[12:03] mxpxpod: I cannot see a problem in your screenshot. [12:09] the fonts are too big [12:09] mine has the same issue, except the menu fonts have the same problem [12:10] seth_k, is this like - firefox fonts too big? === azeem [~mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] Mez, indeed [12:11] Mez, it's been an issue ever since 1.0.6 [12:11] I can screenshot mine if you like [12:11] seth_k, hehe :D It's fine in the hoary version though [12:11] seth_ nah [12:11] http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~mez/screenies/ [12:11] there should be one in there [12:12] I managed to fix the webpage text, but not menus [12:12] ah, good show mez [12:12] that's what I get [12:12] morning [12:12] hiya ajmitch [12:12] seth_k, ;) [12:13] seth_k, whatever happened to that package you were meant ot be uploadingto revu [12:13] Mez, am just going to request a Debian synch instead... the debian zsnes package is fine [12:14] seth_k, you was on about a package that wasnt zsnes [12:14] oh right [12:14] still working on it [12:14] can't get the menu items to work right, but other than that almost done === glick [~noobia@cpe-24-193-254-95.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [12:30] This is most certainly the wrong channel to ask in, but I can't find anywhere else to ask: Will openoffice 2.0 stabalise fast enough for inclusion into ubuntu breezy? [12:31] that's really an OOo question. [12:31] they're most certainly more in the know than we are [12:32] I'm not even sure there's an answer to that [12:32] Definitely, but I haven't found a dev channel, and mailing lists are slower. [12:32] So if that doesn't happen, breezy will downgrade openoffice to 1.1.4? === lakin goes in search of the appropriate mailing list. [12:32] no, it will ship with whichever version is currently in Breezy when Breezy freezes. [12:33] ouch, so it could ship with the beta version? [12:34] (Is software ever not in beta?) [12:35] if it's of concern, help iron out the bugs in the version in Breezy :) [12:35] I am. [12:35] ;) [12:36] well there ya go [12:36] Re, software perpetually in beta: true. [12:37] Google services :) [12:38] It's just that I've finally convinced an office I work with to switch to ubuntu/openoffice, and I'm trying to plan the timeline appropriately. [12:39] I was supposed to go in tonight to install openoffice win32, so that we could do some initial testing runs with their current spreadsheets, and then eventually switch to openoffice before the christmas season. Then January 06 we were to switch to ubuntu, I was planning on breezy, but this does change things. :) [12:40] I want the version of openoffice to be similar for win32 and breezy. but with OO.o 2.0 still in beta I think waiting a bit is in order. [12:40] Anyways, this definitely isn't the channel for this discussion. Thanks crimsun. [12:40] blueyed: you can't?? firefox's application font is bigger than the panel font [12:41] seth_k: have you figured out what's up with firefox? [12:42] mxpxpod: oh, i see. no idea though. using kde here. sorry. [12:43] seth_k: it's like firefox isn't paying attention to gnome's dpi setting [12:44] mxpxpod, happens for me on KDE too === WaterSevenUb [~WaterSeve@bl5-44-93.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:46] yeah, I don't use KDE ;) [12:47] yep, just saying that it's not a gnome-specific problem :) [12:48] ah, ok [12:48] maybe it's a firefox problem with X dpi settings... [12:48] I dunno [12:48] I should probably report it later tonight [12:55] ./topic ...X is a lot less broken >> but not yet bootable ;) [12:59] really? boots for me [12:59] with all updates [01:00] yeah, i have all my updates... possibly issue with certain video drivers or something? [01:00] you didn't change anything but just upgraded & dist-upgraded ? [01:05] mxpxpod : firefox has its own dpi settings [01:06] about:config --> browser.display.screen_resolution [01:06] or also in the preferences [01:07] JanC: what are those values supposed to be [01:07] ah i see, the dpi [01:09] I think it's set to 96 by default [01:10] doesnt help the sites that set font sizes in px [01:10] which is many [01:10] It's 0 here. [01:10] 0 here too [01:11] yeh which would end up being 96 most likely [01:11] You could also try echo "Xft.dpi: 96" >> ~/.Xresources and rerun the X server. [01:11] all the prefs seems to think its "system setting" but mine doesnt reflect that [01:11] it's 96 here, but it's possible I changed that [01:11] xerox: or xrdb ~/.Xresources and restart the browser [01:11] Lathiat, right. [01:12] but even setting it doesn't change the menu fonts [01:12] not to mention that Thunderbird has the same problem [01:12] yeh [01:13] It did for me, I had a Xft.dpi: 100 setting for some reason, when I finally commented it out all turned back OK. [01:13] right, it's 0 by default in firefox [01:14] "0" probably means : use system default [01:14] Prolly. [01:14] oh, I didn't see the .Xresources suggestion. I'll try that now [01:15] nah, I don't even have that file [01:15] Create it. [01:16] That is: echo "Xft.dpi: 100" > ~/.Xresources [01:16] elmo: please sync cccc from unstable (gcc 4 build fixes) [01:16] Then, as Lathiat said: xrdb ~/.Xresources and restart the browser. [01:17] no go [01:17] menus still huge [01:18] Put the monitor more distant :P [01:18] ah well, will be fixed in time i'm sure [01:18] hehe [01:18] it's a 20.5" flatscreen [01:18] across the room, still huge [01:18] ;) [01:19] You're rich. [01:19] negative [01:19] I paid less than $50 for it, all said and done [01:20] $800 - 40% off - $60 coupon - $100 coupon - $50 coupon - $15 coupon - $200 from selling my old 17" flatscreen [01:20] woot [01:20] I stalk Dell === Kamion goes sheesh at #13278. How much effort can it take to search for duplicates before filing? There is precisely one other bug open on that component, which is exactly the same. [01:21] haha [01:22] Open a bug for the person opening duplicate bugs. [01:22] heh [01:22] open a bug about bugzilla being broken :) === calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] Riddell: I'd suggest rebuilding kynaptic against the new apt ABI [01:40] Kamion- just a rebuild? [01:41] I'll do it and pass it onto Riddell [01:41] I need something to do === ogra [~ogra@p5089EB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] I think just a rebuild should be fine, but try a test build first === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] though adding support for the new progress API to kynaptic would be even better [01:49] builds fine, I haven't tried running it === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-068-111.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:54] anyone looking at this aspell transition pain in main? [01:58] hmm, never mind, I'll do it [02:03] Kamion: all new dictionaries should be synced from unstable. it's on my monitor, but sync requests on the weekend don't reach elmo's radar [02:13] doko: ok, if you're on it that's fine === ogra [~ogra@p5089EB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Rotund [~joe@d5-166.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:33] scrollkeeper-update -p /var/scrollkeeper -o /build/buildd/eog-2.11.90/debian/eog//usr/share/omf/eog [02:33] Could not create directory /var/scrollkeeper : Permission denied [02:33] Could not create database. Aborting update. [02:33] Cannot write to log file: /var/log/scrollkeeper.log : Permission denied [02:33] Cannot write to log file: /var/log/scrollkeeper.log : Permission denied === lamont larts scrollkeepr [02:36] seems more like eog's fault for feeding scrollkeeper-update a bogus path? === Kamion wonders what the heck's up with cron.sync [02:38] cjwatson@jackass:/srv/ftp.no-name-yet.com/sync/germinate/output$ grep xlibmesa supported.seed [02:38] xlibmesa3 | xorg | Supported seed | Ubuntu X Maintainers | 171368 | 268 [02:38] (among others) [02:38] but I removed that from the supported seed several days ago ... [02:42] ah, light dawns, that's the Edubuntu seed [02:51] JanC, xerox, seth_k, Lathiat: that resolution setting in firefox doesn't fix it... could it be that GNOME is reading a different setting for dpi than firefox? === rob^_ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^_ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:32] it could be [03:32] i think gtk/pango with cairo is now reading X for dpi [03:32] and not the gnome font setting [03:33] i would assume firefox gets it from gtk [03:33] tseng: all of my GNOME apps read it from gnome === Kamion wonders if it's known that mono-assemblies-arch is uninstallable within main [03:33] Kamion: that package even exists? [03:33] its been empty for some time, i thought we finally killed it [03:34] mono-assemblies-arch | 1.1.7-0ubuntu9 | breezy | amd64, i386, powerpc [03:34] ah, no longer built [03:34] right, its gone [03:34] but something still depends/build-depends on it [03:35] i cant think of anything that ever depended on it [03:35] d'oh, guys, it's in the supported seed :-P [03:35] eh, besides that [03:35] lets kill it please. === Kamion nukes it [03:35] thanks :) === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [~daniels@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487E802.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:30] mxpxpod, xerox, seth_k, JanC: firefox in breezy doesnt pay attention to DPI like its supposed to, works fine in deer park, even setting DPI within firefox screws up [05:30] Lathiat, word [05:30] Lathiat, gimmie Firefox 1.5 for Breezy then :P [05:30] filing a bug [05:30] awesome [05:31] cross-file for Thunderbird; it has the same problem [05:31] thunderbird works fine for me [05:31] really? let me check again [05:31] im on 120 dpi [05:31] and thunderbird comes up right [05:31] same as deer park alpha 2 [05:31] nope, its menus are huge for me :/ [05:31] firefox does not [05:31] seth_k: hrm well im going the other way [05:31] i want them bigger [05:32] havent tried makign it <96 [05:32] hmmm [05:32] For me, it's just that they're not the same size as my other KDE menus [05:32] i want them consistent [05:32] hrm i set dpi to 72 [05:32] and thunderbird still looks like 120 [05:32] hey, is deer park not dying every 10 minutes today? [05:32] Amaranth: wfm(tM) [05:33] from the other day [05:36] Lathiat, ah ha... I'll bet it's a KDE thing. Because Gaim has big fonts too. So maybe Firefox is broken for all, but all GTK apps are broken for KDE [05:37] well [05:37] i use gnome [05:37] and set the DPI in the gnome capplet [05:39] it's probably a pango/xft thing [05:39] er, pango/cairo [05:40] daniels: ah, would make sense [05:41] yeah, I'm getting cairo warnings on all my GTK apps... they all crash when I try to bring up any menu [05:41] gaim, synaptic, anything [05:41] wfm [05:41] maybe a KDE thing again? [05:41] switch to gnome and find out :) [05:42] hehe, yeah, I'll boot a second session real fast === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-67-188-204-176.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:43] kde doesn't set XSETTINGS [05:43] though fcrozat wrote a patch for mdk [05:45] blah, some stupid stories get on slashdot, whinging about google caching images of some nuclear thing in australia, when to get an image or page removed from google is a rather simple process. [05:46] except it's pointless [05:47] since the layout of lucas heights is well-known [05:47] uhuh [05:47] Lathiat: err, they're talking about google maps [05:47] and it's easy to get in, as demonstrated by a hundred greenpeace people in toxic-waste-barrels who overran the compex last year [05:47] i thought [05:47] Lathiat, found it [05:47] Amaranth: oh? didnt get that by reading it [05:47] Lathiat, it crashed in gnome too, so I removed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [05:47] oh, and the people who absailed off the reactor itself [05:47] and no more crashes :) === seth_k files a bug [05:48] bob2: holy shit, 100 greenpeace people got into a nuclear plant? [05:48] seth_k: gtk-qt engine and cairo don't get along [05:48] Amaranth: it's .au, they don't worry about things like security [05:48] Amaranth, bug-worthy or does gtk-qt just get scrapped in favor of something else now? [05:48] it's not a "nuclear plant" it's a "half-arsed research reactor" [05:48] afaik this is a known issue and won't be getting fixed any time soon [05:48] we went on a school excursion to inside the containment building [05:48] bob2: research only, isn't it? [05:49] yeah [05:49] and making radioactive stuff for hospitals [05:50] anyone who wants that kind of info is likely to be able to get it anyway [05:50] you can get anything for the right price [05:50] ogra: I don't know what your issue is with ssh/ldm; it worked for me the last time I was able to try it (I need X fixes now) === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:52] haha, nsw health has a plan for distributing iodine after an accident to people living near the reactor [05:52] whats iodine do? [05:53] helps stop uptake of some radioactive isotopes in the body [05:53] Lathiat: avoids absorption of the radioactive iodine, iirc [05:53] Lathiat: helps a bit against radiation poisoning [05:53] ah [05:54] mdz: which X fixs do you need? [05:54] ALL OF THEM [05:55] it's like in movies, where the bad guy says KILL THEM ALL [05:55] heh [05:56] is the bug that prevents me from CTRL+ALT+F#'ing to a different session from X? [05:56] or is it not X-related [05:56] that works for me now [05:57] that works [05:58] I'm 100% up-to-date and it's still a no go for me, something manual I need to do? === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.56.3] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:58] seth_k: reinstall xkbutils and xkeyboard-config [05:59] ah [06:00] seth_k: see my mail to ubuntu-{devel,users} [06:00] $ dpkg -L xutils [06:00] /. [06:00] /usr [06:00] /usr/share [06:00] /usr/share/doc [06:00] /usr/share/doc/xutils [06:00] /usr/share/doc/xutils/copyright [06:00] /usr/share/doc/xutils/NEWS.Debian.gz [06:00] /usr/share/doc/xutils/changelog.Debian.gz [06:00] [06:01] jdub: feature, not a bug [06:01] serious lack of xmkmf, however [06:01] jdub: think of it as encouragement to use something sensible === jdub wants to fix mgp, because the last version that built is broken [06:01] ok, that is not a useful answer [06:01] mkmf? [06:01] err, xkmf [06:01] bleh [06:01] stupid name [06:01] what is it? [06:02] stupi build tool [06:03] daniels: on my laptop, X generated a configuration which gave me DefaultDepth 1 [06:03] mdz: haha === jdub growls at .gz build logs :-| [06:03] jdub: need a mozilla extensions? :) [06:03] -s [06:04] mdz: nice one [06:04] mdz: still radeon hardware? [06:04] not when 'just works' would be more satisfying [06:04] daniels: yep [06:04] daniels: so...? [06:04] hrm, two mirrors just broke their universe Packages.gz at the same time. :\ [06:04] daniels: in an ltsp scenario, I get a syntactically invalid X config file (extra EndSection), though it's possible that that's some sort of NFS or unionfs weirdness. I haven't looked into it [06:06] mdz: i can't see any possibility for extra EndSections in dexconf [06:06] jdub: 'later'. difficult problem. [06:06] mdz: can you please clag me the output of sudo xresprobe radeon in /msg? [06:07] jj [06:07] daniels: is xresprobe supposed to show somethign up in freq: [06:07] daniels: later being before we ship breezy with stuff in universe not building? === AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:07] Lathiat: on laptops, no [06:07] daniels: ok [06:07] jdub: probably, yes [06:08] daniels: also when you get a chance can you send an email about what to do with gl and glu deps? === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:09] Lathiat: ok [06:09] daniels: cheers === Xyc0 [~Xyc0@ip70-179-1-7.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ydo [tbe@debian.as] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] daniels: hey.. I noticed the Xorg binary is still in xserver-xorg instead of xserver-xorg-core, defeating the whole purpose of moving all the stuff in the first place. packaging error? === SloMo [~slomo@p5487F466.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:17] TerminX: 'tis but a symlink [06:18] are you sure about that? [06:18] the package is almost 300k [06:18] seems kind of large for a symlink and nothing else really in it [06:18] lathiat@archer:~$ du -sh /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg [06:18] 228K /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg [06:18] oh [06:18] wtf then [06:19] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2005-08-06 02:15 /usr/bin/Xorg -> ../X11R6/bin/Xorg [06:19] never mind then [06:19] :) [06:19] I sure feel dumb now [06:19] heh [06:20] 'sok, we all have our dumb moments [06:21] aye.. [06:21] say, can someone try to replicate a bug for me? [06:22] open synaptic, click a package, hold shift, hold the down arrow to select a bunch of them [06:22] X locks for me if I do such a thing [06:22] X also locks if I right click in synaptic and tell it to mark a package for upgrade [06:23] X locks or the synaptic window locks [06:23] I ssh in from another machine and see X using all the CPU [06:23] works for me [06:23] wtf [06:23] I wonder where the problem lies on my end then [06:23] strace it, see what its doing [06:24] it'l be spinning on something [06:24] spin, sping sugar. [06:25] trace the app too [06:26] it might be doing something stupid [06:31] Lathiat: http://pastebin.com/331734 === otavio is now known as otavio[off] === Xoff [~mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:47] Riddell: libqt3-mt-dev seems to be currently in conflict with x-window-system-core; would you look into it? === AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:10] probably xlibmesa-gl vs libgl1-xorg hilarity [07:16] daniels: have any other l-r-m bug reports come in since .12 went up? 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[09:44] 13:22 < Mithrandir> hm, anybody know the status of the remote buffer overflows in clamav? [09:44] 13:31 < tseng> Mithrandir: last with a CVE is 2004 [09:44] 13:44 < Mithrandir> tseng: see http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=86638&release_id=344514 [09:44] 13:44 < Mithrandir> "Changes in this release include fixes for three possible integer overflows in libclamav" [09:45] Mithrandir: I didn't deal with that since it is universe; can we sync from debian? === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] pitti: possibly. 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[10:53] doko: pong [10:53] pitti: when you import locale data from rosetta into the language packs, are the language pack source packages updated with the new data? [10:54] doko: yes (but I don't do that yet) [10:55] pitti: so I assume, it's ok, if I don't do that as well for OOo? [10:55] do we have any ftpmaster around? === marilize [N=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [N=carlos@80.187.151.68] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:59] doko: I don't do it because rosetta output still doesn't work, but as soon as it does, I will [11:00] Hi carlos! back in spain? [11:00] pitti, no, waiting at London [11:00] pitti, btw, hi [11:01] hey carlos [11:01] carlos: is the import done? [11:01] pitti: ok, so you build the source package first, and upload that one? on which machine do you do this? [11:01] seb128, it should [11:01] still downloading mail [11:02] carlos: could thanks. How was you trip? [11:02] seb128, anyway, the language packs needs a script run on production, and it depends on Stuart (our DB admin) being online and I think it will not happen until tomorrow [11:02] seb128, it was not too long, but I didn't sleep enough :-( [11:03] carlos: pitti rolled some language-packs so that's not why I ask, I ask because I'm waiting for that to send a mail about the french translations and the l10n list ... no point to translated non-imported po that will only confuse people [11:03] seb128, hmm, if you can wait until the script is run is better [11:04] doko: on rookery [11:04] seb128, so the data is 100% fixed [11:04] carlos: just ping me when that's ready, thanks :) [11:04] seb128, count with that [11:04] doko: yes, langpack-o-matic takes the data tarball, and creates/updates the langpack source packages [11:05] doko: then I can test them, and if everything works, I upload [11:06] pitti: and carlos provides you with the language data on rookery? [11:06] pitti, did you send me a spec update? === carlos is still waiting for the email downloading [11:07] what ever happened to xev? [11:07] doko: currently I build the data on my own from the tarballs that are stripped on the buildds [11:08] mxpxpod: It was terminated with extreme prejudice. [11:08] or whatever they say in stupid action movies [11:08] doko: later I will download them from maswan probably [11:08] carlos: doko did, I didn't yet; will do today [11:08] Amaranth: what?? that sucks... [11:08] pfft, who needs xev? [11:09] pitti, yeah, I got doko's changes already. Ok, thanks. I need that spec finished to start the implementation as soon as possible. as I said, language packs will be my main task this week [11:09] Amaranth: is there an alternative? === windex is now known as windex|sleeps === janimo [N=jani@iv.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:10] <\sh> hmmm....did anybody had a look on http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/knet/0.6beta1-1ubuntu3/knet_0.6beta1-1ubuntu3_20050807-1512-amd64-failed.gz from yesterday? [11:11] <\sh> very strang thing [11:11] segfault? === jinty [N=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:14] holy cow... peter jennings died [11:14] :/ [11:15] yep [11:16] seb128: libsoup> yes [11:16] pitti: hmm, is there any chance that language-support-* could get fixed installability-wise today? [11:17] Kamion: yes, it's on today's agenda [11:17] good, thanks [11:17] Kamion: can you accept it or do we have to wait for elmo? [11:17] Kamion: sudo apt-get --dry-run install language-support-de works fine [11:18] Kamion: is there any way I can debug this without actually installing everything? [11:18] seb128: done [11:19] pitti: try it from a freshly debootstrapped chroot [11:19] Kamion: I need to update the dependencies for oo.o2 anyway [11:19] pitti: also, aspell-* is broken; doko said he was working on that, and that it was basically just waiting for syncs [11:19] Kamion: thanks [11:20] pitti: I'm more worried about the openoffice.org-thesaurus-* thing than aspell-*, since that impacts language-support-en and therefore contributes to ubuntu-live being uninstallable [11:20] Kamion: I'm more concerned about my bandwidth, but I have another idea [11:20] Kamion: I have the latest amd64 dvd [11:20] you also don't have to actually install everything [11:21] as above, dry-run is fine, you just need to not have any obsolete/local packages installed or universe enabled [11:21] Kamion: so I already have all debs, I just need to fix X on my amd64 install [11:21] pitti: apt-get install complains before downloading when there is b0rkage [11:21] s/is/is some/ [11:21] ok, thanks [11:22] as I said, it works fine on my breezy [11:22] but I have universe, I'll disable that [11:22] you probably have packages outside main installed, or some packages not up to date [11:22] maybe you have some packages installed here not available to install atm :p [11:22] s/:p// [11:22] openoffice.org-l10n-de | 1.1.4-5ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages [11:23] hm, shouldn't that be universe now? [11:23] anyway, I try in a chroot [11:28] pitti: language-support-de still depends on openoffice.org-l10n-de, so it can't be demoted === vedran [N=vedran@secondary.energodata.ba] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:28] ah, that way [11:28]