[12:00] <cloudr> ok, will have to put partition magic on a floppy, thanks anyway
[12:00] <crashd> almost got gnome and metacity acting to my wants :] 
[12:00] <Eddie> I need some help installing KDE on Ubuntu, and I can't get kubuntu because my cd-rom doesn't seem to work
[12:00] <crashd> Eddie: you tried adding `kde` via synaptic?
[12:00] <crashd> that should get all the necessaries
[12:00] <Ju1ce> mgorbach228: I installed the ati fgrlx drivers and I had to remove them. Ati support for Linux sucks.
[12:00] <Eddie> I'm new to linux so I have no clue how to install it
[12:00] <ofer0> im making a howto for installing ubuntu for total newbies. with pictures. is anything like that exists?
[12:01] <crashd> Eddie: open up system > administration > synpatic package manager
[12:01] <mindmedic> ofer0, thats a great idea
[12:01] <crashd> pm then ;)
[12:02] <ofer0> it will be ready in something like an hour
[12:02] <shido> ok the conexant is installed...
[12:02] <Ju1ce> Eddie: Open terminal and type:"apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[12:02] <Ju1ce> * sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <mindmedic> mgorbach228, its called fglrx, maybe you wrote it that way in xorg.conf and it doesnt work
[12:02] <crashd>  or do what Ju1ce says ;)
[12:02] <carlson> is there any good console text editor (except vi) on the default distribution?
[12:02] <mindmedic> what error message does the x server give you
[12:02] <crashd> carlson: nano
[12:02] <carlson> crashd, is the same as pico?
[12:02] <ofer0> nano is a free version of pico, that went commercial
[12:03] <crashd> carlson: is tasty :] 
[12:03] <crashd> i like nano/pico
[12:03] <crashd> it just works
[12:03] <carlson> well... but nano isnt actually a good text editor , right?
[12:03] <crashd> well
[12:03] <Dr_Melectaus> Does anyone here no of any Radio DJ'ing software compatable with shoutcast servers?
[12:03] <crashd> as i say, i like it
[12:03] <crashd> im not a vi/vim man
[12:03] <carlson> well, i will try to like it like you Crashd lol
[12:03] <crashd> ; )
[12:03] <Dashiva> it's not a good programming editor, just a general text kind of thing
[12:03] <ofer0> carlson, nano is good for editing files. for writing programs and scripts, use vim
[12:03] <crashd> vim is more powerful, but its just a pain in the as
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Anyone know about freedom toaster?
[12:04] <crashd> id agree that for scripting and coding vim is better
[12:04] <crashd> but i use nano for everyday text stuff
[12:04] <shido> ok , its fining the stations now....
[12:04] <shido> but the audio is all white noise
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Can someone become a frnachise of Freedom Toaster?
[12:05] <ompaul> DaSkreech, http://www.freedomtoaster.org/?q=node/17
[12:06] <petteri> Hello
[12:06] <lurah> hi'
[12:06] <avanspronsen> hi petteri
[12:07] <crashd> hmm
[12:07] <crashd> kubuntu-desktop is a backport?
[12:07] <petti> wow, tomorrow I get to try my new kernel :)
[12:07] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Sorry whatsthat link for?
[12:07] <LinuxJones> crashd, no
[12:07] <petteri> Can I get some help :) I have installed xmms now, but when i'm trying to listen mp3 file xmms just crash, stops, and nothing happens. What can be wrong?
[12:07] <crashd>  strange
[12:07] <crashd> doesnt appear in Eddie's package list when he does apt-get
[12:07] <dave123> hi folks, why dont i have latex and why i cant find it using package manager ? :|
[12:08] <crashd> can someone else guide him through it, i have to jet off now :\
[12:08] <crashd> he's trying to get kde up in ubuntu
[12:08] <crashd> or convert his hoary into kubuntu
[12:08] <LinuxJones> crashd, maybe someone added some different (popular) dependencies to that particular package
[12:08] <crashd> whatever works i guess
[12:08] <lurah> http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=1645
[12:09] <Blissex> dave123: because the LaTeX  package is not called 'latex'
[12:09] <lurah> petteri. sama ongelma =)
[12:09] <Blissex> dave123: consider using 'apt-cache search latex' for example.
[12:09] <petteri> lurah et oo keksiny mitn?
[12:09] <petteri> Miten lhtis toimiin
[12:09] <crashd> anyone to help Eddie please?
[12:09] <Blissex> For Kubuntu conversion, best thing is to go to #Kubuntu
[12:09] <lurah> mul taitaa olla nikortin vaihto ko ei kerneli diggaa mun vanhaa isa vylst
[12:09] <crashd> Blissex: he's using ubuntu hoary and wants to get kde up
[12:09] <dave123> Blissex: hi, thanks, so how would i install it using apt-get? whats the name?
[12:10] <petteri> Skandit toimii
[12:10] <crashd> without reinstalling to kubuntu, due to cd problems
[12:10] <lurah> hehe'
[12:10] <avanspronsen> Eddie: di you try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"?
[12:10] <lurah> charset iso-8859-1
[12:10] <petteri> Kuitenkin, itellani toi on servuna tos ollu ilman x:, ja nyt pistin x:n ja nin pois pin ja installoin apt-get install xmms ja nyt pistn xmms:t pelaan niin pam, jk jk eik tapahdu mitn :P
[12:10] <lurah> lol
[12:10] <Blissex> crashd: Eddie: there is no such thing as a reinstall to Kubuntu -- Kubuntu is just a name
[12:10] <crashd> avanspronsen: yeah he did
[12:10] <crashd> what i mean is Blissex
[12:10] <crashd> is to get kde up
[12:10] <avanspronsen> crashd: that didn't work?
[12:10] <crashd> without someone suggesting 'install kubntu instead, it's be easier'
[12:10] <crashd> avanspronsen: no
[12:10] <lurah> petteri. paha sanoo, koeta foorumilta jeesi
[12:11] <crashd> cant find the package
[12:11] <Blissex> dave123: have you tried 'apt-cache search latex'?
[12:11] <dave123> Blissex: sure did, like a million things come out
[12:11] <petti> my experiences of xmms.. are bad. go for something else :)
[12:11] <petteri> :P
[12:11] <Blissex> dave123: and one of those has a nice description that says ''its me, its me'' :-)
[12:11] <shido> any zapping users?
[12:12] <frito> can someone give me a hand trying to mount a drive?
[12:12] <dave123> Blissex: hahaha :) thanks, i will go through them
[12:12] <lurah> my experiences with es18xx and ubuntu are bad...but ill stick on ubuntu...i just need money for new soundcard :D
[12:12] <Blissex> dave123: howeve,r basically you got to install the 'tetex' packages./
[12:12] <HiddenWolf> can someone here piont me to a quick howto on routing an entire x session/screen to another pc?
[12:12] <crashd> HiddenWolf: export the screen from the remote box to the ip
[12:12] <crashd> essentially
[12:12] <crashd> erk, im late
[12:12] <dave123> Blissex: got it :) thank you so much
[12:14] <ompaul> DaSkreech, a freedom toaster is what the link was for
[12:14] <Syco54645> um if i want to login to this box remotely with ssh, what password do i use?
[12:14] <crashd> Syco54645: your username and password
[12:14] <Syco54645> on the live cd that is
[12:14] <dave123> Blissex: sorry, one more Q, there is base, bin, doc , and extra, which ones do i need? :| sorry for being such a noob
[12:14] <Blissex> let me repeat: Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with the KDE packages installed. It is the very same thing, just wiht a different set of packages installed by default. It is not a variant or another distribution.
[12:14] <Blissex> dave123: 'base' should be enough.
[12:14] <crashd> Blissex: i know
[12:14] <crashd> thats not my point
[12:15] <rapha> Evening
[12:15] <Syco54645> because i cant even change the password on the live cd with passwd
[12:15] <dave123> Blissex: thank you
[12:15] <crashd> the guy just wants KDE installed, and is having some trouble
[12:15] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Right. I wanted to more or less deply them across the caribbean. Do I just have to plead with the Shuttleworth foundation to do that or can I negotiate some agreement
[12:15] <rapha> Is it possible to set a system-wide umask default for all users?
[12:15] <Blissex> rapha: more or less, depends.
[12:15] <rapha> Blissex: what is more and what is less? :-)
[12:15] <Blissex> rapha: easiest way is to put some 'umask ...' line in the shared '/etc/profile.
[12:16] <rapha> Blissex: Will that also be used by Nautilus and so on?
[12:16] <Blissex> rapha: alternative, use the relevant PAM module (cant remember which one).
[12:16] <Suepahfly> is there a opera package for ubuntu?
[12:16] <Blissex> rapha: the 'umask' is injherited by all processes descended by the 'login' process.
[12:16] <Blissex> Suepahfly: use the Debiasn ones, the statically linked ones.
[12:16] <rapha> Blissex: okay, thanks
[12:17] <Suepahfly> ah ok
[12:17] <ompaul> DaSkreech, plead your case - poke around the site and see what is there for you as a guidlines
[12:18] <Syco54645> nvm problem solved i just did an add user
[12:18] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Ok Thanks
[12:18] <codecaine> does anyone use the file sharing program nicotine?
[12:19] <rapha> Blissex: It appears the umask setting doesn't use the same (octal?) mask that chmod does. Where can I read up on how this one works, respectively, what would 660 be?
[12:19] <LinuxJones> rapha, it's reversed :D
[12:20] <rapha> LinuxJones: thanks!
[12:20] <Blissex> rapha: the 'umask' value is the _complement_ of the permnissions.
[12:20] <LinuxJones> rapha, jsut to make things even more confusing :)
[12:20] <crashd> hehe, octects suck
[12:20] <rapha> ...
[12:20] <rapha> Hmmm
[12:20] <rapha> umask 0000; touch blah ... gives -rw-rw-rw- ... *confused*
[12:21] <rapha> What do I have to set it to, if I want to get -rw-rw----?
[12:21] <housetier> umask has a symbolic mode
[12:22] <housetier> umask -S ug=rwx,o=rw
[12:22] <rapha> Aaah!
[12:22] <housetier> or was it -p ?
[12:22] <rapha> Thanks housetier
[12:23] <Blissex> rapha: with 'umask' you cannot force permissions to be enabled, but you can only _disable_ them.
[12:24] <rapha> Blissex: well, I want files by default to be zero for "other" and "whatever" for group and user
[12:24] <rapha> Ah
[12:24] <Blissex> rapha: that would be 'umask 0007'
[12:24] <rapha> Got it!
[12:24] <rapha> 0117
[12:24] <rapha> Hmm
[12:24] <rapha> You say 0007
[12:24] <rapha> Ah
[12:24] <rapha> Because of the executable stuff, right?
[12:25] <Blissex> rapha: they could well be executable...
[12:25] <housetier> erm ok dont use the symbolic modes
[12:25] <rapha> :-)
[12:25] <housetier> its only so much easier
[12:25] <DaSkreech> Anyone built LDAP from scratch?
[12:25] <luminerd> Is there a command line to a) download a file, and b) burn to a disk?
[12:25] <rapha> 0007 is fine. Lot like James Bond :)
[12:25] <ekimus> luminerd: wget cdrecord
[12:25] <DaSkreech> luminerd: wget cdrecord
[12:25] <ekimus> ha! :)
[12:25] <Ju1ce> a) wget
[12:26] <rapha> But when I set the umask in /etc/profile to 0007 that will give a lot of problems with system software and stuff, right?
[12:26] <shido> what port does esd use
[12:26] <shido> ?
[12:26] <luminerd> ekimus, ok so wget (url to download) (place to dl to) ?
[12:26] <DaSkreech> use cdrdao :)
[12:26] <luminerd> and DaSkreech cdrecord (file to record)?
[12:26] <DaSkreech> man wget
[12:26] <crashd> is kubuntu-desktop a package in 4.01?
[12:27] <ekimus> luminerd: wget http://some.server/file
[12:27] <DaSkreech>  cdrecord device=/dev/cdrecorder path/to/file/ -eject
[12:27] <foxiness> no
[12:27] <Vjaz> I'd say no, because Kubuntu came about at the same time as 5.04
[12:27] <DaSkreech> Anyone use OPEN LDAP?
[12:27] <crashd> thatd be why Eddie cant get kubuntu-desktop then
[12:27] <Vjaz> there's no 4.01 actually. it's 4.10
[12:27] <crashd> well, whatever
[12:27] <crashd> you know what i meant
[12:27] <Vjaz> well yeah
[12:27] <rapha> Blissex: so where do I set umask for only a specific user?
[12:27] <crashd> ; )
[12:27] <ekimus> luminerd: and for cdrecord you'll also need mkisofs to make an iso and then burn it. best to play around for about an hour then you'll know all the stuff and can easily make a script
[12:27] <terrex> hi people, does sb know how-to install hoary from cd, but when the bios does not support boot from cd?
[12:28] <crashd> can you update Warty to Hoary easily?
[12:28] <Blissex> rapha: in his own '~/.profile' or similar.
[12:28] <LinuxJones> rapha, honestly it's best not to mess about with umask system wide.
[12:28] <luminerd> ekimus, not cool
[12:28] <luminerd> that sounds very confusing
[12:28] <rapha> Blissex: okay, thanks
[12:28] <luminerd> I refuse to play for an hour
[12:28] <terrex> is there any floppies to boot?
[12:28] <luminerd> the thing I want to burn is an ISO for a different distro
[12:28] <luminerd> I am utterly sick of ubuntu
[12:28] <luminerd> I do not have an hour anyway
[12:28] <topyli> terrex: no floppies
[12:28] <Stormx> Hey everyone, I'm back
[12:28] <LinuxJones> luminerd, what is wrong ?
[12:28] <luminerd> these need to be set up last wednesday!  but I get several extensions now it's this monday!!!
[12:28] <ekimus> luminerd: no not confusing just powerful 1) download the file 2) if it's not already an iso create one 3) cdrecord the iso file
[12:29] <rapha> luminerd, why don't you just right-click the iso file?
[12:29] <foxiness> terrex, is the pc can not boot from cd ?
[12:29] <topyli> terrex: install debian woody and upgrade :)
[12:29] <Stormx> luminerd: What's the problem?
[12:29] <luminerd> LinuxJones, my mouse does not work, don't bother to trouble shoot me I guarantee you won't be able to fix it.
[12:29] <luminerd> ekimus, ok, great
[12:29] <terrex> is there floppy for debian?
[12:29] <rapha> Okay thanks dudes
[12:29] <luminerd> rapha, because my mouse won't work
[12:29] <luminerd> Stormx, mouse still won't work
[12:29] <foxiness> terrex, is this 486 ?
[12:29] <ekimus> luminerd: drawback of command line is you have to get into the docs a bit
[12:29] <LinuxJones> luminerd, I am sure it can be made to work
[12:29] <rapha> luminerd: can still use the keyboard's context menu key
[12:29] <Stormx> luminerd: Why don't you just get another mouse, a non-PS2 mouse.
[12:29] <luminerd> ekimus, I can't
[12:29] <terrex> yes, pentium III
[12:29] <luminerd> no time
[12:30] <rapha> bbl
[12:30] <topyli> terrex: yes, and woody is old enough so the system should be completely upgraded when you "upgrade" to ubuntu
[12:30] <luminerd> LinuxJones, no, it cannot.  ubuntu will not allow it.
[12:30] <shido> what port does esd use?
[12:30] <luminerd> Stormx, because I am NOT going to spend $200 on mice when I already have mice!  I have a free solution: get away from ubuntu and NEVER use it again!
[12:30] <terrex> okey thanks to everyone
[12:31] <LinuxJones> luminerd, what kind of mouse is it ?
[12:31] <Stormx> luminerd: tried editting /etc/modules?
[12:31] <luminerd> topyli, no, $10 mice for 20 systems
[12:31] <Stormx> I think he is buying a lot of mouse, topyli
[12:31] <topyli> ah
[12:31] <luminerd> LinuxJones, no, it can't be fixed, I am here for instructions on getting a file and burning it only
[12:32] <Stormx> luminerd: tried editting /etc/modules?
[12:32] <LinuxJones> luminerd, ok if you open nautilus and right click you can burn a .iso file from there
[12:32] <Ju1ce> I have a cheap Logitech mouse and it works perfectly.
[12:32] <luminerd> and I doubt I could get them for $10 anyway, be more like $250-300 in reality
[12:32] <Stormx> ROFL LINUX JONES!
[12:32] <luminerd> Stormx, no need, correct modules are loaded
[12:32] <luminerd> LinuxJones, dude...I CAN"T CLICK!
[12:32] <Stormx> XD
[12:32] <Stormx> ROFL!
[12:32] <topyli> luminerd: oh, i just scrolled up, sorry
[12:32] <LinuxJones> luminerd, lol
[12:32] <luminerd> -_-
[12:33] <Stormx> Well, try talking to Seveas
[12:33] <luminerd> where does wget go to?
[12:33] <Stormx> he seems to be the man of the moment.
[12:33] <luminerd> if Seveas is not here right this minute I am not interested
[12:33] <ekimus> luminerd: the directory where you are
[12:33] <luminerd> I have no more time to meddle
[12:33] <Doonz> hey guys im trying to get proftpd to change what port its on. its changed in the config. ive restarted it but its still is on port 21
[12:33] <luminerd> ekimus, excellent
[12:33] <luminerd> thank you
[12:33] <ompaul> luminerd, what make and model of mouse are these?
[12:33] <Blissex> luminerd: funny question, but the current directory is an answer
[12:33] <flodine> can someone help me i cant open synaptic in fluxbox
[12:33] <blakamin> ok... can anyone help with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54593&page=1&pp=10
[12:33] <luminerd> ompaul, doesn't matter.
[12:34] <Stormx> It shouldn't matter.
[12:34] <flodine> anyone running flux
[12:34] <crashd> flodine: tried opening a terminal and typing: sudo synaptic
[12:34] <ompaul> luminerd, well actually it does, one should document to (A) get it fixed or (B) not use them
[12:34] <ekimus> flodine: me (but not on ubuntu)
[12:35] <flodine> i can open synaptic with a terminal  but not a icon
[12:35] <flodine> why
[12:35] <crashd> flodine: is there an icon in flux for it ?
[12:35] <luminerd> ompaul, B is not an option, and A cannot be achieved with debian!
[12:35] <crashd> that could be a problem ;)
[12:35] <luminerd> Therefore Debian/ubuntu is out of the question
[12:35] <Blissex> blakamin: read http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 and follow its troubleshooting steps
[12:35] <ompaul> luminerd, not for you for others who use debian
[12:35] <Blissex> blakamin: also, ask in #ALSA after that
[12:35] <LinuxJones> luminerd, open nautilus >> hilight the .iso >> hit alt + edit arrow down to write to disk.
[12:35] <ompaul> luminerd, not for you for others who use or ubuntu
[12:36] <LinuxJones> luminerd, sorry make that hit alt + e (edit menu)
[12:36] <blakamin> blissex: thanks, will do!
[12:36] <Stormx> Hmm
[12:36] <luminerd> ompaul, huh?!
[12:36] <Stormx> well luminerd: You are pretty stuffed ;-)
[12:36] <luminerd> LinuxJones, wats wrong with cdrecord?
[12:36] <luminerd> Stormx, huh?
[12:37] <Stormx> luminerd: What are you gonna do, install Gentoo or something?
[12:37] <ompaul> luminerd, if you have a mouse that will not work with Ubuntu / Debian / other it would be nice for others to know to aviod that mouse
[12:37] <ompaul> luminerd, or at least to be aware that they may have a problem
[12:37] <Stormx> ompaul, it doesn't matter what kind of mouse it is!
[12:37] <Stormx> Its a PS2 mouse!
[12:37] <Stormx> thats all that matters!
[12:38] <LinuxJones> luminerd, if you know how to use cdrecord why were you asking how to burn a .iso of mandrive or whatever ?
[12:38] <luminerd> Stormx, yea right, I'll probably be forced to go with mandriva or something crappy
[12:38] <Stormx> luminerd: they arn't that crappy, ya know ;-)
[12:38] <luminerd> LinuxJones, I thought it was just cdrecord linuxfile.iso?
[12:38] <ekimus> luminerd: are you just flaming or honestly trying _not_ to solve the mouse problem?
[12:38] <Stormx> luminerd: Fedora Core is nice ;-) Thats well supported, reliable, etc.
[12:39] <topyli> bah
[12:39] <Qerub> I'm using Hoary; how should I mount a vfat partition to get the Swedish letters right in Nautilus? iocharset, codepage something?
[12:39] <Stormx> ekimus: he's tried everything.
[12:39] <Blissex> Qerub: yes, that kind of thing, plus make sure you got the 'xterm' or wherever to use the proper charset too.
[12:39] <QMario> Hello everyone! :)
[12:39] <Stormx> Hey QMario!
[12:40] <luminerd> ekimus, I am NOT going to solve it.  I am _DONE_ with Ubuntu.  Period.  Yes, I'm angry, but I have already made my decision that Ubuntu is out of the question.  I spent far too long on one thing that should be automatic.
[12:40] <Qerub> Blissex: iocharset should be set to utf-8 right?
[12:40] <QMario> Long time, no see.
[12:40] <luminerd> ekimus, I am only here for support on getting a cd recorded
[12:40] <Blissex> Qerub: I suspect it should be set to cp-1251 or similar.
[12:40] <Qerub> Blissex: Oh, weird. OK, thanks.
[12:41] <Stormx> Yo, does anyone know how to edit the GNOME menu, in the top left?
[12:41] <ekimus> luminerd: ok then cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc nameof.iso if that doesn't work tell me exactly what it said
[12:41] <Stormx> I want to change the way the bits under "places" are launched.
[12:41] <topyli> Qerub: that depends on windows version. up to win98 it's different than with win2k and xp clients
[12:41] <Blissex> Qerub: it is weirder to expect MS-DOS to have been using Unicode :-).
[12:41] <Ju1ce> how old distro is ubuntu?
[12:42] <topyli> Ju1ce: a year or something
[12:42] <Blissex> Ju1ce: depends on what you mean by that -- it is released every six months.
[12:42] <Chaotic_Reality> luminerd, it's not the end of the world if something doesn't work. that's the reality of linux. it gets better all the time, and if this version doesn't work, the next one isn't that far off.
[12:42] <Qerub> topyli, Blissex: The VFAT partition is also used in Windows XP.
[12:42] <Stormx> does anyone know how to edit the GNOME menu, in the top left?
[12:42] <Blissex> Qerub: that does not matter a lot...
[12:43] <Stormx> I want to change the way the bits under "places" are launched.
[12:43] <luminerd> Chaotic_Reality, no, not the end of the world, the end of ubuntu.
[12:43] <luminerd> Chaotic_Reality, the mouse works on all other distros with no problems
[12:43] <Stormx> luminerd is a happy man ^________________________^;;
[12:43] <topyli> Qerub: yeah, but the OS is completely different
[12:43] <luminerd> I don't think you understand what is going on here.
[12:43] <Blissex> Stormx: uhmm, ask in #GNOME and I think the answer is not good.
[12:43] <Ju1ce> Blissex: I mean the first version, when was it released?
[12:43] <luminerd> FC4 is downloading as we speak.
[12:44] <ompaul> luminerd, you could do this and I would like you to tell me the name and model of mouse, I am not going to solve it I amn curious to find out if it is a common problem, then the community can action it maybe, but not telling well that is no use to the rest of us who could all have broken mice tomorrow and buy that one and be as angry as you are now - ohh the command   cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/cdrom0 some.iso (where cdrom0 is the burner)
[12:44] <luminerd> I am _DONE_ with Ubuntu.  I am not here to have someone try to talk me out of it.  My mind is made.  Ubuntu is out of the question.  I also have a low opinion of it.  This is a ridiculous mess which obviously reflects the poorness of the distro.
[12:44] <Blissex> Ju1ce: a bit over a year ago, there have been two releases so far.
[12:44] <topyli> Ju1ce: april 2004
[12:44] <blakamin> blissex: had a quick look and everything seems configured as per the link... no sound tho
[12:44] <ekimus> *rofl* you are in #ubuntu downloading fc4 and asking how to get that thing to cd.... *g* funny
[12:44] <Stormx> Blissex - No one is around in #GNOME. 72 users and no activity.
[12:44] <luminerd> ompaul, dude, it doesn't matter what the brand is....it's ps/2 that's all that matters!
[12:45] <Dashiva> luminerd, you wouldn't be talking about it if you didn't want people to care
[12:45] <luminerd> ompaul, I have used multiple mice, same problem
[12:45] <ekimus> luminerd: out of interest 2 buttons wheel, and nothing more?
[12:45] <luminerd> Dashiva, I was asked
[12:45] <Blissex> blakamin: then you are missing some mixer setting to enable output, like digital vs. analog.
[12:45] <topyli> luminerd: you are on the wrong network. gnome stuff happens on gimpnet mostly
[12:45] <luminerd> you know I'm sick of arguing, I will come back if I have any problems with wget or cdrecord.
[12:45] <Dashiva> lol
[12:45] <Dashiva> what a tool
[12:45] <Blissex> blakamin: what does 'aplay -l' print?
[12:46] <Ju1ce> nice to know. hoary and warty.
[12:46] <ekimus> did anybody acutally findout what kind of mouse he had (besides ps/2)
[12:46] <LinuxJones> luminerd, your statements are bordering on trolling. You refuse help when it was offered then diss Ubuntu. If you don't like it that's fine but please don't come in here and whine when you refuse help.
[12:46] <ompaul> and that ladies and gentlement was a troll imho
[12:46] <mindmedic> luminerd, sorry that you didnt like ubuntu. have fun..
[12:46] <blakamin> blissex: **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:46] <blakamin> card 0: CS4281 [Cirrus Logic CS4281] , device 0: CS4281 [CS4281] 
[12:46] <blakamin>   Subdevices: 0/1
[12:46] <blakamin>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:46] <ompaul> luminerd - has left the channel
[12:46] <topyli> ompaul: i agree
[12:47] <LinuxJones> ompaul, good
[12:47] <Blissex> blakamin: thats pretty good.
[12:47] <Stormx> ekimus: He had a limited budget and had bought 20 mice. He wasn't going to buy any more.
[12:47] <manni> hi guys i just installed ubuntu yesterday never used linux in my 12 years of windows i am enjoying it i have a few questions if thats ok
[12:47] <Dashiva> blakamin, what are you trying to do
[12:47] <topyli> apt-get install sleep
[12:47] <Blissex> manni: ask semi-detailed questions...
[12:47] <blakamin> blissex: get any sound to happen
[12:47] <LinuxJones> Stormx, who would buy 20 ps2 mice when you can buy a usb mouse probably cheaper ?
[12:48] <manni> ok in windows i use flash fxp to get to a ftp site it uses secure ssl but gftp wont let me connect any ideas what i should be doing
[12:48] <shanachienz> hi all - anyone here able to help me with getting a linksys wireless PCMCIA card configured in my laptop?
[12:48] <ompaul> back in an hour or two
[12:48] <shanachienz> I have been reading the forums and am mostly there
[12:48] <shanachienz> just stuck on thefinal config I believe
[12:48] <mindmedic> ohh, 20 mice ragdoll kung fu.
[12:48] <Qerub> topyli, Blissex: So... What should I do figure out the right values for codepage and iocharset?
[12:48] <ekimus> btw. what's the native macosx network sharing (like smb for windows) and is there a server available for linux?
[12:48] <blakamin> blissex: everything seems configured, but no sound!! I want to have sound so i can get rid of XP
[12:48] <Blissex> blakamin: what does 'dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8000 count=1 | aplay -D plughw:0,0' say?
[12:49] <Blissex> blakamin: also, have you got any sound app running? Like a sound daemon like 'esd'>
[12:49] <ekimus> Blissex: if that command acutally says something i wanna get a grab on the box that spits out sentences from /dev/urandom :)
[12:49] <amblin> ekimus: AFP is the apple equiv so smb, netatalk will server AFP, but you probably should stick to smb
[12:50] <blakamin> blissex: tried various sound apps... nothing! trying your script now
[12:50] <Blissex> ekimus: :-)
[12:50] <cafuego> amblin: smb and osx10.4 aren't very good friends
[12:50] <ekimus> amblin: why is it bad implemented or something?
[12:50] <amblin> 10.04 just wants encrypted passwords, no?
[12:50] <cefx> Is ATI always such a bitch to configure in X on Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Blissex> cefx: not just on Ubuntu...
[12:51] <cafuego> ekimus: When you're sharing osx/linux, I suggest you go with NFS. Far more mature and stable than anything else.
[12:51] <ekimus> cefx: no ati is a bitch on every distro :)
[12:51] <cafuego> amblin: I have encrypted password; it just doesn't connect (at all)
[12:51] <catolh> Can i use "engage" with gnome?
[12:51] <blakamin> blissex: no reply
[12:51] <Blissex> blakamin: so it just works, but no sound comes out?
[12:52] <Imsdle> does anyone know how to share a dialup internet connection using a ethernet card
[12:52] <Blissex> blakamin: as in, you get back the shell prompt?
[12:52] <Blissex> Imsdle: yes.
[12:52] <blakamin> blissex: as far as i know...
[12:52] <blakamin> blissex:nothing in the shell
[12:53] <Blissex> blakamin: what does nothing mean?
[12:53] <lurah> nn
[12:53] <cafuego> There's a shareware tool for OSX called 'NFS Manager' to help you set up automount NFS shares in OSX. it works great.
[12:53] <blakamin> blissex: no prompt, nothing
[12:53] <Blissex> blakamin: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:53] <LinuxJones> Imsdle, an easy way to share internet is installing firestarter
[12:53] <Blissex> blakamin: then it is one of the cases in thr troubleshooting, I shall have to clarify
[12:53] <ofer0> who has more pakacges in APT? debian or ubuntu?
[12:53] <amblin> cafuego: we've had a big issue with tiger connecting to our univ share.. the "fix" was properly encrypted passwords "security = user" in smb.conf
[12:54] <Imsdle> tyied that.. doesn't seem to work.... comes up with can't start firewall
[12:54] <blakamin> blissex:ok!
[12:54] <Blissex> blakamin: that means the card can only be used by one sound app at a time, and all others have to wait until the current one is finished.
[12:54] <cafuego> amblin: yeah, I've got that set up... not sure what the issue with it is.
[12:54] <LinuxJones> ofer0, I think debian has a few more
[12:54] <Blissex> blakamin: some in that same page look at the ''sharing'' section.
[12:54] <ekimus> Blissex: dmix is the way for him then :)
[12:55] <cefx> Why do I have 5 users?
[12:55] <MikeW> How large does the BOOT partition have to be? I gather thats where grub gets installed to.
[12:55] <amblin> cafuego: it's not so nice when you have a few thousand mac users screaming at you because they can't connect to a resource anymore :-)
[12:55] <Blissex> blakamin: that section has a link to a very nice generic '/etc/asound.conf' that sets up all the magic for sharing, as ekimus says
[12:55] <cafuego> amblin: Just goes to show how shit MS protocols are ;-)
[12:55] <shanachienz> hi again - anyone here able to help with configuration/activation of wlan linksys card
[12:55] <cafuego> MikeW:You normally don't need one at all.
[12:56] <ekimus> cefx: what do you mean having 5 users. logged in atm or what?
[12:56] <blakamin> blissex: I have no /etc/asound.conf file... which is confusing me
[12:56] <amblin> cafuego: yeah no kidding... im trying to get everyone to go AFS and be done with it
[12:56] <cafuego> amblin: nfs! nfs!
[12:56] <Blissex> MikeW: it also contains the kernel boot images, which can be 1MB to 3MB, my current '/boot' is roughly 20MB.
[12:56] <Blissex> cafuego: NFS is terrible, currently SMB/CIFS with Posix extensions is a lot better... But it is just a taste
[12:57] <Blissex> blakamin: that you don't have '/etc/asound.conf' is probably why sharing is not enabled.
[12:57] <amblin> cafuego: the linux nfs implementation blows, heh
[12:57] <MikeW> cafuego: My mobo doesn't support large drives. I can't boot into ubuntu - grub keeps throwing 'Error 18'. So I've set the bios to see my hdd as LBA 512mb. And I think I'll create a really small partition at the start for boot stuff
[12:57] <blakamin> blissex:  can you link the link... sorry to be a pain... 36 hours and 3 installs to get this sound prob... i feel like &*(
[12:57] <cafuego> Blissex: It's a lot fatser than AFP here; only thing is you need user mode nfs with uid mapping (well, I did anyway due to legacy accounts)
[12:57] <Qerub> topyli, Blissex: codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8 worked. Thanks for your help.
[12:57] <blakamin> blissex: cool
[12:58] <Blissex> blakamin: do this: cd /etc && wget -N http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/asound.conf
[12:58] <MikeW> cafuego, Blissex: should the first partition be mounted as / or /boot for grub?
[12:58] <Blissex> blakamin: after that, logout and login again.
[12:58] <sml> could somebody please please help with my WLAN
[12:58] <cefx> ekimus: In uptime.
[12:58] <cafuego> MikeW: If it's at the start of the disk, you don't need /boot at all. Just go with /
[12:58] <sml> i have lost my whole week trying to get it to work :(
[12:58] <cefx>  19:51:22 up 2 days, 20:53,  5 users,  load average: 0.12, 0.52, 0.56
[12:58] <carlson> i have a doubt! The Synaptic packages can only be use to update / install softwares by the net or there is a way to install download .deb or .rpm packages using it?
[12:58] <frederr> hi, how can i install mplayer?
[12:59] <MikeW> cafuego: okay, then for my ubuntu install partition, that should be /boot?
[12:59] <Blissex> MikeW: however as a rule nowadays you dont need a separate '/boot', unless your BIOS is old and your disk is new.
[12:59] <cafuego> MikeW: /boot is a workaround for shitty boot loaders a couple of years ago.
[12:59] <blakamin> blissex: cheers! will give it  a go
[12:59] <rob^> where are the HTML versions of man pages stored on the system?
[12:59] <sml> the WLAN can be activated but i am having problems with the connection
[12:59] <audio3> <- uhm...n00b 4 pureftpd help
[12:59] <Blissex> sml: please ask detailed questions
[12:59] <cafuego> MikeW: Just tell ubuntu to set 'em up automagically.
[12:59] <carlson> i have a doubt! The Synaptic packages can only be use to update / install softwares by the net or there is a way to install download .deb or .rpm packages using it?
[12:59] <Blissex> audio3: please ask detailed questions.
[12:59] <cafuego> Blissex: Stop repeating
[12:59] <MikeW> cafuego: I tried that 5 times, I can never boot into it
[12:59] <Blissex> carlson: please dont repeat questions more often than about every 5 mins
[01:00] <MikeW> cafuego: it took up the whole hdd with its 2 partitions, it still wouldn't boot
[01:00] <cafuego> MikeW: Are you sharing that disk with another os?
[01:00] <cafuego> Odd.
[01:00] <Blissex> carlson: the answer is ''yes'' :-)
[01:00] <MikeW> cafuego: completely blank brand new hdd
[01:00] <MikeW> cafuego: no other os
[01:00] <sml> my WLAN can be activated but i cannot establish the connection correctly.
[01:00] <Blissex> sml: more details...
[01:00] <cafuego> MikeW: Then go with /boot (first) - in between 20 and 50Mb
[01:00] <carlson> Blissex, sorry man, but i am very excitated with my fresh version of ubuntu lol
[01:00] <carlson> Blissex,  and the question is how??
[01:00] <sml> Blissex: dhcp is enabled, using ndiswrapper
[01:00] <Blissex> carlson: people here dont like Ubuntu questions, there is #ubuntu...
[01:01] <cafuego> carlson: It's not recommended to install from download .deb files or CONVERTED rpms. (NEVER EVER install an rpm directly).
[01:01] <Blissex> carlson: the best way would be to set up a local APT repository area, and add that to the '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:01] <MikeW> cafuego: do I set the bootable flag?
[01:01] <sml> iwconfig .. show it is turned on
[01:01] <cafuego> MikeW: Yep
[01:01] <cuqui> hi ya
[01:01] <Blissex> sml: and what exactly fails?
[01:01] <MikeW> thanks. *installs again*
[01:01] <frederr> hi, i cant what DVD, is any thing to fix that?
[01:01] <cafuego> MikeW: Not that it matters much, the boot lader will come from the MBR anyway.
[01:02] <carlson> Blissex, i didnt understand what you d mean with "peoplew here dont like ubuntu questions"
[01:02] <sml> when I activate it takes a long time and I cannot ping
[01:02] <cafuego> MikeW: If you previously had boot probems after installing GRUB, try LILO as well..
[01:02] <mcphail> sml: sudo ifdown eth0 before bringing up wlan0 might help
[01:02] <carlson> Blissex, but thanks you for the tip
[01:02] <sml> i am not using any encyption at this stage
[01:02] <Blissex> carlson: there is a separate channel for Ubuntu related questions.
[01:02] <sml> yes - eth0 was down
[01:02] <Blissex> carlson: wait a sec for a link anyhow.
[01:02] <MikeW> cafuego: I don't know how to set that in the ubuntu installer. I didn't see anywhere to set it
[01:02] <blakamin> blissex: permission denied
[01:02] <Blissex> sml: have you tried 'iwlist scanning'?
[01:02] <frederr> hi, how can i install mplayer please or any other dvd player please
[01:02] <cafuego> MikeW: it should be an option for the bottom in the advances config
[01:03] <carlson> Blissex, well sorry for the question, but the channel topic is "Have a question? Just ask"
[01:03] <sml> Blissex: ill try and come back
[01:03] <Blissex> blakamin: all configuration work should be done as 'root'
[01:03] <cuqui> frederr -> sudo apt-get mplayer
[01:03] <LinuxJones> Blissex, this is #ubuntu :)
[01:03] <signbarn> any idea what this error means?: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libbz2-dev_1.0.2-2ubuntu0.2_i386.deb:  unable to open files list file for package `dash': Input/output error
[01:03] <cuqui> frederr -> sudo apt-get mplayer-nogui
[01:03] <cuqui> even better
[01:03] <signbarn> i get it for every package i try to install
[01:03] <blakamin> was using sudo...
[01:04] <Blissex> LinuxJones: carlson: oops, <cafuego>'s presence had me thinking I was still in #Debian...
[01:04] <LinuxJones> Blissex, :D
[01:04] <cafuego> signbarn: that would normally indicate a disk error.
[01:04] <cafuego> Blissex: I'm furniture here too ;-)
[01:04] <carlson> Blissex, lol, now i am undesrtaning :D
[01:04] <frederr> sudo apt-get mplayer
[01:04] <LinuxJones> Blissex, we like having cafuego around :)
[01:04] <Blissex> carlson: this will tell you all about APT :-) http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[01:04] <hk_> hi
[01:04] <frederr> E: Invalid operation mplayer-nogui
[01:04] <hk_> i got no sound some1 knows how to fix this>?
[01:04] <cuqui> wait
[01:04] <frederr> E: Invalid operation mplayer
[01:04] <carlson> Blissex, my last question: Is there a list of cool web repositories to APT, or whatever can i call it?
[01:05] <LinuxJones> Blissex, we like having cafuego around...except when he smells :)
[01:05] <cuqui> sudo apt-get install mplayer-nogui
[01:05] <cuqui> sorry
[01:05] <cuqui> :P
[01:05] <deviant> hello guys
[01:05] <Blissex> carlson: yes, and they are dangerous, but: http://WWW.apt-get.org/
[01:05] <sml> test
[01:05] <cafuego> MikeW: Hmm, maybe I'm mistaken. The debian one certainly has it, I didn't think the Ubuntu one was that different.
[01:05] <blakamin> blissex: cheers... hard to get used to sudo and root
[01:05] <hk_> emu0k1 somehow seems to haev probs ?
[01:05] <carlson> Blissex,  not so dangerous as I am behind vmware ;)
[01:05] <frederr> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressursen midlertidig utilgjengelig)
[01:05] <LeaChim> i'm trying to enable powernow on my amd 3000, but i get this message from modprobe powernow-k8: FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
[01:05] <LeaChim>  - any ideas?
[01:05] <Blissex> hk_: thanks for imagining we are psychic... But start with tthe troubleshooting section here: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[01:05] <MikeW> hmm, ubuntu tried to install to / and ran out of hdd space :S I thought it would install to /home ?
[01:06] <Stormx> Heya
[01:06] <deviant> i have a problem. after im` creating a symling between a dir in my home_dir and /var/www/ , apache server won`t display it. any sugestions?
[01:06] <Blissex> carlson: also, use 'aptitude' in preference to 'synaptic' if you want to do dangerous things
[01:06] <cafuego> carlson: Those are mainly designed for debian, which now has different libc6 depends, so you may or may not get a slew of depencency errors.
[01:06] <frederr> i cant install any program ;( any one knows why is that?
[01:06] <Blissex> carlson: and look at my sample configu files here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/APT/
[01:06] <hk_> my sound device doesnt work its from creative emu0k1 some1 know how to fix this?!
[01:06] <Stormx> frederr: I'll show you how.
[01:06] <sml> Blissex: brought down eth0, brought up wlan0
[01:06] <carlson> Blissex, well man, thanks a lot for hte help ;)
[01:06] <cafuego> frederr: Are you _sure_ synaptic or update manager aren't running?
[01:06] <Blissex> frederr: we are sorry, but our psychic advisors are all busy on other lines.
[01:06] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[01:07] <fredforfaen> whats up?
[01:07] <cuqui> mobility radeon 9700 se??
[01:07] <hk_> hi] 
[01:07] <sml> Blissex: islist scanning ... no scan results
[01:07] <hk_> my sound device doesnt work its from creative emu0k1 some1 know how to fix this?!
[01:07] <cuqui> any how to?
[01:07] <LeaChim> i'm trying to enable powernow on my amd 3000, but i get this message from modprobe powernow-k8: FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device - any ideas?
[01:07] <Blissex> frederr: also, make sure you are 'root' ('sudo' or logged in) when doing package management.
[01:07] <frederr> yes as a root
[01:07] <Stormx> What error does he get?
[01:07] <Dr_Melectaus> Can someone help me, when i try and play a radio station, or music file with Music player, it crashes
[01:07] <Stormx> frederr: What error do you get?
[01:08] <cafuego> frederr: Are you _sure_ synaptic or update manager aren't running? or apt-get or aptitude in a diffrerent window?
[01:08] <hk_> my sound device doesnt work its from creative emu0k1 some1 know how to fix this?!
[01:08] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: What Music Player are you using?
[01:08] <Blissex> frederr: hk_: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask even better questions...
[01:08] <frederr> cafuego o ok
[01:08] <Dr_Melectaus> Rhythm Box Stormx
[01:08] <sml> Blissex: i have checked the SSID settings
[01:08] <BobaFett> Guys...just a console/quicke: anyone knows the screenshot-taking command in the console? im sure there was one...
[01:08] <hk_> omhg
[01:08] <hk_> my question is not good enough?
[01:08] <sml> Blissex: no encryption
[01:08] <cafuego> frederr: if those are indeed _not_ running, you can delete that lock file by hand.
[01:08] <cuqui> any mobility radeon 9700 se HOWTO over there??? it just got me crazy!
[01:08] <hk_> its claery as hell
[01:08] <Blissex> sml: then evidently something is very wrong... 'iwlist scanning' should be reporting all the radio cells in your neighbourhood.
[01:08] <cafuego> BobaFett: 'import -window root ss.png' (in imagemagick)
[01:09] <DoctorMO_> hello
[01:09] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: Let me have a look. I had a problem with XMMS hanging.
[01:09] <Blissex> sml: and you do not need to bring down 'eth0' to fool around with 'wlan0' or whatever.
[01:09] <Dr_Melectaus> Stormx, if it doesnt crash it will give an error saying "Can not pause Playback"
[01:09] <sml> Blissex: hmmm ok
[01:09] <sml> ahh ok
[01:09] <Dr_Melectaus> thanks Stormx #
[01:09] <deviant> after i`m creating a symling between a dir in my home_dir and /var/www/ , apache server won`t display it. any sugestions?
[01:09] <Dr_Melectaus> - the #
[01:09] <DoctorMO_> I have a problem and an idea of how to solve, I need advice on how to go about the solution.
[01:09] <Blissex> sml: it should report all the cells simply by listening to the radio.
[01:09] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: Does it happen with every file type? Have you tried playing an ogg vorbis?
[01:09] <hk_> (totem:9902): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gsignal.c:1716: signal `got-redirect' is invalid for i nstance `0x831a338'
[01:09] <hk_> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3
[01:09] <Dr_Melectaus> ill see Stormx
[01:09] <blakamin> blissex: still no sound, but now progs say "oss device /dev/dsp in use by another program"
[01:09] <frederr> cafuego how can i do that? please
[01:10] <Stormx> DoctorMO_: What is the problem?
[01:10] <sml> Blisse: :(   it didn't do that :(
[01:10] <Blissex> sml: if 'iwlist scanning' reports nothing, either the driver is not configured right or there is no radio transmissions.
[01:10] <BobaFett> Thanls, cafuego! :)
[01:10] <hk_> (totem:9902): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gsignal.c:1716: signal `got-redirect' is invalid for i nstance `0x831a338'
[01:10] <hk_> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3
[01:10] <hk_>  HELP!:P
[01:10] <Dr_Melectaus> Stormx, crashes with them to
[01:10] <Stormx> hk_ it doesn't understand MPEGs
[01:10] <black13> where would i find the .dsc files for xorg
[01:10] <Blissex> blakamin: unfortunately OSS bu default does not allow sharing. Switch to the native ALSA interface.
[01:10] <hk_> it isnt mpeg
[01:10] <hk_> its mp3
[01:10] <DoctorMO_> the problem is I'm in england, and I need my live cd/dvd to be english-gb and keyboard to be gb too, but it is hard for my users to choose the options, I propose an options menu before boot that can allow you to select which of the more complex commands to use when boot
[01:10] <Stormx> and MP3 is an mpeg
[01:10] <hk_> the whole sound isnt working
[01:11] <Stormx> MP3 Means MPEG Layer 3
[01:11] <Blissex> blakamin: also, rerun the 'dd' command I gave you earlier.
[01:11] <Dr_Melectaus> yes Stormx , same with them
[01:11] <Dr_Melectaus> with everything
[01:11] <Dr_Melectaus> cant play squat in iy
[01:11] <Dr_Melectaus> it**
[01:11] <sml> Blissex: on my wireless adsl router should i enable SSID & WEP?
[01:11] <Blissex> hk_: probably you dont have the MP3 libraries installed.
[01:11] <Dr_Melectaus> other progs work like xmms, beep etc
[01:11] <hk_> hmm
[01:11] <DoctorMO_> some kind of Gui boot menu, I know they exist
[01:11] <sml> Blisex: or leave them off to start with
[01:11] <Stormx> Im not sure how to do it with Helix, but try to swap the output plugin to eSound
[01:11] <Dr_Melectaus> But i want to listen to a radio station
[01:11] <cafuego> frederr: sudo rm var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:11] <Blissex> sml: well, it is better than nothing. But to start with, just leave it wide open.
[01:11] <hk_> well i cant isntall antythinh atm because it says no c compiler found in $PATH
[01:12] <cafuego> hk_: What are you trying to compile?
[01:12] <Dr_Melectaus> Stormx, was that at me? the eSound?
[01:12] <Blissex> hk_: C compilers are not needed for installing.
[01:12] <Stormx> Dr_Melectaus: Try changing the output plugin. Not sure how to do it with helix, I use XMMS myself.
[01:12] <hk_> for exmaple xmms
[01:12] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[01:12] <sml> Blissex: wireless enabled, SSID-disbales, authentication-opensystem, WEP-disabled
[01:12] <cafuego> hk_: Why not just 'apt-get install xmms' ?
[01:12] <frederr> cafuego rm: cannot remove `var/lib/dpkg/lock':
[01:12] <Blissex> hk_: almost everything is already available as a precompiled '.deb'; are you using synaptic?
[01:12] <Stormx> hk_: USE SYNAPTIC!!!!
[01:12] <cafuego> frederr: as root, with sudo
[01:12] <Raf999> is it possible to have my 2nd HDD auto mounted to 'computer' for Ubuntu?
[01:12] <Stormx> Raf999: YES!
[01:12] <hk_> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:12] <cafuego> Stormx: caps
[01:12] <Blissex> sml: that looks good.
[01:12] <frederr> cafuego yes as root
[01:13] <cafuego> hk_: Why not just 'apt-get install xmms' ?
[01:13] <airox> hk_: install one :-)
[01:13] <audio3> I can "see" pureftpd on samba but not on the net..does that mean firewall problem?
[01:13] <Stormx> cafuego: what about them?
[01:13] <cafuego> hk_: Why do you think you need a compiler to install xmms?
[01:13] <Blissex> hk_: you are trying to compile from source, which is not a good idea, especially for beginners.
[01:13] <hk_> well
[01:13] <Dr_Melectaus> Done it Stormx
[01:13] <hk_> from source its better ?
[01:13] <cafuego> Stormx: They make my eyes bleed when they breed too quickly.
[01:13] <Dr_Melectaus> worked
[01:13] <Stormx> rofl
[01:13] <cafuego> hk_: No, it's not.
[01:13] <Dr_Melectaus> cheers Stormx
[01:13] <frederr> cafuego im as A  root
[01:13] <cafuego> hk_: Especially when compiled by someone who doesn't know how.
[01:13] <Stormx> Working?
[01:13] <benkong2> I have 2Gig of memory in my server the bios shows the memory but a top only shows 906660K do I have something configured incorrectly?
[01:13] <Stormx> =D
[01:13] <sml> Blissex: then in the STATUS area, the WAN is 'connected', the WLAN light is on, there is an IP, subnet, etc
[01:13] <hk_> hmmm ok
[01:13] <Dr_Melectaus> yes Stormx
[01:14] <Dr_Melectaus> thanks Stormx
[01:14] <hk_> but how to install xmms then?
[01:14] <cafuego> hk_: The precompiled software is all built for STABILITY by people with over a decade of packaging experience.
[01:14] <Stormx> =)
[01:14] <Blissex> sml: on the WiFi base stattion?
[01:14] <sml> yes
[01:14] <blakamin> blissex: switched in multimedia systems... and sounds.. all run alsa... dd command the same as before... no prompt
[01:14] <Stormx> hk_ I'll take you though it!
[01:14] <Blissex> benkong2: yes.
[01:14] <cafuego> hk_: Start 'Synaptic' from the Admin menu, search for 'xmms' and install it.
[01:14] <MikeW> "Install the base system" "Unable to install initrd-tools" "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system. Check /var/log/messages or see virtual console 3 for the details"
[01:14] <MikeW> whats that about?
[01:14] <benkong2> Blissex; what's wrong
[01:14] <DoctorMO_> do I take it my idea is boring and what you want is the solution already done?
[01:14] <cafuego> frederr: 'sudo lsof var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[01:15] <sml> Blissex: back in the admin, networking .. i will activate WLAN
[01:15] <Blissex> benkong2: you need to enable the ''large memory'' option of your kernel.
[01:15] <benkong2> oh no is there a doc somewhere?
[01:15] <Blissex> benkong2: and the kernel needs to be one build with the 4GB extension.
[01:15] <sml> Blissex: waiting
[01:15] <frederr> lsof: status error on var/lib/dpkg/lock: No such file or directory
[01:15] <frederr> lsof 4.74
[01:15] <frederr>  latest revision: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/
[01:15] <frederr>  latest FAQ: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ
[01:15] <frederr>  latest man page: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man
[01:15] <frederr>  usage: [-?abhlnNoOPRstUvV]  [+|-c c]  [+|-d s]  [+D D]  [+|-f] 
[01:15] <frederr>  [-F [f] ]  [-g [s] ]  [-i [i] ]  [+|-L [l] ]  [+m [m] ]  [+|-M]  [-o [o] ] 
[01:15] <frederr> [-p s]  [+|-r [t] ]  [-S [t] ]  [-T [t] ]  [-u s]  [+|-w]  [-x [fl] ]  [--]  [names] 
[01:15] <frederr> Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information.
[01:15] <Blissex> benkong2: it is fairly standard.
[01:15] <sml> Blisex: takes a while to activate
[01:15] <cafuego> benkong2: Just install a precompiled kernel. You're on the i386 kernel now right?
[01:15] <LinuxJones> frederr, please don't do that
[01:16] <cafuego> frederr: You missed a '/'
[01:16] <benkong2> cafuego; yes ubuntu hoary i386
[01:16] <MikeW> guys, anyone know how I can check virtual console 3?
[01:16] <frederr> oh sorry
[01:16] <cafuego> arrgh, I missed a /
[01:16] <Blissex> sml: the most likely cause for WiFi problems is that the driver is not loaded right, and/or the firmware has not been loaded.
[01:16] <benkong2> bet apt-get can't do that huh?
[01:16] <cafuego> frederr: 'sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[01:16] <Blissex> sml: you can eanble 'wlan0', but if the card is not properly driven, fat chance.
[01:16] <sml> Blissex : network settings says 'active'.
[01:16] <Blissex> benkong2: there is usually very little problem.
[01:16] <cafuego> benkong2: Install the kernel for your cpu (i686 or k7) and HIGHMEM up to 4GB will be detected.
[01:17] <LinuxJones> frederr, you can paste your items to www.pastebin.ca then post the link that it spits out here in the channel
[01:17] <sml> Blissex: iwconfig says 'link quality:100/100'
[01:17] <benkong2> cafuego; ok off to check the docs and google a bit thanks all :-)
[01:17] <sml> Bliisex: signal level:-10dBm
[01:17] <frederr> ok
[01:17] <cafuego> benkong2: Just apt=-get install it
[01:17] <sml> Blissex: noise level: -256 dBm
[01:17] <LinuxJones> frederr, that jsut cuts down on the random noise in the channel :)
[01:17] <Blissex> sml: thats impossible.
[01:17] <benkong2> cafuego; aha that will be cool
[01:17] <cavediver> Hi all. Is there i linux BBS software availible that is still maintained ?
[01:18] <Blissex> sml: I would suspect the device has not been properly initialized.
[01:18] <cafuego> cavediver: bbs100?
[01:18] <signbarn> is there a tool along the lines of a "scandisk"?
[01:18] <sml> Bliisex: :) that what it says
[01:18] <cafuego> cavediver: Or are you after modem stuff?
[01:18] <cavediver> cafuego: do you hava an url ?
[01:18] <Blissex> sml: which chipset/card is that?
[01:18] <cafuego> signbarn: 'fsck'
[01:18] <cavediver> cafuego: no, tcp
[01:18] <cafuego> cavediver: Hmm, lemme see.
[01:18] <sml> Broadcom - there was a god ubuntu how to - that i followed
[01:18] <Blissex> sml: have you downloaded and installed the firmware files?
[01:18] <frederr> cafuego is not mplayer there
[01:18] <cavediver> Falken BBS was a tip, but it seemed to have gone offline
[01:18] <sml> Blissex: all worked as per the how to
[01:19] <Blissex> sml: Broadcom is not supported except with 'ndiswrapper' and that is pretty hard to set up right.
[01:19] <cafuego> cavediver: http://www.xs4all.nl/~walterj/bbs100/
[01:19] <sml> yes .. i am using the ndiswrapper. maybe i will try the linuxant
[01:19] <Blissex> sml: I would opine that all workedx is not quite right :-)
[01:19] <cafuego> cavediver: That's pretty good code; i know the guy who wrote it, too.
[01:19] <sml> Blissex: .. true
[01:19] <Blissex> sml: it is cheaper and easier to use a properly supported card/chipset...
[01:19] <cavediver> cafuego: ohh i see :)
[01:19] <sml> Blisex: PCMCIA?
[01:20] <cavediver> cafuego: is there a ssh version, or is it just telnet ?
[01:20] <sml> Blissex: this reminds me of the winmodem days!
[01:20] <cafuego> cavediver: ssh and telnet
[01:20] <Blissex> sml: or USB, which is convenient too. I ahve made a list here: http://tinyurl.com/adhwx
[01:20] <sml> Blissex:  ahhhhh
[01:20] <cavediver> caOK
[01:20] <Blissex> sml: in effect most WiFi cards _are_ winmodems.
[01:20] <cavediver> cafuego: ok :)
[01:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> o_o
[01:20] <benkong2> cafuego; hmmm.. uname says I have an i686 2.6.10-5-386 and there is only 2.4 in my synaptic. Where can I go?
[01:20] <sml> Blissex:  ahhh brings back bad memories!!! :(
[01:20] <Snippy> hello my friends
[01:20] <Snippy> :)
[01:21] <Stormx> heya Snippy
[01:21] <lesbolover> like my name?
[01:21] <Blissex> sml: if all you need is to connect via ADSL, you only need 11b, not g, and then I found that little USB sticks based on the ZyDAS 1201 work very well and are also awesomely cheap.
[01:21] <cafuego> benkong2: Um, linux-image-2.6 (I think)
[01:21] <Snippy> I'm new to linux.. new to ubuntu
[01:21] <Blissex> sml: WiFi cards are for the most part _radio_ winmodems :-/
[01:21] <benkong2> cafuego; let me check
[01:21] <cafuego> lesbolover: Not really, seemsa bit prepubescent.
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[01:21] <lesbolover> what
[01:22] <cafuego> "childish"
[01:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> your name
[01:22] <sml> Blissex: i might try the linuxant driver!
[01:22] <Snippy> ok listen guys.. I've got a serious problem
[01:22] <f_newton> uh... no not winmodems
[01:22] <Snippy> it's a well known problem..
[01:22] <Blissex> sml: uhmmmm, thats not good news either... Better to check casrefully with 'ndiswrapper'.
[01:22] <Snippy> I've got no sound..
[01:22] <Stormx> Hey guys, trivial question, but is there a shortcut to resource manager (its Ctrl+Alt+Delete in windows)?
[01:22] <cafuego> benkong2: 'linux-image-2.6.10-5-686' according to packages.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <Blissex> sml: look at your logs for possible error messages during the card initialization.
[01:22] <f_newton> more like tho old 10meg nics with transmitters
[01:23] <black_Nightmare> hey there :p
[01:23] <benkong2> cafuego; ok thanks
[01:23] <Stormx>  is there a shortcut to resource manager (its Ctrl+Alt+Delete in windows)?
[01:23] <blakamin> snippy: welcome to the club
[01:23] <Blissex> Snippy: follow the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[01:23] <Snippy> Thanks
[01:23] <Stormx> hey black_Nightmare
[01:23] <sml> Blissex: which log file?
[01:23] <Blissex> blakamin: have you reconfigured your apps to use ALSA instead of OSS?
[01:23] <Stormx> Snippy - no sound at all?
[01:23] <Snippy> nope no sound at all
[01:24] <black_Nightmare> just wondering out of curiousity...any experience or tidbits on using hp scanjet scanners here?
[01:24] <Snippy> I tried to install the nforce linux drivers from nvidia.com
[01:24] <Snippy> but no luck
[01:24] <Snippy> same problem
[01:24] <Blissex> blakamin: also, try 'dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8000 count=1 | aplay -D plug:dsp0'
[01:24] <Raf999> Stormx - i'm guessing at the fstab file ? ( for 2nd HDD show in 'computer' )
[01:24] <Snippy> didnt had any problems installing it and loading the modules into the kernel.. even if I'm a newbie
[01:24] <blakamin> blissex: will try
[01:24] <Dashiva> that's an alsa command, not an OSS one
[01:24] <Snippy> ah a question: how do I uninstall those drivers?
[01:24] <deviant> after i`m creating a symling between a dir in my home_dir and /var/www/ , apache server won`t display it. any sugestions?  anyone ???
[01:25] <benkong2> cafuego; I have and AMD 1800+ image is for a Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV, won't that make a difference?
[01:25] <Snippy> I just deleted the entrys in modprobe.d/ config file.. is that right? those entrys loaded the nvidia sound driver modules
[01:26] <Snippy> but when I startet linux today, I ve got a error I could not read.. it made *beep* .. dissapeared too fast tough
[01:26] <cafuego> benkong2: 'linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7' then (you _did_ say 686 before, didn't you?)
[01:26] <benkong2> uname -o gives i686
[01:26] <blakamin> blissex: Playing raw data 'stdin' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
[01:26] <blakamin> 1+0 records in
[01:26] <blakamin> 1+0 records out
[01:26] <blakamin> 8000 bytes transferred in 0.033301 seconds (240233 bytes/sec)
[01:26] <Blissex> blakamin: it works!
[01:26] <blakamin> no sound
[01:26] <frederr> when i play a dvd it say it cant play, reason unknow :/
[01:27] <Blissex> blakamin: it works, the no sound it just a little detail :-)
[01:27] <catolh> Is the E17 window manager pretty faulty?
[01:27] <Snippy> It's really annoying without sound, tough I wont change back to windows.. hehe
[01:27] <blakamin> blissex: just a little ;p
[01:27] <Blissex> blakamin: make sure, using 'alsamixer' that the PCM and Master channels are unmuted and with say 80% volume and try again with the same command.
[01:27] <shido> cx881 and cx883 users?
[01:27] <sml> Blissex ... which log file should i check please? :)
[01:28] <blakamin> blissex: will do...
[01:28] <Blissex> sml: probably '/var/log/kern.log' and/or '/var/log/messages'
[01:28] <sml> cool thanks
[01:28] <catolh> I really like the Enlightenment dock applet "engage". And i love the look of a enlightenment (eye candy look) desktop. And i was wondering, is it possible to get a similar look with another "easier" window manager?
[01:29] <Amaranth> catolh: not really
[01:29] <catolh> Amaranth, so i need to use enlightenment?
[01:29] <blakamin> blissex: alsamixer pcm and main at 84
[01:29] <geronimo_> hello
[01:29] <Amaranth> catolh: pretty much, yeah
[01:29] <Blissex> blakamin: unmuted too?
[01:29] <Snippy> ppl, I need to know how to uninstall those drivers >_<
[01:29] <catolh> Amaranth, is it possible to use engage with E16?
[01:29] <Amaranth> catolh: I don't use enlightenment
[01:29] <catolh> Cause i couldnt get the E17 to load, i logged in, got a black screen.. then a white
[01:29] <geronimo_> french ???
[01:30] <benkong2> ok dudes off to reboot if you don't hear back from me I'm lost :-}
[01:30] <catolh> Amaranth, oh, ok.. thanks anyway :)
[01:30] <blakamin> blissex: yup
[01:30] <sml> Blissex: Aug  6 08:59:10 localhost kernel: wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
[01:30] <blakamin> blissex:  00 in the bottom
[01:30] <Suepahfly> is there a way to 'restart' my mouse?
[01:31] <Suepahfly> it hangs randomly
[01:31] <Blissex> blakamin: put the output of 'amixer scontents' on pastebin.com
[01:31] <wibble> deviant: I think you might want to put FollowSymLinks in the appropriate Options line of your apache config file (maybe /etc/apache2/apache2.conf , maybe somewhere in /etc/apache2/sites-available)
[01:31] <Blissex> Suepahfly: if it is USB, easy, PS2, impossible.
[01:31] <Suepahfly> it's a mx1000
[01:31] <sml> Blissex: no probs in messages - only good news!
[01:31] <Suepahfly> i usually have it on usb
[01:31] <kr> i have a problem whith firestarter, its blocking my internet connection, i am using a wireless local network
[01:32] <sml> Aug  6 08:14:22 localhost kernel: wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0e:9b:d1:5f:59 using driver bcmwl5
[01:32] <deviant> wibble: it is working fine with symlinks that does not link to my home dir  ....
[01:32] <Blissex> sml: 'iwlist scanning' should be reporting something though...
[01:32] <kr> going throug a router
[01:32] <Blissex> sml: and yes those messages seem good.
[01:32] <sml> 08:14:22 localhost kernel: ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Broadcom,12/22/2004, 3.100.46.0) added
[01:33] <Blissex> sml: have you also specified the right channel on 'iwconfig'? That's pretty essential.
[01:33] <kr> any suggestions how to adjust the firewall
[01:33] <Snippy> someone wants to help me?   query pls..
[01:33] <deprave_> what is that acronym term people use for the nvu editor?
[01:33] <deprave_> oh wysiwyg
[01:33] <squinn> deprave_, nvu?
[01:33] <squinn> oh
[01:33] <squinn> haha
[01:33] <Eddie> Hi, I'm new to the UNIX filesystem and want to need how I can make a shortcut to my desktop to start '/'?
[01:33] <squinn> what you see is what you get
[01:34] <deviant> wibble: how do i do that ?
[01:34] <cafuego> kr: If you're using a wireless lan (with masq) you don't really need a firewall at all.
[01:34] <nocloud> i am having the problem posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54721 can somebody please help me?
[01:34] <sml> Blissex: ..  what is the command for setting the channel
[01:34] <squinn> Eddie, right click on your desktop
[01:34] <catolh> Does anyone here use E17?
[01:34] <kr> ok is there a firewall build in to the router?
[01:35] <squinn> Eddie, "Create Launcher", name: Shortcut to Root Filesystem
[01:35] <squinn> and then command:
[01:35] <Blissex> sml: my WiFi config is done like this: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed channel "$CHAN" rate auto; iwconfig wlan0 essid "$SID" key "$KEY"; iwconfig wlan0 commit
[01:35] <kr> the router i am using is sparklan
[01:35] <Snippy> someone wants to help me?   query pls..
[01:36] <squinn> Eddie, command is "nautilus --browser --no-desktop /"
[01:36] <Blissex> sml: just substitude the right values at the obvious points.
[01:36] <squinn> without quotes
[01:36] <sml> ok thanks Blissex
[01:36] <benkong2> booya :-) you dudes rock thanks
[01:36] <wibble> deviant: maybe a permissions problem ?  what is your documentroot and the source and destination of your symlink ?
[01:36] <signbarn> how do i unmount my filesystem to use 'fsck'?
[01:36] <Eddie> thanks a bunch squinn
[01:36] <nocloud> i am having the problem posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54721 can somebody please help me?
[01:36] <Blissex> Snippy: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions
[01:36] <deviant> wibble: i`m trying to symlink a folder in my /home/ to /var/www
[01:37] <frederr> please help http://pastebin.com/330341
[01:37] <Stormx> Hey sexys
[01:37] <Stormx> I'm back
[01:37] <Eddie> Also, is it possible to explore my old, windows hard drive?
[01:37] <Stormx> Why not?
[01:37] <Blissex> frederr: you don't have the APT ''sources'' with the right packages.
[01:37] <Snippy> fine
[01:37] <Blissex> Eddie: yes, just mount the various partitions on it.
[01:38] <Stormx> Eddie, you know about mounting?
[01:38] <BlueWeasel> I've got a Toshiba laptop (Celeron 1.5Ghz, 512mb RAM)...would you go with Gnome or a lighter desktop like XFCE?
[01:38] <Eddie> No :(
[01:38] <frederr> Blissex how can i do that please
[01:38] <Stormx> OK I'll PM you.
[01:38] <Eddie> ok
[01:38] <Snippy> so, how can I uninstall the nvidia nforce linux drivers (nvidia.com) ?
[01:38] <Blissex> frederr: typically you need the Marillat repository.
[01:38] <Blissex> Snippy: how you installed them?
[01:38] <Snippy> they had a guide
[01:38] <Blissex> frederr: also a nice read on how APT works would be a very nice idea.
[01:38] <Snippy> I followed the steps
[01:39] <Blissex> frederr: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[01:39] <ixiz> Hi, I read on Ubuntufora's that to add the Microsoft Fonts, I need to add "universe" to my sources.list and sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts, I unmarked the universe in sources.list, and did apt-get update
[01:39] <Blissex> Snippy: did you download the NVIDIA installer or did you use '.deb' packages?
[01:39] <ixiz> but it's does not find any msttcorefonts
[01:39] <frederr>  ok
[01:39] <ixiz> package*
[01:39] <Jimbob> nocloud: Can you "sudo modprobe bm44"
[01:39] <hk_> configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes
[01:40] <sml> Blissex: :(  no good :(  i just bought the notebook last week. maybe i could return it! :)
[01:40] <deviant> wibble: sudo ln -s /home/deviant/Download/dc++/felicitari/ /var/www/
[01:40] <deviant>  should do the job. but it doesen`t
[01:40] <Blissex> ixiz: 'apt-cache search microsoft' might help
[01:40] <synnfest> OK, I'm probably missing something really simple here, but since I did the mozilla updates, like half the sites I go to freeze firefox, and my only option is to force quit.  Anybody wanna offer a noob some quick help?
[01:40] <Snippy> Blissex: I downloaded this file:  NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0301-pkg1.run
[01:40] <frederr> Blissex where is that mariland repostory?
[01:40] <Blissex> sml: buying a US$20 ZyDAS 1201 USB stick might look like the least hassle.
[01:41] <wibble> deviant: right.  it works for me here, although I own /var/www.
[01:41] <hk_> configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes < wtf?
[01:41] <Blissex> Snippy: that package has an ''uninstall'' option IIRC
[01:41] <sml> Blissex: hmmm yes .. i guess. .. doen't feel quite as wireless though :(
[01:41] <Stormx> !How much do you love me?
[01:41] <ubotu> Stormx: I haven't a clue
[01:41] <sml> Blissex: are there any other good irc channels ?
[01:41] <Blissex> sml: it is equally wireless, and you can use it on your desktop too.
[01:41] <deviant> wibble: hmm. what do you mean by "own". i`m using sudo when i`m creating the symlinks
[01:41] <frederr> any one can please tellme the rigth sources for mplayer if posible?
[01:41] <Snippy> Blissex: as I mentioned before, I'm new to linux and this stuff, where do I find this option, and what is IIRC?
[01:42] <Blissex> sml: from thre kernel logs it looks like your driver is set up right, it may be that you have configured but enabled the WiFi in your router too.
[01:42] <nocloud> jimbob:  what does "sudo modprobe bm44" do?
[01:42] <Blissex> Snippy: IIRC -- ''If I Remember Correctly''
[01:42] <blakamin> blissex: http://pastebin.com/330336
[01:42] <p3ts> how i join canal irc #rtcw.ee???
[01:43] <sml> Blissex ... I have checked that a number of times ... i think it is ok ..?
[01:43] <Jimbob> nocloud: Tries to load the broadcom 44xx drivers
[01:43] <frederr> any one can please tellme the rigth sources for mplayer if posible?
[01:43] <Blissex> Snippy: if you do something like 'sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0301-pkg1.run --help' it should list the options.
[01:43] <BlueWeasel> Any thoughts on Gnome vs. XFCE on a 1.5Ghz Celeron with 512mb RAM?
[01:43] <Blissex> sml: no idea, if would help if you had a second WiFi device for a second opinion.
[01:43] <Snippy> Blissex: aye sir :)
[01:43] <mgorbach228> anyone have information as to how to set up an audigy2 in ubuntu?
[01:43] <deviant> wibble: each time i access my apache server, i get this error in error.log: [Sat Aug 06 02:50:27 2005]  [error]  [client 195.95.255.75]  File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico
[01:43] <wibble> deviant: I recursively chowned /var/www and its contents to me
[01:43] <ixiz> Blissex: it didn't
[01:43] <Blissex> BlueWeasel: I dont like GNOME, but 512MB is good.
[01:43] <frederr> any one can please tellme the rigth sources for mplayer if posible?
[01:44] <deviant> wibble: you think that will do ?
[01:44] <Blissex> !marillat
[01:44] <ubotu> Blissex: I don't know
[01:44] <Blissex> !help
[01:44] <mgorbach228> deviant thats the browser equest a favorites icon
[01:44] <mgorbach228> you can ignore that
[01:44] <mgorbach228> *requesting
[01:44] <Stormx> !I LOVE YOU UBOTU!!!!
[01:44] <ubotu> Stormx: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:44] <mgorbach228> anyone have information as to how to set up an audigy2 in ubuntu?
[01:44] <sml> Blissex: or i could do a quick windows install! :(
[01:44] <Blissex> !tell me about marillat
[01:44] <Blissex> frederr: wait a bit
[01:44] <frederr> hi
[01:45] <wibble> deviant: well, I did that so it would be convenient to edit files in /var/www, not to solve your symlink problem
[01:45] <deviant> ermm, this is starting to become anoing ..
[01:45] <sml> Blissex: MPDUs  	   	1
[01:45] <sml>   	MSDUs 	  	2
[01:45] <sml>   	Multicast MSDUs 	  	2
[01:45] <sml>   	Failed MSDUs 	  	0
[01:45] <sml>   	Retry MSDUs 	  	
[01:45] <BlueWeasel>  Blissex: I'm really trying to maximize performance on the laptop, and I'm thinking of using a server install +XFCE
[01:45] <nocloud> jimbob: i think i will give that a try, but there is something else though, when i boot up in linux, it says [fail]  in the section that says configuring network cards
[01:45] <b0xen> Hey, I'm a bit confused about ubuntu package management. I get how to use synaptics, but whenever I try to remove software part of the basic install, like Evolution for example, it also has to remove ubuntu-desktop. Now according to the ubuntu-desktop description, certain features of ubuntu will not work without the ubuntu-desktop package installed, such as certain upgrade features. So is that to say that I cannot remove Evolution wi
[01:45] <b0xen> thout braking a part of Ubuntu because of package dependencies?
[01:45] <Quest-Master> whoa
[01:45] <deviant> wibble: i see.
[01:45] <helloyo> i installed enlightenment (just with synaptic, no special repositories), but how do i get into it?
[01:45] <Snippy> Blissex: I dont find an uninstall option
[01:45] <Blissex> BlueWeasel: XFCE is a lot less heavy.
[01:45] <Blissex> Snippy: thats bad news. Let me look around.
[01:45] <Jimbob> nocloud: Huh.
[01:45] <hk_> configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes < wtf?
[01:46] <Snippy> Blissex: okay..
[01:46] <patty85> hi!!
[01:46] <deviant> wibble: ok, if i try to copy the files in /var/www , the server shows them to me, but i can`t open them. permision denied ..
[01:46] <Jimbob> nocloud: Does /var/log/dmesg have anything to say about networking?
[01:46] <nocloud> i'm not sure
[01:46] <b0xen> Anybody?
[01:46] <cafuego> Your failed assumption is that a Broadcom wifi product would work, even if the driver did load.
[01:46] <patty85> hi!!
[01:47] <cafuego> hk_: NOW what are you trying to compile?
[01:47] <Snippy> Blissex: it's ok I found it, sorry
[01:47] <Snippy> Blissex: it was in the advanced options
[01:47] <nocloud> jimbob: the [fail]  message i saw was from the long list of things that show up when the computer starts to boot linux, they usually say [ok]  but next to the network one, i got [fail] 
[01:47] <Blissex> Snippy: that hopefully should be enough.
[01:47] <Jimbob> cafuego: He's not referring to wireless -- he's referring to a broadcom wired card.
[01:47] <Jimbob> nocloud: Yeah
[01:48] <cafuego> Jimbob: Well, the same applies ;-)
[01:48] <Blissex> hk_: you should really not even try to compile from source...
[01:49] <cafuego> Blissex: That message didn't seem to have come through earlier.
[01:49] <hk_> but why do i get that?
[01:49] <Snippy> Blissex: oh no.. it tells me that there is none installed
[01:49] <Snippy> Blissex: but I DID installed it
[01:49] <cafuego> hk_: Because you're trying to compile software, but have no idea what you're doing.
[01:49] <Stormx> Is there a shortcut to resource manager?
[01:49] <hk_> ofcouese
[01:49] <wibble> deviant: I sorry, I don't understand what you mean.  could you explain in more detail ?
[01:49] <cafuego> recipe for disaster
[01:50] <hk_> i was trying to look into the configure to just edit the enviorment
[01:50] <Blissex> Snippy: you may have installed it to a different path than the default path...
[01:50] <cafuego> hk_: You do that by editing your shell's .rc file
[01:50] <terrex> Confirmed: There is no floppies for ubuntu; but I'll try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:50] <Blissex> Snippy: in that case you should specify the same path/location to uninstall as to install.
[01:50] <nocloud> Cafuego & jimbob: am i supposed to load some driver first for the broadcom 440x?
[01:50] <Snippy> Blissex: I did not enter any different path, it didnt ask for a path so I just followed the steps
[01:50] <hk_> i did
[01:51] <synnfest> So anybody think they can help with the firefox issue, or at least point me in the right direction?
[01:51] <Blissex> Snippy: thats a bit odd...
[01:51] <hk_> but the configure doesnt seem to copy it properly somehow
[01:51] <signbarn> how do i 'fsck' my root filesystem?
[01:51] <cafuego> hk_: WHY are you running ./configure ?
[01:51] <deviant> wibble: ok. so i`ve copyed the files (some .jpeg`s) from /home/user/blablabla to /var/www/felicitari ok? and now i can see the files, but i can not open them. ([error]  [client 195.95.255.75]  Symbolic link not allowed: /var/www/felicitari
[01:51] <deviant> )
[01:51] <catolh> how do i unpack a .tar.bz2 ?
[01:51] <linkmark_> catolh: tar -zxvf file
[01:52] <linkmark_> i beleve
[01:52] <b0xen> Can anybody answer a package management question for me?
[01:52] <catolh> not in gzip format
[01:52] <Blissex> blakamin: having a look at the paste...
[01:52] <cafuego> tar xfj <file>
[01:52] <LinuxJones> catolh, tar xfjv file.tar
[01:52] <catolh> :o
[01:52] <catolh> ah, thanks
[01:52] <Snippy> Blissex: what can I do now?
[01:52] <linkmark_> catolh: sry, my mistake
[01:52] <cafuego> wtf do you people insist on 'v' for?
[01:52] <Blissex> Snippy: no idea, but wait a bit i'll have a look at that installer. I need to download it first.
[01:52] <cafuego> it spams any errors off the screen
[01:52] <LinuxJones> cafuego, to see the files being extracted
[01:53] <Snippy> Blissex: ok thank you
[01:53] <ian> anyone use Kino?  every video file I try to open says either "Failed to load media file" or "Invalid file specified"
[01:53] <cafuego> LinuxJones: You did that first when you ran 'tar tfj' to see where the files would go, of course.
[01:53] <hk_> ah i get it
[01:53] <hk_> works now
[01:54] <LinuxJones> cafuego, I never used the t switch...in any case it's a habit I have picked up over the years
[01:54] <Stormx> tst
[01:54] <cafuego> Bad habits die hard, yeah.
[01:54] <hk_> however i dont need all the packages that are compiled ffs
[01:55] <Stormx> how do you set nicks/
[01:55] <cafuego> hk_: Nobody said you should install ALL of them.
[01:55] <hk_> now i mean with the installation cd
[01:55] <LinuxJones> cafuego, the end result is the same so symantics are a preference I guess
[01:55] <hk_> loads of things i dont need
[01:55] <cafuego> LinuxJones: Not really; mine means you don't get a dodgly tarball that overwrites other files.
[01:56] <cafuego> hk_: So how does that equate to needing to compile things?
[01:56] <Snippy> I've got a second question.. I'm connecting to the internet via my LAN Card.. is there a built-in Firewall in ubuntu Hoary release ? or how can I block my ports?
[01:56] <cafuego> Did you get lost on the way to #gentoo?
[01:56] <LinuxJones> cafuego, what files his question was how do you extract a tar.bz2 file
[01:56] <hk_> cuase i couldnt find it in sypatnics orsum
[01:56] <Blissex> blakamin: the output of 'amixer scontents; seems OK, but try to unmute 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo', and/or 'Mono Output Select', and double check the cabling, that you plugged in the speakers in the right socket.
[01:57] <audio3> can someone please connect 2 my ftp...wanna check ftp settings
[01:57] <cafuego> hk_: You never DID say WHAT you were after.
[01:57] <Blissex> blakamin: that the 'dd' line to 'plug:dsp0' works means that software side things are probably OK.
[01:57] <hk_> doesnt matter now
[01:57] <hk_> its done
[01:58] <cafuego> hk_: The reason i ask is that you proibably won't get much help fixing problems after installing unpackaged software all over the system.
[01:58] <blakamin> blissex: its a laptop so no cables! :p
[01:58] <Blissex> blakamin: you mean you expect the sound to come out of the built in speakers?
[01:58] <cafuego> Just coz you didn't enable 'universe' or 'multiverse' in sources.lst doesn't mean the software doesn't exist for ubuntu.
[01:58] <hk_> well the INSTALL cd did that allready for me
[01:58] <ian> any Kino users here?
[01:58] <blakamin> blissex: nah.. a streeo set of speakers or headphones the
[01:58] <wibble> deviant: is it world readable ?
[01:59] <Blissex> blakamin: and those are wireless?
[01:59] <cafuego> hk_: The install cd installed packaged software, that can be managed, updated and uninstalled via the package system. 'make install' tarball stuff can't.
[01:59] <deviant> wibble: nop. .jpeg`s
[01:59] <hk_> i dont need like 4 sound devices i mean just also is enough for example and due that my sound was mixed up becuase all ofit were standard on oss
[01:59] <blakamin> blissex: negative...
[01:59] <cafuego> hk_: No, never mind. I must be an idiot.
[01:59] <Blissex> so perhaps they are plugged into the wrong socket...
[01:59] <deviant> wibble: nevermind, i`ve just erased those files. this thig has pissed me off :P 10x anyway :)
[01:59] <hk_> why not?
[02:00] <Blissex> Snippy: it will take another 5 mins for the download to finish...
[02:00] <Snippy> Blissex: no problem, take your time
[02:01] <audio3> can someone please connect 2 my ftp...wanna check ftp settings
[02:03] <Snippy> I've got a second question.. I'm connecting to the internet via my LAN Card.. is there a built-in Firewall in ubuntu Hoary release ? or how can I block my ports?
[02:04] <wibble> deviant: I mean the permissions -- if you do ls-hal on the dir and the link and its contents, do they show "r" at the start ?
[02:05] <cafuego> Snippy: There are a few frontends for iptables.
[02:05] <cafuego> Snippy: ot you could go with a very nasic firewall (that does the job just fine)
[02:05] <Snippy> cafuego: what do you mean? Sorry I'm new to this..
[02:05] <Snippy> ah
[02:05] <Snippy> I see
[02:05] <cafuego> !simple firewall
[02:06] <Snippy> !simple firewall
[02:06] <Snippy> ?
[02:06] <cafuego> Snippy: Did ubotu message you the commands?
[02:06] <frederr> hi i get this error E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:06] <Snippy> hehe he said that someone said it 11 sec b4 I did
[02:06] <Snippy> !simple firewall
[02:06] <cafuego> !tell Snippy -about simple firewall
[02:06] <Snippy> he did
[02:06] <Blissex> Snippy: uh, there is not much to uninstall... Its basically two kernel modules, which do not matter, and a couple of scripts/commands that have probably been installed in '/usr/local/bin'
[02:07] <a514> What is the subdomain for sync  the time?
[02:07] <cafuego> That is a very basic firewall. Allows traffic OUT, but nothing IN.
[02:07] <Blissex> frederr: yes, probably that means there are two programs handling packages open.
[02:07] <cafuego> a514: pool.ntp.org ?
[02:07] <a514> ntp.ubuntulinux.org ?
[02:07] <cafuego> a514: pool.ntp.org ?
[02:08] <Snippy> Blissex: why dont they matter, the kernel modules?  I will check this folder now, hold on a second
[02:08] <a514> Well thanks for the ntp part :) my url worked :)
[02:09] <Snippy> theres nothing in usr/local/bin... nothing
[02:09] <Snippy> Blissex: theres nothing in usr/local/bin... nothing
[02:09] <deathllama> so, who would like to give me a small amount of assistance getting XMMS to work in Ubuntu?
[02:10] <deviant> does mount knows how to mount .nrg images ?
[02:10] <Snippy> cafuego: isnt there a software with gui thats easy to maintain ? would be better for a newbie like me hehe
[02:11] <mindmedic> deviant, there is a tool to convert nrg images to iso
[02:11] <mindmedic> nrg2iso i guess
[02:11] <cafuego> Snippy: prolly firestarter or somesuch, just punch 'firewall' into Syanptic and see what comes up. (It will do the same  thing, just with a GUI on top)
[02:11] <Blissex> Snippy: perhaps you really haven't installed it.
[02:12] <deviant> mindmedic: aha,ok. 10x :)
[02:12] <Snippy> Blissex: I am pretty sure I installed it.. I have the driver running ATM.. I can see it @ the volume control.. it changed name of the device to NFORCE AUDIO (OSS)
[02:13] <Blissex> Snippy: have you installed that stuff long enough ago that it might have ended up in the locate database?
[02:13] <_icebreaker_> is there a java package?
[02:13] <cafuego> !java
[02:13] <Snippy> yesterday
[02:13] <ubotu> I guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[02:13] <Blissex> Snippy: said another way, what happens if you do 'locate /nv'? What's the outout.
[02:13] <luminerd> Hello
[02:13] <Snippy> Blissex: huge output, can I paste it in a query?
[02:13] <Blissex> Snippy: yes...
[02:14] <luminerd> I have returned, as I said, as I have faced problems with the command line burner
[02:14] <_icebreaker_> ubotu:  thx
[02:14] <ubotu> _icebreaker_: Wish i knew
[02:14] <Blissex> luminerd: thats unlikey if you are burning CDs, but be more specific.
[02:14] <Syco54645> is there a way to tell how fast cdrecord is going once it starts burning
[02:14] <Syco54645> i cant think of a way
[02:14] <frederr> hi, the dvd is like stoping , any one know why is that?
[02:15] <luminerd> the main problem is that I forgot the command
[02:15] <luminerd> was it cdrecord or recordcd?
[02:15] <luminerd> heh
[02:15] <Syco54645> frederr, is it stopping or skipping?
[02:15] <frederr> Syco54645  skipping
[02:15] <cafuego> Syco54645: pass the -v flag when you start it.
[02:15] <Syco54645> frederr, you need to enable dma
[02:15] <corfro> hello
[02:15] <LinuxJones> corfro, welcome :)
[02:15] <frederr> Syco54645 from whre can i enable dma?
[02:16] <Syco54645> cafuego, yeah i didnt do that when i started it
[02:16] <Syco54645> frederr, hold on i am gonna help ;P
[02:16] <frederr> ok
[02:16] <cafuego> Syco54645: ctrl-Coaster, start again? ;-)
[02:17] <corfro> how can i boot to the live ubuntu cd on a mac?
[02:17] <luminerd> so what's the command line to burn a cd?
[02:17] <Syco54645>  hdparm -d1 /dev/dvdrom
[02:17] <luminerd> Syco54645, was that to me?
[02:17] <cafuego> corfro: Insert cd, hold down 'c' when starting up
[02:17] <Syco54645> frederr, that will do it
[02:17] <Syco54645> frederr, yeah sorry
[02:17] <LinuxJones> corfro, just hold the "c" button as your system boot (I think)
[02:17] <cafuego> luminerd: man cdrecord
[02:17] <luminerd> cafuego, err, I don't have X
[02:17] <luminerd> ok
[02:17] <luminerd> thanks
[02:17] <corfro> yeah that worked..thank you!
[02:17] <Syco54645> frederr, if you get an HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument
[02:18] <mebaran151> question
[02:18] <Syco54645> frederr, then the kernel needs recompiled
[02:18] <Snippy> Blissex: I pasted everything, not to forget, I installed nvidia graphic drivers too
[02:18] <cafuego> answer
[02:18] <Snippy> cafuego: there is no firewall in synaptic.. just a webmin firewall
[02:18] <mebaran151> I can make my cdrom seek through audio cd's
[02:18] <Blissex> Snippy: yes, having a look.
[02:18] <cafuego> Snippy: Liar, there *so* is one. I had it installed.
[02:18] <mebaran151> no errors are thrown
[02:18] <Syco54645> cafuego, i would rather not do that as i am poor... there has to be another way
[02:18] <luminerd> how do I mount cdrom in ubuntu?
[02:18] <cafuego> Snippy: Do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[02:18] <mebaran151> also goobox is segfaulting
[02:18] <Syco54645> luminerd, mount /dev/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom
[02:18] <mebaran151> for all those who are interested
[02:18] <cafuego> Syco54645: Nope, just wait until it's done.
[02:18] <luminerd> thanks Syco54645
[02:18] <luminerd> :)
[02:18] <Syco54645> luminerd, something like that will work
[02:19] <frederr> Syco54645 hdparm -d1 /dev/dvdrom , just like that?
[02:19] <luminerd> Syco54645, errr...something like that?
[02:19] <luminerd> lol
[02:19] <Snippy> cafuego: I have added sources to the list, but I will check if uni and multiverse is enabled, hold on
[02:19] <Syco54645> frederr, i dont know the exact path to your dvdrom
[02:19] <Syco54645> luminerd, well the /mnt/cdrom was just made up
[02:19] <Syco54645> luminerd, you need to know where you want to mount it to
[02:19] <helloyo> could anyone help me with e16? i can't find engage, and my gnome theme is crap
[02:20] <luminerd> Syco54645, I see, where do I mount it to then?
[02:20] <Blissex> Snippy: whats the output of 'ls -ld /var/lib/nvidia-nforce/nforce_log*'? You can paste here.
[02:20] <cafuego> !info firestarter
[02:20] <Syco54645> wait if ubuntu is so easy to use, shouldnt ivman be on it by default so that cds get automounted (assuming udev is used)
[02:20] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB
[02:20] <mebaran151> also, I have a dvd burner
[02:20] <mebaran151> but I can not enable dma
[02:20] <cafuego> Syco54645: Yes, which is what happens.
[02:20] <mebaran151> it gives me invalid argument
[02:20] <Syco54645> luminerd, well do an ls /mnt it should have a place for the cdrom if not mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[02:20] <Snippy> Blissex:  root@Snippy:/home/snippy # ls -ld /var/lib/nvidia-nforce/nforce_log*
[02:20] <Snippy> -rw-------  1 root root 391 2005-08-05 02:34 /var/lib/nvidia-nforce/nforce_log_audio
[02:20] <Syco54645> cafuego, so it does automount... then why did they ask how to mouint a cd
[02:20] <cafuego> Syco54645: It defaults to /media/cdrom
[02:21] <cafuego> Syco54645: Maybe the cd is broken and can't mount.
[02:21] <rapha> Hi all!
[02:21] <Blissex> Snippy: it is there and looks like you have installed only the audio. BTW, when running with '--uninstall', were you 'root'?
[02:21] <luminerd> Syco54645, special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[02:21] <cafuego> Syco54645: or maybe they broke the system or are running a custom kernel with missing features.
[02:21] <Syco54645> cafuego, ah ok... sorry never really used ubuntu, as i said earlier i am in a live cd just so that i can use a machine.... io got tired of the gfs windows machine
[02:21] <rapha> Under Breezy, when Firefox is not showing any text (menus, toolbars, viewport, everything), what could be the cause of that?
[02:21] <Syco54645> cafuego, is it running devfs, udev or something else
[02:22] <cafuego> Syco54645: udev
[02:22] <Syco54645> because the way that it names the cdroms isnt udev or devfs style
[02:22] <Snippy> Blissex: yes I Were root, in the normal terminal I got an error that I must run as root, so I did,
[02:22] <Blissex> rapha: that using 'breezy' is a very bad idea...
[02:22] <Syco54645> udev did a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 and /dev/cdroms/cdrom1
[02:22] <Snippy> Blissex: yes only audio because network was working fine
[02:22] <luminerd> Syco54645, umm, so what's mine?
[02:22] <rapha> Blissex: That's not very helpful, really...
[02:22] <Syco54645> cafuego, why is it different on here than every other udev that i have used?
[02:22] <Snippy> cafuego: where and how can I check if I have universe and multiverse enabled? cant find this option..
[02:22] <cafuego> Syco54645: The other udevs were crap?
[02:22] <Syco54645> luminerd, i am not sure, maybe cafuego will know as i have barely got to use ubuntu
[02:23] <luminerd> I see
[02:23] <Syco54645> cafuego, i dunno i thought i set it up well when i installed udev
[02:23] <cafuego> Syco54645: I think Ubuntu isn't much worried by traditional naming schemes if they suck to begin with.
[02:23] <luminerd> cafuego, do you know what my cdrom device is?  shouldn't it be /dev/cdrom?
[02:23] <frederr> Syco54645 hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd can be?
[02:23] <cafuego> luminerd: /dev/hdc probably
[02:23] <LinuxJones> luminerd, put a cdrom in your system and type mount
[02:23] <ubuntu> hola
[02:24] <luminerd> cafuego, hmm, spat out a bunch of buffer errors
[02:24] <frederr> hola ubuntu =)
[02:24] <luminerd> LinuxJones, oh lol
[02:24] <cafuego> luminerd: woohoo!
[02:24] <Blissex> Snippy: it may be that the uninstaller cannot cope with uninstalling just one half of the package...
[02:24] <ubuntu> de donde eres
[02:24] <cafuego> luminerd: Note I said "probably"
[02:24] <cafuego> !es
[02:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:24] <luminerd> LinuxJones, what should be the result of that
[02:24] <deprave_> what's the ubuntu equivilant to the Verdana font?
[02:24] <Blissex> Snippy: /msg me the contents of /var/lib/nvidia-nforce/nforce_log_audio
[02:24] <Snippy> Blissex: I dont think so, it asks me WHAT to uninstall and it only shows the audio drivers.. so it must know that I just installed the audio stuff..
[02:25] <helloyo> could somebody please help me install engage?
[02:25] <Blissex> Snippy: and then it fails?
[02:25] <cafuego> deprave_: Bitstream Vera Sans
[02:25] <deprave_> thanks
[02:25] <deprave_> you rock
[02:25] <deprave_> i can't believe you knew that.
[02:25] <deprave_> haha
[02:25] <Snippy> Blissex: yes, it says that theres nothing installed o_O
[02:25] <luminerd> LinuxJones, should this appear? http://pastebin.com/330361
[02:25] <rapha> Blissex: No idea apart from that?
[02:25] <_Moz_> brasileiros: #ubuntu-br , #ubuntu-pt
[02:25] <Syco54645> cafuego, true, but it is just hard to move from using other distros for a few years, to something that makes sence... this is linux it shouldnt make sence!!
[02:25] <Blissex> Snippy: then it is a bug...
[02:25] <Syco54645> lol
[02:25] <cafuego> deprave_: My sql database is teh r0x0r
[02:25] <Blissex> Snippy: but still /msg me the contents of /var/lib/nvidia-nforce/nforce_log_audio
[02:25] <frederr> any one knows how can i mount my windows hd?
[02:26] <helloyo> could somebody please help me install engage?
[02:26] <Blissex> frederr: yes.
[02:26] <cafuego> frederr: /msg ubotu vfat
[02:26] <Snippy> Blissex: okay hold on please
[02:26] <cafuego> frederr: Download the script it tells you about
[02:26] <frederr> ok
[02:27] <luminerd> alright I have a simple question - how do I burn a cd?  I can't burn a cd without mounting my blank cd correct?
[02:27] <luminerd> how do I mount it?
[02:27] <LinuxJones> luminerd, is it a working cdrom you have in there...(you can't use a blank cdrom)
[02:27] <cafuego> luminerd: You don't mount it.
[02:27] <lok> luminerd, nope
[02:27] <damneinstien> I need help with emifreq.. it works until I reboot. then it gives me a message saying that the daemon in control of changing cpu frequency is not running
[02:27] <cafuego> luminerd: Make an iso, burn it with cdrecord.
[02:27] <luminerd> ooooH!
[02:27] <luminerd> so no mounting necesarry!
[02:27] <Snippy> cafuego: where and how can I check if I have universe and multiverse enabled? cant find this option..
[02:27] <luminerd> ok sorry about that
[02:27] <luminerd> cdrecord file.iso?
[02:27] <mebaran151> could anyone help me figure out why my cdrom will not seek
[02:27] <lok> luminerd, mmh
[02:27] <ian> does Tomboy work in Hoary?
[02:27] <sml> i'll give a paypal donation to anyone who can help get my WLAN running!? :)
[02:27] <cafuego> Snippy: Start Synaptic, go to prefs -> repositories
[02:28] <lok> a easier way is to right click on the iso file
[02:28] <cafuego> !repos
[02:28] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:28] <lok> and "burn disk"
[02:28] <cafuego> What link has more info.
[02:28] <lok> cafuego, why use cdrecord
[02:28] <luminerd> sml laptop?
[02:28] <norhted> hi everyone, i want to install JAVA to my Ubuntu, what should i do?
[02:28] <Blissex> Snippy: then the easiest way out is just to delete all the files mentioned in that file.
[02:28] <cafuego> lok: That's not very useful, seeing as luminerd isn't running Gnome (or X for that matter)
[02:28] <Snippy> Blissex: is that safe?
[02:28] <Blissex> Snippy: it is only a few and it is safe.
[02:28] <luminerd> cafuego, umm...
[02:28] <sml> luminerd: yes .. broadcom .. ndiswrapper is installed and looks good.
[02:28] <luminerd> so is that right?
[02:29] <luminerd> sml, I have a broadcom in my laptop too!
[02:29] <Snippy> Blissex: ok thank you
[02:29] <Blissex> Snippy: run 'depmod -a 2.6.10-5-k7' afterwards.
[02:29] <luminerd> sml, may I /msg you?
[02:29] <cafuego> luminerd: 'sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdX -v -eject -data foo.iso'
[02:29] <norhted> helllooo, i want to install JAVA to my Ubuntu, any idea?
[02:29] <sml> luminerd : yes
[02:29] <sml> :)
[02:29] <Snippy> Blissex: what does this cmd do ?
[02:29] <damneinstien> anyone familiar with emifreq?
[02:29] <cafuego> luminerd: where /dev/hdX is the recorder device
[02:29] <lok> cafuego, dunno that he hasn't a working X
[02:29] <Blissex> Snippy: rebuild the list of available kernel modules
[02:29] <Snippy> Blissex: thanks, good to know
[02:30] <Syco54645> cafuego, i would really like to use ubuntu and be able to help people out here, so is there anything that you can recommend me reading so that the naming conventions will be explained to me?
[02:30] <Snippy> cafuego: I've got much in this list.. backports.. universes and multiverses
[02:30] <norhted> JAVA??
[02:30] <norhted> ??AVAJ
[02:30] <cafuego> Syco54645: I gave up when devfs was invented, I just use it, and it just works.. no idea what/how they do naming wise ;-)
[02:30] <cafuego> !tell norhted -about java
[02:31] <Snippy> Blissex: is there a command to delete the file(s) directly? or do I have to browse the folders?
[02:31] <_icebreaker_> how can i add new entries to the startmenu
[02:31] <Syco54645> cafuego, i think devfs was an honest effort to bring over the bsd device node naming crap, but it was a terrible implementation... udev is much better
[02:31] <Blissex> cafuego: GKH has deleted 'devfs' starting next kernel release.
[02:31] <cafuego> Blissex: yeah
[02:31] <Blissex> Syco54645: 'udev' is even worse, in particular it is amazingly complicated. Hob security for GKH I guess.
[02:32] <Blissex> Snippy: just 'rm .....' from the command line.
[02:32] <linfreak> is anyone here running ubuntu at a rez higher than 800x600?
[02:32] <_icebreaker_> me
[02:32] <LinuxJones> _icebreaker_, you can search the wiki for smeg, download and install using dpkg -i smegfile.deb
[02:32] <Blissex> Snippy: as in 'rm /usr/share/doc/nforce//ReleaseNotes.html /usr/bin/nvmixer ....' and so on
[02:32] <linfreak> what is it?
[02:32] <cafuego> lok: 2048x1536
[02:32] <cafuego> eh, linfreak even
[02:33] <Snippy> okay thank you
[02:33] <linfreak> well then, it's just me
[02:33] <mcphail> sml: I've got a rebadged broadcom PC card in my laptop. Works under ndiswrapper, but only with a specific driver
[02:33] <luminerd> cafuego, what is my recorder device?
[02:33] <cafuego> luminerd: How should I know?
[02:33] <Blissex> Syco54645: as to the 'devfs' naming conventions, they were forced onto 'devfs' by Linus himself.
[02:33] <cafuego> luminerd: dmesg | grep CDR -> what does that say?
[02:33] <Blissex> luminerd: do this: 'head -1 /proc/ide/hd*/model'
[02:34] <luminerd> cafuego, returns nothing
[02:34] <Blissex> luminerd: that will give you a list of all ATA peripherals and their type and model name.
[02:34] <luminerd> Blissex, invalid option -l
[02:34] <cafuego> luminerd: what Blissex said then
[02:34] <cafuego> luminerd: ONE, not L
[02:34] <luminerd> oh
[02:34] <luminerd> sorry
[02:34] <cafuego> Your font sucks ;-)
[02:34] <Syco54645> Blissex, please explain to me why then in mandrake and gentoo (both distros that i have used and now hate) named stuff as /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 but ubuntu does a /dev/cdrom0
[02:35] <Syco54645> Blissex, that just confuses me
[02:35] <cafuego> Syco54645: /dev/cdom0 is just a link to /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 is it not?
[02:35] <luminerd> ==> /proc/ide/hda/model <==WDC WD800BB-22JHC0
[02:35] <Blissex> Syco54645: '/dev/cdroms/cdrom0' is the ''canonical'', Linus-imposed naming scheme, the other is the historical one.
[02:35] <linfreak> anyone know of a place to get ATI drivers?
[02:35] <cafuego> luminerd: That's an *)GB WD Harddisk, not a dvdrw/cdrw
[02:35] <Blissex> luminerd: if that is all, you don't have a CD/DVD recorder.
[02:35] <linfreak> the one ubuntu has installed won't work out, i can't go higher than an 800x600 res
[02:36] <Syco54645> cafuego, i dunno when used cdcord with '/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 it said it wasnt found
[02:36] <cafuego> !fixres
[02:36] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <linfreak> oh yes
[02:36] <Blissex> linfreak: almost surely it is a monitor parameters issue, nothing to do with the driver, so look at the Wiki.
[02:36] <linfreak> forgot about the almight wiki
[02:36] <linfreak> *almighty
[02:36] <luminerd> Blissex, yes I do
[02:36] <luminerd> there's another
[02:36] <cafuego> teh wiki pwnz y00
[02:36] <luminerd> one sec
[02:36] <linfreak> lol
[02:36] <luminerd> ==> /proc/ide/hdc/model <==LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-4836V
[02:37] <Syco54645> Blissex, yeah when i do a cd /dev/cdroms i get nothing in there... is it because the live cd or something?
[02:37] <Snippy> Blissex: I'm done rm'ing the files, I will restart the PC to see the result, okay? I will come back
[02:37] <cafuego> luminerd: So, your recorder is /dev/hdc
[02:37] <Blissex> Syco54645: if you wait a bit I can find you a nice explanation of all the issues.
[02:37] <luminerd> cafuego, oh ok thanks
[02:37] <Syco54645> Blissex, that would be great
[02:37] <Blissex> luminerd: so it is sometyhing like this for writing an image:
[02:37] <Syco54645> Blissex, can i ask that you pm it to me?
[02:38] <Blissex> luminerd: cdrecord -dev ATAPI:/dev/hdc -fs 6000k -sao -data image.iso'
[02:38] <Madpilot> hi all
[02:38] <Blissex> Syco54645: it is surely a URL, wait...
[02:38] <Madpilot> just noticed that the latest Hoary update contains a bunch of
[02:38] <Syco54645> Blissex, ok its just that i am going to go watch a movie ;)
[02:38] <luminerd> thanks Blissex
[02:38] <cafuego> Madpilot: what?
[02:38] <sproingie> stupid question: if i get the linux-source package, the tarball already has ubuntu's patches applied, right?
[02:38] <deathllama> brb
[02:38] <Madpilot> blasted Enter key - ...contains a bunch of Apache updates
[02:38] <Eddie> How do I install KDE on 4.1.0 without kubuntu. I'm new to linux, thanks
[02:38] <Blissex> Syco54645: OK, ill msg the URL
[02:39] <cafuego> Madpilot: Yeah, there was some apache cache/apache2 ssl malarkey
[02:39] <Madpilot> should I restart my Apache install?
[02:39] <Syco54645> Blissex, ok thanks
[02:39] <sproingie> Eddie: apt-get install kdebase will do it
[02:39] <cafuego> Madpilot: Surely the updater restarted apache for you?
[02:39] <Blissex> Eddie: you should really update to 5.04...
[02:39] <sproingie> Eddie: you'll probably want to get other stuff as well
[02:39] <Eddie> blissex, do I need to reinstall linux?
[02:39] <cafuego> Madpilot: Mind you, these aren't particularly BAD bugs..
[02:39] <Blissex> Eddie: however, let me have a look. There are some _old_ packages that are compatible with 4.10
[02:40] <Blissex> Eddie: no, as a rule you can just upgrade everything using 'apt-get'. If you have an ADSL connection it is not going to take a long time either.
[02:40] <luminerd> Supported modes:cdrecord: Drive does not support SAO recording.cdrecord: Illegal write mode for this drive.
[02:40] <Madpilot> cafuego: it's updating as we speak, so it hasn't done anything to Apache yet - but it'll restart automatically I guess?
[02:40] <Eddie> ok, blissex what command do I use to upgrade my ubuntu?
[02:40] <Blissex> luminerd: then switch to '-tao'. Are you trying to record a DVD?
[02:40] <cafuego> Madpilot: Yeah. I doubt your install is vulnerable, though.
[02:40] <luminerd> Blissex, no, cd
[02:41] <Blissex> Eddie: well, that would be 'apt-get upgrade', but you need to add a URL to the mirror for the more recent release.
[02:41] <Madpilot> cafuego: it's not, it only serves localhost & is behind a router in any case. I was just wondering
[02:41] <luminerd> but I'm doing it via ssh could that be a prob?
[02:41] <cafuego> Madpilot: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce  :-)
[02:41] <Blissex> luminerd: no, no prob.
[02:41] <Blissex> luminerd: I am a bit astonished that there is a CD writer that does not support SAO mode.
[02:41] <DukGalNamu> how do i edit my screen key bindings?
[02:41] <Snippy> Blissex: I'm back
[02:41] <helloyo> could anyone help me setup enlightenment?
[02:41] <eruin> anyone here know how to make torrents?
[02:42] <luminerd> Blissex, well, it's an emachine
[02:42] <Snippy> Blissex: it seems to work, no more error message at startup and it shows the alsa stuff again
[02:42] <luminerd> lol
[02:42] <Snippy> Blissex: but still.. no sound
[02:42] <_icebreaker_> how can i change applicationmenu entries
[02:42] <Madpilot> cafuego: thnx
[02:42] <DukGalNamu> anyone?
[02:42] <DukGalNamu> screen keybindings?
[02:42] <DukGalNamu> is it that difficult?
[02:42] <Snippy> cafuego: I still dont find firewalls in synaptic..
[02:43] <Madpilot> Snippy: Firestarter
[02:43] <Blissex> Snippy: so check carefully the troubleshooting section of http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html as well as the application config section
[02:43] <Blissex> Eddie: dont msg people without asking.
[02:43] <luminerd> Blissex, so I change to  cdrecord -dev ATAPI:/dev/hdc -fs 6000k -tao -data CentOS-4.1-i386-bin4of4.iso?
[02:43] <Snippy> Blissex: yes I will, thank you
[02:43] <Blissex> luminerd: yes, that would be nice.
[02:43] <Eddie> sorry
[02:44] <DukGalNamu> anyone??
[02:44] <Snippy> Madpilot: thanks but I dont find it
[02:44] <luminerd> cdrecord: Drive does not support TAO recording.
[02:44] <Blissex> Eddie: all you have to do is to add a couple lines to '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:44] <DukGalNamu> ...
[02:44] <Blissex> luminerd: that's really impossible.
[02:44] <DukGalNamu> no one here uses screen?
[02:44] <luminerd> Blissex, what's up with it then?
[02:44] <Blissex> luminerd: uhm, drop the '-data' then. But should not make any difference.
[02:44] <luminerd> Blissex, did the attempts to mount it mess things up?
[02:45] <Madpilot> Snippy: do you have Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?
[02:45] <equex_> anyone have any idea why my keyboard is quite often hanging up and repeating keys and other weird artifacts ?
[02:45] <Snippy> cafuego, madpilot.. oh my.. nevermind.. I found everything now.. I just searched by "name" <_<
[02:45] <Blissex> luminerd: if so, it would give more errors than just that one.
[02:45] <Eddie> where would I find these couple of lines?
[02:45] <luminerd> Blissex, didn't change anything
[02:45] <Blissex> Eddie: wait a bit... On the Wiki of course.
[02:45] <Snippy> Madpilot: yes I have manually added repos to the list, lots of em..
[02:45] <Eddie> thanks
[02:45] <luminerd> Blissex, hmm, thinks it's a dvd?
[02:45] <luminerd> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
[02:46] <luminerd> though it also has Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
[02:46] <Madpilot> Snippy: OK, it's just that "enable repos" is the most common answer to "I can't find <foo>" around here! ;)
[02:46] <Blissex> luminerd: hey, that's not a _writer_.
[02:46] <luminerd> it's a cd burner
[02:46] <Snippy> hehe
[02:46] <Blissex> luminerd: not according to itself.
[02:46] <luminerd> DVD/CD-RW Combo drive
[02:46] <Snippy> Madpilot: got another problem now..
[02:46] <Blissex> luminerd: I have a writer and a reader and they get reported as:
[02:47] <Blissex> ==> /proc/ide/hde/model <==
[02:47] <Blissex> TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612
[02:47] <Blissex> ==> /proc/ide/hdg/model <==
[02:47] <Blissex> PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105
[02:47] <Snippy> Madpilot: I selected firestarter..:
[02:47] <Snippy> madpilot: E: I wasn't able to locate file for the firestarter package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[02:47] <Snippy> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:47] <luminerd> Blissex, it's not a dvd-rw
[02:47] <luminerd> mine's not
[02:47] <Blissex> luminerd: but it should be reported as a writer regardless.
[02:47] <mcphail> luminerd: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord?
[02:47] <luminerd> shall I try what _moz_ gave me?  cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom file.iso --driveropts=burnfre
[02:47] <Blissex> luminerd: its the same...
[02:47] <Madpilot> Snippy: double check the repos, then! Firestarter is in Universe
[02:47] <luminerd> minus the -tao stuff lol
[02:47] <Madpilot> Snippy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:47] <Blissex> luminerd: however, try with neither '-tao' nor '-sao'
[02:48] <Blissex> luminerd: however the really perplexing news is that combos should report themselves as writers and readers.
[02:48] <luminerd> Blissex, it works
[02:48] <luminerd> Blissex, it worked :D
[02:48] <abydos> does ubuntu's version of apache come with mod_userdir enabled by default?
[02:48] <luminerd> yay
[02:48] <Blissex> luminerd: with neither? Weird.
[02:49] <abydos> disregard my last statement, thanks
[02:49] <_icebreaker_> need some help with xmms. when i try to play a audifile it hangs and i can only exit with the kill cmd
[02:49] <Blissex> luminerd: because CD writers in data mode can operate in SAO or TAO mode, and thats about it.
[02:49] <Madpilot> back in a minute - phone...
[02:49] <luminerd> Blissex, http://pastebin.com/330368 that right?
[02:49] <Eddie> Blissex, I did ``apt-get update'' and waited for it to finish, I have to reboot to have version 5?
[02:49] <cavediver> Who was it that talked to me about BBS100 '?
[02:49] <Snippy> Madpilot: well,.. I didnt changed anything and it worked now.. oO
[02:50] <cavediver> cafuego: still here ?
[02:50] <luminerd> brb
[02:50] <Blissex> Eddie: 'update' is not the same as 'upgrade', it just updates the _list_ of available packages, does not download or install them.
[02:50] <Snippy> ok guys, my last question for today
[02:50] <Eddie> oh no, I did upgrade
[02:50] <Eddie> sorry
[02:51] <luminerd> back
[02:51] <Snippy> I added games, tools, etc.. to my ubuntu.. now how can I make them display in the Applications menu in the head of my screen ?
[02:51] <Snippy> I always have to enter the apps name to launch it..
[02:51] <Nariman> does someon know how to install wine??
[02:51] <Nariman> or any similar program
[02:51] <luminerd> success = Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 236134400/236134400 (115300 sectors) ???
[02:51] <luminerd> Nariman, not on ubuntu :/ I'm more of a source person
[02:52] <Eddie> Blissex, I did upgrade, what should I do now?
[02:52] <luminerd> should be somethin like sudo aptitude install wine
[02:52] <Madpilot> Snippy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile
[02:52] <Blissex> Eddie: but did you add the 5.04 sources to '/etc/apt/sources.list'?
[02:53] <Eddie> I have to do it manual?
[02:53] <Eddie> *manually
[02:53] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Eddie about repos
[02:53] <Blissex> Eddie: yes, manually. There are full instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryHedgehog
[02:54] <Snippy> Madpilot: ouch. so I have to manually make the .desktop files?
[02:54] <Blissex> Eddie: under "How to upgrade to Hoary", and it is not complicated.
[02:54] <Blissex> Eddie: in particular: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[02:54] <Eddie> thanks alot
[02:54] <Madpilot> Snippy: pretty much. I made one for Opera - or copied one, really.
[02:55] <Snippy> so I just copy them and edit a bit, easy..
[02:55] <claude> hi, i have a little sound problem... i have just installed ubuntu hoary 5.04 and i have no sound with my audigy 2 ... "lsmod | grep snd" give me no result and i cant get anything to play any idea ?
[02:55] <Snippy> madpilot: /usr/share/applications/ is the right folder for the .desktop files?
[02:55] <Madpilot> Snippy: see the Opera one here for pointers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:55] <Blissex> Eddie: once you have upgraded to 5.04, then KDE is easy, all you do is to install the meta-package 'kubuntu-desktop'
[02:56] <Madpilot> Snippy: supposedly *everything* in Breezy repos will have a .desktop file
[02:56] <Blissex> Eddie: there is a FAQ here: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php under "I already have Ubuntu installed, how can I get Kubuntu?"
[02:56] <Blissex> claude: follow the troubleshooting guide here: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[02:57] <claude> ok thank you blissex :)
[02:57] <Snippy> Madpilot: what do you mean with Breezy?
[02:57] <claude> ill try it
[02:57] <drcode> hi all
[02:57] <Madpilot> Snippy: Breezy Badger is the next version of Ubuntu, due out in October
[02:57] <drcode> can I logout someone that did login local into xfce from remote?
[02:58] <Snippy> Madpilot, aahh I see, thanks for the info :)
[02:58] <glick> hey
[02:58] <Madpilot> hi glick
[02:58] <glick> hey after i have firewall set up i dont need the video card in the machine anymore do i?
[02:58] <glick> sup Madpilot
[02:58] <sproingie> glick: might be nice if you want to monitor it
[02:58] <glick> firewall = smoothwall
[02:59] <Madpilot> glick: it's Friday. I have three days off. it's sunny. this is all good. ;)
[02:59] <glick> hehe
[02:59] <yanfox> bonsoir
[02:59] <Blissex> drcode: yes.
[02:59] <Eddie> Blissex, ok, I did the synaptic thing what do I do now? reboot?
[02:59] <yanfox> sorry... error of chan
[02:59] <Blissex> Eddie: I cant believe it was that quick. How fast is your network connection?
[03:00] <Eddie> lan
[03:00] <glick> im so happy cause i finally got a smoothwall box
[03:00] <Eddie> regular cable
[03:00] <Eddie> atleast, I think it's done
[03:00] <Eddie> looks like it
[03:00] <drcode> how?
[03:00] <Blissex> Eddie: it should have downloaded a couple hundred MB at least...
[03:00] <luminerd> shame I have to leave you guys, you've been helpful to me.  But the distro is crap, at least on these machines, so this is it.  goodbye =)
[03:00] <Blissex> drcode: kill the shell process
[03:00] <Eddie> =\
[03:00] <Eddie> weird
[03:01] <sproingie> wow, the guy still had trouble
[03:01] <Eddie> it took a few seconds
[03:01] <sproingie> i guess that's what happens when you try to run a business on emachines boxen
[03:01] <Blissex> hehehehe he is switching to CentOS, that will be fund :-)
[03:01] <Eddie> I don't know why
[03:01] <Eddie> I did all it said
[03:01] <Blissex> Eddie: that's practically impossible.
[03:01] <sproingie> Blissex: i wish him the best of luck with that hardware
[03:01] <benplaut> hello everyone :)
[03:01] <benplaut> !hello
[03:01] <ubotu> I don't know, benplaut
[03:01] <cefx> Yo.
[03:01] <cefx> What ftpD do you guys reccomend?
[03:01] <cefx> pure or pro?
[03:02] <D1> I use vsftpd I think its called.
[03:02] <albacker> cefx, maybe gftp would be good :)
[03:02] <sproingie> Blissex: though iirc his problem was with suspend/resume, and i havent found a linux yet that didn't have problems with it
[03:02] <cefx> daemon
[03:02] <D1> easy to configure.
[03:02] <cefx> not client
[03:02] <Eddie> never mind
[03:02] <albacker> oh :( shit.
[03:02] <Eddie> I'm downloading all the updates now
[03:02] <cefx> D1: yeah? Kickass.  Easy meaning good configuration files and documentation?
[03:02] <D1> yeah
[03:02] <ubuntu> hi there
[03:02] <drcode> by ps -ax?
[03:02] <Blissex> Eddie: OK, I guess you had forgotten something...
[03:02] <D1> the config is pretty straight forward.
[03:02] <Eddie> yup
[03:03] <Eddie> forgot apply lol
[03:03] <cafuego> cefx: What will you be using it for?
[03:03] <claude> Blissex: I can't get what I need to get my sound card working :S
[03:03] <Eddie> I'm way too new to linux, I've been using it for under 10 hours
[03:03] <Nariman> need help installing wine
[03:03] <Nariman> can enyone help me??
[03:03] <benplaut> ubotu tell Nariman about wine
[03:04] <cefx> cafuego: someone uploading a few things to me
[03:04] <claude> Blissex: I have no /proc/asound
[03:04] <cefx> I'm just gonna try vsftpd
[03:04] <cafuego> cefx: *nod*
[03:04] <claude> cefx: vsftpd work great
[03:05] <Blissex> claude: that means you have not loaded the ALSA drivers for your card.
[03:05] <cefx> 022 is for read
[03:05] <cefx> What would I need for someone to be able to write, 077?
[03:05] <Blissex> claude: you may have the OSS ones, which is not good, or none at all.
[03:05] <cafuego> cefx: Eh, what? 755 on a dir they own.
[03:05] <claude> Blissex: I think it none at all... how can I load ALSA drivers ?
[03:06] <cefx> cafuego, for someone to be able to upload and ergo write to a DIR they may or may not own (virtual users)
[03:07] <cafuego> cefx: xx7 (they'd be 'other')
[03:07] <catphive> I have a sound issue with a soundmax card where on centrino chipset where the driver seems to be installed, but I get no sound whatsoever. anyone have any ideas?
[03:07] <cafuego> cefx: Mebbe even 1777
[03:07] <catphive> is anyone familiar with sound issues on linux?
[03:07] <claude> catphive : If you do aplay -l ?
[03:08] <catphive> I get two subdevices.
[03:09] <claude> catphive: Could you print the result here ?
[03:09] <catphive>   Subdevices: 0/1
[03:09] <catphive>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:09] <catphive> card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] , device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - IEC958] 
[03:09] <catphive>   Subdevices: 1/1
[03:09] <catphive>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:10] <crimsun> catphive: cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:10] <levander> Nautilus has a log so that I can see what is causing these dvd's to fail to burn?
[03:10] <claude> Blissex: Do you know how can I manually load ALSA drivers ?
[03:10] <Snippy> ok guys, I'm offline now thanks for your great help Blissex, cafuego, Madpilot, you guys a great, thanks..
[03:11] <crimsun> catphive: paste the output from amixer onto the topic pastebin
[03:11] <Snippy> good night my friends
[03:11] <cafuego> Yes, we are.
[03:11] <claude> nite snippy
[03:11] <Madpilot> night Snippy
[03:12] <catphive> pastebin?
[03:12] <Eddie> Blissex, download is done, when the terminal finishes executing what do I do?
[03:13] <_andy> can anybody tell me how to copy text in konversation?
[03:13] <_andy> conrol C doesn't work...
[03:13] <cafuego> _andy: Just selecting it should have copied.
[03:13] <Xenguy> _andy: not sure, but will middle-click paste?
[03:13] <Madpilot> _andy: highlight & middle-click. coolest thing in Linux!
[03:13] <Blissex> claude: with 'modprobe snd-<driver name>'
[03:13] <claude> Blissex: Thanks :)
[03:14] <benplaut> Madpilot: most annoygin thing in linux on a thinkpad!
[03:14] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[03:14] <catphive>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:14] <catphive>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Left: Playback 25 [81%]  [on] 
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Right: Playback 25 [81%]  [on] 
[03:14] <catphive> Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
[03:14] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
[03:14] <catphive>   Playback channels: Mono
[03:14] <catphive>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[03:14] <catphive>   Mono: Playback 23 [74%]  [off] 
[03:14] <_andy> how do i middle click, my touchpad has only got 2 buttons
[03:14] <catphive> Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
[03:14] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[03:14] <_andy> a right and a lft button
[03:14] <catphive>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:14] <benplaut> ubotu tell catphive about pastebin
[03:14] <catphive>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Left: Playback 23 [74%]  [on] 
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Right: Playback 23 [74%]  [on] 
[03:14] <catphive> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
[03:14] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[03:14] <cafuego> _andy: If you click both simultaneously, it will paste.
[03:14] <catphive>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:14] <catphive>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[03:14] <Blissex> Eddie: when the download is finished, which is unlikely to be so fast, it shall start installing, and takes a bit of time.
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Left: Playback 22 [71%]  [on] 
[03:14] <Madpilot> ubotu tell catphive about paste
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Right: Playback 22 [71%]  [on] 
[03:14] <catphive> Simple mixer control 'Line',0
[03:14] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
[03:14] <benplaut> go crimsun! go!
[03:14] <catphive>   Capture exclusive group: 0
[03:14] <catphive>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:14] <catphive>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:14] <catphive>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Left: Playback 26 [84%]  [off]  Capture [off] 
[03:14] <Eddie> the unraring?
[03:14] <catphive>   Front Right: Playback 26 [84%]  [off]  Capture [off] 
[03:14] <catphive> Simple mixer control 'CD',0
[03:15] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
[03:15] <catphive>   Capture exclusive group: 0
[03:15] <catphive>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:15] <Eddie> and all that?
[03:15] <catphive>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
[03:15] <catphive>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[03:15] <benplaut> umm
[03:15] <catphive>   Front Left: Playback 22 [71%]  [on]  Capture [off] 
[03:15] <Eddie> the download seems to be done
[03:15] <Blissex> Eddie: sort of like 'unrar' and then running setup scripts.
[03:15] <benplaut> crimsun?
[03:15] <catphive>   Front Right: Playback 22 [71%]  [on]  Capture [off] 
[03:15] <catphive> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
[03:15] <blakaminn> blissex: sorry, can you kill blakamin... there seems to be a problem, houston!
[03:15] <catphive>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
[03:15] <cefx> catphive quit spamming
[03:15] <cefx> geez
[03:15] <Eddie> it's just executing now..
[03:15] <LED_scorched> I need help with using a palm with Ubuntu
[03:15] <benplaut> thanks, crimsun
[03:15] <crimsun> catphive: read the topic
[03:15] <Madpilot> catphive: nice paste job, my man...
[03:15] <cafuego> !tell catphive -about paste
[03:15] <claude> Blissex: I got all my snd modules with lsmod | grep snd now... but still cannot play sound :S
[03:15] <Madpilot> cafuego: I think about four of us have already pasted the guy! ;)
[03:16] <benplaut> hehe
[03:16] <cefx> Anyone know how to friggin addusers in vsftpd?
[03:16] <benplaut> !lart spamming
[03:16] <Blissex> Eddie: good, once that is done, look at the "Post-Upgrade" and "Comments" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[03:16] <cafuego> Madpilot: Looks like another few wouldn't hurt ;-)
[03:16] <claude> Blissex: aplay -l return me no soundcards found
[03:16] <Eddie> ok thanks
[03:16] <Blissex> claude: and '/proc/asound/cards'?
[03:16] <Eddie> and I'm having one more problem and I don't know if you can help me
[03:16] <Nariman> WTF?!?!
[03:16] <Nariman> WINE Installer v0.75
[03:16] <Nariman> Running configure...
[03:16] <Nariman> configure: creating cache config.cache
[03:16] <Nariman> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[03:16] <Nariman> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[03:16] <Nariman> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[03:16] <blakaminn> it mst be audio error day
[03:16] <Nariman> checking for gcc... no
[03:16] <Nariman> checking for cc... no
[03:16] <Nariman> checking for cc... no
[03:16] <Nariman> checking for cl... no
[03:16] <Blissex> Eddie: but basically just rebooting should most work.
[03:16] <Madpilot> benplaut: no middle click on a Thinkpad?
[03:16] <Nariman> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:16] <LED_scorched> Can any one help me get my palm working with Ubuntu
[03:16] <Nariman> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:17] <Madpilot> Ah, more mad pasting! run while you still can!
[03:17] <benplaut> Madpilot: no, that's the problem. there is middle click
[03:17] <cafuego> Nariman: 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[03:17] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Nariman about paste
[03:17] <LED_scorched> i'm having trouble getting it to interact with the included software
[03:17] <cafuego> it _is_ weekend, innit?
[03:17] <claude> Blissex: It return me --- no soundcards ---
[03:17] <Nariman> cafuego, ive done that
[03:17] <scythe> hello all you happy people
[03:17] <Eddie> when I try to get firefox extensions it gives me the small install screen which I press, but when I restart firefox the extension isn't there
[03:17] <benplaut> Madpilot: but most thinkpad'ers like to use the trackpoint (little erasor head), and the middle button acts as scroll. it's very efficient
[03:17] <Nariman> but now its time to compile it
[03:17] <Blissex> claude: then you loaded the wrong driver :-)
[03:17] <Madpilot> benplaut: never used a Thinkpad - how is it's mid-click different?
[03:17] <MikeW> The ubuntu login screen completely ignores my keyboard mapping and reverts to qwerty. Is there an easy way to set it?
[03:17] <crimsun> catphive: amixer sset 'Headphone' off
[03:18] <crimsun> catphive: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[03:18] <Blissex> claude: or there is no driver that supports your sound card.
[03:18] <Nariman> and ie downloaded sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[03:18] <claude> Blissex: it's not emuk10 for audigy 2 ?
[03:18] <Madpilot> benplaut: ah, OK. plug a real mouse in then - mid-click is both scroll and a button!
[03:18] <Blissex> claude: should be...
[03:18] <blakaminn> crimsun: can you kill blakamin... he's me but he wont go away
[03:18] <cafuego> blakaminn: /msg nickserv help
[03:18] <Blissex> claude: but which Audigy 2?
[03:18] <blakaminn> crimsun: i even re-booted to kill me
[03:18] <claude> Blissex: Hum very good question
[03:18] <blakaminn> cheers
[03:19] <crimsun> blakaminn: you can ghost that client.
[03:19] <claude> Blissez: cheapest ? lol
[03:19] <LED_scorched> MikeW, just curious, what layout you using?
[03:19] <claude> Blissex *
[03:19] <Nariman>  no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:19] <Nariman> what does that mean?
[03:19] <Blissex> claude: perhaps it is a variant that is not supported yet.
[03:19] <Nariman> ive just installed an compiler
[03:19] <claude> Blissex: any idea how can I find it without opening the case ?
[03:20] <scythe> which one nariman?
[03:20] <MikeW> LED_scorched: dvorak
[03:20] <Blissex> claude: 'lspci'
[03:20] <Blissex> claude: 'lspci | grep audio'
[03:20] <Nariman> sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[03:20] <claude> Blissex: 0000:05:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[03:20] <Eddie> I'm getting errors when I try to run program, is this because I'm updating?
[03:20] <blakaminn> /msg nickserv identify
[03:20] <Blissex> claude: which version of Ubuntu have you got?
[03:21] <claude> Blissex: Hoary 5.04
[03:21] <Nariman> sudo apt-get install bison flex
[03:21] <Blissex> claude: is that the PCMCIA version?
[03:21] <cafuego> Nariman: xlibs-dev isn't a compiler.
[03:21] <scythe> nariman, thats not a compiler, try sudo apt get install gcc
[03:21] <Nariman> sudo apt-get install bison flex
[03:21] <claude> Blissex: Nope it's not a laptop
[03:21] <Nariman> isnt that a compiler?
[03:21] <cafuego> Nariman: 1) If you know this little, you shouldn't be compiling software. 2) install 'build-essential'.
[03:21] <Blissex> claude: check out also http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaDrivers while I have a look at what the '0008' device code is about.
[03:22] <cafuego> !info bison
[03:22] <Nariman> cafuego:????
[03:22] <ubotu> bison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.875d-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 643 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[03:22] <claude> Blissex: Ok thanks
[03:22] <scythe> nariman, i dont know about bison or flex, apt get g++ and gcc, those are the most commonly used
[03:22] <hubsi> what's the name of this X-devel packages... that i need to install WineX
[03:22] <LED_scorched> Can any one help me get my palm working with Ubuntu?
[03:22] <Nariman> ok
[03:22] <blakaminn> crimsun: registered nick but still cant kill old me! says nick in use
[03:22] <Nariman> thnc
[03:22] <cafuego> bison and flex are  parsers normally used to crate compilers
[03:22] <scythe> so thats how you get info pages!!!, i never knew that, i just rumaged the man pages till i was sick
[03:22] <scythe> :)
[03:23] <scythe> that bad cafuego?
[03:23] <cafuego> Why do all these people insist on compiling software when they obviously have no idea?
[03:23] <cafuego> scythe: yep
[03:23] <scythe> dont like man pages??, they give me headaches
[03:23] <gorilla_> hi all, I'm considering purchasing a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro USB joystick for use with flightgear under ubuntu. Any opinions?
[03:24] <claude> Blissex: Just found it emu10k1 - Creative SBLive! (EMU10K1), Audigy, Audigy 2 and Audigy 2 Value :S
[03:24] <gorilla_> cafuego, I have no flipent idea.
[03:24] <_andy> can anybody tell me the difference between sudo and kdesu?
[03:24] <LED_scorched> My Palm M105 doesnt work with the included palmOS software in Ubuntu... any one know how to fix this?
[03:24] <ompaul> LinuxJones, a thought just occured to me was yer man using a ps 2 mouse and a serial keyboard with the mouse in the PS2 keybaord slot :)
[03:25] <scythe> i love my mac kb so much, i am getting one for my pc!! sorry, just a random moment
[03:25] <gorilla_> _andy, sudo is command line, kdesu is a gui tool for kde :-)
[03:25] <Blissex> claude: it is an Audigy 2 Value, but!
[03:25] <crimsun> Blissex: did claude paste his amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[03:25] <claude> crimsun: ?
[03:26] <Blissex> crimsun: na, his '/proc/asound/cards' is emopty, so he has bigger problems than that.
[03:26] <crimsun> Blissex: ah.
[03:26] <_andy> thanks gorilla :)
[03:26] <crimsun> claude: have you tried the alsa-source package in hoary/universe?
[03:26] <claude> crimsun: yea tried to load emu10k1
[03:26] <crimsun> !tell claude about alsa-source
[03:26] <LED_scorched> Any one else have problems gettign palms to work with ubuntu?
[03:26] <woody> wow
[03:27] <claude> crimsun: I should try this command ?
[03:27] <cafuego> ubotu: compiling is <reply> Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.
[03:27] <ubotu> okay, cafuego
[03:28] <Blissex> claude: problem is, in http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=emu10k1 there is a note dated "2005-01-01 Latest News" that says you need a patch... But it is old.
[03:28] <claude> Blissex: :S
[03:28] <jared> how do I install DCOM98.exe in wine?, just copy it to c:/windows/system?
[03:28] <Blissex> claude: so follow <cafuego>'s hint to look for a newer package which may include the patch already.
[03:28] <Blissex> jared: you got to run it, it is an installer. It might not work under Wine.
[03:28] <claude> Blissex: Ok and in the newer package I should load again the emu10k1 ?
[03:29] <Blissex> claude: yes.
[03:29] <Eddie> Blissex, my desktop seems to have frozen, is this because of the updating?
[03:29] <Blissex> claude: make sure of course it is 'snd-emu10k1'
[03:29] <ompaul> !ruby
[03:29] <ubotu> well, ruby is http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/
[03:29] <LED_scorched> I have Palm Troubles
[03:29] <claude> Blissex: Ok i'll try that
[03:29] <benplaut> broken fingers?
[03:29] <Blissex> Eddie: yes, unpacking large packages can cause so much IO that everything else is frozen out.
[03:30] <Eddie> ok
[03:30] <misfit_toy> LED_scorched, hair on the palms?
[03:30] <blakaminn> can someone kill me as a user please!!! blakamin... one "n"
[03:30] <LED_scorched> as in PalmPilot :p
[03:30] <claude> Blissex: Just a probaly stupid question but how can I do that (1) Enable the universe repository
[03:30] <DonL> cut those big trees down
[03:30] <misfit_toy> LED_scorched, do you have jpilot installed?
[03:30] <deprave_> anyone know how to make a link on text on a picture in NVU?
[03:30] <Blissex> claude: adding it to '/etc/apt/sources.list'... Two links to follows.
[03:30] <LED_scorched> misfit_toy: nope
[03:30] <claude> Blissex: Oh ok ty :)
[03:30] <misfit_toy> LED_scorched, try that, it works for me
[03:31] <LED_scorched> cool
[03:31] <Blissex> claude: in general this is very important to understand APT: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[03:31] <LED_scorched> ty
[03:31] <misfit_toy> np
[03:31] <scythe> how do i switch my external interface from wired to wireless for net surfing?
[03:31] <Blissex> claude: and this specifically for Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:32] <blakaminn> flarg3: can you please kick the other me... blakamin
[03:32] <blakaminn> flarg3: i cant get me to quit
[03:32] <hondje> blakaminn: if its' registered nickserv can, with recover and release
[03:32] <[CJ] fLaRg3> ok
[03:32] <[CJ] fLaRg3> cant
[03:32] <LED_scorched> misfit_toy: you got a URl for that, by chance?
[03:32] <[CJ] fLaRg3> sorry
[03:33] <blakaminn> hondje: its not registered and everytime I want to be me it says nick in use
[03:33] <blakaminn> hondje: kick my a$$!!!
[03:33] <hondje> I'm not an op, sorry
[03:34] <blakaminn> bugga
[03:34] <cafuego> blakaminn: Just wait for the timeout, then register it.
[03:34] <hondje> it'll time out eventually
[03:34] <ompaul> blakaminn it will time out
[03:34] <blakaminn> tried to do it in nickserv and it says its not registered
[03:34] <claude> crimson: Should I compile ALSA drivers with ISA pnp ?
[03:34] <LED_scorched> misfit_toy: you got a URL for that, by chance?
[03:34] <blakaminn> been waiting an hour.... damn cable
[03:34] <Eddie> Blissex, ok, unpacking and all is done, what should I do now?
[03:34] <cefx> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[03:34] <cefx> wtfux
[03:34] <claude> crimsun: Should I compile ALSA drivers with ISA pnp ?
[03:34] <ompaul> blakaminn,  when it times out register it and all sorts of good stuff
[03:35] <flodine> is there a way to make gdesklets taskbar transparent?
[03:35] <blakaminn> lol... i'll die before it times out.... might unplug my router
[03:35] <deprave_> anyone know how to make a link on text on a picture in NVU?
[03:35] <Blissex> Eddie: mostly reboot. As said before, make a note of the last half of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes if some adjustament are needed.
[03:35] <deprave_> or image map?
[03:35] <Blissex> Eddie: but you might want to run now
[03:35] <[CJ] fLaRg3> does anyone know why the repos in the ubuntu guide don't work sometime
[03:36] <claude> Blissex: Any idea if I should compila ALSA drivers with ISA PnP ?
[03:36] <Blissex> Eddie: but you might want to run now just 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[03:36] <Blissex> claude: almost surely not.
[03:36] <claude> Blissex: Ok ty
[03:36] <_andy> does anybody know how to increase the dpi in ubuntu?
[03:36] <benplaut> _andy: on a printer?
[03:37] <Blissex> _andy: what do you mean? There are several DPIs in the system. Also, such things are not Ubuntu specific.
[03:37] <_andy> on the screen...
[03:37] <_andy> lcd screen
[03:37] <_andy> so i don
[03:37] <benplaut> _andy: resolution, then
[03:37] <_andy> yea
[03:37] <_andy> i don't want to go blind
[03:37] <Blissex> _andy: LCDs have fixed DPI.
[03:37] <benplaut> ubotu tell _andy about xserver
[03:37] <_andy> wait, but i can change t hem in windows
[03:37] <benplaut> with (right clikc on desktop)>Properties>advanced?
[03:38] <Blissex> _andy: and changing that in MS Windows is changing the DPI of the fonts, not that of the screen.
[03:38] <Blissex> _andy: and even that is wrong, because the DPI should be set exactly to that of the screen and then the font size should be changed.
[03:38] <Eddie> umm, Blissex, which parts of "upgradeNotes" should I do?
[03:38] <_andy> so i should go blind!
[03:39] <Blissex> Eddie: the "post-upgrade" bit.
[03:39] <benplaut> _andy: we all have :P
[03:39] <redtech> what are the proper parallel settings?
[03:39] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about e16 on gnome?
[03:39] <[CJ] fLaRg3> _andy: change the font sizes
[03:39] <Blissex> _andy: too much masturbation is common :-)
[03:39] <DonL> haha
[03:39] <Blissex> _andy: open the control panel and change the default font sizes, to something like 12 points.
[03:40] <Blissex> _andy: similarly for Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird, which set their own font sizes.
[03:40] <Eddie> um, it returned:
[03:40] <Eddie> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:40] <Eddie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:40] <Blissex> Eddie: you have to exit from 'synaptic'
[03:40] <Zaren> does any one know how to get an ibook g3 (currently equipped with Mac OS 9) to boot from the ubuntu cd?
[03:40] <Eddie> oh ok
[03:41] <Eddie> E: Broken packages
[03:41] <Eddie> :/
[03:41] <Blissex> Eddie: then do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop'
[03:41] <benplaut> Zaren: try holding down C while booting
[03:41] <benplaut> i read that somewhere...
[03:41] <claude> Blissex: I have loaded the new module emu10k1 but I still have no sound card in /proc/asound/cards :S
[03:41] <Blissex> claude: then it is not supported yet...
[03:41] <crimsun> claude: does cat /proc/asound/version show 1.0.8?
[03:41] <Eddie> E: Broken packages
[03:41] <Eddie> :/
[03:42] <Blissex> Eddie: which ones?
[03:42] <claude> crimsun: 1.06
[03:42] <Zaren> benplaut: AWESOM! it worked, thanks!
[03:42] <Blissex> claude: that means you have a very very old kernel.
[03:42] <Eddie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:42] <Eddie>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed
[03:42] <Eddie> E: Broken packages
[03:42] <claude> Blissex: Just did a fresh new install of 5.04 Oo
[03:42] <Blissex> claude: whats the kernel version?
[03:42] <cefx> Anyone know what the command is to get WineCVS.sh ?
[03:43] <Blissex> claude: 'uname -r'
[03:43] <benplaut> Zaren: thanks for the info... i need to install on a few imacs tomorrow and i was wondering aboiut that :P
[03:43] <benplaut> !imac
[03:43] <ubotu> benplaut: I haven't a clue
[03:43] <claude> Blissex: 2.6.10-5-386
[03:43] <Blissex> Eddie: then just do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop'
[03:43] <_andy> anybody know how to increase the font sizes in Konversation?
[03:43] <jeff303> hey does anyone know how to kill a fullscreen app which has frozen itself, short of restarting gnome?
[03:43] <blakamin> yay
[03:43] <Blissex> _andy: with the KDE configuration panel... Ask in #Konversation too.
[03:44] <scythe> jeff, can you still get to a cmd line?
[03:44] <hondje> jeff303: xkill if you can alt-f2 to get a run dialog, or else ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal, and pkill -9 <app name>
[03:44] <jeff303> well I got to something (not sure what) by doing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:44] <Eddie> thank you very much Blissex
[03:44] <jeff303> yeah ok I did that, killed from that terminal
[03:44] <jeff303> then pressed Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to my desktop
[03:44] <hondje> :)
[03:44] <Blissex> Eddie: the problem with 'mozilla-firefox-gnome-support' is probably due to not entirely correct sources lists...
[03:45] <jeff303> except it was still stuck at the lower resolution and nothing would work
[03:45] <claude> Blissex: Should I try to update my kernel ?
[03:45] <blakamin> blissex: i have missed everything you sent me for hours due to my identity being stolen by ..um..me
[03:45] <Blissex> claude: yes, straightaway
[03:45] <Eddie> Blissex, so would I fix that?
[03:45] <DukGalNamu> how do i get two monitor support for my ati card?
[03:45] <claude> Blissex: Any tips on how to do that ? :)
[03:45] <Blissex> Eddie: for now, just pass over it.
[03:45] <Eddie> ok
[03:45] <Blissex> claude: with 'synaptic' for example.
[03:46] <claude> Blissex: Oh didn't see that kernel is in that too sry
[03:46] <Blissex> claude: and look for the 'kernel-image' package for 2.6.12 etc.
[03:46] <Eddie> Blissex, this isn't related to linux but, when I first partitioned for linux it was more, experimental, how can I add space to the partition without formatting?
[03:46] <Blissex> Eddie: note very advisable unless you have backups...
[03:46] <DukGalNamu> dpkg reconfigure used to allow me to select a second monitor, now it skims over that part..
[03:46] <Eddie> oh
[03:46] <eliUbuntu> can you open a cwk with some program in linux?
[03:46] <Blissex> Eddie: if the partition is 'ext3', you can use a tool called 'ext2resize'
[03:46] <hondje> What's a cwk?
[03:46] <Eddie> so I'll have to stick with the ammount of space I have or format
[03:47] <DonL> Eddie, get rid of whatever else you have and reinstall Ubuntu
[03:47] <DonL> lol
[03:47] <Eddie> ya it's ext3
[03:47] <eliUbuntu> its a appleworks file apparently
[03:47] <Blissex> Eddie: how large is your root partition?
[03:47] <hondje> oh....I can't remember how I did that the one time I did
[03:47] <jeff303> are there any keyboard shortcuts that can work in a fullscreen app, either to kill the window or return to the desktop?  so far I haven't found any that work
[03:47] <Eddie> only 120gb, but I'm ganna install another 80gb soon
[03:47] <DukGalNamu> hello?
[03:47] <hondje> jeff303: depends on the application
[03:48] <Syco54645> for the future if i were going to recompile my kernel, what would i need to enable for it? is there a guide for this because my cdroms and harddisks dma doesnt work (in the live cd) but i am asusming that it wont work with the default kernel because they never did in any other distro... i must have some weird ide chipset
[03:48] <claude> Blissex: In Synaptic when I search for kernel-image i just find kernel-image -netbootable
[03:48] <Blissex> claude: I think I got confused with Debian...
[03:48] <DukGalNamu> someone please respond to me
[03:49] <Eddie> Blissex, do I want kdm or gdm?
[03:49] <Blissex> Eddie: for KDE, KDM.
[03:49] <scythe> syco, edit your /etc/hdparm.config file to get your cdrom dma working
[03:49] <crimsun> claude: did you follow those instructions I gave you for alsa-source?
[03:49] <Eddie> thanks
[03:49] <claude> crimsun: yup
[03:49] <crimsun> claude: alsa-source gives you 1.0.8.
[03:49] <Syco54645> scythe i know that, but i get a invalid command when i do hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom1
[03:50] <Blissex> DukGalNamu: if you repeat your questions, repeat it in its entirely, but not more often than every 5-10 minutes.
[03:50] <crimsun> claude: dpkg -l alsa-modules\*|grep ^ii
[03:50] <claude> crimsun: I tried but i'm still on 1.0.6 :S
[03:50] <Syco54645> same thing i used to get back with gentoo and mandrake
[03:50] <scythe> try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc instead
[03:50] <Blissex> crimsun: 'alsa-modules' usually is for 2.4.x kernels.
[03:50] <_andy> is there a shortcut key to change the view to detail?
[03:50] <Syco54645> scythe ok i will try it
[03:50] <claude> crimsun: done nothing happened
[03:50] <mebaran151> my cdrom wont let me enable dma
[03:50] <mebaran151> pretty sure it can do it
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> Blissex: not sure what you mean by that exactly...
[03:51] <mebaran151> it is a sony dru900a
[03:51] <scythe> is that internal??
[03:51] <claude> crimsun: no output message
[03:51] <Syco54645> scythe i just need to wait for this dvd to finish burning, it is going at .5x so it is taking a bit of time
[03:51] <mebaran151> any ideas
[03:51] <crimsun> claude: then you didn't install the deb you created with those instructions I gave you.
[03:51] <crimsun> claude: ls /usr/src/modules/*.deb
[03:51] <scythe> ahhh, np, its just a suggestion anyways
[03:52] <mebaran151> it tells me the operation is not permitted
[03:52] <scythe> mebaran151, is that an internal drive?
[03:52] <DukGalNamu> i need to enable two monitor support, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't ask for a second monitor setup, i a, wondering what i should do, i am using an ati card
[03:52] <Blissex> claude: the kernel packages are called 'linux-image', the latest for Hoeary is 2.6.11
[03:52] <mebaran151> scythe, yeah
[03:52] <mebaran151> it reads fine
[03:52] <Syco54645> mebaran151, are you trying to get dma enabled?
[03:52] <claude> crimsun: /usr/src/modules/alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-386_1.0.8-4ubuntu4_i386.deb
[03:52] <scythe> what is the command your using?
[03:52] <mebaran151> yeah
[03:52] <claude> Blissex: Ok thanks
[03:52] <mebaran151> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:53] <Syco54645> mebaran151, it is because the
[03:53] <mebaran151> (hda is my cdrom drive)
[03:53] <Eddie> Blissex, should I do ``apt-get install kubuntu-desktop''
[03:53] <scythe> you have your cd rom as primary master?? or aliased that way??
[03:53] <crimsun> claude: sudo dpkg -i /usr/src/modules/alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-386_1.0.8-4ubuntu4_i386.deb
[03:53] <Blissex> Eddie: that was the goal of the whole operation, so do it.
[03:53] <Syco54645> mebaran151 and scythe it is because the kernel isnt set up for it, there is a conflicting kernel module for the chipset that you have... i had the same problem
[03:53] <DukGalNamu> holy crap!!!!
[03:53] <GhostFreeman> you could also do "apt get kubuntu-base" to get it without the krap
[03:53] <mebaran151> Syco54645, ahhhhh
[03:53] <mebaran151> I have an nforce4
[03:54] <DukGalNamu> doal monitor support is already there
[03:54] <claude> crimsun: ok done
[03:54] <mebaran151> could this effect my cdrom seeking as well?
[03:54] <Syco54645> mebaran151, ide chipset that is
[03:54] <Eddie> ok, it says it's already there, now I just restart?
[03:54] <DukGalNamu> ...
[03:54] <DukGalNamu> hmm
[03:54] <mebaran151> it wont seek through audio cd's
[03:54] <Syco54645> mebaran151, sorry if i was vauge
[03:54] <mebaran151> hmmm I might do a fresh compile
[03:54] <crimsun> claude: now cat /proc/asound/version should show 1.0.8
[03:54] <mebaran151> Syco54645, yeah
[03:54] <Blissex> Eddie: yes, as GhostFreeman says, 'kubuntu-base' may be smaller/faster
[03:54] <mebaran151> nforce4 IDE too
[03:54] <Syco54645> yes dma is a bad thing to have not on
[03:54] <scythe> syco, dont have that problem, my dvd drive just went kaput... no burning for me, just reading now... dangit
[03:54] <mebaran151> Syco54645, ah
[03:54] <Eddie> ok Blissex thanks a bunch
[03:54] <claude> crimsun: yea now it show 1.0.8
[03:54] <mebaran151> do you know where I could find what resources are effected
[03:54] <Blissex> Eddie: jut restart and let us know how it is doing.
[03:54] <Syco54645> it will make dvds to skip, cds to burn bad
[03:54] <Syco54645> etc
[03:55] <Eddie> Ok
[03:55] <scythe> dma is very essential for multimedia stuff, video, music, etc
[03:55] <mebaran151> Syco54645, it seems to work ok
[03:55] <mebaran151> but it wont let me seek through an audio cd
[03:55] <Syco54645> um
[03:55] <mebaran151> I know what dma does
[03:55] <Syco54645> hdparm _drive_
[03:55] <Syco54645> pm me what that says
[03:55] <crimsun> claude: cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:55] <claude> Blissex and crimsun: now I got a feedback from aplay -l !
[03:56] <Syco54645> mebaran151, i wasnt saying that you didnt, just saying that it is bad when it isnt on :P
[03:56] <mebaran151> ah
[03:56] <Syco54645> its a general rule of thumb
[03:56] <mebaran151> cool
[03:56] <claude> crimsun: 0 snd_emu10k1
[03:56] <mebaran151> I understand that
[03:56] <Blissex> claude: thats a lot better.
[03:56] <crimsun> claude: good. Now paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:56] <mebaran151> Syco54645, that's cool
[03:56] <claude> Blissex and crimsun: Guys.... u rules
[03:56] <mebaran151> but I am confused why it wont let me seek thorugh an audio cd
[03:56] <mebaran151> I should think seeking would just not work quite right
[03:56] <Syco54645> what cd player are you using?
[03:56] <Syco54645> HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[03:57] <Syco54645> that is always fun when you get that from hdparm
[03:57] <claude> crimsun: what it do ?
[03:57] <hubsi> how do i get in  what usergroup i am?
[03:57] <crimsun> claude: it shows your volumes. Paste it onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:58] <claude> crimsun: done
[03:58] <squinn> for breezy users, i have a questio
[03:58] <squinn> should x-window-system-core be installed?
[03:59] <crimsun> claude: type this in a terminal: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[04:00] <crimsun> claude: after that, sound should work.
[04:00] <DukGalNamu> my question still stands, how do i get my second monitor to work independantly of my first
[04:00] <DukGalNamu> ie not an exact copy
[04:00] <Eddie> Blissex, thanks a bunch, when I start up it looks different, but my desktop and all is the same.
[04:00] <levander> Does gnomebaker not burn DVD's?
[04:00] <claude> niceee
[04:00] <crimsun> levander: it does.
[04:00] <claude> crimsun: it work !
[04:01] <claude> Blissex and crimsun: Thanks a lot guys great support !
[04:01] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: tell me you know how to set up a different monitor
[04:01] <levander> crimsun: I see a "Burn CD Image" button, no "Burn DVD Image" button.
[04:01] <claude> crimsun: Now what if I reboot ?
[04:01] <scythe> has anyone here trying to install xdarwin on a mac?
[04:01] <crimsun> claude: things will still work.
[04:01] <Blissex> claude: add the module name to '/etc/modules'
[04:02] <crimsun> Blissex: (actually that's not necessary since hotplug+udev take care of it)
[04:02] <levander> crimsun: you know what button to press to burn a dvd image?
[04:02] <digao> hey! please, i would like to know if there is a way to disable password request in the gdm login only for some users?
[04:02] <Eddie> Blissex, thanks a bunch, when I start up it looks different, but my desktop and all is the same.
[04:02] <claude> crimsun: I wonder if I can ask you to explain me what we do ? :S
[04:02] <catphive> I just installed hoary and I'm trying to get vlc installed. I added multiverse, but I still can't find vlc in the packages.
[04:02] <jeff303> does anyone know if there is some utility to monitor hard drive accesses?  I'm getting regular accesses even when completely idle (no pagefile)
[04:02] <crimsun> levander: do you have dvd+rw-tools installed?
[04:03] <claude> crimsun: I'm actually trying to learn more about sound in Linux
[04:03] <catphive> has anyone gotten vlc to work with hoary?
[04:03] <crimsun> catphive: that's because vlc is in universe, not multiverse.
[04:03] <levander> crimsun: yes
[04:03] <crimsun> levander: you can try waiting for the gnomebaker 0.4 automatically backported to Hoary from Breezy.
[04:04] <crimsun> DukGalNamu: try looking at the example XF86Configs on sh.nu/nvidia
[04:04] <Blissex> Eddie: so it worked basically, and now you got KDE running?
[04:04] <levander> crimsun: would rather not use backports, do you know if gnomebaker 0.3 in hoary burns DVD's?
[04:04] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: i am using an ATI
[04:04] <scythe> what is the difference between multi and universe?
[04:04] <crimsun> levander: afaik it does.
[04:04] <skalpel> MOTHERUFC
[04:04] <Eddie> but once I login it seems I'm still on gnome
[04:04] <crimsun> DukGalNamu: same principle
[04:04] <crimsun> !tell scythe about components
[04:05] <DonL> Eddie, you have to change your session
[04:05] <eliUbuntu> iwonfig
[04:05] <eliUbuntu> !iwconfig
[04:05] <ubotu> eliUbuntu: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:05] <eliUbuntu> :(
[04:05] <eliUbuntu> anyone know how to make iwconfig shut down the internet connection?
[04:05] <Blissex> Eddie: you need to select KDE at the graphical login panel. It is one of the menus.
[04:06] <Eddie> oh
[04:06] <Blissex> eliUbuntu: 'ifconfig wlan0 down'
[04:06] <Eddie> DonL, where is that?
[04:06] <windex> eliUbuntu, iwconfig eth0 power off (if eth0 is not your interface, use the one that is)
[04:06] <windex> eliUbuntu, use power on to re-enable the card.
[04:06] <eliUbuntu> thanks Blissex and windex
[04:07] <DonL> Like Blissex says, do control, alt, backspace to get back to the login , then select session and change that to KDE before you log in
[04:07] <windex> oh, wait. that only enables or disables power management, eliUbuntu.
[04:07] <Eddie> thanks, one minute
[04:07] <windex> which is funny because i could swear i've used that before.
[04:08] <claude> crimsun: Just wondering why did we do amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[04:08] <DukGalNamu> holy crap thats a long file
[04:08] <DukGalNamu> !kick
[04:08] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, DukGalNamu
[04:08] <crimsun> claude: that unmutes the mixer element for analog output
[04:08] <windex> ah ha!
[04:08] <windex> eliUbuntu, iwconfig eth0 txpower off <-- shuts off the radio entirely.
[04:08] <DukGalNamu> !hello
[04:08] <dickhead> DukGalNamu: Howdy
[04:08] <ubotu> DukGalNamu: I give up, what is it?
[04:08] <claude> crimsun: oh i see
[04:08] <DukGalNamu> ...
[04:08] <DukGalNamu> ubotu can't even respond to hello?
[04:08] <ubotu> DukGalNamu: I don't know
[04:09] <jeff303> does anyone know if there is some utility to monitor hard drive accesses?  I'm getting regular accesses even when completely idle
[04:09] <windex> eliUbuntu, sorry for the misinformation. :)
[04:09] <DukGalNamu> ....
[04:09] <Eddie> thank you very much Blissex and DonL!
[04:09] <DonL> Are you in, Eddie?
[04:09] <Eddie> ya
[04:09] <_andy> anybody know how to make desktop icons larger?
[04:09] <Blissex> jeff303: look for the ''laptop-mode'' documentation...
[04:09] <DukGalNamu> decrease your res
[04:10] <Blissex> jeff303: it discusses such issues very extensively.
[04:10] <phillip> how do i do fullscreen VNC?
[04:10] <ccc> _andy: system > preferences > file management
[04:10] <_andy> i like to keep my lcd at native resolution, is there any other way to make icons larger?
[04:10] <Blissex> jeff303: and also the use of /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
[04:10] <scythe> phillip, with a very good connection :)
[04:10] <DukGalNamu> phillip: have you tried typing f?
[04:10] <phillip> scythe: got that
[04:10] <Blissex> _andy: change the icon theme to one with bigger icons.
[04:10] <windex> phillip, i have not found a way to do it yet. i am not sure if it's possible with the 'terminal server client' application.
[04:11] <Blissex> _andy: many come in three sizes, 32x32, 48x48 and 63x64.
[04:11] <phillip> DukGalNamu: yes, i tried that
[04:11] <DukGalNamu> no clue then
[04:11] <phillip> windex: im using vncviewer from the console
[04:11] <scythe> i dont know if openvnc will do that philip
[04:11] <DukGalNamu> phillip: type !help
[04:11] <windex> philips, ah ha. it's on the 'Display' tab when you open the app i just said.
[04:11] <phillip> terminal server client?
[04:11] <windex> philips, yes.
[04:12] <windex> philips, terminal server client supports VNC.
[04:12] <Blissex> jeff303: http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/laptop_mode/
[04:12] <phillip> see, i use xfce4 and terminal server client has seemed to disappear from my menu
[04:12] <Blissex> jeff303: http://kerneltrap.org/node/653
[04:13] <DonL> off to play. Thanks for the chat.
[04:13] <phillip> windex: whats the command to launch terminal server client?
[04:13] <DukGalNamu> !kirk
[04:13] <dickhead> KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!
[04:13] <ubotu> DukGalNamu: I don't know
[04:14] <windex> philips, i actually have no idea. it's in my applications->internet menu in gnome. let me try to figure it out
[04:14] <windex> philips, tsclient
[04:14] <DukGalNamu> !dickhead
[04:14] <dickhead> DukGalNamu: ohh, thats VERY mature...
[04:14] <ubotu> DukGalNamu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:14] <phillip> windex: ahh. thanks a lot
[04:15] <cafuego> DukGalNamu: Do I need to switch the bot off until you leave?
[04:15] <DukGalNamu> no no
[04:16] <DukGalNamu> i will be fine
[04:16] <DukGalNamu> i am leaving right now anyways...
[04:16] <DukGalNamu> gbye
[04:16] <FabParma> how to create encrypted partitions?
[04:17] <cafuego> FabParma: with pain.
[04:17] <Blissex> FabParma: http://loop-AES.SourceForge.net/
[04:17] <b33bl3br0x> has anyone tried to compile 2.6.12.4 yet? I have to disclose, I am running Debian Stable, but this group has been helpful before! I compiled the kernel okay, but when I tried to mkinitrd, it just failed silently after a few seconds. It looked like it worked but didn't produce an initrd file.
[04:17] <cafuego> FabParma: Note that encryption slows down I/O a _LOT_, so make a smallish one for data that needs to be secure and leave the rest as is.
[04:18] <windex> philips, although it does appear you can just run vncviewer -fullscreen ...
[04:18] <Blissex> FabParma: loop-AES is by far the best, but the issues are not trivial, as <cafuego> suggests.
[04:18] <calamari> hi
[04:19] <_andy> does anybody know where installed programs end up?
[04:19] <benplaut> _andy: there is no one answer B:P
[04:20] <benplaut> :P
[04:20] <cafuego> _andy: All over the place. Find out with 'dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin'  (normally /usr/bin, /bin etc)
[04:20] <benplaut> i got stuck on that, too, when i switched
[04:21] <Eddie> wow, kde is great
[04:21] <cafuego> Poppycock!
[04:22] <calamari> an idea how wine is able to play sound and xmms/ beep-media-player have stopped working?  this seems to have happened after upgrading to Hoary, although it seems like it did work at least once after the upgrade
[04:22] <sun> has anyone tried UIM or SCIM? are they better than IIIMF?
[04:22] <cafuego> calamari: Wine stole the sound device and isn't sharing it.
[04:23] <calamari> cafuego: interesting.. wonder why this didn't happen under Warty
[04:23] <_andy> okay, here's the deal, i just installed vnc viewer, (or at least i think i installed it...)  and i am trying to execute the program
[04:23] <_andy> but i have no clue where to go to find it
[04:23] <cafuego> _andy: Network -> Remote Desktop (or soemsuch)
[04:23] <rafael> :)
[04:23] <calamari> cafuego: that makes a lot of sense since I did play a CD using microsoft cd player
[04:23] <cafuego> calamari: Is there a way Wine can be made to use esound?
[04:24] <calamari> cafuego: I'll check.. even if it doesn't work, I think you've identified the culprit.. thanks :)
[04:24] <Absinthe_> Why when I install Vectorlinux I have complete multiplex sound, but with Ubuntu I have to use the how-to? I have Nforce onboard sound
[04:25] <_andy> is there a linux equivalent to the windows task manager?
[04:26] <cafuego> _andy: ps, top, system monitor
[04:26] <_andy> thanks
[04:27] <MagiPink> Is there anything easier to use for an IRC fserve than the obsidian script? :3
[04:27] <arathald> im trying to install OGRE- im getting an error that it cant find X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h and when i looked on the forums it said i needed to install the X Development headers.... could someone please explain how (if thats a package through apt-get or synaptic, what the name?)
[04:27] <cafuego> arathald: xlibs-dev
[04:28] <arathald> cafuego: ty
[04:28] <sun> anyone here use Input Methods?
[04:28] <sun> like UIM or SCIM
[04:29] <MagiPink> Eh? Teh Web? :P
[04:30] <sun> bump
[04:30] <MagiPink> That's really helpful. xD
[04:31] <cafuego> MagiPink: I'll translate: the easiest way to share files is by putting 'em on a web/ftp site, not a dcc bot.
[04:31] <arathald> I installed xlibs-dev but I'm still geting the error when I type make (OgreGLXConfig.cpp:39:38: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or directory)
[04:31] <crispynix-v6> was libglu1-xorg removed from breezy? It's missing for some reason :-/
[04:31] <MagiPink> That may be... Some people come looking for fservese in channels for fansub groups and stuff.
[04:31] <cafuego> !find libglu1-xorg breezy
[04:32] <dianE^^> hmm
[04:32] <cafuego> MagiPink: Oh, for trading copyrighted material?
[04:32] <cafuego> !find xf86vmode.h
[04:32] <calamari> does Hoary use esd by default ?
[04:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'xf86vmode.h' (1 shown): (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h) in libdevel/libxxf86vm-dev.
[04:33] <MagiPink> I'd say fansubs are a grey area. :P
[04:33] <cafuego> calamari: Yep
[04:33] <calamari> cafuego: can I disable it ?
[04:33] <arathald> cafuego: oh, here it is- i found it -- its in libxxf86vm-dev
[04:33] <cafuego> calamari: yep (but then, again, apps won't be able to share access to the sound device
[04:33] <arathald> cafuego: thx for the help
[04:33] <calamari> I think Warty used alsa and things shared fine
[04:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libglu1-xorg' returned no results.
[04:33] <cafuego> crispynix-v6: indeed
[04:33] <calamari> but I could be way off :)
[04:34] <crispynix-v6> cafuego: on purpose?
[04:34] <crispynix-v6> cafuego: quite a few packages still depend on it
[04:34] <cafuego> crispynix-v6: Yes; X is being repackaged (hence the topic saying breezy is broken, don't use it)
[04:34] <calamari> in any case, I didn't have sound problems under Warty.. and if I can revert to doing things that way, it'll be great
[04:34] <crispynix-v6> cafuego: heh
[04:34] <cafuego> crispynix-v6: *hint* *hint* ;-)
[04:36] <ilba7r> when is breezy officialy scheduled to be releases
[04:37] <cafuego> ilba7r: october '05
[04:37] <ilba7r> thanx cafuego
[04:41] <Madpilot> blast - someone remind me how I get PIDs of running processes?
[04:41] <Madpilot> Muine just hung again...
[04:41] <jeff303> pgrep
[04:41] <jeff303> maybe?
[04:42] <Madpilot> pgrep might work - if I can figure out the right arguement to use with it...
[04:43] <calamari> cafuego: esd wasn't running.. had to start it manually
[04:43] <Zaren> how much space does a typical installation of ubuntu take?
[04:43] <Madpilot> Zaren: about 1.7Gb
[04:43] <Zaren> madpilot: thanks
[04:44] <Madpilot> "top" only displays a few processes - what's the CLI to display all processes?
[04:44] <Madpilot> Muine running in the background is damned hard to kill
[04:46] <jonathan_> hello, i<m a newbie to ubuntu... pppoe connection is slow... any help?
[04:46] <nekohayo> only slow in ubuntu?
[04:47] <nekohayo> is it modem/router based or it's a pci card modem?
[04:47] <jonathan_> only in ubuntu, modem based...
[04:48] <jonathan_> booting on windows gives much faster surfing!
[04:48] <cefx> What's wrong with gmplayer?  It said something about error selecting video_out device?
[04:48] <jonathan_> i tried pppoeconf to configure
[04:48] <cefx> Is there a way to configure mplayer?
[04:50] <cefx> Error opening/initializing the -vo device
[04:50] <FabParma> does exist a GUI tool to encrypt whole partitions?
[04:51] <cafuego> cefx: '-vo xv'
[04:51] <cefx> I'm using xv tho.
[04:51] <cafuego> FabParma: Why do you think you need to encrypt a whole partition, and how LONG do you think that's going to take?
[04:53] <cpdiety> there are many valid reasons for enrypting an entire partition
[04:53] <FabParma> cafuego:  ill take it always
[04:53] <hondje> good ones, too :)
[04:54] <cefx> cafuego, xv doesn't work.
[04:55] <cafuego> cefx: try 'x11'
[04:55] <hondje> cafuego: archived records comes immediately to mind
[04:56] <hondje> or even non-archived...financial, medical, personel information
[04:56] <Hoxzer> Why samba keeps asking password from windows machine?
[04:56] <Madpilot> isn't archiving files and/or directories faster & easier than a whole partition, in that case?
[04:56] <jesusfish> is it me, or are the Ubuntu repositories messed right now?
[04:56] <hondje> probably is, now that you mention it
[04:57] <jesusfish> I can't install anything
[04:57] <cefx> newp, is there any way I can increase FPS in Xine?
[04:57] <jesusfish> many dependency issues
[04:57] <cafuego> Well, you could use a cryptoloop archive aprtition; i was _assuming_ FabParma meant / (including all data)
[04:57] <Madpilot> can you password lock the various linux archive formats? tar.gz & those?
[04:57] <ben-killer> !lart benplaut
[04:57] <cafuego> Madpilot: gpg
[04:57] <benplaut> darn IP :P\
[04:58] <FabParma> cafuego:  yes, all data. thank you
[04:58] <hondje> gparted doesn't do it, I just installed it to check :)
[04:58] <Madpilot> cafuego: right, forgot about that. I still need to figure out how that blasted app works, I knew my way around PGP in Windows...
[04:58] <cafuego> FabParma: You want to enctypt / ? *everything* Including all applications, which will then start VERY slow?
[04:58] <redtech> "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds"  I dont understand this hp officejet t45printer works fine plugged into my ubuntu lapper...  anyone experience this?
[04:59] <redtech> and its deteced by this box
[04:59] <cafuego> FabParma: That's such a bad idea, I can't even begin...
[04:59] <FabParma> i do this just in one partition
[04:59] <FabParma> non the /
[04:59] <cafuego> FabParma: Well, there'as  that AES-loop url that was pasted a while back.
[04:59] <Madpilot> I'll bbl everyone. have fun.
[05:00] <cafuego> FabParma: I don't imageing that has GUIi tools, but then again, I don't expect there to BE any gui tools for this.
[05:00] <coolblue> i landed in grub shell....help!
[05:02] <FabParma> ill encript a partition into a wole hdd and separate than the master one. ill mount that partition in /root/my-encrypted-disk  --> /dev/hdb1   something like that
[05:03] <FabParma> cafuego: ill encript a partition into a wole hdd and separate than the master one. ill mount that partition in /root/my-encrypted-disk  --> /dev/hdb1   something like that
[05:04] <cefx> How do I enable UDMA2?
[05:04] <cefx> I'm getting really slow FPS in Xine.
[05:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there an ebay toolbar for firefox?
[05:04] <FabParma> cafuego: probally im not explained correctly
[05:05] <jesusfish> anyone having dependency issues installing packages?
[05:05] <hondje> cefx: try 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever'
[05:05] <hondje> jesusfish: I just installed something without a problem
[05:05] <jesusfish> hmm
[05:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know an answer to my question?
[05:07] <FabParma> i mount a new hdd in /root/myDisk after i encrypt all the new hdd. when i need of it i decrypt the  /root/myDisk (probabilly sould be a bit long)
[05:08] <misfit_toy> I'm trying to figure out if you can 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/scd0' for an external USB DVD burner...will that work? it seems to accept it...
[05:08] <JoRock> how do I add a cd to the source.list file?
[05:08] <cafuego> JoRock: apt-cdrom (I think)
[05:10] <Hikaru79|Laptop> Hehe. I'm writing this from the oldest laptop in the history of mankind =P
[05:10] <Hikaru79|Laptop> It can't even handle X. I'm writing this from irssi
[05:10] <Hikaru79|Laptop> and programming in vim ^_^;
[05:10] <Hikaru79|Laptop> I <3 old hardware!
[05:10] <nekohayo> what laptop? bet I can beat you :3
[05:11] <Hikaru79|Laptop> I have 98 RAM as well
[05:12] <nekohayo> do you guys use lighter wmers?
[05:12] <Hikaru79|Laptop> And cat /proc/cpuinfo says its got 242 mhz
[05:12] <DekaPink> Erm... How do I remove the reference to an uninstalled program, so that it doesn't look for a file to run if I put in the command? Just something that bugs me a little.
[05:12] <jeff303> "640K should be enough for anybody"
[05:12] <misfit_toy> jeff303, heh
[05:12] <misfit_toy> I remember that quote when it came
[05:12] <Hikaru79|Laptop> DekaPink: have you removed the entry from the path? (Usually /usr/bin)
[05:12] <misfit_toy> out
[05:12] <Hikaru79|Laptop> There might be a symlink that was left over
[05:12] <Hikaru79|Laptop> ANd not properly deleted.
[05:13] <misfit_toy> I'm trying to figure out if you can 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/scd0' for an external USB DVD burner...will that work? it seems to accept it...
[05:13] <DekaPink> I just did dpkg -r
[05:13] <Hikaru79|Laptop> DekaPink: what program specificaly?
[05:13] <DekaPink> Hikaru79|Laptop: Cedega
[05:13] <Hikaru79|Laptop> misfit_toy: isn't the flag "-d1"?
[05:13] <Hikaru79|Laptop> DekaPink: Oi. Packages like Cedega and Wine and CrossoverOffice leave behind a TON of crap :(
[05:14] <coolblue> can i log in as root in kubuntu?
[05:14] <Hikaru79|Laptop> I would do a 'sudo updatedb && locate cedega' and then kill whatever you don't like manually.
[05:14] <misfit_toy> Hikaru79, maybe it is, I'll check again, thanks...its funky treating a USB device as a SCSI device to begin with!
[05:14] <DekaPink> Hikaru79|Laptop: Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. ^^
[05:14] <Hikaru79|Laptop> coolblue: not by default. Just use sudo.
[05:14] <Hikaru79|Laptop> DekaPink: =/ Yeah.
[05:14] <coolblue> can i fix it?????????
[05:14] <jeff303> you could set the root password
[05:14] <jeff303> that would enable the account I think
[05:14] <Hikaru79|Laptop> coolblue: yes, there is a way to enable root. I don't have the link on me because i'm on a laptop that would explode if I tried to install a browser on it.
[05:14] <nekohayo> ..... man I just realized the "window selector" applet behaves pretty much like the top right corner of a macintosh... hey anybody know a way to user the application menubars in the taskbark? maybe I'll make a user account just to mimic a mac for fun
[05:15] <nekohayo> taskbark.. hmm lol taskbar*
[05:15] <Hikaru79|Laptop> "a way to user the application menubars"?
[05:15] <jeff303> sudo /usr/bin/passwd root
[05:15] <nekohayo> hmm
[05:15] <signbarn> i want to rid myself of windows xp, so i'd like to know how i go about formatting the ntfs drive i have as ext3
[05:15] <Hikaru79|Laptop> You mean, make them user-specific?
[05:15] <nekohayo> I mean...
[05:15] <Hikaru79|Laptop> signbarn: the Ubuntu installer does that for you.
[05:15] <signbarn> wonderful :-)
[05:15] <nekohayo> for example, strip the top menu bar of an application (Text only) and put it in the tray
[05:16] <signbarn> so i can just use it to format a drive and be done?
[05:16] <nekohayo> mac OS is the only example I have :P
[05:16] <Hikaru79|Laptop> Just tell it to have its way with your hardrive when it asks you how to partition =) It'll set up a partitoin structure that it likes.
[05:16] <cafuego> signbarn: Just tell the installer to use the entire disk.
[05:16] <jeff303> you can either delete the partition, repartition as ext3
[05:16] <Hikaru79|Laptop> Yes, signbarn , it has the option to use the entire disk and do its partitioningall by itself.
[05:16] <jeff303> or use a partition tool like gparted to convert to ext3
[05:16] <cafuego> nekohayo: KDE has a bar that does this.
[05:16] <signbarn> i don't need it to install anything on it, though it is the master hard drive.
[05:16] <nekohayo> yeah I know that
[05:16] <Hikaru79|Laptop> Ubuntu installer is very easy to use, especially if you're dedicating an entire HDD to it =)
[05:16] <nekohayo> but I want it on gnome! :3
[05:17] <signbarn> i just want a blank ext3 drive
[05:17] <cafuego> signbarn: Then 'fdisk' and 'mkfs.ext3' are your friends.
[05:17] <Hikaru79|Laptop> signbarn, oh a blank one?
[05:17] <nekohayo> I've seen a theme maker using this, but it has not been released
[05:17] <signbarn> yesh
[05:17] <Hikaru79|Laptop> signbarn: run a livecd and then use fdisk.
[05:17] <hubsi> what's the name of alsa headers 0.4 in apt ?
[05:17] <jeff303> then just delete the windows partition with qtparted, then create a new partition using all that space as ext3
[05:17] <jeff303> that should do it
[05:17] <nekohayo> so I know it's ... possible
[05:17] <cafuego> signbarn: Note that until you write the entire disk full of random data about 5 times, the data can still be (partially) recovered ;-)
[05:18] <Hoxzer> how I can see how full is my HDD?
[05:18] <cafuego> Hoxzer: 'df -h'
[05:18] <signbarn> lol
[05:18] <signbarn> i backed up to a 200 gig hard drive that i got at CompUSA for 80 bucks
[05:18] <signbarn> backed up media, etc.
[05:19] <hubsi>  what's the name of alsa headers 0.4 in apt ?
[05:19] <Eddie> I currently use KDE but was just using gnome, so I made a shortcut to `/' but now I need it to open with the kde file manager, how can I do this?
[05:20] <signbarn> thanks, y'all :-)
[05:20] <Hoxzer> ;/ I need to get that samba working
[05:21] <DekaPink> So there's no easy for me to just get it to not say bash: /usr/bin/whatever: No such file or directory? :3
[05:22] <cafuego> DekaPink: installing 'whatever' will probably help.
[05:23] <signbarn> Hoxzer: what's your samba trouble?
[05:24] <DekaPink> cafuego: No, I uninstalled it, and I want to make the message go away. :P So it'll just say command not found or some such again.
[05:24] <elfguy> anyone ever used Everquest with point2play by any chance?
[05:26] <cafuego> DekaPink: Logout, login.
[05:26] <cafuego> DekaPink: or try 'hash'
[05:28] <DekaPink> Oh, there we go... I went into Synaptic and marked it for complete removal.
[05:30] <elfguy> whats the prompt command to make all files in current directory and sub directories +write for user?
[05:30] <kevin06> Don't mind me, just showing my wife the wonders of IRC
[05:31] <cafuego> elfguy: chmod u+w . -R
[05:31] <elfguy> ah yes, thx.. been too long :P
[05:31] <cafuego> kevin06: Don't fortget the flames and sarcasm.
[05:33] <arbir> hello all
[05:33] <arbir> test
[05:33] <hornbeck> hello
[05:33] <arbir> test
[05:33] <arbir> hi hornbeck
[05:33] <brokenbox> so ive got a problem, ubuntu wont see the onboard nic, rtl8139 in my shuttle
[05:33] <brokenbox> ive tried just about everything
[05:33] <calamari> here is what's wrong with my sound I think.. error: /dev/dsp: No such device
[05:33] <arbir> anybody uses PostGre Sql ?
[05:33] <arbir> hmmmm
[05:33] <calamari> /dev/dsp1 works
[05:34] <brokenbox> anyone else have one of these boxes runnin ubuntu
[05:34] <hornbeck> brokenbox: no
[05:34] <brokenbox> well it just doesnt see eth0, ive manually loaded and unloaded the correct modules
[05:34] <brokenbox> to no avail
[05:34] <brokenbox> just lookin for anything else i can try
[05:34] <brokenbox> it works with other distros
[05:34] <brokenbox> and livecds
[05:35] <brokenbox> 8139too and mii are the modules other distros use to run it
[05:35] <arbir> borken did you google for it ?
[05:35] <brokenbox> yeah i did
[05:35] <brokenbox> and ubuntu forums
[05:35] <brokenbox> been lookin for a while
[05:35] <arbir> hmm... man i was always scared of loading these device drivers
[05:36] <arbir> i once did manage to do it with gentoo
[05:36] <arbir> and then i sweared i wont
[05:36] <arbir> brokenbox: you are in a difficult situation
[05:36] <arbir> i am looking for the latest package for postgresql
[05:36] <brokenbox> yeah, the drivers that should work arent :(
[05:36] <brokenbox> doesnt make much sense
[05:36] <brokenbox> just tryin to see if i could be missing something...
[05:36] <arbir> sometimes. i feel i should go back to Redhat
[05:36] <arbir> i mean fedora
[05:36] <hornbeck> brokenbox: does ifconfig -a show the eth0?
[05:37] <brokenbox> hornbeck, nope
[05:37] <brokenbox> just loopback
[05:37] <hornbeck> hmm
[05:37] <arbir> well brokenbox i guess.. then your module is not loaded
[05:37] <hornbeck> even after a manual load of the driver
[05:37] <arbir> or the networking service is not yet started
[05:37] <brokenbox> yeah i manually load it and still wont see eth0
[05:37] <rob_p> brokenbox:  I've got 2 Realtek 8139s in my Ubuntu box.  They seem to work just fine.  I didn't have to do anything special to get them to come up...
[05:37] <arbir> i also have a problem with Ubuntu here with my network card.. each time i boot my machine.. i have to do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:38] <arbir> and only then will it work
[05:38] <brokenbox> arbir, hmmmm interesting i actually hadnt tried that yet
[05:38] <brokenbox> rob_p, what kernel modules are your realteks using
[05:38] <brokenbox> 8139too ?
[05:38] <arbir> yeah brokenbox try that
[05:38] <rob_p> brokenbox:  They are listed as: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[05:39] <brokenbox> mines listed as rtl-8100B/8139D
[05:39] <vitriol> anybody know of a good bluetooth mouse for linux?
[05:39] <arbir> meanwhile can anybody tell me......where can i get the latest version of PostgreSQL?
[05:39] <claude> anyone know how can i get sound in firefox ?
[05:39] <hornbeck> vitriol: I have never got one to work right
[05:39] <vitriol> meh :/
[05:39] <claude> actually i have no sound at all in firefox
[05:39] <rob_p> brokenbox:  I believe 8139too, yes.
[05:39] <hornbeck> arbir: you may not be able to get the latest version in Hoary
[05:39] <hornbeck> if that is what you are running
[05:40] <arbir> hornbeck: i have the backports on
[05:40] <brokenbox> rob_p, hmmm yeah thats what it should be... weirdness.  I reckon ill try a network restart and see what goes
[05:40] <arbir> hornbeck: and still i wont get me the latest
[05:40] <brokenbox> thanks for the help, might be back in a sec, hehe
[05:40] <JoRock> can anyone help me set up a netgear wireless pci card?
[05:40] <arbir> how can i tell what is my networking card?
[05:40] <hornbeck> arbir: are you looking for 8.0?
[05:40] <vitriol> hornbeck: i know that bluetooth devices are supported...
[05:40] <arbir> hornbeck: yeah 8.0.x
[05:40] <rob_p> brokenbox:  What version of 8139 are you running?
[05:41] <vitriol> it's just that some - i.e. microsoft - will spew random crap out into dmesg polluting your logs
[05:41] <brokenbox> dmesg |grep eth0 shows RTL-8139B/8139D
[05:41] <hornbeck> vitriol: they are supported but I have never got a BT mouse to work right
[05:41] <vitriol> hornbeck: what was the problem?
[05:42] <hornbeck> arbir: postgresql 8.0 is in breezy
[05:42] <rob_p> brokenbox:  do a, "lspci | grep 8139" for more info...
[05:42] <arbir> hornbeck: how do i get it from breezty?
[05:42] <arbir> breezy i mean
[05:42] <hornbeck> vitriol: they would have random movement and be flakey
[05:42] <vitriol> ooohh
[05:42] <hornbeck> arbir: install breezy :-)
[05:42] <arbir> hornbeck: but its not yet ok.. i heard.. its still broken
[05:43] <vitriol> hornbeck: was that all mice or just a particular one? i read about some BT mice being crappy
[05:43] <arbir> thats what the IRC header says
[05:43] <hornbeck> arbir: yes it is still very broken
[05:43] <arbir> i want just postgresql
[05:43] <hornbeck> vitriol: I tried about three before stopping
[05:43] <arbir> i dont want an unstable distro
[05:43] <hornbeck> you might google it for ones that work
[05:43] <vitriol> yuck
[05:43] <brokenbox> aight ill give this a shot. brb
[05:43] <vitriol> hornbeck: k thanks
[05:43] <rob_p> brokenbox:  Anyway, good luck with it.  I hope you figure it out.
[05:43] <hornbeck> arbir: Than you will have to compile yourself or wait till Breezy is stable
[05:44] <arbir> i guess let me compile
[05:44] <arbir> the only prblem is the startup scripts # hornbeck
[05:44] <hornbeck> configure them yourself
[05:44] <arbir> the one thing which i miss is the status of a daemon
[05:44] <arbir> '/etc/init.d/apache2 status does not work
[05:44] <hornbeck> why do you need 8.0?
[05:45] <arbir> hornbeck: its the stable version of pgsql , i guess
[05:45] <hornbeck> arbir: create a ubuntu package from source and install
[05:45] <arbir> correct me if ia m wrong
[05:45] <hornbeck> all versions leading up to it are stable versions
[05:45] <hornbeck> 7.3
[05:45] <hornbeck> 7.4
[05:45] <hornbeck> all stable
[05:45] <arbir> hornbeck: i dont know how to make a ubuntu package... i have checkinstall installed which can make me .deb packaes
[05:45] <Mr_Smiley> Is there anyway that I can remotely access a winxp box from Ubuntu?
[05:46] <arbir> Mr_Smiley: use Rdesktop
[05:46] <Mr_Smiley> I'll take a look, thanks
[05:46] <LinuxJones> night all
[05:46] <arbir> Mr_Smiley: www.ubuntulinuxguide.org
[05:46] <arbir> sorry ubuntuguide.org
[05:46] <Mr_Smiley> ok
[05:47] <arbir> hornbeck: is there a tutorial which can tlel me how to make Ubuntu packages?
[05:47] <hornbeck> arbir: I am not sure give me a sec
[05:47] <arbir> also with postgresql 8.x a column's datatype can be changed
[05:47] <arbir> you cannot do that with older versions
[05:48] <hornbeck> arbir: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[05:48] <kaffeend> hello...
[05:48] <hornbeck> start there
[05:48] <arbir> let me check that hornbeck
[05:48] <arbir> also i need the latest version of Mono..
[05:48] <arbir> cant get it
[05:48] <hornbeck> arbir: all in breezy
[05:49] <kaffeend> !multimedia
[05:49] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[05:49] <arbir> hornbeck: can i use the breezy sources ?
[05:49] <arbir> hornbeck: for my apt-get ?
[05:49] <hornbeck> arbir: it is not suggested to mix sources
[05:50] <arbir> hornbeck: just for mono and pgsql
[05:50] <hornbeck> it will want to install other items as well
[05:50] <hornbeck> could cause a lot of problems
[05:50] <hornbeck> you can install mono from their site
[05:50] <hornbeck> mono-project.com
[05:51] <arbir> let me check that
[05:51] <arbir> as for making a .deb package. i guess i can do well with checkinstall
[05:51] <arbir> its really good
[05:51] <hornbeck> right
[05:51] <hornbeck> well I am out
[05:51] <hornbeck> night
[05:52] <benplaut> night
[05:52] <benplaut> wish ubotu good night :P
[05:53] <arbir> hornbeck: night
[05:53] <arbir> can anybody tell me how can i make ignore certain upgrades?
[05:54] <hondje> using pinning
[05:54] <arbir> whats that hondje ?
[05:55] <hondje> arbir: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[05:55] <arbir> let me check that
[05:58] <arbir> anybody has used Cygwin with Kde ?
[05:59] <benplaut> try in #cygwin ;)
[06:01] <jazzanova> hi
[06:01] <benplaut> hi
[06:02] <jazzanova> i am trying to compile my program that uses vector (from stl).
[06:02] <benplaut> what program?
[06:02] <jazzanova> its having trouble with it.
[06:02] <jazzanova> m own
[06:02] <jazzanova> my own
[06:02] <jazzanova> i wrote it long time ago.
[06:02] <benplaut> oh
[06:02] <Do1> HI, got a port forwarding question. Every day I do the same port forward and suddenly I'm getting bind: Cannot assign requested address. The command is sudo ssh -c blowfish -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 -l user user.ath.cx -N -f
[06:03] <jazzanova> i  have #include <vector.h> at the top
[06:06] <jazzanova> nevermind
[06:09] <volvoguy> hi all. i was glad to see that the nvidia binary drivers are working now in breezy, but sad to see that they dropped support for my TNT2 card. will i need to manually install an older version from the nvidia website?
[06:11] <hondje> vs something like 'nvidia-glx-older' package? Good question, I was wondering that earlier myself
[06:14] <volvoguy> hondje, i don't see a package like that in main, universe or multiverse. i'll just see if i can get their driver installed.
[06:16] <volvoguy> what's the best way to get to a non-X runlevel? i haven't had the need to do that yet. :)
[06:16] <kaffeend> I've been using Ubuntu for 4 days now - having come from XP and never used Linux before now. I was telling this to a mate of mine who knows about "these things" last night, and he was like, "Cool, what language are you using?", and I didn't bloody know! So, can somebody yell me what language I'm using in Terminal please?
[06:16] <Xenguy> volvoguy: Ctrl-Alt-F2
[06:16] <kaffeend> tell*
[06:17] <volvoguy> Xenguy, thanks.
[06:17] <Xenguy> volvoguy: not sure if I understood your question correctly tho
[06:18] <volvoguy> kaffeend, you're using a "shell" in terminal. the default is "bash". in the terminal you can type "echo $SHELL" to tell you for sure which one you're using.
[06:18] <volvoguy> Xenguy, i just need to leave X completely to install Nvidia's driver.
[06:18] <kaffeend> Thanks, volvoguy
[06:19] <Xenguy> kaffeend: and if you put multiple commands in a script, it would be known as a bash/shell script
[06:19] <kaffeend> Hmmm
[06:19] <root________> in kde in ubuntu, kdesu asks for a user password instead of a root password.  the gnome equivalent is the same way.  How would I recreate this behaviour in any other distro, as my friend really likes that feature, but won't switch distros..
[06:20] <thegreengiant> hey.... what would i have to do to get 32 bit programs to work in 64 bit version
[06:20] <thegreengiant> compile new kernel?
[06:20] <volvoguy> kaffeend, no problem! as far as the language you are using, that doesn't really apply to the end user unless you're programming. i think the programming language of choice in Ubuntu is Python though.
[06:20] <kaffeend> volvoguy I've heard of Perl and Python
[06:21] <Xenguy> kaffeend: scripting languages
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Rexx
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> :P comal!
[06:21] <kaffeend> Xenguy okay
[06:21] <volvoguy> kaffeend, yep. i've heard of them too... but that's about it. :)
[06:22] <volvoguy> so Xenguy, Ctrl Alt F2 will drop me out of X and leave me at a terminal?
[06:23] <JDahl> volvoguy, yes
[06:23] <kaffeend> btw I'm typing   echo $SHELL and I'm getting bin/bash back
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-F2 will jump to the console.. not kill off X.
[06:24] <volvoguy> and i should probably remove "nvidia-glx" as not to confuse X.
[06:24] <kaffeend> Isn't HalfLife 2 python based?
[06:24] <thegreengiant> huh??!
[06:24] <volvoguy> Dr_Willis, oh yeah. duh. :) I need to exit X windows completely.
[06:24] <thegreengiant> you cant compile python... can you?
[06:24] <root________> how does ubuntu make su, kdesu, and the gnome equivalent of kdesu ask for a user password instead of a root password ?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> volvoguy,  kill the gdm service is how i normally doit.
[06:24] <thegreengiant> prolly sets them to the same thin
[06:25] <PurpleMotion> ummm
[06:25] <PurpleMotion> HELP!
[06:25] <root________> kaffeend, if half-life 2 is written entirely in python, I will castrate myself and sing in a eunuch choir.
[06:25] <volvoguy> Dr_Willis, doesn't it automatically restart? I'm used to doing "init 3" or something in slackware.
[06:25] <thegreengiant> i can guarantee you that hl2 is written in C and C++
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> volvoguy,  init  changes the runlevel - which may or may not do what you want.
[06:26] <volvoguy> this is why i'm on the art team and not the dev team. :)
[06:26] <root________> thegreengiant, thank you.  :)
[06:26] <raju> Hey, can anyone help me?  I'm trying to run modprobe lirc_i2c
[06:26] <raju> it says module can't be found
[06:27] <volvoguy> ok. i'm going to go play. thanks for the help everybody. :)
[06:27] <JDahl> I also heard the HL2 is Python based. In fact, they wrote the entire 3D engine using the turtle-graphics module
[06:27] <root________> how does ubuntu make gnome's su frontend, kdesu, and su ask for a user password instead of the root password ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> the user is on the sudoers list I belive and thats normally how su works.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> :) or are we going in circular logic here. Lol
[06:28] <thegreengiant> Jdahl: LOL... laughing my ass off... LOLOL
[06:28] <raju> could anyone help me?
[06:29] <root________> Dr_Willis, lol..  only thing is, sudo makes X apps unusable, and su doesn't.  kdesu doesn't make x apps unusable, so it's su, not sudo..  and I can't make su ask for a user password....
[06:30] <cafuego> root________: They don't; they use gsudo, not gksu.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> root________,  never noticed. :P I tend to use 'sux'   and shells
[06:30] <cafuego> root________: No, you are mistaken./ 'sudo' works fine for X apps.
[06:30] <cafuego> But I wouldn't expect otherwise from someone on irc as root.
[06:31] <jason_> ANyone know how to get a nice pie chart of the harddrive fre space?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> jason_,  i recall kde had some feature like tht in their file manager.. not sure of other similer tools however
[06:32] <kaffeend> root sry didn't see your post til now. I believe HL2 uses Python. Maybe I'm wrong /shrug
[06:32] <thegreengiant> does anyone know how i can get 32 bit apps to run on amd64 .......??? without chroot
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> Okay, I was running the system off of /dev/hda3, but i deleted /dev/hda1, so i made a partition there and moved everything on /dev/hda3 there and deleted /dev/hda3.. i'm on in knoppix right now.. i need to be able to install the bootloader on /dev/hda1 in /etc/lilo.conf, and i can't for the life of me figure out how to remount what systems in knoppix to make it work
[06:32] <jason_> What about just amount of free space?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> thegreengiant,  good luck. :P
[06:32] <cafuego> thegreengiant: install them with force-arch. BAD IDEA. Use the chroot regardless.
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> i run: /sbin/lilo -C /mnt/hda1/etc/lilo.conf
[06:33] <PurpleMotion> and i get
[06:33] <PurpleMotion>     Name change: '/dev/cloop0' -> '/dev/cloop'
[06:33] <PurpleMotion> err
[06:33] <thegreengiant> i wouldnt be able to compile a biarch kernel and install the 32 bit libs??
[06:33] <PurpleMotion> Fatal: creat /boot/map~: Read-only file system
[06:33] <jason_> ahh stupid me its there on the bottom of nautalis
[06:33] <PurpleMotion> but / (which contains /boot) is rw
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> PurpleMotion,  it should be writeing to /mnt/hda1/boot shouldent it?
[06:34] <PurpleMotion> but it's not
[06:34] <cafuego> thegreengiant: Yes, you can, but you'd still need to force-arch i386 and it'd still be a bad idea (and you'd still get crashes)
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> PurpleMotion,  its doing what it thinks is right. :P
[06:34] <PurpleMotion> when i reboot, /mnt/hda1 will be /dev/hda1
[06:34] <thegreengiant> darn
[06:34] <cafuego> thegreengiant: Don't install the 32bit libc6 on amd64. More badness.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> PurpleMotion,  could make a soft link from /boot to /mnt/hda1/boot
[06:34] <kaffeend> !cedega
[06:34] <ubotu> cedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[06:34] <PurpleMotion> ln -s ?
[06:34] <cafuego> thegreengiant: You can always chosoe to just install an ia32 system
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> for the lilo install.. of course I use grub. :P
[06:35] <PurpleMotion> i use lilo
[06:35] <thegreengiant> yea... but the rest of the system wont run at full speed
[06:35] <PurpleMotion> lemme do that
[06:35] <root________> cafuego, mr. 'sudo works for x apps' here, chew on this: sudo /usr/kde/3.4/bin/kate
[06:35] <root________> kate: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.
[06:35] <cafuego> root________: Congratulations, you overwrote $DISPLAY.
[06:35] <root________> cafuego, sudo does it, I just watch :)
[06:36] <cafuego> root________: It works for every other user. You must be special.
[06:36] <PurpleMotion> it appears i need to symlink things in / as well :D
[06:36] <root________> cafuego, actually, I'm not using ubuntu at the moment, I'm setting up another PC to have kdesu work the same as in ubuntu, since I like it.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the DISPLAY veriable needs to be set/exported.
[06:37] <cafuego> Dr_Willis: That is set in an xterm.
[06:37] <PurpleMotion> that worked
[06:37] <cafuego> root________: Are you trying to run if from a console login or something>?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> cafuego,  yea - seems odd...
[06:37] <cafuego> root________: And can you change your nick?
[06:37] <root________> cafuego, from a standard term
[06:38] <root________> cafuego, if it'll help get me help, I'll change it..
[06:38] <PurpleMotion> okay, i'll be right back.. im gonna get my ubuntu system back up :)
[06:38] <sebastian_> hi
[06:38] <seife> yo
[06:38] <seife> i think im ready to install ubuntu
[06:38] <seife> i downloaded all needed
[06:38] <cafuego> Aarcane: Well, i doubt you'll get much help from people here until you're on (k)ubuntu.
[06:38] <seife> should i install it on my second disk?
[06:38] <cafuego> Aarcane: All I can say is the sudo on whatever you're running now is broken.
[06:38] <sebastian_> i have aproblem wint the sound
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> seife,  its proberly easier and safer to put linux on its own hard drive (2nd one would be fine)
[06:39] <seife> Dr_Willis but i have files in there
[06:39] <seife> its not an empty disk
[06:39] <sebastian_> any body can hepl me
[06:39] <seife> the problem is i need some help i dont even know how to install i have never used linux, never touched it
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> seife,  i STRONGLY suggest you back them up. :P just in case
[06:39] <Aarcane> cafuego, alright..  well, that's half the problem..  the other half is how do I make su ask for a user password instead of a root password ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> seife,  and you will then need to resize the existing partions to make some free unallocated space
[06:39] <seife> yeah
[06:40] <seife> i think i need to create a partition
[06:40] <cafuego> Aarcane: You don't.
[06:40] <cafuego> Aarcane: 'su' _ALWAYS_ asks for the root password.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> seife,  actually you need to create a NONparittion :P lol -
[06:40] <Aarcane> cafuego, so does kdesu in (k)ubuntu use sudo instead of su ?
[06:40] <calamari> seife: if you want to get a feel for linux without changing anything, try the live cd.. it'll let you experiment
[06:40] <seife> non partition uh?
[06:41] <seife> i downloaded the live cd, can i try it out into windows?
[06:41] <signbarn> Okay, so right now I dual boot with Windoze XP. If I use the install disk to install Ubuntu over my XP drive, will the grub boot manager update itself?
[06:41] <seife> Dr_Willis: what u mean i need a new HD?
[06:41] <cafuego> Aarcane: I assume it uses a sudo wrapper.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> seife,  a section of hte hd that i NOT used. not in a drive letter.. ect..
[06:41] <calamari> seife: just reboot with the live cd in the drive and it'll load
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> seife,  no.. it can work.. you just need tobe carefull
[06:41] <cafuego> Aarcane: They might be able to tell you more precisely in #kubuntu
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> seife,  i accidently deleted some junk off my 2nd hd with the ubuntu installer once.. so it pays to be very carefull
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> seife,  i used a live cd with parted  (or qt_parted) or the other variants to resize the existing windows partions. making the last part of the hd. to be UNALLOCATED.
 trying to setup postfix w/ virtual domains
 nup[19225] : fatal: open database /etc/postfix/virtual_alias.db: No such file or directory
 what is that error
 i have the /etc/postfix/virtual_alias
 as shown in
 http://www.postfix.org/MAILDROP_README.html
[06:44] <PurpleMotion> obstacle abolished.
[06:44] <black13> where can i find the dsc files for xorg
[06:44] <cafuego> hanasaki: google for 'sarge ispmail', click on I'm feeling lucky.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[06:44] <cafuego> hanasaki: .. that's a HWOTO for popstfix with courier and virtual domains/user in mysql.
[06:44] <hanasaki> thanks
[06:44] <PurpleMotion> that's worth a Wiki entry, you should write one
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> PurpleMotion,  for what? :P
[06:45] <hanasaki> i tried the info on the psotfix site.  and poof.. no luck. maybe i should try exim again lol
[06:46] <hanasaki> cafuego:  wht mta do you use?
[06:46] <bedi> is the xorg from breezy broken
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> bedi,  ive often hear mention that it breaks then gets fixed then breaks again
[06:46] <bedi> this thing will not work gr
[06:46] <PurpleMotion> Dr_Willis:  for someone who wants to move their installation from one partition to another
[06:46] <PurpleMotion> that worked out well
[06:47] <seife> man
[06:47] <seife> if
[06:47] <seife> i delete something on the 2nd disk
[06:47] <seife> my dad will just kill me
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> seife,  yep..
[06:47] <seife> err
[06:47] <seife> so i wont install ubuntu
[06:47] <seife> now im afraid
[06:47] <seife> lol
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> seife,  could just stick with the live cd's
[06:47] <seife> what it do?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> and a usb thumb drive.
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> now, does anyone know why QTParted says I can't grow /dev/hda4 (which is 60gb and needs to be 80gb)??
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> will do anything you really want. :P
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> its a system on a cd.
[06:48] <hanasaki> cafuego:  should it be as easy as changing mysql to postgres to use postgres?  all of my stuff is in that now and i really dont want ot add mysql unless it si Required
[06:48] <PurpleMotion> not every system can boot from a thumb drive
[06:49] <hanasaki> PurpleMotion:  bios rocks.. mine supports usb keyboards.. just not until you boot w/ a ps2 and enable it LOL
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> PurpleMotion,  thats why you use a lIve cd and the thumbdrive. :P
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> gotchya
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> anyways
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki,  lol.. I got one that the usb keyboard works in the bios menus when its in ONE of the usb ports bt not the others. :P
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> why does QTparted say i cant grow /dev/hda4 when it's got 40gb of space directly in front of it??
[06:50] <hanasaki> thats it.. i swear.. ia m gonna go back to windows LOL
[06:50] <hanasaki> Dr_Willis: :)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> heh
[06:50] <hanasaki> it was a joke
[06:50] <hanasaki> hoary work ok w/ uml?
[06:51] <traveller> there's a beeping sound from my speakers everytime i press a key or when the key repeats itself, does anyone know why is this?
[06:51] <black13> i want to build xorg from the unbuntu dsc files
[06:51] <black13> how do i go about that?
[06:52] <PurpleMotion> i think i found a wiki for it :D
[06:54] <cafuego> black13: Any reason?
[06:56] <misfit_toy> zzzzzzzzz
[06:56] <hanasaki> http://www.edoceo.com/liber/nuntius-setup.php  <= llooks good for postfix and psotgress
[06:57] <thenostradamus> i was wondering if someone can help me with an ssh authentication problem
[06:58] <Syco54645> thenostradamus, what is the problem?
[06:58] <thenostradamus> well...........
[06:59] <thenostradamus> i'm able to connect to it with ssh but it won't authenticate my password
[06:59] <sol> connect to what?
[06:59] <thenostradamus> it gives me the error:Permission denied, please try again.
[06:59] <thenostradamus> my computer
[07:00] <cow_cakep> dfsgt
[07:00] <ReleaseX> is there a kernel that supports orinoco scanning?
[07:00] <JDahl> thenostradamus, are you using a terminal or a gui tool?
[07:00] <thenostradamus> terminal
[07:01] <AdmiralCrunch> Is there any way I can change the apt-get repository to the Debian one?
[07:02] <JDahl> AdmiralCrunch, you can just change /etc/apt/sources.list, but why would you change that? sounds like trouble...
[07:02] <cato_> im having bit of a problem with my terminals.. they wont let me use the norwegian keys.. :\
[07:02] <AdmiralCrunch> Because the Debian repository has more packages
[07:03] <adrian__> Hey, guys. Does anyone know of a text-mode e-mail client that will let me read/write email through a remote SMTP server?
[07:03] <adrian__> Like thunderbird, but for CLI?
[07:03] <JDahl> AdmiralCrunch, If that's an issue, then you're probably better off using Debian - I dont think mixing Debian and Ubuntu like that is a good idea
[07:04] <Burgundavia> AdmiralCrunch, what packages are missing from Ubuntu?
[07:04] <sol> AdmiralCrunch, did u read this http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories ?
[07:04] <Burgundavia> sol, please don't recommend ubuntuguide
[07:04] <sol> why not
[07:05] <Burgundavia> !ubuntuguide
[07:05] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> heh this has GOT to be a faq :P
[07:05] <Syco54645> Burgundavia, valknut is missing... and all of the dvdauthor front ends that i have tried to get are missing too
[07:05] <professor_chaos> i like ubuntuguide
[07:05] <Burgundavia> professor_chaos, regardless, plese don't recommend it
[07:05] <sol> the section on repositories was helpful for me
[07:05] <Syco54645> Burgundavia, those are just a few that i have just tried to get
[07:06] <Burgundavia> Syco54645, likely they entered debian after hoary was released
[07:06] <professor_chaos> can i cay i like it without recommending it!
[07:06] <Syco54645> Burgundavia, um i would hope they have been in debian for some time... especially valknut which is old (2002?)
[07:06] <Burgundavia> Syco54645, odd, raise the issue with the MOTUs
[07:07] <Burgundavia> professor_chaos, best not to mention it
[07:07] <sol> AdmiralCrunch, which packages are u wanting?
[07:07] <ReleaseX> is there a kernel that supports orinoco scanning?
[07:07] <AdmiralCrunch> I am actually with Syco here, we were trying to figure his problem out
[07:08] <professor_chaos> free speech.... I don't want to get into it, but it has it's use. I will leave it at that!
[07:08] <sol> aha
[07:08] <sol> word
[07:09] <benplaut> !lart ubotu
[07:14] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> how do i compile and install a program from source code on my desktop?
[07:14] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> does anyone know?
[07:14] <navyn> i get a message from a program saying Package enlightenment has no available version, but exists in the database
[07:15] <Syco54645> the lack of packages in ubuntu is sad
[07:15] <Syco54645> even when i used the alt repositories
[07:15] <Syco54645> i still see nothing that i used to use
[07:15] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> does anyone know how  i compile and install a program from source code on my desktop?
[07:16] <TheDemon> heh, ubuntu has nearly everything in its pack DB
[07:16] <sol> what program?
[07:16] <navyn> configure, make, make install?
[07:16] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> its jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586
[07:17] <Syco54645> i dont see valknut, qdvdauthor, dvdstyler
[07:17] <TheDemon> oh god, not java
[07:17] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> yes
[07:17] <TheDemon> Syco54645: add the universal repositories, then you probobly will
[07:18] <professor_chaos> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, and why install on desktop, and not link on desktop
[07:18] <navyn> i uninstalled e17, now trying to install e16, but synaptic craps out
[07:18] <TheDemon> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: java.sun.com has a nice tutorial they made for their package, you should use it.
[07:18] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> woops i read the wrong file name
[07:18] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> its wine
[07:18] <navyn> Says there is no available version, but exists in database
[07:18] <TheDemon> use it's repositoty than Cry_Mac_Ubuntu
[07:18] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> ok
[07:19] <TheDemon> wine.com, get the ubuntu repository
[07:19] <TheDemon> add it in synaptic, or to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <navyn> where can I edit the database, or can i?
[07:23] <calamari> navyn: hoary?
[07:23] <Syco54645> TheDemon, what do you mean?
[07:23] <navyn> yes
[07:23] <ReleaseX> when i iwlist scan eth1, it tells me the operation is not supported.  I'm have a wireless card that uses orinoco, how can i get scan function to work
[07:23] <Syco54645> TheDemon, i can show you what i have in a pm
[07:24] <TheDemon> fine
[07:24] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Okay, guys. That guy is gone. Now he was giving you the wrong thing. It's actually wine from source.
[07:24] <navyn> i tried e17, through the instructions on ubuntuforums, but uninstalled it, using synaptic, and wanted to install e16
[07:24] <chris> leave
[07:24] <navyn> that is in the universe repo
[07:24] <bedi> the output error wen i lauch gdm is, X is not executable
[07:24] <Drummer> hi all, how do i go about setting up my ubuntu server as a print server?
[07:24] <TheDemon> Syco54645: go ahead
[07:25] <bedi> and i give chmod 777 to /etc/X11/X
[07:25] <Drummer> i'm not sure what packages i need, and i'll be working over ssh (no X)
[07:25] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I can't get the synaptic package manager to use the wine repository, and the interface has changed since the documentation.
[07:25] <calamari> navyn: and you have uni/multi in your sources.list I'd assume?
[07:26] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> So I went to sourceforge and downloaded the most recent source, and saved it to my desktop.
[07:26] <navyn> yes
[07:26] <navyn> it shows it in there but whenever i click apply to install it is when i get the message
[07:26] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Now I just want to tell ubuntu to compile and run it.
[07:26] <calamari> navyn: hmm.. dunno.. tried refresh?
[07:26] <calamari> err Readload excuse me
[07:26] <navyn> yep
[07:26] <calamari> dunnho then, sorry
[07:27] <navyn> says package has no available version, but exists in database
[07:27] <arathald> I'm trying to get Ogre working- it says its missing files (libOgreMain.so and I suspect also libOgrePlatform.so). there are files in the correct directories labeled libOgreMain.la and libOgrePlatform.la -- whats the deal with this?
[07:27] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> navvyn, are you running on an ibm, or a mac?
[07:27] <navyn> ibm
[07:28] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> okay, nevermind then.
[07:28] <ReleaseX> when i iwlist scan eth1, it tells me the operation is not supported.  I'm have a wireless card that uses orinoco, how can i get scan function to work
[07:28] <calamari> navyn: I'm only seeing two things with e16: e16keyedit, and e16menuedit
[07:29] <professor_chaos> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, if its not a *.deb, you have to compile yourself.
[07:29] <navyn> search for enlightenment
[07:29] <Marble2> can someone help me out? I'm mounting this partition as rw, but when I try to delete files in it, it says cannot delete, read-only file system. what am I doing wrong?
[07:29] <Drummer> anyone??
[07:29] <Gatton> Marble2, if you do an ls -l on it what do the permissions say?
[07:29] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Yes, it is a .tar.gz. I know i need to compile it, but I have never used linux before this week, so I don't know how. I just wanna run diablo.
[07:29] <professor_chaos> Marble2, what type of filesystem (ntfs, fat32, ext)
[07:30] <Marble2> -r--------
[07:30] <Gatton> yikes
[07:30] <Marble2> oh, haha, I think it might be ntfs
[07:30] <Marble2> no wonder mount is forcing me to use read-only
[07:30] <Gatton> Marble2, ahhh in that case no worky. without ntfs write support compiled in. which i don't have the balls to try myself ;)
[07:30] <Marble2> I was just going to delete all the files in it anyway
[07:31] <Marble2> guess I'll go format it to fat32
[07:31] <professor_chaos> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, try (from the commandline) type tar -xvzf *.tar.gz   to extract.
[07:31] <Marble2> err. how do I foramt a partition?
[07:31] <killapop> Marble2: use qtparted
[07:32] <professor_chaos> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, then from commandline, within the newly created directory, type compile  , then "make", then "make install"
[07:32] <Marble2> isn't there a command line option
[07:32] <Gatton> cfdisk?
[07:32] <cry_mac_ubuntu> professor_chaos: thank you. what ar all those variables?
[07:32] <Marble2> mkfs isn't it?
[07:32] <Gatton> hmm i thought mkfs worked after the format?
[07:32] <Gatton> or after you set your partition type i should say
[07:32] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu,  the tar options???
[07:33] <Gatton> not sure
[07:33] <cry_mac_ubuntu> professor_chaos:  yeah. Also, will that work for ppc as well?
[07:34] <killapop> im having a spot of trouble installing xfce from source
[07:35] <killapop> sorry - im gonna use synaptic :D
[07:35] <cry_mac_ubuntu> is the commandline the same as the root terminal?
[07:35] <professor_chaos> Not sure about ppc, but -x is to extract, -z is for uncompress (use on .gz or bz files) and I foget what -f is for but its always used. Check the man pages for tar by typing man tar.
[07:36] <Madpilot> !compile
[07:36] <ubotu> hmm... compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand
[07:37] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, no command is just a shell (window) interface to the os. Root termial is the same thing, but with root privialges.
[07:37] <Madpilot> hi all
[07:37] <crimsun> killapop: you don't need to install it "from source"
[07:37] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, try not to use root terminal. Instead, use the command sudo.
[07:38] <crimsun> killapop: just enable the universe repository, then install 'xfce4'
[07:39] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, use System -> Terminal
[07:39] <cry_mac_ubuntu> crystufer@ubuntumac
[07:40] <Marble2> hmmm. I added a partition to my fstab, now I go to mount it and I get an error saying only root can mount the partition?
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> crystufer@ubuntumac:~$ tar -xvzf Wine-20050725.tar.gz
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> tar: Wine-20050725.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> tar: Child returned status 2
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> crystufer@ubuntumac:~$
[07:40] <cry_mac_ubuntu> Whoops, sorry.
[07:40] <Madpilot> !paste
[07:40] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:40] <Gatton> bwahah oops :)
[07:40] <Madpilot> cry_mac_ubuntu: see above ^^^
[07:40] <Madpilot> ;)
[07:41] <professor_chaos> Marble2, thats correct only root (by default) can mount. Try sudo mount etc
[07:42] <Marble2> professor_chaos: I thought I could mount if it was in my fstab?
[07:42] <valerie_de> hi all i'm new ubuntu user
[07:42] <Gatton> valerie_de, welcome
[07:42] <professor_chaos> Marble2, only at boot time.
[07:42] <Marble2> oh
[07:42] <Marble2> ok
[07:42] <professor_chaos> Marble2, to mount now, you need to supply the command
[07:42] <cry_mac_ubuntu> do i need to change the command to specify the exact location of the tar?
[07:43] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, either that or cd to that directory
[07:43] <Marble2> huh
[07:43] <Marble2> why am i getting a "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock" error?
[07:43] <Marble2> I just formatted this partition
[07:44] <Gatton> Marble2, what fs type? ext3? reiser?
[07:44] <Marble2> er i got it
[07:44] <Marble2> it was fat32
[07:44] <Marble2> i had a bad line in my fstab
[07:44] <Marble2> and professor_chaos, yes you can mount at any time if it is in the fstab
[07:44] <Marble2> i just had a incorrectly formatted line, so it wouldn't let me
[07:45] <Gatton> cool. good to know
[07:45] <professor_chaos> Marble2, yes, but the system wont do it for you. You have to supply the mount command
[07:45] <Marble2> i know
[07:45] <Marble2> I was supplying the command
[07:46] <alberttto> Hello,, when hubuntu startsup i it runs a checkdisk then it tells me it had some error's,to press ctrl d or enter roots password,,, the thing is that at that point the keuyboard doesnt work..
[07:46] <professor_chaos> Marble2, the fstab is to supply the necessary information to mount at boot.
[07:46] <alberttto> can anyone help ?
[07:47] <Marble2> right
[07:47] <Marble2> but what I'm saying is, you can mount a partition as a normal user even when you aren't booting if that partition is specified in your fstab
[07:47] <sol> not just at boot...
[07:48] <alberttto> anyone ?
[07:48] <hondje> alberttto: have you tried booting into the safe mode thingie in grub?
[07:48] <alberttto> yes
[07:48] <alberttto> same outcome
[07:49] <hondje> then I'd get out a liveCD and fsck the drive with that
[07:49] <cry_mac_ubuntu> Terminal is a pain, but it is doing something now.
[07:49] <alberttto> hondje im in ecuador and i dont have a boot cd
[07:49] <alberttto> and i need some documents from that partition
[07:49] <alberttto> :-(
[07:49] <professor_chaos> Yes, I stand corrected, if you specify privilage in fstab (of course with sudo privialges) then yes you can mount with normal privilages.
[07:49] <cry_mac_ubuntu> wine-20050725/tools/wrc/
[07:50] <donofrio> need some assistance with a x86 load....
[07:50] <donofrio> [01:43]  <donofrio> getting a non bootable dell notebook.....says /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[07:50] <donofrio> [01:43]  <donofrio> kernel panic on boot?
[07:50] <cry_mac_ubuntu> It gave me a whole bunch of that.
[07:50] <alberttto> there is got to be an way to get around it
[07:50] <hondje> alberttto: are you using a ps2 keyboard?
[07:50] <professor_chaos> BTY, how do you spell privilages. I no I am spelling it wrong.
[07:50] <donofrio> loaded first 30 min on newer dell cpi 366 notebook - moved hard drive to noncd bootable dell xpicd 166 and now it doesn't finish booting?
[07:51] <alberttto> its a laptop
[07:51] <Madpilot> professor_chaos: "privileges" ;)
[07:51] <donofrio> yep
[07:51] <hondje> alberttto: ah...can you attach a keyboard to it?
[07:51] <hondje> That's about all I can think of
[07:51] <professor_chaos> Maddy, thanks, its been a long day.......
[07:51] <alberttto> i cant start single mode
[07:51] <alberttto> ?
[07:52] <professor_chaos> Madpilot, thanks
[07:52] <donofrio> anyone know why my load won't boot?
[07:52] <hondje> alberttto: I don't really know, I'm just throwing ideas out, what I would try :-/
[07:53] <cry_mac_ubuntu> professor_chaos:  Did you say to input "compile"?
[07:53] <PPC_Guy> hey all.. can anyone piont me to where I need to read about multiverse?
[07:53] <donofrio> anyone
[07:53] <Madpilot> professor_chaos: np. the Gnome Dictionary is a great help..
[07:54] <professor_chaos> PPC_Guy, what did you want to learn about multiverse?
[07:54] <cafuego> !repos
[07:54] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:54] <cafuego> I image that's what you're afster...?
[07:55] <PPC_Guy> that be what OI'
[07:55] <PPC_Guy> I'm looking for thankx
[07:56] <donofrio> oaded first 30 min on newer dell cpi 366 notebook - moved hard drive to noncd bootable dell xpicd 166 and now it doesn't finish booting?
[07:56] <donofrio> need some assistance with a x86 load....
[07:56] <donofrio> getting a non bootable dell notebook.....says /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[07:56] <donofrio> kernel panic on boot?
[07:56] <cry_mac_ubuntu> I got it to create the wine directory from the tarball, but I'm still having trouble getting it to compile the program.
[07:57] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, what problems???
[07:57] <cry_mac_ubuntu> bash: compile: command not found
[07:57] <cry_mac_ubuntu> that one.
[07:58] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, did you ./compile
[07:58] <doroto> he
[07:58] <lurah> Windows Vista cames from Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans and Adware
[07:58] <black13> i want to build xorg debug how would i do that
[07:58] <cry_mac_ubuntu> no. ididnt know to.
[07:58] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, also, if there is a make file, just try "make"
[07:58] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, I mean Makefile
[07:59] <PPC_Guy> another question from a n00b. Bought another hd for my linux box.. Where's a good howto on the install? Not the physical. But I what I have to do software wise?
[07:59] <cry_mac_ubuntu> what do you mean a make file?
[07:59] <ReleaseX> when i iwlist scan eth1, it tells me the operation is not supported.  I'm have a wireless card that uses orinoco, how can i get scan function to work
[07:59] <hondje> PPC_Guy: you have to add it to your /etc/fstab file
[07:59] <cafuego> PPC_Guy: Install physically, then boot up, format is (using fdisk/parted and mkfs) and add it to /etc/fstab.
[07:59] <lurah> is there any "simple and well explained tutorial about usung linux for really stupid ones" like me? :D
[07:59] <hondje> man mount and man fstab explain it really well :-)
[07:59] <lurah> using*
[08:00] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, often, source code comes with instructions on what the compiler is to compile. Its usually in a "Makefile"
[08:00] <hondje> lurah: you're at it ;-)
[08:00] <PPC_Guy> cool thanks... Smart enough to read man pages.. Just didn't know which ones to go to
[08:00] <doroto> v
[08:00] <Madpilot> lurah: wiki.ubuntu.com is a decent place to start, aside from right here
[08:01] <lurah> how i can run install.sh file? :D
[08:01] <lurah> darn, i cant do even that :D
[08:01] <professor_chaos> cry_mac_ubuntu, why are your compiling. You can install wine from the repo.
[08:01] <professor_chaos> lurah, try sh ./install.sh
[08:02] <lurah> ok, thx
[08:02] <cry_mac_ubuntu> wine isn't in the repository.
[08:02] <donofrio> getting a non bootable dell notebook.....says /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[08:02] <donofrio> anyone care?
[08:02] <Madpilot> cry_mac_ubuntu: sure it is - Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator) This is an ALPHA release of Wine, the MS-Windows emulator. "
[08:02] <cry_mac_ubuntu> They have one, but I can't get synaptic for hoary to use it.
[08:02] <cry_mac_ubuntu> That is the documentation.
[08:02] <cry_mac_ubuntu> The only one si can fine is.
[08:03] <Madpilot> cry_mac_ubuntu: I've got "wine" and "wine-doc" listed. Seperate packages, both in Universe
[08:03] <professor_chaos> you have to add additional repos. Try adding ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[08:04] <cry_mac_ubuntu> That's the thing, I can't get it to add a repo. The documentation is old.
[08:04] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:04] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:04] <Madpilot> cry_mac_ubuntu: you've seen the URL that ubotu just produced? That's for Hoary
[08:05] <cratuki> Could anyone suggest why ls for ubuntu would give a different sort order to ls for other distros like gentoo?
[08:05] <cratuki> Under gentoo, ls orders _ as being before anything else
[08:05] <cratuki> whereas under ubuntu, it ignores the _ character when considering sort order
[08:05] <professor_chaos> I gota go. Good luck cry_mac_ubuntu
[08:05] <professor_chaos> good night all!
[08:06] <cratuki> This is annoying because like to have directories called _backup, _bin, etc that display at the top of a listing
[08:06] <hondje> alias -p and see if there's an alias affecting either of them?
[08:07] <cratuki> No - same on both machines
[08:07] <hondje> No clue then :)
[08:07] <cratuki> "ls -lF"
[08:07] <cratuki> thanks anyway :)
[08:07] <cratuki> I suppose I could just copy the binary in from the other machine
[08:07] <deFrysk> cratuki, man ls
[08:07] <Madpilot> cratuki: have a look thru "man ls" and see what sort options you can find.
[08:08] <lurah> ok, i dont have es18xx here. do i need to download it from somewhere to get my darn old ISA sound card work?
[08:08] <Madpilot> cratuki: another thought - does gentoo use a different version of "ls" than Ubuntu does?
[08:09] <cratuki> I'm not sure how to tell - ubuntu will be package derived?
[08:09] <cratuki> I'm guessing there's a build option in ubuntu that's changing it.
[08:09] <Madpilot> cratuki: "ls --version"
[08:09] <cratuki> Nothing in the ls sort options seems to allow you to manually denote exclude characters
[08:10] <Madpilot> lurah: in Ubuntu, do a file search for es18xx
[08:10] <cratuki> aah... it may not be a ls thing... my other binary displays it the same
[08:12] <deFrysk> cratuki, perhaps try mc as filemanager ?
[08:12] <cratuki> hehe
[08:12] <cratuki> I'll have a think about it. thanks guys
[08:12] <lurah> lol, ok. how i search some file? have to do it from console?
[08:12] <cratuki> that would work
[08:13] <Madpilot> lurah: Places - Search for Files
[08:13] <cratuki> the command is just 'find'
[08:13] <lurah> lol, ok
[08:13] <hondje> places -> search for files for the gui
[08:13] <Gatton> find / -name blah
[08:13] <hondje> grep if you want to search inside a file
[08:13] <Gatton> or i guess if you use sudo you'll get fewer no permission warnings
[08:13] <cratuki> lurah: find is actually very powerful, once you get comfortable with that usage, there are ways to get find to execute operations on matching files too.
[08:14] <Madpilot> Gatton: just discovered that. make it "sudo find / -name <foo>"...
[08:14] <Keegan> where can one find a list off all these commands?
[08:14] <lurah> is it find / -es18xx (?)
[08:14] <Gatton> Madpilot, yep that's what i do
[08:14] <Madpilot> lurah: see my reply to Gatton above ^^^
[08:14] <Gatton> hey that reminds me...is there an indexer for ubuntu? i seem to recall i used to use that on a distro way back
[08:15] <troglodyt> first "sudo updatedb", then "locate <filename>"
[08:15] <Gatton> you would invoke it and it indexed your drive and then you had faster searches
[08:16] <Madpilot> lurah & Gatton: "sudo find / -name *es18*" finds it
[08:16] <lurah> lol, ok. now it really does something :D
[08:16] <Madpilot> you've got to have the wildcard * in there
[08:16] <hondje> it'd be easier if ls could show absolute paths
[08:17] <Madpilot> I've been rude about the CLI before, and I'm sure I will be again, but as you start to get used to it it's quite cool, some of the things you can do...
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> okay, here's what i tried
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> i used tune2fs -O ^has_journal
[08:17] <Gatton> eventually you will bring up a term pretty much every session
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> then deleted .journal
[08:17] <deFrysk> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> now i have an ext2fs, right?
[08:17] <deFrysk> there it is
[08:17] <Madpilot> Gatton: I already do. 2nd thing I start, right after my browser...
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> e2fsck says its clean
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> but parted still wont resize it
[08:18] <PurpleMotion> (*&$#@Y)%(*$#(%*
[08:18] <PurpleMotion> this is starting to piss me off
[08:18] <hondje> That means it's miller time
[08:18] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: if the partition is mounted, I'm not sure you *can* resize it...
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> man
[08:19] <lurah> ok, now i know where is that snd-es18xx.ko
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> it's not/wasn't mounted
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> im not stupid
[08:19] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: OK, it was just a thought... I'm putting off resizing my partitions until I get more comfortable w/ Linux...
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> lurah:  you should be able to just: insmod snd-es18xx.ko
[08:20] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  I'm not sure that you can resize ext3 without partition magic (which i dont have)
[08:20] <lurah> "insmod: error inserting 'snd-es18xx.ko': -1 No such device
[08:20] <lurah> "
[08:20] <PurpleMotion> lurah:  try: insmod snd-es18xx
[08:20] <sproingie> parted should resize ext3 with no problems
[08:20] <desrt> does anyone know how to modify the ubuntu installer cd to add more repositories/packages to it and put them on the default install list?
[08:20] <hondje> I resized ext3 the other day, no biggie
[08:20] <deFrysk> PurpleMotion, use parted
[08:21] <PurpleMotion> I've BEEN using parted, people
[08:21] <deFrysk> PurpleMotion, afaIk ext3 is easyest to resize along with ext2
[08:21] <hondje> lol
[08:22] <PurpleMotion> parted says the filesystom has some strange attributes and will not be modified
[08:22] <f_newton> ext3 is just ext2 with journaling
[08:22] <sproingie> i dont think the journal cares that much about the partition specifics
[08:22] <deFrysk> f_newton, yup
[08:22] <PurpleMotion> I'm aware, does not change the fact that parted will not resize it
[08:22] <f_newton> defrysk... yup
[08:22] <sproingie> interesting fact
[08:22] <deFrysk> ;p
[08:22] <hondje> I bet that's frustrating
[08:22] <sproingie> because i've done it several times
[08:22] <lurah> darn, just claims that "no such device"
[08:23] <PurpleMotion> and according to what ive seen ont he net, that's the case for a LOT of people... they recommend turning off journaling and then resizing using parted, but parted at that point gives me the exact same message
[08:23] <f_newton> I use whatever auto partitioner is provided by the os
[08:23] <sproingie> parted even resizes ntfs without defragging it
[08:23] <f_newton> easy peezy\
[08:24] <sproingie> hell if i can figure how it does that
[08:24] <cafuego> sproingie: yes, but it DOES risk your data.
[08:24] <f_newton> i would think that pretty easy to figure out sproingie
[08:24] <PurpleMotion> the only thing i can think of that could be causing a problem is that i need to add to the BEGINNING of the partition
[08:24] <sproingie> cafuego: naw, it's really safe
[08:25] <hondje> how do you fsck vfat? I think my mp3 player would like some love and care
[08:25] <cafuego> hondje: fsck.vfat eh
[08:25] <hondje> fsck /dev/whatever and let it figure it out for itself?
[08:25] <hondje> awesome
[08:25] <PurpleMotion> i have hda1 which is 15g (/) and hda4 which is 50g (/home).. i want to add 30g tot he beginning of hda4
[08:25] <f_newton> how much free space are you leaveing for the partion adjustment swapping to work in PurpleMotion ?
[08:25] <cafuego> sproingie: Well, as safe as running windows, probably.
[08:25] <PurpleMotion> like 9g
[08:26] <f_newton> you still have 9g of free space within the rezised partition?
[08:26] <hondje> does that make all the inodes contiguous, cafuego ?
[08:26] <sproingie> cafuego: heh yeah.  ntfsresize is probably safer than using ntfs
[08:26] <PurpleMotion> i cant resize the partition
[08:26] <cafuego> hondje: No. That's what defrag is for.
[08:27] <hondje> hmm
[08:29] <PurpleMotion> who do all the oddball 'thats not supposed to happen' things always ALWAYS happen to me
[08:29] <hondje> defrag says it only does ext2, minix and xiafs
[08:29] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: because they have to happen to *somebody*? ;)
[08:30] <PurpleMotion> BLAH
[08:30] <Madpilot> sorry, that probably wasn't helpful...
[08:30] <hondje> Take one for the team, man
[08:30] <PurpleMotion> heh
[08:30] <PurpleMotion> look
[08:30] <PurpleMotion> i need to resize this partition
[08:30] <PurpleMotion> there's no other plausible way for me to do this
[08:31] <redtech> !w32codecs
[08:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org )
[08:31] <hondje> hmm, defrag doesn't support vfat, and dosfstools doesn't make inodes contiguous ... what shall hondje do?
[08:31] <Keegan> can I install the KDE core desktop onto ubuntu?
[08:32] <hondje> Keegan: yes
[08:32] <synd_> Keegan: yes
[08:32] <PurpleMotion> Keegan:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <deFrysk> Keegan, please dont
[08:32] <deFrysk> Keegan, its sooooo ugly
[08:32] <deFrysk> ;p
[08:32] <Keegan> can I use synamptic?
[08:32] <Keegan> is it?
[08:32] <deFrysk> yes
[08:32] <deFrysk> very
[08:32] <PurpleMotion> I heart kde
[08:32] <hondje> Keegan: don't mind him, he's dutch
[08:32] <PurpleMotion> u shuddup DeFi
[08:32] <PurpleMotion> err deFrysk
[08:32] <hondje> :-)
[08:32] <professor_chaos> its just eyecandy
[08:32] <deFrysk> hondje, ;p
[08:32] <Keegan> well, I am very much a beginner at this
[08:33] <sproingie> i think someone wanting to install kde isn't interested in random hate from the peanut gallery
[08:33] <hondje> Keegan: You can use synaptic
[08:33] <PurpleMotion> kde rules
[08:33] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, as far as I know the only limitations you run in to is if you are trying to change the mft locations with a resizer or you dont have enough swap room on your potential resized partition to place the "files in waiting"
[08:33] <Keegan> if it will cause problems, I won't do it
[08:33] <sproingie> let him install it and make up his mind
[08:33] <hondje> Keegan: Just enable the 'universe' repositories
[08:33] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  mft?
[08:33] <hondje> Keegan: there's nothing wrong with it, it's just personal taste :)
[08:33] <professor_chaos> Keegan, ya, install it and find out what you like better.
[08:33] <Keegan> hondje: how do I enable universe repositories?
[08:33] <hondje> !tell Keegan about repos
[08:34] <professor_chaos> Keegan, gnome works best for me!
[08:34] <hondje> voila!
[08:34] <f_newton> yeah its the part of the ntfs file table that you cannot move without a good commercial defragger
[08:34] <f_newton> diskeeper works
[08:34] <deFrysk> !unuverse
[08:34] <ubotu> deFrysk: I haven't a clue
[08:34] <deFrysk> !universe
[08:34] <hondje> that's lame
[08:34] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[08:34] <deFrysk> !repositories
[08:34] <ubotu> well, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:34] <hondje> it's the 21st century, why doesn't it take care of itself
[08:34] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  im trying to resize ext3
[08:34] <DigitalFox> can anyone recommend a good GNOME menu editor?
[08:34] <sproingie> f_newton: the lovely thing about the mft is the way it grows and grows, since every file under 512 bytes actually lives inside the mft
[08:34] <hondje> DigitalFox: Smeg
[08:34] <deFrysk> DigitalFox, smeg
[08:34] <professor_chaos> DigitalFox, Smeg
[08:35] <f_newton> well then crud never mind
[08:35] <Amaranth> *beep* *beep* *beep*
[08:35] <professor_chaos> Smeg it is
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> hondje: use mkfs.vfat   and just use the format command to clean it up
[08:35] <Amaranth> !smeg
[08:35] <ubotu> methinks smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[08:35] <hondje> Linux_Galore: Wouldn't that delete the data, though?
[08:35] <DigitalFox> aww, not in the main repositories
[08:35] <DigitalFox> thanks though
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> hondje: well what are you trying to do ??
[08:36] <sproingie> man, this damn box has some heat problems
[08:36] <Amaranth> DigitalFox: I'm going to be in main and the default in breezy.
[08:36] <f_newton> smeg are the little chunky bits left behind in the bog after a serious clog...
[08:36] <Amaranth> err, It's
[08:36] <sproingie> does linux support the amd cool&quiet mode?
[08:36] <hondje> Linux_Galore: make the inodes contiguous on my mp3 player, which mounts as an external usb drive
[08:36] <DigitalFox> Ubuntu needs a graphical installer for .deb files
[08:37] <Amaranth> f_newton: smeg is Simple Menu Editor for GNOME or a generic swear word from red dwarf
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> hondje: the fs is defined by the players firmware
[08:37] <DigitalFox> you know, simple "This will install the package for "smeg""
[08:37] <hondje> Linux_Galore: It's vfat
[08:37] <f_newton> Amaranth, yes thats where I got the chunky bits remark\\
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> hondje: yeah but there is vfat and then there is somthing that looks like vfat thanks to some firmware
[08:37] <hondje> It's literally a usb minidrive with stuff added on
[08:37] <hondje> oh
[08:38] <hondje> stupid archos
[08:38] <f_newton> rimmer's a smeghead...
[08:38] <sproingie> oddly, the file manager doesn't have an "install" options for deb
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> reddwarf:
[08:38] <Linux_Galore>    Cat "There's one thing you should know. Last time we met I was wearing
[08:38] <Linux_Galore>    a cute little black number with peach trim and gold spangles, and
[08:38] <Linux_Galore>    although it looks like I'm wearing the same outfit today, it is in
[08:38] <Linux_Galore>    fact an entirely different cute little black number, with completely
[08:38] <Linux_Galore>    different gold spangles! "
[08:38] <Linux_Galore>    - Cat, Rimmerworld
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> 
[08:38] <PurpleMotion> GALORE!
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> sorry
[08:38] <PurpleMotion> <-- Jay (x_umop_episdn_x form yahoo)
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> usually there not that long
[08:38] <PurpleMotion> whats up
[08:39] <Madpilot> Linux_Galore: that'll be a unique cut'n'paste to be booted for... ;)
[08:39] <hondje> The docs with it recommend running windows defrag on it regularly, but naturally I don't have windows so I was trying to figure out what to do...been a good year or so since I did anything with it
[08:39] <professor_chaos> Linux_Galore is a geek
[08:39] <grover> hmm any ubuntu java nice solution? the repos published by the ubuntu java project seem to not be working
[08:39] <sproingie> Madpilot: naw, you flood here and you get devoiced
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> Madpilot: ?? cut and past....why would I use that with Linux
[08:39] <Amaranth> hondje: why would a flash drive need defragmented?
[08:39] <Madpilot> grover: the real thing works just fine - the JRE
[08:39] <hondje> Amaranth: it's not a flash drive
[08:39] <Amaranth> hondje: there is no speed penalty for seeking
[08:39] <Amaranth> oh
[08:39] <hondje> It's a harddrive
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> guys, Linux_Galore is the person who got me onto ubuntu
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> lol Im a geek.... what of it
[08:40] <Madpilot> Linux_Galore: OK, copy-paste or middle-click-paste - you know what I meant...
[08:40] <hondje> funky toy, little brick for mp3, can connect to stuff and rip, microphone, CF reader, etc
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> Im also the guy who likes to piss the ubuntu dev guys off...lol
[08:40] <professor_chaos> Linux_Galore, its cool. Me too, I love red dwarf.
[08:40] <f_newton> it was an op in fedora that brought me to fedora
[08:40] <f_newton> uh ubuntu
[08:40] <f_newton> lol
[08:40] <DigitalFox> any other menu editors aside from smeg? smeg requires a later python-xdg package than ubuntu has
[08:40] <Amaranth> DigitalFox: I know of two others.
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> porfyeah I created a script that grabs stuff from the bcc
[08:41] <Linux_Galore> oops
[08:41] <Linux_Galore> professor_chaos: thats was for you
[08:41] <Amaranth> DigitalFox: And they require GNOME 2.11
[08:41] <hondje> doesn't you install script install the python stuff, Amaranth ?
[08:42] <Keegan> after I have enabled the universe repos, do I just instal the core KDE desktop enviroment?
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> SCRIPS Alert*
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> cat reddwarf
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> #!/bin/bash
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> #Gets RedDwarf quote from BBC
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> lynx --dump http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/reddwarf/factbox/index.shtml \
[08:42] <Linux_Galore>         |gawk "{IGNORECASE=1}; /send it in./,/Suggested/" \
[08:42] <Linux_Galore>         |sed -e "1d" -e "s/Suggested.*//"
[08:42] <deFrysk> Keegan, kubuntu-desktop
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> thats it
[08:42] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Linux_Galore about paste
[08:43] <deFrysk> hightlight is copy
[08:43] <Keegan> so I have to put on a completely seperate OS?
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> put that in a text file called reddwarf and chmod a+x  reddwarf  then mc  reddwarf  /usr/local/bin
[08:43] <deFrysk> middle click is paste
[08:43] <DigitalFox> Keegan: no
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> oops
[08:43] <DigitalFox> Keegan: it's a separate package for Ubuntu
[08:43] <Linux_Galore>  mv  reddwarf  /usr/local/bin
[08:43] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: Don't do that.
[08:43] <DigitalFox> it's not a separate OS, just a separate operating environment
[08:44] <grover> Madpilot: is there a repo for the JRE?
[08:44] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:44] <DigitalFox> grover: backports
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> hmm piiiiza
[08:44] <Amaranth> DigitalFox: No, backports don't have Java.
[08:44] <deFrysk> !jre
[08:44] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, deFrysk
[08:44] <hondje> !java
[08:44] <ubotu> methinks java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[08:44] <Amaranth> DigitalFox: hoary-extras is a _seperate_ repository and project
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> http://java.sun.com
[08:44] <Amaranth> DigitalFox: And basically everything in hoary-extras is illegal
[08:44] <Madpilot> !find sun-j2re1.5
[08:44] <PPC_Guy> hey all 'nother question.. Anyone running BitchX with Hoary?
[08:45] <hondje> For various values of illegal
[08:45] <redtech> damn I just found a problem with this switch over..  I gotta get new porn now
[08:45] <Linux_Galore> lol
[08:45] <Madpilot> sometimes goofy values of illegal...
[08:45] <Madpilot> redtech: your porn was OS-specific?
[08:45] <f_newton> lol
[08:45] <petti> :D
[08:45] <professor_chaos> redguy_,  all my old porn is compatible????
[08:45] <Amaranth> Guys...
[08:46] <hondje> I think it's relevant
[08:46] <redtech> technicall not..  but wmv files
[08:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'sun-j2re1.5' returned no results.
[08:46] <professor_chaos> Linux if very pro-pron
[08:46] <hondje> I know someone who switched so they can browse pornsites without worry
[08:46] <petti> is there a porn-howto for ububtu or linux in general?
[08:46] <petti> there should be if not..
[08:46] <deFrysk> porn-OS
[08:46] <deFrysk> nice ring :)
[08:46] <professor_chaos> lol
[08:46] <hondje> lesbian linux, with porn-get
[08:46] <crimsun> discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:46] <Madpilot> Amaranth: sorry, it was too good a line to pass up...
[08:46] <windex> i think someone made a livecd with a whole load of porn on it once.
[08:46] <redtech> and streaming quicktime videos?
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> theres some nice plugins for firefox for pron sites Ive noticed.
[08:47] <Madpilot> redtech: all of that stuff is in w32codecs.
[08:47] <hondje> !tell redtech about restricted
[08:47] <f_newton> so... how bout ubuntu
[08:47] <redtech> i installed that
[08:47] <f_newton> ?
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> I use wine and quicktime to get that stuff working
[08:47] <hondje> that's a whole lot of work, Linux_Galore
[08:47] <redtech> crimsun, thx didnt know that was there.
[08:47] <redtech> hondje, thanks for the link
[08:47] <PPC_Guy> would a simple apt-get install BitchX work? Or is that wishful thinkin?
[08:47] <hondje> PPC_Guy: I bet it would
[08:47] <crimsun> PPC_Guy: 'bitchx'
[08:47] <Madpilot> redtech: ah, sorry, QuickTime streaming is one of the things that doesn't work, AFAIK
[08:48] <hondje> PPC_Guy: it's in universe
[08:48] <proven> hello
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> hondje: nope no work at all....Ive got crossover, theres an install wizard that does the whole lot for you...download quicktime installs it and links it in
[08:48] <PPC_Guy> sweet.. it worked.. Just thought I would ask first... Didn't want to muck anything up
[08:48] <PPC_Guy> brb
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> <-- has quicktime streaming working dine
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> fine*
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> im gonna make some burritos, bbiaf
[08:50] <transgress> anyone know a good wiki for setting up NFS?
[08:50] <cledusddp> thanx for the help.. missed bitchx :)
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> transgress:  www.google.com/linux  is your buddy
[08:50] <hondje> transgress: is there none on the wiki.ubuntu.com site?
[08:50] <Keegan> i installed GCC, now how do i get it to run?
[08:50] <hondje> transgress: if not, I should make one, I haven't written a page in like, a week
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> Keegan: ?? you dont
[08:51] <hondje> man gcc :)
[08:51] <Keegan> Linux_Galore, I thought it was a compiler
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> Keegan: the source build code that you download will use gcc
[08:51] <Madpilot> transgress: it looks like there's a bunch of NFS pages in the ubuntu wiki
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> Keegan: yes its a compiler....thats all it is
[08:51] <proven> why i cant load my linux to a LCD monitor
[08:52] <Keegan> linux_galore: so I cannot write my own C++ code?
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> Keegan: yes
[08:52] <hondje> Of course you can, Keegan
[08:52] <cledusddp> quetion.. Is there more success at DVD play back with Mplayer than Totem?
[08:52] <Keegan> hondje: with wat?
[08:52] <cledusddp> All Totem does on my sys is lock up
[08:52] <hondje> Keegan: with whatever you want....I personally use vim
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> Keegan: gcc isnt fro creating code it just a compiler.....you need to find a front end editor
[08:53] <professor_chaos> for me, totem works, mplayer doesn't
[08:53] <hondje> same here, I use totem-xine
[08:53] <proven> what is a compiler
[08:53] <cledusddp> guess I'll grab mplayer and try my luck.. thx
[08:53] <jack|ass> has anyone seen a problem with SSH on ubuntu where you'll connect to a remote server and if you leave it a couple five minutes, it'll lock up?
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> Ive noticed gnome 2.10 has done a major refit of totem
[08:53] <Keegan> hondje: wat r a couple of other ones out there?
[08:53] <hondje> proven: to oversimplify it, it takes code and turns it into 1s and 0s
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> oops  2.12 sorry
[08:53] <jack|ass> (you'll have to reconnect)
[08:54] <hondje> Keegan: emacs, nano, gedit....tons
[08:54] <proven> aahhh, any specific application?
[08:54] <hondje> If you're wanting an IDE I can't think of a gnome one, I use qt designer
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> I was commenting how there isnt a services manager in Ubuntu or gnome and then I install gnome 2.12 of cvs and bingo theres a services manager
[08:54] <hondje> for what little I code that requires a gui
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> Chaotic_Reality:  it work?
[08:55] <hondje> !tell proven about restricted
[08:55] <hondje> proven: that'll help you out :)
[08:55] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: They moved the playlist, that's about it. :P
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: no in the new version of totem the back end is gstreamer now
[08:56] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: It is in 2.10 too.
[08:56] <hondje> unless you install totem-xine
[08:56] <Amaranth> Exactly.
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: I didnt thing 2.10 used gstreamer
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> think*
[08:56] <cledusddp> how would I go about that? Just an apt-get?
[08:57] <Amaranth> 2.10 uses gstreamer all over the place
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> aah
[08:57] <hanasaki> anyuone got postfix running w/ maildir delivery?
[08:57] <hondje> cledusddp: do what?
[08:57] <cledusddp> install totem-xine
[08:57] <hondje> cledusddp: ah, yes... apt-get install totem-xine
[08:57] <synd_> !tell synd about restricted
[08:57] <lurah> sudo apt-get install gftp gives me an "E: Couldn't find package gftp" for a third day. is it anymore available at all?
[08:57] <hanasaki> thoght totem and xine were competitors?
[08:57] <synd_> wow, thats nice
[08:58] <cledusddp> thx
[08:58] <hondje> competitors?
[08:58] <Amaranth> hanasaki: err, no
[08:58] <hanasaki> what is totem vs xine
[08:58] <Amaranth> hanasaki: there are no competitors in open-source software
[08:58] <Amaranth> !info gftp
[08:58] <hondje> hanasaki: do you have universe enabled?
[08:58] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[08:58] <crimsun> hanasaki: no. Totem is capable of using gstreamer or xine for the backend.
[08:58] <hanasaki> yes
[08:58] <hanasaki> ah.. so why use one vs the toher?
[08:58] <dade`>   gedit: Depends: libaspell15 (>= 0.60) but it is not going to be installed
[08:58] <dade`> E: Broken packages
[08:58] <dade`> is that normal ?
[08:58] <hondje> I like this fireFTP extension
[08:59] <hondje> hanasaki: personal preference?
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> Im so used to wget I dont bother with front end ftp stuff
[08:59] <dade`> i think gedit is important
[08:59] <Amaranth> dade`: In breezy it's normal.
[08:59] <hondje> I use totem-xine because I use xine
[08:59] <hanasaki> i took out totem and use gxine and xine.. totme seemed to crash alot and no audio
[08:59] <dade`> ok
[08:59] <dade`> Amaranth: i have only to wait ?
[09:00] <professor_chaos> dade`, yes, install libaspell15 the same way.
[09:00] <hondje> wget uploads things?
[09:00] <Amaranth> dade`: If you need things to work don't use breezy. gedit doesn't work right now anyway due to a gnome-vfs bug
[09:00] <DigitalFox> are home folders not going to be readable by default in Breezy?
[09:00] <PurpleMotion> and when you need to browse around, ncftp :)
[09:00] <DigitalFox> readable to all*
[09:00] <Amaranth> dade`: eog, abiword, bluefish, these are all unable to open files in breezy
[09:00] <DigitalFox> it's a really annoying feature to me as a sysadmin
[09:00] <hanasaki> horay is locked at gnome 2.10 right? no 2.12?
[09:00] <Amaranth> right
[09:00] <DigitalFox> hanasaki: yes
[09:00] <nelsongs> is there any word on hp notebooks with ubuntu?
[09:00] <dade`> noo
[09:00] <dionysus> hanasaki, ive got totem-gstreamer, mplayer and noatun on my machine, and with my collection of video files i have some that work in some players and not the others...configuration issues no doubt that i should really stop being lazy about and try to track down and fix, but as it stands now i just keep switching players as need be
[09:00] <PurpleMotion> {jay@psilocybin (~)}:$ ls -la /home/mousie
[09:00] <PurpleMotion> ls: /home/mousie: Permission denied
[09:01] <dade`> works works
[09:01] <PurpleMotion> thats default behavior
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> nelsongs: they dont actually have Ubuntu on them they just have an optional cd
[09:01] <hanasaki> someone good w/ postfix? i need a hand. i cant get maildir to work
[09:01] <pmai> "ques -ce tu veux?" <-- what meant?
[09:01] <blakamin> nelsongs: what HP?
[09:01] <Amaranth> dade`: What?
[09:01] <professor_chaos> nelsongs,  I use ubuntu on a hp notebook
[09:01] <dade`> i use breezy cause i need bleeding edge packages
[09:01] <dade`> now gedit works
[09:02] <Amaranth> dade`: Well, when you're on the bleeding edge you do get cut.
[09:02] <Amaranth> dade`: And I doubt you _need_ the bleeding edge packages.
[09:02] <dade`> yes, i thought less :P
[09:02] <DigitalFox> if you need bleeding edge packages
[09:02] <DigitalFox> build from source
[09:02] <blakamin> nelsongs: I've had allsorts of linux on a ze4520ap pavillion... runs sweet
[09:02] <dade`> i don't dubt
[09:02] <dade`> :D
[09:02] <dionysus> how stable is breezy right now btw? and is it pretty much directly ubuntu's equivalent of sid, or are there other restrictions that keep it more stable?
[09:02] <dionysus> haven't used ubuntu much, as you guys can probably tell :)
[09:03] <crimsun> Breezy sees far more churn than Sid.
[09:03] <dionysus> ah k cool ty
[09:03] <Amaranth> dionysus: gedit, eog, abiword, bluefish, and a bunch of other apps can't even open files right now
[09:03] <Amaranth> dionysus: And this is if you even manage to get X working.
[09:03] <professor_chaos> sees far more churn?????
[09:03] <dionysus> heh
[09:03] <hondje> lol
[09:03] <Amaranth> professor_chaos: Yes.
[09:03] <Keegan> once I download the eclipse .bin file, how do I install it?
[09:03] <dade`> what means that they can't open files ?
[09:03] <dade`> i'm opening files
[09:03] <dade`> with gedit
[09:03] <dade`> right now
[09:03] <Keegan> and how do I install things from a .tar.gz?
[09:03] <Amaranth> dade`: You try to click the 'open' button and it crashes.
[09:04] <dade`> aaaa
[09:04] <professor_chaos> Amaranth, what does that mean???
[09:04] <dade`> yes, i saw that
[09:04] <hondje> Keegan: you sure you want to?
[09:04] <dade`> i just open in an other way :D
[09:04] <hondje> Odds are synaptic can install it for you
[09:04] <Keegan> hondje: wat other way is there?
[09:04] <hondje> what are you trying to install?
[09:04] <Amaranth> professor_chaos: breezy switched to gcc 4 first and we're moving to X11R7 (Xorg 7.0) before anyone else
[09:04] <Keegan> I am trying to install JRE (.tar.gz) & eclipse (.bin)
[09:05] <professor_chaos> Keegan, tar -xvzf *.tar.gz, then ./configure     make     make install
[09:05] <dionysus> synaptic doesn't do eclipse with multi/uni added...there may be an apt/deb source for it but if so i havent' found it
[09:05] <hondje> R7 is going to kick ass
[09:05] <Amaranth> hondje: meh
[09:05] <dionysus> well the .tar.gz anyhow
[09:05] <Amaranth> hondje: that's the only thing is has over 6.8 that is going to make much of a difference
[09:06] <Keegan> professor_chaos: I type this in the root terminal?
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> professor_chaos: Im suprised there isnt something like kconfigure for newbies on ubuntu so they can build source packages
[09:06] <dionysus> easy enough to set up, just untar it, you don't have to build from source as it is all in java anyhow
[09:06] <Amaranth> hondje: unless all the drivers get full exa support and it stabilizes
[09:06] <hondje> Amaranth: for now...now that Xorg is rocking I have hope. Dawes took forever
[09:06] <dionysus> Keegan, you can get java installed through apt, i found that less painful (i went off the instructions on ubuntuguide.org)
[09:07] <professor_chaos> Keegan, either root terminal or I recommend just plain old terminal
[09:07] <dionysus> its in multiverse or universe or something
[09:07] <professor_chaos> Linux_Galore, I agree
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> I do lie....there is a easy source building app for newbies -> http://freshmeat.net/projects/gconfigure/
[09:07] <hondje> um, java comes from java.com in a binary, doesn't it?
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> and it gtk based
[09:07] <Amaranth> dionysus: It's not in Ubuntu and anyone giving you a .deb or repository for it is breaking the law
[09:07] <hondje> I haven't installed it in a good month, I forget
[09:08] <Keegan> dionysus: do u have that link handy?
[09:08] <dionysus> Amaranth, sun aren't big fans of anyone else distributing java? what about blackdown/sable/gcj etc, or do they not count?
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> adds gconfigure to the "must have on DVD version of ubuntu" request list
[09:09] <Amaranth> dionysus: blackdown is allowed, those others are free reimplementations
[09:09] <hondje> dionysus: that's not java's vm
[09:09] <hondje> er, sun's java vm
[09:09] <hondje> ewe vm is nice, for anyone wanting to play with java on a pda
[09:09] <hondje> fwiw
[09:10] <dionysus> ah ok
[09:10] <Amaranth> gcj is nice for people who care about speed and memory usage :)
[09:10] <hondje> +Freedom
[09:10] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: is gconfigure in main?
[09:11] <Amaranth> ack, monodevelop just crashed and i lost an hour of work
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: not that I can see
[09:11] <hondje> :(
[09:12] <professor_chaos> Amaranth, me neither
[09:12] <Amaranth> something seems to be working against me working on smeg 0.8 :P
[09:12] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: the DVD only ships things in main
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: need to add it to main then
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> gconfigure looks very nice
[09:13] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: Need to prove it's 1) secure 2) stable 3) useful
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: well kconfigure works fine and thats about three years old
[09:14] <valerie_1138> hi all
[09:14] <professor_chaos> valerie_1138, hey
[09:14] <Amaranth> !info kconfigure
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: its small its only 12k
[09:14] <Amaranth> not there either
[09:14] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: You need to get it into universe before you can even talk about main
[09:14] <atok> Question: Where can i get some small mp3 player ?
[09:15] <Amaranth> atok: xmms
[09:15] <magneto> midgets
[09:15] <hondje> beep-media-player
[09:15] <magneto> amarok is kinda small for an.................
[09:15] <magneto> operating system
[09:16] <dionysus> lol
[09:16] <atok> thx
[09:16] <magneto> lmao
[09:17] <magneto> me too emacarok would be kewl
[09:17] <hondje> I bet it'd become aware and start composing songs
[09:18] <magneto> That is how the movie terminator starts
[09:18] <hondje> with emacs?
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: just installed it...it comes with a nautilus plugin so you can compile via the file manager
[09:19] <magneto> then it starts to create pornographic music videos and spreads across the internet via porn sites
[09:19] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: That'll never get into main.
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> lol
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: well there are two parts to it ..there is gconfigure  and gconfigure-nautilus  the latter is optional
[09:20] <magneto> skynet was an mp3 player hondje
[09:20] <hondje> I'd believe it
[09:20] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: The nautilus plugin isn't why it'll never get into main.
[09:20] <hondje> probably ripped dvds too
[09:20] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: Having something in main that makes it even easier to destroy your system is a bad idea.
[09:20] <magneto> shhhhh that's illegal
[09:20] <hondje> I can talk quantum mechanics all day, but can't figure out how to make dvd::rip work :(
[09:20] <hondje> Too many buttons
[09:21] <magneto> lmao want to know a secret?
[09:21] <transgress> i do
[09:21] <transgress> i do
[09:21] <transgress> i do
[09:21] <Amaranth> *cough*
[09:21] <transgress>  and so does joe
[09:21] <PurpleMotion> Linux_Galore:  remember when I was talking about the only thing i didnt like about the ubuntu community? they think eveything that we consider a right of passage in linux is a bad idea
[09:21] <magneto> http://f0rked.com/core/simplerip
[09:22] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: We try to make sure end users don't have an easy way to break their computers.
[09:22] <hondje> Why does someone need to pass a rite of passage to gain their freedom?
[09:22] <hondje> Freedom is a right
[09:22] <magneto> i h8 dvdrip
[09:22] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: and wtf is a 'rite of passage' in linux?
[09:22] <transgress> Amaranth: when you move beyond windoze jokes
[09:22] <professor_chaos> discipline
[09:22] <gorilla_> hondje, not really freedom is a "right" that was fought for in the past.
[09:22] <magneto> a rite of passage in linux is compiling a kernel the ubuntu way lmao
[09:22] <Linux_Galore> lol Ive always been against the "rite of passage"
[09:22] <Amaranth> transgress: Most of the community will never get to that stage.
[09:23] <PurpleMotion> Amaranth:  I just think that you don't give people enough credit.. if someone is switching to linux, they already know they're going to have to learn a few things.. might as well help them learn a little basic computer usage skills..*shrug*
[09:23] <Linux_Galore> <-- is a big fan of "it just works"
[09:23] <deFrysk> gorilla_, and in the present
[09:23] <dionysus> magneto, heh haven't tried that yet....the ubuntu way != the debian way?
[09:23] <PurpleMotion> recompiling and installing a kernel for the first time is a rite of passage
[09:23] <grover> dude I've been using linux for a very long time and I still can't figure out how to build a kernel on ubuntu
[09:23] <magneto> i prefer adult circumcision to ubuntu/debian kerneling
[09:23] <doroto> sb help me with my trouble
[09:23] <gorilla_> deFrysk, granted :-)
[09:23] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: If you want to compile something either you're doing something wrong or Ubuntu has failed you.
[09:23] <doroto> i am devastated
[09:23] <Amaranth> err, not want
[09:23] <Amaranth> if you have to
[09:24] <Linux_Galore> there is a script you can get that hand hold you through the kernel build process
[09:24] <deFrysk> the ubuntu way is the debian YaY!!
[09:24] <magneto> ive done it
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> see, that's wrong
[09:24] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: And why should people have to learn how to compile and configure things just because they're using linux?
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> ubuntu hasnt failed me
[09:24] <magneto> but i dont like it
[09:24] <hondje> Freedom, baby
[09:24] <DigitalFox> hondje: I want to make a wallpaper of that
[09:24] <DigitalFox> GNU/Hippy
[09:24] <magneto> freedom to waste time
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> i just wanted that particular program compiled from source to make it a little sturdier, a little faster
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> *shrug*
[09:24] <DigitalFox> it just looks so nice
[09:24] <hondje> DigitalFox: hehe
[09:25] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: You should use gentoo.
[09:25] <hondje> :)
[09:25] <DigitalFox> compiling from source doesn't make things sturdier or faster.
[09:25] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: You can recompile the entire system from scratch and you'll get at most a 3% speed increase.
[09:25] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: Get the flags wrong and you'll actually slow things down.
[09:25] <magneto> gentoo devs infiltrated ubuntu and made them kernels the debian way
[09:25] <hondje> *in theory, YMMV
[09:25] <deFrysk> DigitalFox, it sure makes things look more interesting
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> <-- tried gentoo , 2 weeks later wonder why the heck he bothered
[09:25] <magneto> been there done that amaranth
[09:25] <DigitalFox> deFrysk: huh
[09:25] <DigitalFox> deFrysk: how?
[09:25] <DigitalFox> my computer shouldn't be "interesting"
[09:25] <DigitalFox> it should work
[09:25] <magneto> i was a die HARD gentoo user for 2 years
[09:26] <deFrysk> DigitalFox, as in see how smart i am
[09:26] <Amaranth> I'm not a die hard anything.
[09:26] <magneto> until ubuntu made me realize i was an idiot
[09:26] <hondje> gentoo-hardened kicks ass
[09:26] <DigitalFox> deFrysk: huh?
[09:26] <deFrysk> gentoo is fun untill you get it
[09:26] <hl11> hi all
[09:26] <Amaranth> I use Windows to play games, GNOME because it's easier, and Ubuntu because it does the hard stuff for me.
[09:26] <magneto> damn amaranth you just want to die easy?
[09:26] <deFrysk> DigitalFox, nm
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> man if they have gnome 2.12 in 6.04 Ubuntu is going to kick ass I love it....right up there with KDE 3.5
[09:26] <DigitalFox> gentoo is fun until you actually need to do something and you haven't been keeping up with things :)
[09:26] <hondje> I use linux because I learned the value of freedom the hard way
[09:27] <DigitalFox> hondje: how?
[09:27] <hondje> a couple years in prison
[09:27] <Linux_Galore> <-- cvs junkie
[09:27] <Amaranth> If Windows was better at the things I like I'd switch back. If KDE was simpler than GNOME I'd jump, if I found something better than Ubuntu I'd be gone.
[09:27] <magneto> lmao
[09:27] <DigitalFox> hondje: for what, if I may ask?
[09:27] <hondje> distribution/manufacture
[09:27] <f_newton> I use linux because it does what I need it to without having to pay a fee to microsoft every time I turn around
[09:27] <highvoltage> Amaranth: hear hear! we use ubuntu because it's best!
[09:27] <DigitalFox> ah.
[09:27] <Amaranth> Linux_Galore: GNOME 2.12 is in 5.10
[09:27] <magneto> if KDE wasn't like a gay swedish windowsXp id use it
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> Amaranth:  true... i dunno, i just think that discouraging perfectly safe (if you follow directions) practices because they could break something is something of an insult to your user base... *shrug* ymmv, but I've had this 'we know whats best for you' vibe from the project  since i started using it.. but its the best dist ive used to date, and the help here IS first class
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: cool
[09:28] <hondje> did 2.5 total, and I finish my 5 on parole on Nov 22nd...now I study physics/math and raise a wonderful daughter :)
[09:28] <magneto> no offense to gay people
[09:28] <deFrysk> 2.14 wil be in 06.04
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> Amaranth: I built it myself with a script from the gnome home page
[09:28] <f_newton> Amaranth, that pretty much says it all
[09:28] <zaguar> When will gnome 3.0 be out?
[09:28] <Amaranth> zaguar: never
[09:28] <f_newton> lol
[09:28] <highvoltage> magneto: and the swedish? do you have something against them?
[09:28] <zaguar> have they got a release scedule
[09:28] <cledusddp> okay one more question here.. How do I get java support for firefox?
[09:28] <hondje> When e17 comes out
[09:28] <deFrysk> !java
[09:28] <ubotu> methinks java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:28] <Amaranth> zaguar: If they have a 3.0 it'll just be what they have now but with a new number
[09:29] <hondje> No big change like 1->2?
[09:29] <zaguar> Nah
[09:29] <Amaranth> nope
[09:29] <Linux_Galore> yeah KDE 4 is about to go into action
[09:29] <zaguar> i disagree
[09:29] <atok> Question: How to reset soundcard ?
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> kde is anything you want it to be.. it's by FAR the most feature rich desktop you can get, and is still easy for beginners and ultra-configurable for the expert.. not only are you a homephobe, you have _no_idea_ what you're talking about..
[09:29] <zaguar> have you seen the mockups/previews?
[09:29] <cledusddp> don't have multiverse so guess that has to happen first
[09:29] <Amaranth> zaguar: The GNOME developers generally agree with me.
[09:29] <wolverian> Amaranth, huh? gnome3 is slated to be a drastic redesign (if they ever get the development running)
[09:29] <hondje> hehe, homephobe
[09:29] <Amaranth> zaguar: Those aren't made by the people writing the code.
[09:29] <zaguar> I say one
[09:30] <wolverian> Amaranth, see project topaz
[09:30] <atok> Question: How to reset soundcard ?
[09:30] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, kde tries to be everything thats why its not anything  Iwant
[09:30] <zaguar> Actually, it was
[09:30] <zaguar> IIRC
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  I love kde dude
[09:30] <Amaranth> wolverian: Nope, that's all crack that is basically never going to happen.
[09:30] <f_newton> its glitchy like a drunken psycho off his meds
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> it's the desktop i always wanted
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> I gave a Knoppix 3.9 CD to a buddy of mine a few days ago he rang me and said "wow" why am I still suing windows
[09:30] <deFrysk> f_newton, good statement :)
[09:30] <zaguar> suing?
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> using*
[09:30] <zaguar> LOL
[09:30] <wolverian> Amaranth, hmm. I've gotten the impression that jeff waugh really wants it to happen, in some form.
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> same really lol
[09:30] <Amaranth> We've seen the error of our ways and don't want to throw away a solid base.
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> Linux_Galore:  3.9 blows.. i rolled back to 3.7 for my rescue cd's.. i hated 3.9
[09:30] <doroto> who can help me, a new user
[09:30] <hondje> KDE is cluttered, I don't like it, but it has a ton going for it
[09:30] <zaguar> I use 3.8
[09:30] <Amaranth> wolverian: Jeff Waugh himself has said he doesn't want 3.0 to break everything.
[09:30] <zaguar> KDE is just to ugly
[09:30] <hondje> kio slaves, ease of development, awesome libs, etc
[09:30] <zaguar> I dunno why
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> PurpleMotion: 3.9 and 3.8 (my default) works fine for me
[09:30] <deFrysk> the only stable kde is a screenshot of kde
[09:30] <zaguar>  it just is
[09:30] <Amaranth> wolverian: Watch his GUADEC 6 keynote
[09:30] <f_newton> doroto, whats the problem?
[09:31] <doroto> come on, i am sweating
[09:31] <uka`> siapa yg orang indonesia
[09:31] <uka`> siapa yg orang indonesia
[09:31] <uka`> siapa yg orang indonesia
[09:31] <wolverian> Amaranth, I'm talking about interface, nothing more. yes, I'm basing my opinion on that keynote. :)
[09:31] <zaguar> gnome is softer
[09:31] <uka`> pv me
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> yeah i dont like either of them.. frustration with 3.9 and your comments on LFS:1 on yahoo are what drove me to ubuntu
[09:31] <Elsidox> wolverian, what keynote?
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> I'll be back in a few..
[09:31] <Amaranth> wolverian: Most of the ideas presented are crack though.
[09:31] <Madpilot> doroto: go ahead - ignore the mob...
[09:31] <f_newton> doroto, speak in channel please
[09:31] <doroto> ok
[09:31] <f_newton> whats your problem?
[09:31] <doroto> i install this linux last night
[09:32] <wolverian> Amaranth, hmm. which ones?
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> pfft argueing about kde v gnome is like arguing over how to view the grass on the ground
[09:32] <Amaranth> wolverian: So why would we dump the setup we have now for a brittle layer over a complex system?
[09:32] <doroto> i cannot each install any media player on my pc
[09:32] <wolverian> Elsidox, the guadec2005 one, I think.
[09:32] <Amaranth> wolverian: Every UI idea for 'GNOME 3.0' is total crack.
[09:32] <wolverian> Amaranth, you disagree with the document centric worldview, then? :)
[09:32] <doroto> i download the realplayer just now
[09:32] <magneto> true Linux_Galore its a tired old old arguement
[09:32] <f_newton> doroto do you know about synaptic?
[09:32] <wolverian> Amaranth, or just the interfaces designed for it thus far?
[09:32] <PurpleMotion> yeah, its a to each his own thing.. i just personally love allt he different ways i can use kde
[09:32] <Amaranth> wolverian: A little of both.
[09:32] <doroto> sorry
[09:32] <f_newton> me too PurpleMotion
[09:32] <doroto> dont know very much
[09:32] <Elsidox> wolverian, any ideas on where I can download it?
[09:32] <f_newton> thats ok
[09:33] <deFrysk> I like the simple way of gnome
[09:33] <wolverian> Elsidox, I think fluendo had the feeds archived
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> to be honest I like both kde and gnome.....both have plus and minus sides for me
[09:33] <magneto> gnome rocks
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> lots of people do, deFrysk
[09:33] <hondje> deFrysk: Me too, very zen
[09:33] <doroto> it is so different from windows
[09:33] <Madpilot> !repos
[09:33] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:33] <Madpilot> !synaptic
[09:33] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:33] <Elsidox> wolverian, ok cool thanks
[09:33] <Amaranth> Guys, do not start the GNOME v KDE flamewar up again.
[09:33] <magneto> kde reminds me of bill gates
[09:33] <wolverian> Amaranth, right. well, if people want to do it badly enough, it'll happen.
[09:33] <Amaranth> wolverian: It'll have to be a fork.
[09:33] <deFrysk> computing , the zen way = gnome indeed :D
[09:33] <Madpilot> doroto: see those two links above that ubotu posted - that's where you need to start
[09:33] <wolverian> Amaranth, yes.
[09:33] <hondje> Forks are beautiful :-)
[09:33] <wolverian> Amaranth, I'm just interested in new interface design. I don't consider gnome2 broken.
[09:33] <doroto> i destroy all my data in windows and now i cannot use this linux either
[09:34] <Madpilot> Amaranth: could you take the Gnome-vs-KDE stuff to offtopic?
[09:34] <f_newton> magneto this is not a flame channel for kde
[09:34] <deFrysk> forks are nice but u have to know how to use the knife :)
[09:34] <hondje> lol
[09:34] <Amaranth> wolverian: And it'll still throw away a good portion of what we have now.
[09:34] <doroto> ok let me see
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> actually rather than say kde is better or worse than gnome or vice versa a more constructive view would be ..I would like kde or gnome to have "this" feature"
[09:34] <Amaranth> Madpilot: You mean forcefully move them?
[09:34] <Madpilot> doroto: start here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:34] <f_newton> doroto explore your drop down menus from the task bar
[09:34] <magneto> f_newton calm down im just jokin i dont care about KDE whatever works for you go for it
[09:34] <starseed> is there a good way to add more internet radio stations to Rhythmbox ?
[09:34] <wolverian> Amaranth, that might be necessary, yes. but if the interface can be improved enough to make it worthwhile.. I don't see a problem. well, besides all the work that has to be done.
[09:35] <f_newton> I use gnome magneto and I am not exited
[09:35] <Madpilot> Amaranth: whatever - it's just hard to keep up with the volume right now, and gnome-vs-kde is offtopic...
[09:35] <doroto> thank u guys
[09:35] <magneto> well maybe you should eat more fiber
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> Ive been using streamtuned for streaming net radio stations
[09:35] <wolverian> anyway, time to reboot breezy and see if my keyboard actually works again :)
[09:35] <f_newton> doroto are you getting acceptable help?
[09:35] <doroto> let me see whehter it works
[09:35] <Amaranth> If you want to talk about KDE join #kubuntu, if you want to talk about GNOME vs KDE join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> very easy to use
[09:36] <doroto> sure
[09:36] <f_newton> doroto learn how to open a terminal window and use apt-get install (application)
[09:36] <doroto> but u don't know how little i know abt the linux
[09:36] <Amaranth> f_newton: If he has to open up a terminal we've failed. :/
[09:36] <doroto> hehe
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> I was wondering if there will ever be a Ubuntu-Embedded project
[09:36] <f_newton> Amaranth, failed in what way?
[09:37] <hondje> In liberating him
[09:37] <Linux_Galore> Gentoo has one
[09:37] <Amaranth> f_newton: Failed to make a distro regular people can use.
[09:37] <f_newton> he needs to learn to use command line from the beginning
[09:37] <hondje> Linux_Galore: buntu
[09:37] <f_newton> its not hard and I am a regular person?      what you think I got 3 arms or something?
[09:37] <highvoltage> f_newton: why!?
[09:37] <Madpilot> f_newton: not instantly, though. Synaptic really is easier...
[09:38] <magneto> they want it "user friendly"
[09:38] <f_newton> yes but he is going to have to search where in apt-get its just apt-get install blah blah
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> <-- has a Zaurus 6000 and wants to try ubuntu on it
[09:38] <Madpilot> magneto: "Linux For Human Beings", right?
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> its a PDA made by sharp that runs Linux, for those not initiated
[09:39] <doroto> cannot open those webs
[09:39] <doroto> why>
[09:39] <f_newton> but doroto then choose system/administration/synaptic and find totem-zine or something like that
[09:39] <doroto> i canot open some others
[09:39] <f_newton> from the drop down menu
[09:39] <magneto> How many nonhumans do you know that use Linux Madpilot?
[09:39] <Madpilot> magneto: not sure - are you human? ;)
[09:39] <f_newton> I know a couple that are human only just
[09:39] <highvoltage> a dog?
[09:39] <hondje> Yep! :)
[09:40] <magneto> I like that Ubuntu is for all flavors of user - from n00b to experienced
[09:40] <f_newton> if you put one hundred monkeys in front of one hundred keyboards you've got a windows users group
[09:40] <magneto> Madpilot: nope im 100% simian
[09:40] <Madpilot> magneto: "...for human being" vs "for power users"
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> lol
[09:40] <magneto> lmao
[09:40] <f_newton> thus the term  windows monkey
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> f_newton: thought that was the windows help line
[09:41] <Madpilot> doroto: those are just ordinary web links, they should work
[09:41] <f_newton> yeah well ok
[09:41] <f_newton> someone point doroto to the help files at the top of his taskbar... the life ring thingy
[09:42] <magneto> Madpilot: many power users love ubuntu
[09:42] <doroto> so i find the synaptic package manager
[09:42] <doroto> should i start there>'
[09:42] <Madpilot> magneto: sure, but the theory is that you don't *have* to be a power user to run Ubuntu
[09:42] <cledusddp> okay got the multiverse up.. search for the needed pack in synaptic and got nothing back.. Any ideas?
[09:43] <magneto> doroto is someone helping you?
[09:43] <Madpilot> doroto: yes, open Synaptic. when it asks for your password, type your user password
[09:43] <doroto> yes just now
[09:43] <magneto> Madpilot: I know that and I agree :)
[09:43] <Linux_Galore> Vista  = Vicious installing spaming trojon addaware OS
[09:43] <doroto> yes i have the password
[09:43] <cledusddp> <-trying to get Java support for Firefox :)
[09:43] <f_newton> doroto, you are going to have to take some initiative and learn some basic functionality... I strongly suggest you start with the help section and get a better understanding of the environment you are now using
[09:44] <doroto> all right  f_newton
[09:44] <doroto> i just wanna install a media player then i can learnt the whole staff while listening to muxtc
[09:44] <Madpilot> doroto: Ubuntu's help is in the System menu - Help - at the top of the screen
[09:44] <magneto> Vista - Virus Infection System - Template Alpha
[09:44] <cledusddp> Have done that.. and everything good so far.. But a search for the needed pack comes up empty
[09:44] <doroto> i see
[09:44] <cledusddp> so is that pack no longer avail?
[09:45] <Burgundavia> mabu, please turn that off
[09:45] <f_newton> lol doroto you need xmms and xmms-mp3
[09:45] <deFrysk> Virus Insertion System
[09:45] <doroto> what is it ?  lol  my god
[09:45] <Madpilot> cledusddp: you need repos - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:45] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia
[09:45] <doroto> i thought i need to install the realplayer and then it will be ok
[09:46] <deFrysk> !mp3
[09:46] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:46] <Madpilot> doroto: not quite
[09:46] <cledusddp> done that Madpilot
[09:46] <doroto> so there is a lot to be done
[09:46] <doroto> leave this, friends
[09:46] <cledusddp> searching now in Synaptic for sun-j2re1.5
[09:46] <cledusddp> and get nothing
[09:46] <deFrysk> !java
[09:46] <ubotu> I heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:46] <doroto> tell me another question
[09:46] <Madpilot> cledusddp: just a sec
[09:46] <f_newton> doroto the thing is you are needing step by step instructions and that usually means that until you get a very basic understanding of what you want and how to go about finding out how to get there you are never going to succeed
[09:46] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, salut mon frere
[09:46] <Razor-X`> wow, this trip wasn't too bad after all ;)
[09:46] <cledusddp> no worries mad
[09:47] <doroto> ok, i c
[09:47] <magneto> cledusddp: add the backports
[09:47] <doroto> one more thing guys
[09:47] <cledusddp> backports?
[09:47] <magneto> cledusddp: to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <doroto> last night , while installing this linux, i partetion mhy disks
[09:47] <Madpilot> magneto: thanks, I always forget the JRE isn't in the regular repos
[09:47] <f_newton> you are going to have to add repo functionality to your synaptic doroto  and there is a read me that tells you how ... does your firefox web browser work?
[09:47] <magneto> they have a good java package
[09:48] <Madpilot> !backports
[09:48] <ubotu> hmm... backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:48] <doroto> when i lock out, to start my widows, it failed
[09:48] <magneto> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[09:48] <cledusddp> thx guys, will give it a read
[09:48] <Razor-X`> doroto: you're sure Windows is available?
[09:48] <doroto> so, does it mean that all the date i have stored in windows, has been destroyed?
[09:48] <Razor-X`> !ubuntuguide
[09:48] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:48] <f_newton> thanks Razor-X beat me to it
[09:48] <magneto> cledusddp: read the sources section and you will not read much more
[09:49] <deFrysk> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ is not to be advised yes
[09:49] <f_newton> doroto dont know yet
[09:49] <cledusddp> stupid question.. extract it too?
[09:49] <doroto> it works
[09:49] <f_newton> once you learn a bit about what you are doing we can find out
[09:49] <doroto> the firefox
[09:49] <doroto> works
[09:49] <Madpilot> cledusddp: extract what?
[09:49] <cledusddp> what directory? or am I getting way lame with the questions here?
[09:49] <Razor-X`> doroto: what's the output of ``fdisk -l'' ?
[09:49] <traveller> is there a howto that says how to package a software into deb?
[09:50] <f_newton> Razor-X, that is waaaaaaaay above doroto 's head
[09:50] <cledusddp> ../ubuntu/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386
[09:50] <magneto> cledusddp: no not lame- just read that guide link and follow the instructions to update your sources
[09:50] <Razor-X`> f_newton: not if he puts it on pastebin for us to read ;)
[09:50] <atok> I have a problem, i hear only tam-tams - all the time?
[09:50] <doroto> haha
[09:50] <doroto> yes  well above my head
[09:50] <Razor-X`> doroto: pasted the output of ``fdisk -l'' on pastebin
[09:50] <f_newton> ok Razor-X you'll see
[09:50] <magneto> cledusddp: that will allow apt-get and synaptic to find a good java package for u
[09:50] <Razor-X`> atok: tam-tam?
[09:50] <magneto> and install it for u
[09:50] <doroto> thank you guys, anyway, i shall begin with the Help
[09:50] <atok> no others sounds
[09:51] <atok> only one looped
[09:51] <cledusddp> sweet, so on the right track.. just extract it to the the desktop?
[09:51] <Razor-X`> what's a tam-tam? *wonders*
[09:51] <magneto> cledusddp: nah thats a website
[09:51] <f_newton> oh crap its almost three am! what am I still doing up?
[09:51] <magneto> just read it
[09:51] <cledusddp> okay
[09:51] <magneto> cledusddp: you just need to add two lines to one texxt file
[09:51] <atok> i don't know this world in eng. --
[09:51] <doroto> you guys are so warm, i thought i wanted uninstall linux, but now i cahnge my mind
[09:52] <Madpilot> doroto: glad we're helping
[09:52] <deFrysk> man its hot here ;p
[09:52] <magneto> i can tell you how right now if you want but the guide will provide more info
[09:52] <jtgameover> does anyone know how to see the class and/or resource string of a window?
[09:52] <Razor-X`> magneto: like ubotu said above, the guide has become deprecated
[09:52] <cledusddp> think I got the wrong link.. Just pop that to me.. I can read it
[09:52] <doroto> i need your further help later
[09:52] <atok> I have problems with sound divice
[09:53] <atok> where can i find some help
[09:53] <Xyc0> Here
[09:53] <Razor-X`> atok: have you tried to ``killall esd'' beforehand?
[09:53] <magneto> Razor-X: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories is fine for what he needs
[09:53] <atok> :)
[09:53] <Razor-X`> Xyc0: where do you live? I want free wireless
[09:53] <Razor-X`> ;)
[09:53] <deFrysk> magneto, please dont refer to ubuntuguide.org
[09:53] <Xyc0> You have to earn it
[09:54] <Xyc0> My wireless sux anyways
[09:54] <cledusddp> magneto.. sorry to bug.. but can I have that link real quick from ya?
[09:54] <Razor-X`> Xyc0: i'll break into your WAP, but I still want it
[09:54] <Xyc0> It wont broadcast across my house, let alone next door
[09:54] <magneto> cledusddp: its the one I just posted - or add this to the bottom of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <magneto> cledusddp: ## Backports
[09:55] <magneto> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:55] <magneto> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:55] <Razor-X`> Xyc0: that's crappy :(
[09:55] <Xyc0> Linksys for you
[09:55] <deFrysk> magneto, those repos are not supported by ubuntu
[09:55] <Xyc0> anyone know anything about uncaping modems?
[09:55] <Razor-X`> I gave my neighbors free wireless for a while (monitored, of course), but I just got sick of it, after a while
[09:55] <magneto> then you show him how to add JAVA to firefox
[09:55] <f_newton> Xyc0, that trick really doesnt apply any more
[09:55] <Razor-X`> magneto: those are not the current backports mirrors
[09:56] <deFrysk> !java
[09:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:56] <Razor-X`> !backports
[09:56] <ubotu> I guess backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:56] <deFrysk> there magneto
[09:56] <Razor-X`> deFrysk: ;)
[09:56] <Madpilot> magneto & cledusddp: you want this one: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:56] <deFrysk> ^ Razor-X
[09:56] <Xyc0> how so f_newton?
[09:57] <magneto> when did this happen?
[09:57] <magneto> the top of the page reads Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide
[09:57] <magneto> Revision: 4.17 (Last updated on 2nd August 2005)
[09:57] <Razor-X`> !ubuntuguide
[09:57] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:57] <f_newton> Xyc0, it is impracticle, dangerous, and illegal
[09:57] <Razor-X`> there's a good _reason_ for its deprecation
[09:58] <cledusddp>  thx
[09:58] <Xyc0> f_newton: It isn't against the law, it is against corporate policy.  There is a difference
[09:58] <atok> root@ubuntu:/home/atok # esd
[09:58] <atok> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[09:59] <ferdi> does anybody have any idea to make ubuntu support legacy soundcards without recompiling kernel??
[09:59] <atok> what can i do with this ?
[09:59] <Razor-X`> atok: something is using the sound card
[09:59] <Madpilot> atok: "killall esd" if you want to stop esd
[09:59] <Razor-X`> ferdi: try a different set of sound drivers (like OSS)
[09:59] <f_newton> Xyc0, I suggest you bring that up to a lawyer
[09:59] <atok> root@ubuntu:/home/atok # killall asd
[09:59] <atok> asd: no process killed
[09:59] <Razor-X`> atok: esd, not asd
[09:59] <ferdi> what about alsa??
[09:59] <atok> :)
[10:00] <Razor-X`> ferdi: Ubuntu includes ALSA
[10:00] <atok> root@ubuntu:/home/atok # killall esd
[10:00] <atok> esd: no process killed
[10:00] <magneto> so hold up- is ubuntuguide.org deprecated or is it just not "ubuntu"
[10:00] <Razor-X`> magneto: it's deprecated
[10:00] <ferdi> so do i need to install alsaconf to configure the drivers??
[10:00] <Razor-X`> the Ubuntu wiki is not official ``ubuntu'' either
[10:00] <ferdi> is there any other way??
[10:01] <Razor-X`> ferdi: do you know if ALSA supports the drivers?
[10:01] <ferdi> does.....my card is opl3sa2
[10:01] <magneto> my bad I presumed to know the meaning of deprecated lol
[10:01] <Razor-X`> ferdi: then, try alsaconf
[10:01] <magneto> lmao
[10:01] <Razor-X`> magneto: ;)
[10:01] <doroto> is it possible to install the linux OS togeth with Windows OS in one pc?
[10:01] <ferdi> fine ;)
[10:01] <nightswim> yes
[10:01] <Razor-X`> doroto: very possible
[10:01] <atok> I hear drums all the time. im feeling sick of it ! :/
[10:02] <doroto> thanks
[10:02] <Razor-X`> atok: temporarily mute your alsamixer
[10:02] <magneto> what about the mirror for backports you posted -
[10:02] <atok> Razor-X: it works
[10:03] <deFrysk> doroto, yes, first install windowls and then linux-os
[10:03] <Razor-X`> atok: there, no more drums ;)
[10:03] <atok> only silence :D
[10:03] <Razor-X`> atok: meh ;)
[10:03] <deFrysk> doroto, make sure u have a partition for linux to use
[10:03] <Razor-X`> any idea which application caused the inccessant drum beats?
[10:04] <magneto> Madpilot: whats the deal with the backport mirror-
[10:04] <Razor-X`> doroto: or leave some free space for the Ubuntu installer
[10:04] <atok> Xes coused drums :D
[10:04] <Madpilot> magneto: it's official now, AFAIK
[10:04] <Madpilot> !backports
[10:04] <Razor-X`> atok: is it still running?
[10:04] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:04] <tha_gamemaster> there's no ubuntu for sparc huh? ^_^
[10:04] <atok> when volume = 0, i have some rest :D
[10:04] <Razor-X`> tha_gamemaster: not yet, I don't think
[10:04] <doroto> does windows have to come first
[10:04] <doroto> ?
[10:05] <Razor-X`> doroto: not neccessarily, but it's much easier for it to
[10:05] <magneto> LMAO is it the same project - converted or is it a different project with different packages ubotu?
[10:05] <tha_gamemaster> Razor-X, ok, now it's just a matter of choosing gentoo or debian for my sparc-lunchbox... decisions decisions
[10:05] <doroto> my windows has been removed last night when i install this linux
[10:05] <Razor-X`> tha_gamemaster: you got me there
[10:05] <Razor-X`> Debian vs. Gentoo is a crossroads I doubt i'll ever be able to cross ;)
[10:05] <tha_gamemaster> Razor-X`, hehe thanks for answering my question though ^_^
[10:05] <doroto> how do i avoid the destroy windows while partetion my disk?
[10:06] <doroto> u know it requires partetion while installing linux
[10:06] <six2one> be careful with the part table
[10:06] <deFrysk> doroto, make sure you have a partition left to use for linux or leave space to use linux
[10:07] <doroto> how?
[10:07] <doroto> originally my disk has four: C D E F
[10:07] <deFrysk> doroto, ever installed windows ?
[10:07] <doroto> yes
[10:07] <Madpilot> gah, it's 1am. I'm off to sleep - see you all later
[10:07] <deFrysk> c= /dev/hda1
[10:07] <magneto> might Madpilot
[10:07] <deFrysk> d=/dev/hda2
[10:07] <magneto> night
[10:07] <deFrysk> if you have a ide disc that is
[10:07] <deFrysk> etc
[10:08] <doroto> if i have lost all my data under windows OS,  it is not a big thing that i can partetion my disk time over time
[10:08] <magneto> is there an official hoary-extras repo?
[10:08] <deFrysk> doroto, yust leave space for linux (unpartitionded and the linux installer wil ask u if it has to install lunux on empty space
[10:09] <starseed> ugh, really wish azureus wouldn't use 100megs of ram
[10:09] <deFrysk> doroto, and make sure it is at least 10 gigs or so
[10:09] <doroto> ok
[10:09] <deFrysk> azureus = java-app = resource-hog
[10:10] <magneto> yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk  azureus is the worst
[10:10] <magneto> screen + btlaunchmanycurses my friend
[10:11] <doroto> last night, when i partition, i choose the "erase the entire disk, 80gigs" sth like this
[10:11] <atok> Where can i find the list of soundcards working ubuntu ?
[10:12] <deFrysk> magneto, afaIk no hoary-extras repo
[10:12] <atok> *with ubuntu
[10:12] <doroto> so this means that all the original data i have stored has been erased forver?
[10:12] <doroto> no way to restore them?
[10:12] <Tomcat_> atok: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[10:12] <doroto> i have much private staff in windows
[10:12] <deFrysk> doroto, where did you install linux in
[10:13] <deFrysk> and did you install grub in mbr at the end of install ?
[10:13] <doroto> it told me #1 and #3
[10:14] <deFrysk> #1 = hda1 ?
[10:14] <doroto> what do you mean by that question?
[10:14] <doroto> hdd
[10:14] <ReleaseX> when i start tuxracer from a terminal the sound works fine, but when i use a menu icon i just made there is no sound, anyone know what i might be doing wrong
[10:14] <blakamin> lusers
[10:14] <blakamin> 8-D
[10:15] <doroto> forget it, i will try to find a way out
[10:15] <doroto> thank you all
[10:15] <deFrysk> doroto, windows is on hda1? prim master/c ?
[10:15] <doroto> yes
[10:15] <doroto> originally yes
[10:15] <deFrysk> then nothing is lost in windows
[10:15] <heien> Hi
[10:16] <doroto> really?
[10:16] <deFrysk> if linux is installed in hdd
[10:16] <deFrysk> its not no
[10:16] <bartekp> hi
[10:16] <f_newton> defrysk you running ubuntu now?
[10:16] <deFrysk> me ? yup
[10:16] <doroto> can i see the windows files in linux?
[10:16] <nightswim> yes
[10:16] <doroto> how?
[10:17] <deFrysk> !ntfs
[10:17] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[10:17] <heien> anyone here can tell me how to solder my headphones on a new jackstick?
[10:18] <heien> I have no idea where else to ask
[10:18] <deFrysk> heien, hardwarestore ?
[10:19] <heien> deFrysk, i have the parts, just how to put the wires together
[10:20] <jtgameover> is there a way to view the resource string of a window?
[10:20] <_4dz0> anyone recommend a decent java ide?
[10:21] <nightswim> eclipse?
[10:21] <f_newton> heien, tin the wires first and tin the joints,  use clips to hold the wire to the terminals and apply solder heat
[10:22] <f_newton> but headphones are cheap
[10:23] <evgenyserver> has anyone in here tried dc++ for ubuntu 5.04?
[10:23] <ferdi> how to compile mplayer??
[10:24] <deFrysk> ferdi, why compile ?
[10:24] <ferdi> yeah but many dependencies
[10:24] <f_newton> night
[10:24] <deFrysk> !mplayer
[10:24] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:25] <ferdi> somehow beats the shit out of me guys
[10:26] <deFrysk> ferdi, sudo apt-get install mplayer sould do it
[10:26] <ferdi> lets see;)
[10:27] <Razor-X`> I compiled my MPlayer, but I heard AAC is broken on some machines that use the binary
[10:29] <Razor-X`> and some codecs aren't included and such
[10:29] <kuku> how do i get sshd to work i noticed it doesnt come with stock ubuntu
[10:29] <kuku> apt-get install sshd didnt work either
[10:29] <BiSK-8> 'lo
[10:30] <BiSK-8> how do i put chans in ajoin aon xirc?
[10:30] <Razor-X`> kuku: search for OpenSSH
[10:30] <kuku> there is no ubuntu apt-get for openssh?
[10:30] <kuku> a .deb package
[10:30] <Razor-X`> kuku: there is, ``apt-cache search ssh'' ;)
[10:30] <ferdi> what's the command for gcc support??
[10:30] <Bubbling_Zombie> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27305.html <- try that kuku
[10:31] <Razor-X`> ferdi: ``sudo aptitude install build-essenstials''
[10:32] <asad2k5> Is it possible to setup 2 NIC cards to one ADSL connection i.e internet and will it increase band width
[10:32] <ferdi> thanks!!!
[10:32] <BiSK-8>  how can i put more than 1 channel in ajoin with?
[10:32] <BiSK-8> with xirc*
[10:33] <BiSK-8> sry, xchat
[10:34] <deFrysk> BiSK-8, /j #xchat
[10:34] <lurah> #channel,#channel2,#channel3
[10:34] <BiSK-8> ok
[10:34] <BiSK-8> thanks
[10:34] <highvoltage> hmmm. i'm dist-upgrading breezy and it seems to be in an infinate loop. upgrading all the packages over and over and over again. weird.
[10:36] <doroto> would you show me, what command shall i use in the terminal to install my downloaded realplayer?
[10:39] <redtech> night all
[10:39] <highvoltage> night redtech
[10:40] <render> I just ordered the ubuntu cd
[10:41] <render> how long will it delievered to China?
[10:43] <petti> alrighty.. time to test the new kernel... wish me luck :) ->
[10:47] <petti> hell, it worked :)
[10:48] <OculusAquilae> :-)
[10:48] <petti> I'm starting to like this thing
[10:49] <petti> especially after nearly pulling the rest of my hair off with fedora..
[10:49] <asad2k5> How to set up 2 network cards on one PC as DHCP
[10:51] <Pega> Hmm. I downloaded nethack with synpatic package manager. It SHOULD have come with also graphics (something to do with x11 I think) but every time I call for it in console it starts in the console with the basic ASCII graphics. Any suggestions how to start it normally?
[10:51] <petti> I thought ascii was normal for nethack..
[10:52] <Pega> petti, yeah, but some versions also have better graphics
[10:52] <petti> hm. dunno, never tried
[10:53] <petti> I mostly do Adom anyways, I've never missed graphics so far :)
[10:53] <Pega> :)
[10:54] <petti> I think that good ol' ascii is much better than grappy graphics anyways. Grahics can always be better and better, so you'll never be satisfied. Ascii is what it is
[10:54] <lurah> petti, im fan of ASCII :D
[10:54] <petti> actually I would like to see some 8-bit characters there ;)
[10:54] <lurah> =)
[10:55] <parabolize> render, no idea how long it takes to get to china. You could ask in #ubuntu-zh.
[10:55] <Pega> ASCII is nice, I admit, but I have tried it so many times. Would once like to try this thingie with normal graphics.
[10:55] <petti> I'm feeling upside down
[10:55] <cledusddp> hey all.. still trying to get java support with Firefox.. Think I'm missing something here
[10:56] <lurah> my thoughs about ASCII --> http://www.textworld.adaworld.com/articles/lurah1.html
[10:56] <lurah> :D
[10:56] <Pega> If I just knew how to change the friggin' controls here. Buttons for diffrent directions seem pretty random... :S
[10:57] <petti> I wonder if there is a nethack port for the playstation..
[10:58] <Pega> Well, install linux to PS2...
[10:58] <LinuxDolt> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check <-- wth?
[10:58] <petti> That would be an excellent reason to buy ps1 :)
[10:58] <cledusddp> and being that they are so cheap anyhow right?
[10:58] <Amaranth> Pega: nethack-gnome?
[10:58] <Amaranth> Pega: it's still all text based but it has a little GUI wrapper window
[10:59] <Pega> I installed Linux to my PS2. Tho it costs like hell to buy mouse, keyboard, hard drive, network stuff and linux cd in the mail for it.
[10:59] <cledusddp> not to be a pest. But I've installed the needed repos's. found the sun file and what not.. But still no dice.. any ideas guys?
[10:59] <Amaranth> !java
[10:59] <ubotu> I guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:59] <Pega> Amaranth, oh.
[10:59] <cledusddp> have bsd on my xbox.. what a slug
[11:00] <Amaranth> wtf, who screwed the java wiki page?
[11:00] <Amaranth> it used to explain how to make your own package
[11:00] <Amaranth> now it links to the illegal hoary-extras repo
[11:00] <Pega> :S
[11:00] <cledusddp> thought there was something screwy thre amaranth
[11:01] <GrannyTux> look up unofficial ubuntu faq they have a step by step for the java install for firefox
[11:01] <cledusddp> I've tried every freakin thing and then some I could think of
[11:01] <topyli> Amaranth: someone thought it would be smart to cut some corners it seems
[11:01] <Amaranth> topyli: and remove much needed info from the wiki that can't be recovered
[11:01] <topyli> yeah
[11:01] <Amaranth> and they made Java15 a redirect to Java :/
[11:02] <topyli> "you only need my information. everybody else is wrong"
[11:02] <cledusddp> looking for JSE2 correct?
[11:03] <topyli> cledusddp: if you need the SE then you get it. most people only need j2re
[11:03] <cledusddp> was just a WAG topyli.. Learing as I go
[11:03] <learn25> hi all ;-)
[11:04] <GrannyTux> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[11:04] <learn25> hello
[11:04] <Pega> 'lo learn25
[11:05] <topyli> cledusddp: that's the best way to learn :)
[11:05] <cledusddp> indeed.. still frustrated as all freakin get out.. lol
[11:05] <learn25> i have configured my posfix. I can send email to email addresses from yahoo and hotmail but it goes to their "Bulk" folder. Anybody can help?
[11:05] <magneto> cledusddp: that's the site i gave you the link to originally
[11:05] <magneto> lmao
[11:06] <cledusddp> root@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install sun-j2rel.5
[11:06] <cledusddp> Reading package lists... Done
[11:06] <cledusddp> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:06] <cledusddp> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[11:06] <cledusddp> must not be getting something here.. Thinkin it's my dumbass :)
[11:06] <Amaranth> cledusddp: You need to have hoary-extras in your sources.list to do that.
[11:07] <topyli> learn25: many ISP's won't accept mail from servers with dynamic IP's (for a good reason). are you sending the mail directly from your server?
[11:07] <cledusddp> ah crap.. forgot about that.. so vi sources.list?
[11:07] <GrannyTux> ya you need the backport
[11:07] <magneto> yup
[11:07] <cledusddp> got the backport
[11:07] <learn25> i'm sending email from my server directly and I have a static IP. My domain is cea.wvcst.edu.ph
[11:07] <magneto> did you put the hoary-extras line in their too?
[11:07] <GrannyTux> the faq has the step by step for that too
[11:08] <topyli> learn25: hmm.
[11:08] <Amaranth> GrannyTux: hoary-backports and hoary-extras are not the same thing.
[11:08] <cledusddp> did. but must have mucked it up somewhere.. the freakin file is empty.. damnit
[11:08] <topyli> learn25: ok, then it's not what i thought
[11:08] <GrannyTux> oop typo
[11:08] <magneto> cledusddp: did you add one line or two to sources.list?
[11:08] <learn25> ic
[11:08] <cledusddp> 2 but didn't save.. so have to go back and do it again...
[11:08] <GrannyTux> half aslepp lol
[11:08] <cledusddp> thems the breaks I guess.. lol
[11:09] <Amaranth> if /etc/apt/sources.list is empty you're in trouble
[11:09] <Amaranth> err, wrong path
[11:09] <Amaranth> it's 4am :P
[11:09] <cledusddp> yup.. aware of that
[11:09] <magneto> nah at least there's no damn chorus of deprecated this time
[11:09] <learn25> topyli: Do you have a mail server?
[11:09] <Amaranth> oh, right path
[11:09] <topyli> learn25: yes, but i use my ISPs server as a smarthost, i don't send mail directly
[11:10] <learn25> i see. I can send mail directly and it reaches its destination like yahoo or hotmail but goes to the "bulk" folder ;-)
[11:11] <learn25> and also I cannot receive replies ;-(
[11:11] <topyli> learn25: with all the spam zombies around, some ISPs are careful with mail from random servers. your domain doesn't sound like any old "random server" though
[11:12] <learn25> mailserver is more compilcated than webserver ;-)
[11:12] <topyli> learn25: depends on how complicated you want to setup your web server =)
[11:12] <deathllama> anyone up for helping me out with some fluxbox menu config?
[11:13] <learn25> i'm a newbie to linux. I have a lot of things to learn ;-)
[11:13] <learn25> ic
[11:13] <learn25> how long have u been using linux?
[11:13] <learn25> i used linux for almost 3 months now
[11:13] <cledusddp> running flux.. what's the issue death?
[11:14] <topyli> learn25: i have no idea. since RH 5.0, perhaps 1997 or so
[11:14] <deathllama> menu setup. i'm in black right now, but is there a preset menu file i can d/l?
[11:14] <deathllama> setting up the menu is being a pain, and i'm a noob.
[11:14] <learn25> u have  a lot of experience than me =)
[11:14] <cledusddp> under ubuntu?
[11:14] <deathllama> yeah.
[11:15] <deathllama> fluxconf hasn't helped me, and fluxbox -generate_menu also hasn't worked for me.
[11:15] <cledusddp> don't know that is diffrent.. apt-get install fluxbox should have done it all for ya.. did you do a right click to get your menu?
[11:15] <topyli> learn25: well, i don't exactly miss the early days ;-)
[11:15] <deathllama> yeah, all i get is xterm, restart and exit
[11:15] <topyli> learn25: you don't want to setup RH 5 for desktop usage believe me :)
[11:15] <cledusddp> hmm.. that is diffrent.. Mine went off without a hitch.
[11:16] <deathllama> i think i set up my menu correctly in /.fluxbox/menu
[11:16] <cledusddp> brb all, have to go back to gnome
[11:17] <deathllama> any idea of what is up with that cledus?
[11:17] <cledusddp> still tweaking fluxbox.. But don't know why it didn't generate the menu for ya.. did you look at the faq on thier site?
[11:17] <cledusddp> pretty good info
[11:18] <magneto> deathllama -  there's an app out there to create menus - some scripts too if you cant figure out the xml - i use openbox and they are pretty similar
[11:18] <cledusddp> naw.. don't know.. but the few issues I had. I fixed with a bit o readin
[11:18] <deathllama> yeah, it told me to edit the /.fluxbox/menu file i wrote one for it, but it still doesn't work.
[11:18] <cledusddp> hmm.. mabye try a reinstall?
[11:19] <cledusddp> The first time I tried to get flux it crapped out.. Everything installed but had a blank screem
[11:19] <cledusddp> sreen
[11:19] <deathllama> maybe, i used synaptic to install flux
[11:19] <cledusddp> do it from cli
[11:19] <deathllama> can i hit that right from xterm?
[11:20] <cledusddp> yup..
[11:20] <cledusddp> apt-get install fluxbox
[11:21] <deathllama> it says fluxbox is already newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 removed, and 0 not upgraded
[11:21] <cledusddp> hmmm
[11:23] <deathllama> yeah
[11:23] <deathllama> it's frustrating.
[11:23] <cledusddp> agreed.. but that is part of the fun of linux :)
[11:23] <cledusddp> makes ya think :)
[11:23] <adrien> salut
[11:24] <deathllama> this is true
[11:24] <cledusddp> still having issues with java.. but will get it figured out
[11:24] <RuffianSoldier> ok...... first firefox says it saved my pics somewhere... i just went to look at them and they arent there... then i go back to save them again, and it locks up when i click save picture - then i try again and it exits firefox
[11:24] <deathllama> i could download the debian source tar, and try maybe installing it off of there.
[11:24] <adrien> y a-til quelqu'un qui parle franais?
[11:25] <cledusddp> yeah, you could.. but sounds like the long way around
[11:26] <deathllama> i mean, it's not a horrible deal having to xterm everything, but it will in time get annoying.
[11:26] <deathllama> hold on i'm gonna switch to gnome
[11:27] <catolh> Anyone else having trouble with gDesklets?
[11:27] <adrienux> salut
[11:28] <Tomcat_> catolh: Don't install the gdesklets-data package. Or is it something else?
[11:28] <wh0rd> How's it going.
[11:28] <catolh> i havent installed it
[11:28] <Tomcat_> catolh: Okay, what's wrong? :>
[11:28] <adrienux> y-a-til quelqu'un qui parle franais?
[11:28] <catolh> Tomcat_, i installed only the gdesklets package. And when i start it, the window just pops up.. showing nothing, not even a menu.. then it just quits
[11:29] <deathllama> okay.
[11:29] <deathllama> help is needed with fluxbox.
[11:30] <lurah> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54804
[11:30] <adrienux> je n'ai pas de son avec ma carte tuner tv...help me please
[11:31] <deathllama> anyone interested in assisting me with menu's in fluxbox?
[11:32] <catolh> Tomcat_, what i first did was install both packages.. (gdesklets + gdesklets_data), but then i removed both, and installed only the gdesklets package.
[11:32] <Kev0r> reallife is not a device
[11:33] <Tomcat_> catolh: Good. So what's wrong? :)
[11:33] <catolh> It wont run.. :p
[11:33] <catolh> it only shows a window with no contents
[11:33] <catolh> then it quits
[11:33] <Tomcat_> Mh...
[11:34] <Tomcat_> Do a reinstall of gdesklets then, and remove ~/.gdesklets
[11:34] <simonb> mv /home/$user /dev/life  permision denied heh
[11:34] <catolh> Tomcat_, ok, ill try that
[11:34] <magneto> anyone using a download manager? gwget is ok but keeps dying on 95% 90% for something im trying to download and aria sucks
[11:35] <Pega> WTF? This friggin nethack is mean! "A gush of water hits your left arm!  Your battle-axe rusts!" :((((
[11:35] <Tomcat_> Pega: That's life :D
[11:35] <catolh> Tomcat_, thanks.. it worked :)
[11:36] <topyli> Pega: you need to find another weapon pretty soon
[11:36] <Pega> yeah... I tried to pass that thing again thinking "now my character can watch out for that thing" but no... my b axe rusted even further
[11:37] <topyli> Pega: let's hope it's not cursed
[11:37] <plastic> i have just got one game and it's looks like blahblahblah.run how to install it? i tryed ./blah.run but says premision dinied... i try sudo ./blahblah.run but then- sudo: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found so i don't get it... can enyone?
[11:38] <plastic> *anyone?
[11:38] <adrien-vs-linux> i have a problem with my tuner tv card!
[11:38] <lucas_> hi
[11:38] <adrien-vs-linux> hi
[11:39] <adrien-vs-linux> (i speak french...)
[11:39] <topyli> plastic: it's probably not executable. either chmod it to be executable, or use "sudo sh ./blah.run"
[11:40] <deathllama> who thinks they can help me out with a fluxbox problem
[11:41] <deathllama> Yeah, if anyone is available to share advice, that'd be great.
[11:41] <lurah> deathllama, i think no one here atm cant help you :(
[11:41] <plastic> topyli, yes you are right the chmod  +x helped... thx
[11:41] <simonb> brb just setup qingy on my hoary testing
[11:41] <deathllama> alright kids.
[11:41] <topyli> deathllama: it's impossible for anyone to know if they can help since you're not asking a question
[11:41] <Pega> deathllama, a few hours later might be better time to ask
[11:42] <deathllama> okay.
[11:42] <catolh> is there a good spot to get gdesklets? like starterbar and such? it seems their webpage is down
[11:43] <spanglesontoast> can i burn .bin and .cue files with k3b?
[11:43] <magneto> adreien je parle un peu  i have tv card problems in ubuntu too -
[11:44] <topyli> catolh: glesklets are in universe, you should just apt-get them
[11:44] <deFrysk> spanglesontoast, yes
[11:45] <adrien-vs-linux> how do we do to connect to the channel debian france? please
[11:45] <catolh> topyli, you mean the gdesklets app itself.. im talking about the actual desklets
[11:45] <deFrysk>  /j #debian-fr
[11:45] <adrien-vs-linux> thnaks :)
[11:45] <topyli> catolh: they're in the gdesklets-data package
[11:46] <spanglesontoast> ah
[11:46] <spanglesontoast> can you mount them
[11:46] <catolh> topyli, that one is broken?
[11:46] <Pega> For fucks' sake! I can eat all the fucking rats and goblin corpses and jackals with no problem but then I CHOKE TO A FUCKING FOX CORPSE AND DIE! GG nethack. GG.
[11:46] <wh0rd> hey can someone tell me where is the best place to install real player and generally all other applications for all the users on my ubuntu
[11:47] <lucas_> Can I install a new kernel only with the install disc? I had to change my motherboard.
[11:47] <topyli> Pega: you can die from eating a regular food ration, anything might be poisonous
[11:47] <topyli> catolh: oh. then you need to file a bug
[11:47] <magneto> you shouldnt need a new kernel unless you have specially compiled drivers lucas
[11:47] <Pega> It wasn't poisonous. I choked. :(
[11:48] <topyli> catolh: how are you trying to start them? i mean you do know how to use them?
[11:48] <magneto> lucas_: what board did you have and what did you move to? processor type?
[11:49] <LinuxDolt> anyone help? http://pastebin.ca/19441
[11:49] <topyli> wh0rd: things you compile yourself should go to /usr/local. things you actually build a package for should go to /usr. binary packages go to /opt
[11:49] <android> I have a problem here.. In ubuntu MSN got disconnected all the time, but in windows I don't have this problem. I use WLAN..
[11:49] <magneto> lucas_: the kernel should have the modules you need to operate without too much issue unless you moved to a 64 board
[11:50] <lucas_> magneto: my asus A7V600-X broke and now I have a Asus A7V880, sempron
[11:50] <lucas_> magneto: when I start up I get a kernel panic...
[11:50] <topyli> learn25: i got mail :)
[11:50] <puskom_cari> I used a computer P II 200 MHZ with 128 MB RAM but after instalations my ubuntu run slowly (i'm a newbie)
[11:51] <lucas_> puskom_cari: do you use gnome/
[11:51] <puskom_cari> yes....
[11:51] <lucas_> puskom_cari: it need a litlle bit more than 200mhz
[11:52] <puskom_cari> o...i see
[11:53] <lucas_> puskom_cari: maybe you could use another windowmanager like xfce oder icewm
[11:54] <lucas_> puskom_cari: http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[11:54] <magneto> lucas_: when does it panic? what error is displayed? the A7v 600-x is that amd non-64 too?
[11:54] <adrien-vs-linux> i had a problem with my tuner tv card, i don't have sound...
[11:54] <adrien-vs-linux> i have*
[11:55] <puskom_cari> thanks.. Lucas
[11:55] <adrien-vs-linux> with the command dmesg | grep saa7134 i had: saa7134[0] /audio: audio carrier scan failed, using 5.500 MHz [last detected] 
[11:55] <magneto> adrien: what program are you using? what type of card? is the sound module loaded for it? did you configure the sound in the module settings?
[11:56] <adrien-vs-linux> for watch tv i use tvtime
[11:56] <magneto> what card is it
[11:56] <adrien-vs-linux> Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)) by saa7134
[11:56] <adrien-vs-linux> (sorry for my english...i'm french :d)
[11:57] <salutis> hello all
[11:57] <adrien-vs-linux> hi
[11:58] <magneto> aadrien hold on im looking OK?
[11:59] <adrien-vs-linux> what? wait a moment, i go take my dictionnary :d
[12:00] <magneto> adrien-vs-linux: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[12:01] <magneto> for translation - http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
[12:01] <magneto> http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=en%7Cfr&u=http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134&prev=/language_tools
[12:01] <adrien-vs-linux> ok, thanks :p i go to look that
[12:01] <magneto> adrien - use that
[12:02] <magneto> the last one is translated to francais
[12:02] <adrien-vs-linux> ok, thanks you very much :p
[12:02] <magneto> :)
[12:04] <iuliux> where does scrot keeps the screenshots?
[12:04] <Heijmen> sometimes when i exit the root terminal or synaptic i get and error message "child terminated with 209 status"... what does this mean and how can i fix this?
[12:05] <Mondoshawan> hi all
[12:05] <Amaranth> Heijmen: I get that too, it's nothing.
[12:05] <Heijmen> amaranth: okay, if you say so :)
[12:05] <magneto> adrien-vs-linux: les commandes ont t traduites galement  la page que je vous ai dirig vers, satisfont ainsi l'utilisation le premier lien j'ai signal pour voir les commandes appropries de dactylographier pour obtenir le bruit sur votre fonctionnement de carte.  Ces arrangements sont universels ainsi il ne devrait pas importer qu'il soit pour le gentoo.
[12:06] <Amaranth> magneto, adrien-vs-linux: #ubuntu-fr?
[12:06] <topyli> Heijmen: the child exits and nothing breaks. i don't care which its status is :)
[12:06] <adrien-vs-linux> yes, i know too :d
[12:07] <adrien-vs-linux> i was going ther but there are nobody for help me
[12:07] <magneto> i know but i dont speak french and no one is helping over there Amaranth
[12:07] <Mondoshawan> I have a USB Harddisk and i need to write a script where he mounts automaticly if the Harddisk is on my hotplug works fine the harddisk is always on /dev/sda1 but how can i check that this device is avaible?
[12:07] <Heijmen> topyli: hahahhaa, okay... i guess i'll just live with it then :)
[12:07] <Amaranth> magneto: Please take it to a PM then, this is an English channel.
[12:08] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: gnome-volume-manager should be automounting this for you
[12:08] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: after you plug it in check in /media
[12:08] <catolh> argh, for some reason my Starterbar wont allow me to add items to it.. :\
[12:08] <Mondoshawan> oh no i do not use gnome i use window maker
[12:08] <ironil> was
[12:08] <Amaranth> There is your problem. :)
[12:08] <ironil> was ist das hier
[12:09] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: You need to interface with hal and figure out how to do the right thing. Or just run gnome-volume-manager and have it all work.
[12:09] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: Do you know C?
[12:09] <ironil> was
[12:09] <Mondoshawan> ah ok thanks maybe i run the gnome-volume-manager in autostart of windowmaker
[12:09] <ironil> yes
[12:09] <ironil> ubuntu?
[12:10] <ironil> was ist das?
[12:10] <Mondoshawan> thanks!
[12:10] <ironil> bitte
[12:10] <topyli> ironil: join #ubuntu-de
[12:10] <Amaranth> ironil: #ubuntu-de? not sure what language you're speaking there :)
[12:10] <lucas_> magneto: pivot_root: No such file or directory
[12:10] <ironil> german
[12:11] <magneto> lucas_: are your drives in different order now?
[12:11] <lucas_> magneto: /sbin/init/: 428: can not open console on /dev/console:
[12:11] <lucas_> magneto: what do you mean, pci?
[12:11] <lucas_> magneto: yes
[12:12] <ironil> is it only in english here
[12:13] <ferdi> how to get all the missing libraries??
[12:13] <ferdi> it's hell of a task I guess!!
[12:14] <topyli> ferdi: and which libraries are you missing?
[12:15] <ferdi> gtk..xv...etc
[12:15] <ferdi> can't name them all
[12:15] <topyli> you just apt-get them
[12:15] <catolh> is there a "gdesklet-data" package for the 0.34 release?
[12:15] <magneto> lucas_: nah is hda still in the hda slot etc?
[12:15] <magneto> lucas_: did anything change besides the board? is everything else the same?
[12:16] <ferdi> says package not found
[12:16] <topyli> ferdi: you're not using correct package names. use apt-cache search to discover the names
[12:16] <lucas_> magneto: I have had to put the vga card on another slot
[12:16] <lucas_> magneto: and I don't have 2 cd drives anymore
[12:16] <ferdi> will do
[12:16] <udax> good mooorning
[12:17] <topyli> ferdi: what are you trying to do in the first place? build some GTK packages from sources?
[12:17] <brk3> hi. just wondering are there any plans to implement autopackage into the next ubuntu. because there definitly should be..
[12:17] <cmk> hi all
[12:17] <brk3> cmk: hi
[12:17] <Amaranth> brk3: autopackage will never be in Ubuntu by default
[12:17] <tony> hello
[12:18] <brk3> Amaranth: why
[12:18] <Amaranth> brk3: it's pure crack
[12:18] <tony> im just installing the ubuntu
[12:18] <brk3> Amaranth: ah come on. wtf
[12:18] <tony> im french
[12:18] <cmk> Just installing Ubuntu on my new pc :-) I have installed the base packages. While it boots the first time it stops at "Starting the hotplug system" - what did i wrong? :-)
[12:18] <Amaranth> brk3: Do not start this flamefest in the channel, we've already had it twice in the forums and once in bugzilla.
[12:18] <ferdi> yeah
[12:19] <brk3> Amaranth: happen to have a log of that?
[12:19] <topyli> brk3: autopackage won't integrate into our apt database for one thing
[12:19] <Amaranth> brk3: I'm just telling you what the developers have said.
[12:19] <udax> wher`re u from?
[12:19] <brk3> dcc me
[12:19] <Amaranth> I don't do DCC.
[12:19] <brk3> me?
[12:19] <magneto> lucas_: it can't find /dev/console something got screwed up - are you using sata whats your drive layout?
[12:19] <udax> to all
[12:20] <lucas_> magneto: hm, I use IDE
[12:20] <volvoguy> i'm back with nvidia driver questions. anyone wanna take a stab at it? the nvidia installer won't work because my compiler is gcc 4 and it's expecting 3.4. where can i change that environment variable/
[12:20] <android> how do I get the mplayer plugin for mozilla work? The movies loads, but I only got a black screen in the movie window when loading is done..
[12:21] <cmk> volvoguy maybe you could try gcc_select 3.4 or something like that
[12:21] <brk3> volvoguy: could you not just install gcc3.4
[12:21] <topyli> volvoguy: install 3.4
[12:22] <volvoguy> i installed it, but apparently there's an environment variable set somewhere that still says to use 4.0
[12:22] <Amaranth> volvoguy: that'd be /usr/bin/gcc
[12:22] <volvoguy> i don't know if i need to change something on my system, or in the files from nvidia.
[12:23] <Amaranth> volvoguy: /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink
[12:23] <magneto> lucas_: your grub is hosed
[12:23] <brk3> volvoguy: most likely your system
[12:23] <volvoguy> Amaranth, so just change the symlink to the one i need for the nvidia installer?
[12:24] <magneto> lucas_: do you have the ubuntu install disc or another disc which will allow you to access your drives and run cfdisk?
[12:24] <Amaranth> volvoguy: yeah, change it to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[12:24] <volvoguy> Amaranth, okey dokey. thanks. i may be back. :)
[12:26] <volvoguy> k. changed. going to test it and need to exit x. wish me luck.
[12:28] <brk3> can i just get the main reason for no autopackage? cause i think its the best thin to happen to linux
[12:30] <deFrysk> brk3, imagine a not autopackage needs a dep wich it cannot find cos its related to a not autopackage page and an autopackage is instaled instead
[12:30] <deFrysk> brk3, know what i mean ;p ?
[12:31] <brk3> ah
[12:31] <brk3> ya that is a problem
[12:31] <brk3> ya
[12:31] <deFrysk> brk3, an average user should always stick to the distro-packages
[12:32] <brk3> deFrysk: ya guess you're right
[12:32] <brk3> the reps work well i guess
[12:32] <gorilla_> I need automake 1.5 built for ubuntu hoary, what is the best way to get an package for this? backport??
[12:33] <magneto> gorilla_: i have backports and extras and no automake1.5
[12:33] <magneto> gorilla_: it goes 1.4 1.6 up to 1.9
[12:35] <brk3> so whats the general realease time for the next ubuntu?
[12:35] <gorilla_> magneto: 1.6 would be fine... Should I add the backport repository or just download the package manually??
[12:35] <deFrysk> oct
[12:35] <deFrysk> oct and april are the release dates
[12:35] <brk3> cool
[12:36] <magneto> gorilla_: it should be in your regular repos already
[12:36] <deFrysk> 04.10 05.4 05.10 06.4 etc etc
[12:37] <gorilla_> magneto, oh.. so it is.. I was apt-get install automake... thanks for the help.
[12:38] <magneto> gorilla_: no prob good luck
[12:41] <emperon> Hello i am experiencing some problems with my wireless connection
[12:43] <magneto> emperon: what kind of problems?
[12:44] <emperon> Although   "iwlist eht1 scanning" shows the wireless connection is still valid
[12:44] <emperon> I can not ping anywhere. And this happens occasionally. I mean i have my wireless connection working right now.
[12:45] <magneto> what kind of wireless card?
[12:45] <emperon> But when i am idle and get back 1h later. I saw my connection is gone
[12:45] <magneto> intel?
[12:45] <emperon> when i ping anywhere or router i get "Destination host is not reachable"
[12:45] <magneto> i have that problem with a usb wireless adapter and i used to have it with my laptop
[12:45] <emperon> Well, I am using HP compaq nx7010 laptop. And the card is integrated
[12:45] <magneto> what wireless card is it
[12:46] <magneto> :)
[12:46] <magneto> lsmod
[12:46] <magneto> lsmod | grep 2200
[12:46] <emperon> When i reboot, the problem is being sold
[12:46] <brk3> whats the best kind of laptop to use with ubuntu
[12:46] <magneto> yeah im tryin to see what card you have
[12:47] <emperon> ipw2200                66156  0
[12:47] <emperon> firmware_class          9728  1 ipw2200
[12:47] <emperon> ieee80211              21252  1 ipw2200
[12:47] <magneto> :)
[12:47] <emperon> How can i fix it ?
[12:47] <magneto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[12:47] <magneto> you need to update the driver to the latest
[12:48] <magneto> i had that problem too
[12:48] <cmk> re
[12:48] <emperon> ok, but please note that my wireless connection is mostly working, it is just gone ocassionally. I am forwarding to the link given
[12:48] <parabolize> brk3, www.linux-laptop.net/ also http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
[12:48] <magneto> this laptop im on now has the same intel bw2200
[12:48] <magneto> yes emperoni
[12:48] <brk3> parabolize: thanks
[12:49] <magneto> emperon - or you can use a lil script to rmmod ipw2200 and then modprobe ipw2200 etc
[12:49] <magneto> i made a restart script until i learned the new driver fixed it- you need 1.9
[12:50] <magneto> i had 1.6 and had the same issues
[12:50] <magneto> the old intel drivers for windows have a similar issue
[12:51] <emperon> magneto, which way is more smarter and stable ?
[12:51] <topyli> anyone gotten beagle to index xchat logs?
[12:53] <topyli> here's another: anyone know how to make xchat write a different log for each session
[12:53] <topyli> i guess i could use a wrapper script for the latter
[12:54] <magneto> update the driver because you wont have the problem anymore- but if it isnt convenient because of the learning curve then i'd just use a lil script and put it on the gnome-panel or in your menu
[12:54] <magneto> i just dropped this in a file called wlrestart  - #wireless restart script version .01a
[12:54] <magneto> rmmod ipw2200
[12:54] <magneto> modprobe ipw2200
[12:54] <emperon> i c
[12:54] <magneto> i like it better now because if I leave my laptop on and im downloading something etc i know the wireless link wont die
[12:54] <emperon> technically why does it die now ?
[12:55] <Tomcat_> emperon: When is it dying? Just when downloading stuff, but not at regular surfing?
[12:55] <magneto> it dies because of a glitch in the driver
[12:56] <Tomcat_> magneto: Yeah I was going for that one. ;)
[12:56] <magneto> that glitch is addressed in the newer driver for it
[12:56] <Tomcat_> magneto: The last I heard is that it's still in 1.0.6.
[12:56] <emperon> Tomcat_, it dies when i am idle for some time
[12:56] <Tomcat_> Mh, weird.
[12:56] <Tomcat_> The bug I had was when transferring much data from SMB networks... then it usually broke. That's a known bug.
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: What version of the driver are you using?
[12:57] <emperon> secondly, is there a smart way for hibernate and suspend for my laptop ?
[12:57] <emperon> Tomcat_, dunno
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: If you never changed it manually, you got 0.19... that should be good.
[12:57] <magneto> my bad i had 0.19 and the newer is 1.06
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: Hibernate should be in the logout menu... try if it works.
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: You can enable suspend in a config file.
[12:58] <magneto> it has all the details in the link i posted emperon - tomcat youre right
[12:58] <Tomcat_> I'm on 1.0.0 now and like it... though it's not very good with the wireless button and the LED. :I
[12:58] <emperon> Suppose that i want the comp to hibernate when i close the lid
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> magneto: when i do  make modules modules_install i had:   CHK     include/linux/version.h
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> make[1] : *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible  init/main.o , ncessaire pour  init/built-in.o . Arrt.
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> make: *** [init]  Erreur 2
[12:58] <Garf> in gnome, how do I force a window to stay minimized and not show up in the window list?
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> what do?
[12:59] <Tomcat_> emperon: Can you use the console well? There are files in /etc/acpi and /etc/acpi/events that you can change to hibernate on lid close.
[12:59] <magneto> :) dont know adrien
[12:59] <crashd> ahh, that's where the acpi stuff is
[12:59] <crashd> ive been looking for that fora  day or so ;)
[12:59] <edie> how can i be sure that my MM codecs have been installed?
[12:59] <emperon> Tomcat_, yeah i can use
[01:00] <Tomcat_> emperon: You need to create a script similar to /etc/acpi/lid.sh that will call /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh on lid close...
[01:00] <Tomcat_> emperon: But I doubt it will automatically get up again on lid open.
[01:00] <emperon> Tomcat_, and can i adjust the usual power managment settings. Such as when i am idle for 30 min. it should hibernate or so ?
[01:00] <magneto> Tomcat_: I just found out there were newer drivers last week so im happy with anything - dont know how i ended up with 0.19 - i think it was there in hoary from the beginning
[01:00] <pakYAN> hello everybody
[01:01] <Tomcat_> emperon: There might be apps for that... no idea, I like the defaults. :)
[01:01] <pakYAN> how to config ubuntu display resolution
[01:01] <deFrysk> Garf, move it to another workspace
[01:01] <Tomcat_> magneto: Yeah, 0.19 is the default... I've gone to 1.0.0, but it's basically the same - same features, same stability. I can't really suggest the newer version at the moment...
[01:01] <pakYAN> my system only display 640x480
[01:01] <edie> pakyan : ctrl +alt "+"
[01:02] <magneto> i can i have been using it without error
[01:02] <edie> pakyan : or  ctrl +alt "-"
[01:02] <edie> how can i be sure that my MM codecs have been installed?
[01:02] <pakYAN> ok. i'll try
[01:02] <Tomcat_> magneto: Yeah, it really depends on the usage. :)
[01:02] <pakYAN> do you know default root password
[01:02] <emperon> Now i have an interesting issue. I am clicking Home folder from the menu. It says home folder is starting and it dies
[01:03] <magneto> people on the ubuntu forums seem ok with it too
[01:03] <Tomcat_> !tell pakYAN abour rootsudo
[01:03] <Tomcat_> o_O
[01:03] <Tomcat_> !tell pakYAN about rootsudo
[01:03] <Celiun> newbie question: Anyone know how to mount an hdd in linux? Using Ubuntu 5.04 LiveCD, and I'm trying to back up some stuff before I move over to an install
[01:03] <pakYAN> :)
[01:03] <deFrysk> !tell pakYAN about sudo
[01:03] <thenuke> Celiun: yup, with mount command :)
[01:04] <Tomcat_> deFrysk: Did that ;)
[01:04] <deFrysk> !sudo
[01:04] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:04] <deFrysk> ;p
[01:04] <emperon> Hey I can't browse to anywhere
[01:04] <Celiun> ok
[01:04] <Celiun> just need to figure out the devices then...
[01:04] <thenuke> Celiun: fdisk -l lists them for you
[01:05] <emperon> Natilus is not working
[01:05] <thenuke> Celiun: oh, and you need to be root to list them. so you could do sudo fdisk -l
[01:05] <Celiun> thanks, just the command I was looking for
[01:05] <thenuke> mount obviously needs sudo too
[01:05] <Celiun> I have a root console open :p
[01:05] <pakYAN> i cant config bluetooth
[01:05] <pakYAN> :)
[01:05] <thenuke> righto
[01:05] <edie> how can i be sure that my MM codecs have been installed?
[01:06] <pakYAN> where i can download bluez
[01:06] <Celiun> used linux before, but i never really got the hang of bash
[01:06] <Celiun> or mounting
[01:06] <thenuke> Celiun: ok. you just need to use it to learn it as far as you need to ;)
[01:06] <magneto> edie: what type of codecs? MM? multimedia?
[01:06] <thenuke> Celiun: little by little I have learned new tricks
[01:06] <Determinist> hey guys, how can i find out which clearlooks version i am using?
[01:06] <emperon> Tomcat_, i can't browse to anywhere should i ctrl alt backspace ?
[01:07] <Determinist> which one comes by default with hoary?
[01:07] <Tomcat_> emperon: Why can't you browse anywhere?
[01:07] <Tomcat_> emperon: ctrl-alt-backspace won't fix that anyway.
[01:07] <Celiun> yeah, mostly why I decided to switch to Debian... or Ubuntu :p
[01:08] <emperon> i don't know, never happened before. I just installed the linux headers. And now when i click home folder or any other place from the menu, it says starting ... and it dies
[01:08] <pakYAN> ubuntu have bluez package ready to install?
[01:08] <edie> magneto : yes
[01:08] <Toma-> if i want to add a vfat partition to fstab and have it accesable and mountable by all users, the type is vfat, and the options are user,umask=0000 right?
[01:08] <edie> i have followed the instructions ont the guide (ubuntu)
[01:09] <Tomcat_> Toma-: Sounds good.
[01:09] <magneto> edie: ls /usr/local/lib/codecs i think that is the directory they are in-  are they not working?
[01:09] <Toma-> Tomcat_, it dont work :( cant execute
[01:09] <magneto> xine mplayer totem?
[01:09] <Tomcat_> Toma-: Error messages?
[01:09] <Toma-> bash: ./glx: Permission denied
[01:09] <Toma-> thats all
[01:09] <Toma-> being vfat, it doesnt have permissions, so i dunno whats goin on :/
[01:10] <magneto> edie: you tryin to watch a movie with which program?
[01:10] <edie> magneto: ifd try to open an mp3 file it gives a codec error.but i did what i could do.
[01:10] <bimberi> Determinist: dpkg -l gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[01:10] <magneto> edie: did you install mp3 support?
[01:10] <kemik> Toma-:  see what "ls -lha" gives.. if its +x or not etc
[01:10] <Ipdog> mp3?
[01:10] <Toma-> ...vfat?
[01:11] <edie> you meanrepositories?
[01:11] <Toma-> its all executable
[01:11] <pakYAN> nobody can help me to config bluetooth :(
[01:11] <edie> you mean repositories?
[01:11] <Determinist> bimberi, thank you
[01:11] <bimberi> Determinist: yw :)
[01:11] <Determinist> :D
[01:12] <Determinist> bimberi, any idea on how i would be able to upgrade clearlooks 0.5 to 0.6? :)
[01:12] <Ipdog> bluetooth?
[01:12] <pakYAN> yess ipdog
[01:12] <edie> magneto:i installed somethings, as i told i followed the instrutions on the ubuntu guide..
[01:12] <kemik> Toma-:  can you do "sudo glx" ?
[01:12] <magneto> edie: hold up
[01:12] <pakYAN> bluetooth not redtooth :))
[01:13] <edie> magneto:Ok.
[01:13] <bimberi> Determinist: I think there's a newer version in backports
[01:13] <bimberi> !backports
[01:13] <ubotu> [backports]  .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[01:13] <Toma-> yeh :/
[01:13] <magneto> edie: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&highlight=mp3+support
[01:13] <pakYAN> !bluetooth
[01:13] <ubotu> pakYAN: No idea
[01:13] <pakYAN> :(
[01:13] <highvoltage> hi. i need to provide someone a gpg-signed ssh public key. the gpg-signed part i more or less have down now, but i haven't used (purposely) used ssh keys before.
[01:13] <Toma-> ok, i tried defaults,user and now it executes, but cant write
[01:14] <pakYAN> !irda
[01:14] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:14] <pakYAN> :(
[01:14] <highvoltage> i did a ssh-keygen -t dsa, so what exactly is it that I need ot sign?
[01:14] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Best to do a Google search... there are millions of howtos for ssh keys.
[01:14] <Ipdog> what is redtooth ?
[01:14] <pakYAN> !gprs
[01:14] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, pakYAN
[01:14] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: You need to sign the public key... never give out the private key that ssh generates.
[01:14] <edie> i have problem with mounting win partitions also, again i tryed to do it using the guide, bu i coudnot do it:(
[01:14] <Toma-> also with rw, i have no write
[01:14] <pakYAN> redtooth = Irda
[01:15] <highvoltage> Tomcat_: ok. i was hoping for some real person help ;) thanks anyway.
[01:15] <pakYAN> :)
[01:15] <kemik> !tell edie about ntfs
[01:15] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Well you can wait if somebody answers... I don't know the exact procedures, I'd have to look them up as well. :)
[01:15] <highvoltage> Tomcat_: that's why i wanted to ask here instead, just so that i don't accidentally screw it up
[01:15] <magneto> edie: libmad is the package that contains the mp3 support
[01:15] <kemik> Toma-:  sounds really weird
[01:15] <highvoltage> Tomcat_: ok :)
[01:15] <Toma-> yeh i know.
[01:15] <pakYAN> !cdma
[01:15] <ubotu> pakYAN: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:15] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: afaik ssh-keygen generates a private/public keypair in ~/.ssh, and you need to give the public key to the other person.
[01:15] <Toma-> used to work on fedora :/ has ubuntu got some weird su thing going on?
[01:16] <edie> its FAT
[01:16] <thenuke> Toma-: no weird things :) pretty normal su things
[01:16] <Tomcat_> Toma-: Ubuntu uses sudo instead of su.
[01:16] <Toma-> rightio
[01:16] <highvoltage> ok. seems to be id_dsa.pub. thanks.
[01:16] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Yeah.
[01:16] <edie> i editted the fstab file, as i want to mount my hd's
[01:16] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Just sign the key and send it to anyone...
[01:16] <pakYAN> !lcd
[01:16] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:17] <edie> but the folders i created seems to be empty.
[01:17] <kemik> edie:  please read that page ubotu gave you
[01:17] <pakYAN> hemm
[01:17] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: If you put the private key in some file in ~/.ssh, the people with the public key will have access to the box.
[01:17] <Determinist> bimberi, what's backports? some unsupported update repo?
[01:17] <pakYAN> !connect with bluetooth
[01:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, pakYAN
[01:17] <magneto> ntfs write?
[01:17] <kemik> magneto:  not recommended
[01:17] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Eh.. no, the public key needs to be in some file. :)
[01:18] <edie> kemik : why?
[01:18] <bimberi> Determinist: No, there is an official backports repository (although you should only enable it for an install, not for upgrades)
[01:18] <kemik> edie:  because it will help you?!
[01:18] <magneto> kemik: i know - i was asking if thats what he was trying to get
[01:18] <bimberi> !backports
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[01:18] <kemik> edie: # This utility searches for available HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions, creates
[01:18] <kemik> # mount points for them and adds them to /etc/fstab
[01:18] <kemik> edie:  now do as you're told
[01:18] <magneto> edie: its not safe
[01:18] <pakYAN> !snmp
[01:18] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:18] <Toma-> ok, it executes but i get the standard error for writing... touch: cannot touch `woot': Permission denied
[01:19] <pakYAN> !qmail
[01:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, pakYAN
[01:19] <Toma-> thats with just defaults as the option
[01:19] <Determinist> bimberi, thank you again :)
[01:19] <bimberi> Determinist: if you add that deb line (in ubotu's post above) to your sources.list - that enables backports
[01:19] <kemik> Toma-:  remove defaults as option ?
[01:19] <Toma-> perms are normal on the /dev entry
[01:19] <Determinist> bimberi, already done
[01:19] <Toma-> ok...
[01:19] <pakYAN> !dpkg
[01:19] <ubotu> methinks dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[01:19] <Celiun> wait a sec
[01:19] <Celiun> Ubuntu can't read NTFS?
[01:20] <Tomcat_> Celiun: It can.
[01:20] <magneto> yes it can
[01:20] <bimberi> Celiun: yes it can
[01:20] <pakYAN> !reiserfs
[01:20] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:20] <Celiun> ok
[01:20] <pakYAN> hemm
[01:20] <Celiun> just checking
[01:20] <magneto> you need the module Celium
[01:20] <edie> magneto:why it is not safe? whou should i listen to?
[01:20] <Celiun> oh?
[01:20] <Toma-> no love kemik :(
[01:21] <kemik> edie:  writing to NTFS partitions is not safe.. but you're mounting a FAT partition right?
[01:21] <magneto> edie: google ntfs support in linux
[01:21] <pakYAN> !jakarta
[01:21] <ubotu> pakYAN: No idea
[01:21] <pakYAN> !java
[01:21] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[01:21] <kemik> edie:  and have you read that link and ran the program!?
[01:21] <edie> yes i tryed to mount a FAT parti.
[01:21] <Toma-> ill ty again later. thanks kemik, Tomcat_
[01:21] <Celiun> fortunally, I just need to read from it, not write
[01:21] <edie> ok, i am tryin...
[01:21] <kr> when i use amule, i get warning i have a lowid, why is that and how can i adjust it, im using firewall
[01:21] <Celiun> back to mounting
[01:22] <kemik> !tell Celiun about ntfs
[01:22] <pakYAN> !rc.local
[01:22] <ubotu> No idea, pakYAN
[01:22] <Celiun> thanks kemik, don't need it yet though... just doing some back ups
[01:23] <kemik> Celiun:  np.. just bookmark it for later then ;)
[01:23] <magneto> Celiun: make sure you have ntfsprogs not sure if it is instaledby default
[01:23] <pakYAN> where i can put rc.local?
[01:23] <kemik> magneto:  what are you raving on about? =)
[01:23] <catolh> Is anyone else having trouble with xcompmgr? When i enable it everything gets all screwy.. :\  here's a screenshot: http://home.no.net/catolh/Screenshot.png
[01:24] <kr> can anybody help me whit amule
[01:24] <Tomcat_> catolh: Never had that, but xcompmgr is known to be buggy.
[01:24] <Tomcat_> kr: Just ask what you want to know.
[01:24] <Tempsu> !UCR7KASSEMBLY
[01:24] <ubotu> Tempsu: I give up, what is it?
[01:24] <Tomcat_> kr: There's also #amule
[01:24] <shinu> how can i update my kernel?
[01:24] <catolh> Tomcat_, bah... the only way to get gdesklets transparent is to use xcompmgr right?.. :\
[01:24] <selinium> Hi all, after reinstalling Hoary my printer will only print a t low res. Any ideas?
[01:25] <Tomcat_> catolh: Well you can use fake transparency... I'm happy with that, as the gdesklets don't move anyway.
[01:25] <catolh> Tomcat_, how?.. :o
[01:25] <shinu> apt-get upgrade linux-kernel?
[01:25] <kemik> selinium:  sure you're using the correct printerdrivers?
[01:25] <Tomcat_> catolh: But yes, real transparency only with xcompmgr.
[01:25] <Celiun> magneto, how might i be able to check if it's installed, also, i'm using the LiveCD version of Ubuntu
[01:25] <Tomcat_> catolh: It's on by default...
[01:25] <kr> i get a lowid, and wondere how to change that
[01:26] <Tomcat_> kr: Open your firewall... and try reconnecting to different servers, some are bad.
[01:26] <catolh> Tomcat_, hm..weird.. its not on here.. its a black square around the gdesklets
[01:26] <Tomcat_> catolh: http://w3studi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~breiersn/Screenshot.png
[01:26] <Tomcat_> catolh: Well if you disable xcompmgr you need to disable the translucency in gdesklets...
[01:26] <Tomcat_> catolh: Then it'll look like on my screenshot.
[01:26] <catolh> ah
[01:27] <catolh> thanks.. :)
[01:27] <selinium> kemik: pretty sure, In the print settings i have chosen my printer and the GIMP-PRINT driver.
[01:27] <Tomcat_> catolh: If you disable xcompmgr and have translucency in gdesklets enabled it will have a border. :)
[01:27] <kr> i dot know how to use the firewall either, just installed firestarter and started it, and did not add anything
[01:27] <edie> magneto: thank you for the link. its really useful link.
[01:28] <kemik> selinium:  i was thinking if CUPS is using the rght driver ?
[01:28] <Tomcat_> kr: I don't know how to use firestarter... but you need to open the TCP port and optionally the UDP port that aMule uses, or you'll always get a LowID.
[01:28] <kr> ok thank you my friend, i will try that
[01:28] <selinium> kemik: How do you mean? :)
[01:29] <Tomcat_> kr: You could ask in #amule, maybe somebody there knows how to do that in firestarter.
[01:29] <Celiun> hm... already mounted...
[01:29] <kemik> selinium:  Common UNIX Printing System <- it's where the stuff is sent before it's sent to your printer
[01:30] <kr> ok thank you,
[01:30] <hobojoe> hi, I have connected two machines to an Active Directory domain using winbind. Both machines have samba shares, but I cant figure out to authenticate against the other machine in order to browse its shares
[01:31] <selinium> kemik: How do I check?
[01:31] <magneto> Celiun: just try to mount it    mount -t ntfs //dev/hda somedir/
[01:31] <magneto> replace hda with the drive and partition u are tryin to mount
[01:32] <shinu> if i apt-get upgrade linux-image-2.6.11-1-386 and it doesnt work well, can i somehow use the previous kernel?
[01:32] <Celiun> Says it's already mounted, just trying to figure out where
[01:32] <shinu> like... is it still in the grub menu?
[01:32] <Whitesocks> Hi people.. im not sure i understand the output of the size command on a executable. Anyone awake and willing to answer some questions for me? I know its not ubuntu specific though... :)
[01:32] <hobojoe> Celiun, type mount
[01:32] <emperon> magneto, ??
[01:33] <magneto> emperon:
[01:33] <emperon> i need help
[01:33] <emperon> i was proceeding the wireless how to
[01:33] <magneto> Celiun: type cfdisk and see which partition is ntfs if you arent sure - is that the one mounted?
[01:33] <emperon> how ever after writing sudo sh remove-old
[01:33] <magneto> yes
[01:33] <magneto> it wouldnt remove
[01:34] <emperon> and i got error from the make
[01:34] <Kate> hello
[01:34] <edie> magneto: thank you for the link. its really useful link.
[01:34] <magneto> emperon: it wont make until the old files are gone go to the directory
[01:34] <gorilla_> I'm trying to compile plib, and getting an error checking for C compiler default output file name... "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". what packages do i need to install for the  C/C++ devel stuff?
[01:34] <emperon> when i make it re asks to remove some stuff and what ever i say it gives  out and error. Further more, my wireless connection has gone off totally
[01:34] <Celiun> magneto, can't open them with cfdisk, oddly enough
[01:34] <magneto> edie: your welcome - it makes life easy
[01:34] <Goek> how do i play fmp4 video?
[01:34] <emperon> magneto, which files i should delete ?
[01:34] <gorilla_> hello Kate :-)
[01:35] <magneto> emperon: i know hold on ill tell ya :)
[01:35] <emperon> k
[01:35] <Goek> i've tried with all of my mediaplayers and they refuse to show video - only audio
[01:35] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk
[01:35] <Goek> i have all the codecs provided by synaptic
[01:35] <kemik> Celiun:  "df -lha"
[01:35] <edie> kemik: can you send me again the link you told me, i quit  the chat program unwillingly.
[01:35] <kemik> !tell edie about ntfs
[01:35] <Whitesocks> I would basicly like to know how the size command knows where the executable command will be loaded into memory... or does it show relative addresses in virtual memory that later gets translated to real memory by the MMU?
[01:35] <Celiun> magneto, only finds the cd
[01:35] <edie> my hd's are not NTFS...
[01:36] <kemik> edie:  it detects FAT too
[01:36] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[01:36] <edie> ok..
[01:36] <selinium> kemik: How do I check? If CUPS is using the right driver?
[01:36] <kemik> edie:  please read what it says
[01:36] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc
[01:36] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[01:36] <emperon> Goek,  http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:36] <Kate> I'm quite a newbie with linux, and I've recently got an internal modem, 56k that claims to be linux compatible. However, the instructions dont work
[01:36] <Kate> something to do with the wrong kernel or something
[01:36] <edie> ok, i am reading
[01:36] <Celiun> bingo
[01:36] <kemik> selinium:  you have to connect to the cups server
[01:37] <kemik> Celiun:  df -lha will list all devices and where tehy are mounted
[01:37] <Celiun> yeah
[01:37] <Celiun> like mount -l
[01:37] <gehel2> Whitesocks, it probably shows addresses in VM. In a modern OS, there almost no other usefull addresses ...
[01:37] <Celiun> anyways, found them now, going to write them down
[01:37] <selinium> kemik: I am sorry, but how do you go about that?
[01:37] <kemik> selinium:  i dont remember exactly which port it is running on
[01:37] <Kate> oh the driver im talking about
[01:38] <kemik> selinium:  hold on
[01:38] <kemik> !cups
[01:38] <ubotu> kemik: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:38] <Celiun> thanks guys, think I can work it out now
[01:38] <magneto> emperon:
[01:38] <magneto> Celiun: cool
[01:38] <edie> kemik: it seems to be script file, i thought that it is a program should be set up:) so how can i use that script?
[01:39] <emperon> magneto, listening
[01:40] <emperon> magneto,
[01:40] <kemik> edie:  it says how in the comments, so just read it and follow the instructions and you'll be fine :)
[01:40] <gehel2> Whitesocks, after a look at the man page, it looks like it show addresses in the object file itself, which are of course exactly the same as VM addresses
[01:40] <magneto> emperon: sorry /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/net/ieee80211/
[01:40] <emperon> magneto, is this the file i should remove ?
[01:41] <emperon> magneto, is this the direcotry i should remove ?
[01:41] <Celiun> ...
[01:41] <edie> kemik: ok, sorry:)
[01:41] <magneto> go into that directory and copy the contents to another location - then delete everything in there- make sure you unloaded your wireless modules - which means dont do it if you are using wireless now and havent downloaded the other stuff u need from that post you were readaing
[01:41] <kemik> selinium:  try connecting to 127.0.0.1:631 in firefox
[01:42] <emperon> magneto, no such directory
[01:42] <Celiun> ok, apparently I forgot what FAT32 is called in linux
[01:42] <emperon> i have the 2.6.10-5....
[01:42] <kemik> selinium:  "http://localhost:631" or "http://127.0.0.1:631"
[01:42] <Celiun> because it just pops up the help
[01:42] <emperon> but no net directory in it
[01:42] <kemik> Celiun:  vfat ?
[01:42] <Celiun> vfat? thanks
[01:42] <Celiun> that worked
[01:42] <Celiun> finally
[01:43] <kemik> :)
[01:43] <Celiun> thanks kemik
[01:43] <kemik> np
[01:43] <emperon> magneto, got that ?
[01:43] <kemik> selinium:  still with us ?
[01:44] <magneto> no net directory?
[01:44] <Celiun> bah, apparently I don't have the module for reading NTFS
[01:44] <emperon> magneto,
[01:45] <Celiun> oh well, managed to mount them
[01:45] <theine> How do I get from X to the console under Breezy? <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F1>,... doesn't work
[01:45] <kemik> Celiun:  module ?
[01:45] <kemik> !tell Celiun about ntfs
[01:45] <magneto> emperon; tryin to find the right directory for u
[01:45] <Amaranth> theine: reinstall xkbutils and xkeyboard-config and that'll work again
[01:45] <kemik> Celiun:  tried that script ? should autodetect and mount your stuff and put it in fstab
[01:46] <Celiun> I'll try
[01:46] <learn25> Hi all.
[01:46] <Kate> hi
[01:46] <theine> Amaranth, ah, thanks again
[01:46] <learn25> How to check if port 25 is blocked by my ISP?
[01:46] <gorilla_> I'm trying to compile plib, and getting an error checking for C compiler default output file name... "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". what packages do i need to install for the  C/C++ devel stuff?
[01:46] <johnnybezak> hey guys is breezy ok to use atm?
[01:47] <magneto> emperon: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/net/ieee80211
[01:47] <kemik> learn25:  telnet it, or portscan
[01:47] <learn25> how?
[01:47] <nomis_> johnnybezak, the topic says no ;)
[01:47] <learn25> is there a site that will port scan?
[01:47] <Whitesocks> grc.com is good
[01:47] <magneto> emperon: you arent using the wireless now are u?
[01:47] <vader1102> learn25: no
[01:47] <emperon> magneto, i can't
[01:47] <thenuke> vader1102: there is.
[01:47] <gehel2> learn25, if you give me your IP I can do it for you
[01:47] <learn25> so how
[01:48] <learn25> ok
[01:48] <emperon> magneto, i'll paste the contents to
[01:48] <johnnybezak> nomis_: no it doesnt haha it says have a question just ask :P
[01:48] <learn25> 203.131.122.23
[01:48] <Whitesocks> grc.com will portscan
[01:48] <thenuke> learn25: google for portscan
[01:48] <magneto> emperon: are you using the wireless card now?
[01:48] <emperon> emperon, no, and i can't
[01:48] <vader1102> thenuke: according to the caption when you join iit isn't
[01:48] <learn25> ok
[01:48] <johnnybezak> nomis: i just want a new kernel, because the ndis drivers seem to be making my system a bit buggy
[01:48] <emperon> magneto, no and i can't
[01:48] <magneto> emperon: ok
[01:49] <gehel2> learn25, I get a connection refused, so either it is blocked by your ISP or your FW or you have nothing listening on that port
[01:49] <magneto> emperon: just makin sure in case you hadnt unloaded the driver
[01:49] <emperon> magneto, take a look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/985
[01:49] <thenuke> vader1102: what?
[01:49] <Kate> can anyone help me?
[01:49] <topyli> learn25: perhaps ubuntu's postfix is only listening on localhost
[01:49] <topyli> by default
[01:49] <emperon> magneto, no net directory
[01:49] <nomis_> johnnybezak, continue reading the topic. you re on the right way :P ... did you try the 2.6.11 kernel from ubuntu ?
[01:49] <learn25> so how to enable postfix to listen to port 25?
[01:50] <Celiun> !tell Celiun about ntfs
[01:50] <thenuke> learn25: by googling for "ubuntu postfix"
[01:50] <magneto> emperon: locate ieee         and look for a folder in /lib/modules/ named ieee80211
[01:51] <learn25> anyone knows how to configure postfix to listen on port 25?
[01:51] <gehel2> learn25, "netstat -lpn | grep 25" will tell you if it is already listening
[01:51] <topyli> learn25: in /etc/postfix/main.cf i have "inet_interfaces = loopback-only"
[01:51] <thenuke> it does not listen outworld by default
[01:51] <Raptoid> selamlar..
[01:52] <gehel2> goodbye all ...
[01:52] <emperon> magneto, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/986
[01:52] <learn25> here's the message
[01:53] <learn25> learn25@wvcstecemicrolabserver:~$ sudo netstat -lpn | grep 25
[01:53] <learn25> Password:
[01:53] <learn25> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7207/master
[01:53] <learn25> tcp6       0      0 ::1:25                  :::*                    LISTEN     7207/master
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11886    7598/gam_server     @/tmp/fam-learn25-unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11616    7586/gconfd-2       /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1da2-0-117362fd237f2
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11626    7535/x-session-mana /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1d6f-0-77697f8e43e7d
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11831    7593/bonobo-activat /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1da9-0-4b3d59cd5aa2d
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11851    7595/gnome-settings /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dab-0-63e8f9a5362e4
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11994    7632/metacity       /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dd0-0-5c8eaf8230f88
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12026    7640/gnome-panel    /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dd8-0-36af25b1bf3c8
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12043    7644/gnome-volume-m /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1ddc-0-36af25b01b4c0
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12067    7642/nautilus       /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dda-0-60e820fb5a451
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12086    7650/update-notifie /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1de2-0-60e820fba658c
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12112    7652/gnome-cups-ico /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1de4-0-60e820fbf0a51
[01:53] <emperon> learn25,  use paste.ubuntulinux.nl!
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12153    7658/gnome-vfs-daem /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dea-0-6e88b904d494b
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12166    7664/trashapplet    /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1df0-0-26e8ba1be5428
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12194    7662/wnck-applet    /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dee-0-13ad1f1d42adc
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12253    7671/mapping-daemon /tmp
[01:53] <topyli> please stop
[01:53] <learn25> is my postfix listen on port 25?
[01:53] <thenuke> argh :D
[01:54] <thenuke> learn25: why dont you do what I told you to.
[01:54] <thenuke> learn25: google for "ubuntu postfix"
[01:54] <Amaranth> Please do not do that again.
[01:54] <emperon> magneto, what say you ?
[01:54] <learn25> some told me to use that command to check. sorry for the long message.
[01:54] <Celiun> ... is there a default root password for the LiveCD?
[01:54] <elmago> he guys one short question
[01:54] <magneto> emperon: did you install the kernel headers?
[01:54] <Celiun> and if so, what is it? -_-
[01:54] <emperon> emperon, oh yeah
[01:55] <magneto> :)
[01:55] <Crane> hello
[01:55] <magneto> im like WTF?//
[01:55] <elmago> can someone tell me where i get the 2.6.11 kernel for ubuntu?
[01:55] <magneto> lol
[01:55] <emperon> i mean i have run this "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" successfully
[01:55] <emperon> if you mean the above
[01:55] <topyli> learn25: paste those into #flood or paste.ubuntulinux.nl, never in the channel
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get update
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get install gcc
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:55] <magneto> ?
[01:56] <emperon> magneto, i have already done the previous ones earlier
[01:56] <learn25> ic. sorry for that ;-(
[01:56] <elmago> can someone tell me where i get the 2.6.11 kernel for ubuntu?
[01:56] <Crane> elmago, if it is not in repositories you will have to download and compile it from another source
[01:57] <Crane> kernel.org
[01:57] <elmago> thx
[01:57] <Amaranth> elmago: you have to build your own
[01:57] <elmago> ok
[01:57] <Amaranth> elmago: any reason you need 2.6.11?
[01:57] <emperon> magneto, is the situation getting hopeless ?
[01:57] <elmago> i want to install the ati driver but on their hp they only have drivers for the 2.6.11 kernel
[01:57] <emperon> hold o
[01:58] <emperon> n
[01:58] <Amaranth> elmago: ubuntu comes with the ati driver
[01:58] <elmago> really
[01:58] <magneto> emperon: naw not hopeless
[01:58] <Amaranth> !info fglrx
[01:58] <elmago> one moment
[01:58] <Amaranth> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:58] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB
[01:59] <nooneyouknow> does anyone know if the current breezy upgrade is working?
[01:59] <emperon> magneto, check out this. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/987 . this is the error i am getting
[01:59] <elmago> i get : event not found
[01:59] <Amaranth> ?
[01:59] <Amaranth> elmago: you need to install this package
[01:59] <elmago> ok
[01:59] <Amaranth> and configure xorg to use the driver
[02:00] <edie> kemik: cok saol.
[02:00] <Amaranth> !ati
[02:00] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <elmago> thx alot for the moment
[02:00] <magneto> emperon: cmon man ----------------- it was right there
[02:00] <emperon> magneto, oh yeah found the dr
[02:00] <magneto> emperon: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/include/config/ieee80211
[02:00] <edie> kemik: thanx
[02:00] <magneto> lol
[02:01] <emperon> magneto, ok, but why locate is failed. cause of the updatedb ?
[02:01] <Amaranth> elmago: that wiki link should give you all the info you need
[02:01] <magneto> emperon: yup
[02:01] <magneto> emperon: but the path was there from when you first ran the script
[02:01] <magneto> :)
[02:02] <nooneyouknow> does anyone know if the current breezy upgrade is working?
[02:02] <elmago> thx
[02:03] <theine> The new didgeridoo-enhanced welcome melody is very nice i have to say
[02:03] <petti> hm. had to do some work but now my webcam works with gnomemeeting.
[02:05] <Abood> hi there
[02:05] <Celiun> hm... the winmac_fstab script didn't work either
[02:05] <Celiun> wonder what's up
[02:05] <Celiun> still denying me access
[02:05] <Abood> guys can any body tell me how to install windows xp or win2k3 under ubuntu, or any tutorial that might help ??
[02:06] <Celiun> ...
[02:06] <emperon> magneto, still the situation is not improved. I got the same error and the referred dir is empty
[02:07] <emperon> magneto, can it be because of the modules working right now ?
[02:07] <sJaM> look in the wiki Abood
[02:08] <emperon> magneto, please check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/988
[02:09] <shinu> is there any way i could recover my /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[02:09] <shinu> i just overwrote it by mistake...
[02:09] <emperon> there is this line in lsmod :  firmware_class          9728  0
[02:09] <JoshRA> Why would tspc and ipv6 cause a kernal panic?
[02:10] <shinu> oh nvm... there's a backup 8)
[02:10] <shinu> phew~
[02:10] <sJaM> sorry it isn't in the wiki Abood
[02:10] <sJaM> but there are a few steps todo
[02:10] <gorilla_> I'm not sure where this configure command aborts.. I'm trying to compil plib. paste is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/989
[02:10] <topyli> Abood: you would have to buy vmware, which costs about as much as a windows pc
[02:11] <sJaM> I though he ment a dualboot
[02:11] <magneto> emperon: did you delete everything in that directory?
[02:11] <topyli> Abood: or maybe qemu is good enough these days, dunno
[02:11] <emperon> magneto, i have rmoved everything to /tmp
[02:12] <magneto> emperon: ls /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/include/config/ieee80211
[02:12] <emperon> magneto, i am writing ls -al  and  only the dots
[02:13] <mmazur> Anybody knows of any docs describing how ubuntu's release process looks like in detail (duration of freezes, etc.)?
[02:13] <magneto> emperon delete that folder too
[02:13] <emperon> magneto, ok
[02:13] <magneto> thats probably it
[02:13] <selinium> It it worth switching off the backports and extras repos after I have got what I want?
[02:14] <magneto> stupid script
[02:14] <kezz> selinium, how would you keep the stuff updated?
[02:15] <selinium> kezz: true, but it wants to update other files that are not being updated in the standard repos... it is basically a question on how dangerous it is...
[02:15] <bimberi> selinium: Yes. Just use them for installing things you "must have" but leave them off for (dist-)upgrades.
[02:15] <nekohayo> hello, I just bought an atheros-based b/a/g pcmcia wireless card, and I tested it, it works in the shop
[02:15] <emperon> magneto, seems 'making' now
[02:16] <nekohayo> however, I can't get signal
[02:16] <nekohayo> at home
[02:16] <nekohayo> I get like 0/94
[02:16] <emperon> thank you
[02:16] <selinium> cheers bimberi and kezz
[02:16] <nekohayo> any idea why?
[02:16] <Abood> topyli, sJaM: I heared something about VNS Server that could run it quietly and good ? any idea
[02:16] <jowi> hiya
[02:16] <magneto> sorry about that the solution is in that thread too but its 7 pages long
[02:16] <nekohayo> seems like something about tweaking the sensibility of the driver or the mode, but I don't know
[02:17] <magneto> im tired too its 8am here
[02:17] <jowi> i was thinking. i have a slight annoyance with ssh
[02:18] <jowi> when i start a command (lets say an mp3 playback) on the remote box and then close my connection, of course the tty and the command cease to exist. is there a way to let that process stay running?
[02:19] <nightswim> screen
[02:19] <nightswim> nohup
[02:19] <jowi> nightswim, was that response to me?
[02:19] <nightswim> yes
[02:19] <nightswim> :)
[02:19] <jowi> nightswim, thanks i will try that :-)
[02:20] <petti> ctrl-a d will also help once you get it running :)
[02:21] <JoshRA> Why would tspc and ipv6 cause a kernal panic?
[02:21] <jowi> nightswim, worked like a charm
[02:22] <nightswim> jowi: good :)
[02:22] <jowi> nightswim, problem #2.
[02:22] <dArtagnan> How do I unmount a device when it's busy? I can't find a process that is using the disc
[02:23] <nightswim> dArtagnan: tried lsof?
[02:23] <jowi> nightswim, i logged back again and killed the process. the pid dissapeared but the process is still going (i can hear the music)
[02:23] <dArtagnan> no, only a crappy system monitor, but that wasn't a very helpfull tool
[02:23] <nightswim> there is another process then :)
[02:23] <nightswim> or a very large buffer
[02:24] <jowi> nightswim, maybe it buffered the whole mp3 then. i will investigate. interesting
[02:24] <nightswim> or check the processlist
[02:24] <nightswim> perhaps there is a worker process left
[02:24] <nightswim> or something
[02:25] <emperon> magneto, still problems
[02:25] <jowi> hmmm, pstree does not state a process...
[02:25] <emperon> magneto, i have completed the how to upto the reboot section
[02:25] <highvoltage> on the plone.org site they recomment you install plone from source, not from your distribution's packages. Is this true? I would think that it's better to use the ubuntu packages in ubuntu.
[02:26] <emperon> magneto, the problem is in the network connections menu of the gnome i can not see the wireless connection anymore
[02:26] <jowi> nightswim, but it seemed like the whole "play my.mp3" was buffered as you said because suddenly it stopped after the song ended, even though i had put in a whole playlist.
[02:26] <jowi> nightswim, good man
[02:27] <dArtagnan> can I search the process list for something? because this one is just too long
[02:27] <crashd> ps -aux | grep something
[02:29] <dArtagnan> a found it, lsof names /path/to/dir
[02:29] <dArtagnan> there was indeed one process using the device
[02:29] <crashd> : ] 
[02:30] <kumaran> hi
[02:30] <lurah> hi
[02:31] <ssh_rdp> where can i ask questions about my video card
[02:31] <kumaran> need link for open source software firewall with packet filtering features for my testing
[02:32] <thenuke> kumaran: iptables?
[02:32] <kumaran> i am looking for something similar to smoothwall
[02:33] <Ubuntu> Ah..........my i ask a question
[02:33] <kenny_> hi guys
[02:33] <Ubuntu> hello........kenny
[02:33] <jowi> hi kenny_
[02:33] <thenuke> kumaran: and smoothwall does not do what?
[02:33] <jowi> go on Ubuntu
[02:33] <kenny_> hi jowi/ubuntu
[02:34] <kenny_> so who has questions
[02:34] <Ubuntu> Me
[02:34] <kenny_> ask away
[02:34] <Ubuntu> About the RAID Controller
[02:34] <kenny_> Have no idea
[02:35] <kenny_> lol
[02:35] <Ubuntu> OMG
[02:35] <kumaran> thenuke: i need to check that
[02:35] <kenny_> so who r the admins/mods in this room
[02:35] <emperon> magneto, are you there  ?
[02:36] <ssh_rdp> anybody knows how to install i810 driver on ubuntu ?
[02:36] <thenuke> kenny_: why do you need an admin
[02:36] <Ubuntu> Wow........this is my first time to use IRC Protocal
[02:36] <jowi> ssh_rdp, modprobe i810 usually do the trick
[02:36] <Ubuntu> It is cool
[02:36] <kumaran> thenuke: need more info on open source software that does firewall and packet level filtering
[02:36] <kenny_> i dont, just like to know who they are
[02:37] <thenuke> ...
[02:37] <Ubuntu> Any one know how to install Ubuntu on VT6410?
[02:37] <jowi> ssh_rdp, if you want it automatic you can add "i810" to your /etc/modules
[02:37] <Amaranth> kenny_: You'll know who they are when you do something you shouldn't.
[02:37] <kenny_> lol
[02:38] <kenny_> yea i guess
[02:38] <mjr> Ubuntu, no; I'd just use software raid (unless you want to use 5 or 6)
[02:38] <emperon> Hello i have upgraded my ipw2200 wireless card driver from this Howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623. and now i can't use my wireless connection and i can't see the card in networking window of the gnome. How can i fix it ?
[02:39] <Ubuntu> kenny....are you the one of developer of Ubuntu?
[02:39] <Kev0r> YOW :D
[02:40] <othernoob> hi, how do i install vmware?
[02:40] <Ubuntu> I hava a source code of VIA South Bridge Driver..........but I need Ubuntu Deve to build in it
[02:40] <kumaran> othernoob: vmware on ubuntu
[02:40] <kenny_> no Ubuntu im not, im not smart enough to be a developer
[02:41] <kenny_> but i do like to help people with problems
[02:41] <Ubuntu> Good..........
[02:41] <emperon> kenny_, help me
[02:42] <kenny_> whats ur prob emperon
[02:42] <HeroTsai> hi
[02:42] <kenny_> hi hero
[02:42] <emperon> kenny_, i have upgraded my ipw2200 wireless card driver from this Howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623. and now i can't use my wireless connection and i can't see the card in networking window of the gnome. How can i fix it ?
[02:43] <HeroTsai> hi kenny
[02:43] <Ubuntu> Hi.....HeroTsai
[02:43] <Ubuntu> HeroTsai is my classmate
[02:43] <Ubuntu> XD
[02:45] <ssh_rdp> anyone with i810 graphic chip?
[02:45] <NealXGS> I change my nickname from Ubunu to NealXGS
[02:45] <NealXGS> I don't have
[02:45] <NealXGS> but i know it
[02:45] <HeroTsai> intel?
[02:45] <ssh_rdp> yes
[02:45] <NealXGS> i am hardware enthusiastic
[02:45] <NealXGS> i810
[02:45] <ssh_rdp> i got problem installing direct rendering
[02:45] <NealXGS> wow
[02:46] <NealXGS> long long ago
[02:46] <NealXGS> you mean on ubuntu?
[02:46] <NealXGS> i810..............you need to go to Intel Web
[02:46] <ssh_rdp> yes
[02:46] <ssh_rdp> it didnt help
[02:47] <NealXGS> Intel outside
[02:47] <NealXGS> XD
[02:47] <ssh_rdp> when i install the driver the xserver dont start again
[02:47] <ssh_rdp> what?
[02:47] <ssh_rdp> XD?
[02:47] <HeroTsai> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:48] <DVSoftware> i have a problem with my nvidia again :@
[02:48] <kenny_> emperon u still there
[02:48] <NealXGS> really?
[02:48] <NealXGS> which card
[02:49] <NealXGS> DVSoftware?
[02:49] <kenny_> eperon i have found a website that might help
[02:49] <DVSoftware> NealXGS, geforce 440go
[02:49] <NealXGS> OMG
[02:49] <NealXGS> NoteBook
[02:49] <Despeeh> any idea why my mozilla java plugins do not work?  i have installed java and I made link from javaplugin to my firefox plugins
[02:49] <Despeeh> but not working
[02:49] <DVSoftware> when i reboot once, it's fine
[02:49] <DVSoftware> when i reboot for the second time
[02:49] <HeroTsai> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <kenny_> emperon go here http://nickselby.com/articles/technology/?a=1807
[02:49] <DVSoftware> driver seems to be corrupted
[02:49] <DVSoftware> and x wont start
[02:50] <kenny_> That will you a tutorial hoome how to install your wireless cards
[02:50] <elmago> he guys back again
[02:50] <NealXGS> have you try the Nvidia Driver
[02:50] <NealXGS> Try it
[02:50] <NealXGS> DVSoftware
[02:50] <emperon> kenny_, ok
[02:50] <elmago> i have a problem with my ati drivers
[02:50] <DVSoftware> NealXGS, i am installing nvidia driver when it fails
[02:50] <elmago> can someone tell me how i get opengl running?
[02:50] <ssh_rdp> and i have problem with my intel card lol
[02:50] <DVSoftware> and after two reboots it fails again
[02:51] <NealXGS> cool
[02:51] <NealXGS> that's strage
[02:51] <DVSoftware> nvidia logo shows for a second
[02:51] <Despeeh> elmago what ati card do u have?
[02:51] <elmago> ati 9600 pro
[02:51] <Despeeh> what driver
[02:51] <DVSoftware> and crashes
[02:51] <DVSoftware> elmago, gfx card?
[02:51] <DVSoftware> ah
[02:51] <DVSoftware> ati
[02:51] <DVSoftware> you have to install fglrx driver
[02:51] <elmago> gfx card?
[02:51] <elmago> i have
[02:52] <elmago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <NealXGS> Geforce FX
[02:52] <elmago> thats what i have done
[02:52] <NealXGS> wait
[02:52] <NealXGS> i need to go
[02:52] <magneto> emperon: whats up - are you using wep or wpa or none of that?
[02:52] <NealXGS> Do any one know VIA VT6410?
[02:52] <elmago> i also intalled the ati driver from the ati hp
[02:53] <elmago> could it be that the ati driver works against the fglrx ?
[02:53] <Despeeh> have you configured your xorg surely right?
[02:53] <elmago> i hope so
[02:53] <Despeeh> what does your glxinfo say?
[02:54] <elmago> but i^m not sure
[02:54] <Despeeh> vendor string and render string ?
[02:54] <elmago> glxinfo
[02:54] <elmago> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:54] <elmago> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:54] <elmago> Error: unable to open display (null)
[02:55] <Despeeh> are you root now?
[02:55] <Despeeh> or not?
[02:55] <elmago> yes
[02:55] <Despeeh> dont be
[02:57] <zho> dear all...
[02:57] <ubuntu> algum?
[02:57] <zho> how to share internet connection to LAN?
[02:57] <ubuntu> Sou Brasileiro!!!
[02:57] <zho> i'm using ppp0
[02:57] <jim_> my volume controller on the desktop does not change the volume??? Can anyone help?
[02:57] <ubuntu> I'm brazillian
[02:58] <DVSoftware> zho easiest way would be to install firestarter firewall
[02:58] <ubuntu> I'm testing the uburuntu live CD
[02:58] <jim_> I've serched the documentation and tried the forums with no success
[02:59] <DVSoftware> wizard will ask you "do you wan't to ishare internet connection"
[02:59] <DVSoftware> share*
[02:59] <ubuntu> bye....
[03:00] <jim_> in my desktop volume controll properties, I do not have a PCM slider bar option
[03:01] <jowi> jim_, try rightclick on it and choose volume control. then see if that works for you. you can also see there on the top menu if you have another "device" to choose from.
[03:01] <Whitesocks> Im having a problem with the gdb command.... when i try to set a breakpoint at some line number, it doesnt set the breakpoint in the file Im trying to debug...instead it uses some library file: Breakpoint 1 at 0x80482d0: file ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S, line 10.
[03:01] <kenny_> how do i install new fonts in ubuntu
[03:02] <jowi> kenny_, place the fonts in your ~.fonts directory
[03:02] <jim_> Hi jowi - no the volume control does not work either - I have tried both devices with no success.
[03:02] <kenny_> i want it system wide jowi
[03:02] <jowi> jim_, do you have two soundcards?
[03:02] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: ask maybe in #gcc
[03:02] <Whitesocks> Anyone has any suggestions on how to make gdb set the breakpoint in the file im working on?
[03:02] <jim_> no I don't
[03:02] <Whitesocks> HappyFool: ok, ill try it.. thanks
[03:03] <jim_> I only have onboard sound
[03:03] <jowi> kenny_, /usr/share/fonts
[03:03] <Discipulus> what up?
[03:04] <jim_> but I have two devices in the list - c media electronics (OSS Mixer) and Intel ICH5 (ALSA Mixer)
[03:04] <jowi> did you have another device in the volume control to choose? (I have only one card but i have two "devices"; an extra one for alsa)
[03:04] <kenny_> I have cd to there, do i just copy and paste them in or do i have to create folders for different font types
[03:04] <jowi> jim_, try the alsa one
[03:04] <emperon> magneto,
[03:04] <jowi> kenny_, have a look in that folder. it is divided into font-types already
[03:05] <emperon> magneto, awake ?
[03:05] <jim_> II've tried them both - the ALSA one is definately the one I should be using
[03:05] <jim_> my multimedia systems selector is set to ALSA
[03:05] <jowi> jim_, is it muted?
[03:06] <jim_> no no - I have sound.  Sound works perfectly - I just can't turn it up or down :)
[03:06] <jowi> jim_, aaaaahhhhh
[03:06] <magneto> yeah u still there
[03:06] <magneto> emperon:
[03:06] <jowi> jim_, does it work with "alsamixer" in a terminal?
[03:06] <jim_> nope I've tried that too
[03:07] <emperon> magneto, ok now the wireless card symbol is removed from the networking gnome menu
[03:07] <kenny_> thanks jowi that worked
[03:07] <jowi> jim_, do you have a pcm control in alsamixer?
[03:07] <emperon> magneto, i can't even configure it
[03:07] <raven3x7> hello
[03:07] <jowi> kenny_, you're welcome
[03:07] <jim_> jowi, in Volume Control on the switches tab I can tick and untick a box called PCM.  That mutes and unmutes the sound
[03:07] <jim_> but I don't have a PCM slider anywhere
[03:07] <magneto> emperon:  are you using wpa or wep or no security?
[03:08] <emperon> magneto, no security
[03:08] <magneto> ok
[03:08] <magneto> emperon: iwlist
[03:08] <jim_> erm...
[03:08] <emperon> magneto, it has nothing to do with the security i suppose now
[03:08] <emperon> magneto, cant find any interface it says
[03:08] <jowi> jim_, then your soundcard or driver is wierd. you should be able to adjust that slider. have you searched the forums for your soundcard?
[03:08] <raven3x7> somebody suggested to me that i compile fluxbox with a certain confugure option(i believe it was thorapeutic). anyone might know which one it was?
[03:08] <magneto> just askin because of the wpa thing
[03:08] <raven3x7> configure
[03:08] <jim_> jowi, yes I have a PCM control in alsamixer but I can't turn it up or down
[03:08] <magneto> okay lsmod |grep ipw
[03:09] <kenny_> thanks guys for the help
[03:09] <kenny_> bye yall
[03:09] <jim_> yeah this is my last port of call :)
[03:09] <jim_> bye kenny
[03:09] <emperon> magneto, kenny gave me this link http://nickselby.com/articles/technology/?a=1807
[03:10] <jowi> bye kenny_
[03:10] <emperon> magneto, and iwlist doesn't even mention about eth1
[03:10] <magneto> thats ok - i can walk you through it real quick if you want
[03:11] <magneto> emperon:   lsmod | grep ipw
[03:11] <emperon> magneto, ok
[03:11] <magneto> what does it say
[03:12] <magneto> emperon: did you ignore the wpa parts of that tutorial?
[03:12] <emperon> notig
[03:12] <emperon> magneto, yes
[03:12] <magneto> ok :)
[03:12] <emperon> i just reboot
[03:12] <magneto> modprobe ipw2200
[03:12] <magneto> no need
[03:12] <emperon> FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found.
[03:12] <magneto> or did you already?
[03:13] <magneto> have u rebooted at all since installing the new driver?
[03:13] <emperon> magneto, twice
[03:13] <Kev0r> Trying to compile gnome-volume-manager, the configure works fine, the make gives errors at a certain pont, located at the pastebin now... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/990
[03:13] <magneto> sudo modprobe ipw2200
[03:13] <Kev0r> plz help me :P
[03:14] <edie> how to start apache/mysql and PHP, and how to stop them?
[03:14] <emperon> magneto,  the last thing i have done in the howto was dmesg | grep ipw. I have done all up to there
[03:14] <emperon> magneto, i suppose it includes some wpa
[03:15] <emperon> magneto, FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found.
[03:16] <DVSoftware> i have a problem compiling amaroK
[03:16] <emperon> magneto, i also realize thee missing occured after the remove-old. At that i checked it and can't see the wireless card in gnome networking menu
[03:16] <DVSoftware> from cvs
[03:16] <magneto> sudo apt-get remove wpasupplicant
[03:16] <DVSoftware> it's complaining that i need automake 1.6.1 or newer
[03:16] <Seveaz> DVSoftware, hint: apt-get build-dep amarok
[03:16] <Seveaz> that installs all build dependencies for the known version
[03:16] <DVSoftware> but i have installed automake 1.8
[03:17] <edie> how to start apache, my sql and PHP, and stop these services?
[03:17] <dimitris> How can i mount a fat32 partition so that all users can read and write not only root?
[03:17] <Seveaz> dimitris: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[03:17] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[03:17] <magneto> remove old is not the problem
[03:17] <DVSoftware> Seveas, you are missing the point :(
[03:17] <bartekp>  /list
[03:17] <Kev0r> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/990 Can anyone help me with this problem?
[03:18] <edie> dimitris: the url is really works(seveaz)
[03:18] <Seveas> DVSoftware, install automake1.6 too then
[03:18] <edie> how to start apache, my sql and PHP, and stop these services?
[03:18] <emperon> magneto, hold on i might have forgotten to write make install for ipw
[03:18] <magneto> :)
[03:18] <DVSoftware> i'm trying apt-get build-dep amarok now
[03:18] <Seveas> DVSoftware, automake versions are quite incompatible, that's why you can install several versions next to each other
[03:18] <fredforfaen> doesent anybody have the time to say hi to me?
[03:18] <jowi> edie, /etc/init.d/server start / stop / restart
[03:18] <fredforfaen> :(
[03:18] <Seveas> edie, sudo invoke-rc.d apache stop
[03:18] <Seveas> (or start, restart...)
[03:19] <magneto> DVSoftware: !backports
[03:19] <emperon> magneto, now i make installed and running modprobe ipw2200 , it just gives a blank output
[03:19] <dimitris> I have the partition mounted ok the way i want it (with greek filename support) i just want to be able to write on it as a user not only as root like it is now
[03:19] <bartekp> fredforfaen: hi (:
[03:19] <jowi> emperon, that means it was successful
[03:19] <DVSoftware> why the heck i would need libgtk1.2 for amarok when it's kde app
[03:19] <fredforfaen> :) hi bartekp
[03:20] <emperon> magneto, and wireless came back to the menu. Ohh ! how fool i am
[03:20] <fredforfaen> and high to everybody else
[03:20] <edie>  SEVEAS: does this mean can we call any program "using invkoe", i mean sql, also php...
[03:20] <magneto> emperon: :) attention to detail  it wll make u bang your head sometimes
[03:20] <Seveas> edie, php is part of apache
[03:20] <edie> they start together?
[03:20] <Seveas> mysql can be stopped/started in the same way
[03:20] <Seveas> edie, yes
[03:21] <LinuxDolt> why am i missing so many packages?  i can't seem to find bmp-skins, xmms, wine, and a host of others
[03:21] <Amaranth> !repositories
[03:21] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:21] <LinuxDolt> been there done that
[03:21] <Amaranth> LinuxDolt: you need universe and such
[03:21] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, enable universe, then you can see much more
[03:21] <Seveas> LinuxDolt: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:21] <edie> to be sure i will ask again( these 3 programs start together?)
[03:21] <LinuxDolt> as i said, been there done that
[03:21] <Amaranth> LinuxDolt: you've run apt-get update or clicked 'reload' in synaptic?
[03:22] <Seveas> edie, mysql not
[03:22] <Seveas> mysql can be stopped/started in the same way <--
[03:22] <LinuxDolt> yep
[03:22] <edie> ok thanx,
[03:22] <Amaranth> !info bmp-skins
[03:22] <Amaranth> doesn't exist
[03:22] <Seveas> backportds
[03:22] <Seveas> s/d//
[03:22] <Amaranth> !info xmms
[03:22] <Seveas> or actually hoary-extras
[03:22] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1917 kB, Installed size: 5988 kB
[03:22] <Amaranth> hrm
[03:23] <Amaranth> one of these days i'll actually get a good night (day, whatever) of sleep
[03:23] <HappyFool> sleep is overrated
[03:23] <edie> i want to know if apache starts on start up or not, i want to change this option, how to?
[03:23] <Whitesocks> Hmm, im having no luck with the gdb questions... example: "gdb test", "break 10"... gives me output "Breakpoint 1 at 0x80482d0: file ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S, line 10". It sets the breakpoint in some library file instead of test1... why?
[03:23] <LinuxDolt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer <-- this page tells me that there IS a bmp-skins package
[03:24] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: is test a C file?
[03:24] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: i.e., there's a test.c?
[03:24] <jowi> LinuxDolt, yes. there is
[03:24] <onur_> wireless is up and working, thx magneto
[03:25] <jowi> LinuxDolt, it is located in the universe repository
[03:25] <Whitesocks> HappyFool: Yes, and its in the same directory as the executable
[03:25] <LinuxDolt> jowi: well... it's missing
[03:25] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: did you compile with the -g option?
[03:26] <jowi> LinuxDolt, no. it's there. your sources.list file is not up-to-date
[03:26] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: I've just made a very simple and it works as I expect
[03:26] <jowi> !repositories
[03:26] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:26] <LinuxDolt> jowi: well, how do i get it up to date?
[03:26] <Whitesocks> Hmm, no i didnt compile with -g... ill try it right away
[03:26] <jowi> LinuxDolt, see the link ubotu pasted
[03:26] <LinuxDolt> i've already gone through what that link says
[03:26] <magneto> no prob onur_
[03:27] <magneto> emperon = onur?
[03:27] <LinuxDolt> !source.list
[03:27] <ubotu> LinuxDolt: Are you smoking crack?
[03:27] <Whitesocks> HappyFool: That solved my problem! Didnt know i had to use -g.... now it works. Thanks mate. :)
[03:28] <magneto> !who's your daddy?
[03:28] <ubotu> magneto: Wish i knew
[03:28] <LinuxDolt> if i were a drug addict, ubotu, i'd've smoked through a years supply by now in just one night
[03:28] <Seveas> LinuxDolt: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:28] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: cool
[03:28] <HappyFool> heh
[03:28] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: thanks
[03:28] <magneto> !wtf
[03:28] <ubotu> magneto: I give up, what is it?
[03:28] <HappyFool> wow, 969. pastebin is growing more and more quickly
[03:28] <Seveas> :)
[03:29] <Seveas> latest is 990
[03:29] <Seveas> we're almost at 1000
[03:29] <Seveas> oh, and this pastebin is set to never forget
[03:29] <edie> i want to know if apache starts on start up or not, i want to change this option, how to?
[03:29] <Seveas> edie, it starts on startup
[03:29] <Seveas> if you dont want that: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[03:29] <Seveas> (same goes for mysql)
[03:30] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: so where do i save it?
[03:30] <edie> how can i change it not to start?
[03:30] <luxem> hello, I need some help. Does anyone know why my telnet deamon doesen't start but i habe everything installed and open the tcp port 23 ?
[03:30] <Seveas> if you dont want that: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[03:30] <Seveas> ^-- edie
[03:30] <Seveas> luxem, why on earth would you want a telnet daemon?
[03:30] <Seveas> it's so incredibly insecure....
[03:30] <edie> seve: later i can restart it as you told, can i?
[03:31] <luxem> to open a telnet-server
[03:31] <HappyFool> he's feeling lucky
[03:31] <thenuke> luxem: open a ssh-server
[03:31] <thenuke> :)
[03:31] <Seveas> edie, sure, update-rc.d does not remove apache itself, you can start it with invoke-rc.d apache2 start anytime
[03:31] <LinuxDolt> nyargh!  where do i need to copy my new sources.list to?
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> what is the default username and password for webmin?
[03:31] <luxem> its only to remember the good old times (:
[03:31] <HappyFool> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <LinuxDolt> thanks
[03:32] <thenuke> spanglesontoast: I wonder if there is any, read the documents always first before asking IRC ;)
[03:32] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, it wants you to login as root, so you will need to set a root password
[03:32] <Fire> mpegopts is not an MEncoder option , how do I fix this error
[03:32] <Fire> it is a missing package, but I don't know what
[03:32] <edie> seve: thanx  a lot
[03:32] <spanglesontoast> so I have to make a root account on ubuntu to use webmin?
[03:32] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, yuo.
[03:33] <Fire> a rudimentry search of the forums. shows nothing, seems like it works for everyone
[03:33] <Seveas> that's why you should disable webmin when you don't need it
[03:33] <spanglesontoast> are you sure
[03:33] <Seveas> it's a very big security hole
[03:33] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, positive
[03:33] <spanglesontoast> can't I make a user when I get into
[03:33] <spanglesontoast> then disable it
[03:34] <Seveas> nope
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> still won't allow me to login
[03:37] <elmago> @Seveas could you help me? i didnt get my opengl working
[03:39] <Seveas> elmago, what makes you think I can help with that? :)
[03:40] <elmago> despeeh said that you know everything , so i thought you might could help
[03:40] <Seveas> hehe
[03:40] <elmago> could you?
[03:41] <Seveas> Unfortunately I'm not that good at X problems, but if you describe your situation a bit better I or someone else might be able to help
[03:41] <raven3x7> hmm vlc crashes in Afterstep when i fullscreen it
[03:42] <yonil> How can i use ls to display results by date  ?
[03:42] <Seveas> ls -t
[03:42] <elmago> ok i installed fglrx-driver and i reconfigured my x-server
[03:43] <LinuxDolt> ehh? E: Type '@deb-src' is not known on line 40 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <Despeeh> Seveas let me guide you a bit: elmago does not have device, screen and monitor sections in his Xorg.conf
[03:43] <yonil> Seveas, thanks, do you know how can i flip the results ? (from older to newer)
[03:43] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, argh, I forgot to correct that, sorry, change the @ into an #
[03:43] <elmago> thats what i was about to say ;)
[03:43] <Seveas> yonil, hmm, read the manpage :)
[03:43] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: kk
[03:43] <Seveas> it has a reverse-order flag
[03:43] <elmago> what?
[03:43] <HappyFool> or just 'ls --help'
[03:44] <Seveas> Despeeh, ouch
[03:44] <Despeeh> :)
[03:44] <Seveas> elmago, what kind of card do you have?
[03:44] <Fire> anyone use mencoder
[03:44] <elmago> ati 9600 pro
[03:44] <luxem> Yeah I have it done (: I had just connected from a Windows Me Machine to my Ubuntu Machine (:
[03:44] <luxem> via telnet
[03:44] <yonil> Seveas, -r yay thanks ;)
[03:45] <LinuxDolt> bmp-skins must truly not exist?
[03:45] <gorilla_> luxem, telnet or ssh?
[03:45] <luxem> telnet
[03:45] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, only in hoary-extras
[03:45] <Seveas> elmago, great :)
[03:45] <luxem> ok thx 4 support, bye
[03:45] <Seveas> I have a 9600 mobile
[03:45] <Seveas> I can give you my xorg.conf
[03:45] <gorilla_> luxem, that fine but not very safe, see if you can install and configure ssh...
[03:46] <elmago> yeah i have ah 9700 on my laptop
[03:46] <LinuxDolt> ahh, so, what do i add to that list to get that to work.  i like manually adding lines to files, i KNOW what it does then
[03:46] <elmago> ok
[03:46] <luxem> this thing with telnet was only a test
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> ?
[03:46] <elmago> you mean that would work?
[03:46] <Seveas> elmago, probably
[03:46] <luxem> quit
[03:46] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/953
[03:46] <elmago> ok i try
[03:46] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: try removing the 'z'
[03:47] <Thunder00> what's similar to getright in linux ?\
[03:47] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: maybe 'tar tf <filename>'
[03:47] <spanglesontoast> still don't work
[03:47] <equex> should xorg.conf and XF86Config-4 be identical ? appears some apps reads from one and some from the other
[03:47] <spanglesontoast> without the z or using tf
[03:47] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: what's the file's name? .tar.gz ? or .tar.bz2?
[03:47] <elmago> overwrite it?
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> webmin-1.220.tar.gz
[03:48] <Thunder00> what's a good program for downloads? for resuming downloads and such ?
[03:48] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: hmm. what does 'file webmin-1.220.tar.gz' say?
[03:48] <thomerz> Thunder00, d4x or wget
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:48] <Seveas> elmago, backup your own xorg.conf first :)
[03:49] <Thunder00> thomerz thanks
[03:49] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, what's the output of: file webmin*.tar.gz
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:49] <Despeeh> ya elmago, propably you will come here othervice only with screen or bithX :)
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> I reckon
[03:49] <HappyFool> odd. i wouldn't have thought file would invoke tar
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> it's corrupting
[03:49] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, guess so...
[03:50] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, btw: webmin is in the repositories...
[03:50] <elmago> @Seveas : you think that will work i mean i have no touchped nor a mobility card
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> yes
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> but seveas
[03:51] <Seveas> elmago, you can substitute the touchpad part with your mouses part
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> it didn't work
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> when I had a root account
[03:51] <elmago> ok
[03:51] <oonoon> hi, my wifi card is now well installed ; when i boot the system, it takes much time at the line 'configuring the network' ; is that normal ?
[03:51] <HappyFool> equex: i don't have an XF86Config-4 -- only xorg.conf
[03:52] <Goek> how do i make a keyboard shortcut to a application?
[03:52] <thomerz> yes oonoon, if you have configured your card for dhcp, and there is no dhcp server available
[03:52] <HappyFool> equex: i think you'll only have the XF86* file if you upgraded from warty to hoary
[03:52] <Goek> i wanna have a desktop shortcut to 3ddesktop
[03:52] <jowi> oonoon, depends of what you mean by a long time. mine takes about 3 seconds
[03:52] <equex> HappyFool: hmmm. i have a clean hoary
[03:52] <oonoon> jowi > maybe 1 minute, something like that
[03:52] <Goek> i know what commands i need to use, but not how to execute them thru a keyboard shortcut
[03:53] <onur_> oonoon, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuringnetwoktooslow
[03:53] <oonoon> ouhouh, thanks onur_
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> just been hacking my Ubuntu desktop -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/27386-mix.jpg
[03:53] <jowi> oonoon, if it tries to connect wirelessly i'd say it would depend on your signal strength and quality of the signal + encryption
[03:53] <Despeeh> grubconf is only in wartys repos, but not in hoarys?
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> hows that for a massive change
[03:54] <oonoon> jowi > im very close to the router, the signal is excellent, it cant be that
[03:54] <HappyFool> equex: any ideas where it came from? try maybe 'dpkg -S XF86Config-4' (or XF86config-4, whatever the name is)
[03:54] <Seveas> onur_, read what ubotu says
[03:54] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[03:54] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:55] <onur_> Seveas, ?
[03:55] <onur_> !ubuntuguide
[03:55] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:55] <xerox> Hi.  Do anybody have a clue of how the "Places" menu work?  Sometime the windows partition shows up there, some other time it doesn't.  Do you know what it could be the reason?
[03:55] <jowi> oonoon, close to the router means nothing if you have devices distrurbing it (as wireless phones, wireless keyboard/mouse, neighbours routers)
[03:56] <onur_> Seveas, i see
[03:56] <Seveas> xerox, if it is mounted it shows up
[03:56] <Zedman> hallo
[03:56] <xerox> Seveas, it doesn't right now :-(
[03:56] <Seveas> xerox, if it is in /etc/fstab with user option it will always show
[03:56] <equex> HappyFool: i think XF86config-4 appeared after i install ATI drivers for 9200
[03:56] <equex> the ATI installer writes to that file
[03:56] <Seveas> xerox, if it is mounted *with user option* it shows up
[03:56] <xerox> Seveas, OK, let me check.
[03:56] <LinuxDolt> i may FINALLY have this thing done right...
[03:56] <Zedman> is there somebody how could help me tp set up an ftop server with vsftpd ?
[03:57] <xerox> Seveas, seems so: "/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    rw,user,noauto,umask=0222       0       0"
[03:57] <Blissex> that "rw" is not a good idea...
[03:57] <jowi> oonoon, my first suggestion would be to change the router channel and turn off encryption to see if you get fast connect. once you have that; add encryption.
[03:57] <xerox> Blissex, neevermind, it does not work anyway.
[03:58] <LinuxDolt> NOOO!
[03:58] <HappyFool> equex: ah. maybe use the ATI driver packaged by ubuntu instead
[03:58] <xerox> Blissex, dr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 65536 2005-08-02 10:41 windows
[03:58] <LinuxDolt> wine and bmp-skins both are still missing :(
[03:58] <HappyFool> equex: i think you can find info here: (ubotu will say more)
[03:58] <HappyFool> !ati
[03:58] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <jowi> LinuxDolt, did you type 'sudo apt-get update' before trying to grab it?
[03:59] <LinuxDolt> jowi: aye
[03:59] <oonoon> jowi > ok, i ll try that
[03:59] <xerox> Seveas, any idea?
[03:59] <drednik> hi. any pointers on getting sound to work on an integrated intel video / sound card on a gateway laptop. i've tried lots of things, to no avail.
[03:59] <equex> xerox: shouldnt that be RO,user,noauto,umask=0222 ? 0222 means read only
[04:00] <equex> not RW
[04:00] <Seveas> xerox, hmm
[04:00] <LinuxDolt> jowi: and when i read the output it looks like it grabbed everything...
[04:00] <Meldarion> Hi, i've tried Ubuntu live-cd but then there always comes a text: "ohci-hcd 0000:00:13.0 Unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help."
[04:00] <cavediver> Anyone know of any program in Ubuntu for creating ansi-art, for bbs-screens ?
[04:00] <Seveas> xerox, does it show up in places -> computer?
[04:00] <Meldarion> and it stays there and i cant do anything.
[04:00] <equex> HappyFool: alright ill try uninstlling ati ,reset xserver and install ubuntu ati drivers
[04:00] <Seveas> Meldarion, yes
[04:00] <equex> because my X is hosed as well
[04:01] <xerox> Seveas, yup as "30G Hard Drive: 30G Media"
[04:01] <kemik> i got some fglrx troubles, can anyone look and see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/991   ?
[04:01] <Seveas> boot with noacpi and/or noapic
[04:01] <xerox> Seveas, the times when it appeared under "Places" it was called "windows", tough.
[04:01] <Meldarion> i cant type any text there.
[04:01] <jowi> LinuxDolt, i give you my sources.list. it works because i just tried to install bmp-skins and it worked without problem.
[04:01] <Seveas> xerox, is it in the places menu when it isn't mounted?
[04:01] <HappyFool> equex: you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to get a more-or-less working xorg.conf (without accelerated ati drivers)
[04:02] <Meldarion> or should what i should do to be able to write commands?
[04:02] <xerox> Seveas, you mean in "Places -> Computer" ?
[04:02] <LinuxDolt> jowi: send away
[04:02] <equex> HappyFool: that was what i was meaning
[04:02] <Zedman> !amule
[04:02] <ubotu> Zedman: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:02] <equex> or thats what i meant, rather.
[04:03] <Seveas> xerox, in Places
[04:03] <xerox> Seveas, when unmounted it's not in "Places" but it's called "30G Hard Drive" in "Places -> Computer"
[04:03] <Seveas> xerox, hmm
[04:03] <reka> kemik: you running warty or hoary?
[04:04] <Seveas> I though I finally understood the behaviour of that menu, but apparently not
[04:04] <Seveas> sorry
[04:04] <xerox> Nevermind.  Anyone else know?
[04:04] <Meldarion> Seveas, how can i boot with noacpi and no apic ?`
[04:06] <kemik> reka:  hoary
[04:06] <equex> HappyFool: do i need to manually remove all ATI files manually first, before i install ubuntu ATI drivers ?
[04:07] <reka> kemik: and when did this happen?  after you tried to install your drivers?
[04:07] <HappyFool> equex: i'm not sure; it's probably best to do so
[04:07] <kemik> reka:  and its xorg-driver-fglrx that driver im using
[04:07] <HappyFool> equex: does the driver not have an 'uninstall' option?
[04:07] <kemik> reka:  yes, it's like this when im using "fglrx" in xorg.conf
[04:07] <reka> kemik: so you followed the wiki?
[04:07] <equex> HappyFool: no
[04:08] <equex> or i dont know actually
[04:08] <equex> i saw someyihng on the net about going after each file
[04:08] <equex> something*
[04:08] <equex> delete 10 files here, 2 files ther etc
[04:08] <ACSpike> I have a question concerning locales, in the debian or ubuntu installer I think I remember a screen where I am asked to choose which locales to generate. I monolingual english so I always just choose C locale. but now I would like to test some software in other locales, how can I generate other locales after the fact?
[04:08] <HappyFool> equex: i believe the nvidia provided .sh or .run file has uninstall; i'm not familiar with ati's driver
[04:09] <kemik> reka:  no the wikipage i found is in italian ;|
[04:09] <reka> !ati
[04:09] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <reka> kemik: i mean that one.
[04:09] <max> hi guys
[04:09] <HappyFool> ACSpike: at a guess 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[04:09] <max> what's the status of breezy ?
[04:09] <kemik> reka:  and i also had to add Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[04:10] <ACSpike> HappyFool: I'll give a try
[04:10] <HappyFool> max: see /topic
[04:10] <kemik> reka:  well, that's what ive done :)
[04:11] <reka> kemik: so you can use 'ati' or 'vesa' fine?  it's just when you try fglrx that it does this?
[04:12] <hendo> hi
[04:12] <kemik> reka:  yeah. and i still get a performance increase (from 250fps to 1200 fps in glxgears) .. it's just bothering me
[04:12] <sobersabre> hello
[04:12] <hendo> hi
[04:12] <kemik> reka:  i dont like Warnings :)
[04:12] <sobersabre> what's up with breezy ?
[04:12] <hendo> i am only new here
[04:13] <HappyFool> hendo: welcome
[04:13] <sobersabre> hendo: hola!
[04:13] <hendo> thanks
[04:13] <kemik> reka:  "ATI driver version 8.12.10 is available in breezy, which should fix this problem + have a decent performance improvement", think i should try to add Breezy repos and install atidrivers fromthere?
[04:13] <reka> kemik: wait a sec.. you can actually boot into X using the fglrx drivers?
[04:13] <kemik> reka:  yes
[04:13] <hendo> this is really good this ubuntu
[04:13] <sobersabre> when is breezy to be released?
[04:13] <hendo> better than xp windows
[04:13] <kemik> sobersabre:  october
[04:13] <keikoz> october
[04:13] <reka> kemik: er i wouldn't do that if i were you.
[04:13] <Seveas> sobersabre: A new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.
[04:13] <reka> !breezy
[04:14] <apokryphos> !breezyschedule
[04:14] <ubotu> it has been said that breezyschedule is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[04:14] <sobersabre> and is it usable ?
[04:14] <apokryphos> sobersabre: no
[04:14] <hendo> it is a bit hard to follow first
[04:14] <reka> heh....guess the message is too long
[04:14] <sobersabre> ok
[04:14] <Random_Sindrom> sobersabre: breezy october 05
[04:14] <sobersabre> thanks, Sindrom... you are Random indeed :)
[04:14] <reka> kemik: then where are you getting the warning?
[04:15] <kemik> reka:  in the Xlog file
[04:15] <sobersabre> ok then... see you all later on
[04:15] <fredforfaen> hehe reka
[04:16] <Goek> does anyone know how to make a keyboard shortcut to an application? like if i push ctrl+key it opens my app?
[04:16] <reka> kemik: hmm, not sure sorry.
[04:16] <kemik> reka:  alright.. wel it works so i'll just wait for breezy release
[04:17] <herpules> has anyoen tried ubuntu on a tochiba satellite?
[04:17] <herpules> ....just looking to get to some info on what to expect
[04:19] <wouterlabeeuw> I've got a problem with playing dvd's on ubuntu hoary ...
[04:19] <kemik> !tell wouterlabeeuw about restrictedformats
[04:20] <kemik> wouterlabeeuw:  or download videolan... the VideoLan Client is probably the best mediaplayer there is !
[04:20] <kemik> wouterlabeeuw:   www.videolan.org
[04:20] <Geist|Patrick> hi
[04:20] <alexis_> hi there
[04:20] <wouterlabeeuw> thanks
[04:20] <apokryphos> kemik: is that nonfree?
[04:20] <Geist|Patrick> where can i modify the screen resolution settings?
[04:20] <herpules> if videolan doesnt work, try mplayer
[04:20] <alexis_> i have a qustion concerning dual boot
[04:21] <reka> Geist|Patrick: sys > prefs > resolution
[04:21] <Geist|Patrick> i only can choose there 640x48085Hz
[04:21] <apokryphos> !resolution
[04:21] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:21] <reka> !fixres
[04:21] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:21] <othernoob> hi, has anyone experience installing win98 on vmware5?
[04:21] <kemik> apokryphos:  its opensource and free afaik
[04:21] <reka> Geist|Patrick: go there.  if you need help with that, ask again in here.
[04:22] <apokryphos> kemik: if it's that good it should definitely be in multiverse.. hm
[04:22] <apokryphos> or Universe
[04:22] <kemik> apokryphos:  and i really think videolan should be the client of choice in ubuntu instead of totem
[04:22] <reka> it's in universe
[04:22] <apokryphos> Totem is pretty bad; nothing new there
[04:22] <alexis_> i have xp and ubuntu installed on separate hard drives but cant get the system to aske me which OS to start
[04:22] <herpules> totem blows
[04:22] <apokryphos> !info videolan
[04:22] <kemik> apokryphos:  i've tried tonnes of clients, videolan is the best for both windows and linux
[04:22] <reka> apokryphos: package is called 'vlc'
[04:22] <apokryphos> reka: under what name?
[04:22] <neofreko> anyone know how to solve issues related to unable to install lib pango 1.0?
[04:22] <apokryphos> ah
[04:23] <MartySkitch> I'm using Firefox 1.06 and have installed the JRE and JDK v1.5 and can not get the java plug-in to work on Firefox anyone else having trouble?
[04:23] <kemik> u bettar! ;)
[04:23] <kemik> !tell MartySkitch about java
[04:23] <reka> kemik: OOI, does it support frame movement? ...i.e. sort of like quicktime's capability where you can go back/forward frame-by-frame using the arrow keys.
[04:24] <reka> *quicktime player's
[04:24] <neofreko> I also have problems with repos .. some server are unable to be accessed thus I cannpt install firefox and other app
[04:24] <kemik> reka:  OOI? i *hate* quicktime, it's an awful player :)
[04:24] <kemik> reka:  but i dont know if thats supported, never needed that function :)
[04:24] <reka> out of interest
[04:24] <Choubaka> Quicktime is just weird.
[04:24] <Despeeh> MartySkitch people in debian channel have that same problem , there is surely people who can advice you
[04:25] <reka> heh.  it's not perfect, i agree...but that feature s pretty cool
[04:25] <Choubaka> And wtf is it with fullscreen being a Pro feature? :D
[04:25] <neofreko> is there any one be kind enough to share his/her soures.list with me? :)
[04:25] <reka> neofreko: post your sources.list to a pastebin
[04:25] <herpules> apple = gay
[04:25] <neofreko> reka: okay
[04:26] <reka> neofreko: a sample one can be found here: paste/ubuntulniux.nl/38
[04:26] <apokryphos> VLC looks nice. Not the prettiest UI, but looks decent enough. Cool.
[04:26] <Choubaka> herpules: Don't be provocative.
[04:26] <Geist|Patrick> i run the scribt, but nothing changed
[04:26] <herpules> just stating a fact
[04:26] <Geist|Patrick> since i installed the 8.14.13 driver from ati
[04:26] <cavediver> apokryphos: did you install vls-gnome, it has a nice ui?
[04:26] <Geist|Patrick> i am unable to switch the resolution
[04:26] <Geist|Patrick> oh wati...
[04:26] <apokryphos> cavediver: sounds like it would make it worse :P
[04:26] <Geist|Patrick> i havent restarted x yet
[04:26] <Geist|Patrick> sorry
[04:27] <MartySkitch> Despeeh:  Thanks I will ask over there
[04:27] <reka> lol
[04:27] <Choubaka> herpules: No.
[04:27] <cavediver> apokryphos: really ? are you on KDE ?
[04:27] <kemik> apokryphos:  it's skinnable
[04:27] <apokryphos> cavediver: heh, nah, I'm joking -- thanks. If it uses GTK then I can make it use my kde/qt theme, so that's great. Thanks. :)
[04:27] <Choubaka> herpules: You were stating an opinion, and you were trolling. :/
[04:28] <herpules> no matter where you go there are people that defend apple, w=even when they do stuff like not inclufe "full screen" in a media player
[04:29] <Choubaka> herpules: They do weird stuff, yes.
[04:29] <Choubaka> But they manage to come up with a lot of good stuff too.
[04:29] <neofreko> reka: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/993
[04:29] <herpules> stupid stuff
[04:29] <wizo> sup peepz
[04:29] <Choubaka> herpules: You've never even used Apple products. :)
[04:30] <herpules> I have a powerbook around here somewhere
[04:30] <apokryphos> cavediver: is it meant to use gtk now automatically?
[04:30] <wizo> im having trouble with my apache2 to work
[04:30] <Choubaka> herpules: I have one too, and it's wonderful.
[04:30] <wizo> i changed my port to 8080, did port forwarding, changed ports.conf, but it doesnt work
[04:31] <Slipaway172> i have a VIA EPIA V mobo with a c3 cpu and i would like to know if there are drivers for the video card because the video is slow.
[04:31] <herpules> it is pretty nice, but it has its short commings too
[04:31] <reka> neofreko: ah, kubuntu ... better ask in the #kubuntu channel for a sample sources.list
[04:31] <Choubaka> I considered getting a PC laptop with Ubuntu, but I wanted to see if all the fuss about apple proucts is even partially based on reality, I got a powerbook instead
[04:31] <neofreko> no, my problme was basically from ubuntu packages :)
[04:32] <reka> neofreko: at least ... i *think* they're different
[04:32] <Choubaka> And I have to say I've been positively impressed.
[04:32] <jowi> Slipaway172, i have a epia m2-10000 and it is using the "via" driver but dri is not functional (slow framerates in 3d)
[04:32] <apokryphos> neofreko: what's the problem?
[04:33] <reka> Choubaka: i'm actually thinking of purchasing myself, how do they compare price-wise to PCs?
[04:33] <Choubaka> herpules: Sure. Windows has its flaws too, and so does Ubuntu and every other thing on the planet.
[04:33] <Choubaka> reka: Well, they are pretty expensive.
[04:33] <jowi> Slipaway172, it is using the CLE266/Unichrome chipset
[04:33] <Choubaka> I got mine used, and it was still pretty costly.
[04:33] <neofreko> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main libgnomecanvas2-0 2.10.0-0ubuntu1 [99.6kB] 
[04:33] <neofreko> Fetched 99.6kB in 0s (450kB/s)
[04:33] <neofreko> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgnomecanvas/libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[04:33] <cavediver> apokryphos: i think so
[04:33] <Choubaka> But I don't regret my decision.
[04:33] <reka> Choubaka: hmm, might be a problem then...budget's limited
[04:34] <herpules> but windows and ubuntu or any other linux distro dont make the rediculous claims that apple does
[04:34] <apokryphos> neofreko: remove all of the "us." from your sources.list
[04:34] <apokryphos> neofreko: then sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <herpules> I like apple products, I just hate apple marketing
[04:34] <Slipaway172> i just want it not to lag during normal use, web browsing and so on
[04:34] <reka> apokryphos: do kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos?
[04:34] <Choubaka> reka: if you don't care about only 32Mb of display memory, then the 12" iBook may be good for you.
[04:35] <neofreko> you guys rocks :)
[04:35] <Choubaka> reka: I suggest you look through all alternatives. :)
[04:35] <herpules> they are going to have to get back to reality very soon with their prices being x86 now
[04:35] <jowi> Slipaway172, well, if you have the same chipset than I; make sure Driver "via" is enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:35] <apokryphos> reka: it depends. The hoary version will have the exact same ones apart from the CD (which would vary between Ubuntu users perhaps anyhow)
[04:35] <reka> Choubaka: i've seen it.  i need a bit of a larger display.
[04:35] <TOTMS> hi
[04:35] <apokryphos> reka: if you get kde updates then you'll have extra repositories on Kubuntu
[04:35] <reka> or should that be, i want a larger one. :)
[04:35] <Choubaka> I think 12" is just perfect.
[04:36] <Choubaka> for a laptop at least.
[04:36] <reka> apokryphos: i see, thanks
[04:36] <TOTMS> i had no idea ubuntu was so popular :p
[04:36] <neofreko> on more problem :(
[04:36] <Choubaka> then you can plug in an external one for some more space, like I do.
[04:36] <neofreko> libpango is uanble to be installed
[04:36] <apokryphos> TOTMS: indeed it is; see distrowatch.com -- even though it's not the most accurate source :P
[04:36] <neofreko> short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-arabic-fc.so')
[04:36] <reka> Choubaka: what about those mini-macs i've heard about?
[04:36] <wizo> anyoen can help me out with my apache?
[04:37] <wizo> i changed my port to 8080, did port forwarding, changed ports.conf, but it doesnt work
[04:37] <ags06> can anyone help me with opening real player files
[04:37] <Choubaka> reka: Depends on what you want.
[04:37] <wizo> restarted apache as well
[04:38] <reka> Choubaka: workstation mostly .... programming etc.
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> ags06: just install realplayer  then run realplayer and select the file from within realplayer
[04:38] <Choubaka> reka: Hmm.
[04:38] <ghost^|patrick> re
[04:38] <ags06> will try it
[04:38] <neofreko> darn, solved .. i was using previously fetched package :(
[04:38] <Slipaway172> but does it require installling files and does it work correctly under the gdm, like normal office uses?
[04:38] <ghost^|patrick> could u give me that link again
[04:39] <ghost^|patrick> i wrecked my xconf
[04:39] <Choubaka> reka: Well, I can't really say what you should get.
[04:39] <ghost^|patrick> and now i cant do anything
[04:39] <ghost^|patrick> :(
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> ags06: you can even select a url from within realplayer
[04:39] <ghost^|patrick> !resolution
[04:39] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:39] <neofreko> *ubuntu rocks! :D
[04:39] <reka> Choubaka: guess it's off-topic anyway. :)
[04:40] <reka> Choubaka: i'll start googling etc.
[04:40] <Choubaka> reka: yeah. :)
[04:40] <jowi> Slipaway172, no. the via driver is now included in xorg. no installation needed. all works except 3d accelleration.
[04:40] <ags06> i installed it but the real player doesn't run
[04:40] <Slipaway172> and playing video files?
[04:41] <ags06> i see it in the process windows
[04:41] <jowi> Slipaway172, works great
[04:41] <Slipaway172> like dvds and such
[04:41] <ags06> but nothing apears on screen
[04:41] <Slipaway172> ok
[04:41] <jowi> Slipaway172, i only have 1ghz and it is barely using 40% cpu playing divx and less playing dvds
[04:41] <ags06> realplayer used to work fine in knoppix
[04:42] <AudiAt3r> hiya all..;)
[04:42] <ags06> anyone with a similar problem
[04:42] <reka> Slipaway172: what's your system specs?
[04:42] <Slipaway172> im going to make me a low power and low noise to silent ubuntu computer. i have mine running ipcop and well i just bought my a wired router yesterday
[04:42] <Slipaway172> the via?
[04:42] <AudiAt3r> can anyone help me out with ftpd? I have everything set, but the passw is unrecognized on loggin
[04:43] <reka> Slipaway172: CPU speed, RAM
[04:43] <Slipaway172> i have the c3 800-900mhz and 256mb pc 133
[04:43] <CGA> hi there every1
[04:44] <jowi> Slipaway172, yeah the via's are great for that. since i use no 3d my 1ghz 512mb ram with 3,5" HDD and CD-burner combo works stable with a 200W PSU. but i'm going to replace it with a fanless PSU though.
[04:44] <reka> Slipaway172: well, i'm not sure of what gnome's req.s are ... but if you're experiencing desktop sluggishness, it might be worth it trying out a more lightweight desktop environ.
[04:45] <jowi> Slipaway172, your via will be enough to play dvds. just use the "via" driver in xorg.conf
[04:45] <Slipaway172> ok
[04:45] <Slipaway172> what desktop environment u use?
[04:46] <jowi> Slipaway172, actually Oroborus. but it is just because i want alot of neat keyboard-bindings. I would suggest Windowmaker for your machine instead of gnome.
[04:46] <unsec1> Hello. Having problems with my Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[04:47] <unsec1> Trying to follow this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=Logitech+QuickCam+Express
[04:47] <Slipaway172> oh ok, ill try that tomorrow when i get more time
[04:47] <wizo> i changed my port to 8080, did port forwarding, changed ports.conf, restarted, but it doesnt work
[04:47] <reka> Slipaway172: gnome :)  but you might want to try out xfce ... easy to install.
[04:47] <wizo> my apache2 ports
[04:47] <unsec1> After doing: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:47] <unsec1> I get this error Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.10-2-686
[04:47] <unsec1> Am I missing something?
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mez
[04:47] <ohay> I've installed some extra packages which seem to be using GTK but not Gnome's theme does anyone know why?
[04:48] <Mez> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mez: congrats on MOTU etc...
[04:49] <reka> unsec1: you using hoary?
[04:49] <wizo> for my apache2 ports i changed my port to 8080, did port forwarding, changed ports.conf, restarted, but it doesnt work, anyone canhelp?
[04:49] <unsec1> Yes
[04:49] <Mez> ty Kamping_Kaiser
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> havent spoken to you since you got it.
[04:50] <elvirolo_> hi all
[04:50] <reka> unsec1: er, i thought the default kernel was 2.6.10-5, which *does* have it's headers in the repo
[04:51] <elvirolo_> i installed GNU solfege from universe, but it won't start up, it says it can't find module named gtkhtml2 (it's written in python) ... but I can't find any python bindings for it
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi elvirolo_
[04:51] <elvirolo_> !can anyone help me?
[04:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, elvirolo_
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:51] <elvirolo_> :-D
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> :-P
[04:52] <elvirolo_> anyone ... _else_ ;) ?
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have the package installed?
[04:52] <elvirolo_> what package?
[04:52] <Slipaway172> so to install xfce, just go to package manager and download xfce and plugins to my likings, install , reboot?
[04:53] <unsec1> Thanks reka. Just did apt-cache search. there is linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686 2.6.10-34.3 and linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 2.6.10-34.3.
[04:53] <elvirolo_> Slipaway172, you don't have to reboot
[04:53] <unsec1> Does it matter which?
[04:53] <reka> Slipaway172: install the xfce4 package
[04:53] <reka> Slipaway172: logout. then choose xfce form the sessions menu, login
[04:53] <reka> easy as that
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> Slipaway172: no the package manager downloads and install everything for you
[04:53] <jowi> Slipaway172, there is no need to reboot a linux system very often
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> elvirolo_: gtkhtml
[04:54] <levander> Anybody has noticed that nautilus doesn't let you write as much data to a DVD as k3b?
[04:54] <jonathan_> can anybody help with audio setup?
[04:54] <elvirolo_> Kamping_Kaiser, yes it is installed, but i think i need python bindings for it ... something like python-gtkhtml
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> levander: shouldnt really matter they both use the same libs
[04:55] <jonathan_> alsa and oss not working
[04:55] <Slipaway172> ok
[04:56] <levander> Linux_Galore: well, nautilus gives me an error when I try to put more than 4 GB on a DVD.  k3b gives me an error when I try to put me than 4.2 GB on a DVD.  They both do this before they actually start creating an ISO or the burning process.
[04:56] <jonathan_> i have ac97 audio form dell d800 laptop
[04:56] <Slipaway172> well i would reboot for the hell of it
[04:56] <lurah> i have tryed 3 days to get gftp. allways the same problem "E: Couldn't find package gftp"
[04:56] <Linux_Galore> levander: aaah its the same..... its the old 1024 bits = 1k thing
[04:57] <lurah> with command " sudo apt-get install gftp"
[04:57] <othernoob> does anyone here have vmware + a windows install on it + a floppy drive?
[04:57] <levander> Linux_Galore: you have tried what I'm talking about?  I'm getting the same errors time after time.
[04:57] <reka> lurah: it's in universe
[04:57] <reka> !tell lurah about repos
[04:57] <jonathan_> can anybody help with audio?
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> levander: yes what Im saying it K3B is doing a literal measurment using 1024bits were Nautlilus see's 1024bits as 1k
[04:58] <reka> jonathan_: do you get system sounds?
[04:58] <rob_cowie> Hi all
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> levander: same problem happens with Hardisks
[04:58] <jonathan_> yes i get system sounds!
[04:58] <unsec1> I answered my own question with a uname -a. I feel blonde today :(
[04:58] <jonathan_> only, i can't play mp3 or any sound files
[04:58] <unsec1> Or more likely grey.
[04:58] <reka> jonathan_: then what apps don't work?
[04:58] <rob_cowie> Does anyone have some time to spare to help me out with a wireless card problem?
[04:58] <lurah> reka. ok, i check that. thanks
[04:59] <reka> jonathan_: what app?
[04:59] <jonathan_> xmms and music player and totem...
[04:59] <dizzie> jonathan_, what sounddeamon did you pick?
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> levander:  4Gb in Nautilus is the same as 4.2Gb in K3B  its just the method of measurment
[04:59] <levander> Linux_Galore: so how does seeing 1024 bits versus seeing 1024bits as 1k matter?
[04:59] <jonathan_> enlightment?
[04:59] <reka> jonathan_: xmms: change output plugin to esound or alsa
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> levander: what 4 x 1024   and 4 x 1k
[04:59] <dizzie> jonathan_, esd?
[04:59] <jonathan_> yes!
[05:00] <reka> jonathan_: music player/totem: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:00] <Linux_Galore> levander: see the different
[05:00] <levander> Linux_Galore: but, it's not the same, I can always put an extra directory of video in in k3b, that nautilus won't let me put in there
[05:00] <reka> jonathan_: more info:
[05:00] <Linux_Galore> difference*
[05:00] <reka> !restricted
[05:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:00] <Linux_Galore> levander: its the same......
[05:00] <levander> Linux_Galore: 4028 == 4K
[05:00] <jonathan_> installing gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:01] <levander> Linux_Galore: if it's the same, why does k3b let me put extra files on a DVD?
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> levander: go try doing the math propely
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> properly
[05:01] <rob_cowie> anyone?
[05:01] <rob_cowie> please?
[05:01] <levander> Linux_Galore: you know what I mean by that math
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> levander:  4 x 1024 = 4.1 rouned up
[05:01] <shawnh> hi
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> rounded*
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> rob_cowie: try asking for specific help
[05:01] <shawnh> surrounded
[05:02] <reka> jonathan_: might want to install totem-xine while you're at it
[05:02] <LinuxDolt> i'm trying to get my backports from http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/ and i'm getting an authentication required error...
[05:02] <satirico> hay algn espaol por ah
[05:02] <shawnh> english here
[05:02] <jonathan_> ok mp3 is working!!
[05:02] <rob_cowie> ok - I have followed the instructions on the wiki and installed ndiswrapper correctly
[05:02] <shawnh> 30mbc
[05:02] <satirico> spanish
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> levander: K3B and Nautilus use the exact same DVD burning lib
[05:02] <satirico> spanish here
[05:02] <shawnh> male
[05:02] <jonathan_> wma don't work still
[05:02] <rob_cowie> Used it to install drivers for a D-Link DWL-G650 pcmcia wireless card
[05:03] <rob_cowie> ndiswrapper reports driver and hardware present
[05:03] <dizzie> jonathan_, you need the w32codecs
[05:03] <LinuxDolt> i'm trying to get my backports from http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/ and i'm getting an authentication required error... any help?
[05:03] <rob_cowie> however, the card is not available as a network
[05:03] <jonathan_> i installed w32codecs already
[05:03] <Mez> LinuxDolt, if you read the website you'd see why - read http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[05:03] <rob_cowie> some have reported that this card does work with ubuntu and ndiswrapper
[05:04] <jonathan_> i can't play any video file either
[05:04] <reka> jonathan_: install totem-xine
[05:04] <rob_cowie> kWifimanager says the card is disabled
[05:04] <reka> jonathan_: the gstreamer backend can be problematic
[05:04] <rob_cowie> any ideas?
[05:04] <reka> *the default gstreamer backend
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> levander:   4 x 1024 = 4.16  now if you round up to one decimal place you get 4.2  tada
[05:05] <jonathan_> it says it will remove totem-gstreamer when installing totem-xine
[05:05] <jonathan_> ok
[05:05] <reka> jonathan_: accept
[05:05] <Linux_Galore> levander: if go 4 x 1 as nautilus does I get 4
[05:05] <reka> jonathan_: it will replace totem-gstreamer, yes.
[05:05] <LinuxDolt> Mez: well, thank you.  i could not find that page no matter how hard i looked
[05:05] <jonathan_> done
[05:06] <shawnh> ok
[05:06] <jonathan_> working again!! thanks!!
[05:06] <reka> jonathan_: no probs. anything else? :)
[05:06] <shawnh> eh jonny
[05:06] <levander> Is it possible to tell k3b to create a temporary iso and not burn on the fly?
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> levander: yep
[05:07] <jonathan_> ok a couple questions..
[05:07] <levander> Linux_Galore: okay, how?
[05:07] <jonathan_> why is pppoe so slow?
[05:07] <Stormx> Hey guys
[05:07] <Stormx> Im awake!
[05:07] <levander> Stormx: go back to bed
[05:07] <LinuxDolt> nyargh!
[05:07] <jonathan_> and i cannot find wireless networks!
[05:07] <rob_cowie> noone?
[05:07] <rob_cowie> cheers guys - your a real help
[05:08] <shawnh> yes larah
[05:08] <rob_cowie> not
[05:08] <jonathan_> wireless seems not to be installed
[05:08] <reka> jonathan_: heh.  i have no idea about networking, sorry.
[05:08] <LinuxDolt> no matter what the frick i do i can not seem to get either wine OR bmp-skins packages
[05:08] <Stormx> levander: xD Its 4pm here and I just woke up.
[05:08] <LinuxDolt> !wine
[05:08] <jonathan_> will these changes allow me to pley dvd?
[05:09] <reka> Linux_Galore: wine's in universe, bmp-skins is in backports iirc
[05:09] <reka> whoops
[05:09] <reka> LinuxDolt: meant for you. :)
[05:09] <unsec1> I am getting an error when I ./quickcam.sh I posted the info on a link here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=289299#post289299
[05:09] <rob_cowie> k - i'll try aain
[05:09] <reka> jonathan_: no, need to install libdvdcss2 for that iirc
[05:09] <reka> jonathan_: which is in backports iirc
[05:09] <Seveas> rob_cowie, don't expect help with that attitude...
[05:10] <rob_cowie> after installing ndiswrapper and the win drivers for my D-Link card, I issued the command ndiswrapper -m
[05:10] <robertj> will their be gui config for WPA in Breezy?
[05:10] <rob_cowie> Hey -- if a bad attitude ets a response and polite asking doesnt
[05:10] <Stormx> Hey Seveas
[05:10] <Seveas> robertj, unfortunately not
[05:10] <rob_cowie> what do you expect?
[05:10] <rob_cowie> all I would like is some help
[05:10] <Seveas> robertj, it got deferred for breezy+1
[05:10] <Stormx> Guess what seveas! I helped people! xD
[05:10] <Linux_Galore> levander: you start k3b then click on Tools -> Copy CD  then when you get the burner window open in the "Options" section click on "Only create Image"  then select were to save the file to
[05:10] <Seveas> Stormx, great :)
[05:10] <Syco54645> does anyone know of a alternative repository that has more packages in it, because the standard ubuntu ones are very limiting
[05:11] <reka> rob_cowie: it's most likely the wireless gurus aren't active atm
[05:11] <jonathan_> ok and what about quicktime?
[05:11] <Zenon_> Do you guys prefer Gnome or KDE, and why? :)
[05:11] <robertj> Seveas: is it currently possible to get WPA working on hoary without compiling stuff from source?
[05:11] <Stormx> Seveas: Is there any kind of shortcut to resource manager, like Ctrl+Alt+Delete on windows
[05:11] <Seveas> Syco54645, Ubuntu universe has a lot :)
[05:11] <rob_cowie> is there any way to 'undo' what the cammand 'ndiswrapper -m' does?
[05:11] <Seveas> robertj, yes
[05:11] <robertj> Seveas: do you know of a URL that I should look at?
[05:11] <juanitto80> aqui tormundo habla ingles_
[05:11] <Slipaway172> and one last question for the day! right now im on ubunut on a ATXmobo and duron cpu. i would like to know if ubuntu will be able to boot correctly if i change out the mobo ,cpu,and ram and just put a epia in there? or will it just freak out and say cannot bott because there have been hardware changes since last boot? i have done this with a windows xp computer once and it wasent pretty.
[05:11] <Syco54645> Seveas, i have yet to find any that i wanted in there... qdvdauthor isnt there nor is valknut
[05:11] <Seveas> juanitto80, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol
[05:11] <juanitto80> nadias habla espa;ol
[05:11] <rob_cowie> reka: cheers
[05:11] <Random_Sindrom> yopi
[05:11] <Syco54645> Seveas, nor is the newest libc6
[05:12] <reka> jonathan_: quicktime should have been enabled for you with w32codecs
[05:12] <rob_cowie> reka: I'll try again later
[05:12] <Seveas> Syco54645, valknut -> dcgui-qt
[05:12] <Whistler> any ideas what should i use for video encoding to 3gp ?
[05:12] <Syco54645> Seveas, and it is up to 3.7 not 3.1
[05:12] <jonathan_> its not working inside firefox...
[05:12] <Stormx> Is there a shortcut to resource manager? Anyone?
[05:12] <Seveas> Syco54645, libc6 is the newest available at hoary release time
[05:12] <reka> rob_cowie: ok, then. just be patient... i know how frustrating it is though
[05:12] <Linux_Galore> levander: the file selector is under the "Images" tab
[05:12] <jonathan_> neither do realplayer files
[05:12] <reka> rob_cowie: search the forums/google while you wait
[05:12] <Seveas> Syco54645, after an Ubuntu version is released no version updates are made, it's called stable...
[05:12] <Syco54645> Seveas, so they cant update the repository between releases?
[05:12] <Seveas> Syco54645, you may have luck with backports
[05:13] <Syco54645> Seveas, i want to have unstable then
[05:13] <rob_cowie> reka: Am already trawling google
[05:13] <reka> jonathan_: you need a plugin to play media files in firefox
[05:13] <LinuxDolt> i'm just plain not getting my packages, no matter what i put into my sources.list
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> Whistler: divx or xvid is the go these days
[05:13] <Seveas> Syco54645, you don't want Ubuntu unstable - believe me :)
[05:13] <Syco54645> Seveas, where are the back ports?  i am just finding this package system very limiting
[05:13] <jonathan_> how can i install this plugin? i installed realplayer as said on their website but can open it
[05:13] <Seveas> Syco54645, use hoary-backports as section
[05:13] <Syco54645> Seveas, i came from gentoo where i had every package i could ever want to ubuntu where i have no packages
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> Whistler: there are wizards that will create a divx or xvid file for you
[05:13] <Seveas> jonathan_: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[05:14] <reka> rob_cowie: ubuntuforums.org and the mailing list are recommended as well
[05:14] <ZincX> eh.. u know a good partition manager ?
[05:14] <Syco54645> Seveas, and i am quite accustomed to linux not working by now... been on it for a few years
[05:14] <Seveas> robertj, there is something at wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[05:14] <Seveas> ZincX, gparted
[05:14] <ZincX> which is free?
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> jonathan_: just type  realplay
[05:14] <Whistler> i need to create 3gp movie
[05:14] <Whistler> not divx
[05:14] <Seveas> Syco54645, well, if you liked it that way, maybe you should go back to gentoo (no attack intended)
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> ?? whats a 3gp
[05:14] <levander> Galorthat wants to read the iso from a DVD drive.  I just want to create the ISO from a bunch of regular files on my hard disk, and then burn them to DVD after the ISO has been made.
[05:14] <Stormx> Seveas: I've asked in #GNOME, but they are unhelpfull, is there a way to edit the "Places" menu, at the top?
[05:15] <oonoon> when i boot on the shell, whats the command to run the graphic interface ?
[05:15] <Seveas> for Ubuntu stability comes before bleeding-edge-ness
[05:15] <Seveas> Stormx, no there is no way
[05:15] <Syco54645> Seveas, well i didnt much like the compile from source every time thing... was just annoying
[05:15] <Seveas> oonoon, it should start automagically
[05:15] <reka> jonathan_: you can install mozilla-mplayer
[05:15] <Syco54645> Seveas, when i use a deb file, is there a way to make it grab the dependencies
[05:15] <reka> for the plugin
[05:15] <ZincX> Seveas, is it free ?
[05:15] <Seveas> ZincX, yes
[05:15] <Stormx> And is there a shortcut to resource manager, like there is Ctrl + Alt + Delete in windows?
[05:15] <reka> jonathan_: for realplay, i've had better results using the official player
[05:15] <ZincX> ok
[05:15] <oonoon> Seveas > yeah i know, but i install nvidia drivers and it asks me to get out of X server
[05:15] <Seveas> Syco54645, no, you need apt for that
[05:16] <Syco54645> Seveas, besides the comminity is nicer here, much more helpful
[05:16] <Seveas> oonoon, please don't use drivers from nvidia.xom
[05:16] <Seveas> .com
[05:16] <Seveas> oonoon: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:16] <robertj> Seveas: MethodB looks ok
[05:16] <Syco54645> Seveas, is there a way that i can create my own repository for my own uses?
[05:16] <Seveas> Syco54645, true :)
[05:16] <oonoon> ok ok
[05:16] <oonoon> thanks Seveas
[05:16] <jonathan_> nothing happens when i write realpay
[05:16] <DVSoftware> Seveas, why not
[05:16] <levander> Linux_Galore: okay, I found an "Only Create Image" button on the Burn dialog.  Thanks for your help.
[05:16] <jonathan_> or realplay..
[05:16] <DVSoftware> i'm using that drivers
[05:16] <Seveas> Syco54645, sure, read them manpage for dpkg-scanpackages
[05:17] <jatos> hello
[05:17] <reka> jonathan_: then you don't have it installed.
[05:17] <Syco54645> Seveas, my harddrive crashed so i am willing to get ubuntu a honest try, it is just a little disheartening when programs that i use are not in the repos
[05:17] <jim_> anyone know how to set the "working derectory" when adding a shortcut in the menu?
[05:17] <Seveas> DVSoftware, well, it's an unsupported move. Using Ubuntu drivers gives you help in here :)
[05:17] <Syco54645> Seveas, ok i will read it
[05:17] <DVSoftware> my card doesn't work with ubuntu drivers
[05:17] <Whistler> so any programs for making 3gp movies?
[05:17] <DVSoftware> Whistler, use google
[05:17] <Seveas> Syco54645, almost all is in there, which one where you missing?
[05:17] <Stormx> Seveas: What is the file that controls the repositories for synaptic? I forgot, I'm gonna write it down now.
[05:18] <jonathan_> it's weird, i get a blank line?? i did install it, maybe the wrong way??
[05:18] <Seveas> Stormx, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:18] <robertj> Stormx: you can also edit it through Synaptic's gui
[05:18] <unsec1> "Replace kgcc with the command required for compiling kernels" you can specify the correct one with command (in bash): export CC=kgcc
[05:18] <unsec1> Which is the correct one in ubuntu?
[05:19] <reka> jonathan_: most likely :)
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> Whistler: http://www.mp3towav.org/GEAR-PRO-Linux/
[05:19] <Seveas> unsec1, ehrm, please don't compile the kernel yourself
[05:19] <robertj> unsec1: what are you compiling the kernel for
[05:19] <ZincX> how do i config lilo so that i can boot with windows ?
[05:20] <reka> jonathan_: http://www.real.com/linux/, http://www.real.com/moreinfo/playerplus_install.html?system=linux&pageid=linuxPage&pageregion=install_instructions&src=linux&pcode=rn&opage=linux
[05:20] <robertj> ZincX: why are you using Lilo instead of grub?
[05:20] <reka> jonathan_: iirc, you need to use sudo to install
[05:20] <ZincX> robertj, .. i installation automatically installed lilo it self
[05:20] <jatos> anyone here what I laugh>
[05:21] <jatos> ?
[05:21] <robertj> Isn't grub the default bootloader?
[05:21] <jonathan_> ok thanks!! I'll try again!
[05:21] <unsec1> Zenon "How long is a piece of string?"
[05:21] <reka> jonathan_: so: 'sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin' (run that in the directory where you dloaded the bin file)
[05:21] <Seveas> robertj, it is, but some people like lilo better
[05:21] <robertj> Seveas: yes, I understand, but he said it instaleld lilo automatically
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> hmm reading mencoder will also create 3gp stuff
[05:22] <Seveas> robertj, in some cases grub cannot be installed and the installer will install lilo instead
[05:22] <ZincX> yes.. that happened to me
[05:22] <robertj> Seveas: ohh
[05:22] <Zenon_> unsec1: I don't understand the analogy, my question was more specific :)
[05:22] <robertj> just curious, what causes that?
[05:22] <jonathan_> thanks again!
[05:22] <reka> unsec1: lol, that was a delayed response :)
[05:23] <Seveas> robertj, various things can cause that :)
[05:23] <robertj> but the short answer is to edit your lilo configuration file and run lilo again to make the changes happen
[05:23] <unsec1> Seveas, robertj I was following thishttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=logitech+webcam
[05:23] <reka> Zenon_: gnome ... probably cos i'm so used to it
[05:23] <robertj> ohh
[05:23] <reka> Zenon_: i also found some KDE apps buggy in the past
[05:23] <unsec1> And I am getting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=289299#post289299
[05:23] <Seveas> unsec1, ah, you aren't compiling the kernel :)
[05:24] <robertj> unsec1: the hsort method or the long one?
[05:24] <andpoi> Hey Guys.
[05:24] <jim_> Has anyone here used cedega?
[05:24] <reka> Zenon_: for some reason, i also find gnome more simplistic and less cluttered
[05:24] <andpoi> Same here reka
[05:24] <ZincX> so anyone know how to config lilo ?
[05:24] <unsec1> Zenon. I think it comes down to peronal preference. I like gnome but I also mess around with Fluxbox.
[05:24] <andpoi> I tried KDE, went to gnome.
[05:24] <reka> Zenon_: these are only my opinions though of course
[05:24] <Zenon_> Which is more advanced as far as a desktop enviornment goes? Closer to mass-acceptance?
[05:24] <Seveas> unsec1, cat /proc/version
[05:24] <jim_> I need to create shortcuts for cedega but I can't set the "working path"
[05:24] <Seveas> unsec1, what does that say?
[05:25] <reka> andpoi: i have to sue KDE at uni.
[05:25] <reka> whoops
[05:25] <Kyral> Jeez, now I feel pressure
[05:25] <reka> *use
[05:25] <andpoi> why?
[05:25] <reka> :D
[05:25] <Kyral> I built a GDesklets package from Breezy Src
[05:25] <reka> andpoi: either KDE, or console ... fedora boxes
[05:25] <andpoi> I used my nice new ubuntu CD's to install ubuntu
[05:25] <Kyral> and people are wanting it :D
[05:25] <andpoi> GOing to give them out to the programming class at school
[05:25] <Seveas> Kyral, contact mez to get it in the backports..
[05:25] <Mez> ..?
[05:26] <Seveas> hi Mez :)
[05:26] <Kyral> Mez look at the main backports forum
[05:26] <andpoi> Anyone know how to get gnomad2 running?
[05:26] <andpoi> has anyone used it?
[05:26] <reka> andpoi: nice :)
[05:26] <Mez> Kyral, your best bet is the mailing list
[05:26] <Kyral> its just a streight breezy src of the package
[05:26] <unsec1> Linux version 2.6.10-2-686 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-6ubuntu1)) #1 Thu Jan 27 13:39:43 UTC 2005 Seveas
[05:26] <Kyral> no changelog adjustments
[05:26] <Seveas> Mez, you caught a cold? 'wabes' :)
[05:26] <andpoi> eh I'm ot
[05:26] <andpoi> #ubuntu @ efnet is where I'm going
[05:27] <Mez> Seveas, you ever heard of Jabberwocky?
[05:27] <Kyral> I forgot how to modify the Changelog :P
[05:27] <heien> hi all
[05:27] <Seveas> Mez, yes
[05:27] <Mez> Kyral, dch
[05:27] <Seveas> Kyral, dch
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> Whistler: might want to look at this too its a freebie -> http://www.freesharewarecenter.com/t@b_ZS4_for_linux-27669.html
[05:27] <heien> I have a problem to install the dvdripper.could anyone help me?
[05:27] <Kyral> Can't I just use nano?
[05:27] <Kyral> or Gedit?
[05:27] <Kyral> I know HOW to I don't know what to put in :P
[05:27] <Mez> kyral - export editor=nano
[05:27] <Seveas> Kyral, EDITOR=nano dch
[05:28] <heien> Could anyone tell me what to do to solve this problem? :
[05:28] <LinuxDolt> ok...  WHY am i not getting packages?
[05:28] <znh> heien: what's your problem? - I just joined
[05:28] <heien> Flgende pakker har uopfyldte afhngigheder:
[05:28] <heien>   transcode: Afhngigheder: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050427-0.0) men den bliver ikke installeret
[05:28] <heien>              Afhngigheder: libavifile-0.7c102 (>= 1:0.7.43.20050224-1) men den bliver ikke installeret
[05:28] <heien>              Afhngigheder: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) men 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 forventes installeret
[05:28] <heien>              Afhngigheder: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) men 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 forventes installeret
[05:28] <heien>              Afhngigheder: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) men 1.0.1-1 forventes installeret
[05:28] <heien>              Afhngigheder: libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.1.0) men 1.0.1-1 forventes installeret
[05:28] <Kyral> and why isn't the export command being found?
[05:28] <heien> Sorry for the danish, but its apt-get output
[05:29] <znh> heien: I don't understand
[05:29] <reka> heien: don't paste in here please
[05:29] <Seveas> heien, read the topic, get a clue and come back in an hour
[05:29] <sebest> any ppc user?
[05:29] <Kyral> Mez, the export command isn't being used
[05:29] <Kyral> ie, I cannot find it
[05:29] <Mez> Kyral, it's part of bash
[05:30] <Kyral> nm, I was trying a SUDO :D
[05:30] <sebest> I'm looking for the settings for using a Mac Keyboard, any idea?
[05:30] <naaninn> Hello! I got a Problem, and 'd like to repair it before i give that PC back to my girlfriend.
[05:30] <Kyral> but what do I put in the changelog?
[05:31] <naaninn> It is about GNome: It won't auto-mount inserted DVDs to the Desktop.
[05:31] <bedi> how i hear streams whith rhythmbox ?
[05:31] <bedi> whataa hell plugin a need to do this ?
[05:32] <unsec1> heien, If you are new to linux. Read the bit at the top. Please don't paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:32] <Kyral> and there goes a third person who wants the package
[05:32] <LinuxDolt> can ANYONE tell me why i am missing packages, no matter what mirrors i try to use?
[05:32] <Kyral> I'm gonna modify the changelog and then recompile it so it looks like proper backport
[05:33] <naaninn> may someone help me with autostarting DVDs in Gnome?
[05:33] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: what packages?
[05:34] <reka> LinuxDolt: not meaning to insult, but did you make sure [1]  you really saved the sources.list file? [2]  sudo apt-get update/reload in synaptic?
[05:34] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: i don't know what other packages i may be missing, but i am for certain missing wine and bmp-skins
[05:34] <reka> naaninn: sys > prefs > removable
[05:34] <LinuxDolt> reka: do you take me for a moron?  of course i did
[05:35] <apokryphos> !info wine
[05:35] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[05:35] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: you haven't enabled Universe
[05:35] <LinuxDolt> yes i have.
[05:35] <jowi> reka, apokryphos: he even got my sources.list that is proven to work which have got universe in it
[05:35] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: pastebin your sources.list then, please
[05:35] <bedi> plz, i can't hear streams on Rhythmbox =(
[05:35] <naaninn> Thats the problem: It says, that i would start Totem if i put in a video-DVD.
[05:35] <LinuxDolt> ok
[05:36] <naaninn> ... but it doesnt start it ... "totem dvd://"
[05:36] <naaninn> .. it won't even put a Icon on the desktop after the insertion.
[05:36] <oonoon> what would you recommend me as a multimedia player (mp3, dvd, ...) on ubuntu ?
[05:36] <jowi> oonoon, i use totem-xine
[05:36] <naaninn> I dont think there is this kind of Multimedialayer, oonoon.
[05:36] <bedi> oonoon: for kde amarok, gnome xmms or rhythmbox will make a good work :)
[05:37] <naaninn> totem is great for dvd, amarok for mp3
[05:37] <reka> naaninn: check this: storage tab: enable mount removable media when inserted.
[05:37] <oonoon> jowi, bedi > too much choice :)
[05:37] <LinuxDolt> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/995
[05:37] <naaninn> this option is set too, reka
[05:37] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[05:37] <jowi> oonoon, totem-xine works for both mp3/dvd. rhythmbox = music only. xmms = music only but has plugins for most others as well.
[05:38] <reka> naaninn: hmmm, not sure what else to try, sorry
[05:38] <bedi> the most complete is amarok... (qt)
[05:38] <naaninn> .. like me .. but thanks for the help, reka :-)
[05:38] <oonoon> jowi > ok th
[05:38] <oonoon> thx
[05:38] <apokryphos> bedi: well, not just qt; kde too ;-)
[05:39] <bedi> B)
[05:39] <naaninn> do you know whats the "noouto"-option in fstab next to the dvd-drives mean,reka?
[05:39] <Slipaway172> let me reask. would ubuntu boot correctly if i take out the mobo and put a different one in it?
[05:39] <naaninn> (noauto)
[05:39] <bedi> kdeerghh-libs
[05:39] <znh> !backports
[05:39] <ubotu> well, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[05:39] <Choubaka> naaninn: not automatically mounted on boot.
[05:39] <apokryphos> bedi: I believe that's the incorrect spelling. kdebootifullibs, of course.
[05:39] <ubuntu> Sorry i have got a little question, how install ubuntu from a live cd to a hard drive ?
[05:39] <naaninn> oh! than it is not the think i thought of :-)
[05:39] <bedi> apokryphos: lol
[05:39] <apokryphos> ubuntu: not supported, yet.
[05:39] <naaninn> (thing)
[05:40] <ubuntu> oki sorry for my stupid question
[05:40] <apokryphos> ubuntu: not stupid at all :), and we're here to help
[05:40] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: STILL not working
[05:40] <ubuntu> thx ;)
[05:40] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: what's the error?
[05:40] <Stormx> ubuntu: Live CD is just for testing, you need an install CD
[05:41] <bedi> apokryphos: i need a plugin to plat streams on rhythmbox... gstreamer ?
[05:41] <bedi> s/plat/play
[05:41] <ubuntu> oki i think i will dl it because i'me boring of my version of windows very unstable
[05:41] <Slipaway172> lol windows is VERY unstablew
[05:42] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: package isn't available, it is referred to, it has no installation candidate
[05:42] <apokryphos> bedi: no idea; worth getting. Get the other random music stuff too; w32codecs gstreamer0.8-mad (or something similar)
[05:42] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: summarized, of course
[05:42] <Slipaway172> thats what MS should of called it, either windows xp TESTING or windows xp UNSTABLE
[05:42] <Slipaway172> kinda like how debian did
[05:42] <Choubaka> Slipaway172: Nah.
[05:42] <reka> Slipaway172: don't get too carried away. :)
[05:42] <Whistler> how do i use powernowd ?
[05:42] <Choubaka> That would resemble Debian's branches too mch
[05:43] <unsec1> I am still lost. To repeat for people joining. I am getting an error: "Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions."
[05:43] <Choubaka> and Debian unstable is very rarely unstable :)
[05:43] <jowi> bedi, rhythmbox use gstreamer as standard. if you want to know what plugins there are for gstreamer open synaptic and search for gstreamer. that'll give you some ideas of what is supported
[05:43] <unsec1> cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.10-2-686 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-6ubuntu1)) #1 Thu Jan 27 13:39:43 UTC 2005
[05:43] <Choubaka> Slipaway172: Nay, You'll want to call it "Windows eXPerimental"
[05:43] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: hmm, on purging it and reinstalling I get an error too -- so not just you.
[05:43] <Choubaka> Of Debian's repositories Experimental is really the bad one.
[05:44] <unsec1> Apparently in Red Hat I can fix it with:  export CC=kgcc
[05:44] <Slipaway172> yep
[05:44] <Choubaka> Because even horribly broken stuff can go to it :)
[05:44] <ZincX> grub install <-- what does that command do ?
[05:44] <Choubaka> It only has to compile.
[05:44] <coolblue> sometimes i land up in grub shell........help me plz
[05:44] <unsec1> But this isn't Red Hat! More detail here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=289299#post289299
[05:44] <moike> does ubuntu ppc have perfectly working java and flash that are up-to-date?
[05:44] <reka> ZincX: *cough* installs grub
[05:44] <Choubaka> moike: no.
[05:44] <moike> thanks
[05:45] <kemik> java and flash support is not 100% :(
[05:45] <Choubaka> moike: That's only because Java and flash are non-free though.
[05:45] <reka> coolblue: grub shell?
[05:45] <LinuxDolt> !extras
[05:45] <ubotu> [extras]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories
[05:45] <coolblue> yes grub text mode
[05:45] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: hm, actually, with adding that extra repository you have (the wine one), it isntalls fine
[05:45] <Choubaka> moike: so you can't blame Canonical. :)
[05:45] <b0xen> Can somebody tell me what exactley I am braking if I remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:45] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: well, the download is ultra-slow, but past that, seems to be fine...
[05:45] <Slipaway172> my moms computer runs xp and HOLY CRAP! dosent allow right click,wont open menus,locks up every 30 mins, SLOW,shift is locked so everything is in caps, and has no viruses or spyware, wierd
[05:45] <ZincX> reka, i can understand that from the command.. but what do i have to after i type that command?
[05:46] <Choubaka> Slipaway172: Neh. :P
[05:46] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: well, wth is it NOT working on my end?
[05:46] <Slipaway172> i swear it does
[05:46] <reka> ZincX: are you reinstalling grub after a windows install?
[05:46] <Choubaka> My record of windows crashes was seven in 15 minutes.
[05:46] <jowi> Slipaway172, sounds like a hardware conflict (if no spyware was found)
[05:46] <Choubaka> then it got better...
[05:46] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine ; sudo apt-get install wine ?
[05:46] <Kyral> where the hell is the dch command
[05:46] <Choubaka> For a whil.
[05:46] <ZincX> no.. my installer installed lilo.. i want grub install.. what should i do reka  ?
[05:46] <Slipaway172> i have checked that too
[05:47] <coolblue> sometimes i land up in grub shell........
[05:47] <Choubaka> coolblue: we know
[05:47] <Choubaka> just say "boot"
[05:47] <Choubaka> should boot using defaults
[05:47] <Choubaka> iirc.
[05:47] <jowi> Slipaway172, wipe/re-install. i'm glad i have that stuff 1 year behind me :-)
[05:48] <coolblue> so how do i boot into ANY os
[05:48] <Choubaka> eh, well
[05:48] <Choubaka> you boot <os/kernel name> I guess
[05:48] <Slipaway172> i did that 18 times
[05:48] <Choubaka> or you could select it from the meny. :P
[05:48] <reka> ZincX: oh, i'm not exactly sure actually
[05:48] <Choubaka> menu
[05:48] <Slipaway172> evertime it is something different
[05:48] <coolblue> win kernel name plz??
[05:48] <ZincX> k
[05:48] <misfit_toy> howdy, sometimes I have to kill ESD for certain things to play sound, like some dvd's etc...but when I /etc/bin/esd to bring it back up I hear the esd "ding sounds" that say it's started, but I never get ESD sound again...any ideas?
[05:48] <Choubaka> coolblue: eh.
[05:49] <Choubaka> no need for that
[05:49] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: now it says it can't stat it...
[05:49] <Slipaway172> ive even had geeksquad look at and they had no explaniation
[05:49] <Choubaka> but how do you end up in grub shell anyway?
[05:49] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: start what? What does it say exactly?
[05:49] <Choubaka> a simple menu should pop up
[05:49] <coolblue> thats the prob
[05:50] <coolblue> no menu after fc4 install....tried ubuntu.same result
[05:50] <jowi> misfit_toy, make sure gnome -> system -> prefs -> sound : enable at startup + gnome -> system -> prefs -> multimedia : output sink : esd
[05:50] <DVSoftware> Slipaway172, windows is evil
[05:50] <b0xen> Can somebody answer a quick package management question for me?
[05:50] <Whistler> bOxen
[05:50] <beat-> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 on VMware Workstation 5 but i'm having a problem because the installer does not recognizes the virtual disk created by VMware
[05:50] <Whistler> ask
[05:50] <gedas> hello, maybe you can tell me, why gnome runs so slow on my ubuntu system? Gnomo worked fine on Slackware and Debian. 384MB RAM, 500MB SWAP and 700mhz CPU. Thnx
[05:51] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos:  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.sourceforge.net hoary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_hoary_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:51] <synnfest> I'm having a problem with firefox, it locks up, and it only seems to happen on ad-intensive pages.  Anybody have any idea?
[05:51] <b0xen> Whistler: What exactley am I braking when I remove the ubuntu-desktop package? I want to remove certain things that are part of the base install, like evolution, but it won't let me without also removing ubuntu-desktop.
[05:51] <oonoon> who has a good /etc/apt/sources.list ? mine seems not to contain everything it should
[05:51] <misfit_toy> jowi, yep, those are set
[05:52] <jowi> b0xen, it is safe to remove. it is a dummy package.
[05:52] <Whistler> b0xen i removed evoliution and i still have my desktop
[05:52] <jowi> misfit_toy, then i do not know.
[05:52] <b0xen> jowi: it says if you remove ubuntu-desktop it will brake certain update features
[05:52] <Heijmen> synnfest: install adblock extension?
[05:53] <b0xen> Whislter: I'm not talking about YOUR desktop. I'm talking about a package called ubuntu-desktop.
[05:53] <Whistler> its dummy package
[05:53] <jowi> b0xen, i do manual updates so that does not bother me. removing ubuntu-desktop is safe.
[05:53] <beat-> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 on VMware Workstation 5 but i'm having a problem because the installer does not recognizes the virtual disk created by VMware
[05:53] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: you should have mentioned that error earlier :)
[05:53] <b0xen> jowi: Okay but say I like using Ubuntu Update Manager? It will still work right?
[05:53] <jowi> b0xen, yes
[05:54] <b0xen> Ok cool. Thanks a lot!
[05:54] <synnfest> adblock's installed, and it's helped a little....but once it freezes, every open page of firefox locks...so my only option is to write down every address that locks it and do it one instance at a time....is there a faster way?
[05:54] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: something's wrong wth your sources.list file, or the formation of that repo you have, I'd imagine
[05:54] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: though you should first do the gpg stuff
[05:54] <Heijmen> synnfest: have you tried a good adblock filter-file? or ca you give me a URL of a page that causes a lockup?
[05:54] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell LinuxDolt about gpg
[05:55] <beat-> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 on VMware Workstation 5 but i'm having a problem because the installer does not recognizes the virtual disk created by VMware!!!!
[05:55] <Whistler> i upgraded gimp to 2.2 but i still have 2.0 and 2.2 folders
[05:55] <beat-> can anyone help me?
[05:55] <Whistler> can i remove 2.0
[05:55] <Whistler> ?
[05:55] <Seveas> Whistler, where did you install 2.2 from?
[05:55] <Seveas> !gpg
[05:55] <ubotu> gpg is probably at http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add
[05:56] <synnfest> Heijmen: It does it on photobucket occasionally....but I can hardly recreate it
[05:56] <Whistler> update manager
[05:56] <synnfest> I thought it might have something to do with leaving my laptop on all the time, so I shut it down for about 20 minutes and started it back up, it worked for maybe 5 minutes,and it was back to it
[05:56] <Heijmen> synn: sounds odd :( might be more of a javascript thingie?
[05:57] <synnfest> think so?
[05:57] <Marve> how can I be sure that ubuntu can find my pcmcia-card?
[05:57] <synnfest> makes sense....
[05:57] <Seveas> Marve, what kind of card is it?
[05:57] <Marve> zyxel b120
[05:57] <Heijmen> synn: not sure but you can try turning off javascript and check if the problem persists
[05:57] <flodine> anyone on openbox
[05:57] <Seveas> Marve, what is that? wireless?
[05:57] <Heijmen> synn: doesn't mean i know how to fix it tho :(
[05:58] <Marve> wireless yeah
[05:58] <Marve> ZyAIR B120 IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA Adapter (5.0V)
[05:58] <Seveas> well, Ubuntu will find it whether it is usable depends on the chipset
[05:58] <Marve> okay
[05:58] <Seveas> Do you happen to know which chipset it uses Marve  ?
[05:58] <Marve> hmm no
[06:00] <jowi> !repositories
[06:00] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:00] <unsec1> Seveas welcome back: Result of cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.10-2-686 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-6ubuntu1)) #1 Thu Jan 27 13:39:43 UTC 2005
[06:00] <Whistler> how do i remove skype?
[06:01] <jowi> Whistler, apt-get remove skype
[06:01] <Seveas> unsec1, hmm, you should update that kernel
[06:01] <Seveas> the latest in hoary is 2.6.10-5
[06:01] <unsec1> Compile a kernel?
[06:01] <synnfest> Well, I disabled javascript and tried to recreate it...it locked up on ravematch.com
[06:01] <Seveas> unsec1, no, just apt-get upgrade
[06:02] <Whistler> jowi skype is unaviable via apt-get
[06:02] <Marve> how can I enter a WEB encryption key to acces the WLAN?
[06:02] <Whistler> i installed it from deb package
[06:02] <Seveas> Marve, the installer will ask
[06:02] <jowi> Whistler, then you didn't install the .deb from skype.com did you? it works fine for me
[06:02] <Marve> the installer?
[06:02] <Whistler> jowi i installed http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[06:03] <jowi> Whistler, ubuntuguide works but is somewhat flawed. i do not know how to help you
[06:04] <Whistler> k
[06:04] <Whistler> i installed skype via http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#skype so how do i remove it now?
[06:04] <unsec1> I'll give that a go. apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 ? Seveas
[06:04] <cavediver> Hi. Whare can I disable F1 showing the help ? It messes up some application. Tryed Keyb shortcuts, but couldn't find it
[06:04] <Heijmen> synn: ravematch.com seems to scroll poorly for me while other sites scroll quite smoothly... dunno what it is :(
[06:04] <flodine> can i use a tar file on ubuntu
[06:05] <tucoz> Hi, I have installed ubuntu on my fujitsu siemens laptop. Everything except sound is working nice. But, I just noticed that I get a seg.fault in /usr/bin/on_ac_power on boot. Anyone with an idea how to solve this?
[06:05] <Marve> Heijmen: using firefox?
[06:05] <flodine> little help
[06:05] <Heijmen> marve: yeah
[06:05] <synnfest> think it could be a hardware issue?
[06:05] <flodine> can i use a tar file on ubuntu?
[06:05] <Marve> Heijmen: type about:config
[06:05] <tucoz> probably
[06:05] <Marve> in address bar
[06:05] <tucoz> But it doesnt crash or hang
[06:05] <Whistler> i installed skype via http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#skype so how do i remove it now?
[06:05] <kkathman> flodine: yes
[06:05] <Heijmen> marve: ok
[06:06] <Marve> and find smooth scroll
[06:06] <Heijmen> synn: possibly? still, it shouldn't happen
[06:06] <unsec1> Or should it be the linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 ? Seveas
[06:06] <Heijmen> marve: ok but i don't really need it, more trying to help out synnfest :)
[06:07] <tucoz> Earlier when I did a full update with apt-get I got a hang/crash on boot with the same error. Then I had to boot with acpi=off.
[06:07] <kkathman> Whistler: Launch skype....press the help....this will take you to their support. Type in "uninstall" and read the directions/
[06:07] <Coss> Ive burned ubuntu onto a disc now, the file "ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso" and it wont boot from it
[06:08] <Seveas> unsec can't you use apt?
[06:08] <tucoz> Do you think that a custom built kernel can help me with this issue, and in that case, is there some easy way of building a ubuntu kernel. Like 2.6.12
[06:08] <Seveas> unsec1, just install linux-686 - that will keep you up-to-date all the time
[06:08] <Whistler> k
[06:08] <Marve> Heijmen: Sorry, I cant find that option
[06:09] <Marve> don't know if it's there :S
[06:09] <Heijmen> marve: doesn't matter :)
[06:09] <Marve> ok
[06:09] <Coss> Someone can help me?
[06:09] <synnfest> smooth scroll was off, I turned it on, it's still locking up.  I'm at a total loss.
[06:09] <Marve> whatabout Coss?
[06:09] <Stormx> Coss: You don't do it like that
[06:10] <Marve> restart browser
[06:10] <kkathman> Coss how did you burn the disk?
[06:10] <Coss> restart?
[06:10] <Coss> just normally
[06:10] <Stormx> Coss: a .iso needs to be burnt in a different way
[06:10] <heien> Hey
[06:10] <Coss> how then?
[06:10] <Marve> as image
[06:10] <Poromies> tucoz: you can get 2.6.12 kernel from breezy repos
[06:10] <Coss> as image?
[06:10] <Stormx> Coss: You need a program like Easy CD Creater
[06:10] <kkathman> you have to raw write it with Disk Juggler or Nero
[06:10] <Stormx> Coss: Yes, as an Image
[06:10] <Coss> Nero cant?
[06:10] <Stormx> Coss: It should be able to.
[06:10] <Coss> kk ill check again then
[06:10] <kkathman> Nero does work
[06:10] <heien> Can anyone reconnigze the errors at this site, trying to install transcode : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/996
[06:11] <Poromies> Coss: with nero choose "burn cd from iso file" or something
[06:11] <Coss> kk good ill check that a little later then
[06:11] <Derkommissar> i  hav   a hyge problem, my ubuntu box boots and runs fsck but it says that it found some errors to run it mannually to press ctrl-d or enter root password, when i try to type anything the keyboard doesnt work at that point...... can anyone help. i even got a usb keyboard to see if it would work, but it doesnt
[06:11] <Stormx> Coss: yes do that. Otherwise, you can use WinRAR to uncompress it, and then move the files over
[06:11] <tucoz> Poromies, ok. If I install that, will that add a boot option i grub, such that I can still have access to the old one?
[06:11] <Derkommissar> }++++++
[06:11] <Derkommissar> }++++++?_
[06:11] <Shiroi[notebook] > hello all
[06:11] <Stormx> Derkomissar: I don't know >_<
[06:11] <Stormx> Hey Shiroi[notebook] 
[06:11] <Poromies> tucoz, sry what was your problem again with boot parameters?
[06:12] <Derkommissar> sorry im in a cybercafe
[06:12] <unsec1> After doing apt-get install linux-686 "linux-686 is already the newest version."
[06:12] <Derkommissar> the keyboard got stock in some letters
[06:12] <Stormx> unsecl: Problem?
[06:12] <tucoz> Poromies, when I boot I just noticed that I get a segment fault in /usr/bin/on_ac_power.
[06:12] <Coss> Stormx, that works?
[06:12] <unsec1> cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.10-2-686 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-6ubuntu1)) #1 Thu Jan 27 13:39:43 UTC 2005
[06:12] <Stormx> Coss: What works?
[06:12] <tucoz> Poromies, when I hit ctrl-alt-f1
[06:12] <Stormx> Coss: You're best bet is finding the "Burn from image" or "Burn from ISO" in nero.
[06:12] <Coss> Stormx, uncompress and burn the files on it and just boot from it
[06:13] <Seveas> unsec1, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin please
[06:13] <Poromies> tucoz: sry misunderstood that line.. its safe to update kernel, apt will add the necessary lines to grub and doesnt delete older kernel configs while at it
[06:13] <Coss> Hey you need to burn it as bootable?
[06:13] <Stormx> Coss: Do the above. You're best bet is finding the "Burn from image" or "Burn from ISO" in nero.
[06:13] <tucoz> Poromies, ok, thanks.
[06:13] <arathald> how do i log in as root?
[06:13] <Derkommissar> i have a usb key,,, can i make a usb key bootable
[06:13] <test0r> is there somebody who has an really goog source list for me or know where I can get one ???
[06:13] <test0r> good
[06:13] <Stormx> arathald: Root account is disabled by default.
[06:13] <arathald> Stormx: is there any way to enable it?
[06:13] <Seveas> arathald, sue
[06:13] <Coss> Stormx, i need to burn as bootable?
[06:13] <Seveas> sure
[06:13] <Seveas> but don't
[06:13] <Stormx> arathald: Ask Seveas
[06:13] <Seveas> you don't need it in Ubuntu :)
[06:14] <tucoz> Poromies, do you know how I could find what package on_ac_power is in?
[06:14] <znh> Derkommissar: yeah, your bios has to support it + the usb's mbr should be written
[06:14] <Stormx> Coss: What do you mean by that?
[06:14] <Shiroi[notebook] > arathald, use sudo if you don't need something REALLY hard
[06:14] <Stormx> Coss: It shouldn't matter.
[06:14] <Stormx> Coss: But it will be booted, yes.
[06:14] <omeg> Any of you guys know how I can play modplug files on Linux? (e.g. .MOD, .IT, .S3M, etc.)
[06:14] <Derkommissar> znh, i dont think it does..... what can i do ?
[06:14] <Stormx> omeg: yes, XMMS does it.
[06:14] <Stormx> omeg: So does Rhythm Box.
[06:14] <rob_cowie> hi all: Can anyone tell me how to disable ACPI?
[06:14] <Poromies> tucoz: have no idea
[06:15] <omeg> I'll see if I can grab those, thanks :)
[06:15] <tucoz> Ok, np. Thanks anyway
[06:15] <crashd> rob_cowie: if you edit the scripts in /etc/acpi you can change the functionality
[06:15] <crashd> or unload the kernel module
[06:15] <crashd> or compile a kernel without it in
[06:15] <arathald> Seveas: I need to work with some ntfs files- it wont let me cd into the dir in bash, and i cant look at it in the graphical interface. I can sudo ls but that doesn't help me at all
[06:15] <znh> Derkommissar: does your bios support it
[06:15] <Stormx> omeg: Rhythm box should already be installed. Get XMMS with synaptic.
[06:15] <Derkommissar> how can ubuntu get stock like that in the boot prosses, this is a major bug
[06:15] <Coss> Stormx, so only thing i need to know is that i have to burn it as image?
[06:15] <Stormx> Coss: Yes.
[06:15] <Poromies> tucoz: if you ran into trouble with updating kernel, press ESC when entering grub and choose your previous kernell
[06:15] <Seveas> arathald, then mount the ntfs drive correctly
[06:15] <Stormx> Coss: I use Roxie Easy CD Creator. Works brilliant for burning ISO's
[06:16] <tucoz> Poromies, ok, I'll remeber that.
[06:16] <arathald> Seveas: lol- ok how do i do that then?
[06:16] <Seveas> arathald, for the easy solution: unmount them and remove them from /etc/fstab
[06:16] <rob_cowie> crashd: how do I unload the kernel module and prevent it from being loaded on reboot
[06:16] <oonoon> where can i find all the codecs for the media players ?
[06:16] <Coss> Stormx, doesnt that cost money?
[06:16] <Seveas> arathald, then download and run http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:16] <Stormx> Coss: Dunno.,
[06:16] <unsec1> But after  ./quickcam.sh Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions. Will do Seveas should be there now
[06:16] <crashd> rob_cowie: if you recompile the kernel without acpi in
[06:16] <arathald> mount
[06:16] <crashd> i assume you can turn it off without recompiling the kernel
[06:16] <Stormx> Coss: Any good CD burner should burn CD Images (isos)
[06:16] <arathald> mt
[06:16] <rob_cowie> right...
[06:16] <Shiroi[notebook] > after install ubuntu, i wanted to play dvd, but Totem says: Totem cannot play DVD: there were no decoders
[06:16] <rob_cowie> !
[06:16] <ubotu> rob_cowie: No idea
[06:16] <crashd> but i dont know how to do it off the top of my head sorry
[06:16] <test0r> is there nobody who has a really good source list for apt ?
[06:16] <rob_cowie> I must point out - Im no linux expert
[06:17] <rob_cowie> how do I recomiple the nernel?
[06:17] <crashd> you googled for it ?
[06:17] <CGA> how do i put my soundcard in full duplex?
[06:17] <Seveas> unsec1, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[06:17] <rob_cowie> nope
[06:17] <Stormx> I'll be back a bit later.
[06:17] <rob_cowie> will do
[06:17] <znh> macromedia's flash player sucks.. it's SOOO BUGY!
[06:17] <crashd> actually
[06:17] <Seveas> unsec1, and also: please use an official mirror
[06:17] <CGA> *anyone* how do i put my soundcard in full duplex?
[06:17] <kemik> rob_cowie:  recompiling the kernel is no fun...
[06:17] <rob_cowie> ok
[06:17] <crashd> rob_cowie: if you edit your grub config with the kernel option "acpi=off"
[06:17] <rob_cowie> perhaps I'll forget it for the mo
[06:17] <CGA> please
[06:17] <crashd> so in grub you'd have something like this....
[06:17] <rob_cowie> the reason I need to turn of acpi is...
[06:18] <crashd> kernel /boot/ubuntu-kernel-2.6.10-15 root=/dev/hda5
[06:18] <Stormx> dot dot dot
[06:18] <rob_cowie> Imm trying to get a wirelss card working with ndiswrapper
[06:18] <crashd> add 'acpi=off' to the end of that line
[06:18] <unsec1> What do you mean official mirror? How do I know whats official and whats not.
[06:18] <unsec1> ?
[06:18] <Seveas> unsec1: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:18] <crashd> that should disable acpi module
[06:18] <Shiroi[notebook] > after install ubuntu, i wanted to play dvd, but Totem says: Totem cannot play DVD: there were no decoders... what can i do?
[06:18] <rob_cowie> ok cheers
[06:18] <crashd> or, you can do it at the grub menu, for temporary ones
[06:18] <tucoz> In what repository are the kernel? So that I could change the hoary to breezy
[06:18] <crashd> just do 'acpi=off'
[06:18] <rob_cowie> do I edit the grup config at boot time
[06:19] <rob_cowie> oh ok
[06:19] <Marve> In windows, I can connect to the WLAN. If i had the same MAC address in ubuntu, would I then be allowed to connect?
[06:19] <crashd> rob_cowie: depends if you want it to be semi permanent or not
[06:19] <tucoz> rob_cowie, you could
[06:19] <crashd> rob_cowie: check ubuntuguide.org about grub config
[06:19] <crashd> if you're not experienced
[06:19] <crashd> as you dont want to bone grub ;)
[06:19] <rob_cowie> cheers
[06:19] <crashd> np's
[06:19] <crashd> have fun :] 
[06:19] <crashd> rob_cowie: btw, what wireless card you using ?
[06:19] <arathald> Seveas: uhh.... isnt the command to unmount just unmount?
[06:19] <surly> help .... sound too low in ubuntu. i have used all the tips in the forums, i have tweaked aumix, alsa, etc. none of these tips/tricks are working. using a creative card that has no problems in any other distro. thanks in advance.
[06:19] <HappyFool> ubotu, sourceslist is a complete /etc/apt/sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:19] <ubotu> ...but sourceslist is already something else...
[06:20] <rob_cowie> D-LINK DWL-G650
[06:20] <znh> surly: have you put PCM and the master aprox the 80?
[06:20] <crashd> ahhh
[06:20] <crashd> that the admtek 8211 chipset?
[06:20] <rob_cowie> it works apparently
[06:20] <rob_cowie> Im having no luvk
[06:20] <tucoz> Is the kernel in the restricted repository?
[06:20] <arathald> Seveas: nm- i got it
[06:20] <surly> znh_ all settings are maxed
[06:20] <rob_cowie> crashd:seems ndiswrapper and the driver are installed ok
[06:21] <rob_cowie> crashd: but the driver 'fails to initialise the card'
[06:21] <crashd> rob_cowie: hmm, wireless isn't really my fort
[06:21] <crashd> i just picked up a shitty 'b' card off of a friend, but it wont work
[06:21] <rob_cowie> this may be due to acpi problems - apparently
[06:21] <crashd> i bought a nice netgear one the other day tho, so that'll be nice :] 
[06:21] <Boffa> is it possibly to force kernel NOT to SCSI emulate my ATA devices? (they are recognized as /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1)
[06:21] <znh> HappyFool: have you made ubotu?
[06:21] <rob_cowie> yeah me too - just go this card from ebay nice and cheap
[06:21] <crashd> rob_cowie: tell me how you got on
[06:22] <rob_cowie> will do man
[06:22] <crashd> cool, :] 
[06:22] <HappyFool> znh: no, someone else did -- exarkun?
[06:22] <HappyFool> znh: anyone can add factoids though
[06:22] <znh> HappyFool: aah I see :-D
[06:23] <kr> i have downloaded music, in mp3 format, what can i use to convert this format so i can burn a cd of that music
[06:24] <Stormx> back
[06:24] <jowi_away> kr, (i'm away but will offer this as a quick fix) if you install graveman, add the mp3/ogg you want and it will do that for you automaticly
[06:24] <znh> what is graveman?
[06:24] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: i've done all that stuff and i'm still not getting wine...
[06:24] <arathald> how do i write to an ntfs?
[06:24] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: does apt-get update give errors?
[06:24] <jowi_away> znh, a cd-burn app
[06:25] <znh> aah okay
[06:25] <tucoz> Just a thought, if I install a newer kernel, will this break my ati fglrx drivers?
[06:25] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: nope
[06:25] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: and what's the wine install error?
[06:25] <znh> does anyone know some application that can convert media files to some other media file type?
[06:25] <tucoz> or rather, do I have to install the drivers for that kernel as well?
[06:25] <kr> where can i find graveman
[06:25] <Stormx> arathald: You don't.
[06:25] <znh> kr: apt-get install graveman :-)
[06:26] <arathald> Stormx: can I write to FAT32?
[06:26] <kr> thank you
[06:26] <Stormx> arathald: Absolutely ^_^
[06:26] <LinuxDolt> apokryphos: same as it's been, it's not available, referred to, no installation candidate.
[06:26] <Stormx> arathald: There are programs with experimental write support to NTFS
[06:26] <znh> !reiserfs
[06:26] <ubotu> znh: Wish i knew
[06:26] <znh> !reiser
[06:26] <ubotu> znh: Are you smoking crack?
[06:26] <Stormx> !I LOVE YOU UBOTU!!!!!
[06:26] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Stormx
[06:26] <apokryphos> LinuxDolt: ok, then it's best to follow instructions on the wine factoid
[06:26] <znh> HappyFool: how to add items to ubotu?
[06:26] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell LinuxDolt about wine
[06:27] <arathald> Stormx: so if I want to copy a current NTFS partition that windows won't mount to another physical drive, I should create the new partition in FAT32, then convert it back to NTFS (if necessary) in PartitionMagic in windows?
[06:27] <Stormx> >_>
[06:27] <znh> oh did I hear someone curse
[06:27] <Stormx> current NTFS parition that WINDOWS won't mount?
[06:27] <kemik> arathald:  that didnt make sense... windows not mounting it's own filesystem?
[06:28] <Derkommissar> is there a way not to make fsck fun ?
[06:28] <arathald> Stormx: its my second hdd and something got messed up in the partition table and windows doesnt recognise it
[06:28] <Stormx> arathald: What I do, Is have my NTFS partion, but also have a VFAT partition for sharing data, like music and anime
[06:28] <omeg> I just downloaded FCE Ultra, a NES emulator, using Synaptic. But when I try to start it, nothing happens.
[06:28] <arathald> Starmx: whats VFAT?
[06:28] <kemik> arathald:  Fat32
[06:28] <omeg> It's a universe (unsupported?) package
[06:28] <Stormx> arathald: FAT32
[06:29] <Kyral> I love putting the "Use At Your Own Risk" disclaimer on packages I make :D
[06:29] <Stormx> xD
[06:29] <arathald> Stormx: ok- thanks a lot- ill go reformat my new drive as FAT then go transfer
[06:29] <Stormx> >_< I want a DVD Drive.
[06:29] <omeg> I would like to use it "at my own risk", but it seems that just using it would be nice.
[06:29] <LinuxDolt> well.  at least xmms is showing up now, lol
[06:29] <ags06> can anyone tell me how to set file asscociations
[06:29] <Stormx> arathald: Make sure you have...
[06:29] <Stormx> damn he's gone.
[06:29] <Stormx> xD
[06:29] <Stormx> He's gonna forget about making room for ext3
[06:29] <Kyral> I was talking about my GDesklets package I made that everyone seems to want :P
[06:29] <Keegan> music player crashes when I try to start it! any suggestions?
[06:30] <Stormx> GDesklets?!
[06:30] <test0r> what source-list do I need to install azureus via apt ?
[06:30] <kemik> Stormx:  dvd-drives are really cheap :)
[06:30] <Stormx> GIMME!
[06:30] <omeg> Strange, though.
[06:30] <omeg> It doesn't give any type of error.
[06:30] <omeg> It just doesn't start.
[06:30] <unsec1> I am still getting this: Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions. After changing sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[06:30] <Kyral> lol
[06:30] <ags06> Keegan: try to disable the sound server startup
[06:30] <Stormx> kemik: I just got a new CD-R (non DVD). I put paper in the last one.
[06:30] <Kyral> Stormx want DCC?
[06:30] <Stormx> Kyral: What are they.......
[06:30] <DVSoftware> anyone knows how to setup additional buttons on my laptop keyboard in KDE
[06:30] <DVSoftware> gnome recognizes that buttons fine
[06:30] <DVSoftware> but KDE don't
[06:30] <Keegan> ags06: how would I do that?
[06:30] <kemik> Stormx:  erh, you put paper init??
[06:31] <omeg> Anyone have any idea?
[06:31] <Kyral> Again, I have NFI whats gonna happen when you upgrade to Breezy....hell, I don't know what is gonna happen to my system :P
[06:31] <ags06> Keegan: system ->Preferences ->sound
[06:31] <Stormx> kemik: Yeh. I wrote "Windows Longhorn" on it.
[06:31] <shammy> I have ndiswrapper installed, but it doesn't work and I want to do a fresh installation of it.. how do I remove the current ndiswrapper install?
[06:31] <Kyral> Stormx: DCC is a way to xfer files over IRC
[06:31] <kemik> Kyral:   X will die on you, that's what will happen
[06:31] <znh> ubotu, reiserfs is a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[06:31] <ubotu> znh: okay
[06:31] <Kyral> kemik: I meant when it goes Stable
[06:31] <Keegan> ags06: then restart?
[06:31] <znh> !reiserfs
[06:31] <ubotu> methinks reiserfs is a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[06:31] <Stormx> Kyral: OK Then
[06:31] <ags06> Keegan: uncheck the "Enable the sound server startup"
[06:31] <ags06> no should work directly
[06:31] <ags06> did for me
[06:32] <kemik> Kyral:  then it'll upgrade your shit to breezy ;) hehe
[06:32] <ags06> but if it didn't restart
[06:32] <ags06> what music player are u trying to install
[06:32] <kemik> !reiserfs
[06:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, reiserfs is a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[06:32] <Keegan> im not trying to install anything
[06:32] <kemik> nice
[06:32] <Keegan> I am trying to use the one that came with ubuntu
[06:32] <Kyral> Stormx I'm initiating the fer, accept
[06:32] <test0r> !sources.list
[06:32] <ubotu> No idea, test0r
[06:32] <Stormx> Kyral: I have. The status is "connect"
[06:32] <Keegan> rythumbox, I think it is called
[06:32] <ags06> the one that comes with it doesn;t have a real plugins
[06:33] <unsec1> What is causing this error:  Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions.
[06:33] <ags06> u can;'t really play much
[06:33] <znh> !amarok
[06:33] <Kyral> Damnit why does my client hate DCC?
[06:33] <Stormx> xD
[06:33] <Kyral> Email addy then?
[06:33] <Stormx> I think its me.
[06:33] <ags06> download the realplayer
[06:33] <Keegan> ags06: so what do I do to play mp3s?
[06:33] <Stormx> stormx2004@gmail.com - MSN too.
[06:33] <Kyral> and kemik I meant my custom packages :D
[06:33] <Stormx> Keegan: XMMS
[06:33] <omeg> I can get FCEU to run from the terminal... but not in X. Strange.
[06:33] <ags06> get realplayer
[06:33] <Stormx> NO!
[06:33] <Stormx> Get XMMS damnit!
[06:33] <ags06> www.real.com
[06:33] <ags06> get the linux version
[06:33] <Stormx> So many people have problems with realplayer on linux!
[06:33] <ags06> install it
[06:33] <Stormx> Its not worth it!
[06:34] <Stormx> DONT LISTEN TO HIM!
[06:34] <Stormx> AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
[06:34] <Zenon_> Any websites that have a listing of games that will run in Linux? Meaning, newer games that are popular
[06:34] <DVSoftware> Stormx, amaroK rulz
[06:34] <kemik> Keegan:  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:34] <kemik> !tell Keegan about restrictedformats
[06:34] <ags06> and don't forget to disable that sound server
[06:34] <HappyFool> !restricted
[06:34] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:34] <ags06> should work like a charm
[06:34] <ags06> play everything
[06:34] <ags06> mp3's ram rm mpeg etc
[06:34] <Stormx> ags06: You are a damn evil person
[06:34] <HappyFool> i think that the restrictedformats page has something on realplayer too
[06:34] <Stormx> DIE DIE DIE
[06:34] <kemik> it's better to enable soundmixing that turning of the soundserver
[06:35] <Shiroi[notebook] > how to watch DVD video after installing Ubuntu? please help =)
[06:35] <znh> DVSoftware: when it works indeed..
[06:35] <ags06> well i'll try it
[06:35] <kemik> Shiroi[notebook] :  get videolan (enable universe and apt-get gnome-vlc)
[06:35] <HappyFool> Shiroi[notebook] : you too need to read the restrictedformats page on the wiki; see the message ubotu posted above
[06:35] <Stormx> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:36] <Shiroi[notebook] > ah okay. thanks
[06:36] <kemik> HappyFool:  should edit that page and recommend VideoLan as the player of choice.. totem lacks in everything
[06:36] <Stormx> <3 XMMS
[06:36] <Stormx> VideoLAN
[06:36] <Stormx> now thats a good player!
[06:36] <Kyral> damnit
[06:36] <Stormx> Great for anime
[06:36] <Stormx> Kyral: Problem?
[06:36] <unsec1> According to my error message I can..."If you have many compilers installed, you can specify the correct one with command (in bash): export CC=kgcc"
[06:36] <Shiroi[notebook] > hmmm then for what reason Totem - is default player in ubuntu?
[06:36] <Kyral> its hanging on the send
[06:36] <highvoltage> Hi, where can I get documentation re: kickstart? I searched the wiki, but couldn't find it.
[06:36] <kemik> Stormx:  great for EVERYTHING ;)
[06:36] <znh> !videolan
[06:36] <ubotu> No idea, znh
[06:37] <Stormx> Kyral: its uploading
[06:37] <HappyFool> kemik: it's a wiki; feel free to edit the page if you like
[06:37] <apokryphos> znh: it's vcl
[06:37] <znh> ubotu: VideoLan are the authors of VLC
[06:37] <ubotu> znh: okay
[06:37] <apokryphos> VLC
[06:37] <Stormx> !videolan pwns, does''t it ubotu my one and only love?
[06:37] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Stormx
[06:37] <apokryphos> heh
[06:37] <kemik> HappyFool:  there's no "registering required?"
[06:37] <znh> !vlc
[06:37] <ubotu> vlc is, like, a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[06:37] <unsec1> Replace kgcc with the command required for compiling kernels (kgcc is often used in Red Hat systems). What is it for Ubuntu?
[06:37] <Kyral> It hasn't taken that long when I have sent it to other people
[06:37] <Kyral> I'll try to send it later
[06:37] <HappyFool> kemik: yes, but it's free and instantaneous
[06:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: videolan is See vlc
[06:37] <ubotu> ...but videolan is already something else...
[06:37] <Stormx> Kyral: Refresh ^_^
[06:37] <Kyral> !Windows
[06:37] <apokryphos> oh
[06:37] <ubotu> I heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[06:38] <Kyral> !Microsoft
[06:38] <ubotu> microsoft is probably the maker of that other operating system, Windows
[06:38] <znh> apokryphos: mine is more helpfull I think
[06:38] <Kyral> !XChat
[06:38] <ubotu> from memory, xchat is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto http://www.xchat.org/
[06:38] <Derkommissar> its there a way to bypass the fsck on the boot process ?
[06:38] <kemik> ubotu, like, a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support. get it from universe or www.videolan.org
[06:38] <ubotu> kemik: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:38] <Stormx> !Bill Gates
[06:38] <ubotu> I heard bill gates is a clone
[06:38] <Stormx> ROFL
[06:38] <kpeterson> Can anyone help me set up my proftpd server?  I think I have it set up correctly for anonymous access and I seem to get a connection when using full featured ftp clients, but I need people to be able to access it from the ftp browsers integrated into IE or mozilla, which are not able to connect to my server.  is this a problem with passive ftp or something? any suggestions?
[06:38] <kemik> ubotu, vlc like, a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support. get it from universe or www.videolan.org
[06:38] <ZincX> lol
[06:38] <ubotu> kemik: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:38] <kemik> damn
[06:38] <Stormx> rofl
[06:38] <Seveas> Kyral, Stormx please do not play with ubotu
[06:38] <cefx> Hi.  I'm trying to remember the command for burning iso's.  Is it cdrecord -eject speed=x device=/dev/hdx driveropts=dao ?
[06:38] <Stormx> !Bill Gates
[06:38] <highvoltage> !kickstart
[06:38] <ubotu> highvoltage: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:38] <Goodspeed> i have a tar that has i need to install
[06:38] <Kyral> sorry Seveas
[06:39] <kemik> Seveas:  please add where to get VLC ;)
[06:39] <Goodspeed> inside it is . and then user diectoriees
[06:39] <cefx> I know I'm missing something...
[06:39] <highvoltage> ubotu: i was hoping you could :(
[06:39] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, highvoltage
[06:39] <Seveas> kemik, in the repositories :)
[06:39] <Goodspeed> but whenever i run tar zxvf it extracts it to the directory the file is in
[06:39] <Goodspeed> not to ./
[06:39] <Shiroi[notebook] > !triggers
[06:39] <ubotu> I don't know, Shiroi[notebook] 
[06:39] <kemik> Seveas:  i know, but the package is called gnome-vlc and dont you have to enable universe aswell?
[06:39] <Shiroi[notebook] > !faq
[06:39] <ubotu> I guess faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[06:39] <Zenon_> Anyone use Cedega before?
[06:39] <Seveas> Stormx, if you run that in this channel you will be kicked ...
[06:40] <heien|eating> Hey
[06:40] <heien|eating> Can anyone reconnigze the errors at this site, trying to install transcode : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/996
[06:40] <Seveas> kemik, true, but you have to do that for a lot of packages :)
[06:40] <znh> Stormx: why would you.. nobody seems to be interested what you are playing
[06:40] <cefx> Anyone?
[06:40] <Seveas> znh, but it is 1337 :)
[06:40] <unsec1> Does anybody have a webcam that works?
[06:40] <kemik> Seveas:  indeed.. just thought it would be helpful to the newbies ;)
[06:40] <omeg> Argh. I mean /, not \. Me and my old DOS habits. :P
[06:40] <heien|eating> Yes unsecl
[06:40] <znh> Seveas: I'm also not interested in breezah leetisch talkz0r
[06:40] <cefx> What's the syntax for burning an iso image?
[06:40] <omeg> C:\> dir
[06:41] <HappyFool> cefx: maybe dev= ?
[06:41] <Goodspeed> how do i tar something to the root dir?
[06:41] <ags06> can anyone tell me what the default update repositories are
[06:41] <znh> Seveas: :-P
[06:41] <ags06> or where i can get them
[06:41] <cefx> oh yeah
[06:41] <HappyFool> cefx: have you tried 'cdrecord --help' or 'man cdrecord' ?
[06:41] <cefx> yes.
[06:41] <omeg> Anyway, maybe now someone's active who can help me with my problem...
[06:41] <omeg> I got FCE Ultra from Synaptic (universe).
[06:41] <unsec1> Which one? Did it work out of the box? heien
[06:41] <omeg> But it won't run now that I've got it.
[06:41] <omeg> Even though the installation worked just fine.
[06:41] <cefx> cdrecord -eject speed=x dev=/dev/hdx driveropts=dao /home/noname/file.iso ?
[06:42] <Stormx> omeg, how have you tried opening it?
[06:42] <heien> unsec1,  a Labtec pro (spca5xx chip) it worked after installing the driver and v4l
[06:42] <cefx> Seveas, anything in that line look wrong to you?
[06:42] <Stormx> omeg, try running it in terminal, and also under "Run Application"
[06:42] <MrThou> Greetings
[06:42] <omeg> Double-clicking it from its location, /usr/games/fceu
[06:42] <Seveas> cefx, I'm not a burning-kind-of-guy :)
[06:42] <omeg> And it does give me feedback when I try it in the terminal
[06:42] <omeg> But just not in X.
[06:42] <cefx> Oh :P
[06:42] <unsec1> I have been faffing around for two hours tring to get this  Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express to go
[06:42] <synnfest> OK, I've been reading up, and others have been having issues with this version of firefox.  Can anyone tell me how to downgrade back to 1.0.2?
[06:43] <HappyFool> cefx: read 'man cdrecord'
[06:43] <ags06> how can i configure the built in firewall
[06:43] <ags06> settings
[06:43] <omeg> Also, from "Run program", it does nothing, too.
[06:43] <heien> unsec1, i think the chip works... do you know what chip?
[06:43] <HappyFool> !firewall
[06:43] <ubotu> somebody said firewall was program to stop intruders. Ubuntu comes with iptables. Graphical front-end: Firestarter
[06:43] <solidape> i can't login to ubuntu att all, gdm starts fine but then the monitor goes to powersaving mode.. anyone have any tips?
[06:44] <unsec1> heien, it should work like this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=logitech+webcam
[06:44] <Crank> can anyone help me to setup a simple ftp server?
[06:44] <unsec1> instead it does this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=289359#post289359
[06:44] <Seveas> ubotu: Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[06:44] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Seveas
[06:45] <Goodspeed> how do i copy directories?
[06:45] <Stormx> cefx: What happens?
[06:45] <solidape> i run a dpkg-reconfigure but still can't get to x/gnome....
[06:45] <Stormx> oops
[06:45] <Stormx> Im like 15 minutes late
[06:45] <Stormx> xD
[06:45] <unsec1> Seveas, Still getting the same error :(
[06:45] <Seveas> !forget firewall
[06:45] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot firewall
[06:45] <Seveas> ubotu firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[06:45] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[06:45] <MrThou> Question: While attempting to install, or run the live portion of the Ubuntu DVD, when it gets to my PS/2 mouse port. It just freezes.  Upon further thought I should have written down the last line. But it didnt say there was an error. Just froze.
[06:45] <Kirsch> hey everyone, i need xf86misc.h, which package provides that? (it's an x11 source)
[06:45] <Seveas> unsec1, but did the kernel upgrade?
[06:46] <unsec1> Seveas, apt-get install linux-686 linux-686 is already the newest version.
[06:46] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-file search xf86misc.h
[06:46] <Seveas> libxxf86misc-dev: usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/xf86misc.h
[06:46] <Seveas> unsec1, did you change your sources.list and run apt-get update?
[06:46] <unsec1> Yes. Did the above as you said
[06:46] <Seveas> hmm
[06:46] <flodine> anyone running perlpanel
[06:47] <Stormx> Seveas: Any simple HTML/PHP editors for ubuntu?
[06:47] <Goodspeed> how do i copy directories?
[06:47] <^thehatsrule^> bluefish
[06:47] <Stormx> bluefish? ok
[06:47] <Seveas> Stormx, i'm tempted to say vim :)
[06:47] <Stormx> vim?
[06:47] <heien> unsec1,  sorry, cant help you with that driver :)
[06:47] <Stormx> I'll look at both.
[06:47] <Seveas> Stormx, but nvu might be better suited for you ;)
[06:48] <HappyFool> *whisper* emacs
[06:48] <Stormx> ^_^ do they have source editing?
[06:48] <Stormx> *highlighting
[06:48] <Seveas>  /kick HappyFool
[06:48] <Stormx> not editing xD
[06:48] <Seveas> Stormx, vim/nvu/emacs have, bluefish probably has it too
[06:49] <Stormx> Seveas: nvu isn't under Synaptic, btw.
[06:49] <Seveas> wiki has install instructions :)
[06:50] <claude> anyone have an idea how can i use my DVI output on my video card ?
[06:50] <Kirsch> Anyone knwo which package provides xf86misc.h ?
[06:50] <Seveas> Kirsch, I just told you!
[06:50] <Stormx> !nvu
[06:50] <ubotu> I guess nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[06:50] <HappyFool> Kirsch: package.ubuntu.com has a 'file search' field at the bottom
[06:50] <Stormx> ^_^ its so handy
[06:51] <HappyFool> packages.ubuntu.com, even
[06:51] <Kirsch> oh sweet, new?
[06:51] <Seveas> no
[06:52] <Kirsch> oh
[06:52] <Kirsch> how recent?
[06:52] <Seveas> since the beginning...
[06:52] <Kirsch> oh... heh ok
[06:52] <MrThou> Question: While attempting to install, or run the live portion of the Ubuntu DVD, when it gets to my PS/2 mouse port. It just freezes.  Upon further thought I should have written down the last line. But it didnt say there was an error. Just froze.  Any ideas?
[06:52] <Seveas> but I just gave you the name of the package...
[06:52] <unsec1> This may be the problem: Kernel headers installed, but not complete source code. Note that for kernel 2.6.x we need always full source code.
[06:53] <Seveas> unsec1, hmm, quickcams suck even more than I thought :)
[06:53] <Seveas> unsec1, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10-2
[06:53] <Seveas> (if it didn't update to -5 that is)
[06:54] <unsec1> Thanks. I was just apt-cach searching for that Seveas
[06:54] <jeff_> hey people
[06:54] <Goodspeed> how do i grant myself access to a file i created in root?
[06:54] <Seveas> sudo chmod or sudo chown
[06:55] <jeff_> do you guys know how to get kde on ubuntu?
[06:55] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <Seveas> ^-- jeff_
[06:55] <jeff_> hey
[06:56] <jeff_> and how do i get that?
[06:56] <Seveas> just type that command :)
[06:56] <unsec1> linux-source-2.6.10 is already the newest version......Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.10-2
[06:56] <Kirsch> Sevas: i just got your MSG i'm sorry I didn't see it hehe
[06:56] <Seveas> unsec1, then you have it already :)
[06:56] <Kirsch> u didn't put Kirsch in front, i was looking for that
[06:56] <Seveas> hehe
[06:56] <NicholasHill> hey guys
[06:57] <NicholasHill> i just installed ubuntu on my computer!
[06:57] <NicholasHill> now i have 600mbs worth of a text prompt :(
[06:57] <Seveas> NicholasHill, welcome aboard!
[06:57] <Seveas> ouch...
[06:57] <Kirsch> I got the Mobility, I'm following these ATI driver instructions.
[06:57] <Kirsch> To build the debian modules.
[06:57] <Seveas> NicholasHill, something went wrong during install?
[06:57] <asfra> hello, it's possible to test kde without losing gnome right?
[06:57] <unsec1> Seveas, they really do suck! I'll do ./quickcam.sh  and look at the errors again
[06:57] <NicholasHill> onpe
[06:58] <NicholasHill> install all fine, its the first boot
[06:58] <NicholasHill> or any other boot
[06:58] <Kirsch> Asfra: yes i believe
[06:58] <Seveas> Kirsch, use the UBuntu drivers, don't download them from Ubuntu.com
[06:58] <Seveas> Kirsch, use the UBuntu drivers, don't download them from ati.com
[06:58] <Seveas> damnit :)
[06:58] <Kirsch> Seveas, even for ATI Mobility?
[06:58] <NicholasHill> says xserver cant start, and to configure it properly then run gdm or something
[06:58] <jimpanic> uuuhm...stupid question: does the amd64-version of ubuntu run in 64bit-mode?
[06:58] <jeff_> where do you type commands?
[06:58] <Seveas> Kirsch, yes
[06:58] <Kirsch> Seveas: i'm building them from source
[06:58] <MrThou> BBL. going to try this again
[06:58] <Kirsch> do you have a URL?
[06:58] <Seveas> NicholasHill, what type of videocard do you have?
[06:58] <Seveas> !nvidia
[06:58] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:58] <Seveas> !ati
[06:58] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:58] <NicholasHill> nvidia asus 6800gt 128mb
[06:58] <cefx> Error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[06:59] <Seveas> NicholasHill, hmm
[06:59] <cefx> Error trying to open /dev/cdrom exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[06:59] <Seveas> NicholasHill, login at the text promt and try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:59] <NicholasHill> (the one suitable only for deaf people due to its noisy fan!)
[06:59] <unsec1> awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file `/lib/modules/2.6.10-2-686/build/include/linux/version.h' for reading (No such file or directory)
[06:59] <Seveas> NicholasHill, lol :)
[06:59] <NicholasHill> not xserver-xfree86?
[06:59] <Seveas> NicholasHill, no, Ubuntu uses X.org
[07:00] <NicholasHill> ok, that will take a short while have to reset and use my other hdd to load it again then
[07:00] <NicholasHill> btw how do i get to root? if i login username "root" it wont let me use my blank password, or my usual password which i set up for me
[07:00] <jimpanic> i don`t really want to ask again, but..does the amd64-version of ubuntu run in long-mode or just normal protected-mode?
[07:01] <HappyFool> unsec1: you need the linux-headers-386 package
[07:01] <Seveas> NicholasHill, the password for root is disabled by default
[07:01] <cefx> Anyone want to be of help here?
[07:01] <NicholasHill> ok
[07:01] <NicholasHill> thanks man
[07:01] <cefx> heh
[07:01] <NicholasHill> i am going to restart...
[07:01] <cefx> i don't see what is using my cdrom
[07:01] <cefx> :|
[07:01] <NicholasHill> thanks for all your help :D
[07:01] <Kirsch> sevas; brb
[07:01] <edddie> I'd like to import a windows settings for firefox, the xml ones, I have my windows partitions mounted, now where do I put them?
[07:01] <Seveas> cefx, lsof `readlink -f /dev/cdrom`
[07:01] <Coss> Stormx, there?
[07:02] <Coss> Nero cant burn as image? wtf?
[07:02] <jimpanic> nero < *
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[07:02] <Seveas> jimmy, you just said that nero is the worst ever :)
[07:02] <Seveas> and that's not true
[07:03] <edddie> I'd like to import a windows settings for firefox, the xml ones, I have my windows partitions mounted, now where do I put them?
[07:03] <jimpanic> of course it`s not...did you mention the closing tag? ;)
[07:03] <Seveas> it's the best there is for windows
[07:03] <Goodspeed> how do i rename something in temrinal
[07:03] <Seveas> Goodspeed, mv
[07:03] <jimpanic> kind of the best, but not perfect :)
[07:03] <cefx> Seveas, that did nothing.
[07:03] <jimpanic> Seveas, don`t you know the answer of my question? =<
[07:03] <jimpanic> =\
[07:03] <Derkommissar> is there a way to tell grub just to boot to the shell ?
[07:03] <cefx> :(
[07:04] <Seveas> jimpanic, must have missed the question
[07:04] <Seveas> Derkommissar, the recovery mode does that...
[07:04] <jimpanic> "i don`t really want to ask again, but..does the amd64-version of ubuntu run in long-mode or just normal protected-mode?"
[07:04] <jimpanic> :)
[07:04] <Derkommissar> why does ubuntu run fsck even when going into single more
[07:04] <Derkommissar> Seveas still it goes trough fsck
[07:04] <Seveas> jimpanic, waaaaayyy ouy of my knowledge
[07:04] <levander> If k3b says ":-( write failed" in it's status window, but keeps going through the whole process and at the end says "Writing successfully finished", there is anything to worry about?  I would care, but there is also a message above the progress bar that says 4320 MB of 4341 MB written.
[07:04] <Derkommissar> im trying to gt around going to fsck
[07:04] <jimpanic> awww...ok :)
[07:04] <Seveas> jimpanic, kernel developers are in #ubuntu-kernel
[07:04] <jimpanic> nice, thanks
[07:05] <HappyFool> edddie: somewhere in .mozilla/firefox, probably. I'm not sure that copying arbitrary config files across is a good idea
[07:05] <Seveas> Derkommissar, well, fsck should not be skipped....
[07:05] <Coss> i want to install ubuntu but i cant : (
[07:05] <Derkommissar> i need to skip it
[07:05] <Derkommissar> it blocks my keyboard
[07:05] <Seveas> Derkommissar, skipping it is silly
[07:05] <edddie> HappyFool, I don't think their different on windows
[07:05] <Derkommissar> then it requires me to enter the root password or press ctrl-d
[07:05] <HappyFool> Derkommissar: maybe boot using a live cd and fix your hard drive partitions?
[07:05] <Derkommissar> and i cant do nothing
[07:05] <jimmy> Seveas: it was the other jimmy :)
[07:05] <jimmy> jimpanic
[07:06] <jimpanic> o_O
[07:06] <jimpanic> hi jimmy ;o
[07:06] <Derkommissar> HappyFool i dont have access to a live cd
[07:06] <edddie> HappyFool, where would I find .mozilla/firefox?
[07:06] <Seveas> jimmy, hehe, <tab> error :)
[07:06] <Derkommissar> is there a way to fix it from windows ?
[07:06] <HappyFool> edddie: in /home/edddie/ (or /home/<yourusername>)
[07:07] <levander> How do you tell k3b not to have the files on your burnt DVD in all uppercase?
[07:07] <Goodspeed> how do i give myself permission to a direcotry i created inr oot?
[07:07] <Goodspeed> chmod
[07:07] <Goodspeed> something
[07:07] <jeff_> how do you get kde on ubuntu
[07:07] <HappyFool> levander: i would guess you need to enable rockridge or joliet extensions
[07:07] <Seveas> jeff_, I just told you!
[07:07] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed, chown user:group file
[07:07] <edddie> umm, for some reason home/admin/ only has desktop
[07:07] <HappyFool> jeff_: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' ?
[07:07] <edddie> I'm the admin account
[07:07] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed, sorry my mistake :(
[07:07] <levander> Goodspeed: chmod 755 file - you need executable permission on the file
[07:08] <jono> hi
[07:08] <jono> is usplash in breezy?
[07:08] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed, you have to sudo first
[07:08] <Goodspeed> really?
[07:08] <jeff_> i typed that command in the thing and it said couldnt find the package
[07:08] <Goodspeed> liike i really need to do sudo?
[07:08] <Goodspeed> holy cow
[07:08] <HappyFool> edddie: directories (and files) starting with '.' are by default hidden
[07:08] <Goodspeed> no wonder it didnt work
[07:08] <Goodspeed> ...
[07:08] <edddie> oh
[07:08] <Seveas> jeff_, then you need to enable network downloads
[07:08] <Kirsch> Seveas: hey i'm back, it didn't work, my monitor comes up blank, i did add the line Option "MonitorLayout" "AUTO,AUTO"
[07:08] <Goodspeed> sorry its been a loooooong day
[07:08] <Kirsch> any ideas?
[07:08] <HappyFool> edddie: .mozilla may not exist if you haven't run firefox yet, i'm not sure
[07:09] <Seveas> jeff_, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[07:09] <edddie> I ran it
[07:09] <Seveas> Kirsch, not really, i'm not that good at X stuff...
[07:09] <Kirsch> seveas, jeff_ : did you do a sudo apt-get update?
[07:09] <lui> Hello people!
[07:09] <HappyFool> edddie: try entering the address manually using 'File->Open location'
[07:09] <Seveas> Kirsch, if no one else answers: try the mailing list or the forum
[07:09] <Kirsch> after you add repos?
[07:09] <lui> hello Seveas
[07:09] <Seveas> hi lui
[07:09] <Kirsch> its a common issue, im sure someone knows
[07:09] <unsec1> Some errors I get while running ./quickcam.sh  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/998
[07:10] <HappyFool> edddie: oh, try 'View -> Show hidden files'
[07:11] <jeff_> kirsch: no ill do that now
[07:11] <edddie> HappyFool, thanks.
[07:12] <NicholasHill> im back :D
[07:12] <unsec1> Thanks HappyFool I'll give that a go
[07:13] <jeff_> kirsch: ok i did the sudo apt update
[07:13] <jeff_> what now
[07:13] <Kirsch> Seveas: ....
[07:13] <lui> anyone knows why the Gnome Help Topics doesn't show anything?
[07:13] <Kirsch> I don't knwo what apt-get you were doing before
[07:13] <Kirsch> try the previous command that you were trying were it couldn't find the packaage
[07:13] <Seveas> Seveas, I have no problem :)
[07:13] <NicholasHill> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work :(
[07:13] <edddie> works great HappyFool, thanks a bunch
[07:14] <Seveas> Kirsch*
[07:14] <Zodiac> hey guys
[07:14] <jeff_> ok
[07:14] <Seveas> Kirsch, my only problem is that I talk to myself sometimes as you saw there ;)
[07:14] <Kirsch> i don't knwo what you were helping him with.
[07:14] <Zodiac> If I wanted to try out Amarok, what packages will I need??
[07:14] <Kirsch> Yea, i do that too sometimes. But IRL
[07:14] <Kirsch> haha
[07:14] <Seveas> :)
[07:14] <Seveas> don't get me started on IRL :)
[07:14] <syntaxman> is the "Please don't use Breezy yet" warning in the /topic still current?
[07:15] <Zodiac> yes
[07:15] <Seveas> yup
[07:15] <Zodiac> Don't do it
[07:15] <Seveas> X is still not completely good
[07:15] <Zodiac> It ain't ready
[07:15] <Kirsch> LOL thats funny
[07:15] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed, yeah if the directory was created with root permissions you need root permissions to make the changes.
[07:15] <Zodiac> Ain't done cookin
[07:15] <NicholasHill> can anyone help?
[07:15] <Kirsch> I tried Breezy out a bit ago, like when 5.04 was released... yea, my laptop committed suicide
[07:15] <syntaxman> ok, thanks.   I stuck with testing while the libc5->libc6 changes were going on.
[07:15] <Seveas> Kirsch, back then Breezy was quite ok
[07:15] <NicholasHill> my newly installed ubuntu still doesn't work :(
[07:15] <Seveas> :)
[07:15] <FLeiXiuS> Anyone know how to burn a .bin/.cue file with gnomebaker?
[07:16] <syntaxman> it worked, but it was a _major_ pain.
[07:16] <Kirsch> I have an Orionoco WLAN
[07:16] <Kirsch> it woudn't compile anymore.
[07:16] <Kirsch> well, i had an orinoco wlan, i just got a new laptop
[07:16] <Kirsch> 5.04 picked up everything i had (except ATI which is what i'm doing now)
[07:17] <Kirsch> I hope they figure out a way to do this automaticaly on the next big release.
[07:17] <Seveas> ati is a mess
[07:17] <Seveas> their proprietary drivers suck
[07:17] <Kirsch> I know, I had to use it.
[07:17] <Seveas> the open source drivers suck harder
[07:17] <Kirsch> I think it worked better in Windows.
[07:17] <Seveas> it did :)
[07:18] <Kirsch> not surprised.
[07:18] <Seveas> ATI linux support is simply crap
[07:18] <lui> NicholasHill, what's the problem?
[07:18] <NicholasHill> does anyone know why after freshly installing ubuntu on my computer it doesnt work when booting and puts me back to the prompt, citing graphics not configured properly and to run gdm when i've configured stuff correctly?
[07:19] <Varanger> I have a updated my system from a one-only USB port to a 8 ports usb
[07:19] <syntaxman> NicholasHill: you have to fix your X
[07:19] <syntaxman> NicholasHill: Since X didn't run successfully, it disabled your gdm automatically
[07:19] <Varanger> I have connected my pocketpc to my new system but I don't know which port to use /dev/ttyUSBx
[07:19] <jowi> NicholasHill, something is wrong in your xorg.conf file
[07:20] <Varanger> how can I check that?
[07:20] <NicholasHill> i came here before and was told to sudo reconfigure xorg, but the only option it will let me use is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"
[07:20] <Zodiac> If I wanted to try out Amarok, what packages will I need??
[07:20] <unsec1> i have to give up. Thanks to those who have tried.
[07:20] <Seveas> NicholasHill, did you install warty?
[07:20] <jowi> NicholasHill, you should not use xfree86.
[07:20] <NicholasHill> not sure, all i know is that i installed from the packaged ubuntu cd which has the "live" and "install" discs. i used the install disc
[07:21] <Determinist> what's gnome mini-commander?
[07:21] <NicholasHill> then once installed, my computer restarts as normal and then the problem took place
[07:21] <tucoz> To install a newer kernel, I've added breezy to sources.list. What do I need to install, not to break my current installation?
[07:21] <Zodiac> What kind of equipment are you using??
[07:21] <Seveas> NicholasHill, log in and type: cat /etc/issue
[07:21] <Seveas> NicholasHill, if that says warty: get a couple of Hoary CDs
[07:21] <Kirsch> NicholasHill: what color is the CD?
[07:22] <tucoz> linux-image-2.6.12, and the corresponding header files?
[07:22] <NicholasHill> orange
[07:22] <Kirsch> yea thats the old one Seveas
[07:22] <Kirsch> you should go get 5.04
[07:22] <NicholasHill> if you give me a link ill start a download of a new cd image and use that instead of the orange disc
[07:22] <Kirsch> it's on the website www.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <syntaxman> Why would he need the cd's??
[07:22] <Seveas> Kirsch, please read
[07:22] <Seveas> I don't have that problem :)
[07:23] <syntaxman> why not just update his sources.list?
[07:23] <Kirsch> well...
[07:23] <Kirsch> he could... but wouldn't it be better off than updating everything else if he just installed it?
[07:23] <Kirsch> potentially could have less problems?
[07:23] <HappyFool> tucoz: don't you think you might break your system installing linux-image from breezy ?
[07:23] <Kirsch> thats what's good about linux, you can do whatever you want.
[07:23] <Seveas> installing a clean hoary is much better in such cases
[07:23] <NicholasHill> ok guys ill download 5.04-install-i386 from ubuntu.com
[07:24] <Seveas> HappyFool, that *will* break hotplug :)
[07:24] <NicholasHill> thanks again :D
[07:24] <lui> NicholasHill: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[07:24] <Kirsch> NicholasHill: you have a few options up to you, you can update a file and update all the packages automatically, ro you can just reinstall the system from scratch
[07:24] <Seveas> NicholasHill, did cat /etc/issue say Warty?
[07:24] <Kirsch> LOL
[07:24] <lui> that is the direct link
[07:24] <jowi> i agree, my warty -> hoary wasn't very successful :-)
[07:24] <Kirsch> I agree, I think you should reinstall.
[07:24] <tucoz> HappyFool, ok
[07:24] <NicholasHill> i will have to reboot to find out
[07:25] <Seveas> NicholasHill, does the CD sleeve say 5.04 or 4.10?
[07:25] <tucoz> I just thought that at least the kernel would be fine.
[07:25] <syntaxman> NicholasHill: for the record, I think the reinstall is an unnecessary task.  But it also won't hurt anything.
[07:25] <Kirsch> Seveas: i have both 4.10 and 5.04 here, the 4.10 is a Red Live and Orange Install Disc, Hoary's are both Red.
[07:25] <Seveas> Kirsch, I know.... I'm the helper guy here...
[07:25] <Kirsch> lol
[07:26] <Kirsch> oh sry, not in here often :-\
[07:26] <Stormx> ^_^
[07:26] <Stormx> Seveas is the maaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[07:26] <Kirsch> uhm.. thats funny who's kitsch?
[07:27] <Kirsch> is that supposed to be a joke?
[07:27] <Stormx> Meh, theres 519 people here...
[07:27] <Stormx> what do you expect.
[07:27] <jowi> lol
[07:27] <Seveas> kitsch, and Kirsch lol :)
[07:27] <rod> hi
[07:27] <Seveas> I'd rather have kirsch than kitsch though..
[07:28] <Seveas> 'navond rod
[07:28] <jowi> hiya rod
[07:28] <Kirsch> :-D
[07:28] <rod> i run breezy, and I (finally) got my nvidia driver working! : )
[07:28] <Seveas> rod, congratz :)
[07:28] <Kirsch> someoen help me fix my Mobility problem!!!
[07:28] <Kirsch> lol
[07:28] <Varanger> How can I use synce on Ubuntu?
[07:28] <Ketsch> hmm
[07:28] <JDahl> Kirsch, ATI Radeon mobility? that works fine for me...
[07:28] <Kirsch> what laptop?
[07:29] <JDahl> Kirsch, IBM t40p
[07:29] <rod> unfortunately i run things at a 640 reso... i changed all those low reso's in the xorg.conf but after a ctrl alt backspace it still is at 640x480 :-/
[07:29] <rod> can't find no how-to's
[07:29] <Belutz> ATI Mobility also works fine in here
[07:29] <Seveas> here too :)
[07:29] <Kirsch> ok, i just got this nc8230 HP/Compaq, it has an x600 Mobility
[07:29] <jimpanic> Kirsch, if you look down towards the ground (move your head in the positiv y-direction), there are feet. you can use them to walk around. increases mobility! ;)
[07:29] <Kersch> rofl!
[07:29] <kitsch> kirsch: i've been using kitsch as nick for more than a year now :)
[07:29] <Kirsch> i think the driver is fine, i think the problem is supposed to be this fix
[07:29] <Kirsch> HEY!! THATS NOT FAIR
[07:30] <rod> Seveas, hey... ik heb afgelopen week iets heel stouts gedaan btw :p
[07:30] <Varanger> How can I use synce on Ubuntu?
[07:30] <LinuxJones> Varanger, you mean rsync ?
[07:30] <Seveas> rod, foei :)
[07:30] <Seveas> rod, btw: #ubuntu-nl :)
[07:30] <rod> Seveas, ben gestopt met het vertalen van de gentoo weekly newsletter hehe
[07:30] <peterretief> hey all, I got a dvd to play using vlc, totem used to just die, however is there an elegant means to save dvds to disk?
[07:30] <rod> ah, right
[07:30] <JDahl> Kirsch, are you using binary drivers? I always just used the OSS ones, without problems
[07:30] <Varanger> LinuxJones: I wan to access my PocketPC from Ubuntu
[07:31] <Kirsch> JDahl: yea, i used the wiki howto
[07:31] <Kirsch> !ati
[07:31] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:31] <piksi> does anyone have knowledge of how to install ubuntu from knoppix or stg? i have a sata drive with atapi on sata dvd drive
[07:31] <piksi> so normal ubuntu + debian installations fail
[07:31] <LinuxJones> Varanger, I don't know anything about getting that to work...does it use bluetooth or something for communication ?
[07:31] <JDahl> Kirsch, did the regular drivers work?
[07:31] <Kirsch> I started using these instructions buti stopped: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[07:31] <Varanger> LinuxJones: USB
[07:32] <Kirsch> I stopped after i built the deb packages
[07:32] <peterretief> so is breezy out?
[07:32] <LinuxDolt> ok, i'm trying to build wine from CVS as outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=8&pp=10 and getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/999
[07:32] <LinuxJones> Varanger, so when you plug in your pocket pc does it automatically mount for you on the desktop ?
[07:32] <LinuxDolt> any help?
[07:33] <Kirsch> He's missing this package, seveas u'll probably recognize it: configure: error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present on your system.
[07:33] <HappyFool> peterretief: no, it's due out in october
[07:33] <Kirsch> is it just OpenGL?
[07:33] <lui> LinuxJones: I think so. when I plug my Kingstone DataTraveler it mounts in the desktop
[07:34] <peterretief> HappyFool, Thanks, any exciting new stuff
[07:35] <HappyFool> peterretief: i'm not sure, sorry; perhaps there's more on wiki.ubuntu.com on what will be in breezy
[07:35] <Zodiac> hey guys
[07:35] <Kirsch> LinuxDolt: you need to install OpenGL
[07:35] <Zodiac> I cant get amarok to play sound
[07:35] <Kirsch> it looks like
[07:35] <Seveas> peterretief, a lot :)
[07:35] <Zodiac> I am using the Xine engine
[07:36] <LinuxDolt> err, ogl dev libs, i take it, i HAVE ogl
[07:36] <Zodiac> I am using mp3 files
[07:36] <Kirsch> LinuxDolt, the dev packages.
[07:37] <Zodiac> Any ideas??
[07:37] <LinuxDolt> Kirsch: any idea what they are?
[07:37] <lui> Zodiac: you can hear sound with Rhythmbox 0.8.8
[07:37] <lui> ?
[07:37] <LinuxJones> Varanger, if you search in synaptic for sync there are a whole load of apps available. Wish I could offer more help :(
[07:38] <Zodiac> yes
[07:38] <LinuxJones> Zodiac, did you install mp3 playback codecs ?
[07:38] <Zodiac> yes
[07:38] <Zodiac> Rythmbox plays great
[07:38] <Epod69> hey, if i go to the limewire folder and load limewire, it works just fine, but if a create a link to runlime.sh in the /usr/bin folder, it doesnt load limewire =( . It says, Unable to access jarfile LimeWire.jar, anyone know what could be wrong?
[07:39] <lui> mmm
[07:39] <Kirsch> run this in command line: sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl-dev
[07:39] <cefx> Still can't figure out the right syntax
[07:39] <cefx> :/
[07:39] <Zodiac> I am using the XINE backend
[07:41] <b0xen> I can't decide weather I want to use Evolution or Thunderbird. Any thoughts?
[07:41] <ghutze> b0xen, use the gmail-plugin for firefox
[07:41] <six2one> both are good
[07:41] <cefx> I'd trust mozilla :)
[07:41] <b0xen> ghutze: That's if you have gmail. Which I do. However I also have a school email address which I want to check with a mail client.
[07:41] <sun> b0xen, thunderbird with enigmail is unbeatable
[07:42] <b0xen> sun: What's enigmail? I'm new at a lot of this.
[07:42] <ghutze> b0xen, forward it
[07:42] <sun> b0xen, enigmail is a GPG plugin for encryption/privacy
[07:42] <b0xen> ghutze: don't want too. if the mailbox fills up it stops responding. 10 MB limit.
[07:42] <ferrjuli> hi i need help with WiFi Configuration ubuntu PPC
[07:42] <b0xen> sun: Oh cool. I'm not too worried about encryption though.
[07:43] <raven3x7> somebody suggested to me that i compile fluxbox with a certain configure option(i believe it was thorapeutic). anyone might know which one it was ince he told a couple of others as well?
[07:43] <ghutze> b0xen, another reason to forward (and delete) it.
[07:43] <sun> b0xen, best feature of thunderbird IMO is the threaded view (like a forum thread)
[07:44] <sun> it puts mails in a tree/thread format, very handy
[07:44] <b0xen> ghutze: I'd just prefer to keep it seperate, because when you correspond with teachers they expect replys to come from the school's email address.
[07:44] <sun> View|Sort by|Threaded
[07:45] <ferrjuli> can someone
[07:45] <ubuntu> hello
[07:45] <b0xen> ghutze: The forwarding is a non-issue. I don't want to. All I want is a reccomendation as to what is better. Thunderbird or Evolution.
[07:45] <ferrjuli> hi ubuntu can you helpme
[07:45] <ubuntu> I am from chile
[07:45] <piksi> ah, what a great question
[07:46] <ferrjuli> you speak spanish?
[07:46] <ferrjuli> im form mexico
[07:46] <GyLv0> hello all
[07:46] <ubuntu> i am new in this ubuntu
[07:46] <ubuntu> my english is not good
[07:46] <ferrjuli> mmm my too
[07:46] <GyLv0> i've a big problem with my ubuntu...
[07:46] <windex> b0xen, depends. if you need evolution's features (calandar, scheduler, etc), evolution is superior. if you just want a good mail client, thunderbird works. i find that evolution does too many things in a way that is not friendly with my imap server (in regards to folder management), but i like the calandar/scheduler.
[07:46] <LinuxJones> ubuntu, what language do you speak ?
[07:46] <ubuntu> someone speak spanish?
[07:46] <LinuxJones> ubuntu, you can join #ubuntu-es
[07:46] <Seveas> ubuntu, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol
[07:46] <windex> ubuntu, #ubuntu-es
[07:46] <Seveas> that's 3 times :)
[07:46] <b0xen> Windex: So you would say that thunderbird is more compatible?
[07:47] <ubuntu> como lo hago
[07:47] <raven3x7> lmao
[07:47] <erisco> seveas, i need help launching adobe photoshop 6 over a network
[07:47] <windex> b0xen, with courier imap, anyway, yes.
[07:47] <GyLv0> does everyone know why ubuntu dont ask me for the root password ?
[07:47] <erisco> i made a shortcut
[07:47] <Seveas> ubuntu, type /join #ubuntu-es
[07:47] <othernoob> does anyone dualboot windows/linux
[07:47] <erisco> but it has an error executing the child
[07:47] <b0xen> windex: cool, thanks.
[07:47] <Dr_Melectaus> Anyone know of any Music editing/creating software for nix?
[07:47] <ghutze> b0xen, they are both good. you have to decide yourself which suits your preferences more.
[07:47] <b0xen> othernoob: I do.
[07:47] <ubuntu> muchas gracias
[07:47] <erisco> i am thinking there is a setting in samba somewhere
[07:47] <LinuxJones> GyLv0, root accound is disabled by default Ubuntu uses sudo
[07:47] <raven3x7> othernoob me
[07:47] <othernoob> b0xen: do you have a floppy drive?
[07:47] <GyLv0> ok LinuxJones
[07:47] <b0xen> othernoob: Nope.
[07:48] <Seveas> !root
[07:48] <ubotu> well, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:48] <Seveas> ^-- GyLv0
[07:48] <othernoob> lol.
[07:48] <GyLv0> but when i'm comming for type the root password ?
[07:48] <othernoob> raven3x7: do you have a floppy drive?
[07:48] <Seveas> GyLv0, all menu enries use sudo too
[07:48] <Seveas> sudo needs your own password
[07:48] <raven3x7> othernoob yes why
[07:48] <b0xen> If you really want to enable root, just sudo su - and use the passwd command to change the password.
[07:48] <LinuxJones> GyLv0, you will use your users password
[07:48] <Seveas> b0xen, don't advise that...
[07:48] <GyLv0> ok
[07:48] <GyLv0> if i understand, NO ROOT
[07:48] <GyLv0> ?
[07:48] <b0xen> I don't. That's why I said if you really want to.
[07:49] <Seveas> GyLv0, indeed :)
[07:49] <LinuxDolt> Kirsch: i already have that installed
[07:49] <erisco> okay.... well is it possible to launch adobe photoshop 6 over a network?
[07:49] <cloudr> hello, can somebody help me getting some sound out of my speakers?
[07:49] <othernoob> raven3x7: i don't have one, but i need a win98SE bootdisk (well, the files), but all i can find online is .exe to create one, which of course, requires a floppy drive.
[07:49] <Raskall> I just did a %s/hoary/breezy/g on sources.list and and "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:49] <erisco> i have the program on a windows machine, and trying to launch it over the network onto my ubunt u machine
[07:49] <b0xen> Anybody here have an ESS soundcard?
[07:49] <Seveas> Raskall, good luck
[07:49] <LinuxJones> GyLv0, follow that link a few lines up that ubotu spit out jsut right click and open in web browser
[07:49] <Seveas> X in breezy is still hairy...
[07:49] <raven3x7> othernoob i see
[07:50] <Raskall> Seveas: have seen several people having success lately, so I am taking my chance. I aam totally broke and my family is on vacation, so I have nothing else to do this weekend.
[07:50] <b0xen> othernoob: If you need one that bad, just buy a floppy. They cost like $7 now.
[07:50] <Seveas> Raskall, hehe :)
[07:50] <GyLv0> BIG THANKS
[07:50] <GyLv0> :)
[07:50] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Hey, I'm having an awful time installing wine.
[07:51] <othernoob> b0xen: buy a floppy drive so i can get ONE floppy disk? or actually, JUST the files on it?
[07:51] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> It wont show up in synaptic.
[07:51] <Seveas> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, enable universe multiverse
[07:51] <LinuxDolt> i'm having probs with it too Cry_Mac_Ubuntu
[07:51] <erisco> can anyone help me with getting adobe photoshop booting on ubuntu over a network?
[07:51] <erisco> i made a shortcut, with the correct path name
[07:51] <Seveas> erisco: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[07:51] <b0xen> othernoob: Like I said, if you need it THAT bad, it only costs like $7 or somthing.
[07:52] <LinuxDolt> ubotu tell Cry_Mac_Ubuntu about wine
[07:52] <ghutze> erisco, vnc
[07:52] <ghutze> erisco, http://www.realvnc.com/what.html
[07:52] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I'm trying so hard to run diablo 2
[07:53] <othernoob> b0xen: yea, and a blowjob is only like $20, but i don't go out to buy me one ;)
[07:53] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Synaptic shows the documentation, but not wine.
[07:53] <b0xen> othernoob: Lol are they really that cheap?
[07:53] <Seveas> othernoob, language...
[07:53] <LinuxDolt> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: ubotu should have sent you a message
[07:53] <othernoob> b0xen: yea, sometimes cheaper, depends on the establishment you visit ;)
[07:54] <Seveas> othernoob, ....
[07:54] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> He did. I'm loading the site.
[07:54] <othernoob> Seveas: what? i didn't use the bad bad word this time ;)
[07:54] <GyLv0> i'm installing ubuntu ! it's fun !! :D
[07:54] <Seveas> wafer thin ice...
[07:54] <GyLv0> FUCK WINDOWS
[07:54] <GyLv0> :x
[07:54] <GyLv0> ^_^
[07:54] <lui> hey I have a problem with apt-get
[07:54] <Seveas> GyLv0, welcome aboard the Ubuntu ship
[07:55] <Seveas> lui, wazzup?
[07:55] <GyLv0> :p
[07:55] <deprave_> !scribus
[07:55] <ubotu> deprave_: Wish i knew
[07:55] <deprave_> !tell deprave about scribus
[07:55] <deprave_> LIES
[07:55] <LinuxDolt> ok, i'm trying to build wine from CVS as outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 and getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/999 | still not fixed, anyone?
[07:55] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Okay, I'm gonna do this tutorial. I'll see you guys later.
[07:55] <GyLv0> i'll want to know one thing
[07:55] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !paste
[07:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:55] <GyLv0> ....
[07:55] <GyLv0> does CS can run with linux ?
[07:56] <GyLv0> i think no
[07:56] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Counter Strike?
[07:56] <GyLv0> ye
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> CS?
[07:56] <GyLv0> yes
[07:56] <GyLv0> Counter Strike
[07:56] <Seveas> woohooo pastebin is at 1000 posts :)
[07:56] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Yeah. Cedega and wine can run it i think.
[07:56] <Kev0r> yes GyLv0
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> Seveas:  heh
[07:56] <GyLv0> okay
[07:56] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Anyways,  ask a frenchman.
[07:56] <GyLv0> i'm french ;)=
[07:56] <GyLv0> ;)
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> Seveas:  take bets on how long it will be untill 2000?
[07:56] <wh0rd> how's it going!?
[07:56] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> They are all linux and couterstrike enthusiasts.
[07:57] <wh0rd> i just installed ubuntu
[07:57] <wh0rd> it rocks!
[07:57] <sun> GyLv0, there is a much better game than CS for linux
[07:57] <hybrid_goth> wh0rd:  congrats
[07:57] <Kev0r> GyLv0: Get Cedega, it runs CS goed hoor
[07:57] <Seveas> hybrid_goth, hehe :)
[07:57] <lui> Seveas: I was installing the mldonkey-server and I close the terminal accidentally. then now I try to install it again and this is the message I receive:  sudo apt-get install mldonkey-server
[07:57] <lui> Reading package lists... Done
[07:57] <lui> Segmentation faulty tree... 50%
[07:57] <Joose^> hi hi
[07:57] <GyLv0> i don't know, it does... 2h ago
[07:57] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> whord: whord
[07:57] <GyLv0> than ive it on my computer
[07:57] <Joose^> how i can install aptitude?
[07:57] <GyLv0> i'm in love too !!!
[07:57] <GyLv0> :)
[07:57] <hybrid_goth> Joose^:  it should already be installed
[07:57] <Raskall> Joose^: isnt that there by default?
[07:58] <Seveas> lui, hmm
[07:58] <Xenguy> GyLv0: straight WINE: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=counterstrike
[07:58] <sun> GyLv0, have you ever played TC:E?
[07:58] <GyLv0> no
[07:58] <GyLv0> :x
[07:58] <plastic> is there any disk defragmenter or something like that in ubuntu?
[07:58] <Joose^> Raskall yeah, sorry xD a stupid question
[07:58] <sun> GyLv0, it is 20x better than CS imo
[07:59] <hybrid_goth> plz no flame wars now
[07:59] <Seveas> plastic, you don't need that :)
[07:59] <deprave_> anyone know where i can get scribus?
[07:59] <GyLv0> lol, what's is ? tc:e ?
[07:59] <Seveas> lui, do all apt-get commands do that?
[07:59] <sun> not a flame war, a new experience :-)
[07:59] <plastic> Seveas, why you think so?
[07:59] <Seveas> lui, and aptitude too?
[07:59] <ysm> plastic: you want to deframent a fat fs?
[07:59] <lui> Seveas: then I try another command to check, and wrote: $sudo apt-get upgrade and I receive the same message
[08:00] <plastic> ysm i have a fat32 and ext3 and ext2...
[08:00] <wh0rd> i'm spreading this to my friends, relatives, co-workers... it's just too nice not be unoticed!!!
[08:00] <b0xen> Sun: Wolfenstien plays on Linux?
[08:00] <lui> let me see aptitude
[08:00] <sun> b0xen, of course!
[08:00] <wh0rd> spanks for this distro adios!
[08:00] <Seveas> plastic, ext* don't fragment
[08:00] <flodine> a guys what program counts down before it takes a snapshot
[08:00] <Seveas> fat32 you can defrag in windows
[08:00] <b0xen> Sun: Cool. Too bad ATI only releases drivers in .rpm format.
[08:00] <sun> b0xen, you can get enemy territory native binary or source code for linux
[08:00] <lui> oops! s**t aptitude too
[08:00] <Seveas> if you don't have windows, don't use fat32 :)
[08:01] <Seveas> lui, hmm
[08:01] <bateau> hey! how can i fix so that i can play mp3?
[08:01] <flodine> anyone
[08:01] <lui> Seveas: I have a mess, right?
[08:01] <Seveas> !mp3
[08:01] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:01] <b0xen> bateau: The wiki has somthing about playing restricted media formats.
[08:01] <cefx> bateau, http://www.ubuntuguide.com :)
[08:01] <Seveas> lui, eh, yeah
[08:01] <sun> b0xen, you can use 'alien' to convert rpm into ubuntu format i think
[08:01] <LinuxJones> bateau, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <Seveas> lui, run strace apt-get update and paste the output on the pastebin
[08:01] <b0xen> sun: Yeah but will the binaries actually work.
[08:02] <bateau> oki :) thnx
[08:02] <flodine> help what program counts down before it takes a snapshot
[08:02] <sun> b0xen, i'm not sure. i have never tried it
[08:02] <LinuxJones> Seveas, can I get a listing of all of ubotu's entries somewhere ?
[08:02] <hybrid_goth> linux supports hfs+ right?
[08:03] <Seveas> LinuxJones, http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[08:03] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.2
[08:03] <LinuxJones> Seveas, awesome thanks :)
[08:03] <lui> Seveas: excuse me, what is the pastebin :P
[08:03] <hybrid_goth> !paste
[08:03] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:03] <b0xen> sun: well I have. I tried it in slackware once. No dice.
[08:04] <hybrid_goth> lui:  a place to put real large text
[08:04] <LinuxDolt> ok, i'm trying to build wine from CVS as outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 and getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/999 | still not fixed, anyone?
[08:04] <b0xen> sun: The 3D acceleration was worse then with the regular opensource "ati" driver.
[08:04] <hybrid_goth> it gives you an uniqui url to store it
[08:04] <lui> thanks hybrid_goth
[08:04] <hybrid_goth> np
[08:04] <lui> !paste
[08:04] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:04] <sun> b0xen, ah that sucks
[08:05] <b0xen> sun: I'm buying nvidia from now on. Their drivers aren't open source, but they give you this app that just recompiles it on whatever distro you're using.
[08:05] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I got farther than that, but it says it can't find one of the libs.
[08:05] <luxem> hih
[08:05] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> winetools.
[08:05] <b0xen> sun: without actually giving you access to the source.
[08:05] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I think I need a later version number.
[08:05] <b0xen> sun: So it works on a lot of different distros.
[08:05] <sun> b0xen, good move. i have this old TNT card and have no problems in any distro
[08:06] <LinuxDolt> this is definitely getting frustrating
[08:06] <Derkommissar> AHH i finaly got a cdr
[08:06] <Derkommissar> :-)
[08:06] <Derkommissar> it costed me 10 dollars. but i got it
[08:06] <sun> b0xen, you could trade ur ATI for an Nvidia from one of your windows buddies
[08:06] <RLG>  Greetings in the name of Jesus!
[08:06] <RLG> Welcome, skalpel!!
[08:06] <hybrid_goth> $10 for a cdr?
[08:06] <Derkommissar> Now what distro of linux can i download to fix the problem :-)
[08:06] <b0xen> sun: Yeah but my new computer is a laptop :(
[08:07] <Derkommissar> yes!!!!
[08:07] <RLG> Welcome, GazaM!!
[08:07] <hybrid_goth> wow
[08:07] <Derkommissar> but i feel good, i have a chance of fixing ubuntu
[08:07] <b0xen> sun: ATI X200M Xpress or somthing like that.
[08:07] <hybrid_goth> i picked up 5 for a third of the price
[08:07] <deprave_> how do you use a .deb file
[08:07] <lui> Seveas: should I put your name in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?
[08:07] <Seveas> no, your own :)
[08:07] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, what's wrong ?
[08:07] <RLG> Welcome, asbjoert!!
[08:07] <b0xen> deprave_: man apt
[08:07] <lui> ok
[08:07] <RLG> Welcome, ubes!!
[08:07] <hybrid_goth> Derkommissar:  heh
[08:07] <Seveas> deprave_, dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:07] <deprave_> thanks
[08:08] <Derkommissar> here its whats happening.... i start ubuntu it runs fsck, then it says i need to press ctrl-d or enter root password, but at that point the keyboard doesnt work
[08:08] <lui> done
[08:08] <sun> b0xen, that's tough. can't do much about laptop hardware
[08:08] <Derkommissar> i been comming here and the only thing people tell me is to get a live cd
[08:08] <ubes> where i can get xxms?
[08:08] <Derkommissar> im in ecuador working, I FINALLY found a cdr to burn a live cd
[08:08] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, did you compile your own kernel ?
[08:08] <Derkommissar> :-)
[08:08] <Seveas> lui: sudo strace apt-get update
[08:08] <Derkommissar> Nope
[08:08] <sun> ubes, do you mean XMMS?
[08:08] <Seveas> it needs to really run ;)
[08:08] <b0xen> sun: Unless of course you have an nVidia "to go" card. Which are user upgradable even in laptops. Again displaying nVidia's superiority.
[08:09] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, your like booting into single user mode or something
[08:09] <sun> b0xen, wow i didn't think that was even possible
[08:09] <Derkommissar> i tried
[08:09] <Derkommissar> still goes trough fsck
[08:09] <Derkommissar> with the no keyboard to input
[08:10] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> So if the console sudo or what ever says it can't come back with my installation, should I use synaptic to install what I think is the same thing?
[08:10] <b0xen> sun: Yup. nvidia is just better. And it pisses me off because I always like rooting for the underdog (ATI, AMD, etc.) but this time the biggest company is just the best.
[08:10] <lui> Seveas: oops!!!
[08:10] <Derkommissar> LinuxJones, this is a major ubuntu bug
[08:10] <Determinist> is there any way to remove those cursed stupid games from this system?
[08:10] <bateau> how can i play divx and xvid then?
[08:11] <Derkommissar> now i need a small distro of linux, since my bandwith is limited.... so that i can run fsck from it
[08:11] <Derkommissar> any recomendation
[08:11] <sun> b0xen, yeah it's a rare occurence
[08:11] <dobber> hay
[08:11] <Derkommissar> under 10 megs would be great
[08:11] <Determinist> bateau, install either gstreamer or xine with totem ... end of story
[08:11] <bateau> hmm, ok. whats totem?
[08:11] <Seveas> Determinist, sure, mark them for removal in synaptic, or apt-get remove them
[08:11] <b0xen> bateau: Totem is a media player.
[08:11] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Determinist: thank you. I've been wanting that too.
[08:12] <dobber> :S
[08:12] <Determinist> you're welcome guys :)
[08:12] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, I have never heard of anything like this...cat /etc/inittab | grep id and see what your default runlevel is set to ...it should be set to 2 like this >> id:2:initdefault:
[08:12] <Determinist> Seveas, one problem mate, you ever tried removing those using synaptic?
[08:12] <Determinist> Seveas, i swear, whoever made these dependencies oughta be shot lol
[08:12] <Derkommissar> LinuxJones, Im not able to access the system
[08:12] <Seveas> Determinist, why?
[08:13] <Derkommissar> Thats why im downloading a linux live cd
[08:13] <RLG> Anyone able to help with java on firefox?
[08:13] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, you can't even boot into single user mode ?
[08:13] <zyga> hello
[08:13] <Derkommissar> Nope
[08:13] <Determinist> Seveas, it marks half of gnome's libs for removal
[08:13] <zyga> I'd like to install ubuntu via network
[08:13] <zyga> how do I start
[08:13] <Derkommissar> Single user mode goes trough FSCK too
[08:13] <Seveas> Determinist, hmm
[08:13] <zyga> the box has no cd/floppy
[08:13] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, is there anything of value on that hard drive ?
[08:13] <Derkommissar> and it get stuck in the same place
[08:13] <Derkommissar> a lot
[08:13] <Seveas> gnome libs should not depend on games, are you sure you remove the correct ones?
[08:13] <Derkommissar> but the hd is not bad
[08:13] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, argh
[08:14] <bateau> hmm, i cant access my windows pc, whats wrong? i can see it, but i cant access it
[08:14] <Derkommissar> :(
[08:14] <Determinist> Seveas, gnome-games should be right, i suspect :)
[08:14] <Derkommissar> im donloading trinity and DSL linux
[08:14] <Seveas> Determinist, kinda
[08:14] <Derkommissar> see if i can mount the partitions from it using a live cd
[08:14] <Derkommissar> and run fsck
[08:14] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> So if the console sudo or what ever says it can't come back with my installation, should I use synaptic to install what I think is the same thing?
[08:14] <lui> Seveas: It seems too big, I can't copy it all
[08:14] <Davey> zyga, without a cd or floppy, you're SOL
[08:14] <Seveas> Determinist, doesn't want to remove that much for me...
[08:15] <Derkommissar> LinuxJones, Is there a way to tell ubuntu to bypass fsck ?
[08:15] <Davey> zyga, $11 will buy an external USB floppy, that should work :)
[08:15] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Never mind. I'm just gonna do it.
[08:15] <Seveas> lui, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | python pastebin
[08:15] <Determinist> Seveas, gonna try again
[08:15] <Seveas> Determinist, mind a little private flood? (11 lines)
[08:16] <Determinist> Seveas, of course not
[08:16] <zyga> Davey: not available
[08:16] <Davey> zyga, then you're SOL
[08:16] <zyga> Davey: anyway the laptop has network boot
[08:16] <zyga> Davey: I guess I'll try to set that up
[08:16] <Davey> zyga, ubuntu has no network bootable installer
[08:16] <Davey> that I know of at least
[08:16] <Iceman> Dang, ubuntu work well on AMD 64 if you run the 32 bit version
[08:16] <zyga> Davey: hmm is there any way to boot anything else and then install ubuntu?
[08:17] <Davey> zyga, no
[08:17] <Davey> not that I know of
[08:17] <zyga> Davey: hmm
[08:17] <cefx> Iceman, yeah
[08:17] <lui> Seveas: Ok, there is it
[08:17] <cefx> I'm running that :)
[08:17] <cefx> (  ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary : 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | : X-Chat v.2.4.3
[08:17] <cefx> (  ) 3% user, 0.4% sys, 3.4% nice, 93% idle | [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||]  ( 6.9% )
[08:17] <cefx> oops
[08:17] <cefx> sorry Sev :)
[08:17] <Davey> heh
[08:17] <Iceman> cefx would run 64 bit .. but it lacks features yet ..
[08:17] <cefx> iceman me too
[08:17] <RLG> Amaranth, are you available for pc a minute?
[08:18] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I like ubuntu. It makes me think of a picture of a penguin eating an apple.
[08:18] <jk_> anybody of you like to help with wireless network? :)
[08:18] <Seveas> lui, it works now I guess :)
[08:18] <bina> hi, every 20 minutes Cron Daemon sends me an email (root, which is forwarded to my mailbox) saying /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: line 812: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: No such file or directory.  According to webmin there are no cron jobs scheduled.  There any way I can stop this?
[08:19] <Derkommissar> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu go to http://oma.ajatus.org/habazi/pic/penguin_and_apple.gif
[08:19] <bina> its not someone trying to do something remotely is it? cos I had a load of ssh login attempts the other day :D
[08:19] <bina> :S*
[08:19] <Derkommissar> thats as close as i can get :-P
[08:19] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, you can in the /etc/fstab file but you can't get get to it without first being able to mount the partition :(
[08:19] <lui> Seveas: lets see...
[08:19] <LinuxDolt> ok, i'm trying to build wine from CVS as outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 and getting the following error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/999 | still not fixed, anyone?
[08:20] <Geist|Patrick> hi
[08:20] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Hehe. I ike it, but in that picture they are friends.
[08:20] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, you still have the ubuntu installer disk ?
[08:20] <Geist|Patrick> someone really should add the 8.14.13 driver from ati to synaptic
[08:20] <Derkommissar> or better yet http://www.osric.com/chris/linuxppc/penguin_apple.png
[08:20] <Derkommissar> No
[08:20] <Geist|Patrick> that driver is impressive in comparsion to its successors
[08:20] <erisco> okay i have installed wine, but what is the command for wine to run a program?
[08:20] <Derkommissar> im downloading a live cd
[08:20] <Geist|Patrick> the one in synaptic is crap
[08:20] <Geist|Patrick> but i need help
[08:21] <RLG> On my firefox on ubuntu, the java applets won't work. I've installed java plugin for it. Not sure what to do.
[08:21] <Geist|Patrick> how can i add a image that hides the boot up
[08:21] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, ok you can add a 0 to like the 6th field for your partition's entry in /etc/fstab. that will disable fsck from running.
[08:21] <Geist|Patrick> how is that called in linux
[08:21] <Derkommissar> im gonna do that
[08:21] <Geist|Patrick> what should i look for?
[08:21] <HappyFool>  bina: may it's in /etc/cron.d or /etc/cron.* somewhere
[08:21] <Derkommissar> as soon as i can mount it
[08:21] <lui> Seveas: I have the same message
[08:22] <Seveas> odd
[08:22] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: something like that: http://www.bootsplash.org/
[08:22] <Seveas> do other commands have it too?
[08:22] <Derkommissar> i would just have to run it mannually periodically so the system doesnt crap out
[08:22] <erisco> as in i start up the root terminal, type in 'wine'.... but it complains I don't have enough arguments. How do I add the argument to open my executable?
[08:22] <Geist|Patrick> ya
[08:22] <Geist|Patrick> how are they called
[08:22] <lui> yep
[08:22] <Geist|Patrick> splashimages?
[08:22] <Geist|Patrick> splashart?
[08:22] <HappyFool> LinuxDolt: try 'dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a' to find out what package the  file belongs to, and try removing it (but be careful...)
[08:22] <Seveas> lui, which ones?
[08:23] <jk_> i have a D-Link AirPlus Xtreme G+ DWL-G520+, somebody said it would work with madwifi, and therefore with ubuntu, out-of-box. i plugged it in, and it do indeed find the wireless signal, send some packets, but does not receive any :( can anybody out there help?
[08:23] <LinuxJones> Derkommissar, this is an ext2 partition right ?
[08:23] <MAPD> how to install wine in ubuntu?
[08:23] <jk_> apt-get install wine?
[08:24] <raven3x7> anyone know if there is a way to see hidden windows folders/files with nautilus
[08:24] <cefx> nah there's a bunch of versions lol
[08:24] <LinuxDolt> HappyFool: well, ain't THAT funny, that's the very thing that the guide tells me SHOULD be included XD
[08:24] <joachim_> hi
[08:24] <erisco> you have to configure ubuntu to add the repositories for wine
[08:24] <joachim_> anyone here tried to install Enlightenment?
[08:24] <lui> time, aptitude
[08:24] <erisco> check http://www.winehq.com
[08:24] <MAPD> jk_ do i need to get a repository for wine?
[08:24] <erisco> MAPD, yes you do
[08:24] <Quest-Master> MAPD: no
[08:24] <Quest-Master> :o
[08:25] <jk_> :P
[08:25] <MAPD> ?
[08:25] <jk_> try... apt-cache search wine
[08:25] <MAPD> i mean
[08:25] <erisco> ?
[08:25] <MAPD> i saw on ubuntu's site a thing
[08:25] <MAPD> like that
[08:25] <erisco> with synaptic you add a repository
[08:25] <erisco> it is like http://wine.sourceforge.com
[08:25] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: they're generally called bootsplash
[08:25] <erisco> i think
[08:25] <MAPD> erisco
[08:26] <Coss> The disc you burn ubunto iso onto, does it have to be bootable?
[08:26] <MAPD> i have download limits
[08:26] <Quest-Master> no
[08:26] <MAPD> so can i
[08:26] <Quest-Master> Wine is in multiverse or universe I believe
[08:26] <MAPD> use a PT repository?
[08:26] <Geist|Patrick> twistedpair: ok
[08:26] <HappyFool> Coss: well, the iso is a bootable image
[08:26] <Geist|Patrick> how can i activate that?
[08:26] <Quest-Master> No need to add an unofficial repository
[08:26] <jk_> nobody had any idea how to solve my wifi problem?
[08:26] <HappyFool> Coss: i think if you just burn the ISO, everything should Just Work
[08:26] <Coss> HappyFool, good but the hardware (disc) has it to be bootable?
[08:26] <CGA> hi all
[08:26] <Quest-Master> jk_: best idea would be to ask the people over at madwifi.sf.net
[08:27] <jk_> i wil try
[08:27] <CGA> how do i install a .deb on ubuntu please?
[08:27] <jowi> CGA, dpkg -i package.deb
[08:27] <Determinist> CGA, dpkg -i <fn.deb>
[08:27] <CGA> is it dpkg -i file.deb?
[08:27] <jk_> dpkg -i xxx.deb
[08:27] <CGA> thx
[08:27] <HappyFool> Coss: your computer must be able to boot from the CD-ROM
[08:27] <jk_> heh
[08:27] <CGA> thx
[08:27] <JRlinux> Latest live Kubuntu does not recognize my Celeron CPU.  I was surprised.
[08:27] <Coss> HappyFool, yes it can
[08:27] <Quest-Master> jk_: http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/#03
[08:28] <Determinist> JRlinux, define recognize
[08:28] <HappyFool> Coss: then you should be ok
[08:28] <Coss> HappyFool, but do you have to buy some special cd for it?
[08:28] <HappyFool> Coss: oh, no
[08:28] <lui> Seveas: time have it too but apt-cache doesn't
[08:28] <Coss> good
[08:28] <Coss> then i think ill get it to work now
[08:28] <juanej> do you know any application like clonecd for gnome?
[08:28] <[KoRY] > i need help.
[08:28] <Seveas> lui, hmm, I think you have a really serious problem
[08:28] <Seveas> lui, either bad memory or something important is corrupt
[08:29] <[KoRY] > i just downloaded this ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot ) and im confused on what to do.
[08:29] <Seveas> run memtest from the bootmenu to find out whether you have bad mem
[08:29] <JRlinux> Determinist It reads the CPU... "Coppermine..."  But says it can't deal with it.  I forget the exact words.  And then it stops booting.
[08:29] <Seveas> if your memory is good: I'm afraid only a reinstall will help
[08:29] <Determinist> JRlinux, this is weird
[08:29] <JRlinux> md5 checks
[08:29] <juanej> do you ppl know any application like clonecd for gnome?
[08:29] <erisco> what is the syntax to open an application with wine?
[08:29] <Determinist> JRlinux, you sure you're not trying to run the wrong version/arch on that poor celeron?
[08:29] <juanej> plz somebody
[08:29] <lui> Seveas: but man, what happened?
[08:30] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: you've got to patch your kernel
[08:30] <erisco> for those of you who need a good ethernet monitor, etherape is really cool
[08:30] <raven3x7> anyone know if there is a way to see hidden windows folders/files with nautilus?
[08:30] <erisco> just downladed it
[08:31] <JRlinux> Determinist   I am afraid I do not know what you mean.  version?   arch?  I think it was 386... The last one listed in Distrowatch.
[08:31] <Seveas> lui, I don't have a clue
[08:31] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu>  Hey guys, I have GCC installed, but it is saying that it can't find an appropriate compiler.
[08:31] <JRlinux> Lemme see if I still have the info...
[08:31] <Seveas> lui, mind if send you a private message?
[08:31] <CGA> how do i upgrade a library which is not pkg'd in repositories?  i need a > version
[08:32] <lui> Seveas: no problem
[08:32] <Seveas> CGA, it helps if you tell which lib :)
[08:32] <CGA> libvorbis and derivate
[08:32] <twistedpair> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: what is saying that?
[08:32] <JRlinux> Determinist ... kubuntu-5.04.5 i-386 live...
[08:32] <CGA> Seveas,  libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2  libvorbisfile3
[08:32] <Geist|Patrick> weired
[08:32] <[KoRY] > Is there a way to download ubuntu thats not a .ISO format?
[08:33] <Geist|Patrick> why does amarok have no sound?
[08:33] <Geist|Patrick> with gnome?
[08:33] <jowi> Geist|Patrick, try to disable esd (killall esd) temporarily to see if that works
[08:33] <twistedpair> [KoRY] : there are torrents as well
[08:34] <juanej> how do i upload my ubuntu to the last ver?
[08:34] <Seveas> CGA, if you need a newer version than available in hoary, you can request a backport from breezy. If you need something even newer than that you will have to compile yourself
[08:34] <twistedpair> [KoRY] : but still results in a iso on your hdd; what would you prefer?
[08:35] <raven3x7> JRlinux, are you sure you didnt get the AMD64 one?
[08:35] <CGA> Seveas,  how do i ask breezy?
[08:35] <Geist|Patrick> xine has no sound aswell
[08:35] <Seveas> packages.ubuntu.com can tell you
[08:35] <raven3x7> ooops
[08:35] <Geist|Patrick> siystem sounds are working
[08:35] <CGA> Seveas, just add repository in lists??
[08:35] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> The terminal said that. I went into synaptic, and marked gcc for installation. Despite the fact that gcc 3.3 was allready installed.
[08:36] <CGA> Seveas, if yes  can you tell me where to find those rep?
[08:36] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: have you tried shutting esd down?
[08:36] <juanej> twistedpair, do u know any application like clonecd?
[08:36] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I ran the command again, and now it is running I think.
[08:36] <Geist|Patrick> oh... i didntt noticed...
[08:36] <Geist|Patrick> i try it now :)
[08:36] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> checking this, that, the other thing. Yes, no yes no yes no
[08:36] <JRlinux> raven3x7 I am reading the file I downloaded.  So unless Distrowatch made the mistake, I do not think it is a mistake.  But I am glad to hear there is an AMD64 version, since I may be getting one this Tuesday.
[08:37] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> checking for checking for
[08:37] <Geist|Patrick> no sound either
[08:37] <Geist|Patrick> whats wrong here
[08:37] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> lot sof yeses.
[08:37] <poningru> [KoRY] : do you have a cd rom?
[08:37] <poningru> cause ubuntu sends out install cds
[08:37] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> You think it's compiling?
[08:38] <poningru> http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[08:39] <CGA> Seveas, ping
[08:39] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Now it says config.status at the beginning and it keeps saying creating things.
[08:39] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> dlls/*/makefile
[08:39] <Velcan> so ... anyone know if there's a secret to getting gdesklets to work properly or is it always a resource hog?
[08:39] <twistedpair> juanej: if you need a gui use something like k3b or x-cd-roast
[08:39] <juanej> does k3b work on gnome?
[08:39] <Velcan> juanej: yes
[08:39] <levander> Anybody has noticed that k3b lets you write more data on a disc than nautilus?
[08:40] <CGA> juanej, yes it odes
[08:40] <juanej> ok thx
[08:40] <CGA> *does
[08:40] <CGA> np
[08:40] <Velcan> nautilus can if you enable 'overburn'
[08:40] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> nevermind it said to grab a lunch or two. I'll see you guys later.
[08:40] <hybrid_goth> why is that?
[08:40] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> I'm gonna shut off gaim to free up resources.
[08:40] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Thanks for all the help.
[08:40] <teimu> hi, im trying to apt-get install the sun JRE package, but im getting two errors: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), how can i fix this?
[08:40] <CGA> anyone can tell me where to find breezy repositories?
[08:41] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: run the apps from console and see whether you get an error
[08:41] <levander> Velcan: so k3b is overburnning? I haven't changed any of the options in either nautilus or k3b
[08:41] <juanej> eyy
[08:41] <Velcan> yea i believe k3b does by default
[08:41] <juanej> when i try to install k3b with the packets manager...
[08:41] <Velcan> don't quote me on that though ... chech in prefferances :P
[08:41] <juanej> it needs kde too
[08:41] <Velcan> go spelling!
[08:41] <othernoob> Velcan: no, k3b does not overburn by default
[08:42] <Geist|Patrick> twistedpair: ok
[08:42] <Geist|Patrick> gxine has sound
[08:42] <Geist|Patrick> xine not
[08:42] <Geist|Patrick> weired
[08:42] <CGA> juanej, i have it installed with gnome and no KDE here
[08:42] <hybrid_goth> whats overburn?
[08:42] <Geist|Patrick> isnt it the same application?
[08:42] <CGA> anyone can tell me where to find breezy repositories?
[08:42] <twistedpair> juanej: it doesn't need whole kde
[08:42] <othernoob> hybrid_goth: burn more data on a cdr than for example 700mb
[08:43] <hybrid_goth> how does it do that?
[08:43] <Velcan> CGA: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:43] <levander> Velcan: I'm checking now, but how dangerous is overburnning?  Should I disable it for higher stability when burning discs?
[08:43] <CGA> Velcan, thx
[08:43] <hybrid_goth> CGA:  the same as hoary but hoay then is changed to breezy
[08:43] <Velcan> not sure I havent ever used it ^_^
[08:43] <LinuxJones> CGA, breezy has lots of problems and things are well broken.
[08:43] <juanej> and, how do u ppl install it? with synpatic?
[08:44] <Velcan> juanej: yes or apt-get
[08:44] <hybrid_goth> LinuxJones:  X has been fixed though!
[08:44] <juanej> and what about downloading it from the website?
[08:44] <CGA> thx you both
[08:44] <levander> Velcan: that was a response to me about never having used it?
[08:45] <CGA> but i need to fecth only a couple of libs
[08:45] <levander> Velcan: what about gnomebaker?  overburn is enabled by default there?  gnomebaker let me write as much data as k3b does.
[08:45] <Velcan> levander: yes i havent ever used the overburn option, havent really felt the need
[08:45] <kpeterson> Can anyone help me set up my proftpd server?  I think I have it set up correctly for anonymous access and I seem to get a connection when using full featured ftp clients, but I need people to be able to access it from the ftp browsers integrated into IE or mozilla, which are not able to connect to my server.  is this a problem with passive ftp or something? any suggestions?
[08:46] <levander> Velcan: don't see anything in k3b options about overburn, still looing...
[08:46] <Velcan> levander: i was wrong about overburn being enable by default
[08:46] <levander> Velcan: so no idea why k3b lets you write more data than nautilus?
[08:46] <Velcan> juanej: you wondering how to install k3b?
[08:46] <jowi> kpeterson, i wouldn't know. i only use proftpd for standard ftp.
[08:46] <levander> Velcan: it's just that I'm getting a lot of unusable discs after I burn them, and I'm trying to figur eout why
[08:47] <juanej> well im using that synpatic thing
[08:47] <juanej> but what about apps that are not in synpatic for download?
[08:47] <juanej> may i use apt-get?
[08:47] <jowi> levander, have you turned on burn-proof in gconf-editor?
[08:47] <levander> juanej: I'd try to just use the apps in synaptic.
[08:47] <levander> juanej: apt-get uses the same repositories that synaptic does
[08:48] <Velcan> juanej: well there are lots of options out there but some times i have found you can end up in 'dependancy hell'
[08:48] <kpeterson> jowi does your server work by just going to ftp://yourip on a web browser?
[08:48] <levander> juanej: synaptic is just more user friendly
[08:48] <Geist|Patrick> still no sound
[08:48] <jowi> kpeterson, i will try
[08:48] <Geist|Patrick> and in console nothing unexpected
[08:48] <juanej> ok
[08:48] <Geist|Patrick> no complaints nor any issues i could identify
[08:48] <juanej> but what if the app is not there?
[08:48] <levander> Velcan: how do you know that you were wrong about overburning being enabled by default in k3b?  Did you find the overburn option in k3b?  I can't find it anywhere.
[08:48] <Derkommissar> LinuxJones, i know you just told me howto bypass fsck at the startup
[08:49] <Velcan> juanej: you can find them online
[08:49] <Derkommissar> can you tell me that again ?
[08:49] <Derkommissar> im so sorry
[08:49] <levander> juanej: there are an incredible amount of apps in the ubuntu repositories.  If it's not there, I'd be surprised if you need it.
[08:49] <Velcan> levander: no someone here corrected me on it
[08:49] <lJlolel> i apt-getinstalled xfce, now how do i run it?
[08:49] <juanej> uhmm
[08:49] <Seveas> lJlolel, log out
[08:49] <levander> Velcan: remember who?
[08:49] <Seveas> and choose xfce
[08:49] <jowi> kpeterson, yes. it works fine. up pops a loginwindow and i can log in to it. but i do not have anonymous turned on.
[08:49] <Seveas> and log in :)
[08:49] <juanej> i was looking for mplayer on synpatic
[08:49] <Velcan> lev i can look :P
[08:49] <lJlolel> when i log outand click session
[08:49] <juanej> but it is not
[08:50] <jowi> kpeterson, and it is a standard installation
[08:50] <lJlolel> the only ones are current session, gnome, and some failsafe stuff
[08:50] <levander> othernoob: where is the overburn option in k3b??
[08:50] <Velcan> othernoob Velcan: no, k3b does not overburn by default
[08:50] <Seveas> lJlolel, install the xfce4 package
[08:50] <jowi> kpeterson, more or less :-)
[08:50] <hybrid_goth> lJlolel:  when you start up it should have a chooser
[08:50] <Seveas> that will drag in all the dependencies you need
[08:50] <kpeterson> jowi ok thanks
[08:50] <othernoob> levander: in the options of k3b ;)
[08:51] <Madpilot> juanej: mplayer is in Ubuntu's repos. search Synaptic for "mplay"
[08:51] <Velcan> juanej: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:51] <lJlolel> Seveas, thanks
[08:51] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:51] <levander> othernoob: i don't see a menu called "options" in k3b
[08:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:51] <juanej> i cant find it
[08:51] <Madpilot> juanej: see ubotu's post just above ^^^
[08:51] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: try choosing another engine in amarok
[08:51] <othernoob> levander: first of all, you will need to install cdrdao to even be able to overburn
[08:51] <Madpilot> juanej: you might not have all the repos enabled - they aren't by default
[08:52] <juanej> i got the shipit.ubuntu.com cds
[08:52] <levander> othernoob: okay, i found it, it's not enabled
[08:52] <juanej> k
[08:52] <levander> othernoob: thanks
[08:52] <othernoob> levander: once you're done with that, open k3b, then settings, configure k3b, and writing, second tab, mark it so its enabled, apply, and done :)
[08:52] <Geist|Patrick> twistedpair: neither artx nor xine-engine are working
[08:52] <othernoob> levander: you're welcome
[08:52] <levander> othernoob: you know why k3b lets you write more data to a DVD ISO than nautilus does?
[08:53] <juanej> ...and what about switching to kde
[08:53] <juanej> what will happen with the gnome apps?
[08:53] <othernoob> levander: i never used nautilus
[08:53] <Velcan> juanej: switching to kde?
[08:54] <juanej> uhhm
[08:54] <juanej> installin it
[08:54] <twistedpair> juanej: gnome apps work with kde; the other way round the same
[08:54] <juanej> what if i want to install kde
[08:54] <juanej> ahmm ok
[08:54] <Velcan> juanej: if you wondering about installing it so you can play with both then i might suggest - apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <levander>  othernoob: this is why I'm worried about writing to much, from /var/log/syslog 'attempt to access beyond end of device
[08:54] <levander> Aug  6 12:58:36 bread kernel: hdc: rw=0, want=68, limit=4'
[08:55] <juanej> where do i look that apt-get install apps?
[08:55] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: you could try that: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:55] <levander> juanej: that question makes no sense
[08:55] <sivang> guys, how can I use the old nvidia driver that still support my GF2 Pro GPU ?
[08:56] <Velcan> juanej: apt-cache search <program name>
[08:56] <juanej> where do i find what apps can i apt-get?
[08:56] <tiglionabbit> hello.  I just installed linux-image-i686, and now xserver wont start.  It says NVIDIA Kernel Module not found
[08:56] <Seveas> juanej, in synaptic you can search. Alternatively you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <juanej> ok
[08:56] <Madpilot> juanej: search in Synaptic - remember it uses the same database as apt-get does
[08:56] <juanej> thx
[08:56] <tiglionabbit> I tried reinstalling nvidia-glx and doing nvidia-glx-config enable again, but it still wont startx
[08:56] <levander> othernoob: k3b is letting me put 4.4 GB on a DVD, you can fit that much on a DVD?
[08:56] <twistedpair> juanej: or look at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <Geist|Patrick> how do i enalble dma for my optical drives?
[08:56] <Madpilot> !dma
[08:57] <Velcan> :P
[08:57] <tiglionabbit> what should I do?
[08:57] <levander> Geist|Patrick: do a search in wiki.ubuntu.com - there's a good page in there about that, very simple
[08:57] <Madpilot> Geist|Patrick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[08:57] <othernoob> levander: yes. 4.4GB is correct
[08:57] <Geist|Patrick> well... i know hdparm
[08:57] <fng> most dvd's are 4.7GB
[08:57] <Geist|Patrick> but how are optical drives called?
[08:57] <levander> othernoob: okay, I'm gonna skip it for now, try again and see if I get that same error in syslog
[08:57] <levander> othernoob: thanks for your help
[08:57] <othernoob> no problem
[08:58] <Madpilot> got to go - party this afternoon - have fun here!
[08:58] <djp> levander: did you get your mouse working?
[08:58] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: they're numbered the same way your hds are
[08:58] <Velcan> Geist|Patrick: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> um, guys, any help?
[08:58] <Geist|Patrick> hdb and hdc may be optical drives then?
[08:59] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:59] <twistedpair> or anything other on your ide controllers
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> you think that will help, Velcan?  It's not finding a kernel module, because I upgraded my kernel
[08:59] <Velcan> o_O
[08:59] <Velcan> i missed that part :P
[09:00] <Kev0r> O_o
[09:00] <Velcan> you can try though
[09:00] <Velcan> it surely wont hurt
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> I said I grabbed "linux-image-i686"
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> hmm
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> it could hurt though, I could mangle my settings that way and get even worse off
[09:02] <andreiz> hello. how do i install a theme for gtk 1.2 ? thanks
[09:02] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: for the most part you can 'enter' all the way through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:02] <Velcan> that's basically what ubuntu does on install
[09:04] <inc595> anyone know some good scripts to automate dns entry in bind
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> well, I googled it and got a forum post that said this kernel image doesn't support restricted modules so you can't use nvidia with it
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> I guess I have to go back
[09:05] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: :( darn
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> how do I go back?  just remove it with apt?
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> I don't have a boot menu
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> I'll just try getting rid of it
[09:06] <Velcan> not sure about that
[09:06] <Velcan> if you try taht apt will warn you 'are you sure'
[09:07] <Velcan> maybe if you do apt-get revove 'the-one-you-dont-want' & install 'the-one-you-do-want' ...
[09:09] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: what happens if you just try to install the old one? will apt let you?
[09:09] <Geist|Patrick> still no sound
[09:09] <Geist|Patrick> i dont know why :(
[09:10] <twistedpair> tiglionabbit: i think installing the old one should do
[09:10] <tiglionabbit> heh, sec, I can't remember the exact package names, I've become dependant on synaptic.  I'll try aptitude
[09:10] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: apt-cache search kernel
[09:11] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: or ... apt-cache search linux-image
[09:12] <twistedpair> Geist|Patrick: but you've got sound in some apps?
[09:12] <kitsch> does anybody now how to change profiles in firefox? it crashed and made me create a new profile, but i want to use default
[09:12] <kaffeend> I need to enter the root password to run an app, but I don't know what it is :s Can anyone help me out please?
[09:12] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 looks like what you might want
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> I know, but...  hey, aptitude just lists the 386 image in my installed packages, where does it list the other?
[09:13] <twistedpair> kaffeend: http://www.myjavaserver.com/~mike001/ubuntu/#gainrootwithoutlogin
[09:13] <kaffeend> twistedpair thanks mate
[09:14] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: if you reboot and 'esc' at to see the grub menu is your old image still there?
[09:14] <sobersabre> split ?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> oh shit
[09:15] <gfxstyler> hi
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> hehe it doesn't seem very happy at me for removing the running kernel
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> and I'm using LiLo.  It didn't let me choose grub
[09:15] <gfxstyler> can someone tell me why i only have write-access to my fat32 partition as root ?
[09:16] <twistedpair> kaffeend: think i sent you the wrong url... loog at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> gfxstyler: because you can't change permissions on fat32 files.  You can mount it for a user though
[09:16] <Raskall> cross your fingers. the dist-upgrade is finished and I am about to boot.
[09:16] <kaffeend> twistedpair nvm thanks - it's up and running
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> gfxstyler: in the fstab entry for it, in the options, say "uid=1000,gid=1000" and it will belong to the first user.  Change those accordingly
[09:17] <gfxstyler> tiglionabbit: thanks, i will try it
[09:17] <teimu> how do i use .bin files?
[09:17] <sivang> Does anybody where I can find the nVidia legacy drivers ?
[09:17] <twistedpair> teimu: bin files what for?
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> gfxstyler: you can get a list of the uid/gid numbers in the file /etc/passwd
[09:17] <teimu> JRE
[09:17] <teimu> jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[09:18] <sivang> (when doing dmesg, I get a msg that I Need the legacy drivers instead of 7667 ones?
[09:18] <atomic0x> make it executable ie.  chmod +x jre*.bin
[09:18] <tiglionabbit> so, with LiLo, is it possible to invoke the menu at boot time, by pressing escape?
[09:18] <gfxstyler> tiglionabbit: thanks, i guess it works :) you're the man
[09:19] <simo> hi
[09:19] <atomic0x> does anyone here have tomboy notes running on 5.04?
[09:19] <Velcan> tiglionabbit: not sure. never seen lilo on my ubuntu
[09:19] <Raskall> ahh.. that went very well.. so far..
[09:19] <Geist|Patrick> thx for helping
[09:19] <Geist|Patrick> bye
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> gfxstyler: you guess it works?  Unmount the partition, and then say "sudo mount -a".  Now try writing to it as the user you gave permissions for
[09:20] <atomic0x> When I try to start tomboy I get dbus errors
[09:20] <mti> hi any germans?
[09:20] <Raskall> I'm on breezy now.. cool.
[09:20] <kezz> shouldn't last long :P
[09:20] <twistedpair> mti: well, austrian but refer to #ubuntu-de for that
[09:21] <mti> thx :)
[09:21] <Velcan> is there a place for ubuntus estimated release dates? kinda like fedoras 'road map'
[09:21] <mti> don't know the channel
[09:21] <kezz> Velcan, try the wiki but i'm not sure precisely
[09:22] <twistedpair> Velcan: every six months
[09:22] <Velcan> ahh :) thanks
[09:23] <Velcan> so how long ago was hoary released?
[09:23] <twistedpair> hoary was 5.04, so breezy will be 5.10
[09:23] <LinuxJones> Velcan, I think next release is in October
[09:23] <LokeDK> how do I make the apache server to support danish characters? with iso-8859-1
[09:23] <LinuxJones> Velcan, it will have Gnome 2.12 ....mmmmmmm
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> Who wants 6.4 to be Ornery Ocelot?
[09:23] <LokeDK> 1.3
[09:23] <kezz> check release notes for hoary
[09:23] <Velcan> :D
[09:23] <jowi> should be every april + october
[09:23] <Velcan> jowi: cool. good to know
[09:23] <dbw> LokeDK: i think it doesn't have anything to do with apache
[09:24] <dbw> LokeDK: make sure you have the fonts installed
[09:24] <LokeDK> dbw, I have.. I can write them and view them on IRC and all other applications
[09:25] <twistedpair> tiglionabbit: nice name
[09:25] <Raskall> ahh.. gui-config of grub in breezy..
[09:25] <twistedpair> using which app?
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> =}  thanks twistedpair
[09:26] <juanej> why does nautilius stay resizing the window everytime i open a new folder?
[09:27] <Zenon_> Anyone know why Ubuntu isn't interested in the DCCA?
[09:27] <dbw> LokeDK: hmm... i'm not sure!  try #apache
[09:27] <LokeDK> Oh okay. I will. Thanks
[09:27] <Nameless1> mozilla is saying i need a java plugin but i have already got java installed can someone tell me what i need to apt-get to fix this problem
[09:28] <DMJC> #gentoo
[09:28] <concept10> offtopic: Anyone here ever connect to the Quakenet server using XChat?
[09:28] <tiglionabbit> Nameless1: to get a java plugin, you need sun-j2re1.5 or sun-j2sdk1.5
[09:28] <tiglionabbit> they are in the hoary-extras repository
[09:28] <twistedpair> concept10: once and never again, why
[09:29] <tiglionabbit> on a backports server
[09:29] <concept10> twistedpair, I cant connect, it says I need to enable identd server and unblock port 113.
[09:29] <Nameless1> tiglionabbit, i have already got  sun-j2re1.5 installed
[09:29] <tiglionabbit> really.  Then I don't know what's wrong
[09:30] <twistedpair> DMJC: what about #gentoo?
[09:30] <Nameless1> tiglionabbit, oh well :(
[09:30] <concept10> twistedpair, why did you say never again?
[09:30] <DMJC> heh n/m
[09:30] <atomic0x> Nameless1: you need to link /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so to your plugins directory
[09:30] <DMJC> I was trying to type /j #gentoo
[09:31] <Nameless1> atomic0x, so i like that directory to what directory? whats the default plugins dir
[09:31] <twistedpair> concept10: yepp, just can't stand the conventions there
[09:31] <dbw> DMJC: NO DON'T GO THERE
[09:31] <dbw> :P
[09:31] <oSx> hi, anyone here installed WoW succesfully with wine? When I insert the game dvd it mounts it automatically but I can see only Installer Tome1 to Installer Tome 4 or 5 and Installer (OS X).app? How can I see the .exe installer?
[09:31] <atomic0x> sorry, to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:31] <DMJC> lol
[09:31] <dbw> oSx: transgaming.com
[09:31] <DMJC> I'm running gentoo atm heh
[09:32] <DMJC> might ubuntu my laptop tho
[09:32] <DMJC> can't be bothered putting gentoo on a celeron
[09:32] <sobersabre> is there an eclipse irc chan ?
[09:32] <oSx> dbw: ive played it with gentoo, but i would just like to know how to view the .exes in terminal
[09:32] <Wermut> [Help]  I have problems burning a backup CD-RW on ubuntu. I tried Gnomebaker, which claims that /mnt/cdrom1 isn't mounted. Trying burn:/// results in an error with invalid encoding.
[09:32] <oSx> dbw: so i could wine the exe :)
[09:32] <kaffeend> Can anyone help me with running a game please?
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> oSx: try browsing the CD
[09:32] <Velcan> kaffeend: what game
[09:32] <dbw> Wermut: install "k3b"
[09:33] <dbw> Wermut: it's great
[09:33] <oSx> tiglionabbit: tried, there i see only those thomes and the .app
[09:33] <kaffeend> Velcan Enemy Territory
[09:33] <Velcan> kaffeend: what problems are you running into?
[09:33] <sobersabre> Wermut: you also will probably need to fix encoding..
[09:34] <hanes12> hi all, im trying to switch from mandriva to ubuntu, the only thing i miss is the control center (mandriva has something similar to windows control panel)... does ubuntu have something like this that i just cant find?
[09:34] <kaffeend> velcan for a start I'm trying to launch it from /home/me/folder/et.x86
[09:34] <sobersabre> which one do u use ? cp1251/koi9r/iso8859-5 ?
[09:34] <Wermut> sobersabre: Could you give me a hint?
[09:34] <twistedpair> hanes12: that's a feature of the kde desktop
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> well, I'm rebooting with a broken lilo.  Wish me luck
[09:35] <Velcan> kaffeend: what vid card?
[09:35] <twistedpair> hanes12: if you like that, try kubuntu instead
[09:35] <andreiz> hello. how do i install a theme for gtk 1.2 ? thanks
[09:35] <tiglionabbit> hanes12: yes, it's the System menu
[09:35] <kaffeend> fx 5700 velcan
[09:35] <sobersabre> Wermut: what do you mean to give you a hint ?
[09:35] <hanes12> twistedpair: no, not the kde control panel, the mandriva control panel (lets you mount drives) start stop services.... makes you have to command line a lot less....
[09:35] <Velcan> kaffeend: isnt there a glx executable?
[09:35] <tiglionabbit> bye
[09:36] <twistedpair> hanes12: on, no there's nothing like that
[09:36] <Velcan> kaffeend: et.glx or something of the sort?
[09:36] <Wermut> Sorry for the bad English, I meant give me some more information, because I actually have no idea where the problem lies.
[09:36] <kaffeend> velcan I don't know - is .glx the extension?
[09:36] <kaffeend> k
[09:36] <Velcan> kaffeend: not sure never install et ... but there is for quake
[09:37] <hanes12> twistedpair: cool i didnt think so..... im am quite thouroughly impressed with ubuntu (and the 50 cd's canonical sent me).... but i dont like typing when i dont need to, think ill stick with mandriva for a while (but wow i like synaptic almost enough to tear me away...)
[09:37] <sobersabre> if the system cannot mount a CD because you specified a wrong encoding (or NLS) it won't help to install k3b
[09:37] <kaffeend> velcan there is a openurl.sh
[09:37] <sobersabre> you need to   tell me which CP is the CD in ( code page - which language)
[09:37] <Velcan> kaffeend: unlikely that's it
[09:37] <twistedpair> hanes12: typing is much more fun ;)
[09:37] <jordan_> Can archive manager open .rar files?
[09:38] <Velcan> kaffeend: that sounds like a script to launch urls from within the game
[09:38] <kaffeend> velcan what about et.sh?
[09:38] <hanes12> twistedpair: i know, its not like i cant do it.... but after mandriva i havent looked in fstab for a year... i dont want to if i dont have tooo
[09:38] <Wermut> *confused* the CD is empty, the CP is German (I guess).
[09:38] <Velcan> kaffeend: so et.glx does not exist i take it?
[09:38] <kaffeend> velcan nope
[09:38] <Velcan> kaffeend: what happens when you run et.x86
[09:39] <juanej> what is the difference between 386, 586 and 686?
[09:39] <sobersabre> Wermut: then it is ok the encoding is bad :)
[09:39] <kaffeend> Velcan screen goes black for half a sec and the game supposedly crashes
[09:40] <sobersabre> you need to install CD burning program, and the fastetst way is to install k3b
[09:40] <twistedpair> hanes12: but if you like synaptic: there's an apt port for rpm-base distris
[09:40] <twistedpair> hanes12: http://apt4rpm.sf.net
[09:40] <juanej> Velcan,  i downloaded k3b and then i installed it
[09:40] <juanej> with synaptic
[09:40] <juanej> but where is it?
[09:40] <sobersabre> Wermut,  run: sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:40] <Wermut> I'll try k3b but why won't it work with GNOME?
[09:41] <hanes12> twistedpair: really? im gonna look for it right now...
[09:41] <sobersabre> Wermut: why not ?
[09:41] <Velcan> juanej: you have to make a launcher
[09:41] <Velcan> juanej: command is just 'k3b'
[09:41] <juanej> ok
[09:41] <Wermut> Because the GNOME tool (Nautilus) complains about the encoding.
[09:41] <Velcan> kaffeend: i messaged you
[09:42] <kaffeend> velcan oops sorry
[09:42] <Velcan> kaffeend: becasue im going to install it as well
[09:42] <sobersabre> Wermut: k3b doesn't rely on nautilus
[09:42] <Velcan> kaffeend: :)
[09:42] <juanej> how do i put the launcher on apps menu?
[09:42] <GeistFloripas> I'm trying to record sound using audacity but i got the following error at initialization: "error accessing I/O sound layer. cannot read or record audio". Some sugestion?
[09:43] <kezz> do you have the correct permissions set in /dev?
[09:43] <Velcan> juanej: copy the launcher to /etc/share/applications/
[09:43] <juanej> ok thank u so much
[09:43] <Velcan> juanej:  and then 'killall gnome-panel'
[09:44] <juanej> what is the killall for?
[09:44] <kezz> to refresh the panel
[09:45] <juanej> omg i think it works :O
[09:45] <juanej> thank u!!!
[09:45] <DVSoftware> hey, anyone with kubuntu here?
[09:45] <^thehatsrule^> juanej: it kills all of the apps with the same name
[09:45] <DVSoftware> my friend has problems with kppp
[09:45] <^thehatsrule^> DVSoftware: use #kubuntu ?
[09:46] <DVSoftware> it "dies unexpectidly"
[09:46] <DVSoftware> with error in console
[09:46] <DVSoftware> Couldn't find interface ppp0: No such device
[09:46] <kuropka> Hi! Does anybody know how I can add/change the application menus in Ubunut?
[09:46] <Wermut> sobersabre: It seems that I'm not expressing myself correctly :) I tried it via Nautilus and Gnomebaker, but it didn't work. Now I'm downloading k3b.
[09:47] <twistedpair> hanes12: synaptic seems to support apt4rpms too (http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/1768/2193/)
[09:47] <sm> kuropka: wait for breezy, it has an editor
[09:47] <DVSoftware> ahh, didn't know for #kubuntu
[09:47] <twistedpair> hanes12: and seems to be maintained by mandriva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic)
[09:47] <Kirsch> anyone here using the fglrx driver for an ATI Mobility?
[09:47] <Stormx> Hey
[09:47] <Kirsch> i'm hvaing problems getting the screen to come on
[09:47] <twistedpair> Kirsch: yessss
[09:48] <twistedpair> twistedpair: can you specify that?
[09:48] <hanes12> twistedpair: yeah because mandriva bought conectiva (which made synaptic).... but i dont think they have incorporated it into their distro yet, even though they own it.....
[09:48] <Stormx> Hey, I can't get audio working in VLC?
[09:49] <twistedpair> hanes12: anyway, it would be a way to stop the rpm-mess
[09:49] <The_Vox> hanes12: they haven't incorporated it yet...tho there's supposed to be some incorporation of new tech into the next beta
[09:49] <concept10> twistedpair, it doesnt
[09:49] <The_Vox> twistedpair: mandriva has urpmi, no need for synaptic or similar stuff
[09:49] <kuropka> sm: "breezy"? Do you know why "applications:///" does not work for menu editing?
[09:50] <Choubaka> Because it was removed from Gnome 2.10
[09:50] <Kirsch> twistedpair: any ideas why I might be having this problem, I set the MonitorLayout to "AUTO, AUTO"
[09:50] <hanes12> twistedpair: no theres no mess, actually mandriva's urpmi is quite good, just not as slick as synaptic... its like a distant second
[09:50] <ags06> why is there another name in my email login
[09:50] <sm> the next ubuntu release
[09:50] <ags06> seems i was hacked
[09:50] <juanej> why does nautilius resize windows everytime i open a folder?
[09:50] <ags06> how can i trace my files
[09:50] <ags06> see which ones changed
[09:50] <hanes12> anyways thanks for the tips
[09:50] <ags06> am running default ubuntu config
[09:50] <Stormx> I can't get audio working in VLC?
[09:51] <twistedpair> i wasn't particular referring to madriva, but to rpm-based distris generally
[09:51] <kuropka> sm: Thanks for the info.
[09:51] <twistedpair> concept10: what doesn't?
[09:51] <concept10> twistedpair, synaptic doesnt fix problems with rpm based distros, the problems are in .rpm itself
[09:51] <jordan_> my cd rom sucks!!!!
[09:51] <sm> no problem
[09:52] <jordan_> why, why, why is it so slow
[09:52] <jordan_> can anyone tell me how to verify that DMA is on?
[09:52] <concept10> twistedpair, i used apt4rpm in fedora for a while, you still have dependency problems
[09:52] <twistedpair> concept10: from my point of view, the problem w/ rpm is that doesn't solve dependencies
[09:52] <concept10> jordan_, hdparm -d
[09:52] <ags06> F-prot
[09:52] <sm> jordan: man hdparm
[09:52] <twistedpair> concept10: for fedora you should try yum
[09:53] <concept10> twistedpair, correct, but synaptic doesnt fix the problem for you
[09:53] <concept10> twistedpair, i know about yum, but I dont use fedora anymore.
[09:53] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, me and my friend have both got broadband (but no fixed IP) connections and are both running Ubuntu
[09:53] <Scholar_Gypsy> I wana ssh into his machine, is it possible?
[09:53] <piksi> is it possible to install ubuntu 5.04 with a newer kernel??
[09:53] <twistedpair> concept10: synaptic doesn't fix it, but only cos its only the gui
[09:53] <Scholar_Gypsy> if yes, how do i do it?
[09:53] <zeedo> Scholar_Gypsy: yes
[09:54] <zeedo> Scholar_Gypsy: you just need to keep track of his IP
[09:54] <zeedo> Scholar_Gypsy: which can be done manually by him telling you it, or by using a dynamic dns services eg.. www.afraid.org
[09:54] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server, and then ssh ip
[09:54] <twistedpair> concept10: the apt-system should fix id (supposing a well maintained repo)
[09:54] <Wermut> k3b worked! Thanks sobersabre and dbw. Though I wonder why it didn't work with the GNOME tools...
[09:54] <Scholar_Gypsy> anacron, do I need to install it or does it have to run on the machine I wana ssh into?
[09:55] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: he have to install the server
[09:55] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: and you use ssh ip -l username
[09:55] <twistedpair> ciao
[09:55] <ags06> how do i install *.deb files
[09:55] <lee__> hi all, I just installed Ubuntu but when I go to Synaptic Package Manager I get an error that that says 'Unable to get exclusive lock' I've checked to see if apt-get etc are running but their not? any ideas?
[09:55] <anacron> ags06: dpkg -i file
[09:55] <Scholar_Gypsy> thx anacron
[09:55] <anacron> np
[09:56] <anacron> ags06: with sudo of course
[09:56] <ags06> thanx
[09:56] <klaym> how can I unrar rar files ?
[09:56] <anacron> klaym: sudo apt-get install rar
[09:56] <klaym> anacron: thx
[09:56] <anacron> :D
[09:56] <anacron> im on fire
[09:56] <Scholar_Gypsy> zeedo, we get the IP from whatismyip.com
[09:57] <anacron> *phew* thanks seveas
[09:57] <Seveas> yw :)
[09:58] <Wermut> quit
[09:58] <LasseL> why is that, when I run openbox, I can't fullscreen vlc anymore -- then gnome panel stay on top
[09:58] <Scholar_Gypsy> anacron, I did that cmd but I dont get a responce on the terminal. its just hanging here:
[09:58] <Scholar_Gypsy> arpan@garfield:~$ ssh 59.92.96.207 -l ishit
[09:58] <Scholar_Gypsy> the cursor is stuck on the next lime
[09:58] <Scholar_Gypsy> * line
[09:58] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: did he install the server?
[09:59] <Seveas> if he's behind a router, he must forward port 22
[09:59] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: are you using firewall's or routers
[09:59] <lee__> anyone have any clue whats going on I?... also saw in the forums with a few people with the same problem but no fix. I also using a Toshiba laptop if that could be a reason
[09:59] <Scholar_Gypsy> we are bost on routers and no firewalls
[09:59] <sm> Scholar_Gypsy: telnet 59.92.96.207 and see if you get a response
[09:59] <Scholar_Gypsy> can I ssh it?
[10:00] <Scholar_Gypsy> sorry, stupid question
[10:00] <anacron> yeah that really was :D
[10:01] <Scholar_Gypsy> sm its "Trying 59.92.96.207"
[10:01] <Scholar_Gypsy> nothing after that
[10:01] <sm> sounds like you're blocked somehow.. firewall rules on your machine, his machine, or something in the network between you
[10:01] <sm> tried the ubuntu wiki for ssh docs ?
[10:02] <Scholar_Gypsy> anacron, listen, I wil give u my IP address, can u plz see if you get any response?
[10:02] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: did you install the ssh server in your machine?
[10:02] <LasseL> telnet 207.44.136.67 9999
[10:02] <Scholar_Gypsy> yeah I did anac
[10:02] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: if YOU wan't to connect into your friends machine, he has to install the server
[10:03] <Scholar_Gypsy> LasseL, it is asking me: By what name do you wish to be mourned?
[10:03] <Scholar_Gypsy> I guess its working then
[10:03] <Coldfire> how do i change the colors from brown to blue?
[10:03] <LasseL> It is a MUD
[10:03] <Scholar_Gypsy> anacron, we have both installed the server and client
[10:03] <LasseL> soul-eating entertainment :)
[10:03] <Scholar_Gypsy> using synaptic
[10:03] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: good
[10:04] <Zedman> I have oone apache 2 webserver installed and use shorewall as a firewall on my ubuntu system. but I can yust connect from localhost to the apache. I stopped shorewall but the apache isn't aviable via my ip-adress. is there something I have to change in the apache configuration or what should I change in the shorewall config ? please help me...
[10:05] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: so are you going to give your ip?
[10:06] <Scholar_Gypsy> i already did, anyway here it is: 61.247.246.192
[10:06] <anacron> okay
[10:06] <anacron> that won't work
[10:06] <Scholar_Gypsy> y wont it work anacron ?
[10:07] <anacron> connection is refused
[10:07] <Kirsch> does anyone have any reason why my mobility radeon is not showing on both screens? only primary? I set MonitorLayout to "AUTO, AUTO"
[10:07] <Scholar_Gypsy> y is it refused?
[10:07] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: because you'r using router?
[10:07] <Scholar_Gypsy> so, cant i do it using a router?
[10:07] <Whitesocks> Zedman: Maybe your firewall is blocking it and you just closed the interface to it.. not the firewall itself. Apache should listen to port 80 when you install it and start it.
[10:07] <Scholar_Gypsy> i really want it to work anacron
[10:07] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: you have to configure your router
[10:08] <Scholar_Gypsy> and what config do I have to do?
[10:08] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: read the router manual :D
[10:08] <Zedman> Whitesocks: I can just connect to the server via localhost
[10:08] <Whitesocks> Zedman: Yes, so i think its a firewall problem...
[10:08] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: you can also try typing 192.168.0.1 in browser
[10:08] <Joose^> hi, i do this in the terminal sudo aptitude install xmms, and print me that the packet xmms isn't disponib..
[10:09] <Zedman> Whitesocks: do you know how to confih shorewall to open port 80 ?
[10:09] <Whitesocks> Zedman: Nope, i dont use that firewall myself.. but it should be in the man page or docs.
[10:09] <anacron> Joose^: is your sources.list right?
[10:09] <rapha> I wonder if it would be possible to have Ubuntu ship with Autopackage pre-installed...
[10:09] <Scholar_Gypsy> wats that address?
[10:10] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: that's an usual router address
[10:10] <Scholar_Gypsy> OK
[10:10] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: check what ifconfig says
[10:10] <Zedman> Whitesocks: that means there is no specially apache configuration I have to do... just to config the firewall...
[10:10] <Joose^> anacron i guess.
[10:11] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: if it's 192.168.0.*** that address should work
[10:11] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: but router's manual will tell
[10:11] <Epod69> hey, i created a symbolic link to limewire and when i run it it says, "Unable to access jarfile LimeWire.jar", it runs fine if i run the program directly without the link, is there something else I need to do?
[10:11] <|lord|> I have a accton 1660 card that i had to set up manualy.. It worked with the ne2000 module "ne". But when i reboot i need to type dhclient eth0, i added the config in /etc/network/ifstate and interfaces.. Anyone know whats the problem?
[10:11] <Scholar_Gypsy> its 192.168.1.1
[10:12] <anacron> Scholar_Gypsy: ifconfig or router's address?
[10:13] <LinuxDolt> !wine
[10:14] <Scholar_Gypsy> but I have forgotten the passwd to the router :D, will have to get that 1st
[10:14] <|lord|> nobody knows, i guess it's just a configfile i've missed.. :S
[10:14] <fgr> hello, for some reason after sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it tells me that mmap error: could not allocate pci mem
[10:14] <Scholar_Gypsy> thats the router's address
[10:15] <fgr> if i use the old xorg.conf it works
[10:16] <anacron> fgr: why don't use you use your old config then?
[10:16] <fgr> anacron, it was the output of fglrxconfig...not using fglrx anymore
[10:17] <Scholar_Gypsy> thanks anacron
[10:17] <fgr> i only modified it loading ati instead of fglrx
[10:17] <Scholar_Gypsy> i wil look into it further and get back if needed
[10:17] <fgr> but note that doing dpkg-rec i use the simplest config: why it does not work?
[10:18] <Nomad_1> Samba's doc's say it supports windows 95,98,nt, and 2000 but would anyone know if it supports XP, because of its ties to 2000?
[10:18] <kristian> Anyone that knows how to change the amount of reserved disk space for root in a ext2 partition?
[10:18] <anacron> Nomad_1: it should work fine
[10:19] <thenostradamus> is breezy really not coming out until october?
[10:19] <sm> kristian: ie, repartition your drive ?
[10:19] <Epod69> Nomad_1, i have tested samba with xp, it works fine, and dont assume because of 2000 support it will support xp as well
[10:19] <Nomad_1> anacron: Thanks. Now the trick is to find a basic tutorial, because I have no clue how to use it :->
[10:19] <Stormx> thenostradamus: True.
[10:19] <crispynix-v6> thenostradamus: that's sooner that I would have expected.
[10:19] <Stormx> What does samba do?
[10:19] <Nomad_1> Epod69: If that were something I'm assuming then would I have asked the question in here?
[10:19] <thenostradamus> y crispy
[10:19] <kristian> sm, no but when you make a new partition you get to choose how much of it that will be reserved for root, I think it's 5% as default and that's a lot if the partition is huge.
[10:19] <crispynix-v6> thenostradamus: breezy is still rather broken
[10:20] <thenostradamus> i see
[10:20] <Stormx> Yeh they had broken X xD
[10:20] <fgr> is it safe if i run apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg, then apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[10:20] <sm> really.. I don't know about that
[10:20] <szaz> HI THERE
[10:20] <Stormx> Hey szaz
[10:20] <sm> maybe man mkfs
[10:20] <Stormx> What does samba do?
[10:20] <Epod69> well the way you said it being tied with 2000 and all sounds like your almost assuming it should work with xp
[10:20] <szaz> anyone know what HAL status 14 means in dmesg output?
[10:20] <Stormx> !samba
[10:20] <ubotu> from memory, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:21] <kristian> sm, this partition right here from the df -h list is full (if you are a user) and not when you run df -h
[10:21] <ted_> hello
[10:21] <kristian> sm, /dev/sda1              size:74G   used:70G     free:0 100% /mnt/sda1
[10:21] <ted_> i have a problem with ubuntu trying to play mohaa which works fine on mepis
[10:22] <sm> I see, that explains a few things
[10:22] <ted_> this is the output from the console of mohaa
[10:22] <Nomad_1> Epod69: If that was what I was assuming then I would have skipped worrying about compatibility issues and gone straight to looking for a tutorial on usage. But as it is, I'm Not assuming that so I came here to see if people had any experience with Samba over a linux + winXP network. If it worked for them then they are compatable.
[10:22] <ted_> Unknown command "fov"
[10:22] <ted_> couldn't exec custom.cfg
[10:22] <ted_> You are now setup for easy mode.
[10:22] <ted_> ----- Client Initialization -----
[10:22] <ted_> Called FadeSound with: 0.000000
[10:22] <ted_> ----- Initializing Renderer ----
[10:22] <ted_> ----- R_Init -----
[10:22] <ted_> ...loading libGL.so: SDL: SDL_GL_LoadLibrary() failed! rc == (-1).
[10:22] <ted_> SDL_GetError() reports "Could not load OpenGL library".
[10:22] <ted_> failed
[10:22] <ted_> ...loading libMesaVoodooGL.so.3.1: SDL: SDL_GL_LoadLibrary() failed! rc == (-1).SDL_GetError() reports "Could not load OpenGL library".
[10:22] <ted_> failed
[10:22] <ted_> ASSERT: [qcommon/common.c:406]  GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[10:22] <ted_>  (fyi)
[10:22] <ted_> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[10:22] <ted_> -----------------------
[10:23] <ted_> Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[10:23] <LinuxJones> umm ted_
[10:23] <burnboyy> anyone know what you type to access a cdrom in terminal?
[10:23] <Epod69> Nomad_1, im not arguing with you
[10:23] <ted_> glxgears is showing 6000 odd fps
[10:23] <LinuxJones> burnboyy, check the cdrom directories in the /media/ folder
[10:24] <mikejoeno> hey guys
[10:24] <burnboyy> cool
[10:24] <ted_> any ideas
[10:24] <mikejoeno> can anyone help me? ive acidentally closed the taskbar on the top of the screen that has everything] 
[10:24] <szaz> NE1 HERE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH WIRELESS CARDS AND NDISWRAPPER?
[10:24] <highvoltage> whoah
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[10:24] <highvoltage> szaz: drop the caps please
[10:25] <szaz> oops capslock
[10:25] <szaz> appologies
[10:25] <highvoltage> np
[10:25] <Nomad_1> Epod69: I know. There's nothing to argue about. I'm just reather dissapointed in the way some people assume that the people that come here haven't done any homework before hand. Just wanted you to see that not everyone likes to take the easy way out and that some people think things through at times.
[10:25] <Stormx> I don't.
[10:25] <vader1102> szaz, I use madwifi
[10:25] <LinuxJones> ted_, I get 1700 with glxgears so your just fine if your getting 6000
[10:25] <szaz> vader: I have just come accross madwifi - easy to install?
[10:25] <LinuxDolt> what packages do i need in order to get ubuntu gcc to use the "-m32" flag correctly?
[10:25] <vader1102> beautifull
[10:25] <vader1102> what card?
[10:25] <sm> mikejoeno: does it reappear after killall gnome-panel ?
[10:25] <szaz> fancy telling me how to go about it?
[10:25] <mikejoeno> how do i get the task bar from the top to come back?'
[10:26] <burnboyy> hey linuxjones, it says cdrom0
[10:26] <szaz> card is a D-Link DWL G560
[10:26] <vader1102> google it dude, or someone here may have the wiki page
[10:26] <szaz> I have spent most of the day with ndiswrapper and win drivers
[10:26] <szaz> still no luck
[10:26] <burnboyy> i'm trying to get a dir of the cdrom
[10:26] <ted_> ted@1[~] $ glxgears
[10:26] <ted_> 19762 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3952.400 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> 22639 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4527.800 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> 22641 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4528.200 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> 22637 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4527.400 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> 22624 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4524.800 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> 22639 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4527.800 FPS
[10:26] <LinuxJones> burnboyy, ok if you put a cdrom in the drive that has something on it then you can access the files from there
[10:26] <ted_> 22643 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4528.600 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> 22641 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4528.200 FPS
[10:26] <vader1102> madwifi seams to work great for me
[10:26] <ted_> 22646 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4529.200 FPS
[10:26] <ted_> sorry 4500
[10:26] <^thehatsrule^> DONT PASTE
[10:26] <LinuxJones> ted_, please don't paste in the irc channel
[10:27] <ted_> oh sorry
[10:27] <burnboyy> it has something on it, has some windows based stuff, i'm trying to use wine
[10:27] <szaz> I'll have a look
[10:27] <ted_> apologisys
[10:27] <crispynix-v6> ted_: #flood
[10:27] <szaz> cheers
[10:27] <LinuxDolt> what on EARTH is so difficult about reading a fricken topic?
[10:27] <vader1102> szaz: I have heard of a few probs with diff cards but not too many, I know it works with atheros chipsets
[10:28] <LinuxJones> ted_, usually you goto www.pastebin.ca and paste your stuff there then post the link to your stuff( you need help with ) here in the irc channel.
[10:28] <rapha> Btw, does somebody know if they're going to make the Nautilus browser mode the default for Breezy? Because right now it is so...
[10:28] <sm> LinuxDolt: some chat clients truncate the topic
[10:28] <Epod69> somewhat complex question, if I create a sym link, will the application be loaded in its orginal folder or will the app be loaded in the folder where the link is?
[10:28] <ted_> linuxjones ok thanks for that
[10:28] <capim> Hello, I am having some problems when I try to configure my keyboard using Gnome... When I try to Add a new layout an error occur... Can anyone help please::
[10:29] <sm> boy there's a lot of Linux* in here
[10:29] <szaz> vader: I've seen success stories with ndiswrapper as well - but I cant get anywhere
[10:29] <szaz> doing my nut in man!
[10:29] <burnboyy> so linuxjones, you ever use WINE at all?
[10:29] <vader1102> szaz: try madwifi and then your card
[10:29] <Stormx> !samba
[10:29] <vader1102> in google
[10:29] <ubotu> hmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:30] <szaz> vader: is there a madwifi package in an ubuntu repository?
[10:30] <burnboyy> does anyone in here use WINE?
[10:31] <szaz> if so - can i download it via the web - copy it to my linux machine (which has no net access at present)?
[10:31] <ted_> this is the error im getting
[10:31] <ted_> http://pastebin.ca/19458
[10:31] <vader1102> szaz, did not see one in the reps
[10:31] <sm> szaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto , and be sure to search the ubuntu forums
[10:32] <vader1102> ty sm
[10:33] <vader1102> I was just looking for that link lol
[10:33] <eckhart> hi
[10:33] <szaz> ted: already seen that page thanks - and the forums are not proving to be much help at the moment - Im trawling through it though
[10:33] <eckhart> i'm looking for qt4 packages for ubuntu
[10:33] <eckhart> is there anything i can use?
[10:34] <ted_> thanks szaz
[10:34] <vader1102> szaz: what is your card?
[10:35] <sm> szaz: sure you've got a 560 and not a 650 ?
[10:35] <vader1102> that's what I am using, a dwl-g650
[10:36] <Xenguy> startx
[10:36] <Xenguy> ww
[10:36] <Pega> Hmm. Trans gaming subscription seems to pay 5 euros a month... Is it impossible to play windows games on linux without paying extra? :(
[10:36] <sm> szaz: try to pinpoint which of the 7 650's at HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards it is :)
[10:37] <Coss> Now i tried to burn a iso onto the disc.. didnt work so now i dont burn as image from program, now i burn as usuall
[10:37] <Xenguy> Pega: frankscorner.org
[10:37] <Pega> Xenguy, thanks
[10:37] <Xenguy> yw
[10:37] <sm> szaz: lspci will help
[10:39] <szaz> vader: yes card is a DWL G560
[10:40] <vader1102> mawdwifi is the answer then, hold on I will get you the url
[10:40] <szaz> sm: I know what it is - a D-Link DWL G560 (Rev 1)
[10:40] <bb> how install video card?
[10:40] <szaz> sm: apparently supported with ndiswrapper - but I cant for the life of me get it to work
[10:41] <szaz> vader: cheers - I've found it
[10:41] <dudule> helo all, im using ubuntu with my laptop, and my wifi is not configured...
[10:41] <dudule> how can i do this ?
[10:41] <sm> good luck.. I'd rather pay $20 for a supported card myself
[10:41] <jadewolf> Hi, I have like a bunch of CD sets   from Ubuntu and have never installed it yet, how does it stand up for alinux distro, I am aware this might be a bias channel but I like to get infrom from the horses mouth
[10:41] <szaz> vader: apparently, madwifi is included in the restricted packages with hoary
[10:41] <vader1102> szaz:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4057.html
[10:42] <szaz> sm: so would I but I havent got the money!
[10:42] <sm> ok
[10:42] <dudule> my wifi card is not reconized as a new conexion
[10:42] <klaym> $20 sure is a lot of money!
[10:43] <sm> the atheros driver is included in restricted-modules.. dunno about the rest of madwifi
[10:43] <bb> Et?
[10:43] <sm> there is madwifi source build instructions in a forum thread about atheros
[10:43] <szaz> sm: so - as my card is an atheros chipset - it should work?
[10:43] <sm> yes
[10:44] <bb> Estou com dificuldades de instalar o ubuntu. Algum pode ajudar?
[10:44] <sm> I just got mine working this morning
[10:44] <szaz> sod it! - it doesn't!
[10:44] <vader1102> sm: I just had to download the madwifi and also the sharutils and also the linux-headers for my kernel
[10:44] <szaz> just my luck
[10:44] <dudule> does everyone know how i can surf on the net with my wifi ?
[10:44] <sm> I installed restricted-modules*2.6.10
[10:44] <dudule> i cant select it on the conexion panel
[10:45] <vader1102> dodule: what card and all of that?
[10:45] <dudule> vader1102: it a inclued card on my laptop
[10:46] <vader1102> ok, find out what chipset it is
[10:46] <dudule> nforce 3
[10:46] <vader1102> hold on
[10:46] <sm> szaz: after that, jaykay's post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972&page=1&pp=10
[10:47] <sm> + step 3.5: iwconfig ath0 up
[10:47] <dudule> aparently, my card is conected with an usb in the laptop
[10:47] <sm> worked for me
[10:47] <dudule> pffffffffff
[10:47] <vader1102> dodule:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html
[10:47] <crashd> whats the problem if your wifi card comes up as eth1 instead of ath*
[10:47] <Stormx> What is a good recording suite for Ubuntu, like Cakewalk?
[10:48] <dudule> my card is not reconized as eth !!!
[10:48] <sm> crashd: maybe it's not an atheros card ?
[10:48] <dudule> that's my probleme
[10:48] <crashd> perhaps ;)
[10:48] <sm> it works ? don't ask questions! :)
[10:48] <Amaranth> all i know about recording is that the lugradio guys are willing to use windows for recording because the linux software is so hard to use
[10:49] <sm> Stormx: tried audacity ?
[10:49] <calamari> hi
[10:49] <Amaranth> gah, i hate firefox
[10:49] <Amaranth> it's single threaded, i swear
[10:50] <Amaranth> when one tab is loading the whole UI locks
[10:50] <joe__> how do i allow xfce to have desktop icons?
[10:50] <Amaranth> i don't think xfce has that feature
[10:50] <joe__> it turns it off by default
[10:51] <joe__> but it says i can turn iton, i just can't find out how
[10:51] <sm> Amaranth: you have a point
[10:51] <djp> Amaranth: use emacs with w3m... ;)
[10:51] <sm> brr
[10:52] <calamari> I don't seem to have the libglib2.0-dev package (Hoary).  Anyone else have it listed?  (wondering if I'm missing repositories or something)
[10:53] <Amaranth> !info libglib2.0-dev
[10:53] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: (Development files for the GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.6.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 768 kB, Installed size: 3460 kB
[10:53] <Amaranth> should be in main
[10:54] <bb> I installed ubuntu, but the entrance screen is trembled somebody can help me?
[10:54] <Amaranth> it's what?
[10:54] <vader1102> bbl, time to go and see what's for dinner
[10:55] <calamari> Amaranth: if it's in main, then that means it's on the cd, right ?
[10:55] <Amaranth> calamari: no
[10:55] <Amaranth> I doubt any -dev packages are on the CD.
[10:56] <bimberi> bb: don't understand "trembled"
[10:56] <Amaranth> calamari: I think the DVD has everything from main.
[10:56] <Epod69> anyone know what causes the sound to be staticy ?
[10:56] <Kirsch__> hey guys, how do you install the kernel source?
[10:56] <thrush> eog
[10:57] <calamari> okay, added main to universe and multiverse.. and refreshing :)
[10:57] <calamari> thanks :)
[10:58] <bb> bimberi: I do not see nothing in the initial screen
[10:58] <bimberi> bb: does <ctrl><alt>F1 get you a login prompt?
[10:59] <Amaranth> Kirsch: linux-source-2.6.10
[10:59] <Amaranth> Kirsch: you probably only need the headers
[11:00] <bb> bimberi: I am in shell
[11:00] <AnD-> Question: When I start kubuntu I see very strange colors on my screen and if I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then again Ctrl+Alt+F7 then everything is normal, I installed already the fglrx(Ati) drivers, what can I do to fix this ?
[11:00] <Amaranth> Kirsch: those are linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:00] <AnD-> here is a screenshot from my desktop http://home.versatel.be/vt686689/schermafdruk2.jpg
[11:00] <bb> bimberi: I have another PC here.
[11:00] <calamari> Amaranth: yep.. now I have libgtk2.0-dev listed.. thanks a lot :)
[11:00] <lucas_> my X crashes  all the time, I don't know what to do.
[11:01] <bb> bimberi: I think that is video card. But I dont know.
[11:01] <Amaranth> AnD-: Looks like video RAM corruption
[11:01] <Amaranth> lucas_: Are you on breezy?
[11:01] <AnD-> are you sure
[11:01] <juanej> eyy ppl i got a problem with a fat32 partition
[11:01] <AnD-> it's a dualboot and on windows everything works
[11:01] <juanej> i have /dev/hda5       /mnt/documentos vfat user,auto,owner,rw,umask=000 0 0 in the fstab
[11:01] <dbernar1> hi
[11:02] <juanej> but i cant delete files with my no root account
[11:02] <Amaranth> AnD-: I didn't say the card was bad, I said something was corrupting your video RAM.
[11:02] <bimberi> bb: You could log in and try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:02] <Amaranth> AnD-: File a bug report.
[11:02] <AnD-> how ?
[11:02] <lucas_> Amaranth: what do you mean?
[11:02] <juanej> somebody?
[11:03] <dbernar1> juanej: what? you cant delete files? tried sudo rm /blah?
[11:03] <bimberi> bb: look for instructions on your card on the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[11:03] <dbernar1> sudo is used instead of the root, it asks you for your password.
[11:03] <dbernar1> juanej: not sure if that is what you were asking tho.
[11:03] <juanej> dbernar1, it works
[11:03] <segfault2k> hi :D
[11:03] <juanej> but
[11:03] <segfault2k> breezy stills broken?
[11:03] <juanej> i like to delete files with my normal account
[11:04] <bb> bimberi: e what to make there?
[11:04] <dbernar1> juanej: which files?
[11:04] <juanej> uhmm
[11:04] <dbernar1> make them your files.
[11:04] <dbernar1> chown username file
[11:04] <dbernar1> man chown
[11:04] <juanej> how can i make whole partition?
[11:04] <juanej> i mean
[11:05] <dbernar1> give everyone privileges to remove files. add your user to a special group, and allow that group write permissions to a file.
[11:05] <segfault2k> breezy stills broken?
[11:05] <bimberi> juanej: you probably need to mount it with the uid and gid options (man mount)
[11:05] <dbernar1> segfault2k: /topic
[11:05] <jowi> how come that users can mount the cdrom without any problem but get "mount: only root can do that" when trying to mount hda1 (vfat) ? they have the same setup in fstab.
[11:05] <juanej> ok
[11:05] <segfault2k> oh XD
[11:05] <lukus001> what directory do you put new fonts in, thanks
[11:05] <segfault2k> but.. why?
[11:05] <bimberi> bb: see if there are instructions for your card on that page
[11:05] <Amaranth> segfault2k: xorg isn't even installable right now
[11:05] <segfault2k> ahh thanks :D
[11:05] <dbernar1> you cant use mount with a user.
[11:05] <juanej> is my fstab ok?
[11:06] <jowi> dbernar1, i can for cdrom
[11:06] <dbernar1> mount cdrom?
[11:06] <jowi> dbernar1, yes
[11:06] <dbernar1> like, mount /dev/hdd, or whatever?
[11:06] <jowi> yes
[11:06] <dbernar1> wrd.
[11:06] <pgidz> segfault2k i'm using breezy and it works alright except for a few problems that you expect with bleeding edge
[11:06] <jowi> more like mount /media/cdrom (pointing to /dev/hdc(
[11:06] <bb> bimberi: i dont know wich one is my video card.
[11:06] <segfault2k> thanks pgidz bleeding edge rlz :D
[11:07] <lukus001> Does anyone know where the font folder is located?
[11:07] <juanej> /dev/hda5       /mnt/documentos vfat user,auto,owner,rw,umask=000 0 0
[11:07] <juanej> is that ok?
[11:07] <bimberi> juanej: an example fstab entry (from my own is):
[11:07] <dbernar1> bleeding head.
[11:07] <bimberi> juanej: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[11:07] <dbernar1> or whatever.
[11:07] <pgidz> segfault, if you read the forums Daniel says that Xorg should be working now
[11:07] <mikejoeno> hey guys
[11:07] <bimberi> bb: lspci
[11:07] <AnD-> nobody ?
[11:07] <dbernar1> yo mikejoeno .
[11:07] <segfault2k> pgidz: :D thanks =D
[11:07] <jowi> i want it to be mounted ondemand. so noauto need to be used. i will experiment.
[11:07] <jowi> thanks for the tip
[11:07] <mikejoeno> i accidentally closed the top taskbar that holds all the programs
[11:08] <juanej> well, that works if u want to only root have access
[11:08] <mikejoeno> can anyone tell me how to get it back?
[11:08] <juanej> no?
[11:08] <dbernar1> mikejoeno: right click on another panel, and select add panel.
[11:08] <jowi> mikejoeno, try to type 'gnome-panel' in a terminal
[11:08] <mikejoeno> ok
[11:08] <Raskall> hmm.. breezy seems to be both stable and pretty.
[11:08] <jowi> mikejoeno, if you have no panels at all that is
[11:08] <segfault2k> try to open 'kicker'
[11:08] <segfault2k> :D
[11:09] <dbernar1> mikejoeno: right clck on a panel and select add to panel to add something to a panel.
[11:09] <jowi> segfault2k, i wish i had one beos kicker for linux :-/
[11:09] <equex> anyone have any idea why konqueror cannot write to sda1 anymore ? all the files comes out as 0 bytes
[11:09] <bimberi> juanej: no uid/gid 1000 is the normal user account created during install
[11:09] <dbernar1> mikejoeno: add to the top panel till it looks like you want it.
[11:10] <adman> hello, how do i install a new application downloaded from the web?
[11:10] <sm> equex: it's full ?
[11:10] <bimberi> Raskall: Great! I suppose it had to be by October :)
[11:10] <equex> sm: ;) no
[11:10] <equex> 30 megs free
[11:10] <lukus001> where is the font foler located, please somone -.-
[11:10] <sm> worth a try :)
[11:10] <dbernar1> adman: what app is it?
[11:10] <sm> fsck, unmount/remount it ?
[11:10] <bimberi> adman: what type of file (and could you have got it via apt/synaptic)?
[11:10] <adman> opera
[11:10] <mikejoeno> im brand new to this though and i dont know where anything is
[11:10] <klaym> adman: you shouldn't download applications from the net unless they are 100% made for Ubuntu. Use Synaptic, apt-get or some other form of apt to get applications
[11:11] <sm> & backup
[11:11] <jowi> adman, you need to read the documentation for that app. if it is from source usually you do: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[11:11] <adman> this is the ubuntu version of opera i got from their site.
[11:11] <bimberi> mikejoeno: yes we all started that way, it's a rewarding learning curve though :)
[11:11] <dbernar1> adman, got the deb?
[11:11] <adman> yes
[11:11] <equex> sm: tried rebooting, but the thing is, i probably pulled it our while it was writing to it, there was the remains of a file.part on it
[11:11] <equex> it out*
[11:11] <sm>  fsck it
[11:12] <juanej> bimberi, it doesnt work that way :(
[11:12] <jrm4> so, there's been a bunch of talk about the "ATI driver" problems on the forums; has there been found a simple solution?
[11:12] <sm> you'll have to unmount it first
[11:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> hello?
[11:12] <bimberi> adman: dpkg -i file.deb
[11:12] <sm> or boot from a live cd if you can't
[11:12] <dbernar1> mikejoeno: he menu is the custom menu. there are other things you may want, like, program notification area.
[11:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just upgraded my system and now mozilla firefox and thunderbird won't start.
[11:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> :(
[11:12] <equex> fsck /dev/sda1 ?
[11:12] <dbernar1> BROKEN_LADDER: HEELO!
[11:12] <bimberi> juanej: what's the error?
[11:12] <sm>  /dev/sda
[11:12] <juanej> this is the line
[11:12] <juanej> dev/hda5       /mnt/documentos vfat rw,user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0    0    0
[11:12] <sm> man fsck first maybne
[11:12] <juanej> wait
[11:12] <sm> and backup
[11:13] <equex> will do sm
[11:13] <equex> in a munute'
[11:13] <sm> probably harmless, but..
[11:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> dbernar1 i was just checking whether it was moderated.
[11:13] <dbernar1> BROKEN_LADDER: dont do that ever again!;)
[11:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> OKAY!!!
[11:13] <Burgundavia> jrm4, yes, use nvidia
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> there needs to be more streaming internet tv in ogg theora.
[11:14] <Burgundavia> jrm4, or help out the r300 project
[11:14] <Pega> Hmmh. Does ubuntu come with some c++ compiler or do I need to find one myself? And if I do... any suggestions?
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> the only thing the jroar test stream shows is old war promotion movies
[11:14] <Burgundavia> Pega, install build-essential
[11:14] <Burgundavia> Pega, it does not install compilers by default
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> pega is such a beautiful greek name
[11:14] <juanej> file cannot be deleted because you dont have permission
[11:14] <juanej> to modify the upper folder
[11:14] <juanej> something like that
[11:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> Pega most any linux distro comes with gcc
[11:15] <Burgundavia> BROKEN_LADDER, yes, but not by default
[11:15] <Pega> BROKEN_LADDER, oh. Krhm. For wich gender? :S
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> wow..not by default?  that's bizarre
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> heh..i dunno.
[11:15] <juanej> bimberi,  so what can i do?
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's just a pretty name
[11:15] <Burgundavia> BROKEN_LADDER, most users will not need it
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> lame
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> someone who never codes is lame arse
[11:15] <bimberi> juanej: just want to check that you re-mounted?
[11:15] <punch999> Ok so when I install this What do I really need to do
[11:15] <Burgundavia> BROKEN_LADDER, every piece of software you install is a security risk. Gcc is a slightly larger one that most
[11:16] <juanej> yep
[11:16] <juanej> sudo mount -a
[11:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> gcc is _security_ risk?
[11:16] <punch999> anything spectacualar or is it quite simple installing this
[11:16] <dbernar1> juanej: is this a NTFS partition?
[11:16] <jrm4> Burgundavia - thanks, but am trying to not have to buy a new laptop ;)
[11:16] <juanej> fat32
[11:16] <dbernar1> good, you can write to it then.
[11:16] <punch999> Is it easy installing this
[11:16] <punch999> ubuntu that is
[11:16] <dbernar1> man chmod, I told you.
[11:16] <Burgundavia> jrm4, sorry, I have an ati 9600 as well
[11:16] <juanej> but it doesnt alolow me
[11:16] <Pega> BROKEN_LADDER, but ofcourse, many people don't codwe with c++. I mean... If I was good with it, I would SO code with brainfuck! It would be qute nice. :P
[11:16] <dbernar1> Is it automounted or what?
[11:17] <dbernar1> Pega: gnu compiler collection
[11:17] <Burgundavia> BROKEN_LADDER, anyway, if you know you need a compiler, you know where it is or how to ask for it
[11:17] <Snippy> hello everyone
[11:17] <dbernar1> yo, Snippy
[11:18] <catphive> I've recently installed hoary. In the multimedia systems selector, esd tests fine (cause sound), but the pipes fail for ALSA and OSS.
[11:19] <catphive> how do I get ASLA and OSS working?
[11:19] <Snippy> I've got a similar problem.. NO sound at all :P
[11:19] <jrm4> Burgundavia - yeah, along with my laptop, i've got nothing but ATI cards in the machines i've build/messed with. Got into that before getting into linux
[11:19] <Pega> dbernar1, synaptic doesn't seem to find anything with keyword "gnu compiler collection" and not even much with "compiler" so do I need to download those thro some other way?
[11:19] <Burgundavia> jrm4, you probably have the m10, which is known to have issues
[11:20] <sm> esd is the best option in hoary imho
[11:20] <bimberi> juanej: juanej - check the permissions on /mnt/documentos - may need to chmod it
[11:20] <Burgundavia> jrm4, http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php
[11:20] <sm> use esddsp to make most non-esd apps work
[11:20] <catphive> well, esd works, but I think that some apps need ASLA or OSS, because some things like flash apps don't have sound
[11:20] <nickrud>  sm, a man after my own experience :)
[11:20] <jadewolf> umm how come in ubuntu install it never asked me for root password?
[11:20] <lukus001> how do i switch to root, i want to add somthing into a folder and i cant change the permission... and no, i do not want to do it via consol
[11:21] <juanej> yep
[11:21] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, ubuntu doesn't use root, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:21] <juanej> chmod is 755
[11:21] <sm> I haven't been able to get sound working for flash browser plugin
[11:21] <juanej> dbernar1, chmod is 755
[11:21] <Burgundavia> sm, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:21] <jadewolf> I don't have a browser cause ubuntu doesn't setup my nvidia card automatically
[11:21] <catphive> can I just run all the sound deamons at one and have sound work in everything?
[11:21] <juanej> its 755
[11:21] <juanej> bimberi, chmod for that folder is 755
[11:21] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, anyway, ubuntu uses sudo
[11:21] <nickrud> sm, esd has it's limits
[11:21] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, you use your password to do sys admin stuff
[11:22] <lukus001> How do i log in as root? somone?
[11:22] <sm> interesting, thx Burgundavia
[11:22] <nlDefiant> hiya everyone
[11:22] <Random_Sindrom> bhy
[11:22] <bimberi> juanej: k - sorry i'm not sure what the issue is - you could try removing the line from fstab and running this script to create an entry for you - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:22] <adman> bimberi: did what you said, now what?
[11:22] <nlDefiant> small question, at what point during lilo boot do i press which button to go into terminal screen and prevent the Xserver from starting
[11:23] <bimberi> Pega: Which compiler are you after?
[11:23] <juanej> ok thx
[11:23] <nickrud> sm, I commented cuz I just switched from a chip that does hardware mixing to one that does not, and I've bumped that wall a lot recently
[11:23] <adman> bimberi: did what you said, now what else
[11:23] <jadewolf> Burgundavia: I can't chmod sources.list even with sudo
[11:23] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, what are you trying to do?
[11:24] <jadewolf> get the nvidia drivers setup and working so I can have X
[11:24] <lukus001> how do i Log in a Root?
[11:24] <lukus001> as*
[11:24] <bimberi> adman: if all went well - "opera" should work.  Hopefully a menu entry has been added as well.
[11:24] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, you shouldn't need to chmod the source.lists
[11:24] <jadewolf> its read only
[11:24] <pgidz> lukus001 ubuntu doesn't have root
[11:24] <catphive> so, does anyone know if all the sound deamons can be run at once?
[11:24] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, there is also nothing you need to add to get nvidia binary drivers
[11:24] <Pega> bimeri, I don't care. Anything that can compile c++. Ofcourse stuff like colorcoded editor added to the compiler are nice bonus, but just about any wotrking c++ compiler
[11:24] <jadewolf> so just download and install the binary from nivida site?
[11:25] <adman> bimberi: here it is: root@ubu:/home/adman # dpkg -i opera-static_8.02-20050727.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[11:25] <adman> Selecting previously deselected package opera-static.
[11:25] <adman> (Reading database ... 58187 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:25] <adman> Unpacking opera-static (from opera-static_8.02-20050727.1-qt_en_i386.deb) ...
[11:25] <adman> Setting up opera-static (8.02-20050727.1) ..
[11:25] <lukus001> pgidz: well how am i suposed to add somthing into a folder i dont have permission in unless its only for root? i've done it before and i dont ant to use the crappy little consol to mode files
[11:25] <lukus001> move*
[11:25] <Pega> adman, Please don't paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl (i have nothing against that, but some people do)
[11:25] <pgidz> lukus001 form the command line type sudo nautilus then enter your password
[11:26] <lukus001> pgidz, thanks
[11:26] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, no install nvidia-glx and then type nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:26] <jadewolf> Burgundavia: Do I download the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and use their installer?
[11:26] <jadewolf> ah
[11:26] <jowi> pgidz, that is not a good idea. some ppl have had problems using nautilus as root
[11:26] <jadewolf> could not open locked file
[11:26] <bimberi> adman: so has it finished installing and you have the prompt back?
[11:26] <adman> pege: I only started yesterday
[11:26] <jadewolf> do I have to sudo apt-get install ?
[11:26] <Burgundavia> jadewolf, yes
[11:26] <pgidz> jowi any better suggestions
[11:26] <adman> bimberi: I have it back
[11:27] <jadewolf> kinda annoying
[11:27] <jowi> pgidz, it messes up the xauth file and can make the login hang every time after that
[11:27] <bimberi> adman: then try typing "opera" as a command
[11:27] <jowi> pgidz, yes. use rox-filer instead
[11:27] <pgidz> jowi have never had that problem
[11:27] <Burgundavia> adman, wiki.ubuntu.com/Opera
[11:27] <Burgundavia> adman, that will setup a menu entry for you
[11:27] <jowi> pgidz, me neither. Seveas was the one who told me and it is not easy to repair apparently
[11:28] <bimberi> Pega: apt-get install build-essential
[11:28] <pgidz> jowi is rox-filer installed as default
[11:28] <Pega> thanks, bimberi
[11:28] <bimberi> Pega: yw :) (sorry i was a bit slow :)
[11:28] <jowi> pgidz, no. but it's available though
[11:28] <[Aero] > 500 people and no ops O_o
[11:28] <jowi> !info rox-filer
[11:28] <ubotu> rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[11:29] <pgidz> jowi will tell people to use that if they ask in the future thanks
[11:29] <Pega> bimberi, it says that it is already newest version... :S Does that mean I already have that? And if so, how can I find it
[11:29] <jowi> pgidz, i wouldn't have known about it if i hadn't suggested it to people myself and got a correction :-)
[11:30] <pgidz> jowi thats how we learn
[11:30] <bimberi> Pega: The g++ package depends on that package - so you should have it as well
[11:30] <Snippy> ok people.. I need your support.. I have a nvidia nforce2 on my mobo.. and a C-media chip.. ALSA Drivers installed.. nothing works.. didnt even worked when I re-installed linux..
[11:30] <Snippy> I tried http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#troubleshooting   no luck and some strange stuff happens
[11:30] <Snippy> quote from the link:  Look at /proc/asound/version and that this says something like:
[11:30] <Snippy> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4.
[11:30] <bb> bimberi: colud you help me
[11:30] <Snippy> I get a "Permission Denied" as ROOT!
[11:31] <Snippy> isnt that strange?
[11:31] <jowi> Snippy, permission denied when you do what?
[11:31] <Pega> bimberi, oh. I checked thro synaptic and I seem to have g++-3.3 :D thx anyway :D
[11:31] <bimberi> bb: ask the channel - hopefully someone can
[11:31] <sm> nickrud, catphive: sound mixing works pretty well here these days, I think I am using alsa dmix as well
[11:31] <bimberi> Pega: yw :)
[11:31] <sm> I expect that wiki page tells all
[11:31] <Snippy> enter the command
[11:31] <Snippy> jowi
[11:31] <Snippy> /proc/asound/version
[11:32] <bb> thanks
[11:32] <Snippy> jowi, several commands listed in the ALSA troubleshooting guide just dont work.. most of em return a permission denied..
[11:32] <nickrud> sm, I actually helped someone with that a bit back, I regret having to use it ;)
[11:33] <jowi> Snippy, that is weird if you try to do it with sudo and get a denial, yes
[11:33] <Snippy> I used the root terminal
[11:33] <catphive> wiki page?
[11:33] <Snippy> jowi, more strange:  snippy@Snippy:~$ sudo /proc/asound/version
[11:33] <Snippy> Password:
[11:33] <Snippy> sudo: /proc/asound/version: command not found
[11:33] <Snippy> snippy@Snippy:~$
[11:34] <jowi> Snippy, not strange. /proc/asound/version is not a command
[11:34] <jowi> Snippy, correct would be: cat /proc/asound/version
[11:35] <Snippy> jowi, damn, I was hoping that this may be the error for my sound problems:P now it works..
[11:35] <Snippy> grrr
[11:35] <jowi> Snippy, can you describe your soundproblem to me please
[11:35] <LokeDK> How do I see my system charset? i know it's utf-8 but want to be 120% sure
[11:36] <Snippy> jowi, well, what shall I say.. there is no sound?  I tried to install the nforce audio drivers.. no luck.. had to manually de-install em cuz theres a bug in the installer..
[11:36] <Snippy> Jowi, I dont know how I could describe this.. there's just.. no sound..
[11:37] <jowi> Snippy, no sound at all? can you run "alsamixer" to see if the devices are set to mute please
[11:37] <Snippy> Jowi: I read everything about similar problems.. tried everything.. I unmuted everything and was hoping that it works.. no luck
[11:37] <Snippy> jowi: it is unmuted
[11:37] <jowi> Snippy, run alsamixer anyway. what do you have at the top where is says "Card"?
[11:38] <Snippy> nvidia nforce2
[11:38] <Snippy> chip: cmedia CMI9761
[11:39] <jowi> Snippy, cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:39] <Snippy> jowi: 0 snd_intel8x0
[11:40] <jowi> Snippy, killall esd
[11:40] <Snippy> jowi: done
[11:40] <jowi> Snippy, gnome -> system -> prefs -> sound: untick "enable soundserver"
[11:41] <Snippy> enable sound server startup ? jowi ?
[11:41] <jowi> Snippy, yes that's the one. i havn't got gnome infront of me. and then gnome -> system -> prefs -> multimedia selector: Default output sink = ALSA
[11:41] <Snippy> jowi: done
[11:42] <jowi> Snippy, try to play something
[11:42] <Snippy> XMMS: failed to open audio output eSound ...etc...
[11:42] <yonil> How can i check what version of xorg am i running ?
[11:42] <BTJustice> If I go to /sbin and run "lspci" my SoundBlaster Live! 7.1 is found as a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS. How can I enable it in Kubuntu so I can hear sound?
[11:43] <Snippy> jowi: when I enable alsa as output in XMMS it plays the file.. but still.. no sound
[11:43] <bimberi> yonil: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[11:43] <jowi> Snippy, that is strange.
[11:43] <Snippy> Jowi, yes it is.. :(
[11:43] <jowi> Snippy, it seems like alsa is in use without any problems.
[11:43] <johanbr> Hi. I'm trying to modify a broadcom .inf wlan driver file (basically a text config file for the windows driver) for use with ndiswrapper. more displays the file correctly, but all the other pagers and editors I have just display binary garbage. Running the file command on it prints "bcmwl5.inf: MPEG ADTS, layer I, v1,  96 kBits, 32 kHz, Stereo" Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[11:44] <Snippy> jowi, maybe use not the intel8x0 ?
[11:44] <jowi> Snippy, is PCM unmuted and volumelevel ok?
[11:44] <yonil> bimberi, thanks
[11:44] <bimberi> yonil: yw :)
[11:44] <Snippy> jowi: everythin is unmuted and volumelevel is at max
[11:45] <segfault2k> someone knows how to install enlightenment e17 on ubuntu?
[11:45] <jowi> Snippy, i do not know if cmedia uses the i810 chipset maybe. i am actually out of my league on this one
[11:45] <Snippy> how can I change the i8x0 setting?
[11:45] <jowi> Snippy, what is the exact model of the cmedia?
[11:46] <Snippy> jowi: CMI9761
[11:46] <jowi> Snippy, usually you just load a driver with : sudo modprobe i810
[11:46] <jowi> ok hang on
[11:46] <johanbr> Snippy: what happens if you run "gstreamer-properties" from the commandline and then click on "Test" ?
[11:46] <nickrud> Snippy, maybe if you posted lsmod | grep snd to pastebin
[11:46] <nickrud> maybe :)
[11:46] <BTJustice> If I go to /sbin and run "lspci" my SoundBlaster Live! 7.1 is found as a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS. How can I enable it in Kubuntu so I can hear sound?
[11:47] <Snippy> failed to construct test pipeline
[11:47] <Snippy> nickrud, what do you mean?
[11:47] <Snippy> I'm new to linux and ubuntu
[11:47] <nickrud> Snippy, the lsmod command will list all the modules loaded by the linux kernel
[11:48] <nickrud> the | grep snd part just shows the modules related to sound
[11:49] <nickrud> Snippy, that way, we have a better idea of just what chipsets you may have
[11:49] <jowi> Snippy, can you please MUTE the soundchannel IE958
[11:49] <windex> for some reason that came across to me as 'bsdi-drunk' and made much more sense, bedi-drunck.
[11:49] <jowi> in alsamixer that is
[11:49] <Snippy> jowi, done
[11:49] <jowi> works?
[11:50] <Snippy> I think I have to restart gnome.. it wont let me play anything
[11:50] <Di42lo> any idea how do i speed limit uid ?
[11:50] <Di42lo> proccess ?
[11:50] <Snippy> I will come back in 2 sec :)
[11:50] <Di42lo> pid*
[11:50] <johanbr> Snippy: That's usually because something is hogging the audio device.
[11:51] <jowi> johanbr, yeah something is missing. alsa-oss or something
[11:51] <heewa> Hey. I'm having a problem with using a compiled kernel. I'm new to Ubuntu (coming from Gentoo). Starting Gnome freezes the computer.
[11:52] <nickrud> jowi, probably he has has a sound chip that sucks, that's all.
[11:52] <jowi> strange though. it plays the audiofiles without errors but no sound from the speakers.
[11:53] <Snippy> I'm back
[11:53] <BTJustice> Maybe speakers are plugged into the wrong hole.
[11:53] <Snippy> no luck.. still no sound
[11:53] <nickrud> BTJustice, :)
[11:53] <Snippy> what where the commands you said?
[11:53] <bimberi> Snippy: This fix has worked for me on two PC's that I had sound problems with - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=8 - worth a try and easily undone if it doesn't work
[11:53] <BTJustice> I was kidding, but that is always a possibility.
[11:53] <szaz> hi
[11:54] <jowi> Snippy, try to install alsa-utils and run alsaconfig. i'm gonna watch a movie
[11:54] <szaz> does anyone know what HAL Error 14 is?
[11:54] <nickrud> BTJustice, I've done that ;)
[11:54] <flankk> Hi. I've got an onboard Yamaha sound chipset that isn't detected by "lspci", and I've had much trouble getting it to work with either ALSA or OSS, I really need help in getting it detected first.
[11:54] <jowi> cu all
[11:54] <BTJustice> I know mine are plugged in, but I am new to Linux...
[11:54] <BTJustice> If I go to /sbin and run "lspci" my SoundBlaster Live! 7.1 is found as a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS. How can I enable it in Kubuntu so I can hear sound?
[11:54] <szaz> stormx: you there?
[11:55] <Snippy> alsaconfig - not found
[11:55] <nickrud> BTJustice, I'll say the same thing: post lsmod | grep snd, see if the modules are loaded first
[11:55] <Snippy> but I installed the utils..
[11:55] <Snippy> so.. wtf?
[11:56] <Snippy> nickrud, I did those commands.. they're loaded
[11:56] <szaz> I have correctly installed madwifi drivers - but D-Link card will not function due to 'Hardware self-test failed'
[11:56] <flankk> hello?
[11:56] <LinuxJones> Snippy, alsaconf is not installed by Ubuntu
[11:56] <BTJustice> What is that Ubuntu pasting site again?
[11:56] <szaz> anyone know why?
[11:56] <Snippy> LinuxJones how to install? I installed alsa-utils from synaptic
[11:57] <nickrud> Snippy, so, what modules?
[11:57] <LinuxJones> Snippy, alsaconf is too buggy, so it was left out of the alsa package
[11:58] <Snippy> nickrud, can I pm it to you ?
[11:58] <Snippy> takes some space
[11:58] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, www.pastebin.ca
[11:58] <nickrud> Snippy, just post them on ^^^
[11:58] <Snippy> LinuxJones, so what possibilities I have to get alsaconf?
[11:58] <BTJustice> ty
[11:58] <Epod69> hey, I just restarted my computer and now nvidia wont run! i had to change back to nv to even startx.... anyone know what could cause nvidia to not work anymore?
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_usb_audio          77504  0
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_usb_lib            15744  1 snd_usb_audio
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_rawmidi            26336  1 snd_usb_lib
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_seq_device          8972  1 snd_rawmidi
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_hwdep               9888  1 snd_usb_audio
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_intel8x0           33664  4
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_ac97_codec         84796  1 snd_intel8x0
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_pcm_oss            53024  0
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_mixer_oss          20032  1 snd_pcm_oss
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_pcm                93512  5 snd_usb_audio,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_timer              26052  1 snd_pcm
[11:58] <Snippy> snd                    59652  18 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[11:58] <Snippy> soundcore              10080  1 snd
[11:58] <Snippy> snd_page_alloc          9988  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
[11:58] <Snippy> usbcore               119224  6 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[11:58] <nickrud> oh, well
[11:58] <mjr> Snippy, don't
[11:58] <Epod69> use pastebin!
[11:58] <Snippy> dont what?
[11:58] <juanej> rofl
[11:58] <heewa> hehe
[11:58] <LinuxJones> Snippy, have you unmuted and checked the sound volumes ?
[11:58] <nickrud> Snippy, you missed LInuxJones' post :)
[11:59] <Snippy> LinuxJones, yes
[11:59] <BTJustice> grep snd isn't doing anything.
[11:59] <Snippy> nickrud, no I didnt:P