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| lexhider | any reason kmailcvt isn't a dependency for kubuntu-desktop? | 01:58 |
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| tvo | hm, KDE should be capable of opening index.docbook.gz help files isn't it? | 12:47 |
| venda | should | 12:48 |
| tvo | if I recall correctly, it did so before my holidays.. | 12:48 |
| tvo | now it doesn't | 12:48 |
| venda | khelpcenter should open index.docbook.gz | 12:48 |
| tvo | let me check a thing, might be my fault.. | 12:49 |
| tvo | no, I'm clueless. It used to open the file, now it doesn't | 12:51 |
| tvo | it works if I gunzip the file | 12:52 |
| venda | bz2 | 12:53 |
| venda | should work | 12:53 |
| tvo | nope | 12:54 |
| tvo | I tried some more help files- most of them are plain index.docbook | 12:57 |
| tvo | if I gzip them I get "The requested help file could not be found. Check that you have installed the documentation." | 12:58 |
| tvo | does apt/dpkg generate a log file somewhere? | 12:59 |
| tvo | Riddell: you did have kio-locate installed isn't it? | 01:09 |
| tvo | if so, could you type help:/kio-locate/ in konq | 01:09 |
| tvo | and tell me if it gives an error or a helppage | 01:09 |
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| Mez | how do I get kate out fo full screen mode | 02:03 |
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| carl2 | is kynaptic broken? | 07:02 |
| carl2 | depends libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.9 which is new a virtual package | 07:06 |
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| tvo | Riddell: ping | 08:23 |
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| author | http://stream.moulticast.net:8060 <- Radio | 08:55 |
| Riddell | tvo: hi | 09:02 |
| Riddell | tvo: index.docbook files shouldn't be compressed | 09:03 |
| tvo | somehow there is a compressed index.docbook in the .deb I have here | 09:03 |
| tvo | and I have no clue as of why it is compressed | 09:03 |
| tvo | I've been trying to figure it out, but no success yet | 09:04 |
| tvo | Riddell: maybe you've got an idea what to check.. | 09:06 |
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| tvo | Riddell: and the good news: I've almost got a patch for hidden files into KDE | 09:08 |
| tvo | (see kde-devel) | 09:09 |
| tvo | (mailinglist, that is) | 09:09 |
| author | has you fixxed the "media://" problem? or what did "hidden files" mean? | 09:12 |
| tvo | author: with hidden files I meant KDE didn't allow files to be hidden except dotfiles | 09:16 |
| tvo | author: I created a patch which allows kioslaves to add an UDS_HIDDEN entry to override the (absence of) the leading dot | 09:17 |
| author | oh sorry | 09:17 |
| tvo | np | 09:17 |
| author | my english wants to be better ;) | 09:18 |
| tvo | hehe. I'm not a native english speaker too :) | 09:18 |
| author | but yours is better then my | 09:20 |
| tvo | Riddell: you still there? | 09:24 |
| Riddell | tvo: no idea why it's gzipped | 09:24 |
| Riddell | it's weird | 09:24 |
| tvo | that's what I thought. I tried building it with scons, mini-scons, but no gzipped file | 09:25 |
| Riddell | are there any newer versions of mini-scons? | 09:26 |
| tvo | I don't know, but it shouldn't matter anyway since the scons-mini.tar.bz2 is included in the source package | 09:26 |
| tvo | I'll ask ita as soon as he comes online | 09:27 |
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| tvo | Install file: "doc/en/index.docbook" as "debian/kio-locate/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio-locate/index.docbook" | 09:31 |
| tvo | ^^ in build log | 09:31 |
| tvo | -rw-r--r-- root/root 2484 2005-07-15 21:56:22 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio-locate/index.docbook.gz | 09:32 |
| tvo | it's somewhere between lines 846 and 948 in build log (i386) | 09:33 |
| Riddell | it's dh_compress | 09:34 |
| Riddell | DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE=.docbook | 09:38 |
| Riddell | that's the trick | 09:38 |
| Riddell | however it should be an article not a book and part of kioslaves manual | 09:39 |
| tvo | ah ok | 09:41 |
| tvo | article as in only one page instead of 2 or 3? | 09:42 |
| Riddell | dunno, I was just quoting lauri :) | 09:42 |
| Riddell | look at other kioslaves | 09:43 |
| Riddell | I assume it's the docbook <article> rather than <book> | 09:43 |
| tvo | ok, I'll play a bit with it, see what happens | 09:43 |
| tvo | I also noticed all kioslaves index.docbooks are together in 1 directory | 09:44 |
| Riddell | yeah, but I assume there's a way to do it outwith that | 09:45 |
| Riddell | ask on #kde-docs if you get stuck | 09:45 |
| tvo | yup, ok, I'll do | 09:46 |
| tvo | did you see the uds_hidden.diff patch? | 09:47 |
| Riddell | "I like the patch" from dfaure. that's a good sign :) | 09:48 |
| tvo | yeah that's what I thought too, certainly the "I commit it" part ;) | 09:49 |
| tvo | but I've to get it tested / test it first | 09:49 |
| tvo | how difficult is it to test it by myself? | 09:50 |
| Riddell | is it backwards compatable somehow or will existing ioslaves suddenly show all files until they're modified to use uds_hidden? | 09:51 |
| tvo | backwards compatible | 09:51 |
| Riddell | how does that work? | 09:51 |
| tvo | there's an isHidden() function. INstead of only looking at the dot, it now checks for the m_hidden member, | 09:52 |
| tvo | which can be Auto, Hide or Show | 09:52 |
| tvo | Auto is the default, if m_hidden == Auto it fall through to the dot-checking code | 09:52 |
| tvo | if UDS_HIDDEN is given m_hidden is set to Hide or Show depending on value in m_long of the UDSAtom | 09:53 |
| tvo | true = Hide, false = Show | 09:53 |
| tvo | so essentially UDS_HIDDEN overrides the dot or the absence thereof | 09:53 |
| Riddell | clever clever | 09:53 |
| tvo | thanks. (I didn't feel like modifying all ioslaves :) | 09:54 |
| tvo | so, how difficult is it to test it by myself (= compiling KDE I suppose?). | 09:57 |
| Riddell | not tricky, just time consuming | 10:08 |
| tvo | hmm ok, how long do you estimate compile time on an 800 MHz Amd Duron? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | get kdelibs 3.5 branch from SVN | 10:08 |
| Riddell | couple of hours? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | writing a patch without testing it :) that's pretty impressive | 10:09 |
| tvo | ok that's not too bad | 10:09 |
| tvo | well writing it not me thinks, rather writing a patch without testing, which has no bugs at all when finally tested ;) | 10:10 |
| tvo | I'll test tomorrow, my PC is too noisy to keep it on while sleeping | 10:11 |
| Riddell | for more pretty output use unsermake -p | 10:12 |
| Riddell | that has a little % indicator | 10:12 |
| tvo | that's cool | 10:12 |
| Riddell | very | 10:13 |
| tvo | Riddell: a new kio-locate release should be finished before 11th isn't it? | 10:15 |
| tvo | or are you delaying kubuntu release if KDE 3.5 is not yet released? | 10:16 |
| author | http://jrepin.blogspot.com/2005/07/jlps-kde-35-previews-part-1.html | 10:16 |
| author | amazing screens | 10:16 |
| author | from kde 3.5 | 10:16 |
| Riddell | 11th is feature freeze, but kio-slave is still in universe | 10:17 |
| author | "Stability of this prebeta version is very good." | 10:17 |
| Riddell | I should hassle the authorities to get it into main before then | 10:17 |
| Riddell | tvo: no, we can't delay breezy alas | 10:18 |
| Riddell | but 3.5 should be in backports | 10:18 |
| Riddell | if Mez agrees :) | 10:19 |
| tvo | ok, was just checking.. | 10:19 |
| Riddell | yeah, it's a shame | 10:22 |
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| Mez | Riddell, if you can help me make it possible for both | 10:31 |
| Riddell | without the C++ transition it should be a lot easier | 10:33 |
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| Mez | Riddell, yes, but - are you on about bp'ing to hoary or breezy | 11:15 |
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