob_p: it's odd that firestarter would block it
[05:35] <xNinja> infact i want to buy a books collection aiming for hacking/ethic
[05:35] <shane> would anyone know  a good program for burning and setting up dvds
[05:35] <Vubuntu> xNinja, like 5 or 10bucks used. So that way you won't be wasting you money if you find alot of different things about ubuntu.
[05:35] <rob_p> traveller:  Yeah, that is odd!
[05:36] <traveller> rob_p: it seems that the block was triggered by a traceroute from the server
[05:36] <xNinja> i want to go for hacking/security to be good in hacking to be more good in security
[05:36] <SysFail> shane: k3b
[05:36] <rob_p> traveller:  triggered by what?
[05:37] <traveller> rob_p: a traceroute, it is logged by firestarter in events
[05:37] <Vubuntu> Vubuntu, I"m mainly a desktop user. So i'm by no means an expert with Debian or Ubuntu. I have used Slackware,fedora, suse, mandriva also. So i'm no newbie eaither :)
[05:37] <Vubuntu> ack lol I mean xNinja
[05:37] <tha_gamemaster> ati + linux = headache?
[05:37] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : are you there?
[05:38] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yea thats right
[05:38] <rob_p> traveller:  as in a traceroute being done from my server to you?
[05:38] <xNinja> i want to take Hacking Exposed 5th Edition, Gray Hat Hacking : The Ethical Hacker's Handbook Nessus, Snort, & Ethereal Power Tools : Customizing Open Source Security Applications/ Network Security Assessment / Network Security Hacks
[05:38] <traveller> rob_p: that's what it says on the log
[05:38] <{linuxcraker] > yes
[05:38] <xNinja> i want to be a hacking/security/analyzer expert :P
[05:38] <xabier> exit
[05:38] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, darn, i was hoping to use some ati cards for a PVR box, guess i'll buy the wintv with the hauppage chip
[05:38] <{linuxcraker] > sorry
[05:38] <Vubuntu> xNinja, good we need more :)
[05:38] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: well uh, what card have you got now?
[05:39] <rob_p> traveller:  I do have a Web-based traceroute utility on my website... but what are the chances...  hrm...
[05:39] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, ati all in wonder radeon ...32MB and 64MB one's a 7000 something i think
[05:39] <xNinja> Vubuntu need more of what ? ethical hackers ?
[05:39] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: thats not supported by official drivers, youll have to get your hands on 3rd party drivers
[05:40] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: official supports radeons 8500+
[05:40] <Vubuntu> xNinja, sure :) The more the better to get out systems secure as possible
[05:40] <xNinja> :)
[05:40] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, ah these are too old then, thanks, *laughs* my brother is having a nightmare with his ati under winblows, and I enjoy my linux without error
[05:41] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: hehe, you can buy 3d drivers if you need it... XiG i think it was
[05:41] <coldfile1162> can i use the ubuntu add-on cd with kubuntu?
[05:41] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, buy drivers you say? i'm confuzzled...
[05:42] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yea, theyre commercial
[05:42] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident /
[05:42] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: ati's just starting to give a little linux support for their new cards...
[05:42] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, is this the company you were talking about ? http://www.xig.com/Pages/Summit/HdweSupported/ChipINDEX.html
[05:43] <ZaphoidBB> I just installed Ubuntu "Horay Hedgehog" and I use a PS2 mouse. I just did a fresh install, but my mouse wont work! How can I fix this?
[05:43] <coldfile1162> CAN I USE THE UBUNTU ADD_ON CD ON KUBUNTU?
[05:43] <Vubuntu> xNinja, so what linux distros have you tried?
[05:43] <SysFail> couldnt hear you coldfile1162
[05:43] <SysFail> what?
[05:43] <Quest-Master> coldfile1162: turn off caps lock~
[05:43] <coldfile1162> oh sorry
[05:43] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yeah, xig :)
[05:43] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident /
[05:44] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: i know it should work, cause AA recommends it for linux
[05:44] <shammy>  how can I determine what chipset my wireless networking adapter is?
[05:44] <xNinja> Vubuntu now i have debian as vhosting server running as main server and ubuntu at laptop and i am a RHCE but after taking it i left the rh :D
[05:44] <^thehatsrule^> shammy: look on the chip itself
[05:44] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, cool, thanks. I'm looking at all this hardware and just aching to do something linux with it, but not too many ideas.
[05:44] <coldfile1162> can someone tell me if i can use the ubuntu add-on cd on kubuntu?
[05:44] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yeah, heh... i had my hands on a radeon 7k too, but didnt bother to buy the drivers
[05:45] <tha_gamemaster> shammy, lspci
[05:45] <shammy> tha_gamemaster: in my case, lsusb, right?
[05:45] <shammy> since it's an adapter
[05:45] <balistic22> Hey i have a vaio taht i just did a floppy install to download debian (sarge) and i recently just got a hold of an external cd rom drive
[05:45] <palandia> does anyone has compiled the via driver for unichrome?
[05:45] <balistic22> and im trying to install ubuntu but i cant
[05:45] <Vubuntu> xNinja, good to hear :). Soon ubuntu will rule the world! :)
[05:45] <xNinja> Vubuntu i also tried freebsd but not alot
[05:45] <tha_gamemaster> shammy, you are quite correct
[05:46] <craig__> Hey
[05:46] <xNinja> Vubuntu u sure ?
[05:46] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, separate question, any suggestions how to set up linux to act as a port restricter between one computer and the network? i just want to allow like 4 ports to one machine
[05:46] <Vubuntu> xNinja, yea me too. I tried freebsd too but didn't more care for since you have to configure every little thing on it lol
[05:46] <tha_gamemaster> Vubuntu, i'm looking at OpenBSD
[05:46] <craig__> I have a problem with my network the xp system can see my ubuntu system but i can seem to see my own shared folder
[05:47] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: like a linux router? try using some firewall, like iptables
[05:47] <craig__> Any ideas why this would be?
[05:47] <Vubuntu> tha_gamemaster, how is OpenBSD?
[05:47] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, yea just like a router, but EXTREMELY restrictive
[05:47] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yea you can just config it in the firewall
[05:47] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident
[05:47] <tha_gamemaster> Vubuntu, apparently the most secure of all the BSDs, but i've yet to install it successfully *laughs*
[05:47] <ZincX> ??
[05:47] <xNinja> Vubuntu i dont know why i love the freebsd/devil :P but debian/ubuntu seems to told me no debian/ubuntu is here
[05:47] <ZincX> no one knows aen ?
[05:47] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, cool i've got to look at it...
[05:48] <craig__> It was working fine last night but does not seem to be working now
[05:48] <^thehatsrule^> :)
[05:48] <Vubuntu> tha_gamemaster, haha all I got to say is goooooooooooood luck. :)
[05:48] <^thehatsrule^> heh i hear freebsd is supposedly the best choice ;p
[05:48] <SysFail> nothing wrong with freebsd
[05:49] <SysFail> used it for 6 years
[05:49] <traveller> are there any other firewall frontends that will start at boot and provide a gui?
[05:49] <regeya> splits are fun
[05:49] <palandia> anyone can help me downloading the kernel source with apt?
[05:49] <palandia> please
[05:50] <Vubuntu> xNinja, well Freebsd is nice if you like full control in configuring everything. But in my experience it all leads to the same thing. A Working System LOL
[05:50] <regeya> traveller, when you say 'any other' what are we ruling out here
[05:50] <avanspronsen> pc-bsd looks promising, simple package management, install asks just a couple of questions
[05:50] <craig__> can anyone help how do i find my shared folder on my network i cant seem to see it anymore
[05:51] <Vubuntu> avanspronsen, yea i've tried pc-bsd too. It I think it will go far in the future! It's super user easy. I liked it
[05:51] <traveller> regeya: anything basically, i've tried firehol but it logs to /var/log/messages and messes up dmesg, shorewall is a bit too hard for me to configure
[05:51] <tha_gamemaster> palandia, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:51] <avanspronsen> Vubuntu: I dropped it fast though because they don;t yet do gnome
[05:51] <SysFail> regeya: you wanna use a dedicated linux box for this?
[05:52] <Vubuntu> avanspronsen, oh yea. I start having withdrawl symtoms when I don't got my gnome. And it's not pretty! :)
[05:52] <regeya> SysFail, tab-completion sucks sometimes, don't it?
[05:53] <SysFail> wasnt it you looking for the firewall thing?
[05:53] <xNinja> Vubuntu lol :)
[05:53] <avanspronsen> Vubuntu: me too :-)
[05:53] <xNinja> avanspronsen why gnome not kde /
[05:53] <hondje> Anyone use multisync?
[05:53] <ZaphoidBB> How do I go about installing Azereus on Ubuntu?
[05:53] <kestas> can anyone recommend a good wireless pcmcia card for my laptop which will work with ubuntu?
[05:53] <benplaut> !azureus
[05:53] <ubotu> benplaut: Are you smoking crack?
[05:53] <regeya> traveller, I've not used it with Ubuntu but I've used Firestarter on other Linux distributions.  It's pretty simple.  I can't vouch for it being ultra-safe but I had no problems.
[05:53] <benplaut> no, i'm not
[05:54] <tha_gamemaster> kestas, orinoco
[05:54] <ZaphoidBB> !azureus
[05:54] <kestas> k thanks
[05:54] <regeya> SysFail, I asked traveller a question about traveller's GUI firewall question.
[05:54] <benplaut> ZaphoidBB:  www.ubuntuhuide.com
[05:54] <SysFail> ok
[05:54] <benplaut> woops
[05:54] <avanspronsen> xNinja: Kde just seems to be too much.  HArd to explain, gnome is simple, responsive
[05:54] <SysFail> nm then
[05:54] <hondje> I like the rules firestarter makes, really well done I think
[05:54] <benplaut> ubuntuguide.org
[05:54] <traveller> regeya: hm...does firestarter load up on boot?
[05:55] <f_newton> yes traveller
[05:55] <regeya> avanspronsen, well said.  I wish there were a happy medium between gnome's simplicity and kde's ultra-configurability...I remember when it was the other way around...lol
[05:55] <f_newton> its running from boot and if you call the gui you are only opening up a configuration window
[05:56] <thewarrior> hey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work
[05:56] <f_newton> regeya, and when was that ever the case?
[05:56] <nickrud> I hadn't looked at firestarter's rules for a while; they certainly are shorter :)
[05:56] <ZaphoidBB> I ran apt-get install azureus.. All it said was that it could not find package azureus
[05:56] <avanspronsen> regeya: it is hard to explain a personal preference to someone else :-)
[05:56] <regeya> f_newton, a few years ago.
[05:56] <thewarrior> hey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work
[05:56] <Vubuntu> xNinja, gnome gets the Job done. I feel like I got too much laying around with kde. It just seems that way
[05:57] <f_newton> uh ok whatever you say regeya
[05:57] <regeya> f_newton, if you have a specific objection to what I said just spit it out :-)
[05:57] <balistic22> how do i find out what my architecture is "Running debian"
[05:57] <thewarrior> hello?
[05:57] <regeya> f_newton, what was your opinion of kde 1.x vs. gnome at the time?
[05:57] <nickrud> regeya, 1.0.56, maybe :)
[05:57] <f_newton> I dont... everyone is welcome to their opinion but honestly kde has always been massive bloat since day one
[05:57] <kestas> I just got a new laptop and installed ubuntu on it but the problem is the synaptics mousepad is really unsensitive to tapping on it to make mouse clicks, is there any way of increasing the sensitivity
[05:57] <kestas> ?
[05:57] <black13> nomasteryoda?
[05:58] <balistic22> Omg..
[05:58] <f_newton> gnome has always been a lot easier to run even before kde 1
[05:58] <balistic22> i need some help
[05:58] <thewarrior> hey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work. what do i click on to get it to work i just installed ubuntu like 30 mins ago
[05:58] <windex> f_newton, i know. almost as bad as the kernel. who the heck needs ppc support anyway?
[05:58] <regeya> f_newton, that has little to do with my comment about role-reversal of the projects, but thanks for sharing
[05:58] <f_newton> Idontg
[05:58] <tha_gamemaster> kestas, any wireless card with the prismII chipset should work also
[05:58] <ZaphoidBB> I ran apt-get update.. Then an apt-get install azureus... But it is still saying package not found.
[05:59] <thewarrior> does anyone here use teamspeak?
[05:59] <kestas> tha_gamemaster, do you have a wireless system set up? can I pm you?
[05:59] <calc> gnome was pretty yuck until 2.0
[05:59] <f_newton> well the non rh version was thats true
[05:59] <xNinja> hey Vubuntu are you a live:)
[05:59] <thewarrior> Does Anyone use teamspeak i need help with it
[06:00] <f_newton> most distros used kde because it was an everything including the kitchen sink window manager
[06:00] <Vubuntu> xNinja, no i'm a dead :)
[06:00] <kestas> tha_gamemaster, do you know of a wireless set up which is cheap, can reach the whole house, and is linux compatible?
[06:00] <f_newton> kestas, netgear
[06:00] <tha_gamemaster> kestas, yea you can pm me
[06:00] <xNinja> Vubuntu ooh thats bad then who i gona hack when i be an expert :P
[06:00] <balistic22> Im running a debian kernel (sarge) and i was trying to install ubuntu off of debian because i didnt have a cd rom drive.. now i have an external cd rom drive and im having trouble booting ubuntu can i get some help
[06:00] <kestas> it doesnt have to be fast, have a firewall, or 1 billion config options
[06:00] <thewarrior> Hello can anyone see my writing
[06:01] <regeya> no, thewarrior, try retyping it
[06:01] <thewarrior> lol
[06:01] <avanspronsen> :-)
[06:01] <Vubuntu> xNinja, how about bill gates. :) #rm windows :)
[06:01] <thewarrior> does anyone here have teamspeak??
[06:02] <balistic22> hey i guess no one wants to help me
[06:02] <thewarrior> i installed the linux version but i cant get it to run
[06:02] <avanspronsen> thewarrior: sounds sound like it bud?  Have you tried google?
[06:02] <f_newton> kestas you can get an entire package including wifi cards from netgear G for around 50 dollars sometimes as low as 30 dollars
[06:03] <avanspronsen> thewarrior: sorry, doesn't sound like it, have you tried google?
[06:03] <thewarrior> nope hey gocheck out www.justfuckinggoogle.com
[06:03] <xNinja> Vubuntu nice aiming :P
[06:03] <kestas> f_newton, is that with crappy range? Id like to be able to use wireless form the whole house
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> can anyone here connect to austnets IRC servers?
[06:03] <Vubuntu> xNinja, :)
[06:03] <kestas> f_newton, could you give me the name to google?
[06:03] <balistic22> Which ubuntu cd should i use if its 'I686
[06:03] <f_newton> kestas unless you live in a house the size of bill gates shoppingmall sized house yes
[06:04] <f_newton> kestas NETGEAR
[06:04] <avanspronsen> balistic22: there is only 1 CD
[06:04] <kestas> f_newton, k :) netgear it is
[06:04] <balistic22>  hteres other cds depending on architecture
[06:04] <balistic22> Ok right now on my other lap top
[06:04] <f_newton> kestas, there are other brands out there too but make sure they are linux compatible before you buy them
[06:04] <balistic22> i see Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 debian22 tty1
[06:05] <balistic22> IM trying to access the cd rom for install
[06:05] <balistic22> WHat DO I DO
[06:05] <f_newton> netgear is usually the least expensive of the major brands
[06:05] <avanspronsen> balistic22:  you can update the kernel afterwards via apt-get
[06:05] <balistic22> avanspronsen how
[06:05] <kestas> f_newton, how do you tell if a netgear is linux compatible?
[06:05] <f_newton> most netgear cards use the intersil prism2 driver
[06:05] <balistic22> avanspronsen how do i get to apt... and for some reason i installed gnome but there were some errors with the screen
[06:06] <f_newton> while some super g cards etc use the 2.5 and may not be out of the box compatible ndiswrapper takes care of it
[06:06] <ZaphoidBB> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu. And when I try to apt-get install sun-j2rel.5 as per http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre it says E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[06:06] <hondje> anyone using multisync?
[06:06] <avanspronsen> sudp apt-get install kernel-image-686 from a terminal
[06:06] <Burgundavia> ZaphoidBB, better guide at wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:07] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, you still around? I got called away by work, didn't get a chance to finish your modem question
[06:07] <f_newton> kestas, My suggestion is to shop around, do some reading, and check the compatibility site
[06:07] <avanspronsen> balistic22: you can also go to System -> Administration -> synaptic package manager for a gui
[06:08] <balistic22> i dont have a gui
[06:08] <balistic22> and it just told me
[06:08] <f_newton> balistic22, you running sarge?
[06:08] <ZaphoidBB> Heh, using the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java I ran the command apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it still says "Couldn`t find package"
[06:09] <avanspronsen> ZaphoidBB: did you install the additional repositories?
[06:09] <ZaphoidBB> I just saw that, and I am an idiot for not reading 100%. I apologise.
[06:09] <shammy> normally when i put a disc in the drive, it auto mounts it and puts an icon on the desktop, but now it isnt recognizing it at all, i need the kernel headers to get my wifi going so i need the install disc
[06:09] <avanspronsen> ZaphoidBB: NP :-)
[06:10] <Burgundavia> ZaphoidBB, the page was badly done, I have redone it
[06:11] <ZaphoidBB> Universe and Multiverse.. I love the obscure refrence there :)
[06:11] <nickrud> !components
[06:11] <balistic22> f_newton yes i am running sarge
[06:11] <ubotu> methinks components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[06:12] <f_newton> I guessed that from your no gui statement yep you dont have one
[06:13] <jrattner1> Is unbuntu good for laptops
[06:14] <avanspronsen> jrattner1: It works great on my Thinkpad t41P
[06:14] <TeeagooColony2> what is more fast KDE or GNOME? ( my pc is a k6 500, 256 ram... )
[06:14] <Adrenline> im also using it on a t41
[06:14] <ratl3> xfce
[06:14] <f_newton> jrattner1, I think so ... its been good on mine so far
[06:14] <Adrenline> works great
[06:14] <jrattner1> even with new hardware
[06:14] <jrattner1> I cant get anything to go to well on my machine
[06:14] <avanspronsen> jrattner1: my T41p is about a year old
[06:15] <avanspronsen> jrattner1: using a docking station is another matter though :-)
[06:15] <balistic22> I cant access m yfuckin cd rom drive
[06:15] <balistic22> sorry for language
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> calm down
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> how are you trying to access it?
[06:15] <kestas> f_newton, http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG511.php seems cheap and good, but it doesnt say linux is supported
[06:15] <kestas> how can I tell?
[06:16] <Xenguy> eeeez gun balistik mate !
[06:16] <f_newton> look up what driver it has... you can do that by checking driver.com against the model # of the card
[06:16] <Adrenline> anyone know how I find the name of a package im looking for? example: I need to install the samba libs. dont know the name to pop into apt to do such.
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> benplaut:  got my new video card today, m8
[06:16] <balistic22> howdo i whipe out everything on my hardrive and start from scratch
[06:17] <f_newton> balistic22, do you have an ubuntu cd?
[06:17] <avanspronsen> Adrenline: you can do a sudo apt-cache search <text> to help narrow down the possibilities
[06:17] <deprave> just put the cd in your cdrom, set cd bootable, reinstall
[06:17] <balistic22> f_newton yes i do
[06:17] <balistic22> deprave i cant my comp wont recognize the thing.. it says it sees the usb external cd rom drive but it wont boot from it
[06:17] <PurpleMotion> balistic22:  reinstall ubuntu and tell the installer to erase the disk
[06:17] <shammy> Why won;t it recognize the drive and put an icon on the desktop anymore when i put a cd in? I need to get the kernel headers but can't without the install cd
[06:17] <nickrud> balistic22, boot the hoary install, and tell the installer to use the whole dis
[06:17] <nickrud> k
[06:18] <ZaphoidBB> One last question. can ubuntu cure the common cold? If it can, what is the package name in apt?
[06:18] <deprave> balistic22: interesting
[06:18] <balistic22> the computer cannot load the cd up
[06:18] <balistic22> its an external cd rom drive i dunno what to do
[06:18] <avanspronsen> shammy: have you removed the CD entry from /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:18] <deprave> balistic22 : shake your fist at it and say "lookie here mr, take it and love it!"
[06:18] <deprave> but really.
[06:18] <benplaut> grr... bored2k, come online
[06:18] <deprave> hmm
[06:18] <PurpleMotion> balistic22:  does your bios have an option to boot from usb?
[06:18] <balistic22> lol
[06:18] <shammy> avanspronsen: nope, this is a fresh install and i've done nothing but reconfigure x
[06:19] <balistic22> PurpleMotion no it doesnt
[06:19] <avanspronsen> shammy: if you remove the cd entry you will force apt to go to the online repositories
[06:19] <Adrenline> anyone here had trouble compiling mplayer with smb support?
[06:19] <balistic22> i dunno what to do
[06:20] <shammy> avanspronsen: I need the kernel headers so i can install ndiswrapper and get my internet working, so i can't get the online repositories
[06:20] <avanspronsen> shammy: gotcha
[06:20] <deprave> balistic22 : unfortunately i don't know the solution to your problem.
[06:21] <shammy> avanspronsen: what is the cdrom's name so i can mount it manually?
[06:21] <Lancellor> how do i do to change a video card giv me and error when is booting
[06:21] <balistic22> ugh...
[06:22] <Adrenline> anyone on the mplayer/smb thing?
[06:22] <BeatYou> am i lagging or something?
[06:22] <deprave> how did you get it on there the first time?
[06:22] <f_newton> ballistic your cd rom drive will free itself on reboot if absolutely necessary but do you know the cli for operating it?
[06:23] <skalpel> is there a way to make rhthymbox scan for new music on start/
[06:23] <skalpel> ?
[06:23] <nickrud> probably, I've been lagging a bit now and then
[06:23] <BeatYou> strange
[06:23] <avanspronsen> shammy: depends, how many hard drives?
[06:23] <balistic22> whats cli f_newton
[06:23] <nickrud> as if the net always works :)
[06:23] <calc> cli == command line interface
[06:23] <f_newton> command line interface
[06:24] <shammy> avanspronsen: 2 hardrives, one cdrom/dvd drive
[06:24] <crispynix-v6> oi
[06:24] <avanspronsen> shammy: /dev//hdc
[06:24] <clinton> when i type aptitude install libwcgtk2.4 it does nothing!
[06:24] <clinton> but when i search for it
[06:24] <shammy> avanspronsen: ok thanks
[06:24] <clinton> it shows up
[06:24] <clinton> (and i don't already have it :()
[06:24] <avanspronsen> shammy: give it a try, let me know
[06:24] <balistic22> how do i find out the cli
[06:25] <clinton> erm
[06:25] <clinton> libwxgtk2.4
[06:25] <balistic22> cant i just whipe out the whole efin hard drive and start from scratch
[06:25] <shammy> avanspronsen: one more thing, suppose it gets mounted correctly, how can i specify the cd is in that dir to get the headers?
[06:26] <f_newton> balistic22, what is your goal?
[06:26] <calc> balistic22: yea it asks you if you want to erase the whole drive and install to it
[06:26] <avanspronsen> shammy: just do your apt-get install, it should find it if it is mounted
[06:26] <balistic22> f_newton  i want to install ubuntu on this mini laptop
[06:26] <clinton> how do i install libwxgtk2.4 for audacity :(
[06:26] <shammy> avanspronsen: thanks alot
[06:27] <f_newton> do you have a web browser loaded or do you have the cdrom for ubuntu?
[06:27] <balistic22> I have a cd rom for ubuntu
[06:27] <balistic22> i ordered like 50 million
[06:27] <avanspronsen> shammy: np, I am just learning this stuff too, hopefully I got you going in the right direction :-)
[06:27] <f_newton> ok balistic22 reset the machine and when the bios is reloading open up your cdrom drive and insert the ubuntu disk
[06:28] <f_newton> it will be unlocked at that time
[06:28] <SteveB_> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:28] <f_newton> then reset and follow instructions
[06:28] <balistic22> F_newton ok let me try that
[06:28] <f_newton> ok
[06:28] <balistic22> f_newton you know this is an external cd rom drive right
[06:28] <balistic22> plugged in through usb
[06:29] <Lancellor> anyone how to change a video card get a error when booting
[06:29] <clinton> does anyone know a good recording program?
[06:29] <clinton> alternative to audacity??
[06:29] <f_newton> no I didnt
[06:29] <f_newton> hang on a second then
[06:29] <balistic22> f_newton yeah its a plextor dvdr drive
[06:29] <balistic22> f_newton ok
[06:29] <f_newton> thats y you cant find your cdrom drive then
[06:30] <f_newton> balistic22, in your bios dont you have a boot from usb device option?
[06:30] <Lancellor> http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/   try this
[06:30] <f_newton> give me the make n model of your lappy
[06:30] <balistic22> SOny VAio Pcg-c1xs
[06:30] <f_newton> ah the vaio
[06:30] <clinton> thanks lancellor
[06:30] <Lancellor> the audio software  http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/
[06:30] <balistic22> came with an external floppy
[06:30] <balistic22> is all
[06:31] <f_newton> a lot of money for a very little bit of hardware
[06:31] <balistic22> i got it free
[06:31] <f_newton> ok.... well it does have a boot on usb option in the bios
[06:31] <f_newton> unless its an old old one
[06:31] <f_newton> well free is a great price
[06:31] <balistic22> well it came with win 98
[06:31] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:31] <f_newton> hmmm
[06:31] <shammy> avanspronsen: i just tryed mounting the cdrom drive, it's spinning and the terminal is at a blank line, like something is happening..but it's still going, how long would it take?
[06:32] <f_newton> balistic22, let me check the stats on that model...brb
[06:32] <balistic22> f_newton ok i really appreciate you helping me out
[06:32] <f_newton> been there balistic22 been there.
[06:32] <avanspronsen> shammy: shouldn't take long at all
[06:33] <Xenguy> shammy: Ctrl-C ?
[06:33] <shammy> Xenguy: what does that do? the comp is upstairs
[06:33] <Xenguy> shammy: returns a hung session to a command prompt
[06:34] <balistic22> lol
[06:34] <shammy> ok thanks
[06:34] <Xenguy> yw
[06:34] <avanspronsen> shammy: If you type mount in a terminal windows you don't see a line with /media/cdrom?
[06:35] <shammy> avanspronsen: i need to go do ctr c like xenguy said, but last time i looked it was still processing something
[06:35] <avanspronsen> shammy: ok, sounds good
[06:36] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:36] <balistic22> random question.. i forgot what was my root login name.. how do i find out what names are in the sudoer file
[06:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> balistic22: only root can read the sudoers file
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> live cd time ;)
[06:37] <balistic22> well i forgot the root sn
[06:37] <Brunellus> is only the first user added to sudoers by default
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> balistic22: did you create one? try using sudo
[06:37] <Mobus> How do I cd into a folder whose name has a space in it?
[06:37] <Brunellus> or is every subsequent user added, too?
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Brunellus: yes
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> just first
[06:37] <Brunellus> awesome.
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mobus: using "\ "
[06:37] <balistic22> nvm
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> the \ is to escape the space
[06:38] <Xenguy> Mobus: escape the space with a '\' character
[06:38] <Mobus> so it'd be #: cd folder\name?
[06:38] <nickrud> Brunellus, if you want some to  have sudo privs, add them to th admin group
[06:38] <f_newton> balistic22, ok ... this is a pII 400mhz machine with only 64 megs of ram and a 2 gig hdd   you dont need to be setting up any linux gui enabled os on it
[06:38] <f_newton> there isnt enough room
[06:38] <f_newton> or memory speed
[06:38] <Brunellus> no, I don't want them to have sudo privs...no way.
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mobus: folder\ name
[06:38] <Mobus> ah thanks
[06:38] <nickrud> lol. Brunellus good choice :)
[06:38] <Brunellus> I shudder to think what my mother could do with sudo privs!
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> f_newton: more RAM and it would be fine
[06:39] <balistic22> f_newton i dont understand
[06:39] <f_newton> Kamping_Kaiser, more ram and more hdd space
[06:39] <Brunellus> not like she knows how to do anything...but all those GUIs are so tempting, and so easy to break by messing with them inadvertently
[06:39] <Brunellus> hell, I know from bitter personal experience!
[06:39] <Mobus> thanks bunches
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> f_newton: 2 gig is fine
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> for Ubuntu
[06:39] <nickrud> gdm root privs, by any chance Brunellus ?
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mobus: all good
[06:39] <f_newton> balistic22, u dont have the system resources to run a linux gui  you barely have the resourcese to run win98
[06:40] <Brunellus> say again nickrud?
[06:40] <f_newton> not for a gui install it isnt
[06:40] <balistic22> so what do i do... ? Throw the laptop out the window
[06:40] <Brunellus> f_newton:  false
[06:40] <liraz> Does anyone know of a program similar to kalarm for gnome(since trying to download kalarm forces me to basically download all kde libs). I want it mainly for the timed reminders...
[06:40] <Brunellus> you can run a linux GUI with very limited resources
[06:40] <Brunellus> it just requires very careful package selection
[06:40] <Brunellus> you can't run GNOME, for sure
[06:41] <Brunellus> but IceWM or Fluxbox or Openbox, sure
[06:41] <f_newton> ok fine... what w/m then?
[06:41] <Xenguy> liraz: just d/l the KDE lib's :-)
[06:41] <Brunellus> I'd go with flux
[06:41] <f_newton> we are only talking 2g hdd...
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> liraz: try using evolution
[06:41] <nickrud> fluxbox, if I can't use gnome
[06:41] <Brunellus> f_newton:  have you started looking into DamnSmallLinux?
[06:41] <f_newton> yeah or xfce
[06:41] <Brunellus> the whole distro is 50 MB
[06:42] <nickrud> no, fluxbox, for me ; P
[06:42] <f_newton> Ive got a linux install on a floppy drive
[06:42] <balistic22> f_newton what should i do
[06:42] <Brunellus> right.  this isn't a 'how small can you make your distro' contest...
[06:42] <f_newton> but its not gonna be what a n00b is expecting at all
[06:42] <f_newton> he cant run sarge
[06:42] <nickrud> it's what works, and where it works
[06:42] <Brunellus> if the choice is between the computer that works
[06:42] <Brunellus> and the computer that doesn't
[06:42] <f_newton> right
[06:42] <liraz> Kamping_Kaiser, does it have timed reminders which pop up on my screen without running the whole e-mail client?
[06:43] <ColonelKernel> sarge is ok, I dont like the whole xfree86/gnome2.8 thing
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> liraz: i believe so, but i don't use it
[06:43] <Brunellus> I'd teach him to use the computer that works. and I'd either go with DSL or with ubuntu as configured in the lowmem wikipage
[06:43] <Brunellus> (and the associated forum howto)
[06:43] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> SteveB__: i cant help, sorry
[06:44] <f_newton> balistic22, If it was me, but honestly if these fine folks have a better solution for you it wont hurt to listen, but if it was me I would try to get bigger memory and a bigger hdd first then read the data on google results from linux on your laptop
[06:44] <balistic22> Brunellus f_newton What do you guys think i should do.. i mean i have more then 2gb hardrive this thing has more space then that
[06:44] <Brunellus> how much RAM have you got?
[06:44] <f_newton> who changed your drive balistic22 ?
[06:44] <Brunellus> if you have around 128 MB, I'd go with XFCE
[06:45] <Brunellus> but you'd also need to find a way to automout removeable storage...which shouldn't be that bad
[06:45] <balistic22> f_newton this laptop belonged to my cousin and when he had win 98 the thing said 10 gb of space
[06:45] <f_newton> the web site said you have a 64mb ram 2gig hdd
[06:45] <balistic22> actually 13
[06:45] <b0xen> Hey, anybody have any idea what the default root password on the Ubuntu Live CD is?
[06:45] <Brunellus> b0xen, there is none....
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> b0xen: there isnt one afaik
[06:45] <f_newton> balistic if you have that much load ubuntu
[06:45] <Brunellus> sudo 'ubuntu'
[06:45] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:45] <b0xen> it wont let me su into root
[06:45] <balistic22> f_newton how do i load the effin cd
[06:45] <b0xen> blank password doesnt work either
[06:45] <nickrud> f_newton, I'm lagging, but the 'mem & disk' is fine advice
[06:45] <luminerd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350118
[06:45] <fr500> b0xen, sudo su?
[06:46] <b0xen> sudu: command not found
[06:46] <Brunellus> f_newton: I'd add one caveat--a full-bore Ubuntu install is going to be dog-slow
[06:46] <f_newton> yeah I know Brunellus he isnt going to be happy
[06:46] <avanspronsen> b0xen: sudo
[06:46] <fr500> b0xen, sudo
[06:46] <Brunellus> f_newton:  I'd go with xfce or flux
[06:46] <f_newton> its only a 400mhz p2
[06:46] <b0xen> sudu: command not found
[06:46] <f_newton> sudo
[06:46] <Brunellus> f_newton:  that's plenty for flux
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> f_newton: i have run Ubuntu on pentium 200s with 96 MB of RAM
[06:47] <b0xen> ooooh
[06:47] <b0xen> lol
[06:47] <balistic22> im using it just to hold on to music
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> "just a 400" doesnt stand up ;)
[06:47] <balistic22> thats all im doing
[06:47] <b0xen> thanks lol
[06:47] <Brunellus> Kaiser_essen:  did you run GNOME?!
[06:47] <b0xen> i feel dumb
[06:47] <balistic22> and at least run aim
[06:47] <balistic22> what should i do
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> my parents box is a 400 with 128 MB of RAM
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> Brunellus: yes
[06:47] <Brunellus> Gott im Himmel.
[06:47] <f_newton> well heck first check your bios to see if you can boot from usb device
[06:47] <f_newton> if you can set it to that
[06:47] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:48] <f_newton> then stick the cdrom in the sucka and hit enter
[06:48] <Kaiser_essen> *I'm gone*
[06:48] <Brunellus> I'd have gone with flux with that little RAM.  you were pretty brave to stay with GNOME
[06:48] <Kaiser_essen> :)
[06:48] <balistic22> f_newton i would of tried that by now... the only 3 options cd rom drive , hardrive , and floppy
[06:48] <balistic22> when i try cd rom drive it dont do jack
[06:49] <f_newton> do you have a ?
[06:49] <balistic22> what do you mean f_newton
[06:49] <f_newton> do you have the floppy driver disk for your usb device?
[06:49] <Brunellus> bah.
[06:50] <f_newton> install that at boot if it has command.com on it with the ubuntu disk in the cdrom drive
[06:50] <fr500> how would you do a net install if the bios doesnt support pxe?
[06:50] <balistic22> f_newton yes i do have the floppy
[06:50] <shammy> I installed the kernel headers with synaptic, but where does it install them? I need the path
[06:51] <f_newton> I am thinking rooburger right about now...
[06:51] <f_newton> so I may be signing off for a quick trip to jack in the box
[06:51] <f_newton> ...
[06:51] <shammy> is it /usr/src/linux?
[06:51] <balistic22> f_newton is there a way i can get an ubuntu boot disk that willl recognize the cd rom drive
[06:51] <f_newton> hunger is devasting stuff
[06:52] <f_newton> balistic22, only if you can get the bios to recognize your cdrom drive and since you dont have the drive  you are going to have to boot the driver for the device from the floppy
[06:52] <f_newton> unless you dont have a floppy either
[06:52] <Doonz> whats the command to see how much ram i have?
[06:52] <f_newton> balistic22, you need to go online and find the right stuff for your laptop and get it... try ebay
[06:53] <balistic22> f_newton im gonna just put xp on it
[06:53] <f_newton> being vaio it may cost ya som bux
[06:53] <f_newton> xp is goint to take 1.25 gig just for the os alone
[06:53] <balistic22> im also thinking of buying a laptop for when i go away to college
[06:53] <balistic22> what should i do
[06:53] <f_newton> and it may not load with only 64meg of ram
[06:53] <balistic22> or buy
[06:54] <fr500> balistic22, do you have broadband access to internet?
[06:54] <balistic22> yes
[06:54] <fr500> balistic22, and the issue is?
[06:54] <fr500> what is not working i mean
[06:54] <balistic22> what issue?
[06:54] <f_newton> fr500 if you can get him to use sarge's cli browser to net install you are one patient fella
[06:54] <fr500> i thought you had a problem
[06:54] <balistic22> fr500 i do have ap roblem
[06:55] <fr500> f_newton, why not ubuntu pxe boot?
[06:55] <balistic22> Fr500 what fnewton said
[06:55] <fr500> balistic22, all you want to do is install ubuntu?
[06:55] <balistic22> yeah i guess
[06:55] <balistic22> but i dont have a cd rom drive
[06:55] <f_newton> I will be back in about 15 minutes.... burger run !
[06:55] <balistic22> k thanks f_newton
[06:55] <f_newton> yer welcome
[06:55] <fr500> balistic22, do you have another pc?
[06:55] <f_newton> lol
[06:55] <balistic22> fr500 yes i do
[06:55] <balistic22> im on it right now
[06:55] <fr500> with.......say xp
[06:56] <balistic22> yess'
[06:56] <fr500> ok
[06:56] <fr500> let me find the link for you
[06:56] <fr500> it's real easy
[06:56] <balistic22> im talking to you from a thinkpad t22 with windows xp
[06:56] <balistic22> the issue is im trying to install ubuntu on a sony vaio pcg c1xs
[06:56] <seife`> yo
[06:57] <balistic22> its a shitty little comp
[06:57] <LinuxDolt> ok...  how do i make it so also doesn't load certain sound modules?
[06:57] <balistic22> but im trying to fix it
[06:57] <LinuxDolt> *alsa
[06:58] <fr500> balistic22, it's cool
[06:58] <conciselinux> ubuntu does not detect the modem
[06:58] <fr500> give me a sec
[06:58] <balistic22> kk
[06:58] <conciselinux> d link modem
[06:58] <isai> how to interchange the functions between two keys. I have laptop and want to change the function between the CTRL and FN keys.
[06:59] <LinuxDolt> anyone know where the config files for alsa are located in this distro?
[06:59] <fr500> balistic22, this is all you need
[06:59] <fr500> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28windows%29
[06:59] <balistic22> ok let me look at it
[07:01] <Brunellus> ok stupid xchat question
[07:01] <Brunellus> how on earth do I make xchat display whatever I enter in a more legible colour than grey?
[07:02] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus: I know, the new defaults are nasty.
[07:02] <jianshi> i think it's /etc/also
[07:02] <Brunellus> LinuxDolt.  yeah, it's a pain in the arse
[07:02] <jianshi> - /etc/alsa
[07:03] <Brunellus> Do you know how to get it back to how it used to be?
[07:03] <bingobango> anyone using dual monitors?  i tried running the fglrxconfig utility, but i just end up with the same content on both screens.  :(
[07:03] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus: unfortunately, you can't, unless you can remember the exact color scheme they used
[07:03] <seife> yo
[07:03] <seife> whats the link
[07:03] <seife> of "what windows users want"
[07:03] <fr500> balistic22, you may need http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/etherboot/etherboot-5.4.0.tar.gz to boot if your bios does not support pxe
[07:04] <Brunellus> LinuxDolt:  all I want to know is what color it sets for messages I type
[07:04] <Brunellus> it isn't fg, it isn't bg
[07:04] <nickrud> Brunellus, LinuxDot, yes, I had it once where I was red :)
[07:04] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus: you can, however, change the color scheme to what you want via Settings/Preferences/Colors
[07:04] <Brunellus> yes, I've been messing around with that
[07:04] <Brunellus> but what number does it assign to your own messages?
[07:04] <seife> IS ANYONE HELPING ME, THX.
[07:05] <Brunellus> seife:  the FindPage link on the Wiki is your friend
[07:05] <Brunellus> or indeed google.  "what windows users want ubuntu"
[07:05] <nickrud> seife, what was your question?
[07:05] <seife> one guy
[07:05] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  it's either 14/30, something like that
[07:05] <Brunellus> awesome.
[07:05] <seife> posted a link that have all the programs that ubuntu uses
[07:05] <nickrud> not saying I have the aswer, just listening :)
[07:05] <seife> the title was something like what windows users want
[07:05] <Brunellus> test
[07:05] <fr500> balistic22, g2g, hope you succeed, otherwise look at netboot at the ubuntu wiki
[07:06] <Brunellus> I think I've got it
[07:06] <Brunellus> noah, darn.
[07:06] <LinuxDolt> whoever told me to check in /etc/alsa for my problem, it ain't there.
[07:06] <nickrud> eh
[07:06] <LinuxDolt> i already checked that before coming in here to ask about it :D
[07:06] <Brunellus> test
[07:06] <Brunellus> yes.
[07:07] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  glad i could help
[07:07] <Brunellus> yaaaay.
[07:08] <Brunellus> is there a manpage somewhere that tells me where all these colorbindings are?
[07:08] <cryptomatt> i have a couple of problems with my ubuntu install.. i am running hoary... whenever i do directory renames from within nautilus or deletes.. it crashes.. the percentage of this happening is as high as 25%...
[07:08] <cryptomatt> the second problem is that my desktop doesnt refresh if i copy files on to it, unless i explicitly execute a refresh
[07:08] <cryptomatt> any suggestions??
[07:08] <nickrud> Brunellus, it's in xchat's settings->preferences->interface-colors. I did that once.
[07:08] <conciselinux> when is the next ver going to get released ????
[07:09] <deFrysk> oct afaIk
[07:09] <Brunellus> nickrud:  that shows me a table of colors with numbers
[07:09] <LinuxDolt> does ANYONE have any idea on how to help me?
[07:09] <Brunellus> I was hoping I'd learn what the numbers matched up to
[07:09] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  i did it via guess and check...
[07:10] <xmen90s> hey ive done a little bit of searching but i cant seem to find the solution to my problem ... i cant connect to the internet with ubuntu 64bit ( ive tried several solutions ive found on the net, but none work )
[07:10] <xmen90s> does anyone know where i can get some resources on this?
[07:10] <nickrud> pick and test. best adivce: look at the 4 grey colors. I don't remember the exact match, but those matter
[07:10] <deFrysk> Brunellus, /j #xchat
[07:12] <Tzi> Hi =)
[07:12] <Tzi> You're right - Breezy's X is still broken :P
[07:12] <Tzi> That'll teach me
[07:13] <yo2k> hi guys...
[07:13] <ofer0> holla :P
[07:14] <yo2k> i want to setup 2nd eth, how i can do that...
[07:14] <shane> hey guys, what would be my best bet for a dvd building and burning program???
[07:14] <conciselinux> HOW MUCH DOES UBUNTU CD COSTS ???
[07:14] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  ehh...  i'm thinking i'm going right back to gentoo after this.  it's the most unstable distro available, but at least i know how it works
[07:14] <shane> conciselinux, i think they ship them for free.....
[07:14] <Brunellus> Go with what you know, I guess, LinuxDolt
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> LinuxDolt,  having sound issues?
[07:14] <Brunellus> I love ubuntu...to bits.
[07:15] <shane> yea it seems pretty nice
[07:15] <Brunellus> although I'm looking into gentoo as a project system
[07:15] <LinuxDolt> Dr_Willis: aye.  ubuntu wants to use my onboard, but i want to use my SB Live!
[07:15] <pestilence> Brunellus: don't waste your time
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> LinuxDolt,  cant disable it in the bios eh? I seem to see this kind of problem quite often mentioned.
[07:15] <Brunellus> pestilence, why
[07:15] <deFrysk> LinuxDolt, turn off your audio in bios to make it work
[07:16] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: how about blacklisting the module for your onboard soundcard
[07:16] <yo2k> i want to setup 2nd nic, how i can do that...
[07:16] <Brunellus> I mean, I like ubuntu....but I'm always interested in what else is going on.
[07:16] <conciselinux> edubuntu ????
[07:16] <pestilence> Brunellus: there's no advantage over ubuntu
[07:16] <conciselinux> can i order it ?
[07:16] <ofer0> gentoo is not for daily use.
[07:16] <LinuxDolt> pestilence: i've thought of that, but i can't seem to find the module definitions
[07:16] <deFrysk> ofer0, yes it is
[07:16] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: /etc/hotplug.d?
[07:16] <Brunellus> still interested in finding out.
[07:16] <ofer0> deFrysk, only for long-term installtions
[07:16] <LinuxDolt> ahhh.  see, i've never used hotplug before
[07:17] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: oops, /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:17] <LinuxDolt> pestilence: let's see if this works then
[07:17] <ofer0> using gentoo is a good idea only if you plan to use the same distro for 5 years
[07:17] <deFrysk> ofer0, what does that have to do with dayly use ?
[07:17] <ofer0> deFrysk, COMPILING
[07:17] <Brunellus> the long compile times turn me off....
[07:18] <Brunellus> but I'm just interested in seeing what all the fuss is about
[07:18] <pestilence> Brunellus: i'd be more inclined to experiment with a BSD than gentoo
[07:18] <LinuxDolt> get a good fast computer and give it a decent overclock.  compile times no longer mean anything :D
[07:18] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: yea right.  you must have some *really* powerful machines.
[07:18] <LinuxDolt> get a few fast computers and then use distcc
[07:18] <ofer0> well, you only need to compile these tools: gcc, kernel, package manager, and heavy apps
[07:19] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: you shouldn't need a cluster to run a desktop
[07:19] <ofer0> and i forgot - gnome
[07:19] <ofer0> why to compile x-chat for example?
[07:19] <ofer0> why to compile mplayer, firefox, etc..
[07:20] <LinuxDolt> i should be able to choose exactly what goes into my system from the very beginning too.  udev and hotplug are not mature enough for me to want to be using them yet
[07:20] <luminerd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350118
[07:20] <luminerd> Please ?
[07:20] <sam> hi
[07:20] <sam> im new to ubuntu
[07:20] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: synaptic doesn't give you that freedom?
[07:20] <ofer0> LinuxDolt, you can do all the things you do in gentoo, in ubuntu. (without those annoying use flags ofcourse)
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> heh
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> hello sam
[07:21] <ofer0> sam has quit..
[07:21] <deFrysk> so much nonsense about gentoo i havent heard in a long time
[07:21] <kestas> does ubuntu use NX memory?
[07:22] <kestas> that is, does it use the extra security provided by NX memory?
[07:22] <kestas> non-executable memory that is
[07:22] <LinuxDolt> blah.  i know how to use gentoo.  i've been lost since i first downloaded the iso for this one
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  that is somnthing i have never heard mentioned.... one way or the other.. or at all.. :P
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> lost?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> gee its very well documented.
[07:23] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: once you get to know apt, you might like it.  man apt-get
[07:23] <kestas> Dr_Willis, okay, well you know whether ubuntu uses NX memory?
[07:23] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: it's much better than emerge, imo
[07:23] <kestas> Dr_Willis, I dont get what youre saying
[07:23] <ofer0> deborphan is a great solution for un-needed dependencies
[07:23] <pestilence> kestas: he's not talking to you
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  i have NOT seen any mention of the 'nx' stuff in any linux disrto or kernel versions at all..
[07:24] <kestas> pestilence, then why did he say 'kestas' before he said it?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> kestas - it would be a kernel version feature then I guess.
[07:24] <pestilence> hahaha
[07:24] <tjbonzo> I'm trying out ubuntu - mainly because I got tired of Debian lagging (i.e. Xorg, ...), but now I'm trying to install "gcompris", but ubuntu lags Debian unstable - is there a "unstable" repository?
[07:24] <kestas> Dr_Willis, k I see
[07:24] <pestilence> ok, i gotta get outta here.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  heck the thing is barely supported under windows it seems. I enabled the feature.. and have only seen one program ever get in trouble with it. Not sure if thats good or bad.
[07:25] <Brunellus> tjbonzo:  you could try adding the debian repos
[07:25] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, yes, it is called breezy
[07:25] <Brunellus> but this is generally *not recommended*
[07:25] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, it is quite unstable right now
[07:25] <dan> I can't open openoffice, when I try to open it in terminal I see this: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:25] <Brunellus> hey Burgundavia, whats this I hear about an eyecandy-friendly new xorg in breezy?
[07:25] <Burgundavia> Brunellus, what do you mean?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> Brunellus, the exa stuff hasn't gone in yet
[07:26] <tjbonzo> Bs: so breezy over debian or take my pick?
[07:26] <Brunellus> ok.  is breezy mostly frozen?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, both breezy and sid are quite unstable
[07:26] <Burgundavia> Brunellus, sort of
[07:26] <Brunellus> h'm.
[07:26] <Burgundavia> slushy
[07:26] <Brunellus> hahahaah.  I like drinking slushies
[07:27] <Brunellus> not running them on my home box.  so I'll wait for release
[07:27] <cryptomatt> hi everyone
[07:27] <Burgundavia> there is still a lot of new stuff going in, for specific goals
[07:27] <cryptomatt> nautilus crashes in my machine often.. when i delete or rename files or such
[07:27] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  hai, fscker
[07:27] <skalpel> hai
[07:27] <skalpel> what's up?
[07:28] <PurpleMotion> ssdd, bro
[07:28] <ofer0> http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123219541.jpg
[07:28] <tjbonzo> Burgundavia: so if I go with breezy (i'll google for the repos) - is there a way to "pin" just the one package: apt-get -t unstable install gcompris
[07:28] <PurpleMotion> yourself?
[07:28] <skalpel> i am fine, thank you for asking
[07:28] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, yes
[07:28] <cryptomatt> apparently absence of FAM is the problem, when i try to install FAM through apt-get it says that i should uninstall a lot of other packages, which is mostly everything on my box.
[07:28] <Brunellus> tjbonzo:  apt-pinning works the same as apt-pinning in Debian, I think
[07:28] <skalpel> purplemotion: do you know how to use oidentd?
[07:29] <Burgundavia> ofer0, how does qemu deal with the reboot?
[07:29] <tjbonzo> Brunellus: so does "-t unstable" pull it from breezy or do I do "-t breezy" ?
[07:29] <ilba7r> is there a thread or howto for making mirror image to the home directory <like a backup>
[07:29] <ofer0> Burgundavia, great.
[07:29] <nickrud> Burgundavia, is there a new page that links to breezy's goals?
[07:29] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, breezy
[07:29] <Burgundavia> ubuntu names their distros
[07:29] <Brunellus> -t breezy
[07:29] <Burgundavia> nickrud, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals
[07:29] <tjbonzo> cool - thanks much guys...off to play some more
[07:29] <yo2k> i want to setup 2nd nic, how i can do that...
[07:29] <ofer0> Burgundavia, very very fast reboot, without all that bios shit like in vmware..
[07:29] <nickrud> hasn't changed, then
[07:30] <Burgundavia> ofer0, cool
[07:30] <Burgundavia> nickrud, there is a meeting tomorrow to recap on goals
[07:30] <skalpel> how do i change my username and pass in ubuntu?
[07:30] <nickrud> pardon me, it has :)
[07:31] <tjbonzo> skalpel: System->Admin->User and Groups
[07:31] <liran> whats an efficient way of checking in "real-time" when su has been invoked to root?
[07:31] <Burgundavia> skalpel, your password is easy, your username is a little more involved
[07:31] <skalpel> i thought it would be
[07:32] <liran> i mean, other than doing something like "cat /var/log/messages | gerp su"
[07:32] <tjbonzo> skalpel: ahhh...you want to just change your user name but keep all your files/settings?
[07:32] <skalpel> yes
[07:32] <skalpel> same user, just different name / pass
[07:33] <cryptomatt> hi everyone, nautilus repeatedly crashes on my machine.. am using hoary.. this happens after a file delete or a file rename.. not everytime but almost 25% of the time.. any clues?
[07:34] <tjbonzo> skalpel: I've never done it, but in theory it should work (YMMV), you could try it first with a bogus test user - but if you just change the name in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group that should do it
[07:35] <cajun> is anyone having trouble with gtkboard updating?
[07:35] <conciselinux> y is ubuntu good ?
[07:35] <ilba7r> is there a thread or howto for making mirror image of the home directory <like a backup>
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> conciselinux,  its a very well done, and polished desktop focused disrto.
[07:35] <tjbonzo> skalpel: the theory part is that linux really stores the userid, so if you change the userid to user name mapping, it should work
[07:36] <skalpel> how do i request a feature for breezy badger?
[07:36] <Brunellus> skalpel, getting a bit late for breezy now...
[07:37] <skalpel> well, then for a future release. it is really bugging me that ubuntu does not do that and windows does.
[07:37] <ilba7r> skapel what you want to do
[07:37] <Burgundavia> skalpel, what feature?
[07:37] <skalpel> the ability to sort audio file in the file browser by album name, etc
[07:38] <skalpel> it seems like it ought to go along well with integrated disc burning
[07:38] <Burgundavia> that would take some major integration
[07:38] <Burgundavia> best place to ask for that is upstream, with gnome
[07:38] <skalpel> it is a major feature for those of us who like music
[07:38] <skalpel> k
[07:39] <Burgundavia> skalpel, http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list
[07:39] <Burgundavia> that is the list you want to raise it on
[07:39] <skalpel> ty
[07:40] <cajun> i keep getting the following error message when i try to update: "E: gtkboard:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9"
[07:40] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about e16 in gnome?
[07:40] <cajun> how can i fix that?
[07:41] <r0d> where do you configure modprobe to see custom modules? /etc/modprobe.d/arch?
[07:41] <Burgundavia> cajun, remove gtkboard, upgrade and then reinstall it
[07:42] <glick> hehe i have 11 computers in the house now
[07:42] <deprave> anyone have a good suggestion on an html editor?
[07:42] <deprave> nothing too fancy etc.
[07:42] <glick> deprave, bluefish
[07:42] <Burgundavia> deprave, screem or bluefish
[07:42] <deprave> roger
[07:42] <deprave> thanks
[07:42] <glick> one of em is a 100mhz pentium wone
[07:42] <IcemanV9> glick: trying to start a business? :p
[07:42] <glick> IcemanV9, hehe actually i am
[07:42] <glick> but not with these computers
[07:43] <glick> i just acquired a p2 running windows 98 today with a dvd drive
[07:43] <glick> figure ill rip out the dvd, use one as a general desktop
[07:43] <glick> use it as a smoothwall firewall
[07:43] <IcemanV9> glick: repair? then, you're falling behind :P
[07:43] <yo2k> how i install squid?
[07:44] <IcemanV9> with 11 PCs
[07:44] <r0d> geez u guys ever hear of vmware lol
[07:44] <glick> IcemanV9, what do you mean repair?
[07:44] <glick> they all work
[07:45] <Burgundavia> cajun, reinstallation of gtkboard?
[07:45] <cajun> yup
[07:46] <Burgundavia> cajun, you running hoary?
[07:46] <IcemanV9> starting a business; ppl dropped off PC @ ur place for repair .. that's what i am aiming for :)
[07:46] <Zaphoid``> Anyone reccoment a good VNC viewer for windows thats OSS?
[07:46] <cajun> i think so
[07:47] <cajun> i haven't upgraded to breezy
[07:47] <IcemanV9> yo2k: try squidtaild? not familiar with what they have for ubuntu
[07:47] <Burgundavia> cajun, report a bug about it
[07:47] <yo2k> IcemanV9, how if squid2.5stable10 ? can ?
[07:47] <Burgundavia> Zaphoid``, tightvnc
[07:47] <cajun> k
[07:47] <Burgundavia> cajun, it is a universe bug, so it goes in malone
[07:48] <mebaran151> yeah, archlinux sucked
[07:48] <Zaphoid``> Burgundavia does that work with the default Ubuntu VNC server?
[07:48] <mebaran151> it doesnt work ..., though abs was a neat portage idea
[07:48] <cajun> nevermind....found the bug reporting tool
[07:49] <Burgundavia> Zaphoid``, vnc is a protocol, like tcp. Many apps speak it
[07:49] <Burgundavia> cajun, that doesn't work
[07:49] <cajun> oh
[07:49] <IcemanV9> yo2k: again, i am not familiar with squid .. i just found them in apt-cache search
[07:49] <cajun> ok...then what shall i do?
[07:49] <Zaphoid``> Thank you Burgundavia
[07:49] <dan> I can't open openoffice, when I try to open it in terminal I see this: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:49] <Burgundavia> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug/+login
[07:49] <yo2k> IcemanV9, thank's...
[07:49] <dan> how do I fix that?
[07:49] <_SD_Keo> I need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..
[07:50] <yo2k> IcemanV9, how i configure 2nd ethernet card ?
[07:50] <IcemanV9> ifconfig
[07:51] <IcemanV9> or .. system > admin > networking
[07:51] <yo2k> my pc setup as server
[07:51] <yo2k> run in text mode
[07:51] <mebaran151> how would I use the alsa drivers I get from cvs?
[07:51] <IcemanV9> ifconfig, then
[07:52] <mebaran151> my snd card is only supported by the patched cvs drivers
[07:52] <Deanodriver> hi
[07:52] <mebaran151> I'd like them to become part of the alsadrivers package
[07:52] <Deanodriver> if i use cfdisk to add a new partition to a hard drive, and set it to type 83, does that set it as ext2 or ext3?
[07:53] <Deanodriver> (bought a new hard drive, trying to partition it)
[07:53] <Deanodriver> :)
[07:53] <ofer0> Deanodriver, i think its EXT3
[07:53] <Deanodriver> ok then
[07:53] <Deanodriver> i'll try it then :)
[07:53] <Deanodriver> thanks
[07:53] <ofer0> :)
[07:54] <Deanodriver> now to edit /etc/fstab :)
[07:54] <Vubuntu> hey anyone using openbox here?
[07:55] <_SD_Keo> I need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..
[07:55] <Deanodriver> how would I set options for a user to write to it? just set umask=000 like with a far32 partition?
[07:56] <Deanodriver> *fat32
[07:57] <_SD_Keo> I need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..
[07:58] <Deanodriver> would this line be fine if i wanted non-root users to write to it?
[07:58] <deprave> in bluefish how do you view the page as it would be seen on the web page
[07:58] <Deanodriver> /dev/hdd1       /files2         ext3    umask=000       0       0
[07:58] <deprave> instead of editing it in raw html
[07:58] <Deanodriver> does bluefish do wysiwyg?
[07:59] <f_newton> no Deanodriver
[07:59] <Deanodriver> could always load it in firefox
[07:59] <f_newton> get nvu
[07:59] <Deanodriver> yeah
[07:59] <f_newton> mozilla has a wysiwyg html editor
[07:59] <Deanodriver> so have i got /etc/fstab properly set up for this new drive? :)
[08:00] <deprave> what's nvu
[08:00] <Deanodriver> wysiwyg html editor :)
[08:01] <^Cricket^> does anyone know how to rebiuld a reiserfs tree?
[08:01] <deprave> whats wysiwyg
[08:01] <Deanodriver> what you see is what you get
[08:01] <f_newton> what you see is what you get
[08:01] <HrdwrBoB> ^Cricket^: use the reiserfs repair tool...
[08:02] <_SD_Keo> What if the tool fails?
[08:02] <jay> Can someone help me convert from linux to windows?
[08:03] <HrdwrBoB> jay: that's not what we do here
[08:03] <HrdwrBoB> what's your problme
[08:03] <Deanodriver> we convert people the other way :P
[08:03] <nickrud> Burgundavia, thanks for the heads up about the meeting, I'll enjoy listening, if I can make it.
[08:03] <jay> I know however I'm asking out of the generiousity of the people here.
[08:03] <jay> generousity*
[08:03] <mejobloggs> hi, my ubuntu keeps locking up all the time. How do i go about fixing it?
[08:03] <Madpilot> hi all - was there a big netsplit about two hours ago?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> nickrud, indeed
[08:04] <f_newton> well get some salt water in a bucket, two butter knives and an electrical outlet... now take off your shoes....
[08:04] <nickrud> heh, and, damn, typing is not talking
[08:04] <HrdwrBoB> jay: what exactly is the problem
[08:04] <Deanodriver> does anyone out there have an idea of what options i should set in /etc/fstab for an ext3 partition if i want users to write to it?
[08:04] <Deanodriver> would umask=000 work?
[08:05] <Deanodriver> (which i have set for a fat32 partition in this system
[08:05] <jay> Well I deleted the windows pertition and windows was preloaded onto my computer.
[08:05] <zaphoid> When I click on system -> Administration -> Shared Folders. Ubuntu is saying that I need samba or NFS installed. Now I have samba installed (I can browse my other network shares on windows computers) Whats up with this?
[08:05] <jay> I don't have any intention of totally getting rid of linux only having multiple OS
[08:05] <Deanodriver> with dualboots, you generally have to install windows first
[08:05] <Deanodriver> iirc
[08:06] <deprave> !nvu
[08:06] <ubotu> it has been said that nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[08:06] <jay> That's kind of the problem....
[08:06] <Deanodriver> brb
[08:06] <Deanodriver> reboot
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> jay: ok, that's easy
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> ooh
[08:06] <skalpel> irssi
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> you deleted windows
[08:06] <f_newton> you can do it the other way around Deanodriver but its a lot more work
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> jay: use the disks that came with your computer to reinstall it
[08:06] <f_newton> thats my solution HrdwrBoB
[08:06] <jay> They didn't.
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> if it didn't come with disks, go back to where you bought it from
[08:07] <HrdwrBoB> if it's not a valid licensed copy of windows, buy one
[08:07] <f_newton> lol he doesnt have a windows install disk?
[08:07] <jay> Tried that, they said you had to make a recovery disc and that they couldn't do anything.
[08:07] <jay> Heh, yeah right buy a windows cd >.>
[08:07] <jay> Let me get that $200 out of my pocket
[08:07] <f_newton> well jay run ubuntu
[08:08] <f_newton> its a very good os
[08:08] <jay> Not alone when you would also like to play games heh -_-
[08:08] <f_newton> install cedega
[08:08] <skalpel> my computer came with recovery software that does not quit until linux is eradicated
[08:08] <skalpel> im lucky to be using linux as it is. sh. do not tell emachines.
[08:09] <skalpel> i boot in fear for my safety
[08:09] <f_newton> emachines lol
[08:09] <skalpel> and that of my linux partition
[08:09] <f_newton> I have a reconfiguration tool for most emachines
[08:09] <zaphoid> When I click on system -> Administration -> Shared Folders. Ubuntu is saying that I need samba or NFS installed. Now I have samba installed (I can browse my other network shares on windows computers) Whats up with this?
[08:09] <Madpilot> skalpel: what do emachines do to their boxes?
[08:09] <f_newton> hey spanglesontoast how ya doin?
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> I'm ok
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> just managed to get this other machine a mate gave me to work
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> to enter the bios
[08:10] <f_newton> glad to hear it
[08:10] <skalpel> there is a fat32 partition, rather small, that automatically repartitions and restores windows xp if anything is done to it
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> you have to switch the jumper
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> it's kinda silly
[08:10] <f_newton> ? is that a tandy?
[08:10] <skalpel> makes it very difficult to dualboot
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> tandy?
[08:10] <skalpel> and often interferes with the installation of any other os
[08:11] <Madpilot> skalpel: damn. can't you nuke that partition with one of Ubuntu's utils?
[08:11] <^Cricket^> O_o spangles......
[08:11] <^Cricket^> o/
[08:11] <spanglesontoast> hello crick
[08:11] <skalpel> madpilot: someone told me a way but as i still do not have the windows install discs i need i am holding off on it. but yes, i will soon
[08:11] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[08:11] <f_newton> skalpel you can get rid of that .... but you need to turn that bios function off first
[08:11] <spanglesontoast> this processor fan is like a hoover
[08:11] <^Cricket^> yes /me runs ubuntu
[08:11] <_SD_Keo> How many people must I kill to ask one question? -_- the fsck ---rebuild-tree tool failed with an errorcode of 6...
[08:11] <skalpel> f_newton: there is some debate as to whether it really is a bios function, soemoen told me it is just a boot partition that like to stay where it is =)
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> I'm not sure weather or not to have it as a gui server
[08:12] <f_newton> the bios is instructed to look there first and from there there is a pointer to you mbr
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> ah
[08:12] <txsky> ah
[08:13] <f_newton> that was for skalpel
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> ah
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> lol
[08:13] <cafuego> Well, adding 200Mb of some-suid root software that eats 128MB of ram on a server is um....
[08:13] <f_newton> yeah yeah yeah...
[08:13] <zaphoid> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:13] <zaphoid>  when I try to run apt-get install samba
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[08:13] <ajmitch> _SD_Keo: the manpage says that an errorcode of 6 means fixable errors left uncorrected..
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> it's just I could use insecure webmin
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> or use vnc
[08:13] <f_newton> some kid is out in the parking lot doing donuts
[08:13] <cafuego> spanglesontoast: vnc through ssh
[08:13] <f_newton> lol idiot
[08:13] <f_newton> daddy must buy his tires
[08:13] <skalpel> f_newton: well someone told me there is a way to flash the bios and remove it but i do not even have a disk drive to perform that function
[08:13] <mebaran151> what version of alsa is in Breezy and which is in Hoary
[08:13] <glick> hey how do i disable those crappy awefull "plunk" sounds whenever i click on something
[08:14] <ajmitch> _SD_Keo: your question is at once rather vague & specific :)
[08:14] <spanglesontoast> lol
[08:14] <mebaran151> I know the one in Hoary works and the one Breezy doesnt
[08:14] <glick> as well as the gnome startup sounds
[08:14] <f_newton> skalpel dont believe that one
[08:14] <f_newton> you are running a custom bios
[08:14] <spanglesontoast> what I love about ubuntu
[08:14] <mebaran151> I dont like the color brown
[08:14] <skalpel> how do you go about removing software from the bios?
[08:14] <spanglesontoast> is theres lots of packages
[08:14] <Deanodriver> hi
[08:14] <Burgundavia> _SD_Keo, I hate to say this, but I don;t think anyone here has the answer. You might want to google it
[08:14] <mebaran151> why cant ubuntu have blue colored themes
[08:14] <skalpel> f_newton: that is what i thought originally
[08:14] <f_newton> its not software
[08:14] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, guis on a server is complete insanity
[08:14] <HrdwrBoB> f_newton: yeah even when I was into cars heavily, I didn't do burnouts, $250 a tyre gets old very quickly
[08:14] <mebaran151> what is _SD_Keo's question
[08:14] <Deanodriver> not getting this to mount :|
[08:14] <f_newton> you have to turn that function off
[08:14] <f_newton> so that bios wont perform that operation
[08:14] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: it's a reiserfs issue
[08:14] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, the default gnoem ones are provided
[08:14] <skalpel> f_newton: how do i do that?
[08:15] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, that aren't ugly......
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> it's just a 466mhz
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> that's all
[08:15] <f_newton> I dont know I would have to look at that machine
[08:15] <f_newton> good enough spanglesontoast
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> and the graphics card can actually handle x
[08:15] <mebaran151> Gnome is relaly quite nice when you them it well
[08:15] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident ?
[08:15] <f_newton> ubuntu would be the way to go
[08:15] <mebaran151> but I really wish didnt overload all the time
[08:15] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, ubuntu is going to be brown for the foreseeable future
[08:15] <Deanodriver> "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdd1."
[08:15] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, I know
[08:15] <mebaran151> Fedora has the color scheme down pat
[08:15] <mebaran151> too bad it doesnt work
[08:16] <f_newton> well I can change that for myself Burgundavia
[08:16] <spanglesontoast> newton
[08:16] <Burgundavia> f_newton, say again?
[08:16] <spanglesontoast> it could end up somewhere else if it's brown
[08:16] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, say again?
[08:16] <f_newton> the earth tones
[08:16] <f_newton> I can change those myself
[08:16] <f_newton> the way it comes is fine with me
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> oh
[08:17] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: _SD_Keo's issue was from running fsck.reiserfs, I gave him an answer just before you said that noone knew
[08:17] <mebaran151> how do I use ALSA cvs drivers
[08:17] <Deanodriver> anyone?
[08:17] <Burgundavia> f_newton, ah, ok. I didn't follow where you were coming from
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> that's why the live doesn't work
[08:17] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, ah, ok
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> it's only got 64mb
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> lol
[08:17] <ajmitch> specifically, using the --fix-fixable flag to fsck
[08:17] <f_newton> I like the boot splash screen that it shows ya not the one ya get
[08:17] <f_newton> you know the nice young ladies looking up with the low cut dresses?
[08:17] <_SD_Keo> I had used the fixable flag, but there are serious errors that needed to be rebuilded..
[08:18] <_SD_Keo> **rebuilt
[08:18] <f_newton> that is one sweet bootsplash screen
[08:18] <f_newton>  but its not the one ya get
[08:18] <ajmitch> _SD_Keo: sorry, I'm just going from what the manpage tells me, if it cannot fix them, then I don't know
[08:18] <glick> is there anyway in the gnome file browser and can get a forward and back button
[08:18] <glick> ?
[08:18] <glick> and also so it doesnt open up a new window at the default size?
[08:19] <glick> just one window, whatever size i make it and forward and backward buttons would be nice
[08:19] <shane_> someones picky
[08:19] <f_newton> 64 meg hmmm well you can probably play pong with it
[08:19] <Burgundavia> glick, change to browser mode
[08:19] <glick> Burgundavia, how do i do that>?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> glick, edit--->prefs
[08:20] <glick> Burgundavia, tjamls
[08:20] <glick> thanks
[08:20] <Burgundavia> glick, 2nd tab, tick "open in browser windows"
[08:20] <shane_> does anyone know of a good dvd maker/copyer for ubuntu????
[08:20] <zaphoid> Is there a GUI configuration tool for Samba in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <HrdwrBoB> shane_: yes, any
[08:20] <zaphoid> shane_ truthfully. I use dvd shrink through WINE :) It's great.
[08:21] <zaphoid> I would love to see dvdshrink ported over to linux.
[08:21] <Burgundavia> zaphoid, install samba and then go to system-->admin-->shares
[08:21] <shane_> HrdwrBoB, all the programs i use only have data dvd
[08:21] <skalpel> is there a replacement cdplayer for ubuntu?
[08:21] <shane_> and i want to put all my aquateen volume 3's i have on avi on to dvd....any ideas?
[08:22] <Madpilot> skalpel: you've noticed that the default one is awful too, right? ;)
[08:22] <zaphoid> Burgundavia, I did that. And set up a share. But when I try to log into that share through windows. It asks me for a username and password. Which I never set up, and neither my linux login or windows login is correct.
[08:22] <skalpel> madpilot: not awful, but not great =)
[08:22] <xmen90s> ive been trying to get the network working on this ubuntu 64bit for like 3 days now ... and no dice
[08:23] <xmen90s> ive googled, searched the forums, etc
[08:23] <glick> browser mode is much better
[08:23] <xmen90s> cant find anything that works for me
[08:23] <Burgundavia> zaphoid, hmm
[08:23] <glick> and now that those crappy sounds are gone
[08:23] <skalpel> madpilot: did you find one that is better?
[08:23] <glick> and i got my nvidia working
[08:23] <glick> its a nice system
[08:23] <Madpilot> skalpel: does yours hang when it hits the end of a CD? and no, I haven't found better. haven't looked, really
[08:23] <xmen90s> does anyone think they could help me, or point me to where i could get some help?
[08:23] <shane_> i cant get my radion 9550 to work :-(
[08:24] <skalpel> madpilot: i have yet to listen to acd all the wya through. i hope it does not hang though
[08:24] <skalpel> goodnight #ubuntu
[08:24] <skalpel> rock, rock on.
[08:24] <Madpilot> skalpel: it probably will... i always seem to be forcekilling mine. see you later
[08:24] <xmen90s> nobody ... ?
[08:24] <Madpilot> xmen90s: checked the wiki?
[08:24] <xmen90s> yeah
[08:25] <xmen90s> i found one thing that seemed to be perfect ... but it didn't work :(
[08:25] <xmen90s> basically, when i install ubuntu, the dhcp stuff doesn't work
[08:25] <xmen90s> if i have the protocol to that, and i try to load a web page it automatically says cant connect
[08:26] <xmen90s> i cant ping other computers on the network
[08:26] <xmen90s> i cant do anything
[08:26] <xmen90s> but ...
[08:26] <spanglesontoast> how good is a ubuntu web server?
[08:26] <xmen90s> if i try to statically assign ip
[08:26] <xmen90s> then i try to load web page ... it sits for like a min, then times out
[08:26] <xmen90s> and
[08:26] <xmen90s> i can ping other computers on the network
[08:26] <xmen90s> i can even ping an ip from outside the network
[08:26] <xmen90s> but cant load pages or anything
[08:27] <xmen90s> its uber weird
[08:27] <zaphoid> xmen90s, check your DNS settings
[08:27] <xmen90s> i checked my router and it gave me some dns addresses
[08:27] <xmen90s> i added those and it didn't work
[08:27] <xmen90s> then
[08:27] <xmen90s> i tried to add the ip of my router instead
[08:27] <glick> how do you remove a software package that was installed via package?
[08:27] <xmen90s> and that didn't wokk either
[08:28] <zaphoid> What is your router's IP addy? And your DNS server?
[08:28] <zaphoid> Also, are you the only computer on this network?
[08:28] <xmen90s> no, there are 4 other computers on the network
[08:28] <xmen90s> my routers ip is 192.168.2.1
[08:29] <xmen90s> the primary and secondary dns's im getting from my router status page, i guess just what the isp sent
[08:29] <zaphoid> Make sure your IP does not conflict with others on the network. Then go in and set your IP to 192.168.2.2  MASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY 192.168.2.1 DNS *Whatever your DNS server is*
[08:30] <balistic22> hey can someone help me out with a net boot i am attempting
[08:30] <balistic22> net boot install for ubuntu
[08:30] <zaphoid> Able to ping other boxes, but not load a webpage definatly sounds like a DNS error to me.
[08:31] <balistic22> hey can someone help me out with a net boot i am attempting to install ubuntu using net boot
[08:31] <xmen90s> well the dhcp assigns ips from 192.168.2.100 to .109
[08:31] <zaphoid> Burgundavia, Any ideas on this Samba problem?
[08:31] <wildcowboy> hi
[08:31] <wildcowboy> anybody
[08:31] <balistic22> anyone not busy
[08:31] <xmen90s> thanks zaphoid for listening
[08:31] <balistic22> id appreciate some help
[08:31] <xmen90s> ill try some more dns stuff :)
[08:31] <wildcowboy> i'm not balistic22
[08:31] <wildcowboy> on what?
[08:32] <zaphoid> xmen90s,  Whats your netmask that is given with you use DHCP?
[08:32] <zaphoid> when*
[08:32] <balistic22> hey wildcowboy im doing a netboot and i pretty much have everything set on my xp laptop
[08:32] <xmen90s> zaphoid : Subnet Mask:  255.255.255.0
[08:32] <zaphoid> If it's 255.255.255.0 (Standard for most routers) giving yourself an ip of 192.168.2.2 should be fine.
[08:32] <xmen90s> so just a standard one
[08:32] <balistic22> i just need to know how to run the pxe
[08:33] <balistic22> on the other comp
[08:33] <xmen90s> okie dokie, ill be around, thanks
[08:33] <zaphoid> Yea, just use 192.168.1.2 NETMASK 255.255.255.0 GATEWAY 192.168.2.1 DNS *Your DNS server* and it should work.
[08:33] <zaphoid> np
[08:33] <wildcowboy> y don't you just do it the normal way instead of netboot
[08:33] <wildcowboy> i take it you're a newbie, right
[08:33] <balistic22> yeah i guess
[08:34] <wildcowboy> did you download the discs?
[08:34] <balistic22> but my laptop doesnt have a cd rom and i tried everything and netboot install is the only thing that i havent tried
[08:34] <zaphoid> Ok, going to re-ask my question. I installed samba (Default apt-get install samba style) and set up a share. When I try to log into that share from windows it is asking for a username and password. Any ideas?
[08:34] <balistic22> i have the cd
[08:34] <wildcowboy> just do it from the cd
[08:34] <wildcowboy> much easier
[08:34] <HrdwrBoB> zaphoid: yes, you need to use smbpasswd to set users passwords for samba
[08:34] <wildcowboy> are you familiar with linux at all?
[08:34] <balistic22> wildcowboy i dont have a cd driver.. only an external one and my other lap top wont load from it
[08:34] <traveller> what do i need to install in order to watch an encrypted dvd? i can't seem to find libdvdcss
[08:34] <zaphoid> Thanks HrdwrBoB
[08:34] <balistic22> wildcowboy yes i am
[08:35] <xmen90s> zaphoid : did the same thing with fedora ... you just have to set a windows username and link it to your linux username then the password for your linux account will work
[08:35] <ofer0> http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123223576.jpg
[08:35] <wildcowboy> interesting
[08:35] <balistic22> wildcowboy ive used ubuntu before i know how it works.. trust me i installed a whole debian system with out 2 floppys
[08:35] <wildcowboy> did you try the help page?
[08:35] <balistic22> yeah but it doesnt explain the pxe
[08:35] <Burgundavia> zaphoid, sorry no
[08:35] <wildcowboy> feasible
[08:35] <xmen90s> woops
[08:35] <xmen90s> heh
[08:35] <xmen90s> :)
[08:35] <balistic22> yup
[08:36] <wildcowboy> do you know the path to find your ip address?
[08:36] <wildcowboy> and all of that stuff?
[08:37] <zaphoid> zaphoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo smbpasswd
[08:37] <zaphoid> Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it
[08:37] <balistic22> wat do yo umea
[08:37] <wildcowboy> do you know how to locate that info?
[08:37] <xmen90s> hmmm
[08:37] <xmen90s> is smbd and nmbd running?
[08:37] <zaphoid> Yea =/
[08:37] <balistic22> no i dont
[08:37] <PurpleMotion> so now ive been reduced to sitting byt he computer waiting for a pm so i can go pick mouse up from jail
[08:37] <luminerd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350118
[08:37] <wildcowboy> okay, going to check something, I will get back to you
[08:37] <luminerd> Please ?
[08:37] <balistic22> k
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> lumi
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> the mouse works when you use the default ubuntu installation, right?
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> luminerd
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, yea
[08:41] <balistic22> hmm..
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> the mouse works when you use the default ubuntu installation, right?
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, sry
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, no
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, no no, can't get it working at all
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> ah, so it just doesnt work at all
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, not with Ubuntu...works with no problems on Debian, though on Debian nothing else worked
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, right
[08:41] <HrdwrBoB> argh
[08:42] <zaphoid> Ahh, found the problem. There is a bug in the Ubuntu shared folders program. It will let the user add an invalid entry by not specifying a name for the samba share. Which in turn confuses the smb server and will not let you load /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:42] <PurpleMotion> im thinking
[08:42] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: full dmesg output?
[08:42] <PurpleMotion> im good at thinking
[08:42] <glick> i dont like that that populatiry contest that is installed by default
[08:42] <zaphoid> Where do I report that? Never really reported a bug before =P
[08:42] <glick> how do i disable that>?
[08:42] <glick> i tried to uninstall it but it depends on the base
[08:42] <HrdwrBoB> glick: you can remove the base package - it's simple a meta package
[08:42] <LinuxDolt> BLARGH!  blacklisting got rid of one.  but now i can't seem to get rid of the oss driver...
[08:43] <balistic22> wildcowboy are you there?
[08:43] <glick> HrdwrBoB, it says it will also remove the ubuntu-base
[08:43] <HrdwrBoB> glick: yeah
[08:43] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I still haven't been able to get that
[08:43] <glick> HrdwrBoB, wont that uninstall the entire base?
[08:43] <PurpleMotion> luminerd:  look in msg
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  It is safe to remove this package if some of the base system packages are not
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep it installed, because it is
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  used to carry out certain upgrade transitions (such as adding new packages to
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  the system).
[08:44] <LinuxDolt> ok... that's it.  i'm just going to turn the thing off from bios.  the windows users will just have to suffer
[08:45] <balistic22> does anyone know how to do a netboot install for ubuntu
[08:45] <Madpilot> !info ubuntu-base
[08:45] <ubotu> ubuntu-base: (The Ubuntu base system), section base, is optional. Version: 0.43 (hoary), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[08:46] <Doonz> hey guys
[08:46] <Madpilot> balistic22: you've seen this? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[08:46] <balistic22> YEs madpilot
[08:46] <balistic22> I just dont knnow how to set up the pxe
[08:46] <balistic22> i dunno how the other computer recognizes the netboot
[08:46] <glick> can i delete gnome games without havint to remove the base system?
[08:46] <balistic22> is there a floppy i have to make
[08:46] <Doonz> ubuntu run slow on my box. its an amdxp 3000 with 512 ram on a 7200rpm drive with a gf2 as the vid card. what should i upgrade to improve the performance
[08:46] <Madpilot> balistic22: never done a netboot myself, but I know the page exists.
[08:47] <zaphoid> Doonz, thats more than enough hardware to power Ubuntu. You might have a configuration error. What is it "Slow" at?
[08:47] <f_newton> balistic22, you still trying?
[08:47] <balistic22> f_newton yeah
[08:47] <Doonz> switching various programs seems to lag quite a bit
[08:47] <balistic22> f_newton im addictied
[08:48] <zaphoid> Like, switching from say, Firefox to E-Mail?
[08:48] <glick> addicted to what?
[08:48] <Doonz> yeah
[08:48] <balistic22> f_newton help mee pleapseee
[08:48] <Doonz> or just even switching tabs in firefox it get sdelayed
[08:48] <balistic22> f_newton did you gety our burger lol
[08:48] <f_newton> oh yea
[08:48] <f_newton> it was good too
[08:48] <airox> Hi. Anybody got a link to or knows how to preload a copy of firefox like firefox preloader does for Windows ?
[08:49] <balistic22> f_newton sweet
[08:49] <navyn> how can  i remove e17 and get e16 instead?
[08:49] <Doonz> is there a command i can type in terminal that will show how much system resources im using and mebbe you could look at them and mebbe that would help you out
[08:49] <airox> Doonz: top ?
[08:49] <zaphoid> Is this a default ubuntu install? It might be running the standard VGA x driver instead of the NVidia driver. Not sure on that. Sounds to me like it's a problem with your display driver.. That system should be more than enough to power stuff like say, firefox tabs.
[08:49] <zaphoid> Doonz, ps -aux |more
[08:49] <f_newton> balistic22, honestly if I were u I would learn how to use the cli web browser and net install the xserver for sarge
[08:50] <balistic22> f_newton im trying to do a netboot but i dont know if im suppose to make a floppy
[08:50] <drcode> hi all
[08:50] <f_newton> once you got a gui running you would feel a lot better
[08:50] <xmen90s> ok so new news .... in network tools i switched from looking at the lo to the eth0 and it says that it is INACTIVE despite the fact that in the network settings i have eth0 activated!
[08:50] <f_newton> lol
[08:50] <drcode> in vncserver how I can do full screen
[08:50] <drcode> when I type vncserver?
[08:50] <balistic22> f_newton im getting stressed out..
[08:50] <f_newton> well dont
[08:50] <balistic22> f_newton can you just give me instructions on what to do
[08:51] <f_newton> take a few deep breaths
[08:51] <balistic22> *breaths*
[08:51] <abhayks> breaths-2
[08:51] <f_newton> well since this is the beginning of day four on ubuntu for me I will try...
[08:51] <Madpilot> apt-get deep_breath
[08:51] <xmen90s> well you could type "vncserver -geometry 1024x768" if you so desired when starting the server
[08:51] <drcode> than x
[08:51] <balistic22> god bless you f_newton
[08:51] <drcode> IU will try it
[08:51] <f_newton> apt-get multiple_deepbreaths
[08:51] <xmen90s> not a problem
[08:52] <balistic22> lollllllll
[08:52] <f_newton> He does yes balistic22
[08:52] <balistic22> lol
[08:52] <balistic22> f_newton so do we go wtih the netboot install?
[08:52] <f_newton> I am working outside a closed wifi cafe in dallas tx balistic22 ... its hotter n hades out here right now
[08:52] <f_newton> ...
[08:52] <balistic22> lollll wow
[08:53] <f_newton> let me see what I can find
[08:53] <balistic22> f_newton how old are you
[08:53] <xmen90s> anyone... :\
[08:53] <f_newton> lets just say Im almost able to collect social security unless bush raises the age limit
[08:53] <balistic22> LOL
[08:53] <balistic22> you know how old i am
[08:53] <drcode> If I did login into gnome in remote server
[08:53] <balistic22> 18 =/
[08:53] <glick> f_newton, he prollu will
[08:53] <balistic22> and im into linux
[08:53] <drcode> can I do logoff from remote client?
[08:54] <f_newton> yeah rich buttholes always try to keep from paying the poor back what they stole from em
[08:54] <drcode> I can't see the remote server with vncviewer bcz its local
[08:54] <f_newton> different subject though
[08:54] <Nameeater> it seems ubuntu has my speakers around the wrong way, and im 99% sure they are plugged in the right way, is there any software way to switch them around?
[08:54] <f_newton> balistic22, I will go check on something about your problem... hang on
[08:54] <drcode> Can I chose in vncserver to load xfce and not gnome?
[08:54] <balistic22> You got it
[08:55] <xmen90s> wait did you ask if you can log off remotely with vnc?
[08:55] <xmen90s> do you mean from the top bar?
[08:55] <drcode> k
[08:55] <drcode> I did login local when I was at work
[08:55] <drcode> but when I try vncviewer , I Can't get connect
[08:55] <drcode> can I do remote shutdown
[08:56] <drcode> from console?
[08:56] <f_newton> InstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto
[08:56] <xmen90s> reboot -n
[08:56] <glick> im so happy i finally got a smoothwall machine
[08:56] <f_newton> balistic22, see InstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto
[08:56] <drcode> reboot -n will do to all linux?
[08:56] <drcode> or onley to xserver?
[08:56] <xmen90s> oh, i meant in terminal
[08:56] <balistic22> f_newton so this external cd rom drive is useless
[08:56] <Madpilot> drcode: do "man reboot" and see
[08:56] <xmen90s> like when i vnc server i just open up a terminal and do that
[08:56] <drcode> thanx
[08:57] <Nameeater> what about shutdown? :|
[08:57] <f_newton> no its not useless but it wont help you boot up an os if its not in the bios boot tree
[08:57] <Madpilot> drcode: or "reboot --help" for a shorter blurb
[08:57] <drcode> k
[08:57] <drcode> and can I tell vncserver to load xfce and not gnome?
[08:57] <zaphoid> Mem:    516500k total, (When I run top)..... I have a gig of ram =/
[08:57] <xmen90s> so can anyone help me with my not being able to connect to the internet program again ... ?
[08:57] <f_newton> balistic22, Did you see the web site addy i POSTED?
[08:57] <balistic22> f_newton i have the sarge installed already
[08:58] <balistic22> YES I DID
[08:58] <balistic22> I DID THAT
[08:58] <balistic22> all of it
[08:58] <balistic22> i have debian
[08:58] <xmen90s> drcode : in .vnc/startup it has what you need
[08:58] <glick> is anyone here from philadelphia?
[08:58] <drcode> thanx
[08:58] <balistic22> glick this aint a dating chatroom
[08:58] <drcode> I will read about it
[08:58] <f_newton> balistic22, that is supposedly the net install for ubuntu
[08:58] <drcode> thanx for the help
[08:58] <f_newton> not deb
[08:58] <balistic22> no its not
[08:58] <glick> balistic22, damn i was really hoping to find a hot date in this ubuntu linux channel
[08:59] <Madpilot> drcode: np. www.linuxcommands.org is a good resource
[09:01] <balistic22> glick lol
[09:01] <drcode> I Cant find /.vnc/startup
[09:01] <LinuxDolt> it didn't work...
[09:01] <balistic22> f_newton thats teh debian install
[09:01] <xmen90s> thats because its hidden, show all hidden files
[09:01] <ofer0> drcode, i think he ment to /home/username/.vnc/startup
[09:01] <f_newton> ok i see
[09:01] <xmen90s> erm, well i figured that was given ...
[09:01] <balistic22> f_newton what im thinking is find a floppy that allows me to boot from usb
[09:01] <xmen90s> sorry
[09:01] <kestas> does anyone know if ubuntu will use hardware NX if it's available?
[09:01] <LinuxDolt> i disabled onboard in the bios, and i STILL have an extra sound device.  how can i disable OSS?
[09:01] <drcode> I cneck there also
[09:02] <f_newton> balistic you could find a win98 boot floppy and add your dvdr driver to it....
[09:02] <f_newton> but you are also going to have to have a usb driver and all that is going to be too big for a floppy] 
[09:03] <balistic22> f_newton so what do i do
[09:03] <f_newton> multiple floppies would work but lordy that is an awful lot of trouble
[09:03] <xmen90s> *sigh&
[09:03] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, thank you so much!
[09:03] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, ya get em goin eh?
[09:03] <f_newton> was it his config?
[09:04] <luminerd> f_newton, well, I'm still not sure what it was
[09:04] <PurpleMotion> it was black magic
[09:04] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about e16 in Gnome?
[09:04] <PurpleMotion> fear meh voodoo
[09:04] <f_newton> lol yeah right
[09:04] <balistic22> f_newton is a netboot so bad
[09:05] <luminerd> he has me unplug mouse, turn off machine, unplug machine, plug in mouse, plug in machine, boot up machine and it worked OO!!!
[09:05] <benplaut> !enlightenment
[09:05] <ubotu> benplaut: Are you smoking crack?
[09:05] <f_newton> balistic22, can you use a cli web browser on your sarge?
[09:05] <benplaut> no, i'm not
[09:05] <balistic22> f_newton how can i find out
[09:05] <f_newton> apt-get install lynx
[09:06] <balistic22> on the ocmmand line
[09:06] <glick> thats fantastic Suse Pro will be a truely open community distro
[09:06] <glick> thats awesome
[09:06] <f_newton> then once its finished type lynx at the prompt
[09:07] <f_newton> yes balistic22
[09:07] <balistic22> OK
[09:07] <balistic22> LEts do this
[09:07] <f_newton> thats all you have is command line remember?
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: ... you didn't start the machine with the mouse plugged in?
[09:07] <balistic22> yup
[09:07] <balistic22> cuz it says xwindows has an error
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: PS/2 is a hotplug protocol, but it's not supported by a lot of hardware
[09:07] <PurpleMotion> HrdwrBoB:  yeah, i mapped him to /dev/psaux and rebooted him
[09:07] <balistic22> i need a network connection right
[09:08] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, do you know the deb syntax for installing the sarge gui?
[09:08] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I didn't hotplug.
[09:08] <PurpleMotion> sarge gui???
[09:08] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I know you can't hotplug a ps/2
[09:08] <f_newton> xllr6-xorg or something?
[09:08] <luminerd> now I do anyway
[09:08] <luminerd> heh
[09:08] <f_newton> yeah an xserver\
[09:08] <PurpleMotion> oh i have no idea
[09:08] <f_newton> i cant remember
[09:08] <f_newton> argh
[09:08] <PurpleMotion> add the sarge repository to your sources.list, update, then apt-get install -testing whatever
[09:08] <PurpleMotion> *shrug*
[09:08] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, balistic22 is running cli version of sarge and he wants a gui
[09:09] <PurpleMotion> apt-get install x-window-system
[09:09] <sward> is there any listing of apt repositories that work well with ubuntu hoary?
[09:09] <PurpleMotion> i think
[09:09] <f_newton> ok ... balistic did you read that?
[09:10] <f_newton> are you still here?
[09:10] <balistic22> yes
[09:10] <balistic22> im here
[09:10] <benplaut> sward: what ubotu just told you are the safe ones
[09:10] <PurpleMotion> lemme know what that does for ya
[09:10] <balistic22> apt-get install x-window-system
[09:10] <PurpleMotion> actually
[09:10] <balistic22> is that what i should do
[09:10] <balistic22> or should i do the browser
[09:10] <PurpleMotion> apt-get install x-window<then hit TAB twice and get a lit>
[09:10] <PurpleMotion> and tell me what the sane options are
[09:10] <sward> benplaut: thanks =)
[09:11] <f_newton> try this .... in the command line as root now....  type apt-get install x-window-system
[09:11] <benplaut> 'welcome :)
[09:11] <Chaotic_Reality> hi all.  just installed ubuntu - i'm running it on a laptop and have an external monitor i would like to use along side.  i did a bit of research and found that this can be done using fireglcontrol - an ati driver i think?  is this possible with an ati radeon 9600?
[09:11] <f_newton> balistic22, do what PurpleMotion said
[09:11] <PurpleMotion> yes it is as long as there is a vga port ont he laptop
[09:11] <Chaotic_Reality> yeah there is
[09:12] <PurpleMotion> then it will work
[09:12] <balistic22> ok give me a sec
[09:12] <Chaotic_Reality> what do i need to do exactly PurpleMotion?  by default if i plug it in it just mimics the main screen, doesn't 'extend' itself from the main one per se.
[09:13] <f_newton> you want to display two different signals from ON
[09:13] <f_newton> ???
[09:13] <PurpleMotion> there are settings in the fireglcontrol
[09:13] <Chaotic_Reality> is that something i can grab via apt-get?
[09:14] <PurpleMotion> do you have the firegl xorg driver installed?
[09:14] <Chaotic_Reality> i don't think so. i'm running off the default install of the cd at the moment...just got it set up
[09:14] <PurpleMotion> okay
[09:14] <PurpleMotion> this is an involved process
[09:14] <PurpleMotion> and if you can wait about ten minutes while i get luminerd squared away, I can get you right through it
[09:14] <Chaotic_Reality> sure
[09:14] <PurpleMotion> cool
[09:14] <Chaotic_Reality> i'll wait. thank you
[09:15] <Deanodriver> hi
[09:15] <Deanodriver> still setting up my new hdd
[09:16] <Deanodriver> how do i set it so that non-root users can write to it? :)
[09:16] <Deanodriver> in /etc/fstab
[09:16] <BeatYou> any feedback on this design? i know its unrelated to ubuntu - http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm
[09:17] <Positron> is there a possibility to install a wifi card on ubuntu64 ?
[09:17] <desrt> do something less awful with the rollover on the top row of buttons
[09:17] <Positron> (which needs ndiswrapper)
[09:18] <BeatYou> desrt explain
[09:18] <desrt> wow.  you're being a good boy with CSS
[09:18] <desrt> BeatYou; the graphical effect that occurs with the text jumping up is lame
[09:18] <desrt> it moves too far
[09:18] <BeatYou> ahh
[09:18] <balistic22> wait was the command
[09:18] <BeatYou> i can see that
[09:18] <desrt> are you doing css background image offset rollovers?
[09:18] <BeatYou> yes sir
[09:18] <desrt> l33t :)
[09:19] <BeatYou> http://dev.clsafety.com/images/main_nav.png
[09:19] <desrt> heh.
[09:19] <BeatYou> i <3 css
[09:19] <desrt> one image too.  interesting
[09:19] <desrt> i always used separate images
[09:19] <desrt> but one is totally valid
[09:19] <BeatYou> indeed
[09:19] <Positron> someone installed ubuntu64 and ndiswrapper ?
[09:19] <desrt> probably more economical, even
[09:19] <BeatYou> desrt, less file size perhabs, dont have to worry about preloading a bunch of images
[09:19] <desrt> i'm sure filesize(onebigimage) < filesize(1) + filesize(2) .. + filesize(n
[09:20] <airox> Anybody got an idea on how to make firefox startup faster ?
[09:20] <desrt> BeatYou; well.. the general concept behind the offset method is to auto-preload without using evil hacks
[09:20] <BeatYou> yea
[09:20] <airox> Like konqueror :)
[09:20] <desrt> BeatYou; so you get preload for free no matter what
[09:20] <BeatYou> css is the future!!!
[09:20] <BeatYou> heh
[09:20] <desrt> :)
[09:20] <desrt> css is the present
[09:20] <desrt> IE is the past
[09:20] <xav> hi.. does someone know when xkb will be repaired in breezy ??
[09:20] <desrt> xav; daniel does :)
[09:21] <BeatYou> well... considering 95% (estimate heh) of sites now are running with a table layout design... css is not the present
[09:21] <desrt> xav; or maybe infinity
[09:21] <BeatYou> cause no one knows about it
[09:21] <desrt> xav; but i don't recommend asking... just wait :)
[09:21] <xav> desrt: who's daniel ?
[09:21] <Madpilot> BeatYou: looks good, but the "Go" button is a bit odd looking, at least in Opera 8.02 in Hoary
[09:21] <desrt> one of the guys who hacks X on ubuntu
[09:21] <airox> BeatYou: or people don't use it (yet) because of all the quirks ;)
[09:21] <BeatYou> Madeye, yup, Opera doens't know how to render png24 yet :[
[09:21] <xav> desrt: is he french or something ?
[09:21] <desrt> no.  austrilian
[09:21] <desrt> *a
[09:21] <BeatYou> airox: there are no quirks on the fault of css itself... its the browsers that have the quirks
[09:22] <Madpilot> BeatYou: png24? Opera's support for regular png is pretty good
[09:22] <xav> desrt: okay thanks, still a matter of time :)
[09:22] <desrt> xav; why'd you ask if he was french? :)
[09:22] <BeatYou> Madeye: yes it is, but not the alpha transparancy of png's
[09:22] <xav> desrt: because i am :)
[09:22] <BeatYou> im gong to switch that to a gif soon
[09:22] <Madeye> BeatYou, focus! it's Madpilot who's asking not madeye, however we are both MAD so be careful..!!!
[09:23] <Madpilot> BeatYou: I've done transparent pngs that work fine in Opera. see here: www.warbard.ca/blur  - the Blur logo is all png w/ trans.
[09:23] <Madeye> :-)
[09:23] <Madpilot> Madeye: not the first time that's happened... ;)
[09:23] <desrt> xav; ah.
[09:23] <BeatYou> interesting... with alppha transparancy Madpilot
[09:23] <BeatYou> ?
[09:23] <airox> BeatYou: Yep, so why use CSS now ? :)
[09:24] <xav> desrt: thought maybe i can push him toward repairing xkb :)... but if he's austrian
[09:24] <BeatYou> airox: because people have to be trailblazers, trendsetters if you will
[09:24] <Madpilot> BeatYou: not really, just the GIMP's basic transparency
[09:24] <airox> BeatYou: ;)
[09:24] <desrt> xav; i doubt he'd consider nationality to be an important influencer
[09:24] <Madpilot> airox: because CSS is far, far more elegant that table hacks!
[09:24] <BeatYou> airox: table layouts are truly junk, they were first made to get around browsers lack of css, now that browsers support css, WHY use tables?
[09:25] <BeatYou> take a look at my code... compare it to a table layout code... see a file size differnece
[09:25] <Madpilot> and the layout parts of CSS are one of the better supported parts, even by IE. Unless you're using "fixed" of course...
[09:25] <xav> desrt: no but i can express myself more elegantly and be more persuasive in french :)
[09:25] <BeatYou> ESPN switched to a css design and saves over 7TB/year in bandwidth
[09:25] <desrt> heh
[09:25] <desrt> maybe he speaks it :)
[09:25] <airox> Yeah, CSS rocks. But it sucks that browsers still haven't fixed some issues. :(
[09:25] <xav> desrt: because this is the only thing broken which really annoys me
[09:26] <Madpilot> BeatYou: when I swapped my main site over to pure CSS, one page shrank by 30%+
[09:26] <xav> desrt: no shift, no functions keys, no special keys
[09:26] <BeatYou> Madpilot I wouldnt doubt that for a second
[09:26] <Madpilot> airox: most of them have, it's just IE that really sucks
[09:26] <xav> desrt: at least the layout is still good
[09:26] <Madpilot> !lart IE6
[09:26] <Madpilot> !good bot
[09:26] <ubotu> :)
[09:26] <LinuxDolt> ahhh!  much nicer having blue_planet back on my desktop background again...  i really should go tweak fstab a little more, my ntfs volumes are being mounted rw...
[09:26] <BeatYou> airox: dont worry, IE is finally listening to the internet community and supporting w3c stands, IE7 has full css2 and hopefuly css3 support
[09:27] <luminerd> what's the command to start my dhcp?
[09:27] <BeatYou> css3 will be soooo sweet by the way
[09:27] <airox> BeatYou: IE 7 will not pass the acid test though :(
[09:28] <BeatYou> airox: the IE7 development blog mentioned it before i think
[09:28] <holysmokes> luminerd: dhclient3 iface
[09:28] <f_newton> look guys as long as open source is around bill will grab it slap a ms face on it and call it his
[09:28] <airox> But well ... if you can make it look the same with 30% of the code...
[09:28] <burnboyy> does anyone know of a functional mp3 player for gnome?
[09:28] <balistic22> f_newton ugh this is killing me
[09:28] <LinuxDolt> also... isn't it a bad idea to have /boot permanently mounted?  yet, when i try to unmount it, ubuntu complains that it's in use
[09:28] <airox> burnboyy: xmms ?
[09:28] <Chaotic_Reality> burnboyy, xmms is pretty popular
[09:28] <f_newton> yeah you need to take a break kid
[09:28] <Madpilot> airox: very few browsers actualy *pass* acid2. the point is mostly to see how gracefully they fail right now...
[09:28] <orac7000> burnboyy: xmms + gxmms
[09:28] <burnboyy> alright thanks airox, i'll check it out
[09:28] <holysmokes> burnboyy: beep-media-player is similar to xmms, but written for gtk2
[09:28] <BeatYou> airox: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx
[09:29] <orac7000> burnboyy: gxmms is a gnome panel applet so you can control xmms
[09:29] <luminerd> holysmokes, thanks, but no cigar
[09:29] <desrt> embrace muine
[09:29] <holysmokes> luminerd: you're trying to enable dhcp for a particular network interface, correct?
[09:29] <desrt> i'd love to go into a page-long rant about why xmms is really just awful
[09:29] <desrt> and how it's 2005 now
[09:29] <desrt> and how you should really just use muine
[09:29] <luminerd> holysmokes, I am just trying to get online
[09:30] <holysmokes> luminerd: this is an ethernet interface?
[09:30] <luminerd> the 10/100 ethernet cable's plugged in
[09:30] <desrt> but i won't :)
[09:30] <Madpilot> desrt: nice evangalizing!
[09:30] <luminerd> holysmokes, yes 10/100
[09:30] <desrt> Madpilot; :)
[09:30] <holysmokes> luminerd: is it the only network interface present in the machine?
[09:30] <burnboyy> i just started using linux about 3 hours ago
[09:30] <burnboyy> this is a nice GUI
[09:30] <luminerd> holysmokes, yes, should be
[09:31] <luminerd> burnboyy, what gui?
[09:31] <luminerd> gnome?
[09:31] <burnboyy> ya
[09:31] <holysmokes> luminerd: try 'dhclient3 eth0'
[09:31] <burnboyy> i've never used any linux
[09:31] <burnboyy> the ubuntu version is so easy
[09:31] <Madpilot> burnboyy: welcome to the Light Side, then! ;)
[09:31] <luminerd> burnboyy, once you know more about linux, find out about e17.  it's the most beautiful gui ever...tops mac imho
[09:31] <burnboyy> accept installing software.... doesn't seem there are executables, so what do you do with binaries?
[09:31] <selinium> I am copying a DVD using     dd if=/dev/cdrom1 of=Blue_Planet_Disc_1.iso bs=16M    I have left it running over night, but it has only done 784.0 MB. Any ideas?
[09:32] <Madpilot> ubotu tell burnboyy about synaptic
[09:32] <luminerd> holysmokes, it worked!
[09:32] <balistic22> ubotu
[09:32] <balistic22> is that a bot?
[09:32] <holysmokes> luminard: sorry, i should have clarified that by 'iface' i meant the network interface in question :)
[09:32] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:32] <ubotu> from memory, ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[09:33] <balistic22> hey ubotu tell me about synaptic package manager
[09:33] <balistic22> not that i dont know
[09:33] <holysmokes> you kids have it so easy.. package management
[09:33] <burnboyy> cool, still is GUI
[09:33] <Madpilot> ubotu tell balistic22 about list
[09:34] <balistic22> ugh..
[09:34] <Madpilot> balistic22: that'll get you a list of all ubotu's commands
[09:34] <balistic22> ohh ok
[09:34] <balistic22> ubotu list
[09:34] <ubotu> list is, like, at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:34] <balistic22> gangsta
[09:34] <balistic22> ubotu netboot
[09:34] <ubotu> well, netboot is a method of installing Ubuntu over a network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[09:34] <balistic22> haha
[09:34] <balistic22> ubuto women
[09:35] <balistic22> LOL
[09:35] <balistic22> haha
[09:35] <balistic22> ok sorry..
[09:35] <Madpilot> balistic22: you can /msg ubotu <foo> for private chat
[09:35] <balistic22> awesome
[09:36] <balistic22> ok you know im going to do this motherefing net boot install
[09:37] <balistic22> HOW DO I LOAD A NETBOOT FROM THE COMPUTER IM INSTALLING UBUNTU
[09:37] <balistic22> do in eed a floppy
[09:37] <balistic22> IS there a god.. out there that can help me.. and let me go to sleep
[09:37] <balistic22> because i need to figure this outttt
[09:38] <balistic22> ok..
[09:39] <f_newton> balistic ... let me scroll up
[09:39] <f_newton> I was reading the comics
[09:39] <aru> balistic22: did you ask google?
[09:39] <balistic22> f_newton oman i cant sleep till i get ubuntu on htat freaking comp
[09:39] <aru> balistic22: try going to www.google.com and type in the phrase ubuntu net install
[09:39] <balistic22> aru i have
[09:40] <f_newton> well you are gonna get mighty tired I tell ya
[09:40] <BeatYou-AFK> Madpilot; does this generate that funny looking transparancy? http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm
[09:40] <BeatYou-AFK> i changed it to a JPG
[09:41] <f_newton> balistic do me a favor will ya?  type uname in the command line and paste the results to rafb.net/paste
[09:41] <Madpilot> BeatYou: yeah, the "Go" button on the left still looks odd. the big nav bar works tho
[09:41] <Madpilot> do you want me to post a screenshot?
[09:41] <sward> Anyone here familiar with APIC/ACPI?
[09:41] <BeatYou> Madeye: that is really pissing me off, its a JPG i dont know why it looks weird
[09:41] <bob2> sward: best to just ask your question
[09:41] <balistic22> umm f_newton remember its on another laptop nad i odnt have a gui or anything
[09:41] <BeatYou> Madeye: that would be aweomse
[09:42] <BeatYou> arggghh
[09:42] <f_newton> lol you never got lynx running?
[09:42] <BeatYou> Madpilot: a screenshot would be grat
[09:42] <balistic22> and the output is linux
[09:42] <balistic22> lol
[09:42] <balistic22> thats all it said
[09:42] <balistic22> linux
[09:42] <balistic22> wait how do i donwload lynx again
[09:42] <balistic22> tell me ill do it now
[09:42] <Madpilot> BeatYou: OK, just a minute
[09:42] <f_newton> apt-get install lynx
[09:42] <Madpilot> balistic22: use "uname -a" to get more stuff
[09:42] <sward> My system clock is running 2x normal speed, on a turion based laptop. Googling showed that a workaround is to use noapictimer, but that makes my cpu freeze during bootup =)
[09:43] <bob2> sward: does booting with "noapic" work? are you sure you passed the command line to the kernel correctly?
[09:43] <sward> noapic will not boot as well
[09:43] <f_newton> balistic22, I have about 15 minutes left
[09:43] <sward> and yes, I manually tried both of them through grub
[09:44] <sward> I already patched my DSDT, so I'm not getting any more ACPI errors
[09:44] <bob2> you're sure you passed it correctly?
[09:44] <bob2> when does it freeze?
[09:44] <sward> with noapic, it freezes during hotplug
[09:44] <sward> with noapictimer it freezes before it gets to any init scripts
[09:44] <balistic22> f_newton its nouse
[09:44] <sward> with the watchdog timer detecting a cpu halt
[09:45] <f_newton> balistic22, What did it say?
[09:45] <balistic22> unable to fetch archive
[09:45] <f_newton> why?
[09:45] <killapop> hi... how does one open a .bin file -- stoopid noob q
[09:45] <balistic22> i dunno i have it connected to the internet
[09:45] <f_newton> ah its pointed to the web not the cd
[09:45] <sward> I'm also getting a ton of APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[09:45] <balistic22> but its not like
[09:45] <balistic22> doign anything
[09:45] <sward> in dmesg
[09:45] <bob2> killapop: read the instructions that came with it
[09:46] <balistic22> it says looking at debian mirror ... etc..
[09:46] <balistic22> and it doesnt move from tehre
[09:46] <balistic22> then bash
[09:46] <f_newton> duh yer right balistic22 I forgot you cant read from the cdrom
[09:46] <balistic22> oh yeah
[09:46] <glick> does anyone here run a dedicated smoothwall firewall?
[09:46] <f_newton> ok lets get your usb working then
[09:46] <balistic22> how do we do that
[09:46] <killapop> bob2: ummmm all i have is a .bin file..... no instructions - im trying to install jre and downloaded it from the sun site
[09:46] <bob2> killapop: so, don't do that
[09:46] <bob2> killapop: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:46] <bob2> glick: #smoothwall, presumably
[09:46] <aru> killapop: did you try synaptic?
[09:47] <bob2> or #ipcop if you don't want to send them money
[09:47] <Madpilot> BeatYou: here you go  http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3442/cltest2jh.png
[09:47] <killapop> bob2: coolio thanks
[09:47] <killapop> bob2: i tried searching apt-cache but no luck
[09:47] <traveller> i'm trying to install w32codecs on ubuntu amd64 but it's not in any of the repos
[09:47] <f_newton> we are going to have to wait til tomorrow I fear... I am going to have to go in 12minutes
[09:47] <killapop> bob2: will try synaptic
[09:47] <BeatYou> Madpilot: oh god.... i made a huge newbie mistake haha
[09:47] <bob2> killapop: yes, read that wiki page
[09:47] <killapop> bob2: thanks
[09:47] <bob2> java of course isn't in ubuntu
[09:48] <bob2> traveller: yes, that won't work
[09:48] <traveller> does anyone know where i can get w32codecs?
[09:48] <BeatYou> that is the text "GO" not the image, i forgot to do an image replace on that
[09:48] <aru> !tell traveller about mp3
[09:48] <f_newton> hey balistic22 try this... type lynx in the command line  it may alredy be loaded
[09:48] <bob2> traveller: they're windows i386 dlls.  how would they run in a amd64-compiled binary?
[09:48] <bob2> (hint: they won't)
[09:48] <f_newton> wait
[09:48] <Madpilot> BeatYou: I thought that's what it looked like. haven't looked at the code at all!
[09:48] <balistic22> f_newton yeah?
[09:48] <f_newton> we dont have you hooked to the web yet
[09:48] <f_newton> lol
[09:48] <bob2> if you really want them, make a i386 chroot, or hope that mplayer works with ia32-libs
[09:48] <BeatYou> Madpilot: thanks for the screen though
[09:48] <f_newton> I am losing it tonight
[09:48] <f_newton> lol
[09:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know a good IRC bot i could base a bot on?
[09:48] <Madpilot> BeatYou: does that not  display like that on other browsers?
[09:48] <BeatYou> Kamping_Kaiser eggdrop ?
[09:48] <balistic22> f_newton lol yeah lynx dont work
[09:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> BeatYou: thanks I'll look at it
[09:49] <traveller> bob2: ok, i'm obviously missing something. what do i do to be able to play wmv files?
[09:49] <f_newton> what kind of internet connection do you have for the laptop?
[09:49] <BeatYou> Madpilot: for some reason the image replacement method im using does not work on buttons in anything but firefox
[09:49] <aru> balistic22: between you and me, maybe you should install windows98
[09:49] <bob2> traveller: no idea
[09:49] <f_newton> lol
[09:49] <Doonz> k i have 512 ram in my system my mobo is dual channel capable what improvement would i get if i got another 512 stick?
[09:49] <balistic22> cable_fnewton
[09:49] <bob2> traveller: if you care about binary-only junk like windows dlls, tho, you'd want to be running i386 ubuntu
[09:49] <aru> traveller: follow that link that ubotu sent you
[09:49] <f_newton> ok so you have a nic on the lappy?
[09:49] <Madpilot> BeatYou: yeah, I just checked in FF, it looks OK. aren't browsers fun?
[09:50] <balistic22> yup
[09:50] <BeatYou> Madpilot: dunno if "fun" is the correct word
[09:50] <f_newton> is it plugged in?
[09:50] <davro> just setup ubuntu on mini-itx with two nic's, eth0 as red external, eth1 green internal, using firestarter, dhcp, the hosts on the green nic are taking the dhcp, but i have no idea howto setup the host dns.
[09:50] <balistic22> yup
[09:50] <balistic22> the router gets the signal
[09:50] <f_newton> ok we do have internet then
[09:50] <balistic22> yeah
[09:50] <bob2> davro: "host dns"?
[09:50] <traveller> aru: i've been there, there's nothing about windows format in amd64
[09:50] <floppyears> hi
[09:50] <Madpilot> BeatYou: I'd get kicked from here if I used a more honest word... ;)
[09:50] <BeatYou> heh
[09:50] <balistic22> when i take it out
[09:50] <balistic22> it says
[09:50] <traveller> well at least i tried w32codecs but it doesn't work
[09:50] <bob2> traveller: does mplayer with ffmpeg play them?
[09:50] <balistic22> lost link beat
[09:50] <davro> dns for the hosts on the green nic.
[09:50] <balistic22> then i plug it back in and it says found link beast
[09:50] <floppyears> is there a website similar to debian-administration.org but for ubuntu ?
[09:50] <bob2> traveller: i386 windows will not work, sorry
[09:51] <bob2> davro: you don't need to do anything special
[09:51] <f_newton> balistic22, type this ifconfigup eth0   is that right y'all?
[09:51] <aru> traveller: I know nothing about this amd64 crap, I use a normal computer
[09:51] <bob2> davro: assuming your dhcp server is configured to point them at your isp's nameservers
[09:51] <traveller> bob2: hold on, i'll grab a video and try
[09:51] <bob2> aru: er, attitude please
[09:51] <aru> bob2: stated a fact, judgement please
[09:52] <bob2> aru: er, no, sorry
[09:52] <balistic22> bash
[09:52] <balistic22> ifconfigup eth0
[09:52] <f_newton> balistic22, ifconfig up eth0
[09:53] <floppyears> anybody ?
[09:53] <balistic22> ok we got something
[09:53] <balistic22> somethings happening
[09:53] <f_newton> yeah
[09:54] <f_newton> yer being connected
[09:54] <f_newton> it gives you a dns address right?
[09:54] <balistic22> host name failure
[09:54] <liable> bob2: could you please kill a couple of onjoin bots in debian? (umit and life)
[09:54] <balistic22> wtf..
[09:54] <balistic22> problem after problem
[09:54] <f_newton> are you plugged in?
[09:54] <f_newton> make sure now
[09:54] <balistic22> ok hold on
[09:54] <davro> ok, i have the dhcp, on the firewall the isp seems to set up the firewall dns but not the host on the green
[09:54] <davro> host=hosts
[09:55] <BeatYou> Madpilot: you mind checking this again? I think i have fixed it http://dev.clsafety.com/test.htm
[09:55] <balistic22> yeahi m plugged in but im not getting much of a signal
[09:55] <sm0ketst> just a question, which are the default native gcc compilers installed in the last release?
[09:56] <balistic22> f_newton is there a way to load the cd rom drive that would save us  the trouble'
[09:56] <SDr> hi
[09:56] <balistic22> when i plugged in the cd rom drive it said a bunch of info on it
[09:56] <balistic22> so it did notice it installed
[09:56] <YuWeiW> hi all, is that support athero wireless chipset?
[09:56] <f_newton> yes you could get the right cdrom n cable for your laptop from ebay so that you could boot from it
[09:56] <hayden> does iTunes run under wine, and if so to what extent does it run?
[09:56] <SDr> I'm looking for a popup/banner/ad killer for firefox, something similiar to admuncher would be nice
[09:57] <balistic22> lol f_newton yeah i guess
[09:57] <YuWeiW> i mean in ubuntu
[09:57] <f_newton> ok then you did get it to recognize it
[09:57] <balistic22> do you know where i can find a windows 98 boot disk
[09:57] <f_newton> it told you what dev it was right?
[09:57] <balistic22> i have an idea
[09:57] <hayden> balistic22,  bootdisks.com
[09:57] <f_newton> it said /dev/something/something/
[09:57] <f_newton> ??
[09:58] <burnboyy> sweet i got xmms working
[09:58] <balistic22> it said DVDR Plexor model blah blah Usbcore
[09:58] <nekohayo> YuWeiW, it should be. I'd like to be sure too however
[09:59] <f_newton> well we need to find the /dev/device/location so we can eject/open it and put in a cdrom
[09:59] <sward> Anyone know a tool to track down non user space processor usage?
[09:59] <f_newton> dev/mnt/sda/cdrom or something
[09:59] <YuWeiW> nekohayo, thanks i just got a TP-LINK tl-wn550g wireless pci card. so wanna make sure that
[09:59] <f_newton> I dont know
[09:59] <traveller> bob2: the wmv files play, but the asf does not. i also noticed that when i make it full screen, it doesn't scale the video to fit the screen, instead the video size stays the same
[10:00] <f_newton> I am so lucky that my hardware works so well
[10:00] <f_newton> :)
[10:00] <floppyears> hi
[10:00] <floppyears> what's the latest ubuntu kernel with customizations ?
[10:00] <PurpleMotion> bb in 40 mins
[10:01] <knowledge> version
[10:01] <knowledge> GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time
[10:01] <knowledge> reference
[10:01] <rover_dan> hi, your guys. when i run "make install" , there were some warnning  msg like strip: Warning: Output file cannot represent architecture UNKNOWN! the software i built is rarelly used and there is no unique mailing list and no irc. my syetem is Breezy , gcc-4.02. any idea?
[10:01] <knowledge> anyone know what this means?
[10:01] <knowledge> rover_dan,
[10:01] <knowledge> are you doing 'make' prior?
[10:02] <rover_dan> knowledge, of coz i did
[10:02] <knowledge> cool well I'm out of ideas for you
[10:03] <rover_dan> knowledge, anyway, thanks :)
[10:04] <luminerd> is there any way to figure out, through terminal only, what resolution of X is currently running?
[10:04] <knowledge> anyone know what my error is all about?
[10:04] <balistic22> heh heh.. oh right..
[10:04] <balistic22> Im outta here guys
[10:04] <rover_dan> i guesst it's due to the GUN srtip. is it in package of binutils?
[10:04] <Madpilot> later, balistic22
[10:05] <balistic22> TAKE IT EASY KIDS
[10:05] <geneo93> compile it with older gcc
[10:05] <balistic22> DONT STAY UP TOOLATE
[10:05] <balistic22> GOD MY HEAD IS KILLING ME
[10:05] <balistic22> Im gonna dream command lines
[10:05] <luminerd> balistic22, I always do anyway
[10:05] <balistic22> l
[10:05] <balistic22> loll
[10:05] <rover_dan> i build the software for my x86 box , no cross-compiling
[10:06] <shakuhashi> what is the problem with the turn off of the ubuntu? taking more than 7minutes to hang off after the user select it?
[10:07] <shakuhashi> I did test with more than 80 machines in a course of Ubuntu we did..
[10:07] <muk_amd64> hey sup
[10:08] <muk_amd64> once you import songs into muine, how do you take them back out?
[10:09] <glick> hey dooes anyone know how to enter the bios of an old compaq presariou
[10:09] <glick> i inherited  400mhz p2 with 128 megs ram
[10:09] <chrisq> is there no xmodmap in breezy xbase-clients?
[10:10] <chrisq> any ideas where it went?
[10:10] <Madpilot> muk_amd64: wish I knew. I've got stuff I've deleted (in Nautilus) still showing up in Muine's listings...
[10:12] <Madpilot> wow, big netsplit. who survived?
[10:12] <Doonz> when should you add more ram to a system mines always sitting at 510 outta 512
[10:12] <f_newton> well its past my bedtime folks... see y'all later in the morning
[10:12] <Doonz> should i add another 512
[10:13] <crispynix-v6> Doonz: that depends -- how much of it is cached and buffered? linux tries to always use physical ram as much as possible
[10:13] <Doonz> Mem:    516500k total,   460608k used,    55892k free,    14064k buffers
[10:14] <Doonz> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   213912k cached
[10:14] <crispynix-v6> Doonz: type 'free' and look at cached
[10:14] <Doonz>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:14] <Doonz> Mem:        516500     466064      50436          0      14280     215632
[10:14] <Doonz> -/+ buffers/cache:     236152     280348
[10:14] <Doonz> Swap:            0          0          0
[10:14] <nekohayo> wow nice respawn
[10:15] <crispynix-v6> Doonz: so, ~215MB cached -- that can be freed up for more important stuff when necessary
[10:15] <Doonz> ok
[10:15] <Doonz> also quik question
[10:15] <Doonz> my mobo is dual channel capable
[10:15] <nekohayo> hey do any of you know games that were released in a context similar to enemy territory, besides enemy territory? just curious
[10:15] <Doonz> should i do that?
[10:16] <nekohayo> (context: free for linux)
[10:16] <Madpilot> Doonz: if you buy a 2nd stick you might as well
[10:16] <Doonz> will i see a huge performance increase>
[10:16] <Doonz> or nothing really
[10:17] <Doonz> i mean
[10:17] <Doonz> a noticible increase or not really
[10:17] <crispynix-v6> you'll probably notice a difference just by adding more RAM
[10:18] <Doonz> ok
[10:18] <floppyears> hi
[10:18] <Doonz> and i was thinking of putting in a fx5200 card
[10:18] <floppyears> I have a quick question
[10:18] <floppyears> by looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-source&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[10:18] <floppyears> I see that the kernel-source-2.6.11-7 has debian patches
[10:18] <Doonz> cause im only using a gf2
[10:18] <floppyears> are these the only patches and/or costumization ? or has ubuntu added their own ?
[10:19] <crispynix-v6> the FX should improve 2D performance if that's what you're trying to do
[10:19] <paulfox> has anyone here used google maps api to create a custom map? i want to create one, but don't know where to get the coordinates from
[10:19] <paulfox> sorry, off topic i know
[10:21] <Xyc0> So what is this crap that Mozilla is trying to make money off our Firefox?
[10:21] <crispynix-v6> Xyc0: "our Firefox?"  WTH are you, anyays? :p
[10:22] <The_Vox> Xyc0: how many lines of code do you have in FF?
[10:22] <Xyc0> none
[10:22] <Xyc0> Does that make it less ours?
[10:22] <Madpilot> Xyc0: huh?
[10:22] <The_Vox> Xyc0: 99% of the firefox/mozilla coders are paid by the mozilla foundation...it needs to get money to pay them.
[10:22] <floppyears> anybody know if there is a difference between the debian kernels and the ubuntu kernels ?
[10:22] <crispynix-v6> yes, since you can't claim copyright on any code in it
[10:22] <Tomcat_> No matter what Mozilla does with Firefox, it will still be ours.
[10:23] <Tomcat_> Because the code is on a free license, they can't change that.
[10:23] <Xyc0> They are obiously trying
[10:23] <Xyc0> good point tho Tomcat_
[10:23] <Tomcat_> Well they can try changing it for newer releases...
[10:23] <The_Vox> Xyc0: they are *already* making money...the corporation thing is just to be able to keep making money without incurring in tax problems, because the foundation is a non-proffit
[10:23] <Tomcat_> I'm only talking about the current source.
[10:24] <Tomcat_> I think you are right calling it "our firefox" because it's on a free license... but if the Mozilla Foundation stops releasing it... well that's certainly their right. :o
[10:24] <Xyc0> They need to start compiling for M$ more efficiently if they plan on selling that
[10:24] <The_Vox> Xyc0: every time anybody buys a t-shirt or coffee cup or whatever with the FF logo or the mozilla logo, the MozFoundation gets money from the sale.
[10:24] <The_Vox> Xyc0: they are *not* going to sell the program
[10:24] <Tomcat_> "compiling more efficiently"?
[10:25] <crispynix-v6> a corporation owned by a non-profit is kinda weird; usually it's the other way around AFAIK.  Hopefully it stays that way ;o
[10:25] <Xyc0> Anyone here use Moox?
[10:25] <The_Vox> Xyc0: they are going to sell more t-shirts, coffee cups and other crap like that...and support services for enterprises.
[10:25] <The_Vox> crispynix-v6: yes, it's weird...but I also hope it stays the way it is too :)
[10:25] <The_Vox> Xyc0: and that last one is the reason why they incorporated the corporation, I'm betting.
[10:25] <nekohayo> I don't see the problem (yet) of mozilla being a corporation under a mozilla foundation.
[10:26] <The_Vox> nekohayo: neither do I
[10:26] <nekohayo> I mean
[10:26] <Xyc0> The_Vox: the last one what?
[10:26] <nekohayo> if they get evil out of nowhere
[10:26] <nekohayo> we just take the code and run.
[10:26] <nekohayo> where's the problem? XD
[10:26] <The_Vox> never seen a section in the GPL or MPL that says you can't make money from the code...hell, FSF sells emacs CDs for 150USDlls
[10:27] <nekohayo> true.
[10:27] <The_Vox> Xyc0: <The_Vox> Xyc0: they are going to sell more t-shirts, coffee cups and other crap like that...and support services for enterprises. <---- that last one...support services
[10:27] <Xyc0> That is good to hear if it is true
[10:27] <nekohayo> yeah, like how to get rid of the big blue E on your desktop I guess
[10:27] <The_Vox> and I think GCC costs over 300USDlls
[10:27] <nekohayo> mwahaha
[10:27] <crispynix-v6> GPL doesn't mean that everyone gets the code, only people who acquire binaries (whether they were paid for or not)
[10:27] <The_Vox> lol, nekohayo
[10:27] <nekohayo> Xyc0, how the he... do you want them to turn evil?
[10:27] <Xyc0> I got the impression they were gonna charge for a PROFESSIONAL edition or something
[10:28] <Xyc0> Worst idea ever from Suse
[10:28] <nekohayo> hmm... then people would make a fork quite fast I believe
[10:28] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I haven't seen any mention of anything like that.
[10:28] <nekohayo> Xyc0, guess what, suse is GOING OPEN
[10:28] <nekohayo> :P
[10:28] <Xyc0> going open?
[10:28] <crispynix-v6> as in Fedora open
[10:28] <The_Vox> nekohayo: probably...problem is...there's only 3 or 4 people that aren't being paid by the moz foundation to work on firefox, out of the whole team.
[10:28] <traveller> there's a small beep sound from my speakers when i press a key, is there a way i can get rid of that?
[10:29] <nekohayo> yeah... osnews.com and slashdot.org related to opensuse.org
[10:29] <nekohayo> today or yesterday in the news
[10:29] <Xyc0> thats cool, didn't know that
[10:29] <Xyc0> Im still sticking with Ubuntu
[10:29] <nekohayo> I don't _dislike_ suse.. just like ubuntu better :P
[10:29] <Xyc0> nothing like rpm hell to ruin your distro
[10:29] <nekohayo> suse was my distro of choice before
[10:29] <The_Vox> nekohayo: there has never been much involvment by non-foundation coders in either mozilla nor firefox
[10:29] <The_Vox> Xyc0: rpm hell is a myth.
[10:29] <nekohayo> ... hmm what's the difference between RPM hell and DEB hell, please?
[10:29] <DaZjorz> helloooo
[10:29] <Xyc0> Alot of debuging
[10:29] <DaZjorz> me = back :D
[10:30] <The_Vox> Xyc0: at least in modern distros
[10:30] <DaZjorz> from vacation ^^
[10:30] <nekohayo> seems exactly the same to me.
[10:30] <Xyc0> RPM hell is a bit more... herm... frequent then DEB
[10:30] <The_Vox> DaZjorz: jump from a roof, you are making me envious :P
[10:30] <DaZjorz> lol
[10:30] <The_Vox> Xyc0: again, not true, at least not in a modern distro.
[10:30] <Tomcat_> I never had deb hell... but often rpm hell.
[10:30] <nekohayo> don't know... you know, I installed suse personal before ubuntu
[10:30] <The_Vox> Tomcat_: stop sticking rpms into your distro by hand.
[10:30] <nekohayo> and what I realized was
[10:30] <Tomcat_> But that was probably because I hate SuSE. :)
[10:31] <nekohayo> 1- it was better. only one CD instead of 5... 2- you could get everything through repositories.
[10:31] <Tomcat_> The_Vox: Well what can you do if you need backports? At least deb backports work. :)
[10:31] <Xyc0> The_Vox: I am working from FC3
[10:31] <The_Vox> I don't like suse much...but I do support a couple of hundred rpm-based boxes (mandriva servers and desktops), and I've never gotten myself into rpmhell
[10:31] <The_Vox> Tomcat_: not always...remember FF 2 weeks ago.
[10:31] <Xyc0> The_Vox: The major problem was lack of a decent YUM interface
[10:32] <Tomcat_> I don't say rpm is inferior, I'm just saying I had more problems with it than with deb... but that could be for a hell of a lot of reasons.
[10:32] <nekohayo> The_Vox, same here, to me rpm and deb are exactly the same, as a end user
[10:32] <nekohayo> an*
[10:32] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I don't use suse...but urpmi is as good as the apt system any day of the week...and has a few things that the debian-based distros need to implement.
[10:32] <Xyc0> Raise your hand if you have gotten WINE working on a RPM box.
[10:32] <LinuxDolt> you wanna know the distro with the WORST package management?  i love the distro to death, but gentoo's portage is hell on wheels
[10:32] <nekohayo> YOU worked too.
[10:32] <The_Vox> DaZjorz: I use it...good way to play Diablo :)
[10:33] <nekohayo> (Yast Online Udater)
[10:33] <nekohayo> LinuxDolt, why?
[10:33] <DaZjorz> The_Vox: Can I install Windows XP on VMWARE For Linux?
[10:33] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I used to play NWN is my desktop on mandriva
[10:33] <nekohayo> I mean, you do emerge firefox and that's it no?
[10:33] <DaZjorz> (i know I can)
[10:33] <nightswim> DaZjorz: yes
[10:33] <The_Vox> DaZjorz: yes, you can
[10:33] <LinuxDolt> nekohayo:  why what?  why do i say that portage is so horrible?  because it is.
[10:33] <DaZjorz> The_Vox: But on VMWare for Windows, I can't do fullscreen things n my vmware.
[10:34] <The_Vox> Xyc0: using winex, that is. I never tried the free wine...it's crippled for the only thing I want it, that is, games.
[10:34] <DaZjorz> TheVox: Do I have that problem in VMWare for Linux too?
[10:34] <Amaranth> smeg 0.8 has reached feature parity with gmenu-simple-editor
[10:34] <nekohayo> LinuxDolt, I mean, you do emerge firefox and that's it no? doesn't it work almost the same as every other solution out there?
[10:34] <Amaranth> it can flip things on and off ;)
[10:34] <riki> hi
[10:34] <airox> DaZjorz: afaik, you can use fullscreen on both.
[10:34] <The_Vox> DaZjorz: I've never used vmware on windows...last time I used windows directly on HW was win95...waaaay before vmware existed :)
[10:34] <airox> DaZjorz: I got VMware fullscreen on both...
[10:34] <LinuxDolt> nekohayo:  no, you do emerge firefox, get told that that mozilla is blocking it, so you unemerge mozilla, get told gnome depends on it
[10:35] <DaZjorz> airox: I can get VMWare to show me the virtual PC in fullscreen
[10:35] <The_Vox> DaZjorz: I can fullscreen my WXP virtual machine to play diablo on linux no problem
[10:35] <nekohayo> lol!
[10:35] <nekohayo> actually I remember apache and PHP are pretty dangerous to upgrade
[10:35] <DaZjorz> airox: But when I start a fullscreen thing n the virtual pc, it fails in vmware.
[10:35] <airox> hmm strange DaZjorz
[10:35] <riki> how do i know the gcc version was used to compile the kernel i'm using?
[10:35] <Amaranth> The_Vox, DaZjorz, airox: So nice to see VMWare has so many customers!
[10:35] <DaZjorz> maybe it is because of the version
[10:35] <Xyc0> The_Vox: It took me a minute to set up Wine on DEB systems.  Red Hat has always been hesitent to support any knind of windows emulation or adaptation on linux.
[10:36] <airox> Amaranth: yep.
[10:36] <Amaranth> Must suck paying that much just to run diablo though.
[10:36] <DaZjorz> Amaranth: Guess so.
[10:36] <Xyc0> Cedega is worth every penny
[10:36] <airox> The_Vox: Can't cedega run diablo ? (just a qeustion0
[10:36] <DaZjorz> airox: Private? Want to ask you something about vmware.
[10:36] <The_Vox> Amaranth: I use it to do networking demonstrations for clients using linux virtual machines...and to play Diablo on my linux box :)
[10:36] <LinuxDolt> nekohayo:  and then, once you FINALLY get all the blocks and dependancies figured out, you find out that the ebuild needs tweaking
[10:36] <DaZjorz> airox: Wrong channel here.
[10:36] <Amaranth> day by day cedega begins more and more worthless
[10:36] <nekohayo> hey people, I guess this is asked often.. but what does "feature freeze" mean in terms of reliability (not "it means no more new package submissions") ? does it mean that breezy should stop playing rodeo around august 11th and up?
[10:37] <nekohayo> LinuxDolt, and that there are conflicts in configuration files? XD
[10:37] <The_Vox> airox: you have to dump your X colordepth to 256 colors for it to work...and nothing is worth doing that :)
[10:37] <airox> hehe
[10:37] <The_Vox> airox: D2 does work, tho, or so I'm told...I don't play D2
[10:37] <airox> ah
[10:37] <Amaranth> nekohayo: It means (aside from X and GNOME) that work should turn to fixing bugs, not uploading new versions of things and new working on new features.
[10:37] <LinuxDolt> nekohayo:  yep, once it finally finishes building you find out you have 20 different config files in /etc that need to be manually merged or discarded
[10:37] <Amaranth> err, and working on
[10:38] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I haven't used RH in years, and never used FC...but in mandriva/mandrake it's just a matter of "urpmi wine" and that's that.
[10:38] <nekohayo> so, theorically, the X thing should become um... quieter ?
[10:38] <Amaranth> nope, read what i said
[10:38] <nekohayo> (please don't hit me XD)
[10:38] <stiffler> can i watch vcd on my ubuntu system? im running it on a mac using linux
[10:38] <Amaranth> X isn't freezing with the rest of the system
[10:39] <LinuxDolt> i love the features and the theory of gentoo to death.  but the implementation has a lot of crazy quircks
[10:39] <Amaranth> because if it froze at 7.0 RC0 we'd be screwed
[10:39] <Bateau> hey! i need help changing my screenressolution. its stuck on 640x480 :( any one know what to do?
[10:39] <The_Vox> Amaranth: why do you think cedega is more worthless every day? I mean...for gamers who want to play modern games, it's the only choice...I haven't been able to get any games newer than 2002 working under vmware
[10:39] <riki> how do i know the gcc version was used to compile the kernel i'm using?, somebody can help please?
[10:39] <Amaranth> The_Vox: WINE proper's DirectX support gets better every day.
[10:39] <nekohayo> why? from what I understand in your last sentence, you're telling me that even when gold breezy is out it will still get updates?
[10:39] <nekohayo> (Xorg)
[10:40] <Amaranth> nekohayo: no
[10:40] <The_Vox> Amaranth: DX support isn't the only thing that's needed for gaming...you need the support for the proprietary copy-protection crap that most games have.
[10:40] <nekohayo> sorry, misunderstood
[10:40] <Amaranth> nekohayo: but until 7.0 releases X is going to be rough
[10:40] <stiffler> can i watch vcd on my ubuntu system? im running it on a mac using linux
[10:40] <stiffler> can i watch vcd on my ubuntu system? im running it on a mac using linux
[10:40] <LinuxDolt> of course, ubuntu has it's share of crazy quirks too
[10:40] <Amaranth> The_Vox: There are other ways around that. :)
[10:40] <nekohayo> oh OK I just figured out RC0 = release candidate 0
[10:40] <Amaranth> stiffler: Please don't repeat yourself.
[10:41] <The_Vox> Amaranth: not if you want to be able to play multiplayer games...nocd cracks and similar taint the game so you can't play on most official game servers.
[10:41] <Xyc0> stiffler: meaning you are running Live Ubuntu?
[10:41] <Bateau> is there no one who can help me? there has to be a config i can run in a terminal or something :/
[10:41] <Chaotic_Reality> is there a way to restore an xconfig to the default config that ubuntu sets up after install? i messed it up and want it to revert to how it was when it was working if possible.
[10:41] <Amaranth> The_Vox: Removing the protections and making an ISO you can mount should do the trick though.
[10:41] <Xyc0> The_Vox: Virtual Disk Images
[10:41] <The_Vox> Bateau: base-config
[10:42] <LinuxDolt> or, at least, they feel like quirks to me, but i only have experience with meta-distributions like gentoo, so what i think are quirks may just be standard crap to go through with binary distros
[10:42] <Amaranth> Chaotic_Reality: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <benplaut> goodnight everyone
[10:42] <Chaotic_Reality> thanks Amaranth
[10:42] <The_Vox> Amaranth: have tried that...at least blizzard's servers detect that kind of stuff and won't let you play
[10:42] <benplaut> !goodnight
[10:42] <ubotu> I don't know, benplaut
[10:42] <benplaut> shut up
[10:42] <DaZjorz> !goodnight
[10:42] <DaZjorz> ?
[10:42] <benplaut> hehe
[10:42] <Amaranth> The_Vox: There is no way they can detect it if done properly.
[10:42] <The_Vox> Xyc0: never managed to make it work with Diablo doing that.
[10:42] <Bateau> tahnx The_Vox  :D i`ll try it
[10:43] <benplaut> saying goodnight to the bot :P
[10:43] <Amaranth> The_Vox: And legal ways of making those things work in WINE are being figured out.
[10:43] <benplaut> !lart ubotu
[10:43] <The_Vox> Amaranth: well...I've never found a crack that did it properly....and I'm not a coder, so I depend on others :)
[10:43] <Amaranth> haha, your processes just got switched to the lowest priority
[10:43] <Amaranth> The_Vox: Who said anything about a crack?
[10:44] <The_Vox> Amaranth: the day it can be done in wine legally, I'll drop cedega...till then, I like my warcraft3, my NWN and all my other games :)
[10:45] <The_Vox> Amaranth: if you are breaking the copy protection, it's a crack...unless it's done legally
[10:45] <Xyc0> The_Vox: Guild Wars works flawless
[10:45] <Xyc0> The_Vox: That is my Diablo 2 replacement
[10:46] <DaZjorz> The_Vox: Private?
[10:46] <Amaranth> I just need Continuum to work on Cedega or WINE and I can stop dual-booting.
[10:46] <The_Vox> DaZjorz: sure
[10:46] <Bateau> The_Vox, ok, i started what you said... now what?  tasks?
[10:46] <athlon> has anyone tried installing / reinstalling apache2 lately ? the post-installation script wont work because of a dependancy problem
[10:47] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I got D2 for free....was a betatester back in the day
[10:47] <athlon> my apache config files just got hosed :-(
[10:47] <airox> :-(
[10:47] <Xyc0> The_Vox: Cool, I was a beta tester for Guild Wars, but so were alot of people.
[10:47] <Madpilot> !lamp
[10:47] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:48] <DaZjorz> !lampp
[10:48] <ubotu> Wish i knew, DaZjorz
[10:48] <Madpilot> athlon: see ubotu's post? ^^^
[10:48] <DaZjorz> !xampp
[10:48] <ubotu> DaZjorz: Are you smoking crack?
[10:48] <DaZjorz> dammit nooo +o(
[10:48] <athlon> Madpilot, yah
[10:48] <Madpilot> DaZjorz: only one "p" on lamp ;)
[10:48] <DaZjorz> why does it the bot know about lamp and not about LAMPP, XAMPP etc
[10:48] <DaZjorz> !xamp
[10:48] <ubotu> DaZjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:48] <LinuxDolt> i knew it lasted too long...
[10:48] <DaZjorz> there is lampp and xampp too
[10:49] <Madpilot> DaZjorz: because nobody's told ubotu about those yet
[10:49] <Madpilot> ubotu tell DaZjorz about list
[10:49] <DaZjorz> Madpilot: Thought that
[10:49] <ilba7r> any one had this problem with aptitude? using the gui for aptitude i got 16 broken packages and when i checked why it said some dependencies are broken while checking for the broken dependencies i found them all installed!!!!wierd
[10:49] <DaZjorz> -.-' does he know anything about list ;-D
[10:50] <Bateau> The_Vox, help me please :/ can i talk to you in msg?
[10:50] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I used to play D1 with the VP of blizzard north....he got me and a few other friends in the internal beta testing...there's even some characters and items in D2 named after a few of us :)
[10:50] <DaZjorz> brb
[10:50] <ondrej> mako: ping?
[10:50] <Madpilot> DaZjorz: the format for educating ubotu is "ubotu <foo> is <bar>" - a link into the Ubuntu wiki is a good thing to include
[10:50] <Despeeh> ilba have you tried to fix broken packages?
[10:50] <The_Vox> Bateau: I've not messed with base-config in a long time...and I'm not about to mess with it when I have a working box at the moment :) Explore in there and find the X configuration section
[10:51] <Bateau> :x
[10:51] <athlon> Madpilot, still doesnt work, same error message
[10:51] <Xyc0> The_Vox: Diablo 2 has wasted many hours of my life.  I have a uber assasin I log on to keep from being deleted
[10:51] <Despeeh> Xyc0 did you have level 99 characters?
[10:51] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I never really got into D2....D1, on the other hand, is still my main vice
[10:52] <Despeeh> I played about 5 years D1 :)
[10:52] <Xyc0> The_Vox: I grew up in the "Gotta be Multiplayer" era of PC games.
[10:52] <athlon> Anyone interested in helping me reinstalling apache2 could check #flood
[10:52] <Bateau> is ther no one else that knows?
[10:52] <The_Vox> Despeeh: I'm still playing it...and I bought it 2 weeks after it was released :)
[10:52] <Xyc0> Despeeh: Yea I have a few lvl 99
[10:52] <Madpilot> athlon: hmmm, sorry, apache hasn't thrown any error msgs at me yet!
[10:53] <Despeeh> The_Vox you mean you still play D1?
[10:53] <The_Vox> Xyc0: D1 is multiplayer...4 players per game
[10:53] <Despeeh> ya i know
[10:53] <The_Vox> Despeeh: yup.
[10:53] <Despeeh> i have there also level 50 rogue in europe
[10:53] <Xyc0> The_Vox: But it was too easy to edit your character offline.
[10:53] <Despeeh> was 50 in year 1999 :)   just searching my third obs/zod, but never find
[10:54] <Despeeh> i know , scanners cant tell nothing nowadays
[10:54] <The_Vox> Xyc0: I played legit characters at all times...and have a few pure characters too...I used to play only with people in Tony's Honorable Players List from A.G.D.
[10:54] <Despeeh> everyone has got all drg/zods : obs/zods and all warriors strange/hastes with max stats and everything
[10:54] <Despeeh> i have pure 46
[10:55] <Despeeh> i am one of dragons there
[10:55] <Despeeh> if ya know duke and guys
[10:55] <Amaranth> don't hide or anything, i didn't do that for a reason :P
[10:55] <athlon> Madpilot, hmm... wonder if its because of php 5. Do you use php and if yes, which version do you use
[10:55] <The_Vox> Xyc0: my proudest accomplishment was a multi-dotted lvl 38 BNM
[10:55] <Madpilot> athlon: php4 here, from Ubuntu's repos
[10:55] <The_Vox> Xyc0: and a lvl 24 ironman
[10:55] <Xyc0> That made no sence to me
[10:55] <Xyc0> sense*
[10:56] <nekohayo> you guys ARE aware that you're chatting over uberlevels diablo 1 characters in an ubuntu channel? XD
[10:56] <Despeeh> lvl 24 ironman is pretty good in D1
[10:56] <athlon> Madpilot,  okay thanks...
[10:56] <Despeeh> ok lets quit talking about diablo :)
[10:56] <Madpilot> #ubuntu-offtopic - which isn't this channel...
[10:56] <The_Vox> Xyc0: BNM = Beyond Naked Mage...rules for BNM say that you have to use the worse equipment available at all times, and can't wear anything that's helpful...nothing but cursed items
[10:57] <Bateau> hey! i need help changing my screenressolution. its stuck on 640x480 :( any one know what to do?
[10:57] <The_Vox> nekohayo: yes...but it's almost 4am, gotta talk about something or go to bed...and I'm not sleepy yet lol!
[10:57] <nekohayo> hmmm... then get wobbly windows? XD
[10:57] <Madpilot> off to sleep, everyone. this getting up to work thing isn't any fun... :P
[10:57] <The_Vox> nekohayo: bah :P
[10:58] <The_Vox> ok, I guess I'll go play a couple of dlvls in diablo and then to sleep...arioshi ba all :)
[10:58] <Xyc0> Bateau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28Resolution%29
[10:59] <dade`>   gnome-phone-manager: Depends: libgsmme1c102 (>= 1.10-5) but it is not installable
[10:59] <dade`> right ?
[10:59] <dade`>                        Depends: libsigc++-1.2-5c102 but it is not installable
[10:59] <dade`> E: Broken packages
[10:59] <Bateau> thanx Xyc0 :)
[10:59] <stjepan> heya
[10:59] <Xyc0> Bateau: Let us know if that doesn't help
[10:59] <stjepan> when I try to do sudo aptitude remove emacs-chess
[11:00] <stjepan> then there occurs error
[11:00] <MartenH> hey. is there a tool out there to detect movement in a webcam?
[11:00] <airox> Yes.
[11:00] <stjepan> it says: you must do dpkg --configure -a to correct problem
[11:00] <Xyc0> Like for security?
[11:01] <airox> There is a very comprehensive suite for security and movement detection.
[11:01] <stjepan> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:01] <Bateau> oki Xyc0  :) bbl
[11:01] <stjepan> :(
[11:01] <stjepan> and now I do dpkg --configure -a
[11:01] <Xyc0> Good old strong bad
[11:02] <nekohayo> Xyc0, parles FR?
[11:02] <stjepan> and it do long time this:
[11:02] <stjepan> Setting up emacs-chess (2.0b4-2) ...
[11:02] <stjepan> install/emacs-chess: Handling install for emacsen flavor emacs21, logging to /tmp/elc_EGTuQ3.log
[11:02] <stjepan> :(
[11:02] <RedLine_> My gnome is freezing after I login. This happend when i have changed my CD-RW. I have tryed to switch them back, to install new kernel, xorg, gnome but nothing worked for me. What can i do to fix my system?
[11:02] <stjepan> :(
[11:02] <stjepan> can u help me?
[11:04] <batma8> alright, i got my driver installed for my wireless lan, and the computer recognizes it, and it only says driver present, but doesnt say hardware present
[11:04] <batma8> how to i turn on the card
[11:04] <RedLine_> can someone help me?
[11:05] <nekohayo> RedLine_, is this on a desktop or a laptop?
[11:05] <RedLine_> desktop
[11:05] <stjepan> what do you think about Kubuntu?
[11:05] <nekohayo> ok, just out of curiosity
[11:05] <airox> stjepan: Great stuff.
[11:05] <RedLine_> :)
[11:06] <stjepan> airox: really?????
[11:06] <Viking76> I tried installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu - which worked fine - so I *should* have a "kubuntu-like" system now. However, the default fonts are absolutely HUGE. Is there a package to install to get the "real" Kubuntu look, cause I sure hope this isn't it..
[11:06] <DaZjorz> stjepan: I ran a live CD on my pc and it looked great
[11:06] <Xyc0> batma8: Did you install the correct inf file?
[11:06] <LinuxDolt> where does Synaptic put beep-media-player plugins?
[11:07] <LinuxDolt> and skins
[11:07] <batma8> i did
[11:07] <batma8> i tried a few, and finally found one that didnt come up as invalid
[11:07] <batma8> i got it from a guy who has the same laptop even
[11:07] <airox> Viking76: Just alter the fonts in the configuration center.
[11:07] <airox> Viking76: And maybe(!) you want msttcorefonts
[11:07] <stjepan> but I installed Kubuntu and KDE looks very very bare
[11:08] <airox> stjepan: You can make it perfect.
[11:08] <airox> Add for example KDE Bluetooth Framework.
[11:08] <airox> :)
[11:08] <airox> Great fun.
[11:08] <airox> ;)
[11:08] <batma8> root@ubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -l
[11:08] <batma8> Installed ndis drivers:
[11:08] <batma8> bcmwl5  driver present
[11:08] <batma8> root@ubuntu:~#
[11:09] <batma8> i remember there was a line of code that turns on the card
[11:09] <DaZjorz> batma8: http://pastebin.ubuntu.nl
[11:09] <Xyc0> yea dont post in channel
[11:09] <Xyc0> paste*
[11:09] <airox> damn it takes long to compile all the modules for ubuntu :/
[11:09] <batma8> sorry guys
[11:09] <airox> Is there a way to just compile 1 module ?
[11:09] <airox> I only need orinoco and hermes modules :-)
[11:10] <Xyc0> batma8: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:10] <Viking76> Hmmz.. Many of the fonts available in gnome - such as the default "Sans" font don't show up in KDE. Anybody know why? :)
[11:10] <Viking76> (and yes - I've installed kubuntu-desktop)
[11:11] <batma8> thanks bro
[11:11] <batma8> you guys always rock
[11:11] <Xyc0> batma8: find your card in that list, see what drivers you need
[11:11] <stjepan> I use ndiswrapper
[11:11] <stjepan> and I made script for that
[11:12] <Xyc0> batma8: is that what you needed?
[11:12] <stjepan> and always I just run script and it configures ndiswrapper and all stuff
[11:12] <batma8> not sure yet :) ill let ya know in a sec
[11:12] <stjepan> and wlan works!
[11:12] <Xyc0> It sucks, my card slows down boot up if I am not in my network
[11:13] <batma8> yah, mine had that same problem
[11:13] <batma8> tooooook forever to boot
[11:13] <Chaotic_Reality> anyone got the ati control panel set up properly?
[11:14] <Xyc0> ati has a control panel now?
[11:14] <Xyc0> The drivers dont suck anyomore?
[11:14] <DaZjorz> ermm guys
[11:15] <DaZjorz> what was the url of the pastebin again
[11:15] <Xyc0> !paste
[11:15] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:15] <nekohayo> huh? since when
[11:15] <DaZjorz> ah yes
[11:15] <DaZjorz> why does ubuntulinux have a dutch domain name ?
[11:15] <Xyc0> Ubuntu is in europe?
[11:15] <Burgundavia> DaZjorz, that is the ubuntu dutch loco team
[11:16] <Burgundavia> Xyc0, ubuntu is everywhere
[11:16] <Xyc0> symantics
[11:16] <renedox> even in the toilet :P
[11:16] <Xyc0> hey, my laptop is prortable
[11:16] <DaZjorz> AAAH
[11:16] <DaZjorz> renedox: But ... Butt
[11:16] <DaZjorz> how
[11:16] <hayden> Xyc0, most laptops are
[11:16] <DaZjorz> my toilet doesn't have an IP
[11:16] <DaZjorz> how can i remote control it then !!
[11:16] <Viking76> Technically, the organisation supporting Ubuntu is in South Africa (Canonical) :)
[11:16] <Xyc0> hayden: you missed the point
[11:17] <DaZjorz> LOLLLLLLLLL
[11:17] <DaZjorz> LOOOOOOL
[11:17] <hayden> not really
[11:17] <DaZjorz> "Hey, my laptop is portable"
[11:17] <Xyc0> Viking76: neg, Isle of Man
[11:17] <cafuego> is it weekend yet?
[11:17] <DaZjorz> "Erm.. Most laptops are"
[11:17] <Xyc0> Viking76: It is an actual country
[11:17] <DaZjorz> that would be one for www.bash.org
[11:17] <Viking76> Oh well then. But Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa. ;)
[11:17] <RedLine> still not working
[11:18] <MartenH> I'm installing some motion detection software and it tells me to use mpeg_encode if I want the jpegs converted to mpeg. But I can't find a package like that...?
[11:18] <cafuego> !find mpeg_encode
[11:18] <DaZjorz> *silence*
[11:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'mpeg_encode' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/mpeg_encode) in multiverse/graphics/ucbmpeg.
[11:18] <Xyc0> my laptop IS portable... so I can take it to the toilet, bathtub, you name it
[11:18] <DaZjorz> aah
[11:18] <Xyc0> ubuntu is everywhere
[11:18] <DaZjorz> lol
[11:18] <DaZjorz> Xyc, most laptops are!
[11:18] <cafuego> Took it a moment to refresh all Packages files
[11:19] <Xyc0> damn kids and their drugs
[11:19] <DaZjorz> you can take most laptops to the toilet
[11:19] <cafuego> MartenH: See?
[11:19] <zAo^> but most wifi cards donnot work there :(
[11:19] <Xyc0> again, you missed the point
[11:19] <MartenH> cafuego, yes, strange it didn't turn up in synaptic...
[11:19] <cafuego> MartenH: Do you have the multiverse repository enabled?
[11:20] <DaZjorz>   Does anybody here knows about the program Swish (Easy flash)
[11:20] <hayden> whats the point then Xyc0 ?
[11:20] <airox> DaZjorz: Yes.
[11:20] <DaZjorz> airox: Does it have a Linux version too?
[11:20] <DaZjorz> or can I run it using Wine?
[11:20] <MartenH> cafuego, I think so but I
[11:20] <Xyc0> that 3 out of 4 people prefer Cherrios
[11:20] <MartenH> but I'm not sure.. how can I check?
[11:21] <hayden> n00b
[11:21] <airox> DaZjorz: Don't know. Try VMware ;D
[11:21] <cafuego> MartenH: See if 'ucbmpeg' installs.
[11:21] <DaZjorz> airox: I'll try.
[11:21] <Xyc0> hayden: watch the language
[11:21] <batma8> hey guys
[11:21] <cafuego> MartenH: Also, synaptic searches package names and dexcriptions, not actual contents.
[11:21] <batma8> i think we got it
[11:21] <batma8> !!!
[11:21] <ubotu> it has been said that ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:21] <Xyc0> batma8: sweet
[11:21] <cafuego> MartenH: .. therea subotu looks for files IN packages
[11:21] <DaZjorz>    I'm going to install Ubuntu on this pc. Are there any tips that I could use? Thanks!
[11:21] <hayden> n00b
[11:21] <MartenH> cafuego, I can find that in the list in synaptic so I assume it will isntall
[11:22] <cafuego> MartenH: Yep, should be fine.
[11:22] <batma8> ok..driver and hardware present, now how do i get it in my list of network options
[11:22] <batma8> heheeh
[11:22] <cafuego> s/therea subotu/whereas ubotu/
[11:22] <hayden> DaZjorz, what are the specs of the pc?
[11:22] <MartenH> cafuego, Ic, so it's ucbmpeg I should isntall and not mpeg_encode?
[11:22] <Xyc0> batma8: System > Admin > Network
[11:22] <Xyc0> batma8: I think
[11:23] <cafuego> MartenH: yep, ucbmpeg contains the mpeg_encode program.
[11:23] <MartenH> cafuego, ok, got it
[11:23] <Xyc0> batma8: im not on ubuntu right now
[11:23] <MartenH> cafuego, thanks =)
[11:23] <cafuego> no worries
[11:23] <batma8> hmm..isnt in the list
[11:23] <DaZjorz> hayden: pentium 4, 512 mb, geforce 4 128 mb, need any more?
[11:23] <Xyc0> batma8: look for your wlan0, and configure preferences
[11:23] <cafuego> DaZjorz: A hard disk would be handy
[11:23] <Xyc0> oh herm
[11:23] <DaZjorz> lol
[11:23] <Bateau> Xyc0, could you give me that link again? :)
[11:24] <batma8> i dont see wlan0 in the list
[11:24] <DaZjorz> ooops
[11:24] <Xyc0> batma8: all you did was install the driver
[11:24] <cafuego> DaZjorz: Apart from that, Ubuntu should run fine.
[11:24] <Xyc0> ?
[11:24] <batma8> but in my terminal it said it was present
[11:24] <hayden> DaZjorz, lol yea
[11:24] <DaZjorz> forgot that, 160- gb harddisk xP
[11:24] <Xyc0> Bateau: for what? sorry its late
[11:24] <hayden> DaZjorz, ati drivers r a bitch to get running
[11:24] <Xyc0> batma8: oh you have to load your driver now
[11:24] <cafuego> DaZjorz: You going to dual-boot?
[11:24] <batma8> i thought i did
[11:24] <hayden> DaZjorz, but seeing as u dont have one, shoudl b alright
[11:25] <Bateau> Xyc0: hehe, ok. for that help-thing on screenressolution changing
[11:25] <Xyc0> batma8: you installed the driver
[11:25] <DaZjorz> cafuego: I'm planning to install VMWare.
[11:25] <cafuego> DaZjorz: So you're going to wipe windows?
[11:25] <DaZjorz> Hayden: *Is happy* Am I glad that I don't have ATI ;-D
[11:25] <batma8> ok i got it xyco
[11:25] <DaZjorz> cafuego: Yes.
[11:25] <batma8> thank you
[11:26] <cafuego> DaZjorz: No probs then
[11:26] <Xyc0> Bateau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:26] <Bateau> ah, thanks Xyc0  :D
[11:26] <DaZjorz>  Anything I need to save before I remove Windows ? (except for saved games)
[11:26] <Xyc0> batma8: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:26] <cafuego> DaZjorz: Whatever you want to keep. Bookmarks? Email?
[11:26] <Xyc0> batma8: sudo ndiswrapper -m <--this will load modual at start up
[11:27] <DaZjorz> cafuego: All stored on e-mail server ;)
[11:28] <DaZjorz> Someone knows a fast, good IRC program for Ubuntu that I can install through apt-get fast ?
[11:28] <Xyc0> Anyone find a decent wirless radio app that works with ndiswrapper?
[11:28] <traveller> does anyone know how i can change the background colour of the splash screen
[11:28] <cafuego> DaZjorz: irssi-text
[11:28] <DaZjorz> cafuego: Console or KDE
[11:28] <Xyc0> traveller: System > Admin > Login
[11:29] <DaZjorz> it sounds like console program
[11:29] <zAo^> I dont have sound in rhythmbox, but in Gnome and BMP I do, what can be wrong?
[11:29] <traveller> Xyc0: doesn't seem like i can change any colours there
[11:30] <Xyc0> traveller: go to the stardard greeter tab and chage bgcolor
[11:30] <elw0od> zAo^ gstreamer plugin. esd volum...
[11:30] <DaZjorz>  Anyone has a good KDE IRC program for Linux ?
[11:30] <zAo^> elw0od, installed ervery gstreamer plugin :)
[11:30] <Xyc0> DaZjorz: gaim
[11:30] <ablyss> Konversation is good kde irc
[11:30] <DaZjorz> Xyc0: apt-get install gaim ?
[11:30] <traveller> Xyc0: ah...thanks, let me give it a go
[11:30] <Xyc0> DaZjorz: it is installed with ubuntu
[11:31] <DaZjorz> xyc: Thanks
[11:31] <Xyc0> DaZjorz: you might want to install IRC Helper Plugin
[11:31] <cafuego> DaZjorz: there are no good GUI irc clients. Not for Linux, not for anything.
[11:31] <DaZjorz>  ?
[11:31] <Xyc0> DaZjorz: you have to compile that tho
[11:31] <Xyc0> cafuego: anything but gaim
[11:31] <Xyc0> Gaim ROX
[11:31] <DaZjorz> Xyc: I'll get back on that after installing Ubuntu :)
[11:31] <DaZjorz> Seeya.
[11:31] <Xyc0> bye
[11:31] <cafuego> Xyc0: I don't see how "no" can be ambiguous.
[11:32] <Xyc0> cafuego: it was aplay on words
[11:33] <Xyc0> wow, he really had to let us know
[11:33] <cafuego> might as well be the bloody web!
[11:33] <Xyc0> DaZorz is installe Ubuntu EVERYONE
[11:33] <Xyc0> cafuego: what program does that?
[11:34] <cafuego> Xyc0: links
[11:34] <Xyc0> cafuego: that sucks, wont let you do irc commands?
[11:34] <icewt> irssi is great
[11:34] <cafuego> Xyc0: I use irssi, none of that gui crap.
[11:34] <Xyc0> Gaim has gui, but that is only for switching from channel to channel
[11:34] <cafuego> also means I can leave it running in 'screen' unattended
[11:35] <cafuego> Xyc0: ^n is far faster than moving the mouse and clicking
[11:35] <petti> irssi is quite close to heaven
[11:35] <cafuego> if I want a WINDOW I'll open an rxvt :-)
[11:36] <hayden> what window manager do u use cafuego ?
[11:36] <cafuego> hayden: basic Gnome at the moment.
[11:36] <hayden> ok
[11:37] <cafuego> with one or wto rxvt's ruinning 'screen', with each in between 1 and 20 shells.
[11:37] <Razor-X`> wow, even this place is relatively dull at this time of night...
[11:37] <cafuego> Razor-X`: liar
[11:38] <Razor-X`> cafuego: well, I joined for like.. a second
[11:38] <Cayne> lol
[11:38] <Xyc0> Razor-XYou missed it then
[11:38] <Razor-X`> on the way to San Diego, we stopped at like... one place
[11:38] <cafuego> Razor-X`: We were doing tequila earlier on
[11:38] <Xyc0> Your in SD cool so am I
[11:38] <Razor-X`> there were two WAPs, but one was busted
[11:38] <cafuego> Razor-X`: You checked IRC during a road trip?
[11:38] <cafuego> Razor-X`: Sheesh.
[11:39] <cafuego> and you thing WE are being boring? ;-)
[11:39] <Cayne> kde vs gnome....which is best?
[11:39] <cafuego> Cayne: yes
[11:39] <Xyc0> Cayne: Linux is
[11:39] <petti> I was sailing yesterday and.. yup. IRC :)
[11:39] <petti> today's phones are great
[11:39] <Xyc0> Cayne: consider it a choice that no other OS gives you
[11:39] <Cayne> :)
[11:40] <cafuego> Cayne: try both, see which one you prefer, use that one.
[11:40] <cafuego> or innstall both and run 'em simultaneously.
[11:40] <Razor-X`> and the second was slightly protected
[11:40] <Cayne> i'm a newbie...just switch with synaptic?
[11:40] <Xyc0> Cayne: or use both and never settle on just one
[11:40] <Razor-X`> s/protected/crappy
[11:40] <Razor-X`> errr
[11:40] <Xyc0> Cayne: You can switch between the two quite easily
[11:40] <Razor-X`> the second was protected
[11:40] <Cayne> can u run simultaneously?
[11:40] <Razor-X`> Cayne: install 'em simeltaneously, and run 'em seperately
[11:41] <Xyc0> Cayne: Just inatall Ubuntu and get used to Gnome b4 trying KDE
[11:41] <cafuego> Cayne: Ubuntu comes with Gnome. if you want KDE< install 'kubuntu-desktop' using synaptic (yes, it's big) and choose Gnome or KDE from the Session menu upon login.
[11:41] <Cayne> ahhh
[11:41] <Cayne> k
[11:41] <Cayne> looks big !
[11:41] <Razor-X`> still, there's a WEP connection like next door -- i'm going to try and use AirSnort (for Windows) to do something about that
[11:41] <cafuego> Cayne: Probably an extra 200 or so Mb.
[11:42] <Xyc0> I keep mine WEP cause I don't mind others using my Wireless if they know how
[11:42] <Razor-X`> heh
[11:42] <Razor-X`> I keep mine MAC exclusive
[11:42] <Xyc0> I figured they have to earn it
[11:42] <MartenH> does anyone have experience running motion?
[11:43] <Xyc0> cafuego: what router?
[11:43] <cafuego> Xyc0: router?
[11:43] <Xyc0> you use wep correct, you need a wireless access point
[11:43] <batma8_> IT WORKED!!!
[11:43] <Xyc0> 9 out of 10 its a router
[11:43] <guim> hi all
[11:43] <cafuego> Xyc0: Yes. What does that have to do with routers?
[11:44] <zAo^> lo guim
[11:44] <guim> I had a strange bug will updating my ubuntu
[11:44] <cafuego> Xyc0: The AP just hands out IPs. When you get an IP, you need to VPN to the Linux box (which is the router)
[11:44] <guim> if anyone want to see the screeshoit I made
[11:44] <cafuego> Xyc0: if you access the web WITHOUT vpn, you get a web page and a log entry.
[11:45] <zAo^> guim, got URL?
[11:45] <cafuego> s/web/anything not on the wifi lan/
[11:45] <guim> preparing it
[11:45] <Kaiser_away> i apt-ed in eggdrop, but it cant find the config file, does someone know where i should create the file?
[11:45] <guim> http://jupiter.cerdecam.be/~glederer/superubuntu.gif
[11:46] <cafuego> Kamping_Kaiser: /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/*
[11:46] <zace> good morning.
[11:46] <guim> blank message to reprot an error
[11:46] <guim> report
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> cafuego: I'm about to, i was hoping to cut a corner.
[11:46] <guim> (it is in french, sorry)
[11:46] <zAo^> guim, I dont speak spanish!
[11:46] <zAo^> nor frensh :D
[11:46] <guim> it is FRENCH
[11:47] <zAo^> sorry :$
[11:47] <guim> it just says that "hte following problems have been encountered on your system :"
[11:47] <batma8_> is there a way for me to view the windows partitions from linux?
[11:47] <guim> and then there is an empty list ;-)
[11:47] <kemik> batma8_:  yes, mount them
[11:47] <batma8_> mount them huh
[11:47] <kemik> !windowspartition
[11:47] <ubotu> kemik: I give up, what is it?
[11:47] <zAo^> tried in Synaptic?
[11:48] <batma8_> is that tough?
[11:48] <Xyc0> !ntfs
[11:48] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:48] <kemik> !ntfs
[11:48] <kemik> damn, Xyc0 beat me to it ;)
[11:48] <guim> that was the security update
[11:48] <traveller> is there anywhere i can download newer versions of openoffice.org?
[11:48] <batma8_> :)
[11:48] <guim> of hoary
[11:48] <batma8_> thank god for you guys
[11:48] <traveller> i mean install*
[11:48] <selinium> HI there, how do i create a link so if i put files in my ~/Music it will also appear in /var/music
[11:48] <Xyc0> batma8_: Just make sure you are here enough to help others
[11:49] <batma8_> heck yes
[11:49] <abarbaccia> ln -s ~/Music /var/music
[11:49] <kemik> batma8_:  and, NTFS partitions will not be "writable"
[11:49] <abarbaccia> thats for you selinium
[11:49] <batma8_> that is fine
[11:49] <batma8_> but i could read my mp3s n junk
[11:49] <kemik> just so you know :)
[11:49] <kemik> yes
[11:49] <selinium> abarbaccia: CHeers
[11:49] <Xyc0> I wonder if WinFS kernel patches are ready
[11:49] <batma8_> !ntfs is a program then
[11:49] <ubotu> ...but ntfs is already something else...
[11:49] <batma8_> from synaptic?
[11:49] <Xyc0> batma8_: ntfs is the files system Windows XP uses
[11:50] <batma8_> right
[11:50] <Xyc0> batma8_: Linux uses Ext3 as default
[11:50] <batma8_> so how do i mount to the other partition so i can read me mp3s?
[11:50] <Xyc0> well, ubuntix does
[11:50] <ofer0> saw that? http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123223576.jpg
[11:50] <rob^> does anyone know why evolution shows my inbox and other folders as if they have unread email in them, yet there isn't?
[11:51] <Xyc0> batma8_: it should all be in that link ubotu posted
[11:51] <batma8_> ohhhhhhh
[11:51] <batma8_> ok
[11:51] <kemik> Xyc0:  that link is a bash script
[11:51] <Xyc0> aww not user friendsly html?
[11:51] <rob^> ok, I'll guess I'll be filing a bug then..
[11:52] <kemik> Xyc0:  no, unfortunately not
[11:52] <Xyc0> batma8_: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/
[11:52] <selinium> abarbaccia: it created the link but gnump3 can only see the folder not its contents :(
[11:53] <REds> \] 
[11:53] <REds> \] -+
[11:53] <REds> \
[11:53] <REds> \
[11:53] <REds> \12346789
[11:53] <athlon> i installed apache 2 but there is no file called 'apxs' in /usr/bin, how do I find out which package has it ?
[11:54] <Xyc0> batma8_: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ntfs.html#4.5
[11:54] <zAo^> athlon, zao@amd:~$ apt-cache search apxs
[11:54] <zAo^> apache-dev - development kit for the Apache webserver
[11:54] <batma8_> thanks again bro
[11:55] <athlon> zAo^, thanks !
[11:55] <zAo^> np
[11:55] <Xyc0> batma8_: If you have a seperate partition for just music, you might want to consider formating in fat32.  Both Linux and Windows can read/write to fat32
[11:56] <Xyc0> batma8_: if it is the same partition as windows, dont bother
[11:57] <zAo^> remember that FAT32 is a single-user FS.
[11:57] <kemik> zAo^:  huh ?
[11:57] <qiv> Xyc0: kinux can write nfs too, just ubuntu does not as standard ;)
[11:57] <kemik> im using a shared FAT32 partition
[11:57] <kemik> qiv:  it is not safe to do so
[11:57] <zAo^> kemik, you cannot set any security settings
[11:57] <kemik> zAo^:  ah, i c what you mean now :)
[11:57] <Xyc0> qiv: none of that is openly supported
[11:58] <ablyss> just put music on a home based server on your local LAN... solves read write issues and recognizes single or multiple users
[11:58] <zAo^> just dont try to write to NFTS... for your own good :D
[11:58] <kemik> qiv:  in this channel, only safe stuff is suggested. no good putting new users in tonnes of trouble
[11:58] <Xyc0> zAo^: even though ubntu tries horridly to
[11:58] <Xyc0> zAo^: assigning permissions
[11:58] <zAo^> Xyc0, does it? :-|
[11:58] <kemik> ablyss:  indeed it does, but not all people can do that. :)
[11:59] <batma8_> actually Xyc0, i do have a separate partition just for mp3 and vids
[11:59] <zAo^> Xyc0, ah, sorry :) Yes. Use your mountoptions to solve it
[11:59] <batma8_> ill convert to fat 32
[11:59] <Xyc0> zAo^: when I copy folders from vfat, everynow and then a folder is root permission only
[11:59] <batma8_> that makes more sence
[11:59] <Xyc0> zAo^: oh no, thats not what I meant
[11:59] <kemik> batma8_:  wait, there's one more restriction, FAT32 cant store dvd-image files
[11:59] <ablyss> kemik... anyone with a computer should be able too.. just a little motivation ;)
[11:59] <batma8_> what dvd player software do you guys use
[11:59] <qiv> kemik: i did not suggest it either, but it would work ;)
[11:59] <batma8_> thats fine
[11:59] <zAo^> Xyc0, so: vfat > etx3 (example) will give you root:root?
[11:59] <Xyc0> batma8_: back up your music, when you format you erase everything on that partition
[11:59] <batma8_> its all divx and mp3
[11:59] <kemik> batma8_:  Fat32 supports 4gb files at most, and dvd-images are larger :(
[12:00] <batma8_> right
[12:00] <batma8_> i remember that problem when i was dinkin with windows
[12:00] <Xyc0> zAo^: randomly, for somefolders is doesn't.  No one can answer why it does that
[12:00] <kemik> ablyss:  not everyone affords having one more computer, and add to that the electricity cost of running it too :)
[12:00] <Xyc0> zAo^: It is easy enough to change permissions, and I dont copy too much from vfat, just to vfat
[12:00] <zAo^> Xyc0, hmm. Never noticed that
[12:01] <zAo^> Xyc0, I have some vfat partitions, but I dont use them (anymore ;-)
[12:01] <Xyc0> kemik: that isn't true
[12:01] <joachim> hi
[12:02] <Xyc0> kemik: I've had many DVD images on my vfat, never once a problem
[12:02] <zAo^> hi joachim
[12:02] <kemik> Xyc0:  about the 4gb cap ?
[12:02] <Xyc0> rgr
[12:02] <joachim> I'm trying to unmount a drive, but I get a message that it's busy. but I've not got any documents on that drive open
[12:02] <Xyc0> unless my def of a DVD image is different from yours
[12:03] <kemik> Xyc0:  a full dvd is somewhere in 4.8gb in size, and its not supported by the fat32 FS
[12:03] <Xyc0> joachim: is it mounted as /
[12:03] <Seveas> All Breezy enthousiasts: Daniels has released a new version of X.org which is supposed to work again
[12:03] <zAo^>  the FAT32 filesize limit is 4G minus 1 Byte.
[12:03] <joachim> nope, it's mounted on a folder in my home
[12:03] <batma8_> what do i need to dload other than mplayer itself to play dvd discs
[12:03] <kemik> from doom9.org: "problems with images larger than 4 GB (FAT32 can't handle files larger than 4 GB)."
[12:03] <zAo^> Seveas, lemme see. Thanks!
[12:04] <kemik> batma8_:  i'd suggest Videolan instead for dvd-playback
[12:04] <Seveas> batma8_, you might need libdvdcss2
[12:04] <Xyc0> kemik: oh i understand now, no my DVD ripper divides up the rip into smaller files
[12:04] <Xyc0> kemik: DVD Decrypter
[12:04] <batma8_> thanks to both of ya
[12:04] <zAo^> Seveas, nothing new here. Still -43
[12:05] <kemik> DVD Dec. is a nice app, but if you download a dvd image you may not have that option ;)
[12:05] <Xyc0> batma8_: did you get everything working?
[12:05] <kemik> batma8_:  www.videolan.org <- check it out, supports DVD_menu aswell (afaik mplayer does not supoprt menus)
[12:05] <batma8_> hell yeah, wireless is workin great, now im just tryin to get life back to normal, i have formating
[12:05] <WaterSevenUb> Hi there.... Does anyone here uses Rosetta? Can anyone explain me why in French Breezy templates there is a template "gnome-app-install" and in Portuguese templates there isn't?
[12:05] <Xyc0> kemik: you can install vlc from backports now I belive
[12:05] <kemik> Xyc0:  oh, sweet :)
[12:06] <joachim> I get "mount: /home/joachim/nt: device is busy", but *twice*, which seems weird
[12:06] <batma8_> videolan didnt show up in synaptic
[12:06] <batma8_> ehehhe
[12:06] <topyli> how do i copy my customized gnome menu to another user?
[12:06] <Xyc0> batma8_: you need to add backports
[12:06] <kemik> !backports
[12:06] <ubotu> backports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[12:06] <batma8_> backports
[12:06] <kemik> batma8_:  need to add it in yuor /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:07] <Xyc0> and you might want to activate multiverse and universe
[12:07] <kemik> batma8_:  and then do "apt-get update" so the new repos is added in your apt-database
[12:07] <batma8_> how would i go bout doin that?
[12:07] <Xyc0> kemik: he really should do it through synaptic
[12:07] <Xyc0> !repos
[12:07] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:08] <abhayks> batma8:  sudo apt-get update
[12:08] <batma8_> wish i woulda moved to linux years ago
[12:08] <kemik> Xyc0:  i guess its more userfriendly.. i always use apt tho =)
[12:08] <Xyc0> batma8_: no time is better then now
[12:08] <abhayks> ubotu: exact answer -- thanks
[12:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, abhayks
[12:08] <kemik> batma8_:  linux a few years ago was horrible :)
[12:08] <batma8_> true
[12:09] <Xyc0> kemik: I beg to differ, but then Ubuntu wasn't here a few years ago :D
[12:09] <abhayks> kemik: Now it is the best
[12:09] <batma8_> its just hard to be sooo good at windows, then feelin like a tardy pie
[12:09] <selinium> How do you go about ripping in mp3?
[12:09] <kemik> Xyc0:  well, it was great for servers, but i refused to use linux as a desktop OS 5 years ago
[12:09] <batma8_> the only reason i use windows now is media conversion and emulators
[12:09] <batma8_> gotta have my n64
[12:09] <Heijmen> anybody know how to install Verdana, Arial & Helvetica on Ubuntu?
[12:10] <Xyc0> batma8_: wiki.ubuntu.com, that site has alot of help to offer
[12:10] <batma8_> i just bookmarked that
[12:10] <batma8_> ehehhe
[12:10] <kemik> and google, just add "ubuntu" in the search ;)
[12:10] <Xyc0> batma8_: search that site from now on to see if you can answer yourself
[12:10] <kemik> ubuntuforums is nice
[12:10] <batma8_> wiiiiiiiiiil doo
[12:10] <topyli> i copied ~/.local/share/applications to another user's home dir but that didn't suffice. her menu didn't change
[12:11] <Seveas> topyli, you need to restart the menu
[12:11] <Xyc0> topyli: suso apt-get install smeg
[12:11] <Xyc0> sudo apt-get install smeg*
[12:11] <Xyc0> sorry
[12:11] <Xyc0> typo
[12:12] <Yagisan> Heijmen: apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:12] <topyli> Seveas: the user was not logged in when i copied, i just logged in to the account in xnest now, so the menu should be fresh
[12:12] <Heijmen> yagisan: thanxxx
[12:12] <Cayne> nice
[12:12] <Seveas> topyli, ehm, yeah...
[12:12] <Xyc0> topyli: you also need to restart gnome-panel
[12:12] <Seveas> odd..
[12:12] <BeatYou> Feedback?: http://dev.clsafety.com/test.php </notspam>
[12:13] <Amaranth> topyli: ~/.local/share/desktop-directories/ and ~/.config/menus/applications.menu
[12:13] <Seveas> BeatYou, July 38 ?!?
[12:13] <Amaranth> topyli: and the restart gnome-panel to see updates thing is fixed in breezy
[12:13] <Xyc0> BeatYou: yes it was
[12:13] <topyli> Seveas: ah. i seem to have copied all the .desktop files to her .local/share instead of .local/share/applications :)
[12:13] <Seveas> BeatYou, and it's off-topic here so stop it
[12:13] <Seveas> topyli, that would explain :)
[12:14] <BeatYou> Seveas i also <3 ubuntu
[12:14] <Xyc0> BeatYou: that changes the fact that was Spam?
[12:14] <BeatYou> its not spam haha that site isn't even live, it cna't sell you anything
[12:14] <Amaranth> BeatYou: It's spam and off-topic.
[12:14] <Xyc0> Spam doesn't nessisarily mean ads
[12:15] <Seveas> BeatYou, this is not a help-me-with-my-html channel....
[12:15] <Seveas> but anyway: apart from the moving text in the links at the top it looked nice
[12:15] <kemik> Seveas:  and idea how to use debians network drivers instead of ubuntus? seems that the ubuntu drivers dont work aswell as the debian here (a really weird error)
[12:15] <BeatYou> Seveas its xhtml
[12:15] <Amaranth> BeatYou: Links that are irrelevant to the topic and/or current line of discussion are spam.
[12:15] <abhayks> do we really have to say RTFM
[12:15] <BeatYou> Amaranth: thanks for defining that, ive only been using the internet 5 years, i really need you to clear that up for me
[12:15] <Seveas> kemik, that would be odd
[12:16] <Amaranth> BeatYou: Careful.
[12:16] <ablyss> everybody chill
[12:16] <Seveas> BeatYou, you're on wafer thin ice there....
[12:16] <ablyss> it's Friday.. now let's all do something fun :)
[12:16] <kemik> Seveas:  well, with ubuntu drivers i can start downloads, but they suddenly timeout (i get some wicked speeds to > 3mb/s, so im guessing the ISP strangles my threads as im supposed to have a 10mbit connection...)
[12:16] <joachim> is there anything more forceful that umount?
[12:16] <BeatYou> ut oh
[12:16] <joachim> or a way of finding which processes are using the drive?
[12:17] <Seveas> kemik, hmm...
[12:17] <Seveas> joachim, lsof | grep /mount/point
[12:17] <Seveas> probably it's gam_server :)
[12:17] <Amaranth> Seveas: why not lsof /mount/point ?
[12:18] <kemik> Seveas:  maybe i should file a bugreport? (all works well in both debian and windows)
[12:18] <Seveas> Amaranth, because I always forget that possibility :)
[12:18] <Seveas> kemik, please do when you have enough info about it
[12:18] <Xyc0> ha ha, 5 years and he thought </notspam> helps?
[12:18] <kemik> thing is, im not sure how to get more info :/
[12:18] <Amaranth> Xyc0: Please don't.
[12:18] <abhayks> lsof  /mount/point works .
[12:19] <Xyc0> Amaranth: im sorry?
[12:19] <Amaranth> my requests probably sound less godly without that on
[12:19] <joachim> what's gam_serve?
[12:19] <Amaranth> joachim: *groan*
[12:19] <Xyc0> Amaranth: I didn't know what you were referring to
[12:19] <Seveas> joachim, it's gamin - the thing that monitors file changes
[12:20] <Amaranth> joachim: some program told gamin to watch files in that mount point
[12:20] <Amaranth> Xyc0: Don't keep the flame going.
[12:20] <joachim> oh. any way to tell it to stop?
 ha ha, 5 years and he thought </notspam> helps? <-- that, it's not really polite to say that, even though he's gone
[12:20] <Seveas> joachim, sudo pkill gam_server
[12:21] <Xyc0> Sorry, just an after thought
[12:21] <joachim> thanks :)
[12:23] <selinium> How do you go about ripping music in mp3?
[12:24] <rendi> doe anyone know what editor for *.mdb ??
[12:24] <deFrysk> selinium, I use grip
[12:24] <subterrific> selinium: first you need to enable the universe repository
[12:24] <joachim> does anyone here use gparted?
[12:24] <selinium> Cheers guys
[12:25] <selinium> joachim yep
[12:25] <Tzi> Hi! =)
[12:25] <abhayks> rendi: I understand .mdb is M$ Access file
[12:25] <joachim> what do the icons mean next to the partition names?
[12:25] <subterrific> selinium: then you want to install the gstreamer0.8-lame package
[12:25] <rendi> yeah abhayks
[12:25] <joachim> I have a warning triangle next to several
[12:25] <rendi> any tool for viewer ?
[12:25] <selinium> subteffific: I already have
[12:25] <selinium> subterrific: I already have*
[12:26] <Tzi> I'm being masochistic and using Breezy... Does anyone know if there's an obvious reason why my usb mass storage devices don't show up?  They're definitely getting registered in the system, dmesg shows the devices being bound to sda
[12:26] <rendi> i don't wanna switch to M$
[12:26] <selinium> subterrific: Then instal grip?
[12:26] <abhayks> Let me look for some tool that can convert mdb to mysql data
[12:27] <zAo^> Tzi, there is a bug in the latest kernel: my DVD is gone too
[12:27] <Tzi> zAo^: Oh, damn =)
[12:27] <rendi> OOo can ??
[12:27] <Tzi> zAo^: What've you done?
[12:27] <zAo^> Tzi, I filed a bug.
[12:27] <subterrific> selinium: i was going to say then you can use Sound Juicer, but i forgot the version in Hoary only does OGG, WAV, and FLAC
[12:27] <abhayks> OO does not have a database server
[12:27] <zAo^> Tzi, I work without my DVD players :)
[12:27] <subterrific> selinium: grip will do though
[12:28] <rendi> doh
[12:28] <rendi> see this forum
[12:28] <rendi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40575&highlight=ms+access
[12:28] <selinium> subterrific: lol, it is a shame, i don't want to install different apps for the 'same' purpose. Oh well! :)
[12:29] <selinium> jaochim: I am just having a look at mine...
[12:29] <joachim> thanks :)
[12:30] <selinium> jaochim: may take some time I am creating an iso from a dvd. It is trying to look at that drive....
[12:31] <abhayks> rendi: this form clearly gives you the answer
[12:31] <rendi> it mean OO can ?
[12:31] <abhayks> rendi: then why u asked this question ?
[12:31] <rendi> if can i'll download it
[12:31] <rendi> i'm not sure
[12:32] <jtan325> what's the easiest way to install fonts on a system-wide level?
[12:32] <abhayks> rendi: it says that "Base" can
[12:35] <rendi> mm
[12:35] <abhayks> rendi: However, it can import spreadsheet files. So, what I did is from within MSAccess I exported the database to MSExcel. Then I was able to import the Excel spreadsheet into Base and save the database.
[12:35] <rendi> let me try
[12:35] <subterrific> selinium: actually, are you sure sound juicer won't let you rip to mp3 with the lame gst plugin installed?
[12:35] <LinuxDolt> blargh.  what locale does Shift-JIS equate to?
[12:35] <subterrific> selinium: i just checked and i don't have lame installed, so that might be why it wasn't in the preferences for me, hehe
[12:35] <Positron> when i load de win drivers of my wifi card from ndiswrapper, everything works (hardware present, driver present) ; when i put the command 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' it tolds me FATAL : Module ndiswrapper not found
[12:35] <subterrific> selinium: http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/99-MP3-encoding-with-Sound-Juicer.html
[12:36] <Tzi> zAo^: Haha =) I see - Suppose this is what we get for living on the edge ;)
[12:36] <DaZjorz> hello
[12:36] <DaZjorz> No, i haven't install Ubuntu yet, xP
[12:36] <znh> hmm, is it true that the mbr is "Master boot partion", so that it's the boot partition on the disk wich has the master jumper
[12:36] <DaZjorz> i forgot i had to transfer some files off my pc
[12:36] <DaZjorz> and they are quit big
[12:36] <joachim> oh crap my display is going crazy again
[12:36] <DaZjorz> znh: ..
[12:36] <DaZjorz> znh: MBR: Master Boot Record
[12:37] <selinium> subterrific: I did check the prefs, but i will have a go at the help on that page. CHeers
[12:37] <znh> almost then
[12:37] <joachim> could someone take a look at the thread I posted in the support forum please? does it look like a driver problem or hardware?
[12:37] <DaZjorz> znh: Master Boot Record can be on every disk, even slaves
[12:37] <DaZjorz> znh: it has partitioning, etc stuff in it,
[12:38] <DaZjorz> also an `active` option for 1 partition, which means, the partition that boots
[12:38] <DaZjorz> the bios reads that
[12:38] <zAo^> Tzi, yup :) I want to watch a DVD but... :)
[12:38] <joachim> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54192
[12:38] <DaZjorz> Dammit
[12:39] <jtan325> how do i install fonts in ubuntu?
[12:39] <crashd> jtan325: check the wiki
[12:39] <Tzi> Working software is for the weak!  The weak, dammit
[12:39] <DaZjorz> I have met 3 joachims / joakims in the last week :S
[12:39] <crashd> msstcorefonts
[12:39] <zAo^> jtan325, apt-cache search fonts ???
[12:39] <Despeeh> gsfonts
[12:39] <DaZjorz> HydraIRC ?
[12:39] <joachim> DaZjorz, I never meet any. quite rare in the EK
[12:39] <DaZjorz> hm...
[12:39] <joachim> UK I mean
[12:39] <jtan325> !wiki
[12:39] <LinuxDolt> errr...
[12:39] <DaZjorz> Joachim: I met one on vacation, he was named Joakim and came from Denmark
[12:39] <jtan325> !wiki font
[12:39] <jtan325> !wiki fonts
[12:40] <DaZjorz> Joachim: And one was you
[12:40] <DaZjorz> Joachim: And I also saw one in a magazine
[12:40] <DaZjorz> :S
[12:40] <DaZjorz> in an ad, by the way xP
[12:40] <DaZjorz> Hello Joachim, blabla university stuff, if you have any other questions, blabla, then some name
[12:41] <DaZjorz> I still have to wait about 2 hours untill all files are transferred to the server..
[12:41] <DaZjorz> Then i can install Ubuntu. -,-
[12:42] <DaZjorz> mehh.
[12:43] <DaZjorz> i gotta transfer 6 big files.
[12:43] <DaZjorz> 68% | 62% | 32% | 28% | 27% | 20%
[12:43] <DVSoftware> any idea how to setup volume control buttons on my notebook in kde
[12:44] <joachim> gonna have to reboot.... my display is totally unusable now :(
[12:44] <DVSoftware> it was easy in gnome
[12:44] <BTJustice> How can I make a GRUB boot floppy in Windows XP?
[12:44] <DVSoftware> but kde seems to not recognize keycodes
[12:45] <jtan325> crashd, so do i create my own folder in /usr/share
[12:45] <jtan325> if i want to do it on a system wide level
[12:45] <jtan325> or do i just dump them into /usr/share/fonts
[12:46] <DaZjorz> I really like the fact that Ubuntu shares free CD's
[12:46] <DaZjorz> it made me like Ubuntu a lot
[12:46] <DaZjorz> because I didn't have to download Ubuntu and leave my PC on(line), etc etc
[12:46] <DaZjorz> I don't have much problems with downloading
[12:47] <DaZjorz> and the delivery toke a lot of time because I live in the netherlands.....
[12:47] <DaZjorz> but the product I got was fantastic
[12:47] <DaZjorz> really
[12:47] <abhayks> anyont uses ion3 WM
[12:48] <abhayks> ?
[12:48] <DaZjorz> 74% | 68% | 36% | 32% | 31% | 24%
[12:48] <DaZjorz> whats that abhayks ?
[12:48] <milksteak> heh
[12:48] <milksteak> no new cds being shipped until breezy release right?
[12:48] <abhayks> a Window Manager based on PWM
[12:48] <PurpleMotion> as of when?
[12:48] <DaZjorz> Windows manager ?
[12:49] <PurpleMotion> cause i ordered my cd's like a month ago
[12:49] <BTJustice> I am trying to install Kubuntu which I was able to do.  During GGRUB it asked if I wanted to install it to MBR which I did.  Computer went straight to WIndows XP without and GRUB boot menu.  Will I need ot create a GRUN boot floppy?
[12:49] <abhayks> like Gnome/KDE
[12:49] <DaZjorz> PurpleMotion: It really takes time till you get then
[12:49] <DaZjorz> them*
[12:49] <PurpleMotion> DaZjorz:  someone said there was a freeze till breezy.. i wanna know as of when
[12:49] <BTJustice> My PC set has 2 SATA hard drives (C: & D:) and to regular IDE drives (E: & F:).  I installed Kubuntu to F:
[12:49] <Positron> what does it mean when i get "FATAL : Module ndiswrapper not found"
[12:50] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Install Ubuntu AFTER Windows and it will recognise Windows
[12:50] <DaZjorz> Positron: ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[12:50] <DaZjorz> i thought
[12:51] <DaZjorz> PurpleMotion: Don't know. Maybe look at the CD order page...
[12:51] <DaZjorz> But my browser just quit :S
[12:51] <PurpleMotion> oh well i was able to order mine so i guess theyre ont he way
[12:51] <PurpleMotion> i dont mind waiting at all
[12:51] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Thats Windows notice. In linux it is /dev/hd(a,b,c)(1,2,3)
[12:51] <PurpleMotion> i can download one and burn it if i need it :)
[12:51] <DaZjorz> Yea
[12:51] <DaZjorz> It toke like 1.5 months for me to get them too
[12:52] <BTJustice> I did.
[12:52] <BTJustice> WIndows XP was here first
[12:52] <BTJustice> On C:
[12:52] <rendi> hi i have installed oo2 but when i'm open it it say Details: Failed to execute child process "/opt/openoffice.org1.9.113/program/soffice" (No such file or directory)
[12:52] <lukas> where do i se if the ssh-server is upp ??
[12:52] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: /dev/hda1 you mean :P
[12:52] <rendi> can help me Sir
[12:52] <PurpleMotion> telnet localhost 22
[12:52] <zAo^> rendi, installed ervery oo pkg??
[12:52] <BTJustice> I have no idea.  I can;t boot into Linux
[12:52] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Erm
[12:52] <Seveas> lukas, ps aux | grep sshd
[12:53] <lukas> ahha
[12:53] <lukas> thanks
[12:53] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: I think the partitioning says that /dev/hda1 is active. That means that it boots with that
[12:53] <PurpleMotion> its because your c drive is serialata and you need 2.6.11 for support
[12:53] <rendi> i'm donload it from http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/11
[12:53] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: And, you installed GRUB on the MBR on a different drive then number 1
[12:53] <BTJustice> OK, if I reinstall Kubuntu again.  What should I do?
[12:53] <BTJustice> Should I reinstall Kubuntu?
[12:53] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Maybe... Let me think ...
[12:54] <zAo^> why not install grub in MBR?
[12:54] <DaZjorz> Zao: Because he's installing in another hard disk
[12:54] <DaZjorz> not hda
[12:54] <BTJustice> I did.  It found WIndows XP Pro and asked if I wanted to install GRUB to MBR which I did.
[12:54] <PurpleMotion> is linux even seeing his sata drives?
[12:54] <zAo^> so? my ubuntu is on hdb2
[12:54] <PurpleMotion> i know the box is, but is linux?
[12:54] <BTJustice> I think it is the fact my Windows XP is installed on SATA drive.
[12:54] <lukas> is there a firewall or somting upp by default ?
[12:54] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Try to install GRUB to the mbr on hda
[12:54] <PurpleMotion> zAo^:  but your bootloader is on /dev/hda int he mbr
[12:55] <zAo^> correct
[12:55] <BTJustice> Purple:  It did see them when it asked my waht drive I wanted to use
[12:55] <lukas> i cannt ssh on the lan to this machine
[12:55] <rendi> can help me sir ....
[12:55] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Try to install your bootloader to the MBR of /dev/hda
[12:55] <zAo^> lukas, error msg?
[12:55] <lukas> is there a fw in my way in some kind ?
[12:55] <BTJustice> How do I do that?
[12:55] <PurpleMotion> BTJustice:  i think it is the fact that 2.6.10 kernel doesnt SEE your sata drive, so it can't exactly write a bootloader to it
[12:55] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: If that doesnt work then, try to boot your PC with some rescue system and turn the active flag of the Windows partition off
[12:55] <lukas> zAo^:  where do i find that ??
[12:55] <zAo^> lukas, is sshd up? (ps -ef | grep sshd)
[12:56] <DaZjorz> PurpleMotion: Ofcourse it can, otherwise it couldnt even install xP
[12:56] <joachim> bye :)
[12:56] <rendi>  zAo^ help me for this ... Cannot launch entry
[12:56] <rendi> Details: Failed to execute child process "/opt/openoffice.org1.9.113/program/soffice" (No such file or directory)
[12:56] <DaZjorz> Rendi
[12:56] <lukas> zAo^:  yes its upp
[12:56] <rendi> i'm instal from http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/11
[12:56] <DaZjorz> Try to reinstall OpenOffice
[12:56] <PurpleMotion> DaZjorz:  xp can see it. i heard 2.6.10 doesn't recognize like 70% of sata systems
[12:56] <BTJustice> Now wait a minute.  I if I reinstall Kubuntu, can I create a GRUB floppy to boot Kubuntu during the install?
[12:56] <zAo^> rendi, did you install by using apt/synaptic?
[12:56] <rendi> reinstall
[12:56] <rendi> mm okay
[12:56] <rendi> not
[12:56] <rendi> sh
[12:57] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Try the expert install
[12:57] <tomasek> hiho
[12:57] <DaZjorz> you get a question where to install LILO/GRUB
[12:57] <DaZjorz> Try a disk, or if that doesn't work the /dev/hda MBR
[12:57] <DaZjorz> ok ?
[12:57] <zAo^> BTJustice, or use Breezys kernel (2.6.12)
[12:57] <BTJustice> OK, now was anything written to the MBR?
[12:57] <BTJustice> Since GRUB isn;t working?
[12:57] <twilight> rendi..if you speak a few italian, see my doc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianInstallazioneOpenOffice1.9.113
[12:57] <DaZjorz> Rendi: Try to go to /opt and see if there is a folder of openoffice thats named something else. Then try to make a symlink.
[12:57] <tomasek> can someone give me personal answers due my problems on priv?
[12:57] <DaZjorz> Romasek: Problems ?
[12:57] <twilight> if not, there are deb packages at the end of the page
[12:57] <tomasek> yes
[12:57] <zAo^> tomasek, on what?
[12:58] <DaZjorz> Tomasek: Don't just say 'yes' xP I asked for your problems
[12:58] <DaZjorz> :P
[12:58] <tomasek> i downloaded iso install disk
[12:58] <lukas> zAo^:  where do i find the error msgs ??
[12:58] <DaZjorz> Yes
[12:58] <zAo^> lukas, you said you cant connect: do you just get a timeout?
[12:58] <topyli> weirdness! i swear, copying .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications to another user doesn't work
[12:58] <BTJustice> OK, now was anything written to the MBR?  Since GRUB isn't working?
[12:58] <znh> I've put another harddisk in my computer, what device is my second harddisk?
[12:59] <lukas> zAo^:  yes ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.121 port 22: Connection timed out
[12:59] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Try to reinstall Kubuntu as mode 'expert' when you boot.
[12:59] <zAo^> lukas, did `sudo apt-get install openssh-server` ?
[12:59] <DaZjorz> Lukas: Try telnet 192.168.1.121 22
[12:59] <tomasek> ;/
[12:59] <lukas> zAo^:  yes
[12:59] <znh> DaZjorz: raw ssh is hard :-P
[12:59] <zAo^> lukas, `/etc/init.d/sshd start` ??
[01:00] <BTJustice> DaZjorz: Was anything written to the MBR?  Since GRUB isn't working?
[01:00] <DaZjorz> znh: I know, but its trying of the ssh is online
[01:00] <tomasek> who help me?!?!
[01:00] <zAo^> tomasek, what is the prob??
[01:00] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: If you run the installation CD with 'expert'mode
[01:00] <DaZjorz> Tomasek
[01:00] <DaZjorz> Private
[01:00] <tomasek> how can i boot cd
[01:00] <tomasek> with linux
[01:00] <rendi> DaZjorz i'm go to folder /opt and can't see oo sit there and now how to make symlink ???
[01:00] <DaZjorz> Tomasek: Privated
[01:00] <BTJustice> Because of SATA, I had to install using "boot: linux pci=noacpi"
[01:00] <zAo^> thnx DaZjorz
[01:00] <DaZjorz> Rendi: There is nothing in that dir ?
[01:00] <rendi> nothing
[01:00] <rendi> blank
[01:00] <DaZjorz> BTJustice: Try boot: expert pci=noacpi
[01:00] <zAo^> lukas, did you do a `sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start` ??
[01:00] <BTJustice> ok, thanks
[01:00] <DaZjorz> Rendi: Install OpenOffice
[01:01] <rendi> i have already install it
[01:01] <DaZjorz> Rendi: Where
[01:01] <lukas> zAo^:  it says there is no such dir :/
[01:01] <rendi> from i first instal ubuntu oo in myu pc
[01:02] <zAo^> lukas, sorry. `sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start`
[01:02] <DaZjorz> Rendi: Retry install...
[01:02] <DaZjorz> maybe that works?
[01:02] <topyli> rendi: you installed the ubuntu OOo packages?
[01:02] <rendi> 1 hours dude
[01:02] <lukas> yes but i do it in a root terminal :/
[01:02] <zAo^> why dont you use the ubuntu pkgs??
[01:02] <rendi> my conection sucks
[01:02] <zAo^> lukas, you need to do it as root/sudo
[01:02] <lukas> k
[01:02] <DaZjorz> Lukas & zAo: its sshd not ssh
[01:03] <rendi> i'm try reinstall now
[01:03] <zAo^> DaZjorz, I thought so to, but it is ssh!
[01:03] <DaZjorz> really ?
[01:03] <DaZjorz> no
[01:03] <DaZjorz> the program is called sshd
[01:03] <lukas> zAo^:  wtf hmm
[01:03] <DaZjorz> anderm
[01:03] <DaZjorz> i think its not in /etc/init.d
[01:03] <DaZjorz> i thought it was in /bin or something
[01:03] <DaZjorz> . /bin/sshd
[01:03] <DaZjorz> or something
[01:04] <zAo^> DaZjorz, I know; its a daemon, but the startscript is called SSH
[01:04] <DaZjorz> not sure about that
[01:04] <DaZjorz> let me look
[01:04] <lukas> zAo^: i cant star the ssh :/
[01:04] <DaZjorz> ...
[01:04] <zAo^> lukas, why?
[01:04] <DaZjorz> zao, lukas, wait a sec, i'll look it up
[01:04] <dv__> hi
[01:04] <lukas> zAo^:  it was allready on :7
[01:04] <jowi> /usr/sbin/sshd
[01:04] <zAo^> lukas, then theres a network problem I think..
[01:04] <dv__> is it very problematic to recompile a kernel with ubuntu,
[01:04] <lukas> ok
[01:05] <zAo^> lukas, try: `ssh localhost`
[01:05] <jowi> start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:05] <dv__> that is does it break the system if one doesnt use the ubuntu kernel?
[01:05] <lukas> zAo^:  that works
[01:05] <zAo^> lukas, then there's a network problem (router??)
[01:05] <lukas> i cant telenet  :(
[01:05] <lukas> yeah
[01:05] <lukas> and i dont hawe axxec to the router
[01:05] <zAo^> lukas, can you ping from the remote machine?
[01:06] <lukas> zAo^: yes
[01:06] <cbr> is there no alsaconf in ubuntu?
[01:06] <jowi> lukas, how do you try to connect to the remote machine?
[01:06] <zAo^> lukas, can I try to connect to your IP?
[01:07] <lukas> jowi:  shh user@ip -p blabla
[01:07] <lukas> zAo^:  well i think it is the router
[01:07] <DaZjorz> lukas: Is the remote machine Linux or Windows
[01:07] <lukas> hmma
[01:07] <lukas> netbsd
[01:07] <DaZjorz> ah
[01:08] <jowi> lukas, skip the -p part and you should be queried for the password (if the remote machine has a ssh server active that accepts connections)
[01:08] <dv__> no problems? :)
[01:08] <zAo^> just try `ssh -l USER IP`
[01:08] <lukas> james:  hmm nice one
[01:09] <supernix> anyone here familiar with firestarter ?
[01:09] <lukas> jowi: even
[01:09] <jowi> :-)
[01:09] <DaZjorz> lukas: Try this
[01:09] <lukas> jowi:  heh it hates me :/
[01:09] <DaZjorz> on the local machine
[01:09] <DaZjorz> ssh -l USER 127.0.0.1
[01:09] <DaZjorz> if that does work
[01:09] <DaZjorz> then its the router
[01:09] <cbr> is there no alsaconf in ubuntu?
[01:09] <znh> hmm, I can hardly choose between ext3 and reiserfs..
[01:09] <jowi> lukas, nah. but maybe your router is blocking port 22
[01:10] <DaZjorz> otherwise its the local pc
[01:10] <lukas> DaZjorz:  it worked
[01:10] <zenwhen> i use reiser
[01:10] <zenwhen> never had a probelm with it, and it is faster
[01:11] <znh> yea, but I heard that ext3 is more stable
[01:11] <lukas> jowi:  well i hawe put the port 5222 in the conf :/
[01:11] <znh> never had a unstable reiserfs anyways
[01:11] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[01:11] <suma> hey is this the right place to ask newbie questions?
[01:11] <znh> suma: yes, don't try #debian - they only make suggest you "RTFM"
[01:12] <tegan> I have a usb harddrive, (fat32) that's getting mounted with a umask of 077 (unhelpful to say the least)  I have no entry in /etc/fstab for it, and it's all working quite nicely
[01:12] <jowi> lukas, have you told your client that? ssh user@ip -D port
[01:13] <lukas> jowi:  -p 5222 isnt it ?
[01:13] <tegan> I know I can add an entry for the drive in fstab for it, but then it won't work for any other drives I add, does anyone know if I can change the defaults that the hotplug/automounter is using?
[01:13] <suma> cool well could anybody tell me how to get an authentication key for repository?
[01:14] <znh> suma: you don't need one, the files should have a key.. if they don't it's stil save (when you are using default reps.)
[01:14] <dv__> right now I'm deciding if I should switch to ubuntu
[01:14] <jowi> lukas, you are right. messed up
[01:14] <suma> no im using backport reps
[01:14] <znh> dv__: what had you have before
[01:14] <dv__> I have been using debian unstable, but this is totally broken now
[01:14] <znh> suma: I don't recommend backports
[01:14] <DaZjorz> lukas: If you can connect to local PC from Local and not from Remote
[01:14] <dv__> I still couldnt get kde to work,
[01:14] <dv__> gnome neither
[01:14] <znh> dv__: ubuntu is way better then debian unstable
[01:14] <dv__> now, ubuntu seems sweet
[01:14] <crashd> ubuntu is way better than debian.
[01:14] <suma> really why? i heard that's the only place to get mp3 codecs and the like
[01:15] <DaZjorz> lukas: then it must be the router. Try to turn the local firewall off. Does it work then ?
[01:15] <dv__> but, am I restricted to the precompiled kernel and gnome/kde?
[01:15] <dv__> since my laptop has some weird hw I have to configure the kernel on my own
[01:15] <tegan> marillat and backports both have potential for damage suma
[01:15] <Seveas> you can easily tweak the Ubuntu kernel
[01:15] <dv__> cool
[01:15] <Seveas> and Ubuntu has xfce, fluxbox, windowmaker,...
[01:15] <Seveas> dv__: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:15] <dv__> because, for example suse gets broken if one tampers with the kernel
[01:15] <znh> yea, I'm glad gnome is not burned in
[01:15] <suma> yes that's why i thought i would get a key so the software could be authenticated
[01:16] <Seveas> dv__, best is to follow these instructions and take the Ubuntu sources
[01:16] <dv__> does ubuntu use alsa as default?
[01:16] <dv__> k
[01:16] <Seveas> and just tweak what you need :)
[01:16] <znh> suma: you have to wait before the packages in backports become default, they they would get a 'key'
[01:16] <Seveas> ubuntun uses esd on top of alsa by default
[01:16] <dv__> you know, this system needs to load the fglrx driver *before* the sis-agp
[01:16] <Seveas> in the next version esd will be ditched again
[01:16] <dv__> else the agp does not work
[01:16] <dv__> etc.
[01:16] <dv__> a somewhat weird sys
[01:17] <Seveas> dv__, that requires no kernel compilation
[01:17] <znh> dv__: fglrx is always a whore
[01:17] <LinuxDolt> what ubuntu does is use an emulated oss beneath alsa beneath esd
[01:17] <Seveas> just add fglrx to the top of /etc/modules :)(
[01:17] <dv__> but sis-agp isnt compiled
[01:17] <dv__> is it?
[01:17] <Seveas> lemme checlk
[01:17] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ slocate sis-agp
[01:17] <Seveas> /home/dennis/temp/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/drivers/char/agp/sis-agp.c
[01:17] <Seveas> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/sis-agp.ko
[01:17] <znh> lol my brother downloaded ubuntu from some 3rd party bittorrent site.. It was even more unstable then windows xD
[01:17] <suma> ahh well what do you recommend i do for the "lame" package. i heard it will never become default because of copyright issues.
[01:17] <DaZjorz> The transfer is still not finished....
[01:17] <Seveas> it is :)
[01:18] <DaZjorz> 100% | 100% | 72% | 63% | 68% | 58%
[01:18] <tegan> so anyone know how to change the default settings the default automounter is using?
[01:18] <znh> suma: what are you trying to play?
[01:18] <DaZjorz> Tegan: What do you want to tdo
[01:18] <Seveas> tegan, you mean the thing that mounts usb drives?
[01:18] <DaZjorz> Tegan: Not mount a partition at boot? Or something else?
[01:18] <suma> i have also managed to configure mp3 playback, im trying to enable mp3 ripping
[01:18] <tegan> my usb harddrive (which works just fine without any entries in fstab) gets the umask set to 077
[01:18] <suma> *replace "also" with "already"
[01:18] <znh> suma: from a stream?
[01:18] <Seveas> tegan, odd
[01:19] <tegan> I know :)
[01:19] <Seveas> is it a fat/ntfs drive?
[01:19] <lukas> where can i se if there is a failed connection ??
[01:19] <suma> znh: from a cd
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Tegan: Try to look for the parameters
[01:19] <Seveas> lukas, failed connection for what?
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Tegan: Maybe the USB driver is automounting it.
[01:19] <tegan> look for whose parameters where?
[01:19] <lukas> im trying to ssh
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Lukas:
[01:19] <Seveas> DaZjorz, no, that's done by pmount+hal
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Tegan: mount --help
[01:19] <znh> does anyone know some application that monitors harddisk activity?
[01:19] <Seveas> DaZjorz, that does not help
[01:19] <DaZjorz> Lukas: Try to turn your firewall off
[01:20] <Seveas> tegan, is it a fat/ntfs drive?
[01:20] <lukas> hmm
[01:20] <DVSoftware> znh, gkrellm
[01:20] <DaZjorz> Lukas: Its obvious that the SSH is working, but the remote SSH isn't
[01:20] <lukas> is there a fw on by deafault
[01:20] <tegan> daz: I know how to mount it, (it's fat) and I know that I can just add an entry in fstab for it, and it will go away
[01:20] <dv__> argh.
[01:20] <Seveas> lukas, do you try to SSH to your machine?
[01:20] <dv__> i hate disconnects.
[01:20] <tegan> but then it will happen again for any other usb drives
[01:20] <DaZjorz> Lukas: So there must be something wrong between your local and remote pc
[01:20] <DaZjorz> Seveas: Yes he did
[01:20] <znh> DVSoftware: yea, but I hate all those moving krellms
[01:20] <tegan> and I really don't want to have to go adding fstab entries for everything
[01:20] <DaZjorz> Seveas: And local SSH is working, but remote isn't.
[01:20] <tegan> sort of defeats the purpose of hotplug
[01:20] <Seveas> hmm ok
[01:20] <DaZjorz> Lukas: Are both pc's in the same network ?
[01:20] <Seveas> behind NAT?
 just add fglrx to the top of /etc/modules :)( <- last line I got
[01:21] <lukas> DaZjorz:  yes
[01:21] <Seveas> dv__, ah
[01:21] <znh> -- changing computer -- brb
[01:21] <DaZjorz> Lukas: Does pinging work ?
[01:21] <Seveas> dv__, well good news: sis-agp is compiled
[01:21] <lukas> DaZjorz:  yes
[01:21] <dv__> fine
[01:21] <dv__> very fine
[01:21] <DVSoftware> znh, turn off krellms that you don't need
[01:21] <dv__> and powernow is included?
[01:21] <Seveas> yup
[01:21] <dv__> good
[01:21] <dv__> else my laptop would constantly run at 100% cpu :)
[01:21] <DaZjorz> lukas: Does your local pc, remote pc or router have a firewall?
[01:21] <Seveas> dv__, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/970
[01:21] <Seveas> that's the complete .config
[01:22] <dv__> hmm.
[01:22] <lukas> DaZjorz:  the netbsd server has a firewall i think
[01:22] <dv__> ok, the crucial stuff is there
[01:22] <dv__> i think I can install ubuntu without any trouble
[01:22] <DaZjorz> lukas: Try to turn it off, if it works then, turn it on and add a rule for port 22
[01:22] <lukas> DaZjorz:  i hawe no axx to root on that one or xxes to the router man this is fucking cracy :/
[01:24] <DaZjorz> lukas: No root access to the local PC ?
[01:24] <DaZjorz> how do you have SSH then
[01:24] <DaZjorz> i mean
[01:24] <DaZjorz> who gave you SSH access
[01:24] <DaZjorz> if you have no root access, then someone else must have
[01:24] <DaZjorz> you can't give SSH access to yourself
[01:24] <lukas> on the local yes but not on the netbsd one :/
[01:24] <Seveas> lukas, ssh kaarsemaker.net
[01:24] <Seveas> does that timeout?
[01:24] <DaZjorz> Administrateur? O.o lol
[01:24] <zAo^> :)
[01:24] <znh> must be frence
[01:24] <DaZjorz> yeah
[01:25] <DaZjorz> french
[01:25] <dv__> ubuntu didn't switch to gcc4 yet, right?
[01:25] <DaZjorz> a french administrator
[01:25] <znh> lol I can't even spell french :-P
[01:25] <znh> i...  just did :-
[01:25] <suma> znh: i get the idea now... software from the backports is not signed by ubuntu and so might be a trojan... well i'd like to avoid being owned, so i think i'll avoid downloading --- thanks for help
[01:25] <Seveas> dv__, in the development verion gcc4 is the default for anything but the kernel
[01:25] <jtgameover> does anyone here know anything about installing fonts in ubuntu?
[01:25] <dv__> because the ati drivers do not support gcc4
[01:26] <Mez> suma, I can assure you you wont be "owned"
[01:26] <Stormx> Uh
[01:26] <lukas> Seveas: works :9
[01:26] <cloudreader> gcc4? you are running breezy?
[01:26] <Seveas> dv__, fglrx will not work in the next version since Ubuntu switches to X11R7 and fglrx has no driver for that...
[01:26] <Stormx> Really needing root permissions to a mounted hdd......
[01:26] <znh> Mez: he might mean the gamer explaination
[01:26] <Mez> suma, we're looking into getting the old repository signed
[01:26] <DaZjorz> Lukas: Lets see
[01:26] <Seveas> lukas, ok, so you can rule out problems on your machine
[01:26] <dv__> oh wonderful
[01:26] <Mez> suma: and the official backports is signed
[01:26] <Seveas> kick the administrator of the netbsd machine
[01:26] <DaZjorz> Lukas: You can SSH to local. Remote can SSH to outside network. Remote can't SSH to local.
[01:26] <lukas> Seveas:  yes i know :)
[01:26] <znh> adminstrateur :-P
[01:27] <dv__> lets hope it doesnt take too long before ati releases a new version
[01:27] <DaZjorz> So the problem must be at local
[01:27] <Seveas> dv__, indeed
[01:27] <suma> really? how come when i try to download gstreamer0.8-lame it says it's not signed
[01:27] <lukas> DaZjorz:  im sshing from a server on the local lan
[01:27] <DaZjorz> lukas: Problem must be at local. Try to turn off firewall
[01:27] <dv__> are there similar binary problems with nvidia drivers?
[01:27] <znh> dv__: start hopeing that you buy a nvidia card
[01:27] <tegan> so I take it knowone knows where hotplug's default umasks are coming from?
[01:27] <DaZjorz> lukas: huh ?
[01:27] <dv__> znh, in a *laptop*?
[01:27] <Stormx> Yo, how do I get root permissions for /mnt/windows/?
[01:27] <znh> dv__: sure
[01:27] <dv__> i have an nvidia card in the PC
[01:27] <Seveas> dv__, afaik yes but i'm not sure...
[01:27] <zAo^> Stormx, sudo -s
[01:27] <lukas> DaZjorz:  i think its all fucked here hehehr
[01:27] <dv__> but I can't exchange the laptop graphics chipset :P
[01:27] <Seveas> Stormx, your talking nonsense :)
[01:27] <topyli> Seveas: ok, the user's home dir must be pretty screwed. no menu changes succeed, i even used smeg logged in as her
[01:27] <znh> dv__: awwww.. then buy a new laptop :-P
[01:28] <DaZjorz> Lukas: The problem is that nobody can SSH to the SSH server (local)
[01:28] <mjr> Seveas, hmh, given that, it would be even nicer if the r300 driver made it in... But can't have everything, I suppose.
[01:28] <DaZjorz> the SSH server must have a firewall
[01:28] <Seveas> Stormx, you mean *write* permissions i guess
[01:28] <DaZjorz> try to turn it off or add a rule
[01:28] <DaZjorz> in any way
[01:28] <Amaranth> topyli: you need to restart gnome-panel after making a change
[01:28] <DaZjorz> or ask the administrator of that machine
[01:28] <dv__> znh, gimme the money :)
[01:28] <topyli> Amaranth: i did, yes
[01:28] <zAo^> Stormx, is it a NTFS drive?
[01:28] <dv__> then I'll buy an IBM thinkpad with nvidia chip
[01:28] <dv__> :D
[01:28] <XIII> i need help with settin up real player
[01:28] <lukas> DaZjorz:  not local and from outside
[01:28] <XIII> i set it up
[01:28] <Amaranth> topyli: you installed the gnome-menus 2.10.2 packages?
[01:29] <XIII> but after that it gave me that message when i tried to run it
[01:29] <XIII> Details: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)
[01:29] <suma> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net ... is that the official backports? do you experienced users find software from there to be safe?
[01:29] <Seveas> suma, use only hoary-extras from that repository
[01:29] <Seveas> suma, hoary-backports can be grabbed from archive.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <Mez> suma: It is safe... but, ofifcial is safer
[01:29] <XIII> also this message : Could not find 'realplay'
[01:29] <topyli> Amaranth: i seem to have 2.10.1 from backports
[01:29] <topyli> Amaranth: 2.10.2
[01:30] <Seveas> XIII: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[01:30] <Cayne> glibc 2.3.4 is this available with ubuntu?
[01:30] <Seveas> XIII, follow these instructions for properly installing realplayer
[01:30] <ofer0> any one knows a good ftp program for ubuntu? not kbear and gftp. they are both annoying
[01:30] <Seveas> Cayne, no
[01:30] <suma> ok understood i will try to minimize the software i download from there... thanks for help guys igtg
[01:30] <Cayne> :(
[01:30] <cloudreader> can somebody dcc send me a save sources.list with backports?
[01:30] <Stormx> Hey sorry
[01:30] <topyli> Amaranth: is it b0rken? should i revert back to previous?
[01:30] <Amaranth> topyli: no idea then
[01:30] <zAo^> XIII, installed realplayer ?
[01:30] <Amaranth> topyli: no, you need 2.10.2
[01:30] <lukas> hmm
[01:30] <Seveas> cloudreader: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:30] <Stormx> I just did sudo nautlilus /mnt/windows/
[01:30] <XIII> ok Seveas
[01:30] <Amaranth> topyli: i don't support any user not using 2.10.2 :)
[01:30] <Seveas> Stormx, BAD IDEA
[01:31] <topyli> Amaranth: ok, i'll investigate :)
[01:31] <Seveas> close that nautilus ASAP before it screws up .ICEauthority
[01:31] <lukas> bhha
[01:31] <cloudreader> thanks seveas
[01:31] <Stormx> Seveas: How so.....
[01:31] <Stormx> Seveas: Its FAT
[01:31] <zAo^> lol ^^
[01:31] <Seveas> Stormx, the proper way to get read/write access to fat is by mounting it correctly
[01:32] <Seveas> add umask=0000 to the mount options
[01:32] <Stormx> Seveas: It is mounted correctly xD
[01:32] <Stormx> Oh fair enough
[01:32] <Seveas> and please immediately close that nautilus
[01:32] <Stormx> Four 0s, not three?
[01:32] <zAo^> Seveas, make that gid=1000,umask=0002 plz
[01:32] <Seveas> zAo^, makes no difference for most people ;)
[01:32] <Stormx> ^_^ I just fucked up my drive, didn't I
[01:32] <Seveas> Stormx, no
[01:32] <lukas> arrg
[01:33] <zAo^> Seveas, well :) I dont want everyone to have writeacces on the whole drive :)
[01:33] <DaZjorz> Lukas ? Contact the adminstrator and ask him to turn firewall off or add an access rule for port 22
[01:33] <DaZjorz> thats all you have to do
[01:33] <DaZjorz> i expect it to work then
[01:33] <lukas> DaZjorz:  i know
[01:33] <DaZjorz> *though i expect these things more...*
[01:33] <Stormx> Um. I got errors in terminal x.X
[01:33] <Seveas> but you might have f*ed up your login, if you have problems logging in the next time: login on the console and rm ~/.*authority
[01:33] <lukas> DaZjorz:  just that he is not there
[01:33] <Shish> If I have a bug that I'd think is an upstream GNOME thing (but I'm not entirely sure, and don't want to build a vanilla GNOME for myself to find out), should I post it in the GNOME or ubuntu bugzilla?
[01:33] <DaZjorz> lukas: Write it down :)
[01:33] <Seveas> Stormx, if you really want to do it properly, unmount the drive and remove it from fstab
[01:33] <Seveas> Stormx: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[01:34] <lukas> i will ;)
[01:34] <DaZjorz> lukas: Or call him. Since there is an SSH server running, he could probably do it remote.
[01:34] <Stormx> Seveas: Thanks
[01:34] <DaZjorz> lukas: Some people can even remote control their SSH server with their mobile
[01:34] <Seveas> zAo^, ^-- that script by default does the uid=1000,fmask=0133,dmask=0022 :)
[01:34] <lukas> hehe
[01:35] <zAo^> Seveas, nice :)
[01:35] <lukas> hmm brb fixxing some coffy
[01:35] <zAo^> is there a way to emulate AIX on my ubuntu machine?
[01:35] <topyli> DaZjorz: i do it all the time :)
[01:35] <ofer0> any one knows a good ftp program for ubuntu? not kbear and gftp. they are both annoying ?
[01:35] <Seveas> zAo^, why would you want to emulate a broken OS :)
[01:36] <Demian___> what is an easy program to convert flac to mp3?
[01:36] <Seveas> ofer0, places -> connect to server
[01:36] <Seveas> ofer0, or mc
[01:36] <ofer0> mc?
[01:36] <dv__> apart from the DE at the beginning,
[01:36] <ofer0> midnight commander?
[01:36] <Seveas> yup
[01:36] <dv__> does it matter if I choose ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:36] <ofer0> ok thanx Seveas
[01:36] <zAo^> Seveas, lol :) I work for a large bank a a AIX/SUN security officer; like to test some things without bying a RS/6000 ;)
[01:36] <ags06> what is the root password
[01:36] <Seveas> dv__, if you want gnome: Ubuntu, if you want KDE: kUbuntu
[01:36] <zAo^> dv__, do you like gnome?
[01:36] <Seveas> ags06, there is no root password
[01:37] <cloudreader> seveas: I created a new sources.list with the stuff you pointed me too and there are errors loading synaptic
[01:37] <dv__> yes, but I can get gnome if I installed kubuntu, and vice versa, right?
[01:37] <zAo^> dv__, right
[01:37] <Seveas> dv__, absolutely
[01:37] <dv__> I like to switch between them
[01:37] <Seveas> takes one command :)
[01:37] <Seveas> dv__, then install Ubuntu
[01:37] <dv__> sometimes kde, sometimes gnome, sometimes ion3
[01:37] <dv__> (what a contrast :) )
[01:37] <Seveas> and whrn it's installed: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <topyli> Demian___: Sound Converter: http://soundconverter.berlios.de/
[01:37] <dv__> hmmmm
[01:37] <dv__> k
[01:38] <Seveas> cloudreader, what's the error?
[01:38] <Seveas> DaZjorz, that is technically possible
[01:38] <cloudreader> seveas: I closed the window, let me restart synaptic
[01:38] <ags06> i just installed ubuntu
[01:38] <ags06> linux newbie
[01:39] <DaZjorz> And ?
[01:39] <Seveas> ags06, welcome aboard then :)
[01:39] <ags06> everything seems alright
[01:39] <kemik> ags06:  the root pass is usually the same as you default user
[01:39] <ags06> thanx
[01:39] <Demian___> topyli, thnx
[01:39] <Seveas> kemik, bull
[01:39] <DaZjorz> Join the group, ags06
[01:39] <tegan> kemik no it's not
[01:39] <Seveas> there is no root password
[01:39] <zAo^> ags06, take a look @ www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:39] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[01:39] <DaZjorz> Seveas: You know a good IRC program ?
[01:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[01:39] <tegan> sudo asks for _your_ oassword
[01:39] <zAo^> DaZjorz, Xchat ?
[01:39] <Seveas> ags06, do NOT look at ubuntuguide.org, try wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:39] <cloudreader> seveas: no errors anymore, I guess it complained about my having put a completely new sources.list
[01:40] <zAo^> Seveas,  :S
[01:40] <Seveas> cloudreader, hehe :)
[01:40] <kemik> tegan:  mmh thats true
[01:40] <DaZjorz> zAo: Console or KDE
[01:40] <Seveas> cloudreader, something about 'Unable to open /var/lib/apt/lists/something' I guess
[01:40] <dv__> uh, I should get 5.04, right?
[01:40] <zAo^> DaZjorz, for Gnome: Xchat, for console: BitchX
[01:40] <Seveas> dv__, yes
[01:40] <DaZjorz> zAo^: KDE IRC program
[01:40] <Seveas> that's the latest stable
[01:41] <zAo^> DaZjorz, dont remember the name, mom
[01:41] <kemik> DaZjorz:  gui: xchat console: irssi
[01:41] <Seveas> kvirc maybe?
[01:41] <tegan> bitchx is evil, use irssi, just like bitchx, but without all the evil autokick/autoban/autocrap
[01:41] <Seveas> kopete does irc too
[01:41] <zAo^> DaZjorz, Konversation !
[01:41] <typo> I can't make my microphone work. The levels seem to be fine, any hints?
[01:41] <DaZjorz> Thanks :)
[01:41] <Seveas> typo, speak louder ;)
[01:41] <lee> tegan: plus irssi isn't a steaming pile of buggy feces =)
[01:41] <DaZjorz> Gonna install Ubuntu now.
[01:42] <dv__> mic in linux seems to be some real issue
[01:42] <Seveas> lee, true :)
[01:42] <dv__> never got it to work either
[01:42] <zAo^> DaZjorz, not on Ubuntu at all?
[01:42] <typo> dv__,  works fine in my laptop
[01:42] <XIII> Seveas it's the same
[01:42] <dv__> ah, typo.
[01:42] <XIII> nothing changed
[01:42] <dv__> it DOES work, but I hear me speaking, which is something i dont want
[01:42] <DaZjorz> zAo^: I'm gonna delete Windows and install Ubuntu. Then install Windows in VMWare, if I need it.
[01:42] <DaZjorz> Cuz I like Ubuntu.
[01:42] <XIII> and it doesn't work again that real player
[01:42] <typo> dv__, yes, but I can't get even that to work
[01:42] <DaZjorz>                                   See ya in Ubuntu in 30 minutes or something :)
[01:42] <tegan> so anyone even know exactly what process handles automounting usb drives in ubuntu 5.04? there doesn't seem to be any autofs stuff
[01:43] <zAo^> DaZjorz, welcome :) Did that too. Nerver started vmware though lol :)
[01:43] <Seveas> dv__, lol :)
[01:43] <Seveas> tegan, HAL + pmount
[01:43] <Digis> tegan, gnome-volume-manager too
[01:43] <cloudreader> I got my grandfather to migrate from windows to ubuntu and he is very happy (he is 71) he kept gettins spyware and viruses in Windows
[01:43] <Seveas> true, that one too
[01:43] <ags06> has anyone tried to install realplayer
[01:43] <ags06> if not what i use to play *.rm files
[01:43] <XIII> anyone has anyother solution for that real player to run from my machine?
[01:43] <ags06> and what about firewall
[01:43] <zAo^> cloudreader, good to hear so :)
[01:44] <Seveas> ags06: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[01:44] <Seveas> ags06: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[01:44] <DaZjorz> Cloudreader: Lol, thats fantastic
[01:44] <lee> you keep mentioning hal and hal having problems with 2.6.12, Seveas ... what is hal? (and are there 9000 of them)
[01:44] <zAo^> XIII, error msg?
[01:44] <XIII> yeah
[01:44] <DaZjorz> Cloudreader: I never heard that people who are 65+ like Linux LOOOOOL
[01:44] <XIII> Details: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)
[01:44] <XIII> also this message : Could not find 'realplay'
[01:44] <Seveas> lee, HAL == hardware abstraction layer
[01:44] <zAo^> XIII, installed by apt?
[01:44] <black_Nightmare> any of you know if the livecd (its slight older copy I think admittly) supports pc-to-pc usb transfer cables?
[01:44] <XIII> no
[01:44] <Seveas> XIII, sudo updatedb (takes a while)
[01:44] <cloudreader> he found it easier to use than windows as unlike windows he can't screw serious things (as he doesn't know how to to sudo and let's keep it that way!)
[01:45] <black_Nightmare> I think the livecd is Hoary
[01:45] <Seveas> XIII, then: slocate realplay
[01:45] <zAo^> black_Nightmare, I think so yes
[01:45] <XIII> .bin and .rpm
[01:45] <lee> Seveas: where is that controlled/what is it controlled by?
[01:45] <Seveas> XIII, paste the output of the latter on the pastebin
[01:45] <zAo^> XIII, `sudo apt-get install realplayer`
[01:45] <Seveas> lee, I'm afraid I don't know the details, but it's a layer between kernel and system programs
[01:46] <cloudreader> He had just trouble configuring his printer and I couldn't do it for him as I am many milles away but I suggested he requests help in the forum and now it is fine
[01:46] <XIII> Seveas where is the pastebin?
[01:46] <dv__> :O
[01:46] <dv__> 600 MB
[01:46] <Seveas> !pastebin
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is probably at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[01:46] <black_Nightmare> zAo^ hm ty I was curious about using the livecd to transfer things from another pc to this pc just once without having to bother installing the window drivers for the cable etc
[01:46] <dv__> forgot about the size of that iso
[01:46] <black_Nightmare> ;)
[01:46] <lee> Seveas: ok, let me rephrase, where is it, some package, or some config option in the kernel?
[01:46] <XIII> !pastebin
[01:46] <Stormx> Seveas, sorry I'm a little late here. What do I do with that file you linked me to?
[01:46] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[01:46] <cloudreader> The average 65+ just needs Email, Web browser, Openoffice and printer configured. Ubuntu rules at that
[01:47] <Stormx> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[01:47] <Stormx> that one
[01:47] <dv__> is there a install-CD-torrent?
[01:47] <black_Nightmare> cloudreader...lol
[01:47] <Seveas> Stormx, download it
[01:47] <dv__> oh
[01:47] <Stormx> Seveas: done
[01:47] <Seveas> and run sudo bash winmc_fstab
[01:47] <dv__> just overlooked them
[01:47] <lee> Seveas: also, do you realise this is a linux help channel?  you're not being anywhere near condescending enough ;)
[01:47] <Stormx> no such file or directory... but it is there >_>
[01:48] <rzr> hi
[01:48] <zAo^> ($PATH correct??)
[01:48] <dv__> um, the install/live DVD is for both install-less preview and installing, right?
[01:48] <cloudreader> My grandpa stil doesn't believe that he is not likely to get more viruses and keeps running f-prot for viruses in ubuntu like he got used to do in windows
[01:48] <zAo^> lo rzr
[01:48] <dv__> if so, I'll check out the dvd at the university
[01:48] <Seveas> lee, ehrm, english is not my native language. What's 'condescending'?
[01:48] <rzr> how comes that hoary's vlc cant encore in theroa ?
[01:48] <zAo^> cloudreader, lol :)
[01:48] <rzr> how comes that hoary's vlc cant encoDe in theroa ?
[01:48] <Seveas> dv__, it is indeed
[01:48] <Stormx> Seveas: How handy ;-)
[01:49] <lee> Seveas: are you familiar with #debian, specifically mwilson?  otherwise, read "rude and obnoxious" ;)
[01:49] <SquareGuy> dv__, yeah the dvd image is quite nice
[01:49] <Seveas> lee, check :)
[01:49] <tegan> manager.c/91: non-local DISPLAY variable, exiting
[01:49] <tegan> stupid gnome-volume-manager won't let me use it remotely :(
[01:49] <Seveas> lee, we like to keep this channel friendly, unlike #debian :)
[01:49] <bystander> lee: mwilson has raised rudeness to the level of art ;)
[01:50] <dv__> now it would be perfect if I found some store with a linux magazine with an ubuntu hoary DVD :)
[01:50] <lee> bystander: he is certainly a master of his craft
[01:50] <XIII> Seveas : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/329888
[01:51] <Hoaas|n00b> Can anyone tell me how to install codecs so I can play .mp3? or where to find it?
[01:51] <lukas> hmm
[01:51] <bystander> !mp3
[01:51] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:51] <lukas> if i want to create a file what do i do then
[01:51] <lukas> touche or somting
[01:51] <topyli> lukas: touch
[01:51] <flodine> can someone tell me is there a gtk-themes for ubuntu?
[01:51] <lukas> ahha
[01:52] <zAo^> Seveas, duurde even, maar het betekend "verliest zijn zelfrespekt"
[01:52] <joakim> Guys, I need some help :D How do I make a certain screen resolution default for each user when he/she logs on? The "default for %n" does not really work as intended
[01:52] <jowi> flodine, art.gnome.org is a good place to start/continue
[01:52] <XIII> zAo^ : root@nihon:/home/xiii # sudo apt-get install realplayer
[01:52] <XIII> Reading package lists... Done
[01:52] <XIII> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:52] <XIII> realplayer is already the newest version.
[01:52] <XIII> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:52] <topyli> flodine: sure, and more on the web
[01:52] <topyli> how nice
[01:52] <topyli> :)
[01:53] <Seveas> zAo^, heej, nog meer Nederlanders :)
[01:53] <flodine> no the theme changer
[01:53] <Seveas> zAo^, #ubuntu-nl </spam> :)
[01:53] <joakim> Which file can I edit to remove certain screen resolutions or add the one I want from startup?
[01:53] <Seveas> XIII, how are you starting realplayer?
[01:53] <topyli> flodine: you mean gtk-theme-switch?
[01:53] <u19809> any php5 packages around ?
[01:53] <flodine> yes
[01:53] <cloudreader> If somebody is interested I have put together a loginscreen that resembles XP, with faces to click on
[01:53] <Seveas> joakim, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <Seveas> u19809, people.debian.org/~dexter/
[01:53] <joakim> Thanks
[01:54] <u19809> thx
[01:54] <XIII> direct click on applications/sound and video/realplayer10
[01:54] <joakim> Oh yeah, I remember this file from my Gentoo days ^^
[01:54] <XIII> or right click on the file i want to open and to choose from the list real player 10
[01:54] <flodine> topli yes
[01:54] <topyli> flodine: yep, it's in universe
[01:54] <jowi> flowin, yes, gnome-theme-manager can change gtk. but personally i downloaded gtk-chtheme since it is much lighter
[01:54] <bystander> flodine: gtk-theme-switch is the name of the package :)
[01:55] <Seveas> XIII, hmm, maybe it starts the wrong one. You still have a lot of realplayer cruft in your homedir. Try moving that to a new folder
[01:55] <jowi> flodine, that comment was ment for you, not flowin
[01:55] <jowi> :-)
[01:55] <XIII> how Seveas ?
[01:56] <joakim> Seveas, may I private message you for a second?
[01:56] <Stormx> No.
[01:56] <Seveas> XIII, mkdir /home/xiii/cruft
[01:56] <Seveas> mv /home/xiii/programs/realplayer  /home/xiii/cruft
[01:56] <Seveas> joakim, sure
[01:57] <XIII> Seveas then?
[01:57] <Seveas> then retry
[01:57] <Seveas> oh and: mv /home/xiii/Desktop/hxsetup /home/xiii/cruft
[01:58] <XIII> then??, retry to run or to install??
[01:58] <Seveas> run
[01:58] <Stormx> Yo, any problems/suggestions with putting WINE on ubuntu?
[01:58] <XIII> ok
[01:58] <XIII> Details: Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory)
[01:59] <XIII> Could not find 'realplay'
[01:59] <XIII> the same result Seveas
[01:59] <zAo^> :S where is the realplayer binary located? run full path
[02:00] <DreamHacker> hello
[02:00] <Seveas> hmm
[02:00] <Seveas> XIII, this is a quick hack: sudo ln -s /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay /usr/bin/realplay
[02:01] <zAo^> hehe
[02:01] <joakim> Can you btw install windows media player plugin for Firefox on Ubuntu? :D
[02:01] <lukas> we we we
[02:01] <lukas> lol
[02:01] <XIII> The filename "realplay.bin" indicates that this file is of type "unknown". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "executable". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[02:01] <XIII> Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "executable", then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file.
[02:01] <lukas> the admin is awake :/
[02:01] <Seveas> joakim, you gave a sick mind :)
[02:01] <joakim> I know I know :)
[02:02] <DreamHacker> anyone knows how to find and install vidix driver for mplayer?
[02:02] <Seveas> XIII, hmm, something fishy is going on there, probably due to the failed install attempts earlier.
[02:02] <joakim> Come on please, I want windows messenger! :D
[02:02] <XIII> root@nihon:/home/xiii # sudo ln -s /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay /usr/bin/realplay
[02:02] <XIII> root@nihon:/home/xiii #
[02:02] <wezzer-> I have a question concerning this web page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[02:02] <Seveas> XIII, in a terminal you type: realplay
[02:02] <DreamHacker> joakim, use GAIM!!
[02:02] <Seveas> what does that give you?
[02:02] <wezzer-> this command won't work - sudo apt-get install bmp-skins
[02:02] <wezzer-> there is no package named bmp-skins
[02:03] <joakim> GAIM doesnt allow me to watch nekkid chicks on cam :D
[02:03] <DreamHacker> HAHA
[02:03] <DreamHacker> LOL
[02:03] <Seveas> wezzer-, there is no such package
[02:03] <XIII> Seveas it freezes
[02:03] <priest> joakim: install the CVS of amsn
[02:06] <wezzer-> Seveas: then how can I install skins to beep media player?
[02:06] <zAo^> wezzer-, use the xmms-skins and move them...
[02:06] <XIII> root@nihon:/home/xiii # realplay
[02:06] <XIII> root@nihon:/home/xiii #
[02:06] <wezzer-> okay, thanks
[02:06] <Nameeater> apt-cache search bmp | grep skin bmp-skins - Skins for XMMS
[02:06] <Seveas> wezzer-, no idea really...
[02:06] <jowi> wezzer-, you need to add extra repositories
[02:06] <dv__> can debian and ubuntu packages be mixed freely?
[02:06] <Seveas> Nameeater, hmm
[02:06] <tegan> sometimes, but not really dv__
[02:06] <djp> !dma
[02:06] <dv__> that is, if there is no ubuntu package, trying it with debian mirrors
[02:06] <Nameeater> maybe its in backports or what ever its called :)
[02:06] <tegan> depends on the deps of that package
[02:06] <Seveas> Nameeater, paste the output of apt-cache show bmp-skins in a private chat please :)
[02:06] <DreamHacker> debian packages use to work fine for me
[02:06] <Dr_Melectaus> Can anyone help me, when ever i try to play an audio file in music playrt it saying cant use playback
[02:06] <wezzer-> jowi: which repositories?
[02:06] <Seveas> dv__, Ubuntu has most of debian and more
[02:06] <tegan> DreamHacker: depends on whether you are pulling from deb stable, or deb testing
[02:06] <hayden> is there any mac os x dock app like the starterbar? i dont like it much
[02:06] <tegan> deb testing/unstable is getting further and further away from  hoary
[02:06] <jowi> wezzer-, hoary backports universe
[02:06] <DreamHacker> okej
[02:06] <dv__> also some problematic stuff like mplayer, libdvdcss .... ?
[02:06] <jowi> !backports
[02:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[02:06] <tegan> and if it's in deb stable, then it's probably in hoary anyway :)
[02:06] <Nameeater> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/329894
[02:06] <wezzer-> jowi: thanks
[02:06] <Seveas> dv__, mplayer is in multiverse, dvdcss in hoary-extras
[02:06] <jowi> Filename: dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/bmp-skins_0.1-2~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[02:06] <{cYanide}> hi er
[02:06] <jowi> wezzer-, you are welcome
[02:06] <{cYanide}> im trying to use my usb modem, (its detected n all fine, eaglestat says its all ok) but when i startadsl.. nothing happens
[02:07] <cyborg> plz help. permission denied when accessing /mnt/win. fstab contains user,uid='myuid'. why is permission denied?
[02:07] <dv__> you set the permissions for /mnt/win?
[02:07] <DreamHacker> anyone knows how to find and install the vidix driver for mplayer?
[02:07] <zAo^> cyborg, what is the umask?
[02:07] <dv__> and chown'ed the user?
[02:07] <cyborg> my umask is 0022
[02:07] <Seveas> dv__, these things have no effect on windows things :)
[02:07] <zAo^> cyborg, the mount-umask?
[02:08] <dv__> but I cant mount a windows partition on a dir owned by root
[02:08] <dv__> if I am a regular user
[02:08] <Seveas> cyborg, put your /etc/fstab, the output of mount and ls -al /mnt on the pastebin please
[02:08] <mjr> dv__, you can, if it's allowed in /etc/fstab
[02:08] <dv__> with user and users?
[02:08] <lukas> hmm
[02:08] <jowi> {cYanide}, try to install pppoeconf to configure your connection
[02:08] <dv__> didn't work regardless of these flags being present
[02:08] <dv__> and uid=1000 gid=100 was present too
[02:09] <dv__> still, no effect
[02:09] <lukas> there is NO firewall on ubuntu by default ??
[02:09] <Seveas> lukas: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[02:09] <{cYanide}> ok jowi, er is there a commandline way to install , or just via the package installer?
[02:09] <mjr> lukas, the firewall is not on by default because it doesn't need to; ubuntu doesn't listen to the network by default either
[02:09] <lukas> Seveas:  wher do i se if firestarter is upp ?
[02:10] <cyborg> /dev/hda1       /mnt/win0       ntfs    ro,noauto,user,uid=0022 0       0
[02:10] <Seveas> lukas, if you install it, it is on
[02:10] <CarlFK> trying to use nfs, i get: "mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused" (no firewall)
[02:10] <jowi> {cYanide}, sudo apt-get install pppoeconfig
[02:10] <{cYanide}> sweet tnx
[02:10] <Seveas> cyborg, ehrm
[02:10] <lukas> Seveas:  ahha
[02:10] <Seveas> you put a umask in your uid
[02:10] <Seveas> cyborg, that will never work :)
[02:10] <lukas> hmm
[02:10] <cyborg> Seveas?
[02:10] <Seveas> cyborg, remove that line from /etc/fstab please
[02:10] <Seveas> cyborg: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[02:10] <lukas> ps aux | grep firestarter
[02:11] <Seveas> lukas, nope
[02:11] <lukas> bhha
[02:11] <lukas> wrong
[02:11] <Seveas> lukas, iptables -L
[02:11] <Seveas> :)
[02:11] <Seveas> the firestarter program does not have to run for the firewall to be active
[02:11] <benkong2> could someone go here and tell me why I get a directory listing instead of the apache test page? http://www.bfdavis.org
[02:11] <kemik> Seveas:  there really should be a better explanation of that http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab program, i dont think many newbies knows what a bash script is
[02:12] <Seveas> kemik, it has instructions in it :)
[02:12] <hayden> is there any mac os x dock app like the starterbar? i dont like it much
[02:12] <lukas> ACCEPT     icmp --  anywhere             anywhere
[02:12] <lukas> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[02:12] <Whistler> kemik http://www.bfdavis.org/apache2-default/index.html.en
[02:12] <kemik> Seveas:  :)
[02:12] <Seveas> benkong2, maybe you have disabled the variable html stuff in the apache config
[02:12] <jowi> benkong2, you do not have an index.html
[02:12] <kemik> Whistler:  you've successfully installed Apache ;)
[02:13] <lukas> Seveas:  is everyting of or what ?
[02:13] <Seveas> jowi, there does not need to be such a file :)
[02:13] <Seveas> lukas, if that is the complete output, you did not install firestarter yet :)
[02:13] <Dr_Melectaus> How do i re-install Music player
[02:13] <benkong2> Seveas; I noticed that there is a line in apache alias that says disabled for ubuntu. I uncommented that line maybe I should not have
[02:13] <jowi> Seveas, but it makes life easier  :-)
[02:13] <Seveas> benkong2, which line was that?
[02:13] <Seveas> benkong2, afaik that line is harmless
[02:14] <priest> i have change theme on my gdm, and change theme in my user, but still i have a brown background between gdm and when gnome starts up, how do i get rid of it?
[02:14] <benkong2> let me check...does the index.html.en not work
[02:14] <Seveas> jowi, not in this case, apache should pick index.html.$something too
[02:14] <Dr_Melectaus> could someone tell me how i re-install Music player
[02:14] <Seveas> it's something in the config
[02:14] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, which one?
[02:14] <jowi> Seveas, oh alright
[02:15] <Dr_Melectaus> Seveas, the only one i have on ubuntu :-\
[02:15] <Dr_Melectaus> the default one
[02:15] <hayden> rename index.html.en to index.html
[02:15] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, what's its name? :)
[02:15] <lukas> bhha
[02:16] <Seveas> (I've used UBuntu for too long to forget which is the default music player :))
[02:16] <lukas> unstabel server
[02:16] <benkong2> in sites-available/default it says "RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/" commented out for ubuntu
[02:16] <sJaM> Rhytmbox Seveas
[02:16] <avanspronsen> Dr_Melectaus: MPlayer?
[02:16] <jowi> or totem
[02:16] <lukas> Seveas: is there a log for the ssh connections in to my local server
[02:16] <Dr_Melectaus> avan, Music player
[02:17] <Seveas> lukas, /var/log/auth* should say something
[02:17] <Dr_Melectaus> apps>sound and vid>Music Player
[02:17] <Seveas> benkong2, better leave that off indeed :)
[02:17] <cloudr> Can anybody help me get my micro working under gstreamer-properties (output filter) see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54560
[02:17] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, sudo apt-get install --reinstall rhythmbox
[02:18] <cloudr> hi Casagrande
[02:18] <Chaotic_Shield> morning everyone
[02:18] <Dr_Melectaus> Seveas, its called Music Player though
[02:18] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, true, but its real name is rhythmbox :)
[02:18] <benkong2> Seveas; ok
[02:18] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, stop spreading toxic fumes please ;)
[02:19] <lukas> hmm
[02:19] <lukas> i dont find any conections in i think
[02:19] <Chaotic_Shield> Sure Seveas, as long as you stop highlighting me.
[02:19] <Seveas> ;)
[02:19] <Chaotic_Shield> :-P
[02:20] <CarlFK> how do I set what IP/interfase nfs-server binds to?
[02:20] <lukas___> hmma
[02:20] <speedy73> #nemerle
[02:20] <lukas___> whats so unstabel
[02:20] <Groov> pg
[02:20] <cloudr> CarlFK: vi /etc/exports
[02:21] <CarlFK> cloudr - um... that is what can mount - not what nic the server uses
[02:21] <Seveas> speedy73, stop spamming
[02:21] <cloudr> CarlFK: I see what you mean, then no idea mate.
[02:21] <CarlFK> rats.
[02:21] <CarlFK> but thanks for trying ;)
[02:21] <lukas> hmma
[02:22] <lukas> i dont get this :/
[02:22] <lukas> well well
[02:23] <lukas> bbl going home
[02:23] <jowi> cloudr, open a terminal: 'killall esd' + gnome -> system -> prefs -> sound: untick "enable server at start" + multimedia-system-selector: select default sink = alsa
[02:24] <Seveas> jowi, bad idea
[02:24] <Seveas> all applications ubuntu comes with use esd
[02:24] <wijnand> is it possible to create keyboard shortcuts for other tasks than the ones already listed in System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts?
[02:24] <Seveas> so you would have to change a lot
[02:24] <Seveas> wijnand, ye
[02:24] <Seveas> s
[02:24] <Stormx> Hey, when im running commands, what is a substitude for a whitespace?
[02:24] <Seveas> in gconf-editor
[02:24] <BTJustice> I got a little problem with GRUB.  I made a GRUB floppy boot disk.  When I try to boot from it, all it says is GRUB and nothing else and doesn't do anything.  I can't see any files on it in Windows XP (which I am on now).  What should I do so I can boot into my newly installed Kubuntu?
[02:25] <Seveas> wijnand, somewhere in the /apps/metacity key
[02:25] <crashd> hmm
[02:25] <wijnand> Seveas: ok thanks
[02:25] <cloudr> jowi: I will give that a try. Are you available in MSN or ICQ in case it doesn't work or needs further tweaking?
[02:25] <jowi> Seveas, esd crashes the most useful programs out there. Skype for example does not work with it enabled.
[02:25] <crashd> how do you configure acpi/power on ubuntu
[02:25] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, does it say something like "grub>" ?
[02:25] <crashd> i want to set the actions for power button and screen down
[02:25] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, You probably want to learn a few basic Grub commands ?
[02:25] <tegan> who made metacity the default anyway
[02:25] <Stormx> What do you use for a white space when running commands?
[02:25] <jowi> cloudr, I only use skype or you can find me in here
[02:26] <tegan> it refuses to let my applications use shortcut keys
[02:26] <Seveas> Stormx, '\ '
[02:26] <Seveas> without ''
[02:26] <cloudr> jowi: ok, give me a minute
[02:26] <Stormx> OK thanks
[02:26] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, But the simplest way would probably be to use a Knoppix or an Ubuntu boot cd to install Grub on your MBR
[02:26] <BTJustice> lllmanulll:  I stick the floppy in, turn computer on, it read floppy, and all it says is GRUB with a cursor after it.  It does nothing else.  It asks me nothing.
[02:27] <Stormx> bah, it no workig
[02:27] <BTJustice> I can't install GRUB to MBR.  WIndows XP is on a SATA hard drive (C:)
[02:27] <Stormx> fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW stub!
[02:27] <Seveas> Stormx, what is the command you are trying?
[02:27] <hume> hi... what do I need to put in a .xinitrc-file to make startx start with xfce4?
[02:27] <cloudr> jowi: still the same Failed to contruct test pipeline for 'ALSA
[02:27] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, Yup, that looks like Grub all right :) It is like a mini-shell, there are commands you can run
[02:32] <cloudr> jowi: there was no esd process anyway
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, I see... I don't know a lot about this...
[02:32] <jowi> cloudr, how about esdd?
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, Serial-ATA hard drive don't have MBR ?
[02:32] <BTJustice> lllmanulll:  It won;t ask me right off the bat if I want to boot Ubuntu?
[02:32] <jowi> cloudr, alsa will fail if esd is running
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, Well it should
[02:32] <cloudr> jowi: no esdd either
[02:32] <BTJustice> lllmanulll:  It won't right to its MBR for some reason.
[02:32] <CarlFK> cloudr - found it:  /etc/default/portmap: # By default, listen only on the loopback interface; OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, But you probably need to install it on the MBR of your first drive...
[02:32] <{cYanide}> hi again, er i tried ppoeconf but still the same problem
[02:32] <BTJustice> Probably because the only way I can install Linux on my computer is to run "boot: linux pci-noacpi"
[02:32] <{cYanide}> i took 2 screenshots thou
[02:32] <cloudr> CarlFK: oh yes the portmap, had forgotten about that
[02:32] <yuacht> is it safe to upgrade to breezy atm?
[02:32] <{cYanide}> http://legion.gibbering.net/cyanidenights/modem1.png  , http://legion.gibbering.net/cyanidenights/modem2.png
[02:32] <Seveas> yuacht, no
[02:32] <yuacht> Seveas, what's broken?
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, Sorry, I don't know much more than that
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, You can still try to learn a few basic GRUB commands
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, Should be able to find this with Google
[02:32] <cyborg> Seveas, 10x. winmac_fstab didn't run well, but reading it helped.
[02:32] <cloudr> jowi: OSS also fails not just ALSA, but only for the micro. For the input sink both alsa and oss work
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, But I find it weird it couldn't be installed onto the MBR
[02:32] <jowi> cloudr, so alsa as an input now work?
[02:32] <lllmanulll> BTJustice, I guess Google might help you about this ("MBR" "SATA", etc.)
[02:32] <{cYanide}> er it wouldnt install to the mbr here at first
[02:32] <Seveas> yuacht, X still is not completely cured
[02:32] <{cYanide}> i had to delete the partition and repartition
[02:32] <{cYanide}> then it did
[02:32] <Seveas> cyborg, what was the problem?
[02:32] <cloudr> jowi: no, no change. ALSA works as output. Nothing works as input. but /dev/dsp2 is my micro and works
[02:32] <cloudr> jowi: cat < dev/dsp2 > /dev/dsp gets my voice on the speakers
[02:32] <jowi> cloudr, the commandline tool alsamixer has an option to change mic. have you tried that?
[02:32] <tristia> is really ubuntu shipping is free..>?
[02:33] <dazjorz> Hello :D
[02:33] <{cYanide}> is ubuntu shipping really free (fixed)
[02:33] <dazjorz> Yes
[02:33] <sdefresne> yes
[02:33] <dazjorz> its really free
[02:33] <cloudr> jowi: no I haven't
[02:33] <yuacht> Seveas, how much trouble is that for me? What doesn't work?
[02:33] <jowi> cloudr, alsamixer has that option but gnome-volume-control (for the alsa device) does not. might be worth a try
[02:34] <dazjorz> Guys, guess what
[02:34] <dazjorz> i've installed Ubuntu
[02:34] <Seveas> yuacht, I don't know the details. It's fairly complete but you can easily get problems
[02:34] <AudioMove> im a bit new to sudo, and everytime i open an admin x app it asks for password and its fails. I searched and i am a member of the admin group and that group is in the sudoers file. The only thing i noticed od is that theirs also a group name as my username they wouldnt be conflicting by any chance?
[02:34] <dazjorz> and it works ;-D
[02:34] <kemik> dazjorz:  great :)
[02:34] <Seveas> dazjorz, nice
[02:34] <Whistler> i wanna resize my ubuntu partition so i should unmount it first?
[02:34] <dazjorz> i expected a lot more errors
[02:34] <dazjorz> generally because its Linux xP
[02:34] <dazjorz> :P
[02:34] <Seveas> Whistler, yup
[02:34] <dazjorz> and i've installed the server version of Ubuntu on my server before
[02:34] <cloudr> jowi: how do i get alsamixer to change the micro to dev/dsp2 ?
[02:34] <gilligan_> Whistler, u won't be able to unless u unmount it anyway
[02:34] <dazjorz> and hundreds of errors
[02:34] <dazjorz> its a shitty machine
[02:35] <dazjorz> but here, it just worked. Just, without any error, only a few warnings that were automatically fixed later
[02:35] <Seveas> AudioMove, are you typing in *your* password and not the root password?
[02:35] <Whistler> when i wanna to unmount it i get an device busy erro
[02:35] <dazjorz> for example: the font config wasn't found and it installed the program 'fontconfig'
[02:35] <Seveas> Whistler, you can't unmount your root partition :)
[02:35] <gilligan_> Whistler, well if its your root partition thats no suprise
[02:35] <dazjorz> I never saw Windows do that
[02:35] <dazjorz> !! ^^
[02:35] <ubotu> I don't know, dazjorz
[02:35] <jowi> cloudr, just go to the <Mic Select> and press arrow-up or arrow-down
[02:35] <Whistler> so how do i resize it?
[02:35] <tristia> ubuntu have how many disc..?
[02:35] <Seveas> cyborg, ?
[02:35] <Seveas> tristia, One
[02:35] <yuacht> Seveas, u dun mind me asking in ubuntu-devel right?
[02:35] <sdefresne> tristia : one
[02:36] <Seveas> yuacht, of course not :)
[02:36] <yuacht> =)
[02:36] <AudioMove> yea i know that Seveas
[02:36] <tristia> thank..
[02:36] <dazjorz> tristia: One and you can order it for free !!
[02:36] <cloudr> jowi: it is strange. alsamixer shows just one control throtle PCM
[02:36] <Seveas> tristia, they actually ship 2: a live cd and an install cd
[02:36] <gilligan_> Whistler, you could boot from some live CD/recovery CD
[02:36] <Seveas> AudioMove, try in a terminal: sudo echo foo
[02:36] <cloudr> jowi: in another PC I have shows loads of controls
[02:36] <dazjorz> Seveas: You were saying something about a plugin for X-Chat
[02:36] <Whistler> um does ubuntu live cd have gparted?
[02:36] <sdefresne> depends on the arch, i didn't get a live CD for PPC
[02:36] <Seveas> AudioMove, does that give an error?
[02:36] <jowi> cloudr, i have either Mic1 or Mic2 to choose from since my laptop's got a builtin mic as well
[02:36] <jowi> cloudr, ouch!
[02:36] <Seveas> dazjorz, when..?
[02:36] <Stormx> Hey Seveas, I've downloaded the xdialog package (.deb) is it possible to run synaptic to install it?
[02:36] <Whistler> or some tool for partitioning?
[02:37] <Seveas> sdefresne, that was warty :)
[02:37] <tristia> how can i know they is ship live cd or install cd..?
[02:37] <Whistler>  dazjorz gaim
[02:37] <DVSoftware> Stormx, dpkg -i
[02:37] <Seveas> sdefresne, since hoary there are live cd's for all archs
[02:37] <dazjorz> Seveas: Dunno, maybe it wasn't you. But I heard something about a script or something
[02:37] <dazjorz> Whistler: OK, Thanks
[02:37] <Seveas> tristia, you get both
[02:37] <Whistler> tristia you get 2 i one package
[02:37] <tristia> oh..
[02:37] <Whistler> n
[02:37] <jowi> cloudr, then you have bigger problems. i have no idea how to fix that
[02:38] <cyborg> Seveas, i didn't use uid right. winmac_fstab showed me the right way. Btw, winmac_fstab failed because /etc/fstab already contained line with hda1.
[02:38] <Seveas> Stormx, please install that via apt and do NOT install manually doenloaded .debs!
[02:38] <sdefresne> ok, didn't order the last version (apt-get upgrade)
[02:38] <cloudr> jowi: ok, thanks for trying
[02:38] <jowi> cloudr, does the "Card: " at the top of alsamixer say the correct device btw?
[02:38] <Whistler> does livecd have some tool for partitioning?
[02:38] <Seveas> cyborg, that 'failure' is by design :)
[02:38] <DVSoftware> cfdisk i guess
[02:38] <Stormx> Seveas, DVSoftware way seemed to work just like synaptic does it!
[02:38] <Seveas> it would be wring to have 2 fstab lines for the same drive
[02:38] <Hiruko> Hi
[02:40] <Stormx> Hey
[02:40] <Hiruko> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I can get to gdm. When I try to logon it crashes
[02:40] <cloudr> jowi: no it shows my USB speaker (which works fine)
[02:40] <Seveas> Hiruko, 'crashes'?
[02:40] <Hiruko> >_<
[02:40] <peter2> how to mount a kingston USB memorystick ?
[02:40] <Seveas> be a bit more descriptive please...
[02:40] <Hiruko> The system stops responding
[02:40] <luminerd> anyone know how to tell what windows driver I need for my ethernet?  downloading so I don't end up with a driverless system...
[02:40] <Seveas> peter2, plug it in :)
[02:40] <Hiruko> I cannot move the mouse do anything with the keyboard etc
[02:40] <peter2> did it
[02:40] <Seveas> Hiruko, hmm...
[02:40] <dazjorz> By the way, I have problems with USB devices
[02:40] <peter2> nothing shows
[02:40] <Bateau> where can i download and read about how to install a c compiler?
[02:40] <peter2> when rebooting
[02:40] <cloudr> jowi: I did alsamixer -c2 and that showst he right thing
[02:40] <Stormx> Seveas: How do I use apt to download and install specific packages?
[02:40] <jowi> cloudr, alsamixer -c 2
[02:40] <gilligan_> Whistler, for partitioning most prolly - for *altering* partitions, i.e parted not sure - check knoppix or so.. also go and check the manuals of parted i'm sure there are hints on how to use it to alter your root partition
[02:40] <peter2> icon shows but it is not mounted
[02:40] <dazjorz> I started the installation and i couldn't use my keyboard, so I plugged in some converter
[02:40] <jowi> cloudr, ah, you found it
[02:40] <DVSoftware> Bateau, apt-get install build-essential
[02:40] <Seveas> Bateau, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:40] <{cYanide}> so er anymore ideas on why my usb modem is active but wont connect?
[02:40] <cloudr> jowi: yep, but only Auto Gain as an option here
[02:40] <dazjorz> Now, I want to use my keyboard just as USB, should I just connect it or should I install something first?
[02:40] <Seveas> Stormx, open synaptic, search for what you want and mark it for installation
[02:40] <Stormx> Seveas: Its not in the list.
[02:40] <Seveas> Stormx, if you can't find something: enable universe
[02:41] <Seveas> xdialog is definitely there
[02:41] <Stormx> OK, How do I do that.
[02:41] <Hiruko> Any clue why it woudl do that?
[02:41] <Stormx> It wasn't for me.
[02:41] <Seveas> Stormx, dod you ever manually add a repository?
[02:41] <cloudr> jowi: what about OSS? I would settle for OSS input support
[02:41] <Stormx> Seveas, yeah I did.
[02:41] <Hiruko> I am quite sure it's the window manager because the same thing happened in Debian once when i ran unstable
[02:41] <Hiruko> I just don't know how to fix it
[02:41] <Stormx> To get wine.
[02:41] <Seveas> Hiruko, not at all i'm afraid. If no one else answers ask in the forums or on the mailinglist
[02:41] <jowi> cloudr, i have no experience with oss i'm afraid. your guess is as good as mine
[02:41] <peter2> seveas.... no luck
[02:41] <cloudr> jowi: The only way my micro works is if something lets me specify /dev/dsp2 as the micro source
[02:41] <Seveas> Stormx, please paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[02:41] <Hiruko> ACtually
[02:42] <Hiruko> Does ubuntu use X.org?
[02:42] <Whistler> so is it possible to move home folder to new partition then?
[02:42] <Seveas> Hiruko, yes
[02:42] <Stormx> Pastebin.........
[02:42] <Hiruko> That's the problem then
[02:42] <Seveas> !pastebin
[02:42] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[02:42] <Stormx> Sorry for being so neive.
[02:42] <Seveas> it's ok :)
[02:42] <dazjorz> I need help with gaim ..?
[02:42] <Seveas> better to be naive and polite than expert and rude :)
[02:42] <Stormx> =) Im still quite a beginner at all this.
[02:42] <DVSoftware> Hiruko, if gdm works, that's no problem
[02:42] <Hiruko> :p
[02:42] <Hiruko> I'm rather sure it is
[02:42] <dazjorz> Nvm.
[02:43] <Hiruko> Because I tried to switch to x.org with debian stable
[02:43] <Hiruko> When I put xfree86 back on it worked fine
[02:43] <Hiruko> unstable*
[02:43] <Stormx> Seveas, what am I pasting?
[02:43] <Seveas> peter2, does dmesg show anything when it's plugged in?
[02:43] <Stormx> wait
[02:43] <Stormx> sorry
[02:43] <Seveas> Stormx, the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <Bateau> hmm DVSoftware... i need GLIB 1.2.2 to :x
[02:43] <Seveas> Bateau, what are you trying to compile?
[02:43] <Bateau> XMMS
[02:43] <Bateau> :)
[02:43] <Seveas> Bateau, don't
[02:43] <Whistler> how do i take screenshot only of program
[02:43] <Bateau> why not?
[02:43] <Whistler> ?
[02:43] <Seveas> it's in the repositories
[02:43] <Chaotic_Shield> just apt-get it
[02:44] <Chaotic_Shield> yeah
[02:44] <Chaotic_Shield> apt-get install xmms
[02:44] <peter2> sorry what is dmesg ?
[02:44] <Seveas> whisKy, [alt] [prt scr] 
[02:44] <Bateau> oh
[02:44] <subterrific> Hiruko: what kind of laptop?
[02:44] <DVSoftware> Bateau, just apt it
[02:44] <Seveas> peter2, just type the command :)
[02:44] <Bateau> i didnt know that...
[02:44] <joakim> Another quick question, how do I get and install mp3 codecs for Music player and Totem?
[02:44] <Chaotic_Shield> !mp3
[02:44] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:44] <Whistler> how do i take screenshot only of program not whole thing?
[02:44] <tegan> alt-prtscr
[02:44] <Chaotic_Shield> joakim, check out the link ubotu just gave
[02:44] <Seveas> Whistler, , [alt] [prt scr] 
[02:44] <DVSoftware> !mp3
[02:44] <joakim> I will, thanks
[02:44] <dazjorz> whooohooo GAIM Works
[02:44] <Chaotic_Shield> Whistler, hold [Alt]  then hit [Print Screen] 
[02:45] <Bateau> and i need to install, so that i can play divx and xvid to. how do i do that?
[02:45] <DVSoftware> ahh... damn lag
[02:45] <peter2> shows a lot of lines...
[02:45] <DVSoftware> Bateau, www.mplayerhq.hu
[02:45] <DVSoftware> and download codecs
[02:45] <dazjorz> Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:
[02:45] <jowi> cloudr, i'm looking in to it.
[02:45] <Bateau> oki
[02:45] <dazjorz> GAIM: Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:
[02:45] <topyli> i wish gaim worked better with irc. i keep reverting to real irc clients
[02:45] <Seveas> peter2, paste the last 30 lines of it on the pastebin
[02:46] <kemik> topyli:  cant beat xchat ;)
[02:46] <dazjorz> Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:12:f0:0d:94:46:08:00 SRC=195.214.1 35.172 DST=195.214.135.191 LEN=235 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=21083 PROTO=UDP  SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=215
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:12:f0:0d:94:46:08:00 SRC=195.214.1 35.172 DST=195.214.135.191 LEN=235 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=21084 PROTO=UDP  SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=215
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=29154 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46855 DPT=3128 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=27206 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46854 DPT=80 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=56343 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46856 DPT=3777 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[02:46] <dazjorz> wooooooooo
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=41768 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46857 DPT=3802 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[02:46] <dazjorz> stop it
[02:46] <Chaotic_Shield> kemik, mIRC + wine beats XChat
[02:46] <cloudr> jowi: thanks a lot
[02:46] <dazjorz> darn
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=10422 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46858 DPT=6588 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[02:46] <crashd> lols
[02:46] <peter2> Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:3f:15:12:57:00:c0:7b:b1:af:94:08:00 SRC=82.96.96. 3 DST=195.214.135.141 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=27207 DF PROTO=TCP SPT =46854 DPT=80 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[02:46] <dazjorz> Peter2
[02:46] <dazjorz> stop it
[02:46] <DVSoftware> peter2, use pastebin damn
[02:46] <Chaotic_Shield> Seveas!
[02:46] <dazjorz> dont fucking do that
[02:46] <dazjorz> its very irritating
[02:46] <Seveas> peter2, MORON
[02:46] <kemik> Chaotic_Shield:  i've found xchat pretty nice. but sure, mirc is a bit better yes
[02:47] <dazjorz> Agreed
[02:47] <Chaotic_Shield> heh
[02:47] <kemik> sweet, pasting his tcpdump :)
[02:47] <Chaotic_Shield> rofl
[02:47] <Chaotic_Shield> yeah
[02:47] <Stormx> Seveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/329919
[02:47] <Seveas> peter2, things like this are very good if you don't want to get help
[02:47] <kemik> !tell peter2 about pastebin
[02:47] <Seveas> so guess what, you don't get help
[02:47] <joakim> You guys can't be serious that mIRC is better than xchat? :)
[02:47] <Chaotic_Shield> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:47] <Chaotic_Shield> mIRC > XChat.
[02:47] <kemik> joakim:  sure can ;)
[02:48] <tsw> anyone know of a excel like application for shell?
[02:48] <joakim> Gah
[02:48] <kemik> mIRC <!> Xchat
[02:48] <joakim> xchat > mIRC
[02:48] <subterrific> irssi > xchat > mIRC
[02:48] <djp> i prefer xchat over mirc
[02:48] <tsw> irssi beats xchat+mirc
[02:48] <kemik> subterrific:  oh comeon.. irssi :/
[02:48] <Chaotic_Shield> mIRC and irssi
[02:48] <housetier> my desktop > your desktop
[02:48] <dazjorz> yahoo, it works
[02:48] <kemik> housetier:  my dick >> your dick
[02:48] <dazjorz> Now...
[02:48] <Bubbling_Zombie> green > red
[02:48] <djp> erc is probably my favourite though
[02:48] <joakim> irssi is too low on interface :P
[02:48] <subterrific> kemik: excuse me screen + irssi
[02:48] <housetier> 2 > 1
[02:48] <kemik> blue > yellow
[02:49] <dazjorz> Joakim?
[02:49] <dazjorz> thats the fourth joakin
[02:49] <joakim> Heh
[02:49] <Seveas> Stormx, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/972
[02:49] <dazjorz> the fourth joakim in 1 week
[02:49] <joakim> It is?
[02:49] <dazjorz> Yes
[02:49] <Bateau> how do i unpack tar.bz2 files?
[02:49] <kemik> subterrific:  naaawh :P tried irssi and hanging in ~20 channels?
[02:49] <joakim> I was on earlier though :)
[02:49] <Seveas> Bateau, tar jxvf
[02:49] <dazjorz> You're the same as joachim
[02:49] <Bateau> thnx :)
[02:49] <Seveas> Bateau, tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2
[02:49] <kemik> subterrific:  and at least 10pm's
[02:49] <joakim> No I'm not :(
[02:50] <subterrific> kemik: doing it right now
[02:50] <dazjorz> Unless you wonderfully learned english, you're not the joakim I knew earlier xP
[02:50] <dazjorz> because that joakim only spoke Danish lol
[02:50] <kemik> subterrific:  i think irssi is horrid when i have that many active channels/pm's
[02:50] <subterrific> kemik: and the best part is that no matter where i am, i ssh into my box and reattach the screen and i'm there
[02:50] <Hiruko> Is there a default root password?
[02:50] <Chaotic_Shield> no.
[02:50] <Hiruko> I don't remember setting it in the setup >_<
[02:50] <Seveas> Hiruko, no
[02:50] <joakim> I'm danish, but I don't speak danish in international channels :)
[02:50] <dazjorz> >.<
[02:50] <Seveas> by default there is no root password
[02:50] <Hiruko> I was just allowed to set up a user
[02:50] <Seveas> !root
[02:51] <ubotu> root is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:51] <Hiruko> Oh so that's the default password ^_^
[02:51] <dazjorz> Joakim: Lol :P I don't believe you
[02:51] <kemik> subterrific:  well, im using psybnc so i nomatter where i am i just fire up a ircclient and connect to my bnc ;)
[02:51] <Seveas> Hiruko, the root password is disabled
[02:51] <subterrific> kemik: that doesn't keep history
[02:51] <joakim> You don't? Jeg kan da godt begynde at snakke dansk hvis det skal vre
[02:51] <Hiruko> kk
[02:51] <Stormx> Seveas: Type '@deb-src' is not known on line 39 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:51] <Hiruko> Sorry used to debian
[02:51] <dazjorz> I gtg
[02:51] <dazjorz> cya
[02:51] <Stormx> bai
[02:51] <Seveas> Stormx, oops
[02:51] <Stormx> typo?
[02:51] <Seveas> Stormx, change the @ into an #
[02:51] <Stormx> OK np
[02:51] <kemik> subterrific:  i guess i could fix trafficlogging, but i dont want to ;) it saves my PMs, thats all i need :)
[02:51] <joakim> See you dazjorz
[02:52] <Stormx> I'll go turn pacakges into packages, while i'm at it ;-)
[02:52] <subterrific> kemik: so xchat works for you, irssi works for me
[02:52] <Chaotic_Shield> why don't you just eat yourself {cYanide}?
[02:52] <kemik> subterrific:  yay! =)
[02:53] <is_dead> o
[02:53] <is_dead> didnt think of that
[02:53] <kemik> Chaotic_Shield:  i was thinking the same thing :)
[02:53] <{cYanide}> hey er
[02:53] <{cYanide}> are there any log files i can look at to see why my modems not connecting?
[02:53] <Seveas> /var/log/messages
[02:53] <Dr_Melectaus> Can somone help me, every time i try to open a tune in Music Player, it crashes and closes
[02:53] <Seveas> /var/log/kern.log
[02:53] <pschulz01> Greetings.. can anyone here deal with a Wiki/Launchpad account problem?
[02:53] <Seveas> /var/log/daemon
[02:54] <Seveas> etc :)
[02:54] <Stormx> Seveas: Synaptic just gives me lots of errors on startup
[02:54] <Dr_Melectaus> Sometimes it will say "cant pause play  back" but more than likely it will crash
[02:54] <Seveas> Stormx, that's ok
[02:54] <Seveas> hit the reload button
[02:54] <Hiruko> Is there a way to add a user to sudo or is my default user already there
[02:54] <Seveas> your default user is in the admin group
[02:55] <Seveas> which is in the sudoers file
[02:55] <Stormx> Seveas: Really? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/329922
[02:55] <Hiruko> I need to install xfree
[02:55] <Hiruko> It says I need to be root >_<
[02:55] <Chaotic_Shield> yeah
[02:55] <Dr_Melectaus> Please?
[02:55] <crashd> sudo to root then ;)
[02:55] <Seveas> Stormx, perfectly normal
[02:55] <Chaotic_Shield> just type sudo <command>
[02:55] <Seveas> hit the reload button
[02:55] <Hiruko> oh alright
[02:55] <Hiruko> Thanks
[02:55] <Chaotic_Shield> then it'll ask you for your password.
[02:55] <Stormx> Seveas: OK Then x.X
[02:55] <Kyral> Hiruko: XOrg should be installed already...
[02:56] <Hiruko> I need xfree...
[02:56] <Kyral> why?
[02:56] <Hiruko> x.org has an issue with my laptop for some reason
[02:56] <Kyral> ah
[02:56] <Kyral> okay
[02:58] <voth> is there a specific way to call mono when using wine ?
[02:58] <Bateau> bah, Mplayer took ages to compile :/ its still going on...
[02:58] <{cYanide}> http://legion.gibbering.net/pastebin/viewentry.php?id=613
[02:58] <peterretief> hey all, how do I get to play a dvd, ?
[02:58] <Seveas> Bateau, that is also in the repositories...
[02:59] <Bateau> ok?
[02:59] <Seveas> peterretief, totem dvd://
[02:59] <{cYanide}> any ideas whats up for the modem from that paste?
[02:59] <Bateau> how?
[02:59] <Hiruko> Arg
[02:59] <Seveas> bateau: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:59] <Seveas> and bam, mplayer-custom is in the repositories
[02:59] <kemik> why doesnt ubuntu use videolan as standard mediaplayer ?!
[03:00] <Bateau> bah, ok. thanks Seveas
[03:00] <yuacht> Seveas, is there a wiki-page or anything else where i can check the current staus of X? i kinda wanna upg. to breezy =)
[03:00] <Kyral> kemik if you want it you can apt-get it :D
[03:00] <Kyral> thats the best part about Linux, choices
[03:00] <yuacht> kemik, because it isn't well intergrated to gnome right...? and besides there's like 1000 media players, everyone thinks their favourite should be default :D
[03:00] <DVSoftware> is composite extension loaded by default?
[03:00] <Hiruko> So ubuntu doesn't like xfree does it
[03:00] <kemik> Kyral:  i know, but it should be standard instead of totem which is unusable ;)
[03:01] <Kyral> personally one of the first things I do is to uninstall Evolution and install Thunderbird
[03:01] <Kyral> Totem is usable
[03:01] <yuacht> i myself think xine would be a nice default, works great
[03:01] <Kyral> with the w32codecs and Totem-Xine
[03:01] <DVSoftware> mplayer rulez
[03:01] <kemik> yuacht:  i just find videolan the simplest for beginners, since it supports all formats out of the box
[03:01] <Kyral> personally I lovee VLC
[03:01] <kemik> totem is usable after aptg
[03:01] <DVSoftware> i didn't tried videolan
[03:01] <kemik> aptgetting alot of libs, not good when ubuntus goal is "usability"
[03:02] <Kyral> kemik, aptget w32codecs and totem-xine
[03:02] <kemik> DVSoftware:  videolan supports DVD-menus, mplayer doesnt afaik
[03:02] <Kyral> that ain't a lot of libs :D
[03:02] <kemik> Kyral:  two too many
[03:02] <yuacht> hmm... why isn't ubuntu shipped with all codecs by default, or is that coming to breezy?
[03:03] <DVSoftware> kemik, i've used xine for dvd's
[03:03] <Kyral> to me half the fun of Linux is tweeking
[03:03] <Tomcat_> yuacht: It's a grey legal area
[03:03] <Kyral> yuacht, in a nutshell, the w32codecs package is illegal :P
[03:03] <karlwrk> kyral: you have wayyy to much time on your hands then
[03:03] <Tomcat_> yuacht: Most of the codecs have a license agreement that won't let you re-distribute them... some have patent problems, etc.
[03:03] <karlwrk> the fun of linux is getting your work done in less time, so you can go outside and do real things
[03:03] <yuacht> argh
[03:04] <Kyral> karlwrk, nope, I can go from a base Ubuntu install to my customized GNOME in two hours TOPS
[03:04] <karlwrk> well, if half the fun is tweaking, then what do yo udo after that?
[03:04] <kemik> and im not arguing that i cant do it, just saying that ubuntu is all about user-friendliness etc, and fails miserably in this department ;)
[03:04] <Kyral> use it :D
[03:04] <yuacht> i think we all need a package like the gstreamer-plugins package, that installs ALL video-codecs
[03:04] <Dr_Melectaus> Can somone help me, every time i try to open a tune in Music Player, it crashes and closes. or if it doesnt it will say "Cant pause playback" in an error box.
[03:04] <Tomcat_> karlwrk: You can never be done tweaking :D
[03:04] <karlwrk> but with only half the fun ;)
[03:04] <Stormx> Bah
[03:04] <Kyral> kemik: Its better than Gentoo :D
[03:04] <kemik> Kyral:  but not as good as windows :P
[03:04] <Stormx> I'm not gonna bother with WINE... I have no idea how to set it up
[03:04] <Tomcat_> karlwrk: Freshmeat has about 100 new versions of apps and new apps per day. Enough to tweak :D
[03:04] <Kyral> !lart kemik
[03:05] <Stormx> =O
[03:05] <karlwrk> Tomcat_: sure, but do you need them? are they actually useful?
[03:05] <kemik> just becuase ubuntu is "better tahn gentoo" we cant be satisfied
[03:05] <Stormx> You could have used that as a cup mat
[03:05] <Kyral> kemik, it was a pun :P
[03:05] <Stormx> *coaster
[03:05] <Tomcat_> karlwrk: Most aren't... but there's always a gem each week.
[03:05] <kemik> aight
[03:05] <Kyral> I'm saying I get bored with complete out of the box functionality
[03:05] <Kyral> yes its nice
[03:06] <Seveas> lol Kyral  :)
[03:06] <Kyral> but I like to dive into the OS every once and a while :D
[03:06] <Seveas> try breezy for some problems :)
[03:06] <Kyral> Not that many problems...
[03:06] <karlwrk> a gem each week? jesus you must have low standards
[03:06] <crashd> what's gonna be spanky new in breezy anyway ?
[03:06] <DVSoftware> videolan seems to be a nice player
[03:06] <DVSoftware> gonna try it
[03:06] <kemik> Kyral:  then gentoo is the distro of your choice ;P
[03:06] <Kyral> kemik: Hell no
[03:06] <karlwrk> or at least, the most diverse needs I've ever heard of
[03:06] <Kyral> Like I said I dive into my OS
[03:06] <kemik> DVSoftware:  it's the best player ive tried, and i've tried alot of them
[03:06] <Tomcat_> karlwrk: Why that? There's always somebody with a good idea that he puts into an application and puts onto freshmeat... it's not all boring stuff. :)
[03:06] <Kyral> and then I do something stupid and have to reinstall :D
[03:06] <jtan325> anyone know how to unpack rar files in ubuntu?
[03:06] <jtan325> !rar
[03:06] <ubotu> Wish i knew, jtan325
[03:07] <Kyral> unrar
[03:07] <crashd> install unrar
[03:07] <karlwrk> how many of these weekyl gems do you actually use in a months time?
[03:07] <crashd> or use unrar
[03:07] <Tomcat_> jtan325: Install "unrar-nonfree" package.
[03:07] <crashd> if it comes with it
[03:07] <kemik> unrar-nonfree
[03:07] <DVSoftware> jtan325, go to rarlabs.com, download rar for linux
[03:07] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install rar unrar-nonfree
[03:07] <DVSoftware> hm...
[03:07] <DVSoftware> ok
[03:07] <DVSoftware> :D
[03:07] <kemik> ;)
[03:07] <DVSoftware> i did it my way
[03:07] <DVSoftware> :D
[03:07] <Kyral> AptGet owns :D
[03:07] <hume> hi, i've runt into a major problem, I cannot log into x anymore (suddenly). xsession-error-file says "X server already running on display :0"
[03:07] <kemik> apt-cache search <keyword> is quite useful
[03:07] <Tomcat_> karlwrk: I don't... I look at them, find them interesting, and then throw them away... I'm a software guy so I like to test stuff and explore new ideas... it doesn't mean it has to be useful. :)
[03:08] <Seveas> hume, reboot
[03:08] <hume> anyone got advice? I use gdm for loggin in
[03:08] <karlwrk> or more constructively, Tomcat_ what are one or two of the gem's that you've seen recently?
[03:08] <hume> Seveas, i did
[03:08] <kemik> or delete /var/log/Xlog.0
[03:08] <DVSoftware> Kyral, last time i installed unrar from apt, it didn't worked for all rar files
[03:08] <Casagrande> cloudr: testing
[03:08] <DVSoftware> dunno
[03:08] <Kyral> I do enjoy making my own Backports from Breezy though
[03:08] <kemik> if that was the correct path.. :)
[03:08] <Kyral> DVSoftware, unrar-nonfree should work
[03:08] <kemik> hume:  make sure it's not running, and then delete the X lockfile
[03:08] <DVSoftware> ahhh
[03:08] <jtan325> Tomcat_, DVSoftware thanks
[03:08] <DVSoftware> np
[03:08] <Mez> Kyral: if they build straight from breezy, and you think it's worth putting into the offical repo, feel free to mailthe mailing list and suggest them
[03:08] <jtan325> Tomcat_, does this mean it's at trial version or something?
[03:09] <kemik> DVSoftware:  mmh just "unrar" doesnt work. something weird
[03:09] <Kyral> Mez its called the Backports :D
[03:09] <kemik> jtan325:  no, only closed source
[03:09] <DVSoftware> jtan325, no
[03:09] <Tomcat_> karlwrk: http://freshmeat.net/projects/synergy2/ (network map analyzer) & http://freshmeat.net/projects/gravit/ (good-looking gravity simulator)
[03:09] <Mez> Kyral, I know... I'm a backports developer
[03:09] <Kyral> oyah...
[03:09] <Kyral> you are ;D
[03:09] <Mez> Kyral, hence i'm saying if you're backporting thing
[03:09] <Tomcat_> Anyway, I need to go study. :)
[03:09] <Kyral> Sorry I just woke up :D
[03:09] <DVSoftware> hmm
[03:09] <Mez> Kyral, and they work straight from breezy sources,
[03:09] <Mez> Kyral, let me know
[03:10] <hume> kemik, what do i need to kill to be sure all is killed, exept gdm?
[03:10] <jtan325> wow sweet
[03:10] <DVSoftware> videolan does not exist in synaptic
[03:10] <Kyral> XChat 2.4.4 works :D
[03:10] <kemik> hume:  id kill most stuff running from /usr/X11/bin or so
[03:10] <Mez> Kyral, we know - it's already backported
[03:10] <DVSoftware> just videolan-doc
[03:10] <{cYanide}> ahhar!
[03:10] <Kyral> I was just about to ask that
[03:10] <DVSoftware> what's wrong?
[03:10] <{cYanide}> i think my chaps / pap file is being overwritten
[03:11] <{cYanide}> so there is no username + pass
[03:11] <kemik> hume:  but really, try to delete the x-lockfile first and start X again
[03:11] <Kyral> I built my Bluefish from source...
[03:11] <{cYanide}> er why not a yellow fish
[03:11] <{cYanide}> or red.. cuz red is faster
[03:11] <hume> kemik, which lock-file is it?' Xlog.0 isnt there....
[03:12] <cloudr> silly question about x-chat, anyway to get a sound played when somebody mentions my nick?
[03:12] <DVSoftware> hm... i can't install videolan with apt-get???
[03:12] <Bubbling_Zombie> DVSoftware : vlc ?
[03:12] <DVSoftware> hm
[03:13] <DVSoftware> what silly name
[03:13] <chrissturm> DVSoftware, thats what the app is called. videolan is the project
[03:14] <kemik> hume:  i dont remember the exact name/path, i'll have to google
[03:14] <Casagrande> cloudr: testing
[03:14] <tristia> videolan player.>?
[03:14] <kemik> vlc = videolan client, vls= videolan server
[03:14] <tristia> vlc.>?
[03:16] <Dr_Melectaus> For xmms media player/beep media player, can i apt-get some equalizer presets?
[03:17] <crimsun_> not that I know of.
[03:17] <zzyber> im installing ubuntu on my 83 year old grandmother and i wounder, she is rather new to computers but at the age of 82 she did do some microsoft exams for os and office. Now im installing ubuntu for her and i wounder if someone have tips on how to make here as comfortable as possible with this new os.
[03:17] <DVSoftware> Dr_Melectaus, i don't think so
[03:17] <Dr_Melectaus> Ok
[03:18] <kemik> hume:  remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[03:18] <DVSoftware> quicker way would be to download winamp, install it with wine and take it's presets
[03:18] <joakim> zzyber, tell her that she can't really fuck it up :)
[03:18] <joakim> worked on my dad :)
[03:18] <zzyber> joakim, already done
[03:18] <Choubaka> zzyber: Put any relevant programs on the desktop
[03:18] <joakim> Yeah
[03:18] <joakim> That too
[03:18] <hume> kemik, thx....)
[03:18] <kemik> hume:  http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages <-- and scrol down to Server is already active for display 0
[03:18] <kemik> hume:  tell me if it works ;)
[03:18] <DVSoftware> zzyber, you are kidding, right?
[03:18] <hume> kemik, just a minute
[03:19] <zzyber> Choubaka, god idea, forgot that. She had all the icons she neded on her windows desktop
[03:19] <Choubaka> zzyber: And make sure the system can function without any maintenance
[03:19] <zzyber> DVSoftware, no not at all, im really proude of here, seh is also using msn :-)
[03:19] <Choubaka> Does she have an internet connection?
[03:19] <Choubaka> ah, yes.
[03:19] <Choubaka> broadband?
[03:19] <Choubaka> :P
[03:20] <zzyber> Choubaka, the problem is that she has a ppp and i hope its possible to get everyting up when she starts firefox and down when firefox is closed
[03:20] <Choubaka> zzyber: Hmm, dunno.
[03:21] <Yokalosh> guys, i just installed ubuntu to my external usb hd and installed grub to mbr
[03:21] <Yokalosh> and now i get 'error 21' when booting
[03:22] <ketilkn> Zzyber, isn`t application icons on the top bar a better idea than on the desktop?
[03:22] <topyli> zzyber: there's a "linux dial-on-demand howto"
[03:22] <majic> I don't see a libapache2-mod-php5 package, I do see a php5-cgi package. Is there a php5 apache2 module package?
[03:22] <spanglesontoast> how do I start sshd?
[03:22] <topyli> zzyber: mini-howto really
[03:22] <Seveas> Yokalosh, then you can't boot from your USB disk...
[03:22] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:22] <equex> would the ati drivers for radeon work with k7 kernels?
[03:22] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, it's auto-started when you have it installed
[03:22] <Yokalosh> kemik: i cant boot at all
[03:22] <kemik> hume:  any luck?
[03:22] <Choubaka> yes.
[03:22] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[03:23] <Seveas> (that installs it)
[03:23] <zzyber> ketilkn, hmm.......it gets so small nut maube i should expand the bar, that way the icons stay on the same place all the time.........i will try
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:23] <equex> was that for me Choubaka ?
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> how can I see if it's running?
[03:23] <Choubaka> equex: yes.
[03:23] <kemik> oh i thought he said "restart" ssh :)
[03:23] <Yokalosh> kemik: how can i reinstall grub from either by debian,yoper,ubuntu or knoppix disk?
[03:23] <zzyber> topyli, yes........its howtos for everything, i will dig into it
[03:23] <Yokalosh> i am in knoppix now
[03:23] <Choubaka> equex: Though hmm
[03:23] <equex> thanks :) i was having doubts wether i had to switch back to i386
[03:23] <kemik> Yokalosh:  dont know
[03:23] <Choubaka> equex: If you don't have precompiled drivers for the kernel, then you will have to install them.
[03:23] <equex> because i cant get ati drivers working properly
[03:24] <cloudr> cloudr: hi
[03:24] <ketilkn> zzyber, Desktop icons gets hidden behind windows you know. You can but big icons on the bar as well. It seems I can`t remeber what the "bar" is accually called.
[03:24] <equex> Choubaka: i am just using ATI's general installer :/ no idea whats in there
[03:24] <ketilkn> zzyber, and turn of virtual desktops. :D
[03:24] <ketilkn> off
[03:24] <Chaotic_Shield> hmm
[03:25] <mash_> how can I get systray for xchat ppc?
[03:25] <zzyber> 83 years old on ubuntu........maybe that is a record. Im installing Ubuntu for her becouse i think its easy to use, no viruses, no spyware......What can be better for old people than a working computer
[03:25] <Chaotic_Shield> is there a php5 apache module?
[03:25] <Chaotic_Shield> in the repositories?
[03:25] <Choubaka> zzyber: indeed
[03:25] <Casagrande> cloudr: testing
[03:25] <reka> zzyber: the fountain of youth :P
[03:25] <Choubaka> Ubuntu is the best Linux-based OS out there.
[03:25] <topyli> zzyber: actually, it's called "diald howto"
[03:25] <zzyber> ketilkn, god idea, away with the viruals. God ideas here.....
[03:25] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, in a 3rd party repository
[03:25] <zzyber> :-)
[03:26] <ketilkn> Choubake: For what? How can one say that.
[03:26] <Chaotic_Shield> Seveas, plz2tell where?
[03:26] <Yokalosh> Choubaka: right now i would be disagreeing
[03:26] <Choubaka> ketilkn: Well, For what it does.
[03:26] <Choubaka> That is, being a good desktop OS
[03:27] <Choubaka> You can put it on a server too, though, but I'd use debian then.
[03:27] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield: PHP 5 modules can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter/php5 hoary
[03:27] <ketilkn> I went: RedHat -> SuSE -> Debian -> OS X -> Debian -> Ubuntu in the last 8 years. Ubuntu is great. But you cannot say that it is the best linux based OS.
[03:27] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield: PHP 5 modules can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter php5 hoary
[03:27] <blakamin> zzyber: might have to get my grandmother of xp... she's 84, but I have to get my audio working first ;P
[03:27] <Seveas> (last one is correct)
[03:27] <zzyber> got to go.........thanks for all ideas. /by
[03:28] <ketilkn> People like different things.
[03:28] <Choubaka> ketilkn: Well, yeah
[03:28] <ketilkn> :)
[03:28] <Chaotic_Shield> thanks Seveas
[03:28] <Choubaka> Some people even like Gentoo. :|
[03:28] <Seveas> ketilkn, sure, for people who like crappy unstable stuff Ubuntu sucks ;)
[03:28] <Seveas> But you're completely right; Ubuntu however is the best solution for the majority
[03:29] <Seveas> it's stable, releases often and has security support
[03:29] <hume> kemik, tried now, but it seemed there was no /tmp/.X0-lock file....rebooting annyway
[03:29] <Choubaka> ketilkn: I did Windows XP -> Debian -> Ubuntu -> OS X on Desktop
[03:29] <ketilkn> Sevas: People who like to watch gcc compile stuff is better of with Gentoo for instance.
[03:29] <Seveas> ketilkn, indeed
[03:30] <ketilkn> Choubaka, So you left us for os x?
[03:30] <dv__> re
[03:30] <Choubaka> And Debian -> FreeBSD -> Debian -> Ubuntu (It's a family computer) on my router
[03:30] <Choubaka> ketilkn: well, I bought a powerbook.
[03:30] <mash_> how can I get systray for xchat ppc?
[03:31] <spanglesontoast>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> ?
[03:31] <ketilkn> Choubaka, I prefer Ubuntu over OS X for working. I gave my Powerbook to my Girlfriend and bought a Fujistu Siemens, P7010
[03:31] <kemik> hume:  tried the "startx --2" ?
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> it was running
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> lol
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> soz
[03:31] <Choubaka> And OS X is magnificent. Even though Ubuntu is good, I doubt it's able to use this powerbook to its full capacity.
[03:31] <ketilkn> Choubaka, OS X Terminal is painfull.
[03:31] <Choubaka> ketilkn: yes.
[03:31] <Choubaka> ketilkn: I use iTerm :P
[03:32] <ketilkn> I miss iTunes though. I keep a Mac Mini with OS X at home.
[03:32] <Chaotic_Shield> Seveas, I have a problem with that repository.
[03:32] <Chaotic_Shield> http://paste.ubuntulinux.org/974
[03:32] <ketilkn> I am wondering if amaroK can replace iTunes.
[03:33] <hume> kemik, seems i can log in as anthoer user.....
[03:33] <deathllama> hey, is anyone awake there?
[03:33] <Choubaka> My future computer acquisitions will probably include one POC to run w2k and one App, and a cheap PC desktop to run Ubuntu on.
[03:33] <Choubaka> If I can avoid it, I'll never run windows on the desktop again :P
[03:34] <deathllama> i'm downloading ubuntu right now, i have a question about it, regarding wireless networking.
[03:34] <ketilkn> Choubaka, If you hold out for half a year or so there will be Minis running Ubuntu, OS X, and this Windows you speak of.
[03:34] <kemik> hume:  weird.. you did a "killall X" ?
[03:34] <kemik> hume:  well gotta run.. look at that X.org FAQ ..
[03:34] <Choubaka> ketilkn: Well, I won't be buying a computer that soon.
[03:34] <hume> kemik, thx...:) i'll have a look
[03:34] <kemik> np
[03:34] <djp> Choubaka: no stinking windows here my friend... apart from the ones you look out of! ;)
[03:34] <{cYanide}> hey ok i got my usb modem working:O (on ubuntu now)
[03:35] <Choubaka> djp: :)
[03:35] <{cYanide}> it was the chap-secrets file, had to enter my user/pass
[03:35] <Choubaka> I wouldn't run windows either if it wasn't for this one app that's such a pain to get to work in wine.
[03:35] <{cYanide}> but one question
[03:35] <Chaotic_Shield> Seveas?
[03:35] <{cYanide}> is there a way i can toggle an icon in my taskbar so i can see im connected?
[03:35] <ketilkn> Choubaka, Which one is that?
[03:35] <reka> deathllama: ask your question. if someone knows, they'll answer.
[03:35] <djp> oh sorry Choubaka, what app was that?
[03:35] <Choubaka> ketilkn: winny.
[03:35] <Choubaka> :
[03:36] <Choubaka> :P*
[03:36] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, hit reload when synaptic says that
[03:36] <Seveas> or do apt-get update
[03:36] <reka> {cYanide}: right-click on panel > add to panel > network monitor
[03:36] <Choubaka> Besides, having windows just in case might be good if I ever need to run some Win-only apps.
[03:37] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, and also, I think you forgot a part
[03:37] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield: PHP 5 modules can be found at deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter php5 hoary
[03:37] <ketilkn> Choubaka, Freenet p2p thing?
[03:37] <Chaotic_Shield> that's the line I put in my sources.list
[03:37] <Choubaka> ketilkn: it's a Japanese p2p program.
[03:37] <Chaotic_Shield> got it
[03:37] <Chaotic_Shield> works now, thanks Seveas
[03:37] <Choubaka> Doesn't really work on wine because it need japanese. :P
[03:38] <djp> choubaka: p2p file sharing app from Japan right
[03:38] <ketilkn> Yes. Searcing for winny gave my lots of strange characters..
[03:38] <MrMaDSeN> I neeed help... Please
[03:38] <Choubaka> There are some instruction for getting winny to work on linux.
[03:38] <{cYanide}> and one more question,  i get an error msg cannot find IGL when i try and use one of my programming apps
[03:38] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, look at the topic: just dik
[03:38] <{cYanide}> but ive installed all dev packs
[03:38] <Seveas> dik?!?
[03:38] <Choubaka> They're just in Japanese, and I'm not that good at reading it yet.
[03:39] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, look at the topic: just ask
[03:39] <Seveas> man I need coffee...
[03:39] <MrMaDSeN> No sound on my onboard intel 915G motherboard.... cant seem to find any solutions on intels hp.. what do I do ?
[03:40] <yuacht> hmm how do i make incoming mails from a certain adress always end up in a certain folder using thunderbird?
[03:40] <blakamin> MrMadsen: add me to your "no sound" collection
[03:40] <blakamin> yuacht: filter
[03:41] <MrMaDSeN> message filters   yuacht
[03:41] <topyli> MrMaDSeN: buy a $5 sound blaster or something?
[03:41] <{cYanide}> er wait
[03:41] <{cYanide}> i have an intel inbuilt thing
[03:41] <ketilkn> yuacht, Tools -> message filters
[03:41] <{cYanide}> and i get sound
[03:41] <yuacht> thanks all
[03:41] <MrMaDSeN> topyli: would be solution yes
[03:42] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, does /dev/dsp exist?
[03:42] <hume> is there a default way to set parameters for synaptics touchpad in ubuntu? i'd need to be able to disable clicks...
[03:43] <Seveas> hume, you can set it in xorg.conf
[03:43] <calc> how do you make rpc listen to an external port so that nfs will work on ubuntu?
[03:43] <MrMaDSeN> Seveas: no it dont
[03:44] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, type: lsmod | grep snd
[03:44] <Seveas> and paste the putput in a private chat or on the pastebin
[03:44] <hume> Seveas, then i'd need to restart X to make changes take effect, right?
[03:44] <Seveas> hume, correct
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> Module                  Size  Used by
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> nls_utf8                2176  1
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> nls_cp437               5888  1
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> vfat                   12928  1
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> fat                    37792  1 vfat
[03:47] <{cYanide}> erm what would be the app-get thing (cant remember the line :/) to install a pack
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> proc_intf               4100  0
[03:47] <MrMaDSeN> freq_table              4100  0
[03:47] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, NOT in the channel....
[03:48] <Seveas> {cYanide}, pack of what?
[03:48] <topyli> {cYanide}: apt-get install <package>
[03:48] <hume> {cYanide}, apt-get install <package name>?
[03:49] <{cYanide}> erm sdl
[03:49] <{cYanide}> 1.2 dev
[03:49] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install libsdl1.2-dev
[03:50] <{cYanide}> erm couldnt find pack
[03:50] <Stormx> Seveas, do you just answer questions all day? x.X
[03:50] <Seveas> !info libsdl1.2-dev
[03:50] <ubotu> libsdl1.2-dev: (Simple DirectMedia Layer development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-3ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 3440 kB
[03:50] <Seveas> !policy libsdl1.2-dev
[03:51] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:51] <Seveas> !lart himself
[03:55] <blakamin> seveas: got a second?
[03:56] <Seveas> blakamin, if you have a question, just ask :)
[03:56] <blakamin> i have an audio problem and dont want to end up like mrmadsen;P
[03:56] <blakamin> can i post you a link?
[03:57] <Seveas> post it in here, there are others too that can help :)
[03:57] <blakamin> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54593
[03:57] <{cYanide}> how can i install libsdl1.2-dev?
[03:57] <{cYanide}> its not like
[03:57] <{cYanide}> "here"
[03:57] <spanglesontoast> hey
[03:58] <spanglesontoast> does rdesktop need any special settings
[03:58] <Seveas> blakamin, do you have a /dev/dsp? does lsmod | grep snd show anything? Which soundchip do you have according to lspci?
[03:59] <jowi> spanglesontoast, are you talking about tsclient or vino-server?
[03:59] <spanglesontoast> vino-server
[03:59] <rapha> Hi all!
[03:59] <Seveas> {cYanide}, is your Ubuntu machine connected to the internet?
[03:59] <jowi> spanglesontoast, well, you can allow client to connect but not control your desktop. you can set password as well
[04:00] <spanglesontoast> i thought you could allow them to control the desktop?
[04:00] <jowi> spanglesontoast, yes you can
[04:00] <spanglesontoast> oh
[04:00] <Positron> when i try 'modprobe ndiswrapper', i get a 'FATAL : Module ndiswrapper not found' ; what must i do ?
[04:00] <jowi> spanglesontoast, but you can also allow them to see but not touch
[04:00] <Chaotic_Shield> Positron, install ndiswrapper?
[04:00] <jowi> spanglesontoast, run vino-preferences
[04:01] <rapha> Can somebody help me? When "cp breezy-install-i386.iso breezy.iso; md5sum breezy-install-i386.iso breezy.iso" returns two different MD5 sums, what is going wrong?
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> yea I configured it so they can access and touch, but basically I cannot connect using any windows clients
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> such as realvnc
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> and tightvnc
[04:01] <Seveas> Positron, sudo aptitude install linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd 32bit cpu)
[04:01] <blakamin> Seveas: no /dev/dsp... its a cs4281 and gets detected but tries for oss even tho alsa says it has it
[04:01] <jowi> spanglesontoast, you need to set realvnc to connect as VNC and not RDP
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> oh
[04:01] <Positron> Seveas : got ubuntu x86_64
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> does it use rdp by default?
[04:01] <Seveas> Positron, no ndiswrapper for you then
[04:01] <jowi> spanglesontoast, it supports both as far as i can remember
[04:01] <Positron> Chaotic_Sheild > yeah
[04:02] <Seveas> ndiswrapper+windows drivers work only on 32bit Ubuntu
[04:02] <Positron> Seveas : yet, i can load the drivers, 'driver present, hardware present' , weird...
[04:02] <Seveas> blakamin, sudo modprobe snd-cs4281
[04:03] <Seveas> Positron, hmm, that is weird
[04:03] <blakamin> brb
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> so
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> what option should I use on vnc viewer?
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> it doesn't say anything about rdp or vnc
[04:03] <Seveas> Positron, have you installed the restricted-modules package?
[04:03] <Positron> Seavas > yeah, i read of someone who made some changes on the ndiswrapper package, seems to work, 'till modprobe
[04:03] <jowi> spanglesontoast, it should.
[04:04] <Seveas> Positron, maybe compiling ndiswrapper yourself works...
[04:04] <spanglesontoast> what's protocol version 3.3?
[04:05] <Positron> Seveas > yeah, but i dont understand at which level the stuff fails, when i get this module not found
[04:05] <jowi> spanglesontoast, and in "server" you should put "ip.address:0" i think. it was a while ago i used it (a couple of years)
[04:05] <Seveas> Positron, there is simply no ndiswrapper.ko on your system
[04:05] <Positron> wonder if it's not a prob with the driver, or something like that
[04:06] <Positron> Seveas > so, how is it possible that it detects my hardware ...
[04:06] <spanglesontoast> nope the zero didn't work
[04:06] <spanglesontoast> is there a config file or something?
[04:07] <Seveas> Positron, that's not part of the kernel module :)
[04:07] <jowi> spanglesontoast, you should check realvnc.com
[04:07] <spanglesontoast> yea that's what I got jowi
[04:07] <din> anyone know what qmgr is??
[04:08] <blakamin> Seveas: no response... anything I try now says "alsa default in use"
[04:08] <jowi> spanglesontoast, try "ip.add.ress:5600"
[04:08] <spanglesontoast> aho k
[04:08] <karlwrk> din: you have more context than we do
[04:08] <karlwrk> quiet mobile graphing radio
[04:08] <Seveas> blakamin, you have a /dev/dsp now?
[04:08] <din> karlwrk, thx
[04:08] <spanglesontoast> says connection timed out
[04:08] <karlwrk> quick monkeys get running
[04:09] <spanglesontoast> does vino run on port 5600
[04:09] <spanglesontoast> ?
[04:09] <jowi> spanglesontoast, it should.
[04:09] <karlwrk> queen mother goes ruling
[04:09] <spanglesontoast> ah
[04:09] <spanglesontoast> can I change it to 5900?
[04:10] <blakamin> Seveas: No... nothing changed... ?????
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> i think that vnc in general starts on port 5900 for display # :0 then goes up by 1 for each new vnc display
[04:10] <jowi> spanglesontoast, ah no you're right. it uses 5900 as standard
[04:10] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[04:10] <jowi> spanglesontoast, silly me
[04:11] <znh> I made a new directory on /, but how to make it that normal users can write data in that directory?
[04:11] <spanglesontoast> erm
[04:11] <reka> ok, ive forgotten, how does one change the tab size in vi/m?
[04:11] <spanglesontoast> so does vino run on 5600 and normal vnc runs on 5900
[04:11] <apokryphos> znh: change the permissions either by selecting properties, or by chmodding
[04:11] <karlwrk> shiftwidth/tabstop
[04:11] <apokryphos> znh: see man chmod
[04:12] <dg-jfk> help: Anyone who knows anything about problems with printing out scaned documents?
[04:12] <{cYanide}> any ideas on fixing a  missing IGL error?
[04:12] <znh> apokryphos: hm ofc
[04:12] <reka> karlwrk: cheers
[04:12] <reka> karlwrk: er, are they equivalent?
[04:12] <karlwrk> no :)
[04:13] <karlwrk> :help shiftwidth and :help tabstop and :help expandtab for more info
[04:13] <apokryphos> znh: chmod -R 777 /somedirectory  -- for example, for it to be accessible to everyone.
[04:13] <jowi> spanglesontoast, nope. vino and normal vnc runs on 5900. BUT vino-server only starts when a user logs in to gnome so only port 5900 is in use. for a "normal" vnc server like tightvnc the server is started for each screen (5901, 5902 etc)
[04:13] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[04:13] <apokryphos> znh: 775 for the group only; and they can read/write in it.
[04:13] <spanglesontoast> well I do have my router forwarded to it
[04:13] <znh> apokryphos: I know, but that's not really what I am searching for, I just want to make 'znh' as the default owner instead of root
[04:13] <spanglesontoast> and I heard ubuntu doesn't come with a firewall
[04:13] <spanglesontoast> so i'm guessing something odd is going on
[04:13] <apokryphos> znh: chown znh:znh /somedirectory
[04:13] <reka> karlwrk: right you are.  thanks again. :)
[04:14] <znh> spanglesontoast: linux doesn't really need a firewall :-)
[04:14] <karlwrk> shock horror! no firewall! what on earth will I do!
[04:14] <znh> apokryphos: oh yes that was it! - thanks
[04:14] <spanglesontoast> how do I check to see if it's running?
[04:14] <znh> spanglesontoast: there are log files in ~/.vnc
[04:15] <spanglesontoast> wheres that?
[04:15] <znh> -.-
[04:15] <znh> just do cd ~/.vnc
[04:16] <znh> ~ stands for the home directory
[04:16] <znh> (equal to $HOME)
[04:16] <dazjorz> Back
[04:16] <dazjorz> :D
[04:16] <znh> wb :)
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> yep
[04:16] <dazjorz> ty
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> it ain't there
[04:16] <dazjorz> what ?
[04:16] <znh> what isn't there?
[04:16] <dazjorz> hey erm
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> that file/dir
[04:16] <dazjorz> nvm.
[04:17] <dazjorz> lol
[04:17] <dazjorz> ~/.vnc ?
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> yep it ain't there
[04:17] <znh> as what user did you run a vncserver?
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> it's called vino-server
[04:17] <znh> oh nvm then.. don't know thatone
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> it comes with the os
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> called remote desktop
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> or rdesktop
[04:18] <crashd> aye
[04:18] <crashd> teh rdp
[04:18] <znh> teh leetisch breezah talkz0r
[04:18] <spanglesontoast> how do I access it
[04:18] <crashd> hehe
[04:18] <crashd> teh for the win
[04:18] <znh> spanglesontoast: I think vnc is easier..
[04:19] <spanglesontoast> I'm not on my machine
[04:19] <spanglesontoast> I'm at a mates
[04:19] <drcode> what I need to do in .vnc/xstartup so xfce will load?
[04:19] <znh> ah, and now you want to access it
[04:19] <drcode> from vncserver?
[04:19] <znh> drcode: what about exec xfce
[04:19] <spanglesontoast> i could install it
[04:20] <drcode> let me try it
[04:20] <Marianitu> HI
[04:20] <Marianitu> Hi
[04:20] <Chris_Tucker> whats the dpkg command for xorg config again?
[04:20] <drcode> its xstartup or Xstartup?
[04:20] <Chris_Tucker> i need to write it down this time =X
[04:20] <topyli> Chris_Tucker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:21] <Chris_Tucker> ty
[04:21] <znh> drcode: I bet it is xstartup
[04:21] <drcode> it dosnt work
[04:21] <drcode> I did exec xfce
[04:21] <drcode> but still gnome is loading
[04:22] <dazjorz> Lol
[04:22] <dazjorz> now I installed Linux on my own pc and...
[04:22] <znh> and..
[04:22] <dazjorz> I don't have anything to do. -.-'
[04:22] <znh> :-D
[04:22] <dazjorz> Someone knows something funny to do ?
[04:22] <znh> you have graphical acceleratoin?
[04:22] <dazjorz> Ah yes I do
[04:22] <dazjorz> Brb...
[04:22] <znh> -_-
[04:22] <dazjorz> Someone has a Linux PlayStation 2 emulator ?
[04:23] <spanglesontoast> no
[04:23] <dazjorz> :(
[04:23] <spanglesontoast> it doesn't exist
[04:23] <dazjorz> why not
[04:23] <znh> why don't you play Enemy-Territory
[04:23] <spanglesontoast> it doesn't.
[04:23] <drcode> zhn:no luck
[04:24] <spanglesontoast> either way
[04:24] <dazjorz> i'll search google
[04:24] <dazjorz> and if i can't find anything
[04:24] <dazjorz> i'll....i'lll....
[04:24] <dazjorz> use WINE !!
[04:24] <dazjorz> Hah
[04:24] <znh> oh he's getting evil
[04:24] <topyli> just play some xgalaga :)
[04:24] <jowi> spanglesontoast, do you have the ubuntubox nearby?
[04:25] <Pega> "The glxgears program will output an FPS (Frames Per Second) rating to the command line. If 3D acceleration is correctly enabled for your video card, then the reported FPS should be well over 500 FPS at the default window size. If the output shows less than 500 FPS then you should double check your 3D setup." How do I check my 3D setup?
[04:26] <spanglesontoast> how do I start daemons?
[04:26] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: for example?
[04:26] <znh> Pega: what graphical card have you got?
[04:26] <spanglesontoast> httpd
[04:26] <DevGet> Does it works to update to breezy now?
[04:26] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: you have apache installed?
[04:26] <Pega> znh, Radeon 9800 pro
[04:27] <dbernar1> DevGet: /topic
[04:27] <znh> Pega: fglrxinfo will give you information
[04:27] <spanglesontoast> ya
[04:27] <topyli> DevGet: the upgrade will probably work ok. the system, however, is broken :)
[04:27] <reka> Pega: glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:27] <DevGet> mk
[04:28] <Pega> reka, direct rendering: No
[04:28] <Pega> :(
[04:28] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: did you try going to http://localhost in your browser?
[04:28] <Pega> Can I change it somehow
[04:28] <spanglesontoast> nope cos it's not running
[04:28] <reka> Pega: then you don't have your 3d setup. :)
[04:28] <reka> Pega: have you installed drivers?
[04:28] <Pega> On ubuntu... avtually... propably not. :D
[04:28] <reka> Pega: easy way:
[04:28] <Pega> Thanks for reminding
[04:28] <reka> !ati
[04:28] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:29] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: did you try? casuse I think it is...
[04:29] <reka> Pega: if you want to use the official ati.com drivers, search the forums, there's a topic on it
[04:29] <spanglesontoast> how would you know
[04:29] <sml> guys ... i am so close with my WLAN connection .. can anyone help in the last stage :)
[04:29] <sml> [23:55]  <jpatrick> last stage?
[04:29] <Pega> ok, thanks reka and znh.
[04:29] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: hows that work?
[04:30] <reka> Pega: be warned it's a little more fiddly and apparently, the performance gain isn't that big.
[04:30] <MrMaDSeN> ok... anyone know a good soundcard that works with linux ?
[04:30] <spanglesontoast> either way how to get I get a normal daemon working
[04:30] <spanglesontoast> or running
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> MrMaDSeN,  the soundblaster AUdigys are good.
[04:30] <spanglesontoast> is there a way like service name start
[04:30] <spanglesontoast> etc
[04:30] <Pega> reka, ok. A bit is better than none anyways. :)
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> MrMaDSeN,  depends on your budget.  and what you are doing.
[04:31] <dbernar1> /etc/init.d/***d start|restart|stop usually.
[04:31] <reka> Pega: i suggest following the link i posted.  if you're not happy with that performance, then try the official ati.com drivers.
[04:31] <dbernar1> I dont think apache works that way. just sudo apache restart should work, I think.
[04:31] <reka> *driver
[04:31] <MrMaDSeN> Dr_Willis: just mp3 and video.. nothing fance
[04:31] <MrMaDSeN> fancy even
[04:31] <dbernar1> sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:32] <dbernar1> that works on debian.
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> MrMaDSeN,  ive rarely had issues with the Audigy cards. they got then for around $40-60 for the loow end ones.. Not sure about the new LOW end 24bit cards -  they are a different chipset  i think.
[04:32] <hadi57> hello, i need to use arabic language in office any help?
[04:32] <Pega> reka, ok
[04:32] <Stormx> Hey pizazzs
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> ah
[04:32] <Yokaloshi> how do i reinstall grub to mbr after the windows boot loader has taken over?
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> ty
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> oops
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> putty being a pain lol
[04:33] <spanglesontoast> erm it says apache not found
[04:33] <reka> Yokaloshi: there's a wiki page on that
[04:33] <jond3rd> Yokaloshi, use grub-install
[04:33] <dbernar1> hadi57: this is the only thing the wiki gives me when I search it. Maybe you can email thie guy referenced: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArabicTeam?highlight=%28arabic%29
[04:33] <reka> can't remember where though
[04:33] <Pega> reka, ehen I "sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver" it says that the packet fglrx-driver doesn't have installable option or sumthing.
[04:33] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: try just sudo apache restart
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> i did
[04:34] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: alternatively, you dont have t installed. sudo aptitude install apache, or apache2 to install it.
[04:34] <dbernar1> do you use apache, or apache2?
[04:34] <hadi57> thanks dbenarl
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> i used a cd install with the server option
[04:34] <dbernar1> hadi57: /msg ubotu nicktab
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> odd
[04:34] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: ha. that does not install servers...
[04:34] <reka> Pega: what's the full error?
[04:35] <reka> Pega: the critical line at least
[04:35] <Yokaloshi> jond3rd: so all i do is grub-install in the recovery console?
[04:35] <hadi57> i offer my help in translating the complete document as well
[04:35] <Pega> reka, you want me to copy the line? umm... it is in finnish...
[04:35] <spanglesontoast> oh
[04:35] <dbernar1> dbernar1: just a foundation onto which to build one. sudo aptitude install the version of apache you want.
[04:35] <dazjorz> erm
[04:35] <dazjorz> back
[04:35] <spanglesontoast> so it only installing the normal stuff for a server
[04:35] <dazjorz> lets go search Google....
[04:35] <spanglesontoast> like the kernel
[04:35] <sml> my WLAN is so close yet so far :) should i give up & delete kubuntu and install ubuntu?
[04:35] <reka> Pega: er, try anyway
[04:35] <drcode> is it ok if vncserver Xrealvnc :1 -desktop X (I want to run xfce) ?
[04:35] <dazjorz> " linux playstation 2 emulator"...
[04:36] <drcode> work greatg
[04:36] <drcode> I try ps2 emu pcsx2
[04:36] <dazjorz> drcode ?
[04:36] <Pega> "E: Paketilla fglrx-driver ei ole asennettavaa valintaa" Would be sumthing like E: Packet fglrx-driver doesn't have installable option. :S
[04:36] <dazjorz> drcode: pcsx2 is that a linux emulator for the play station 2 ?
[04:36] <Ok_Cancel> Hi, I've bought a Compaq R4000 notebook, and ubuntu don't work fine, Some advice?
[04:36] <Pega> I guess i should change the whole linux to english. would be easier to get help
[04:37] <reka> Yokaloshi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:37] <sml> Ok_cancel .. what is the problem?
[04:37] <Pega> Yesterday I did it with some locals command, but it changed back to fiinnish again
[04:37] <Keegan> hi, I am trying to get ndiswrapper to work
[04:37] <Ok_Cancel> it works slowly
[04:37] <Ok_Cancel> too slow
[04:37] <DarKEsT> hi people
[04:37] <dazjorz> hi
[04:37] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: dont quote me on all this. But, I am fairly sure there are no servers installed. You can always find out if something is installed by the letter that shows up beside a package name when you search for it using": aptitude search package, if there is an i beside the package name, it is installed. a p means you can install it, and a v means it is not a real package.
[04:37] <sml> there is some good ndiswrapper info around
[04:37] <DarKEsT> I have one question
[04:37] <Keegan> when I call "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper", it returns the error:
[04:37] <Ok_Cancel> this's my principal problem
[04:37] <Keegan> "Operation not permitted"
[04:37] <reka> Pega: not necessary.  can you 'apt-cache show' it?  you might need to enable universe/multiverse
[04:37] <dazjorz> Yes, DarkEsT ?
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> ah
[04:37] <sml> ahh yess Keegan
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> i did try httpd
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> i just thought it was odd
[04:38] <sml> i had that!
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> that's all the dvd version installs servers
[04:38] <Keegan> sml: wat did u do?
[04:38] <DarKEsT> why is not aviable linux-image 2.6.12 on repository?
[04:38] <crimsun> DarKEsT: linux-image-2.6.12* are only in Breezy
[04:38] <dv__> Breezy?
[04:38] <topyli> DarKEsT: because hoary uses 2.6.10 :)
[04:38] <DarKEsT> Breezy?
[04:38] <Pega> reka, that command tols "E: no packets were found" or sumthing like that when translated. I think i have enabled those when i got the mp3 supports etc, but i'll check
[04:39] <reka> Pega: hang on, are you on warty or hoary?
[04:39] <DarKEsT> i know only hoary
[04:39] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: I think the diff between a server and a normal install is that a server install does not install a graphical user environment, like gnome, or such.
[04:39] <Mejobloggs> how do i connect to the internet on dialup ?
[04:39] <dbernar1> Mejobloggs: very slowly;)
[04:39] <Mejobloggs> hehe
[04:39] <sml> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:39] <Tomcat_> harsh :)
[04:40] <Pega> reka, hoary
[04:40] <sml> Keegan ... did u work through the procedures?
[04:40] <reka> Pega: you're doing the wrong instructions. :)
[04:40] <spanglesontoast> ah
[04:40] <DarKEsT> crimsun and, Can I upgrade to Breezy?
[04:40] <Keegan> sml:I already printed that page, that is what I am trying nto do
[04:40] <spanglesontoast> fair enough
[04:40] <Mejobloggs> im looking for a little connect button
[04:40] <topyli> DarKEsT: distributions don't change software versions on stable releases
[04:40] <crimsun> DarKEsT: not recommended yet.
[04:40] <reka> Pega: you're looking at the warty ones.
[04:40] <Pega> reka, lol. :D Well, atleast a thing that is easy to fix. :)
[04:40] <DarKEsT> ok if I understand Breezy aren't stable?
[04:40] <Keegan> I am having difficulties completing step #4
[04:41] <crimsun> DarKEsT: it's getting there
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> which is better apache2 or apache?
[04:41] <Pega> reka, I see, a few lines lower seem to be hoary. :D
[04:41] <reka> Pega: yep :)
[04:41] <Keegan> sml: any suggestions?
[04:41] <reka> Pega: always helps to read headings. :D
[04:42] <klaym> what is the equivalent to Windows notepad on Ubuntu?
[04:42] <Pega> reka, yeah. yesterday I spent 3 full hours trying to figure out why the reposotories weren't being used: i forgot to check the boxes, tho I did everything else. I am no good with instructions.
[04:42] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: hum...I use apache, just cause I use it. If you are not running a business or anything very important, I think there will be little to none difference on which you choose.
[04:42] <reka> klaym: gedit is the default text editor
[04:42] <Keegan> klaym: Gedit
[04:42] <dazjorz> wtf ???
[04:42] <dazjorz> dazjorz is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:42] <klaym> ok
[04:42] <dazjorz> what do i do ?
[04:42] <DarKEsT> ok, and u when 2.6.12 is aviable for hoary?
[04:42] <dazjorz> :S
[04:42] <DarKEsT> *know
[04:42] <dazjorz> what the fuck is the sudoers file ...
[04:42] <dazjorz> :\
[04:43] <reka> !root
[04:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:43] <sml> Keegan .. not specifically ... the first time I had the error .. then i installed kubuntu which was fine, then went back to ubuntu and it worked this time!
[04:43] <reka> dazjorz: go there
[04:43] <dbernar1> dazjorz: are you the admin on your computer?
[04:43] <dazjorz> yes
[04:43] <dbernar1> did you install the ubuntu?
[04:43] <dazjorz> ofcourse
[04:43] <hass> what is : The package Tcl/Tk, version 8.3 ?? plz help
[04:43] <Mejobloggs> so, where do i find something so i can press a button to get it to connect to the internet over diaalup?
[04:43] <dbernar1> is this the same user youcreated on install?
[04:43] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[04:43] <Keegan> sml: well, I have restarted it already a few times, and have not been able to get it to work
[04:43] <dazjorz> dbernarl: Yes
[04:43] <reka> oh.  *that* bug.
[04:44] <dbernar1> dazjorz: /msg ubotu nicktab
[04:44] <Keegan> sml: I am dual-booting, that doesn't affect it does it?
[04:44] <dbernar1> dazjorz: that should work then. you should be a sudoer.
[04:44] <reka> sml: are you an SML programmer? :)
[04:44] <Mejobloggs> meeh, no connect button, where is it
[04:44] <dazjorz> test
[04:44] <dbernar1> dazjorz: what is the command you used that you got that error?
[04:45] <dazjorz> sudo mkdir /programs
[04:45] <dazjorz> asked me for password
[04:45] <dazjorz> and i filled in the good password, i think lol
[04:45] <hass> what is The package Tcl/Tk, version 8.3 ?? plz help
[04:45] <dazjorz> i don't seem to be in the sudoers file
[04:45] <Keegan> does anyone else have any clues about ndiswrapper?
[04:45] <dbernar1> dazjorz: your password, off course. It would give you a diff error for a mistake in the password.
[04:45] <dazjorz> Hass: Its a package, .
[04:45] <black13> is it possible to have a directory in read only file system linked to r/w file system
[04:45] <hass> what package?
[04:46] <dazjorz> dbernarl: So, how do I put myself in the ' sudoers' file
[04:46] <hass> is it in ubuntu?
[04:46] <dazjorz> Hass: Dah. The Tcl/Tk package
[04:46] <spanglesontoast> what do I type to get all the latest updates
[04:46] <cianci10> hi. does anyone know if there is a yahoo! messenger for ubuntu?
[04:46] <spanglesontoast> for upgrades
[04:46] <dazjorz> Hass: Yes, think so. Maybe apt-get install tcl/tk or something
[04:46] <dbernar1> dazjorz: /msg ubotu nicktab; sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[04:46] <dazjorz> ciancil0: Gaim
[04:46] <cianci10> oh ok
[04:46] <Keegan> spanglesontoast: u could just use synaptic
[04:47] <spanglesontoast> keegan funny enough not everyone uses a desktop
[04:47] <Keegan> okay, moving on. I am trying to get my mousepad to work
[04:47] <dazjorz> dbernarl: I did su, not sudo, because i can't use sudo :P But it works now, thanks
[04:48] <dazjorz> dbernarl: su ; vi sudoers ; exit
[04:48] <dazjorz> it works now
[04:48] <Keegan> but I am not able to edit the xprg.conf to get it to work
[04:48] <Keegan> *xorg.conf
[04:48] <reka> Keegan: how does one break a mousepad? :P
[04:48] <Keegan> the scrolling on the side doesn't work
[04:48] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade everything. ALways check your sources.list for non ubuntu repos, even backports before you do that. keep only the official repos when upgrading.
[04:49] <Keegan> the rest of it works fine
[04:49] <topyli> dazjorz: it's not a very good idea to edit the sudoers file directly. use visudo
[04:49] <dbernar1> dazjorz: good work, weird you could edit sudoers directly, I thought you couldnt do that.
[04:49] <topyli> you can but you shouldn't
[04:49] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[04:49] <dazjorz> Why not ?
[04:49] <dbernar1> no idea.
[04:49] <dazjorz> Other question.
[04:50] <spanglesontoast> erm what key do i press to install stuff
[04:50] <spanglesontoast> using aptitude
[04:50] <spanglesontoast> cos it says g
[04:50] <dbernar1> I never use aptitude that way.
[04:50] <topyli> dazjorz: visudo checks that the file is correct before saving and closing
[04:50] <spanglesontoast> but it doesn't work
[04:50] <dazjorz> Ah
[04:50] <dbernar1> sudo aptitude install pacjkageName is how I use it.
[04:50] <dazjorz> it said permission denied
[04:50] <dazjorz> but well, I just copied the root line
[04:50] <dazjorz> but changed root into dazjorz
[04:50] <dazjorz> so
[04:50] <dbernar1> ah
[04:50] <dazjorz> dazjorz ALL=(ALL) ALL
[04:50] <dbernar1> hah
[04:50] <dazjorz> and it works, so, .. :)
[04:51] <dbernar1> give your root privileges back, I think./
[04:51] <dazjorz> But Erm other question
[04:51] <dbernar1> add a line like the one you haev..
[04:51] <dbernar1> so you can have one line for the root, and one for you.
[04:51] <dazjorz> In SuSE when I did 'dir' i had menus that showed a lot of things, under which the name, colored by file settings, line by line
[04:51] <ubuntu_> essai
[04:52] <spanglesontoast> ...
[04:52] <dazjorz> but if I do 'dir' in Ubuntu, I get an ugly list of just things after each other, not sorted in any way or beautifulled
[04:52] <dazjorz> how do I get the old dir mode ?
[04:52] <dbernar1> ls?
[04:52] <Pega> reka, Now it returns: "direct rendering: Yes". \o/. Thanks for everything. :)
[04:52] <crashd> dazjorz: you need to do a ln to /usr/bin/dir
[04:52] <dbernar1> ls -l?
[04:52] <crashd> with the options you want
[04:52] <crashd> or create a 'dir' script
[04:52] <ubuntu_> bonjour  tous de VERSAILLES ;-) et bon surf
[04:52] <dazjorz> bash: /usr/bin/dir: No such file or directory
[04:52] <crashd> some distros have 'dir' as a link to ease the windows crossover
[04:52] <reka> Pega: no probs.  tried out something for performance?
[04:52] <hunger> How do I use the restricted modules in breezy? modprobe claims to load them fine, but the HW does not work nor does lsmod list the module as loaded.
[04:53] <dbernar1> bonjour, ubuntu_. #ubuntu-fr speaks more french.
[04:53] <dazjorz> dir is linked to /bin/ls
[04:53] <dbernar1> good, try ls -l
[04:53] <dazjorz> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:53] <topyli> dazjorz: ubuntu probably hasn't bothered to beautify dir because it's not even a real unix command :)
[04:53] <dazjorz> brb
[04:53] <Pega> reka, not yet, but the there is some wierd command that brings 3 whjeels to my screen... found it somewhere, gnna check it agains oon
[04:53] <dazjorz> gotta go eating, i'll ask this question again later
[04:53] <dbernar1> I am hungry.
[04:54] <dbernar1> I always tell you guys that, just so you know.
[04:54] <topyli> i am eating :)
[04:54] <crashd> dazjorz: you need to unlink and relink it with the options you require
[04:54] <reka> Pega: glxgears.  not really a good way of benchmarking though.  better to try out a game or something.
[04:55] <kestas> how do you tell if a wireless pcmcia card works in linux?
[04:56] <topyli> its owner is amazed and insanely happy :)
[04:56] <Chaotic_Shield> does your computer work without an ethernet cable? then it works.
[04:56] <dbernar1> kestas, before you buy it, or once its inside your computer?
[04:56] <Pega> reka, I am just googling stuff about this cedega-thingie for games. Somewhere in it's requirements it mentioned that gear thingie and said that if everything is okay, you should get over 500. i got like 339 or so before these drivers.
[04:56] <kestas> dbernar1, before I buy it
[04:56] <reka> Pega: and after?
[04:56] <Pega> 2894.600 FPS
[04:57] <Pega> ;)
[04:57] <reka> Pega: that's better isn't it? :)
[04:57] <Keegan> once I get the sudo tar.gz, what do I do with it to edit the xorg.conf?
[04:58] <anacron> 326 from what?
[04:58] <Pega> ooh, once got to 8110.200 FPS... A lot better. :) My maths was never pefect, but the way I see it, 8110 > 339, so I'm happy.
[04:58] <Tomcat_> I heard glxgears is not a good measurement.
[04:58] <topyli> anacron: glxgears
[04:58] <dbernar1> kestas: well, there is a list of supported cards on the ndiswrapper page.
[04:58] <anacron> oh, i get something like 4000 fps
[04:58] <reka> Tomcat_: it isn't
[04:58] <topyli> anacron: i guess we don't have the same card :)
[04:59] <anacron> topyli: well i know we don't
[04:59] <rapha> Is it possible to remotely lock the display over an SSH session?
[04:59] <Tomcat_> rapha: Good question :D
[04:59] <spanglesontoast> is there a go place to go to find out tunes to make with using beep?
[04:59] <Tomcat_> rapha: You can start the VNC server, then lock it the way you always would... but I wonder if there's a command.
[04:59] <dbernar1> spanglesontoast: I dont understand that question.
[04:59] <spanglesontoast> theres a program called
[04:59] <spanglesontoast> beep
[05:00] <spanglesontoast> that allows you to make a beep sound outta your pc speaker
[05:00] <wingo> sorry to bother, but does anyone know if xev can be had for breezy?
[05:00] <spanglesontoast> you can change the pitch and speed
[05:00] <dbernar1> aha, so make some sound, ok, no, I dont know that.
[05:00] <spanglesontoast> wondering if theres any sites that you can use a shell script
[05:00] <topyli> that must be one of the most annoying programs there is :)
[05:01] <topyli> along with sl perhaps
[05:01] <rapha> Tomcat_: well, the person using the PC would be able to prevent that, right? :-)
[05:01] <spanglesontoast> i know
[05:01] <Nern> hey hey hey
[05:01] <spanglesontoast> just it would be fun to make a script to make some sounds when I get an mail on the local machine
[05:01] <om_> can anyone point me to a decent guide to make my own deb/apt-gettable packages
[05:01] <dbernar1> yo
[05:02] <Tomcat_> rapha: Yes.
[05:02] <om_> after instaling fluxbox from apt-get and realizing it wasn't up to date nor, complete I had to build from source
[05:02] <dbernar1> http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/jcn/documentation/html-only/packaging.html and http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html om_
[05:02] <dazjorz> Back.
[05:03] <dazjorz> I'll repeat my question.
[05:03] <dazjorz> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:03] <spanglesontoast> bitchx is hard to see people typing etc
[05:03] <dazjorz> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:03] <topyli> om_: the easy way: checkinstall. the correct way: consult the apt howto and the debian new maintainers' guide
[05:04] <topyli> om_: the apt howto also tells you how to build the repository
[05:05] <rapha> Tomcat_: I've found something... xlockmore or xlockmore-gl
[05:05] <om_> topyli: thanks
[05:06] <dbernar1> so, dazjorz did you install that then?
[05:06] <dazjorz> dbernarl: gtk or libgtk are not found as modules on apt-get, the file libgtk-1.2.so.0 is not found by locate, ...
[05:07] <Joose^> hi
[05:07] <spanglesontoast> it would just be cool to have something to allow me to put in lots of tunes
[05:07] <dazjorz> where should it be ?
[05:07] <dbernar1> dazjorz: aptitude search libgtk1.2
[05:07] <dbernar1> tell me if it has an i to the left of it.
[05:07] <Chaotic_Shield> omg
[05:07] <Chaotic_Shield> yes
[05:07] <Chaotic_Shield> I love you mIRC
[05:07] <Joose^> i have a problem installing my modem... intel 537 ep
[05:07] <^thehatsrule^> lo spanglesontoast ;p
[05:07] <dazjorz> thanks, dbernarl
[05:08] <dazjorz> it doesn't have an i .
[05:08] <dazjorz> it says
[05:08] <dazjorz> p   <file>         :   <description>
[05:08] <dazjorz> for 5 files
[05:08] <dazjorz> files are beginning with libgtk1.2
[05:08] <dazjorz> i'll get them all, thanks
[05:08] <Tomcat_> rapha: Not installed on a default Install, right?
[05:08] <dbernar1> i A libgtk1.2                                                             - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X?
[05:09] <spanglesontoast> you hats
[05:09] <dbernar1> aha
[05:09] <om_> anyone else have probs with the fluxbox from repositories?
[05:09] <dbernar1> ok, sorry, misread
[05:09] <spanglesontoast> soz was looking at my other terminal
[05:09] <rapha> Tomcat_: nope
[05:09] <Tomcat_> rapha: Can you tell the prog what screen to lock?
[05:09] <dazjorz> no
[05:09] <dazjorz> p   libgtk1.2                       - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X
[05:09] <^thehatsrule^> spanglesontoast: who else ;p
[05:09] <rapha> Tomcat_: doesn't matter though, I'm on the machine by SSH
[05:09] <dv__> is there a "native linux/unix widget set"?
[05:09] <rapha> Tomcat_: let me see...
[05:09] <dv__> like in Windows
[05:09] <Joose^> have someone here install driver of that modem?
[05:09] <dv__> there is one
[05:09] <Tomcat_> rapha: Because if you lock the current screen with SSH, it won't lock the one somebody else is using...
[05:09] <dv__> and in OSX there is cocoa
[05:09] <rapha> Tomcat_: Well, you just need to export DISPLAY accordingly
[05:09] <dbernar1> ya, I misread, I think you should try jusdt installing that one for now...
[05:09] <Seveas> dv__, in Linux you can choose :)
[05:09] <topyli> dv__: we have several
[05:09] <Tomcat_> rapha: Alright then... should work. :)
[05:10] <dazjorz> dbernarl: I'm downloading.
[05:10] <dv__> so the actual reference toolkit would be motif, right?
[05:10] <Seveas> GTK2 is the default for gnome, Qt for KDE
[05:10] <dazjorz> I love apt-get
[05:10] <topyli> athena!
[05:10] <spanglesontoast> annoying my dad with beep
[05:10] <mjr> dv__, motif would not be an actual reference toolkit on linux systems
[05:10] <rapha> Tomcat_: Does work. I just tried it.
[05:10] <spanglesontoast> hehe
[05:10] <dv__> i read once that motif is the native widgets toolkit for unix
[05:11] <dv__> now that sounds weird
[05:11] <dv__> :D
[05:11] <topyli> dv__: it used to be the toolkit for CDE and other such old stuff
[05:11] <dbernar1> weasnt motif the Java look and feel? cant remember now.
[05:11] <karlwrk> dv__: windows doesn't really have a native one either
[05:11] <karlwrk> it has a whole bunch of different ones too.
[05:11] <Pega> How do I open ect/apt/sources.list so, that is write also, not read only. How in hell do they think I can edit a read only file? :S
[05:12] <brokenbox> so i boot up today and my gnome panel is all whack,  the volume and date are on the far left hand side instead of the right and it wont let me move them, any ideas?
[05:12] <karlwrk> look at how many different file open dialogs there are in windows
[05:12] <Pega> Do I need to switch to root or something?
[05:12] <dv__> karlwrk, it does, actually
[05:12] <dbernar1> Pega: use sudo.
[05:12] <rapha> Tomcat_: My girl friend asked me to lock her screen after some time, so her little brother doesn't spend all day playing some game
[05:12] <dv__> you dont draw your own widgets usually
[05:12] <Chaotic_Shield> Pega, in a terminal, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <dv__> the system does this for you
[05:12] <karlwrk> linux just suffers from the fact that the differet toolkits look substatially different to each other
[05:12] <Pega> ok, ty
[05:12] <Chaotic_Shield> you need to be root in order to edit anything outside of your home directory.
[05:12] <karlwrk> dv__: be very careful there, "the system" is very vague
[05:12] <dv__> yes
[05:13] <Joose^> how i can entry mode "root" on ubuntu?
[05:13] <karlwrk> there's not just mfc
[05:13] <dv__> i dont mean mfc
[05:13] <dv__> I mean the raw win32 api
[05:13] <reka> karlwrk: wouldn't that 'sufferance' be wanted behaviour?
[05:13] <karlwrk> right,
[05:13] <dv__> and there *are* UI functions
[05:13] <rapha> Is there another BitTorrent tracker for the Breezy Colony 2 CD, or just the one from cdimage.ubuntulinux.org? Because there's no seeders left for that one :-/
[05:13] <Tomcat_> rapha: :D
[05:13] <dv__> which every app uses
[05:13] <dbernar1> Joose^: visit wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:13] <dv__> well, almost every app
[05:13] <karlwrk> bullshit
[05:13] <dv__> some cross-platform apps draw their own apps, which looks very ugly
[05:14] <dv__> because it doesnt fit with the rest
[05:14] <mjr> was there a way to give kernel parameters on the live cd?
[05:14] <karlwrk> most people use the prebuilt widgets that come with their dev environment, which might be written in raw win32
[05:14] <karlwrk> but that's just like on linux
[05:14] <karlwrk> you can use the widgets from wx, or from gtk, or from motif, or from qt, or wherever
[05:15] <rommer> when firefox opens it goes to university of minnesotas web page even though i have my home page set as something else, any ideas bout this?
[05:15] <sproingie> the looks can be made more or less the same, but the feel is radically different
[05:15] <sproingie> i have both gtk and qt using plastik, but i'll never make their dialogs feel equivalent
[05:15] <dv__> yes, and fltk/gtk/qt/motif/athena/fox all draw things their way
[05:15] <topyli> dv__: on linux you can get a nice, chaotic desktop by using motif, qt and gtk apps, along with emacs and other old athena-based X apps :)
[05:15] <reka> rommer: [1]  checked preferences? [2]  how are you launching it?
[05:16] <reka> actually, disregard [1] . :)
[05:16] <reka> you already answered it
[05:16] <Chaotic_Shield> no highlight, kthx.
[05:17] <dazjorz> Erm
[05:17] <dazjorz> Guys
[05:17] <rommer> reka, i have starterbar gdesklet which i just drag n dropped the icon from applications->internet in gnome menu to
[05:17] <dazjorz> someone knows pcsx2 ?
[05:17] <dazjorz> it says
[05:17] <dazjorz> "PCSX2 needs to be configured"
[05:17] <dazjorz> and then
[05:17] <dazjorz> "Could not open the plugins/ directory"
[05:17] <dazjorz> 2 times
[05:17] <dazjorz> and then some strange screen
[05:17] <dbernar1> is that a package name, pcsx2?
[05:17] <dazjorz> its a progra
[05:17] <dazjorz> program*
[05:17] <reka> rommer: check what command the starter icon actually calls
[05:18] <dazjorz> LOL
[05:18] <dazjorz> there is a plugins directory
[05:18] <dazjorz> but it says "could not open the Plugins directory"
[05:18] <dazjorz> it works now
[05:18] <dazjorz> just the Bios ln -s
[05:19] <dazjorz> stupid programmers
[05:19] <topyli> it's locked. press the kick button before trying to loot
[05:19] <rommer> reka, firefox %u
[05:19] <reka> rommer: remove the %u
[05:19] <rommer> yea i tried
[05:19] <dazjorz> wait
[05:19] <rommer> ill try again
[05:19] <dazjorz> there is no bios dir
[05:20] <dabaR> dazjorz: more likely that the distro specific stuff does not allow it to be installed as they used a diff distro.
[05:20] <rommer> reka, hmm that seemed to work, b4 when i took the %u away i couldnt even run firefox
[05:21] <spanglesontoast> how do i do a command that doesn't close when i close the terminal
[05:21] <luminerd> I'm going to kill something.........
[05:21] <luminerd> I finally got the mouse working
[05:21] <spanglesontoast> would it be a shell script
[05:21] <spanglesontoast> ?
[05:21] <luminerd> now, without explination, it NO LONGER WORKS.
[05:21] <reka> rommer: righto then.  i can't actually remember what the %u does thouhg. :-/
[05:21] <rapha> Is there another BitTorrent tracker for the Breezy Colony 2 CD, or just the one from cdimage.ubuntulinux.org? Because there's no seeders left for that one :-/
[05:21] <luminerd> I can't use Ubuntu if it's going to do this.
[05:22] <luminerd> what do I do?
[05:22] <luminerd> I don't understand, the mouse was working, with these exact settings, and now it doesn't
[05:22] <dabaR> plug it out and back in.
[05:22] <rommer> reka, by the look of it, it was trying to go to the site %u, and if you just type a word in the address bar then push enter it searches google (or whatever search thing you use) and university of minnesota must be the top hit for %u lol
[05:22] <dabaR> spanglesontoast: I dont understand your question again
[05:23] <luminerd> dabaR, I can NOT do that twice a day every day.
[05:23] <luminerd> I need a better fix than that
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> well i want to run a command
[05:23] <mgcross> Hi all
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> but when i close the terminal it ends
[05:23] <luminerd> otherwise I will throw away my ubuntu disk and never consider using it again
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> it want it to carry on
[05:23] <dabaR> luminerd: does that fix it?
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> *I
[05:23] <reka> rommer: oh, ok then.  at least it wasn't some weird site. :)
[05:23] <luminerd> dabaR, yes, but only temporarily
[05:23] <dabaR> luminerd: I have the same thing. Microsoft mousE?
[05:23] <rommer> yea
[05:23] <vader1102> lunimard: does it help if you boot with it in?
[05:24] <topyli>  luminerd: o
[05:24] <luminerd> dabaR, sysgration
[05:24] <luminerd> topyli, eh?
[05:24] <dabaR> spanglesontoast: if the command does not return to a prompt right after you run it, I dont think there is a way to do what you are asking, but, then again, I just may not know of it,.
[05:24] <luminerd> vader1102, that's the thing that fixes it
[05:24] <topyli> luminerd: slipped :) i was going to suggest another mouse :)
[05:24] <vader1102> hmmmmmm
[05:24] <spanglesontoast> using beep
[05:24] <luminerd> but it unfixed itself randomly
[05:24] <rommer> anyone know of a mac os x dock app that is better than starterbar?
[05:24] <luminerd> topyli, have tried
[05:24] <spanglesontoast> and i want it to stay on
[05:25] <topyli> hrm
[05:25] <dabaR> luminerd: dunno, I have the same problem with my Microsoft mouse when I boot windows, or sometimes when I boot ubuntu/debian. It is not a all the time thing, tho,
[05:26] <vader1102> lunimard: are you using a laptop by chance with a touchpad?
[05:26] <luminerd> vader1102, I'm using one, but that's not the machine in question
[05:26] <mgcross> I'm trying to run need for speed underground (I bought it) with cedega, when I try to change the keybindings using the game front end, I can't get it to accept input. The game just sits there. Any idea where the config file for the keybindings might be found?
[05:26] <dabaR> spanglesontoast: add a launcher for it?
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> i'm in a ssh
[05:26] <reka> rommer: probably not the best place to ask. :)
[05:26] <vader1102> hmmm ok, just going by process of elimination
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> anyways seeya soon
[05:26] <mgcross> HEEEEELP!!!
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> going back home
[05:26] <dabaR> cya
[05:26] <vader1102> linimard: have you tried a different mouse?
[05:26] <luminerd> dabaR, so what do you do to fix it?  just unplug and replug every time?
[05:27] <rommer> reka, nah didnt think so
[05:27] <Evil> hello
[05:27] <Evil> how can we reinstall french keyboard layout please
[05:27] <luminerd> dang it!
[05:27] <vader1102> luninard: I am using a logitch and have no probs
[05:27] <mgcross> please...
[05:27] <luminerd> unplugging did not work this time!!!!!
[05:27] <mgcross> help...
[05:27] <luminerd> alright that's it
[05:27] <luminerd> screw ubuntu
[05:27] <dazjorz> pcsx2 ??
[05:27] <luminerd> it won't work
[05:27] <dazjorz> any pcsx2 users here ?
[05:27] <luminerd> it's a broken OS.
[05:27] <luminerd> a useless OS.
[05:28] <jowi> Evil, you want the keyboard layout for a specific user ?
[05:28] <mgcross> I know it's not a serious problem ....
[05:28] <dabaR> luminerd: yes, sometimes even a couple of times before it works. But, as I said, it is not very often that it happens, not twice a day, or anything. Once in a few days, I leave it sitting, and I cxome back, and reboot into windows, and it will do it...not more than once or twice a week.
[05:28] <luminerd> I spent 15 hours trying to configure this thing
[05:28] <vader1102> linimard: try a diff mouse
[05:28] <djp> luminerd: for you maybe... but for many others a wonderful thing...
[05:28] <mgcross> but my wife keeps beating me
[05:28] <luminerd> dabaR, this keeps happening to me, very often
[05:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> ubuntu isn't an os, ubuntu is a linux distro ffs >_<
[05:28] <dabaR> luminerd: ok, but no need to diss ubuntu, it works here...
[05:28] <luminerd> dabaR, but I can't do this.  20 systems operated by complete n00bs cannot handle it.
[05:28] <dabaR> luminerd: I agree.
[05:29] <Stormx> Bubbling_Zombie: That makes it an OS, you l33t f00l
[05:29] <luminerd> dabaR, it's ubuntu's falt.  I know that for a fact, the mouse worked fine under plain debian
[05:29] <Evil> jowi i want back my french layout but i can't find it
[05:29] <jowi> Evil, I have a french install for ubuntu but uses a swedish keyboard in my session by adding "setxkbmap se" to ~/.xinitrc
[05:29] <jowi> Evil,
[05:29] <luminerd> unfortunately nothing else worked under debian
[05:29] <jowi> Evil, oh.
[05:29] <sproingie> hmm, tradeoffs tradeoffs
[05:29] <dabaR> haha.
[05:29] <dabaR> luminerd: good luck, stick around, someone may know a fix.
[05:29] <dabaR> Were all neqwbies here now, pretty much.
[05:29] <Stormx> What is the problem?
[05:29] <sproingie> luminerd: you rolling out ubuntu for a 20 person workgroup?
[05:29] <tombs> hi ppl
[05:29] <sproingie> luminerd: what hardware platform?
[05:29] <luminerd> sproingie, huh?
[05:29] <Stormx> Heya
[05:30] <luminerd> sproingie, uuh, emachine
[05:30] <mgcross> so noone cares that she's beating me???
[05:30] <Stormx> What's the problem? >_>
[05:30] <luminerd> sproingie, oh, amd
[05:30] <sproingie> luminerd: [08:28]  <luminerd> dabaR, but I can't do this. 20 systems operated by complete n00bs cannot handle i
[05:30] <luminerd> Stormx, mouse does not move in X.
[05:30] <jowi> Evil, you can set it in gnome-keyboard-properties
[05:30] <luminerd> sproingie, eh?
[05:30] <luminerd> sproingie, what about it? yes I said that...so?
[05:30] <reka> mgcross: most of us would love to be beaten by a woman. :P
[05:30] <Stormx> luminerd, hang on. Seveas told me how to reconfigure hardware yesterday.......
[05:30] <sproingie> luminerd: just curious about the platform that's broken for every user
[05:30] <sproingie> luminerd: but i already know to avoid emachines
[05:31] <Evil> already tried jowi
[05:31] <luminerd> sproingie, I'm lost
[05:31] <jowi> Evil, "Agencements" and press the "default" tickbox
[05:31] <mgcross> reka: no you wouldn't
[05:31] <luminerd> sproingie, it was cheapest, that's what we needed
[05:31] <dv__> hmm
[05:31] <sproingie> luminerd: you get what you pay for
[05:31] <dv__> motif stuff can look stylish
[05:31] <dv__> :)
[05:31] <Madeye> guys how to extract bz2 file from command line /
[05:31] <mgcross> reka: trust me she hits really hard
[05:31] <dabaR> mgcross: how would I know about that new game thing...if someone knows theyll help you. Let your question at least scroll ovff the screen before you ask it again. Dont say help, repeat, or rephrase your question.
[05:31] <luminerd> sproingie, false
[05:31] <djp> luminerd: do you have the same problem with all 20 machines and same branded mice?
[05:31] <luminerd> sproingie, it is debian that is not working on the machine
[05:31] <luminerd> the hardware is fine
[05:31] <jowi> Evil, you have the french keyboard available in gnome-keyboard-settings?
[05:31] <luminerd> djp, yes
[05:32] <sproingie> luminerd: a lot of things are going to have miscellaneous problems
[05:32] <reka> mgcross: have you done the prerequisite forum/google search?
[05:32] <mgcross> dabaR: you don't understand she's beating me
[05:32] <mwest> Madeye: tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz2 (assuming it's a tar.bz2 file)
[05:32] <jowi> Evil, "gnome-keyboard-properties" i mean
[05:32] <mgcross> reka: yes I have, nothing close
[05:32] <djp> luminerd: and obviously they are all brand new mice on each machine...
[05:33] <sproingie> luminerd: you're the one with the problem of the mouse being jerky when the machine's under load?
[05:33] <dabaR> mgcross: what? who is beating you? If you are talking about a person, the police would be a better place to ask help, than here.
[05:33] <luminerd> sproingie, don't do this alright?  I have what I have and nothing can be done about it...$8000 was already a lot for computers, and that was the cheapest it got for 20 of em
[05:33] <Stormx> luminerd: Bah, seveas told me how to reconfigure hardware, but I can't find the damn command. Have you checked the Wiki?
[05:33] <Evil> no jowi
[05:33] <luminerd> djp, yes, new, or maybe refurbished, not sure, I think new
[05:33] <jowi> Then click "Add" there
[05:33] <Evil> i don't have the french keyboard there
[05:33] <luminerd> sproingie, no, the mouse is not jerky, the mouse doesn't work
[05:33] <djp> luminerd: what was the brand again?
[05:33] <sproingie> luminerd: wow.  usb or ps2?
[05:33] <Evil> already tried but he don't want to do anything !!
[05:33] <luminerd> djp, of what?
[05:33] <luminerd> sproingie, ps2
[05:33] <Stormx> luminerd: I'm gonna look it up for ya. You tried a reinstall?
[05:33] <djp> luminerd: the mouse?
[05:33] <reka> dabaR: he meant beating score-wise (at least i think so)
[05:33] <luminerd> Stormx, yes, and on 2 different machines
[05:33] <sproingie> luminerd: does gpm even work?
[05:34] <dabaR> reka: oh no, I am going to lose a game:-/
[05:34] <luminerd> djp, it doesn't matter, no mouse works.  tried dell and sysgration...sysgration is the one all the systems have
[05:34] <jowi> Evil, what happens when you click "add"?
[05:34] <luminerd> but both did the same thing
[05:34] <Evil> i can't click on it
[05:34] <luminerd> sproingie, wouldn't know, never did anything with gpm
[05:34] <djp> luminerd: oh i see.
[05:34] <dabaR> :)
[05:34] <George_> hi
[05:34] <George_> i'm getting a vpd error
[05:34] <sproingie> luminerd: me neither, not in a while.  it is simpler than x tho, just trying to remove all variables
[05:34] <dabaR> almost food time:)
[05:34] <reka> mgcross: /j #cedega
[05:34] <George_> how must i fix
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, eh?
[05:35] <mgcross> reka: google gives me nothing, I know you would all love to be beaten by a women but she is very strong and she can't use all four fingers at once on the cursor keys
[05:35] <sproingie> luminerd: actually, try cat /dev/psaux at another console then move the mouse around
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, I'm not sure what gpm is, does it come default install
[05:35] <sproingie> luminerd: it should spew a bunch of crap onto your screen
[05:35] <jowi> Evil, then i think you could run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to set up the language if i am not mistaken (please someone correct me if i am wrong)
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, cat returns nothing
[05:35] <sproingie> luminerd: methinks it's the port that's broken
[05:35] <Stormx> luminerd, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, false
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, no hardware issues.
[05:35] <dabaR> George_: Did you want to tell us more information about your problem?
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, I would lay my life on that.
[05:35] <sproingie> luminerd: it's broken in software
[05:35] <luminerd> sproingie, oh...
[05:35] <luminerd> heh sorry, I misinterpretted
[05:36] <mgcross> reka: how the hell do I change to the cedega channel. I may not be a linux newbie but I am an IRC newbie...LOL
[05:36] <dabaR> luminerd: on all computers it does the same thing?
[05:36] <sproingie> luminerd: maybe it's using a weird interrupt.  i wouldn't be surprised if linux's ps2 driver has it hardwired
[05:36] <George_>         Msg: Vpd: Cannot read VPD keys
[05:36] <Stormx> hello..........
[05:36] <luminerd> dabaR, well, 2, so yes I'd assume all
[05:36] <reka> mgcross: what client are you using?
[05:36] <Stormx> luminerd: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <mgcross> reka: xchat
[05:36] <djp> luminerd: i don't know if this will help you, but take a look anyway... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=343737
[05:36] <reka> mgcross: click on the cedega button on the bottom :)
[05:36] <luminerd> Stormx, yes, several times, but I prefered to edit the xorg.conf file, which I also did
[05:37] <Stormx> luminerd: I have no idea then
[05:37] <Stormx> We need seveas, really ;-)
[05:37] <mgcross> reka: we have ubuntu servers and #ubuntu
[05:37] <dabaR> shine a seveas light into the night sky...
[05:37] <sproingie> luminerd: try looking in the bios, and see if there are any user-serviceable settings for the ps2 port, write down the irq info and all that if it's there
[05:37] <dabaR> mgcross: /join #cedega
[05:37] <mgcross> reka: and she's hitting me harder
[05:37] <Stormx> Else just scrap the PS2 Mice.
[05:38] <reka> mgcross: what dabaR said
[05:38] <sproingie> luminerd: and check it against a known good machine.  as i said, linux might have assumptions hardwired in and they might be different on yours
[05:38] <dabaR> mgcross: call the cops.
[05:38] <mgcross> reka: thanks
[05:38] <sproingie> luminerd: another thing to try is flipping the "plug and play OS" setting in the bios.  linux doesn't really use it, but sometimes it works better on and sometimes better off
[05:38] <Stormx> Has anyone had problems getting screen resolution above 1024x768 in a clean install or hoary?
[05:39] <reka> Stormx: lots of people
[05:39] <luminerd> Stormx, thanks anyway
[05:39] <reka> !fixres
[05:39] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:39] <luminerd> sproingie, bios no problems
[05:39] <jowi> Stormx, it all depends on your graphicscard and monitor settings. check the link ubotu showed
[05:39] <luminerd> sproingie, I have no good machine to check against
[05:39] <djp> luminerd: did you take a look at the link i gave you earlier?
[05:39] <luminerd> sproingie, they are all BIOS optimized defaults
[05:39] <Stormx> reka: Seen that page, but i'm not entirely sure what I should do >_>
[05:39] <hadi57> is it possible to use ubuntu as internet server?
[05:40] <Evil> it says i got a bug with xkb jowi
[05:40] <luminerd> djp, yes, read it, seems to be a different problem though :/
[05:40] <dabaR> hadi57: yes, off course.
[05:40] <Seveas> hadi57, of course :)
[05:40] <djp> luminerd: ok
[05:40] <sproingie> luminerd: "bios optimized" is an oxymoron :)
[05:40] <xmen90s> hello all, i am going on day 5 of having ubuntu instlaled and still not being able to connect to the internet .... will someone please help ....
[05:40] <luminerd> sproingie, in what way?
[05:40] <dabaR> hadi57: do you know how to use synaptic?
[05:40] <sproingie> luminerd: it is weird that it does work with other distributions.  it's gotta be some weird plug and play or acpi thing
[05:41] <hadi57> i have internet satelite modems 5 at the moment and using censornet and looking for replacement can u assist me?
[05:41] <reka> Stormx: start with this section: 'Run the Autodetect Script Again'
[05:41] <reka> Stormx: i assume you know about terminal?
[05:41] <luminerd> sproingie, last time I fixed it by simply unplugging the mouse, turning the comp off, unplugging the comp, replugging the mouse, replugging the comp, and booting up...then it worked
[05:41] <sproingie> luminerd: cheap bioses (which is pretty much all of 'em) often guess wrong if you do the slightest bit of installation.  and sometimes it just ships broken
[05:41] <jowi> Evil, I have no idea what that is. try just to type in a terminal: "setxkbmap fr" and see if that works for you.
[05:41] <luminerd> this time it did not work
[05:41] <Squall> ellow
[05:41] <Squall> how do i set date and time manualy?
[05:41] <Evil> i dont have it installed
[05:41] <hadi57> dada no i dont
[05:42] <jowi> Evil, so that is the problem.
[05:42] <sproingie> luminerd: well, that almost certainly points to the bios then
[05:42] <jowi> Evil, hang on
[05:42] <dazjorz> ermm
[05:42] <luminerd> sproingie, it is not the bios
[05:42] <reka> Squall: right-click on clock > adjust
[05:42] <dazjorz> gonna paste something on the pastebin...
[05:42] <luminerd> sproingie, the bios is the same now
[05:42] <luminerd> sproingie, as it was then
[05:42] <luminerd> so it can't be can it?
[05:42] <dabaR> hadi57: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto to learn that, it is a program that helps you install programs for your ubuntu.
[05:42] <sproingie> luminerd: the kernel desn't run any special code when the machine is unplugged
[05:42] <dazjorz> look here
[05:42] <luminerd> sproingie, ...eh??
[05:42] <dazjorz> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/975
[05:42] <sproingie> even beos only knows if the power switch is on or off ;)
[05:43] <dabaR> hadi57: apache is the web server most commonly used, there is also apache2.
[05:43] <hadi57> ill check it out
[05:43] <FourStarGeneral> If i have a file archive for apt, how do i generate the Release etc files
[05:43] <luminerd> sproingie, I'm not sure what you mean
[05:43] <Stormx> I'm guessing I need to restart X for the new screen res settings to take effect?
[05:43] <hadi57> apache is for web hosting
[05:43] <Squall> reka: i have only command line?
[05:43] <reka> Stormx: correct
[05:43] <Stormx> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ^_^
[05:43] <dazjorz> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/975
[05:43] <xmen90s> can no one help me connect to the internet?
[05:43] <dazjorz> look here http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/975
[05:43] <sproingie> luminerd: i'm just being facetious.  if fiddling with the hardware directly like power-cycling resolves the problem, then it sounds like hardware
[05:43] <hadi57> i've used squid in the past with redhad, but i am looking for complete solution includint client managment
[05:44] <dabaR> hadi57: yes, a web server.
[05:44] <Evil> ok jowi
[05:44] <reka> Squall: oh, no idea then, sorry
[05:44] <sproingie> luminerd: unless you're resuming from suspend or hibernate.  i used to have the mouse konk out on linux all the time when resuming from hibernate
[05:44] <djp> luminerd: do you have an live cd's kicking about? maybe try with one of them and check the mouse works ok then?
[05:44] <om_> can anyone explain how to add a WM compiled by source to a DM like KDM or GDM manually?
[05:44] <sproingie> luminerd: it just became something i got used to until i scraped linux off and put freebsd on the laptop
[05:44] <luminerd> sproingie, what is the fix?  That IS what happened....
[05:44] <jowi> Evil, sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr-base language-pack-fr
[05:44] <Squall> how do i set date and time manualy in the command line?
[05:44] <dazjorz> guys
[05:44] <dazjorz> comon
[05:44] <dazjorz> oops
[05:44] <Evil> ok
[05:45] <dabaR> hadi57: like a webmin? I dont know about that. I have apache, proftpd, and openssh-server installed.
[05:45] <luminerd> djp, no livecds...but the mouse worked, as I said, on debian
[05:45] <sproingie> luminerd: the fix is to install freebsd, because linux's suspend/resume stuff is so broken.  alternatively you can try compiling PS/2 mouse as a module, then rmmod and modprobe when resuming from suspend
[05:45] <sproingie> luminerd: don't leave out that detail next time :)
[05:45] <djp> luminerd: oh, ok. but i gather you had other issues with debian, right?
[05:45] <dabaR> dazjorz: I dont play games, and I dont know what you isnatlled or whatever. Make sure you check the repos before you isntall something from source.
[05:45] <dazjorz> dabaR: I'm running a playstation 2 emulator with WINE.
[05:46] <djp> oh, ok... the problem is from resume/suspend!
[05:46] <dazjorz> dabaR: I just got this error.
[05:46] <sproingie> luminerd: it could be worse, i had one machine where the keyboard and nic both didn't work after resuming
[05:46] <dabaR> I am sorry to har you are wasting your time on that;)
[05:46] <hadi57> i am doing isp work in a small scale, sharing the satelite modem with 50 to 100 client on each modem and looking for a solution, as i said at the moment i am using censornet but facing some problems
[05:46] <sproingie> luminerd: that one got freebsd too :)
[05:46] <dabaR> hadi57: consider paid help, I think.:)
[05:46] <luminerd> sproingie, well it can't be worse.
[05:46] <hadi57> i have webmin i used it
[05:47] <onur> Hello, I realized that my wireless connection occassionally is cut down without any reason. How can i correct this issue ?
[05:47] <hadi57> no problem the paid help
[05:47] <luminerd> sproingie, because now I have to spend $10,000 to pay for microsoft office for my 20 windows systems.
[05:47] <Squall> how do i set date and time manualy in the command line?
[05:47] <dabaR> an Internet server like dhpcd or something...
[05:47] <sproingie> luminerd: no you probably don't, there *are* workarounds
[05:47] <jowi> onur, try to change the channel in your router.
[05:47] <sproingie> luminerd: they'll cost you in time, but probably not as much as microsoft licenses
[05:47] <onur> jowi this issue only happens in ubuntu though
[05:47] <dabaR> dazjorz: well, try installing all it says is missing, that would be an obvious(sometimes) first step...
[05:47] <hess_> ello
[05:48] <hadi57> i found some billing packages in freshmeat.net
[05:48] <hess_> anyone has issues with eciadsl ??
[05:48] <luminerd> sproingie, if I can't fix this, I'll have to try another distro, and if I can't fix it there, it'll be Windows and I will need office.
[05:48] <dazjorz> dabaR: I installed all of libatk. Still there. So,...
[05:48] <jowi> onur, i have never tried wireless in linux so i wouldn't know (i have configured many accesspoints though)
[05:48] <onur> Squall, try :  man date
[05:48] <sproingie> luminerd: you could try fedora, which uses a heavily patched kernel that might have it fixed.  freebsd might run fine on 'em too, it has perfectly good suspend support
[05:48] <Deanodriver> hi
[05:48] <luminerd> sproingie, I hate fedora -_-
[05:48] <luminerd> lol
[05:48] <Jemt> My wireless (Cisco, Centrino) seems to be running just fine
[05:48] <onur> ok
[05:48] <bina> hmm, looks like someones been trying to break into my PC :S
[05:49] <Deanodriver> i've got a weird issue with this new hdd I've added
[05:49] <sproingie> luminerd: i bet right now you hate linux.  choose your battles.
[05:49] <Ozziej> hi
[05:49] <luminerd> sproingie, I don't hate linux in the least
[05:49] <onur> Jemt, mine too but ocassionally it is cut down with no reason
[05:49] <sproingie> luminerd: the suspend/resume bugs are something i've never seen linux adequately fix
[05:49] <luminerd> in fact if I had time, I'd do a slackware install on it
[05:49] <cute_bettong> is Breezy still busted?
[05:49] <Deanodriver> basically, I do a df -h /dev/hdd1, and it says:
[05:49] <Deanodriver> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:49] <Deanodriver> /dev/hdd1             147G  132G  7.4G  95% /files2
[05:49] <Jemt> onur: Oh, wired
[05:49] <Deanodriver> 132GB used and 7.4GB free? but there's 147GB total?
[05:49] <luminerd> sproingie, then linux is useless...which I refuse to believe
[05:49] <Deanodriver> what's the deal with that?
[05:50] <sproingie> luminerd: you can always run linux apps in /compat/linux in fbsd.  i believe it now even has debian as an option
[05:50] <Evil> well
[05:50] <rivai> tes
[05:50] <Evil> jowi
[05:50] <dabaR> Deanodriver: very badly composed question.
[05:50] <Deanodriver> sorry
[05:50] <dabaR> no need to be sorry.
[05:50] <onur> Hello, I realized that my wireless connection occassionally is cut down without any reason. How can i correct this issue ?
[05:50] <sproingie> luminerd: it's not so black and white.  it has nasty bugs on a particular class of hardware
[05:50] <jowi> Evil, did it do the trick?
[05:50] <Ozziej> is there an easy way to change ubuntu's language to english? i don't like the dutch translation
[05:50] <Evil> now my shift and altgr buttons doesn't want to work
[05:50] <sproingie> luminerd: makes it useless for some situations, but there's fixes if you spend a lot of time and money chasing them down
[05:50] <Deanodriver> but I'm just wondering why if it's used 132GB on a 147GB partition, there's not 15GB free?
[05:50] <dabaR> 147G  132G  7.4G is that what you are complaining about, it does not compute?
[05:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is Breezy still busted?
[05:50] <sproingie> anyway, i gotta get going
[05:51] <luminerd> sproingie, that's ridiculous
[05:51] <sproingie> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, it will be busted until release
[05:51] <luminerd> sproingie, ok, ttyl
[05:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[05:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bummer
[05:51] <bina> anyone know of a good tool that makes using snort  and viewing its outputs easier
[05:51] <Deanodriver> the fact that 7GB seems to have gone missing :)
[05:51] <Evil> i got a bug with kbd since  months :(
[05:51] <jowi> Evil, ok. then you go into gnome-keyboard-properties and set the keyboard type so it matches yours (usually 105 keys or something)
[05:51] <Deanodriver> formatted in ext3
[05:51] <dabaR> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[05:51] <onur> Is there anyone i this channel experienced with wireless issues of ubuntu ?
[05:51] <sproingie> ChurcH_of_FoamY: that's development for you.  even breezy debs don't track every package on breezy, just whatever they work on
[05:52] <sproingie> ChurcH_of_FoamY: actually i can't speak for breezy devs, but that does describe DD's
[05:52] <peterretief> hey all, how to get the dvd to show the full screen (not the stripe in the middle) using vlc media
[05:52] <Deanodriver> 19457 cylinders, the partition starts at 1, ends at 19457
[05:52] <sproingie> ok, gone now
[05:52] <dabaR> Deanodriver: so it gives you only that one partition?
[05:52] <Deanodriver> i only put the one partition on the drive :)
[05:52] <jowi> Evil, i need to be on my way. if you need help in french you can have a look in #ubuntu-fr channel
[05:52] <Deanodriver> (it's a files partition)
[05:53] <peterretief> gotta go
[05:53] <dabaR> did you do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd, Deanodriver
[05:53] <Deanodriver> yes
[05:53] <Ozziej> how can i change ubuntu's language?
[05:53] <dabaR> Deanodriver: and it tells only one partition?
[05:53] <Deanodriver> yes
[05:53] <onur> Second question: "" is a turkish latter which i use in my turkish keyboard. Everything is working verywell with my keyboard but only this latter is printed slightly wrong. the dot should be centered but it is on the right of I. What can i do about it ?
[05:53] <jowi> Ozziej, the whole system? sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:54] <jowi> onur, probably the font
[05:54] <dabaR> dbernar1@dabar:~$ df -h
[05:54] <dabaR> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:54] <dabaR> /dev/hdb1             9.2G  3.3G  5.5G  38% /
[05:54] <crashd> onur: make your own font.
[05:54] <dazjorz> is SEVEAS here ?
[05:54] <crashd> or learn to deal with it ;}
[05:54] <jowi> gotto go. bye all
[05:54] <onur> jowi, crashd how ?
[05:54] <crashd> lol
[05:54] <crashd> it was a joke :] 
[05:54] <dabaR> Deanodriver: seems like a common thing.
[05:54] <crashd> try changing to a different font with the same charset
[05:54] <Deanodriver> ok
[05:54] <crashd> i have 0 experience of internationalistaiton in linux
[05:54] <crashd> the only language i speak is english and drunk, sorry ;\
[05:54] <Deanodriver> so the space reporting is bogus?
[05:55] <Deanodriver> even though it works fine with the fat32 partition (on an identical drive)
[05:55] <dazjorz> test
[05:55] <dazjorz> ermm
[05:55] <dabaR> it is not exactly bogus...
[05:55] <dazjorz> I need help with WINE
[05:55] <dabaR> just misses on some occassions it seems.
[05:55] <dazjorz> someone here ?
[05:55] <Ozziej> jowi, wich localization should i use for normal english? en_IN ?
[05:56] <onur> crashd, this somewhat corrects the issue but that also means i would be unable to use some of the fonts.  I also know there are some Turkish fonts. How can i install a new font to my system. And also shouldn't ubuntu staff be informed about it because it is obviously a minor bug
[05:56] <Deanodriver> just tried to copy a 9.4GB directory to that drive, and it says there's not enough space
[05:56] <crashd> onur: i really dont know man, try posting the forums
[05:56] <flodine> will i be able to update to breezy when it comes out
[05:57] <onur> How can i be a jedi ?
[05:57] <dazjorz> onur: take a training with yoda
[05:57] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[05:57] <sig> kill yourself
[05:57] <sig> be one with the force
[05:57] <dabaR> flodine: yes. off course.
[05:57] <dazjorz> you can become a jedi by not becoming a sith... you can always do that later
[05:57] <onur> sig i suppose you're correct. But in a different sense
[05:57] <dazjorz> i mean, look at anakin
[05:57] <deathllama> i got a help request here.
[05:58] <Evil> do someone got this line  Option  "CoreKeyboard"
[05:58] <dazjorz> me too
[05:58] <onur> it is obviously easy to control your self if there is less self
[05:58] <onur> so killing the self may be the answer, anyway back to ubuntu
[05:58] <Deanodriver> so does anyone know why 7GB is missing? :)
[05:59] <Deanodriver> is it something to do with ext3? :)
[06:00] <onur> dazjorz, I suppose we all need help with WINe, don't we guys ?
[06:00] <dazjorz> onur: WINE is a program :\
[06:00] <bina> can anyone suggest an easy to use IDS?
[06:01] <Kyral> http://www.petitiononline.com/jtp7995/petition.html <-- Sign for Video Game Freedom!
[06:01] <onur> dazjorz, Wine Is Not an Emulator though
[06:01] <trog|odyt> Deanodriver if you type df -h does it say there is enough space available?
[06:01] <Deanodriver> it says there's 7.4GB free, but it says the partition is 147GB, with 132GB used
[06:02] <Deanodriver> shouldn't there be 15GB free?
[06:02] <dabaR> only mathmatically.
[06:02] <dazjorz> onur: It needs some DLLs. Should I just download them from some odd page ?
[06:03] <Deanodriver> I have another identical drive, which is formatted in fat32, but works out as 150GB, and 132GB is used, with 18GB free, like normal :)
[06:03] <trog|odyt> hmm yeah I guess..
[06:03] <Deanodriver> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[06:03] <Deanodriver> /dev/hdd1             147G  132G  7.4G  95% /files2
[06:03] <Deanodriver> the drive in question
[06:03] <Deanodriver> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[06:03] <Deanodriver> /dev/hdb1             150G  132G   18G  89% /files
[06:03] <Deanodriver> the other one
[06:04] <Deanodriver> both the same model drives :)
[06:04] <trog|odyt> odd.. no idea, sorry
[06:04] <Deanodriver> hmm
[06:04] <Seveas> Deanodriver, defrag the bastard :)
[06:04] <Evil> hey
[06:04] <Deanodriver> how do i do that? :)
[06:04] <Deanodriver> (i just formatted it tonight) :P
[06:04] <Seveas> you need a windows system for that
[06:05] <Evil> how can i get setxkbmap back on my sysyem
[06:05] <Deanodriver> what, the fat32 partition?
[06:05] <Deanodriver> the fat32 is the 150 one
[06:05] <kestas> if I get a PCMCIA wireless card, and a PCI card for my gateway computer, do I not need to buy a wireless router?
[06:05] <Deanodriver> the 147 one (the one with the weird issue) is ext3
[06:05] <Apex> yup, you need a router, or an access point if you already have a wired router
[06:05] <trog|odyt> maybe you have bad sectors on the ext3 one
[06:06] <kestas> ah k :(
[06:06] <Evil> please help me
[06:06] <Deanodriver> any way to find out?
[06:06] <wilhelm> hi
[06:06] <Deanodriver> since I only bought it today
[06:06] <MartenH> kestas, well not if you set it up correctly
[06:06] <Deanodriver> well
[06:06] <Deanodriver> 12 hours ago
[06:06] <trog|odyt> do you have enough room to swap the files. and format?
[06:06] <trog|odyt> make the fat32 one ext3, and vice versa
[06:06] <Apex> At least routers are cheap nowadays
[06:06] <wilhelm> i want to install dc++ on my ubuntu system; how can i do that?.
[06:06] <Deanodriver> the files on the fat32 one are the same as the ext3 one :P
[06:06] <onur> dazjorz, yes you might, but wine is very trouble some
[06:06] <kestas> well theyre over 70AUD here
[06:06] <MartenH> kestas, you can make it work without a router
[06:06] <Deanodriver> they were originally on the fat32 one
[06:06] <kestas> which is a bit more than I would like
[06:07] <trog|odyt> yeah, but your first trouble shooting step is to replicate it on the other drive
[06:07] <kestas> MartenH, well I want it to have range through the whole house, and be able to access all comptuers in the network
[06:07] <onur> dazjorz, they claim that it is alpha. And I dont think they care about it because with new Windows (at the end of 2006) Win32 will be dead and Wine will be dead also
[06:07] <PieD> hi
[06:07] <Deanodriver> replicate what? so i should format the fat32 drive to ext3?
[06:07] <wilhelm> i want to install dc++ on my ubuntu system; how can i do that?
[06:07] <MartenH> kestas, still plausible but you might have trouble with the range
[06:07] <trog|odyt> take the "bad" drive and format it to fat32, then move allthe data back onto it and see what the df-h says about it
[06:07] <Ozziej> i just did dpkg-reconfigure locales, but my Gnome stays in dutch while i set english to be default, do i have to change gnome to?
[06:07] <onur> so people of linux start using Mono instead of wine
[06:07] <Deanodriver> ok then
[06:08] <dazjorz> k
[06:08] <Pega> I know this isn't really about ubuntu but... Can you change download manager to show things as KBs, instead of Bs?
[06:08] <PieD> "Please don't use Breezy yet"
[06:08] <dazjorz> how do i emulate win32 programs then
[06:08] <PieD> when will it change ?
[06:08] <kestas> can anyone recommend a good cheap wireless router?
[06:08] <PieD> X.org 7.0 rc0 is released
[06:08] <wilhelm> who help me with installing ubuntu?
[06:08] <kestas> 801.22b is fine,I dont need g
[06:08] <Deanodriver> we'll see what happens then :)
[06:08] <MartenH> D-link and netgear are fairly good priced
[06:08] <wilhelm> who help me with installing dc++ in ubuntu?
[06:08] <PieD> I believed it'd help stabilising breezy
[06:09] <trog|odyt> kestas I'm happy with my dlink 614+
[06:09] <kestas> MartenH, any specific models you can recommend?
[06:09] <kestas> trog|odyt, hmm k thanks
[06:09] <Deanodriver> how do i format a disk in linux? :)
[06:09] <Pega> wilhelm, I think that dc++ is only for windows? I heard once that there was DCGUI or something for linux. Not 100% sure tho.
[06:09] <onur> dazjorz, you can't. Remember wine is not an emulator. It just wraps some api and tries to work the program. Some programs you can never work, some work excellent. You google it and learn if any other people managed to run that program or not. Even for any silly program you will find some one tried it with wine
[06:09] <MartenH> kestas, not used them but I looked into it alot when I got mine, was looking at G though.  D-link 624 and 624+ where nice for that
[06:10] <Ozziej> i just did dpkg-reconfigure locales, but my Gnome stays in dutch while i set english to be default, do i have to change gnome to?
[06:10] <MartenH> kestas, however if you are fine with just 11b you could probably get the stuff you need for a very decent price
[06:10] <kestas> trog|odyt, looks like a good one but too expensive
[06:10] <MartenH> kestas, both in store and second-hand
[06:10] <kestas> MartenH, 70USD is the lower limit
[06:10] <trog|odyt> ebay
[06:10] <kestas> Im not gonna make the ebay mistake again
[06:10] <Deanodriver> so how would i reformat this disk, then? :)
[06:10] <onur> dazjorz, this is why i told everyone has problems with wine. I desperatly need Autocad 2004 in linux but i can't and no one has able to run it with Wine for example.
[06:11] <dazjorz> :(
[06:11] <Ozziej> u cant run autocad with crossover office?
[06:11] <dazjorz> onur: So how do I emulate it then !!!
[06:11] <onur> dazjorz, you can't
[06:11] <MartenH> kestas, I got a PCI+PCMCIA+Router for 11g for 120USD, and trhat was Linksys! so something matching but in 11b and netgear or D-link shouldn't cost you more that $70 IMHO
[06:12] <MartenH> kestas, and a good idea is to try ebay and other places liket hat if you want to save yet another few cents
[06:12] <onur> I never tried crossover office since it is commercial. But i know that you can't run Autocad 2004 with Wine very certainly
[06:12] <wilhelm> http://dcgui.berlios.de/download.php  <----- help me with that, what is the right choice?
[06:13] <kestas> MartenH, well the cheapest of the cheap Ive managed to whittle it down to comparing lots of prices is 95AUD, which is something like 60USD, for Router+PCMCIA, not including shipping
[06:13] <kestas> and hopefully including tax
[06:13] <kestas> its not bad I guess
[06:13] <onur> dazjorz, have you ever written a program with Win32 before? Believe me Win32 is more dirty than your toilet, this is why MS is throwing it away. So emulating it is worthless
[06:13] <wilhelm> http://dcgui.berlios.de/download.php  <----- help me with that, what is the right choice? anybody help me with that?
[06:14] <MartenH> fairly decent I'd say. I picked my stuff in store to save shipping and found some nice mailin rebates to go with it. It pays of to spend that little extra time looking
[06:15] <MartenH> kestas, I hope you find something, it's sooo nice to not worry about beeing hooked up everywhere
[06:15] <onur> who are the ops of this channel
[06:15] <Ozziej> no one know how i can completely change ubuntu's language? i set dpkg-reconfigure locales to en_IN but almost everything in Gnome is still in dutch
[06:15] <onur> Ozziej, changing the langage you mean changing the menus to your language ?
[06:15] <dv__> onur, true.
[06:15] <dv__> I am writing a cross-platform UI
[06:15] <Ozziej> onur yeas
[06:16] <Ozziej> yes
[06:16] <dv__> with a win32 backend, among others.
[06:16] <dv__> using plain win32api.
[06:16] <teferi> ugh. win32 api.
[06:16] <dv__> it is...... ugly
[06:16] <teferi> it's dead. let it lie.
[06:16] <dv__> but sometimes I find gtk+ even uglier
[06:16] <Funzo> can anybody tell me where to find a amd64 binary version of wine?
[06:16] <teferi> gtk+ api isn't ugly if you're writing in a language that isn't C :P
[06:16] <dv__> its far from dead
[06:16] <dv__> :)
[06:16] <onur> Ozziej,  can you find your language in the login iscreen
[06:17] <reka> wilhelm: don't.sudo apt-get install dcgui
[06:17] <teferi> dv__: well, it SHOULD be
[06:17] <sun_> has anyone installed nvidia-glx package?
[06:17] <dv__> and which replacement?
[06:17] <mjr> Funzo, you don't
[06:17] <ep> Can someone give me a quick example of how to use grep to searh  *.cpp files for a given string and also search the subdirectories. Everything i try fails.
[06:17] <teferi> yeah, swf or avalon
[06:17] <onur> I personally use Java
[06:17] <Funzo> mjr??
[06:17] <teferi> i'm kinda annoyed that swf is being killed in favor of avalon already, it's honestly not a bad api at all
[06:17] <dv__> .net that is?
[06:17] <Ozziej> onur, omg, that i didnt thought of that... ill try now :)
[06:17] <onur> Swing is good and SWT is another taste that you can compile it to completely native
[06:17] <teferi> such is progress. oh well.
[06:17] <dv__> anyway, doing my tk and is progressing well
[06:18] <sun_> ep, find . -name '*.cpp' -print | xargs grep STRING
[06:18] <mjr> Funzo, wine doesn't emulate the underlying hardware; it needs to run as a 32-bit binary to provide a 32-bit environment for the windows programs
[06:18] <Funzo> ok
[06:18] <kestas> are routers OS dependant?
[06:18] <kestas> theyre not right?
[06:18] <kestas> hardware routers that is
[06:18] <Funzo> so is there a 64bit version in development?
[06:18] <kestas> wireless hardware routers
[06:18] <nightswim> as long as your router doesnt run windows with ICS
[06:19] <gorth> Do i have to give the initrd option when compiling a vanilla kernel?
[06:19] <Funzo> as inm one to work with 64bit apps
[06:19] <sun_> ep, did it work?
[06:19] <dv__> gorth, no
[06:19] <mjr> Funzo, things are being done to support 64-bit windows binaries on a 64-bit wine, but the official stance seems to be that people should just run a 32-bit wine to run 32-bit windows apps
[06:19] <ep> let me try, seems complicated :)
[06:19] <dv__> it depends on how you use the kernel
[06:19] <dv__> with a bzImage: no
[06:19] <gorth> dv__, ahh ok, the problem is that my system panic on startup..
[06:19] <dv__> with a bzImage & grub, that is.
[06:19] <onur> Funzo, as i told earlier with one year, Wine will be dead as Win32 so dont bother
[06:20] <dv__> cant say how it is with lilo thoigh
[06:20] <gorth> dv__, if i don't specify anything, will make-kpkg build a bzImage?
[06:20] <dv__> make-kpkg?
[06:20] <dv__> never used that
[06:20] <mjr> onur, you're into overstatements, much?
[06:20] <ep> but it works!  Guess I need to make script or something to simplify the process.
[06:20] <dv__> onur, wrong.
[06:20] <dv__> there are bazillion games based on the current architecture.
[06:20] <dv__> and there will be more.
[06:20] <sun_> ep, simplified: find YOUR_SOURCE_DIRECTORY -name '*.cpp' | xargs grep YOUR_REGEXP
[06:20] <gorth> dv__, ahh ok..
[06:21] <lenoxmo> ick fiona
[06:21] <dv__> since people dont throw away their installation that quickly
[06:21] <onur> but Win32 will be like 16 bit for new windows
[06:21] <equex> win32 is only dead in the eyes if the marketers
[06:21] <dv__> besides, win32 will be emulated
[06:21] <Saba_Z> Hi
[06:21] <onur> so i don't think begining from the end of next year no one should use Win32
[06:21] <sun_> hi
[06:21] <dv__> gorth, i always simply do "make" and "make modules_install"
[06:21] <sun_> has anyone installed nvidia-glx package?
[06:21] <mjr> onur, what you think doesn't make it so
[06:21] <dv__> then again, I use a 2.6 kernel
[06:21] <ep> sun_,  thanks, that's helpful
[06:21] <Deanodriver> the thing is, most new machines still use win32
[06:21] <gorth> dv__, so do I ;)
[06:22] <Saba_Z> Is there any way to make my intel I855M work with 3d support?
[06:22] <gorth> dv__, i just weird im the only one with the problem..
[06:22] <Funzo> onur: Why do you say that?
[06:22] <InquiringMind> is there a graphical backup utility out there for linux?
[06:22] <onur> mjr, of course but it is a simple cause and effect thing.
[06:22] <sun_> ep, you can also try "grep --color" shows the matching strings in color, very handy
[06:22] <mjr> besides, wine will undoubtedly be extended to win64
[06:22] <b0xen> Hey I'm a bit confused. I just installed ubuntu and at no time was I prompted to set a root password.
[06:22] <dv__> but I do think that building everything upon .net is a good idea
[06:22] <reka> onur: you do know that most businesses still run win2000? (iirc)
[06:22] <mjr> (the preliminaries are being done already)
[06:22] <teferi> b0xen: this is because you use sudo instead
[06:23] <b0xen> teferi: how do I restrict who can use sudo and who can't?
[06:23] <onur> reka,  do you now they won't be able to install new Internet Explorer 7 and ms cut support to win2000
[06:23] <ep> cool
[06:23] <teferi> b0xen: man sudoers
[06:23] <reka> !root
[06:23] <ubotu> I guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:23] <b0xen> k thx
[06:23] <Saba_Z> Is there any way to make my intel I855M work with 3d support?
[06:23] <dv__> my mighty secret plan: 1) build my TK      2) create .net bindings     3) ????     4) profit!!!!
[06:23] <Ozziej> great, it worked.... if i only knew it was so simple :)
[06:24] <onur> at the end of next year new windows Longhorn will emerge. Longhorn will not support Win32 in core but it will emulate, just like current 16-bit mode
[06:24] <mjr> Saba_Z, see /var/log/Xorg.0.log for why it isn't using 3d acceleration; I seem to recall that you might have to set it to use 16-bit colors to enable it
[06:24] <onur> Or i should say Windows Vista. And in Windows Vista the core kernel will based on .NET so programs will be written on .NET
[06:25] <teferi> onur: except it won't...
[06:25] <teferi> onur: vista is NT5.5 or so
[06:25] <onur> As a linux you user you will go for Mono instead of Wine obviously so there won't be any need for Wine
[06:25] <dv__> Mono rocks
[06:25] <dv__> technically
[06:26] <dv__> I'm still confused by the ECMA license
[06:26] <onur> And altough I am a Java fan, Mono will rock out of every other for some time in not too distant future
[06:26] <dv__> onur, you know something else about the license of mono?
[06:26] <dv__> you know, the insecurities because on the patents
[06:27] <onur> I should say Mono / . NET
[06:27] <onur> dv__ what is the worst thing could happen on it
[06:27] <dv__> two scenarios:
[06:27] <spanglesontoast> what package do I need for playing .avi files?
[06:27] <dv__> a) MS invokes their patent claims
[06:27] <dv__> which should be prevented by ECMA
[06:28] <mjr> potential patent problems apply for any nontrivial development libraries
[06:28] <teferi> onur: vista is, incidentially, not emulating win32, it *is* win32. it's still nt. it supports avalon, but most of the OS sure as hell isn't written for .NET
[06:28] <dv__> but b) MS radically changes the .net libraries and specs in v2.0/3.0/ .....
[06:28] <onur> spanglesontoast, find the unoffical starters guide for ubuntu, everything you need written
[06:28] <dv__> and do NOT release it under RAND conditions
[06:28] <reka> spanglesontoast: w32codecs
[06:28] <onur> dv__, b-) always happens that is why i hate MS
[06:28] <spanglesontoast> it doesn't play .avi
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> in totem
[06:29] <InquiringMind> is there a backup utility for linux?
[06:29] <deFrysk> get totem-xine
[06:29] <dv__> b) is one major reason why many people abstain from mono
[06:29] <dv__> the other is a)
[06:29] <dv__> although a) seems to be safe, at least thats what the mono devs say
[06:30] <onur> what you claim is can not be denied but you will now Mono will rule in the new .NET era cause theres no othe choice
[06:30] <dazjorz> Back. I downloaded the DLL's that WINE needed, gonna check if it works now.
[06:30] <onur> sorry for my bad grammer
[06:30] <dv__> technically I think virtual environments like .net are necessary
[06:30] <dv__> and a step in the right direction
[06:30] <dazjorz> Jesus... 3 kbps
[06:30] <dv__> of course not for *everything*
[06:31] <onur> may be but I'll tell you smt
[06:31] <onur> At first we learnt win32 then came the MFC and win32 is thrown
[06:31] <reka> InquiringMind: more than one, iirc
[06:31] <dv__> yeah, then came winforsm
[06:31] <dv__> winforms
[06:31] <dv__> and this is soon going to be obsolete
[06:31] <dv__> once avalon arrives
[06:31] <onur> we leanred MFC, then came the VB and neighbours son became a better programmer then a pro programmer
[06:32] <teferi> shame. swf is nice.
[06:32] <teferi> honestly.
[06:32] <mjr> onur, MFC was on top of Win32, so nothing was thrown
[06:32] <dv__> onur, no he wasnt
[06:32] <onur> VB became the most popular language in the world (and sh.ttest) then came .NET and VB is thrown
[06:32] <dv__> the pro can pick up VB and easily outperform the son
[06:33] <Deanodriver> pfft
[06:33] <onur> now we learned .NET 1.2 and .NET 2.0 come and what we see. "Microsoft presents the new datagridview class", datagrid is thrown
[06:33] <Deanodriver> i learnt VB in high school, didn't use it since
[06:33] <dv__> onur, thats windows.forms, isnt it?
[06:33] <onur> that is .NET
[06:34] <dv__> no
[06:34] <dv__> the datagridview class
[06:34] <onur> yes
[06:34] <dv__> is part of windows forms
[06:34] <onur> yes
[06:34] <dv__> not the .net core itself
[06:34] <dv__> so no problem.
[06:34] <onur> well what is .NET
[06:34] <dv__> windows.forms is a propietary MS lib anyway
[06:34] <dv__> which mono  is *not*
[06:34] <onur> if you buy the .NET library book published by .NET then you will see those namespaces and related classes
[06:35] <dv__> i dont mind if winforms changes a lot
[06:35] <dv__> as long as the core CLR spec changes are released under ECMA licenses
[06:35] <onur> they are implementing Windows.Forms to .NET
[06:35] <Spec> I am not a core CLR.
[06:35] <onur> and ASP.NET is already implemented to mono
[06:35] <dv__> still, windows forms is a *library* built with *.net*
[06:36] <dv__> you can use .net without it
[06:36] <kafeine> second that.
[06:36] <dv__> its not part of the clr spec
[06:36] <onur> define .NET that you use in the context
[06:36] <dv__> the CLR + the core libraries
[06:36] <Saba_Z> why doesnt smbfs s  in fstab doesnt work,they dont get mounted?
[06:36] <dv__> all stuff which is covered by ECMA
[06:36] <dv__> and winforms is NOT a part of it
[06:37] <dv__> winforms is not ecma-licensed - this is crucial
[06:37] <kemik> Saba_Z:  you've done something wrong then
[06:37] <dvhart> I am having trouble getting ubuntu to automount a PCMCIA CF card.  The ide.opts file says it should receive 4 arguments in plugged in, but it only receives 3 (no partition) and instead of 3 on eject, it only receives 2.  I have mounted it manually and it works fine.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[06:37] <Saba_Z> should i paste the line?
[06:37] <kemik> Saba_Z:  sure on pastebin
[06:37] <dv__> now, the main problem is that a winforms competitor is missing
[06:37] <dv__> gtk# works with mono only
[06:37] <onur> anyway, i am not trying to argue with you. You might be right, and say you are right. It is why i hate MS i was trying to tell
[06:37] <dv__> and gtk in windows is horrible
[06:38] <onur> Java has never such ocurrences
[06:38] <dv__> onur, yeah, got it
[06:38] <dv__> I'm suspicious too
[06:38] <kemik> dv__:  have you used Glade and libglademm by any chance ?
[06:38] <daxuza> hello tous
[06:38] <dv__> thats why I never touched mono before
[06:38] <dv__> I did.
[06:38] <onur> it deprecates some stuff but, never throws rather than it matures
[06:38] <dv__> I prefer Qt.
[06:38] <onur> Qt does work with gnome ?
[06:38] <jacks> ime trieing to switch to linux but haveing big probs with the installing
[06:38] <kemik> Pega:  pr0fessional film is all you need ;)
[06:38] <dv__> unless I work in windows
[06:38] <dv__> onur, of course
[06:39] <jacks> of programs
[06:39] <dv__> Qt stuff works in gnome
[06:39] <Pega> kemik, yup. ;D
[06:39] <Heijmen> jacks: which programs?
[06:39] <onur> but need the libraries
[06:39] <onur> to be run
[06:39] <jacks> enny programs
[06:39] <dv__> however, Qt has one serious problem: it is very very hard to create a .net binding
[06:39] <dv__> onur, yeah. just like I need gnome libs to run gnome stuff in KDE
[06:39] <kemik> dv__:  how do i use QT in gnome ?
[06:40] <jacks> i ben on windows frum start now on linux
[06:40] <kemik> which libs do i need apt-ing ?
[06:40] <onur> but we are in the channel Ubuntu not Kubuntu :)
[06:40] <Heijmen> jacks: use synaptic, system->administration->synaptic package manager
[06:40] <dv__> kemik, I didnt mean to use Qt instead of GTK for gnome
[06:40] <Heijmen> !synaptic
[06:40] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:40] <dv__> i meant Qt *Programs* running in gnome
[06:40] <kemik> aha
[06:40] <dv__> my IDE is qt-based
[06:40] <dv__> and I use it in gnome often
[06:40] <jacks> it all new to me mever had linux before so going throw big lurning cuve
[06:41] <onur> dv__, do they run in a fresh installed ubuntu ?
[06:41] <gregg_> gtk also so a bug problem: performance
[06:41] <dv__> I dont know.
[06:41] <dv__> dont have ubuntu yet.
[06:41] <gregg_> gtk also has a big problem: performance
[06:41] <jacks> ya i did fresh full install
[06:41] <onur> dv__, and why are you in this channel :) ?
[06:41] <dv__> I need to leech the iso tomorrow
[06:41] <rapha> ARGH
[06:41] <dv__> onur, because I asked things about ubuntu
[06:41] <rapha> It is impossible to download the Breezy CD through BitTorrent
[06:41] <dv__> that helped me deciding whether to take ubuntu or not
[06:42] <dv__> I'm going to
[06:42] <dv__> but not without an ISO :)
[06:42] <onur> dv__, don't be offended, I am just teasing
[06:42] <dv__> gregg, true.
[06:42] <lydon> can anyone tell me that website where you can paste code and then give away the URL for people to edit it?
[06:42] <dv__> *especially* in windows. ever seen xchat or gimp for windows?
[06:42] <gregg_> yeah
[06:42] <dv__> lydon, rafb.net/paste
[06:42] <Heijmen> jacks: also check http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:42] <gregg_> pastebin.com
[06:42] <kemik> lydon:  topic
[06:42] <dv__> thats why I use win32api GUI widgets in the win32 backend
[06:43] <dv__> gtk draws all stuff in windows itself, which is a bad idea.
[06:43] <onur> dv__, may i ask did you consider java as an option ?
[06:43] <Pega> Tho still having some problems with this stuff. Xine seems to halt always when I try to listen to mp3s with it, totem the movie player seems to have much difficulties in opening any of my pr0fessional movies, audacity can't do anything with audio (rofl) and xmms... it seems to halt every time I press play. :S
[06:43] <dv__> onur, in which context?
[06:43] <dv__> java/.net or java/my TK?
[06:43] <onur> dv__, for your cross platform GUI ?
[06:43] <dv__> no
[06:43] <dv__> because its totally in C/C++
[06:43] <kemik> java is, unfortunately, the slow
[06:43] <gregg_> swing has gotten pretty good
[06:43] <onur> kemik, no it is not
[06:44] <gregg_> kemik: well, not really
[06:44] <kemik> really? tell that to JFTP compared to GFTP
[06:44] <Pega> quicktime doesn't even start up and I don't know how to uninstall it. Add or remove aplications -thingy doesn't work...
[06:44] <lydon> kemik: sorry, but this is where I first found it... thanks
[06:44] <kemik> or any other graphical java-application
[06:44] <dv__> onur, but as I said, I'm considering a .net binding
[06:44] <dv__> since I am *not* happy with gtk# as the only cross-platform option
[06:44] <dv__> and Qt# is going to be a lot of work until its ready
[06:45] <onur> dv__, you know better for your project but since this is smt Crossplatform, Java might have eased your pain
[06:45] <Quest-Master> dv__: wx-sharp?
[06:45] <dv__> wxsharp exists?
[06:45] <Quest-Master> Yes, Google for it
[06:45] <gregg_> while gtk is pain on windows, wx is a pain on unix...
[06:45] <dv__> oh
[06:45] <dv__> now here is something I missed
[06:45] <dv__> :)
[06:45] <dv__> onur, yeah.
[06:45] <gregg_> kemik: jedit is quite responsive
[06:45] <dv__> but its no fun to do huge bindings just for one app
[06:46] <dv__> especially templates
[06:46] <dv__> try to bind templates to java code with the JNI
[06:46] <dv__> :)
[06:46] <karlwrk> there's wx-mono, which is more useful than wxsharp would be
[06:46] <kemik> gregg_:  thats a texteditor.. try a huge program with a gui
[06:46] <kemik> gregg_:  and startuptimes in java is a pain aswell ;)
[06:46] <dv__> wxmono is useful in visual studio.net as well?
[06:46] <gregg_> kemik: I consider jedit huge, especially with a couple of plugins
[06:47] <kemik> gregg_:  although, java is great - crossplatfrom and easy to code
[06:47] <gregg_> kemik: about 5 seconds
[06:47] <karlwrk> dv: not sure, it was very very rough around the edges last I played with it,
[06:47] <gregg_> and this is a friggin slow box here :)
[06:47] <karlwrk> but you did get a single binary that you could run in both places
[06:47] <onur> consider eclipse, conside Jbuilder and similar progs they are not slow (not very fast in GUIwise neither)
[06:48] <kemik> onur:  i dont consider eclipse very fast no.. (and i've used it alot)
[06:48] <karlwrk> toolkit choices for cross platform work still suck in my opinion
[06:48] <teferi> it's rather pleasant to use if you have a grunty enough machine, though
[06:48] <onur> and for the console based, Java is close to C++ performance
[06:48] <teferi> (eclipse)
[06:48] <teferi> it's a great IDE
[06:48] <kemik> teferi:  indeed it is
[06:48] <LOQUiLLO_> hello friends, I need a litle help
[06:48] <dv__> karlwrk, maybe my tk doesnt :)
[06:48] <kemik> only used eclipse for java development tho...
[06:48] <dv__> at least I hope that
[06:48] <teferi> me too
[06:48] <teferi> it's really nice for that
[06:48] <jacks> ennyone got a sit i can go to fore walkthrow on doing installs of programs i never had linux before
[06:49] <teferi> the whole compile code as you write it thing is a blessing
[06:49] <karlwrk> my tk being "my tk" (tm) or your tk? or just tk?
[06:49] <kemik> gonna try configuring the CDT and dev. some c/c++ init
[06:49] <jacks> and wont to set it up as a server
[06:49] <dv__> btw, how is monodevelop
[06:49] <karlwrk> do you mean anything other than standard vanilla tk?
[06:49] <dv__> karlwrk, the second
[06:49] <LOQUiLLO_> I wanna install Opera, but I have this error: Reading package lists... Done
[06:49] <LOQUiLLO_> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:49] <LOQUiLLO_> E: Couldn't find package opera-static_8.02-20050727.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[06:49] <dv__> my gui lib
[06:49] <dv__> or whatever
[06:49] <karlwrk> yatk ;)
[06:49] <dv__> exactly
[06:49] <onur> anyway I am out bye
[06:49] <dv__> I wanted to use Qt4
[06:50] <dv__> but its a mess in windows
[06:50] <gregg_> LOQUiLLO_: you'll want to easy dpkg -i instead of apt-get
[06:50] <karlwrk> may I ask what your design goals are?
[06:50] <gregg_> s/easy/use/ (wtf)
[06:50] <dv__> the opensource edition has to be heavily patched in visual studio
[06:50] <dv__> -in +for
[06:50] <LOQUiLLO_> oh! thanks
[06:50] <dv__> and still doesnt work reliably
[06:50] <dv__> karlwrk, easy API, native widget use (if possible), small size
[06:50] <hans_> is there a program like daemon tools for ubuntu?
[06:51] <dv__> it doesnt try to have a wxWidgets-like featureset
[06:51] <karlwrk> what's the difference between you and wx then?
[06:51] <karlwrk> ahh.
[06:51] <dv__> which is, well, quite insane :)
[06:51] <karlwrk> yeah, wx could really stand do drop a lot of cruft
[06:51] <dv__> right now the code fits 3 times in a floppy idsk
[06:51] <karlwrk> I like the idea of wx,
[06:51] <dv__> disk
[06:51] <dv__> and already has event handling and about 20 widgets
[06:51] <karlwrk> but there are things that just don't need to be there.
[06:51] <dv__> and layout mechanisms etc.
[06:51] <jacks> brb
[06:52] <dArtagnan> Any idea with which command/hotkey I can display my menubar in xchat again, the menubar is gone
[06:52] <Nariman> hello
[06:52] <dv__> karlwrk, if you are a gtk crack, then feel invited to do a gtk backend :D
[06:52] <Nariman> i need some help installing xmms
[06:52] <dv__> gtk is simply too cryptic for me.
[06:52] <Deanodriver> bed time
[06:52] <Deanodriver> night
[06:52] <dv__> I can deal with win32 pretty well, but *not* with gtk+
[06:53] <gregg_> dv__: cryptic?
[06:53] <dv__> yeah
[06:53] <gregg_> could you explain that a little bit more?
[06:54] <dv__> well, the way of handling the widgets it totally unfamiliar
[06:54] <karlwrk> gtk is a pig
[06:54] <karlwrk> I hate how quirky my wxapps behave on gtk
[06:54] <gregg_> the gtk port of wx is teh crap
[06:54] <karlwrk> gtk file dialogs at least
[06:54] <Nariman> hello? cane some one help me?
[06:54] <dv__> thats why I started a qt backend
[06:54] <karlwrk> no, we're too busy off topic :)
[06:54] <dv__> since I am familiar with qt
[06:55] <karlwrk> yeah, but qt apps on gnome look ugly as sin as well :(
[06:55] <dv__> yeah.
[06:55] <karlwrk> and qt has such an unfriendly licensing scheme
[06:55] <dv__> but its not as if I had a lot of options..
[06:55] <karlwrk> lose lose lose situation :(
[06:55] <Kyral> Nariman, sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:55] <gregg_> and there's no decent GUI designer for wx
[06:55] <Nariman> thanx
[06:55] <karlwrk> much easier to just target one platform, unfortunately :(
[06:55] <dv__> yes, thats why I actually wanted to do a gtk backend
[06:55] <jasoncohen> Kyral, why not beep-media-player?
[06:55] <dv__> oh, the cross-platform issue isnt a problem
[06:55] <Kyral> because he asked for XMMS and I was about to suggest Beep
[06:55] <dv__> this works well
[06:55] <LOQUiLLO_> gregg_: thanks
[06:55] <karlwrk> (beep won't let you doublesize, and is just a buggy, but pretty version of xmms)
[06:56] <Nariman> it says that xmms in not available :(
[06:56] <dv__> I dont use xmms much anymore. I rely on mpd & ncmpc & glurp today
[06:56] <gregg_> karlwrk, and many plugins aren't available for beep
[06:56] <Nariman> ok, how do i install glurp?
[06:57] <Nariman> and is it good?
[06:57] <dv__> Nariman, first:
[06:57] <dv__> glurp is a client.
[06:57] <dv__> mpd is a music player daemon
[06:57] <InquiringMind> where can i get the linux ums firmware for my iriver ifp 895?
[06:57] <ubuntu_> im new
[06:57] <dv__> it plays stuff in the background
[06:57] <karlwrk> and ncmpc?
[06:57] <dv__> and you can control it using clients like glurp
[06:57] <dv__> ncmpc is a client as well
[06:57] <karlwrk> new cool music player client
[06:57] <dv__> but using ncurses instead of gtk
[06:57] <Kyral> Nariman, did you enable the Universe and Multiverse?
[06:57] <richard> I just installed Ubuntu Hoary and I am getting 403 errors trying to update. What do I do?
[06:57] <dv__> the nice thing about mpd is that it runs even if X crashes
[06:58] <richard> Any idea how to fix this?
[06:58] <karlwrk> x shouldn't crash
[06:58] <dv__> in theory
[06:58] <karlwrk> and if it crashes, I generally don't care about my music anymore :)
[06:58] <drcode> hi all
[06:58] <dv__> in theory, I should be rich
[06:58] <dv__> :)
[06:58] <LOQUiLLO_> richard: maybe your cd is bad
[06:58] <drcode> with vncviewer there is menu , how can I get to this menu?
[06:58] <hubsi> hello, i have one problem. i don't hear sound. all controlers for sound are on maximum, and i don't know what to do. but if i want to disable/enable "tone" the program crashs
[06:58] <richard> the install went perfectly, this is trying to install security updates etc.
[06:59] <Kyral> richard, did you delete the "us." from the sources.list?
[06:59] <richard> no, I didnt try that
[06:59] <InquiringMind> where can i get the linux ums firmware for my iriver ifp 895?
[07:00] <InquiringMind> oops sry spammed ;(
[07:01] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[07:01] <fredforfaen> whats up?
[07:02] <LOQUiLLO_> richard: you need check you sources.list
[07:02] <LOQUiLLO_> comment E: ......
[07:02] <LOQUiLLO_> type #E: ....
[07:02] <hubsi> hello, i have one problem. i don't hear sound. all controlers for sound are on maximum, and i don't know what to do. but if i want to disable/enable "tone" the program crashs
[07:02] <Goodspeed> how do i remove a folder i dont have permission to
[07:02] <Goodspeed> ?
[07:02] <hubsi> Goodspeed, root, rm -R
[07:03] <Goodspeed> hubsi go to system/prefs and check the multimedia test
[07:03] <djp> Goodspeed: sudo rm -R
[07:03] <richard> Ok i took out the us in the sources list but still made no difference.
[07:04] <Goodspeed> should i install wine from the way they say to at winehq or use the ones from universe?
[07:04] <richard> I get W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:05] <Amd_> umm. the system says root password is wrong although i am sure that it isn't. how can i fix this / why isn't it accepting it?
[07:06] <Goodspeed> what version of wine should i get??
[07:06] <dArtagnan> the latest? (nah, too obvious :P)
[07:07] <mjr> Goodspeed, the one that's prepackaged at first?
[07:07] <Goodspeed> well when i download either of them the one on synaptic and the one from sourceforge there's no config file in .wine
[07:07] <oonoon> i installed ndiswrapper on amd64, got a IPN2220 wifi card ; everything seems to work (driver and hardware present for ndiswrapper) and yet, wlan doesnt appear in the Network menu...
[07:07] <mjr> oonoon, a 64-bit windows driver?
[07:08] <jacks> ime lost with the installing
[07:08] <oonoon> mjr > not sure, suppose it is 32 bits driver
[07:08] <jacks> is thear a good book i can get
[07:08] <njean> hey all
[07:08] <sidnei> X still broken?
[07:09] <njean> I need some help :(
[07:09] <mjr> oonoon, if you're running a 64-bit kernel on your box, you can't use 32-bit windows drivers via ndiswrapper
[07:09] <mastaYoda> Hi
[07:09] <mastaYoda> Any developer there?
[07:09] <mjr> oonoon, 'course, if you run a 32-bit kernel, things are different
[07:09] <Coss> Hey when i download ubuntu i download the .iso file, is it just to burn that file on a cd and boot?
[07:09] <oonoon> mjr > i agree, but im surprised there's no error msgs...
[07:09] <njean> why I can't hear any sound except system sounds like the ubuntu drums?
[07:09] <dv__> is mpg123 for ubuntu available?
[07:09] <dv__> and the xmms plugin of it?
[07:10] <Choubaka> yes.
[07:10] <Choubaka> maybe in universe.
[07:10] <oonoon> mjr > i run a 64-bit kernel
[07:10] <dv__> good. how does one add "universe" to the sources list in ubuntu?
[07:10] <dv__> /etc/sources.list seems to be empty
[07:10] <njean> can anybody please help me with sounds please? I don't know where to crash my head :(
[07:10] <Choubaka> well, of course
[07:10] <MadForest>  help: Trying to install on laptop which will NOT boot to CD; trying to use loadlin. Anyone here familar with this process?
[07:11] <oonoon> mjr > isnt that weird that ndiswrapper detects the hardware anyway ?
[07:11] <Choubaka> since it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <Determinist> guys, chould you try and reach deterport.ath.cx from your browser and tell me if my webserver works?
[07:11] <dv__> doh :o)
[07:11] <Coss>  Hey when i download ubuntu i download the .iso file, is it just to burn that file on a cd and boot? Please someone answer
[07:11] <dv__> and where is "universe"?
[07:11] <mjr> oonoon, right, then if the driver is 32-bit, no go. Naughty of it not to give a proper error. And no, detecting the hardware is easy; just try lspci.
[07:11] <MadForest> coss: yes, that's basically right. Make sure your bios is set to boot to CD
[07:11] <dv__> is it a branch, like main and non-free in debian?
[07:11] <Choubaka> yes.
[07:11] <dv__> k
[07:11] <neighborlee> is memtest86 reliable enough to believe its giving accurate info...it is showing some bad ram but I want to be SURE before I get more ram..???
[07:11] <djp> Coss: use the iso to burn yo CD. then bott with said CD
[07:11] <Coss> MadForest, thankyou for the answer, yes i have :)
[07:11] <Choubaka> universe enables unsupported packages
[07:12] <Amd_> Why didn't Ubuntu install Synaptic?
[07:12] <Coss> djp huh?
[07:12] <oonoon> mjr > so , i must conclude that there's a prob with the driver itself ... ?
[07:12] <njean> why I can't hear any sound except system sounds like the ubuntu drums? please help :(
[07:12] <Choubaka> and multiverse enables nonfree
[07:12] <Amd_> HOW CAN I INSTALL SYNAPTIC?
[07:12] <njean> sudo apt-get install synaptic ?
[07:12] <Determinist> Amd_, apt-get install synaptic
[07:12] <mjr> oonoon, no, as I said, if it's a 32-bit driver, it's just incompatible with your 64-bit kernel, and you can't use it
[07:12] <djp> Coss: use the iso you downloaded to burn a CD, then boot from said CD. Then follow the prompts
[07:12] <MadForest>  help: Trying to install on laptop which will NOT boot to CD; trying to use loadlin. Anyone here familar with this process?
[07:13] <djp> Amd_: synaptic is installed by default
[07:13] <oonoon> mjr > yeah , i understand that, so it is possible for the driver to be incompatible and to show no error msgs; damn
[07:13] <njean> why I can't hear any sound except system sounds like the ubuntu drums? please help :(
[07:13] <Goodspeed> ./configure && make && make install && ldconfig
[07:13] <dv__> njean, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:13] <mjr> oonoon, it's not the job of the driver to give errors, it's ndiswrapper's
[07:13] <njean> ubuntu, dv
[07:13] <Goodspeed> you use that command to install any tar file right?
[07:13] <dv__> could be arts blocking stuff
[07:13] <dv__> ah
[07:13] <oonoon> mjr > ok, thanks for your help
[07:13] <mjr> (in this case)
[07:13] <patrick__> hi
[07:14] <Amd_> djp: well it isn't on KDE's "administration" menu
[07:14] <njean> I really dont know what to do..
[07:14] <patrick__> has someone a good sources.list
[07:14] <MadForest> ANYONE?: Trying to install on laptop which will NOT boot to CD; trying to use loadlin. Anyone here familar with this process?
[07:14] <djp> Amd_: sorry, referring to the default install which is gnome
[07:15] <patrick__> which the latest kde- and gnomedesktop environment?
[07:15] <f_newton> loadlin eh?
[07:15] <dv__> njean, fire up an xterm
[07:15] <dv__> and type ps -e
[07:15] <dv__> look for mplayer, xine, artsd...
[07:15] <Choubaka> Amd_: for KDE you need kynaptic
[07:16] <patrick__> no
[07:16] <patrick__> synaptic does that job as well
[07:16] <patrick__> ^
[07:16] <patrick__> u simply have to add kde strings
[07:16] <Choubaka> Well, it's still gnome.
[07:16] <patrick__> to the sources.list
[07:16] <Choubaka> :P
[07:16] <Choubaka> for KDE you _should_ use kynaptic.
[07:16] <Choubaka> because it's a QT app, whereas synaptic is not
[07:16] <patrick__> its a less comfortable synaptic rpelacement
[07:17] <{linuxcraker] > madforest, check your bios to make it boot from cd
[07:17] <patrick__> why should i use Kynaptic if synatic does the better job?
[07:17] <MadForest> linuxcraker; thanks, of course I checked that. no new bios available either
[07:17] <patrick__> Choubaka, why is that important?
[07:17] <Goodspeed> where's the wine forum?
[07:17] <Frafra> hi all
[07:17] <patrick__> Goodspeed, isnt wine now called cedega?
[07:17] <{linuxcraker] > and you can't enable it?
[07:17] <Choubaka> no.
[07:17] <Goodspeed> i dont want to pay for windows when i already own it
[07:17] <Choubaka> patrick__: because Gnome apps will have to load Gnome libraties.
[07:17] <Frafra> ppracer give me this error: Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) <= why?
[07:18] <Choubaka> Frafra: Hard to say
[07:18] <patrick__> Choubaka, i didnt even noticed a speed drop
[07:18] <patrick__> 1gb ram
[07:18] <patrick__> amd64 cpu
[07:18] <Choubaka> patrick__: but it takes a longer time to load
[07:18] <patrick__> not really
[07:18] <Choubaka> AND not everyone has such a monster for a desktop
[07:18] <Frafra> Choubaka: i need some libraries?
[07:18] <Choubaka> :P
[07:18] <Choubaka> Frafra: no.
[07:18] <Amd_> how can i locate kynaptic installed packages???
[07:18] <Choubaka> Frafra: The program has a bug.
[07:18] <dv__> is it safe to call apt-get update in ubuntu?
[07:19] <Choubaka> dv__: yes.
[07:19] <dv__> good.
[07:19] <dv__> for instance, to get the universe stuff
[07:19] <patrick__> well.. if osmeone would share his special kde and gnome desktop sources list
[07:19] <Choubaka> In fact, it's required if you want to keep the system maintained :P
[07:19] <patrick__> it would save time
[07:19] <patrick__> coze we have the same probleme Amd_
[07:19] <patrick__> clean install and a lack of good osurces ;)
[07:19] <Choubaka> Good sources?
[07:19] <patrick__> ya... e.g. some bookmarks in pastebin
[07:19] <{linuxcraker] > why cant i change song names in xmms?
[07:19] <Choubaka> what do you need that's not in Ubuntu's repositories?
[07:20] <patrick__> i simply could copy
[07:20] <f_newton> hmm i thought lilo was pretty much dead
[07:20] <djp> patrick__: just add the universe repo. that should be all you need...
[07:20] <patrick__> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main <--- that e.g
[07:20] <Choubaka> aha. :P
[07:21] <patrick__> Choubaka, do u have kde as well
[07:21] <Choubaka> no
[07:21] <patrick__> i need a complete sources list for any life situations
[07:21] <djp> patrick__: you should check out #kubuntu
[07:21] <patrick__> djp, not yet
[07:22] <patrick__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/527 <-- missing there something?
[07:22] <Pega> Hey. If I find a program/game that I want to install and binaries are only available for other distros (fedora core 3 in this situation) can I use them anyways?
[07:23] <{linuxcraker] > why not
[07:24] <Pega> I dunno. Just tough that there were diffrent binaries for diffrent versions for some reason. :D
[07:24] <Kyral> Pega, if they are RPMs you will have to run them through alien first
[07:24] <neighborlee> is memtest86 reliable enough to believe its giving accurate info...it is showing some bad ram but I want to be SURE before I get more ram..???
[07:24] <Pega> ok
[07:24] <patrick__> btw. can i modify grup to boot windows automatically
[07:24] <Kyral> if it is a sourceball, I would check Apt first to see if you can avoid compiling it
[07:25] <CarlFK> neighborlee - I can't imagine it giving a false negative
[07:25] <f_newton> neighborlee, are you experiencing problems with system operations?
[07:25] <neighborlee> I sure am
[07:25] <Kyral> and if its a DEB just do sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[07:25] <neighborlee> mostly in linux...windows rarely if ever crashes
[07:25] <f_newton> that would be a second opinion then
[07:25] <neighborlee> however doNOT take that as me liking windows better..OH contraire
[07:26] <neighborlee> f_newton, yes..I get the weird dektop lockups that others also are seeing  in gnome
[07:26] <neighborlee> f_newton, but not others are seeing it of course..so I guess in my case at least bad ram is indeed a culrprit
[07:26] <djp> is the lock up occuring under hoary or breezy?
[07:26] <neighborlee> hoary
[07:27] <neighborlee> djp, so you know..I h ave that darn rambus .got it with my dell computer few years ago
[07:27] <patrick__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/976
[07:27] <f_newton> neighborlee, weird lockups in gnome?  have you checked your logs?
[07:27] <patrick__> any thing to add there?
[07:27] <neighborlee> f_newton, several times
[07:27] <neighborlee> f_newton, nothing useable or enlightening
[07:28] <Nariman> can someone help me install wine??
[07:28] <f_newton> memory scheduling and allocation would be my first guess... I would also check to see if threadcalls were being ignored...another possible memory culprit
[07:28] <neighborlee> but if ram is causing this,,is it really going to show up anywhere in a log ??
[07:28] <f_newton> it should explain that a threadcall was halted or unacted on
[07:28] <reka> patrick__: you can tell grub to boot windows automatically by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst and changing the 'default' value
[07:28] <neighborlee> f_newton, hmm interesting..what log should show me this culprit
[07:29] <Choubaka> neighborlee: Have you run memtest?
[07:29] <f_newton> does the kernel do a syslog anymore y'all?
[07:29] <neighborlee> Choubaka, yes
[07:30] <neighborlee> Choubaka, the bottom section does indeed show some bad sectors..I just wanted to be sure memtest was reliable before I coughed up for different ram
[07:30] <Choubaka> neighborlee: google for "badram"
[07:30] <f_newton> neighborlee, two questions 1.  is this a laptop  2.  is it bargain ram?
[07:30] <neighborlee> f_newton, heh
[07:31] <f_newton> of course laptop ram is no bargain...
[07:31] <Choubaka> neighborlee: badram may be a workaround until you can get new ram
[07:31] <neighborlee> f_newton, not laptop..and it is not bargain ram..it is this..rambus stuff that came with my dell dimension 8200 system
[07:31] <f_newton> rambus?
[07:31] <neighborlee> Choubaka, hmm interesting..thank you I will look into it...
[07:31] <f_newton> hmmm is that stuff still around?
[07:31] <neighborlee> f_newton, yes
[07:31] <neighborlee> f_newton, ONLY from dell faik
[07:31] <neighborlee> which means PRICEY im relatively sure LOL
[07:32] <f_newton> yes rambus is high dollar
[07:32] <neighborlee> and I dont really want to go there..might just have to g et new puter altogether
[07:32] <f_newton> mucho elcosto alot-o
[07:32] <neighborlee> LOL
[07:32] <ep> Is this channel archived somewhere?
[07:32] <paul__> nbmnbmnb
[07:32] <Choubaka> ep: I have logs. :P
[07:32] <f_newton> neighborlee, well if worse comes to worse you can buy a new system n send the old one to ME
[07:32] <f_newton> lol
[07:33] <neighborlee> heh
[07:33] <f_newton> ram bus isnt THAT high
[07:33] <neighborlee> you guys/gals ? are the best
[07:33] <neighborlee> cute room I will say that..laugher rules!! ( glad RTFM is gone)
[07:33] <neighborlee> bbl after work day
[07:33] <neighborlee> meep meep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[07:33] <f_newton> Choubaka, arent there syslogs showing stop errors ?
[07:34] <patrick__> reka, thx. i will try it :)
[07:34] <ep> Choubaka, great  grep 'ep' and paste em :)
[07:34] <Choubaka> ep: eh.
[07:34] <f_newton> neighborlee is another convert from fedora
[07:35] <Choubaka> I won't paste them, but I can send them to you
[07:35] <Choubaka> ep: though, you realise "ep" is probably a common two-letter combo in sentences?
[07:35] <root> hi all
[07:35] <ep> how about 'ep:'
[07:36] <Choubaka> I'll try that
[07:36] <ep> for today
[07:36] <root> hi all
[07:37] <Kyral> hello
[07:37] <dv__> or <ep>
[07:38] <redtech> hello root
[07:38] <dv__> a root in here?
[07:38] <redtech> tsk tsk
[07:38] <dv__> gimme your ip...
[07:38] <dv__> :P
[07:39] <Choubaka> ep: http://ihme.org/~choubaka/ep.log.bz2
[07:39] <Kyral> lol
[07:39] <Kyral> !lart dv__
[07:39] <ep> thanks!
[07:39] <Choubaka> ep: that'll only have stuff said to you, though.
[07:39] <dv__> go on
[07:39] <Nariman> :(:( can some one help me install wine??
[07:39] <dv__> I can rename myself to dv___
[07:39] <dv__> :)
[07:40] <Kyral> root: It ain't a good idea to run XChat as root user
[07:40] <dv__> it aint a good idea to be in the internet as root user
[07:40] <Kyral> true
[07:40] <dv__> unless you have to install stuff
[07:40] <reka> lart?
[07:41] <Kyral> last I knew, XChat yelled at you for running it as root
[07:41] <sun> anyone know how to install ALSA 1.0.8 in ubuntu?
[07:41] <mjr> sun, isn't it installed by default?
[07:41] <Nariman> anyone know how to install Wine
[07:41] <Kyral> what version does it run now?
[07:41] <Choubaka> What's the in-kernel version?
[07:41] <Kyral> Nariman: sudo apt-get install wine?
[07:41] <Choubaka> Nariman: sudo aptitude install wine
[07:41] <redtech> Nariman: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:41] <redtech> heh
[07:41] <sun> mjr, that's what i thought, but version 1.0.6 comes with ubuntu; not version 1.0.8
[07:41] <Nariman> is it so simple??
[07:41] <root> if I have console that open , how can I close it from remote client?
[07:41] <root> only by reset?
[07:42] <dv__> should be
[07:42] <redtech> Nariman: that it is
[07:42] <Kyral> yes Nariman
[07:42] <Choubaka> sun: Do you need version 1.0.8 for something?
[07:42] <root> I mean reboot?
[07:42] <dv__> unless someone moved it away because of licensing problems
[07:42] <dv__> then things get ugly
[07:42] <Choubaka> sun: It'll be troublesome to install since it's kernel-space
[07:42] <sun> Choubaka, yes to get my audigy 2 value working
[07:42] <Kyral> Nariman, most of the software installs easy :D
[07:42] <coreyo> has anyone had luck using suspend-to-ram/sleep with an sata controller ... namely the piix sata controller?
[07:42] <Nariman> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:42] <dv__> sun, kernel 2.6 has alsa built-in
[07:42] <Nariman> easy huh? :)
[07:42] <Choubaka> Nariman: use sudo.
[07:42] <Kyral> yah
[07:42] <Nariman> adn that means?
[07:42] <Kyral> sudo!
[07:42] <sun> dv__, correct but it's using alsa 1.0.6, not 1.0.8
[07:43] <ep> Choubaka, I see, weird I was in here about 2 hours ago and got some advise using find and grep.  Those tells are missing from the logs.  Maybe an hour ago.
[07:43] <dv__> Nariman, are you running apt already?
[07:43] <dv__> installing something?
[07:43] <Choubaka> Nariman: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[07:43] <Choubaka> :P
[07:43] <Choubaka> oh, yeah.
[07:43] <sun> alsa 1.0.6 doesn't support soundblaster audigy 2
[07:43] <dv__> he's logged as root already
[07:43] <ep> no big deal,  thanks for trying
[07:43] <dv__> no need for sudo
[07:43] <Choubaka> Are you running synaptic?
[07:43] <Elrohir> quick question: how to install new fonts on Hoary and where to find them?
[07:43] <Elrohir> and btw, does Hoary support ttf?
[07:43] <Nariman> wtf, same thing
[07:43] <patrick__> do i have to uncomment deb-src entries as well?
[07:44] <Pega> Umm. I installed nethack from synaptic... I think. It did install, but where does it install stuff? atleast applications -> games doesn't show it.
[07:44] <reka> Elrohir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[07:44] <sun> Choubaka, will i have to compile stuff?
[07:44] <Choubaka> Pega: it probably doesn't create proper gnome menu entries.
[07:44] <Elrohir> thnk you...
[07:44] <Choubaka> sun: yes.
[07:44] <dv__> Pega, try calling it from the console
[07:45] <Pega> How. Will I tjust try something like nethack as a command? xD
[07:45] <Choubaka> yes.
[07:45] <dv__> just type "nethack"
[07:45] <Pega> oh
[07:45] <Pega> :D
[07:45] <dv__> its funny-looking, yeah :)
[07:45] <sun> Choubaka, it's weird; synaptic says i have alsa 1.0.8 but when i cat /proc/asound/version it says 1.0.6
[07:45] <Pega> oh
[07:45] <Pega> it worked
[07:45] <Choubaka> sun: you downloaded the modules?
[07:45] <Pega> thx
[07:45] <Choubaka> sun: or wtf?
[07:45] <dv__> sun, yes, the KERNEL alsa is 1.0.6,
[07:45] <dv__> and this is the active one
[07:46] <reka> Pega: this your 1st linux distro?
[07:46] <dv__> the non-kernel 1.0.8 is ignored
[07:46] <sun> oh
[07:46] <dv__> at least thats what I suspect
[07:46] <sun> how do i tell the system to use the non-kernel 1.0.8?
[07:46] <dv__> this I dunno.
[07:47] <dv__> but it would be better to patch the kernel I think.
[07:47] <dv__> are there alsa kernel patches?
[07:47] <Elrohir> does Hoary support TrueType fonts?
[07:47] <sJaM> alsa is no kernel patch
[07:47] <sJaM> I thought
[07:47] <Pega> reka, kinda. I used Linux before I used windows (like... when I was 8 years old), but this is my first time from the time that I remember anything about.
[07:47] <wilhelm> how can i install Tcl/Tk 8.3 ??
[07:48] <root> I login as regular user
[07:48] <root> I can see what users login and shutdown
[07:48] <reka> Pega: geez, that was an early start. :)
[07:48] <sun> i know alsa 1.0.8 works with my card because that's what i was using in FC4
[07:49] <wahlau> re
[07:49] <wahlau> any have experience usign hoary with realplayer to play rmvb?
[07:49] <wahlau> !realplay
[07:49] <ubotu> wahlau: Are you smoking crack?
[07:49] <sun> know any place i can get testing kernel builds?
[07:49] <wahlau> !realplayer
[07:49] <ubotu> No idea, wahlau
[07:49] <wilhelm> how can i install Tcl/Tk 8.3 ?? help plz
[07:49] <Elrohir> does Hoary support TrueType fonts?
[07:50] <wahlau> wilhelm: have you tried using synaptic?
[07:50] <Pega> reka, yeah, my father thought that "why to teach that lil fella to use some crappy and expensive software isntead of this one that I use myself?"... Not sure why I changedf to windows later, but it just happened. :(
[07:50] <dv__> the games, maybe?
[07:50] <wilhelm> i dont know how to do this
[07:50] <Hackmo> Hey all, firefox just crashed on me and I closed it using the red cross you can add the the pannel
[07:50] <wilhelm> how i use synaptic?
[07:50] <Hackmo> now when I try to start it, it asks me to select a profile but when I do it says that it's already in use
[07:50] <sJaM> wilhelm, sudo apt-get install tcl8.3 tk8.3
[07:50] <Hackmo> any ideas on how to sort it?
[07:50] <recover> ubuntuforums.org is down?
[07:51] <reka> recover: seems to be
[07:51] <reka> Hackmo: do you have multiple profiles?
[07:51] <Hackmo> yeah two, but only because I had this problem before and I needed to resort to making a new profile
[07:52] <Hackmo> there was a command someone told me to type "killall something" which helped, killall firefox doesn't seem to be working though
[07:53] <dv__> OMG
[07:53] <dv__> 2794 MB
[07:53] <dv__> for the dvd iso
[07:53] <Elrohir> does Hoary support TrueType fonts?
[07:53] <dv__> Elerosse, yes
[07:53] <dv__> uh
[07:53] <dv__> Elrohir, yes
[07:54] <reka> Hackmo: might help: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use
[07:54] <Elrohir> thanx...
[07:54] <weejamer> can anyone help me with mounting drive problems
[07:54] <wahlau> and rmvb?
[07:54] <wahlau> :D
[07:54] <Hackmo> reka: thanks
[07:54] <wahlau> weejamer: shoot?
[07:54] <dArtagnan> Hackmo, there is a tool to kill apps
[07:54] <Hackmo> reka: I just realised that I can't get to that link because I can't use firefox
[07:54] <weejamer> i have some Fat drives that wont mount and i don;t know why
[07:54] <dArtagnan> like the windows task manager
[07:55] <Hackmo> dArtagnan: yeah that's what caused this problem
[07:55] <wahlau> weejamer: wat fat?
[07:55] <wahlau> ntfs?
[07:55] <weejamer> fat 32
[07:55] <wahlau> FAT32?
[07:55] <wahlau> funny
[07:55] <wahlau> works for me
[07:55] <rgould> Anyone recommend any good XML viewing/editing tools for Ubuntu?
[07:55] <reka> Hackmo: lol
[07:55] <dv__> rgould, nedit
[07:55] <dv__> :)
[07:55] <dArtagnan> Hackmo, system monitor
[07:55] <wahlau> what does the error message says?
[07:55] <wahlau> /var/log/message ?
[07:55] <sun> can anyone help me install alsa-source package into the kernel?
[07:55] <Chaotic_Reality> anyone had any trouble with ubuntu randomly shutting down their pc?  i have a laptop, and after installing it a few months ago i had this issue.  i tried it again yesterday and it is still doing it. the /var/log/messages really doesn't show anything useful around the time it happens...it typically happens within an hour of inactivity
[07:55] <wahlau> s/message/messages
[07:55] <patrick__> does someone have a good deb source for the latest openoffice beta?
[07:56] <weejamer> mount /dev/hda2
[07:56] <weejamer> mount: can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:56] <dArtagnan> patrick__, tried openoffice.org? :P
[07:56] <reka> Hackmo: it basically says firefox probably didn't shut down properly, so your profile is locked
[07:56] <patrick__> a deb source would be nice :)
[07:56] <Hackmo> dArtagnan, reka: thanks i've got it now, I needed to do killall firefox-bin instead of killall firefox :)
[07:57] <dv__> I want to know why firefox is so much slower in X11 than in windows sometimes
[07:57] <sun> any kernel hackers here?
[07:57] <dArtagnan> patrick__, http://people.debian.org/~halls/openoffice/source/
[07:58] <dArtagnan> try this one
[07:58] <sun> i'm trying to install alsa-source package into the kernel? please help :)
[07:58] <weejamer> guess you don;t know wahlau
[07:58] <dArtagnan> don't know if that is the correct url, ubuntu forums aren't working
[07:59] <reka> i was gonna say to try this:
[07:59] <reka> !alsa
[07:59] <ubotu> hmm... alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:59] <reka> heh, double link
[07:59] <sun> lol i opened both
[07:59] <reka> ubotu: alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:59] <ubotu> ...but alsa is already something else...
[07:59] <reka> ubotu: forget alsa
[07:59] <ubotu> i forgot alsa, reka
[07:59] <reka> ubotu: alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[08:00] <weejamer> can anyone help me with mounting windows partitions (newbie to linux)
[08:00] <wilhelm> ./tibiawish: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <<what should i do??>>
[08:00] <reka> !mount
[08:00] <ubotu> methinks mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:00] <reka> weejamer: there you go
[08:01] <Quest-Master> dv__: for me, all apps. load slower than on Windows
[08:01] <rgould> dv__, thanks
[08:01] <reka> Quest-Master: what's your system?
[08:01] <sun> is ubotu a robot?
[08:01] <dv__> rgould, actually that wasnt meant seriously :)
[08:01] <dv__> but ok, nedit *is* a cool editor
[08:01] <rgould> dv__, heh, well, it loaded the xml file that firefox couldn't :)
[08:01] <weejamer> thanx *reading*
[08:01] <dv__> well, yeah
[08:01] <_Di42lo> my xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?
[08:01] <dv__> nedit can handle a lot
[08:02] <reka> sun: he's a chatbot, yes
[08:02] <ixiz> hi
[08:02] <ixiz> how do I install MS fonts?
[08:02] <dArtagnan> there are two packages with ms fonts
[08:02] <ixiz> i searhed on google, but can't get in on the homepages for some reason
[08:02] <dArtagnan> the url is on ubuntu forums
[08:02] <dArtagnan> but it's down now
[08:02] <_Di42lo> ixiz find them and download them to ~.fonts
[08:03] <Quest-Master> reka: 2.4 Ghz Celeron, 256MB RAM, 40GB HD with DMA
[08:03] <reka> Quest-Master: and this is with gnome?
[08:03] <wahlau> weejamer: you still there?
[08:03] <zetor> hello all!
[08:03] <Quest-Master> reka: Firefox takes 30 seconds to load compared to 5 on Windows, Rhythmbox 15 while foobar2000 takes 2, console on Gnome takes 10 seconds while Windows takes 1
[08:03] <Quest-Master> reka: Yes
[08:03] <ixiz> What's the name of that package?
[08:04] <wilhelm> who know how to install and play tibia in ubuntu?
[08:04] <reka> Quest-Master: your system is OK, maybe you should try a more lightweight window manager just to compare...xfce is a nice choice
[08:04] <dv__> firefox also is sluggish on some sites
[08:04] <dv__> compared to windows
[08:04] <Quest-Master> reka: I don't see why a window manager would slow everything down so much though
[08:04] <Quest-Master> Nautilus is also buggy and unresponsive at many times
[08:05] <dv__> i like konqueror
[08:05] <Quest-Master> And the main Gnome menu freezes the entire Gnome system for 10 seconds while it loads
[08:05] <wilhelm> who know how to install and play tibia in ubuntu?
[08:05] <anacron> Quest-Master: have you upgraded your kernel?
[08:05] <dv__> its much quicker than nautilus, and more reliable
[08:05] <Quest-Master> anacron: Sure have
[08:05] <anacron> that's weird
[08:05] <_Di42lo> ixiz find them and download them to ~.fonts
[08:05] <anacron> since everything i do in linux is usually faster than doing it in windows
[08:05] <_Di42lo> oops
[08:05] <Quest-Master> I've had this problem from as far back as I remember, I just put up with it till I reinstalled Windows and noticed the speed differences
[08:05] <_Di42lo> my xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?
[08:06] <wilhelm> who know how to install and play tibia in ubuntu?
[08:06] <Quest-Master> wilhelm: Google?
[08:06] <anacron> wilhelm: google
[08:06] <anacron> :D
[08:06] <wilhelm> ;/
[08:06] <Quest-Master> So yeah.. sadly, I haven't used Ubuntu once during the summer
[08:06] <anacron> wilhelm: you can try also with apt-cache search tibia
[08:06] <wilhelm> i thought u tell me
[08:06] <wilhelm> ;/
[08:06] <Quest-Master> wilheelm: asking every other minute won't help
[08:07] <anacron> wilhelm: what's the meaning of life?
[08:07] <jatos> hi
[08:07] <anacron> and don't say it's 42
[08:07] <Quest-Master> microsoft_bob rofl
[08:07] <dv__> hmm
[08:07] <dv__> microsoft
[08:07] <zetor> hehe
[08:08] <_Di42lo> my xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?
[08:08] <dv__> this reminds me of "you've got questions. we've got dancing paperclips."
[08:08] <Quest-Master> I hate Microsoft with a passion, but currently, their OS loads apps. faster than Ubuntu :(
[08:08] <onur> Hello, my wireless connection is occasionally cut down without any reason how can i fix it ?
[08:08] <dv__> Quest-Master, well they got some things right
[08:08] <anacron> _Di42lo: try to install something like xserver-xorg
[08:08] <dv__> directx9, VS, .net
[08:09] <Quest-Master> onur: Does this happen while running large downloads or using a P2P program like Bittorrent?
[08:09] <Quest-Master> dv__: I dislike their policies a lot
[08:09] <zetor> dv__::-)
[08:09] <f_newton> Quest-Master, I have to say I have not experienced you load up times in either windows or unbuntu.  Ive found ubuntu to load much faster the every os Ive used to date.  Also, as far as windows load times go, that depends entirely on what you already have running.  Check your processes.   Yes from a cold start gnome and assorted gui apps take a couple of seconds longer but not as dramatic as you suggest...  If you system is freezing I suggest you look in
[08:09] <f_newton> to the possible causes noting that this is in no way a usual scenario
[08:09] <onur> Quest-Master, no i just leave the computer for a while and when i get  back i realied the connection went off
[08:10] <sJaM> I have to agree with f_newton, if you are running windows for a few hours intensively
[08:10] <onur> realized*
[08:10] <sJaM> performance rapidly decrease
[08:10] <Quest-Master> f_newton: There a number of threads with the exact same symptoms I am having on the UbuntuForums.. also some threads on the mailing list
[08:10] <Quest-Master> onur: Odd.
[08:10] <dv__> their policies are a pest, yeah
[08:10] <onur> Quest-Master,  and i have used Suse with this comp, never such thing happened
[08:11] <Quest-Master> onur: Using ndiswrapper?
[08:11] <dv__> f_newton, one thing windows can do better is the responsiveness
[08:11] <dv__> not a lot better though
[08:11] <reka> Quest-Master: OOI, what kernel are you using?
[08:11] <onur> Quest-Master, just freshed installed Ubuntu, should i ? cause wireless is mostly working
[08:11] <dv__> they run the GUI in their own threads
[08:11] <f_newton> well I would look at the threadcalls in comparison with your processor/memory scheduling.  I would do two things right off the bat... 1. check to see memory is quality not kmart brand 2.  upgrade to at least 512meg
[08:11] <dv__> which helps reducing the latency
[08:11] <Quest-Master> onur: No need then..
[08:12] <f_newton> something else to check is conflicts
[08:12] <Quest-Master> reka: 2.6.10-5-686, I believe
[08:12] <f_newton> dv thats because they are pre set to run
[08:12] <dv__> a GUI thread runs in background,
[08:12] <dv__> and reacts to input
[08:12] <MyLeftNut> Is www.ubuntuforums.org down for anyone else?
[08:12] <dArtagnan> thing might be that windows preloads a lot of programs
[08:12] <dv__> which is better than having the GUI running in sync with the app
[08:12] <_Di42lo> my xorg doesnt start...because of missing fonts...(the directory share/X11/fonts is empty) what should i do ?
[08:13] <dv__> yes, windows preloads lots of stuff
[08:13] <reka> MyLeftNut: yes. me too.
[08:13] <dv__> but it doesnt have as much layers as an X11 app has to use
[08:13] <f_newton> When it comes to actual completion of tasks (for me) linux outperforms windows on stability, speed, and security.  Now like they say on tv these times may vary
[08:13] <onur> MyLeftNut, yes me too
[08:14] <patrick__> i need help with my sources list
[08:14] <onur> Hello, my wireless connection is occasionally cut down without any reason how can i fix it ?
[08:14] <f_newton> if windows workd better for me I'd use it, believe me... I am not some paranoid skitz that thinks an os is out to get me
[08:14] <MyLeftNut> Okay, I feel somewhat lost without it
[08:14] <f_newton> I own close to ten grand of win software but I use linux
[08:14] <f_newton> go figure
[08:14] <patrick__> is it possible to modify the list, so that it lists automatically any updates on openoffice.org?
[08:14] <Kyral> onur, its prolly just flux
[08:14] <Kyral> it happens to me all the time
[08:15] <onur> Kyral, can you justify it ?
[08:15] <Keegan> how do I use SUDO? And how are applications installed on linux?
[08:15] <patrick__> ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/ <-- like that site?
[08:15] <Kyral> Its just the signal
[08:15] <f_newton> onu or cell phone/wireless base phone interference
[08:15] <Quest-Master> Oh well
[08:15] <avokado> i have used synaptic to install firestarter, but i cant get it started ,this i what i get:  A proper configuration for Firestarter was not found. If you are running Firestarter from the directory you built it in, run 'make install-data-local' to install a configuration, or simply 'make install' to install the whole program.but i dont know how to do it
[08:15] <Quest-Master> Maybe Breezy will do better with GCC4
[08:15] <Kyral> I know that for me its because I'm in a house thats non too conductive to WiFi
[08:15] <dv__> hmm
[08:15] <dv__> the kernel got some realtime patches
[08:15] <onur> Kyral, i was using Suse for this comp, and windows earlier, never happened such thing before with this distance
[08:16] <dv__> lets see how this performs in the wild
[08:16] <dv__> whether it really helps reducing latency
[08:16] <onur> Kyral, and the only way i can correct is reboot
[08:16] <reka> Keegan: you use sudo whenever you need to do a 'priveliged' action....you can install programs using apt-get /aptitude or the GUI program synaptic:
[08:16] <Kyral> That I don't know
[08:16] <reka> !synaptic
[08:16] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:16] <f_newton> Quest-Master, if you can show me some actual processor runtime logs I can look at them.  I know that is kind of a lot to ask and probably unreasonable but without the actual data I can only surmise from my experience and your description
[08:16] <Kyral> if you wanna try to deactivate the interface then reactivate it
[08:16] <Kyral> it works for me sometimes
[08:16] <onur> Kyral, doesn't for me
[08:17] <f_newton> onur change the channel to two from six
[08:17] <Quest-Master> f_newton: Where would these be stored?
[08:17] <patrick__> is it impoosible?
[08:18] <onur> f_newton, from the router ?
[08:18] <f_newton> you would actually have to install an independent monitor ... I think windows has an old one for early ntfs 5 that u can use on xp systems
[08:18] <dv__> ubuntu uses kde3.4?
[08:18] <f_newton> onu on your wifi card And the router
[08:18] <avokado> can somebody help me whit firestarter
[08:18] <microsoft_bob> go prodigy!!!!
[08:18] <f_newton> kubuntu does I hear
[08:18] <f_newton> ubuntu uses gnome
[08:19] <zetor> dv__:kubuntu
[08:19] <jms_> hi
[08:19] <dv__> yes, kubuntu
[08:19] <MyLeftNut> Is there a way of installing KDE alongside GNOME, and if I do whats the method of changing from oe to the other
[08:20] <mjr> MyLeftNut, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and you can pick one when logging in
[08:20] <reka> avokado: i'm not familiar with the app, but how are you trying to run it?
[08:20] <MyLeftNut> Nice one, cheers
[08:20] <reka> MyLeftNut: what mjr said.  just choose your DE from the sessions menu
[08:20] <MyLeftNut> Nice one, thanks
[08:20] <MyLeftNut> And is that the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu, or is there more to it?
[08:21] <shackan> firefox doesn't display fonts anymore!
[08:21] <f_newton> personally Quest-Master I think you may be experiencing the result of components getting too hot or too much wintel instruction set interference
[08:21] <mjr> MyLeftNut, that is the only one
[08:21] <Quest-Master> f_newton: dunno.
[08:21] <reka> isn't their package manager different?
[08:21] <f_newton> do remember the celeron is not a performance model
[08:21] <shackan> I've read someone had firefox fonts disappear after upgrading X, but I didn't do that
[08:21] <dv__> celeron is an overclocker chip
[08:22] <f_newton> and with only 256meg memory your are straining the system with a modern kernel
[08:22] <dv__> a russian roulette overclocker chip
[08:22] <MyLeftNut> Ahh yes, one last thing. I followed the instructions on Ubuntuforums about getting Thunderbird to integrate with Firefox by making the firefox-mailto-fix.sh and using the about:config addition, but clicking on mailto links just does nothing
[08:22] <f_newton> dv__, celeron is a crippled chip, intentionally, the l2 cache is drastically reduced
[08:22] <dv__> things run OK
[08:23] <topyli> i just found out cedega now supports worms armageddon. i also found out you can get cedega for free from the cvs. anybody tried to build it?
[08:23] <avokado> reka: i  have used synaptic, but cant get it started
[08:23] <onur> let me tell you a story
[08:23] <reka> MyLeftNut: sys > prefs > preferred apps > mail reader perhaps?
[08:23] <xmen90s> for the love of all that is holy ... someone please help me! :@
[08:24] <onur> Tanzan and Ekido were once traveling together down a muddy road. A heavy rain was still falling. Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash, unable to cross the intersection.
[08:24] <f_newton> I am concerned with the two reports today of gnome freezing
[08:24] <reka> avokado: yes, but how are you trying to start firestarter?
[08:24] <avokado> not the proper configurations it says, i can copy the error message so you can see what it says when i trie to open firestarter
[08:24] <f_newton> I am a dedicated gnomeuser and I want to know what happened
[08:24] <xmen90s> i haven't been able to connect to the internet on ubuntu and i installed it like 5 days ago, ive been trying to get connected but with no luck
[08:24] <onur> Come on, girl" said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried her over the mud. Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging temple.
[08:24] <xmen90s> ive followed all the tutorials i can find, but nothing seems to be working
[08:24] <anacron> can i resize "unix resolution" somehow, like in gentoo?
[08:24] <avokado> i double klick on the icon
[08:25] <reka> anacron: define resize
[08:25] <onur> Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't go near females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is dangerous. Why did you do that?"
[08:25] <onur> I left the girl there, said Tanzan. Are you still carrying her?
[08:25] <alex11> the debian unstable in ubuntu is Breezy ?
[08:25] <djp> this is my custom command for my preferred mai reader "emacs %s -q --no-site-file -l "~/.emacs-mailto" -f "foobar/mailto""... ;)
[08:25] <avokado> (firestarter:8043): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:25] <avokado> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:26] <onur> reka,  ?
[08:26] <avokado> A proper configuration for Firestarter was not found. If you are running Firestarter from the directory you built it in, run 'make install-data-local' to install a configuration, or simply 'make install' to install the whole program.
[08:26] <avokado> this is what i get
[08:26] <f_newton> reka this isnt soap opera hour... and while I can appreciate you having yer personal interests the rest of us may not
[08:27] <f_newton> uh sorry reka
[08:27] <f_newton> uno
[08:27] <f_newton> unurf
[08:27] <f_newton> argh!!
[08:27] <reka> avokado: then, going by the error message, i'd run 'make install-data-local' ... i'm not 100% certain though.
[08:27] <f_newton> u n u r
[08:27] <MyLeftNut> reka: Cheers man, you lot (The whole ubuntu support group) are amazing
[08:27] <xmen90s> ......
[08:27] <avokado> where do i write that, int terminal?
[08:28] <reka> avokado: yes
[08:28] <reka> avokado: you might possibly need to use sudo, if you are denied permission.
[08:28] <reka> actually....
[08:28] <topyli> alex11: it's more like experimental ATM i think :)
[08:28] <reka> i think that assumes you built it from source
[08:29] <reka> hence the 'from the directory you built it in'
[08:29] <alex11> how can upgrade only a package ?
[08:29] <MyLeftNut> Ahh, one last thing, I found kdocker but I'm looking for something with a GNOME flavour. I want to dock my thunderbird client in the statusbar
[08:30] <topyli> alex11: apt-get install will install the latest version
[08:30] <avokado> i am new at this, not in root terminal, but just terminal... and i doesnt have to write anything else than make install-data-local.....not cd or apt or anything else
[08:31] <AlexMBas> someone here from the pt-BR translation team?
[08:32] <f_newton> Quest-Master, so far ive only found the standard sandra processor test/display program but Im still looking
[08:32] <avokado> reka, do you speak norwegian
[08:32] <f_newton> Quest-Master, do you have another machine and a loopback cable?
[08:35] <patrick__> how is the install tool called
[08:35] <patrick__> dpkg?
[08:35] <patrick__> gptg
[08:35] <patrick__> kptg
[08:35] <patrick__> ????
[08:35] <Keegan_> I am trying to get my wireless card to work
[08:36] <Keegan_> I have attempted to follow steps as per ubuntu wiki
[08:36] <Keegan_> but when I enter sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says this action is not permitted. HELP!
[08:36] <patrick__> crap
[08:36] <patrick__> how can i install tar.gz files with ubuntu?
[08:36] <patrick__> OOo_SRC680_m122_sk_native_LinuxIntel_install_deb.tar.gz <--
[08:38] <avokado> i need to know exactly what to write in terminal. to get firestarter going, from the smallest detail,
[08:40] <patrick__> c'mon guys... whats the dump command to install tar.gz :(
[08:40] <jhaa> sudo firestarter
[08:41] <f_newton> dump command?
[08:41] <f_newton> I use tar -zxvf (whatever file name)
[08:41] <wilhelm> who kn ow how to install wine
[08:42] <adkinsj> patrick: tar -zxvf filename.tgz
[08:42] <patrick__> what does tar?
[08:42] <f_newton> 1. unscrew cap 2. insert in oral cavity, 3. invert
[08:42] <patrick__> installs it or will it unpack it?
[08:42] <adkinsj> tar unzip's it "so to speak"
[08:42] <f_newton> tar identifies the function
[08:42] <f_newton> its a tar file
[08:42] <patrick__> ubuntu is really outdated :(
[08:42] <patrick__> openoffice 1.1.3 O_o
[08:42] <f_newton> a tar ball from the ol unix tape archive file days
[08:43] <patrick__> 1.1.5.x is the newest
[08:43] <wilhelm> who know how to install wine ?? msg me prv
[08:43] <topyli> patrick__: that's what was latest when this stable distribution was released
[08:43] <f_newton> patrick__, Ooo 1.3 is stable.  I for one appreciate tjat
[08:43] <f_newton> uh that
[08:43] <patrick__> 1.1.5 is the altest stable
[08:44] <Elrohir> how do I change the fonts used by X?
[08:44] <wilhelm> who know how to install wine ?? msg me prv
[08:44] <patrick__> and 1.9.122 is the latest beta
[08:44] <patrick__> not 1.1.79
[08:44] <mink> is ubuntuforums down?
[08:44] <adkinsj> mink: yes
[08:44] <topyli> patrick__: feel free to get the latest from ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m122/Build-1/
[08:44] <mink> doh
[08:44] <rob_p> mink:  must be... I can't get to it either!
[08:44] <f_newton> patrick__, if you want bleeding edge use fedora 4
[08:44] <topyli> patrick__: pavel always has the latest builds
[08:44] <patrick__> topyli, there i got it
[08:44] <mink> anyone know if its possible to do an install if were behind an NT proxy ?
[08:44] <patrick__> but i fail to install it
[08:44] <f_newton> if you want stability in a deb environ use ubuntu
[08:44] <patrick__> becuase its a tar.gz and not a deb
[08:44] <Stormx> Hey
[08:45] <mink> because the apt-get part in the start doesn't work
[08:45] <patrick__> i have no idea how to deal with targz :(
[08:45] <wilhelm> who know how to install wine ?? msg me prv
[08:45] <mink> pat - tar -zxvf
[08:45] <topyli> patrick__: there are debs
[08:45] <patrick__> where?
[08:45] <f_newton> topy
[08:45] <topyli> patrick__: oh, they are buried in a tarball of course :)
[08:45] <Stormx> wilhelm, I can help.
[08:45] <f_newton> topyli, he still needs to run ./install script
[08:45] <mink> anyone? can we do a install with a NT proxy ?
[08:45] <topyli> f_newton: no
[08:46] <Elrohir> how do I change the default font used by X?
[08:46] <topyli> f_newton: pavel makes nice debs and rpms
[08:46] <f_newton> topyli, unless OOo has changed their process
[08:46] <patrick__> what do u mean with tarball?
[08:46] <topyli> patrick__: a gzipped tarball: .tar.gz
[08:46] <f_newton> no some tarballs only unpack to reveal installers
[08:46] <patrick__> ???
[08:46] <patrick__> slow...
[08:46] <f_newton> some tarballs unpack and install
[08:46] <patrick__> what have i to do first
[08:46] <topyli> f_newton: this reveals a bunch of debs
[08:46] <f_newton> ah ok
[08:47] <f_newton> must be a different site
[08:47] <f_newton> not the OOo site
[08:47] <patrick__> where is a tutorial for this?
[08:47] <topyli> patrick__: go to the link i gave
[08:47] <f_newton> patrick__, man tar
[08:47] <f_newton> or man tgz
[08:47] <f_newton> or tar -h
[08:47] <topyli> patrick__: get the native_LInuxIntel_install._deb.tar.gz
[08:47] <sun> how can i install breezy kernel into hoary?
[08:47] <KeeganW> f_newton: would u give link again, I didn't get it
[08:47] <Elrohir> how do I change the fonts used by X?
[08:48] <patrick__> there is no german
[08:48] <patrick__> i need de_
[08:48] <f_newton> KeeganW, what link was that>?
[08:48] <jbloudg20> hey i have a few questions... maybe someone can help me? I am trying to get my chaintek av710 to work... how would I go about that?
[08:48] <KeeganW> f_newton: the link you were discussing with patrick, about installing software from tar.gz
[08:49] <topyli> patrick__: download the nativeLInuxINstall.deb.tar.gz or such, and find a de language pack from the langpacks_deb directory
[08:49] <Elrohir> how do I change the default font used by X?
[08:49] <f_newton> I was just telling him to man tar or tgz what ever it is.... or tar -h
[08:49] <selinium> HI all, how can i play midi .mid files?
[08:49] <f_newton> tar files are so easy to unpack
[08:49] <patrick__> ok
[08:49] <f_newton> tar -zxvf (filename)
[08:49] <Elrohir> tar -zxvf <tar file name>
[08:50] <KeeganW> f_newton: after they are unpacked, is the .bin the equivalent to and .exe installer?
[08:50] <topyli> f_newton: see the site i linked to above. pavel rocks so hard i can't sleep :)
[08:50] <patrick__> ????
[08:50] <RapaportM> is this the place to come for install help?
[08:50] <patrick__> whats next
[08:50] <patrick__> i have dl a sk_native...
[08:50] <patrick__> and the german translation
[08:50] <jbloudg20> can anyone help me install my soundcard?
[08:50] <Elrohir> how do I change the default font used by X?
[08:50] <sun> how to use dpk-reconfigure to rebuild kernel?
[08:50] <patrick__> argh... x-chat's colorsetting is confusing me
[08:51] <patrick__> next thing i install will be opera
[08:51] <Elrohir> usa GAIM on IRC protocol...
[08:51] <topyli> patrick__: sk? i always get the en_US native and a fi langpack, but maybe it doesn't matter
[08:51] <KeeganW> is anyone here familiar with ndiswrapper?
[08:51] <topyli> as long as you have the langpack
[08:51] <f_newton> patrick__, settings/preferences/textbox/strip mirc colors
[08:51] <patrick__> ok
[08:52] <topyli> patrick__: now, double click those tar.gz files and extract them. you'll end up with a bunch of debs
[08:52] <f_newton> I need coffee...
[08:52] <Doonz> whats the command to see the bw through my network card?
[08:52] <KeeganW> when I enter sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, I get the error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:52] <Elrohir> how do I change the default font used by X?
[08:52] <KeeganW> wat in the world is going on here?
[08:53] <cikilin> it is posible to make hoary became a server with 50 computers conected on it?
[08:54] <topyli> cikilin: sure
[08:54] <RapaportM> can anyone troubleshoot an install error?
[08:54] <patrick__> test
[08:54] <patrick__> x-chat didtn changed
[08:54] <patrick__> neither links are highlighted nor my nick color is changed
[08:54] <patrick__> grey on greuy... i barely see my own nick
[08:54] <Elrohir> how do I change the default font used by X?
[08:55] <KeeganW> it appears that sudo is installed, but it will not let me edit any of the files that I need to
[08:55] <Elrohir> patrick__: use GAIM on IRC protocol...
[08:56] <jbloudg20> is anyone using an mx1000? how did you get all of your buttons to work?
[08:56] <jbloudg20> oh and where is xmms installed?
[08:56] <Elrohir> on terminal: whereis xmms
[08:56] <jbloudg20> thanks
[08:56] <Seveaz> or: which xmms
[08:56] <Bateau> if i want to play music off a radio (internett radio) what program do i use? (if the radio have *.pls files)
[08:57] <Seveaz> Bateau, beep-media-player or xmms
[08:57] <Bateau> xmms didnt work :/
[08:57] <RapaportM> can anyone help troubleshoot the Pivot_root error?
[08:57] <Wegg> hey. . . I'm trying to build a Raid5 on my Ubuntu box and I can't seem to find an easy way to do it.  In Mandrake there is DiskDrake which makes it happen in a few clicks. . . but I can't find any "easy" way to do it in Ubuntu. . .  can anyone help?
[08:57] <Bateau> where can i get beep-media-player?
[08:57] <Elrohir> Bateau: Applications > Audio & Video > Music Player
[08:57] <Bateau> oh
[08:57] <Seveaz> RapaportM, homegrown kernel?
[08:57] <Bateau> that didnt work either
[08:57] <RapaportM> no
[08:58] <Bateau> tried that one
[08:58] <deprave_> Bateau : bmp didn't work?
[08:58] <RapaportM> or yes, i suppose. its the Kernel on the install CD
[08:58] <Bateau> nope
[08:58] <Seveaz> Bateau, ehich radio station?
[08:58] <Seveaz> which*
[08:58] <Bateau> www.di.fm
[08:58] <Bateau> VocalTrance
[08:58] <Bateau> :P
[08:58] <Seveaz> url?
[08:58] <rob_newbie> i am having problems with beep media player it is not playing anything.  I did get the codacs as instructed by the ubuntu unofficial guide.  anyone else have the same experence and know what I should do?
[08:59] <Seveaz> rob_newbie: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[08:59] <RapaportM> Seveaz, i did an expert intall for a external USB install but received the pivot_root error
[08:59] <Seveaz> rob_newbie, and I hope you didn't use ubuntuguide that much
[08:59] <Seveaz> it sucks
[08:59] <shido> I love ubuntu... i run xp in a nice little window now (vmware) where it should be
[08:59] <Wegg> no gui tools for Raid5?
[08:59] <Seveaz> RapaportM, hmm, maybe the USB stuff did not get in the initrd....
[08:59] <{cYanide}> er does anyone have a link to help on installing gdm themes?
[09:00] <Seveaz> art.gnome.org/faq.php
[09:00] <Seveaz> ^-- {cYanide}
[09:00] <bytefoo> does anyone know the new name of kerberos?
[09:00] <bytefoo> can't seem to install krb5-user ;X
[09:00] <patrick__> now i have upacked them
[09:00] <rob_newbie> Seveaz: Thanks Ill give that a try.  As for the guide I am using it very little.  Only when it is reccommeded by someone who used it succesfully.
[09:00] <bytefoo> or perhaps a repo where it is located
[09:00] <patrick__> whats next?
[09:00] <RapaportM> seveaz, thats what i think. i had an issue at the end of my install i tried to /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda0, but it wouldnt recognize it
[09:00] <Stormx> Did you guys know that ubuntu backwards is Utnubu?????
[09:01] <Kyral> Yes
[09:01] <Seveaz> bytefoo, apt-cache search krb
[09:01] <rob_newbie> Thanks
[09:01] <Kyral> infact there is a project called that
[09:01] <bytefoo> yeah i know, it's not there though
[09:01] <bytefoo> perhaps i have to enable universe
[09:02] <Seveas> bytefoo, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/978
[09:02] <patrick__> whats the next step to install OOo2
[09:02] <D3ath> evening
[09:02] <Wegg> I guess I'm looking for Drakxtools.  . ..  does anyone know about setting up raids?
[09:02] <patrick__> do i need a script
[09:02] <Seveas> patrick__, apt-get install openoffice.org2
[09:02] <Dr_Melectaus> Does anyone know where i can get some winamp .EQF files for Beep media player ?
[09:02] <jbloudg20> i still cant find xmms... im in kde right now, and I cant get it to work. But I know that it works fine in gnome
[09:02] <deprave_> what would i query to apt-get install traceroute?
[09:02] <patrick__> no.. not the one from the sources.list, Seveas
[09:03] <Seveas> patrick__, ah
[09:03] <patrick__> i just downloadet the m122 release
[09:03] <Seveas> deprave_, mtr
[09:03] <patrick__> and unpacked it
[09:03] <Dr_Melectaus> deprave_,  go to aps>system>network tools
[09:03] <Seveas> deprave_, mtr <-- it's a packagename
[09:03] <bytefoo> yeah seveas, i didnt have all that
[09:03] <bytefoo> i had about 7 packates :X
[09:03] <Seveas> bytefoo, yeah enable universe :)
[09:03] <deprave_> seveas thanks
[09:03] <bytefoo> ;] 
[09:04] <D3ath> can someone help me pls ... i have a live cd of ubuntu 4.10 .. i can get the screen refresh rate to go down .. when i boot from the cd i go the 800x600 way but stil whn the boot screen comes on (when x-server strarts ) i just get garble
[09:04] <Bateau> hmm, no sound from the radio station. it says "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg"
[09:04] <Kyral> D3ath, well first off, get 5.04
[09:04] <D3ath> like in win when the screen reselution is to high
[09:05] <Stormx> D3ath: It hasn't properly configured your graphics card then.
[09:05] <Ju1ce> Bateau: Have the codecs?
[09:05] <D3ath> ya well i am waiting for it in the mail
[09:05] <Stormx> Bateau, what program are you using?
[09:05] <RapaportM> can anyone help me figure out my initrd.img issue regarding pivot_root and a kernel panic
[09:05] <Stormx> kernel panic is funny
[09:05] <Bateau> Ju1ce: where can i get that? and how do i install?
[09:05] <Stormx> it's only happened to me once.
[09:05] <RapaportM> kernel panic sucks
[09:05] <D3ath> Stormx: i have an nvidia ..
[09:06] <Bateau> Stormx: the one that comes with Ubuntu.. :P bmp or what ever
[09:06] <D3ath> riva tnt2
[09:06] <Stormx> Bareau: Hmm
[09:06] <erisco> how do I share a folder over my windows network with ubuntu?
[09:06] <Ju1ce> Bateau: apt-get install ffmpeg
[09:06] <patrick__> is there a way to install all debs of the folder in one step?
[09:06] <Stormx> Bateau: What is its name, a couple come with it.
[09:06] <Stormx> partick__ yes, think so. Hang on.
[09:06] <patrick__> how?
[09:07] <Stormx> dpkg -i *.deb
[09:07] <rob_newbie> Beep Media Player shows in preferences>plugins>Media no support for mp3 or streaming audio.  Any suggestions as where I can get them?
[09:07] <topyli> patrick__: dpkg -i *.deb
[09:07] <rob_p> erisco:  samba
[09:07] <Stormx> patrick__ in terminal, go to the folder and use dpkg -i *.deb
[09:07] <D3ath> Stormx:  so it is the best to wait til the new version comeas?
[09:07] <patrick__> dpkg -i /folder/ *.deb?
[09:07] <weejamer> does anyone know anything about mounting a Fat32 drive that is attached to a raid controller
[09:07] <topyli> patrick__: yes
[09:07] <Stormx> D3ath: what version are you on?
[09:07] <D3ath> 4.10
[09:08] <D3ath> that is what it sayes on the cd
[09:08] <Stormx> D3ath: Upgrade?
[09:08] <Pega> Hmm. so you can install .debs with like... one dpkg command??? It is certainly not that I would have been googling for onver a hour thro FAQs about installing .debs... :S
[09:08] <Wegg> I'm trying to figure out how to mount a raid in Ubuntu weejamer
[09:08] <Bateau> Stormx: the Language of my Linux is in Norwegian.. so i dont think the name is the same in english :)
[09:08] <D3ath> no full version
[09:08] <topyli> patrick__: except you have an extra space there: use dpkg -i /folder/*.deb
[09:08] <Stormx> Yes
[09:08] <Bateau> Stormx: so saying its name, will tell you nothing :P
[09:08] <Stormx> ;-) I almost feel helpfull
[09:09] <weejamer> what raid controller do you have?
[09:09] <Stormx> Bateau: OK then. I'm not sure, you may need a codec called mpg123
[09:09] <Bateau> ok, where and how can i get that?
[09:09] <Ju1ce> apt-get?
[09:09] <Stormx> Bateau: Go to the BMP website, it should be a plugin i'd imagine
[09:09] <selinium> HI all, how can i play midi .mid files?
[09:10] <D3ath> Stormx:?
[09:10] <Bateau> apt-get what?
[09:10] <Stormx> selinium: I think theres a plugin for xmms which does that
[09:10] <Stormx> Bateau: Let me find the site. You need MP3 support, right?
[09:10] <Bateau> yeah
[09:10] <Dr_Melectaus> Does anyone know where i can get some winamp .EQF files for Beep media player ?
[09:10] <Bateau> thanks :D
[09:10] <Ju1ce> I installed all the codecs which ubuntuguide told me to.
[09:11] <selinium> Stormx: I think i have downloaded all the xmms plugins.... But i will look again! Cheers
[09:11] <djp> selinium: you need to adjust the playback codec option in xmms if i'm not mistaken
[09:11] <Stormx> selinuim: Wait
[09:11] <Stormx> selinium: I was mistaken, MIDI support is an idea for XMMS2
[09:11] <D3ath> antother time ppl
[09:11] <D3ath> nice eve
[09:12] <D3ath> Stormx" thank for da help
[09:12] <Stormx> selinium: I'm not sure. Maybe use synaptic and in advance run a search for "mid"
[09:12] <Stormx> OK
[09:12] <Stormx> Who else needs helping?!
[09:12] <dv__> me!
[09:13] <Stormx> Seveas is gonna kick my ass for being so damn helpfull
[09:13] <dv__> i need money!
[09:13] <djp> timidity is godd for .nid supprot
[09:13] <Stormx> Money and beer for all!
[09:13] <djp> good/support... jeez i can't type today! ;)
[09:13] <steven> .
[09:13] <weejamer> anyone know about Gigabyte C
[09:13] <weejamer> GA7 n400pro raid with linux
[09:13] <f_newton> Stormx, im thet=re!
[09:14] <Stormx> f_newton: What?
[09:14] <f_newton> im there!
[09:14] <dv__> Stormx, you forgot the hot chicks...
[09:14] <Stormx> Oh ye
[09:14] <nocloud> i've got a question...is it possible to have a dual boot system with ubuntu and windows?
[09:14] <Stormx> nocloud: Yes
[09:14] <f_newton> of course it is...
[09:14] <dv__> uh yeah
[09:14] <dv__> thanx
[09:14] <dv__> :] 
[09:14] <Ju1ce> I have a dualboot like that.
[09:15] <Stormx> nocloud: Its very easy, I can help you, if you can't do it.
[09:15] <nocloud> how do you set up the dual boot?
[09:15] <Stormx> I'm currently quadruple booting ;-)
[09:15] <steven> wow, i just started using ubuntu... its awsome
[09:15] <Stormx> nocloud: run the ubuntu installer
[09:15] <f_newton> personally I cant find a reason for it, but...
[09:15] <Stormx> Hang on...
[09:15] <steven> type expert at install
[09:15] <dv__> f_newton: games
[09:15] <dv__> and no, cedega is not enough.
[09:16] <f_newton> ah well that must be why... I dont play game
[09:16] <f_newton> s
[09:16] <Badcel> hi can somenone tell me, what I have to do, to download a specific directory (with subdirectorys) from a server with wget?
[09:16] <Stormx> nocloud: private message me.
[09:16] <dv__> i mostly use windows for cross-platform development and games
[09:16] <weejamer> can anyone help with raid?
[09:16] <Ju1ce> windows for cross-platform development o_O
[09:16] <mark`> hello i had a question regarding gtk+ in ubuntu
[09:16] <dv__> uh...
[09:16] <f_newton> wget (name)\
[09:17] <mark`> i can't find the package with apt-cache search
[09:17] <dv__> well, for developing the win32 platform stuff :)
[09:17] <djp> i use the xbox, gamecube, dreamcast, n64 and saturn for games! ;)
[09:17] <dv__> djp, havent seen half-life 2 for these.
[09:17] <dv__> or deus ex.
[09:17] <dv__> or ......
[09:17] <dv__> :)
[09:17] <weejamer> i use a windows pc for games
[09:17] <f_newton> If i need a winapp I use cxoffice
[09:18] <dv__> photoshop works with crossover, yeah
[09:18] <topyli> f_newton: if i need a windows app i use windows :)
[09:18] <weejamer> or vmware?
[09:18] <patrick__> dv__, as fast as in windows or osx?
[09:18] <patrick__> that sounds nice
[09:18] <f_newton> sorry to hear that topyli
[09:18] <f_newton> lol
[09:18] <djp> dv__: well i can forgo those for a good old blast at metroid prime and zelda! ;)
[09:18] <Ju1ce> i use linux for cross-platform development - 'cause I use wxwidgets and not winapi
[09:18] <dv__> dont know, parabolize
[09:18] <dv__> patrick__,
[09:18] <dv__> never used it :)
[09:18] <djp> dv__: though in all fairness, those games do look the biz
[09:18] <patrick__> gimp is to weak...
[09:18] <patrick__> :(
[09:19] <eruin> what's the language select command thats supposed to be in system->administration in breezy now?
[09:19] <dv__> djp, heh
[09:19] <dv__> anyway, gotta go
[09:19] <weejamer> does anyone can deal ith raid
[09:19] <dv__> bye
[09:19] <f_newton> patrick__, you are obviously uneducated on the subject
[09:19] <f_newton> no offense
[09:19] <djp> dv__: trouble is they do need a massive investment to get the full glory... my old pc would never do them justice
[09:19] <djp> :(
[09:20] <topyli> f_newton: hide a windows box under the desk or in the nearby closet and VNC into it. it's the ultimate windows emulator :)
[09:20] <f_newton> I have a windows box hidden in the dumpster out back, but ive not needed to vnc into it yet
[09:21] <bytefoo> how does one tell the package version via the apt-cache command
[09:21] <holycow> Ju1ce i use linux for cross-platform development - 'cause I use wxwidgets and not winapi  <-- that should save you a lot of effort indeed
[09:21] <topyli> f_newton: i also got rid of it (gave it to the lady). i realized it's been too long since i needed it. i only miss worms armageddon :)
[09:22] <juancarlosz_>  #ubuntu-es
[09:22] <f_newton> dont play games dont need games... my kids on the other hand...
[09:22] <ripkun> is there some command to deleate folders from the usr dir? I can't ubuntu isn't giving me the option to toss them to the bin
[09:22] <AlexMBas> someone here from the pt-BR translation team?
[09:22] <hyphenated> ripkun: why do you feel the need to mess with stuff in there?
[09:22] <f_newton> Badcel, try man wget then
[09:23] <ripkun> I was instaling mplayer
[09:23] <ripkun> and I made a mess
[09:23] <ripkun> =P
[09:23] <bytefoo> ehhh >_<
[09:24] <f_newton> Badcel, you can also google wget for more information
[09:24] <f_newton> but its pretty straight forward
[09:24] <Stormx> HELLO!
[09:24] <Stormx> I am back
[09:24] <nJess> wget http://f_newton.s.mother
[09:24] <Stormx> who need's help ;-)
[09:24] <nJess> :P
[09:24] <Stormx> rofl.
[09:24] <equex> can anyone tell me why my keyboard is skipping keys and locking up and the scroll lock key is flashing ?
[09:24] <f_newton> lol yeah go ahead dig her up...
[09:25] <hyphenated> ripkun: from source?
[09:25] <f_newton> you'll probably get the ol man by mistake though
[09:25] <tbasten> i am having troubles mounting a cd5 of the halflife 2 serious. it comes up wiht nothing beeing on it when there is. when i mount it i get this message "mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[09:25] <rapha> Is there any C-based (unlike Azureus, which uses Java) BitTorrent server, or even better, is there some download mechanism that checksums WHILE downloading?
[09:26] <ripkun> it's usr/local/share
[09:26] <nJess> f_newton, i feel shame :(
[09:26] <bytefoo> are the ubuntu forums down
[09:26] <f_newton> yes you should actually
[09:26] <f_newton> but hey its ok
[09:26] <Ju1ce> bytefoo: I noticed the same
[09:26] <bytefoo> trying to figure out how to install just this one package from breezy :-/
[09:27] <bytefoo> since it's needed for authentication in a win2k3 domain :X
[09:27] <nocloud> does anybody know if ubuntu can support the intel 915 chipset?
[09:27] <topyli> does someone know an mplayer skin to fit nicely into my desktop? screenshot: http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg
[09:28] <topyli> mplayer is nice, but the gui is quite horrible btw
[09:28] <tbasten> how do i forcefully unmount a cd properly
[09:28] <deprave_> umount /media/cdrom
[09:29] <Madeye> what do they mean when they say "it works out of the box" ?
[09:29] <bytefoo> how do i install winbind 3.0.14a from breezy, and those dependencies, but nothing else from breezy
[09:30] <w4yne1337> what can i do if my alt-gr key is a second alt key
[09:30] <tbasten> deprave_, it wont work because its disk5 of a installation which means i need to forcfully unmount it
[09:30] <ripkun> so any way to get rid of folders in the usr dir?
[09:30] <nightswim> rm
[09:30] <asfra> would a printer driver that is supported by debinan work in ubuntu? (i'm aware of that this might be a stupid question :)
[09:30] <BSG85> first time ubuntu installer need help loggin in as root, any help will be much appreciated
[09:31] <BSG85> rm -rf <dirname> ripkun
[09:31] <Stormx> Hey I'm back
[09:31] <Stormx> where is nocloud?
[09:31] <f_newton> BSG85, use sudo   root is disabled by default
[09:31] <djp> BSG85: login as the user you created during install and then use the sudo command at bash prompt when needing root privileges
[09:31] <f_newton> I had to learn that
[09:31] <f_newton> been reading up on it too
[09:31] <ripkun> many thanks BSG =)
[09:32] <tbasten> when i mount a cd it says there is no contents but when i check on another machine its there
[09:32] <f_newton> tbasten, more particulars... both linux boxes?
[09:32] <BSG85> thanx guys, I figured so much :) btw, this ist he bestest implementation of Gnome I have seen so far.  WTG :)
[09:32] <srodal> can you recommend a graphical FTP program for ubuntu?
[09:32] <bytefoo> so ahh...no one has any info on winbind or joining an AD domain with ubuntu? :X
[09:32] <asfra> would a printer driver that is supported by debian work in ubuntu? (i'm aware of that this might be a stupid question :)
[09:32] <Stormx> tbasten: Have you tried with more than 1 CD?
[09:33] <f_newton> tbasten, what did you use to burn the cd?
[09:33] <Stormx> asfra: does your printer not work otherwise?
[09:33] <tbasten> nah, 1 windows the one i am trying to get working is linux. When i reboot my machine it works. Its just the its cd5 in hl5
[09:33] <ablyss> is there a way to pipe commands using apt-get? I.e., apt-get update | install ... or do i just do it in two separate commands i.e., atp-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[09:33] <f_newton> asfra, most likelyu
[09:33] <tbasten> i got it working once but i dont know what i did
[09:33] <crimsun> ablyss: 2 separate.
[09:33] <ablyss> ty crimsun
[09:34] <f_newton> tbasten, did you use the windows stock burner?
[09:34] <f_newton> what program did you use?
[09:34] <tbasten> cough :P its the original
[09:34] <equex> LOOL
[09:34] <asfra> Stormx: I currently have a driver for it, but hewlett packard make drivers that work with debian and several other distros, just wondering if I could use them. A have an old Hp deskjet 694C
[09:34] <equex> my desktop is scrolling off screen ahah
[09:35] <f_newton> this is a commercially burned disk?
[09:35] <equex> bye bye
[09:35] <tbasten> yes
[09:35] <tbasten> the cd works fine
[09:35] <asfra> Stormx: I meant that I DONT have a driver now
[09:35] <equex> i think perhaps kde has a bug
[09:35] <f_newton> kde is a collection of bugs in my opinion.... dont take that seriously
[09:35] <BSG85> LOL f-newton :)
[09:36] <Dr_Melectaus> bollocks
[09:36] <equex> hey how do i kill a panel from cmd line
[09:36] <Dr_Melectaus> someone say something, i think ice dc
[09:36] <Dr_Melectaus> HAH
[09:36] <Dr_Melectaus> yes
[09:36] <Dr_Melectaus> havent etc
[09:36] <Dr_Melectaus> cheers equex
[09:36] <tbasten> ok when i eject i get "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument" but it ejects
[09:36] <w4yne1337> help my alt-gr key is a second alt key
[09:36] <equex> i docked two panels on top of each otherrrrr and every tihng disapeard
[09:36] <w4yne1337> i cant type [] {}
[09:37] <DaSkreech> slapd Is the same as openLDAP?
[09:37] <equex> and now my desktop is scrolling off screen while i expand xchats widow
[09:37] <f_newton> thats ok I cant read your l33tsp33k nick either
[09:38] <wayneunso> better?
[09:38] <tbasten> any ideas?
[09:38] <f_newton> for me yes but who knows bout anyone else
[09:38] <DaSkreech> If I apt-get slapd I should get an openLDAP config?
[09:38] <BSG85> tbasten if you man eject you will see it gives you option to eject various devices
[09:38] <f_newton> wayne did you pick the proper keyboard entry?
[09:38] <Pega> How do I find out where a game is installed without checking every file in system one by one?
[09:39] <tbasten> man BSG85 i know how to eject
[09:39] <Dr_Melectaus> could someone tell me how to install a .rpm file?
[09:39] <erisco> help! how do I set a user name and password for samba?
[09:39] <f_newton> step one... install rpm based distro
[09:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_Melectaus: try alien
[09:39] <erisco> or how can i disable the user name and password?
[09:39] <hyphenated> Dr_Melectaus: install redhat or fedora, then do rpm -i thatfile.rpm ;-)
[09:39] <f_newton> DaSkreech, is right  though
[09:40] <BSG85> smbpasswd erisco
[09:40] <wayneunso> f_newton i have some problem with gnome-settings-daemon
[09:40] <hyphenated> erisco: use 'share' instead of 'user' access.
[09:40] <f_newton> what problems?
[09:40] <wayneunso> it says an error when gnome is starting
[09:40] <Stormx> What is the error?
[09:40] <f_newton> what is the error?
[09:41] <wayneunso> reboot^^
[09:41] <tbasten> usually when i put a cd in it auto mounts, its not doing it
[09:41] <f_newton> wow..
[09:42] <f_newton> but it loads?
[09:42] <tbasten> i have to manually mount it
[09:42] <wayneunso> i have this problem only when i start xorg
[09:42] <Dr_Melectaus> DaSkreech, whats the syntax for alien ?
[09:42] <f_newton> tbasten that cd is probably a feeder cd for the game and is accessed as is needed therefore has no boot up or access signature header
[09:43] <tbasten> f_newton, i got it working about 1 hour ago
[09:43] <f_newton> wayne xorg or gnome?
[09:43] <tbasten> but i forgot
[09:43] <wayneunso> xorg
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Dr_Melectaus: man alien normally helps
[09:43] <f_newton> tbasten, I have no idea normally
[09:43] <wayneunso> kde has the same problem
[09:43] <DaSkreech> First few lines are good
[09:43] <f_newton> Dr_Melectaus, I used alien -h
[09:43] <wayneunso> There was an error starting GNOME settings Daemon
[09:44] <bytefoo> can anyone tell me how to install a package from breezy (including its dependancies) but not the entire breezy version?!
[09:44] <f_newton> Dr_Melectaus, I used alien and it worked well for me
[09:44] <wayneunso> Some things,such as themes,souns, or background settings may not work correctly
[09:44] <wayneunso> The Settings Daemon restarted too many times
[09:44] <topyli> Dr_Melectaus: are you sure you have to use an rpm package? alien can produce some weird debs from them
[09:44] <wayneunso> and so on
[09:44] <Dr_Melectaus> its rpm, so would it be sudo alien --to-deb (file)
[09:44] <Dr_Melectaus> its winamp3 for linux
[09:44] <f_newton> wayneunso, there is definitely an x problem there
[09:45] <DaSkreech> Yup
[09:45] <f_newton> is your xconf set right?
[09:45] <crimsun> bytefoo: you don't want to do that, because packages built on/for Breezy have dependency skew vs. on/for Hoary.
[09:45] <wayneunso> i think so f_newton
[09:45] <wayneunso> Errorr activatin XKB configuration.
[09:45] <wayneunso> *Error
[09:45] <bytefoo> crimsun, but i need to do it in order to authenticate users onto this box in a windows 2003 domain
[09:46] <topyli> Dr_Melectaus: and that would be worth... what? ;-)
[09:46] <bytefoo> and winbind 3.0.14a is only available on breezy
[09:46] <f_newton> wayneunso, i hate to tell you this but I have to go to work... I hope someone smarter, better educated, and more experienced then I can help you
[09:46] <Chaotic_Reality> can someone take a look at this and possibly tell me if you see anything as to why my laptop shuts down within an hour of inactivity inside of ubuntu?  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/980
[09:46] <tbasten> um, when i do mount /cdrom the title says its cd1 but when i do sudo mount i the the proper title
[09:46] <crimsun> bytefoo: then grab the orig.tar.gz, the dsc, and the diff, and build it on a Hoary box.
[09:46] <crimsun> bytefoo: alternately, look for it in Hoary backports.
[09:47] <bytefoo> ooohh the backports
[09:47] <Stormx> Chaotic_reality: It probably goes into a kind of hibernation mode, which you're laptop can't handle. I'm gonna have a look into disabling it, hang on.
[09:47] <Chaotic_Reality> Stormx: ok. thank you
[09:47] <burnboyy> my screen is a bit off center, does anyone know how to fix that?
[09:47] <f_newton> hit it with a hammer?
[09:47] <burnboyy> LOL
[09:47] <bytefoo> yes excellent it is there :D
[09:47] <burnboyy> no i already maxed out the trim on my monitor
[09:48] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality, go to System > Prefences > Screensaver
[09:48] <f_newton> burnboyy if youve maxed out the trim its more then a little off
[09:48] <burnboyy> oh ya it was WAY off now its just a bit off
[09:48] <tbasten> with the other 4 cds of the installation i used "umount /cdrom -l"
[09:48] <f_newton> have you dropped this thing recently?
[09:48] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality: Press the advanced tab
[09:48] <burnboyy> no it is dead center for my windows computer
[09:48] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality: Then disable power management
[09:48] <burnboyy> for some reason when i installed ubuntu it was way to the side
[09:48] <f_newton> heck I gotta git to work... cant stop to chat ... gonna be late!
[09:49] <six2one> you have an lcd?
[09:49] <Dr_Melectaus> Shit, someone show me the syntax for converting a .RPM to .DEB, i tried "sudo alien -d (file)
[09:49] <f_newton> burnboy check your video configurationfile
[09:49] <Dr_Melectaus> But that just unzips it to desktop
[09:49] <f_newton> gotta run
[09:49] <Chaotic_Reality> i'm pretty sure i did that already but i'll check again.  are you going to be around for a bit Stormx?  i'm going to boot back into ubuntu to check on that
[09:49] <burnboyy> ya it is an LCD
[09:49] <bytefoo> thanks crimsun
[09:49] <six2one> auto adjust it
[09:49] <BSG85> mine was too with my lcd .. you should be able to adjust your xorg.conf
[09:49] <Dr_Melectaus> ohh that worked
[09:49] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality: I sure am. You should just restart X for the changes to take effect. Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[09:49] <burnboyy> ok disabled power managment
[09:50] <Chaotic_Reality> Stormx: ok i'll try that. i really hope this works. brb
[09:50] <BSG85> if you really want to be lazy, just rem out your vert and horizontal syncs in xorg.conf
[09:51] <Stormx> heh.
[09:51] <Stormx> I'm gonna keep a list of those oh-so-handy commands
[09:51] <BSG85> lol
[09:52] <burnboyy> still of center a bit
[09:52] <KeeganW> I cannot get ndiswrapper to work, can anyone help me?
[09:52] <burnboyy> i've only been using linux like a few hours now
[09:52] <burnboyy> i'm sure there is some easy way to fix this
[09:52] <BSG85> you are doing great :)
[09:52] <burnboyy> well the GUI interface is very easy
[09:52] <Stormx> burnboyy: What is the problem?
[09:53] <Dr_Melectaus> If i have a .DEB package on my desktop, whats the command to install it?
[09:53] <burnboyy> my visible desktop is off center, and i have maxed o;ut the trim on my monitor
[09:53] <kungkang> Dr_Fate: dpkg -i
[09:53] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: Hang on....
[09:53] <burnboyy> so my little trashcan and some other stuff is off the screeen
[09:53] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus yeh its dpkg -i <package name>
[09:53] <nocloud> does anybody know about the enterprise edition of ubuntu?  i saw mention of it on the ubuntu site...
[09:53] <KeeganW> when I type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, it says that the command is not allowed
[09:53] <Dr_Fate> kungkang, wrong Doctor
[09:54] <DaSkreech> nocloud: It's one edition
[09:54] <DaSkreech> nocloud: Desktop and enterprise are the same
[09:54] <kungkang> Dr_Fate: ops, sorry!
[09:54] <tbasten> someone please help me
[09:54] <nocloud> ahh, thanks for the clarification
[09:54] <tbasten> lol
[09:54] <Stormx> tbasten: what is the problem?
[09:55] <tbasten> mounting issues
[09:55] <topyli> nocloud: the ubuntu site specifically says there will never be an "enterprise" ubuntu :)
[09:55] <Dr_Melectaus> Stormx, cheers mate
[09:55] <Chaotic_Reality> Stormx, yeah, the power management enabled box is unchecked so it's already disabled. :/ any other ideas maybe?
[09:55] <Stormx> heh
[09:55] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality: I have no idea.
[09:55] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: No problem
[09:55] <DaSkreech> tbasten: Have you fallen and can't get mount?
[09:55] <Kyral> hmm
[09:55] <BSG85> LOL
[09:55] <Stormx> rofl!!!!!
[09:55] <Stormx> xD
[09:56] <Kyral> a mv * .. would move everything in a dir into the one above it, right?
[09:56] <topyli> please don't mount your issues in public
[09:56] <burnboyy> my monitor is close to center, it is usable but i don't like it
[09:56] <Kyral> MOUNT ME BABY!! :P
[09:56] <burnboyy> hmmm wonder if screen shot would show how much image was off...
[09:56] <topyli> no
[09:56] <Seveas> Kyral, no
[09:57] <Stormx> burnboyy: LED issues?
[09:57] <Seveas> only the files that don't start with a . are moved
[09:57] <Kyral> no the command wouldn't do that?
[09:57] <burnboyy> ya
[09:57] <tbasten> DaSkreech, ok, i can mount the cdrom but i saying that nothing is on it when there is. When i reboot my machine it works but since it is installation cd 5 for halflife 5 i have to manually unmount 4 cds by typing "umount /cdrom -l"
[09:57] <Kyral> oh
[09:57] <Kyral> how would I do it so I move everything up a dir?
[09:57] <burnboyy> well this monitor is hooked to two machines, my windows and this one in just turned in to linux
[09:57] <Stormx> burnboyy: Have a look in the ubuntu wiki
[09:57] <bytefoo> how do i choose a package that is in the backports over another repository
[09:57] <Seveas> Kyral, mv * .* ..
[09:57] <burnboyy> this is the only one giving me a problem
[09:57] <burnboyy> wiki
[09:58] <MikeW> Hmm, I'm still getting those 'Error 18's with the grub loader
[09:58] <burnboyy> is that an application or admin file
[09:58] <MikeW> I found a debian sarge dvd and I installed that, and I'm getting the exact same error
[09:58] <Stormx> MikeW: The partition table may be corrupt.
[09:58] <MikeW> Is there some way to get the cd bootloader to boot the linux partition?
[09:58] <Kyral> Seveas, can you explain how that works? Because its frickin' cool!
[09:59] <Stormx> MikeW: Run a live CD (knoppix, ubuntu) and use cfdisk
[09:59] <Stormx> MikeW: Then press "w" to re-write the partitions
[09:59] <MikeW> Stormx: I picked the defaults, and reinstalled several times
[09:59] <voyage34> can someone help me with a quick apt-get qusetion?
[09:59] <MikeW> Stormx: where the defaults were automatically partition the entire hdd
[10:00] <Stormx> MikeW: I don't know. Have you googled it/
[10:00] <BSG85> burnboy .. if you vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look at your resolution setting for your monitor make sure your monitor can handle the resolution it is set to.  Or if there is sync, take those lines out for lcd monitors
[10:00] <MikeW> Stormx: yes, and it points me back to the ubuntu forums where the quesiton is unanswered
[10:00] <bytefoo> crimsun, how does one choose a package in the backports over the lower version package in the standard repositories
[10:00] <MikeW> Stormx: I get the feeling its a grub problem :/
[10:00] <burnboyy> xorg.conf
[10:00] <burnboyy> i'll try to find it
[10:00] <Stormx> MikeW: GRUB does its best.
[10:01] <Stormx> MikeW: So you can't access any OS's on that system?
[10:01] <patrick__> whats the difference between shared woody and shared sarge?
[10:01] <MikeW> Stormx: linux would be the only os
[10:01] <edie> can anybody help me with my ubuntu?
[10:01] <lonetree> hi hi pple
[10:01] <tlord_> Hmm. I was just connected / disconnected / reconnected, so in case that didn't get into the channel, I'm going to repeat it ...
[10:01] <BSG85> just ask edie :)
[10:01] <Stormx> MikeW: So surely you wouldn't need a boot loader?
[10:01] <tlord_> Ack pfffhht!! Hi, there. I hosed my system (partially), not sure how, but now it won't let me do anything that requires root / superuser, and the system tells me at login eacch time that it cannot look up the internet address of my machine, and that adding this address to /etc/hosts might fix the problem. This is an iBook running hoary. So now I have the Live CD in the drive, hoping that...
[10:01] <topyli> patrick__: no sens you make
[10:01] <tlord_> ...would let me into the live system again (rather than the installed Hoary), but ... it's not starting up from the CD! Ack, again. Why not? :) I'm holding down the "D" key at startup, which I thought was the right key for this. Any clues?
[10:02] <patrick__> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/8.10-Preview-2/1275-20050728-P2BT/intel-linux/en/
[10:02] <edie> i wannaask as PM
[10:02] <lonetree> just wanna check if anyone has set up any network that involves ubuntu and some windows system?
[10:02] <voyage34> i have a package that evrytime I apt-get something, it tries to donwload and install but I dont what this package and am wondering how to remove it from the queue.. anyone know how to do this? thanks
[10:02] <nlDefiant[serv] > hiya all
[10:02] <patrick__> topyli, which one should i use?
[10:02] <mpmc> :D
[10:02] <topyli> patrick__: whatever you do, get the statically linked, not dynamically linked opera. and sarge is more current
[10:03] <patrick__> topl... shared sarge or static?
[10:03] <weejamer> can anyone tell me how to mount a raid drive
[10:03] <topyli> patrick__: get static, it will surely work
[10:03] <BSG85> what is your raid devicename?
[10:04] <edie> i wannaask as PM
[10:04] <topyli> siikrits
[10:04] <patrick__> ok
[10:04] <lw> trying to VNC to my OS X box..
[10:04] <weejamer>  IT/ITE 8212 dual channel ata raid BSG85
[10:04] <patrick__> whats the difference between the sahred and the static?
[10:04] <lw>   True colour: max red 7 green 7 blue 3, shift red 0 green 3 blue 6
[10:05] <lw> ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream
[10:05] <mpmc> www.cheesynuts.com
[10:05] <mpmc> lol
[10:05] <lw> getting that error
[10:05] <patrick__> does shared use libs that are already in the system?
[10:05] <edie> can anybody help me with my ubuntu?
[10:05] <patrick__> edie, simply ask :)
[10:05] <burnboyy> hmmm there is no search feature to find xorg.
[10:05] <edie> i wanna ask as PM
[10:05] <lonetree> just wanna check if anyone has set up any network that involves ubuntu and some windows system?
[10:05] <crimsun> bytefoo: if it's versioned higher, it's chosen automatically unless you have apt pinning.
[10:05] <mpmc> edie: I'll try to help
[10:05] <patrick__> edie, i am a noob
[10:05] <topyli> patrick__: shared uses the libraries supposedly already on your system (in windows, .DLLs). static comes with all libraries in the package
[10:06] <weejamer> can i PM you BSG85
[10:06] <kami> hi
[10:06] <JonnyRo> i'm trying to compile a package that is complaining about "undefined reference to NTOHL"
[10:06] <JonnyRo> is there a -dev package in ubuntu I can install to resolve this?
[10:06] <bytefoo> crimsun, nm, the wiki had the wrong link :|
[10:06] <BSG85> vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <voyage34> anyone?
[10:06] <BSG85> and yes weejamer
[10:06] <voyage34> i have a package that evrytime I apt-get something, it tries to donwload and install but I dont what this package and am wondering how to remove it from the queue.. anyone know how to do this? thanks
[10:06] <burnboyy> i don't have a vi/ dir
[10:06] <tlord_> holding down "d" at book on my iBook (running Hoary) does not seem to force it to boot from the internal optical drive. Any ideas why that might be?
[10:06] <Stormx> voyage34: Run synaptic.
[10:07] <lonetree> just wanna check if anyone has set up any network that involves ubuntu and some windows system?
[10:07] <burnboyy> hmmm i'll seach for tutorial
[10:07] <BSG85> yup I have lonetree
[10:07] <topyli> patrick__: the problem with shared libraries is you may not have them (since the package is not for ubuntu specifically), and might end up in "DLL hell" :)
[10:07] <Stormx> lonetree: No, but I'd imagine they could see eachother, as both systems get internet on my box.
[10:07] <Dr_Melectaus> Whats a good site for nix themes?
[10:07] <KeeganW> will driver loader work on ubuntu? Can I use this instead of ndiswrapper?
[10:08] <kami> this is my first time i use linux, and i want to modify GRUB for my windows. how i can do that?
[10:08] <Stormx> kami: GRUB should automaticly detect windows
[10:08] <lonetree> BSG85 , do you have problem with timestamp on your network?
[10:08] <lonetree> are you using samba?
[10:08] <Dr_Melectaus> Does anyone know a good site for Gnome themes?
[10:08] <tbasten> um, when i mount a cd it thinks its a cd that i just took out
[10:09] <topyli> Dr_Melectaus: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org
[10:09] <Stormx> tbasten: You need to umount it
[10:09] <keith_> hey, before i attempt it- is it easy to switch GUIs with ubuntu? i'm thinking of installing fluxbox.
[10:09] <voyage34> Stormx: thanks.. so synaptic syncs alongside apt-get?
[10:09] <Dr_Melectaus> cheers topyli
[10:09] <tbasten> its been unmounted
[10:09] <kami> Stormx, my pc now only boots ubuntu, there's no option for change
[10:09] <Stormx> voyage34: Think so. They use the same queue methinks
[10:10] <Stormx> kami: Install windows. I'm gonna go have a look for the GRUB settings, i've changed it before.
[10:10] <voyage34> Stormx: thanks.. trying it now
[10:10] <BSG85> you are absolutely right Stormx :)  .. me think :)
[10:10] <lonetree> BSG85 ? you there?
[10:10] <BSG85> yup I am here lonetree :)
[10:10] <Stormx> BSG85: I've only been using ubuntu for about 10 hours.
[10:10] <kami> Stormx, i have windows in a partition already
[10:10] <Stormx> BSG85: And i've helped about 15 people
[10:10] <mark`> hi i've been trying to install gkrellm in ubuntu but i keep getting errors, can somebody help me?
[10:11] <Stormx> kami: OK, hang on then
[10:11] <BSG85> LOL ditto Stormx :)
[10:11] <linlin> How can i convert a .bin to a .iso for mounting/burning? :)
[10:11] <BSG85> been using linux since slackware had a version # but .. first day on ubuntu .. and absolutely LOVE it :)
[10:11] <tbasten> OK, i have unmounted the 5th cd for halflife2 and put farcry and mounted it and its saying its hl2 still
[10:11] <mark`> anybody?
[10:11] <Stormx> kami: Go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:11] <burnboyy> only thing i can change in xorg is the refresh rates
[10:12] <Stormx> mark` - what errors?
[10:12] <kami> Stormx ok, just a sec...
[10:12] <mark`> says im missing gtk+
[10:12] <MAPD> hey
[10:12] <tlord_> keith_: it's easy :)
[10:13] <keith_> good to hear.
[10:13] <keith_> im gonna be doing that tonight hten
[10:13] <Stormx> mark` what program are you using to install it? Try synaptic
[10:13] <keith_> any suggestions on which to run?
[10:13] <mark`> mm
[10:13] <Stormx> hey MAPD
[10:13] <mark`> ill give 'synaptic' a try
[10:13] <keith_> im leaning towards fluxbox but open for suggestions
[10:13] <Stormx> keith_ - Fluxbox has bad GNOME support, are you on kubuntu?
[10:13] <BSG85> you got it burnboyy.. rem out the refresh rates.. then save the file and then do the 3 finger salute .. err.. ctrl alt and backspace
[10:14] <Stormx> mark` - Applications > System Tools > Add/Remove programs. Press "Advanced"
[10:14] <mark`> Stormx, originally i was doing it by hand since apt-get install gkrellm wasn't found
[10:14] <ekimus> hi, i feel the need of trying a new distro. now i was wondering since (k)unbuntu work on the large DEs if there is a way to just have let's say a windowmaker environment without even installing the qt/gtk/kde/gnome stuff initially
[10:14] <burnboyy> so set the refresh rates to 0?
[10:14] <kami> Stormx: got it
[10:14] <BSG85> no .. just # out the refresh rates all together
[10:14] <burnboyy> oh alright
[10:15] <burnboyy> just the # symbol in luie of numbers
[10:15] <tbasten> Thats for the help nerds. next time get a girlfriend
[10:15] <burnboyy> i'll probably blow its mine
[10:15] <burnboyy> errr mind
[10:15] <burnboyy> hehe
[10:16] <tlord> keith_: it's easy :)
[10:16] <tlord> Once you install it, the new GUI will be one of the choices you can reach from the Session link at bootup.
[10:16] <keith_> realllllllly
[10:16] <keith_> is there an apt-get for fluxboxand such?
[10:16] <tlord> That's what I found, anyhow.
[10:16] <lw> keith_: ys
[10:16] <lw> yes*
[10:16] <tlord> I have gnome, kde, blackbox, fluxbox ...
[10:16] <lw> keith_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:16] <tlord> Anything I can do, is by definition easy :)
[10:16] <BSG85> lol .. no # as the begining of the line with refresh rates
[10:16] <keith_> whic do you suggest
[10:16] <keith_> and fluxbox returns couldn't find package fluxbox
[10:16] <MAPD> gtg
[10:16] <MAPD> bye
[10:16] <lw> keith_: i suggest XFCE4
[10:17] <keith_> xfce4? ill look at it... but fluxbox returned no package
[10:17] <lw> yes, xfce4 is my fav
[10:17] <fredforfaen> xfce4 rocks
[10:17] <burnboyy> hmmmm
[10:17] <burnboyy> why can't i just set them to 0?
[10:17] <lw> keith_: you need the repositories
[10:17] <lw> !repos
[10:17] <keith_> repositories?
[10:17] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:17] <BSG85> 0 is a number .. null is different from 0
[10:17] <lw> keith_: goto that URL
[10:17] <burnboyy> ok
[10:18] <tlord> keith_: frankly, I just like to switch around among them. the menu config for flubox and blackbox in Ubuntu is lacking IMO compared to that I've seen with other distros, and I am unqualified to play with the menu system.
[10:18] <BSG85> if null .. scan.. if 0 .. value specified
[10:18] <burnboyy> so null it shall be
[10:18] <tlord> For that reason, I also like GNOME with Ubuntu; it's built well around it.
[10:18] <tlord> KDE works great, too.
[10:18] <keith_> ooook
[10:18] <synd-> KDE is gross.
[10:18] <keith_> imma try ths xfce4 you guys suggested
[10:18] <keith_> never heard of it
[10:18] <Dr_Melectaus> Where is the XMMS skins foldeR?
[10:18] <tlord> Yes, that's also a nice one :)
[10:18] <burnboyy> it says Option "DPMS"
[10:18] <keith_> so now what do i do to add the repos?
[10:18] <burnboyy> what is that about?
[10:18] <BSG85> this is the best gnome setup I have seen out of the box :)
[10:18] <synd-> !repos
[10:18] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:18] <bedi> Dr_Melectaus: /home/user/.xmms/Skins
[10:19] <synd-> go there keith_
[10:19] <synd-> what ubotu said
[10:19] <tlord> keith_: to me, xfce4 is not very visually attractive, but it's well-made otherwise and quite fast / lightweight.
[10:19] <BSG85> Display Power Management Signalling
[10:19] <burnboyy> ok
[10:19] <Chaotic_Reality> i just installed xmms via apt-get but when i open it up and then find an mp3 to play, then hit the play button it freezes up. :/
[10:19] <burnboyy> i'll leave that alone
[10:19] <burnboyy> hehe
[10:19] <tlord> keith_: And there's no accounting for taste :)
[10:19] <synd-> Chaotic_Reality: you need to fix the output plugin
[10:19] <burnboyy> hey if i'm not back in a minute its because i put the # in the wrong spot :P
[10:19] <burnboyy> hehe
[10:19] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality - I HAD THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM
[10:19] <omeg> Hmm
[10:19] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality, and guess what
[10:20] <synd-> Chaotic_Reality: in xmms's preferences
[10:20] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality, it was damn easy to fix.
[10:20] <topyli> BSG85: yes it is. also, ubuntu releases a new "preview" version of the distro on the same day that a new gnome version comes out :)
[10:20] <erisco> how can I get adobe photoshop 6.0 running on ubuntu?
[10:20] <erisco> it is a windows version
[10:20] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality, preferences > output plugin. Select eSound
[10:20] <synd-> Chaotic_Reality: you set the output plugin to what your system is using.
[10:20] <Stormx> erisco: You need wine.
[10:20] <burnboyy> hmmm it wont let me edit it, perhaps because it is running
[10:20] <synd-> Stormx: if he is using ALSA, then he needs to choose that and not eSound
[10:20] <omeg> I'm thinking it might be useful if there's an option to limit the screensaver in CPU power. Like, "only use 20% CPU power". When using a random screensaver, sometimes one is taken that uses too much processing power.
[10:20] <omeg> And that causes my laptop to start making a lot of nouse.
[10:20] <srodal> hmm, I set opera to open files with gnome-open exec, but when I try nothing happens, does anyone know why?
[10:21] <omeg> *noise
[10:21] <jatos1> hi
[10:21] <omeg> erisco: sorry, but you're not going to get Photoshop to run on Ubuntu.
[10:21] <Stormx> synd-, I had the same problem, and on a fresh install, eSound is not selected by default
[10:21] <topyli> erisco: your best bet is Crossover Office which is a commercial windows api emulator that costs money
[10:21] <Stormx> omeg: Shutup!
[10:21] <Stormx> omeg: Wrong bitch!
[10:21] <topyli> erisco: is something wrong with the gimp?
[10:21] <AndieB> Hi all... the Ubuntu Linux version 5.04 I've installed is shipped with OpenOffice 1.1.3, english version, I removed it and tried to install the swedish version, 1.1.4, but I didn't work, it asked for the CD and then installed the original version again, what to do?
[10:21] <synd-> erisco: The Gimp
[10:21] <synd-> end of story
[10:21] <Stormx> AndieB: There should be swedish language support for it.
[10:21] <omeg> Pardon!
[10:21] <omeg> Okay, so I'm wrong, but yeah.
[10:21] <omeg> Chill!
[10:21] <Chaotic_Reality> Stormx, synd-, that did it. thanks :)
[10:22] <burnboyy> i don't know i've opend xorg with the text editor but it wont let me make changes
[10:22] <Dr_Melectaus> I have a folder, and im trying to change the permissions so i can write to it, But it wont let me. Its so i can put a skin in for XMMS plaer
[10:22] <erisco> the gimp? could you elaborate what the gimp is?
[10:22] <Stormx> burnboyy, you need to do sudo.
[10:22] <AndieB> Stormx: Oki, the menus and all?
[10:22] <omeg> I'd like to see a screenshot of Ubuntu running Photoshop.
[10:22] <synd-> erisco: similar to Photoshot, but OSS
[10:22] <burnboyy> where is that at?
[10:22] <BSG85> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <erisco> oh that program
[10:22] <synd-> erisco: google it
[10:22] <BSG85> you don't have priv to the file
[10:22] <Stormx> AndieB: Should do
[10:22] <erisco> yes i have it
[10:22] <erisco> what about this wine?
[10:22] <burnboyy> hmmm
[10:23] <erisco> i know i downloaded one
[10:23] <topyli> erisco: the GNU Image Manipulating Program. i bet it's already installed on your ubuntu machine
[10:23] <erisco> what about wine?
[10:23] <synd-> erisco: what about it?
[10:23] <topyli> erisco: good luck with wine :)
[10:23] <keith_> what do i type to download xfce?
[10:23] <synd-> wine is not fun
[10:23] <derf> does anyone know of a way of switching the default outgoing subinterface on an ethernet device to the lowest numbered subinterface instead of the highest humbered subinterface?
[10:23] <Ju1ce> i bet you can't get photoshop running with wine.
[10:23] <synd-> .exe's are not fun
[10:23] <derf> s/humber/number/
[10:23] <Stormx> synd-, wine is fun ;-)
[10:23] <Dr_Melectaus> could someone help me,I have a folder, and im trying to change the permissions so i can write to it, But it wont let me. Its so i can put a skin in for XMMS plaer
[10:24] <synd-> wine sucks
[10:24] <keith_> hmmm i did the repository things and it sstill isnt working...
[10:24] <topyli> erisco: pay codeweavers and buy crossover office, so you can run many windows programs. but really, it's not necessary
[10:24] <{cYanide}> hey er
[10:24] <synd-> keith_: are you typing sudo
[10:24] <{cYanide}> is there a way to reinstall the grud bootloader?
[10:24] <{cYanide}> and leave the rest intact
[10:24] <{cYanide}> er grub
[10:24] <topyli> yes, but it's not straightforward
[10:24] <BSG85> use chmod
[10:24] <synd-> hmm
[10:24] <{cYanide}> er
[10:24] <{cYanide}> i cant get into linux
[10:24] <{cYanide}> no bootloader
[10:25] <Stormx> xD
[10:25] <{cYanide}> (well i cant, maybe there is a way)
[10:25] <Stormx> How did you manage that?!
[10:25] <{cYanide}> er
[10:25] <derf> {cYanide}: grub-install as root
[10:25] <{cYanide}> bad accident with partition magic:/
[10:25] <{cYanide}> lol
[10:25] <Stormx> rofl.
[10:25] <burnboyy> i've been getting to xorg through the file manager
[10:25] <BSG85> Dr_Melectaus use chmod to change dir privs
[10:25] <burnboyy> there is no sudo vi dir
[10:25] <topyli> {cYanide}: in short: boot from a live cd or whatever to get into linux. chroot to your root partition. run grub-install
[10:25] <{cYanide}> sh
[10:25] <{cYanide}> rt
[10:25] <{cYanide}> erm
[10:25] <{cYanide}> i have... the install cd
[10:25] <BSG85> burnboyy type .. sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:25] <Stormx> burnboyy: sudo gedit /path/to/xorg/thefilehere.
[10:26] <AndieB> Java Runtime Enviroment, how in the hell do I install that...
[10:26] <burnboyy> where do you put that at?
[10:26] <burnboyy> there is no command line this is GUI
[10:26] <Dr_Melectaus> BSG85, how d i do that?
[10:26] <Stormx> burnboyy - in terminal.
[10:26] <burnboyy> OH
[10:26] <burnboyy> well why didn't you say so :P
[10:26] <burnboyy> sweet
[10:26] <Stormx> Cause its kinda obvios x.X
[10:26] <Chaotic_Reality> Is it possible to change the outgoing port from 25 to something different using Evolution?
[10:27] <Dr_Melectaus> BSG85, how d i do use chmod to change the dir privs?
[10:27] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality, its kinda traditional for mail to be on port 25
[10:27] <Chaotic_Reality> not if you use a major ISP in todays world :/
[10:27] <BSG85> what privs do you watn? if you want to open to all then chmod -R 777 <dirname>
[10:28] <Chaotic_Reality> I could use my ISPs outgoing mail server instead of mine but i'd rather not.  Might have to use thunderbird
[10:28] <AndieB> .
[10:28] <BSG85> if you want to learn about chmod goto http://catcode.com/teachmod/  everything u need to know is there
[10:29] <dazjorz> bonjour
[10:29] <dazjorz> lol
[10:29] <keith_> sorry about that got dced
[10:29] <shawarma> I need help with pbuilder... I want to use it to build a package, but I have another homegrown package that it depends on.. If I use --extrapackages it looks in the relevant repositories, but that's not what I want..
[10:29] <dazjorz> someone knows about a good unrar program ?
[10:29] <keith_> its still saying it cant find the xfce package
[10:29] <dazjorz> I used apt-get install unrar
[10:29] <shawarma> dazjorz: unrar, perhaps?
[10:29] <synd-> keith_: xfce4
[10:29] <dazjorz> but it gives me some shitty program that fails unrarring
[10:30] <shawarma> dazjorz: Try rar instead.
[10:30] <dazjorz> 33 files faile
[10:30] <dazjorz> thanks
[10:30] <Dr_Melectaus> BSG85, im in the dir just down. what the syntax to open it to all users with full permissions
[10:30] <dazjorz> Yeehaa, it worked ;-D
[10:30] <burnboyy> hmmm well it is blank in the terminal and says new file
[10:30] <dazjorz> Dammit
[10:30] <BSG85> chmod -R 777 <directoryname> that will open it to all
[10:31] <keith_> still aint workin
[10:31] <burnboyy> do i have to paste my old xorg in there and save somehow?
[10:31] <dazjorz> now i've got all these files in my current directory -.-'
[10:31] <Dr_Melectaus> cheers BSG85
[10:31] <BSG85> no burnboyy u have a spelling mistake somewhere
[10:31] <BSG85> u r most welcome Dr_Melectaus
[10:31] <burnboyy> hmmm
[10:31] <bimberi> !java
[10:31] <Woxxy> Hi there! My father and my half-brother are just starting out with linux and they basically just wants to surf the web, check their e-mail, write some word-documents, look at some .pdfs and listen to music while chatting with friends.  Which dist of ubuntu would be the best?
[10:31] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:31] <dazjorz> wtf
[10:31] <burnboyy> i've tried a few
[10:32] <dazjorz> sdl-config: Command not found
[10:32] <dazjorz> gonna apt-get it
[10:32] <burnboyy> you wanted a space at sudo vi/ right?
[10:32] <dazjorz> can't find...
[10:32] <bimberi> AndieB: The java install info is in ubotu's post above :)
[10:32] <synd-> cant remember, where is sources.list
[10:32] <BSG85> okay easier way
[10:32] <Woxxy> thing is, they've been using winxp up until now, but i won't touch that computer anymore cause they always manage to get tons of spyware and viruses.
[10:32] <BSG85> type exactly what I type :)
[10:32] <burnboyy> LOL
[10:32] <BSG85> cd /etc/X11
[10:32] <burnboyy> i did before
[10:32] <Woxxy> so i decided to install ubuntu for them :)
[10:32] <Woxxy> anyone?
[10:32] <icewt> Woxxy, err.. the latest release of ubuntu
[10:32] <BSG85> when u r in the dir
[10:32] <BSG85> type
[10:32] <synd-> cant remember, where is sources.list
[10:33] <{cYanide}> im back erm
[10:33] <bimberi> Woxxy: This is a funny place to ask :) - ubuntu of course !!!
[10:33] <Woxxy> icewt: kubuntu, edubuntu or just plain ubuntu?
[10:33] <BSG85> sudo vi xorg.conf
[10:33] <Woxxy> bimberi: yeah, i know i want ubuntu, just not which one of those three
[10:33] <sun> yahoo! i got my Audigy 2 Value soundcard working :)
[10:33] <{cYanide}> im not sure how to er start the grub install,
[10:33] <vader1102> Woxxy: I have been using Hoary Ubuntu for 2 weeks now and it took very little setup for it
[10:33] <ogra> Woxxy, you dont want edubuntu :)
[10:33] <{cYanide}> all i have is the install cd
[10:33] <burnboyy> hmmm
[10:33] <ogra> Woxxy, its not installable currently
[10:34] <bimberi> Woxxy: k - yes, not edubuntu, but either of the other two and it comes down to personal preferences
[10:34] <Woxxy> i've tried kubuntu for a while, but i just think it seems so bloated, but maybe they'll find it easier than gnome
[10:34] <keith_> got it to work
[10:34] <keith_> thanks guys
[10:34] <{cYanide}> so er
[10:34] <{cYanide}> how would i reinstall grub again?
[10:34] <Woxxy> well... visually, i find gnome more attractive... guess i'll go with regular ubuntu then
[10:34] <burnboyy> hah jackpot
[10:34] <darkheart> Hello. I was trying out vnc on my Ubuntu box and everything seemed to work fine. However, when I logged into the X session, a window popped up saying something about conflicting settings with the X keyboard and gnome keyboard settings or such. I chose to go with the Gnome keyboard. Unfortuantely, when I try to type something in the vnc session, it seems the keys are mapped incorrectly. Where would I go to change that?
[10:34] <BSG85> Woot
[10:34] <burnboyy> the command lines are a bit different then dos
[10:34] <Chaotic_Reality> what is the best way to uninstall things?  can you do ap-get uninstall <packagename> ?
[10:34] <Woxxy> thanks, i was just wondering about edubuntu
[10:35] <{cYanide}> _
[10:35] <burnboyy> i can't believe you can have spaces in command lines
[10:35] <Stormx> huh?
[10:35] <Stormx> You CAN have spaces...
[10:35] <Kyral> like in filenames he means
[10:35] <Stormx> you just need to escape them.
[10:35] <Kyral> but you have to escape him
[10:35] <burnboyy> ya that is weird
[10:35] <Kyral> err
[10:35] <Kyral> them
[10:35] <darkheart> Chaotic_Reality It's apt-get remove <packagename>
[10:35] <bimberi> Woxxy: edubuntu is oriented towards use in schools
[10:35] <burnboyy> dos never allowed that
[10:35] <Kyral> DAMNIT!
[10:35] <BSG85> Chaotic_Reality get synaptic if you are new to apt
[10:35] <Chaotic_Reality> darkheart, thanks.
[10:35] <Chaotic_Reality> BSG85, whats that do?
[10:36] <Kyral> Chaotic_Reality, its the GUI frontend to Apt
[10:36] <Chaotic_Reality> BSG85, i understand apt-get, just need to get the syntax of everything down...i'm coming from a freebsd background mostly
[10:36] <BSG85> Chaotic_Reality gui interface .. does everything apt does.. only u don't have to worry about corrupting anything
[10:36] <Kyral> corrupting?
[10:36] <BSG85> ooo a fella BSder :) ... WOOT
[10:36] <Kyral> since when the hell can you corrupt with Apt?
[10:36] <Azmodan> Is it possible to make Ubuntu automatically run a command at shutdown ?
[10:36] <topyli> how does apt corrupt things?
[10:37] <Stormx> Chaotic_Reality: Use synaptic, you 1338 f00
[10:37] <BSG85> u do .. and it's not nice when the db is corrupt .. then u fix it .. and that's a pain
[10:37] <Stormx> xD
[10:37] <Chaotic_Reality> is synaptic this software updates icon next to my lan icon and sound at the top right in ubuntu?
[10:37] <Kyral> No offense BSG85, but what are you on?
[10:37] <burnboyy> BSG85 well the file opend but it is just an expanation, the xorg.conf doesn't have the refresh rate
[10:38] <burnboyy> just some font stuff and directions to the manual
[10:38] <nJess> how does a gui that still uses the sli program prvent an "error" for the cli program?
[10:38] <BSG85> will it was something very nice :) Kyral  but I am not .. and yes it is possible to mess things up really bad with apt.. it's not something new
[10:38] <nJess> cli program8
[10:38] <dazjorz> how do I install the KDE desktop ?
[10:38] <dazjorz> just kubuntu-desktop ?
[10:38] <dazjorz> apt-get kubuntu-desktop ?
[10:39] <mabel> I want to apt-get install a language pack for mozilla-firefox, but it's not in my repository. What can I do?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> dazjorz: Should be it.
[10:39] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <Stormx> mabel: you can download it as a .deb and isntall it.
[10:39] <Dr_Melectaus> Is there a Tutorial for installing XMMS skins on ubuntu?
[10:39] <dazjorz> Ok.
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Dr_Melectaus: Checked ubuntuforums?
[10:39] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: Its easy.
[10:39] <darkheart> Anyone have any idea on why the keyboard is mapped incorrectly for my vnc session? (i.e. pushing 'f' output 'h')
[10:39] <Dr_Melectaus> Tomcat_,  good call ;)
[10:39] <topyli> BSG85: well, if you can mess up stuff with apt, then you certainly can do the same with synaptic
[10:40] <crashd> how do you edit the launchbar in metacity?
[10:40] <mabel> Stormx, how would I install it?
[10:40] <Dr_Melectaus> Stormx,  fancy telling me in pm. i turned the file into a .gz, and put it in th skins dir but that didnt work
[10:40] <BSG85> I totally agree Topyli
[10:40] <Stormx> dpkg -i <package name>
[10:40] <Stormx> Will install a .deb file.
[10:41] <Kyral> forgot the sudo
[10:41] <darkheart> Dr_Melectaus Just throw the skins in your ~/.xmms/Skins folder and that should do it.
[10:41] <Stormx> Yep darkheart
[10:42] <topyli> :)
[10:42] <Dr_Melectaus> k darkheart
[10:42] <darkheart> I use xmms...Get some kind of error when trying to use Rhythmbox about not having anything to decode my mp3s.
[10:42] <crashd> use bmp!
[10:42] <synd-> topyli: beep media?
[10:42] <crashd> it's teh shit ;P
[10:42] <Stormx> BMP basicly IS XMMS xD
[10:42] <crashd> well
[10:43] <crashd> xmms with gtk2 ;)
[10:43] <crashd> which is far superior
[10:43] <synd-> Stormx: not exactly
[10:43] <Stormx> synd-: but pretty close.
[10:43] <topyli> synd-: i use rhythmbox mostly, but muine is pretty cool as well
[10:43] <djp> topyli, i am more than happy with rhythmbox... however i do currently need to use ogg123 in order to playback streaming radio as rhythmbox does have an issue with this at the current time
[10:43] <Stormx> bah
[10:43] <Tomcat_> rhythmbox \o/
[10:43] <crashd> how do you edit the launchbar in gnome ?
[10:43] <amp> howdy folks. just installed ubuntu (woo hoo!) I don't remember setting the root password during the install. Now I don't know what it is. How to change?
[10:43] <Tomcat_> crashd: Right click, add something.
[10:43] <Stormx> I love how you can use winamp skins with XMMS 2
[10:43] <crashd> Tomcat_: i tried that earlier :\
[10:43] <crashd> hmm
[10:43] <synd-> amp: you dont need root
[10:43] <topyli> djp: it does? my rhythmbox seems to be doing just fine
[10:43] <crashd> maybe my mouse is playing up
[10:43] <Stormx> I'm using the default winamp 5 skin ;-)
[10:44] <synd-> amp: sudo takes care of root for you
[10:44] <darkheart> amp root password is the user password.
[10:44] <AnD-> Question: How can I install the gnu c++ compiler with the apt-get command, apt-get install c++ doesn't work ?
[10:44] <djp> topyli: not with ogg streams no. you probably use mp3 streaming
[10:44] <bimberi> amp: there is none, the root account is disabled and you use sudo for superuser access
[10:44] <Chaotic_Reality> sweet. you can change the outgoing port in thunderbird.  bye bye evolution
[10:44] <Goodspeed> how do i cahnge folder permissions?
[10:44] <synd-> AnD-: sudo apt-get isntall build-essential
[10:44] <crashd> another thing that gripes me about metacity is the way it seems to take up more screenspace than it should
[10:44] <topyli> djp: yes, i mostly listen to somafm which has mp3 IIRC
[10:44] <AnD-> ok thanks
[10:44] <amp> so when I try to run the ubuntu update manager, and it prompts me for a password, what password do I provide?
[10:45] <Kyral> your user password
[10:45] <darkheart> amp your password
[10:45] <amp> okee dokee
[10:45] <synd-> amp: the password you entered when you installed ubuntu
[10:45] <synd-> entered/created
[10:45] <djp> topyli: mp3 streams are fine, it is ogg streams that have the problem. basically the first track will play fine, then when a second starts an error will occur...
[10:45] <Goodspeed> how do i change folder permissions?
[10:45] <darkheart> Is there a place to set the keyboard layout inside gnome?
[10:45] <bimberi> amp: that is - your user password
[10:45] <amp> so is the ubuntu update manager the "package manager"? I need to have emacs and it's not there by default.
[10:45] <djp> can't remeber the error message but it is logged as a bug with the maintainers of rhythmbox
[10:45] <darkheart> Goodspeed man chmod
[10:45] <bimberi> Goodspeed: chmod and chown
[10:45] <Ju1ce> Goodspeed: chmod
[10:46] <topyli> djp: actually, i'd use muine much more if it would handle streams. but stream support is not planned
[10:46] <Goodspeed> chmod what
[10:46] <Goodspeed> help
[10:46] <Goodspeed> nm
[10:46] <Ju1ce> chmod permissions file
[10:46] <whitti> Goodspeed: ie. chmod -R 755 folder
[10:46] <djp> ogg123 works fine for my ogg streams, so not really a big hassle. will just wait for a fix in rhythmbox ;)
[10:46] <Goodspeed> would that give me access to the folder?
[10:46] <KeeganW> I am about ready to trash ubuntu, I have been working for 2 days to get ndiswrapper to work, the people at the ndiswrapper IRC channel tell me it is a problem with the kernel
[10:46] <tlord___> In light of this discussion re: sudo / root, I wonder if anyone could tell me what I might have done to make my system (Hoary) stop recognizing me as its root and master? I can log in and do normal user things, but when I want to do anything that requires superuser power, it refuses to recognize my password. Any ideas?!
[10:46] <darkheart> Goodspeed Only if you own it. you can't chmod a file you don't own.
[10:47] <Goodspeed> even under root?
[10:47] <bimberi> amp: yes - system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[10:47] <darkheart> Goodspeed root can do anything.
[10:47] <KeeganW> it says the driver is installed, but it does not show up under networking
[10:47] <topyli> djp: well, you don't need much of an interface to listen to a radio stream all day :)
[10:47] <bimberi> amp: more info here ...
[10:47] <djp> exactly! :)
[10:47] <bimberi> !synaptic
[10:47] <ubotu> methinks synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:47] <djp> i even launch a lot of my music from emacs!
[10:47] <Goodspeed> how would i give my self access to a folder
[10:47] <Goodspeed> not just root
[10:48] <KeeganW> & I can't do anything with SUDO
[10:48] <topyli> djp: very leet ;)
[10:48] <lee> djp, what is your operating system. ubuntu or emacs? ;)
[10:48] <djp> ALT-X emms-play-all! ;)
[10:48] <bimberi> Goodspeed: chown <your-user-name> <foldername>
[10:48] <topyli> lee: emacs of course. linux just provides the device drivers
[10:48] <djp> lee: i do have to ask myself sometimes! ;)
[10:48] <lee> but of course!
[10:48] <{cYanide}> hey
[10:49] <Goodspeed> -R to do the entire directory?
[10:49] <{cYanide}> i fixed the grub,  er i basically started the installer, canceled, skipped to the er grub installer
[10:49] <topyli> haha
[10:49] <{cYanide}> BUT im wondering, where does the installer leave temp packages? etc it installs from
[10:49] <darkheart> Goodspeed You are gonna break something if you chmod -R  the / directory.
[10:49] <bimberi> tlord___: are you using the account you created during install?
[10:49] <Goodspeed> nooo
[10:49] <{cYanide}> i think i might have some tmp files around
[10:49] <Goodspeed> the wine directory
[10:49] <Goodspeed> dont worry
[10:49] <Goodspeed> :)
[10:49] <tlord___> bimberi: yup.
[10:49] <tlord___> It worked fine for quite some time :)
[10:50] <tlord___> But about a month ago went crazy.
[10:50] <MagiPink> I don't suppose anyone knows if there's a Share client for linux? :D
[10:50] <topyli> {cYanide}: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:50] <darkheart> MagiPink What do you mean share?
[10:51] <omeg> Argh
[10:51] <MagiPink> I mean Share. The filesharing program. :3
[10:51] <topyli> share directories or share pr0n? :)
[10:51] <omeg> Downloading updates at 1200 B/s
[10:51] <MagiPink> It's called share. Heh.
[10:51] <tlord___> bimberi: I've been busy (and low on bandwidth) in that time, figured I would just burn the live CD iso and boot into it, then see if that let me edit appropriate files, but ... I can't even get it to boot from the Live CD now. (This is on an iBook; I hold down D at boot to force it to boot from the optical drive, but it's not working ...)
[10:51] <vader1102> MagiPink: do you mean p2p?
[10:51] <darkheart> MagiPink I see..No idea in that case.
[10:51] <omeg> This reminds me of my 14.4k modem...
[10:51] <Pega> vader1102, he means share
[10:51] <BSG85> do u mean like bittorrent?
[10:51] <Pega> :P
[10:51] <vader1102> k
[10:51] <topyli> MagiPink: never heard. there are clients for many networks, like gnutella
[10:51] <vader1102>  I will stay out of it then
[10:52] <bimberi> tlord___: hm - i was about to suggest booting from the livecd too :)
[10:52] <MagiPink> It's a Japanese program... and pretty much the only thing I feel the need to switch over to my windows partition for. xD
[10:52] <Pega> I njever heard of share either, but I guess it is some protocol too... :P
[10:52] <{cYanide}> topyli,  is that the only place the install stores stuff?
[10:52] <{cYanide}> cuz er the "base installer" started but i reset before it actually did bits
[10:52] <darkheart> MagiPink Try running it with wine.
[10:52] <{cYanide}> (but it was doing package stuff)
[10:52] <topyli> {cYanide}: the packages, yes
[10:53] <MagiPink> darkheart: I did... Doesn't work. ^^
[10:53] <Choubaka> Hm
[10:53] <{cYanide}> cool so i can remove all that?
[10:53] <Choubaka> Share and Winny don't work with wine unless you apply magicks
[10:53] <darkheart> MagiPink And you don't know what network it runs on?
[10:53] <bimberi> tlord___: open a terminal and type "groups", do you see an "admin" group in the list?
[10:53] <MagiPink> darkheart: No, not at all. :3
[10:53] <MagiPink> Choubaka: Eh?
[10:54] <darkheart> MagiPink I would try to find that out, then search for a linux client that supports that network.
[10:54] <Choubaka> darkheart: it's probably their own invention.
[10:54] <tlord___> bimberi: hold a sec :)
[10:54] <Pega> Everything good comes from japan. May it be anime, schoolgirls, or tentacle monsters raping schoolgirls in anime, it comes from japan. How am I not suprised that good file sharing programs come from japan too. MagiPink, does that program happen to habe tentacles in all the buttons and menus?
[10:54] <darkheart> Choubaka Yeah, you are probably right.
[10:54] <Choubaka> MagiPink: I found some instructions to make _winny_ work with wine.
[10:54] <tlord___> bimberi: Yes, "admin" is there.
[10:54] <Choubaka> I suppose they might be applicable to share too, since they mostly had to do with proper SJIS encoding support.
[10:54] <omeg> Hey, just curious: is there anybody else here who turned off anti-aliasing hinting? I think everything looks much better without it.
[10:55] <MagiPink> How keen. :3
[10:55] <Choubaka> MagiPink: however, that how-to required patching wine sources and stabbing the configs :(
[10:55] <Choubaka> so I didn't bother.
[10:55] <Pega> Anyways. Good nite everyone.
[10:55] <Stormx> I HAV RETURN'D AFTER MANY A PROBLEM BE SOLVED FOR YE NEWBIES!!!
[10:55] <crimsun> ...
[10:56] <Choubaka> Good to hear that.
[10:56] <Stormx> I thought so.
[10:56] <darkheart> Stormx You can solve my problem then =)
[10:56] <MagiPink> Choubaka: I think I'll just stick to having to switch over to windows for the one little thing then, as it seems I might break something if I tried. xD
[10:56] <Stormx> ok, what is your problem?
[10:56] <BSG85> bye guys .. I am gonna go swtich my wife off from Suse to Ubuntu :)
[10:56] <nubbe> How do I remove the text and decrease the size of icons in the nautilus "navigation bar" (with back forward home and so on)?
[10:56] <Stormx> nubbe: its in edit > preferences
[10:57] <bimberi> tlord___: You'll need to boot to recovery mode (for superuser access) and check the file /etc/sudoers
[10:57] <darkheart> Stormx I wanted to get vnc working. Everything did work fine (install, etc) but when I first loaded up my vnc session, I got a window telling me that there was a settings conflict between X and Gnome and asking me which I wanted to use. I chose Gnome. Now it seems the keys are mapped incorrectly. Pressing 'f' results in 'h' being ouputted.
[10:57] <tlord___> how do I boot to recovery mode?
[10:57] <crimsun> tlord___: choose the Rescue boot option
[10:57] <tlord___> bimberi: how do I boot to recovery mode? :)
[10:57] <tlord___> Ah, thanks.
[10:57] <jeffm> hey guys
[10:57] <tlord___> when I check that file, what might I then do?
[10:58] <Stormx> darkheart: haha. Tried removing it and re-installing?
[10:58] <bimberi> tlord___: it should be a boot option in grub when booting (note - i don't know PPC well though)
[10:58] <jeffm> holy crap there are alot of people in here
[10:58] <lamont> if youre booting livecd, sudo -s gets you a root shell with no password
[10:58] <darkheart> Stormx Hehe I thought about it. What's the command line to remove a package including all config files?
[10:58] <lamont> but that's probably not the question..
[10:58] <nubbe> Stormx, it is?  Pls walk me thru it because I've looked a good many times.
[10:59] <Ju1ce> today I realized both Linux and irc are coming from the same country.
[10:59] <tlord___> bimberi: much appreciated! I will play a bit. First, I'm copying off what I can from the hard disk; I *can* mount an external disk (no su password required) and transfer off my various artifacts.
[10:59] <tlord___> I may be back on later, but not tonight ;)
[10:59] <bimberi> tlord___: I the following line in /etc/sudoers:
[10:59] <mgorbach228> Can someone help me out with installing ATI video card drivers?
[10:59] <mgorbach228> i just installed ubuntu and its not detecting the card
[10:59] <{cYanide}> er does anyone know how big on average the ubuntu install is?
[10:59] <mabel> It's downloading hell slow from Ubuntu's repositories? How can I find another mirror or something?
[10:59] <topyli> nubbe: actually, nautilus follows the gnome default which you can set in system -> prefs -> toolbars
[11:00] <bimberi> tlord___: dave    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:00] <Stormx> darkheart: Use synaptic
[11:00] <bimberi> tlord___: (where "dave" is my username)
[11:00] <mgorbach228> anyone?
[11:00] <bimberi> tlord___: you should have something similar
[11:00] <tlord___> ok
[11:00] <darkheart> Stormx Yeah..I will try that, but the problem is that I'm at work right now. So I have to use command line.
[11:00] <Stormx> {cYanide} not that big.
[11:01] <nubbe> topyli, Thanks a whole bunch, just what I was looking for  :)
[11:01] <{cYanide}> just paranoid now, its using 1.5ish gig, with all updates and few other bits
[11:01] <vladuz976> anybody having trouble with the nvidia drivers
[11:01] <{cYanide}> (paranoid about temp files left over from my dodgy grub reinstall)
[11:01] <bimberi> !tell mgorbach228 about ati
[11:02] <Stormx> topyli: I can't see that >_>
[11:02] <BSG85> Later Sormx :)
[11:02] <Stormx> cya ;-)
[11:03] <Stormx> !HELP MEH PLZ
[11:03] <BSG85> don't type too much :)
[11:03] <BSG85> LOL
[11:03] <burnboyy> ummm
[11:03] <Stormx> !help
[11:03] <topyli> Stormx: are you using ubuntu? :) system - prefs - menus and toolbars, change "toolbar button labels"
[11:03] <burnboyy> BSG85 now i'm stuck in 640X480 mode
[11:03] <Stormx> topyli: Yeh I saw that. Is there an equivilant for Fedora's Nauticus, though?
[11:03] <burnboyy> and the pic is still off center
[11:03] <Stormx> xD
[11:04] <{cYanide}> burnboyy er edit your monitor refresh /sync?
[11:04] <topyli> Stormx: no idea. does fedora ship gnome 2.10?
[11:04] <topyli> it's a gnome setting
[11:05] <Stormx> topyli: How can I get a location bar, along with up, backwards and forwards buttons in Nautilus?
[11:05] <ags06> has anyone gotten realplayer to work in ubuntu
[11:05] <Stormx> Why would you want realplayer?
[11:05] <ags06> how then would i play rm files
[11:05] <{cYanide}> i got realplayer n acrobat on me mobile XD
[11:05] <BSG85> realplayer working great under ubuntu :)
[11:06] <ags06> mine install fine without errors but fails to start
[11:06] <synd-> ags06: use totem-xine
[11:06] <topyli> Stormx: use the old-style browser mode. right click on any folder and choose "browse folder", or choose "file browser" from the applications -> system menu
[11:06] <avanspronsen> darkheart: try sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[11:07] <nubbe> topyli, What is "Editable menu accelerators"? It isn't covered in help...
[11:07] <Stormx> haha topyli: thats still nautilus!
[11:07] <Stormx> nautilus --no-desktop --browser %U
[11:07] <MagiPink> explore2fs just become one of my new best friends. :3
[11:07] <darkheart> avanspronsen Hey =) Just tried that. Although the reinstall didn't fix anything.
[11:09] <topyli> Stormx: of course
[11:09] <lurah> hmm
[11:09] <ags06> have anyone noticed that when installing certain packages the mouse (ps/2) would seize to work
[11:10] <ags06> the development ones
[11:10] <topyli> nubbe: i seem to remember there's a keyboard hack where you can hover over a menu item and press a key and it will be your new shortcut to that item
[11:10] <Stormx> topyli: you smartass ;-)
[11:10] <vader1102> ok, I have a valid win98 EULA and I am trying to run a popular chat on wine, but the problem is when I right click the the file and choos open with wine, it opens the setup but and I find that it cannot write the shortcuts, I cannot find where it puts the program to run, what am I doing wrong?
[11:10] <lurah> do i have a problem here or im i just stupid. when ill go root terminal, sometimes it wants password but sometimes wont. also when i install something, it wants password sometimesd but sometimes wont?
[11:10] <topyli> nubbe: that's it. hover the mouse on an item and press ctrl+<any-key> to set that as the shortcut
[11:11] <topyli> Stormx: heh
[11:11] <bimberi> lurah: no problem :) - once you put the password in it doesn't ask again for 15 minutes
[11:11] <darkheart> lurah Time delay..Once you authenticate you don't have to do it again for a while. But after a certain amount of time, you gotta do it again.
[11:11] <BSG85> where is the anykey?
[11:11] <Stormx> lurah: It depends on whether you need the password. On linux systems, you just don't control everything
[11:11] <nubbe> topyli, Yeah, thanks again
[11:11] <lurah> bimberi,  ok, its ok imho :D
[11:11] <topyli> Stormx: ph33r my gn0m3 skillz!
[11:11] <Stormx> toptli:OMGWTFBBQ!
[11:12] <BSG85> ROFLMAO
[11:12] <topyli> heh
[11:12] <BSG85> night night
[11:12] <vladuz976> {look;find;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;flex;unzip; mount;workbone;
[11:12] <vladuz976> fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;yes;eject;umount;makeclean;zip; split;done;exit}
[11:12] <topyli> bah. old
[11:12] <Stormx> topyli: You are so 1337 that your 1338
[11:12] <topyli> Stormx: and don't you forget it :)
[11:13] <pvh> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu Hoary and I'm getting hard lockups. I haven't been able to find anything in the forums or the logs that might clue me in to the problem.
[11:13] <topyli> lol
[11:13] <Stormx> ^_______________________________________________________________^;;
[11:13] <darkheart> Where do gnome and X set the keyboard mapping?
[11:13] <synd-> naim is amazing
[11:13] <pvh> A list of symptoms: My display locks up, but the pointer keeps moving. If I am listening to a song, it plays to the end but the next one doesn't start. I can SSH in and see that xorg is eating all my ticks, but it can't be killed by any means.
[11:14] <topyli> synd-: that's the ncurses app?
[11:14] <pvh> I'm not running DAMAGE or RENDER.
[11:14] <synd-> topyli: CLI aim app
[11:14] <topyli> yeah
[11:14] <synd-> dunno what ncurses is..
[11:15] <pvh> The crash seems to happen at random -- I thought it was firefox so I started using Konq more, but it crashes in Konq too.
[11:15] <topyli> synd-: it's a library for console apps to make simple guis. like mc and aptitude and many others
[11:15] <pvh> s/crashes/freezes/
[11:15] <synd-> topyli: ah, ok
[11:15] <pvh> My system is so unstable now that I've actually been booting into windows when I need to do anything serious.
[11:15] <topyli> very disturbing
[11:15] <Stormx> pvh: don't use kubuntu
[11:15] <Azmodan> I chose to have the clock based on GMT during the install but I changed my mind (another hard disk running windows).  Which file do I have to change ?
[11:15] <pvh> Stormx: is it known to have freeze bugs?
[11:16] <pvh> Stormx: I didn't see anything that matched my symptoms in the forums.
[11:16] <Stormx> pvh: Don't know, but ubuntu is the more mainstream so I'd imagine it has better support for different setups
[11:16] <topyli> pvh: might be hardware too
[11:16] <pvh> Stormx: Oh, right. I forgot to mention that -- my girlfriend is using a Gnome session and reports lockups too.
[11:17] <pvh> topyli: That's my fear. Can you recommend a diagnostic tool?
[11:17] <Stormx> :-/
[11:17] <Stormx> What are your system specs?
[11:17] <pvh> The worst is that my filesystem is getting munged.
[11:17] <mgorbach228> can someone explain why i dont have an /etc/x11/xorg.conf file?
[11:17] <pvh> AMD Athlon 1800XP, Geforce Ti4400
[11:17] <mgorbach228> or an /etc/x11 directory at all??
[11:18] <topyli> pvh: for RAM, there's memtest86. for disks, smartmontools. for processors, crash (or something like crash)
[11:18] <pvh> topyli: Thanks a lot.
[11:18] <mgorbach228> someone? please?
[11:18] <mgorbach228> lol nm .. wrong caps
[11:18] <carlson> mgorbach228, yes?
[11:18] <Stormx> mgorbach: You've installed ubuntu?
[11:19] <topyli> pvh: no, crash is a kernel debugging utility. crashme is a better general stress test
[11:19] <pvh> Stormx: And to you as well. Thanks.
[11:19] <pvh> topyli: Perfect.
[11:19] <Stormx> OK I'll brb
[11:19] <carlson> how about running ununtu as a server? is it a good idea?
[11:20] <MagiPink> Huh... If I was to use VMware or some such to have a small virtual windows machine running in Ubuntu, is there a way to get files from my Ubuntu into the virtual machine?
[11:20] <Stormx> !How much do you love me?
[11:20] <ubotu> Stormx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:20] <Stormx> rofl
[11:20] <carlson> MagiPink,  I am running right now ubuntu on vmware :) and theres a way
[11:20] <Stormx> !What is the meaning of life?
[11:20] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Stormx
[11:20] <carlson> MagiPink, you have to configure samba and the network settings for vmware
[11:21] <Stormx> !What is ubuntu?
[11:21] <ubotu> Stormx: what are you talking about?
[11:21] <MagiPink> How keen.
[11:21] <Stormx> !help What is Ubuntu?
[11:21] <Stormx> !help
[11:21] <synd-> Stormx: play with the bot in PM, please
[11:21] <avanspronsen> MagiPink: You can use VMWare shared folders to do just that
[11:21] <Stormx> synd-: I am
[11:21] <MagiPink> Thank you. :D
[11:22] <avanspronsen> MagiPink: Shared folders can be found on the settings tab under VM
[11:22] <Stormx> synd-: It doesn't reply when i PM it.
[11:22] <Stormx> anyway, bbr
[11:22] <synd-> Stormx: take off the !
[11:22] <MagiPink> avanspronsen: Thans. :)
[11:22] <MagiPink> Thanks*
[11:23] <avanspronsen> MagiPink: NP
[11:23] <MagiPink> Well, speaking of which... I need to bop over to my Ubuntu partition, as windows tires me... BRB. xD
[11:26] <MagiPink> That's the stuff.
[11:27] <a514> Hi the Live CD works great. What option do i use at the boot prompt for a textmode cli?
[11:28] <Dr_Fate> FF stopped browsing
[11:28] <Dr_Fate> WTF is wrong with this browser
[11:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> a514
[11:28] <Dr_Fate> I have never had so many problems with it
[11:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> use ctrl + alt +F1
[11:28] <a514> Dr_Fate go to about and check the version for 1.0.6
[11:29] <Dr_Fate> its the right version
[11:30] <Dr_Fate> its just loading and loading and loading
[11:30] <yuacht> flicka med msn?
[11:30] <MagiPink> Oooh... One other thing... Is there a way to make Limewire actually minimize to a little icon on the panel like gaim does? 'Cause when it's set to minimize to task bar.... IT just knd of disappears.
[11:30] <Dr_Fate> MagiPink, no, and Limewire is dead
[11:30] <codecaine> limewire is dead?
[11:30] <Dr_Fate> google it
[11:30] <Dr_Fate> there was an article
[11:31] <Eddie> I just started using ubuntu and was wondering if anyone can help me install KDE on my box?
[11:31] <crispynix-v6> anyone else missing libglu1-xorg in breezy?
[11:31] <Dr_Fate> the developers are leaving it due to RIAA
[11:31] <MagiPink> I just used it yesterday? :3
[11:31] <Goodspeed> whats the password for root?
[11:31] <Dr_Fate> Eddie, kubuntu
[11:31] <mgorbach228> ok ... just update to ati drivers and my monitor is showing nothing
[11:31] <a514> Bubbling_Zombie Thanks. I have a prb. Kubuntu stalls when KDM loads and says - id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes - no more processes left in this runlevel
[11:31] <Eddie> Dr_fate, something is wrong with my burner
[11:31] <Dr_Fate> Goodspeed, you have to create one, use sudo
[11:31] <codecaine> dr fate, works for me
[11:31] <codecaine> Eddie, install kubuntu
[11:31] <Dr_Fate> codecaine, did not say it does not work
[11:31] <crispynix-v6> Eddie: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-default-settings
[11:31] <vader1102> Dr_Fate: works for me too
[11:32] <Bubbling_Zombie> a514 , i have little to no experience with kdm , nor with the livecd
[11:32] <Dr_Fate> jesus
[11:32] <Goodspeed> how do i do that?
[11:32] <codecaine> dr_, what u mean by dead?
[11:32] <Goodspeed> sudo password?
[11:32] <mgorbach228> can somoene help me out?
[11:32] <Dr_Fate> codecaine, google it
[11:32] <vader1102> google says nothing bout it being dead
[11:32] <Eddie> I have kubuntu but can't burn it because something is wrong with my burner
[11:32] <a514> Dr
[11:32] <MagiPink> Google doesn't say anything about Limewire being dead... and the Limewire site looks okay. :3
[11:32] <Dr_Fate> vader1102, search dslreports p2p section
[11:32] <codecaine> vader1102, don't see anything on it either
[11:32] <synd-> MagiPink: limewire is terrible
[11:32] <codecaine> can we be more specific on the issue please?
[11:32] <Dr_Fate> synd, RIGHT!
[11:32] <synd-> where is the soruces.list?
[11:32] <Goodspeed> how do i set a password for root?
[11:33] <MagiPink> synd-, I don't know any alternatives. xD
[11:33] <synd-> sources.list
[11:33] <codecaine> limewire rocks, how is it terrible?
[11:33] <Dr_Fate> codecaine, I just told you exactly what I meant above
[11:33] <mgorbach228> the system boots in recovery mode
[11:33] <synd-> MagiPink: gtk-gnutella
[11:33] <Dr_Fate> very specific
[11:33] <mgorbach228> but when trying to initialize xorg i can no graphics
[11:33] <a514> Eddie, i do not recommend the lastest. It just stalls.
[11:33] <emX> Goodspeed: unless you need the root account for some specific reason, try to use sudo.
[11:33] <synd-> codecaine: java apps are terrible
[11:33] <Goodspeed> i need the root account for somethign specifi
[11:33] <Dr_Fate> synd, exatly
[11:33] <Eddie> oh, I just want a stable
[11:33] <emX> Goodspeed: what, exactly?
[11:33] <Vjaz> Hiya.
[11:33] <Goodspeed> make install of wine using the cvs
[11:33] <Dr_Fate> Goodspeed, if you don't know how to get root, I doubt you need it
[11:34] <synd-> where is sources.list at?
[11:34] <Dr_Fate> Goodspeed, sudo will work for that
[11:34] <Goodspeed> it asks for root password
[11:34] <emX> Goodspeed: sudo will do that -- 'sudo make install'
[11:34] <Dr_Fate> synd, where everything is /etc
[11:34] <Vjaz> Anyone know the correct method to boot Windows XP from Grub? I found some instructions to do that, but couldn't get it to work. Anyone with a working config file for this?
[11:34] <avanspronsen> synd-: /etc/apt
[11:34] <synd-> !repos
[11:34] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:34] <emX> Goodspeed: it wants *your* user password, not roots (the root account is disabled)
[11:34] <Dr_Fate> Vjaz, thats done automagically
[11:34] <ubuntu_> what is the root password on the live cd?
[11:34] <Vjaz> Dr_Fate: wasn't in my case
[11:35] <synd-> Dr_Fate, avanspronsen: thanks
[11:35] <emX> ubuntu_: there is none.
[11:35] <Dr_Fate> synd, np
[11:35] <emX> ubuntu_: use sudo.
[11:35] <ubuntu_> emX, it asks me for a password when i su
[11:35] <ubuntu_> ah ok
[11:35] <Vjaz> Dr_Fate: It could be that my XP installation is broken though.
[11:35] <Vjaz> Dr_Fate: But do you know the right configuration if I want to do it manually?
[11:36] <Dr_Melectaus> Does anyone no any good system monitoring software that has a GUI and says shiz about How much of the CPU is being used, ram, emails etc etc
[11:36] <shido> any news on getting a conexant capture card to play SOUND yet in ubuntu? I get the TV picture clear as day but no soun - let alone the radio features of the card
[11:36] <weejamer> Does anyone know how i can mount a single drive on a raid controller
[11:36] <omeg> Ack
[11:36] <omeg> Firefox tried to auto-install the Flash plug-in, but it failed.
[11:37] <omeg> I wonder why.
[11:37] <omeg> Maybe it's because I'm downloading updates.
[11:37] <weejamer> that happened to me too omeg
[11:37] <vader1102> well, time for me to go visit a customer or 2, I will return sometime tonight
[11:37] <mgorbach228> can someone help me out?
[11:37] <omeg> I wonder what the problem is
[11:37] <omeg> You have any idea, weejamer?
[11:37] <mgorbach228> i cant figure out why xorg is not working with my monitor once i updated ati fglrx drivers
[11:38] <mcphail> shido: no specific ideas, but maybe you're card has the same trouble as a lot of other things with ESD?
[11:38] <mcphail> *your
[11:38] <weejamer> no omeg i tried to manual install but i have other problems at the moment
[11:38] <weejamer> Does anyone know how i can mount a single drive on a raid controller
[11:38] <codecaine> anyone in here using cisco client?
[11:38] <mgorbach228> i have no idea what the problem is
[11:38] <shido> mcphail, it took me 3 days to figure out how to get sound working in ubuntu -
[11:38] <shido> :)
[11:38] <shido> let me plug the card back in and try it
[11:38] <shido> brb
[11:39] <mgorbach228> no one?
[11:39] <weejamer> no omeg i tried to manual install but i have other problems at the moment
[11:39] <weejamer> Does anyone know how i can mount a single drive on a raid controller
[11:40] <avanspronsen> omeg: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:40] <codecaine> weejamer, raid controllers are for use with 2 or more drives right?
[11:41] <codecaine> put the drive in the hardware raid and mount it
[11:42] <xquizit> Hi, does anyone here use xfce??
[11:42] <Blissex> xquizit: consider #XFCE and asking more detailed questions.
[11:43] <synd-> xquizit: many do
[11:43] <DaSkreech> E!!!
[11:43] <xquizit> ok, it's just a simple question. but i'll ask there :)
[11:44] <sm> hi ubuntites
[11:44] <LinuxJones> sm, welcome
[11:44] <sm> breezy colony 2 installer hangs on my dell inspiron 1100 after copying all files from the cd.. would anyone have any insight ?
[11:45] <Syco54645> how how do i burn cds with the live cd?
[11:45] <seth_k> Colony 2 is quite unstable
[11:45] <LinuxJones> It's unusually quiet in here right now
[11:45] <ompaul> Syco54645, which drive is your burner?
[11:46] <sm> I see.. was colony 1 better ?
[11:46] <Syco54645> um well in udev it is /dev/cdroms/cdrom1
[11:46] <Syco54645> i have 2 burners
[11:46] <Doonz> is there a command that allows me to see how much bw my card is putting out
[11:46] <Syco54645> but that is the free one
[11:46] <ompaul> Syco54645, actually you can try cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1 some.iso
[11:47] <sm> I have to reinstall, and I'd prefer not to use old hoary for it
[11:47] <Syco54645> ompaul: ok i just did a scanbus on cdrecord and it yelled at me... i never got it to work with ide drives though
[11:47] <ompaul> Syco54645, that is what it does at me but that command works :)
[11:47] <Syco54645> ok
[11:47] <Syco54645> kool
[11:48] <Syco54645> i just need to put it into dao mode then
[11:48] <Syco54645> unless i cant
[11:48] <ompaul> Syco54645, and just for fun I burn lots of linux and ubuntu for peeps
[11:48] <avanspronsen> sm:why not reinstall using hoary and upgrade?
[11:48] <mgorbach228> can someone help me out?
[11:48] <mgorbach228> i cant figure out why xorg is not working with my monitor once i updated ati fglrx drivers
[11:48] <sm> if there's no better cd image, I'll do that
[11:48] <Syco54645> ompaul, if you want to have alot of fun why not get me a harddrive :P that way i dont need to use a live cd for a computer
[11:49] <sm> also I wonder if I'm looking in the right place for installer bug reports ? bugzilla -> advanced search -> Ubuntu -> 5.10
[11:49] <ompaul> Syco54645, cds cheap :) hard drives expensive here - 250 for 120
[11:50] <Syco54645> ompaul, wow i get a 200 gig for 100 usd here
[11:50] <Syco54645> i just dont have the money to get oine now
[11:50] <cloudr> anybody knows any tool for linux similar to partionmagic able to convert ntfs to fat32 (without destroying the data)
[11:50] <Syco54645> crap why is it when i type "cdrecord --help | grep -i dao" it doesnt grep?
[11:51] <lurah> darn
[11:51] <lurah> cant get my ess 18xx work here :(
[11:51] <xquizit> hey, eariler today I noticed that there was an update for gzip. but once I loged out I got an error. it said something about bonobo and I can do anything other then look at my desktop :S
[11:51] <ompaul> Syco54645, well a live CD is not a full install
[11:52] <Syco54645> still grep should work
[11:52] <mindmedic> cloudr, i dont know, but if you want to access the files on your windows partition you could give captive-ntfs a try
[11:52] <ompaul> Syco54645, only if the doc is there
[11:52] <codecaine> gtk-gnutella won't even download a gosh darn file how is this a great program?
[11:52] <Syco54645> ompaul, when i type cdrecord --help it displays stuff
[11:52] <Syco54645> it is just going to the wrong stdout or something
[11:52] <Syco54645> i forget how to fix it now
[11:53] <Doonz> is there a command that shows the current speed my nick is sending and receiving at
[11:53] <Doonz> nic*
[11:53] <xquizit> also I tried running nautilus form the cli and nothing happend :(
[11:53] <Syco54645> does anyone know if ubuntu uses a devfs type thing?
[11:53] <cloudr> mindmedic: it is just a matter of having reliable read/write access to a windows partition
[11:53] <mindmedic> :D
[11:54] <mindmedic> it works for me, but sure, theres no guarantee
[11:54] <Syco54645> w00t guess it doesnt or i am unfamiliar with how it is working
[11:54] <ompaul> Syco54645, wrong stdout - emm - the other one prints and emm --- grep is not > or < so I have a lot of trouble with that idea
[11:54] <mindmedic> cloudr, is it a boot partition?
[11:55] <cloudr> dev/hda1
[11:55] <Syco54645> ompaul, i know what i mean, i just dont feel like explaining it... basically it is that it is grepping something that isnt there because it is using a different stdout or some crap
[11:55] <Syco54645> but it still displays
[11:55] <mindmedic> cloudr, sry, i meant is windows installed on it?
[11:55] <Eddie> I need some help installing KDE on Ubuntu, and I can't get kubuntu because my cd-rom doesn't seem to work
[11:55] <mgorbach228> can someone help me out?
[11:55] <mgorbach228> i cant figure out why xorg is not working with my monitor once i updated ati fglrx drivers
[11:56] <mgorbach228> no one on this forum is willing to help? come on?
[11:56] <Syco54645> oh crap this cdrecord doesnt support dvds
[11:56] <ompaul> Syco54645, then redirect it to echo
[11:56] <Vjaz> that's why it's not called dvdrecord
[11:56] <mgorbach228> someone must know ...
[11:56] <Syco54645> Vjaz, there is a version that does
[11:56] <Vjaz> Syco54645: all right :-)
[11:56] <Syco54645> ompaul, yeah that is a fix, but considering that i am on a live cd id rather not fix it now
[11:57] <Syco54645> does anyone know how i could burn a dvd with the live cd?
[11:57] <cloudr> mindmedic: yes it is
[11:58] <topyli> hmm. i hear the new windows (if it's ever released) will finally have a proper command line shell
[11:58] <Deviant_> Whens the next ubuntu release?
[11:58] <Ju1ce> Syco54645: Why to use live cd btw?
[11:58] <topyli> Deviant_: september
[11:58] <frank_> october
[11:58] <topyli> heh
[11:58] <ompaul> Deviant_, oct ~ 15th
[11:58] <topyli> october yes
[11:58] <avanspronsen> Deviant_: october
[11:58] <Deviant_> Whats the new ubuntu looking like?
[11:58] <mgorbach228> why does no one answer?
[11:58] <petti> topyli: yeah, slashdot already has five exploits announced for it :)
[11:58] <Deviant_> any info on it?
[11:58] <topyli> petti: that's what i'm reading :)
[11:58] <Syco54645> Ju1ce, because i have no harddrive for my main drive... it died and all i have is my two dump drives that i am not going to format
[11:58] <ompaul> mgorbach228, maybe no person knows
[11:58] <petti> :)
[11:59] <Chromance> hrm
[11:59] <ompaul> mgorbach228, and maybe the person who knows is not here
[11:59] <mindmedic> cloudr, maybe check gnu parted, but i doubt there is a free utility out there that can keep your win partition healthy when converting it
[11:59] <ompaul> mgorbach228, or busy and will be with you in 5 mins
[12:00] <crashd> hmm