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lexhiderany reason kmailcvt isn't a dependency for kubuntu-desktop?01:58
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pefhello08:49
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tvohm, KDE should be capable of opening index.docbook.gz help files isn't it?12:47
vendashould12:48
tvoif I recall correctly, it did so before my holidays..12:48
tvonow it doesn't12:48
vendakhelpcenter should open index.docbook.gz12:48
tvolet me check a thing, might be my fault..12:49
tvono, I'm clueless. It used to open the file, now it doesn't12:51
tvoit works if I gunzip the file12:52
vendabz212:53
vendashould work12:53
tvonope12:54
tvoI tried some more help files- most of them are plain index.docbook12:57
tvoif I gzip them I get "The requested help file could not be found. Check that you have installed the documentation."12:58
tvodoes apt/dpkg generate a log file somewhere?12:59
tvoRiddell: you did have kio-locate installed isn't it?01:09
tvoif so, could you type help:/kio-locate/ in konq01:09
tvoand tell me if it gives an error or a helppage01:09
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Mezhow do I get kate out fo full screen mode02:03
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carl2is kynaptic broken?07:02
carl2depends libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.9 which is new a virtual package07:06
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tvoRiddell: ping08:23
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authorhttp://stream.moulticast.net:8060 <- Radio08:55
Riddelltvo: hi09:02
Riddelltvo: index.docbook files shouldn't be compressed09:03
tvosomehow there is a compressed index.docbook in the .deb I have here09:03
tvoand I have no clue as of why it is compressed09:03
tvoI've been trying to figure it out, but no success yet09:04
tvoRiddell: maybe you've got an idea what to check..09:06
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tvoRiddell: and the good news: I've almost got a patch for hidden files into KDE09:08
tvo(see kde-devel)09:09
tvo(mailinglist, that is)09:09
authorhas you fixxed the "media://" problem?  or what did "hidden files" mean?09:12
tvoauthor: with hidden files I meant KDE didn't allow files to be hidden except dotfiles09:16
tvoauthor: I created a patch which allows kioslaves to add an UDS_HIDDEN entry to override the (absence of) the leading dot09:17
authoroh sorry09:17
tvonp09:17
authormy english wants to be better ;)09:18
tvohehe. I'm not a native english speaker too :)09:18
authorbut yours is better then my 09:20
tvoRiddell: you still there?09:24
Riddelltvo: no idea why it's gzipped09:24
Riddellit's weird09:24
tvothat's what I thought. I tried building it with scons, mini-scons, but no gzipped file09:25
Riddellare there any newer versions of mini-scons?09:26
tvoI don't know, but it shouldn't matter anyway since the scons-mini.tar.bz2 is included in the source package09:26
tvoI'll ask ita as soon as he comes online09:27
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tvoInstall file: "doc/en/index.docbook" as "debian/kio-locate/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio-locate/index.docbook"09:31
tvo^^ in build log09:31
tvo-rw-r--r-- root/root      2484 2005-07-15 21:56:22 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio-locate/index.docbook.gz09:32
tvoit's somewhere between lines 846 and 948 in build log (i386)09:33
Riddellit's dh_compress09:34
RiddellDEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE=.docbook09:38
Riddellthat's the trick09:38
Riddellhowever it should be an article not a book and part of kioslaves manual09:39
tvoah ok09:41
tvoarticle as in only one page instead of 2 or 3?09:42
Riddelldunno, I was just quoting lauri :)09:42
Riddelllook at other kioslaves09:43
RiddellI assume it's the docbook <article> rather than <book>09:43
tvook, I'll play a bit with it, see what happens09:43
tvoI also noticed all kioslaves index.docbooks are together in 1 directory09:44
Riddellyeah, but I assume there's a way to do it outwith that09:45
Riddellask on #kde-docs if you get stuck09:45
tvoyup, ok, I'll do09:46
tvodid you see the uds_hidden.diff patch?09:47
Riddell"I like the patch"  from dfaure.  that's a good sign :)09:48
tvoyeah that's what I thought too, certainly the "I commit it" part ;)09:49
tvobut I've to get it tested / test it first09:49
tvohow difficult is it to test it by myself?09:50
Riddellis it backwards compatable somehow or will existing ioslaves suddenly show all files until they're modified to use uds_hidden?09:51
tvobackwards compatible09:51
Riddellhow does that work?09:51
tvothere's an isHidden() function. INstead of only looking at the dot, it now checks for the m_hidden member,09:52
tvowhich can be Auto, Hide or Show09:52
tvoAuto is the default, if m_hidden == Auto it fall through to the dot-checking code09:52
tvoif UDS_HIDDEN is given m_hidden is set to Hide or Show depending on value in m_long of the UDSAtom09:53
tvotrue = Hide, false = Show09:53
tvoso essentially UDS_HIDDEN overrides the dot or the absence thereof09:53
Riddellclever clever09:53
tvothanks. (I didn't feel like modifying all ioslaves :)09:54
tvoso, how difficult is it to test it by myself (= compiling KDE I suppose?).09:57
Riddellnot tricky, just time consuming10:08
tvohmm ok, how long do you estimate compile time on an 800 MHz Amd Duron?10:08
Riddellget kdelibs 3.5 branch from SVN10:08
Riddellcouple of hours?10:08
Riddellwriting a patch without testing it :)  that's pretty impressive10:09
tvook that's not too bad10:09
tvowell writing it not me thinks, rather writing a patch without testing, which has no bugs at all when finally tested ;)10:10
tvoI'll test tomorrow, my PC is too noisy to keep it on while sleeping10:11
Riddellfor more pretty output use unsermake -p10:12
Riddellthat has a little % indicator10:12
tvothat's cool10:12
Riddellvery10:13
tvoRiddell: a new kio-locate release should be finished before 11th isn't it?10:15
tvoor are you delaying kubuntu release if KDE 3.5 is not yet released?10:16
authorhttp://jrepin.blogspot.com/2005/07/jlps-kde-35-previews-part-1.html10:16
authoramazing screens10:16
authorfrom kde 3.510:16
Riddell11th is feature freeze, but kio-slave is still in universe10:17
author"Stability of this prebeta version is very good."10:17
RiddellI should hassle the authorities to get it into main before then10:17
Riddelltvo: no, we can't delay breezy alas10:18
Riddellbut 3.5 should be in backports10:18
Riddellif Mez agrees :)10:19
tvook, was just checking..10:19
Riddellyeah, it's a shame10:22
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MezRiddell, if you can help me make it possible for both10:31
Riddellwithout the C++ transition it should be a lot easier10:33
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MezRiddell, yes, but - are you on about bp'ing to hoary or breezy11:15

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