=== seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.220.203] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] any reason kmailcvt isn't a dependency for kubuntu-desktop? === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.201.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _venda_ [~sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lamont-away is now known as lamont === _lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.201.242] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === _venda_ is now known as venda === pef [~loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:49] hello === lexhider [~lexhider@dsl-220-235-197-115.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cooljoe [~cooljoe@9044f536f5c42241.session.tor] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === author [~author@p509063D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D21F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cooljoe [~cooljoe@206.51.237.44] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-190-48.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === fromoze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromooze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromOze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromoze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author is now known as author|afk === fromoze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromoze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromoze [~fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author|afk [~author@p509063D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author [~author@p509063D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author [~author@p509063D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === author [~author@p509063D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] hm, KDE should be capable of opening index.docbook.gz help files isn't it? [12:48] should [12:48] if I recall correctly, it did so before my holidays.. [12:48] now it doesn't [12:48] khelpcenter should open index.docbook.gz [12:49] let me check a thing, might be my fault.. [12:51] no, I'm clueless. It used to open the file, now it doesn't [12:52] it works if I gunzip the file [12:53] bz2 [12:53] should work [12:54] nope [12:57] I tried some more help files- most of them are plain index.docbook [12:58] if I gzip them I get "The requested help file could not be found. Check that you have installed the documentation." [12:59] does apt/dpkg generate a log file somewhere? [01:09] Riddell: you did have kio-locate installed isn't it? 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[07:06] depends libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.9 which is new a virtual package === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubun [ircap751@164.77.163.133] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubun [ircap751@164.77.163.133] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === author [~author@p50906F72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author is now known as author_afk [08:23] Riddell: ping === author_afk is now known as author [08:55] http://stream.moulticast.net:8060 <- Radio [09:02] tvo: hi [09:03] tvo: index.docbook files shouldn't be compressed [09:03] somehow there is a compressed index.docbook in the .deb I have here [09:03] and I have no clue as of why it is compressed [09:04] I've been trying to figure it out, but no success yet [09:06] Riddell: maybe you've got an idea what to check.. === JRe [~Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] Riddell: and the good news: I've almost got a patch for hidden files into KDE [09:09] (see kde-devel) [09:09] (mailinglist, that is) [09:12] has you fixxed the "media://" problem? or what did "hidden files" mean? [09:16] author: with hidden files I meant KDE didn't allow files to be hidden except dotfiles [09:17] author: I created a patch which allows kioslaves to add an UDS_HIDDEN entry to override the (absence of) the leading dot [09:17] oh sorry [09:17] np [09:18] my english wants to be better ;) [09:18] hehe. I'm not a native english speaker too :) [09:20] but yours is better then my [09:24] Riddell: you still there? [09:24] tvo: no idea why it's gzipped [09:24] it's weird [09:25] that's what I thought. I tried building it with scons, mini-scons, but no gzipped file [09:26] are there any newer versions of mini-scons? [09:26] I don't know, but it shouldn't matter anyway since the scons-mini.tar.bz2 is included in the source package [09:27] I'll ask ita as soon as he comes online === OculusAquilae [~bastian@p548D0DBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:31] Install file: "doc/en/index.docbook" as "debian/kio-locate/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio-locate/index.docbook" [09:31] ^^ in build log [09:32] -rw-r--r-- root/root 2484 2005-07-15 21:56:22 ./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kio-locate/index.docbook.gz [09:33] it's somewhere between lines 846 and 948 in build log (i386) [09:34] it's dh_compress [09:38] DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE=.docbook [09:38] that's the trick [09:39] however it should be an article not a book and part of kioslaves manual [09:41] ah ok [09:42] article as in only one page instead of 2 or 3? [09:42] dunno, I was just quoting lauri :) [09:43] look at other kioslaves [09:43] I assume it's the docbook
rather than [09:43] ok, I'll play a bit with it, see what happens [09:44] I also noticed all kioslaves index.docbooks are together in 1 directory [09:45] yeah, but I assume there's a way to do it outwith that [09:45] ask on #kde-docs if you get stuck [09:46] yup, ok, I'll do [09:47] did you see the uds_hidden.diff patch? [09:48] "I like the patch" from dfaure. that's a good sign :) [09:49] yeah that's what I thought too, certainly the "I commit it" part ;) [09:49] but I've to get it tested / test it first [09:50] how difficult is it to test it by myself? [09:51] is it backwards compatable somehow or will existing ioslaves suddenly show all files until they're modified to use uds_hidden? [09:51] backwards compatible [09:51] how does that work? [09:52] there's an isHidden() function. INstead of only looking at the dot, it now checks for the m_hidden member, [09:52] which can be Auto, Hide or Show [09:52] Auto is the default, if m_hidden == Auto it fall through to the dot-checking code [09:53] if UDS_HIDDEN is given m_hidden is set to Hide or Show depending on value in m_long of the UDSAtom [09:53] true = Hide, false = Show [09:53] so essentially UDS_HIDDEN overrides the dot or the absence thereof [09:53] clever clever [09:54] thanks. (I didn't feel like modifying all ioslaves :) [09:57] so, how difficult is it to test it by myself (= compiling KDE I suppose?). [10:08] not tricky, just time consuming [10:08] hmm ok, how long do you estimate compile time on an 800 MHz Amd Duron? [10:08] get kdelibs 3.5 branch from SVN [10:08] couple of hours? [10:09] writing a patch without testing it :) that's pretty impressive [10:09] ok that's not too bad [10:10] well writing it not me thinks, rather writing a patch without testing, which has no bugs at all when finally tested ;) [10:11] I'll test tomorrow, my PC is too noisy to keep it on while sleeping [10:12] for more pretty output use unsermake -p [10:12] that has a little % indicator [10:12] that's cool [10:13] very [10:15] Riddell: a new kio-locate release should be finished before 11th isn't it? [10:16] or are you delaying kubuntu release if KDE 3.5 is not yet released? [10:16] http://jrepin.blogspot.com/2005/07/jlps-kde-35-previews-part-1.html [10:16] amazing screens [10:16] from kde 3.5 [10:17] 11th is feature freeze, but kio-slave is still in universe [10:17] "Stability of this prebeta version is very good." [10:17] I should hassle the authorities to get it into main before then [10:18] tvo: no, we can't delay breezy alas [10:18] but 3.5 should be in backports [10:19] if Mez agrees :) [10:19] ok, was just checking.. [10:22] yeah, it's a shame === allee [~ach@dialin-212-144-131-208.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:31] Riddell, if you can help me make it possible for both [10:33] without the C++ transition it should be a lot easier === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:15] Riddell, yes, but - are you on about bp'ing to hoary or breezy