=== calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== venda [~sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh_away [~sh@server3.servereyes.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-190-48.dynamic.qsc.de]  has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] 
=== tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by OculusAquilae at Sun Aug  7 18:55:10 2005
=== sebas [~sebas@vhe-382306.sshn.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== KaiL [KaiL@84.143.116.61]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh_away [~sh@80.237.233.3]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by OculusAquilae at Sun Aug  7 18:55:10 2005
=== seth_k [N=seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh_away [~sh@80.237.233.3]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== KaiL [I=KaiL@p548F743D.dip.t-dialin.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== sebas [N=sebas@vhe-382306.sshn.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Riddell [I=jr@muse.19inch.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== haggai [N=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ttf [N=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== crimsun [N=crimsun@sh.nu]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== je4d [N=jeff@je4d.developer.kde]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== calc [N=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ubuntulog [N=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by OculusAquilae at Sun Aug  7 18:55:10 2005
=== venda [N=sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh_away [N=sh@server3.servereyes.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== tvo [N=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== uniq [I=charlie@3ffe:80ee:31fe:0:0:0:0:33]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== author|afk [N=author@p509041BE.dip.t-dialin.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== author|afk is now known as author
=== \sh_away is now known as \sh
=== ttf [N=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== je4d [N=jeff@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== calc [N=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== fromoze [N=fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Mez [N=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== allee [N=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== author [N=author@p509041BE.dip.t-dialin.net]  has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] 
[12:32] <Mez> Riddell, ping
[12:35] <Riddell> Mez: hi
[12:36] <Mez> Riddell: I did a rebuild fo kynaptic against the new apt ABI
[12:36] <Mez> wanna sponsor it
[12:38] <Riddell> Mez: sure
[12:39] <Mez> Riddell, just uploading now :D
[12:39] <Mez> http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/kynaptic/
[12:40] <Mez> I'll let you know when it's uploaded
[12:40] <Riddell> tvo: interesting http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106066
[12:41] <tvo> Riddell: thanks, will adapt kio-locate docs too
[12:42] <Mez> Riddell, uploaded
[12:42] <Mez> http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/kynaptic/
=== je4d [N=jeff@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== seth_k [N=seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== calc [N=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== sebas [N=sebas@vhe-382306.sshn.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== uniq [I=charlie@3ffe:80ee:31fe:0:0:0:0:33]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Mez [N=Mez@82.13.236.115]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ubuntulog [N=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by OculusAquilae at Sun Aug  7 18:55:10 2005
=== venda [N=sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh [N=Nsh@server3.servereyes.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== tvo [N=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net
=== uniq [I=charlie@3ffe:80ee:31fe:0:0:0:0:33]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== haggai [N=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== allee [N=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== tvo [N=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ttf_ [N=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Mez [N=Mez@82.13.236.115]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== calc [N=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== seth_k [N=seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[12:55] <Mez> Riddell: you get the link to the upload?
=== tvo [N=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== ttf_ [N=tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Mez [N=Mez@82.13.236.115]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== calc [N=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== seth_k [N=seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh is now known as \sh_away
=== Riddell [I=jr@muse.19inch.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[01:06] <Riddell> Mez: yeah got it, any changes made or just a rebuild?
=== Firetech [N=Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Firetech [N=Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com]  has left #kubuntu-devel ["So] 
=== fromoze [N=fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== fromoze [N=fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[02:23] <tvo> yo, got kdelibs and kdebase compiled.. so now running 3.4.1 and 3.5..
[02:23] <tvo> off to test my patch..
=== Mez [N=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== Mez [N=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== JRe [N=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[03:06] <Mez> Riddell: I've come accross a sort of, but in kde-systemsettings
[03:08] <Riddell> bug?
[03:09] <Mez> yeah
[03:09] <Mez> when i click anything, it resizes the window to smaller than it's contents
[03:10] <Mez> and then when i try to maximise, it just shows the main screen of KDESystemsettings outside of where the window bporders previously were
[03:11] <Mez> lemme upload a screeny
[03:11] <Riddell> weird, I don't see that at all
[03:11] <Mez> Riddell
[03:11] <Mez> locad up kdesystemsettings
[03:11] <Mez> then maximise it
[03:11] <Mez> s/locad/load/
[03:11] <Mez> then
[03:11] <Mez> couble clikc an icon and see what happens
[03:13] <Mez> s/couble clikc/double click
[03:15] <Mez> see it now ?
[03:16] <Mez> http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/screenies/bug1.png
[03:17] <Riddell> I can't recreate that
[03:17] <Riddell> curious
=== Mez [N=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== OculusAquilae [N=bastian@p548D0134.dip0.t-ipconnect.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== fromoze [N=fromoze@251.Red-83-33-134.pooles.rima-tde.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== mart [N=mart@socksgw3.ncl.ac.uk]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[05:40] <mart> Riddell: ping?
[05:41] <Riddell> mart: hi
[05:42] <mart> Riddell: did you notice the .la files disappearing from breezy libxrender-dev...?
[05:42] <Riddell> oh yes
[05:42] <mart> kinda makes compiling kde stuff hard, or...?
[05:42] <Riddell> something still trying to use it?
[05:43] <mart> I think so, I tried to compile showimg the other day
[05:44] <Riddell> which version?
[05:44] <mart> not sure... apt-get source ... && debuild ... 
[05:44] <mart> it wasn't installing, so I thought I'd try to install it myself
[05:45] <mart> showimg-0.9.4.1
[05:45] <Riddell> gosh, it's not even been recompiled for new KDE
[05:45] <Riddell> "Rebuild for new C++ ABI"  but it wasn't
[05:45] <mart> oops
[05:46] <mart> so, in general, kde stuff doesn't require x.org libtool files?
[05:49] <Riddell> depends how the library package has been made
=== Riddell tries recompiling kipi
[05:52] <Riddell> bah, libkonq also still uses libXrender.la
[05:52] <Riddell> and can't compile kdebase just now because there's no xmkmf
[05:52] <mart> ok, I seem to be having some success compiling bits of koffice with unsermake, but using debuild will take that out of my path
[05:56] <mart> "Bummer", said Dougall.
[05:56] <Riddell> mart: will take what out?
[05:56] <mart> using debuild will take unsermake out of my path
[05:56] <mart> it cleans the environment first
[05:56] <Riddell> where is unsermake?
[05:57] <mart>  /opt/kde/kdenonbeta, or something
[05:57] <Riddell> apt-get install unsermake  will put it in /usr/bin
[05:58] <mart> Selecting previously deselected package automake1.4. :-o
[06:01] <mart> looks to be using autotools still - I think unsermake has to be around when make -f Makefile.cvs is run, i.e. before the tarball is made
[06:01] <mart> will see if it links...
[06:02] <mart>  /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libXrender.la: No such file or directory :(
[06:02] <Riddell> what's that error on?
[06:03] <mart> I guess it's the final link step
[06:03] <Riddell> compiling what?
[06:04] <mart> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FRRJD829.html
[06:04] <mart> showimg
[06:04] <Riddell> yes, I've uploaded a new build of kipi but libkonq still wants to use libXrender.la
[06:05] <Riddell> and I can't upload a new kdebase for libkonq because there's no xmkmf currently
[06:05] <mart> ah, I see the problem now
[06:05] <Riddell> you can try editing libkonq.la manaually and replacing libXrender.la with -lXrender
[06:11] <mart> Riddell: it builds!
[06:11] <mart> had to do the same with Xcursor
[06:13] <mart> Riddell: btw, had you thought of using showimg as the default image viewer?
[06:13] <Riddell> what's the advantage over gwenview?
=== fromoze prefers showimg options
[06:15] <mart> in no particular order: showimg uses more space by default for the picture, which is normally what you want (gwenview layout seems to waste space); wheel button works for moving between images; easier to zoom in showimg; 
=== OculusAquilae [N=bastian@p548D0134.dip0.t-ipconnect.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[06:18] <fromoze> I haven't use showimg for a while, but I remember that it may be lighter and it remember me irfanview more than other image viewers in linux (and has a nice icon xD)
[06:24] <fromoze> But, now I use gwenview because I thinked it was the 'official' kde-viewer and I'm happy too (the one I don't like is kuickshow) 
[06:24] <fromoze> My 2 cents :)
[06:25] <Riddell> sadly kuickshow is still the official KDE image viewer
[06:26] <fromoze> may be okular will replace it? or is just a document viewer? -i'll see the web
[06:27] <Riddell> okular is for pdf/ps/dvi etc
[06:49] <OculusAquilae> hi Riddell
[06:51] <OculusAquilae> do you know about our german irc-channel #kubuntu-de ?
=== venda [N=sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[07:06] <je4d> Riddell: how do i get my kcrashdialog backtraces and debug output back?
=== author_ [N=author@p5090768A.dip.t-dialin.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[07:25] <je4d> Riddell: uh, nevermind.. the backtrace wasn't there because it was SIGABRT, and the debug's available after compiling from svn
[07:26] <Riddell> there's also kdelibs4c2-dbg with all the debugging symbols
[07:28] <je4d> Riddell: is that in breezy only? I get "couldn't find package"
=== je4d finds kdelibs4-dbg
=== Mez [N=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
[07:32] <Riddell> je4d: kdelibs4 gained a c2 in breezy
[07:32] <Riddell> you need to set LD_LOAD_PATH with -dbg packages or the like
[07:33] <je4d> Riddell: ok, thanks
=== Mez [N=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== author_ [N=author@p5090768A.dip.t-dialin.net]  has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] 
=== tvo [N=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== sebas [N=sebas@vhe-382306.sshn.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== allee [N=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de]  has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== seth_k [N=seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net]  has joined #kubuntu-devel