[12:00] <Epod69> anyone know why nvidia would just stop working?
[12:00] <LinuxJones> Snippy, ok run gstreamer-properties and try selecting alsa from the dropdown list for output device then hit test to see if you get sound.
[12:00] <Epod69> modprobe nvidia doesnt work either
[12:01] <LinuxJones> Epod69, did you upgrade a kernel ?
[12:01] <Snippy> failed to construct pipeline error
[12:01] <BTJustice> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/19463
[12:01] <LinuxJones> Epod69, what was selected before ?
[12:01] <Epod69> yea, but i believe i was using the same kernel I am now
[12:01] <Epod69> should i remove hte old kernel and reinstall nvidia?
[12:01] <Epod69> the*
[12:01] <Snippy> maybe cuz the guy b4 told me to unselect "enable sound server"
[12:01] <nickrud> BTJustice, you have no sound :)
[12:01] <LinuxJones> snippy sorry ^^ was for you.
[12:02] <Epod69> snippy, sound server doesnt matter when using alsa
[12:02] <BTJustice> nickrud: I figured.  What do I need ot do?
[12:02] <Snippy> np LinuxJones, ALSA was selected before.. I tried esd and all the others.. no luck at all
[12:03] <LinuxJones> Snippy, how many soundcards do you have ?
[12:03] <segfault2k> someone knows how to install enlightenment e17 on ubuntu?
[12:03] <eloy> ubuntu-es
[12:04] <Snippy> LinuxJones, I have 1 onboard soundcard.. but when I installed ubuntu.. hmm.. I had my USB Headset plugged in.. does this matter?
[12:04] <nickrud> BTJustice, snd-emu10k1 should have loaded, if lspci is correct
[12:04] <weejamer> does anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install
[12:04] <LinuxJones> Snippy, nope
[12:04] <Snippy> LinuxJones.. I was hoping so..
[12:05] <SeanRoth> segfalut2k: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=287220#post287220
[12:05] <nickrud> I don't have a clue why hotplug did not see that card and load, that's where I would look for bug reports
[12:05] <SeanRoth> segfault2k*
[12:05] <weejamer> does anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install
[12:05] <Snippy> I always had problems with sound on other distris years b4.. but I never installed linux on THIS rig.. I always was able to fix the sound.. except this time.. so strange
[12:05] <BTJustice> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/19464
[12:05] <Snippy> but I will now try  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=8  hope this helps
[12:06] <Epod69> when I go to install nvidia-glx it wants me to install kernel-image-386 as well..can I not use nvidia with the 686 kernel image?
[12:06] <LinuxJones> Epod69, yeah install the 686 kernel first
[12:06] <weejamer> I have 2 soundcards too snippy 1 onboard and 1 USB it works fine other than my USB speakers don't work
[12:06] <Epod69> LinuxJones, i have the 686 already installed and in use
[12:07] <LinuxJones> Epod69, once you've booted into the kernel you can then install nvidia drivers
[12:07] <weejamer> does anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install
[12:07] <nickrud> I'd try to figure out what the conexant unknown device 8801 was, and disable in bios. (Step one)
[12:07] <LinuxJones> Epod69, are you sure your in the 686 kernel ?
[12:07] <LinuxJones> weejamer, mp3 support isn't included in Ubuntu by default
[12:07] <Epod69> linuxjones, yes
[12:07] <weejamer> can i install the codec
[12:07] <SeanRoth> Yeah.
[12:08] <Burgundavia> !mp3
[12:08] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:08] <Burgundavia> weejamer, ^
[12:08] <Epod69> is all i need linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and linux-image-686 ?
[12:09] <weejamer> yes burgundavia?
[12:09] <Epod69> and what is the restricted linux-686 for?
[12:09] <weejamer> thanx ubotu
[12:09] <Burgundavia> weejamer, see the link ubotu posted
[12:09] <LinuxJones> Epod69, I am looking at the dependencies for nvidia-glx but don't see any reference to the 386 kernel. Have you upgraded your system since installing ?
[12:09] <Snippy> weejamer, well nothing works here.. :(
[12:09] <crashd> hmm
[12:10] <Epod69> LinuxJones, yes, ill do it again though, maybe I should restart so that the only kernel to select is the 686 one
[12:10] <Snippy> brb guys.. have to restart.. wish me luck ;)
[12:10] <crashd> trying to configure wifi, iwconfig throws up "Rx: invalid nwid"
[12:10] <nickrud> BTJustice, does that ring any bells?
[12:10] <crashd> which the WiFiTroubleshooting reckons is wrong essid
[12:10] <BTJustice> nickrud: Des what ring any bells?
[12:10] <LinuxJones> Epod69, yeah upgrade then re-boot into the 686 kernel, you should be ok from then on.
[12:10] <Epod69> k
[12:10] <Epod69> brb
[12:11] <crashd> any ideas?
[12:11] <nickrud> conflicts between sound cards; do you have an onboard sound chip you can disable?
[12:11] <BTJustice> nickrud: Oh.  The Conexant?  I believe that is my modem.
[12:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know how to install realplayer?
[12:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> the directions suck
[12:11] <nickrud> BTJustice, which, the communication or multimedia on?
[12:11] <McScruff> lo i mounted an iso image, how do i unmount it?
[12:11] <nickrud> *one
[12:11] <BTJustice> nickrud: Communication
[12:12] <nickrud> BTJustice, so, the multimedia one is the one I'd check
[12:13] <BTJustice> nickrud: The multimedia one is part of my MSI TV Card
[12:14] <Spudchat> anyone know where i could find the driver for my dell's onboard speakers?
[12:15] <Spudchat> it doesnt allow me to hear sound in some games for linux
[12:15] <Epod69> im in the 686 kernel with no other kernel installed, and nvidia-glx still needs the 386 kernel to be installed =(
[12:15] <nickrud> BTJustice, k,
[12:15] <LokeDK> how do i use WPA-PSK?
[12:15] <BTJustice> Looks like it is a sound problem day in the channel
[12:16] <LokeDK> or set it up
[12:16] <Joose^> hi
[12:17] <Epod69> anyone else using the 686 kernel with nvidia ?
[12:19] <nickrud> BTJustice, well, let's just do it. sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[12:20] <nickrud> where o where is crimson when you need him :)
[12:20] <BTJustice> nickrud: I enter that.  Now what?
[12:21] <nickrud> BTJustice, do the lsmod | grep snd again. you should have something like Snippy flooded :)
[12:21] <Firebird> Hi
[12:21] <Snippy> heh I'm back
[12:23] <SeanRoth> How do I view hidden files in the terminal?
[12:23] <nickrud> SeanRoth, ls -a
[12:23] <SeanRoth> Thanks.
[12:23] <Snippy> so guys.. still no luck.. :(
[12:23] <Spudchat> well how would i stop any device that is using my audio device?
[12:23] <funkyHat> are the ubuntu repository servers still playing up for everyone else?
[12:23] <BTJustice> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/19466
[12:23] <nickrud> sound sucks right now, although it's better :)
[12:23] <Spudchat> sorry any program that is using the device?
[12:24] <nickrud> BTJustice, success! System->preferences->Multmedia selector: audio sink to alsa, and test
[12:26] <dbernar1> funkyHat: ya, they play up for me, whatever playing up means.
[12:26] <funkyHat> heh, playing up = not working properly
[12:27] <dbernar1> which ones, funkyHat ?
[12:27] <BTJustice> nickrud: Is that the same thing as Control Center > Sound & Multimedia > SOund System?
[12:27] <nickrud> BTJustice, kde?
[12:28] <funkyHat> security.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <BTJustice> yes
[12:28] <szaz> anyone about with madwifi experience?
[12:28] <bimberi> Snippy: was the reboot to try the acpi_irq_isa=7 thing?
[12:28] <nickrud> BTJustice, if you have a soundblaster, cat /dev/urandom will make noise, if your sound is working
[12:28] <nickrud> BTJustice, heh
[12:28] <Snippy> bimberi, yes
[12:29] <Snippy> bimberi, no luck at all
[12:29] <nickrud> BTJustice, if you have a soundblaster, cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp will make noise, if your sound is working
[12:29] <bimberi> Snippy: k - pity :(
[12:29] <nickrud> fingers, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[12:29] <Snippy> ok guys, right now, I tried just everything.. but NOTHING worked.. not even a little *bip* out of the speakers..
[12:29] <Snippy> now lemme check if the speakers are in the right hole O_O
[12:30] <BTJustice> nickrud: nothing
[12:30] <Snippy> oh my..
[12:30] <Snippy> now I'm feeling like a real idiot
[12:30] <Snippy> REALLY
[12:30] <gfxstyler> hi
[12:30] <nickrud> hm, i don't have dmix working, so I can't test that last line. Was it right?
[12:31] <dbernar1> funkyHat: I dont use ubuntu...well, ask someone else, what is it not doing for you?
[12:31] <BTJustice> nickrud: Do I need ot reboot?
[12:31] <gfxstyler> i got some network problems
[12:31] <nickrud> BTJustice, no.
[12:31] <Snippy> oh my god.. they werent in ANY hole..
[12:31] <Snippy> >______<
[12:31] <ubuntu> he said hole
[12:31] <bimberi> Snippy, Snippy, Snippy :)
[12:31] <JoRock> is there any difference between the WEP and WEP 40/128 that I need to add to my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[12:31] <gfxstyler> i have to type this "route add default gw ....." stuff every time i reboot my computer, it wont save my settings
[12:31] <Snippy> omg no that cant beee..
[12:32] <nickrud> I haven't used kde recently enough to know what to use to test sound properly.
[12:32] <Snippy> I DID not took em out
[12:32] <NightRider> Hmmh
[12:32] <piksi> possible to be able to install ubuntu 5.04 but use newer kernel?
[12:32] <Snippy> >_< I'm really feeling like an idiot.. wasting you guys's time..
[12:32] <Snippy> oh my
[12:32] <ubuntu> oh me oh my
[12:32] <mjr> piksi, you can install any kenrel you like afterwards, just won't be supported
[12:32] <ompaul> piksi, yes, but really why would you do that, because it would not really be Ubuntu anymore :)
[12:32] <Snippy> sound is .. working
[12:32] <Snippy> BUUUUUT somehow very bad quality
[12:32] <ubuntu> then listen up
[12:32] <NightRider> How can I manage windows's hard disks in ubuntu?
[12:32] <Snippy> chopping etc
[12:33] <funkyHat> dbernar1, i get 'Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)' for 2 of the repositories, and 'This HTTP server has broken range support [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] ' for the other one
[12:33] <NightRider> I would like to copy some files
[12:33] <segfault2k> SeanRoth:
[12:33] <SeanRoth> Yeah?
[12:33] <segfault2k> do yun know how to istnall e17 ?
[12:33] <Chaotic_Reality> NightRider, you could use samba if it's a different computer.
[12:33] <segfault2k> *you *install
[12:33] <NightRider> No, the same pc
[12:33] <ubuntu> emerge
[12:33] <segfault2k> mount
[12:33] <ubuntu> unite
[12:34] <ubuntu> umount
[12:34] <NightRider> I have windows installed on an ntfs drive and ubuntu on second drive
[12:34] <szaz> i take it theres still noone about who knows antthing about wifi and madwifi drivers?
[12:34] <piksi> mjr, ompaul: my problem is that both debian sarge and ubuntu 5.04 fail at install tring to detect my sata hdd and atapi over sata dvd (this is a new laptop) BUT knoppix 4.0 does recognize them because it has newer kernel afaik
[12:34] <ixion^^> hi, which manual should I be looking at I've tried ifconfig and interfaces but cant see how to turn promiscuous mode on for an interface?
[12:34] <szaz> anyone!!!
[12:34] <szaz> please!!!
[12:34] <BTJustice> nickrud: Control Center > Sound & Multimedia > Sound System has a test button.  Selecting ALSA does nothing.
[12:34] <SeanRoth> segfault2k: Hold on, one second.
[12:34] <piksi> mjr,ompaul : so even installing fails immediately at detection, no partitions found and no cdrom found
[12:34] <ompaul> piksi, that is a reasonable reason :)
[12:35] <ubuntu> i keep trying to install gentoo, but i get lost in the manual then have to start over
[12:35] <Snippy> how can I fix this bad sound ? o_O
[12:35] <NightRider> Hmh
[12:35] <ompaul> piksi, however check if the relevant module is in the source for your existing kernel
[12:35] <ubuntu> maybe i had too much beer waiting for the stage three tarball to unload
[12:35] <NightRider> How do I use umount?
[12:35] <Chaotic_Reality> NightRider, I believe you can mount the ntfs partition, but I am not sure how off the top of my head.
[12:35] <NightRider> Hmhm
[12:35] <NightRider> Well
[12:36] <johanbr> ixion^^: From ifconfig manpage: "promisc    Enable or disable the promiscuous mode of an interface"
[12:36] <piksi> ompaul: there were some missing
[12:36] <Snippy> errrr brb
[12:36] <NightRider> I only need to read data from there, I'm not willing to write anything, if that help
[12:36] <NightRider> s
[12:36] <piksi> ompaul: i tried loading with insmod and checked with modprobe during the install
[12:36] <Pega> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gettingstarted there is also how to mount ntfs read only
[12:36] <piksi> ompaul: didnt' help, some are apparently missing
[12:36] <Pega> search the page with ntfs and the firs that comes out
[12:36] <ixion^^> hmm maybe I was spelling it wrong
[12:36] <piksi> ompaul: so i guess i need ubuntu install with newer/different kernel than current, i was hoping that the installation was possible from knoppix (which i have installed)
[12:37] <ompaul> piksi, so then it is install a new kernel and live with it until Ubuntu catches up :)
[12:37] <segfault2k> SeanRoth: thanks
[12:37] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to not get lost in the manual of Gentoo while trying to install it from a live cd?
[12:38] <Pega> NightRider, did you notice my message? Just to make sure... :P
[12:38] <SeanRoth> segfault2k: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 There's a howto on installing E17.
[12:38] <NightRider> Yes thanks for that
[12:39] <Pega> k, np
[12:39] <ixion^^> johanbr, any chance you know what the syntax for it is, I'm trying ifconfig eth0 promisc and ifconfig eth0 promisc but I'm not convinced anything is happening, no output in dmesg
[12:40] <ubuntu> goodbye
[12:40] <gfxstyler> can someone tell me in which file the ip adress and gateway adress is stored?
[12:40] <ixion^^> try /etc/network/interfaces
[12:40] <ixion^^> thats the config, not sure what your question is tbh
[12:41] <gfxstyler> i have to add the default gateway adress everytime i reboot the computer and that sucks badly
[12:41] <ixion^^> yeh stick it in there
[12:41] <ixion^^> just type gateway x.x.x.x
[12:41] <ixion^^> on the correct interface
[12:41] <gfxstyler> okay i'll do it
[12:42] <ixion^^> then, route del default gw x.x.x.x
[12:42] <ixion^^> to remove the route
[12:42] <ixion^^> then ifdown eth0
[12:42] <ixion^^> and ifup eth0
[12:42] <ixion^^> and then see if you can reach an external IP
[12:42] <crashd> how do you un-modprobe something
[12:42] <crashd> to take that particular driver out ?
[12:42] <brettcar> crashd: rmmod
[12:42] <nickrud> crashd, rmmod <module>, if it's set up right
[12:42] <crashd> k, cool
[12:42] <piksi> ompaul: well, thanks anyway :-)
[12:43] <segfault2k> SeanRoth: yeah, i followed that howto, but my system install e16
[12:43] <gfxstyler> im testing it out, see you later :) thanks
[12:43] <segfault2k> i've edited the apt preferences
[12:43] <segfault2k> but i dont know what happen
[12:43] <crashd> eurgh
[12:43] <crashd> wifi is giving me a headache
[12:43] <weejamer> does anyone know why i cant play mp3's from a default install
[12:44] <ixion^^> because its illigal to supply the codecs with the standard install
[12:44] <nickrud> crashd, the kernel does not guarantee you can rmmod an installed module, but it does work often
[12:44] <mjr> weejamer, you can thank software patents for that
[12:44] <ixion^^> crashd, what wifi card? or more importantly, what chipset
[12:44] <weejamer> so where do i get the codec ixion^^
[12:44] <ixion^^> universe/multiverse
[12:44] <crashd> ixion^^: well, ubuntu reports it as admtek 8211
[12:45] <weejamer> ???
[12:45] <bimberi> !restricted
[12:45] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:45] <bimberi> weejamer: ^^^
[12:45] <ixion^^> crashd, the best way to troublshoot wifi problems is to determine the chipset and then google for ubuntu "chipset"
[12:45] <airmikey> what plugin do i need for firefox to see video
[12:45] <endee> hey . anyone can help me how to intall alsa drivers on my laptop on ubuntu ?
[12:45] <ixion^^> probably the vlc one airmikey
[12:46] <SeanRoth> segfault2k: Did you follow every step?
[12:46] <crashd> ooh
[12:46] <nickrud> airmikey, mozilla-mplayer works also
[12:46] <crashd> i think ive got it working with ndiswrapper
[12:46] <crashd> it suddenly lit up like a christmas tree
[12:46] <ixion^^> ndissrapper is evil, but it is easier :)
[12:46] <crashd> aye
[12:46] <crashd> i tried the opensource 8211 driver
[12:46] <crashd> but it's screwed
[12:47] <airmikey> cool...thx guys
[12:47] <ixion^^> do ndiswrapper --list
[12:47] <ixion^^> shud tell you the status of the hardware
[12:48] <JoRock> when you are using a wep password do you have to specify the protocal in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <Snippy> ok guys
[12:48] <Snippy> somehow.. it works fine now with my sound.. playing a mp3 atm
[12:48] <Snippy> what a magic
[12:48] <crashd> ahar
[12:48] <crashd> it works now :] 
[12:48] <Snippy> god I'm feeling so bad..
[12:48] <nickrud> lol, Snippy don't
[12:49] <nickrud> it's magic, you're right
[12:49] <Firebird> Snippy, feeling bad 'coz it works now ?
[12:49] <Snippy> but the speaker.. dude the speakeeeers wherent plugged in..
[12:49] <dbernar1> No, he is just copying queen.
[12:49] <Snippy> -h
[12:49] <nickrud> Snippy, BTJustice was right :)
[12:49] <Snippy> yeah..
[12:49] <Snippy> haha..
[12:49] <nickrud> been there, as I said ;P
[12:50] <Snippy> but hey, atleaaast I've got another problem..
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[12:50] <Snippy> playing mp3, no sound from other apps.. I know about this.. and I read somewhere how to fix it but dont remember :(
[12:50] <dbernar1> unavaible...
[12:51] <nickrud> !sound
[12:51] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[12:51] <^thehatsrule^> Added *!*USERNAME@85.206.65.15 to ignore list
[12:51] <logical_mark> hey can anyone help me out for a sec. I am new to linux and have a few questions
[12:51] <Firebird> Snippy, did you install sox and all these nifty codecs ?
[12:52] <dbernar1> ;)
[12:52] <Snippy> hey.. only xmms works now.. nothing else gives sound
[12:52] <ixion^^> logical_mark, just ask
[12:52] <Snippy> no firebird
[12:52] <Firebird> Snippy, that would be a good start
[12:52] <Chromance> Anyone know where I Can find the hardware support list for Ubunutu? can't seem to find it
[12:52] <Firebird> it's in the "first step install doc"
[12:52] <segfault2k> [18:46]  <SeanRoth> segfault2k: Did you follow every step? <- yeah
[12:52] <Snippy> oh..
[12:53] <logical_mark> lol - well I just started messing with linux last week and so far the best distro I have found is ubuntu b/c it recognizes ALL my hardware without any problems. My biggest problem is installing programs. Mostly b/c I dont know how.
[12:53] <Snippy> what do they do, firebird?
[12:53] <Firebird> make it available for the system to play all sorts of sounds
[12:53] <nickrud> Chromance, you might start at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=hardware&titlesearch=Titles
[12:53] <logical_mark> I tried to install a .deb package of skype but that when I click on it in my Menu -> Internet -> Skype, nothing happens
[12:53] <joe__> logical_mark, ubuntuguide.org is really good
[12:54] <logical_mark> I will check it out thanks joe_
[12:54] <ixion^^> logical_mark, could you not find a package in teh universe/multiverse sources?
[12:54] <nickrud> heh, ubuntuguide, it's getting edited?
[12:54] <ixion^^> synaptic
[12:54] <Snippy> firebird:  I see.. where is the doc located?
[12:54] <logical_mark> lol,  I have no clue what the universe/multiverse sources are
[12:54] <avanspronsen> !ubuntuguide
[12:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, how can I find out what temperature my CPU is right now?
[12:55] <logical_mark> I tried synaptic but it dosnt have skype or limiewire
[12:55] <Firebird> Snippy, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:55] <nickrud> !tell logical_mark about components
[12:55] <logical_mark> or really anything i am looking for
[12:55] <McScruff> what is mcopy, i need it but dont have it :(
[12:55] <Firebird> Snippy, it might be worth a try
[12:55] <tiglionabbit> logical_mark: you can get skype from it's own repository.  Go to the skype webpage
[12:55] <Snippy> Firebird, lets hope ;)
[12:55] <tiglionabbit> http://skype.com
[12:56] <logical_mark> tiglionabbit, this is all I find there http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/
[12:56] <logical_mark> should I be looking somewhere else
[12:56] <avanspronsen> logical_mark: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto
[12:56] <Firebird> tiglionabbit, install lm-sensors, run sensors-detect and then /etc/init.d/modutils depmod -a, and check in any temperature application
[12:56] <logical_mark> thanks avans
[12:56] <avanspronsen> logical_mark: np
[12:56] <Snippy> firebird, ok doing this now, brb :)
[12:56] <Firebird> Snippy, K
[12:56] <ixion^^> logical_mark, before you bother with any of that find out what universe and multiverse are
[12:57] <ixion^^> just google ubuntu multiverse
[12:57] <logical_mark> I'll google it now
[12:57] <avanspronsen> logical_mark: you should always have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation first if you have questions
[12:57] <ixion^^> or universe will probably give you better results
[12:57] <hybrid_goth> is there a knofabulator or dashboard equal for Linux?
[12:57] <joe__> is there a window manager that works the way the Mac menu bar works (i.e. when i scroll my mouse over the icons they get bigger and easy to see)
[12:57] <Firebird> Snippy, to avoid having to type your password for each sudo.... do sudo -s -H
[12:57] <ixion^^> basically, those sources have crap loads of software
[12:57] <avanspronsen> hybrid_goth: gDesklets
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> logical_mark: oh I forgot, it's in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto
[12:57] <logical_mark> thanks avanspronsen I will do that now that I knwo it is there
[12:57] <hybrid_goth> avanspronsen:  ty
[12:58] <avanspronsen> logical_mark: no problems, lots of good stuff there
[12:58] <avanspronsen> hybrid_goth: np bud!
[12:58] <logical_mark> avans are you running ubuntu?
[12:58] <nickrud> gdesklets??!!
[12:58] <Snippy> firebird: I just use the root terminal..? works too oO
[12:58] <cut0ff> hi there
[12:58] <avanspronsen> logical_mark: yes
[12:58] <Firebird> Snippy, right
[12:58] <logical_mark> I looked at slax and really liked what I saw, but no support for my centrino wireless
[12:59] <Snippy> Firebird, can I query you for a sec?
[12:59] <logical_mark> thanks for the help guys. This is one of the most supportive distro communities i have found.
[12:59] <avanspronsen> logical_mark: Ubuntu is the best distro I have tried, and I have tried a lot of them :-)
[12:59] <logical_mark> yeah me to avans
[12:59] <joe__> logical_mark, ditto
[12:59] <logical_mark> I like the ease and hardware support
[01:00] <logical_mark> and like i just said all you guys are not asses to people with questions
[01:00] <joe__> the community is great
[01:00] <avanspronsen> hardware support, community, install, defaults, etc...all top notch
[01:00] <joe__> avanspronsen, well, maybe not install
[01:00] <logical_mark> I am going to go lookup that multiverse stuff and read up in wikipedia. thanks for the help
[01:00] <Firebird> Snippy, sure
[01:01] <avanspronsen> joe__: I like the install, very simple, maybe the partitioning could use some work but otherwise nice and simple
[01:01] <nickrud> joe__, it's just that most of us have been burned on installs, and sound, and networking, and ... :)\
[01:01] <joe__> nickrud, true, it's functionally great
[01:02] <joe__> and i personally dont have a problem with it at all
[01:02] <joe__> i'm used to installing debian, though
[01:02] <joe__> and i've heard there are some good graphical installers that may be easier for novices
[01:02] <chrissturm> i am running a ati card with fglrx driver and dual head. how can i configure on what screen my login screen appears?
[01:05] <tiglionabbit> Firebird: I think I did it wrong and it didn't work
[01:06] <tiglionabbit> gkrellm reports all temperature sensors as 0
[01:06] <k-0tik> may not have a temperature sensor
[01:07] <k-0tik> try out superkaramba also its the same as gkrellm but i like it better because it sits on your desktop all tranlucent and shit
[01:07] <k-0tik> its hto
[01:08] <crashd> hmm
[01:09] <crashd> how do i move panel applets around?
[01:09] <Firebird> tiglionabbit, but do you have sensors detected ? when you type the command "sensors", does it display the different temperature and fan speeds ?
[01:10] <mjr> crashd, drag with middle button or choose move from applet context menu
[01:10] <Firebird> crashd, right click -> move ?
[01:11] <crashd> yah, i tried that, but i cant put a new applet in the default ubuntu one in the top right corner
[01:11] <nickrud> crashd, you need to unlock the applets that are blocking: right click, unlock
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> Firebird: oh, thanks, that does show my CPU temperature
[01:12] <n3x4> hi, does anyone know what to press when you're installing ubuntu and you're at the blue screen when it's finished installing and you've rebooted, because it says like 'change your timezone' and I go to the 'ok' area through 'tab' , but how do I activate it? because as soon as I click enter, or space it goes to the invisible prompt and the blue screen moves up, and I have to restart to try again.. help is greatly appreciated
[01:14] <Firebird> tiglionabbit, that means you have installed the sensors correctly. Now with gdesklets (that you should install) you'll have multiple ways to display temperature on your desktop
[01:14] <cappiz> i have found some thread at the forums about freenx.. but i dont seemt to be abel to install it... someone got a "working" guide for hoary?
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> Firebird: thank you
[01:14] <Firebird> tiglionabbit, de nada
[01:14] <direwolf> i dont like the fcc
[01:14] <Firebird> cappiz, weah, I heard freenx rules
[01:14] <n3x4> anyone?
[01:15] <phixion> if I use btdownloadcurses to download, how can i make an alias for it, so i dont have to type it all out, maybe just "torrent torrentname.torrent" in console to make it start?
[01:15] <cappiz> hu Firebird ?
[01:15] <kezz> use ln -s
[01:15] <weejamer> does anyone know how to switch between 2 sound devices in linux
[01:15] <kezz> or tab complete
[01:15] <Firebird> cappiz, freenx is on the Ubuntu apt repositories... you should be able to apt-get it
[01:16] <nickrud> phixion, maybe, alias btd='btdownloadcurses'
[01:16] <weejamer> does anyone know how to switch between 2 sound devices in linux
[01:16] <Firebird> cappiz, eventually, read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ <- that's an excellent help, it also have new repositories to have more applications
[01:16] <cappiz> Firebird what line i need in sources.list then?
[01:16] <cappiz> cause i dont get it
[01:16] <phixion> nickrud, where would I put that?
[01:16] <direwolf> im not sure in gnome ...ive been usin xfce
[01:16] <Firebird> cappiz, it's all explained in the website I just gave you
[01:17] <avanspronsen> !ubuntuguide
[01:17] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[01:17] <weejamer> does anyone know how to switch between 2 sound devices in linux
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> phixion: to make an alias, say "alias thealias='The Long Command'"  To make it permanent, add that line to your .bashrc file
[01:17] <phixion> thanks alot for the help :)
[01:17] <direwolf> weejamer please dont repeat yourself, give people some time and someone will help you
[01:17] <phixion> do you know a way of making it prompt for a certain string?
[01:18] <weejamer> oooookkkkaaaaaayyyy
[01:18] <Firebird> ubotu, it looks to me to be filled with plenty of explanation. If you heard about it, did you also check it out ?
[01:18] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Firebird
[01:18] <nickrud> phixion, I keep those in .bash_aliases, sourced from .bashrc
[01:18] <avanspronsen> Firebird: ubotu is a bot of sorts with automated responses :-)
[01:19] <Firebird> That's exactly what I thought
[01:19] <Firebird> didn't reply to version either... obviously a bot
[01:19] <nickrud> a stroked bot, tho, Firebird :)
[01:20] <avanspronsen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is roughly the equivalent link on the wiki
[01:20] <weejamer> <<<<not alowed to repeat myself but can anyone help me with sound card issues
[01:20] <chrissturm> what package is mscorlib.dll in?
[01:20] <Firebird> nickrud, hehe
[01:20] <phixion> tiglionabbit, do i have to reload bash.rc after adding to it? the command i added isnt recognised
[01:20] <direwolf> weejamer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22162.html
[01:21] <Firebird> philips, exec bash
[01:21] <Firebird> oops
[01:21] <Firebird> phixion, erm, try exec bash
[01:21] <nickrud> phixion, source ~/.bashrc to reload
[01:21] <direwolf> i love google
[01:22] <sun> is there a way to recompile firefox with special options? --enable-pango
[01:22] <phixion> thx
[01:22] <phixion> both :)
[01:22] <Firebird> oh right... source works also
[01:22] <cappiz> Firebird great works :D
[01:22] <piksi> em, can anyone tell me reason why apt-get dist-upgrade wants to uninstall mount
[01:22] <piksi> and install mount-aes instead
[01:22] <weejamer> that did not fix my issue direwolf
[01:24] <Firebird> cappiz, hehe, nice ;)
[01:24] <sun> bump
[01:24] <tiglionabbit> nickrud: well the distro has been out for a while, people have learned the basics and are going to start screwing around with things that are harder
[01:25] <nickrud> tiglionabbit, yeah, I've noticed
[01:25] <nickrud> low hanging fruit is harder to find :)
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> it's a good thing
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> we're getting smarter
[01:25] <brandon> Hey, I have a problem with Apache
[01:25] <tiglionabbit> see, the docteam would have us believe that "normal users don't use apache"
[01:25] <direwolf> who doesnt
[01:26] <weejamer> hello i got a problem with 2 sound devices how do i switch between the 2 devices
[01:26] <Firebird> brandon, a few had problems with Apache already.. that program is a biatch, but hey, we love and need it
[01:26] <brandon> I installed it with apt-get, and the /var/www directory won't let me save any files in it
[01:26] <brandon> Yeah, it's the permissions
[01:26] <nickrud> tiglionabbit, well, who need's a local webserver, unless you're using debian doc stuff?
[01:26] <tiglionabbit> weejamer: system -> preferences -> multimedia systems selector ?
[01:26] <Firebird> weejamer, I suppose you didn't repeat yourself :)
[01:26] <brandon> It won't let me change permissions either
[01:26] <weejamer> lol firebird
[01:26] <Firebird> brandon, you have to use apt-get as superuser
[01:26] <nickrud> which never was good enough, anyway
[01:27] <brandon> I put sudo in front of it...
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> brandon: you need to be super user to edit directories outside of /home
[01:27] <avanspronsen> brandon: I usually create my own dir as my www root folder
[01:27] <weejamer> tiglionabbit the  option is not there? but thans
[01:27] <weejamer> thanks^
[01:27] <nickrud> tiglionabbit, I spoke without thinking: cups
[01:27] <tiglionabbit> weejamer: oh, true, I don't really know
[01:27] <brandon> Oh...is there any way to make my account superuser?
[01:27] <jim_> i've got a question so stupid it hurts.
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> brandon: well, you can run anything as root
[01:28] <Firebird> brandon, it's not a good idea at all to do everything with a super user account
[01:28] <jim_> i'm running ubuntu on two machines along with three windows 2k machines.
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> brandon: using sudo, or sudo -s to become root-ish.  Are you familiar with the terminal?
[01:28] <brandon> Yeah
[01:28] <direwolf> wee are both devices showing up? ... lspci and/or lsusb
[01:28] <brandon> A little, I don't know too much about it
[01:28] <cappiz> Firebird the sound isnt working though...
[01:29] <weejamer> tiglionabbit if i goto volume control and can goto file>Change device but that don't work either
[01:29] <Firebird> cappiz, did you check the cables, the volume ?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> brandon: okay, in that case, just do applications -> run application, and type in "gksudo" followed by the name of the program you want to run.  It will then run with root permissions and ask you your password
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> weejamer: I think Ubuntu uses all of your devices at the same time, and all that matters is the individual volume control for each one.  Open the volume control panel, switch devices, and start turning things up and unmuting them
[01:30] <jim_> i can't get the two ubuntu machines to talk to one another, though they see one another.
[01:30] <cappiz> wel... i get sound locally at the computer... cause when i plugin the cabel to the host itself it works
[01:30] <miguel> hello everyone!
[01:30] <cappiz> but not over NX client
[01:30] <brandon> Alright, I can save things in it now. But how do I delete files in there?
[01:30] <Chromance> anyone know how I can get my Grub back for dual boot? I did a new install of windows . Now I can't get my ubuntu linux goin
[01:30] <weejamer> hmmm intresting idea tiglionabbit
[01:30] <brandon> I need to delete /var/www/index.html
[01:30] <warp_> h
[01:30] <warp_> hi
[01:30] <warp_> i need help
[01:30] <miguel> someone have a source to download mplayer for ubuntu 5.4
[01:31] <Firebird> miguel yes
[01:31] <avanspronsen> jim_ what are you using to talk from machine to machine?
[01:31] <miguel> Firebird, tellme plz
[01:31] <warp_> how can i change form gcc-4.0 to gcc-3.3
[01:31] <weejamer> does not work tiglionabbit
[01:31] <bimberi> Chromance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:31] <tiglionabbit> brandon: well, the admins here would kill me if I said "gksudo nautilus".  But um, you could "cd" (change directory) to that folder, and "sudo rm" (switch-user + remove) the files
[01:31] <Chromance> thanks
[01:32] <bimberi> yw :)
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> brandon: they think if you run nautilus as root, it will mess up an authority file somewhere
[01:32] <jim_> konqueror
[01:32] <warp_> how can i change form gcc-4.0 to gcc-3.3?????
[01:32] <Firebird> miguel you have to use the multiverse repository
[01:32] <direwolf> oops haha
[01:32] <tiglionabbit> !info mplayer-386
[01:32] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB
[01:32] <miguel> Firebird, how is that
[01:33] <avanspronsen> jim_: what protocol?  are you trying to use ssh, samba, ftp?
[01:33] <tiglionabbit> miguel: mplayer is in multiverse.  See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:33] <Firebird> you have to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <bimberi> warp_: install gcc-3.3 and modify /usr/bin/gcc (which is a shortcut) to point to gcc3.3
[01:34] <Firebird> well I won't continue as tiglionabbit replied already
[01:34] <jim_> avanspronsen: i've tried samba.  I haven't configured ssh or ftp on either machine.
[01:34] <warp_> ok thanks
[01:35] <avanspronsen> jim_: what are you trying to do? copy files? adhoc kinda stuff?
[01:35] <nickrud> warp_, as bimberi said, but try update-alternatives --config cc
[01:36] <bimberi> nickrud: ooh yes - thanks :)
[01:36] <warp_> ok
[01:36] <brandon> Alright, I changed the command for my jEdit launcher to `gksudo jedit'
[01:36] <nickrud> bimberi, thanks, I was just panicing over that, looking up some more docs :)
[01:36] <matsur> Hi all, how do I get cool and Quiet working w/ amd64?
[01:37] <avanspronsen> jim_: ssh is really easy...in a termincal type "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[01:37] <brandon> So that lets me save stuff in my /var/www...
[01:37] <avanspronsen> jim_: to install on each machine
[01:38] <brandon> But, how could I move a massive amount of files into it? I have a server on Windows too, and I want the server on both OS's. I have my files on a CD, but it won't let me copy the files and paste them in /var/www.
[01:38] <Chromance> any new info on the new release of Ubuntu?
[01:38] <sun> why is my .bash_profile not sourced when i first login?
[01:38] <cappiz> you know what that might be Firetech ?
[01:38] <cappiz> ops
[01:38] <brandon> Anyone?
[01:39] <sun> brandon, i use jEdit too; it rocks! :)
[01:40] <nickrud> sun, gdm does not source .bashrc; only terminals do.
[01:40] <avanspronsen> brandon: I would have setup a new dir, have you as the owner and www-data as the group.  that way you get the access you need and www-data would have the access it needs
[01:40] <sun> nickrud, is there a .gdmrc i can mess with?
[01:41] <nickrud> sun, ~/.gnomerc is sourced whenever you start a gnome session
[01:41] <sun> nickrud, thanks that'll do the trick
[01:42] <ubuntu> ubuntu meio doidado... xo voltar pro meu debian
[01:42] <avanspronsen> brandon: you can also chmod the default dir too to update the permissions
[01:42] <farruinn> I can't get the modem on my 800 MHz eMac to connect, has anyone configured ppp on an eMac?
[01:42] <h08817> i need some help please
[01:42] <miguel> Firetech, if i just download w32codes,could work with totem?
[01:43] <h08817> how do i get my netgear usb to work on a linux computer
[01:43] <h08817> i have used it all the time on my windows system
[01:43] <h08817> so how do i get it to work in linux?
[01:43] <Firetech> Why are everyone highlighting me?
[01:43] <miguel> Firebird if i just download w32codes,could work with totem?
[01:44] <h08817> netgear wg111 help
[01:44] <Firetech> I haven't said anything here for atleast 48 hours
[01:44] <avanspronsen> h08817: it is not being automounted?
[01:44] <h08817> whatever that means
[01:44] <h08817> i just want to get online with my linux machine
[01:44] <warp_> other question, i have a sony clie peg-s320, How I can raise photos to him?
[01:45] <h08817> do i need a driver or something?
[01:45] <Firetech> miguel: Firebird went offline 10 minutes ago.
[01:45] <h08817> do i need to configure my internet or what? i am a noob to linux
[01:46] <h08817> avanspronsen, how can i get internet on my netgear wg111 usb?
[01:46] <warp_> please help me
[01:46] <avanspronsen> h08817: sorry, misunderstood, though tyou were talking about a usb thumbdrive
[01:47] <Joose^> hi guys..
[01:47] <h08817> nope sorry
[01:47] <h08817> can any1 help me with a netgear wg111 usb?
[01:47] <Joose^> nah... i cann't configure my modem.. intel 537ep .. is anybody tried to install it?
[01:48] <warp_> how can i raise photos to sony clie
[01:49] <warp_> anyone have a plam???
[01:49] <warp_> palm
[01:49] <lok> what did the server install of ubuntu does exactly ?
[01:49] <stumbles> hey
[01:50] <lok> a preconfigure install of apache or another server type? or juste a light install ?
[01:50] <farruinn> lok: I believe it's a light install, doesn't include gnome etc
[01:50] <bimberi> !ndiswrapper
[01:50] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:50] <farruinn> I've never tried it though
[01:51] <cafuego> lok: The ubuntu server install basically does a 'debian' install ;-)
[01:51] <h08817> what does ndiswrapper do?
[01:51] <bimberi> h08817: ubotu's post above plus this thread might help you - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993
[01:51] <Joose^> nah... i cann't configure my modem.. intel 537ep .. is anybody tried to install it?
[01:51] <h08817> ok thanks
[01:51] <lok> ok thanks
[01:51] <bimberi> h08817: it enables you to use windows wireless drivers
[01:51] <cafuego> h08817: loads windows drivers into the linux kernel, thus sending the signmal to manufacturers that it's OK to only write windows drivers.
[01:52] <h08817> ok i have ndiswrapper installed
[01:52] <cafuego> h08817: handy for users who can't check docs before they shop, but politically very bad.
[01:52] <h08817> how do i find out the list of drivers it will allow me to install
[01:52] <Snippy> hello again people
[01:52] <stumbles> how is it finanically viable for Ubuntu to be mailed out to whoever wants it?
[01:52] <Snippy> hey cafuego
[01:52] <Snippy> got good news for you :P
[01:52] <cafuego> Snippy: Stop accusing me!
[01:52] <h08817> i need to install netgear usb wg111
[01:53] <Snippy> cafuego hehe:P listen, sound is fixed.. want to know what the problem was?
[01:53] <cafuego> Snippy: What was it?
[01:53] <cafuego> volume turned down? ;-)
[01:53] <direwolf> unfortunately i have to use ndiswrapper
[01:53] <Snippy> cafuego, worse
[01:53] <cafuego> speakers off?
[01:53] <Snippy> cafuego: worse
[01:53] <windex> stumbles, its advertising. it says for a limited time. the ubuntu foundation at some point made a decision to produce and ship, for free, the cd's to promote the OS.
[01:53] <farruinn> Has anyone configured ppp for an eMac modem?  I can't get it to work
[01:53] <Snippy> they weren plugged in  >___<
[01:53] <pax> someone copy their original /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to pastebin for me
[01:53] <Snippy> +t
[01:53] <h08817> thanks for the link i think there is something useful there
[01:54] <direwolf> for my main tasks anyway ....ahem peripheral ahem ...i can use the linux driver modules for though
[01:54] <cafuego> "Of je stopt de stekker erin"
[01:54] <Xenguy> stumbles: it's not "financially viable"; it's an act of charity and generosity
[01:54] <Snippy> cafuego, funny uh? I'm feeling so.. idiotic somehow >_<
[01:54] <cafuego> farruinn: is is detected as /dev/ttySX ?
[01:54] <cafuego> Snippy: Well you know, happens to the best of us ;-)
[01:55] <farruinn> through the Network dialog I click "detect automatically" and it says it can't detect anything
[01:55] <Snippy> hehe yea..
[01:55] <bimberi> Snippy: Let he who hath never made a silly mistake cast the first stone :)
[01:55] <Snippy> anyway, I've got a question.. I got a 120 GB NTFS partition full of important files for me.. how can I access it without restrictions.. maybe even change the partition without moving or losing the files.. any guess?
[01:55] <Snippy> hehe
[01:56] <cafuego> Snippy: "not"
[01:56] <mevvis> hi
[01:56] <factotum> hello mevvis
[01:56] <Joose^> nah... i cann't configure my modem.. intel 537ep .. has anybody tried to install it?
[01:56] <cafuego> Snippy: You can READ the files with no problems, but you can't write to that partition without destroying it.
[01:56] <Snippy> I've heard that it IS possible to even change the partition without moving / erasing files..
[01:56] <jim__> hello everyone... anyone good with shortcuts?
[01:56] <Xenguy> Snippy: partition magic, or some such
[01:57] <farruinn> I've tried configuring things through the Network settings dialog as well as with pppconfig
[01:57] <cafuego> Snippy: Oh, parted yes... keep in mind that has a disclaimer stating to have a backup, coz it MAY mess up.
[01:57] <jim__> I need to set the workpath in the shortcut can anyone help?
[01:57] <Snippy> but this will delete the files?
[01:57] <Nomad_1> "Extreme Computing": Most people think high powered hardware, I think 'body armor required' (I'm not sure but I think right now is the first time anyone's dinked around on their computer with body armor on :) )
[01:57] <cafuego> Snippy: No, it will move the partition boundaries, but keep the files intact.
[01:57] <Snippy> when I change the partition to ext3.. from ntfs.. wont it destroy the files? o_O
[01:57] <Snippy> ohh
[01:57] <Xenguy> Snippy: you want software that will do non-destructive partitioning
[01:57] <Snippy> yes
[01:58] <farruinn> In /var/log/syslog it gets to "chat[pid]  expect(OK)" then I get "chat[pid]  alarm" "chat[pid]  failed"
[01:58] <cafuego> Snippy: No, if you change the partition type, a few bytes are flipped in the MBR. The problem is when you then run 'mkfs' - that DOES erase everything :-)
[01:58] <Snippy> what is mkfs?
[01:58] <cafuego> Snippy: The actual 'format' equivalent used to make new filesystems.
[01:59] <direwolf> make filesystem (format)
[01:59] <Xenguy> Snippy: I've only used PM (d0ze); on linux there is [G|Q] parted, but I've never used them myself...
[01:59] <nickrud> Snippy, take it to the bank: changing partition definitions destroys data.
[01:59] <Xenguy> Snippy: always have a backup ideally before using such s/w
[01:59] <Snippy> how the heck would I backup 120 GB ? >_< it's filled..
[01:59] <sun> how can i run multiple X servers? i want to run different WMs on the same machine
[01:59] <jim__> anyone know about creating menu items for cedega games??
[01:59] <cafuego> Snippy: What's yer budget?
[01:59] <direwolf> a bunch of dvd's
[02:00] <Snippy> I'm student oO
[02:00] <direwolf> another hd...etc
[02:00] <cafuego> direwolf: By the time you add cost of media plus time spent burning, a new HDD is cheaper.
[02:00] <direwolf> agreed
[02:00] <Snippy> my DVD Burner is.. hehe well.. broken..
[02:00] <direwolf> hd it is!
[02:00] <Snippy> and yes its plugged in :P
[02:00] <direwolf> ;)
[02:00] <cafuego> woo, dvd2 is dibe
[02:01] <cafuego> done
[02:01] <Snippy> so there is absolutly NO chance of just changing the partition type from ntfs to ext3 WITHOUT destroyin' data? *crys*
[02:01] <cafuego> Snippy: None whatsoever.
[02:01] <nickrud> Snippy, not an effing chance
[02:01] <direwolf> i saw a link on digg.com someone selling 200gb hd's $70 us
[02:01] <Snippy> what does effing mean?
[02:02] <cafuego> Snippy: That works from ext2 to ext3 and not EVER any other time.
[02:02] <Snippy> I see..
[02:02] <Snippy> damn o_O
[02:02] <dooglus> it works for ext3 to ext2 too
[02:02] <Snippy> c'mon guys.. dont make jokes with me.. there MUST be a way..
[02:02] <nickrud> means I'm skirting the code of conduct :)
[02:03] <factotum> If there is a way, linux install would have that option at boot time
[02:03] <cafuego> Snippy: No, there is NO way.
[02:03] <Snippy> damn
[02:03] <factotum> your outa luck
[02:03] <Snippy> and what if I keep NTFS?
[02:03] <nickrud> Snippy, it's just a way of saying, back up the stuff on the ntfs partition, if you really want to save the data
[02:03] <Snippy> is there a way to read and write to the partition ?
[02:03] <cafuego> Snippy: The ONLY way is to back up all that data, then erase and reformat the disk.
[02:04] <cafuego> Snippy: No way you'd care to put up with.
[02:04] <crashd> if you try and modprobe something and it says invalid format xxxx.ko
[02:04] <crashd> what's the deal?
[02:04] <direwolf> do you know anyone one who has a drive with enough free space to backup your data?
[02:04] <cafuego> yeah, students ought to know other students with 250GB pr0n drives
[02:04] <direwolf> perhaps you could borrow it until you get yours repartitioned and reformatted ?
[02:05] <windex> Snippy, sata and ide hard disks are currently less than $1/gb. add an external usb enclosure for $40. you've got yourself a backup.
[02:05] <direwolf> cafuego hahaha exactly
[02:05] <factotum> i was gonna say, if its pron....lmao
[02:05] <cafuego> god knows i did at uni :-)
[02:05] <Snippy> oh my..
[02:05] <desrt> ya
[02:05] <Snippy> I could maybe make my server up
[02:05] <direwolf> cafuego...moved up to terabyte network storage eh?
[02:05] <Snippy> got 7 pc's around here
[02:05] <desrt> your typical university student can round up about a TB of porn on short notice
[02:05] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know a good /cue splitter?
[02:06] <MrGardenHoseMan> .cue*
[02:06] <Snippy> but I think that all the HDDs together wont even make 100GB
[02:06] <Snippy> lol
[02:06] <Snippy> old stuff
[02:06] <windex> i'm sure his data is someting innocent, like MS Paint drawings when he was stoned^H^H^H^H^H^Hin a certian state of mind.
[02:06] <Snippy> o_O
[02:06] <desrt> windex; ^W
[02:06] <direwolf> snippy, your 120gb drive is totally full?
[02:06] <windex> desrt, right.
[02:06] <nickrud> mn, maybe I'll provide a little space on my server for a bit :)
[02:06] <Snippy> 10GB alone of website templates I made.. and some GB of designs I made
[02:06] <factotum> im guessing its either pron or music
[02:06] <Snippy> yes totally full
[02:06] <direwolf> first mistake right there
[02:06] <cafuego> Snippy: You only need 80GB; after that you can resize ntfs, make an 80G ext3 partition, empty and delete NTFS, grow ext3 in size...
[02:07] <desrt> music = earpr0n
[02:07] <cafuego> Snippy: Takes more time, but doesn't cost extra.
[02:07] <windex> anyway, shame on me, talk about Snippy's hard disk contents are not suitable for #ubuntu. they should go in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:07] <Stormx> Heya
[02:07] <Snippy> lol
[02:07] <Snippy> ok porn is there too :P
[02:07] <factotum> wow, ive been doing webdev for 4 years, dont think Ive had more that 2 gigs of html code at most lol
[02:07] <cafuego> Just trash the pr0n
[02:07] <Stormx> Snippy, yeh 10gb of "website templates" eh?
[02:08] <Snippy> yes
[02:08] <Snippy> + or -
[02:08] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:08] <cafuego> Stormx: 300dpi photoshop assemblies aren't small.
[02:08] <Snippy> years of work stuck in the hdd
[02:08] <mevvis> :) bye
[02:08] <factotum> id hate to wait for that to load in a browser
[02:08] <Stormx> cafuego: I'm a web designer, shutup.
[02:08] <Octane> holy crap ubuntu-quickguide takes up 29 megs!!
[02:08] <windex> Snippy, you do realize of course, that hard disks fail constantly, and not having a backup of this data if its so valuable is really, really.. unprepared.
[02:08] <Snippy> Stormx I'm one too..
[02:08] <Stormx> Snippy: ^_^
[02:08] <Snippy> I know..
[02:09] <Snippy> but I cant afford to buy lots of DVDs
[02:09] <Snippy> or another HDD
[02:09] <Stormx> Snippy: Do you code?
[02:09] <Snippy> I'm learning it
[02:09] <Snippy> learning mostly xhtml
[02:09] <Snippy> and php
[02:09] <Stormx> XHTML + PHP + MySQL = ownage
[02:09] <factotum> and the rest of us are stuck building cms's for companies we could care less about
[02:09] <cafuego> Stormx: That's =) not =(
[02:09] <windex> cafuego, nah. we don't! we seperate web development (server side) and web design (client side).
[02:10] <desrt> Stormx; boycott mysql
[02:10] <Snippy> I'm building CMS's too :P
[02:10] <Stormx> desrt: And use what instead?
[02:10] <desrt> Stormx; postgres
[02:10] <Snippy> www.snippydesigns.com
[02:10] <Snippy> ;)
[02:10] <Stormx> Snippy: I'm gonna be designing commercially soon
[02:10] <Stormx> Snippy, I'm taking a look.
[02:10] <windex> cafuego, we flog people if they ask for flash.
[02:10] <Snippy> oh well.. nothings online there :P
[02:10] <Stormx> Base_02, snippy?
[02:10] <cafuego> yes, switch to a dbms that isn't supported by most web hosting companies, great idea.
[02:10] <Snippy> changing design and adding CMs etc
[02:10] <Stormx> ^_^ I recognise fonts, how sad.
[02:11] <cafuego> windex: That's the way! :-)
[02:11] <Snippy> fastly made
[02:11] <Snippy> heh
[02:11] <Snippy> www.red-claw.com
[02:11] <Stormx> Snippy: www.dfusenetwork.com - My current site, getting there.......
[02:11] <Snippy> another creation
[02:11] <Snippy> gonna have a look :)
[02:11] <windex> cafuego, what dbms isin't supported by most web hosting companies, again?
[02:11] <Stormx> Snippy: WOW!
[02:11] <cafuego> windex: I find that most of them here don't have pgsql
[02:11] <Snippy> if you want, I can show you some of my works?
[02:11] <Stormx> Snippy: Thats damn good ^_^
[02:11] <Snippy> thanks
[02:11] <Stormx> Snippy: You have MSN?
[02:12] <windex> cafuego, oh. right. i thought you were saying mysql. _every_ host on the planet has mysql. even yahoo.
[02:12] <Snippy> yep
[02:12] <cafuego> windex: yeah
[02:12] <Stormx> windex: Except MS
[02:12] <Snippy> snippy@snippydesigns.com   add me ;)
[02:12] <Stormx> Snippy: OK Will do ^_^
[02:12] <nickrud> Snippy, what plugin do I need for your site ;(
[02:12] <Snippy> :)
[02:12] <Snippy> no plugin? :o
[02:12] <desrt> Stormx; boycott msn
[02:12] <Snippy> its just.. a picture?
[02:12] <spike> it needs java plugin
[02:12] <Stormx> desrt: Haha.
[02:12] <cafuego> desrt: You seem to be awfully busy boycotting
[02:13] <windex> Stormx, a lot of microsoft IIS hosting providers provide mysql as well, since it's free and sql server costs money.
[02:13] <Snippy> o_O
[02:13] <factotum> java...ew
[02:13] <Stormx> desrt: I know, but everyone I know uses it.
[02:13] <nickrud> ah, ok, I'll get around to that soon enough, never mind :)
[02:13] <desrt> cafuego; i don't like bad things
[02:13] <Stormx> Bah, where is GAIM...
[02:13] <spike> snippy: you have java crap at the bottom
[02:14] <factotum> someones been using dreamweaver hehe
[02:14] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:14] <Snippy> uh yeah..
[02:14] <Snippy> right
[02:14] <Snippy> lol
[02:14] <Stormx> Snippy! I'm ashamed with you!
[02:14] <Snippy> lol
[02:14] <Stormx> W3C XHTML Validator Pro - ALL THE WAY!
[02:14] <cafuego> desrt: boycott people who ask for boycotts
[02:15] <Stormx> (And bluefish on ubuntu)
[02:15] <windex> factotum, my business partner is a print designer, more than a web designer. he uses dreamweaver, and it does what he needs it to do and looks good. :P
[02:15] <desrt> cafuego; some boycotts are called for
[02:15] <factotum> thats good
[02:15] <spike> my site is built with dreamwevaer also :)
[02:15] <Stormx> BAH!!!!
[02:15] <ColonelKernel> high fiber diets work well too
[02:15] <windex> factotum, on the other hand, i have to write the code under it. thus: dreamweaver sucks.
[02:15] <Stormx> HAND CODE DAMN YOU!
[02:15] <spike> :)
[02:15] <factotum> exactly
[02:15] <nickrud> most, if you look hard enough (my political comment of the month)
[02:15] <Snippy> as I said o_O this page is fastly build oO
[02:15] <cafuego> desrt: true, but politics and boycotting the US isn't topical here.
[02:15] <Stormx> It had better be XHTML Transition - at least!
[02:16] <Snippy> the page behind this one.. the locked one is much better:P
[02:16] <desrt> cafuego; and where do you live?
[02:16] <factotum> works for some, causes seizures for others
[02:16] <nickrud> if I may, cafuego lives in the antipodes :)
[02:17] <Stormx> I think i'm gonna learn Python
[02:17] <Stormx> I know PHP inside out now.
[02:17] <factotum> our design dept also has dreamweaver, i just treat them as mockups when i get them and start from scratch
[02:17] <factotum> i like perl
[02:17] <Snippy> SOME of my works.. http://redclaw-base.com/files/dossier.zip
[02:17] <factotum> or as some call it, that damn pos
[02:18] <Stormx> Snippy: Hey man, fancy designing commercially?
[02:18] <Stormx> Snippy: Me, and three other people, are gonna be part of a Web Design company.
[02:18] <Snippy> already got paid to do stuff like that..
[02:18] <Snippy> but..
[02:18] <Stormx> Oh.
[02:18] <Stormx> ^_^
[02:18] <Stormx> Wel
[02:19] <Stormx> its been at a standstill for a couple of months now
[02:19] <Snippy> you know.. I'm going to school and next year I'll be in a special art school.. 2 years then I'm going for Media Designer
[02:19] <spike> i should be leaving. i've been vc++ developer for 6 years. but i like ubuntu ;)
[02:19] <Stormx> vc++?
[02:19] <Stormx> Visual C++?
[02:19] <factotum> vis c eh?
[02:19] <spike> yes
[02:19] <factotum> eech
[02:19] <Snippy> heh
[02:19] <Stormx> ^_^ I have NEVER heard of that
[02:20] <Snippy> so anyone checked my works?
[02:20] <Snippy> :o
[02:20] <cappiz> someone here that might know why i dont get audio through freenx ?
[02:20] <Joose^> hey if i have a extern modem like Us Robotics for serial or com port. .. does ubuntu check it?
[02:20] <Stormx> Snippy, hang on....
[02:20] <Snippy> okay ^
[02:20] <windex> spike, you'll find that writing code for X under GTK, Glade is somewhat usable for interfaces. :)
[02:20] <nickrud> Joose^, yes, ubuntu should find it
[02:20] <windex> spike, but not even close to MSVC++/Borland.
[02:20] <spike> well, i am not advertising anything. it just paid my salary
[02:21] <nickrud> Joose^, when you run sudo pppconfig to configure your modem link to the net
[02:21] <spike> spike.nopastudio.net
[02:21] <Stormx> Bah
[02:21] <Stormx> I wish I made money
[02:21] <Stormx> But im 14 >_>
[02:21] <Stormx> I can't get real jobs
[02:21] <Joose^> nickrud thax.. but i should be connect to internet not? to ubuntu find it, but how i will connect it?
[02:21] <Snippy> Stormx, dont wonder if the names are crapy for the pics   lol
[02:21] <windex> i was 13-14 when i started using linux. i am now 24. :P
[02:21] <Stormx> ^_^
[02:21] <Stormx> windex: What do you do?
[02:22] <spike> i am from bulgaria. it is easy to find nice job these days with php and java only
[02:22] <nickrud> Joose^, sudo pppconfig (from a terminal) will truly be your friend for connecting to the net
[02:22] <spike> and some .net probably
[02:22] <nickrud> meh
[02:23] <spike> me started with red hat 5.0 and i did not like it
[02:23] <windex> Stormx, well, up until last friday i was the admin/developer/unix god at a midsized telecommunications company. now they've run out of money, so i'm working as a consultant, full time. i'd spam my url and junk, but a) that's bad and b) my web designing business partner has been too busy to finish our site, while working on customer sites.
[02:23] <cafuego> nickrud: Nah
[02:23] <Joose^> nickrud ah oka, thax.. yeah 'cause now i'm on dialup now.. and i cann't configured the damm modem..
[02:23] <Snippy> I started on linux with suse 8.2
[02:23] <Snippy> oh my..
[02:23] <Snippy> lol
[02:23] <nickrud> cafuego, thanks
[02:23] <cafuego> nickrud: I got distracted by shiny things ;-)
[02:23] <Snippy> switched around on the distris
[02:23] <Snippy> then got back to windows
[02:23] <Snippy> and then redhat 9
[02:23] <Snippy> 2 weeks
[02:23] <Snippy> back to windows
[02:23] <Snippy> now since few days ubuntu
[02:23] <Snippy> never back to windows again
[02:23] <ColonelKernel> well, I guess thats it, im sticking with ubuntu for desktop and centos for server - but I wish someone would tell me the patches that ubuntu uses on a stock kernel to make it ubuntu-compatible
[02:24] <ColonelKernel> Snippy, never heard of dual boot?
[02:24] <nickrud> I do love to peck at shiny things, to my own detriment :)
[02:24] <Snippy> stuff changed.. I just used windows for the games.. but now that I can play em with cedega 4.4 I dun care bout windows
[02:24] <Snippy> sure I heard of it
[02:24] <Snippy> even used it
[02:24] <windex> ColonelKernel, erm. you should be able to build a kernel from the kernel source that works with ubuntu. just make sure you enable things for your hardware, hotplug support for hotplug, etc.
[02:24] <Snippy> but .. yea takes too much space:P
[02:24] <Xenguy> Snippy: maybe 'qemu' also(?)
[02:24] <Snippy> ?
[02:25] <Xenguy> apt-cache show qemu
[02:25] <Stormx> I love ubuntu
[02:25] <Stormx> its so.... usuable
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> windex, nah, device-mapper doesnt work when you do that, theres ubuntu-specific patches somewhere
[02:25] <Stormx> I only use Windows for gaming now.
[02:25] <_Moz_> usable
[02:25] <_Moz_> stable
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> Stormx, me too, and yahoo webcam
[02:25] <spike> radio also
[02:25] <_Moz_> gameable
[02:25] <Stormx> usable, stable, user friendly, DAMN EASY TO INSTALL THINGS, supported, open source, awesome community
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> if gaim-vv ever makes 2 way yahoo webcam work, ill leave windows entirely
[02:26] <Stormx> You just don't get that with windows
[02:26] <_Moz_> funniable
[02:26] <Snippy> hmmmmmm
[02:26] <Stormx> Microsoft are all like "We are inovative" and stuff
[02:26] <Snippy> Xenguy not sure if qemu works like that..
[02:26] <Stormx> but they never say why
[02:26] <nickrud> ColonelKernel, if an implementation is choking you, look for another.
[02:26] <windex> ColonelKernel, hrm. uh, those are redhat supplied patches.
[02:26] <direwolf> in soviet russia, windows gets you!
[02:26] <Snippy> did anyone heard about 'vista' aka Longhorn.. what features it has??
[02:26] <Snippy> oh my..
[02:26] <Snippy> ok it MAY be a good OS.. BUT!!
[02:26] <spike> i did installed it yesteday
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> windex, thats odd, vanilla kernels work fine on fedora
[02:26] <windex> ColonelKernel, http://sources.redhat.com/dm/
[02:27] <Stormx> Snippy: Yep, I downloaded it.
[02:27] <_Moz_> News from Internet: Windows Vista will have a shell so powerfull as bash
[02:27] <Snippy> the function that it checks video files if they aren illegal or stuff like that really sucks
[02:27] <spike> vista is soo nice
[02:27] <_Moz_> auhuahuhahuahuahuahuahuhuahauhu
[02:27] <windex> ColonelKernel, does fedora use device mapper? :P
[02:27] <Stormx> Snippy: But I don't have a DVD Drive.
[02:27] <ColonelKernel> windex, I do not beleive so.
[02:27] <Joose^> well, i have 2 weeks tried to install the damn modem and i still cann't ... damn dial-up
[02:27] <direwolf> what it was supposed to have and what it will have are two totally separate things
[02:27] <Snippy> vista is nice yes..
[02:27] <Joose^> xD
[02:27] <direwolf> and no, its not
[02:27] <Stormx> Snippy: Agreed. They did a big crack down on piracy. Gets rid of rights though, doesn't it.
[02:27] <Snippy> but this "dont remember the name" is soooo not nice oO
[02:27] <direwolf> its a waste
[02:27] <avanspronsen> Snippy: Beta 2 will intoruce more of the newer features
[02:27] <Joose^> ohh sorry 1 week
[02:27] <Snippy> yea..
[02:27] <Stormx> Snippy: The new machines will come with a chip that directly checks stuff
[02:27] <nickrud> Joose^, it's really a modem at the end of a cable?
[02:27] <direwolf> ubuntu pwns it
[02:27] <windex> ColonelKernel, that'd explain why. i know centos uses device-mapper, and it's based on RHEL. i (think) i used those patches.
[02:28] <Stormx> What about IE7 though?
[02:28] <Stormx> It looks good to me.
[02:28] <Snippy> thats why I basically took a breath and switched to linux again
[02:28] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:28] <windex> ColonelKernel, does that help you in your quest to enjoy ubuntu slightly more? :P
[02:28] <Stormx> PNG Alpha channel support!!!!
[02:28] <direwolf> ie7 is a joke
[02:28] <Joose^> nickrud hehe yeah...
[02:28] <Stormx> PNG ALPHA CHANNEL SUPPORT GOD DAMN YOU!!!
[02:28] <avanspronsen> Stormx: IE7 is like firefox light, it doesn't even compare
[02:28] <spike> yes, but it is a player
[02:28] <direwolf> they *might* get around to supporting cdd properly (how much you wanna bet that wont happen)
[02:28] <ColonelKernel> windex, i will have to try those out on the latest vanilla and see what happens
[02:28] <windex> in other news, microsoft is going to base its new web browser on khtml ... oh wait, someone else did that.
[02:28] <Joose^> ie7 the imitation of mozilla
[02:28] <direwolf> css*
[02:28] <spike> and 90% of the people use it
[02:29] <direwolf> ie7 = joke
[02:29] <dock> anyone know why my board with turn on with one power supply, but not the other.  both work.
[02:29] <Stormx> avanspronsen: But most people use IE.
[02:29] <nickrud> Joose^, then sudo pppconfig, and point it at the right device: /dev/ttyS0 for com1:, /dev/ttyS1 for com2:
[02:29] <spike> the days of netspace 4.x are gone
[02:29] <Stormx> I use firefox
[02:29] <Stormx> I use Opera on windows though
[02:29] <avanspronsen> Stormx: yes, they will like it, people in the know won;t even bother though
[02:29] <Stormx> Firefox is fucking slow on my windows PC.
[02:29] <direwolf> on windows i use mozilla suite
[02:29] <Snippy> I even heard that intel and amd   MAY be implementing this stuff into the DIE.. that it checks files if they're digitally signed etc.. that would be the end for piracy I guess :(
[02:29] <windex> ColonelKernel, according to redhat, btw, kernels 2.6 integrate device mapper
[02:29] <windex> ColonelKernel, it's in the logical volume management config.
[02:29] <Snippy> take this with 1 grain of salt.. its a rumor
[02:29] <Stormx> Snippy: That might take maybe 24 hours for the hacking community to fix.
[02:30] <spike> snippy, piracy will never die in easter eaurope :)
[02:30] <nickrud> easter?
[02:30] <spike> exactly
[02:30] <Stormx> Snippy: How can they stop it?
[02:30] <Snippy> I wouldnt be that sure.. if its on the DIE ??
[02:30] <f_newton> eastern europe...
[02:30] <spike> reastern
[02:30] <spike> sorry :)
[02:30] <Joose^> nickrud.. ok i will do that.. thax ... i tried to configured but in a step "make 537" the terminal print me that autoconf.c doesn't exist in lib/modules
[02:30] <NiJr> there are any way to reset the systray ? , the apps now aren't show there
[02:30] <nickrud> heh, we do do easter diff, I guess :)
[02:30] <spike> :)
[02:30] <f_newton> why becuase its full of dishonest immoral bastards?
[02:30] <Snippy> well ok there will maybe a method to fake the files and get em a digital signature.. but still
[02:31] <Stormx> Anyway. I can really see ubuntu becoming the best linux suite out there. Not even Fedora Core can keep up.
[02:31] <direwolf> theres always a way
[02:31] <Stormx> And I want to help ubuntu as best I can ^_^
[02:31] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:31] <nickrud> Joose^, make?
[02:31] <Snippy> Stormx, ubuntu, isnt it already the best ;)
[02:31] <Stormx> cauego: Eastern europe has limited sea for ships x.X
[02:31] <cafuego> Copying data is hardly piracy. Piracy involves stealing, pillaging, raping and killing.
[02:31] <spike> yes, they could come to your coast to get to knoe them better
[02:31] <windex> cafuego, and ships. and ocean. and pirates!
[02:31] <Stormx> And they can't stop it, can they.
[02:32] <Snippy> cracking data, isnt that piracy too ? ^^
[02:32] <nickrud> heh, tell that to the Rus, they knew rivers as well :)
[02:32] <Stormx> I mean, you just get round the damn MIME types, eh?
[02:32] <cafuego> Don't be suckered into using the enemies terminology.
[02:32] <NiJr> how can i restart notification area in taskbar? , now it dont work for me
[02:32] <Stormx> NiJr: Just restart X
[02:32] <Stormx> Ctrl + Alt + Delete.
[02:32] <Joose^> nickrud yeah
[02:32] <Stormx> *Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[02:32] <Joose^> i have a lag
[02:32] <NiJr> i dont want to restart apps :_(
[02:32] <Stormx> I'm still in windows mode ^_&
[02:32] <NiJr> other way?
[02:33] <f_newton> the pirates definition of piracy... how quaint
[02:33] <Stormx> NiJr: It needs to reload gnome to do that.
[02:33] <Stormx> NiJr: So just save what you're doing and restart X
[02:33] <f_newton> thats like a government's definition of honesty
[02:33] <Snippy> well.. this is a serious question.. who likes to download warez? cracks? etc.. who does it?
[02:33] <Snippy> I do.
[02:33] <Stormx> I do.
[02:34] <cafuego> f_newton: the mpaa/riaa only call it piracy because of the negative cconnotations. By going along with that you give them the upper hand.
[02:34] <Stormx> a good 50% of my music is pirated
[02:34] <NiJr> there are thinks that i cant close
[02:34] <Kyral> You have got to be kidding me
[02:34] <Snippy> software SHOULD be free.
[02:34] <Stormx> not to mention all my anime except for Akira
[02:34] <NiJr> thanks Stormx
[02:34] <nickrud> Joose^, make is something I've not seen as an error for pppconfig since day one, so, you have problems I haven't seen before
[02:34] <ubuntu> omygod
[02:34] <Kyral> there isn't a command line tool to prepend lines to files?
[02:34] <cafuego> f_newton: I prefer "alternative distribution"  ;-)
[02:34] <Snippy> 100% of my music IS pirated. 100% of my apps (I mean windows apps:P) and games..
[02:34] <Stormx> xD
[02:34] <Stormx> Hahaha
[02:34] <f_newton> whatever... you still take for free what people work their lives on in order to feed their families
[02:34] <Stormx> My CSE HTML Validator Pro is pirated
[02:34] <cafuego> f_newton: No, I don't.
[02:34] <Stormx> And I went to update it
[02:35] <cafuego> f_newton: I use GPL software.
[02:35] <Stormx> and it stored the damn name of the pirated version in the command line
[02:35] <cafuego> f_newton: And the Adobe stuff I use I actually paid for.
[02:35] <Stormx> A little HTML injection later and I deleted all records in that table xD
[02:35] <chad> heyas all
[02:35] <Joose^> nickrud.. but that is tried to install the drivers of the modem.. i haven't installed yet
[02:35] <farruinn> f_newton: you're implying they're going hungry because he pirates software?
[02:35] <Xenguy> Snippy: hrm, since finding more and more free software, it's become a relief that I don't have to be concerned about downloading and cracking proprietary software
[02:35] <nickrud> I want the gpl to be observed: by definition, that means I should observe any other license, no matter how reprehensible
[02:35] <windex> Snippy, your in a chat room full of programmers who respect copyright laws. talking about IP theft in the channel is likely to make people not like you, even if they do think what the riaa/mpaa is doing these days is stupid. :D *ahem*
[02:35] <f_newton> farruinn, mostly its the small people who are hurt not the industry itself
[02:35] <Stormx> windex: I'm a programmer and I don't care about copyright laws
[02:36] <f_newton> the ones who can least afford it
[02:36] <nickrud> Joose^, ? if the modem is an external, you need _no_ other driver.
[02:36] <Snippy> maybe in those times its not really right to download software for free that you HAVE to pay for
[02:36] <Snippy> BUT
[02:36] <farruinn> Anyone around know how to get an eMac modem to work?  I've tried, but I always get "connection script failed"
[02:36] <cafuego> f_newton: The ptoblem is the INDUSTRY is hurting 1) the consumer and 2) the small people.
[02:36] <Snippy> software should be free..
[02:36] <windex> Stormx, okay. when you write something GPL'd and release it, then microsoft integrates it into IE8, you'll be fine with that. :)
[02:36] <cafuego> f_newton: But because the industry can scream louder, the rest isn't heard.
[02:36] <f_newton> people should be rewarded for their hard work time and effort
[02:36] <Snippy> and anyway.. if I like a game, I go in the shop and buy it, just to SHOW the company that I like it
[02:36] <Snippy> I try the soft before I buy it
[02:36] <jrattner> can i install debian packages in ubuntu?
[02:36] <Stormx> windex: xD. They wouldn't, though, would they?
[02:36] <f_newton> this is a bit off topic right?
[02:37] <direwolf> bit
[02:37] <cafuego> f_newton: yeah :-)
[02:37] <f_newton> jrattner, yes mostly
[02:37] <Joose^> nickrud yeah, i know but now i have a pci modem
[02:37] <Stormx> windex: But if its under GPL, its fine
[02:37] <windex> Stormx, without copyright laws they could. the GPL depends *highly* on copyright law as it currently exists to function.
[02:37] <Joose^> i will buy the external
[02:37] <wooty> hy
[02:37] <nickrud> Joose^, you bas*#D :)
[02:37] <wooty> can someone help me please
[02:37] <jrattner> f_newton, using apt-get or whatever?
[02:37] <f_newton> yes jrattner
[02:37] <wooty> anyone please
[02:37] <Stormx> wooty: problem?
[02:37] <Joose^> nickrud hahaha :P
[02:37] <Snippy> I as student wont go in the shop "whoa cool, need to buy etc.." no.. I dont have the money to throw it away like that.. software IS NOT cheap.. it was way cheaper years ago.. right?
[02:37] <windex> Stormx, without a strong copyright system, the GPL license may as well be a public domain license.
[02:38] <chad> where is a good place to start learning the shell commands in linux?  man pages are good but, i wanna practise some
[02:38] <Snippy> I download it first, try it, study it hard and THEN if I really like it, I may consider buying it
[02:38] <jrattner> f_newton, ubuntu is the only distro that worked on my laptop, im brand new to it and the apt-get style of packaging any suggested readings?
[02:38] <Stormx> chad: Use FTP.
[02:38] <Stormx> wooty: What is your problem?
[02:38] <chad> ftp?
[02:38] <farruinn> chad: search google for shell tutorials or something, there are lots out there
[02:38] <wooty> well
[02:38] <Stormx> chad: Nevermind, then.
[02:38] <nickrud> Snippy, software has never been cheap: I spent over $200US in 1982 to get a decent implementation of forth
[02:38] <wooty> its really weird
[02:38] <wooty> i used the guide to install ubuntu from hd
[02:38] <windex> Snippy, actually software is a lot cheaper now.
[02:38] <wooty> whitout using a cd
[02:38] <Stormx> wooty: yes?
[02:39] <wooty> because i dont have cd burner
[02:39] <Snippy> oh you think?
[02:39] <Stormx> wooty: WTF!
[02:39] <direwolf> in 1982 it was a (comparatively) rare commodity
[02:39] <wooty> everything was working fine
[02:39] <Snippy> take this example:
[02:39] <Stormx> wooty: oh right. OK.........
[02:39] <wooty> but when i go to ubuntu install
[02:39] <f_newton> uh someone tell jrattner where to get info on apt-get
[02:39] <wooty> it says comresion file is invalid or something
[02:39] <spike> jrattner: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[02:39] <wooty> and system gets locked up
[02:39] <nickrud> !find forth
[02:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'forth' (4 shown): gforth ;; kforth ;; pforth ;; yforth.
[02:39] <direwolf> man apt-get
[02:39] <f_newton> !apt-get
[02:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:39] <nickrud> heh
[02:39] <Snippy> few years ago, here in my country we had another currency.. software was like 1000 LUF .. (+ - 20$ for a high end game)
[02:39] <Stormx> wooty: You're probably better off ordering a CD, or getting someone else to burn a CD for you.
[02:40] <jonathan_> can anyone help me switch from gnome to xfce?
[02:40] <Snippy> NOW with the EURO currency the price is doubled or triple
[02:40] <farruinn> jrattner: there should be a link on that wiki page to the Debian APT Howto, I highly suggest reading it
[02:40] <wooty> the problem is that i downloaded 600 mb
[02:40] <Stormx> wooty: HDD installation from a windows system is NOT recommended.
[02:40] <Snippy> then dont tell me it got cheaper.
[02:40] <f_newton> did you see that url there jrattner ?
[02:40] <wooty> and i really dont want em to go to waste
[02:40] <windex> Snippy, congratulations, your software prices match US software prices.
[02:40] <jonathan_> i installed xfce4 and all dependencies with synaptic
[02:40] <wooty> be right back storm
[02:40] <jrattner> farruinn, where is the link?
[02:40] <Stormx> kay
[02:40] <f_newton> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:40] <f_newton> * _Moz_
[02:40] <Snippy> now its like 60$ for a high end game..
[02:41] <direwolf> jonathan next time you login choose xfce session
[02:41] <Stormx> yes.
[02:41] <windex> Snippy, that has _nothing_ to do with software costs, btw. it has a lot more to do with exchange rates. the average game is in the $45-50 USD range.
[02:41] <f_newton> jrattner,   http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:41] <direwolf> on the login splash click session, choose xfce session
[02:41] <Snippy> and I just get 50$ / month where I must live with
[02:41] <windex> Snippy, for consoles, that can quickly be $55-60.
[02:41] <jonathan_> there will be an option on the login screen?
[02:41] <farruinn> jrattner: start from that link f_newton gave you, there should be a link to the Debian howto on that page
[02:41] <Snippy> no I mean PC games
[02:41] <Snippy> not consoles
[02:41] <Stormx> jonatha_: Yes, there is.
[02:41] <direwolf> if you installed through synaptic there should be
[02:41] <Snippy> I dont play on consoles:P
[02:41] <Stormx> Snippy: DIE DIE DIE
[02:41] <Stormx> Hey pow3r
[02:41] <Snippy> Stormx: WHY WHY WHY
[02:42] <jonathan_> thanks i'll try that!! should i remove gnome?
[02:42] <direwolf> if you only downloaded the package thatd be different
[02:42] <direwolf> NO
[02:42] <windex> Snippy, well, the thing is, games are a special exception where art has to be thrown in. new games take a lot more creative talent to produce than, say, pong.
[02:42] <Stormx> jonathan_: NO NO NO!
[02:42] <farruinn> any mac users here have their modems working correctly?
[02:42] <jonathan_> ok...
[02:42] <Stormx> farruinn: you mean on ubuntu?
[02:42] <Stormx> jonathan_ There is absolutely no need, they can co-exist!
[02:42] <direwolf> in fact when after you login to your xfce session you should enable starting gnome support
[02:42] <windex> Snippy, compare billing systems, for example. MASS 90, an old unix billing system a lot of small companies used, cost thousands of dollars. now you can go buy software like QuickBooks which has most of the same features for $400.
[02:43] <jonathan_> how should i enable gnome support?
[02:43] <Stormx> windex: Technology has got cheaper. You're point?
[02:43] <nickrud> windex, not to mention the Xenix (for example) up front costs
[02:43] <farruinn> Stormx: yeah, I'm trying on ubuntu now, but if you know how to on other distros it might be of help
[02:43] <windex> Stormx, he's saying software has gotten more expensive.
[02:43] <windex> nickrud, right.
[02:43] <direwolf> on the xfce panel click the lil scissors/pencil icon
[02:43] <dbernar1> your point, youre is short for you are.
[02:43] <Stormx> windex: rofl.
[02:43] <Snippy> Windex, see, 3 years ago, what did we had? high end games.. new games coming out every month.. and for THAT time it was really high-end and it involved much work too.. artwork etc.. for THAT time it was new etc..
[02:43] <direwolf> then choose sessions and startup then go to advanced tab
[02:44] <windex> Snippy, you are not complaining about the price of software, still. you are complaining about politics and exchange rates.
[02:44] <Stormx> farruinn: No idea. They should auto-detect it. What other distros?
[02:44] <jonathan_> ok thanks much!
[02:44] <Snippy> this may be, but the end effect is the same.. I have to give more money for a game than 3 years b4
[02:44] <Quest-Master> The enormous and overdone price-tags on lots of software not worth that much are sometimes just asking to be pirated. :P
[02:44] <jrattner> Are there any good sources i should put in my sources.list?
[02:44] <Stormx> Snippy: Most technology has got cheaper, some has got more expensive.
[02:45] <Snippy> this just doesnt work if I just get 50$/month
[02:45] <farruinn> Stormx: ok, well my eMac's modem isn't autodetected, I don't know what to do about that
[02:45] <Stormx> jrattner: Hang on.
[02:45] <windex> Stormx, he's not even talking about technology getting more expensive, he's talking about his countries favorable exchange rate going down the tubes. :)
[02:45] <farruinn> I've tried using /dev/ttys0 /dev/ttys1 etc. but I always get "script failed"
[02:45] <Stormx> jrattner: Still hanging in there?
[02:46] <Snippy> windex, that may be right
[02:46] <Snippy> but still.. I have to give more money
[02:46] <jrattner> Stormx, ok :  )
[02:46] <direwolf> you know if we had implemented a dual exchange rate with china we could cut the trade deficit (with china) in half?
[02:46] <windex> k. :)
[02:46] <Snippy> so my way to get the software if to download it!
[02:46] <Snippy> cuz I just dont have the money
[02:46] <Stormx> jrattner: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/330944
[02:46] <direwolf> -had
[02:46] <f_newton> bush doesnt care about that cuz he'll be out office by the time the us economy collapses and he'll blame it on some democrat
[02:46] <Stormx> jrattner: That should do the trick.
[02:47] <Snippy> and when I like a software, say Photoshop CS2 I buy it.. I bought Creative Suite 2.. wasnt cheap.. but I bought it.. to support the company because I work with the soft
[02:47] <Stormx> Snippy: HAHA OWNED
[02:47] <Stormx> OK, about software getting more expensive.
[02:47] <Stormx> Yes, it happens
[02:47] <windex> Snippy, then use open source. In small countries, big business like the BSA, RIAA, and MPAA have more sway, and can throw you in jail much easier.
[02:47] <Stormx> With the p2p revolution, more software is pirated
[02:47] <Stormx> so less people buy
[02:47] <Snippy> but why buy 2 games.. test em, they dont work , and jsut waste 120$? no thanks.
[02:47] <Stormx> so prices have to go up.
[02:48] <Xenguy> chad: this refcard looks interesting: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/
[02:48] <Snippy> Stormx, thats right.. but WHY is this revolution ?
[02:48] <cafuego> Stormx: That would explain why profits for developers have increased then eh?
[02:48] <jrattner> Stormx, sick i figured i had the abbreviated version :   ) Now for my next question lets say i wanted to install a program such as gkrellm, Would it be best to use apt-get install gkrellm or use synpatic to search for it
[02:48] <cafuego> Stormx: Nice excuse, but reality doesn't seem to match.
[02:48] <Snippy> cafuego, they have?
[02:48] <direwolf> personally i have no need for priated software...just about everything i need even in windows is available as gpl or  freeware
[02:48] <Stormx> cauego: In most cases, yes.
[02:49] <wooty___> hy im back
[02:49] <jrattner> Stormx, should i include the numbers in my sources.list?
[02:49] <direwolf> windows though , i might pirate just for fun
[02:49] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:49] <cafuego> Snippy: yes, MPAA/RIAA members have seen profits increase, despite shipping far less units.
[02:49] <Xenguy> jrattner: learn both tools, and then choose your favourite :-)
[02:49] <Stormx> jrattner: No.
[02:49] <Snippy> cafuego, how come?
[02:49] <jrattner> Xenguy, is there any advantage to either tool?
[02:49] <wooty___> storm
[02:49] <Snippy> cafuego, how can that be possible? ^^
[02:49] <jrattner> Xenguy, I alaways used slackware before this
[02:49] <Stormx> jrattner: For software downloading, use synaptic, wherever possible
[02:49] <wooty___> i know its not recommended but i would really like if u could help me to install it
[02:49] <cafuego> Snippy: THAT is the question, eh?
[02:49] <Xenguy> jrattner: one is command-line, and one is a GUI
[02:49] <Snippy> cafuego: yes.
[02:49] <direwolf> think about it
[02:50] <jrattner> synpatic is just a gui for apt-get?
[02:50] <cafuego> Snippy: They reported it as "heavy losses due to coyright infringement"
[02:50] <jrattner> just making sure
[02:50] <wooty___> storm
[02:50] <Xenguy> jrattner: basically, yes
[02:50] <Stormx> jrattner: Think so.
[02:50] <Stormx> wooty__, yes?
[02:50] <jrattner> this was the only distro that would work on my laptop
[02:50] <Stormx> ^_^
[02:50] <jrattner> so im forced to learn and love it
[02:50] <Stormx> glad to hear it.
[02:50] <Stormx> Ubuntu = awesome
[02:50] <windex> cafuego, developer salaries have increased, but developer quality of life has lowered a lot, imho.
[02:50] <wooty___> storm so can u help me install it from windows please?
[02:50] <direwolf> bands/artists would be better off telling to people to dl their music, dl their albums whatever ...but if you do, buy a tshirt or some such thing ...
[02:50] <Stormx> If you can't use apt-get, download the .deb package and use dpkg -i <package name>
[02:50] <Xenguy> jrattner: it's a very nice distribution IMO
[02:50] <jrattner> Stormx, I like it so far, its great with hardware
[02:50] <cafuego> windex: it compiles, ship it
[02:51] <Snippy> cafuego: that doesnt fit in my brain.. less software is sold and developers get more money? something must be damn wrong in this world
[02:51] <direwolf> they get what $0.20/unit sold
[02:51] <jrattner> Xenguy, out of curiosity how come I cant su
[02:51] <Stormx> jrattner: Dude, you can't imagine how easy it is to get and install software!
[02:51] <wooty___> someone here can help me install ubuntu whitout using cd from windows
[02:51] <cafuego> Snippy: I'm talking about music/movies, not software.
[02:51] <wooty___> i already got all the config but i got some problems
[02:51] <direwolf> hahaha jk ...i think its like $ 1...depends on their contract but you get the idea
[02:51] <Stormx> wooty___ never tried it!
[02:51] <jrattner> wooty, anything compared to slackwares package management must be easier
[02:51] <direwolf> ack
[02:51] <Stormx> wooty___ it is going to be VERY differcult.
[02:51] <Xenguy> jrattner: Ubu takes a different approach to the old 'root' concept :-)
[02:52] <wooty___> i have all the config done
[02:52] <Xenguy> !sudo
[02:52] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:52] <wooty___> i just have to fix the problem
[02:52] <wooty___> and it will install alone
[02:52] <Snippy> cafuego, thats almost the same principe isnt it? they make a movie get LOTS of money, nobody watches it cuz they all dled it.. how come they get more money than b4?
[02:52] <Stormx> No idea.
[02:52] <wooty___> look my problem is that it says that the compression file is invalid
[02:52] <wooty___> and it locks up
[02:52] <wooty___> i tryed to make it bin
[02:52] <wooty___> but it didnt change at all
[02:53] <cafuego> Snippy: I think these days people don't weatch movuies becuase most movies they make these days are REALLY REALLY BAD.
[02:53] <direwolf> we also have to remember that all the figures we get are from the mapp/riaa anyway
[02:53] <direwolf> "studies" paid for by them etc
[02:53] <cafuego> Snippy: That's certainly the reason i spend $2 at the videos tore and not $40 at the cinema.
[02:53] <wooty___> i used the guide from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[02:53] <direwolf> i wouldnt trust a word of it
[02:53] <Snippy> cafuego, well.. that depends.. person A like "The ring" person B dislikes it..  hmm
[02:53] <Stormx> Guys, competion/ease of production and design pushes prices down! piracy/less customers pushes prices up!
[02:53] <jrattner1> Does synpatic and ksynpatic run off the same sources file?
[02:54] <Stormx> Yes.
[02:54] <cafuego> Stormx: Adam Smith was on crack. Don't believe that shit.
[02:54] <Stormx> rofl.
[02:54] <direwolf> hryk
[02:54] <wooty___> someone here knows how to install ubuntu from windows whitout burining it on a cd?
[02:54] <wooty___> i really could use some help
[02:54] <Stormx> dude
[02:54] <cafuego> AN economic theory based on infinte growth with limited resources is inherently flawed.
[02:54] <Stormx> just get a friend to burn a CD
[02:54] <Stormx> or get a CD burner.
[02:54] <Stormx> their dead cheap.
[02:54] <nickrud> wooty, rumor has it that is not possible
[02:54] <wooty___> not in south america
[02:54] <wooty___> nick
[02:54] <wooty___> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[02:54] <direwolf> rumor haha
[02:54] <wooty___> read that
[02:55] <wooty___> it is posible
[02:55] <Snippy> ah well.. back to NTFS -> ext3 lol
[02:55] <Stormx> xD
[02:55] <cafuego> wooty___: Can you netboot that machine and do you have a spare linux box?
[02:55] <direwolf> snippy borrow a hdfrom a fellow student
[02:55] <nickrud> not something I'd recommend as possible :)
[02:55] <direwolf> make things easy on yourself
[02:55] <Stormx> I've gotta go.
[02:55] <Stormx> Its almost 2am
[02:55] <Snippy> I dont know anyone with a 120GB HDD oO
[02:55] <wooty___> i dont know what u mean by netboot and i dont have a spare linux box
[02:55] <wooty___> im just going to try it on my client comp
[02:55] <Stormx> I have a 40 and an 80
[02:55] <wooty___> and see how it goes
[02:55] <cafuego> wooty___: Then you're SOL.
[02:55] <Snippy> aye hardware isnt cheap here:P
[02:55] <Stormx> So thats 120 overall.
[02:56] <wooty___> sol?
[02:56] <wooty___> im a total newb
[02:56] <Snippy> stormx, come to my house :P lets backup my stuff:P
[02:56] <wooty___> in this stuff
[02:56] <Stormx> Snippy: xD
[02:56] <Stormx> OK, i'm off
[02:56] <Stormx> peace
[02:56] <wooty___> bb
[02:56] <Stormx> and lurvvvvvvvve ubuntu
[02:56] <Snippy> peace ;)
[02:56] <Stormx> cause it lurvvvvvvvvvvves you
[02:56] <Snippy> ^^
[02:56] <cafuego> Stormx: Back up 120, that leaves 40. Resize ntfs to 60 afetr doing the backup; create 100 EXT3. Copy data from ntfs to ext3, delete ntfs, expand ext3, copy back data from 120GB externals.
[02:56] <jrattner1> Stormx, when pasting what you sent me on pastebin into my sources.list synaptic gets angry saying it cant stat source package list and the addresses
[02:56] <wooty___> someone please help me
[02:57] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:57] <cafuego> Stormx: Takes some time, but will work.
[02:57] <wooty___> stuff here in south america isnt as cheap as in there
[02:57] <wooty___> so please dont tell me to buy a burner
[02:57] <Stormx> cafuego: No need
[02:57] <cafuego> Stormx: be SURE to defrag NTFS before resizing.
[02:57] <cafuego> wooty___: Get someone to mail you a cd.
[02:58] <wooty___> mail me?
[02:58] <Snippy> cafuego, I think, youre talking to the wrong person :o
[02:58] <Snippy> but im not sure..
[02:58] <wooty___> to south america?
[02:58] <cafuego> Snippy: I might be on crack too.
[02:58] <wooty___> lol
[02:58] <Snippy> I am the one who needs to backup 120gb ntfs
[02:58] <Stormx> I have 20 gigs on drive one VFAT for win98, 20 gigs on drive one NTFS for win2k, 60gb VFAT on drive B for whatever (music, anime), 20gb drive two ext3 for ubuntu.
[02:58] <cafuego> wooty___: Yeah, why not?
[02:58] <wooty___> lol
[02:58] <cafuego> wooty___: You _DO_ have a mail service there, right?
[02:58] <Snippy> oooh Anime?
[02:58] <Snippy> :D
[02:58] <wooty___> ya
[02:58] <Stormx> <3 anime.
[02:58] <wooty___> but
[02:58] <Snippy> Anime is cool
[02:58] <wooty___> nobody will be that nice
[02:58] <wooty___> and
[02:59] <Stormx> My friend sent me FMA through the post...
[02:59] <wooty___> i really dont want to wait 2 weeks
[02:59] <wooty___> to use ubuntu
[02:59] <jrattner1> Stormx, when pasting what you sent me on pastebin into my sources.list synaptic gets angry saying it cant stat source package list and the url of several of the links included? whats your take?
[02:59] <wooty___> if not more
[02:59] <Stormx> It got there and I realised I didn't have a DVD drive.
[02:59] <wibble> wooty___: http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[02:59] <wooty___> i got the install
[02:59] <wooty___> i just really want to just
[02:59] <wooty___> install it from windows
[02:59] <Stormx> jrattner1: You're bound to get errors. Did you paste everything correctly, without the numbers? Errors is normal, Seveas tells me.
[02:59] <wooty___> anyone know how?
[02:59] <Stormx> wooty: Yeh I know
[03:00] <Snippy> cafuego, so wait, the method is.. if I have 1 GB free on my ntfs partition.. I resize it.. make a ext3 one with the 1 gb.. take 1gb data from the ntfs one put it to the ext3 one.. resize ntfs.. make ext3 bigger again.. etc... ???
[03:00] <Stormx> wooty___ what's your address?
[03:00] <Stormx> I'll mail you a frickin' CD
[03:00] <jrattner1> Stormx, yes i pasted it without the numbers and its there correctly
[03:00] <wooty___> no
[03:00] <wooty___> dont
[03:00] <wooty___> thats not the problem
[03:00] <wooty___> i just want to figure out how to install it from windows
[03:00] <Stormx> jrattner1: When you open it, close the box with errors, do you get packages?
[03:00] <Stormx> wooty___: YOU CANT!
[03:00] <wooty___> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html
[03:00] <wooty___> what is that all about then
[03:00] <Stormx> wooty___: It needs to frickin' change the MBR!
[03:01] <Stormx> Thats bullshit
[03:01] <Stormx> Get a cd
[03:01] <wooty___> changing the mbr is bad?
[03:01] <Stormx> ^_^ and have a nice day.
[03:01] <wooty___> lol
[03:01] <jrattner1> Stormx, the next dialogue is a popup saying my package informationg is out of date
[03:01] <Stormx> no, but it needs to install GRUB
[03:01] <wooty___> i got grub
[03:01] <Stormx> jrattner1: So update it.
[03:01] <Stormx> wooty___ is it installed to MBR?
[03:01] <jrattner1> Stormx, its going it
[03:01] <Stormx> (hd0)
[03:01] <wooty___> i have no idea
[03:01] <wooty___> i just folowed the guide
[03:02] <wooty___> and did what it said
[03:02] <h08817> i need some help here
[03:02] <h08817> ndiswrapper problem
[03:02] <Stormx> wooty___: With no idea what significance each step had?
[03:02] <Stormx> xD
[03:02] <Stormx> Look, I don't know man
[03:02] <Stormx> find someone who knows
[03:02] <wooty___> lol..
[03:02] <Stormx> get someone to burn you a disk
[03:02] <jrattner1> Stormx,  I like this it found the package i was looking for, will it automaitcally check dependencies?
[03:02] <Stormx> or get a damn disk bruner.
[03:02] <wooty___> well
[03:02] <wooty___> storm
[03:02] <Snippy> ohmy.. got lot of work to do with my ntfs crap partition..
[03:02] <wooty___> can u help me turn the changes back then please
[03:02] <Stormx> jrattner1: In synaptic, yes.
[03:02] <h08817> it says cp unknown file or directory
[03:02] <wooty___> i have no idea how to do it on my own
[03:03] <Stormx> Snippy: Mounting problems? BOY DO I HAVE A SCRIPT FOR YOU SIR!
[03:03] <wooty___> im afraid i might delete something i shouldnt
[03:03] <Snippy> uh?
[03:03] <Snippy> well
[03:03] <Stormx> Snippy: I have a kickass script that mounts them automaticly, updates fstab, and adds them to your "Computer" bit
[03:03] <JaZy84> can somone help me get mp3's working
[03:03] <Snippy> Stormx: what you mean? I just want to change my NTFS to ext3 oO
[03:03] <wooty___> stormx:can u help me please or no
[03:03] <Stormx> JaZy84: Yes
[03:03] <JaZy84> when i try to play them with xmms it just freezes
[03:04] <Stormx> wooty___: No, sorry
[03:04] <h08817> can someone get me online with my ubuntu system?
[03:04] <Stormx> JaZy84: Go into preferences, change the output plugin to eSound
[03:04] <wooty___> damn
[03:04] <Stormx> JaZy84: Its as simple as that
[03:04] <Snippy> oh and btw.. I got another problem.. maybe someone can help oO
[03:04] <wooty___> so i guess no one in all the channel knows how to install from windows
[03:04] <Stormx> Snippy: xD, has it got a windows OS on i?
[03:04] <wooty___> great =/
[03:04] <JaZy84> okay hold on lemme try that
[03:04] <wooty___> 2:30 hours wasted
[03:04] <Snippy> the fonts of my system.. are not really readable very well..
[03:04] <lJlolel> you can't have desktop icons in xfce right?
[03:04] <wooty___> and probably screwed up my computer
[03:04] <Stormx> wooty___, reply to the thread.
[03:05] <Snippy> Stormx, no, just looots of files
[03:05] <direwolf> correct ljlolel
[03:05] <lJlolel> direwolf, well, i just did
[03:05] <wooty___> storm
[03:05] <Stormx> Snippy: use VFAT, not ext3.
[03:05] <direwolf> did you start nautilus?
[03:05] <Stormx> VFAT = awesome.
[03:05] <wooty___> no ofence but writing there wont help me out
[03:05] <Snippy> whats VFAT now.. oO
[03:05] <wooty___> because i have no idea how to tell them what my problem is
[03:05] <Stormx> wooty___: Why not?
[03:05] <wooty___> the solution was coming here but it didnt work out
[03:05] <cafuego> wooty___: You were told you can't install from windows. Which part of that was too hard to grasp?
[03:05] <Stormx> wooty___: Look, I don't understand you're problem either, ok?
[03:05] <Snippy> is it bad that I choose ext3 to install ubuntu on ?
[03:06] <wooty___> cafuego
[03:06] <nickrud> wooty___, maybe you can restate?
[03:06] <wooty___> yes u can
[03:06] <Stormx> wooty___: You're problem is unknown to me, try again tomorow.
[03:06] <wooty___> restate?
[03:06] <Stormx> nickrud: You are so useless xD
[03:06] <wooty___> what u mean
[03:06] <h08817> netgear wg111 usb to get online (how do i do it in linux)
[03:06] <Stormx> nah just kidding.
[03:06] <avanspronsen> Snippy: ext3 is fine
[03:06] <wooty___> ooo
[03:06] <wooty___> thats a good idea
[03:06] <nickrud> Stormx, everyone's useless sometimes xP
[03:07] <Snippy> mhm
[03:07] <Snippy> and what is VFAT?
[03:07] <direwolf> starting nautilus is fine but will slow ya down some
[03:07] <direwolf> fat32
[03:07] <PlanarPlatypus> does anyone here know where PGP support is hidden in the hoary install of evolution?
[03:07] <direwolf> ?
[03:07] <cafuego> PlanarPlatypus: gnupg
[03:07] <Stormx> Snippy: VFAT is File Allocation Tables: Its basicly readable in Windows and Linux.
[03:07] <Snippy> readable..
[03:07] <h08817> when i am doing this: ndiswrapper -i netwg111.inf do i need to do like E:\drivers\netwg111.inf for the install file?
[03:07] <avanspronsen> Stormx: no journaling though?
[03:07] <Snippy> and writable?
[03:07] <h08817> or what do i do?
[03:07] <wooty___> o man
[03:07] <Stormx> journaling? It has write support, too.
[03:07] <wooty___> coming here was useless what a pitty
[03:08] <cafuego> h08817: You will need the .inf, the .sys and possibly firmware.
[03:08] <wooty___> who would had tought nobody knew how =P
[03:08] <h08817> cafuego: how do i do that
[03:08] <cafuego> wooty___: You can get paid support if we're not to your likinh.
[03:08] <Stormx> wooty___ try again tomorow.
[03:08] <h08817> i mean step by step
[03:08] <Snippy> but I cant change my NTFS partition to another filesystem without destroying the data.. THATS my problem
[03:08] <avanspronsen> Stormx: journaling? transactions?
[03:08] <h08817> so i am sitting at my terminal and what do i type?
[03:08] <Stormx> Snippy: Heres what you do.
[03:08] <Stormx> Snippy: How much of it is used?
[03:09] <PlanarPlatypus> cafuego, ah found it, it is somewhat obtuse though
[03:09] <Snippy> Stormx, well it's almost full, but I dont really know cuz I dont see the partition under linux
[03:09] <Stormx> Snippy: You can get read support in linux of NTFS.
[03:09] <cafuego> PlanarPlatypus: 'seahorse' does gui key management.
[03:09] <Stormx> Snippy: Why do you have an NTFS partition with no windows on it?
[03:10] <Snippy> I had windows on THIS partition
[03:10] <Stormx> I really have to go.
[03:10] <Snippy> it was just meant to be a partition for my files
[03:10] <JaZy84> Stormx the esound make it not freeze it looks like it's playing but nothing coming out of speakers.
[03:10] <Stormx> I'll be back in 12 hours.
[03:10] <Snippy> no windows
[03:10] <avanspronsen> Snippy: you have no where to move the data?
[03:10] <Stormx> JaZy84: You have sound on?
[03:10] <Snippy> no
[03:10] <JaZy84> yeah.
[03:10] <PlanarPlatypus> cafuego, fair enough, I was actually trying to find the "is this mail signed" information but it seems to doesn't tell you if they are signed with your own key
[03:10] <JaZy84> like the sounds within gnome work fine.
[03:10] <Stormx> Applications > Sound and Video > Volume control
[03:10] <h08817> i am about 5min from walking away from freakin linux
[03:10] <Stormx> Also check volume control on XMMS
[03:10] <avanspronsen> I don;t believe there is any tool that will help you do an in place change to a filesystem
[03:11] <direwolf> why h08817
[03:11] <Stormx> avanspronsen: No, its not possible.
[03:11] <Snippy> well,a friend told me that he did it once
[03:11] <Snippy> but
[03:11] <Stormx> HE LIED ^_&
[03:11] <h08817> b/c i don't know anything about it and i can't get internet on my linux machine
[03:11] <avanspronsen> Snippy: I have never heard of it
[03:11] <dbernar1> h08817: youll be back:)
[03:11] <Snippy> yea.. it killed his hdd afterwards
[03:11] <h08817> i hope
[03:11] <dbernar1> h08817: what ISP?
[03:11] <h08817> comcast
[03:11] <h08817> its my netgear wg111 usb
[03:11] <dbernar1> WEll, I can hel pyou with that.
[03:11] <avanspronsen> Snippy: how much data?
[03:12] <Snippy> he had it running for few hours somehow
[03:12] <dbernar1> Ah, wireless...:-/
[03:12] <direwolf> ok first take deep breath
[03:12] <h08817> ok
[03:12] <Stormx> Peace people.
[03:12] <dbernar1> You are shootinhg too high, can you get wires?
[03:12] <Snippy> I dont know exactly.. its a 120 GB partition
[03:12] <Stormx> Bai
[03:12] <JaZy84> it was using oss instead of ALSA
[03:12] <avanspronsen> Snippy: I would be skeptical
[03:12] <h08817> no
[03:12] <dbernar1> cya Stormx
[03:12] <Snippy> I am
[03:12] <direwolf> no im going to use google and see what we come up with
[03:12] <Stormx> Dude. You have way to much porn ^_^
[03:12] <avanspronsen> Stormx: :-)
[03:12] <Snippy> lol
[03:12] <Stormx> Cya 12 hours.
[03:12] <Snippy> cya :)
[03:12] <Stormx> (really this time)
[03:12] <Snippy> hehe
[03:12] <dbernar1> h08817: look up ndiswrapper on google, and find the list of supported cards, then find yours on there,
[03:13] <dbernar1> Or, search for your card model+linux on google, se if it is supported.
[03:13] <h08817> dbernar1: once i do that then what
[03:13] <Snippy> can someone tell me how I get linux to display my ntfs partition? to check the free space on it
[03:13] <h08817> i tried the command ndiswrapper -i netwg111.inf
[03:13] <h08817> and i got an error
[03:13] <h08817> unable to find file or directory
[03:14] <h08817> so is it the wrong card i found the information in a post on the forums
[03:14] <Snippy> avanspronsen ?
[03:14] <JDahl> Snippy, cant you mount it and use df ?
[03:14] <arbir> hello
[03:14] <dbernar1> find the model on the list, to know it is supported.
[03:14] <direwolf> h08817 were you in the directory where you inf and driver file(s) are located?
[03:14] <h08817> no they are on a cd
[03:14] <Snippy> how can I mount it? and what is df ?
[03:14] <arbir> i need to do a /etc/init.d/networking restart each time i boot my machine.. why is that so ?
[03:14] <dbernar1> then get the files from the CD or, somewhere, then do the ndiswrapped, you need the file.
[03:14] <dbernar1> copy them over.
[03:15] <h08817> where should i put the files?
[03:15] <arbir> if i do an ifconfig i see my eth0 device with the correct IP address and yet i cannot ping my network unless i restart the service
[03:15] <Snippy> JDahl, how can I mount it? and what is df ?
[03:15] <direwolf> it would be easiest to copy them to your home folder
[03:15] <slipaway172> ok who ever told me that running ubuntu under xfce4 on a via mobo and c3 cpu deserves to be shot and killed.
[03:15] <h08817> ok but i have to be root to install it
[03:15] <avanspronsen> Snippy: you need to make a dir on /mnt
[03:16] <JDahl> Snippy, mount it like any other partition. Google on "fstab tutorial" or something. 'df' is a program - diskfree
[03:16] <direwolf> or make a directory in your home folder "windows_driver" or the like
[03:16] <direwolf> then copy them there
[03:16] <arbir> Snippy: df tells you about ur diff partitions on ur system
[03:16] <direwolf> yes thats ok
[03:16] <avanspronsen> Snippy: then  something like: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o,ro
[03:16] <Snippy> ahh
[03:16] <dbernar1> you can copy files anywhere, but need to know where they are.
[03:16] <direwolf> you sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf
[03:16] <arbir> Snippy: df -H
[03:16] <Snippy> oh my
[03:16] <dbernar1> There is this concept of specifying the absolute or relative path in unix.
[03:16] <Snippy> slowly please :)
[03:16] <h08817> but i must be in that directory to install it right?
[03:16] <Snippy> what should I do now?
[03:17] <h08817> what is sudo?
[03:17] <dbernar1> /var/www/index.html is an absolute path, cause it starts at /
[03:17] <avanspronsen> Snippy: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[03:17] <h08817> why do i have to use it
[03:17] <direwolf> sudo lets you run as root
[03:17] <slipaway172> su is better
[03:17] <arbir> h08817: sudo gives u super user privs. each time u use it
[03:17] <direwolf> !sudo
[03:17] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:17] <h08817> i have seen that but what argument should i use
[03:17] <dbernar1> www/index.html from /var would do the same, but relative to the place you are at at that time.
[03:17] <Snippy> avanspronsen, done
[03:17] <h08817> -l -k ?
[03:18] <avanspronsen> mount
[03:18] <avanspronsen> sorry
[03:18] <direwolf> h08817 easiest to take this step at a time
[03:18] <traveller> what is keeping my dvd in the tray when i press the eject button? i have to right click on the icon to eject it, is there a way i can make it so i can just press the button on the drive?
[03:18] <Snippy> uh
[03:18] <h08817> yeah but i have to leave this chat to go try this
[03:18] <arbir> h08817: if you need to run a super user command eg. apt-get update
[03:18] <Snippy> sudo mkdir /mount/windows
[03:18] <Snippy> ?
[03:18] <h08817> i am on a dual boot system with xp and ubuntu
[03:18] <arbir> h08817: you cannot run it with sudo like this '  sudo apt-get update'
[03:18] <slipaway172> thats sad
[03:18] <h08817> aye this is so hard
[03:19] <h08817> no wonder everyone uses windows
[03:19] <arbir> but if you try to run as normal use it wont let you run the command @ h08817
[03:19] <arbir> h08817: its not hard, its diff. changes take a while to sink
[03:19] <Xenguy> traveller: maybe it needs to be 'unmounted' first?
[03:19] <h08817> well i'll go try this sudo root or whatever copy files to hd thing and see if it works
[03:19] <Xenguy> traveller: just a guess
[03:19] <arbir> can anybody pls help me with my netowoking ? :-(
[03:19] <dbernar1> gtg. :(
[03:19] <traveller> Xenguy: isn't there a way it can be done automatically? i find it quite annoying i have to unmount it everytime before i even try to push the button
[03:20] <matsur> Hi all, how do you get Cool 'n' Quiet working w/ amd64?
[03:20] <h08817> is there anything i have to do after it is installed to get online?
[03:20] <Xenguy> arbir: I saw your Q - that sounds quite odd
[03:20] <arbir> Xenguy: and i have not been able to figure out whats the real problem
[03:21] <Xenguy> traveller: I've never bothered to investigate, but I've heard of systems like 'automount' etc.
[03:21] <direwolf> h08817: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[03:21] <h08817> what is that for?
[03:21] <hubsi> is there any tv program besides xawtv and tvtime?
[03:21] <direwolf> how to set up ndiswrapper
[03:21] <h08817> and what files do i need exactly from the cd
[03:21] <h08817> just the inf?
[03:21] <arbir> Xenguy: its such a pain to goto the console each time i reboot my machine
[03:21] <traveller> Xenguy: from what i understand, gnome-volume-manager handles the mounting and unmounting...is there a remote possibility that it's related to some options there?
[03:21] <Xenguy> arbir: have you messed around with your boot-up scripts lately?
[03:22] <direwolf> .inf, .sys, .cat (if there)
[03:22] <arbir> Xenguy: NO.. it was always a problem like that
[03:22] <direwolf> please refer to
[03:22] <direwolf> h08817: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[03:22] <Xenguy> traveller: could be - I really have no idea on this question
[03:22] <h08817> i just went there
[03:22] <traveller> Xenguy: ok, thanks
[03:22] <h08817> whatever bb in 15min
[03:22] <direwolf> it walks you through setting up ndiswrapper
[03:22] <lui> hello people!
[03:22] <direwolf> print it out
[03:22] <h08817> i'll print it and try it
[03:23] <h08817> thanks for the help
[03:23] <direwolf> hth
[03:23] <lui> anyone has seen Seveas?
[03:23] <arbir> hi fiona
[03:24] <Xenguy> arbir: have you been able to google the problem at all ?
[03:24] <arbir> Xenguy: what do i google for ? i dont know how to start my query .. its so weird
[03:24] <Xenguy> yeah
[03:26] <arbir> hopes Xenguy can find an answer...
[03:26] <fiona> hi arbir
[03:27] <arbir> hi fiona talk here pls. dontsend me private messages
[03:29] <arbir> fiona.. please dont PM me
[03:29] <direwolf> getting memory for this old laptop tomorrow, huzzah!
[03:29] <direwolf> will still be a poc though
[03:30] <direwolf> the hardware portion anyway , ubuntu portion is great :)
[03:31] <Spudchat> hi everyone...my firefox stopped working so i uninstalled it
[03:31] <Spudchat> i was wonderin what package i should install now
[03:31] <direwolf> i might try to get the winmodem working just for kicks
[03:32] <Chaotic_Reality> Spudchat, what happened with firefox? things don't just don't stop working for no reason. :)
[03:32] <Syco54645> i am looking for a good pdf viewer
[03:32] <direwolf> mozilla-firefox
[03:32] <Syco54645> xpdf isnt opening the files that i have right
[03:32] <Syco54645> ghostview is working, but i want to go through it fast and it isnt letting me... any ideas?
[03:33] <avanspronsen> Syco54645: Evince?
[03:33] <Spudchat> it just stopped loading
[03:33] <Spudchat> it says loading but nothing ever happens
[03:33] <direwolf> its notoriously slow startup
[03:33] <direwolf> once it loads it should be ok though
[03:33] <arbir> Xenguy: i found this problem but no answer even in that Ubuntu forum
[03:33] <Spudchat> i know but it should load eventually
[03:33] <Spudchat> it wont even load
[03:33] <Syco54645> avanspronsen, thanks ill take a look at it
[03:34] <servvs> umm
[03:34] <servvs> did your firefox ever work?
[03:34] <Chaotic_Reality> Spudchat, do you have any processes running?  try ps -aux |grep mozilla-firefox and see if there's a running process...if so kill it, then try
[03:34] <Spudchat> when ubuntu was first installed
[03:34] <servvs> umm
[03:34] <servvs> h/o a sec
[03:34] <avanspronsen> Syco54645: depends on mono
[03:34] <servvs> i think you need to tweak it
[03:34] <Spudchat> its not runnin
[03:35] <servvs> have you ever tweaked it?
[03:35] <TheDemon> if you uninstalled it it's not going to load, lol
[03:35] <Spudchat> nope
[03:35] <Syco54645> avanspronsen, what?
[03:35] <Spudchat> lol i uninstalled it then reinstalled it
[03:35] <TheDemon> oh
[03:35] <Snippy> does anyone know a GOOD partitioning tool (free) with a user-friendly menu ?
[03:35] <Xenguy> arbir: yeah, I'm not having much luck searching
[03:36] <arbir> Xenguy: i found something
[03:36] <arbir> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26432.html
[03:36] <TheDemon> Spudchat: look in synaptic and see if "mozilla-firefox gnome support" is installed
[03:36] <TheDemon> i think it's called that, i'm not posotive
[03:36] <direwolf> qtparted
[03:36] <TheDemon> you need that and the firefox base
[03:36] <Syco54645> avanspronsen, oh i used apt-get if that is what you meant, i dont worry about dependencies when i can use that
[03:37] <Syco54645> it does take a bit of time to render the thumb nails though
[03:37] <Syco54645> but that is ok
[03:37] <TheDemon> yes, qtparted is very nice
[03:37] <Spudchat> it wasnt so i installed it
[03:37] <Snippy> thanks direwolf
[03:37] <avanspronsen> Syco54645: ya, just that some people are put off a bit by mono, or installing mono just for 1 app.  doesn't bother me though
[03:37] <fr500> Snippy, gparted woks for me
[03:37] <jrattner1> How do I set up hotkeys in KDE?
[03:37] <Snippy> thanks
[03:37] <direwolf> np
[03:37] <Spudchat> it still wont load though
[03:38] <Snippy> just started it.. it shows no devices
[03:38] <LinuxJones> jrattner1, you might be better off asking that in #kubuntu
[03:38] <servvs> Spudchat, take a look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42949&highlight=firefox+tweak
[03:39] <Snippy> nevermind works now
[03:39] <Syco54645> avanspronsen, i am put off by the lack of programs in the repository, but i am learning to deal with it... like having my own repository set up... know anything about it, like if it will be able to handle dependencies?  because from what i see, the deb files are no more than a redhat rpm style of thing when used with dpkg -i foo.deb
[03:39] <Xenguy> arbir: broadcast, eh?  Looks like a good page for ideas to explore... bit like searching for a needle in a haystack
[03:39] <Spudchat> i cant
[03:39] <Xenguy> arbir: good luck
[03:39] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, you have universe and multiverse repos enabled ?
[03:39] <Spudchat> no web browser unless i can see it from the terminal
[03:39] <Syco54645> will it get the dependencies if i build my own repository for a few apps that i use that arnt in it already?
[03:40] <avanspronsen> Syco54645: lack of programs?
[03:40] <jrattner1> Is there any way to make grub, graphical in begining?
[03:40] <Syco54645> yes a lack
[03:40] <Syco54645> valknut isnt there
[03:40] <servvs> wtf
[03:40] <Syco54645> nor are the frontends to dvdauthor
[03:40] <servvs> oops, wrong chan
[03:40] <h08817> ok it didn't work
[03:40] <juanej> why synaptic uploader try to download firefox everytime?
[03:40] <Syco54645> and yes valknut is dcgui-qt, but that is old... very old, like from 2003... the newest is .3.7 and i dont see it there
[03:41] <arbir> Thanks Xenguy
[03:41] <arbir> Xenguy: let me go down to my basement where my server is
[03:41] <Xenguy> arbir: I'd be interested in knowing the solution when you get there :-)
[03:42] <Syco54645> i mean if someone can prove me wrong (and i hope they can) then please do it
[03:42] <arbir> Xenguy: sure
[03:42] <Syco54645> this is the only thing that is turning me off of ubuntu
[03:42] <arbir> Xenguy: if you notice... both the broadcasts are fine in that forum
[03:42] <arbir> Xenguy: it means that the problem was diff
[03:42] <arbir> is gone down
[03:42] <h08817> direwolf: it wouldn't let me load the module in the kernel
[03:42] <Xenguy> arbir: ahh, I didn't read closely enough then
[03:42] <jrattner1> im not sure if ubuntu is reconising my 2 gigs of ram, is there any way to find out
[03:43] <direwolf> what was the error message?
[03:43] <patricia> hy foks! I'm a brand new user in linux/ubuntu and I need some help.
[03:43] <magneto> high patricia
[03:43] <h08817> fatal: couldn't copy to /lib/some number /net yada yada yada
[03:43] <patricia> hi magneto
[03:43] <direwolf> h08177: i asuume you did "sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper"
[03:43] <magneto> !hi ubotu
[03:43] <ubotu> magneto: I give up, what is it?
[03:43] <h08817> no
[03:43] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, can i pm you what i have in my /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[03:44] <Snippy> thank you guys for the help
[03:44] <Snippy> I'm off now :)
[03:44] <direwolf> h08177: you just did "modprobe -i ndiswrapper" ?
[03:44] <neil__> hi all
[03:44] <h08817> direwolf: i became root and did modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:44] <Snippy> good bye
[03:44] <h08817> i didn't know i needed -i
[03:44] <magneto> patricia: what problems are u having?
[03:44] <h08817> it isn't on that paper
[03:44] <patricia> Here is the first question: the configuration menu of some aplications are too small! Why? Other things are just fine, like openoffice, etc..
[03:44] <h08817> or the sudo part
[03:44] <direwolf> try "sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper"
[03:45] <direwolf> -i tells it install or insert (easy way to remember)
[03:45] <Chaotic_Reality> does apt-get update, update all the latest software for apt-get to grab as far as software patches and such?
[03:45] <h08817> do i need to do sudo when installing it also?
[03:45] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, I will post it to pastebin 1 sec
[03:45] <h08817> sudo ndiswrapper -i netwg111.inf?
[03:45] <direwolf> if you want to remove its -r
[03:45] <patricia> example: xine, xmms, rhuthmbox, ...
[03:45] <jrattner1> Stormx, im not sure if ubuntu is reconising my 2 gigs of ram, is there any way to find out?
[03:45] <direwolf> h08177 yeah
[03:45] <h08817> ok bb in 10min please don't leave
[03:46] <Sakara> hello
[03:46] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, ok that is just fine... thanks.  i should also mention that my main drive died and i have not gotten a new one yet, so i am running my system on the live cd.
[03:46] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: it should yes (assuming configuration of /etc/apt/sources.list is fine)
[03:46] <Sakara> can somebody help me?:D
[03:46] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, >> http://pastebin.ca/19467
[03:46] <Chaotic_Reality> Xenguy, is it good to update before installing something, or just once a day is good?
[03:46] <Syco54645> jrattner1, type free -m
[03:46] <DonL> patricia, is your screen resolution to your liking?
[03:46] <Goodspeed> someone wanna help me with my networking woes?
[03:46] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, ohh
[03:46] <Sakara> can somebody help me?
[03:47] <Sakara> how can i listen mp3s with my linux
[03:47] <Chaotic_Reality> Sakara, install xmms
[03:47] <Sakara> ubuntu
[03:47] <Sakara> how?
[03:47] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: before you install is my preference
[03:47] <Sakara> im new
[03:47] <Chaotic_Reality> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:47] <jrattner1> Syco54645, it says total 885
[03:47] <avanspronsen> Sakara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:47] <Goodspeed> what's the linux game where you're an eskimo
[03:47] <Goodspeed> that's like animal crossing?
[03:47] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, figured i would leave gentoo once and for all and what a better reason than to have my hd crash (the install was about 4 years old)
[03:47] <Syco54645> jrattner1, then i would say that it isnt
[03:47] <Chaotic_Reality> Xenguy, thanks.  That's what I do in FreeBSD with ports, otherwise something will break if it was recently updated.
[03:48] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: assuming you're not on dial-up ;-)
[03:48] <Chaotic_Reality> Xenguy, what's that? :)
[03:48] <jrattner1> Syco54645, how do i enable it?
[03:48] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, heh, welcome aboard you will love Ubuntu :)
[03:49] <Syco54645> jrattner1, i am not sure i only have 768 gigs of ram
[03:49] <patricia> DonL, what? The screen resolution is fine, very good quality.
[03:49] <JaZy84> anyone know of a emulator for ppc linux
[03:49] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, thanks... and i hope that i do.  i would be happier if i could get the newest versions of programs tho and not have to compile by hand... libc6 isnt fun to have to do by hand
[03:49] <Sakara> hmm
[03:50] <Sakara> i dont understand :D
[03:50] <avanspronsen> Sakara: what don't you understand?
[03:50] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, is valknut in your repos?
[03:50] <Sakara> how i can play mp3s
[03:50] <Sakara> libmad0 (multiverse)- MP3 support for non-gstreamer players
[03:50] <Xenguy> !mp3
[03:50] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:51] <Goodspeed> what's the linux game that's like animal crossing?
[03:51] <Goodspeed> i jsut saw it on g4
[03:51] <jrattner1> how do i load high memory support so it reconizes my 2 gigs?
[03:51] <DonL> Goodspeed, never heard of animal crossing. sorry
[03:51] <Goodspeed> you play an eskimo
[03:51] <Syco54645> Goodspeed, check out gentoo-portage.com it is a nice way to browse games... maybe you could find it in there
[03:51] <Goodspeed> you upgarde your house
[03:51] <avanspronsen> Anyone know if there is a way to get a list of what the ubotu bot knows about?
[03:52] <Sakara> fuck...
[03:52] <Sakara> im stupid
[03:52] <direwolf> welcome to my world
[03:53] <Quest-Master> http://cronopios.net/blog/wp-content/vivsemacs.png
[03:53] <Sakara> i just cant find anything that could help me :D
[03:53] <Chaotic_Reality> Sakara, I already told you how to install xmms, which is just like winamp.
[03:53] <Sakara> really?:D
[03:53] <Sakara> when
[03:53] <Chaotic_Reality> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:53] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, valknut is not in the repos, good news is that hopefully breezy will be getting relatively stable in the next month or so :)
[03:54] <arbir> Xenguy: are you there ?
[03:54] <Sakara> it does nothing?
[03:54] <Xenguy> arbir: yep
[03:54] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, think they will add it in then??  i mean valknut has been called such for over a year
[03:54] <direwolf> huh
[03:54] <avanspronsen> Chaotic_Reality: that doesn't include mp3 by default
[03:54] <arbir> Xenguy: can you paste what is in ur /etc/networking/interfaces file ?
[03:54] <Xenguy> arbir: hang on
[03:54] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, I don't even know what that program does....what is it ?
[03:54] <Chaotic_Reality> avanspronsen, seemed to work for me with only having to adjust my output.
[03:54] <patricia> Could someone help me?
[03:55] <Sakara> chaotic where it should come?:D
[03:55] <Sakara> that program
[03:55] <dandelion> patricia: it all depends on what your problem is
[03:55] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, it is a directconnect program... i trade smashing pumpkins and other concerts, so i kinda need it
[03:55] <Syco54645> not that i cant compile it by hand
[03:55] <Syco54645> i am just getting lazy in my old age
[03:55] <Chaotic_Reality> Sakara, after it's installed you should be able to open it under Applications->Sound & Video->XMMS
[03:55] <avanspronsen> the following doc talks about enabling mp3 support : http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <Sakara> no,i cant see it
[03:56] <Chaotic_Reality> then it's not installed...
[03:56] <DonL> patricia, everything is too small for you to read? You might check your screen resolution and see if you can change it from say 1024x768 to 800x600. If you're new to linux maybe that's the problem. Under windows maybe it was a different resolution
[03:56] <fr500> Syco54645, and the chat, is it IRC?
[03:56] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, well thanks for all of your help... i doubt that i will use anything but ubuntu once i get a new drive
[03:56] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, there may be Debian packages that you may be able to install
[03:57] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, cool :)
[03:57] <avanspronsen> Sakara: look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats .  let us know if you get tripped up
[03:57] <Syco54645> fr500 the chat is not irc... it is like irc but it is made by neomadus
[03:57] <fr500> ok
[03:57] <fr500> looks cool
[03:57] <DonL> patricia, if the problem seems system-wide that may be the problem.
[03:57] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, i am no stranger to having to compile stuff myself (used to use mandrake and i refuse to use rpms)
[03:57] <fr500> it's like the idea behind original napster or something?
[03:58] <Syco54645> fr500 kinda, except live music sharing is legal
[03:58] <fr500> oh
[03:58] <fr500> ol
[03:58] <Syco54645> see thetradersden.org
[03:58] <Syco54645> or dimeadozen.org
[03:58] <arbir> will beback
[03:58] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, can't blame you for that :D
[03:58] <Syco54645> even archive.org
[03:58] <patricia> DonL, just the some menu of some aplications. Not all!! The resolution, 1200x800 is fine! But I can't read some menus of Xine, for exemplo.
[03:58] <fr500> and how does it ensure it's live?
[03:58] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, i went with gentoo back when debian was a pain to get through the install
[03:59] <Syco54645> fr500 there are ops like me that check to make sure noone is sharing mp3s
[03:59] <fr500> oh
[03:59] <fr500> ok
[03:59] <avanspronsen> Syco54645: and gentoo was easier ;-)
[03:59] <Syco54645> most people dont encode cds to shn or flac
[03:59] <khaije1> i do
[03:59] <DonL> In that case, sorry, patricia . Mine is fine and I don't know what is your problem. 1200x800 sounds like a laptop resolution. Is it?
[03:59] <direwolf> i do
[03:59] <Syco54645> avanspronsen, everyone says that... it wasnt too hard.  the old debian installed used to die on me.  knoppix made it nicer
[04:00] <jrattner1> How do i configure my system for high memory support
[04:00] <Syco54645> ok well then the idiots that come to the hubs dont encode cds to flac or shn
[04:00] <Syco54645> and besides the hubs are very well patrolled and not in the main hub lists
[04:00] <Syco54645> so it is really a word of mouth thing
[04:00] <khaije1> for backup to dvd, then make lossy copies for other digital media sources
[04:00] <h08817> direwolf, i'm back
[04:00] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, things have come a long way in the last 2 years or so.
[04:00] <Syco54645> khaije1, well the normal kazaa user doesnt
[04:01] <Syco54645> LinuxJones, yeah i know... the 2.6 kernel is finally good too
[04:01] <Syco54645> :P
[04:01] <khaije1> ahh... granted
[04:01] <Syco54645> and i like this community
[04:01] <Syco54645> no more elitists
[04:01] <quarupted> Me too
[04:01] <Syco54645> finally a linux that is nice
[04:01] <DonL> Me too
[04:01] <direwolf> howd it go h08177
[04:02] <h08817> direwolf, no luck i got this message    fatal: error inserting ndiswrapper  (lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko)  operatoin not permitted
[04:02] <quarupted> Gentoo is nice as well
[04:02] <LinuxJones> Syco54645, yeah 2.6.0 was a big dissapointment for me.
[04:02] <Goodspeed> DigiPen
[04:02] <Goodspeed> !!
[04:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[04:02] <Goodspeed> i found it!
[04:02] <patricia> DonL, yeah! It is a notebook, a compaq
[04:02] <direwolf> and you did " sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper "?
[04:02] <h08817> yes
[04:02] <h08817> i did sudo everything
[04:03] <DonL> patricia, they go their own way, and I'm afraid I'm out of my area of expertise there.
[04:03] <JaZy84> i'm getting an error that says something about libstdc++ trys to open it but doesn't find that file or directory can i install this lib
[04:04] <Xenguy> arbir: are you there now?
[04:04] <jrattner1> where can i get the ubuntu smp kernel
[04:04] <patricia> DonL, ok! I'll try to change resolution later....
[04:04] <h08817> direwolf, any clue?
[04:05] <direwolf> nope
[04:05] <h08817> any clue why that happens?
[04:05] <DonL> patricia, "System, Preferences, Screen Resolution"
[04:05] <patricia> Now, one more question:  I can't open doc files, ou mp3 files in other machines, why???
[04:05] <h08817> also can u give me a link that will tell me a little more about what sudo does?
[04:06] <patricia> But, if I copy it to my ubuntu, so, a can read/listen it perfectly! What is the problem?
[04:06] <Sakara> damn!
[04:06] <Sakara> still i cant listen mp3s :D
[04:06] <DonL> I guess that means you should be running Ubuntu on the other machines, patricia
[04:07] <avanspronsen> Sakara: did you follow the instructions?
[04:07] <patricia> haha... but I can't do it!
[04:07] <balzac> holy smokes, i'm having a bad time trying to install my stupid intel 537EP modem
[04:07] <balzac> i think i'm going to just buy an external USR modem
[04:07] <patricia> It is a configuration problem?
[04:07] <Sakara> i tried
[04:07] <direwolf> !sudo
[04:07] <balzac> i'm a linux newb
[04:07] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:08] <jrattner1> where can i get the ubuntu smp kernel?
[04:08] <Sakara> i opened synatic package manage
[04:08] <balzac> if i weren't bald already, i'd be pulling my hair out
[04:08] <h08817> !sudo
[04:08] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:08] <h08817> thanks
[04:08] <arbir> Xenguy: are you there now ? i am back up from my basement
[04:08] <h08817> i might have a site let me know what u think
[04:08] <h08817> direwolf, http://www.harry-b.de/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=harry:wlan
[04:08] <balzac> i have to hand it to the linux community for perseverance in the face of pitiful hardware support
[04:09] <balzac> all these years of getting treated as an after-thought by the hardware manufacturers...
[04:09] <DonL> balzac, I have more hardware problems in this house with my wife's XP and my son's 98
[04:09] <balzac> DonL, you must be good at selecting hardware
[04:10] <jrattner1> WHERE CAN I GET KERNELS FOR UBUNTU?
[04:10] <DonL> Well, I do think about that when I buy it, but I find the linux distros have more ability to recognize more hardware now
[04:10] <balzac> i just thought i'd try to get this crappy intel modem working, but it was too much for me.
[04:11] <balzac> it's theoretically possible
[04:11] <seth_k> jrattner1, from Synaptic
[04:11] <jrattner1> seth_k, are you sure?
[04:11] <DonL> balzac, sorry but I haven't needed a modem for a while. I use ADSL and love it
[04:11] <holycow> jrattner1, apt-cache search kernel
[04:11] <seth_k> jrattner1, sure. They're called linux-image-***
[04:11] <balzac> that's another one of my gripes, no broadband where i live
[04:11] <jrattner1> im just trying to install the smp kernel
[04:12] <DonL> balzac, that's too bad. Once you have it there, you won't want to leave it
[04:12] <balzac> the US has fallen from #1 in broadband connectedness to #15 or something
[04:12] <seth_k> then you'll want something like linux-image-2.6.12-6-686-smp jrattner1
[04:12] <DonL> balzac, are you in the states?
[04:12] <balzac> i want to punch a politician
[04:12] <balzac> yes
[04:13] <DonL> Ok
[04:13] <jrattner1> seth_k, after synaptic does its work will it boot that kernel by default?
[04:13] <seth_k> jrattner1, if you uninstall the old one, yes
[04:13] <patricia> DonL, how can i fix it?
[04:13] <concept10> anyone know the link of the ubuntu hardware database
[04:13] <jrattner1> seth_k, do i have to uninstall the old one to boot the new by default that seems weird
[04:13] <balzac> whew! now i'm starting to feel better.
[04:13] <seth_k> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com but it's down right now
[04:14] <seth_k> jrattner1, no, you do not have to. You can also edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[04:14] <seth_k> and change the default
[04:14] <balzac> i'll just buy the $70 USR external modem
[04:14] <seth_k> or I think there is a Boot applet in your Administration menu
[04:14] <concept10> seth_k: down for maintenance
[04:14] <balzac> ubuntu is nice
[04:15] <DonL> patricia, I don't have enough information to help you further, I'm afraid. Don't know what you're trying to do.
[04:15] <balzac> the installed help files are very skimpy
[04:15] <seth_k> concept10, read my line. I told you it was down right now
[04:15] <concept10> seth_k: I was asking if it was down for maintenance, I read your line
[04:16] <balzac> the search function is ridiculous. it only searches the page you're looking at, not all the help pages.
[04:16] <balzac> actually, that's find, it doesn't have searchable help
[04:17] <balzac> nevertheless, i'm quitting windows for ubuntu
[04:18] <DonL> balzac, I did that about 5 years ago. Best move I ever made
[04:18] <balzac> i shoulda done it a long time ago
[04:18] <patricia> DonL, i just want to open docs from machines trough the local netware
[04:18] <balzac> i kept thinking a few apps were worth staying on windows for
[04:19] <balzac> photoshop, dreamweaver, etc.
[04:19] <DonL> patricia, what machines? What operating systems?
[04:19] <balzac> now i'm going to do ruby on rails and get used to gimp
[04:20] <DonL> balzac, did you use another gimp-like program before?
[04:20] <patricia> Machines using Windows XP Pro and Home
[04:20] <balzac> photoshop
[04:20] <balzac> gimp is very much like photoshop
[04:20] <DonL> balzac, I've heard that if you know that, gimp follows quite nicely
[04:21] <balzac> you know what is annoying? how hard it is to get a Java VM running on ubuntu
[04:21] <balzac> gimp has most of what you need
[04:21] <toresbe> nice :) btw, I started a webradio :D check it out: http://toresbe.homelinux.org:8000/
[04:21] <toresbe> ohfuck, sorry
[04:21] <toresbe> EWINDOW
[04:22] <balzac> DonL, since i don't do print work, i can get away with gimp instead of photoshop
[04:22] <DonL> patricia, any Windows box should recognize a .doc file. Maybe you have a problem connecting your computers together
[04:22] <balzac> plus i'm planning on quitting design and focusing on dev
[04:22] <farruinn> Anyone here have experience configuring ppp for an eMac?
[04:23] <patricia> DonL, I don't gues so, because every other machines in the LAN can share files with wich other.
[04:23] <DonL> balzac, Java has always annoyed me till I get it running and leave it. The best results I've had with Ubuntu and Java have been from the instructions on the Wiki or How to from Ubuntu
[04:24] <balzac> thanks
[04:24] <concept10> Anyone ever configured IrDA with ubuntu to sync palm pilots?
[04:24] <balzac> once i get my ubuntu system online, i can use apt-get for the java parts
[04:24] <balzac> i'm quitting php for ruby on rails
[04:25] <balzac> i figured it would be cool to run it on linux natively
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, ok
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, i got it installed
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, it says driver present, hardware present
[04:25] <DonL> patricia, getting Unix like boxes and Windows boxes talking for me is a dark art. I've never had much luck unfortunately. From Ubuntu I can see the other windows machines and share files from them, but they seem to have a hard time seeing my Linux box.
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, so now how do i get online with it?
[04:26] <h08817> i need help from any1
[04:26] <balzac> you know, there's little things that still need work in the user interface of linux
[04:26] <h08817> i just installed netgear wg111 usb how do i configure it to get online?
[04:26] <balzac> i wish i were a better programmer so i could help fix up gnome
[04:26] <Xenguy> patricia: would 'samba' help your boxen to talk to each other?
[04:26] <direwolf> do you have another ethernet connection on the machine or just the usb wireless?
[04:27] <h08817> just the usb
[04:27] <DonL> balzac, you don't like gnome?
[04:27] <h08817> i connect to my network i have here at home
[04:27] <direwolf> do you use wep or wpa?
[04:27] <balzac> DonL, i'm troubled by it
[04:27] <h08817> no i don't use either but i should
[04:27] <balzac> i like the configurability
[04:27] <h08817> i live in the country so i am not worried about it
[04:27] <balzac> but there's room for improvement
[04:27] <DonL> I find it elegant in it's simplicity and wonderful to look at.
[04:27] <h08817> but if u think i should have it then please help
[04:28] <balzac> the default gnome is a bit weird, imho
[04:28] <h08817> so...
[04:28] <concept10> balzac: whats wierd about it?
[04:28] <h08817> direwolf, so can i get online without all that security crap or will linux not allow it
[04:28] <balzac> i prefer to have a URI - browser style
[04:28] <direwolf> go to system > preferences > networking
[04:29] <direwolf> you can get on without it
[04:29] <balzac> i use that more
[04:29] <jrattner1> Are there limewire packages for ubuntu?
[04:29] <h08817> ok i am on 2 different computers now so i should brb
[04:29] <balzac> i like to copy the URI from one window and use it in another
[04:29] <patricia> Xenguy, Shall I install samba or it is already installed?? I gues it is alredy installed since I can see the other machines, am i right?
[04:29] <DonL> When I discovered Ubuntu, I really liked it, and since it shipped with Gnome, I thought I'd give it a chance. As a result, I spent some time learning it, and now think it's the best (for me at least)
[04:29] <h08817> direwolf, what should i do once in there?
[04:29] <PlanarPlatypus> jrattner1, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:29] <wirk> Hello. What program can I use to rip CDs to mp3 ?
[04:29] <balzac> DonL, i think there's a tension between the newb users and power users needing different features
[04:29] <direwolf> do you use dhcp ? or static?
[04:29] <Burgundavia> PlanarPlatypus, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide
[04:30] <DonL> balzac, what do you mean?
[04:30] <balzac> like apple - they still ship computers with a one-button mouse, which I can't stand to use
[04:30] <Xenguy> patricia: I have no idea; it was just a question/suggestion.  You need to ascertain details AFAICT
[04:30] <Burgundavia> balzac, ironically spatial does well with power users but poorly with new users
[04:30] <balzac> but it's probably better for kids and old people
[04:30] <Burgundavia> balzac, gnome is working to correct this
[04:30] <johnnybezak> hey guys is there a gnome applet in hoary for monitoring/changing wireless connections
[04:30] <concept10> wirk: grip
[04:30] <Burgundavia> johnnybezak, no
[04:30] <balzac> Burgundavia, you mean the windows remembering their places? i still havent gotten used to it.
[04:30] <wirk> Thanks concept10
[04:30] <Burgundavia> balzac, yes
[04:31] <Burgundavia> johnnybezak, NetworkManager will be available in breezy
[04:31] <balzac> also, spread-sheet style is much preferable to icons
[04:31] <h08817> direwolf, sweet i am online
[04:31] <iron_citadel> Hi, y'all.
[04:31] <balzac> why would i ever want to see a bunch of icons in a directory?
[04:31] <h08817> direwolf, how in the future could i make it wep or wpa?
[04:31] <iron_citadel> Anyone know anything about evms?
[04:31] <direwolf> great job h08177
[04:31] <concept10> There is a gnome panel applet that works for changing network options, but its nothing like NetworkManager
[04:31] <DonL> balzac, these are all configurable
[04:31] <direwolf> wep is easy you would just enter the key in the config tool
[04:32] <Burgundavia> balzac, icons are a lot nicer than spreadsheet for new users
[04:32] <h08817> do i just make one up on my network computer that i am connecting to?
[04:32] <direwolf> for wpa you need wpa_supplicant which may be a bit harder to setup
[04:32] <h08817> o well i'll just stick to wep
[04:32] <Burgundavia> !ubuntuguide
[04:32] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[04:32] <h08817> lol
[04:32] <direwolf> you set the router to use wep then enter a phrase and generate a key
[04:32] <direwolf> this is done on the router/ap
[04:33] <h08817> o ok thanks for all ur help
[04:33] <h08817> well onto my linux system
[04:33] <direwolf> then you write the key down and enter it into the config tool on the machine with the wireless card
[04:33] <h08817> also one more thing on the ubuntu site it has a tutorial that should answer all my questions right
[04:33] <direwolf> not all but many
[04:34] <direwolf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <h08817> what is the key i can press that will repeat what i type in a terminal window?
[04:34] <balzac> anyway, i'm griping about little things. It's great overall
[04:34] <h08817> i typed ndiswrapper like a million times
[04:34] <direwolf> up arrow
[04:34] <h08817> o ok any other interesting facts i should know as a noob?
[04:34] <LinuxJones> h08817, the up arrow key
[04:35] <h08817> thanks
[04:35] <Xenguy> h08817: or Ctrl-p ;-)
[04:35] <balzac> i'll get used to it.
[04:35] <h08817> well i'm gonna go get on with linux screw windows
[04:36] <DonL> balzac, You'll be enthusiastically brought in and contributing to others here I predict
[04:36] <LinuxJones> h08817, in terminal ctrl + r will let you search (in reverse) the commands you typed in
[04:36] <balzac> DonL, thank you.
[04:37] <balzac> DonL, maybe I'll work on my own file-browser sometime.
[04:37] <DonL> balzac, like me. I don't know a lot but I feel good when I can help someone
[04:37] <iron_citadel> Can anyone answer a question about evms for me?
[04:37] <Chaotic_Shield> I have a question regarding laptop compatibility
[04:37] <Burgundavia> Chaotic_Reality, what sort of question?
[04:37] <balzac> DonL, I found this great app called FreeMind
[04:37] <Chaotic_Reality> :o
[04:37] <Chaotic_Shield> erm.
[04:37] <Chaotic_Shield> O_O
[04:37] <balzac> that's why i wanted java on linux
[04:38] <DonL> balzac, I'll google it
[04:38] <balzac> you can use freemind as a file-browser
[04:38] <Concord_Dawn> here
[04:38] <n8l> are there any good video editing programs that work with ubuntu?
[04:38] <Concord_Dawn> I'll switch my nick to make it easier for you
[04:38] <jrattner1> How do i install JAVA?
[04:38] <balzac> it creates nice file-trees of your directory structure
[04:38] <Burgundavia> jrattner1, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:38] <juanej> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:38] <balzac> but i don't think you can use it to modify your directory structure
[04:39] <balzac> its main purpose is mind-maps
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> Burgundavia, I was wondering why Ubuntu has a cow whenever I close my laptop lid
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> it switches to a prompt, but the prompt doesn't respond to anything
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> only thing I can do is power off and then power on again.
[04:39] <balzac> i'm using it to organize my ideas, and linking to all my files from nodes in FreeMind
[04:39] <Xenguy> Concord_Dawn: http://linux-laptop.net/
[04:39] <Burgundavia> Concord_Dawn, laptop stuff is not completely shaken out yet. It is a big goal to improve it. File a bug about it
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> thanks
[04:40] <balzac> that's the direction I want to go with how I relate to my filesystem
[04:40] <DonL> Concord_Dawn, count yourself lucky. I like cows
[04:40] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[04:40] <n8l> are there any good video editing programs that work with ubuntu?
[04:40] <balzac> n8l, have you checked out Dyne-Bolic?
[04:40] <johnnybezak> n8l: video editing is a bit of a weak spot with linux atm
[04:40] <Burgundavia> Concord_Dawn, ubutnu is very serious about laptop support. They are purchasing a bunch of laptops and distributing them to community members for testing
[04:40] <balzac> that features some nice linux multimedia apps
[04:41] <DonL> balzac, I'll take a look at it, but frankly, I have no problems with the file system management I'm using now
[04:41] <johnnybezak> n8l: have a look for kino/cinerella
[04:41] <iron_citadel> Would I break anything if I disabled evms?
[04:41] <Doomhammer> hi guys
[04:41] <johnnybezak> n8l: and there is a new gstreamer one out too can't rememeber the name
[04:41] <Doomhammer> i've got a questoin
[04:41] <Doomhammer> I have an ATI Radeon 9800 PRO card
[04:41] <direwolf> is there anywhere to take a look at whats going to be added in breezy?
[04:41] <Burgundavia> n8l, diva, but it is very new
[04:41] <Doomhammer> does fglrx work well enough to allow me to game on linux?
[04:41] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, yes
[04:41] <lJlolel> can you make linux (like XFCE) work like the Mac OSX menu so that the icons get larger when the mouse scrolls over
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> n8l: lots of projects ->  http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=video+edit&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[04:42] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:42] <balzac> DonL, it's for mindmaps, primarily
[04:42] <n8l> thanks
[04:42] <DonL> balzac, okay. I'll check it out
[04:42] <Xenguy> n8l: apt-cache search edit |grep video  ?
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: there is a KDE task bar thats does that called Kxdocker
[04:42] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: thanks, i'll have to check that out -- before I re-installed to try out Debian, i tried for weeks to get UT2004 to work... couldn't get it running
[04:42] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, np
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: animated icons the whole deal like the docker in OSX
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: www.kde-apps.org
[04:43] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore,, i haven't actually used OSX, but that enlarging Icons seems cool
[04:43] <balzac> DonL, you know what can make a GUI more efficient? If you can pass from one side of the screen to the other
[04:43] <Doomhammer> hoary runs x.org by default, doesn't it?
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: yeah....gets old really fast though
[04:43] <balzac> sides and top & bottom
[04:44] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, well it seems functional as well, no? Easy to read yet never in the way
[04:44] <DonL> balzac, I've seen that, but for me I don't need it
[04:44] <direwolf> to mee its unnecessary and yeah, gets old quick
[04:44] <DonL> Doomhammer, yes
[04:44] <balzac> i don't either, but it's nice
[04:44] <balzac> DonL, do you program?
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: well the normal KDE kicker talk bar raises icons already when you do a mouse over and as of KDE 3.4 it opens a nice looking dialog box too... so does Gnome 2.12 now
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> talk = task
[04:45] <direwolf> elizabethtown pa ...wheres that
[04:45] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, cool, 2.12 is coming out in september ?
[04:45] <DonL> direwolf, me too. I like dancing icons for oh about five minutes
[04:45] <DonL> balzac, Some people think I do. I don't
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: well ive got it already from cvs....but yes stable is in sept
[04:45] <lJlolel> nice
[04:46] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, will breezy ship with 2.12?
[04:46] <balzac> i'm not a deep programmer myself. my friend tells me ruby is where it's at.
[04:46] <balzac> that's what i'm going to focus on.
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: lots of fixes for problems many have being grumpy about
[04:46] <direwolf> haha yeah you see it once n say to yourself "oh thats nice", after that its just annoying
[04:46] <DonL> direwolf, That's it! lol
[04:46] <Burgundavia> balzac, ruby or python are quite nice
[04:46] <fr500> lJlolel, enlightment dr17 looks similar too
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: Ive noticed the new versions of Gnome and KDE both are targeting user feedback on the desktop big time
[04:47] <Doomhammer> okay, so I installed fglrx, updated my x.org config file, and loaded the module with modprobe... do I still need to reboot?
[04:47] <lJlolel> that's great, linux has seen a lot of improvement on the desktop from when i tried it last year
[04:47] <balzac> Burgundavia, i've heard good things about python as well, and it's ubiquitous among FOSS apps. It's the scripting language of Blender and Gimp.
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> yeah I tried kxdocker.......hacked it up added some theme stuff then used it for a week and then went back tot the default taskbar
[04:48] <direwolf> i love xfce, few things would be nice though - desktop icons (native) and nautilus style file manager
[04:48] <direwolf> xffm is poopy
[04:48] <direwolf> imo
[04:48] <DonL> lJlolel, leaps and bounds I would say
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> direwolf: XFCE is aimed at keeping it simple
[04:48] <Burgundavia> balzac, there are very good gtk and qt binding for it
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> direwolf: its not designed to be a fully functional desktop
[04:48] <fr500> what linux would you use in this scenario: i have a 486laptop with 8mb ram, 400mb hdd, wifi and ethernet, both pcmcia, i want to make an ap, i have several of such laptops, and i'm building a WAN with my friends using all that "garbage" equipement
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> fr500:  damn small linux
[04:49] <Cayne> newbie question - i am having trouble editing fstab to mount nfts...won't let me save it
[04:49] <fr500> Linux_Galore, i forgot: no cd-rom
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> dont laught thats the projects name
[04:49] <direwolf> i dont see how complicated it would make it to make a (imo) better file manager
[04:49] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: I followed the directions and got it setup... do I need to reboot? it says I do, but AFAIK i can just restart the x server
[04:49] <direwolf> the desktop icons - eh i could do without
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> fr500: they have a floppy variant network install plug you can do a debian install via the web with some floppies
[04:50] <holycow> fr500, ubuntu (if it installs) should be fine, you need to use a lightweight desktop like xfce tho
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> plus*
[04:50] <holycow> oh wait 8 mb ram?
[04:50] <holycow> nm
[04:50] <holycow> you won't get it to install on that
[04:50] <fr500> i guessed so
[04:50] <holycow> damn small linux like someone else noted indeed :)
[04:50] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, you need to restart X
[04:50] <DonL> fr500, I would have to agree with Linux_Galore . DSL would be the best for you I think
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> yeah damn small  is as about as basic as you can go with Linux
[04:50] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, log out and hit ctrl-alt-bksp
[04:51] <fr500> i hope it works
[04:51] <LinuxJones> Cayne, you need root priviliges... sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:51] <fr500> so many wasted laptops here awaiting
[04:51] <Cayne> will try ta
[04:51] <balzac> fr500, good luck
[04:51] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: alright, thanks... brb
[04:51] <jrattner1> How do you install java from sypatic (it does not list it as a package) although i have the proper repositories
[04:51] <DonL> fr500, that's very little hardware for anything nowadays
[04:52] <Linux_Galore> lol I often find laptop thrown out as garbage..... got a nice PII in the garbage one day .....got of the bus and there it was sitting there on top of an old broken chair
[04:52] <fr500> DonL, i only need iproute2 and wireless tools b
[04:52] <DonL> jrattner1, go to the ubuntu wiki pages
[04:52] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, haha good deal
[04:52] <lJlolel> one man's trash..
[04:52] <jrattner1> DonL, i followed those instructions
[04:53] <Cayne> LinuxJones I get command not found
[04:53] <fr500> DonL, got like 10of them, all exact the same models, recovered the wi-fi cards from linksys wet11s
[04:53] <balzac> I searched for what is the best notebook for linux
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> yep ones mans trash becomes my Linux ASM chip burner
[04:53] <balzac> i'm wanting good hardware support
[04:53] <balzac> it seems IBM is where it's at
[04:53] <LinuxJones> Cayne, are you running gnome ?
[04:53] <Cayne> kde
[04:53] <DonL> fr500, cool. You can make this happen!
[04:53] <LinuxJones> Cayne, ok substitue gedit with kedit
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> Ive loaded a few thousand asic chips now with firmware with the free laptop
[04:53] <Burgundavia> Cayne, make that kate
[04:53] <Cayne> :)
[04:54] <fr500> i hope
[04:54] <balzac> fr500, I had 3 g3 wallstreets lying around
[04:54] <fr500> well, sending them here is as expensive as aps+wets i think
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> the thing eve had a built in 8x CDROm working fine......it had a broken windows 98 install on it
[04:54] <balzac> they gave me too much problems, just from being so old and unstable
[04:55] <LinuxJones> Cayne, I am half drunk and haven't used kde for over a year, sorry if I gave you some incorrect info :)
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> even*
[04:55] <Doomhammer> okay
[04:55] <Cayne> np...looking promising...cheers
[04:55] <balzac> i hope you have better luck. maybe these computers of yours are more robust
[04:55] <Doomhammer> so how do I verify that x.org is using the new driver and it's working properly?
[04:55] <DonL> Linux_Galore, Me too. Hope I don't lead too many people astray
[04:55] <fr500> hmmm
[04:55] <fr500> maybe not
[04:55] <fr500> but it's a fun project
[04:56] <balzac> it's nice to add value to old hardware with fresh software
[04:56] <redtech> oops
[04:56] <Linux_Galore> Ive noticed you can pick up an IBM Thinkpad laptop cheap ie T21 T22 or even a T42 cheap and they work perfectly with ubuntu.....buddy of mine got a T21 for $120
[04:56] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: i'm getting ~3000 FPS in glxgears... is that right?
[04:56] <Chaotic_Reality> what's the command to search apt-get for a certain package?
[04:56] <balzac> Linux_Galore, i'm on the lookout for deals like that
[04:57] <Linux_Galore> balzac: ebay is full of them......corps are dumping them
[04:57] <balzac> Me and my nephew need to get notebooks. I've an old clunky gateway I can't stand.
[04:57] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: dpkg -l pkgname*
[04:57] <Doomhammer> Chaotic_Reality: apt-cache search <insert package name here>
[04:57] <Chaotic_Reality> thanks
[04:57] <h08817> how do u get bitorrent to work
[04:58] <DonL> balzac, I was given an old P1 that couldn't even do Win 98, converted it to Linux. Slow but capable of browsing and e-mail. I can't give the thing away!
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> balzac: T22 and T42 are very thing laptops and both have more than enough grunt for ubuntu
[04:58] <h08817> it asks for a meta file
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> thin*
[04:58] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: actually, mine tells you whether the package is installed
[04:58] <balzac> cool
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> balzac: and both support DVD's
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> balzac: get them for US$200 easy
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> balzac: buildt like sherman tanks...but are thin
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> built*
[04:59] <h08817> how do i use bitorrent it asks for a meta file
[04:59] <Chaotic_Reality> thanks Xenguy and Doomhammer.  Are either of you familiar with pidentd?
[04:59] <fr500> the net install part is a bit tricky, isn't there a chance of taking out the hd and installing the os in another pc? i have a laptop ide cable adaptor
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> h08817: you usually download the file....I use azureus its way easier
[04:59] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: I've only heard of it
[05:00] <h08817> azureus?
[05:00] <Chaotic_Reality> i just installed it. not sure what to do with it after that point. heh
[05:00] <Doomhammer> Chaotic_Reality: never heard of it -- what does it do?
[05:00] <Chaotic_Reality> identd for irc so you don't have the little ~ at the front of your name
[05:00] <DonL> well I must go do family things. Thanks for the chat people
[05:00] <Chaotic_Reality> required on some irc networks
[05:00] <Doomhammer> Chaotic_Reality: ah
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> h08817: with azureus I just do a copy and paste the link from a bowser of the torren straight in, azureus looks after the rest
[05:01] <h08817> Linux_Galore, so i download that program?
[05:01] <fr500> Linux_Galore, the net install part is a bit tricky, isn't there a chance of taking out the hd and installing the os in another pc? i have a laptop ide cable adaptor
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> http://azureus.org/
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> fr500: yeah should work
[05:02] <balzac> azureus is nice
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> yeah best bt app ive used in ages
[05:02] <Doomhammer> okay guys
[05:03] <Doomhammer> UT2004 setup wants me to switch discs
[05:03] <Doomhammer> but, "device is in use"
[05:03] <Doomhammer> can't unmount the CD ?
[05:03] <h08817> Linux_Galore, is it free?
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> h08817: totally
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> h08817: even has a load of plugins you can download and use like firefox for more functionality
[05:05] <Linux_Galore> like firefox does"
[05:05] <balzac> i'm going to sell my gateway desktop replacement notebook and use the funds to get a thinkpad
[05:05] <watanabe88> hello
[05:05] <h08817> Linux_Galore, doesn't look free to me
[05:05] <watanabe88> i am new to ubuntu
[05:05] <jrattner1> how do i change my hostname
[05:05] <watanabe88> i am trying to install limewire
[05:05] <balzac> welcome watanabe88
[05:05] <h08817> Linux_Galore, it is asking me to pay money
[05:05] <Linux_Galore> h08817: better not tell the author Ive been using it for ages without paying a dime
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> h08817: its free
[05:06] <watanabe88> i followed directions in unofficial ubuntu starter guide
[05:06] <h08817> well how did u do it?
[05:06] <balzac> azureus is free
[05:06] <watanabe88> i have the icon in the applications
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> h08817: thats a donation
[05:06] <watanabe88> however it doesnot start
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> h08817: its optiona;
[05:06] <jrattner1> watanabe88, i just installed it a few minutes ago, you need to  install java too
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> optional
[05:06] <watanabe88> hello jrattner1
[05:06] <h08817> no its membership options
[05:06] <watanabe88> how do install the java
[05:07] <Burgundavia> watanabe88, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:07] <watanabe88> i went to JAva website to download
[05:07] <jrattner1> watanabe88, use the link Burgundavia provided
[05:08] <Linux_Galore> h08817: there the free page -> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[05:08] <Linux_Galore> h08817: sorry i sent you to the members page
[05:08] <h08817> its ok
[05:09] <h08817> now i just have to figure out how to install it
[05:09] <h08817> i am a noob
[05:09] <balzac> i have to add the extra repositories to get java - does that mean java is not on the ubuntu CD?
[05:09] <seth_k> that's right
[05:09] <h08817> do i just do sudo apt-get and i don't kinow the rest
[05:09] <jrattner1> Anyone ever set up hotkeys via KHOTkeys
[05:09] <socomm> balzac: That's right. It's not included for legal reasons.
[05:09] <balzac> thanks
[05:09] <Burgundavia> balzac, yes
[05:09] <Burgundavia> balzac, Java is non-free
[05:09] <balzac> too bad sun microsystems is doodoo
[05:10] <Linux_Galore> h08817: download it .....unpack it and them create a link from your desktop to the azureus binary file in the unpackged root directory....you can do it all as a user that way your more secure
[05:10] <Linux_Galore> then*
[05:10] <balzac> scott mcnealy doesn't get it
[05:10] <socomm> No one gets it.
[05:10] <h08817> ok i am unpacking it now
[05:10] <socomm> I being the exception of course. :^)
[05:11] <socomm> By the way you can get azureus via apt-get.
[05:11] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: its built into kcontrol now you dont need an extra apps
[05:11] <Linux_Galore> any*
[05:11] <LinuxJones> balzac, that's because MS told them not to get it :)
[05:11] <balzac> those who get it know it. those who don't get it don't know they don't get it.
[05:11] <Linux_Galore> h08817: make sure you have java installed
[05:11] <socomm> You need JRE.
[05:12] <socomm> JRE 1.5 is recommended by the Azureus developers, if I remember correctly.
[05:12] <balzac> yeah, MS is using imperial-style strategy to dely their inevitable demise
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> socomm: Im still using 1.4.2 and it works fine with the latest version.....Im way of 1.5 i had way too much breakage
[05:13] <jrattner1> Linux_Galore, its very complicated, to set up hotkeys in kde i cant figure out why
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: open kcontrol
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: or just type it in the terminal  kcontrol [ENTER] 
[05:14] <jrattner1> Linux_Galore, i know where KHotkeys is i just cant get them to work
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: aaah
[05:14] <synnfest> This is the third time I've been in here for help....anybody else having any issues with Firefox?
[05:15] <skapple> what issues are you having?
[05:15] <balzac> here's a gripe - i had to compile a driver, and i needed additional tools installed to compile this driver. Does default ubuntu not install gcc?
[05:16] <h08817> Linux_Galore, what should i open the bin file with what program
[05:16] <h08817> i didn't extract it yet i just downloaded it
[05:16] <synnfest> It completely hangs up on some pages.  I've noticed that it happens most on ad-intense pages (forums work without a problem), but on anything with a lot of ads, it locks up before the page finishes loading
[05:16] <dedsvrd> im having wireless problems
[05:16] <Cayne> another newbie question...I cant find a sound utility to adjust sound on my laptop...is there one on synaptic that i missed?
[05:17] <balzac> goodnight
[05:17] <dedsvrd> i cant get my wireless card to work with ubuntu
[05:17] <balzac> btw, synnfest, take your firefox errors to #firefox
[05:17] <synnfest> what kind of card?
[05:18] <synnfest> balzac: thanks
[05:18] <dedsvrd> netanywhere
[05:18] <lJlolel> exit
[05:18] <lJlolel> exit
[05:18] <balzac> actually, synnfest, the mozilla foundation has their own irc server
[05:18] <watanabe88> still having difficulty finding the sun-j2re1.5
[05:18] <balzac> my buddy Asa is the release engineer
[05:18] <synnfest> I think someone else was having issues on ubuntuforums.org with that, have you checked there?
[05:18] <dedsvrd> not yet but i can
[05:18] <cafuego> Wow, 'beagle' actually works once you disable inotify.
[05:18] <balzac> he's probably familiar with your bug, but he's got to prioritize the bugs
[05:18] <watanabe88> using the synaptic package manager despite add the Hoary-extras repository
[05:19] <dedsvrd> noob question
[05:19] <nickrud> cafuego, inotify in breezy?
[05:19] <dedsvrd> extracting things
[05:19] <balzac> synnfest, i mean mozilla has their own irc network
[05:19] <balzac> you can find their main project channels there
[05:19] <cafuego> nickrud: No, inofity must be DISABLED or beagle crashes.
[05:20] <nickrud> cafuego, a kernel recompile then
[05:20] <h08817> Linux_Galore, i made a link but i can't open the file
[05:20] <cafuego> nickrud: it's happily indexing 4GB of mail now
[05:20] <cafuego> nickrud: yeah
[05:20] <skapple> the tao of the machine.
[05:20] <cafuego> putting the sysload on 3, but eh
[05:20] <skapple> is there any way to make ubuntu load into root instead of as user *
[05:21] <cafuego> skapple: Yes. It's a VERY STUPID idea, though.
[05:21] <h08817> how do i extract a bin file
[05:21] <cafuego> h08817: What bin file?
[05:22] <thenostradamus> i am having trouble with ssh.......when trying to connect to my computer, it won't recognize my password
[05:22] <thenostradamus> it gives me the errer:Permission denied, please try again
[05:22] <h08817> i downloaded azureus
[05:22] <nickrud> cafuego, just no inotify, what about dnotify?
[05:22] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Check the logs on your computer.
[05:22] <Doomhammer> thenostradamus: some SSH servers are configured by default not to allow root logins...?
[05:22] <cafuego> nickrud: I got no dnotify either
[05:23] <thenostradamus> not as root
[05:23] <cafuego> nickrud: Isn't inotify supposed to repalce dnotify anyway?
[05:23] <nickrud> yes
[05:23] <thenostradamus> cafuego, what logs?
[05:23] <Doomhammer> thenostradamus: if you're not trying to log in as root, check the logs
[05:23] <nickrud> why I asked :)
[05:23] <cafuego> thenostradamus: syslog
[05:23] <Doomhammer> thenostradamus: look in /var/log
[05:23] <thenostradamus> ok
[05:23] <skapple> cafuego: why ios it very dumb?
[05:23] <cafuego> skapple: Running all software as root leaves you explosed to security holes. Any buggy app can modify any file on the system (kinda like Windows).
[05:25] <skapple> cafuego: i do not necassarily want to login as root, i just want it to load into a console instead of Xwindows
[05:25] <dedsvrd> i need help with extracting
[05:25] <cafuego> skapple: There nothing you can't do by logging in as user and using sudo.
[05:26] <cafuego> skapple: By default or just once?
[05:26] <cafuego> skapple: You can always hit ctrl-alt-F1 for a console.
[05:26] <cafuego> skapple: If you enever want X to boot, disable gdm. (install rcconf, run rcconf)
[05:27] <jrattner1> how do i change my hostname
[05:27] <cafuego> jrattner1: $EDITOR /etc/hostname
[05:27] <jrattner1> thanks
[05:28] <cafuego> jrattner1: And 'sudo hostname <newhostname>'
[05:28] <cafuego> that will save you a reboot.
[05:28] <cafuego> You may also want to edit /etc/mailname
[05:29] <symex_linux> ae galera so o mais novo entregante o ubuntu
[05:30] <hubsi> could you plz talk english?
[05:30] <desrt> hubsi; likewise.
[05:30] <cafuego> desrt: Could you do the same then?
[05:30] <cafuego> arrgh
[05:30] <desrt> cafuego; eh?
[05:30] <cafuego> desrt: nevermind :-)
[05:30] <desrt> :)
[05:30] <cafuego> desrt: I cross-eyed and retarded today.
[05:30] <cafuego> I'm
[05:30] <desrt> stop trying :)
[05:31] <symex_linux> pow algum brasileiro
[05:31] <cafuego> !br
[05:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues.
[05:31] <symex_linux> #ubuntu-br
[05:31] <desrt> /join #ubuntu-br
[05:31] <thenostradamus> cafuego, what am i looking for.......i don't see ssh
[05:31] <symex_linux> tanks
[05:31] <desrt> no problem.  cheers.
[05:31] <cafuego> !br =~ s/portugues./portugues. Obrigado./
[05:31] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[05:32] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Check /var/log/auth.log also
[05:32] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Anything there?
[05:32] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Were you trying to ssh in as root?
[05:32] <thenostradamus> no, as a regular user
[05:33] <ilba7r> on my notebook gnome default setting make all windows soo large. I want to reduce their size. Is there anyother way then reducing the font size and can i use reducing the font resolution to do that?
[05:33] <hubsi> 1 question.. if i extract something.. with .. tar... <file> -C <path>.. and this dict. already exists... does this command overwrite it.. or copy the files in this dict.
[05:35] <dbw> hubsi: it will overwrite them, AFAIK
[05:35] <hubsi> but there are other files in this dict.
[05:35] <hubsi> what can i do!?
[05:36] <dbw> hubsi: if the same file is not in the tarball, then you're fine, it won't delete anything it doesnt' need to
[05:36] <hubsi> no.. other files.. just same dict.
[05:36] <dbw> hubsi: or you can use the "-k" option, which will make it keep the existing files
[05:36] <mwright1> Where can I download breezy
[05:36] <dbw> hubsi: oh, then it's fine
[05:36] <hubsi> why do you want to install breezy
[05:37] <dbw> mwright1: google
[05:37] <jrattner1> is there a way to make grub use a graphical interface?
[05:37] <hubsi> it's not stable
[05:37] <spiral> is there any installation guide for qmail in ubuntu?
[05:37] <dbw> jrattner1: yes, but it's harder than you want to deal with
[05:37] <dbw> spiral: apt-get install qmail ??
[05:37] <jrattner1> dbw, its not worth it?
[05:37] <nickrud> hubsi, but, it's not in uppercase anymore, and it's almost at the end of the topic :)
[05:37] <dbw> jrattner1: well, think of it this way... how often do you see the boot screen?
[05:38] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: it's really not that hard... just remove the hide menu line in /boot/grub/grub.conf and download a bootsplash image... then add "bootsplash=something.xpm.gz" and you're good to go
[05:38] <dbw> jrattner1: google grub bootsplash
[05:38] <hubsi> Please don't use Breezy yet
[05:38] <symex_linux> who me of the one tip of as to install the SMBClient
[05:38] <jrattner1> thanx Doomhammer
[05:38] <dbw> symex_linux: ??? what is your native language
[05:39] <noisesmith> I am trying to install ubuntu and need to install swap for the install to continue, on a laptop with no installed os
[05:39] <noisesmith> I cannot find fdisk or cfdisk or anything though
[05:39] <symex_linux> face now q tou training my English
[05:40] <hubsi> is "tar -xzvf <file.tgz> -C <path/to/copy> right?
[05:40] <Doomhammer> noisesmith: ubuntu partitions the disk for you... i'm not sure what your probmem is?
[05:40] <dbw> symex_linux: es? br? cz? nl? de?
[05:40] <jrattner1> Doomhammer, does it matter what version of grub i have
[05:40] <noisesmith> doomhammer: run out of ram before swap installation
[05:40] <dbw> jrattner1: nope
[05:41] <hubsi> seems fr
[05:41] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: nope
[05:41] <dbw> noisesmith: use a livecd to partition it?
[05:41] <Doomhammer> noisesmith: ah... you need to download "The Ultimate Boot CD" -- it's got tons of tools, you should be able to create a linux swap partition
[05:41] <dbw> symex_linux: parlez vous francais?
[05:41] <noisesmith> thanks
[05:41] <cafuego> symex_linux: 'apt-get install smbfs'
[05:41] <dbw> cafuego: is that what he was asking?
[05:42] <cafuego> dbw: From what i can tell, yes.
[05:42] <cafuego> dbw: He wants smbclient.
[05:42] <dbw> cafuego: i thought he wanted to know who told him something about smbclient
[05:43] <dbw> HUMANITY TO OTHERS *THAT*!
[05:43] <cafuego> dbw: Scuse me?
[05:43] <BigWings> problema seu
[05:43] <JoshRA> Hello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?
[05:43] <jrattner1> Doomhammer, i dont have a grub.conf file in /boot/grub
[05:43] <hubsi> kernal *loL*
[05:43] <dbw> cafuego: pretty much everyone is.  but i didn't say non-native, i said non-speakers
[05:44] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet>
[05:44] <Burgundavia> dbw, please remember the ubuntu code of conduct
[05:44] <spiral> ?
[05:44] <fy> hello all
[05:44] <anders__> morning
[05:44] <hubsi> much to learn you have :P
[05:44] <cafuego> spiral: Most people would use postfix and not bother with unpackaged non-GPL software.
[05:44] <dbw> Burgundavia: it doesn't mention bats, dude :-\
[05:44] <hubsi> YODA ROX
[05:44] <h08817> i need a guide to installing bitorrent and what program i should use
[05:44] <JoshRA> Anyone?
[05:44] <fy> im french i have a pb with my ibook g4, the sound dont work correctly,  :s sry for my bad english
[05:45] <cafuego> spiral: Any reason you think you need qmail?
[05:45] <dbw> !fr
[05:45] <ubotu> [fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:45] <anders__> some intrest to hear a radio running whit ubuntu
[05:45] <fy> thx
[05:46] <jrattner1> Doomhammer, did you mean /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:46] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: oh yea, sorry -- ubuntu uses a different file than other OS'es i've used
[05:46] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: oh yea, sorry -- ubuntu uses a different file than other OS'es i've used
[05:47] <anders__> chek this www.xboks.dk the site is english
[05:48] <spiral> cafuego, yeah, from what I know it is the most secure mail server
[05:48] <spiral> cafuego, and is easier to install than sendmail.
[05:49] <spiral> cafuego - well that is what I have heard, and I have never installed it
[05:50] <symex_linux> it has a person good of ubuntu to give msn to me hotmail
[05:51] <hubsi> whats the command for rename?
[05:51] <anders__> coffe time
[05:52] <JoshRA> Hello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?
[05:52] <Doomhammer> does anyone here play Unreal Tournament 2004 ?
[05:54] <mwright1> I want to install breezy cause 5.04 is really nice, but we have FC4 boxes, and breezy compares becuase it has oo2.0
[05:54] <linfreak> i just installed the base system on my other pc and when i run sudo apt-get install fluxbox it can't find the package
[05:54] <linfreak> andyone know why this might be happening?
[05:54] <anders__> aa no idear
[05:54] <Doomhammer> linfreak: you need to enable the Ubuntu universal repositories
[05:55] <linfreak> how do i do that in the terminal?
[05:55] <Doomhammer> uh
[05:55] <direwolf> what was that about
[05:55] <Doomhammer> linfreak: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <linfreak> is there a wiki on that?
[05:55] <Doomhammer> linfreak: yea, but i'm too lazy to find the link :P
[05:56] <linfreak> i'll take a look
[05:56] <linfreak> thanks
[05:56] <linfreak> but i can do that without having x-window system or any GUi right?
[05:56] <vader_> Doomhammer, so am I lol
[05:56] <vader_> it is almost bedtime
[05:57] <ed1t> linfreak lol yea if u use lynx or wget and go thru html files
[05:57] <ed1t> heh
[05:57] <Doomhammer> OMFG !!!!
[05:57] <ed1t> i dunno how u gonna do that
[05:57] <Doomhammer> Unreal Tournament 2004 worked on the first try!
[05:57] <Doomhammer> holy crap!
[05:57] <Doomhammer> i didn't even have to figure out how to get it to work!
[05:57] <Doomhammer> w00t!!!
[05:57] <linfreak> l33t
[05:57] <linfreak> :p
[05:57] <Doomhammer> :P
[05:57] <linfreak> i really wish i hadn't done this now
[05:58] <Doomhammer> linfreak: what? installing ubuntu?
[05:58] <linfreak> that wiki said nothing about enabling repositories
[05:58] <linfreak> the base system, yeah
[05:58] <ed1t> linfreak wat u tryin to do?
[05:58] <Doomhammer> linfreak: oh alright... give me a minute, i'll throw my sources.list up on my webserver (ubuntu)
[05:58] <linfreak> install afluxbox
[05:58] <Doomhammer> ed1t: he's trying to get fluxbox
[05:58] <Doomhammer> ah! here ya go linfreak
[05:58] <Doomhammer> http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t316051.html
[05:59] <Doomhammer> about 2/3 down the page, you'll see a post by JonCooperUK
[05:59] <Doomhammer> he tells you what to add to your sources.list
[05:59] <ed1t> linfreak sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:59] <h08817> any help with bitorrent
[05:59] <Doomhammer> ed1t: he needs to enable the universal repositories
[05:59] <linfreak> right, how do i do that without a GUI?
[06:00] <Doomhammer> linfreak: what editor do you like? VI? Nano?
[06:00] <Doomhammer> linfreak: if you don't know, do this: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:00] <direwolf> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:00] <vader_> gedit here lol
[06:00] <Doomhammer> CTRL+X is to save
[06:00] <linfreak> gedit, but i don't have that....
[06:00] <linfreak> or do i?
[06:00] <linfreak> :P
[06:00] <ed1t> linfreak use nano then
[06:00] <deprave> i'm bored, what can i install that's fun?
[06:00] <linfreak> okay
[06:01] <ed1t> deprave gnome!
[06:01] <linfreak> the sasserworm on windows and then try to get rid of it
[06:01] <anders__> who can i installe my scanner??
[06:01] <ed1t> if u using KDE
[06:01] <djcheezecake> wow..alotta ppl in this room..i remember when only 10 used to show up. =P
[06:01] <linfreak> brb, gonna try nano
[06:01] <h08817> how can i install bitorrent it is asking for a metafile
[06:02] <direwolf> azureus is better imo
[06:02] <vader_> h08817, no idea
[06:02] <anders__> na emule
[06:02] <h08817> well direwolf how do i install it
[06:03] <magneto> h08817 - sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[06:03] <magneto> btlaunchmanycurses > azureus
[06:03] <linfreak> netfloods sucks here
[06:04] <linfreak> netsplit i mean
[06:04] <deltab> h08817: sounds like you already have it installed
[06:04] <yaaar> word
[06:05] <magneto> !word up
[06:05] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, magneto
[06:05] <Doomhammer> guys, for some reason there's no sound in UT2004
[06:05] <h08817> magneto, how does that work
[06:05] <Doomhammer> i've had problems with XMMS as well...
[06:05] <h08817> ?
[06:05] <h08817> deltab, i do
[06:05] <djcheezecake> doomhammer: maybe you need to kill esd?
[06:05] <h08817> deltab, i do but i don't know how to fix it
[06:06] <anders__> cant you serch after bit torrnet?
[06:07] <anders__> in terminal
[06:07] <magneto> h08817: its part of bittorrent  - you just put your torrents in a directory and go to where you want em downloaded then run btlaunchmanycurses /some/dir/ --max_uploads 8   or osmething like that
[06:07] <shadeofgrey> hey guys
[06:07] <shadeofgrey> i need help
[06:08] <yaaar> anybody know how i can get xscreensaver to use the screen as the image for screensavers to manipulate? i've tried the 'grab frames' checkbox, and also editing ~/.xscreensaver for it...
[06:08] <magneto> h08817 - it uses wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less memory than azureus
[06:08] <shadeofgrey> when i first started using ubuntu i was on 2.5 something and now that things have moved to 2.6 -- someth9ing is wrong with the "accepted" procedure for installing my nvidia drivers
[06:08] <h08817> magneto, what does?
[06:08] <magneto> horr17: bittorrent does
[06:09] <jbloudg20> hey does anyone know how to specify to alsa which soundcard to use? I have my onboard, and a chaintec av710, and alsa is defaulting to onboard, or so I believe
[06:09] <magneto> h08817: azureus is a memory hog
[06:09] <h08817> magneto, well how can i fix my problem of wanting a metafile can i just download a different program or can i fix mine?
[06:09] <anders__> sorry back again
[06:09] <h08817> i have the program that came with ubuntu
[06:09] <djcheezecake> YES azureus is major memory hog..
[06:09] <shadeofgrey> if i use synaptic and follow the directions for installing the nvidia stuff, the aRchives copy okay but ....  the command to enable the drivers makes some mysterious changes to my xorg.conf file and makes the system totally unusable in anything butr text mode...  X11 wont even start after all the accepted updates
[06:09] <djcheezecake> ho8817: use either bittornado or gnome's bittorrent client..
[06:09] <magneto> h08817: what is your exact error and when does it occur?
[06:10] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?
[06:10] <shadeofgrey> anybody have any ideda how to make the nvidia stuff work properly under 2.6?
[06:10] <h08817> magneto, i am running gnome BiTorrent and  it says open a location for bittorrent meta file
[06:11] <jbloudg20> any chaintec av710 users?
[06:11] <Alinux> someone alive
[06:11] <Alinux> who could help me?
[06:11] <anders__> yes
[06:11] <magneto> its asking for  your torrent files
[06:11] <Alinux> I need to create a script
[06:11] <Alinux> boot script
[06:12] <Alinux> very simple
[06:12] <Doomhammer> why is the sound on my system very low quality?
[06:12] <magneto> the files you download that tell the program what server to connect to and all that good stuff
[06:12] <Doomhammer> i changed it to high in the sound config, but it doesn't seem to have helped...
[06:12] <Alinux> someone could help me?
[06:12] <djcheezecake> ho8817: you need to specify the torrent file you're trying to access..
[06:12] <h08817> where is it located?
[06:12] <h08817> i just want to run bittorrent and download stuff why is it so complicated
[06:12] <djcheezecake> ho8817: wherever you decided to download you're torrent file....
[06:13] <h08817> i never downloaded one
[06:13] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:13] <djcheezecake> ho8817: you goto a website...download a torrent file of your choice...and then use that bittorrent client to download the actual file..
[06:14] <h08817> what torrent file do i choose and where do i get them?
[06:14] <magneto> h08817: in order to download stuff you should go to a site and find torrent files - then open those files with bittorrent and you will download them
[06:14] <magneto> try isohunt.com piratebay.com etc
[06:14] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:14] <magneto> you can download ubuntu like that too :)
[06:14] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?
[06:15] <vader_> spiral, I only use evilution
[06:15] <vader_> evolution^^
[06:15] <Doomhammer> i don't mean to repeat myself... but...
[06:15] <Doomhammer> i don't mean to repeat myself... but...
[06:15] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:16] <Doomhammer> lol
[06:16] <Doomhammer> that's not what I wanted to repeat :P
[06:17] <shadeofgrey> how do i update my ubuntu installation to the latest stable release using apt-get?
[06:17] <Doomhammer> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:17] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, how many menus do you have?
[06:17] <vader_> I am going to try and install thunderbird mail tomorrow here, it is like almost 12:30 here am
[06:17] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> burg:  what do you mean how many menuss?
[06:18] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, if you have 3, you already have the latest stable
[06:18] <vader_> Doohammer, I only have gnome right now, I am of no help lol
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> burg:  version 3 of what?  the nvidia stuff?
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> or ubuntu in general?
[06:19] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, if you have 3 menus, you already have the latest stable
[06:19] <DekaPink> Okay, someone told me before, but now I can't remember... How do I stop Ubuntu from trying to sync with the clock server at startup, since it doesn't work? ^^ Unload the module or what have you.
[06:19] <fy> !fr
[06:19] <ubotu> somebody said fr was Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:19] <Doomhammer> vader_ bah... on Gnome the sound was very quiet, even when I turned it all the way up... had to turn up my stereo, and thus it BLASTED my ears when I rebooted into winBlows
[06:19] <djcheezecake> DekaPink: i just hit Ctrl + c to cancel ...
[06:20] <shadeofgrey> is 2.6.10-5-386 the latest stable?
[06:20] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, yes
[06:20] <vader_> Doohammer, what are you using desktop or laptop?
[06:20] <shadeofgrey> okay thanks
[06:20] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, the next stable is due for release in Oct 2005
[06:20] <Doomhammer> vader_: i'm using a desktop, with the onboard nForce 2 auto
[06:20] <Doomhammer> audio*
[06:20] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, it will contain the 2.6.12 kernel and 2.12 gnome
[06:21] <vader_> hmmmmmm, I haven;t heard of probs, will look into it on Monday
[06:21] <vader_> I do it at work and it is considered research lol
[06:21] <Doomhammer> so it seems i can run ut2004 with no performance loss using fglrx... does that mean doom3 will work ?! :D
[06:22] <vader_> you did say nforce2 right Doohammer?
[06:23] <Doomhammer> vader_: yes, nForce 2
[06:23] <vader_> ok, I have enailed myself a remineder
[06:23] <DekaPink> djcheezecake: That... Doesn't make sense in regards to my question... I want to stop it from even trying to do it? :3
[06:23] <Doomhammer> vader_: the computer in the other room is also running an nForce 2 motherboard, but it's sound quality is fine under ubuntu (both running KDE)
[06:23] <n8l> alright I have a GeForce4 MX 4000. When I install it and boot up my computer it starts up godd n all but then its just blank after that. Help PLZ!
[06:23] <djcheezecake> DekaPink: gotcha...
[06:24] <djcheezecake> DekaPink: dont have an answer for you for that...i just do what i told you if sumthins actin up at boot
[06:24] <DekaPink> djcheezecake: Cool, well... Thanks anyway. :)
[06:24] <vader_> Doohammer, I would compare the 2 files
[06:25] <vader_> side by each
[06:25] <anders__> how come that i can't get my cano scan too workt?
[06:26] <Doomhammer> vader: what files ? :S
[06:26] <vader_> the sound files, are you using Alsa?
[06:26] <vader_> or esound or what??
[06:27] <OddAbe19> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[06:27] <OddAbe19> sorry
[06:27] <OddAbe19> damn cat hit the 0 and enter
[06:27] <OddAbe19> when i moved him
[06:28] <vader_> lol
[06:29] <vader_> Doohammer, look at this and I will return tomorrow http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21541.html
[06:29] <anders__> hello Loke Dk im from there too
[06:32] <anders__> thos some no if there is a ubuntu danish chat rum some where ?
[06:35] <Doomhammer> vader_: i've tried all the sound libs that are installed, OSS, ALSA, eSound, etc
[06:39] <mkerby> I've got to get a bootable cd from an iso. What is a good proggie to do this in linux?
[06:39] <black13> i am interested in anyone who has experience with how xinit works
[06:40] <Burgundavia> mkerby, right click on it, and see if there is a write to disk option
[06:43] <mkerby> Burgundavia, will this give me a bootable image?
[06:43] <black13> xinit works but startx fails
[06:43] <shadeofgrey> why does "apt-get install libdvdcss2 give me a no installatiojn candidate error?
[06:43] <Burgundavia> mkerby, yes
[06:43] <cafuego> !info libdvdcss2
[06:44] <cafuego> Coz it not in ubuntu proper.
[06:44] <cafuego> !find libdvdcss2
[06:44] <mkerby> Burgundavia, thanks a bunch! I'll try it.
[06:44] <shadeofgrey> !info libdvdcss2
[06:44] <shadeofgrey> whats the package name to install dvd playback cap[ability for totem then?  and mp3 and stuff?
[06:45] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, libdvdcss2 and it is in hoary-extras
[06:45] <cafuego> !restrictedformats
[06:45] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2' returned no results.
[06:45] <shadeofgrey> what are the lines to add hoary-extras to my sources.list file?
[06:45] <cafuego> !find libdvdcss2 extras
[06:45] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2 extras' returned no results.
[06:49] <pax> anyone care to paste their original (vosts stripped) /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ please
[06:51] <Ropy> hey ya'll
[06:52] <pax> nobody running apache2?
[06:52] <pax> hi Ropy
[06:53] <Ropy> i just installed ubuntu and seeking some help
[06:53] <Burgundavia> pax, likely, but this is quiet period
[06:53] <pax> just ask Ropy
[06:53] <Burgundavia> Ropy, what do you need help with?
[06:54] <Ropy> I dual booted with xp, my other HDs are NTFS
[06:54] <Ropy> how can I see what's on them?
[06:54] <Burgundavia> !ntfs
[06:54] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:54] <Burgundavia> that last link will mount them for you
[06:55] <cafuego> pax: I run apachge2. What's the problem?
[06:55] <cafuego> pax: Hmm, I don't think I astill have the original.
[06:55] <cafuego> ahaa! default.dpkg-dist :-)
[06:55] <pax> cafuego: np mate, cheers
[06:56] <Ropy> how, went there and just saw some code....
[06:56] <pax> cafuego: strip your info and post it somewhere if you dont mind
[06:56] <cafuego> pax: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1013  (Note, it'sthe debian one)
[06:57] <pax> thanks cafuego
[06:57] <seife> yo
[06:57] <seife> i downloaded the live cd
[06:57] <seife> burnt it
[06:57] <seife> ran it
[06:57] <seife> but its not opening a weird file
[06:57] <Ropy> also, how do I install files?
[06:57] <Ropy> or convert rpms to dpkg?
[06:57] <seife> Dunno, i cant get the live cd workin
[06:57] <cafuego> Ropy: What package specifically?
[06:57] <pax> cafuego: wep, that's the one. you rock
[06:58] <Ropy> want to install and app but it's in rpm
[06:58] <Ropy> and based on my undersanding ubuntu only supports dpkg
[06:59] <cafuego> Ropy: WHICH app
[06:59] <cafuego> Ropy: Changes are, it's available as .deb as well.
[06:59] <Ropy> xchat and wine
[07:00] <cafuego> Ropy: sudo apt-get install xchat wine
[07:00] <cafuego> Ropy: Make sure youy have the universe and multiverse repositories.
[07:01] <Ropy> u lost me at the last part... I'm fairly new to nix
[07:01] <cafuego> !repos
[07:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:01] <cafuego> Ropy: Read that page; then start synaptic and install xchat and wine.
[07:02] <black13> what is the purpose of the /etc/X11/Xsession file
[07:02] <Ropy> ok, I'll do that
[07:02] <Ropy> thanks for the help
[07:03] <seife> its anyone helping me?
[07:04] <logical_mark> seife, just ask a question, somone will help you
[07:04] <djcheezecake> i think he did...he mentioned something about live CD...
[07:05] <djcheezecake> he can't get the live CD working..thats all i got from the log
[07:05] <Madpilot> hi seife
[07:05] <djcheezecake> seife, that is..
[07:06] <logical_mark> either you didnt burn it as an image or you dont have the correct boot order on your comp
[07:06] <logical_mark> is it messing up or not booting off the cd at all?
[07:06] <Tarcastil> hello, can anyone help me out with some trouble of getting dma working on a cdrom drive?
[07:06] <cafuego> Tarcastil: hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hdc
[07:06] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?
[07:06] <cafuego> Tarcastil: if that won't work, it's not going to.
[07:07] <cafuego> spiral: You still haven't explained why you think you need qmail when postfix works fine.
[07:07] <Tarcastil> cafuego: nope, it's a /dev/scd0
[07:07] <Tarcastil> cafuego: and it doesn't work for some reason
[07:07] <PM-aSeepin> What's up, people
[07:07] <cafuego> Tarcastil: SCSI doesn't DO dma.
[07:08] <Tarcastil> cafuego: does that mean dvds will all be choppy?
[07:08] <cafuego> Tarcastil: No
[07:08] <Tarcastil> cafuego: good :)
[07:08] <guardianx3> can someone help me log  see files that is on the windows network?
[07:08] <Tarcastil> cafuego: thanks
[07:08] <cafuego> Tarcastil: it will run at whatever speed it is; dma is an IDE thing that is normally on anyway, but soemtimes off if you have a badly supported IDE chip.
[07:09] <guardianx3> or point me to the information i had trouble looking for it on google
[07:10] <spiral> cafuego, I did write that i have heard that qmail is more secure than postfix
[07:10] <Chickenman_> can an1 see me?
[07:10] <cafuego> spiral: That's complete nonsense.
[07:10] <cafuego> Chickenman_: we all can
[07:11] <guardianx3> how do u add a fav room into xchat? i would like to add this channel in xchat
[07:11] <Chickenman_> djcheezecake, my internet went down i am h08817
[07:11] <jasmuz> guardianx3: if you are using Xchat under Ubuntu its set as default
[07:12] <cafuego> spiral: just go with postfix. it fast, secure and _easy_ to set up.
[07:12] <guardianx3> how do i get to the default?
[07:12] <guardianx3> is there a favorite option like mirc?
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there anything like limewire that can be safely/effectively used in ubuntu?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm concerned that since it's not a deb package, limewire might muck up my system
[07:13] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: there is limewire for GNU/LINUX
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> yup there is
[07:13] <cafuego> Does the Linux limewire also contain spyware?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> the issue is just whether it's a good idea to install it.
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol
[07:13] <guardianx3> how do i get files on my home pc .. the pc is in a windows network
[07:13] <amichai> hey guys. i feel my ubuntu has wlown down. anyway i can speed it up. hd is not fuller than has been. any tips?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> guardianx3 you could set up a samba share
[07:14] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: aMULE, gtk-gnutella, Apollon
[07:14] <cafuego> guardianx3: Install and configure samba.
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> jasmuz hey thanks!
[07:14] <guardianx3> broken- will u point me to how to set up samba share in unbuntu??
[07:14] <jasmuz> amichai: check if you have DMA enabled
[07:14] <guardianx3> samba is not already installed in unbunto?
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> it should be installed yup.
[07:15] <guardianx3> how do i get it to work?
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> guardianx3 you should be able to go into nautilus and type in a share address, or search for local shares
[07:15] <guardianx3> i'm sorry i'm newb to linux
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> are you wanting to search from the linux box for a share on the windows machine?
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> or share from your linux box?
[07:15] <pax> guardianx3: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129315&postcount=1
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> setting it up isn't too complicated if you follow a howto, but i think there's probably some gui app that can make it easy for you.
[07:16] <amichai> jasmuz: hdparm?
[07:16] <jasmuz> amichai: yea
[07:16] <guardianx3> broken- i have trouble finding the gui tut  on goggle i dont know what is the best search keyword to use
[07:16] <pax> wep, use SWAT it's crap but can get you going
[07:16] <pax> !swat
[07:16] <ubotu> hmm... swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[07:17] <amichai> jasmuz: how do i find out if my hd is hda or hdb?
[07:17] <Imsdle> i stuffed up when setting up firebirdcs.. now i want to reinstall it but i dn't want to have redownload it
[07:17] <Imsdle> how do you remove somehting and reinstall it without having to apt-get install and dowload the files again?
[07:18] <Chaotic_Reality> anyone had success setting up the ati control and getting their external monitor to work?
[07:19] <guardianx3> the window pc with files is ip 10.3.1.100 how do i get the files???the workgroup name  is = goku
[07:20] <jasmuz> amichai: probably you installed into hda
[07:20] <deltab> Imsdle: you should be able to find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:20] <Imsdle> ok
[07:21] <deltab> Imsdle: dpkg -r then dpkg -i, I think
[07:21] <Imsdle> thanks
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> does bittorrent have the potential to be used like limewire?  where you don't have to create some seed file, post it on some site, etc?
[07:22] <h08817> djcheezecake, back
[07:23] <Imsdle> how do u share a dailup internet connection in ubuntu
[07:23] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: bittorent is made for swapping BIG files
[07:24] <jasmuz> Imsdle: what are you trying to share?
[07:24] <jasmuz> Imsdle: internet via what do you want to share it
[07:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> jasmuz why would that make it bad for sharing small files?
[07:25] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: i havent said its bad for small files, but it rocks on delivering a movie if you have a good speed
[07:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> right, but it sucks to use it to just share files
[07:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> don't you have to do all this complicated stuff, like create a seed file, post it to a web site, etc?
[07:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> although i heard there is a trackerless version coming
[07:27] <crimsun> newer azureus versions automate much of that.
[07:28] <Imsdle> i want to be able to access the net from my network
[07:29] <guardianx3>  i dont understand this part of the tutorial... the code is (sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami`)     the acc on my unbun is (movie)  so i should replease the  'whoami' into  'movie'
[07:29] <deltab> Imsdle: I don't know of a particularly convenient way to do that, but it's not hard to set up
[07:29] <guardianx3> replace
[07:30] <black13> what is the purpose of the Xsession script
[07:30] <johnnybezak> hey guys i just plugged a web cam in, anyone know how i can tell if it's recognised like a lsusb or something
[07:30] <Imsdle> oh ok..
[07:30] <jasmuz> johnnybezak: unplug it
[07:30] <deltab> guardianx3: the grave accents around  `whoami`  tells the shell to execute the command  whoami  then replace the command by its output
[07:31] <jasmuz> johnnybezak: open a terminal, type tail -f /var/log/messages , and plug it in now
[07:31] <deltab> guardianx3: so if your username is guardianx the command will become  sudo smbpasswd -a guardianx
[07:32] <guardianx3> deltab - thank you
[07:32] <cody_ubuntu> I have a problem, I need to use 32bit gcc on 64bit ubuntu
[07:32] <cody_ubuntu> to compile my OS
[07:33] <cody_ubuntu> using the 64bit gcc, my inline asm becomes worthless, and I don't feel like rewriting libc
[07:33] <crimsun> cody_ubuntu: so build a 32-bit chroot and compile it there, then copy it over.
[07:34] <cody_ubuntu> which would be done how?
[07:34] <cody_ubuntu> I've only been using linux for about 9 months
[07:34] <crimsun> search the wiki for debootstrap.
[07:34] <cody_ubuntu> k
[07:35] <crimsun> there's also good documentation on the Debian web site in the developers' guide
[07:36] <guardianx3> delta do i type it in the shell promt?
[07:37] <deltab> type what?
[07:37] <spiral> hi
[07:38] <spiral> how do I configure postfix to make it send mail from a particular username?  I.e. username@domainname.com
[07:38] <cody_ubuntu> crimsun, so what exactly does chroot do?
[07:38] <crimsun> cody_ubuntu: see chroot(8)
[07:39] <cody_ubuntu> nah, I'll just man chroot
[07:39] <crimsun> that's what chroot(8) is.
[07:39] <deltab> guardianx3: did you want to join a channel automatically in x-chat?
[07:40] <deltab> spiral: send what mail?
[07:40] <persia> Could someone please remind me where to report Universe bugs?
[07:40] <crimsun> persia: malone.
[07:40] <persia> crimsun: thanks
[07:40] <crimsun> persia: (launchpad.net/malone)
[07:43] <guardianx3> how do i install vlc into ubuntu??
[07:43] <Di42lo> i tried this too
[07:43] <Di42lo> doesnt work :|
[07:43] <Di42lo> i gets kind of error
[07:43] <jasmuz> guardianx3: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:44] <spiral> crimsun, new to postfix - apache is the user who will be sending the mail
[07:44] <spiral> crimsun, or I think the user is www-data
[07:45] <guardianx3> jasmus when i type in the command u told me i get this error msg = E: Couldn't find package vlc
[07:45] <crimsun> spiral: you'll need to read the postfix docs. I'm not a MTA guru.
[07:45] <crimsun> an MTA, rather.
[07:46] <jasmuz> guardianx3: vlc - multimedia player for all audio and video formats
[07:47] <jasmuz> guardianx3: do you have your Universe enabled?
[07:47] <jason_> guardianx3, you need to enable the universe repository
[07:47] <spiral> ok
[07:47] <jason_> !tel guardianx3 about repositories
[07:47] <ubotu> jason_: I give up, what is it?
[07:47] <jason_> !tell guardianx3 about repositories
[07:50] <bjweeks> hey!
[07:51] <jasmuz> !ubotu repositories
[07:51] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:52] <starfishy> anyone know what happened to xbase-clients on breezy?
[07:52] <starfishy> it should contain xev but doesn't
[07:55] <Ropy> does anyone know how to handle a tgz.gz file?
[07:55] <Ropy> i.e. how to install it etc...
[07:55] <joolz> does anyone know a gtkatalog substitute for hoary? preferrably one that imports gtkatalog db's
[07:56] <joolz> ans will gtkatalog be back in breezy?
[07:56] <starfishy> tgz.gz?
[07:56] <joolz> and
[07:56] <starfishy> id try to gunzip it and then tar xzf
[07:56] <starfishy> but i suspect its just a misnomer for a .tar.gz or .tgz file
[07:56] <starfishy> gzipping a gzipped archive is kinda pointless
[07:57] <Ropy> why is that?>
[07:58] <starfishy> because the gain in compression is just about zero by compressing a compressed file
[07:58] <cafuego> the added meta info actually makes it larger :-)
[07:59] <Ropy> k... well I just want to install what's contained within the file
[07:59] <cafuego> Ropy: You're not adding home-compiled stuff to ubuntu, are you?
[07:59] <Ropy> no no
[08:00] <Ropy> dono how to compile just yet
[08:00] <Ropy> why u ask?
[08:00] <cafuego> Ropy: It's been a common theme this weekend.
[08:00] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?
[08:00] <guardianx3> how do i install vlc into my new ubuntu
[08:00] <cafuego> Ropy: You unpack the tarball using 'tar xfz foo.tar.gz'
[08:01] <jasmuz> !ubotu repositories
[08:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <guardianx3> when i type sudo apt-get install vlc .. i get this error msg ( E: Couldn't find package vlc
[08:01] <guardianx3>  )
[08:01] <Madpilot> guardianx3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <guardianx3> i read it but i dont get it
[08:01] <guardianx3> what do i do?
[08:02] <djcheezecake> wow...theres alot of repository issues tonite...
[08:02] <Madpilot> guardianx3: two of Ubuntu's repositories need to be enabled - Universe & Multiverse
[08:02] <Syco54645> i love url filter for ipcop
[08:02] <Syco54645> it rocks so much
[08:02] <Syco54645> i just updated the black list
[08:02] <Madpilot> guardianx3: the repos are where apt-get & Synaptic get the programs from
[08:03] <Madpilot> djcheezecake: lots of repos issues all the time, really...
[08:03] <djcheezecake> i can see that..
[08:04] <djcheezecake> sorry...was watchin tv at the same time...meant...i can believe that..
[08:05] <Chickenman> again
[08:05] <Madpilot> djcheezecake: you might be interested in this: http://www.ubuntu.cc.com.au/pop.php
[08:05] <ram_einstein> could someone suggest an automatic mass-jpeg resizer
[08:06] <Madpilot> it's a list of all ubotu's entries, sorted by usage...
[08:06] <ram_einstein> I want to resize some jpegs all of the same size to the same standard size, doing it one-by-one seems tedious
[08:06] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: that's what 'convert' is for. it's an imagemagick program
[08:07] <guardianx3> after i click the i check the * show disable software sorces*   in the repos and then enter the command  sudo apt-get install vlc .. i get this error msg ( E: Couldn't find package vlc
[08:07] <djcheezecake> Madpilot: what is ubotu btw...is that a bot..?
[08:07] <ram_einstein> hyphenated, imagemagik?
[08:07] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubotu was uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[08:07] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: I use it for resizing digital camera photos with a script like: for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 25% ${i} small/${i}; done
[08:08] <Madpilot> guardianx3: see that URL I posted, it's got step-by-step instructions
[08:08] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?
[08:08] <djcheezecake> !ubotu
[08:08] <ubotu> I heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[08:08] <ram_einstein> hyphenated, convert doesn't seem to be installed
[08:08] <djcheezecake> interesting!
[08:08] <Madpilot> djcheezecake: ... and useful! ;)
[08:08] <spiral> !ubotu add
[08:08] <ubotu> I guess add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[08:09] <hyphenated> dpkg -S $(which convert) => imagemagick: /usr/bin/convert
[08:09] <guardianx3> madpilot - i followed the instruction and check the box . and so on. but it when i enter the get ap command for vlc it still say the same error
[08:09] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: apt-get install imagemagick
[08:09] <spiral> !ubotu postfix
[08:09] <ubotu> spiral: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:09] <ram_einstein> one sec hyphenated
[08:09] <djcheezecake> so no references on ubuntuguide eh..? =P
[08:09] <Madpilot> guardianx3: if you're already in Synaptic, use that, not apt-get
[08:09] <Madpilot> guardianx3: you can't have Synaptic & apt-get running at the same time, they conflict
[08:10] <guardianx3> so what do i type? i'm sorry i'm 2 hrs old in linux and ubuntu
[08:10] <Gatton> !ubotu why does totem suck so much? ;)
[08:10] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Gatton
[08:10] <zaguar> i think
[08:10] <Madpilot> guardianx3: don't type anything. Use Synaptic and just search for vlc
[08:10] <zaguar> that it;s its lack of features
[08:10] <zaguar> or use apt-get install gvlc
[08:10] <zaguar> gvlc cause you use gnome
[08:11] <Madpilot> zaguar: he's already got Syn running, might as well use that
[08:11] <cafuego> !ping
[08:11] <zaguar> Madpilot: kk - didn't see
[08:11] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, cafuego.
[08:11] <ram_einstein> thanks hyphenated, downloading imagemagick now
[08:11] <zaguar> Madpilot: But he should get gvlc
[08:11] <cafuego> that's better
[08:11] <zaguar> Madpilot: not vlc cause it dosn't have gnome support IIRC
[08:12] <Madpilot> zaguar: probably - I was just trying to sort his Synaptic issues out. I just use Totem for vid, it's a great app! ;)
[08:12] <guardianx3> madpilot - i did a search for vlc and nothing show up
[08:12] <guardianx3> in the synaptic
[08:12] <Gatton> try wxvlc
[08:12] <zaguar> Repositories?
[08:12] <Madpilot> guardianx3: it's in there. you need to get your repositories sorted out.
[08:12] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[08:12] <zaguar> Do nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[08:12] <crimsun> zaguar: it does have gnome support. I compiled it with such.
[08:13] <cafuego> !info libdvdcss2
[08:13] <Madpilot> zaguar: he's already running Syn, all the repo stuff can be done there...
[08:13] <zaguar> True
[08:13] <ram_einstein> hyphenated, instead of 25%, can I give a standard size in pixels?
[08:13] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[08:13] <zaguar> Madpilot: I'll shut up :(
[08:13] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[08:13] <Gatton> but old habits die hard. just used to editing sources.list
[08:13] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: you can do whatever the man page tells you is possible
[08:14] <guardianx3> honestly i jus dont see it ! do i have to download some package???
[08:14] <cafuego> !find libdvdcss2
[08:14] <Madpilot> zaguar: if you can advise about movie players, please do, but you're just confusing the issue WRT repos...
[08:14] <Madpilot> guardianx3: hit the Reload button in Synaptic - that updates all your repo lists
[08:14] <zaguar> Madpilot: Sorry mate
[08:15] <cafuego> liar
[08:15] <guardianx3> when i hit the reload only 22 file get update
[08:15] <guardianx3> and there is no vlc to be found
[08:15] <jasmuz> guardianx3: im going to give you a step by step guide, ok
[08:16] <ram_einstein> thanks hyphenated
[08:16] <Gatton> Madpilot, why not have him paste his sources.list somewhere so we can look at it?
[08:16] <guardianx3> jasmuz- ok
[08:17] <Madpilot> Gatton: was trying to do the CLI-free way, but evidently that isn't working! ;) want to walk guardianx3 thru that, please?
[08:18] <Gatton> Madpilot, well I agree CLI is a good last resort. I assume he added repositories through Synaptic? If so just wondered if something got screwed up in the formatting or something. Although it shouldn't
[08:19] <jasmuz> Gatton: im taking care of it
[08:19] <Madpilot> Gatton: apparently he followed the wiki repos page, which is entirely based on Synaptic, so I'm not sure what's going wrong.
[08:19] <Gatton> jasmuz, ok cool
[08:19] <Madpilot> jasmuz: thanks
[08:20] <guardianx3> k
[08:20] <Gatton> Madpilot, oh ok. Yea because I get 23 packages when I search on vlc
[08:20] <asd> how can i restore the mbr?
[08:21] <zaguar> asd: what happened?
[08:21] <asd> cloned a disk...
[08:21] <starfishy> are you going to install a boot manager?
[08:21] <asd> yes
[08:21] <starfishy> if so, just install it and it will fix the problem
[08:22] <asd> how?
[08:22] <guardianx3> gatton - oh i get only 22 package when i hit the reload button
[08:22] <starfishy> if you are installing lilo, edit lilo.conf, then run lilo
[08:22] <guardianx3> maybe that is why i dont see the vlc package
[08:22] <Gatton> guardianx3, and you get 0 when you search on vlc?
[08:22] <starfishy> if you install grub, run grub-install
[08:23] <asd> but i cant boot from the hd
[08:23] <ram_einstein> what is the trash folder? how do I access it from console?
[08:23] <guardianx3> gatton- yes i get o when i search for vlc
[08:23] <Madpilot> Gatton: same here, and I just had a look at the wiki page, and it works
[08:23] <asd> the mbr is broken
[08:23] <guardianx3> do i have to reboot for the repos to take into effect?
[08:24] <Gatton> nope
[08:24] <Gatton> just reload should do the trick
[08:24] <ram_einstein> what is the trash folder? how do I access it from console?
[08:24] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?
[08:24] <fr500> hello
[08:24] <holycow> sudo apt-get update after you add repos
[08:24] <starfishy> boot from the CD and mount the hard disk partition as root
[08:24] <Madpilot> guardianx3: only one thing in Linux requires a reboot, and adjusting repos isn't it!
[08:24] <Gatton> hehe
[08:24] <fr500> do you know where to find a working tutorial for active directory integration in ubuntu?
[08:25] <PPC_Guy> could the age of a dvd drive effect detection?
[08:25] <holycow> fr500, samba.org
[08:26] <starfishy> not really, all dvd drives are either ATAPI or SCSI
[08:26] <starfishy> if it is in working condition and the driver is available it should be detected fine
[08:27] <zaguar> rameinstein: its /home/$user/.Trash
[08:28] <sasyi_girls> hai
[08:28] <zaguar> rameinstein: so go cd ~/.Trash
[08:28] <fr500> thx holycow
[08:28] <n8lewis> is there a way to run flash in ubuntu?
[08:28] <Gatton> !ubotu flash
[08:28] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:29] <PPC_Guy> I get the error " there is no plugin to play this movie"
[08:29] <n8lewis> no I mean the flash editor
[08:29] <n8lewis> like flash MX
[08:29] <guardianx3> ok i got it working....... it was my fault i didnt read the end ...
[08:29] <zaguar> PPC_Guy: What's the movie type?
[08:29] <PPC_Guy> King of the Hill DVD
[08:29] <guardianx3> i didnt check the universal thing
[08:29] <Gatton> n8lewis, not sure. you could try running it under Wine maybe
[08:29] <PPC_Guy> nothing special or fancy
[08:29] <guardianx3> after i install vlc where is the program locate? how do i run it in gnome?
[08:30] <zaguar> you got decss?
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> talking to me zaguar?
[08:30] <zaguar> yeah
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> nope..
[08:30] <Gatton> guardianx3, mine is in Applications, Sound & Video
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> root@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install decss
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> Reading package lists... Done
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> E: Couldn't find package decss
[08:31] <HrdwrBoB> libdvdcss2
[08:31] <Madpilot> PPC_Guy: I think you want libdvdcss2?
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> root@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install libdvdcss2
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> Reading package lists... Done
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> is only available from another source
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> soorry guys didn't mean to offend anyone
[08:32] <Gatton> hehe
[08:33] <Madpilot> PPC_Guy: it does exist. check your sources list/repos
[08:33] <PPC_Guy> will do
[08:33] <Madpilot> Gatton: whee, another repos question... ;)
[08:33] <Gatton> i think i might have got all that stuff the nerim repos
[08:33] <Gatton> Madpilot, that does seem to be the trend this evening :)
[08:33] <zaguar> It's in marillat repos IIRC
[08:33] <Madpilot> Gatton: it's in one of the regular Ubuntu repos - just a sec
[08:33] <epicenter> I have a package that says it needs GTK+ 2.0, what package is this? libgtk-2.0-0 doesn't seem to do it....
[08:33] <epicenter> and I can't find anything called gtk+.
[08:34] <Madpilot> it's in backports/extras
[08:34] <crimsun> libgtk2.0-dev
[08:34] <zaguar> epiccenter: if it clearlooks?
[08:34] <zaguar> cause you need the dev package
[08:34] <zaguar> for that
[08:34] <linfreak> howdy
[08:34] <Gatton> evening
[08:35] <PPC_Guy> indeed
[08:35] <epicenter> ahh
[08:35] <linfreak> i think i've reached a new low
[08:35] <highvoltage> hello
[08:35] <linfreak> ello
[08:35] <linfreak> i just bought an orkut invite off of ebay
[08:36] <guardianx3> gatton- yay it is working
[08:36] <zaguar> PPC_Guy:  Install the Automated script at the UbuntuForums
[08:36] <crimsun> ubuntu-offtopic, please, linfreak.
[08:36] <Gatton> guardianx3, glad to hear it :)
[08:36] <guardianx3> horray
[08:36] <guardianx3> 1st time installing something in linux
[08:36] <zaguar> PPC_Guy:  wget http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup/ubuntusetup.sh
[08:36] <Gatton> guardianx3, i promise things usually go smoother ;)
[08:36] <Madpilot> guardianx3: it gets easier from now on!
[08:36] <Gatton> although there are always speed bumps
[08:36] <zaguar> PPC_Guy:  then sudo sh ubuntusetup.sh
[08:36] <Gatton> the hardest part is getting everything working the first time. from then on it's pretty smooth sailing
[08:37] <Gatton> until you decide to buy a wireless card or something ;)
[08:37] <Gatton> Or try to get your Minolta printer to work :(
[08:37] <Madpilot> Gatton: ah, wireless! if the gods had intended for linux users to use wireless, they wouldn't have invented Cat5 cable! ;)
[08:38] <guardianx3> my next question is....... i have a ti 200 nvdia card with tv out... how do i switch it to tv??
[08:38] <Gatton> Madpilot, agreed. I am staying wired for the forseeable future
[08:38] <guardianx3> on my winxp box i set it so when ever i press alt+1 it would switch to the tv.. and then switch back to monitor
[08:38] <barkley> Totem could not startup: resource is not available: what's that deal again?
[08:39] <Madpilot> guardianx3: do you have video drivers installed yet?
[08:39] <Linux_Man> If there is any other repositories lost soul out there, query me....so i can give you the same step by step guide
[08:39] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[08:39] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:40] <Gatton> But if that's a special functionality of the Windows driver hmmmm
[08:40] <barkley> do i need to change totem to oss or esd or what?
[08:40] <Gatton> guardianx3, did you have to assign that hot key? or that was the default?
[08:40] <barkley> with that resource busy problem
[08:41] <logical_mark> Hey guys I am following instructions I foind online to mount an NFS partiotion and they are having me modify the /etc/fstab file, but it keep opening as read only. How do I open it under root?
[08:41] <LlukaX> hi does anyone know how to get a usb wireless connection to work in ubuntu?
[08:41] <Madpilot> logical_mark: add "sudo" to the front of whatever command line you're using
[08:41] <barkley> so what's up with totem?
[08:42] <hyphenated> logical_mark: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig; sudo youreditor /etc/fstab
[08:42] <Gatton> logical_mark, what he said. and remember to use your password
[08:42] <barkley> the device resource busy business
[08:43] <LlukaX> also it freezes at bootup " loading hotplug subsystem",i have to control c out
[08:43] <znh> Hmmm, when Iam trying to play Enemy-Territory, it gives a input/output error while trying to nmap /dev/dsp - with XMMS it works fine
[08:44] <glick> is enemy territory a game for linux?
[08:44] <znh> yes, it's native
[08:45] <Tomcat_> glick: It's cross platform
[08:45] <glick> Tomcat_, a free game?
[08:45] <Tomcat_> glick: Yes, free.
[08:45] <glick> hmm ima check it out
[08:45] <glick> there a website?
[08:45] <Madpilot> glick: there's something in the Ubuntu wiki about it
[08:45] <znh> glick: learn how to google !
[08:45] <jasmuz> im out
[08:45] <jasmuz> take care guys
[08:46] <znh> so doesn't anyone know
[08:46] <logical_mark> GOD I AM LOVING THIS LINUX SHIT!
[08:46] <barkley> Totem could not startup: resource is not available: what's that deal again?
[08:46] <glick> wow
[08:46] <glick> how can that be open source?
[08:46] <logical_mark> I just got into linux and ubuntu was a huge help with getting past all the hardware troubles
[08:46] <znh> glick: It is not
[08:46] <n8lewis> Yeah linux rox
[08:46] <Madpilot> glick: not sure it's open, but the US Army is giving it away...
[08:46] <starfishy> hehehe
[08:46] <Tomcat_> ET is not OS?
[08:46] <parabolize> logical_mark, cool
[08:47] <starfishy> my first linux was kernel 0.98pl5
[08:47] <glick> it says this on the site
[08:47] <glick> Get Started and Download For Free (Open Source)
[08:47] <znh> Tomcat_: there are binary's for linux, it isn't opensource - woulden't be safe anyway
[08:47] <starfishy> downloaded 10 floppy disks :)
[08:47] <LlukaX> anyone have a similar problem with hotplug?
[08:47] <glick> haha you have to register to play the game?
[08:47] <Tomcat_> znh: Well there are ways to stop cheaters and be open source... but it's harder. :P
[08:47] <Madpilot> glick: isn't ET online only
[08:47] <Madpilot> ?
[08:48] <znh> Madpilot: no, you can also play it on LAN :P
[08:48] <freddy> yay!
[08:48] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: Playing it alone is possible but pointless. :)
[08:48] <glick> haha i bet the game secretly sends your scores to the army and those with the best scores get put on the first draft list
[08:48] <Madpilot> OK, multi-player only, then...
[08:48] <glick> im very weary of anything the army gives away for free
[08:48] <Tomcat_> What does ET have to do with the army? :o
[08:48] <barkley> so where's the totem page in ubuntuguide?
[08:48] <parabolize> LlukaX, whats the nic?
[08:48] <Madpilot> glick: that's America's Army, not ET - I was mistaken
[08:48] <glick> ah
[08:48] <glick> who makes ET
[08:48] <LlukaX> no card
[08:48] <LlukaX> its a usb
[08:49] <parabolize> ya
[08:49] <Tomcat_> ET is a game of id Software/Activision/Splashdamage, it doesn't have anything to do with the army.
[08:49] <LlukaX> D-Link G-120
[08:49] <LlukaX> ack
[08:49] <glick> and id made it open source?
[08:49] <LlukaX> DWL-G120
[08:49] <barkley> q3 is not open source yet
[08:49] <parabolize> looking up now
[08:50] <barkley> but somehow the GPL zealots don't bust Id or Epic
[08:50] <barkley> typical groupthink
[08:50] <guardianx3> after i install the nvidia  driver in ubunto how do i switch it to the tv?
[08:50] <Madpilot> barkley: Id will open-source q3 when they release q4, I assume. q2 *is* open now
[08:50] <stjepan> heya
[08:51] <stjepan> I installed ubuntu
[08:51] <stjepan> where is grub config file?
[08:51] <fr500> /boot/grub?
[08:51] <barkley> Madpilot, q3 gets opened up when the last licensor gets to a certain point of development
[08:51] <guardianx3> how do i switch from monitor view to tv-out ?
[08:51] <glick> the game looks freakin amazing
[08:51] <parabolize> LlukaX, well its not on the list at http://linux_wless.passys.nl but im still looking
[08:51] <fr500> what game?
[08:51] <glick> ET
[08:51] <barkley> Madpilot, how come the rabid gpl zealots don't demand that id or epic open up their engines from the beginning?
[08:51] <fr500> ET?
[08:51] <barkley> what is ET?
[08:52] <glick> Enemy Territory
[08:52] <fr500> the one based on wolf?
[08:52] <fr500> ok
[08:52] <barkley> it's not an open engine
[08:52] <glick> its open source right?
[08:52] <linfreak> how do i enable permissions to write and modify on a selected folder?
[08:52] <barkley> it's on q3
[08:52] <Madpilot> barkley: because they've got better things to do?
[08:52] <barkley> no
[08:52] <barkley> ET is based off of q3 which is not open source
[08:52] <starfishy> linfreak: chmod
[08:52] <stjepan> fr500: /boot/grub is a directory
[08:52] <glick> barkley, but on the webstire look what it says where you download
[08:52] <glick> it says Get Started and Download For Free (Open Source)
[08:52] <fr500> stjepan, inside there, menu.lst i think
[08:52] <starfishy> stjepan: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:53] <fr500> glick,, free and open source are diferent
[08:53] <Madpilot> cool game based on q2: http://www.ufoai.net/  <-- it runs in Ubuntu, too
[08:53] <barkley> wait a minute. what engine is enemy terrirotry based on?
[08:53] <glick> fr500, no it says "(open source)"
[08:53] <fr500> q3 i think, wolf 3d return to the castle
[08:53] <fr500> glick, ok
[08:53] <barkley> fr500, yes
[08:53] <barkley> and q3 is not open source yet
[08:53] <fr500> i know
[08:54] <barkley> so anybody know the answer to the classic totem problem of resource device busy or whatever
[08:54] <guardianx3> how do i make vlc  be the default movie player instead of the totem  ???
[08:55] <barkley> god knows i should just stick to ubuntu and stop dicking around with these other distros
[08:55] <guardianx3> agree with barkley
[08:55] <stjepan> fr500, starfishy: tnx
[08:55] <fr500> guardianx3, for each file type select open with or something, there is a way to select
[08:55] <ram_einstein> how do I rename *.JPG to *.jpg?
[08:55] <ram_einstein> rename *.JPG *.jpg doesn't work
[08:55] <barkley> where is the wiki page for totem?
[08:55] <highvoltage> ram_einstein: mv
[08:56] <barkley> we've all had this problem
[08:56] <barkley> or a lot of this
[08:56] <parabolize> LlukaX, looks like you need to use ndiswraper. link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:56] <ram_einstein> ah thanks highvoltage
[08:56] <barkley> godamn linux and the sound problems forever and forever
[08:56] <LlukaX> ok
[08:56] <ram_einstein> uh, highvoltage, how do I use it?
[08:56] <guardianx3> fr500 when i try that  i get an error msg saying coult not add application
[08:56] <ram_einstein> mv *.JPG *.jpg doesn't work
[08:57] <jtgameover> ram_einstein,
[08:57] <stjepan> I use ndiswrapper
[08:57] <crimsun> barkley: are you using esd?
[08:57] <stjepan> it is great
[08:57] <jtgameover> you have to write a script
[08:57] <jtgameover> or
[08:57] <Madpilot> barkley: apparently Breezy is going to have way better sound mngt
[08:57] <stjepan> ok
[08:57] <jtgameover> do a one liner
[08:57] <stjepan> tnx guys
[08:57] <stjepan> see you
[08:57] <barkley> crimsun, i think that's the fscking problem. and i'm pissed
[08:57] <fr500> guardianx3, works for me, are u sure u typed the command the way it is?
[08:57] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, a one liner then
[08:57] <jtgameover> for filename in *.JPG; do mv $filename.JPG $filename.jpg
[08:57] <barkley> Madpilot, i'm in breezy. i should write this shit down when i change distros
[08:57] <crimsun> barkley: calm down and ask the question intelligently. I can't read your mind.
[08:57] <barkley> crimsum: i think it's the esd problem
[08:57] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, that may be wrong actually
[08:58] <barkley> resource buys or not available
[08:58] <ram_einstein> um, it comes up with a prompt jtgameover
[08:58] <guardianx3> fr500  what do u type ? i did it via gnome........ right click the file properties and so on
[08:58] <fr500> guardianx3, did you select open with?
[08:58] <linfreak> i can't figure out what to type after chmod in the terminal to enable the writes to write and modify
[08:58] <crimsun> barkley: then you need to confirm it's the esd problem first. What is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink configured as?
[08:58] <barkley> linux still has to get over this also transition hurdle
[08:58] <LlukaX> ok
[08:58] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, gimme a sec
[08:58] <barkley> crimsun, let me check. thanks for the help brother
[08:58] <glick> damn i registered for it and its taking forever to get my damn confirmation email
[08:58] <glick> wtf
[08:58] <fr500> linfreak, chmod xxx filename
[08:58] <ram_einstein> I modified it to for filename in *.JPG; do mv $filename.JPG $filename.jpg; done
[08:58] <ram_einstein>  but it still doesn't work jtgameover
[08:59] <linfreak> what if it's a directory?
[08:59] <fr500> xxx=permissions for user, group, other i think
[08:59] <fr500> x's are octal numbres
[08:59] <ram_einstein> linfreak, chmod -R dirname
[08:59] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, yeah you gotta use basename
[08:59] <jtgameover> i am trying it out myself first
[08:59] <jtgameover> so i can tell you the right thing
[08:59] <guardianx3> fr500- i right click on the avi file and slelect " open with other app"
[08:59] <ram_einstein> okay jtgameover
[08:59] <barkley> crimsun, ok, we're making progress brother.  multi-media selector just locked up on me on the source input
[08:59] <fr500> ok
[08:59] <fr500> then there select other i think, i'm on windows now
[09:00] <guardianx3> then a list of app appear and i scroll down to vlc . and click add. then i get "couldnt add app "
[09:00] <fr500> and there you type the command for the app you want
[09:00] <fr500> guardianx3, oh, no clue then
[09:00] <crimsun> barkley: Default Source is irrelevant. Default Sink is what we're concerned with.
[09:00] <barkley> crimsun, ok, default source isn't giving me sounds
[09:00] <fr500> well gotta hit the track with the vette tomorrow, so i'm out
[09:00] <ram_einstein> linfreak, chmod *** -R dirname
[09:00] <barkley> crimsum: the alsa sink did give me sound
[09:00] <guardianx3> how do i use the tv-out option in my nvidia card with ubuntu ??
[09:00] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user (www-data@myhost.com) using a different username noreply@myhost.com using postfix?
[09:01] <holycow> http://devsec.sourceforge.net/  <-- neato
[09:01] <crimsun> barkley: Do other gstreamer applications, such as Rhythmbox (Music Player), work?
[09:01] <ram_einstein> jtgameover?
[09:01] <Poromies> hi all, anyone know any good 64bit games? just got my 3d-accel working :)
[09:01] <fr500> linfreak, you combine this values for the *s, 4 2 or 1, 4 for read access, 2 for write and 1 for access i think, so for everyones access you type chmod -R 777 dir
[09:01] <barkley> crimsun, default sink of also is giving me sound
[09:01] <glick> can i install ET so its a local user install and not a root install?
[09:01] <jtgameover> hmm yeah
[09:01] <barkley> alsa
[09:01] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, are you familiar with a shell script
[09:02] <fr500> i don't advise 777 tho
[09:02] <jtgameover> i am not good with these one-liners to do directly into a terminal
[09:02] <fr500> jtgameover, what u wanna do?
[09:02] <linfreak> fr500; and this will allow my non sudo user to write?
[09:02] <jtgameover> fr500, he wants to rename all .JPG to .jpg
[09:03] <fr500> hmm, you want an script to rename, say all the files in one dir?
[09:03] <barkley> crimsun, geez dude, how do i just play a .mp3. i've got multiverse and i think i imported the gstreamer plugin. rhythmbox is so freaking weird. i just want to play a damn .mp3
[09:03] <barkley> crimsun, i don't want to "import"
[09:03] <fr500> linfreak, 777 yes
[09:03] <barkley> linux has such a ways to go in sound
[09:03] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, I'll try
[09:03] <barkley> i've been programming on linux for 8 years professionaly, and sound is still a mess
[09:04] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, try what?
[09:04] <jtgameover> are you familiar with shell scripts?
[09:04] <fr500> i have sone scripts to load files with static routes execute command, do you want it, same principle should apply, just change the actual commands
[09:04] <ram_einstein> no jtgameover
[09:04] <crimsun> barkley: have you used gst-launch-0.8 to test the alsasink with an mp3?
[09:04] <guardianx3> which one do i download to install into my system so i can use the tv-out http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/
[09:05] <fr500> ie: instead of ip route add you would put rename
[09:05] <linfreak> thanks
[09:05] <fr500> linfreak, you need to use sudo previous to chmod
[09:05] <fr500> bye everyone
[09:05] <cafuego_> barkley: It not Linux; there are other distros that happily include mp3 and dvd libs by default.
[09:05] <ram_einstein> damn jtgameover, I messed up my filenames bigtime experimenting
[09:06] <glick> i dont get it when i click on download, it opens up the file in the browser, when i right click on et-linux-2.60 and choose save as, it tries to save the php re-direct file
[09:06] <glick> wtf how the hell do you download it
[09:06] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, what'd you do
[09:06] <Xyc0> barkley: it is easy enough to install the pluins
[09:06] <jtgameover> i can't help you undo it....
[09:06] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, it's okay
[09:06] <ram_einstein> you tried to help atleast
[09:06] <cafuego_> glick: it probably tries to save et-2.60 as a file CALLED redirect.php
[09:06] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, one sec
[09:07] <barkley> crimsun, let me check that out in synaptic. thanks for your help brother
[09:07] <glick> cafuego, modules.php
[09:07] <jtgameover>  for filename in *.png; do name=`basename $filename .png`; mv $filename $name.PNG; done
[09:07] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, it's something along those lines
[09:07] <f_newton> ram_einstein, if you need to reinstall
[09:07] <f_newton> and try to read before acting
[09:07] <barkley> ERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: empty pipeline not allowed.
[09:08] <cafuego_> for file in *.png; do mv $file $(basename $file .png).PNG; done
[09:08] <f_newton> save all them weird named jpgs to a cdrom
[09:08] <crimsun> barkley: what syntax are you using?
[09:08] <f_newton> wipe n reinstall
[09:08] <glick> cafuego, have you played the game?
[09:08] <ram_einstein> okay jtgameover thanks
[09:08] <barkley> crimsun, nothing passed to the commandline
[09:08] <Xyc0> What is the dev channel for ubuntu?
[09:08] <ram_einstein> what f_newton ?
[09:09] <crimsun> Xyc0: -devel
[09:09] <barkley> Xyc0, i installed all the plugins. that's not the problems
[09:09] <crimsun> barkley: you need to use the correct parameters
[09:09] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, cafuego just gave you the answer
[09:09] <f_newton> ram_einstein, if you screwed up your filenames reinstall
[09:09] <barkley> crimsun, k
[09:09] <jtgameover> i was forgetting to do $( )
[09:09] <Xyc0> crimsun: thnx
[09:09] <f_newton> its probably easier
[09:09] <crimsun> barkley: for instance, I'm testing successfully with: gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=/mnt/Documents\ and\ Settings/Administrator/My\ Documents/My\ Music/Lynne\ Arriale/Live\ At\ Montreux/01\ -\ Alone\ Together.flac ! spider ! alsasink
[09:09] <f_newton> but back up all those jpgs first
[09:10] <ram_einstein> done f_newton
[09:10] <barkley> crimsum: so i can just pass a directory with mp3s to it?
[09:10] <f_newton> try to read a little about the os you use too
[09:10] <f_newton> it does come in handy
[09:10] <jtgameover> cafuego, actually that doesn't work
[09:10] <crimsun> barkley: pass a specific mp3 to it.
[09:10] <barkley> k
[09:10] <jtgameover> it still complains about the basename
[09:10] <ram_einstein> how do you rip just the filename from it's full name with extension?
[09:10] <jtgameover> and too many arguments
[09:10] <f_newton> I dont
[09:10] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, the problem is to rip just the name of the file
[09:10] <f_newton> all that is way too much work
[09:10] <jtgameover> which doesn't make sense because when you do a simple "basename file.png .png" it works fine
[09:10] <barkley> ** (process:24226): WARNING **: error: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting LINK
[09:10] <barkley> ERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: Unrecoverable syntax error while parsing pipeline lugradio-s02e22-010805-low.ogg
[09:11] <glick> can my shit handle ET?
[09:11] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, yeah, this would work in a shell script
[09:11] <f_newton> I actually use my os as a work os
[09:11] <f_newton> lol
[09:11] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, you just don't wnat to do any "mv" until you're sure
[09:11] <jtgameover> that you have things right
[09:11] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, fine, shell script thet
[09:11] <crimsun> barkley: what precise syntax are you using?
[09:11] <barkley> crimsun, hold on
[09:11] <crimsun> brb, restarting X Window System
[09:12] <barkley> chris@lilbuntu:~$ gst-launch filesrc location=/home/chris/lugradio-s02e22-010805-low.ogg
[09:12] <barkley> RUNNING pipeline ...
[09:12] <barkley> Execution ended after 1 iterations (sum 24000 ns, average 24000 ns, min 24000 ns, max 24000 ns).
[09:12] <barkley> chris@lilbuntu:~$
[09:13] <guardianx3> is there a way to enable the tv-out option on my nvida card so i cn watch movies on the tv???
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !java
[09:13] <ubotu> well, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:13] <Xyc0> guardianx3: nvtv is a nice program for that
[09:14] <Xyc0> guardianx3: look for it in synaptic to see if you can install it from there
[09:14] <logical_mark> hey guys quick question from a newb - How do I login to ubuntu as the root user. I have tried at the login screen typing root and then the password but it tells me the username or password is wrong which I knwo it is not
[09:14] <Xyc0> logical_mark: you need to change the roots password
[09:15] <Xyc0> logical_mark: it is randomly generated at install
[09:15] <logical_mark> Xyc thanks. How do I do that?
[09:15] <Xyc0> System > Admin > Users
[09:15] <crimsun> barkley: read the syntax I used carefully.
[09:16] <Xyc0> logical_mark: you have to "show all users and groups"
[09:16] <barkley> crimsun, got rhythmbox to work
[09:16] <logical_mark> found it thanks
[09:16] <guardianx3> xyc0 after i install the nvtv how do i access it??
[09:16] <logical_mark> later
[09:16] <crimsun> barkley: now test with Totem
[09:16] <spiral> has anyone installed postfix on ubuntu?
[09:17] <Burgundavia> spiral, already installed by default
[09:17] <Xyc0> guardianx3: pretty sure it is nvtv in terminal
[09:17] <Burgundavia> Xyc0, actually, root is locked, no password at all
[09:17] <barkley> crimsun, nahh. totem dies as usual
[09:17] <spiral> Burgundavia, it does not seem to be working for me with php
[09:17] <barkley> crimsun, but thanks for your help
[09:18] <barkley> crimsun
[09:18] <Xyc0> Burgundavia: you sure?  I could have sworn it was random numbers
[09:18] <Burgundavia> spiral, it is locked to only listen to the localhost and only deliver to the admin email
[09:19] <spiral> Burgundavia, I want php/apache to use it to send email...what direction should I take?
[09:20] <Burgundavia> spiral, there are some nice postfix docs on the web. Let me see if I can dig one up for you
[09:20] <glick> anyone here play ET?
[09:20] <spiral> Burgundavia thanks, that would be great
[09:20] <Burgundavia> spiral, http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
[09:20] <cafuego_> Xyc0: it is not randomly generated, it is set to "disable login".
[09:21] <cafuego_> spiral: You cnn just use mail() as documented in php after you install and set up postfix.
[09:21] <Xyc0> cafuego_: I know that you have to allow login through gdm, but I am talking about the password itself.
[09:21] <holycow> heh, heres a fun command for all of you that have nvidia / ati drivers properly installed with 3d acceleration: sudo apt-get install scorched3d
[09:21] <cafuego_> Xyc0: yes, the password field is set to "x", which means "no logins allowed".
[09:22] <holycow> -_-
[09:22] <ilba7r> when i run evolution edit>prefrences the window is outside the visible area in my desktop is that normal?
[09:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmm somethings not right here >.<
[09:22] <Madpilot> holycow: already did that, it's a great app!
[09:23] <cafuego_> holycow: broken on breezy :-)
[09:23] <spiral> cafuego, I have installed it, but it is not working... and I am using tha mail() function in phyp
[09:23] <holycow> not here :)
[09:23] <holycow> oh breezy, haaha!
[09:23] <holycow> indeedy :)
[09:23] <cafuego_> spiral: Does /usr/lib/sendmail exist?
[09:23] <Burgundavia> holycow, it is very sad. I cannot blow my brother up (he is still sanely running hoary)
[09:24] <f_newton> ilba7r, yes it is.... maximize it and it will fit in your window
[09:24] <cafuego_> and nvidia seems to be not workign as of 2.6.13 :-)
[09:24] <holycow> hehe :) just found it, we need a gamers page on the ubuntu website
[09:24] <Xyc0> big game
[09:24] <f_newton> hey I play freecell
[09:24] <Burgundavia> holycow, feel free to start one
[09:24] <Amaranth> cafuego: Why must you run custom kernels? It makes me sad. :(
[09:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm i followed the java howto and how to add universe repos from that page i clicked reload and searched for "sun-j2re1.5 " but nothing shows what did i do wrong?
[09:24] <cafuego_> !find libwxgtk2.4
[09:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libwxgtk2.4' (6 shown): libwxgtk2.4 ;; libwxgtk2.4-contrib ;; libwxgtk2.4-contrib-dev ;; libwxgtk2.4-dbg ;; libwxgtk2.4-dev ;; libwxgtk2.4-python.
[09:24] <ilba7r> f_newton is there any way we can fix that
[09:25] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you need hoary-extras
[09:25] <holycow> Burgundavia, *smack* i forget its a wiki, righto
[09:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ohhhhh
[09:25] <Madpilot> holycow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryGames
[09:25] <f_newton> Amaranth, Thats a shame because that is one of the best ways to learn
[09:25] <f_newton> and learning is just as important as accepting
[09:25] <Amaranth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Someone fscked up the Java wiki page so now the only way to get Java cleanly is to get it illegally.
[09:25] <Burgundavia> holycow, UbuntuGaming sounds good
[09:25] <spiral> cafuego - yes /usr/lib/sendmail exists, and so does /usr/sbin/sendmail
[09:25] <cafuego_> illegally?
[09:25] <holycow> ah there is a category, neat, thx Maddy
[09:25] <holycow> Madpilot, even
[09:26] <cafuego_> spiral: Is there anything logged in /var/log/mail.log after calling mail() ?
[09:26] <spiral> cafuego
[09:26] <Burgundavia> holycow, link to the category for a full listing
[09:26] <Amaranth> cafuego_: Yeah, there is a reason Ubuntu doesn't ship Sun Java
[09:26] <Madpilot> holycow: np ;)
[09:26] <Burgundavia> holycow, but a page is not a category and vice versa
[09:26] <Amaranth> cafuego_: It's illegal to do so.
[09:26] <f_newton> ilba7r, its been that way for many moons
[09:26] <holycow> Burgundavia, good point
[09:26] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Yes, but downloading and converting isn't illegal, is it?
[09:26] <Amaranth> no
[09:26] <Burgundavia> cafuego, you cannot redistribute it
[09:26] <Amaranth> but the wiki doesn't show you how to do that anymore
[09:26] <f_newton> try the sun site
[09:26] <spiral> cafuego - how do I have installed postfix, but do I need to compile something?
[09:27] <Burgundavia> cafuego, if you could, it would be in multiverse
[09:27] <ilba7r> f_newton lol i know i got rid of that problem by changing the font setting the problem i forgot how thanx for your help though
[09:27] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Not that hard to make the wiki say "install java-package and read the docs"
[09:27] <Amaranth> The wiki just shows you how to add hoary-extras to your sources.list, which is less than useless unless you don't care about these 'law' things.
[09:27] <f_newton> ilba7r, changing the font setting changed the window size?
[09:28] <Burgundavia> cafuego, the java page used to go into how to create your own java package
[09:28] <cafuego_> Ok, they removed it in favour of extras?
[09:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm ok i enabled all my repos except backports and still nothing >.<
[09:28] <Burgundavia> cafuego, but either a bug or my own stupidity killed it
[09:28] <Burgundavia> cafuego, the old page that is
[09:28] <ilba7r> f_newton instead of the default 96dpi i changed it to about 75dpi where every thing was smaller and better for my laptop
[09:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just dosen't show up in synaptic >.<
[09:28] <cafuego_> Burgundavia: Hmm, tasty back-ups ;-)
[09:28] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, see wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:28] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, see hoary-extras
[09:28] <glick> how is enemy territory?
[09:29] <Lhea> awesome :p
[09:29] <logical_mark> Hey guys. I just used Synaptic Package Manager to install Pure-FTP Server. I restarted gnome-panel but I still cant find the launcher for the program
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes and i enabled them as well
[09:29] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, it may not have it
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> useing the howto guide
[09:29] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, some programs don't
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i also get a whole bunch of errors as well
[09:29] <PenguinOfDoom> Is it possible to downgrade a Debian unstable libc to the Ubuntu package without uninstalling every single package on the system?
[09:29] <f_newton> kewl I just repaired a laptop key
[09:29] <logical_mark> Burg, how do I control it then?
[09:30] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, if it is a server, it is a probably a command-line thing
[09:30] <logical_mark> I am new to linux so for now is there a less advanced FTP server I could use a GUI w
[09:30] <logical_mark> ?
[09:30] <cafuego_> holycow: Ahaa! 32bit hoary chroot to teh rescue ;-)
[09:30] <Burgundavia> PenguinOfDoom, probably not
[09:30] <f_newton> let me see gftp is not a server
[09:31] <holycow> cafuego, you clever bastard you :)
[09:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> You Will Feel My Squrelly Rath >.<
[09:31] <f_newton> cant remember what the ftp server is in linux
[09:31] <ilba7r> vsftp is good server
[09:31] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, you need an ftp server or client?
[09:31] <ilba7r> also pftpd
[09:31] <f_newton> thats it
[09:31] <f_newton> !
[09:31] <ubotu> f_newton: No idea
[09:31] <cafuego_> holycow: Still need to boot back into old kernel so 'nvidia' actually works
[09:31] <Madpilot> f_newton: no, gFTP is a pile of <censored>...
[09:31] <logical_mark> server Burg
[09:31] <f_newton> duh forgot about the bot
[09:31] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, most servers on linux do not have guis for very good reasons
[09:31] <f_newton> well Madpilot there are about as many opinions about linux apps as there are apps
[09:32] <spiral> cafuego - how do I have installed postfix, but do I need to compile something?
[09:32] <logical_mark> Burg, in that case which one would you reccomend me?
[09:32] <cafuego_> mainly because linux servers don't have GUIs, unless they happen to run Fedora
[09:32] <Burgundavia> spiral, you have already got postfix installed, you just need to tweak the configuration
[09:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have all of my repos enabled and updated universe , multivers and restricted what gives?
[09:32] <ilba7r> logical_mark if it is for lan better use ssh its more secure
[09:32] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, no idea, I have never set up a ftp server
[09:32] <Xyc0> cafuego_: red hat enterprise you mean?
[09:32] <Madpilot> f_newton: true, but gFTP is the least usable GUI FTP client I've ever seen...
[09:32] <ilba7r> if you worry about security then vsftp
[09:32] <spiral> ok
[09:32] <f_newton> well I dont use any of them so... a lot I would know eh?
[09:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> work damnnit
[09:32] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, if you have enabled hoary-extras, do a search for name and description, java
[09:33] <cafuego_> spiral: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" and answer its questions ... if you need a relay server etc, put those in.
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:33] <f_newton> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you sound like my boss
[09:33] <cafuego_> Xyc0: Sorry, i just went blind when you said something...
[09:33] <spiral> Burgundavia - but I am trying to configure it...it is not working
[09:33] <Raskall> any suggestions of how I can type norwegian characters in breezy?
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[09:33] <f_newton> hoary extras has to be installed doesnt it?
[09:33] <Burgundavia> Raskall, wait until the keyboard fixes hit
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no relation to your boss i'm actually better looking and not mean ^_^
[09:33] <Burgundavia> f_newton, yes
[09:33] <Raskall> Burgundavia: what do you mean?
[09:33] <Xyc0> cafuego_: meaning you want me to repeat it or Red Hat makes you blind?
[09:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yea I'm not a moron either lol
[09:34] <cafuego_> AIYEE!!!!
[09:34] <cafuego_> Amaranth: make him stop!
[09:34] <Burgundavia> Raskall, currently non-english keyboards are totally borked
[09:34] <Amaranth> ?
[09:34] <Raskall> Burgundavia: ok.
[09:34] <logical_mark> ilba7r, my friends and I rip DVDs and then when we meet up every week we use FTP to transfer them to each other. They use a windows ftp client so I dont want them to have to run another program just for me
[09:34] <Xyc0> he he he
[09:34] <Raskall> Burgundavia: nice to know it's not my fault.
[09:34] <ronybeck> Hi all
[09:34] <Xyc0> Fedora is a type of Hat
[09:34] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, why not just use sharing?
[09:34] <Burgundavia> Raskall, yes
[09:34] <Xyc0> Fedoras can be red too
[09:35] <cafuego_> Amaranth: </jk>
[09:35] <ronybeck> Has any one here got Ubuntu installed on a laptop with the Intel 915 chipset?
[09:35] <Amaranth> cafuego_: I'm not.
[09:35] <ilba7r> logical_mark they can install filezilla it support ssh and has a really good GUI
[09:35] <ronybeck> I can't get the isntaller to work
[09:35] <logical_mark> burgundavia, my friends think that pulling it from a shared folder is slower than FTP, which on windows it is
[09:35] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, shouldn't be
[09:35] <f_newton> what is the error msg ronybeck ?
[09:35] <ilba7r> other wise look at ubuntu guide.org they show you how to set proftp there
[09:36] <Burgundavia> ilba7r, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok a big ol list of java stuf popd up which one do i actually want?
[09:36] <ronybeck> f_newton, It seems to lock up on starting PCMCIA services or when it tries to detect the network card
[09:36] <ilba7r> burgundavia why? its really good
[09:36] <f_newton> ah
[09:36] <Xyc0> !ubuntuguide
[09:36] <gorilla_> !ubuntuguide
[09:36] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:36] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, also why? I have heard a lot od people say not to reccomend it but dont knwo why
[09:36] <f_newton> is it one of those onboard intel thingys?
[09:36] <gorilla_> Xyc0, :-)
[09:37] <ilba7r> ok ubotu will check it out
[09:37] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, see the above statement by ubotu
[09:37] <ronybeck> f_newton, yep.
[09:37] <tonii> where can I find the kernel source for Ubuntu? I need it for the nvidia driver. :)
[09:37] <f_newton> itw2200 or something?
[09:37] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, that is true. I have found that I am always asking myself why it is having me do what i am doing
[09:37] <logical_mark> I would rather it teach me than tell me
[09:37] <Burgundavia> tonii, why not simply install the nvidia driver from the repos?
[09:37] <crimsun> tonii: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <ronybeck> f_newton, 1925abg
[09:37] <tonii> Burgundavia: didn't know there was such option?
[09:37] <tonii> first time i try Ubuntu
[09:38] <f_newton> uh the source code better come with the os install
[09:38] <ronybeck> f_newton, 2915abg sorry
[09:38] <Burgundavia> tonii, see the link crimsun gave you, actually quite simple
[09:38] <Burgundavia> f_newton, it must be avaible
[09:38] <f_newton> whats the first letters of it ronybeck
[09:38] <Burgundavia> f_newton, not necessarily installed by default
[09:38] <f_newton> it must accompany the software
[09:38] <tonii> Burgundavia: I will. :)
[09:38] <Xyc0> too bad ati cant be that easy
[09:38] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, should I use Samba or NFS to setup sharing?
[09:38] <crimsun> f_newton: it doesn't come on the cd, but one can install it from pool.
[09:38] <ronybeck> ipw
[09:38] <Xyc0> meh gnite all
[09:38] <ronybeck> f_newton, ipw
[09:39] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, samba, if you have windows friends
[09:39] <f_newton> you have the right to modify, distribute, providing you INCLUDE it
[09:39] <Burgundavia> f_newton, "If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code.
[09:39] <Burgundavia> 4."
[09:39] <f_newton> ol
[09:39] <f_newton> uh ok
[09:40] <barkley> crimsun, thanks for your guidance, i at least got rhythmbox to play my 80s music:)
[09:40] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, all my friends run windows. As a matter of fact the reasson I am trying to get into linux is b/c I want to get into network security and a lot of IT stuff. Everyone I talk to says Learn LInux and C
[09:40] <ronybeck> f_newton, any clues?
[09:40] <logical_mark> but so far I really like it
[09:40] <barkley> logical_mark, you need both
[09:40] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, you can do network security on windows, it is not pretty (I have an MCP, for the record)
[09:40] <logical_mark> barkley, I need Samba and NFS?
[09:40] <barkley> logical_mark, windows is increasing int he server market
[09:40] <ilba7r> ok burgundavia i see the point there
[09:41] <Burgundavia> barkley, both are growing
[09:41] <barkley> logical_mark, zealots don't get hired
[09:41] <f_newton> yeah there is a timeout issue with those wifi chipsets and the work around is available but I think you have install first
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !java
[09:41] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:41] <logical_mark> barkley, zealots?
[09:41] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, MCP?
[09:41] <barkley> logical_mark, open source zealots
[09:41] <f_newton> ask Burgundavia or Amaranth they are very knowlegable
[09:41] <ronybeck> f_newton, yeah that doesn't help me though :-/
[09:41] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, Microsoft Certified Professional (Windows 2000 server)
[09:41] <f_newton> yes but the two I mentioned may be abel to
[09:42] <logical_mark> barkley, sorry but I still dont understand. I have only been in the OSS community for, eh, 3 days
[09:42] <barkley> logical_mark, i've been programming linux since '97 www.jbmelectronics.com
[09:42] <barkley> logical_mark, i hate FSF zealots. not open source zealots
[09:42] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, knowledge of both is useful. You will get more money by doing linux stuff
[09:42] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, I am still in high school guys so I have a lot of time to learn, but i like to be ahead
[09:42] <logical_mark> barkley, FSF?
[09:42] <logical_mark> bear with me guys I am new to all this
[09:43] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, Free Software Foundation. Basically started the whole Free Software/OSS thing
[09:43] <barkley> logical: the Free Software Foundation....a socialist organization that was founded by the socialist Richard Stallman
[09:43] <logical_mark> I will have to read up on them
[09:43] <guardianx3> how do i make x-chat automatically join ubuntu channel when ever i connect to freenode???
[09:43] <Amaranth> That'll be enough FUD for the night.
[09:44] <Madpilot> Amaranth: +q on barkley?
[09:44] <guardianx3> i'm getting tire of typing  /join #ubuntu
[09:44] <logical_mark> I have taken C++, Java, and Visual Basic @ my high school so I can understand lanuages quickly
[09:44] <radiodog> guardianx3, go to the server list, double click on the freenode server you use, and you'll see that magic box you want.
[09:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok anyone know how to install the stupid java crap from suns site?
[09:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like an easy way to do it >.<
[09:44] <crimsun> Amaranth: please direct them to #ubuntu-offtopic first as a warning.
[09:44] <Burgundavia> guardianx3, when at the server dialog, simply choose the ubuntu servers option
[09:44] <logical_mark> But the move from windows to linux us harder for me to wrap my mind around you know
[09:44] <cafuego_> Madpilot: he used "socialist" as if it was a dirty word
[09:44] <barkley> let's be honest
[09:44] <Amaranth> crimsun: your turn, i'm grouchy
[09:44] <barkley> the FSF is a political organization
[09:44] <barkley> and does not represent open source
[09:45] <Burgundavia> barkley, yes it is, but it is a not a socialist one
[09:45] <Amaranth> crimsun: and this channel pisses me off more every day, so yeah, i'll sleep now
[09:45] <Madpilot> cafuego: some people do. I think they're idiots for doing so, but there you go
[09:45] <crimsun> guys, remember #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:45] <crimsun> you're welcome to discuss non-support topics there.
[09:45] <barkley> Burgundavia, let's goto offtopic
[09:45] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, to boil it down, the FSF don't like the term Open source
[09:45] <logical_mark> where is the off topic?
[09:45] <Burgundavia> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <crimsun> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <barkley> anybody that brings in FSF politics in here needs to be shown that the FSF doesn't represent open source
[09:46] <f_newton> cafuego, if you'd seen the things ive seen you would think it a dirty word
[09:46] <guardianx3> radiodog - do i jus type unbuntu or  /join #ubuntu
[09:46] <logical_mark> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can someone help me to install java ubotu's howto sucks >.<
[09:46] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, assuming you are on x-chat, simply right click on that link and select join
[09:46] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what is the problem?
[09:46] <cafuego_> ChurcH_of_FoamY: let me justf ix that factoid for you
[09:46] <guardianx3> how do i make nvtv fit the whole tv when i switch  tv mode??
[09:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin <-----= i got this from suns website
[09:47] <radiodog> guardianx3, type #ubuntu
[09:47] <guardianx3> the whole tv screen
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but the howto that the wiki gives and the link dosen't look right to me
[09:47] <_ray> ok.......i got it so xine is the default....and it works....but when i click on big movies it plays the mp3 file next in the list instead of the movie...if i right click and say open with xine it works fine
[09:47] <_ray> oops
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the versions and the files seem to be diffrent
[09:47] <_ray> sorry guys wrong room
[09:47] <f_newton> lol
[09:47] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, so did you run that file?
[09:47] <radiodog> ChurcH_of_FoamY, chmod +x jre*.bin , ./jre*.bin , follow instructs?
[09:47] <cafuego_> f_newton: all of sweden is evil, eh
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't even know how >.<
[09:47] <ram_einstein> I want to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg
[09:48] <ram_einstein> how do I do it
[09:48] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, no prob I will show you
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:48] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, just type this fist: chmod +x jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin
[09:48] <guardianx3> how do i make this pc(ubuntu ) see the files share on workgroup called goku ?
[09:48] <f_newton> cafuego, socialism is a lure for selfish lazy men to gain control of poor working stiffs in the end you end up paying more taxes to the state and nothing gets done
[09:48] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, that will make the file executable
[09:49] <guardianx3> the goku network is windows
[09:49] <cafuego_> !tell ChurcH_of_FoamY -about java
[09:49] <f_newton> but that is really off topic
[09:49] <ram_einstein> How to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg
[09:49] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, Then type: ./jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin
[09:49] <f_newton> I dont want to be dragged into that conversation
[09:49] <raven3x7> is there a way to remove kde after installing it with "install Kubuntu-Desktop". removing that removes almost nothing.
[09:49] <crimsun> ronybeck: do you know about 'java-package' from multiverse? It works with JRE/JDK 1.5.0, too.
[09:50] <ram_einstein> How to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg in the same directory? ofcourse not f_newton
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok it says no sutch file or dir
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's right there on my desktop >.<
[09:50] <ram_einstein> rename .jpg.jpg.jpg .jpg doesn't work
[09:50] <f_newton> what are you on about ram_einstein ?
[09:50] <ilba7r> raven3*7 search for all kde packages by synaptic and remove what you do not want
[09:50] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you need to be in the directory that you downloaded the jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin file to
[09:50] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, you are back
[09:50] <guardianx3> how do i get files off my windows computer who is on a workgroup called (goku)
[09:51] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, crimsun has a better idea though
[09:51] <ram_einstein> I don't want to involve you f_newton
[09:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was
[09:51] <jtgameover> i think i found a solution, but i gotta find it again
[09:51] <ram_einstein> yes jtgameover
[09:51] <raven3x7> ilba7r, thats reallly not that easy
[09:51] <ram_einstein> please do
[09:51] <ram_einstein> it's very important
[09:51] <crimsun> ram_einstein: for i in *.jpg.jpg.jpg; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i"|sed s/.jpg.jpg.jpg/.jpg/`"; done
[09:51] <f_newton> hey ram_einstein thats plenty fine with me.. I already told you I didnt do that stuff
[09:51] <guardianx3>  how do i get files off my windows computer who is on a workgroup called (goku)
[09:52] <ram_einstein> thanks!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:52] <ram_einstein> thanks so much crimsun
[09:52] <onkarshinde> I am having problem with recording sound with Mic. Can anyone help me?
[09:52] <ilba7r> raven3*7 the problem with apt-get or synaptic they do not remember what packages was dependent on kde that you installed. Thats why i prefer aptitude
[09:52] <crimsun> onkarshinde: what sound chipset? cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:53] <onkarshinde> crimsun: 0 snd_via82xx
[09:53] <crimsun> onkarshinde: have you selected the mic as the input (recording) device using alsamixer?
[09:54] <raven3x7> ilba7r, if i remove kubuntu-desktop with aptitude could that work?
[09:54] <ilba7r> raven3*7 if you installed it by aptitude it will otherwise no
[09:55] <ilba7r> and kde and kubuntu-desktop are just dummy packages to install most kde packages that you need
[09:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cafuego_ your a genius ^_^
[09:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now that was so absurdly simple you should replace the wikipage with that
[09:56] <raven3x7> hmm i might have. someone told me it had better dependency checking
[09:57] <raven3x7> dawm didint work
[09:57] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I have opened alsamixer in capture mode. But how to enable mic?
[09:57] <crimsun> onkarshinde: press space bar when the mic is active
[09:58] <glick> how come the sound doesnt work when i play enemy territory?
[09:58] <znh> Lag: 2 second.. lol :-D
[09:58] <znh> glick: I know a sollution
[09:58] <linuxboy> Can Ubuntu play 3gp files?
[09:58] <glick> znh, what?
[09:58] <znh> glick: gimme a sec, i'll search it again
[09:58] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Sorry, but i didn't get the meaning of mic is active
[09:58] <glick> thanks
[09:59] <crimsun> onkarshinde: scroll over to the mic selection, and press the space bar.
[09:59] <glick> actually the game only plays when i do esddsp et
[09:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crimsun:  did you give me that neat howto for java?
[09:59] <onkarshinde> crimsun: It doesn't make a difference.
[09:59] <glick> but when i just to et, it changes the resolution of the screen and there is a black screen and thats it
[09:59] <znh> glick: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22546.html
[09:59] <znh> glick: oh you are using gnome?
[09:59] <crimsun> glick: that's because (1) your sound card only supports one sound at a time, and (2) esd is hogging that sound device.
[10:00] <glick> znh, yes
[10:00] <znh> glick: disable gnomes sound server at System->Sound
[10:00] <glick> ah
[10:00] <znh> ubotu: gnome is terrible
[10:00] <ubotu> okay, znh
[10:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey look at that it workes ^_^ YAY
[10:00] <znh> :-P
[10:00] <znh> !gnome
[10:00] <ubotu> gnome is, like, terrible
[10:00] <crimsun> glick: you either have to (1) use esddsp et, or (2) stop esd by using esdctl or by pkill esd or System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable Sound server startup
[10:00] <glick> znh, disable the sound server then restart gnome?
[10:00] <znh> glick: not needed :-)
[10:00] <arbir> how do i install the latest ogg vorbis encoder ?
[10:01] <crimsun> arbir: install 'vorbis-tools'
[10:01] <arbir> crimsun: it install 1.0.1 not the latest 1.1.1
[10:01] <crimsun> arbir: Hoary doesn't have 1.1.1.
[10:01] <arbir> i have backports @ crimsun
[10:01] <arbir> crimsun: so tell me of a way to install 1.1.1
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: then backports doesn't have 1.1.1. Caveat: I don't use backports.
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: grab the deb-src from Breezy and compile it.
[10:02] <arbir> i also need lame @ crimson
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can Linux download podcasts?
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: then look at debian-marillat
[10:02] <arbir> where can i get the source from ?
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for my ipod
[10:02] <znh> !cedaga
[10:02] <ubotu> znh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: from pool.
[10:02] <znh> !cedega
[10:02] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[10:03] <crimsun> arbir: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:03] <znh> !wine
[10:03] <arbir> let me take a look crimsun
[10:03] <crimsun> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no idea. Was this 'java-package'?
[10:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll show you
[10:03] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I did as you say. Still sound can't be recorded.
[10:03] <crimsun> onkarshinde: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:04] <onkarshinde> Ok
[10:04] <arbir> can i not use breezy as my repository and just get the vorbis?
[10:04] <salutis> hello all
[10:04] <crimsun> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no, I didn't, though I mentioned 'java-package' to someone.
[10:04] <arbir> helo salutis
[10:05] <crimsun> arbir: no, you can't.
[10:05] <arbir> uh oh :-(
[10:05] <crimsun> arbir: Breezy has newer dependencies that Hoary cannot satisfy.
[10:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[10:05] <ballatition> hello all
[10:05] <salutis> ballatition: hi
[10:05] <arbir> hmmm
[10:05] <arbir> and how do i get Lame ?
[10:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so can Ubuntu use podcasts i use gktpod and it works fine but i don't know if it can use podcasts
[10:06] <ballatition> I am kinda new to linux and need some help
[10:06] <hyphenated> arbir: you copy the dorkiest kid you know. then you'll get lame
[10:06] <crimsun> arbir: it should be in multiverse.
[10:06] <hyphenated> (alternatively, try apt-get install lame)
[10:07] <crimsun> !info lame
[10:07] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[10:07] <onkarshinde> crimsun: If I select Alsa for source in Multimedia Systems Selector and try to test then it gives me some test pipeline error..
[10:07] <arbir> apt-get -s install lame
[10:07] <arbir> Reading package lists... Done
[10:07] <arbir> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:07] <arbir> Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:07] <arbir> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:08] <crimsun> onkarshinde: and if you choose esd?
[10:08] <arbir> is only available from another source
[10:08] <znh> ubotu: samba provides filesharing with microsoft windows, for more information: http://www.samba.org
[10:08] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, znh
[10:08] <arbir> E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[10:08] <f_newton> arbir yer headed fer trouble
[10:08] <crimsun> arbir: please don't flood in this channel, thanks.
[10:08] <znh> ubotu: samba is samba provides filesharing with microsoft windows, for more information: http://www.samba.org
[10:08] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, znh
[10:08] <crimsun> arbir: apt-cache policy lame
[10:08] <crimsun> arbir: paste in #flood
[10:08] <arbir> ok crimson
[10:09] <guardianx> how do u install samba????i couldnt follow along with this tut - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29 because  my general tab doesnt have the ( current network profile ) option
[10:09] <onkarshinde> crimsun: esd doesn't give any problem for any of source or sink.
[10:10] <arbir> crimsun: i pasted in flood
[10:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i make beep media player the default player for .mp3's?
[10:10] <crimsun> onkarshinde: ok, and have you configured the volumes correctly using the Volume Control?
[10:10] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Yes.
[10:10] <crimsun> arbir: you don't have multiverse enabled
[10:10] <arbir> crimsun: what must i do ?
[10:11] <LasseL> guardianx, check the System > Administration > Shared Folders menu
[10:11] <crimsun> arbir: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:11] <arbir> let me check that crimsun
[10:11] <crimsun> onkarshinde: did you paste your amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[10:12] <dazjorz> hello again :)
[10:12] <ce_imoet> hii..
[10:12] <salutis> hi
[10:12] <dazjorz> this time I'm the one with linux problems :P
[10:12] <ce_imoet> hiii juga
[10:12] <dazjorz> euhh
[10:12] <arbir> i dont have a gui
[10:13] <Madpilot> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you mean visualization stuff? dancing random stuff? Totem does that
[10:13] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Do you mean to capture all the console view of alsamixer?
[10:13] <dazjorz> installation keeps failing on the shitty machine i have here next to me
[10:13] <arbir> i have ssh'ed into my machine which is far away
[10:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i know but it won't play the mp3's
[10:13] <dazjorz> i fixed some problems in shell 2, where i did in /usr/bin # ln -s udpkg dpkg
[10:13] <dazjorz> that worked
[10:13] <dazjorz> but i also have kernel installing problems
[10:13] <arbir> i have ssh'ed into my machine which is far away @ crimsun
[10:13] <arbir> i dont have a gui @ crimsun
[10:13] <dazjorz> and also problems with the Release file after I tried installing 2 times
[10:14] <ce_imoet> hii..
[10:14] <arbir> can u tell me the link for multiverse @ crimsun ?
[10:14] <ce_imoet> hii....pa khabar
[10:14] <crimsun> onkarshinde: no, type amixer, and paste its output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:15] <Madpilot> ChurcH_of_FoamY: mine does just fine - check the Restricted formats stuff on  the wiki
[10:15] <crimsun> arbir: did you read the wiki? You can use w3m.
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[10:15] <ce_imoet> hi...kenalan dunxxxx] 
[10:15] <suma> hey ppl.... can somebody help me out pls.... i was trying to remove the network boot option so i ran: update-rc.d -f networking remove  ... it is removed but it takes around 15 minutes for gnome to load... any suggestions?
[10:16] <crimsun> suma: oh my, you really didn't want to do that.
[10:16] <guardianx> is there an auto log in option in ubuntu?? i'm tire of typing the log/pw everytime i log into the pc
[10:16] <djcheezecake> exit
[10:16] <ce_imoet> ok
[10:16] <arbir> i dont get you at all @ crimsun
[10:16] <suma> crimsun: what should i do :(
[10:16] <crimsun> suma: at most, you could have removed the auto lines in /etc/network/interfaces, but DO NOT remove it for the loopback (lo).
[10:16] <dazjorz> Guardianw I think there is some option in the control panel of KDE
[10:16] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I did it.
[10:16] <crimsun> suma: reverse your actions using update-rc.d
[10:17] <crimsun> onkarshinde: sec
[10:17] <ce_imoet> hi....
[10:17] <dazjorz>  ==> i've got problems with the installer, it tells me the mirrors release files aren't correct
[10:17] <arbir> is sleepy
[10:17] <arbir> has to go now
[10:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to make beep-media-player the default player for mp3's in Ubuntu?
[10:17] <suma> crimsun: update-rc.d networking defaults 35 (is the number 35? i says differently at other sites)
[10:17] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: To change the default app for a filetype - right click on an mp3 file in Nautilus (the file browser), select Properties and the Open With tab.
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[10:18] <glick> ET is a pretty cool game
[10:18] <ce_imoet> hiii....knalan duuunx....
[10:18] <dazjorz>           The installer tells me "Bad archive mirror" for both nl.archive.ubuntu.com HTTP and FTP
[10:18] <glick> whats the point of the esd?
[10:18] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hopefully bmp is listed, otherwise you'll need to add it to the list
[10:18] <glick> why not have it off all the time?
[10:18] <crimsun> suma: it's 40 on Breezy.
[10:19] <glick> what does the esd do?
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok but i don't want to have to do that erverytime though is there a way to get it to just do it on regular clicking automaticly?
[10:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and yea it's there
[10:19] <dazjorz> ^^
[10:20] <dazjorz> comon ?
[10:20] <dazjorz> Mirror*
[10:20] <glick> do i need to run the esd ?
[10:21] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: whatever you set should stay until you change it again
[10:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[10:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm just getting the final tweaks done on my box
[10:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and then i'm gonna try to burn my entire hard drive to dvd's to back it up
[10:22] <crimsun> onkarshinde: you need to deselect IEC958 as the recording device and mute it
[10:22] <bimberi> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ha - you'll never finish tweaking :)
[10:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[10:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[10:22] <spiral> why does apt-get remove postfix remove mysql and mutt as well?
[10:22] <logical_mark> hey guys
[10:22] <starfishy> ive been tweaking for more than 10 years :D
[10:23] <logical_mark> I just used SPM to install KDE and now I dont know how to use it instead of gnome
[10:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybe not stupid .RPM >.<
[10:23] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Done.
[10:23] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Should I try recording now?
[10:23] <dazjorz> logical mark
[10:23] <dazjorz> when gnome starts
[10:23] <dazjorz> you see some Service thingy
[10:23] <dazjorz> that should be set to KDE
[10:23] <dazjorz> and also
[10:24] <dazjorz> your default is not set to KDE, but i dont know how to do that manually, I myself got a question when I installed KDE
[10:24] <dazjorz> display manager should be set to kdm
[10:24] <crimsun> onkarshinde: in alsamixer, using the recording view (F4), is mic selected and toggled on?
[10:24] <dazjorz> (sorry for multiple lines)
[10:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know this is probibly a bad question to ask but how do you install limewire cause i don't know of anything else that is p2p for Linux
[10:25] <logical_mark> dazjorz let me restart and see what happens thanks
[10:25] <dazjorz> Church_of_Foamy: There is a KaZaA for Linux
[10:25] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Yes It is.
[10:25] <dazjorz> its console though
[10:25] <crimsun> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there are a bevy of p2p network clients for Linux; search the Ubuntu forum and Google
[10:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kazza for Linux where?
[10:25] <dazjorz> Google
[10:26] <salutis> Church_of_Foamy: i using gtk-gnutella from respository. very good p2p program.
[10:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[10:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll try that
[10:26] <raven3x7> Kazaa sucks
[10:27] <salutis> kazaa is virus ..)
[10:27] <dazjorz>  ==> How do I DHCP-configure my network when the DHCP server is at 192.168.1.254 not on 192.168.1.1
[10:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm just looking for a really good p2p program and gtkpod diden't let me down so i'll try the gtk-gnutella
[10:27] <dazjorz> ( -.- )
[10:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybe it will work
[10:27] <glick> znh, Enemy Territory always downloads huge game data files when i connect to a server, will those fillup my disk?
[10:28] <raven3x7> ChurcH_of_FoamY, there are instructions for installing limewire in ubuntuguide
[10:28] <crimsun> glick: if you have very little free disk space, yes.
[10:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[10:28] <salutis> Church_of_Foamy: gtk-gnutella is for my best client. many options and good interface. it connection with many p2p networks..
[10:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'd rather use "Linux Freindly" apps ^_^
[10:28] <glick> crimsun, i have decent disk space, but each time i connect to a server it usually downloads 15+ megs
[10:28] <Poromies> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you know bittorrent right?
[10:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[10:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love bittorrent
[10:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[10:29] <onkarshinde> crimsun: there?
[10:29] <glick> where can i delete those files?
[10:29] <crimsun> onkarshinde: yes?
[10:29] <Poromies> well, put up azureus then and go
[10:29] <hyphenated> glick: yeah, it drops them all in ~/.etwolf/etmain or ~/.etwolf/etpro or whichever
[10:29] <hyphenated> glick: look for big .pk3 files in there.
[10:29] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Still the recording is not working.
[10:30] <persia> dazjorz: You should not have to do anything special: DHCP should be configured through broadcast.
[10:30] <crimsun> onkarshinde: did you adjust the mic level?
[10:30] <crimsun> onkarshinde: also, check alsa.opensrc.org
[10:30] <glick> hyphenated, not the pak0-2 files though?
[10:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> me opens up gtk-gnutella and is both overwhelmed and stumped by the huge volume of info and options O_o
[10:30] <hyphenated> glick: probably not
[10:31] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Is there anything like unlocking device or something?
[10:31] <dazjorz> persia: I can't download the release file from any server. But i'm sure that the same settings work at my own pc. The installation does not recognise the network card but I can use modprobe 3c509 to make it do that.
[10:32] <glick> im surprised that the game isnt more popular than it is
[10:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> salutis can you help me with gtk-gnutella?
[10:32] <persia> dazjorz: My apologies: I appear to have entered in the middle.  What sort of DHCP error are you getting?
[10:33] <dazjorz> persia: Can't find any DHCP server. The DHCP server could be slow or the hardware isn't working
[10:33] <dazjorz> persia: But other times it work just as it has to.
[10:34] <persia> dazjorz: And you know you have a working DHCP server on the network?
[10:34] <hyphenated> glick: enemy territory? it was pretty big for a while, 2nd in the most played network games
[10:34] <dazjorz> persia: I am now installing for like the fifth time. There is every time some error.
[10:34] <hyphenated> glick: but there's nothing behind it but the modding community, which took time to catch up. so people lost interest
[10:34] <dazjorz> persia: I should have. What is the DHCP port? I can check if its working then.
[10:34] <crimsun> onkarshinde: no, but your chipset may have particular quirks. Check the ALSA wiki.
[10:35] <glick> thats too bad :(
[10:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok gtk-gnutella i've made my judgement gtk-gnutella ROCKS!
[10:35] <spiral> how do I change the password for sudo?
[10:36] <dazjorz> spiral: by changing the password for the root user
[10:36] <glick> i just wish that months ago when i asked if anyone new any cool games for linux they would have directed me to it
[10:36] <spiral> dazjorz, I tried that, and it did not work
[10:37] <raven3x7> spiral change your user pass
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i use point2play for my games and it runs so far every game i have
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i got dosbox to run my old DOS games (altho i haven't figured out how to use it just yet >.<
[10:37] <persia> dazjorz: client port is 68, server port is 67.  I'm not that familiar with the install process, but I'm happy to work to solve DHCP issues.
[10:38] <spiral> raven3x7 can you give me a specific command?
[10:38] <dazjorz> telnet 192.168.1.254 67 gives me: Trying 192.168.1.254....
[10:38] <persia> spiral: passwd
[10:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um can k3b burn .mp3's to cd for use in cd-players
[10:39] <spiral> persia I tried that...
[10:39] <nightswim> yes
[10:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there any tweaking to be done first?
[10:40] <persia> dazjorz: DHCP is a little more complicated than that: the client needs to send with the source address 0.0.0.0, and the desctination address 255.255.255.255 for anything to happen.  Does the output of `netstat -rn` show a line beginning 192.168.1.0?
[10:40] <dazjorz> persia: You mean on shell 2 ? I just restarted the PC, so first i'll try network config again
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> when I try to print newgrounds.com firefox crashes
[10:40] <Amaranth> Don't do that. :P
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> lol
[10:41] <persia> dazjorz: As I said, I'm not that familiar with the install process, but yes, from a standard shell, if the netstat utility is available.
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> I wanted to see what happens.  Well, it crashes every time
[10:44] <wickedpuppy> hi guys ... i am about to buy a dvd writer and wondering if any of you got any advice?
[10:44] <guardianx> how do i  make nvtv fit on the tv screen???
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> wickedpuppy: get a hybrid cd/dvd rewritable one
[10:45] <glick> hey does anyone know what ports roadrunner internet blocks?
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> i thought all dvd writers also can write cd
[10:45] <persia> dazjorz: If netstat is not available, try `cat /proc/route`.  You'd be looking for a line starting 0001A8C0.
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> i mean ubuntu support for the dvd writers
[10:46] <dazjorz> persia: Network is working now :) I think I did modprobe 3c509 a bit too late
[10:46] <wickedpuppy> any major brand that is not compitable with ubuntu ?
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> wickedpuppy: well, Ubuntu appears to support all of the dvd writers I've tried with it
[10:46] <persia> dazjorz: Excellent.  Good luck!
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> does anyone know where I can get a standalone flash player exe?
[10:46] <guardianx> is there a way to set auto log in in ubuntu??
[10:46] <wickedpuppy> ah great great
[10:46] <Madpilot> wickedpuppy: I've got a Pioneer 109 if you're lookig for specific brand recommends - its worked flawlessly so far
[10:46] <wickedpuppy> ah great
[10:47] <wickedpuppy> that will give me some ideas
[10:47] <dazjorz> persia: Thanks for your help :)
[10:47] <wickedpuppy> thanks guys
[10:47] <dazjorz>              sdl-config: Command not found
[10:47] <dazjorz>              where do I get it ?
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> dazjorz: use apt-file
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> to find out
[10:47] <guardianx> can i set up auto log in . in ubuntu??
[10:48] <crimsun> dazjorz: libsdl1.2-dev
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> guardianx: yes you can.  System -> admin -> login screen setup
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what's better Graveman or Gnomebaker or k3b ?
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> wait what the...
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> where did my "Login screen setup" button go?  It used to be there..  wtf
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for burning mp3's
[10:49] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no idea, try them all.  k3b looks cool though
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i used k3b but don't know if it can burn cd's for use in car and sterio players
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I'd assume that as long as they're CD-Rs (not RW) they would work.  Go on, try it
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> plus it gives me an error if i try to burn a cd too fast
[10:50] <daxuza> hello all
[10:50] <raven3x7> spiral sorry i went away from the keyboard. i dont really remember the command but you could use System > Administration > Users and Groups
[10:50] <tiglionabbit> then don't burn too fast
[10:50] <dazjorz> tiglionabbit: thanks
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can get 4x outta 52x on my burner >.<
[10:50] <spiral> raven3x7: I'm not the spiral who was there earlier... He took my nick...
[10:51] <dazjorz> crimsun / tiglionabbit: apt-file: command not found
[10:51] <raven3x7> oh
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> spiral: registered it?
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> dazjorz: you'll have to get apt-file.  It's in universe
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> !info apt-file
[10:51] <ubotu> apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[10:51] <crimsun> dazjorz: I told you which package you need to install.
[10:51] <spiral> tiglionabbit: yes, my nick is registered... So I did a nickserv ghost on it
[10:51] <dazjorz> crimsum / tiglionabbit: I've got apt-get but not apt-file.
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> ah
[10:51] <dazjorz> wait i'm not root atm
[10:52] <spiral> dazjorz: apt-get install apt-file
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> dazjorz: it's a package.  But then again, I'm not sure it will find what you're looking for, sorry
[10:53] <dazjorz> everyone: I did sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev and it worked too :)
[10:54] <dazjorz> by the way, is DLL the same format as SO ? WINE uses DLL linked to SO files. Can I just rename a DLL to a SO ?
[10:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmm k3b dosen't seem to like .wma files
[10:55] <dazjorz> cuz PCSX2 needs a PADWIN module. On the website it says that it works for Linux too. But after make, I just get a dll files
[10:55] <jtgameover> what's a simple color-chooser program?
[10:55] <dazjorz> file*
[10:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> looks like i'm gonna have to convert them to mp3 if i can figure out how >.<
[10:58] <guardianx> how do i  fit the whole screen in nvtv?? because when ever i use  movie doesnt fit in the whole screen... the movie becomes very big .. even tho i pic the small resolution  in nvtv
[11:00] <starfishy> why wouldnt it?
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it never has before with my old cd burner
[11:01] <starfishy> depends on both the burner and the media used
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it would crap out at anything abouve  4x
[11:01] <starfishy> :)
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> went out and bought a sony super drive
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for dvd/cd/cd-rw/dvd-rw
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this is the first time i am using it in Linux though
[11:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i ripped it outta wifys computer (winsux box)
[11:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and gaver her my old one
[11:04] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[11:05] <PurpleMotion> that was a BAD idea
[11:05] <glick> damn its 5 am here perhaps i should head to bed sometime in the near future
[11:05] <PurpleMotion> i had more artifacts than a ninety year old museum curator
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> roflmao
[11:06] <PurpleMotion> hey i found a flaw in foamy
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> where
[11:06] <PurpleMotion> in fan mail eight, he says he cant go back and change something because he doesnt have a time machine
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i cuaght that too
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> conflicts with yesterday mail
[11:07] <dazjorz> Jesus
[11:07] <PurpleMotion> but in the owner, he and pillz-e go back in time and then we saw hitler and then we said hi and then we shot him in the head (but that never happened, okay)
[11:07] <levander> Ubuntu has a Hardware Compatibility List?
[11:07] <dazjorz> my internet is going soooooooooooooo slow at the moment
[11:07] <dazjorz> wtf :S
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i ahven't seen that one i think
[11:07] <PurpleMotion> and yesterday mail is completely based around the time machine
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i know
[11:07] <PurpleMotion> really? its hilarious
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> got the link?
[11:07] <PurpleMotion> oh my god there's a boogar on your butt
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's one i haven't seen O_o
[11:08] <PurpleMotion> hrmm
[11:08] <PurpleMotion> tell ya what
[11:08] <PurpleMotion> i have ALL of them
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:08] <PurpleMotion> I'll put them on a url for you, but you have to tell me when you're done getting them, cause i dont want to support the kind of traffic that a foamy archive would produce
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want to put them on vcd for myself but don't know how to get them fromn the website to my computer yet in Linux >.<
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok lol
[11:08] <Kev0r> In a C-file, how do i run a linux command?
[11:09] <PurpleMotion> right click, save as
[11:09] <bimberi> levander: There's some info on the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:09] <ishit> hey i need some urgent help on ubuntu
[11:09] <ishit> anyone there
[11:09] <levander> bimberi: Great! I was really expecting there just to be nothing! I'll go check it out now.
[11:09] <jfk303> highvoltage, can I apt-get install  the open source .net implementation 'Mono'?
[11:10] <bimberi> !info mono
[11:10] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[11:10] <acid2> Hey, ermmm.. anybody good with makefiles?
[11:10] <bimberi> jfk303: there you go - you'll need to enable the universe repository
[11:10] <acid2> I wanted to know if there is a command similar to cd in it (because cd doesn't work)
[11:11] <jfk303> bimberi, I've got that
[11:11] <highvoltage> jfk303: why are you asking me? i keep my distance from anything .net as far as possible!
[11:11] <acid2> jfk303: what are the problems?
[11:11] <acid2> Im a mono lover :)
[11:11] <highvoltage> acid2: well, that's not my problem ;)
[11:11] <acid2> highvoltage: ummm ?
[11:11] <PurpleMotion> alright church, they're uploading
[11:12] <levander> bimberi: that page is only about 75% complete, even as a version 1.0.  But it's a lot better start than what I expected...
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY>  PurpleMotion ok pm me the url when you can
[11:12] <PurpleMotion> actually
[11:12] <bimberi> jfk303: k
[11:12] <PurpleMotion> im gonna spit it out in the channel in case anyone else wants it...
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[11:12] <jfk303> highvoltage, i put 'hi' into xchat  automatically filled in you name
[11:12] <jfk303> soory
[11:12] <PurpleMotion> then ill leave it up for 24 hours
[11:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow
[11:13] <bimberi> levander: yes - it's more complete than (the initially more promising looking) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareDatabase
[11:13] <highvoltage> jfk303: np
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> p2p will never die screw you iraa and goberment winos
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> muhahahaha
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> iraa=riaa
[11:14] <bimberi> lol (winos in particular)
[11:14] <PurpleMotion> i wouldnt have such a problem with them if they actually paid their artists
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> true true
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for /public_html/foamy/15_5MoreMinutes.swf
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> damn its 5am
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is that the link O_o
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> check this out
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> im going to bed
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> noooooo
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> there's 81 episodes
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:15] <glick> they do pay their artists wtf u talkin about?
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> they're uploading
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what's the link?
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> the url is http://www.Daede.Com/foamy
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> there are 2 number 80's
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> the right order is 80_handmade.swf and 81_ff8.swf
[11:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> anytime man
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> like i said i been with foamy fromt he beginning
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> i have a foamy tattoo
[11:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just got hooked like 6 monthes ago
[11:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O awsome ^_^
[11:17] <PurpleMotion> and a two foot tall vinyl foamy ont he back windshield of my car
[11:17] <PurpleMotion> foamy is my hero
[11:17] <PurpleMotion> ya neo yuppie scumbags
[11:18] <PurpleMotion> anyways
[11:18] <PurpleMotion> sleep, now, fsckers
[11:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> night
[11:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and thanx ^_^
[11:23] <dazjorz> how do I unrar RAR archives ?
[11:23] <dazjorz> it tells me PAD.rar isn't a RAR archive
[11:23] <levander> Anybody know what the /dev/sg* files are for?  I'm looking at a flash program for my DVD-RW that says I need /dev/sg* files.  I don't have them and don't know what they are.
[11:23] <Burgundavia> dazjorz, wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:23] <dazjorz> oh lol
[11:23] <dazjorz> it was a renamed tar file
[11:23] <dazjorz> sorry
[11:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> omg a 404 error >.<
[11:24] <guardianx> how do i make the movies fit into the tv screen when i stich to tv out ???
[11:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and a permissions error NOOOooooo >.<
[11:24] <Seveas> dazjorz, install unrar-nonfree
[11:24] <Heijmen> does anyone know a program to rip a cd to mp3 or convert flac to mp3?
[11:24] <HappyFool> levander: i think /dev/sg* are scsi devices; i can't remember the details
[11:25] <levander> HappyFool: yeah, I remember something about that too.  I think you're right, but I'm not sure.
[11:26] <jfk303> HiveChild, I have a broadband router, how can I adjust its settings? I think I need to find its ip, because it has a web based configuration thingy??
[11:26] <jfk303> I have a broadband router, how can I adjust its settings? I think I need to find its ip, because it has a web based configuration thingy??
[11:27] <ubuntu_504_user> help
[11:29] <ubuntu_504_user> i want application for .rar
[11:29] <starfishy> help?
[11:29] <starfishy> unrar?
[11:29] <ubuntu_504_user> yes
[11:29] <Burgundavia> ubuntu_504_user, wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompressin
[11:29] <Burgundavia> ubuntu_504_user, wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:29] <ubuntu_504_user> thx
[11:30] <starfishy> rar 3.30
[11:30] <starfishy> comes with unrar
[11:31] <ubuntu_504_user> what the command ? rar --help ?
[11:31] <ubuntu_504_user> to extract
[11:32] <starfishy> rar x file
[11:32] <ubuntu_504_user> thx
[11:32] <Poromies> if you have universe, then unrar-nonfree gives you broader support of archive and rar formats/versions
[11:33] <ubuntu_504_user> ok
[11:35] <ubuntu_504_user> once more, any body know billing application for internet cafe for ubuntu
[11:35] <starfishy> if you mean something like quickbooks, there are some linux alternatives
[11:35] <dazjorz> PCSX2: Segmentation fault
[11:36] <dazjorz> help!!
[11:36] <starfishy> i cant recommend one though
[11:36] <starfishy> what is pcsx2?
[11:36] <dazjorz> PlayStation 2 emulator
[11:36] <starfishy> ah
[11:36] <starfishy> pre-beta I think
[11:36] <dazjorz> no
[11:40] <starfishy> what game are you trying to play with it?
[11:41] <jfk303> how can I find out y broadband routers ip?
[11:42] <starfishy> its very likely 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
[11:42] <starfishy> but your manual will surely tell you
[11:43] <znh> starfishy: my default was 192.168.2.1
[11:43] <Cayne1> newbie help with synaptic package manager please..trying to add a repository and the dialog box is different to those displayed while googling.. and when i enter via apt line..nothing happens? any suggestions
[11:43] <znh> or just write a bash script that pings a range of 1-255, if pings gives a signal of 0 display the working ip's
[11:44] <harold> Evening, all
[11:44] <znh> good morning harold
[11:45] <jtgameover> Cayne1, what is your problem?
[11:45] <HappyFool> Cayne1: i presume you got as far as 'Settings -> Repositories' ?
[11:45] <harold> znh: Morning
[11:45] <Cayne1> yes
[11:45] <znh> harold: quite funny those timeszones
[11:45] <HappyFool> Cayne1: ok, now click 'Add'
[11:46] <Cayne1> Happyfool...may i send you a screenshot
[11:46] <HappyFool> Cayne1: err, i'm on dial-up
[11:46] <harold> znh: Yes.  Actually, it's morning her, too, now that I think of it.
[11:46] <HappyFool> Cayne1: i'm running synaptic here too, so i'm sure we can manage
[11:46] <jtgameover> Cayne1, the easiest would be to close synaptic, and then edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file in sudo mode
[11:46] <znh> harold: lol :-P
[11:47] <jtgameover> just cut at paste the repos there
[11:47] <jtgameover> but i'd also recommend backing up sources.list first
[11:47] <Cayne1> jtgameover..cheers
[11:48] <jtgameover> huh?
[11:48] <jtgameover> so does that mean it worked?
[11:49] <HappyFool> 'cheers' has a multiple of means; presumably 'thanks', in this case ;)
[11:49] <HappyFool> meanings, even
[11:49] <anacron> can you guys help me a bit, im trying to make wlan work with d-link dwl-510, i have once made it work with my another computer with ndiswrapper and modprobe, but now when i modprobe ndiswrapper it says that operation is not permitted, and im using sudo too, so what can be problem?
[11:50] <znh> !welcome
[11:50] <ubotu> it has been said that welcome is something from those weird humans - they never welcome me :-(!
[11:50] <harold> anacron: Shouldn't you use madwifi?  That's the real deal...
[11:50] <anacron> harold: how does it work?
[11:50] <Cayne1> jtgameover....the main issue is that previously (prior to reinstall) when doing "setting > repositoriesi have had a completely different interface panel which looks exactly like onthis page http://www.debianuniverse.com/readonline/chapter/06
[11:50] <Cayne1> now i dont
[11:50] <harold> anacron: madwifi is a driver; it's made for atheros-based pc cards like your D-link one there.
[11:51] <jtgameover> hmmm yeah
[11:51] <anacron> harold: is it linux driver or just an inf file?
[11:51] <topyli> HappyFool: no it doesn't. it always means "please drink to my health" :)
[11:51] <harold> !madwifi
[11:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, harold
[11:51] <harold> anacron: it's a driver
[11:51] <jtgameover> Cayne1, you mean the repositories interface right?
[11:51] <harold> anacron: Hmmm...one sec...
[11:51] <Cayne1> yes
[11:52] <jtgameover> you mean the buttons are differnt and stuff?
[11:52] <jtgameover> or the stuff displayed (info about repos)
[11:52] <anacron> i don't have any expirience with linux drivers like that
[11:52] <anacron> but if it's wiki then there shouldn't be a problem
[11:52] <harold> anacron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:52] <Cayne1> jtgameover.. stuff displayed
[11:52] <sinferno> can i install multiple versions of cedega @ the same time, i cant get dark age running in cedega 4.4 but i read that it works in 4.0
[11:53] <jtgameover> Cayne1, yes, that is what should happen
[11:53] <jtgameover> you are telling synaptic to look in different places know
[11:53] <jtgameover> if you do "refresh"
[11:53] <jtgameover> it should start downloading the repos lists
[11:54] <Rangitoto> I am looking for a linux distribution which can be installed easily on a Pentium II with 96 Mb RAM. Would you recommend Ubuntu or a different distro?
[11:54] <HappyFool> the wiki has warty synaptic screenshots, which are different from hoary's synaptic
[11:54] <jtgameover> and then you should be good to go and start installing stuff
[11:54] <anacron> harold: and what now, that's just a list of "working cards" how's that supposed to help me?
[11:54] <jtgameover> and Cayne1 I never change my repos list using the synaptic interface
[11:54] <harold> anacron: Sorry
[11:55] <jtgameover> i just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file manually, much easier with cut and paste
[11:55] <znh> !human
[11:55] <ubotu> somebody said human was != me
[11:55] <harold> anacron: Apparently madwifi is already installed on ubuntu; i had to compile it on my system because I have a Mac...
[11:55] <harold> anacron: ...one sec...
[11:55] <anacron> harold: right...
[11:55] <anacron> harold: there's a 520 card, but i have 510
[11:55] <harold> anacron: Try this: run modprobe ath_pci
[11:56] <harold> anacron: Actually, sudo modprobe ath_pci
[11:56] <anacron> harold: yeah i did that
[11:56] <harold> anacron: Any errors/messages/
[11:56] <znh> anyway does anyone know when GNOME 2 comes out, I heard rumors that it comes in christmas
[11:56] <harold> anacron: Any errors or messages?
[11:56] <anacron> harold: no, can you tell what's the name of that network choosing thing
[11:56] <HappyFool> gnome 2?
[11:56] <HappyFool> heh
[11:56] <znh> yep
[11:56] <HappyFool> what version of gnome are you using now?
[11:56] <harold> anacron: iwconfig
[11:57] <znh> HappyFool: none :-)
[11:57] <harold> anacron: Run iwconfig ath0 essid any
[11:57] <HappyFool> hoary has 2.10, i think breezy might have 2.12
[11:57] <jtgameover> yeah
[11:57] <jtgameover> that'll be sweet
[11:57] <znh> HappyFool: then i'm slightly confused.. xD
[11:57] <jtgameover> does anyone here use rox
[11:57] <anacron> harold: can we private chat?
[11:57] <znh> jtgameover: yea I rox :-P
[11:57] <harold> anacron: Also run iwlist ath0 scan to make sure networks are showing up next to ath0
[11:57] <harold> anacron: Sure
[11:58] <anacron> good
[11:58] <jtgameover> znh is it easy to change the icon theme for roxx
[11:58] <Seveas> HappyFool, breezy will have 2.12, the gnome and ubuntu release cycles go hand-in-hand :)
[11:58] <znh> jtgameover: it was a joke :-)
[11:58] <jtgameover> oh sweet
[11:58] <harold> 2
[11:58] <znh> :] 
[11:58] <HappyFool> Seveas: yeah, i was wondering about that. seems awfully convenient ;)
[11:58] <Seveas> HappyFool, it's on purpose :)
[11:58] <harold> Anyone know how to switch to private chat in irssi?
[11:59] <znh> harold: yeah, change with /window <id>
[11:59] <Seveas>  /msg who-you-want-to-talk-to your text
[11:59] <znh> Seveas: that lenght for nicknames aren't allowed
[11:59] <jtgameover> Cayne1, sorry about that
[11:59] <Seveas> znh, nope :)
[11:59] <jtgameover> znh, what was the secret
[11:59] <Seveas> max length is 16 on freenode :)
[12:00] <znh> then it's five characters above the allowed
[12:00] <znh> (whocares)
[12:01] <Seveas> *g*\
[12:01] <jtgameover> znh, how do you easily change the icons
[12:01] <jtgameover> in rox?
[12:01] <znh> jtgameover: I don't know, I ment with "I rox", something like yeah, I do rock :-)
[12:02] <znh> Seveas: you've seen !gnome :-P?
[12:02] <jtgameover> oh lol
[12:02] <jtgameover> !gnome
[12:02] <ubotu> hmm... gnome is terrible
[12:02] <xf_> yo, can one run a stock standard 2.6.12 kernel on hoary without problems (as in, no custom patches needed)?
[12:02] <jtgameover> !kde
[12:02] <HappyFool> heh
[12:03] <Seveas> !gnome
[12:03] <starfishy> xf: it does work
[12:03] <Seveas> who added that?
[12:03] <starfishy> but some devices need extra patches, among others some wireless network cards
[12:03] <xf_> right, what devices?
[12:03] <xf_> don't care about the wifi devices
[12:03] <starfishy> i just found out the hard way, that the ipw2100 driver doesn't compile with gcc4.0
[12:03] <starfishy> then you should be ok
[12:03] <xf_> things like udev/devfs are already in the kernel?
[12:03] <xf_> ah, right
[12:04] <xf_> is there a list somewhere of the patches applied against ubuntu kernels?
[12:04] <highvoltage> ipx2x00 are full of crap.
[12:04] <xf_> the source packages aren't terribly self explanatory unless i want to spend hours wading through code
[12:04] <Seveas> znh, the bot is not to be played with
[12:05] <starfishy> i agree, but they are still better than no WiFi at all
[12:05] <highvoltage> Seveas: you sound like my mother
[12:05] <znh> Seveas: don't tell me :-)
[12:05] <znh> !tell Seveas about gnome
[12:06] <znh> highvoltage: has seveas such a high voice o_O
[12:09] <CiRkiT> when I try to launch firefox I get error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:09] <CiRkiT> I cant find the libgtk to apt-get
[12:09] <Amaranth> CiRkiT: breezy?
[12:09] <xf_> hmm, won't it require udev patches?
[12:10] <dazjorz> hello
[12:10] <dazjorz> erm
[12:10] <CiRkiT> Hmm?
[12:10] <LlukaX> hey all
[12:10] <CiRkiT> How can I install libgtk-x11 ?
[12:10] <LlukaX> has anyone had their system hang at boot at "starting hotplug subsystem" >
[12:11] <dazjorz> i'm getting the error "Invalid Release file: No entry for Main/~Release/Packages
[12:11] <dazjorz> "
[12:11] <dazjorz> !tell dazjorz about releasefile
[12:11] <dazjorz> !tell dazjorz about release
[12:12] <dazjorz> darn
[12:12] <dazjorz> someoen
[12:12] <dazjorz> Seveas ?
[12:12] <dazjorz> are you here ?
[12:14] <dazjorz> Comon
[12:14] <Seveas> dazjorz, did you create your own repository?
[12:15] <dazjorz> Seveas: Not that I know...
[12:15] <dazjorz> Seveas: I just chose the Dutch installation server... nl.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <PM-aSeepin> ChurcH_of_FoamY:  i fixed the permissions on the repository.. everything under http://www.daede.com/foamy is now readable.. remember im only keeping the episodes online for 24 hours
[12:16] <dazjorz> Seveas: Private ?
[12:16] <Seveas> dazjorz, that actuallty is the same as the standard server :)
[12:16] <Seveas> dazjorz, ok
[12:17] <jtgameover> how do you enable keyboard shortcuts in general?
[12:17] <jtgameover> rox says something about using an XSettings manager, i.e. gnome-settings-daemon
[12:17] <jtgameover> which i already use
[12:17] <synnfest> I'm feeling more and more like I should've stayed with XP everytime I ask this (this makes 4 times in 24 hours in this chat alone), but does anyone know why firefox and epiphany lock up for no reason?
[12:17] <jtgameover> but i would like to enable keyboard shortcuts in general?
[12:17] <dazjorz> Seveas: Look at private plz
[12:18] <jtgameover> synnfest, what's the problem?
[12:18] <jtgameover> how does it "lock up:
[12:18] <Seveas> dazjorz, please have some patience :)
[12:18] <nariman> how do i install codes that work with "totem media player"?
[12:18] <jtgameover> !media
[12:18] <ubotu> No idea, jtgameover
[12:18] <jtgameover> !restrictedformats
[12:18] <ubotu> restrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[12:18] <jtgameover> nariman, go there
[12:19] <anacron> can someone help me install wlan drivers via ssh or something, i can't get it work, if i modprobe ndiswrapper i get two errors and i can't get madwifi work either
[12:20] <jfk303> what browser is the least demanding on system resources
[12:20] <sJaM> lynx, jfk303
[12:21] <jfk303> sJaM, is that text based?
[12:21] <sJaM> jip
[12:21] <Madpilot> !chthulhu
[12:21] <ubotu> Madpilot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:22] <tiago> hi every one
[12:22] <Madpilot> cthulhu
[12:22] <Madpilot> !cthulhu
[12:22] <ubotu> Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn, madpilot!
[12:22] <tiago> i made a big boo boo and need some profesional help
[12:22] <starfishy> what did you do?
[12:22] <Madpilot> tiago: ask away
[12:22] <starfishy> rm -rf /    ?
[12:22] <tiago> well i was running xp and ubuntu as a dual boot
[12:23] <PM-aSeepin> yeah it sucks when that happens
[12:23] <tiago> and it was using grub to manage my partition
[12:23] <Madpilot> starfishy: that doesn't actually work, except to screw up /home/$user  ;)
[12:23] <tiago> then i instaled windows vista beta 1
[12:23] <PM-aSeepin> Madpilot:  it does too work (if you're root)
[12:23] <PM-aSeepin> tiago:  pir8
[12:23] <PM-aSeepin> :>
[12:23] <tiago> xD
[12:23] <Madpilot> PM-aSeepin: sure, of if you append "sudo", but in either case you deserve it!
[12:24] <starfishy> madpilot: try it as root
[12:24] <tiago> any way it stoped grbu from being my boot loader
[12:24] <starfishy> or even better
[12:24] <PM-aSeepin> tiago:  here's what you do
[12:24] <Madpilot> I never log in as root. there is no root account on this machine....
[12:24] <PM-aSeepin> put in the install cd
[12:24] <PM-aSeepin> reboot
[12:25] <starfishy> i never log in as root but there is a root account on my machine
[12:25] <anacron> Madpilot: or is it that you don't know the password for it and use sudo instead
[12:25] <starfishy> and i daresay unless you deleted it on purpose there is one on your machine too
[12:25] <PM-aSeepin> at the boot: prompt, type: linux init=/bin/bash
[12:25] <starfishy> which would break a lot of things
[12:25] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- will this work with Vista Beta? I assume so
[12:25] <PM-aSeepin> that will drop you into a root shell
[12:25] <PM-aSeepin> Madpilot:  yes, it will\
[12:26] <PM-aSeepin> do what he just said
[12:26] <tiago> thanx guys
[12:26] <anacron> where can i paste my ndiswrapper error?
[12:26] <tiago> i did some thing bad though
[12:26] <Madpilot> !paste
[12:26] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:26] <tiago> i used partition magic to set my root partition as the one to boot from... now it says no os
[12:27] <tiago> wont even let me use windows
[12:27] <tiago> will this fix that too?
[12:27] <starfishy> that doesnt surprise me
[12:27] <dazjorz> [12:27] <tiago> yes... i have been a bad little n00b
[12:27] <starfishy> you need to have a boot manager either in your MBR or in the root partition
[12:27] <starfishy> there is no other way
[12:28] <PM-aSeepin> bed
[12:28] <PM-aSeepin> now
[12:28] <PM-aSeepin> g'nite
[12:28] <dazjorz> goodnight
[12:28] <PM-aSeepin> (fsckers)
[12:28] <tiago> thanx mate... goodnight
[12:28] <starfishy> if you reinstall your boot manager you will be able to boot windows too
[12:28] <tiago> why doess windows hate linux so much it has to do this?
[12:29] <tiago> why does it allways have to be linux job to keep the peace?
[12:29] <som1> i got the nvidia-glx thingie, edited xorg.conf (yes, just like the readme said, tripple checked) and added it to /etc/modules. i cant start opengl and it worked before. any reason why?
[12:29] <starfishy> gates hates everyone
[12:29] <PM-aSeepin> it doesnt.... it just doesnt take into account the possibility for a non-ms os ony our system
[12:29] <starfishy> his revenge for being picked upon as a nerd in highschool
[12:29] <tiago> but his gotten laid now... cant he just let al that hatred go?
[12:30] <starfishy> windows doesn't take into account anything you don't pay Microsoft for
[12:30] <PM-aSeepin> exactly
[12:30] <dazjorz> [12:30] <som1> erm.. he's doing whatever a giant company would do when it sees a threat
[12:30] <Seveas> dazjorz, stop shouting...
[12:30] <dazjorz> Seveas: Sorry but I need some attention for that
[12:30] <som1> do i need to add 'glx' on /etc/modules?
[12:30] <starfishy> well, a really smart company would at least make it look as if they are cooperating
[12:30] <som1> hint it worked before .. ?
[12:31] <PM-aSeepin> no they wouldnt
[12:31] <tiago> one would hope so
[12:31] <anacron> can you guys help with wlan? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1017
[12:31] <starfishy> Microsoft isnt that big because they are smart, but because they were in the right place in the right time
[12:31] <PM-aSeepin> name one really smart company in history that did that and stayed on top
[12:31] <som1> enough fighting as if u understand microsoft tactics
[12:31] <som1> starfishy its big because they were using the right tactic, until now
[12:31] <Seveas> tiago,PM-aSeepin: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:31] <som1> look at every big company
[12:31] <som1> and find out how it became big
[12:31] <som1> of course they were at the right place, wouldve gotten no where
[12:31] <PM-aSeepin> pfffffffffft. im goin to bed
[12:31] <som1> but they keep up with that
[12:32] <tiago> Seveas, what did i do wrong?
[12:33] <starfishy> i better go to bed
[12:33] <starfishy> nite everyone
[12:34] <dazjorz> goodnight
[12:34] <anacron> help with the wlan? anyone?
[12:34] <tiago> good night starfishy
[12:34] <ilba7r> anacron what is your prob
[12:34] <anacron> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1017
[12:34] <dazjorz> [12:36] <ilba7r> anacron did you uninstall the old ndiswrapper
[12:36] <som1> do i need to add glx on /etc/moduels?
[12:36] <nariman> is there a way to "see" ntfs partitions?
[12:36] <anacron> ilba7r: what do you mean by that?
[12:36] <som1> nariman mount -t ntfs
[12:36] <dazjorz> +o(
[12:36] <som1> or mount_ntfs
[12:36] <nariman> ok, thanls
[12:36] <ilba7r> anacron you might have it already installed and configured wait i will give you a link to a howto
[12:37] <nariman> soml, where does it pop up after the command?
[12:37] <jtgameover> does anyone here use rox-filer?
[12:39] <asfra> hi, can anybody tell me how to shift between kde and gnome? thanks
[12:39] <ilba7r> anacron what is your output when you type ndiswrapper -l
[12:39] <sinferno> does bzip usually take a really long time to unzip files
[12:39] <sinferno> or bunzip2 i should say
[12:39] <tiago> excuse me guys... i have been trying to follow that guide for recovering... and i have run into a problem
[12:40] <dazjorz> sinferno: That depends on the archive ^^
[12:40] <deFrysk> asfra, coose kde or gnome with kdm/gdm
[12:40] <raven3x7> about k3b anyone?
[12:40] <deFrysk> choose#
[12:40] <sinferno> dazjorz, its like 300 megs and its taking forever
[12:40] <dazjorz> sinferno: Yes, thats normal.
[12:40] <sinferno> dazjorz, i couldnt extract with file roller thing so i tired bunzip2 from terminal
[12:40] <ilba7r> asfara that in the login in screen under session
[12:40] <tiago> my windows partition is set as hidden ntfs partition
[12:40] <som1> dazjorz repeats? or once
[12:40] <sinferno> dazjorz, i like went and made a sandwich and it was still extracting
[12:40] <Madpilot> dazjorz: spamming the group with requests to help isn't likely to work...
[12:40] <Sconk> okay i got a server remote hosted whits have installed Fedora Core 4 is there a way to remote reinstall it whit ubuntu?
[12:40] <asfra> ok, thanks guys
[12:41] <dazjorz> som1: Huh ?
[12:41] <som1> never mind
[12:41] <dazjorz>    yea guys sorry but if nobodies gonna answer ??
[12:41] <dazjorz> nobody's**
[12:41] <Sconk> and what version is the stabel?
[12:42] <li> maman
[12:42] <som1> i have installed nvidia-glx, edited the xorg.conf file, edited /etc/modules, i even rebooted since then and i cant start opengl
[12:42] <Seveas> dazjorz, mailing lists, forums.....
[12:42] <Madpilot> dazjorz: try again in a couple of hours. trying every two minutes isn't going to work...
[12:42] <dazjorz> Seveas: Did that already.
[12:42] <Seveas> dazjorz, google, wiki...
[12:43] <dazjorz> Madpilot: I just need to know what could be the segmentation fault. I think its has not much to do with the executable itself, since it can start, give a screen, but once it starts loading modules...
[12:43] <dazjorz> there must be something wrong with one of the modules, i wanted to ask what could be wrong
[12:43] <li> j'ai envie de vomir
[12:43] <Snippy> hello everyone
[12:43] <dazjorz> they are .so files
[12:44] <dazjorz> i compiled only 2 myself
[12:44] <dazjorz> so,...
[12:44] <ilba7r> anacron if you are here here is a thread to uninstall the ndiswrapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=bcm
[12:44] <tiago> hello... can i get some assitance please?
[12:44] <li> yes
[12:44] <Seveas> tiago, sure, with what?
[12:45] <Snippy> tiago, just ask your question :)
[12:45] <crank> hi
[12:45] <tiago> im trying to fix my grub boot loader
[12:45] <ilba7r> anacron and here is a thread on how to install ndiswrapper https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[12:45] <anacron> ilba7r: ndidwrapper -l = ntedlwl
[12:45] <tiago> im running a live cd right now
[12:45] <tiago> its telling me to mout my / and /boot... but i dont have a /boot i dont think
[12:46] <Seveas> tiago, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:46] <Seveas> if you have no separate /boot partition, you can safely skip that step
[12:46] <crank> how do i install a speedtouch modem correctly... i tried this but it didn't work: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[12:46] <tiago> thats what im reading Seveas
[12:46] <waxhead> hi everyone
[12:46] <crank> hi
[12:46] <Seveas> then skip the step that tells you to mount /boot :)
[12:47] <tiago> thanx
[12:48] <crank> can someone tell me how to open root
[12:48] <crank> pls
[12:48] <Seveas> be a bit more specific
[12:48] <Seveas> there is no such thing as 'opening root'
[12:49] <crank> well let me explain, i have an alcatel speedtouch modem, and ubuntu can't find that
[12:49] <crank> i need to install drivers
[12:50] <crank> i tried this: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[12:50] <Seveas> you use sudo to get root privileges
[12:50] <Seveas> sudo -i goves you a root shell
[12:50] <crank> k
[12:51] <crank> but i get something about gethostbyname() not working (i don't remember if it's right)
[12:51] <Seveas> hmm, then your /etc/hosts is probably bad
[12:52] <crank> yeh i know
[12:52] <Seveas> can you paste that file on the pastebin please
[12:52] <sinferno> ok so i cant install heroes cause i dont have root in the /user/local so i run the install as root, do i have to run the game as root every time now in order to keep my settings?
[12:52] <Snippy> I've got a problem.. with sound again.. when I play a mp3.. the sound is just fine how it should be.. but some other sounds like the gnome desktop sounds are choppy somehow, how can I fix this ?
[12:52] <sinferno> i tried to chown the /usr/local/games/Heroes III folder
[12:52] <sinferno> but it still says needs 5mb of space lol
[12:53] <crank> Seveas i can't, i have to swith between ubuntu and windows all the time to connect to the internet... (partitions ;))
[12:53] <Seveas> there is an ext3 reader for windows :)
[12:54] <crank> the file isn't changed, it's still the same from installing ubuntu
[12:55] <Seveas> yeah, but i've seen it being mysteriously wrong for several people already
[12:55] <crank> what should i kinda look like
[12:55] <Seveas> there should be a line with 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain your_hostname
[12:55] <Seveas> where your_hostname is of course your actual hostname :)
[12:56] <Seveas> if the your-hostname bit is missing, sudo will b0rk
[12:56] <Seveas> and somehow it is missing sometimes
[12:56] <crank> it isn't there as far as i remember
[12:56] <aly> bjr!on parle francais ici?
[12:56] <crank> how can i edit the file?
[12:57] <tiago> Seveas,  im stuck again
[12:57] <crank> or replace it...
[12:58] <Madpilot> !fr
[12:58] <ubotu> fr is probably Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:58] <endee> who can help me with installing alsa drivers ? i'm stuck with it
[12:59] <Seveas> crank, boot into recovey mode and edit it there
[12:59] <crank> ow k thx
[12:59] <crank> i'll try l8er, g2g to work
[01:00] <Kev0r> Seveas: i reprogrammed g-v-m to give me choices when plugging in an usb stick :P
[01:00] <Raptoid> selamlar..
[01:01] <Seveas> Kev0r, nice
[01:01] <tiago> Seveas, if i type /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda in terminal will it reinstal grub?
[01:01] <Kev0r> thanks :) and i removed the options for DIGICAM
[01:01] <Seveas> Kev0r, write your tricks down on the wiki so others can benefit from them too :)
[01:01] <Kev0r> hmm, ok url?
[01:01] <Seveas> tiago, it just might do that :)
[01:01] <tiago> becouse grub is still in /boot/grub/
[01:01] <Seveas> Kev0r, wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <tiago> and its still configured corectly
[01:01] <tiago> what should i do?
[01:02] <tiago> i just want to tell my computer to use grub as my boot manager i dont realy want to reinstall it
[01:03] <dazjorz> jesus
[01:03] <pfp> that basically means reinstalling grub, tiago :)
[01:03] <dazjorz> someone has a good PlayStation 2 emulator for me ?
[01:03] <tiago> but then dont i have to manual configure it?
[01:04] <pfp> well, reinstalling to the bootsector, not reinstalling with apt etc
[01:04] <tiago> grubs allreayd installed its just windows made its crappy bootloader defult... isent there an easyer way to do this?
[01:04] <snippy_> I've got a problem.. with sound again.. when I play a mp3.. the sound is just fine how it should be.. but some other sounds like the gnome desktop sounds are choppy somehow, how can I fix this ?
[01:05] <mind> dazjorz, there is no good ps2 emulator out there.. for a reason :)
[01:05] <tiago> root@mepis1:/ # /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[01:05] <tiago> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:06] <PuGz> hey guys... i have just switch to ubuntu on my ibm thinkpad laptop
[01:06] <PuGz> i have used ubuntu before
[01:06] <PuGz> i am using breezy
[01:06] <dazjorz> mind: A reason ?
[01:06] <omeg> PuGz: I thought Breezy was unstable
[01:07] <mind> yes, its too new.. it takes time to develop an emulator that can play commercial games. the second reason, why emulate something that can still be bought
[01:07] <PuGz> i am trying to get 3 things working - ATI fglrx drivers for graphics acceleration, atheros ath_pci drivers for my wireless, and for some reason, ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt take me to the consoles...
[01:07] <omeg> mind: because then you don't have to buy it? :p
[01:07] <PuGz> omeg, it is
[01:07] <dazjorz> mind: Have you tried pcsx2
[01:07] <dazjorz> I agree, omeg
[01:07] <mind> yes
[01:07] <tiago> im going to cry... this is so confusing... how do i know which hard drive is hda3?
[01:07] <omeg> Also, the PS2 can't be properly emulated because it's apparently got one of the most insane architectures ever.
[01:07] <dazjorz> mind: Does it start for you ?
[01:08] <omeg> (can't be properly emulated yet)
[01:08] <tiago> is it hd0,3?
[01:08] <HappyFool> tiago: no, probably hd0,2
[01:08] <pfp> tiago: it's hd0,2
[01:08] <PuGz> can anyone help with any of those?
[01:08] <PuGz> 1st off... why does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[01:08] <dazjorz> mind: I need the plugins files and the pcsx2 executable, because in one of these files is a segmentation fault here
[01:08] <PuGz> (ie take me to a 1st console)
[01:08] <HappyFool> PuGz: if you're using breezy, not many of us will be able to help
[01:09] <PuGz> oh... so it is very recommended that you use hoary for now?
[01:09] <HappyFool> PuGz: indeed
[01:09] <PuGz> ok... will do!
[01:09] <deFrysk> PuGz, soo /topic
[01:09] <HappyFool> PuGz: breezy is still pre-release
[01:09] <deFrysk> see*
[01:09] <pfp> tiago: i've used the grub shell to re-install grub... ie, start it with "sudo grub", then enter a few commands
[01:09] <PuGz> i'll be back in 30 mins if its not working
[01:09] <snippy_> when will ot come out? oct ?
[01:09] <omeg> I sure hope Breezy will get a proper installation interface...
[01:09] <PuGz> is there any way i can downgrade to hoary?
[01:09] <HappyFool> yes, october
[01:09] <snippy_> I hope they fix the sound issues o_O
[01:10] <PuGz> does hoary have openoffice.org 2?
[01:10] <deFrysk> october and april are always the releasemonths
[01:10] <PuGz> beta?
[01:10] <tiglionabbit> heeey guys, I just wrote something, tell me what you think.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone
[01:10] <omeg> And add a few more options to the screen resolution dialog. Like BPP, and a button to test the set-up with, just in case you end up with a garbled screen.
[01:10] <tiago> ok guys let me reboot my pc and ill be back if every thing was succesful t thank you all
[01:10] <Amaranth> PuGz: and older version of the OOo2 betas, yeah
[01:10] <PuGz> cool
[01:10] <PuGz> cyas
[01:11] <mind> dazjorz, look at http://www.pcsx2.net/compatibility.php and decide for yourself wether you want to go through that trouble
[01:11] <omeg> Another thing I'm hoping for in Breezy (kind of obscure) is a function to make screensavers not use more than n amount of CPU power.
[01:11] <omeg> Random screensavers is neat, but if it happens to pick one that puts my laptop in 100% cpu usage, it'll start to make a lot of noise.
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> omeg: perhaps you must sift through them all and find the right ones
[01:12] <deFrysk> omeg, just turn of the resource using screensavers
[01:12] <omeg> "turn off the resource using screensavers" ??
[01:12] <deFrysk> yes
[01:12] <omeg> what do you mean by that?
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> any comments on my flashplayer thingamabob?
[01:12] <mind> omeg, start xscreensaver with "nice" and set the cpu scaling daemon to ignore "niceified" processes
[01:13] <snippy_> hey what FONT are you guys using in IRC ?
[01:13] <omeg> that doesn't sound like something a non-hacker can do
[01:13] <ilba7r> just a quick question is there an application like kdevelop under gnome?
[01:13] <mind> omeg, that sounds like reading, not like hacking
[01:13] <tiglionabbit> snippy_: what?  Font?  hmm?
[01:13] <moshe> hello
[01:14] <omeg> I think one of the things that's really important for Ubuntu to become a serious desktop alternative is making the entire system so that you don't regularly have to do hacker stuff.
[01:14] <moshe> which file does ubuntu log ssh logins to?
[01:14] <snippy_> I use monospace too
[01:14] <snippy_> but it has a bad quality somehow
[01:14] <pfp> omeg: system/preferences/screensaver lets you choose the random screensavers
[01:14] <HappyFool> omeg: how about the 'blank' screensaver then? That's pretty easy
[01:14] <Amaranth> omeg: that's always a goal
[01:14] <omeg> Yeah, sure
[01:14] <Amaranth> omeg: If you have to open a terminal, Ubuntu has failed.
[01:14] <deFrysk> turn screessaver of is also a nice option
[01:15] <omeg> I wouldn't go as far as to say that, Amaranth.
[01:15] <deFrysk> snippy_, then try another
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> that's what some people think.  I personally love the teminal.  It's a lot better than windows' terminal
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> and there are tons of applications written to run completely in it
[01:15] <omeg> I mean, terminals should always stay just in case, but it should be reduced to an absolute minimum and only in case something goes horribly wrong, or you ARE a hacker who likes to tweak stuff.
[01:15] <snippy_> deFrysk, I did.. but I cant find a good one
[01:15] <Amaranth> omeg, tiglionabbit: I said 'have' to. It's fine if opening a terminal is more convienent (sp?) for you.
[01:15] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: interesting. i don't think i'm going to download and compile wine, but if I had to view a lot of flash, i'd consider it
[01:16] <snippy_> isnt there Arial ? lol
[01:16] <Amaranth> omeg, tiglionabbit: But if the terminal is the _only_ way you can do something, something is broken.
[01:16] <omeg> Yeah.
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: thanks.  I use apt to compile wine though, so it's not too difficult
[01:16] <dazjorz>  GODDDAMMIt
[01:16] <deFrysk> snippy_, *I always liked comic sans ms
[01:16] <omeg> I agree with that.
[01:16] <dazjorz> sorry
[01:16] <dazjorz> this is now like the 10th time i'm trying to install Ubuntu
[01:16] <dazjorz> and EVERY TIME I GET ERROR THIS ERROR THAT
[01:16] <dazjorz> argggh
[01:16] <snippy_> deFrysk, I dont like this one
[01:16] <omeg> Amaranth: I think it was pretty strange when someone had to walk me through editing text files and using apt-get just so I could install video codecs.
[01:16] <HappyFool> everytime your caps lock gets stuck, eh ?
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: oops, I'm misleading, aren't I?  That one command will do all of the downloading and compiling for you.  I'll edit that
[01:17] <Zalbor> I'm currently using Fedora. I want to try Ubuntu and tried the DVD's live. I need to make the modem initialize with the ATX3 command, but I can't find out how to.
[01:17] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Heya
[01:17] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I need your help again
[01:17] <omeg> But I'm fine with it right now since Ubuntu is still not in final stages yet.
[01:17] <HappyFool> dazjorz: hi
[01:17] <HappyFool> dazjorz: what's the problem?
[01:17] <Amaranth> omeg: Of course you had to do a lot of work, you were doing something illegal.
[01:17] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Ubuntu fails installing again on the server
[01:17] <dazjorz> arrrgh
[01:17] <omeg> Argh, codecs are considered illegal now?
[01:17] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Error this error that, blabla
[01:17] <omeg> XviD and x264 are open source...
[01:18] <snippy_> I've got a problem.. with sound again.. when I play a mp3.. the sound is just fine how it should be.. but some other sounds like the gnome desktop sounds are choppy somehow, how can I fix this ?
[01:18] <HappyFool> dazjorz: ok, how are you installing? and on what hardware?
[01:18] <dazjorz> HappyFool: When I start the installation of Ubuntu I have to do: cd /usr/bin && ln -s udpkg dpkg
[01:18] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Otherwise it fails installing.
[01:18] <Amaranth> omeg: aside from patent issues those are fine
[01:18] <HappyFool> dazjorz: err
[01:18] <Amaranth> omeg: but w32codecs and such are so illegal it's sad
[01:18] <HappyFool> dazjorz: where do you do that?
[01:19] <Frafra> excuseme, are the backports for amd64 ufficial?
[01:19] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Now when I'm installing the kernel, it fails with an error and screen 3 says that restricted-modules failed installing.
[01:19] <omeg> :(
[01:19] <dazjorz> HappyFool: On tty2
[01:19] <Zalbor> How can I make the modem connection initialize with ATX3?
[01:19] <omeg> That's a major setback.
[01:19] <HappyFool> dazjorz: where did you get that info from?
[01:19] <omeg> But still, then I don't see a reason to not have XviD and x264 in Synaptic.
[01:19] <bateau> how do i mount networkdrives?
[01:19] <HappyFool> dazjorz: please tell me what your hardware is
[01:19] <dazjorz> HappyFool: What info? That command? Myself
[01:19] <omeg> And doesn't the XviD fourcc allow DivX decompression?
[01:19] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Pentium MMX, 128 MB RAM, 2 harddrives
[01:20] <dazjorz> HappyFool: 1 is /dev/hda, 6 GB, 2 partitions, 1: /boot, 2: not mounted (backup)
[01:20] <Juhaz> omeg, mpeg4 is patent ridden, not legally safe in "land of the free"
[01:20] <HappyFool> dazjorz: you're using the normal hoary install cd?
[01:20] <michounet> hello all
[01:20] <dazjorz> HappyFool: 2 is /dev/hde (behind controller), 40 GB, 2 partitions, 1: /, 2: swap
[01:20] <Amaranth> omeg: by default only main and restricted are turned on because universe and multiverse 1) have patent issues and 2) aren't supported
[01:20] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Yes.
[01:20] <Zalbor> Can anyone tell me how to do what I asked?
[01:21] <michounet> i have a big problem with my tuner tv card, i have an screen but not sound :( help me please!! my card is an saa7134
[01:21] <omeg> Yeah, but still... DivX, XviD and x264 can all be downloaded for free, legally. Including them by default would be easy for people using Ubuntu. People who want to watch videos but aren't able to edit text files and update their packages.
[01:21] <michounet> (i'm french, sorry for my english :))
[01:22] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I'm using the hoary installation CD that i ordered. I've got 15 cd's, they give the same error.
[01:22] <dazjorz> michounet: je parle un peu de francais ^^
[01:22] <HappyFool> dazjorz: do you have any idea what's causing the problem?
[01:22] <Random_Sindrom> je auussi
[01:22] <_tiago> hey guys, listen thanks for the help with the grub problem
[01:22] <michounet> :d
[01:22] <michounet> oh yeahhh
[01:22] <Zalbor> How can I make the modem connection initialize with ATX3?
[01:22] <_tiago> unfortunatly its not the end of my problems
[01:22] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I think its the CD-ROM drive, but i'm not sure. When I try to install with net_retriever, it fails too.
[01:23] <Random_Sindrom> michounet: try killing esd
[01:23] <dazjorz> Random_Sindrom: moi aussi :p
[01:23] <michounet> i' had try eyt
[01:23] <michounet> but ,ot...
[01:23] <michounet> not*
[01:23] <HappyFool> dazjorz: have you tried booting with the live cd? Just to check if ubuntu can see all your hardware (e.g., your ide controller)
[01:23] <Random_Sindrom> dazjorz: ,o)
[01:23] <_tiago> my windows partition is now set to hiden for some reason and wont boot...
[01:23] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Gonna try now :)
[01:24] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Standby. Be right back.
[01:24] <Zalbor> Does no one know (which I think is unlikely) or am I being ignored?
[01:24] <HappyFool> Zalbor: i'm not sure, but i see a 'modeminit' entry in my /etc/chatscripts files
[01:25] <HappyFool> Zalbor: maybe you can add 'ATX3' there; be sure to backup whatever file you change first
[01:25] <_tiago> Zalbor: im getting the same feeling as you
[01:25] <LlukaX> hey can someone help me, my box wont recognize any usb
[01:25] <LlukaX> it also locks up at boot "starting hotplug subsystem"
[01:25] <HappyFool> _tiago: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to tell it about the windows partition
[01:25] <engie> Hi. Is there a breezy install CD yet?
[01:25] <Zalbor> I think I have to tamper with a file of PPPD
[01:25] <HappyFool> _tiago: however, i thought ubuntu had a 'update-grub' script which would do that for you
[01:26] <_tiago> grubs working fine now
[01:26] <HappyFool> Zalbor: i think pppd uses chat for dialing; i may be wrong
[01:26] <_tiago> the thing is that widnows isent
[01:26] <HappyFool> _tiago: yes, but you need to tell grub about windows
[01:26] <michounet> nobody has an idee for my problem?
[01:26] <Zalbor> I guess I'll try that... Thanks for now
[01:26] <dazjorz> HappyFool: By the way, I need to use modprobe 3c509 at boot, otherwise it will not recognise my network card. Is that a problem ?
[01:27] <_tiago> grub manages to get the windows loading screenup... but then windows brings up an error
[01:27] <Random_Sindrom> Llukax: you have to add some line to a file
[01:27] <Random_Sindrom> in on the hoary guide
[01:27] <_tiago> is there any way to change the nfts status so its not hidden ntfs partition?
[01:27] <LlukaX> hmm?
[01:27] <LlukaX> where is the hoary guide?
[01:28] <teprrr> is X still broken in breezy?
[01:28] <Seveas> yes
[01:28] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Private OK ?
[01:28] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i don't know
[01:28] <teprrr> okay
[01:28] <Seveas> LlukaX, wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <HappyFool> dazjorz: err, i guess
[01:28] <_tiago> i booted into windows vista and i cant see my windows xp partition... its hiding
[01:28] <HappyFool> dazjorz: this problem sounds over my head, though, so it might be better to keep things here
[01:29] <_tiago> though i can still access it in linux
[01:29] <LlukaX> :/
[01:29] <Random_Sindrom> LlukaX: http://ubuntuguide.org
[01:29] <LlukaX> ah
[01:29] <LlukaX> thanx
[01:29] <_tiago> lol kinda ironic... linux can so a ntfs partition thats hidden to another windows os
[01:29] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[01:29] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[01:29] <Seveas> Random_Sindrom, LlukaX ^--
[01:29] <_tiago> so does any one think they can help me?
[01:30] <samu> is it possible to listen to podcasts through ubuntu somehow?
[01:30] <_tiago> im sure it was partition magic that coused this problem... i might need to install partition magic under windows vista to try and solve it... unless there is a way under linux
[01:30] <LlukaX> ?
[01:30] <concept10> What is this guy talking about windows vista for?
[01:31] <_tiago> i cant view my xp partition under vista...
[01:31] <Seveas> !vista
[01:31] <ubotu> methinks vista is Viruses, Insecurities, Trojans, Spyware, Adware
[01:31] <_tiago> lol
[01:31] <LlukaX> ok so ium adding a line to what?
[01:31] <Amaranth> ubotu: no, vista is the next version of windows
[01:31] <ubotu> Amaranth: okay
[01:31] <Seveas> _tiago, is the partition type set to ntfs?
[01:31] <Amaranth> ubotu: lock vista
[01:31] <ubotu> Amaranth: locking factoid vista
[01:31] <Kev0r> !vista
[01:31] <ubotu> vista is, like, the next version of windows
[01:31] <LlukaX> this guide mentions nothing about hotplug :(
[01:31] <_tiago> rofl
[01:32] <Seveas> _tiago, and didn't you hide it with grub?
[01:32] <dazjorz>  LOL :: Where to order Ubuntu CDs for absolutely FREE? :: @ ubuntuguide.org ==> For absolutely free ?!
[01:32] <_tiago> how can grub effect an ntfs partition in a another windows os if its only a boot loader?
[01:32] <traveller> what's a good tv app?
[01:33] <Kev0r> yes dazjorz i ordered 20
[01:33] <_tiago> grubs working fine now
[01:33] <dazjorz> KevOr: I mean
[01:33] <LlukaX> _tiago, it can make you lose your ntldr
[01:33] <dazjorz> KevOr: I did too, but i mean look at the sentance
[01:33] <_tiago> i think it was when i used partition magic under windows to set my ext3 root parition as the boot partition for my pc that it hid C: in the process
[01:33] <dazjorz>    "For absolutely free"
[01:34] <dazjorz> its either "Absolutely free" or "For absolutely nothing"
[01:34] <_tiago> oh so is there any way to unhide it now?
[01:34] <Kev0r> :/
[01:34] <_tiago> i can view it in linux
[01:34] <_tiago> its mounted
[01:34] <Seveas> _tiago, remove the hide commands from menu.lst :)
[01:34] <magneto> anyone familiar with emifreq-applet
[01:34] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Live system is booting, it prepared the session already
[01:34] <_tiago> where is that file located?
[01:34] <equex> anyone else having problem with the OS freezing ? using the 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel
[01:35] <equex> the os freezes about once a day
[01:35] <concept10> _tiago, I hope youre not trolling to let everyone know you have Windows vista
[01:35] <equex> have to hard reboot
[01:35] <endee> endee
[01:35] <magneto> !emifreq
[01:35] <ubotu> Wish i knew, magneto
[01:35] <magneto> !emifreq-applet
[01:35] <ubotu> magneto: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:35] <_tiago> concept10: im not that sad and lacking a social life
[01:36] <concept10> _tiago, thanks.
[01:36] <_tiago> hundreds of thousends of people have windows vista... its no big deal... i found ubuntu more exciting
[01:36] <endee> is there a way to run CS:S on linux ?
[01:36] <_tiago> i just want to be able to use my windows xp again
[01:36] <_tiago> becouse i have home work on there
[01:36] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Hotplug takes a long time
[01:37] <_tiago> so... umm where is this file i must edit to unhide hda1?
[01:37] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i think your Pentium MMX is relatively low-spec
[01:37] <Random_Sindrom> LlukaX: edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[01:37] <Random_Sindrom> add the file that hotplug ask for at booting
[01:38] <dazjorz> HappyFool: But its not even working. I don't hear the harddisk nor the cdrom being used.
[01:38] <HappyFool> dazjorz: hmm
[01:38] <HappyFool> dazjorz: so it's frozen?
[01:39] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I can still type. But it appears its doing nothing.
[01:39] <anatole> re
[01:39] <anatole> xcompmgr is amazing
[01:39] <anatole> :)
[01:41] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i'm not sure what to suggest. You said earlier you suspected your cd-rom?
[01:41] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Yes, during the installation, it it read something from the cdrom, it failed.
[01:41] <_tiago> can some one plz tell me how to edit menu.lst?
[01:41] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Its going on now.
[01:41] <HappyFool> _tiago: 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:41] <_tiago> ty
[01:42] <dazjorz> _tiago: Or use vi
[01:42] <dazjorz> maybe
[01:42] <HappyFool> dazjorz: a Pentium MMX means about a 100MHz machine, right? i.e., fairly old?
[01:42] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Yes
[01:42] <_tiago> any thing else i can use to open it?
[01:42] <HappyFool> _tiago: gedit
[01:42] <petti> more like 150-233
[01:42] <_tiago> using gui perhaps?
[01:42] <nightswim> mmx goes upto 233
[01:42] <nightswim> and starts at 166
[01:42] <nightswim> perhaps even more than 233
[01:42] <HappyFool> _tiago: 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:43] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I have a black screen with a cursor now.
[01:43] <HappyFool> _tiago: editing that file is not a typical user activity
[01:43] <jade> anyone know how to apt-get mplayer? i want to play a .mov file
[01:43] <_tiago> im going to blow some thing up arnt i?
[01:44] <_tiago> if i edit that file will i be able to unhide the hda1 partition?
[01:44] <dazjorz> HappyFool: It seems to be frozen now.
[01:44] <HappyFool> _tiago: i have no idea
[01:44] <HappyFool> _tiago: it sounds like you should be asking windows vista experts these questions
[01:44] <HappyFool> dazjorz: can you test your cd-rom in anyway?
[01:44] <_tiago> its got nothing to do with vista... its got to do with xp
[01:45] <HappyFool> _tiago: ok, windows xp experts
[01:45] <_tiago> maybe even partition magic
[01:45] <Kev0r> didn't know this was #microsoft
[01:45] <_tiago> i think thats what done this in the first place
[01:45] <_tiago> hey thats mean
[01:45] <_tiago> im in ubuntu now arnt i?
[01:45] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Ok, its working now,
[01:45] <_tiago> thats the os that im running
[01:45] <dazjorz> HappyFool: X Server couldn't start
[01:45] <HappyFool> dazjorz: ok, but you've got a console?
[01:45] <_tiago> ironicly its working problem free unlike windows
[01:45] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Some file input/output error in FileToMem or something
[01:45] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Lets see...
[01:46] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Yes
[01:47] <jade> hmm aparently mplayer doesnt work on ubuntu?
[01:47] <HappyFool> jade: read the restrictedformats page on the wiki (see below):
[01:47] <HappyFool> !restricted
[01:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:47] <equex> i have it working jada
[01:47] <jade> all i wanna do is play a .mov file :)
[01:47] <petti> mplayer works just fine thanks
[01:48] <HappyFool> jade: that page will tell you how to install media players
[01:48] <jade> thanks HappyFool
[01:48] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I have a console, yes.
[01:48] <HappyFool> dazjorz: you managed to login?
[01:48] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I'm logged in as Ubuntu. How do I login as Root? What is the password ?
[01:49] <HappyFool> dazjorz: hmm. try logging in as 'root' with no password, or we can try 'sudo'
[01:49] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Or what is the password for sudo ?
[01:49] <HappyFool> dazjorz: probably blank
[01:49] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Root and no password doesnt work.
[01:49] <HappyFool> dazjorz: sudo and no password?
[01:49] <jade> dazjorz: sudo takes ur usernames pass word
[01:49] <HappyFool> jade: he's on the live cd
[01:49] <thenuke> HappyFool: logging in as a root without password X-D
[01:50] <jade> HappyFool: ahh k
[01:50] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Sudo doesnt want a password here
[01:50] <HappyFool> dazjorz: great
[01:50] <DVSoftware> dazjorz, i've typed sudo passwd root
[01:50] <DVSoftware> and defined root pass
[01:50] <HappyFool> dazjorz: let's try 'fdisk -l'
[01:50] <dazjorz> DVSoftware: Thanks, i'll try
[01:50] <HappyFool> dazjorz: err, 'sudo fdisk -l'
[01:50] <jade> ^^
[01:51] <HappyFool> dazjorz: that should list all partitions linux can find
[01:51] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Ok.
[01:51] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I'm on root now. I'll try
[01:51] <dazjorz> Oh wait
[01:51] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Is that i or L
[01:51] <HappyFool> dazjorz: my idea is to try to see if ubuntu can see /dev/hde
[01:51] <dazjorz> L
[01:51] <dazjorz> l / I
[01:51] <HappyFool> lowercase ell
[01:51] <dazjorz> Thanks
[01:51] <DVSoftware> L
[01:52] <dazjorz> Hmm Can I use SSH on live mode? Because its a lot of information
[01:52] <samu> so is it possible to listen to podcasts without iTunes?
[01:52] <HappyFool> dazjorz: just give me a rough idea
[01:53] <HappyFool> dazjorz: how many partitions, on what drives, etc.
[01:53] <dazjorz> HappyFool: It sees both harddisks with the correct partitions
[01:53] <HappyFool> dazjorz: ok
[01:53] <dazjorz> =)
[01:53] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i think we need some way to test your cd-rom
[01:53] <dazjorz> Ok.
[01:53] <HappyFool> dazjorz: but i'm not sure if we can eject the cd in live cd mode
[01:54] <dazjorz> I think so
[01:54] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I think so, the whole system is in RAM, i think
[01:54] <HappyFool> dazjorz: ok, what we can try is run an md5sum check on the ubuntu install cd
[01:54] <HappyFool> dazjorz: that should force your cd-rom to read the whole CD
[01:55] <dazjorz> HappyFool: OK, is there a md5sum file that checks the whole cd ?
[01:55] <HappyFool> dazjorz: yeah, in the cd's room
[01:55] <doodz> I have a problem with my external monitor.. its attached to my laptop and when im viewing a movie i can only see "video" on my laptop and on the external monitor its just black. Any ideas?
[01:55] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I'm gonna check it on the machine itself because I suspect the CD-ROM player.
[01:55] <HappyFool> dazjorz: yeah, that's what i meant
[01:55] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Root*
[01:56] <HappyFool> dazjorz: the command is 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt' -- yes, root, not room ;)
[01:56] <HappyFool> dazjorz: run that after mounting the cd
[01:57] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I mounted the CD and it says its empty....???!
[01:58] <HappyFool> dazjorz: hmm. You did issue a 'mount' command?
[01:58] <dazjorz> mkdir cdmount && mount /dev/cdrom cdmount && cd cdmount
[01:58] <dazjorz> ofcourse
[01:58] <dazjorz> I did dir and it was empty
[01:58] <dazjorz> ?!
[01:58] <dazjorz> I also did this
[01:58] <dazjorz> cd .. || umount cdmount || umount /dev/cdrom || mount /dev/cdrom cdmount || cd cdmount || dir
[01:58] <dazjorz> still empty
[01:59] <HappyFool> dazjorz: hmm
[01:59] <HappyFool> dazjorz: what does plain 'mount' say? Does it think /dev/cdrom is mounted?
[01:59] <HappyFool> dazjorz: and is /dev/cdrom correctly linked ? (to /dev/hdc, or maybe /dev/hdb) ?
[02:00] <dazjorz> HappyFool: it says nothing about /dev/cdrom, but it says that /dev/hdb is mounted to /cdmount which is correct because the CD player is connected as primary IDE slave
[02:00] <dazjorz> i thought...
[02:00] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i'm at a loss
[02:00] <dazjorz> me too
[02:01] <HappyFool> dazjorz: unless this is some livecd weirdness
[02:01] <dazjorz> maybe, it gave some strange errors
[02:02] <HappyFool> ah
[02:02] <dazjorz> at boot
[02:02] <petti> enabling speedstep makes nasty breaks in this laptop. It's a pain to type when it suddenly misses a few characters
[02:03] <dazjorz> HappyFool: If I run the installation on my own pc, it gives not any error, but on that PC, it gives an error about /usr/bin/dpkg that doesn't exist when installing the kernel.
[02:03] <dazjorz> Thats why I used ln -s udpkg dpkg
[02:03] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i don't follow 'installing the kernel' ?
[02:03] <HappyFool> dazjorz: you mean installing a custom kernel?
[02:03] <dazjorz> no
[02:04] <dazjorz> When the ubuntu installer does 'base ubuntu install', it installs some kernel too, linux-386 i thought
[02:04] <dazjorz> and it gives errors on that
[02:04] <HappyFool> dazjorz: sounds right
[02:04] <HappyFool> dazjorz: that is very suspicious
[02:04] <som1> hm.. i got ubuntu again, got the nvidia-glx package, edited the xorg.conf file, /etc/modules and i cant start opengl.. any idea why?
[02:05] <som1> when im not root - Error: Could not open /dev/nvidiactl because the permissions are too resticitive.  Please see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.. doc path is wrong, ive read it tho
[02:05] <dazjorz> after a while it also gives a lot of errors about the release file: Incorrect Release File: Blabla Binary~/Packages
[02:05] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i do not have a 'udpkg' file on my system (not that locate can find, anyway)
[02:05] <dazjorz> som1, what about: chmod 0777 /dev/nvidiactl ??
[02:05] <som1> ..when i do use root
[02:05] <HappyFool> dazjorz: was this a 'standard' install?
[02:06] <dazjorz> Ye
[02:06] <bateau> how do i mount networkdrives?
[02:06] <dazjorz> Yes*
[02:06] <som1> Sys_Erorr: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsysem
[02:06] <som1> subsystem
[02:06] <som1> :P
[02:06] <dazjorz> HappyFool: In /usr/bin I did ls after it gave the error about /usr/bin/dpkg missing
[02:06] <dazjorz> while the installation was running
[02:07] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I saw a udpkg and made a symlink, which worked.
[02:07] <dazjorz> The first time.
[02:07] <dazjorz> Ok I'm gonna do installation again and tell you exactly what I do okay ?
[02:07] <HappyFool> dazjorz: obviously such a hack should not be necessary
[02:07] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i had no such problems
[02:07] <broxtor> bateau: Have a look at ubuntuguide.org. It's explained in detail there.
[02:07] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i'm afraid i'm off now
[02:08] <som1> ..any ideas?
[02:08] <HappyFool> dazjorz: perhaps you should report this as a bug
[02:08] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I did
[02:08] <HappyFool> dazjorz: i can only imagine you have some very strange hardware
[02:08] <dazjorz> HappyFool: The only strange hardware I have is the controller.
[02:08] <zyros> d
[02:08] <dazjorz> HappyFool: I'll try to run the installer again. The only tricks I do are modprobe and symlink.
[02:09] <dazjorz> HappyFool: The first time I do base install it asks what kernel to install and the only choice is linux-386
[02:09] <dazjorz> The second time it asks between linux-386 and linux-image-386 and another one
[02:09] <zyros> hm
[02:09] <HappyFool> dazjorz: this is a 'server' install, i presume?
[02:09] <dazjorz> HappyFool: First time it was, but not anymore, no.
[02:09] <HappyFool> dazjorz: because i get asked no questions at all
[02:09] <dazjorz> HappyFool: its an `expert' install
[02:09] <HappyFool> dazjorz: well, other than username etc
[02:10] <HappyFool> dazjorz: ah.
[02:10] <dazjorz> HappyFool: But that is needed
[02:10] <wezzer-> quick question: How do I set up rule using iptables, to route every request at port 80 to port 8080 at interface eth1
[02:10] <wezzer-> ?
[02:10] <dazjorz> HappyFool: Because I need to install GRUB to the MBR of /dev/hda, or it won't boot with /dev/hde as root. Thats not possible in the normal setup.
[02:10] <lui> Hello everybody
[02:10] <lui> Hello Seveas
[02:10] <HappyFool> dazjorz: is it not possible to install /boot and / to /dev/hda, and later mount /home and maybe /usr and /var onto /dev/hde ?
[02:11] <dazjorz> HappyFool: No, I did that before, and ran out of disk space on one dir.
[02:11] <dazjorz> HappyFool: When I try to get diskspace from another partition to that dir, I lose files and the system doesnt work anymore
[02:12] <dazjorz> Not as it should, i mean.
[02:12] <dazjorz> I'll try to do a normal install, see what it does.
[02:12] <Stormx> Heya I'm awake again!
[02:12] <HappyFool> dazjorz: well, server install should only need 500MB, i think -- i'd do that, then rearrange partitions later
[02:12] <zyros> d
[02:13] <HappyFool> dazjorz: my impression is that /home, /var and /usr are the big space-takers
[02:13] <HappyFool> dazjorz: anyway, i really must be going. good luck.
[02:13] <Stormx> HappyFoo: Correct
[02:13] <dazjorz> Thanks
[02:14] <iddqd> i'm trying to play audio in xmms, but i only get feedback if i select esound. neither alsa nor oss work. i can't get audio in vlc either, any ideas how to fix this?
[02:14] <iddqd> my audio is onboard, dont know how to find out what chipset
[02:15] <lui> people, I'm trying to configure wxGTK-2.4.2 but the terminal puts me thins message: "configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH" what should I do?
[02:15] <Stormx> OK Now I have a question. Can you mount something twice. I currently have /dev/hdb1 mounted on /mnt/windows. Can I mount /dev/hdb1/Music on /home/barney/music/
[02:15] <BusMaster> lui, install gcc
[02:15] <Stormx> lui: You need a C-Compiler. gcc
[02:15] <BusMaster> lui, apt-get install build-essentials
[02:15] <Stormx> lui: You should also use synaptic and apt-get to download and install packages
[02:16] <Stormx> apt get install build-essentials
[02:16] <lui> ok people, thank you. I'll try now
[02:17] <Dolph> Does anybody here have Ubuntu for Mac?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> Dolph: sure. I run Ubuntuon an iBook G4
[02:18] <Stormx> Dolph: Its easy enough to do.
[02:18] <dazjorz> ee
[02:18] <Dolph> thoreauputic, ok two questions, 1. Does it run stable, as for i38x, and 2. I'm thinking about installing this on my iMac, but how the .will I get around the fact that it only has one mouse button?
[02:18] <dazjorz> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[02:19] <cafuego_> lui: There is a precompiled wxgtk 2.4 package
[02:19] <bimberi> dazjorz: build-essential (lose the s)
[02:19] <wibble> Dolph: I run Ubuntu on  Mac; I use a three-button usb mouse
[02:19] <thoreauputic> Dolph: 1) Stable - yes 2) Get yourself an USB 3button mouse
[02:19] <Stormx> Dolph: You not running a powerPC processer?
[02:19] <dazjorz> build-essential is already the newest version ^^
[02:19] <Dolph> Stormx, not sure, just got this imac, don't really know ANYTHING about macs
[02:20] <Stormx> Dolph: Hmmm
[02:20] <Dolph> Stormx, and being a seasoned linux (and unfortunately windows too) user, that MacOS is pissing me off
[02:20] <cafuego_> Dolph: a three button usb mouse is really very cheap. Just use one of those.
[02:20] <wibble> Dolph: it is stable and detected all the hardware fine
[02:20] <Dolph> let me see what this is, one sec
[02:20] <Stormx> Dolph: Find out your processer architecture.
[02:20] <iddqd> ok i have an nforce 2 ac97 audio controller; which doesnt work through alsa or oss
[02:20] <Dolph> 366 mhz PowerPC G3
[02:20] <iddqd> anybody else having this problem? will it be fixed if i update nforce drivers?
[02:21] <Dolph> Damn this is an old one isnt it?
[02:21] <cafuego_> Dolph: The 8600, G3, powerbook, iMacs and Mac Mini all work fine.
[02:21] <Stormx> Dolph: You need a PowerPC version of ubuntu
[02:21] <ags06> anyone know how to work IR to connect my phone
[02:21] <Dolph> Alright, does 366mhz on a mac equal 366mhz on an Intel-compatible processor?
[02:21] <cafuego_> Doplh: Ubuntu PPC will work 100% fine on that, it will detect and install all hardware.
[02:21] <Stormx> Dolph: Yeh, think so...
[02:21] <cafuego_> Dolph: No, on a G3 it'd be comparable to a P3/800 or somesuch.
[02:22] <Dolph> Oh well, guess it's a fine work computer :)
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Dolph: It will be quicker than those mhz suggest
[02:22] <lui> cafuego: I know but I'm trying to install lmule
[02:22] <cafuego_> Not for certain benchmarks, but certainly in day to day use.
[02:22] <apokryphos> is sudo {guiapp} potentially not that devastating in gnome, or something? :|
[02:22] <Dolph> thoreauputic, good
[02:22] <Stormx> Dolph: Download the PowerPC version, burn it, get a cheap USB mouse, boot it, you're awat!
[02:22] <Dolph> Stormx, sure will :)
[02:22] <cafuego_> lui: then you need the wxgtk -dev package
[02:23] <cafuego_> Dolph: it runs great on the 350MHz iMacs here :-)
[02:23] <cafuego_> apokryphos: Nope
[02:23] <Stormx> ^___________________________________^;;
[02:23] <Dolph> cafuego, with no latency in Gnome what so ever?
[02:23] <Stormx> bbs
[02:23] <ags06> IR connection anyone
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Dolph: Linux/ubuntu is noticeably more snappy than OS-X on my machine
[02:23] <apokryphos> cafuego: nope, as in it's not potentially pretty harmful?
[02:23] <cafuego_> Dolph: A little bit. How much ram does it have?
[02:23] <lui> ok
[02:24] <Dolph> cafuego, 320mb
[02:24] <cafuego_> apokryphos: No more harmful than running stuff as root outside of gnome.
[02:24] <lui> cafuego: do you speak spanish?
[02:24] <cafuego_> Dolph: yeah, that fine.
[02:24] <Dolph> cafuego_, ok, great.
[02:24] <Dolph> Thank you all for your kind and fast help :)
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Dolph: if you can afford more RAM, get it though - makes a difference
[02:24] <cafuego_> Dolph: The original imac hdds were a bit slow, so large apps will have a slight load delay
[02:25] <Dolph> thoreauputic, it's a laptop.. ? :o
[02:25] <cafuego_> with a new 8Mb cache drive and 512Mb though... :-)
[02:25] <apokryphos> cafuego_: I doubt it's confined to KDE. sudo {guiapp} can sometimes alter configuration files; sometimes making them root's. Especially with dcop sockets. sudo doesn't set up the environment to run gui apps; that's what gksudo, kdesu are for, surely
[02:25] <apokryphos> an app's config files, that is.
[02:25] <cafuego_> apokryphos: orbit complains; however it makes its OWN sockets with the username in them.
[02:26] <cafuego_> apokryphos: I've had warnings here, but never fatal errors.
[02:26] <thoreauputic> Dolph: well, mine's a laptop too - but you could get it with 256 512 or 768MB (Probably up to 1Gig) I have 768MB but 512 would have been fine too
[02:26] <Dolph> I'm im unable to get an USB mouse in time, though, seeing as I'll be using this in 2 days and it's weekend, is it completely impossible to utilize Ubuntu with a onebutton mouse?
[02:27] <Dolph> If I'm*
[02:27] <apokryphos> cafuego_: not fatal; can always be fixed with appropriate chown directory/ -- still, the errors are an issue. Do you still get them with gksudo/kdesu?
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Dolph: not at all - use the F11 and F12 keys
[02:27] <Stormx> Back
[02:28] <Dolph> thoreauputic, what do they do?
[02:28] <cafuego_> apokryphos: Never used those except through the admin menus.
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Dolph: you can mimic right and left buttons
[02:28] <Dolph> ahh
[02:28] <Stormx> thoreauputic: Not working for me >_<
[02:28] <namelesss> hi
[02:28] <cafuego_> Dolph: F12 will simulate a right-click at wherever the mosue pointer is
[02:28] <Dolph> now to figure out how to eject the cdrom drive in this..... lol
[02:29] <Stormx> Press the "Eject" button?
[02:29] <Stormx> ;D
[02:29] <cafuego_> Dolph: paperclip; see the little hole on thr right hand side of the slot?
[02:29] <Stormx> Yeh
[02:29] <Dolph> Yeah, but I'm pressing it and nothing happens :S
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Dolph: Linux has an "eject" command
[02:29] <Stormx> Quick release
[02:29] <Stormx> usefull for installing linux at school.
[02:29] <cafuego_> Dolph: If it on Linux, hit Eject
[02:30] <Dolph> This still has Mac OSX
[02:30] <cafuego_> Dolph: IOn macos, dump the cd icon in the trash
[02:30] <namelesss> hey i cannot install the java environment
[02:30] <cafuego_> Dolph: or hold down f12
[02:30] <namelesss> someone can help me ?
[02:30] <Dolph> lol, trash it, hahah
[02:30] <Stormx> namelesss: Sure.
[02:30] <Stormx> namelesss: Tried synaptic?
[02:30] <namelesss> no
[02:30] <cafuego_> Dolph: The trash turns into an eject icon when you hover the cd icon
[02:30] <namelesss> i tried manually
[02:30] <Dolph> but...there's no trash icon >.<
[02:30] <Dolph> grrr
[02:30] <namelesss> like explain to ubuntu.org
[02:30] <Stormx> namelesss: System > Administration > Synaptic
[02:30] <cafuego_> There is, on the dock, rightmost icon
[02:31] <Dolph> ooooh, true
[02:31] <cafuego_> Dolph: See if selecting the icon and hitting apple-Y works.
[02:31] <lui> people, wich are the common c++ and g++ I need to install to configure wxGTK?
[02:31] <Dolph> there we go, it ejected when I threw out the CD ^^
[02:31] <cafuego_> lui: why do you think you need to compile exgtk?
[02:31] <Haffe> Hi, I'm looking for a new soundcard. And I'm looking for one that's well supported. What should I get? Envy24? ACL805?
[02:32] <namelesss> how does it works ?
[02:32] <Stormx> ------------------YOU DON'T NEED TO COMPILE THINGS IN UBUNTU---------------------------------------
[02:32] <cafuego_> !compiling
[02:32] <Dolph> EOD.
[02:32] <Stormx> namelesss: Run a search for java?
[02:32] <lui> I'm just following some instructions to install lmule
[02:32] <namelesss> yep
[02:32] <cafuego_> lui: Then the instructions are wrong.
[02:32] <Stormx> namelesss: You may need universe enabled.
[02:32] <lui> so, what should I do?
[02:32] <Stormx> lui: Use synaptic.
[02:32] <namelesss> it search automaclly to internet and install ?
[02:33] <Stormx> namelesss: You need to find the java package you need, mark it for installation, and hit apply
[02:33] <Stormx> if its not there, tell me.
[02:33] <Stormx> Haha Donk
[02:33] <Stormx> thats a good name
[02:33] <cafuego_> !tell nameless about java
[02:33] <lui> lmule isn't in synaptic
[02:33] <cafuego_> lui; No, but wxgtk is.
[02:34] <Stormx> apt-get install lmule
[02:34] <Stormx> !lmule
[02:34] <ubotu> Stormx: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:34] <Stormx> No ;D
[02:34] <lui> it isn't in apt-get neither
[02:34] <cafuego_> namelesss: ubotu should have sent you info on how to get java going the proper (legal) way.
[02:34] <Stormx> lui: Download a debian package
[02:34] <lui> ok cafuego
[02:34] <namelesss> ok
[02:35] <Stormx> lui: Download the debian package (.deb) then go into terminal, go to the directory you downloaded into it and type dpkg -i <package name>
[02:35] <thoreauputic> namelesss: make sure you read the link from the java page to the help howto, anf add the hoary-extras repository
[02:35] <thoreauputic> *and
[02:35] <namelesss> huh ?
[02:35] <namelesss> lol
[02:36] <Stormx> Here, I'll give you my example repositories.
[02:36] <namelesss> sorry what is synaptic exactly ?
[02:36] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/330944
[02:36] <apokryphos> namelesss: the Ubuntu Package Manager
[02:36] <namelesss> ok
[02:36] <apokryphos> namelesss: you can both remove an fetch packages from servers (repositories)
[02:36] <Stormx> namelesss: Synaptic lets you download and isntall practicly anything
[02:36] <namelesss> a ok
[02:36] <apokryphos> s/an/and
[02:36] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/330944 - Thats my sources.list
[02:36] <namelesss> but i don't find the jre package with synaptic
[02:37] <Stormx> namelesss: Download a .deb of it
[02:37] <deFrysk> !java
[02:37] <apokryphos> namelesss: you need to enable extra repositories; that is, other servers that Synaptic can download from
[02:37] <namelesss> where ?
[02:37] <Stormx> namelesss: From it's site.
[02:37] <apokryphos> Stormx: no point; it's in backports
[02:37] <Stormx> Meh, ok.
[02:37] <apokryphos> namelesss: it's better to get it from the repository. Enable backports
[02:37] <Stormx> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse
[02:38] <Stormx> add that to sources.list
[02:38] <lui> Stormx: thanks. sorry, I have to know a lot of things dealing with linux, but I'm certainly learning.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Stormx: you don't need to go through the old painful methods any more
[02:38] <Mez> Stormx, Java isnt in official backports
[02:38] <namelesss> arf
[02:38] <Stormx> You need "universe"
[02:38] <Stormx> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports universe multiverse
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Stormx: erm , no - it's in hoary-extras
[02:39] <Mez> Stormx, Java is in hoary-extras
[02:39] <namelesss> what is haory ?
[02:39] <namelesss> hoary
[02:39] <namelesss> i'm french so i don't understand all
[02:39] <apokryphos> geh
[02:39] <highvoltage> namelesss: it is the name of the stable release of Ubuntu
[02:39] <thoreauputic> namelesss: nickname for ubuntu 5.04
[02:39] <namelesss> ok
[02:39] <apokryphos> Stormx: sorry, they're right. Mixup.
[02:39] <namelesss> thx
[02:40] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: The java in extras is actually illegal, as redistribution is expressly forbidden in the license.
[02:40] <apokryphos> cafuego_: ubotu doesn't search hoary-extras?
[02:40] <Mez> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras restricted
[02:40] <cafuego_> apokryphos: well, he should...
[02:40] <Stormx> Bah.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> cafuego: hmm ... well looks like I'm now an unwitting lawbreaker :)
[02:40] <cafuego_> !find j2se extras
[02:40] <apokryphos> nope
[02:40] <apokryphos> info sun-j2re1.5
[02:40] <Mez> cafuego, not neccesarilty
[02:40] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: !java in the bot gives proper instructions.
[02:41] <apokryphos> that's the pack
[02:41] <lui> excuse me, but, there is somthing better than lmule, before I install it?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> cafuego: ah, that has changed !
[02:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'j2se extras' returned no results.
[02:42] <namelesss> i tried the ubuntu backports method but it failed i taped "sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5" on term but the sun-j2sdk1.5 doesn't founded
[02:42] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: Yes, I changed it after whathisface said he accidentally wrecked the wiki
[02:42] <thoreauputic> cafuego: the hoary-extras method is *much* simpler... but I guess we have to toe the line
[02:42] <lui> excuse me, but, is there something better than lmule, before I install it?
[02:42] <izmaelis> lui, try amule
[02:42] <apokryphos> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras
[02:43] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: well, you know...
[02:43] <lui> oks
[02:43] <thoreauputic> cafuego: seems quite a lot of useful stuff has disappeared from the wiki lately... no names no pack-drill and all that
[02:44] <omeg> How do I create a shortcut? I want to run a program with a certain command line (namely: 'dosbox -conf "/home/omega/Dosbox computer/config.conf"'), and want to make a shortcut that does this.
[02:44] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: Long live anarchy!
[02:44] <Stormx> omeg: its called a "launcher"
[02:45] <omeg> Neat. How do I create one?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I'm with you on that ;)
[02:45] <Stormx> omeg: On your desktop or in nautilus, right click > create launcher
[02:45] <cafuego_> thoreauputic: You can't be, I didn't say anarchosyndcalism ;-)
[02:45] <wezzer-> I need help: http://pastebin.com/331206
[02:45] <dazjorz>  Roses are red
[02:45] <dazjorz>  Violets are blu
[02:45] <dazjorz> blue*
[02:45] <dazjorz> I am schitzofrenic
[02:45] <dazjorz> Me too
[02:46] <dazjorz> lol
[02:46] <iddqd> anybody using nforce2 ac97 audio here?
[02:46] <omeg> Neat, it works just fine.
[02:46] <omeg> Thanks.
[02:46] <Stormx> np
[02:46] <cafuego_> dazjorz: hamer
[02:46] <wibble> roses are red, violets are blue, all my base, are belong to you
[02:46] <apokryphos> namelesss: you can add deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted    to sources.list; sudo apt-get update, then install it
[02:46] <iddqd> violets aren't blue
[02:47] <cafuego_> ik hou van je / ik blijf je trouw / totdat ik van / een ander hou
[02:47] <Stormx> violets are violet.
[02:47] <wezzer-> hey iptables experts: http://pastebin.com/331206
[02:47] <thoreauputic> cafuego: right, a true anarchist would never say "I'm with you on that" :-)
[02:47] <JoshRA> Hello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?
[02:47] <dazjorz> LOL
[02:49] <oonoon> hi
[02:49] <cafuego_> JoshRA: kernEl bug eh
[02:49] <anacron> i don't know can you guys help me anymore, but i still have problem with my wlan card, dwl-510, i can't get it working with ndiswrapper or madwifi, i tried latest dwl510 inf file and realtecs inf file with ndiswrapper but nothing, anyone here who could help?
[02:49] <Vital303> Hi! I've recently installed Ubuntu. Everything works fine, but it seems that my soundcard (Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit) hasn't been detected.
[02:49] <namelesss> ok it works thx
[02:49] <oonoon> when i launch the cfdisk on my user account, i get a 'Fatal error, can't open the disk unit', bug ?
[02:49] <JoshRA> cafuego_: i guess. tspc uis freenet6's clinet to confiure an tunnel from behind a nat firewall
[02:50] <anacron> Vital303: check ubuntu wiki if there's a howto for that
[02:51] <Shufla> hello :)
[02:51] <cafuego_> JoshRA: Is the ipv6 module loaded BEFORE you start tspc?
[02:51] <mOi> hi
[02:51] <JoshRA> Yes
[02:51] <JoshRA> and so is tun jic
[02:52] <cafuego_> JoshRA: Did you install the freenet6 package or did you download the client off the freenet6 site?
[02:52] <JoshRA> i did apt-get
[02:52] <anacron> any guru's with wlan here? howto's wont help me
[02:52] <pfp> wezzer-: can you add the iptables command, that you use for the tp-proxy, to your pastebin post?
[02:52] <JoshRA> i have not been able to get the downloaded verison to run for me
[02:53] <zer> anacron: Thats a metaquestion ;-)
[02:53] <wezzer-> pfp: ok, just a minute
[02:53] <pfp> wezzer-: i can help w/ the exception then
[02:53] <anacron> zer: what's a metaquestion
[02:53] <cafuego_> JoshRA: Are you running a precompiled kernel or a self-compiled one?
[02:53] <cafuego_> anacron: a waste of time
[02:53] <JoshRA> one that same with the od
[02:53] <JoshRA> ois
[02:54] <JoshRA> os so precompiled
[02:54] <anacron> well i did ask already with specific details but no one did answer
[02:54] <wezzer-> pfp: it's there; http://pastebin.com/331212
[02:54] <anacron> but if i ask like that i morelikely get someone to talk
[02:55] <JoshRA> cafuego_: precompiled
[02:55] <mOi> hat irgendjemand ein klein wenig zeit und knnte mir bei einem problem helfen ?
[02:56] <mOi> wre nett danke
[02:56] <anacron> cafuego_: someone who would know might have joined right now, and didn't see my original question
[02:56] <Vital303> I have checked documentation wiki and cant find how to troubleshooting my sound card. Is there any simple Sound Card Configuration Tool?
[02:56] <cafuego_> anacron: within 5 mins? nah
[02:56] <anacron> linux and simple usually can't fit in the same centence
[02:56] <JoshRA> i have never compiled a linux kernal only a BSD
[02:57] <anacron> where is sevas, he always has answer for my questions
[02:57] <cafuego_> JoshRA: Hmm, probably file a bug against that kernel package then
[02:57] <pfp> wezzer-: http://pastebin.com/331215 simple as that :)
[02:57] <JoshRA> cafuego_: i did update the keernal via apt then this started to happen
[02:57] <wezzer-> thank you very much :)
[02:57] <pfp> wezzer-: the commands (iptables rules) have to be in that order
[02:57] <wezzer-> okay
[02:57] <pfp> np
[02:58] <cafuego_> JoshRA: The previous kernel should still be in the boot menu.
[02:58] <JoshRA> Linux localglade 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:58] <cafuego_> JoshRA: What kind of CPU do you have?
[02:58] <cafuego_> duh, a P3/p4
[02:59] <JoshRA> p3 600
[02:59] <cafuego_> JoshRA: Can you install the kernel for -686 ?
[02:59] <JoshRA> if i can find a howto guide for it
[02:59] <Dolph> Is it just me, or is there no DEL button on a mac?
[02:59] <JoshRA> i have not compiled a kernal for linux before
[02:59] <cafuego_> JoshRA: Just use synaptic
[03:00] <cafuego_> JoshRA: There is a PREcompiled 2.6.10-5-686
[03:00] <cafuego_> (as opposed to -386)
[03:00] <JoshRA> k
[03:01] <Dolph> cafuego_, now that you mention -686, if I install Ubuntu on a mac, I will need -PPC packages of every single thing I install, won't I?
[03:01] <rommer> is there a way to change the ubuntu screen that says  loading panel... etc when u login to a gnome desktop?
[03:01] <Stormx> Dolph: Nope
[03:01] <cafuego_> Doplh: yes, it willt ake of that automatically.
[03:01] <Stormx> rommer: Yes, ask in #GNOME
[03:01] <jorsca> hi there, I am using Hoary and I can't manage to play sounds using either totem or mplayer. I know it has something to do with esd but I can't figure how to correct it.
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Dolph: the package manager takes care of getting the right debs for you
[03:02] <cafuego_> yes, it will take care of that automatically.
[03:02] <Dolph> What if, I want to install Mplayer, but mplayer only exists for i386?
[03:02] <cafuego_> Dolph: there is an mplayer for ppc
[03:02] <Stormx> jorsca: Change the output plugin to eSound
[03:02] <Dolph> Or are there PPC deb packages for almost all i386 packs?
[03:02] <JoshRA> root@localglade:~ # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[03:02] <cafuego_> no w32codecs, though.
[03:02] <jorsca> yep did that
[03:02] <Dolph> cafuego, it was hypothetically
[03:02] <Stormx> Still nothing? Do you get sound otherwise?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Dolph: there are no win 32 codecs for ppc of course
[03:02] <Dolph> no w32codecs? Hmm, that sucks...
[03:02] <jorsca> well, I managed to have some by killing esd
[03:02] <Dolph> What do I do then, if I want to playback a movie in XviD ?
[03:03] <cafuego_> Dolph: well, they're win32 DLLs.. no way they're going to do ANYHTING on ppc ;-)
[03:03] <thoreauputic> Dolph: you can set up mac on linux and run multimedia in that, if you want to
[03:03] <cafuego_> Dolph: Quicktime does Xvid/DivX
[03:03] <cafuego_> But you'd need OSX.
[03:03] <Dolph> Have that
[03:03] <Drune> well, ubuntu 64binary's are not updated?
[03:04] <cafuego_> Drune: since when?
[03:04] <jorsca> mplayer crashes if I use -ao esd
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Dolph: there's a mac-on-linux howto int he wiki (or was anyway) .. hang on I'll look
[03:05] <Stormx> jorsca: Use XMMS
[03:05] <Stormx> !mac
[03:05] <Drune> cafuego, just an example, gaim is in 1.1.4 in ubuntu64 bits repository.
[03:05] <ubotu> Stormx: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:05] <Drune> current version is 1.4.0
[03:05] <cafuego_> Drune: Some stuff has been ported, other stuff hasn't.
[03:05] <necrogami> Anyone gonna watch the Brickyard 400?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Dolph:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto
[03:05] <cafuego_> Drune: My amd64 has 1.4 installed
[03:06] <jorsca> Stormx: I'll try xmms with different plugins
[03:06] <thoreauputic> ubotu mol is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto
[03:06] <ubotu> ...but mol is already something else...
[03:06] <necrogami> my AMD Semperon  has 1.4 GAIM installed
[03:06] <Drune> cafuego, maybe i'm using wrong mirror.
[03:06] <thoreauputic> hmm
[03:06] <thoreauputic> !mol
[03:06] <ubotu> somebody said mol was See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help
[03:06] <jorsca> it crashed when I used the default configuration
[03:06] <cafuego_> !info gaim
[03:06] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[03:07] <cafuego_> Drune: No, 1.1.4 is correct for hoary.
[03:07] <Drune> hmm, a little bit older.
[03:07] <cafuego_> Drune: Is it broken?
[03:07] <mOi> moin
[03:07] <Drune> no.
[03:07] <cafuego_> !rule 1
[03:07] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[03:07] <Drune> ahah
[03:07] <Stormx> hahaha
[03:07] <Drune> hahahhah
[03:07] <Stormx> !rule 2
[03:07] <ubotu> Stormx: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:08] <omeg> Hey guys. I'm trying to run Dosbox. It works just fine right now, except for one thing: there's no sound! I've set everything up just fine, and the games should have sound, but they don't. When I ran Windows, I didn't have this problem...
[03:08] <cafuego_> Drune: Breezy (in october) will have 1.4
[03:08] <omeg> Maybe any of you know?
[03:08] <necrogami> Anyone gonna watch the Brickyard 400?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> ubotu rule 2 is see rule 1
[03:08] <omeg> Sound works just fine in my system, by the way. Just not for Dosbox.
[03:08] <ubotu> okay, thoreauputic
[03:08] <Stormx> omeg: Dunno
[03:08] <Stormx> ubotu rule * is rule 1
[03:08] <ubotu> okay, Stormx
[03:08] <cafuego_> !no, rule 2 is <reply> GOTO #1
[03:09] <Stormx> ubotu: Don't listen to cafuego_, he is a liar
[03:09] <ubotu> Stormx: I think you lost me on that one
[03:09] <Stormx> !info Seveas
[03:09] <jorsca> xmms with the esound esd output, still no sound with totem-xine
[03:09] <omeg> So I don't think anything is blocking the sound...
[03:09] <Drune> well, it's stupid don't update something because it's not broken at all.
[03:10] <Drune> see kernel example.
[03:10] <Stormx> ubotu, Seveas is Seveas is Cool
[03:10] <ubotu> Stormx: what are you talking about?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Stormx: try !seen
[03:10] <Stormx> !seen Seveas
[03:10] <ubotu> seveas is currently on #ubuntu (3h 47m 18s)
[03:10] <cafuego_> Drune: Not fixing things that aren't broken is SANE.
[03:11] <Stormx> ubotu Seveas is Seveas is damn cool!
[03:11] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Stormx
[03:11] <Stormx> Gah
[03:11] <Stormx> !Seveas
[03:11] <ubotu> Stormx: I don't know
[03:11] <thoreauputic> !lart Stormx
[03:11] <Stormx> rofl!
[03:11] <thoreauputic> :D
[03:11] <Stormx> !kick thoreauputic
[03:11] <ubotu> Stormx: No idea
[03:12] <hhurtta_> anyone have latest mplayer sources to share. seems that mplayerhq.hu is down.
[03:12] <Stormx> !zot thoreauputic
[03:12] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Stormx
[03:12] <Stormx> !lart thoreauputic
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Stormx: random guesses won't do it I'm afraid
[03:12] <Stormx> !help
[03:12] <cafuego_> !botabuse
[03:12] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:12] <Stormx> !cookie
[03:12] <ubotu> Hey stormx, !fsf #DEL# is Free Software Foundation, Foundation which aims to make a completely Free operating system (GNU/Linux0
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Stormx:  /msg ubotu silly buggers
[03:13] <Stormx> !wantnick Stormx
[03:13] <ubotu> Stormx: I give up, what is it?
[03:14] <Stormx> Gah
[03:14] <cafuego_> Tssk, cookie hoort vast geen arked as deleted'factoids op te halen
[03:14] <Stormx> !+host Stormx
[03:14] <ubotu> Stormx: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:14] <cafuego_> Stormx: Would you mind not spamming the channel with bot playtime?
[03:14] <Stormx> sorry ^_^
[03:14] <znh> cafuego: this is an english channel :] 
[03:14] <cafuego_> Stormx: The ops don't take kindly to it.
[03:14] <thoreauputic> Stormx: stop it,, please
[03:14] <Stormx> I have damn you ^_&
[03:14] <cafuego_> znh: sorry, wat?
[03:15] <chao> fwf
[03:15] <znh> cafuego: you just spoke some dutch
[03:15] <cafuego_> znh: relapse ;-)
[03:15] <omeg> So, anybody else who's had problems with the sound card not working with certain programs?
[03:15] <Stormx> you're wife has homework?
[03:15] <Stormx> INCEST!
[03:15] <highvoltage> cafuego_: you know dutch?
[03:16] <pfp> heh
[03:16] <cafuego_> highvoltage: i *am* dutch
[03:16] <Stormx> I have limited dutch
[03:16] <omeg> cafuego: are you married to a non-Dutch woman, and she's learning Dutch?
[03:16] <Stormx> 3 word
[03:16] <Stormx> "Boom", "Hallo" and "Ja"
[03:16] <highvoltage> cafuego_: ah, ok. :) I'm afrikaans, so I understand dutch (mostly).
[03:16] <omeg> Hehe, neat, Stormx.
[03:16] <jorsca> ok great, everything works... didn't change anything else than choosing the esound output in xmms...
[03:16] <cafuego_> Stormx: a spouse is family by definition. Were you after paedophilia?
[03:16] <cafuego_> omeg: yep
[03:16] <concept10> what is a good linux icq client?
[03:16] <highvoltage> comforteagle: gaim
[03:16] <cafuego_> concept10: gaim
[03:17] <SadAngelman> anyone here know how to get ununtu to install on a beige g3 macintosh computer running mac os10.2.8
[03:17] <silvertear> gaim and kopete
[03:17] <highvoltage> comforteagle: sorry, meant for concept10
[03:17] <pavan> Guys , belive this is ubuntu linux channel .. isn't it?
[03:17] <cafuego_> highvoltage: Ah yes, theye still pretty similar.
[03:17] <omeg> Interesting. I knew one guy who did that, too. He married someone from Canada.
[03:17] <concept10> oh, i didnt know gaim did icq, thanks
[03:17] <Stormx> So if someone asked me (in dutch) "Hello, Is that a tree?" I would answer "Hallo! Ja Ja! Boom! Boom!"
[03:17] <dj28> concept10: if you prefer console clients, i suggest centericq ;)
[03:17] <cafuego_> pavan: /topic
[03:17] <znh> pavan: this is #ubutnu indeed
[03:17] <silvertear> gaim does a lot,
[03:17] <znh> silvertear: not enough
[03:17] <cafuego_> omeg: Anything to get out of holland... ;-)
[03:17] <silvertear> what would you add?
[03:18] <omeg> You sure? I kind of like it here...
[03:18] <concept10> Do I have to have an ICQ Account?
[03:18] <znh> silvertear: some sort of picturebox that displays your current buddy picture
[03:18] <dj28> concept10: yea
[03:18] <cafuego_> concept10: How are we supposed to know?
[03:18] <omeg> Where are you moving to?
[03:18] <pavan> :-) apologies..bit new for this.. I am newbie for ubuntu and would like to intsall it and run skype on it..can i do that?
[03:18] <rommer> is it possible to move the friends' display pictures to the left of the name?
[03:18] <concept10> cafuego, because maybe you are a user
[03:18] <cafuego_> omeg: I've lived in melbourne for 8 1/2 years
[03:18] <concept10> cafuego, problem?
[03:18] <dj28> concept10: go sign up for one and then type the info in gaim
[03:18] <silvertear> znh: you can add it in if you compile from source instead of k/synaptic
[03:18] <thoreauputic> pavan: yes you can install skype
[03:18] <omeg> concept10: generally, if you want to use a messenger service, then... yes, you do need an account.
[03:18] <cafuego_> concept10: No, never mind, I can't read.
[03:19] <hhurtta> Please, does anyone have mplayer sources lying somewhere on their harddrive to share?
[03:19] <znh> silvertear: then i've to add some c++ knowlegde too
[03:19] <concept10> I know, I know, dumb question... :)
[03:19] <cafuego_> hhurtta: Any reason you can't just apt-get install it?
[03:19] <silvertear> not to be anal, but i think its in C
[03:19] <hhurtta> cafuego_: i want to compile myself
[03:19] <thoreauputic> hhurtta: mplayer is available from the multiverse repository
[03:19] <cafuego_> concept10: You should be able to create an icq account using gaim.
[03:19] <cafuego_> !compile
[03:19] <ubotu> well, compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand
[03:20] <cafuego_> hhurtta: Done that before?>
[03:20] <hhurtta> always
[03:20] <pavan> thanks "thoreauputic"
[03:20] <cafuego_> Why can't you download the source then?
[03:20] <hhurtta> mplayerhq.hu is down for me
[03:21] <cafuego_> hhurtta: apt-get source mplayer
[03:21] <hhurtta> cafuego_: thanks. that did it
[03:21] <thoreauputic> pavan: add this a t the botom of /etc/apt/sources.list >> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:21] <Vital303> How to check is 'alsa' installed?
[03:21] <silvertear> by trying to reinstall it?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> Vital303: it is, unless you've done something weird
[03:22] <cafuego_> hhurtta: Now, edit debian/rules and create a custom .deb via 'dpkg-buildpcackage -b' - that makes it easier to manage.
[03:22] <SadAngelman> anyone know about installing on a macintosh computer
[03:22] <Vital303> OK
[03:22] <cafuego_> ubotu: compile is also Ask me about <compiling>
[03:22] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[03:23] <hhurtta> cafuego_: thanks. never done this with debian/ubuntu
[03:23] <Aerotrace> Hey
[03:23] <thoreauputic> SadAngelman: just use the ppc iso - it's pretty much the same as installing on x86 really
[03:23] <z|bandito> whats the package to install webdav? :)
[03:23] <cafuego_> hhurtta: Then you will find "apt-get build-dep mplayer" very useful.
[03:23] <cafuego_> z|bandito: apache2
[03:23] <Vital303> alsamixer returns
[03:24] <Vital303> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:24] <z|bandito> hi cafuego
[03:24] <cafuego_> z|bandito: Just enable mod_dav via 'a2enmod'
[03:24] <z|bandito> ok i'll try
[03:24] <soaz> hi
[03:24] <SadAngelman> i have ubuntu 5.04 & bootx but bootx says i need mac os9 to install ubuntu & i only have os10.2.8
[03:24] <Heijmen> how can i eject the cd from the drive when 'eject' from nautilus doesn't work?
[03:25] <z|bandito> do i need dav_fs?
[03:25] <SadAngelman> ive tried just about everything i can think of but cant get it to install
[03:25] <thoreauputic> SadAngelman: ? you don't need anything mor than the install disc to install ubuntu-ppc
[03:25] <thoreauputic> *more than
[03:25] <silvertear> hey, what would i need to run a mailserver at home? so like if my computer is mycomp.mydomain, what would i need to receive mail with silvertear@mycomp.mydomain?
[03:26] <silvertear> smtp is only the protocol for sending mail, right?
[03:26] <SadAngelman> well how do you get the cd to boot then as ive tried just about everything & nothing seems to work
[03:26] <pfp> silvertear: install an MTA (postfix is good) and have DNS point MX records to your IP
[03:26] <mjr> silvertear, the only relevant one, yes
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Heijmen: try the "eject" command - if that doesn't work try "sudo eject"
[03:27] <thoreauputic> SadAngelman: put in CD, reboot, hold down the c key
[03:27] <SadAngelman> tried that & it dont work
[03:27] <pfp> silvertear: sending, and receiving, depending on which side you are ,)
[03:28] <soaz> does somebody know, how can i change QT settings like font-size without KDE ? i have installed standart hoary installation, would like to use Skype, so i only installed libqt .. works fine so far, but the fonts are HUGE. does anyone know, how to change them, without installing some/lots of KDE apps ? thank you!
[03:28] <silvertear> wait so my mail transport agent receives the email, and thunderbird, for example, retrives it from the mta?
[03:28] <SadAngelman> i have an older mac a beige g3 & it will only boot with the c key held down if it can find an offical mac system folder on the cd
[03:29] <Heijmen> thoreauputic, 'eject' opens the wrong drive, 'eject hdd' (hdd is the correct drive) gives error 'eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument' which is also what i get from nautilus
[03:30] <pfp> silvertear: mta receives it and stores it somewhere on your (mail server's) hard disk, common places are /var/mail/$username and ~/Maildir/
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Heijmen: hmm - does " sudo eject /dev/hdd " work?
[03:30] <popey> Heijmen: use the device name eject /dev/hdd
[03:30] <Heijmen> thoreauputic, sudo-ing it worked, still the error-msg but at least it ejected.. thanxxx!
[03:30] <silvertear> mta listens on my port 25?
[03:30] <pfp> silvertear: yes
[03:30] <silvertear> ok thx
[03:30] <z|bandito> SadAngelman did you try selecting it as the boot drive using system prefs-> startup disc?
[03:31] <z|bandito> or try holding option when booting to use openfirmware to display a list of boot devices
[03:31] <thoreauputic> Heijmen: you can set eject suid root ( chmod +s /usr/bin/eject )
[03:31] <JoshRA> .c
[03:31] <JoshRA> cafuego_: i did that but it still panics on me
[03:31] <SadAngelman> theres a program called bootx which helps older macs boot the cd so you can install linux but it only works under os9 & i only have os10
[03:31] <Heijmen> thoreauputic, ok thanxxx for the tip
[03:32] <SadAngelman> ive searched the net for hours but cant find any help on how to get the cd to boot under os10
[03:33] <uMbala> I installed Ubuntu 5.04 on my PC, and when it had to start the X window system, my monitor turned off and nothing happened after... Whatto do?
[03:33] <pfp> soaz: at least with 'qtconfig' and 'kcontrol' but i dunno how much kde dependencies they have
[03:33] <z|bandito> SadAngelman did you try selecting it as the boot drive using system prefs-> startup disc?
[03:33] <z|bandito> or try holding option when booting to use openfirmware to display a list of boot devices
[03:33] <z|bandito> =p
[03:34] <Vital303> Where can I find 'kernel sources'?
[03:34] <z|bandito> uMbala you can try looking at the boot options available when it first starts up, perhaps there is a boot option for your grfx system etc?
[03:35] <SadAngelman> it dosnt come up as startup disc or give me anything when holding option at startup
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Vital303: apt-cache search linux-source
[03:35] <soaz> pfp: thank you for the tip. i'll try ..
[03:35] <z|bandito> are you sure it's a good burn?
[03:35] <z|bandito> openfirmware should be able to do it without a mac os folder
[03:35] <Vital303> horeauputic: Thank you.
[03:36] <seif> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:36] <z|bandito> though, i have a g3 that will no longer boot osx or linux, so you may just have some hw problem, with all due respect... it's been known to happen
[03:36] <SadAngelman> its an offical cd ordered of the ubuntu website
[03:36] <uMbala> z|bandito, it runs under recovery mode... but it doesnt recognize 'xinit', 'startx' or 'xstart'
[03:36] <z|bandito> can try resetting the pram maybe.. SadAngelman
[03:36] <SadAngelman> tried that as well with no luck
[03:38] <SadAngelman> i can find many web sites with people saying there running ubuntu & os10 on a beige g3 just no help on how to get it installed
[03:38] <Snippy> hello everyone
[03:38] <SadAngelman> its driving me mad
[03:39] <BockBilbo> :S anyone here knows why nautilus gets frozen every once in a while because of the nfs of smb mounted partition?
[03:39] <BockBilbo> :S
[03:40] <uMbala> z|bandito, can ya help?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> SadAngelman: have you seen this? Might help.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[03:40] <joachim> hi
[03:40] <z|bandito> uMbala sorry i'm not sure.. perhaps the installation failed, you could just try again.  i have a box that took a few attempts to get a good install
[03:40] <joachim> can gparted run on warty? the ubuntu package site only has it for hoary & breezy
[03:41] <trimethy> hello all together
[03:41] <z|bandito> if you do, consider looking at the boot/installation options for something about graphics
[03:41] <Snippy> hello trimethy
[03:41] <z|bandito> someone else might know more, though
[03:41] <SadAngelman> that site isnt much help sorry
[03:42] <trimethy> Does anybody have some experiance with ubuntu on a powerbook ? More specific keyboard configuration ?
[03:43] <z|bandito> there is a keyboard mapper in system prefs
[03:43] <ralf_> spricht jemand deutsch ?
[03:43] <trimethy> I'm struggeling with getting pbbuttons to work
[03:43] <Tomcat__> ralf_: #ubuntu-de
[03:43] <vader1102> trimethy:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38523.html
[03:44] <alf> hi
[03:44] <ralf_> bekomme ubuntu nicht auf mein notebook
[03:44] <alf> kennt sich hier jemand mit wlan aus?
[03:45] <alf> ich bekomme mein pci-wlan nicht zum laufen
[03:45] <vader1102> <----only knows english
[03:45] <alf> oh sry
[03:45] <vader1102> ok
[03:45] <alf> i dont get running my wlan-pci-card (digitus)
[03:45] <rommer> can anyone help me change the select colour of gdm options from the default brown to match another theme, and also to take the ubuntu gnome loading screen (which shows loading panel etc) away or change it to something else?
[03:45] <alf> bad english - i know =)
[03:46] <vader1102> it id s digitus card?
[03:46] <Snippy> I've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?
[03:46] <trimethy> Thx vader: but it's more related to the function keys, it seems that pbbuttonsd doesn't register my F* function keys.
[03:46] <znh> rommer: start gdmsetup, with sudo
[03:46] <alf> yes its a digitus
[03:46] <reka> joachim: http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/x11/qtparted
[03:46] <vader1102> ok, hold on please
[03:46] <reka> joachim: an alternative
[03:46] <alf> yes - ok
[03:46] <wezzer-> what if my friend has forgotten his password?
[03:47] <wezzer-> how can he make a new user account?
[03:47] <znh> alf: how come the most german people can't speak english very well?
[03:47] <soaz> pfp: qtconfig helped with the font size. and does not depend on anything beside libqt. now if i find out, how to apply qt themes without kde that would be great. but i think that will not be possible without kcontrol. but anyway the fonts are set. THANKS!
[03:47] <trimethy> wezzer: boot in single user mode and reset
[03:47] <Random_Sindrom> hhf
[03:47] <wezzer-> trimethy: ok, thanks
[03:47] <alf> dunno
[03:48] <rommer> znh, there is nothing about changing the option select colour there
[03:48] <Random_Sindrom> hhf{{ij
[03:48] <rommer> or chanign the loading screen
[03:48] <vader1102> alf: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[03:48] <znh> rommer: you can change the splash-screen, and the theme
[03:48] <vader1102> trimethy, sorry dude, just google for an answer, that;s how I got that
[03:48] <pfp> soaz: great, glad to help .)
[03:49] <alf> vader1102 - can we go in a seperate channel (alone)?
[03:49] <joachim> thanks reka :)
[03:49] <tyrchyus> hi
[03:49] <vader1102> alf: I prefer not to, I just got up and cannot focus real well
[03:49] <reka> joachim: no worries
[03:50] <trimethy> Vader: I'm doeing this the last couple of days, but's a bit unclear, I compiled severel kenels with and whitout the fn key patch, doe you know perhaps which modules are required to get this to work ?
[03:50] <alf> ok
[03:50] <trimethy> And how I could start debuggin this ?
[03:50] <tyrchyus> in ubuntu-it he don't help me sorry for my english.....
[03:50] <vader1102> trimethy, just a sec
[03:52] <alf> vader1102: what i have to do now?
[03:52] <tyrchyus> I have a multi function but the scanner don't go.....we understand?
[03:52] <tools> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42823
[03:52] <ralf_> suche startdiskette fr ubuntu-CD
[03:52] <tools> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42823
[03:52] <tools> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42823
[03:52] <thoreauputic> chtank: for a speed up on that machine try xfce4 instead of gnome
[03:52] <vader1102> trimethy: here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34104.html
[03:52] <thoreauputic> chtank: but that needs you to install 5.04 I'd say
[03:53] <vader1102> alf: just follow the directions in that kink
[03:53] <alf> i have downloaded the right one and extracted it
[03:53] <alf> but now....?
[03:53] <concept10> ban tools, thats spam
[03:54] <trimethy> Vader: Thx, will give it an other try
[03:54] <Snippy> I've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?
[03:54] <vader1102> ok, so now keep the web page open and follow all of the directions
[03:54] <chtank> tell me where I find that?  Is it on synaptic?  I have been using it, but it seems to be an old version of synaptic, I use the one on my PCLinuxOS (a mandrake desktop release)
[03:55] <thoreauputic> chtank: as I said, xfce4 is probably only available on hoary ( 5.04) - at least the recent 4.2
[03:55] <alf> ??? well, i scrolled to my card: digitus dn-7001..... and downloaded it.
[03:55] <vader1102> thoreauputic, I used it on Warty
[03:56] <thoreauputic> chtank: I would enable the universe repository first, whatever WM you decide to use
[03:56] <thoreauputic> vader1102: ah OK - wasn't sure
[03:56] <vader1102> ok, have yo downloaded the ndiswrapper program alf
[03:56] <silvertear> what is the postfix process called in ps -A?
[03:57] <seif> hey guys
[03:57] <seif> i want t odo another entry besides application places System and so on
[03:57] <alf> aahhm, yes - with the synaptic-package-manager
[03:57] <vader1102> does anyone here have the wireless how to for ubuntu?
[03:57] <seif> how can i do that
[03:57] <crashd> vader1102: it's on the wiki
[03:57] <crashd> wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <pfp> silvertear: there are many, do ps auxw | grep postfix
[03:57] <chtank> ok, thanks I will enable the unversal, I shall return here later since this is an old slow machine, thanks guys
[03:58] <vader1102> yes crash, I had the complete url for it
[03:58] <crashd> umm
[03:58] <crashd> wiki.ubuntu.com//WiFiHowto
[03:58] <crashd> probably
[03:58] <vader1102> brb
[03:59] <alf> vader1102 - if i type: iwconfig i get the following....
[04:00] <kr> i am using mozilla mail , anybody know if there exist any email notifiers to that program, that show up on my screen when i have got new mail,
[04:00] <alf> lo   no wireless extensions               eth0   now wire.....                sit0   no wirel.......
[04:02] <Snippy> I've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?
[04:02] <guardianx> how do you install a .deb package>???
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> dpkg --install
[04:02] <crashd> dpkg -i package.deb
[04:03] <kr> anybody????? email notifiers???? does it exist for ubuntu
[04:03] <reka> guardianx: what is it?
[04:03] <vader1102> alf: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22645.html
[04:04] <reka> kr: course there are
[04:04] <reka> apt-cache search mail notifier
[04:04] <guardianx> reka - it is a packabe called /libnvtvsimple0_0.4.7-2ubuntu1_i386.deb i'm jus trying to get nvtv to work
[04:05] <kr> reka:in root terminal? i am new at this
[04:05] <reka> guardianx: ok, just checking you weren't installing something you could apt-get
[04:05] <reka> kr: normal terminal
[04:05] <alf> vader1102 shall i do now what stacywebb tells?
[04:05] <kr> thank you
[04:05] <vader1102> sure
[04:05] <namelesss> do ubuntu got a firewall ?
[04:05] <namelesss> integrated
[04:05] <Aerotrace> yes.
[04:06] <Aerotrace> !firewall
[04:06] <ubotu> I heard firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[04:06] <namelesss> it is the reason that a cannot send a ping demand ?
[04:06] <delmer> HELLO
[04:06] <Aerotrace> nameless: What happens when you ping?
[04:06] <namelesss> nothing
[04:06] <namelesss> that's the problem
[04:06] <Aerotrace> thats not helpfull
[04:06] <Aerotrace> Does it not resolve the address?
[04:06] <namelesss> i ve got ip of my friend for a try
[04:06] <namelesss> so i send a ip request
[04:06] <delmer> OK
[04:06] <namelesss> and all paquet lost
[04:06] <Aerotrace> Does it say "Command unrecognised"
[04:07] <namelesss> no no
[04:07] <Aerotrace> Namelesss: Try pinging google.com
[04:07] <namelesss> it works lol
[04:07] <kr> reka: now i have done that, what do i do now to get it working
[04:07] <Aerotrace> so its your freidn who has the problem.
[04:08] <tchmnky> So, can anybody tell me what's wrong with ALSA when aplay gives this message?:
[04:08] <tchmnky> Warning: rate is not accurate (requested = 44100Hz, got = 48000Hz)
[04:08] <tchmnky>          please, try the plug plugin (-Dplug:dmixer)
[04:08] <seif> how do i add a new entry in the gnome panel besides "Applications" "Places" "System"
[04:08] <eruin> I like the way gaim 2.0 rolls the window smoothy when a new message arrives in chat
[04:08] <Aerotrace> does this happen with every song?
[04:08] <eruin> or is that gtk2.7 ?
[04:08] <eruin> seif, rightclick
[04:08] <eruin> on a vacant spot
[04:09] <tchmnky> Aerotrace, it happens on all wave files, and things using alsa to play sounds play with 'Chipmunk Syndrome'. IE: Wrong samplerate.
[04:09] <seif> what right click
[04:09] <seif> for example i want
[04:09] <reka> kr: have you chosen one to install?
[04:10] <seif> "applications system places and ... games
[04:10] <kr> i wrote what you told me to, an  thats all
[04:11] <Kyral> hey how would I set a Cronjob to run "sudo slocate -u /" every day at 4 AM?
[04:11] <sorush20> guys how can I run safe mode thunderbird on ubuntu
[04:11] <Aerotrace> tchmnky: I'm not sure, make sure it has the right plugins, or use a diffrent output plugin.
[04:11] <reka> kr: that only searches for packages that have descriptions/names with 'mail' and 'notifier' in their strings
[04:11] <Aerotrace> *right decoders
[04:11] <reka> kr: did you get a list?
[04:12] <kr> just a minute and i can copy what i got
[04:12] <tchmnky> Hm. I'll try and get a default ALSA config going again, and see if that works -- I used the hardware mixing config file from ubuntuforums.org...
[04:12] <Aerotrace> Kyral: Why not? ^_^
[04:12] <tchmnky> Seems to have broken it. \o/
[04:12] <Kyral> eh?
[04:12] <Kyral> Aerotrace, eh?
[04:13] <kr> reka:bbmail - Mail notifier for Blackbox
[04:13] <kr> coolmail - Mail notifier with 3d graphics
[04:13] <kr> melon - Mail notifier with configurable icons, xbiff replacement
[04:13] <kr> xlassie - Dockable mail notifier w/ message count & POP3/APOP/IMAP support
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Kyral: there should already be a cron job by default to do updatedb fro the locate command, if that's what you are wanting to do
[04:14] <Aerotrace> Kyral: Oops, nevermind.
[04:14] <Snippy> I've got a problem.. my sound card works fine now.. well still some choppy sounds but thats not the problem.. my line out is not working, how come? any guesses?
[04:14] <reka> kr: don't paste in here please
[04:14] <Kyral> thoreauputic, yah
[04:14] <Kyral> how do I check on that
[04:14] <Aerotrace> Snippy: Checked the volume control app?
[04:14] <reka> kr: now do: apt-cache show <package> replacing package with the one you want to look at
[04:14] <Kyral> I know alot about Linux, but I don't know squat about Cronjobs :P
[04:14] <Snippy> Aerotrace, yep.
[04:14] <reka> e.g. apt-cache show xlassie
[04:14] <seif> how do i add a new entry in the gnome panel besides "Applications" "Places" "System"
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Kyral: /etc/crontab probably - although I think it's anacron in Ubuntu
[04:14] <Aerotrace> Snippy: No idea.
[04:14] <reka> kr: (i'd try xlassie 1st)
[04:14] <seif> how do i add a new menu in the gnome panel besides "Applications" "Places" "System"
[04:14] <Snippy> Aerotrace, ok..
[04:15] <Aerotrace> Line out? You mean like, MIDI ports?
[04:15] <Snippy> no the simple line out of my sound card
[04:15] <Snippy> the line out jack
[04:15] <Snippy> its like a second jack for the speakers
[04:15] <Aerotrace> PCM, maybe? No idea really.
[04:15] <Aerotrace> Yeh, its PCM, cause my speakers are plugged into that
[04:16] <Snippy> alsamixer -> everything checked..
[04:16] <Kyral> thoreauputic, its there, nm :D
[04:16] <Aerotrace> BTW Snippy, its me, Stormx. I just wanted to have a nick that wasn't registered.
[04:17] <Snippy> oh
[04:17] <Snippy> lol
[04:17] <Snippy> hello :)
[04:17] <kr> reka:  ok i have done that , what next
[04:19] <reka> kr: is it to your liking?
[04:19] <kr> yes
[04:19] <reka> kr: then: sudo apt-get install xlassie
[04:20] <reka> kr: btw, if you want to use a graphical application to install packages instead of using commands like how i've taught you, there is a program called synaptic
[04:20] <reka> system > admin > synaptic
[04:21] <kr> i know about synaptic, didnt know what to search for there, now its installed, do i just exit terminal and ist ok
[04:22] <reka> kr: if nothing showed up in the apps > internet menu, then try running xlassie through the terminal
[04:24] <Kyral> I cannot believe there is no commandline Prepend function for text files
[04:24] <kr> what  do i write in terminal, did not show in apps
[04:24] <Kyral> Wait....
[04:24] <reka> kr: try 'xlassie'
[04:24] <Kyral> thats gonna be hard to do in C++
[04:25] <kr> ok it came up a small window in upper left corner whith a number in it
[04:25] <dazjorz> hello
[04:26] <dazjorz> i've got a little question
[04:26] <Kyral> lets see, need to include <string> and <iostream>....
[04:26] <dazjorz> just for ehh,.. luxery
[04:26] <dazjorz> is it possible to make a screen like the tty's
[04:26] <dazjorz> that if I do alt+f12 or something
[04:26] <dazjorz> that you see a bmp image stored somewhere
[04:27] <dazjorz> for example,. a terminal that shows an image fullscreen without a key to exit it ?
[04:27] <kr> i suppose that is the notifier and the number is unread emails
[04:27] <reka> kr: probably...what's the number?
[04:28] <kr> 5
[04:28] <reka> kr: open up mozilla mail and see how many emails are unread
[04:29] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: from a tty you could do for instance startx /usr/bin/feh -ZF somepic.png -- :1 to have an image display on tty8 (needs feh installed)
[04:29] <kr> do i exit terminal, i had 1 new email
[04:30] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: Thanks, i'll try that
[04:30] <dazjorz> But, erm,..
[04:30] <dazjorz> that starts the X server ?
[04:30] <reka> kr: b/c you ran xlassie through terminal, it would probably close it if you exit
[04:30] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: you can run any app that way - yes it starts an xserver on tty8
[04:30] <dazjorz> I don't want that luxery to make the server even a bit slower
[04:30] <dazjorz> actually...
[04:31] <kr> maybe i can restart the computer and se what happens
[04:31] <reka> kr: i'll leave you to play with it.  if it's not good enough, try one of the others out there.
[04:31] <kr> thank you my friend
[04:31] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: is it possible to display an image without X-server
[04:31] <dazjorz> ?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: hmm - framebuffer I guess - never tried it
[04:32] <dazjorz> OK
[04:32] <dazjorz> Thanks for your help :)
[04:32] <dazjorz> !framebuffer
[04:32] <ubotu> dazjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> np
[04:34] <peter_> hello
[04:37] <asfra> hi, I'm using alsa as my sound output, but only one program can use it at one time. How can I fix that?
[04:37] <reka> !sound
[04:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:37] <reka> asfra: i used that.  ymmv
[04:38] <asfra> reka, I'm not following.. what do you mean?
[04:38] <reka> asfra: follow the link ubotu spat out
[04:38] <asfra> reka, ok
[04:39] <ZincX> is there a quicktime plugin ?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> !multimedia
[04:39] <ubotu> well, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[04:39] <Snippy> !ntfs
[04:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:39] <Subfix> Any experienced Ubuntu users care to give me hand with my USB mouse?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> ZincX: read ubotu 's URL
[04:39] <asfra> !sound
[04:39] <ubotu> well, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:39] <ZincX> thoreauputic, k
[04:40] <thoreauputic> ZincX: there are several ways to get quicktime working
[04:40] <thoreauputic> ZincX: you need w32codecs
[04:40] <Snippy> !love
[04:40] <ubotu> from memory, love is life
[04:40] <Snippy> lol
[04:40] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[04:40] <asfra> hehe
[04:40] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org )
[04:40] <asfra> !mplayer
[04:40] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:40] <Snippy> !hate
[04:40] <ubotu> Snippy: Wish i knew
[04:40] <kemik> !vlc
[04:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[04:40] <asfra> !women
[04:40] <Snippy> :D
[04:40] <ubotu> asfra: Are you smoking crack?
[04:41] <Snippy> !ccc
[04:41] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Snippy
[04:41] <Hg80> someone tell me what system monitor this is http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=17463&file1=17463-1.jpg&file2=17463-2.jpg&file3=17463-3.jpg&name=Metal4kde
[04:41] <kemik> apokryphos:  still like vlc? ;)
[04:41] <asfra> !marriage
[04:41] <ubotu> asfra: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:41] <apokryphos> kemik: decent enough, yeah. Realised yesterday that a friend of mine on Windoze uses it too
[04:41] <reka> guys, if you want to play with ubotu /msg it
[04:41] <asfra> !windows
[04:41] <ubotu> it has been said that windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[04:42] <eruin> lol, that looks like an apple computer gone bad
[04:42] <reka> stop spamming the channel
[04:42] <kemik> mmh it's multiplatform =)
[04:42] <Snippy> lol
[04:42] <anacron> help help, my usb mouse won't work anymore, what modules to load? i did modprobe usbhid already
[04:42] <asfra> reka:  sorry
[04:42] <kemik> hmm
[04:42] <kemik> !alternative
[04:42] <ubotu> from memory, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:42] <Subfix> anacron: My USB Mouse doesn't work either, but it never has..
[04:42] <Snippy> !cedega
[04:42] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:43] <Subfix> and I can't find any information regarding it...
[04:43] <ZincX> thoreauputic, is there quicktime plugin for firefox ?
[04:43] <Kyral> Has anyone tried EnlightenedGnome?
[04:44] <ZincX> thoreauputic, got it.. thanx :D
[04:44] <kemik> ZincX:  you should be able to play .mov files with either mplayer or videolan
[04:44] <Snippy> !windows
[04:44] <ubotu> I heard windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[04:44] <eruin> totem-xine and w32codecs = *bliss
[04:44] <traveller> there's a small beeping sound whenever a key is pressed, is there a way i can stop that?
[04:44] <kemik> eruin:  hardly.. try videolan instead
[04:45] <eruin> kemik, videolan doesnt supply a neat firefox plugin
[04:45] <eruin> that just works
[04:45] <kemik> dunno. i'm using mplayer as my firefox plugin
[04:45] <thoreauputic> kemik: people's experience varies with videolan/vlc - xine works best for me here for example
[04:45] <kemik> thoreauputic:  that's crazy-talk! :)
[04:45] <reka> traveller: sys > prefs > sound > system bell
[04:46] <thoreauputic> kemik: YMMV
[04:46] <asfra> !dvd
[04:46] <ubotu> it has been said that dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[04:46] <traveller> reka: it's not the system bell because it's coming from my speakers, and it beeps everytime a key is pressed, or the repeat starts to kick in
[04:47] <Subfix> just think of it as a typewriter feature :D
[04:47] <traveller> Subfix: it's getting annoying :/
[04:47] <Subfix> yeah. i'll bet. sorry I can't help :|
[04:48] <dazjorz> erm
[04:48] <dazjorz> how do I get a console that starts a specific order at boot
[04:48] <ompaul> what are the properties of the trash can on the panel?
[04:48] <guardianx> can some1 in here show me how nvtv work?? i could never get it to display on the tv propertly
[04:48] <Subfix> anyone know what the problem might be with my USB Mouse not doing anything at all? I've tried messing with the xorg.conf, but frankly I don't know what I'm doing all that well there.
[04:49] <dazjorz> for example, a virtual console that runs /bin/dothis
[04:49] <reka> ompaul: need more info
[04:49] <dazjorz> that you can access by pressing alt+f12
[04:49] <ompaul> reka, right click on the bin and tell me the command line that is used from the heading propertiex
[04:49] <ompaul> reka,  properties please
[04:50] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: I think you need to be logged in first
[04:50] <jsgotangco> hey all
[04:50] <guardianx> how do i make my unbunto box see my windows network??? ( my pc can see and wire files to my unbuntu box alredy )
[04:50] <_silvertear> hey, when i check mail in with kmail, i get Error Transmission Failed: could not lock /var/mail/silvertear.lock
[04:50] <reka> ompaul: there is no properties option available
[04:50] <thoreauputic> jsgotangco: hi there :)
[04:50] <dazjorz> threauputic: Ermm, it loads at boot.
[04:50] <reka> ompaul: it's probably just nautilus with directory set as ~/.Trash
[04:50] <jsgotangco> thoreauputic: hi!
[04:51] <_silvertear> what permissions should i cahnge to fix it?
[04:51] <jsgotangco> thoreauputic: err..shouldn't you be sleeping by now :)
[04:51] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: erm - how can anything be run until you have a shell ?
[04:51] <_silvertear> i did a sudo chmod +x /var/mail, but it didn't work
[04:51] <ompaul> reka, solved :) right clicked on panel and used Add to Panel - after that it was a matter of lock to panel
[04:51] <guardianx> ow do i make my unbunto box see my windows network??? ( my pc can see and write files to my unbuntu box alredy )
[04:51] <thoreauputic> jsgotangco: heh - of course ;)
[04:51] <Subfix> guardianx, which windows version?
[04:51] <reka> ompaul: then the question would've been, how do i add the trash can to the panel. :-/
[04:51] <_silvertear> guardianx: try looking at smb://workgroup/
[04:52] <Amaranth> Wow. That's the worst spelling of Ubuntu I've seen yet.
[04:52] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:52] <Subfix> amaranth, I have a habit of ubunto ...
[04:52] <ompaul> reka, well when you told me there were no properties I had to figure what was the next thing I would do, so I right clicked and it became obvious
[04:52] <guardianx> subfix - the pc workgoup name is goku ....... and it is on window xp
[04:52] <dazjorz> thoreaputic: I don't think you have to be logged in to execute a command. But, though, I just want alt+F12 to display an image. I already have a program that displays it. I want Alt+F12 do display that
[04:53] <_silvertear> maybe GET smb://guku/ ? i'm not sure though
[04:53] <kaffeend> Is there a default root password I can use to run an app?
[04:53] <kaffeend> to install rather
[04:53] <guardianx> silvertear - do i type that into  shell?
[04:53] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: you don't have to be logged in to run a command - I just don't know how you can get a display without a login: maybe it's possible, dunno
[04:53] <_silvertear> well i tried it, but i got that smb protocol not supported
[04:53] <_silvertear> so maybe try your web browser
[04:54] <_silvertear> if i put smb://workgroup/comp/sharedfolder i get like a ftp-type thing
[04:54] <asfra> !java
[04:54] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: I guess alt-F12 would be -- :5 though
[04:55] <_silvertear> any luck?
[04:55] <dazjorz> thoreaputic: I think I know how to connect a tty to a F-key
[04:55] <kaffeend> no bot?
[04:55] <dazjorz> errm /etc/inittab ?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: I'm not psychic and I don't know what you may or may not know - I was just trying to help
[04:56] <dazjorz>  ????
[04:56] <Subfix> Anyone have any ideas as to why my out-of-the-box USB mouse doesn't work in ubuntu?
[04:56] <dazjorz> thoreaputic ???
[04:57] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: sorry I thought you were pointing out that knowing -- :5 was tty12 was obvious: misunderstanding I guess
[04:57] <reka> Subfix: what model?
[04:58] <Subfix> reka: it's a logitech, i'm not sure of the model... I never paid attention to the model of my mouse... all I know is that it's a 2 button+scroll wheel(and button) optical mouse
[04:58] <dazjorz> thoreaputic: Sorry, since 3 sentances ago, I don't understand you anymore.. Could you explain ?
[04:58] <kaffeend> Is there a default root password I can use to install an app please, anyone?
[04:58] <Subfix> it's nothing fancy..
[04:58] <_silvertear> kaffeend: do you know about sudo?
[04:58] <reka> Subfix: tries unplugging it at boot, and then plugging it in after login?
[04:58] <guardianx> how do i view views on a window network the network name is  goku
[04:58] <reka> *tried
[04:58] <kaffeend> _silvertear yes kinda
[04:59] <kaffeend> _silvertear I'm a n00b
[04:59] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: I was just pointing out that (if) you wanted an x-server on tty12 it would be for example startx -- :5
[04:59] <Subfix> reka, no, but I have unplugged it/replugged it in.. only after it was all started up though...
[04:59] <_silvertear> "sudo synaptic" lets you install apps precompiled and configured for ubuntu
[04:59] <Subfix> reka: would I have to do that every time? :(
[04:59] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: I just found this in inittab: F-key : something :respawn: command
[04:59] <reka> Subfix: no, guess that's equivalent
[04:59] <kaffeend> _silvertear yup
[05:00] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: would that be: 12:23:respawn:/bin/showwarning
[05:00] <reka> Subfix: search ubuntuforums.org while you wait
[05:00] <_silvertear> hey, i'm a n00b too, i came here trying to find out how to fetch mail from /var/mail/silvertear
[05:00] <Subfix> reka: yeah I looked all of there and googled
[05:00] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: I'm not running X-window i think -- I'm trying to run an SDL application
[05:00] <guardianx> how do i view views on a window network the network name is  goku
[05:01] <Subfix> reka: i came here hoping for an answer, but I also have a post on the forum, hopefully someone'll help...   they had me paste my xorg.conf but no replies after that :)
[05:01] <kaffeend> _silvertear I'm specifically trying to install Enemy Territory on a amd64 system
[05:01] <digitalslave> anyone have sound issude with an audigy 2?
[05:01] <guardianx> how do i view files  on a window network the network name is  goku - ultimately i would like to watch movies file from there i dont want to download it to my ubuntu box
[05:01] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: I don't know anything about SDL except that it exists: something to do with games?
[05:01] <_silvertear> kaffeend: do you have the source?
[05:01] <digitalslave> sound is on and you can hear it thud when starting up but no sound in X
[05:01] <reka> guardianx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba maybe?
[05:01] <kaffeend> _silvertear I dunno
[05:02] <reka> Subfix: well, i'm not sure, sorry.  Good luck though, don't give up.
[05:02] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: I don't know much about SDL either, only that it has something with graphics,.. It can show a BMP file and it is for C++,
[05:02] <Subfix> reka: Thanks for the effort
[05:02] <guardianx> reka- i after reading that place i was able to make my window see the unbuntu box..... but i couldnt get my unbuntu box to see the windows pc... what did i do wrong?
[05:03] <kaffeend> _silvertear I just have what I d/loaded
[05:03] <_silvertear> is it in .tar.gz format?
[05:03] <reka> guardianx: wrong person to ask...i have no clue about networking
[05:03] <reka> digitalslave: not even syhstem sounds?
[05:04] <reka> *system
[05:04] <digitalslave> nope
[05:04] <digitalslave> just a terminal beep
[05:04] <kaffeend> _silvertear It's a shell script I think
[05:04] <kaffeend> .run
[05:05] <_silvertear> if .run is the filename, cd into that directory and do "./.run"
[05:05] <kaffeend> k
[05:06] <digitalslave> it does how ever recognize the sound card and sounds are enabled but no shound
[05:06] <Subfix> guardianx: XP Pro or Home? ... if XP try turning off 'simple file sharing'
[05:06] <guardianx> subfix i have win xp
[05:07] <Subfix> pro or home
[05:07] <_silvertear> digitalslave: i had that problem, i opened up kmix (kde mixer) and just turned on some dials, and it worked. did you try playing with the mixer?
[05:07] <guardianx> pro
[05:07] <digitalslave> yes mixer looks good
[05:07] <Subfix> disable 'simple file sharing' ... i read it on some forum concerning the topic
[05:07] <Subfix> in XP Pro that is... i'm not sure where it's at though :)
[05:07] <guardianx> :(
[05:07] <_silvertear> digitalslave: sry then i don't know. alsaconf and mixer are the only two things i know about sound on linux
[05:08] <_silvertear> ugh ugly underscore in name
[05:08] <priest> is there a way to start a program minimized in gnome?
[05:08] <guardianx> well right now my unbuntu box can ftp into my window box but in order to view the movie files it have to download the movie b4 opening it
[05:08] <Oniano|iBook> hey... http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2216
[05:08] <Oniano|iBook> could somebody have a look at that
[05:09] <Subfix> guardianx: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
[05:09] <Subfix> phft
[05:09] <Oniano|iBook> thats from /var/log/syslog just before gnome freezes
[05:09] <Oniano|iBook> during log in
[05:09] <Emanuelez> hello
[05:09] <digitalslave_> _silvertear you have an audigy2?
[05:09] <EasterSunshine> yep
[05:10] <djp> ,imagemagick
[05:10] <Emanuelez> i'm downloading hoary cd to install it on a presario r3000 notebook. is there anything i should be careful of?
[05:10] <digitalslave_> hmm dont know why it doesnt work
[05:10] <dazjorz> Can I get a C++ program to display an image fullscreen on the console ?
[05:10] <Subfix> Emanuelez: USB mice.   j/k
[05:10] <kaffeend> _silvertear I launched the game but it says "The recommended install colation (usr/local/games) requires root permissions." and asks for a password. That's where I'm lost :s
[05:10] <Snippy> Emanuelez, check if the hardware is compatible first
[05:11] <dazjorz> Can I get a C++ program to display an image fullscreen on the console,  W I T H O U T   X-window ?
[05:11] <reka> dazjorz: no
[05:11] <crashd> dazjorz: using framebuffer
[05:11] <reka> or maybe yes :)
[05:11] <dazjorz> chrasd: How do I put an image on the framebuffer ?
[05:11] <crashd> dazjorz: someone else will have already wrote it
[05:11] <Emanuelez> Snippy, as gar as i could find on google the main problem is the card readre but i don't care much about it
[05:11] <crashd> the program you seek
[05:11] <crashd> check freshmeat
[05:11] <crashd> or
[05:11] <sorush20> guys how do I hotplug a laserjet 1000 printer.. can anyone help please.. its just that this printer needs to have its firmware uploaded every time it tries to print..
[05:11] <crashd> google for "using the linux framebuffer"
[05:11] <dazjorz> crashd: Where do I find it ?
[05:11] <EasterSunshine> kaffeend: then try "sudo ./.run" but be careful, with sudo, the script can do anything to your comp
[05:12] <Snippy> Emanuelez, you may try with a live-cd of ubuntu first
[05:12] <jfk303> heyko_, I want to get the RubyOnRails framework, I read the easiest way is to download it using rubygems. Can I apt-get for RubyGems?
[05:12] <apokryphos> dazjorz: of course
[05:12] <EasterSunshine> you'll need your user password
[05:12] <bateau> hey! i got this problem with X, when i logg in, nothing happens. im now running in "safemode" or what its called. is there a way to reset X or somthing? i must have changed something, but i dont know what :x
[05:12] <jfk303>  I want to get the RubyOnRails framework, I read the easiest way is to download it using rubygems. Can I apt-get for RubyGems?
[05:12] <apokryphos> dazjorz: konsole, e/aterm etc etc
[05:12] <kaffeend> eastersunshine k...
[05:12] <digitalslave_> also cant find the kernel source anyway so i can install up to date nvidia drivers
[05:12] <Fire> so how do you start rc-sripts
[05:12] <Emanuelez> is it possible toinstall a lightweight window manager on ubuntu? something like xfce or icewm?
[05:12] <crashd> Emanuelez: read the howto/guide
[05:12] <Snippy> Emanuelez, yes
[05:12] <crashd> it tells you how to use xfce in there
[05:12] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: no, he means in a tty outside of X
[05:12] <Fire> I want start popfile, but it doesn't seem to start there
[05:13] <dazjorz> apokryphos: -.-' the console without any X-window. -.-'
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Emanuelez: sure
[05:13] <Emanuelez> cool
[05:13] <apokryphos> :|
[05:13] <Emanuelez> :)
[05:13] <kaffeend> eastersunshine says command not found
[05:13] <Snippy> ;)
[05:13] <reka> bateau: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <dazjorz> apokryphos: I said that.
[05:13] <Emanuelez> crashd, thank u :)
[05:13] <crashd> no's Emanuelez
[05:13] <crashd> np's, rather
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> did you sudo back into that same directory where .run was?
[05:13] <crashd> it's been a long time :\
[05:13] <bateau> thanx reka :D ill try it out
[05:13] <crashd> day! long day!
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> i mean, did you cd back into it?
[05:14] <EasterSunshine> or is sudo not found? cause if sudo is not found...then i don't think you are using ubuntu...
[05:14] <ouroboros1827> lol
[05:14] <Chousuke> dazjorz: With framebufer it is possible I guess.
[05:14] <Chousuke> dazjorz: using the fbi program
[05:15] <Chousuke> buffer*
[05:15] <kaffeend> eastersunshine um, sudo: ./.run: command not found
[05:15] <Chousuke> Damn I hate lag
[05:15] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: if you want to runs a .run file, either make it executable with chmod +x then run ./file.run, or run it with  sh file.run
[05:15] <EasterSunshine> he needs root permissions
[05:15] <kaffeend> thoreauputic thanks :P
[05:16] <digitalslave_> anyone know what the kernel source is called exactly?
[05:16] <LinuxJones> digitalslave, linux-source
[05:17] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: hey, long time no see :)
[05:17] <digitalslave_> thanks - yippie now nvidia graphics here i come
[05:17] <Subfix> hmm
[05:18] <EasterSunshine> hey, anyone how to fix it that kmail complains: cannot lock /var/mail/silvertear?
[05:18] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, hi where have you been :)
[05:18] <apokryphos> digitalslave_: you can just apt for it
[05:18] <digitalslave_> if you know what its called
[05:18] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: I was off for a few months (exams), but I've been back now for at least a month or so. :)
[05:18] <digitalslave_> installing with synaptic right now
[05:18] <kaffeend> thoreauputic I'm just getting stuck on: ----- Client Initialization Complete -----
[05:18] <kaffeend> ----- R_Init -----
[05:18] <kaffeend> ...loading libGL.so.1: Received signal 11, exiting...
[05:18] <apokryphos> digitalslave_: the nvidia driver, that is.
[05:19] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, I hope everything went well.
[05:19] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: that's a segfault - a crash
[05:19] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: not too bad, I thought. Will find out on the 18th. Missed a lot while I was away, but have catched up pretty much now. Where've you been?
[05:19] <kaffeend> thoreauputic I can see that ;)
[05:19] <Snippy> hey LinuxJones ;)
[05:19] <digitalslave_> upgrading to 7667 from nvidia site - faster than common 7174
[05:20] <guardianx> is there a good newsreader for ubuntu???
[05:20] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: a segfault usually means a bug in the program, so.... you may be out of luck: did you prepend "sudo" ?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> guardianx: pan
[05:20] <EasterSunshine> guardianx: pan
[05:20] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, I have been working my skinny behind off 10 hours a day doing manual labour...rather tired when I get home each night :D
[05:20] <guardianx> do i have to install pan ?
[05:20] <apokryphos> digitalslave_: could you LMK if that goes alright? =)
[05:21] <apokryphos> digitalslave_: may do it as well
[05:21] <EasterSunshine> sudo apt-get install pan?
[05:21] <digitalslave_> LMK?
[05:21] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: it's all worth it when the pay-check comes
[05:21] <digitalslave_> let me know - oh yeah
[05:21] <kaffeend> thoreauputic no, I just double-clicked the et.sh file I'd already unpacked LOL
[05:21] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, true but I hurt my back on wednesday and it's not getting much better :(
[05:21] <digitalslave_> look like i will have to install at run level 1 - hopefully the right services will be running
[05:21] <ZincX> hey.. i dont have mplayer-386
[05:21] <ZincX> on my list
[05:22] <guardianx> after i run the command sudo apt-get install pan ....... how do i get pan to run??
[05:22] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: darn :(. Lift from the feet. My dad has slight back-injuries too. Can be a dodgy business.
[05:22] <EasterSunshine> type in pan maybe
[05:22] <EasterSunshine> into a shell
[05:22] <digitalslave_> type pan
[05:22] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: you don't want to run et as root, that's for sure - so don't run it with sudo ;)
[05:22] <LinuxJones> guardianx, hit alt + F2 then type pan (it will auto-complete for you)
[05:22] <digitalslave_> should pauto complete after apt
[05:22] <EasterSunshine> or you can probably find it in applications://
[05:22] <reka> ZincX: enable multiverse
[05:22] <kaffeend> thoreauputic I don't?
[05:23] <ZincX> reka, i think its enabled
[05:23] <charlonet> slt
[05:23] <EasterSunshine> i mean, programs://
[05:23] <dazjorz> The installation of Flash Player asks me for a browser path, what do I fill in for Konqueror ?
[05:23] <digitalslave_> grr need sound so i can play games :(
[05:23] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, I'm sure i have just strained a muscle but it sucks ;)
[05:23] <charlonet> ya quelqu'un qui parle franais ici
[05:23] <thoreauputic> kaffeend: erm - you don't run apps/games as root, no
[05:23] <reka> ZincX: double check
[05:23] <apokryphos> Indeed.
[05:23] <dazjorz> charlonet: un peu
[05:23] <charlonet> ok
[05:23] <reka> !fr
[05:23] <thoreauputic> kafeine: I thought you were still installing it
[05:23] <ubotu> [fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:23] <kaffeend> thoreauputic ok then
[05:23] <charlonet> j'ai besoin d'aide
[05:23] <dazjorz> !nl
[05:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, dazjorz
[05:24] <charlonet> pr installer kde
[05:24] <dazjorz> !nl
[05:24] <charlonet> sur ubuntu
[05:24] <dazjorz> he doesnt even know dutch
[05:24] <SudoPus> Hey all....looking for specific information using Ubuntu/Kubuntu to rip and transcode dvd...Googling only reveals outdated information...and I don't want to chance mixing deb packages that are not packaged for Ubuntu...any suggestions?
[05:24] <dazjorz> !nl
[05:24] <thoreauputic> charlonet:  /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:24] <dazjorz> !dutch
[05:24] <ubotu> I don't know, dazjorz
[05:24] <charlonet> klk pourrai m'aider
[05:24] <dazjorz> pff
[05:24] <digitalslave_> should i install libesd-also0 for the audigy2?
[05:24] <dazjorz> Where is Konqueror installed ?
[05:24] <digitalslave_> it would remove libesd0
[05:24] <ZincX> reka, its in /etc/apt rite ?
[05:24] <Booster> Yo
[05:24] <LinuxJones> dazjorz, in console type whereis konqueror
[05:25] <thoreauputic> charlonet: tu pourras trouvez de l'aide en francais sur le canal #ubuntu-fr
[05:25] <dazjorz> thanks, linuxjones
[05:25] <thoreauputic> *trouver
[05:25] <apokryphos> dazjorz: all over the place. Why?
[05:25] <reka> ZincX: soureces.list? yes
[05:25] <Booster> Hey, in wine, it complains that it can't find DLLs. How can I tell it their in the same directory as the EXE?
[05:25] <charlonet> merci
[05:25] <ZincX> reka, #deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:25] <chtank> I am having all kinds of problems with Synaptic, I will wait for my new install cd and install it, then try again
[05:26] <ZincX> i shud enable that line ? is it ?
[05:26] <dazjorz> linuxjones / apokryphos: The Flash installation program asks me for a directory where Konqueror is installed. /usr/bin/konqueror says that that is not a directory, /usr/bin tells me that its not a valid path
[05:26] <charlonet> slt
[05:26] <charlonet> merci
[05:26] <reka> ZincX: er, think that's backports ... hang on
[05:26] <Subfix> anyone have any tips for getting my USB mouse to work ?
[05:26] <apokryphos> dazjorz: to get flash running on Konqueror just install flashplayer-mozilla
[05:26] <firestorm> Hi. How can I see if sendmail is installed from the command line?
[05:26] <leon> I installed a firewire card in my PC. Kino says that raw1294 module isnt installed or that /dev/raw1394 isnt rewritable. How do I find out what the problem is and how do I fix this? Thank you.
[05:26] <chtank> thanks for your help guys, but synaptic used for Ubuntu does not pick up all the required dependancies
[05:26] <reka> ZincX:
[05:27] <reka> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[05:27] <reka> deb-src ftp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[05:27] <dazjorz> apokryphos: E: Could not find package flashplayer-mozilla
[05:27] <dazjorz> !flashplayer
[05:27] <ubotu> dazjorz: I haven't a clue
[05:27] <apokryphos> dazjorz: enable Multiverse
[05:27] <chtank> see you later
[05:27] <dazjorz> !search flashplayer
[05:27] <ubotu> dazjorz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:27] <dazjorz> !find flashplayer
[05:27] <apokryphos> dazjorz: well, Universe actually
[05:27] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[05:27] <apokryphos> heh, I guess not
[05:27] <reka> ZincX: might want to remove the au if you want
[05:27] <dazjorz> Apokryphos: Thought I had that already..?
[05:27] <LinuxJones> dazjorz, install them into your /home/user/.mozilla/plugins folder then tell konqueror to look in there for the plugins
[05:27] <apokryphos> ubotu: Multiverse is not enabled, no, if you don't find it.
[05:27] <ubotu> ...but multiverse is already something else...
[05:27] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: anything non-free like flash --> multiverse
[05:28] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: it does that automatically ;-)
[05:28] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: yah
[05:28] <Fire> can anyone run popfile?
[05:28] <unsec1> I am still having problems getting this wecam to go. But making progress. My tail of woe is shown here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=290518#post290518
[05:28] <unsec1> webcom
[05:28] <unsec1> webcam
[05:28] <Fire> I'm looking for people who have it working
[05:29] <dazjorz> LinuxJones / Apokryphos: I changed sources,list, the cdrom was at the top and now its commented, but still it can't find the package flashplayer-mozilla
[05:29] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, it's been a long time since I ran kde and am going from memory...which is not working too well ATM :)
[05:29] <apokryphos> dazjorz: no, you have to add the Universe repository. Uncomment the line with "multiverse"
[05:29] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: you can configure konq plugins from the konq preferences - ther's a plugin dialogue in there somewhere
[05:29] <firestorm> Hi. 'apt-get install qmail' doesn't work. Any hints?
[05:29] <apokryphos> dazjorz: or, add "multiverse" to the line that has "universe"
[05:29] <Subfix> Anyone use a basic USB mouse that could privmsg me their xorg.conf mouse section or somethin'? :D
[05:29] <dazjorz> Apokryphos: OK
[05:30] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: pretty well, I'd say. That would be the process for some other plugins, indeed ;-)
[05:30] <ZincX> reka, no luck
[05:30] <thoreauputic> Subfix: a USB mouse should "just work" as soon as you plug it in...
[05:30] <kestas> how do I enable the NX bit in Hoary?
[05:30] <Subfix> thoreauputic: : Yeah... so I heard .. doesn't seem to be the case for me though. I don't know why
[05:31] <thoreauputic> Subfix: :( hmmm
[05:31] <dazjorz> Apokryphos: Hoppa, it works, thanks
[05:31] <Subfix> thoreauputic: it's quite annoying, I want to try Ubuntu instead of this Mandriva...
[05:31] <leon> How do I install new pci cards?
[05:31] <apokryphos> dazjorz: cool. As a note, you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC
[05:31] <Doomhammer> leon: google for "installing PCI cards howto"
[05:31] <thoreauputic> Subfix: I would assume this is handled by hotplug... dunno
[05:32] <guardianx> man this is my last day with linux........ i'm goin  back to windows.... i cant fight the system * frown *
[05:32] <dazjorz> apokryphos: Huh ? Thanks, I didnt know that.
[05:32] <Doomhammer> gaurdianx: noooo! don't go back to the Dark Side!
[05:32] <apokryphos> dazjorz: it comes in very handy, yup :)
[05:32] <guardianx> i spend days tryijng to get the movies out to the tv and i cant
[05:33] <dazjorz> apokryphos: It doesnt work for my own username :S
[05:33] <Fire> sigh, gentoo is complicated, but ubuntu is all shiny, but lacks in apps :/
[05:33] <dazjorz> dazjorz
[05:33] <dazjorz> huh :S
[05:33] <apokryphos> dazjorz: the client makers presuppose that you won't be talking to yourself ;-)
[05:33] <leon> How do I install the firewire module?
[05:33] <guardianx> i install nvtv was able to get the  the tv out to work but could never get the movie to fit in the tv........
[05:33] <Doomhammer> Fire: well then install some apps
[05:33] <thoreauputic> guardianx: something to do with v4l - video for linux? Just guessing
[05:33] <Doomhammer> leon: it should already be installed
[05:34] <guardianx> thorea - i'm jus trying to view movies on the tv
[05:34] <digitalslave_> i have sound!!!!!!!!!
[05:34] <guardianx> i could never get the whole movie to fit on the tv
[05:34] <digitalslave_> audigy 2 was stuck on digital instead of analog
[05:34] <guardianx> it is always too big
[05:34] <digitalslave_> sheesh
[05:34] <Fire> Doomhammer some apps aren't in apt-get ^^
[05:34] <dazjorz> Why do I have to use sudo apt-get and not just apt-get
[05:34] <dazjorz> Cant I give myself access to the lockfile ?
[05:34] <guardianx> i'm jus about to reboot and head back to the windows camp i jus cant fight the system
[05:35] <guardianx> *frown *
[05:35] <Fire> like that ivan rpg game thingy
[05:35] <unsec1> I just tried my webcam with VLC for gtk+ and my screen went black
[05:35] <m0td> > abi@smaug:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:35] <m0td> > FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:35] <m0td> > abi@smaug:~$ apt-get install linux-source
[05:35] <unsec1> couldn't alt tab backspace out of it either
[05:35] <apokryphos> dazjorz: installing packages is a system-wide thing, hence -- root privileges
[05:35] <m0td> hey guys, I'm trying to get ndiswrapper working. When I run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" at the command line, though, I get this error:
[05:35] <m0td> (the one above)
[05:35] <m0td> sorry for the multiline
[05:35] <apokryphos> m0td: apt-cache search linux-source   -- then select your relevant one
[05:35] <delire> anyone interested in a Firefox speedup should look here. it really works: http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-5810446.html?tag=nl.e011
[05:36] <m0td> yeah, as you can see I just tried downloading it as I came in here ;-)
[05:36] <m0td> I'm getting it now
[05:36] <m0td> thanks apokryphos
[05:36] <Subfix> well. I'm off to try and figure out this mouse some more :D
[05:36] <m0td> wow... I could get used to conversation
[05:36] <m0td> I'm an old xchat fiend, but I just gave it a try when I started setting my sister's computer up with ubuntu
[05:36] <digitalslave_> now if i can figure out how to install deb files i'll be rocking (used to use mandrake until it was too out of date)
[05:36] <guardianx> bye my fellow linux user but i'm going back to the dark side.....  i was a linux user for two days........
[05:37] <apokryphos> m0td: [k] onversation ;-)
[05:37] <m0td> lol
[05:37] <apokryphos> guardianx: adieu
[05:37] <delire> hehe
[05:37] <m0td> ^_^
[05:37] <thoreauputic> guardianx: give it a few weeks before you give up :)
[05:37] <m0td> :yeahthat:
[05:37] <delire> guardianx: good luck
[05:37] <m0td> will I need to reboot after install the linux source pacakge?
[05:37] <kestas> deserters are shot
[05:37] <m0td> will I also need linux headers?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> guardianx: see you when you get sick of bondage ;)
[05:37] <m0td> the modprobe is still erroring
[05:38] <m0td> thoreauputic: masochism too ;-)
[05:38] <apokryphos> m0td: are you following the wiki on how to install it?
[05:38] <dazjorz> is there a KDE SSH client ?
[05:38] <guardianx> i jus cant get  the dam nvtv to to work propertly. cant get it the movies to fit neatly on the tv. and i cant find help for it
[05:38] <djp> thoreauputic: lol
[05:38] <m0td> apokryphos: I was, but it didn't say anything about the linux headers/source
[05:38] <Fire> so has anyone here used popfile on ubuntu?
[05:38] <m0td> or I just didn't read carefully
[05:38] <apokryphos> m0td: I have no idea if it does; just noticed you were trying to install linux-headers
[05:38] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: use konqueror - type fish://hostname
[05:39] <avsrer> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu Hedgehog and have problems with my resolution. I am using a laptop and I know that I should run 1400x1050, but it is currently set to 1024x786, and when I try to change the screen gets messy.. any other resolution that the one in use now is messy
[05:39] <digitalslave_> guess it's time to install nvidia drivers then
[05:39] <digitalslave_> see you guys in a few
[05:39] <apokryphos> dazjorz: available kioslaves in Konqueror: ftp/sftp/fish
[05:39] <delire> m0td: no you won't need to reboot. you'll need to unpack the package 'cd /usr/src && sudo tar xvjf linux-source-$(uname -r).tar.bz2'
[05:39] <djp> guardianx: i used it a while back, when i sold my soul and installed the nvidia non-free driver. i'm sure there is some sort of configuration where you can move the picture around...
[05:39] <Fire> avsrer menu system/preference/resolution
[05:39] <m0td> delire: thanks, that's what I needed
[05:39] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: It tells me it can't connect to the IP address
[05:40] <Fire> avsrer thats the name of the program to change your resolution
[05:40] <m0td> well... I had better try it first ;-)
[05:40] <guardianx> djp i'm sure there is but it is so hard to find help on the linux side
[05:40] <dazjorz> Could not connect to host
[05:40] <avsrer> Fire, I'm able to change it but the screen is all messy when I change it
[05:40] <unsec1> Sorry to repeat. and for anyone joining my Logitech Webcam tale of woe can be seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54854
[05:40] <HiddenWolf> Is anyone here familiar with fsck, and how to use it to fix a messed up pc?
[05:40] <apokryphos> dazjorz: type fish://username@hostname
[05:40] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: is there a server running at that IP ? (for ssh)
[05:40] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: Think so, yes
[05:40] <m0td> delire: man, that's clever how you stuck that command in there so you didn't have to tell me to figure out my linux version ;-)
[05:40] <delire> m0td: of course you can just use a root nautilus session and right click 'extract' the archive ;)
[05:40] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: I'll check
[05:40] <guardianx> the dark side everything works----- but i have to admit the unbuntu is the best flavor out of linux distro
[05:40] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: try apokryphos 's suggestion
[05:40] <m0td> nautilus... *shudder*
[05:40] <Fire> avsrer so 1400x1050 is messy?
[05:40] <guardianx> and i tried red hat, suse, and fedora
[05:41] <m0td> guardianx: those all suck
[05:41] <guardianx> but the dark force is too strong
[05:41] <delire> m0td: yeah a good trick.
[05:41] <Fire> guardianx whats the problem
[05:41] <m0td> man, I have GOT to get capslock bound to control ><
[05:41] <avsrer> Fire, yes.. same with others I've tried as well.. I*m sure 1400x1050 should be good with this screen though 'cause I've used it before
[05:41] <delire> guardianx: windows was too much work for me. too hard.
[05:41] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: not sure why, but around 1/20 (for me) it won't load it without specifying the username
[05:41] <dazjorz> apokryphos / thoreauputic: No, same problem. On the SSH server I can do ssh localhost, which works.
[05:42] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, what's wrong with your filesystem ?
[05:42] <guardianx> fire - i'm trying to view my movies on the tv.... but when i use nvtv to switch to tv mode.. the picture is too big..
[05:42] <apokryphos> dazjorz: try ftp://username@localhost
[05:42] <avsrer> Fire, I had to use another screen during install 'cause this screen was black.
[05:42] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, you having trouble booting ?
[05:42] <reka> avsrer: tried this?
[05:42] <reka> !fixres
[05:42] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:42] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: trying to figure it out. it won't boot.
[05:42] <dazjorz> apokryphos / thoreauputic: Sorry, my bad. How do I reconfigure the network on the server, it has DHCP and I want it to be static.
[05:42] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, does it come up with any errors or does the system just lock up ?
[05:43] <Rebecca> does ubuntu use x.org by default?
[05:43] <m0td> ok, I untarr'd the linux source, but I'm still getting the error
[05:43] <Fire> sorry guardianx, I haven't played with that
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: yes
[05:43] <Fire> :/
[05:43] <djp> guardianx: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/29/2147241&mode=thread
[05:43] <avsrer> Okay I'll check out the howto, thanks!
[05:43] <Rebecca> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[05:43] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: a bunch of I/O buffer errors on a load of blocks, then a message to do it manually
[05:43] <HiddenWolf> s/do/fix
[05:43] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, sounds like your hard drive is dying
[05:43] <apokryphos> dazjorz: on your computer?
[05:43] <Rebecca> does ubuntu have a stable AMD64 port?
[05:44] <m0td> > abi@smaug:/usr/src$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:44] <m0td> > FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:44] <m0td> > abi@smaug:/usr/src$
[05:44] <m0td> ><
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: it does
[05:44] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: fortunatlly it's not mine. Any idea if there is anything I can do?
[05:44] <m0td> abi@smaug:/usr/src$ ls /usr/src
[05:44] <m0td> linux-source-2.6.10  linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2  rpm
[05:44] <m0td> I've got it untarred, as you can see
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: a bit limited in the multimedia area though
[05:44] <delire> incredible. this is important work: http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party/
[05:44] <Rebecca> thoreauputic: how come?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: codecs etc
[05:44] <dazjorz> apokryphos: what is the command to reconfigure network? netcfg ?
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: anything 32 bit requires a chroot
[05:45] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, do you have an ubuntu live cd ?
[05:45] <apokryphos> dazjorz: no idea. For setting up my dhcp I always use dhclient
[05:45] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: man interfaces
[05:45] <Rebecca> thoreauputic: im currently using debian-amd64, and was looking for something a bit multimedia friendly
[05:45] <Rebecca> bit more*
[05:45] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, or any livecd for that matter
[05:45] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: yeah, it took 15 minutes to boot on this old pc, and then was totally unusable /slow/
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Rebecca: I haven't used it - someone else might know more
[05:46] <Rebecca> ok
[05:46] <m0td> does anyone else have some suggestions?
[05:46] <m0td> x_x
[05:46] <thoreauputic> bye all
[05:46] <apokryphos> 'night thoreauputic :)
[05:46] <m0td> bubye
[05:46] <Doomhammer> night?
[05:46] <Doomhammer> WTF?
[05:46] <m0td> thanks for trying to help me
[05:46] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: night :)
[05:46] <delire> Rebecca: Mepis has all codecs (win32 codecs, Java, flash et al) running out of the box, albeit this makes it very 'non-free'
[05:46] <Doomhammer> i just woke up O_o
[05:46] <m0td> Doomhammer: different tz stupid ;-)
[05:47] <Rebecca> delire: ok, ill take a look
[05:47] <m0td> tz==timezone
[05:47] <jonnnn> hi
[05:47] <m0td> I should have clarified
[05:47] <m0td> jonnnn: hi
[05:47] <Doomhammer> m0td: yea, but what time zone is that? china?
[05:47] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, argh, if you can boot into the livecd you could run a file check on your partitions but I lost a hard drive 2 months ago and had the same errors :(
[05:47] <apokryphos> Rebecca: MEPIS is nce too, but far smaller development team (and community) in comparison to ubuntu, unfortunately
[05:47] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: what is there that I *could* try, and how do I figure out what caused this. It's not worth fixing a dying drive, for instance
[05:48] <Chaotic_Shield> hey everyone
[05:48] <jonnnn> i just install realplayer when i tries to play a MP3 with it, it just stuck then i have to forcefully kill the realplayer process
[05:48] <delire> Rebecca: it's a KDE/Debian based distribution. not as popular as Ubuntu (and certainly has less integrity) but a very slick distribution regardless.
[05:48] <jonnnn> any idea where i'm doing any possible mistake
[05:48] <reka> jonmasters: *cough* by playing mp3s with realplayer
[05:49] <reka> jonnnn rather
[05:49] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, if you boot into the Ubuntu install cd hit ctrl+alt+F2 and see if you can access fsck from that terminal. If you can you will be able to check the drives from there.
[05:49] <znh> Random Fortune: Never make any mistaeks. 	-- Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report
[05:49] <znh> sorry
[05:49] <jonnnn> reka, yep I wana play all my illegal MP3s with realplayer or alteset to hear online music
[05:49] <Subfix> When Ubuntu is loading I get this error scrolling like 8 times:  modprobe : FAILED : could not load /lib/modules/2.6.11-6mdk/modules.deb no such file or directory          could this be why my USB mouse isn't working? ...what exactly is it anyways?
[05:49] <reka> jonnnn: try a 'killall esd' before starting rp
[05:50] <apokryphos> jonnnn: there's better players
[05:50] <Doomhammer> Subfix: yea, that's probobly it... those are kernel modules that it isn't loading, similar to "drivers" for WinBlows
[05:50] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: booting now (it's an old laptop from my neighbour)
[05:50] <Chaotic_Shield> jonnnn, check out !mp3
[05:50] <Chaotic_Shield> !mp3
[05:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[05:50] <reka> jonnnn: but yeah, what apokryphos said
[05:50] <guardianx> what is the pw for root??
[05:50] <HiddenWolf> !sudo
[05:50] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:50] <apokryphos> guardianx: no root; use sudo
[05:50] <Subfix> Doomhammer: Ah, I thought they had to do with drivers... I've installed it twice and had the same error... is there a way to download modules.deb alone so I can stick it in?
[05:51] <Vital303> alsaconf returns
[05:51] <Vital303> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[05:51] <Doomhammer> Subfix, hmm, not that I know of :/
[05:51] <guardianx> but in order for me to install the nvida driva it say i need root access
[05:51] <Subfix> crikey
[05:51] <Subfix> Doomhammer: out on a limb here, but do you think you could supply it? ....
[05:51] <deFrysk> Vital303, try alsactl
[05:51] <apokryphos> Vital303: what are you trying to do? alsamixer perhaps
[05:52] <HiddenWolf> guardianx: sudo gives you root acces for only those operations that need it. using it is much safer
[05:52] <Doomhammer> Subfix: sure, i'll look if I have one... but it might screw you up -- you're on x86 right?
[05:52] <Vital303> alsactl: Specify command...
[05:52] <HiddenWolf> guardianx: read the rootsudo wiki page
[05:52] <Subfix> Doomhammer: yeah I am, but hey it's worth a shot :D
[05:52] <apokryphos> Vital303: as I said, what is it you're trying to do?
[05:52] <apokryphos> HiddenWolf: all very debatable, of course =)
[05:52] <Vital303> apokryphos: I want to detect my sound card
[05:52] <Marve> help me
[05:52] <HiddenWolf> guardianx: and the nvidia-drivers will be installed for you if you install linux-restricted-modules, without any messing about
[05:52] <[NL] Zaggy> hi
[05:53] <HiddenWolf> apokryphos: bah, everything is debatable
[05:53] <Doomhammer> Subfix: hmm, that dir doesn't exist... you're on ubuntu right ? :S
[05:53] <delire> hehe. name space not wide enough.
[05:53] <apokryphos> Vital303: you don't use that; though I don't know how to do it
[05:53] <Subfix> Doomhammer: indeed, latest one too.. just d/led the ISO off the main site about 2 days ago
[05:53] <HiddenWolf> Marve: try describing the problem, then asking for help. ;)
[05:53] <reka> next!
[05:53] <Vital303> I have no sound
[05:53] <Marve> thanks reka ;)
[05:53] <Marve> I'm trying to make ubuntu find my PCMCIA-card..
[05:53] <apokryphos> HiddenWolf: not really; I'm talking about a substantiated discussion from either side
[05:54] <Doomhammer> Subfix: well mine definately won't work, we're using different versions of the kernel... i have 2.6.10 but you have 2.6.11
[05:54] <ZincX> can someone give me multiverse lines :S
[05:54] <apokryphos> !sources
[05:54] <ubotu> [sources]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be fount at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:54] <Marve> I've used ndiswrapper and tried to install the windows-drivers
[05:54] <Subfix> Doomhammer: i see. thanks for the attempt..
[05:54] <jonnnn> !mp3
[05:54] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[05:54] <[NL] Zaggy> How do I mount my usb hddcase?
[05:54] <jonnnn> heh
[05:54] <HiddenWolf> apokryphos: yeah, well. There is substantiated debate about a load of things. Including which distro rocks hardest. :)
[05:54] <Doomhammer> Subfix: np, i'm sure someone else has a 2.6.11 kernel if you want to try :/
[05:54] <apokryphos> HiddenWolf: there is. And? :S
[05:54] <Marve> but when I write Ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom0/blahblah.inf it says "driver already installed"
[05:55] <_abi> ok guys, I'm still getting "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted" when I try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[05:55] <jonnnn> Chaotic_Shield okay not mp3 but how to hear online music without realplayer?
[05:55] <Marve> _abi, me too!
[05:55] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to braodcast music with Ubuntu over the net?
[05:55] <reka> jonnnn: most players can stream music
[05:55] <HiddenWolf> apokryphos: just tell people what's the way you do it, or you believe it's best, and if it's muddy, tell em to form their own opinion. :)
[05:55] <delire> Marve: ndiswrapper can be a right pain the farce.
[05:55] <m0td> lol Marve :(
[05:55] <m0td> this is VERY annoyoing
[05:55] <m0td> I have linux-source installed
[05:55] <apokryphos> HiddenWolf: point is, sudo and su use the same security system; so in general they're both subject to the same flaws and strengths
[05:56] <jonnnn> reka, i'm asken about listening from web browser
[05:56] <m0td> and untarred
[05:56] <Marve> when I write ndiswrapper -e blahblah.inf it says "blahblah.inf is not installed"
[05:56] <watanabe88> may i ask for assistance with Limewire install
[05:56] <Subfix> Doomhammer: I just mounted the ubunto drive to mandriva and searched and found modules.deb in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386    ...does that mean anything to you? :P
[05:56] <HiddenWolf> apokryphos: true, but ubuntu seems to like sudo, so i'll just piont anyone to that wiki page.
[05:56] <Doomhammer> Subfix: you found modules.deb on the ubuntu system, or the mandriva system?
[05:57] <reka> jonnnn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[05:57] <m0td> YES
[05:57] <Subfix> Doomhammer: ubuntu... but wait. it's .dep ...wtf is .dep? ...
[05:57] <m0td> I got it!!!
[05:57] <apokryphos> HiddenWolf: I wasn't arguing with that, at all :). I like sudo (I prefer it). Your point that it was more secure was questionable. Heh, this has gone on          -_)
[05:57] <cute_bettong> i want to stream music so people can listen to it ^_^ how do i do it?
[05:57] <apokryphos> damn you evil keyboard
[05:57] <Doomhammer> Subfix: LOL! no idea, but a .deb is a package -- whe you apt-get something, it downloads the .deb and isntalls it
[05:57] <[NL] Zaggy> How do I mount my usb hddcase?
[05:57] <Subfix> Doomhammer: yeah. this is weird :(
[05:58] <watanabe88> in installed Limewire using the ubuntu unofficial help directions and also installed Java
[05:58] <Marve> I think there is a mount manager
[05:58] <dazjorz>  I'm bored. Now I've installed Linux on my PC and i've got nothing to do -.-'
[05:58] <watanabe88> still limewire will not launch
[05:58] <leon> cant setup my firewire card/camcorder to capture. Modules installed at bootup
[05:58] <[NL] Zaggy> could anyone give me a hand at mounting my usb hddcase?
[05:58] <apokryphos> watanabe88: what's the error message?
[05:59] <Subfix> Doomhammer: is .ko a driver file?
[05:59] <jonnnn> reka, okay thanks
[05:59] <watanabe88> there is no error message apokryphos
[05:59] <apokryphos> watanabe88: type limewire in terminal
[05:59] <Doomhammer> Subfix: yea, that's a kernel module... same with .so and .o
[05:59] <dazjorz> Jesus, now I've installed Ubuntu on my own computer and .. i'm BORED.... -.-'
[05:59] <watanabe88> when i click on limewire icon nothing happens
[05:59] <Subfix> Doomhammer: ok. modules.dep is a text files full of paths to .ko files etc.
[06:00] <znh> dazjorz: learn how to program in python, it's the best way to waste your time ^_^
[06:00] <watanabe88> i typed limewire in terminal and it says command not found
[06:00] <kr> i have installed xlassie notifier, but how do i get it to work whith mozilla mail,
[06:00] <Doomhammer> watanabe88: it's having an error... you should try starting it in a console, and look at what it spits out
[06:00] <apokryphos> watanabe88: you didn't follow the instructions correctly, then.
[06:00] <LinuxJones> dazjorz, that means you've got a good operating system that you don't have to dick around with :)
[06:00] <dazjorz> Lol
[06:00] <dazjorz> Hey By the way
[06:00] <apokryphos> dazjorz: install KDE ;-)
[06:00] <znh> LinuxJones: maybe that's why windows (was) so popular :-P
[06:00] <dazjorz> apokryphos: xP already have that
[06:01] <dazjorz> I'm using Konversation so...
[06:01] <LinuxJones> znh, :)
[06:01] <watanabe88> okay apo, i've tried it 3 times using the ubuntu unofficial directions
[06:01] <apokryphos> dazjorz: kdelook.org, then :P
[06:01] <dazjorz> apokryphos: now I did fish://root@192.168.1.10 and i'm connected,..... and
[06:01] <watanabe88> run it in console?
[06:01] <znh> dazjorz: me 2 using konversation :)
[06:01] <apokryphos> dazjorz: cool
[06:01] <znh> dazjorz: have you seen OSD? - it is really awesome
[06:01] <Doomhammer> so does anyone know why I would be having VERY low sound quality in KDE?
[06:01] <dazjorz> apokryphos: now I can't use any console,... only like browse it
[06:01] <watanabe88> how do i do that?
[06:02] <znh> Doomhammer: lower your master and pcm to 70%
[06:02] <apokryphos> dazjorz: ? to use console... use the console and ssh
[06:02] <watanabe88> Doomhamer, how do run in console
[06:02] <cute_bettong> so anyone know how to stream music to the internet using Ubuntu?
[06:02] <cute_bettong> or some program?
[06:02] <dazjorz> Apokryphos: I actually meant, with a SSH program for KDE, not SFTP but really SSH
[06:02] <Doomhammer> znh: i don't see that in the control center :/
[06:02] <apokryphos> watanabe88: you've done something wrong, clearly.
[06:02] <znh> Doomhammer: typ alsamixer or kmix in a terminal
[06:02] <kr> anyone?????? how to get email notifier xlassie to work whith my mozilla mail?????
[06:03] <znh> hmm.. what device is my usb stick?
[06:03] <apokryphos> dazjorz: what exactly would that mean :| why can't you use the console?
[06:03] <Chaotic_Shield> Ping from kornbluth.freenode.net: 175ms
[06:03] <twistedpair> hi
[06:03] <dazjorz> apokryphos: Cuz I like nice layouts ;)
[06:03] <watanabe88> apo, someone said run in console
[06:03] <apokryphos> dazjorz: oh -- Window -> Show Terminal Emulator
[06:03] <cute_bettong> so no one knows huh?
[06:03] <watanabe88> okay, if i did something wrong, can you point out the correct way of install?
[06:04] <Doomhammer> znh: oh, wow, sweet
[06:04] <watanabe88> please
[06:04] <apokryphos> dazjorz: ...I guess. Still not sure what an ssh application client entails :|
[06:04] <Doomhammer> znh: i didn't even know alsamixer exsted :P
[06:04] <dazjorz> apokryphos: Thanks a lot, that was exactly where I was looking for!!
[06:04] <apokryphos> cool :)
[06:04] <znh> Doomhammer: It's quite nice indeed
[06:05] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: still about?
[06:05] <apokryphos> watanabe88: just follow *exactly* what they say, and LMK if there is an error on any part
[06:05] <kr> hallooooooooo ! i am so close but not quite there yet, i have to get the notifier to work in my email client
[06:06] <apokryphos> watanabe88: if it *ever* says "error"
[06:07] <[NL] Zaggy> How do I mount usb devices in Ubuntu?
[06:07] <watanabe88> The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do.
[06:07] <dazjorz> Is it OK if I install RPM files with Ubuntu ?
[06:08] <watanabe88> Archive:  LimeWireOther.zip
[06:08] <apokryphos> dazjorz: for small ones, generally yes. Convert them to .deb with alien then dpkg -i
[06:08] <HiddenWolf> dazjorz: not recommended at all, do at own risk, and only if there is no other way
[06:08] <deFrysk> dazjorz, only if you try to break the system its fine
[06:09] <apokryphos> watanabe88: keep going
[06:09] <watanabe88> sudo gedit /usr/bin/runLime.sh
[06:10] <watanabe88> saved the editted file
[06:10] <firestorm> What is a simple way to see whether Package X is installed or uninstalled?
[06:10] <dazjorz> lol, I got 3 advices
[06:10] <watanabe88> oh prior to that i also used the sudo chown ...command
[06:10] <dazjorz> 1 = Yes
[06:10] <dazjorz> 2 = Sometimes
[06:10] <dazjorz> 2 = Not really
[06:10] <Chaotic_Shield> firestorm, dpkg -l <package name>
[06:10] <seanpatrick> This may sound stupid but i followed the instrustions on ubuntuguide.org for the libdvdcss2 libary but it cant find it in the repos and im stuck please help?
[06:10] <watanabe88> sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/runLime.sh
[06:10] <firestorm> Chaotic_Shield: thanks :)
[06:11] <HiddenWolf> dazjorz: if you can avoid it, don't
[06:11] <cute_bettong> is there a way to braodcast music to the internet using Ubuntu?
[06:11] <HiddenWolf> dazjorz: and don't be suprized if hell breaks loose
[06:11] <watanabe88> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/LimeWire.desktop
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> yes cute_bettong
[06:11] <cute_bettong> something gui based
[06:11] <watanabe88> saved the editted file
[06:11] <cute_bettong> how?
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> nothing gui based.
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> sorry.
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> well
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> actually
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> maybe icecast
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> check it out
[06:11] <Chaotic_Shield> it's in the repos.
[06:11] <cute_bettong> well if it's easy
[06:11] <cute_bettong> i can do it text based
[06:12] <watanabe88> killall gnome-panel
[06:12] <watanabe88> okay
[06:12] <seanpatrick> This may sound stupid but i followed the instrustions on ubuntuguide.org for the libdvdcss2 libary but it cant find it in the repos and im stuck please help?
[06:12] <HiddenWolf> I'm booted on a livecd now. I need to fix my / which started fscking with I/O buffer errors. What can I do?
[06:12] <watanabe88> no error messages
[06:12] <dazjorz> Can't I make it so that if I use apt-get, that it automatically changes that into sudo apt-get ?
[06:12] <watanabe88> as i indicated, java is already installed
[06:12] <Chaotic_Shield> dazjorz, not afaik.
[06:12] <reka> seanpatrick: need to enable the repo that has it
[06:12] <dazjorz> !afaik
[06:12] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, dazjorz
[06:12] <dazjorz> ? ?
[06:12] <seanpatrick> what repo has it?
[06:13] <cute_bettong> and i have icecast i just don't know how to use it
[06:13] <seanpatrick> i enabled all of them that i kno of the un commenting
[06:13] <cute_bettong> it quits something about a config file
[06:13] <watanabe88> if i i go in firefox i see the java script console under tools
[06:13] <deFrysk> afaIk is as far as I know
[06:13] <dazjorz> Chaotic_Shield: Afaik? I mean only for the user dazjorz (thats me).
[06:13] <reka> seanpatrick: going from this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia hoary-extras
[06:13] <reka> !sources
[06:13] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be fount at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:13] <Chaotic_Shield> dazjorz, afaik == as far as I know.
[06:15] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, what kind of partitions do you have ?
[06:15] <black13> i have build the debian packages for xorg now i want to install them
[06:15] <shinshi> I just installed Ubuntu (Hoary Hedgehog) on a Ferrari 4000 laptop, it installed fine but when I get to what is apparently the login prompt, the screen goes blank.
[06:15] <znh> shinshi: what's the maximum supported resolution?
[06:15] <black13> i am use to using apt-get install deb ... but how do i install the debs that have been built?
[06:16] <deFrysk> black13, dpkg -i blah.deb
[06:16] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: it's one ext3 partition
[06:17] <black13> deFryk i got that
[06:17] <cute_bettong> >.< icecast is kinda difficult and it's not only text based
[06:17] <black13> deFryk i guess my question is one of dependencies
[06:17] <shinshi> znh: While I was configuring the resolutions for x during the setup, the max resolution I selected was 1024x768
[06:17] <shinshi> znh: it's a widescreen and I don't remember the max resolution of the display
[06:17] <znh> shinshi: hmm, I heard you problem more (nelson had it too, he fixed it)
[06:17] <digitalslave_> anyone know why my net connection does not reconnect on boot
[06:18] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, ok fsck -t ext3 /dev/hdax    with hdx being your partition number like hda1.
[06:18] <Fanskapet> digitalslave_ what type of "net connection" ?
[06:18] <digitalslave_> have to system/admin/network and deactive then active to get a connection
[06:18] <deFrysk> black13, if you run into dep probs it might not be a compatible .deb otehrewist it will tell you what deps it needs
[06:18] <digitalslave_> eth0
[06:18] <seanpatrick> root@SeanPatrick:/home/seanpatrick # sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 Reading package lists... Done
[06:18] <seanpatrick> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:18] <seanpatrick> You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[06:18] <seanpatrick> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:18] <seanpatrick>   fglrx-control: Depends: xorg-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed or
[06:18] <seanpatrick>                           xfree86-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed
[06:18] <seanpatrick> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:18] <black13> deFryk apt-get install method would state "you need this and that deb yes or no" how do i get the same behavoir
[06:18] <apokryphos> seanpatrick: please don't flood the channel
[06:18] <Fanskapet> digitalslave_ what says ifconfig?
[06:19] <watanabe88> apokryphos, any clues
[06:19] <reka> shinshi: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:19] <deFrysk> black13, make a repo on your harddrive
[06:19] <Fanskapet> and what says the syslog upon booting?
[06:19] <seanpatrick> what does all that mean tho?
[06:19] <apokryphos> watanabe88: on?
[06:19] <deFrysk> and add it to synaptic
[06:19] <watanabe88> why limewire still will not launch
[06:19] <watanabe88> despite following directions on ubuntuguide.org
[06:20] <digitalslave_> does gnome have network hotplugging?
[06:20] <reka> seanpatrick: use a normal terminal
[06:20] <Fanskapet> of course
[06:20] <reka> seanpatrick: not a root one
[06:20] <apokryphos> watanabe88: in terminal: /opt/LimeWire/runLime.sh
[06:20] <Fanskapet> digitalslave_ but what does ifconfig say??
[06:20] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: running
[06:20] <black13> repo?
[06:20] <digitalslave_> net worked wonky in mandrake until i disabled that
[06:20] <black13> deFryk repository ?
[06:20] <deFrysk> black13, =repository
[06:20] <shinshi> reka: thanks for the tip
[06:20] <digitalslave_> says i have eth0 and lo up now
[06:20] <shinshi> let me try that
[06:21] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, hopefully your hd is not borked and things will get sorted out :)
[06:21] <apokryphos> watanabe88: no wait, ignore that.
[06:21] <Fanskapet> digitalslave_ yes but directly after bootup
[06:21] <seanpatrick> i still get the same thing
[06:21] <watanabe88> oh wait, i have some info
[06:21] <apokryphos> watanabe88: heh, no, do try that. What happens?
[06:21] <black13> deFryk so have a line in sources.list deb /some/path/to/my/stuff
[06:21] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: getting "ignore error(y)?' messages
[06:21] <watanabe88> it did say that Java exec not found in path
[06:21] <digitalslave_> dunno :) both were listed in network and supposedly active but all traffic was on lo
[06:21] <watanabe88> okay
[06:22] <watanabe88> well, i need to reinstall java then
[06:22] <alf2> .
[06:22] <lui> hello people
[06:22] <apokryphos> watanabe88: enable hoary-extras and then apt for it
[06:22] <watanabe88> ok, well i've already downloaded it
[06:22] <deFrysk> black13, not sure how to do it but it should be somewhere in the docs of debian.org or in the wiki of ubuntu
[06:22] <musashi> hullo
[06:22] <apokryphos> watanabe88: much easier to apt for it
[06:22] <watanabe88> hoary extras
[06:23] <apokryphos> watanabe88: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:23] <gpd> anybody use a chroot breezy for bleeding edge stuff?
[06:23] <unsec1> I finally got my webcam to go! Thats everything. Time to write my Dear Bill letter....
[06:23] <apokryphos> watanabe88: add that to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, hit no so you can see the errors
[06:23] <seanpatrick> the package manger shows up with the libdvdcss2 now but terminal doesnt sya it has it
[06:23] <black13> gpd i have been farting around with building chroots
[06:23] <digitalslave_> the network monnitor states eth0 is disconnected right now :(
[06:24] <unsec1> Dear Bill, Your computer operating system is no longer required. Get you pink slip and get out!
[06:24] <alankelon> hello
[06:24] <digitalslave_> network settings states as active
[06:24] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, if those I/O errors start coming up your drive is shot
[06:24] <firestorm> after uninstalling and re-installing postfix I get: /etc/postfix/postfix-script   I'd already rm -r /etc/postfix directory after uninstall and a re-install obvipously didn't re-create the files...any hints?
[06:24] <gpd> black13: I think Xen might be an alternative - but seems excessive
[06:24] <dazjorz> does compiling of OpenSSL take long ?
[06:24] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: error while scanning inodes(#) Can't read next inode, aborted
[06:24] <gpd> black13: or maybe just pin the package I want
[06:24] <reka> seanpatrick: can't understand you
[06:24] <watanabe88> okay i will use synaptic
[06:24] <watanabe88> i did search for java and found all kinds of associations
[06:24] <seanpatrick> when i try to have apt-get  go find libdvdcss2 it cant find it
[06:24] <watanabe88> i will just select all of them to install
[06:24] <watanabe88> let me see
[06:25] <znh> !gnome
[06:25] <ubotu> znh: No idea
[06:25] <alankelon> I installed ubuntu right now and I can't change root password
[06:25] <seanpatrick> but when i searched the synaptic packages it showed up after i added a repo off that one site
[06:25] <digitalslave_> go to root shell and type passwd
[06:25] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, the only thing left to try is re-formating the partition
[06:25] <alankelon> I'm trying `sudo passwd root' without success
[06:25] <HiddenWolf> alakon, ubuntu disables sudo at default
[06:25] <HiddenWolf> !sudo
[06:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:25] <alankelon> sudo is asking me some password
[06:25] <h08817> acpi or apci i got this error when installing
[06:25] <h08817> amd64 version
[06:25] <h08817> didn't work
[06:25] <windex> alan_, enter _your password_ when sudo asks for the password. sudo operates on user passwords and an access control file.
[06:25] <wezzer-> would some one post _original_ /etc/apt/sources.list -file to pastebin
[06:25] <alankelon> ops
[06:25] <wezzer-> ?
[06:25] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: how do I figure if the drive is dying, or it's just some fuckup by ext...?
[06:26] <alankelon> it's my password
[06:26] <digitalslave_> applications>system>root terminal then type passwd
[06:26] <alankelon> I'm sorry
[06:26] <h08817> my install for some reason doesn't work
[06:26] <reka> seanpatrick: er, so what happens now when you try and install?
[06:26] <h08817> any reason why?
[06:26] <windex> alankelon, np :)
[06:26] <alankelon> :D
[06:26] <alankelon> bye
[06:26] <h08817> i got it from ubuntu site and burned it with nero
[06:26] <seanpatrick> it says that fglrx-control: Depends: xorg-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed or
[06:26] <seanpatrick>                           xfree86-driver-fglrx but it is not going to be installed
[06:26] <windex> i will never understand why so many experienced linux users do not understand sudo.
[06:26] <h08817> i guess i have to get a live cd
[06:27] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, being a journaled file system I am thinking the drive is shot but you can re-format the partition during a re-install of Ubuntu.
[06:27] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: and end up in the same situation a week from now?
[06:27] <dazjorz> how long does compiling of openssl take ?
[06:27] <MrRagga> hi, where can i get komba2 or Linneighbourhood? krusader is missing, too?
[06:27] <digitalslave_> or sudo -i
[06:28] <HiddenWolf> dazjorz: why would you want to compile it?
[06:28] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, once the installer starts to format the partition (if the drive is going tits up) the installer will fail then you'll know for sure.
[06:28] <dazjorz> MrRagga: Try this: sudo apt-get install linneighbourhood
[06:28] <HiddenWolf> dazjorz: speed of compiling is depending on your cpu, of course
[06:28] <dazjorz> HiddenWolf: Because Perls Net::SSLeay needs it to be compiled and not get
[06:28] <dazjorz> HiddenWolf: On Pentium 4, 2.4 gHz
[06:28] <dazjorz> i don't have to know it exactly
[06:29] <dazjorz> but I want to know if its 10 minutes or a few hours
[06:29] <HiddenWolf> dazjorz: I've never compiled it, but not long.
[06:29] <dazjorz> OK, thanks.
[06:30] <HiddenWolf> LinuxJones: thanks
[06:31] <lui> people, how do i know how many space is left in the hard drive?
[06:31] <reka> seanpatrick: what dependencies does libdvdcss2 have?  can you apt-cache show it and see if the fglrx packages are in there?
[06:31] <reka> lui: df -h
[06:31] <tonii> How do I mount a SMB share with mount? i've forgotten the syntax :)
[06:31] <lui> ok reka
[06:32] <apokryphos> lui: for a beautiful way of doing it: filelight
[06:32] <seanpatrick> apt-cache libdvdcss2  <--type that?
[06:32] <apokryphos> apt-cache search :)
[06:32] <apokryphos> search/show/etc
[06:32] <seanpatrick> libdvdcss2 installed somewat it installed but there is no sound with the video
[06:33] <lui> apokryphos: is that like widgets?
[06:34] <seanpatrick> libdvdcss2 Depends: libc6 Conflicts: <libdvdcss0.0.1> Conflicts: <libdvdcss0.0.2>
[06:34] <apokryphos> lui: it's an application
[06:34] <reka> seanpatrick: using totem?
[06:34] <h08817> ok everyone i get this error when installing ubuntu amd64 edition
[06:34] <seanpatrick> xine
[06:34] <h08817> Unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[06:34] <h08817> any ideas?
[06:34] <lui> ok
[06:35] <lui> thx
[06:35] <reka> seanpatrick: try a 'killall esd'
[06:35] <apokryphos> lui: it's the repos, if you want to try it out... personally quite like it. It's best for telling you exactly where your space is going
[06:35] <LinuxJones> HiddenWolf, good luck :)
[06:35] <h08817> do i have a bad version of ubuntu or what happened?
[06:36] <seanpatrick> oi did the killall esd and mplayer opened and my speakers poped
[06:36] <reka> seanpatrick: mplayer opened when you did the killall?
[06:36] <seanpatrick> yea
[06:37] <reka> well, geeze you've been having some weird behaviour
[06:37] <lui> apokryphos: it eats much memory?
[06:37] <seanpatrick> should i reinstall and try again?
[06:38] <h08817> help if possible please
[06:38] <delire> seanpatrick: strange goings on there..
[06:38] <tonii> how do i search for applications via apt-get?
[06:38] <synd> apt-cache search <app>
[06:38] <reka> h08817: search ubuntuforums.org  i recall someone asking about acpi/apic
[06:39] <apokryphos> lui: for the beginning search, I'd guess
[06:39] <tonii> ah, thanks =)
[06:39] <synd> tonii: but id use synaptic to do a better search :)
[06:39] <sproingie> or use aptitude
[06:39] <seanpatrick> is there any sort of restore button\command for ubuntu? - startfroma clean slate
[06:39] <tonii> synd: hm, trying to find mplayer and joe :P
[06:39] <bretzel> Hello, trying to compile bzflag source but it cannot find "gl.h" header file ... this is supposed to be the openGL dev main header file but cannot find any of the devlib about opengl...
[06:39] <sproingie> aptitude doesn't search descriptions tho, which is annoying
[06:39] <synd> synaptic > aptitude
[06:39] <Subfix> Anyone know anything about 'version magic' errors during booting? (x: version magic '2.6.10-5-386 preempt 386 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.11-6mdk 686 gcc-3.4') where x = various things such as 'apm' ...
[06:39] <tonii> synd: thought apt-get to get apps remote :)
[06:39] <anacron> is it good to have all hardware what you are going to use in while you install the system? or is it for an example faster to install if you have only those componets what are required to make system work?
[06:39] <sproingie> seanpatrick: other than reinstalling, no
[06:40] <lui> apokryphos: o thanks ;)
[06:40] <lui> apokryphos: ok thanks ;)
[06:40] <seanpatrick> alright i suppose ill reinstall and try again
[06:40] <reka> bretzel: install freeglut3-dev
[06:40] <bretzel> reka: thanks :-)
[06:40] <seanpatrick> thanks for the help
[06:40] <reka> bretzel: why are you compiling from source though?
[06:40] <h08817> i can't install ubuntu using the amd64 version can I use i386 instead
[06:40] <reka> bzflag's in the repo already
[06:41] <h08817> or will it not work?
[06:41] <anacron> h08817: sure you can
[06:41] <h08817> even on an amd computer
[06:41] <h08817> or i mean processor
[06:41] <tonii> synd: to get joe and mplayer on my ubuntu, do I need to dowload the source and compile them then?
[06:41] <reka> bretzel: bzflag's in the repo already
[06:41] <bretzel> reka: 1.xx yes, but 2.02 is not -- and btw, freeglut3-dev  IS installed.... ???
[06:41] <sproingie> h08817: what doesn't work on the amd64 version?
[06:41] <Stormx> tonii: no.
[06:41] <Stormx> tonii: Use synaptic.
[06:41] <reka> bretzel: oh
[06:41] <tonii> no such packages there
[06:42] <Stormx> tonii: Tried apt-get?
[06:42] <reka> bretzel: locate gl.h
[06:42] <tonii> yes
[06:42] <bretzel> thus must be current bzflag sources screwed tho...
[06:42] <Stormx> tonii: Can you download a debian?
[06:42] <Stormx> (.deb)
[06:42] <anacron> h08817: if you use 64bit version you can't use example flash, and other "important stuff"
[06:42] <h08817> sproingie,  when i go to install it (boot to cd) it runs through a lot of stuff and then i get this error Unlunk after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC Settings may help
[06:42] <tonii> Stormx: don't know, what are you reffering to?
[06:42] <oonoon> when trying 'cfdisk' on a non-root user account, i get a 'fatal error : can't open disk unit', is that a bug ?
[06:42] <bretzel> nothing with locate nor slocate ...
[06:42] <sproingie> h08817: weird ... what brand of motherboard?
[06:43] <h08817> anacron,  so i386 version is better
[06:43] <bretzel> duh ?
[06:43] <Stormx> tonii: If you get a debian package of it, then run "dpkg -i <package name>"
[06:43] <tonii> ah.
[06:43] <h08817> sproingie, msi
[06:43] <reka> oonoon: probably not.  you probably need 'root' priviliges
[06:43] <Stormx> That will install it straight off, no compiling
[06:43] <anacron> h08817: "better" yes, in my point of view it's still better (but least upgrade for 686 version)
[06:43] <tonii> Stormx: what about depencies and stuff? :)
[06:43] <Stormx> oonoon: try "sudo cfdisk"
[06:43] <h08817> where is the 686 version
[06:43] <h08817> ?
[06:43] <Stormx> tonii: Should be covered, but not automatic.
[06:43] <h08817> anacron, is it just on the site under download?
[06:43] <oonoon> reka, but why a fatal error , i would expect a 'permission denied' blabla
[06:43] <anacron> h08817: you can update it after the installation
[06:43] <pirkkko> i've got a question.
[06:44] <bjoern_> me too
[06:44] <erisco> has anyone got wine to work with adobe photoshop 6.0 before? I can't get it to work....
[06:44] <pirkkko> suprise
[06:44] <h08817> o ok
[06:44] <bretzel> find / -name gl.h gives: /usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h
[06:44] <tonii> Stormx: damnit :P
[06:44] <anacron> pirkkko: read the topic "just aks"
[06:44] <anacron> ask*
[06:44] <pirkkko> :D
[06:44] <oonoon> Stormx, this works fine, i know, im just curious about this error
[06:44] <Stormx> tonii: It will tell you if it lacks a package
[06:44] <sproingie> h08817: what's your acpi settings in the bios look like?  i'm not sure the ia32 version will do much better,  though i suppose you could try it
[06:44] <bjoern_> want to run X :1& but then: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. - any idea, wasnt a problem in other linux systems i had
[06:44] <tonii> Stormx: yeah, i guessed that :)
[06:44] <Stormx> ^_^
[06:44] <bretzel> thus means bzflag screwed... it cannot configure X11 headers locations...
[06:45] <reka> oonoon: dunno, maybe the developers set the error output
[06:45] <anacron> bjoern_: try to change permissions somehow, or maybe add the user in to group which can use x
[06:45] <Stormx> oonoon: You're not gonna be able to modify partitons without root.
[06:45] <Stormx> oonoon: That would be damn stupid if you could.
[06:45] <erisco> thanks anywas
[06:45] <reka> bretzel: if you installed the freeglut pack.  you should have /usr/include/GL/gl.h
[06:45] <oonoon> Stormx, yeah, i know, but the error within the program, and not directly from the terminal is weird, i think
[06:46] <Stormx> o.O I dunno then
[06:46] <Stormx> let me see.
[06:46] <coolpix> testen
[06:46] <pirkkko> My ubuntu freezes in 10minutes when surfing with firefox/opera/epiphany. What to do?
[06:46] <reka> bretzel: actually, not true
[06:46] <Stormx> oonoon: I think the opening of the disk is stopped further down the line, but an error message is not given by that.
[06:46] <Stormx> oonoon: Therefore, cfdisk doesn't know WHY it can't open the HDD
[06:46] <tonii> Stormx: can you reach the site www.mplayerhq.hu ?
[06:47] <oonoon> Stormx ok
[06:47] <Stormx> tonii: No its down.
[06:47] <tonii> blah
[06:47] <anacron> pirkkko: maybe you have to limit your surfing? :D is your system update?
[06:47] <\\Neo> hi, i'm trying to get my wlan card working with ndiswrapper. but how can i remove these old acx100 drivers?
[06:47] <pirkkko> :D
[06:47] <synd> i have a person here claiming that YDL can support the Airport Express card
[06:47] <anacron> \\Neo: have you used ndiswrapper for them?
[06:47] <\\Neo> no
[06:47] <synd> he is utterly wrong, right?
[06:47] <pirkkko> 10 minutes limit is quite cruel.
[06:47] <reka> bretzel: my mistake....wrong package
[06:47] <\\Neo> ubuntu installed them by default
[06:48] <Stormx> \\neo: You shouldn't have to remove them, just select the new ones.
[06:48] <pirkkko> abacron: it should be.
[06:48] <bretzel> reka: hahaha
[06:48] <\\Neo> and where? :/ i only see the acx100 stuff at iwconfig
[06:48] <pirkkko> *anacron
[06:48] <Stormx> \\Neo, I'm not sure.
[06:49] <anacron> pirkkko: yeah, i really dunno, have you tryed google or wiki... oh right, i might be hard you can only surf for 10min :D
[06:49] <\\Neo> well i would be happier if i could remove that acx100 drivers anyway
[06:49] <coolpix> re
[06:49] <Stormx> rofl!
[06:49] <\\Neo> they are accessing the same hardware
[06:49] <pirkkko> anacron :p
[06:49] <\\Neo> that must be weird
[06:49] <\\Neo> and prolly the reason why ndiswrapper doesnt work
[06:50] <anacron> pirkkko: are you from finland?
[06:50] <pirkkko> yep
[06:50] <reka> bretzel: sorry. :)
[06:50] <reka> bretzel: you need xlibmesa-gl-dev
[06:50] <anacron> isn't that a bit shamefull, linux is made in finland?
[06:50] <Harold> Bloody hell
[06:50] <anacron> and you can't use it properly
[06:50] <reka> damn. http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is really useful. :)
[06:50] <_NeLLY_> nes.si
[06:50] <pirkkko> anacron, it is D:
[06:50] <bretzel> (not related) - BTW, That is funny I had to install libtool pkg eventhough all dev pkg installed
[06:50] <anacron> just kidding...
[06:50] <Stormx> anacron: linux was STARTED in finland.
[06:50] <Harold> Morning, everyone.  Do English people really say "Bloody hell"?
[06:51] <Stormx> Harold: yes
[06:51] <anacron> Stormx: yeah, and only the kernel is "original"
[06:51] <bretzel> reka: ok for xlibmesa-gl-dev thanks :-)
[06:51] <highvoltage> Harold: yes, they do. they are rude people.
[06:51] <Harold> Stormx: Thanks, Stormx
[06:51] <Stormx> xD
[06:51] <Harold> highvoltage: Rude?
[06:51] <Stormx> I'm british.
[06:51] <Harold> anacron: Did you get that wifi working with madwifi?
[06:51] <anacron> no i didn't
[06:51] <reka> Stormx: 3 runs!
[06:51] <highvoltage> Harold: sometimes.
[06:51] <Harold> anacron: What did you do?
[06:51] <Stormx> reka: waaa?
[06:51] <anacron> Harold: i got mad like the drivers
[06:52] <anacron> Harold: im installing ubuntu again right now
[06:52] <_NeLLY_> arnes.si
[06:52] <bretzel> reka: bad news for bzflag 2.02 sources: their configure script is totally screwed: I do have xlibmesa-gl-dev
[06:52] <Harold> anacron: I know the feeling.  Just keep at it.  I got so frustrated 'cuz it took so long to get it working on my old Mac.
[06:52] <reka> Stormx: actually, 2 runs!
[06:52] <Harold> anacron: Okay
[06:52] <anacron> Harold: i had to change my system hardware a bit
[06:52] <reka> bretzel: maybe change the configure presets then?
[06:52] <Harold> anacron: What did you have to change?
[06:53] <anacron> Harold: hard-disk's :D
[06:53] <synd> does any distro of linux support Airport Extreme?
[06:53] <synd> any at all?
[06:53] <synd> YDL?
[06:53] <synd> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-June/014534.html
[06:53] <anacron> synd: what is it?
[06:53] <Harold> anacron: I see
[06:53] <reka> Stormx: not a cricket fan then?
[06:53] <anacron> Harold: i also added an soundcard and tv-card
[06:54] <Harold> anacron: Gonna watch tv on your pc, huh?  :)
[06:54] <lenoxmo> nick fiona
[06:54] <Harold> anacron: Does that work alright?  (The tv?)
[06:54] <synd> anybody?
[06:54] <synd> anacron: ?
[06:54] <anacron> Harold: yes and no, this machine is for my lil sister :D
[06:54] <mjr> synd, most likely not
[06:54] <Harold> anacron: Ah.
[06:55] <anacron> Harold: i don't watch tv
[06:55] <Harold> anacron: I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on my old Powermac now...
[06:55] <synd> mjr: i got a YDL supporter here that pointed me to here> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-June/014534.html
[06:55] <anacron> Harold: but it worked with mandrake like a year ago, so i guess why wouldn't it work in ubuntu
[06:55] <synd> and that baffles me
[06:55] <Harold> anacron: Why wouldn't it?
[06:56] <Harold> anacron: I'm sure it'll work...
[06:56] <anacron> Harold: that was my question
[06:56] <digitalslave_> yeah should
[06:56] <anacron> Harold: :D but maybe i said something wrong, im too tired
[06:56] <digitalslave_> old mandrake user myself
[06:56] <bretzel> reka: anyway bzflag is not a vital thing .... I just hate failure :-)
[06:56] <Harold> anacron: I mean, I'm not *absolutely* sure, but there seems to be alot of support for Ubuntu
[06:56] <anacron> yeah...
[06:56] <digitalslave_> ubuntu is miles ahead of drake - thats why i switched
[06:57] <anacron> should we stop chitchatting and leave space for those who need help :D
[06:57] <Harold> anacron: Anyway, I was just checking in to #ubuntu...
[06:57] <Harold> anacron: Yeah, probably
[06:57] <Harold> anacron: Nice chatting with you!
[06:57] <anacron> you too
[06:59] <reka> bretzel: you should have /usr/include/GL/gl.h if you had that last package though
[06:59] <twistedpair> synd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=862
[06:59] <Syco54645> anyone here use urlfilter with ipcop or smoothwall?
[06:59] <inconnu> hello
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Moo
[07:00] <dazzed> does anyone know of a sammple .Xdefaults i can steal to make one since i dont have one?
[07:00] <inconnu> i have a problem with my tv-tuner card :( i have a very good screen but not sound :(, when i whrite dmesg tuner in my consol i have: saa7134[0] /audio: audio carrier scan failed, using 5.500 MHz [default] 
[07:00] <inconnu> help me pleaseeee :(:'(
[07:01] <inconnu> (i'm belgian, sorry for my english ;))
[07:02] <Syco54645> or hell does anyone know of a good blacklist?
[07:03] <twistedpair> inconnu: have you got sound in other apps?
[07:03] <delire> Syco54645: Hell has it's own blacklists
[07:04] <inconnu> with a cd or an mp3?
[07:04] <twistedpair> inconnu: yes anything
[07:04] <kingscsi> hi
[07:04] <inconnu> yes, i have
[07:04] <Syco54645> delire, i just read what i said to see if your comment would make sence.... and it didnt.  that is sad i wanted to laugh ;)
[07:04] <beetle> got error starting up my computer. grub loading fails with error no 17. have windows xp on c: drive, and ubuntu on other partition. this error occured after a disk partitioning
[07:05] <kingscsi> can anyone help me with port redirecting?
[07:05] <inconnu> just for wtach tv i don't have sound
[07:06] <kingscsi> i want to keep my apache on 80 but somehow get the ubuntu box to redirect traffic from a port like 8080 to 80
[07:06] <mjr> beetle, if you moved partitions around or added a partition before the linux partition, grub probably needs to be reinstalled
[07:06] <kingscsi> anyone here from South Africa?
[07:06] <delire> Syco54645: ;)
[07:06] <Syco54645> delire, know of a good black list?
[07:06] <delire> Syco54645: for IP's?
[07:06] <beetle> added a partition befor linux partition. how to reinstall or remove grub?
[07:07] <Syco54645> delire, yeah, i just want to block ads on my network here... it is 5 people on a 4 megabit connection, so ads get annoying when they need to be loaded
[07:07] <mjr> beetle, with grub-install
[07:07] <delire> Syco54645: and you can't avoid downloading them with firefox addblock?
[07:08] <Subfix> Can anyone running 5.04 do me a favor and tell me the name of the directory inside of /lib/modules ? (2.6.10-5-386 or 2.6.11-6mdk) (fresh install..?)
[07:08] <delire> Syco54645: i think firefox, if you use that has extensions for blacklisting.
[07:08] <kingscsi> anyone any ideas for me port redirect mission?
[07:08] <inconnu> delire, tu es belge?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> theres a few ad-killig proxies out there. and firefox has a nice adblock extension.
[07:09] <Mez> had anyone had any experience with cedega on breezy?
[07:09] <reka> adblock.mozdev.org
[07:09] <delire> inconnu: non
[07:09] <Syco54645> delire, not everyone on the network uses firefox... the one is an ididot english majour so
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> thers always some of the huge ad-killing hosts files also out.
[07:10] <inconnu> ok ;)
[07:10] <reka> Syco54645: what do they use then?
[07:11] <anacron> dillo is very light option
[07:11] <anacron> also it sounds sexy like dildo
[07:11] <irbdavid> where can i find out if ubuntu supports my digital camera?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:11] <kingscsi> lol
[07:11] <terminalspin> Hi all! - Has anyone had any problems with network printing and the gnome printers window not appearing?
[07:11] <anacron> irbdavid: the ubuntu site, wiki or perhaps forums
[07:11] <Kirsch> irbdavid: what camera do u have?
[07:12] <irbdavid> Sony DSC T1
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> irbdavid,  well most mondern camera work as usb-hard drives - could test the ubuntu live cd see if it sees the cam.
[07:12] <Kirsch> oh ok, yea check the wiki, i was just curious, ihave a cannon that works fine
[07:12] <Kirsch> Is Breezy kinda stable again?
[07:12] <Kirsch> i heard that she was acting up last week...
[07:12] <irbdavid> its pretty modern.  it didnt work with suse last time i tried ~ version 9.0/.1 i think
[07:13] <Kirsch> i have no idea, check to see if there are drivers for it yet
[07:13] <Kirsch> check the wiki and google
[07:13] <booman> how do I add programs to be run at boot?
[07:13] <Kirsch> booman: in gnome?
[07:13] <Syco54645> reka, internet explorer, which is why i want to block the ads on the router
[07:13] <Syco54645> reka, its also just nicer to do it that way
[07:13] <linukso> irbdavid: it works!
[07:13] <hi-fi_dk> hi, where does ubuntu install kernel source ?
[07:13] <kingscsi> my router suck ballz, have to reboot anytime i do port mapping
[07:13] <linukso> irbdavid: check out gphoto.org
[07:14] <irbdavid> cool, thanks linukso
[07:14] <booman> Kirsch: at boot like in slack you can put the stuff in rc scripts
[07:14] <irbdavid> gphoto part of the default install with ubuntu?
[07:14] <Kirsch> yea, you can still do that.
[07:14] <booman> ?
[07:15] <linukso> irbdavid: just put it in ptp mode, it is somewhere in your cameras setup menu. And yes, ubuntu has got gphoto.
[07:15] <Kirsch> You want to start a service at startup?
[07:15] <irbdavid> beans, i'll d/l ubuntu then
[07:15] <booman> Kirsch: yeah all I wanna run is 'athcool on'
[07:15] <hi-fi_dk> ubuntu and kernel source anyone ?
[07:15] <Stormx> xD Reka, i get ya now.
[07:15] <crispynix-v6> Kirsch: Xorg is still broken
[07:16] <irbdavid> whats ptp mode mean, you reckon?
[07:16] <akaihola> OpenOffice segfaults in my Hoary. The problem is outside OOo, since 3 different versions behave identically. How do I verify that all my installed packages are OK (like rpm -V on redhat)?
[07:16] <Kirsch> What specifically? I haev to rebuild my driver anyway. (my Video)
[07:16] <Stormx> Guys, i've got the biggest moral decision to take in my entire life...............................
[07:16] <Stormx> Go back onto winblows and get soldat 1.3, or stay on sexy ubuntu?
[07:16] <crispynix-v6> Kirsch: hang on, I'll update then check again
[07:16] <Kyral> The Red or Blue Pill?
[07:16] <Stormx> That too.
[07:16] <Kyral> Soldat 1.3? Wazzat?
[07:16] <Kirsch> Red
[07:17] <booman> Can someone tell me how to add 'athcool on' to run at boot
[07:17] <beetle> how to steb by step reinstall the grub loader?
[07:17] <Kyral> Stormx, surely you can emulate it in WINE
[07:18] <Kyral> !grub
[07:18] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[07:18] <crispynix-v6> Kirsch: pretty much every package that should place binaries in /usr/X11R6/bin is not, libglu1-xorg is missing
[07:18] <anacron> is there some good way to minimize graphical things in gentoo, so it would be faster with this old machine?
[07:18] <Kyral> beetle, thats your best bet I would think
[07:18] <anacron> not gentoo, in gnome
[07:18] <crispynix-v6> Kirsch: meanwhile debian's xorg packages are fine
[07:18] <Stormx> Kyral: No. The anti-cheat system fucks it up
[07:18] <Kyral> nope
[07:18] <anacron> i always mix those
[07:18] <Stormx> plus I dunno how to configure wine :(
[07:18] <Kyral> Stormx, Cedega?
[07:18] <Stormx> Huh?
[07:18] <Seveas> crispynix-v6, are you using breezy?
[07:18] <inconnu> i go to eat
[07:18] <inconnu> bye
[07:18] <Stormx> !Cedega
[07:18] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: yep
[07:18] <ubotu> hmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[07:18] <Kirsch> I'll wait.
[07:19] <Seveas> crispynix-v6, in breezy, they are getting rid of /usr/X11R6/
[07:19] <Kirsch> LOL configuring wine sucks ass haha
[07:19] <Kyral> I meant Cedega "Pro" (The Pay Version)
[07:19] <linukso> anacron: select a simple theme, turn off nautilus and don't use gdesklets
[07:19] <Seveas> xorg 7 will be shipped :)
[07:19] <Kirsch> Get anotehr computer for Winblows.
[07:19] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: oh
[07:19] <akaihola> ach, debsums is good for package verification
[07:19] <Stormx> I dunno how to configure wine
[07:19] <Seveas> and therefor they are modularizing the package
[07:19] <Kirsch> YAY!
[07:19] <anacron> linukso: thanks for tip
[07:19] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: until that's done though, important things like imake, xmkmf, mkfontdir etc. have gone MIA
[07:19] <Seveas> and therefor X is broken in Breezu :)
[07:19] <hi-fi_dk> ubuntu and locattion of kernel source anyone ?
[07:19] <Seveas> Breezy*
[07:19] <Seveas> true, true
[07:19] <Kirsch> Seveas: how long do you think? i want to see Breezy...
[07:20] <crispynix-v6> Seveas: (I just unpackaged debian's packages for binaries)
[07:20] <Seveas> that's why you should not use it :)
[07:20] <booman> Can someone tell me how to add 'athcool on' to run at boot
[07:20] <Seveas> Kirsch, it should be finished by october :)
[07:20] <Seveas> (hopefully end of august already though)
[07:20] <Kirsch> I meant, how long do you think It'l be before I can test it.
[07:20] <Kirsch> before xorg will be fixed?
[07:20] <linukso> booman: you can add it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:21] <Snippy> I just love ubuntu
[07:21] <highvoltage> Snippy: me too.
[07:21] <anacron> linukso: can you help me disable nautilus?
[07:21] <Snippy> and I hope they fixe the sound issues in Breezy ;)
[07:21] <Snippy> -e
[07:21] <highvoltage> Snippy: rm /usr/bin/esd did it for me :)
[07:22] <Kirsch> alsaconfig did it for me ;-)
[07:22] <linukso> anacron: of cause! start gconf-editor. You can find it in the Applications->system menu
[07:22] <Snippy> oh well
[07:22] <linukso> anacron: or just start it from a term
[07:22] <Snippy> I just have some crap choppy sound sometimes
[07:22] <Snippy> dont ask me why
[07:22] <Kirsch> Snippy: what sound card you have?
[07:22] <beetle> my irc client disconnected. could i get the instructions for grub reinstallation one more time
[07:23] <Snippy> nforce2 onboard chip: C-Media
[07:23] <anacron> linukso: thanks
[07:23] <Snippy> mp3's just play fine with good quality in xmms
[07:23] <Snippy> but the gnome sounds are choppy
[07:23] <Snippy> like very bad quality
[07:23] <grouse> i am trying to use the Hoary Hedgehog live CD on a ThinkPad G40 with a Broadcom 57xx ethernet adapter. it doesn't seem to work OOTB. anyone have suggestions?
[07:23] <Kirsch> I think I had a borad that came with that out of the box, but I never tested it but I thought it picked it up, I'm still using my SBLive
[07:24] <grouse> by "it," i mean the ethernet doesn't work
[07:24] <Kirsch> oh
[07:24] <linukso> anacron: when you got it running open up apps->nautilus->preferences, and disable show_desktop
[07:24] <Kirsch> Have you tried a different sound server?
[07:24] <Snippy> Kirsch, the sound is so good.. on windows it worked fine with a very good quality
[07:24] <delire> grouse: i use the tg3 driver for my Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet
[07:24] <Snippy> Yes
[07:24] <mind_> Snippy, is xmms using esd or alsa output?
[07:24] <delire> grouse: modprobe tg3 does it here.
[07:24] <grouse> delire: i thought it was supposed to be included in the 2.6.10 kernel on the CD?
[07:24] <grouse> ah
[07:25] <grouse> i have to do that manually
[07:25] <klaym> hey people running clearlooks with gperfection or graphite suite theme! How do I get the window borders to look like these: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/23563-1.jpg
[07:25] <Snippy> alsa
[07:25] <linukso> xmms... Don't understand why people are still using that...
[07:25] <Snippy> mind
[07:25] <Snippy> alsa
[07:25] <anacron> linukso: what 'bout that gdesklets?
[07:25] <Kirsch> delire: you have to modprobe it manually??? I have the same driver
[07:25] <Snippy> xmms just works fine for me linukso, and it gives me a better sound quality than gnome sounds atm
[07:25] <equex> whats a good player except xmms, then ? i need a winamp clone :)
[07:25] <Kirsch> but the install CD picked up my wlan and lan, the live CD didn't boot with either.
[07:26] <Kirsch> equex: bmp
[07:26] <equex> preferably a winamp 2.91 clone
[07:26] <delire> grouse: you may have to load the driver yep. to make this permanent, add 'tg3' to your /etc/modules
[07:26] <Kirsch> beep-media-player
[07:26] <Kirsch> it's kinda unstable, but it depends how you use winamp, try that.
[07:26] <equex> alrgiht thanks
[07:26] <grouse> ok, many thanks delire
[07:27] <equex> well the only reason id wanna switch from xmms would be its unstability
[07:27] <equex> it hangs a lot
[07:27] <Kirsch> oh...
[07:27] <Snippy> thats right
[07:27] <Kirsch> yea, this won't solve that problem
[07:27] <Kirsch> heh
[07:28] <Kirsch> its just a GTK2 port of XMMS
[07:28] <equex> oh
[07:28] <dazjorz> Hey
[07:28] <delire> Kirsch: you may have to load the driver yep. to make this permanent, add 'tg3' to your /etc/modules
[07:28] <dazjorz> This program tells me that port 10000 is already in use
[07:28] <dazjorz> how do I see what program uses it ?
[07:28] <equex> brb install pizza in oven
[07:28] <dazjorz> its Miniserv by Webmin, thats ok, but where do I find the miniserv executable
[07:28] <anacron> how do you install pizza?
[07:28] <anacron> :D
[07:28] <Kirsch> the same way you bake a cookie ;-)
[07:28] <equex> mount /var/pizza /dev/oven
[07:29] <anacron> wohoo
[07:29] <no_gatez_fan> pizza you cannot automount
[07:29] <grouse> :(
[07:29] <delire> equex: no need http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party
[07:29] <dazjorz> hey erm
[07:29] <Kirsch> bad fs: pizza
[07:29] <anacron> :D
[07:29] <dazjorz> why don't you add that to /etc/fstab
[07:29] <anacron> ubuntu goes pizza
[07:29] <dazjorz> you'll get a pizza every boot
[07:29] <dazjorz> ^^
[07:29] <anacron> dazjorz: that's the problem
[07:29] <grouse> lp0: pizza on fire
[07:29] <anacron> i don't boot
[07:29] <anacron> :D
[07:29] <no_gatez_fan> yikez
[07:30] <dazjorz> Hey wait
[07:30] <Kirsch> hi
[07:30] <dazjorz> why then... don't you add it to CRON ?
[07:30] <anacron> that's a good idea
[07:30] <dazjorz> like
[07:30] <dazjorz> every 30 minutes, mount /var/pizza to /dev/oven
[07:30] <dazjorz> and then
[07:30] <no_gatez_fan> make sure to add a pizza folder to media
[07:30] <Kirsch> you'll have to unmount the pizza tho won't you?
[07:30] <Vital303> hi! I am trying to make my sound card work. I think I have  found exactly what I need on the forum.  But I cant understand it. What does "went to 'init 1'" mean?
[07:31] <beetle> how to reinstall the grub loader? need step by step instructions.
[07:31] <dazjorz> if( /var/pizza/state == "ready" ) { umount /var/pizza }
[07:31] <Vital303> "Okay, figured it out, went to 'init 1' and ran the commends from there, my SOUndblaster Live! 24" finally works!!!"
[07:31] <Vital303> I got it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=19307
[07:31] <dazjorz> Vital303: It means that the Linux system got to init 1
[07:31] <dazjorz> you can do that yourself by typing init 1
[07:31] <dazjorz> as a command
[07:31] <Vital303> OK
[07:31] <Vital303> thank you
[07:31] <dazjorz> it'll restart your pc
[07:31] <dazjorz> :)
[07:32] <dazjorz> i thought...
[07:32] <dazjorz> ?
[07:32] <dazjorz> or single user mode
[07:32] <dazjorz> i can't remember
[07:32] <Seveas> it will not restart
[07:32] <equex> argh
[07:32] <Seveas> 6 is restart
[07:32] <Seveas> 0 is shutdown
[07:32] <equex> do you see that i did now ?
[07:32] <dazjorz> ehh xP sorry yea thats what I thought after a few seconds
[07:32] <Vital303> should I do it as 'root'?
[07:32] <dazjorz> Wait
[07:32] <dazjorz> dont do that
[07:32] <delire> it's init -s
[07:32] <dazjorz> eh
[07:32] <dazjorz> you want to go to single user mode ?
[07:32] <equex> delire: hehe, too bad pizza isnt included
[07:32] <dazjorz> init 1
[07:33] <delire> equex: ;)
[07:33] <dazjorz> How do I see where the executable that listens to port 10000 is ?
[07:33] <Seveas> sudo netstat -tlnp | grep 10000
[07:33] <dazjorz> or, even better, how do I stop it from listening to port 10000
[07:34] <delire> i prefer netstat -tupa myself
[07:34] <dazjorz> it tells me:
[07:34] <delire> but yep, that'll do it
[07:34] <dazjorz> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:10000           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     20335/perl
[07:34] <rss> hi, I have problem installing Ubuntu on a HP Pavilion PC
[07:34] <Seveas> if it listens you need only -l not -a
[07:34] <Seveas> dazjorz, then it's a perl program :)
[07:34] <delire> Seveas: hah you're right.
[07:34] <dazjorz> Logical, I could have thought that myself
[07:34] <bur[n] er> rss: why?
[07:34] <bur[n] er> :)
[07:34] <rss> it goes till "bsdutils" and stops
[07:35] <dazjorz> how do I find the location of that file or how do I terminate it
[07:35] <rss> bur[n] er, I have no idea
[07:35] <bur[n] er> anyone know if the new rhythmbox in breezy supports tag editing??
[07:35] <rss> any one here got Ubuntu installed on a HP Pavilion PC?
[07:35] <dazjorz> Seveas: How do I find the location of the perl script and/or how do I terminate it
[07:35] <equex> rss yes
[07:36] <rss> Has that got LightScribe DVD Writer?
[07:36] <iconist> I have a powerpc 7200/100... will ubuntu install on this? Or is it only the g# and above?
[07:36] <Seveas> dazjorz, lsof | grep 10000
[07:36] <equex> i have kubuntu with a k7 kernel
[07:36] <Seveas> that'll give you a pid
[07:36] <equex> rss i am not sure what brand it is, i think it is not LightScribe
[07:36] <dazjorz> miniserv. 20335       root    6u     IPv4      38266                TCP *:10000 (LISTEN)
[07:36] <dazjorz> miniserv. 20335       root    7u     IPv4      38267                UDP *:10000
[07:37] <equex> its panasonic or something
[07:37] <dazjorz> Seveas: thats what it gives
[07:37] <Seveas> so  it's miniserv.pl :)
[07:37] <Seveas> kill 20335 dhould kill it
[07:37] <dazjorz> Seveas: Yes I know it is that filename xP
[07:37] <dazjorz> Seveas: Thats where I was looking for, thanks
[07:37] <equex> rss and i am having problems with the DVD *rom*
[07:37] <equex> it doesnt read my burned DVDs from windows
[07:38] <iconist> Will ubuntu install on a PowerPC 7200?
[07:38] <dazjorz> Seveas: Thanks, it works now !!
[07:38] <dazjorz> :)
[07:38] <dazjorz> =)
[07:38] <equex> rss and i have frequent lock ups
[07:40] <rss> hmm
[07:42] <salutis> hello all
[07:45] <beetle> after i made a new partition before the linux partition and restarted my computer i got grub loader error 17. need step by step instructions on how to fix
[07:45] <Chaotic_Shield> !grub
[07:45] <ubotu> well, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[07:45] <Snippy> !winex
[07:45] <ubotu> Snippy: Wish i knew
[07:45] <Snippy> !cedega
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[07:46] <Kirsch> !ubotu
[07:46] <ubotu> I heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[07:46] <Kirsch> !add
[07:46] <ubotu> I heard add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[07:47] <Seveas> don't play with the bot in here, you can /msg hom too
[07:47] <Seveas> hin*
[07:47] <Seveas> him*
[07:47] <Kirsch> oh ok
[07:48] <Seveas> beetle, you will need to edit menu.lst (and probably you need to reinstall grub)
[07:51] <bur[n] er> why is the bot a him?
[07:51] <bur[n] er> why can't it be a hot chica ;)
[07:51] <^thehatsrule^> or it?
[07:51] <delire> i vote 'it'
[07:51] <delire> there aren't enough it's in the world
[07:51] <Kirsch> the bot just made fun of me
[07:52] <bur[n] er> anyone using breezy?
[07:52] <terrex> me
[07:53] <bur[n] er> is X fixed?
[07:53] <Kirsch> no
[07:53] <Kirsch> no i wouldn't
[07:53] <delire> i wouldn't either.
[07:53] <bur[n] er> well... x doesn't work for me currently ;)
[07:53] <Kirsch> i just asked, seveas said...
[07:53] <bur[n] er> but i'll wait
[07:53] <OculusAquilae> for me it works
[07:54] <delire> unless of course masochism is a popular recreational activity in your part of the world.
[07:54] <bur[n] er> ooh
[07:54] <bur[n] er> one good report is better than before ;)
[07:54] <bur[n] er> sado masochism even
[07:54] <delire> ok, go for that dist-upgrade
[07:54] <OculusAquilae> but without internationalisation
[07:54] <Kirsch> in breezy, they are getting rid of /usr/X11R6/
[07:54] <bur[n] er> ;)
[07:54] <Kirsch> thye are doing some other package now.
[07:55] <dazjorz> WTF
[07:55] <dazjorz>  WHAT THE FUCK
[07:55] <dazjorz> !:!!::!
[07:55] <ubotu> dazjorz: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:55] <dazjorz> Errrh
[07:55] <Kirsch> lol
[07:55] <dazjorz> I was SSH'ing this whole day
[07:55] <dazjorz> andeh
[07:55] <dazjorz> I just found out errm
[07:55] <dazjorz> that I wasn't sshing, i was on my own machine -.-'
[07:55] <dazjorz> sooo
[07:55] <dazjorz> now there is a lot of stuff on my own PC that I thought was on the OTHER pc -.-'
[07:56] <dazjorz> please kill me, someone, i gotta start all over
[07:56] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:56] <piksi> how easy it is to update the ubuntu iso with a new kernel and install from it?
[07:56] <Kirsch> LOL
[07:56] <terrex> X is half-fixed
[07:57] <h08817> anacron, how would i update my version of ubuntu?
[07:58] <dazjorz> Abandonando ?
[07:59] <dazjorz> dammit
[07:59] <dazjorz> because of that all
[07:59] <dazjorz> I installed a remote control program on my own pc -.-'
[07:59] <dazjorz> oooooooooh
[07:59] <dazjorz> because I thought I was SSH'ing but i was actually just in a local terminal
[07:59] <bur[n] er> dazjorz: apt-get remove remotecontrolprogram ?
[08:00] <awb4422> I'm having trouble with dvd playback. Only root can play dvd's - is my local user not in the right group?
[08:01] <bur[n] er> awb4422: did you add this user upon ubuntu install?  or post-install?
[08:01] <EasterSunshine> hmm...slightly off topic this is, but the yahoo filters the mail i send with kmail as bulk spam...any workaround?
[08:01] <awb4422> during the install
[08:02] <bur[n] er> EasterSunshine: i know the quick one... use thunderbird or evolution ;)
[08:02] <anacron> h08817: you mean kernel?
[08:03] <anacron> h08817: search the right kernels with synaptic, and after they are installed reboot your computer and then select 686 mode after your system has booted up you can remove 386 kernel with synaptic
[08:03] <nubbe> Are there any e-book readers for linux,except acrobat/evince?
[08:04] <awb4422> bur[n] er - it may not be groups, it could be something in fstab - maybe my cd-rom isnt mounted w/ the correct options to allow dvd playback for all users?
[08:04] <anacron> how to edit fluxbox config?
[08:04] <anacron> and how to set up backround for it
[08:05] <TheRookie> help
[08:05] <linukso> anacron: just edit ~/.fluxbox/menu init or keys. Read man fluxbox
[08:05] <TheRookie> exit
[08:05] <EasterSunshine> bur[n] er: thx that is actually very good advice and the perfect solution!
[08:05] <narkceh> I did install ubuntu and when the first stage was complete and i booted comp. Now it says grub hard disk error?
[08:05] <narkceh> what can i do
[08:06] <dazjorz> bur[n] er: I didn't install it though apt-get, because that wasn't possible.
[08:06] <Edddie> I'm having a problem with changing date/time, it crashes after I enter my password
[08:07] <Vital303> I am listening to mp3 now
[08:07] <narkceh> any idea?
[08:07] <Vital303> thank you guys
[08:07] <kemik> awb4422:  where you have your dvds, how do you mount the filesystem ? could it be owned by root ?
[08:08] <kemik> narkceh:  nope, try google the exact errormsg
[08:08] <awb4422> /dev/hda is /media/cdrom0
[08:08] <dazjorz> wtf
[08:08] <awb4422> this is the line from fstab
[08:08] <awb4422> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[08:08] <dazjorz> is there md4 too ?
[08:08] <dazjorz> how long is that ago...
[08:08] <awb4422> its a dvd-rw/cd-rw combo
[08:08] <dazjorz> I never heard of md4 next to md5
[08:09] <AdmiralSenn> hey guys
[08:09] <AdmiralSenn> running gnome here.. my windows are doing weird things
[08:09] <Stormx> Hey sexies
[08:10] <Stormx> haha
[08:10] <Stormx> is that a gaming site for trannies?
[08:10] <glick> hey which flash do i need to get flash working in firefox
[08:10] <glick> flashplayer-mozilla
[08:10] <AdmiralSenn> example: Xchat exactly fills the space between the applications/gnome bar and the windows panel at the bottom
[08:10] <AdmiralSenn> firefox used to but doesn't now
[08:10] <delire> gpd: apparently you can compile the winex sources for free.
[08:10] <glick> or flashplugin-nonfree
[08:10] <AdmiralSenn> blender used to but doesn't
[08:10] <AdmiralSenn> etc
[08:11] <hi-fi_dk> how do I get the kernel source for the kernel i'm running in ubuntu ?
[08:11] <anacron> i misconfigured xorg and now i can't get back to tty7 where fluxbox was open, how do i kill it, so i can start it again?, startx starts only gnome, and if i log out it it goes back to tty1
[08:11] <gpd> delire: do they support as many games?
[08:11] <delire> gpd: it's the same codebase from transgaming.com
[08:11] <AdmiralSenn> hi-fi_dk: synaptic search for 'kernel' should give it up
[08:11] <Dr_Willis>  ive never had much luck with winex. :( even with the supported games.
[08:11] <Edddie> I'm having a problem with changing date/time, it crashes after I enter my password
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> or cedega. :(
[08:11] <Stormx> xD
[08:11] <AdmiralSenn> really annoying
[08:11] <delire> AdmiralSenn: normally you have to start blender in windowed mode to have the correct performance. blender -w
[08:11] <AdmiralSenn> delire: I did
[08:11] <grouse> delire: modprobe tg3 did the trick
[08:12] <grouse> thank you very much
[08:12] <AdmiralSenn> the problem is that it is in windowed mode, but it's HGUE
[08:12] <AdmiralSenn> *HUGE
[08:12] <delire> grouse: good, don't forget to add tg3 to /etc/modules
[08:12] <AdmiralSenn> and it used to fit the window space perfectly
[08:12] <delire> grouse: great ;)
[08:12] <grouse> delire: does that matter if this is just a live CD?
[08:12] <gpd> Dr_Willis: ever tried Call of Duty?  just bought it (bit late)
[08:12] <delire> grouse: ahah, no ;)
[08:12] <grouse> i'll have to do it every time, won't i? :)
[08:12] <delire> grouse: i thought you'd installed.
[08:12] <grouse> sadly no
[08:12] <delire> grouse: yep, everytime with a livecd
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> gpd,  not really. :P  Had soo many other annyonces with other games.. i just reboot to windows now.
[08:13] <grouse> thanks again, must go for now
[08:13] <gpd> Dr_Willis: I'll give it a try as this is one of the few things left in windows that i need
[08:13] <delire> i notice that WoW works pretty much perfectly under wine
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> gpd,  'need' a game. :P
[08:13] <gpd> my Garmin GPS is the other thing...
[08:14] <dazjorz> mount /var/pizza /dev/oven -t margarita
[08:14] <gpd> Dr_Willis: s/need/desire/ better? :)
[08:14] <beefster> guys, does anyone know if there is a package which is the equivalent to vcdgear in windoze that extracts mpg files from .bin files?
[08:14] <f_newton> heh
[08:15] <delire> beefster: i would poke around freshmeat.net for that sort of thing
[08:16] <cute_bettong> what's the app for running a palm pilet in Linux?
[08:16] <glick> anyone here play america's army?
[08:16] <glick> how is that?
[08:16] <delire> cute_bettong: there are a few. people seem to like kpilot
[08:16] <cute_bettong> thanx
[08:16] <AdmiralSenn> glick: sometimes
[08:16] <delire> glick: about as exciting as the name suggests. "america" +"army"
[08:16] <delire> glick: get enough of that on tv ;)
[08:17] <AdmiralSenn> delire: lies!
[08:17] <delire> glick: but sure, it plays perfectly well
[08:17] <dazjorz> how do I play games like San Andreas fast in Linux ?
[08:17] <dazjorz> do I have to install VMWare for that ?
[08:17] <kemik> dazjorz:  wine or cedega perhaps
[08:17] <muhammad> OMGWTFBBQ
[08:17] <Snippy> How can I open TGZ files?
[08:17] <Snippy> !tgz
[08:17] <ubotu> Snippy: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:17] <delire> AdmiralSenn: i'm sure there are ways of finding exact window positions, and setting padding etc. though i'm not clear on your exact problem.
[08:18] <AdmiralSenn> delire: some of my windows are starting at the topof the screen
[08:18] <delire> dazjorz: these are games made for another OS, you will have to use a compatibility layer like cedega
[08:18] <AdmiralSenn> and blender is starting at a huge size despite the -w option being set
[08:18] <gpd> Snippy: tar xvfz file.tgz
[08:18] <delire> AdmiralSenn: i would see #gnome
[08:18] <AdmiralSenn> thanks
[08:18] <Snippy> thanks
[08:20] <Snippy> gpd: tar: Old option `C' requires an argument.
[08:20] <Snippy> Try `tar --help' for more information.
[08:20] <dazjorz> baba...?!!
[08:21] <gpd> Snippy: where did tyou get the C from ?  tar xvfz ...
[08:21] <beefster> delire - thanks
[08:22] <EasterSunshine> hmm...thunderbird doesn't let me fetch mail from /var/mail/ , it requires that i have a pop3 serevr running?
[08:24] <f_newton> EasterSunshine, try a root console, type mutt or go to /var/mail/whatever it is/
[08:25] <gpd> does everybody here use ext3 or are we trying xfs/jfs/reiser?
[08:25] <Determinist> this doesnt make sense. my integrated 855 intel gfx card on my laptop runs 3d graphics much faster than my desktop's ati radeon 9600. even had ATI drivers installed...
[08:25] <AdmiralSenn> gah
[08:25] <AdmiralSenn> #gnome is dead
[08:25] <glick> is AA open source?
[08:25] <Determinist> any idea how to solve this? my 3d performance on the radeon card just sucks big time
[08:25] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: googling for Thunderbird /var/mail gives some possibly useful hits, e.g., http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-March/080586.html
[08:25] <f_newton> i am hoping if I am wrong that someone will correct me in an embarrassingly effective manner
[08:25] <DVSoftware> gpd, i'm using reiser
[08:25] <ugo> hey guys...
[08:26] <f_newton> well gosh DVSoftware I'll write that down
[08:26] <ugo> i cant seem to find the manpages for fork, bind, accept etc on my ubuntu box
[08:26] <gpd> DVSoftware: reiser is disliked by many... any problems?
[08:26] <ugo> am i missing something or do i have to install a package ?
[08:26] <DVSoftware> no problems at all
[08:26] <HappyFool> ugo: install manpages-dev (i think)
[08:26] <EasterSunshine> thx HappYFool
[08:26] <ugo> ahh....
[08:27] <DVSoftware> i'm using reiser longer than year i think
[08:27] <gpd> are there tools for reading the drive under windows?
[08:27] <HappyFool> ugo: you'll also probably need build-essential (for gcc/g++/make) and various -dev packages, depending on what you want to build
[08:27] <f_newton> heh I thought I was in the "other room" lol
[08:27] <DVSoftware> but in my country power outages are very common thing
[08:27] <DVSoftware> and i don't have ups
[08:28] <DVSoftware> i've never got any corrupted data
[08:28] <f_newton> DVSoftware, get a generator or build one from a some care alternators
[08:28] <HappyFool> erk. that reminds me to get ups before thunderstorm season comes
[08:28] <ugo> HappyFool thanks
[08:28] <DVSoftware> gtg, bbl
[08:28] <gpd> DVSoftware: ext2fsd for windows makes life easy if i need to read
[08:30] <h08817> hey i need help installing a screensaver
[08:31] <dazjorz> !cedega
[08:31] <ubotu> cedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[08:32] <Evan> hi
[08:33] <Evan> hello oooooooo any body there
[08:33] <h08817> how can i install a program from a website?
[08:33] <Evan> i dont no
[08:33] <h08817> i want the xsnow screen saver
[08:33] <kemik> h08817:  you download it
[08:33] <juanej> hey ppl my hp cd-writer 9100 doesnt burn anything with k3b :(
[08:33] <h08817> kemik, how i am a noob to linux
[08:33] <Evan> ya wut  kemik said
[08:33] <vince> hey wen ever i try to play a mp3 with xmms it freezes
[08:34] <kemik> h08817:  depends, isit just sourcecode, or a .deb package?
[08:34] <Evan> o right linux diffrent from windows
[08:34] <kemik> vince:  could be that your soundcard is busy
[08:34] <alrighta> Whenever I try to open a new document(which a moment before I created) - I always get the same error - "Couldn't display <location here..>
[08:34] <vince> no nothing is using my sound card
[08:34] <h08817> a tar
[08:34] <aru> h08817: I would try System > Administration > Synaptic then search for xsnow and install it
[08:34] <Evan> i dont like linux cause you cant play that many good games on it
[08:34] <h08817> what if it isn't there
[08:35] <lakin> i'm walking my dad through a pretty much default ubuntu install with no networking over the phone.  (Default hoary CD's from shipit).  There was a problem with postfix,  is this normal?  Should I just rerun the base system install again?
[08:35] <aru> add universe and search again
[08:35] <Kirsch> Evan: what game?
[08:35] <kemik> h08817:  download the tarball, type "tar -zxvf filename.gz.tar" and then read the INSTALL or README... most likely the procedure is "./configure" "make" "sudo make install"
[08:35] <linukso> h08817: xsnow is in universe, I just checked....
[08:35] <Evan> kirsch
[08:36] <juanej> how do i hot scsi emulation?
[08:36] <vince> do i need a plugin or sumthin?
[08:36] <h08817> linukso, what does that mean?
[08:36] <Kirsch> yes?
[08:36] <linukso> h08817: use synaptic, it will make you life easier...
[08:36] <kemik> h08817:  but it's better to get the package through apt/synaptic
[08:36] <kemik> !tell h08817 about universe
[08:36] <Evan> i m trying to find out wut games work on linux and wut dont
[08:36] <klaym> how can I get the window borders used on gperfection? I have all else working, but the border option won't show up, even though gperfection folder is in .themes
[08:36] <kemik> !tell h08817 about repositories
[08:36] <Snippy> how can I move a folder to the /usr/ folder?
[08:36] <xerox> yo
[08:36] <kemik> Snippy:  mv
[08:37] <Kirsch> !cedega
[08:37] <ubotu> well, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[08:37] <alrighta> lol.. help?
[08:37] <xerox> Is there a freenode channel or some mailing list to keep updated with the breezy developement?
[08:37] <Spudchat> hi guys my firefox stopped working yesterday so i uninstalled it but now cant figure out wehat packages i need to reinstall it
[08:37] <h08817> ok while i am reading that i have a little problem with installing linux on a basically brand new computer and it just won't work
[08:37] <deejoe_> /pub/linux/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/ has a 2.6.12 restricted-modules package, but I can find no 2.6.12 kernel package anywhere.  Any pointers as to where it might be, or why the modules would be in a repository but the matching binary kernel package isn't?
[08:37] <linukso> klaym: what borders?
[08:37] <Spudchat> any help is greatly appreciated
[08:37] <Snippy> like   " mv home/dl/usr/ /usr/ ?
[08:37] <linukso> Spudchat: run apt-cache search firefox
[08:37] <juanej> where do i find my cd-writer config file?
[08:37] <lakin> it sounds like the CD is scratched.  Damn.
[08:38] <klaym> linukso: the borders where you have the x-button, etc
[08:38] <Evan>  who knows of an good games for linix
[08:38] <logical_mark> hey guys. I went into ubuntu System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop and I enabled it, but I dont know the port I need to forward on my router.
[08:38] <Spudchat> it found a whole bunch
[08:38] <logical_mark> Evan, Unreal Tournement 2004 runs on linux
[08:38] <robertj> heya all, anyone got a recommendation on a bluetooth pen?
[08:38] <erisco> how do i remove wine from my computer?
[08:38] <linukso> klaym: I understood that, but have you got an picture i.ex?
[08:38] <Evan> mark wut do u do in tit
[08:38] <Evan> it
[08:38] <erisco> 'rpm -e wine' isn't working, it says to use alien
[08:39] <klaym> linukso: here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/23563-1.jpg
[08:39] <Kirsch> erisco: sudo apt-cache search wine; sudo apt-remove <what apt-cache search returns>
[08:39] <kemik> Snippy:  or use nautilus click-and-drag
[08:39] <Snippy> permission denied
[08:39] <gpd> Kirsch: no... dpkg -l  |grep wine  ... then apt-get remove
[08:39] <kemik> erisco:  rpm is for Redhat
[08:39] <logical_mark> Evan, it is a first person shooter
[08:39] <logical_mark> a lot of people play it
[08:39] <Evan> cool
[08:39] <Spudchat> so the firefox package and any thing else it needs should be fine to run?
[08:40] <deejoe_> Evan, I like bzflag, but that's too old school for some people.
[08:40] <logical_mark> hey guys. I went into ubuntu System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop and I enabled it, but I dont know the port I need to forward on my router.
[08:40] <kemik> erisco:  and Wine is available from apt-get repositories
[08:40] <gpd> where is the system v config editor in gnome... can't find it
[08:40] <Evan> deejoe wut the hell is that
[08:40] <logical_mark> gpd, where you asking me?
[08:40] <gpd> logical_mark: no, anyone who knows...
[08:41] <ubuntu_> how would I go about shrinking an ext3 partition??
[08:41] <hubsi> how do i mount a pati. !?
[08:41] <h08817> can any1 tell me what this means? unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[08:41] <deejoe_> Evan, tank sim
[08:41] <kemik> Snippy:  why are you moving stuff into /usr ? (you can probably do "sudo nautilus" however, im not sure if i recommend what you're doing ;) )
[08:41] <Evan> dee joe a tank simulation
[08:41] <h08817> linukso, well i tried that repository thing
[08:41] <kemik> !tell hubsi about mount
[08:41] <bur[n] er> ubuntu_: gparted or qtparted
[08:41] <lui> gpd: the v or the vi?
[08:41] <h08817> and i still didn't find it
[08:42] <logical_mark> so no one know what port remote desktop runs on?
[08:42] <kemik> h08817:  did you update ? (apt-get update)
[08:42] <gpd> lui graphical front ent to sysv-rc-conf
[08:42] <linukso> klaym: did you look at art.gnome.org
[08:42] <deejoe_> Evan, it's networked, so you can play capture the flag or other team scenarios online.
[08:42] <h08817> no i didn't
[08:42] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to drop down to a term from a broken X in breezy?  ctrl+alt+f2 f3, etc, don't work
[08:42] <Evan> dee joe were do u get this game
[08:42] <linukso> klaym: it look quite similar to several of the stock gnome borders
[08:42] <kemik> h08817:  xsnow - Brings Christmas to your desktop <-- is that what you want?
[08:42] <BockBilbo> ... anyone here knows if there is a bug related to nautilus and nfs or smbfs?
[08:42] <BockBilbo> :S
[08:42] <h08817> eys
[08:42] <linukso> h08817: did you select
[08:43] <lui> gpd: oops, i dn't know
[08:43] <lui> gpd: oops, i don't know
[08:43] <linukso> h08817: did you add universe (and mulitverse) from synaptic?
[08:43] <kemik> BockBilbo:  there are at least to samba.. or has been bugs
[08:43] <nubbe> Anyone know of e-book readers for ubuntu?
[08:43] <wickedlester> bur[n] er it should be ctrl+alt+F1
[08:43] <Spudchat> allright so i installed fiefox, mozilla-firefox and the english language
[08:43] <gpd> lui: it should be in gnome-utils but not there
[08:43] <highvoltage> nubbe: xpdf?
[08:43] <Evan> o
[08:43] <bur[n] er> wickedlester: still nothin
[08:43] <deejoe_> Evan, *I* get it from Debian repositories, but bzflag.org and google might have other clues.
[08:43] <h08817> no what is that?
[08:43] <Spudchat> anthing im missing?
[08:43] <xerox> bur[n] er, the topic states "Please, don't use breezy yet"
[08:43] <wickedlester> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> wickedlester: why not f2, f3, etc
[08:44] <h08817> linukso, how do i do that?
[08:44] <bur[n] er> yeah i know
[08:44] <Evan> Dee joe k thanks a lot
[08:44] <nubbe> highvoltage, works for more than pdf?
[08:44] <BockBilbo> kemik, see, every once in a while, nautiluse gets frozen
[08:44] <deejoe_> Evan, have fun.
[08:44] <bur[n] er> wickedlester: tried that too... think I just have to go to recovery mode or boot a livecd
[08:44] <Evan> dee joe k bye
[08:44] <BockBilbo> because im working with a remote share mounted on my system via nfs or smbfs
[08:44] <linukso> !repositories
[08:44] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:44] <kemik> h08817:  read your links from ubotu
[08:44] <bur[n] er> just curious if there was some weird key combo i didn't know about
[08:44] <BockBilbo> i dnt know if thats normal :S
[08:44] <linukso> h08817: take a look at that.
[08:44] <bur[n] er> thanks anyway
[08:44] <wickedlester> maybe you have enabled the windows ctrl+alt+delete :D
[08:44] <Spudchat> damn it still wont work :(
[08:44] <kemik> BockBilbo:  my entire computer locked up while heavy loadinf over the samba-mounts...
[08:45] <kemik> BockBilbo:  solved my problems with switching to NFS
[08:45] <BockBilbo> kemik, i have the same problem
[08:45] <BockBilbo> but the problem still there using nfs
[08:45] <linukso> Spudchat: Is it a problem for all users?
[08:45] <BockBilbo> :S
[08:45] <Spudchat> im the only one
[08:45] <linukso> Spudchat: it might be a problem with you profile
[08:45] <kemik> that sucks :/
[08:45] <Spudchat> damn
[08:45] <Spudchat> how would i find out? and do you think restarting would help?
[08:45] <linukso> Spudchat: just remove ~/.mozilla/firefox
[08:46] <linukso> or rename it
[08:46] <linukso> and try again
[08:46] <Spudchat> try running it again?
[08:46] <Spudchat> or installin it again
[08:46] <linukso> no no, no need to reinstall
[08:46] <Spudchat> hmm allright
[08:46] <linukso> just try starting it again
[08:46] <erisco> how do i add a folder into my /etc/ folder with root?
[08:46] <linukso> might be easier if you describe the error a bit more.
[08:47] <erisco> what is the command is what i am asking?
[08:47] <linukso> erisco: sudo mkdir /etc/foo
[08:47] <Spudchat> it just says starting firefox and then never does
[08:47] <zAo^> Are the restricted modules for kernel 2.6.12-6.7 the same as the ones for kernel  2.6.12-6.8?
[08:47] <linukso> Spudchat: try starting firefox from gnome-terminal
[08:48] <gpd> zAo^: where are you getting that kernel/
[08:48] <zAo^> Breezy
[08:48] <BTJustice> I am trying ot mount my WIndows hard drives.  I run "sudo fdisk -l" which lists all of my installed hard drives then I run "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/backup/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222" to mount one of them (this is a backup drive with documents nad pictures) and it errors out.  What I am doing wrong?
[08:49] <gpd> zAo^: I am tempted by a chroot breezy for testing... but too unstable for main machine :)
[08:49] <keikoz> BTJustice
[08:49] <gpd> BTJustice: what is the error
[08:49] <zAo^> its on my main machine here :$
[08:49] <BTJustice> Let me paste it...
[08:49] <keikoz> the options come before arguments
[08:49] <erisco> i am trying to compile wine, but it says there is no C compiler in $PATH
[08:49] <erisco> where can i complie wine?
[08:49] <erisco> it is in my etc folder
[08:49] <HappyFool> install 'build-essential'
[08:49] <keikoz> why compile wine ?
[08:50] <BTJustice> 4 lines...
[08:50] <linukso> erisco: get it with aptitude
[08:50] <keikoz> it is in repositories
[08:50] <BTJustice> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[08:50] <BTJustice>        missing codepage or other error
[08:50] <BTJustice>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:50] <BTJustice>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:50] <keikoz> apt-get wine
[08:50] <keikoz> apt-get install wine
[08:50] <Chaotic_Shield> you need to get the repository for wine though
[08:50] <erisco> i am compiling wine
[08:50] <Chaotic_Shield> wine.sourceforge.net I think it is
[08:50] <Chaotic_Shield> just check out winehq.com
[08:50] <keikoz> just main or universe
[08:50] <highvoltage> keikoz: you used to use gentoo?
[08:50] <keikoz> universe i huess
[08:50] <h08817> linukso, doesn't work for me so i guess i can't get it
[08:50] <erisco> not using synaptic
[08:51] <keikoz> highvoltage i did use it but i'm on ubuntu now; why ?
[08:51] <HappyFool> erisco: hang on, someone posted a guide to compiling wine
[08:51] <lui> gpd: try /usr/share/sysvinit
[08:51] <HappyFool> erisco: let me see if i can find it
[08:51] <Chaotic_Shield> HappyFool, it's on winehq.com
[08:51] <HappyFool> erisco: oh, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone
[08:51] <HappyFool> erisco: stop at the 'Setting up Flashplayer' step ;)
[08:52] <h08817> install help here please
[08:52] <gpd> lui: I used sysv-rc-conf - it was all good, sysvconfig is broke though
[08:52] <alrighta> Whenever I try to open a new document(which a moment before I created) - I always get the same error - "Couldn't display <location here..>
[08:52] <h08817> for ubuntu
[08:52] <juanej> PPL: Does anybody have a hp 9100 CD-Writer??
[08:52] <BTJustice> keikoz & gpd: See the error I pasted?
[08:52] <highvoltage> keikoz: i started using gentoo on one computer recently, and whenever i come back to my ubuntu box i type "apt-get program" instead of "apt-get install program", just like you did.
[08:52] <keikoz> BTJustice the options come before arguments
[08:52] <linukso> h08817: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin
[08:53] <keikoz> and try without the nls=
[08:53] <keikoz> i'm not sure about this option
[08:53] <BTJustice> keikoz: What does that mean?  I am, new to Linux.
[08:53] <h08817> where is pastebin?
[08:53] <keikoz> just put the options before /dev/hda ...
[08:53] <cute_bettong> !pastebin
[08:53] <ubotu> [pastebin]  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[08:53] <cute_bettong> ubotu hi
[08:53] <ubotu> que tal
[08:53] <h08817> bueno
[08:54] <cute_bettong> wants his own bot >.<
[08:54] <keikoz> highvoltage ah ... emerge power :p
[08:54] <lui> gpd: I don't see any sysv-rc-conf
[08:54] <gpd> lui you have to apt-get it :)
[08:54] <BTJustice> "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/backup/"  ???
[08:54] <gpd> BTJustice: should work
[08:54] <keikoz> that's better yes
[08:54] <BTJustice> ok, let me try that
[08:54] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[08:54] <lui> gpd: that's why I don't see any :)
[08:54] <keikoz> but i'm still not sure about nls=
[08:54] <phixion> is there anyway to stop dvd's 'skipping' on playback ? :/
[08:55] <keikoz> just try it like this, you'll be fixed
[08:55] <psurani> hello
[08:55] <lui> I'm going to eat..... (hungry)
[08:55] <nubbe> Does anyone have experience with ntfsfix? I'm going to run it on a big partition, is it (relatively) safe?
[08:55] <psurani> are u people on ubuntu ?
[08:55] <phixion> yes
[08:55] <keikoz> nubbe nothing about ntfs is safe :p
[08:55] <keikoz> except reading it ...
[08:55] <psurani> hey i cannt install any packages, it says gcc and cc not avaiable !!
[08:55] <nubbe> keikoz, hehe, don't I know it  :)
[08:55] <gpd> BTJustice: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,NTFS)
[08:56] <abarbaccia> phixion, is DMA enabled on your CDROM drive
[08:56] <h08817> linukso, ok there it is
[08:56] <gpd> BTJustice: nls = native language support... unicode...
[08:56] <phixion> psurani, apt-get install build-essential
[08:56] <nubbe> are there other tools than ntfsfix?
[08:56] <phixion> ah, good point abarbaccia
[08:56] <linukso> h08817: address?
[08:56] <BTJustice> ok, thanks guys
[08:56] <alrighta> guys.. some help here? :/
[08:57] <h08817> linukso, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/331434
[08:57] <BTJustice> gpd: That link has no text on page
[08:58] <gpd> BTJustice: works for me... it has weird ( and , though... :(
[08:58] <zyga> does anyone know of a GUI for hdparam?
[08:58] <jmanns> how can i increase the swap space in gnome for a smoother running gui enviroment?
[08:58] <zyga> (hdparam.conf)
[08:58] <linukso> h08817: looks good, and sudo aptitude install xsnow doesn't work?
[08:58] <gpd> BTJustice: !google nls=utf8 mount ntfs ... first hit...
[08:58] <h08817> what do u mean
[08:58] <h08817> can i just do sudo apt-get install xsnow?
[08:58] <linukso> h08817: yes
[08:58] <jmanns> anybody know what i'm talking about?
[08:59] <h08817> didn't work
[08:59] <h08817> couldn't find the packatge
[08:59] <BTJustice> gpd: thatp age works, thanks, I'll read it
[08:59] <jmanns> can anyone help me out?
[08:59] <linukso> jmanns: you could increase the swap space, but I doubt it would speed up your system...
[09:02] <phixion> !repositories
[09:02] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:02] <linukso> h08817: run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xsnow"
[09:02] <deejoe_> I'll try this again... /pub/linux/ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/ has a 2.6.12 restricted-modules package, but I can find no 2.6.12 kernel package anywhere.  Any pointers as to where it might be, or why the modules would be in a repository but the matching binary kernel package isn't?
[09:03] <deejoe_> this is on one of the us mirrors, btw
[09:04] <Xyc0> I need a program that will help me sniff out hot spots for my wireless network, anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:04] <HappyFool> deejoe_: maybe it's for breezy?
[09:04] <Miks> how can i unmount my floppy drive forever...it doesnt work so i see no need in having it...i dont want it to appear anymore in "Computer"
[09:04] <glick> Xyc0, kismet?
[09:04] <HappyFool> deejoe_: i doubt you can install it in hoary
[09:05] <Xyc0> glick: Does that work for G format as well?
[09:05] <deejoe_> HappyFool:  not sure why not:  the kernels shouldn't be so tied to the userland that that can't be done:  I ran a KNOPPIX kernel with hoary, for instance.  The reason I'm looking for this is that madwifi drivers for my laptops atheros are broken in the 2.6.10 that came with hoary.  But the KNOPPIX kernel doesn't have hibernate (swsusp2 I think), but Ubuntu does.  I'd like to have both :-)
[09:06] <HappyFool> deejoe_: Seveas earlier said that hotplug will break
[09:06] <Poromies> deejoe_: sry im coming in between from the bushes, but do you need 2.6.12 kernel and restrited-modules / headers for it?
[09:06] <glick> Xyc0, im not sure, check out the website, i know the guy who develops it, its very active
[09:06] <glick> Xyc0, #kismet
[09:06] <erisco> how do i install dev packages? i need Xlib/Xfree86
[09:06] <Poromies> deejoe_: coz i installed them all from breezy repos to my hoary (or is it hoary then.. hmm..)
[09:07] <HappyFool> erisco: try install 'x-window-system-dev'
[09:07] <Spudchat> guys im still not having any luck
[09:07] <deejoe_> Poromies, I'm hoping 2.6.12 has working madwifi.  The KNOPPIX was 2.6.11, and its wifi worked with my built-in atheros.
[09:07] <HappyFool> erisco: did you read the wiki page i pointed you too?
[09:07] <HappyFool> erisco: if you followed those instructions, the wine dependencies should be installed for you
[09:07] <Stormx> hey! Who has wine installed?
[09:08] <cute_bettong> i use cedega
[09:08] <cute_bettong> with point2play
[09:08] <Poromies> deejoe_: you just need to edit sources.list and change all hoary -> breezy, then update synaptic and search for the files you need, install them and then change repos back to hoary, and then update synaptic again :)
[09:08] <Subfix> Anyone know a solution for the drivers in Ubuntu not installing correctly? None of my hardware is detected (not even the CPU)... only my gfx card
[09:08] <HappyFool> erisco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone
[09:08] <HappyFool> erisco: for the compiler, install the 'build-essential' package
[09:08] <jordan_> does anyone know a great how to for a CVS wine build for ubuntu?
[09:08] <Subfix> I have 'version magic' errors, that's all I know of.
[09:08] <deejoe_> Poromies:  heh.  That might be worth a try.
[09:08] <Poromies> deejoe_: thats how i got my perfectly working 2.6.12 kernel with ati-drivers and wifi :)
[09:09] <delire> jordan_: you mean winex?
[09:09] <HappyFool> erisco: please read the wiki page
[09:09] <HappyFool> erisco: it says 'FlashPlayer', but the initial sections will tell you how to install wine
[09:09] <Stormx> Who has wine installed and working?
[09:09] <pfp> o/
[09:09] <piksi> *** how to build a 5.04 install iso with a newer kernel (the current 5.04 cannot recognize sata atapi dvd and sata hdd) ***
[09:09] <Poromies> deejoe_: but remember not to do a full system update from breezy, then you'll just be getting everything breezed to problem-land :)
[09:09] <piksi> i need some serious help with this :->
[09:10] <crimsun> deejoe_: as in the archive management software?
[09:10] <deejoe_> crimsun: yes
[09:10] <pfp> Stormx: i have, altough i only used (yuk) lotus notes with it
[09:10] <crimsun> deejoe_: admin/madison-lite
[09:11] <elixyr_faery> anyone here have the ares plug-in for giFT?
[09:11] <delire> jordan_: but that page you just gave me has the entire instructions.
[09:11] <Xyc0> damn it is US mirrors broken again?
[09:11] <deejoe_> Poromies, no worries, the only ubuntu I'm running at the moment is a hoary live CD.  laptop randomly decided it didn't want to recognize the partition ubuntu was installed on last weekend.
[09:11] <crimsun> Xyc0: they seem fine to me, why?
[09:12] <deejoe_> crimsun: thank you!
[09:12] <jasmuz> elixyr_faery: nope, what client are you using?
[09:12] <Subfix> Does Kubuntu come with GNOME as well as KDE?
[09:12] <asfra> Does java programs work equally on both windows and linux? of course u have to hava java-enviroment
[09:12] <jasmuz> Subfix: nope, just KDE
[09:12] <HappyFool> Subfix: not the kubuntu CD; you can easily install gnome as well, though
[09:13] <elixyr_faery> client? as in interface? I havent tried running it yet.
[09:13] <crimsun> asfra: that's the goal at least. YMMV.
[09:13] <elixyr_faery> I'm only running setup once.
[09:13] <Subfix> Thanks guys.
[09:13] <HappyFool> i.e., write once, run everywhere (ymmv)
[09:13] <Subfix> hopefully Kubuntu doesn'
[09:13] <BTJustice> gpd:  That takes care of my mount problem I believe, thank you.
[09:13] <Subfix> t yield the same driver error
[09:14] <asfra> crimsun: ok, that would be great
[09:14] <HappyFool> Subfix: the only difference between kubuntu/ubuntu is the desktop environment
[09:14] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me get my Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card to work?
[09:14] <HappyFool> Subfix: i.e., same kernel, same system libraries, etc.
[09:14] <cute_bettong> my 5.1 worked right off the bat
[09:14] <crimsun> BTJustice: you need the snd_ca0106 driver.
[09:14] <crimsun> !tell BTJustice about alsa-source
[09:14] <BTJustice> crisun: ty
[09:14] <piksi> Poromies: any help for a fellow finn for a sata hdd laptop install? :->
[09:14] <cute_bettong> do i need the same driver for my sb Live 5.1?
[09:15] <jasmuz> HappyFool: I love my Gnome Desktop
[09:15] <crimsun> cute_bettong: no, you need the standard snd_emu10k1 driver, why?
[09:15] <jasmuz> :)
[09:15] <cute_bettong> just wondering
[09:15] <cute_bettong> the card works perfectly right now
[09:15] <cute_bettong> i was just wondering
[09:15] <cute_bettong> lol
[09:15] <gpd> BTJustice: congratulations on your windows mount :)
[09:15] <jasmuz> piksi: SATA installs are troublesome sometimes
[09:16] <piksi> jasmuz: yeah, i've experienced that with both debian and ubuntu installers :-/
[09:16] <Subfix> Well, maybe it will install right
[09:16] <JDahl> piksi, sometimes changing BIOS settings will help
[09:16] <Subfix> HappyFool: the /lib/modules directory went crazy with Ubuntu
[09:17] <HappyFool> by 'went crazy' you mean?
[09:17] <piksi> JDahl: there are only User / Other Atapi / Auto for hdd and dvd drives, only dma/pio transfer modes can be changed :-<
[09:17] <jasmuz> piksi: how are you interfacing SATA drives to a laptop?
[09:17] <Subfix> HappyFool: the file structure differed from what it looked for when booting, so i copied the files around and now i get these version errors
[09:17] <brokeboy> anyone up to help an ubuntu newbie?
[09:18] <gpd> jasmuz: maybe he is using a SATA drive in a firewire / USB enclosure?
[09:18] <HappyFool> Subfix: worrying
[09:18] <jasmuz> brokeboy: what can we help you wiht?
[09:18] <Spudchat> thanks for the help i booted up in gnome and it worked!!!
[09:18] <jasmuz> with?
[09:18] <Subfix> HappyFool: I had a dir called '2.6.10-5-386' and it was looking for modules.dep in '2.6.11-6mdk'
[09:18] <piksi> jasmuz: gpd: no no, this is a builtin sata hdd with intel 82801fbe controller, the nec dvd works over atapi
[09:18] <brokeboy> just made the switch from windows and trying to get limewire up and running
[09:19] <crimsun> Subfix: that's odd. Why did you have a Mandriva/Mandrake kernel installed?
[09:19] <HappyFool> Subfix: mdk sounds like mandrake to me
[09:19] <jasmuz> gpd: that sounds unpractical, if you install ubuntu you would like to move around with it
[09:19] <Subfix> ...
[09:19] <Subfix> i never thought of that
[09:19] <brokeboy> think i'm having problems with java. (?)
[09:19] <jasmuz> piksi: ohh; cant help you much there....i dont know jack about laptops
[09:19] <Subfix> all i used was an ubuntu cd, although mandriva is installed on hdb
[09:19] <brk3> can anyone recommend whats the best laptop to use with linux?
[09:19] <cute_bettong> i can help with the java
[09:20] <cute_bettong> ^_^
[09:20] <deejoe_> brk3:  I just went into a store with a live CD and bought the one that I though worked best with it.
[09:20] <jasmuz> brokeboy: did you install java already?
[09:20] <cute_bettong> IBM THINKPAD has a good rep with Ubuntu
[09:20] <deejoe_> (of the ones they offered, that is)
[09:20] <piksi> jasmuz: well, the only thing i would need is a newer kernel for the ubuntu install :-/ but i don't know how to embed it into the iso
[09:20] <cute_bettong> afaik
[09:20] <JDahl> piksi, does Linux freeze during boot with kernel panic? I've had my shares of related problems
[09:20] <brk3> deejoe_: heh good idea
[09:21] <brk3> the main thing i want to work well is wlan
[09:21] <HappyFool> Subfix: very odd; I can't see why ubuntu would even know about the mandrake kernels
[09:21] <Subfix> wow
[09:21] <Arktis> brk3: compaqs are generally good (i have one) but I don't remember if they ever got the 3d mobility chips done.
[09:21] <Subfix> HappyFool: I just thought of something...
[09:21] <piksi> JDahl: knoppix 4.0 works perfectly immediately with both dvd boot and hdd install, but with ubuntu 5.04 and debian sarge installers they just fuckup
[09:21] <brokeboy> i dont know my ass from a hole in the ground about the ubuntu interface.  cant get the right program from sun website to run limewire with.  don't even know how to run the program if i got the right one.
[09:21] <jasmuz> piksi: The install cd runs with a 2.6.10-5 wich is the stable of that branch
[09:21] <piksi> JDahl: debian claims it cannot find any hdd or partitions and ubuntu says it cannot find cd-rom
[09:21] <Subfix> HappyFool: My bootloader was already installed on hdb, and I'm thinking I missed something basic here: the "Image" in the bootloader
[09:22] <brk3> is anyone using wlan here with a laptop?
[09:22] <alejandro> someone missing xmodmap command? now xbase-clients doesn't install it.
[09:22] <deejoe_> brk3: one thing that caught me up for a while was that they put little adhesive-backed anti-theft tags in the bed of the optical drives, which meant the CD wouldn't spin.  I peeled them off and relocated them, and then things worked normally.  Though, it made me a little nervous, even though the things were also locked down pretty tight with a cable.
[09:22] <highvoltage> brk3: i am
[09:22] <HappyFool> Subfix: possibly
[09:22] <linukso> brk3: me too
[09:22] <jasmuz> brokeboy: java can be done easier
[09:22] <Subfix> HappyFool: I think my bootloader is using a mandrake boot image... it's the only option there
[09:22] <Arktis> me too
[09:22] <brokeboy> how?
[09:22] <pfp> piksi: hmm, you could boot from knoppix, then clone a working ubuntu installation over the network... supposing one is available :)
[09:22] <TreeFrog> Hi all.. nice and busy here
[09:22] <brk3> highvoltage: what laptop?
[09:22] <Subfix> damn. it all makes sense now
[09:22] <highvoltage> TreeFrog: always :)
[09:22] <piksi> pfp: urgh, how the hell to do that? :-> any easier ways available? ;->
[09:23] <brk3> Arktis: what laptop?
[09:23] <highvoltage> brk3: IBM T42
[09:23] <Arktis> Compaq 2500
[09:23] <HappyFool> Subfix: the ubuntu hoary install was quite good about detecting other OS installs (well, only warty and windows xp) and adding them to grub's boot list
[09:23] <linukso> brk3: Dell inspiron 8100 with 3com wlan card
[09:23] <piksi> pfp: how about mounting ubuntu install cd iso to some point and replace the kernel with newer one configured properly?
[09:23] <JDahl> piksi, there's something broken with SATA support in the ramdisk image on Debian
[09:23] <Subfix> HappyFool: well, i think it installed grub on hda, and everything is booting from lilo
[09:23] <Subfix> hdb
[09:23] <brk3> is there a nice gui to using it?
[09:23] <HappyFool> Subfix: ah. anyway, i'm guessing if you tweak the lilo config you can fix it
[09:23] <piksi> JDahl: oh, can anything be done to fix it?
[09:24] <Arktis> what, the wlan?  sure.  but you've got to wrestle with ndiswrapper
[09:24] <brk3> Arktis: i hear there are ones you dont have to bother with ndiswrapper
[09:24] <Arktis> there are now native drivers for the rt2500usb (wusb54g)
[09:24] <pfp> piksi: could work, though i have no idea how to do that... :/
[09:25] <Arktis> it's an adapter that you can get at radio shack and plug into any computer
[09:25] <Arktis> (wireless)
[09:25] <Arktis> I have one
[09:25] <Spudchat> linukso, thanks the gnome terminal did it
[09:25] <Subfix> HappyFool: How do I uninstall the bootloader on hdb?
[09:25] <TreeFrog> Hey Anychance I can pick someones brains about setting up streamtuner and Mplayer setup?
[09:25] <JDahl> piksi, someone more informed than me tried to guide me through it, but I eventually gave up. You have to rebuild the ramdisk image, and be more generous with amount the of SATA related modules you load
[09:25] <HappyFool> Subfix: um
[09:26] <pfp> piksi: cloning mahcines over the net is quite simple, eg. "ssh root@workingmachine tar cpf - --exclude=/proc / | tar -xpf - -C /mnt/laptop"
[09:26] <HappyFool> Subfix: tell your BIOS to boot from hda maybe?
[09:26] <brk3> are the nc laptops that ubuntu are supporting new enough models?
[09:26] <piksi> JDahl: ok, thanks anyway :-)
[09:26] <Subfix> worth a try. thanks for the help...
[09:26] <HappyFool> Subfix: i'm not sure what you want to do
[09:26] <Arktis> dunno, brk3
[09:27] <HappyFool> Subfix: i would guess you could just boot mandrake, edit lilo.conf and run lilo to update the bootloader config
[09:27] <JDahl> piksi, in short, with the stock version, not all modules are loaded
[09:27] <Darth_Kernel> buenas!
[09:27] <Arktis> I'd try breezy for any newer laptops though.
[09:27] <erisco> is there anyway i can get ALL dev packages?
[09:27] <piksi> pfp: this sucks coz i have only this laptop :-D
[09:27] <Arktis> when I got mine, hoary was still in development and that's what I wnet with.  I really didn't have any problems.
[09:27] <delire> erisco: ?
[09:27] <Subfix> HappyFool: eh, well. my installation of ubuntu got effed up, so i need to reinstall that (that whole renameing folders bit changed some files automatically, to my surprise)
[09:28] <cute_bettong> in may i orderd 100 Ubuntu cd's how come i haven't gotten them yet
[09:28] <piksi> JDahl: i tried loading all sort of sata modules during installer bootup from a second console but apparently they were wrong or not enough :-/
[09:28] <delire> erisco: that's madness
[09:28] <lakin> with the default ubuntu install disks, is there a way to run the integrity checks before anything else?
[09:28] <cute_bettong> i got the 10 that i orderd but not the others >.<
[09:28] <glick> cute_bettong, took me a long time to get mine
[09:28] <JDahl> piksi, the installation is normally fine... it's the installed ramdisk than doesnt load all the modules you need
[09:28] <glick> they were shipped all the way from belgium and the media rate
[09:28] <lakin> cute_bettong, larger orders have more likelihood to be caught up in customs as well.
[09:28] <HappyFool> lakin: you can use 'md5sum' to check the disks, assuming you have a working computer
[09:28] <delire> cute_bettong: 2 months here
[09:28] <JDahl> piksi, (I think)
[09:29] <thrice`> cute_bettong, how the hell should we know that
[09:29] <cute_bettong> >.< damn woulden't they tell me about that though?
[09:29] <HappyFool> lakin: i.e., windows or other linux or whatever
[09:29] <lakin> HappyFool, I'm going to be getting my dad to do this over the phone, I'd prefer another way.
[09:29] <asfra> how do I  run a ' .sh ' -file? it's a bourne-again script? (no need to say that I'm a n00b i guess :)
[09:29] <Arktis> anybody know how to setup firestarter so it doesn't interfere with bittorrent?
[09:29] <thrice`> asfra, sh file.sh
[09:29] <TreeFrog> Hey is there a place I can go to ask some Newbei stuff about streamtuner setup? It is recking my head!!
[09:29] <piksi> JDahl: oh well... so apparently i need to wait for a new release? :-/ (since i'm not a master in tweaking the system)
[09:29] <lakin> The install has an integrity check builtin, but unless we pick expert, or a step fails, I'm not sure how to get to that first.
[09:29] <pfp> piksi: you should force some friend to install ubuntu :)
[09:29] <delire> asfra ./file.sh or sh file.sh
[09:29] <delire> asfra: the former only if it's executable
[09:29] <cute_bettong> if they got caught in customes woulden't they tell me?
[09:29] <HappyFool> lakin: sorry, i don't remember when the integrity check happens
[09:29] <piksi> pfp: my friend tried but eventually gave up and installed a bloated knoppix instead, i hate it ;->
[09:30] <JDahl> piksi, for me the installation always worked, but all subsequent boots would freeze with kernel panic... the bad news is that it's a well-documented critical bug, that people apparently doesnt care about
[09:30] <lakin> HappyFool, that's ok.  I'll do some more research.
[09:30] <asfra> delire: yes, this is what i have been trying, but didn't work.. i'll try what u said first.. thanks
[09:30] <crimsun> JDahl: I wouldn't say that they don't care about it, but have you provided enough debugging info for them?
[09:31] <cute_bettong> if the 100 cd's i orderd got stuck in custums woulden't i get a letter or something?
[09:31] <JDahl> crimsun, there was rants after rants about it one year ago Debian lists
[09:31] <anacron> AHHH my wlan works now, but how do i make wlan card found at boot?
[09:31] <piksi> JDahl: since knoppix works perfectly and is debian based ... can i assume debian and ubuntu would too after installation?
[09:32] <delire> anacron: see /etc/network/interfaces
[09:32] <glick> hey has anyone used the m68hcxx-gnu development tools?
[09:32] <Arktis> indeed.  auto wlan0
[09:32] <glick> gcc-m68hcxx
[09:32] <glick> ?
[09:32] <delire> anacron: also ensure any modules you need to support this card go into /etc/modules
[09:32] <anacron> oh man
[09:32] <anacron> how should i know which modules it uses...
[09:32] <JDahl> piksi, it depends on the hardware, I think..
[09:33] <joha> Hi all!
[09:33] <delire> anacron: do you remember loading any modules (drivers) to get it to work?
[09:33] <Arktis> anacron, you using ndiswrapper?
[09:33] <glick> has anyone cused the cross compiler?
[09:33] <joha> Is it possible to configure Ubuntu so that it doesn't lock the screen when returning from hibernation?
[09:33] <anacron> Arktis: no
[09:33] <HappyFool> knowing compilers, i imagine many people have cussed it
[09:33] <Arktis> oh.  nevermind then.
[09:33] <lemonspls> quick easy question: on the mirrors there are two directories /5.04 and /hoary both seem to contain the same latest version of ubuntu? why, or are there differnces?
[09:34] <anacron> delire: well i can get those, do i add all of them?
[09:34] <Arktis> lemonspls, try 'eenie meenie minie moe' =p
[09:34] <lemonspls> er
[09:34] <anacron> delire: it is some raltek based wlan drivers, so it load lot's of stuff
[09:34] <anacron> realtek*
[09:35] <Arktis> XD
[09:35] <lemonspls> so there is no difference? but why the hell are there two directories then?
[09:35] <Kyral> Anyone have any luck with Enlightened GNOME?
[09:35] <asfra> !wlan
[09:35] <ubotu> asfra: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:35] <anacron> where can i get enlightened gnome?
[09:35] <piksi> JDahl: ok, thanks...
[09:35] <Faco> I cant hear anything in an ubuntu hoary
[09:36] <Arktis> lemonspls, hang on a sec
[09:36] <lemonspls> Arktis: cool, thx
[09:36] <crimsun> Faco: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:36] <brk3> can anyone tell me what the evil with ndiswrapper is..?
[09:37] <glick> has anyone used the motorola cross compilation tools on ubuntu? do they work well?
[09:37] <Syco54645> anyone know of a good ad blacklist?
[09:37] <Faco> crimsum: doesnt exist the directory
[09:37] <Syco54645> i want to set my router up to block ads
[09:38] <delire> anacron: is it a PCMCIA adapater?
[09:38] <Faco> that was the answer
[09:38] <crimsun> Faco: lspci -v |grep udio
[09:38] <anacron> delire: it's a d-link dwl-510 card
[09:38] <brk3> what do people think of this laptop? http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=11490
[09:38] <brk3> wrong url :p http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=EC356UA%23ABA&que-id=x&BV_EngineID=cchfaddfghddidlcfngcfkmdfondfgf.0&BV_SessionID=%40%40%40%400933526361.1123442385%40%40%40%40&jumpid=re_r2122_advisors/adi/hpsh|notebook
[09:38] <Faco> nothing I guess, im gonna try something
[09:38] <lemonspls> Arktis: hm, thats not the problem i know my architecture. i just wonder why there seem to be two directories with the latest releases having 2 different names....
[09:38] <asfra> Is there any way to test that java has been correctly installed? I've tried the ' java -version ' and that looks ok..
[09:38] <brk3> sorry
[09:38] <delire> anacron: oh ok, well just make sure the pcmcia modules are in /etc/modules
[09:38] <brk3> asfra: try running a java program? :p
[09:38] <anacron> Syco54645: take peerguardians blocklist?
[09:39] <Arktis> i'd ignore it and just follow the links from the main page.
[09:39] <alrighta> How do I install Flash support to my firefox? "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla" doesn't work for me- it does not find the package
[09:39] <Arktis> it doesn't matter.
[09:39] <Syco54645> anacron, does peer guardian block ads?
[09:39] <lemonspls> Arktis: ok, so what the difference to the /hoary directory? it has 5.04 also
[09:39] <asfra> brk3: lol, this is what I'm doing and it hangs when installing..
[09:39] <anacron> Syco54645: it blocks everything :D
[09:39] <lemonspls> Arktis: hm, ok strange
[09:39] <Arktis> just use the main page links.
[09:39] <Arktis> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[09:39] <brk3> alrighta: click on a flash item in firefox and it will ask you do you want to install the plugin
[09:39] <Syco54645> anacron, i would rather not use it as most sites that i use on a regular are blocked with it
[09:39] <lemonspls> thx
[09:40] <brk3> asfra: maybe its just the app
[09:40] <juanej> anybody with a hp cd-writer 9100 series burning ok?
[09:40] <HappyFool> alrighta: you probably need to add network repositories; see this link (ubotu, below):
[09:40] <HappyFool> !repositories
[09:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:40] <brk3> whats the problem with ndiswrapper..? anyone?
[09:40] <EasterSunshine> postfix is the service that when i send mail to myself, puts it into /var/mail/username ?
[09:40] <asfra> brk3: yeah, I'll try to kill the process and start it again..
[09:40] <brk3> asfra: if the java- -version works its probably intalled ok
[09:40] <pfp> EasterSunshine: yes
[09:40] <alrighta> HappyFool, I've added the repositories.
[09:41] <HappyFool> alrighta: are you on amd64 by any chance?
[09:41] <alrighta> nope.
[09:41] <NoHope> hi all
[09:41] <HappyFool> alrighta: did you add the 'multiverse' repository?
[09:41] <anacron> hmm i'll let the wlan be, and go to sleep, good night everyone
[09:41] <NoHope> hey, how to search a package using apt-get?
[09:41] <crimsun> Faco: what type of sound card is it?
[09:42] <crimsun> NoHope: apt-cache search foo
[09:42] <crimsun> NoHope: or aptitude search foo
[09:42] <HappyFool> alrighta: that's where flashplayer-mozilla is. Finally, if you're using apt-get (not synaptic) run 'apt-get update'
[09:42] <NoHope> crimsun, uhmm... that's the error, I thought apt-get. thx.
[09:42] <kryps> where can i find docs on troubleshooting an installation halt, booting from live cd?
[09:43] <alrighta> HappyFool, I've already upgraded my system
[09:43] <Centaur> Why would the package manager not find the newest version of gaim?
[09:43] <HappyFool> alrighta: 'apt-get update' is different from 'apt-get upgrade'
[09:44] <thrice`> Centaur, because it's not in there
[09:44] <thrice`> unless you're using backports
[09:44] <HappyFool> alrighta: 'apt-get update' just updates what packages apt knows about
[09:44] <Madeye> guys i'm trying to install some extensions for mozilla browser but getting error permission denied couldn't install to your profile folder
[09:44] <kao> hello all
[09:44] <alrighta> HappyFool, alright - I'm doing it.
[09:44] <Madeye> where is the profile folder so i can chmod it
[09:44] <Centaur> thrice`: well when you reload the package manager isn't it suppossed to find the newest versions?
[09:45] <HappyFool> alrighta: anyway, flashplayer-mozilla is in hoary multiverse; what error do you get when you try to install it? (don't paste more than 2 lines here; paste onto a pastebin)
[09:45] <kao> anybody use scilab here
[09:45] <alrighta> HappyFool, as I've already mentioned, it simply does not find the package
[09:45] <stu> hi
[09:45] <brk3> HappyFool: dont bother with that shite, just get the linux tarball from the macromedia website
[09:45] <stu> how would you specify in iptables -s if you want to allow all ip's starting with 81.xxx.yyy.zzz?
[09:45] <brk3> it works the best
[09:45] <thrice`> Centaur, no; keep in mind that you are running the stable version of ubuntu, not development
[09:45] <Snippy> how can I run .sh files?
[09:45] <Snippy> !sh
[09:45] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Snippy
[09:46] <Faco> crimsum, my computer crashed when I tried something, I really have no idea because is my brothers computer but if you want I can send you an screenshot of the device manager
[09:46] <Centaur> thrice`: So ubuntu doesn't update the non-stable versions of programs?
[09:46] <HappyFool> Snippy: try 'sh filename'
[09:46] <brk3> Snippy: ./file.sh
[09:46] <HappyFool> Snippy: where filename is the file in question
[09:46] <thrice`> Centaur, no; it only updates packages if there are security flaws
[09:46] <kryps> when i boot ubunto 5.04 live cd (i386 machine, celeron 400), it starts loading a bunch of stuff (black screen), but pauses after "    uhci-hcd: loaded successfully"
[09:47] <kao> 2Snippy: try ./blah-blah-blah.sh
[09:47] <Snippy> thanks
[09:47] <Centaur> thrice`: Okay, so I guess I should just manually update the newest version?
[09:47] <Faco> crimsun: I have just installed ubuntu here
[09:48] <Snippy> I get a permission denied
[09:48] <HappyFool> try 'sh filename'
[09:48] <crimsun> Faco: what type of sound card is it?
[09:48] <Snippy> thanks worked
[09:48] <synd> how do you unblock someone in gaim?
[09:49] <kao> 2kryps: afaik, it's troubles with usb, so load livecd with no-usb option
[09:49] <kao> 2Shippy: chmod +x
[09:49] <Faco> as I explained you I have no idea, I dont know, but if you want I can send you an screenshot of the device manager
[09:49] <alrighta> HappyFool, still, it doesn't find the package(flashplayer-mozilla)
[09:49] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:49] <kryps> kao: so, i go into the bios of my pc, and find the option to turn off usb?
[09:49] <crimsun> Faco: paste the output from lspci -v onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:50] <HappyFool> alrighta: did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add repositories?
[09:50] <BiSK-8> what is the program that replaces itunes on ubuntu?
[09:50] <nophix> rhythmbox or amarok
[09:50] <synd> how do you unblock someone in gaim?
[09:50] <Faco> ok ill try
[09:50] <BiSK-8> can i get em through apt-get?
[09:50] <HappyFool> alrighta: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ ?
[09:50] <nophix> yes
[09:50] <BiSK-8> and which is better?
[09:51] <kao> BiSK-8, maybe rhymbox
[09:51] <nophix> amarok imho :)
[09:51] <alrighta> HappyFool, I did that thru Synapatic.
[09:51] <BiSK-8> ok
[09:51] <BiSK-8> thanks
[09:51] <hersson> holas
[09:51] <HappyFool> alrighta: are you sure you added 'multiverse' ?
[09:51] <HappyFool> alrighta: multiverse is not the same thing as universe
[09:51] <Faco> sorry crimsun but what is paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[09:52] <crimsun> Faco: it's a web site we use for debugging
[09:52] <synd> Faco: a URL to paste things
[09:52] <synd> :P
[09:52] <hersson> holas alguien de bolivia
[09:52] <Faco> ok and where do I find it?
[09:52] <synd> hersson: #ubuntu-es
[09:52] <alrighta> HappyFool, I've added everything there. I've installed tons of apps and so far this has been the only problem.
[09:53] <HappyFool> alrighta: ok, can you please put /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin anyway?
[09:53] <HappyFool> alrighta: you should be able to read that file with gedit
[09:53] <kryps> what linux distro did anyone use before using ubuntu?
[09:54] <EasterSunshine> mandrakelinux le 2005, it was much worse
[09:54] <brk3> who cares
[09:54] <brk3> mandrake :p
[09:54] <arbir> Hello....
[09:54] <EasterSunshine> mandrake was my first distro, kubuntu my second
[09:54] <Faco> crimsun: I doing it know, a second
[09:54] <transgre1s> what's up peoples?!
[09:55] <arbir> how can I rip my DVD's to Xvid ? is there a software for that ?
[09:55] <transgre1s> arbir: dvd::rip and transcoder
[09:55] <ompaul> transgre1s, lots of ubuntu boxes :)
[09:55] <arbir> i did see http://www.thoggen.net/   <---  this chap uses theora
[09:55] <Faco> crimsun:  done
[09:55] <transgre1s> ompaul: hehehe
[09:55] <transgre1s> airport wifi
[09:55] <transgre1s> oh yeah
[09:55] <alrighta> HappyFool, now that I checked both with edit and Synaptic - I see I actually don't have multiuniverse.
[09:56] <arbir> transgrels is there a website that you can tell me which can guide me?
[09:56] <kryps> can i install linux on a amd 1.3ghz with 256mb ram, etc. ?
[09:56] <alrighta> HappyFool, lol..
[09:56] <EasterSunshine> you mean multiverse?
[09:56] <kryps> multiverse?
[09:56] <alrighta> HappyFool - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1027
[09:57] <alrighta> yup
[09:57] <HappyFool> alrighta: ok, add multiverse with synaptic, and try again
[09:57] <EasterSunshine> kryps: probably
[09:57] <HappyFool> alrighta: you don't need 'apt-get update' if you're using synaptic -- it will handle that automatically
[09:57] <EasterSunshine> but it depends on your processor architecture
[09:57] <HappyFool> alrighta: after you add multiverse, it should download package info, and the package you want will be available
[09:57] <EasterSunshine> if its intel pentium 1,2,3, or 4, it should work
[09:58] <transgre1s> hey does anyone know if an mac (as in not the windows version) ipod will work with gtkpod?
[09:58] <transgre1s> err a mac
[09:58] <crimsun> Faco: url?
[09:58] <kryps> EasterSunshine, someone said for me to load with no usb option.. did he mean goto bios, and find an option to turn off usb, so i can pass this usb stage where my installation (live cd) has halted.. ?
[09:58] <EasterSunshine> i am running kubuntu on 450 mhz pentium 3, 128 ram
[09:58] <Faco> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1026
[09:58] <cute_bettong> join ##apple
[09:58] <transgre1s> EasterSunshine: how's it run?
[09:58] <delire> transgre1s: yes
[09:58] <transgre1s> cute_bettong: are you saying that to me/
[09:58] <Faco> crimsun: sorry Im kind of new in this
[09:58] <Syco54645> transgre1s, there is a windows ipod?
[09:58] <cute_bettong> yes
[09:58] <transgre1s> Syco54645: yeah two different filesystems
[09:58] <transgre1s> Syco54645: because windows doesn't support HFS
[09:59] <Syco54645> transgre1s, ah i see... i never knew that
[09:59] <arbir> transgre1s: can i make it an MKV format ?
[09:59] <EasterSunshine> transgre1s: good enough for me. window resizes are like the only thing that annoys me cause the contents take a while to move
[09:59] <arbir> transgre1s: also i need to have enternal subtitles.. will this support all this ?
[09:59] <psurani> how can i get kde ?
[09:59] <EasterSunshine> kryps: i'm not a linux guru so i can't really help you there, sry
[09:59] <psurani> how can i get kde ? for ubuntu ?
[09:59] <transgre1s> arbir: iuno... i don't use it... i pirate movies that are already encoded... much easier.
[09:59] <Syco54645> psurani, ept-get install kde
[09:59] <transgre1s> psurani: aptitude install kde
[09:59] <psurani> ept or apt ?
[10:00] <transgre1s> Syco54645: you beat me
[10:00] <carrero> hi
[10:00] <EasterSunshine> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, isn't it?
[10:00] <arbir> you mean already ripped and set to Xvid by somebody ? @ transgre1s
[10:00] <thoreauputic> actually for kde, do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <WeirdAl> I'm trying to install libgtkmm-2.4, and I'm on some wild goose chase of dependencies.
[10:00] <Syco54645> transgre1s, that is pretty bad considering i have never ran ubuntu or debian till 2 days ago... and i am on the live cd because i have no harddrive
[10:00] <Syco54645> lol
[10:00] <delire> psurani: or apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for an 'ubuntuised' KDE
[10:00] <WeirdAl> Everything I try to install depends on something else which is available but "is not going to be installed".
[10:00] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: right :)
[10:00] <transgre1s> Syco54645: you have no hard drive?
[10:00] <WeirdAl> But it won't tell me why it's not going to be installed.
[10:01] <psurani> delire, how much size it is ?
[10:01] <psurani> i have 40kbps connection
[10:01] <WeirdAl> Why will it not install dependencies and how do I force it to.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: your problem is your sources list
[10:01] <delire> psurani: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop. maybe there's information as to total size there (i doubt it)
[10:01] <Syco54645> transgre1s, well i have 2 120 gig dump drives that are full of smashing pumpkins concerts, so i dare not format one of those.  i just need to get some money so that i can get a new main drive
[10:01] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: see below
[10:01] <thoreauputic> !repos
[10:01] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be fount at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:02] <psurani> ok thnx !
[10:02] <transgre1s> Syco54645: haha yeah my boss just gave me a lot of spare drives for work... i gotta put them in my box
[10:02] <transgre1s> my current is getting full of mp3s from a russian mp3 site
[10:02] <Syco54645> transgre1s, feel free to mail me one
[10:02] <EasterSunshine> i have 8 gigs total in my entire house. beat that
[10:02] <psurani> Package: kubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <psurani> Priority: optional
[10:02] <psurani> Section: misc
[10:02] <psurani> Installed-Size: 32
[10:02] <psurani> Maintainer: Andreas Mueller <amu@ubuntu.com>
[10:02] <psurani> Architecture: i386
[10:02] <aru> heh
[10:02] <transgre1s> EasterSunshine: almost 9 gigs total of mp3s... eh
[10:03] <psurani> is it 32mb ??
[10:03] <transgre1s> oh getting kubuntu-desktop is probably a bad idea
[10:03] <transgre1s> from ubuntu
[10:03] <HappyFool> psurani: installing kubuntu-desktop will require a large download
[10:03] <transgre1s> it worked badly for me
[10:03] <Janeway> hi there
[10:03] <transgre1s> best to go from kubuntu to ubuntu
[10:03] <thoreauputic> psurani: it's just a metapackage
[10:03] <psurani> 32 mb isnt that large !
[10:03] <EasterSunshine> i meant 8 gigs of hdd space
[10:03] <HappyFool> psurani: probably more than 100MB
[10:03] <Syco54645> i dont like kde, i feel that it is way too bloated
[10:03] <psurani> oh damn
[10:03] <delire> psurani: around 40mb i thought
[10:03] <Syco54645> i used it for over 3 years
[10:03] <transgre1s> i like kde, but i feel it looks too big
[10:03] <thoreauputic> psurani: the dependencies make it over 100mb
[10:03] <transgre1s> i like small things
[10:03] <psurani> Package: kubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <psurani> Priority: optional
[10:03] <psurani> Section: misc
[10:03] <psurani> Installed-Size: 32
[10:03] <psurani> Maintainer: Andreas Mueller <amu@ubuntu.com>
[10:03] <psurani> Architecture: i386
[10:03] <Syco54645> now i switched to gnome about 6 months ago
[10:03] <Syco54645> after running rox
[10:03] <HappyFool> psurani: please don't paste here
[10:03] <psurani> this one isnt enough ?? happyfool ?
[10:04] <transgre1s> stop that psurani
[10:04] <Janeway> do you mind an absolute newbie asking an install question?
[10:04] <EasterSunshine> kde feels comprehensive and complete
[10:04] <psurani> ok sorry
[10:04] <psurani> yes kde is better
[10:04] <thoreauputic> psurani: please read the /topic and stop spamming the channel
[10:04] <aru> kde feels like windows
[10:04] <HappyFool> psurani: as thoreauputic said, it's a meta-package. It only exists to depend on other packages
[10:04] <transgre1s> not to me
[10:04] <Syco54645> Janeway, nope, not at all
[10:04] <transgre1s> of course i set it to have the bar at the top like mac
[10:04] <psurani> i see
[10:04] <transgre1s> which makes me happy
[10:04] <WeirdAl> thoreauputic: same problem, even with that sources.list
[10:04] <transgre1s> and i'd give money to have gnome do it
[10:04] <WeirdAl> libgtkmm-2.4-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-dev but it is not going to be installed
[10:04] <HappyFool> psurani: try 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' -- aptitude will tell you how much it's going to download
[10:05] <aru> transgre1s: to do what?
[10:05] <pusling> is it easy to change a minimal sarge install to ubuntu warty ?
[10:05] <transgre1s> psurani: i wouldn't try grabbing kubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <EasterSunshine> kde is a good heavyweight wm, icewm is for those of you that prefer lightweight simple ones
[10:05] <transgre1s> it worked badly for me
[10:05] <WeirdAl> libgtk2.0-dev depends another, which depends two others, and I'm getting annoyed searching for them all.
[10:05] <transgre1s> aru: have the menu bar from windows at the top of the screen ala mac UI
[10:05] <Janeway> I've gottten so far as to the point "set up users and passwords" - after enabling "shadow" I'm asked to enter a root-pw - however I've read so much about not setting one - how shall I continue? Leave it blank?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: if you are getting those errors, either you have an incomplete list, are using 3rd party repos or haven't run an update/reload
[10:05] <HappyFool> psurani: i get 142MB to download when I try that
[10:05] <psurani> ahh
[10:05] <psurani> too much
[10:05] <HappyFool> Janeway: are you doing an expert or server install?
[10:05] <Syco54645> Janeway, i would suggest setting one for security, but that is just me
[10:06] <EasterSunshine> psurani: you can get kubuntu cds for free
[10:06] <transgre1s> yeah in like 8 weeks heh
[10:06] <EasterSunshine> oh wait...no you can't
[10:06] <Janeway> expert mode, since I want to keep my win for the time being (as I said, newbie)
[10:06] <psurani> from where ??
[10:06] <EasterSunshine> or can you? is it available with shipit yet?
[10:06] <transgre1s> oh yeah that's right... they said no kubuntu cd's
[10:06] <transgre1s> nope
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Janeway: you should only be asked for a root password if you do the "expert" install
[10:06] <psurani> ahh
[10:06] <HappyFool> Janeway: i may be wrong, but i think the normal install will let you keep other installed operating systems
[10:06] <transgre1s> anyway... ima bolt
[10:06] <Janeway> you think so?
[10:06] <EasterSunshine> maybe download kubuntu at school or work or something
[10:06] <WeirdAl> thor: did update and dist-upgrade and same error.
[10:07] <psurani> hey, whoever is talking to me, i see message in red, hows that ?
[10:07] <equex> HappyFool: ubuntu will keep the other oses, i tried
[10:07] <transgre1s> just thought i'd get on and say how i was at the airport soon to go to the beach
[10:07] <psurani> rrr
[10:07] <WeirdAl> Using the sources.list in paste.ubuntu
[10:07] <transgre1s> buh bye now
[10:07] <equex> it will even auto create menys for your kernels
[10:07] <Janeway> I thought it would erase the entire harddrive and kill my previous partitions
[10:07] <equex> grub rocks
[10:07] <EasterSunshine> psurani: cause we include your name in the msg
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Janeway: if you are new, don't use "expert" - and Ubuntu will set up dual boot with windows
[10:07] <psurani> ahh i see
[10:07] <HappyFool> equex: ok, thanks for the confirmation
[10:07] <chiisai_> I'm thinking about switching to the *-smp kernel, as I have a Pentium 4 HT processor. I've heard that this makes stuff run smoother if you're multitasking, but I also heard that some things runs slower. Does somebody know anything about this? A before and after comparison or something?
[10:07] <psurani> EasterSunshine, , can u see it in red ?
[10:07] <EasterSunshine> yes
[10:07] <psurani> cool chat !
[10:07] <Janeway> I see - so what do I do now - cancel the installation and start from scratch?
[10:07] <ompaul> pusling, it failed for me but http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge ymmv
[10:08] <EasterSunshine> ...
[10:08] <equex> HappyFool: the other way is probably different :D
[10:08] <crimsun> Faco: sec
[10:08] <HappyFool> Janeway: that's what i'd do
[10:08] <psurani> are u people always here in ubuntu chat room to other people ? will i always get help from here ?
[10:08] <ompaul> pusling, then I did it wrong :)
[10:08] <Faco> ok
[10:08] <AndieB> Hi all!
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Janeway: I would if I were you - else you will have problems
[10:08] <Faco> crimsun: ok
[10:08] <EasterSunshine> psurani: i came in here asking for help, and i soon found myself helping others or at least trying to
[10:08] <HappyFool> psurani: usually; it obviously depends if we know the answer
[10:08] <ompaul> psurani, lots of people are here lots of the time
[10:08] <Janeway> ok, thanks a million :)
[10:08] <delire> psurani: this is a good place to come for human to human help
[10:08] <psurani> wow, cool
[10:08] <thoreauputic> psurani: there are people here 24/7
[10:09] <psurani> delire, ,yeah ofcourse, maybe i someday be able to help someone here !
[10:09] <AndieB> Question: How do I add a program in the Toolbar, that is not available in the Program menu? I've installed jEdit, but must everytime choose Run a program...
[10:09] <crashd> AndieB: right click, locate the program
[10:09] <sedat> hi all
[10:09] <crashd> right click > add
[10:09] <crashd> sorry
[10:09] <delire> psurani: that's the idea ;)
[10:09] <psurani> delire, , yeah !
[10:09] <crimsun> Faco: ok, you have an ISA sound card. I can't guess which one because there are quite a few. Please search Google and find what sound chipset your motherboard has.
[10:09] <equex> this channel is so huge it should really be split up into sections like #ubuntu-gnome, #ubuntu-ATI etc :)
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Janeway: just make sure you don't allow the installer to wipe your disc - you will be asked what you want
[10:10] <psurani> ok bbl !
[10:10] <cute_betton1> that really really sucked
[10:10] <HappyFool> #ubuntu-desktop-and-other-religious-wars
[10:10] <cute_betton1> stupid breaker
[10:10] <equex> hehe
[10:10] <delire> psurani: ciao!
[10:10] <thoreauputic> equex: both #gentoo and #debian are much bigger
[10:10] <psurani> bye delire
[10:10] <EasterSunshine> equex: agreed. as someone once said "it looks like tetris level 50 in here"
[10:10] <equex> hehehe EasterSunshine
[10:10] <Janeway> ok - I'll make sure of that
[10:10] <cute_betton1> run 2 computers and the microwave the sterio and an air conditioner and poof >.<
[10:10] <HappyFool> #python enforced a numerical split, sort of. not sure if they still do
[10:10] <AndieB> crashd: Hmmm...
[10:10] <equex> #debian may be larger, but it is quieter
[10:11] <equex> i dont wander into #gentoo
[10:11] <delire> #debian has far more lurkers. this channel often looks busier even though it's 2/3 the size of #debian.
[10:11] <EasterSunshine> well then agian, if we split the channels, they will all be full of idlers, like #kubuntu
[10:11] <thoreauputic> equex: you obviously haven't spent much time in #debian ;)
[10:11] <AndieB> crashd: Well, I don't get an opportunity to choose what program I want to add...
[10:11] <Slipaway172> how do i register a irc room to my nick?
[10:11] <EasterSunshine> i use kubuntu, but its too idle, so i came here
[10:11] <delire> i think this channel works well
[10:11] <Faco> crimsun: just a question what do I have to write in google to find that information? I don't know sorry
[10:11] <delire> very well in fact.
[10:11] <Slipaway172> yes
[10:12] <equex> thore: its not level 50, its level 40 :)
[10:12] <BiSK-8> 'lo
[10:12] <alrighta> HappyFool, sorry for the long wait. I had to handle something - well, I don't find any multiverse in my Synaptic, only universe.
[10:12] <BiSK-8> how do i install the pdf plugin 4 firefox?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> equex: if you measure by need for flame-proof underwear, on the other hand... *g*
[10:12] <HappyFool> alrighta: hmm
[10:12] <pusling> ompaul: I just changed my sources.list - and until now - the only package needed special treatment was perl-base
[10:12] <HappyFool> alrighta: how do you add repositories?
[10:13] <equex> heh
[10:13] <HappyFool> alrighta: Settings -> Repositories -> Add ?
[10:13] <HappyFool> alrighta: are you running ubuntu 5.04 (i.e., "the hoary hedgehog")
[10:13] <crimsun> Faco: you need to search for your computer and locate the sound card used
[10:13] <ompaul> pusling, great
[10:13] <pusling> ompaul: but it is a quite minimal system
[10:13] <BiSK-8> how do i install the pdf plugin 4 firefox?
[10:13] <equex> thore: for some reason xchat will not autocomplete you name :/
[10:13] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: no need to repeat
[10:14] <El_Presidente> hi there :)
[10:14] <pusling> ompaul: only what debootstrap gives me
[10:14] <ompaul> pusling, that is small :)
[10:14] <BiSK-8> sry
[10:14] <pusling> ompaul: yeah - but that is almost what I need (and ssh, apache2, phpmyadmin, mysql and what they depend on ;)
[10:14] <alrighta> HappyFool, no.. until now I only used the "Show disabled software sources" option and then I checked what wasn't unchecked. I thought it contained both universe and multiverse
[10:14] <EasterSunshine> hey does ubuntu outperform other distros running only as a server, like without x, or kde, or gnome, or anything?
[10:15] <HappyFool> alrighta: ok, uncheck that box
[10:15] <Faco> crimsun: ok I got it, I'll do it now
[10:15] <ompaul> pusling, I would have build a ubuntu server and gone native from the off, unless you have 'funny' hardware
[10:15] <EasterSunshine> just apache and vssftpd and friends, for example?
[10:15] <pusling> ompaul: linux vserver
[10:15] <ompaul> ahhhh ha
[10:15] <Pega> Hmm. About this Ubuntu's basic text editor... How do I make it so, that it won't make a new line every time the text raches right side of the window? I want it to continue to wirte as long lines as I want.
[10:15] <BiSK-8> thoreauputic: u tell me not 2 reapeat but i dont get answers
[10:15] <pusling> ompaul: they are easily build  with debootstrap
[10:15] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: it's on a par - obviously it is almost the same as debian so...
[10:15] <ompaul> pusling, limits one alright
[10:15] <HappyFool> alrighta: then, go back to the 'Repositories' screen, and click 'Add'
[10:16] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: that's par for the course - have a bit of patience
[10:16] <HappyFool> alrighta: you should see a new window which will let you add multiverse
[10:16] <sedat> I have some easy question to ask
[10:16] <sedat> who can help me
[10:16] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: if someone knows, they will help you
[10:16] <pusling> ompaul: yeah - and I just need an environment with mysql 4.0.20 ;)
[10:16] <EasterSunshine> just ask sedat
[10:16] <sedat> okey
[10:16] <sedat> can I change the files in ntfs from ubuntu
[10:17] <flodine> anyone load ion3
[10:17] <Fizile> anyone use a playstation emulator here?
[10:17] <Xyc1> I am trying to compile a simple gwifi applet and I get this error: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install, even though gnome-libs-data is installed.  Any hints?
[10:17] <delire> flodine: i did for a while
[10:17] <pusling> sedat: if you don't change file size - and only edit existing files, it might work
[10:17] <EasterSunshine> sedat: i read that there is a high chance you will damage the filesystem
[10:17] <AndieB> hmmm....
[10:17] <alrighta> HappyFool, okay, done that. I could use the apt-get answell, right?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: I once got an answer in #fluxbox after waiting over an hour - here it's usually quicker ;)
[10:17] <flodine> delire what you running now
[10:17] <HappyFool> alrighta: after you've added multiverse, yes
[10:17] <sedat> actually
[10:17] <EasterSunshine> sedat: the current ntfs driver only assures safety in reading, not writing
[10:17] <delire> flodine: i moved to a better implementation of the No-WIMP concept. http://wmi.modprobe.de
[10:17] <BiSK-8> :D
[10:17] <sedat> can I create a dr in ntfs
[10:17] <delire> flodine: they also have better t-shirts
[10:18] <sedat> directory
[10:18] <HappyFool> alrighta: you cannot change repositories with apt-get; at that level (the command-line) you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:18] <Tomcat__> sedat: Not safely.
[10:18] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: probably a lot of people don't use a pdf plugin (I don't, for one)
[10:18] <Faco> Crimsun: Model:Crystal Semiconductor      Chip set:CS4236
[10:18] <sedat> okey
[10:18] <flodine> delire you on that now
[10:18] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: any reason for not simply opening a pdf in say, xpdf ?
[10:19] <AndieB> What must I do, when I've installed Java2 SDK and try to start the JavaControlPanel via the Program Menu, and I get the following error message: "Failed to run childprocess "/usr/bin/JavaPluginControlPanel" (the file or catalogue does not exist).
[10:19] <BiSK-8> caz it's a web page
[10:19] <Faco> crimsun: is that the information you need?
[10:19] <delire> flodine: yes, i love it.
[10:19] <AndieB> What do I type at the "prompt" in a Terminal window so search for a file through the hole File System...
[10:19] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: a pdf is a pdf - what do you mean?
[10:19] <flodine> delire does it have debian menu in it
[10:19] <delire> flodine: i work alot in the terminal. i am most productive with this environment.
[10:19] <alrighta> HappyFool, I've checked all of the sources. right?
[10:20] <HappyFool> alrighta: that should work
[10:20] <jyank> Hello, could anyone try to help me with an issue i'm having with gnome?
[10:20] <flodine> yeababy
[10:20] <HappyFool> alrighta: note that there's a little drop-down box at the top of that window
[10:20] <HappyFool> alrighta: it lets you choose 'updates', 'security-updates' and 'ubuntu'
[10:20] <delire> flodine: no, it has a CTRL-ALT-P menu that appears 'inside' the panel. you can scroll or text complete on any application in your path.
[10:20] <HappyFool> alrighta: you may wish to enable all of those
[10:20] <Seveas> AndieB, slocate
[10:20] <HappyFool> alrighta: anyway, it ought to work now
[10:20] <Howdy125> bisk-8 in firefox click tools then extentions .. then click get more extentions and do a search for pdf ..
[10:21] <flodine> delire whats the command to install
[10:21] <jkinz> MENICK
[10:21] <transgre1s> okay i'm back
[10:21] <HappyFool> alrighta: go back to the repositories window -- you should see that the list it shows is updated. Click OK and new package info should be added
[10:21] <delire> flodine: without ranting, it's better than any application menu i've used in any other desktop environment.
[10:21] <transgre1s> got through security with like my keys in my pocket, my belt, and my big metal ear plugs
[10:21] <sedat> is there a shortcut for to go desktop
[10:21] <transgre1s> weird
[10:21] <flodine> delire whats the command to install
[10:21] <Seveas> sedat, the little icon in the bottom left
[10:21] <BiSK-8> i got a problem
[10:21] <HappyFool> sedat: maybe Ctl-Alt-d (on normal ubuntu)
[10:21] <delire> flodine: well see this page: http://wmi.modprobe.de/index.php/WMII/Download
[10:21] <Xyc1> I get configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install when I try to ./configure gwireless applet.  What am I doing wrong?
[10:21] <Seveas> sedat, and you can set a keyboard shortcut yourself too :)
[10:22] <HappyFool> as i discovered when I tried to use that in emacs
[10:22] <alrighta> HappyFool, yes, but now I've got to do the same with "updates" and "ubuntu". ;)
[10:22] <sedat> working thanks
[10:22] <delire> flodine: add that repository to your repo list.
[10:22] <flodine> delire no apt get
[10:22] <HappyFool> alrighta: yes, i recommend you do that
[10:22] <flodine> o
[10:22] <delire> flodine: what are you using?
[10:22] <HappyFool> alrighta: yeah, unfortunately you have to do them separately
[10:22] <BiSK-8> firefox>extentions: error
[10:22] <Seveas> BiSK-8, upgrade to the latest firefox in hoary-security
[10:22] <Fizile> any one here use a PSX emulator on ubuntu?
[10:22] <Octane> how do i force install of a packge w/ dpkg ignoring dependencies??
[10:22] <jyank> Hello, could anyone try to help me with an issue i'm having with gnome?
[10:22] <HappyFool> synaptic needs an 'add everything' button
[10:22] <delire> flodine: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wmii' once those repositories are in place.
[10:23] <BiSK-8> how
[10:23] <BiSK-8> ?
[10:23] <Seveas> Octane, --force-ignore-depends oslt
[10:23] <Octane> its really important :)
[10:23] <Seveas> read the dpkg manpage :)
[10:23] <Howdy125> Bisk-8 .. you get an error when you click on extentions ??
[10:23] <BiSK-8> yep
[10:23] <Octane> Seveas:  thanks i did but couldnt find it
[10:23] <alrighta> HappyFool.. there is a problem, I checked them all at first, and now when I look at all of this choices, I don't see even one that has all the sources checked.
[10:23] <HappyFool> alrighta: oh
[10:23] <HappyFool> alrighta: click ok between each
[10:23] <HappyFool> alrighta: you need to add each separately
[10:23] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: what version of firefox? Check help >> about (should be 1.0.6)
[10:24] <Howdy125> Bisk-8 .. I can't help with that error .. it should be working .. sorry ..
[10:24] <HappyFool> alrighta: sorry, it's getting late, i'm probably not making much sense. You need to add each of 'ubuntu', 'updates' and 'security-updates' separarately
[10:24] <BiSK-8> it's 1.0.6
[10:24] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: should work then - what's the error?
[10:24] <Seveas> Octane, dpkg --ignore-depends=package1 --ignore-depends=package2 etc...
[10:25] <delire> BiSK-8: make sure you have permissions to write to ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:25] <sedat> when I connect a usb harddisk to computer I see all partitons. Then I shut one of partition. How can I see it again
[10:25] <Seveas> Octane, dpkg --ignore-depends=package1,package2 ,package3 <-- this works better
[10:25] <alrighta> HappyFool, but I've done that process before, and I don't see any section with all of the sources marked.
[10:25] <alrighta> HappyFool, perhaps, it doesn't update those 3 sections at first?
[10:25] <flodine> delire i get error when i add that to the repos
[10:25] <delire> flodine: ok
[10:25] <BiSK-8> if u ppl wanna see the error i'll send u a screen shot
[10:25] <HappyFool> alrighta: do this. tick all the boxes, and click OK
[10:25] <delire> flodine: hah, i do to
[10:25] <BiSK-8> who wants it?
[10:26] <HappyFool> alrighta: then, click 'Add' again, choose a different option (say 'security'), tick all the boxes and click OK
[10:26] <delire> flodine: must be down. have you compiled software on Linux before?
[10:26] <HappyFool> alrighta: do you understand?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> BiSK-8: put the error on a pastebin - see /topic
[10:26] <alrighta> HappyFool, ta. I do and I did, from the beginning. :) alright
[10:26] <Faco> crimsun: do you need something else?
[10:26] <BiSK-8> i cant, wint let me copy
[10:26] <flodine> delire add the debian one right
[10:26] <BiSK-8> wont*
[10:26] <sedat> is there a tool for partitioning in ubuntu
[10:26] <BiSK-8> i'll put it on my site
[10:27] <thoreauputic> sedat: yes
[10:27] <sedat> which ?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> sedat: fdisk, cfdisk
[10:27] <HappyFool> alrighta: i hope it's working. i'm keen to go to sleep ;)
[10:27] <delire> flodine: yes, it's down however. you may want it to consider compiling it. grab a snapshot and see how you go.
[10:27] <EasterSunshine> sedat: btw, i don't think those are ubuntu specific. if you ever swtich to any other distro, they should still be there
[10:28] <guardianx> u?how do i increase my refresh rate in unbunto
[10:28] <alrighta> HappyFool, well, don't wait for me.. atm it's updating the packages
[10:28] <HappyFool> alrighta: great, so it is working
[10:28] <Janeway> is this channel always full of people (just curious)
[10:28] <BiSK-8> http://bisk8.altervista.org/immagini/blablabla.png
[10:28] <HappyFool> ok, good night
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Janeway: yes
[10:28] <alrighta> HappyFool, still there? ;[
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Janeway: not always this busy though :)
[10:28] <delire> Janeway: but close ;)
[10:28] <guardianx> how do i increase my refresh rate in unbuntu ?
[10:28] <EasterSunshine> its cause its sunday in the united states
[10:28] <alrighta> ops :/
[10:29] <Seveas> 534 is quite a high number of people
[10:29] <Janeway> thoreauputic: good to hear :) guess I'll need some more help in the next days *s*
[10:29] <thoreauputic> guardianx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:29] <Seveas> usually 480-510 people around
[10:29] <thoreauputic> Janeway: that's what we're here for :)
[10:29] <EasterSunshine> out of curiosty, anyone here speak bemba?
[10:30] <DonL> no
[10:30] <Janeway> phew ... seems to have worked so far
[10:30] <jharrison> any ideas why sound does not work?
[10:30] <Pega> Hmm. About this Ubuntu's basic text editor... How do I make it so, that it won't make a new line every time the text raches right side of the window? I want it to continue to wirte as long lines as I want.
[10:30] <jharrison> I get errors about no volume control elements/device exists
[10:30] <jharrison> however sound works fine with the ubuntu live cd
[10:31] <thoreauputic> Pega: the word wrap option - I forget which menu entry it's under but you can change it
[10:31] <delire> Janeway: if there was ever a social contract in this channel it's "pass on what you learn".. but it's very unconditional ;)
[10:31] <BiSK-8> thoreauputic, delire, Howdy125 --->http://bisk8.altervista.org/immagini/blablabla.png
[10:31] <Janeway> and it did ask me about my partitions (just hope I set it correctly - at least it recognized xp)
[10:31] <DonL> Anybody seen Apple's new Mighty Mouse, and if so do you know if it will work with Linux?
[10:32] <Pega> ty, thoreauputic
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Janeway: sounds promising :)
[10:32] <eazel7> hi ppl
[10:32] <delire> BiSK-8: does this happen with other extensions?
[10:32] <Janeway> delire: glad to hear that
[10:32] <guardianx> i have a compaq sr1010z with build in vid card. how do i install the driver for it ?? the low refresh rate is killing my eye
[10:33] <Janeway> thoreauputic: well, I won't count my chickens before they've hatched ... *ggg*
[10:33] <BiSK-8> delire: yes
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Janeway: you should be fine as long as you didn't let it take over the whole disc
[10:34] <Janeway> thoreauputic: the whole disc?
[10:34] <delire> DonL: i don't understand that mouse, but perhaps someone else does long enough to write a driver. Apple aren't very good with hardware interoperability.
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Janeway: you have one hard disc or more?
[10:34] <jharrison> ive modprobed the sound driver snd_emu10k1 which as far as I know is for the audigy 2 get there seems to be no sound devices
[10:34] <jharrison> also the user is in the audio group
[10:34] <DonL> delire, I see. Looks cool though
[10:34] <delire> DonL: i doubt they will release the driver source code for that mouse in a hurry.
[10:34] <DonL> Apparently works with XP
[10:34] <delire> DonL: hmm
[10:35] <Janeway> thoreauputic: I've got the package of two discs - one install, one live - I used the install one
[10:35] <|angasul|> is it possible to use a 2.6.4 kernel or older? newer kernels don't seem to get along with a saitek x45 joystick
[10:35] <Janeway> thoreauputic: and tried to follow instructions for a change *g*
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Janeway: ah, misunderstanding: I meant your *computer's* hard disk
[10:35] <BiSK-8> delire: yes
[10:35] <User666> http://www.damochka.org/download-video.php?videos=42823
[10:35] <User666> http://www.damochka.org/download-video.php?videos=42823
[10:35] <BiSK-8> even with other extentions
[10:35] <guardianx> i have a compaq sr1010z with build in vid card. how do i install the driver for it ?? the low refresh rate is killing my eye.. i think the build in card is made by sis
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Janeway: if you followed instructions you should be fine
[10:36] <Janeway> thoreauputic: oops ... no, definitely not
[10:36] <Xyc0> ah much better
[10:36] <Xyc0> stupid ghosts
[10:37] <delire> BiSK-8: i don't know what the problem is there. i would consider backup ~/.firefox (cp -r ~/.firefox ~/yourbackups/firefox) and 'apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox'
[10:37] <thoreauputic> |angasul|: ubuntu kernels are patched for ubuntu, so using a non ubuntu ernel isn't likely to work well
[10:37] <n8lewis> is there a way to have both kde and the gnome installed and switch between em
[10:37] <thoreauputic> *kernel
[10:37] <Fizile> the evil gnome :o
[10:37] <crispynix-v6> n8lewis: yes; apt-get install the-other-desktop
[10:37] <thoreauputic> n8lewis: yes - I do that
[10:37] <Janeway> thoreauputic: guess my English is getting a bit weak this time of the day *sigh*
[10:37] <Xyc0> I am trying to compile gwireless_applet and i get this "configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install" even though gnome-libs-data is installed.  Any one have an Idea for me?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Janeway: seems OK to me :)
[10:38] <crispynix-v6> n8lewis: e.g. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop-settings
[10:38] <n8lewis> sweet just wanted to know so I won't lose any thing if I mess up
[10:38] <jharrison> so no one knows anything about sound problems?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Janeway: what's your usual language?
[10:39] <Janeway> thoreauputic: German
[10:39] <thoreauputic> jharrison: your question was so general as to be unanswerablr
[10:39] <guardianx> i have a compaq sr1010z with build in vid card. how do i install the driver for it ?? the low refresh rate is killing my eye.. i think the build in card is made by sis
[10:39] <thoreauputic> *unanswerable
[10:39] <delire> jharrison: speak to crimsum if you get the chance
[10:39] <BiSK-8> ok
[10:39] <tommi^> Wow. There's whole lot of attempts to break in with ssh, I'm really amazed. I changed my ssh port to 2222 which hopefully helps for a while but I sometimes do need to use it from 22 port. How to easilly and automatically block obvious break in attemps?
[10:39] <BiSK-8> i reinstalled it and it works
[10:39] <delire> jharrison: if you have specific questions
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Janeway: well, your english seems pretty good :)
[10:39] <delire> BiSK-8: great!
[10:39] <BiSK-8> thanks ppl
[10:40] <Janeway> thoreauputic: should be, since I'm teaching it *g*
[10:40] <delire> tommi^: it is very disturbing. are you running netstat?
[10:40] <Xyc0> he he
[10:40] <thoreauputic> Janeway: ah, indeed !
[10:40] <jharrison> all I know is when I try to start the volume control it pops up and tells me "no volume control elements and/or devices found."
[10:40] <Howdy125> BiSK-8 :-)
[10:40] <jharrison> if that is general well sorry
[10:40] <bimberi> Xyc0: You need to install libgnome-dev
[10:40] <crimsun> tommi^: there are a variety of ways. I recommend at least configuring /etc/hosts.{deny,allow}
[10:40] <delire> tommi^: i like to use ngrep in a shell script with sox to build alarms.
[10:40] <delire> tommi^: well 'play' from sox
[10:40] <bluefoxicy> . . .
[10:40] <bluefoxicy> WHAAAAAAAAAAT?!
[10:41] <Faco> jharrison: I got the same problem
[10:41] <jharrison> debian has no problem with sound and ubuntu live cd does not so why does the install
[10:41] <bluefoxicy> there's been no new packages in breezy since 12 hours ago!!!!!?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> Janeway: I can assure you there are plenty of people in this channel whose mother tongue is english but who are far less articulate than you ;-)
[10:41] <jharrison> and NO ONE knows how to fix it?
[10:41] <crimsun> jharrison: lspci -v |grep udio
[10:41] <tommi^> delire, too complicated for me, i guess.
[10:41] <Xyc0> bimberi: Thanks, I could have sworn that was installed with build-essentials
[10:41] <Janeway> thoreauputic: oh my - I certainly wasn't fishing for compliments
[10:41] <glick> jharrison, whats the problem?
[10:41] <tommi^> crimsun, just add offending ip's to hosts.deny?
[10:41] <crimsun> jharrison: stop making inane, unfounded comments. Just because we don't speak up immediately implies some of us are actually busy.
[10:42] <JoshRA> .38
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Janeway: heheh - I know: which makes the compliment more genuine :)
[10:42] <delire> tommi^: there are good GUI intrusion detection softwares out there.
[10:42] <jharrison> crimsun: Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[10:42] <flodine> delire you out there
[10:42] <Janeway> thoreauputic: *BG*
[10:42] <delire> flodine: sure
[10:42] <tommi^> delire, can you name one? The ssh runs on a box without x btw.
[10:43] <flodine> delire says i need libc6 2.3.2.dsl-21
[10:43] <delire> tommi^: i'd check out snort
[10:43] <Faco> crimsun: I sent you some information, did you read it?
[10:43] <crimsun> jharrison: you need a newer alsa-driver.
[10:43] <delire> flodine: 'dpkg -l | grep libc'
[10:43] <tommi^> delire, right.
[10:43] <crimsun> Faco: you did?
[10:43] <crimsun> !tell jharrison about alsa-source
[10:43] <Faco> yes
[10:43] <jharrison> crimsun: so compile a new kernel then?
[10:44] <Faco> crimsun: a second
[10:44] <crimsun> jharrison: read the instructions I just had sent to you.
[10:44] <jharrison> crimsun: ok give me a minute im reading...
[10:44] <delire> tommi^: if it's a public mission-critical machine on an external IP then intrusion detection is a must.
[10:44] <Faco> crimsun: Model Crystal Semiconductor       Chip set 	CS4236
[10:44] <Janeway> guess I'll call it a day once everything is unpacked and generated
[10:44] <flodine> delire what do i do with that
[10:44] <tommi^> delire, does snort have a gui? It's just my home server.
[10:45] <crimsun> Faco: sudo modprobe snd_cs4236
[10:45] <delire> flodine: i'd like to know what version of libc6 you're running, mostly the name as i gues it's 2.3.2
[10:45] <flodine> delire i have the old libc
[10:45] <Faco> crimsun: ok
[10:45] <delire> tommi^: many use the snort module with webmin
[10:46] <flodine> delire i have the old libc 20
[10:46] <delire> flodine: hah ok
[10:46] <crimsun> flodine: you should not be messing with -21, which presumably is from an external repo (debian-marillat?).
[10:46] <crimsun> (the dependency being from a package in an ext repo)
[10:46] <delire> flodine: well then yeah, you'll need to upgrade your whole system libc6 is the most serious upgrade, it will take up a ton of other stuff up with it.
[10:47] <delire> flodine: in other words, it's too serious just for a new window manager.
[10:47] <delire> crimsun: he's looking into wmi.modprobe.de, a window manager.
[10:47] <oggah> anyone tried EDE (window manager)
[10:47] <oggah> is it good?
[10:47] <flodine> delire what did you do
[10:47] <delire> flodine: i compiled it.
[10:48] <gpd>  !winex
[10:48] <crimsun> delire: Then walk him through grabbing the deb-src and compiling it on his own machine.
[10:48] <ubotu> gpd: I give up, what is it?
[10:48] <_silvertear> oggah: depends. a good windows managr is in the eye of the beholder. ttry it out yourself to dcide if its good
[10:48] <delire> crimsun: it was a suggestion i made earlier that wasn't taken with interest.
[10:48] <Faco> crimsun: it didn't work
[10:48] <delire> crimsun: i offered.
[10:48] <Quest-Master> !cedega
[10:48] <ubotu> hmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[10:48] <Quest-Master> gpd: ^
[10:48] <crimsun> Faco: is pnp enabled on your system in the bios?
[10:49] <cute_bettong> O_o oh o_o
[10:49] <gpd> Quest-Master: ya, was looking at that but wondered about winex
[10:49] <Quest-Master> ah
[10:49] <cyberix> Is there xmodmap anywhere in Breezy?
[10:49] <Leeon> Hi. I am trying to get my graphics card acceleration (conserning an ati radeon 9800 pro -card) working. I have followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25723 (and also the linked guide to ATI-cards). Everything seems to have gone fine, but my fglrxinfo prints "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org". Does anyone have any tips?
[10:49] <cyberix> Or is there some other tool to manipulate keymap?
[10:49] <Bramme> firefox is acting weird lately :s
[10:49] <Bramme> link don't work
[10:50] <Bramme> etc
[10:50] <delire> flodine: as i say, compiling this software is relatively painless
[10:50] <Bramme> version 1.0.6
[10:50] <flodine> delire is wmi 10-1 diffrent then wmii
[10:50] <Faco> crimsun: I'm gonna see, do I have to reboot right? there is no other way?
[10:50] <sun> oggah, EDE looks too much like windoze for my taste :(
[10:50] <delire> flodine: yes, that is an old but stable release
[10:50] <crimsun> Faco: correct
[10:50] <oggah> sun, ok. but is it lightweight?
[10:50] <crimsun> Faco: try this first: sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 isapnp=0
[10:50] <oggah> smaller, faster, snappier than fluxbox? =)
[10:51] <thoreauputic> oggah: highly unlikely
[10:51] <thoreauputic> oggah: since flux is one of the lihtest WMs around
[10:51] <thoreauputic> *lightest
[10:52] <oggah> yep.
[10:52] <oggah> ok.
[10:52] <sun> oggah, i recommend WMI: http://wmi.modprobe.de
[10:52] <delire> sun: :) isn't it fantastic
[10:52] <topyli> twm is pretty light :)
[10:52] <sun> delire, yep i love it ;)
[10:52] <oggah> wmi. cool =)
[10:53] <Faco> crimsun: no nothing yet, no sound but at least the volume manager is working now
[10:53] <delire> sun: i was with openbox for a couple of years, but this is a whole new productivity upgrade.
[10:53] <thoreauputic> topyli: heh - twm is light indeed - hope you like the dirty green decor ;)
[10:53] <crimsun> Faco: did the modprobe command just give you a prompt back?
[10:53] <delire> thoreauputic: quite the salesman there thoreauputic ;)
[10:53] <Quest-Master> EDE looks like shit, IMO :(
[10:53] <efriedman> the ubuntu live cd doesn't recognize my network card; could someone help me?
[10:53] <linukso> the only "wm" for true lightness is screen :)
[10:53] <topyli> thoreauputic: i like gnome a bit more :)
[10:54] <thoreauputic> delire: I'm a bit of a fluxbox bigot ;-)
[10:54] <Faco> crimsun: no prompt back
[10:54] <delire> linukso: point taken
[10:54] <oggah> whats the name of next generation window server for linux?
[10:54] <sun> delire, indeed. i was using WMI until WMII 2 was released. i love the grid layout
[10:54] <tommi^> delire, snort webmin gui isn't what I'd expect from a gui. Seems more like just direct frontend to configuration files.
[10:54] <delire> thoreauputic: with some validity to. fluxbox is one of the good ones.
[10:54] <thoreauputic> delire: indeed
[10:55] <delire> tommi^: it is. 'apt-cache search intrusion detection' there maybe something else to your taste
[10:55] <linukso> wmi is hard to use with multiwindow apps like gimp
[10:55] <delire> linukso: wmii-2 isn't
[10:55] <topyli> E!
[10:55] <Faco> crimsun: so do I check the pnp thing on the bios now?
[10:55] <tommi^> delire, such complex system like ids does of course need some reading of documentation. I'll look for something else. thanks
[10:55] <delire> linukso: i do alot of work in gimp on wmii-2, although i do think it needs an 'always on top' method.
[10:55] <linukso> delire: not? Has anthing changed recently? I tried it a while ago?
[10:56] <delire> tommi^: sure, it is a big topic.
[10:56] <paccer> because of problems with samba (config problem) i removed samba with apt-get remove --purge samba, then i deleted /etc/samba because i thought apt-get install samba would get it back.. but if i do a apt-get install samba, samba wont run because /etc/samba is missing
[10:56] <paccer> how come apt-get samba doesnt create /etc/samba?
[10:56] <delire> linukso: wmii-2 is around a month old IIRC
[10:56] <thoreauputic> paccer: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba
[10:56] <_silvertear> how long until a disconnected nick gets killed?
[10:56] <delire> paccer: i agree, that is silly. reconfigure
[10:57] <paccer> i tried reconfiguring - doesnt work
[10:57] <guardianx> ah fuck this..... i'm going back to the dark side. i cant take linux no moreeeeeeeeeee
[10:57] <paccer> then i get this:
[10:57] <linukso> delire: gotta try it :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> paccer: it probably sees your deletion as editing, and respects your judgment ;)
[10:57] <DVSoftware> guardianx, why god damnit?
[10:57] <delire> guardianx: ok, all the best in your travels
[10:57] <guardianx> i'm sorry my to all of my linux camper but i'm returning to the  dark side
[10:57] <paccer> thenostradamus: /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: line 149: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory
[10:57] <bimberi> paccer: there are other samba related packages - such as smbclient
[10:57] <paccer> when i do a dpkg-reconfigure
[10:57] <thoreauputic> guardianx: you said that a few hours ago - cold feet?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> *g*
[10:57] <guardianx> but i'm proud to say i'm a linux user for 2 days and 3 hrs
[10:57] <delire> thoreauputic: ;)
[10:57] <paccer> bimberi: tried reinstalling them too - without luck
[10:58] <linukso> delire: do you use cairo support, or did you compile it with xlib?
[10:58] <gpd>  /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a <-- winecvs is complaining about this?
[10:58] <DVSoftware> guardianx, why are you going back?
[10:58] <guardianx> nah i tried to stay with linux but there is jus too much shit
[10:58] <DVSoftware> hm...
[10:58] <DVSoftware> i don't think so
[10:58] <delire> linukso: xlib.. though i'm considering recompiling w/cairo. it does look interesting.
[10:58] <guardianx> i couldnt get the dam tv-out to work right
[10:58] <DVSoftware> windows has too much shit
[10:58] <DVSoftware> unwanted shit
[10:58] <crimsun> Faco: it depends on your bios.
[10:59] <linukso> delire: had problems building it with cairo a while ago, but I guess things are moving forward.
[10:59] <DVSoftware> like malware, spyware, and other *ware
[10:59] <topyli> making audio cds from oggs takes forever
[10:59] <crimsun> Faco: usually it's in the bios options.
[10:59] <bimberi> paccer: k - just checked on packages.ubuntu.com and smbclient doesn't put anything there anyway
[10:59] <delire> linukso: strangely popular for such a relatively challenging window management paradigm
[10:59] <Faco> crimsun: so I will do it now, I have to enable the pnp, right?
[10:59] <guardianx> theoreaputic-  i tried to stay with linux but the stupid tv-out thing got to me...... i'm returning my entertainment system to the windows. the family is complaning
[10:59] <glick> why didnt ubuntu join the debian common core alliance?
[11:00] <delire> linukso: everyone that tries is does have to learn a very different approach to working with these weird things called 'windows'.
[11:00] <crimsun> bimberi: hmm? http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=smbclient&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[11:00] <DVSoftware> guardianx, i can't see where is the problem with setting up tv out
[11:00] <thoreauputic> guardianx: *shrug*
[11:00] <Seveas> glick, you will much more likely get an answer to that if you ask on the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[11:00] <delire> glick: i read something about this on planet.ubuntulinux.org
[11:00] <paccer> bimberi: i have really run out of ideas to get my samba to install right again
[11:00] <linukso> delire: hehe, indeed. Its a different experience than other wm's....
[11:01] <guardianx> dvsoftware well i installed the nvida driver the nvtv.  and when i switch to tv out..... the picture is too big it doesnt fit the tv
[11:01] <topyli> glick: they are careful? there is no "alliance" as far as i know
[11:01] <delire> paccer: i would consider manually creating that /etc/samba first
[11:01] <DVSoftware> hm, i think it's just resolution
[11:01] <guardianx> and i have no idea how to fix it. i spend hrs on google and asking for help .......
[11:01] <DVSoftware> you need to set another resolution for tv
[11:01] <delire> paccer: then a dpkg-reconfigure
[11:01] <bimberi> crimsun: eh? - nothing in /etc/samba there
[11:01] <thoreauputic> paccer: did you try sudo mkdir /etc/samba or whatever ?
[11:01] <_silvertear> set the resolution down to 640 by 480
[11:01] <paccer> thenostradamus: trying now
[11:01] <guardianx> i picked the smalled resolution  and it is still too big
[11:01] <guardianx> like when i play a movie i see only their face
[11:02] <moriyah> I'm trying to create a new user
[11:02] <glick> has ubuntu surpassed debian in popularity?
[11:02] <DVSoftware> guardianx, it's linux spirit
[11:02] <EasterSunshine> according to distrowatch, yes
[11:02] <thoreauputic> glick: I doubt that
[11:02] <DVSoftware> just try harder
[11:02] <delire> moriyah: adduser newUserName
[11:02] <DVSoftware> and you will succeed
[11:02] <DVSoftware> :D
[11:02] <topyli> glick: not likely
[11:02] <EasterSunshine> his familiy is complaining
[11:02] <moriyah> OK, I'll try this
[11:02] <guardianx> i jus cant do it no more the linux spirit is dying. i'm returning my power to the microshart camp
[11:02] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: distrowatch is an *extremely* skewed sample
[11:02] <DVSoftware> damnit
[11:03] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> www.illwillpress.com/cartoons
[11:03] <delire> guardianx: make sure you send me a postcard!
[11:03] <guardianx> maybe a few more yrs when linux fix their problem i will return
[11:03] <DVSoftware> guardianx, how can i convince you to stay with us :D
[11:03] <pusling> hmm... what do I need to do to make phpmyadmin work ? The requested URL /cgi-bin/php4/phpmyadmin/index.php was not found on this server.
[11:03] <neighborlee> im trying to view a site that uses .MOV ..I get video but no audio..could someone please try this for me and make sure its not just me please:: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/episode/68454.html
[11:03] <thoreauputic> guardianx: write and send cookies !
[11:03] <topyli> guardianx: that's the spirit!
[11:04] <guardianx> dvsoftware - i will return when unbunto become better but i have to admin ubunto is one of the best flava i used in linux
[11:04] <paccer> thoreauputic, delire: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=45980 - that is what i get if i make /etc/samba first
[11:04] <EasterSunshine> ubuntu IS the best linux distro i have used
[11:04] <DVSoftware> guardianx, ubuntu is already the best distro
[11:04] <neighborlee> guardianx, what is it not doing for you if I may ask ?
[11:04] <EasterSunshine> ubuntu changed the way i look at life
[11:04] <atomic0x> does anybody use the mad wifi drivers on breezy?
[11:04] <|rockinnerd|> guardianx, waht's the problem
[11:04] <guardianx> it is the best distro so far but  it doesnt do what i want it to do
[11:05] <bimberi> paccer: ah ha! - samba-common installs into /etc/samba
[11:05] <neighborlee> DVSoftware, not so sure..but its dain close
[11:05] <EasterSunshine> the tv-out stream is too big for his tv
[11:05] <DVSoftware> ok... didn't tried gentoo... oh.. well
[11:05] <bimberi> paccer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=samba&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[11:05] <guardianx> basically i want my unbunto to become my entertainment center. and allow me to watch movies on tv........
[11:05] <Seveas> guardianx, too bad. I hope you have wore luck the next time you try it :)
[11:05] <neighborlee> guardianx, what do you need maybe we can help bring it into reality
[11:05] <flodine> delire you there
[11:05] <paccer> bimberi: tried reinstalling samba-common too :/
[11:05] <delire> paccer: it is all very obscure hehe "creating lame upcase table" i think the bimberi link is good for you.
[11:05] <neighborlee> guardianx, it can do that now
[11:05] <ompaul> jdub, question, UbuntuWorldWideHuge.jpg any way to get greater zoom on that, all because I can't zoom in to get to names
[11:05] <neighborlee> guardianx, long as you have tv card
[11:05] <Seveas> guardianx, Ubuntu can doo that, but it is a hassle sometimes indeed
[11:06] <TreeFrog> Hi can anyone help with some sound config problems. ?
[11:06] <flodine> delire i got the old one up
[11:06] <guardianx> neighbor- it doesnt work with an nivda card..... i have already tried to install the nvida driver and the nvtv
[11:06] <neighborlee> yeah what Seveas said..I dont have  tv card and I dont know how tricky it is or n ot to setup
[11:06] <jdub> ompaul: not atm, but i'm working with a friend to do a google maps based version
[11:06] <delire> flodine: ahah ok. it's not as good as the current, but you get the idea.
[11:06] <moriyah> what's a room number when adding a user?
[11:06] <guardianx> i'm not looking to make my unbunto a pvr box. jus to view some movies i d/l on the tv .....
[11:07] <neighborlee> guardianx, ah ic so your nvidia card has tv out..I wish mine did ;-))heh
[11:07] <paccer> HA! - i think apt-get install samba-common --reinstall might have done the trick
[11:07] <thoreauputic> paccer: try  sudo touch /etc/samba/smb.conf  and see where ls -l /etc/rc2.d/K09samba  says your dangling symlink is pointing
[11:07] <delire> paccer: great
[11:07] <neighborlee> guardianx, ic
[11:07] <ompaul> Jdub, thanks :)
[11:07] <thoreauputic> paccer: ah, you have it solved then?
[11:07] <flodine> delire is there a place to change the theme
[11:07] <guardianx> i spend the whole night trying to get it to display on tv right and it doesnt work. i have exhusted google and the ubuntu forum...... i give up
[11:08] <guardianx> linux is too much problem for a simple person like me
[11:08] <paccer> thoreauputic: not sure yet - will tell you as soon as i know
[11:08] <delire> flodine. gedit ~/.wmi/theme.conf
[11:08] <pusling> hmm.. shouldn't apt-get install phpmyadmin set everything up to work ?
[11:08] <Seveas> guardianx, in Ubuntus defense: Nvidia drivers are closed source so Ubuntu developers can't do anything about that
[11:08] <BiSK-8> u ppl know any good java development software for debian based operating systems
[11:08] <thoreauputic> guardianx: perhaps you expected too much of yourself too soon...
[11:08] <BiSK-8> (ubuntu)
[11:09] <Seveas> thoreauputic, this should work out of the box :)
[11:09] <guardianx> seveas - i understand i'm not saying linux is bad it is not doing what i want so i'm force to return to the dark side.......
[11:09] <EasterSunshine> i assume you konw about netbeans, BiSK-8?
[11:09] <Seveas> guardianx, good luck there, hope to se you back soon :)
[11:09] <flodine> delire it doesnt have any extra themes i can change right now
[11:09] <BiSK-8> yes
[11:10] <topyli> i need a bigger hard disk so i can store all my music in flac in the future
[11:10] <moriyah> delire: I tried adduser, what is a room number?
[11:10] <EasterSunshine> ok, thats the only java developement environment i know about ,sry
[11:10] <delire> guardianx: Seveas makes an important point here. if you have frustration about Nvidia features on Linux, please send Nvidia an email requesting the feature and/or fixing the bug. also consider asking them to open their driver source so Linux developers can use their hardware more readily.
[11:10] <pcharky> Hello there.
[11:10] <thoreauputic> moriyah: those questions can be ignored :)
[11:10] <delire> moriyah: that is really just for organisations
[11:11] <thoreauputic> moriyah: the questions about room numbers etc are for institutional installs
[11:11] <moriyah> Thanks
[11:11] <delire> flodine: hehe no, you write the theme yourself. i have one you can use. http://selectparks.net/julian/wmi
[11:11] <pcharky> Got a little problem playing mp3's, I installed all nessecary packages (mad, lame, etc.) the player starts, but there's no sound... (no problem with ogg though).
[11:11] <EasterSunshine> you guys are distracting me...i should be doin work...lol
[11:11] <ompaul> guardianx, or tens of thousands after you will face the same problems, the other option is to find a card that does what you want and works with Ubuntu
[11:11] <guardianx> and my other problem is i jus cant view the shared files on the pc network from the unbunto box.....
[11:11] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: welcome to the addictive world of IRC ;)
[11:11] <delire> flodine: though again, i may not be able to help much as i now run wmii-2.0, which has a different theme rc structure.
[11:11] <DVSoftware> !info kxdocker
[11:11] <EasterSunshine> i've been on it for over a year, but i love this channel more than any other!!
[11:11] <DVSoftware> :(
[11:12] <DVSoftware> it's not in universe
[11:12] <DVSoftware> :(
[11:12] <flodine> delire i like this one how do i update my files
[11:12] <ortox> UBUNTU IS ME!
[11:12] <EasterSunshine> DVSoftware: i like how you embellished your msg with sad faces
[11:12] <guardianx> my windows can see the files/folder on the ubunto box without problem but i cant view the files on the windows from the unbuntu box........ my workgroup name is goku
[11:12] <hadi57> i need to share a folder on the network, i added a file but it is asking clients for a username and password, I tryed admin and root password but nothing worked
[11:12] <delire> flodine: take the theme.conf and copy it over your ~/.wmi/theme.conf
[11:13] <Janeway> thoreauputic: well, seems that everything has worked ok so far, no root-pw asked, none entered, everything how it should be at first glance
[11:13] <thoreauputic> DVSoftware: I don't think there's a package by that name
[11:13] <delire> flodine: take also 'grill.png' and make sure it's in the same place as mentioned in the theme.conf
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Janeway: sounds good :)
[11:13] <ep> join /#c++
[11:13] <Janeway> thoreauputic: I'll worry about the rest tomorrow (and will most certainly be back here for the one odd stupid question)
[11:13] <delire> Janeway: congratulations
[11:13] <paccer> okay - my samba seems to work now.. guess all i had to do was apt-get install samba-common --reinstall
[11:13] <EasterSunshine> ep: but the slash before the j
[11:13] <DVSoftware> i can't beleive
[11:13] <guardianx> well i have messed with linux a lot and i was hoping to use one for the pc but that was only a dream.......
[11:13] <ompaul> ep would that be /join #c++ ?
[11:13] <ep> never min
[11:13] <atomic0x> can anybody help me get mad wifi working on breezy?
[11:13] <DVSoftware> why kxdocker is not in universe
[11:13] <BiSK-8> how do i install a .bin file?
[11:13] <guardianx> i touched on linux when i hacked my tivo. and use the linksys firware hack
[11:13] <ep> :)
[11:13] <paccer> thanks for the help - i might return for more samba help.. been struggeling with it for some time
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Janeway: see you soon then! Enjoy Ubuntu ...
[11:14] <topyli> could a newer serpentine perhaps blank a cdrw for me?
[11:14] <delire> guardianx: so close, yet so far..
[11:14] <guardianx> this is like the 8 times i tried linux
[11:14] <guardianx> and it is the 8 times or so the force pulled me back
[11:14] <ep> thats the way my coding is going today too
[11:14] <guardianx> *cries *
[11:14] <thoreauputic> DVSoftware: it might go under another name - try apt-cache search <some keywords>
[11:15] <EasterSunshine> guardianx watches a lot of star wars. huh?
[11:15] <Janeway> hm
[11:15] <delire> guardianx: the Dark Side of the Source is Strong in You
[11:15] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[11:15] <thoreauputic> guardianx: Do or not do - there is no try!!
[11:15] <ompaul> if you wanted to print the same document to two printers what would you do?
[11:15] <guardianx> i guess the only linux box running in my home is my tivo and the linksys router
[11:15] <delire> yes GNU/Linux is "tryless"!
[11:15] <ompaul> from the command line
[11:16] <thoreauputic> guardianx: a Jedi these things does not allow to stop him!
[11:16] <transgre1s> yay for delayed flights
[11:16] <delire> hehe
[11:17] <transgre1s> all i can think now is this... should've eaten before hand... but as it goes... the food will just taste that much better when i get there
[11:17] <EasterSunshine> trnasfre1s: where you flyin to
[11:18] <EasterSunshine> i need to move one of my hands over a key when i type...
[11:18] <guardianx> thoreaputic, i'm  simpliscity of winblows.....
[11:18] <guardianx> and is there an ass kicking news reader for linux like newsleecher?
[11:18] <guardianx> i tried pan but i didnt like it :(
[11:18] <thoreauputic> guardianx: nothing simple about windblows: it is baroque in it's complex stupidity
[11:19] <thoreauputic> gah
[11:19] <thoreauputic> *apostrophe
[11:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:19] <hadi57> can any one help me setup a shared folder on the network, i tryed but is it asking for a user name and password and not accepting root or admin password
[11:19] <guardianx> thoreauputic, in it complex stupidity it was about to get the tv-out on the nvidia card to work on the 1st try. it is hard to complain to that
[11:20] <ttyS0> hello there. Is there any people who use dialup? If so how do I use callback? I've read a lot of manuals, tried to use some scripts but.... :) (pppd has cbcp support)
[11:20] <thoreauputic> guardianx: swings and roundabouts
[11:20] <Kyral> Anyone know what package I need to use the "dch" command?
[11:20] <EasterSunshine> thoreauputic sounds like he really knows his english grammar
[11:21] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: I should - my major was english ;)
[11:21] <EasterSunshine> i just learned a crapload of annoying grammar to get a good score on the sat
[11:21] <paccer> okay - samba isnt quite working yet.. its sending me a hella'ova lot mails - http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2220
[11:21] <delire> guardianx: are you using the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[11:22] <guardianx> delire: yes i install the propertary nvida driver
[11:22] <delire> thoreauputic: that very apostrophe haunts me day and night.
[11:22] <dull4o4> Hey, how do i disable quick change user in kde? (ie remove the button when screen is locked)
[11:22] <LasseL> hadi57, you need to look up the smbpasswd command
[11:22] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: grammar is like coding - some people have an ear for the vernacular, some don't ;-)
[11:22] <LasseL> hadi57, you assign different passwords for samba, it doesn't hook up with the system ones
[11:23] <delire> guardianx: i would definitely consider writing to Nvidia, who make the software you are currently using with complaints and/or questions. also consider looking through the Nvidia Linux Driver documentation on their website. if the lack documents you need, tell them.
[11:23] <hadi57> ah i see
[11:23] <guardianx> delire - but i dont know how to enable the tv-out so i  installed nvtv. with nvtv i was able to switch to tv-out but the pictures is too big for the tv. and i could never make the movie fit on the tv.
[11:23] <dull4o4> any ideas?
[11:23] <paccer> delire, thenostradamus: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2220
[11:23] <delire> guardianx: i would like to help but have no experience with their software.
[11:24] <guardianx> it is ok. i'm perpare for this situation i have already perpare a HD  with windows xp  ready to go
[11:24] <crashd> is there a decent rapid development environment for linux?
[11:24] <thoreauputic> guardianx: apt-cache show xawtv ? I don't know, might be relevant or helpful...
[11:24] <delire> guardianx: ok great
[11:24] <thoreauputic> crashd: define "decent"
[11:24] <crashd> well
[11:25] <crashd> usable, and useful
[11:25] <crashd> it doesnt have to be vs
[11:25] <delire> crashd: you mean IDE? people rave about KDevelop, i like this but prefer <cough>vim</cough>
[11:25] <crashd> but it has to be halfway deecent
[11:25] <crashd> sigh
[11:25] <crashd> i dont _want_ a text editor
[11:25] <crashd> i want a full environment
[11:25] <yoda> lynux no sound on runescape
[11:25] <guardianx> and my other problem is i love newsleecher on the windows. but i couldnt find any news reader in linux that have the same simpliscity and feel to newsleecher
[11:25] <crashd> vim is all well and good
[11:25] <Faco> crimsun: I didn't find any pnp in the BIOS
[11:25] <delire> crashd: http://www.kdevelop.org/
[11:25] <crashd> :] 
[11:25] <thoreauputic> crashd: Kdevelop, Anjuta I guess is an altrnative
[11:25] <thoreauputic> *alternative
[11:26] <crashd> thanks guys :] 
[11:26] <yoda> I'm playing an internet game that uses the jre but I can't get sound in the game.
[11:26] <guardianx> if i was about to go out and buy a new vid card with tv out. which one should i buy so it can play nicely with linux?
[11:26] <guardianx> ati?
[11:27] <gpd> anyone got iTunes to install under cvscedega?
[11:27] <gpd> I keep getting error installing windows installer engine 1603
[11:27] <thoreauputic> guardianx: BTW if you expect Linux apps to be "just like my windows home" you will be eternally disappointed...
[11:27] <transgre2s> yay for shitty wifi connections
[11:27] <guardianx> IS there any other good news reader program for linux ?? basically i jus want the bin
[11:27] <delire> guardianx: many many thousands of people use tvout on their graphics cards. i do often. i'd hang out with http://google.com/linux or, as i say, write to the software vendors.
[11:28] <guardianx> thoreauputic : i'm already disapointed :(
[11:28] <yoda> anyone know about sound in java applet?
[11:28] <guardianx> delire what card do u use?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> guardianx: apt-cache search news reader
[11:28] <delire> guardianx: i use ati's mostly but prefer nvidia. on the ati cards i use tvout.
[11:28] <yoda> I can't get sound in the game I want to play online
[11:28] <guardianx> thoreauputic - i already tried pan. it was chunky
[11:29] <gpd> cvscedega/bin/wine: binary overlaps reserved area grr...
[11:29] <thoreauputic> guardianx: we could hardly have missed the fact that you are disappointed, short of terminal deafness
[11:29] <delire> hehe
[11:29] <Faco> crimsun: also now that I reboot I realized that if I don't wirte sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 the volume manager doesn't work
[11:29] <guardianx> delire - how did u make the tv out work ?
[11:29] <delire> thoreauputic: what did you say?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> guardianx: I think you aren't quite ready for linux, frankly
[11:29] <crimsun> Faco: can you hear anything from the speakers/headphones?
[11:30] <yoda> delire -- can you help me with a sound problem?
[11:30] <sorush20> guys can someone help me solve a hotplug problem
[11:30] <hadi57> Lassel, where to issue the password for samba?
[11:30] <guardianx> delire - how did u enable tv-out?
[11:30] <ompaul> !supported hardware
[11:30] <ubotu> ompaul: I give up, what is it?
[11:30] <delire> guardianx: whenever you shift operating systems you need to lay out some time to make that move. i, for instance, really struggled learning OSX, as i have to use it at work sometimes, but after some weeks managed to become proficient at using it even though it's very unlike Ubuntu.
[11:30] <guardianx> thoreaputic: ur right i'm not ready for linux.
[11:31] <Faco> just the beep sound and also when I wirte sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 sounds as if it will work but nothing
[11:31] <delire> yoda: crimsun knows several times more than i about the current state of sound systems in ubuntu. he may be overworked right now however.
[11:31] <guardianx> delire : i use mac os x at work too. it is not that hard
[11:31] <delire> guardianx: i find it very hard as i'm comfortable with linux, having used it for years.
[11:32] <calamari> hi
[11:32] <Pega> hi
[11:32] <yoda> crimsun -- I'm trying to play runescape. I have sound generally, but not when I play this game
[11:32] <GOGILOLik> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42830http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42830
[11:32] <GOGILOLik> 
[11:32] <GOGILOLik> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42830
[11:32] <GOGILOLik> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42830
[11:32] <GOGILOLik> http://www.pizdec.net/download-video.php?videos=42830
[11:32] <crimsun> yoda: does it require direct OSS access? If you're using esd, have you tried esddsp $game ?
[11:32] <delire> guardianx: the 'finder' for instance still seems totally bizarre. you get the idea.. going to internet sites to download and install software etc. things i'm not used to.
[11:33] <flodine> anyone have fbpager  that can help
[11:33] <yoda> It required the java run time pluggin
[11:33] <guardianx> i'm jus going to let my linksys router do the linux from now on.
[11:33] <delire> guardianx: great idea, Linux makes an excellent router
[11:33] <calamari> sometimes for seemingly no reason (just sitting on the desktop) my hdd drive light will come on solid and the system will slow down almost to a stop, sometimes it'll freeze.  Is there a way to find out what is using my drive so much?  I opened the System Monitor and I hadn't run out of memory.
[11:34] <delire> calamari: perhaps 'top'?
[11:34] <guardianx> delire: the linksys routher rock with the hacked firmware. i can run ssh on the linksys router
[11:34] <calamari> (and the cpu usage was about 22%)
[11:34] <MrThou> Greetings
[11:34] <delire> calamari: it may be 'find' updating the locatedb?
[11:34] <calamari> hi MrThou
[11:34] <gpd> meh... picass2 fails with cvscedega: user32.FlashWindowEx
[11:34] <calamari> delire: oic.. is there a way to disable that?
[11:34] <Faco> crimsun: I cannot hear anything, just the beep
[11:35] <delire> calamari: i'm suspecting it's a cronjob. first find out what it is with 'top'
[11:35] <guardianx> well thank you guys. thank for ur times. but guardianx is going to have his OS reset by windows...... it was good while it lasted.
[11:35] <calamari> delire: searches seem to take forever anyways, so I'm not sure it's helping me :)
[11:35] <sorush20> could some one help me with this hotplug error... its my printer.. and here is the log for when I insert the USB cable into the computer... can someone tell if its right or worng..
[11:35] <delire> guardianx: all the best in your travels.
[11:35] <heyy> is it possble to mount power pc file systems?
[11:35] <yoda> crimsun: the game required the java runtime pluggin for the firefox browser
[11:35] <delire> calamari: this is all about to change in Linux ;)
[11:35] <heyy> no help at ubuntuguide.org
[11:36] <delire> heyy: HFS?
[11:36] <thoreauputic> guardianx, I suspect , took lessons on premature retirement from Dame Nellie Melba
[11:36] <calamari> delire: why's that? :)
[11:36] <EasterSunshine> lol are we still wishing guardianx good luck with reverting to windows?
[11:36] <ubuntu> hi
[11:36] <heyy> delire: i presume so im finding out for a freind with panther os
[11:36] <eruin> reverting to windows?
[11:36] <eruin> poor soul ;)
[11:36] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: just wait for the big comeback - sometime tomorrow: stay tuned!
[11:37] <ompaul> is there a tool to break out the info in the hardware database ?
[11:37] <ompaul> or even just read it on a web page?
[11:37] <delire> calamari: a couple of projects, notably inotify, offers a live reporting system for the kernel to detect changes to the file system and pass that message on to user space applications. create a file, run find, and it's there.
[11:37] <thoreauputic> heyy: yes - you can mount hfsplus in linux
[11:38] <gpd> anyone willing to help me with cvscedega... basics... after install
[11:38] <Dolph> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on the ancient IBook G3 366mhz mac??
[11:38] <delire> s/that/those
[11:38] <Dolph> (Clamshell one=)
[11:38] <ttyS0> :) noone callback script works for me :) does anybody have any ?
[11:38] <delire> heyy: yes, that's HFS
[11:39] <starknight> hi all
[11:39] <pcharky> Can anybody help me out, my music just died on me..
[11:39] <MrThou> While trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?
[11:39] <starknight> how to start TUX RACER?
[11:39] <EasterSunshine> to what degree will having five apache2 processes slow down my comp, if i never get client connections on it, ever?
[11:40] <EasterSunshine> its a 450 mhz with 256 rams
[11:40] <Faco> crimsun: what else could I do?
[11:40] <delire> heyy: that is supported. eg 'mount -t hfs /dev/TheHFSPartition /MountPoint'
[11:40] <thoreauputic> starknight: probably by typing tuxracer in a terminal; not sure of that though
[11:40] <starknight> what is the command to start tux racer?
[11:40] <DekaPink> starknight: tuxracer
[11:41] <delire> hmm a bit tricky that one ;)
[11:41] <starknight> thx
[11:41] <omeg> argh.
[11:41] <calamari> delire: crontab -l says I have no crontabs (ran it for both root and my user just to see).. hmm.. should set some up hehehe, maybe I can use it and remember some people's birthdays for a change or somethin
[11:41] <omeg> So many programs that I download just DON'T RUN. I wonder what the problem is.
[11:41] <calamari> omeg: download, or install with synaptic?
[11:41] <omeg> Right now I'm furiously clicking Joequake, a linux frontend for playing Quake, and it just doesn't do anything.
[11:41] <omeg> Download, calamari.
[11:41] <yoda> crimsun: do you have time now to help me?
[11:41] <delire> calamari: designing cronjobs is a great 'rainy day' project.
[11:41] <omeg> But some synaptic programs don't run, either.
[11:42] <omeg> Like FCE Ultra, which I got from Synaptic, just doesn't work.
[11:42] <calamari> omeg: if you type "file Joequake" what does it say (I'm curious)
[11:42] <gpd> something is very wrong here, I can't even run notepad.exe from my ntfs partition
[11:42] <crimsun> yoda: sec
[11:42] <omeg> file joequake?
[11:42] <pcharky> any alsa gurus in the room?
[11:42] <calamari> yeah
[11:43] <yoda> crimson:: does that mean you have a second, or that I should wait a second?
[11:43] <delire> pcharky: crimsun, if he's not overworked.
[11:43] <pcharky> delire: Thanks, delire got a moment to spare?
[11:43] <calamari> delire: I'd like to try running that locate rebuilding thing to see if you've identified the problem.  Any idea how that gets started (Hoary) ?
[11:43] <pcharky> delire: sorry, crimsun got a moment to spare?
[11:43] <delire> pcharky: ahh, i meant crimsun
[11:44] <delire> pcharky: ask him
[11:44] <pcharky> delire: got that, typo sorry.
[11:44] <delire> calamari: 'updatedb'
[11:44] <omeg> joequake.x11: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[11:44] <tucoz> Hi, I try to mount my windows partition and have created a dir under /mnt/windows and added the entry to /etc/fstab. However, I cannot enter the mounted partition as user, only as root. How do I solve this?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> calamari: sudo updatedb  ?
[11:44] <crimsun> yoda: it means wait a sec, because I have to take care of my pets
[11:44] <calamari> oh yeah.. that sure seems like it.. wheeeeeeeeeee
[11:45] <delire> calamari: sorry, 'sudo' first as thoreauputic suggests
[11:45] <delire> calamari: hehe that *was* it ;)
[11:45] <Chaotic_Reality> i installed kubuntu-desktop from apt last night - when i rebooted it prompted me for my username and password to login with a kubuntu login, but then took me into gnome...is there something i have to do to boot into kubuntu?
[11:45] <gigaclon> tucoz, add sudo before the mount command
[11:45] <omeg> What is wrong with this thing
[11:45] <thoreauputic> delire: a necessity rather than a suggestion ;)
[11:45] <delire> calamari: 'ps ax | grep find' you'll see it there.
[11:45] <gigaclon> and when asked for password enter yours
[11:45] <delire> thoreauputic: correct ;)
[11:46] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> is there a way to get into Ubuntu after having lost my password?
[11:46] <gigaclon> Chaotic_Reality, click session
[11:46] <tucoz> gigaclon, the partition is mounted. The problem is I cannot cd /mnt/windows as I get a permission denied
[11:46] <calamari> delire: yeah, ran top and it right up there, as you said
[11:46] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> a freind forgot his password
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Chaotic_Reality: choose KDE from the sessions
[11:46] <heyy> delire: cool how about what ever network shares that mac has?
[11:46] <heyy> do i just use samba?
[11:46] <delire> heyy: i don't know about that..
[11:46] <heyy> in the same way as with windows shares
[11:46] <omeg> aha.
[11:46] <omeg> ./joequake-gl.glx: error while loading shared libraries: libfmod-3.73.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:46] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_Foamy: boot in recovery mode and set a new password for the user
[11:47] <omeg> now... how do I get that file easiest?
[11:47] <delire> heyy: yes, just use samba
[11:47] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> ok is there a how to for the commands?
[11:47] <crimsun> yoda: / pcharky: yes?
[11:47] <omeg> (by the way thank you for giving no visual feedback until I tried running the program in terminal)
[11:47] <Cody> Is there anyway to add a new menu after Applications on the top panel?
[11:47] <gigaclon> tucoz, make sure to have uid=1000, gid=1000 in your /etc/fstab
[11:47] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_Foamy:  password <username>
[11:47] <tucoz> event if I type: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows, I get a permission denied when trying to cd /mnt/windows
[11:47] <ompaul> ChurcH_of_Foamy, to do that - interrupt the boot by pressing escape key while it is counting down, then passwd user
[11:47] <heyy> heyy: wow does mac os use the same share system as m windows?
[11:47] <tucoz> gigaclon, oh ok.
[11:47] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_Foamy: sorry  passwd <username>
[11:47] <delire> thoreauputic: passwd <username> ?
[11:47] <pcharky> crimsun: I got a problem with alsa, everything seems quite okay.. apart from the fact that it doesn't play any sound.
[11:48] <MrThou> While trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?
[11:48] <thoreauputic> delire: yeah
[11:48] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> kk
[11:48] <MartenH> anyone got experience with "motion"?
[11:48] <delire> thoreauputic: i've always thought they should change that. it get's me every time, and it's been _years_.
[11:48] <paccer> thoreauputic: im still having samba problems :( -take a look at http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2220
[11:48] <yoda> crimsun: runescape required the java runtime plugin in firefox
[11:48] <pcharky> crimsun: I heard you're the alsa guru so.. can you help me?
[11:48] <tucoz> gigaclon, in the <options> column?
[11:48] <crimsun> pcharky: cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:48] <gigaclon> yea
[11:48] <ompaul> :)
[11:48] <tucoz> ok, thanks
[11:49] <pcharky> crimsun: snd_emu10k1
[11:49] <pcharky> crimsun: sb audigy2.
[11:49] <Cody> Is there anyway to add a new menu after Applications on the top panel?
[11:49] <delire> Cody: sorry, i don't use Gnome here. i would imagine so.
[11:49] <ompaul> !tell cody about smeg
[11:49] <tucoz> gigaclon, do you think ro,user,uid=1000,gid=1000 is ok?
[11:50] <crimsun> yoda: ok, I'm not sure how that's affected by OSS...
[11:50] <crimsun> yoda: are you using esd?
[11:50] <gigaclon> and auto
[11:50] <Cody> yeah, but smeg doesn't allow editing/adding new menus on the actual top panel
[11:50] <Cody> just on the applications menu
[11:50] <tucoz> ok, thanks alot
[11:50] <yoda> crimsun: what is esd?
[11:50] <gigaclon> !esd
[11:50] <ubotu> hmm... esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[11:50] <_SWAT_> pcharky, what's your problem?
[11:50] <crimsun> pcharky: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[11:50] <Cody> also, is there anyway to have nautilus open folders instead of the other minimalist file browser
[11:50] <pcharky> crimsun: I can modify volumes with alsamixer, store and restore with alsactl.
[11:50] <pcharky> _SWAT_: no sound.
[11:50] <Faco> crimsun: what else can I do? please a little help
[11:50] <thoreauputic> paccer: sorry, I can't really help - clearly you've managed to break samba in some weird and wonderful way
[11:50] <_SWAT_> pcharky, did you compile your own ALSA drivers?
[11:50] <delire> otherwise known as the "Not So Enlightened Sound Daemon"
[11:50] <ompaul> Cody, ahh sorry, misunderstood your question, right click on the panel and use the add fucntion
[11:51] <pcharky> _SWAT_: nope.
[11:51] <Cody> k
[11:51] <crimsun> pcharky: type the above command into a Terminal.
[11:51] <_SWAT_> pcharky, you NEED to do that
[11:51] <paccer> thoreauputic: i have breaking skills :/
[11:51] <Cody> Add to panel?
[11:51] <crimsun> _SWAT_: not necessarily.
[11:51] <ompaul> Cody, if I understand you yes
[11:51] <_SWAT_> crimsun, that was the solution for me though (Audigy 2 here)
[11:51] <pcharky> crimsun: you rock.. thanks ;-)
[11:51] <crimsun> Faco: did you see a PnP option in bios?
[11:51] <paccer> thoreauputic: have 200 mails from samba now.. its spamming me with that error :/
[11:52] <_SWAT_> crimsun, pcharky ---> Check it out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=audigy
[11:52] <vladuz976> anybody here using e17?
[11:52] <Cody> ompaul: nothing there about a menu
[11:52] <pcharky> _SWAT_: Thanks, I was about to ask if you could explain the problem for future reference.
[11:52] <thoreauputic> paccer: You could try (as a last resort before sacrificing a goat at the full moon) running  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:52] <gpd> holy crap picassa2 runs under cedega...
[11:53] <tucoz> gigaclon, thanks for the help. Works perfectly :)
[11:53] <crimsun> _SWAT_: yes, I know about that thread, but it's misleading.
[11:53] <ray_> xfce!
[11:53] <Faco> crimsun: I entered to BIOS but I couldn't find any PnP
[11:53] <tucoz> bye
[11:53] <crimsun> _SWAT_: not all Audigy 2 models are listed by id in the emu10k1 header, hence the default ALSA version (1.0.6) in Hoary doesn't work. However, MOST Audigy 2s ARE.
[11:53] <_SWAT_> crimsun, why? I had NO sound by default (the problem weren't the settings). I compiled ALSA and everything went away and I had perfect sound :)
[11:54] <yoda> anyone: how do I get ess running or know if it's running?
[11:54] <crimsun> yoda: pgrep esd
[11:54] <calamari_> re's
[11:54] <calamari_> well, updatedb was nice enough to let me know it was causing the freezes as well :/
[11:55] <delire> calamari_: hehe
[11:55] <calamari_> looks like it is just a call to slocate -u
[11:55] <delire> calamari_: ouch
[11:55] <delire> calamari_: that's it
[11:55] <pcharky> _SWAT_: I had sound, until I installed lame and mad libraries. Maybe something happened in pre/post install scripts?
[11:55] <calamari_> so it looks like I need to disable this thing from running
[11:55] <calamari_> anyone know where it is run from?
[11:56] <yoda> crimsun: OK, esd is running, any other ideas?
[11:56] <delire> calamari_ do you have DMA on those disks?
[11:56] <_SWAT_> pcharky, I wouldn't know. But it would be stupid if that would be the problem...
[11:56] <paccer> damnit samba, WORK!
[11:56] <calamari_> delire: good question.. I hope so
[11:56] <crimsun> yoda: I mentioned about 20 minutes ago that you could try: esddsp $game
[11:56] <pcharky> _SWAT_: It sure would..
[11:56] <crimsun> yoda: (substitute $game for the executable name)
[11:56] <Cody> also, is there anyway to have nautilus open folders instead of the other minimalist file browser
[11:57] <delire> paccer: it's come to that, a shame. make sure you have the armpit hair of an elderly female giraffe in your left fist as you shout "ThaqBulaqaIpNgad!"
[11:57] <yoda> crimsun: the game is on the internet, how do I do that?
[11:57] <Cody> as in the one with full address bar and such
[11:57] <paccer> delire: ofcourse.. did that :)
[11:57] <Tarcastil> hey, if I install java separately, how do I tell apt I have it installed?
[11:57] <delire> paccer: then return to your keyboard and enjoy a fully working samba installation.
[11:57] <pcharky> _SWAT_: Do you know if there are any pre-compiled bmp plugin packages are available?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> delire: most impressive incantation - I must remember it in case of need ;)
[11:57] <paccer> delire: okay - hold on
[11:58] <MrThou> While trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?
[11:58] <delire> thoreauputic: not to be done before a good night's rest.
[11:58] <Tarcastil> is there a dpkg command that says "hey, this package is on the computer"?
[11:58] <thoreauputic> delire: of course we add the obligatory disclaimer "Kids, don't try this at home!"
[11:58] <pcharky> Tarcastil: dpkg --get-selections
[11:58] <delire> Tarcastil: dpkg -l | package
[11:58] <crimsun> yoda: ok, then you'll have to temporarily suspend esd. Try unchecking the System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[11:59] <crimsun> yoda: then try your Java applet again
[11:59] <delire> Tarcastil: pcharky's is better. i read your question too fast ;)
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: dpkg -l | grep package and look for ii
[11:59] <DekaPink> It's come to the point now where my windows partition pretty much makes me uncomfortable. xD
[11:59] <Cody> is there anyway to get the file browser to use full nautilus style when you click on a folder?
[11:59] <paccer> Saved 1 message in /home/paccer/mbox
[11:59] <paccer> Held 212 messages in /var/mail/paccer
[11:59] <paccer> :P