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delireDekaPink: muarharhar. not long now. not long..12:00
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Tarcastilerr, I'm not looking to see if I have a package installed12:00
pcharkydelire: Thanks, i didn't use that one before, it quite fits my needs.. ;-)12:00
_SWAT_pcharky, sorry don't know about that? (and what do you actually mean)12:00
TarcastilI'm trying to tell apt I have a package I installed without it12:00
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DekaPinkdelire: I know... though I'm still going to want it or a virtual machine for like... TMPGenc... and Share. xD12:01
calamari_hmm..  appears to be runnign from /etc/cron.daily/slocate  .. any harm in getting rid of that file ?12:01
delireDekaPink: you know it's all over for windows when you find yourself saying things like "time to cut out the rot" and feeling warm when imagining running df -h12:01
thoreauputicTarcastil: erm... difficult since that implies you went outside the package management system12:01
krypsahh, it was my box that is the problem, it won't start anymore.. it's the psu12:01
pcharky_SWAT_: I meant if you know whether there is a repository with plugin-packages for beep-media-player.12:01
Tarcastilthoreauputic, I just need to say I have java to satisfy dependencies12:02
thoreauputicTarcastil: if it was a .deb apt should know about it12:02
Tarcastilsince it's a binary install instead of a makefile, I couldn't checkinstall it12:02
DekaPinkdelire: Hehe... Yeah, it's getting there, for sure. I was very discontent the other night when I broke my Ubuntu and couldn't think about anything until it was fixed. xD12:02
_SWAT_pcharky, I don't know. Maybe you should checkout the ubuntu backports repo's :D12:02
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pcharky_SWAT_: Thanks.12:03
delirecalamari_ i meant to ask, do you have DMA on the disk / is mounted on?12:03
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Codyis there anyway to get the file browser to  use the same action as right click on folder -> browse12:03
Codywhen double clicking12:03
calamari_delire: you asked, but I'm not sure how to figure that one out12:03
brokeboyin need of some assistance.  cant get my .mp3s or .avis or anything to play on ubuntu! and what is the equivalent to .exe on ubuntu? i download freeware off the internet for linux and cant even get the files to run.  shit most of the time i cant even find the files! whats the equlivent to the program folder in ubuntu?12:03
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thoreauputicCody: edit - preferences - behaviour - always open in browser12:04
ray_ok i have a question involving mplayer12:04
lukisshello, im trying out the ppc liveCD on an old powerbook and it works fine... just one thing i cant figure out, how do you do a right mb click in gnome when you're on a mac?12:04
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thoreauputiclukiss: use the F12 key12:04
delirecalamari_: 'hdparm -d /dev/hda' where "hda" is your harddisk.12:04
flodinedelire what do i do to update my files for the new wmii12:05
delirecalamari_: be careful to type that line exactly12:05
Codyty thoreauputic :)12:05
bur[n] erf12 == specific command... right click is different with every window that is focused12:05
Tarcastilthoreauputic: there's no dpkg command to tell apt I went outside the package manager?12:05
bur[n] erf12 would work for desktop i think12:05
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crimsunbrokeboy: slow down. (1) Install gstreamer0.8-mad and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg. (2) There are no .exe files. Look at the file type: if it's executable, it's marked +x. You can see via ls -l. (3) /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin are the closest. There is no one program folder since executable files can be anywhere (more or less).12:05
delireflodine: are you running hoary?12:05
calamari_delire: /dev/hda: using_dma    =  1 (on)12:05
flodineyes12:05
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delireflodine: i would simply compile it12:05
ray_i have to use oss in mplayer and it works fine when i open mplayer then open the file.....if i open a file from the file-browser it is choppy like it is still running alsa12:05
calamari_so it appears dma is on.. good :)12:05
thoreauputicTarcastil: well, dpkg is there to manage packages so...12:05
tarvidmodems - which pci modems work?12:05
lukissohlala, it works! thank you!12:05
delirecalamari_: hmm, well having DMA on should really lighten the load of that slocate12:05
flodinedelire you mean with a tar file12:05
delireflodine: yes12:06
Tarcastilalright, well, thanks for the info12:06
pcharky_SWAT_: brokeboy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:06
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pcharky_SWAT_: sorry12:06
MrYodaevening12:06
pcharkybrokeboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:06
flodinedelire will it come up in the start menu12:06
cheesycow5_i think every website on the internet is going down12:06
delireflodine: will what come up?12:06
flodinewmmi12:06
thoreauputicTarcastil: you might have to install manually with --force-depends12:06
calamari_delire: does the Gnome search tool use slocate to find its files ?12:06
delireflodine: wmii is a window manager. it isn't run inside KDE or Gnome.12:06
brokeboythanks .  im off to try more trial and error.  i'll be back soon im sure.12:07
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flodinedelire i want it in my log in screen12:07
delirecalamari_: i believe as resourced from 'find', yes12:07
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delireflodine: it should appear there, yes12:07
delires/from/by12:07
MrYodai have a little problem: ubuntu installation asked me to define a login and password, which i did. after that it did a reboot and did some finalization, which failed (compile error). now the shell asks me to login, but it won't accept the data i previously provided. is there any way to get things to work besides a complete reinstall?12:08
paccerokay - sacrificing a goat didnt work.. what the heck am i to do now? :(12:08
delireflodine: sorry "wmii is a window manager that doesn't run inside KDE or Gnome."12:08
paccermy samba simply broke in a unique way that aparently really sucks12:08
cheesycow5_yea, i think i accidentally took down the internet12:08
cheesycow5_i was clicking to many links to fast12:08
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delirepaccer: when you 'dpkg -l | grep samba' do you see "ii" next to the output?12:09
flodinedelire i understand just want it in my login screen12:09
delireflodine: that'll work fine i believe12:09
paccerdelire: yes12:09
delirepaccer: and for samba-common also?12:09
pacceryes12:09
flodinedelire what version do i get12:10
Snippysomeone knows about cedega and steam ?12:10
delirehmm. what is the fatal error/issue?12:10
delireflodine: wmii-212:10
delireflodine: the 'snapshot'12:10
thoreauputicpaccer: possibly ask someone who has samba to do a dpkg -L samba and see what files you are missing, then do dpkg -x to look at the entrails of your package and move the relevant bits to the right places12:10
paccerdelire: you asking me for error?12:10
delireflodine: when you install wmii, make sure you go through the tutorial presented to you.12:10
delirepaccer: yes12:10
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paccerdelire: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/222012:11
flodinedelire snapshot is ion 312:11
evertonola12:11
delirepaccer: thoreauputic has a good suggestion there. why not find someone here and compare?12:11
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delireflodine: you lost me there.12:11
flodinedelire http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html12:12
pcharkyCan anybody tell me something about breezy? I got it installed on a separate partition-set to check it out. But gnome won't start. sessreg, and gdmwhich are missing.12:12
paccercan anyone do a dpkg -L samba for me please, and paste it on http://pastebin.arslinux.com maby? - would really apriciate it12:12
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Snippywhen I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..12:12
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vladuz976anybody know how i get ssh running on ubuntu?12:12
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thoreauputicvladuz976: just install openssh-server12:13
pcharkyvladuz976: sudo apt-get install ssh12:13
thoreauputicor that12:13
Snippycan someone help me please?12:13
vladuz976pcharky: thoreauputic and then how do i startit?12:13
pacceranyone with samba inhere? - i need a favor12:13
thoreauputicvladuz976: it starts by default12:13
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pcharkyvladuz976: it starts by default, but if you want to start manually: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh {start|restart}12:13
levanderDoes Nero support creating ISO's with Rock Ridge extensions?12:13
thoreauputicvladuz976: else you would do  sudo invoke-rc,d ssh start12:14
crimsunlevander: it does by default.12:14
delirepaccer: that is very little information. what are you doing when this happens?12:14
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delireflodine: i meant the wmii-2.0 snapshot12:14
levandercrimsun: the Nero for Linux or the Nero for Windows?12:14
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paccerdelire: its a mail.. all i am doing is... nothing :)12:14
thoreauputicvladuz976: or sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start12:14
crimsunlevander: both.12:14
calamarire's12:14
delirepaccer: there will be samba logs that can help.12:14
paccerdelire: i am doing nothing at all while it keeps spamming me with identical mails like that12:14
levandercrimsun: really? I see an option to turn on Joliet, but not an option to turn on Rock Ridge12:15
levandercrimsun: and yes, Joliet is on by default12:15
Tarcastilthoreauputic: is --force-depends in the man page for apt-get?12:15
calamarifroze again.. I guess it didn't like me moving slocate.. kinda weird too because it took a little while before it froze12:15
delirepaccer: sadly i don't run samba here, i don't know where samba logs are caught.12:15
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thoreauputicTarcastil: dpkg12:15
paccerdelire: i do12:15
delirepaccer: samba is used by millions, there will be a fix at hand i'm sure.12:15
delirepaccer: consider the samba users mailing list12:15
vladuz976thoreauputic: says command not found12:15
thoreauputicvladuz976: which of the two?12:16
delireflodine: http://wmi.modprobe.de/download/wmii-2.tar.bz212:16
vladuz976thoreauputic: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start12:16
Tarcastilthoreauputic: so if I use that option with the name of something, that something will be used as a dependency even though apt doesn't know about it?12:16
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thoreauputicvladuz976: if ssh is installed, that isn't possible12:16
_SWAT_paccer, /var/log/samba12:17
Snippycan someone help me please?12:17
Snippywhen I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..12:17
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paccer_SWAT_: thank you, but i know :)12:17
samuwhere is the settings file for vim located?12:17
thoreauputicTarcastil: no, you install packages manually using the option12:17
pcharkycalamari: try breezy and reconsidder ;-)12:17
crimsunlevander: it may be version-dependent. Not much sense in supporting RR by itself on Nero/win32.12:17
calamaripcharky: lol.. yeah I'm sure Hoary is great compared to that haha12:17
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thoreauputicTarcastil: be careful - --force-depends is a last resort and not recommended12:18
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juanejanybody with amarok working on gnome?12:19
Bubbling_Zombieyupz12:19
calamarihmm, after the reboot everything seems fine.. searching works without crashing me this time12:19
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pcharkyjuanej: what's the problem?12:19
juanejit doesnt play12:19
juaneji downloaded it from synaptic12:19
juanejopen it12:19
pcharkyjuanej: do you have arts installed?12:19
vladuz976thoreauputic: but the invoke-rc.d ssh start doesn't work12:19
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calamariso if it crashes again it can't be because of slocate :)12:20
juanejlet me see12:20
crimsunjuanej: you need to install the 'amarok-gstreamer' package.12:20
thoreauputicvladuz976: *sigh* what does pgrep sshd return?12:20
vladuz976thoreauputic: only an id12:20
BlueWeaselI'm wanting to do a lightweight installation of ubuntu using the server installation and Gnome. Is there a particular package that will handle this?12:21
thoreauputicvladuz976: Then it's already running!!12:21
Chaotic_Realityhi all.  i see that it's possible to play mp3s via a samba share using amaroK, but it doesn't appear to allow me select a whole directory in add to the collection, only individual files - is there a way to add a folder containing all my organized mp3s into the program?12:21
vladuz976thoreauputic: so it'll be running next time by default?12:21
crimsunBlueWeasel: erm, gnome is essentially what you get with the default Ubuntu installation...12:21
thoreauputicvladuz976: yup12:21
juanejwhen i try to install gstreamer:   Depends: amarok (=2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4) but 2:1.2.4-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp2 is to be installed12:21
BlueWeaselI've read on the forums about "apt-get install unbuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install gnome"12:21
Tarcastilthoreauputic: alright, thanks. I'll just install the package without apt12:21
vladuz976thoreauputic: cool, thanks12:21
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pcharkyvladuz976: I told you it starts by default.12:22
crimsunjuanej: the backports line is causing problems. Comment it out, refresh, and try installing 'amarok-gstreamer' again.12:22
thoreauputicvladuz976: I seem to recall saying about half an hour ago that it "starts by default"12:22
samuexcuse me, could somebody tell me how to change the tab size in vim?12:22
BlueWeaselcrimson: yes, but I don't want any of the default applications installed.12:22
crimsunBlueWeasel: how do you plan to use GNOME without any of the default applications?12:22
calamaridelire: thanks for identiying my problem12:22
juanejnope12:22
juanejdoesnt work12:22
crimsunjuanej: you have to configure amarok to use gstreamer.12:23
vladuz976thoreauputic: very true12:23
juanejmay i reinstall amarok?12:23
BlueWeasel I want to be able to install just the applications I want12:23
crimsunjuanej: Preferences> Engines12:23
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levanderFrom what I'm reading, Linux supports Joliet.  Anybody know if this is true?12:23
juanejbut12:23
calamariI'm gonna get some stuff done .. as much as I love fooling around with this hehe12:23
juanejgstreamer is not installed12:23
calamaricya12:23
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crimsunjuanej: erm, are you in GNOME, KDE, or ...?12:23
messjulevander: it is true12:23
juanejgnome12:23
crimsunjuanej: and are you using esd?12:24
juanejaRTs i think12:24
paccerdelire, still there?12:24
Snippycan someone help me please?12:24
Snippywhen I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..12:24
Snippy:(12:24
crimsunjuanej: go to System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink12:24
levandermessju: so, if I don't care about permissions on the files that I'm about to burn to DVD, I don't have to worry that Nero doesn't support Rock Ridge?12:24
crimsunjuanej: what does it use?12:24
=== gpd installs Call of Duty in Ubuntu with cedega...
PegaNow a question to thoreauputic and the other helpers: Why in hell are you doing this? You aren't getting paid at all, right? I mean... If I knew this stuff, I would certainly answer a few questions daily, but some of you seem to spend hours just to actively answer questions here. And in 4 days I haven't seen, not even once, the letters RTFM :S12:24
crimsunlevander: that's correct.12:24
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levandercrimsun: great, thanks! thanks messju12:25
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juanejESD12:25
equexcould i "mount" a .rar file in linux in anyway ?12:25
gpddamn... the cd won't eject to put in the next one... :(12:25
thoreauputicPega: hahah - do you believe in altruism? *g*12:25
pcharkyPega: some people _LIKE_ helping other people.12:25
delirepaccer: i really can't help much, i just don't work with any windows machines..12:25
aruPega: we lost the manual, so this is all we have12:25
juanejcrimsun:  its ESD12:25
delirepaccer: thus have no real use for samba. hmm12:25
crimsunjuanej: so you ARE using esound, which means you need the 'amarok-gstreamer' package.12:25
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thoreauputicPega: helps us to stay in practice ;)12:25
crimsunjuanej: you need to get rid of the backports line.12:25
paccercan anyone maby help me spot what is wrong with my samba? - http://paccer.dk/log.smbd12:25
Pega:)12:25
juaneji already comment it12:26
crimsunjuanej: did you update?12:26
juanejyep12:26
aru!tell paccer about samba12:26
ray_does anybody know the command to run the gui version of mplayer from the term?12:26
juanejwith the reload button12:26
crimsunjuanej: apt-cache policy amarok-gstreamer12:26
_SWAT_Pega, how old are you and what do you do for a living (because of your remarks)12:26
housetierray_ gmplayer12:26
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ray_housetier, thank you so much12:26
paccerthank you aru - it doesnt help me tho12:26
Pega_SWAT_, 15 and I do... Nothing.  Study mostly.12:26
Chaotic_Realityhi all.  i see that it's possible to play mp3s via a samba share using amaroK, but it doesn't appear to allow me select a whole directory in add to the collection, only individual files - is there a way to add a folder containing all my organized mp3s into the program? anyone know?12:27
_SWAT_Pega, and sharing and helping eachother is GREAT or not? It's the OS-idea ;)12:27
pcharkyPega: Why are YOU doing thist, are YOU getting payed to be an ignorant **12:27
arupaccer: sorry about that12:27
_SWAT_Pega, thought so :P12:27
juanejcrimsun:  Installed: (none)12:27
EasterSunshinei lvoe helping ppl12:27
EasterSunshineeven though i'm just idling12:27
paccernot a problem, aru :)12:27
vladuz976thoreauputic: it's running but i can't log in12:27
vladuz976thoreauputic: it just hangs12:27
crimsunjuanej: and Candidate?12:27
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thoreauputicPega: from a self-interest viewpoint - if *I* have a problem I hope the community will help me too :)12:28
delirepaccer: wow, a bit of a mess in there.12:28
juanejCandidate: 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu412:28
delirethoreauputic: here hear12:28
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paccerdelire: yes - but something specific must cause it12:28
crimsunjuanej: now what's the installed version of 'amarok'?12:28
EasterSunshinethere should be more ppl like thoreauputic in the world12:28
paccercant figure out what, tho12:28
EasterSunshinehe is slowly changing the way i look at life12:28
delirepaccer: /join #samba12:28
thoreauputicvladuz976: hmm - are you running a firewall?12:28
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delirepaccer: there are 80 people in there12:29
paccerdelire - i will try.. thanks for your help12:29
juanejcrimsun:  1.2.412:29
wikanhi all12:29
wikanim newbie here12:29
vladuz976no12:29
Chaotic_Realityok does anyone know if there is an extension for xmms that will queue up folders from a samba share? heh12:29
vladuz976thoreauputic: no12:29
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Chaotic_Realitycuz i'd much rather use that instead12:29
ray_anyone use xfce?12:29
juanejmay i unistall it and install with synaptic again?12:29
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pcharkyChaotic_Reality: did you mount the shares?12:30
thoreauputicvladuz976: can you ssh localhost on the machine that is running the server ?12:30
messjuray_: yes, but not on my ubuntu machine :)12:30
vladuz976thoreauputic: thoreauputic yeah that works12:30
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vladuz976but from my laptop it doesn't work12:30
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crimsunjuanej: there's your problem. You need to uninstall 'amarok' from backports, then install the version from hoary.12:30
juanejcrimsun?12:30
juanejahm mok12:30
vladuz976thoreauputic: also i have my friend try to log in and it doesn't work12:30
PegaHmm. Too difficult to comprehend... Brains... Melting... I would understand a few questions but... Do you people ever get annoyed thinking "If he would read ubuntuguide he wouldnt ask that" or "if he searched forums for 5 minutes he would save a lot of trouble from both of us". :S12:30
crimsunjuanej: then you can install 'amarok-gstreamer' from hoary, too.12:30
Chaotic_Realitypcharky, i can already see the share via samba, i don't think that's the problem. i can individually select mp3s inside of amarok, but iw ant to select the directory that contains all of my mp3s...doesn't seem to be able to do that12:31
juanejok thx12:31
thoreauputicvladuz976: OK so the problem is ssh ing to the machine from outside, right? Which suggests the machine isn't allowing connections12:31
vladuz976thoreauputic: i guess so12:31
pcharkyChaotic_Reality: Yeah, but how did you connect to the samba-share?12:31
Codyin a shell script, is there anyway to specify the color of an echo?12:31
samuso, umm how to change tab size in vim or location of vims config file please?12:32
pcharkyChaotic_Reality: And can you select whole directories on the local filesystem.12:32
Chaotic_Realitypcharky, playlist->add media->browse to samba share. unless i'm not understanding what you're saying.12:32
vladuz976thoreauputic: any idea what i could try12:32
Chaotic_Realitypcharky, i don't want to do that. i want to select one directory off a samba share which contains 5000 mp3s. not select them all individually.12:32
Chaotic_Realityheh12:32
thoreauputicvladuz976: do you have any settings in /etc/hosts.allow or hosts.deny? Have you checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config or the other files in that dir?12:32
delirePega: the idea is to help people help themselves. sometimes this does best start with documentation, but mostly use. largely people don't know where to start looking. a mix of reading and asking and then application is a fast road to practical awareness.12:33
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deltabCody: tput setaf 4; echo hello; tput setaf 912:33
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pcharkyChaotic_Reality: I understand that, but can you do so on the local filesystem.12:33
paccerdelire: looks like its 80 idle people :)12:33
delirepaccer: may be. ask your question and be prepared to wait for an hour..12:33
juanejcrimsun: im having a problem with the default language...12:33
juanejive been messing with /etc/environment12:33
paccerdelire: yep - i am :)12:33
delirepaccer: you think that's bad. try #mutt ;)12:34
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: just curious - in what way am I slowly changing the way you view things?12:34
juanejhow do i fix that? i want the default english12:34
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vladuz976thoreauputic: all commented out there12:34
EasterSunshinethoreauputic: its about how i use my time. i wanna spend more of my time helping others12:34
deltabCody: add together 1 for red, 2 for green, 4 for blue; use 9 for the default; setaf for foreground, setab for background12:34
kemikEasterSunshine:  so stay here and use the forums ;)12:35
delirepaccer: some of those people had close to 6 months of uptime. i asked a question and it took *2 days*to be answered. around 15 lines had been posted in this entire period ;)12:35
paccerdelire: heh.. im getting kinda impatient... need to go to work in 5 hours.. and i need to sleep before i go to work :) - so my patience isnt as good as it should :/12:35
thoreauputicvladuz976: I suggest you read those files with attention and consult the man to see if there are options you can enable12:35
vladuz976thoreauputic: ok12:35
juanejcrimsun?12:35
kemikanyone here has experience with USB printers and cups ?12:35
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juaneji cant install it with gstreamer12:35
delirepaccer: well you can always look into it tomorrow. somehow, things became very messy. things may get worse if you rush..12:35
crimsunjuanej: I have no idea what you did to /etc/environment12:35
crimsunjuanej: did you remove 'amarok'?12:35
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: well, time is one thing I have a lot of so this seems like a useful way to use it :)12:35
juanejyep12:36
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juanejbut12:36
juanejthen i reload synaptic12:36
Chaotic_Realitypcharky, i think i just got it.  just pasted in the path to the samba share and it's adding them now.12:36
delirepaccer: everything is ultimately fixable where text files and permissions are concerned ;)12:36
juanejand when i try to install it again it doesnt let me choose gstreamer12:36
Snippycan someone help me please?12:36
Hoxzercan somebody help me to get samba not to ask passwords when I try to browse files with windows machine?12:36
Snippywhen I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..12:36
Snippy:(12:36
EasterSunshinethoreauputic: its a lot better than my friends who literally spend over ten hours a day playing world of warcraft12:36
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crimsunjuanej: what version does it install?12:36
thoreauputicvladuz976: seems odd though - I don't recall having to do anything special to get ssh working12:36
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juanej1.2.312:37
_SWAT_EasterSunshine, I even now a guy who stopped with his study for a few months just to play World Of Warcraft :-S12:37
pcharkySnippy: sorry, I can't help you.12:37
vladuz976thoreauputic: yes, last time i did that i dindn't have that trouble,12:37
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EasterSunshinei konw a guy who dropped college to play wow12:37
Snippytoo bad pcharky, but thanks for your answer12:37
juanejlet me see i think i got it12:37
pcharkySnippy: did you run the installer from a terminal?12:37
pcharkySnippy: I can try though.12:37
delireit's late. night all12:38
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kemikSnippy:  what's troubling you?12:38
EasterSunshinecya delire12:38
thoreauputicvladuz976: see if someone can nmap you to see if port 22 or whatever is listening - netstat might help you too12:38
Snippyyes I did12:38
Snippyit just doesnt load CS: Source12:38
vladuz976thoreauputic: what is nmap12:38
pcharkySnippy: any errors on the terminal output?12:38
thoreauputicvladuz976: a portscanning program12:38
SnippyI click on it on the list, and a new menu comes.. it's loading the local game content.. but it does nothing12:38
Snippyno errors12:38
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Snippyit just hangs then12:38
juanejhey crimsun how do i restore the default english for ubuntu?12:38
afaikheheheehhe http://data.4chan.org/b/src/1123451084917.jpg12:39
Snippy"hangs"12:39
afaikoh, no it's not spam btw12:39
afaikthose idiots in gentoo banned me for posting the image claiming it was spam :(12:39
pcharkySnippy: Then i really can't help you.12:39
vladuz976thoreauputic: just sucks that it is now working when i need it12:39
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Snippyokay.. thanks for trying tough12:40
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thoreauputicvladuz976: maybe try restarting it -  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart12:40
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Snippyanyone know if Photoshop CS2 runs in CrossOffice Pro (newest version) ?12:40
jasmuzSnippy: have you checked their page?12:41
thoreauputicpcharky: please, keep your queries in channel12:41
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thoreauputicpcharky: or at least ask first12:41
Snippywell, not entirely12:41
pcharkythomerz: sure, sorry.12:41
vladuz976thoreauputic: no nothing, "ssh username@ip" should do it right?12:41
thoreauputicvladuz976: should, yes12:42
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thoreauputicvladuz976: when you restarted ssh did you see an "OK" or something?12:42
jrattner1Anyone ever use bluetooth in linux12:43
vladuz976thoreauputic: yes it says ok in green on the right12:43
pcharkyjrattner1: yup12:43
thoreauputicvladuz976: OK well at least it's running12:43
_SWAT_vladuz976, read the man/help. It's "ssh -l <username> <ip>12:43
vladuz976thoreauputic: true12:43
Chaotic_Realitycrap. i just removed the menu bar for amarok and can't figure out how to readd it to try and adjust the output device it uses. heh12:43
jrattner1pcharky, using what program'12:43
vladuz976_SWAT_: that command does the same. alreadytried12:43
pcharkyjrattner1: depends on the application? I only used file-transfer with my mobile-phone.12:44
jrattner1im trying to connect my mobile phone to12:44
MartenHwhy are there often only old version avaliable in synaptic?12:44
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thoreauputicvladuz976: see if there is anything weird in /etc/default/ssh12:44
thoreauputiclike a line blocking outside connections12:45
pcharkyjrattner1: What do you want to do with the connection?12:45
jrattner1download ring tones12:45
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pcharkyjrattner1: check out obexftp, it's primitive, but effective.12:46
thoreauputicMartenH: because Ubuntu freezes every 6 months12:46
vladuz976thoreauputic: looks ok in there12:46
thoreauputicvladuz976: sorry, running out of ideas here...12:46
vladuz976thoreauputic: cool thanks anyways12:46
thoreauputic:)12:46
thoreauputicgood luck12:47
jrattner1cool12:47
Chaotic_Realityis there any other way to configure the sound system inside of amarok other than the engine area? the only thing listed there is aRts and it doesn't play my music.12:47
thoreauputicgotta go - see you all later :)12:47
jrattner1pcharky, what if i want to sync the calendar from my phone to my laptop12:47
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pcharkyjrattner1: I think evolution supports tahat, though i never tried.12:47
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jrattner1my phone uses mircrosoft mobile 200312:48
vladuz976anybody else here know much about ssh?12:48
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pfphey, do you know any video player that would support vobsubs? or a method to convert them into .srt...12:49
deltabmplayer does12:50
pfpoh, nice12:50
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pcharkyjrattner1: I'm afraid someone else will have to help you further, I'm off to bed.12:51
tonyhi12:51
Pegahi12:51
tonyanybody know mount the floppy12:51
Snippygpd, can I pm you please?12:51
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tony?12:51
som1er.. ubuntu thinks i have half of my ram12:51
tonywhere are you from?12:52
tonypega12:52
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som1wild guess, .fi = finland12:52
som1..12:52
crimsunsom1: and how much RAM do you have?12:52
som151212:52
frequencysom1: is your second RAM stick pushed firmly into the socket?12:52
Drauconq time12:52
som1i got one ram stick12:52
Pegatony, Finland. This nick has nothing to do with my real name, if that is what you think about.12:52
Snippygpd, can I pm you please?12:52
tonywhat is gpd?12:53
codecaineanyone know what command displays groups that a user belongs too?12:53
Snippya guy namend like that?12:53
tonyi don't andeestant12:53
pfpcodecaine: 'id username'12:53
crimsunsom1: free -m |grep '+'|awk '{ print $4 }'12:53
robotgeekcodecaine: groups12:53
codecainethx12:53
som1oh yeah i confused. never mind12:53
som1this freaks me out. im going to kill someone.12:53
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frequencywhat?12:54
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tonyi use ubuntu in may amd64 3200+ 1g ram12:54
ray_anybody know anyhting about xfce12:54
tonyand12:54
crimsunray_: what do you need?12:54
tonyi can't mount the floppy12:54
ray_crimsun, are there repos for 4.2.2?12:54
crimsunray_: in Breezy, yes.12:54
crimsunray_: they'll be built for hoary-backports automagically12:55
ray_crimsun, ummm what?....they are in backports?12:55
crimsunray_: you'll have to check. I don't use backports.12:55
arudoes installing fluxbox or enlightenment screw anything up like KDE does?12:55
arumenu wise, that is12:55
ray_ok12:56
crimsunaru: no, it's all orthogonal.12:56
tonyanybody known mount the floppy12:56
tonyplaese im from argentina12:56
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Chaotic_Realitywhat does that have to do with mounting your floppy?12:56
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arucrimsun: thanks12:57
frequencybecause Argentine floppy drives work differently :-P12:57
Chaotic_Realityheh12:57
Hoxzerhow can I know the username/password what I need to login linux machine shares?12:57
aruheh12:57
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tonyit say (mount: no se puede encontrar /mnt/floppy en /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab12:57
tony)12:57
flodinecrimsun is it hard to update libc 20 files12:57
frequencytony: look at /etc/fstab12:57
frequencybetter yet12:57
tonyand12:58
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frequencyshow me the results of grep fd0 /etc/fstab12:58
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tony/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  vfat    rw,user,noauto 0 0  0       012:58
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ifrMuchos firestarter problems. I cannot get it to respect policies I set. I told it to allow all incoming from my ssh server on my home network, and yet it persists in blocking them. I can get through if I turn firestarter off, but if it's on it blocks everything.12:58
duncanmhola12:58
frequencyahha12:58
skalpelis there anyway to tag my mp3 files so they appear uniformly in my music player?12:59
duncanmwhere can i get the latest gtkpod as a package?12:59
frequencythen try mount /media/floppy012:59
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tonyit say mount: /dev/fd0 no es un dispositivo de bloques vlido12:59
frequencyhmm..12:59
codecaineanyone using cisco vpn client?12:59
crimsunflodine: you shouldn't be upgrading 20 libc files anyway.01:00
frequencymay not actually have a vfat filesystem01:00
crimsunflodine: particularly not by HAND01:00
ifrAnyone on firestarter?01:00
tonyok how install it?01:00
flodinecrimsun im not01:00
frequencytony: does it work with other floppies?01:00
Madpilotifr: I run firestarter01:01
philipscodecaine: I have in the past01:01
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tonyno only one and dvd but dvd work ok it automatic mount when i start ubunut01:01
flodinecrimsun i want to install wmii but he said just compile it but wont it still need the newer file01:01
ifrMadpilot, thanks. I'm having policy troubles -I allow a IP and firestarter still blocks.01:01
ifrAny ideas?01:01
frequencyright01:01
codecainephilips, it seems to connect to my firewalls, but i don't see any routes that it has made?01:02
codecainedid yours show routes?01:02
frequencytry this, open /etc/fstab in your favorite text editor (as root) and replacing "vfat" with "autofs" on that line01:02
Madpilotifr: hmmm... I just scrolled up and saw your SSH Server post - sorry, I haven't had any trouble with Firestarter & don't run an ssh server01:02
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philipscodecaine: yes01:02
ifrRighto.01:02
crimsunflodine: huh? it requires what to compile?01:03
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philipscodecaine: I inserted the module, and ran the vpn control software and it worked fine after that01:03
tonyok and now?01:03
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frequencypruebalo otra vez01:03
tonysabes castellano?01:04
skalpelcan someone tell me how to tag all my music files at once so they show up uniformly in my music player?01:04
codecainephilips, which module?01:04
philipscodecaine: the kernle module01:04
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codecainephilips, vpnclient_init is all i startup in /etc/init.d01:04
frequencytony: un poquito..01:04
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tonyroot@pirri:/home/tony # mount /media/floppy01:05
tonymount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,01:05
tony       missing codepage or other error01:05
tony       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:05
tony       dmesg | tail  or so01:05
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frequencyit's /media/floppy0, not /media/floppy01:05
eriscoi am using wine, and i was wondering if you MUST install the windows program, or can you just copy the files into your fake windows partition?01:05
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eriscoI copied the files into the fake partition, and it doesn't work. I am thinking wine doesn't support it01:06
cafuego_erisco: you MUST install; normally applications place files all over the place.01:06
EasterSunshinetheres a lot of things in the registry you would have to take care of01:06
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tonyroot@pirri:/home/tony # mount /media/floppy001:06
tonymount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,01:06
tony       missing codepage or other error01:06
tony       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:06
tony       dmesg | tail  or so01:06
EasterSunshineerisco: when you install something on windows, more changes are made than just putting files into the install directory01:06
tonythe same01:07
frequencyhmmm01:07
cafuego_tony: Please do paste multi-lines into the channel.01:07
musashiskalpel try amarok, it has tag editor and lots more01:07
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cafuego_Eh01:07
duncanmhmm01:07
tonyok sorry01:07
tonyi don't know01:07
Chaotic_Realitycafuego, he did do that. :)01:07
cafuego_tony: That was supposed to day "don't" :-)01:07
duncanmso i installed the debian gtkpod on my hoary box01:07
kemikerisco:  it depends on the applications... but generally it's not enough to just copy the installed folder01:07
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duncanmand now i see: The following packages have unmet dependencies:01:08
duncanm  gtkpod: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed01:08
duncanm          Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.20) but 2.6.17-0ubuntu1 is to be installed01:08
duncanm  gtkpod-aac: Conflicts: gtkpod but 0.94.0-1 is to be installed01:08
kemiktony:  use the paste url in topic01:08
pfpbleh, mplayer seems to be as slow on the k7 as it was on the g3....01:08
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pfpahem, anyone know of a *sane* vid player with vosbsub support?01:08
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kemikduncanm:  dont paste in channel, use the pastebin in topic01:08
EasterSunshinetony: i think you can paste multilines in #flood01:08
kemik!pastebin01:08
ubotuwell, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood01:08
Chaotic_Realityyep01:08
_adminHi, can somebody please help me get unRar?01:08
Keeganwhen I type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it returns "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"01:08
Chaotic_Realitysudo apt-get install unrar01:08
Chaotic_Reality:o01:08
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ifrAnyone want to venture a guess as to why SSH would be coming on on port 33102?01:09
kemik_admin:  sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree01:09
Keegananybody got any suggestions?01:09
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tonywww.rpmseek.com here is the unrar01:09
kemikEdddie:  unrar-nonfree is what you're looking for01:09
Edddiekemik: thats the problem, it always tells me it's not there01:09
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EdddieI heard I have to uncomment/add some resps?01:10
kemikEdddie:  universe01:10
kemik!repositories01:10
ubotu[repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:10
Edddiethanks01:10
tonyand frecu01:10
Edddiewhere is it by the way kemik ?01:10
tonyand frequency what i do?01:10
pfpEdddie: there's rar in multiverse01:10
kemikEdddie:  where is what ?01:10
kemikEdddie:  follow the link ubotu posted01:11
Edddiethe file where the lines I need to uncomment01:11
Edddiekl01:11
frequencytony: do you use AIM?01:11
tonywhat is?01:11
Keeganwhen I type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it returns "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted" The folks at ndiswrapper are no help at all. Any suggestions?01:11
tonyi don't know01:11
frequencynevermind..01:11
EasterSunshinetony: aol instant messenger01:12
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Keeganu can use aol on gaim01:12
EasterSunshineits like one on one irc...if that helps01:12
tonyno i use gaim01:12
frequencyoh, same thing01:12
kemikgaim has AIM / MSN / ICQ support01:12
tonyok01:12
kemikgaim is not a protocol in itself..01:12
Keeganyea, but it accepts almost all protocols01:12
EasterSunshinegaim is a mutliprotocol instant messenging client01:12
EasterSunshineand its awesome at that01:13
kemikwell it lacks some features01:13
Keeganjoin /#ndiswrapper01:13
EasterSunshinei am coding an aim client atm01:13
kemikfiletransfers01:13
Hoxzersomebody here has got samba shares working from windows to linux?01:13
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juanejcrimsun: are u there?01:13
EasterSunshinegaim is not easily scriptable01:13
kemikEasterSunshine:  do you use Glade ?01:14
frequencytony: did you change that line in /etc/fstab?01:14
tonyyes01:14
crimsunjuanej: yes?01:14
frequencyokay, can you show me that one line?01:14
tonyand put thereautofs01:14
EasterSunshinekemik: nope, dunno what it is, but i assume a scriptable aim client?01:14
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tony/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  autofs    rw,user,noauto 001:15
juaneji installed01:15
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juanejwith the gstream01:15
tonysorry01:15
kemikEasterSunshine:  no, it's a frontend to GTK to create your GUI in01:15
juanejbut the song try to start01:15
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juanejand then it finishes01:15
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kemikEasterSunshine:  i assumed you were coding in C/C++, i guess you're not01:15
EasterSunshinekemik: i use gtk's c interface01:15
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crimsunjuanej: did you adjust the Engine preference in Amarok?01:16
juanejyep01:16
juanejoss01:16
juanejthen alsa01:16
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kemikEasterSunshine:  ok.. i've been having alot of trouble trying to get GTKMM and libglademm to work...01:16
Edddiekemik: I added the resperitory but it's not there01:16
juanejand esd01:16
kemikEdddie:  did you update?01:16
EasterSunshinekemik: sry, i've never used it i'm not the person to ask for help01:17
Edddieya01:17
tonyhow is the comand to send the mensage only you01:17
crimsunjuanej: you should set it to esdsink if you're using esd01:17
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juaneji did01:17
kemikEdddie:  it may be in backports...01:17
frequencytony: /msg frequency <message>01:17
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Edddiebackports?01:17
kemik!backports01:18
ubotumethinks backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted01:18
kemikadd that to your sources.lit01:18
kemiklist01:18
GeoffrianDoes anyone here use the Gnome PPP program???  I need some help getting it to run.01:18
kaffeendHey everyone... I was hoping someone might be able to help me out here. I'm trying to run games and so far have had 0% success even with the Linux games I've downloaded like Enemy Territory. I tried reinstalling Windows on my NTFS partition, but setup says it's detecting system hardware but leaves the screen blank indefinately. I don't know what to do here... Can anyone please help me?01:18
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poonjhey guys, how do I enable the use of universe packages?01:18
X7Cit's cs time!01:19
kemikEasterSunshine:  but you're coding the entire GUI, not using a tool to make the gui then parse  a xml file ?01:19
crimsun!addingrepositorieshowto01:19
ubotucrimsun: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:19
diegodo you know? where i coul downlaod good games?01:19
kemik!repositories01:19
ubotuI heard repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:19
HazukiUm...is there anything like Gentoo's make.conf in Ubuntu?01:19
crimsunHazuki: $package/debian/rules01:19
kemikpoonj:  follow that link01:19
EasterSunshinekemik: nope. thats a bit advanced for me01:19
GeoffrianNo one here can help me with GNOME PPP???01:19
poonjthanks kemik01:19
crimsunGeoffrian: that's a very broad topic (gnome ppp)01:20
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Keegancan anyone here help me with ndiswrapper?01:20
EasterSunshinekemik: i'm not using anything more than kate, gnu make, and gcc01:20
GeoffrianIts a program I downloaded from Ubuntu called GNOME PPP.  I can get online through my typical means but this can not detect my modem.01:20
eriscois there any way to get around not having the install file for a program?01:20
HazukiCrimsun: what's that, a package to install?01:20
SnippyI'm totally noob.. how can I run .deb files?01:20
eriscoi have the program files, is there any way i can go from there?01:21
crimsunHazuki: it's a package to compile. It doesn't make sense to speak of make.conf without compiling.01:21
Geoffriansudo dpkg -i <file>01:21
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enycsnip: they install using 'dpkg' but generlaly you dont want/ened to be detaling with individual debs ;-)01:21
Hazukiwell...I need to find make.conf first x_x To edit it01:21
enycsnip: deb is a "package" file01:21
kaffeendHey everyone... I was hoping someone might be able to help me out here. I'm trying to run games and so far have had 0% success even with the Linux games I've downloaded like Enemy Territory. I tried reinstalling Windows on my NTFS partition, but setup says it's detecting system hardware but leaves the screen blank indefinately. I don't know what to do here... Can anyone please help me?01:21
kemikEasterSunshine:  i see.. well i've been having trouble with glade so i'm thinking i'll just hardcode the gui for now and see if i'll bother with the glade-method ;)01:21
enycsnip: generally, isntall stuff using apt-get or synamtic  to get debs, dont move them about manually01:21
Snippyyeah I know01:22
ray_kaffeend, what was the error when you tried enemy-territory?01:22
SnippyI downloaded a bittorrent client on the official bittorrent  page01:22
Snippynow I want to install it01:22
Snippyhow to ?01:22
EasterSunshinesry you guys are distracting me from schoolwork! lol...i'll bbl01:22
benkong2could someone tell me how to see what port samba is running on I did a ps aux |grep -E'(smbd|nmbd)' but did not get a port number01:22
kemikkaffeend:  if you install Windows after linux , grub will be overwritten and your in a lot of trouble (it is fixable though, but still messy)01:22
kaffeendray_ no error perse01:23
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kaffeendkemik - okay thanks01:23
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kemikbenkong2:  google will tell you, or perhaps netstat01:23
kaffeendray_ I can install it but can't run it01:23
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benkong2kemik; thanks01:23
kaffeendray_ it's to do with nvidia.glx I believe01:24
mosheis there an ubuntu transcode package anywhere in the wild?01:24
ray_kaffeend, did you install your video drivers01:24
Snippyanyone tested Maya 7 unlimited on linux?01:24
kaffeendray_ I am running a 64 bit system01:24
kaffeendray_ yup01:24
ray_kaffeend, what happens when you run glxgears01:24
enycmosh: what do you mean by 'transcode package' exactly?01:24
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glickbaidu rules!01:25
moshea .deb for hoary of transcode01:25
glickbaidu.com01:25
kaffeendglxgears... hmmm...01:25
glickchinese search engine01:25
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ray_kaffeend, from term01:25
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kaffeendray_ nice little applet with pretty gears moving :)01:25
cafuego_Just run 'nvidia-glx-config' to enable it in xorg.conf01:26
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ray_kaffeend, you might not have it set right in x01:26
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cafuego_Note that glxgears is missing in breezy01:26
dazjorzhello again01:26
kaffeendray_ there's a known bug with nvidia.glx01:27
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ray_kaffeend, yeah but others with nvidia play ET01:27
mosheis ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net anything reliable?01:27
benkong2what package is nmap in?01:27
kaffeendbut are they on 64 bit systems ray_?01:28
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cafuego_benkong2: nmap01:28
ray_kaffeend, yeah good point01:28
kaffeendanyway the bug report is here https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564601:28
benkong2cafuego; thanks sorry I looked and its in synaptic..01:28
cafuego_I expect you'd need to run ET in a 32bit chroot.01:28
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kaffeendnot my bug report, but I have exactly the same problem01:29
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Snippyhey cafuego01:29
Snippyhow are you ?01:29
glicki wish baidu had english translations01:29
kaffeendray_ I believe even the ATI people using 64bit have this problem too :(01:29
ray_kaffeend, that sucks....i love enemy-territory01:30
kaffeendcafuego_ sorry I didn't even realize you were talking to me there :s01:30
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kaffeendray_ damn... I wanna play TrueCombat Elite01:31
logical_markhey guys. is it easy to switch from gnome to KDE on ubuntu?01:31
Chaotic_Realityyes01:31
ray_kaffeend, is that free?01:31
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Chaotic_Realitysudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop01:31
kaffeendyes logical_mark01:31
kaffeendray_ sure is01:31
cafuego_logical_mark: Yes. install "kubuntu-dekstop", logout, choose KDE on login.01:31
ray_kaffeend, where do i get it!!!!!!!!!!!!01:31
kaffeendray_ and it looks fantastic too01:31
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kaffeend1 sec01:31
logical_markcafuego, I shouldnt install KDE from SPM?01:32
Scytheneed some help, windows help, but i cant seem to find anyone with some knowlege01:32
samuim thinking about reformatting my laptops HD and putting ubuntu on that one too01:32
samubut i have trouble leaving itunes01:32
hubsidoes someone know a good tv program besides xawv01:32
samucan you access the itunes podcasts from some ubuntu program?01:32
cafuego_logical_mark: Whatever would give you that idea?01:32
kaffeendsomeone was helping me with this yesterday but they managed to get it working and I haven't heard from them since!01:32
Scythecan you run itunes from xine?01:32
logical_markcafuego, I am new to linux and ubuntu so I take it I am WAY off01:33
logical_markthanks for the help01:33
kaffeendray_ here you go bud http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php?x=d01:33
cafuego_logical_mark: Start Synaptic, find kubuntu-desktop; right clikc to mark for install, click Apply.01:33
logical_markyeah yeah I am01:33
ray_kaffeend, thanks01:33
kaffeendray_ np01:33
logical_markcafuego_, so is there a special version of kde for ubuntu? Is that why I am not finding KDE with Synaptic?01:34
kaffeendray_ I don't even want to play ET... I just need it to play TC Elite :(01:34
cafuego_logical_mark: Did you enable "universe" and "multiverse" repositories?01:34
ray_kaffeend, the graphics look great01:35
crimsunlogical_mark: kubuntu-desktop01:35
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ray_kaffeend, i have ET installed so is there anything special i have to do?01:35
kaffeendray_ I know... very realistic01:35
juanejcrimsun: it didnt work01:35
kaffeendray_ no I don't think so mate01:35
juaneji try with any song01:36
Snippyanyone tested Maya 7 unlimited on linux?01:36
Snippyanyone tested Maya 7 unlimited on linux?01:36
Snippysorry01:36
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juanej"some urls were not suitable for the playlist"01:36
kaffeendray_ maybe just install it in the same dir as ET?01:36
BlueWeaselcrimsun: would using ubuntu-desktop basically install gnome w/o the 3rd party applications?01:36
Keeganwhat is the path to the ubuntu equivalent of my documents?01:36
ray_kaffeend, ok01:36
crimsunjuanej: does it play any wav files in /usr/share/sounds/ ?01:36
tiglionabbitI want to use grub instead of lilo.  When I say "grub-install" it says "/dev/mapper/spiny-ubuntu does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.".  Then when I reboot it still uses lilo.  What should I do?01:36
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ids:p01:36
crimsunBlueWeasel: it installs what Ubuntu installs.01:36
logical_markcafuego_, yeah I have enabled them01:36
tiglionabbitmy computer's name is spiny, btw01:37
juanejletme see01:37
cafuego_logical_mark: kubuntu-desktop is is, then. That's just a meta-package which pulls in all additional kde crap.01:37
tiglionabbit!info kubuntu-desktop01:37
ubotukubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB01:37
idsIs there any way to do a floppy (following onto downloading from ftp server) of ubuntu? I have an old laptop without a CD rom drive?01:37
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juanejcrimsun: yes01:38
tiglionabbitcan someone help me?01:38
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crimsunjuanej: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?01:38
EasterSunshinehow long a registered channel on this server expires, with no one ever having been in it, especailly not the owner?01:38
kaffeendokay, I have /home/me/Desktop/tcetest_0209_full.zip and I don't know what to do with it... Can someone help please?01:38
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crimsunEasterSunshine: ~60 days, but ask in #freenode01:39
EasterSunshinethx crimsun01:39
EasterSunshinesry, i'm new on this server01:39
Edddiehi, can someone give me the full URI line for multiverse?01:39
HoxzerLOL!01:40
HoxzerI got it working >_<01:40
HoxzerI must be good01:40
ifrWould anyone  happen to know why SSH would come in on port 32951 and 33102/33103?01:40
crimsunifr: that's natural.01:40
tiglionabbitEdddie: same as universe, just add the word "multiverse" to the end of the line01:40
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ifrcrimsun, yes? Because Firestarter hates it.01:40
crimsunifr: the connecting side normally uses ephemeral ports.01:40
Edddiety tiglionabbit01:41
tiglionabbitEdddie: you can make it the same line even01:41
ifrcrimsun, the client side?01:41
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ChurcH_of_Foamyanyone know a good bittorrent website?01:41
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crimsunifr: correct, the client side.01:41
logical_markdoes anyone know what port ubuntu remote desktop uses so I can forward it on my router01:41
ifrokay, I wonder why firestarter is acting as if it's unheard of.01:41
logical_markChurcH_of_Foamy, I use torrentreactor.net01:42
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juanejcrimsun: i installed it but still without working01:42
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logical_markanyone at all know how to setup the remote desktop for access FROM the internet?01:43
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crimsunjuanej: what are you trying to play?01:44
juanejmp3s01:44
juanejon xmms they work01:44
ZalborHello, does anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using the live edition.01:44
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ZalborI need to have "wait for dial tone" disabled01:45
tiglionabbitjuanej: xmms has special handling for mp3s.  Install gstreamer0.8-mad and libmad and your other players will understand them01:45
tiglionabbit!info libmad01:45
tiglionabbitoops, that's not the name of it01:45
tiglionabbitit's in the wiki somewhere though, under restricted01:46
avanspronsen!mp301:46
ubotuwell, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:46
tiglionabbit!restricted01:46
ubotuI heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:46
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juanejthx01:46
juanejit works now01:48
juanejthank u crimsun  and tiglionabbit01:48
tiglionabbityou're welcome01:48
ChurcH_of_Foamywww.illwillpress.com/cartoons01:49
ChurcH_of_Foamysorry have to plug it ^_^01:49
gpdChurcH_of_Foamy: 40401:50
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ZalborDoes anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.01:50
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admanhello, how do you install downloaded apps01:51
gpdadman: extension?01:51
SudoPusI am trying to compile libdvdcss and it says it can't find a valid c compile in the path... how do I set gcc into my path permanently?01:51
admangpd: bin01:52
MrThouWhile trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?01:52
HrdwrBoBSudoPus: don't compile it01:52
gpdadman: java?01:52
admanyes01:52
gpd!java01:52
SudoPusHrdwrBob: Better suggestion then?01:52
gpdubotu: tell adman about java01:52
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HrdwrBoBSudoPus: it's packaged in hoary-extras I believe01:53
gpdHrdwrBoB: that one isn't quite the latest iirc - the newer one worked better 4 me01:53
HrdwrBoBgpd: worked better?01:54
HrdwrBoBhow 'better'?01:54
SudoPusHrdwrBoB: Ok...so I am assuming that hoary-extras isn't in the default install of ubunut/kubuntu?01:54
gpdHrdwrBoB: didn't crash!01:54
HrdwrBoBgpd: if you're referring to mplayer01:54
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HrdwrBoBthat was a problem with mplayer01:54
HrdwrBoBand AC3 support01:54
youneshello01:54
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gpdHrdwrBoB: no... any player - totem, xine, vlc,01:54
ZalborDoes anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.01:54
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HrdwrBoBgpd: hm ok01:55
gpdHrdwrBoB: 1.2.9 seems much more stable (on my system at least)01:55
gpdhttp://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/01:55
ChurcH_of_Foamyis there something wrong with bittorrent?01:55
ChurcH_of_Foamyi keep getting error 11101:55
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_Foamy: er could you be a bit more specific01:55
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ChurcH_of_Foamyi keep getting a "urlopen error (111,connection refused)01:56
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Hoxzerhow do I allow samba server user to edit files in the server?01:56
kaffeendI've unzipped the folder for ct:elite and not sure what to do now - can anyone help me please?01:56
benplaut!hello01:56
ubotubenplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:56
gpdChurcH_of_Foamy: that is a problem with the .torrent...01:56
ChurcH_of_Foamyok01:56
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_Foamy: the connection refused message means that the connection was refused.01:57
SudoPusHrdwrBoB: Thanks got the link to the .deb file...01:57
HrdwrBoBSudoPus: cool01:57
cafuego_ChurcH_of_Foamy: Connections are normally refuses by kernels when nothing listens on said port or the firewall sends a REJECT01:57
gpdhttp://www.frankscorner.org/ <-- good pages for wine01:57
ChurcH_of_Foamyahh there we go ^_^01:58
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tony i can't moun the floppy01:59
tonyi need help01:59
ChurcH_of_Foamyyou know tony i have the same problem >.<02:00
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ChurcH_of_Foamythat's when i decided that floppys where outdated and archaic02:00
benplautmine works :P02:00
ChurcH_of_Foamyand removed mine02:00
benplaut!ops02:00
ChurcH_of_Foamylol02:00
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!02:00
ZalborDoes anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.02:01
SudoPusHrdweBoB: How do I go about finding out the path to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to add hoary-extras?02:01
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AmaranthYes?02:01
SudoPusSorry bout that HrdwrBob02:01
benplautDVSoftware, above02:01
benplautAmaranth^^02:01
DVSoftwareoops02:01
HrdwrBoBhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories02:01
DVSoftwarethat was message in serbian02:02
SudoPusHrdwrBoB: Kewl..thanks02:02
benplautwoops02:02
DVSoftwarewanted to display it on another server02:02
DVSoftwaresry02:02
benplautsorry... looked like some warez message...02:02
Amaranthbenplaut: Next time please ask him to use English, then call me if he doesn't listen. :)02:02
benplautk, sorry02:02
gpdtony: try mount /media/floppy02:02
benplautman, you guys are fast :P02:03
kaffeendcan anyone please tell me how to install a program I have downloaded to the desktop please?02:03
benplautkaffeend: a program not in the repos?02:03
DVSoftwarei said that i'm going to put some files to download list and go to sleep02:03
Amaranthbenplaut: !ops makes my computer beep at me02:03
ChurcH_of_Foamyi had a dream last night that gates was using Linux >.< and an ipod O_o02:03
benplautah02:03
kaffeendbenplaut that's right02:03
Snippyhow can I run .rpm files under ubuntu ?02:03
AmaranthSnippy: alien02:03
kaffeendbenplaut it's a game02:03
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benplautkaffeend: is it a deb?02:03
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AmaranthSnippy: sudo alien foo.rpm02:03
AmaranthSnippy: and it makes a .deb02:03
DVSoftwaregood nite ppl02:04
kaffeendbenplaut it's a bunch of files02:04
SnippyAmarants, is this possible with EVERY .rpm ?02:04
ZalborDoes anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.02:04
benplautkaffeend: to be compiled?02:04
SnippyAmaranth, is this possible with EVERY .rpm ?02:04
benplautSnippy: not all02:04
Snippyhm02:04
kaffeendbenplaut there's no .deb file that I can see,02:04
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AmaranthSnippy: I would not try it unless you can't get the program any other way.02:04
benplautkaffeend: what was it before you extracted it?02:05
kaffeendbenplaut a .zip02:05
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AmaranthSnippy: It's always better to get a deb and almost always better to compile from source and use checkinstall to make a deb if one isn't available.02:05
SnippyAmaranth, I cant get it as another package.. :(02:05
avanspronsenSnippy: it doesn't guarantee you will have the right dependencies02:05
kaffeendbenplaut I haven't extracted it yet02:05
benplautkaffeend: can you give me a link? that's kinda weirf02:05
benplaut*weird02:05
kaffeendbenplaut  /home/me/Desktop/tcetest_0209_full.zip02:06
benplautno...02:06
benplautoh02:06
benplauttcetest02:06
Snippyhm well, is there a possibility to install RPM Packet Manager ?02:07
kaffeendbenplaut yep02:07
benplautSnippy: not really02:07
Snippywhy not?02:07
gpdSnippy: apt-get deals with the .deb once you generate it with alien02:07
AmaranthSnippy: because the rpm database and the dpkg database won't share data02:07
AmaranthSnippy: so it'd be more than worthless02:08
SnippyI see..02:08
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deltabZalbor: something to do with /etc/chatscripts and /etc/ppp/peers, I think02:08
AmaranthSnippy: What are you trying to install?02:08
cafuego_Snippy: yes, but don't use that to install RPMs if you want to keep a working system.02:08
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tony i can't moun the floppy02:08
tonyi need help02:08
benplautkaffeend: it's kinda weird, but there are instructions at02:09
benplauthttp://webpages.charter.net/cirithungol/tcetest/elite_install-guide.html02:09
Zalbordeltab: I tried that, I added ATX3 but it didn't work. And when I checked the file later, ATX3 had changed to ATX3L202:09
gpdtony: did you try my suggestion02:09
shinshiDoes anyone have any experience with setting up a touchpad?02:09
SnippyAmaranth, I dont want to tell what I'm installing02:09
tonyyes02:09
tonybut02:09
benplautshinshi: what kind of laptop?02:09
kaffeendbenplaut thanks02:09
Facocrimsun: Thank you very much for your help, now is working02:09
AmaranthSnippy: ok, you're doing something illegal :P02:09
benplaut'welcome :)02:09
tonydon't work02:09
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shinshibenplaut: Acer Ferrari 400502:09
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benplauthmm02:09
shinshihaha02:09
SnippyAmaranth, ooh dude >_<02:09
SnippySHHHHHT!02:09
AmaranthSnippy: sudo alien foo.rpm will make you a .deb which you can install with sudo dpkg -i foo.deb02:10
gpdtony: error message?  what format disk?  other disks work...?02:10
logical_markhey guys, when I am apt-get'n I am always getting this warning which I would like to know how to turn off - sudo apt-get install w32codecs02:10
logical_markok not that02:10
benplautshinshi: quite frankly, i have no idea :P02:10
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ray_kaffeend, i still like the normal ET better02:10
AmaranthSnippy: next time just get cedega in deb form :P02:10
logical_markInstall these packages without verification [y/N] ? y02:10
SnippyI have cedega 4.4 in deb form and point2play02:10
Snippy:P02:10
logical_markhow do I turn that off?02:10
tony       missing codepage or other error02:10
tony       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:10
tony       dmesg | tail  or so02:10
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Snippycan I query you Amaranth ?02:10
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shinshibenplaut: well i'm gonna ask a really newbie question, but how do change the init order of modules during boot, e.g. usb before ps2 stuff yada yada02:11
AmaranthSnippy: no02:11
morbidihello02:11
benplautlogical_mark: i dont think you can02:11
tonyhow can invite you a private chat02:11
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SnippyAmaranth, ok02:11
logical_markbenplaut, thanks anyway02:11
gpdtony: tony sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy02:11
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benplautubotu tell shinshi about bum02:11
AmaranthSnippy: If you want to steal something you're going to have to figure out the details on your own. :P02:11
benplautwell...02:11
SudoPusI am trying to encode a dvd to avi..I created a new DVD project file but it offers only a ghosted encode button, are there any other libs I need to install?02:11
morbidiI just installed my ubuntu and my mouse doesn't work, it's a logitech cordless mouse, in the livecd it worked thought02:11
benplautshinshi: a sec... i'll find you a link to Boot-UP Manager02:11
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SnippyAmaranth, I'm not stealing >_>02:11
morbidiI've got hoary 5.0402:11
shinshibenplaut: thank :)02:11
shinshier02:11
morbidino updates02:11
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shinshithanks :)02:11
morbidianyone ?02:12
eriscoi am trying to run a setup.exe with wine, but it complains another setup is already running. However there isn't as far as i can see. What is happening?02:12
keithanyone in here running xcfe4 on ubunutu that can asnwer a question for me?02:12
eriscodoes wine just not support the program?02:12
benplautshinshi: if anything can do it, this can:02:12
benplauthttp://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html02:12
tonymount: /dev/fd0 no es un dispositivo de bloques vlido02:12
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benplautkeith: i used to... what's your question?02:12
morbiditony: tu lo tengues floppy ?02:12
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h08817i have a little problem here02:13
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benplautSnippy: then what are ou doing?!02:13
keithbenplaut, thanks. alright- i run a laptop, so i need to have the volume plugin and battery percentage plugin on the bar02:13
tonytengues?02:13
kaffeendbenplaut Um, still having trouble here - was advised to open et-linux-2.55.x86.run but it doesn't exist :s02:13
keithbut it doesnt save it like that- how do i have it always start up with it on the menu bar?02:13
morbiditony: yo lo esto in portugal02:13
h08817any1 good with helping me with an install problem02:13
morbidiyo soi portugues02:13
tonyha02:13
tonyok02:13
shinshibenplaut: cool, thanks :)02:13
Snippybenplaut, I cant tell02:13
morbidinao falo castelhano02:13
tonycomo hace para invitar02:14
morbidihablo02:14
benplautkaffeend: look a bit farther down the page for "TC:Test"02:14
Chaotic_Realityi have a big problem. :) for some reason my filesystem went to read only, i rebooted and now I can't even boot up, it says grub,error code 17. anyone know what this means? should i just reinstall?02:14
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kaffeendbenplaut ok02:14
tonychat privado02:14
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morbidiChaotic_Reality: check gentoo grub errors :)02:14
shinshibenplaut: does it have anything to do with insmod/rmmod and all that?02:14
benplautkeith: well... i dunno. always works on my PDA, but that's using a system tray applet to do the work02:14
h08817when i tried to install ubuntu i got a weird error02:14
benplautshinshi: i dunno... probably only the stuff in /etc/init.d02:15
h08817and the setup wouldn't continue02:15
benplautwhat error?02:15
shinshiah ok, thx02:15
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tony i can't moun the floppy02:15
tonyi need help02:15
brokeboyjust messed up my sourse.list. can anyone help out a newbie and give me a good script to use?02:15
keithhmm odd benplaut , thanks though.02:16
benplauth08817: ....and the error is...02:16
h08817benplaut, ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.0: unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help02:16
benplautkeith: 'welcome02:16
Chaotic_Realitymorbidi, doesn't help much. i just get put back at a black screen with the error. no ability to modify or look at anything02:16
gpdtony: if you translate your error i might be able to help02:16
gpdtony: i got the same error as you with my first command and then my second one it mounted ok02:16
benplauth08817: right before you press enter to begin the setup, press F1 and look for the option that says no-acpi02:16
morbidiChaotic_Reality: does your hd failed ?02:17
morbidican you mount with a live cd your hd ?02:17
h08817benplaut, what is that for?02:17
h08817and what will it do02:17
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Chaotic_Realitywell i can boot off a cd and go through the install if i need to. i'd much rather repair it if i'm able to, but i have no idea how to go about that02:17
tonymount: /dev/fd0 is not a dipositive to the valid block02:17
benplauth08817: well... the error says there's a ACPI error, so you run the setup without acpi :P  i dunno exactly what it does02:17
h08817so what do i type then02:18
gpdtony: are you sure it is formatted?02:18
benplautlook in the F1 menu02:18
h08817i hit f1 and then there are instructions so i should just follow them02:18
gpdtony: try installing mtools...02:18
benplautyup02:18
h08817ok thanks i'll go see what happens02:18
benplautg'luck :)02:19
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kaffeendbenplaut I'm lost02:19
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gpdanyone know how to stop screen blanking (not screensaver) in gnome...02:20
tonyok02:20
tonyand now02:20
ray_gpd, power save options02:21
gpdgpd: it is display power management you fool02:21
musashiturn off display power management02:21
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kaffeendbenplaut I've been trying to get at least 1 game to run since I installed Ubuntu - so far something has gone wrong with EVERY attempt02:21
ray_xfce!!!!!!!!!!!!02:21
deltabgpd: Screensaver Preferences > Advanced > Display Power Management02:21
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gpdthanks all... that was a bit stupid of me :)02:21
benplautkaffeend: i can't truthfully say i've had better luck...02:21
keithwhat about xfce ray_?02:21
monsterrorHey everyone02:21
reikinewbie here... first install of this distro... I chose "server" at install... should I have just chosen "default". I can't find doc on what the difference is. Thanks02:21
ray_keith, i like it02:22
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keithme too02:22
keithi use it on my laptop linux system (this one here)02:22
keithi just wish it could pck up my volume buttons02:22
benplautit's good for PDA, but there are some things i hate for desktop...02:22
monsterrorAnyone know a good wireless config program? I've heard of one called kwifi or something, but I cant find the package when I do apt-get02:22
ray_keith, can i enable system sounds?02:22
tony i can't moun the floppy02:22
tonyi need help02:22
benplautubotu tell monsterror about gtkwifi02:22
benplautdamn you, ubotu02:23
juanejis alsa the best choise or output? cause mine sounds like sit02:23
keithwhat do you mean ray_ ?02:23
kaffeendbenplaut maybe it's my hardware - having an Amiga platform might help...02:23
gpdtony: wtf!? did you install mtools?02:23
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benplautmonsterror: just a sec, i'll gte you a link02:23
tonyyes02:23
gpdtony: mdir a:02:23
ray_keith, like hmmmm sounds like in gnome and kde.....like on startup?02:23
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keithnever really tried it.02:23
tonyCan't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address02:23
tonyCannot initialize 'A:'02:23
gpdsounds like your floppy is not plugged in :)02:24
tonyok02:24
benplautmonsterror: try this:02:24
benplauthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4914802:24
gpdtony: dmesg | grep fd002:24
tonyans02:24
tonyand02:24
tonywhat i do?02:24
benplautkaffeend: Amiga?!02:25
monsterrorThanks Benplaut02:25
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gpdtony: dmesg | grep fd002:25
tonyFloppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M02:25
tonyend_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 002:25
kaffeendbenplaut yeah, my AMD64 bit super-machine is way too over the top for Linux methinks ;)02:25
gpdtony: what is on this floppy?02:25
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benplautkaffeend: try SuSE... it's much better for games02:26
tonyamd6402:26
thwackso far so good02:26
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gpdtony: amd64 is a chip... what is on the floppy? and use gpd: prefix...02:26
vladuz976can anybody tell me what i need to install to install stuff from cvs?02:26
Chromance_Is Debian much better then Ubuntu?02:26
kaffeendbenplaut I'm not installing another distro - the next install will be windows xp - I'm sure it's better than SUSE for games02:26
tonygpd amd6402:27
benplautvladuz: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"02:27
hubsiWARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support.   WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") <- what addr does it mean?02:27
benplautkaffeend: true... true...02:27
gpdtony: are you taking the piss?02:27
studenthaiiiiiiiii02:27
thwackreal fast, anyone have an ubuntu "quick start" link for things like, java, flash player, mp3, divx, ntfs etc.?02:27
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benplauthi02:27
juanejwhy there is no azureus on synaptic anymore?02:28
benplautubotu tell thwak about ubuntuguide02:28
studentwhat haveen02:28
h08817ubuntuguide02:28
kaffeendgpd maybe Tony has "Ubuntu 5.04 amd64" on the disk?02:28
benplautyes, you seem like a student...02:28
h08817ubuntu guide02:28
vladuz976benplaut: aclocal: configure.in: 17: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library02:28
h08817it is ok02:28
vladuz976benplaut:  i got build essentials02:28
gpdkaffeend: on a floppy!02:28
vladuz976vladuz976: but this is what i am getting when i try autogen.sh02:29
kaffeendgdp oops - missed that bit02:29
benplautvladuz967: i'm no expert on it... if it works, good. if it fails, then i just forget about it02:29
Drauconquit02:29
Dr_FateThe latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:  2.6.12.4 2005-08-05 21:11 UTC 02:29
Dr_FateWhen will we see this lernel?02:29
kaffeendgdp maybe someone's invented a super-floppy?02:29
hubsiin breezy02:29
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benplautkaffeend: that's a ZIP disk :P02:29
kaffeendbenplaut or a flash-floppy02:30
h08817what is a good p2p program for linux?02:30
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benplauth0: limewire02:30
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musashicalled a ls120=p02:30
h08817how do i install limewire on linux?02:30
kaffeendbenplaut I can't even work out how to install limewire :s02:30
monsterrorDoes anyone know the command line to get into Network settings?02:30
Snippyalien'ing the rpm now02:30
Snippygg02:30
deltabh08817: p2p software to do what?02:30
Snippyit loads and loads.. its a 200 mb rpm <.<02:31
h08817to download stuff02:31
ray_kaffeend, limewire......do you have java02:31
benplautkaffeend: instructions at ubuntuguide02:31
h08817ok thanks02:31
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deltabwhat's a good client program for linux?02:31
kaffeendbenplaut I have /home/me/Desktop/tcetest_0209_full.zip02:31
tony i can't moun the floppy02:31
Dr_Fateanyone here using the 2.6.11-k7?02:31
tonyi need help02:31
benplautmonsterror: "gksudo gnome-network-settings" maybe02:31
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joanbufffffffffffff :S02:32
kaffeendray_ yes I do - how'd you go with TCElite?02:32
joansokorro xD02:32
benplautkaffeend... and the is supposed to meen...02:32
tony i can't moun the floppy02:32
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tonyi need help02:32
ray_kaffeend, i didnt like it as much as regular ET02:32
benplauttony: we heard you already!02:32
eriscohello, i am trying to run a setup with wine, but it complains another setup is already running. But there doesn't appear to be another one running.... what is wrong?02:32
eriscoi can elaborate more if needed02:32
benplauttony: stop being reduntent02:32
kaffeendbenplaut sorry I meant /home/me/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm02:32
monsterrorThat didn't work, Ben02:32
benplautmonsterror: i dunno...02:33
kaffeendray_ well I don't like it as much as watching paint dry right now02:33
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monsterrorSo no one knows the command line to get into the network settings?02:33
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eriscoifconfig02:33
benplautmonsterror: found it... "network-admin"02:33
ray_kaffeend, if you want to play those games bad enough you might have to change back to winblows02:33
crimsunor ip a02:33
monsterrorThat just tells me my IP02:33
eriscomonsterror, ifconfig should work no?02:34
monsterrorThanks ben02:34
kaffeendray_ okay02:34
eriscooh i c02:34
benplautkaffeend: "sudo alien -i /home/me/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm"02:34
tony i can't mount the floppy02:34
monsterrornetwork-admin was it, Thanks Ben02:34
eriscoyou said settings, not to configure the settings02:34
benplautand then dpkg -i the .deb it makes02:34
tonyi need help02:34
benplauttony: shut up02:34
kaffeendbut I'd like to keep Ubuntu to learn the command line - can't seem to reinstall windows now :(02:34
Amaranthbenplaut: ...02:34
f_newtonthat doesnt help you set up cards...that only lets you see cards that were dectected02:34
benplautsorry...02:34
f_newtonthats kind of a weak spot in ubuntu02:35
benplautit's getting on my nerves...02:35
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benplauti'm in a bad mood today... i shouldn't be online...02:35
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shinshihey benplaut02:35
f_newtontony a modern linux kernel should automount your floppy ... what seems to be the trouble?02:35
cafuego_beagle has indexed 46,000 emails02:35
HrdwrBoBCanoeingkidd: lucky you02:35
shinshibenplaut: you may be in a bad mood, but you're really nice for helping out02:36
cafuego_and it's _fast_ :-)02:36
benplautshinshi: welcome...02:36
crimsunobviously men have monthly cycles, too. :P02:36
f_newtonuh monthly?02:36
brokeboyi erased my repositories in sorces.list! does anyone have a good back up they could let me copy?02:36
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f_newtonlol02:36
crimsunf_newton: sure, or maybe it's weekly or even daily.02:36
shinshicrimsun: i'd say daily02:36
shinshiheh02:36
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eriscobrokeboy, can't you just add them again?02:36
f_newtondaily I'd say knowing me02:36
f_newtonbut then I howl at the moon02:37
kaffeendbenplaut that command returns: File "/home/me/Desktop/LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.02:37
brokeboywhere can i go to get a new list. sorry im new at this. started today02:37
reikiis the boot-to-GUI the only real difference between choosing "server" or "default" at install time?02:37
CanoeingkiddHrdwrBoB: bad tab complete?02:37
HrdwrBoBCanoeingkidd: yes02:37
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eriscobrokeboy, there is a ubuntu guide02:37
vladuz976does anybody know what zlib.h is?02:38
eriscolet me get it for you02:38
HrdwrBoBCanoeingkidd: I didn't even realise until you said that :)02:38
ray_kaffeend, where did you download limewire02:38
Doonzubutunguide.org02:38
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Canoeingkiddlol02:38
HrdwrBoBvladuz976: you need the package zlib-dev02:38
benplautkaffeend: try "cd /home/me/Desktop" and then "alien -i LimewireLinux.rpm"02:38
kaffeendray_ can't remember02:38
f_newtonAmaranth, I could be wrong but I think tony is baiting people in here.02:38
kaffeendbenplaut ok02:38
ray_kaffeend, then thats never gonna work02:38
ray_kaffeend, open term and type sudo updatedb02:38
benplautray_: worked for me...02:38
flughvladuz976: do a 'dpkg -S zlib.h'02:39
Fizileany ebook readers for linux, to display a .txt with scrolling and font options?  not just a browser or a text editor02:39
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ray_benplaut, yeah because you knew your path02:39
keithhey guys- ive been using apt-get lately, but it keeps asking for a ubunutu cd i dont got.02:39
keithhow can i make it stop doing that?02:39
The_VoxFizile: I've never found one...if you find one, let me know :)02:39
keithor circumvent it?02:39
crimsunvladuz976: it's in zlib1g-dev if you want it. It's the development package for zlib.02:39
flughvladuz976: you'll see what packages contain similarly named files. then just apt-get install <the appropriate package>02:39
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vladuz976flugh: HrdwrBoB i got it but autogen.sh still complains02:39
FizileThe_Vox, alright i will02:39
The_Voxkeikoz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line that points to your cd02:39
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ray_keith, edit your sources.list02:40
HrdwrBoBvladuz976: rm .config.cache02:40
keiththanks vox.02:40
The_VoxFizile: I actually use a windows ebook reader under wine02:40
keithis it something i could do in synaptic too?02:40
Fizilewhich one?02:40
vladuz976HrdwrBoB: "configure: error: "Cannot find zlib.h. Make sure your CFLAGS environment variable contains"02:40
flughvladuz976: maybe your include path is bad. do a ./configure --help and see if you can add an --include-path='pathtozlib.h' to it02:40
logical_markhey guys what is a good linux itunes?02:40
Fizilei tried out ice book reader, but had some problems, as well as microsoft reader02:40
keithlogical- there isnt a good one02:40
keithit was closed down by apple not too long ago02:40
HrdwrBoBlogical_mark: rhythmbox is the gnome equivalent02:40
logical_markkeith, that sucks02:40
Fizilelogical_mark, rhythmbox is similiar02:40
keithlogical_mark,  i suggest you use rythm box to upload to your ipod02:40
HrdwrBoBlogical_mark: gtkpod is the ipod program02:40
ray_what is a nickname for william?02:41
keithlogical_mark, and i suggest you anti-drm your itunes music first02:41
kaffeendray_ done02:41
vladuz976flugh: you mean ./autogen.sh --helpf02:41
Fizileray_, bill02:41
W|ckedCongratulations! Fizile has said the Mystery Word! "bill" was the word.02:41
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tony i can't mount the floppy02:41
logical_markwell I dont have an Ipod02:41
keithlogical_mark: otherwise it wouldn't mark02:41
tonyi need help02:41
tony i can't mount the floppy02:41
keithwork*02:41
Snippytony02:41
ray_kaffeend, now do a ......loacte limewire02:41
Snippystop it02:41
logical_markI just have a crap load of music so and itunes organizes it so well and search is great02:41
benplauttony: we have heard you many times already02:41
flughvladuz976: ok, maybe so. i was assuming you were doing a 'configure/make/make install' thing :)02:41
The_VoxFizile: uhm...I'd need to check on monday, computer that has it installed isn't here at home :)02:41
f_newtonAmaranth, see he just keeps saying Icant mount the floppy I need help... when I asked to help him he just ignored me02:41
keithdid you buy it from itunes logical?02:41
Snippybenplaut, I followed the steps with alien etc.. installed the deb, where did it got installed? oO02:42
keithcause if you did and dont anti-drm , you cant play that music on linux.02:42
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kaffeendray_ you mean locate?02:42
ray_kaffeend, oops yeah02:42
benplautSnippy: umm... i dunno02:42
FizileThe_Vox, no ideas or, "it sounds like banana" esque tips heh02:42
logical_markkeith, no I didnt buy it from itunes02:42
benplaut.debs get installed "all over the place"02:42
tonyi only need help i this dificult02:42
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kaffeendray_ got 10 entries for it02:42
vladuz976flugh: this --help is hard to read. what do i need to look for?02:42
keithah you're fine then logical02:42
logical_markkeith, I just like the way itunes organizes my music and its interface is great02:42
keithhmmm then ryhthm box02:43
The_VoxFizile: it's been installed for over a year, so I don't really remember lol02:43
logical_markthanks02:43
tonyplease i need mount the floppy to my work02:43
keithand yeah i like it too02:43
benplauttony: it's quite possible... likely even... that nobody reading the chatroom knows an answer to your question02:43
flughvladuz976: i'd be looking for a way to specify an --include-path= argument02:43
keitha shame they dont port to linux02:43
Fizilelogical_mark, i would have to agree its good stuff02:43
flughdo a ./configure --help | less02:43
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flugh(the | is a 'pipe', above the backslash \02:43
f_newtontony choose places on your upper taskbar menu and choose floppy to mount your floppy drove02:43
ray_kaffeend, which one is the rpm?02:43
f_newtonuh drive02:43
admanubotu: i am getting errors02:43
ubotuadman: No idea02:43
kaffeendray_ none02:44
kaffeendray_ they're all under BitTorrent02:44
vladuz976flugh:  nothing like that in ther02:44
h08817sweet limewire is so fast compared to aMule02:44
kaffeendray_ which isn't actually on my desktop at all02:44
samuwhat does the rc stand for in most linux config files?02:44
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ray_kaffeend, you got it from bittorrent?02:44
kaffeendray_ no I've not even used BitTorrent02:45
tony       missing codepage or other error02:45
tony       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:45
tony       dmesg | tail  or so02:45
spanglesontoastI have a .tar.gz.gpg and I don't have a the gpg key but I remember the passphrase02:45
spanglesontoastcan I use it to unlock the files?02:45
benplautrename it to .tar.gz :P02:46
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jharrisonwhat repositories to use for mplayer?02:46
ray_kaffeend, give me an example of the limewire file name02:46
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admanubotu: this is generating errors>>fakeroot make - jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin02:46
ubotuadman: what are you talking about?02:46
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ray_kaffeend, you downloaded it from the limewire site?02:46
keithwhats the best dvd player for ubuntu guys?02:46
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benplautkeith: i like totem02:47
spanglesontoastit's encrypted you dummy.02:47
cafuego_adman: ubotu is a piec eof software, not a human02:47
ray_keikoz, mplayer02:47
kaffeendray_ in the week that I've been "using" Linux I have successfully installed nvidia drivers (which don't work) and listen to .mp3s.... That's it!02:47
benplautadman: u-BOT-u :P02:47
cafuego_though it IS smarter then some humans02:47
keithtotem is yet to work for me benplaut02:47
ray_kaffeend, so you didnt even download the limewire file?02:47
keithon either computer that i have totem on.02:47
kaffeend/home/me/Desktop/BitTorrent/usr/bin/limewire02:47
_SWAT_anyone know how I can start the ATI control panel from a terminal?02:47
benplautcafuego: oh, be quiet :P02:47
benplaut(the creator)02:47
jharrisonI like kplayer except looks like im going to have to compile it myself if there are no repositories that supply mplayer etc...02:47
kaffeendray_ I have downloaded it02:48
kaffeendray_ it is sitting on my desktop as file:///home/dan1/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm02:48
vladuz976can anybody help me please? i don't know why my ./autogen.sh complains about something that is installed02:48
kaffeendray_ and inside it is lots of files02:48
kaffeendray_ believe me I do have it02:48
cafuego_benplaut: what are you talking about?02:48
ray_kaffeend, well then you know where you downloaded it to dont you02:48
benplautkaffeend: "alien -i /home/dan1/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm"02:49
ray_YUP02:49
h08817r u guys talking about limewire setup?02:49
benplautcafuego: proud of your creation :P02:49
admanbenplaut: i am getting errors installing java using this command fakeroot make - jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin02:49
kaffeendbenplaut I tried that already and it didn't work02:49
cafuego_benplaut: Syntax error, what are you on about?02:49
ray_adman, what errors?02:49
cafuego_benplaut: No, ubotu is dumb, it's just that i've notice some humans are even dumber ;-)02:49
ray_kaffeend, move it to your home directory02:50
benplauttrue...02:50
admanbenplaut:  *** No rule to make target `jpkg'.  Stop.02:50
benplautadman: i never said i could help :P02:50
juanejwhy doesnt sudo apt-get install azureus work???02:50
benplauti'm a noob at compiling...02:50
cafuego_adman: make-jpkg, no spaces02:50
benplaut!azureus02:50
Amaranthjuanej: because azureus isn't in the repositories02:50
ubotubenplaut: Wish i knew02:50
kaffeendray_ I can't. It says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder"02:50
f_newtonyes cafuego we should all be blessed with your huge intellect02:51
ray_kaffeend, to your home directory?02:51
juanejbut in ubuntuguide.org says that i have to write that down02:51
benplautkaffeend: "sudo alien -i /home/dan1/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm"02:51
kaffeendray_ yes02:51
ray_kaffeend, what the hell did ya do02:51
juanejAmaranth: how do i install it then?02:51
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ray_kaffeend, are you logged in as root?02:51
benplautjuanej: look on ubuntuguide02:51
juanejalready02:51
kaffeendray_ no02:51
juanejqbeek: How to install P2P BitTorrent Client (Azureus)?02:52
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juanejQ How to install P2P BitTorrent Client (Azureus)?02:52
cafuego_benplaut: See, there's an example. Can't read and makes stupid assumptions.02:52
juanejsudo apt-get install azureus02:52
ray_kaffeend, open file manager and just drag it in there02:52
juanejit doesnt work02:52
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kaffeendray_ I was told never to install games/apps while logged in as root02:52
benplautubotu tell juanej about repos02:52
benplauti think it's in the repos?02:53
deltabjuanej: Let's fix that "Q:" thing. Are you using x-chat?02:53
kaffeendray_ that's what I just tried but it said I don't have permissions02:53
ray_kaffeend, well if you dont have permission to write to your own home folder it made me think you were root02:53
juanejyep02:53
rngrmattiAnyone have a problem with sound using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2?02:53
ray_what is you comp name? it will be the folder /home/*you*02:53
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ray_rngrmatti, compile the new alsa02:53
kaffeendbenplaut I did it and I got this back02:54
kaffeenddpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)02:54
kaffeenddpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)02:54
kaffeenddh_gencontrol: command returned error code 6528002:54
kaffeendmake: *** [binary-arch]  Error 102:54
kaffeendfind: LimeWire-free-4.9.11: No such file or directory02:54
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benplautooohhh02:54
rngrmattiok so just download the new ALSA driver from their site?02:54
benplautyou're on a 64bit02:54
deltabjuanej: go to Settings > Preferences... > Interface > Input box and turn off Automatic nick completion02:54
ray_kaffeend, what folders are in your home folder02:54
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benplautkaffeend: there's your problem :P02:54
tonyjajaajja02:54
kaffeendbenplaut_ I thought you knew - sorry02:54
benplautyes, tony?02:55
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kaffeendray_ lots02:55
cafuego_kaffeend: Do you have access to a 32bit box to convert that package?02:55
juanejok02:55
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levanderAnybody knows how to clean sharpie ink off a DVD?02:55
kaffeendcafuego_ no I don't02:55
tonyjajaja02:55
tonylite problem02:55
tonykakakkaa02:55
HrdwrBoBlevander: petrol02:55
shinshilevander: isopropyl alcohol02:55
benplautlevander: alcahol pad02:55
rngrmattijust use alcohol02:55
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juanejso how do i install azureus?02:55
HrdwrBoBlevander: though it will also eat the DVD02:55
ray_kaffeend, so its /home/*you* that you need to move that file to02:55
h08817i have a question about synaptic02:55
kaffeendmaybe I need to wait for a year or 202:55
cafuego_that's a waste of good vodka02:55
imprezahola02:55
benplautjuanej: i guess try the wiki...02:55
kaffeendray_ I'll try it02:55
juanejok02:56
deltabjuanej: you can still complete names by pressing the Tab key, but "Q:" etc. won't be changed automatically02:56
h08817i want to delete something and it give me 2 options remove and complete removal02:56
levanderit will eat the DVD even if the sharpie ink is not on the writable side?02:56
cafuego_kaffeend: Shall I volunteer?02:56
imprezahi02:56
ray_kaffeend, do you understand what i mean by *you*02:56
admancafuego: I am getting errors02:56
imprezagato02:56
kaffeendray_ yep02:56
kaffeendray_ it worked02:56
cafuego_adman: paste them to paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:56
ray_kaffeend, well yeah02:56
shinshilevander: take a cotton ball, put some isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol on it, rub from the inner hole to the outside02:56
kaffeendcafuego_ to "look after" my box?02:56
cafuego_kaffeend: No, to run alien and give you  a.deb02:57
tony/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  autofs    rw,user,noauto 002:57
tonyhelp02:57
ray_kaffeend, now do .......sudo alien /home/*you*/*nameoflimewirer02:57
levandershinshi: HrdwrBoB says it will eat the DVD, it will eat it even if the sharpie ink is not on the computer writable side of the DVD?  It's on the side that you're supposed to write on to label it.02:57
kaffeendcafuego_ I don't know what you're talking about, but I kinda want to get a game working more than anything... /sigh02:57
shinshii swear, this touchpad deal is driving me nuts02:58
kaffeendray_ ok 1 sec02:58
cafuego_kaffeend: Sorry, i thought you were having limewire issues02:58
shinshilevander: it will not eat the dvd02:58
kaffeendcafuego_ I'm having Linux issues!02:58
levanderokay, guys, thanks for the advice! I'm gonna try it with the cotton ball.02:58
cafuego_kaffeend: <heh>02:58
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tonyheeelllllpppp PLEASE02:59
cafuego_kaffeend: Mebbe going to 32bit would solve a lot of hassles.02:59
eriscoi am trying to run a setup.exe with wine, but it comlpains another setup.exe is already running, when one isn't02:59
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benplauttony: ...02:59
tonymy work depende of this02:59
tonywhat02:59
benplautwell, maybe nobody in here knows02:59
vladuz976can anybody tell me what CFLAGS deos02:59
tony?02:59
tonyyou say02:59
Xyc1I am having trouble looking up the strength of my wireless, is that because I am using ndiswrapper?02:59
benplautXyc1: yup03:00
tonythat nobody can mount a floppy?03:00
cafuego_vladuz976: is sets GCC parameters in an env variable. ./configure will pick 'em up and use 'em03:00
ray_brb FAMILY GUY IS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:00
benplauttony: well... yours might not work like ours do03:00
vladuz976cafuego_: i don't have an env like this one03:00
Xyc1benplaut: does that stop every wireless program, or just the gnome applet?03:00
cafuego_vladuz976: There isn't normally a need for it on ubuntu.03:00
benplauttony: if the commands people have already given you don't work, then...03:00
benplautXyc1: all of them...03:00
vladuz976cafuego_: i am trying to install from cvs an autogen.sh complains about it03:01
tonysabes03:01
kaffeendcafuego_ what? Windows is 32 bit and I can guarantee it works, but people keep telling me that Linux is worth all the hassels so I'm thinkin that I'm in for a real treat being that this is a big fucking hassel03:01
Xyc1benplaut: anything I can do about it?03:01
tonyque03:01
tonybenplaut03:01
tonymete un palo03:01
tonyen el culo03:01
tonyFORRO DEL ORTO03:01
cafuego_!es03:01
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:01
tonyCOSETE EL ORTO03:01
tonyCON HILO DE CHORIZO03:01
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Quest-Master.03:01
tonyCOMO MIERDA NO VAS A SABER MONTAR UN FLOPPY03:02
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Fiziletaco...03:02
kaffeendhey03:02
morbiditony: para de dizer asneiras caralho03:02
cafuego_kaffeend: Well, yes and no. A lot of end-user software is still 32bit and doesn't port particularly well. Examples being cedega, w32codecs and flash.03:02
morbidi:)03:02
benplautJackDaniels: not much you can do...03:02
cafuego_tony: Would you mind disabling capslock?03:02
tonymorbidi03:02
tonyporque mierdo03:02
Quest-Mastergood idea to set up a 32-bit chroot for 64-bit users.03:02
tonyno aprendes a hablar03:02
kaffeendcafuego_ yeah, all the things I came here for03:02
Fizilelol JackDaniels can do quite a bit03:02
tonybien espaol03:02
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cafuego_tony: And use #ubuntu-es if you need to curse at me in spanish.03:03
morbiditony: se hablares english e mejor03:03
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morbiditony: porque ja sei falar03:03
morbiditony: aprende a minha lingua se quiseres03:03
morbiditony: do03:03
tonymata03:03
tonygilll de cuarta03:03
cafuego_kaffeend: In time they _will_ be ported to 64bit...03:03
morbiditony: do you have fd0 has your floppy disk ?03:03
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kaffeendcafuego_ yes, in time... I'm waiting for a fix on this nvidia.glx bug now03:04
cafuego_tony: 'sudo apt-get install mtools; sudo modprobe floppy; sudo mdir a:'03:04
DrCertI have ubuntu installed on a vmware guest03:04
DrCerthow much memory should i give it to let it function properly03:04
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cafuego_DrCert: 256Mb or more.03:04
benplautDrCert: 256 should be enough03:04
tonyroot@pirri:/home/tony # sudo mdir a:03:04
cafuego_DrCert: ideally 512, if you can.03:04
tonyCan't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address03:04
tonyCannot initialize 'A:'03:04
kaffeendI have another game here that keeps giving me errors03:04
DrCertok i have 2 gigs of ram03:05
skalpelis there an app i can use to edit id tags for music files?03:05
JackDanielseh03:05
cafuego_tony: You need the floppy driver and appear to not have it loaded.03:05
morbiditony: you don't have floppy in that device03:05
morbidisearch another03:05
cafuego_DrCert: the more the merrier in that case03:05
vladuz976where can i find out more about cflags in ubuntu?03:05
cafuego_vladuz976: why do you need to know about CFLAGS?03:05
DrCertwhat kernel should i use? i386?03:05
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DrCertor just leave it alone03:05
cafuego_DrCert: what cpu do you have?03:05
web250drcert: what is ur cpu?03:05
kaffeenddoes anyone feel like giving me a hand installing Americas Army please?03:06
vladuz976cafuego_: because i am stuck, my installation wont'work because of it03:06
DrCertamd64 300003:06
cafuego_vladuz976: What installation?03:06
DrCerterr athlon 6403:06
cafuego_DrCert: -k703:06
vladuz976cafuego_: e17 from cvs03:06
DrCertinside vmware?03:06
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web250heheh03:06
cafuego_!tell vladuz976 -about compiling03:06
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cafuego_DrCert: Yep03:06
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vladuz976cafuego_: what was that03:07
cafuego_vladuz976: ubotu should have justs ent you some good advice03:07
web250anyone know a good linux prog thatll do what eprompter does in windows?03:07
kaffeend!crack03:07
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.03:07
kaffeendlol03:07
Fizile!weed03:08
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Fizile03:08
vladuz976cafuego_: how am i gonna learn my system then? if i always go take the easy route?03:08
Fizileyeah sure buddy03:08
Fizilei think you know EXACTLY what im talking about03:08
kaffeendubotu is smoking weed right now03:08
ubotukaffeend: I give up, what is it?03:08
cafuego_vladuz976: How is wrecking your system going to help you learn?03:08
reikiok... install failed when copying all other packages to hard drive. It's a 20gig drive. I need more? I've had fedora and debian on that machine and they didn't eat the drive. Can I skip copying everything else and how?03:08
cafuego_vladuz976: If e won compile, you undoubtedly need headers, not a gcc switch in cflags.03:09
vladuz976cafuego_: it is obviously not going to help me to wreck my system, but i am not trying to do that. i am trying to install something and pick up some knowledge on the way03:09
f_newtonfizile !DEA03:09
cafuego_vladuz976: Consider "use packages and not tarballs whenever you can" a more important lesson ;-)03:10
bluefoxicyanyone got an outline tool?03:10
bluefoxicysomething to design outlines in03:10
bluefoxicyrather than OOo03:10
cafuego_bluefoxicy: inkscape03:10
vladuz976cafuego_: yeah that is the same as in windows then, no?03:10
bluefoxicycafuego:  no not that kind of outline03:10
cafuego_bluefoxicy: What outline then?03:11
cafuego_bluefoxicy: dia?03:11
bluefoxicythat's for flowcharts.03:11
cafuego_define outline, then.03:11
cafuego_vladuz976: I throught there was an e17 deb somewhere... best bet is to find the associated source deb and customise that to build your own e17 deb.03:12
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benplauttry "smoon"'s repo03:12
kaffeendAmerica's Army is installing! omg03:12
vladuz976cafuego_: yeah there is actually a repo maintained by smoon, but i know i can do it that way, but that is not my point03:12
cafuego_vladuz976: Why are you insisting on learning the hard way?03:13
vladuz976cafuego_: do you know another way?03:13
cafuego_vladuz976: Yes.03:13
vladuz976cafuego_: what would that be?03:13
cafuego_vladuz976: The "maybe you are right and I should try to learn by not wrekcing things"03:13
benplautwhat?!03:14
cafuego_vladuz976: If you want to compile and break stuff, sure.. but don't ask for *assistance* in doing so.03:14
benplautthe only way to learn is by wrecking things!03:14
web250is procmeter3 the best option for displaying stats on desktop....or something else?03:14
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bluefoxicycafuego:  there was some app on gpe that did outlines, it had a lightbulb for an icon and stuff, could collapse sections. . .03:14
cafuego_'rm -rf /'is far quicker ;-)03:14
vladuz976cafuego_: you still haven't told me how to learn it otherwise03:14
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cafuego_vladuz976: I _did_ mention the source deb, didn't I?03:15
cafuego_you could even grep that for CFLAGS03:15
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vladuz976cafuego_: that only helps me install it03:15
yuachtwhere do ubuntu stash my icons?03:15
DrCertok wish me luck03:15
cafuego_vladuz976: no, it allows you to see EXACTLY how a working compile functions.03:15
DrCertgonna reboot into this new kernl03:15
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bimberiyuacht: mostly in /usr/share/pixmaps03:16
vladuz976cafuego_: ok i guess then i'll give that a try03:17
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zer0`does ubuntu have a program for seeing what partitions i have?03:17
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cafuego_vladuz976: Notable the debian/rules file, which is used to run all commands03:17
Rangerhowdy all03:17
cafuego_zer0`: 'df'03:17
deltabzer0`: Applications > System Tools > GParted03:18
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Rangeranyone around?03:18
Madpilotis GParted installed by default? I thought I'd added it...03:19
ZodiacHey guys, what is a good CD ripper??03:19
MadpilotZodiac: Sound Juicer03:19
deltabMadpilot: I have it (live cd)03:19
ZodiacThe default ripper?03:19
zer0`dont think i have gparted installed, got the cd a few months ago though03:19
Zodiacmine is slow as molassis(sp)03:19
Madpilotdeltab: OK, interesting03:20
vladuz976what is the zlib package called in ubuntu? aptitude can't find zlib?03:20
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Madpilotzer0`: search Synaptic for it then03:20
zer0`ok, thanks03:20
deltabvladuz976: try libz03:21
Madpilotvladuz976: zlib1g? compression util stuff?03:21
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synd_anyone use XPDE and Ubuntu?03:21
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HorstderschwuleaHello Aka03:21
aka_druidHorstderschwulea, Im watchin you03:22
vladuz976Madpilot: thanks03:22
benplautsynd_: i haven't yet heard of someone doing it successfully...03:22
HorstderschwuleaI want to suck you03:22
aruhmm03:22
synd_benplaut: really? hmm..03:22
aruinteresting03:22
f_newtonwhat kind of crap am I having to see in here?03:22
synd_benplaut: what problems exist?03:22
benplauti dunno...03:22
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benplautbut i hear alot about failure03:22
HorstderschwuleaHello aka theres a chat03:22
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synd_benplaut: i see.03:23
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HorstderschwuleaHello aka?03:23
Horstderschwuleahuhun aka03:23
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HorstderschwuleaAka I want to be your bitch03:24
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HorstderschwuleaAka suck my dick03:24
HorstderschwuleaYou sucks like suse03:24
HorstderschwuleaI hope you swallow, too03:24
Quest-Master.03:25
benplauthmm03:25
vladuz976Madpilot: pilot do you know what i need for libjpeg?03:25
hondjeI need to open up ##troll, teach you kids how to do it03:25
benplautHorst: i recommend you be quiet03:25
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cafuego_!ops03:25
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!03:25
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flughcool, i'm not the only absolute moronic idiot in the world03:25
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flughhere i was thinking i was the only bottom feeder around :()03:25
aka_druidhondje, if you od it, Ill join heh03:25
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f_newtonexcuse me but must we put up with this obscene crap ?  I thought there were ops in here03:25
Madpilothondje: you're going to run a school for trolls?03:25
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hondjeMadpilot: I think I should03:26
cafuego_thanks guys03:26
aka_druidHorstderschwulea, 2 bans in 5 minutes.. you are good03:26
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benplautthanks03:26
hondjeHigh quality trolling is an art03:26
Zodiacha03:26
Madpilotvladuz976: search Synaptic for libjpeg03:26
Zodiacyea it is03:26
Zodiacwatch this....03:26
zer0`how do you upgrade to the newest ubuntu?03:26
ZodiacI hate ubuntu!03:26
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kamstrumentalHello all.... just wondering if there was a Gnome program that manages your passwords?03:26
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MadpilotZodiac: that was not a high quality troll. Please try again.03:26
aka_druidAmaranth, I was just confirming I would have enough logs to ask for a k-line... just banned from #suse too03:26
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Zodiacyour right03:27
glickexcuse me is clientform not part of the repositories?03:27
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ZodiacI suck :(03:27
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hondjeHere's a good one...some guy kept emailing me yesterday asking if I went to some meeting...nevermind that I don't know him, work with him, or live in the same state03:27
ZodiacDid you go?03:27
knowledgecan someone help me figure out why my wifi stopped working?03:27
hondjeSo, after a few times of explaining that, I asked where he worked, and he actually told me...so I forwarded the emails to his boss03:27
knowledgeI don't know enough command line commands to figure it out03:27
HrdwrBoBhaha hondje03:28
hondje:-)03:28
zer0`how do you upgrade to the newest ubuntu? apt-get dist-upgrade?03:28
eriscoare there any, more intense, games i can apt-get?03:28
Zodiac3D Chess!!03:28
ZodiacAhhhh yea03:28
eriscolol okay03:28
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cafuego_zer0`: Do Hoary? _do_ _not_ upgrad eto breezy!03:28
MadpilotScorched3d?03:28
hondjebzflag is good, but 2.0 isn't in universe :-(03:28
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cafuego_schorched3d is *so* a rip-off of Worms.03:28
zer0`cafuego_ how do you upgrade to hoary?03:29
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cafuego_"Boggy B is an ex-worm"03:29
eriscolol, okay what is the package name for 3d chess?03:29
teimuis anyone using the backports respositories with hoary?03:29
Madpilotcafuego: nah, it's an updated of Scorched Earth, which was a very cool game03:29
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benplautteimu: plenty...03:29
cafuego_zer0`: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and changes all mentions of "warty" to "hoary". Then run 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'03:29
zer0`thanks :)03:30
Madpiloterisco: 3dchess - it's in Universe03:30
teimucan someone paste me the line from thier sources.list. i cant seem to get it to work03:30
eriscothanks madpilot03:30
Amaranthhondje: is that why i never see anyone online now?03:30
Amaranthhondje: they've all moved to 2.0?03:30
bosewichtanyone know how to fix the ipod being mounted read only from a bad unmount03:30
hondjeAmaranth: yeah, 2 came out right before hoary did :-(03:30
avanspronsen!backports03:30
ubotufrom memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted03:30
Amaranthcafuego: worms is a ripoff of scorched earth if you want to play that game03:31
hondjeAmaranth: 2 is a great improvement too, I have the .deb if you want it03:31
Amaranth!info bzflag breezy03:31
Amaranthhondje: please03:31
ubotubzflag: (a 3D first person tank battle game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 2.0.2.20050318ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 7892 kB, Installed size: 11472 kB03:31
eriscoi hope scorch3d is fun03:31
knowledgeAnyone wanna help?03:31
hondjeoh, 2 is in breezy03:31
Zodiacwhoa03:31
Amaranthoh, so it is03:31
eriscoi mean scorched3d lol03:31
hondjestill want it, Amaranth ?03:31
Amaranthnope, that's ok03:31
hondje:-)03:31
Zodiacthere is worms 2 for linux??03:31
Zodiachow?03:31
eriscoand here comes in 3d chess03:31
glickanyone know about clientform?03:32
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Zodiac3D chess rules03:33
eriscothis bzflag.... it is only for breezy?03:33
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Zodiacwait03:34
Madpiloterisco: no, there's a version in Hoary03:34
Zodiachow do I get worms 2??03:34
XIIIhi03:34
XIIIhow can i setup beep on ubuntu?03:34
eriscookay i know i am dumb, but how do i start up these little games i downloaded?03:34
Madpiloterisco: just type the name of the app in a command line, usually03:35
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XIIIhello, anyone for help?03:36
MadpilotI'd heard that *everything* in the Breezy repos is going to have a .desktop file - anyone able to confirm this?03:36
XIIIhow can i setup beep on ubuntu?03:36
cafuego_Zodiac: Find a cat in your neighborhood, lick its behind a few times ;-)03:36
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benplautMadpilot: ask your brother?03:36
ZodiacIt took you a while to come up with that ;)03:36
cafuego_Zodiac: No, i was distracted by an in-law ;-)03:36
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ZodiacI dont buy it03:37
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cafuego_I not selling :-P03:37
eriscowhat is '3dchess' apt name, 'scorched3d' apt name, and 'bzflag' apt name?03:37
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Madpilotbenplaut: that might work... ;)03:37
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cafuego_erisco: "apt-cache search <string>" is your friend.03:38
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Madpilotscorched3d works to start that app03:38
DrCertok... lol whats the cool clone of xmms called?03:39
cafuego_beep-media-player03:39
DrCertty03:39
rob^!bmp03:39
ubotubmp is probably a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer03:39
eriscothese apt commands are not working!!03:40
Juhazit's not a clone, it's fork </nitpick>03:40
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eriscoscorched3d does not work, 3dchess does not work, and bzflag does not work03:40
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eriscoapp* not apt03:40
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knowledgeblah...wifi blows03:41
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benplautwe know it does03:42
knowledgedo you guys think it's my computer that keeps screwing things up? because one day a device will work...and I'll wake up and bamm....nothing03:42
bosewichtanyone familiar with ipods?03:42
eriscowha, this isn't cool.03:42
eriscoi spent like 50mb of hard drive space to install games i can't get to run03:43
ray_kafeine, are you the same person?03:43
ray_erisco, like what games?03:43
musashierisco go to synaptic find your game look at all the files it uses and try typing them at a command line03:44
Madpiloterisco: scorched3d does indeed work. type that in a regular terminal window, and it'll run03:44
MrThouWhile trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?03:45
PM-aSeepinHai, fsckers!03:45
eriscoAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!!!! regular terminal window03:45
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erisconot root terminal window03:45
eriscooopies03:45
Madpilotis there *ever* a good reason to use a root terminal window?03:45
eriscookay but bzflags and 3dchess still don't work03:45
eriscoscorched3d does though03:45
TrilobiteHi guys, if I try the live CD on my box with a wireless adapter, is it likely to be supported (it's a Netgear MA311 which seems to have worked for other Ubuntu users)? And if so, will a proper installation offer the same support?03:46
MadpilotI think it's just "bzflag" no "s" on the end03:46
musashii use root terminal to launch a root nautilus...probably better way though03:46
knowledgeam I still online?03:46
PurpleMotionI'd say it's pretty likely to be supported03:46
ray_yes bzflag03:46
bluefoxicydamnit03:47
Trilobiteok03:47
bluefoxicyI need a hierarchial text outliner03:47
Madpilot"bzflag" just worked here03:47
eriscomadpilot, 90% of the time you have to use one03:47
eriscoat least i find o003:47
Madpiloterisco: not if you're using "sudo" instead03:47
eriscoyeah well03:47
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Trilobitei've been playing around with ubuntu on an old laptop and i don't want to go partitioning my main computer yet, i'm really wondering whether wireless support on the live cd is a good guide to wireless support on an installed version03:47
PurpleMotionwhat is scorched3d?03:47
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PurpleMotionTribune:  yup03:48
Trilobiteis the live cd essentially identical to the ubuntu you get by installing?03:48
bashhowto install beagle in hoary ?03:48
ray_how can i set up a shared printer in xfce?03:48
Madpilothmm does anyone know why xscreensaver keeps spamming my terminal window with messages?03:48
eriscolol my grapchics card cannot run scorced3d03:48
PurpleMotionTribune:  what you see ont he live cd is what you get if you install it03:48
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Trilobitegreat03:48
eriscomainly because it doesn't have a 3d accelerator03:48
bashi need some source list no-official o what ?03:48
PurpleMotionerr Trilobite03:48
spanglesontoasthow can i resize the home partition I made?03:48
PurpleMotionspanglesontoast:  gparted or QTParted03:48
TrilobitePurpleMotion: thanks for your help, i'll get downloading the live cd then03:49
MadpilotPurpleMotion: scorched3d is a 3d version of scorched earth - artillery duelling, basically. good fun03:49
PurpleMotionspanglesontoast:  but you have some good luck with that.. it refuses to resize my ext3 partition03:49
spanglesontoastno it says that they are being used03:49
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spanglesontoastis there no commercial tools that I can use?03:49
PurpleMotionDoes anyone have any experience with growing the BEGINNING of a partition? (eg my free space is BEFORE the partition I want to grow)03:49
kaffeendanyone in here play America's Army?03:49
PurpleMotionspanglesontoast:  yup. partition magic03:49
spanglesontoastyou have to install that dummy03:50
ray_kaffeend, I DO03:50
spanglesontoastI mean't one that runs off a disc03:50
MrThouPartitian Magic is awesome03:50
benplautagreed03:50
kaffeendray_ what a coincidence! :P03:50
f_newtonhow do you get free space before the partition?03:50
f_newtonerase a partition or something?03:50
kaffeendray_ I managed to install it, and even get it to run! :))03:50
spanglesontoastso you cannot get a disc program that can resize03:51
ray_kaffeend, so you do have 3d support!!!!03:51
eriscoi still want 3d chess to work hmm03:51
spanglesontoasta linux partition03:51
PurpleMotionis there a partition magic that boots from a cd? I dont have a floppy drive, or a windows partition03:51
eriscoi have tried like every combination03:51
kaffeendray_ but when I enter my username and password, hit enter, it times out03:51
PurpleMotionspanglesontoast:  parted (the base of qtparted and gparted)03:51
spanglesontoastwell done03:51
MrThouPurpleMotion: I am rather sure that PM 8.0 had a boot from CD option. But I never used it03:51
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PurpleMotioni told you that to begin with ;)03:52
ray_kaffeend, user name and passwd in the game?03:52
PurpleMotionMrThou:  but does 8.0 resize ext3?03:52
kaffeendray_ yes03:52
eriscodoes anyone else know the app command for 3dchess?03:52
kaffeendray_ had them send a new one which I tried and it just keeps timing out03:52
spanglesontoastI have vmware so I'm wondering if I could install it onto a disc?03:52
kaffeendray_ maybe it's my firewall?03:52
ray_kaffeend, i feel bad you have such bad luck03:53
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kaffeendray_ thanks bud - so do I :(03:53
BROKEN_LADDERi'm trying to get limewire working, but it says it can't find jamvm03:53
ray_kaffeend, i have a harware firewall and mine works03:53
BROKEN_LADDERbut i've got it installed.03:53
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, what happens when you type java from the term?03:53
kaffeendray_ damn... dunno what it could be then...03:53
BROKEN_LADDERit gives me the help03:53
BROKEN_LADDERusage03:53
Howdy125PurpleMotion .. PCLinuxOS will let you resize a partiton .. don't know how well it works though ...03:54
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, really03:54
Xenguywow - I don't think I can stand that nick03:54
synd_BROKEN_LADDER: use gtk-gnutella03:54
BROKEN_LADDERreally03:54
kaffeendray_ wonder if it has anything to do with java?03:54
BROKEN_LADDERsynd it doesn't seem very good03:54
BROKEN_LADDERlimewire is so much more featureful it seems03:54
PurpleMotionHowdy125:  it uses parted, which refuses to resize my ext3 partitions03:54
ray_kaffeend, the americas army game?03:54
kaffeendray_ yeah03:54
synd_BROKEN_LADDER: it runs on same network and downloads just fine03:54
ray_kaffeend, there is noway03:54
BROKEN_LADDERit sucks to use though03:54
kaffeendray_ never had a problem in windows03:55
BROKEN_LADDERis there a way to make it do multiple concurrent searches like in limewire?03:55
synd_BROKEN_LADDER: what more features do you want in a P2P?03:55
ray_synd_, belive it or not limewire get a ton more results03:55
synd_ray_: depends on how it is connected.03:55
synd_limewire is a resource hog03:55
BROKEN_LADDERoh..it does do concurrent searches.03:55
eriscofor those of you using limewire, watch out for ABI Networking03:55
Howdy125PurpleMotion .. ok .. was just a thought ...03:55
eriscobig time virus03:56
BROKEN_LADDERabi?03:56
ray_synd_, all i know is that i have them both installed and limewire works better03:56
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PurpleMotionPartition Magic will work03:56
eriscoabi hijacks your internet conenction03:56
BROKEN_LADDERlimewire says it can't find /usr/lib/jamvm or whatever03:56
PurpleMotionI just have to get creative with vmware03:56
spanglesontoastpurple?03:56
synd_ray_: you gotta tinker with gtk-gnutella.03:56
spanglesontoastyou said it will work?03:56
PurpleMotionwhat?03:56
MrThouWhile trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?03:56
eriscobasically on limewire, make sure you don't download something 1kb-50kb03:57
BROKEN_LADDERsynd tell me how one "tinkers"03:57
PurpleMotionit'll work for me, i dont know about you03:57
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, did you install java with make-jpkg?03:57
spanglesontoastso I could infact create a disc?03:57
eriscobecause 60% of those files are abi03:57
PurpleMotioni guess so, it looks to be the case03:57
kaffeendray_ so do you think it's an issue outside of Ubuntu/Linux?03:57
spanglesontoastI haven't tried burning a disc in vmware03:57
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PurpleMotionabi?03:57
BROKEN_LADDERi'm sharing some live u2 clips and the matrix in ogg theora on gtk-gnutella, but i think no one will download them because they won't know that .ogg doesn't just imply music.03:57
ray_kaffeend, yeah its probly the AA server03:57
eriscoyes abi networking - a war of direct revenue, or something like that03:57
BROKEN_LADDERray_ never heard of make-jpkg03:57
eriscoway* not war lol03:57
PurpleMotionspanglesontoast:  burn the PM iso to cd in linux, then install it in windows03:57
kaffeendray_ okay, thanks... I'll keep trying03:57
eriscoanyways....03:58
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, so how did you install......? just with the .bin file?03:58
spanglesontoasti don't have windoze installed03:58
kaffeendray_ if I still can't play in, say, 10 hours I'm reformatting my HDD and installing windows. :(03:58
spanglesontoastI have it on vmware03:58
eriscoWHAT IS THE APP COMMAND FOR 3DCHESS?03:58
BROKEN_LADDERmy girlfriend and i broke up today.03:58
spanglesontoastI want to make room for windoze03:58
BROKEN_LADDERafter 14 mo03:58
eriscooop, mind the cpas03:58
eriscocaps* forgot they were on03:58
spanglesontoastah03:59
spanglesontoastit doesn't work03:59
eriscoit doesn't work?03:59
musashiwomen...can't live with em, can't live with em04:00
f_newtonspanglesontoast, then get a bigger trash can04:00
kaffeendmusashi I thought it was "can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em"?04:00
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f_newtonI just spent three hours installing a windows os for a friend of mime04:00
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renehello all04:00
f_newtonegads what a horrid experience04:00
benplauthello04:00
kaffeendhey rene04:00
f_newtonrestart this wait for that....04:01
reneHow do I install KDE on Ubuntu04:01
f_newtonadd this and that and a whole lot more04:01
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Chaotic_Realityi'm trying to apt-get build-essential and it asks me to put in the cd every time....why is it doing this, and what can I do to get rid of it?  I just now updated my sources.list to the one listed on ubuntuguide.org and did an update. still does it04:01
kaffeendf_newton sorry I can't agree with you on that.04:01
Madpilotf_newton: isn't windows fun?04:01
reneHow do I install KDE on Ubuntu????04:01
f_newtonChaotic_Reality, because there is something on the cd it needs to incorporate it properly04:01
rob^!kde04:01
uboturob^: Are you smoking crack?04:01
rob^dam04:01
Chaotic_Realityrene: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:02
rob^apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:02
f_newtonwell actually I rather dislike windows04:02
admanhello, i am getting these errors when installing java root@ubu:~#  make -jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin04:02
f_newtonwhat cant you agree with kaffeend ?04:02
Chaotic_Realityf_newton, ok, so how many times is it going to do this? heh04:02
reneDoes not work on my ubuntu.04:02
BROKEN_LADDERray_ i installed java with apt-get04:02
JoshRAadman: why not install via apt-get?04:02
kaffeendf_newton so do I but I can install it in 20 mins and i can play games 5 minutes after that04:02
f_newtoninstall the cd and seel04:02
MrThouSince no one has any help for my USB keyboard question.  I shall ask this: Does Ubuntu offer a boot manager?04:02
f_newtonuh see04:02
ray_kaffeend, are you using gnome?04:02
BROKEN_LADDERray_ i also tried installing from java's site using the bin file, pes04:02
BROKEN_LADDERyes04:02
kaffeendray_ yes04:03
f_newtonkaffeend, ok whatever you say04:03
rob^!extrarepositories04:03
uboturob^: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:03
rob^!factoids04:03
ubotusomebody said factoids was at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:03
kaffeendf_newton I'm just having a LOT of trouble with Linux so far04:03
rob^!list04:03
ubotulist is, like, at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:03
Madpilotubotu tell adman about java04:03
reneGet app Install kubuntu-desktop Does not work on my ubuntu.04:03
f_newtonI bet04:03
avanspronsenMrThou: What are you looking for?04:03
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, with apt-get .......what is the name of the package?04:03
JoshRAhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#jre04:04
benplaut!kde04:04
ubotuI guess kde is if you prefer KDE over Gnome, you don't have to resinstall using Kubuntu. just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", then select KDE from the Session menu when logging in04:04
levanderAnybody here know how to indent a block of python code automatically in emacs?  py-indent-region is not working for me.04:04
benplautmuch better04:04
eriscowho plays 3d chess here?04:04
MrThouAvanspronsen: On what level? The boot manager, or the USB problem04:04
JoshRAadman: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre04:04
benplauterisco: i play regular chess :P04:04
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BROKEN_LADDERray_ jamvm04:04
f_newtonI play free cell does that count?04:04
ray_erisco, where can i get 3d chess?04:04
avanspronsenMrThou: boot manager?  something like BUM?04:04
reneGet app Install kubuntu-desktop Does not work on my ubuntu. WHAT SHOULD I DO?04:04
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, yeah that is your problem04:05
JoshRArene: chill on the caps04:05
Madpilotdamn, who screwed up ubotu's Java entry? it's insanely long & complex now - it should just point to the wiki page...04:05
JoshRArene: did you look at ubuntu.com04:05
JoshRAit is kubuntu04:05
f_newtonrene apt-get install kde or kde-groupware?04:05
JoshRAdo apt-get install kubuntu04:05
ray_rene, its apt-get04:05
MrThouAvanspronsen: Well, I do not wish to rid myself of my windows partition due to I have alot of crap on here I want.04:05
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benplaut!tell rene about kde04:05
reneOk, I will try that now04:05
JoshRA!kubuntu04:05
ubotukubuntu is, like, the KDE version of Ubuntu. Go to #kubuntu for Kubuntu support. Site: http://kubuntu.org04:05
BROKEN_LADDERray_ that's my problem?04:05
sun!ubotu04:05
BROKEN_LADDERray_ huh?04:05
ubotuubotu is probably uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".04:05
MrThouAvanspronsen: So, I wish to multiboot04:05
avanspronsenMrThou: no problem, do you have ubuntu already installed?04:06
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, yes that is your problem04:06
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, yes that is your proble04:06
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ray_BROKEN_LADDER, you need the official java packages04:06
MrThouavanspronsen: Nope.  I cant install it at the moment. It freezes once it hits my USB keyboard.  Well, once it detects there is a USB Hub in it04:06
glickhmm how do you bookmark a page in firefox?04:07
JoshRActrl-b04:07
HrdwrBoB.. bookmarks04:07
HrdwrBoB.. add04:07
JoshRAor bookmarks add04:07
HrdwrBoBit's highly complicated04:07
benplautctrl+d04:07
JoshRAoty os ctrl-D04:07
Madpilotcafuego_: you around? was wondering why ubotu's Java entry isn't just pointing to the wiki anymore...04:07
avanspronsenOK, MrThou Do you have an available aprtition in addition to your windows partition?04:07
glickHrdwrBoB, in my booksmarks tab there is no add option04:07
HrdwrBoBglick: oh sorry it's called "bookmark this page"04:08
HrdwrBoBhow non obvious04:08
musashijust say no to java04:08
MrThouavanspronsen: Nope, I'm assuming Ubuntu has a partitioner.  All the other distros I've attempted did.04:08
ray_no java is a MUST04:08
glickHrdwrBoB, yeah its gone :(04:08
Madpilotjava is a nessesary evil - but it's not hard to install with the right instructions...04:08
glicki dont have a "bookmark this page" option under bookmarks04:09
ray_easy to install04:09
avanspronsenOnce you install Ubuntu it will install GRUB.  GRUB will detect windows and put an entry for both Ubuntu and your Windows partition04:09
Madpilotubotu tell ray_ about java04:09
musashijava...must...necessary...how?04:09
Tribunewhat is kubuntu guide website?04:09
rob^!java04:09
ray_Madpilot, why did you do that?04:09
MrThouavanspronsen: Excellent.  Now to get around the keyboard problem ;)  I shall go use my old keyboard for the moment.04:09
reneHello'04:10
benplaut!java04:10
benplautalready asked...04:10
Madpilotray_: sorry, just wanted to showyou how mesed up ubotu's java entry has become... it's not that complex..04:10
rob^grr04:10
reneHow do I Install KDE on my Ubuntu System04:10
rob^musashi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:10
ray_Madpilot, oh sorry i should have read04:10
avanspronsenMrThou: good luck!04:10
reneI am new to linux04:10
musashisudo apt-get install kunbuntu-desktop04:11
jasmuzrene: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop04:11
ray_ubotu tell rene about kde04:11
Trilobiterene: how about telling the helpful people what error message you get when you try the apt-get line they suggested04:11
jrattner1will the debian package from http://kde-bluetooth.sourceforge.net/ work on ubuntu?04:11
rob^jrattner1, maybe but I wouldn't install it04:11
jrattner1rob^,  would you recomend a build from source?04:11
rob^are you sure its not in the Ubuntu repositories?04:12
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jasmuzjrattner1: better to build from sources than install from another system04:12
jrattner1rob^, i doubt it04:12
rob^jrattner1, whats the package name?04:12
reneThe message is Couldnt find package kde-desktop04:12
jrattner1kdebluetooth04:12
yyc747how is ubuntu in terms of connecting via ppp?  what is a good dialer to use (I've heard kppp is good, but I'd rather not use KDE stuff)?04:12
rob^rene, its kubuntu-desktop04:12
kaffeendray_ with AA I entered a wrong password and still it times out... Any ideas?04:12
jasmuzyyc747: ubuntu is nice under PPP, im on dialup as we speak04:13
musashiits kubuntu-desktop04:13
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reneSame message but kubuntu-desktop04:13
musashiif you cant find it you need to edit your sources.list04:13
Xenguyyyc747: pppconfig is worth a try also04:13
cafuego_yyc747: Just use 'pon' after running pppconfig04:14
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cafuego_yyc747: if you have untimed calls, just make it dial at bootup04:14
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rob^jrattner1, try the one from Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kdebluetooth&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all04:14
yyc747cafuego_: is pppconfig installed by default?04:14
cafuego_yyc747: I think so, yes.04:14
rob^horay doesn't have it04:14
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Xenguyyyc747: dpkg -l pppconfig04:14
Scytheis there a way to boot into a live system from the install dvd??04:15
jrattner1rob^, should i download it with synaptic04:15
kaffeenddoes anyone know of a game that runs fine on Ubuntu for amd64?04:15
renerob, same message, but kubuntu-desktop04:15
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yyc747Xenguy: well, I'm not at the computer in question right now, or in a place where I need to use dialup... but I will be soon04:15
Scythekafeend frozen bubble??04:15
kaffeendwith nVidia card, that is04:15
rob^jrattner1, you wont be able to04:15
BROKEN_LADDERray_ i did install the official package i thought.  i installed that .bin04:15
rob^just download the .deb04:15
BROKEN_LADDERray_ where do i get these "official" packages?04:15
kaffeendScythe no offense but I kinda meant #D games04:15
jrattner1rob^, so download it manually and then how do i install it?04:15
yyc747cafuego_: can you add pon to the startup with rc.d-update?04:15
dadiokaffeend,  americas army game works, its in synaptic04:15
BROKEN_LADDERrob^ who are you talking to?04:16
Scytheit was a joke anyways kaff04:16
rob^jrattner1, dpkg -i package.deb04:16
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, i thought you said you got it from apt?04:16
kaffeenddadio I'm specifically having trouble with America's Army04:16
BROKEN_LADDERjrattner1 my old room mate is named jay wratten04:16
BROKEN_LADDERray_ and i also installed the .bin too.04:16
BROKEN_LADDERneither seemed to work04:16
rob^BROKEN_LADDER, jrattner104:16
kaffeendScythe - I figured that ;)04:16
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Scytheis there  a livedvd or livecd for ubuntu... need to do some recovery work on a windows system04:17
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, ok...there is a way to do this i promise04:17
dadiokaffeend,  I installed ubuntu with the i386 kernel and I run armyops with no problem04:17
renerob^, It does not work. It gives me the message couldnt find package kubuntu-desktop04:17
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, do you still have the .bin file04:17
kaffeenddadio I have amd 6404:17
rob^rene, you need to enable the extra repositories04:17
BROKEN_LADDERlemme see04:17
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dadiokaffeend,  so do I04:17
renerob^, How do I do that04:17
Snippyheya04:17
rob^!repo04:17
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rob^04:17
Snippyhow can I determine my ethernet adress?04:17
rob^dam it04:17
jrattner1rob^, i dont get how to do that....when i click the link it brings me to a list of contenets04:17
Scytherene, are you trying to install kde???04:17
BROKEN_LADDERjre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin04:17
Snippyplease help me04:18
Snippyhow can I determine my ethernet adress?04:18
Scythejust apt get kde04:18
reneYES04:18
BROKEN_LADDERSnippy ifconfig eth004:18
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BROKEN_LADDERSnippy go to whatismyip.com04:18
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, ok do you have multiverse in your sources.list04:18
rob^wiki.ubuntu.com/ExtraRepositories04:18
musashisuppository?04:18
Snippynono04:18
kaffeenddadio you said you have the i386 kernel - I don't have it - I have the amd64 kernel04:18
Snippynot the ip04:18
BROKEN_LADDERray_ surely04:18
Scytherene the command is sudo apt-get install kde04:18
Scythethat worked for me04:18
reneOk , I will try04:18
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, so do an  apt-get install java-package04:18
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bimberiSnippy: ifconfig (look for HWaddr)04:18
MrThousigh04:18
SnippyEthernet addresses are 48-bit addresses which are hardwired into the electronics of the Ethernet board of the network device. The address is usually written in hexadecimal form (e.g. 006097981E6B). The first three (leftmost) bytes of the address are unique to the manufacturer of the board. The last three (rightmost) bytes are assigned by the manufacturer. All six bytes uniquely identify the network device.04:18
jrattner1rob^, any thoughts?04:19
rob^rene, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:19
dadiokaffeend,  I have tried both, I have almost everything working with the i386 kernel including the nvidia driver and armyops04:19
BROKEN_LADDERray_ this is freakin HUGE!04:19
BROKEN_LADDERlike half a meg!04:19
BROKEN_LADDERi only have a 20mb hd04:19
rob^jrattner1, download the .deb from that site, open up a terminal, type: dpkg -i package.deb04:19
kaffeenddadio so I should install the 32 bit Ubuntu?04:19
Snippythanks bimberi04:19
MrThouata1: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat0x21 --> frozen.  Wow, Im just not ment to use linux04:19
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, it shouldnt be04:19
dadiokaffeend,  it works for me04:19
bimberiSnippy: yw :)04:19
rob^kafeine, most likely04:20
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HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: I will mail you a 500mb hard drive if you will be quiet04:20
ray_BROKEN_LADDER, 20 megs!04:20
kaffeendMrThou same here bud - you're not alone04:20
reneMessage Kde Not available04:20
BROKEN_LADDERls: /usr/lib/j*: No such file or directory04:20
BROKEN_LADDEROOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy04:20
jrattner1rob^, there is no deb package, just a link to add to sources04:20
rob^jrattner1, http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdebluetooth/kdebluetooth_0.99+1.0beta1-2ubuntu1_i386.deb04:20
MrThouKaffeend: Looks like we suck ;P04:20
rob^its there04:20
rob^you have to click a few links to get it04:20
BROKEN_LADDERoh...no i was wrong.  it's 250gb04:20
yyc747cafuego_: can pon be added to startup like everything else (rc.d-update)?04:20
kaffeendso I need to run a 32 bit OS on my 64 bit machine? Why did I move from Windows?04:21
BROKEN_LADDERbeos could run on a 100mb hd04:21
jrattner1ok04:21
Syco54645is there an equiveland of fruityloops for linux?04:21
rob^kaffeend, both will run04:21
jasmuzkaffeend: because win blows04:21
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kaffeendMrThou but I think we are in the majority - that's why windows users rarely move04:21
benplautSyco: peppermints04:21
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Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, check out zeta os... its the new beos04:21
Syco54645benplaut, thanks04:22
kaffeendjasmuz maybe for you but at least it plays my games without having to write scripts for them04:22
BROKEN_LADDERfor a great majority of OS operations, 64-bitness doesn't make sense.  it's just extra decoding time04:22
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reneI Have not been able to install KDE desktop on my Ubuntu, Help please04:22
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 i'm well aware of it.04:22
rob^kaffeend, you would obviously use the AMD 64 version on an AMD 64 machine04:22
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, have you tried it yet?04:22
benplautSyco: i was kidding04:22
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 but it still isn't multi-user, nor does it have any serious home recording apps. :(04:22
HrdwrBoBrene: get kubuntu then04:22
jasmuzkaffeend: dont whine over games, if you are a true computer user you wont mind much04:22
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 nah, but i'll buy it once it gets multi-user and some decent home recording multi-tracking stuff like Ardour04:22
kaffeendrob^ dadio says I don't04:22
Syco54645benplaut, yes i know.  i knew of one and that wasnt the name04:22
reneThere is no other Way?04:23
MrThouJasmuz: WTF is a 'true computer user"?04:23
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HrdwrBoBjasmuz: don't be so obtuse04:23
dadiothe amd64 runs faster because it has twice as many memory pipes between the cpu and the memory04:23
kaffeendjasmuz sorry?04:23
cafuego_yyc747: /etc/init.d/ppp handles that, but is is deprecated. You cna add ppp0 to /etc/network/interfaces instead :-)04:23
rob^dadio, is wrong, both version will work on an AMD 64 machine04:23
reneHrdwrbob, there is no other way?04:23
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, i downloaded it a whilst back to try it out to see if i wanted to buy it, never got to trying it yet04:23
jasmuznevermind.04:23
arpwatchI don't suppose anyone could help me with sending mail via postfix?04:23
BROKEN_LADDERdownloaded it?!04:23
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 what are you talking about?04:23
HrdwrBoBrene: you can get the package kde-base I think04:23
kaffeendjasmuz I truly am using a computer right now04:23
MrThouBut none the less, anyone have any idea what "ata1: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat0x21" would mean, any why it freezes my install?04:23
HrdwrBoBrene: try #kubuntu04:23
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 you mean beos max or whatever?04:23
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dadioI never said the 64bit version wouldnt work I said armyops wont work with the 64bit version04:24
HrdwrBoBMrThou: it means there is  hardware problem04:24
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musashii truly am a computer user04:24
kaffeendjasmuz and I do mind that much right now04:24
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, yeah isnt that supposed to be like zeta?04:24
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 well, zeta has a vastly improved set of drivers and such04:24
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 zeta has undergone significant changes.04:24
MrThouHrdwrBoB.  Do we know what kind of hardware problem? Or, should I try again, and check out the lines above to get an idea?04:24
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BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 beos will probably only run on 4-year old hardware04:24
arpwatchAnyone know why email would be queueing up and not sending in postfix on a new install of ubuntu?04:25
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, i really liked beos, but that was just me04:25
kaffeenddadio ok, but someone else was telling me how well it runs on his 64 bit system04:25
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 i used beos for four years04:25
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HrdwrBoBMrThou: hard drive04:25
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HrdwrBoBMrThou: it looks like04:25
BROKEN_LADDERbeos was the best os ever04:25
Syco54645does anyone know what the animal crossing clone for linux is called04:25
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Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, yeah how is the open beos coming along?04:25
MrThouHrdwrBoB: I must disagree with that diagnosis... Just based on the fact my HDD is two months old, and working fine :P04:25
jrattner1rob^, it had dependency problems how do i remove it?04:25
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 uhh..not all that great.  haiku is what it's called04:25
BROKEN_LADDERyou can google it04:25
KanbekiQuake 3 Has lagged audio with aRTSd and no audio with polypaudiod, any suggestions? and I've read the howto on the forums04:26
HrdwrBoBMrThou: ...04:26
rob^jrattner1, apt-get remove kdebluetooth04:26
HrdwrBoBMrThou: I'm diagnosing the error message04:26
HrdwrBoBnot your hardware04:26
HrdwrBoBit could be a problem with the driver04:26
HrdwrBoByour hard drive could be dying04:26
HrdwrBoBor it could be a controller problem04:26
dadiokaffeend,  if someone got armyops running on a amd64 bit kernel my hat is off to them04:26
HrdwrBoBor a problem with your CDROM04:26
lamontarpwatch: I expect that /var/log/mail.log would have an idea...04:26
arpwatchk04:26
HrdwrBoBdadio: kernel yes, system no04:26
MrThouHrdwrBoB: Well, it appears Linux still isnt user friendly enough for me.  I shall try again in a year, Thansk04:26
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, to my knowlege, they zeta was using parts of haiku04:26
MrThouThansk04:26
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MrThouDammit.. THANKS04:26
nadahello.  i have ubuntu hoary with an asus p4p800-e with onboard digital audio.  i can get vlc to output to the s/pdif device, but not xine.  anyone know where i can get config information?04:27
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 no..that's not really true.04:27
rob^jrattner1, the other package may work, if not build it from source. Breezy is due to be released soon, which will have it included04:27
kaffeenddadio I can run it, but when I go to enter my username and password in-game it times out04:27
jrattner1rob^, i wish it worked damn04:27
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 they used a bit of code from some app, but not the os itself i don't think.04:27
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, i thought that the yellow cab site said that04:27
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rene_HOW do I Install KDE on my ubuntu 5.04 for intel systems04:27
BROKEN_LADDERSyco54645 i'm referring to what they said on their site04:27
kaffeenddadio but it starts up just fine04:27
jrattner1rob^, when is breezy do out?04:27
arpwatchlamont, it just says the same thing mailq said, "Connection timed out" on all attempts04:27
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, yeah that is what i mean.  like the shutdown thing04:27
cafuego_rene_: install "kubuntu-desktop"04:27
leehello all04:27
arpwatchI can send mail perfectly fine locally though04:27
BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know what i have to install to have java complete and on my system?04:27
rene_Did not work04:27
dadiokaffeend,  you are running version 2.3 correct?04:27
rob^rene_, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:27
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lamontarpwatch: that sounds like firewall issues04:27
kaffeenddadio yes04:28
rob^rene_, then do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:28
leedoes anybody know what gamin/gam_server is, why it keeps jumping to 100% cpu usage, if it's essential to GNOME or not, and if not, how the bloody hell do you turn it off?04:28
cafuego_yyc747: Have a look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/103304:28
arpwatchI see, I didn't think I would need to have port 25 open to send mail out though?04:28
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dadiokaffeend,  have you tried disabling your firewall?04:28
nadaBROKEN_LADDER: installed java:04:28
nadahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:28
nadaadd these to /etc/apt/sources.list:04:28
nada## Backports04:28
nadadeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:28
nadadeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:28
Syco54645BROKEN_LADDER, there is the sun java on the sun site, that is always what i used in other distros04:28
nadarun:04:28
nadasudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.504:28
cafuego_nada: Do not paste here.04:28
MrThouwell. Im off again. I may be back later.04:28
kaffeenddadio no but I thought that might be it - but I don't know how to disable it04:28
rob^nada, dont advise people to use the unofficial backports04:28
rob^!backports04:29
ubotumethinks backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:29
kaffeenddadio I'm a week old n00b04:29
cafuego_!ppp_on_boot is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/103304:29
ubotuokay, cafuego_04:29
dadiokaffeend,  look under the gnome menu for firestarter thats shoud be the firewall04:29
jrattner1rob^,  when does the new version set for release?04:29
arpwatchlamont, I'm not sure what ubuntu uses for the default firewall?  I've searched around the system/applications at the top with no luck04:29
rob^jrattner1, about a months time04:29
dadiokaffeend,  its under system tools04:30
lamontarpwatch: I meant upstream firewall04:30
lamontthere isn't a firewall on the stock ubuntu, there's just nothing listening on reachable ports04:30
jrattner1hmm thats when i go to school04:30
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rob^jrattner1, sorry, I ment 2 months time04:30
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kaffeenddadio I can't find it there...04:30
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jrattner1rob^, you ever use bluetooth from04:31
jrattner1 ubuntu04:31
dadiokaffeend,  darn thats where it is on my gnome menu04:31
arpwatchlamont, I haven't used linux in 7 years(didn't know much then either), care to toss me a howto or some more info?04:31
flodinehelp guys getting a xopendisplay not found in lx1104:31
rob^jrattner1, no04:31
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flodineanyone04:31
cafuego_flodine: xlibs-dev04:31
jrattner1hmm04:32
cafuego_flodine: what are you trying to compile anyway?04:32
jrattner1damn04:32
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flodinefluxter04:32
kaffeenddadio I have Network Tools04:32
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dadiokaffeend,  on mine its between file browser and floppy formatter on the systems tools menu04:33
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kaffeenddadio no gap on mine04:33
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kaffeenddadio synaptic time04:34
adman_hello, how do you change bin to .deb04:34
dadiokaffeend,  where did you install armyops?04:34
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kaffeenddadio to the desktop04:35
KanbekiDoes anyone know how to mount MDF images04:35
linfreaki am using fluxbox and i saw a pic of a menu like thing on a screenshot of someone elses appilications, it looked kind of like the macOSx toolbar of the most used applications, any idea how to get it?04:35
dadiokaffeend,  try putting it in /usr/local/bin and installing it from there.  you may be having permissions problems04:35
seth_kKanbeki, you can't, but you can use http://developer.berlios.de/projects/mdf2iso/04:35
flodinecafuego getting -bash:grcat: command not found04:35
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seth_kKanbeki, that will convert mdf to iso04:35
benplautadman_: you can't...04:36
KanbekiThank You.04:36
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flodineanyone04:36
flodineseen that04:36
flodinewhile compl04:36
Syco54645question all04:37
flodinecafuego getting -bash:grcat: command not found04:37
Syco54645how well can a game be displayed via vnc04:37
Syco54645i have never tried it04:37
BROKEN_LADDERnada that linked saved the day.  thanks04:37
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direwolfgood question04:37
glickhey when i get junk mail in evolution i mark it as junk and it disappears, doesnt evolution try to learn from what i mark as junk and starts filtering it automatically?04:38
flodinehelp guys having problem doing make when installing tar file04:38
Syco54645because i am beginning to do video stuff again and it would be really nice to have a windows box here for me to do the work on with my linux machine as the front end and the back end an old p3 with vnc server on it04:38
kaffeenddadio well, I installed Firestarter and stopped firewall, but that didn't make any diff so now I'll try moving it like you said.04:38
Syco54645flodine, what do you mean?04:38
guardianxcan someone help me locate a build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?04:39
adman_benplaut: Then where do you download the deb version of java 1.5?04:39
kaffeenddadio except I don't have /usr/local/bin04:39
flodineSyco54645 i cant do make04:39
guardianxcan someone help me locate ad linux driver  a  build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?04:39
Syco54645flodine, a make on what?04:39
flodineSyco54645 on a tar file04:39
dadiokaffeend,  I always put my apps there first, that way I always know where they are, and there are no permissions problems04:39
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youngcodergaurdianx,  did you google it?04:39
Syco54645flodine, did you untar and ungz/bz it?04:39
guardianxi dont know the keyword to goggle04:40
flodineyes04:40
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Syco54645flodine, did you type ./configure?04:40
flodineyes04:40
Syco54645flodine, did it complete successfully?04:40
flodineyes04:40
youngcodergaurdianx, type sr1010z linux driver build and see what u find04:40
flodinegetting -bash:grcat: command not found04:40
Syco54645flodine, what package and did you read the README?  some packages use scons04:40
kaffeenddadio there is no /local in my /usr dir04:40
dadiokaffeend,  really?04:40
MrThouHrdwrBoB: Does the line "Elevator: using anticipatory as a default io scheduler" mean anything?   As it the line above, and hangs on for a few second before giving me the second error.  Also, nothing else looks all the terrible.04:41
kaffeenddadio really04:41
MrThouAs in, no errors04:41
Syco54645flodine, then apt-get install grcat04:41
dadionever heard of that, anyway I have to leave, good luck to you04:41
kaffeenddadio thanks04:41
HrdwrBoBMrThou: not really04:41
guardianxcan someone help me locate ad linux driver  a  build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?04:41
Syco54645flodine, nvm not inm the packages.  i would suggest reading the readme04:41
kaffeendwell that was helpful04:42
MrThouI have a dream, and that dream is someday. I'll get a linux installation that works.04:42
youngcoderlol04:42
kaffeendMrThou can we dream together?04:42
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flodineSyco54645 apt cant find it04:42
ray_kaffeend, you did something to terribly mess up your system because /local is there by default04:42
MrThouKaffeend: Are you a hot naked chick?04:42
Syco54645flodine, i know i just said that04:42
ray_My linux works flawless04:42
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Syco54645flodine, read the faqs and the readme04:43
kaffeendMrThou in your dreams :P04:43
youngcoderkaffeend you need to re-install04:43
rob^MrThou, try: sudo apt-get hot-babe04:43
MrThouKaffeend: Then we can dream togeather ;)04:43
rob^MrThou, try: sudo apt-get install hot-babe04:43
ray_yeah kafeend reinstall04:43
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Syco54645MrThou, my dream is that someday i wont crash windows just when i move shit around04:43
kaffeendray_ I haven't done anything because I don't know what to do04:43
ray_kafeine, its in there by default04:43
ray_kaffeend, you need to reinstall04:43
MrThouSyco54645: I'd ask if we could trade machines. But mine is still almost top of the line04:43
cafuego_dude04:43
guardianxhow do i install an .exe in linux??04:44
ray_MrThou, what do you have?04:44
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jtan325guardianx, you don't....04:44
rob^guardianx, use wine04:44
kaffeendMrThou you can play with your incredibly easy and straightforward Ubuntu distro while I oil you up with my perfect breasts!04:44
ray_guardianx, are you kidding?04:44
MrThouRay_: p4 3.0ghz, 1024 ram, radion 9800pro, audigy 2 sound card.04:44
youngcoderray_, lol04:44
Syco54645MrThou, no i crash any windows... i just did today on campus even.  it sucks at work because i will be updating the webserver and bam04:44
Syco54645dead04:44
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kaffeendray_ I know, but for some reason I can't boot my windows xp cd04:45
jtan325nice Syco5464504:45
guardianxi meant to say how do i extra a .exe file04:45
guardianxextract04:45
benplautyou can't...04:45
rob^exescope04:45
ray_MrThou, ooooo i got p4 3.5 ghz04:45
rob^can04:45
ray_kaffeend, no i mean reinstall ubuntu04:45
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deltabguardianx: a self-extracting zip file?04:45
kaffeendray_ um, I don't think so04:45
SeabookHello.04:45
MrThouSyco54645: Cool.  I generally dont crash windows.  Nor get spyware/viri.  But I generally know what I'm doing.  Im just a slow learner.  I learn by doing. and if I cant install, i cant do ;P04:45
ray_kaffeend, you not being able to boot xp is a hardware problem04:46
deltabguardianx: try unzip04:46
kaffeendray_ it's been 1 hellova week so far04:46
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ray_kaffeend, try mepis04:46
MrThouRaye_: Nice.  Im poor, and honestly, the 3.0 is all I really need ;)04:46
rob^those people having trouble install Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation04:46
guardianxhow do i unzip in ubuntu?04:46
kaffeendray_ no more distro tryouts for me04:46
guardianxcan i install winrar in  ubuntu?04:46
ray_kaffeend, yeah go back to winblows04:46
rob^guardianx, yes04:46
MrThouguardianx: Yup04:46
ray_guardianx, NO04:46
SeabookIt's possible to browse the ubuntu package repositories from the web browser, right? What's the address again? I forgot.04:47
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ray_why would you want winrar?04:47
rob^unzip, unzips .zip files in Linux04:47
benplautOK, 2 yes's and one no04:47
kaffeendray_ if this distro won't work I'm reformatting the HDD and going back to windows I'm afraid04:47
bimberiSeabook: http://packages.ubuntu.com04:47
flodinewhat does it mean ewhen it says......make: *** [all-recursive]  Broken pipe04:47
rob^packages.ubuntu.com04:47
^thehatsrule^guardianx: yes thru wine, use unrar/p7zip if not04:47
Seabookthanks. :)04:47
ray_get unrar04:47
ray_why would you run windows apps in linux?04:47
pavanHi guys , any idea abt realpllayer 10 on latest ubuntu..I loaded it but it just don't work.04:47
guardianxhow do i use wine in ubuntu?04:48
MrThouray_: Possably becuase winrar is the best zipping program for windows.  Says it has a linux install too.04:48
kaffeendray_ I'm not04:48
kaffeendray_ sorry I thought that was for me04:48
ray_MrThou, oh it has a linux install!!!!04:48
ray_in that case04:48
adman_MrThou: you hit the nail right on the head, I heard Greeeeaaat things about linux especially ubuntu. Basic things seem to require an MSc degree. Cant download and install simple apps04:48
flodinewhat does it mean when it says......make: *** [all-recursive]  Broken pipe?04:48
helfirewhy's gaim at 1.1.4 when 1.4.0 is out?04:49
kaffeendadman_ you said it right there!04:49
rob^adman_, its just different to Windows, no need for the MSc04:49
ray_what????? this confuses the hell out of me ....i have found that installing apps is ten times easier in linux04:49
glickwhat does evolution do with mail i mark as junk?04:49
kaffeendray_ how???04:49
youngcoderadman_, i find apps easier to install in linux by far04:49
adman_what?04:49
youngcoderif you read up on linux it is better04:50
deltabflodine: I think it means that make was trying to write through a pipe to another process, but that process ended without reading everythign make had to say04:50
rob^"apt-get install app" is much easier then installing apps in Windows04:50
f_newtonis there a doc that explains the command line configuration tools in ubuntu?04:50
pavanHi , anyone can help me in runing realplayer on ubuntu5.0404:50
kaffeendray_ in windows I click install and it installs...04:50
ray_yes installing apps is a breeze04:50
youngcoderbut if you just install it and start messing with stuff you wont get anywhere04:50
adman_trying to install java, I got in this channel 6 diffent methods within the last 2 hours and none og them worked.04:50
pavanI installed but it doesnot start04:50
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rob^kaffeend, but you have to find and download it first, in Linux you dont04:50
MrThouyoungcoder/ray_: Im rather confused by that statement.  Windows > double click.  linux > "apt-get install app"  Sorry dudes. Windows wins for ease ;)04:50
ray_kaffeend, i think you should use windows then04:50
kaffeendray_ you want me to leave so soon? :P04:51
youngcoderMrThou, Windows also wins for spyware and lots of crappy problems04:51
rob^obviously those people who beleave installing applcations in Linux is harder then Windows have never tried Linux04:51
ray_MrThou, as far as getting the software and not having to navigate sites to find it...linux is def easier04:51
guardianxwindows doesnt have spyware if u know what ur doing....04:51
ray_MY ASS04:51
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youngcoderlol04:52
f_newtonguardianx, bull04:52
guardianxhave a router disable java and active x and u will never get spyware04:52
f_newtonguardianx, bull04:52
MrThouI refuse to have a windows/linux arguement in here ;P04:52
guardianxit is not bull it is true04:52
youngcodergaurdianx, you dont know what you are talking about04:52
ray_USE WINDOWS IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND SAY HOW GREAT IT IS04:52
guardianxget firefox + no script + a linksys router = no spyware for window04:52
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adman_I dont have SPYWARE on windows I know what to do to get around that stuff. Get a good combo of apps to do the job.04:52
f_newtononly kiddie scripters do it in macro or java04:52
rob^ok guys, lets stop feeding the trolls04:53
MrThouGuardianx: Sorry man, you be incorrect.  A ton of software comes packed with spyware.  You have to read alot of EULAs and ToSs to see that :P04:53
monsterrorCan someone tell me how to get GAIM to Direct Connect? Everytime I try, it says connection failed.04:53
Fizilehey i dont have spyware and i dont have any combinations of applications to use...04:53
kaffeendray_ windows blows for sure - but is this the alternative? My mate is trying to get me onto mac...04:53
bimberi#ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this04:53
guardianxmrthou- i dont use tons of apps in windows.04:53
ray_adman_, yes but with linux it is not an issue at all04:53
DrCertmac is a great desktop04:53
f_newtonmonsterror, i dont know what your gaim configuration is but I dont have problems04:53
SeabookMac is *nix now anyway...04:53
ray_long live LINUX04:53
MrThouGuardianx: I do.  So read alot of EULA ;)04:53
hubsihow can i search a file over console!?04:53
f_newtonexplain please monsterror04:54
kaffeendanyway, I don't want to have to choose which OS to use - I want both04:54
ray_i like free operating systems04:54
helfirehubsi: find / -name searchqueryhere04:54
f_newtonmac is bsd like yes04:54
deltabhubsi: grep someword filename04:54
guardianxmrthou suck to be you . so u are better off using linux or real eula04:54
bimberihubsi: sudo find / -name <filename>04:54
deltabhubsi: search within a file, or for a file?04:54
monsterrorI'll right click on a name, and choose Direct Connection, then it asks them, and they accept. THen it says it failed. It'll do the same thing if they ask me too04:54
MrThouGuardianx: I would use linux, if I could ever get a distro to install properly ;)04:54
f_newtonah thats either your firewall or theiers04:55
f_newtonor both04:55
hubsii'm searching a file.. i don't know where it is on my hdd04:55
adman_ray_: explain how to install this file in one double click>>>>jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin04:55
deltabhubsi: searching for a file04:55
guardianxmrthou - agree with u there linux kinda sucks in that department04:55
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kaffeendso how can I install Ubuntu again and get windows on the same drive?04:55
deltabhubsi: use find04:55
monsterrorUnless Linux comes with one, I dont have a firewall. And I've never had trouble conencting to them before04:55
hubsii do04:55
snippy_how to get ethernet address again ?04:55
f_newtonadman_, thats a bin file... you cant04:55
ray_adman_, just use windows and leave me alone04:55
deltabhubsi: do you know the file's name?04:55
bimberihubsi: alternatively - find / -name "*<part-of-filename>*"04:56
ray_MrThou, ubuntu didnt install properly04:56
f_newtonray_, sounds like good advice to me04:56
hubsithanks :D04:56
rob^kaffeend, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo04:56
kaffeendrob^ thanks04:56
ray_MrThou, ubuntu didnt install properly?04:56
MrThouRay_: It wont install.04:56
snippy_please help, I need to know my ethernet address04:56
ray_MrThou, at all.....what does it tell you04:56
bimberihubsi: oops - forgot the "sudo" in front (otherwise lots of permission errors)04:56
monsterrorsnippy, ifconfig to see your internal IP04:57
adman_I was just told in this forum by an expert that i can. What is with the disinformation04:57
hubsihehe04:57
hubsino problem :D04:57
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Fizilesnippy_, your ip?04:57
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MrThouray_: Last line: "ata1: Command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat 0x21"  then it freezes nicely04:58
snippy_no the ethernet address04:58
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snippy_hexadezimal04:58
deltabsnippy_: run "ip link" or "ifconfig"04:58
ray_alright what you guys have to understand that is to use linux you have to have at least SOME knowledge of computers in general04:58
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hubsican i install something with "cedega" ...04:58
ray_MrThou, did you download then burn it?04:58
bimberi!cedega04:58
ubotumethinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega04:58
guardianxafter i install the file unrar into ubunto . how do i use it ??04:58
MrThouRay_: I did.04:59
ray_MrThou, the disk and data is probly corrupt04:59
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MrThouray_: What kind of knowledge of computers?04:59
Fizile!crack04:59
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.04:59
ray_MrThou, i had to download mine twice04:59
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MrThouIm not looking forwards to a 2.8gig download again ;P04:59
youngcodergaurdianx, what type of file is it?04:59
ray_MrThou, 2.8 gig?  for ubuntu?05:00
guardianxafter i install the file unrar into ubunto . how do i use it ??05:00
deaconAnybody here familiar with modifying thier ACPI DSDT file?05:00
MrThouray_: dvd install.05:00
Fizileubuntu is less than 700mb yeah?05:00
ray_MrThou, i would just get the cd version it is all you need05:00
bimberiFizile: yes - installs from a single CD05:00
helfireany guide for getting ati 3d accel workign?05:00
MrThouray_: care to mail me a cd?05:01
ray_helfire, i know05:01
jrattner1does ubuntu keep SMTP open by default'?05:01
ray_helfire, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx05:01
helfireray: thanx05:01
Fizilei had ubuntu mail me like 15 free cd's and im converting my friends and others...05:01
Fizilebecaus its mad good heh05:01
youngcoderFizile, same here05:02
ray_helfire, then edit xorg.conf and where it says ati write fglrx05:02
deltabFizile: how long do they take to arrive?05:02
MrThouFizile: the only use I'd have for those CDs is maybe breakfast.05:02
guardianxhow do i extract an .exe file? i think it is an executable .zip file.05:02
PurpleMotionI guess I'm gonna try partition magic05:02
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Fiziledeltab, like i forget i had ordered them by the time i installed05:02
helfireray_: k05:02
PurpleMotionsince parted has failed me05:02
FizileMrThou, you may want to look for a better diet05:02
youngcoderdeltab, 4-8 weeks depending on where you live05:02
adman_MrThou: check this>> I was told to do this>>> It didn't work because some guy told me to remove the spaces in the command>> didn't work either05:02
ray_guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A ror05:02
ray_guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A rar05:03
kaffeendrob^ that wiki link was no good I'm afraid - only deals with systems that already have windows installed05:03
ray_guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A rar05:03
ray_oops05:03
rob^kaffeend, did you read the note at the top?05:03
ray_guardianx, what exe program are you trying to install05:03
deltabray_: some are self-extracting05:03
kaffeendrob^ to install windows first?05:03
rob^kafeine, yes05:03
ray_deltab, exe is a WINDOWS file05:03
Syco54645ray_, self extracting rars and zips are .exe files and you can pass them to rar and unzip05:03
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kaffeendhmmm05:04
ray_YES IN WINDOWS05:04
guardianxi'm trying to install partypoker on ubuntu05:04
Syco54645ray_, and in linux05:04
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rob^kafeine, just leave at least say 10gig or more for Linux when you install Windows05:04
ray_Syco54645, name one exe file you can run in linux05:04
kaffeendrob^ yes but I tried that already - I think I need to format the drive first tho05:04
deaconAnybody here familiar with modifying thier ACPI DSDT file?  I'm having an issue with a particularly sticky error that keps coming up when I try and compile my .asl file05:04
ray_Syco54645, without wine05:04
flodinecan someone help me get my libc6 updated05:04
Syco54645ray_, if it is a self extracting rar, then it is an exe and all you do is say rar e foo.rar05:04
Syco54645ray_, i just did it not too long ago, feel free to try it05:05
ray_Syco54645, like what tho05:05
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kaffeendrob^ ok05:05
Syco54645ray_, i dunno get on windows and make a self extracting rar and it is an exe and you can pass it05:05
rob^kaffeend, you have two choices, if windows is already installed, follow that guide. if windows is not installed, install if first and when partitioning duing windows installation leave 10gig for Linux (ie leave 10gig free space)05:05
kaffeendis there a way to format the HDD from inside Ubuntu?05:05
psuraniguys, my beep media player hangs, while playing mp3, why ?05:05
rob^gqparted05:05
BROKEN_LADDERhopefully not the hd that you have it installed upon.05:06
crimsunpsurani: are you using the esound output?05:06
ray_Syco54645, oh i see.....but he isnt just extracting an archive he wants to install a windows app05:06
BROKEN_LADDERpsurani you might try avoiding the problem with xmms05:06
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psuranicrimsun, , how to check that ?05:06
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kaffeendrob^ is that for me? gqparted?05:06
crimsunpsurani: preferences> output05:06
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helfireray_: you rock, 3d accel works :)05:06
eL_DemeNteGTubuntu en espaol cual es canal05:06
kaffeend!gqparted05:06
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, kaffeend05:06
rob^yeah, once you are installed Ubuntu has a graphical partitioning tool05:06
bimberi!es05:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:06
psuraniit hang, i cannt even cancel it, how to kil it ?05:06
ray_helfire, no prop05:07
ray_helfire, no prob*05:07
eL_DemeNteGTubuntu-es05:07
flodineis ubuntu files old05:07
Syco54645ray_, ah ok well then that is a different story, but you were saying an exe is a windows executable, i was just letting people know that they sometimes arnt (in the case of a zip or rar that self extracts, they can still be extracted because the programs will ignore the exe part)05:07
MrThouBut what do you think the odds are that once I get past this error, Ubuntu will agree with my x300 PCI/E vid card?05:07
Fizileit will.05:07
Fizileprobably...05:07
guardianxhow do i install wine in unbutu??05:07
HrdwrBoBMrThou: I have a friend whoi uses an X30005:07
eL_DemeNteGTkien me dice el canal de ubuntu espaol05:07
Syco54645guardianx, apt-get install wine05:07
helfireray_: is flgrx a ubuntu package or in deb repository too?05:07
rob^guardianx, sudo apt-get install wine05:07
ray_guardianx, sudo apt-get install wine05:08
psuranihey i selected esound now, is that okkay ??05:08
alindemaneL_DemeNteGT: #ubuntu-es05:08
Syco54645i think the topic of this place needs to be changed how to install stuff is apt-get install package05:08
eL_DemeNteGTgrax05:08
Syco54645that is the most common question that i see05:08
rob^psurani, select alsa instead05:08
psuraniahh ok05:08
youngcoderSyco54645, i agree05:08
ray_helfire, well debian doesnt have xorg yet i dont think and fglrx is an xorg driver05:08
kaffeendrob^ what should I do with "gqparted" please?05:08
helfireray_: ahh yes, forgot :)05:08
rob^Syco54645, yep, Breezy will include the FAQ Guide that answers all these type questions05:08
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rob^kaffeend, don't worry about it05:09
n4chthey, anyone using a compaq presario?  i have a few hardware questions.05:09
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rob^kaffeend, you most likely wont need it05:09
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psuranihey it says, pls select correct output plugin, when i selected alsa05:09
rob^kaffeend, install windows, leave free space (unpartitioned) during install, then install Ubuntu into that free space05:09
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n4chtsometimes it won't even boot05:09
n4chtand windows bsod's on install.05:10
psuraniactually i had even changed the op device05:10
kaffeendrob^ I think I may need it as when I try to boot the winxp cd it keeps getting stuck after "windows is checking your hardware..."05:10
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f_newtonn4cht, you've got some hardware issues05:10
rob^kaffeend, follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo05:10
n4chti _think_ it might have a lot to do with the fact that it was previously on a network that was passing around a bios killing virus of some sort.05:10
Micksabluddy hell05:10
guardianxwhen i try to install wine i get this error   Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:10
guardianxThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:11
guardianxis only available from another source05:11
guardianxE: Package wine has no installation candidate05:11
rob^kaffeend, under "Windows XP with NTFS or Any Other NTFS partition"05:11
Micksahow much luck would i have porting the breezy kernel to hoary?05:11
MicksaI could try it I guess huh05:11
Micksableagh05:11
crimsunwhy "port" it?05:11
crimsunat worst you'd have to grab l-i and l-r-m (and possibly l-h)05:11
vader1102kaffend: I was having that in a customer pc, it was the heatsink fan on backwards, causing the CPU to overheat05:11
psuranicrimsun, , it agains says, please check that u have correct plugin05:12
adman_I would like to know why (or is there any? there isn't a version of linux that will eliminate 80% of these commands you have to us to do simple things05:12
crimsunpsurani: pgrep esd05:12
f_newtonI am glad I just use my computer and dont need to play with it all the time or reconstruct it from scratch out of boredom or something05:12
youngcoderpsurani, have you tried xmms?05:12
psuranihey it started !!! wow05:12
psurani i selected esound !!05:12
Micksacrimsun: because the hoary kernel is proving less stable/functional05:12
_frankI just changed my CPU heatsink/fan! I get around 7degC cooler when my CPU is working at 100%. Success!05:12
MrThouwell im off for awhile. you all get to hear me cry later. cya05:12
MicksaI have a laptop05:12
crimsunMicksa: it's fine here. That still doesn't mean you have to "port" it. Just download and install.05:13
Micksal-i? l-r-m? l-h?05:13
Micksaah.05:13
psuraniwhich playeer is to play movies ??? like .dat files ?05:13
Micksapff.05:13
sproingieMicksa: you could probably just install the breezy kernel.  kernel packages have virtually no dependencies05:13
crimsunlinux-image, linux-restricted05:13
crimsun-modules, linux-headers05:13
youngcoder_frank, congrats!05:13
f_newton_frank, a lot of times that  can be accompished by cleaning the heatsink and applying fresh goop to the processor05:13
Micksacrimsun: it won't install as-is.05:13
sproingieMicksa: when it breaks you get to keep both pieces05:13
crimsunI presume you can attach the correct $(uname -r)05:13
Micksaneeds a later version of, um, something05:13
Micksahang on05:14
Micksaoh! that's right, I want to compile anyway cos I want to add some patches05:14
_frankf_newton: you're probably right... *sound of bubble bursting*05:14
crimsunwell have fun. Get linux-tree-2.6.12.05:14
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vader1102kaffend: I was having that in a customer pc, it was the heatsink fan on backwards, causing the CPU to overheat05:15
adman_hello kaffeend05:15
f_newtondust and dirt are killers of heatsinks and fans05:15
kaffeendhey adman_05:15
kaffeendvader1102 28 degrees is cool enough for me05:15
psuranihey my totem movie player doesnt play VCDs !!! help05:16
vader1102would be for me too05:16
vader1102have you checked the RAM?05:16
f_newtonlol 28c?05:16
adman_kaffeend: I am having so much trouble doing simple stuff. Like installing java.05:16
f_newtonadman_, you just arent literally following the instructions05:16
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f_newtonits not a big thing05:16
youngcoderadman_ what part is giving you trouble?05:16
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kaffeendso when I installed ubuntu I was asked if I wanted to keep windows, but when I try to boot windows it says there's a file missing05:17
adman_I literally followed the instructions05:17
kaffeendadman_ yeah so am I05:17
adman_youngcoder: hold on05:17
youngcoderok05:17
levanderAnybody know why running '/etc/init.d/ntpdate restart' puts my monitor in suspend mode?  I thought I lost all my work that I was working on when it did that.05:17
kaffeendf_newton sorry - 38 deg c05:17
adman_youngcoder: Go to java.sun.com and download the j2sdk or j2re .bin file for Linux. Not the rpm! Install 'java-package' and 'fakeroot' via Synaptic. Now run 'fakeroot make-jpkg <name of the java file you downloaded>'. This will generate a .deb. Install that file using dpkg. Done!05:18
vader1102kaffend: still good05:18
levanderI assume it is because it messed with the clock on my gnome panel.  But, is really wierd that changing the time on the clock does that.05:18
f_newtonadman_, one ofthe neat things about computers is gigo.... it gives you exactly what its supposed to when the proper data is inserted... no exceptions05:18
adman_youngcoder: I followed that exactly and it didn't work05:18
f_newtonyeah that sounds better ... 38c05:18
f_newtonthats still pretty cool05:19
youngcoderadman_ let me check on it one sec05:19
kaffeendf_newton 38 is better than 28? weirdo05:19
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f_newtonno kaffeend it sounds more honest05:19
f_newtonlol05:19
kaffeendgot 9 fans in this fucker05:19
heatxsinkanyone in here tried to get wlan-ng drivers working on ubuntu?05:19
heatxsinkfor pcmcia?05:19
kaffeendf_newton gotcha now ;)05:20
_frankkaffeend: 38c for the cpu? what is the environing tempereature?05:20
f_newtonwell actually now that I just checked mine its running at 25c so forget I said anything...05:20
kaffeendf_newton my bad sorry05:20
vader1102heatxsink: I am using the dwl-g650 in my laptop05:20
sproingiekaffeend: jeez, is your machine hovering off the desk?05:20
kaffeendlol05:20
youngcoderadman_ where did those instructions come from? do you have a link?05:20
heatxsinkvader1102:  really.. is that the pcmcia card?05:20
kaffeendmy machine is making a lot of noise, that's for sure05:20
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snippy_how can I make a folder via terminal ?05:21
vader1102I believe so.. in the dark right now, wife is asleep05:21
vader1102 lol05:21
adman_youngcoder: that was referred to me by someone through ubotu.05:21
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kaffeend_frank I don't know what the case temp is - I just got the cpu temp from the BIOS05:21
misfit_toyvader1102, you have your pc in the bedroom?05:21
deaconSo, I take it nobody here knows a thing about DSDT config editing then?05:21
snippy_please05:21
snippy_how can I make a folder via terminal ?05:21
bimberisnippy_: mkdir05:21
misfit_toydeacon, no tme05:21
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snippy_thank you05:21
vader1102nope, in the living room05:21
D1deacon, its a bitch.05:21
vader1102she sleepin on a chair05:22
snippy_how can I change permission for a directory I made ?05:22
deaconD1, Tell me about it05:22
youngcoderadman_ why not use apt-get to install java?05:22
heatxsinkvader1102:  so you got it working?05:22
f_newtonsnippy_, man chmod05:22
heatxsinkhow?05:22
misfit_toyvader1102, then give her a good bang and send her to bed05:22
D1check the recompiled/fixed dsdt page before trying out your own.05:22
vader1102yes am using it right now05:22
deaconBeen working all day on this frigging thing.  Got it down to just one error.05:22
adman_youngcoder: i got errors with that too05:22
D1see if anyone fixed it and posted it.05:22
snippy_whats the chmod to give permission to all users?05:22
vader1102that's where i'll be very soon05:23
f_newtonlol misfit_toy you did go git some beer!] 05:23
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BROKEN_LADDERchmod 77705:23
bimberisnippy_: chmod 777 <dir>05:23
snippy_thanks ^^05:23
misfit_toyf_newton, yes I did05:23
BROKEN_LADDERuser group others05:23
D1what kind of laptop is it?05:23
f_newton:)05:23
kaffeendanyway, I didn't come in here to talk pc temperatures... lol05:23
deaconAcer 3002 LCi05:23
D1haha05:23
f_newtonI am beerless, sigh05:23
D1I have that.05:23
heatxsinkvader1102:  ?05:23
youngcoderadman_ im not sure what to tell you05:23
misfit_toyf_newton, but I have 3 kids, so I need even more beer05:23
vader1102I am using it right now05:23
D1did you check the dsdt page at sourceforge?05:23
deaconTrying to get the stinking Battery Monitor to work05:23
kaffeendcan anyone tell me how I can totally delete my NTFS partition from Ubuntu please?05:24
deaconYep05:24
f_newtonive got more then that just in grandkids misfit_toy05:24
f_newtonheh05:24
starfishykaffeend: fdisk05:24
misfit_toyf_newton, you win then, you need a keg05:24
deaconBeen all over those.  None have the error I'm getting.  But they did help with the other errors I was getting05:24
starfishyjust remove the partition05:24
f_newtonyeah... I do05:24
kaffeendstarfishy is that in terminal?05:24
starfishyyes05:24
heatxsinkvader1102: is there some kind of wiki or somethign somewhere that steps me thoruhg what I have to do to get those wlan-ng drivers working in ubuntu?05:24
kaffeendwith sudo?05:24
youngcoderadman_, is this the command u used and got errors?  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:24
youngcoderjava -version05:24
f_newtonbut Id need help drinkin it so as not to lose the timely deposit05:24
vader1102one sec05:24
D1http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?manufacturer=ACER&name=Aspire+3002LCI+or+300005:24
starfishyof course fdisk won't be able to grow your filesystem05:25
heatxsinkvader1102:  thanks05:25
vader1102yw05:25
D1one of those should work05:25
f_newtona keg of sam adams would be ok05:25
starfishybut it will enable you to create another one that you can mount at /home, for instance05:25
adman_youngcoder: my issue is why all of these DOS-like commands? Is there a distro that will eliminate majority of these?05:25
f_newtonheck even shiner tastes ok in a keg05:25
kaffeendstarfishy Oh damn :P05:25
misfit_toyf_newton, you are a man of good taste05:25
f_newtonyes I know05:25
f_newtonI is after all... a texan05:25
D1deacon, what do you think of the quality of the screen is?05:25
f_newtongw aside05:25
starfishythere are tools that grow filesystems05:25
D1mine looks sort of washed out.05:25
misfit_toyf_newton, I'm in austin, south05:26
f_newtonyes I know... we've talked many times05:26
misfit_toylol05:26
deaconThat link is where I got my .asl to work with.05:26
f_newtonIve seen your backyard pics05:26
adman_youngcoder: I was told to use that command without the sudo bit.05:26
vader1102http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4057.html05:26
youngcoderadman_, umm there are a couple of distros that claim to be more "friendly like windows" but i havent tried them05:26
misfit_toyI know, but I never know who remember's what f_newton05:26
D1which one are you using05:26
f_newtonyeah well Im not drinking today...05:26
heatxsinkvader1102:  that for me05:26
vader1102yes,, tired05:26
deaconD1, Not bad.  although the response time is a tad slow05:26
misfit_toyf_newton, shame on you05:26
misfit_toy;p05:26
kaffeendstarfishy I just want to get windows back onto that NTFS - dunno why it's missing a file now when it didn't earlier05:26
Hoxzeris there any command based TV recorder software that can setup record timer05:26
youngcoderadman_, use sudo and see what happens05:26
f_newtonyeah but IM broke05:27
Hoxzerfor linux?05:27
adman_youngcoder: UBUNTU was reccommended by the biggest Microsoft apologists: ZDNET!05:27
vader1102later05:27
starfishykaffeend: oh05:27
starfishyyou want to reinstall windows?05:27
f_newtonit must be rough having to use windows05:27
D1I just updated to the latest bios and patched it with some patches I found on the acpi boards05:27
f_newtonlol05:27
starfishythen why do you want to remove the partition?05:27
deaconD1, which BIOS are you using?05:28
D1but some guy added a new dsdt with the new bios that I posted earlier.05:28
youngcoderadman_, Ubuntu is very easy compared to some others05:28
PurpleMotionaccording to this, partition magic should run off the cd and allow me to resize my partitions05:28
D13A2405:28
deaconYeah, that's the one I'm using05:28
kaffeendstarfishy I tried to reinstall windows on the NTFS that's there already but it freezes after checking system hardware05:28
deaconGot it off the link from sourceforge'05:28
misfit_toyPurpleMotion, Pmagic should do it all as long as it's the most recent version05:28
f_newtonah theres the rub05:28
f_newton...05:28
D1which 3A24 dsdt are you using?05:28
starfishykaffeend: justy zero out the first meg of the partition05:28
deaconMinimal05:28
deaconthe 512MB one is Blank05:29
PurpleMotionmisfit_toy:  it is... i just have no windows installation, but all iw ant to do is resize my ext3 partition, and parted refuses to do it05:29
adman_youngcoder: I realized that, UBUNTU installed on my thinkpad in thirty minutes, I was very imperssed!05:29
D1ah05:29
kaffeendstarfishy what the?05:29
D1thats not mine.05:29
PurpleMotionand parted gives me shit for information as to why it wont05:29
D1but mine has 512MB anyway.05:29
deaconI'd report it, but I'm not sure who I should tell05:29
MicksaPurpleMotion: you're not *the* purple motion are you?...05:29
D1I posted one.05:29
youngcoderadman_, did that command work?05:29
misfit_toyPurpleMotion, have you tried qparted?05:29
deaconWhich one?05:29
D1but the one you're using isn't the one I posted.05:29
starfishykaffeend: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdaX bs=512 count=200005:29
PurpleMotionMicksa:  you mean the musician purplemotion or the one who ran the dalnet server?05:29
D1http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=39805:29
Micksaoh gawd05:30
MicksaTHEY'RE EVERYWHERE05:30
Micksathe first one05:30
PurpleMotionmisfit_toy:  oh yeah.. but it uses parted, so how far do you think you can go with it, heh05:30
starfishyhadX would have to be replaced by your ntfs partition05:30
MicksaI don't care about irc sysops :)05:30
PurpleMotionnah, im the latter05:30
f_newtondalnet server? well thats nothing to be proud of05:30
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Micksa;)05:30
misfit_toyPurpleMotion, I've seen qparted work when parted didn't05:30
PurpleMotionf_newton:  it was in 96, 97, and 9805:30
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f_newtonI was there then...05:30
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PurpleMotionmisfit_toy:  well, not int his case05:30
f_newtondalnet was kiddie scripter land05:30
Micksa*snigger*05:31
deaconD1, that's the one I used!05:31
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misfit_toyl8r ya'll05:31
deaconI think...05:31
f_newtonnight misfit_toy05:31
D1heh, thats mine.05:31
PurpleMotionl8r misfit05:31
D1do you have 512MB?05:31
flodineanyone got a link to install E17 for ubuntu?05:31
deacon256 +51205:31
PurpleMotionisnt e17 still in development?05:31
f_newtonPurpleMotion, what happened to dalnet anyway?05:31
D1maybe you should try the other guy's bios05:31
flodineyes05:31
flodineand05:31
PurpleMotion(doesnt look any different from e16 to me)05:31
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D1wonder why mine doesn't compile...05:31
deaconWhat, the originals?05:32
D1I had 1 warning but no errors and everything worked fine.05:32
D1no05:32
adman_youngcoder: this is wht i get>>>root@ubu:/home/adman # sudo apt-get install sun-j2rel.505:32
adman_Reading package lists... Done05:32
adman_Building dependency tree... Done05:32
adman_E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.505:32
adman_root@ubu:/home/adman #05:32
benplautflodline: search the forums for "smoon"'s repo05:32
flodinethen run 1605:32
kaffeendstarfishy I don't know what that was meant to do, but the output is: 2000+0 records in05:32
kaffeend2000+0 records out05:32
kaffeend1024000 bytes transferred in 0.008009 seconds (127856850 bytes/sec)05:32
D1wait05:32
PurpleMotionf_newton:  it had this micro-social pecking order... basically it killed itself with it's own political system05:32
D1so you have 768?05:32
starfishynos the xp install should work05:32
starfishynow05:32
D1http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=408 - thats the other 512MB05:32
f_newtonah05:32
starfishyit will just see an empty ntfs partition05:32
youngcoderadman_ one sec05:32
deaconWell, I keep getting the error " syntax error, unexpected PARSEOP_METHOD, expecting $end"05:32
kaffeendstarfishy cool... I will give it a go and let you know what happens05:33
D1well, try compiling that last link and see how it works.05:33
starfishykaffeend: the problem with removing and recreating the partition is that it does _not_ empty it05:33
starfishyso basically removing and recreating the partition would not have helped05:33
deaconWhen I comment out the last Paragraph of the dsdt, it compiles, but then I can't boot to that selection once I add it to the boot menu.  Just gets stuck loading modules.05:33
D1hmm05:35
D1are you using the flex-old package to compile the intel compiler?05:35
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deaconOh, BTW, that link for the 512MD dsdt is the blank one.  Just has the intro lines, and nothing else05:36
D1oh weird.05:36
deaconYep, flex-old.05:36
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deaconfollowed the directions in the wiki to the T05:36
Keeganis there a limit to the amount of data that can be stored on the desktop?05:36
youngcoderadman_, did you ever add extra repositories05:36
youngcoder?05:36
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adman_repositories?05:37
Keeganbecause when I tried to put about 10GB of music there, it said there was not enough space in that location05:37
f_newtonlol adman_ sometimes a little bit of reading and preparation can make a lot of difference05:37
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Keeganadman_:repostitories are basically sites for getting additional packages05:38
snow2hi guys, anyone tried to sync the latest evolution with a palm05:38
youngcoderadman_, http://ubuntuguide.org/..... it will have a section on adding extra repositories then that command should work05:38
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deaconYou know, D1, I don't think I tried your file.  Lemme try that one and see how it goes05:39
D1ok.05:39
deaconYou on here regularly?05:39
D1but remember, it'll only work if you have 512MB05:39
D1yeah.05:39
PurpleMotion!ubuntuguide05:39
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:39
deaconover 512 OK?05:39
deltabKeegan: the desktop is a directory within your home directory05:39
D1haven't tried that.05:39
PurpleMotionPLEASE do not suggest the ubuntuguide05:39
adman_f_newton: that is exactly what I am talking about the interfaces are too complex. It took 3 hours in here to get to this point?05:39
deaconis there a specific line I need to edit?05:39
D1Im trying to find the acpi mailing list post I used...05:40
deltabKeegan: open a terminal and type  df -h ~/Desktop05:40
f_newtonadman_, no they arent... you just have to stop thinking the windows way... its wrong in the first place05:40
youngcoderubotu, it worked for me just fine05:40
ubotuyoungcoder: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:40
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adman_f_newton: you still haven't answered me.05:41
f_newtonand contrary to a lot of people's opinions in here (no offense) learning cli commands is very important05:41
f_newtonwhat was your question?05:41
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D1http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1191133105:41
D1this is where I got the two patches to fix the dsdt05:42
D1maybe theres something there you can use.05:42
kaffeendstarfishy no worky mate05:42
deaconThanks!  I'll check there and let you know how it worked out05:42
youngcoderi hate it that people thing that if you have to read instructions that it makes things too hard.. research never hurt anyone05:42
kaffeend:(05:42
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D1good luck.05:43
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Fizileunless youre doing field work with lions05:43
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kaffeendwith windows it's a battle NOT to lose stuff, but I can't kill my hdd for some reason :s05:44
childeHi05:44
Fizileis there an amd64 version of cedega?05:44
childeI got a problem. It seems all my packages can't be authenticated!05:44
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adman_f_newton:  Why are there so many "DOS 5.0 type commands" thaat you have to use to do simple things. I understand the linux way is somewhat better eg: no .dll install in /windows/system /system32 and all that crap. Why after all this time these little commands still exist?05:44
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childeSynaptic keeps saying that "You are about  to install software that can't be authenticated!". These are not universe packages05:45
kaffeendcan anyone tell me how/if I can totally erase the contents of my HDD please?05:45
brettcarkaffeend: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda05:45
nickrudadman_, the things aren't so simple, it's just that having the cli lets you do them simply :)05:46
brettcarkaffeend: You must run it from a boot CD or while booting from another hard drive of course.05:46
kaffeendbrettcar thanks05:46
f_newtonok adman_ first off those dos commands came from cbp and those came from multics and unix... simple command words enable much greater power in doing the work instead of using all your resources to tranlate from gif to path to application05:46
brettcarkaffeend: If you want the most security, run it a few times or with /dev/random instead of /dev/zero (it will take longer though)05:46
qweHI ALL, I need help getting my Wireless card to work.  Im on an AMD6405:46
kaffeendok, can anyone tell me how/if I can totally erase the contents of my HDD from WITHIN Ubuntu please?05:47
deltabf_newton: "cbp"?05:47
nickrudf_newton, eh, I just jumped too soon05:47
f_newtonwait it was cpm05:47
f_newtonive slept since those days05:47
brettcarkaffeend: You can't really. Not completely. Download the Ubuntu live CD and do that.05:47
deltabkaffeend: same command05:47
deltabah05:47
kaffeendbrettcar I don't know what I'm doing05:47
brettcarkaffeend: I wouldn't recommend trying to erase your entire drive without good reason then =)05:48
deltabf_newton: ah, I thought I might have missed something05:48
deltabbrettcar: why not?05:48
f_newtonno... Im missing years of memory cells .... killed in the great budweiser wars ... lol05:48
deltabkaffeend: why are you trying to do that?05:48
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kaffeendbrettcar I'm trying to run windows, which is on the HDD's NTFS partition, but it's missing Hal.dll so I need to reinstall it, but having trouble with that05:49
IcemanV9qwe: did u check wiki? forums? for wifi card on AMD64 box?05:49
qweCAN anyone help me with my wireless card.  it works on 32 bit but not 64 bit...what gives??05:49
kaffeenddeltab I'm trying to run windows, which is on the HDD's NTFS partition, but it's missing Hal.dll so I need to reinstall it, but having trouble with that05:49
brettcarkaffeend: If you have your original Windows media/CDs you should be able to do a clean install from that?05:49
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adman_f_newton: yes i understand that. My biggest problem is how are we going to translate windows users to linux/ubuntu if when you need support you have to drop to a cmd prompt to fix the problems. I like going to terminal, but at this time i will not reccommend ubuntu or any flavor of linux to my clients.05:50
kaffeendbrettcar that's what I thought05:50
f_newtonbut to make a long story short adman_ cli is a far superior way of manipulating an operating system but its not easier for the beginner... soon though, the beginner finds that waiting for icons etc to work just complicates and slows down the machine05:50
childekaffeend: Maybe you need to erase your  MBR05:50
f_newtonadman_, Ubuntu is the least command line interface distro Ive seen to date05:50
childeIf you  installed GRUB on MBR.05:50
qweiceman: what am i looking for in wiki?05:50
nickrudadman_, that's where you make your money: you set it up, and it works from there on, iirc :)05:50
deltabadman_: you don't necessary have to, but it can be more familiar and easier for long-time users05:50
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kaffeendchilde yep05:51
f_newtonas a matter of fact that is the only drawback I can find with it05:51
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f_newtonadman_, there is very litte you need to use command line for that you cant get thru the gui05:51
IcemanV9qwe: name of wifi card05:51
f_newtonbut without the command line interface I find myself getting frustrated05:51
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kaffeendf_newton you're right there05:51
adman_nickrud: I am not being selfish05:52
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kaffeendf_newton I don't even mind using the command line05:52
f_newtonI have gotten pretty used to the redhat way of doing things05:52
adman_f_newton I understand that05:52
Tarcastilhey, anyone know how I can set a wheel-thing with keycodes 174 and 176 to map to a mouses's scroll wheel?05:52
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nickrudadman_, sorry05:52
Chaotic_Realitycan someone explain to me why in kde, xmms runs off the oss driver, but in gnome it runs off esound?  wouldn't it run off the same device for both? seems odd05:52
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regeyaI have seen people advocate ditching GNOME Terminal because it's "confusing"05:52
thejavafreaksorry typo05:52
snippy_good night everyone I'm going to bed..05:52
regeyaand nothing as a replacement05:52
f_newtonbut adman_ LINUX is a much more stable and powerful operating system then windows and it just comes with the program that you need to familiarize yourself with it05:52
f_newtonits not a little red wagon.... its a dang rocket ship05:53
nickrudadman_, what I really meant was, you can do the cli stuff, and your users just use what you give. I do that a bit.05:53
Xyc0Chaotic_Reality: Did you change the plugin back to esound and it not work?05:53
kaffeendchilde so how do I do that please?05:53
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DigitalFoxwill I get much performance increase from switching to the -686 optimized kernel?05:53
Tarcastilanyone know?05:53
Chaotic_RealityXyc0, it just wouldn't play under the esound earlier, so I tried oss and it worked. *shrug*05:53
childekaffeend: Use this command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=105:53
qweiceman:im on a Intel 2200bg and there is no wifi for that05:53
Chaotic_Realitybut under gnome it works under esound05:53
kaffeendchilde ok thanks05:53
f_newtonadman_, use linux for a couple of weeks then switch back to windows... you will understand05:54
childekaffeend: Change "hda" to your hard disk device05:54
kaffeenddo I need sudo?05:54
Xyc0Doesn't esound use the OSS drivers?05:54
DigitalFoxwait woah kaffeend what are you doing?05:54
IcemanV9qwe: name?? anyway, i found one wiki page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu05:54
childekaffeend: Yes05:54
nickrudChaotic_Reality, no, it's about what processes bind to what devices.05:54
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f_newtonI am pretty lost in ubuntu05:54
kaffeendDigitalFox I'm going to erase my hard drive05:54
Chaotic_Realitynickrud, so it can change at anytime?05:54
f_newtonbut its very stable so I will learn it05:54
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IcemanV9qwe: i'm no expert on amd64 (someday, i will owe one of those)05:54
nickrudChaotic_Reality, yes, arts (kde) is not the same as esd/esound (gnome)05:55
f_newtonand its debian based which strongly appeals to me05:55
adman_nickrud: f_newton: I am talking about the world in general. What do we need to do to start converting the masses or are we going to wait until linus goes the way of OS/2? Which was superrior to windows in all ways.05:55
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nickrudadman_, not to get all gooey here, but, os2 is not the gnu/linux experience :)05:55
Xyc0f_newton: meh, stability is a user issue.  Linux teaches you how to keep a stable system.  Windows trys to do it automaticaly and fails05:55
f_newtonadman_, os2 is still used in many grocery stores, resturants, warehouses etc to keep track of sales and ordering05:55
Chaotic_Realitynickrud, i see.  are there issues with running two applications that use sound at the same time?05:55
f_newtonwindows is mr generic05:56
Chaotic_Realityie: xmms and gaim05:56
childeNow can someone help me? APT can't ahthenticate official packages05:56
IcemanV9yeah, it IS too bad that IBM has decided to kill OS/2 (they haven't improved them anyway!)05:56
f_newtonit does generality well05:56
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f_newtonbut nothing very well05:56
kaffeendDigitalFox were you going to suggest an alternative before I pull the plug on Ubuntu?05:56
troy_hi05:56
troy_anyone here use nvidia drivers?05:56
nickrudChaotic_Reality, yes. The fundamental issue is how to let more than one app send sound to a single device at the same time.05:56
kaffeendtroy_ I do05:56
troy_i need the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run05:56
Xyc0kaffeend: you should never need to pull the plug on ubuntu05:56
f_newtonIcemanV9, warp sucd05:56
troy_the http://ngc891.blogdns.net/kernel/patches/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run is down05:56
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troy_do you have this pacage?05:57
nickrudChaotic_Reality, if you have a good sound card (it does alsa's multiopen)  the issue is academic05:57
kaffeendXyc0 I agree, but I apparently stuffed it up somehow05:57
qweiceman: what is "ndiswrapper"05:57
Chaotic_Realitynickrud, understandable.  the sounds w/ gaim suck anyway. wish the windows would flash though05:57
DekaPink--; My trash bin seems to think it has stuff in it when it doesn't, according to its icon. :305:57
Xyc0kaffeend: how so?05:57
Chaotic_Realitynickrud, nah, just a laptop so nothing amazing. i don't think any laptop has a great soundcard heh05:57
PurpleMotionnot true05:57
Xyc0troy_: the nvidia drivers can be installed through apt-get easy enough, why not try that?05:57
kaffeendXyc0 I don't have /local in my /usr directory05:57
troy_no05:57
troy_they can't05:57
PurpleMotiontoshiba makes some laptops with sb audigy chipsets05:57
troy_i have a geforce 2 go05:58
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Xyc0kaffeend: why do you need to go there?05:58
troy_only works with 6111 or lower05:58
f_newtonIcemanV9, but I can write an os2 routine on a floppy that will maintain building logistics, security, and fire systems05:58
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nickrudChaotic_Reality, so, esd and alsa are intended to be buffers between apps and sound cards05:58
troy_so i need 6111 2.6.9+ patch05:58
guardianxhow do u type in red? like sometimes people ans my msg and i see it display red ... how do i do that??05:58
Chaotic_RealityPurpleMotion, cool.  Mine is a gateway. :O05:58
troy_i need the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run05:58
nickruds/alsa/arts/05:58
kaffeendxyc0 I have to move a folder there which isn't working in it's current location05:58
Chaotic_Realitynickrud, so i guess sound is kde's weak point?05:58
PurpleMotionnot really05:58
PurpleMotioni like arts05:59
Xyc0kaffeend: ... why don't you tell me your ultimate goal, we can work from there05:59
troy_ill check in #nvidia05:59
kaffeendxyco I want to play America's Army05:59
nickrudChaotic_Reality, I don't run kde, so I won't say; sound is still the kernel's weakness, though.05:59
troy_i want to play AA to!05:59
troy_thats why i need this driver05:59
Chaotic_Realityit sounds just like the mp3s in gnome, but i've already ran into issues where it thinks something else is open using the sound so it won't work. annoying05:59
Chaotic_Realitynickrud, ahh05:59
Xyc0kaffeend: did you type sudo sh AmericasArmy.bin?05:59
kaffeendtroy_ gl with that - was at it all day yesterday05:59
adman_nickrud:  f_newton I am signing off of ubuntu. I attempted redhat at version 6.0, now I will do the same for UBUNTU. See you all in 3 years after I get tired of Windows Vista.05:59
PurpleMotionmy sound works fine, even though its a full duplex card and sure as hell doesnt do full duplex05:59
f_newtonadman_, do what you feel is best06:00
Chaotic_Realityit'd be cool if my external speakers worked w/ my laptop. i'd be happy06:00
nickrudadman_, I ran redhat 6.0; switched to debian a while back06:00
kaffeendxyc0 no I double-clicked the armyops sh file06:00
Xyc0that is why06:00
PurpleMotionattitudes like that annoy me06:00
Chaotic_Reality?06:00
Xyc0kaffeend: you need to install it with root permissions, for some odd reason it wont let me as user06:00
kaffeendXyc0 It's at /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops06:01
f_newtonbut honestlyh adman_ we prefer to have the rubes use windows... it gives us greater power over them06:01
nickrudChaotic_Reality, it's a matter of the cards, really, not the kernel. Bad memories :)06:01
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PurpleMotioni'll give it a shot for a day, but the first time something doesnt work, im gonna go back to windows.. know what i think? i think you should STAY there.06:01
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Xyc0Purple stop06:01
kaffeendXyc0 I can run it, but in-game I enter my username and password, click enter and it times out06:01
f_newtonnow now PurpleMotion adman_ is doing the best he knows how06:01
IcemanV9f_newton: same here .. i always created many programs that will install the app automagically on many boxes back then .. now, we have to depends on Tivoli, Wise or WinInstall to install apps automagically (very expensive way to do it)06:01
Chaotic_Realityheh i don't recall saying i was going to go back to windows.06:02
f_newtonIcemanV9, I dont06:02
PurpleMotionYMMV, im just in a bad mood, dont mind me people06:02
f_newtonlol I use what I want to use and the new boys on the block are lost06:02
f_newtonlol06:02
Xyc0kaffeend: So wait, wait, what does that have to do with copying to usr/local?06:02
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kaffeendSomeone in here said that's what I should do06:03
IcemanV9f_newton: we switched from os/2 to winnt back then .. it's the company's decision (for what i don't care anymore ha!)06:03
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kaffeendXyc0 someone here suggested it06:03
Xyc0PurpleMotion: keep it too your self or make a weblog, this room is for helping06:03
f_newtonIcemanV9, nt is built on the os2 model06:03
PurpleMotionXyc0:  of which i do more than my fair share :) dont mind me, man, bad day06:03
Xyc0PurpleMotion: no worries dude, I just dont like to see new users put down06:04
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PurpleMotionI just hate to see people give up06:04
kaffeendPurpleMotion some of us (like moi) are just thick/disabled06:04
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PurpleMotionand some are just SO ready to06:04
PurpleMotionthick and disables are synonamous? heheheh06:04
PurpleMotiondisabled06:04
Xyc0kaffeend: the time out sounds like a problem with AA's nickserver06:05
Chaotic_Realitytaking dog for a walk. bbiab06:05
Xyc0kaffeend: can you play single player?06:05
kaffeendPurpleMotion I am new, like 1 week new, but I wanna stay coz I can see that this offers every flexibility I could ever want06:05
f_newtonadman_, VISTA hasnt come out yet has it?06:05
DigitalFoxhrm06:05
Xyc0No06:05
Xyc0vista is still beta06:05
kaffeendXyc0 no - can't even train06:05
adman_hahaha, man I am not the enemy. I love this stuff. I use linux for firewalls, caching, web-hosting. My issue is that the desktop/I needs to be made easier for the masses.06:05
f_newtonI need a copy to learn the hacks err I mean to investigate its ...security, yeah thats it...06:06
Xyc0kaffeend: did you install your video card drivers?06:06
PurpleMotionXyc0:  not saying this is true of the person in question, but far too often i see people try linux just so they can find reasons to feel justified in using windows...06:06
PurpleMotionadman_:  yeah man, my bad06:06
PurpleMotionand kaffeend06:06
adman_f_newton: I have to beta and it looks great so far.06:06
PurpleMotioni know, ive seen you in here EVERY day :)06:06
kaffeendXyco um... I think so - nVidia shows on bootup06:06
nickrudadman_, yeah, a few years of trying tells me you are right ;(06:06
PurpleMotionand you're learning06:06
Xyc0PurpleMotion: I agree with you on that, you dont join a distro channel and talk about how much better another distro is06:06
Xyc0I consider windows a distro of M$06:07
kaffeendlol AND I'm disabled too06:07
f_newtonadman_, I dont know anyone yet who has had trouble usin this as a desktop... its just when you try to play admin that it gets broken06:07
Xyc0kaffeend: open terminal and enter: glxinfo06:07
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Xyc0kaffeend: scroll to the top of all that data06:07
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kaffeendXyc0 yep06:08
Xyc0kaffeend: tell me if direct rendering  is yes06:08
PurpleMotionXyc0:  i couldnt care less about distro wars, everybody who's worth a damn knows rpm sucks, apt rules :-P It's the people who try linux and just look for something to go wrong and then they say "see thats why i use windows and windows is better" I just like to smash their fscking heads through a wall06:08
z|banditoi own a box that i loan to some student friends for use as a desktop06:08
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f_newtonI have deployed hundreds of fedora desktops in office environments and the people tend to like it better after a few weeks of grumbling.... and believe me ubuntu is much easier then fedora06:08
adman_Aha, that is where Vista improves on XP and tha others, by not giving full admin priv. to the user.06:08
kaffeendXyc0 it is06:08
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Xyc0PurpleMotion: breath brother, breath06:08
nickrudI hate that a person can walk into the local stationary, sees a $14us package that makes greeting cards, and there's no alternative here06:08
f_newtonadman you can set users in any nt envion06:08
f_newtonenviron'06:08
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z|banditoas remote administrator and root, is there a way i can display a message and/or image in a popup window to them?06:08
PurpleMotiontold ya, bro.. BAD day06:08
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PurpleMotionim getting better tho06:09
deaconD1:  You there?06:09
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D1ya06:09
Xyc0Linux users need a manifest to remind us why we do what we do06:09
z|banditolike ssh in, and make a window appear on their gnome session with a message and image?06:09
PurpleMotionbut I'm always truly delighted to see people like kaffeend who are not only willing to learn the new system, but seem even eager to do so06:09
Xyc0manifesto06:09
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kaffeendlol06:09
kaffeendthanks PurpleMotion06:10
deaconYou might want to re-upload you dsdt file to sourceforge.  I just tried to use it, it's totally corrupt.06:10
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Xyc0kaffeend: run americasarmy from terminal06:10
Miks how can i make the "floppy" drive unit to dissapear from the "Computer", like unmounting it forever...i disconnected it but it still appears in the system06:10
D1oh sucky.w06:10
kaffeendand I fucking hate windows with a passion!06:10
Xyc0kaffeend: do you know how?06:10
D1what happens when you download it?06:10
deaconfull of ASCII test06:10
guardianxhow do u respond to some1 in the chat room and make them see the font as red?06:10
z|banditoi guess i could just launch an image viewer remotely, but it's a very old box with limited resources, so i'd like to just have a window appear in the existing gnome session with an 'ok' button or something similar06:10
deacontext06:10
Xyc0kaffeend: watch the language06:10
kaffeendchmod +x /home/etc..?06:10
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kaffeendXyc0 sorry for the language everyone :s06:11
PurpleMotionhow do you guys think aa will run on my system? i got a 1.7ghz/256k p4, a 128mb radeon9250, 384mb ram, a 120gb uata-100/2mbcache hdd with the latest fglrx drivers (kernel, xorg)06:11
Xyc0kaffeend: did you try to run AA from terminal?06:11
kaffeendXyc0 how do I run it from terminal please?06:11
D1try right clicking and downloading.06:12
Xyc0PurpleMotion: run it at lowest possible textures, but keep your resolution resonable06:12
D1then decompressing it06:12
Madpilotguardianx: start your line with their nick, usually06:12
PurpleMotionXyc0:  you really think ill need to set the textures low?06:12
deaconI used wget actually06:12
deaconbut I can try right click06:12
PurpleMotionthe 9250 is a pretty beefy card06:12
HrdwrBoBPurpleMotion: not really06:12
bimberiMiks: Try editing /etc/fstab and commenting out the relevant line (ie. with /dev/fd0 or floppy or the like)06:12
kaffeendI have a 570006:12
qweWHO KNOWS AMD64s REALLY WELL?????????06:12
kaffeend:)06:13
Xyc0PurpleMotion: yes, AA has crazy textures.  Not nessisarily good, just high process06:13
zer0does anyone know how to install bzflag? i'm on hoary and apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package bzflag" . do i need some new servers in my sources.list ?06:13
PurpleMotioni mean its not spectacular, but it's not shite either06:13
D1I'll reupload anyway.06:13
zer0does anyone know how to install bzflag? i'm on hoary and apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package bzflag" . do i need some new servers in my sources.list ?06:13
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PurpleMotionright on06:13
Xyc0someone kick zero06:13
kaffeendqwe I have one06:13
Miksthanks bimberi :)06:13
Madpilot!lart zer006:13
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PurpleMotionit's a hell of a lot better than the card i *had*... I had a 16MB 2xAGP ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra06:13
Xyc0nice06:13
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bimberiMiks: yw :) did it work?06:13
Xyc0PurpleMotion: it isnt the card, its the drivers06:14
Madpilotwow, some of ubotu's larts are pretty evil... ;)06:14
Xyc0PurpleMotion: ati drivers bottle neck the card06:14
Xyc0ha ha06:14
Miksyep!06:14
bimberiMiks: thanks - I'll lock that one into the personal knowledgebase then :)06:15
Xyc0zer0: don't spam your question, that doesn't encourage anyone to help you06:15
PurpleMotionXyc0:  well, the fglrx package maintained by ubuntu failed me, so i used the latest fglrx drivers from ati.com, and yeah i can see where the drivers are bottlenecking the card, but actually i'd prefer that to the problems people have with the accelerated nvidia drivers06:15
kaffeendXyc0 I'm not sure how to run AA from Terminal - is it sudo chmod +x /home/me/Desktop/Armyops?06:15
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PurpleMotioncause at least the ati drivers are stable06:15
Mikshehe...yeah...its kinda funny..but it works..thats why i love this system :)06:15
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Xyc0PurpleMotion: heh, no just stick with the ones ubuntu has06:15
deaconoh crud.  Now/ I've gone and forgotten the "move" command06:15
PurpleMotionXyc0:  absolutely not. they failed me06:16
f_newtonmv deacon mv06:16
Madpilotdeacon: mv?06:16
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Xyc0kaffeend: oh im sorry, i was looking up the terminal command for you06:16
deaconoh yeah. duh06:16
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Xyc0kaffeend: one sec06:16
PurpleMotioni was unable to acheive DRI06:16
kaffeendXyc0 ok06:16
PurpleMotionno matter what i did06:16
PurpleMotionnow, i have dri :)06:16
deaconI MUST be tired when I make dumb mistakes liek that06:16
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f_newtonlol this laptop has a massive 8meg ati mobility one card in it06:16
PurpleMotiondeacon:  like misspelling like?06:16
Fizilewhoa buddy06:16
f_newtonlol06:16
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deaconyep. lol06:16
psuraniguys,  does download manager in ubuntu suppot resume ?? i mean while downloading is electricity goes off, is it poosible to resume then ??06:17
deaconneeed sleeeeep06:17
PurpleMotiongo to bed06:17
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Xyc0kaffeend: in terminal: armyops06:17
f_newtonpsurani, I really dont know06:17
PurpleMotionHai, Dr_Willis06:17
Kyralaway Bedtime06:17
arudeacon: get a linux book :)06:17
kaffeendUbuntu is a bestower of virtues06:17
Kyral...damn forgot the /06:17
Dr_WillisMoo!06:17
Dr_Willis;P06:17
Xyc0kaffeend: when you run it, do everything you normaly want to do06:17
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kaffeendok Xyc0 thanks06:18
Madpilotdeacon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands06:18
nickrudpsurani, yes, downloadmanger will resume where the download left off06:18
Xyc0kaffeend: if it crashes, paste the error in !pastebin06:18
Xyc0!pastebin06:18
ubotupastebin is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood06:18
psuranii m talking abt d4x06:18
kaffeenddidn't crash coz didn't work Xyc006:18
isaihow do I add a menu entry to the gnome-menu?06:18
nickrudpsurani, I think that's d4x's purpose, if the server will support resume06:18
Xyc0kaffeend: what was the error?06:18
deaconok, now, I knew the command.  I'm just so dang tired after spending all day editing ACPI DSDT files and TBshooting them I had a brain fart.06:18
PurpleMotionbbl, my kid wants to watch bad news bears06:19
kaffeendXyc0 bash: armyops: command not found06:19
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psuraninickrud, ahh i see ,thanks06:19
AntiparadigmWhat is the name of the file where I would put the [hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc ]  command so that it does it automatically?06:19
deaconBut I do need sleep.06:19
deaconI thnk I'll pick it up tomorrow06:19
deaconCU all later!06:20
nickrudAntiparadigm, is that your cdrom/dvd?06:20
Xyc0kaffeend: how did you install AA?06:20
AntiparadigmDVD06:20
AntiparadigmIt is set to dma off by default06:20
IcemanV9Antiparadigm: /etc/hdparm.conf06:20
AntiparadigmCool06:20
Antiparadigmthanks06:20
nickrudAntiparadigm, /etc/hdparm is run too early to work.06:20
Dr_WillisAntiparadigm,   i normally put it at the end of that ocnfig file - read the comments.. :P06:20
kaffeendXyc0 Ah... Um, I can't remember dude - was a lot of messing about06:20
AntiparadigmOk.06:20
AntiparadigmNo prob06:20
psuraninickrud, , for installing packages like xmms, d4x, will i have to change my repostries, of i can directly execute the sudo apt-get install commands ?06:20
kaffeendworking06:21
Xyc0kaffeend: well, why don't you try installing it following the directions06:21
Xyc0kaffeend: sorry if that sounded sarcastic, it wasnt ment to be06:21
nickrudpsurani, for d4x and xmms, specifically, you need to enable universe.06:21
glickDiscovery's cargo module returns to the playload [sic]  bay Friday as the crew began to wrap up their work.06:21
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glicklol as seen on CNN.com06:21
psuraninickrud, , how to enable them ??06:22
nickrud!tell psurani about repositories06:22
Dr_Willis:)06:22
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Dr_Willisit has a jungle gym and everything06:22
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psuraninickrud, , i know source.list thing,06:22
psuranibut do i need to add any line in that ?06:22
kaffeendXyc0 - but it runs fine- until I hit Login and it says connecting......06:22
Cranehiya06:22
kaffeendXyc0 then times out06:23
Xyc0sigh06:23
Xyc0how are you running it?06:23
glicki have a question about the word "sic'06:23
darkheartHello, I've been trying to get fglrx driver to work but I can't seem to be able to. Right now I am trying to build the fglrx module, but I keep failing with the error 'make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386' make[1] : Makefile: No such file or directory' Can anyone help me out?06:23
nickrudpsurani, then, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 is the sources.list you want to have.06:23
kaffeendXyco /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops06:23
glickif someone incorrectly uses sic in a sentance where there is no mistake, wont that cause infinite sic recursion whenever someone quotes that sentance06:23
glickfor example...06:23
glickThis sentance is [sic]  correct.06:24
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glickso if i quoted that it would be  "This sentance is [sic]  [sic]  correct.06:24
Dr_Willissounds like somthing some stuffy english major would come up with.06:24
Madpilotglick: you're mis-spelling sentence, though ;)06:24
glickand if i qupted that i would need 3 sics06:24
psuraninickrud, ,do i need to add that into sources.list or i just open that link ?06:24
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Dr_Willis:P06:24
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kaffeendlol06:24
Madpilotbesides, the whole idea is just [sic] 06:24
psuranideb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse06:25
psuranideb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse06:25
psuranido i have to add it to sources list and then do update ??06:25
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glicku [sic]  bastard!06:26
glickhehe06:26
Xyc0kaffeend: no, you just got lost in the chat room.  You need to use my name to get my attn06:26
Xyc0kaffeend: In terminal: sh /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops06:26
kaffeendXyc0 oops - thought I did06:26
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bimberidarkheart: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-38606:27
kaffeendXyc0 ok06:27
darkheartbimberi It is already installed06:27
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psuraniguys whats libgimp ? and whats gimp ?06:27
starfishyhm06:28
glickgnu image manipulation program06:28
Chaotic_Realitygimp is a graphic manipulation....the unix version of photoshop i guess06:28
kaffeendXyc0 same thing, but I think I know what the problem may be...06:28
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starfishykaffeend: did it work>?06:28
kaffeendXyc0 I haven't registered from this computer with Ubuntu on it - just windows06:29
Xyc0kaffeend: all that means is you are not entering the correct path to the program06:29
psuraniahh i see06:29
kaffeendxyc0 but it's the ONLY path06:29
Xyc0kaffeend: register where?  You have to register?06:29
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kaffeendXyco I mean to sign up for an account06:29
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Xyc0kaffeend: what account, where?06:30
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Xyc0kaffeend: you can register in wiki.ubuntu.com if you want06:30
Xyc0!wiki06:30
childeCan someone help me about my APT?06:30
darkheartbimberi Is there a way I can find where the xorg-fglrx-driver package is located (ie. which repository)? I've seen it mentioned while trying to get this working.06:30
childeAPT can't authenticate official packages...06:30
Xyc0kaffeend: try this, try typing the first letter of each directory, then hit tab to complete it06:30
kaffeendXyco I mean sign up for an America's Army account (free) to play the game06:30
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bimberidarkheart: You can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com06:31
Xyc0kaffeend: /home/me/Ar[tab] /ar[tab] 06:31
darkheartbimberi Ahh..too bad. It's not there. I guess it was only for Warty.06:32
bimberidarkheart: there is xorg-driver-fglrx :)06:32
nickrudI guess I should look at the initrd more than once ever few years06:32
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xnevermoreHello. Does anyone know how to get dmix to work between multiple users?06:32
darkheartbimberi Where did you see that? =)06:33
kaffeendXyc0 it auto-completed but still same problem timing out in-game06:33
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Xyc0kaffeend: what is th error when it times out06:33
Xyc0it should say in terminal06:33
bimberidarkheart: at packages.ubuntu.com (in multiverse)06:33
kaffeendxyc0 I'll check again... 1 sec please06:33
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ksmurfhow in the heck do you remove OS indentificateion (banner?) and postfix ID (banner?)06:34
ksmurfidentifcation06:35
Xyc0where?06:35
darkheartbimberi Wow, that sucks. I found it, but every mirror I click on to download it says it can't find it.06:35
ksmurfOn my OS06:35
kaffeendXyc0 it says: Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".06:35
darkheartbimberi Hmm..I noticed the one I found was in restricted though.06:36
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kaffeendxyc0 brb06:36
bimberidarkheart: ooh yes - my bad - it is too06:36
Xyc0ksmurf: what do you mean, on your OS06:37
kaffeendXyc0 ok I'm back06:38
bimberidarkheart: It's working in synaptic for me (I use the au. repos)06:38
bimberidarkheart: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb06:38
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kaffeendXyco i didn't see any ads when I went into game - normally there're a few pages of ads I think06:38
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bimberidarkheart: by "working" meaning that I can kick off a download06:39
Xyc0kaffeend: try running the program the same way but with: sudo sh06:39
glickubuntu gnome doesnt include a development tools menu by default :(06:39
kaffeendXyc0 instead I just have a black screen which loads into the main menu06:39
kaffeendXyc0 ok06:39
darkheartbimberi Thanks. i got it downloaded...Let's hope it works =\06:40
bimberidarkheart: yw :) good luck06:40
LivingTargetI have a question when a game crashes what other options are there (if at all) besides ctrl+alt+f1 / ctrl+alt+bckspace?06:40
Xyc0kaffeend: if that doesn't work, I think you need to fix your x.org06:40
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childebimberi: Hi, could you please help me fix  my APT?06:41
bimberichilde: hi. Possibly but ask the channel, there's lots of smarter people than me here :)06:42
darkheartbimberi &*$@#%& =\ No luck...I'm not sure what else I have to do.06:42
childebimberi: I've asked three times and nobody ansower...06:42
kaffeendXyco think I need to fix my xorg now :P06:43
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childeThe problem is, my APT can not authenticate any packages06:43
IcemanV9childe: check this wiki page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary06:43
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childeIcemanV9: But I think that page is for adding external repositories, right?06:44
Xyc0kaffeend: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:44
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bimberichilde: what repositories are you using?06:44
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childeIcemanV9: But my APT can not authenticate even official packages06:44
kaffeendXyc0 ok I'll be back...06:44
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Xyc0kaffeend: wait, what no stay here06:45
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Xyc0kaffeend: i need to tell you what to do06:45
childebimberi: main, restricted and updates06:45
kaffeendXyc0 good thing I'm slow :)06:45
satori101can someone help me with sound probs on a tecra 8100?06:45
brandonHey, I've got a problem getting PHP to work with Apache06:45
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bimberichilde: is there anything between "http://" and "archive.ubuntu.com" in your lines in sources.list?06:46
Xyc0you need to look for Section "Device"06:46
satori101running hoary and all i get are scratchy sounds when playback is attempted.06:46
Xyc0kaffeend: look for Section "Device"06:46
childeFor example, when I "apt-get install vim-gnome", it says The following packages cannot be authenticated06:46
Madpilotbrandon: PHP 4 or 5?06:46
brandonI installed it in the terminal (sudo apt-get install php4), and it went through all that. Then, I'm trying to run a PHP script, and it's asking me to download it.06:46
brandonPHP 406:46
Xyc0kaffeend: what do you see under that06:46
bienve#ubuntuusers06:46
childebimberi: No.06:46
bienveups06:46
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Madpilotbrandon: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:47
kaffeendXyc0 hang on, where's section/device?06:47
brandonAlright, I'll look there06:47
Xyc0you need to find those exact words06:47
Xyc0kaffeend: Control-F06:47
Xyc0kaffeend: Section "Device"06:47
nickrudchilde, do you have the file /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg?06:48
childeHere  is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/33174406:48
Xyc0kaffeend: are you still there?06:49
childenickrud: Yes.06:49
kaffeendthat's not doing anything Xyc006:49
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childeI used "file" to check that keyring and no error06:49
Xyc0kaffeend: merg, up exit that, don't save it06:49
Xyc0kaffeend: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup06:50
kaffeendXyc0 I don't know what you just said to me06:50
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Xyc0kaffeend: exit that window and don't save06:50
kaffeendXyc0 ok06:50
nickrudchilde, then try sudo aptitude update, then try installing the files again.06:51
Xyc0kaffeend: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup06:51
brandonAlright, I just removed the version of Apache I had, and installed Apache2, and now it won't let me go to localhost...06:51
childenickrud: Wow it worked!06:52
Xyc0kaffeend: did you do that?06:52
nickrudlow hanging fruit :)06:52
brandonI'm going to restart and see if it works...hand on...06:52
brandon*hang06:52
kaffeendXyc0 yes06:52
childenickrud: But I don't what went wrong...I used synaptic before06:52
childeMaybe it's a bug of synaptic?06:52
luiSeveas!06:52
Xyc0kaffeend: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:52
Xyc0kaffeend: hold the control key, hit F06:53
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nickrudchilde, there were new files available, but you did not have the proper signatures (you hadn't downloaded the latest info)06:53
Xyc0kaffeend: in the window that pops up06:53
kaffeendXyc0 after I type that? Before I hit enter?06:53
nickrudnot a bug, a feature :)06:53
Xyc0kaffeend: Section "Device"06:53
childenickrud: Yeah, indeed, a feature!06:53
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Xyc0kaffeend: yes, in the little window that pops up06:53
childenickrud: But it's confusing...IMHO06:53
arpwatchCould someone tell me what would be preventing me from sending out mail via postfix?06:54
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Xyc0kaffeend: that will show you where in the document that is06:54
nickrudchilde, well, it's a learned thing06:54
Doomhammerokay, i hit CTRL+ALT+F2... how do I get back into KDE ? ROFL06:54
Xyc0kaffeend: what is in that little section06:54
Xyc0kaffeend: pm that to me06:54
childe:-)06:54
Doomhammerhow do I switch back to screen 0 ?06:54
arpwatchI'm getting "Connection timed out" when attemping to send mail via postfix06:55
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childeOK. Then, go back to my ipw2100 wireless card...06:55
Xyc0Doomhammer: Cntrl-Alt F806:55
DoomhammerXyc0: thanks06:55
brandonUh...I restarted, and it still won't let me access localhost06:55
troy__hey does anyone know howto install the sources for 2.6.10-5-38606:55
bimberichilde: is that not working?06:55
brandonIt says connection was refused06:55
ksmurfXyc0 I mean that my banner show's up on things like ipchicken ( linux kernel 2.6.10-5 ubuntu.... etc ) Is there a way to turn that off or change it to say ... unknown?06:55
childebimberi: Yes.06:55
kaffeendXyc0 Identifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700] nVidia geForce FX 5700"06:55
kaffeendDriver"nvidia"06:55
kaffeendBusID"PCI:1:0:0"06:55
kaffeendVideoRam13107206:55
kaffeendOption"UseFBDev""true"06:55
Madpilotbrandon: did you do the rest of the config stuff from the wiki page?06:56
Xyc0kaffeend: sigh, i told you to pm it to me06:56
troy__hey does anyone know howto install the sources for 2.6.10-5-38606:56
childebimberi: I use the stock drivers in hoary, not the NDIS driver06:56
kaffeendXyc0 sorry I missed that in the sea of red06:56
brandonI looked at all of it...but I guess I could double check. I lost the link when I restarted. Can you give it to me again?06:56
Xyc0kaffeend: !pastebin06:56
Xyc0!pastebin06:56
ubotu[pastebin]  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood06:56
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bimberichilde: so do i - works ok on a Dell Inspiron 500m06:56
Doomhammerwow06:56
benplaut!download06:56
ubotu[download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto06:56
Doomhammerthat sucked :P06:56
childeHere is a DELL Latitude D60006:57
Xyc0Doomhammer: what did?06:57
kaffeendwhat's pastebin?06:57
Xyc0!pastebin06:57
uboturumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood06:57
kaffeendXyc0 what's pastebin?06:57
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DoomhammerXyc0: switching displays and not knowing how to switch back :P06:57
DoomhammerXyc0: BTW, it was CTRL+ALT+F7 :/06:57
Xyc0Doomhammer: it was F7 sorry06:57
Xyc0Doomhammer: yea my bad06:57
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Madpilotbrandon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:58
Xyc0Doomhammer: not enough lights here06:58
brandonAlright06:58
Madpilotbrandon: and you almost certainly didn't need to restart the whole box just for Apache2 to start up!06:58
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kaffeendXyc0 I don't know what you want me to do06:59
arpwatchAnyone that could help me with postfix?07:00
Xyc0kaffeend: when you paste large chunks of text, use pastebin and send me the link07:00
kaffeendXyc0 ok07:00
bluefoxicyhttp://woct-blog.blogspot.com/  schweet07:00
kaffeendXyco was only 5 lines tho07:00
brandonI know I didn't have to restart the whole thing, I meant restart the X Server07:01
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kaffeendXyc0 please remember that I've only been using Linux and IRC for a few days07:01
Doomhammerkaffeend: pastebin is a website, where you can post some text and then let someone else look at it07:02
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kaffeendDoomhammer thanks07:02
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Doomhammerkaffeend: np -- we were all newbies at some point :)07:03
Xyc0kaffeend: im not mad, but ubotu will be07:03
Xyc0!lart kaffeend07:03
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Doomhammer:O07:03
Doomhammerlol07:03
arpwatchhehe07:03
kaffeendubotu you can have my mojo07:03
ubotukaffeend: No idea07:03
Xyc0ha ha ha ha07:04
Doomhammerlol07:04
arpwatchubotu I need postfix help07:04
ubotuarpwatch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:04
arpwatchyes07:04
Xyc0ubotu: what is the meaning of life?07:04
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Xyc007:04
arpwatchunhelpful bot07:04
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Doomhammerrofl07:04
Doomhammeryou guys need to pro07:04
Amaranthubotu: what is smeg?07:04
ubotuAmaranth: what are you talking about?07:04
Amaranthdamn :P07:04
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arpwatchsmegma?07:04
Doomhammerprogram it to say "42" when asked "what is the meaning of life" ;)07:04
Xyc0!smeg07:04
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:04
DoomhammerROFL07:05
arpwatchoh07:05
IcemanV9does Totem have captioning feature/option??07:05
AmaranthXyc0: (i wrote it)07:05
Xyc0Amaranth: I know, i didn't know if it knew that tho07:05
arpwatchI don't suppose any of you guys could help me with postfix? It's irritating the hell out of me and google isn't giving me the answers I need07:05
Amaranthah07:05
Amaranthi thought you were trying to help me :)07:05
Xyc0Amaranth: gj btw, the new one works so much better07:05
Amaranthpostfix? people use that?07:05
Madpilotubotu meaning of life is 4207:05
ubotuokay, Madpilot07:05
Madpilot!meaning of life07:06
ubotumethinks meaning of life is 4207:06
arpwatchAmaranth, what else should I use? :P07:06
Madpilotthere we go.07:06
kaffeendhow do I send a pm in here?07:06
arpwatchsendmail?07:06
Amarantharpwatch: gmail :)07:06
arpwatchbah!07:06
Madpilotkaffeend: /msg <user> <msg>07:06
Xyc0kaffeend: /msg Xyc0 hi07:06
arpwatchbut I really want to know :(07:06
arpwatchI have an email account, but when I try to send from here to my account its a no go07:07
arpwatchbut I can send locally07:07
Xyc0ubotu: what is meaning of life?07:07
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Xyc007:07
Amaranthit's supposed to be able to parse that07:07
Amaranthubotu: what is smeg07:07
ubotuAmaranth: I think you lost me on that one07:07
benplaut!download07:07
ubotu[download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto07:07
Amaranthstupid thing07:07
benplautwoops07:07
Amaranthubotu: Amaranth: is this is a test07:08
MadpilotAmaranth: is ubotu supposed to be able to parse "what is' as well as just "!"?07:08
ubotuAmaranth: okay07:08
AmaranthMadpilot: i though07:08
Amarantherr, thought07:08
Amaranthubotu: Amaranth:07:08
ubotuamaranth: is probably this is a test07:08
geneo93need some help with tape drive07:08
Amaranthbah07:08
Amaranthok, no more playing with the bot07:08
toresbepixie: Yeah, that's cause I moved my stream, it's at http://toresbe.homelinux.org:8000/stream.ogg.m3u atm07:09
toresbeoops, EWINDOW07:09
guardianxcan i get tv out to work in ubuntu  live cd??07:09
Doomhammerubotu: what is irssi?07:09
ubotuDoomhammer: what are you talking about?07:09
DoomhammerLOL07:09
Doomhammerit doesn't even know what IRSSI is07:09
crimsun!info irssi07:09
Xyc0guardianx: wow you are asking alot of Live-Ubuntu07:09
Doomhammer!info irssi07:09
crimsun!info irssi-text07:09
ubotuirssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 779 kB, Installed size: 2520 kB07:09
Doomhammeraah07:10
Doomhammer!info links207:10
ubotulinks2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre15-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 1932 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB07:10
Xyc0Does Kipponix use TV-Out?07:10
troy__links2 seems buggy to me07:10
troy__i use links07:10
Doomhammertroy__: i hardly ever use it, so meh07:10
arpwatch!info postfix07:10
ubotupostfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB07:10
psuraniguys how to install RTFM FFS07:10
psuranioops sorry07:10
arpwatchbleh07:11
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psuraniguys how to install bangexec-1.3.0.2.tar.bz207:11
psurani???07:11
troy__well im in a terminal right now07:11
troy__working on nvidia drivers07:11
troy__so i apt-get 'd links07:11
troy__to look at stuff07:11
troy__:p07:11
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psuraniguys how to install bangexec-1.3.0.2.tar.bz207:12
jtan325psurani, tar xvjf bangexec....07:13
jtan325then cd to directory07:14
jtan325and usually it's07:14
jtan325./configure07:14
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jtan325then sudo make07:14
jtan325then sudo make install07:14
troy__well im off07:14
troy__i got it to work07:14
troy__americas army time!!07:14
Doomhammertroy__: in linux ?07:14
troy__(800fps glxgears yay)07:14
troy__yes07:14
troy__in linux07:14
Doomhammertroy__: i've gotta get that setup... i got ut2004 and doom3 running07:14
nightmasterhello07:15
arpwatchSo, no help with sendmail or postfix?07:15
Doomhammerhiya nightmaster07:15
troy__what vidcard?07:15
troy__i got geforce 2 go07:15
nightmasterhow r u mr hammer07:15
Doomhammertroy__: ATI Radeon 9800 PRO07:15
troy__ah07:15
Doomhammernightmaster: good, yourself ?07:15
troy__ati flgr07:15
nightmasterdecent07:15
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dbernar1hi07:25
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arpwatchwhy oh why does ./configure not run properly....07:26
dbernar1arpwatch: is that a question?07:26
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arpwatchwow, will you help me?07:27
arpwatchyeah it was :P07:27
arpwatchI try to ./configure xmms and it says no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH07:27
dbernar1ok, well, you gotta do better than that, to get an answer. Everyone here would like to help you. Just we dont know squat;) but, if you put it in a good enough way, more often than not, people will mknow what to do.07:27
arpwatchwhich I have never experienced before as every other distro always lets ./configure go fine07:27
Doomhammerarpwatch: you don't have the C compiler installed... you need to apt-get install gcc07:27
arpwatch!07:28
ubotuarpwatch: Are you smoking crack?07:28
nickrudarpwatch, try doing apt-get install build-essential gaim-dev07:28
arpwatchI just did an apt get earlier today, what gives07:28
dbernar1install build-essential why would someone compile xmms?07:28
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Myrttiindeed07:28
Myrttimy question exactly07:28
arpwatchdbernar1, I couldn't find a binary07:28
Myrttisudo apt-get install xmms?07:28
arpwatchI haven't used linux in 7 years man, give me a break :(07:28
dbernar1yeah, you get as many breaks as you need.07:28
arpwatchwow, thanks Myrtti07:29
nickrudheh, older question :)07:29
dbernar1ya that worked?07:29
arpwatchyeah07:29
Myrttilol07:29
dbernar1great.07:29
Myrttisorry07:29
dbernar1check this out, arpwatch go System>Admin>Synaptic07:29
arpwatchI'm used to slackware and just ./configure make make install, not this apt get stuff07:29
arpwatch!07:30
ubotuarpwatch: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:30
dbernar1get acquainted to that synaptic program, very cool stuff. use the search function to find stuff.07:30
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arpwatchthanks awesome dbernar107:30
arpwatcher thats awesome07:30
arpwatch:)07:30
dbernar1ya, thank the ones that made it:)07:30
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arpwatchhow do you delete files again? rm -Rf directorynamehere    ?07:30
dbernar1anyhow, I live in winnipeg, canada, and I just went to this thing called folkloraa.07:31
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dbernar1folklorama, and they were dancing ethnic dances, prety cool.07:31
dbernar1arpwatch: well, you can delete the files using the file manager.07:31
dbernar1nautilus is what it is called. DO you have a places menu on the top of your screen?07:31
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arpwatchah yeah I forget about file managers on here, heh07:32
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nickruddbernar1, local dances, or everyone doing their own?07:32
arpwatchLinux is so much nicer than it was a decade ago, heh07:32
dbernar1also, files that are not yours, you need to erase as root. Ubuntu does not have a root account. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo talks about this. We use sudo to give root privileges to commands.07:33
=== nickrud lsorta earned some morris dances once
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arpwatchyeah ubuntu install scared me when it didn't prompt me to enter a root pw07:33
dbernar1nickrud: each country that organizes/region has their own pavillion, in which they dance their countries' dances, make food, and cakes.07:33
arpwatchnot sure I really like having to sudo all the time07:33
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apprenticeEcuador?07:34
nickrudah, food, I'll watch anyone dance if they feed me :)07:34
dbernar1read that wiki page to learn about the diffs, and how it works, and how to enable a root account should you choose to do so.07:34
iiiearsHello Ubuntu-ans :)07:34
nickrudiiiears, hey,07:34
dbernar1nickrud: well, they get money in return for feeding you..I went to my countrie's, Croatia folklorama tonight.07:34
iiiearsHi nickrud :)07:34
dbernar1hey, iiiears07:34
nickrudbleh07:35
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dbernar1I went to SLovakia+Czech republisc las saunday, and I also went to indochina chinese.07:35
nickrudwell, I'll pay to watch pretty women dance :)07:35
dbernar1Yeah, its pretty cute, and cool.07:35
impact_hammerhello07:35
dbernar1Nice festival.07:35
dbernar1hi.07:35
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Kanbekican someone show me an example for symlinks07:35
impact_hammeri need a bit of help07:35
iiiearsfinished an "installrite" file integrity check on my windows machine. - no surprises - altered dlls again.- lol07:36
dbernar1Kanbeki: for creating one?07:36
KanbekiI need to create a symlink between two exes for wine07:36
nickrudKanbeki, ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.gnomerc, for exampel (not one I'd do, though)07:36
dbernar1Kanbeki: man ln should give youthat info. n -s source destination I think.07:36
Kanbekiok07:36
Kanbekithanks07:36
dbernar1Kanbeki: man ln should give youthat info. ln -s source destination I think.07:36
dbernar1welcome.07:36
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dbernar1impact_hammer: typing?07:36
kaffeendI have a TGZ folder here - can anyone please tell me what to do with it?07:37
dbernar1.tgz?07:37
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iiiearsVista will be more secure. - promises Bill Gates. - Uhuh lol07:37
kaffeenddbernar1 yes07:37
dbernar1its a "zip" archive.07:37
impact_hammerhey im tryin 2 find out my root password so i can edit my grub config files07:37
dbernar1impact_hammer: no root by default in ubuntu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo will tell you more abnout that.07:37
iiiearsimpacthammer ubuntuguide.org07:37
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kaffeenddbernar1 ok so I just extract it wherever then?07:38
impact_hammerthanx07:38
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nickrudimpact_hammer, sudo gedit /boot/grub.lst, then enter your user password when asked07:38
dbernar1kaffeend: wherever you want the files, or wherever your computer needs them, yes.07:38
hyphenatedimpact_hammer: sudo editorprogram /path/to/file07:38
dbernar1kaffeend: are you installing something?07:38
kaffeenddbernar1 ok thanks07:38
iiiearsHad the impression he set a grub password.07:38
dbernar1welcome.07:38
dbernar1maybe...07:38
noclouddoes anybody here know how to change my AIM profile in kopete?07:39
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duncanmis there a prepackaged version of gtkpod?07:39
dbernar1not likely, it is more likely connected to AIM, try doing it online.07:39
HrdwrBoByes07:39
duncanmi can't find one for 0.9407:39
kaffeenddberna1 yes cedega07:39
dbernar1!info gtkpod tells you this. Try using /msg ubotu info gtkpod07:39
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duncanmVersion: 0.88-1 (hoary), i'm looking for 0.9407:40
dbernar1kaffeend: good luck:) #cedega also.07:40
nocloud HrdwrBoB: were you replying yes to my question about AIM profiles?07:40
HrdwrBoBnocloud: no07:40
kaffeendok thanks dberna107:40
Trilobitei was in here earlier asking about the live cd, well now i've got that up and running and managed to connect to the internet with it (w00t!), does anyone know if its inability to get anything better than 640x480 resolution is because the live cd has reduced monitor support, or because ubuntu in general doesn't like my screen?07:40
dbernar1looked at backports, or breezy repos?07:40
nocloud:(07:40
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gpdAnyone know how to patch Call of Duty to 1.5 ... seems to not find the cd key (despite it being there for v1.0)07:41
duncanmdbernar1: i think i have backports in my sources.list, not there either07:41
MyrttiTrilobite: I put my money on the latter07:41
KanbekiUh..Wine is giving me this error for Warcraft III: ROC 1.18 with a retail cd err:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll07:41
Trilobitearh07:41
dbernar1nocloud: not likely, it is more likely connected to AIM, try doing it online.07:41
KanbekiI am using  xorg-fglrx drivers if it makes any difference07:41
gpdI tried to rsync from my windows install but it broke everything07:41
arpwatchdbernar1, now if I give you all I know about why my postfix won't send messages, can you help me there as well?07:41
dbernar1wtf postfix?07:42
arpwatchwhat else can I send email from my computer with? I don't think sendmail is on here07:42
dbernar1no, I am asking what it is, sorry, dunno07:42
nickrudexim, arpwatch07:42
arpwatchoh07:42
arpwatchk nick07:42
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nickrudIt'll break ubuntu base, but I've used a for a while07:43
nocloud dbernar1: what do you mean by "doing it online" ?07:43
arpwatchbreak it eh? why does it come with postfix then if it doesn't work "out of the box" ?07:43
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dabaRgtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.93.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 443 kB, bla bla...07:44
kaffeendis #cedega full of bots?07:44
kaffeendis there a way to ask a question or something?07:44
dabaRnocloud: like, looking up your profile through google, or aim.com, and there will be a function to moduify it most likely.07:44
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dabaRkaffeend: no idea, I dont play games:(07:44
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dabaRok, I am going to bed, I think.07:45
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Trilobiteis there any information on the wiki or somewhere about monitor support and known problems with particular models? (mine is a pretty normal dell one)07:45
benplaut'night07:45
arpwatchWhat are the consequences of breaking the ubuntu-base?07:45
dabaRTrilobite: /msg ubotu fixres07:45
dabaRbenplaut: yep, thanks.07:46
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Trilobitethanks07:46
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nickrudarpwatch, ubuntu-base is a list of packages that ubuntu uses to provide basic functionality (like mail). If you use something07:47
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cayne1heya07:47
benplauthi07:47
cayne1has anyone had problems with wine in ubuntu07:47
cayne1worked fine in kubuntu07:47
nickrudoutside that list (and therefore removing the master list) if the master list changes, you miss out on the change.07:48
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kaffeendhow do I run a .deb file please?07:48
arpwatchwow, so it really fubars my apt get abilities then?07:48
nickrudNot a disaster07:48
Kanbekicayne1, I've had nothing but problems with wine07:48
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h08817ok07:49
nickrudarpwatch, no, apt-get is what lets you get what you want if you thing the master list is not quite right07:49
duncanmwhat's the deal? libfaac-dev: Depends: libfaac0 (= 1.24-0.0) but 1.24-0.3 is to be installed07:49
nickruds/thing/think07:49
iiiears6 flaws recently uncovered in the linux kernel. patches available. windows XP 65k flaws and still counting. - Anyone willing to try Windows Vista? - lol07:49
cayne1Kanbeki...i got it to run mirc with invision a couple of days ago...now with a fresh install. i can't07:49
arpwatchah,07:49
h08817any reason why my ubuntu system locks completely up sometimes and i have to hit the powerswitch?07:49
duncanmjdub: hey?07:49
jdubhi duncanm07:49
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Kanbekicayne1, I had it running Warcraft III and now suddenly I'm getting an OpenGL error07:50
kaffeendh08817 mine does it too, but it's my fault apparently07:50
jbloudg20hey can anyone help me to install fluxbox?07:50
kaffeendhow do I run a .deb file please?07:50
h08817kaffeend, what did u do?07:50
cayne1what irc client are most people using07:50
dabaRkaffeend: a deb file is to be insatlled. if you are sure you want to install this particular file, you do sudo dpkg -i file.deb07:50
h08817kaffeend, isn't it the dpkg command07:50
kaffeendh08817 I dunno but the software is perfect apparently07:50
bimberikaffeend: dpkg -i foo.deb07:50
h08817hmm07:50
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kaffeenddabar thanks07:51
dabaRcayne1: I think xchat. irssi is what I use, also some use bitchX, and others, like gaim.07:51
duncanmjdub: are you reading priv. messages?07:51
h08817well thanks for the support now i know it isn't only me07:51
noclouddo you guys get a nasty clicking noise from the hard drive when you guys shut down?07:51
Madpilotnocloud: clicking noises from hard drives are rarely good news...07:51
apprenticeno i dont07:51
benplautnocloud: nope... sounds like the moving peices inside are failing07:51
supernixhi anyone using Mozilla mail ?07:52
apprenticenop07:52
dabaRjbloudg20: more than sudo aptitude install fluxbox?07:52
jbloudg20is that all I have to do?07:52
dabaRduncanm: dont pm people. check this out, tho... /join #flood and then /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:52
nocloudwell, this is weird...i don't get that noise when i shut down from windows....07:53
dabaRjbloudg20: should be.07:53
nocloudthe hard drive only clicks when shutting down in linux07:53
jbloudg20"Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "fluxbox"07:53
jbloudg20"07:53
kaffeendwell, I've done something wrong again - it's not installing cedega07:53
dabaRh08817: when does this thing lock up, do you do anything, and so on.07:53
arpwatchnickrud, shouldn't exim automagically send my queued mail, or is there something I should perform?  I'm having the same problem that I did with postfix07:54
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nickrudarpwatch, they keep different queues, for one.07:54
iiiears!xwindows07:54
ubotuI guess xwindows is not it's name! It's either "X" or "X Window System", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Nomenclature07:54
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arpwatchthe mail just sits in my queue until it says "Connection timed out"07:55
iiiearshm - that was helpful.07:55
arpwatchdifferent queues, I just use "mailq" for everything07:55
dabaRno cloud, mine makes one clicking sound, not many07:55
arpwatchshould I use something else?07:55
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dabaRnocloud, mine makes one clicking sound, not many07:55
dabaRjbloudg20: /msg ubotu info fluxbox07:55
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nickrudarpwatch, I use exim for the debconf scripting: it asks for a smarthost, I give it, add a password (I'd have to look that up again) and mail works.07:56
kaffeenddabaR I couldn't install that .deb file with sudo dpkg -i etc..07:56
nocloudi get one click too....07:56
nocloudits rather loud07:56
nocloudand sounds nasty07:56
glickexcuse me how can i set it up so that the user cant shutdown the computer from gnome or anyplace else without putting the sudo password07:56
glick?07:56
nocloudand windows doesn't do it....07:56
nickrudpostfix always jerked me around in redhat and lfs07:56
HrdwrBoBglick: system-> logout07:56
HrdwrBoBselet shutdown07:56
dabaRwhat error kaffeend, did you try sudo dpkg, or just dpkg?07:56
nocloudhard drives are mechanical....grrr...even one click can't be good07:56
iiiearsSmorgasbord of window managers for "The X Windows System"http://www.plig.org/xwinman/07:57
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dabaRuniverse/ is where it is, jbloudg20, that means you need to add universe to sources.list. /msg ubotu addingrepositories07:57
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glickHrdwrBoB, i want the person to have to enter the password to be able to shutdown the machine07:57
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kaffeenddabar I tried sudo dpkg and got: Errors were encountered while processing:07:57
kaffeend /home/me/Cedega-4.2.1-DEB.3282285.TPB/cedega_4.2.1-1_i386.deb07:57
dabaRjbloudg20: actually [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:57
arpwatchnickrud, I'm kind of lost in the whole debain thing, do I need to run a configure on exim before it works?07:58
dabaRkaffeend:  best place to ask is #cedega, I think, no idea why you would get that.07:58
supernixhi anyone know how to fix the problem with Mozilla Mail & News ?07:58
jbloudg20ok ill give that a try07:58
jbloudg20thanks07:58
kaffeenddabar nobody answers in there - it's a ghost town07:58
arpwatchrunning "exim4" just spits some junk at me07:58
dabaRnocloud: mine did not in win neither, but does this since warty, and in debian, I think, I never shut down debian:)07:58
iiiearsubotu forget xwindows07:58
ubotui forgot xwindows, iiiears07:58
kaffeenddabaR I do have a 64 bit system btw07:59
ray_anyone familiar with xfce?07:59
dabaRkaffeend: it is called patience:P07:59
benplautray_: somewhat...07:59
kaffeendwhatever07:59
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dabaRkaffeend: just wait there, or something, or ask here again, I really dont know about that package...07:59
ray_benplaut, do you know how to get things to start when xfce starts?07:59
glickis there anyway i can make it so the user cant shutdown the machine?08:00
benplautray_: nope :P08:00
nocloud dabaR: did the click occur in previous versions of ubuntu?08:00
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iiiearsubotu xwinman is Freedom of choice. Window managers for "The X Windows System"http://www.plig.org/xwinman/08:00
ubotuokay, iiiears08:00
benplautthat's one of the main reasons i stopped using it08:00
dabaRsupernix: oh, you mean *the* problem with that, oh yeah, sure I know how to fix "the problem" :P08:00
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nickrudarpwatch, hm, I'd suggest what I'm using now, cuz I'm too lazy to look all that stuff up again: evolution, and have it get and drop mail. Sometimes I regret dropping my debian install, because I did this stuff once and it worked forever.08:00
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supernixdabaR: anyone that knows anything about the mozilla issue will know the answer08:01
glickalso how can i edit my gnome menu08:01
dabaRthere is a mozilla issue?08:01
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supernixYes08:01
supernixI just installed it08:01
dabaRglick: smeg. /msg ubotu smeg08:01
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supernixand it can't find the xul file I think messenger.xul was it08:02
arpwatchnickrud, ok I do use evolution as well for my general email account, but in redhat 5.1  I could use sendmail to send mail directly from the console somehow08:02
dabaRsupernix: and it has a message on the title bar, find out about the mozilla problem with ubuntu?08:02
iiiearsglick - your gnome applications menu? - amaranth's "smeg" simple menu editor for gnome.08:02
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supernixit wont start08:02
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glickiiiears, i have to to install smeg?08:02
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dabaRiiiears: now with magical system menu editing capabilities..:)08:03
monsterrorCan someone help me install IRSSI? I tried apt-get but it says the package isn't available.08:03
iiiearsIt's a very handy app.08:03
dabaRglick: no, you dont have to...08:03
iiiearsAwesome. (yep, californian. - lol)08:03
dabaRmonsterror: did you try irssi in a terminal?08:03
glickisnt there a simple way to do it through gnome? why do i need a third party app to edit my menus?08:03
monsterrorNo I didnt, and that would be my problem.08:03
arumonsterror: it was already installed here08:03
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dabaRthere is in some installations of the gnome menu, like the warty one, or the debian sarge one.08:04
aaronclo08:04
dabaRnot the hoary one, tho, glick .08:04
aaronchow do I change the keyboard layout in the terminal08:04
aaronc?08:04
direwolfyo08:04
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dabaRhaha, good stuff that monsterror.08:04
arpwatch:)08:04
direwolflayered tech, stop08:04
benplaut!xfce08:05
ubotuxfce is probably a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/08:05
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arpwatchnickrud, I don't know any other way to explain what I'm trying to do, because I'm not that good at linux to begin with, and I haven't used it in 7yrs08:05
dabaRdirewolf: what?08:05
glickanyone know how i can disable a users ability to shutdown the system through gnome?08:05
dabaRarpwatch, just one email message?08:05
arpwatchyeah I just want to send one message via postfix/sendmail/exim to a friend08:06
arpwatchor at least my own account08:06
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dabaRyou could type out a file, and then mail receivingaddress@isp.org < file, that sends the file to receiving address from not sure which email address.08:06
ray_xfce is gnome done right....so they say08:07
arpwatchI could dig up my rh 5.1 distro and do it in 5 minutes, heh08:07
arpwatchhmm08:07
benplautthey got a few things very wrong08:07
nickruddabaR, except, there's no mail command here08:07
dabaRmailx?08:07
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nickrudno08:07
dabaRhas to be.08:07
dabaRits a unix.08:07
nickrudheh08:07
dabaRyou sure?08:07
dabaRcause on this debian there is one on default, and I used it on warty b4...08:08
nickrudmail<tab> gets me  nothing08:08
dabaRjust type in mail and hit enter.08:08
nickrudbreezy08:08
dabaRyoure usuing breezy?08:08
nickrudno such command :)08:08
dabaRwell, then, maybe that is why it is not there, although, that is weird, for sure.08:08
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dabaRglick, from gdm?08:09
glickdabaR, from gdm and from inside gnome when you logout you have the option08:09
ray_how do i make applications start at boot in xfce08:10
dabaRglick, approzimately, since my gnome panel and menu are different. System>Admin, or prefs, or Appls>System Tools, then look for login screen manager08:10
dabaRray_: start at boot, or start at login?08:10
ray_dabaR, sorry login08:10
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dabaRin there, there should be a security tab. see if secure actions menu is checked off.08:11
nickruddabaR, yeah, I'm trying breezy since the topic no longer uses uppercase when telling us not to :)08:11
dabaRray_: not sure, IO used to ask at #xfce when I used that.08:11
dabaRoh, wow, it really does not:)08:11
ray_dabaR, yeah i think they are all asleep08:11
glickok cool08:12
dabaRray_: look for a xfce-sessions in the preferences/system tools, or such menu.08:12
glickthanks08:12
dabaRglick: hows that work?08:12
glickdabaR, ima try it08:12
dabaRwerd08:12
dabaR:)08:12
dabaRI need to go to sleep so I can wake up at 6:30, and work tech support through chat:)08:13
dabaRwhich is the same I do here...so boring a life...08:13
nickrudheh08:13
dabaRjj, I haev fun all the time, and even when helping ppl I learn so much...08:13
dabaRhalf this stuff I dont know before you ask, and I look it all up...so I know for myself when I need it.08:14
dabaRok, night.08:14
ray_brb'08:15
direwolfsometimes i despise the internet08:15
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dabaRdirewolf: you are confusing.08:15
nickrudgood night, dabaR :)08:15
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johanbrHi. Does anyone know why a file that's supposedly text can only be displayed by "more", with all other programs just giving me binary garbage?08:16
dabaR direwolf> layered tech, stop08:16
dabaRsee ya nickrud .08:16
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direwolfi just dont why people cant keep to themselves, that is all08:17
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ray_benplaut, i figured it out08:17
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z|banditowhat is the process popsquares?08:18
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ray_how do i start nautilus without opening the file-browser just the desktop?08:19
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nickrudray_, you can try nautilus --no-default-window08:20
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LinuxDolthow would you go about creating your own local repository?08:20
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direwolfwhats up with that08:20
ray_nickrud, thank you08:20
nickrudLinuxDolt, apt-proxy is good, and can lead you into some other methods08:21
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rattyanyone know how to find an old friend??08:21
nickrudapt-cache search old-friend08:22
mustafuheh08:22
apprenticeon myspace maybe ratty08:22
rattydo you know if its poss to find out her phone no.08:23
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_olafwww.whitepages.com08:23
kaffeendcan someone please show me how to format my hard druve?08:23
_olafsearch by name, reverse phone, reverse addy08:23
_olafamong other things08:23
kaffeenddrive*08:23
rattyil try that site08:23
direwolfwow, impressive08:23
gpdwhen did this turn into #stalking08:23
ray_kaffeend, go to bootdisk.com and get a dos floppy ...boot to it and format08:24
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kaffeendray_ I don't have a floppy drive08:24
nickrudLinuxDolt, dpkg-scanpackages is also very useful for a few packages you maintain locally.08:24
h08817my mouse won't work in ubuntu are there drivers i can get?08:24
apprenticewell imon #slalking if u need help08:24
gpdkaffeend: how basic are we talking?08:24
direwolfhahaha someone hacked me08:25
h08817how do u know?08:25
direwolfim gettingsent to google.dk08:25
kaffeendgpd sorry?08:25
ray_kaffeend, ok scratch that08:25
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kumaranhi08:25
gpdkaffeend: well do you know about fdisk / mkfs / anything?08:25
h08817my mouse won't work in ubuntu08:25
ray_kaffeend, have you tried setting you bios up to boot to cdrom08:26
kaffeendgpd very Basic then :s08:26
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kaffeendray_ yes08:26
ray_kaffeend, and xp still wont boot?08:26
kaffeendray_ correct08:26
kaffeendit's still on my HDD ray_08:26
ray_kaffeend, yeah but you should still bea able to boot08:27
kaffeendbut it's missing a file from the ubuntu install08:27
h08817any idea where i can get drivers for a logitech mouse?08:27
rattyis there any other way to find her tried whitepages08:27
direwolfgot past router, port scanned my local address, tried a dos ....08:27
kaffeendas in, when I performed the ubuntu install08:27
ray_kaffeend, ive never had xp not boot to the cd no matter what the deal is...and im A+ certified08:27
kaffeendhmmm...08:28
ray_kaffeend, ubuntu wouldnt just delete windows files08:28
kaffeendray_ well, it checks my hardware config and then just dies or freezes08:28
pussfellermost mice should be covered08:28
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mustafumy xp installs went that way...with a bad power supply of course :/08:28
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kaffeendray_ my hd was unpartitioned before the ubuntu install, that's why I thought the two things were related08:29
glickits nice to see that adobe is no longer ignoring linux and finally provided a nice up-to-date acrobat reader08:29
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h08817wow the ubuntu home page is down08:29
glickthe sons-o-bitches08:29
kaffeendmy partitioning of the HDD08:29
ray_kaffeend, yeah u are right that might be the issue08:29
h08817otherwise i would say that u could get the tutorial about the smartbootmanager08:29
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kaffeendso I need to install windows on a clean drive and partition at the same time08:30
h08817boot to cd with a floppy08:30
ray_kaffeend, does the ubuntu disk boot08:30
kaffeendray_ yep08:30
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ray_kaffeend, so partition using the ubuntu setup08:30
anacrondoes ubuntu support ups devices well?08:31
kaffeendray_ partition again with the same installation setup?08:31
ray_kaffeend, yeah but dont install just partition08:31
kaffeendray_ wow I can do that? hmmm...08:32
ray_kaffeend, you have the coice to manually partition08:32
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kaffeendray_ pity I don't know anything about partitioning, heh?08:32
direwolfdoh08:32
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ray_kaffeend, if you just go into the partioner and delete all partitions windows should boot08:33
nickrudkaffeend, you're just trying to get your windows partition to boot? (after an ubuntu install)08:33
kaffeendray_ excuse my ignorance, but where can I find the partitioner?08:33
kaffeendnickrud yep08:34
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glickits amazing how much faster xfce loads compared to gnome08:34
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nickrudkaffeend, join #flood, I have a generic grub stanza you can add that will boot most windows installs08:34
ray_kaffeend, hey dont beat yourself up......go through the menus you will get to where it has a partition dialog......you can choose manually partition08:34
kaffeendnickrud okay thanks08:34
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kaffeendnickrud I must confess that I feel like I've been handed sacred chinese texts :s08:39
kaffeendnickrud keyword being Chinese08:40
nickrudlol08:40
nickrudsacred, more like, I can read these ;P08:40
kaffeendas in wtf is this shit? :P08:40
zer0how do you view files on other hard drives? i went to Places -> Computer but i can only see cd drive and floppy drive08:40
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nickrudkaffeend, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  ; then add the text I gave you to the end of that file.08:42
kaffeendnickrud I was jk before dude08:42
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kaffeendnickrud thanks mate08:42
nickrudah, so, I don't have to walk you through it all, thank you ;P08:42
anacronhow good pc i need for 686 kernel?08:42
anacronis 400mhz alright?08:42
nickrudanacron, what does uname -a say?08:43
anacronnickrud: im not in that machine right now08:43
aaronchow do I change my locale for date and time purposes?08:43
anacronaaronc: with date?08:44
Madpilotaaronc: right-click on the clock, Adjust Date & Time08:44
ilba7ris there an integrated development environment under gnome like kdevelop?08:44
nickrudanacron, if uname -m says i686, you'll be ok08:44
anacronnickrud: okay08:44
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aaroncanacron: from the terminal08:44
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aaroncmadpilot: from the terminal08:44
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nickrudaaronc, dpkg-reconfigure locales?08:45
aaronchow do I adjust my location settings08:45
anacronaaronc: did you check what date says08:45
nickrudaaronc, dpkg-reconfigure locales is the base stuff08:45
anacronnickrud: that's just a keyboard layout?08:46
anacronleast for me it is08:46
Madpilotaaronc: hmm, sorry, no idea!08:46
nickrudaaronc, then, when you log in, you can choose a language you've configured from the login screen08:46
nickrudanacron, no, that is not keyboard, that is display08:46
anacronnickrud: yeah anyways that won't affect you time settings08:47
aaroncokay thanks I'' try logging out08:47
nickrudanacron, sorry, then tzconfig is what you want08:47
anacronaaronc: tzconfig08:47
anacron:D08:47
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anacrondamn he got away...08:48
transgress_i have discovered something08:48
nickrudit was tab completion, I swear08:48
transgress_xchat-text is no good08:48
transgress_brb08:48
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anacroni prefer irssi :)08:48
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TestDummyWhoa. 462 people, nuts o_o08:49
TestDummyEr, hm08:49
TestDummyI'm forgetting, isn't DMA disabled by default for optical drives in Ubuntu?08:49
brokeboyI've read the unoffical guide and did what it said about installing shit but i cant get any programs to work.  and yes i got ubuntu today.08:50
nickrudbrokeboy, so, you linux savvy?08:50
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brokeboyhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:50
PurpleMotion!ubuntuguide08:51
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.08:51
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PurpleMotionplease, do NOT recommend the ubuntuguide08:51
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brokeboythese mutherfuckers dont know what they're talking about08:51
nickrudbrokeboy, use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as repositories08:51
PurpleMotionthese what?08:51
PurpleMotionwelcome to ignore, asshole.08:51
TestDummyOuch.08:52
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nickrudbrokeboy, it has it's problems, but it has it's goodies as weel08:52
glickhey is there a way i can force my sudo privs to expire?08:52
TestDummySo, yeah, I forget if it's disabled or not.08:52
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PurpleMotionerm08:52
iiiears"exit"08:52
PurpleMotionholdon08:52
PurpleMotionmethinks i jumped the gun08:52
PurpleMotionbrokeboy:  are you saying that the ubuntuguide failed you? (those mf'ers)?08:53
ray_no sound in gaim : (08:53
brokeboythey told me to change my repositorys but all they had was two lines diffrence and they said this : ## Backports08:53
brokeboydeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted08:53
brokeboydeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted08:53
PurpleMotionray_:  go to custom command, and put in play %s08:53
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PurpleMotionbrokeboy:  that's why we dont use the ubuntuguide08:53
PurpleMotiongo here08:53
PurpleMotionwatch ubotu08:53
ray_PurpleMotion, play %s or just s08:53
PurpleMotion!repositories08:53
ubotuwell, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:53
synnubuntuguide is no help for anyone new08:53
brokeboywhat did that script do?08:53
PurpleMotionray_:  play %s08:53
ray_ok08:53
TestDummyWhoa.08:54
PurpleMotionthere are actually official backports repositories08:54
PurpleMotion!backports08:54
ubotuI heard backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted08:54
brokeboywhat the hell is that?08:54
nickrudbrokeboy, that ubotu link is the good, but the one I gave you is officially canonical :)08:54
TestDummyHeh, the Wiki assumes hdc is the cd drive.08:54
TestDummyIt's hdb for me :|08:54
TestDummyI think I just answered my own question08:54
HrdwrBoBTestDummy: hdb?08:54
HrdwrBoByou're on crack08:54
TestDummyEr08:54
PurpleMotiondeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted08:54
TestDummyYeah it's getting late.08:54
glickanyone here using ubuntu as a server?08:54
PurpleMotionthats what you want, brokeboy08:54
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HrdwrBoBthe CD should really be on a seperate channel08:54
PurpleMotionsorry for jumping the gun earlier08:54
HrdwrBoBthe CD should be hdc or hdd08:54
TestDummyWell, the way mine is08:55
HrdwrBoBand the hard drive hda08:55
ray_PurpleMotion, didnt work08:55
glickor is that a role best reserved for debian sarge?08:55
TestDummyThe first drive (hda) and cd drive (hdb) are on one, then the second drive is on the secondard channel, so it's hdc.08:55
cafuego_glick: debian is proven...08:55
PurpleMotionray_:  hrmm, you dont have play?!?08:55
TestDummySounds pretty logical to me08:55
PurpleMotionray_:  sound in general works, right?08:55
ray_PurpleMotion, no it said i didnt08:55
ray_PurpleMotion, yeah08:55
TestDummyI really know it could be set up better,  but  space is tight, small case.08:55
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nickrudoptomization welcome :)08:56
cafuego_Sheesh, even my 12 year old EXTERNAL scsi hdd is bigger then that ;-)08:56
PurpleMotionray_:  finding the package, holdon08:57
TestDummyBleh, I used to have Ubuntu on a 20GB08:57
nickrudI have two scsi disks on the shelf, and I'm looking at raiding them soon :)08:57
TestDummyThen it died, and I lost my bootloader. But I fixed that, tossed in a 10 and yeah.08:57
PurpleMotionokay, i give up08:57
TestDummyI'm insane :(08:57
PurpleMotionwhat fsckin package is play part of?08:58
cafuego_TestDummy: Mb, not Gb.08:58
TestDummyThey made 10MB hard drives in 1999?08:58
HrdwrBoBnickrud: haha08:58
HrdwrBoBnickrud: time to throw stuff out08:58
glickdamn i have soo much collective diskspace i dont know what to do with it all :(08:58
TestDummyWait08:58
TestDummyI'm lost08:58
cafuego_TestDummy: Mine's a 20MB scsi08:58
TestDummyThe colours, they are getting all mixed up :S08:58
Madpilotbah, my two optical drives are hda & hdb - my only HDD is a 120Gb SATA - sda...08:58
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glick300 gigs connected to my laptop alone08:58
glick200 gigs on other servers08:59
cafuego_glick: iso mirror08:59
iiiearsPurpleMotion - aptitude or synaptic "play" search should turn up something08:59
HrdwrBoBI have three 200gb disks in a raid array which is full08:59
TestDummyFor some reason, I remember Flash drives being sda :|08:59
HrdwrBoBI need another two08:59
TestDummyI'm not too good at remembering things :08:59
jut3xshi08:59
HrdwrBoBTestDummy: that's correct08:59
HrdwrBoBTestDummy: they are sdX08:59
MadpilotHrdwrBoB: dare I ask what's on that much disc space?08:59
Madpilot;)08:59
TestDummyThen why did somebody just say they had a SATA drive on sda?09:00
glickcafuego, eh09:00
iiiearslol@madpilot09:00
LinuxDoltis it normal for wine to complain about this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:00
synnMadpilot: If you have to ask, you probably already know.  ;)09:00
glicki got a coupla sparc5s with 20 gigs between them09:00
LinuxDoltand then not run the game09:00
PurpleMotionthat didnt work09:00
glicka 10 gig p2 400 that i plan to put smoothwall on one of these days09:00
MadpilotTestDummy: my (only) HDD is SDA09:00
TestDummyHeh, I have an old p2 40009:01
TestDummyBut it doesn't like Ubuntu :(09:01
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TestDummyOr any other Linux distro for tha tmatter09:01
Belutzhow do i change the mouse cursor theme?09:01
glickTestDummy, why not?09:01
glickusually thats the best supported hardware in linux09:01
TestDummyI dunno, somebody said something about older hardware and what not..09:01
TestDummyI ran Warty on there before, now it doesn't even work09:01
glickolder hardware is best supported09:01
iiiearsIs LinuxDoIt - does he need glx installed for his card by reconfiguring the xserver or would he need to use synaptic to d/l it?09:01
TestDummyBut I didn't come here about that :|09:02
glickwhat particularly dosnt work on it09:02
TestDummyI should really run memtest86 or something, poke around a bit more.09:02
glicki figure ill use one of my sparcs as a webserver09:02
TestDummy(It installs and everything, the kernel doesn't start. :( )09:02
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glickor email server09:02
TestDummyBut like I said, I didn't come here to ask about that :D09:02
glicki dont kow yet09:02
PurpleMotionray_:09:02
ray_PurpleMotion, yeah09:03
PurpleMotionray_:  sudo apt-get install sox09:03
tha_gamemasteri need help fixing my xorg... i broke it ^_^09:03
PurpleMotionray_:  then play will work09:03
synnSo, it's stupid noob idea time!09:03
PurpleMotion*uNF*09:03
glicki have more computers than i know what to do with09:03
TestDummyMy laptop dislikes xorg :(09:03
iiiearsLinuxDoIt - i am kinda new to linux. - just curious how many frames per second does the command "glxgears" show you when you type it in a console?09:03
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glickbetween my and my roomie we have 13 computers in the house and not one runs MS09:03
tha_gamemasteriiiears my glxgears does nearly 400009:03
synnI'm not a big fan of Gnome, I want to install fvwm.  I have NO idea what to do.  I've been told the learning curve is pretty steep.  Good idea or no?09:03
iiiearsLinuxD, - glxgears is the test app for glx extensions.09:03
tha_gamemasterglick is my hero, i'm the only non-MS in my house09:04
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TestDummyopinion*09:04
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glickheh09:04
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ray_PurpleMotion, THANKS IT WORKED09:04
Madpilotglick: cool. cluster them to crunch folding/seti stuff!09:04
PurpleMotionanytime09:04
iiiearstha_, great numbers :)09:04
glickmy roomie runs an outdated slackware on his desktop09:04
glickhe never updates or upgrades09:04
glickhes like at 9.009:04
glicknow like 10.5 is out09:05
crispynix-v6synn: try kde first, and if you like the tweaking aspects, try Enlightenment. If you like editing text files for configuration, then fvwm might be for you.09:05
tha_gamemasteriiiears thanks! but my xorg is broken right now..09:05
topyliiiiears: i get 311 FPS :)09:05
nickrudglick, so, he's getting work done, right ;P09:05
laserlinePurpleMotion?  Your not the old school tracker purpleMotion are you09:05
iiiearsReally? - thats awful. - has someone tried to help.09:05
synnA friend of mine is running his brand new laptop off an old gentoo live cd....09:05
PurpleMotionlaserline:  no, but he's an idol of mine09:05
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topyliiiiears: nah, it's an old matrox card which i love. i don't care much about doom3 and such09:06
tha_gamemasteriiiears not yet. what's the line? dpkg-reconfigure xorg? is it x-org? yes i'm using sudo09:06
glicki dont particularly like my roomie09:06
iiiearstopyli, - yep - a prosavage card here my numbers are about the same.09:06
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nickrudlol09:06
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iiiearssudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:06
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glickhe ask me to do the dishes and i told him to screw himself that i am never doing the dishes,09:06
tha_gamemasteriiiears THANKS!09:07
iiiearsCool09:07
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transgre1shey hooligans09:07
topyliiiiears: good enough for nethack :)09:07
jut3xshlo09:07
laserlineglick: at least you're not throwing dishes at him (yet)09:07
nickrudglick, trust me, women you want will want you to do the dishes; learn09:07
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iiiearslol - roflmao - "" -  very depressed a few nights ago and checked that out.09:08
PurpleMotionoh gawd its glick again ;)09:08
PurpleMotion<-- computer__guru, glick09:08
glicknickrud, for woman its different, in fact im a clean dude, but my roomie is non-coperative, and is an all around ass, so im like screw you dude, im not lifting a finger to clean anything other than my own room09:08
laserlineoh snap son09:09
glickso broken keyboards, and trash and dishes pile the living room a mile high09:09
nickrudglick, been there, too. I just had to throw that curveball in :)09:09
iiiearsjust kick the dirty clothes to his side of the room ;)09:09
glicki will never vacuum, and never clean anything or take out the trash09:09
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glickhim and his nasty animal of a girlfriend09:10
glicki cant tell if she tries to be nice or condescending09:11
glickeither way she annoys me09:11
Belutztopyli: hai again :D do you know how to change the mouse cursor theme?09:11
iiiearssometimes the student union is the only escape.09:12
glickheh09:12
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nickrudI spent many hours there09:12
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glickhehe i work at the learning center of my university, i hit on some hot bitches there all the time09:12
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glicklol my boss is like "look dave you cant hit on students that come here lookin for tutoring it might make them uncomfortavle"09:13
topyliBelutz: there's a package called gcursor in universe09:13
Belutztopyli: ok, thanks for the info :)09:13
glickand im like "screw you, i do what i want! Im your boss you hear!"09:13
iiiearstha_gamemaster - VESA is always available. - just tweak it until it cries "uncle" and gives you accel09:13
sinfernodoes anyone have any advice on installing multiple versions of cedega09:13
nickrudtha_gamemaster, heh, breezy?09:14
tha_gamemasternickrud lol no ... confuzzled ^_^09:14
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tha_gamemasteriiiears vesa? no it's not a startx error, it just says there's no startx command09:14
nickrud:)09:14
glickdamn zone edit doesnt do portfowarding and cloaking at the same time :(09:15
glickdoes either one or the other09:15
iiiearsno startx ?????09:15
tha_gamemasteriiiears yea!09:15
iiiears!xserver09:15
uboturumour has it, xserver is to reconfigure your Xserver, type into a terminal "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the "")09:15
nickrudtha_gamemaster, no mailx either09:16
Madpilot!info startx09:16
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cmijoahow I read external mail into mutt?09:16
glickwhats happening?09:16
glickwhat does that mean?09:16
Madpilotwhat does what mean, glick?09:16
glickthat global notice?09:16
tha_gamemasternickrud i have mailx09:16
nickrudtha_gamemaster, breezy?09:17
nickrudI don't09:17
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tha_gamemasterglick i think it means the ubuntu channel will be down for a little while09:17
glickNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!109:17
tha_gamemasterbrb guys, ... if there is still a channel ^_^09:17
iiiearstha_, - lspci ls=list pci=devices should give an answer. - match the info given. (i added a leading zero to the bus address when it was a single digit.)09:17
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glickis it for all of freenode or just this channel?09:18
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monsterrorCan someone here give me some fluxbox help?09:19
Madpilotwhat was in that lilo message? I assumed it was more testing quasi-spam, and killed the tab without opening it. wasn't it?09:19
iiiears!fluxbox09:19
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, iiiears09:19
iiiearsdoh09:19
monsterror!fluxbox?09:19
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, monsterror09:19
monsterror!fluxbox09:19
ubotumonsterror: No idea09:19
Madpilot!info fluxbox09:20
iiiearsgive me a sec - not too familiar with it. gotta be a link on the ubuntu wiki.09:20
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB09:20
nickrudMadpilot, that was a warning that this channel will be in serious flux for a bit09:20
Madpilotnickrud: ack. thanks, that'll teach me to kill tabs without reading them!09:20
iiiearsnice but little help09:20
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tha_gamemasterhey channel is still up cool09:21
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sinfernodoes anyone have any advice on installing multiple versions of cedega09:22
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nickrudtest09:23
Madpilot???09:23
iiiearsi can't find a link for fluxbox09:23
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Madpilotin the wiki? neither could I09:24
tha_gamemastersinferno wish i did... i'm not sure it's possible09:24
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iiiearstha_gamemaster - did "lspci" give you any helpful info?09:25
nickrudiiiears, you can start at http://freshmeat.net/projects/fluxbox/09:25
nickrudonly 2 points off :)09:25
glickam i the only one that wants one of those new japanese sex androids?09:26
monsterrorI dont think there particurally designed for sex09:26
iiiearsthanks nickrud - got the impression he has already installed it and has some other problem.09:26
nickrudglick, probably, within a 2 mile radius09:26
n8lewisis there a way to mount a .iso file as a cd drive?09:26
tha_gamemasteriiiears my video card is there no problem... is there another command to start x from console ? everything is installed....09:26
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sinfernotha_gamemaster, cause like i know that daoc works with cedega 4.0 but i have 4.409:26
glickmonsterror, are you kidding! this is the japanese we're talking about, of course it was made for sex09:26
sinfernotha_gamemaster, and for the sake of my other games i dont want to have to completely roll back09:27
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iiiearsxfce4 works pretty well and is also light on resources. - add the xfmedia player and you should be good to go.09:27
glickwe are talking about the most kinky and perverse people on the planet09:27
sinfernotha_gamemaster, i know theres an option in p2p but i dont use p2p09:27
tha_gamemastersinferno for some odd reason my transgaming account was like deleted or something... i've got to figure that out... i hate how diff versions are compat withdiff stuff09:27
nickrudcollege students?09:27
tha_gamemastersinferno yea i don't like p2p either09:27
n8lewissweet just wanted to know so I won't lose any thing if I mess up09:28
glickim in college09:28
yahalomhey guys. is there an option to play the live CD of a projector? any experience with this?09:28
n8lewisis there a way to mount a .iso file as a cd drive?09:28
thundrcleezeyahalom, you mean use the projector as a display device?09:28
monsterrorI knew how to mount an .iso on Windows, but I don't know if they make anything like Daemon Tools for Linux09:28
synnI've been looking for a specific set of icons, they almost seem to be set up for a Mac G5-type display.  They're dark, and the only bright color is green.  Anybody have any idea what I'm talking about here?09:28
iiiearstha_gamemaster - VESA will give you a gui desktop and firefox. (not too much for gaming at all. #$%^)09:28
sinfernomonsterror, just mount /path/to/file.iso /location/to/mount09:29
rob^monsterror, its called "mount"09:29
Madpilot!themes09:29
ubotumethinks themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/09:29
nickrudn8lewis, mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso09:29
sinfernomonsterror, do mount -o loop /path/09:29
sinfernoi think09:29
Madpilotsynn: see ubotu's post ^^^  ?09:29
sinfernoisnt that it?09:29
thundrcleezeyahalom, if it uses a standard monitor output it shouldn't be a problem09:29
monsterrorguys guys guys... I dont need the mounting help09:29
yahalomthundrcleeze: yes] 09:29
n8lewisnickrud, thanks09:29
iiiearstry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  again - it will work tho it is a real pain to get accel working with ati09:30
sinfernomonsterror, if you have a valid iso you should be able to mount it just like daemon tools09:30
tha_gamemasteriiiears i want a desktop i can use for pvr... that's all really... but vesa is a driver, i'm still not getting you09:30
nickrudn8lewis, the first google hit gave me a great cut and paste :)09:30
sinfernomonsterror, linux can mount isos no problem09:30
thundrcleezeyahalom, I mean if the projector has a standard monitor input.09:30
synnNo, I didn't, but I do now!  I think I saw them on gnome-look, but I'm not sure....wish me luck!09:30
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n8lewislol09:30
yahalomthundrcleeze: meaning as that he plugs the projector in the monitor port? he does.09:30
glicki dont knwo much about anything about applications programming and i graduate in 9 months09:30
iiiearstha - dpkg-reconfigure will work. it is just findiing the right settings for your card.09:30
glickthe sad fact is that i may not get to use python much in my career :(09:31
yahalomthundrcleeze: or u dont mean that?09:31
monsterrorSo could anyone find any info on Fluxbox/09:31
iiiearsi am going out on a limb and guessing that lspci will give you the info about the bus id address.09:31
thundrcleezeyahalom, then it should just work as a regular monitor.  All you should have to do is set what resolution it runs at.09:31
tha_gamemasteriiiears i'm not having setting problems... but there is no command to STARTX... it's like... xorg is installed, windowmanagers are installed, but no startx....09:31
iiiearsi don't think xorg is being given the right bus address.09:32
nickrudtha_gamemaster, it'll come back09:32
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tha_gamemasternickrud how ? @_@09:32
iiiearstha_gamemaster - now see what you have done. now i am confuzzled.09:33
_youngcoderlol09:33
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nickrudtha_gamemaster, it's in xbase-clients. That's in flux right now (breezy) but I would be seriously amazed if it wasn't fixed soon.09:34
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monsterrorYou know, not having a slit in fluxbox is annoying. I keep minimizing things, just  so I can never restore it09:34
kaizerbillimoriahello09:34
iiiearswhat error message are you seeing? - does it attempt to start or just show one line of text "no such command"?09:34
youngcoderkaizerbillimoria, hello!09:35
tha_gamemasteriiiears "bash - startx command not found"09:35
kaizerbillimoriai need some help with ubuntu Super user can anyone help me out?09:35
kaizerbillimoriahello youngcoder!09:35
youngcoderkaizerbillimoria, what is your question?09:35
kaizerbillimoriathx youngcoder09:35
yahalomthundrcleeze: thanx09:35
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kaizerbillimoriawhen i boot intoubuntu i login using my name09:36
youngcoderok09:36
thundrcleezeyahalom, is he having troubles right now?09:36
kaizerbillimoriahowever if i want to log in as super user in shell it asks me for password09:36
kaizerbillimoriawhat password do i give?09:36
thundrcleezeand no problem, yahalom09:36
thundrcleezekaizerbillimoria, your user password.09:36
nickrudkaizerbillimoria, try using your own password09:36
kaizerbillimorialet me rephrase that youngcoder..my bad!!09:37
kaizerbillimoriasee09:37
youngcoderkaizerbillimoria, the same as your username09:37
kaizerbillimoriawhatever password i give09:37
kaizerbillimoriait says wrong password09:37
kaizerbillimoriaor invalid password09:37
kaizerbillimoriadoes that mean...09:37
kaizerbillimoriathat my default log in is by root?09:37
iiiears!rootsudo09:37
ubotuit has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:37
nickrud0-009:37
tha_gamemasteriiiears hehe confuzed? ^_^09:37
iiiearstha_gamemaster - Is gnome your default window manager?09:38
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thundrcleezekaizerbillimoria, see ubotu's link09:38
ws011hai09:38
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tha_gamemasteriiiears no, i disabled gnome and uninstalled it, i only have 1.8GB for / and gnome is about that big ;)09:39
monsterrorGah, Gedit is taking forever to load09:39
kaizerbillimoriathx ubotu, thundrcleeze09:39
iiiearstha_gamemaster - ah... now there is hope. - new info. :)09:39
thundrcleezeno problem, kaizerbillimoria09:39
tha_gamemasteriiiears i have flwm and icewm-lite installed, and xorg-server and xorg-common, xfonts-75dpi, etc, but no command to init X... should i try init 5 ?09:40
ws011haiiii09:40
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iiiearstha_gamemaster - no harm in trying it.09:41
LinuxDoltwhoohoo!09:41
ColonelKernelyou know ubuntu really spoiled me09:41
youngcoderhiyas LinuxDolt09:41
ColonelKernelnow I use ubuntu for desktop and centos for server09:41
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PurpleMotionwhy do they put deprecated shit into new kernels.. kinda retarded dont ya think09:41
ColonelKernelI discovered the breezy kernels - which work great btw09:41
ColonelKernelI am haivng a problem figuring out something in the kernel config09:42
iiiearstha_gamemaster - let me apologize for not asking what window manager you are using.09:42
PurpleMotionwhat?09:42
PurpleMotionim building a kernel right now :D09:42
nickrudmy god, there is no xinit in my path :)09:42
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PurpleMotionmy god im blind without my glasses09:42
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nickrudtha_gamemaster, you may not be here, but I see that :)09:43
PurpleMotionhow did i live without these things09:43
iiiearsnickrud - lol - okay, okay, - i am a newb. - pitch in where you can. - lol09:43
ColonelKernelwell im trying to figure out function alignment09:43
ColonelKernelthe help on it says power of n in the beginning then it gives a straight integer09:43
ColonelKerneland its confusing09:43
kaizerbillimoriaubotu i need more information are youthere?09:44
ubotukaizerbillimoria: what are you talking about?09:44
ColonelKernelAlign the start of functions to the next power-of-two greater than n,   09:44
ColonelKernel   skipping up to n bytes.  For instance, 32 aligns functions              09:44
ColonelKernel   to the next 32-byte boundary, but 24 would align to the next            09:44
ColonelKernel   32-byte boundary only if this can be done by skipping 23 bytes or less. 09:44
ColonelKernel   Zero means use compiler's default.09:44
kaizerbillimoriaubotu: this is my first step in to the linux world.09:44
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, kaizerbillimoria09:44
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ColonelKernelWHoah - im very sorry I thought that would be one line09:44
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youngcoderubotu, you gave him the rootsudo link09:44
ubotuyoungcoder: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:44
kaizerbillimoriaubotu: i am interested in learning bash shell scripting. can you point me to some good bash shell tutorials?09:45
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, kaizerbillimoria09:45
ColonelKernelanyhow - is the number I punch in there gonna be a power of two, or the straight integer I want to use?09:45
nickrudiiiears, we all are newbs, unless we're arrogant or James Troup or equiv. I can live with that :)09:45
ws011hajii09:45
ws011jiakjiksl09:45
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glickhey where is stdio.h in the syste,?09:45
glicksystem09:45
PurpleMotion!root09:45
uboturumour has it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:45
iiiears(was hoping to join the kernel-de team next tues. - roguesh grin)09:46
nickrud!find stdioi.h09:46
PurpleMotionis it /usr/include ?09:46
nickrud!find stdio.h09:46
nickrudsorry09:46
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kaizerbillimoriaFriends, i need a pointer to a good tutorial on bash shell scripting. CAn anyone help me out? A link on the www will be helpful09:46
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youngcoderkaizerbillimoria, one sec let me grab a link for you09:47
PurpleMotionkaizerbillimoria:  there are entire books written.. bash ROCKS09:47
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'stdioi.h' returned no results.09:47
iiiearsbash.org????????09:47
kaizerbillimoriayoungcoder: thank you. This is my first attempt at bash shell scripting and linux!!09:47
PurpleMotionkaizerbillimoria:  good luck :)09:48
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Madpilotkaizerbillimoria: www.linuxcommand.org has starting bash scripting info - good stuff09:48
youngcoderkaizerbillimoria, im very noobish myself09:48
iiiearsfeel the power of the linux force09:48
nickrudubotu, you lied, you gave me Ubuntu Search of 'stdio.h' (6 shown; 42 total): (/usr/include/lam/tstdio.h) in devel/lam4-dev ;; (/usr/lib/perl/5.8.4/CORE/nostdio.h) in perl/perl ;; (/usr/include/isc/stdio.h) in libdevel/libbind-dev ;; (/usr/include/sfio/stdio.h) in universe/devel/sfio-dev ;; (/usr/share/cmix/shadow/stdio.h) in universe/devel/cmix ;; (/usr/share/splint/lib/stdio.h) in universe/devel/splint.09:48
ubotunickrud: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about09:48
youngcoderkaizerbillimoria, www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html09:48
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nickrudheh, talking to a bot (intelligent one anyway)09:49
PurpleMotionsomeone write this down09:49
PurpleMotionmake modules started at 3.48am09:49
kaizerbillimoriayoungcoder: Thanks a ton I shall go there now...09:49
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iiiearsthe linux documentation project is mecca09:50
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PurpleMotionim gonna flash my jornada 690 tomorrow and put familiar/opie on it09:50
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iiiearsjerusalem?09:50
PurpleMotion*gulp* conversion??09:50
tha_gamemasteriiiears ok so... i got x to init. /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc09:50
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kaizerbillimoriathank you all09:51
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tha_gamemasterhi glick09:52
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glickhi tha_gamemaster09:52
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PurpleMotionwell now09:52
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PurpleMotionTHAT was fsckin hairy09:52
AmaranthGuys, #ubuntu is closed until this finishes. ;)09:52
tha_gamemasterglick so it wasn't so bad...09:52
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Amaranthbecause you aren't going to be able to have a conversation09:53
tha_gamemasterAmaranth so should we leave?09:53
Amaranthunless this goes perfectly09:53
Amaranthno, you don't have to leave09:53
Amaranthit was a joke09:53
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Amaranthbut yeah, this isn't done yet09:53
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PurpleMotionit seems to be going pretty smoothe09:53
tha_gamemasterAmaranth lol i know09:53
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tha_gamemasterAmaranth i'm surprised i got in so fast09:53
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iceman-AMD64how to add KDE to ubuntu09:53
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Amaranthsomeone thinking clearer than me dropped the +j09:54
Tomcat_iceman-AMD64: Install kubuntu-desktop09:54
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Amarantherr, +J09:54
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PurpleMotioniceman-AMD64:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:54
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Amaranthi think it was freenode staff, actually09:54
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iiiearswhatch your firewall logs. match ip addresses against the freenode server names you know.09:54
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iiiearsHey that was fun. zombied XP desktops/hijacked gameservers for a dns poisoning?09:54
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tha_gamemasteriiiears woah you lost me coach ^_^09:54
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Amaranthiiiears: network is upgrading to a new ircd09:55
PurpleMotioniiiears aka paranoia boy09:55
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iceman-AMD64Does Americ's Army for linux work on 64 bit ?09:55
iiiearsin the bad old days of quake1 you could launch a distributed denial of service attack with an easily forged packet. - likely not too difficult with newer game servers.09:55
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PurpleMotionwell09:56
PurpleMotionforging packets has gotten harder, thank god09:56
tha_gamemasteriiiears ok so i got x to run, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but "no screens found"09:56
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(f_newton/#ubuntu) well is there any reason why you cant "borrow" rafb.net/paste?09:56
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iiiearsiceman - as i understand it not natively (please don't quote me) - it will run in an 32 bit chroot environment.09:57
(f_newton/#ubuntu) they do get washed yaknow09:57
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kaffeendwhere are all these ppl coming from?09:57
iceman-AMD64got to study that 32 bit chroot stuff ...09:57
nickrudhm09:57
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PurpleMotionthis one has tho09:57
f_newtonkaffeend, freenode is doing some major server changes09:57
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PurpleMotionsee09:57
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PurpleMotionthere it goes09:58
Amaranthwhee09:58
PurpleMotionhai, fsckers09:58
Amaranthtold you09:58
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nickrudkaffeend, the networks ops are hard at work, we just watch09:58
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Amaranthlook at the new idents09:58
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AmaranthN=foo, I=foo09:58
iiiearsHi09:58
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PurpleMotionwhat do they mean?09:58
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psurani!09:58
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psurani!w09:58
kaffeendf_newton it's quite annoying, isn't it?09:58
f_newtonhyperion09:58
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PurpleMotionoh09:58
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PurpleMotionfor ident and no ident09:58
PurpleMotionthat's gay09:58
PurpleMotionthe ~ did that anyways09:58
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Amaranthhttp://freenode.net/news.shtml <--what is happening09:59
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Amaranthoh, and the new cloaks09:59
PurpleMotionwe can cloak now?09:59
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f_newtonwell kaffeend why dont you msg lilo and tell him how upset you are that he is updating and maintaining his million dollar plus network is upsetting u09:59
Amaranthbut my cloak isn't updated09:59
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Amaranthhmm09:59
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AmaranthPurpleMotion: no09:59
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nickrudwhat's a cloak?09:59
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kaffeendf_newton uptight, are we? I never said I was upset09:59
Amaranthnickrud: "amaranth.user"09:59
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Amaranthubotu: is on the old servers still10:00
ubotuAmaranth: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:00
=== nickrud wants a 300 word essay :)
f_newtonno... I am not but a little consideration on your part since you pay nothing for all this technology10:00
Amaranthand will probably not rejoin once it dies10:00
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f_newtonoooh three hundred words....10:00
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kaffeendf_newton I didn't mean to say "Linux sucks and so does f_newton" or anything like that - Jeez10:01
tha_gamemasteriiiears heyas again @_@10:01
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f_newtonI didnt say you did, but you did say it was annoying to you that you were having to deal with this... annoyance10:01
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f_newtonand i was merely showing you how silly that was10:01
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iiiearscurious must be a setting to ignore join and part messages.10:02
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synnwow, holy netsplit10:02
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f_newtonI give out thousands of free meals every week rain  or shine and the people that come for them complain all the time about how I am not serving their needs as well as they expect10:02
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tha_gamemasteriiiears so you get my message about "no screens found" ?10:02
MadpilotMother of All Netsplits10:02
PurpleMotioni want purplemotion.user10:02
Amaranthsynn: server upgrades10:02
iiiearsno i didn't10:03
f_newtonI find that a little ingracious10:03
nickrudf_newton, I did that for years as well, and still do :)10:03
iiiearsgot it now tho.10:03
PurpleMotionor actually i guess now it will be user/purplemotion10:03
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f_newtongood for you !10:03
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tha_gamemasteriiiears ok so i got x to run, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but "no screens found"10:03
nickrudmy living, actually ;)10:03
f_newtonwhere at nickrud if I may ask?10:03
tha_gamemasteroh you got it now ?10:03
f_newtonwell I dont get paid for it10:03
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kaffeendf_newton I'm sorry that you're in a bad mood... but I believe I am free to be annoyed... I know it needs doing - it's for the best, yada yada yada, I am not an ungrateful prick as you might think, just tired and a little annoyed at the scrolling window text - didn't realize it was maintainence...10:03
nickrudcurrently san antonio, but seattle, san francisco, and other places over the years10:04
f_newtonas a matter of fact its just about impoverished me10:04
iiiearstha_gamemaster - going to apologize for not knowing how to help.10:04
nickrudf_newton, and you are absolutely right about it never being adequate for some10:04
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tha_gamemasteriiiears not your fault! no apologies necessary or even requested, thanks for listening! ^_^10:05
AmaranthThat's enough guys.10:05
f_newtonkaffeend, again you try to put your overinflated self awareness as my fault.    just drop it ok?   but try to remember that you are just a user here in cyber land and what the people who provide you with this service do is not good reason for you to be annoyed10:05
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synnAnd for anybody that caught it earlier, I'm looking for a specific icon pack...I can't find it, I've been to every link anyone's posted, and I've probably missed it.  The only one that I know of that looks like it is an OSX theme, but dark.10:05
iiiearsi am sorry - just too new at this only have tried 3 window managers. :?10:05

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