[12:11] <Lovechild> I'm guessing there's no official development mailing list or some source code I could look at
[12:11] <Burgundavia> yes ther is
[12:11] <Burgundavia> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/rosetta-users
[12:12] <Burgundavia> there is no source code for rosetta released yet, afaik
[12:50] <segfault> hi
[12:51] <Lovechild> hi segfault 
[12:53] <segfault> How can i assure that my translations get releases with the next packages build?
[12:53] <segfault> s/releases/released
[12:53] <segfault> i'm acctually the team owner of pt_BR (brazilian) translation team, and i'd like to write some guidelines to new translators, so it can be done in the correct way.
[12:55] <Lovechild> right now it doesn't seem that we have any way of adding translation guidelines to the rosetta interface
[12:55] <Lovechild> but I started a proposal debate on rosetta-users to enhance the team experience
[12:57] <segfault> yeah, i think i've read that.
[12:58] <segfault> i just want to know what to say when i'm asked about how to translate correctly. I'd like to be able to tell them: Subscribe to Rosetta, Join the Translation Group, When you translate something, mark as "it should be reviewed", someone reviews that, your translation appears in the next package build.
[12:59] <Lovechild> the default has to be that everything has to be reviewed, we are all human, we make mistakes - we need to ensure the best possible user experience
[01:00] <segfault> So if i translate something, and don't check it as "should be reviewd", it won't be released?
[01:00] <Lovechild> oh one other nice thing would be to be able to apply a change to all packages in one go - like when Browser became a legal danish word, we had to manually change all the .po files, in Rosetta it would be nice to just change them all in one go
[01:01] <Lovechild> I don't think that rosetta translations are being packaged right now to be honest
[01:01] <Lovechild> the system isn't perfect yet
[01:04] <Nafallo> Lovechild: they are. language-pack-{CC,gnome-CC,kde-CC}[-base] 
[01:04] <Nafallo> :-)
[01:04] <Lovechild> oh.. I didn't know
[01:05] <Nafallo> in hoary we did not have *gnome-CC* and *kde-CC*
[01:05] <Nafallo> those are brand new ;-)
[01:05] <Lovechild> Breezy looks like it will be neat
[01:06] <Lovechild> I still love my Fedora though
[01:06] <segfault> weird, there's no language-pack-gnome-pt-br
[01:06] <segfault> :(
[01:06] <segfault> just -pt
[01:06] <Nafallo> what I wonder is if hoary get updated language-packs
[01:06] <Lovechild> it really should
[01:07] <Lovechild> but hopefully we can get some debate going on that
[01:07] <Nafallo> not now. we should wait til pitti have teached me about the language-packs :-)
[01:08] <Nafallo> then we would be _two_ working on it. the package front that is
[01:08] <Nafallo> I believe it's carlos that handles this for the launchpad-side.
[01:10] <Lovechild> hopefully we can make it rock for Breezy
[08:28] <nakeee> do I need to be an admin to add new package to a translation team?
[08:36] <nakeee> I don't get it, why am I chosing prefered langauge if I still see all the list of langauges?
[09:23] <nakeee> oh it's a bug..
[10:18] <Stefan_F> Hm... got some problems using launchpad, some of my german translations don't get saved as suggestions, others do twice :/
[01:36] <bulb> hello
[01:36] <bulb> where can i see rosetta mailing list history?
[01:37] <bulb> i'm interested if there has been any discussions considering this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?postid=288409
[01:38] <mdke> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rosetta-users
[01:39] <bulb> as i can see, there has been no discussions on it :(
[01:40] <bulb> the problem is: how is ubuntu going to deal with official gnome translations?
[01:40] <bulb> on a side note: why has ubuntu removed translation credits on breezy from many gnome programs
[01:40] <bulb> ?
[01:46] <bulb> is there anybody to have some insight about these questions?
[01:51] <WaterSevenUb> bulb: this matter also worries me because it seems extremely important. In relation to your side note, I have no idea.
[01:53] <WaterSevenUb> bulb: I would like to have in launchpad/rosetta some sort of quick information about how the different translation teams are interacting or some sort of links to that info. Probably, this information is available somewhere already...
[01:57] <bulb> where might that information be?
[01:58] <bulb> as a contributor to gnome translation team, i am getting really pissed off at canonical
[05:55] <akaihola> Does Rosetta provide a forum for each translation team? It would be useful to discuss alternatives.
[05:57] <Nafallo> akaihola: nope. I would suggest irc though :-)
[06:04] <akaihola> How can I contact contributors (not belonging to team)?
[06:07] <Nafallo> akaihola: look at the memberpage and see if they have an contactmail
[06:07] <Nafallo> akaihola: if not, go to the admin and mail him. that would be my solution anyway :-).
[06:09] <akaihola> hmm, can't find the user ID... I only know his name
[06:10] <akaihola> ah, found the search function
[09:38] <segfault> anyone around?
[10:09] <Mez> segfault, just ask your question