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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult
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MezRiddell, ping12:32
RiddellMez: hi12:35
MezRiddell: I did a rebuild fo kynaptic against the new apt ABI12:36
Mezwanna sponsor it12:36
RiddellMez: sure12:38
MezRiddell, just uploading now :D12:39
Mezhttp://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/kynaptic/12:39
MezI'll let you know when it's uploaded12:40
Riddelltvo: interesting http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10606612:40
tvoRiddell: thanks, will adapt kio-locate docs too12:41
MezRiddell, uploaded12:42
Mezhttp://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/kynaptic/12:42
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MezRiddell: you get the link to the upload?12:55
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RiddellMez: yeah got it, any changes made or just a rebuild?01:06
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tvoyo, got kdelibs and kdebase compiled.. so now running 3.4.1 and 3.5..02:23
tvooff to test my patch..02:23
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MezRiddell: I've come accross a sort of, but in kde-systemsettings03:06
Riddellbug?03:08
Mezyeah03:09
Mezwhen i click anything, it resizes the window to smaller than it's contents03:09
Mezand then when i try to maximise, it just shows the main screen of KDESystemsettings outside of where the window bporders previously were03:10
Mezlemme upload a screeny03:11
Riddellweird, I don't see that at all03:11
MezRiddell03:11
Mezlocad up kdesystemsettings03:11
Mezthen maximise it03:11
Mezs/locad/load/03:11
Mezthen03:11
Mezcouble clikc an icon and see what happens03:11
Mezs/couble clikc/double click03:13
Mezsee it now ?03:15
Mezhttp://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/screenies/bug1.png03:16
RiddellI can't recreate that03:17
Riddellcurious03:17
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martRiddell: ping?05:40
Riddellmart: hi05:41
martRiddell: did you notice the .la files disappearing from breezy libxrender-dev...?05:42
Riddelloh yes05:42
martkinda makes compiling kde stuff hard, or...?05:42
Riddellsomething still trying to use it?05:42
martI think so, I tried to compile showimg the other day05:43
Riddellwhich version?05:44
martnot sure... apt-get source ... && debuild ... 05:44
martit wasn't installing, so I thought I'd try to install it myself05:44
martshowimg-0.9.4.105:45
Riddellgosh, it's not even been recompiled for new KDE05:45
Riddell"Rebuild for new C++ ABI"  but it wasn't05:45
martoops05:45
martso, in general, kde stuff doesn't require x.org libtool files?05:46
Riddelldepends how the library package has been made05:49
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Riddellbah, libkonq also still uses libXrender.la05:52
Riddelland can't compile kdebase just now because there's no xmkmf05:52
martok, I seem to be having some success compiling bits of koffice with unsermake, but using debuild will take that out of my path05:52
mart"Bummer", said Dougall.05:56
Riddellmart: will take what out?05:56
martusing debuild will take unsermake out of my path05:56
martit cleans the environment first05:56
Riddellwhere is unsermake?05:56
mart /opt/kde/kdenonbeta, or something05:57
Riddellapt-get install unsermake  will put it in /usr/bin05:57
martSelecting previously deselected package automake1.4. :-o05:58
martlooks to be using autotools still - I think unsermake has to be around when make -f Makefile.cvs is run, i.e. before the tarball is made06:01
martwill see if it links...06:01
mart /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory :(06:02
Riddellwhat's that error on?06:02
martI guess it's the final link step06:03
Riddellcompiling what?06:03
marthttp://rafb.net/paste/results/FRRJD829.html06:04
martshowimg06:04
Riddellyes, I've uploaded a new build of kipi but libkonq still wants to use libXrender.la06:04
Riddelland I can't upload a new kdebase for libkonq because there's no xmkmf currently06:05
martah, I see the problem now06:05
Riddellyou can try editing libkonq.la manaually and replacing libXrender.la with -lXrender06:05
martRiddell: it builds!06:11
marthad to do the same with Xcursor06:11
martRiddell: btw, had you thought of using showimg as the default image viewer?06:13
Riddellwhat's the advantage over gwenview?06:13
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martin no particular order: showimg uses more space by default for the picture, which is normally what you want (gwenview layout seems to waste space); wheel button works for moving between images; easier to zoom in showimg; 06:15
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fromozeI haven't use showimg for a while, but I remember that it may be lighter and it remember me irfanview more than other image viewers in linux (and has a nice icon xD)06:18
fromozeBut, now I use gwenview because I thinked it was the 'official' kde-viewer and I'm happy too (the one I don't like is kuickshow) 06:24
fromozeMy 2 cents :)06:24
Riddellsadly kuickshow is still the official KDE image viewer06:25
fromozemay be okular will replace it? or is just a document viewer? -i'll see the web06:26
Riddellokular is for pdf/ps/dvi etc06:27
OculusAquilaehi Riddell06:49
OculusAquilaedo you know about our german irc-channel #kubuntu-de ?06:51
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je4dRiddell: how do i get my kcrashdialog backtraces and debug output back?07:06
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je4dRiddell: uh, nevermind.. the backtrace wasn't there because it was SIGABRT, and the debug's available after compiling from svn07:25
Riddellthere's also kdelibs4c2-dbg with all the debugging symbols07:26
je4dRiddell: is that in breezy only? I get "couldn't find package"07:28
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Riddellje4d: kdelibs4 gained a c2 in breezy07:32
Riddellyou need to set LD_LOAD_PATH with -dbg packages or the like07:32
je4dRiddell: ok, thanks07:33
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