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| McScruff | lo i mounted an iso image, how do i unmount it? | 12:10 |
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| ztonzy | hmm | 12:13 |
| ztonzy | Riddell: awake ? | 12:13 |
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| Rogue_Jedi_X | McScruff: umount | 12:18 |
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| _joe | Yo | 12:35 |
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| c0rrupt_ | finally got this to w0rk | 12:36 |
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| c0rrupt_ | hi i just installed kubuntu and my video card runs on the intel 845 chipset | 12:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | xfree86 i810 supports that chipset but im not sure how to get it working | 12:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | is there an easy way? | 12:56 |
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| gdh | it should 'just work' ... did you end up with 640x480 display? | 12:58 |
| c0rrupt_ | yea | 12:58 |
| gdh | I had that, too - it's a known bug, I think... | 12:59 |
| gdh | the fix is simple :) | 12:59 |
| c0rrupt_ | i need it on 1024x768 | 12:59 |
| c0rrupt_ | heh let me know! | 12:59 |
| gdh | "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" | 12:59 |
| gdh | find 'Section "Monitor"' | 12:59 |
| gdh | and add this one line | 12:59 |
| gdh | HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 | 12:59 |
| gdh | save (ctrl-x) and restart X | 01:00 |
| c0rrupt_ | =-O | 01:00 |
| c0rrupt_ | tytytytyty | 01:00 |
| gdh | did it work? :) | 01:00 |
| c0rrupt_ | dunno yet.. | 01:00 |
| c0rrupt_ | im making changes | 01:00 |
| gdh | it's something to do with the i810 driver not reading the monitor DDC data properly on 845 | 01:01 |
| c0rrupt_ | ok ill let you know if it worked | 01:01 |
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| gdh | ah hangon, I have an 865... | 01:02 |
| gdh | ha, fingers crossed, then :) | 01:02 |
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| c0rrupt_ | didnt compile.. | 01:11 |
| c0rrupt_ | had to remove the line | 01:11 |
| c0rrupt_ | ill try one more time | 01:11 |
| c0rrupt_ | HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 | 01:11 |
| c0rrupt_ | right? | 01:11 |
| c0rrupt_ | doesnt have to have quotes..? | 01:12 |
| gdh | compile? | 01:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | didnt compile | 01:13 |
| gdh | what are you compiling? | 01:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | well | 01:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | it wouldnt run | 01:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | at boot | 01:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | i had to take out what i added | 01:13 |
| gdh | Hm, e.h. | 01:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | hmm | 01:13 |
| gdh | Section "Monitor" | 01:14 |
| gdh | HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 | 01:14 |
| c0rrupt_ | no quotes? | 01:14 |
| gdh | just like that. | 01:14 |
| c0rrupt_ | k i will try one more time | 01:14 |
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| c0rrupt_ | ah | 01:19 |
| c0rrupt_ | it works | 01:19 |
| gdh | =) | 01:19 |
| c0rrupt_ | thanks man | 01:19 |
| gdh | no prob | 01:19 |
| c0rrupt_ | having a problem with dhcpd | 01:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | it works but | 01:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | i have to run sudo dhclient in order to connect | 01:20 |
| gdh | c0rrupt_: check Control Centre -> Internet + Network -> Network Settings | 01:21 |
| gdh | is eth0 (or whatver) set to dhcp ? | 01:21 |
| c0rrupt_ | prolly not | 01:21 |
| gdh | in the 'protocol' tab? | 01:21 |
| c0rrupt_ | ill check | 01:21 |
| gdh | you'll be pleased to know that the 'Administrator mode' button is broken... | 01:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | 0.o | 01:23 |
| gdh | you need to run 'sudo kcontrol' from a konsole | 01:23 |
| gdh | allthese are known bugs to be fixed in breezy :) | 01:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | Lol | 01:24 |
| c0rrupt_ | i should just login root | 01:24 |
| c0rrupt_ | i already added a root account | 01:24 |
| gdh | and just hang a 'pwn me' sign round your neck =) | 01:24 |
| c0rrupt_ | LOL | 01:25 |
| c0rrupt_ | yea maybe your right | 01:25 |
| c0rrupt_ | ;x | 01:25 |
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| c0rrupt_ | running kcontrol from console failed... | 01:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | couldnt not connect to x server.. | 01:37 |
| c0rrupt_ | could not* | 01:37 |
| gdh | yes, you have to run "sudo kcontrol" from a non-root shell | 01:37 |
| c0rrupt_ | ah | 01:38 |
| c0rrupt_ | i went root then ran kcontrol | 01:38 |
| gdh | =) | 01:39 |
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| c0rrupt_ | ok i thanks again xD | 01:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | time to set up wireless card | 01:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | =P | 01:39 |
| gdh | erk :) | 01:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | rtl8180 | 01:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | is the chipset | 01:39 |
| gdh | I know nothing of them =) | 01:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | i know a little | 01:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | maybe my little and your nothing can get my wireless going | 01:40 |
| c0rrupt_ | =P | 01:40 |
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| caeza | hi | 01:46 |
| caeza | im looking for help with kdm and kubuntu-default-settings | 01:46 |
| c0rrupt_ | does kubuntu come with Synaptic package manager? | 01:48 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | Yup, kynaptic | 01:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | same thing? | 01:48 |
| Fraeon | Uh, nope. | 01:48 |
| gdh | yes, but no, but yes :) | 01:48 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | Right, it's just the KDE variant | 01:48 |
| gdh | It's 'Synaptic Lite' ... | 01:48 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | Synaptic's still better though | 01:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | im trying to install wine | 01:48 |
| gdh | or 'Synaptic: Fisher Price edition' | 01:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | how do i add repositories | 01:49 |
| gdh | with a text-editor .... | 01:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | oh.. | 01:49 |
| gdh | yup, that's how advanced it is. | 01:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | hmm | 01:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | Lol | 01:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | im begging to wish i had synaptic | 01:49 |
| gdh | there are plenty pre-defined -you just need to remove the # comments | 01:49 |
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| gdh | you can - just install it- it'll drag in the needed GTK dependencies. | 01:49 |
| caeza | Fisher PRice edition, LOL!! | 01:50 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | I think I'd best let the big boys handle this :) | 01:50 |
| gdh | caeza: ;) I'm surprised Kynaptic doesn't play a series of electronic tunes :) | 01:50 |
| caeza | im trying to cutomize KDM but i cant... it still looking with that ugly kubuntu wallpaper | 01:50 |
| _pax | gdh: I gotta ask you a favor, you still have the original /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ? | 01:51 |
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| caeza | lol... next Vtech kids computer comes with kynaptic too | 01:51 |
| caeza | (excuse my english, i speak spanish) | 01:51 |
| gdh | _pax: er, I use Debian proper for servers :) | 01:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | wines installing ;) | 01:51 |
| _pax | gdh: samething | 01:52 |
| gdh | c0rrupt_: you'll want 'winetools', too - it install IE6 + basic Windows DLLs for you :) | 01:52 |
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| c0rrupt_ | im trying to get vent to run | 01:52 |
| c0rrupt_ | does it work on wine? | 01:52 |
| gdh | _pax: not quite :) Debian releases last for 3 years+ :) | 01:52 |
| gdh | v. important in a production server. | 01:52 |
| gdh | c0rrupt_: never heard of 'vent' | 01:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | ventrilo | 01:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | for mic communication | 01:53 |
| gdh | still rings no bells. | 01:53 |
| gdh | ha :) | 01:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | mostly for gamers | 01:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | my friend has a ventrilo server | 01:53 |
| gdh | that'll be why - something like 'TeamSpeak' ? | 01:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | exactly | 01:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | currently they only have a win32 version | 01:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | =\ | 01:54 |
| gdh | so you can shout at your friends and scream how you're going to 'frag their ass' ? | 01:54 |
| gdh | sounds gripping :) | 01:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | LOL | 01:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | yea but we dont use it as much for gaming as much as just chatting | 01:54 |
| pax | anyone have apache2 installed? | 01:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | its usually hard to understand what one is saying | 01:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | talking out your problems are easier | 01:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | and more understood | 01:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | ;) | 01:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | understandable* | 01:55 |
| caeza | anybody know about the kdm/kubuntu-default-settings problem? | 01:58 |
| c0rrupt_ | lmao.. turns out there is a linux version | 01:58 |
| seth_k | caeza, with Breezy? | 01:58 |
| caeza | Hoary | 01:58 |
| caeza | and 2.6.12.3 kernel | 01:59 |
| seth_k | and what's the issue you're experiencing? | 02:00 |
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| caeza | i cant customize kdm | 02:02 |
| nocloud | is there a way to change the loginscreen so i don't get the default kubuntu thing? | 02:02 |
| caeza | nocloud ask for me in an understable english xD | 02:02 |
| seth_k | nocloud, settings:/System/ > Login Manager | 02:02 |
| caeza | seth_k, that dousn't work in kubuntu | 02:03 |
| caeza | doesn't* | 02:03 |
| seth_k | caeza, it does for me? | 02:03 |
| lgsobalvarro | aso caeza cual es el problemin? | 02:03 |
| caeza | jejeje hola, que weno que hablas espaol!! | 02:03 |
| caeza | seth_k yes, the login manager conf. doesn't works on kubuntu | 02:04 |
| caeza | lgsobalvarro, que no puedo configurar mi kdm | 02:04 |
| seth_k | #kubuntu-es if you're going to speak espanol ;) | 02:04 |
| seth_k | caeza, do you have the kde 3.4.2 update? | 02:04 |
| caeza | yes i have | 02:04 |
| lgsobalvarro | seth_k: :-p | 02:04 |
| nocloud | seth_k...where is the login manager.... | 02:04 |
| caeza | but the kubuntu_default_Settings package overrides my configuration | 02:04 |
| caeza | always | 02:05 |
| nocloud | yes! | 02:05 |
| nocloud | same here! | 02:05 |
| caeza | yes, same arround the world, i think | 02:05 |
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| caeza | kdm depende on kubuntu_defualts settings | 02:05 |
| caeza | :( | 02:05 |
| nocloud | i don't have any package installed either.... | 02:05 |
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| nocloud | using the kde that came with kubuntu 5.04 | 02:06 |
| caeza | 3.4.0? is full of bugs | 02:06 |
| pax | /etc/apache2/sites-available/default | 02:06 |
| caeza | im using kde 3.4.2 | 02:06 |
| nocloud | i think i have 3.4.0..... | 02:07 |
| caeza | yes | 02:07 |
| nocloud | is upgrading difficult? | 02:07 |
| gdh | 5.04 was the first Kubuntu so (major) bugs are not surprising :) | 02:07 |
| gdh | Breezy in October isn't far away now ;) | 02:07 |
| caeza | is there a way to make a kdm that NOT depends on kubuntu_default_settings? | 02:08 |
| nocloud | hmmm, how tough will it be to upgrade to breezy in oct? | 02:08 |
| gdh | nocloud: not tough at all - that's the whole point :) | 02:09 |
| gdh | no need to reinstall your whole system every year (a la Red Hat ) | 02:09 |
| nocloud | so...what exactly will i need to do to upgrade? | 02:09 |
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| gdh | nocloud: full details will be posted at the time - but pretty much change sources.list, and apt-get dist-upgrade... | 02:10 |
| _ben | what is the best kind of file to get for kubuntu (.deb,.rpm, etc)? | 02:10 |
| nocloud | i won't lose any setting or installed apps right? | 02:10 |
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| gdh | _ben: if you're asking that question, then probably none if the package you want isn't already in the kubuntu archive | 02:10 |
| c0rrupt_ | gdh are the wine tools at the winehq site? | 02:11 |
| gdh | the 'deb' will assume you're using debian | 02:11 |
| Ben1842 | hm.... | 02:11 |
| gdh | c0rrupt_: apt-cache show winetools | 02:11 |
| Ben1842 | so what to do when it's not included? | 02:11 |
| gdh | Ben1842: compile from source? you could /try/ the .deb I suppose | 02:11 |
| gdh | what's the package? | 02:11 |
| Ben1842 | it's a front end for dosbox | 02:12 |
| Ben1842 | thought I'd try it out | 02:12 |
| Ben1842 | I tryed compileing last night and it was a little over my head | 02:12 |
| gdh | fair enough. | 02:12 |
| Ben1842 | I did it but I couldn't find the file | 02:12 |
| c0rrupt_ | hmm | 02:13 |
| c0rrupt_ | i have a windows license.. | 02:13 |
| Ben1842 | and the guy I talked to on here said I shouldn't compile anyway | 02:13 |
| Ben1842 | so I was wondering if there was an alternative like and RPM or something | 02:13 |
| gdh | Ben1842: Yeh, the compile will just put binaries in /usr/local/bin .. (when you do make install) | 02:13 |
| gdh | no, rpm definately won't help | 02:13 |
| Ben1842 | ok so what is my best bet? | 02:14 |
| Ben1842 | for an easy or simi easy install? | 02:14 |
| Ben1842 | of programs not in the apt-get library | 02:14 |
| Ben1842 | or is there an option lol | 02:15 |
| gdh | you could try the .deb they supply.. or compile from source :) | 02:15 |
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| Ben1842 | I thought compile = bad lol | 02:15 |
| gdh | .. not much choice :) | 02:16 |
| c0rrupt_ | does kubuntu need a swap? | 02:16 |
| Ben1842 | nothing in usr/local/bin from what I compiled last night lol | 02:16 |
| caeza | i think i will compile kde from the source | 02:16 |
| gdh | .. or just learn how to use dosbox from the commandline | 02:16 |
| gdh | ? | 02:16 |
| caeza | wothout kubuntu's packeages and settings | 02:16 |
| gdh | caeza: you're in the wrong channel ;) try #gentoo :) | 02:16 |
| Ben1842 | yeah I know I can use it from command but typeing gets old after a while | 02:17 |
| caeza | #gentoo? im not using gentoo :S | 02:17 |
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| caeza | im using Ubuntu | 02:17 |
| gdh | ... yes I know :) | 02:19 |
| gdh | recompiling the whole of kde from source is definately outside the (k)ubuntu philosophy. | 02:19 |
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| Ben1842 | ok so then things I compile go to the usr/local/bin folder? | 02:19 |
| gdh | Ben1842: that's the normal way - and /usr/local/bin is already in your default path, so you should be able to run the prog just by typing its name | 02:20 |
| Ben1842 | I see | 02:20 |
| caeza | i dont care kubuntu's philosphy, i want to customize my computer | 02:20 |
| Ben1842 | ok thx alot you have been a huge help | 02:20 |
| caeza | and kubuntu's kdm is not customizable | 02:20 |
| caeza | =( | 02:20 |
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| Ben1842 | it's not? how customized do you need to get? | 02:21 |
| Ben1842 | icons themes widgets | 02:21 |
| gdh | caeza: How long do you sit and stare at a login prompt for? | 02:21 |
| Ben1842 | what else could you want? | 02:21 |
| caeza | gdh: but i need the users list because my sister have 5 years old | 02:22 |
| caeza | and she uses the PC | 02:22 |
| caeza | and she NEEDS the kdm with the list | 02:22 |
| gdh | caeza: I'll admit I use gdm because of that feature at work | 02:22 |
| Ben1842 | partiotion out windows for her she's 5 | 02:22 |
| gdh | so call centre operators who are too stupid to remember their login name can choose it from a list | 02:22 |
| Ben1842 | LOL | 02:23 |
| caeza | heh... i want she will use Linux from now =) | 02:23 |
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| Ben1842 | well than she better learn to type lol | 02:23 |
| gdh | aye, before Billyboy has a chance to corrupt her :) | 02:23 |
| caeza | I know that i see kdm just a few seconds, but is really really ugly on kubuntu | 02:25 |
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| nocloud | anybody notice that konqueror tends to take up a lot of ram and not give it back | 02:28 |
| nocloud | and that eventually, ram usage in kubuntu gets higher and higher as your session continues? | 02:28 |
| T-Bass | haven't noticed it. you mean as your browse or what? remember caching is a good thing. no need to give it back unless something needs it | 02:29 |
| caeza | yes, kubuntu is like windows with the ram :( | 02:30 |
| caeza | i have to restart my PC every 3 hours | 02:30 |
| T-Bass | in this case that's not an insult. caching is a godsend. | 02:30 |
| T-Bass | why restart? exhaust ram? | 02:30 |
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| caeza | yes... it start using 220 MB with amaroK, Kopete and Konqueror. 3 hours later, ram usage is arround 450 -500 MB | 02:31 |
| caeza | and im just chating | 02:31 |
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| caeza | and listening music | 02:31 |
| T-Bass | but there's nothing wrong with caching. not saying you aren't seeing a leak. but caching is SUPPOSED to happen | 02:32 |
| T-Bass | the more you use the computer, the more it caches. disk writes, disk reads, anything it can. that's the sign of a GOOD design | 02:32 |
| caeza | but there are no reason to use 500 MB of ram listening music | 02:33 |
| gdh | caeza: many of the mp3s you're playing will be cached in RAM. | 02:33 |
| caeza | it apeears to be a mac XD | 02:33 |
| T-Bass | possibly. but is it taking up the ram? or is something else (like disk cache) | 02:33 |
| gdh | caeza: If any real program wants RAM, the cache will be flushed out | 02:33 |
| Octane | whats an edonkey client for KDE? | 02:33 |
| gdh | kmldonkey ? | 02:34 |
| caeza | i understand, but why 3 "little" apps uses 250 MB and Operating System uses another 250 MB. It's make no sense | 02:34 |
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| Octane | gdh: thank you | 02:35 |
| gdh | =) | 02:35 |
| T-Bass | there's nothing little about kde services. unless you see yourself exhausing ram and dying because of it, it's doing it's job | 02:35 |
| caeza | that's true | 02:36 |
| caeza | well, really im not worry about rebooting every 3 or 4 hours. Windows needs to roboot every 30 minutes, lol | 02:36 |
| T-Bass | it will TRY to fill up ram. and then if it needs to it'll start flushing cache to load more active programs and swap the other stuff | 02:36 |
| T-Bass | yuck. you shouldnt' need to reboot. in fact, you are slowing yourself down by "manually" flushing your cache. | 02:37 |
| T-Bass | it was to re-cache everything and then you reboot and start over again. :) | 02:37 |
| caeza | oh i see. i have no idea about Linux, i just use it | 02:37 |
| caeza | then, no more reboots | 02:38 |
| T-Bass | cool. well that's a good thing. the kubuntu disk installer (and not handling RAID well) almost made me not use kubuntu | 02:38 |
| T-Bass | but i'm glad i did (2 days now). it's awesome .. mandrake/fedora/suse convert | 02:38 |
| T-Bass | definately don't reboot. as long as you have swap space, you'll be fine. and it'll get faster as you use it (or so the cache theory goes) | 02:39 |
| caeza | i have 1 GB of swap and 256 MB of ram | 02:39 |
| T-Bass | you're fine then. you'll run forever. :) | 02:40 |
| T-Bass | let the OS handle figuring out what you are using a lot. it'll put the most used stuff right into RAM. and store the other stuff for later | 02:40 |
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| caeza | oh, i see. then, reboot is very stupid :S | 02:41 |
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| c0rrupt_ | can i install slackware packages? | 02:46 |
| c0rrupt_ | with kubuntu | 02:46 |
| Octane | anyone here run kmldonkey on an amd64 machine? | 02:48 |
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| c0rrupt_ | whats the command to redetect hardware | 03:04 |
| c0rrupt_ | like pcmia cards | 03:05 |
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| c0rrupt_ | can ubuntu use slackware packages? | 03:16 |
| T-Bass | if there is a .deb converter for them, sure. | 03:16 |
| eNiNjA | have you tried alien? works in ubuntu..... | 03:17 |
| gdh | slackware .pkg's are just tarballs | 03:18 |
| gdh | mind, I suppose by that logic .deb's are just shar-archives. | 03:18 |
| gdh | ignore me | 03:19 |
| T-Bass | gdh: :) dependencies are impressive .. slack doesn't do that, right? | 03:19 |
| T-Bass | never ran slack .. well, once a million years ago (1996) | 03:19 |
| gdh | slack has a faint idea of dependencies | 03:20 |
| gdh | (yes, me too about 1996 :) | 03:20 |
| T-Bass | i'm so impressed with the speed of .deb's (or apt-get, not sure which). but .rpms from mandrake/fedora were so damn slow to install | 03:20 |
| T-Bass | apt-get flies like no tomorrow | 03:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | ok? | 03:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | well | 03:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | that doesnt help me | 03:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | im trying to install rtl8180 drivers | 03:20 |
| T-Bass | what doesn't? alien? | 03:20 |
| gdh | I did like Patrick's Volkerding's decision to jump eform Slack 3.6 -> 7.0 because MDK / RedHat were up to those versions :D | 03:20 |
| c0rrupt_ | tried using ndiswrapper and the windows binary driver | 03:21 |
| T-Bass | why not. he makes it, he can call it 0x5D if he wants | 03:21 |
| gdh | c0rrupt_: a driver needs to be compiled against your running kernel... | 03:21 |
| c0rrupt_ | so | 03:21 |
| c0rrupt_ | i need to re-config my kernel with the driver and compile the whole kernel? | 03:21 |
| gdh | so you'll need the source for the driver and at least the kernel-headers package | 03:21 |
| c0rrupt_ | have the source | 03:21 |
| gdh | no, if the driver isn't a piece of shit, then the kernel-headers should be adequate | 03:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | ok | 03:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | LOL | 03:22 |
| T-Bass | blech. sounds terrible. i'm so "over" messing with kernels. i gave it up .. a million years ago. :) | 03:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | well | 03:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | how can i use the kernel-headers | 03:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | there is no kernel source here | 03:22 |
| gdh | T-Bass: Sometimes hardware gives you no choice | 03:22 |
| gdh | my brain has just issued a shutdown notification | 03:23 |
| gdh | so I guess it's time for bed. | 03:23 |
| gdh | good luck with the driver :) | 03:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | eh | 03:23 |
| gdh | nn | 03:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | LOL | 03:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | damn | 03:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | ;\ | 03:23 |
| T-Bass | gdh: i hear you. i won't buy the hardware, or i won't install it. at least that's what i've been able to do so far | 03:24 |
| T-Bass | doh | 03:24 |
| coolblue | how can i get default kubuntu desktop settings???? | 03:24 |
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| coolblue | how can i get default kubuntu desktop settings???? i got stupid yoper's settings...... | 03:25 |
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| coolblue | how can i get default kubuntu desktop settings???? i got stupid yoper's settings...... | 03:29 |
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| jbasilio | coolblue: what default's are you looking for? if you really want default, mv .kde .kde.bak and scrape stuff back in for your settings | 03:30 |
| coolblue | i mean....i want kubuntu's...i got the previous distro's | 03:32 |
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| jbasilio | coolblue: right. if you do "mv .kde .kde.bak" and log out and in again .. you'll get it | 03:33 |
| jbasilio | coolblue: then you can copy back in your .kde/share/<whatever> bits in order to restore your apps ... kmail settings, etc | 03:34 |
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| jrattner1 | How do you set up hotkeys in KDE? | 03:38 |
| Octane | jrattner1: in control center under accessibility | 03:41 |
| boga | jrattner1: fing Regional & Accessibility and look for Hot keys somewhere | 03:41 |
| Octane | or in the menu editor under each item | 03:41 |
| jrattner1 | i found that but its actually a little confusing | 03:41 |
| jbasilio | here's a question. where are the menus stored? i have this "lost & found" in my menu that irritates the hell out of me | 03:42 |
| coolblue | mv .kde .kde.bak - in terminal? any gui way? what does this do? | 03:42 |
| boga | jbasilio: Right click on KDE's "start" button and edit the menu. | 03:42 |
| jrattner1 | DO i want keyboard shortcuts or Khotkeys | 03:43 |
| jbasilio | boga: well, i just want the "default" one. don't want to edit individual users menus | 03:43 |
| boga | some software not native to KDE must have been installed. Look for it and uninstall it. | 03:44 |
| jbasilio | coolblue: it moved all of your KDE settings out of the way. EVERYTHING. as in all your user settings. then it will rebuild when you log in | 03:45 |
| jbasilio | coolblue: it depends on how badly you want the defaults. you essentially have to reenter stuff like usernames/mail etc | 03:45 |
| jbasilio | coolblue: but you can copy it all back in 1 at a time .. | 03:45 |
| coolblue | but only for konq? not for ff right? | 03:46 |
| jbasilio | right. konq and everything kde related (kmail, kopete, kwallet) | 03:46 |
| jrattner1 | KHOTKEYS is terrible | 03:52 |
| jrattner1 | is there a config file somewhere | 03:52 |
| jrattner1 | i just want to hotkey my browser and stuff | 03:52 |
| dell500 | i'm having a huge problem with my time being correct, how do i fix this? it's on the right time zone and everything | 03:53 |
| twidget | I'm only wondering: can you make Kubuntu appear to behave like Mac OS X? | 03:54 |
| twidget | The dock and such? | 03:55 |
| twidget | If not, no big deal, like I said: only wondering. | 03:55 |
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| jbasilio | twidget: i've seen screen shots that look like mac os x. i never worked on it to figure out how they did it | 04:00 |
| jbasilio | looks on kde-apps or kde-look | 04:00 |
| twidget | jbasilio: thanks | 04:00 |
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| jbasilio | twidget: sure. not much help though .. :) | 04:01 |
| jrattner1 | where is the configureation file for khotkeys? | 04:01 |
| twidget | I'm also toying with the idea of trying Gentoo/GNOME | 04:01 |
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| jbasilio | twidget: you can pull down gnome from kubuntu. easy. | 04:01 |
| jbasilio | and you won't need to wait 5 days between package installations .. and your CPU won't fry eggs | 04:01 |
| twidget | I think I'll try their live CD first, just to get an idea of what it's like. | 04:02 |
| jbasilio | twidget: you do know in gentoo you recompile everything you want to install, right? | 04:03 |
| twidget | I'm hoping their screen won't self-distruct 5 minutes into anything. | 04:03 |
| twidget | jbasilio: I've heard that, but being a newbie, that really hadn't sunk in exactly what it means. | 04:04 |
| jbasilio | the default ubuntu looks pretty nice. | 04:04 |
| jrattner1 | where can i get the ubuntu smp kernel | 04:04 |
| jbasilio | twidget: it means every time you install something .. it'll take a LOOOONG time. hours | 04:04 |
| jbasilio | twidget: hours for big apps i mean .. kde would be days | 04:04 |
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| twidget | My screen turns to garbage within minutes. | 04:04 |
| jbasilio | twidget: if you are looking for different "looks", play around with swapping in gnome .. apt-get install <gnome-apps> | 04:05 |
| twidget | like its copying from an offscreen bitmap, where there isn't one. | 04:05 |
| twidget | It could be because I'm on an AMD 64 | 04:05 |
| jbasilio | twidget: what video card? | 04:05 |
| twidget | Um... on the motherboard | 04:07 |
| twidget | Asus ANI8-SLI deluxe or something like that | 04:07 |
| twidget | I'm looking... | 04:08 |
| jbasilio | twidget: ok. didn't know if it was nvidia and if you had installed nvidia xorg drivers. if so, agp can be an issue | 04:09 |
| twidget | I haven't installed anything additional yet. | 04:10 |
| jbasilio | twidget: was there a special kernel for amd 64? | 04:10 |
| twidget | what's the package I should look for | 04:10 |
| twidget | ? | 04:10 |
| twidget | the CD I downloaded is for AMD 64 | 04:10 |
| jbasilio | oh, that should definately cover it then. | 04:10 |
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| twidget | Crap! | 04:11 |
| jbasilio | did you google around? | 04:11 |
| twidget | Slowly but surely, my windows are all turning to garbage | 04:11 |
| jbasilio | maybe you're having a matrix moment. :) | 04:12 |
| jbasilio | can you find the mother board model #? | 04:12 |
| jbasilio | and video card if possible | 04:13 |
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| twidget | Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe | 04:14 |
| twidget | using the nForce 4 video on the mohterboard | 04:14 |
| jbasilio | ahh. so it is nvidia | 04:14 |
| jbasilio | try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. in the "device" section, add | 04:15 |
| jbasilio | Option "NvAGP" "0" | 04:15 |
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| jbasilio | this will disable AGP .. i had issues with this also (nvidia, not nforce) | 04:15 |
| jbasilio | also, did you install the nvidia drivers? | 04:16 |
| twidget | no, you know where to find the package | 04:16 |
| jbasilio | if not, read ubuntuguide.org and do what it says to upgrade to the nvidia proprietary stuff ... do that first without the "option" line | 04:16 |
| jbasilio | http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver | 04:17 |
| jbasilio | if you've never used ubuntuguide.org it's the most awesome resource around | 04:17 |
| twidget | how can I edit that file, again? (sorry) | 04:19 |
| twidget | I'm at a console | 04:20 |
| jbasilio | i'm guessing you don't know vi. :) sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 04:21 |
| twidget | anything other than nano? | 04:22 |
| jbasilio | twidget: don't edit it until you do the upgrade to the proprietary drivers | 04:22 |
| twidget | jeez | 04:23 |
| jbasilio | i dunno .. i use vi | 04:23 |
| jbasilio | the proprietary drivers will update it from "nv" to "nvidia" .. | 04:23 |
| twidget | brb, gotta log off so I read anything... for at least a few seconds | 04:23 |
| jbasilio | not a big deal .. but try that first. the nvidia drivers are completely different so that might solve it anyways .. no need to turn off agp and slow it down | 04:23 |
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| jrattner1 | Has anyone here ever got KHotkeys to work | 04:25 |
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| nocloud | does anybody know how to change the default application that a certain file type opens with? | 05:00 |
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| jbasilio | nocloud: if you right click on the application->Properties->little wrench thing | 05:03 |
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| _andy | does anybody know how to change the default application to open a certain file type (sorry if i'm asking this again...i got disconnected right after the last time i asked) | 05:11 |
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| Dhraakellian | _andy, in kde, kcontrol > kde components > file associations | 05:13 |
| Dhraakellian | (also accessible through Konqueror's settings) | 05:13 |
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| twidget | My power has been knocked out | 05:15 |
| twidget | about 45 minutes now | 05:15 |
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| twidget | In vi, how do you save something once you've edited it? | 05:22 |
| jsubl2 | :w | 05:23 |
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| ilba7r | i am using ubuntu and thinking on installing kde so do you guys recommend kubuntu or just pure kde | 05:28 |
| ilba7r | what is the adv of kubuntu setting over regular kde | 05:28 |
| twidget | jbasilio: still around? | 05:28 |
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| hater2win | hey | 05:35 |
| twidget | Do I following the last step http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver for kubuntu? Or is that just for GNOME? | 05:36 |
| jsubl2 | kubuntu too | 05:36 |
| twidget | it opens up a new file, then | 05:37 |
| _andy | i have a question about kopete.... | 05:37 |
| _andy | it doesn't seem to refresh my buddy list | 05:37 |
| jsubl2 | twidget, it is a driver for the X server | 05:37 |
| _andy | it doesn't seem to notice when somebody signs on or off... | 05:37 |
| twidget | Mmmmkay.... | 05:38 |
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| twidget | When I do "sudo nano /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop" I get a new file. Is that right? | 05:47 |
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| Horizon | hello | 05:47 |
| Horizon | would anyone here be able to help me with a simple kubuntu issue? | 05:49 |
| seth_k | sure thing | 05:49 |
| Horizon | thanks :) I'm a complete linux newb, so please bear with me... I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 5.04 and when I type startx at the command prompt, I get a 'no screens found' error | 05:50 |
| Horizon | I think this may have something to do with the install and it not being able to recognize my video card? (ati x800) | 05:51 |
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| Horizon | I chose "automatically partition free space" (or something like that) and it made a 71gb partition and a 3gp swap partition on my 74gb raptor; I started the install after that | 05:53 |
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| c0rrupt_ | ok.. | 05:54 |
| Horizon | sorry for the long winded explanation! | 05:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | when trying to login with kubuntu, i type my username and pass then login. the screen goes blank.. then i a few seconds later i am back to the login screen | 05:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | worked fine a little while ago.. | 05:56 |
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| c0rrupt_ | i went into a root shell | 05:58 |
| c0rrupt_ | then startx | 05:58 |
| c0rrupt_ | and it logged me in as root | 05:58 |
| c0rrupt_ | but i cant get onto my normal account | 05:58 |
| c0rrupt_ | anyone have any ideas? | 05:59 |
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| Horizon | someone able to help with a kubuntu issue? :) | 06:05 |
| duende | ask the question, if someone knows the answer, they'll answer | 06:07 |
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| Horizon | ok, I'll copy it down | 06:14 |
| Horizon | I'm a complete linux newb, so please bear with me... I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 5.04 and when I type startx at the command prompt, I get a 'no screens found' error | 06:14 |
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| Horizon | <Horizon> I think this may have something to do with the install and it not being able to recognize my video card? (ati x800) | 06:14 |
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| Horizon | <Horizon> I chose "automatically partition free space" (or something like that) and it made a 71gb partition and a 3gp swap partition on my 74gb raptor; I started the install after that | 06:14 |
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| _hater2win | hmm | 06:16 |
| _hater2win | not sure about that one Horizon | 06:16 |
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| ThunderSteel | hi | 06:16 |
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| ThunderSteel | does anybody here know about the ubuntu services? | 06:17 |
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| ThunderSteel | would like to know about the large amount of services loaded in ubuntu/kubuntu | 06:20 |
| bpuccio | anyone know why I can receive messages fine over IRC and other chat mediums, but can't with AIM over kopete? I just migrated from gnome and gaim and everything else seems to work just fine in KDE, but I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't receive an IM, especially when the other computer is sending it across the room and i can see th messages being sent | 06:21 |
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| _hater2win | maybe cuz kopete is t3h suck and gaim will always r0x0r all s0x | 06:26 |
| _hater2win | lol, just kidding | 06:26 |
| _hater2win | uhh | 06:26 |
| _hater2win | ive never heard of that happening | 06:26 |
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| DJ_Stefan0 | Why is the ISO image corrupted? | 06:31 |
| DJ_Stefan0 | the i386 install thats officialy on the website | 06:31 |
| DJ_Stefan0 | i just downloaded it and burnt it as it is onto a high quality CD | 06:31 |
| Horizon | here's another one for you guys then :) I'm trying to edit xorg.conf after a fresh install from the command prompt. My system won't boot into the GUI. I get an error "Could not open file for writing: permission denied" I'm logged in with the username/password I created when setting up the system (at least I think I am) | 06:32 |
| DJ_Stefan0 | it fails to load modules from the CD | 06:32 |
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| Borg^Queen | Hey people | 06:34 |
| Borg^Queen | I wanted to varify something, If I wanted to bring kubuntu up to a devel plateform just for basic stuff like creating my own packages and the like. I could do that right, the packages are available | 06:38 |
| Borg^Queen | Hmm anyone alive? | 06:42 |
| Borg^Queen | Undead? | 06:42 |
| DJ_Stefan0 | or in a state of vegetation maybe.. | 06:42 |
| Borg^Queen | I knew I forgot one | 06:43 |
| Borg^Queen | It seems like a dead night, | 06:43 |
| Borg^Queen | Not likely I'll find an answer. Good Night to you Vegetable Man | 06:44 |
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| ThunderSteel | hehehehee | 06:47 |
| pax | anyone using apache2? | 06:50 |
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| twidget | There's a simple setting somewhere telling music apps and such to enable digital sound output. Anyone know where it is? | 07:04 |
| twidget | I can't seem to locate it at the moment | 07:05 |
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| hater2win | whats command to delete a directory? | 07:07 |
| twidget | Nevermind, I found it | 07:07 |
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| propagandhi | can anyone tell me if u should use an SMP kernel if u have a centrino | 07:15 |
| crimsun | no. | 07:16 |
| crimsun | linux-686 works fine. | 07:16 |
| propagandhi | ok, but technically speaking would it support/benefit from a SMP kernel | 07:16 |
| crimsun | no. | 07:17 |
| propagandhi | ok | 07:17 |
| crimsun | the centrino is a solution. It's a pentium m with an ipw2*00. | 07:17 |
| crimsun | the pentium m is not smp. | 07:17 |
| propagandhi | ok, excellent, thats all i need to know, thanks for the help | 07:18 |
| propagandhi | so when compiling kernel from source i shouldnt enable smp | 07:18 |
| crimsun | correct. | 07:18 |
| propagandhi | excellent | 07:18 |
| propagandhi | cheers for that | 07:18 |
| crimsun | (not sure why you'd need to compile a new kernel...) | 07:18 |
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| nocloud | if i have KDE 3.4, is it worth my while to upgrade to 3.4.2? | 08:00 |
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| fatejudger | does anyone in here use Kopete? | 08:36 |
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| Jeezis | fatejudger: i tried using it early on when i first switched to kubuntu | 08:37 |
| Jeezis | but i don't like the interface at all | 08:37 |
| fatejudger | I can't message people in AIM | 08:37 |
| fatejudger | like | 08:37 |
| fatejudger | I can't receive messages | 08:37 |
| Jeezis | hmm, are you sure you set up kopete correctly? | 08:37 |
| fatejudger | yeah | 08:37 |
| fatejudger | I can message people | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | if I delete their contact name | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | and then reenter it | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | I've just been using gaim | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | it's much better IMO | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | but the interfaces | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | don't quite match that of KDE | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | only gnome | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | system tray icon isn't transparent | 08:38 |
| fatejudger | things like that | 08:38 |
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| gman | . | 08:39 |
| gman | hi | 08:40 |
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| LlukaX | hi | 08:41 |
| LlukaX | does anyone know how to get a usb wireless connection to work in ubuntu? | 08:41 |
| crimsun | should just work | 08:42 |
| LlukaX | it wont detect any usb | 08:42 |
| crimsun | not even the usb host controller? | 08:42 |
| LlukaX | and also it freezes at bootup " loading hotplug subsystem" | 08:42 |
| LlukaX | i have to control c out | 08:42 |
| crimsun | is the usb net adapter plugged in during boot? | 08:43 |
| Jeezis | like what protocol to use and such | 08:43 |
| Jeezis | and are you sure you're logged in? can you see your buddy list? | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | no, i unpluged it at boot | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | still happens | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | yes im duel boot | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | im in windows right now | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | dual >_< | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | lol | 08:43 |
| LlukaX | any suggestions? or links | 08:45 |
| LlukaX | ? | 08:45 |
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| _ray | is anyone in here familiar with enemy-territory? | 08:47 |
| _ray | ? | 08:47 |
| TestMAD | no | 08:47 |
| TestMAD | y? | 08:47 |
| LlukaX | :'( | 08:47 |
| TestMAD | whats wrong? | 08:47 |
| LlukaX | cant get the net to work because my system wront read usb | 08:48 |
| TestMAD | dont have any usb so i wont be much help | 08:48 |
| TestMAD | sorry | 08:48 |
| TestMAD | i wonder | 08:48 |
| TestMAD | !usb | 08:48 |
| ubotu | TestMAD: I give up, what is it? | 08:48 |
| TestMAD | guess not | 08:48 |
| TestMAD | y does it need usb? | 08:49 |
| TestMAD | got a spare cat5 cable to use instead?? | 08:49 |
| _ray | TestMAD: no nothings wrong.....its just that i cant see any of the same games as people who play te game in windows | 08:49 |
| LlukaX | too far away | 08:49 |
| LlukaX | to use a cable | 08:49 |
| LlukaX | its a D-Link DWL-G120 | 08:49 |
| TestMAD | i wonder if it has ro do with running linux client or win client? | 08:49 |
| TestMAD | too far away to use cable..??] | 08:50 |
| TestMAD | how can that be? | 08:50 |
| LlukaX | a cable | 08:50 |
| LlukaX | well, i dont own the house to myself either | 08:50 |
| LlukaX | so ... im stuck with wireless | 08:50 |
| TestMAD | usb can only go 3ft | 08:50 |
| LlukaX | its wireless | 08:50 |
| TestMAD | ok..so whas the deal with usb then? | 08:50 |
| _ray | TestMAD: it shouldn't becuase there is literally thousands of rooms with millions of people playing they all cant be linux users | 08:51 |
| LlukaX | thats was what i could afford | 08:51 |
| LlukaX | :/ | 08:51 |
| LlukaX | a usb transmitter | 08:51 |
| TestMAD | ok..o you havee a usb wifi? | 08:51 |
| LlukaX | and the router is a D-Link | 08:51 |
| LlukaX | yah | 08:51 |
| TestMAD | what kind? | 08:51 |
| LlukaX | the router or the transmitter? | 08:52 |
| TestMAD | trans | 08:52 |
| P3L|C4N0 | model of usb? dwl-120?? | 08:52 |
| LlukaX | D-Link DWL-G120 | 08:52 |
| TestMAD | and the router? | 08:52 |
| LlukaX | not sure lemme go look | 08:52 |
| TestMAD | n/m | 08:52 |
| TestMAD | dont worry | 08:52 |
| TestMAD | hold on a sec | 08:52 |
| LlukaX | DI-514 | 08:53 |
| LlukaX | D-Link as well | 08:53 |
| TestMAD | grr..i hate verizons dns server..it blows..i cant surf.. | 08:53 |
| LlukaX | >_< | 08:54 |
| TestMAD | does any one know how to list usb devices off hand? | 08:54 |
| P3L|C4N0 | LlukaX, http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=268 | 08:54 |
| TestMAD | thnx for helping..im stuck in xp right now | 08:54 |
| LlukaX | yes that the thing i have | 08:54 |
| P3L|C4N0 | this? | 08:54 |
| LlukaX | yups | 08:55 |
| P3L|C4N0 | @google ubuntu+dwl-g120 | 08:56 |
| ubuntu-es | P3L|C4N0: Search took 0.025648 seconds: Ubuntu Forums - Networking: <http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-18-p-3.html>; Linuxant - DriverLoader for Wireless LAN devices - DriverLoader ...: <http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/changes.php>; D-Link Forum - User helfen Usern: <http://forum.dlink.de/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=114667&TOPIC_ID=22569&FORUM_ID=20>; LinuxQuestions.org time (2 more messages) | 08:56 |
| P3L|C4N0 | an Linuxant? | 08:56 |
| P3L|C4N0 | --> Added support for 2.6.11 kernels. | 08:59 |
| LlukaX | so um | 09:01 |
| LlukaX | anyone know why it could be freezing at boot? | 09:02 |
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| _ray | ok | 09:16 |
| _ray | u guys up for a question | 09:16 |
| _ray | ? | 09:16 |
| _ray | sleeping everyone? | 09:17 |
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| jloden | how do I disable any firewalling? I just want to completely open the computer a few minutes so i can verify the connection problem I'm having isn't from a firewall. | 09:22 |
| ilba7r | jloden install firestarter | 09:23 |
| ilba7r | then disable the firewall though if you installed kubuntu without the firewall it should be open already | 09:24 |
| jloden | ok, will try that | 09:24 |
| Jeezis | i use guarddog firewall, it's very easy to set up and hasn't given me any trouble | 09:26 |
| jloden | ahhhhh that was the name of the firewall tool I had before, I couldn't remember anything except the word dog in the name | 09:27 |
| Jeezis | yup, i recommend it :) | 09:27 |
| _ray | ok | 09:27 |
| ilba7r | jeezis firedog has some problems its harder to manipulate if you wana connect to a lan | 09:27 |
| _ray | say i wanted to open a video file from konq... and i wanted it to open it with xine....but the deafault is noatun...how do i change it | 09:28 |
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| ilba7r | _ray i think right clicking on it than choosing openwith will do the trick you can also change it from the kde control center preferred appl | 09:29 |
| _ray | ilba7r: yea i want to change it for good | 09:30 |
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| _ray | i dont friggin get it!!!!!!!!!!! | 09:40 |
| ilba7r | what is your problem _ray | 09:41 |
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| _ray | ilba7r: ok.......i got it so xine is the default....and it works....but when i click on big movies it plays the mp3 file next in the list instead of the movie...if i right click and say open with xine it works fine | 09:42 |
| ilba7r | lol _ray sorry can not help you there thats wierd | 09:43 |
| _ray | ilba7r: yeah it really wierd...and it is an avi file...all my short avi files work fine but the long ones dont....and this is the same for any player....kaffine...kaboodle...xine...mplayer...and noatun | 09:45 |
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| ilba7r | _ray join ubuntu and post your question there there are more knowledgeble people then me there | 09:46 |
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| _ray | any of you guys try mepis? | 09:49 |
| ilba7r | i did | 09:50 |
| _ray | no good? | 09:50 |
| ilba7r | it detected my hardware perfectly | 09:50 |
| _ray | whoa nevrmind i dont like the idea that the latest release you have to pay for | 09:51 |
| ilba7r | but the community here is much more better | 09:51 |
| ilba7r | i had too many unanswered questions there | 09:51 |
| _ray | yeah and kubuntu is really good........ubuntu worked a bit better for me but gnome is so ugly | 09:52 |
| ilba7r | _ray you need to get used to gnome to like it i was a kde guy myself | 09:52 |
| ilba7r | now i hate it | 09:52 |
| ilba7r | you just need to tweek gnome to your taste | 09:53 |
| _ray | oh i like gnome.....very much | 09:53 |
| _ray | its like a tossup right now | 09:53 |
| Elsidox | u dont need to get used to anything | 09:54 |
| Elsidox | kde4 is going to be gerat | 09:54 |
| Elsidox | =) | 09:54 |
| ilba7r | any way after too many unansered questions on mepis i had to return to ubuntu also they do not teach you there they act like windows just follow what they recommend blindly | 09:54 |
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| _ray | Elsidox: why is there so much hype for kde4 why is it going to be so good | 09:55 |
| _ray | kde just looks so much better | 09:55 |
| ilba7r | elsidox the problem with kde that i encountered is not looks its stability | 09:55 |
| Elsidox | _ray: Because theres alot of rethinking going on | 09:55 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: I agree. | 09:56 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: I would be on kde right now if it was a bit more stable | 09:56 |
| Elsidox | i prefer kde over gnome | 09:56 |
| _ray | ilba7r: yeah gnome seems to be more stable | 09:56 |
| ilba7r | elsidox frankly me too it has too many short cuts and better integration | 09:56 |
| Elsidox | im currently running gnome but ever app I have open is a kde app. Kopete, kaddress, amarok lol | 09:56 |
| _ray | yeah im gonna switch back i think | 09:57 |
| ilba7r | and the fonts and look is not the same lol | 09:57 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: yes. I noticed that. I changed that right away thow when I first ran kde. | 09:57 |
| ilba7r | basically my only problem is with kile and lyx which i use heavily and look really bad under gnome | 09:57 |
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| _ray | ok lets all just use xfce ........lol | 09:58 |
| Elsidox | _ray: id do a fresh install of kubuntu if your going to run into kde. Ive ran into problems when installing from apt. It seems less stable. | 09:58 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: ive never heard of either of those programs | 09:58 |
| ilba7r | elsidox do you prefer kubuntu-desktop or just kde | 09:58 |
| _ray | Elsidox: no im gonna reinstall regular ubuntu and use gnome | 09:59 |
| ilba7r | elsidox they are both front ends to latex the program i use for writting | 09:59 |
| Elsidox | _ray: well that works to =) | 09:59 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: I like what the kubuntu ppl have done, But I prefer kde deafualts. | 09:59 |
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| ilba7r | _ray a little advise after you set up your pc use rsync to make an image of your home directory | 10:00 |
| ilba7r | then if you did reinstall you can just retrive your old setting with a touch of a botton | 10:00 |
| Elsidox | apt-get install lyx =) | 10:00 |
| _ray | i cant do that now can i? | 10:00 |
| ilba7r | you sure can if you want your old setup | 10:01 |
| ilba7r | just create the image on another pc | 10:01 |
| znh | [10:00] <znh> !gnome | 10:01 |
| znh | [10:00] <ubotu> gnome is, like, terrible | 10:01 |
| _ray | brb | 10:01 |
| ilba7r | hopefully there will be no conflicts | 10:01 |
| znh | rofl | 10:01 |
| ilba7r | elsidox only if you use latex lyx is the best front end i found for it | 10:01 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: I dont do much writing. I just wanted to check it out. I like trying out new program i never heard of. | 10:02 |
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| _ray | wow xfce looks great | 10:02 |
| ilba7r | ok then check in prefrences install recommended applications too | 10:03 |
| ilba7r | for it needs imagemagick latex htmllatex and a bunch of other appl | 10:03 |
| ilba7r | and its not too showy like Openoffice but much more stable | 10:03 |
| Elsidox | ilba7r: I dislike openoffice. I like stable and simple. =) | 10:04 |
| Elsidox | _ray: xfce is really nice. I would be using it if it had a better file manager. A better one is being developed thow. | 10:04 |
| ilba7r | ok take care guys see ya later | 10:06 |
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| fre | kubuntu is great | 11:06 |
| fre | thanks dudes | 11:07 |
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| znh | gnome | 11:44 |
| znh | !gnome | 11:44 |
| ubotu | I heard gnome is terrible | 11:44 |
| buz | ROTFL | 11:44 |
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| mijndert | _O- | 11:44 |
| === znh hugs ubotu | ||
| Bubbling_Zombie | i lol'd | 11:45 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | :') | 11:45 |
| === mijndert is downloading Kubuntu right now | ||
| znh | mijndert: sweet :) | 11:45 |
| mijndert | Oh, it's finished downloading.. | 11:45 |
| mijndert | :/ | 11:45 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | start panicking ! | 11:45 |
| znh | !kde | 11:46 |
| mijndert | I've used Ubuntu (with Gnome) for a while, but KDE works better imo :P | 11:46 |
| znh | mijndert: I agree, gnome is so slow with many applications openned | 11:46 |
| mijndert | yeah :) | 11:46 |
| mijndert | And I hate that you can't edit the panel that much as on KDE | 11:47 |
| znh | !konversation | 11:47 |
| ubotu | rumour has it, konversation is a popualr, powerful and user-friendly IRC client for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konversation.kde.org | 11:47 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | !aspell | 11:47 |
| ubotu | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Bubbling_Zombie | 11:47 |
| buz | !kopete | 11:47 |
| ubotu | kopete is probably An advanced and comprehensive KDE instant messenger supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more; see http://kopete.kde.org | 11:47 |
| znh | !cedega | 11:47 |
| ubotu | it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega | 11:47 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | it's a POPULAR SPELLING thingy :sop: | 11:47 |
| znh | Bubbling_Zombie: why don't you add it to ubotu? | 11:47 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | humn | 11:48 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | where's his manual >_< | 11:48 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | and besides, that was a joke | 11:48 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | :p | 11:48 |
| znh | Bubbling_Zombie: lol, just do this: ubotu: aspell is your documentation here | 11:48 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | aybe later, dinner's ready \o/ | 11:48 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | bbiab | 11:48 |
| znh | have a nice meal | 11:48 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | thankyou | 11:49 |
| znh | !welcome | 11:49 |
| ubotu | znh: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about | 11:49 |
| znh | ubotu: welcome is something from those weird humans - they never welcome me :-(! | 11:49 |
| ubotu | okay, znh | 11:49 |
| znh | xD | 11:49 |
| mijndert | lol Dutch installation sucks :') | 11:50 |
| znh | it doesn't | 11:50 |
| znh | but english is more logical indeed :P | 11:50 |
| mijndert | hehe | 11:51 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | beh, fake alarm. dinner's not done yet >_<. | 11:51 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | wow, only dutch people on this channel :p | 11:51 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | make that 'dutch speaking' | 11:51 |
| mijndert | Dutch people are strange >.< | 11:51 |
| mijndert | Just like me xD | 11:51 |
| Bubbling_Zombie | they sure are :)- | 11:51 |
| znh | we humans are weird, I agree | 11:52 |
| znh | !human | 11:53 |
| ubotu | znh: No idea | 11:53 |
| znh | ubotu: human is != me | 11:53 |
| ubotu | znh: okay | 11:53 |
| znh | !human | 11:53 |
| znh | :> | 11:54 |
| znh | !human | 11:54 |
| ubotu | from memory, human is != me | 11:54 |
| buz | !dutch | 11:56 |
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| ubotu | buz: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about | 11:56 |
| mijndert | lol | 11:56 |
| buz | !swiss | 11:56 |
| ubotu | No idea, buz | 11:56 |
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| znh | ubotu: dutch is a language that is spoken in The Netherlands | 12:03 |
| ubotu | znh: okay | 12:03 |
| mijndert | Installing Ubuntu base system.. :o | 12:07 |
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| jpatrick | o.O | 12:08 |
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| LlukaX | has anyone had their system hang at boot at "starting hotplug subsystem" | 12:10 |
| jpatrick | no | 12:11 |
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| nikkia | oops | 12:29 |
| nikkia | when you change your network architecture, its a good idea to update your system scripts :P | 12:30 |
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| incubii | lol | 12:32 |
| nikkia | especially, if you happen to have ntpd startup in your runlevel scripts | 12:36 |
| nikkia | since ntpd just sits trying over and over and over to connect if it fails because of, oh, for example, your gateway being wrong :) | 12:36 |
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| fran | Hi, how can tell kubuntu tu use the standard KDE menu, with kate and kwrite in editors section? | 12:52 |
| znh | fran: you can edit that menu manualy, in kcontrol ;-) | 12:53 |
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| znh | chaning user, brb | 12:55 |
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| moshe | hello | 01:16 |
| moshe | is auth.log where to go to monitor ssh connections? | 01:16 |
| nikkia | yes | 01:17 |
| moshe | thanks | 01:17 |
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| LlukaX | hey can someone help me, my box wont recognize any usb | 01:20 |
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| OculusAquilae | LlukaX: perhaps | 01:22 |
| LlukaX | it also locks up at boot "starting hotplug subsystem" | 01:23 |
| OculusAquilae | hm, have you tried the live-cd before? | 01:23 |
| LlukaX | no | 01:23 |
| LlukaX | err.. im not using the proper graphics driver either | 01:24 |
| LlukaX | and its agp | 01:24 |
| LlukaX | so there are a number of things that could be causing it to hang up | 01:24 |
| OculusAquilae | hm, perhaps you can ask in #ubuntu, there are more ears and the problem would be there too | 01:24 |
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| LlukaX | but i cant use usb devices | 01:24 |
| OculusAquilae | hm | 01:25 |
| OculusAquilae | don't know much about usb, my devices simpy work :-) | 01:25 |
| LlukaX | im trying to set up wifi | 01:25 |
| LlukaX | i have set up all the drivers and all | 01:25 |
| LlukaX | but it doesnt know when the stupid thing is plugged in | 01:25 |
| LlukaX | :/ | 01:25 |
| OculusAquilae | is it a wifi stick? | 01:26 |
| LlukaX | usb wifi transmitter | 01:26 |
| LlukaX | its supported | 01:26 |
| LlukaX | i had to use ndiswrapper | 01:26 |
| LlukaX | also when i type in hotplug | 01:27 |
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| LlukaX | in console | 01:27 |
| LlukaX | the whole computer starts lagging | 01:27 |
| LlukaX | and even the mouse jumps a bit | 01:27 |
| OculusAquilae | have you other usb devices that don't work or have you typed dmesg in the console to see what happened after plugging in the device? | 01:27 |
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| LlukaX | no other usb devices are plugged in | 01:28 |
| LlukaX | i even tried booting with no devices | 01:28 |
| LlukaX | and it still freezes | 01:28 |
| OculusAquilae | hm | 01:28 |
| OculusAquilae | does dmesg write something directly after plugging in the device? | 01:29 |
| LlukaX | nope | 01:29 |
| LlukaX | it cant get that far | 01:29 |
| LlukaX | i have to control c out | 01:29 |
| OculusAquilae | no idea | 01:30 |
| LlukaX | :/ k | 01:31 |
| OculusAquilae | perhaps you can ask in the ubuntu forum | 01:32 |
| LlukaX | hmm | 01:32 |
| LlukaX | well see, i searched the forum | 01:32 |
| LlukaX | and many people have this problem | 01:32 |
| LlukaX | but for different reasons | 01:32 |
| LlukaX | and not one person has solved it | 01:33 |
| LlukaX | :( | 01:33 |
| OculusAquilae | hm | 01:33 |
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| nikkia | LlukaX: try taking off the 'quiet' command in grub's boot commands | 01:34 |
| LlukaX | ok | 01:35 |
| LlukaX | i'll try that | 01:35 |
| LlukaX | brb ok? | 01:35 |
| LlukaX | :P | 01:35 |
| nikkia | that way, hotplug should report every module it loads, and you might be able to see which module is causing the hang | 01:35 |
| LlukaX | thanx | 01:35 |
| LlukaX | :) | 01:35 |
| LlukaX | brb | 01:35 |
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| LlukaX | hmmm | 01:41 |
| nikkia | any luck ? | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | simply hangs up | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | no explanation | 01:42 |
| nikkia | are you sure its hotplug that's locking ? | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | yup | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | when i control c | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | and get into kubuntu | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | i typed hotplug | 01:42 |
| nikkia | that doesn't necessarily mean its hotplug | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | well | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | it locks up | 01:42 |
| LlukaX | like goes really slow | 01:43 |
| LlukaX | when i type hotplug withing kde | 01:43 |
| LlukaX | at boot up it simply freezes | 01:43 |
| nikkia | hotplug isn't designed to be run on a system that's up, it will likely lock any system | 01:43 |
| LlukaX | ok | 01:43 |
| LlukaX | im on dual boot | 01:43 |
| LlukaX | and i have 6 usb ports | 01:44 |
| LlukaX | the 2 in the front arent connected to the motherboard | 01:44 |
| LlukaX | could that be why? | 01:44 |
| nikkia | shouldn't be | 01:44 |
| LlukaX | k | 01:44 |
| nikkia | its probably a module that needs to be blacklisted | 01:44 |
| LlukaX | >_< | 01:45 |
| nikkia | it happens sometimes, you probably have some hw that looks enough like some other hw to confuse hotplug | 01:45 |
| nikkia | the trick is to find out which module is causing it | 01:45 |
| LlukaX | k | 01:45 |
| nikkia | which means turning on verbose mode in hotplug | 01:45 |
| LlukaX | hmm | 01:46 |
| LlukaX | how do i do that? | 01:46 |
| nikkia | edit /etc/default/rcS and change VERBOSE=no to VERBOSE=yes | 01:46 |
| LlukaX | and then run hotplug | 01:47 |
| LlukaX | ? | 01:47 |
| nikkia | no, reboot :/ | 01:47 |
| LlukaX | err | 01:47 |
| LlukaX | ok | 01:47 |
| LlukaX | i'll try that | 01:47 |
| LlukaX | brb | 01:47 |
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| LlukaX | agp_intel_init | 01:59 |
| LlukaX | sys_init module | 01:59 |
| LlukaX | sysenter _past_esp | 02:00 |
| LlukaX | kernel panic - not syncing fatal exception interrupt | 02:00 |
| LlukaX | then it freezes | 02:00 |
| LlukaX | its my video card | 02:00 |
| nikkia | ahhh, the intel_agp module is not very good | 02:01 |
| nikkia | add it to the blacklist file | 02:01 |
| LlukaX | mm how do i add it to black list? | 02:01 |
| nikkia | edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist | 02:01 |
| nikkia | just add a single line with intel_agp on it | 02:02 |
| LlukaX | um | 02:02 |
| LlukaX | it says agp_intel_init | 02:02 |
| LlukaX | add that? | 02:02 |
| LlukaX | or intel_agp? | 02:02 |
| LlukaX | :/ | 02:03 |
| LlukaX | err.. ok i'll just put both | 02:04 |
| LlukaX | brb | 02:04 |
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| equex | heh this kbinaryclock is cool | 02:17 |
| equex | using that instead now :p | 02:18 |
| equex | saw a real one on thinkgeek a while ago | 02:18 |
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| apokryphos | only just realised that ubuntuguide also *only* recommended people to sudo {guiapp} :| | 02:20 |
| apokryphos | Let's see how uncompromising he is ;-) | 02:21 |
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| LlukaX | wow | 03:02 |
| LlukaX | thanx | 03:02 |
| LlukaX | :) | 03:02 |
| LlukaX | that fixed like almost all the problems on my system | 03:03 |
| |nikki| | LlukaX: it worked then, great | 03:03 |
| LlukaX | yup | 03:03 |
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| LlukaX | it even made my wifi card blink | 03:03 |
| nikkia | the next step is getting the right video driver, and probably, using its AGP port driver | 03:03 |
| LlukaX | which means its close to working | 03:03 |
| LlukaX | well im not so concerned with that just yet | 03:03 |
| LlukaX | i wanna geton the net first | 03:03 |
| nikkia | hopefully, you have an nvidia card, so that step is really easy :) | 03:04 |
| LlukaX | then i can figure that out | 03:04 |
| LlukaX | nope :( ati | 03:04 |
| LlukaX | but i have the drivers | 03:04 |
| necrogami | Anyone gonna watch the Brickyard 400? | 03:05 |
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| _orange | mhmhmh | 03:47 |
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| _orange | ... | 04:03 |
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| _StarScream | hi guys, how do i tell my slaptop not to use dhcp | 04:22 |
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| m3pwns | ahh..switchin to KDE made mz daz..>( | 04:31 |
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| Wizzard | hi ppl | 04:37 |
| guillaume | hi | 04:37 |
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| SudoPus | Been doing some googling to try and find the easiest solution to ripping and transcoding DVD to MPEG2 file....Unfortunately most everything I found was outdated by a couple years...anyone have Kubuntu specific programs I can install and use? | 05:16 |
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| leon | I installed a firewire card in my PC. When I try to capture using Kino it says that raw1294 module isnt installed or that /dev/raw1394 isnt rewritable. How do I find out what the problem is and how do I fix this? Thank you. | 05:30 |
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| c0rrupt_ | hi im having a problem with kubuntu.- when i login with my username, all that happens is a console pops up locked in the top left corner., | 05:37 |
| apokryphos | c0rrupt_: before logging in change your session to KDE | 05:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | ? | 05:41 |
| c0rrupt_ | how | 05:41 |
| c0rrupt_ | it normally is kde | 05:41 |
| apokryphos | in the KDM Login Screen, make sure Session is set to KDE, then login | 05:42 |
| apokryphos | it sounds like you logged into Failsafe | 05:43 |
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| c0rrupt_ | oh | 05:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | your prolly right | 05:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | -feels like an idiot, but goes and checks | 05:48 |
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| leon | cant setup my firewire card/camcorder to capture. Modules installed at bootup | 05:59 |
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| fre | someone tell me where my kernel source is | 06:03 |
| znh | hm.. what device is my usb-stick | 06:03 |
| znh | fre: usealy in /usr/src :-) | 06:04 |
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| fre | nope | 06:09 |
| fre | root@flight:/usr/src # du -hs | 06:09 |
| fre | 52K . | 06:09 |
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| paines | hi | 06:11 |
| znh | hi paines | 06:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fre have you dlownloaded it then? | 06:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *downloaded | 06:12 |
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| fre | the sources? | 06:13 |
| fre | please tell me where i look to do that | 06:14 |
| fre | where can i get them | 06:14 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | they are in your repositries, but I'm not sure if they are on or off by default. try installing "build-essentials" | 06:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | * no S on essentials | 06:15 |
| fre | ok :) | 06:15 |
| nikkia | znh, your usb-stick is likely to be /dev/sda* | 06:18 |
| fre | can't find it | 06:18 |
| fre | any tips on what to search for? | 06:18 |
| znh | nikkia: yeah, I heard it already from someone else - thanks anyway ;-) | 06:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | fre build-essential | 06:18 |
| nikkia | znh, if you have other usb-storage stuff, it gets a bit messy, i recommend learning udev rule writing for that situation :) | 06:18 |
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| znh | nikkia: ok will do | 06:19 |
| nikkia | znh: for example, on my system, udev automatically creates /dev/ipod and /dev/memory_card which point to the right /dev/sd?? file for the device :) | 06:19 |
| znh | nikkia: that's sweet! | 06:20 |
| znh | nikkia: but I have only one usb-storage, I think udev isn't really needed then | 06:20 |
| nikkia | znh, yeah, then autofs provides /media/ipod and /media/memory_card as auto-mount points, too :) | 06:20 |
| znh | k, another question - I find the default window decorations kinda boring.. where can I get some more? | 06:22 |
| nikkia | kde-look.org | 06:23 |
| znh | that's not always for debian | 06:23 |
| znh | sources can't be compiled for a precompiled kde aint it? | 06:23 |
| nikkia | as long as you have the kde dev packages installed, you should be able to compile themes, as they don't depend on kde sources, just headers/libs | 06:24 |
| znh | hmm, what package is that? | 06:24 |
| nikkia | not all themes require compiled stuff tho | 06:24 |
| apokryphos | For styles and window decorations you'll need to compile, but they're very quick and easy | 06:25 |
| fre | i can't find my kernel sources anywhere | 06:25 |
| znh | !kde-headers | 06:25 |
| ubotu | No idea, znh | 06:25 |
| znh | !kde-devel | 06:25 |
| ubotu | znh: Wish i knew | 06:25 |
| fre | fye | 06:25 |
| nikkia | znh, you should be able to install the meta-package kde-devel and get all the headers | 06:25 |
| apokryphos | znh: sudo apt-get install kde-devel | 06:25 |
| znh | thank you apokryphos | 06:25 |
| fre | i run the latest version with a 686 kernel | 06:25 |
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| apokryphos | nikkia: woo! I come in second and still get the thankyou :P | 06:26 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: *grumble* | 06:26 |
| fre | /usr/include/linux/kernel.h, ain't that good enough? | 06:26 |
| fre | nope apparently not | 06:26 |
| nikkia | fre, what do you need kernel sources for? | 06:27 |
| fre | compile ndiswrapper 1.2 | 06:27 |
| nikkia | if all you're doing is building modules, you need linux-headers, not the sources | 06:27 |
| apokryphos | fre: did you sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 or whatever | 06:27 |
| fre | i have no idea | 06:27 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: kernel sources are overkill for building modules | 06:27 |
| fre | used the Kupdate | 06:27 |
| nikkia | !linux-headers | 06:28 |
| fre | an't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build; | 06:28 |
| fre | give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make | 06:28 |
| ubotu | nikkia: I give up, what is it? | 06:28 |
| apokryphos | oh, ndiswrapper | 06:28 |
| fre | should i get the linux-headers? | 06:28 |
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| apokryphos | fre: yes, but the respective one for your CPU | 06:28 |
| nikkia | ah, there it is, i thought there was a meta-package for it | 06:28 |
| fre | sure | 06:28 |
| fre | should i remove 386? | 06:28 |
| nikkia | fre, yes | 06:28 |
| fre | kernel? | 06:28 |
| nikkia | fre, up to you, i usually keep it around as a failsafe | 06:28 |
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| fre | :) | 06:29 |
| nikkia | if you b0rk the modules dir for 686, the 386 modules are 'seperate' so they should still boot | 06:29 |
| fre | thanks :) | 06:29 |
| fre | yeah | 06:29 |
| nikkia | (* except where you've blacklisted stuff with hotplug, etc) | 06:29 |
| fre | worked :)) | 06:32 |
| nikkia | urgh | 06:33 |
| nikkia | just spilt coffee all over myself and the keyboard | 06:33 |
| apokryphos | :| | 06:33 |
| apokryphos | coffee is hot too :|. Sticky keyboards suck. :( | 06:35 |
| znh | ok another question, I made my panel 70%, and aligned it to the left - I'd like to put my XMMS at the right near that panel.. but I can't? | 06:35 |
| apokryphos | znh: (i) you're using xmms? :| (ii) the application launcher, this is? | 06:36 |
| apokryphos | Just drag it | 06:36 |
| apokryphos | or, if you can't properly; Ctrl + drag | 06:36 |
| znh | apokryphos: no I mean the program it self | 06:36 |
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| apokryphos | you want a shortcut on the panel? | 06:36 |
| znh | apokryphos: nope, I want to put it near the panel, not on the panel | 06:36 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: the way i read it, he wants : [panel ................ ] [xmms] | 06:37 |
| apokryphos | ahh | 06:37 |
| === apokryphos tests | ||
| znh | nikkia: that's the right way to read it | 06:37 |
| nikkia | i don't think you can do that | 06:37 |
| znh | nikkia: aww :( | 06:37 |
| nikkia | i think the KDE panels auto-move apps out of the way, even if the panel isn't set to 100% width | 06:37 |
| apokryphos | works fine here | 06:38 |
| znh | apokryphos: :-/ how? | 06:38 |
| znh | it's like there is some invisible border | 06:38 |
| apokryphos | just dragged it... do you have "align to grid" on? | 06:39 |
| znh | where can I see that? | 06:39 |
| apokryphos | Right-click -> Icons | 06:39 |
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| znh | apokryphos: right click on what :$ | 06:40 |
| apokryphos | desktop :) | 06:40 |
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| znh | I don't have a 'Icons' | 06:40 |
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| apokryphos | d'oh | 06:40 |
| apokryphos | erm, are you sure? | 06:40 |
| apokryphos | right-clicking on your desktop, plain background window | 06:40 |
| znh | I disabled desktop icons | 06:41 |
| apokryphos | s/background window/background | 06:41 |
| apokryphos | ? | 06:41 |
| znh | ok I enabled them, I have Icons now | 06:41 |
| znh | I have have Aligned to grid off | 06:42 |
| apokryphos | didn't know you could disable desktop icons, whatever that means :|. Where is the option for that? | 06:42 |
| znh | Kcontrol->Desktop->Behavior | 06:42 |
| apokryphos | and, surely by disabling desktop icons that would mean...... you have no icons on the desktop. Yet you had xmms? | 06:43 |
| nikkia | i need to sort out my desktop | 06:43 |
| nikkia | i have about 400 .jpg files in my desktop :/ | 06:43 |
| apokryphos | I have...... none :P | 06:43 |
| znh | nikkia: start making a porn directory :P | 06:43 |
| znh | apokryphos: I have xmms yes? | 06:43 |
| nikkia | znh, um, an ok idea, but i don't think i'd call cd labels 'porn' | 06:43 |
| znh | porn is a user defined word :-P | 06:43 |
| znh | w/e | 06:44 |
| apokryphos | znh: (i) you should really not be using xmms, but (ii) if displaying icons on the desktop is *disabled*, how did you have it there? | 06:44 |
| znh | apokryphos: I don't want to move a xmms icon, xmms it self! | 06:44 |
| apokryphos | ohhh | 06:44 |
| znh | ;-) | 06:44 |
| znh | but what would you suggest to use instead of XMMS? | 06:45 |
| apokryphos | amaroK, of course | 06:45 |
| znh | amarok crashes on start :-/ (it did work for a while -_-') | 06:45 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: is that what you meant earlier, too? Not the icon | 06:45 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: actually, noatun is a better replacement candidate for xmms | 06:45 |
| apokryphos | heh, I've been lost indeed :P | 06:45 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: yes | 06:45 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: surely not | 06:45 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: if you're replacing xmms' functionality, yes | 06:46 |
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| nikkia | amarok is a great itunes replacement, but itunes != winamp/xmms/etc | 06:46 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: the average person has xmms to play mp3 files :) | 06:46 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: different tools, slightly different jobs :) | 06:46 |
| apokryphos | Though, I know zero people who use noatun for mp3s, other than those who claim so on the website. | 06:46 |
| nikkia | i have been, recently | 06:47 |
| nikkia | not with mp3s, tho, but doing the same job as i would with xmms/bmp | 06:47 |
| znh | I am off for dinner | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: what like? | 06:47 |
| nikkia | (since i discovered that a fully pimped out kdelibs can handle *lots* of audio formats :) | 06:47 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: flac, aac, ape | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | heh | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: your average user (xmms user, even) does not know what they are | 06:48 |
| apokryphos | you'd really recommend they use noatun over amarok? :S | 06:48 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: my puzzle remains..... | 06:48 |
| twidget | I'm trying to rip a CD, but kAudioCreator says the Lame encoder can't be found. Am I doing something wrong? | 06:48 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: if noatun via kdelibs can get tags from, and handle, aac, why can't amarok ? | 06:48 |
| nikkia | twidget: yes, you don't have lame installed, most likely | 06:49 |
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| apokryphos | nikkia: when I see someone saying they use xmms, I see xmms = application to play mp3s. So, saying "what's better", I generally always say amarok | 06:49 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: I have no idea, I've never tried. Can it not? | 06:49 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: no, amarok can't handle aac natively at all | 06:49 |
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| nikkia | apokryphos: if you use the gstreamer output, it can play them, but not handle them in the collection | 06:50 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: as i said, noatun can get tags and everything via kdelibs, so why isn't amarok using kdelibs for MM file access? | 06:50 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: you're asking the wrong person :) | 06:50 |
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| apokryphos | a good question to ask them, for sure. | 06:51 |
| apokryphos | national insurance hyperdrive, of course. | 06:51 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i consider amarok development dead, tbh | 06:51 |
| twidget | nikkia: yep. I thought it was, though. | 06:51 |
| nikkia | sure, it plods on a little, but noone ever seems to do anything to the millions of reported issues/bugs/feature-requests | 06:51 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: instead, they concentrate on utterly important things like replacing the splash screen, again :P | 06:52 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: if anyone asked me a single app as an example of "active devs", amarok comes first to mind. So, suffice it tosay, I have no idea what you're talking about :P | 06:52 |
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| twidget | Is there a WinAmp for Linux? ;) | 06:52 |
| twidget | LinuxAmp? | 06:52 |
| buz | amarok? xmms? juk? noatun? | 06:53 |
| Kaiser_sleep1 | xmms or beep media player | 06:53 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: really? nothing much seems to have changed in 1.3beta since 1.2beta, to me | 06:53 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: that's unfair, they've done *so* much more than that. No other player has half the features it has, really. Maybe juk :P | 06:53 |
| twidget | I was commenting on the conversation | 06:53 |
| buz | the cover fetching feature rocks | 06:53 |
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| twidget | I'm using amarok ATM, but may change | 06:53 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: in 1.3b3 alone: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/57/66/ | 06:53 |
| nikkia | buz, hardly innovative :P | 06:53 |
| buz | mhh but it works ;) | 06:53 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: I've been using it since 1.0, so perhaps that's why. Still. I see new features all the time. | 06:54 |
| fre | fye | 06:54 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: most of that list is eye-candy :P | 06:55 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: point remains, evidently it's not development dead. 1.2 amaroK only had 3 backends | 06:56 |
| apokryphos | it has 6 or something now | 06:56 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i didn't say it was development dead, i said i consider it development dead | 06:56 |
| twidget | Is there something akin to Quicken in Lunix? | 06:56 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: because they only add new features? :| | 06:56 |
| fre | fye | 06:56 |
| twidget | Linux, rather | 06:56 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: based on the premise that there are playback issues that have been hanging around since 1.1 | 06:56 |
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| apokryphos | nikkia: seems like a seriously big leap | 06:57 |
| apokryphos | playback issue since 1.1 -> dev dead | 06:57 |
| apokryphos | I do wonder how they get so much development done, though, really. They're in the channel 24-7 | 06:58 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: call me old fashioned, but i consider 'playback' the principle core of a media player, not eye candy | 06:58 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: and yes, that means i do find the new BMP fork amusing | 06:59 |
| apokryphos | I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, since I can't see one lingering issue as being indicative of dev deadness | 07:00 |
| apokryphos | they're quite alive, I assure you -- you can talk to them :D | 07:00 |
| nikkia | not one, several | 07:00 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: I have no idea about the issues; perhaps they have reasons. Why not ask them? :) | 07:00 |
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| apokryphos | nikkia: ar well, I'm off for a nap before work. See you later. :) | 07:05 |
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| znh | hmm.. are there variants for 'kicker' ? | 07:25 |
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| znh | brb switching to faster freenode server | 07:29 |
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| znh | hehe from 130ms lag to 20ms | 07:30 |
| twidget | How would I install this? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4708&package_id=4715&release_id=345726 | 07:35 |
| incinerator | oh please, that's in universe | 07:38 |
| twidget | sorry, I'm new to Linux in general and kubuntu in particular | 07:38 |
| incinerator | just a sec | 07:39 |
| incinerator | woot? newbs? in irc? | 07:39 |
| incinerator | ;-) | 07:39 |
| twidget | yeah, I'll admit it | 07:39 |
| dutch | ya gotta start some place, just like the rest of the ppl in this channel :) | 07:39 |
| twidget | yep, that's my attitude | 07:40 |
| twidget | I'm a regular in #wordpress, and we try not to trash newbs too bad | 07:40 |
| incinerator | edit /etc/apt/sources.list | 07:40 |
| dutch | I've been banging my head on this stuff for 2 years now, and still don't know my ass from a hole in the ground... | 07:40 |
| incinerator | e.g. kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 07:41 |
| twidget | I've got the extra repositories | 07:41 |
| twidget | what's in under? | 07:41 |
| twidget | it | 07:41 |
| incinerator | then just run kynaptic or sudo apt-get install kmymoney2 | 07:41 |
| twidget | okay | 07:41 |
| incinerator | btw, kynaptic is in the "System" section of the kde menu | 07:42 |
| twidget | there it goes | 07:42 |
| twidget | thanks | 07:42 |
| incinerator | don't use kpackage! | 07:42 |
| incinerator | np | 07:42 |
| twidget | I'm getting the hang of knaptic | 07:42 |
| incinerator | btw, always worth to look at the wiki and kudos in particular | 07:42 |
| incinerator | it sucks | 07:42 |
| incinerator | i'd rather use apt-get directly | 07:42 |
| incinerator | but well, me's a long time debian user | 07:43 |
| twidget | I feel a Sunday afternoon nap about to overtake me | 07:43 |
| incinerator | btw, http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php | 07:44 |
| incinerator | http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf.html | 07:45 |
| incinerator | bookmarke these two pages at once ;-) | 07:45 |
| twidget | Doing so | 07:45 |
| twidget | http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/amd64.html#amd64 w00t! | 07:46 |
| twidget | That's what I've been looking for! | 07:46 |
| twidget | Only one entry :( | 07:46 |
| OculusAquilae | :-) | 07:47 |
| incinerator | well, if it's not there you should try the unofficial ubuntu faq or the wiki | 07:47 |
| incinerator | quite much of the stuff applies to kubuntu, as well | 07:47 |
| twidget | Anything about not being able to access the hardware clock or some nonsense? | 07:48 |
| twidget | Well, between nodding off and both my cats acting sleepy, apparently a Sunday afternoon nap is a must, bbl | 07:50 |
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| Edddie | I'm having a problem with changing date/time, it crashes after I enter my password | 08:09 |
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| lluka | YAY! | 08:20 |
| lluka | :D:D:D:D:D | 08:20 |
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| lluka | hey is there somtehign similar to mandrakes urpmi | 08:41 |
| lluka | for kubuntu? | 08:41 |
| lluka | hello? :/ | 08:42 |
| lluka | how do i install rpm | 08:45 |
| lluka | with kubuntu | 08:45 |
| lluka | >_< | 08:45 |
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| bbailey | !alien | 08:46 |
| ubotu | alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/ | 08:46 |
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| lluka | :/ | 08:47 |
| lluka | is there anything that can install dependencies | 08:47 |
| lluka | through the net | 08:47 |
| lluka | like mandrake has? | 08:47 |
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| buz | apt-get build-dep someapp? | 08:52 |
| buz | mhh ah no | 08:52 |
| buz | overkill for rpms | 08:52 |
| lluka | im trying to get rosegarden4 installed | 08:52 |
| lluka | :/ | 08:52 |
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| buz | oh bloody hell | 08:55 |
| buz | i accidentally installed the czech version of oo2 | 08:55 |
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| lluka | hey how do i switch sound cards in alsamixer? | 08:56 |
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| jharrison | howdy | 09:01 |
| jharrison | does kubuntu have system tools like in the normal ubuntu? | 09:01 |
| buz | if they arent gnome specific, yes | 09:01 |
| jharrison | like the ubuntu update manager? | 09:01 |
| buz | never heard of that one | 09:02 |
| buz | we have kynaptic and apt-get ;) | 09:02 |
| jharrison | so to update the system use kynaptic? | 09:02 |
| buz | yes | 09:02 |
| jharrison | also I have the unable to access /dev/dsp error upon logging into kde | 09:02 |
| buz | mhh no idea about that | 09:02 |
| lluka | i have 2 sound cards | 09:04 |
| lluka | and i only want to use 1 | 09:04 |
| lluka | :/ | 09:04 |
| lluka | the onboard doesnt work | 09:04 |
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| lluka | :/ | 09:04 |
| jharrison | I have an audigy 2 | 09:05 |
| jharrison | the user is a part of the audio group | 09:05 |
| jharrison | not sure why there are errors about unable to access /dev/dsp | 09:06 |
| jharrison | sound server fails and is using null | 09:06 |
| jharrison | maybe updates will fix it | 09:06 |
| lluka | that happens to me when i try to switch cards | 09:07 |
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| _mark | hello anyone... I need help installing a fuji (usb) kamera). none of the supplied drivers "fits" my camera. (FujiFinePix 1400Zoom).One website saysI need to alter the kernel sources. How is this down under kubuntu? | 09:34 |
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| _mark | Testing to see if I am "really" connected.... Is anybody out there ???? | 09:42 |
| Jeevan | no | 09:42 |
| _mark | Thanks! | 09:42 |
| Jeevan | you're the only one left on this planet | 09:42 |
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| _mark | Ha Ha.... | 09:43 |
| _mark | Ok. I'mwondering if anyone can help me get a camera installed? | 09:44 |
| Jeevan | hmm, the package tree already has KDE 4.x in there? | 09:45 |
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| brk3 | could anyone tell me what they think of this laptop..? | 09:53 |
| brk3 | http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=EC356UA%23ABA&tab=overview&storeName=&landing=&category=&subcat1=&catLevel=#defaultAnchor | 09:53 |
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| Jeevan | looks to be fine brk3 | 09:56 |
| Jeevan | i'd check if that wireless card is supported in linux though | 09:56 |
| brk3 | Jeevan: thanks. thats what im trying to check now | 09:57 |
| brk3 | laptop seem fairly good specs for that price though ya? | 09:57 |
| Jeevan | also, if they have nvidia graphics card option, i'd go with that | 09:57 |
| Jeevan | yeah price seems right | 09:57 |
| brk3 | you have a laptop yourself? | 09:58 |
| Jeevan | a powerbook yes | 09:58 |
| brk3 | work well with kubuntu? | 09:58 |
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| Jeevan | haven't tried | 09:59 |
| Jeevan | i use ubuntu on my desktop | 09:59 |
| Jeevan | which i'm on right now and which i use the most | 09:59 |
| Jeevan | the powerbook has staye on os x | 10:00 |
| brk3 | ah | 10:00 |
| Jeevan | from what i hear the wireless card doesn't work with ubuntu on the powerbook | 10:00 |
| brk3 | forgot | 10:00 |
| _mark | Does anyoneknow how to add a new device under /dev ? don'thave "makedev" for some reason... | 10:00 |
| brk3 | i really want wlan to work | 10:00 |
| Jeevan | they're reverse engineering the card and making progress though | 10:00 |
| brk3 | would be so cook | 10:00 |
| Jeevan | yep | 10:00 |
| brk3 | *cool | 10:00 |
| Jeevan | wireless is very important on a laptop :) | 10:00 |
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| brk3 | why isnt there more linux supprot then | 10:01 |
| brk3 | i would've thought it would be top priority | 10:01 |
| PieD | brk3: linux supports wireless without any problem | 10:01 |
| Jeevan | because the vendors don't release the drivers | 10:01 |
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| PieD | if you have the drivers | 10:01 |
| Jeevan | so linux devs have to reverse engineer those things basically | 10:01 |
| brk3 | Jeevan: ya but thats the same for alot of stuff | 10:02 |
| Jeevan | which is not an easy task | 10:02 |
| brk3 | such a pity | 10:02 |
| PieD | brk3: not really | 10:02 |
| Jeevan | 'same for a lot of stuff'? | 10:02 |
| brk3 | well | 10:02 |
| brk3 | was the same | 10:02 |
| Jeevan | i've found linux to have excellent support for the hardware i purchase | 10:02 |
| PieD | wireless cards are more problematic : a lot of chipsets, no standard way of accessing features... | 10:02 |
| brk3 | but devs got it sorted | 10:02 |
| Jeevan | the only thing I've had a problem with is wireless | 10:02 |
| brk3 | so whats the deal with this ndiswrapper thing | 10:03 |
| brk3 | is it good? | 10:03 |
| Jeevan | it works | 10:03 |
| PieD | Jeevan: not for me, I've got 1 peripheral not working out of the box with ubuntu : my wireless card | 10:03 |
| PieD | the driver isn't provided with ubuntu | 10:03 |
| PieD | ndiswrapper is dangerous | 10:03 |
| brk3 | why | 10:03 |
| Jeevan | PieD: i said "the only thing I've had a problem with is wireless" ;) | 10:03 |
| brk3 | i keep hearing it is | 10:03 |
| brk3 | but not why | 10:03 |
| Jeevan | how is it dangerous? | 10:03 |
| Jeevan | from what i've heard it works fine | 10:03 |
| Jeevan | not the ideal solution of course | 10:04 |
| Jeevan | but better thannothing | 10:04 |
| PieD | 1- You launch unknown drivers | 10:04 |
| PieD | 2- Only available on x86 | 10:04 |
| PieD | 3- Hardware makers are going to say : "our wireless card works on linux", while it's using ndiswrapper | 10:05 |
| PieD | 4- It's slow | 10:05 |
| Jeevan | 1) If you're calling drivers provided by the vendors, unknown, then i'm not sure how much more known you can get | 10:05 |
| Jeevan | 2) True but not a problem for many | 10:05 |
| Jeevan | especially considering apple is moving to x86 too now ;) | 10:06 |
| Jeevan | 3) No they won't officially say that because that brings support responsibilities | 10:06 |
| PieD | Jeevan: and AMD64 ? | 10:06 |
| Jeevan | 4) Haven't tried it myself but haven't heard complaints in that area | 10:06 |
| PieD | it can't be fast | 10:07 |
| PieD | it's emulation | 10:07 |
| Jeevan | not really | 10:07 |
| brk3 | later dudes | 10:07 |
| Jeevan | it's a wrapper | 10:07 |
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| Jeevan | not emulation | 10:07 |
| PieD | emulation will never be able to do better than native | 10:07 |
| Jeevan | there is a significant difference | 10:07 |
| PieD | it will be slower | 10:07 |
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| PieD | you have to translate the driver calls | 10:07 |
| Jeevan | slower than not using a wrapper of couse but it's far from emulation | 10:07 |
| PieD | you also have to implement the stupid ntkernel dcalls | 10:07 |
| nocloud | if i have KDE 3.4, is it worth my while to upgrade to 3.4.2? | 10:09 |
| PieD | yes | 10:09 |
| PieD | especially if you use akregator, konqueror and kpdf | 10:10 |
| nocloud | can you tell me how to upgrade? | 10:10 |
| PieD | http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php | 10:10 |
| Jeevan | always good to upgrade to the minor point releases nocloud | 10:10 |
| Jeevan | usually bugfixes and performance improvements | 10:11 |
| PieD | (big performance improvements on akregator...) | 10:11 |
| Jeevan | PieD: are you seeing kde 4 in your apt tree? | 10:11 |
| nocloud | okay, so i need to add one line to my sources.list file right? | 10:11 |
| Poromies | hoi, guys and galls.. anyone have any idea why i get only errors when i add those kde 342 repos to my sources? .. or, i get error saying that my arch (amd64) is not supported? | 10:12 |
| PieD | Jeevan: who were enough silly to create KDE4 packages yet ??? | 10:12 |
| PieD | nocloud: yes | 10:12 |
| Jeevan | no idea but i'm seeing it in my apt tree PieD | 10:12 |
| PieD | and then you start upgrade | 10:12 |
| Jeevan | unless i'm reading it wrong | 10:12 |
| PieD | ho, kdelibs4 ? | 10:12 |
| Jeevan | 'kdelibs4' | 10:12 |
| PieD | that's a stupid debian package name | 10:12 |
| Jeevan | yeah | 10:12 |
| nocloud | what do i do after i have added that line? can i find the package through kynaptic? | 10:12 |
| PieD | I really don't no why they call it that way | 10:12 |
| Jeevan | PieD: what do you mean? | 10:13 |
| Jeevan | is that just 3.4.2? | 10:13 |
| PieD | it's kdelibs 3.4.2 | 10:13 |
| Jeevan | lol | 10:13 |
| PieD | they do that since I discovered debian, and probably before | 10:13 |
| Jeevan | i came from gentoo so I figured it's version 4 | 10:13 |
| PieD | (so KDE 3.2.2...) | 10:13 |
| PieD | nocloud: I won't help you with kynaptic, too hard to explain (I'm not used to it)) | 10:13 |
| PieD | here are the command lines : | 10:13 |
| PieD | sudo apt-get update | 10:13 |
| PieD | sudo apt-get upgrade | 10:14 |
| Jeevan | (gentoo has kde 4.x in the portage tree masked) | 10:14 |
| nocloud | can somebody tell me how to become root user to i can edit the sources file? | 10:15 |
| Jeevan | PieD: so in debian, the number in the package names themselves don't matter? | 10:15 |
| Jeevan | sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list nocloud | 10:15 |
| PieD | Jeevan: exactly | 10:15 |
| Jeevan | good to know, that could have led to more confusion down the line thanks | 10:15 |
| nocloud | just out of curiosity, what does vim mean/do? | 10:16 |
| Jeevan | gentoo is the opposite | 10:16 |
| PieD | vim is a text editor | 10:16 |
| nocloud | ah, gotcha...so, i could type kate instead of vim and it would still work? | 10:16 |
| Jeevan | substitute vim with 'nano' if you haven't used it nocloud | 10:16 |
| Jeevan | yeah | 10:16 |
| nocloud | so, just for final clarification, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list works | 10:17 |
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| Jeevan | it should yes nocloud | 10:17 |
| nocloud | allright, off to try it out, thanks guys | 10:18 |
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| Jeevan | i wonder why he needs to disconnect to do a apt-get upgrade | 10:20 |
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| nocloud | i tried using sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and still don't have access to write to sources.list | 10:26 |
| nocloud | does anybody know of anything else i can do so i can write to that file? | 10:26 |
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| Pierre-Yves | kdesudo kwrite ? | 10:27 |
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| linescanner | any one using Kontact to connect to a Kolab 2 server ? | 10:29 |
| nocloud | i used the command "sudo su - " to become root | 10:30 |
| nocloud | now, i am having trouble opening the sources.list file | 10:30 |
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| arnaud | Bonsoir | 10:34 |
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| arnaud | hello | 10:46 |
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| arnaud | Christophe971> t'es Point--Pitre? | 10:48 |
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| dragec | Hi all | 10:52 |
| dragec | I have big problems with my kubuntu | 10:53 |
| dragec | In fact, with apt-get | 10:53 |
| dragec | (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing mplayer-386 (--remove): | 10:53 |
| dragec | files list file for package `memtest86+' is missing final newline | 10:53 |
| dragec | (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing mplayer-386 (--remove): | 10:53 |
| dragec | files list file for package `memtest86+' is missing final newline | 10:53 |
| dragec | Processing was halted because there were too many errors. | 10:54 |
| dragec | And I can't do anything | 10:54 |
| crimsun | erm, what did you do to /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? | 10:54 |
| dragec | Already tried to upgrade all packages | 10:54 |
| dragec | Dunno | 10:55 |
| dragec | A lot of files in there | 10:55 |
| dragec | What could I've done? | 10:55 |
| dragec | Already tried to upgrade all packages, apt downloads them, but cannot install them because of upper error. | 10:55 |
| dragec | Also tried to reinstall memtest86+ package, but same thing happens | 10:56 |
| dragec | So, what now? | 10:56 |
| dragec | I can't remove, install, or upgrade anything | 10:57 |
| uniq | try do add a final new line to /var/lib/dpkg/info/memtest86+.list | 10:57 |
| dragec | Always above error appears | 10:57 |
| dragec | (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing mplayer-386 (--remove): | 10:58 |
| dragec | files list file for package `memtest86+' contains empty filename | 10:58 |
| dragec | Ok, can someone DCC memtest86+.list file to me? | 10:59 |
| uniq | removbe the final blank line, and save. | 10:59 |
| dragec | files list file for package `libelfg0' is missing final newline | 11:00 |
| dragec | Shit | 11:00 |
| dragec | So what, every file misses final newline?? | 11:00 |
| uniq | heh.. try to do the same with that then.. i do not have that problem,.. then again i'm on a stable hoary system right now. | 11:01 |
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| dragec | (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing mplayer-386 (--remove): | 11:01 |
| dragec | files list file for package `linux-386' is missing final newline | 11:01 |
| dragec | Arrrghhhhhhhh | 11:01 |
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| _jd | how do I right click on a mac? | 11:02 |
| |rockinnerd| | _jd, hold down button | 11:02 |
| uniq | f12 | 11:02 |
| |rockinnerd| | oops, thats in OS X | 11:02 |
| _jd | i mean in kubuntu | 11:03 |
| dragec | After fixing /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-386.list, this error appears | 11:03 |
| dragec | (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing mplayer-386 (--remove): | 11:03 |
| dragec | files list file for package `libreadline4' is missing final newline | 11:03 |
| dragec | Holy crap | 11:03 |
| dragec | I'll have to fix all files one by one? | 11:03 |
| |rockinnerd| | Linux Journal Is Currently Unavailable Due to a Denial of Service (DoS) Attack | 11:03 |
| |rockinnerd| | Sorry for any inconvenience. | 11:03 |
| |rockinnerd| | :( | 11:03 |
| uniq | f12. if your /etc/sysclt.conf contains the lines needed.. i'm not on a mac now, but it's there by default. | 11:04 |
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| dragec | So , what dou you people suggest me to do now? | 11:04 |
| _jd | that worked, thanks uniq | 11:04 |
| dragec | Fix files one by one? | 11:04 |
| _mark | Is anyone on here knowledgable in creating new devices using MAKEDEV ? | 11:05 |
| dragec | I'll never fix all those files | 11:05 |
| |rockinnerd| | _mark, google what /dev inode you need to find out the #s you need to specify | 11:05 |
| |rockinnerd| | but i think you can just cd /etc; sudo ./MAKDEV inode | 11:06 |
| |rockinnerd| | replace inode with the /dev device u need | 11:06 |
| _mark | jrockinnerd, not sure what you mean... | 11:06 |
| |rockinnerd| | look on TLDP.org for inode | 11:06 |
| |rockinnerd| | Hell hath frozen over: Mac has made a 2 button mouse | 11:07 |
| _mark | OK. I did this... but it puts all the devices I create into .dev instead of /dev | 11:07 |
| |rockinnerd| | did u cd to /dev | 11:08 |
| _mark | yes. | 11:08 |
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| |rockinnerd| | err.. | 11:10 |
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| |rockinnerd| | cp it from ur .dev folder to /dev | 11:11 |
| _mark | jrockinnerd, I did this too. What I am trying to do is to get a digital camera recognized. it should be recognized when I plug it up usb - but it doesn't. another site said to mount it to /dev/sda1, so I am trying to make /dev/sda1. | 11:13 |
| uniq | _mark: alt+f2 '#MAKEDEV' <enter> find your device section.. and run 'MAKEDEV section' where section can be ie. irda.. | 11:14 |
| uniq | you don't need to make /dev/sda1. | 11:14 |
| _mark | Ok. I'll try it... | 11:14 |
| uniq | if it's recognized it'll be automagically created by udev+hotplug. | 11:15 |
| uniq | if it's not it's not recognized. | 11:15 |
| uniq | take a look at the output of 'dmesg' in konsole.. to see what happens when it's inserted. | 11:15 |
| uniq | inserted/plugged in | 11:16 |
| _mark | uniq, thanks. I'll try that now. by the way -- I upgraded to 3.4.2 and now "alt+F2" doesn't work anymore! | 11:16 |
| _mark | Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... | 11:18 |
| _mark | usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage | 11:18 |
| _mark | USB Mass Storage support registered. | 11:18 |
| _mark | uniq, here is what dmesg outputs: | 11:18 |
| uniq | hum.. can't help you there.. haven't had the time to upgrade myself yet.. girlfriend and work isn't compatible with community work and keeping updated.. :/ | 11:18 |
| _mark | Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... | 11:18 |
| _mark | usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage | 11:18 |
| _mark | USB Mass Storage support registered. | 11:18 |
| uniq | no syncing.. hmm.. | 11:19 |
| uniq | try to modprobe sd | 11:20 |
| uniq | or something.. i''ll check the module name for yoiu.. hang on. | 11:20 |
| _mark | FATAL: Module sd not found. | 11:20 |
| uniq | sd_mod | 11:20 |
| _mark | uniq, it didn't output anything, but didn'tgive error message either... | 11:21 |
| uniq | that's good. | 11:21 |
| uniq | now look at 'dmesg' again. | 11:22 |
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| _mark | nope. same output. | 11:23 |
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| uniq | ok.. then i don't know.. yoiu could check /proc/patritions just to make sure it's not listed there.. | 11:24 |
| uniq | but, i'll have to go now.. sorry i couldn't help you more.. work in 6 hours.. gnite and good luck with your camera. | 11:25 |
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| uniq | btw. you could try to use kamera with PTP mode.. doesn't need it to be recognizerd by usb-storage.. | 11:25 |
| uniq | or just ru gphoto2 from the commandline 'gphoto2 -P' to download all pictures to the current directory. (might need to be run with sudo).. | 11:26 |
| uniq | and it also might need to be installed first. | 11:26 |
| uniq | nite. | 11:27 |
| _mark | thanks for the help. | 11:27 |
| hater2win | alright | 11:30 |
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| hater2win | so get this | 11:30 |
| hater2win | i downloaded firefox from getfirefox.com | 11:31 |
| hater2win | and i install it to /opt/firefox | 11:31 |
| hater2win | 2 questions | 11:31 |
| hater2win | 1. can i make it show up in the apps manu... and how? | 11:31 |
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| hater2win | 2. If I can't how do I uninstall it and make the repository one show up in the meny | 11:31 |
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| _silvertear | hater2win: i think i would be better if you did sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox | 11:33 |
| hater2win | bah i tried that, but nothing... thats why i need to know how to uninstall =/ | 11:33 |
| _silvertear | kynaptic package manager will take care of adding the shortcuts and stuff | 11:33 |
| _silvertear | did you try kde menu editor? i never used it myself but i'm pretty sure it can do it | 11:34 |
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| dull4o4 | Hello | 11:35 |
| dull4o4 | Anyone know how to disable quick user change in kde? | 11:35 |
| dull4o4 | ..and get the button "change user" while screen is locked?? | 11:35 |
| EasterSunshine | i don't know about unistalling the one from getfirefox.com, read up on how do it from the website maybe | 11:35 |
| _mark | dull404, not sure what that is? | 11:35 |
| dull4o4 | press kde-button. the thing just above lock screen (change user) | 11:36 |
| dull4o4 | i dont want it | 11:36 |
| dull4o4 | there is an option for it somewhere cant remember though | 11:38 |
| dull4o4 | anyone know? | 11:42 |
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