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Epod69anyone know why nvidia would just stop working?12:00
LinuxJonesSnippy, ok run gstreamer-properties and try selecting alsa from the dropdown list for output device then hit test to see if you get sound.12:00
Epod69modprobe nvidia doesnt work either12:00
LinuxJonesEpod69, did you upgrade a kernel ?12:01
Snippyfailed to construct pipeline error12:01
BTJusticenickrud: http://pastebin.ca/1946312:01
LinuxJonesEpod69, what was selected before ?12:01
Epod69yea, but i believe i was using the same kernel I am now12:01
Epod69should i remove hte old kernel and reinstall nvidia?12:01
Epod69the*12:01
Snippymaybe cuz the guy b4 told me to unselect "enable sound server"12:01
nickrudBTJustice, you have no sound :)12:01
LinuxJonessnippy sorry ^^ was for you.12:01
Epod69snippy, sound server doesnt matter when using alsa12:02
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BTJusticenickrud: I figured.  What do I need ot do?12:02
Snippynp LinuxJones, ALSA was selected before.. I tried esd and all the others.. no luck at all12:02
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LinuxJonesSnippy, how many soundcards do you have ?12:03
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segfault2ksomeone knows how to install enlightenment e17 on ubuntu?12:03
eloyubuntu-es12:03
SnippyLinuxJones, I have 1 onboard soundcard.. but when I installed ubuntu.. hmm.. I had my USB Headset plugged in.. does this matter?12:04
nickrudBTJustice, snd-emu10k1 should have loaded, if lspci is correct12:04
weejamerdoes anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install12:04
LinuxJonesSnippy, nope12:04
SnippyLinuxJones.. I was hoping so..12:04
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SeanRothsegfalut2k: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=287220#post28722012:05
nickrudI don't have a clue why hotplug did not see that card and load, that's where I would look for bug reports12:05
SeanRothsegfault2k*12:05
weejamerdoes anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install12:05
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SnippyI always had problems with sound on other distris years b4.. but I never installed linux on THIS rig.. I always was able to fix the sound.. except this time.. so strange12:05
BTJusticenickrud: http://pastebin.ca/1946412:05
Snippybut I will now try  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=8  hope this helps12:05
Epod69when I go to install nvidia-glx it wants me to install kernel-image-386 as well..can I not use nvidia with the 686 kernel image?12:06
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LinuxJonesEpod69, yeah install the 686 kernel first12:06
weejamerI have 2 soundcards too snippy 1 onboard and 1 USB it works fine other than my USB speakers don't work12:06
Epod69LinuxJones, i have the 686 already installed and in use12:06
LinuxJonesEpod69, once you've booted into the kernel you can then install nvidia drivers12:07
weejamerdoes anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install12:07
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nickrudI'd try to figure out what the conexant unknown device 8801 was, and disable in bios. (Step one)12:07
LinuxJonesEpod69, are you sure your in the 686 kernel ?12:07
LinuxJonesweejamer, mp3 support isn't included in Ubuntu by default12:07
Epod69linuxjones, yes12:07
weejamercan i install the codec12:07
SeanRothYeah.12:07
Burgundavia!mp312:08
ubotuI guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support12:08
Burgundaviaweejamer, ^12:08
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Epod69is all i need linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and linux-image-686 ?12:08
weejameryes burgundavia?12:09
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Epod69and what is the restricted linux-686 for?12:09
weejamerthanx ubotu12:09
Burgundaviaweejamer, see the link ubotu posted12:09
LinuxJonesEpod69, I am looking at the dependencies for nvidia-glx but don't see any reference to the 386 kernel. Have you upgraded your system since installing ?12:09
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Snippyweejamer, well nothing works here.. :(12:09
crashdhmm12:09
Epod69LinuxJones, yes, ill do it again though, maybe I should restart so that the only kernel to select is the 686 one12:10
Snippybrb guys.. have to restart.. wish me luck ;)12:10
crashdtrying to configure wifi, iwconfig throws up "Rx: invalid nwid"12:10
nickrudBTJustice, does that ring any bells?12:10
crashdwhich the WiFiTroubleshooting reckons is wrong essid12:10
BTJusticenickrud: Des what ring any bells?12:10
LinuxJonesEpod69, yeah upgrade then re-boot into the 686 kernel, you should be ok from then on.12:10
Epod69k12:10
Epod69brb12:10
crashdany ideas?12:11
nickrudconflicts between sound cards; do you have an onboard sound chip you can disable?12:11
BTJusticenickrud: Oh.  The Conexant?  I believe that is my modem.12:11
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BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know how to install realplayer?12:11
BROKEN_LADDERthe directions suck12:11
nickrudBTJustice, which, the communication or multimedia on?12:11
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McScrufflo i mounted an iso image, how do i unmount it?12:11
nickrud*one12:11
BTJusticenickrud: Communication12:11
nickrudBTJustice, so, the multimedia one is the one I'd check12:12
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BTJusticenickrud: The multimedia one is part of my MSI TV Card12:13
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Spudchatanyone know where i could find the driver for my dell's onboard speakers?12:14
Spudchatit doesnt allow me to hear sound in some games for linux12:15
Epod69im in the 686 kernel with no other kernel installed, and nvidia-glx still needs the 386 kernel to be installed =(12:15
nickrudBTJustice, k,12:15
LokeDKhow do i use WPA-PSK?12:15
BTJusticeLooks like it is a sound problem day in the channel12:15
LokeDKor set it up12:16
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Joose^hi12:16
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Epod69anyone else using the 686 kernel with nvidia ?12:17
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nickrudBTJustice, well, let's just do it. sudo modprobe snd-emu10k112:19
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nickrudwhere o where is crimson when you need him :)12:20
BTJusticenickrud: I enter that.  Now what?12:20
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nickrudBTJustice, do the lsmod | grep snd again. you should have something like Snippy flooded :)12:21
FirebirdHi12:21
Snippyheh I'm back12:21
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SeanRothHow do I view hidden files in the terminal?12:23
nickrudSeanRoth, ls -a12:23
SeanRothThanks.12:23
Snippyso guys.. still no luck.. :(12:23
Spudchatwell how would i stop any device that is using my audio device?12:23
funkyHatare the ubuntu repository servers still playing up for everyone else?12:23
BTJusticenickrud: http://pastebin.ca/1946612:23
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nickrudsound sucks right now, although it's better :)12:23
Spudchatsorry any program that is using the device?12:23
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nickrudBTJustice, success! System->preferences->Multmedia selector: audio sink to alsa, and test12:24
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dbernar1funkyHat: ya, they play up for me, whatever playing up means.12:26
funkyHatheh, playing up = not working properly12:26
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dbernar1which ones, funkyHat ?12:27
BTJusticenickrud: Is that the same thing as Control Center > Sound & Multimedia > SOund System?12:27
nickrudBTJustice, kde?12:27
funkyHatsecurity.ubuntu.com12:28
BTJusticeyes12:28
szazanyone about with madwifi experience?12:28
bimberiSnippy: was the reboot to try the acpi_irq_isa=7 thing?12:28
nickrudBTJustice, if you have a soundblaster, cat /dev/urandom will make noise, if your sound is working12:28
nickrudBTJustice, heh12:28
Snippybimberi, yes12:28
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Snippybimberi, no luck at all12:29
nickrudBTJustice, if you have a soundblaster, cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp will make noise, if your sound is working12:29
bimberiSnippy: k - pity :(12:29
nickrudfingers, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp12:29
Snippyok guys, right now, I tried just everything.. but NOTHING worked.. not even a little *bip* out of the speakers..12:29
Snippynow lemme check if the speakers are in the right hole O_O12:29
BTJusticenickrud: nothing12:30
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Snippyoh my..12:30
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Snippynow I'm feeling like a real idiot12:30
SnippyREALLY12:30
gfxstylerhi12:30
nickrudhm, i don't have dmix working, so I can't test that last line. Was it right?12:30
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dbernar1funkyHat: I dont use ubuntu...well, ask someone else, what is it not doing for you?12:31
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BTJusticenickrud: Do I need ot reboot?12:31
gfxstyleri got some network problems12:31
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nickrudBTJustice, no.12:31
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Snippyoh my god.. they werent in ANY hole..12:31
Snippy>______<12:31
ubuntuhe said hole12:31
bimberiSnippy, Snippy, Snippy :)12:31
JoRockis there any difference between the WEP and WEP 40/128 that I need to add to my /etc/network/interfaces file?12:31
gfxstyleri have to type this "route add default gw ....." stuff every time i reboot my computer, it wont save my settings12:31
Snippyomg no that cant beee..12:31
nickrudI haven't used kde recently enough to know what to use to test sound properly.12:32
SnippyI DID not took em out12:32
NightRiderHmmh12:32
piksipossible to be able to install ubuntu 5.04 but use newer kernel?12:32
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Snippy>_< I'm really feeling like an idiot.. wasting you guys's time..12:32
Snippyoh my12:32
ubuntuoh me oh my12:32
mjrpiksi, you can install any kenrel you like afterwards, just won't be supported12:32
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ompaulpiksi, yes, but really why would you do that, because it would not really be Ubuntu anymore :)12:32
Snippysound is .. working12:32
SnippyBUUUUUT somehow very bad quality12:32
ubuntuthen listen up12:32
NightRiderHow can I manage windows's hard disks in ubuntu?12:32
Snippychopping etc12:32
funkyHatdbernar1, i get 'Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)' for 2 of the repositories, and 'This HTTP server has broken range support [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] ' for the other one12:33
NightRiderI would like to copy some files12:33
segfault2kSeanRoth:12:33
SeanRothYeah?12:33
segfault2kdo yun know how to istnall e17 ?12:33
Chaotic_RealityNightRider, you could use samba if it's a different computer.12:33
segfault2k*you *install12:33
NightRiderNo, the same pc12:33
ubuntuemerge12:33
segfault2kmount12:33
ubuntuunite12:33
ubuntuumount12:34
NightRiderI have windows installed on an ntfs drive and ubuntu on second drive12:34
szazi take it theres still noone about who knows antthing about wifi and madwifi drivers?12:34
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piksimjr, ompaul: my problem is that both debian sarge and ubuntu 5.04 fail at install tring to detect my sata hdd and atapi over sata dvd (this is a new laptop) BUT knoppix 4.0 does recognize them because it has newer kernel afaik12:34
ixion^^hi, which manual should I be looking at I've tried ifconfig and interfaces but cant see how to turn promiscuous mode on for an interface?12:34
szazanyone!!!12:34
szazplease!!!12:34
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BTJusticenickrud: Control Center > Sound & Multimedia > Sound System has a test button.  Selecting ALSA does nothing.12:34
SeanRothsegfault2k: Hold on, one second.12:34
piksimjr,ompaul : so even installing fails immediately at detection, no partitions found and no cdrom found12:34
ompaulpiksi, that is a reasonable reason :)12:34
ubuntui keep trying to install gentoo, but i get lost in the manual then have to start over12:35
Snippyhow can I fix this bad sound ? o_O12:35
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NightRiderHmh12:35
ompaulpiksi, however check if the relevant module is in the source for your existing kernel12:35
ubuntumaybe i had too much beer waiting for the stage three tarball to unload12:35
NightRiderHow do I use umount?12:35
Chaotic_RealityNightRider, I believe you can mount the ntfs partition, but I am not sure how off the top of my head.12:35
NightRiderHmhm12:35
NightRiderWell12:35
johanbrixion^^: From ifconfig manpage: "promisc    Enable or disable the promiscuous mode of an interface"12:36
piksiompaul: there were some missing12:36
Snippyerrrr brb12:36
NightRiderI only need to read data from there, I'm not willing to write anything, if that help12:36
NightRiders12:36
piksiompaul: i tried loading with insmod and checked with modprobe during the install12:36
Pegahttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gettingstarted there is also how to mount ntfs read only12:36
piksiompaul: didnt' help, some are apparently missing12:36
Pegasearch the page with ntfs and the firs that comes out12:36
ixion^^hmm maybe I was spelling it wrong12:36
piksiompaul: so i guess i need ubuntu install with newer/different kernel than current, i was hoping that the installation was possible from knoppix (which i have installed)12:36
ompaulpiksi, so then it is install a new kernel and live with it until Ubuntu catches up :)12:37
segfault2kSeanRoth: thanks12:37
ubuntudoes anyone know how to not get lost in the manual of Gentoo while trying to install it from a live cd?12:37
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PegaNightRider, did you notice my message? Just to make sure... :P12:38
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SeanRothsegfault2k: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 There's a howto on installing E17.12:38
NightRiderYes thanks for that12:38
Pegak, np12:39
ixion^^johanbr, any chance you know what the syntax for it is, I'm trying ifconfig eth0 promisc and ifconfig eth0 promisc but I'm not convinced anything is happening, no output in dmesg12:39
ubuntugoodbye12:40
gfxstylercan someone tell me in which file the ip adress and gateway adress is stored?12:40
ixion^^try /etc/network/interfaces12:40
ixion^^thats the config, not sure what your question is tbh12:40
gfxstyleri have to add the default gateway adress everytime i reboot the computer and that sucks badly12:41
ixion^^yeh stick it in there12:41
ixion^^just type gateway x.x.x.x12:41
ixion^^on the correct interface12:41
gfxstylerokay i'll do it12:41
ixion^^then, route del default gw x.x.x.x12:42
ixion^^to remove the route12:42
ixion^^then ifdown eth012:42
ixion^^and ifup eth012:42
ixion^^and then see if you can reach an external IP12:42
crashdhow do you un-modprobe something12:42
crashdto take that particular driver out ?12:42
brettcarcrashd: rmmod12:42
nickrudcrashd, rmmod <module>, if it's set up right12:42
crashdk, cool12:42
piksiompaul: well, thanks anyway :-)12:42
segfault2kSeanRoth: yeah, i followed that howto, but my system install e1612:43
gfxstylerim testing it out, see you later :) thanks12:43
segfault2ki've edited the apt preferences12:43
segfault2kbut i dont know what happen12:43
crashdeurgh12:43
crashdwifi is giving me a headache12:43
weejamerdoes anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install12:43
ixion^^because its illigal to supply the codecs with the standard install12:44
nickrudcrashd, the kernel does not guarantee you can rmmod an installed module, but it does work often12:44
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mjrweejamer, you can thank software patents for that12:44
ixion^^crashd, what wifi card? or more importantly, what chipset12:44
weejamerso where do i get the codec ixion^^12:44
ixion^^universe/multiverse12:44
crashdixion^^: well, ubuntu reports it as admtek 821112:44
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weejamer???12:45
bimberi!restricted12:45
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:45
bimberiweejamer: ^^^12:45
ixion^^crashd, the best way to troublshoot wifi problems is to determine the chipset and then google for ubuntu "chipset"12:45
airmikeywhat plugin do i need for firefox to see video12:45
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endeehey . anyone can help me how to intall alsa drivers on my laptop on ubuntu ?12:45
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ixion^^probably the vlc one airmikey12:45
SeanRothsegfault2k: Did you follow every step?12:46
crashdooh12:46
nickrudairmikey, mozilla-mplayer works also12:46
crashdi think ive got it working with ndiswrapper12:46
crashdit suddenly lit up like a christmas tree12:46
ixion^^ndissrapper is evil, but it is easier :)12:46
crashdaye12:46
crashdi tried the opensource 8211 driver12:46
crashdbut it's screwed12:46
airmikeycool...thx guys12:47
ixion^^do ndiswrapper --list12:47
ixion^^shud tell you the status of the hardware12:47
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JoRockwhen you are using a wep password do you have to specify the protocal in /etc/network/interfaces12:48
Snippyok guys12:48
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Snippysomehow.. it works fine now with my sound.. playing a mp3 atm12:48
Snippywhat a magic12:48
crashdahar12:48
crashdit works now :] 12:48
Snippygod I'm feeling so bad..12:48
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nickrudlol, Snippy don't12:48
nickrudit's magic, you're right12:49
FirebirdSnippy, feeling bad 'coz it works now ?12:49
Snippybut the speaker.. dude the speakeeeers wherent plugged in..12:49
dbernar1No, he is just copying queen.12:49
Snippy-h12:49
nickrudSnippy, BTJustice was right :)12:49
Snippyyeah..12:49
Snippyhaha..12:49
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nickrudbeen there, as I said ;P12:49
Snippybut hey, atleaaast I've got another problem..12:50
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Snippyplaying mp3, no sound from other apps.. I know about this.. and I read somewhere how to fix it but dont remember :(12:50
dbernar1unavaible...12:50
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nickrud!sound12:51
ubotuI heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206312:51
^thehatsrule^Added *!*USERNAME@85.206.65.15 to ignore list12:51
logical_markhey can anyone help me out for a sec. I am new to linux and have a few questions12:51
FirebirdSnippy, did you install sox and all these nifty codecs ?12:51
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dbernar1;)12:52
Snippyhey.. only xmms works now.. nothing else gives sound12:52
ixion^^logical_mark, just ask12:52
Snippyno firebird12:52
FirebirdSnippy, that would be a good start12:52
ChromanceAnyone know where I Can find the hardware support list for Ubunutu? can't seem to find it12:52
Firebirdit's in the "first step install doc"12:52
segfault2k[18:46]  <SeanRoth> segfault2k: Did you follow every step? <- yeah12:52
Snippyoh..12:52
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logical_marklol - well I just started messing with linux last week and so far the best distro I have found is ubuntu b/c it recognizes ALL my hardware without any problems. My biggest problem is installing programs. Mostly b/c I dont know how.12:53
Snippywhat do they do, firebird?12:53
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Firebirdmake it available for the system to play all sorts of sounds12:53
nickrudChromance, you might start at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=hardware&titlesearch=Titles12:53
logical_markI tried to install a .deb package of skype but that when I click on it in my Menu -> Internet -> Skype, nothing happens12:53
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joe__logical_mark, ubuntuguide.org is really good12:53
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logical_markI will check it out thanks joe_12:54
ixion^^logical_mark, could you not find a package in teh universe/multiverse sources?12:54
nickrudheh, ubuntuguide, it's getting edited?12:54
ixion^^synaptic12:54
Snippyfirebird:  I see.. where is the doc located?12:54
logical_marklol,  I have no clue what the universe/multiverse sources are12:54
avanspronsen!ubuntuguide12:54
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.12:54
tiglionabbithey guys, how can I find out what temperature my CPU is right now?12:54
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logical_markI tried synaptic but it dosnt have skype or limiewire12:55
FirebirdSnippy, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:55
nickrud!tell logical_mark about components12:55
logical_markor really anything i am looking for12:55
McScruffwhat is mcopy, i need it but dont have it :(12:55
FirebirdSnippy, it might be worth a try12:55
tiglionabbitlogical_mark: you can get skype from it's own repository.  Go to the skype webpage12:55
SnippyFirebird, lets hope ;)12:55
tiglionabbithttp://skype.com12:55
logical_marktiglionabbit, this is all I find there http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/12:56
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logical_markshould I be looking somewhere else12:56
avanspronsenlogical_mark: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto12:56
Firebirdtiglionabbit, install lm-sensors, run sensors-detect and then /etc/init.d/modutils depmod -a, and check in any temperature application12:56
logical_markthanks avans12:56
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avanspronsenlogical_mark: np12:56
Snippyfirebird, ok doing this now, brb :)12:56
FirebirdSnippy, K12:56
ixion^^logical_mark, before you bother with any of that find out what universe and multiverse are12:56
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ixion^^just google ubuntu multiverse12:57
logical_markI'll google it now12:57
avanspronsenlogical_mark: you should always have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation first if you have questions12:57
ixion^^or universe will probably give you better results12:57
hybrid_gothis there a knofabulator or dashboard equal for Linux?12:57
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joe__is there a window manager that works the way the Mac menu bar works (i.e. when i scroll my mouse over the icons they get bigger and easy to see)12:57
FirebirdSnippy, to avoid having to type your password for each sudo.... do sudo -s -H12:57
ixion^^basically, those sources have crap loads of software12:57
avanspronsenhybrid_goth: gDesklets12:57
tiglionabbitlogical_mark: oh I forgot, it's in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto12:57
logical_markthanks avanspronsen I will do that now that I knwo it is there12:57
hybrid_gothavanspronsen:  ty12:57
avanspronsenlogical_mark: no problems, lots of good stuff there12:58
avanspronsenhybrid_goth: np bud!12:58
logical_markavans are you running ubuntu?12:58
nickrudgdesklets??!!12:58
Snippyfirebird: I just use the root terminal..? works too oO12:58
cut0ffhi there12:58
avanspronsenlogical_mark: yes12:58
FirebirdSnippy, right12:58
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logical_markI looked at slax and really liked what I saw, but no support for my centrino wireless12:58
SnippyFirebird, can I query you for a sec?12:59
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logical_markthanks for the help guys. This is one of the most supportive distro communities i have found.12:59
avanspronsenlogical_mark: Ubuntu is the best distro I have tried, and I have tried a lot of them :-)12:59
logical_markyeah me to avans12:59
joe__logical_mark, ditto12:59
logical_markI like the ease and hardware support12:59
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logical_markand like i just said all you guys are not asses to people with questions01:00
joe__the community is great01:00
avanspronsenhardware support, community, install, defaults, etc...all top notch01:00
joe__avanspronsen, well, maybe not install01:00
logical_markI am going to go lookup that multiverse stuff and read up in wikipedia. thanks for the help01:00
FirebirdSnippy, sure01:00
avanspronsenjoe__: I like the install, very simple, maybe the partitioning could use some work but otherwise nice and simple01:01
nickrudjoe__, it's just that most of us have been burned on installs, and sound, and networking, and ... :)\01:01
joe__nickrud, true, it's functionally great01:01
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joe__and i personally dont have a problem with it at all01:02
joe__i'm used to installing debian, though01:02
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joe__and i've heard there are some good graphical installers that may be easier for novices01:02
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chrissturmi am running a ati card with fglrx driver and dual head. how can i configure on what screen my login screen appears?01:02
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tiglionabbitFirebird: I think I did it wrong and it didn't work01:05
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tiglionabbitgkrellm reports all temperature sensors as 001:06
k-0tikmay not have a temperature sensor01:06
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k-0tiktry out superkaramba also its the same as gkrellm but i like it better because it sits on your desktop all tranlucent and shit01:07
k-0tikits hto01:07
crashdhmm01:08
crashdhow do i move panel applets around?01:09
Firebirdtiglionabbit, but do you have sensors detected ? when you type the command "sensors", does it display the different temperature and fan speeds ?01:09
mjrcrashd, drag with middle button or choose move from applet context menu01:10
Firebirdcrashd, right click -> move ?01:10
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crashdyah, i tried that, but i cant put a new applet in the default ubuntu one in the top right corner01:11
nickrudcrashd, you need to unlock the applets that are blocking: right click, unlock01:11
tiglionabbitFirebird: oh, thanks, that does show my CPU temperature01:12
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n3x4hi, does anyone know what to press when you're installing ubuntu and you're at the blue screen when it's finished installing and you've rebooted, because it says like 'change your timezone' and I go to the 'ok' area through 'tab' , but how do I activate it? because as soon as I click enter, or space it goes to the invisible prompt and the blue screen moves up, and I have to restart to try again.. help is greatly appreciated01:12
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Firebirdtiglionabbit, that means you have installed the sensors correctly. Now with gdesklets (that you should install) you'll have multiple ways to display temperature on your desktop01:14
cappizi have found some thread at the forums about freenx.. but i dont seemt to be abel to install it... someone got a "working" guide for hoary?01:14
tiglionabbitFirebird: thank you01:14
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Firebirdtiglionabbit, de nada01:14
direwolfi dont like the fcc01:14
Firebirdcappiz, weah, I heard freenx rules01:14
n3x4anyone?01:14
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phixionif I use btdownloadcurses to download, how can i make an alias for it, so i dont have to type it all out, maybe just "torrent torrentname.torrent" in console to make it start?01:15
cappizhu Firebird ?01:15
kezzuse ln -s01:15
weejamerdoes anyone know how to switch between 2 sound devices in linux01:15
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kezzor tab complete01:15
Firebirdcappiz, freenx is on the Ubuntu apt repositories... you should be able to apt-get it01:15
nickrudphixion, maybe, alias btd='btdownloadcurses'01:16
weejamerdoes anyone know how to switch between 2 sound devices in linux01:16
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Firebirdcappiz, eventually, read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ <- that's an excellent help, it also have new repositories to have more applications01:16
cappizFirebird what line i need in sources.list then?01:16
cappizcause i dont get it01:16
phixionnickrud, where would I put that?01:16
direwolfim not sure in gnome ...ive been usin xfce01:16
Firebirdcappiz, it's all explained in the website I just gave you01:16
avanspronsen!ubuntuguide01:17
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.01:17
weejamerdoes anyone know how to switch between 2 sound devices in linux01:17
tiglionabbitphixion: to make an alias, say "alias thealias='The Long Command'"  To make it permanent, add that line to your .bashrc file01:17
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phixionthanks alot for the help :)01:17
direwolfweejamer please dont repeat yourself, give people some time and someone will help you01:17
phixiondo you know a way of making it prompt for a certain string?01:17
weejameroooookkkkaaaaaayyyy01:18
Firebirdubotu, it looks to me to be filled with plenty of explanation. If you heard about it, did you also check it out ?01:18
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Firebird01:18
nickrudphixion, I keep those in .bash_aliases, sourced from .bashrc01:18
avanspronsenFirebird: ubotu is a bot of sorts with automated responses :-)01:18
FirebirdThat's exactly what I thought01:19
Firebirddidn't reply to version either... obviously a bot01:19
nickruda stroked bot, tho, Firebird :)01:19
avanspronsenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is roughly the equivalent link on the wiki01:20
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weejamer<<<<not alowed to repeat myself but can anyone help me with sound card issues01:20
chrissturmwhat package is mscorlib.dll in?01:20
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Firebirdnickrud, hehe01:20
phixiontiglionabbit, do i have to reload bash.rc after adding to it? the command i added isnt recognised01:20
direwolfweejamer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22162.html01:20
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Firebirdphilips, exec bash01:21
Firebirdoops01:21
Firebirdphixion, erm, try exec bash01:21
nickrudphixion, source ~/.bashrc to reload01:21
direwolfi love google01:21
sunis there a way to recompile firefox with special options? --enable-pango01:22
phixionthx01:22
phixionboth :)01:22
Firebirdoh right... source works also01:22
cappizFirebird great works :D01:22
piksiem, can anyone tell me reason why apt-get dist-upgrade wants to uninstall mount01:22
piksiand install mount-aes instead01:22
weejamerthat did not fix my issue direwolf01:22
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Firebirdcappiz, hehe, nice ;)01:24
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sunbump01:24
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tiglionabbitnickrud: well the distro has been out for a while, people have learned the basics and are going to start screwing around with things that are harder01:24
nickrudtiglionabbit, yeah, I've noticed01:25
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nickrudlow hanging fruit is harder to find :)01:25
tiglionabbitit's a good thing01:25
tiglionabbitwe're getting smarter01:25
brandonHey, I have a problem with Apache01:25
tiglionabbitsee, the docteam would have us believe that "normal users don't use apache"01:25
direwolfwho doesnt01:25
weejamerhello i got a problem with 2 sound devices how do i switch between the 2 devices01:26
Firebirdbrandon, a few had problems with Apache already.. that program is a biatch, but hey, we love and need it01:26
brandonI installed it with apt-get, and the /var/www directory won't let me save any files in it01:26
brandonYeah, it's the permissions01:26
nickrudtiglionabbit, well, who need's a local webserver, unless you're using debian doc stuff?01:26
tiglionabbitweejamer: system -> preferences -> multimedia systems selector ?01:26
Firebirdweejamer, I suppose you didn't repeat yourself :)01:26
brandonIt won't let me change permissions either01:26
weejamerlol firebird01:26
Firebirdbrandon, you have to use apt-get as superuser01:26
nickrudwhich never was good enough, anyway01:26
brandonI put sudo in front of it...01:27
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tiglionabbitbrandon: you need to be super user to edit directories outside of /home01:27
avanspronsenbrandon: I usually create my own dir as my www root folder01:27
weejamertiglionabbit the  option is not there? but thans01:27
weejamerthanks^01:27
nickrudtiglionabbit, I spoke without thinking: cups01:27
tiglionabbitweejamer: oh, true, I don't really know01:27
brandonOh...is there any way to make my account superuser?01:27
jim_i've got a question so stupid it hurts.01:27
tiglionabbitbrandon: well, you can run anything as root01:28
Firebirdbrandon, it's not a good idea at all to do everything with a super user account01:28
jim_i'm running ubuntu on two machines along with three windows 2k machines.01:28
tiglionabbitbrandon: using sudo, or sudo -s to become root-ish.  Are you familiar with the terminal?01:28
brandonYeah01:28
direwolfwee are both devices showing up? ... lspci and/or lsusb01:28
brandonA little, I don't know too much about it01:28
cappizFirebird the sound isnt working though...01:28
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weejamertiglionabbit if i goto volume control and can goto file>Change device but that don't work either01:29
Firebirdcappiz, did you check the cables, the volume ?01:29
tiglionabbitbrandon: okay, in that case, just do applications -> run application, and type in "gksudo" followed by the name of the program you want to run.  It will then run with root permissions and ask you your password01:29
tiglionabbitweejamer: I think Ubuntu uses all of your devices at the same time, and all that matters is the individual volume control for each one.  Open the volume control panel, switch devices, and start turning things up and unmuting them01:29
jim_i can't get the two ubuntu machines to talk to one another, though they see one another.01:30
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cappizwel... i get sound locally at the computer... cause when i plugin the cabel to the host itself it works01:30
miguelhello everyone!01:30
cappizbut not over NX client01:30
brandonAlright, I can save things in it now. But how do I delete files in there?01:30
Chromanceanyone know how I can get my Grub back for dual boot? I did a new install of windows . Now I can't get my ubuntu linux goin01:30
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weejamerhmmm intresting idea tiglionabbit01:30
brandonI need to delete /var/www/index.html01:30
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warp_h01:30
warp_hi01:30
warp_i need help01:30
miguelsomeone have a source to download mplayer for ubuntu 5.401:30
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Firebirdmiguel yes01:31
avanspronsenjim_ what are you using to talk from machine to machine?01:31
miguelFirebird, tellme plz01:31
warp_how can i change form gcc-4.0 to gcc-3.301:31
weejamerdoes not work tiglionabbit01:31
bimberiChromance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:31
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tiglionabbitbrandon: well, the admins here would kill me if I said "gksudo nautilus".  But um, you could "cd" (change directory) to that folder, and "sudo rm" (switch-user + remove) the files01:31
Chromancethanks01:31
bimberiyw :)01:32
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tiglionabbitbrandon: they think if you run nautilus as root, it will mess up an authority file somewhere01:32
jim_konqueror01:32
warp_how can i change form gcc-4.0 to gcc-3.3?????01:32
Firebirdmiguel you have to use the multiverse repository01:32
direwolfoops haha01:32
tiglionabbit!info mplayer-38601:32
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB01:32
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miguelFirebird, how is that01:32
avanspronsenjim_: what protocol?  are you trying to use ssh, samba, ftp?01:33
tiglionabbitmiguel: mplayer is in multiverse.  See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:33
Firebirdyou have to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list01:33
bimberiwarp_: install gcc-3.3 and modify /usr/bin/gcc (which is a shortcut) to point to gcc3.301:33
Firebirdwell I won't continue as tiglionabbit replied already01:34
jim_avanspronsen: i've tried samba.  I haven't configured ssh or ftp on either machine.01:34
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warp_ok thanks01:34
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avanspronsenjim_: what are you trying to do? copy files? adhoc kinda stuff?01:35
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nickrudwarp_, as bimberi said, but try update-alternatives --config cc01:35
bimberinickrud: ooh yes - thanks :)01:36
warp_ok01:36
brandonAlright, I changed the command for my jEdit launcher to `gksudo jedit'01:36
nickrudbimberi, thanks, I was just panicing over that, looking up some more docs :)01:36
matsurHi all, how do I get cool and Quiet working w/ amd64?01:36
avanspronsenjim_: ssh is really easy...in a termincal type "sudo apt-get install ssh"01:37
brandonSo that lets me save stuff in my /var/www...01:37
avanspronsenjim_: to install on each machine01:37
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brandonBut, how could I move a massive amount of files into it? I have a server on Windows too, and I want the server on both OS's. I have my files on a CD, but it won't let me copy the files and paste them in /var/www.01:38
Chromanceany new info on the new release of Ubuntu?01:38
sunwhy is my .bash_profile not sourced when i first login?01:38
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cappizyou know what that might be Firetech ?01:38
cappizops01:38
brandonAnyone?01:38
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sunbrandon, i use jEdit too; it rocks! :)01:39
nickrudsun, gdm does not source .bashrc; only terminals do.01:40
avanspronsenbrandon: I would have setup a new dir, have you as the owner and www-data as the group.  that way you get the access you need and www-data would have the access it needs01:40
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sunnickrud, is there a .gdmrc i can mess with?01:40
nickrudsun, ~/.gnomerc is sourced whenever you start a gnome session01:41
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sunnickrud, thanks that'll do the trick01:41
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ubuntuubuntu meio doidado... xo voltar pro meu debian01:42
avanspronsenbrandon: you can also chmod the default dir too to update the permissions01:42
farruinnI can't get the modem on my 800 MHz eMac to connect, has anyone configured ppp on an eMac?01:42
h08817i need some help please01:42
miguelFiretech, if i just download w32codes,could work with totem?01:42
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h08817how do i get my netgear usb to work on a linux computer01:43
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h08817i have used it all the time on my windows system01:43
h08817so how do i get it to work in linux?01:43
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FiretechWhy are everyone highlighting me?01:43
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miguelFirebird if i just download w32codes,could work with totem?01:43
h08817netgear wg111 help01:44
FiretechI haven't said anything here for atleast 48 hours01:44
avanspronsenh08817: it is not being automounted?01:44
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h08817whatever that means01:44
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h08817i just want to get online with my linux machine01:44
warp_other question, i have a sony clie peg-s320, How I can raise photos to him?01:44
h08817do i need a driver or something?01:45
Firetechmiguel: Firebird went offline 10 minutes ago.01:45
h08817do i need to configure my internet or what? i am a noob to linux01:45
h08817avanspronsen, how can i get internet on my netgear wg111 usb?01:46
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warp_please help me01:46
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avanspronsenh08817: sorry, misunderstood, though tyou were talking about a usb thumbdrive01:46
Joose^hi guys..01:47
h08817nope sorry01:47
h08817can any1 help me with a netgear wg111 usb?01:47
Joose^nah... i cann't configure my modem.. intel 537ep .. is anybody tried to install it?01:47
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warp_how can i raise photos to sony clie01:48
warp_anyone have a plam???01:49
warp_palm01:49
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lokwhat did the server install of ubuntu does exactly ?01:49
stumbleshey01:49
loka preconfigure install of apache or another server type? or juste a light install ?01:50
farruinnlok: I believe it's a light install, doesn't include gnome etc01:50
bimberi!ndiswrapper01:50
ubotuit has been said that ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:50
farruinnI've never tried it though01:50
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cafuegolok: The ubuntu server install basically does a 'debian' install ;-)01:51
h08817what does ndiswrapper do?01:51
bimberih08817: ubotu's post above plus this thread might help you - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5199301:51
Joose^nah... i cann't configure my modem.. intel 537ep .. is anybody tried to install it?01:51
h08817ok thanks01:51
lokok thanks01:51
bimberih08817: it enables you to use windows wireless drivers01:51
cafuegoh08817: loads windows drivers into the linux kernel, thus sending the signmal to manufacturers that it's OK to only write windows drivers.01:51
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h08817ok i have ndiswrapper installed01:52
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cafuegoh08817: handy for users who can't check docs before they shop, but politically very bad.01:52
h08817how do i find out the list of drivers it will allow me to install01:52
Snippyhello again people01:52
stumbleshow is it finanically viable for Ubuntu to be mailed out to whoever wants it?01:52
Snippyhey cafuego01:52
Snippygot good news for you :P01:52
cafuegoSnippy: Stop accusing me!01:52
h08817i need to install netgear usb wg11101:52
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Snippycafuego hehe:P listen, sound is fixed.. want to know what the problem was?01:53
cafuegoSnippy: What was it?01:53
cafuegovolume turned down? ;-)01:53
direwolfunfortunately i have to use ndiswrapper01:53
Snippycafuego, worse01:53
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cafuegospeakers off?01:53
Snippycafuego: worse01:53
windexstumbles, its advertising. it says for a limited time. the ubuntu foundation at some point made a decision to produce and ship, for free, the cd's to promote the OS.01:53
farruinnHas anyone configured ppp for an eMac modem?  I can't get it to work01:53
Snippythey weren plugged in  >___<01:53
paxsomeone copy their original /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to pastebin for me01:53
Snippy+t01:53
h08817thanks for the link i think there is something useful there01:53
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direwolffor my main tasks anyway ....ahem peripheral ahem ...i can use the linux driver modules for though01:54
cafuego"Of je stopt de stekker erin"01:54
Xenguystumbles: it's not "financially viable"; it's an act of charity and generosity01:54
Snippycafuego, funny uh? I'm feeling so.. idiotic somehow >_<01:54
cafuegofarruinn: is is detected as /dev/ttySX ?01:54
cafuegoSnippy: Well you know, happens to the best of us ;-)01:54
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farruinnthrough the Network dialog I click "detect automatically" and it says it can't detect anything01:55
Snippyhehe yea..01:55
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bimberiSnippy: Let he who hath never made a silly mistake cast the first stone :)01:55
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Snippyanyway, I've got a question.. I got a 120 GB NTFS partition full of important files for me.. how can I access it without restrictions.. maybe even change the partition without moving or losing the files.. any guess?01:55
Snippyhehe01:55
cafuegoSnippy: "not"01:56
mevvishi01:56
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factotumhello mevvis01:56
Joose^nah... i cann't configure my modem.. intel 537ep .. has anybody tried to install it?01:56
cafuegoSnippy: You can READ the files with no problems, but you can't write to that partition without destroying it.01:56
SnippyI've heard that it IS possible to even change the partition without moving / erasing files..01:56
jim__hello everyone... anyone good with shortcuts?01:56
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XenguySnippy: partition magic, or some such01:56
farruinnI've tried configuring things through the Network settings dialog as well as with pppconfig01:57
cafuegoSnippy: Oh, parted yes... keep in mind that has a disclaimer stating to have a backup, coz it MAY mess up.01:57
jim__I need to set the workpath in the shortcut can anyone help?01:57
Snippybut this will delete the files?01:57
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Nomad_1"Extreme Computing": Most people think high powered hardware, I think 'body armor required' (I'm not sure but I think right now is the first time anyone's dinked around on their computer with body armor on :) )01:57
cafuegoSnippy: No, it will move the partition boundaries, but keep the files intact.01:57
Snippywhen I change the partition to ext3.. from ntfs.. wont it destroy the files? o_O01:57
Snippyohh01:57
XenguySnippy: you want software that will do non-destructive partitioning01:57
Snippyyes01:57
farruinnIn /var/log/syslog it gets to "chat[pid]  expect(OK)" then I get "chat[pid]  alarm" "chat[pid]  failed"01:58
cafuegoSnippy: No, if you change the partition type, a few bytes are flipped in the MBR. The problem is when you then run 'mkfs' - that DOES erase everything :-)01:58
Snippywhat is mkfs?01:58
cafuegoSnippy: The actual 'format' equivalent used to make new filesystems.01:58
direwolfmake filesystem (format)01:59
XenguySnippy: I've only used PM (d0ze); on linux there is [G|Q] parted, but I've never used them myself...01:59
nickrudSnippy, take it to the bank: changing partition definitions destroys data.01:59
XenguySnippy: always have a backup ideally before using such s/w01:59
Snippyhow the heck would I backup 120 GB ? >_< it's filled..01:59
sunhow can i run multiple X servers? i want to run different WMs on the same machine01:59
jim__anyone know about creating menu items for cedega games??01:59
cafuegoSnippy: What's yer budget?01:59
direwolfa bunch of dvd's01:59
SnippyI'm student oO02:00
direwolfanother hd...etc02:00
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cafuegodirewolf: By the time you add cost of media plus time spent burning, a new HDD is cheaper.02:00
direwolfagreed02:00
Snippymy DVD Burner is.. hehe well.. broken..02:00
direwolfhd it is!02:00
Snippyand yes its plugged in :P02:00
direwolf;)02:00
cafuegowoo, dvd2 is dibe02:00
cafuegodone02:01
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Snippyso there is absolutly NO chance of just changing the partition type from ntfs to ext3 WITHOUT destroyin' data? *crys*02:01
cafuegoSnippy: None whatsoever.02:01
nickrudSnippy, not an effing chance02:01
direwolfi saw a link on digg.com someone selling 200gb hd's $70 us02:01
Snippywhat does effing mean?02:01
cafuegoSnippy: That works from ext2 to ext3 and not EVER any other time.02:02
SnippyI see..02:02
Snippydamn o_O02:02
dooglusit works for ext3 to ext2 too02:02
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Snippyc'mon guys.. dont make jokes with me.. there MUST be a way..02:02
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nickrudmeans I'm skirting the code of conduct :)02:02
factotumIf there is a way, linux install would have that option at boot time02:03
cafuegoSnippy: No, there is NO way.02:03
Snippydamn02:03
factotumyour outa luck02:03
Snippyand what if I keep NTFS?02:03
nickrudSnippy, it's just a way of saying, back up the stuff on the ntfs partition, if you really want to save the data02:03
Snippyis there a way to read and write to the partition ?02:03
cafuegoSnippy: The ONLY way is to back up all that data, then erase and reformat the disk.02:03
cafuegoSnippy: No way you'd care to put up with.02:04
crashdif you try and modprobe something and it says invalid format xxxx.ko02:04
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crashdwhat's the deal?02:04
direwolfdo you know anyone one who has a drive with enough free space to backup your data?02:04
cafuegoyeah, students ought to know other students with 250GB pr0n drives02:04
direwolfperhaps you could borrow it until you get yours repartitioned and reformatted ?02:04
windexSnippy, sata and ide hard disks are currently less than $1/gb. add an external usb enclosure for $40. you've got yourself a backup.02:05
direwolfcafuego hahaha exactly02:05
factotumi was gonna say, if its pron....lmao02:05
cafuegogod knows i did at uni :-)02:05
Snippyoh my..02:05
desrtya02:05
SnippyI could maybe make my server up02:05
direwolfcafuego...moved up to terabyte network storage eh?02:05
Snippygot 7 pc's around here02:05
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desrtyour typical university student can round up about a TB of porn on short notice02:05
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MrGardenHoseMananyone know a good /cue splitter?02:05
MrGardenHoseMan.cue*02:06
Snippybut I think that all the HDDs together wont even make 100GB02:06
Snippylol02:06
Snippyold stuff02:06
windexi'm sure his data is someting innocent, like MS Paint drawings when he was stoned^H^H^H^H^H^Hin a certian state of mind.02:06
Snippyo_O02:06
desrtwindex; ^W02:06
direwolfsnippy, your 120gb drive is totally full?02:06
windexdesrt, right.02:06
nickrudmn, maybe I'll provide a little space on my server for a bit :)02:06
Snippy10GB alone of website templates I made.. and some GB of designs I made02:06
factotumim guessing its either pron or music02:06
Snippyyes totally full02:06
direwolffirst mistake right there02:06
cafuegoSnippy: You only need 80GB; after that you can resize ntfs, make an 80G ext3 partition, empty and delete NTFS, grow ext3 in size...02:06
desrtmusic = earpr0n02:07
cafuegoSnippy: Takes more time, but doesn't cost extra.02:07
windexanyway, shame on me, talk about Snippy's hard disk contents are not suitable for #ubuntu. they should go in #ubuntu-offtopic.02:07
StormxHeya02:07
Snippylol02:07
Snippyok porn is there too :P02:07
factotumwow, ive been doing webdev for 4 years, dont think Ive had more that 2 gigs of html code at most lol02:07
cafuegoJust trash the pr0n02:07
StormxSnippy, yeh 10gb of "website templates" eh?02:07
Snippyyes02:08
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Snippy+ or -02:08
direwolfhahaha02:08
cafuegoStormx: 300dpi photoshop assemblies aren't small.02:08
Snippyyears of work stuck in the hdd02:08
mevvis:) bye02:08
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factotumid hate to wait for that to load in a browser02:08
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Stormxcafuego: I'm a web designer, shutup.02:08
Octaneholy crap ubuntu-quickguide takes up 29 megs!!02:08
windexSnippy, you do realize of course, that hard disks fail constantly, and not having a backup of this data if its so valuable is really, really.. unprepared.02:08
SnippyStormx I'm one too..02:08
StormxSnippy: ^_^02:08
SnippyI know..02:08
Snippybut I cant afford to buy lots of DVDs02:09
Snippyor another HDD02:09
StormxSnippy: Do you code?02:09
=== cafuego is not a web designer, /me is a web developer. Designers make big slow flash sites. ;-)
SnippyI'm learning it02:09
Snippylearning mostly xhtml02:09
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=== Stormx Doesn't know flash =(
Snippyand php02:09
StormxXHTML + PHP + MySQL = ownage02:09
factotumand the rest of us are stuck building cms's for companies we could care less about02:09
cafuegoStormx: That's =) not =(02:09
windexcafuego, nah. we don't! we seperate web development (server side) and web design (client side).02:09
desrtStormx; boycott mysql02:10
SnippyI'm building CMS's too :P02:10
Stormxdesrt: And use what instead?02:10
desrtStormx; postgres02:10
Snippywww.snippydesigns.com02:10
Snippy;)02:10
StormxSnippy: I'm gonna be designing commercially soon02:10
StormxSnippy, I'm taking a look.02:10
windexcafuego, we flog people if they ask for flash.02:10
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Snippyoh well.. nothings online there :P02:10
StormxBase_02, snippy?02:10
cafuegoyes, switch to a dbms that isn't supported by most web hosting companies, great idea.02:10
Snippychanging design and adding CMs etc02:10
Stormx^_^ I recognise fonts, how sad.02:10
cafuegowindex: That's the way! :-)02:11
Snippyfastly made02:11
Snippyheh02:11
Snippywww.red-claw.com02:11
StormxSnippy: www.dfusenetwork.com - My current site, getting there.......02:11
Snippyanother creation02:11
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Snippygonna have a look :)02:11
windexcafuego, what dbms isin't supported by most web hosting companies, again?02:11
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StormxSnippy: WOW!02:11
cafuegowindex: I find that most of them here don't have pgsql02:11
Snippyif you want, I can show you some of my works?02:11
StormxSnippy: Thats damn good ^_^02:11
Snippythanks02:11
StormxSnippy: You have MSN?02:11
windexcafuego, oh. right. i thought you were saying mysql. _every_ host on the planet has mysql. even yahoo.02:12
Snippyyep02:12
cafuegowindex: yeah02:12
Stormxwindex: Except MS02:12
Snippysnippy@snippydesigns.com   add me ;)02:12
StormxSnippy: OK Will do ^_^02:12
nickrudSnippy, what plugin do I need for your site ;(02:12
Snippy:)02:12
Snippyno plugin? :o02:12
desrtStormx; boycott msn02:12
Snippyits just.. a picture?02:12
spikeit needs java plugin02:12
Stormxdesrt: Haha.02:12
cafuegodesrt: You seem to be awfully busy boycotting02:12
windexStormx, a lot of microsoft IIS hosting providers provide mysql as well, since it's free and sql server costs money.02:13
Snippyo_O02:13
factotumjava...ew02:13
Stormxdesrt: I know, but everyone I know uses it.02:13
nickrudah, ok, I'll get around to that soon enough, never mind :)02:13
desrtcafuego; i don't like bad things02:13
StormxBah, where is GAIM...02:13
spikesnippy: you have java crap at the bottom02:13
factotumsomeones been using dreamweaver hehe02:14
direwolfhahaha02:14
Snippyuh yeah..02:14
Snippyright02:14
Snippylol02:14
StormxSnippy! I'm ashamed with you!02:14
Snippylol02:14
StormxW3C XHTML Validator Pro - ALL THE WAY!02:14
cafuegodesrt: boycott people who ask for boycotts02:14
Stormx(And bluefish on ubuntu)02:15
windexfactotum, my business partner is a print designer, more than a web designer. he uses dreamweaver, and it does what he needs it to do and looks good. :P02:15
desrtcafuego; some boycotts are called for02:15
factotumthats good02:15
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spikemy site is built with dreamwevaer also :)02:15
StormxBAH!!!!02:15
ColonelKernelhigh fiber diets work well too02:15
windexfactotum, on the other hand, i have to write the code under it. thus: dreamweaver sucks.02:15
StormxHAND CODE DAMN YOU!02:15
spike:)02:15
factotumexactly02:15
nickrudmost, if you look hard enough (my political comment of the month)02:15
Snippyas I said o_O this page is fastly build oO02:15
cafuegodesrt: true, but politics and boycotting the US isn't topical here.02:15
StormxIt had better be XHTML Transition - at least!02:15
Snippythe page behind this one.. the locked one is much better:P02:16
desrtcafuego; and where do you live?02:16
factotumworks for some, causes seizures for others02:16
nickrudif I may, cafuego lives in the antipodes :)02:16
StormxI think i'm gonna learn Python02:17
StormxI know PHP inside out now.02:17
factotumour design dept also has dreamweaver, i just treat them as mockups when i get them and start from scratch02:17
factotumi like perl02:17
SnippySOME of my works.. http://redclaw-base.com/files/dossier.zip02:17
factotumor as some call it, that damn pos02:17
StormxSnippy: Hey man, fancy designing commercially?02:18
StormxSnippy: Me, and three other people, are gonna be part of a Web Design company.02:18
Snippyalready got paid to do stuff like that..02:18
Snippybut..02:18
StormxOh.02:18
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Stormx^_^02:18
StormxWel02:18
Stormxits been at a standstill for a couple of months now02:19
Snippyyou know.. I'm going to school and next year I'll be in a special art school.. 2 years then I'm going for Media Designer02:19
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spikei should be leaving. i've been vc++ developer for 6 years. but i like ubuntu ;)02:19
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Stormxvc++?02:19
StormxVisual C++?02:19
factotumvis c eh?02:19
spikeyes02:19
factotumeech02:19
Snippyheh02:19
Stormx^_^ I have NEVER heard of that02:19
Snippyso anyone checked my works?02:20
Snippy:o02:20
cappizsomeone here that might know why i dont get audio through freenx ?02:20
Joose^hey if i have a extern modem like Us Robotics for serial or com port. .. does ubuntu check it?02:20
StormxSnippy, hang on....02:20
Snippyokay ^02:20
windexspike, you'll find that writing code for X under GTK, Glade is somewhat usable for interfaces. :)02:20
nickrudJoose^, yes, ubuntu should find it02:20
windexspike, but not even close to MSVC++/Borland.02:20
spikewell, i am not advertising anything. it just paid my salary02:20
nickrudJoose^, when you run sudo pppconfig to configure your modem link to the net02:21
spikespike.nopastudio.net02:21
StormxBah02:21
StormxI wish I made money02:21
StormxBut im 14 >_>02:21
StormxI can't get real jobs02:21
Joose^nickrud thax.. but i should be connect to internet not? to ubuntu find it, but how i will connect it?02:21
SnippyStormx, dont wonder if the names are crapy for the pics   lol02:21
windexi was 13-14 when i started using linux. i am now 24. :P02:21
Stormx^_^02:21
Stormxwindex: What do you do?02:21
spikei am from bulgaria. it is easy to find nice job these days with php and java only02:22
nickrudJoose^, sudo pppconfig (from a terminal) will truly be your friend for connecting to the net02:22
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spikeand some .net probably02:22
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nickrudmeh02:22
spikeme started with red hat 5.0 and i did not like it02:23
windexStormx, well, up until last friday i was the admin/developer/unix god at a midsized telecommunications company. now they've run out of money, so i'm working as a consultant, full time. i'd spam my url and junk, but a) that's bad and b) my web designing business partner has been too busy to finish our site, while working on customer sites.02:23
cafuegonickrud: Nah02:23
Joose^nickrud ah oka, thax.. yeah 'cause now i'm on dialup now.. and i cann't configured the damm modem..02:23
SnippyI started on linux with suse 8.202:23
Snippyoh my..02:23
Snippylol02:23
nickrudcafuego, thanks02:23
cafuegonickrud: I got distracted by shiny things ;-)02:23
Snippyswitched around on the distris02:23
Snippythen got back to windows02:23
Snippyand then redhat 902:23
Snippy2 weeks02:23
Snippyback to windows02:23
Snippynow since few days ubuntu02:23
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Snippynever back to windows again02:23
ColonelKernelwell, I guess thats it, im sticking with ubuntu for desktop and centos for server - but I wish someone would tell me the patches that ubuntu uses on a stock kernel to make it ubuntu-compatible02:23
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ColonelKernelSnippy, never heard of dual boot?02:24
nickrudI do love to peck at shiny things, to my own detriment :)02:24
Snippystuff changed.. I just used windows for the games.. but now that I can play em with cedega 4.4 I dun care bout windows02:24
Snippysure I heard of it02:24
Snippyeven used it02:24
windexColonelKernel, erm. you should be able to build a kernel from the kernel source that works with ubuntu. just make sure you enable things for your hardware, hotplug support for hotplug, etc.02:24
Snippybut .. yea takes too much space:P02:24
XenguySnippy: maybe 'qemu' also(?)02:24
Snippy?02:24
Xenguyapt-cache show qemu02:25
StormxI love ubuntu02:25
Stormxits so.... usuable02:25
ColonelKernelwindex, nah, device-mapper doesnt work when you do that, theres ubuntu-specific patches somewhere02:25
StormxI only use Windows for gaming now.02:25
_Moz_usable02:25
_Moz_stable02:25
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ColonelKernelStormx, me too, and yahoo webcam02:25
spikeradio also02:25
_Moz_gameable02:25
Stormxusable, stable, user friendly, DAMN EASY TO INSTALL THINGS, supported, open source, awesome community02:25
ColonelKernelif gaim-vv ever makes 2 way yahoo webcam work, ill leave windows entirely02:25
StormxYou just don't get that with windows02:26
_Moz_funniable02:26
Snippyhmmmmmm02:26
StormxMicrosoft are all like "We are inovative" and stuff02:26
SnippyXenguy not sure if qemu works like that..02:26
Stormxbut they never say why02:26
nickrudColonelKernel, if an implementation is choking you, look for another.02:26
windexColonelKernel, hrm. uh, those are redhat supplied patches.02:26
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direwolfin soviet russia, windows gets you!02:26
Snippydid anyone heard about 'vista' aka Longhorn.. what features it has??02:26
Snippyoh my..02:26
Snippyok it MAY be a good OS.. BUT!!02:26
spikei did installed it yesteday02:26
ColonelKernelwindex, thats odd, vanilla kernels work fine on fedora02:26
windexColonelKernel, http://sources.redhat.com/dm/02:26
StormxSnippy: Yep, I downloaded it.02:27
_Moz_News from Internet: Windows Vista will have a shell so powerfull as bash02:27
Snippythe function that it checks video files if they aren illegal or stuff like that really sucks02:27
spikevista is soo nice02:27
_Moz_auhuahuhahuahuahuahuahuhuahauhu02:27
windexColonelKernel, does fedora use device mapper? :P02:27
StormxSnippy: But I don't have a DVD Drive.02:27
ColonelKernelwindex, I do not beleive so.02:27
Joose^well, i have 2 weeks tried to install the damn modem and i still cann't ... damn dial-up02:27
direwolfwhat it was supposed to have and what it will have are two totally separate things02:27
Snippyvista is nice yes..02:27
Joose^xD02:27
direwolfand no, its not02:27
StormxSnippy: Agreed. They did a big crack down on piracy. Gets rid of rights though, doesn't it.02:27
Snippybut this "dont remember the name" is soooo not nice oO02:27
direwolfits a waste02:27
avanspronsenSnippy: Beta 2 will intoruce more of the newer features02:27
Joose^ohh sorry 1 week02:27
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Snippyyea..02:27
StormxSnippy: The new machines will come with a chip that directly checks stuff02:27
nickrudJoose^, it's really a modem at the end of a cable?02:27
direwolfubuntu pwns it02:27
windexColonelKernel, that'd explain why. i know centos uses device-mapper, and it's based on RHEL. i (think) i used those patches.02:27
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StormxWhat about IE7 though?02:28
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StormxIt looks good to me.02:28
Snippythats why I basically took a breath and switched to linux again02:28
direwolfhahaha02:28
windexColonelKernel, does that help you in your quest to enjoy ubuntu slightly more? :P02:28
StormxPNG Alpha channel support!!!!02:28
direwolfie7 is a joke02:28
Joose^nickrud hehe yeah...02:28
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StormxPNG ALPHA CHANNEL SUPPORT GOD DAMN YOU!!!02:28
avanspronsenStormx: IE7 is like firefox light, it doesn't even compare02:28
spikeyes, but it is a player02:28
direwolfthey *might* get around to supporting cdd properly (how much you wanna bet that wont happen)02:28
ColonelKernelwindex, i will have to try those out on the latest vanilla and see what happens02:28
windexin other news, microsoft is going to base its new web browser on khtml ... oh wait, someone else did that.02:28
Joose^ie7 the imitation of mozilla02:28
direwolfcss*02:28
spikeand 90% of the people use it02:28
direwolfie7 = joke02:29
dockanyone know why my board with turn on with one power supply, but not the other.  both work.02:29
Stormxavanspronsen: But most people use IE.02:29
nickrudJoose^, then sudo pppconfig, and point it at the right device: /dev/ttyS0 for com1:, /dev/ttyS1 for com2:02:29
spikethe days of netspace 4.x are gone02:29
StormxI use firefox02:29
StormxI use Opera on windows though02:29
avanspronsenStormx: yes, they will like it, people in the know won;t even bother though02:29
StormxFirefox is fucking slow on my windows PC.02:29
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direwolfon windows i use mozilla suite02:29
SnippyI even heard that intel and amd   MAY be implementing this stuff into the DIE.. that it checks files if they're digitally signed etc.. that would be the end for piracy I guess :(02:29
windexColonelKernel, according to redhat, btw, kernels 2.6 integrate device mapper02:29
windexColonelKernel, it's in the logical volume management config.02:29
Snippytake this with 1 grain of salt.. its a rumor02:29
StormxSnippy: That might take maybe 24 hours for the hacking community to fix.02:29
spikesnippy, piracy will never die in easter eaurope :)02:30
nickrudeaster?02:30
spikeexactly02:30
StormxSnippy: How can they stop it?02:30
SnippyI wouldnt be that sure.. if its on the DIE ??02:30
f_newtoneastern europe...02:30
spikereastern02:30
spikesorry :)02:30
Joose^nickrud.. ok i will do that.. thax ... i tried to configured but in a step "make 537" the terminal print me that autoconf.c doesn't exist in lib/modules02:30
NiJrthere are any way to reset the systray ? , the apps now aren't show there02:30
nickrudheh, we do do easter diff, I guess :)02:30
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spike:)02:30
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f_newtonwhy becuase its full of dishonest immoral bastards?02:30
Snippywell ok there will maybe a method to fake the files and get em a digital signature.. but still02:30
StormxAnyway. I can really see ubuntu becoming the best linux suite out there. Not even Fedora Core can keep up.02:31
direwolftheres always a way02:31
StormxAnd I want to help ubuntu as best I can ^_^02:31
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direwolfhahaha02:31
nickrudJoose^, make?02:31
SnippyStormx, ubuntu, isnt it already the best ;)02:31
Stormxcauego: Eastern europe has limited sea for ships x.X02:31
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cafuegoCopying data is hardly piracy. Piracy involves stealing, pillaging, raping and killing.02:31
spikeyes, they could come to your coast to get to knoe them better02:31
windexcafuego, and ships. and ocean. and pirates!02:31
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StormxAnd they can't stop it, can they.02:31
Snippycracking data, isnt that piracy too ? ^^02:32
nickrudheh, tell that to the Rus, they knew rivers as well :)02:32
StormxI mean, you just get round the damn MIME types, eh?02:32
cafuegoDon't be suckered into using the enemies terminology.02:32
NiJrhow can i restart notification area in taskbar? , now it dont work for me02:32
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StormxNiJr: Just restart X02:32
StormxCtrl + Alt + Delete.02:32
Joose^nickrud yeah02:32
Stormx*Ctrl + Alt + Backspace02:32
Joose^i have a lag02:32
NiJri dont want to restart apps :_(02:32
StormxI'm still in windows mode ^_&02:32
NiJrother way?02:32
f_newtonthe pirates definition of piracy... how quaint02:33
StormxNiJr: It needs to reload gnome to do that.02:33
StormxNiJr: So just save what you're doing and restart X02:33
f_newtonthats like a government's definition of honesty02:33
Snippywell.. this is a serious question.. who likes to download warez? cracks? etc.. who does it?02:33
SnippyI do.02:33
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StormxI do.02:33
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cafuegof_newton: the mpaa/riaa only call it piracy because of the negative cconnotations. By going along with that you give them the upper hand.02:34
Stormxa good 50% of my music is pirated02:34
NiJrthere are thinks that i cant close02:34
KyralYou have got to be kidding me02:34
Snippysoftware SHOULD be free.02:34
Stormxnot to mention all my anime except for Akira02:34
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NiJrthanks Stormx02:34
nickrudJoose^, make is something I've not seen as an error for pppconfig since day one, so, you have problems I haven't seen before02:34
ubuntuomygod02:34
Kyralthere isn't a command line tool to prepend lines to files?02:34
cafuegof_newton: I prefer "alternative distribution"  ;-)02:34
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Snippy100% of my music IS pirated. 100% of my apps (I mean windows apps:P) and games..02:34
StormxxD02:34
StormxHahaha02:34
f_newtonwhatever... you still take for free what people work their lives on in order to feed their families02:34
StormxMy CSE HTML Validator Pro is pirated02:34
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cafuegof_newton: No, I don't.02:34
StormxAnd I went to update it02:34
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cafuegof_newton: I use GPL software.02:35
Stormxand it stored the damn name of the pirated version in the command line02:35
cafuegof_newton: And the Adobe stuff I use I actually paid for.02:35
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StormxA little HTML injection later and I deleted all records in that table xD02:35
chadheyas all02:35
Joose^nickrud.. but that is tried to install the drivers of the modem.. i haven't installed yet02:35
farruinnf_newton: you're implying they're going hungry because he pirates software?02:35
XenguySnippy: hrm, since finding more and more free software, it's become a relief that I don't have to be concerned about downloading and cracking proprietary software02:35
nickrudI want the gpl to be observed: by definition, that means I should observe any other license, no matter how reprehensible02:35
windexSnippy, your in a chat room full of programmers who respect copyright laws. talking about IP theft in the channel is likely to make people not like you, even if they do think what the riaa/mpaa is doing these days is stupid. :D *ahem*02:35
f_newtonfarruinn, mostly its the small people who are hurt not the industry itself02:35
Stormxwindex: I'm a programmer and I don't care about copyright laws02:35
f_newtonthe ones who can least afford it02:36
nickrudJoose^, ? if the modem is an external, you need _no_ other driver.02:36
Snippymaybe in those times its not really right to download software for free that you HAVE to pay for02:36
SnippyBUT02:36
farruinnAnyone around know how to get an eMac modem to work?  I've tried, but I always get "connection script failed"02:36
cafuegof_newton: The ptoblem is the INDUSTRY is hurting 1) the consumer and 2) the small people.02:36
Snippysoftware should be free..02:36
windexStormx, okay. when you write something GPL'd and release it, then microsoft integrates it into IE8, you'll be fine with that. :)02:36
cafuegof_newton: But because the industry can scream louder, the rest isn't heard.02:36
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f_newtonpeople should be rewarded for their hard work time and effort02:36
Snippyand anyway.. if I like a game, I go in the shop and buy it, just to SHOW the company that I like it02:36
SnippyI try the soft before I buy it02:36
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jrattnercan i install debian packages in ubuntu?02:36
Stormxwindex: xD. They wouldn't, though, would they?02:36
f_newtonthis is a bit off topic right?02:36
direwolfbit02:37
cafuegof_newton: yeah :-)02:37
f_newtonjrattner, yes mostly02:37
Joose^nickrud yeah, i know but now i have a pci modem02:37
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Stormxwindex: But if its under GPL, its fine02:37
windexStormx, without copyright laws they could. the GPL depends *highly* on copyright law as it currently exists to function.02:37
Joose^i will buy the external02:37
wootyhy02:37
nickrudJoose^, you bas*#D :)02:37
wootycan someone help me please02:37
jrattnerf_newton, using apt-get or whatever?02:37
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f_newtonyes jrattner02:37
wootyanyone please02:37
Stormxwooty: problem?02:37
Joose^nickrud hahaha :P02:37
SnippyI as student wont go in the shop "whoa cool, need to buy etc.." no.. I dont have the money to throw it away like that.. software IS NOT cheap.. it was way cheaper years ago.. right?02:37
windexStormx, without a strong copyright system, the GPL license may as well be a public domain license.02:37
chadwhere is a good place to start learning the shell commands in linux?  man pages are good but, i wanna practise some02:38
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SnippyI download it first, try it, study it hard and THEN if I really like it, I may consider buying it02:38
jrattnerf_newton, ubuntu is the only distro that worked on my laptop, im brand new to it and the apt-get style of packaging any suggested readings?02:38
Stormxchad: Use FTP.02:38
Stormxwooty: What is your problem?02:38
chadftp?02:38
farruinnchad: search google for shell tutorials or something, there are lots out there02:38
wootywell02:38
Stormxchad: Nevermind, then.02:38
nickrudSnippy, software has never been cheap: I spent over $200US in 1982 to get a decent implementation of forth02:38
wootyits really weird02:38
wootyi used the guide to install ubuntu from hd02:38
windexSnippy, actually software is a lot cheaper now.02:38
wootywhitout using a cd02:38
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Stormxwooty: yes?02:38
wootybecause i dont have cd burner02:39
Snippyoh you think?02:39
Stormxwooty: WTF!02:39
direwolfin 1982 it was a (comparatively) rare commodity02:39
wootyeverything was working fine02:39
Snippytake this example:02:39
Stormxwooty: oh right. OK.........02:39
wootybut when i go to ubuntu install02:39
f_newtonuh someone tell jrattner where to get info on apt-get02:39
wootyit says comresion file is invalid or something02:39
spikejrattner: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb02:39
wootyand system gets locked up02:39
nickrud!find forth02:39
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ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'forth' (4 shown): gforth ;; kforth ;; pforth ;; yforth.02:39
direwolfman apt-get02:39
f_newton!apt-get02:39
uboturumour has it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/02:39
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nickrudheh02:39
Snippyfew years ago, here in my country we had another currency.. software was like 1000 LUF .. (+ - 20$ for a high end game)02:39
Stormxwooty: You're probably better off ordering a CD, or getting someone else to burn a CD for you.02:39
jonathan_can anyone help me switch from gnome to xfce?02:40
SnippyNOW with the EURO currency the price is doubled or triple02:40
farruinnjrattner: there should be a link on that wiki page to the Debian APT Howto, I highly suggest reading it02:40
wootythe problem is that i downloaded 600 mb02:40
Stormxwooty: HDD installation from a windows system is NOT recommended.02:40
Snippythen dont tell me it got cheaper.02:40
f_newtondid you see that url there jrattner ?02:40
wootyand i really dont want em to go to waste02:40
windexSnippy, congratulations, your software prices match US software prices.02:40
jonathan_i installed xfce4 and all dependencies with synaptic02:40
wootybe right back storm02:40
jrattnerfarruinn, where is the link?02:40
Stormxkay02:40
f_newtonhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/02:40
f_newton* _Moz_02:40
Snippynow its like 60$ for a high end game..02:40
direwolfjonathan next time you login choose xfce session02:41
Stormxyes.02:41
windexSnippy, that has _nothing_ to do with software costs, btw. it has a lot more to do with exchange rates. the average game is in the $45-50 USD range.02:41
f_newtonjrattner,   http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/02:41
direwolfon the login splash click session, choose xfce session02:41
Snippyand I just get 50$ / month where I must live with02:41
windexSnippy, for consoles, that can quickly be $55-60.02:41
jonathan_there will be an option on the login screen?02:41
farruinnjrattner: start from that link f_newton gave you, there should be a link to the Debian howto on that page02:41
Snippyno I mean PC games02:41
Snippynot consoles02:41
Stormxjonatha_: Yes, there is.02:41
direwolfif you installed through synaptic there should be02:41
SnippyI dont play on consoles:P02:41
StormxSnippy: DIE DIE DIE02:41
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StormxHey pow3r02:41
SnippyStormx: WHY WHY WHY02:41
jonathan_thanks i'll try that!! should i remove gnome?02:42
direwolfif you only downloaded the package thatd be different02:42
direwolfNO02:42
windexSnippy, well, the thing is, games are a special exception where art has to be thrown in. new games take a lot more creative talent to produce than, say, pong.02:42
Stormxjonathan_: NO NO NO!02:42
farruinnany mac users here have their modems working correctly?02:42
jonathan_ok...02:42
Stormxfarruinn: you mean on ubuntu?02:42
Stormxjonathan_ There is absolutely no need, they can co-exist!02:42
direwolfin fact when after you login to your xfce session you should enable starting gnome support02:42
windexSnippy, compare billing systems, for example. MASS 90, an old unix billing system a lot of small companies used, cost thousands of dollars. now you can go buy software like QuickBooks which has most of the same features for $400.02:42
jonathan_how should i enable gnome support?02:43
Stormxwindex: Technology has got cheaper. You're point?02:43
nickrudwindex, not to mention the Xenix (for example) up front costs02:43
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farruinnStormx: yeah, I'm trying on ubuntu now, but if you know how to on other distros it might be of help02:43
windexStormx, he's saying software has gotten more expensive.02:43
windexnickrud, right.02:43
direwolfon the xfce panel click the lil scissors/pencil icon02:43
dbernar1your point, youre is short for you are.02:43
Stormxwindex: rofl.02:43
SnippyWindex, see, 3 years ago, what did we had? high end games.. new games coming out every month.. and for THAT time it was really high-end and it involved much work too.. artwork etc.. for THAT time it was new etc..02:43
direwolfthen choose sessions and startup then go to advanced tab02:43
windexSnippy, you are not complaining about the price of software, still. you are complaining about politics and exchange rates.02:44
Stormxfarruinn: No idea. They should auto-detect it. What other distros?02:44
jonathan_ok thanks much!02:44
Snippythis may be, but the end effect is the same.. I have to give more money for a game than 3 years b402:44
Quest-MasterThe enormous and overdone price-tags on lots of software not worth that much are sometimes just asking to be pirated. :P02:44
jrattnerAre there any good sources i should put in my sources.list?02:44
StormxSnippy: Most technology has got cheaper, some has got more expensive.02:44
Snippythis just doesnt work if I just get 50$/month02:45
farruinnStormx: ok, well my eMac's modem isn't autodetected, I don't know what to do about that02:45
Stormxjrattner: Hang on.02:45
windexStormx, he's not even talking about technology getting more expensive, he's talking about his countries favorable exchange rate going down the tubes. :)02:45
farruinnI've tried using /dev/ttys0 /dev/ttys1 etc. but I always get "script failed"02:45
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Stormxjrattner: Still hanging in there?02:45
Snippywindex, that may be right02:46
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Snippybut still.. I have to give more money02:46
jrattnerStormx, ok :  )02:46
direwolfyou know if we had implemented a dual exchange rate with china we could cut the trade deficit (with china) in half?02:46
windexk. :)02:46
Snippyso my way to get the software if to download it!02:46
Snippycuz I just dont have the money02:46
Stormxjrattner: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/33094402:46
direwolf-had02:46
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f_newtonbush doesnt care about that cuz he'll be out office by the time the us economy collapses and he'll blame it on some democrat02:46
Stormxjrattner: That should do the trick.02:46
Snippyand when I like a software, say Photoshop CS2 I buy it.. I bought Creative Suite 2.. wasnt cheap.. but I bought it.. to support the company because I work with the soft02:47
StormxSnippy: HAHA OWNED02:47
StormxOK, about software getting more expensive.02:47
StormxYes, it happens02:47
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windexSnippy, then use open source. In small countries, big business like the BSA, RIAA, and MPAA have more sway, and can throw you in jail much easier.02:47
StormxWith the p2p revolution, more software is pirated02:47
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Stormxso less people buy02:47
Snippybut why buy 2 games.. test em, they dont work , and jsut waste 120$? no thanks.02:47
Stormxso prices have to go up.02:47
Xenguychad: this refcard looks interesting: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/02:48
SnippyStormx, thats right.. but WHY is this revolution ?02:48
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cafuegoStormx: That would explain why profits for developers have increased then eh?02:48
jrattnerStormx, sick i figured i had the abbreviated version :   ) Now for my next question lets say i wanted to install a program such as gkrellm, Would it be best to use apt-get install gkrellm or use synpatic to search for it02:48
cafuegoStormx: Nice excuse, but reality doesn't seem to match.02:48
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Snippycafuego, they have?02:48
direwolfpersonally i have no need for priated software...just about everything i need even in windows is available as gpl or  freeware02:48
Stormxcauego: In most cases, yes.02:48
wooty___hy im back02:49
jrattnerStormx, should i include the numbers in my sources.list?02:49
direwolfwindows though , i might pirate just for fun02:49
direwolfhahaha02:49
cafuegoSnippy: yes, MPAA/RIAA members have seen profits increase, despite shipping far less units.02:49
Xenguyjrattner: learn both tools, and then choose your favourite :-)02:49
Stormxjrattner: No.02:49
Snippycafuego, how come?02:49
jrattnerXenguy, is there any advantage to either tool?02:49
wooty___storm02:49
Snippycafuego, how can that be possible? ^^02:49
jrattnerXenguy, I alaways used slackware before this02:49
Stormxjrattner: For software downloading, use synaptic, wherever possible02:49
wooty___i know its not recommended but i would really like if u could help me to install it02:49
cafuegoSnippy: THAT is the question, eh?02:49
Xenguyjrattner: one is command-line, and one is a GUI02:49
Snippycafuego: yes.02:49
direwolfthink about it02:49
jrattnersynpatic is just a gui for apt-get?02:50
cafuegoSnippy: They reported it as "heavy losses due to coyright infringement"02:50
jrattnerjust making sure02:50
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wooty___storm02:50
Xenguyjrattner: basically, yes02:50
Stormxjrattner: Think so.02:50
Stormxwooty__, yes?02:50
jrattnerthis was the only distro that would work on my laptop02:50
Stormx^_^02:50
jrattnerso im forced to learn and love it02:50
Stormxglad to hear it.02:50
StormxUbuntu = awesome02:50
windexcafuego, developer salaries have increased, but developer quality of life has lowered a lot, imho.02:50
wooty___storm so can u help me install it from windows please?02:50
direwolfbands/artists would be better off telling to people to dl their music, dl their albums whatever ...but if you do, buy a tshirt or some such thing ...02:50
StormxIf you can't use apt-get, download the .deb package and use dpkg -i <package name>02:50
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Xenguyjrattner: it's a very nice distribution IMO02:50
jrattnerStormx, I like it so far, its great with hardware02:50
cafuegowindex: it compiles, ship it02:50
Snippycafuego: that doesnt fit in my brain.. less software is sold and developers get more money? something must be damn wrong in this world02:51
direwolfthey get what $0.20/unit sold02:51
jrattnerXenguy, out of curiosity how come I cant su02:51
Stormxjrattner: Dude, you can't imagine how easy it is to get and install software!02:51
wooty___someone here can help me install ubuntu whitout using cd from windows02:51
cafuegoSnippy: I'm talking about music/movies, not software.02:51
wooty___i already got all the config but i got some problems02:51
direwolfhahaha jk ...i think its like $ 1...depends on their contract but you get the idea02:51
Stormxwooty___ never tried it!02:51
jrattnerwooty, anything compared to slackwares package management must be easier02:51
direwolfack02:51
Stormxwooty___ it is going to be VERY differcult.02:51
Xenguyjrattner: Ubu takes a different approach to the old 'root' concept :-)02:51
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wooty___i have all the config done02:52
Xenguy!sudo02:52
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:52
wooty___i just have to fix the problem02:52
wooty___and it will install alone02:52
Snippycafuego, thats almost the same principe isnt it? they make a movie get LOTS of money, nobody watches it cuz they all dled it.. how come they get more money than b4?02:52
StormxNo idea.02:52
wooty___look my problem is that it says that the compression file is invalid02:52
wooty___and it locks up02:52
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wooty___i tryed to make it bin02:52
wooty___but it didnt change at all02:52
cafuegoSnippy: I think these days people don't weatch movuies becuase most movies they make these days are REALLY REALLY BAD.02:53
direwolfwe also have to remember that all the figures we get are from the mapp/riaa anyway02:53
direwolf"studies" paid for by them etc02:53
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cafuegoSnippy: That's certainly the reason i spend $2 at the videos tore and not $40 at the cinema.02:53
wooty___i used the guide from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html02:53
direwolfi wouldnt trust a word of it02:53
Snippycafuego, well.. that depends.. person A like "The ring" person B dislikes it..  hmm02:53
StormxGuys, competion/ease of production and design pushes prices down! piracy/less customers pushes prices up!02:53
jrattner1Does synpatic and ksynpatic run off the same sources file?02:53
StormxYes.02:54
cafuegoStormx: Adam Smith was on crack. Don't believe that shit.02:54
Stormxrofl.02:54
direwolfhryk02:54
wooty___someone here knows how to install ubuntu from windows whitout burining it on a cd?02:54
wooty___i really could use some help02:54
Stormxdude02:54
cafuegoAN economic theory based on infinte growth with limited resources is inherently flawed.02:54
Stormxjust get a friend to burn a CD02:54
Stormxor get a CD burner.02:54
Stormxtheir dead cheap.02:54
nickrudwooty, rumor has it that is not possible02:54
wooty___not in south america02:54
wooty___nick02:54
wooty___http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html02:54
direwolfrumor haha02:54
wooty___read that02:54
wooty___it is posible02:55
Snippyah well.. back to NTFS -> ext3 lol02:55
StormxxD02:55
cafuegowooty___: Can you netboot that machine and do you have a spare linux box?02:55
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direwolfsnippy borrow a hdfrom a fellow student02:55
nickrudnot something I'd recommend as possible :)02:55
direwolfmake things easy on yourself02:55
StormxI've gotta go.02:55
StormxIts almost 2am02:55
SnippyI dont know anyone with a 120GB HDD oO02:55
wooty___i dont know what u mean by netboot and i dont have a spare linux box02:55
wooty___im just going to try it on my client comp02:55
StormxI have a 40 and an 8002:55
wooty___and see how it goes02:55
cafuegowooty___: Then you're SOL.02:55
Snippyaye hardware isnt cheap here:P02:55
StormxSo thats 120 overall.02:55
wooty___sol?02:56
wooty___im a total newb02:56
Snippystormx, come to my house :P lets backup my stuff:P02:56
wooty___in this stuff02:56
StormxSnippy: xD02:56
StormxOK, i'm off02:56
Stormxpeace02:56
wooty___bb02:56
Stormxand lurvvvvvvvve ubuntu02:56
Snippypeace ;)02:56
Stormxcause it lurvvvvvvvvvvves you02:56
Snippy^^02:56
cafuegoStormx: Back up 120, that leaves 40. Resize ntfs to 60 afetr doing the backup; create 100 EXT3. Copy data from ntfs to ext3, delete ntfs, expand ext3, copy back data from 120GB externals.02:56
jrattner1Stormx, when pasting what you sent me on pastebin into my sources.list synaptic gets angry saying it cant stat source package list and the addresses02:56
wooty___someone please help me02:56
direwolfhahaha02:57
cafuegoStormx: Takes some time, but will work.02:57
wooty___stuff here in south america isnt as cheap as in there02:57
wooty___so please dont tell me to buy a burner02:57
Stormxcafuego: No need02:57
cafuegoStormx: be SURE to defrag NTFS before resizing.02:57
cafuegowooty___: Get someone to mail you a cd.02:57
wooty___mail me?02:58
Snippycafuego, I think, youre talking to the wrong person :o02:58
Snippybut im not sure..02:58
wooty___to south america?02:58
cafuegoSnippy: I might be on crack too.02:58
wooty___lol02:58
SnippyI am the one who needs to backup 120gb ntfs02:58
StormxI have 20 gigs on drive one VFAT for win98, 20 gigs on drive one NTFS for win2k, 60gb VFAT on drive B for whatever (music, anime), 20gb drive two ext3 for ubuntu.02:58
cafuegowooty___: Yeah, why not?02:58
wooty___lol02:58
cafuegowooty___: You _DO_ have a mail service there, right?02:58
Snippyoooh Anime?02:58
Snippy:D02:58
wooty___ya02:58
Stormx<3 anime.02:58
wooty___but02:58
SnippyAnime is cool02:58
wooty___nobody will be that nice02:58
wooty___and02:58
StormxMy friend sent me FMA through the post...02:59
wooty___i really dont want to wait 2 weeks02:59
wooty___to use ubuntu02:59
jrattner1Stormx, when pasting what you sent me on pastebin into my sources.list synaptic gets angry saying it cant stat source package list and the url of several of the links included? whats your take?02:59
wooty___if not more02:59
StormxIt got there and I realised I didn't have a DVD drive.02:59
wibblewooty___: http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/02:59
wooty___i got the install02:59
wooty___i just really want to just02:59
wooty___install it from windows02:59
Stormxjrattner1: You're bound to get errors. Did you paste everything correctly, without the numbers? Errors is normal, Seveas tells me.02:59
wooty___anyone know how?02:59
Stormxwooty: Yeh I know02:59
Snippycafuego, so wait, the method is.. if I have 1 GB free on my ntfs partition.. I resize it.. make a ext3 one with the 1 gb.. take 1gb data from the ntfs one put it to the ext3 one.. resize ntfs.. make ext3 bigger again.. etc... ???03:00
Stormxwooty___ what's your address?03:00
StormxI'll mail you a frickin' CD03:00
jrattner1Stormx, yes i pasted it without the numbers and its there correctly03:00
wooty___no03:00
wooty___dont03:00
wooty___thats not the problem03:00
wooty___i just want to figure out how to install it from windows03:00
Stormxjrattner1: When you open it, close the box with errors, do you get packages?03:00
Stormxwooty___: YOU CANT!03:00
wooty___http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html03:00
wooty___what is that all about then03:00
Stormxwooty___: It needs to frickin' change the MBR!03:00
StormxThats bullshit03:01
StormxGet a cd03:01
wooty___changing the mbr is bad?03:01
Stormx^_^ and have a nice day.03:01
wooty___lol03:01
jrattner1Stormx, the next dialogue is a popup saying my package informationg is out of date03:01
Stormxno, but it needs to install GRUB03:01
wooty___i got grub03:01
Stormxjrattner1: So update it.03:01
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Stormxwooty___ is it installed to MBR?03:01
jrattner1Stormx, its going it03:01
Stormx(hd0)03:01
wooty___i have no idea03:01
wooty___i just folowed the guide03:01
wooty___and did what it said03:02
h08817i need some help here03:02
h08817ndiswrapper problem03:02
Stormxwooty___: With no idea what significance each step had?03:02
StormxxD03:02
StormxLook, I don't know man03:02
Stormxfind someone who knows03:02
wooty___lol..03:02
Stormxget someone to burn you a disk03:02
jrattner1Stormx,  I like this it found the package i was looking for, will it automaitcally check dependencies?03:02
Stormxor get a damn disk bruner.03:02
wooty___well03:02
wooty___storm03:02
Snippyohmy.. got lot of work to do with my ntfs crap partition..03:02
wooty___can u help me turn the changes back then please03:02
Stormxjrattner1: In synaptic, yes.03:02
h08817it says cp unknown file or directory03:02
wooty___i have no idea how to do it on my own03:02
StormxSnippy: Mounting problems? BOY DO I HAVE A SCRIPT FOR YOU SIR!03:03
wooty___im afraid i might delete something i shouldnt03:03
Snippyuh?03:03
Snippywell03:03
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StormxSnippy: I have a kickass script that mounts them automaticly, updates fstab, and adds them to your "Computer" bit03:03
JaZy84can somone help me get mp3's working03:03
SnippyStormx: what you mean? I just want to change my NTFS to ext3 oO03:03
wooty___stormx:can u help me please or no03:03
StormxJaZy84: Yes03:03
JaZy84when i try to play them with xmms it just freezes03:03
Stormxwooty___: No, sorry03:04
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h08817can someone get me online with my ubuntu system?03:04
StormxJaZy84: Go into preferences, change the output plugin to eSound03:04
wooty___damn03:04
StormxJaZy84: Its as simple as that03:04
Snippyoh and btw.. I got another problem.. maybe someone can help oO03:04
wooty___so i guess no one in all the channel knows how to install from windows03:04
StormxSnippy: xD, has it got a windows OS on i?03:04
wooty___great =/03:04
JaZy84okay hold on lemme try that03:04
wooty___2:30 hours wasted03:04
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Snippythe fonts of my system.. are not really readable very well..03:04
lJlolelyou can't have desktop icons in xfce right?03:04
wooty___and probably screwed up my computer03:04
Stormxwooty___, reply to the thread.03:04
SnippyStormx, no, just looots of files03:05
direwolfcorrect ljlolel03:05
lJloleldirewolf, well, i just did03:05
wooty___storm03:05
StormxSnippy: use VFAT, not ext3.03:05
direwolfdid you start nautilus?03:05
StormxVFAT = awesome.03:05
wooty___no ofence but writing there wont help me out03:05
Snippywhats VFAT now.. oO03:05
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wooty___because i have no idea how to tell them what my problem is03:05
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Stormxwooty___: Why not?03:05
wooty___the solution was coming here but it didnt work out03:05
cafuegowooty___: You were told you can't install from windows. Which part of that was too hard to grasp?03:05
Stormxwooty___: Look, I don't understand you're problem either, ok?03:05
Snippyis it bad that I choose ext3 to install ubuntu on ?03:05
wooty___cafuego03:06
nickrudwooty___, maybe you can restate?03:06
wooty___yes u can03:06
Stormxwooty___: You're problem is unknown to me, try again tomorow.03:06
wooty___restate?03:06
Stormxnickrud: You are so useless xD03:06
wooty___what u mean03:06
h08817netgear wg111 usb to get online (how do i do it in linux)03:06
Stormxnah just kidding.03:06
avanspronsenSnippy: ext3 is fine03:06
wooty___ooo03:06
wooty___thats a good idea03:06
nickrudStormx, everyone's useless sometimes xP03:06
Snippymhm03:07
Snippyand what is VFAT?03:07
direwolfstarting nautilus is fine but will slow ya down some03:07
direwolffat3203:07
PlanarPlatypusdoes anyone here know where PGP support is hidden in the hoary install of evolution?03:07
direwolf?03:07
cafuegoPlanarPlatypus: gnupg03:07
StormxSnippy: VFAT is File Allocation Tables: Its basicly readable in Windows and Linux.03:07
Snippyreadable..03:07
h08817when i am doing this: ndiswrapper -i netwg111.inf do i need to do like E:\drivers\netwg111.inf for the install file?03:07
avanspronsenStormx: no journaling though?03:07
Snippyand writable?03:07
h08817or what do i do?03:07
wooty___o man03:07
Stormxjournaling? It has write support, too.03:07
wooty___coming here was useless what a pitty03:07
cafuegoh08817: You will need the .inf, the .sys and possibly firmware.03:08
wooty___who would had tought nobody knew how =P03:08
h08817cafuego: how do i do that03:08
cafuegowooty___: You can get paid support if we're not to your likinh.03:08
Stormxwooty___ try again tomorow.03:08
h08817i mean step by step03:08
Snippybut I cant change my NTFS partition to another filesystem without destroying the data.. THATS my problem03:08
avanspronsenStormx: journaling? transactions?03:08
h08817so i am sitting at my terminal and what do i type?03:08
StormxSnippy: Heres what you do.03:08
StormxSnippy: How much of it is used?03:08
PlanarPlatypuscafuego, ah found it, it is somewhat obtuse though03:09
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SnippyStormx, well it's almost full, but I dont really know cuz I dont see the partition under linux03:09
StormxSnippy: You can get read support in linux of NTFS.03:09
cafuegoPlanarPlatypus: 'seahorse' does gui key management.03:09
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StormxSnippy: Why do you have an NTFS partition with no windows on it?03:09
SnippyI had windows on THIS partition03:10
StormxI really have to go.03:10
Snippyit was just meant to be a partition for my files03:10
JaZy84Stormx the esound make it not freeze it looks like it's playing but nothing coming out of speakers.03:10
StormxI'll be back in 12 hours.03:10
Snippyno windows03:10
avanspronsenSnippy: you have no where to move the data?03:10
StormxJaZy84: You have sound on?03:10
Snippyno03:10
JaZy84yeah.03:10
PlanarPlatypuscafuego, fair enough, I was actually trying to find the "is this mail signed" information but it seems to doesn't tell you if they are signed with your own key03:10
JaZy84like the sounds within gnome work fine.03:10
StormxApplications > Sound and Video > Volume control03:10
h08817i am about 5min from walking away from freakin linux03:10
StormxAlso check volume control on XMMS03:10
avanspronsenI don;t believe there is any tool that will help you do an in place change to a filesystem03:10
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direwolfwhy h0881703:11
Stormxavanspronsen: No, its not possible.03:11
Snippywell,a friend told me that he did it once03:11
Snippybut03:11
StormxHE LIED ^_&03:11
h08817b/c i don't know anything about it and i can't get internet on my linux machine03:11
avanspronsenSnippy: I have never heard of it03:11
dbernar1h08817: youll be back:)03:11
Snippyyea.. it killed his hdd afterwards03:11
h08817i hope03:11
dbernar1h08817: what ISP?03:11
h08817comcast03:11
h08817its my netgear wg111 usb03:11
dbernar1WEll, I can hel pyou with that.03:11
avanspronsenSnippy: how much data?03:11
Snippyhe had it running for few hours somehow03:12
dbernar1Ah, wireless...:-/03:12
direwolfok first take deep breath03:12
h08817ok03:12
StormxPeace people.03:12
dbernar1You are shootinhg too high, can you get wires?03:12
SnippyI dont know exactly.. its a 120 GB partition03:12
StormxBai03:12
JaZy84it was using oss instead of ALSA03:12
avanspronsenSnippy: I would be skeptical03:12
h08817no03:12
dbernar1cya Stormx03:12
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SnippyI am03:12
direwolfno im going to use google and see what we come up with03:12
StormxDude. You have way to much porn ^_^03:12
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avanspronsenStormx: :-)03:12
Snippylol03:12
StormxCya 12 hours.03:12
Snippycya :)03:12
Stormx(really this time)03:12
Snippyhehe03:12
dbernar1h08817: look up ndiswrapper on google, and find the list of supported cards, then find yours on there,03:12
dbernar1Or, search for your card model+linux on google, se if it is supported.03:13
h08817dbernar1: once i do that then what03:13
Snippycan someone tell me how I get linux to display my ntfs partition? to check the free space on it03:13
h08817i tried the command ndiswrapper -i netwg111.inf03:13
h08817and i got an error03:13
h08817unable to find file or directory03:13
h08817so is it the wrong card i found the information in a post on the forums03:14
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Snippyavanspronsen ?03:14
JDahlSnippy, cant you mount it and use df ?03:14
arbirhello03:14
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dbernar1find the model on the list, to know it is supported.03:14
direwolfh08817 were you in the directory where you inf and driver file(s) are located?03:14
h08817no they are on a cd03:14
Snippyhow can I mount it? and what is df ?03:14
arbiri need to do a /etc/init.d/networking restart each time i boot my machine.. why is that so ?03:14
dbernar1then get the files from the CD or, somewhere, then do the ndiswrapped, you need the file.03:14
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dbernar1copy them over.03:14
h08817where should i put the files?03:15
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arbirif i do an ifconfig i see my eth0 device with the correct IP address and yet i cannot ping my network unless i restart the service03:15
SnippyJDahl, how can I mount it? and what is df ?03:15
direwolfit would be easiest to copy them to your home folder03:15
slipaway172ok who ever told me that running ubuntu under xfce4 on a via mobo and c3 cpu deserves to be shot and killed.03:15
h08817ok but i have to be root to install it03:15
avanspronsenSnippy: you need to make a dir on /mnt03:15
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JDahlSnippy, mount it like any other partition. Google on "fstab tutorial" or something. 'df' is a program - diskfree03:16
direwolfor make a directory in your home folder "windows_driver" or the like03:16
direwolfthen copy them there03:16
arbirSnippy: df tells you about ur diff partitions on ur system03:16
direwolfyes thats ok03:16
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avanspronsenSnippy: then  something like: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o,ro03:16
Snippyahh03:16
dbernar1you can copy files anywhere, but need to know where they are.03:16
direwolfyou sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf03:16
arbirSnippy: df -H03:16
Snippyoh my03:16
dbernar1There is this concept of specifying the absolute or relative path in unix.03:16
Snippyslowly please :)03:16
h08817but i must be in that directory to install it right?03:16
Snippywhat should I do now?03:16
h08817what is sudo?03:17
dbernar1/var/www/index.html is an absolute path, cause it starts at /03:17
avanspronsenSnippy: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows03:17
h08817why do i have to use it03:17
direwolfsudo lets you run as root03:17
slipaway172su is better03:17
arbirh08817: sudo gives u super user privs. each time u use it03:17
direwolf!sudo03:17
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:17
h08817i have seen that but what argument should i use03:17
dbernar1www/index.html from /var would do the same, but relative to the place you are at at that time.03:17
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Snippyavanspronsen, done03:17
h08817-l -k ?03:17
avanspronsenmount03:18
avanspronsensorry03:18
direwolfh08817 easiest to take this step at a time03:18
travellerwhat is keeping my dvd in the tray when i press the eject button? i have to right click on the icon to eject it, is there a way i can make it so i can just press the button on the drive?03:18
Snippyuh03:18
h08817yeah but i have to leave this chat to go try this03:18
arbirh08817: if you need to run a super user command eg. apt-get update03:18
Snippysudo mkdir /mount/windows03:18
Snippy?03:18
h08817i am on a dual boot system with xp and ubuntu03:18
arbirh08817: you cannot run it with sudo like this '  sudo apt-get update'03:18
slipaway172thats sad03:18
h08817aye this is so hard03:18
h08817no wonder everyone uses windows03:19
arbirbut if you try to run as normal use it wont let you run the command @ h0881703:19
arbirh08817: its not hard, its diff. changes take a while to sink03:19
Xenguytraveller: maybe it needs to be 'unmounted' first?03:19
h08817well i'll go try this sudo root or whatever copy files to hd thing and see if it works03:19
Xenguytraveller: just a guess03:19
arbircan anybody pls help me with my netowoking ? :-(03:19
dbernar1gtg. :(03:19
travellerXenguy: isn't there a way it can be done automatically? i find it quite annoying i have to unmount it everytime before i even try to push the button03:19
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matsurHi all, how do you get Cool 'n' Quiet working w/ amd64?03:20
h08817is there anything i have to do after it is installed to get online?03:20
Xenguyarbir: I saw your Q - that sounds quite odd03:20
arbirXenguy: and i have not been able to figure out whats the real problem03:20
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Xenguytraveller: I've never bothered to investigate, but I've heard of systems like 'automount' etc.03:21
direwolfh08817: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto03:21
h08817what is that for?03:21
hubsiis there any tv program besides xawtv and tvtime?03:21
direwolfhow to set up ndiswrapper03:21
h08817and what files do i need exactly from the cd03:21
h08817just the inf?03:21
arbirXenguy: its such a pain to goto the console each time i reboot my machine03:21
travellerXenguy: from what i understand, gnome-volume-manager handles the mounting and unmounting...is there a remote possibility that it's related to some options there?03:21
Xenguyarbir: have you messed around with your boot-up scripts lately?03:21
direwolf.inf, .sys, .cat (if there)03:22
arbirXenguy: NO.. it was always a problem like that03:22
direwolfplease refer to03:22
direwolfh08817: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto03:22
Xenguytraveller: could be - I really have no idea on this question03:22
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h08817i just went there03:22
travellerXenguy: ok, thanks03:22
h08817whatever bb in 15min03:22
direwolfit walks you through setting up ndiswrapper03:22
luihello people!03:22
direwolfprint it out03:22
h08817i'll print it and try it03:22
h08817thanks for the help03:23
direwolfhth03:23
luianyone has seen Seveas?03:23
arbirhi fiona03:23
Xenguyarbir: have you been able to google the problem at all ?03:24
arbirXenguy: what do i google for ? i dont know how to start my query .. its so weird03:24
Xenguyyeah03:24
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arbirhopes Xenguy can find an answer...03:26
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fionahi arbir03:26
arbirhi fiona talk here pls. dontsend me private messages03:27
arbirfiona.. please dont PM me03:29
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direwolfgetting memory for this old laptop tomorrow, huzzah!03:29
direwolfwill still be a poc though03:29
direwolfthe hardware portion anyway , ubuntu portion is great :)03:30
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Spudchathi everyone...my firefox stopped working so i uninstalled it03:31
Spudchati was wonderin what package i should install now03:31
direwolfi might try to get the winmodem working just for kicks03:31
Chaotic_RealitySpudchat, what happened with firefox? things don't just don't stop working for no reason. :)03:32
Syco54645i am looking for a good pdf viewer03:32
direwolfmozilla-firefox03:32
Syco54645xpdf isnt opening the files that i have right03:32
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Syco54645ghostview is working, but i want to go through it fast and it isnt letting me... any ideas?03:32
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avanspronsenSyco54645: Evince?03:33
Spudchatit just stopped loading03:33
Spudchatit says loading but nothing ever happens03:33
direwolfits notoriously slow startup03:33
direwolfonce it loads it should be ok though03:33
arbirXenguy: i found this problem but no answer even in that Ubuntu forum03:33
Spudchati know but it should load eventually03:33
Spudchatit wont even load03:33
Syco54645avanspronsen, thanks ill take a look at it03:33
servvsumm03:34
servvsdid your firefox ever work?03:34
Chaotic_RealitySpudchat, do you have any processes running?  try ps -aux |grep mozilla-firefox and see if there's a running process...if so kill it, then try03:34
Spudchatwhen ubuntu was first installed03:34
servvsumm03:34
servvsh/o a sec03:34
avanspronsenSyco54645: depends on mono03:34
servvsi think you need to tweak it03:34
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Spudchatits not runnin03:34
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servvshave you ever tweaked it?03:35
TheDemonif you uninstalled it it's not going to load, lol03:35
Spudchatnope03:35
Syco54645avanspronsen, what?03:35
Spudchatlol i uninstalled it then reinstalled it03:35
TheDemonoh03:35
Snippydoes anyone know a GOOD partitioning tool (free) with a user-friendly menu ?03:35
Xenguyarbir: yeah, I'm not having much luck searching03:35
arbirXenguy: i found something03:36
arbirhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26432.html03:36
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TheDemonSpudchat: look in synaptic and see if "mozilla-firefox gnome support" is installed03:36
TheDemoni think it's called that, i'm not posotive03:36
direwolfqtparted03:36
TheDemonyou need that and the firefox base03:36
Syco54645avanspronsen, oh i used apt-get if that is what you meant, i dont worry about dependencies when i can use that03:36
Syco54645it does take a bit of time to render the thumb nails though03:37
Syco54645but that is ok03:37
TheDemonyes, qtparted is very nice03:37
Spudchatit wasnt so i installed it03:37
Snippythanks direwolf03:37
avanspronsenSyco54645: ya, just that some people are put off a bit by mono, or installing mono just for 1 app.  doesn't bother me though03:37
fr500Snippy, gparted woks for me03:37
jrattner1How do I set up hotkeys in KDE?03:37
Snippythanks03:37
direwolfnp03:37
Spudchatit still wont load though03:37
Snippyjust started it.. it shows no devices03:38
LinuxJonesjrattner1, you might be better off asking that in #kubuntu03:38
servvsSpudchat, take a look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42949&highlight=firefox+tweak03:38
Snippynevermind works now03:39
Syco54645avanspronsen, i am put off by the lack of programs in the repository, but i am learning to deal with it... like having my own repository set up... know anything about it, like if it will be able to handle dependencies?  because from what i see, the deb files are no more than a redhat rpm style of thing when used with dpkg -i foo.deb03:39
Xenguyarbir: broadcast, eh?  Looks like a good page for ideas to explore... bit like searching for a needle in a haystack03:39
Spudchati cant03:39
Xenguyarbir: good luck03:39
LinuxJonesSyco54645, you have universe and multiverse repos enabled ?03:39
Spudchatno web browser unless i can see it from the terminal03:39
Syco54645will it get the dependencies if i build my own repository for a few apps that i use that arnt in it already?03:39
avanspronsenSyco54645: lack of programs?03:40
jrattner1Is there any way to make grub, graphical in begining?03:40
Syco54645yes a lack03:40
Syco54645valknut isnt there03:40
servvswtf03:40
Syco54645nor are the frontends to dvdauthor03:40
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servvsoops, wrong chan03:40
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h08817ok it didn't work03:40
juanejwhy synaptic uploader try to download firefox everytime?03:40
Syco54645and yes valknut is dcgui-qt, but that is old... very old, like from 2003... the newest is .3.7 and i dont see it there03:40
arbirThanks Xenguy03:41
arbirXenguy: let me go down to my basement where my server is03:41
Xenguyarbir: I'd be interested in knowing the solution when you get there :-)03:41
Syco54645i mean if someone can prove me wrong (and i hope they can) then please do it03:42
arbirXenguy: sure03:42
Syco54645this is the only thing that is turning me off of ubuntu03:42
arbirXenguy: if you notice... both the broadcasts are fine in that forum03:42
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arbirXenguy: it means that the problem was diff03:42
arbiris gone down03:42
h08817direwolf: it wouldn't let me load the module in the kernel03:42
Xenguyarbir: ahh, I didn't read closely enough then03:42
jrattner1im not sure if ubuntu is reconising my 2 gigs of ram, is there any way to find out03:42
direwolfwhat was the error message?03:43
patriciahy foks! I'm a brand new user in linux/ubuntu and I need some help.03:43
magnetohigh patricia03:43
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h08817fatal: couldn't copy to /lib/some number /net yada yada yada03:43
patriciahi magneto03:43
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direwolfh08177: i asuume you did "sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper"03:43
magneto!hi ubotu03:43
ubotumagneto: I give up, what is it?03:43
h08817no03:43
Syco54645LinuxJones, can i pm you what i have in my /etc/apt/sources.list file?03:43
Snippythank you guys for the help03:44
SnippyI'm off now :)03:44
direwolfh08177: you just did "modprobe -i ndiswrapper" ?03:44
neil__hi all03:44
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h08817direwolf: i became root and did modprobe ndiswrapper03:44
Snippygood bye03:44
h08817i didn't know i needed -i03:44
magnetopatricia: what problems are u having?03:44
h08817it isn't on that paper03:44
patriciaHere is the first question: the configuration menu of some aplications are too small! Why? Other things are just fine, like openoffice, etc..03:44
h08817or the sudo part03:44
direwolftry "sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper"03:44
direwolf-i tells it install or insert (easy way to remember)03:45
Chaotic_Realitydoes apt-get update, update all the latest software for apt-get to grab as far as software patches and such?03:45
h08817do i need to do sudo when installing it also?03:45
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LinuxJonesSyco54645, I will post it to pastebin 1 sec03:45
h08817sudo ndiswrapper -i netwg111.inf?03:45
direwolfif you want to remove its -r03:45
patriciaexample: xine, xmms, rhuthmbox, ...03:45
jrattner1Stormx, im not sure if ubuntu is reconising my 2 gigs of ram, is there any way to find out?03:45
direwolfh08177 yeah03:45
h08817ok bb in 10min please don't leave03:45
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Sakarahello03:46
Syco54645LinuxJones, ok that is just fine... thanks.  i should also mention that my main drive died and i have not gotten a new one yet, so i am running my system on the live cd.03:46
XenguyChaotic_Reality: it should yes (assuming configuration of /etc/apt/sources.list is fine)03:46
Sakaracan somebody help me?:D03:46
LinuxJonesSyco54645, >> http://pastebin.ca/1946703:46
Chaotic_RealityXenguy, is it good to update before installing something, or just once a day is good?03:46
Syco54645jrattner1, type free -m03:46
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DonLpatricia, is your screen resolution to your liking?03:46
Goodspeedsomeone wanna help me with my networking woes?03:46
LinuxJonesSyco54645, ohh03:46
Sakaracan somebody help me?03:46
Sakarahow can i listen mp3s with my linux03:47
Chaotic_RealitySakara, install xmms03:47
Sakaraubuntu03:47
Sakarahow?03:47
XenguyChaotic_Reality: before you install is my preference03:47
Sakaraim new03:47
Chaotic_Realitysudo apt-get install xmms03:47
jrattner1Syco54645, it says total 88503:47
avanspronsenSakara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation03:47
Goodspeedwhat's the linux game where you're an eskimo03:47
Goodspeedthat's like animal crossing?03:47
Syco54645LinuxJones, figured i would leave gentoo once and for all and what a better reason than to have my hd crash (the install was about 4 years old)03:47
Syco54645jrattner1, then i would say that it isnt03:47
Chaotic_RealityXenguy, thanks.  That's what I do in FreeBSD with ports, otherwise something will break if it was recently updated.03:47
XenguyChaotic_Reality: assuming you're not on dial-up ;-)03:48
Chaotic_RealityXenguy, what's that? :)03:48
jrattner1Syco54645, how do i enable it?03:48
LinuxJonesSyco54645, heh, welcome aboard you will love Ubuntu :)03:48
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Syco54645jrattner1, i am not sure i only have 768 gigs of ram03:49
patriciaDonL, what? The screen resolution is fine, very good quality.03:49
JaZy84anyone know of a emulator for ppc linux03:49
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Syco54645LinuxJones, thanks... and i hope that i do.  i would be happier if i could get the newest versions of programs tho and not have to compile by hand... libc6 isnt fun to have to do by hand03:49
Sakarahmm03:49
Sakarai dont understand :D03:50
avanspronsenSakara: what don't you understand?03:50
Syco54645LinuxJones, is valknut in your repos?03:50
Sakarahow i can play mp3s03:50
Sakaralibmad0 (multiverse)- MP3 support for non-gstreamer players03:50
Xenguy!mp303:50
ubotumethinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:50
Goodspeedwhat's the linux game that's like animal crossing?03:51
Goodspeedi jsut saw it on g403:51
jrattner1how do i load high memory support so it reconizes my 2 gigs?03:51
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DonLGoodspeed, never heard of animal crossing. sorry03:51
Goodspeedyou play an eskimo03:51
Syco54645Goodspeed, check out gentoo-portage.com it is a nice way to browse games... maybe you could find it in there03:51
Goodspeedyou upgarde your house03:51
avanspronsenAnyone know if there is a way to get a list of what the ubotu bot knows about?03:51
Sakarafuck...03:52
Sakaraim stupid03:52
direwolfwelcome to my world03:52
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Quest-Masterhttp://cronopios.net/blog/wp-content/vivsemacs.png03:53
Sakarai just cant find anything that could help me :D03:53
Chaotic_RealitySakara, I already told you how to install xmms, which is just like winamp.03:53
Sakarareally?:D03:53
Sakarawhen03:53
Chaotic_Realitysudo apt-get install xmms03:53
LinuxJonesSyco54645, valknut is not in the repos, good news is that hopefully breezy will be getting relatively stable in the next month or so :)03:53
arbirXenguy: are you there ?03:54
Sakarait does nothing?03:54
Xenguyarbir: yep03:54
Syco54645LinuxJones, think they will add it in then??  i mean valknut has been called such for over a year03:54
direwolfhuh03:54
avanspronsenChaotic_Reality: that doesn't include mp3 by default03:54
arbirXenguy: can you paste what is in ur /etc/networking/interfaces file ?03:54
Xenguyarbir: hang on03:54
LinuxJonesSyco54645, I don't even know what that program does....what is it ?03:54
Chaotic_Realityavanspronsen, seemed to work for me with only having to adjust my output.03:54
patriciaCould someone help me?03:54
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Sakarachaotic where it should come?:D03:55
Sakarathat program03:55
dandelionpatricia: it all depends on what your problem is03:55
Syco54645LinuxJones, it is a directconnect program... i trade smashing pumpkins and other concerts, so i kinda need it03:55
Syco54645not that i cant compile it by hand03:55
Syco54645i am just getting lazy in my old age03:55
Chaotic_RealitySakara, after it's installed you should be able to open it under Applications->Sound & Video->XMMS03:55
avanspronsenthe following doc talks about enabling mp3 support : http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:55
Sakarano,i cant see it03:56
Chaotic_Realitythen it's not installed...03:56
DonLpatricia, everything is too small for you to read? You might check your screen resolution and see if you can change it from say 1024x768 to 800x600. If you're new to linux maybe that's the problem. Under windows maybe it was a different resolution03:56
fr500Syco54645, and the chat, is it IRC?03:56
Syco54645LinuxJones, well thanks for all of your help... i doubt that i will use anything but ubuntu once i get a new drive03:56
LinuxJonesSyco54645, there may be Debian packages that you may be able to install03:56
LinuxJonesSyco54645, cool :)03:57
avanspronsenSakara: look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats .  let us know if you get tripped up03:57
Syco54645fr500 the chat is not irc... it is like irc but it is made by neomadus03:57
fr500ok03:57
fr500looks cool03:57
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DonLpatricia, if the problem seems system-wide that may be the problem.03:57
Syco54645LinuxJones, i am no stranger to having to compile stuff myself (used to use mandrake and i refuse to use rpms)03:57
fr500it's like the idea behind original napster or something?03:57
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Syco54645fr500 kinda, except live music sharing is legal03:58
fr500oh03:58
fr500ol03:58
Syco54645see thetradersden.org03:58
Syco54645or dimeadozen.org03:58
arbirwill beback03:58
LinuxJonesSyco54645, can't blame you for that :D03:58
Syco54645even archive.org03:58
patriciaDonL, just the some menu of some aplications. Not all!! The resolution, 1200x800 is fine! But I can't read some menus of Xine, for exemplo.03:58
fr500and how does it ensure it's live?03:58
Syco54645LinuxJones, i went with gentoo back when debian was a pain to get through the install03:58
Syco54645fr500 there are ops like me that check to make sure noone is sharing mp3s03:59
fr500oh03:59
fr500ok03:59
avanspronsenSyco54645: and gentoo was easier ;-)03:59
Syco54645most people dont encode cds to shn or flac03:59
khaije1i do03:59
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DonLIn that case, sorry, patricia . Mine is fine and I don't know what is your problem. 1200x800 sounds like a laptop resolution. Is it?03:59
direwolfi do03:59
Syco54645avanspronsen, everyone says that... it wasnt too hard.  the old debian installed used to die on me.  knoppix made it nicer03:59
jrattner1How do i configure my system for high memory support04:00
Syco54645ok well then the idiots that come to the hubs dont encode cds to flac or shn04:00
Syco54645and besides the hubs are very well patrolled and not in the main hub lists04:00
Syco54645so it is really a word of mouth thing04:00
khaije1for backup to dvd, then make lossy copies for other digital media sources04:00
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h08817direwolf, i'm back04:00
LinuxJonesSyco54645, things have come a long way in the last 2 years or so.04:00
Syco54645khaije1, well the normal kazaa user doesnt04:00
Syco54645LinuxJones, yeah i know... the 2.6 kernel is finally good too04:01
Syco54645:P04:01
khaije1ahh... granted04:01
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Syco54645and i like this community04:01
Syco54645no more elitists04:01
quaruptedMe too04:01
Syco54645finally a linux that is nice04:01
DonLMe too04:01
direwolfhowd it go h0817704:01
h08817direwolf, no luck i got this message    fatal: error inserting ndiswrapper  (lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko)  operatoin not permitted04:02
quaruptedGentoo is nice as well04:02
LinuxJonesSyco54645, yeah 2.6.0 was a big dissapointment for me.04:02
GoodspeedDigiPen04:02
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Goodspeed!!04:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me04:02
Goodspeedi found it!04:02
patriciaDonL, yeah! It is a notebook, a compaq04:02
direwolfand you did " sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper "?04:02
h08817yes04:02
h08817i did sudo everything04:02
DonLpatricia, they go their own way, and I'm afraid I'm out of my area of expertise there.04:03
JaZy84i'm getting an error that says something about libstdc++ trys to open it but doesn't find that file or directory can i install this lib04:03
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Xenguyarbir: are you there now?04:04
jrattner1where can i get the ubuntu smp kernel04:04
patriciaDonL, ok! I'll try to change resolution later....04:04
h08817direwolf, any clue?04:04
direwolfnope04:05
h08817any clue why that happens?04:05
DonLpatricia, "System, Preferences, Screen Resolution"04:05
patriciaNow, one more question:  I can't open doc files, ou mp3 files in other machines, why???04:05
h08817also can u give me a link that will tell me a little more about what sudo does?04:05
patriciaBut, if I copy it to my ubuntu, so, a can read/listen it perfectly! What is the problem?04:06
Sakaradamn!04:06
Sakarastill i cant listen mp3s :D04:06
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DonLI guess that means you should be running Ubuntu on the other machines, patricia04:06
avanspronsenSakara: did you follow the instructions?04:07
patriciahaha... but I can't do it!04:07
balzacholy smokes, i'm having a bad time trying to install my stupid intel 537EP modem04:07
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balzaci think i'm going to just buy an external USR modem04:07
patriciaIt is a configuration problem?04:07
Sakarai tried04:07
direwolf!sudo04:07
balzaci'm a linux newb04:07
ubotusomebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:07
jrattner1where can i get the ubuntu smp kernel?04:08
Sakarai opened synatic package manage04:08
balzacif i weren't bald already, i'd be pulling my hair out04:08
h08817!sudo04:08
ubotu[sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:08
h08817thanks04:08
arbirXenguy: are you there now ? i am back up from my basement04:08
h08817i might have a site let me know what u think04:08
h08817direwolf, http://www.harry-b.de/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=harry:wlan04:08
balzaci have to hand it to the linux community for perseverance in the face of pitiful hardware support04:08
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balzacall these years of getting treated as an after-thought by the hardware manufacturers...04:09
DonLbalzac, I have more hardware problems in this house with my wife's XP and my son's 9804:09
balzacDonL, you must be good at selecting hardware04:09
jrattner1WHERE CAN I GET KERNELS FOR UBUNTU?04:10
DonLWell, I do think about that when I buy it, but I find the linux distros have more ability to recognize more hardware now04:10
balzaci just thought i'd try to get this crappy intel modem working, but it was too much for me.04:10
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balzacit's theoretically possible04:11
seth_kjrattner1, from Synaptic04:11
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jrattner1seth_k, are you sure?04:11
DonLbalzac, sorry but I haven't needed a modem for a while. I use ADSL and love it04:11
holycowjrattner1, apt-cache search kernel04:11
seth_kjrattner1, sure. They're called linux-image-***04:11
balzacthat's another one of my gripes, no broadband where i live04:11
jrattner1im just trying to install the smp kernel04:11
DonLbalzac, that's too bad. Once you have it there, you won't want to leave it04:12
balzacthe US has fallen from #1 in broadband connectedness to #15 or something04:12
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seth_kthen you'll want something like linux-image-2.6.12-6-686-smp jrattner104:12
DonLbalzac, are you in the states?04:12
balzaci want to punch a politician04:12
balzacyes04:12
DonLOk04:13
jrattner1seth_k, after synaptic does its work will it boot that kernel by default?04:13
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seth_kjrattner1, if you uninstall the old one, yes04:13
patriciaDonL, how can i fix it?04:13
concept10anyone know the link of the ubuntu hardware database04:13
jrattner1seth_k, do i have to uninstall the old one to boot the new by default that seems weird04:13
balzacwhew! now i'm starting to feel better.04:13
seth_khttp://hwdb.ubuntu.com but it's down right now04:13
seth_kjrattner1, no, you do not have to. You can also edit /boot/grub/menu.list04:14
seth_kand change the default04:14
balzaci'll just buy the $70 USR external modem04:14
seth_kor I think there is a Boot applet in your Administration menu04:14
concept10seth_k: down for maintenance04:14
balzacubuntu is nice04:14
DonLpatricia, I don't have enough information to help you further, I'm afraid. Don't know what you're trying to do.04:15
balzacthe installed help files are very skimpy04:15
seth_kconcept10, read my line. I told you it was down right now04:15
concept10seth_k: I was asking if it was down for maintenance, I read your line04:15
balzacthe search function is ridiculous. it only searches the page you're looking at, not all the help pages.04:16
balzacactually, that's find, it doesn't have searchable help04:16
balzacnevertheless, i'm quitting windows for ubuntu04:17
DonLbalzac, I did that about 5 years ago. Best move I ever made04:18
balzaci shoulda done it a long time ago04:18
patriciaDonL, i just want to open docs from machines trough the local netware04:18
balzaci kept thinking a few apps were worth staying on windows for04:18
balzacphotoshop, dreamweaver, etc.04:19
DonLpatricia, what machines? What operating systems?04:19
balzacnow i'm going to do ruby on rails and get used to gimp04:19
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DonLbalzac, did you use another gimp-like program before?04:20
patriciaMachines using Windows XP Pro and Home04:20
balzacphotoshop04:20
balzacgimp is very much like photoshop04:20
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DonLbalzac, I've heard that if you know that, gimp follows quite nicely04:20
balzacyou know what is annoying? how hard it is to get a Java VM running on ubuntu04:21
balzacgimp has most of what you need04:21
toresbenice :) btw, I started a webradio :D check it out: http://toresbe.homelinux.org:8000/04:21
toresbeohfuck, sorry04:21
toresbeEWINDOW04:21
balzacDonL, since i don't do print work, i can get away with gimp instead of photoshop04:22
DonLpatricia, any Windows box should recognize a .doc file. Maybe you have a problem connecting your computers together04:22
balzacplus i'm planning on quitting design and focusing on dev04:22
farruinnAnyone here have experience configuring ppp for an eMac?04:22
patriciaDonL, I don't gues so, because every other machines in the LAN can share files with wich other.04:23
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DonLbalzac, Java has always annoyed me till I get it running and leave it. The best results I've had with Ubuntu and Java have been from the instructions on the Wiki or How to from Ubuntu04:23
balzacthanks04:24
concept10Anyone ever configured IrDA with ubuntu to sync palm pilots?04:24
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balzaconce i get my ubuntu system online, i can use apt-get for the java parts04:24
balzaci'm quitting php for ruby on rails04:24
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balzaci figured it would be cool to run it on linux natively04:25
h08817direwolf, ok04:25
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h08817direwolf, i got it installed04:25
h08817direwolf, it says driver present, hardware present04:25
DonLpatricia, getting Unix like boxes and Windows boxes talking for me is a dark art. I've never had much luck unfortunately. From Ubuntu I can see the other windows machines and share files from them, but they seem to have a hard time seeing my Linux box.04:25
h08817direwolf, so now how do i get online with it?04:25
h08817i need help from any104:26
balzacyou know, there's little things that still need work in the user interface of linux04:26
h08817i just installed netgear wg111 usb how do i configure it to get online?04:26
balzaci wish i were a better programmer so i could help fix up gnome04:26
Xenguypatricia: would 'samba' help your boxen to talk to each other?04:26
direwolfdo you have another ethernet connection on the machine or just the usb wireless?04:26
h08817just the usb04:27
DonLbalzac, you don't like gnome?04:27
h08817i connect to my network i have here at home04:27
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direwolfdo you use wep or wpa?04:27
balzacDonL, i'm troubled by it04:27
h08817no i don't use either but i should04:27
balzaci like the configurability04:27
h08817i live in the country so i am not worried about it04:27
balzacbut there's room for improvement04:27
DonLI find it elegant in it's simplicity and wonderful to look at.04:27
h08817but if u think i should have it then please help04:27
balzacthe default gnome is a bit weird, imho04:28
h08817so...04:28
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concept10balzac: whats wierd about it?04:28
h08817direwolf, so can i get online without all that security crap or will linux not allow it04:28
balzaci prefer to have a URI - browser style04:28
direwolfgo to system > preferences > networking04:28
direwolfyou can get on without it04:29
balzaci use that more04:29
jrattner1Are there limewire packages for ubuntu?04:29
h08817ok i am on 2 different computers now so i should brb04:29
balzaci like to copy the URI from one window and use it in another04:29
patriciaXenguy, Shall I install samba or it is already installed?? I gues it is alredy installed since I can see the other machines, am i right?04:29
DonLWhen I discovered Ubuntu, I really liked it, and since it shipped with Gnome, I thought I'd give it a chance. As a result, I spent some time learning it, and now think it's the best (for me at least)04:29
h08817direwolf, what should i do once in there?04:29
PlanarPlatypusjrattner1, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire04:29
wirkHello. What program can I use to rip CDs to mp3 ?04:29
balzacDonL, i think there's a tension between the newb users and power users needing different features04:29
direwolfdo you use dhcp ? or static?04:29
BurgundaviaPlanarPlatypus, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide04:29
DonLbalzac, what do you mean?04:30
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balzaclike apple - they still ship computers with a one-button mouse, which I can't stand to use04:30
Xenguypatricia: I have no idea; it was just a question/suggestion.  You need to ascertain details AFAICT04:30
Burgundaviabalzac, ironically spatial does well with power users but poorly with new users04:30
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balzacbut it's probably better for kids and old people04:30
Burgundaviabalzac, gnome is working to correct this04:30
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johnnybezakhey guys is there a gnome applet in hoary for monitoring/changing wireless connections04:30
concept10wirk: grip04:30
Burgundaviajohnnybezak, no04:30
balzacBurgundavia, you mean the windows remembering their places? i still havent gotten used to it.04:30
wirkThanks concept1004:30
Burgundaviabalzac, yes04:30
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Burgundaviajohnnybezak, NetworkManager will be available in breezy04:31
balzacalso, spread-sheet style is much preferable to icons04:31
h08817direwolf, sweet i am online04:31
iron_citadelHi, y'all.04:31
balzacwhy would i ever want to see a bunch of icons in a directory?04:31
h08817direwolf, how in the future could i make it wep or wpa?04:31
iron_citadelAnyone know anything about evms?04:31
direwolfgreat job h0817704:31
concept10There is a gnome panel applet that works for changing network options, but its nothing like NetworkManager04:31
DonLbalzac, these are all configurable04:31
direwolfwep is easy you would just enter the key in the config tool04:31
Burgundaviabalzac, icons are a lot nicer than spreadsheet for new users04:32
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h08817do i just make one up on my network computer that i am connecting to?04:32
direwolffor wpa you need wpa_supplicant which may be a bit harder to setup04:32
h08817o well i'll just stick to wep04:32
Burgundavia!ubuntuguide04:32
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.04:32
h08817lol04:32
direwolfyou set the router to use wep then enter a phrase and generate a key04:32
direwolfthis is done on the router/ap04:32
h08817o ok thanks for all ur help04:33
h08817well onto my linux system04:33
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direwolfthen you write the key down and enter it into the config tool on the machine with the wireless card04:33
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h08817also one more thing on the ubuntu site it has a tutorial that should answer all my questions right04:33
direwolfnot all but many04:33
direwolfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com04:34
h08817what is the key i can press that will repeat what i type in a terminal window?04:34
balzacanyway, i'm griping about little things. It's great overall04:34
h08817i typed ndiswrapper like a million times04:34
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direwolfup arrow04:34
h08817o ok any other interesting facts i should know as a noob?04:34
LinuxJonesh08817, the up arrow key04:34
h08817thanks04:35
Xenguyh08817: or Ctrl-p ;-)04:35
balzaci'll get used to it.04:35
h08817well i'm gonna go get on with linux screw windows04:35
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DonLbalzac, You'll be enthusiastically brought in and contributing to others here I predict04:36
LinuxJonesh08817, in terminal ctrl + r will let you search (in reverse) the commands you typed in04:36
balzacDonL, thank you.04:36
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balzacDonL, maybe I'll work on my own file-browser sometime.04:37
DonLbalzac, like me. I don't know a lot but I feel good when I can help someone04:37
iron_citadelCan anyone answer a question about evms for me?04:37
Chaotic_ShieldI have a question regarding laptop compatibility04:37
BurgundaviaChaotic_Reality, what sort of question?04:37
balzacDonL, I found this great app called FreeMind04:37
Chaotic_Reality:o04:37
Chaotic_Shielderm.04:37
Chaotic_ShieldO_O04:37
balzacthat's why i wanted java on linux04:37
DonLbalzac, I'll google it04:38
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balzacyou can use freemind as a file-browser04:38
Concord_Dawnhere04:38
n8lare there any good video editing programs that work with ubuntu?04:38
Concord_DawnI'll switch my nick to make it easier for you04:38
jrattner1How do i install JAVA?04:38
balzacit creates nice file-trees of your directory structure04:38
Burgundaviajrattner1, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:38
juanejsudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.504:38
balzacbut i don't think you can use it to modify your directory structure04:38
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balzacits main purpose is mind-maps04:39
Concord_DawnBurgundavia, I was wondering why Ubuntu has a cow whenever I close my laptop lid04:39
Concord_Dawnit switches to a prompt, but the prompt doesn't respond to anything04:39
Concord_Dawnonly thing I can do is power off and then power on again.04:39
balzaci'm using it to organize my ideas, and linking to all my files from nodes in FreeMind04:39
XenguyConcord_Dawn: http://linux-laptop.net/04:39
BurgundaviaConcord_Dawn, laptop stuff is not completely shaken out yet. It is a big goal to improve it. File a bug about it04:39
Concord_Dawn:)04:39
Concord_Dawnthanks04:39
balzacthat's the direction I want to go with how I relate to my filesystem04:40
DonLConcord_Dawn, count yourself lucky. I like cows04:40
Concord_Dawnlol04:40
n8lare there any good video editing programs that work with ubuntu?04:40
balzacn8l, have you checked out Dyne-Bolic?04:40
johnnybezakn8l: video editing is a bit of a weak spot with linux atm04:40
BurgundaviaConcord_Dawn, ubutnu is very serious about laptop support. They are purchasing a bunch of laptops and distributing them to community members for testing04:40
balzacthat features some nice linux multimedia apps04:40
DonLbalzac, I'll take a look at it, but frankly, I have no problems with the file system management I'm using now04:41
johnnybezakn8l: have a look for kino/cinerella04:41
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iron_citadelWould I break anything if I disabled evms?04:41
Doomhammerhi guys04:41
johnnybezakn8l: and there is a new gstreamer one out too can't rememeber the name04:41
Doomhammeri've got a questoin04:41
DoomhammerI have an ATI Radeon 9800 PRO card04:41
direwolfis there anywhere to take a look at whats going to be added in breezy?04:41
Burgundavian8l, diva, but it is very new04:41
Doomhammerdoes fglrx work well enough to allow me to game on linux?04:41
BurgundaviaDoomhammer, yes04:41
lJlolelcan you make linux (like XFCE) work like the Mac OSX menu so that the icons get larger when the mouse scrolls over04:41
Linux_Galoren8l: lots of projects ->  http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=video+edit&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=004:41
BurgundaviaDoomhammer, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:42
balzacDonL, it's for mindmaps, primarily04:42
n8lthanks04:42
DonLbalzac, okay. I'll check it out04:42
Xenguyn8l: apt-cache search edit |grep video  ?04:42
Linux_GalorelJlolel: there is a KDE task bar thats does that called Kxdocker04:42
DoomhammerBurgundavia: thanks, i'll have to check that out -- before I re-installed to try out Debian, i tried for weeks to get UT2004 to work... couldn't get it running04:42
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BurgundaviaDoomhammer, np04:42
Linux_GalorelJlolel: animated icons the whole deal like the docker in OSX04:42
Linux_GalorelJlolel: www.kde-apps.org04:43
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lJlolelLinux_Galore,, i haven't actually used OSX, but that enlarging Icons seems cool04:43
balzacDonL, you know what can make a GUI more efficient? If you can pass from one side of the screen to the other04:43
Doomhammerhoary runs x.org by default, doesn't it?04:43
Linux_GalorelJlolel: yeah....gets old really fast though04:43
balzacsides and top & bottom04:43
lJlolelLinux_Galore, well it seems functional as well, no? Easy to read yet never in the way04:44
DonLbalzac, I've seen that, but for me I don't need it04:44
direwolfto mee its unnecessary and yeah, gets old quick04:44
DonLDoomhammer, yes04:44
balzaci don't either, but it's nice04:44
balzacDonL, do you program?04:44
Linux_GalorelJlolel: well the normal KDE kicker talk bar raises icons already when you do a mouse over and as of KDE 3.4 it opens a nice looking dialog box too... so does Gnome 2.12 now04:44
Linux_Galoretalk = task04:45
direwolfelizabethtown pa ...wheres that04:45
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lJlolelLinux_Galore, cool, 2.12 is coming out in september ?04:45
DonLdirewolf, me too. I like dancing icons for oh about five minutes04:45
DonLbalzac, Some people think I do. I don't04:45
Linux_GalorelJlolel: well ive got it already from cvs....but yes stable is in sept04:45
lJlolelnice04:45
lJlolelLinux_Galore, will breezy ship with 2.12?04:46
balzaci'm not a deep programmer myself. my friend tells me ruby is where it's at.04:46
balzacthat's what i'm going to focus on.04:46
Linux_GalorelJlolel: lots of fixes for problems many have being grumpy about04:46
direwolfhaha yeah you see it once n say to yourself "oh thats nice", after that its just annoying04:46
DonLdirewolf, That's it! lol04:46
Burgundaviabalzac, ruby or python are quite nice04:46
fr500lJlolel, enlightment dr17 looks similar too04:46
Linux_GalorelJlolel: Ive noticed the new versions of Gnome and KDE both are targeting user feedback on the desktop big time04:46
Doomhammerokay, so I installed fglrx, updated my x.org config file, and loaded the module with modprobe... do I still need to reboot?04:47
lJlolelthat's great, linux has seen a lot of improvement on the desktop from when i tried it last year04:47
balzacBurgundavia, i've heard good things about python as well, and it's ubiquitous among FOSS apps. It's the scripting language of Blender and Gimp.04:47
Linux_Galoreyeah I tried kxdocker.......hacked it up added some theme stuff then used it for a week and then went back tot the default taskbar04:48
direwolfi love xfce, few things would be nice though - desktop icons (native) and nautilus style file manager04:48
direwolfxffm is poopy04:48
direwolfimo04:48
DonLlJlolel, leaps and bounds I would say04:48
Linux_Galoredirewolf: XFCE is aimed at keeping it simple04:48
Burgundaviabalzac, there are very good gtk and qt binding for it04:48
Linux_Galoredirewolf: its not designed to be a fully functional desktop04:48
fr500what linux would you use in this scenario: i have a 486laptop with 8mb ram, 400mb hdd, wifi and ethernet, both pcmcia, i want to make an ap, i have several of such laptops, and i'm building a WAN with my friends using all that "garbage" equipement04:48
Linux_Galorefr500:  damn small linux04:49
Caynenewbie question - i am having trouble editing fstab to mount nfts...won't let me save it04:49
fr500Linux_Galore, i forgot: no cd-rom04:49
Linux_Galoredont laught thats the projects name04:49
direwolfi dont see how complicated it would make it to make a (imo) better file manager04:49
DoomhammerBurgundavia: I followed the directions and got it setup... do I need to reboot? it says I do, but AFAIK i can just restart the x server04:49
direwolfthe desktop icons - eh i could do without04:49
Linux_Galorefr500: they have a floppy variant network install plug you can do a debian install via the web with some floppies04:50
holycowfr500, ubuntu (if it installs) should be fine, you need to use a lightweight desktop like xfce tho04:50
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Linux_Galoreplus*04:50
holycowoh wait 8 mb ram?04:50
holycownm04:50
holycowyou won't get it to install on that04:50
fr500i guessed so04:50
holycowdamn small linux like someone else noted indeed :)04:50
BurgundaviaDoomhammer, you need to restart X04:50
DonLfr500, I would have to agree with Linux_Galore . DSL would be the best for you I think04:50
Linux_Galoreyeah damn small  is as about as basic as you can go with Linux04:50
BurgundaviaDoomhammer, log out and hit ctrl-alt-bksp04:50
fr500i hope it works04:51
LinuxJonesCayne, you need root priviliges... sudo gedit /etc/fstab04:51
fr500so many wasted laptops here awaiting04:51
Caynewill try ta04:51
balzacfr500, good luck04:51
DoomhammerBurgundavia: alright, thanks... brb04:51
jrattner1How do you install java from sypatic (it does not list it as a package) although i have the proper repositories04:51
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DonLfr500, that's very little hardware for anything nowadays04:51
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Linux_Galorelol I often find laptop thrown out as garbage..... got a nice PII in the garbage one day .....got of the bus and there it was sitting there on top of an old broken chair04:52
fr500DonL, i only need iproute2 and wireless tools b04:52
DonLjrattner1, go to the ubuntu wiki pages04:52
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lJlolelLinux_Galore, haha good deal04:52
lJlolelone man's trash..04:52
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jrattner1DonL, i followed those instructions04:52
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CayneLinuxJones I get command not found04:53
fr500DonL, got like 10of them, all exact the same models, recovered the wi-fi cards from linksys wet11s04:53
balzacI searched for what is the best notebook for linux04:53
Linux_Galoreyep ones mans trash becomes my Linux ASM chip burner04:53
balzaci'm wanting good hardware support04:53
balzacit seems IBM is where it's at04:53
LinuxJonesCayne, are you running gnome ?04:53
Caynekde04:53
DonLfr500, cool. You can make this happen!04:53
LinuxJonesCayne, ok substitue gedit with kedit04:53
Linux_GaloreIve loaded a few thousand asic chips now with firmware with the free laptop04:53
BurgundaviaCayne, make that kate04:53
Cayne:)04:53
fr500i hope04:54
balzacfr500, I had 3 g3 wallstreets lying around04:54
fr500well, sending them here is as expensive as aps+wets i think04:54
Linux_Galorethe thing eve had a built in 8x CDROm working fine......it had a broken windows 98 install on it04:54
balzacthey gave me too much problems, just from being so old and unstable04:54
LinuxJonesCayne, I am half drunk and haven't used kde for over a year, sorry if I gave you some incorrect info :)04:55
Linux_Galoreeven*04:55
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Doomhammerokay04:55
Caynenp...looking promising...cheers04:55
balzaci hope you have better luck. maybe these computers of yours are more robust04:55
Doomhammerso how do I verify that x.org is using the new driver and it's working properly?04:55
DonLLinux_Galore, Me too. Hope I don't lead too many people astray04:55
fr500hmmm04:55
fr500maybe not04:55
fr500but it's a fun project04:55
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balzacit's nice to add value to old hardware with fresh software04:56
redtechoops04:56
Linux_GaloreIve noticed you can pick up an IBM Thinkpad laptop cheap ie T21 T22 or even a T42 cheap and they work perfectly with ubuntu.....buddy of mine got a T21 for $12004:56
DoomhammerBurgundavia: i'm getting ~3000 FPS in glxgears... is that right?04:56
Chaotic_Realitywhat's the command to search apt-get for a certain package?04:56
balzacLinux_Galore, i'm on the lookout for deals like that04:56
Linux_Galorebalzac: ebay is full of them......corps are dumping them04:57
balzacMe and my nephew need to get notebooks. I've an old clunky gateway I can't stand.04:57
XenguyChaotic_Reality: dpkg -l pkgname*04:57
DoomhammerChaotic_Reality: apt-cache search <insert package name here>04:57
Chaotic_Realitythanks04:57
h08817how do u get bitorrent to work04:57
DonLbalzac, I was given an old P1 that couldn't even do Win 98, converted it to Linux. Slow but capable of browsing and e-mail. I can't give the thing away!04:58
Linux_Galorebalzac: T22 and T42 are very thing laptops and both have more than enough grunt for ubuntu04:58
h08817it asks for a meta file04:58
Linux_Galorethin*04:58
XenguyChaotic_Reality: actually, mine tells you whether the package is installed04:58
balzaccool04:58
Linux_Galorebalzac: and both support DVD's04:58
Linux_Galorebalzac: get them for US$200 easy04:58
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Linux_Galorebalzac: buildt like sherman tanks...but are thin04:59
Linux_Galorebuilt*04:59
h08817how do i use bitorrent it asks for a meta file04:59
Chaotic_Realitythanks Xenguy and Doomhammer.  Are either of you familiar with pidentd?04:59
fr500the net install part is a bit tricky, isn't there a chance of taking out the hd and installing the os in another pc? i have a laptop ide cable adaptor04:59
Linux_Galoreh08817: you usually download the file....I use azureus its way easier04:59
XenguyChaotic_Reality: I've only heard of it04:59
h08817azureus?05:00
Chaotic_Realityi just installed it. not sure what to do with it after that point. heh05:00
DoomhammerChaotic_Reality: never heard of it -- what does it do?05:00
Chaotic_Realityidentd for irc so you don't have the little ~ at the front of your name05:00
DonLwell I must go do family things. Thanks for the chat people05:00
Chaotic_Realityrequired on some irc networks05:00
DoomhammerChaotic_Reality: ah05:00
Linux_Galoreh08817: with azureus I just do a copy and paste the link from a bowser of the torren straight in, azureus looks after the rest05:01
h08817Linux_Galore, so i download that program?05:01
fr500Linux_Galore, the net install part is a bit tricky, isn't there a chance of taking out the hd and installing the os in another pc? i have a laptop ide cable adaptor05:01
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Linux_Galorehttp://azureus.org/05:02
Linux_Galorefr500: yeah should work05:02
balzacazureus is nice05:02
Linux_Galoreyeah best bt app ive used in ages05:02
Doomhammerokay guys05:02
DoomhammerUT2004 setup wants me to switch discs05:03
Doomhammerbut, "device is in use"05:03
Doomhammercan't unmount the CD ?05:03
h08817Linux_Galore, is it free?05:03
Linux_Galoreh08817: totally05:04
Linux_Galoreh08817: even has a load of plugins you can download and use like firefox for more functionality05:04
Linux_Galorelike firefox does"05:05
balzaci'm going to sell my gateway desktop replacement notebook and use the funds to get a thinkpad05:05
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watanabe88hello05:05
h08817Linux_Galore, doesn't look free to me05:05
watanabe88i am new to ubuntu05:05
jrattner1how do i change my hostname05:05
watanabe88i am trying to install limewire05:05
balzacwelcome watanabe8805:05
h08817Linux_Galore, it is asking me to pay money05:05
Linux_Galoreh08817: better not tell the author Ive been using it for ages without paying a dime05:05
Linux_Galoreh08817: its free05:06
watanabe88i followed directions in unofficial ubuntu starter guide05:06
h08817well how did u do it?05:06
balzacazureus is free05:06
watanabe88i have the icon in the applications05:06
Linux_Galoreh08817: thats a donation05:06
watanabe88however it doesnot start05:06
Linux_Galoreh08817: its optiona;05:06
jrattner1watanabe88, i just installed it a few minutes ago, you need to  install java too05:06
Linux_Galoreoptional05:06
watanabe88hello jrattner105:06
h08817no its membership options05:06
watanabe88how do install the java05:06
Burgundaviawatanabe88, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:07
watanabe88i went to JAva website to download05:07
jrattner1watanabe88, use the link Burgundavia provided05:07
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Linux_Galoreh08817: there the free page -> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/05:08
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Linux_Galoreh08817: sorry i sent you to the members page05:08
h08817its ok05:08
h08817now i just have to figure out how to install it05:09
h08817i am a noob05:09
balzaci have to add the extra repositories to get java - does that mean java is not on the ubuntu CD?05:09
seth_kthat's right05:09
h08817do i just do sudo apt-get and i don't kinow the rest05:09
jrattner1Anyone ever set up hotkeys via KHOTkeys05:09
socommbalzac: That's right. It's not included for legal reasons.05:09
balzacthanks05:09
Burgundaviabalzac, yes05:09
Burgundaviabalzac, Java is non-free05:09
balzactoo bad sun microsystems is doodoo05:09
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Linux_Galoreh08817: download it .....unpack it and them create a link from your desktop to the azureus binary file in the unpackged root directory....you can do it all as a user that way your more secure05:10
Linux_Galorethen*05:10
balzacscott mcnealy doesn't get it05:10
socommNo one gets it.05:10
h08817ok i am unpacking it now05:10
socommI being the exception of course. :^)05:10
socommBy the way you can get azureus via apt-get.05:11
Linux_Galorejrattner1: its built into kcontrol now you dont need an extra apps05:11
Linux_Galoreany*05:11
LinuxJonesbalzac, that's because MS told them not to get it :)05:11
balzacthose who get it know it. those who don't get it don't know they don't get it.05:11
Linux_Galoreh08817: make sure you have java installed05:11
socommYou need JRE.05:11
socommJRE 1.5 is recommended by the Azureus developers, if I remember correctly.05:12
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balzacyeah, MS is using imperial-style strategy to dely their inevitable demise05:12
Linux_Galoresocomm: Im still using 1.4.2 and it works fine with the latest version.....Im way of 1.5 i had way too much breakage05:13
jrattner1Linux_Galore, its very complicated, to set up hotkeys in kde i cant figure out why05:13
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Linux_Galorejrattner1: open kcontrol05:13
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Linux_Galorejrattner1: or just type it in the terminal  kcontrol [ENTER] 05:14
jrattner1Linux_Galore, i know where KHotkeys is i just cant get them to work05:14
Linux_Galorejrattner1: aaah05:14
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synnfestThis is the third time I've been in here for help....anybody else having any issues with Firefox?05:14
skapplewhat issues are you having?05:15
balzachere's a gripe - i had to compile a driver, and i needed additional tools installed to compile this driver. Does default ubuntu not install gcc?05:15
h08817Linux_Galore, what should i open the bin file with what program05:16
h08817i didn't extract it yet i just downloaded it05:16
synnfestIt completely hangs up on some pages.  I've noticed that it happens most on ad-intense pages (forums work without a problem), but on anything with a lot of ads, it locks up before the page finishes loading05:16
dedsvrdim having wireless problems05:16
Cayneanother newbie question...I cant find a sound utility to adjust sound on my laptop...is there one on synaptic that i missed?05:16
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balzacgoodnight05:17
dedsvrdi cant get my wireless card to work with ubuntu05:17
balzacbtw, synnfest, take your firefox errors to #firefox05:17
synnfestwhat kind of card?05:17
synnfestbalzac: thanks05:18
dedsvrdnetanywhere05:18
lJlolelexit05:18
lJlolelexit05:18
balzacactually, synnfest, the mozilla foundation has their own irc server05:18
watanabe88still having difficulty finding the sun-j2re1.505:18
balzacmy buddy Asa is the release engineer05:18
synnfestI think someone else was having issues on ubuntuforums.org with that, have you checked there?05:18
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dedsvrdnot yet but i can05:18
cafuegoWow, 'beagle' actually works once you disable inotify.05:18
balzache's probably familiar with your bug, but he's got to prioritize the bugs05:18
watanabe88using the synaptic package manager despite add the Hoary-extras repository05:18
dedsvrdnoob question05:19
nickrudcafuego, inotify in breezy?05:19
dedsvrdextracting things05:19
balzacsynnfest, i mean mozilla has their own irc network05:19
balzacyou can find their main project channels there05:19
cafuegonickrud: No, inofity must be DISABLED or beagle crashes.05:19
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nickrudcafuego, a kernel recompile then05:20
h08817Linux_Galore, i made a link but i can't open the file05:20
cafuegonickrud: it's happily indexing 4GB of mail now05:20
cafuegonickrud: yeah05:20
skapplethe tao of the machine.05:20
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cafuegoputting the sysload on 3, but eh05:20
skappleis there any way to make ubuntu load into root instead of as user *05:20
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cafuegoskapple: Yes. It's a VERY STUPID idea, though.05:21
h08817how do i extract a bin file05:21
cafuegoh08817: What bin file?05:21
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thenostradamusi am having trouble with ssh.......when trying to connect to my computer, it won't recognize my password05:22
thenostradamusit gives me the errer:Permission denied, please try again05:22
h08817i downloaded azureus05:22
nickrudcafuego, just no inotify, what about dnotify?05:22
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cafuegothenostradamus: Check the logs on your computer.05:22
Doomhammerthenostradamus: some SSH servers are configured by default not to allow root logins...?05:22
cafuegonickrud: I got no dnotify either05:22
thenostradamusnot as root05:23
cafuegonickrud: Isn't inotify supposed to repalce dnotify anyway?05:23
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nickrudyes05:23
thenostradamuscafuego, what logs?05:23
Doomhammerthenostradamus: if you're not trying to log in as root, check the logs05:23
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nickrudwhy I asked :)05:23
cafuegothenostradamus: syslog05:23
Doomhammerthenostradamus: look in /var/log05:23
thenostradamusok05:23
skapplecafuego: why ios it very dumb?05:23
cafuegoskapple: Running all software as root leaves you explosed to security holes. Any buggy app can modify any file on the system (kinda like Windows).05:23
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skapplecafuego: i do not necassarily want to login as root, i just want it to load into a console instead of Xwindows05:25
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dedsvrdi need help with extracting05:25
cafuegoskapple: There nothing you can't do by logging in as user and using sudo.05:25
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cafuegoskapple: By default or just once?05:26
cafuegoskapple: You can always hit ctrl-alt-F1 for a console.05:26
cafuegoskapple: If you enever want X to boot, disable gdm. (install rcconf, run rcconf)05:26
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jrattner1how do i change my hostname05:27
cafuegojrattner1: $EDITOR /etc/hostname05:27
jrattner1thanks05:27
cafuegojrattner1: And 'sudo hostname <newhostname>'05:28
cafuegothat will save you a reboot.05:28
cafuegoYou may also want to edit /etc/mailname05:28
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symex_linuxae galera so o mais novo entregante o ubuntu05:29
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hubsicould you plz talk english?05:30
desrthubsi; likewise.05:30
cafuegodesrt: Could you do the same then?05:30
cafuegoarrgh05:30
desrtcafuego; eh?05:30
cafuegodesrt: nevermind :-)05:30
desrt:)05:30
cafuegodesrt: I cross-eyed and retarded today.05:30
cafuegoI'm05:30
desrtstop trying :)05:30
symex_linuxpow algum brasileiro05:31
cafuego!br05:31
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues.05:31
symex_linux#ubuntu-br05:31
desrt/join #ubuntu-br05:31
thenostradamuscafuego, what am i looking for.......i don't see ssh05:31
symex_linuxtanks05:31
desrtno problem.  cheers.05:31
cafuego!br =~ s/portugues./portugues. Obrigado./05:31
ubotucafuego: OK05:31
cafuegothenostradamus: Check /var/log/auth.log also05:32
cafuegothenostradamus: Anything there?05:32
cafuegothenostradamus: Were you trying to ssh in as root?05:32
thenostradamusno, as a regular user05:32
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ilba7ron my notebook gnome default setting make all windows soo large. I want to reduce their size. Is there anyother way then reducing the font size and can i use reducing the font resolution to do that?05:33
hubsi1 question.. if i extract something.. with .. tar... <file> -C <path>.. and this dict. already exists... does this command overwrite it.. or copy the files in this dict.05:33
dbwhubsi: it will overwrite them, AFAIK05:35
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hubsibut there are other files in this dict.05:35
hubsiwhat can i do!?05:35
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dbwhubsi: if the same file is not in the tarball, then you're fine, it won't delete anything it doesnt' need to05:36
hubsino.. other files.. just same dict.05:36
dbwhubsi: or you can use the "-k" option, which will make it keep the existing files05:36
mwright1Where can I download breezy05:36
dbwhubsi: oh, then it's fine05:36
hubsiwhy do you want to install breezy05:36
dbwmwright1: google05:37
jrattner1is there a way to make grub use a graphical interface?05:37
hubsiit's not stable05:37
spiralis there any installation guide for qmail in ubuntu?05:37
dbwjrattner1: yes, but it's harder than you want to deal with05:37
dbwspiral: apt-get install qmail ??05:37
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jrattner1dbw, its not worth it?05:37
nickrudhubsi, but, it's not in uppercase anymore, and it's almost at the end of the topic :)05:37
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dbwjrattner1: well, think of it this way... how often do you see the boot screen?05:37
Doomhammerjrattner1: it's really not that hard... just remove the hide menu line in /boot/grub/grub.conf and download a bootsplash image... then add "bootsplash=something.xpm.gz" and you're good to go05:38
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dbwjrattner1: google grub bootsplash05:38
hubsiPlease don't use Breezy yet05:38
symex_linuxwho me of the one tip of as to install the SMBClient05:38
jrattner1thanx Doomhammer05:38
dbwsymex_linux: ??? what is your native language05:38
noisesmithI am trying to install ubuntu and need to install swap for the install to continue, on a laptop with no installed os05:39
noisesmithI cannot find fdisk or cfdisk or anything though05:39
symex_linuxface now q tou training my English05:39
hubsiis "tar -xzvf <file.tgz> -C <path/to/copy> right?05:40
Doomhammernoisesmith: ubuntu partitions the disk for you... i'm not sure what your probmem is?05:40
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dbwsymex_linux: es? br? cz? nl? de?05:40
jrattner1Doomhammer, does it matter what version of grub i have05:40
noisesmithdoomhammer: run out of ram before swap installation05:40
dbwjrattner1: nope05:40
hubsiseems fr05:41
Doomhammerjrattner1: nope05:41
dbwnoisesmith: use a livecd to partition it?05:41
Doomhammernoisesmith: ah... you need to download "The Ultimate Boot CD" -- it's got tons of tools, you should be able to create a linux swap partition05:41
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dbwsymex_linux: parlez vous francais?05:41
noisesmiththanks05:41
cafuegosymex_linux: 'apt-get install smbfs'05:41
dbwcafuego: is that what he was asking?05:41
cafuegodbw: From what i can tell, yes.05:42
cafuegodbw: He wants smbclient.05:42
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dbwcafuego: i thought he wanted to know who told him something about smbclient05:42
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dbwHUMANITY TO OTHERS *THAT*!05:43
cafuegodbw: Scuse me?05:43
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BigWingsproblema seu05:43
JoshRAHello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?05:43
=== cafuego is a non-native english speaker, thankyou.
jrattner1Doomhammer, i dont have a grub.conf file in /boot/grub05:43
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hubsikernal *loL*05:43
dbwcafuego: pretty much everyone is.  but i didn't say non-native, i said non-speakers05:43
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spiralhas anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet>05:44
Burgundaviadbw, please remember the ubuntu code of conduct05:44
spiral?05:44
fyhello all05:44
anders__morning05:44
hubsimuch to learn you have :P05:44
cafuegospiral: Most people would use postfix and not bother with unpackaged non-GPL software.05:44
dbwBurgundavia: it doesn't mention bats, dude :-\05:44
hubsiYODA ROX05:44
h08817i need a guide to installing bitorrent and what program i should use05:44
JoshRAAnyone?05:44
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fyim french i have a pb with my ibook g4, the sound dont work correctly,  :s sry for my bad english05:44
cafuegospiral: Any reason you think you need qmail?05:45
dbw!fr05:45
ubotu[fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais05:45
anders__some intrest to hear a radio running whit ubuntu05:45
fythx05:45
jrattner1Doomhammer, did you mean /boot/grub/menu.1st05:46
Doomhammerjrattner1: oh yea, sorry -- ubuntu uses a different file than other OS'es i've used05:46
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Doomhammerjrattner1: oh yea, sorry -- ubuntu uses a different file than other OS'es i've used05:46
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anders__chek this www.xboks.dk the site is english05:47
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spiralcafuego, yeah, from what I know it is the most secure mail server05:48
spiralcafuego, and is easier to install than sendmail.05:48
spiralcafuego - well that is what I have heard, and I have never installed it05:49
symex_linuxit has a person good of ubuntu to give msn to me hotmail05:50
hubsiwhats the command for rename?05:51
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anders__coffe time05:51
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JoshRAHello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?05:52
Doomhammerdoes anyone here play Unreal Tournament 2004 ?05:52
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mwright1I want to install breezy cause 5.04 is really nice, but we have FC4 boxes, and breezy compares becuase it has oo2.005:54
linfreaki just installed the base system on my other pc and when i run sudo apt-get install fluxbox it can't find the package05:54
linfreakandyone know why this might be happening?05:54
anders__aa no idear05:54
Doomhammerlinfreak: you need to enable the Ubuntu universal repositories05:54
linfreakhow do i do that in the terminal?05:55
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Doomhammeruh05:55
direwolfwhat was that about05:55
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Doomhammerlinfreak: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:55
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linfreakis there a wiki on that?05:55
Doomhammerlinfreak: yea, but i'm too lazy to find the link :P05:55
linfreaki'll take a look05:56
linfreakthanks05:56
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linfreakbut i can do that without having x-window system or any GUi right?05:56
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vader_Doomhammer, so am I lol05:56
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vader_it is almost bedtime05:56
ed1tlinfreak lol yea if u use lynx or wget and go thru html files05:57
ed1theh05:57
DoomhammerOMFG !!!!05:57
ed1ti dunno how u gonna do that05:57
DoomhammerUnreal Tournament 2004 worked on the first try!05:57
Doomhammerholy crap!05:57
Doomhammeri didn't even have to figure out how to get it to work!05:57
Doomhammerw00t!!!05:57
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linfreakl33t05:57
linfreak:p05:57
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Doomhammer:P05:57
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linfreaki really wish i hadn't done this now05:57
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Doomhammerlinfreak: what? installing ubuntu?05:58
linfreakthat wiki said nothing about enabling repositories05:58
linfreakthe base system, yeah05:58
ed1tlinfreak wat u tryin to do?05:58
Doomhammerlinfreak: oh alright... give me a minute, i'll throw my sources.list up on my webserver (ubuntu)05:58
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linfreakinstall afluxbox05:58
Doomhammered1t: he's trying to get fluxbox05:58
Doomhammerah! here ya go linfreak05:58
Doomhammerhttp://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t316051.html05:58
Doomhammerabout 2/3 down the page, you'll see a post by JonCooperUK05:59
Doomhammerhe tells you what to add to your sources.list05:59
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ed1tlinfreak sudo apt-get install fluxbox05:59
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h08817any help with bitorrent05:59
Doomhammered1t: he needs to enable the universal repositories05:59
linfreakright, how do i do that without a GUI?05:59
Doomhammerlinfreak: what editor do you like? VI? Nano?06:00
Doomhammerlinfreak: if you don't know, do this: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list06:00
direwolfnano /etc/apt/sources.list06:00
vader_gedit here lol06:00
DoomhammerCTRL+X is to save06:00
linfreakgedit, but i don't have that....06:00
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linfreakor do i?06:00
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linfreak:P06:00
ed1tlinfreak use nano then06:00
depravei'm bored, what can i install that's fun?06:00
linfreakokay06:00
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ed1tdeprave gnome!06:01
linfreakthe sasserworm on windows and then try to get rid of it06:01
anders__who can i installe my scanner??06:01
ed1tif u using KDE06:01
djcheezecakewow..alotta ppl in this room..i remember when only 10 used to show up. =P06:01
linfreakbrb, gonna try nano06:01
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h08817how can i install bitorrent it is asking for a metafile06:01
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direwolfazureus is better imo06:02
vader_h08817, no idea06:02
anders__na emule06:02
h08817well direwolf how do i install it06:02
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magnetoh08817 - sudo apt-get install bittorrent06:03
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magnetobtlaunchmanycurses > azureus06:03
linfreaknetfloods sucks here06:03
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linfreaknetsplit i mean06:04
deltabh08817: sounds like you already have it installed06:04
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yaaarword06:04
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magneto!word up06:05
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, magneto06:05
Doomhammerguys, for some reason there's no sound in UT200406:05
h08817magneto, how does that work06:05
Doomhammeri've had problems with XMMS as well...06:05
h08817?06:05
h08817deltab, i do06:05
djcheezecakedoomhammer: maybe you need to kill esd?06:05
h08817deltab, i do but i don't know how to fix it06:05
anders__cant you serch after bit torrnet?06:06
anders__in terminal06:07
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magnetoh08817: its part of bittorrent  - you just put your torrents in a directory and go to where you want em downloaded then run btlaunchmanycurses /some/dir/ --max_uploads 8   or osmething like that06:07
shadeofgreyhey guys06:07
shadeofgreyi need help06:07
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yaaaranybody know how i can get xscreensaver to use the screen as the image for screensavers to manipulate? i've tried the 'grab frames' checkbox, and also editing ~/.xscreensaver for it...06:08
magnetoh08817 - it uses wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less memory than azureus06:08
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shadeofgreywhen i first started using ubuntu i was on 2.5 something and now that things have moved to 2.6 -- someth9ing is wrong with the "accepted" procedure for installing my nvidia drivers06:08
h08817magneto, what does?06:08
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magnetohorr17: bittorrent does06:08
jbloudg20hey does anyone know how to specify to alsa which soundcard to use? I have my onboard, and a chaintec av710, and alsa is defaulting to onboard, or so I believe06:09
magnetoh08817: azureus is a memory hog06:09
h08817magneto, well how can i fix my problem of wanting a metafile can i just download a different program or can i fix mine?06:09
anders__sorry back again06:09
h08817i have the program that came with ubuntu06:09
djcheezecakeYES azureus is major memory hog..06:09
shadeofgreyif i use synaptic and follow the directions for installing the nvidia stuff, the aRchives copy okay but ....  the command to enable the drivers makes some mysterious changes to my xorg.conf file and makes the system totally unusable in anything butr text mode...  X11 wont even start after all the accepted updates06:09
djcheezecakeho8817: use either bittornado or gnome's bittorrent client..06:09
magnetoh08817: what is your exact error and when does it occur?06:09
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spiralhas anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?06:10
shadeofgreyanybody have any ideda how to make the nvidia stuff work properly under 2.6?06:10
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h08817magneto, i am running gnome BiTorrent and  it says open a location for bittorrent meta file06:10
jbloudg20any chaintec av710 users?06:11
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Alinuxsomeone alive06:11
Alinuxwho could help me?06:11
anders__yes06:11
magnetoits asking for  your torrent files06:11
AlinuxI need to create a script06:11
Alinuxboot script06:11
Alinuxvery simple06:12
Doomhammerwhy is the sound on my system very low quality?06:12
magnetothe files you download that tell the program what server to connect to and all that good stuff06:12
Doomhammeri changed it to high in the sound config, but it doesn't seem to have helped...06:12
Alinuxsomeone could help me?06:12
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djcheezecakeho8817: you need to specify the torrent file you're trying to access..06:12
h08817where is it located?06:12
h08817i just want to run bittorrent and download stuff why is it so complicated06:12
djcheezecakeho8817: wherever you decided to download you're torrent file....06:12
h08817i never downloaded one06:13
Doomhammerwhy is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?06:13
djcheezecakeho8817: you goto a website...download a torrent file of your choice...and then use that bittorrent client to download the actual file..06:13
h08817what torrent file do i choose and where do i get them?06:14
magnetoh08817: in order to download stuff you should go to a site and find torrent files - then open those files with bittorrent and you will download them06:14
magnetotry isohunt.com piratebay.com etc06:14
Doomhammerwhy is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?06:14
magnetoyou can download ubuntu like that too :)06:14
spiralhas anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?06:14
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vader_spiral, I only use evilution06:15
vader_evolution^^06:15
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Doomhammeri don't mean to repeat myself... but...06:15
Doomhammeri don't mean to repeat myself... but...06:15
Doomhammerwhy is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?06:15
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Doomhammerlol06:16
Doomhammerthat's not what I wanted to repeat :P06:16
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shadeofgreyhow do i update my ubuntu installation to the latest stable release using apt-get?06:17
Doomhammershadeofgrey: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade06:17
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Burgundaviashadeofgrey, how many menus do you have?06:17
vader_I am going to try and install thunderbird mail tomorrow here, it is like almost 12:30 here am06:17
Doomhammerwhy is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?06:17
shadeofgreyburg:  what do you mean how many menuss?06:18
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, if you have 3, you already have the latest stable06:18
vader_Doohammer, I only have gnome right now, I am of no help lol06:18
shadeofgreyburg:  version 3 of what?  the nvidia stuff?06:18
shadeofgreyor ubuntu in general?06:18
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, if you have 3 menus, you already have the latest stable06:19
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DekaPinkOkay, someone told me before, but now I can't remember... How do I stop Ubuntu from trying to sync with the clock server at startup, since it doesn't work? ^^ Unload the module or what have you.06:19
fy!fr06:19
ubotusomebody said fr was Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:19
Doomhammervader_ bah... on Gnome the sound was very quiet, even when I turned it all the way up... had to turn up my stereo, and thus it BLASTED my ears when I rebooted into winBlows06:19
djcheezecakeDekaPink: i just hit Ctrl + c to cancel ...06:19
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shadeofgreyis 2.6.10-5-386 the latest stable?06:20
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, yes06:20
vader_Doohammer, what are you using desktop or laptop?06:20
shadeofgreyokay thanks06:20
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Burgundaviashadeofgrey, the next stable is due for release in Oct 200506:20
Doomhammervader_: i'm using a desktop, with the onboard nForce 2 auto06:20
Doomhammeraudio*06:20
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, it will contain the 2.6.12 kernel and 2.12 gnome06:20
vader_hmmmmmm, I haven;t heard of probs, will look into it on Monday06:21
vader_I do it at work and it is considered research lol06:21
Doomhammerso it seems i can run ut2004 with no performance loss using fglrx... does that mean doom3 will work ?! :D06:21
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vader_you did say nforce2 right Doohammer?06:22
Doomhammervader_: yes, nForce 206:23
vader_ok, I have enailed myself a remineder06:23
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DekaPinkdjcheezecake: That... Doesn't make sense in regards to my question... I want to stop it from even trying to do it? :306:23
Doomhammervader_: the computer in the other room is also running an nForce 2 motherboard, but it's sound quality is fine under ubuntu (both running KDE)06:23
n8lalright I have a GeForce4 MX 4000. When I install it and boot up my computer it starts up godd n all but then its just blank after that. Help PLZ!06:23
djcheezecakeDekaPink: gotcha...06:23
djcheezecakeDekaPink: dont have an answer for you for that...i just do what i told you if sumthins actin up at boot06:24
DekaPinkdjcheezecake: Cool, well... Thanks anyway. :)06:24
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vader_Doohammer, I would compare the 2 files06:24
vader_side by each06:25
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anders__how come that i can't get my cano scan too workt?06:25
Doomhammervader: what files ? :S06:26
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vader_the sound files, are you using Alsa?06:26
vader_or esound or what??06:26
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OddAbe190000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000006:27
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OddAbe19sorry06:27
OddAbe19damn cat hit the 0 and enter06:27
OddAbe19when i moved him06:27
vader_lol06:28
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vader_Doohammer, look at this and I will return tomorrow http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21541.html06:29
anders__hello Loke Dk im from there too06:29
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anders__thos some no if there is a ubuntu danish chat rum some where ?06:32
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Doomhammervader_: i've tried all the sound libs that are installed, OSS, ALSA, eSound, etc06:35
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mkerbyI've got to get a bootable cd from an iso. What is a good proggie to do this in linux?06:39
black13i am interested in anyone who has experience with how xinit works06:39
Burgundaviamkerby, right click on it, and see if there is a write to disk option06:40
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mkerbyBurgundavia, will this give me a bootable image?06:43
black13xinit works but startx fails06:43
shadeofgreywhy does "apt-get install libdvdcss2 give me a no installatiojn candidate error?06:43
Burgundaviamkerby, yes06:43
cafuego!info libdvdcss206:43
cafuegoCoz it not in ubuntu proper.06:44
cafuego!find libdvdcss206:44
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mkerbyBurgundavia, thanks a bunch! I'll try it.06:44
shadeofgrey!info libdvdcss206:44
shadeofgreywhats the package name to install dvd playback cap[ability for totem then?  and mp3 and stuff?06:44
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, libdvdcss2 and it is in hoary-extras06:45
cafuego!restrictedformats06:45
ubotuhmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'06:45
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2' returned no results.06:45
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shadeofgreywhat are the lines to add hoary-extras to my sources.list file?06:45
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cafuego!find libdvdcss2 extras06:45
Burgundaviashadeofgrey, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:45
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ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2 extras' returned no results.06:46
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paxanyone care to paste their original (vosts stripped) /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ please06:49
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Ropyhey ya'll06:51
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paxnobody running apache2?06:52
paxhi Ropy06:52
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Ropyi just installed ubuntu and seeking some help06:53
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Burgundaviapax, likely, but this is quiet period06:53
paxjust ask Ropy06:53
BurgundaviaRopy, what do you need help with?06:53
RopyI dual booted with xp, my other HDs are NTFS06:54
Ropyhow can I see what's on them?06:54
Burgundavia!ntfs06:54
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab06:54
Burgundaviathat last link will mount them for you06:54
cafuegopax: I run apachge2. What's the problem?06:55
cafuegopax: Hmm, I don't think I astill have the original.06:55
cafuegoahaa! default.dpkg-dist :-)06:55
paxcafuego: np mate, cheers06:55
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Ropyhow, went there and just saw some code....06:56
paxcafuego: strip your info and post it somewhere if you dont mind06:56
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cafuegopax: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1013  (Note, it'sthe debian one)06:56
paxthanks cafuego06:57
seifeyo06:57
seifei downloaded the live cd06:57
seifeburnt it06:57
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seiferan it06:57
seifebut its not opening a weird file06:57
Ropyalso, how do I install files?06:57
Ropyor convert rpms to dpkg?06:57
seifeDunno, i cant get the live cd workin06:57
cafuegoRopy: What package specifically?06:57
paxcafuego: wep, that's the one. you rock06:57
Ropywant to install and app but it's in rpm06:58
Ropyand based on my undersanding ubuntu only supports dpkg06:58
cafuegoRopy: WHICH app06:59
cafuegoRopy: Changes are, it's available as .deb as well.06:59
Ropyxchat and wine06:59
cafuegoRopy: sudo apt-get install xchat wine07:00
cafuegoRopy: Make sure youy have the universe and multiverse repositories.07:00
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Ropyu lost me at the last part... I'm fairly new to nix07:01
cafuego!repos07:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:01
cafuegoRopy: Read that page; then start synaptic and install xchat and wine.07:01
black13what is the purpose of the /etc/X11/Xsession file07:02
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Ropyok, I'll do that07:02
Ropythanks for the help07:02
seifeits anyone helping me?07:03
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logical_markseife, just ask a question, somone will help you07:04
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djcheezecakei think he did...he mentioned something about live CD...07:04
djcheezecakehe can't get the live CD working..thats all i got from the log07:05
Madpilothi seife07:05
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djcheezecakeseife, that is..07:05
logical_markeither you didnt burn it as an image or you dont have the correct boot order on your comp07:06
logical_markis it messing up or not booting off the cd at all?07:06
Tarcastilhello, can anyone help me out with some trouble of getting dma working on a cdrom drive?07:06
cafuegoTarcastil: hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hdc07:06
spiralhas anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?07:06
cafuegoTarcastil: if that won't work, it's not going to.07:06
cafuegospiral: You still haven't explained why you think you need qmail when postfix works fine.07:07
Tarcastilcafuego: nope, it's a /dev/scd007:07
Tarcastilcafuego: and it doesn't work for some reason07:07
PM-aSeepinWhat's up, people07:07
cafuegoTarcastil: SCSI doesn't DO dma.07:07
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Tarcastilcafuego: does that mean dvds will all be choppy?07:08
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cafuegoTarcastil: No07:08
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Tarcastilcafuego: good :)07:08
guardianx3can someone help me log  see files that is on the windows network?07:08
Tarcastilcafuego: thanks07:08
cafuegoTarcastil: it will run at whatever speed it is; dma is an IDE thing that is normally on anyway, but soemtimes off if you have a badly supported IDE chip.07:08
guardianx3or point me to the information i had trouble looking for it on google07:09
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spiralcafuego, I did write that i have heard that qmail is more secure than postfix07:10
Chickenman_can an1 see me?07:10
cafuegospiral: That's complete nonsense.07:10
cafuegoChickenman_: we all can07:10
guardianx3how do u add a fav room into xchat? i would like to add this channel in xchat07:11
Chickenman_djcheezecake, my internet went down i am h0881707:11
jasmuzguardianx3: if you are using Xchat under Ubuntu its set as default07:11
cafuegospiral: just go with postfix. it fast, secure and _easy_ to set up.07:12
guardianx3how do i get to the default?07:12
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guardianx3is there a favorite option like mirc?07:12
BROKEN_LADDERis there anything like limewire that can be safely/effectively used in ubuntu?07:12
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BROKEN_LADDERi'm concerned that since it's not a deb package, limewire might muck up my system07:13
jasmuzBROKEN_LADDER: there is limewire for GNU/LINUX07:13
BROKEN_LADDERyup there is07:13
cafuegoDoes the Linux limewire also contain spyware?07:13
BROKEN_LADDERthe issue is just whether it's a good idea to install it.07:13
BROKEN_LADDERlol07:13
guardianx3how do i get files on my home pc .. the pc is in a windows network07:13
amichaihey guys. i feel my ubuntu has wlown down. anyway i can speed it up. hd is not fuller than has been. any tips?07:13
BROKEN_LADDERguardianx3 you could set up a samba share07:13
jasmuzBROKEN_LADDER: aMULE, gtk-gnutella, Apollon07:14
cafuegoguardianx3: Install and configure samba.07:14
BROKEN_LADDERjasmuz hey thanks!07:14
guardianx3broken- will u point me to how to set up samba share in unbuntu??07:14
jasmuzamichai: check if you have DMA enabled07:14
guardianx3samba is not already installed in unbunto?07:14
BROKEN_LADDERit should be installed yup.07:14
guardianx3how do i get it to work?07:15
BROKEN_LADDERguardianx3 you should be able to go into nautilus and type in a share address, or search for local shares07:15
guardianx3i'm sorry i'm newb to linux07:15
BROKEN_LADDERare you wanting to search from the linux box for a share on the windows machine?07:15
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BROKEN_LADDERor share from your linux box?07:15
paxguardianx3: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129315&postcount=107:15
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BROKEN_LADDERsetting it up isn't too complicated if you follow a howto, but i think there's probably some gui app that can make it easy for you.07:15
amichaijasmuz: hdparm?07:16
jasmuzamichai: yea07:16
guardianx3broken- i have trouble finding the gui tut  on goggle i dont know what is the best search keyword to use07:16
paxwep, use SWAT it's crap but can get you going07:16
pax!swat07:16
ubotuhmm... swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html07:16
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amichaijasmuz: how do i find out if my hd is hda or hdb?07:17
Imsdlei stuffed up when setting up firebirdcs.. now i want to reinstall it but i dn't want to have redownload it07:17
Imsdlehow do you remove somehting and reinstall it without having to apt-get install and dowload the files again?07:17
Chaotic_Realityanyone had success setting up the ati control and getting their external monitor to work?07:18
guardianx3the window pc with files is ip 10.3.1.100 how do i get the files???the workgroup name  is = goku07:19
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jasmuzamichai: probably you installed into hda07:20
deltabImsdle: you should be able to find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives/07:20
Imsdleok07:20
deltabImsdle: dpkg -r then dpkg -i, I think07:21
Imsdlethanks07:21
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BROKEN_LADDERdoes bittorrent have the potential to be used like limewire?  where you don't have to create some seed file, post it on some site, etc?07:22
h08817djcheezecake, back07:22
Imsdlehow do u share a dailup internet connection in ubuntu07:23
jasmuzBROKEN_LADDER: bittorent is made for swapping BIG files07:23
jasmuzImsdle: what are you trying to share?07:24
jasmuzImsdle: internet via what do you want to share it07:24
BROKEN_LADDERjasmuz why would that make it bad for sharing small files?07:24
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jasmuzBROKEN_LADDER: i havent said its bad for small files, but it rocks on delivering a movie if you have a good speed07:25
BROKEN_LADDERright, but it sucks to use it to just share files07:27
BROKEN_LADDERdon't you have to do all this complicated stuff, like create a seed file, post it to a web site, etc?07:27
BROKEN_LADDERalthough i heard there is a trackerless version coming07:27
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crimsunnewer azureus versions automate much of that.07:27
Imsdlei want to be able to access the net from my network07:28
guardianx3 i dont understand this part of the tutorial... the code is (sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami`)     the acc on my unbun is (movie)  so i should replease the  'whoami' into  'movie'07:29
deltabImsdle: I don't know of a particularly convenient way to do that, but it's not hard to set up07:29
guardianx3replace07:29
black13what is the purpose of the Xsession script07:30
johnnybezakhey guys i just plugged a web cam in, anyone know how i can tell if it's recognised like a lsusb or something07:30
Imsdleoh ok..07:30
jasmuzjohnnybezak: unplug it07:30
deltabguardianx3: the grave accents around  `whoami`  tells the shell to execute the command  whoami  then replace the command by its output07:30
jasmuzjohnnybezak: open a terminal, type tail -f /var/log/messages , and plug it in now07:31
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deltabguardianx3: so if your username is guardianx the command will become  sudo smbpasswd -a guardianx07:31
guardianx3deltab - thank you07:32
cody_ubuntuI have a problem, I need to use 32bit gcc on 64bit ubuntu07:32
cody_ubuntuto compile my OS07:32
cody_ubuntuusing the 64bit gcc, my inline asm becomes worthless, and I don't feel like rewriting libc07:33
crimsuncody_ubuntu: so build a 32-bit chroot and compile it there, then copy it over.07:33
cody_ubuntuwhich would be done how?07:34
cody_ubuntuI've only been using linux for about 9 months07:34
crimsunsearch the wiki for debootstrap.07:34
cody_ubuntuk07:34
crimsunthere's also good documentation on the Debian web site in the developers' guide07:35
guardianx3delta do i type it in the shell promt?07:36
deltabtype what?07:37
spiralhi07:37
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spiralhow do I configure postfix to make it send mail from a particular username?  I.e. username@domainname.com07:38
cody_ubuntucrimsun, so what exactly does chroot do?07:38
crimsuncody_ubuntu: see chroot(8)07:38
cody_ubuntunah, I'll just man chroot07:39
crimsunthat's what chroot(8) is.07:39
deltabguardianx3: did you want to join a channel automatically in x-chat?07:39
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deltabspiral: send what mail?07:40
persiaCould someone please remind me where to report Universe bugs?07:40
crimsunpersia: malone.07:40
persiacrimsun: thanks07:40
crimsunpersia: (launchpad.net/malone)07:40
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guardianx3how do i install vlc into ubuntu??07:43
Di42loi tried this too07:43
Di42lodoesnt work :|07:43
Di42loi gets kind of error07:43
jasmuzguardianx3: sudo apt-get install vlc07:43
spiralcrimsun, new to postfix - apache is the user who will be sending the mail07:44
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spiralcrimsun, or I think the user is www-data07:44
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guardianx3jasmus when i type in the command u told me i get this error msg = E: Couldn't find package vlc07:45
crimsunspiral: you'll need to read the postfix docs. I'm not a MTA guru.07:45
crimsunan MTA, rather.07:45
jasmuzguardianx3: vlc - multimedia player for all audio and video formats07:46
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jasmuzguardianx3: do you have your Universe enabled?07:47
jason_guardianx3, you need to enable the universe repository07:47
spiralok07:47
jason_!tel guardianx3 about repositories07:47
ubotujason_: I give up, what is it?07:47
jason_!tell guardianx3 about repositories07:47
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bjweekshey!07:50
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jasmuz!ubotu repositories07:51
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:51
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starfishyanyone know what happened to xbase-clients on breezy?07:52
starfishyit should contain xev but doesn't07:52
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Ropydoes anyone know how to handle a tgz.gz file?07:55
Ropyi.e. how to install it etc...07:55
joolzdoes anyone know a gtkatalog substitute for hoary? preferrably one that imports gtkatalog db's07:55
joolzans will gtkatalog be back in breezy?07:56
starfishytgz.gz?07:56
joolzand07:56
starfishyid try to gunzip it and then tar xzf07:56
starfishybut i suspect its just a misnomer for a .tar.gz or .tgz file07:56
starfishygzipping a gzipped archive is kinda pointless07:56
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Ropywhy is that?>07:57
starfishybecause the gain in compression is just about zero by compressing a compressed file07:58
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cafuegothe added meta info actually makes it larger :-)07:58
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Ropyk... well I just want to install what's contained within the file07:59
cafuegoRopy: You're not adding home-compiled stuff to ubuntu, are you?07:59
Ropyno no07:59
Ropydono how to compile just yet08:00
Ropywhy u ask?08:00
cafuegoRopy: It's been a common theme this weekend.08:00
spiralhow do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?08:00
guardianx3how do i install vlc into my new ubuntu08:00
cafuegoRopy: You unpack the tarball using 'tar xfz foo.tar.gz'08:00
jasmuz!ubotu repositories08:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:01
guardianx3when i type sudo apt-get install vlc .. i get this error msg ( E: Couldn't find package vlc08:01
guardianx3 )08:01
Madpilotguardianx3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:01
guardianx3i read it but i dont get it08:01
guardianx3what do i do?08:01
djcheezecakewow...theres alot of repository issues tonite...08:02
Madpilotguardianx3: two of Ubuntu's repositories need to be enabled - Universe & Multiverse08:02
Syco54645i love url filter for ipcop08:02
Syco54645it rocks so much08:02
Syco54645i just updated the black list08:02
Madpilotguardianx3: the repos are where apt-get & Synaptic get the programs from08:02
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Madpilotdjcheezecake: lots of repos issues all the time, really...08:03
djcheezecakei can see that..08:03
djcheezecakesorry...was watchin tv at the same time...meant...i can believe that..08:04
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Chickenmanagain08:05
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Madpilotdjcheezecake: you might be interested in this: http://www.ubuntu.cc.com.au/pop.php08:05
ram_einsteincould someone suggest an automatic mass-jpeg resizer08:05
Madpilotit's a list of all ubotu's entries, sorted by usage...08:06
ram_einsteinI want to resize some jpegs all of the same size to the same standard size, doing it one-by-one seems tedious08:06
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hyphenatedram_einstein: that's what 'convert' is for. it's an imagemagick program08:06
guardianx3after i click the i check the * show disable software sorces*   in the repos and then enter the command  sudo apt-get install vlc .. i get this error msg ( E: Couldn't find package vlc08:07
djcheezecakeMadpilot: what is ubotu btw...is that a bot..?08:07
ram_einsteinhyphenated, imagemagik?08:07
Madpilot!ubotu08:07
ubotusomebody said ubotu was uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".08:07
hyphenatedram_einstein: I use it for resizing digital camera photos with a script like: for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 25% ${i} small/${i}; done08:07
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Madpilotguardianx3: see that URL I posted, it's got step-by-step instructions08:08
spiralhow do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?08:08
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djcheezecake!ubotu08:08
ubotuI heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".08:08
ram_einsteinhyphenated, convert doesn't seem to be installed08:08
djcheezecakeinteresting!08:08
Madpilotdjcheezecake: ... and useful! ;)08:08
spiral!ubotu add08:08
ubotuI guess add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets08:08
hyphenateddpkg -S $(which convert) => imagemagick: /usr/bin/convert08:09
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guardianx3madpilot - i followed the instruction and check the box . and so on. but it when i enter the get ap command for vlc it still say the same error08:09
hyphenatedram_einstein: apt-get install imagemagick08:09
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spiral!ubotu postfix08:09
ubotuspiral: Bugger all, i dunno08:09
ram_einsteinone sec hyphenated08:09
djcheezecakeso no references on ubuntuguide eh..? =P08:09
Madpilotguardianx3: if you're already in Synaptic, use that, not apt-get08:09
Madpilotguardianx3: you can't have Synaptic & apt-get running at the same time, they conflict08:09
guardianx3so what do i type? i'm sorry i'm 2 hrs old in linux and ubuntu08:10
Gatton!ubotu why does totem suck so much? ;)08:10
ubotuI haven't a clue, Gatton08:10
zaguari think08:10
Madpilotguardianx3: don't type anything. Use Synaptic and just search for vlc08:10
zaguarthat it;s its lack of features08:10
zaguaror use apt-get install gvlc08:10
zaguargvlc cause you use gnome08:10
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Madpilotzaguar: he's already got Syn running, might as well use that08:11
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cafuego!ping08:11
zaguarMadpilot: kk - didn't see08:11
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, cafuego.08:11
ram_einsteinthanks hyphenated, downloading imagemagick now08:11
zaguarMadpilot: But he should get gvlc08:11
cafuegothat's better08:11
zaguarMadpilot: not vlc cause it dosn't have gnome support IIRC08:11
Madpilotzaguar: probably - I was just trying to sort his Synaptic issues out. I just use Totem for vid, it's a great app! ;)08:12
guardianx3madpilot - i did a search for vlc and nothing show up08:12
guardianx3in the synaptic08:12
Gattontry wxvlc08:12
zaguarRepositories?08:12
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Madpilotguardianx3: it's in there. you need to get your repositories sorted out.08:12
Madpilot!info vlc08:12
zaguarDo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:12
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB08:12
crimsunzaguar: it does have gnome support. I compiled it with such.08:12
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cafuego!info libdvdcss208:13
Madpilotzaguar: he's already running Syn, all the repo stuff can be done there...08:13
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zaguarTrue08:13
ram_einsteinhyphenated, instead of 25%, can I give a standard size in pixels?08:13
Madpilot!info vlc08:13
zaguarMadpilot: I'll shut up :(08:13
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB08:13
Gattonbut old habits die hard. just used to editing sources.list08:13
hyphenatedram_einstein: you can do whatever the man page tells you is possible08:13
guardianx3honestly i jus dont see it ! do i have to download some package???08:14
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cafuego!find libdvdcss208:14
Madpilotzaguar: if you can advise about movie players, please do, but you're just confusing the issue WRT repos...08:14
Madpilotguardianx3: hit the Reload button in Synaptic - that updates all your repo lists08:14
zaguarMadpilot: Sorry mate08:14
cafuegoliar08:15
guardianx3when i hit the reload only 22 file get update08:15
guardianx3and there is no vlc to be found08:15
jasmuzguardianx3: im going to give you a step by step guide, ok08:15
ram_einsteinthanks hyphenated08:16
GattonMadpilot, why not have him paste his sources.list somewhere so we can look at it?08:16
guardianx3jasmuz- ok08:16
MadpilotGatton: was trying to do the CLI-free way, but evidently that isn't working! ;) want to walk guardianx3 thru that, please?08:17
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GattonMadpilot, well I agree CLI is a good last resort. I assume he added repositories through Synaptic? If so just wondered if something got screwed up in the formatting or something. Although it shouldn't08:18
jasmuzGatton: im taking care of it08:19
MadpilotGatton: apparently he followed the wiki repos page, which is entirely based on Synaptic, so I'm not sure what's going wrong.08:19
Gattonjasmuz, ok cool08:19
Madpilotjasmuz: thanks08:19
guardianx3k08:20
GattonMadpilot, oh ok. Yea because I get 23 packages when I search on vlc08:20
asdhow can i restore the mbr?08:20
zaguarasd: what happened?08:21
asdcloned a disk...08:21
starfishyare you going to install a boot manager?08:21
asdyes08:21
starfishyif so, just install it and it will fix the problem08:21
asdhow?08:22
guardianx3gatton - oh i get only 22 package when i hit the reload button08:22
starfishyif you are installing lilo, edit lilo.conf, then run lilo08:22
guardianx3maybe that is why i dont see the vlc package08:22
Gattonguardianx3, and you get 0 when you search on vlc?08:22
starfishyif you install grub, run grub-install08:22
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asdbut i cant boot from the hd08:23
ram_einsteinwhat is the trash folder? how do I access it from console?08:23
guardianx3gatton- yes i get o when i search for vlc08:23
MadpilotGatton: same here, and I just had a look at the wiki page, and it works08:23
asdthe mbr is broken08:23
guardianx3do i have to reboot for the repos to take into effect?08:23
Gattonnope08:24
Gattonjust reload should do the trick08:24
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ram_einsteinwhat is the trash folder? how do I access it from console?08:24
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spiralhow do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?08:24
fr500hello08:24
holycowsudo apt-get update after you add repos08:24
starfishyboot from the CD and mount the hard disk partition as root08:24
Madpilotguardianx3: only one thing in Linux requires a reboot, and adjusting repos isn't it!08:24
Gattonhehe08:24
fr500do you know where to find a working tutorial for active directory integration in ubuntu?08:24
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PPC_Guycould the age of a dvd drive effect detection?08:25
holycowfr500, samba.org08:25
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starfishynot really, all dvd drives are either ATAPI or SCSI08:26
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starfishyif it is in working condition and the driver is available it should be detected fine08:26
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zaguarrameinstein: its /home/$user/.Trash08:27
sasyi_girlshai08:28
zaguarrameinstein: so go cd ~/.Trash08:28
fr500thx holycow08:28
n8lewisis there a way to run flash in ubuntu?08:28
Gatton!ubotu flash08:28
ubotuwell, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:28
PPC_GuyI get the error " there is no plugin to play this movie"08:29
n8lewisno I mean the flash editor08:29
n8lewislike flash MX08:29
guardianx3ok i got it working....... it was my fault i didnt read the end ...08:29
zaguarPPC_Guy: What's the movie type?08:29
PPC_GuyKing of the Hill DVD08:29
guardianx3i didnt check the universal thing08:29
Gattonn8lewis, not sure. you could try running it under Wine maybe08:29
PPC_Guynothing special or fancy08:29
guardianx3after i install vlc where is the program locate? how do i run it in gnome?08:29
zaguaryou got decss?08:30
PPC_Guytalking to me zaguar?08:30
zaguaryeah08:30
PPC_Guynope..08:30
Gattonguardianx3, mine is in Applications, Sound & Video08:30
PPC_Guyroot@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install decss08:30
PPC_GuyReading package lists... Done08:30
PPC_GuyBuilding dependency tree... Done08:30
PPC_GuyE: Couldn't find package decss08:30
HrdwrBoBlibdvdcss208:31
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MadpilotPPC_Guy: I think you want libdvdcss2?08:31
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PPC_Guyroot@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install libdvdcss208:32
PPC_GuyReading package lists... Done08:32
PPC_GuyBuilding dependency tree... Done08:32
PPC_GuyPackage libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:32
PPC_GuyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:32
PPC_Guyis only available from another source08:32
PPC_GuyE: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate08:32
PPC_Guysoorry guys didn't mean to offend anyone08:32
Gattonhehe08:32
MadpilotPPC_Guy: it does exist. check your sources list/repos08:33
PPC_Guywill do08:33
MadpilotGatton: whee, another repos question... ;)08:33
Gattoni think i might have got all that stuff the nerim repos08:33
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GattonMadpilot, that does seem to be the trend this evening :)08:33
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zaguarIt's in marillat repos IIRC08:33
MadpilotGatton: it's in one of the regular Ubuntu repos - just a sec08:33
epicenterI have a package that says it needs GTK+ 2.0, what package is this? libgtk-2.0-0 doesn't seem to do it....08:33
epicenterand I can't find anything called gtk+.08:33
Madpilotit's in backports/extras08:34
crimsunlibgtk2.0-dev08:34
zaguarepiccenter: if it clearlooks?08:34
zaguarcause you need the dev package08:34
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zaguarfor that08:34
linfreakhowdy08:34
Gattonevening08:34
PPC_Guyindeed08:35
epicenterahh08:35
linfreaki think i've reached a new low08:35
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highvoltagehello08:35
linfreakello08:35
linfreaki just bought an orkut invite off of ebay08:35
guardianx3gatton- yay it is working08:36
zaguarPPC_Guy:  Install the Automated script at the UbuntuForums08:36
crimsunubuntu-offtopic, please, linfreak.08:36
Gattonguardianx3, glad to hear it :)08:36
guardianx3horray08:36
guardianx31st time installing something in linux08:36
zaguarPPC_Guy:  wget http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup/ubuntusetup.sh08:36
Gattonguardianx3, i promise things usually go smoother ;)08:36
Madpilotguardianx3: it gets easier from now on!08:36
Gattonalthough there are always speed bumps08:36
zaguarPPC_Guy:  then sudo sh ubuntusetup.sh08:36
Gattonthe hardest part is getting everything working the first time. from then on it's pretty smooth sailing08:36
Gattonuntil you decide to buy a wireless card or something ;)08:37
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GattonOr try to get your Minolta printer to work :(08:37
MadpilotGatton: ah, wireless! if the gods had intended for linux users to use wireless, they wouldn't have invented Cat5 cable! ;)08:37
guardianx3my next question is....... i have a ti 200 nvdia card with tv out... how do i switch it to tv??08:38
GattonMadpilot, agreed. I am staying wired for the forseeable future08:38
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guardianx3on my winxp box i set it so when ever i press alt+1 it would switch to the tv.. and then switch back to monitor08:38
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barkleyTotem could not startup: resource is not available: what's that deal again?08:38
Madpilotguardianx3: do you have video drivers installed yet?08:39
Linux_ManIf there is any other repositories lost soul out there, query me....so i can give you the same step by step guide08:39
Madpilot!nvidia08:39
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:39
GattonBut if that's a special functionality of the Windows driver hmmmm08:40
barkleydo i need to change totem to oss or esd or what?08:40
Gattonguardianx3, did you have to assign that hot key? or that was the default?08:40
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barkleywith that resource busy problem08:40
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logical_markHey guys I am following instructions I foind online to mount an NFS partiotion and they are having me modify the /etc/fstab file, but it keep opening as read only. How do I open it under root?08:41
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LlukaXhi does anyone know how to get a usb wireless connection to work in ubuntu?08:41
Madpilotlogical_mark: add "sudo" to the front of whatever command line you're using08:41
barkleyso what's up with totem?08:41
hyphenatedlogical_mark: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig; sudo youreditor /etc/fstab08:42
Gattonlogical_mark, what he said. and remember to use your password08:42
barkleythe device resource busy business08:42
LlukaXalso it freezes at bootup " loading hotplug subsystem",i have to control c out08:43
znhHmmm, when Iam trying to play Enemy-Territory, it gives a input/output error while trying to nmap /dev/dsp - with XMMS it works fine08:43
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glickis enemy territory a game for linux?08:44
znhyes, it's native08:44
Tomcat_glick: It's cross platform08:45
glickTomcat_, a free game?08:45
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Tomcat_glick: Yes, free.08:45
glickhmm ima check it out08:45
glickthere a website?08:45
Madpilotglick: there's something in the Ubuntu wiki about it08:45
znhglick: learn how to google !08:45
jasmuzim out08:45
jasmuztake care guys08:45
znhso doesn't anyone know08:46
logical_markGOD I AM LOVING THIS LINUX SHIT!08:46
barkleyTotem could not startup: resource is not available: what's that deal again?08:46
glickwow08:46
glickhow can that be open source?08:46
logical_markI just got into linux and ubuntu was a huge help with getting past all the hardware troubles08:46
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znhglick: It is not08:46
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n8lewisYeah linux rox08:46
Madpilotglick: not sure it's open, but the US Army is giving it away...08:46
starfishyhehehe08:46
Tomcat_ET is not OS?08:46
parabolizelogical_mark, cool08:46
starfishymy first linux was kernel 0.98pl508:47
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glickit says this on the site08:47
glickGet Started and Download For Free (Open Source)08:47
znhTomcat_: there are binary's for linux, it isn't opensource - woulden't be safe anyway08:47
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starfishydownloaded 10 floppy disks :)08:47
LlukaXanyone have a similar problem with hotplug?08:47
glickhaha you have to register to play the game?08:47
Tomcat_znh: Well there are ways to stop cheaters and be open source... but it's harder. :P08:47
Madpilotglick: isn't ET online only08:47
Madpilot?08:47
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znhMadpilot: no, you can also play it on LAN :P08:48
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freddyyay!08:48
Tomcat_Madpilot: Playing it alone is possible but pointless. :)08:48
glickhaha i bet the game secretly sends your scores to the army and those with the best scores get put on the first draft list08:48
MadpilotOK, multi-player only, then...08:48
glickim very weary of anything the army gives away for free08:48
Tomcat_What does ET have to do with the army? :o08:48
barkleyso where's the totem page in ubuntuguide?08:48
parabolizeLlukaX, whats the nic?08:48
Madpilotglick: that's America's Army, not ET - I was mistaken08:48
glickah08:48
glickwho makes ET08:48
LlukaXno card08:48
LlukaXits a usb08:48
parabolizeya08:49
Tomcat_ET is a game of id Software/Activision/Splashdamage, it doesn't have anything to do with the army.08:49
LlukaXD-Link G-12008:49
LlukaXack08:49
glickand id made it open source?08:49
LlukaXDWL-G12008:49
barkleyq3 is not open source yet08:49
parabolizelooking up now08:49
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barkleybut somehow the GPL zealots don't bust Id or Epic08:50
barkleytypical groupthink08:50
guardianx3after i install the nvidia  driver in ubunto how do i switch it to the tv?08:50
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Madpilotbarkley: Id will open-source q3 when they release q4, I assume. q2 *is* open now08:50
stjepanheya08:50
stjepanI installed ubuntu08:51
stjepanwhere is grub config file?08:51
fr500/boot/grub?08:51
barkleyMadpilot, q3 gets opened up when the last licensor gets to a certain point of development08:51
guardianx3how do i switch from monitor view to tv-out ?08:51
glickthe game looks freakin amazing08:51
parabolizeLlukaX, well its not on the list at http://linux_wless.passys.nl but im still looking08:51
fr500what game?08:51
glickET08:51
barkleyMadpilot, how come the rabid gpl zealots don't demand that id or epic open up their engines from the beginning?08:51
fr500ET?08:51
barkleywhat is ET?08:51
glickEnemy Territory08:52
fr500the one based on wolf?08:52
fr500ok08:52
barkleyit's not an open engine08:52
glickits open source right?08:52
linfreakhow do i enable permissions to write and modify on a selected folder?08:52
barkleyit's on q308:52
Madpilotbarkley: because they've got better things to do?08:52
barkleyno08:52
barkleyET is based off of q3 which is not open source08:52
starfishylinfreak: chmod08:52
stjepanfr500: /boot/grub is a directory08:52
glickbarkley, but on the webstire look what it says where you download08:52
glickit says Get Started and Download For Free (Open Source)08:52
fr500stjepan, inside there, menu.lst i think08:52
starfishystjepan: /boot/grub/menu.lst08:52
fr500glick,, free and open source are diferent08:53
Madpilotcool game based on q2: http://www.ufoai.net/  <-- it runs in Ubuntu, too08:53
barkleywait a minute. what engine is enemy terrirotry based on?08:53
glickfr500, no it says "(open source)"08:53
fr500q3 i think, wolf 3d return to the castle08:53
fr500glick, ok08:53
barkleyfr500, yes08:53
barkleyand q3 is not open source yet08:53
fr500i know08:53
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barkleyso anybody know the answer to the classic totem problem of resource device busy or whatever08:54
guardianx3how do i make vlc  be the default movie player instead of the totem  ???08:54
barkleygod knows i should just stick to ubuntu and stop dicking around with these other distros08:55
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guardianx3agree with barkley08:55
stjepanfr500, starfishy: tnx08:55
fr500guardianx3, for each file type select open with or something, there is a way to select08:55
ram_einsteinhow do I rename *.JPG to *.jpg?08:55
ram_einsteinrename *.JPG *.jpg doesn't work08:55
barkleywhere is the wiki page for totem?08:55
highvoltageram_einstein: mv08:55
barkleywe've all had this problem08:56
barkleyor a lot of this08:56
parabolizeLlukaX, looks like you need to use ndiswraper. link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto08:56
ram_einsteinah thanks highvoltage08:56
barkleygodamn linux and the sound problems forever and forever08:56
LlukaXok08:56
ram_einsteinuh, highvoltage, how do I use it?08:56
guardianx3fr500 when i try that  i get an error msg saying coult not add application08:56
ram_einsteinmv *.JPG *.jpg doesn't work08:56
jtgameoverram_einstein,08:57
stjepanI use ndiswrapper08:57
crimsunbarkley: are you using esd?08:57
stjepanit is great08:57
jtgameoveryou have to write a script08:57
jtgameoveror08:57
Madpilotbarkley: apparently Breezy is going to have way better sound mngt08:57
stjepanok08:57
jtgameoverdo a one liner08:57
stjepantnx guys08:57
stjepansee you08:57
barkleycrimsun, i think that's the fscking problem. and i'm pissed08:57
fr500guardianx3, works for me, are u sure u typed the command the way it is?08:57
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ram_einsteinjtgameover, a one liner then08:57
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jtgameoverfor filename in *.JPG; do mv $filename.JPG $filename.jpg08:57
barkleyMadpilot, i'm in breezy. i should write this shit down when i change distros08:57
crimsunbarkley: calm down and ask the question intelligently. I can't read your mind.08:57
barkleycrimsum: i think it's the esd problem08:57
jtgameoverram_einstein, that may be wrong actually08:57
barkleyresource buys or not available08:58
ram_einsteinum, it comes up with a prompt jtgameover08:58
guardianx3fr500  what do u type ? i did it via gnome........ right click the file properties and so on08:58
fr500guardianx3, did you select open with?08:58
linfreaki can't figure out what to type after chmod in the terminal to enable the writes to write and modify08:58
crimsunbarkley: then you need to confirm it's the esd problem first. What is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink configured as?08:58
barkleylinux still has to get over this also transition hurdle08:58
LlukaXok08:58
jtgameoverram_einstein, gimme a sec08:58
barkleycrimsun, let me check. thanks for the help brother08:58
glickdamn i registered for it and its taking forever to get my damn confirmation email08:58
glickwtf08:58
fr500linfreak, chmod xxx filename08:58
ram_einsteinI modified it to for filename in *.JPG; do mv $filename.JPG $filename.jpg; done08:58
ram_einstein but it still doesn't work jtgameover08:58
linfreakwhat if it's a directory?08:59
fr500xxx=permissions for user, group, other i think08:59
fr500x's are octal numbres08:59
ram_einsteinlinfreak, chmod -R dirname08:59
jtgameoverram_einstein, yeah you gotta use basename08:59
jtgameoveri am trying it out myself first08:59
jtgameoverso i can tell you the right thing08:59
guardianx3fr500- i right click on the avi file and slelect " open with other app"08:59
ram_einsteinokay jtgameover08:59
barkleycrimsun, ok, we're making progress brother.  multi-media selector just locked up on me on the source input08:59
fr500ok08:59
fr500then there select other i think, i'm on windows now08:59
guardianx3then a list of app appear and i scroll down to vlc . and click add. then i get "couldnt add app "09:00
fr500and there you type the command for the app you want09:00
fr500guardianx3, oh, no clue then09:00
crimsunbarkley: Default Source is irrelevant. Default Sink is what we're concerned with.09:00
barkleycrimsun, ok, default source isn't giving me sounds09:00
fr500well gotta hit the track with the vette tomorrow, so i'm out09:00
ram_einsteinlinfreak, chmod *** -R dirname09:00
barkleycrimsum: the alsa sink did give me sound09:00
guardianx3how do i use the tv-out option in my nvidia card with ubuntu ??09:00
spiralhow do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?09:00
holycowhttp://devsec.sourceforge.net/  <-- neato09:01
crimsunbarkley: Do other gstreamer applications, such as Rhythmbox (Music Player), work?09:01
ram_einsteinjtgameover?09:01
Poromieshi all, anyone know any good 64bit games? just got my 3d-accel working :)09:01
fr500linfreak, you combine this values for the *s, 4 2 or 1, 4 for read access, 2 for write and 1 for access i think, so for everyones access you type chmod -R 777 dir09:01
barkleycrimsun, default sink of also is giving me sound09:01
glickcan i install ET so its a local user install and not a root install?09:01
jtgameoverhmm yeah09:01
barkleyalsa09:01
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jtgameoverram_einstein, are you familiar with a shell script09:01
fr500i don't advise 777 tho09:02
jtgameoveri am not good with these one-liners to do directly into a terminal09:02
fr500jtgameover, what u wanna do?09:02
linfreakfr500; and this will allow my non sudo user to write?09:02
jtgameoverfr500, he wants to rename all .JPG to .jpg09:02
fr500hmm, you want an script to rename, say all the files in one dir?09:03
barkleycrimsun, geez dude, how do i just play a .mp3. i've got multiverse and i think i imported the gstreamer plugin. rhythmbox is so freaking weird. i just want to play a damn .mp309:03
barkleycrimsun, i don't want to "import"09:03
fr500linfreak, 777 yes09:03
barkleylinux has such a ways to go in sound09:03
ram_einsteinjtgameover, I'll try09:03
barkleyi've been programming on linux for 8 years professionaly, and sound is still a mess09:03
jtgameoverram_einstein, try what?09:04
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jtgameoverare you familiar with shell scripts?09:04
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fr500i have sone scripts to load files with static routes execute command, do you want it, same principle should apply, just change the actual commands09:04
ram_einsteinno jtgameover09:04
crimsunbarkley: have you used gst-launch-0.8 to test the alsasink with an mp3?09:04
guardianx3which one do i download to install into my system so i can use the tv-out http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/09:04
fr500ie: instead of ip route add you would put rename09:05
linfreakthanks09:05
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fr500linfreak, you need to use sudo previous to chmod09:05
fr500bye everyone09:05
cafuego_barkley: It not Linux; there are other distros that happily include mp3 and dvd libs by default.09:05
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ram_einsteindamn jtgameover, I messed up my filenames bigtime experimenting09:05
glicki dont get it when i click on download, it opens up the file in the browser, when i right click on et-linux-2.60 and choose save as, it tries to save the php re-direct file09:06
glickwtf how the hell do you download it09:06
jtgameoverram_einstein, what'd you do09:06
Xyc0barkley: it is easy enough to install the pluins09:06
jtgameoveri can't help you undo it....09:06
ram_einsteinjtgameover, it's okay09:06
ram_einsteinyou tried to help atleast09:06
cafuego_glick: it probably tries to save et-2.60 as a file CALLED redirect.php09:06
jtgameoverram_einstein, one sec09:06
barkleycrimsun, let me check that out in synaptic. thanks for your help brother09:07
glickcafuego, modules.php09:07
jtgameover for filename in *.png; do name=`basename $filename .png`; mv $filename $name.PNG; done09:07
jtgameoverram_einstein, it's something along those lines09:07
f_newtonram_einstein, if you need to reinstall09:07
f_newtonand try to read before acting09:07
barkleyERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: empty pipeline not allowed.09:07
cafuego_for file in *.png; do mv $file $(basename $file .png).PNG; done09:08
f_newtonsave all them weird named jpgs to a cdrom09:08
crimsunbarkley: what syntax are you using?09:08
f_newtonwipe n reinstall09:08
glickcafuego, have you played the game?09:08
ram_einsteinokay jtgameover thanks09:08
barkleycrimsun, nothing passed to the commandline09:08
Xyc0What is the dev channel for ubuntu?09:08
ram_einsteinwhat f_newton ?09:08
crimsunXyc0: -devel09:09
barkleyXyc0, i installed all the plugins. that's not the problems09:09
crimsunbarkley: you need to use the correct parameters09:09
jtgameoverram_einstein, cafuego just gave you the answer09:09
f_newtonram_einstein, if you screwed up your filenames reinstall09:09
barkleycrimsun, k09:09
jtgameoveri was forgetting to do $( )09:09
Xyc0crimsun: thnx09:09
f_newtonits probably easier09:09
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crimsunbarkley: for instance, I'm testing successfully with: gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=/mnt/Documents\ and\ Settings/Administrator/My\ Documents/My\ Music/Lynne\ Arriale/Live\ At\ Montreux/01\ -\ Alone\ Together.flac ! spider ! alsasink09:09
f_newtonbut back up all those jpgs first09:09
ram_einsteindone f_newton09:10
barkleycrimsum: so i can just pass a directory with mp3s to it?09:10
f_newtontry to read a little about the os you use too09:10
f_newtonit does come in handy09:10
jtgameovercafuego, actually that doesn't work09:10
crimsunbarkley: pass a specific mp3 to it.09:10
barkleyk09:10
jtgameoverit still complains about the basename09:10
ram_einsteinhow do you rip just the filename from it's full name with extension?09:10
jtgameoverand too many arguments09:10
f_newtonI dont09:10
ram_einsteinjtgameover, the problem is to rip just the name of the file09:10
f_newtonall that is way too much work09:10
jtgameoverwhich doesn't make sense because when you do a simple "basename file.png .png" it works fine09:10
barkley** (process:24226): WARNING **: error: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting LINK09:10
barkleyERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: Unrecoverable syntax error while parsing pipeline lugradio-s02e22-010805-low.ogg09:10
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glickcan my shit handle ET?09:11
jtgameoverram_einstein, yeah, this would work in a shell script09:11
f_newtonI actually use my os as a work os09:11
f_newtonlol09:11
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jtgameoverram_einstein, you just don't wnat to do any "mv" until you're sure09:11
jtgameoverthat you have things right09:11
ram_einsteinjtgameover, fine, shell script thet09:11
crimsunbarkley: what precise syntax are you using?09:11
barkleycrimsun, hold on09:11
crimsunbrb, restarting X Window System09:11
barkleychris@lilbuntu:~$ gst-launch filesrc location=/home/chris/lugradio-s02e22-010805-low.ogg09:12
barkleyRUNNING pipeline ...09:12
barkleyExecution ended after 1 iterations (sum 24000 ns, average 24000 ns, min 24000 ns, max 24000 ns).09:12
barkleychris@lilbuntu:~$09:12
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guardianx3is there a way to enable the tv-out option on my nvida card so i cn watch movies on the tv???09:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamY!java09:13
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:13
Xyc0guardianx3: nvtv is a nice program for that09:13
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Xyc0guardianx3: look for it in synaptic to see if you can install it from there09:14
logical_markhey guys quick question from a newb - How do I login to ubuntu as the root user. I have tried at the login screen typing root and then the password but it tells me the username or password is wrong which I knwo it is not09:14
Xyc0logical_mark: you need to change the roots password09:14
Xyc0logical_mark: it is randomly generated at install09:15
logical_markXyc thanks. How do I do that?09:15
Xyc0System > Admin > Users09:15
crimsunbarkley: read the syntax I used carefully.09:15
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Xyc0logical_mark: you have to "show all users and groups"09:16
barkleycrimsun, got rhythmbox to work09:16
logical_markfound it thanks09:16
guardianx3xyc0 after i install the nvtv how do i access it??09:16
logical_marklater09:16
crimsunbarkley: now test with Totem09:16
spiralhas anyone installed postfix on ubuntu?09:16
Burgundaviaspiral, already installed by default09:17
Xyc0guardianx3: pretty sure it is nvtv in terminal09:17
BurgundaviaXyc0, actually, root is locked, no password at all09:17
barkleycrimsun, nahh. totem dies as usual09:17
spiralBurgundavia, it does not seem to be working for me with php09:17
barkleycrimsun, but thanks for your help09:17
barkleycrimsun09:18
Xyc0Burgundavia: you sure?  I could have sworn it was random numbers09:18
Burgundaviaspiral, it is locked to only listen to the localhost and only deliver to the admin email09:18
spiralBurgundavia, I want php/apache to use it to send email...what direction should I take?09:19
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Burgundaviaspiral, there are some nice postfix docs on the web. Let me see if I can dig one up for you09:20
glickanyone here play ET?09:20
spiralBurgundavia thanks, that would be great09:20
Burgundaviaspiral, http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html09:20
cafuego_Xyc0: it is not randomly generated, it is set to "disable login".09:20
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cafuego_spiral: You cnn just use mail() as documented in php after you install and set up postfix.09:21
Xyc0cafuego_: I know that you have to allow login through gdm, but I am talking about the password itself.09:21
holycowheh, heres a fun command for all of you that have nvidia / ati drivers properly installed with 3d acceleration: sudo apt-get install scorched3d09:21
cafuego_Xyc0: yes, the password field is set to "x", which means "no logins allowed".09:21
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holycow-_-09:22
ilba7rwhen i run evolution edit>prefrences the window is outside the visible area in my desktop is that normal?09:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmmm somethings not right here >.<09:22
Madpilotholycow: already did that, it's a great app!09:22
cafuego_holycow: broken on breezy :-)09:23
spiralcafuego, I have installed it, but it is not working... and I am using tha mail() function in phyp09:23
holycownot here :)09:23
holycowoh breezy, haaha!09:23
holycowindeedy :)09:23
cafuego_spiral: Does /usr/lib/sendmail exist?09:23
Burgundaviaholycow, it is very sad. I cannot blow my brother up (he is still sanely running hoary)09:23
f_newtonilba7r, yes it is.... maximize it and it will fit in your window09:24
cafuego_and nvidia seems to be not workign as of 2.6.13 :-)09:24
holycowhehe :) just found it, we need a gamers page on the ubuntu website09:24
Xyc0big game09:24
f_newtonhey I play freecell09:24
Burgundaviaholycow, feel free to start one09:24
Amaranthcafuego: Why must you run custom kernels? It makes me sad. :(09:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm i followed the java howto and how to add universe repos from that page i clicked reload and searched for "sun-j2re1.5 " but nothing shows what did i do wrong?09:24
cafuego_!find libwxgtk2.409:24
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libwxgtk2.4' (6 shown): libwxgtk2.4 ;; libwxgtk2.4-contrib ;; libwxgtk2.4-contrib-dev ;; libwxgtk2.4-dbg ;; libwxgtk2.4-dev ;; libwxgtk2.4-python.09:24
ilba7rf_newton is there any way we can fix that09:24
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FoamY, you need hoary-extras09:25
holycowBurgundavia, *smack* i forget its a wiki, righto09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYohhhhh09:25
Madpilotholycow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryGames09:25
f_newtonAmaranth, Thats a shame because that is one of the best ways to learn09:25
f_newtonand learning is just as important as accepting09:25
AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: Someone fscked up the Java wiki page so now the only way to get Java cleanly is to get it illegally.09:25
Burgundaviaholycow, UbuntuGaming sounds good09:25
spiralcafuego - yes /usr/lib/sendmail exists, and so does /usr/sbin/sendmail09:25
cafuego_illegally?09:25
holycowah there is a category, neat, thx Maddy09:25
holycowMadpilot, even09:25
cafuego_spiral: Is there anything logged in /var/log/mail.log after calling mail() ?09:26
spiralcafuego09:26
Burgundaviaholycow, link to the category for a full listing09:26
Amaranthcafuego_: Yeah, there is a reason Ubuntu doesn't ship Sun Java09:26
Madpilotholycow: np ;)09:26
Burgundaviaholycow, but a page is not a category and vice versa09:26
Amaranthcafuego_: It's illegal to do so.09:26
f_newtonilba7r, its been that way for many moons09:26
holycowBurgundavia, good point09:26
cafuego_Amaranth: Yes, but downloading and converting isn't illegal, is it?09:26
Amaranthno09:26
Burgundaviacafuego, you cannot redistribute it09:26
Amaranthbut the wiki doesn't show you how to do that anymore09:26
f_newtontry the sun site09:26
spiralcafuego - how do I have installed postfix, but do I need to compile something?09:26
Burgundaviacafuego, if you could, it would be in multiverse09:27
ilba7rf_newton lol i know i got rid of that problem by changing the font setting the problem i forgot how thanx for your help though09:27
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cafuego_Amaranth: Not that hard to make the wiki say "install java-package and read the docs"09:27
AmaranthThe wiki just shows you how to add hoary-extras to your sources.list, which is less than useless unless you don't care about these 'law' things.09:27
f_newtonilba7r, changing the font setting changed the window size?09:27
Burgundaviacafuego, the java page used to go into how to create your own java package09:28
cafuego_Ok, they removed it in favour of extras?09:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm ok i enabled all my repos except backports and still nothing >.<09:28
Burgundaviacafuego, but either a bug or my own stupidity killed it09:28
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Burgundaviacafuego, the old page that is09:28
ilba7rf_newton instead of the default 96dpi i changed it to about 75dpi where every thing was smaller and better for my laptop09:28
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit just dosen't show up in synaptic >.<09:28
cafuego_Burgundavia: Hmm, tasty back-ups ;-)09:28
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FoamY, see wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:28
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FoamY, see hoary-extras09:28
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glickhow is enemy territory?09:28
Lheaawesome :p09:29
logical_markHey guys. I just used Synaptic Package Manager to install Pure-FTP Server. I restarted gnome-panel but I still cant find the launcher for the program09:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes and i enabled them as well09:29
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Burgundavialogical_mark, it may not have it09:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYuseing the howto guide09:29
Burgundavialogical_mark, some programs don't09:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYi also get a whole bunch of errors as well09:29
PenguinOfDoomIs it possible to downgrade a Debian unstable libc to the Ubuntu package without uninstalling every single package on the system?09:29
f_newtonkewl I just repaired a laptop key09:29
logical_markBurg, how do I control it then?09:29
Burgundavialogical_mark, if it is a server, it is a probably a command-line thing09:30
logical_markI am new to linux so for now is there a less advanced FTP server I could use a GUI w09:30
logical_mark?09:30
cafuego_holycow: Ahaa! 32bit hoary chroot to teh rescue ;-)09:30
BurgundaviaPenguinOfDoom, probably not09:30
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f_newtonlet me see gftp is not a server09:30
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holycowcafuego, you clever bastard you :)09:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYYou Will Feel My Squrelly Rath >.<09:31
f_newtoncant remember what the ftp server is in linux09:31
ilba7rvsftp is good server09:31
Burgundavialogical_mark, you need an ftp server or client?09:31
ilba7ralso pftpd09:31
f_newtonthats it09:31
f_newton!09:31
ubotuf_newton: No idea09:31
cafuego_holycow: Still need to boot back into old kernel so 'nvidia' actually works09:31
Madpilotf_newton: no, gFTP is a pile of <censored>...09:31
logical_markserver Burg09:31
f_newtonduh forgot about the bot09:31
Burgundavialogical_mark, most servers on linux do not have guis for very good reasons09:31
f_newtonwell Madpilot there are about as many opinions about linux apps as there are apps09:31
spiralcafuego - how do I have installed postfix, but do I need to compile something?09:32
logical_markBurg, in that case which one would you reccomend me?09:32
cafuego_mainly because linux servers don't have GUIs, unless they happen to run Fedora09:32
Burgundaviaspiral, you have already got postfix installed, you just need to tweak the configuration09:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i have all of my repos enabled and updated universe , multivers and restricted what gives?09:32
ilba7rlogical_mark if it is for lan better use ssh its more secure09:32
Burgundavialogical_mark, no idea, I have never set up a ftp server09:32
Xyc0cafuego_: red hat enterprise you mean?09:32
Madpilotf_newton: true, but gFTP is the least usable GUI FTP client I've ever seen...09:32
ilba7rif you worry about security then vsftp09:32
spiralok09:32
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f_newtonwell I dont use any of them so... a lot I would know eh?09:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYwork damnnit09:32
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FoamY, if you have enabled hoary-extras, do a search for name and description, java09:32
cafuego_spiral: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" and answer its questions ... if you need a relay server etc, put those in.09:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk09:33
f_newtonChurcH_of_FoamY, you sound like my boss09:33
cafuego_Xyc0: Sorry, i just went blind when you said something...09:33
spiralBurgundavia - but I am trying to configure it...it is not working09:33
Raskallany suggestions of how I can type norwegian characters in breezy?09:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o09:33
f_newtonhoary extras has to be installed doesnt it?09:33
BurgundaviaRaskall, wait until the keyboard fixes hit09:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYno relation to your boss i'm actually better looking and not mean ^_^09:33
Burgundaviaf_newton, yes09:33
RaskallBurgundavia: what do you mean?09:33
Xyc0cafuego_: meaning you want me to repeat it or Red Hat makes you blind?09:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yea I'm not a moron either lol09:34
cafuego_AIYEE!!!!09:34
cafuego_Amaranth: make him stop!09:34
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BurgundaviaRaskall, currently non-english keyboards are totally borked09:34
Amaranth?09:34
RaskallBurgundavia: ok.09:34
logical_markilba7r, my friends and I rip DVDs and then when we meet up every week we use FTP to transfer them to each other. They use a windows ftp client so I dont want them to have to run another program just for me09:34
Xyc0he he he09:34
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RaskallBurgundavia: nice to know it's not my fault.09:34
ronybeckHi all09:34
Xyc0Fedora is a type of Hat09:34
Burgundavialogical_mark, why not just use sharing?09:34
BurgundaviaRaskall, yes09:34
Xyc0Fedoras can be red too09:34
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cafuego_Amaranth: </jk>09:35
ronybeckHas any one here got Ubuntu installed on a laptop with the Intel 915 chipset?09:35
Amaranthcafuego_: I'm not.09:35
ilba7rlogical_mark they can install filezilla it support ssh and has a really good GUI09:35
ronybeckI can't get the isntaller to work09:35
logical_markburgundavia, my friends think that pulling it from a shared folder is slower than FTP, which on windows it is09:35
Burgundavialogical_mark, shouldn't be09:35
f_newtonwhat is the error msg ronybeck ?09:35
ilba7rother wise look at ubuntu guide.org they show you how to set proftp there09:35
Burgundaviailba7r, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide09:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYok a big ol list of java stuf popd up which one do i actually want?09:36
ronybeckf_newton, It seems to lock up on starting PCMCIA services or when it tries to detect the network card09:36
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ilba7rburgundavia why? its really good09:36
f_newtonah09:36
Xyc0!ubuntuguide09:36
gorilla_!ubuntuguide09:36
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.09:36
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logical_markBurgundavia, also why? I have heard a lot od people say not to reccomend it but dont knwo why09:36
f_newtonis it one of those onboard intel thingys?09:36
gorilla_Xyc0, :-)09:36
ilba7rok ubotu will check it out09:37
Burgundavialogical_mark, see the above statement by ubotu09:37
ronybeckf_newton, yep.09:37
toniiwhere can I find the kernel source for Ubuntu? I need it for the nvidia driver. :)09:37
f_newtonitw2200 or something?09:37
logical_markBurgundavia, that is true. I have found that I am always asking myself why it is having me do what i am doing09:37
logical_markI would rather it teach me than tell me09:37
Burgundaviatonii, why not simply install the nvidia driver from the repos?09:37
crimsuntonii: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:37
ronybeckf_newton, 1925abg09:37
toniiBurgundavia: didn't know there was such option?09:37
toniifirst time i try Ubuntu09:37
f_newtonuh the source code better come with the os install09:38
ronybeckf_newton, 2915abg sorry09:38
Burgundaviatonii, see the link crimsun gave you, actually quite simple09:38
Burgundaviaf_newton, it must be avaible09:38
f_newtonwhats the first letters of it ronybeck09:38
Burgundaviaf_newton, not necessarily installed by default09:38
f_newtonit must accompany the software09:38
toniiBurgundavia: I will. :)09:38
Xyc0too bad ati cant be that easy09:38
logical_markBurgundavia, should I use Samba or NFS to setup sharing?09:38
crimsunf_newton: it doesn't come on the cd, but one can install it from pool.09:38
ronybeckipw09:38
Xyc0meh gnite all09:38
ronybeckf_newton, ipw09:38
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Burgundavialogical_mark, samba, if you have windows friends09:39
f_newtonyou have the right to modify, distribute, providing you INCLUDE it09:39
Burgundaviaf_newton, "If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code.09:39
Burgundavia4."09:39
f_newtonol09:39
f_newtonuh ok09:39
barkleycrimsun, thanks for your guidance, i at least got rhythmbox to play my 80s music:)09:40
logical_markBurgundavia, all my friends run windows. As a matter of fact the reasson I am trying to get into linux is b/c I want to get into network security and a lot of IT stuff. Everyone I talk to says Learn LInux and C09:40
ronybeckf_newton, any clues?09:40
logical_markbut so far I really like it09:40
barkleylogical_mark, you need both09:40
Burgundavialogical_mark, you can do network security on windows, it is not pretty (I have an MCP, for the record)09:40
logical_markbarkley, I need Samba and NFS?09:40
barkleylogical_mark, windows is increasing int he server market09:40
ilba7rok burgundavia i see the point there09:40
Burgundaviabarkley, both are growing09:41
barkleylogical_mark, zealots don't get hired09:41
f_newtonyeah there is a timeout issue with those wifi chipsets and the work around is available but I think you have install first09:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamY!java09:41
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:41
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logical_markbarkley, zealots?09:41
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logical_markBurgundavia, MCP?09:41
barkleylogical_mark, open source zealots09:41
f_newtonask Burgundavia or Amaranth they are very knowlegable09:41
ronybeckf_newton, yeah that doesn't help me though :-/09:41
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Burgundavialogical_mark, Microsoft Certified Professional (Windows 2000 server)09:41
f_newtonyes but the two I mentioned may be abel to09:41
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logical_markbarkley, sorry but I still dont understand. I have only been in the OSS community for, eh, 3 days09:42
barkleylogical_mark, i've been programming linux since '97 www.jbmelectronics.com09:42
barkleylogical_mark, i hate FSF zealots. not open source zealots09:42
Burgundavialogical_mark, knowledge of both is useful. You will get more money by doing linux stuff09:42
logical_markBurgundavia, I am still in high school guys so I have a lot of time to learn, but i like to be ahead09:42
logical_markbarkley, FSF?09:42
logical_markbear with me guys I am new to all this09:42
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Burgundavialogical_mark, Free Software Foundation. Basically started the whole Free Software/OSS thing09:43
barkleylogical: the Free Software Foundation....a socialist organization that was founded by the socialist Richard Stallman09:43
logical_markI will have to read up on them09:43
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guardianx3how do i make x-chat automatically join ubuntu channel when ever i connect to freenode???09:43
AmaranthThat'll be enough FUD for the night.09:43
MadpilotAmaranth: +q on barkley?09:44
guardianx3i'm getting tire of typing  /join #ubuntu09:44
logical_markI have taken C++, Java, and Visual Basic @ my high school so I can understand lanuages quickly09:44
radiodogguardianx3, go to the server list, double click on the freenode server you use, and you'll see that magic box you want.09:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYok anyone know how to install the stupid java crap from suns site?09:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlike an easy way to do it >.<09:44
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crimsunAmaranth: please direct them to #ubuntu-offtopic first as a warning.09:44
Burgundaviaguardianx3, when at the server dialog, simply choose the ubuntu servers option09:44
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logical_markBut the move from windows to linux us harder for me to wrap my mind around you know09:44
cafuego_Madpilot: he used "socialist" as if it was a dirty word09:44
barkleylet's be honest09:44
Amaranthcrimsun: your turn, i'm grouchy09:44
barkleythe FSF is a political organization09:44
barkleyand does not represent open source09:44
Burgundaviabarkley, yes it is, but it is a not a socialist one09:45
Amaranthcrimsun: and this channel pisses me off more every day, so yeah, i'll sleep now09:45
Madpilotcafuego: some people do. I think they're idiots for doing so, but there you go09:45
crimsunguys, remember #ubuntu-offtopic.09:45
crimsunyou're welcome to discuss non-support topics there.09:45
barkleyBurgundavia, let's goto offtopic09:45
Burgundavialogical_mark, to boil it down, the FSF don't like the term Open source09:45
logical_markwhere is the off topic?09:45
Burgundavia#ubuntu-offtopic09:45
crimsun/join #ubuntu-offtopic09:45
barkleyanybody that brings in FSF politics in here needs to be shown that the FSF doesn't represent open source09:46
f_newtoncafuego, if you'd seen the things ive seen you would think it a dirty word09:46
guardianx3radiodog - do i jus type unbuntu or  /join #ubuntu09:46
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logical_markjoin #ubuntu-offtopic09:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan someone help me to install java ubotu's howto sucks >.<09:46
Burgundavialogical_mark, assuming you are on x-chat, simply right click on that link and select join09:46
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, what is the problem?09:46
cafuego_ChurcH_of_FoamY: let me justf ix that factoid for you09:46
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guardianx3how do i make nvtv fit the whole tv when i switch  tv mode??09:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYjre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin <-----= i got this from suns website09:46
radiodogguardianx3, type #ubuntu09:47
guardianx3the whole tv screen09:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbut the howto that the wiki gives and the link dosen't look right to me09:47
_rayok.......i got it so xine is the default....and it works....but when i click on big movies it plays the mp3 file next in the list instead of the movie...if i right click and say open with xine it works fine09:47
_rayoops09:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe versions and the files seem to be diffrent09:47
_raysorry guys wrong room09:47
f_newtonlol09:47
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, so did you run that file?09:47
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radiodogChurcH_of_FoamY, chmod +x jre*.bin , ./jre*.bin , follow instructs?09:47
cafuego_f_newton: all of sweden is evil, eh09:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't even know how >.<09:47
ram_einsteinI want to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg09:47
ram_einsteinhow do I do it09:48
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, no prob I will show you09:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk09:48
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ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, just type this fist: chmod +x jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin09:48
guardianx3how do i make this pc(ubuntu ) see the files share on workgroup called goku ?09:48
f_newtoncafuego, socialism is a lure for selfish lazy men to gain control of poor working stiffs in the end you end up paying more taxes to the state and nothing gets done09:48
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, that will make the file executable09:48
guardianx3the goku network is windows09:49
cafuego_!tell ChurcH_of_FoamY -about java09:49
f_newtonbut that is really off topic09:49
ram_einsteinHow to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg09:49
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, Then type: ./jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin09:49
f_newtonI dont want to be dragged into that conversation09:49
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raven3x7is there a way to remove kde after installing it with "install Kubuntu-Desktop". removing that removes almost nothing.09:49
crimsunronybeck: do you know about 'java-package' from multiverse? It works with JRE/JDK 1.5.0, too.09:49
ram_einsteinHow to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg in the same directory? ofcourse not f_newton09:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYok it says no sutch file or dir09:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's right there on my desktop >.<09:50
ram_einsteinrename .jpg.jpg.jpg .jpg doesn't work09:50
f_newtonwhat are you on about ram_einstein ?09:50
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ilba7rraven3*7 search for all kde packages by synaptic and remove what you do not want09:50
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, you need to be in the directory that you downloaded the jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin file to09:50
jtgameoverram_einstein, you are back09:50
guardianx3how do i get files off my windows computer who is on a workgroup called (goku)09:50
ronybeckChurcH_of_FoamY, crimsun has a better idea though09:51
ram_einsteinI don't want to involve you f_newton09:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYi was09:51
jtgameoveri think i found a solution, but i gotta find it again09:51
ram_einsteinyes jtgameover09:51
raven3x7ilba7r, thats reallly not that easy09:51
ram_einsteinplease do09:51
ram_einsteinit's very important09:51
crimsunram_einstein: for i in *.jpg.jpg.jpg; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i"|sed s/.jpg.jpg.jpg/.jpg/`"; done09:51
f_newtonhey ram_einstein thats plenty fine with me.. I already told you I didnt do that stuff09:51
guardianx3 how do i get files off my windows computer who is on a workgroup called (goku)09:51
ram_einsteinthanks!!!!!!!!!!109:52
ram_einsteinthanks so much crimsun09:52
onkarshindeI am having problem with recording sound with Mic. Can anyone help me?09:52
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ilba7rraven3*7 the problem with apt-get or synaptic they do not remember what packages was dependent on kde that you installed. Thats why i prefer aptitude09:52
crimsunonkarshinde: what sound chipset? cat /proc/asound/modules09:52
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onkarshindecrimsun: 0 snd_via82xx09:53
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crimsunonkarshinde: have you selected the mic as the input (recording) device using alsamixer?09:53
raven3x7ilba7r, if i remove kubuntu-desktop with aptitude could that work?09:54
ilba7rraven3*7 if you installed it by aptitude it will otherwise no09:54
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ilba7rand kde and kubuntu-desktop are just dummy packages to install most kde packages that you need09:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYcafuego_ your a genius ^_^09:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow that was so absurdly simple you should replace the wikipage with that09:55
raven3x7hmm i might have. someone told me it had better dependency checking09:56
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raven3x7dawm didint work09:57
onkarshindecrimsun: I have opened alsamixer in capture mode. But how to enable mic?09:57
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crimsunonkarshinde: press space bar when the mic is active09:57
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glickhow come the sound doesnt work when i play enemy territory?09:58
znhLag: 2 second.. lol :-D09:58
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znhglick: I know a sollution09:58
linuxboyCan Ubuntu play 3gp files?09:58
glickznh, what?09:58
znhglick: gimme a sec, i'll search it again09:58
onkarshindecrimsun: Sorry, but i didn't get the meaning of mic is active09:58
glickthanks09:58
crimsunonkarshinde: scroll over to the mic selection, and press the space bar.09:59
glickactually the game only plays when i do esddsp et09:59
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcrimsun:  did you give me that neat howto for java?09:59
onkarshindecrimsun: It doesn't make a difference.09:59
glickbut when i just to et, it changes the resolution of the screen and there is a black screen and thats it09:59
znhglick: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22546.html09:59
znhglick: oh you are using gnome?09:59
crimsunglick: that's because (1) your sound card only supports one sound at a time, and (2) esd is hogging that sound device.09:59
glickznh, yes10:00
znhglick: disable gnomes sound server at System->Sound10:00
glickah10:00
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znhubotu: gnome is terrible10:00
ubotuokay, znh10:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey look at that it workes ^_^ YAY10:00
znh:-P10:00
znh!gnome10:00
ubotugnome is, like, terrible10:00
crimsunglick: you either have to (1) use esddsp et, or (2) stop esd by using esdctl or by pkill esd or System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable Sound server startup10:00
glickznh, disable the sound server then restart gnome?10:00
znhglick: not needed :-)10:00
arbirhow do i install the latest ogg vorbis encoder ?10:00
crimsunarbir: install 'vorbis-tools'10:01
arbircrimsun: it install 1.0.1 not the latest 1.1.110:01
crimsunarbir: Hoary doesn't have 1.1.1.10:01
arbiri have backports @ crimsun10:01
arbircrimsun: so tell me of a way to install 1.1.110:01
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crimsunarbir: then backports doesn't have 1.1.1. Caveat: I don't use backports.10:02
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crimsunarbir: grab the deb-src from Breezy and compile it.10:02
arbiri also need lame @ crimson10:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan Linux download podcasts?10:02
crimsunarbir: then look at debian-marillat10:02
arbirwhere can i get the source from ?10:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor my ipod10:02
znh!cedaga10:02
ubotuznh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:02
crimsunarbir: from pool.10:02
znh!cedega10:02
ubotuit has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega10:02
crimsunarbir: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/10:03
znh!wine10:03
arbirlet me take a look crimsun10:03
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crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: no idea. Was this 'java-package'?10:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'll show you10:03
onkarshindecrimsun: I did as you say. Still sound can't be recorded.10:03
crimsunonkarshinde: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:03
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onkarshindeOk10:04
arbircan i not use breezy as my repository and just get the vorbis?10:04
salutishello all10:04
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: no, I didn't, though I mentioned 'java-package' to someone.10:04
arbirhelo salutis10:04
crimsunarbir: no, you can't.10:05
arbiruh oh :-(10:05
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crimsunarbir: Breezy has newer dependencies that Hoary cannot satisfy.10:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok10:05
ballatitionhello all10:05
salutisballatition: hi10:05
arbirhmmm10:05
arbirand how do i get Lame ?10:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYso can Ubuntu use podcasts i use gktpod and it works fine but i don't know if it can use podcasts10:06
ballatitionI am kinda new to linux and need some help10:06
hyphenatedarbir: you copy the dorkiest kid you know. then you'll get lame10:06
crimsunarbir: it should be in multiverse.10:06
hyphenated(alternatively, try apt-get install lame)10:06
crimsun!info lame10:07
ubotulame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB10:07
onkarshindecrimsun: If I select Alsa for source in Multimedia Systems Selector and try to test then it gives me some test pipeline error..10:07
arbirapt-get -s install lame10:07
arbirReading package lists... Done10:07
arbirBuilding dependency tree... Done10:07
arbirPackage lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:07
arbirThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:07
crimsunonkarshinde: and if you choose esd?10:08
arbiris only available from another source10:08
znhubotu: samba provides filesharing with microsoft windows, for more information: http://www.samba.org10:08
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, znh10:08
arbirE: Package lame has no installation candidate10:08
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f_newtonarbir yer headed fer trouble10:08
crimsunarbir: please don't flood in this channel, thanks.10:08
znhubotu: samba is samba provides filesharing with microsoft windows, for more information: http://www.samba.org10:08
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, znh10:08
crimsunarbir: apt-cache policy lame10:08
crimsunarbir: paste in #flood10:08
arbirok crimson10:08
guardianxhow do u install samba????i couldnt follow along with this tut - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29 because  my general tab doesnt have the ( current network profile ) option10:09
onkarshindecrimsun: esd doesn't give any problem for any of source or sink.10:09
arbircrimsun: i pasted in flood10:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i make beep media player the default player for .mp3's?10:10
crimsunonkarshinde: ok, and have you configured the volumes correctly using the Volume Control?10:10
onkarshindecrimsun: Yes.10:10
crimsunarbir: you don't have multiverse enabled10:10
arbircrimsun: what must i do ?10:10
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LasseLguardianx, check the System > Administration > Shared Folders menu10:11
=== ChurcH_of_FoamY looks for media player that has visuals
crimsunarbir: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:11
arbirlet me check that crimsun10:11
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crimsunonkarshinde: did you paste your amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl?10:11
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dazjorzhello again :)10:12
ce_imoethii..10:12
salutishi10:12
dazjorzthis time I'm the one with linux problems :P10:12
ce_imoethiii juga10:12
dazjorzeuhh10:12
arbiri dont have a gui10:12
MadpilotChurcH_of_FoamY: you mean visualization stuff? dancing random stuff? Totem does that10:13
onkarshindecrimsun: Do you mean to capture all the console view of alsamixer?10:13
dazjorzinstallation keeps failing on the shitty machine i have here next to me10:13
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arbiri have ssh'ed into my machine which is far away10:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i know but it won't play the mp3's10:13
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dazjorzi fixed some problems in shell 2, where i did in /usr/bin # ln -s udpkg dpkg10:13
dazjorzthat worked10:13
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dazjorzbut i also have kernel installing problems10:13
arbiri have ssh'ed into my machine which is far away @ crimsun10:13
arbiri dont have a gui @ crimsun10:13
dazjorzand also problems with the Release file after I tried installing 2 times10:13
ce_imoethii..10:14
arbircan u tell me the link for multiverse @ crimsun ?10:14
ce_imoethii....pa khabar10:14
crimsunonkarshinde: no, type amixer, and paste its output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:14
MadpilotChurcH_of_FoamY: mine does just fine - check the Restricted formats stuff on  the wiki10:15
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crimsunarbir: did you read the wiki? You can use w3m.10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk10:15
ce_imoethi...kenalan dunxxxx] 10:15
sumahey ppl.... can somebody help me out pls.... i was trying to remove the network boot option so i ran: update-rc.d -f networking remove  ... it is removed but it takes around 15 minutes for gnome to load... any suggestions?10:15
crimsunsuma: oh my, you really didn't want to do that.10:16
guardianxis there an auto log in option in ubuntu?? i'm tire of typing the log/pw everytime i log into the pc10:16
djcheezecakeexit10:16
ce_imoetok10:16
arbiri dont get you at all @ crimsun10:16
sumacrimsun: what should i do :(10:16
crimsunsuma: at most, you could have removed the auto lines in /etc/network/interfaces, but DO NOT remove it for the loopback (lo).10:16
dazjorzGuardianw I think there is some option in the control panel of KDE10:16
onkarshindecrimsun: I did it.10:16
crimsunsuma: reverse your actions using update-rc.d10:16
crimsunonkarshinde: sec10:17
ce_imoethi....10:17
dazjorz ==> i've got problems with the installer, it tells me the mirrors release files aren't correct10:17
arbiris sleepy10:17
arbirhas to go now10:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to make beep-media-player the default player for mp3's in Ubuntu?10:17
sumacrimsun: update-rc.d networking defaults 35 (is the number 35? i says differently at other sites)10:17
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: To change the default app for a filetype - right click on an mp3 file in Nautilus (the file browser), select Properties and the Open With tab.10:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok10:18
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glickET is a pretty cool game10:18
ce_imoethiii....knalan duuunx....10:18
dazjorz          The installer tells me "Bad archive mirror" for both nl.archive.ubuntu.com HTTP and FTP10:18
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glickwhats the point of the esd?10:18
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: hopefully bmp is listed, otherwise you'll need to add it to the list10:18
glickwhy not have it off all the time?10:18
crimsunsuma: it's 40 on Breezy.10:18
glickwhat does the esd do?10:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok but i don't want to have to do that erverytime though is there a way to get it to just do it on regular clicking automaticly?10:19
=== dazjorz has installer errors and wants some attention please....???
ChurcH_of_FoamYand yea it's there10:19
dazjorz^^10:19
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dazjorzcomon ?10:20
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dazjorzMirror*10:20
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glickdo i need to run the esd ?10:20
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: whatever you set should stay until you change it again10:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok10:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm just getting the final tweaks done on my box10:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYand then i'm gonna try to burn my entire hard drive to dvd's to back it up10:22
crimsunonkarshinde: you need to deselect IEC958 as the recording device and mute it10:22
bimberiChurcH_of_FoamY: ha - you'll never finish tweaking :)10:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o10:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol10:22
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spiralwhy does apt-get remove postfix remove mysql and mutt as well?10:22
logical_markhey guys10:22
starfishyive been tweaking for more than 10 years :D10:22
=== ChurcH_of_FoamY installs limewire
logical_markI just used SPM to install KDE and now I dont know how to use it instead of gnome10:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe not stupid .RPM >.<10:23
onkarshindecrimsun: Done.10:23
onkarshindecrimsun: Should I try recording now?10:23
dazjorzlogical mark10:23
dazjorzwhen gnome starts10:23
dazjorzyou see some Service thingy10:23
dazjorzthat should be set to KDE10:23
dazjorzand also10:23
dazjorzyour default is not set to KDE, but i dont know how to do that manually, I myself got a question when I installed KDE10:24
dazjorzdisplay manager should be set to kdm10:24
crimsunonkarshinde: in alsamixer, using the recording view (F4), is mic selected and toggled on?10:24
dazjorz(sorry for multiple lines)10:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know this is probibly a bad question to ask but how do you install limewire cause i don't know of anything else that is p2p for Linux10:24
logical_markdazjorz let me restart and see what happens thanks10:25
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dazjorzChurch_of_Foamy: There is a KaZaA for Linux10:25
onkarshindecrimsun: Yes It is.10:25
dazjorzits console though10:25
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY: there are a bevy of p2p network clients for Linux; search the Ubuntu forum and Google10:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYkazza for Linux where?10:25
dazjorzGoogle10:25
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salutisChurch_of_Foamy: i using gtk-gnutella from respository. very good p2p program.10:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk10:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'll try that10:26
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raven3x7Kazaa sucks10:26
salutiskazaa is virus ..)10:27
dazjorz ==> How do I DHCP-configure my network when the DHCP server is at 192.168.1.254 not on 192.168.1.110:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm just looking for a really good p2p program and gtkpod diden't let me down so i'll try the gtk-gnutella10:27
dazjorz( -.- )10:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe it will work10:27
glickznh, Enemy Territory always downloads huge game data files when i connect to a server, will those fillup my disk?10:27
raven3x7ChurcH_of_FoamY, there are instructions for installing limewire in ubuntuguide10:28
crimsunglick: if you have very little free disk space, yes.10:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk10:28
salutisChurch_of_Foamy: gtk-gnutella is for my best client. many options and good interface. it connection with many p2p networks..10:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'd rather use "Linux Freindly" apps ^_^10:28
glickcrimsun, i have decent disk space, but each time i connect to a server it usually downloads 15+ megs10:28
PoromiesChurcH_of_FoamY: you know bittorrent right?10:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes10:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi love bittorrent10:29
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^10:29
onkarshindecrimsun: there?10:29
glickwhere can i delete those files?10:29
crimsunonkarshinde: yes?10:29
Poromieswell, put up azureus then and go10:29
hyphenatedglick: yeah, it drops them all in ~/.etwolf/etmain or ~/.etwolf/etpro or whichever10:29
hyphenatedglick: look for big .pk3 files in there.10:29
onkarshindecrimsun: Still the recording is not working.10:29
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persiadazjorz: You should not have to do anything special: DHCP should be configured through broadcast.10:30
crimsunonkarshinde: did you adjust the mic level?10:30
crimsunonkarshinde: also, check alsa.opensrc.org10:30
glickhyphenated, not the pak0-2 files though?10:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYme opens up gtk-gnutella and is both overwhelmed and stumped by the huge volume of info and options O_o10:30
hyphenatedglick: probably not10:30
onkarshindecrimsun: Is there anything like unlocking device or something?10:31
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dazjorzpersia: I can't download the release file from any server. But i'm sure that the same settings work at my own pc. The installation does not recognise the network card but I can use modprobe 3c509 to make it do that.10:31
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glickim surprised that the game isnt more popular than it is10:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYsalutis can you help me with gtk-gnutella?10:32
persiadazjorz: My apologies: I appear to have entered in the middle.  What sort of DHCP error are you getting?10:32
dazjorzpersia: Can't find any DHCP server. The DHCP server could be slow or the hardware isn't working10:33
dazjorzpersia: But other times it work just as it has to.10:33
persiadazjorz: And you know you have a working DHCP server on the network?10:34
hyphenatedglick: enemy territory? it was pretty big for a while, 2nd in the most played network games10:34
dazjorzpersia: I am now installing for like the fifth time. There is every time some error.10:34
hyphenatedglick: but there's nothing behind it but the modding community, which took time to catch up. so people lost interest10:34
dazjorzpersia: I should have. What is the DHCP port? I can check if its working then.10:34
crimsunonkarshinde: no, but your chipset may have particular quirks. Check the ALSA wiki.10:34
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glickthats too bad :(10:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYok gtk-gnutella i've made my judgement gtk-gnutella ROCKS!10:35
spiralhow do I change the password for sudo?10:35
dazjorzspiral: by changing the password for the root user10:36
glicki just wish that months ago when i asked if anyone new any cool games for linux they would have directed me to it10:36
spiraldazjorz, I tried that, and it did not work10:36
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raven3x7spiral change your user pass10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi use point2play for my games and it runs so far every game i have10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i got dosbox to run my old DOS games (altho i haven't figured out how to use it just yet >.<10:37
persiadazjorz: client port is 68, server port is 67.  I'm not that familiar with the install process, but I'm happy to work to solve DHCP issues.10:37
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spiralraven3x7 can you give me a specific command?10:38
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dazjorztelnet 192.168.1.254 67 gives me: Trying 192.168.1.254....10:38
persiaspiral: passwd10:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYum can k3b burn .mp3's to cd for use in cd-players10:39
spiralpersia I tried that...10:39
nightswimyes10:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there any tweaking to be done first?10:39
persiadazjorz: DHCP is a little more complicated than that: the client needs to send with the source address 0.0.0.0, and the desctination address 255.255.255.255 for anything to happen.  Does the output of `netstat -rn` show a line beginning 192.168.1.0?10:40
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dazjorzpersia: You mean on shell 2 ? I just restarted the PC, so first i'll try network config again10:40
tiglionabbitwhen I try to print newgrounds.com firefox crashes10:40
AmaranthDon't do that. :P10:40
tiglionabbitlol10:41
persiadazjorz: As I said, I'm not that familiar with the install process, but yes, from a standard shell, if the netstat utility is available.10:41
tiglionabbitI wanted to see what happens.  Well, it crashes every time10:41
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wickedpuppyhi guys ... i am about to buy a dvd writer and wondering if any of you got any advice?10:44
guardianxhow do i  make nvtv fit on the tv screen???10:44
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tiglionabbitwickedpuppy: get a hybrid cd/dvd rewritable one10:45
glickhey does anyone know what ports roadrunner internet blocks?10:45
wickedpuppyi thought all dvd writers also can write cd10:45
persiadazjorz: If netstat is not available, try `cat /proc/route`.  You'd be looking for a line starting 0001A8C0.10:45
wickedpuppyi mean ubuntu support for the dvd writers10:45
dazjorzpersia: Network is working now :) I think I did modprobe 3c509 a bit too late10:46
wickedpuppyany major brand that is not compitable with ubuntu ?10:46
tiglionabbitwickedpuppy: well, Ubuntu appears to support all of the dvd writers I've tried with it10:46
persiadazjorz: Excellent.  Good luck!10:46
tiglionabbitdoes anyone know where I can get a standalone flash player exe?10:46
guardianxis there a way to set auto log in in ubuntu??10:46
wickedpuppyah great great10:46
Madpilotwickedpuppy: I've got a Pioneer 109 if you're lookig for specific brand recommends - its worked flawlessly so far10:46
wickedpuppyah great10:46
wickedpuppythat will give me some ideas10:47
dazjorzpersia: Thanks for your help :)10:47
wickedpuppythanks guys10:47
dazjorz             sdl-config: Command not found10:47
dazjorz             where do I get it ?10:47
tiglionabbitdazjorz: use apt-file10:47
tiglionabbitto find out10:47
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guardianxcan i set up auto log in . in ubuntu??10:47
crimsundazjorz: libsdl1.2-dev10:48
tiglionabbitguardianx: yes you can.  System -> admin -> login screen setup10:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat's better Graveman or Gnomebaker or k3b ?10:48
tiglionabbitwait what the...10:48
tiglionabbitwhere did my "Login screen setup" button go?  It used to be there..  wtf10:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor burning mp3's10:48
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tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: no idea, try them all.  k3b looks cool though10:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYi used k3b but don't know if it can burn cd's for use in car and sterio players10:49
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY: I'd assume that as long as they're CD-Rs (not RW) they would work.  Go on, try it10:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYplus it gives me an error if i try to burn a cd too fast10:50
daxuzahello all10:50
raven3x7spiral sorry i went away from the keyboard. i dont really remember the command but you could use System > Administration > Users and Groups10:50
tiglionabbitthen don't burn too fast10:50
dazjorztiglionabbit: thanks10:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi can get 4x outta 52x on my burner >.<10:50
spiralraven3x7: I'm not the spiral who was there earlier... He took my nick...10:50
dazjorzcrimsun / tiglionabbit: apt-file: command not found10:51
raven3x7oh10:51
tiglionabbitspiral: registered it?10:51
tiglionabbitdazjorz: you'll have to get apt-file.  It's in universe10:51
tiglionabbit!info apt-file10:51
ubotuapt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 88 kB10:51
crimsundazjorz: I told you which package you need to install.10:51
spiraltiglionabbit: yes, my nick is registered... So I did a nickserv ghost on it10:51
dazjorzcrimsum / tiglionabbit: I've got apt-get but not apt-file.10:51
tiglionabbitah10:51
dazjorzwait i'm not root atm10:51
spiraldazjorz: apt-get install apt-file10:52
tiglionabbitdazjorz: it's a package.  But then again, I'm not sure it will find what you're looking for, sorry10:52
dazjorzeveryone: I did sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev and it worked too :)10:53
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dazjorzby the way, is DLL the same format as SO ? WINE uses DLL linked to SO files. Can I just rename a DLL to a SO ?10:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmmm k3b dosen't seem to like .wma files10:55
dazjorzcuz PCSX2 needs a PADWIN module. On the website it says that it works for Linux too. But after make, I just get a dll files10:55
jtgameoverwhat's a simple color-chooser program?10:55
dazjorzfile*10:55
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlooks like i'm gonna have to convert them to mp3 if i can figure out how >.<10:55
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guardianxhow do i  fit the whole screen in nvtv?? because when ever i use  movie doesnt fit in the whole screen... the movie becomes very big .. even tho i pic the small resolution  in nvtv10:58
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starfishywhy wouldnt it?11:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYit never has before with my old cd burner11:01
starfishydepends on both the burner and the media used11:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYit would crap out at anything abouve  4x11:01
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starfishy:)11:01
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwent out and bought a sony super drive11:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor dvd/cd/cd-rw/dvd-rw11:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthis is the first time i am using it in Linux though11:02
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi ripped it outta wifys computer (winsux box)11:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYand gaver her my old one11:03
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PurpleMotionHai, fsckers!11:04
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PurpleMotionthat was a BAD idea11:05
glickdamn its 5 am here perhaps i should head to bed sometime in the near future11:05
PurpleMotioni had more artifacts than a ninety year old museum curator11:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYroflmao11:05
PurpleMotionhey i found a flaw in foamy11:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere11:06
PurpleMotionin fan mail eight, he says he cant go back and change something because he doesnt have a time machine11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i cuaght that too11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYconflicts with yesterday mail11:07
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dazjorzJesus11:07
PurpleMotionbut in the owner, he and pillz-e go back in time and then we saw hitler and then we said hi and then we shot him in the head (but that never happened, okay)11:07
levanderUbuntu has a Hardware Compatibility List?11:07
dazjorzmy internet is going soooooooooooooo slow at the moment11:07
dazjorzwtf :S11:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYi ahven't seen that one i think11:07
PurpleMotionand yesterday mail is completely based around the time machine11:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i know11:07
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PurpleMotionreally? its hilarious11:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYgot the link?11:07
PurpleMotionoh my god there's a boogar on your butt11:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit's one i haven't seen O_o11:07
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=== ChurcH_of_FoamY drools
PurpleMotionhrmm11:08
PurpleMotiontell ya what11:08
PurpleMotioni have ALL of them11:08
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:08
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PurpleMotionI'll put them on a url for you, but you have to tell me when you're done getting them, cause i dont want to support the kind of traffic that a foamy archive would produce11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to put them on vcd for myself but don't know how to get them fromn the website to my computer yet in Linux >.<11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYok lol11:08
Kev0rIn a C-file, how do i run a linux command?11:08
PurpleMotionright click, save as11:09
bimberilevander: There's some info on the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport11:09
ishithey i need some urgent help on ubuntu11:09
ishitanyone there11:09
levanderbimberi: Great! I was really expecting there just to be nothing! I'll go check it out now.11:09
jfk303highvoltage, can I apt-get install  the open source .net implementation 'Mono'?11:09
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bimberi!info mono11:10
ubotumono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB11:10
acid2Hey, ermmm.. anybody good with makefiles?11:10
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bimberijfk303: there you go - you'll need to enable the universe repository11:10
acid2I wanted to know if there is a command similar to cd in it (because cd doesn't work)11:10
jfk303bimberi, I've got that11:11
highvoltagejfk303: why are you asking me? i keep my distance from anything .net as far as possible!11:11
acid2jfk303: what are the problems?11:11
acid2Im a mono lover :)11:11
highvoltageacid2: well, that's not my problem ;)11:11
acid2highvoltage: ummm ?11:11
PurpleMotionalright church, they're uploading11:11
levanderbimberi: that page is only about 75% complete, even as a version 1.0.  But it's a lot better start than what I expected...11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamY PurpleMotion ok pm me the url when you can11:12
PurpleMotionactually11:12
bimberijfk303: k11:12
PurpleMotionim gonna spit it out in the channel in case anyone else wants it...11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk11:12
jfk303highvoltage, i put 'hi' into xchat  automatically filled in you name11:12
jfk303soory11:12
PurpleMotionthen ill leave it up for 24 hours11:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwow11:13
bimberilevander: yes - it's more complete than (the initially more promising looking) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDatabase11:13
highvoltagejfk303: np11:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYp2p will never die screw you iraa and goberment winos11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYmuhahahaha11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYiraa=riaa11:14
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bimberilol (winos in particular)11:14
PurpleMotioni wouldnt have such a problem with them if they actually paid their artists11:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYtrue true11:15
PurpleMotion150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for /public_html/foamy/15_5MoreMinutes.swf11:15
PurpleMotiondamn its 5am11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYis that the link O_o11:15
PurpleMotioncheck this out11:15
PurpleMotionim going to bed11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYnoooooo11:15
PurpleMotionthere's 81 episodes11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:15
glickthey do pay their artists wtf u talkin about?11:15
PurpleMotionthey're uploading11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat's the link?11:15
PurpleMotionthe url is http://www.Daede.Com/foamy11:16
PurpleMotionthere are 2 number 80's11:16
PurpleMotionthe right order is 80_handmade.swf and 81_ff8.swf11:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx11:16
PurpleMotionanytime man11:16
PurpleMotionlike i said i been with foamy fromt he beginning11:16
PurpleMotioni have a foamy tattoo11:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust got hooked like 6 monthes ago11:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O awsome ^_^11:17
PurpleMotionand a two foot tall vinyl foamy ont he back windshield of my car11:17
PurpleMotionfoamy is my hero11:17
PurpleMotionya neo yuppie scumbags11:17
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PurpleMotionanyways11:18
PurpleMotionsleep, now, fsckers11:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnight11:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand thanx ^_^11:18
=== keikoz Bonjour
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dazjorzhow do I unrar RAR archives ?11:23
dazjorzit tells me PAD.rar isn't a RAR archive11:23
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levanderAnybody know what the /dev/sg* files are for?  I'm looking at a flash program for my DVD-RW that says I need /dev/sg* files.  I don't have them and don't know what they are.11:23
Burgundaviadazjorz, wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression11:23
dazjorzoh lol11:23
dazjorzit was a renamed tar file11:23
dazjorzsorry11:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYomg a 404 error >.<11:24
guardianxhow do i make the movies fit into the tv screen when i stich to tv out ???11:24
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand a permissions error NOOOooooo >.<11:24
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Seveasdazjorz, install unrar-nonfree11:24
Heijmendoes anyone know a program to rip a cd to mp3 or convert flac to mp3?11:24
HappyFoollevander: i think /dev/sg* are scsi devices; i can't remember the details11:24
levanderHappyFool: yeah, I remember something about that too.  I think you're right, but I'm not sure.11:25
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jfk303HiveChild, I have a broadband router, how can I adjust its settings? I think I need to find its ip, because it has a web based configuration thingy??11:26
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jfk303I have a broadband router, how can I adjust its settings? I think I need to find its ip, because it has a web based configuration thingy??11:26
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ubuntu_504_userhelp11:27
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ubuntu_504_useri want application for .rar11:29
starfishyhelp?11:29
starfishyunrar?11:29
ubuntu_504_useryes11:29
Burgundaviaubuntu_504_user, wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompressin11:29
Burgundaviaubuntu_504_user, wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression11:29
ubuntu_504_userthx11:29
starfishyrar 3.3011:30
starfishycomes with unrar11:30
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ubuntu_504_userwhat the command ? rar --help ?11:31
ubuntu_504_userto extract11:31
starfishyrar x file11:32
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ubuntu_504_userthx11:32
Poromiesif you have universe, then unrar-nonfree gives you broader support of archive and rar formats/versions11:32
ubuntu_504_userok11:33
ubuntu_504_useronce more, any body know billing application for internet cafe for ubuntu11:35
starfishyif you mean something like quickbooks, there are some linux alternatives11:35
dazjorzPCSX2: Segmentation fault11:35
dazjorzhelp!!11:36
starfishyi cant recommend one though11:36
starfishywhat is pcsx2?11:36
dazjorzPlayStation 2 emulator11:36
starfishyah11:36
starfishypre-beta I think11:36
dazjorzno11:36
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starfishywhat game are you trying to play with it?11:40
jfk303how can I find out y broadband routers ip?11:41
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starfishyits very likely 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.111:42
starfishybut your manual will surely tell you11:42
znhstarfishy: my default was 192.168.2.111:43
Cayne1newbie help with synaptic package manager please..trying to add a repository and the dialog box is different to those displayed while googling.. and when i enter via apt line..nothing happens? any suggestions11:43
znhor just write a bash script that pings a range of 1-255, if pings gives a signal of 0 display the working ip's11:43
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haroldEvening, all11:44
znhgood morning harold11:44
jtgameoverCayne1, what is your problem?11:45
HappyFoolCayne1: i presume you got as far as 'Settings -> Repositories' ?11:45
haroldznh: Morning11:45
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Cayne1yes11:45
znhharold: quite funny those timeszones11:45
HappyFoolCayne1: ok, now click 'Add'11:45
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Cayne1Happyfool...may i send you a screenshot11:46
HappyFoolCayne1: err, i'm on dial-up11:46
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haroldznh: Yes.  Actually, it's morning her, too, now that I think of it.11:46
HappyFoolCayne1: i'm running synaptic here too, so i'm sure we can manage11:46
jtgameoverCayne1, the easiest would be to close synaptic, and then edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file in sudo mode11:46
znhharold: lol :-P11:46
jtgameoverjust cut at paste the repos there11:47
jtgameoverbut i'd also recommend backing up sources.list first11:47
Cayne1jtgameover..cheers11:47
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jtgameoverhuh?11:48
jtgameoverso does that mean it worked?11:48
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HappyFool'cheers' has a multiple of means; presumably 'thanks', in this case ;)11:49
HappyFoolmeanings, even11:49
anacroncan you guys help me a bit, im trying to make wlan work with d-link dwl-510, i have once made it work with my another computer with ndiswrapper and modprobe, but now when i modprobe ndiswrapper it says that operation is not permitted, and im using sudo too, so what can be problem?11:49
znh!welcome11:50
ubotuit has been said that welcome is something from those weird humans - they never welcome me :-(!11:50
haroldanacron: Shouldn't you use madwifi?  That's the real deal...11:50
anacronharold: how does it work?11:50
Cayne1jtgameover....the main issue is that previously (prior to reinstall) when doing "setting > repositoriesi have had a completely different interface panel which looks exactly like onthis page http://www.debianuniverse.com/readonline/chapter/0611:50
Cayne1now i dont11:50
haroldanacron: madwifi is a driver; it's made for atheros-based pc cards like your D-link one there.11:50
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jtgameoverhmmm yeah11:51
anacronharold: is it linux driver or just an inf file?11:51
topyliHappyFool: no it doesn't. it always means "please drink to my health" :)11:51
harold!madwifi11:51
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, harold11:51
haroldanacron: it's a driver11:51
jtgameoverCayne1, you mean the repositories interface right?11:51
haroldanacron: Hmmm...one sec...11:51
Cayne1yes11:51
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jtgameoveryou mean the buttons are differnt and stuff?11:52
jtgameoveror the stuff displayed (info about repos)11:52
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anacroni don't have any expirience with linux drivers like that11:52
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anacronbut if it's wiki then there shouldn't be a problem11:52
haroldanacron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:52
Cayne1jtgameover.. stuff displayed11:52
sinfernocan i install multiple versions of cedega @ the same time, i cant get dark age running in cedega 4.4 but i read that it works in 4.011:52
jtgameoverCayne1, yes, that is what should happen11:53
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jtgameoveryou are telling synaptic to look in different places know11:53
jtgameoverif you do "refresh"11:53
jtgameoverit should start downloading the repos lists11:53
RangitotoI am looking for a linux distribution which can be installed easily on a Pentium II with 96 Mb RAM. Would you recommend Ubuntu or a different distro?11:54
HappyFoolthe wiki has warty synaptic screenshots, which are different from hoary's synaptic11:54
jtgameoverand then you should be good to go and start installing stuff11:54
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anacronharold: and what now, that's just a list of "working cards" how's that supposed to help me?11:54
jtgameoverand Cayne1 I never change my repos list using the synaptic interface11:54
haroldanacron: Sorry11:54
jtgameoveri just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file manually, much easier with cut and paste11:55
znh!human11:55
ubotusomebody said human was != me11:55
haroldanacron: Apparently madwifi is already installed on ubuntu; i had to compile it on my system because I have a Mac...11:55
haroldanacron: ...one sec...11:55
anacronharold: right...11:55
anacronharold: there's a 520 card, but i have 51011:55
haroldanacron: Try this: run modprobe ath_pci11:55
haroldanacron: Actually, sudo modprobe ath_pci11:56
anacronharold: yeah i did that11:56
haroldanacron: Any errors/messages/11:56
znhanyway does anyone know when GNOME 2 comes out, I heard rumors that it comes in christmas11:56
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haroldanacron: Any errors or messages?11:56
anacronharold: no, can you tell what's the name of that network choosing thing11:56
HappyFoolgnome 2?11:56
HappyFoolheh11:56
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znhyep11:56
HappyFoolwhat version of gnome are you using now?11:56
haroldanacron: iwconfig11:56
znhHappyFool: none :-)11:57
haroldanacron: Run iwconfig ath0 essid any11:57
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HappyFoolhoary has 2.10, i think breezy might have 2.1211:57
jtgameoveryeah11:57
jtgameoverthat'll be sweet11:57
znhHappyFool: then i'm slightly confused.. xD11:57
jtgameoverdoes anyone here use rox11:57
anacronharold: can we private chat?11:57
znhjtgameover: yea I rox :-P11:57
haroldanacron: Also run iwlist ath0 scan to make sure networks are showing up next to ath011:57
haroldanacron: Sure11:57
anacrongood11:58
jtgameoverznh is it easy to change the icon theme for roxx11:58
SeveasHappyFool, breezy will have 2.12, the gnome and ubuntu release cycles go hand-in-hand :)11:58
znhjtgameover: it was a joke :-)11:58
jtgameoveroh sweet11:58
harold211:58
znh:] 11:58
HappyFoolSeveas: yeah, i was wondering about that. seems awfully convenient ;)11:58
SeveasHappyFool, it's on purpose :)11:58
haroldAnyone know how to switch to private chat in irssi?11:58
znhharold: yeah, change with /window <id>11:59
Seveas /msg who-you-want-to-talk-to your text11:59
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=== HappyFool wants to try out a freedom toaster
znhSeveas: that lenght for nicknames aren't allowed11:59
jtgameoverCayne1, sorry about that11:59
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Seveasznh, nope :)11:59
jtgameoverznh, what was the secret11:59
Seveasmax length is 16 on freenode :)11:59
znhthen it's five characters above the allowed12:00
znh(whocares)12:00
Seveas*g*\12:01
jtgameoverznh, how do you easily change the icons12:01
jtgameoverin rox?12:01
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znhjtgameover: I don't know, I ment with "I rox", something like yeah, I do rock :-)12:01
znhSeveas: you've seen !gnome :-P?12:02
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jtgameoveroh lol12:02
jtgameover!gnome12:02
ubotuhmm... gnome is terrible12:02
xf_yo, can one run a stock standard 2.6.12 kernel on hoary without problems (as in, no custom patches needed)?12:02
jtgameover!kde12:02
HappyFoolheh12:02
Seveas!gnome12:03
starfishyxf: it does work12:03
Seveaswho added that?12:03
starfishybut some devices need extra patches, among others some wireless network cards12:03
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xf_right, what devices?12:03
xf_don't care about the wifi devices12:03
starfishyi just found out the hard way, that the ipw2100 driver doesn't compile with gcc4.012:03
starfishythen you should be ok12:03
xf_things like udev/devfs are already in the kernel?12:03
xf_ah, right12:03
xf_is there a list somewhere of the patches applied against ubuntu kernels?12:04
highvoltageipx2x00 are full of crap.12:04
xf_the source packages aren't terribly self explanatory unless i want to spend hours wading through code12:04
Seveasznh, the bot is not to be played with12:04
starfishyi agree, but they are still better than no WiFi at all12:05
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highvoltageSeveas: you sound like my mother12:05
znhSeveas: don't tell me :-)12:05
znh!tell Seveas about gnome12:05
znhhighvoltage: has seveas such a high voice o_O12:06
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CiRkiTwhen I try to launch firefox I get error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:09
CiRkiTI cant find the libgtk to apt-get12:09
AmaranthCiRkiT: breezy?12:09
xf_hmm, won't it require udev patches?12:09
dazjorzhello12:10
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dazjorzerm12:10
CiRkiTHmm?12:10
LlukaXhey all12:10
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CiRkiTHow can I install libgtk-x11 ?12:10
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LlukaXhas anyone had their system hang at boot at "starting hotplug subsystem" >12:10
dazjorzi'm getting the error "Invalid Release file: No entry for Main/~Release/Packages12:11
dazjorz"12:11
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dazjorz!tell dazjorz about releasefile12:11
dazjorz!tell dazjorz about release12:11
dazjorzdarn12:12
dazjorzsomeoen12:12
dazjorzSeveas ?12:12
dazjorzare you here ?12:12
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dazjorzComon12:14
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Seveasdazjorz, did you create your own repository?12:14
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dazjorzSeveas: Not that I know...12:15
dazjorzSeveas: I just chose the Dutch installation server... nl.archive.ubuntu.com12:15
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PM-aSeepinChurcH_of_FoamY:  i fixed the permissions on the repository.. everything under http://www.daede.com/foamy is now readable.. remember im only keeping the episodes online for 24 hours12:16
dazjorzSeveas: Private ?12:16
Seveasdazjorz, that actuallty is the same as the standard server :)12:16
Seveasdazjorz, ok12:16
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jtgameoverhow do you enable keyboard shortcuts in general?12:17
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jtgameoverrox says something about using an XSettings manager, i.e. gnome-settings-daemon12:17
jtgameoverwhich i already use12:17
synnfestI'm feeling more and more like I should've stayed with XP everytime I ask this (this makes 4 times in 24 hours in this chat alone), but does anyone know why firefox and epiphany lock up for no reason?12:17
jtgameoverbut i would like to enable keyboard shortcuts in general?12:17
dazjorzSeveas: Look at private plz12:17
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jtgameoversynnfest, what's the problem?12:18
jtgameoverhow does it "lock up:12:18
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Seveasdazjorz, please have some patience :)12:18
narimanhow do i install codes that work with "totem media player"?12:18
jtgameover!media12:18
ubotuNo idea, jtgameover12:18
jtgameover!restrictedformats12:18
uboturestrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'12:18
jtgameovernariman, go there12:18
anacroncan someone help me install wlan drivers via ssh or something, i can't get it work, if i modprobe ndiswrapper i get two errors and i can't get madwifi work either12:19
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jfk303what browser is the least demanding on system resources12:20
sJaMlynx, jfk30312:20
jfk303sJaM, is that text based?12:21
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sJaMjip12:21
Madpilot!chthulhu12:21
ubotuMadpilot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:21
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tiagohi every one12:22
Madpilotcthulhu12:22
Madpilot!cthulhu12:22
ubotuPh'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn, madpilot!12:22
tiagoi made a big boo boo and need some profesional help12:22
starfishywhat did you do?12:22
Madpilottiago: ask away12:22
starfishyrm -rf /    ?12:22
tiagowell i was running xp and ubuntu as a dual boot12:22
PM-aSeepinyeah it sucks when that happens12:23
tiagoand it was using grub to manage my partition12:23
Madpilotstarfishy: that doesn't actually work, except to screw up /home/$user  ;)12:23
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tiagothen i instaled windows vista beta 112:23
PM-aSeepinMadpilot:  it does too work (if you're root)12:23
PM-aSeepintiago:  pir812:23
PM-aSeepin:>12:23
tiagoxD12:23
MadpilotPM-aSeepin: sure, of if you append "sudo", but in either case you deserve it!12:23
starfishymadpilot: try it as root12:24
tiagoany way it stoped grbu from being my boot loader12:24
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starfishyor even better12:24
PM-aSeepintiago:  here's what you do12:24
MadpilotI never log in as root. there is no root account on this machine....12:24
PM-aSeepinput in the install cd12:24
PM-aSeepinreboot12:24
starfishyi never log in as root but there is a root account on my machine12:25
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anacronMadpilot: or is it that you don't know the password for it and use sudo instead12:25
starfishyand i daresay unless you deleted it on purpose there is one on your machine too12:25
PM-aSeepinat the boot: prompt, type: linux init=/bin/bash12:25
starfishywhich would break a lot of things12:25
Madpilothttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- will this work with Vista Beta? I assume so12:25
PM-aSeepinthat will drop you into a root shell12:25
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PM-aSeepinMadpilot:  yes, it will\12:25
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PM-aSeepindo what he just said12:26
tiagothanx guys12:26
anacronwhere can i paste my ndiswrapper error?12:26
tiagoi did some thing bad though12:26
Madpilot!paste12:26
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:26
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tiagoi used partition magic to set my root partition as the one to boot from... now it says no os12:26
tiagowont even let me use windows12:27
tiagowill this fix that too?12:27
starfishythat doesnt surprise me12:27
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dazjorz====> someone here ever uses pcsx2 ?12:27
tiagoyes... i have been a bad little n00b12:27
starfishyyou need to have a boot manager either in your MBR or in the root partition12:27
starfishythere is no other way12:27
PM-aSeepinbed12:28
PM-aSeepinnow12:28
PM-aSeeping'nite12:28
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dazjorzgoodnight12:28
PM-aSeepin(fsckers)12:28
tiagothanx mate... goodnight12:28
starfishyif you reinstall your boot manager you will be able to boot windows too12:28
tiagowhy doess windows hate linux so much it has to do this?12:28
tiagowhy does it allways have to be linux job to keep the peace?12:29
som1i got the nvidia-glx thingie, edited xorg.conf (yes, just like the readme said, tripple checked) and added it to /etc/modules. i cant start opengl and it worked before. any reason why?12:29
starfishygates hates everyone12:29
PM-aSeepinit doesnt.... it just doesnt take into account the possibility for a non-ms os ony our system12:29
starfishyhis revenge for being picked upon as a nerd in highschool12:29
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tiagobut his gotten laid now... cant he just let al that hatred go?12:29
starfishywindows doesn't take into account anything you don't pay Microsoft for12:30
PM-aSeepinexactly12:30
dazjorz===========> EVERYONE WHO EVER USED PCSX2, PLEASE PRIVATE ME!12:30
som1erm.. he's doing whatever a giant company would do when it sees a threat12:30
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Seveasdazjorz, stop shouting...12:30
dazjorzSeveas: Sorry but I need some attention for that12:30
som1do i need to add 'glx' on /etc/modules?12:30
starfishywell, a really smart company would at least make it look as if they are cooperating12:30
som1hint it worked before .. ?12:30
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PM-aSeepinno they wouldnt12:31
tiagoone would hope so12:31
anacroncan you guys help with wlan? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/101712:31
starfishyMicrosoft isnt that big because they are smart, but because they were in the right place in the right time12:31
PM-aSeepinname one really smart company in history that did that and stayed on top12:31
som1enough fighting as if u understand microsoft tactics12:31
som1starfishy its big because they were using the right tactic, until now12:31
Seveastiago,PM-aSeepin: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct12:31
som1look at every big company12:31
som1and find out how it became big12:31
som1of course they were at the right place, wouldve gotten no where12:31
PM-aSeepinpfffffffffft. im goin to bed12:31
som1but they keep up with that12:31
tiagoSeveas, what did i do wrong?12:32
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starfishyi better go to bed12:33
starfishynite everyone12:33
dazjorzgoodnight12:34
anacronhelp with the wlan? anyone?12:34
tiagogood night starfishy12:34
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ilba7ranacron what is your prob12:34
anacronhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/101712:34
dazjorz======> Someone here ever used pcsx2????? Please, i need only a little bit of help with it!!!12:34
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ilba7ranacron did you uninstall the old ndiswrapper12:36
som1do i need to add glx on /etc/moduels?12:36
narimanis there a way to "see" ntfs partitions?12:36
anacronilba7r: what do you mean by that?12:36
som1nariman mount -t ntfs12:36
dazjorz+o(12:36
som1or mount_ntfs12:36
narimanok, thanls12:36
ilba7ranacron you might have it already installed and configured wait i will give you a link to a howto12:36
narimansoml, where does it pop up after the command?12:37
=== dazjorz wants a little bit of help with pcsx2: "Segmentation fault"
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jtgameoverdoes anyone here use rox-filer?12:37
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asfrahi, can anybody tell me how to shift between kde and gnome? thanks12:39
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ilba7ranacron what is your output when you type ndiswrapper -l12:39
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sinfernodoes bzip usually take a really long time to unzip files12:39
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sinfernoor bunzip2 i should say12:39
tiagoexcuse me guys... i have been trying to follow that guide for recovering... and i have run into a problem12:39
dazjorzsinferno: That depends on the archive ^^12:40
deFryskasfra, coose kde or gnome with kdm/gdm12:40
raven3x7about k3b anyone?12:40
deFryskchoose#12:40
sinfernodazjorz, its like 300 megs and its taking forever12:40
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dazjorzsinferno: Yes, thats normal.12:40
sinfernodazjorz, i couldnt extract with file roller thing so i tired bunzip2 from terminal12:40
ilba7rasfara that in the login in screen under session12:40
tiagomy windows partition is set as hidden ntfs partition12:40
som1dazjorz repeats? or once12:40
sinfernodazjorz, i like went and made a sandwich and it was still extracting12:40
Madpilotdazjorz: spamming the group with requests to help isn't likely to work...12:40
Sconkokay i got a server remote hosted whits have installed Fedora Core 4 is there a way to remote reinstall it whit ubuntu?12:40
asfraok, thanks guys12:40
dazjorzsom1: Huh ?12:41
som1never mind12:41
dazjorz   yea guys sorry but if nobodies gonna answer ??12:41
dazjorznobody's**12:41
Sconkand what version is the stabel?12:41
limaman12:42
som1i have installed nvidia-glx, edited the xorg.conf file, edited /etc/modules, i even rebooted since then and i cant start opengl12:42
Seveasdazjorz, mailing lists, forums.....12:42
Madpilotdazjorz: try again in a couple of hours. trying every two minutes isn't going to work...12:42
dazjorzSeveas: Did that already.12:42
Seveasdazjorz, google, wiki...12:42
dazjorzMadpilot: I just need to know what could be the segmentation fault. I think its has not much to do with the executable itself, since it can start, give a screen, but once it starts loading modules...12:43
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dazjorzthere must be something wrong with one of the modules, i wanted to ask what could be wrong12:43
lij'ai envie de vomir12:43
Snippyhello everyone12:43
dazjorzthey are .so files12:43
dazjorzi compiled only 2 myself12:44
dazjorzso,...12:44
ilba7ranacron if you are here here is a thread to uninstall the ndiswrapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=bcm12:44
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tiagohello... can i get some assitance please?12:44
liyes12:44
Seveastiago, sure, with what?12:44
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Snippytiago, just ask your question :)12:45
crankhi12:45
tiagoim trying to fix my grub boot loader12:45
ilba7ranacron and here is a thread on how to install ndiswrapper https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto12:45
anacronilba7r: ndidwrapper -l = ntedlwl12:45
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tiagoim running a live cd right now12:45
tiagoits telling me to mout my / and /boot... but i dont have a /boot i dont think12:45
Seveastiago, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:46
Seveasif you have no separate /boot partition, you can safely skip that step12:46
crankhow do i install a speedtouch modem correctly... i tried this but it didn't work: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html12:46
tiagothats what im reading Seveas12:46
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waxheadhi everyone12:46
crankhi12:46
Seveasthen skip the step that tells you to mount /boot :)12:46
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tiagothanx12:47
crankcan someone tell me how to open root12:48
crankpls12:48
Seveasbe a bit more specific12:48
Seveasthere is no such thing as 'opening root'12:48
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crankwell let me explain, i have an alcatel speedtouch modem, and ubuntu can't find that12:49
cranki need to install drivers12:49
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cranki tried this: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html12:50
Seveasyou use sudo to get root privileges12:50
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Seveassudo -i goves you a root shell12:50
crankk12:50
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crankbut i get something about gethostbyname() not working (i don't remember if it's right)12:51
Seveashmm, then your /etc/hosts is probably bad12:51
crankyeh i know12:52
Seveascan you paste that file on the pastebin please12:52
sinfernook so i cant install heroes cause i dont have root in the /user/local so i run the install as root, do i have to run the game as root every time now in order to keep my settings?12:52
SnippyI've got a problem.. with sound again.. when I play a mp3.. the sound is just fine how it should be.. but some other sounds like the gnome desktop sounds are choppy somehow, how can I fix this ?12:52
sinfernoi tried to chown the /usr/local/games/Heroes III folder12:52
sinfernobut it still says needs 5mb of space lol12:52
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crankSeveas i can't, i have to swith between ubuntu and windows all the time to connect to the internet... (partitions ;))12:53
Seveasthere is an ext3 reader for windows :)12:53
crankthe file isn't changed, it's still the same from installing ubuntu12:54
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Seveasyeah, but i've seen it being mysteriously wrong for several people already12:55
crankwhat should i kinda look like12:55
Seveasthere should be a line with 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain your_hostname12:55
Seveaswhere your_hostname is of course your actual hostname :)12:55
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Seveasif the your-hostname bit is missing, sudo will b0rk12:56
Seveasand somehow it is missing sometimes12:56
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crankit isn't there as far as i remember12:56
alybjr!on parle francais ici?12:56
crankhow can i edit the file?12:56
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tiagoSeveas,  im stuck again12:57
crankor replace it...12:57
Madpilot!fr12:58
ubotufr is probably Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais12:58
endeewho can help me with installing alsa drivers ? i'm stuck with it12:58
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Seveascrank, boot into recovey mode and edit it there12:59
crankow k thx12:59
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cranki'll try l8er, g2g to work12:59
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Kev0rSeveas: i reprogrammed g-v-m to give me choices when plugging in an usb stick :P01:00
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Raptoidselamlar..01:00
SeveasKev0r, nice01:01
tiagoSeveas, if i type /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda in terminal will it reinstal grub?01:01
Kev0rthanks :) and i removed the options for DIGICAM01:01
SeveasKev0r, write your tricks down on the wiki so others can benefit from them too :)01:01
Kev0rhmm, ok url?01:01
Seveastiago, it just might do that :)01:01
tiagobecouse grub is still in /boot/grub/01:01
SeveasKev0r, wiki.ubuntu.com01:01
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tiagoand its still configured corectly01:01
tiagowhat should i do?01:01
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tiagoi just want to tell my computer to use grub as my boot manager i dont realy want to reinstall it01:02
dazjorzjesus01:03
pfpthat basically means reinstalling grub, tiago :)01:03
dazjorzsomeone has a good PlayStation 2 emulator for me ?01:03
tiagobut then dont i have to manual configure it?01:03
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pfpwell, reinstalling to the bootsector, not reinstalling with apt etc01:04
tiagogrubs allreayd installed its just windows made its crappy bootloader defult... isent there an easyer way to do this?01:04
snippy_I've got a problem.. with sound again.. when I play a mp3.. the sound is just fine how it should be.. but some other sounds like the gnome desktop sounds are choppy somehow, how can I fix this ?01:04
minddazjorz, there is no good ps2 emulator out there.. for a reason :)01:05
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tiagoroot@mepis1:/ # /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda01:05
tiagoCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.01:05
PuGzhey guys... i have just switch to ubuntu on my ibm thinkpad laptop01:06
PuGzi have used ubuntu before01:06
PuGzi am using breezy01:06
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dazjorzmind: A reason ?01:06
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omegPuGz: I thought Breezy was unstable01:06
mindyes, its too new.. it takes time to develop an emulator that can play commercial games. the second reason, why emulate something that can still be bought01:07
PuGzi am trying to get 3 things working - ATI fglrx drivers for graphics acceleration, atheros ath_pci drivers for my wireless, and for some reason, ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt take me to the consoles...01:07
omegmind: because then you don't have to buy it? :p01:07
PuGzomeg, it is01:07
dazjorzmind: Have you tried pcsx201:07
dazjorzI agree, omeg01:07
mindyes01:07
tiagoim going to cry... this is so confusing... how do i know which hard drive is hda3?01:07
omegAlso, the PS2 can't be properly emulated because it's apparently got one of the most insane architectures ever.01:07
dazjorzmind: Does it start for you ?01:07
omeg(can't be properly emulated yet)01:08
tiagois it hd0,3?01:08
HappyFooltiago: no, probably hd0,201:08
pfptiago: it's hd0,201:08
PuGzcan anyone help with any of those?01:08
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PuGz1st off... why does ctrl+alt+f1 work?01:08
dazjorzmind: I need the plugins files and the pcsx2 executable, because in one of these files is a segmentation fault here01:08
PuGz(ie take me to a 1st console)01:08
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HappyFoolPuGz: if you're using breezy, not many of us will be able to help01:08
PuGzoh... so it is very recommended that you use hoary for now?01:09
HappyFoolPuGz: indeed01:09
PuGzok... will do!01:09
deFryskPuGz, soo /topic01:09
HappyFoolPuGz: breezy is still pre-release01:09
deFrysksee*01:09
pfptiago: i've used the grub shell to re-install grub... ie, start it with "sudo grub", then enter a few commands01:09
PuGzi'll be back in 30 mins if its not working01:09
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snippy_when will ot come out? oct ?01:09
omegI sure hope Breezy will get a proper installation interface...01:09
PuGzis there any way i can downgrade to hoary?01:09
HappyFoolyes, october01:09
snippy_I hope they fix the sound issues o_O01:09
PuGzdoes hoary have openoffice.org 2?01:10
deFryskoctober and april are always the releasemonths01:10
PuGzbeta?01:10
tiglionabbitheeey guys, I just wrote something, tell me what you think.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone01:10
omegAnd add a few more options to the screen resolution dialog. Like BPP, and a button to test the set-up with, just in case you end up with a garbled screen.01:10
tiagook guys let me reboot my pc and ill be back if every thing was succesful t thank you all01:10
AmaranthPuGz: and older version of the OOo2 betas, yeah01:10
PuGzcool01:10
PuGzcyas01:10
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minddazjorz, look at http://www.pcsx2.net/compatibility.php and decide for yourself wether you want to go through that trouble01:11
omegAnother thing I'm hoping for in Breezy (kind of obscure) is a function to make screensavers not use more than n amount of CPU power.01:11
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omegRandom screensavers is neat, but if it happens to pick one that puts my laptop in 100% cpu usage, it'll start to make a lot of noise.01:11
tiglionabbitomeg: perhaps you must sift through them all and find the right ones01:12
deFryskomeg, just turn of the resource using screensavers01:12
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omeg"turn off the resource using screensavers" ??01:12
deFryskyes01:12
omegwhat do you mean by that?01:12
tiglionabbitany comments on my flashplayer thingamabob?01:12
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mindomeg, start xscreensaver with "nice" and set the cpu scaling daemon to ignore "niceified" processes01:12
snippy_hey what FONT are you guys using in IRC ?01:13
omegthat doesn't sound like something a non-hacker can do01:13
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ilba7rjust a quick question is there an application like kdevelop under gnome?01:13
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mindomeg, that sounds like reading, not like hacking01:13
tiglionabbitsnippy_: what?  Font?  hmm?01:13
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moshehello01:13
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omegI think one of the things that's really important for Ubuntu to become a serious desktop alternative is making the entire system so that you don't regularly have to do hacker stuff.01:14
moshewhich file does ubuntu log ssh logins to?01:14
snippy_I use monospace too01:14
snippy_but it has a bad quality somehow01:14
pfpomeg: system/preferences/screensaver lets you choose the random screensavers01:14
HappyFoolomeg: how about the 'blank' screensaver then? That's pretty easy01:14
Amaranthomeg: that's always a goal01:14
omegYeah, sure01:14
Amaranthomeg: If you have to open a terminal, Ubuntu has failed.01:14
deFryskturn screessaver of is also a nice option01:14
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omegI wouldn't go as far as to say that, Amaranth.01:15
deFrysksnippy_, then try another01:15
tiglionabbitthat's what some people think.  I personally love the teminal.  It's a lot better than windows' terminal01:15
tiglionabbitand there are tons of applications written to run completely in it01:15
omegI mean, terminals should always stay just in case, but it should be reduced to an absolute minimum and only in case something goes horribly wrong, or you ARE a hacker who likes to tweak stuff.01:15
snippy_deFrysk, I did.. but I cant find a good one01:15
Amaranthomeg, tiglionabbit: I said 'have' to. It's fine if opening a terminal is more convienent (sp?) for you.01:15
HappyFooltiglionabbit: interesting. i don't think i'm going to download and compile wine, but if I had to view a lot of flash, i'd consider it01:15
snippy_isnt there Arial ? lol01:16
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Amaranthomeg, tiglionabbit: But if the terminal is the _only_ way you can do something, something is broken.01:16
omegYeah.01:16
tiglionabbitHappyFool: thanks.  I use apt to compile wine though, so it's not too difficult01:16
dazjorz GODDDAMMIt01:16
deFrysksnippy_, *I always liked comic sans ms01:16
omegI agree with that.01:16
dazjorzsorry01:16
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dazjorzthis is now like the 10th time i'm trying to install Ubuntu01:16
dazjorzand EVERY TIME I GET ERROR THIS ERROR THAT01:16
dazjorzargggh01:16
snippy_deFrysk, I dont like this one01:16
omegAmaranth: I think it was pretty strange when someone had to walk me through editing text files and using apt-get just so I could install video codecs.01:16
HappyFooleverytime your caps lock gets stuck, eh ?01:16
tiglionabbitHappyFool: oops, I'm misleading, aren't I?  That one command will do all of the downloading and compiling for you.  I'll edit that01:17
ZalborI'm currently using Fedora. I want to try Ubuntu and tried the DVD's live. I need to make the modem initialize with the ATX3 command, but I can't find out how to.01:17
dazjorzHappyFool: Heya01:17
dazjorzHappyFool: I need your help again01:17
omegBut I'm fine with it right now since Ubuntu is still not in final stages yet.01:17
HappyFooldazjorz: hi01:17
HappyFooldazjorz: what's the problem?01:17
Amaranthomeg: Of course you had to do a lot of work, you were doing something illegal.01:17
dazjorzHappyFool: Ubuntu fails installing again on the server01:17
dazjorzarrrgh01:17
omegArgh, codecs are considered illegal now?01:17
dazjorzHappyFool: Error this error that, blabla01:17
omegXviD and x264 are open source...01:17
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snippy_I've got a problem.. with sound again.. when I play a mp3.. the sound is just fine how it should be.. but some other sounds like the gnome desktop sounds are choppy somehow, how can I fix this ?01:18
HappyFooldazjorz: ok, how are you installing? and on what hardware?01:18
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dazjorzHappyFool: When I start the installation of Ubuntu I have to do: cd /usr/bin && ln -s udpkg dpkg01:18
dazjorzHappyFool: Otherwise it fails installing.01:18
Amaranthomeg: aside from patent issues those are fine01:18
HappyFooldazjorz: err01:18
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Amaranthomeg: but w32codecs and such are so illegal it's sad01:18
HappyFooldazjorz: where do you do that?01:18
Frafraexcuseme, are the backports for amd64 ufficial?01:19
dazjorzHappyFool: Now when I'm installing the kernel, it fails with an error and screen 3 says that restricted-modules failed installing.01:19
omeg:(01:19
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dazjorzHappyFool: On tty201:19
ZalborHow can I make the modem connection initialize with ATX3?01:19
omegThat's a major setback.01:19
HappyFooldazjorz: where did you get that info from?01:19
omegBut still, then I don't see a reason to not have XviD and x264 in Synaptic.01:19
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bateauhow do i mount networkdrives?01:19
HappyFooldazjorz: please tell me what your hardware is01:19
dazjorzHappyFool: What info? That command? Myself01:19
omegAnd doesn't the XviD fourcc allow DivX decompression?01:19
dazjorzHappyFool: Pentium MMX, 128 MB RAM, 2 harddrives01:19
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dazjorzHappyFool: 1 is /dev/hda, 6 GB, 2 partitions, 1: /boot, 2: not mounted (backup)01:20
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Juhazomeg, mpeg4 is patent ridden, not legally safe in "land of the free"01:20
HappyFooldazjorz: you're using the normal hoary install cd?01:20
michounethello all01:20
dazjorzHappyFool: 2 is /dev/hde (behind controller), 40 GB, 2 partitions, 1: /, 2: swap01:20
Amaranthomeg: by default only main and restricted are turned on because universe and multiverse 1) have patent issues and 2) aren't supported01:20
dazjorzHappyFool: Yes.01:20
ZalborCan anyone tell me how to do what I asked?01:20
michouneti have a big problem with my tuner tv card, i have an screen but not sound :( help me please!! my card is an saa713401:21
omegYeah, but still... DivX, XviD and x264 can all be downloaded for free, legally. Including them by default would be easy for people using Ubuntu. People who want to watch videos but aren't able to edit text files and update their packages.01:21
michounet(i'm french, sorry for my english :))01:21
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dazjorzHappyFool: I'm using the hoary installation CD that i ordered. I've got 15 cd's, they give the same error.01:22
dazjorzmichounet: je parle un peu de francais ^^01:22
HappyFooldazjorz: do you have any idea what's causing the problem?01:22
Random_Sindromje auussi01:22
_tiagohey guys, listen thanks for the help with the grub problem01:22
michounet:d01:22
michounetoh yeahhh01:22
ZalborHow can I make the modem connection initialize with ATX3?01:22
_tiagounfortunatly its not the end of my problems01:22
dazjorzHappyFool: I think its the CD-ROM drive, but i'm not sure. When I try to install with net_retriever, it fails too.01:22
Random_Sindrommichounet: try killing esd01:23
dazjorzRandom_Sindrom: moi aussi :p01:23
michouneti' had try eyt01:23
michounetbut ,ot...01:23
michounetnot*01:23
HappyFooldazjorz: have you tried booting with the live cd? Just to check if ubuntu can see all your hardware (e.g., your ide controller)01:23
Random_Sindromdazjorz: ,o)01:23
_tiagomy windows partition is now set to hiden for some reason and wont boot...01:23
dazjorzHappyFool: Gonna try now :)01:23
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dazjorzHappyFool: Standby. Be right back.01:24
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ZalborDoes no one know (which I think is unlikely) or am I being ignored?01:24
HappyFoolZalbor: i'm not sure, but i see a 'modeminit' entry in my /etc/chatscripts files01:24
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HappyFoolZalbor: maybe you can add 'ATX3' there; be sure to backup whatever file you change first01:25
_tiagoZalbor: im getting the same feeling as you01:25
LlukaXhey can someone help me, my box wont recognize any usb01:25
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LlukaXit also locks up at boot "starting hotplug subsystem"01:25
HappyFool_tiago: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to tell it about the windows partition01:25
engieHi. Is there a breezy install CD yet?01:25
ZalborI think I have to tamper with a file of PPPD01:25
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HappyFool_tiago: however, i thought ubuntu had a 'update-grub' script which would do that for you01:25
_tiagogrubs working fine now01:26
HappyFoolZalbor: i think pppd uses chat for dialing; i may be wrong01:26
_tiagothe thing is that widnows isent01:26
HappyFool_tiago: yes, but you need to tell grub about windows01:26
michounetnobody has an idee for my problem?01:26
ZalborI guess I'll try that... Thanks for now01:26
dazjorzHappyFool: By the way, I need to use modprobe 3c509 at boot, otherwise it will not recognise my network card. Is that a problem ?01:26
_tiagogrub manages to get the windows loading screenup... but then windows brings up an error01:27
Random_SindromLlukax: you have to add some line to a file01:27
Random_Sindromin on the hoary guide01:27
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_tiagois there any way to change the nfts status so its not hidden ntfs partition?01:27
LlukaXhmm?01:27
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LlukaXwhere is the hoary guide?01:27
teprrris X still broken in breezy?01:28
Seveasyes01:28
dazjorzHappyFool: Private OK ?01:28
HappyFooldazjorz: i don't know01:28
teprrrokay01:28
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SeveasLlukaX, wiki.ubuntu.com01:28
HappyFooldazjorz: err, i guess01:28
_tiagoi booted into windows vista and i cant see my windows xp partition... its hiding01:28
HappyFooldazjorz: this problem sounds over my head, though, so it might be better to keep things here01:28
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_tiagothough i can still access it in linux01:29
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LlukaX:/01:29
Random_SindromLlukaX: http://ubuntuguide.org01:29
LlukaXah01:29
LlukaXthanx01:29
_tiagolol kinda ironic... linux can so a ntfs partition thats hidden to another windows os01:29
Seveas!ubuntuguide01:29
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.01:29
SeveasRandom_Sindrom, LlukaX ^--01:29
_tiagoso does any one think they can help me?01:29
samuis it possible to listen to podcasts through ubuntu somehow?01:30
_tiagoim sure it was partition magic that coused this problem... i might need to install partition magic under windows vista to try and solve it... unless there is a way under linux01:30
LlukaX?01:30
concept10What is this guy talking about windows vista for?01:30
_tiagoi cant view my xp partition under vista...01:31
Seveas!vista01:31
ubotumethinks vista is Viruses, Insecurities, Trojans, Spyware, Adware01:31
_tiagolol01:31
LlukaXok so ium adding a line to what?01:31
Amaranthubotu: no, vista is the next version of windows01:31
ubotuAmaranth: okay01:31
Seveas_tiago, is the partition type set to ntfs?01:31
Amaranthubotu: lock vista01:31
ubotuAmaranth: locking factoid vista01:31
Kev0r!vista01:31
ubotuvista is, like, the next version of windows01:31
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LlukaXthis guide mentions nothing about hotplug :(01:31
_tiagorofl01:31
Seveas_tiago, and didn't you hide it with grub?01:32
dazjorz LOL :: Where to order Ubuntu CDs for absolutely FREE? :: @ ubuntuguide.org ==> For absolutely free ?!01:32
_tiagohow can grub effect an ntfs partition in a another windows os if its only a boot loader?01:32
travellerwhat's a good tv app?01:32
Kev0ryes dazjorz i ordered 2001:33
_tiagogrubs working fine now01:33
dazjorzKevOr: I mean01:33
LlukaX_tiago, it can make you lose your ntldr01:33
dazjorzKevOr: I did too, but i mean look at the sentance01:33
_tiagoi think it was when i used partition magic under windows to set my ext3 root parition as the boot partition for my pc that it hid C: in the process01:33
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dazjorz   "For absolutely free"01:33
dazjorzits either "Absolutely free" or "For absolutely nothing"01:34
_tiagooh so is there any way to unhide it now?01:34
Kev0r:/01:34
_tiagoi can view it in linux01:34
_tiagoits mounted01:34
Seveas_tiago, remove the hide commands from menu.lst :)01:34
magnetoanyone familiar with emifreq-applet01:34
dazjorzHappyFool: Live system is booting, it prepared the session already01:34
_tiagowhere is that file located?01:34
equexanyone else having problem with the OS freezing ? using the 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel01:34
equexthe os freezes about once a day01:35
concept10_tiago, I hope youre not trolling to let everyone know you have Windows vista01:35
equexhave to hard reboot01:35
endeeendee01:35
magneto!emifreq01:35
ubotuWish i knew, magneto01:35
magneto!emifreq-applet01:35
ubotumagneto: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:35
_tiagoconcept10: im not that sad and lacking a social life01:35
concept10_tiago, thanks.01:36
_tiagohundreds of thousends of people have windows vista... its no big deal... i found ubuntu more exciting01:36
endeeis there a way to run CS:S on linux ?01:36
_tiagoi just want to be able to use my windows xp again01:36
_tiagobecouse i have home work on there01:36
dazjorzHappyFool: Hotplug takes a long time01:36
_tiagoso... umm where is this file i must edit to unhide hda1?01:37
HappyFooldazjorz: i think your Pentium MMX is relatively low-spec01:37
Random_SindromLlukaX: edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist01:37
Random_Sindromadd the file that hotplug ask for at booting01:37
dazjorzHappyFool: But its not even working. I don't hear the harddisk nor the cdrom being used.01:38
HappyFooldazjorz: hmm01:38
HappyFooldazjorz: so it's frozen?01:38
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dazjorzHappyFool: I can still type. But it appears its doing nothing.01:39
anatolere01:39
anatolexcompmgr is amazing01:39
anatole:)01:39
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HappyFooldazjorz: i'm not sure what to suggest. You said earlier you suspected your cd-rom?01:41
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dazjorzHappyFool: Yes, during the installation, it it read something from the cdrom, it failed.01:41
_tiagocan some one plz tell me how to edit menu.lst?01:41
dazjorzHappyFool: Its going on now.01:41
HappyFool_tiago: 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'01:41
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_tiagoty01:41
dazjorz_tiago: Or use vi01:42
dazjorzmaybe01:42
HappyFooldazjorz: a Pentium MMX means about a 100MHz machine, right? i.e., fairly old?01:42
dazjorzHappyFool: Yes01:42
_tiagoany thing else i can use to open it?01:42
HappyFool_tiago: gedit01:42
pettimore like 150-23301:42
_tiagousing gui perhaps?01:42
nightswimmmx goes upto 23301:42
nightswimand starts at 16601:42
nightswimperhaps even more than 23301:42
HappyFool_tiago: 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'01:42
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dazjorzHappyFool: I have a black screen with a cursor now.01:43
HappyFool_tiago: editing that file is not a typical user activity01:43
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jadeanyone know how to apt-get mplayer? i want to play a .mov file01:43
_tiagoim going to blow some thing up arnt i?01:43
_tiagoif i edit that file will i be able to unhide the hda1 partition?01:44
dazjorzHappyFool: It seems to be frozen now.01:44
HappyFool_tiago: i have no idea01:44
HappyFool_tiago: it sounds like you should be asking windows vista experts these questions01:44
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HappyFooldazjorz: can you test your cd-rom in anyway?01:44
_tiagoits got nothing to do with vista... its got to do with xp01:44
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HappyFool_tiago: ok, windows xp experts01:45
_tiagomaybe even partition magic01:45
Kev0rdidn't know this was #microsoft01:45
_tiagoi think thats what done this in the first place01:45
_tiagohey thats mean01:45
_tiagoim in ubuntu now arnt i?01:45
dazjorzHappyFool: Ok, its working now,01:45
_tiagothats the os that im running01:45
dazjorzHappyFool: X Server couldn't start01:45
HappyFooldazjorz: ok, but you've got a console?01:45
_tiagoironicly its working problem free unlike windows01:45
dazjorzHappyFool: Some file input/output error in FileToMem or something01:45
dazjorzHappyFool: Lets see...01:45
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dazjorzHappyFool: Yes01:46
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jadehmm aparently mplayer doesnt work on ubuntu?01:47
HappyFooljade: read the restrictedformats page on the wiki (see below):01:47
HappyFool!restricted01:47
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:47
equexi have it working jada01:47
jadeall i wanna do is play a .mov file :)01:47
pettimplayer works just fine thanks01:47
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HappyFooljade: that page will tell you how to install media players01:48
jadethanks HappyFool01:48
dazjorzHappyFool: I have a console, yes.01:48
HappyFooldazjorz: you managed to login?01:48
dazjorzHappyFool: I'm logged in as Ubuntu. How do I login as Root? What is the password ?01:48
HappyFooldazjorz: hmm. try logging in as 'root' with no password, or we can try 'sudo'01:49
dazjorzHappyFool: Or what is the password for sudo ?01:49
HappyFooldazjorz: probably blank01:49
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dazjorzHappyFool: Root and no password doesnt work.01:49
HappyFooldazjorz: sudo and no password?01:49
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jadedazjorz: sudo takes ur usernames pass word01:49
HappyFooljade: he's on the live cd01:49
thenukeHappyFool: logging in as a root without password X-D01:49
jadeHappyFool: ahh k01:50
dazjorzHappyFool: Sudo doesnt want a password here01:50
HappyFooldazjorz: great01:50
DVSoftwaredazjorz, i've typed sudo passwd root01:50
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DVSoftwareand defined root pass01:50
HappyFooldazjorz: let's try 'fdisk -l'01:50
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dazjorzDVSoftware: Thanks, i'll try01:50
HappyFooldazjorz: err, 'sudo fdisk -l'01:50
jade^^01:50
HappyFooldazjorz: that should list all partitions linux can find01:51
dazjorzHappyFool: Ok.01:51
dazjorzHappyFool: I'm on root now. I'll try01:51
dazjorzOh wait01:51
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dazjorzHappyFool: Is that i or L01:51
HappyFooldazjorz: my idea is to try to see if ubuntu can see /dev/hde01:51
dazjorzL01:51
dazjorzl / I01:51
HappyFoollowercase ell01:51
dazjorzThanks01:51
DVSoftwareL01:51
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dazjorzHmm Can I use SSH on live mode? Because its a lot of information01:52
samuso is it possible to listen to podcasts without iTunes?01:52
HappyFooldazjorz: just give me a rough idea01:52
HappyFooldazjorz: how many partitions, on what drives, etc.01:53
dazjorzHappyFool: It sees both harddisks with the correct partitions01:53
HappyFooldazjorz: ok01:53
dazjorz=)01:53
HappyFooldazjorz: i think we need some way to test your cd-rom01:53
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dazjorzOk.01:53
HappyFooldazjorz: but i'm not sure if we can eject the cd in live cd mode01:53
dazjorzI think so01:54
dazjorzHappyFool: I think so, the whole system is in RAM, i think01:54
HappyFooldazjorz: ok, what we can try is run an md5sum check on the ubuntu install cd01:54
HappyFooldazjorz: that should force your cd-rom to read the whole CD01:54
dazjorzHappyFool: OK, is there a md5sum file that checks the whole cd ?01:55
HappyFooldazjorz: yeah, in the cd's room01:55
doodzI have a problem with my external monitor.. its attached to my laptop and when im viewing a movie i can only see "video" on my laptop and on the external monitor its just black. Any ideas?01:55
dazjorzHappyFool: I'm gonna check it on the machine itself because I suspect the CD-ROM player.01:55
HappyFooldazjorz: yeah, that's what i meant01:55
dazjorzHappyFool: Root*01:55
HappyFooldazjorz: the command is 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt' -- yes, root, not room ;)01:56
HappyFooldazjorz: run that after mounting the cd01:56
dazjorzHappyFool: I mounted the CD and it says its empty....???!01:57
HappyFooldazjorz: hmm. You did issue a 'mount' command?01:58
dazjorzmkdir cdmount && mount /dev/cdrom cdmount && cd cdmount01:58
dazjorzofcourse01:58
dazjorzI did dir and it was empty01:58
dazjorz?!01:58
dazjorzI also did this01:58
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dazjorzcd .. || umount cdmount || umount /dev/cdrom || mount /dev/cdrom cdmount || cd cdmount || dir01:58
dazjorzstill empty01:58
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HappyFooldazjorz: hmm01:59
HappyFooldazjorz: what does plain 'mount' say? Does it think /dev/cdrom is mounted?01:59
HappyFooldazjorz: and is /dev/cdrom correctly linked ? (to /dev/hdc, or maybe /dev/hdb) ?01:59
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dazjorzHappyFool: it says nothing about /dev/cdrom, but it says that /dev/hdb is mounted to /cdmount which is correct because the CD player is connected as primary IDE slave02:00
dazjorzi thought...02:00
HappyFooldazjorz: i'm at a loss02:00
dazjorzme too02:00
HappyFooldazjorz: unless this is some livecd weirdness02:01
dazjorzmaybe, it gave some strange errors02:01
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HappyFoolah02:02
dazjorzat boot02:02
pettienabling speedstep makes nasty breaks in this laptop. It's a pain to type when it suddenly misses a few characters02:02
dazjorzHappyFool: If I run the installation on my own pc, it gives not any error, but on that PC, it gives an error about /usr/bin/dpkg that doesn't exist when installing the kernel.02:03
dazjorzThats why I used ln -s udpkg dpkg02:03
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HappyFooldazjorz: i don't follow 'installing the kernel' ?02:03
HappyFooldazjorz: you mean installing a custom kernel?02:03
dazjorzno02:03
dazjorzWhen the ubuntu installer does 'base ubuntu install', it installs some kernel too, linux-386 i thought02:04
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dazjorzand it gives errors on that02:04
HappyFooldazjorz: sounds right02:04
HappyFooldazjorz: that is very suspicious02:04
som1hm.. i got ubuntu again, got the nvidia-glx package, edited the xorg.conf file, /etc/modules and i cant start opengl.. any idea why?02:04
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som1when im not root - Error: Could not open /dev/nvidiactl because the permissions are too resticitive.  Please see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.. doc path is wrong, ive read it tho02:05
dazjorzafter a while it also gives a lot of errors about the release file: Incorrect Release File: Blabla Binary~/Packages02:05
HappyFooldazjorz: i do not have a 'udpkg' file on my system (not that locate can find, anyway)02:05
dazjorzsom1, what about: chmod 0777 /dev/nvidiactl ??02:05
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som1..when i do use root02:05
HappyFooldazjorz: was this a 'standard' install?02:05
dazjorzYe02:06
bateauhow do i mount networkdrives?02:06
dazjorzYes*02:06
som1Sys_Erorr: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsysem02:06
som1subsystem02:06
som1:P02:06
dazjorzHappyFool: In /usr/bin I did ls after it gave the error about /usr/bin/dpkg missing02:06
dazjorzwhile the installation was running02:06
dazjorzHappyFool: I saw a udpkg and made a symlink, which worked.02:07
dazjorzThe first time.02:07
dazjorzOk I'm gonna do installation again and tell you exactly what I do okay ?02:07
HappyFooldazjorz: obviously such a hack should not be necessary02:07
HappyFooldazjorz: i had no such problems02:07
broxtorbateau: Have a look at ubuntuguide.org. It's explained in detail there.02:07
HappyFooldazjorz: i'm afraid i'm off now02:07
som1..any ideas?02:08
HappyFooldazjorz: perhaps you should report this as a bug02:08
dazjorzHappyFool: I did02:08
HappyFooldazjorz: i can only imagine you have some very strange hardware02:08
dazjorzHappyFool: The only strange hardware I have is the controller.02:08
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zyrosd02:08
dazjorzHappyFool: I'll try to run the installer again. The only tricks I do are modprobe and symlink.02:08
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dazjorzHappyFool: The first time I do base install it asks what kernel to install and the only choice is linux-38602:09
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dazjorzThe second time it asks between linux-386 and linux-image-386 and another one02:09
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zyroshm02:09
HappyFooldazjorz: this is a 'server' install, i presume?02:09
dazjorzHappyFool: First time it was, but not anymore, no.02:09
HappyFooldazjorz: because i get asked no questions at all02:09
dazjorzHappyFool: its an `expert' install02:09
HappyFooldazjorz: well, other than username etc02:09
HappyFooldazjorz: ah.02:10
dazjorzHappyFool: But that is needed02:10
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wezzer-quick question: How do I set up rule using iptables, to route every request at port 80 to port 8080 at interface eth102:10
wezzer-?02:10
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dazjorzHappyFool: Because I need to install GRUB to the MBR of /dev/hda, or it won't boot with /dev/hde as root. Thats not possible in the normal setup.02:10
luiHello everybody02:10
luiHello Seveas02:10
HappyFooldazjorz: is it not possible to install /boot and / to /dev/hda, and later mount /home and maybe /usr and /var onto /dev/hde ?02:10
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dazjorzHappyFool: No, I did that before, and ran out of disk space on one dir.02:11
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dazjorzHappyFool: When I try to get diskspace from another partition to that dir, I lose files and the system doesnt work anymore02:11
dazjorzNot as it should, i mean.02:12
dazjorzI'll try to do a normal install, see what it does.02:12
StormxHeya I'm awake again!02:12
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HappyFooldazjorz: well, server install should only need 500MB, i think -- i'd do that, then rearrange partitions later02:12
zyrosd02:12
HappyFooldazjorz: my impression is that /home, /var and /usr are the big space-takers02:13
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HappyFooldazjorz: anyway, i really must be going. good luck.02:13
StormxHappyFoo: Correct02:13
dazjorzThanks02:13
iddqdi'm trying to play audio in xmms, but i only get feedback if i select esound. neither alsa nor oss work. i can't get audio in vlc either, any ideas how to fix this?02:14
iddqdmy audio is onboard, dont know how to find out what chipset02:14
luipeople, I'm trying to configure wxGTK-2.4.2 but the terminal puts me thins message: "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH" what should I do?02:15
StormxOK Now I have a question. Can you mount something twice. I currently have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /mnt/windows. Can I mount /dev/hdb1/Music on /home/barney/music/02:15
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BusMasterlui, install gcc02:15
Stormxlui: You need a C-Compiler. gcc02:15
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BusMasterlui, apt-get install build-essentials02:15
Stormxlui: You should also use synaptic and apt-get to download and install packages02:15
Stormxapt get install build-essentials02:16
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luiok people, thank you. I'll try now02:16
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DolphDoes anybody here have Ubuntu for Mac?02:17
thoreauputicDolph: sure. I run Ubuntuon an iBook G402:18
StormxDolph: Its easy enough to do.02:18
dazjorzee02:18
Dolphthoreauputic, ok two questions, 1. Does it run stable, as for i38x, and 2. I'm thinking about installing this on my iMac, but how the .will I get around the fact that it only has one mouse button?02:18
dazjorzE: Couldn't find package build-essentials02:18
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cafuego_lui: There is a precompiled wxgtk 2.4 package02:19
bimberidazjorz: build-essential (lose the s)02:19
wibbleDolph: I run Ubuntu on  Mac; I use a three-button usb mouse02:19
thoreauputicDolph: 1) Stable - yes 2) Get yourself an USB 3button mouse02:19
StormxDolph: You not running a powerPC processer?02:19
dazjorzbuild-essential is already the newest version ^^02:19
DolphStormx, not sure, just got this imac, don't really know ANYTHING about macs02:19
StormxDolph: Hmmm02:20
DolphStormx, and being a seasoned linux (and unfortunately windows too) user, that MacOS is pissing me off02:20
cafuego_Dolph: a three button usb mouse is really very cheap. Just use one of those.02:20
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wibbleDolph: it is stable and detected all the hardware fine02:20
Dolphlet me see what this is, one sec02:20
StormxDolph: Find out your processer architecture.02:20
iddqdok i have an nforce 2 ac97 audio controller; which doesnt work through alsa or oss02:20
Dolph366 mhz PowerPC G302:20
iddqdanybody else having this problem? will it be fixed if i update nforce drivers?02:20
DolphDamn this is an old one isnt it?02:21
cafuego_Dolph: The 8600, G3, powerbook, iMacs and Mac Mini all work fine.02:21
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StormxDolph: You need a PowerPC version of ubuntu02:21
ags06anyone know how to work IR to connect my phone02:21
DolphAlright, does 366mhz on a mac equal 366mhz on an Intel-compatible processor?02:21
cafuego_Doplh: Ubuntu PPC will work 100% fine on that, it will detect and install all hardware.02:21
StormxDolph: Yeh, think so...02:21
cafuego_Dolph: No, on a G3 it'd be comparable to a P3/800 or somesuch.02:21
DolphOh well, guess it's a fine work computer :)02:22
thoreauputicDolph: It will be quicker than those mhz suggest02:22
luicafuego: I know but I'm trying to install lmule02:22
cafuego_Not for certain benchmarks, but certainly in day to day use.02:22
apokryphosis sudo {guiapp} potentially not that devastating in gnome, or something? :|02:22
Dolphthoreauputic, good02:22
StormxDolph: Download the PowerPC version, burn it, get a cheap USB mouse, boot it, you're awat!02:22
DolphStormx, sure will :)02:22
cafuego_lui: then you need the wxgtk -dev package02:22
cafuego_Dolph: it runs great on the 350MHz iMacs here :-)02:23
cafuego_apokryphos: Nope02:23
Stormx^___________________________________^;;02:23
Dolphcafuego, with no latency in Gnome what so ever?02:23
Stormxbbs02:23
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ags06IR connection anyone02:23
thoreauputicDolph: Linux/ubuntu is noticeably more snappy than OS-X on my machine02:23
apokryphoscafuego: nope, as in it's not potentially pretty harmful?02:23
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cafuego_Dolph: A little bit. How much ram does it have?02:23
luiok02:23
Dolphcafuego, 320mb02:24
cafuego_apokryphos: No more harmful than running stuff as root outside of gnome.02:24
luicafuego: do you speak spanish?02:24
cafuego_Dolph: yeah, that fine.02:24
Dolphcafuego_, ok, great.02:24
DolphThank you all for your kind and fast help :)02:24
thoreauputicDolph: if you can afford more RAM, get it though - makes a difference02:24
cafuego_Dolph: The original imac hdds were a bit slow, so large apps will have a slight load delay02:24
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Dolphthoreauputic, it's a laptop.. ? :o02:25
cafuego_with a new 8Mb cache drive and 512Mb though... :-)02:25
apokryphoscafuego_: I doubt it's confined to KDE. sudo {guiapp} can sometimes alter configuration files; sometimes making them root's. Especially with dcop sockets. sudo doesn't set up the environment to run gui apps; that's what gksudo, kdesu are for, surely02:25
apokryphosan app's config files, that is.02:25
cafuego_apokryphos: orbit complains; however it makes its OWN sockets with the username in them.02:25
cafuego_apokryphos: I've had warnings here, but never fatal errors.02:26
thoreauputicDolph: well, mine's a laptop too - but you could get it with 256 512 or 768MB (Probably up to 1Gig) I have 768MB but 512 would have been fine too02:26
DolphI'm im unable to get an USB mouse in time, though, seeing as I'll be using this in 2 days and it's weekend, is it completely impossible to utilize Ubuntu with a onebutton mouse?02:26
DolphIf I'm*02:27
apokryphoscafuego_: not fatal; can always be fixed with appropriate chown directory/ -- still, the errors are an issue. Do you still get them with gksudo/kdesu?02:27
thoreauputicDolph: not at all - use the F11 and F12 keys02:27
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StormxBack02:27
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Dolphthoreauputic, what do they do?02:28
cafuego_apokryphos: Never used those except through the admin menus.02:28
thoreauputicDolph: you can mimic right and left buttons02:28
Dolphahh02:28
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=== dazjorz is installing the UBUNTU BASE SYSTEM......................
Stormxthoreauputic: Not working for me >_<02:28
namelessshi02:28
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cafuego_Dolph: F12 will simulate a right-click at wherever the mosue pointer is02:28
Dolphnow to figure out how to eject the cdrom drive in this..... lol02:28
StormxPress the "Eject" button?02:29
Stormx;D02:29
cafuego_Dolph: paperclip; see the little hole on thr right hand side of the slot?02:29
StormxYeh02:29
DolphYeah, but I'm pressing it and nothing happens :S02:29
thoreauputicDolph: Linux has an "eject" command02:29
StormxQuick release02:29
Stormxusefull for installing linux at school.02:29
cafuego_Dolph: If it on Linux, hit Eject02:29
DolphThis still has Mac OSX02:30
cafuego_Dolph: IOn macos, dump the cd icon in the trash02:30
namelessshey i cannot install the java environment02:30
cafuego_Dolph: or hold down f1202:30
namelessssomeone can help me ?02:30
Dolphlol, trash it, hahah02:30
Stormxnamelesss: Sure.02:30
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Stormxnamelesss: Tried synaptic?02:30
namelesssno02:30
cafuego_Dolph: The trash turns into an eject icon when you hover the cd icon02:30
namelesssi tried manually02:30
Dolphbut...there's no trash icon >.<02:30
Dolphgrrr02:30
namelessslike explain to ubuntu.org02:30
Stormxnamelesss: System > Administration > Synaptic02:30
cafuego_There is, on the dock, rightmost icon02:30
Dolphooooh, true02:31
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cafuego_Dolph: See if selecting the icon and hitting apple-Y works.02:31
luipeople, wich are the common c++ and g++ I need to install to configure wxGTK?02:31
Dolphthere we go, it ejected when I threw out the CD ^^02:31
cafuego_lui: why do you think you need to compile exgtk?02:31
HaffeHi, I'm looking for a new soundcard. And I'm looking for one that's well supported. What should I get? Envy24? ACL805?02:31
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namelessshow does it works ?02:32
Stormx------------------YOU DON'T NEED TO COMPILE THINGS IN UBUNTU---------------------------------------02:32
cafuego_!compiling02:32
DolphEOD.02:32
Stormxnamelesss: Run a search for java?02:32
luiI'm just following some instructions to install lmule02:32
namelesssyep02:32
cafuego_lui: Then the instructions are wrong.02:32
Stormxnamelesss: You may need universe enabled.02:32
luiso, what should I do?02:32
Stormxlui: Use synaptic.02:32
namelesssit search automaclly to internet and install ?02:32
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Stormxnamelesss: You need to find the java package you need, mark it for installation, and hit apply02:33
Stormxif its not there, tell me.02:33
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StormxHaha Donk02:33
Stormxthats a good name02:33
cafuego_!tell nameless about java02:33
luilmule isn't in synaptic02:33
cafuego_lui; No, but wxgtk is.02:33
Stormxapt-get install lmule02:34
Stormx!lmule02:34
ubotuStormx: I don't know, could you explain it?02:34
StormxNo ;D02:34
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luiit isn't in apt-get neither02:34
cafuego_namelesss: ubotu should have sent you info on how to get java going the proper (legal) way.02:34
Stormxlui: Download a debian package02:34
luiok cafuego02:34
namelesssok02:34
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Stormxlui: Download the debian package (.deb) then go into terminal, go to the directory you downloaded into it and type dpkg -i <package name>02:35
thoreauputicnamelesss: make sure you read the link from the java page to the help howto, anf add the hoary-extras repository02:35
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thoreauputic*and02:35
namelessshuh ?02:35
namelessslol02:35
StormxHere, I'll give you my example repositories.02:36
namelessssorry what is synaptic exactly ?02:36
Stormxhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/33094402:36
apokryphosnamelesss: the Ubuntu Package Manager02:36
namelesssok02:36
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apokryphosnamelesss: you can both remove an fetch packages from servers (repositories)02:36
Stormxnamelesss: Synaptic lets you download and isntall practicly anything02:36
namelesssa ok02:36
apokryphoss/an/and02:36
Stormxhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/330944 - Thats my sources.list02:36
namelesssbut i don't find the jre package with synaptic02:36
Stormxnamelesss: Download a .deb of it02:37
deFrysk!java02:37
apokryphosnamelesss: you need to enable extra repositories; that is, other servers that Synaptic can download from02:37
namelessswhere ?02:37
Stormxnamelesss: From it's site.02:37
apokryphosStormx: no point; it's in backports02:37
StormxMeh, ok.02:37
apokryphosnamelesss: it's better to get it from the repository. Enable backports02:37
Stormxdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse02:37
Stormxadd that to sources.list02:38
luiStormx: thanks. sorry, I have to know a lot of things dealing with linux, but I'm certainly learning.02:38
thoreauputicStormx: you don't need to go through the old painful methods any more02:38
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MezStormx, Java isnt in official backports02:38
namelesssarf02:38
StormxYou need "universe"02:38
Stormxdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse02:38
thoreauputicStormx: erm , no - it's in hoary-extras02:38
MezStormx, Java is in hoary-extras02:39
namelessswhat is haory ?02:39
namelessshoary02:39
namelesssi'm french so i don't understand all02:39
apokryphosgeh02:39
highvoltagenamelesss: it is the name of the stable release of Ubuntu02:39
thoreauputicnamelesss: nickname for ubuntu 5.0402:39
namelesssok02:39
apokryphosStormx: sorry, they're right. Mixup.02:39
namelesssthx02:39
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cafuego_thoreauputic: The java in extras is actually illegal, as redistribution is expressly forbidden in the license.02:40
apokryphoscafuego_: ubotu doesn't search hoary-extras?02:40
Mezdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras restricted02:40
cafuego_apokryphos: well, he should...02:40
StormxBah.02:40
thoreauputiccafuego: hmm ... well looks like I'm now an unwitting lawbreaker :)02:40
cafuego_!find j2se extras02:40
apokryphosnope02:40
apokryphosinfo sun-j2re1.502:40
Mezcafuego, not neccesarilty02:40
cafuego_thoreauputic: !java in the bot gives proper instructions.02:40
apokryphosthat's the pack02:41
luiexcuse me, but, there is somthing better than lmule, before I install it?02:41
thoreauputiccafuego: ah, that has changed !02:41
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'j2se extras' returned no results.02:41
namelesssi tried the ubuntu backports method but it failed i taped "sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5" on term but the sun-j2sdk1.5 doesn't founded02:42
cafuego_thoreauputic: Yes, I changed it after whathisface said he accidentally wrecked the wiki02:42
thoreauputiccafuego: the hoary-extras method is *much* simpler... but I guess we have to toe the line02:42
luiexcuse me, but, is there something better than lmule, before I install it?02:42
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izmaelislui, try amule02:42
apokryphosdeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras02:42
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cafuego_thoreauputic: well, you know...02:43
luioks02:43
thoreauputiccafuego: seems quite a lot of useful stuff has disappeared from the wiki lately... no names no pack-drill and all that02:43
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omegHow do I create a shortcut? I want to run a program with a certain command line (namely: 'dosbox -conf "/home/omega/Dosbox computer/config.conf"'), and want to make a shortcut that does this.02:44
cafuego_thoreauputic: Long live anarchy!02:44
Stormxomeg: its called a "launcher"02:44
omegNeat. How do I create one?02:45
thoreauputiccafuego: I'm with you on that ;)02:45
Stormxomeg: On your desktop or in nautilus, right click > create launcher02:45
cafuego_thoreauputic: You can't be, I didn't say anarchosyndcalism ;-)02:45
wezzer-I need help: http://pastebin.com/33120602:45
dazjorz Roses are red02:45
dazjorz Violets are blu02:45
dazjorzblue*02:45
dazjorzI am schitzofrenic02:45
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dazjorzMe too02:45
dazjorzlol02:46
iddqdanybody using nforce2 ac97 audio here?02:46
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omegNeat, it works just fine.02:46
omegThanks.02:46
Stormxnp02:46
cafuego_dazjorz: hamer02:46
wibbleroses are red, violets are blue, all my base, are belong to you02:46
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apokryphosnamelesss: you can add deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted    to sources.list; sudo apt-get update, then install it02:46
iddqdviolets aren't blue02:46
cafuego_ik hou van je / ik blijf je trouw / totdat ik van / een ander hou02:47
Stormxviolets are violet.02:47
wezzer-hey iptables experts: http://pastebin.com/33120602:47
thoreauputiccafuego: right, a true anarchist would never say "I'm with you on that" :-)02:47
JoshRAHello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?02:47
dazjorzLOL02:47
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oonoonhi02:49
cafuego_JoshRA: kernEl bug eh02:49
anacroni don't know can you guys help me anymore, but i still have problem with my wlan card, dwl-510, i can't get it working with ndiswrapper or madwifi, i tried latest dwl510 inf file and realtecs inf file with ndiswrapper but nothing, anyone here who could help?02:49
Vital303Hi! I've recently installed Ubuntu. Everything works fine, but it seems that my soundcard (Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit) hasn't been detected.02:49
namelesssok it works thx02:49
oonoonwhen i launch the cfdisk on my user account, i get a 'Fatal error, can't open the disk unit', bug ?02:49
JoshRAcafuego_: i guess. tspc uis freenet6's clinet to confiure an tunnel from behind a nat firewall02:49
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anacronVital303: check ubuntu wiki if there's a howto for that02:50
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Shuflahello :)02:51
cafuego_JoshRA: Is the ipv6 module loaded BEFORE you start tspc?02:51
mOihi02:51
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JoshRAYes02:51
JoshRAand so is tun jic02:51
cafuego_JoshRA: Did you install the freenet6 package or did you download the client off the freenet6 site?02:52
JoshRAi did apt-get02:52
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anacronany guru's with wlan here? howto's wont help me02:52
pfpwezzer-: can you add the iptables command, that you use for the tp-proxy, to your pastebin post?02:52
JoshRAi have not been able to get the downloaded verison to run for me02:52
zeranacron: Thats a metaquestion ;-)02:53
wezzer-pfp: ok, just a minute02:53
pfpwezzer-: i can help w/ the exception then02:53
anacronzer: what's a metaquestion02:53
cafuego_JoshRA: Are you running a precompiled kernel or a self-compiled one?02:53
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cafuego_anacron: a waste of time02:53
JoshRAone that same with the od02:53
JoshRAois02:53
JoshRAos so precompiled02:54
anacronwell i did ask already with specific details but no one did answer02:54
wezzer-pfp: it's there; http://pastebin.com/33121202:54
anacronbut if i ask like that i morelikely get someone to talk02:54
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JoshRAcafuego_: precompiled02:55
mOihat irgendjemand ein klein wenig zeit und knnte mir bei einem problem helfen ?02:55
mOiwre nett danke02:56
anacroncafuego_: someone who would know might have joined right now, and didn't see my original question02:56
Vital303I have checked documentation wiki and cant find how to troubleshooting my sound card. Is there any simple Sound Card Configuration Tool?02:56
cafuego_anacron: within 5 mins? nah02:56
anacronlinux and simple usually can't fit in the same centence02:56
JoshRAi have never compiled a linux kernal only a BSD02:56
anacronwhere is sevas, he always has answer for my questions02:57
cafuego_JoshRA: Hmm, probably file a bug against that kernel package then02:57
pfpwezzer-: http://pastebin.com/331215 simple as that :)02:57
JoshRAcafuego_: i did update the keernal via apt then this started to happen02:57
wezzer-thank you very much :)02:57
pfpwezzer-: the commands (iptables rules) have to be in that order02:57
wezzer-okay02:57
pfpnp02:57
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cafuego_JoshRA: The previous kernel should still be in the boot menu.02:58
JoshRALinux localglade 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:58
cafuego_JoshRA: What kind of CPU do you have?02:58
cafuego_duh, a P3/p402:58
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JoshRAp3 60002:59
cafuego_JoshRA: Can you install the kernel for -686 ?02:59
JoshRAif i can find a howto guide for it02:59
DolphIs it just me, or is there no DEL button on a mac?02:59
JoshRAi have not compiled a kernal for linux before02:59
cafuego_JoshRA: Just use synaptic02:59
cafuego_JoshRA: There is a PREcompiled 2.6.10-5-68603:00
cafuego_(as opposed to -386)03:00
JoshRAk03:00
Dolphcafuego_, now that you mention -686, if I install Ubuntu on a mac, I will need -PPC packages of every single thing I install, won't I?03:01
rommeris there a way to change the ubuntu screen that says  loading panel... etc when u login to a gnome desktop?03:01
StormxDolph: Nope03:01
cafuego_Doplh: yes, it willt ake of that automatically.03:01
Stormxrommer: Yes, ask in #GNOME03:01
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jorscahi there, I am using Hoary and I can't manage to play sounds using either totem or mplayer. I know it has something to do with esd but I can't figure how to correct it.03:01
thoreauputicDolph: the package manager takes care of getting the right debs for you03:01
cafuego_yes, it will take care of that automatically.03:02
DolphWhat if, I want to install Mplayer, but mplayer only exists for i386?03:02
cafuego_Dolph: there is an mplayer for ppc03:02
Stormxjorsca: Change the output plugin to eSound03:02
DolphOr are there PPC deb packages for almost all i386 packs?03:02
JoshRAroot@localglade:~ # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-68603:02
cafuego_no w32codecs, though.03:02
jorscayep did that03:02
Dolphcafuego, it was hypothetically03:02
StormxStill nothing? Do you get sound otherwise?03:02
thoreauputicDolph: there are no win 32 codecs for ppc of course03:02
Dolphno w32codecs? Hmm, that sucks...03:02
jorscawell, I managed to have some by killing esd03:02
DolphWhat do I do then, if I want to playback a movie in XviD ?03:02
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cafuego_Dolph: well, they're win32 DLLs.. no way they're going to do ANYHTING on ppc ;-)03:03
thoreauputicDolph: you can set up mac on linux and run multimedia in that, if you want to03:03
cafuego_Dolph: Quicktime does Xvid/DivX03:03
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cafuego_But you'd need OSX.03:03
DolphHave that03:03
Drunewell, ubuntu 64binary's are not updated?03:03
cafuego_Drune: since when?03:04
jorscamplayer crashes if I use -ao esd03:04
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thoreauputicDolph: there's a mac-on-linux howto int he wiki (or was anyway) .. hang on I'll look03:04
Stormxjorsca: Use XMMS03:05
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Stormx!mac03:05
Drunecafuego, just an example, gaim is in 1.1.4 in ubuntu64 bits repository.03:05
ubotuStormx: Bugger all, i dunno03:05
Drunecurrent version is 1.4.003:05
cafuego_Drune: Some stuff has been ported, other stuff hasn't.03:05
necrogamiAnyone gonna watch the Brickyard 400?03:05
thoreauputicDolph:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto03:05
cafuego_Drune: My amd64 has 1.4 installed03:05
jorscaStormx: I'll try xmms with different plugins03:06
thoreauputicubotu mol is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto03:06
ubotu...but mol is already something else...03:06
necrogamimy AMD Semperon  has 1.4 GAIM installed03:06
Drunecafuego, maybe i'm using wrong mirror.03:06
thoreauputichmm03:06
thoreauputic!mol03:06
ubotusomebody said mol was See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help03:06
jorscait crashed when I used the default configuration03:06
cafuego_!info gaim03:06
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB03:06
cafuego_Drune: No, 1.1.4 is correct for hoary.03:07
Drunehmm, a little bit older.03:07
cafuego_Drune: Is it broken?03:07
mOimoin03:07
Druneno.03:07
cafuego_!rule 103:07
ubotuRule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!03:07
Druneahah03:07
Stormxhahaha03:07
Drunehahahhah03:07
Stormx!rule 203:07
ubotuStormx: Bugger all, i dunno03:07
omegHey guys. I'm trying to run Dosbox. It works just fine right now, except for one thing: there's no sound! I've set everything up just fine, and the games should have sound, but they don't. When I ran Windows, I didn't have this problem...03:08
cafuego_Drune: Breezy (in october) will have 1.403:08
omegMaybe any of you know?03:08
necrogamiAnyone gonna watch the Brickyard 400?03:08
thoreauputicubotu rule 2 is see rule 103:08
omegSound works just fine in my system, by the way. Just not for Dosbox.03:08
ubotuokay, thoreauputic03:08
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Stormxomeg: Dunno03:08
Stormxubotu rule * is rule 103:08
ubotuokay, Stormx03:08
cafuego_!no, rule 2 is <reply> GOTO #103:08
Stormxubotu: Don't listen to cafuego_, he is a liar03:09
ubotuStormx: I think you lost me on that one03:09
Stormx!info Seveas03:09
jorscaxmms with the esound esd output, still no sound with totem-xine03:09
omegSo I don't think anything is blocking the sound...03:09
Drunewell, it's stupid don't update something because it's not broken at all.03:09
Drunesee kernel example.03:10
Stormxubotu, Seveas is Seveas is Cool03:10
ubotuStormx: what are you talking about?03:10
thoreauputicStormx: try !seen03:10
Stormx!seen Seveas03:10
ubotuseveas is currently on #ubuntu (3h 47m 18s)03:10
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cafuego_Drune: Not fixing things that aren't broken is SANE.03:10
Stormxubotu Seveas is Seveas is damn cool!03:11
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Stormx03:11
StormxGah03:11
Stormx!Seveas03:11
ubotuStormx: I don't know03:11
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Stormxrofl!03:11
thoreauputic:D03:11
Stormx!kick thoreauputic03:11
ubotuStormx: No idea03:11
hhurtta_anyone have latest mplayer sources to share. seems that mplayerhq.hu is down.03:12
Stormx!zot thoreauputic03:12
ubotuWish i knew, Stormx03:12
Stormx!lart thoreauputic03:12
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thoreauputicStormx: random guesses won't do it I'm afraid03:12
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Stormx!help03:12
cafuego_!botabuse03:12
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.03:12
Stormx!cookie03:12
ubotuHey stormx, !fsf #DEL# is Free Software Foundation, Foundation which aims to make a completely Free operating system (GNU/Linux003:12
thoreauputicStormx:  /msg ubotu silly buggers03:13
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Stormx!wantnick Stormx03:13
ubotuStormx: I give up, what is it?03:13
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StormxGah03:14
cafuego_Tssk, cookie hoort vast geen arked as deleted'factoids op te halen03:14
Stormx!+host Stormx03:14
ubotuStormx: I don't know, could you explain it?03:14
cafuego_Stormx: Would you mind not spamming the channel with bot playtime?03:14
Stormxsorry ^_^03:14
znhcafuego: this is an english channel :] 03:14
cafuego_Stormx: The ops don't take kindly to it.03:14
thoreauputicStormx: stop it,, please03:14
StormxI have damn you ^_&03:14
cafuego_znh: sorry, wat?03:14
chaofwf03:15
znhcafuego: you just spoke some dutch03:15
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cafuego_znh: relapse ;-)03:15
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omegSo, anybody else who's had problems with the sound card not working with certain programs?03:15
Stormxyou're wife has homework?03:15
StormxINCEST!03:15
highvoltagecafuego_: you know dutch?03:15
pfpheh03:16
cafuego_highvoltage: i *am* dutch03:16
StormxI have limited dutch03:16
omegcafuego: are you married to a non-Dutch woman, and she's learning Dutch?03:16
Stormx3 word03:16
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Stormx"Boom", "Hallo" and "Ja"03:16
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highvoltagecafuego_: ah, ok. :) I'm afrikaans, so I understand dutch (mostly).03:16
omegHehe, neat, Stormx.03:16
jorscaok great, everything works... didn't change anything else than choosing the esound output in xmms...03:16
cafuego_Stormx: a spouse is family by definition. Were you after paedophilia?03:16
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cafuego_omeg: yep03:16
concept10what is a good linux icq client?03:16
highvoltagecomforteagle: gaim03:16
cafuego_concept10: gaim03:16
SadAngelmananyone here know how to get ununtu to install on a beige g3 macintosh computer running mac os10.2.803:17
silverteargaim and kopete03:17
highvoltagecomforteagle: sorry, meant for concept1003:17
pavanGuys , belive this is ubuntu linux channel .. isn't it?03:17
cafuego_highvoltage: Ah yes, theye still pretty similar.03:17
omegInteresting. I knew one guy who did that, too. He married someone from Canada.03:17
concept10oh, i didnt know gaim did icq, thanks03:17
StormxSo if someone asked me (in dutch) "Hello, Is that a tree?" I would answer "Hallo! Ja Ja! Boom! Boom!"03:17
dj28concept10: if you prefer console clients, i suggest centericq ;)03:17
cafuego_pavan: /topic03:17
znhpavan: this is #ubutnu indeed03:17
silverteargaim does a lot,03:17
znhsilvertear: not enough03:17
cafuego_omeg: Anything to get out of holland... ;-)03:17
silvertearwhat would you add?03:17
omegYou sure? I kind of like it here...03:18
concept10Do I have to have an ICQ Account?03:18
znhsilvertear: some sort of picturebox that displays your current buddy picture03:18
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dj28concept10: yea03:18
cafuego_concept10: How are we supposed to know?03:18
omegWhere are you moving to?03:18
pavan:-) apologies..bit new for this.. I am newbie for ubuntu and would like to intsall it and run skype on it..can i do that?03:18
rommeris it possible to move the friends' display pictures to the left of the name?03:18
concept10cafuego, because maybe you are a user03:18
cafuego_omeg: I've lived in melbourne for 8 1/2 years03:18
concept10cafuego, problem?03:18
dj28concept10: go sign up for one and then type the info in gaim03:18
silvertearznh: you can add it in if you compile from source instead of k/synaptic03:18
thoreauputicpavan: yes you can install skype03:18
omegconcept10: generally, if you want to use a messenger service, then... yes, you do need an account.03:18
cafuego_concept10: No, never mind, I can't read.03:18
hhurttaPlease, does anyone have mplayer sources lying somewhere on their harddrive to share?03:19
znhsilvertear: then i've to add some c++ knowlegde too03:19
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concept10I know, I know, dumb question... :)03:19
cafuego_hhurtta: Any reason you can't just apt-get install it?03:19
silvertearnot to be anal, but i think its in C03:19
hhurttacafuego_: i want to compile myself03:19
thoreauputichhurtta: mplayer is available from the multiverse repository03:19
cafuego_concept10: You should be able to create an icq account using gaim.03:19
cafuego_!compile03:19
ubotuwell, compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand03:19
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cafuego_hhurtta: Done that before?>03:20
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hhurttaalways03:20
pavanthanks "thoreauputic"03:20
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cafuego_Why can't you download the source then?03:20
hhurttamplayerhq.hu is down for me03:20
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cafuego_hhurtta: apt-get source mplayer03:21
hhurttacafuego_: thanks. that did it03:21
thoreauputicpavan: add this a t the botom of /etc/apt/sources.list >> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free03:21
Vital303How to check is 'alsa' installed?03:21
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silvertearby trying to reinstall it?03:21
thoreauputicVital303: it is, unless you've done something weird03:22
cafuego_hhurtta: Now, edit debian/rules and create a custom .deb via 'dpkg-buildpcackage -b' - that makes it easier to manage.03:22
SadAngelmananyone know about installing on a macintosh computer03:22
Vital303OK03:22
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cafuego_ubotu: compile is also Ask me about <compiling>03:22
ubotuokay, cafuego_03:22
hhurttacafuego_: thanks. never done this with debian/ubuntu03:23
AerotraceHey03:23
thoreauputicSadAngelman: just use the ppc iso - it's pretty much the same as installing on x86 really03:23
z|banditowhats the package to install webdav? :)03:23
cafuego_hhurtta: Then you will find "apt-get build-dep mplayer" very useful.03:23
cafuego_z|bandito: apache203:23
Vital303alsamixer returns03:23
Vital303alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device03:24
z|banditohi cafuego03:24
cafuego_z|bandito: Just enable mod_dav via 'a2enmod'03:24
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z|banditook i'll try03:24
soazhi03:24
SadAngelmani have ubuntu 5.04 & bootx but bootx says i need mac os9 to install ubuntu & i only have os10.2.803:24
Heijmenhow can i eject the cd from the drive when 'eject' from nautilus doesn't work?03:24
z|banditodo i need dav_fs?03:25
SadAngelmanive tried just about everything i can think of but cant get it to install03:25
thoreauputicSadAngelman: ? you don't need anything mor than the install disc to install ubuntu-ppc03:25
thoreauputic*more than03:25
silvertearhey, what would i need to run a mailserver at home? so like if my computer is mycomp.mydomain, what would i need to receive mail with silvertear@mycomp.mydomain?03:25
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silvertearsmtp is only the protocol for sending mail, right?03:26
SadAngelmanwell how do you get the cd to boot then as ive tried just about everything & nothing seems to work03:26
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pfpsilvertear: install an MTA (postfix is good) and have DNS point MX records to your IP03:26
mjrsilvertear, the only relevant one, yes03:26
thoreauputicHeijmen: try the "eject" command - if that doesn't work try "sudo eject"03:26
thoreauputicSadAngelman: put in CD, reboot, hold down the c key03:27
SadAngelmantried that & it dont work03:27
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pfpsilvertear: sending, and receiving, depending on which side you are ,)03:27
soazdoes somebody know, how can i change QT settings like font-size without KDE ? i have installed standart hoary installation, would like to use Skype, so i only installed libqt .. works fine so far, but the fonts are HUGE. does anyone know, how to change them, without installing some/lots of KDE apps ? thank you!03:28
silvertearwait so my mail transport agent receives the email, and thunderbird, for example, retrives it from the mta?03:28
SadAngelmani have an older mac a beige g3 & it will only boot with the c key held down if it can find an offical mac system folder on the cd03:28
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Heijmenthoreauputic, 'eject' opens the wrong drive, 'eject hdd' (hdd is the correct drive) gives error 'eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument' which is also what i get from nautilus03:29
pfpsilvertear: mta receives it and stores it somewhere on your (mail server's) hard disk, common places are /var/mail/$username and ~/Maildir/03:30
thoreauputicHeijmen: hmm - does " sudo eject /dev/hdd " work?03:30
popeyHeijmen: use the device name eject /dev/hdd03:30
Heijmenthoreauputic, sudo-ing it worked, still the error-msg but at least it ejected.. thanxxx!03:30
silvertearmta listens on my port 25?03:30
pfpsilvertear: yes03:30
silvertearok thx03:30
z|banditoSadAngelman did you try selecting it as the boot drive using system prefs-> startup disc?03:30
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z|banditoor try holding option when booting to use openfirmware to display a list of boot devices03:31
thoreauputicHeijmen: you can set eject suid root ( chmod +s /usr/bin/eject )03:31
JoshRA.c03:31
JoshRAcafuego_: i did that but it still panics on me03:31
SadAngelmantheres a program called bootx which helps older macs boot the cd so you can install linux but it only works under os9 & i only have os1003:31
Heijmenthoreauputic, ok thanxxx for the tip03:31
SadAngelmanive searched the net for hours but cant find any help on how to get the cd to boot under os1003:32
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uMbalaI installed Ubuntu 5.04 on my PC, and when it had to start the X window system, my monitor turned off and nothing happened after... Whatto do?03:33
pfpsoaz: at least with 'qtconfig' and 'kcontrol' but i dunno how much kde dependencies they have03:33
z|banditoSadAngelman did you try selecting it as the boot drive using system prefs-> startup disc?03:33
z|banditoor try holding option when booting to use openfirmware to display a list of boot devices03:33
z|bandito=p03:33
Vital303Where can I find 'kernel sources'?03:34
z|banditouMbala you can try looking at the boot options available when it first starts up, perhaps there is a boot option for your grfx system etc?03:34
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SadAngelmanit dosnt come up as startup disc or give me anything when holding option at startup03:35
thoreauputicVital303: apt-cache search linux-source03:35
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soazpfp: thank you for the tip. i'll try ..03:35
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z|banditoare you sure it's a good burn?03:35
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z|banditoopenfirmware should be able to do it without a mac os folder03:35
Vital303horeauputic: Thank you.03:35
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seifhmmmmmmmmmmmmm03:36
z|banditothough, i have a g3 that will no longer boot osx or linux, so you may just have some hw problem, with all due respect... it's been known to happen03:36
SadAngelmanits an offical cd ordered of the ubuntu website03:36
uMbalaz|bandito, it runs under recovery mode... but it doesnt recognize 'xinit', 'startx' or 'xstart'03:36
z|banditocan try resetting the pram maybe.. SadAngelman03:36
SadAngelmantried that as well with no luck03:36
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SadAngelmani can find many web sites with people saying there running ubuntu & os10 on a beige g3 just no help on how to get it installed03:38
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Snippyhello everyone03:38
SadAngelmanits driving me mad03:38
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BockBilbo:S anyone here knows why nautilus gets frozen every once in a while because of the nfs of smb mounted partition?03:39
BockBilbo:S03:39
uMbalaz|bandito, can ya help?03:40
thoreauputicSadAngelman: have you seen this? Might help.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs03:40
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joachimhi03:40
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z|banditouMbala sorry i'm not sure.. perhaps the installation failed, you could just try again.  i have a box that took a few attempts to get a good install03:40
joachimcan gparted run on warty? the ubuntu package site only has it for hoary & breezy03:40
trimethyhello all together03:41
z|banditoif you do, consider looking at the boot/installation options for something about graphics03:41
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Snippyhello trimethy03:41
z|banditosomeone else might know more, though03:41
SadAngelmanthat site isnt much help sorry03:41
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trimethyDoes anybody have some experiance with ubuntu on a powerbook ? More specific keyboard configuration ?03:42
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z|banditothere is a keyboard mapper in system prefs03:43
ralf_spricht jemand deutsch ?03:43
trimethyI'm struggeling with getting pbbuttons to work03:43
Tomcat__ralf_: #ubuntu-de03:43
vader1102trimethy:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38523.html03:43
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alfhi03:44
ralf_bekomme ubuntu nicht auf mein notebook03:44
alfkennt sich hier jemand mit wlan aus?03:44
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alfich bekomme mein pci-wlan nicht zum laufen03:45
vader1102<----only knows english03:45
alfoh sry03:45
vader1102ok03:45
alfi dont get running my wlan-pci-card (digitus)03:45
rommercan anyone help me change the select colour of gdm options from the default brown to match another theme, and also to take the ubuntu gnome loading screen (which shows loading panel etc) away or change it to something else?03:45
alfbad english - i know =)03:45
vader1102it id s digitus card?03:46
SnippyI've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?03:46
trimethyThx vader: but it's more related to the function keys, it seems that pbbuttonsd doesn't register my F* function keys.03:46
znhrommer: start gdmsetup, with sudo03:46
alfyes its a digitus03:46
rekajoachim: http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/x11/qtparted03:46
vader1102ok, hold on please03:46
rekajoachim: an alternative03:46
alfyes - ok03:46
wezzer-what if my friend has forgotten his password?03:46
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wezzer-how can he make a new user account?03:47
znhalf: how come the most german people can't speak english very well?03:47
soazpfp: qtconfig helped with the font size. and does not depend on anything beside libqt. now if i find out, how to apply qt themes without kde that would be great. but i think that will not be possible without kcontrol. but anyway the fonts are set. THANKS!03:47
trimethywezzer: boot in single user mode and reset03:47
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Random_Sindromhhf03:47
wezzer-trimethy: ok, thanks03:47
alfdunno03:47
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rommerznh, there is nothing about changing the option select colour there03:48
Random_Sindromhhf{{ij03:48
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rommeror chanign the loading screen03:48
vader1102alf: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List03:48
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znhrommer: you can change the splash-screen, and the theme03:48
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vader1102trimethy, sorry dude, just google for an answer, that;s how I got that03:48
pfpsoaz: great, glad to help .)03:48
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alfvader1102 - can we go in a seperate channel (alone)?03:49
joachimthanks reka :)03:49
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tyrchyushi03:49
vader1102alf: I prefer not to, I just got up and cannot focus real well03:49
rekajoachim: no worries03:49
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trimethyVader: I'm doeing this the last couple of days, but's a bit unclear, I compiled severel kenels with and whitout the fn key patch, doe you know perhaps which modules are required to get this to work ?03:50
alfok03:50
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trimethyAnd how I could start debuggin this ?03:50
tyrchyusin ubuntu-it he don't help me sorry for my english.....03:50
vader1102trimethy, just a sec03:50
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=== chtank has just installed version 4.1 and is testing it, intalled it to replace my broken Win2000pro on my old PII/300 machine
alfvader1102: what i have to do now?03:52
tyrchyusI have a multi function but the scanner don't go.....we understand?03:52
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toolshttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4282303:52
ralf_suche startdiskette fr ubuntu-CD03:52
toolshttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4282303:52
toolshttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4282303:52
thoreauputicchtank: for a speed up on that machine try xfce4 instead of gnome03:52
vader1102trimethy: here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34104.html03:52
thoreauputicchtank: but that needs you to install 5.04 I'd say03:52
vader1102alf: just follow the directions in that kink03:53
alfi have downloaded the right one and extracted it03:53
alfbut now....?03:53
concept10ban tools, thats spam03:53
trimethyVader: Thx, will give it an other try03:54
SnippyI've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?03:54
vader1102ok, so now keep the web page open and follow all of the directions03:54
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chtanktell me where I find that?  Is it on synaptic?  I have been using it, but it seems to be an old version of synaptic, I use the one on my PCLinuxOS (a mandrake desktop release)03:54
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thoreauputicchtank: as I said, xfce4 is probably only available on hoary ( 5.04) - at least the recent 4.203:55
alf??? well, i scrolled to my card: digitus dn-7001..... and downloaded it.03:55
vader1102thoreauputic, I used it on Warty03:55
thoreauputicchtank: I would enable the universe repository first, whatever WM you decide to use03:56
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thoreauputicvader1102: ah OK - wasn't sure03:56
vader1102ok, have yo downloaded the ndiswrapper program alf03:56
silvertearwhat is the postfix process called in ps -A?03:56
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seifhey guys03:57
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seifi want t odo another entry besides application places System and so on03:57
alfaahhm, yes - with the synaptic-package-manager03:57
vader1102does anyone here have the wireless how to for ubuntu?03:57
seifhow can i do that03:57
crashdvader1102: it's on the wiki03:57
crashdwiki.ubuntu.com03:57
pfpsilvertear: there are many, do ps auxw | grep postfix03:57
chtankok, thanks I will enable the unversal, I shall return here later since this is an old slow machine, thanks guys03:57
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vader1102yes crash, I had the complete url for it03:58
crashdumm03:58
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crashdwiki.ubuntu.com//WiFiHowto03:58
crashdprobably03:58
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vader1102brb03:58
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alfvader1102 - if i type: iwconfig i get the following....03:59
kri am using mozilla mail , anybody know if there exist any email notifiers to that program, that show up on my screen when i have got new mail,04:00
alflo   no wireless extensions               eth0   now wire.....                sit0   no wirel.......04:00
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SnippyI've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?04:02
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guardianxhow do you install a .deb package>???04:02
tiglionabbitdpkg --install04:02
crashddpkg -i package.deb04:02
kranybody????? email notifiers???? does it exist for ubuntu04:03
rekaguardianx: what is it?04:03
vader1102alf: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22645.html04:03
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rekakr: course there are04:04
rekaapt-cache search mail notifier04:04
guardianxreka - it is a packabe called /libnvtvsimple0_0.4.7-2ubuntu1_i386.deb i'm jus trying to get nvtv to work04:04
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krreka:in root terminal? i am new at this04:05
rekaguardianx: ok, just checking you weren't installing something you could apt-get04:05
rekakr: normal terminal04:05
alfvader1102 shall i do now what stacywebb tells?04:05
krthank you04:05
vader1102sure04:05
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namelesssdo ubuntu got a firewall ?04:05
namelesssintegrated04:05
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Aerotraceyes.04:05
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Aerotrace!firewall04:06
ubotuI heard firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.04:06
namelesssit is the reason that a cannot send a ping demand ?04:06
delmerHELLO04:06
Aerotracenameless: What happens when you ping?04:06
namelesssnothing04:06
namelesssthat's the problem04:06
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Aerotracethats not helpfull04:06
AerotraceDoes it not resolve the address?04:06
namelesssi ve got ip of my friend for a try04:06
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namelesssso i send a ip request04:06
delmerOK04:06
namelesssand all paquet lost04:06
AerotraceDoes it say "Command unrecognised"04:06
namelesssno no04:07
AerotraceNamelesss: Try pinging google.com04:07
namelesssit works lol04:07
krreka: now i have done that, what do i do now to get it working04:07
Aerotraceso its your freidn who has the problem.04:07
tchmnkySo, can anybody tell me what's wrong with ALSA when aplay gives this message?:04:08
tchmnkyWarning: rate is not accurate (requested = 44100Hz, got = 48000Hz)04:08
tchmnky         please, try the plug plugin (-Dplug:dmixer)04:08
seifhow do i add a new entry in the gnome panel besides "Applications" "Places" "System"04:08
eruinI like the way gaim 2.0 rolls the window smoothy when a new message arrives in chat04:08
Aerotracedoes this happen with every song?04:08
eruinor is that gtk2.7 ?04:08
eruinseif, rightclick04:08
eruinon a vacant spot04:08
tchmnkyAerotrace, it happens on all wave files, and things using alsa to play sounds play with 'Chipmunk Syndrome'. IE: Wrong samplerate.04:09
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seifwhat right click04:09
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seiffor example i want04:09
rekakr: have you chosen one to install?04:09
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seif"applications system places and ... games04:10
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kri wrote what you told me to, an  thats all04:10
Kyralhey how would I set a Cronjob to run "sudo slocate -u /" every day at 4 AM?04:11
sorush20guys how can I run safe mode thunderbird on ubuntu04:11
Aerotracetchmnky: I'm not sure, make sure it has the right plugins, or use a diffrent output plugin.04:11
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rekakr: that only searches for packages that have descriptions/names with 'mail' and 'notifier' in their strings04:11
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Aerotrace*right decoders04:11
rekakr: did you get a list?04:11
krjust a minute and i can copy what i got04:12
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tchmnkyHm. I'll try and get a default ALSA config going again, and see if that works -- I used the hardware mixing config file from ubuntuforums.org...04:12
AerotraceKyral: Why not? ^_^04:12
tchmnkySeems to have broken it. \o/04:12
Kyraleh?04:12
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KyralAerotrace, eh?04:12
krreka:bbmail - Mail notifier for Blackbox04:13
krcoolmail - Mail notifier with 3d graphics04:13
krmelon - Mail notifier with configurable icons, xbiff replacement04:13
krxlassie - Dockable mail notifier w/ message count & POP3/APOP/IMAP support04:13
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thoreauputicKyral: there should already be a cron job by default to do updatedb fro the locate command, if that's what you are wanting to do04:13
AerotraceKyral: Oops, nevermind.04:14
SnippyI've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?04:14
rekakr: don't paste in here please04:14
Kyralthoreauputic, yah04:14
Kyralhow do I check on that04:14
AerotraceSnippy: Checked the volume control app?04:14
rekakr: now do: apt-cache show <package> replacing package with the one you want to look at04:14
KyralI know alot about Linux, but I don't know squat about Cronjobs :P04:14
SnippyAerotrace, yep.04:14
rekae.g. apt-cache show xlassie04:14
seifhow do i add a new entry in the gnome panel besides "Applications" "Places" "System"04:14
thoreauputicKyral: /etc/crontab probably - although I think it's anacron in Ubuntu04:14
AerotraceSnippy: No idea.04:14
rekakr: (i'd try xlassie 1st)04:14
seifhow do i add a new menu in the gnome panel besides "Applications" "Places" "System"04:14
SnippyAerotrace, ok..04:14
AerotraceLine out? You mean like, MIDI ports?04:15
Snippyno the simple line out of my sound card04:15
Snippythe line out jack04:15
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Snippyits like a second jack for the speakers04:15
AerotracePCM, maybe? No idea really.04:15
AerotraceYeh, its PCM, cause my speakers are plugged into that04:15
Snippyalsamixer -> everything checked..04:16
Kyralthoreauputic, its there, nm :D04:16
AerotraceBTW Snippy, its me, Stormx. I just wanted to have a nick that wasn't registered.04:16
Snippyoh04:17
Snippylol04:17
Snippyhello :)04:17
krreka:  ok i have done that , what next04:17
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rekakr: is it to your liking?04:19
kryes04:19
rekakr: then: sudo apt-get install xlassie04:19
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rekakr: btw, if you want to use a graphical application to install packages instead of using commands like how i've taught you, there is a program called synaptic04:20
rekasystem > admin > synaptic04:20
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kri know about synaptic, didnt know what to search for there, now its installed, do i just exit terminal and ist ok04:21
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rekakr: if nothing showed up in the apps > internet menu, then try running xlassie through the terminal04:22
KyralI cannot believe there is no commandline Prepend function for text files04:24
krwhat  do i write in terminal, did not show in apps04:24
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KyralWait....04:24
rekakr: try 'xlassie'04:24
Kyralthats gonna be hard to do in C++04:24
krok it came up a small window in upper left corner whith a number in it04:25
dazjorzhello04:25
dazjorzi've got a little question04:26
Kyrallets see, need to include <string> and <iostream>....04:26
dazjorzjust for ehh,.. luxery04:26
dazjorzis it possible to make a screen like the tty's04:26
dazjorzthat if I do alt+f12 or something04:26
dazjorzthat you see a bmp image stored somewhere04:26
dazjorzfor example,. a terminal that shows an image fullscreen without a key to exit it ?04:27
kri suppose that is the notifier and the number is unread emails04:27
rekakr: probably...what's the number?04:27
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kr504:28
rekakr: open up mozilla mail and see how many emails are unread04:28
thoreauputicdazjorz: from a tty you could do for instance startx /usr/bin/feh -ZF somepic.png -- :1 to have an image display on tty8 (needs feh installed)04:29
krdo i exit terminal, i had 1 new email04:29
dazjorzthoreauputic: Thanks, i'll try that04:30
dazjorzBut, erm,..04:30
dazjorzthat starts the X server ?04:30
rekakr: b/c you ran xlassie through terminal, it would probably close it if you exit04:30
thoreauputicdazjorz: you can run any app that way - yes it starts an xserver on tty804:30
dazjorzI don't want that luxery to make the server even a bit slower04:30
dazjorzactually...04:30
krmaybe i can restart the computer and se what happens04:31
rekakr: i'll leave you to play with it.  if it's not good enough, try one of the others out there.04:31
krthank you my friend04:31
dazjorzthoreauputic: is it possible to display an image without X-server04:31
dazjorz?04:31
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thoreauputicdazjorz: hmm - framebuffer I guess - never tried it04:31
dazjorzOK04:32
dazjorzThanks for your help :)04:32
dazjorz!framebuffer04:32
ubotudazjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?04:32
thoreauputicnp04:32
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peter_hello04:34
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asfrahi, I'm using alsa as my sound output, but only one program can use it at one time. How can I fix that?04:37
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reka!sound04:37
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206304:37
rekaasfra: i used that.  ymmv04:37
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asfrareka, I'm not following.. what do you mean?04:38
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rekaasfra: follow the link ubotu spat out04:38
asfrareka, ok04:38
ZincXis there a quicktime plugin ?04:39
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thoreauputic!multimedia04:39
ubotuwell, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia04:39
Snippy!ntfs04:39
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:39
SubfixAny experienced Ubuntu users care to give me hand with my USB mouse?04:39
thoreauputicZincX: read ubotu 's URL04:39
asfra!sound04:39
ubotuwell, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206304:39
ZincXthoreauputic, k04:39
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thoreauputicZincX: there are several ways to get quicktime working04:40
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thoreauputicZincX: you need w32codecs04:40
Snippy!love04:40
ubotufrom memory, love is life04:40
Snippylol04:40
thoreauputic!w32codecs04:40
asfrahehe04:40
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org )04:40
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asfra!mplayer04:40
ubotuI heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto04:40
Snippy!hate04:40
ubotuSnippy: Wish i knew04:40
kemik!vlc04:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support04:40
asfra!women04:40
Snippy:D04:40
ubotuasfra: Are you smoking crack?04:40
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Snippy!ccc04:41
ubotuWish i knew, Snippy04:41
Hg80someone tell me what system monitor this is http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=17463&file1=17463-1.jpg&file2=17463-2.jpg&file3=17463-3.jpg&name=Metal4kde04:41
kemikapokryphos:  still like vlc? ;)04:41
asfra!marriage04:41
ubotuasfra: I don't know, could you explain it?04:41
apokryphoskemik: decent enough, yeah. Realised yesterday that a friend of mine on Windoze uses it too04:41
rekaguys, if you want to play with ubotu /msg it04:41
asfra!windows04:41
ubotuit has been said that windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative04:41
eruinlol, that looks like an apple computer gone bad04:42
rekastop spamming the channel04:42
kemikmmh it's multiplatform =)04:42
Snippylol04:42
anacronhelp help, my usb mouse won't work anymore, what modules to load? i did modprobe usbhid already04:42
asfrareka:  sorry04:42
kemikhmm04:42
kemik!alternative04:42
ubotufrom memory, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant04:42
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Subfixanacron: My USB Mouse doesn't work either, but it never has..04:42
Snippy!cedega04:42
ubotuit has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega04:42
Subfixand I can't find any information regarding it...04:43
ZincXthoreauputic, is there quicktime plugin for firefox ?04:43
KyralHas anyone tried EnlightenedGnome?04:43
ZincXthoreauputic, got it.. thanx :D04:44
kemikZincX:  you should be able to play .mov files with either mplayer or videolan04:44
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Snippy!windows04:44
ubotuI heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative04:44
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eruintotem-xine and w32codecs = *bliss04:44
travellerthere's a small beeping sound whenever a key is pressed, is there a way i can stop that?04:44
kemikeruin:  hardly.. try videolan instead04:44
eruinkemik, videolan doesnt supply a neat firefox plugin04:45
eruinthat just works04:45
kemikdunno. i'm using mplayer as my firefox plugin04:45
thoreauputickemik: people's experience varies with videolan/vlc - xine works best for me here for example04:45
kemikthoreauputic:  that's crazy-talk! :)04:45
rekatraveller: sys > prefs > sound > system bell04:45
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thoreauputickemik: YMMV04:46
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asfra!dvd04:46
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ubotuit has been said that dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem04:46
travellerreka: it's not the system bell because it's coming from my speakers, and it beeps everytime a key is pressed, or the repeat starts to kick in04:46
Subfixjust think of it as a typewriter feature :D04:47
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travellerSubfix: it's getting annoying :/04:47
Subfixyeah. i'll bet. sorry I can't help :|04:47
dazjorzerm04:48
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dazjorzhow do I get a console that starts a specific order at boot04:48
ompaulwhat are the properties of the trash can on the panel?04:48
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guardianxcan some1 in here show me how nvtv work?? i could never get it to display on the tv propertly04:48
Subfixanyone know what the problem might be with my USB Mouse not doing anything at all? I've tried messing with the xorg.conf, but frankly I don't know what I'm doing all that well there.04:48
dazjorzfor example, a virtual console that runs /bin/dothis04:49
rekaompaul: need more info04:49
dazjorzthat you can access by pressing alt+f1204:49
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ompaulreka, right click on the bin and tell me the command line that is used from the heading propertiex04:49
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ompaulreka,  properties please04:49
thoreauputicdazjorz: I think you need to be logged in first04:50
jsgotangcohey all04:50
guardianxhow do i make my unbunto box see my windows network??? ( my pc can see and wire files to my unbuntu box alredy )04:50
_silvertearhey, when i check mail in with kmail, i get Error Transmission Failed: could not lock /var/mail/silvertear.lock04:50
rekaompaul: there is no properties option available04:50
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thoreauputicjsgotangco: hi there :)04:50
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dazjorzthreauputic: Ermm, it loads at boot.04:50
rekaompaul: it's probably just nautilus with directory set as ~/.Trash04:50
jsgotangcothoreauputic: hi!04:50
_silvertearwhat permissions should i cahnge to fix it?04:51
jsgotangcothoreauputic: err..shouldn't you be sleeping by now :)04:51
thoreauputicdazjorz: erm - how can anything be run until you have a shell ?04:51
_silverteari did a sudo chmod +x /var/mail, but it didn't work04:51
ompaulreka, solved :) right clicked on panel and used Add to Panel - after that it was a matter of lock to panel04:51
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guardianxow do i make my unbunto box see my windows network??? ( my pc can see and write files to my unbuntu box alredy )04:51
thoreauputicjsgotangco: heh - of course ;)04:51
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Subfixguardianx, which windows version?04:51
rekaompaul: then the question would've been, how do i add the trash can to the panel. :-/04:51
_silvertearguardianx: try looking at smb://workgroup/04:51
AmaranthWow. That's the worst spelling of Ubuntu I've seen yet.04:52
jsgotangcolol04:52
Subfixamaranth, I have a habit of ubunto ...04:52
ompaulreka, well when you told me there were no properties I had to figure what was the next thing I would do, so I right clicked and it became obvious04:52
guardianxsubfix - the pc workgoup name is goku ....... and it is on window xp04:52
dazjorzthoreaputic: I don't think you have to be logged in to execute a command. But, though, I just want alt+F12 to display an image. I already have a program that displays it. I want Alt+F12 do display that04:52
_silvertearmaybe GET smb://guku/ ? i'm not sure though04:53
kaffeendIs there a default root password I can use to run an app?04:53
kaffeendto install rather04:53
guardianxsilvertear - do i type that into  shell?04:53
thoreauputicdazjorz: you don't have to be logged in to run a command - I just don't know how you can get a display without a login: maybe it's possible, dunno04:53
_silvertearwell i tried it, but i got that smb protocol not supported04:53
_silvertearso maybe try your web browser04:53
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_silvertearif i put smb://workgroup/comp/sharedfolder i get like a ftp-type thing04:54
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asfra!java04:54
thoreauputicdazjorz: I guess alt-F12 would be -- :5 though04:54
_silvertearany luck?04:55
dazjorzthoreaputic: I think I know how to connect a tty to a F-key04:55
kaffeendno bot?04:55
dazjorzerrm /etc/inittab ?04:55
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thoreauputicdazjorz: I'm not psychic and I don't know what you may or may not know - I was just trying to help04:55
dazjorz ????04:56
SubfixAnyone have any ideas as to why my out-of-the-box USB mouse doesn't work in ubuntu?04:56
dazjorzthoreaputic ???04:56
thoreauputicdazjorz: sorry I thought you were pointing out that knowing -- :5 was tty12 was obvious: misunderstanding I guess04:57
rekaSubfix: what model?04:57
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Subfixreka: it's a logitech, i'm not sure of the model... I never paid attention to the model of my mouse... all I know is that it's a 2 button+scroll wheel(and button) optical mouse04:58
dazjorzthoreaputic: Sorry, since 3 sentances ago, I don't understand you anymore.. Could you explain ?04:58
kaffeendIs there a default root password I can use to install an app please, anyone?04:58
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Subfixit's nothing fancy..04:58
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_silvertearkaffeend: do you know about sudo?04:58
rekaSubfix: tries unplugging it at boot, and then plugging it in after login?04:58
guardianxhow do i view views on a window network the network name is  goku04:58
reka*tried04:58
kaffeend_silvertear yes kinda04:58
kaffeend_silvertear I'm a n00b04:59
thoreauputicdazjorz: I was just pointing out that (if) you wanted an x-server on tty12 it would be for example startx -- :504:59
Subfixreka, no, but I have unplugged it/replugged it in.. only after it was all started up though...04:59
_silvertear"sudo synaptic" lets you install apps precompiled and configured for ubuntu04:59
Subfixreka: would I have to do that every time? :(04:59
dazjorzthoreauputic: I just found this in inittab: F-key : something :respawn: command04:59
rekaSubfix: no, guess that's equivalent04:59
kaffeend_silvertear yup04:59
dazjorzthoreauputic: would that be: 12:23:respawn:/bin/showwarning05:00
rekaSubfix: search ubuntuforums.org while you wait05:00
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_silvertearhey, i'm a n00b too, i came here trying to find out how to fetch mail from /var/mail/silvertear05:00
Subfixreka: yeah I looked all of there and googled05:00
dazjorzthoreauputic: I'm not running X-window i think -- I'm trying to run an SDL application05:00
guardianxhow do i view views on a window network the network name is  goku05:00
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Subfixreka: i came here hoping for an answer, but I also have a post on the forum, hopefully someone'll help...   they had me paste my xorg.conf but no replies after that :)05:01
kaffeend_silvertear I'm specifically trying to install Enemy Territory on a amd64 system05:01
digitalslaveanyone have sound issude with an audigy 2?05:01
guardianxhow do i view files  on a window network the network name is  goku - ultimately i would like to watch movies file from there i dont want to download it to my ubuntu box05:01
thoreauputicdazjorz: I don't know anything about SDL except that it exists: something to do with games?05:01
_silvertearkaffeend: do you have the source?05:01
digitalslavesound is on and you can hear it thud when starting up but no sound in X05:01
rekaguardianx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba maybe?05:01
kaffeend_silvertear I dunno05:01
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rekaSubfix: well, i'm not sure, sorry.  Good luck though, don't give up.05:02
dazjorzthoreauputic: I don't know much about SDL either, only that it has something with graphics,.. It can show a BMP file and it is for C++,05:02
Subfixreka: Thanks for the effort05:02
guardianxreka- i after reading that place i was able to make my window see the unbuntu box..... but i couldnt get my unbuntu box to see the windows pc... what did i do wrong?05:02
kaffeend_silvertear I just have what I d/loaded05:03
_silvertearis it in .tar.gz format?05:03
rekaguardianx: wrong person to ask...i have no clue about networking05:03
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rekadigitalslave: not even syhstem sounds?05:03
reka*system05:04
digitalslavenope05:04
digitalslavejust a terminal beep05:04
kaffeend_silvertear It's a shell script I think05:04
kaffeend.run05:04
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_silvertearif .run is the filename, cd into that directory and do "./.run"05:05
kaffeendk05:05
digitalslaveit does how ever recognize the sound card and sounds are enabled but no shound05:06
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Subfixguardianx: XP Pro or Home? ... if XP try turning off 'simple file sharing'05:06
guardianxsubfix i have win xp05:06
Subfixpro or home05:07
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_silverteardigitalslave: i had that problem, i opened up kmix (kde mixer) and just turned on some dials, and it worked. did you try playing with the mixer?05:07
guardianxpro05:07
digitalslaveyes mixer looks good05:07
Subfixdisable 'simple file sharing' ... i read it on some forum concerning the topic05:07
Subfixin XP Pro that is... i'm not sure where it's at though :)05:07
guardianx:(05:07
_silverteardigitalslave: sry then i don't know. alsaconf and mixer are the only two things i know about sound on linux05:07
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_silvertearugh ugly underscore in name05:08
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priestis there a way to start a program minimized in gnome?05:08
guardianxwell right now my unbuntu box can ftp into my window box but in order to view the movie files it have to download the movie b4 opening it05:08
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Oniano|iBookhey... http://pastebin.arslinux.com/221605:08
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Oniano|iBookcould somebody have a look at that05:08
Subfixguardianx: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;30404005:09
Subfixphft05:09
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Oniano|iBookthats from /var/log/syslog just before gnome freezes05:09
Oniano|iBookduring log in05:09
Emanuelezhello05:09
digitalslave__silvertear you have an audigy2?05:09
EasterSunshineyep05:09
djp,imagemagick05:10
Emanuelezi'm downloading hoary cd to install it on a presario r3000 notebook. is there anything i should be careful of?05:10
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digitalslave_hmm dont know why it doesnt work05:10
dazjorzCan I get a C++ program to display an image fullscreen on the console ?05:10
SubfixEmanuelez: USB mice.   j/k05:10
kaffeend_silvertear I launched the game but it says "The recommended install colation (usr/local/games) requires root permissions." and asks for a password. That's where I'm lost :s05:10
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SnippyEmanuelez, check if the hardware is compatible first05:10
dazjorzCan I get a C++ program to display an image fullscreen on the console,  W I T H O U T   X-window ?05:11
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rekadazjorz: no05:11
crashddazjorz: using framebuffer05:11
rekaor maybe yes :)05:11
dazjorzchrasd: How do I put an image on the framebuffer ?05:11
crashddazjorz: someone else will have already wrote it05:11
EmanuelezSnippy, as gar as i could find on google the main problem is the card readre but i don't care much about it05:11
crashdthe program you seek05:11
crashdcheck freshmeat05:11
crashdor05:11
sorush20guys how do I hotplug a laserjet 1000 printer.. can anyone help please.. its just that this printer needs to have its firmware uploaded every time it tries to print..05:11
crashdgoogle for "using the linux framebuffer"05:11
dazjorzcrashd: Where do I find it ?05:11
EasterSunshinekaffeend: then try "sudo ./.run" but be careful, with sudo, the script can do anything to your comp05:11
SnippyEmanuelez, you may try with a live-cd of ubuntu first05:12
jfk303heyko_, I want to get the RubyOnRails framework, I read the easiest way is to download it using rubygems. Can I apt-get for RubyGems?05:12
apokryphosdazjorz: of course05:12
EasterSunshineyou'll need your user password05:12
bateauhey! i got this problem with X, when i logg in, nothing happens. im now running in "safemode" or what its called. is there a way to reset X or somthing? i must have changed something, but i dont know what :x05:12
jfk303 I want to get the RubyOnRails framework, I read the easiest way is to download it using rubygems. Can I apt-get for RubyGems?05:12
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apokryphosdazjorz: konsole, e/aterm etc etc05:12
kaffeendeastersunshine k...05:12
digitalslave_also cant find the kernel source anyway so i can install up to date nvidia drivers05:12
Fireso how do you start rc-sripts05:12
Emanuelezis it possible toinstall a lightweight window manager on ubuntu? something like xfce or icewm?05:12
crashdEmanuelez: read the howto/guide05:12
SnippyEmanuelez, yes05:12
crashdit tells you how to use xfce in there05:12
thoreauputicapokryphos: no, he means in a tty outside of X05:12
FireI want start popfile, but it doesn't seem to start there05:12
dazjorzapokryphos: -.-' the console without any X-window. -.-'05:13
thoreauputicEmanuelez: sure05:13
Emanuelezcool05:13
apokryphos:|05:13
Emanuelez:)05:13
kaffeendeastersunshine says command not found05:13
Snippy;)05:13
rekabateau: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:13
dazjorzapokryphos: I said that.05:13
Emanuelezcrashd, thank u :)05:13
crashdno's Emanuelez05:13
crashdnp's, rather05:13
EasterSunshinedid you sudo back into that same directory where .run was?05:13
crashdit's been a long time :\05:13
bateauthanx reka :D ill try it out05:13
crashdday! long day!05:13
EasterSunshinei mean, did you cd back into it?05:13
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EasterSunshineor is sudo not found? cause if sudo is not found...then i don't think you are using ubuntu...05:14
ouroboros1827lol05:14
Chousukedazjorz: With framebufer it is possible I guess.05:14
Chousukedazjorz: using the fbi program05:14
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Chousukebuffer*05:15
kaffeendeastersunshine um, sudo: ./.run: command not found05:15
ChousukeDamn I hate lag05:15
thoreauputickaffeend: if you want to runs a .run file, either make it executable with chmod +x then run ./file.run, or run it with  sh file.run05:15
EasterSunshinehe needs root permissions05:15
kaffeendthoreauputic thanks :P05:15
digitalslave_anyone know what the kernel source is called exactly?05:16
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LinuxJonesdigitalslave, linux-source05:16
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apokryphosLinuxJones: hey, long time no see :)05:17
digitalslave_thanks - yippie now nvidia graphics here i come05:17
Subfixhmm05:17
EasterSunshinehey, anyone how to fix it that kmail complains: cannot lock /var/mail/silvertear?05:18
LinuxJonesapokryphos, hi where have you been :)05:18
apokryphosdigitalslave_: you can just apt for it05:18
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digitalslave_if you know what its called05:18
apokryphosLinuxJones: I was off for a few months (exams), but I've been back now for at least a month or so. :)05:18
digitalslave_installing with synaptic right now05:18
kaffeendthoreauputic I'm just getting stuck on: ----- Client Initialization Complete -----05:18
kaffeend----- R_Init -----05:18
kaffeend...loading libGL.so.1: Received signal 11, exiting...05:18
apokryphosdigitalslave_: the nvidia driver, that is.05:18
LinuxJonesapokryphos, I hope everything went well.05:19
thoreauputickaffeend: that's a segfault - a crash05:19
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apokryphosLinuxJones: not too bad, I thought. Will find out on the 18th. Missed a lot while I was away, but have catched up pretty much now. Where've you been?05:19
kaffeendthoreauputic I can see that ;)05:19
Snippyhey LinuxJones ;)05:19
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digitalslave_upgrading to 7667 from nvidia site - faster than common 717405:19
guardianxis there a good newsreader for ubuntu???05:20
thoreauputickaffeend: a segfault usually means a bug in the program, so.... you may be out of luck: did you prepend "sudo" ?05:20
thoreauputicguardianx: pan05:20
EasterSunshineguardianx: pan05:20
LinuxJonesapokryphos, I have been working my skinny behind off 10 hours a day doing manual labour...rather tired when I get home each night :D05:20
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guardianxdo i have to install pan ?05:20
apokryphosdigitalslave_: could you LMK if that goes alright? =)05:20
apokryphosdigitalslave_: may do it as well05:21
EasterSunshinesudo apt-get install pan?05:21
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digitalslave_LMK?05:21
apokryphosLinuxJones: it's all worth it when the pay-check comes05:21
digitalslave_let me know - oh yeah05:21
kaffeendthoreauputic no, I just double-clicked the et.sh file I'd already unpacked LOL05:21
LinuxJonesapokryphos, true but I hurt my back on wednesday and it's not getting much better :(05:21
digitalslave_look like i will have to install at run level 1 - hopefully the right services will be running05:21
ZincXhey.. i dont have mplayer-38605:21
ZincXon my list05:21
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guardianxafter i run the command sudo apt-get install pan ....... how do i get pan to run??05:22
apokryphosLinuxJones: darn :(. Lift from the feet. My dad has slight back-injuries too. Can be a dodgy business.05:22
EasterSunshinetype in pan maybe05:22
EasterSunshineinto a shell05:22
digitalslave_type pan05:22
thoreauputickaffeend: you don't want to run et as root, that's for sure - so don't run it with sudo ;)05:22
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LinuxJonesguardianx, hit alt + F2 then type pan (it will auto-complete for you)05:22
digitalslave_should pauto complete after apt05:22
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EasterSunshineor you can probably find it in applications://05:22
rekaZincX: enable multiverse05:22
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kaffeendthoreauputic I don't?05:22
ZincXreka, i think its enabled05:23
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charlonetslt05:23
EasterSunshinei mean, programs://05:23
dazjorzThe installation of Flash Player asks me for a browser path, what do I fill in for Konqueror ?05:23
digitalslave_grr need sound so i can play games :(05:23
LinuxJonesapokryphos, I'm sure i have just strained a muscle but it sucks ;)05:23
charlonetya quelqu'un qui parle franais ici05:23
thoreauputickaffeend: erm - you don't run apps/games as root, no05:23
rekaZincX: double check05:23
apokryphosIndeed.05:23
dazjorzcharlonet: un peu05:23
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charlonetok05:23
reka!fr05:23
thoreauputickafeine: I thought you were still installing it05:23
ubotu[fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais05:23
kaffeendthoreauputic ok then05:23
charlonetj'ai besoin d'aide05:23
dazjorz!nl05:23
ubotuI haven't a clue, dazjorz05:23
charlonetpr installer kde05:24
dazjorz!nl05:24
charlonetsur ubuntu05:24
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dazjorzhe doesnt even know dutch05:24
SudoPusHey all....looking for specific information using Ubuntu/Kubuntu to rip and transcode dvd...Googling only reveals outdated information...and I don't want to chance mixing deb packages that are not packaged for Ubuntu...any suggestions?05:24
dazjorz!nl05:24
thoreauputiccharlonet:  /join #ubuntu-fr05:24
dazjorz!dutch05:24
ubotuI don't know, dazjorz05:24
charlonetklk pourrai m'aider05:24
dazjorzpff05:24
digitalslave_should i install libesd-also0 for the audigy2?05:24
dazjorzWhere is Konqueror installed ?05:24
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digitalslave_it would remove libesd005:24
ZincXreka, its in /etc/apt rite ?05:24
BoosterYo05:24
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LinuxJonesdazjorz, in console type whereis konqueror05:24
thoreauputiccharlonet: tu pourras trouvez de l'aide en francais sur le canal #ubuntu-fr05:25
dazjorzthanks, linuxjones05:25
thoreauputic*trouver05:25
apokryphosdazjorz: all over the place. Why?05:25
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rekaZincX: soureces.list? yes05:25
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BoosterHey, in wine, it complains that it can't find DLLs. How can I tell it their in the same directory as the EXE?05:25
charlonetmerci05:25
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ZincXreka, #deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:25
chtankI am having all kinds of problems with Synaptic, I will wait for my new install cd and install it, then try again05:25
ZincXi shud enable that line ? is it ?05:26
dazjorzlinuxjones / apokryphos: The Flash installation program asks me for a directory where Konqueror is installed. /usr/bin/konqueror says that that is not a directory, /usr/bin tells me that its not a valid path05:26
charlonetslt05:26
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rekaZincX: er, think that's backports ... hang on05:26
Subfixanyone have any tips for getting my USB mouse to work ?05:26
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apokryphosdazjorz: to get flash running on Konqueror just install flashplayer-mozilla05:26
firestormHi. How can I see if sendmail is installed from the command line?05:26
leonI installed a firewire card in my PC. Kino says that raw1294 module isnt installed or that /dev/raw1394 isnt rewritable. How do I find out what the problem is and how do I fix this? Thank you.05:26
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chtankthanks for your help guys, but synaptic used for Ubuntu does not pick up all the required dependancies05:26
rekaZincX:05:26
rekadeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse05:27
rekadeb-src ftp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse05:27
dazjorzapokryphos: E: Could not find package flashplayer-mozilla05:27
dazjorz!flashplayer05:27
ubotudazjorz: I haven't a clue05:27
apokryphosdazjorz: enable Multiverse05:27
chtanksee you later05:27
dazjorz!search flashplayer05:27
ubotudazjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?05:27
dazjorz!find flashplayer05:27
apokryphosdazjorz: well, Universe actually05:27
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB05:27
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apokryphosheh, I guess not05:27
rekaZincX: might want to remove the au if you want05:27
dazjorzApokryphos: Thought I had that already..?05:27
LinuxJonesdazjorz, install them into your /home/user/.mozilla/plugins folder then tell konqueror to look in there for the plugins05:27
apokryphosubotu: Multiverse is not enabled, no, if you don't find it.05:27
ubotu...but multiverse is already something else...05:27
thoreauputicapokryphos: anything non-free like flash --> multiverse05:27
apokryphosLinuxJones: it does that automatically ;-)05:28
apokryphosthoreauputic: yah05:28
Firecan anyone run popfile?05:28
unsec1I am still having problems getting this wecam to go. But making progress. My tail of woe is shown here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=290518#post29051805:28
unsec1webcom05:28
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unsec1webcam05:28
FireI'm looking for people who have it working05:28
dazjorzLinuxJones / Apokryphos: I changed sources,list, the cdrom was at the top and now its commented, but still it can't find the package flashplayer-mozilla05:29
LinuxJonesapokryphos, it's been a long time since I ran kde and am going from memory...which is not working too well ATM :)05:29
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apokryphosdazjorz: no, you have to add the Universe repository. Uncomment the line with "multiverse"05:29
thoreauputicdazjorz: you can configure konq plugins from the konq preferences - ther's a plugin dialogue in there somewhere05:29
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firestormHi. 'apt-get install qmail' doesn't work. Any hints?05:29
apokryphosdazjorz: or, add "multiverse" to the line that has "universe"05:29
SubfixAnyone use a basic USB mouse that could privmsg me their xorg.conf mouse section or somethin'? :D05:29
dazjorzApokryphos: OK05:29
apokryphosLinuxJones: pretty well, I'd say. That would be the process for some other plugins, indeed ;-)05:30
ZincXreka, no luck05:30
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thoreauputicSubfix: a USB mouse should "just work" as soon as you plug it in...05:30
kestashow do I enable the NX bit in Hoary?05:30
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Subfixthoreauputic: : Yeah... so I heard .. doesn't seem to be the case for me though. I don't know why05:30
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thoreauputicSubfix: :( hmmm05:31
dazjorzApokryphos: Hoppa, it works, thanks05:31
Subfixthoreauputic: it's quite annoying, I want to try Ubuntu instead of this Mandriva...05:31
leonHow do I install new pci cards?05:31
apokryphosdazjorz: cool. As a note, you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC05:31
Doomhammerleon: google for "installing PCI cards howto"05:31
thoreauputicSubfix: I would assume this is handled by hotplug... dunno05:31
guardianxman this is my last day with linux........ i'm goin  back to windows.... i cant fight the system * frown *05:32
dazjorzapokryphos: Huh ? Thanks, I didnt know that.05:32
Doomhammergaurdianx: noooo! don't go back to the Dark Side!05:32
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apokryphosdazjorz: it comes in very handy, yup :)05:32
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guardianxi spend days tryijng to get the movies out to the tv and i cant05:32
dazjorzapokryphos: It doesnt work for my own username :S05:33
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Firesigh, gentoo is complicated, but ubuntu is all shiny, but lacks in apps :/05:33
dazjorzdazjorz05:33
dazjorzhuh :S05:33
apokryphosdazjorz: the client makers presuppose that you won't be talking to yourself ;-)05:33
leonHow do I install the firewire module?05:33
guardianxi install nvtv was able to get the  the tv out to work but could never get the movie to fit in the tv........05:33
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DoomhammerFire: well then install some apps05:33
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thoreauputicguardianx: something to do with v4l - video for linux? Just guessing05:33
Doomhammerleon: it should already be installed05:33
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guardianxthorea - i'm jus trying to view movies on the tv05:34
digitalslave_i have sound!!!!!!!!!05:34
guardianxi could never get the whole movie to fit on the tv05:34
digitalslave_audigy 2 was stuck on digital instead of analog05:34
guardianxit is always too big05:34
digitalslave_sheesh05:34
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FireDoomhammer some apps aren't in apt-get ^^05:34
dazjorzWhy do I have to use sudo apt-get and not just apt-get05:34
dazjorzCant I give myself access to the lockfile ?05:34
guardianxi'm jus about to reboot and head back to the windows camp i jus cant fight the system05:34
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guardianx*frown *05:35
Firelike that ivan rpg game thingy05:35
unsec1I just tried my webcam with VLC for gtk+ and my screen went black05:35
m0td> abi@smaug:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper05:35
m0td> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:35
m0td> abi@smaug:~$ apt-get install linux-source05:35
unsec1couldn't alt tab backspace out of it either05:35
apokryphosdazjorz: installing packages is a system-wide thing, hence -- root privileges05:35
m0tdhey guys, I'm trying to get ndiswrapper working. When I run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" at the command line, though, I get this error:05:35
m0td(the one above)05:35
m0tdsorry for the multiline05:35
apokryphosm0td: apt-cache search linux-source   -- then select your relevant one05:35
delireanyone interested in a Firefox speedup should look here. it really works: http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-5810446.html?tag=nl.e01105:35
m0tdyeah, as you can see I just tried downloading it as I came in here ;-)05:36
m0tdI'm getting it now05:36
m0tdthanks apokryphos05:36
Subfixwell. I'm off to try and figure out this mouse some more :D05:36
m0tdwow... I could get used to conversation05:36
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m0tdI'm an old xchat fiend, but I just gave it a try when I started setting my sister's computer up with ubuntu05:36
digitalslave_now if i can figure out how to install deb files i'll be rocking (used to use mandrake until it was too out of date)05:36
guardianxbye my fellow linux user but i'm going back to the dark side.....  i was a linux user for two days........05:36
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apokryphosm0td: [k] onversation ;-)05:37
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m0tdlol05:37
apokryphosguardianx: adieu05:37
delirehehe05:37
m0td^_^05:37
thoreauputicguardianx: give it a few weeks before you give up :)05:37
m0td:yeahthat:05:37
delireguardianx: good luck05:37
m0tdwill I need to reboot after install the linux source pacakge?05:37
kestasdeserters are shot05:37
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m0tdwill I also need linux headers?05:37
thoreauputicguardianx: see you when you get sick of bondage ;)05:37
m0tdthe modprobe is still erroring05:37
m0tdthoreauputic: masochism too ;-)05:38
apokryphosm0td: are you following the wiki on how to install it?05:38
dazjorzis there a KDE SSH client ?05:38
guardianxi jus cant get  the dam nvtv to to work propertly. cant get it the movies to fit neatly on the tv. and i cant find help for it05:38
djpthoreauputic: lol05:38
m0tdapokryphos: I was, but it didn't say anything about the linux headers/source05:38
Fireso has anyone here used popfile on ubuntu?05:38
m0tdor I just didn't read carefully05:38
apokryphosm0td: I have no idea if it does; just noticed you were trying to install linux-headers05:38
thoreauputicdazjorz: use konqueror - type fish://hostname05:38
avsrerHi. I just installed Ubuntu Hedgehog and have problems with my resolution. I am using a laptop and I know that I should run 1400x1050, but it is currently set to 1024x786, and when I try to change the screen gets messy.. any other resolution that the one in use now is messy05:39
digitalslave_guess it's time to install nvidia drivers then05:39
digitalslave_see you guys in a few05:39
apokryphosdazjorz: available kioslaves in Konqueror: ftp/sftp/fish05:39
delirem0td: no you won't need to reboot. you'll need to unpack the package 'cd /usr/src && sudo tar xvjf linux-source-$(uname -r).tar.bz2'05:39
djpguardianx: i used it a while back, when i sold my soul and installed the nvidia non-free driver. i'm sure there is some sort of configuration where you can move the picture around...05:39
Fireavsrer menu system/preference/resolution05:39
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m0tddelire: thanks, that's what I needed05:39
dazjorzthoreauputic: It tells me it can't connect to the IP address05:39
Fireavsrer thats the name of the program to change your resolution05:40
m0tdwell... I had better try it first ;-)05:40
guardianxdjp i'm sure there is but it is so hard to find help on the linux side05:40
dazjorzCould not connect to host05:40
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avsrerFire, I'm able to change it but the screen is all messy when I change it05:40
unsec1Sorry to repeat. and for anyone joining my Logitech Webcam tale of woe can be seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5485405:40
HiddenWolfIs anyone here familiar with fsck, and how to use it to fix a messed up pc?05:40
apokryphosdazjorz: type fish://username@hostname05:40
thoreauputicdazjorz: is there a server running at that IP ? (for ssh)05:40
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dazjorzthoreauputic: Think so, yes05:40
m0tddelire: man, that's clever how you stuck that command in there so you didn't have to tell me to figure out my linux version ;-)05:40
delirem0td: of course you can just use a root nautilus session and right click 'extract' the archive ;)05:40
dazjorzthoreauputic: I'll check05:40
guardianxthe dark side everything works----- but i have to admit the unbuntu is the best flavor out of linux distro05:40
thoreauputicdazjorz: try apokryphos 's suggestion05:40
m0tdnautilus... *shudder*05:40
Fireavsrer so 1400x1050 is messy?05:40
guardianxand i tried red hat, suse, and fedora05:40
m0tdguardianx: those all suck05:41
guardianxbut the dark force is too strong05:41
delirem0td: yeah a good trick.05:41
Fireguardianx whats the problem05:41
m0tdman, I have GOT to get capslock bound to control ><05:41
avsrerFire, yes.. same with others I've tried as well.. I*m sure 1400x1050 should be good with this screen though 'cause I've used it before05:41
delireguardianx: windows was too much work for me. too hard.05:41
apokryphosthoreauputic: not sure why, but around 1/20 (for me) it won't load it without specifying the username05:41
dazjorzapokryphos / thoreauputic: No, same problem. On the SSH server I can do ssh localhost, which works.05:41
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, what's wrong with your filesystem ?05:42
guardianxfire - i'm trying to view my movies on the tv.... but when i use nvtv to switch to tv mode.. the picture is too big..05:42
apokryphosdazjorz: try ftp://username@localhost05:42
avsrerFire, I had to use another screen during install 'cause this screen was black.05:42
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, you having trouble booting ?05:42
rekaavsrer: tried this?05:42
reka!fixres05:42
ubotu[fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:42
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HiddenWolfLinuxJones: trying to figure it out. it won't boot.05:42
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dazjorzapokryphos / thoreauputic: Sorry, my bad. How do I reconfigure the network on the server, it has DHCP and I want it to be static.05:42
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, does it come up with any errors or does the system just lock up ?05:42
Rebeccadoes ubuntu use x.org by default?05:43
m0tdok, I untarr'd the linux source, but I'm still getting the error05:43
Firesorry guardianx, I haven't played with that05:43
thoreauputicRebecca: yes05:43
Fire:/05:43
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djpguardianx: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241&mode=thread05:43
avsrerOkay I'll check out the howto, thanks!05:43
Rebeccathoreauputic: thanks :)05:43
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: a bunch of I/O buffer errors on a load of blocks, then a message to do it manually05:43
HiddenWolfs/do/fix05:43
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, sounds like your hard drive is dying05:43
apokryphosdazjorz: on your computer?05:43
Rebeccadoes ubuntu have a stable AMD64 port?05:43
m0td> abi@smaug:/usr/src$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper05:44
m0td> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted05:44
m0td> abi@smaug:/usr/src$05:44
m0td><05:44
thoreauputicRebecca: it does05:44
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: fortunatlly it's not mine. Any idea if there is anything I can do?05:44
m0tdabi@smaug:/usr/src$ ls /usr/src05:44
m0tdlinux-source-2.6.10  linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2  rpm05:44
m0tdI've got it untarred, as you can see05:44
thoreauputicRebecca: a bit limited in the multimedia area though05:44
delireincredible. this is important work: http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party/05:44
Rebeccathoreauputic: how come?05:44
thoreauputicRebecca: codecs etc05:44
dazjorzapokryphos: what is the command to reconfigure network? netcfg ?05:44
thoreauputicRebecca: anything 32 bit requires a chroot05:45
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, do you have an ubuntu live cd ?05:45
apokryphosdazjorz: no idea. For setting up my dhcp I always use dhclient05:45
thoreauputicdazjorz: man interfaces05:45
Rebeccathoreauputic: im currently using debian-amd64, and was looking for something a bit multimedia friendly05:45
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Rebeccabit more*05:45
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, or any livecd for that matter05:45
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: yeah, it took 15 minutes to boot on this old pc, and then was totally unusable /slow/05:45
thoreauputicRebecca: I haven't used it - someone else might know more05:46
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Rebeccaok05:46
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m0tddoes anyone else have some suggestions?05:46
m0tdx_x05:46
thoreauputicbye all05:46
apokryphos'night thoreauputic :)05:46
m0tdbubye05:46
Doomhammernight?05:46
DoomhammerWTF?05:46
m0tdthanks for trying to help me05:46
thoreauputicapokryphos: night :)05:46
delireRebecca: Mepis has all codecs (win32 codecs, Java, flash et al) running out of the box, albeit this makes it very 'non-free'05:46
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Doomhammeri just woke up O_o05:46
m0tdDoomhammer: different tz stupid ;-)05:46
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Rebeccadelire: ok, ill take a look05:47
m0tdtz==timezone05:47
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jonnnnhi05:47
m0tdI should have clarified05:47
m0tdjonnnn: hi05:47
Doomhammerm0td: yea, but what time zone is that? china?05:47
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, argh, if you can boot into the livecd you could run a file check on your partitions but I lost a hard drive 2 months ago and had the same errors :(05:47
apokryphosRebecca: MEPIS is nce too, but far smaller development team (and community) in comparison to ubuntu, unfortunately05:47
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: what is there that I *could* try, and how do I figure out what caused this. It's not worth fixing a dying drive, for instance05:47
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Chaotic_Shieldhey everyone05:48
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jonnnni just install realplayer when i tries to play a MP3 with it, it just stuck then i have to forcefully kill the realplayer process05:48
delireRebecca: it's a KDE/Debian based distribution. not as popular as Ubuntu (and certainly has less integrity) but a very slick distribution regardless.05:48
jonnnnany idea where i'm doing any possible mistake05:48
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rekajonmasters: *cough* by playing mp3s with realplayer05:48
rekajonnnn rather05:49
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LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, if you boot into the Ubuntu install cd hit ctrl+alt+F2 and see if you can access fsck from that terminal. If you can you will be able to check the drives from there.05:49
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znhRandom Fortune: Never make any mistaeks. -- Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report05:49
znhsorry05:49
jonnnnreka, yep I wana play all my illegal MP3s with realplayer or alteset to hear online music05:49
SubfixWhen Ubuntu is loading I get this error scrolling like 8 times:  modprobe : FAILED : could not load /lib/modules/2.6.11-6mdk/modules.deb no such file or directory          could this be why my USB mouse isn't working? ...what exactly is it anyways?05:49
rekajonnnn: try a 'killall esd' before starting rp05:49
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apokryphosjonnnn: there's better players05:50
DoomhammerSubfix: yea, that's probobly it... those are kernel modules that it isn't loading, similar to "drivers" for WinBlows05:50
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: booting now (it's an old laptop from my neighbour)05:50
Chaotic_Shieldjonnnn, check out !mp305:50
Chaotic_Shield!mp305:50
uboturumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support05:50
rekajonnnn: but yeah, what apokryphos said05:50
guardianxwhat is the pw for root??05:50
HiddenWolf!sudo05:50
ubotu[sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:50
apokryphosguardianx: no root; use sudo05:50
SubfixDoomhammer: Ah, I thought they had to do with drivers... I've installed it twice and had the same error... is there a way to download modules.deb alone so I can stick it in?05:50
Vital303alsaconf returns05:51
Vital303bash: alsaconf: command not found05:51
DoomhammerSubfix, hmm, not that I know of :/05:51
guardianxbut in order for me to install the nvida driva it say i need root access05:51
Subfixcrikey05:51
SubfixDoomhammer: out on a limb here, but do you think you could supply it? ....05:51
deFryskVital303, try alsactl05:51
apokryphosVital303: what are you trying to do? alsamixer perhaps05:51
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HiddenWolfguardianx: sudo gives you root acces for only those operations that need it. using it is much safer05:52
DoomhammerSubfix: sure, i'll look if I have one... but it might screw you up -- you're on x86 right?05:52
Vital303alsactl: Specify command...05:52
HiddenWolfguardianx: read the rootsudo wiki page05:52
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SubfixDoomhammer: yeah I am, but hey it's worth a shot :D05:52
apokryphosVital303: as I said, what is it you're trying to do?05:52
apokryphosHiddenWolf: all very debatable, of course =)05:52
Vital303apokryphos: I want to detect my sound card05:52
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Marvehelp me05:52
HiddenWolfguardianx: and the nvidia-drivers will be installed for you if you install linux-restricted-modules, without any messing about05:52
[NL] Zaggyhi05:52
HiddenWolfapokryphos: bah, everything is debatable05:53
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DoomhammerSubfix: hmm, that dir doesn't exist... you're on ubuntu right ? :S05:53
delirehehe. name space not wide enough.05:53
apokryphosVital303: you don't use that; though I don't know how to do it05:53
SubfixDoomhammer: indeed, latest one too.. just d/led the ISO off the main site about 2 days ago05:53
HiddenWolfMarve: try describing the problem, then asking for help. ;)05:53
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rekanext!05:53
Vital303I have no sound05:53
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Marvethanks reka ;)05:53
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MarveI'm trying to make ubuntu find my PCMCIA-card..05:53
apokryphosHiddenWolf: not really; I'm talking about a substantiated discussion from either side05:53
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DoomhammerSubfix: well mine definately won't work, we're using different versions of the kernel... i have 2.6.10 but you have 2.6.1105:54
ZincXcan someone give me multiverse lines :S05:54
apokryphos!sources05:54
ubotu[sources]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be fount at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:54
MarveI've used ndiswrapper and tried to install the windows-drivers05:54
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SubfixDoomhammer: i see. thanks for the attempt..05:54
jonnnn!mp305:54
ubotuI heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support05:54
[NL] ZaggyHow do I mount my usb hddcase?05:54
jonnnnheh05:54
HiddenWolfapokryphos: yeah, well. There is substantiated debate about a load of things. Including which distro rocks hardest. :)05:54
DoomhammerSubfix: np, i'm sure someone else has a 2.6.11 kernel if you want to try :/05:54
apokryphosHiddenWolf: there is. And? :S05:54
Marvebut when I write Ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom0/blahblah.inf it says "driver already installed"05:54
_abiok guys, I'm still getting "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted" when I try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"05:55
jonnnnChaotic_Shield okay not mp3 but how to hear online music without realplayer?05:55
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Marve_abi, me too!05:55
cute_bettonganyone know how to braodcast music with Ubuntu over the net?05:55
rekajonnnn: most players can stream music05:55
HiddenWolfapokryphos: just tell people what's the way you do it, or you believe it's best, and if it's muddy, tell em to form their own opinion. :)05:55
delireMarve: ndiswrapper can be a right pain the farce.05:55
m0tdlol Marve :(05:55
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m0tdthis is VERY annoyoing05:55
m0tdI have linux-source installed05:55
apokryphosHiddenWolf: point is, sudo and su use the same security system; so in general they're both subject to the same flaws and strengths05:55
jonnnnreka, i'm asken about listening from web browser05:56
m0tdand untarred05:56
Marvewhen I write ndiswrapper -e blahblah.inf it says "blahblah.inf is not installed"05:56
watanabe88may i ask for assistance with Limewire install05:56
SubfixDoomhammer: I just mounted the ubunto drive to mandriva and searched and found modules.deb in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386    ...does that mean anything to you? :P05:56
HiddenWolfapokryphos: true, but ubuntu seems to like sudo, so i'll just piont anyone to that wiki page.05:56
DoomhammerSubfix: you found modules.deb on the ubuntu system, or the mandriva system?05:56
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rekajonnnn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia05:57
m0tdYES05:57
SubfixDoomhammer: ubuntu... but wait. it's .dep ...wtf is .dep? ...05:57
m0tdI got it!!!05:57
apokryphosHiddenWolf: I wasn't arguing with that, at all :). I like sudo (I prefer it). Your point that it was more secure was questionable. Heh, this has gone on          -_)05:57
cute_bettongi want to stream music so people can listen to it ^_^ how do i do it?05:57
apokryphosdamn you evil keyboard05:57
DoomhammerSubfix: LOL! no idea, but a .deb is a package -- whe you apt-get something, it downloads the .deb and isntalls it05:57
[NL] ZaggyHow do I mount my usb hddcase?05:57
SubfixDoomhammer: yeah. this is weird :(05:57
watanabe88in installed Limewire using the ubuntu unofficial help directions and also installed Java05:58
MarveI think there is a mount manager05:58
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dazjorz I'm bored. Now I've installed Linux on my PC and i've got nothing to do -.-'05:58
watanabe88still limewire will not launch05:58
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leoncant setup my firewire card/camcorder to capture. Modules installed at bootup05:58
[NL] Zaggycould anyone give me a hand at mounting my usb hddcase?05:58
apokryphoswatanabe88: what's the error message?05:58
SubfixDoomhammer: is .ko a driver file?05:59
jonnnnreka, okay thanks05:59
watanabe88there is no error message apokryphos05:59
apokryphoswatanabe88: type limewire in terminal05:59
DoomhammerSubfix: yea, that's a kernel module... same with .so and .o05:59
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dazjorzJesus, now I've installed Ubuntu on my own computer and .. i'm BORED.... -.-'05:59
watanabe88when i click on limewire icon nothing happens05:59
SubfixDoomhammer: ok. modules.dep is a text files full of paths to .ko files etc.05:59
znhdazjorz: learn how to program in python, it's the best way to waste your time ^_^06:00
watanabe88i typed limewire in terminal and it says command not found06:00
kri have installed xlassie notifier, but how do i get it to work whith mozilla mail,06:00
Doomhammerwatanabe88: it's having an error... you should try starting it in a console, and look at what it spits out06:00
apokryphoswatanabe88: you didn't follow the instructions correctly, then.06:00
LinuxJonesdazjorz, that means you've got a good operating system that you don't have to dick around with :)06:00
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dazjorzLol06:00
dazjorzHey By the way06:00
apokryphosdazjorz: install KDE ;-)06:00
znhLinuxJones: maybe that's why windows (was) so popular :-P06:00
dazjorzapokryphos: xP already have that06:00
dazjorzI'm using Konversation so...06:01
LinuxJonesznh, :)06:01
watanabe88okay apo, i've tried it 3 times using the ubuntu unofficial directions06:01
apokryphosdazjorz: kdelook.org, then :P06:01
dazjorzapokryphos: now I did fish://root@192.168.1.10 and i'm connected,..... and06:01
watanabe88run it in console?06:01
znhdazjorz: me 2 using konversation :)06:01
apokryphosdazjorz: cool06:01
znhdazjorz: have you seen OSD? - it is really awesome06:01
Doomhammerso does anyone know why I would be having VERY low sound quality in KDE?06:01
dazjorzapokryphos: now I can't use any console,... only like browse it06:01
watanabe88how do i do that?06:01
znhDoomhammer: lower your master and pcm to 70%06:02
apokryphosdazjorz: ? to use console... use the console and ssh06:02
watanabe88Doomhamer, how do run in console06:02
cute_bettongso anyone know how to stream music to the internet using Ubuntu?06:02
cute_bettongor some program?06:02
dazjorzApokryphos: I actually meant, with a SSH program for KDE, not SFTP but really SSH06:02
Doomhammerznh: i don't see that in the control center :/06:02
apokryphoswatanabe88: you've done something wrong, clearly.06:02
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znhDoomhammer: typ alsamixer or kmix in a terminal06:02
kranyone?????? how to get email notifier xlassie to work whith my mozilla mail?????06:02
znhhmm.. what device is my usb stick?06:03
apokryphosdazjorz: what exactly would that mean :| why can't you use the console?06:03
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Chaotic_ShieldPing from kornbluth.freenode.net: 175ms06:03
twistedpairhi06:03
dazjorzapokryphos: Cuz I like nice layouts ;)06:03
watanabe88apo, someone said run in console06:03
apokryphosdazjorz: oh -- Window -> Show Terminal Emulator06:03
cute_bettongso no one knows huh?06:03
watanabe88okay, if i did something wrong, can you point out the correct way of install?06:03
Doomhammerznh: oh, wow, sweet06:04
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watanabe88please06:04
apokryphosdazjorz: ...I guess. Still not sure what an ssh application client entails :|06:04
Doomhammerznh: i didn't even know alsamixer exsted :P06:04
dazjorzapokryphos: Thanks a lot, that was exactly where I was looking for!!06:04
apokryphoscool :)06:04
znhDoomhammer: It's quite nice indeed06:04
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HiddenWolfLinuxJones: still about?06:05
apokryphoswatanabe88: just follow *exactly* what they say, and LMK if there is an error on any part06:05
krhallooooooooo ! i am so close but not quite there yet, i have to get the notifier to work in my email client06:05
apokryphoswatanabe88: if it *ever* says "error"06:06
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[NL] ZaggyHow do I mount usb devices in Ubuntu?06:07
watanabe88The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do.06:07
dazjorzIs it OK if I install RPM files with Ubuntu ?06:07
watanabe88Archive:  LimeWireOther.zip06:08
apokryphosdazjorz: for small ones, generally yes. Convert them to .deb with alien then dpkg -i06:08
HiddenWolfdazjorz: not recommended at all, do at own risk, and only if there is no other way06:08
deFryskdazjorz, only if you try to break the system its fine06:08
apokryphoswatanabe88: keep going06:09
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watanabe88sudo gedit /usr/bin/runLime.sh06:09
watanabe88saved the editted file06:10
firestormWhat is a simple way to see whether Package X is installed or uninstalled?06:10
dazjorzlol, I got 3 advices06:10
watanabe88oh prior to that i also used the sudo chown ...command06:10
dazjorz1 = Yes06:10
dazjorz2 = Sometimes06:10
dazjorz2 = Not really06:10
Chaotic_Shieldfirestorm, dpkg -l <package name>06:10
seanpatrickThis may sound stupid but i followed the instrustions on ubuntuguide.org for the libdvdcss2 libary but it cant find it in the repos and im stuck please help?06:10
watanabe88sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/runLime.sh06:10
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firestormChaotic_Shield: thanks :)06:10
HiddenWolfdazjorz: if you can avoid it, don't06:11
cute_bettongis there a way to braodcast music to the internet using Ubuntu?06:11
HiddenWolfdazjorz: and don't be suprized if hell breaks loose06:11
watanabe88sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/LimeWire.desktop06:11
Chaotic_Shieldyes cute_bettong06:11
cute_bettongsomething gui based06:11
watanabe88saved the editted file06:11
cute_bettonghow?06:11
Chaotic_Shieldnothing gui based.06:11
Chaotic_Shieldsorry.06:11
Chaotic_Shieldwell06:11
Chaotic_Shieldactually06:11
Chaotic_Shieldmaybe icecast06:11
Chaotic_Shieldcheck it out06:11
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Chaotic_Shieldit's in the repos.06:11
cute_bettongwell if it's easy06:11
cute_bettongi can do it text based06:11
watanabe88killall gnome-panel06:12
watanabe88okay06:12
seanpatrickThis may sound stupid but i followed the instrustions on ubuntuguide.org for the libdvdcss2 libary but it cant find it in the repos and im stuck please help?06:12
HiddenWolfI'm booted on a livecd now. I need to fix my / which started fscking with I/O buffer errors. What can I do?06:12
watanabe88no error messages06:12
dazjorzCan't I make it so that if I use apt-get, that it automatically changes that into sudo apt-get ?06:12
watanabe88as i indicated, java is already installed06:12
Chaotic_Shielddazjorz, not afaik.06:12
rekaseanpatrick: need to enable the repo that has it06:12
dazjorz!afaik06:12
ubotuI haven't a clue, dazjorz06:12
dazjorz? ?06:12
seanpatrickwhat repo has it?06:12
cute_bettongand i have icecast i just don't know how to use it06:13
seanpatricki enabled all of them that i kno of the un commenting06:13
cute_bettongit quits something about a config file06:13
watanabe88if i i go in firefox i see the java script console under tools06:13
deFryskafaIk is as far as I know06:13
dazjorzChaotic_Shield: Afaik? I mean only for the user dazjorz (thats me).06:13
rekaseanpatrick: going from this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia hoary-extras06:13
reka!sources06:13
ubotusomebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be fount at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:13
Chaotic_Shielddazjorz, afaik == as far as I know.06:13
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LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, what kind of partitions do you have ?06:15
black13i have build the debian packages for xorg now i want to install them06:15
shinshiI just installed Ubuntu (Hoary Hedgehog) on a Ferrari 4000 laptop, it installed fine but when I get to what is apparently the login prompt, the screen goes blank.06:15
znhshinshi: what's the maximum supported resolution?06:15
black13i am use to using apt-get install deb ... but how do i install the debs that have been built?06:15
deFryskblack13, dpkg -i blah.deb06:16
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HiddenWolfLinuxJones: it's one ext3 partition06:16
black13deFryk i got that06:17
cute_bettong>.< icecast is kinda difficult and it's not only text based06:17
black13deFryk i guess my question is one of dependencies06:17
shinshiznh: While I was configuring the resolutions for x during the setup, the max resolution I selected was 1024x76806:17
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shinshiznh: it's a widescreen and I don't remember the max resolution of the display06:17
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znhshinshi: hmm, I heard you problem more (nelson had it too, he fixed it)06:17
digitalslave_anyone know why my net connection does not reconnect on boot06:17
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LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, ok fsck -t ext3 /dev/hdax    with hdx being your partition number like hda1.06:18
Fanskapetdigitalslave_ what type of "net connection" ?06:18
digitalslave_have to system/admin/network and deactive then active to get a connection06:18
deFryskblack13, if you run into dep probs it might not be a compatible .deb otehrewist it will tell you what deps it needs06:18
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digitalslave_eth006:18
seanpatrickroot@SeanPatrick:/home/seanpatrick # sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 Reading package lists... Done06:18
seanpatrickBuilding dependency tree... Done06:18
seanpatrickYou might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:06:18
seanpatrickThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:18
seanpatrick  fglrx-control: Depends: xorg-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed or06:18
seanpatrick                          xfree86-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed06:18
seanpatrickE: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).06:18
black13deFryk apt-get install method would state "you need this and that deb yes or no" how do i get the same behavoir06:18
apokryphosseanpatrick: please don't flood the channel06:18
Fanskapetdigitalslave_ what says ifconfig?06:18
watanabe88apokryphos, any clues06:19
rekashinshi: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:19
deFryskblack13, make a repo on your harddrive06:19
Fanskapetand what says the syslog upon booting?06:19
seanpatrickwhat does all that mean tho?06:19
apokryphoswatanabe88: on?06:19
deFryskand add it to synaptic06:19
watanabe88why limewire still will not launch06:19
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watanabe88despite following directions on ubuntuguide.org06:19
digitalslave_does gnome have network hotplugging?06:20
rekaseanpatrick: use a normal terminal06:20
Fanskapetof course06:20
rekaseanpatrick: not a root one06:20
apokryphoswatanabe88: in terminal: /opt/LimeWire/runLime.sh06:20
Fanskapetdigitalslave_ but what does ifconfig say??06:20
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: running06:20
black13repo?06:20
digitalslave_net worked wonky in mandrake until i disabled that06:20
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black13deFryk repository ?06:20
deFryskblack13, =repository06:20
shinshireka: thanks for the tip06:20
digitalslave_says i have eth0 and lo up now06:20
shinshilet me try that06:20
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, hopefully your hd is not borked and things will get sorted out :)06:21
apokryphoswatanabe88: no wait, ignore that.06:21
Fanskapetdigitalslave_ yes but directly after bootup06:21
seanpatricki still get the same thing06:21
watanabe88oh wait, i have some info06:21
apokryphoswatanabe88: heh, no, do try that. What happens?06:21
black13deFryk so have a line in sources.list deb /some/path/to/my/stuff06:21
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: getting "ignore error(y)?' messages06:21
watanabe88it did say that Java exec not found in path06:21
digitalslave_dunno :) both were listed in network and supposedly active but all traffic was on lo06:21
watanabe88okay06:21
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watanabe88well, i need to reinstall java then06:22
alf2.06:22
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luihello people06:22
apokryphoswatanabe88: enable hoary-extras and then apt for it06:22
watanabe88ok, well i've already downloaded it06:22
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deFryskblack13, not sure how to do it but it should be somewhere in the docs of debian.org or in the wiki of ubuntu06:22
musashihullo06:22
apokryphoswatanabe88: much easier to apt for it06:22
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watanabe88hoary extras06:22
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apokryphoswatanabe88: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:23
gpdanybody use a chroot breezy for bleeding edge stuff?06:23
unsec1I finally got my webcam to go! Thats everything. Time to write my Dear Bill letter....06:23
apokryphoswatanabe88: add that to /etc/apt/sources.list06:23
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, hit no so you can see the errors06:23
seanpatrickthe package manger shows up with the libdvdcss2 now but terminal doesnt sya it has it06:23
black13gpd i have been farting around with building chroots06:23
digitalslave_the network monnitor states eth0 is disconnected right now :(06:23
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unsec1Dear Bill, Your computer operating system is no longer required. Get you pink slip and get out!06:24
alankelonhello06:24
digitalslave_network settings states as active06:24
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, if those I/O errors start coming up your drive is shot06:24
firestormafter uninstalling and re-installing postfix I get: /etc/postfix/postfix-script   I'd already rm -r /etc/postfix directory after uninstall and a re-install obvipously didn't re-create the files...any hints?06:24
gpdblack13: I think Xen might be an alternative - but seems excessive06:24
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dazjorzdoes compiling of OpenSSL take long ?06:24
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: error while scanning inodes(#) Can't read next inode, aborted06:24
gpdblack13: or maybe just pin the package I want06:24
rekaseanpatrick: can't understand you06:24
watanabe88okay i will use synaptic06:24
watanabe88i did search for java and found all kinds of associations06:24
seanpatrickwhen i try to have apt-get  go find libdvdcss2 it cant find it06:24
watanabe88i will just select all of them to install06:24
watanabe88let me see06:24
znh!gnome06:25
ubotuznh: No idea06:25
alankelonI installed ubuntu right now and I can't change root password06:25
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seanpatrickbut when i searched the synaptic packages it showed up after i added a repo off that one site06:25
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digitalslave_go to root shell and type passwd06:25
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, the only thing left to try is re-formating the partition06:25
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alankelonI'm trying `sudo passwd root' without success06:25
HiddenWolfalakon, ubuntu disables sudo at default06:25
HiddenWolf!sudo06:25
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:25
alankelonsudo is asking me some password06:25
h08817acpi or apci i got this error when installing06:25
h08817amd64 version06:25
h08817didn't work06:25
windexalan_, enter _your password_ when sudo asks for the password. sudo operates on user passwords and an access control file.06:25
wezzer-would some one post _original_ /etc/apt/sources.list -file to pastebin06:25
alankelonops06:25
wezzer-?06:25
HiddenWolfLinuxJones: how do I figure if the drive is dying, or it's just some fuckup by ext...?06:25
alankelonit's my password06:26
digitalslave_applications>system>root terminal then type passwd06:26
alankelonI'm sorry06:26
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h08817my install for some reason doesn't work06:26
rekaseanpatrick: er, so what happens now when you try and install?06:26
h08817any reason why?06:26
windexalankelon, np :)06:26
alankelon:D06:26
alankelonbye06:26
h08817i got it from ubuntu site and burned it with nero06:26
seanpatrickit says that fglrx-control: Depends: xorg-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed or06:26
seanpatrick                          xfree86-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed06:26
windexi will never understand why so many experienced linux users do not understand sudo.06:26
h08817i guess i have to get a live cd06:26
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, being a journaled file system I am thinking the drive is shot but you can re-format the partition during a re-install of Ubuntu.06:27
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HiddenWolfLinuxJones: and end up in the same situation a week from now?06:27
dazjorzhow long does compiling of openssl take ?06:27
MrRaggahi, where can i get komba2 or Linneighbourhood? krusader is missing, too?06:27
digitalslave_or sudo -i06:27
HiddenWolfdazjorz: why would you want to compile it?06:28
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, once the installer starts to format the partition (if the drive is going tits up) the installer will fail then you'll know for sure.06:28
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dazjorzMrRagga: Try this: sudo apt-get install linneighbourhood06:28
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HiddenWolfdazjorz: speed of compiling is depending on your cpu, of course06:28
dazjorzHiddenWolf: Because Perls Net::SSLeay needs it to be compiled and not get06:28
dazjorzHiddenWolf: On Pentium 4, 2.4 gHz06:28
dazjorzi don't have to know it exactly06:28
dazjorzbut I want to know if its 10 minutes or a few hours06:29
HiddenWolfdazjorz: I've never compiled it, but not long.06:29
dazjorzOK, thanks.06:29
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HiddenWolfLinuxJones: thanks06:30
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luipeople, how do i know how many space is left in the hard drive?06:31
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rekaseanpatrick: what dependencies does libdvdcss2 have?  can you apt-cache show it and see if the fglrx packages are in there?06:31
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rekalui: df -h06:31
toniiHow do I mount a SMB share with mount? i've forgotten the syntax :)06:31
luiok reka06:31
apokryphoslui: for a beautiful way of doing it: filelight06:32
seanpatrickapt-cache libdvdcss2  <--type that?06:32
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apokryphosapt-cache search :)06:32
apokryphossearch/show/etc06:32
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seanpatricklibdvdcss2 installed somewat it installed but there is no sound with the video06:32
luiapokryphos: is that like widgets?06:33
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seanpatricklibdvdcss2 Depends: libc6 Conflicts: <libdvdcss0.0.1> Conflicts: <libdvdcss0.0.2>06:34
apokryphoslui: it's an application06:34
rekaseanpatrick: using totem?06:34
h08817ok everyone i get this error when installing ubuntu amd64 edition06:34
seanpatrickxine06:34
h08817Unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help06:34
h08817any ideas?06:34
luiok06:34
luithx06:35
rekaseanpatrick: try a 'killall esd'06:35
apokryphoslui: it's the repos, if you want to try it out... personally quite like it. It's best for telling you exactly where your space is going06:35
LinuxJonesHiddenWolf, good luck :)06:35
h08817do i have a bad version of ubuntu or what happened?06:35
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seanpatrickoi did the killall esd and mplayer opened and my speakers poped06:36
rekaseanpatrick: mplayer opened when you did the killall?06:36
seanpatrickyea06:36
rekawell, geeze you've been having some weird behaviour06:37
luiapokryphos: it eats much memory?06:37
seanpatrickshould i reinstall and try again?06:37
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h08817help if possible please06:38
delireseanpatrick: strange goings on there..06:38
toniihow do i search for applications via apt-get?06:38
syndapt-cache search <app>06:38
rekah08817: search ubuntuforums.org  i recall someone asking about acpi/apic06:38
apokryphoslui: for the beginning search, I'd guess06:39
toniiah, thanks =)06:39
syndtonii: but id use synaptic to do a better search :)06:39
sproingieor use aptitude06:39
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seanpatrickis there any sort of restore button\command for ubuntu? - startfroma clean slate06:39
toniisynd: hm, trying to find mplayer and joe :P06:39
bretzelHello, trying to compile bzflag source but it cannot find "gl.h" header file ... this is supposed to be the openGL dev main header file but cannot find any of the devlib about opengl...06:39
sproingieaptitude doesn't search descriptions tho, which is annoying06:39
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syndsynaptic > aptitude06:39
SubfixAnyone know anything about 'version magic' errors during booting? (x: version magic '2.6.10-5-386 preempt 386 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.11-6mdk 686 gcc-3.4') where x = various things such as 'apm' ...06:39
toniisynd: thought apt-get to get apps remote :)06:39
anacronis it good to have all hardware what you are going to use in while you install the system? or is it for an example faster to install if you have only those componets what are required to make system work?06:39
sproingieseanpatrick: other than reinstalling, no06:39
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luiapokryphos: o thanks ;)06:40
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luiapokryphos: ok thanks ;)06:40
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seanpatrickalright i suppose ill reinstall and try again06:40
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rekabretzel: install freeglut3-dev06:40
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bretzelreka: thanks :-)06:40
seanpatrickthanks for the help06:40
rekabretzel: why are you compiling from source though?06:40
h08817i can't install ubuntu using the amd64 version can I use i386 instead06:40
rekabzflag's in the repo already06:40
h08817or will it not work?06:41
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anacronh08817: sure you can06:41
h08817even on an amd computer06:41
h08817or i mean processor06:41
toniisynd: to get joe and mplayer on my ubuntu, do I need to dowload the source and compile them then?06:41
rekabretzel: bzflag's in the repo already06:41
bretzelreka: 1.xx yes, but 2.02 is not -- and btw, freeglut3-dev  IS installed.... ???06:41
sproingieh08817: what doesn't work on the amd64 version?06:41
Stormxtonii: no.06:41
Stormxtonii: Use synaptic.06:41
rekabretzel: oh06:41
toniino such packages there06:41
Stormxtonii: Tried apt-get?06:42
rekabretzel: locate gl.h06:42
toniiyes06:42
bretzelthus must be current bzflag sources screwed tho...06:42
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Stormxtonii: Can you download a debian?06:42
Stormx(.deb)06:42
anacronh08817: if you use 64bit version you can't use example flash, and other "important stuff"06:42
h08817sproingie,  when i go to install it (boot to cd) it runs through a lot of stuff and then i get this error Unlunk after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC Settings may help06:42
toniiStormx: don't know, what are you reffering to?06:42
oonoonwhen trying 'cfdisk' on a non-root user account, i get a 'fatal error : can't open disk unit', is that a bug ?06:42
bretzelnothing with locate nor slocate ...06:42
sproingieh08817: weird ... what brand of motherboard?06:42
h08817anacron,  so i386 version is better06:43
bretzelduh ?06:43
Stormxtonii: If you get a debian package of it, then run "dpkg -i <package name>"06:43
toniiah.06:43
h08817sproingie, msi06:43
rekaoonoon: probably not.  you probably need 'root' priviliges06:43
StormxThat will install it straight off, no compiling06:43
anacronh08817: "better" yes, in my point of view it's still better (but least upgrade for 686 version)06:43
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toniiStormx: what about depencies and stuff? :)06:43
Stormxoonoon: try "sudo cfdisk"06:43
h08817where is the 686 version06:43
h08817?06:43
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Stormxtonii: Should be covered, but not automatic.06:43
h08817anacron, is it just on the site under download?06:43
oonoonreka, but why a fatal error , i would expect a 'permission denied' blabla06:43
anacronh08817: you can update it after the installation06:43
pirkkkoi've got a question.06:43
bjoern_me too06:44
eriscohas anyone got wine to work with adobe photoshop 6.0 before? I can't get it to work....06:44
pirkkkosuprise06:44
h08817o ok06:44
bretzelfind / -name gl.h gives: /usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h06:44
toniiStormx: damnit :P06:44
anacronpirkkko: read the topic "just aks"06:44
anacronask*06:44
pirkkko:D06:44
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oonoonStormx, this works fine, i know, im just curious about this error06:44
Stormxtonii: It will tell you if it lacks a package06:44
sproingieh08817: what's your acpi settings in the bios look like?  i'm not sure the ia32 version will do much better,  though i suppose you could try it06:44
bjoern_want to run X :1& but then: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. - any idea, wasnt a problem in other linux systems i had06:44
toniiStormx: yeah, i guessed that :)06:44
Stormx^_^06:44
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bretzelthus means bzflag screwed... it cannot configure X11 headers locations...06:44
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rekaoonoon: dunno, maybe the developers set the error output06:45
anacronbjoern_: try to change permissions somehow, or maybe add the user in to group which can use x06:45
Stormxoonoon: You're not gonna be able to modify partitons without root.06:45
Stormxoonoon: That would be damn stupid if you could.06:45
eriscothanks anywas06:45
rekabretzel: if you installed the freeglut pack.  you should have /usr/include/GL/gl.h06:45
oonoonStormx, yeah, i know, but the error within the program, and not directly from the terminal is weird, i think06:45
Stormxo.O I dunno then06:46
Stormxlet me see.06:46
coolpixtesten06:46
pirkkkoMy ubuntu freezes in 10minutes when surfing with firefox/opera/epiphany. What to do?06:46
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rekabretzel: actually, not true06:46
Stormxoonoon: I think the opening of the disk is stopped further down the line, but an error message is not given by that.06:46
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Stormxoonoon: Therefore, cfdisk doesn't know WHY it can't open the HDD06:46
toniiStormx: can you reach the site www.mplayerhq.hu ?06:46
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oonoonStormx ok06:47
Stormxtonii: No its down.06:47
toniiblah06:47
anacronpirkkko: maybe you have to limit your surfing? :D is your system update?06:47
\\Neohi, i'm trying to get my wlan card working with ndiswrapper. but how can i remove these old acx100 drivers?06:47
pirkkko:D06:47
syndi have a person here claiming that YDL can support the Airport Express card06:47
anacron\\Neo: have you used ndiswrapper for them?06:47
\\Neono06:47
syndhe is utterly wrong, right?06:47
pirkkko10 minutes limit is quite cruel.06:47
rekabretzel: my mistake....wrong package06:47
\\Neoubuntu installed them by default06:47
Stormx\\neo: You shouldn't have to remove them, just select the new ones.06:48
pirkkkoabacron: it should be.06:48
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bretzelreka: hahaha06:48
\\Neoand where? :/ i only see the acx100 stuff at iwconfig06:48
pirkkko*anacron06:48
Stormx\\Neo, I'm not sure.06:48
anacronpirkkko: yeah, i really dunno, have you tryed google or wiki... oh right, i might be hard you can only surf for 10min :D06:49
\\Neowell i would be happier if i could remove that acx100 drivers anyway06:49
coolpixre06:49
Stormxrofl!06:49
\\Neothey are accessing the same hardware06:49
pirkkkoanacron :p06:49
\\Neothat must be weird06:49
\\Neoand prolly the reason why ndiswrapper doesnt work06:49
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anacronpirkkko: are you from finland?06:50
pirkkkoyep06:50
rekabretzel: sorry. :)06:50
rekabretzel: you need xlibmesa-gl-dev06:50
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anacronisn't that a bit shamefull, linux is made in finland?06:50
HaroldBloody hell06:50
anacronand you can't use it properly06:50
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rekadamn. http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is really useful. :)06:50
_NeLLY_nes.si06:50
pirkkkoanacron, it is D:06:50
bretzel(not related) - BTW, That is funny I had to install libtool pkg eventhough all dev pkg installed06:50
anacronjust kidding...06:50
Stormxanacron: linux was STARTED in finland.06:50
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HaroldMorning, everyone.  Do English people really say "Bloody hell"?06:50
StormxHarold: yes06:51
anacronStormx: yeah, and only the kernel is "original"06:51
bretzelreka: ok for xlibmesa-gl-dev thanks :-)06:51
highvoltageHarold: yes, they do. they are rude people.06:51
HaroldStormx: Thanks, Stormx06:51
StormxxD06:51
Haroldhighvoltage: Rude?06:51
StormxI'm british.06:51
Haroldanacron: Did you get that wifi working with madwifi?06:51
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anacronno i didn't06:51
rekaStormx: 3 runs!06:51
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highvoltageHarold: sometimes.06:51
Haroldanacron: What did you do?06:51
Stormxreka: waaa?06:51
anacronHarold: i got mad like the drivers06:51
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anacronHarold: im installing ubuntu again right now06:52
_NeLLY_arnes.si06:52
bretzelreka: bad news for bzflag 2.02 sources: their configure script is totally screwed: I do have xlibmesa-gl-dev06:52
Haroldanacron: I know the feeling.  Just keep at it.  I got so frustrated 'cuz it took so long to get it working on my old Mac.06:52
rekaStormx: actually, 2 runs!06:52
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Haroldanacron: Okay06:52
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anacronHarold: i had to change my system hardware a bit06:52
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rekabretzel: maybe change the configure presets then?06:52
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Haroldanacron: What did you have to change?06:52
anacronHarold: hard-disk's :D06:53
synddoes any distro of linux support Airport Extreme?06:53
syndany at all?06:53
syndYDL?06:53
syndhttp://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-June/014534.html06:53
anacronsynd: what is it?06:53
Haroldanacron: I see06:53
rekaStormx: not a cricket fan then?06:53
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anacronHarold: i also added an soundcard and tv-card06:53
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Haroldanacron: Gonna watch tv on your pc, huh?  :)06:54
lenoxmonick fiona06:54
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Haroldanacron: Does that work alright?  (The tv?)06:54
syndanybody?06:54
syndanacron: ?06:54
anacronHarold: yes and no, this machine is for my lil sister :D06:54
mjrsynd, most likely not06:54
Haroldanacron: Ah.06:54
anacronHarold: i don't watch tv06:55
Haroldanacron: I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on my old Powermac now...06:55
syndmjr: i got a YDL supporter here that pointed me to here> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-June/014534.html06:55
anacronHarold: but it worked with mandrake like a year ago, so i guess why wouldn't it work in ubuntu06:55
syndand that baffles me06:55
Haroldanacron: Why wouldn't it?06:55
Haroldanacron: I'm sure it'll work...06:56
anacronHarold: that was my question06:56
digitalslave_yeah should06:56
anacronHarold: :D but maybe i said something wrong, im too tired06:56
digitalslave_old mandrake user myself06:56
bretzelreka: anyway bzflag is not a vital thing .... I just hate failure :-)06:56
Haroldanacron: I mean, I'm not *absolutely* sure, but there seems to be alot of support for Ubuntu06:56
anacronyeah...06:56
digitalslave_ubuntu is miles ahead of drake - thats why i switched06:56
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anacronshould we stop chitchatting and leave space for those who need help :D06:57
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Haroldanacron: Anyway, I was just checking in to #ubuntu...06:57
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Haroldanacron: Yeah, probably06:57
Haroldanacron: Nice chatting with you!06:57
anacronyou too06:57
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rekabretzel: you should have /usr/include/GL/gl.h if you had that last package though06:59
twistedpairsynd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86206:59
Syco54645anyone here use urlfilter with ipcop or smoothwall?06:59
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inconnuhello06:59
Dr_WillisMoo06:59
dazzeddoes anyone know of a sammple .Xdefaults i can steal to make one since i dont have one?07:00
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inconnui have a problem with my tv-tuner card :( i have a very good screen but not sound :(, when i whrite dmesg tuner in my consol i have: saa7134[0] /audio: audio carrier scan failed, using 5.500 MHz [default] 07:00
inconnuhelp me pleaseeee :(:'(07:00
inconnu(i'm belgian, sorry for my english ;))07:01
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Syco54645or hell does anyone know of a good blacklist?07:02
twistedpairinconnu: have you got sound in other apps?07:03
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delireSyco54645: Hell has it's own blacklists07:03
inconnuwith a cd or an mp3?07:04
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twistedpairinconnu: yes anything07:04
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kingscsihi07:04
inconnuyes, i have07:04
Syco54645delire, i just read what i said to see if your comment would make sence.... and it didnt.  that is sad i wanted to laugh ;)07:04
beetlegot error starting up my computer. grub loading fails with error no 17. have windows xp on c: drive, and ubuntu on other partition. this error occured after a disk partitioning07:04
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kingscsican anyone help me with port redirecting?07:05
inconnujust for wtach tv i don't have sound07:05
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kingscsii want to keep my apache on 80 but somehow get the ubuntu box to redirect traffic from a port like 8080 to 8007:06
mjrbeetle, if you moved partitions around or added a partition before the linux partition, grub probably needs to be reinstalled07:06
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kingscsianyone here from South Africa?07:06
delireSyco54645: ;)07:06
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Syco54645delire, know of a good black list?07:06
delireSyco54645: for IP's?07:06
beetleadded a partition befor linux partition. how to reinstall or remove grub?07:06
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Syco54645delire, yeah, i just want to block ads on my network here... it is 5 people on a 4 megabit connection, so ads get annoying when they need to be loaded07:07
mjrbeetle, with grub-install07:07
delireSyco54645: and you can't avoid downloading them with firefox addblock?07:07
SubfixCan anyone running 5.04 do me a favor and tell me the name of the directory inside of /lib/modules ? (2.6.10-5-386 or 2.6.11-6mdk) (fresh install..?)07:08
delireSyco54645: i think firefox, if you use that has extensions for blacklisting.07:08
kingscsianyone any ideas for me port redirect mission?07:08
inconnudelire, tu es belge?07:08
Dr_Willistheres a few ad-killig proxies out there. and firefox has a nice adblock extension.07:08
Mezhad anyone had any experience with cedega on breezy?07:09
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rekaadblock.mozdev.org07:09
delireinconnu: non07:09
Syco54645delire, not everyone on the network uses firefox... the one is an ididot english majour so07:09
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Dr_Willisthers always some of the huge ad-killing hosts files also out.07:09
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inconnuok ;)07:10
rekaSyco54645: what do they use then?07:10
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anacrondillo is very light option07:11
anacronalso it sounds sexy like dildo07:11
irbdavidwhere can i find out if ubuntu supports my digital camera?07:11
Dr_Willis:)07:11
kingscsilol07:11
terminalspinHi all! - Has anyone had any problems with network printing and the gnome printers window not appearing?07:11
anacronirbdavid: the ubuntu site, wiki or perhaps forums07:11
Kirschirbdavid: what camera do u have?07:11
irbdavidSony DSC T107:12
Dr_Willisirbdavid,  well most mondern camera work as usb-hard drives - could test the ubuntu live cd see if it sees the cam.07:12
Kirschoh ok, yea check the wiki, i was just curious, ihave a cannon that works fine07:12
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KirschIs Breezy kinda stable again?07:12
Kirschi heard that she was acting up last week...07:12
irbdavidits pretty modern.  it didnt work with suse last time i tried ~ version 9.0/.1 i think07:12
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Kirschi have no idea, check to see if there are drivers for it yet07:13
Kirschcheck the wiki and google07:13
boomanhow do I add programs to be run at boot?07:13
Kirschbooman: in gnome?07:13
Syco54645reka, internet explorer, which is why i want to block the ads on the router07:13
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Syco54645reka, its also just nicer to do it that way07:13
linuksoirbdavid: it works!07:13
hi-fi_dkhi, where does ubuntu install kernel source ?07:13
kingscsimy router suck ballz, have to reboot anytime i do port mapping07:13
linuksoirbdavid: check out gphoto.org07:13
irbdavidcool, thanks linukso07:14
boomanKirsch: at boot like in slack you can put the stuff in rc scripts07:14
irbdavidgphoto part of the default install with ubuntu?07:14
Kirschyea, you can still do that.07:14
booman?07:14
linuksoirbdavid: just put it in ptp mode, it is somewhere in your cameras setup menu. And yes, ubuntu has got gphoto.07:15
KirschYou want to start a service at startup?07:15
irbdavidbeans, i'll d/l ubuntu then07:15
boomanKirsch: yeah all I wanna run is 'athcool on'07:15
hi-fi_dkubuntu and kernel source anyone ?07:15
StormxxD Reka, i get ya now.07:15
crispynix-v6Kirsch: Xorg is still broken07:15
irbdavidwhats ptp mode mean, you reckon?07:16
akaiholaOpenOffice segfaults in my Hoary. The problem is outside OOo, since 3 different versions behave identically. How do I verify that all my installed packages are OK (like rpm -V on redhat)?07:16
KirschWhat specifically? I haev to rebuild my driver anyway. (my Video)07:16
StormxGuys, i've got the biggest moral decision to take in my entire life...............................07:16
StormxGo back onto winblows and get soldat 1.3, or stay on sexy ubuntu?07:16
crispynix-v6Kirsch: hang on, I'll update then check again07:16
KyralThe Red or Blue Pill?07:16
StormxThat too.07:16
KyralSoldat 1.3? Wazzat?07:16
KirschRed07:16
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boomanCan someone tell me how to add 'athcool on' to run at boot07:17
beetlehow to steb by step reinstall the grub loader?07:17
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KyralStormx, surely you can emulate it in WINE07:17
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Kyral!grub07:18
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto07:18
crispynix-v6Kirsch: pretty much every package that should place binaries in /usr/X11R6/bin is not, libglu1-xorg is missing07:18
anacronis there some good way to minimize graphical things in gentoo, so it would be faster with this old machine?07:18
Kyralbeetle, thats your best bet I would think07:18
anacronnot gentoo, in gnome07:18
crispynix-v6Kirsch: meanwhile debian's xorg packages are fine07:18
StormxKyral: No. The anti-cheat system fucks it up07:18
Kyralnope07:18
anacroni always mix those07:18
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Stormxplus I dunno how to configure wine :(07:18
KyralStormx, Cedega?07:18
StormxHuh?07:18
Seveascrispynix-v6, are you using breezy?07:18
inconnui go to eat07:18
inconnubye07:18
Stormx!Cedega07:18
crispynix-v6Seveas: yep07:18
ubotuhmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega07:18
KirschI'll wait.07:18
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Seveascrispynix-v6, in breezy, they are getting rid of /usr/X11R6/07:19
KirschLOL configuring wine sucks ass haha07:19
KyralI meant Cedega "Pro" (The Pay Version)07:19
linuksoanacron: select a simple theme, turn off nautilus and don't use gdesklets07:19
Seveasxorg 7 will be shipped :)07:19
KirschGet anotehr computer for Winblows.07:19
crispynix-v6Seveas: oh07:19
akaiholaach, debsums is good for package verification07:19
StormxI dunno how to configure wine07:19
Seveasand therefor they are modularizing the package07:19
KirschYAY!07:19
anacronlinukso: thanks for tip07:19
crispynix-v6Seveas: until that's done though, important things like imake, xmkmf, mkfontdir etc. have gone MIA07:19
Seveasand therefor X is broken in Breezu :)07:19
hi-fi_dkubuntu and locattion of kernel source anyone ?07:19
SeveasBreezy*07:19
Seveastrue, true07:19
KirschSeveas: how long do you think? i want to see Breezy...07:19
crispynix-v6Seveas: (I just unpackaged debian's packages for binaries)07:20
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Seveasthat's why you should not use it :)07:20
boomanCan someone tell me how to add 'athcool on' to run at boot07:20
SeveasKirsch, it should be finished by october :)07:20
Seveas(hopefully end of august already though)07:20
KirschI meant, how long do you think It'l be before I can test it.07:20
Kirschbefore xorg will be fixed?07:20
linuksobooman: you can add it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh07:20
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SnippyI just love ubuntu07:21
highvoltageSnippy: me too.07:21
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anacronlinukso: can you help me disable nautilus?07:21
Snippyand I hope they fixe the sound issues in Breezy ;)07:21
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Snippy-e07:21
highvoltageSnippy: rm /usr/bin/esd did it for me :)07:21
Kirschalsaconfig did it for me ;-)07:22
linuksoanacron: of cause! start gconf-editor. You can find it in the Applications->system menu07:22
Snippyoh well07:22
linuksoanacron: or just start it from a term07:22
SnippyI just have some crap choppy sound sometimes07:22
Snippydont ask me why07:22
KirschSnippy: what sound card you have?07:22
beetlemy irc client disconnected. could i get the instructions for grub reinstallation one more time07:22
Snippynforce2 onboard chip: C-Media07:23
anacronlinukso: thanks07:23
Snippymp3's just play fine with good quality in xmms07:23
Snippybut the gnome sounds are choppy07:23
Snippylike very bad quality07:23
grousei am trying to use the Hoary Hedgehog live CD on a ThinkPad G40 with a Broadcom 57xx ethernet adapter. it doesn't seem to work OOTB. anyone have suggestions?07:23
KirschI think I had a borad that came with that out of the box, but I never tested it but I thought it picked it up, I'm still using my SBLive07:23
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grouseby "it," i mean the ethernet doesn't work07:24
Kirschoh07:24
linuksoanacron: when you got it running open up apps->nautilus->preferences, and disable show_desktop07:24
KirschHave you tried a different sound server?07:24
SnippyKirsch, the sound is so good.. on windows it worked fine with a very good quality07:24
deliregrouse: i use the tg3 driver for my Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet07:24
SnippyYes07:24
mind_Snippy, is xmms using esd or alsa output?07:24
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deliregrouse: modprobe tg3 does it here.07:24
grousedelire: i thought it was supposed to be included in the 2.6.10 kernel on the CD?07:24
grouseah07:24
grousei have to do that manually07:25
klaymhey people running clearlooks with gperfection or graphite suite theme! How do I get the window borders to look like these: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/23563-1.jpg07:25
Snippyalsa07:25
linuksoxmms... Don't understand why people are still using that...07:25
Snippymind07:25
Snippyalsa07:25
anacronlinukso: what 'bout that gdesklets?07:25
Kirschdelire: you have to modprobe it manually??? I have the same driver07:25
Snippyxmms just works fine for me linukso, and it gives me a better sound quality than gnome sounds atm07:25
equexwhats a good player except xmms, then ? i need a winamp clone :)07:25
Kirschbut the install CD picked up my wlan and lan, the live CD didn't boot with either.07:25
Kirschequex: bmp07:26
equexpreferably a winamp 2.91 clone07:26
deliregrouse: you may have to load the driver yep. to make this permanent, add 'tg3' to your /etc/modules07:26
Kirschbeep-media-player07:26
Kirschit's kinda unstable, but it depends how you use winamp, try that.07:26
equexalrgiht thanks07:26
grouseok, many thanks delire07:26
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equexwell the only reason id wanna switch from xmms would be its unstability07:27
equexit hangs a lot07:27
Kirschoh...07:27
Snippythats right07:27
Kirschyea, this won't solve that problem07:27
Kirschheh07:27
Kirschits just a GTK2 port of XMMS07:28
equexoh07:28
dazjorzHey07:28
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delireKirsch: you may have to load the driver yep. to make this permanent, add 'tg3' to your /etc/modules07:28
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dazjorzThis program tells me that port 10000 is already in use07:28
dazjorzhow do I see what program uses it ?07:28
equexbrb install pizza in oven07:28
dazjorzits Miniserv by Webmin, thats ok, but where do I find the miniserv executable07:28
anacronhow do you install pizza?07:28
anacron:D07:28
Kirschthe same way you bake a cookie ;-)07:28
equexmount /var/pizza /dev/oven07:28
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anacronwohoo07:29
no_gatez_fanpizza you cannot automount07:29
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grouse:(07:29
delireequex: no need http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party07:29
dazjorzhey erm07:29
Kirschbad fs: pizza07:29
anacron:D07:29
dazjorzwhy don't you add that to /etc/fstab07:29
anacronubuntu goes pizza07:29
dazjorzyou'll get a pizza every boot07:29
dazjorz^^07:29
anacrondazjorz: that's the problem07:29
grouselp0: pizza on fire07:29
anacroni don't boot07:29
anacron:D07:29
no_gatez_fanyikez07:29
dazjorzHey wait07:30
Kirschhi07:30
dazjorzwhy then... don't you add it to CRON ?07:30
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anacronthat's a good idea07:30
dazjorzlike07:30
dazjorzevery 30 minutes, mount /var/pizza to /dev/oven07:30
dazjorzand then07:30
no_gatez_fanmake sure to add a pizza folder to media07:30
Kirschyou'll have to unmount the pizza tho won't you?07:30
Vital303hi! I am trying to make my sound card work. I think I have  found exactly what I need on the forum.  But I cant understand it. What does "went to 'init 1'" mean?07:30
beetlehow to reinstall the grub loader? need step by step instructions.07:31
dazjorzif( /var/pizza/state == "ready" ) { umount /var/pizza }07:31
Vital303"Okay, figured it out, went to 'init 1' and ran the commends from there, my SOUndblaster Live! 24" finally works!!!"07:31
Vital303I got it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=1930707:31
dazjorzVital303: It means that the Linux system got to init 107:31
dazjorzyou can do that yourself by typing init 107:31
dazjorzas a command07:31
Vital303OK07:31
Vital303thank you07:31
dazjorzit'll restart your pc07:31
dazjorz:)07:31
dazjorzi thought...07:32
dazjorz?07:32
dazjorzor single user mode07:32
dazjorzi can't remember07:32
Seveasit will not restart07:32
equexargh07:32
Seveas6 is restart07:32
Seveas0 is shutdown07:32
equexdo you see that i did now ?07:32
dazjorzehh xP sorry yea thats what I thought after a few seconds07:32
Vital303should I do it as 'root'?07:32
dazjorzWait07:32
dazjorzdont do that07:32
delireit's init -s07:32
dazjorzeh07:32
dazjorzyou want to go to single user mode ?07:32
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equexdelire: hehe, too bad pizza isnt included07:32
dazjorzinit 107:32
delireequex: ;)07:33
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dazjorzHow do I see where the executable that listens to port 10000 is ?07:33
Seveassudo netstat -tlnp | grep 1000007:33
dazjorzor, even better, how do I stop it from listening to port 1000007:33
delirei prefer netstat -tupa myself07:34
dazjorzit tells me:07:34
delirebut yep, that'll do it07:34
dazjorztcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:10000           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     20335/perl07:34
rsshi, I have problem installing Ubuntu on a HP Pavilion PC07:34
Seveasif it listens you need only -l not -a07:34
Seveasdazjorz, then it's a perl program :)07:34
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delireSeveas: hah you're right.07:34
dazjorzLogical, I could have thought that myself07:34
bur[n] errss: why?07:34
bur[n] er:)07:34
rssit goes till "bsdutils" and stops07:34
dazjorzhow do I find the location of that file or how do I terminate it07:35
rssbur[n] er, I have no idea07:35
bur[n] eranyone know if the new rhythmbox in breezy supports tag editing??07:35
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rssany one here got Ubuntu installed on a HP Pavilion PC?07:35
dazjorzSeveas: How do I find the location of the perl script and/or how do I terminate it07:35
equexrss yes07:35
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rssHas that got LightScribe DVD Writer?07:36
iconistI have a powerpc 7200/100... will ubuntu install on this? Or is it only the g# and above?07:36
Seveasdazjorz, lsof | grep 1000007:36
equexi have kubuntu with a k7 kernel07:36
Seveasthat'll give you a pid07:36
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equexrss i am not sure what brand it is, i think it is not LightScribe07:36
dazjorzminiserv. 20335       root    6u     IPv4      38266                TCP *:10000 (LISTEN)07:36
dazjorzminiserv. 20335       root    7u     IPv4      38267                UDP *:1000007:36
equexits panasonic or something07:37
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dazjorzSeveas: thats what it gives07:37
Seveasso  it's miniserv.pl :)07:37
Seveaskill 20335 dhould kill it07:37
dazjorzSeveas: Yes I know it is that filename xP07:37
dazjorzSeveas: Thats where I was looking for, thanks07:37
equexrss and i am having problems with the DVD *rom*07:37
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equexit doesnt read my burned DVDs from windows07:37
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iconistWill ubuntu install on a PowerPC 7200?07:38
dazjorzSeveas: Thanks, it works now !!07:38
dazjorz:)07:38
dazjorz=)07:38
equexrss and i have frequent lock ups07:38
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rsshmm07:40
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salutishello all07:42
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beetleafter i made a new partition before the linux partition and restarted my computer i got grub loader error 17. need step by step instructions on how to fix07:45
Chaotic_Shield!grub07:45
ubotuwell, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto07:45
Snippy!winex07:45
ubotuSnippy: Wish i knew07:45
Snippy!cedega07:45
ubotufrom memory, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega07:45
Kirsch!ubotu07:46
ubotuI heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".07:46
Kirsch!add07:46
ubotuI heard add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets07:46
Seveasdon't play with the bot in here, you can /msg hom too07:47
Seveashin*07:47
Seveashim*07:47
Kirschoh ok07:47
Seveasbeetle, you will need to edit menu.lst (and probably you need to reinstall grub)07:48
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bur[n] erwhy is the bot a him?07:51
bur[n] erwhy can't it be a hot chica ;)07:51
^thehatsrule^or it?07:51
delirei vote 'it'07:51
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delirethere aren't enough it's in the world07:51
Kirschthe bot just made fun of me07:51
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bur[n] eranyone using breezy?07:52
terrexme07:52
bur[n] eris X fixed?07:53
Kirschno07:53
=== bur[n] er is curious if it's time to apt-get dist-upgrade his breezy box
Kirschno i wouldn't07:53
delirei wouldn't either.07:53
bur[n] erwell... x doesn't work for me currently ;)07:53
Kirschi just asked, seveas said...07:53
bur[n] erbut i'll wait07:53
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OculusAquilaefor me it works07:53
delireunless of course masochism is a popular recreational activity in your part of the world.07:54
bur[n] erooh07:54
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bur[n] erone good report is better than before ;)07:54
bur[n] ersado masochism even07:54
delireok, go for that dist-upgrade07:54
OculusAquilaebut without internationalisation07:54
Kirschin breezy, they are getting rid of /usr/X11R6/07:54
bur[n] er;)07:54
Kirschthye are doing some other package now.07:54
dazjorzWTF07:55
dazjorz WHAT THE FUCK07:55
dazjorz!:!!::!07:55
ubotudazjorz: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:55
dazjorzErrrh07:55
Kirschlol07:55
dazjorzI was SSH'ing this whole day07:55
dazjorzandeh07:55
dazjorzI just found out errm07:55
dazjorzthat I wasn't sshing, i was on my own machine -.-'07:55
dazjorzsooo07:55
dazjorznow there is a lot of stuff on my own PC that I thought was on the OTHER pc -.-'07:55
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dazjorzplease kill me, someone, i gotta start all over07:56
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bur[n] erlol07:56
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piksihow easy it is to update the ubuntu iso with a new kernel and install from it?07:56
KirschLOL07:56
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terrexX is half-fixed07:56
h08817anacron, how would i update my version of ubuntu?07:57
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dazjorzAbandonando ?07:58
dazjorzdammit07:59
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dazjorzbecause of that all07:59
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dazjorzI installed a remote control program on my own pc -.-'07:59
dazjorzoooooooooh07:59
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dazjorzbecause I thought I was SSH'ing but i was actually just in a local terminal07:59
bur[n] erdazjorz: apt-get remove remotecontrolprogram ?07:59
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awb4422I'm having trouble with dvd playback. Only root can play dvd's - is my local user not in the right group?08:00
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bur[n] erawb4422: did you add this user upon ubuntu install?  or post-install?08:01
EasterSunshinehmm...slightly off topic this is, but the yahoo filters the mail i send with kmail as bulk spam...any workaround?08:01
awb4422during the install08:01
bur[n] erEasterSunshine: i know the quick one... use thunderbird or evolution ;)08:02
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anacronh08817: you mean kernel?08:02
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anacronh08817: search the right kernels with synaptic, and after they are installed reboot your computer and then select 686 mode after your system has booted up you can remove 386 kernel with synaptic08:03
nubbeAre there any e-book readers for linux,except acrobat/evince?08:03
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awb4422bur[n] er - it may not be groups, it could be something in fstab - maybe my cd-rom isnt mounted w/ the correct options to allow dvd playback for all users?08:04
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anacronhow to edit fluxbox config?08:04
anacronand how to set up backround for it08:04
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TheRookiehelp08:05
linuksoanacron: just edit ~/.fluxbox/menu init or keys. Read man fluxbox08:05
TheRookieexit08:05
EasterSunshinebur[n] er: thx that is actually very good advice and the perfect solution!08:05
narkcehI did install ubuntu and when the first stage was complete and i booted comp. Now it says grub hard disk error?08:05
narkcehwhat can i do08:05
dazjorzbur[n] er: I didn't install it though apt-get, because that wasn't possible.08:06
EdddieI'm having a problem with changing date/time, it crashes after I enter my password08:06
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Vital303I am listening to mp3 now08:07
narkcehany idea?08:07
Vital303thank you guys08:07
kemikawb4422:  where you have your dvds, how do you mount the filesystem ? could it be owned by root ?08:07
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kemiknarkceh:  nope, try google the exact errormsg08:08
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awb4422/dev/hda is /media/cdrom008:08
dazjorzwtf08:08
awb4422this is the line from fstab08:08
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awb4422/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       008:08
dazjorzis there md4 too ?08:08
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dazjorzhow long is that ago...08:08
awb4422its a dvd-rw/cd-rw combo08:08
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dazjorzI never heard of md4 next to md508:08
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AdmiralSennhey guys08:09
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AdmiralSennrunning gnome here.. my windows are doing weird things08:09
StormxHey sexies08:09
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Stormxhaha08:10
Stormxis that a gaming site for trannies?08:10
glickhey which flash do i need to get flash working in firefox08:10
glickflashplayer-mozilla08:10
AdmiralSennexample: Xchat exactly fills the space between the applications/gnome bar and the windows panel at the bottom08:10
AdmiralSennfirefox used to but doesn't now08:10
deliregpd: apparently you can compile the winex sources for free.08:10
glickor flashplugin-nonfree08:10
AdmiralSennblender used to but doesn't08:10
AdmiralSennetc08:10
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hi-fi_dkhow do I get the kernel source for the kernel i'm running in ubuntu ?08:11
anacroni misconfigured xorg and now i can't get back to tty7 where fluxbox was open, how do i kill it, so i can start it again?, startx starts only gnome, and if i log out it it goes back to tty108:11
gpddelire: do they support as many games?08:11
deliregpd: it's the same codebase from transgaming.com08:11
AdmiralSennhi-fi_dk: synaptic search for 'kernel' should give it up08:11
Dr_Willis ive never had much luck with winex. :( even with the supported games.08:11
EdddieI'm having a problem with changing date/time, it crashes after I enter my password08:11
Dr_Willisor cedega. :(08:11
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StormxxD08:11
AdmiralSennreally annoying08:11
delireAdmiralSenn: normally you have to start blender in windowed mode to have the correct performance. blender -w08:11
AdmiralSenndelire: I did08:11
grousedelire: modprobe tg3 did the trick08:11
grousethank you very much08:12
AdmiralSennthe problem is that it is in windowed mode, but it's HGUE08:12
AdmiralSenn*HUGE08:12
deliregrouse: good, don't forget to add tg3 to /etc/modules08:12
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AdmiralSennand it used to fit the window space perfectly08:12
deliregrouse: great ;)08:12
grousedelire: does that matter if this is just a live CD?08:12
gpdDr_Willis: ever tried Call of Duty?  just bought it (bit late)08:12
deliregrouse: ahah, no ;)08:12
grousei'll have to do it every time, won't i? :)08:12
deliregrouse: i thought you'd installed.08:12
grousesadly no08:12
deliregrouse: yep, everytime with a livecd08:12
Dr_Willisgpd,  not really. :P  Had soo many other annyonces with other games.. i just reboot to windows now.08:12
grousethanks again, must go for now08:13
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gpdDr_Willis: I'll give it a try as this is one of the few things left in windows that i need08:13
delirei notice that WoW works pretty much perfectly under wine08:13
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Dr_Willisgpd,  'need' a game. :P08:13
gpdmy Garmin GPS is the other thing...08:13
dazjorzmount /var/pizza /dev/oven -t margarita08:14
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gpdDr_Willis: s/need/desire/ better? :)08:14
beefsterguys, does anyone know if there is a package which is the equivalent to vcdgear in windoze that extracts mpg files from .bin files?08:14
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f_newtonheh08:14
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delirebeefster: i would poke around freshmeat.net for that sort of thing08:15
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cute_bettongwhat's the app for running a palm pilet in Linux?08:16
glickanyone here play america's army?08:16
glickhow is that?08:16
delirecute_bettong: there are a few. people seem to like kpilot08:16
cute_bettongthanx08:16
AdmiralSennglick: sometimes08:16
delireglick: about as exciting as the name suggests. "america" +"army"08:16
delireglick: get enough of that on tv ;)08:16
AdmiralSenndelire: lies!08:17
delireglick: but sure, it plays perfectly well08:17
dazjorzhow do I play games like San Andreas fast in Linux ?08:17
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dazjorzdo I have to install VMWare for that ?08:17
kemikdazjorz:  wine or cedega perhaps08:17
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muhammadOMGWTFBBQ08:17
SnippyHow can I open TGZ files?08:17
Snippy!tgz08:17
ubotuSnippy: Bugger all, i dunno08:17
delireAdmiralSenn: i'm sure there are ways of finding exact window positions, and setting padding etc. though i'm not clear on your exact problem.08:17
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AdmiralSenndelire: some of my windows are starting at the topof the screen08:18
deliredazjorz: these are games made for another OS, you will have to use a compatibility layer like cedega08:18
AdmiralSennand blender is starting at a huge size despite the -w option being set08:18
gpdSnippy: tar xvfz file.tgz08:18
delireAdmiralSenn: i would see #gnome08:18
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AdmiralSennthanks08:18
Snippythanks08:18
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Snippygpd: tar: Old option `C' requires an argument.08:20
SnippyTry `tar --help' for more information.08:20
dazjorzbaba...?!!08:20
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=== dazjorz wonders if there is some way to get Cedega free ..?
gpdSnippy: where did tyou get the C from ?  tar xvfz ...08:21
beefsterdelire - thanks08:21
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EasterSunshinehmm...thunderbird doesn't let me fetch mail from /var/mail/ , it requires that i have a pop3 serevr running?08:22
f_newtonEasterSunshine, try a root console, type mutt or go to /var/mail/whatever it is/08:24
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gpddoes everybody here use ext3 or are we trying xfs/jfs/reiser?08:25
Deterministthis doesnt make sense. my integrated 855 intel gfx card on my laptop runs 3d graphics much faster than my desktop's ati radeon 9600. even had ATI drivers installed...08:25
AdmiralSenngah08:25
AdmiralSenn#gnome is dead08:25
glickis AA open source?08:25
Deterministany idea how to solve this? my 3d performance on the radeon card just sucks big time08:25
HappyFoolEasterSunshine: googling for Thunderbird /var/mail gives some possibly useful hits, e.g., http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-March/080586.html08:25
f_newtoni am hoping if I am wrong that someone will correct me in an embarrassingly effective manner08:25
DVSoftwaregpd, i'm using reiser08:25
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ugohey guys...08:25
f_newtonwell gosh DVSoftware I'll write that down08:26
ugoi cant seem to find the manpages for fork, bind, accept etc on my ubuntu box08:26
gpdDVSoftware: reiser is disliked by many... any problems?08:26
ugoam i missing something or do i have to install a package ?08:26
DVSoftwareno problems at all08:26
HappyFoolugo: install manpages-dev (i think)08:26
EasterSunshinethx HappYFool08:26
ugoahh....08:26
DVSoftwarei'm using reiser longer than year i think08:27
gpdare there tools for reading the drive under windows?08:27
HappyFoolugo: you'll also probably need build-essential (for gcc/g++/make) and various -dev packages, depending on what you want to build08:27
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f_newtonheh I thought I was in the "other room" lol08:27
DVSoftwarebut in my country power outages are very common thing08:27
DVSoftwareand i don't have ups08:27
DVSoftwarei've never got any corrupted data08:28
f_newtonDVSoftware, get a generator or build one from a some care alternators08:28
HappyFoolerk. that reminds me to get ups before thunderstorm season comes08:28
ugoHappyFool thanks08:28
DVSoftwaregtg, bbl08:28
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gpdDVSoftware: ext2fsd for windows makes life easy if i need to read08:28
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h08817hey i need help installing a screensaver08:30
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dazjorz!cedega08:31
ubotucedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega08:31
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Evanhi08:32
Evanhello oooooooo any body there08:33
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h08817how can i install a program from a website?08:33
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Evani dont no08:33
h08817i want the xsnow screen saver08:33
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kemikh08817:  you download it08:33
juanejhey ppl my hp cd-writer 9100 doesnt burn anything with k3b :(08:33
h08817kemik, how i am a noob to linux08:33
Evanya wut  kemik said08:33
vincehey wen ever i try to play a mp3 with xmms it freezes08:33
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kemikh08817:  depends, isit just sourcecode, or a .deb package?08:34
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Evano right linux diffrent from windows08:34
kemikvince:  could be that your soundcard is busy08:34
alrightaWhenever I try to open a new document(which a moment before I created) - I always get the same error - "Couldn't display <location here..>08:34
vinceno nothing is using my sound card08:34
h08817a tar08:34
aruh08817: I would try System > Administration > Synaptic then search for xsnow and install it08:34
Evani dont like linux cause you cant play that many good games on it08:34
h08817what if it isn't there08:34
lakini'm walking my dad through a pretty much default ubuntu install with no networking over the phone.  (Default hoary CD's from shipit).  There was a problem with postfix,  is this normal?  Should I just rerun the base system install again?08:35
aruadd universe and search again08:35
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KirschEvan: what game?08:35
kemikh08817:  download the tarball, type "tar -zxvf filename.gz.tar" and then read the INSTALL or README... most likely the procedure is "./configure" "make" "sudo make install"08:35
linuksoh08817: xsnow is in universe, I just checked....08:35
Evankirsch08:35
juanejhow do i hot scsi emulation?08:36
vincedo i need a plugin or sumthin?08:36
h08817linukso, what does that mean?08:36
Kirschyes?08:36
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linuksoh08817: use synaptic, it will make you life easier...08:36
kemikh08817:  but it's better to get the package through apt/synaptic08:36
kemik!tell h08817 about universe08:36
Evani m trying to find out wut games work on linux and wut dont08:36
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klaymhow can I get the window borders used on gperfection? I have all else working, but the border option won't show up, even though gperfection folder is in .themes08:36
kemik!tell h08817 about repositories08:36
Snippyhow can I move a folder to the /usr/ folder?08:36
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xeroxyo08:36
kemikSnippy:  mv08:36
Kirsch!cedega08:37
ubotuwell, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega08:37
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alrightalol.. help?08:37
xeroxIs there a freenode channel or some mailing list to keep updated with the breezy developement?08:37
Spudchathi guys my firefox stopped working yesterday so i uninstalled it but now cant figure out wehat packages i need to reinstall it08:37
h08817ok while i am reading that i have a little problem with installing linux on a basically brand new computer and it just won't work08:37
deejoe_/pub/linux/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/ has a 2.6.12 restricted-modules package, but I can find no 2.6.12 kernel package anywhere.  Any pointers as to where it might be, or why the modules would be in a repository but the matching binary kernel package isn't?08:37
linuksoklaym: what borders?08:37
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Spudchatany help is greatly appreciated08:37
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Snippylike   " mv home/dl/usr/ /usr/ ?08:37
linuksoSpudchat: run apt-cache search firefox08:37
juanejwhere do i find my cd-writer config file?08:37
lakinit sounds like the CD is scratched.  Damn.08:37
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klaymlinukso: the borders where you have the x-button, etc08:38
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Evan who knows of an good games for linix08:38
logical_markhey guys. I went into ubuntu System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop and I enabled it, but I dont know the port I need to forward on my router.08:38
Spudchatit found a whole bunch08:38
logical_markEvan, Unreal Tournement 2004 runs on linux08:38
robertjheya all, anyone got a recommendation on a bluetooth pen?08:38
eriscohow do i remove wine from my computer?08:38
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linuksoklaym: I understood that, but have you got an picture i.ex?08:38
Evanmark wut do u do in tit08:38
Evanit08:38
erisco'rpm -e wine' isn't working, it says to use alien08:38
klaymlinukso: here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/23563-1.jpg08:39
Kirscherisco: sudo apt-cache search wine; sudo apt-remove <what apt-cache search returns>08:39
kemikSnippy:  or use nautilus click-and-drag08:39
Snippypermission denied08:39
gpdKirsch: no... dpkg -l  |grep wine  ... then apt-get remove08:39
kemikerisco:  rpm is for Redhat08:39
logical_markEvan, it is a first person shooter08:39
logical_marka lot of people play it08:39
Evancool08:39
Spudchatso the firefox package and any thing else it needs should be fine to run?08:39
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deejoe_Evan, I like bzflag, but that's too old school for some people.08:40
logical_markhey guys. I went into ubuntu System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop and I enabled it, but I dont know the port I need to forward on my router.08:40
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kemikerisco:  and Wine is available from apt-get repositories08:40
gpdwhere is the system v config editor in gnome... can't find it08:40
Evandeejoe wut the hell is that08:40
logical_markgpd, where you asking me?08:40
gpdlogical_mark: no, anyone who knows...08:40
ubuntu_how would I go about shrinking an ext3 partition??08:41
hubsihow do i mount a pati. !?08:41
h08817can any1 tell me what this means? unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help08:41
deejoe_Evan, tank sim08:41
kemikSnippy:  why are you moving stuff into /usr ? (you can probably do "sudo nautilus" however, im not sure if i recommend what you're doing ;) )08:41
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Evandee joe a tank simulation08:41
h08817linukso, well i tried that repository thing08:41
kemik!tell hubsi about mount08:41
bur[n] erubuntu_: gparted or qtparted08:41
luigpd: the v or the vi?08:41
h08817and i still didn't find it08:41
logical_markso no one know what port remote desktop runs on?08:42
kemikh08817:  did you update ? (apt-get update)08:42
gpdlui graphical front ent to sysv-rc-conf08:42
linuksoklaym: did you look at art.gnome.org08:42
deejoe_Evan, it's networked, so you can play capture the flag or other team scenarios online.08:42
h08817no i didn't08:42
bur[n] eranyone know how to drop down to a term from a broken X in breezy?  ctrl+alt+f2 f3, etc, don't work08:42
Evandee joe were do u get this game08:42
linuksoklaym: it look quite similar to several of the stock gnome borders08:42
kemikh08817:  xsnow - Brings Christmas to your desktop <-- is that what you want?08:42
BockBilbo... anyone here knows if there is a bug related to nautilus and nfs or smbfs?08:42
BockBilbo:S08:42
h08817eys08:42
linuksoh08817: did you select08:42
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luigpd: oops, i dn't know08:43
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luigpd: oops, i don't know08:43
linuksoh08817: did you add universe (and mulitverse) from synaptic?08:43
kemikBockBilbo:  there are at least to samba.. or has been bugs08:43
nubbeAnyone know of e-book readers for ubuntu?08:43
wickedlesterbur[n] er it should be ctrl+alt+F108:43
Spudchatallright so i installed fiefox, mozilla-firefox and the english language08:43
gpdlui: it should be in gnome-utils but not there08:43
highvoltagenubbe: xpdf?08:43
Evano08:43
bur[n] erwickedlester: still nothin08:43
deejoe_Evan, *I* get it from Debian repositories, but bzflag.org and google might have other clues.08:43
h08817no what is that?08:43
Spudchatanthing im missing?08:43
xeroxbur[n] er, the topic states "Please, don't use breezy yet"08:43
wickedlesterctrl+alt+backspace?08:43
bur[n] erwickedlester: why not f2, f3, etc08:43
h08817linukso, how do i do that?08:44
bur[n] eryeah i know08:44
EvanDee joe k thanks a lot08:44
nubbehighvoltage, works for more than pdf?08:44
BockBilbokemik, see, every once in a while, nautiluse gets frozen08:44
deejoe_Evan, have fun.08:44
bur[n] erwickedlester: tried that too... think I just have to go to recovery mode or boot a livecd08:44
Evandee joe k bye08:44
BockBilbobecause im working with a remote share mounted on my system via nfs or smbfs08:44
linukso!repositories08:44
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:44
kemikh08817:  read your links from ubotu08:44
bur[n] erjust curious if there was some weird key combo i didn't know about08:44
BockBilboi dnt know if thats normal :S08:44
linuksoh08817: take a look at that.08:44
bur[n] erthanks anyway08:44
wickedlestermaybe you have enabled the windows ctrl+alt+delete :D08:44
Spudchatdamn it still wont work :(08:44
kemikBockBilbo:  my entire computer locked up while heavy loadinf over the samba-mounts...08:44
kemikBockBilbo:  solved my problems with switching to NFS08:45
BockBilbokemik, i have the same problem08:45
BockBilbobut the problem still there using nfs08:45
linuksoSpudchat: Is it a problem for all users?08:45
BockBilbo:S08:45
Spudchatim the only one08:45
linuksoSpudchat: it might be a problem with you profile08:45
kemikthat sucks :/08:45
Spudchatdamn08:45
Spudchathow would i find out? and do you think restarting would help?08:45
linuksoSpudchat: just remove ~/.mozilla/firefox08:45
linuksoor rename it08:46
linuksoand try again08:46
Spudchattry running it again?08:46
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Spudchator installin it again08:46
linuksono no, no need to reinstall08:46
Spudchathmm allright08:46
linuksojust try starting it again08:46
eriscohow do i add a folder into my /etc/ folder with root?08:46
linuksomight be easier if you describe the error a bit more.08:46
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eriscowhat is the command is what i am asking?08:47
linuksoerisco: sudo mkdir /etc/foo08:47
Spudchatit just says starting firefox and then never does08:47
zAo^Are the restricted modules for kernel 2.6.12-6.7 the same as the ones for kernel  2.6.12-6.8?08:47
linuksoSpudchat: try starting firefox from gnome-terminal08:47
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gpdzAo^: where are you getting that kernel/08:48
zAo^Breezy08:48
BTJusticeI am trying ot mount my WIndows hard drives.  I run "sudo fdisk -l" which lists all of my installed hard drives then I run "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/backup/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222" to mount one of them (this is a backup drive with documents nad pictures) and it errors out.  What I am doing wrong?08:48
gpdzAo^: I am tempted by a chroot breezy for testing... but too unstable for main machine :)08:49
keikozBTJustice08:49
gpdBTJustice: what is the error08:49
zAo^its on my main machine here :$08:49
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BTJusticeLet me paste it...08:49
keikozthe options come before arguments08:49
eriscoi am trying to compile wine, but it says there is no C compiler in $PATH08:49
eriscowhere can i complie wine?08:49
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eriscoit is in my etc folder08:49
HappyFoolinstall 'build-essential'08:49
keikozwhy compile wine ?08:49
BTJustice4 lines...08:50
linuksoerisco: get it with aptitude08:50
keikozit is in repositories08:50
BTJusticemount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,08:50
BTJustice       missing codepage or other error08:50
BTJustice       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try08:50
BTJustice       dmesg | tail  or so08:50
keikozapt-get wine08:50
keikozapt-get install wine08:50
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Chaotic_Shieldyou need to get the repository for wine though08:50
eriscoi am compiling wine08:50
Chaotic_Shieldwine.sourceforge.net I think it is08:50
Chaotic_Shieldjust check out winehq.com08:50
keikozjust main or universe08:50
highvoltagekeikoz: you used to use gentoo?08:50
keikozuniverse i huess08:50
h08817linukso, doesn't work for me so i guess i can't get it08:50
erisconot using synaptic08:50
keikozhighvoltage i did use it but i'm on ubuntu now; why ?08:51
HappyFoolerisco: hang on, someone posted a guide to compiling wine08:51
luigpd: try /usr/share/sysvinit08:51
HappyFoolerisco: let me see if i can find it08:51
Chaotic_ShieldHappyFool, it's on winehq.com08:51
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HappyFoolerisco: oh, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone08:51
HappyFoolerisco: stop at the 'Setting up Flashplayer' step ;)08:51
h08817install help here please08:52
gpdlui: I used sysv-rc-conf - it was all good, sysvconfig is broke though08:52
alrightaWhenever I try to open a new document(which a moment before I created) - I always get the same error - "Couldn't display <location here..>08:52
h08817for ubuntu08:52
juanejPPL: Does anybody have a hp 9100 CD-Writer??08:52
BTJusticekeikoz & gpd: See the error I pasted?08:52
highvoltagekeikoz: i started using gentoo on one computer recently, and whenever i come back to my ubuntu box i type "apt-get program" instead of "apt-get install program", just like you did.08:52
keikozBTJustice the options come before arguments08:52
linuksoh08817: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin08:52
keikozand try without the nls=08:53
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keikozi'm not sure about this option08:53
BTJusticekeikoz: What does that mean?  I am, new to Linux.08:53
h08817where is pastebin?08:53
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keikozjust put the options before /dev/hda ...08:53
cute_bettong!pastebin08:53
ubotu[pastebin]  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood08:53
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cute_bettongubotu hi08:53
ubotuque tal08:53
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h08817bueno08:53
cute_bettongwants his own bot >.<08:54
keikozhighvoltage ah ... emerge power :p08:54
luigpd: I don't see any sysv-rc-conf08:54
gpdlui you have to apt-get it :)08:54
BTJustice"sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/backup/"  ???08:54
gpdBTJustice: should work08:54
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keikozthat's better yes08:54
BTJusticeok, let me try that08:54
Raptoidselamlar.08:54
luigpd: that's why I don't see any :)08:54
keikozbut i'm still not sure about nls=08:54
phixionis there anyway to stop dvd's 'skipping' on playback ? :/08:54
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keikozjust try it like this, you'll be fixed08:55
psuranihello08:55
luiI'm going to eat..... (hungry)08:55
nubbeDoes anyone have experience with ntfsfix? I'm going to run it on a big partition, is it (relatively) safe?08:55
psuraniare u people on ubuntu ?08:55
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phixionyes08:55
keikoznubbe nothing about ntfs is safe :p08:55
keikozexcept reading it ...08:55
psuranihey i cannt install any packages, it says gcc and cc not avaiable !!08:55
nubbekeikoz, hehe, don't I know it  :)08:55
gpdBTJustice: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,NTFS)08:55
abarbacciaphixion, is DMA enabled on your CDROM drive08:56
h08817linukso, ok there it is08:56
gpdBTJustice: nls = native language support... unicode...08:56
phixionpsurani, apt-get install build-essential08:56
nubbeare there other tools than ntfsfix?08:56
phixionah, good point abarbaccia08:56
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linuksoh08817: address?08:56
BTJusticeok, thanks guys08:56
alrightaguys.. some help here? :/08:56
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h08817linukso, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/33143408:57
BTJusticegpd: That link has no text on page08:57
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gpdBTJustice: works for me... it has weird ( and , though... :(08:58
zygadoes anyone know of a GUI for hdparam?08:58
jmannshow can i increase the swap space in gnome for a smoother running gui enviroment?08:58
zyga(hdparam.conf)08:58
linuksoh08817: looks good, and sudo aptitude install xsnow doesn't work?08:58
gpdBTJustice: !google nls=utf8 mount ntfs ... first hit...08:58
h08817what do u mean08:58
h08817can i just do sudo apt-get install xsnow?08:58
linuksoh08817: yes08:58
jmannsanybody know what i'm talking about?08:58
h08817didn't work08:59
h08817couldn't find the packatge08:59
BTJusticegpd: thatp age works, thanks, I'll read it08:59
jmannscan anyone help me out?08:59
linuksojmanns: you could increase the swap space, but I doubt it would speed up your system...08:59
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phixion!repositories09:02
ubotu[repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:02
linuksoh08817: run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xsnow"09:02
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deejoe_I'll try this again... /pub/linux/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/ has a 2.6.12 restricted-modules package, but I can find no 2.6.12 kernel package anywhere.  Any pointers as to where it might be, or why the modules would be in a repository but the matching binary kernel package isn't?09:02
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deejoe_this is on one of the us mirrors, btw09:03
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Xyc0I need a program that will help me sniff out hot spots for my wireless network, anyone point me in the right direction?09:04
HappyFooldeejoe_: maybe it's for breezy?09:04
Mikshow can i unmount my floppy drive forever...it doesnt work so i see no need in having it...i dont want it to appear anymore in "Computer"09:04
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glickXyc0, kismet?09:04
HappyFooldeejoe_: i doubt you can install it in hoary09:04
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Xyc0glick: Does that work for G format as well?09:05
deejoe_HappyFool:  not sure why not:  the kernels shouldn't be so tied to the userland that that can't be done:  I ran a KNOPPIX kernel with hoary, for instance.  The reason I'm looking for this is that madwifi drivers for my laptops atheros are broken in the 2.6.10 that came with hoary.  But the KNOPPIX kernel doesn't have hibernate (swsusp2 I think), but Ubuntu does.  I'd like to have both :-)09:05
HappyFooldeejoe_: Seveas earlier said that hotplug will break09:06
Poromiesdeejoe_: sry im coming in between from the bushes, but do you need 2.6.12 kernel and restrited-modules / headers for it?09:06
glickXyc0, im not sure, check out the website, i know the guy who develops it, its very active09:06
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glickXyc0, #kismet09:06
eriscohow do i install dev packages? i need Xlib/Xfree8609:06
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Poromiesdeejoe_: coz i installed them all from breezy repos to my hoary (or is it hoary then.. hmm..)09:06
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HappyFoolerisco: try install 'x-window-system-dev'09:07
Spudchatguys im still not having any luck09:07
deejoe_Poromies, I'm hoping 2.6.12 has working madwifi.  The KNOPPIX was 2.6.11, and its wifi worked with my built-in atheros.09:07
HappyFoolerisco: did you read the wiki page i pointed you too?09:07
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HappyFoolerisco: if you followed those instructions, the wine dependencies should be installed for you09:07
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Stormxhey! Who has wine installed?09:07
cute_bettongi use cedega09:08
cute_bettongwith point2play09:08
Poromiesdeejoe_: you just need to edit sources.list and change all hoary -> breezy, then update synaptic and search for the files you need, install them and then change repos back to hoary, and then update synaptic again :)09:08
SubfixAnyone know a solution for the drivers in Ubuntu not installing correctly? None of my hardware is detected (not even the CPU)... only my gfx card09:08
HappyFoolerisco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone09:08
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HappyFoolerisco: for the compiler, install the 'build-essential' package09:08
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jordan_does anyone know a great how to for a CVS wine build for ubuntu?09:08
SubfixI have 'version magic' errors, that's all I know of.09:08
deejoe_Poromies:  heh.  That might be worth a try.09:08
Poromiesdeejoe_: thats how i got my perfectly working 2.6.12 kernel with ati-drivers and wifi :)09:08
delirejordan_: you mean winex?09:09
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HappyFoolerisco: please read the wiki page09:09
HappyFoolerisco: it says 'FlashPlayer', but the initial sections will tell you how to install wine09:09
StormxWho has wine installed and working?09:09
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pfpo/09:09
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piksi*** how to build a 5.04 install iso with a newer kernel (the current 5.04 cannot recognize sata atapi dvd and sata hdd) ***09:09
Poromiesdeejoe_: but remember not to do a full system update from breezy, then you'll just be getting everything breezed to problem-land :)09:09
piksii need some serious help with this :->09:09
crimsundeejoe_: as in the archive management software?09:10
deejoe_crimsun: yes09:10
pfpStormx: i have, altough i only used (yuk) lotus notes with it09:10
crimsundeejoe_: admin/madison-lite09:10
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elixyr_faeryanyone here have the ares plug-in for giFT?09:11
delirejordan_: but that page you just gave me has the entire instructions.09:11
Xyc0damn it is US mirrors broken again?09:11
deejoe_Poromies, no worries, the only ubuntu I'm running at the moment is a hoary live CD.  laptop randomly decided it didn't want to recognize the partition ubuntu was installed on last weekend.09:11
crimsunXyc0: they seem fine to me, why?09:11
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deejoe_crimsun: thank you!09:12
jasmuzelixyr_faery: nope, what client are you using?09:12
SubfixDoes Kubuntu come with GNOME as well as KDE?09:12
asfraDoes java programs work equally on both windows and linux? of course u have to hava java-enviroment09:12
jasmuzSubfix: nope, just KDE09:12
HappyFoolSubfix: not the kubuntu CD; you can easily install gnome as well, though09:12
elixyr_faeryclient? as in interface? I havent tried running it yet.09:13
crimsunasfra: that's the goal at least. YMMV.09:13
elixyr_faeryI'm only running setup once.09:13
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SubfixThanks guys.09:13
HappyFooli.e., write once, run everywhere (ymmv)09:13
Subfixhopefully Kubuntu doesn'09:13
BTJusticegpd:  That takes care of my mount problem I believe, thank you.09:13
Subfixt yield the same driver error09:13
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asfracrimsun: ok, that would be great09:14
HappyFoolSubfix: the only difference between kubuntu/ubuntu is the desktop environment09:14
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me get my Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card to work?09:14
HappyFoolSubfix: i.e., same kernel, same system libraries, etc.09:14
cute_bettongmy 5.1 worked right off the bat09:14
crimsunBTJustice: you need the snd_ca0106 driver.09:14
crimsun!tell BTJustice about alsa-source09:14
BTJusticecrisun: ty09:14
piksiPoromies: any help for a fellow finn for a sata hdd laptop install? :->09:14
cute_bettongdo i need the same driver for my sb Live 5.1?09:14
jasmuzHappyFool: I love my Gnome Desktop09:15
crimsuncute_bettong: no, you need the standard snd_emu10k1 driver, why?09:15
jasmuz:)09:15
cute_bettongjust wondering09:15
cute_bettongthe card works perfectly right now09:15
cute_bettongi was just wondering09:15
cute_bettonglol09:15
gpdBTJustice: congratulations on your windows mount :)09:15
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jasmuzpiksi: SATA installs are troublesome sometimes09:15
piksijasmuz: yeah, i've experienced that with both debian and ubuntu installers :-/09:16
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SubfixWell, maybe it will install right09:16
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JDahlpiksi, sometimes changing BIOS settings will help09:16
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SubfixHappyFool: the /lib/modules directory went crazy with Ubuntu09:16
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HappyFoolby 'went crazy' you mean?09:17
piksiJDahl: there are only User / Other Atapi / Auto for hdd and dvd drives, only dma/pio transfer modes can be changed :-<09:17
jasmuzpiksi: how are you interfacing SATA drives to a laptop?09:17
SubfixHappyFool: the file structure differed from what it looked for when booting, so i copied the files around and now i get these version errors09:17
brokeboyanyone up to help an ubuntu newbie?09:17
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gpdjasmuz: maybe he is using a SATA drive in a firewire / USB enclosure?09:18
HappyFoolSubfix: worrying09:18
jasmuzbrokeboy: what can we help you wiht?09:18
Spudchatthanks for the help i booted up in gnome and it worked!!!09:18
jasmuzwith?09:18
SubfixHappyFool: I had a dir called '2.6.10-5-386' and it was looking for modules.dep in '2.6.11-6mdk'09:18
piksijasmuz: gpd: no no, this is a builtin sata hdd with intel 82801fbe controller, the nec dvd works over atapi09:18
brokeboyjust made the switch from windows and trying to get limewire up and running09:18
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crimsunSubfix: that's odd. Why did you have a Mandriva/Mandrake kernel installed?09:19
HappyFoolSubfix: mdk sounds like mandrake to me09:19
jasmuzgpd: that sounds unpractical, if you install ubuntu you would like to move around with it09:19
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Subfix...09:19
Subfixi never thought of that09:19
brokeboythink i'm having problems with java. (?)09:19
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jasmuzpiksi: ohh; cant help you much there....i dont know jack about laptops09:19
Subfixall i used was an ubuntu cd, although mandriva is installed on hdb09:19
brk3can anyone recommend whats the best laptop to use with linux?09:19
cute_bettongi can help with the java09:19
cute_bettong^_^09:20
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deejoe_brk3:  I just went into a store with a live CD and bought the one that I though worked best with it.09:20
jasmuzbrokeboy: did you install java already?09:20
cute_bettongIBM THINKPAD has a good rep with Ubuntu09:20
deejoe_(of the ones they offered, that is)09:20
piksijasmuz: well, the only thing i would need is a newer kernel for the ubuntu install :-/ but i don't know how to embed it into the iso09:20
cute_bettongafaik09:20
JDahlpiksi, does Linux freeze during boot with kernel panic? I've had my shares of related problems09:20
brk3deejoe_: heh good idea09:20
brk3the main thing i want to work well is wlan09:21
HappyFoolSubfix: very odd; I can't see why ubuntu would even know about the mandrake kernels09:21
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Subfixwow09:21
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Arktisbrk3: compaqs are generally good (i have one) but I don't remember if they ever got the 3d mobility chips done.09:21
SubfixHappyFool: I just thought of something...09:21
piksiJDahl: knoppix 4.0 works perfectly immediately with both dvd boot and hdd install, but with ubuntu 5.04 and debian sarge installers they just fuckup09:21
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brokeboyi dont know my ass from a hole in the ground about the ubuntu interface.  cant get the right program from sun website to run limewire with.  don't even know how to run the program if i got the right one.09:21
jasmuzpiksi: The install cd runs with a 2.6.10-5 wich is the stable of that branch09:21
piksiJDahl: debian claims it cannot find any hdd or partitions and ubuntu says it cannot find cd-rom09:21
SubfixHappyFool: My bootloader was already installed on hdb, and I'm thinking I missed something basic here: the "Image" in the bootloader09:21
brk3is anyone using wlan here with a laptop?09:22
alejandrosomeone missing xmodmap command? now xbase-clients doesn't install it.09:22
deejoe_brk3: one thing that caught me up for a while was that they put little adhesive-backed anti-theft tags in the bed of the optical drives, which meant the CD wouldn't spin.  I peeled them off and relocated them, and then things worked normally.  Though, it made me a little nervous, even though the things were also locked down pretty tight with a cable.09:22
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highvoltagebrk3: i am09:22
HappyFoolSubfix: possibly09:22
linuksobrk3: me too09:22
jasmuzbrokeboy: java can be done easier09:22
SubfixHappyFool: I think my bootloader is using a mandrake boot image... it's the only option there09:22
Arktisme too09:22
brokeboyhow?09:22
pfppiksi: hmm, you could boot from knoppix, then clone a working ubuntu installation over the network... supposing one is available :)09:22
TreeFrogHi all.. nice and busy here09:22
brk3highvoltage: what laptop?09:22
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Subfixdamn. it all makes sense now09:22
highvoltageTreeFrog: always :)09:22
piksipfp: urgh, how the hell to do that? :-> any easier ways available? ;->09:22
brk3Arktis: what laptop?09:23
highvoltagebrk3: IBM T4209:23
ArktisCompaq 250009:23
HappyFoolSubfix: the ubuntu hoary install was quite good about detecting other OS installs (well, only warty and windows xp) and adding them to grub's boot list09:23
linuksobrk3: Dell inspiron 8100 with 3com wlan card09:23
piksipfp: how about mounting ubuntu install cd iso to some point and replace the kernel with newer one configured properly?09:23
JDahlpiksi, there's something broken with SATA support in the ramdisk image on Debian09:23
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SubfixHappyFool: well, i think it installed grub on hda, and everything is booting from lilo09:23
Subfixhdb09:23
brk3is there a nice gui to using it?09:23
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HappyFoolSubfix: ah. anyway, i'm guessing if you tweak the lilo config you can fix it09:23
piksiJDahl: oh, can anything be done to fix it?09:23
Arktiswhat, the wlan?  sure.  but you've got to wrestle with ndiswrapper09:24
brk3Arktis: i hear there are ones you dont have to bother with ndiswrapper09:24
Arktisthere are now native drivers for the rt2500usb (wusb54g)09:24
pfppiksi: could work, though i have no idea how to do that... :/09:24
Arktisit's an adapter that you can get at radio shack and plug into any computer09:25
Arktis(wireless)09:25
ArktisI have one09:25
Spudchatlinukso, thanks the gnome terminal did it09:25
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SubfixHappyFool: How do I uninstall the bootloader on hdb?09:25
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TreeFrogHey Anychance I can pick someones brains about setting up streamtuner and Mplayer setup?09:25
JDahlpiksi, someone more informed than me tried to guide me through it, but I eventually gave up. You have to rebuild the ramdisk image, and be more generous with amount the of SATA related modules you load09:25
HappyFoolSubfix: um09:25
pfppiksi: cloning mahcines over the net is quite simple, eg. "ssh root@workingmachine tar cpf - --exclude=/proc / | tar -xpf - -C /mnt/laptop"09:26
HappyFoolSubfix: tell your BIOS to boot from hda maybe?09:26
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brk3are the nc laptops that ubuntu are supporting new enough models?09:26
piksiJDahl: ok, thanks anyway :-)09:26
Subfixworth a try. thanks for the help...09:26
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HappyFoolSubfix: i'm not sure what you want to do09:26
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Arktisdunno, brk309:26
HappyFoolSubfix: i would guess you could just boot mandrake, edit lilo.conf and run lilo to update the bootloader config09:27
JDahlpiksi, in short, with the stock version, not all modules are loaded09:27
Darth_Kernelbuenas!09:27
ArktisI'd try breezy for any newer laptops though.09:27
eriscois there anyway i can get ALL dev packages?09:27
piksipfp: this sucks coz i have only this laptop :-D09:27
Arktiswhen I got mine, hoary was still in development and that's what I wnet with.  I really didn't have any problems.09:27
delireerisco: ?09:27
SubfixHappyFool: eh, well. my installation of ubuntu got effed up, so i need to reinstall that (that whole renameing folders bit changed some files automatically, to my surprise)09:27
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cute_bettongin may i orderd 100 Ubuntu cd's how come i haven't gotten them yet09:28
piksiJDahl: i tried loading all sort of sata modules during installer bootup from a second console but apparently they were wrong or not enough :-/09:28
delireerisco: that's madness09:28
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lakinwith the default ubuntu install disks, is there a way to run the integrity checks before anything else?09:28
cute_bettongi got the 10 that i orderd but not the others >.<09:28
glickcute_bettong, took me a long time to get mine09:28
JDahlpiksi, the installation is normally fine... it's the installed ramdisk than doesnt load all the modules you need09:28
glickthey were shipped all the way from belgium and the media rate09:28
lakincute_bettong, larger orders have more likelihood to be caught up in customs as well.09:28
HappyFoollakin: you can use 'md5sum' to check the disks, assuming you have a working computer09:28
delirecute_bettong: 2 months here09:28
JDahlpiksi, (I think)09:28
thrice`cute_bettong, how the hell should we know that09:29
cute_bettong>.< damn woulden't they tell me about that though?09:29
HappyFoollakin: i.e., windows or other linux or whatever09:29
lakinHappyFool, I'm going to be getting my dad to do this over the phone, I'd prefer another way.09:29
asfrahow do I  run a ' .sh ' -file? it's a bourne-again script? (no need to say that I'm a n00b i guess :)09:29
Arktisanybody know how to setup firestarter so it doesn't interfere with bittorrent?09:29
thrice`asfra, sh file.sh09:29
TreeFrogHey is there a place I can go to ask some Newbei stuff about streamtuner setup? It is recking my head!!09:29
piksiJDahl: oh well... so apparently i need to wait for a new release? :-/ (since i'm not a master in tweaking the system)09:29
lakinThe install has an integrity check builtin, but unless we pick expert, or a step fails, I'm not sure how to get to that first.09:29
pfppiksi: you should force some friend to install ubuntu :)09:29
delireasfra ./file.sh or sh file.sh09:29
delireasfra: the former only if it's executable09:29
cute_bettongif they got caught in customes woulden't they tell me?09:29
HappyFoollakin: sorry, i don't remember when the integrity check happens09:29
piksipfp: my friend tried but eventually gave up and installed a bloated knoppix instead, i hate it ;->09:29
JDahlpiksi, for me the installation always worked, but all subsequent boots would freeze with kernel panic... the bad news is that it's a well-documented critical bug, that people apparently doesnt care about09:30
lakinHappyFool, that's ok.  I'll do some more research.09:30
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asfradelire: yes, this is what i have been trying, but didn't work.. i'll try what u said first.. thanks09:30
crimsunJDahl: I wouldn't say that they don't care about it, but have you provided enough debugging info for them?09:30
cute_bettongif the 100 cd's i orderd got stuck in custums woulden't i get a letter or something?09:31
JDahlcrimsun, there was rants after rants about it one year ago Debian lists09:31
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anacronAHHH my wlan works now, but how do i make wlan card found at boot?09:31
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piksiJDahl: since knoppix works perfectly and is debian based ... can i assume debian and ubuntu would too after installation?09:31
delireanacron: see /etc/network/interfaces09:32
glickhey has anyone used the m68hcxx-gnu development tools?09:32
Arktisindeed.  auto wlan009:32
glickgcc-m68hcxx09:32
glick?09:32
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delireanacron: also ensure any modules you need to support this card go into /etc/modules09:32
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anacronoh man09:32
anacronhow should i know which modules it uses...09:32
JDahlpiksi, it depends on the hardware, I think..09:32
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johaHi all!09:33
delireanacron: do you remember loading any modules (drivers) to get it to work?09:33
Arktisanacron, you using ndiswrapper?09:33
glickhas anyone cused the cross compiler?09:33
johaIs it possible to configure Ubuntu so that it doesn't lock the screen when returning from hibernation?09:33
anacronArktis: no09:33
HappyFoolknowing compilers, i imagine many people have cussed it09:33
Arktisoh.  nevermind then.09:33
lemonsplsquick easy question: on the mirrors there are two directories /5.04 and /hoary both seem to contain the same latest version of ubuntu? why, or are there differnces?09:33
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anacrondelire: well i can get those, do i add all of them?09:34
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Arktislemonspls, try 'eenie meenie minie moe' =p09:34
lemonsplser09:34
anacrondelire: it is some raltek based wlan drivers, so it load lot's of stuff09:34
anacronrealtek*09:34
ArktisXD09:35
lemonsplsso there is no difference? but why the hell are there two directories then?09:35
KyralAnyone have any luck with Enlightened GNOME?09:35
asfra!wlan09:35
ubotuasfra: I don't know, could you explain it?09:35
anacronwhere can i get enlightened gnome?09:35
piksiJDahl: ok, thanks...09:35
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FacoI cant hear anything in an ubuntu hoary09:35
Arktislemonspls, hang on a sec09:36
lemonsplsArktis: cool, thx09:36
crimsunFaco: cat /proc/asound/modules09:36
brk3can anyone tell me what the evil with ndiswrapper is..?09:36
glickhas anyone used the motorola cross compilation tools on ubuntu? do they work well?09:37
Syco54645anyone know of a good ad blacklist?09:37
Facocrimsum: doesnt exist the directory09:37
Syco54645i want to set my router up to block ads09:37
delireanacron: is it a PCMCIA adapater?09:38
Facothat was the answer09:38
crimsunFaco: lspci -v |grep udio09:38
anacrondelire: it's a d-link dwl-510 card09:38
brk3what do people think of this laptop? http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=1149009:38
brk3wrong url :p http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=EC356UA%23ABA&que-id=x&BV_EngineID=cchfaddfghddidlcfngcfkmdfondfgf.0&BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%400933526361.1123442385%40%40%40%40&jumpid=re_r2122_advisors/adi/hpsh|notebook09:38
Faconothing I guess, im gonna try something09:38
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lemonsplsArktis: hm, thats not the problem i know my architecture. i just wonder why there seem to be two directories with the latest releases having 2 different names....09:38
asfraIs there any way to test that java has been correctly installed? I've tried the ' java -version ' and that looks ok..09:38
brk3sorry09:38
delireanacron: oh ok, well just make sure the pcmcia modules are in /etc/modules09:38
brk3asfra: try running a java program? :p09:38
anacronSyco54645: take peerguardians blocklist?09:38
Arktisi'd ignore it and just follow the links from the main page.09:39
alrightaHow do I install Flash support to my firefox? "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla" doesn't work for me- it does not find the package09:39
Arktisit doesn't matter.09:39
Syco54645anacron, does peer guardian block ads?09:39
lemonsplsArktis: ok, so what the difference to the /hoary directory? it has 5.04 also09:39
asfrabrk3: lol, this is what I'm doing and it hangs when installing..09:39
anacronSyco54645: it blocks everything :D09:39
lemonsplsArktis: hm, ok strange09:39
Arktisjust use the main page links.09:39
Arktishttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/09:39
brk3alrighta: click on a flash item in firefox and it will ask you do you want to install the plugin09:39
Syco54645anacron, i would rather not use it as most sites that i use on a regular are blocked with it09:39
lemonsplsthx09:39
brk3asfra: maybe its just the app09:40
juanejanybody with a hp cd-writer 9100 series burning ok?09:40
HappyFoolalrighta: you probably need to add network repositories; see this link (ubotu, below):09:40
HappyFool!repositories09:40
uboturumour has it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:40
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brk3whats the problem with ndiswrapper..? anyone?09:40
EasterSunshinepostfix is the service that when i send mail to myself, puts it into /var/mail/username ?09:40
asfrabrk3: yeah, I'll try to kill the process and start it again..09:40
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brk3asfra: if the java- -version works its probably intalled ok09:40
pfpEasterSunshine: yes09:40
alrightaHappyFool, I've added the repositories.09:40
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HappyFoolalrighta: are you on amd64 by any chance?09:41
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alrightanope.09:41
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NoHopehi all09:41
HappyFoolalrighta: did you add the 'multiverse' repository?09:41
anacronhmm i'll let the wlan be, and go to sleep, good night everyone09:41
NoHopehey, how to search a package using apt-get?09:41
crimsunFaco: what type of sound card is it?09:41
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crimsunNoHope: apt-cache search foo09:42
crimsunNoHope: or aptitude search foo09:42
HappyFoolalrighta: that's where flashplayer-mozilla is. Finally, if you're using apt-get (not synaptic) run 'apt-get update'09:42
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NoHopecrimsun, uhmm... that's the error, I thought apt-get. thx.09:42
krypswhere can i find docs on troubleshooting an installation halt, booting from live cd?09:42
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alrightaHappyFool, I've already upgraded my system09:43
CentaurWhy would the package manager not find the newest version of gaim?09:43
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HappyFoolalrighta: 'apt-get update' is different from 'apt-get upgrade'09:43
thrice`Centaur, because it's not in there09:44
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thrice`unless you're using backports09:44
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HappyFoolalrighta: 'apt-get update' just updates what packages apt knows about09:44
Madeyeguys i'm trying to install some extensions for mozilla browser but getting error permission denied couldn't install to your profile folder09:44
kaohello all09:44
alrightaHappyFool, alright - I'm doing it.09:44
Madeyewhere is the profile folder so i can chmod it09:44
Centaurthrice`: well when you reload the package manager isn't it suppossed to find the newest versions?09:44
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HappyFoolalrighta: anyway, flashplayer-mozilla is in hoary multiverse; what error do you get when you try to install it? (don't paste more than 2 lines here; paste onto a pastebin)09:45
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kaoanybody use scilab here09:45
alrightaHappyFool, as I've already mentioned, it simply does not find the package09:45
stuhi09:45
brk3HappyFool: dont bother with that shite, just get the linux tarball from the macromedia website09:45
stuhow would you specify in iptables -s if you want to allow all ip's starting with 81.xxx.yyy.zzz?09:45
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brk3it works the best09:45
thrice`Centaur, no; keep in mind that you are running the stable version of ubuntu, not development09:45
Snippyhow can I run .sh files?09:45
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Snippy!sh09:45
ubotuWish i knew, Snippy09:45
Facocrimsum, my computer crashed when I tried something, I really have no idea because is my brothers computer but if you want I can send you an screenshot of the device manager09:46
Centaurthrice`: So ubuntu doesn't update the non-stable versions of programs?09:46
HappyFoolSnippy: try 'sh filename'09:46
brk3Snippy: ./file.sh09:46
HappyFoolSnippy: where filename is the file in question09:46
thrice`Centaur, no; it only updates packages if there are security flaws09:46
krypswhen i boot ubunto 5.04 live cd (i386 machine, celeron 400), it starts loading a bunch of stuff (black screen), but pauses after "    uhci-hcd: loaded successfully"09:46
kao2Snippy: try ./blah-blah-blah.sh09:47
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Snippythanks09:47
Centaurthrice`: Okay, so I guess I should just manually update the newest version?09:47
Facocrimsun: I have just installed ubuntu here09:47
SnippyI get a permission denied09:48
HappyFooltry 'sh filename'09:48
crimsunFaco: what type of sound card is it?09:48
Snippythanks worked09:48
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syndhow do you unblock someone in gaim?09:48
kao2kryps: afaik, it's troubles with usb, so load livecd with no-usb option09:49
kao2Shippy: chmod +x09:49
Facoas I explained you I have no idea, I dont know, but if you want I can send you an screenshot of the device manager09:49
alrightaHappyFool, still, it doesn't find the package(flashplayer-mozilla)09:49
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BiSK-8hello09:49
krypskao: so, i go into the bios of my pc, and find the option to turn off usb?09:49
crimsunFaco: paste the output from lspci -v onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:49
HappyFoolalrighta: did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add repositories?09:50
BiSK-8what is the program that replaces itunes on ubuntu?09:50
nophixrhythmbox or amarok09:50
syndhow do you unblock someone in gaim?09:50
Facook ill try09:50
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BiSK-8can i get em through apt-get?09:50
HappyFoolalrighta: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ ?09:50
nophixyes09:50
BiSK-8and which is better?09:50
kaoBiSK-8, maybe rhymbox09:51
nophixamarok imho :)09:51
alrightaHappyFool, I did that thru Synapatic.09:51
BiSK-8ok09:51
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BiSK-8thanks09:51
herssonholas09:51
HappyFoolalrighta: are you sure you added 'multiverse' ?09:51
HappyFoolalrighta: multiverse is not the same thing as universe09:51
Facosorry crimsun but what is paste.ubuntulinux.nl?09:51
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crimsunFaco: it's a web site we use for debugging09:52
syndFaco: a URL to paste things09:52
synd:P09:52
herssonholas alguien de bolivia09:52
Facook and where do I find it?09:52
syndhersson: #ubuntu-es09:52
alrightaHappyFool, I've added everything there. I've installed tons of apps and so far this has been the only problem.09:52
HappyFoolalrighta: ok, can you please put /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin anyway?09:53
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HappyFoolalrighta: you should be able to read that file with gedit09:53
krypswhat linux distro did anyone use before using ubuntu?09:53
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EasterSunshinemandrakelinux le 2005, it was much worse09:54
brk3who cares09:54
brk3mandrake :p09:54
arbirHello....09:54
EasterSunshinemandrake was my first distro, kubuntu my second09:54
Facocrimsun: I doing it know, a second09:54
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transgre1swhat's up peoples?!09:54
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arbirhow can I rip my DVD's to Xvid ? is there a software for that ?09:55
transgre1sarbir: dvd::rip and transcoder09:55
ompaultransgre1s, lots of ubuntu boxes :)09:55
arbiri did see http://www.thoggen.net/   <---  this chap uses theora09:55
Facocrimsun:  done09:55
transgre1sompaul: hehehe09:55
transgre1sairport wifi09:55
transgre1soh yeah09:55
alrightaHappyFool, now that I checked both with edit and Synaptic - I see I actually don't have multiuniverse.09:55
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arbirtransgrels is there a website that you can tell me which can guide me?09:56
krypscan i install linux on a amd 1.3ghz with 256mb ram, etc. ?09:56
alrightaHappyFool, lol..09:56
EasterSunshineyou mean multiverse?09:56
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krypsmultiverse?09:56
alrightaHappyFool - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/102709:56
alrightayup09:57
HappyFoolalrighta: ok, add multiverse with synaptic, and try again09:57
EasterSunshinekryps: probably09:57
HappyFoolalrighta: you don't need 'apt-get update' if you're using synaptic -- it will handle that automatically09:57
EasterSunshinebut it depends on your processor architecture09:57
HappyFoolalrighta: after you add multiverse, it should download package info, and the package you want will be available09:57
EasterSunshineif its intel pentium 1,2,3, or 4, it should work09:57
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transgre1shey does anyone know if an mac (as in not the windows version) ipod will work with gtkpod?09:58
transgre1serr a mac09:58
crimsunFaco: url?09:58
krypsEasterSunshine, someone said for me to load with no usb option.. did he mean goto bios, and find an option to turn off usb, so i can pass this usb stage where my installation (live cd) has halted.. ?09:58
EasterSunshinei am running kubuntu on 450 mhz pentium 3, 128 ram09:58
Facohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/102609:58
cute_bettongjoin ##apple09:58
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transgre1sEasterSunshine: how's it run?09:58
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deliretransgre1s: yes09:58
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transgre1scute_bettong: are you saying that to me/09:58
Facocrimsun: sorry Im kind of new in this09:58
Syco54645transgre1s, there is a windows ipod?09:58
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cute_bettongyes09:58
transgre1sSyco54645: yeah two different filesystems09:58
transgre1sSyco54645: because windows doesn't support HFS09:58
Syco54645transgre1s, ah i see... i never knew that09:59
arbirtransgre1s: can i make it an MKV format ?09:59
EasterSunshinetransgre1s: good enough for me. window resizes are like the only thing that annoys me cause the contents take a while to move09:59
arbirtransgre1s: also i need to have enternal subtitles.. will this support all this ?09:59
psuranihow can i get kde ?09:59
EasterSunshinekryps: i'm not a linux guru so i can't really help you there, sry09:59
psuranihow can i get kde ? for ubuntu ?09:59
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transgre1sarbir: iuno... i don't use it... i pirate movies that are already encoded... much easier.09:59
Syco54645psurani, ept-get install kde09:59
transgre1spsurani: aptitude install kde09:59
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psuraniept or apt ?09:59
transgre1sSyco54645: you beat me10:00
carrerohi10:00
EasterSunshinesudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, isn't it?10:00
arbiryou mean already ripped and set to Xvid by somebody ? @ transgre1s10:00
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thoreauputicactually for kde, do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:00
WeirdAlI'm trying to install libgtkmm-2.4, and I'm on some wild goose chase of dependencies.10:00
Syco54645transgre1s, that is pretty bad considering i have never ran ubuntu or debian till 2 days ago... and i am on the live cd because i have no harddrive10:00
Syco54645lol10:00
delirepsurani: or apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for an 'ubuntuised' KDE10:00
WeirdAlEverything I try to install depends on something else which is available but "is not going to be installed".10:00
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: right :)10:00
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transgre1sSyco54645: you have no hard drive?10:00
WeirdAlBut it won't tell me why it's not going to be installed.10:00
psuranidelire, how much size it is ?10:01
psuranii have 40kbps connection10:01
WeirdAlWhy will it not install dependencies and how do I force it to.10:01
thoreauputicWeirdAl: your problem is your sources list10:01
delirepsurani: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop. maybe there's information as to total size there (i doubt it)10:01
Syco54645transgre1s, well i have 2 120 gig dump drives that are full of smashing pumpkins concerts, so i dare not format one of those.  i just need to get some money so that i can get a new main drive10:01
thoreauputicWeirdAl: see below10:01
thoreauputic!repos10:01
ubotu[repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be fount at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:01
psuraniok thnx !10:02
transgre1sSyco54645: haha yeah my boss just gave me a lot of spare drives for work... i gotta put them in my box10:02
transgre1smy current is getting full of mp3s from a russian mp3 site10:02
Syco54645transgre1s, feel free to mail me one10:02
EasterSunshinei have 8 gigs total in my entire house. beat that10:02
psuraniPackage: kubuntu-desktop10:02
psuraniPriority: optional10:02
psuraniSection: misc10:02
psuraniInstalled-Size: 3210:02
psuraniMaintainer: Andreas Mueller <amu@ubuntu.com>10:02
psuraniArchitecture: i38610:02
aruheh10:02
transgre1sEasterSunshine: almost 9 gigs total of mp3s... eh10:02
psuraniis it 32mb ??10:03
transgre1soh getting kubuntu-desktop is probably a bad idea10:03
transgre1sfrom ubuntu10:03
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HappyFoolpsurani: installing kubuntu-desktop will require a large download10:03
transgre1sit worked badly for me10:03
Janewayhi there10:03
transgre1sbest to go from kubuntu to ubuntu10:03
thoreauputicpsurani: it's just a metapackage10:03
psurani32 mb isnt that large !10:03
EasterSunshinei meant 8 gigs of hdd space10:03
HappyFoolpsurani: probably more than 100MB10:03
Syco54645i dont like kde, i feel that it is way too bloated10:03
psuranioh damn10:03
delirepsurani: around 40mb i thought10:03
Syco54645i used it for over 3 years10:03
transgre1si like kde, but i feel it looks too big10:03
thoreauputicpsurani: the dependencies make it over 100mb10:03
transgre1si like small things10:03
psuraniPackage: kubuntu-desktop10:03
psuraniPriority: optional10:03
psuraniSection: misc10:03
psuraniInstalled-Size: 3210:03
psuraniMaintainer: Andreas Mueller <amu@ubuntu.com>10:03
psuraniArchitecture: i38610:03
Syco54645now i switched to gnome about 6 months ago10:03
Syco54645after running rox10:03
HappyFoolpsurani: please don't paste here10:03
psuranithis one isnt enough ?? happyfool ?10:03
transgre1sstop that psurani10:04
Janewaydo you mind an absolute newbie asking an install question?10:04
EasterSunshinekde feels comprehensive and complete10:04
psuraniok sorry10:04
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psuraniyes kde is better10:04
thoreauputicpsurani: please read the /topic and stop spamming the channel10:04
arukde feels like windows10:04
HappyFoolpsurani: as thoreauputic said, it's a meta-package. It only exists to depend on other packages10:04
transgre1snot to me10:04
Syco54645Janeway, nope, not at all10:04
transgre1sof course i set it to have the bar at the top like mac10:04
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psuranii see10:04
transgre1swhich makes me happy10:04
WeirdAlthoreauputic: same problem, even with that sources.list10:04
transgre1sand i'd give money to have gnome do it10:04
WeirdAllibgtkmm-2.4-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-dev but it is not going to be installed10:04
HappyFoolpsurani: try 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' -- aptitude will tell you how much it's going to download10:04
arutransgre1s: to do what?10:05
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puslingis it easy to change a minimal sarge install to ubuntu warty ?10:05
transgre1spsurani: i wouldn't try grabbing kubuntu-desktop10:05
EasterSunshinekde is a good heavyweight wm, icewm is for those of you that prefer lightweight simple ones10:05
transgre1sit worked badly for me10:05
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WeirdAllibgtk2.0-dev depends another, which depends two others, and I'm getting annoyed searching for them all.10:05
transgre1saru: have the menu bar from windows at the top of the screen ala mac UI10:05
JanewayI've gottten so far as to the point "set up users and passwords" - after enabling "shadow" I'm asked to enter a root-pw - however I've read so much about not setting one - how shall I continue? Leave it blank?10:05
thoreauputicWeirdAl: if you are getting those errors, either you have an incomplete list, are using 3rd party repos or haven't run an update/reload10:05
HappyFoolpsurani: i get 142MB to download when I try that10:05
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psuraniahh10:05
psuranitoo much10:05
HappyFoolJaneway: are you doing an expert or server install?10:05
Syco54645Janeway, i would suggest setting one for security, but that is just me10:05
EasterSunshinepsurani: you can get kubuntu cds for free10:06
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transgre1syeah in like 8 weeks heh10:06
EasterSunshineoh wait...no you can't10:06
Janewayexpert mode, since I want to keep my win for the time being (as I said, newbie)10:06
psuranifrom where ??10:06
EasterSunshineor can you? is it available with shipit yet?10:06
transgre1soh yeah that's right... they said no kubuntu cd's10:06
transgre1snope10:06
thoreauputicJaneway: you should only be asked for a root password if you do the "expert" install10:06
psuraniahh10:06
HappyFoolJaneway: i may be wrong, but i think the normal install will let you keep other installed operating systems10:06
transgre1sanyway... ima bolt10:06
Janewayyou think so?10:06
EasterSunshinemaybe download kubuntu at school or work or something10:06
WeirdAlthor: did update and dist-upgrade and same error.10:06
psuranihey, whoever is talking to me, i see message in red, hows that ?10:07
equexHappyFool: ubuntu will keep the other oses, i tried10:07
transgre1sjust thought i'd get on and say how i was at the airport soon to go to the beach10:07
psuranirrr10:07
WeirdAlUsing the sources.list in paste.ubuntu10:07
transgre1sbuh bye now10:07
equexit will even auto create menys for your kernels10:07
JanewayI thought it would erase the entire harddrive and kill my previous partitions10:07
equexgrub rocks10:07
EasterSunshinepsurani: cause we include your name in the msg10:07
thoreauputicJaneway: if you are new, don't use "expert" - and Ubuntu will set up dual boot with windows10:07
psuraniahh i see10:07
HappyFoolequex: ok, thanks for the confirmation10:07
chiisai_I'm thinking about switching to the *-smp kernel, as I have a Pentium 4 HT processor. I've heard that this makes stuff run smoother if you're multitasking, but I also heard that some things runs slower. Does somebody know anything about this? A before and after comparison or something?10:07
psuraniEasterSunshine, , can u see it in red ?10:07
EasterSunshineyes10:07
psuranicool chat !10:07
JanewayI see - so what do I do now - cancel the installation and start from scratch?10:07
ompaulpusling, it failed for me but http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge ymmv10:07
EasterSunshine...10:08
equexHappyFool: the other way is probably different :D10:08
crimsunFaco: sec10:08
HappyFoolJaneway: that's what i'd do10:08
psuraniare u people always here in ubuntu chat room to other people ? will i always get help from here ?10:08
ompaulpusling, then I did it wrong :)10:08
Facook10:08
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AndieBHi all!10:08
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thoreauputicJaneway: I would if I were you - else you will have problems10:08
Facocrimsun: ok10:08
EasterSunshinepsurani: i came in here asking for help, and i soon found myself helping others or at least trying to10:08
HappyFoolpsurani: usually; it obviously depends if we know the answer10:08
ompaulpsurani, lots of people are here lots of the time10:08
Janewayok, thanks a million :)10:08
delirepsurani: this is a good place to come for human to human help10:08
psuraniwow, cool10:08
thoreauputicpsurani: there are people here 24/710:08
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psuranidelire, ,yeah ofcourse, maybe i someday be able to help someone here !10:09
AndieBQuestion: How do I add a program in the Toolbar, that is not available in the Program menu? I've installed jEdit, but must everytime choose Run a program...10:09
crashdAndieB: right click, locate the program10:09
sedathi all10:09
crashdright click > add10:09
crashdsorry10:09
delirepsurani: that's the idea ;)10:09
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psuranidelire, , yeah !10:09
crimsunFaco: ok, you have an ISA sound card. I can't guess which one because there are quite a few. Please search Google and find what sound chipset your motherboard has.10:09
equexthis channel is so huge it should really be split up into sections like #ubuntu-gnome, #ubuntu-ATI etc :)10:09
thoreauputicJaneway: just make sure you don't allow the installer to wipe your disc - you will be asked what you want10:09
psuraniok bbl !10:10
cute_betton1that really really sucked10:10
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HappyFool#ubuntu-desktop-and-other-religious-wars10:10
cute_betton1stupid breaker10:10
equexhehe10:10
delirepsurani: ciao!10:10
thoreauputicequex: both #gentoo and #debian are much bigger10:10
psuranibye delire10:10
EasterSunshineequex: agreed. as someone once said "it looks like tetris level 50 in here"10:10
equexhehehe EasterSunshine10:10
Janewayok - I'll make sure of that10:10
cute_betton1run 2 computers and the microwave the sterio and an air conditioner and poof >.<10:10
HappyFool#python enforced a numerical split, sort of. not sure if they still do10:10
AndieBcrashd: Hmmm...10:10
equex#debian may be larger, but it is quieter10:10
equexi dont wander into #gentoo10:11
delire#debian has far more lurkers. this channel often looks busier even though it's 2/3 the size of #debian.10:11
EasterSunshinewell then agian, if we split the channels, they will all be full of idlers, like #kubuntu10:11
thoreauputicequex: you obviously haven't spent much time in #debian ;)10:11
AndieBcrashd: Well, I don't get an opportunity to choose what program I want to add...10:11
Slipaway172how do i register a irc room to my nick?10:11
EasterSunshinei use kubuntu, but its too idle, so i came here10:11
delirei think this channel works well10:11
Facocrimsun: just a question what do I have to write in google to find that information? I don't know sorry10:11
delirevery well in fact.10:11
Slipaway172yes10:11
equexthore: its not level 50, its level 40 :)10:12
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BiSK-8'lo10:12
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alrightaHappyFool, sorry for the long wait. I had to handle something - well, I don't find any multiverse in my Synaptic, only universe.10:12
BiSK-8how do i install the pdf plugin 4 firefox?10:12
thoreauputicequex: if you measure by need for flame-proof underwear, on the other hand... *g*10:12
HappyFoolalrighta: hmm10:12
puslingompaul: I just changed my sources.list - and until now - the only package needed special treatment was perl-base10:12
HappyFoolalrighta: how do you add repositories?10:12
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equexheh10:13
HappyFoolalrighta: Settings -> Repositories -> Add ?10:13
HappyFoolalrighta: are you running ubuntu 5.04 (i.e., "the hoary hedgehog")10:13
crimsunFaco: you need to search for your computer and locate the sound card used10:13
ompaulpusling, great10:13
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puslingompaul: but it is a quite minimal system10:13
BiSK-8how do i install the pdf plugin 4 firefox?10:13
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equexthore: for some reason xchat will not autocomplete you name :/10:13
thoreauputicBiSK-8: no need to repeat10:13
El_Presidentehi there :)10:14
puslingompaul: only what debootstrap gives me10:14
ompaulpusling, that is small :)10:14
BiSK-8sry10:14
puslingompaul: yeah - but that is almost what I need (and ssh, apache2, phpmyadmin, mysql and what they depend on ;)10:14
alrightaHappyFool, no.. until now I only used the "Show disabled software sources" option and then I checked what wasn't unchecked. I thought it contained both universe and multiverse10:14
EasterSunshinehey does ubuntu outperform other distros running only as a server, like without x, or kde, or gnome, or anything?10:14
HappyFoolalrighta: ok, uncheck that box10:15
Facocrimsun: ok I got it, I'll do it now10:15
ompaulpusling, I would have build a ubuntu server and gone native from the off, unless you have 'funny' hardware10:15
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EasterSunshinejust apache and vssftpd and friends, for example?10:15
puslingompaul: linux vserver10:15
ompaulahhhh ha10:15
PegaHmm. About this Ubuntu's basic text editor... How do I make it so, that it won't make a new line every time the text raches right side of the window? I want it to continue to wirte as long lines as I want.10:15
BiSK-8thoreauputic: u tell me not 2 reapeat but i dont get answers10:15
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puslingompaul: they are easily build  with debootstrap10:15
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: it's on a par - obviously it is almost the same as debian so...10:15
ompaulpusling, limits one alright10:15
HappyFoolalrighta: then, go back to the 'Repositories' screen, and click 'Add'10:15
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thoreauputicBiSK-8: that's par for the course - have a bit of patience10:16
HappyFoolalrighta: you should see a new window which will let you add multiverse10:16
sedatI have some easy question to ask10:16
sedatwho can help me10:16
thoreauputicBiSK-8: if someone knows, they will help you10:16
puslingompaul: yeah - and I just need an environment with mysql 4.0.20 ;)10:16
EasterSunshinejust ask sedat10:16
sedatokey10:16
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sedatcan I change the files in ntfs from ubuntu10:16
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flodineanyone load ion310:17
Fizileanyone use a playstation emulator here?10:17
Xyc1I am trying to compile a simple gwifi applet and I get this error: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install, even though gnome-libs-data is installed.  Any hints?10:17
delireflodine: i did for a while10:17
puslingsedat: if you don't change file size - and only edit existing files, it might work10:17
EasterSunshinesedat: i read that there is a high chance you will damage the filesystem10:17
AndieBhmmm....10:17
alrightaHappyFool, okay, done that. I could use the apt-get answell, right?10:17
thoreauputicBiSK-8: I once got an answer in #fluxbox after waiting over an hour - here it's usually quicker ;)10:17
flodinedelire what you running now10:17
HappyFoolalrighta: after you've added multiverse, yes10:17
sedatactually10:17
EasterSunshinesedat: the current ntfs driver only assures safety in reading, not writing10:17
delireflodine: i moved to a better implementation of the No-WIMP concept. http://wmi.modprobe.de10:17
BiSK-8:D10:17
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sedatcan I create a dr in ntfs10:17
delireflodine: they also have better t-shirts10:17
sedatdirectory10:18
HappyFoolalrighta: you cannot change repositories with apt-get; at that level (the command-line) you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file10:18
Tomcat__sedat: Not safely.10:18
thoreauputicBiSK-8: probably a lot of people don't use a pdf plugin (I don't, for one)10:18
FacoCrimsun: Model:Crystal Semiconductor      Chip set:CS423610:18
sedatokey10:18
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flodinedelire you on that now10:18
thoreauputicBiSK-8: any reason for not simply opening a pdf in say, xpdf ?10:18
AndieBWhat must I do, when I've installed Java2 SDK and try to start the JavaControlPanel via the Program Menu, and I get the following error message: "Failed to run childprocess "/usr/bin/JavaPluginControlPanel" (the file or catalogue does not exist).10:19
BiSK-8caz it's a web page10:19
Facocrimsun: is that the information you need?10:19
delireflodine: yes, i love it.10:19
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AndieBWhat do I type at the "prompt" in a Terminal window so search for a file through the hole File System...10:19
thoreauputicBiSK-8: a pdf is a pdf - what do you mean?10:19
flodinedelire does it have debian menu in it10:19
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delireflodine: i work alot in the terminal. i am most productive with this environment.10:19
alrightaHappyFool, I've checked all of the sources. right?10:19
HappyFoolalrighta: that should work10:20
jyankHello, could anyone try to help me with an issue i'm having with gnome?10:20
flodineyeababy10:20
HappyFoolalrighta: note that there's a little drop-down box at the top of that window10:20
HappyFoolalrighta: it lets you choose 'updates', 'security-updates' and 'ubuntu'10:20
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delireflodine: no, it has a CTRL-ALT-P menu that appears 'inside' the panel. you can scroll or text complete on any application in your path.10:20
HappyFoolalrighta: you may wish to enable all of those10:20
SeveasAndieB, slocate10:20
HappyFoolalrighta: anyway, it ought to work now10:20
Howdy125bisk-8 in firefox click tools then extentions .. then click get more extentions and do a search for pdf ..10:20
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flodinedelire whats the command to install10:21
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jkinzMENICK10:21
transgre1sokay i'm back10:21
HappyFoolalrighta: go back to the repositories window -- you should see that the list it shows is updated. Click OK and new package info should be added10:21
delireflodine: without ranting, it's better than any application menu i've used in any other desktop environment.10:21
transgre1sgot through security with like my keys in my pocket, my belt, and my big metal ear plugs10:21
sedatis there a shortcut for to go desktop10:21
transgre1sweird10:21
flodinedelire whats the command to install10:21
Seveassedat, the little icon in the bottom left10:21
BiSK-8i got a problem10:21
HappyFoolsedat: maybe Ctl-Alt-d (on normal ubuntu)10:21
delireflodine: well see this page: http://wmi.modprobe.de/index.php/WMII/Download10:21
Xyc1I get configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install when I try to ./configure gwireless applet.  What am I doing wrong?10:21
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Seveassedat, and you can set a keyboard shortcut yourself too :)10:21
HappyFoolas i discovered when I tried to use that in emacs10:22
alrightaHappyFool, yes, but now I've got to do the same with "updates" and "ubuntu". ;)10:22
sedatworking thanks10:22
delireflodine: add that repository to your repo list.10:22
flodinedelire no apt get10:22
HappyFoolalrighta: yes, i recommend you do that10:22
flodineo10:22
delireflodine: what are you using?10:22
HappyFoolalrighta: yeah, unfortunately you have to do them separately10:22
BiSK-8firefox>extentions: error10:22
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SeveasBiSK-8, upgrade to the latest firefox in hoary-security10:22
Fizileany one here use a PSX emulator on ubuntu?10:22
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Octanehow do i force install of a packge w/ dpkg ignoring dependencies??10:22
jyankHello, could anyone try to help me with an issue i'm having with gnome?10:22
HappyFoolsynaptic needs an 'add everything' button10:22
delireflodine: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wmii' once those repositories are in place.10:22
BiSK-8how10:23
BiSK-8?10:23
SeveasOctane, --force-ignore-depends oslt10:23
Octaneits really important :)10:23
Seveasread the dpkg manpage :)10:23
Howdy125Bisk-8 .. you get an error when you click on extentions ??10:23
BiSK-8yep10:23
OctaneSeveas:  thanks i did but couldnt find it10:23
alrightaHappyFool.. there is a problem, I checked them all at first, and now when I look at all of this choices, I don't see even one that has all the sources checked.10:23
HappyFoolalrighta: oh10:23
HappyFoolalrighta: click ok between each10:23
HappyFoolalrighta: you need to add each separately10:23
thoreauputicBiSK-8: what version of firefox? Check help >> about (should be 1.0.6)10:23
Howdy125Bisk-8 .. I can't help with that error .. it should be working .. sorry ..10:24
HappyFoolalrighta: sorry, it's getting late, i'm probably not making much sense. You need to add each of 'ubuntu', 'updates' and 'security-updates' separarately10:24
BiSK-8it's 1.0.610:24
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thoreauputicBiSK-8: should work then - what's the error?10:24
SeveasOctane, dpkg --ignore-depends=package1 --ignore-depends=package2 etc...10:24
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delireBiSK-8: make sure you have permissions to write to ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla/firefox10:25
sedatwhen I connect a usb harddisk to computer I see all partitons. Then I shut one of partition. How can I see it again10:25
SeveasOctane, dpkg --ignore-depends=package1,package2 ,package3 <-- this works better10:25
alrightaHappyFool, but I've done that process before, and I don't see any section with all of the sources marked.10:25
alrightaHappyFool, perhaps, it doesn't update those 3 sections at first?10:25
flodinedelire i get error when i add that to the repos10:25
delireflodine: ok10:25
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BiSK-8if u ppl wanna see the error i'll send u a screen shot10:25
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HappyFoolalrighta: do this. tick all the boxes, and click OK10:25
delireflodine: hah, i do to10:25
BiSK-8who wants it?10:25
HappyFoolalrighta: then, click 'Add' again, choose a different option (say 'security'), tick all the boxes and click OK10:26
delireflodine: must be down. have you compiled software on Linux before?10:26
HappyFoolalrighta: do you understand?10:26
thoreauputicBiSK-8: put the error on a pastebin - see /topic10:26
alrightaHappyFool, ta. I do and I did, from the beginning. :) alright10:26
Facocrimsun: do you need something else?10:26
BiSK-8i cant, wint let me copy10:26
flodinedelire add the debian one right10:26
BiSK-8wont*10:26
sedatis there a tool for partitioning in ubuntu10:26
BiSK-8i'll put it on my site10:26
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thoreauputicsedat: yes10:27
sedatwhich ?10:27
thoreauputicsedat: fdisk, cfdisk10:27
HappyFoolalrighta: i hope it's working. i'm keen to go to sleep ;)10:27
delireflodine: yes, it's down however. you may want it to consider compiling it. grab a snapshot and see how you go.10:27
EasterSunshinesedat: btw, i don't think those are ubuntu specific. if you ever swtich to any other distro, they should still be there10:27
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guardianxu?how do i increase my refresh rate in unbunto10:28
alrightaHappyFool, well, don't wait for me.. atm it's updating the packages10:28
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HappyFoolalrighta: great, so it is working10:28
Janewayis this channel always full of people (just curious)10:28
BiSK-8http://bisk8.altervista.org/immagini/blablabla.png10:28
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HappyFoolok, good night10:28
thoreauputicJaneway: yes10:28
alrightaHappyFool, still there? ;[10:28
thoreauputicJaneway: not always this busy though :)10:28
delireJaneway: but close ;)10:28
guardianxhow do i increase my refresh rate in unbuntu ?10:28
EasterSunshineits cause its sunday in the united states10:28
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alrightaops :/10:28
Seveas534 is quite a high number of people10:29
Janewaythoreauputic: good to hear :) guess I'll need some more help in the next days *s*10:29
thoreauputicguardianx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:29
Seveasusually 480-510 people around10:29
thoreauputicJaneway: that's what we're here for :)10:29
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EasterSunshineout of curiosty, anyone here speak bemba?10:29
DonLno10:30
Janewayphew ... seems to have worked so far10:30
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jharrisonany ideas why sound does not work?10:30
PegaHmm. About this Ubuntu's basic text editor... How do I make it so, that it won't make a new line every time the text raches right side of the window? I want it to continue to wirte as long lines as I want.10:30
jharrisonI get errors about no volume control elements/device exists10:30
jharrisonhowever sound works fine with the ubuntu live cd10:30
thoreauputicPega: the word wrap option - I forget which menu entry it's under but you can change it10:31
delireJaneway: if there was ever a social contract in this channel it's "pass on what you learn".. but it's very unconditional ;)10:31
BiSK-8thoreauputic, delire, Howdy125 --->http://bisk8.altervista.org/immagini/blablabla.png10:31
Janewayand it did ask me about my partitions (just hope I set it correctly - at least it recognized xp)10:31
DonLAnybody seen Apple's new Mighty Mouse, and if so do you know if it will work with Linux?10:31
Pegaty, thoreauputic10:32
thoreauputicJaneway: sounds promising :)10:32
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eazel7hi ppl10:32
delireBiSK-8: does this happen with other extensions?10:32
Janewaydelire: glad to hear that10:32
guardianxi have a compaq sr1010z with build in vid card. how do i install the driver for it ?? the low refresh rate is killing my eye10:32
Janewaythoreauputic: well, I won't count my chickens before they've hatched ... *ggg*10:33
BiSK-8delire: yes10:33
thoreauputicJaneway: you should be fine as long as you didn't let it take over the whole disc10:33
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Janewaythoreauputic: the whole disc?10:34
delireDonL: i don't understand that mouse, but perhaps someone else does long enough to write a driver. Apple aren't very good with hardware interoperability.10:34
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thoreauputicJaneway: you have one hard disc or more?10:34
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jharrisonive modprobed the sound driver snd_emu10k1 which as far as I know is for the audigy 2 get there seems to be no sound devices10:34
jharrisonalso the user is in the audio group10:34
DonLdelire, I see. Looks cool though10:34
delireDonL: i doubt they will release the driver source code for that mouse in a hurry.10:34
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DonLApparently works with XP10:34
delireDonL: hmm10:34
Janewaythoreauputic: I've got the package of two discs - one install, one live - I used the install one10:35
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|angasul|is it possible to use a 2.6.4 kernel or older? newer kernels don't seem to get along with a saitek x45 joystick10:35
Janewaythoreauputic: and tried to follow instructions for a change *g*10:35
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thoreauputicJaneway: ah, misunderstanding: I meant your *computer's* hard disk10:35
BiSK-8delire: yes10:35
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User666http://www.damochka.org/download-video.php?videos=4282310:35
User666http://www.damochka.org/download-video.php?videos=4282310:35
BiSK-8even with other extentions10:35
guardianxi have a compaq sr1010z with build in vid card. how do i install the driver for it ?? the low refresh rate is killing my eye.. i think the build in card is made by sis10:35
thoreauputicJaneway: if you followed instructions you should be fine10:36
Janewaythoreauputic: oops ... no, definitely not10:36
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Xyc0ah much better10:36
Xyc0stupid ghosts10:36
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delireBiSK-8: i don't know what the problem is there. i would consider backup ~/.firefox (cp -r ~/.firefox ~/yourbackups/firefox) and 'apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox'10:37
thoreauputic|angasul|: ubuntu kernels are patched for ubuntu, so using a non ubuntu ernel isn't likely to work well10:37
n8lewisis there a way to have both kde and the gnome installed and switch between em10:37
thoreauputic*kernel10:37
Fizilethe evil gnome :o10:37
crispynix-v6n8lewis: yes; apt-get install the-other-desktop10:37
thoreauputicn8lewis: yes - I do that10:37
Janewaythoreauputic: guess my English is getting a bit weak this time of the day *sigh*10:37
Xyc0I am trying to compile gwireless_applet and i get this "configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install" even though gnome-libs-data is installed.  Any one have an Idea for me?10:37
thoreauputicJaneway: seems OK to me :)10:38
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crispynix-v6n8lewis: e.g. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop-settings10:38
n8lewissweet just wanted to know so I won't lose any thing if I mess up10:38
jharrisonso no one knows anything about sound problems?10:38
thoreauputicJaneway: what's your usual language?10:38
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Janewaythoreauputic: German10:39
thoreauputicjharrison: your question was so general as to be unanswerablr10:39
guardianxi have a compaq sr1010z with build in vid card. how do i install the driver for it ?? the low refresh rate is killing my eye.. i think the build in card is made by sis10:39
thoreauputic*unanswerable10:39
delirejharrison: speak to crimsum if you get the chance10:39
BiSK-8ok10:39
tommi^Wow. There's whole lot of attempts to break in with ssh, I'm really amazed. I changed my ssh port to 2222 which hopefully helps for a while but I sometimes do need to use it from 22 port. How to easilly and automatically block obvious break in attemps?10:39
BiSK-8i reinstalled it and it works10:39
delirejharrison: if you have specific questions10:39
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thoreauputicJaneway: well, your english seems pretty good :)10:39
delireBiSK-8: great!10:39
BiSK-8thanks ppl10:39
Janewaythoreauputic: should be, since I'm teaching it *g*10:40
deliretommi^: it is very disturbing. are you running netstat?10:40
Xyc0he he10:40
thoreauputicJaneway: ah, indeed !10:40
jharrisonall I know is when I try to start the volume control it pops up and tells me "no volume control elements and/or devices found."10:40
Howdy125BiSK-8 :-)10:40
jharrisonif that is general well sorry10:40
bimberiXyc0: You need to install libgnome-dev10:40
crimsuntommi^: there are a variety of ways. I recommend at least configuring /etc/hosts.{deny,allow}10:40
deliretommi^: i like to use ngrep in a shell script with sox to build alarms.10:40
deliretommi^: well 'play' from sox10:40
bluefoxicy. . .10:40
bluefoxicyWHAAAAAAAAAAT?!10:40
Facojharrison: I got the same problem10:41
jharrisondebian has no problem with sound and ubuntu live cd does not so why does the install10:41
bluefoxicythere's been no new packages in breezy since 12 hours ago!!!!!?10:41
thoreauputicJaneway: I can assure you there are plenty of people in this channel whose mother tongue is english but who are far less articulate than you ;-)10:41
jharrisonand NO ONE knows how to fix it?10:41
crimsunjharrison: lspci -v |grep udio10:41
tommi^delire, too complicated for me, i guess.10:41
Xyc0bimberi: Thanks, I could have sworn that was installed with build-essentials10:41
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Janewaythoreauputic: oh my - I certainly wasn't fishing for compliments10:41
glickjharrison, whats the problem?10:41
tommi^crimsun, just add offending ip's to hosts.deny?10:41
crimsunjharrison: stop making inane, unfounded comments. Just because we don't speak up immediately implies some of us are actually busy.10:41
JoshRA.3810:42
thoreauputicJaneway: heheh - I know: which makes the compliment more genuine :)10:42
deliretommi^: there are good GUI intrusion detection softwares out there.10:42
jharrisoncrimsun: Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 000810:42
flodinedelire you out there10:42
Janewaythoreauputic: *BG*10:42
delireflodine: sure10:42
tommi^delire, can you name one? The ssh runs on a box without x btw.10:42
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flodinedelire says i need libc6 2.3.2.dsl-2110:43
deliretommi^: i'd check out snort10:43
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Facocrimsun: I sent you some information, did you read it?10:43
crimsunjharrison: you need a newer alsa-driver.10:43
delireflodine: 'dpkg -l | grep libc'10:43
tommi^delire, right.10:43
crimsunFaco: you did?10:43
crimsun!tell jharrison about alsa-source10:43
Facoyes10:43
jharrisoncrimsun: so compile a new kernel then?10:43
Facocrimsun: a second10:44
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crimsunjharrison: read the instructions I just had sent to you.10:44
jharrisoncrimsun: ok give me a minute im reading...10:44
deliretommi^: if it's a public mission-critical machine on an external IP then intrusion detection is a must.10:44
Facocrimsun: Model Crystal Semiconductor       Chip set CS423610:44
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Janewayguess I'll call it a day once everything is unpacked and generated10:44
flodinedelire what do i do with that10:44
tommi^delire, does snort have a gui? It's just my home server.10:44
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crimsunFaco: sudo modprobe snd_cs423610:45
delireflodine: i'd like to know what version of libc6 you're running, mostly the name as i gues it's 2.3.210:45
flodinedelire i have the old libc10:45
Facocrimsun: ok10:45
deliretommi^: many use the snort module with webmin10:45
flodinedelire i have the old libc 2010:46
delireflodine: hah ok10:46
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crimsunflodine: you should not be messing with -21, which presumably is from an external repo (debian-marillat?).10:46
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crimsun(the dependency being from a package in an ext repo)10:46
delireflodine: well then yeah, you'll need to upgrade your whole system libc6 is the most serious upgrade, it will take up a ton of other stuff up with it.10:46
delireflodine: in other words, it's too serious just for a new window manager.10:47
delirecrimsun: he's looking into wmi.modprobe.de, a window manager.10:47
oggahanyone tried EDE (window manager)10:47
oggahis it good?10:47
flodinedelire what did you do10:47
delireflodine: i compiled it.10:47
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gpd !winex10:48
crimsundelire: Then walk him through grabbing the deb-src and compiling it on his own machine.10:48
ubotugpd: I give up, what is it?10:48
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_silvertearoggah: depends. a good windows managr is in the eye of the beholder. ttry it out yourself to dcide if its good10:48
delirecrimsun: it was a suggestion i made earlier that wasn't taken with interest.10:48
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Facocrimsun: it didn't work10:48
delirecrimsun: i offered.10:48
Quest-Master!cedega10:48
ubotuhmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega10:48
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Quest-Mastergpd: ^10:48
crimsunFaco: is pnp enabled on your system in the bios?10:48
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cute_bettongO_o oh o_o10:49
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gpdQuest-Master: ya, was looking at that but wondered about winex10:49
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Quest-Masterah10:49
cyberixIs there xmodmap anywhere in Breezy?10:49
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LeeonHi. I am trying to get my graphics card acceleration (conserning an ati radeon 9800 pro -card) working. I have followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25723 (and also the linked guide to ATI-cards). Everything seems to have gone fine, but my fglrxinfo prints "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org". Does anyone have any tips?10:49
cyberixOr is there some other tool to manipulate keymap?10:49
Brammefirefox is acting weird lately :s10:49
Brammelink don't work10:49
Brammeetc10:50
delireflodine: as i say, compiling this software is relatively painless10:50
Brammeversion 1.0.610:50
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flodinedelire is wmi 10-1 diffrent then wmii10:50
Facocrimsun: I'm gonna see, do I have to reboot right? there is no other way?10:50
sunoggah, EDE looks too much like windoze for my taste :(10:50
delireflodine: yes, that is an old but stable release10:50
crimsunFaco: correct10:50
oggahsun, ok. but is it lightweight?10:50
crimsunFaco: try this first: sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 isapnp=010:50
oggahsmaller, faster, snappier than fluxbox? =)10:50
thoreauputicoggah: highly unlikely10:51
thoreauputicoggah: since flux is one of the lihtest WMs around10:51
thoreauputic*lightest10:51
oggahyep.10:52
oggahok.10:52
sunoggah, i recommend WMI: http://wmi.modprobe.de10:52
deliresun: :) isn't it fantastic10:52
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topylitwm is pretty light :)10:52
sundelire, yep i love it ;)10:52
oggahwmi. cool =)10:52
Facocrimsun: no nothing yet, no sound but at least the volume manager is working now10:53
deliresun: i was with openbox for a couple of years, but this is a whole new productivity upgrade.10:53
thoreauputictopyli: heh - twm is light indeed - hope you like the dirty green decor ;)10:53
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crimsunFaco: did the modprobe command just give you a prompt back?10:53
delirethoreauputic: quite the salesman there thoreauputic ;)10:53
Quest-MasterEDE looks like shit, IMO :(10:53
efriedmanthe ubuntu live cd doesn't recognize my network card; could someone help me?10:53
linuksothe only "wm" for true lightness is screen :)10:53
topylithoreauputic: i like gnome a bit more :)10:53
thoreauputicdelire: I'm a bit of a fluxbox bigot ;-)10:54
Facocrimsun: no prompt back10:54
delirelinukso: point taken10:54
oggahwhats the name of next generation window server for linux?10:54
sundelire, indeed. i was using WMI until WMII 2 was released. i love the grid layout10:54
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tommi^delire, snort webmin gui isn't what I'd expect from a gui. Seems more like just direct frontend to configuration files.10:54
delirethoreauputic: with some validity to. fluxbox is one of the good ones.10:54
thoreauputicdelire: indeed10:54
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deliretommi^: it is. 'apt-cache search intrusion detection' there maybe something else to your taste10:55
linuksowmi is hard to use with multiwindow apps like gimp10:55
delirelinukso: wmii-2 isn't10:55
topyliE!10:55
Facocrimsun: so do I check the pnp thing on the bios now?10:55
tommi^delire, such complex system like ids does of course need some reading of documentation. I'll look for something else. thanks10:55
delirelinukso: i do alot of work in gimp on wmii-2, although i do think it needs an 'always on top' method.10:55
linuksodelire: not? Has anthing changed recently? I tried it a while ago?10:55
deliretommi^: sure, it is a big topic.10:56
paccerbecause of problems with samba (config problem) i removed samba with apt-get remove --purge samba, then i deleted /etc/samba because i thought apt-get install samba would get it back.. but if i do a apt-get install samba, samba wont run because /etc/samba is missing10:56
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paccerhow come apt-get samba doesnt create /etc/samba?10:56
delirelinukso: wmii-2 is around a month old IIRC10:56
thoreauputicpaccer: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba10:56
_silvertearhow long until a disconnected nick gets killed?10:56
delirepaccer: i agree, that is silly. reconfigure10:56
pacceri tried reconfiguring - doesnt work10:57
guardianxah fuck this..... i'm going back to the dark side. i cant take linux no moreeeeeeeeeee10:57
paccerthen i get this:10:57
linuksodelire: gotta try it :)10:57
thoreauputicpaccer: it probably sees your deletion as editing, and respects your judgment ;)10:57
DVSoftwareguardianx, why god damnit?10:57
delireguardianx: ok, all the best in your travels10:57
guardianxi'm sorry my to all of my linux camper but i'm returning to the  dark side10:57
paccerthenostradamus: /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: line 149: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory10:57
bimberipaccer: there are other samba related packages - such as smbclient10:57
paccerwhen i do a dpkg-reconfigure10:57
thoreauputicguardianx: you said that a few hours ago - cold feet?10:57
thoreauputic*g*10:57
guardianxbut i'm proud to say i'm a linux user for 2 days and 3 hrs10:57
delirethoreauputic: ;)10:57
paccerbimberi: tried reinstalling them too - without luck10:57
linuksodelire: do you use cairo support, or did you compile it with xlib?10:58
gpd /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a <-- winecvs is complaining about this?10:58
DVSoftwareguardianx, why are you going back?10:58
guardianxnah i tried to stay with linux but there is jus too much shit10:58
DVSoftwarehm...10:58
DVSoftwarei don't think so10:58
delirelinukso: xlib.. though i'm considering recompiling w/cairo. it does look interesting.10:58
guardianxi couldnt get the dam tv-out to work right10:58
DVSoftwarewindows has too much shit10:58
DVSoftwareunwanted shit10:58
crimsunFaco: it depends on your bios.10:58
linuksodelire: had problems building it with cairo a while ago, but I guess things are moving forward.10:59
DVSoftwarelike malware, spyware, and other *ware10:59
topylimaking audio cds from oggs takes forever10:59
crimsunFaco: usually it's in the bios options.10:59
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bimberipaccer: k - just checked on packages.ubuntu.com and smbclient doesn't put anything there anyway10:59
delirelinukso: strangely popular for such a relatively challenging window management paradigm10:59
Facocrimsun: so I will do it now, I have to enable the pnp, right?10:59
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guardianxtheoreaputic-  i tried to stay with linux but the stupid tv-out thing got to me...... i'm returning my entertainment system to the windows. the family is complaning10:59
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glickwhy didnt ubuntu join the debian common core alliance?10:59
delirelinukso: everyone that tries is does have to learn a very different approach to working with these weird things called 'windows'.11:00
crimsunbimberi: hmm? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=smbclient&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i38611:00
DVSoftwareguardianx, i can't see where is the problem with setting up tv out11:00
thoreauputicguardianx: *shrug*11:00
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Seveasglick, you will much more likely get an answer to that if you ask on the ubuntu-devel mailing list11:00
delireglick: i read something about this on planet.ubuntulinux.org11:00
paccerbimberi: i have really run out of ideas to get my samba to install right again11:00
linuksodelire: hehe, indeed. Its a different experience than other wm's....11:00
guardianxdvsoftware well i installed the nvida driver the nvtv.  and when i switch to tv out..... the picture is too big it doesnt fit the tv11:01
topyliglick: they are careful? there is no "alliance" as far as i know11:01
delirepaccer: i would consider manually creating that /etc/samba first11:01
DVSoftwarehm, i think it's just resolution11:01
guardianxand i have no idea how to fix it. i spend hrs on google and asking for help .......11:01
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DVSoftwareyou need to set another resolution for tv11:01
delirepaccer: then a dpkg-reconfigure11:01
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bimbericrimsun: eh? - nothing in /etc/samba there11:01
thoreauputicpaccer: did you try sudo mkdir /etc/samba or whatever ?11:01
_silvertearset the resolution down to 640 by 48011:01
paccerthenostradamus: trying now11:01
guardianxi picked the smalled resolution  and it is still too big11:01
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guardianxlike when i play a movie i see only their face11:01
moriyahI'm trying to create a new user11:02
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glickhas ubuntu surpassed debian in popularity?11:02
DVSoftwareguardianx, it's linux spirit11:02
EasterSunshineaccording to distrowatch, yes11:02
thoreauputicglick: I doubt that11:02
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DVSoftwarejust try harder11:02
deliremoriyah: adduser newUserName11:02
DVSoftwareand you will succeed11:02
DVSoftware:D11:02
topyliglick: not likely11:02
EasterSunshinehis familiy is complaining11:02
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moriyahOK, I'll try this11:02
guardianxi jus cant do it no more the linux spirit is dying. i'm returning my power to the microshart camp11:02
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: distrowatch is an *extremely* skewed sample11:02
DVSoftwaredamnit11:02
ChurcH_of_Foamywww.illwillpress.com/cartoons11:03
delireguardianx: make sure you send me a postcard!11:03
guardianxmaybe a few more yrs when linux fix their problem i will return11:03
DVSoftwareguardianx, how can i convince you to stay with us :D11:03
puslinghmm... what do I need to do to make phpmyadmin work ? The requested URL /cgi-bin/php4/phpmyadmin/index.php was not found on this server.11:03
neighborleeim trying to view a site that uses .MOV ..I get video but no audio..could someone please try this for me and make sure its not just me please:: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/episode/68454.html11:03
thoreauputicguardianx: write and send cookies !11:03
topyliguardianx: that's the spirit!11:03
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guardianxdvsoftware - i will return when unbunto become better but i have to admin ubunto is one of the best flava i used in linux11:04
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paccerthoreauputic, delire: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=45980 - that is what i get if i make /etc/samba first11:04
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EasterSunshineubuntu IS the best linux distro i have used11:04
DVSoftwareguardianx, ubuntu is already the best distro11:04
neighborleeguardianx, what is it not doing for you if I may ask ?11:04
EasterSunshineubuntu changed the way i look at life11:04
atomic0xdoes anybody use the mad wifi drivers on breezy?11:04
|rockinnerd|guardianx, waht's the problem11:04
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guardianxit is the best distro so far but  it doesnt do what i want it to do11:04
bimberipaccer: ah ha! - samba-common installs into /etc/samba11:05
neighborleeDVSoftware, not so sure..but its dain close11:05
EasterSunshinethe tv-out stream is too big for his tv11:05
DVSoftwareok... didn't tried gentoo... oh.. well11:05
bimberipaccer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=samba&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i38611:05
guardianxbasically i want my unbunto to become my entertainment center. and allow me to watch movies on tv........11:05
Seveasguardianx, too bad. I hope you have wore luck the next time you try it :)11:05
neighborleeguardianx, what do you need maybe we can help bring it into reality11:05
flodinedelire you there11:05
paccerbimberi: tried reinstalling samba-common too :/11:05
delirepaccer: it is all very obscure hehe "creating lame upcase table" i think the bimberi link is good for you.11:05
neighborleeguardianx, it can do that now11:05
ompauljdub, question, UbuntuWorldWideHuge.jpg any way to get greater zoom on that, all because I can't zoom in to get to names11:05
neighborleeguardianx, long as you have tv card11:05
Seveasguardianx, Ubuntu can doo that, but it is a hassle sometimes indeed11:05
TreeFrogHi can anyone help with some sound config problems. ?11:06
flodinedelire i got the old one up11:06
guardianxneighbor- it doesnt work with an nivda card..... i have already tried to install the nvida driver and the nvtv11:06
neighborleeyeah what Seveas said..I dont have  tv card and I dont know how tricky it is or n ot to setup11:06
jdubompaul: not atm, but i'm working with a friend to do a google maps based version11:06
delireflodine: ahah ok. it's not as good as the current, but you get the idea.11:06
moriyahwhat's a room number when adding a user?11:06
guardianxi'm not looking to make my unbunto a pvr box. jus to view some movies i d/l on the tv .....11:06
neighborleeguardianx, ah ic so your nvidia card has tv out..I wish mine did ;-))heh11:07
paccerHA! - i think apt-get install samba-common --reinstall might have done the trick11:07
thoreauputicpaccer: try  sudo touch /etc/samba/smb.conf  and see where ls -l /etc/rc2.d/K09samba  says your dangling symlink is pointing11:07
delirepaccer: great11:07
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neighborleeguardianx, ic11:07
ompaulJdub, thanks :)11:07
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thoreauputicpaccer: ah, you have it solved then?11:07
flodinedelire is there a place to change the theme11:07
guardianxi spend the whole night trying to get it to display on tv right and it doesnt work. i have exhusted google and the ubuntu forum...... i give up11:07
guardianxlinux is too much problem for a simple person like me11:08
paccerthoreauputic: not sure yet - will tell you as soon as i know11:08
delireflodine. gedit ~/.wmi/theme.conf11:08
puslinghmm.. shouldn't apt-get install phpmyadmin set everything up to work ?11:08
Seveasguardianx, in Ubuntus defense: Nvidia drivers are closed source so Ubuntu developers can't do anything about that11:08
BiSK-8u ppl know any good java development software for debian based operating systems11:08
thoreauputicguardianx: perhaps you expected too much of yourself too soon...11:08
BiSK-8(ubuntu)11:08
Seveasthoreauputic, this should work out of the box :)11:09
guardianxseveas - i understand i'm not saying linux is bad it is not doing what i want so i'm force to return to the dark side.......11:09
EasterSunshinei assume you konw about netbeans, BiSK-8?11:09
Seveasguardianx, good luck there, hope to se you back soon :)11:09
flodinedelire it doesnt have any extra themes i can change right now11:09
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BiSK-8yes11:09
topylii need a bigger hard disk so i can store all my music in flac in the future11:10
moriyahdelire: I tried adduser, what is a room number?11:10
EasterSunshineok, thats the only java developement environment i know about ,sry11:10
delireguardianx: Seveas makes an important point here. if you have frustration about Nvidia features on Linux, please send Nvidia an email requesting the feature and/or fixing the bug. also consider asking them to open their driver source so Linux developers can use their hardware more readily.11:10
pcharkyHello there.11:10
thoreauputicmoriyah: those questions can be ignored :)11:10
deliremoriyah: that is really just for organisations11:10
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thoreauputicmoriyah: the questions about room numbers etc are for institutional installs11:11
moriyahThanks11:11
delireflodine: hehe no, you write the theme yourself. i have one you can use. http://selectparks.net/julian/wmi11:11
pcharkyGot a little problem playing mp3's, I installed all nessecary packages (mad, lame, etc.) the player starts, but there's no sound... (no problem with ogg though).11:11
EasterSunshineyou guys are distracting me...i should be doin work...lol11:11
ompaulguardianx, or tens of thousands after you will face the same problems, the other option is to find a card that does what you want and works with Ubuntu11:11
guardianxand my other problem is i jus cant view the shared files on the pc network from the unbunto box.....11:11
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thoreauputicEasterSunshine: welcome to the addictive world of IRC ;)11:11
delireflodine: though again, i may not be able to help much as i now run wmii-2.0, which has a different theme rc structure.11:11
DVSoftware!info kxdocker11:11
EasterSunshinei've been on it for over a year, but i love this channel more than any other!!11:11
DVSoftware:(11:11
DVSoftwareit's not in universe11:12
DVSoftware:(11:12
flodinedelire i like this one how do i update my files11:12
ortoxUBUNTU IS ME!11:12
EasterSunshineDVSoftware: i like how you embellished your msg with sad faces11:12
guardianxmy windows can see the files/folder on the ubunto box without problem but i cant view the files on the windows from the unbuntu box........ my workgroup name is goku11:12
hadi57i need to share a folder on the network, i added a file but it is asking clients for a username and password, I tryed admin and root password but nothing worked11:12
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delireflodine: take the theme.conf and copy it over your ~/.wmi/theme.conf11:12
Janewaythoreauputic: well, seems that everything has worked ok so far, no root-pw asked, none entered, everything how it should be at first glance11:13
thoreauputicDVSoftware: I don't think there's a package by that name11:13
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delireflodine: take also 'grill.png' and make sure it's in the same place as mentioned in the theme.conf11:13
thoreauputicJaneway: sounds good :)11:13
epjoin /#c++11:13
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Janewaythoreauputic: I'll worry about the rest tomorrow (and will most certainly be back here for the one odd stupid question)11:13
delireJaneway: congratulations11:13
paccerokay - my samba seems to work now.. guess all i had to do was apt-get install samba-common --reinstall11:13
EasterSunshineep: but the slash before the j11:13
DVSoftwarei can't beleive11:13
guardianxwell i have messed with linux a lot and i was hoping to use one for the pc but that was only a dream.......11:13
ompaulep would that be /join #c++ ?11:13
epnever min11:13
atomic0xcan anybody help me get mad wifi working on breezy?11:13
DVSoftwarewhy kxdocker is not in universe11:13
BiSK-8how do i install a .bin file?11:13
guardianxi touched on linux when i hacked my tivo. and use the linksys firware hack11:13
ep:)11:13
paccerthanks for the help - i might return for more samba help.. been struggeling with it for some time11:13
thoreauputicJaneway: see you soon then! Enjoy Ubuntu ...11:14
topylicould a newer serpentine perhaps blank a cdrw for me?11:14
delireguardianx: so close, yet so far..11:14
guardianxthis is like the 8 times i tried linux11:14
guardianxand it is the 8 times or so the force pulled me back11:14
epthats the way my coding is going today too11:14
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guardianx*cries *11:14
thoreauputicDVSoftware: it might go under another name - try apt-cache search <some keywords>11:14
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EasterSunshineguardianx watches a lot of star wars. huh?11:15
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Janewayhm11:15
delireguardianx: the Dark Side of the Source is Strong in You11:15
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Raptoidselamlar.11:15
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thoreauputicguardianx: Do or not do - there is no try!!11:15
ompaulif you wanted to print the same document to two printers what would you do?11:15
guardianxi guess the only linux box running in my home is my tivo and the linksys router11:15
delireyes GNU/Linux is "tryless"!11:15
ompaulfrom the command line11:15
thoreauputicguardianx: a Jedi these things does not allow to stop him!11:16
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transgre1syay for delayed flights11:16
delirehehe11:16
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transgre1sall i can think now is this... should've eaten before hand... but as it goes... the food will just taste that much better when i get there11:17
EasterSunshinetrnasfre1s: where you flyin to11:17
EasterSunshinei need to move one of my hands over a key when i type...11:18
guardianxthoreaputic, i'm  simpliscity of winblows.....11:18
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guardianxand is there an ass kicking news reader for linux like newsleecher?11:18
guardianxi tried pan but i didnt like it :(11:18
thoreauputicguardianx: nothing simple about windblows: it is baroque in it's complex stupidity11:18
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thoreauputicgah11:19
thoreauputic*apostrophe11:19
thoreauputic:)11:19
hadi57can any one help me setup a shared folder on the network, i tryed but is it asking for a user name and password and not accepting root or admin password11:19
guardianxthoreauputic, in it complex stupidity it was about to get the tv-out on the nvidia card to work on the 1st try. it is hard to complain to that11:19
ttyS0hello there. Is there any people who use dialup? If so how do I use callback? I've read a lot of manuals, tried to use some scripts but.... :) (pppd has cbcp support)11:20
thoreauputicguardianx: swings and roundabouts11:20
KyralAnyone know what package I need to use the "dch" command?11:20
EasterSunshinethoreauputic sounds like he really knows his english grammar11:20
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: I should - my major was english ;)11:21
EasterSunshinei just learned a crapload of annoying grammar to get a good score on the sat11:21
paccerokay - samba isnt quite working yet.. its sending me a hella'ova lot mails - http://pastebin.arslinux.com/222011:21
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delireguardianx: are you using the proprietary Nvidia drivers?11:21
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guardianxdelire: yes i install the propertary nvida driver11:22
delirethoreauputic: that very apostrophe haunts me day and night.11:22
dull4o4Hey, how do i disable quick change user in kde? (ie remove the button when screen is locked)11:22
LasseLhadi57, you need to look up the smbpasswd command11:22
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: grammar is like coding - some people have an ear for the vernacular, some don't ;-)11:22
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LasseLhadi57, you assign different passwords for samba, it doesn't hook up with the system ones11:22
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delireguardianx: i would definitely consider writing to Nvidia, who make the software you are currently using with complaints and/or questions. also consider looking through the Nvidia Linux Driver documentation on their website. if the lack documents you need, tell them.11:23
hadi57ah i see11:23
guardianxdelire - but i dont know how to enable the tv-out so i  installed nvtv. with nvtv i was able to switch to tv-out but the pictures is too big for the tv. and i could never make the movie fit on the tv.11:23
dull4o4any ideas?11:23
paccerdelire, thenostradamus: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/222011:23
delireguardianx: i would like to help but have no experience with their software.11:23
guardianxit is ok. i'm perpare for this situation i have already perpare a HD  with windows xp  ready to go11:24
crashdis there a decent rapid development environment for linux?11:24
thoreauputicguardianx: apt-cache show xawtv ? I don't know, might be relevant or helpful...11:24
delireguardianx: ok great11:24
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thoreauputiccrashd: define "decent"11:24
crashdwell11:24
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crashdusable, and useful11:25
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crashdit doesnt have to be vs11:25
delirecrashd: you mean IDE? people rave about KDevelop, i like this but prefer <cough>vim</cough>11:25
crashdbut it has to be halfway deecent11:25
crashdsigh11:25
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crashdi dont _want_ a text editor11:25
crashdi want a full environment11:25
yodalynux no sound on runescape11:25
guardianxand my other problem is i love newsleecher on the windows. but i couldnt find any news reader in linux that have the same simpliscity and feel to newsleecher11:25
crashdvim is all well and good11:25
Facocrimsun: I didn't find any pnp in the BIOS11:25
delirecrashd: http://www.kdevelop.org/11:25
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crashd:] 11:25
thoreauputiccrashd: Kdevelop, Anjuta I guess is an altrnative11:25
thoreauputic*alternative11:25
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crashdthanks guys :] 11:26
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yodaI'm playing an internet game that uses the jre but I can't get sound in the game.11:26
guardianxif i was about to go out and buy a new vid card with tv out. which one should i buy so it can play nicely with linux?11:26
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guardianxati?11:26
gpdanyone got iTunes to install under cvscedega?11:27
gpdI keep getting error installing windows installer engine 160311:27
thoreauputicguardianx: BTW if you expect Linux apps to be "just like my windows home" you will be eternally disappointed...11:27
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transgre2syay for shitty wifi connections11:27
guardianxIS there any other good news reader program for linux ?? basically i jus want the bin11:27
delireguardianx: many many thousands of people use tvout on their graphics cards. i do often. i'd hang out with http://google.com/linux or, as i say, write to the software vendors.11:27
guardianxthoreauputic : i'm already disapointed :(11:28
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yodaanyone know about sound in java applet?11:28
guardianxdelire what card do u use?11:28
thoreauputicguardianx: apt-cache search news reader11:28
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delireguardianx: i use ati's mostly but prefer nvidia. on the ati cards i use tvout.11:28
yodaI can't get sound in the game I want to play online11:28
guardianxthoreauputic - i already tried pan. it was chunky11:28
gpdcvscedega/bin/wine: binary overlaps reserved area grr...11:29
thoreauputicguardianx: we could hardly have missed the fact that you are disappointed, short of terminal deafness11:29
delirehehe11:29
Facocrimsun: also now that I reboot I realized that if I don't wirte sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 the volume manager doesn't work11:29
guardianxdelire - how did u make the tv out work ?11:29
delirethoreauputic: what did you say?11:29
thoreauputicguardianx: I think you aren't quite ready for linux, frankly11:29
crimsunFaco: can you hear anything from the speakers/headphones?11:29
yodadelire -- can you help me with a sound problem?11:30
sorush20guys can someone help me solve a hotplug problem11:30
hadi57Lassel, where to issue the password for samba?11:30
guardianxdelire - how did u enable tv-out?11:30
ompaul!supported hardware11:30
ubotuompaul: I give up, what is it?11:30
delireguardianx: whenever you shift operating systems you need to lay out some time to make that move. i, for instance, really struggled learning OSX, as i have to use it at work sometimes, but after some weeks managed to become proficient at using it even though it's very unlike Ubuntu.11:30
guardianxthoreaputic: ur right i'm not ready for linux.11:30
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Facojust the beep sound and also when I wirte sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 sounds as if it will work but nothing11:31
delireyoda: crimsun knows several times more than i about the current state of sound systems in ubuntu. he may be overworked right now however.11:31
guardianxdelire : i use mac os x at work too. it is not that hard11:31
delireguardianx: i find it very hard as i'm comfortable with linux, having used it for years.11:31
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calamarihi11:32
Pegahi11:32
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yodacrimsun -- I'm trying to play runescape. I have sound generally, but not when I play this game11:32
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GOGILOLikhttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42830http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4283011:32
GOGILOLik11:32
GOGILOLikhttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4283011:32
GOGILOLikhttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4283011:32
GOGILOLikhttp://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=4283011:32
crimsunyoda: does it require direct OSS access? If you're using esd, have you tried esddsp $game ?11:32
delireguardianx: the 'finder' for instance still seems totally bizarre. you get the idea.. going to internet sites to download and install software etc. things i'm not used to.11:32
flodineanyone have fbpager  that can help11:33
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yodaIt required the java run time pluggin11:33
guardianxi'm jus going to let my linksys router do the linux from now on.11:33
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delireguardianx: great idea, Linux makes an excellent router11:33
calamarisometimes for seemingly no reason (just sitting on the desktop) my hdd drive light will come on solid and the system will slow down almost to a stop, sometimes it'll freeze.  Is there a way to find out what is using my drive so much?  I opened the System Monitor and I hadn't run out of memory.11:33
delirecalamari: perhaps 'top'?11:34
guardianxdelire: the linksys routher rock with the hacked firmware. i can run ssh on the linksys router11:34
calamari(and the cpu usage was about 22%)11:34
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MrThouGreetings11:34
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delirecalamari: it may be 'find' updating the locatedb?11:34
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calamarihi MrThou11:34
gpdmeh... picass2 fails with cvscedega: user32.FlashWindowEx11:34
calamaridelire: oic.. is there a way to disable that?11:34
Facocrimsun: I cannot hear anything, just the beep11:34
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delirecalamari: i'm suspecting it's a cronjob. first find out what it is with 'top'11:35
guardianxwell thank you guys. thank for ur times. but guardianx is going to have his OS reset by windows...... it was good while it lasted.11:35
calamaridelire: searches seem to take forever anyways, so I'm not sure it's helping me :)11:35
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sorush20could some one help me with this hotplug error... its my printer.. and here is the log for when I insert the USB cable into the computer... can someone tell if its right or worng..11:35
delireguardianx: all the best in your travels.11:35
heyyis it possble to mount power pc file systems?11:35
yodacrimsun: the game required the java runtime pluggin for the firefox browser11:35
delirecalamari: this is all about to change in Linux ;)11:35
heyyno help at ubuntuguide.org11:35
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delireheyy: HFS?11:36
thoreauputicguardianx, I suspect , took lessons on premature retirement from Dame Nellie Melba11:36
calamaridelire: why's that? :)11:36
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EasterSunshinelol are we still wishing guardianx good luck with reverting to windows?11:36
ubuntuhi11:36
heyydelire: i presume so im finding out for a freind with panther os11:36
eruinreverting to windows?11:36
eruinpoor soul ;)11:36
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: just wait for the big comeback - sometime tomorrow: stay tuned!11:36
ompaulis there a tool to break out the info in the hardware database ?11:37
ompaulor even just read it on a web page?11:37
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delirecalamari: a couple of projects, notably inotify, offers a live reporting system for the kernel to detect changes to the file system and pass that message on to user space applications. create a file, run find, and it's there.11:37
thoreauputicheyy: yes - you can mount hfsplus in linux11:37
gpdanyone willing to help me with cvscedega... basics... after install11:38
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DolphIs anyone here running Ubuntu on the ancient IBook G3 366mhz mac??11:38
delires/that/those11:38
Dolph(Clamshell one=)11:38
ttyS0:) noone callback script works for me :) does anybody have any ?11:38
delireheyy: yes, that's HFS11:38
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starknighthi all11:39
pcharkyCan anybody help me out, my music just died on me..11:39
MrThouWhile trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?11:39
starknighthow to start TUX RACER?11:39
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EasterSunshineto what degree will having five apache2 processes slow down my comp, if i never get client connections on it, ever?11:39
EasterSunshineits a 450 mhz with 256 rams11:40
Facocrimsun: what else could I do?11:40
delireheyy: that is supported. eg 'mount -t hfs /dev/TheHFSPartition /MountPoint'11:40
thoreauputicstarknight: probably by typing tuxracer in a terminal; not sure of that though11:40
starknightwhat is the command to start tux racer?11:40
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DekaPinkstarknight: tuxracer11:40
delirehmm a bit tricky that one ;)11:41
starknightthx11:41
omegargh.11:41
calamaridelire: crontab -l says I have no crontabs (ran it for both root and my user just to see).. hmm.. should set some up hehehe, maybe I can use it and remember some people's birthdays for a change or somethin11:41
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omegSo many programs that I download just DON'T RUN. I wonder what the problem is.11:41
calamariomeg: download, or install with synaptic?11:41
omegRight now I'm furiously clicking Joequake, a linux frontend for playing Quake, and it just doesn't do anything.11:41
omegDownload, calamari.11:41
yodacrimsun: do you have time now to help me?11:41
delirecalamari: designing cronjobs is a great 'rainy day' project.11:41
omegBut some synaptic programs don't run, either.11:41
omegLike FCE Ultra, which I got from Synaptic, just doesn't work.11:42
calamariomeg: if you type "file Joequake" what does it say (I'm curious)11:42
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gpdsomething is very wrong here, I can't even run notepad.exe from my ntfs partition11:42
crimsunyoda: sec11:42
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omegfile joequake?11:42
pcharkyany alsa gurus in the room?11:42
calamariyeah11:42
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yodacrimson:: does that mean you have a second, or that I should wait a second?11:43
delirepcharky: crimsun, if he's not overworked.11:43
pcharkydelire: Thanks, delire got a moment to spare?11:43
calamaridelire: I'd like to try running that locate rebuilding thing to see if you've identified the problem.  Any idea how that gets started (Hoary) ?11:43
pcharkydelire: sorry, crimsun got a moment to spare?11:43
delirepcharky: ahh, i meant crimsun11:43
delirepcharky: ask him11:44
pcharkydelire: got that, typo sorry.11:44
delirecalamari: 'updatedb'11:44
omegjoequake.x11: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped11:44
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tucozHi, I try to mount my windows partition and have created a dir under /mnt/windows and added the entry to /etc/fstab. However, I cannot enter the mounted partition as user, only as root. How do I solve this?11:44
thoreauputiccalamari: sudo updatedb  ?11:44
crimsunyoda: it means wait a sec, because I have to take care of my pets11:44
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calamarioh yeah.. that sure seems like it.. wheeeeeeeeeee11:44
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delirecalamari: sorry, 'sudo' first as thoreauputic suggests11:45
delirecalamari: hehe that *was* it ;)11:45
Chaotic_Realityi installed kubuntu-desktop from apt last night - when i rebooted it prompted me for my username and password to login with a kubuntu login, but then took me into gnome...is there something i have to do to boot into kubuntu?11:45
gigaclontucoz, add sudo before the mount command11:45
omegWhat is wrong with this thing11:45
thoreauputicdelire: a necessity rather than a suggestion ;)11:45
delirecalamari: 'ps ax | grep find' you'll see it there.11:45
gigaclonand when asked for password enter yours11:45
delirethoreauputic: correct ;)11:45
ChurcH_of_Foamyis there a way to get into Ubuntu after having lost my password?11:46
gigaclonChaotic_Reality, click session11:46
tucozgigaclon, the partition is mounted. The problem is I cannot cd /mnt/windows as I get a permission denied11:46
calamaridelire: yeah, ran top and it right up there, as you said11:46
ChurcH_of_Foamya freind forgot his password11:46
thoreauputicChaotic_Reality: choose KDE from the sessions11:46
heyydelire: cool how about what ever network shares that mac has?11:46
heyydo i just use samba?11:46
delireheyy: i don't know about that..11:46
heyyin the same way as with windows shares11:46
omegaha.11:46
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omeg./joequake-gl.glx: error while loading shared libraries: libfmod-3.73.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:46
thoreauputicChurcH_of_Foamy: boot in recovery mode and set a new password for the user11:46
omegnow... how do I get that file easiest?11:47
delireheyy: yes, just use samba11:47
ChurcH_of_Foamyok is there a how to for the commands?11:47
crimsunyoda: / pcharky: yes?11:47
omeg(by the way thank you for giving no visual feedback until I tried running the program in terminal)11:47
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CodyIs there anyway to add a new menu after Applications on the top panel?11:47
gigaclontucoz, make sure to have uid=1000, gid=1000 in your /etc/fstab11:47
thoreauputicChurcH_of_Foamy:  password <username>11:47
tucozevent if I type: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows, I get a permission denied when trying to cd /mnt/windows11:47
ompaulChurcH_of_Foamy, to do that - interrupt the boot by pressing escape key while it is counting down, then passwd user11:47
heyyheyy: wow does mac os use the same share system as m windows?11:47
tucozgigaclon, oh ok.11:47
thoreauputicChurcH_of_Foamy: sorry  passwd <username>11:47
delirethoreauputic: passwd <username> ?11:47
pcharkycrimsun: I got a problem with alsa, everything seems quite okay.. apart from the fact that it doesn't play any sound.11:47
MrThouWhile trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?11:48
thoreauputicdelire: yeah11:48
ChurcH_of_Foamykk11:48
MartenHanyone got experience with "motion"?11:48
delirethoreauputic: i've always thought they should change that. it get's me every time, and it's been _years_.11:48
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paccerthoreauputic: im still having samba problems :( -take a look at http://pastebin.arslinux.com/222011:48
yodacrimsun: runescape required the java runtime plugin in firefox11:48
pcharkycrimsun: I heard you're the alsa guru so.. can you help me?11:48
tucozgigaclon, in the <options> column?11:48
crimsunpcharky: cat /proc/asound/modules11:48
gigaclonyea11:48
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ompaul:)11:48
tucozok, thanks11:48
pcharkycrimsun: snd_emu10k111:49
pcharkycrimsun: sb audigy2.11:49
CodyIs there anyway to add a new menu after Applications on the top panel?11:49
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delireCody: sorry, i don't use Gnome here. i would imagine so.11:49
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ompaul!tell cody about smeg11:49
tucozgigaclon, do you think ro,user,uid=1000,gid=1000 is ok?11:49
crimsunyoda: ok, I'm not sure how that's affected by OSS...11:50
crimsunyoda: are you using esd?11:50
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gigaclonand auto11:50
Codyyeah, but smeg doesn't allow editing/adding new menus on the actual top panel11:50
Codyjust on the applications menu11:50
tucozok, thanks alot11:50
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yodacrimsun: what is esd?11:50
gigaclon!esd11:50
ubotuhmm... esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.11:50
_SWAT_pcharky, what's your problem?11:50
crimsunpcharky: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on11:50
Codyalso, is there anyway to have nautilus open folders instead of the other minimalist file browser11:50
pcharkycrimsun: I can modify volumes with alsamixer, store and restore with alsactl.11:50
pcharky_SWAT_: no sound.11:50
Facocrimsun: what else can I do? please a little help11:50
thoreauputicpaccer: sorry, I can't really help - clearly you've managed to break samba in some weird and wonderful way11:50
_SWAT_pcharky, did you compile your own ALSA drivers?11:50
delireotherwise known as the "Not So Enlightened Sound Daemon"11:50
ompaulCody, ahh sorry, misunderstood your question, right click on the panel and use the add fucntion11:50
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pcharky_SWAT_: nope.11:51
Codyk11:51
crimsunpcharky: type the above command into a Terminal.11:51
_SWAT_pcharky, you NEED to do that11:51
paccerthoreauputic: i have breaking skills :/11:51
CodyAdd to panel?11:51
crimsun_SWAT_: not necessarily.11:51
ompaulCody, if I understand you yes11:51
_SWAT_crimsun, that was the solution for me though (Audigy 2 here)11:51
pcharkycrimsun: you rock.. thanks ;-)11:51
crimsunFaco: did you see a PnP option in bios?11:51
paccerthoreauputic: have 200 mails from samba now.. its spamming me with that error :/11:51
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_SWAT_crimsun, pcharky ---> Check it out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=audigy11:52
vladuz976anybody here using e17?11:52
Codyompaul: nothing there about a menu11:52
pcharky_SWAT_: Thanks, I was about to ask if you could explain the problem for future reference.11:52
thoreauputicpaccer: You could try (as a last resort before sacrificing a goat at the full moon) running  sudo apt-get -f install11:52
gpdholy crap picassa2 runs under cedega...11:52
tucozgigaclon, thanks for the help. Works perfectly :)11:53
crimsun_SWAT_: yes, I know about that thread, but it's misleading.11:53
ray_xfce!11:53
Facocrimsun: I entered to BIOS but I couldn't find any PnP11:53
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tucozbye11:53
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crimsun_SWAT_: not all Audigy 2 models are listed by id in the emu10k1 header, hence the default ALSA version (1.0.6) in Hoary doesn't work. However, MOST Audigy 2s ARE.11:53
_SWAT_crimsun, why? I had NO sound by default (the problem weren't the settings). I compiled ALSA and everything went away and I had perfect sound :)11:53
yodaanyone: how do I get ess running or know if it's running?11:54
crimsunyoda: pgrep esd11:54
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calamari_re's11:54
calamari_well, updatedb was nice enough to let me know it was causing the freezes as well :/11:54
delirecalamari_: hehe11:55
calamari_looks like it is just a call to slocate -u11:55
delirecalamari_: ouch11:55
delirecalamari_: that's it11:55
pcharky_SWAT_: I had sound, until I installed lame and mad libraries. Maybe something happened in pre/post install scripts?11:55
calamari_so it looks like I need to disable this thing from running11:55
calamari_anyone know where it is run from?11:55
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yodacrimsun: OK, esd is running, any other ideas?11:56
delirecalamari_ do you have DMA on those disks?11:56
_SWAT_pcharky, I wouldn't know. But it would be stupid if that would be the problem...11:56
paccerdamnit samba, WORK!11:56
calamari_delire: good question.. I hope so11:56
crimsunyoda: I mentioned about 20 minutes ago that you could try: esddsp $game11:56
pcharky_SWAT_: It sure would..11:56
crimsunyoda: (substitute $game for the executable name)11:56
Codyalso, is there anyway to have nautilus open folders instead of the other minimalist file browser11:56
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delirepaccer: it's come to that, a shame. make sure you have the armpit hair of an elderly female giraffe in your left fist as you shout "ThaqBulaqaIpNgad!"11:57
yodacrimsun: the game is on the internet, how do I do that?11:57
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Codyas in the one with full address bar and such11:57
paccerdelire: ofcourse.. did that :)11:57
Tarcastilhey, if I install java separately, how do I tell apt I have it installed?11:57
delirepaccer: then return to your keyboard and enjoy a fully working samba installation.11:57
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pcharky_SWAT_: Do you know if there are any pre-compiled bmp plugin packages are available?11:57
thoreauputicdelire: most impressive incantation - I must remember it in case of need ;)11:57
paccerdelire: okay - hold on11:57
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MrThouWhile trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?11:58
delirethoreauputic: not to be done before a good night's rest.11:58
Tarcastilis there a dpkg command that says "hey, this package is on the computer"?11:58
thoreauputicdelire: of course we add the obligatory disclaimer "Kids, don't try this at home!"11:58
pcharkyTarcastil: dpkg --get-selections11:58
delireTarcastil: dpkg -l | package11:58
crimsunyoda: ok, then you'll have to temporarily suspend esd. Try unchecking the System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup11:58
crimsunyoda: then try your Java applet again11:59
delireTarcastil: pcharky's is better. i read your question too fast ;)11:59
=== DekaPink pets Ubuntu.
thoreauputicTarcastil: dpkg -l | grep package and look for ii11:59
DekaPinkIt's come to the point now where my windows partition pretty much makes me uncomfortable. xD11:59
Codyis there anyway to get the file browser to use full nautilus style when you click on a folder?11:59
paccerSaved 1 message in /home/paccer/mbox11:59
paccerHeld 212 messages in /var/mail/paccer11:59
paccer:P11:59

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