=== nadolph [~nathan@d137-186-223-1.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === McScruff [~McScruff@cpc1-folk1-3-0-cust41.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.112] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] lo i mounted an iso image, how do i unmount it? === equex [~skldhxr@128.39.125.52] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] hmm [12:13] Riddell: awake ? === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2DA2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === gdh [foobar@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:18] McScruff: umount === P3L|C4N0 [~gcamposm@200.121.80.193] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos [~dw@host-84-9-109-233.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === sproingie [foobar@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #Kubuntu === _joe [~joe@cpe-24-195-168-45.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] <_joe> Yo === _joe is now known as c0rrupt_ [12:36] finally got this to w0rk === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.44] has joined #kubuntu === zorba64 [~michael31@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] hi i just installed kubuntu and my video card runs on the intel 845 chipset [12:55] xfree86 i810 supports that chipset but im not sure how to get it working [12:56] is there an easy way? === english [~english@81-223-189-178.itzling.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] it should 'just work' ... did you end up with 640x480 display? [12:58] yea [12:59] I had that, too - it's a known bug, I think... [12:59] the fix is simple :) [12:59] i need it on 1024x768 [12:59] heh let me know! [12:59] "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" [12:59] find 'Section "Monitor"' [12:59] and add this one line [12:59] HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 [01:00] save (ctrl-x) and restart X [01:00] =-O [01:00] tytytytyty [01:00] did it work? :) [01:00] dunno yet.. [01:00] im making changes [01:01] it's something to do with the i810 driver not reading the monitor DDC data properly on 845 [01:01] ok ill let you know if it worked === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["--out"] [01:02] ah hangon, I have an 865... [01:02] ha, fingers crossed, then :) === c0rrupt_ [~joe@cpe-24-195-168-45.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] didnt compile.. [01:11] had to remove the line [01:11] ill try one more time [01:11] HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 [01:11] right? [01:12] doesnt have to have quotes..? [01:13] compile? [01:13] didnt compile [01:13] what are you compiling? [01:13] well [01:13] it wouldnt run [01:13] at boot [01:13] i had to take out what i added [01:13] Hm, e.h. [01:13] hmm [01:14] Section "Monitor" [01:14] HorizSync 30.0 - 80.0 [01:14] no quotes? [01:14] just like that. [01:14] k i will try one more time === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === c0rrupt_ [~joe@cpe-24-195-168-45.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:19] ah [01:19] it works [01:19] =) [01:19] thanks man [01:19] no prob [01:20] having a problem with dhcpd [01:20] it works but [01:20] i have to run sudo dhclient in order to connect [01:21] c0rrupt_: check Control Centre -> Internet + Network -> Network Settings [01:21] is eth0 (or whatver) set to dhcp ? [01:21] prolly not [01:21] in the 'protocol' tab? [01:21] ill check [01:23] you'll be pleased to know that the 'Administrator mode' button is broken... [01:23] 0.o [01:23] you need to run 'sudo kcontrol' from a konsole [01:23] allthese are known bugs to be fixed in breezy :) [01:24] Lol [01:24] i should just login root [01:24] i already added a root account [01:24] and just hang a 'pwn me' sign round your neck =) [01:25] LOL [01:25] yea maybe your right [01:25] ;x === milksteak [~milksteak@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] running kcontrol from console failed... [01:37] couldnt not connect to x server.. [01:37] could not* [01:37] yes, you have to run "sudo kcontrol" from a non-root shell [01:38] ah [01:38] i went root then ran kcontrol [01:39] =) === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] ok i thanks again xD [01:39] time to set up wireless card [01:39] =P [01:39] erk :) [01:39] rtl8180 [01:39] is the chipset [01:39] I know nothing of them =) [01:39] i know a little [01:40] maybe my little and your nothing can get my wireless going [01:40] =P === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #Kubuntu === caeza [~caeza@200.29.52.216] has joined #kubuntu [01:46] hi [01:46] im looking for help with kdm and kubuntu-default-settings [01:48] does kubuntu come with Synaptic package manager? [01:48] Yup, kynaptic [01:48] same thing? [01:48] Uh, nope. [01:48] yes, but no, but yes :) [01:48] Right, it's just the KDE variant [01:48] It's 'Synaptic Lite' ... [01:48] Synaptic's still better though [01:48] im trying to install wine [01:49] or 'Synaptic: Fisher Price edition' [01:49] how do i add repositories [01:49] with a text-editor .... [01:49] oh.. [01:49] yup, that's how advanced it is. [01:49] hmm [01:49] Lol [01:49] im begging to wish i had synaptic [01:49] there are plenty pre-defined -you just need to remove the # comments === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #Kubuntu [01:49] you can - just install it- it'll drag in the needed GTK dependencies. [01:50] Fisher PRice edition, LOL!! [01:50] I think I'd best let the big boys handle this :) [01:50] caeza: ;) I'm surprised Kynaptic doesn't play a series of electronic tunes :) [01:50] im trying to cutomize KDM but i cant... it still looking with that ugly kubuntu wallpaper [01:51] <_pax> gdh: I gotta ask you a favor, you still have the original /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ? === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] lol... next Vtech kids computer comes with kynaptic too [01:51] (excuse my english, i speak spanish) [01:51] _pax: er, I use Debian proper for servers :) [01:51] wines installing ;) [01:52] <_pax> gdh: samething [01:52] c0rrupt_: you'll want 'winetools', too - it install IE6 + basic Windows DLLs for you :) === _pax is now known as pax [01:52] im trying to get vent to run [01:52] does it work on wine? [01:52] _pax: not quite :) Debian releases last for 3 years+ :) [01:52] v. important in a production server. [01:53] c0rrupt_: never heard of 'vent' [01:53] ventrilo [01:53] for mic communication [01:53] still rings no bells. [01:53] ha :) [01:53] mostly for gamers [01:53] my friend has a ventrilo server [01:53] that'll be why - something like 'TeamSpeak' ? [01:53] exactly [01:54] currently they only have a win32 version [01:54] =\ [01:54] so you can shout at your friends and scream how you're going to 'frag their ass' ? [01:54] sounds gripping :) [01:54] LOL [01:54] yea but we dont use it as much for gaming as much as just chatting [01:54] anyone have apache2 installed? [01:55] its usually hard to understand what one is saying [01:55] talking out your problems are easier [01:55] and more understood [01:55] ;) [01:55] understandable* [01:58] anybody know about the kdm/kubuntu-default-settings problem? [01:58] lmao.. turns out there is a linux version [01:58] caeza, with Breezy? [01:58] Hoary [01:59] and 2.6.12.3 kernel [02:00] and what's the issue you're experiencing? === lgsobalvarro [~lgsobalva@cable200-116-195-39.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu === nocloud [~andy@cpe-70-93-71-77.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:02] i cant customize kdm [02:02] is there a way to change the loginscreen so i don't get the default kubuntu thing? [02:02] nocloud ask for me in an understable english xD [02:02] nocloud, settings:/System/ > Login Manager [02:03] seth_k, that dousn't work in kubuntu [02:03] doesn't* [02:03] caeza, it does for me? [02:03] aso caeza cual es el problemin? [02:03] jejeje hola, que weno que hablas espaol!! [02:04] seth_k yes, the login manager conf. doesn't works on kubuntu [02:04] lgsobalvarro, que no puedo configurar mi kdm [02:04] #kubuntu-es if you're going to speak espanol ;) [02:04] caeza, do you have the kde 3.4.2 update? [02:04] yes i have [02:04] seth_k: :-p [02:04] seth_k...where is the login manager.... [02:04] but the kubuntu_default_Settings package overrides my configuration [02:05] always [02:05] yes! [02:05] same here! [02:05] yes, same arround the world, i think === seth_k wonders if he doesn't have that package installed and that's why it works for him [02:05] kdm depende on kubuntu_defualts settings [02:05] :( [02:05] i don't have any package installed either.... === lgsobalvarro [~lgsobalva@cable200-116-195-39.epm.net.co] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:06] using the kde that came with kubuntu 5.04 [02:06] 3.4.0? is full of bugs [02:06] /etc/apache2/sites-available/default [02:06] im using kde 3.4.2 [02:07] i think i have 3.4.0..... [02:07] yes [02:07] is upgrading difficult? [02:07] 5.04 was the first Kubuntu so (major) bugs are not surprising :) [02:07] Breezy in October isn't far away now ;) [02:08] is there a way to make a kdm that NOT depends on kubuntu_default_settings? [02:08] hmmm, how tough will it be to upgrade to breezy in oct? [02:09] nocloud: not tough at all - that's the whole point :) [02:09] no need to reinstall your whole system every year (a la Red Hat ) [02:09] so...what exactly will i need to do to upgrade? === _ben [~ben@ca-hemet-terayon1b-227.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] nocloud: full details will be posted at the time - but pretty much change sources.list, and apt-get dist-upgrade... [02:10] <_ben> what is the best kind of file to get for kubuntu (.deb,.rpm, etc)? [02:10] i won't lose any setting or installed apps right? === _ben is now known as Ben1842 [02:10] _ben: if you're asking that question, then probably none if the package you want isn't already in the kubuntu archive [02:11] gdh are the wine tools at the winehq site? [02:11] the 'deb' will assume you're using debian [02:11] hm.... [02:11] c0rrupt_: apt-cache show winetools [02:11] so what to do when it's not included? [02:11] Ben1842: compile from source? you could /try/ the .deb I suppose [02:11] what's the package? [02:12] it's a front end for dosbox [02:12] thought I'd try it out [02:12] I tryed compileing last night and it was a little over my head [02:12] fair enough. [02:12] I did it but I couldn't find the file [02:13] hmm [02:13] i have a windows license.. [02:13] and the guy I talked to on here said I shouldn't compile anyway [02:13] so I was wondering if there was an alternative like and RPM or something [02:13] Ben1842: Yeh, the compile will just put binaries in /usr/local/bin .. (when you do make install) [02:13] no, rpm definately won't help [02:14] ok so what is my best bet? [02:14] for an easy or simi easy install? [02:14] of programs not in the apt-get library [02:15] or is there an option lol [02:15] you could try the .deb they supply.. or compile from source :) === ralph1 [~ralph1@66-214-31-61.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] I thought compile = bad lol [02:16] .. not much choice :) [02:16] does kubuntu need a swap? [02:16] nothing in usr/local/bin from what I compiled last night lol [02:16] i think i will compile kde from the source [02:16] .. or just learn how to use dosbox from the commandline [02:16] ? [02:16] wothout kubuntu's packeages and settings [02:16] caeza: you're in the wrong channel ;) try #gentoo :) [02:17] yeah I know I can use it from command but typeing gets old after a while [02:17] #gentoo? im not using gentoo :S === developer [~developer@pool-68-238-186-34.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] im using Ubuntu [02:19] ... yes I know :) [02:19] recompiling the whole of kde from source is definately outside the (k)ubuntu philosophy. === _developer [~developer@pool-68-238-186-34.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] ok so then things I compile go to the usr/local/bin folder? [02:20] Ben1842: that's the normal way - and /usr/local/bin is already in your default path, so you should be able to run the prog just by typing its name [02:20] I see [02:20] i dont care kubuntu's philosphy, i want to customize my computer [02:20] ok thx alot you have been a huge help [02:20] and kubuntu's kdm is not customizable [02:20] =( === Rogue_Jedi_X [~roguejedi@BSN-77-186-162.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] it's not? how customized do you need to get? [02:21] icons themes widgets [02:21] caeza: How long do you sit and stare at a login prompt for? [02:21] what else could you want? [02:22] gdh: but i need the users list because my sister have 5 years old [02:22] and she uses the PC [02:22] and she NEEDS the kdm with the list [02:22] caeza: I'll admit I use gdm because of that feature at work [02:22] partiotion out windows for her she's 5 [02:22] so call centre operators who are too stupid to remember their login name can choose it from a list [02:23] LOL [02:23] heh... i want she will use Linux from now =) === eNiNjA [~will@pool-151-205-49-175.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] well than she better learn to type lol [02:23] aye, before Billyboy has a chance to corrupt her :) [02:25] I know that i see kdm just a few seconds, but is really really ugly on kubuntu === developer [~developer@pool-68-238-186-34.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === T-Bass [~developer@pool-68-238-186-34.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === nocloud [~andy@cpe-70-93-71-77.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [~gcamposm@200.121.80.193] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] anybody notice that konqueror tends to take up a lot of ram and not give it back [02:28] and that eventually, ram usage in kubuntu gets higher and higher as your session continues? [02:29] haven't noticed it. you mean as your browse or what? remember caching is a good thing. no need to give it back unless something needs it [02:30] yes, kubuntu is like windows with the ram :( [02:30] i have to restart my PC every 3 hours [02:30] in this case that's not an insult. caching is a godsend. [02:30] why restart? exhaust ram? === aeris [~aeris@66-227-181-187.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] yes... it start using 220 MB with amaroK, Kopete and Konqueror. 3 hours later, ram usage is arround 450 -500 MB [02:31] and im just chating === nickolau [~nickolau@201.29.171.238] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] and listening music [02:32] but there's nothing wrong with caching. not saying you aren't seeing a leak. but caching is SUPPOSED to happen [02:32] the more you use the computer, the more it caches. disk writes, disk reads, anything it can. that's the sign of a GOOD design [02:33] but there are no reason to use 500 MB of ram listening music [02:33] caeza: many of the mp3s you're playing will be cached in RAM. [02:33] it apeears to be a mac XD [02:33] possibly. but is it taking up the ram? or is something else (like disk cache) [02:33] caeza: If any real program wants RAM, the cache will be flushed out [02:33] whats an edonkey client for KDE? [02:34] kmldonkey ? [02:34] i understand, but why 3 "little" apps uses 250 MB and Operating System uses another 250 MB. It's make no sense === nickolau [~nickolau@201.29.171.238] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:35] gdh: thank you [02:35] =) [02:35] there's nothing little about kde services. unless you see yourself exhausing ram and dying because of it, it's doing it's job [02:36] that's true [02:36] well, really im not worry about rebooting every 3 or 4 hours. Windows needs to roboot every 30 minutes, lol [02:36] it will TRY to fill up ram. and then if it needs to it'll start flushing cache to load more active programs and swap the other stuff [02:37] yuck. you shouldnt' need to reboot. in fact, you are slowing yourself down by "manually" flushing your cache. [02:37] it was to re-cache everything and then you reboot and start over again. :) [02:37] oh i see. i have no idea about Linux, i just use it [02:38] then, no more reboots [02:38] cool. well that's a good thing. the kubuntu disk installer (and not handling RAID well) almost made me not use kubuntu [02:38] but i'm glad i did (2 days now). it's awesome .. mandrake/fedora/suse convert [02:39] definately don't reboot. as long as you have swap space, you'll be fine. and it'll get faster as you use it (or so the cache theory goes) [02:39] i have 1 GB of swap and 256 MB of ram [02:40] you're fine then. you'll run forever. :) [02:40] let the OS handle figuring out what you are using a lot. it'll put the most used stuff right into RAM. and store the other stuff for later === Rogue_Jedi_X [~roguejedi@BSN-77-186-162.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] oh, i see. then, reboot is very stupid :S === apokryphos [~dw@host-84-9-109-233.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] can i install slackware packages? [02:46] with kubuntu [02:48] anyone here run kmldonkey on an amd64 machine? === charles [~charles@adsl-153-174-174.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === twidget [~twidget@adsl-153-174-174.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === yasser [~yasser@59.93.163.13] has joined #kubuntu === caeza [~caeza@200.29.52.216] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [03:04] whats the command to redetect hardware [03:05] like pcmia cards === incubii [~incubii@61.68.52.117] has joined #kubuntu === twidget [~twidget@adsl-153-174-174.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === c0rrupt_ [~joe@cpe-24-195-168-45.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.44] has joined #kubuntu === yasser is now known as coolblue === coolblue [~yasser@59.93.163.13] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [~Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-127-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] can ubuntu use slackware packages? [03:16] if there is a .deb converter for them, sure. [03:17] have you tried alien? works in ubuntu..... [03:18] slackware .pkg's are just tarballs [03:18] mind, I suppose by that logic .deb's are just shar-archives. [03:19] ignore me [03:19] gdh: :) dependencies are impressive .. slack doesn't do that, right? [03:19] never ran slack .. well, once a million years ago (1996) [03:20] slack has a faint idea of dependencies [03:20] (yes, me too about 1996 :) [03:20] i'm so impressed with the speed of .deb's (or apt-get, not sure which). but .rpms from mandrake/fedora were so damn slow to install [03:20] apt-get flies like no tomorrow [03:20] ok? [03:20] well [03:20] that doesnt help me [03:20] im trying to install rtl8180 drivers [03:20] what doesn't? alien? [03:20] I did like Patrick's Volkerding's decision to jump eform Slack 3.6 -> 7.0 because MDK / RedHat were up to those versions :D [03:21] tried using ndiswrapper and the windows binary driver [03:21] why not. he makes it, he can call it 0x5D if he wants [03:21] c0rrupt_: a driver needs to be compiled against your running kernel... [03:21] so [03:21] i need to re-config my kernel with the driver and compile the whole kernel? [03:21] so you'll need the source for the driver and at least the kernel-headers package [03:21] have the source [03:22] no, if the driver isn't a piece of shit, then the kernel-headers should be adequate [03:22] ok [03:22] LOL [03:22] blech. sounds terrible. i'm so "over" messing with kernels. i gave it up .. a million years ago. :) [03:22] well [03:22] how can i use the kernel-headers [03:22] there is no kernel source here [03:22] T-Bass: Sometimes hardware gives you no choice [03:23] my brain has just issued a shutdown notification [03:23] so I guess it's time for bed. [03:23] good luck with the driver :) [03:23] eh [03:23] nn [03:23] LOL [03:23] damn [03:23] ;\ [03:24] gdh: i hear you. i won't buy the hardware, or i won't install it. at least that's what i've been able to do so far [03:24] doh [03:24] how can i get default kubuntu desktop settings???? === _anderson [~anderson@200.163.24.193] has joined #kubuntu [03:25] how can i get default kubuntu desktop settings???? i got stupid yoper's settings...... === _anderson [~anderson@200.163.24.193] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === T-Bass is now known as jbasilio [03:29] how can i get default kubuntu desktop settings???? i got stupid yoper's settings...... === boga [~boga@CPE0011095f2041-CM00e06f240dd8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #Kubuntu [03:30] coolblue: what default's are you looking for? if you really want default, mv .kde .kde.bak and scrape stuff back in for your settings [03:32] i mean....i want kubuntu's...i got the previous distro's === frequency [~frequency@cpe-24-28-173-234.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:33] coolblue: right. if you do "mv .kde .kde.bak" and log out and in again .. you'll get it [03:34] coolblue: then you can copy back in your .kde/share/ bits in order to restore your apps ... kmail settings, etc === jrattner1 [~jrattner@ool-457389b0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] How do you set up hotkeys in KDE? [03:41] jrattner1: in control center under accessibility [03:41] jrattner1: fing Regional & Accessibility and look for Hot keys somewhere [03:41] or in the menu editor under each item [03:41] i found that but its actually a little confusing [03:42] here's a question. where are the menus stored? i have this "lost & found" in my menu that irritates the hell out of me [03:42] mv .kde .kde.bak - in terminal? any gui way? what does this do? [03:42] jbasilio: Right click on KDE's "start" button and edit the menu. [03:43] DO i want keyboard shortcuts or Khotkeys [03:43] boga: well, i just want the "default" one. don't want to edit individual users menus [03:44] some software not native to KDE must have been installed. Look for it and uninstall it. [03:45] coolblue: it moved all of your KDE settings out of the way. EVERYTHING. as in all your user settings. then it will rebuild when you log in [03:45] coolblue: it depends on how badly you want the defaults. you essentially have to reenter stuff like usernames/mail etc [03:45] coolblue: but you can copy it all back in 1 at a time .. [03:46] but only for konq? not for ff right? [03:46] right. konq and everything kde related (kmail, kopete, kwallet) [03:52] KHOTKEYS is terrible [03:52] is there a config file somewhere [03:52] i just want to hotkey my browser and stuff [03:53] i'm having a huge problem with my time being correct, how do i fix this? it's on the right time zone and everything [03:54] I'm only wondering: can you make Kubuntu appear to behave like Mac OS X? [03:55] The dock and such? [03:55] If not, no big deal, like I said: only wondering. === twidget [~twidget@adsl-153-174-174.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === jrattner1 [~jrattner@ool-457389b0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:00] twidget: i've seen screen shots that look like mac os x. i never worked on it to figure out how they did it [04:00] looks on kde-apps or kde-look [04:00] jbasilio: thanks === _frank [~frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] twidget: sure. not much help though .. :) [04:01] where is the configureation file for khotkeys? [04:01] I'm also toying with the idea of trying Gentoo/GNOME === _matthew [~matthew@cust6873.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] twidget: you can pull down gnome from kubuntu. easy. [04:01] and you won't need to wait 5 days between package installations .. and your CPU won't fry eggs [04:02] I think I'll try their live CD first, just to get an idea of what it's like. [04:03] twidget: you do know in gentoo you recompile everything you want to install, right? [04:03] I'm hoping their screen won't self-distruct 5 minutes into anything. [04:04] jbasilio: I've heard that, but being a newbie, that really hadn't sunk in exactly what it means. [04:04] the default ubuntu looks pretty nice. [04:04] where can i get the ubuntu smp kernel [04:04] twidget: it means every time you install something .. it'll take a LOOOONG time. hours [04:04] twidget: hours for big apps i mean .. kde would be days === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] My screen turns to garbage within minutes. [04:05] twidget: if you are looking for different "looks", play around with swapping in gnome .. apt-get install [04:05] like its copying from an offscreen bitmap, where there isn't one. [04:05] It could be because I'm on an AMD 64 [04:05] twidget: what video card? [04:07] Um... on the motherboard [04:07] Asus ANI8-SLI deluxe or something like that [04:08] I'm looking... [04:09] twidget: ok. didn't know if it was nvidia and if you had installed nvidia xorg drivers. if so, agp can be an issue [04:10] I haven't installed anything additional yet. [04:10] twidget: was there a special kernel for amd 64? [04:10] what's the package I should look for [04:10] ? [04:10] the CD I downloaded is for AMD 64 [04:10] oh, that should definately cover it then. === twidget screams! [04:11] Crap! [04:11] did you google around? [04:11]