[12:00] <delire> DekaPink: muarharhar. not long now. not long..
[12:00] <Tarcastil> err, I'm not looking to see if I have a package installed
[12:00] <pcharky> delire: Thanks, i didn't use that one before, it quite fits my needs.. ;-)
[12:00] <_SWAT_> pcharky, sorry don't know about that? (and what do you actually mean)
[12:00] <Tarcastil> I'm trying to tell apt I have a package I installed without it
[12:01] <DekaPink> delire: I know... though I'm still going to want it or a virtual machine for like... TMPGenc... and Share. xD
[12:01] <calamari_> hmm..  appears to be runnign from /etc/cron.daily/slocate  .. any harm in getting rid of that file ?
[12:01] <delire> DekaPink: you know it's all over for windows when you find yourself saying things like "time to cut out the rot" and feeling warm when imagining running df -h
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: erm... difficult since that implies you went outside the package management system
[12:01] <kryps> ahh, it was my box that is the problem, it won't start anymore.. it's the psu
[12:01] <pcharky> _SWAT_: I meant if you know whether there is a repository with plugin-packages for beep-media-player.
[12:02] <Tarcastil> thoreauputic, I just need to say I have java to satisfy dependencies
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: if it was a .deb apt should know about it
[12:02] <Tarcastil> since it's a binary install instead of a makefile, I couldn't checkinstall it
[12:02] <DekaPink> delire: Hehe... Yeah, it's getting there, for sure. I was very discontent the other night when I broke my Ubuntu and couldn't think about anything until it was fixed. xD
[12:02] <_SWAT_> pcharky, I don't know. Maybe you should checkout the ubuntu backports repo's :D
[12:03] <pcharky> _SWAT_: Thanks.
[12:03] <delire> calamari_ i meant to ask, do you have DMA on the disk / is mounted on?
[12:03] <Cody> is there anyway to get the file browser to  use the same action as right click on folder -> browse
[12:03] <Cody> when double clicking
[12:03] <calamari_> delire: you asked, but I'm not sure how to figure that one out
[12:03] <brokeboy> in need of some assistance.  cant get my .mp3s or .avis or anything to play on ubuntu! and what is the equivalent to .exe on ubuntu? i download freeware off the internet for linux and cant even get the files to run.  shit most of the time i cant even find the files! whats the equlivent to the program folder in ubuntu?
[12:04] <thoreauputic> Cody: edit - preferences - behaviour - always open in browser
[12:04] <ray_> ok i have a question involving mplayer
[12:04] <lukiss> hello, im trying out the ppc liveCD on an old powerbook and it works fine... just one thing i cant figure out, how do you do a right mb click in gnome when you're on a mac?
[12:04] <thoreauputic> lukiss: use the F12 key
[12:04] <delire> calamari_: 'hdparm -d /dev/hda' where "hda" is your harddisk.
[12:05] <flodine> delire what do i do to update my files for the new wmii
[12:05] <delire> calamari_: be careful to type that line exactly
[12:05] <Cody> ty thoreauputic :)
[12:05] <bur[n] er> f12 == specific command... right click is different with every window that is focused
[12:05] <Tarcastil> thoreauputic: there's no dpkg command to tell apt I went outside the package manager?
[12:05] <bur[n] er> f12 would work for desktop i think
[12:05] <crimsun> brokeboy: slow down. (1) Install gstreamer0.8-mad and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg. (2) There are no .exe files. Look at the file type: if it's executable, it's marked +x. You can see via ls -l. (3) /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin are the closest. There is no one program folder since executable files can be anywhere (more or less).
[12:05] <delire> flodine: are you running hoary?
[12:05] <calamari_> delire: /dev/hda: using_dma    =  1 (on)
[12:05] <flodine> yes
[12:05] <delire> flodine: i would simply compile it
[12:05] <ray_> i have to use oss in mplayer and it works fine when i open mplayer then open the file.....if i open a file from the file-browser it is choppy like it is still running alsa
[12:05] <calamari_> so it appears dma is on.. good :)
[12:05] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: well, dpkg is there to manage packages so...
[12:05] <tarvid> modems - which pci modems work?
[12:05] <lukiss> ohlala, it works! thank you!
[12:05] <delire> calamari_: hmm, well having DMA on should really lighten the load of that slocate
[12:05] <flodine> delire you mean with a tar file
[12:06] <delire> flodine: yes
[12:06] <Tarcastil> alright, well, thanks for the info
[12:06] <pcharky> _SWAT_: brokeboy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:06] <pcharky> _SWAT_: sorry
[12:06] <MrYoda> evening
[12:06] <pcharky> brokeboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:06] <flodine> delire will it come up in the start menu
[12:06] <cheesycow5_> i think every website on the internet is going down
[12:06] <delire> flodine: will what come up?
[12:06] <flodine> wmmi
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: you might have to install manually with --force-depends
[12:06] <calamari_> delire: does the Gnome search tool use slocate to find its files ?
[12:06] <delire> flodine: wmii is a window manager. it isn't run inside KDE or Gnome.
[12:07] <brokeboy> thanks .  im off to try more trial and error.  i'll be back soon im sure.
[12:07] <flodine> delire i want it in my log in screen
[12:07] <delire> calamari_: i believe as resourced from 'find', yes
[12:07] <delire> flodine: it should appear there, yes
[12:07] <delire> s/from/by
[12:08] <MrYoda> i have a little problem: ubuntu installation asked me to define a login and password, which i did. after that it did a reboot and did some finalization, which failed (compile error). now the shell asks me to login, but it won't accept the data i previously provided. is there any way to get things to work besides a complete reinstall?
[12:08] <paccer> okay - sacrificing a goat didnt work.. what the heck am i to do now? :(
[12:08] <delire> flodine: sorry "wmii is a window manager that doesn't run inside KDE or Gnome."
[12:08] <paccer> my samba simply broke in a unique way that aparently really sucks
[12:08] <cheesycow5_> yea, i think i accidentally took down the internet
[12:08] <cheesycow5_> i was clicking to many links to fast
[12:09] <delire> paccer: when you 'dpkg -l | grep samba' do you see "ii" next to the output?
[12:09] <flodine> delire i understand just want it in my login screen
[12:09] <delire> flodine: that'll work fine i believe
[12:09] <paccer> delire: yes
[12:09] <delire> paccer: and for samba-common also?
[12:09] <paccer> yes
[12:10] <flodine> delire what version do i get
[12:10] <Snippy> someone knows about cedega and steam ?
[12:10] <delire> hmm. what is the fatal error/issue?
[12:10] <delire> flodine: wmii-2
[12:10] <delire> flodine: the 'snapshot'
[12:10] <thoreauputic> paccer: possibly ask someone who has samba to do a dpkg -L samba and see what files you are missing, then do dpkg -x to look at the entrails of your package and move the relevant bits to the right places
[12:10] <paccer> delire: you asking me for error?
[12:10] <delire> flodine: when you install wmii, make sure you go through the tutorial presented to you.
[12:10] <delire> paccer: yes
[12:11] <paccer> delire: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2220
[12:11] <flodine> delire snapshot is ion 3
[12:11] <everton> ola
[12:11] <delire> paccer: thoreauputic has a good suggestion there. why not find someone here and compare?
[12:11] <delire> flodine: you lost me there.
[12:12] <flodine> delire http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html
[12:12] <pcharky> Can anybody tell me something about breezy? I got it installed on a separate partition-set to check it out. But gnome won't start. sessreg, and gdmwhich are missing.
[12:12] <paccer> can anyone do a dpkg -L samba for me please, and paste it on http://pastebin.arslinux.com maby? - would really apriciate it
[12:12] <Snippy> when I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..
[12:12] <vladuz976> anybody know how i get ssh running on ubuntu?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: just install openssh-server
[12:13] <pcharky> vladuz976: sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:13] <thoreauputic> or that
[12:13] <Snippy> can someone help me please?
[12:13] <vladuz976> pcharky: thoreauputic and then how do i startit?
[12:13] <paccer> anyone with samba inhere? - i need a favor
[12:13] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: it starts by default
[12:13] <pcharky> vladuz976: it starts by default, but if you want to start manually: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh {start|restart}
[12:13] <levander> Does Nero support creating ISO's with Rock Ridge extensions?
[12:14] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: else you would do  sudo invoke-rc,d ssh start
[12:14] <crimsun> levander: it does by default.
[12:14] <delire> paccer: that is very little information. what are you doing when this happens?
[12:14] <delire> flodine: i meant the wmii-2.0 snapshot
[12:14] <levander> crimsun: the Nero for Linux or the Nero for Windows?
[12:14] <paccer> delire: its a mail.. all i am doing is... nothing :)
[12:14] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: or sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[12:14] <crimsun> levander: both.
[12:14] <calamari> re's
[12:14] <delire> paccer: there will be samba logs that can help.
[12:14] <paccer> delire: i am doing nothing at all while it keeps spamming me with identical mails like that
[12:15] <levander> crimsun: really? I see an option to turn on Joliet, but not an option to turn on Rock Ridge
[12:15] <levander> crimsun: and yes, Joliet is on by default
[12:15] <Tarcastil> thoreauputic: is --force-depends in the man page for apt-get?
[12:15] <calamari> froze again.. I guess it didn't like me moving slocate.. kinda weird too because it took a little while before it froze
[12:15] <delire> paccer: sadly i don't run samba here, i don't know where samba logs are caught.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: dpkg
[12:15] <paccer> delire: i do
[12:15] <delire> paccer: samba is used by millions, there will be a fix at hand i'm sure.
[12:15] <delire> paccer: consider the samba users mailing list
[12:15] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: says command not found
[12:16] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: which of the two?
[12:16] <delire> flodine: http://wmi.modprobe.de/download/wmii-2.tar.bz2
[12:16] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[12:16] <Tarcastil> thoreauputic: so if I use that option with the name of something, that something will be used as a dependency even though apt doesn't know about it?
[12:16] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: if ssh is installed, that isn't possible
[12:17] <_SWAT_> paccer, /var/log/samba
[12:17] <Snippy> can someone help me please?
[12:17] <Snippy> when I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..
[12:17] <paccer> _SWAT_: thank you, but i know :)
[12:17] <samu> where is the settings file for vim located?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: no, you install packages manually using the option
[12:17] <pcharky> calamari: try breezy and reconsidder ;-)
[12:17] <crimsun> levander: it may be version-dependent. Not much sense in supporting RR by itself on Nero/win32.
[12:17] <calamari> pcharky: lol.. yeah I'm sure Hoary is great compared to that haha
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Tarcastil: be careful - --force-depends is a last resort and not recommended
[12:19] <juanej> anybody with amarok working on gnome?
[12:19] <Bubbling_Zombie> yupz
[12:19] <calamari> hmm, after the reboot everything seems fine.. searching works without crashing me this time
[12:19] <pcharky> juanej: what's the problem?
[12:19] <juanej> it doesnt play
[12:19] <juanej> i downloaded it from synaptic
[12:19] <juanej> open it
[12:19] <pcharky> juanej: do you have arts installed?
[12:19] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: but the invoke-rc.d ssh start doesn't work
[12:20] <calamari> so if it crashes again it can't be because of slocate :)
[12:20] <juanej> let me see
[12:20] <crimsun> juanej: you need to install the 'amarok-gstreamer' package.
[12:20] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: *sigh* what does pgrep sshd return?
[12:20] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: only an id
[12:21] <BlueWeasel> I'm wanting to do a lightweight installation of ubuntu using the server installation and Gnome. Is there a particular package that will handle this?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: Then it's already running!!
[12:21] <Chaotic_Reality> hi all.  i see that it's possible to play mp3s via a samba share using amaroK, but it doesn't appear to allow me select a whole directory in add to the collection, only individual files - is there a way to add a folder containing all my organized mp3s into the program?
[12:21] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: so it'll be running next time by default?
[12:21] <crimsun> BlueWeasel: erm, gnome is essentially what you get with the default Ubuntu installation...
[12:21] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: yup
[12:21] <juanej> when i try to install gstreamer:   Depends: amarok (=2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4) but 2:1.2.4-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp2 is to be installed
[12:21] <BlueWeasel> I've read on the forums about "apt-get install unbuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install gnome"
[12:21] <Tarcastil> thoreauputic: alright, thanks. I'll just install the package without apt
[12:21] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: cool, thanks
[12:22] <pcharky> vladuz976: I told you it starts by default.
[12:22] <crimsun> juanej: the backports line is causing problems. Comment it out, refresh, and try installing 'amarok-gstreamer' again.
[12:22] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: I seem to recall saying about half an hour ago that it "starts by default"
[12:22] <samu> excuse me, could somebody tell me how to change the tab size in vim?
[12:22] <BlueWeasel> crimson: yes, but I don't want any of the default applications installed.
[12:22] <crimsun> BlueWeasel: how do you plan to use GNOME without any of the default applications?
[12:22] <calamari> delire: thanks for identiying my problem
[12:22] <juanej> nope
[12:22] <juanej> doesnt work
[12:23] <crimsun> juanej: you have to configure amarok to use gstreamer.
[12:23] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: very true
[12:23] <juanej> may i reinstall amarok?
[12:23] <BlueWeasel>  I want to be able to install just the applications I want
[12:23] <crimsun> juanej: Preferences> Engines
[12:23] <levander> From what I'm reading, Linux supports Joliet.  Anybody know if this is true?
[12:23] <juanej> but
[12:23] <calamari> I'm gonna get some stuff done .. as much as I love fooling around with this hehe
[12:23] <juanej> gstreamer is not installed
[12:23] <calamari> cya
[12:23] <crimsun> juanej: erm, are you in GNOME, KDE, or ...?
[12:23] <messju> levander: it is true
[12:23] <juanej> gnome
[12:24] <crimsun> juanej: and are you using esd?
[12:24] <juanej> aRTs i think
[12:24] <paccer> delire, still there?
[12:24] <Snippy> can someone help me please?
[12:24] <Snippy> when I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..
[12:24] <Snippy> :(
[12:24] <crimsun> juanej: go to System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink
[12:24] <levander> messju: so, if I don't care about permissions on the files that I'm about to burn to DVD, I don't have to worry that Nero doesn't support Rock Ridge?
[12:24] <crimsun> juanej: what does it use?
[12:24] <Pega> Now a question to thoreauputic and the other helpers: Why in hell are you doing this? You aren't getting paid at all, right? I mean... If I knew this stuff, I would certainly answer a few questions daily, but some of you seem to spend hours just to actively answer questions here. And in 4 days I haven't seen, not even once, the letters RTFM :S
[12:24] <crimsun> levander: that's correct.
[12:25] <levander> crimsun: great, thanks! thanks messju
[12:25] <juanej> ESD
[12:25] <equex> could i "mount" a .rar file in linux in anyway ?
[12:25] <gpd> damn... the cd won't eject to put in the next one... :(
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Pega: hahah - do you believe in altruism? *g*
[12:25] <pcharky> Pega: some people _LIKE_ helping other people.
[12:25] <delire> paccer: i really can't help much, i just don't work with any windows machines..
[12:25] <aru> Pega: we lost the manual, so this is all we have
[12:25] <juanej> crimsun:  its ESD
[12:25] <delire> paccer: thus have no real use for samba. hmm
[12:25] <crimsun> juanej: so you ARE using esound, which means you need the 'amarok-gstreamer' package.
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Pega: helps us to stay in practice ;)
[12:25] <crimsun> juanej: you need to get rid of the backports line.
[12:25] <paccer> can anyone maby help me spot what is wrong with my samba? - http://paccer.dk/log.smbd
[12:25] <Pega> :)
[12:26] <juanej> i already comment it
[12:26] <crimsun> juanej: did you update?
[12:26] <juanej> yep
[12:26] <aru> !tell paccer about samba
[12:26] <ray_> does anybody know the command to run the gui version of mplayer from the term?
[12:26] <juanej> with the reload button
[12:26] <crimsun> juanej: apt-cache policy amarok-gstreamer
[12:26] <_SWAT_> Pega, how old are you and what do you do for a living (because of your remarks)
[12:26] <housetier> ray_ gmplayer
[12:26] <ray_> housetier, thank you so much
[12:26] <paccer> thank you aru - it doesnt help me tho
[12:26] <Pega> _SWAT_, 15 and I do... Nothing.  Study mostly.
[12:27] <Chaotic_Reality> hi all.  i see that it's possible to play mp3s via a samba share using amaroK, but it doesn't appear to allow me select a whole directory in add to the collection, only individual files - is there a way to add a folder containing all my organized mp3s into the program? anyone know?
[12:27] <_SWAT_> Pega, and sharing and helping eachother is GREAT or not? It's the OS-idea ;)
[12:27] <pcharky> Pega: Why are YOU doing thist, are YOU getting payed to be an ignorant **
[12:27] <aru> paccer: sorry about that
[12:27] <_SWAT_> Pega, thought so :P
[12:27] <juanej> crimsun:  Installed: (none)
[12:27] <EasterSunshine> i lvoe helping ppl
[12:27] <EasterSunshine> even though i'm just idling
[12:27] <paccer> not a problem, aru :)
[12:27] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: it's running but i can't log in
[12:27] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: it just hangs
[12:27] <crimsun> juanej: and Candidate?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> Pega: from a self-interest viewpoint - if *I* have a problem I hope the community will help me too :)
[12:28] <delire> paccer: wow, a bit of a mess in there.
[12:28] <juanej> Candidate: 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4
[12:28] <delire> thoreauputic: here hear
[12:28] <paccer> delire: yes - but something specific must cause it
[12:28] <crimsun> juanej: now what's the installed version of 'amarok'?
[12:28] <EasterSunshine> there should be more ppl like thoreauputic in the world
[12:28] <paccer> cant figure out what, tho
[12:28] <EasterSunshine> he is slowly changing the way i look at life
[12:28] <delire> paccer: /join #samba
[12:28] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: hmm - are you running a firewall?
[12:29] <delire> paccer: there are 80 people in there
[12:29] <paccer> delire - i will try.. thanks for your help
[12:29] <juanej> crimsun:  1.2.4
[12:29] <wikan> hi all
[12:29] <wikan> im newbie here
[12:29] <vladuz976> no
[12:29] <Chaotic_Reality> ok does anyone know if there is an extension for xmms that will queue up folders from a samba share? heh
[12:29] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: no
[12:29] <Chaotic_Reality> cuz i'd much rather use that instead
[12:29] <ray_> anyone use xfce?
[12:29] <juanej> may i unistall it and install with synaptic again?
[12:30] <pcharky> Chaotic_Reality: did you mount the shares?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: can you ssh localhost on the machine that is running the server ?
[12:30] <messju> ray_: yes, but not on my ubuntu machine :)
[12:30] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: thoreauputic yeah that works
[12:30] <vladuz976> but from my laptop it doesn't work
[12:30] <crimsun> juanej: there's your problem. You need to uninstall 'amarok' from backports, then install the version from hoary.
[12:30] <juanej> crimsun?
[12:30] <juanej> ahm mok
[12:30] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: also i have my friend try to log in and it doesn't work
[12:30] <Pega> Hmm. Too difficult to comprehend... Brains... Melting... I would understand a few questions but... Do you people ever get annoyed thinking "If he would read ubuntuguide he wouldnt ask that" or "if he searched forums for 5 minutes he would save a lot of trouble from both of us". :S
[12:30] <crimsun> juanej: then you can install 'amarok-gstreamer' from hoary, too.
[12:31] <Chaotic_Reality> pcharky, i can already see the share via samba, i don't think that's the problem. i can individually select mp3s inside of amarok, but iw ant to select the directory that contains all of my mp3s...doesn't seem to be able to do that
[12:31] <juanej> ok thx
[12:31] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: OK so the problem is ssh ing to the machine from outside, right? Which suggests the machine isn't allowing connections
[12:31] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: i guess so
[12:31] <pcharky> Chaotic_Reality: Yeah, but how did you connect to the samba-share?
[12:31] <Cody> in a shell script, is there anyway to specify the color of an echo?
[12:32] <samu> so, umm how to change tab size in vim or location of vims config file please?
[12:32] <pcharky> Chaotic_Reality: And can you select whole directories on the local filesystem.
[12:32] <Chaotic_Reality> pcharky, playlist->add media->browse to samba share. unless i'm not understanding what you're saying.
[12:32] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: any idea what i could try
[12:32] <Chaotic_Reality> pcharky, i don't want to do that. i want to select one directory off a samba share which contains 5000 mp3s. not select them all individually.
[12:32] <Chaotic_Reality> heh
[12:32] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: do you have any settings in /etc/hosts.allow or hosts.deny? Have you checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config or the other files in that dir?
[12:33] <delire> Pega: the idea is to help people help themselves. sometimes this does best start with documentation, but mostly use. largely people don't know where to start looking. a mix of reading and asking and then application is a fast road to practical awareness.
[12:33] <deltab> Cody: tput setaf 4; echo hello; tput setaf 9
[12:33] <pcharky> Chaotic_Reality: I understand that, but can you do so on the local filesystem.
[12:33] <paccer> delire: looks like its 80 idle people :)
[12:33] <delire> paccer: may be. ask your question and be prepared to wait for an hour..
[12:33] <juanej> crimsun: im having a problem with the default language...
[12:33] <juanej> ive been messing with /etc/environment
[12:33] <paccer> delire: yep - i am :)
[12:34] <delire> paccer: you think that's bad. try #mutt ;)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: just curious - in what way am I slowly changing the way you view things?
[12:34] <juanej> how do i fix that? i want the default english
[12:34] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: all commented out there
[12:34] <EasterSunshine> thoreauputic: its about how i use my time. i wanna spend more of my time helping others
[12:34] <deltab> Cody: add together 1 for red, 2 for green, 4 for blue; use 9 for the default; setaf for foreground, setab for background
[12:35] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  so stay here and use the forums ;)
[12:35] <delire> paccer: some of those people had close to 6 months of uptime. i asked a question and it took *2 days*to be answered. around 15 lines had been posted in this entire period ;)
[12:35] <paccer> delire: heh.. im getting kinda impatient... need to go to work in 5 hours.. and i need to sleep before i go to work :) - so my patience isnt as good as it should :/
[12:35] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: I suggest you read those files with attention and consult the man to see if there are options you can enable
[12:35] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: ok
[12:35] <juanej> crimsun?
[12:35] <kemik> anyone here has experience with USB printers and cups ?
[12:35] <juanej> i cant install it with gstreamer
[12:35] <delire> paccer: well you can always look into it tomorrow. somehow, things became very messy. things may get worse if you rush..
[12:35] <crimsun> juanej: I have no idea what you did to /etc/environment
[12:35] <crimsun> juanej: did you remove 'amarok'?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: well, time is one thing I have a lot of so this seems like a useful way to use it :)
[12:36] <juanej> yep
[12:36] <juanej> but
[12:36] <juanej> then i reload synaptic
[12:36] <Chaotic_Reality> pcharky, i think i just got it.  just pasted in the path to the samba share and it's adding them now.
[12:36] <delire> paccer: everything is ultimately fixable where text files and permissions are concerned ;)
[12:36] <juanej> and when i try to install it again it doesnt let me choose gstreamer
[12:36] <Snippy> can someone help me please?
[12:36] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to get samba not to ask passwords when I try to browse files with windows machine?
[12:36] <Snippy> when I use cedega, I installed steam, no probs, trying to install CS: Source and it shows the bar that it creates local game things.. and it seems to hang.. it does nothing..
[12:36] <Snippy> :(
[12:36] <EasterSunshine> thoreauputic: its a lot better than my friends who literally spend over ten hours a day playing world of warcraft
[12:36] <crimsun> juanej: what version does it install?
[12:36] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: seems odd though - I don't recall having to do anything special to get ssh working
[12:37] <juanej> 1.2.3
[12:37] <_SWAT_> EasterSunshine, I even now a guy who stopped with his study for a few months just to play World Of Warcraft :-S
[12:37] <pcharky> Snippy: sorry, I can't help you.
[12:37] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: yes, last time i did that i dindn't have that trouble,
[12:37] <EasterSunshine> i konw a guy who dropped college to play wow
[12:37] <Snippy> too bad pcharky, but thanks for your answer
[12:37] <juanej> let me see i think i got it
[12:37] <pcharky> Snippy: did you run the installer from a terminal?
[12:37] <pcharky> Snippy: I can try though.
[12:38] <delire> it's late. night all
[12:38] <kemik> Snippy:  what's troubling you?
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> cya delire
[12:38] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: see if someone can nmap you to see if port 22 or whatever is listening - netstat might help you too
[12:38] <Snippy> yes I did
[12:38] <Snippy> it just doesnt load CS: Source
[12:38] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: what is nmap
[12:38] <pcharky> Snippy: any errors on the terminal output?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: a portscanning program
[12:38] <Snippy> I click on it on the list, and a new menu comes.. it's loading the local game content.. but it does nothing
[12:38] <Snippy> no errors
[12:38] <Snippy> it just hangs then
[12:38] <juanej> hey crimsun how do i restore the default english for ubuntu?
[12:39] <afaik> heheheehhe http://data.4chan.org/b/src/1123451084917.jpg
[12:39] <Snippy> "hangs"
[12:39] <afaik> oh, no it's not spam btw
[12:39] <afaik> those idiots in gentoo banned me for posting the image claiming it was spam :(
[12:39] <pcharky> Snippy: Then i really can't help you.
[12:39] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: just sucks that it is now working when i need it
[12:40] <Snippy> okay.. thanks for trying tough
[12:40] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: maybe try restarting it -  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[12:40] <Snippy> anyone know if Photoshop CS2 runs in CrossOffice Pro (newest version) ?
[12:41] <jasmuz> Snippy: have you checked their page?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> pcharky: please, keep your queries in channel
[12:41] <thoreauputic> pcharky: or at least ask first
[12:41] <Snippy> well, not entirely
[12:41] <pcharky> thomerz: sure, sorry.
[12:41] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: no nothing, "ssh username@ip" should do it right?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: should, yes
[12:42] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: when you restarted ssh did you see an "OK" or something?
[12:43] <jrattner1> Anyone ever use bluetooth in linux
[12:43] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: yes it says ok in green on the right
[12:43] <pcharky> jrattner1: yup
[12:43] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: OK well at least it's running
[12:43] <_SWAT_> vladuz976, read the man/help. It's "ssh -l <username> <ip>
[12:43] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: true
[12:43] <Chaotic_Reality> crap. i just removed the menu bar for amarok and can't figure out how to readd it to try and adjust the output device it uses. heh
[12:43] <jrattner1> pcharky, using what program'
[12:43] <vladuz976> _SWAT_: that command does the same. alreadytried
[12:44] <pcharky> jrattner1: depends on the application? I only used file-transfer with my mobile-phone.
[12:44] <jrattner1> im trying to connect my mobile phone to
[12:44] <MartenH> why are there often only old version avaliable in synaptic?
[12:44] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: see if there is anything weird in /etc/default/ssh
[12:45] <thoreauputic> like a line blocking outside connections
[12:45] <pcharky> jrattner1: What do you want to do with the connection?
[12:45] <jrattner1> download ring tones
[12:46] <pcharky> jrattner1: check out obexftp, it's primitive, but effective.
[12:46] <thoreauputic> MartenH: because Ubuntu freezes every 6 months
[12:46] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: looks ok in there
[12:46] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: sorry, running out of ideas here...
[12:46] <vladuz976> thoreauputic: cool thanks anyways
[12:46] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:47] <thoreauputic> good luck
[12:47] <jrattner1> cool
[12:47] <Chaotic_Reality> is there any other way to configure the sound system inside of amarok other than the engine area? the only thing listed there is aRts and it doesn't play my music.
[12:47] <thoreauputic> gotta go - see you all later :)
[12:47] <jrattner1> pcharky, what if i want to sync the calendar from my phone to my laptop
[12:47] <pcharky> jrattner1: I think evolution supports tahat, though i never tried.
[12:48] <jrattner1> my phone uses mircrosoft mobile 2003
[12:48] <vladuz976> anybody else here know much about ssh?
[12:49] <pfp> hey, do you know any video player that would support vobsubs? or a method to convert them into .srt...
[12:50] <deltab> mplayer does
[12:50] <pfp> oh, nice
[12:51] <pcharky> jrattner1: I'm afraid someone else will have to help you further, I'm off to bed.
[12:51] <tony> hi
[12:51] <Pega> hi
[12:51] <tony> anybody know mount the floppy
[12:51] <Snippy> gpd, can I pm you please?
[12:51] <tony> ?
[12:51] <som1> er.. ubuntu thinks i have half of my ram
[12:52] <tony> where are you from?
[12:52] <tony> pega
[12:52] <som1> wild guess, .fi = finland
[12:52] <som1> ..
[12:52] <crimsun> som1: and how much RAM do you have?
[12:52] <som1> 512
[12:52] <frequency> som1: is your second RAM stick pushed firmly into the socket?
[12:52] <Draucon> q time
[12:52] <som1> i got one ram stick
[12:52] <Pega> tony, Finland. This nick has nothing to do with my real name, if that is what you think about.
[12:52] <Snippy> gpd, can I pm you please?
[12:53] <tony> what is gpd?
[12:53] <codecaine> anyone know what command displays groups that a user belongs too?
[12:53] <Snippy> a guy namend like that?
[12:53] <tony> i don't andeestant
[12:53] <pfp> codecaine: 'id username'
[12:53] <crimsun> som1: free -m |grep '+'|awk '{ print $4 }'
[12:53] <robotgeek> codecaine: groups
[12:53] <codecaine> thx
[12:53] <som1> oh yeah i confused. never mind
[12:53] <som1> this freaks me out. im going to kill someone.
[12:54] <frequency> what?
[12:54] <tony> i use ubuntu in may amd64 3200+ 1g ram
[12:54] <ray_> anybody know anyhting about xfce
[12:54] <tony> and
[12:54] <crimsun> ray_: what do you need?
[12:54] <tony> i can't mount the floppy
[12:54] <ray_> crimsun, are there repos for 4.2.2?
[12:54] <crimsun> ray_: in Breezy, yes.
[12:55] <crimsun> ray_: they'll be built for hoary-backports automagically
[12:55] <ray_> crimsun, ummm what?....they are in backports?
[12:55] <crimsun> ray_: you'll have to check. I don't use backports.
[12:55] <aru> does installing fluxbox or enlightenment screw anything up like KDE does?
[12:55] <aru> menu wise, that is
[12:56] <ray_> ok
[12:56] <crimsun> aru: no, it's all orthogonal.
[12:56] <tony> anybody known mount the floppy
[12:56] <tony> plaese im from argentina
[12:56] <Chaotic_Reality> what does that have to do with mounting your floppy?
[12:57] <aru> crimsun: thanks
[12:57] <frequency> because Argentine floppy drives work differently :-P
[12:57] <Chaotic_Reality> heh
[12:57] <Hoxzer> how can I know the username/password what I need to login linux machine shares?
[12:57] <aru> heh
[12:57] <tony> it say (mount: no se puede encontrar /mnt/floppy en /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab
[12:57] <tony> )
[12:57] <flodine> crimsun is it hard to update libc 20 files
[12:57] <frequency> tony: look at /etc/fstab
[12:57] <frequency> better yet
[12:58] <tony> and
[12:58] <frequency> show me the results of grep fd0 /etc/fstab
[12:58] <tony> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  vfat    rw,user,noauto 0 0  0       0
[12:58] <ifr> Muchos firestarter problems. I cannot get it to respect policies I set. I told it to allow all incoming from my ssh server on my home network, and yet it persists in blocking them. I can get through if I turn firestarter off, but if it's on it blocks everything.
[12:58] <duncanm> hola
[12:58] <frequency> ahha
[12:59] <skalpel> is there anyway to tag my mp3 files so they appear uniformly in my music player?
[12:59] <duncanm> where can i get the latest gtkpod as a package?
[12:59] <frequency> then try mount /media/floppy0
[12:59] <tony> it say mount: /dev/fd0 no es un dispositivo de bloques vlido
[12:59] <frequency> hmm..
[12:59] <codecaine> anyone using cisco vpn client?
[01:00] <crimsun> flodine: you shouldn't be upgrading 20 libc files anyway.
[01:00] <frequency> may not actually have a vfat filesystem
[01:00] <crimsun> flodine: particularly not by HAND
[01:00] <ifr> Anyone on firestarter?
[01:00] <tony> ok how install it?
[01:00] <flodine> crimsun im not
[01:00] <frequency> tony: does it work with other floppies?
[01:01] <Madpilot> ifr: I run firestarter
[01:01] <philips> codecaine: I have in the past
[01:01] <tony> no only one and dvd but dvd work ok it automatic mount when i start ubunut
[01:01] <flodine> crimsun i want to install wmii but he said just compile it but wont it still need the newer file
[01:01] <ifr> Madpilot, thanks. I'm having policy troubles -I allow a IP and firestarter still blocks.
[01:01] <ifr> Any ideas?
[01:01] <frequency> right
[01:02] <codecaine> philips, it seems to connect to my firewalls, but i don't see any routes that it has made?
[01:02] <codecaine> did yours show routes?
[01:02] <frequency> try this, open /etc/fstab in your favorite text editor (as root) and replacing "vfat" with "autofs" on that line
[01:02] <Madpilot> ifr: hmmm... I just scrolled up and saw your SSH Server post - sorry, I haven't had any trouble with Firestarter & don't run an ssh server
[01:02] <philips> codecaine: yes
[01:02] <ifr> Righto.
[01:03] <crimsun> flodine: huh? it requires what to compile?
[01:03] <philips> codecaine: I inserted the module, and ran the vpn control software and it worked fine after that
[01:03] <tony> ok and now?
[01:03] <frequency> pruebalo otra vez
[01:04] <tony> sabes castellano?
[01:04] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to tag all my music files at once so they show up uniformly in my music player?
[01:04] <codecaine> philips, which module?
[01:04] <philips> codecaine: the kernle module
[01:04] <codecaine> philips, vpnclient_init is all i startup in /etc/init.d
[01:04] <frequency> tony: un poquito..
[01:05] <tony> root@pirri:/home/tony # mount /media/floppy
[01:05] <tony> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[01:05] <tony>        missing codepage or other error
[01:05] <tony>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:05] <tony>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:05] <frequency> it's /media/floppy0, not /media/floppy
[01:05] <erisco> i am using wine, and i was wondering if you MUST install the windows program, or can you just copy the files into your fake windows partition?
[01:06] <erisco> I copied the files into the fake partition, and it doesn't work. I am thinking wine doesn't support it
[01:06] <cafuego_> erisco: you MUST install; normally applications place files all over the place.
[01:06] <EasterSunshine> theres a lot of things in the registry you would have to take care of
[01:06] <tony> root@pirri:/home/tony # mount /media/floppy0
[01:06] <tony> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[01:06] <tony>        missing codepage or other error
[01:06] <tony>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:06] <tony>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:06] <EasterSunshine> erisco: when you install something on windows, more changes are made than just putting files into the install directory
[01:07] <tony> the same
[01:07] <frequency> hmmm
[01:07] <cafuego_> tony: Please do paste multi-lines into the channel.
[01:07] <musashi> skalpel try amarok, it has tag editor and lots more
[01:07] <cafuego_> Eh
[01:07] <duncanm> hmm
[01:07] <tony> ok sorry
[01:07] <tony> i don't know
[01:07] <Chaotic_Reality> cafuego, he did do that. :)
[01:07] <cafuego_> tony: That was supposed to day "don't" :-)
[01:07] <duncanm> so i installed the debian gtkpod on my hoary box
[01:07] <kemik> erisco:  it depends on the applications... but generally it's not enough to just copy the installed folder
[01:08] <duncanm> and now i see: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:08] <duncanm>   gtkpod: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[01:08] <duncanm>           Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.20) but 2.6.17-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:08] <duncanm>   gtkpod-aac: Conflicts: gtkpod but 0.94.0-1 is to be installed
[01:08] <kemik> tony:  use the paste url in topic
[01:08] <pfp> bleh, mplayer seems to be as slow on the k7 as it was on the g3....
[01:08] <pfp> ahem, anyone know of a *sane* vid player with vosbsub support?
[01:08] <kemik> duncanm:  dont paste in channel, use the pastebin in topic
[01:08] <EasterSunshine> tony: i think you can paste multilines in #flood
[01:08] <kemik> !pastebin
[01:08] <ubotu> well, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[01:08] <Chaotic_Reality> yep
[01:08] <_admin> Hi, can somebody please help me get unRar?
[01:08] <Keegan> when I type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it returns "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[01:08] <Chaotic_Reality> sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:08] <Chaotic_Reality> :o
[01:09] <ifr> Anyone want to venture a guess as to why SSH would be coming on on port 33102?
[01:09] <kemik> _admin:  sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[01:09] <Keegan> anybody got any suggestions?
[01:09] <tony> www.rpmseek.com here is the unrar
[01:09] <kemik> Edddie:  unrar-nonfree is what you're looking for
[01:09] <Edddie> kemik: thats the problem, it always tells me it's not there
[01:10] <Edddie> I heard I have to uncomment/add some resps?
[01:10] <kemik> Edddie:  universe
[01:10] <kemik> !repositories
[01:10] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:10] <Edddie> thanks
[01:10] <tony> and frecu
[01:10] <Edddie> where is it by the way kemik ?
[01:10] <tony> and frequency what i do?
[01:10] <pfp> Edddie: there's rar in multiverse
[01:10] <kemik> Edddie:  where is what ?
[01:11] <kemik> Edddie:  follow the link ubotu posted
[01:11] <Edddie> the file where the lines I need to uncomment
[01:11] <Edddie> kl
[01:11] <frequency> tony: do you use AIM?
[01:11] <tony> what is?
[01:11] <Keegan> when I type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it returns "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted" The folks at ndiswrapper are no help at all. Any suggestions?
[01:11] <tony> i don't know
[01:11] <frequency> nevermind..
[01:12] <EasterSunshine> tony: aol instant messenger
[01:12] <Keegan> u can use aol on gaim
[01:12] <EasterSunshine> its like one on one irc...if that helps
[01:12] <tony> no i use gaim
[01:12] <frequency> oh, same thing
[01:12] <kemik> gaim has AIM / MSN / ICQ support
[01:12] <tony> ok
[01:12] <kemik> gaim is not a protocol in itself..
[01:12] <Keegan> yea, but it accepts almost all protocols
[01:12] <EasterSunshine> gaim is a mutliprotocol instant messenging client
[01:13] <EasterSunshine> and its awesome at that
[01:13] <kemik> well it lacks some features
[01:13] <Keegan> join /#ndiswrapper
[01:13] <EasterSunshine> i am coding an aim client atm
[01:13] <kemik> filetransfers
[01:13] <Hoxzer> somebody here has got samba shares working from windows to linux?
[01:13] <juanej> crimsun: are u there?
[01:13] <EasterSunshine> gaim is not easily scriptable
[01:14] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  do you use Glade ?
[01:14] <frequency> tony: did you change that line in /etc/fstab?
[01:14] <tony> yes
[01:14] <crimsun> juanej: yes?
[01:14] <frequency> okay, can you show me that one line?
[01:14] <tony> and put thereautofs
[01:14] <EasterSunshine> kemik: nope, dunno what it is, but i assume a scriptable aim client?
[01:15] <tony> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  autofs    rw,user,noauto 0
[01:15] <juanej> i installed
[01:15] <juanej> with the gstream
[01:15] <tony> sorry
[01:15] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  no, it's a frontend to GTK to create your GUI in
[01:15] <juanej> but the song try to start
[01:15] <juanej> and then it finishes
[01:15] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  i assumed you were coding in C/C++, i guess you're not
[01:15] <EasterSunshine> kemik: i use gtk's c interface
[01:16] <crimsun> juanej: did you adjust the Engine preference in Amarok?
[01:16] <juanej> yep
[01:16] <juanej> oss
[01:16] <juanej> then alsa
[01:16] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  ok.. i've been having alot of trouble trying to get GTKMM and libglademm to work...
[01:16] <Edddie> kemik: I added the resperitory but it's not there
[01:16] <juanej> and esd
[01:16] <kemik> Edddie:  did you update?
[01:17] <EasterSunshine> kemik: sry, i've never used it i'm not the person to ask for help
[01:17] <Edddie> ya
[01:17] <tony> how is the comand to send the mensage only you
[01:17] <crimsun> juanej: you should set it to esdsink if you're using esd
[01:17] <juanej> i did
[01:17] <kemik> Edddie:  it may be in backports...
[01:17] <frequency> tony: /msg frequency <message>
[01:17] <Edddie> backports?
[01:18] <kemik> !backports
[01:18] <ubotu> methinks backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[01:18] <kemik> add that to your sources.lit
[01:18] <kemik> list
[01:18] <Geoffrian> Does anyone here use the Gnome PPP program???  I need some help getting it to run.
[01:18] <kaffeend> Hey everyone... I was hoping someone might be able to help me out here. I'm trying to run games and so far have had 0% success even with the Linux games I've downloaded like Enemy Territory. I tried reinstalling Windows on my NTFS partition, but setup says it's detecting system hardware but leaves the screen blank indefinately. I don't know what to do here... Can anyone please help me?
[01:18] <poonj> hey guys, how do I enable the use of universe packages?
[01:19] <X7C> it's cs time!
[01:19] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  but you're coding the entire GUI, not using a tool to make the gui then parse  a xml file ?
[01:19] <crimsun> !addingrepositorieshowto
[01:19] <ubotu> crimsun: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:19] <diego> do you know? where i coul downlaod good games?
[01:19] <kemik> !repositories
[01:19] <ubotu> I heard repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:19] <Hazuki> Um...is there anything like Gentoo's make.conf in Ubuntu?
[01:19] <crimsun> Hazuki: $package/debian/rules
[01:19] <kemik> poonj:  follow that link
[01:19] <EasterSunshine> kemik: nope. thats a bit advanced for me
[01:19] <Geoffrian> No one here can help me with GNOME PPP???
[01:19] <poonj> thanks kemik
[01:20] <crimsun> Geoffrian: that's a very broad topic (gnome ppp)
[01:20] <Keegan> can anyone here help me with ndiswrapper?
[01:20] <EasterSunshine> kemik: i'm not using anything more than kate, gnu make, and gcc
[01:20] <Geoffrian> Its a program I downloaded from Ubuntu called GNOME PPP.  I can get online through my typical means but this can not detect my modem.
[01:20] <erisco> is there any way to get around not having the install file for a program?
[01:20] <Hazuki> Crimsun: what's that, a package to install?
[01:20] <Snippy> I'm totally noob.. how can I run .deb files?
[01:21] <erisco> i have the program files, is there any way i can go from there?
[01:21] <crimsun> Hazuki: it's a package to compile. It doesn't make sense to speak of make.conf without compiling.
[01:21] <Geoffrian> sudo dpkg -i <file>
[01:21] <enyc> snip: they install using 'dpkg' but generlaly you dont want/ened to be detaling with individual debs ;-)
[01:21] <Hazuki> well...I need to find make.conf first x_x To edit it
[01:21] <enyc> snip: deb is a "package" file
[01:21] <kaffeend> Hey everyone... I was hoping someone might be able to help me out here. I'm trying to run games and so far have had 0% success even with the Linux games I've downloaded like Enemy Territory. I tried reinstalling Windows on my NTFS partition, but setup says it's detecting system hardware but leaves the screen blank indefinately. I don't know what to do here... Can anyone please help me?
[01:21] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  i see.. well i've been having trouble with glade so i'm thinking i'll just hardcode the gui for now and see if i'll bother with the glade-method ;)
[01:21] <enyc> snip: generally, isntall stuff using apt-get or synamtic  to get debs, dont move them about manually
[01:22] <Snippy> yeah I know
[01:22] <ray_> kaffeend, what was the error when you tried enemy-territory?
[01:22] <Snippy> I downloaded a bittorrent client on the official bittorrent  page
[01:22] <Snippy> now I want to install it
[01:22] <Snippy> how to ?
[01:22] <EasterSunshine> sry you guys are distracting me from schoolwork! lol...i'll bbl
[01:22] <benkong2> could someone tell me how to see what port samba is running on I did a ps aux |grep -E'(smbd|nmbd)' but did not get a port number
[01:22] <kemik> kaffeend:  if you install Windows after linux , grub will be overwritten and your in a lot of trouble (it is fixable though, but still messy)
[01:23] <kaffeend> ray_ no error perse
[01:23] <kaffeend> kemik - okay thanks
[01:23] <kemik> benkong2:  google will tell you, or perhaps netstat
[01:23] <kaffeend> ray_ I can install it but can't run it
[01:23] <benkong2> kemik; thanks
[01:24] <kaffeend> ray_ it's to do with nvidia.glx I believe
[01:24] <moshe> is there an ubuntu transcode package anywhere in the wild?
[01:24] <ray_> kaffeend, did you install your video drivers
[01:24] <Snippy> anyone tested Maya 7 unlimited on linux?
[01:24] <kaffeend> ray_ I am running a 64 bit system
[01:24] <kaffeend> ray_ yup
[01:24] <ray_> kaffeend, what happens when you run glxgears
[01:24] <enyc> mosh: what do you mean by 'transcode package' exactly?
[01:25] <glick> baidu rules!
[01:25] <moshe> a .deb for hoary of transcode
[01:25] <glick> baidu.com
[01:25] <kaffeend> glxgears... hmmm...
[01:25] <glick> chinese search engine
[01:25] <ray_> kaffeend, from term
[01:25] <kaffeend> ray_ nice little applet with pretty gears moving :)
[01:26] <cafuego_> Just run 'nvidia-glx-config' to enable it in xorg.conf
[01:26] <ray_> kaffeend, you might not have it set right in x
[01:26] <cafuego_> Note that glxgears is missing in breezy
[01:26] <dazjorz> hello again
[01:27] <kaffeend> ray_ there's a known bug with nvidia.glx
[01:27] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah but others with nvidia play ET
[01:27] <moshe> is ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net anything reliable?
[01:27] <benkong2> what package is nmap in?
[01:28] <kaffeend> but are they on 64 bit systems ray_?
[01:28] <cafuego_> benkong2: nmap
[01:28] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah good point
[01:28] <kaffeend> anyway the bug report is here https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5646
[01:28] <benkong2> cafuego; thanks sorry I looked and its in synaptic..
[01:28] <cafuego_> I expect you'd need to run ET in a 32bit chroot.
[01:29] <kaffeend> not my bug report, but I have exactly the same problem
[01:29] <Snippy> hey cafuego
[01:29] <Snippy> how are you ?
[01:29] <glick> i wish baidu had english translations
[01:29] <kaffeend> ray_ I believe even the ATI people using 64bit have this problem too :(
[01:30] <ray_> kaffeend, that sucks....i love enemy-territory
[01:30] <kaffeend> cafuego_ sorry I didn't even realize you were talking to me there :s
[01:31] <kaffeend> ray_ damn... I wanna play TrueCombat Elite
[01:31] <logical_mark> hey guys. is it easy to switch from gnome to KDE on ubuntu?
[01:31] <Chaotic_Reality> yes
[01:31] <ray_> kaffeend, is that free?
[01:31] <Chaotic_Reality> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <kaffeend> yes logical_mark
[01:31] <kaffeend> ray_ sure is
[01:31] <cafuego_> logical_mark: Yes. install "kubuntu-dekstop", logout, choose KDE on login.
[01:31] <ray_> kaffeend, where do i get it!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:31] <kaffeend> ray_ and it looks fantastic too
[01:31] <kaffeend> 1 sec
[01:32] <logical_mark> cafuego, I shouldnt install KDE from SPM?
[01:32] <Scythe> need some help, windows help, but i cant seem to find anyone with some knowlege
[01:32] <samu> im thinking about reformatting my laptops HD and putting ubuntu on that one too
[01:32] <samu> but i have trouble leaving itunes
[01:32] <hubsi> does someone know a good tv program besides xawv
[01:32] <samu> can you access the itunes podcasts from some ubuntu program?
[01:32] <cafuego_> logical_mark: Whatever would give you that idea?
[01:32] <kaffeend> someone was helping me with this yesterday but they managed to get it working and I haven't heard from them since!
[01:32] <Scythe> can you run itunes from xine?
[01:33] <logical_mark> cafuego, I am new to linux and ubuntu so I take it I am WAY off
[01:33] <logical_mark> thanks for the help
[01:33] <kaffeend> ray_ here you go bud http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php?x=d
[01:33] <cafuego_> logical_mark: Start Synaptic, find kubuntu-desktop; right clikc to mark for install, click Apply.
[01:33] <logical_mark> yeah yeah I am
[01:33] <ray_> kaffeend, thanks
[01:33] <kaffeend> ray_ np
[01:34] <logical_mark> cafuego_, so is there a special version of kde for ubuntu? Is that why I am not finding KDE with Synaptic?
[01:34] <kaffeend> ray_ I don't even want to play ET... I just need it to play TC Elite :(
[01:34] <cafuego_> logical_mark: Did you enable "universe" and "multiverse" repositories?
[01:35] <ray_> kaffeend, the graphics look great
[01:35] <crimsun> logical_mark: kubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <ray_> kaffeend, i have ET installed so is there anything special i have to do?
[01:35] <kaffeend> ray_ I know... very realistic
[01:35] <juanej> crimsun: it didnt work
[01:35] <kaffeend> ray_ no I don't think so mate
[01:36] <juanej> i try with any song
[01:36] <Snippy> anyone tested Maya 7 unlimited on linux?
[01:36] <Snippy> anyone tested Maya 7 unlimited on linux?
[01:36] <Snippy> sorry
[01:36] <juanej> "some urls were not suitable for the playlist"
[01:36] <kaffeend> ray_ maybe just install it in the same dir as ET?
[01:36] <BlueWeasel> crimsun: would using ubuntu-desktop basically install gnome w/o the 3rd party applications?
[01:36] <Keegan> what is the path to the ubuntu equivalent of my documents?
[01:36] <ray_> kaffeend, ok
[01:36] <crimsun> juanej: does it play any wav files in /usr/share/sounds/ ?
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> I want to use grub instead of lilo.  When I say "grub-install" it says "/dev/mapper/spiny-ubuntu does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.".  Then when I reboot it still uses lilo.  What should I do?
[01:36] <ids> :p
[01:36] <crimsun> BlueWeasel: it installs what Ubuntu installs.
[01:36] <logical_mark> cafuego_, yeah I have enabled them
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> my computer's name is spiny, btw
[01:37] <juanej> letme see
[01:37] <cafuego_> logical_mark: kubuntu-desktop is is, then. That's just a meta-package which pulls in all additional kde crap.
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> !info kubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[01:37] <ids> Is there any way to do a floppy (following onto downloading from ftp server) of ubuntu? I have an old laptop without a CD rom drive?
[01:38] <juanej> crimsun: yes
[01:38] <tiglionabbit> can someone help me?
[01:38] <crimsun> juanej: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[01:38] <EasterSunshine> how long a registered channel on this server expires, with no one ever having been in it, especailly not the owner?
[01:38] <kaffeend> okay, I have /home/me/Desktop/tcetest_0209_full.zip and I don't know what to do with it... Can someone help please?
[01:39] <crimsun> EasterSunshine: ~60 days, but ask in #freenode
[01:39] <EasterSunshine> thx crimsun
[01:39] <EasterSunshine> sry, i'm new on this server
[01:39] <Edddie> hi, can someone give me the full URI line for multiverse?
[01:40] <Hoxzer> LOL!
[01:40] <Hoxzer> I got it working >_<
[01:40] <Hoxzer> I must be good
[01:40] <ifr> Would anyone  happen to know why SSH would come in on port 32951 and 33102/33103?
[01:40] <crimsun> ifr: that's natural.
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> Edddie: same as universe, just add the word "multiverse" to the end of the line
[01:40] <ifr> crimsun, yes? Because Firestarter hates it.
[01:40] <crimsun> ifr: the connecting side normally uses ephemeral ports.
[01:41] <Edddie> ty tiglionabbit
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> Edddie: you can make it the same line even
[01:41] <ifr> crimsun, the client side?
[01:41] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> anyone know a good bittorrent website?
[01:41] <crimsun> ifr: correct, the client side.
[01:41] <logical_mark> does anyone know what port ubuntu remote desktop uses so I can forward it on my router
[01:41] <ifr> okay, I wonder why firestarter is acting as if it's unheard of.
[01:42] <logical_mark> ChurcH_of_Foamy, I use torrentreactor.net
[01:42] <juanej> crimsun: i installed it but still without working
[01:43] <logical_mark> anyone at all know how to setup the remote desktop for access FROM the internet?
[01:44] <crimsun> juanej: what are you trying to play?
[01:44] <juanej> mp3s
[01:44] <juanej> on xmms they work
[01:44] <Zalbor> Hello, does anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using the live edition.
[01:45] <Zalbor> I need to have "wait for dial tone" disabled
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> juanej: xmms has special handling for mp3s.  Install gstreamer0.8-mad and libmad and your other players will understand them
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> !info libmad
[01:45] <tiglionabbit> oops, that's not the name of it
[01:46] <tiglionabbit> it's in the wiki somewhere though, under restricted
[01:46] <avanspronsen> !mp3
[01:46] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:46] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[01:46] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:46] <juanej> thx
[01:48] <juanej> it works now
[01:48] <juanej> thank u crimsun  and tiglionabbit
[01:48] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[01:49] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> www.illwillpress.com/cartoons
[01:49] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> sorry have to plug it ^_^
[01:50] <gpd> ChurcH_of_Foamy: 404
[01:50] <Zalbor> Does anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.
[01:51] <adman> hello, how do you install downloaded apps
[01:51] <gpd> adman: extension?
[01:51] <SudoPus> I am trying to compile libdvdcss and it says it can't find a valid c compile in the path... how do I set gcc into my path permanently?
[01:52] <adman> gpd: bin
[01:52] <MrThou> While trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> SudoPus: don't compile it
[01:52] <gpd> adman: java?
[01:52] <adman> yes
[01:52] <gpd> !java
[01:52] <SudoPus> HrdwrBob: Better suggestion then?
[01:52] <gpd> ubotu: tell adman about java
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> SudoPus: it's packaged in hoary-extras I believe
[01:53] <gpd> HrdwrBoB: that one isn't quite the latest iirc - the newer one worked better 4 me
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> gpd: worked better?
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> how 'better'?
[01:54] <SudoPus> HrdwrBoB: Ok...so I am assuming that hoary-extras isn't in the default install of ubunut/kubuntu?
[01:54] <gpd> HrdwrBoB: didn't crash!
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> gpd: if you're referring to mplayer
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> that was a problem with mplayer
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> and AC3 support
[01:54] <younes> hello
[01:54] <gpd> HrdwrBoB: no... any player - totem, xine, vlc,
[01:54] <Zalbor> Does anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> gpd: hm ok
[01:55] <gpd> HrdwrBoB: 1.2.9 seems much more stable (on my system at least)
[01:55] <gpd> http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[01:55] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> is there something wrong with bittorrent?
[01:55] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> i keep getting error 111
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_Foamy: er could you be a bit more specific
[01:56] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> i keep getting a "urlopen error (111,connection refused)
[01:56] <Hoxzer> how do I allow samba server user to edit files in the server?
[01:56] <kaffeend> I've unzipped the folder for ct:elite and not sure what to do now - can anyone help me please?
[01:56] <benplaut> !hello
[01:56] <ubotu> benplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:56] <gpd> ChurcH_of_Foamy: that is a problem with the .torrent...
[01:56] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> ok
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_Foamy: the connection refused message means that the connection was refused.
[01:57] <SudoPus> HrdwrBoB: Thanks got the link to the .deb file...
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> SudoPus: cool
[01:57] <cafuego_> ChurcH_of_Foamy: Connections are normally refuses by kernels when nothing listens on said port or the firewall sends a REJECT
[01:57] <gpd> http://www.frankscorner.org/ <-- good pages for wine
[01:58] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> ahh there we go ^_^
[01:59] <tony>  i can't moun the floppy
[01:59] <tony> i need help
[02:00] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> you know tony i have the same problem >.<
[02:00] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> that's when i decided that floppys where outdated and archaic
[02:00] <benplaut> mine works :P
[02:00] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> and removed mine
[02:00] <benplaut> !ops
[02:00] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> lol
[02:00] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[02:01] <Zalbor> Does anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.
[02:01] <SudoPus> HrdweBoB: How do I go about finding out the path to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to add hoary-extras?
[02:01] <Amaranth> Yes?
[02:01] <SudoPus> Sorry bout that HrdwrBob
[02:01] <benplaut> DVSoftware, above
[02:01] <benplaut> Amaranth^^
[02:01] <DVSoftware> oops
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[02:02] <DVSoftware> that was message in serbian
[02:02] <SudoPus> HrdwrBoB: Kewl..thanks
[02:02] <benplaut> woops
[02:02] <DVSoftware> wanted to display it on another server
[02:02] <DVSoftware> sry
[02:02] <benplaut> sorry... looked like some warez message...
[02:02] <Amaranth> benplaut: Next time please ask him to use English, then call me if he doesn't listen. :)
[02:02] <benplaut> k, sorry
[02:02] <gpd> tony: try mount /media/floppy
[02:03] <benplaut> man, you guys are fast :P
[02:03] <kaffeend> can anyone please tell me how to install a program I have downloaded to the desktop please?
[02:03] <benplaut> kaffeend: a program not in the repos?
[02:03] <DVSoftware> i said that i'm going to put some files to download list and go to sleep
[02:03] <Amaranth> benplaut: !ops makes my computer beep at me
[02:03] <ChurcH_of_Foamy> i had a dream last night that gates was using Linux >.< and an ipod O_o
[02:03] <benplaut> ah
[02:03] <kaffeend> benplaut that's right
[02:03] <Snippy> how can I run .rpm files under ubuntu ?
[02:03] <Amaranth> Snippy: alien
[02:03] <kaffeend> benplaut it's a game
[02:03] <benplaut> kaffeend: is it a deb?
[02:03] <Amaranth> Snippy: sudo alien foo.rpm
[02:03] <Amaranth> Snippy: and it makes a .deb
[02:04] <DVSoftware> good nite ppl
[02:04] <kaffeend> benplaut it's a bunch of files
[02:04] <Snippy> Amarants, is this possible with EVERY .rpm ?
[02:04] <Zalbor> Does anyone know how I can make my modem initialize with ATX3? I'm using Ubuntu Live.
[02:04] <benplaut> kaffeend: to be compiled?
[02:04] <Snippy> Amaranth, is this possible with EVERY .rpm ?
[02:04] <benplaut> Snippy: not all
[02:04] <Snippy> hm
[02:04] <kaffeend> benplaut there's no .deb file that I can see,
[02:04] <Amaranth> Snippy: I would not try it unless you can't get the program any other way.
[02:05] <benplaut> kaffeend: what was it before you extracted it?
[02:05] <kaffeend> benplaut a .zip
[02:05] <Amaranth> Snippy: It's always better to get a deb and almost always better to compile from source and use checkinstall to make a deb if one isn't available.
[02:05] <Snippy> Amaranth, I cant get it as another package.. :(
[02:05] <avanspronsen> Snippy: it doesn't guarantee you will have the right dependencies
[02:05] <kaffeend> benplaut I haven't extracted it yet
[02:05] <benplaut> kaffeend: can you give me a link? that's kinda weirf
[02:05] <benplaut> *weird
[02:06] <kaffeend> benplaut  /home/me/Desktop/tcetest_0209_full.zip
[02:06] <benplaut> no...
[02:06] <benplaut> oh
[02:06] <benplaut> tcetest
[02:07] <Snippy> hm well, is there a possibility to install RPM Packet Manager ?
[02:07] <kaffeend> benplaut yep
[02:07] <benplaut> Snippy: not really
[02:07] <Snippy> why not?
[02:07] <gpd> Snippy: apt-get deals with the .deb once you generate it with alien
[02:07] <Amaranth> Snippy: because the rpm database and the dpkg database won't share data
[02:08] <Amaranth> Snippy: so it'd be more than worthless
[02:08] <Snippy> I see..
[02:08] <deltab> Zalbor: something to do with /etc/chatscripts and /etc/ppp/peers, I think
[02:08] <Amaranth> Snippy: What are you trying to install?
[02:08] <cafuego_> Snippy: yes, but don't use that to install RPMs if you want to keep a working system.
[02:08] <tony>  i can't moun the floppy
[02:08] <tony> i need help
[02:09] <benplaut> kaffeend: it's kinda weird, but there are instructions at
[02:09] <benplaut> http://webpages.charter.net/cirithungol/tcetest/elite_install-guide.html
[02:09] <Zalbor> deltab: I tried that, I added ATX3 but it didn't work. And when I checked the file later, ATX3 had changed to ATX3L2
[02:09] <gpd> tony: did you try my suggestion
[02:09] <shinshi> Does anyone have any experience with setting up a touchpad?
[02:09] <Snippy> Amaranth, I dont want to tell what I'm installing
[02:09] <tony> yes
[02:09] <tony> but
[02:09] <benplaut> shinshi: what kind of laptop?
[02:09] <kaffeend> benplaut thanks
[02:09] <Faco> crimsun: Thank you very much for your help, now is working
[02:09] <Amaranth> Snippy: ok, you're doing something illegal :P
[02:09] <benplaut> 'welcome :)
[02:09] <tony> don't work
[02:09] <shinshi> benplaut: Acer Ferrari 4005
[02:09] <benplaut> hmm
[02:09] <shinshi> haha
[02:09] <Snippy> Amaranth, ooh dude >_<
[02:09] <Snippy> SHHHHHT!
[02:10] <Amaranth> Snippy: sudo alien foo.rpm will make you a .deb which you can install with sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:10] <gpd> tony: error message?  what format disk?  other disks work...?
[02:10] <logical_mark> hey guys, when I am apt-get'n I am always getting this warning which I would like to know how to turn off - sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:10] <logical_mark> ok not that
[02:10] <benplaut> shinshi: quite frankly, i have no idea :P
[02:10] <ray_> kaffeend, i still like the normal ET better
[02:10] <Amaranth> Snippy: next time just get cedega in deb form :P
[02:10] <logical_mark> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y
[02:10] <Snippy> I have cedega 4.4 in deb form and point2play
[02:10] <Snippy> :P
[02:10] <logical_mark> how do I turn that off?
[02:10] <tony>        missing codepage or other error
[02:10] <tony>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:10] <tony>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:10] <Snippy> can I query you Amaranth ?
[02:11] <shinshi> benplaut: well i'm gonna ask a really newbie question, but how do change the init order of modules during boot, e.g. usb before ps2 stuff yada yada
[02:11] <Amaranth> Snippy: no
[02:11] <morbidi> hello
[02:11] <benplaut> logical_mark: i dont think you can
[02:11] <tony> how can invite you a private chat
[02:11] <Snippy> Amaranth, ok
[02:11] <logical_mark> benplaut, thanks anyway
[02:11] <gpd> tony: tony sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[02:11] <benplaut> ubotu tell shinshi about bum
[02:11] <Amaranth> Snippy: If you want to steal something you're going to have to figure out the details on your own. :P
[02:11] <benplaut> well...
[02:11] <SudoPus> I am trying to encode a dvd to avi..I created a new DVD project file but it offers only a ghosted encode button, are there any other libs I need to install?
[02:11] <morbidi> I just installed my ubuntu and my mouse doesn't work, it's a logitech cordless mouse, in the livecd it worked thought
[02:11] <benplaut> shinshi: a sec... i'll find you a link to Boot-UP Manager
[02:11] <Snippy> Amaranth, I'm not stealing >_>
[02:11] <morbidi> I've got hoary 5.04
[02:11] <shinshi> benplaut: thank :)
[02:11] <shinshi> er
[02:11] <morbidi> no updates
[02:11] <shinshi> thanks :)
[02:12] <morbidi> anyone ?
[02:12] <erisco> i am trying to run a setup.exe with wine, but it complains another setup is already running. However there isn't as far as i can see. What is happening?
[02:12] <keith> anyone in here running xcfe4 on ubunutu that can asnwer a question for me?
[02:12] <erisco> does wine just not support the program?
[02:12] <benplaut> shinshi: if anything can do it, this can:
[02:12] <benplaut> http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[02:12] <tony> mount: /dev/fd0 no es un dispositivo de bloques vlido
[02:12] <benplaut> keith: i used to... what's your question?
[02:12] <morbidi> tony: tu lo tengues floppy ?
[02:13] <h08817> i have a little problem here
[02:13] <benplaut> Snippy: then what are ou doing?!
[02:13] <keith> benplaut, thanks. alright- i run a laptop, so i need to have the volume plugin and battery percentage plugin on the bar
[02:13] <tony> tengues?
[02:13] <kaffeend> benplaut Um, still having trouble here - was advised to open et-linux-2.55.x86.run but it doesn't exist :s
[02:13] <keith> but it doesnt save it like that- how do i have it always start up with it on the menu bar?
[02:13] <morbidi> tony: yo lo esto in portugal
[02:13] <h08817> any1 good with helping me with an install problem
[02:13] <morbidi> yo soi portugues
[02:13] <tony> ha
[02:13] <tony> ok
[02:13] <shinshi> benplaut: cool, thanks :)
[02:13] <Snippy> benplaut, I cant tell
[02:13] <morbidi> nao falo castelhano
[02:14] <tony> como hace para invitar
[02:14] <morbidi> hablo
[02:14] <benplaut> kaffeend: look a bit farther down the page for "TC:Test"
[02:14] <Chaotic_Reality> i have a big problem. :) for some reason my filesystem went to read only, i rebooted and now I can't even boot up, it says grub,error code 17. anyone know what this means? should i just reinstall?
[02:14] <kaffeend> benplaut ok
[02:14] <tony> chat privado
[02:14] <morbidi> Chaotic_Reality: check gentoo grub errors :)
[02:14] <shinshi> benplaut: does it have anything to do with insmod/rmmod and all that?
[02:14] <benplaut> keith: well... i dunno. always works on my PDA, but that's using a system tray applet to do the work
[02:14] <h08817> when i tried to install ubuntu i got a weird error
[02:15] <benplaut> shinshi: i dunno... probably only the stuff in /etc/init.d
[02:15] <h08817> and the setup wouldn't continue
[02:15] <benplaut> what error?
[02:15] <shinshi> ah ok, thx
[02:15] <tony>  i can't moun the floppy
[02:15] <tony> i need help
[02:15] <brokeboy> just messed up my sourse.list. can anyone help out a newbie and give me a good script to use?
[02:16] <keith> hmm odd benplaut , thanks though.
[02:16] <benplaut> h08817: ....and the error is...
[02:16] <h08817> benplaut, ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.0: unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[02:16] <benplaut> keith: 'welcome
[02:16] <Chaotic_Reality> morbidi, doesn't help much. i just get put back at a black screen with the error. no ability to modify or look at anything
[02:16] <gpd> tony: if you translate your error i might be able to help
[02:16] <gpd> tony: i got the same error as you with my first command and then my second one it mounted ok
[02:16] <benplaut> h08817: right before you press enter to begin the setup, press F1 and look for the option that says no-acpi
[02:17] <morbidi> Chaotic_Reality: does your hd failed ?
[02:17] <morbidi> can you mount with a live cd your hd ?
[02:17] <h08817> benplaut, what is that for?
[02:17] <h08817> and what will it do
[02:17] <Chaotic_Reality> well i can boot off a cd and go through the install if i need to. i'd much rather repair it if i'm able to, but i have no idea how to go about that
[02:17] <tony> mount: /dev/fd0 is not a dipositive to the valid block
[02:17] <benplaut> h08817: well... the error says there's a ACPI error, so you run the setup without acpi :P  i dunno exactly what it does
[02:18] <h08817> so what do i type then
[02:18] <gpd> tony: are you sure it is formatted?
[02:18] <benplaut> look in the F1 menu
[02:18] <h08817> i hit f1 and then there are instructions so i should just follow them
[02:18] <gpd> tony: try installing mtools...
[02:18] <benplaut> yup
[02:18] <h08817> ok thanks i'll go see what happens
[02:19] <benplaut> g'luck :)
[02:19] <kaffeend> benplaut I'm lost
[02:20] <gpd> anyone know how to stop screen blanking (not screensaver) in gnome...
[02:20] <tony> ok
[02:20] <tony> and now
[02:21] <ray_> gpd, power save options
[02:21] <gpd> gpd: it is display power management you fool
[02:21] <musashi> turn off display power management
[02:21] <kaffeend> benplaut I've been trying to get at least 1 game to run since I installed Ubuntu - so far something has gone wrong with EVERY attempt
[02:21] <ray_> xfce!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:21] <deltab> gpd: Screensaver Preferences > Advanced > Display Power Management
[02:21] <gpd> thanks all... that was a bit stupid of me :)
[02:21] <benplaut> kaffeend: i can't truthfully say i've had better luck...
[02:21] <keith> what about xfce ray_?
[02:21] <monsterror> Hey everyone
[02:21] <reiki> newbie here... first install of this distro... I chose "server" at install... should I have just chosen "default". I can't find doc on what the difference is. Thanks
[02:22] <ray_> keith, i like it
[02:22] <keith> me too
[02:22] <keith> i use it on my laptop linux system (this one here)
[02:22] <keith> i just wish it could pck up my volume buttons
[02:22] <benplaut> it's good for PDA, but there are some things i hate for desktop...
[02:22] <monsterror> Anyone know a good wireless config program? I've heard of one called kwifi or something, but I cant find the package when I do apt-get
[02:22] <ray_> keith, can i enable system sounds?
[02:22] <tony>  i can't moun the floppy
[02:22] <tony> i need help
[02:22] <benplaut> ubotu tell monsterror about gtkwifi
[02:23] <benplaut> damn you, ubotu
[02:23] <juanej> is alsa the best choise or output? cause mine sounds like sit
[02:23] <keith> what do you mean ray_ ?
[02:23] <kaffeend> benplaut maybe it's my hardware - having an Amiga platform might help...
[02:23] <gpd> tony: wtf!? did you install mtools?
[02:23] <benplaut> monsterror: just a sec, i'll gte you a link
[02:23] <tony> yes
[02:23] <gpd> tony: mdir a:
[02:23] <ray_> keith, like hmmmm sounds like in gnome and kde.....like on startup?
[02:23] <keith> never really tried it.
[02:23] <tony> Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address
[02:23] <tony> Cannot initialize 'A:'
[02:24] <gpd> sounds like your floppy is not plugged in :)
[02:24] <tony> ok
[02:24] <benplaut> monsterror: try this:
[02:24] <benplaut> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49148
[02:24] <gpd> tony: dmesg | grep fd0
[02:24] <tony> ans
[02:24] <tony> and
[02:24] <tony> what i do?
[02:25] <benplaut> kaffeend: Amiga?!
[02:25] <monsterror> Thanks Benplaut
[02:25] <gpd> tony: dmesg | grep fd0
[02:25] <tony> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
[02:25] <tony> end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[02:25] <kaffeend> benplaut yeah, my AMD64 bit super-machine is way too over the top for Linux methinks ;)
[02:25] <gpd> tony: what is on this floppy?
[02:26] <benplaut> kaffeend: try SuSE... it's much better for games
[02:26] <tony> amd64
[02:26] <thwack> so far so good
[02:26] <gpd> tony: amd64 is a chip... what is on the floppy? and use gpd: prefix...
[02:26] <vladuz976> can anybody tell me what i need to install to install stuff from cvs?
[02:26] <Chromance_> Is Debian much better then Ubuntu?
[02:26] <kaffeend> benplaut I'm not installing another distro - the next install will be windows xp - I'm sure it's better than SUSE for games
[02:27] <tony> gpd amd64
[02:27] <benplaut> vladuz: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:27] <hubsi> WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support.   WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") <- what addr does it mean?
[02:27] <benplaut> kaffeend: true... true...
[02:27] <gpd> tony: are you taking the piss?
[02:27] <student> haiiiiiiiii
[02:27] <thwack> real fast, anyone have an ubuntu "quick start" link for things like, java, flash player, mp3, divx, ntfs etc.?
[02:27] <benplaut> hi
[02:28] <juanej> why there is no azureus on synaptic anymore?
[02:28] <benplaut> ubotu tell thwak about ubuntuguide
[02:28] <student> what haveen
[02:28] <h08817> ubuntuguide
[02:28] <kaffeend> gpd maybe Tony has "Ubuntu 5.04 amd64" on the disk?
[02:28] <benplaut> yes, you seem like a student...
[02:28] <h08817> ubuntu guide
[02:28] <vladuz976> benplaut: aclocal: configure.in: 17: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library
[02:28] <h08817> it is ok
[02:28] <vladuz976> benplaut:  i got build essentials
[02:28] <gpd> kaffeend: on a floppy!
[02:29] <vladuz976> vladuz976: but this is what i am getting when i try autogen.sh
[02:29] <kaffeend> gdp oops - missed that bit
[02:29] <benplaut> vladuz967: i'm no expert on it... if it works, good. if it fails, then i just forget about it
[02:29] <Draucon> quit
[02:29] <Dr_Fate> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:  	2.6.12.4 	2005-08-05 21:11 UTC 	
[02:29] <Dr_Fate> When will we see this lernel?
[02:29] <kaffeend> gdp maybe someone's invented a super-floppy?
[02:29] <hubsi> in breezy
[02:29] <benplaut> kaffeend: that's a ZIP disk :P
[02:30] <kaffeend> benplaut or a flash-floppy
[02:30] <h08817> what is a good p2p program for linux?
[02:30] <benplaut> h0: limewire
[02:30] <musashi> called a ls120=p
[02:30] <h08817> how do i install limewire on linux?
[02:30] <kaffeend> benplaut I can't even work out how to install limewire :s
[02:30] <monsterror> Does anyone know the command line to get into Network settings?
[02:30] <Snippy> alien'ing the rpm now
[02:30] <Snippy> gg
[02:30] <deltab> h08817: p2p software to do what?
[02:31] <Snippy> it loads and loads.. its a 200 mb rpm <.<
[02:31] <h08817> to download stuff
[02:31] <ray_> kaffeend, limewire......do you have java
[02:31] <benplaut> kaffeend: instructions at ubuntuguide
[02:31] <h08817> ok thanks
[02:31] <deltab> what's a good client program for linux?
[02:31] <kaffeend> benplaut I have /home/me/Desktop/tcetest_0209_full.zip
[02:31] <tony>  i can't moun the floppy
[02:31] <Dr_Fate> anyone here using the 2.6.11-k7?
[02:31] <tony> i need help
[02:31] <benplaut> monsterror: "gksudo gnome-network-settings" maybe
[02:32] <joan> bufffffffffffff :S
[02:32] <kaffeend> ray_ yes I do - how'd you go with TCElite?
[02:32] <joan> sokorro xD
[02:32] <benplaut> kaffeend... and the is supposed to meen...
[02:32] <tony>  i can't moun the floppy
[02:32] <tony> i need help
[02:32] <ray_> kaffeend, i didnt like it as much as regular ET
[02:32] <benplaut> tony: we heard you already!
[02:32] <erisco> hello, i am trying to run a setup with wine, but it complains another setup is already running. But there doesn't appear to be another one running.... what is wrong?
[02:32] <erisco> i can elaborate more if needed
[02:32] <benplaut> tony: stop being reduntent
[02:32] <kaffeend> benplaut sorry I meant /home/me/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm
[02:32] <monsterror> That didn't work, Ben
[02:33] <benplaut> monsterror: i dunno...
[02:33] <kaffeend> ray_ well I don't like it as much as watching paint dry right now
[02:33] <monsterror> So no one knows the command line to get into the network settings?
[02:33] <erisco> ifconfig
[02:33] <benplaut> monsterror: found it... "network-admin"
[02:33] <ray_> kaffeend, if you want to play those games bad enough you might have to change back to winblows
[02:33] <crimsun> or ip a
[02:33] <monsterror> That just tells me my IP
[02:34] <erisco> monsterror, ifconfig should work no?
[02:34] <monsterror> Thanks ben
[02:34] <kaffeend> ray_ okay
[02:34] <erisco> oh i c
[02:34] <benplaut> kaffeend: "sudo alien -i /home/me/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm"
[02:34] <tony>  i can't mount the floppy
[02:34] <monsterror> network-admin was it, Thanks Ben
[02:34] <erisco> you said settings, not to configure the settings
[02:34] <benplaut> and then dpkg -i the .deb it makes
[02:34] <tony> i need help
[02:34] <benplaut> tony: shut up
[02:34] <kaffeend> but I'd like to keep Ubuntu to learn the command line - can't seem to reinstall windows now :(
[02:34] <Amaranth> benplaut: ...
[02:34] <f_newton> that doesnt help you set up cards...that only lets you see cards that were dectected
[02:34] <benplaut> sorry...
[02:35] <f_newton> thats kind of a weak spot in ubuntu
[02:35] <benplaut> it's getting on my nerves...
[02:35] <benplaut> i'm in a bad mood today... i shouldn't be online...
[02:35] <shinshi> hey benplaut
[02:35] <f_newton> tony a modern linux kernel should automount your floppy ... what seems to be the trouble?
[02:35] <cafuego_> beagle has indexed 46,000 emails
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> Canoeingkidd: lucky you
[02:36] <shinshi> benplaut: you may be in a bad mood, but you're really nice for helping out
[02:36] <cafuego_> and it's _fast_ :-)
[02:36] <benplaut> shinshi: welcome...
[02:36] <crimsun> obviously men have monthly cycles, too. :P
[02:36] <f_newton> uh monthly?
[02:36] <brokeboy> i erased my repositories in sorces.list! does anyone have a good back up they could let me copy?
[02:36] <f_newton> lol
[02:36] <crimsun> f_newton: sure, or maybe it's weekly or even daily.
[02:36] <shinshi> crimsun: i'd say daily
[02:36] <shinshi> heh
[02:36] <erisco> brokeboy, can't you just add them again?
[02:36] <f_newton> daily I'd say knowing me
[02:37] <f_newton> but then I howl at the moon
[02:37] <kaffeend> benplaut that command returns: File "/home/me/Desktop/LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.
[02:37] <brokeboy> where can i go to get a new list. sorry im new at this. started today
[02:37] <reiki> is the boot-to-GUI the only real difference between choosing "server" or "default" at install time?
[02:37] <Canoeingkidd> HrdwrBoB: bad tab complete?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> Canoeingkidd: yes
[02:37] <erisco> brokeboy, there is a ubuntu guide
[02:38] <vladuz976> does anybody know what zlib.h is?
[02:38] <erisco> let me get it for you
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> Canoeingkidd: I didn't even realise until you said that :)
[02:38] <ray_> kaffeend, where did you download limewire
[02:38] <Doonz> ubutunguide.org
[02:38] <Canoeingkidd> lol
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> vladuz976: you need the package zlib-dev
[02:38] <benplaut> kaffeend: try "cd /home/me/Desktop" and then "alien -i LimewireLinux.rpm"
[02:38] <kaffeend> ray_ can't remember
[02:38] <f_newton> Amaranth, I could be wrong but I think tony is baiting people in here.
[02:38] <kaffeend> benplaut ok
[02:38] <ray_> kaffeend, then thats never gonna work
[02:38] <ray_> kaffeend, open term and type sudo updatedb
[02:38] <benplaut> ray_: worked for me...
[02:39] <flugh> vladuz976: do a 'dpkg -S zlib.h'
[02:39] <Fizile> any ebook readers for linux, to display a .txt with scrolling and font options?  not just a browser or a text editor
[02:39] <ray_> benplaut, yeah because you knew your path
[02:39] <keith> hey guys- ive been using apt-get lately, but it keeps asking for a ubunutu cd i dont got.
[02:39] <keith> how can i make it stop doing that?
[02:39] <The_Vox> Fizile: I've never found one...if you find one, let me know :)
[02:39] <keith> or circumvent it?
[02:39] <crimsun> vladuz976: it's in zlib1g-dev if you want it. It's the development package for zlib.
[02:39] <flugh> vladuz976: you'll see what packages contain similarly named files. then just apt-get install <the appropriate package>
[02:39] <vladuz976> flugh: HrdwrBoB i got it but autogen.sh still complains
[02:39] <Fizile> The_Vox, alright i will
[02:39] <The_Vox> keikoz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line that points to your cd
[02:40] <ray_> keith, edit your sources.list
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> vladuz976: rm .config.cache
[02:40] <keith> thanks vox.
[02:40] <The_Vox> Fizile: I actually use a windows ebook reader under wine
[02:40] <keith> is it something i could do in synaptic too?
[02:40] <Fizile> which one?
[02:40] <vladuz976> HrdwrBoB: "configure: error: "Cannot find zlib.h. Make sure your CFLAGS environment variable contains"
[02:40] <flugh> vladuz976: maybe your include path is bad. do a ./configure --help and see if you can add an --include-path='pathtozlib.h' to it
[02:40] <logical_mark> hey guys what is a good linux itunes?
[02:40] <Fizile> i tried out ice book reader, but had some problems, as well as microsoft reader
[02:40] <keith> logical- there isnt a good one
[02:40] <keith> it was closed down by apple not too long ago
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> logical_mark: rhythmbox is the gnome equivalent
[02:40] <logical_mark> keith, that sucks
[02:40] <Fizile> logical_mark, rhythmbox is similiar
[02:40] <keith> logical_mark,  i suggest you use rythm box to upload to your ipod
[02:40] <HrdwrBoB> logical_mark: gtkpod is the ipod program
[02:41] <ray_> what is a nickname for william?
[02:41] <keith> logical_mark, and i suggest you anti-drm your itunes music first
[02:41] <kaffeend> ray_ done
[02:41] <vladuz976> flugh: you mean ./autogen.sh --helpf
[02:41] <Fizile> ray_, bill
[02:41] <W|cked> Congratulations! Fizile has said the Mystery Word! "bill" was the word.
[02:41] <tony>  i can't mount the floppy
[02:41] <logical_mark> well I dont have an Ipod
[02:41] <keith> logical_mark: otherwise it wouldn't mark
[02:41] <tony> i need help
[02:41] <tony>  i can't mount the floppy
[02:41] <keith> work*
[02:41] <Snippy> tony
[02:41] <ray_> kaffeend, now do a ......loacte limewire
[02:41] <Snippy> stop it
[02:41] <logical_mark> I just have a crap load of music so and itunes organizes it so well and search is great
[02:41] <benplaut> tony: we have heard you many times already
[02:41] <flugh> vladuz976: ok, maybe so. i was assuming you were doing a 'configure/make/make install' thing :)
[02:41] <The_Vox> Fizile: uhm...I'd need to check on monday, computer that has it installed isn't here at home :)
[02:41] <f_newton> Amaranth, see he just keeps saying Icant mount the floppy I need help... when I asked to help him he just ignored me
[02:41] <keith> did you buy it from itunes logical?
[02:42] <Snippy> benplaut, I followed the steps with alien etc.. installed the deb, where did it got installed? oO
[02:42] <keith> cause if you did and dont anti-drm , you cant play that music on linux.
[02:42] <kaffeend> ray_ you mean locate?
[02:42] <ray_> kaffeend, oops yeah
[02:42] <benplaut> Snippy: umm... i dunno
[02:42] <Fizile> The_Vox, no ideas or, "it sounds like banana" esque tips heh
[02:42] <logical_mark> keith, no I didnt buy it from itunes
[02:42] <benplaut> .debs get installed "all over the place"
[02:42] <tony> i only need help i this dificult
[02:42] <kaffeend> ray_ got 10 entries for it
[02:42] <vladuz976> flugh: this --help is hard to read. what do i need to look for?
[02:42] <keith> ah you're fine then logical
[02:42] <logical_mark> keith, I just like the way itunes organizes my music and its interface is great
[02:43] <keith> hmmm then ryhthm box
[02:43] <The_Vox> Fizile: it's been installed for over a year, so I don't really remember lol
[02:43] <logical_mark> thanks
[02:43] <tony> please i need mount the floppy to my work
[02:43] <keith> and yeah i like it too
[02:43] <benplaut> tony: it's quite possible... likely even... that nobody reading the chatroom knows an answer to your question
[02:43] <flugh> vladuz976: i'd be looking for a way to specify an --include-path= argument
[02:43] <keith> a shame they dont port to linux
[02:43] <Fizile> logical_mark, i would have to agree its good stuff
[02:43] <flugh> do a ./configure --help | less
[02:43] <flugh> (the | is a 'pipe', above the backslash \
[02:43] <f_newton> tony choose places on your upper taskbar menu and choose floppy to mount your floppy drove
[02:43] <ray_> kaffeend, which one is the rpm?
[02:43] <f_newton> uh drive
[02:43] <adman> ubotu: i am getting errors
[02:43] <ubotu> adman: No idea
[02:44] <kaffeend> ray_ none
[02:44] <kaffeend> ray_ they're all under BitTorrent
[02:44] <vladuz976> flugh:  nothing like that in ther
[02:44] <h08817> sweet limewire is so fast compared to aMule
[02:44] <kaffeend> ray_ which isn't actually on my desktop at all
[02:44] <samu> what does the rc stand for in most linux config files?
[02:44] <ray_> kaffeend, you got it from bittorrent?
[02:45] <kaffeend> ray_ no I've not even used BitTorrent
[02:45] <tony>        missing codepage or other error
[02:45] <tony>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:45] <tony>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> I have a .tar.gz.gpg and I don't have a the gpg key but I remember the passphrase
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> can I use it to unlock the files?
[02:46] <benplaut> rename it to .tar.gz :P
[02:46] <jharrison> what repositories to use for mplayer?
[02:46] <ray_> kaffeend, give me an example of the limewire file name
[02:46] <adman> ubotu: this is generating errors>>fakeroot make - jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[02:46] <ubotu> adman: what are you talking about?
[02:46] <ray_> kaffeend, you downloaded it from the limewire site?
[02:46] <keith> whats the best dvd player for ubuntu guys?
[02:47] <benplaut> keith: i like totem
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> it's encrypted you dummy.
[02:47] <cafuego_> adman: ubotu is a piec eof software, not a human
[02:47] <ray_> keikoz, mplayer
[02:47] <kaffeend> ray_ in the week that I've been "using" Linux I have successfully installed nvidia drivers (which don't work) and listen to .mp3s.... That's it!
[02:47] <benplaut> adman: u-BOT-u :P
[02:47] <cafuego_> though it IS smarter then some humans
[02:47] <keith> totem is yet to work for me benplaut
[02:47] <ray_> kaffeend, so you didnt even download the limewire file?
[02:47] <keith> on either computer that i have totem on.
[02:47] <kaffeend> /home/me/Desktop/BitTorrent/usr/bin/limewire
[02:47] <_SWAT_> anyone know how I can start the ATI control panel from a terminal?
[02:47] <benplaut> cafuego: oh, be quiet :P
[02:47] <benplaut> (the creator)
[02:47] <jharrison> I like kplayer except looks like im going to have to compile it myself if there are no repositories that supply mplayer etc...
[02:48] <kaffeend> ray_ I have downloaded it
[02:48] <kaffeend> ray_ it is sitting on my desktop as file:///home/dan1/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm
[02:48] <vladuz976> can anybody help me please? i don't know why my ./autogen.sh complains about something that is installed
[02:48] <kaffeend> ray_ and inside it is lots of files
[02:48] <kaffeend> ray_ believe me I do have it
[02:48] <cafuego_> benplaut: what are you talking about?
[02:48] <ray_> kaffeend, well then you know where you downloaded it to dont you
[02:49] <benplaut> kaffeend: "alien -i /home/dan1/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm"
[02:49] <ray_> YUP
[02:49] <h08817> r u guys talking about limewire setup?
[02:49] <benplaut> cafuego: proud of your creation :P
[02:49] <adman> benplaut: i am getting errors installing java using this command fakeroot make - jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[02:49] <kaffeend> benplaut I tried that already and it didn't work
[02:49] <cafuego_> benplaut: Syntax error, what are you on about?
[02:49] <ray_> adman, what errors?
[02:49] <cafuego_> benplaut: No, ubotu is dumb, it's just that i've notice some humans are even dumber ;-)
[02:50] <ray_> kaffeend, move it to your home directory
[02:50] <benplaut> true...
[02:50] <adman> benplaut:  *** No rule to make target `jpkg'.  Stop.
[02:50] <benplaut> adman: i never said i could help :P
[02:50] <juanej> why doesnt sudo apt-get install azureus work???
[02:50] <benplaut> i'm a noob at compiling...
[02:50] <cafuego_> adman: make-jpkg, no spaces
[02:50] <benplaut> !azureus
[02:50] <Amaranth> juanej: because azureus isn't in the repositories
[02:50] <ubotu> benplaut: Wish i knew
[02:50] <kaffeend> ray_ I can't. It says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder"
[02:51] <f_newton> yes cafuego we should all be blessed with your huge intellect
[02:51] <ray_> kaffeend, to your home directory?
[02:51] <juanej> but in ubuntuguide.org says that i have to write that down
[02:51] <benplaut> kaffeend: "sudo alien -i /home/dan1/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm"
[02:51] <kaffeend> ray_ yes
[02:51] <ray_> kaffeend, what the hell did ya do
[02:51] <juanej> Amaranth: how do i install it then?
[02:51] <ray_> kaffeend, are you logged in as root?
[02:51] <benplaut> juanej: look on ubuntuguide
[02:51] <juanej> already
[02:51] <kaffeend> ray_ no
[02:52] <juanej> qbeek: How to install P2P BitTorrent Client (Azureus)?
[02:52] <juanej> Q How to install P2P BitTorrent Client (Azureus)?
[02:52] <cafuego_> benplaut: See, there's an example. Can't read and makes stupid assumptions.
[02:52] <juanej> sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:52] <ray_> kaffeend, open file manager and just drag it in there
[02:52] <juanej> it doesnt work
[02:52] <kaffeend> ray_ I was told never to install games/apps while logged in as root
[02:52] <benplaut> ubotu tell juanej about repos
[02:53] <benplaut> i think it's in the repos?
[02:53] <deltab> juanej: Let's fix that "Q:" thing. Are you using x-chat?
[02:53] <kaffeend> ray_ that's what I just tried but it said I don't have permissions
[02:53] <ray_> kaffeend, well if you dont have permission to write to your own home folder it made me think you were root
[02:53] <juanej> yep
[02:53] <rngrmatti> Anyone have a problem with sound using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2?
[02:53] <ray_> what is you comp name? it will be the folder /home/*you*
[02:53] <ray_> rngrmatti, compile the new alsa
[02:54] <kaffeend> benplaut I did it and I got this back
[02:54] <kaffeend> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[02:54] <kaffeend> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[02:54] <kaffeend> dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
[02:54] <kaffeend> make: *** [binary-arch]  Error 1
[02:54] <kaffeend> find: LimeWire-free-4.9.11: No such file or directory
[02:54] <benplaut> ooohhh
[02:54] <rngrmatti> ok so just download the new ALSA driver from their site?
[02:54] <benplaut> you're on a 64bit
[02:54] <deltab> juanej: go to Settings > Preferences... > Interface > Input box and turn off Automatic nick completion
[02:54] <ray_> kaffeend, what folders are in your home folder
[02:54] <benplaut> kaffeend: there's your problem :P
[02:54] <tony> jajaajja
[02:54] <kaffeend> benplaut_ I thought you knew - sorry
[02:55] <benplaut> yes, tony?
[02:55] <kaffeend> ray_ lots
[02:55] <cafuego_> kaffeend: Do you have access to a 32bit box to convert that package?
[02:55] <juanej> ok
[02:55] <levander> Anybody knows how to clean sharpie ink off a DVD?
[02:55] <kaffeend> cafuego_ no I don't
[02:55] <tony> jajaja
[02:55] <tony> lite problem
[02:55] <tony> kakakkaa
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> levander: petrol
[02:55] <shinshi> levander: isopropyl alcohol
[02:55] <benplaut> levander: alcahol pad
[02:55] <rngrmatti> just use alcohol
[02:55] <juanej> so how do i install azureus?
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> levander: though it will also eat the DVD
[02:55] <ray_> kaffeend, so its /home/*you* that you need to move that file to
[02:55] <h08817> i have a question about synaptic
[02:55] <kaffeend> maybe I need to wait for a year or 2
[02:55] <cafuego_> that's a waste of good vodka
[02:55] <impreza> hola
[02:55] <benplaut> juanej: i guess try the wiki...
[02:55] <kaffeend> ray_ I'll try it
[02:56] <juanej> ok
[02:56] <deltab> juanej: you can still complete names by pressing the Tab key, but "Q:" etc. won't be changed automatically
[02:56] <h08817> i want to delete something and it give me 2 options remove and complete removal
[02:56] <levander> it will eat the DVD even if the sharpie ink is not on the writable side?
[02:56] <cafuego_> kaffeend: Shall I volunteer?
[02:56] <impreza> hi
[02:56] <ray_> kaffeend, do you understand what i mean by *you*
[02:56] <adman> cafuego: I am getting errors
[02:56] <impreza> gato
[02:56] <kaffeend> ray_ yep
[02:56] <kaffeend> ray_ it worked
[02:56] <cafuego_> adman: paste them to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:56] <ray_> kaffeend, well yeah
[02:56] <shinshi> levander: take a cotton ball, put some isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol on it, rub from the inner hole to the outside
[02:56] <kaffeend> cafuego_ to "look after" my box?
[02:57] <cafuego_> kaffeend: No, to run alien and give you  a.deb
[02:57] <tony> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  autofs    rw,user,noauto 0
[02:57] <tony> help
[02:57] <ray_> kaffeend, now do .......sudo alien /home/*you*/*nameoflimewirer
[02:57] <levander> shinshi: HrdwrBoB says it will eat the DVD, it will eat it even if the sharpie ink is not on the computer writable side of the DVD?  It's on the side that you're supposed to write on to label it.
[02:57] <kaffeend> cafuego_ I don't know what you're talking about, but I kinda want to get a game working more than anything... /sigh
[02:58] <shinshi> i swear, this touchpad deal is driving me nuts
[02:58] <kaffeend> ray_ ok 1 sec
[02:58] <cafuego_> kaffeend: Sorry, i thought you were having limewire issues
[02:58] <shinshi> levander: it will not eat the dvd
[02:58] <kaffeend> cafuego_ I'm having Linux issues!
[02:58] <levander> okay, guys, thanks for the advice! I'm gonna try it with the cotton ball.
[02:58] <cafuego_> kaffeend: <heh>
[02:59] <tony> heeelllllpppp PLEASE
[02:59] <cafuego_> kaffeend: Mebbe going to 32bit would solve a lot of hassles.
[02:59] <erisco> i am trying to run a setup.exe with wine, but it comlpains another setup.exe is already running, when one isn't
[02:59] <benplaut> tony: ...
[02:59] <tony> my work depende of this
[02:59] <tony> what
[02:59] <benplaut> well, maybe nobody in here knows
[02:59] <vladuz976> can anybody tell me what CFLAGS deos
[02:59] <tony> ?
[02:59] <tony> you say
[02:59] <Xyc1> I am having trouble looking up the strength of my wireless, is that because I am using ndiswrapper?
[03:00] <benplaut> Xyc1: yup
[03:00] <tony> that nobody can mount a floppy?
[03:00] <cafuego_> vladuz976: is sets GCC parameters in an env variable. ./configure will pick 'em up and use 'em
[03:00] <ray_> brb FAMILY GUY IS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:00] <benplaut> tony: well... yours might not work like ours do
[03:00] <vladuz976> cafuego_: i don't have an env like this one
[03:00] <Xyc1> benplaut: does that stop every wireless program, or just the gnome applet?
[03:00] <cafuego_> vladuz976: There isn't normally a need for it on ubuntu.
[03:00] <benplaut> tony: if the commands people have already given you don't work, then...
[03:00] <benplaut> Xyc1: all of them...
[03:01] <vladuz976> cafuego_: i am trying to install from cvs an autogen.sh complains about it
[03:01] <tony> sabes
[03:01] <kaffeend> cafuego_ what? Windows is 32 bit and I can guarantee it works, but people keep telling me that Linux is worth all the hassels so I'm thinkin that I'm in for a real treat being that this is a big fucking hassel
[03:01] <Xyc1> benplaut: anything I can do about it?
[03:01] <tony> que
[03:01] <tony> benplaut
[03:01] <tony> mete un palo
[03:01] <tony> en el culo
[03:01] <tony> FORRO DEL ORTO
[03:01] <cafuego_> !es
[03:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:01] <tony> COSETE EL ORTO
[03:01] <tony> CON HILO DE CHORIZO
[03:01] <Quest-Master> .
[03:02] <tony> COMO MIERDA NO VAS A SABER MONTAR UN FLOPPY
[03:02] <Fizile> taco...
[03:02] <kaffeend> hey
[03:02] <morbidi> tony: para de dizer asneiras caralho
[03:02] <cafuego_> kaffeend: Well, yes and no. A lot of end-user software is still 32bit and doesn't port particularly well. Examples being cedega, w32codecs and flash.
[03:02] <morbidi> :)
[03:02] <benplaut> JackDaniels: not much you can do...
[03:02] <cafuego_> tony: Would you mind disabling capslock?
[03:02] <tony> morbidi
[03:02] <tony> porque mierdo
[03:02] <Quest-Master> good idea to set up a 32-bit chroot for 64-bit users.
[03:02] <tony> no aprendes a hablar
[03:02] <kaffeend> cafuego_ yeah, all the things I came here for
[03:02] <Fizile> lol JackDaniels can do quite a bit
[03:02] <tony> bien espaol
[03:03] <cafuego_> tony: And use #ubuntu-es if you need to curse at me in spanish.
[03:03] <morbidi> tony: se hablares english e mejor
[03:03] <morbidi> tony: porque ja sei falar
[03:03] <morbidi> tony: aprende a minha lingua se quiseres
[03:03] <morbidi> tony: do
[03:03] <tony> mata
[03:03] <tony> gilll de cuarta
[03:03] <cafuego_> kaffeend: In time they _will_ be ported to 64bit...
[03:03] <morbidi> tony: do you have fd0 has your floppy disk ?
[03:04] <kaffeend> cafuego_ yes, in time... I'm waiting for a fix on this nvidia.glx bug now
[03:04] <cafuego_> tony: 'sudo apt-get install mtools; sudo modprobe floppy; sudo mdir a:'
[03:04] <DrCert> I have ubuntu installed on a vmware guest
[03:04] <DrCert> how much memory should i give it to let it function properly
[03:04] <cafuego_> DrCert: 256Mb or more.
[03:04] <benplaut> DrCert: 256 should be enough
[03:04] <tony> root@pirri:/home/tony # sudo mdir a:
[03:04] <cafuego_> DrCert: ideally 512, if you can.
[03:04] <tony> Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address
[03:04] <tony> Cannot initialize 'A:'
[03:04] <kaffeend> I have another game here that keeps giving me errors
[03:05] <DrCert> ok i have 2 gigs of ram
[03:05] <skalpel> is there an app i can use to edit id tags for music files?
[03:05] <JackDaniels> eh
[03:05] <cafuego_> tony: You need the floppy driver and appear to not have it loaded.
[03:05] <morbidi> tony: you don't have floppy in that device
[03:05] <morbidi> search another
[03:05] <cafuego_> DrCert: the more the merrier in that case
[03:05] <vladuz976> where can i find out more about cflags in ubuntu?
[03:05] <cafuego_> vladuz976: why do you need to know about CFLAGS?
[03:05] <DrCert> what kernel should i use? i386?
[03:05] <DrCert> or just leave it alone
[03:05] <cafuego_> DrCert: what cpu do you have?
[03:05] <web250> drcert: what is ur cpu?
[03:06] <kaffeend> does anyone feel like giving me a hand installing Americas Army please?
[03:06] <vladuz976> cafuego_: because i am stuck, my installation wont'work because of it
[03:06] <DrCert> amd64 3000
[03:06] <cafuego_> vladuz976: What installation?
[03:06] <DrCert> err athlon 64
[03:06] <cafuego_> DrCert: -k7
[03:06] <vladuz976> cafuego_: e17 from cvs
[03:06] <DrCert> inside vmware?
[03:06] <web250> heheh
[03:06] <cafuego_> !tell vladuz976 -about compiling
[03:06] <cafuego_> DrCert: Yep
[03:07] <vladuz976> cafuego_: what was that
[03:07] <cafuego_> vladuz976: ubotu should have justs ent you some good advice
[03:07] <web250> anyone know a good linux prog thatll do what eprompter does in windows?
[03:07] <kaffeend> !crack
[03:07] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[03:07] <kaffeend> lol
[03:08] <Fizile> !weed
[03:08] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Fizile
[03:08] <vladuz976> cafuego_: how am i gonna learn my system then? if i always go take the easy route?
[03:08] <Fizile> yeah sure buddy
[03:08] <Fizile> i think you know EXACTLY what im talking about
[03:08] <kaffeend> ubotu is smoking weed right now
[03:08] <ubotu> kaffeend: I give up, what is it?
[03:08] <cafuego_> vladuz976: How is wrecking your system going to help you learn?
[03:08] <reiki> ok... install failed when copying all other packages to hard drive. It's a 20gig drive. I need more? I've had fedora and debian on that machine and they didn't eat the drive. Can I skip copying everything else and how?
[03:09] <cafuego_> vladuz976: If e won compile, you undoubtedly need headers, not a gcc switch in cflags.
[03:09] <vladuz976> cafuego_: it is obviously not going to help me to wreck my system, but i am not trying to do that. i am trying to install something and pick up some knowledge on the way
[03:09] <f_newton> fizile !DEA
[03:10] <cafuego_> vladuz976: Consider "use packages and not tarballs whenever you can" a more important lesson ;-)
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> anyone got an outline tool?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> something to design outlines in
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> rather than OOo
[03:10] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: inkscape
[03:10] <vladuz976> cafuego_: yeah that is the same as in windows then, no?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  no not that kind of outline
[03:11] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: What outline then?
[03:11] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: dia?
[03:11] <bluefoxicy> that's for flowcharts.
[03:11] <cafuego_> define outline, then.
[03:12] <cafuego_> vladuz976: I throught there was an e17 deb somewhere... best bet is to find the associated source deb and customise that to build your own e17 deb.
[03:12] <benplaut> try "smoon"'s repo
[03:12] <kaffeend> America's Army is installing! omg
[03:12] <vladuz976> cafuego_: yeah there is actually a repo maintained by smoon, but i know i can do it that way, but that is not my point
[03:13] <cafuego_> vladuz976: Why are you insisting on learning the hard way?
[03:13] <vladuz976> cafuego_: do you know another way?
[03:13] <cafuego_> vladuz976: Yes.
[03:13] <vladuz976> cafuego_: what would that be?
[03:13] <cafuego_> vladuz976: The "maybe you are right and I should try to learn by not wrekcing things"
[03:14] <benplaut> what?!
[03:14] <cafuego_> vladuz976: If you want to compile and break stuff, sure.. but don't ask for *assistance* in doing so.
[03:14] <benplaut> the only way to learn is by wrecking things!
[03:14] <web250> is procmeter3 the best option for displaying stats on desktop....or something else?
[03:14] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  there was some app on gpe that did outlines, it had a lightbulb for an icon and stuff, could collapse sections. . .
[03:14] <cafuego_> 'rm -rf /'is far quicker ;-)
[03:14] <vladuz976> cafuego_: you still haven't told me how to learn it otherwise
[03:15] <cafuego_> vladuz976: I _did_ mention the source deb, didn't I?
[03:15] <cafuego_> you could even grep that for CFLAGS
[03:15] <vladuz976> cafuego_: that only helps me install it
[03:15] <yuacht> where do ubuntu stash my icons?
[03:15] <DrCert> ok wish me luck
[03:15] <cafuego_> vladuz976: no, it allows you to see EXACTLY how a working compile functions.
[03:15] <DrCert> gonna reboot into this new kernl
[03:16] <bimberi> yuacht: mostly in /usr/share/pixmaps
[03:17] <vladuz976> cafuego_: ok i guess then i'll give that a try
[03:17] <zer0`> does ubuntu have a program for seeing what partitions i have?
[03:17] <cafuego_> vladuz976: Notable the debian/rules file, which is used to run all commands
[03:17] <Ranger> howdy all
[03:17] <cafuego_> zer0`: 'df'
[03:18] <deltab> zer0`: Applications > System Tools > GParted
[03:18] <Ranger> anyone around?
[03:19] <Madpilot> is GParted installed by default? I thought I'd added it...
[03:19] <Zodiac> Hey guys, what is a good CD ripper??
[03:19] <Madpilot> Zodiac: Sound Juicer
[03:19] <deltab> Madpilot: I have it (live cd)
[03:19] <Zodiac> The default ripper?
[03:19] <zer0`> dont think i have gparted installed, got the cd a few months ago though
[03:19] <Zodiac> mine is slow as molassis(sp)
[03:20] <Madpilot> deltab: OK, interesting
[03:20] <vladuz976> what is the zlib package called in ubuntu? aptitude can't find zlib?
[03:20] <Madpilot> zer0`: search Synaptic for it then
[03:20] <zer0`> ok, thanks
[03:21] <deltab> vladuz976: try libz
[03:21] <Madpilot> vladuz976: zlib1g? compression util stuff?
[03:21] <synd_> anyone use XPDE and Ubuntu?
[03:21] <Horstderschwulea> Hello Aka
[03:22] <aka_druid> Horstderschwulea, Im watchin you
[03:22] <vladuz976> Madpilot: thanks
[03:22] <benplaut> synd_: i haven't yet heard of someone doing it successfully...
[03:22] <Horstderschwulea> I want to suck you
[03:22] <aru> hmm
[03:22] <synd_> benplaut: really? hmm..
[03:22] <aru> interesting
[03:22] <f_newton> what kind of crap am I having to see in here?
[03:22] <synd_> benplaut: what problems exist?
[03:22] <benplaut> i dunno...
[03:22] <benplaut> but i hear alot about failure
[03:22] <Horstderschwulea> Hello aka theres a chat
[03:23] <synd_> benplaut: i see.
[03:23] <Horstderschwulea> Hello aka?
[03:23] <Horstderschwulea> huhun aka
[03:24] <Horstderschwulea> Aka I want to be your bitch
[03:24] <Horstderschwulea> Aka suck my dick
[03:24] <Horstderschwulea> You sucks like suse
[03:24] <Horstderschwulea> I hope you swallow, too
[03:25] <Quest-Master> .
[03:25] <benplaut> hmm
[03:25] <vladuz976> Madpilot: pilot do you know what i need for libjpeg?
[03:25] <hondje> I need to open up ##troll, teach you kids how to do it
[03:25] <benplaut> Horst: i recommend you be quiet
[03:25] <cafuego_> !ops
[03:25] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[03:25] <flugh> cool, i'm not the only absolute moronic idiot in the world
[03:25] <flugh> here i was thinking i was the only bottom feeder around :()
[03:25] <aka_druid> hondje, if you od it, Ill join heh
[03:25] <f_newton> excuse me but must we put up with this obscene crap ?  I thought there were ops in here
[03:25] <Madpilot> hondje: you're going to run a school for trolls?
[03:26] <hondje> Madpilot: I think I should
[03:26] <cafuego_> thanks guys
[03:26] <aka_druid> Horstderschwulea, 2 bans in 5 minutes.. you are good
[03:26] <benplaut> thanks
[03:26] <hondje> High quality trolling is an art
[03:26] <Zodiac> ha
[03:26] <Madpilot> vladuz976: search Synaptic for libjpeg
[03:26] <Zodiac> yea it is
[03:26] <Zodiac> watch this....
[03:26] <zer0`> how do you upgrade to the newest ubuntu?
[03:26] <Zodiac> I hate ubuntu!
[03:26] <kamstrumental> Hello all.... just wondering if there was a Gnome program that manages your passwords?
[03:26] <Madpilot> Zodiac: that was not a high quality troll. Please try again.
[03:26] <aka_druid> Amaranth, I was just confirming I would have enough logs to ask for a k-line... just banned from #suse too
[03:27] <Zodiac> your right
[03:27] <glick> excuse me is clientform not part of the repositories?
[03:27] <Zodiac> I suck :(
[03:27] <hondje> Here's a good one...some guy kept emailing me yesterday asking if I went to some meeting...nevermind that I don't know him, work with him, or live in the same state
[03:27] <Zodiac> Did you go?
[03:27] <knowledge> can someone help me figure out why my wifi stopped working?
[03:27] <hondje> So, after a few times of explaining that, I asked where he worked, and he actually told me...so I forwarded the emails to his boss
[03:27] <knowledge> I don't know enough command line commands to figure it out
[03:28] <HrdwrBoB> haha hondje
[03:28] <hondje> :-)
[03:28] <zer0`> how do you upgrade to the newest ubuntu? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:28] <erisco> are there any, more intense, games i can apt-get?
[03:28] <Zodiac> 3D Chess!!
[03:28] <Zodiac> Ahhhh yea
[03:28] <erisco> lol okay
[03:28] <cafuego_> zer0`: Do Hoary? _do_ _not_ upgrad eto breezy!
[03:28] <Madpilot> Scorched3d?
[03:28] <hondje> bzflag is good, but 2.0 isn't in universe :-(
[03:28] <cafuego_> schorched3d is *so* a rip-off of Worms.
[03:29] <zer0`> cafuego_ how do you upgrade to hoary?
[03:29] <cafuego_> "Boggy B is an ex-worm"
[03:29] <erisco> lol, okay what is the package name for 3d chess?
[03:29] <teimu> is anyone using the backports respositories with hoary?
[03:29] <Madpilot> cafuego: nah, it's an updated of Scorched Earth, which was a very cool game
[03:29] <benplaut> teimu: plenty...
[03:29] <cafuego_> zer0`: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and changes all mentions of "warty" to "hoary". Then run 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:30] <zer0`> thanks :)
[03:30] <Madpilot> erisco: 3dchess - it's in Universe
[03:30] <teimu> can someone paste me the line from thier sources.list. i cant seem to get it to work
[03:30] <erisco> thanks madpilot
[03:30] <Amaranth> hondje: is that why i never see anyone online now?
[03:30] <Amaranth> hondje: they've all moved to 2.0?
[03:30] <bosewicht> anyone know how to fix the ipod being mounted read only from a bad unmount
[03:30] <hondje> Amaranth: yeah, 2 came out right before hoary did :-(
[03:30] <avanspronsen> !backports
[03:30] <ubotu> from memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:31] <Amaranth> cafuego: worms is a ripoff of scorched earth if you want to play that game
[03:31] <hondje> Amaranth: 2 is a great improvement too, I have the .deb if you want it
[03:31] <Amaranth> !info bzflag breezy
[03:31] <Amaranth> hondje: please
[03:31] <ubotu> bzflag: (a 3D first person tank battle game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 2.0.2.20050318ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 7892 kB, Installed size: 11472 kB
[03:31] <erisco> i hope scorch3d is fun
[03:31] <knowledge> Anyone wanna help?
[03:31] <hondje> oh, 2 is in breezy
[03:31] <Zodiac> whoa
[03:31] <Amaranth> oh, so it is
[03:31] <erisco> i mean scorched3d lol
[03:31] <hondje> still want it, Amaranth ?
[03:31] <Amaranth> nope, that's ok
[03:31] <hondje> :-)
[03:31] <Zodiac> there is worms 2 for linux??
[03:31] <Zodiac> how?
[03:31] <erisco> and here comes in 3d chess
[03:32] <glick> anyone know about clientform?
[03:33] <Zodiac> 3D chess rules
[03:33] <erisco> this bzflag.... it is only for breezy?
[03:34] <Zodiac> wait
[03:34] <Madpilot> erisco: no, there's a version in Hoary
[03:34] <Zodiac> how do I get worms 2??
[03:34] <XIII> hi
[03:34] <XIII> how can i setup beep on ubuntu?
[03:34] <erisco> okay i know i am dumb, but how do i start up these little games i downloaded?
[03:35] <Madpilot> erisco: just type the name of the app in a command line, usually
[03:36] <XIII> hello, anyone for help?
[03:36] <Madpilot> I'd heard that *everything* in the Breezy repos is going to have a .desktop file - anyone able to confirm this?
[03:36] <XIII> how can i setup beep on ubuntu?
[03:36] <cafuego_> Zodiac: Find a cat in your neighborhood, lick its behind a few times ;-)
[03:36] <benplaut> Madpilot: ask your brother?
[03:36] <Zodiac> It took you a while to come up with that ;)
[03:36] <cafuego_> Zodiac: No, i was distracted by an in-law ;-)
[03:37] <Zodiac> I dont buy it
[03:37] <cafuego_> I not selling :-P
[03:37] <erisco> what is '3dchess' apt name, 'scorched3d' apt name, and 'bzflag' apt name?
[03:37] <Madpilot> benplaut: that might work... ;)
[03:38] <cafuego_> erisco: "apt-cache search <string>" is your friend.
[03:38] <Madpilot> scorched3d works to start that app
[03:39] <DrCert> ok... lol whats the cool clone of xmms called?
[03:39] <cafuego_> beep-media-player
[03:39] <DrCert> ty
[03:39] <rob^> !bmp
[03:39] <ubotu> bmp is probably a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[03:40] <erisco> these apt commands are not working!!
[03:40] <Juhaz> it's not a clone, it's fork </nitpick>
[03:40] <erisco> scorched3d does not work, 3dchess does not work, and bzflag does not work
[03:40] <erisco> app* not apt
[03:41] <knowledge> blah...wifi blows
[03:42] <benplaut> we know it does
[03:42] <knowledge> do you guys think it's my computer that keeps screwing things up? because one day a device will work...and I'll wake up and bamm....nothing
[03:42] <bosewicht> anyone familiar with ipods?
[03:42] <erisco> wha, this isn't cool.
[03:43] <erisco> i spent like 50mb of hard drive space to install games i can't get to run
[03:43] <ray_> kafeine, are you the same person?
[03:43] <ray_> erisco, like what games?
[03:44] <musashi> erisco go to synaptic find your game look at all the files it uses and try typing them at a command line
[03:44] <Madpilot> erisco: scorched3d does indeed work. type that in a regular terminal window, and it'll run
[03:45] <MrThou> While trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?
[03:45] <PM-aSeepin> Hai, fsckers!
[03:45] <erisco> AAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!!!! regular terminal window
[03:45] <erisco> not root terminal window
[03:45] <erisco> oopies
[03:45] <Madpilot> is there *ever* a good reason to use a root terminal window?
[03:45] <erisco> okay but bzflags and 3dchess still don't work
[03:45] <erisco> scorched3d does though
[03:46] <Trilobite> Hi guys, if I try the live CD on my box with a wireless adapter, is it likely to be supported (it's a Netgear MA311 which seems to have worked for other Ubuntu users)? And if so, will a proper installation offer the same support?
[03:46] <Madpilot> I think it's just "bzflag" no "s" on the end
[03:46] <musashi> i use root terminal to launch a root nautilus...probably better way though
[03:46] <knowledge> am I still online?
[03:46] <PurpleMotion> I'd say it's pretty likely to be supported
[03:46] <ray_> yes bzflag
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> damnit
[03:47] <Trilobite> ok
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> I need a hierarchial text outliner
[03:47] <Madpilot> "bzflag" just worked here
[03:47] <erisco> madpilot, 90% of the time you have to use one
[03:47] <erisco> at least i find o0
[03:47] <Madpilot> erisco: not if you're using "sudo" instead
[03:47] <erisco> yeah well
[03:47] <Trilobite> i've been playing around with ubuntu on an old laptop and i don't want to go partitioning my main computer yet, i'm really wondering whether wireless support on the live cd is a good guide to wireless support on an installed version
[03:47] <PurpleMotion> what is scorched3d?
[03:48] <PurpleMotion> Tribune:  yup
[03:48] <Trilobite> is the live cd essentially identical to the ubuntu you get by installing?
[03:48] <bash> howto install beagle in hoary ?
[03:48] <ray_> how can i set up a shared printer in xfce?
[03:48] <Madpilot> hmm does anyone know why xscreensaver keeps spamming my terminal window with messages?
[03:48] <erisco> lol my grapchics card cannot run scorced3d
[03:48] <PurpleMotion> Tribune:  what you see ont he live cd is what you get if you install it
[03:48] <Trilobite> great
[03:48] <erisco> mainly because it doesn't have a 3d accelerator
[03:48] <bash> i need some source list no-official o what ?
[03:48] <PurpleMotion> err Trilobite
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> how can i resize the home partition I made?
[03:48] <PurpleMotion> spanglesontoast:  gparted or QTParted
[03:49] <Trilobite> PurpleMotion: thanks for your help, i'll get downloading the live cd then
[03:49] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: scorched3d is a 3d version of scorched earth - artillery duelling, basically. good fun
[03:49] <PurpleMotion> spanglesontoast:  but you have some good luck with that.. it refuses to resize my ext3 partition
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> no it says that they are being used
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> is there no commercial tools that I can use?
[03:49] <PurpleMotion> Does anyone have any experience with growing the BEGINNING of a partition? (eg my free space is BEFORE the partition I want to grow)
[03:49] <kaffeend> anyone in here play America's Army?
[03:49] <PurpleMotion> spanglesontoast:  yup. partition magic
[03:50] <spanglesontoast> you have to install that dummy
[03:50] <ray_> kaffeend, I DO
[03:50] <spanglesontoast> I mean't one that runs off a disc
[03:50] <MrThou> Partitian Magic is awesome
[03:50] <benplaut> agreed
[03:50] <kaffeend> ray_ what a coincidence! :P
[03:50] <f_newton> how do you get free space before the partition?
[03:50] <f_newton> erase a partition or something?
[03:50] <kaffeend> ray_ I managed to install it, and even get it to run! :))
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> so you cannot get a disc program that can resize
[03:51] <ray_> kaffeend, so you do have 3d support!!!!
[03:51] <erisco> i still want 3d chess to work hmm
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> a linux partition
[03:51] <PurpleMotion> is there a partition magic that boots from a cd? I dont have a floppy drive, or a windows partition
[03:51] <erisco> i have tried like every combination
[03:51] <kaffeend> ray_ but when I enter my username and password, hit enter, it times out
[03:51] <PurpleMotion> spanglesontoast:  parted (the base of qtparted and gparted)
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> well done
[03:51] <MrThou> PurpleMotion: I am rather sure that PM 8.0 had a boot from CD option. But I never used it
[03:52] <PurpleMotion> i told you that to begin with ;)
[03:52] <ray_> kaffeend, user name and passwd in the game?
[03:52] <PurpleMotion> MrThou:  but does 8.0 resize ext3?
[03:52] <kaffeend> ray_ yes
[03:52] <erisco> does anyone else know the app command for 3dchess?
[03:52] <kaffeend> ray_ had them send a new one which I tried and it just keeps timing out
[03:52] <spanglesontoast> I have vmware so I'm wondering if I could install it onto a disc?
[03:52] <kaffeend> ray_ maybe it's my firewall?
[03:53] <ray_> kaffeend, i feel bad you have such bad luck
[03:53] <kaffeend> ray_ thanks bud - so do I :(
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to get limewire working, but it says it can't find jamvm
[03:53] <ray_> kaffeend, i have a harware firewall and mine works
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> but i've got it installed.
[03:53] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, what happens when you type java from the term?
[03:53] <kaffeend> ray_ damn... dunno what it could be then...
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> it gives me the help
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> usage
[03:54] <Howdy125> PurpleMotion .. PCLinuxOS will let you resize a partiton .. don't know how well it works though ...
[03:54] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, really
[03:54] <Xenguy> wow - I don't think I can stand that nick
[03:54] <synd_> BROKEN_LADDER: use gtk-gnutella
[03:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> really
[03:54] <kaffeend> ray_ wonder if it has anything to do with java?
[03:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> synd it doesn't seem very good
[03:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> limewire is so much more featureful it seems
[03:54] <PurpleMotion> Howdy125:  it uses parted, which refuses to resize my ext3 partitions
[03:54] <ray_> kaffeend, the americas army game?
[03:54] <kaffeend> ray_ yeah
[03:54] <synd_> BROKEN_LADDER: it runs on same network and downloads just fine
[03:54] <ray_> kaffeend, there is noway
[03:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> it sucks to use though
[03:55] <kaffeend> ray_ never had a problem in windows
[03:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there a way to make it do multiple concurrent searches like in limewire?
[03:55] <synd_> BROKEN_LADDER: what more features do you want in a P2P?
[03:55] <ray_> synd_, belive it or not limewire get a ton more results
[03:55] <synd_> ray_: depends on how it is connected.
[03:55] <synd_> limewire is a resource hog
[03:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh..it does do concurrent searches.
[03:55] <erisco> for those of you using limewire, watch out for ABI Networking
[03:55] <Howdy125> PurpleMotion .. ok .. was just a thought ...
[03:56] <erisco> big time virus
[03:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> abi?
[03:56] <ray_> synd_, all i know is that i have them both installed and limewire works better
[03:56] <PurpleMotion> Partition Magic will work
[03:56] <erisco> abi hijacks your internet conenction
[03:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> limewire says it can't find /usr/lib/jamvm or whatever
[03:56] <PurpleMotion> I just have to get creative with vmware
[03:56] <spanglesontoast> purple?
[03:56] <synd_> ray_: you gotta tinker with gtk-gnutella.
[03:56] <spanglesontoast> you said it will work?
[03:56] <PurpleMotion> what?
[03:56] <MrThou> While trying to install, when it hits my USB Keyboard/Hub, it just stops. Anyway I can bypass that? Other then using another keyboard?
[03:57] <erisco> basically on limewire, make sure you don't download something 1kb-50kb
[03:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> synd tell me how one "tinkers"
[03:57] <PurpleMotion> it'll work for me, i dont know about you
[03:57] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, did you install java with make-jpkg?
[03:57] <spanglesontoast> so I could infact create a disc?
[03:57] <erisco> because 60% of those files are abi
[03:57] <PurpleMotion> i guess so, it looks to be the case
[03:57] <kaffeend> ray_ so do you think it's an issue outside of Ubuntu/Linux?
[03:57] <spanglesontoast> I haven't tried burning a disc in vmware
[03:57] <PurpleMotion> abi?
[03:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm sharing some live u2 clips and the matrix in ogg theora on gtk-gnutella, but i think no one will download them because they won't know that .ogg doesn't just imply music.
[03:57] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah its probly the AA server
[03:57] <erisco> yes abi networking - a war of direct revenue, or something like that
[03:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ never heard of make-jpkg
[03:57] <erisco> way* not war lol
[03:57] <PurpleMotion> spanglesontoast:  burn the PM iso to cd in linux, then install it in windows
[03:57] <kaffeend> ray_ okay, thanks... I'll keep trying
[03:58] <erisco> anyways....
[03:58] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, so how did you install......? just with the .bin file?
[03:58] <spanglesontoast> i don't have windoze installed
[03:58] <kaffeend> ray_ if I still can't play in, say, 10 hours I'm reformatting my HDD and installing windows. :(
[03:58] <spanglesontoast> I have it on vmware
[03:58] <erisco> WHAT IS THE APP COMMAND FOR 3DCHESS?
[03:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> my girlfriend and i broke up today.
[03:58] <spanglesontoast> I want to make room for windoze
[03:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> after 14 mo
[03:58] <erisco> oop, mind the cpas
[03:58] <erisco> caps* forgot they were on
[03:59] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:59] <spanglesontoast> it doesn't work
[03:59] <erisco> it doesn't work?
[04:00] <musashi> women...can't live with em, can't live with em
[04:00] <f_newton> spanglesontoast, then get a bigger trash can
[04:00] <kaffeend> musashi I thought it was "can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em"?
[04:00] <f_newton> I just spent three hours installing a windows os for a friend of mime
[04:00] <rene> hello all
[04:00] <f_newton> egads what a horrid experience
[04:00] <benplaut> hello
[04:00] <kaffeend> hey rene
[04:01] <f_newton> restart this wait for that....
[04:01] <rene> How do I install KDE on Ubuntu
[04:01] <f_newton> add this and that and a whole lot more
[04:01] <Chaotic_Reality> i'm trying to apt-get build-essential and it asks me to put in the cd every time....why is it doing this, and what can I do to get rid of it?  I just now updated my sources.list to the one listed on ubuntuguide.org and did an update. still does it
[04:01] <kaffeend> f_newton sorry I can't agree with you on that.
[04:01] <Madpilot> f_newton: isn't windows fun?
[04:01] <rene> How do I install KDE on Ubuntu????
[04:01] <f_newton> Chaotic_Reality, because there is something on the cd it needs to incorporate it properly
[04:01] <rob^> !kde
[04:01] <ubotu> rob^: Are you smoking crack?
[04:01] <rob^> dam
[04:02] <Chaotic_Reality> rene: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:02] <rob^> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:02] <f_newton> well actually I rather dislike windows
[04:02] <adman> hello, i am getting these errors when installing java root@ubu:~#  make -jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:02] <f_newton> what cant you agree with kaffeend ?
[04:02] <Chaotic_Reality> f_newton, ok, so how many times is it going to do this? heh
[04:02] <rene> Does not work on my ubuntu.
[04:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ i installed java with apt-get
[04:02] <JoshRA> adman: why not install via apt-get?
[04:02] <kaffeend> f_newton so do I but I can install it in 20 mins and i can play games 5 minutes after that
[04:02] <f_newton> install the cd and seel
[04:02] <MrThou> Since no one has any help for my USB keyboard question.  I shall ask this: Does Ubuntu offer a boot manager?
[04:02] <f_newton> uh see
[04:02] <ray_> kaffeend, are you using gnome?
[04:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ i also tried installing from java's site using the bin file, pes
[04:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> yes
[04:03] <kaffeend> ray_ yes
[04:03] <f_newton> kaffeend, ok whatever you say
[04:03] <rob^> !extrarepositories
[04:03] <ubotu> rob^: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:03] <rob^> !factoids
[04:03] <ubotu> somebody said factoids was at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:03] <kaffeend> f_newton I'm just having a LOT of trouble with Linux so far
[04:03] <rob^> !list
[04:03] <ubotu> list is, like, at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:03] <Madpilot> ubotu tell adman about java
[04:03] <rene> Get app Install kubuntu-desktop Does not work on my ubuntu.
[04:03] <f_newton> I bet
[04:03] <avanspronsen> MrThou: What are you looking for?
[04:03] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, with apt-get .......what is the name of the package?
[04:04] <JoshRA> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[04:04] <benplaut> !kde
[04:04] <ubotu> I guess kde is if you prefer KDE over Gnome, you don't have to resinstall using Kubuntu. just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", then select KDE from the Session menu when logging in
[04:04] <levander> Anybody here know how to indent a block of python code automatically in emacs?  py-indent-region is not working for me.
[04:04] <benplaut> much better
[04:04] <erisco> who plays 3d chess here?
[04:04] <MrThou> Avanspronsen: On what level? The boot manager, or the USB problem
[04:04] <JoshRA> adman: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[04:04] <benplaut> erisco: i play regular chess :P
[04:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ jamvm
[04:04] <f_newton> I play free cell does that count?
[04:04] <ray_> erisco, where can i get 3d chess?
[04:04] <avanspronsen> MrThou: boot manager?  something like BUM?
[04:04] <rene> Get app Install kubuntu-desktop Does not work on my ubuntu. WHAT SHOULD I DO?
[04:05] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah that is your problem
[04:05] <JoshRA> rene: chill on the caps
[04:05] <Madpilot> damn, who screwed up ubotu's Java entry? it's insanely long & complex now - it should just point to the wiki page...
[04:05] <JoshRA> rene: did you look at ubuntu.com
[04:05] <JoshRA> it is kubuntu
[04:05] <f_newton> rene apt-get install kde or kde-groupware?
[04:05] <JoshRA> do apt-get install kubuntu
[04:05] <ray_> rene, its apt-get
[04:05] <MrThou> Avanspronsen: Well, I do not wish to rid myself of my windows partition due to I have alot of crap on here I want.
[04:05] <benplaut> !tell rene about kde
[04:05] <rene> Ok, I will try that now
[04:05] <JoshRA> !kubuntu
[04:05] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, the KDE version of Ubuntu. Go to #kubuntu for Kubuntu support. Site: http://kubuntu.org
[04:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ that's my problem?
[04:05] <sun> !ubotu
[04:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ huh?
[04:05] <ubotu> ubotu is probably uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[04:05] <MrThou> Avanspronsen: So, I wish to multiboot
[04:06] <avanspronsen> MrThou: no problem, do you have ubuntu already installed?
[04:06] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, yes that is your problem
[04:06] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, yes that is your proble
[04:06] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, you need the official java packages
[04:06] <MrThou> avanspronsen: Nope.  I cant install it at the moment. It freezes once it hits my USB keyboard.  Well, once it detects there is a USB Hub in it
[04:07] <glick> hmm how do you bookmark a page in firefox?
[04:07] <JoshRA> ctrl-b
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> .. bookmarks
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> .. add
[04:07] <JoshRA> or bookmarks add
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> it's highly complicated
[04:07] <benplaut> ctrl+d
[04:07] <JoshRA> oty os ctrl-D
[04:07] <Madpilot> cafuego_: you around? was wondering why ubotu's Java entry isn't just pointing to the wiki anymore...
[04:07] <avanspronsen> OK, MrThou Do you have an available aprtition in addition to your windows partition?
[04:07] <glick> HrdwrBoB, in my booksmarks tab there is no add option
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> glick: oh sorry it's called "bookmark this page"
[04:08] <HrdwrBoB> how non obvious
[04:08] <musashi> just say no to java
[04:08] <MrThou> avanspronsen: Nope, I'm assuming Ubuntu has a partitioner.  All the other distros I've attempted did.
[04:08] <ray_> no java is a MUST
[04:08] <glick> HrdwrBoB, yeah its gone :(
[04:08] <Madpilot> java is a nessesary evil - but it's not hard to install with the right instructions...
[04:09] <glick> i dont have a "bookmark this page" option under bookmarks
[04:09] <ray_> easy to install
[04:09] <avanspronsen> Once you install Ubuntu it will install GRUB.  GRUB will detect windows and put an entry for both Ubuntu and your Windows partition
[04:09] <Madpilot> ubotu tell ray_ about java
[04:09] <musashi> java...must...necessary...how?
[04:09] <Tribune> what is kubuntu guide website?
[04:09] <rob^> !java
[04:09] <ray_> Madpilot, why did you do that?
[04:09] <MrThou> avanspronsen: Excellent.  Now to get around the keyboard problem ;)  I shall go use my old keyboard for the moment.
[04:10] <rene> Hello'
[04:10] <benplaut> !java
[04:10] <benplaut> already asked...
[04:10] <Madpilot> ray_: sorry, just wanted to showyou how mesed up ubotu's java entry has become... it's not that complex..
[04:10] <rob^> grr
[04:10] <rene> How do I Install KDE on my Ubuntu System
[04:10] <rob^> musashi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:10] <ray_> Madpilot, oh sorry i should have read
[04:10] <avanspronsen> MrThou: good luck!
[04:10] <rene> I am new to linux
[04:11] <musashi> sudo apt-get install kunbuntu-desktop
[04:11] <jasmuz> rene: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:11] <ray_> ubotu tell rene about kde
[04:11] <Trilobite> rene: how about telling the helpful people what error message you get when you try the apt-get line they suggested
[04:11] <jrattner1> will the debian package from http://kde-bluetooth.sourceforge.net/ work on ubuntu?
[04:11] <rob^> jrattner1, maybe but I wouldn't install it
[04:11] <jrattner1> rob^,  would you recomend a build from source?
[04:12] <rob^> are you sure its not in the Ubuntu repositories?
[04:12] <jasmuz> jrattner1: better to build from sources than install from another system
[04:12] <jrattner1> rob^, i doubt it
[04:12] <rob^> jrattner1, whats the package name?
[04:12] <rene> The message is Couldnt find package kde-desktop
[04:12] <jrattner1> kdebluetooth
[04:12] <yyc747> how is ubuntu in terms of connecting via ppp?  what is a good dialer to use (I've heard kppp is good, but I'd rather not use KDE stuff)?
[04:12] <rob^> rene, its kubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <kaffeend> ray_ with AA I entered a wrong password and still it times out... Any ideas?
[04:13] <jasmuz> yyc747: ubuntu is nice under PPP, im on dialup as we speak
[04:13] <musashi> its kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <rene> Same message but kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <musashi> if you cant find it you need to edit your sources.list
[04:13] <Xenguy> yyc747: pppconfig is worth a try also
[04:14] <cafuego_> yyc747: Just use 'pon' after running pppconfig
[04:14] <cafuego_> yyc747: if you have untimed calls, just make it dial at bootup
[04:14] <rob^> jrattner1, try the one from Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kdebluetooth&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[04:14] <yyc747> cafuego_: is pppconfig installed by default?
[04:14] <cafuego_> yyc747: I think so, yes.
[04:14] <rob^> horay doesn't have it
[04:14] <Xenguy> yyc747: dpkg -l pppconfig
[04:15] <Scythe> is there a way to boot into a live system from the install dvd??
[04:15] <jrattner1> rob^, should i download it with synaptic
[04:15] <kaffeend> does anyone know of a game that runs fine on Ubuntu for amd64?
[04:15] <rene> rob, same message, but kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <yyc747> Xenguy: well, I'm not at the computer in question right now, or in a place where I need to use dialup... but I will be soon
[04:15] <Scythe> kafeend frozen bubble??
[04:15] <kaffeend> with nVidia card, that is
[04:15] <rob^> jrattner1, you wont be able to
[04:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ i did install the official package i thought.  i installed that .bin
[04:15] <rob^> just download the .deb
[04:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ where do i get these "official" packages?
[04:15] <kaffeend> Scythe no offense but I kinda meant #D games
[04:15] <jrattner1> rob^, so download it manually and then how do i install it?
[04:15] <yyc747> cafuego_: can you add pon to the startup with rc.d-update?
[04:15] <dadio> kaffeend,  americas army game works, its in synaptic
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> rob^ who are you talking to?
[04:16] <Scythe> it was a joke anyways kaff
[04:16] <rob^> jrattner1, dpkg -i package.deb
[04:16] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, i thought you said you got it from apt?
[04:16] <kaffeend> dadio I'm specifically having trouble with America's Army
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> jrattner1 my old room mate is named jay wratten
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ and i also installed the .bin too.
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> neither seemed to work
[04:16] <rob^> BROKEN_LADDER, jrattner1
[04:16] <kaffeend> Scythe - I figured that ;)
[04:17] <Scythe> is there  a livedvd or livecd for ubuntu... need to do some recovery work on a windows system
[04:17] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, ok...there is a way to do this i promise
[04:17] <dadio> kaffeend,  I installed ubuntu with the i386 kernel and I run armyops with no problem
[04:17] <rene> rob^, It does not work. It gives me the message couldnt find package kubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, do you still have the .bin file
[04:17] <kaffeend> dadio I have amd 64
[04:17] <rob^> rene, you need to enable the extra repositories
[04:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> lemme see
[04:17] <dadio> kaffeend,  so do I
[04:17] <rene> rob^, How do I do that
[04:17] <Snippy> heya
[04:17] <rob^> !repo
[04:17] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rob^
[04:17] <Snippy> how can I determine my ethernet adress?
[04:17] <rob^> dam it
[04:17] <jrattner1> rob^, i dont get how to do that....when i click the link it brings me to a list of contenets
[04:17] <Scythe> rene, are you trying to install kde???
[04:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:18] <Snippy> please help me
[04:18] <Snippy> how can I determine my ethernet adress?
[04:18] <Scythe> just apt get kde
[04:18] <rene> YES
[04:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> Snippy ifconfig eth0
[04:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> Snippy go to whatismyip.com
[04:18] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, ok do you have multiverse in your sources.list
[04:18] <rob^> wiki.ubuntu.com/ExtraRepositories
[04:18] <musashi> suppository?
[04:18] <Snippy> nono
[04:18] <kaffeend> dadio you said you have the i386 kernel - I don't have it - I have the amd64 kernel
[04:18] <Snippy> not the ip
[04:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ surely
[04:18] <Scythe> rene the command is sudo apt-get install kde
[04:18] <Scythe> that worked for me
[04:18] <rene> Ok , I will try
[04:18] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, so do an  apt-get install java-package
[04:18] <bimberi> Snippy: ifconfig (look for HWaddr)
[04:18] <MrThou> sigh
[04:18] <Snippy> Ethernet addresses are 48-bit addresses which are hardwired into the electronics of the Ethernet board of the network device. The address is usually written in hexadecimal form (e.g. 006097981E6B). The first three (leftmost) bytes of the address are unique to the manufacturer of the board. The last three (rightmost) bytes are assigned by the manufacturer. All six bytes uniquely identify the network device.
[04:19] <jrattner1> rob^, any thoughts?
[04:19] <rob^> rene, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:19] <dadio> kaffeend,  I have tried both, I have almost everything working with the i386 kernel including the nvidia driver and armyops
[04:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ this is freakin HUGE!
[04:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> like half a meg!
[04:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> i only have a 20mb hd
[04:19] <rob^> jrattner1, download the .deb from that site, open up a terminal, type: dpkg -i package.deb
[04:19] <kaffeend> dadio so I should install the 32 bit Ubuntu?
[04:19] <Snippy> thanks bimberi
[04:19] <MrThou> ata1: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat0x21 --> frozen.  Wow, Im just not ment to use linux
[04:19] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, it shouldnt be
[04:19] <dadio> kaffeend,  it works for me
[04:19] <bimberi> Snippy: yw :)
[04:20] <rob^> kafeine, most likely
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: I will mail you a 500mb hard drive if you will be quiet
[04:20] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, 20 megs!
[04:20] <kaffeend> MrThou same here bud - you're not alone
[04:20] <rene> Message Kde Not available
[04:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> ls: /usr/lib/j*: No such file or directory
[04:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[04:20] <jrattner1> rob^, there is no deb package, just a link to add to sources
[04:20] <rob^> jrattner1, http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdebluetooth/kdebluetooth_0.99+1.0beta1-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:20] <MrThou> Kaffeend: Looks like we suck ;P
[04:20] <rob^> its there
[04:20] <rob^> you have to click a few links to get it
[04:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh...no i was wrong.  it's 250gb
[04:20] <yyc747> cafuego_: can pon be added to startup like everything else (rc.d-update)?
[04:21] <kaffeend> so I need to run a 32 bit OS on my 64 bit machine? Why did I move from Windows?
[04:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> beos could run on a 100mb hd
[04:21] <jrattner1> ok
[04:21] <Syco54645> is there an equiveland of fruityloops for linux?
[04:21] <rob^> kaffeend, both will run
[04:21] <jasmuz> kaffeend: because win blows
[04:21] <kaffeend> MrThou but I think we are in the majority - that's why windows users rarely move
[04:21] <benplaut> Syco: peppermints
[04:21] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, check out zeta os... its the new beos
[04:22] <Syco54645> benplaut, thanks
[04:22] <kaffeend> jasmuz maybe for you but at least it plays my games without having to write scripts for them
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> for a great majority of OS operations, 64-bitness doesn't make sense.  it's just extra decoding time
[04:22] <rene> I Have not been able to install KDE desktop on my Ubuntu, Help please
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 i'm well aware of it.
[04:22] <rob^> kaffeend, you would obviously use the AMD 64 version on an AMD 64 machine
[04:22] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, have you tried it yet?
[04:22] <benplaut> Syco: i was kidding
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 but it still isn't multi-user, nor does it have any serious home recording apps. :(
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> rene: get kubuntu then
[04:22] <jasmuz> kaffeend: dont whine over games, if you are a true computer user you wont mind much
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 nah, but i'll buy it once it gets multi-user and some decent home recording multi-tracking stuff like Ardour
[04:22] <kaffeend> rob^ dadio says I don't
[04:22] <Syco54645> benplaut, yes i know.  i knew of one and that wasnt the name
[04:23] <rene> There is no other Way?
[04:23] <MrThou> Jasmuz: WTF is a 'true computer user"?
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> jasmuz: don't be so obtuse
[04:23] <dadio> the amd64 runs faster because it has twice as many memory pipes between the cpu and the memory
[04:23] <kaffeend> jasmuz sorry?
[04:23] <cafuego_> yyc747: /etc/init.d/ppp handles that, but is is deprecated. You cna add ppp0 to /etc/network/interfaces instead :-)
[04:23] <rob^> dadio, is wrong, both version will work on an AMD 64 machine
[04:23] <rene> Hrdwrbob, there is no other way?
[04:23] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, i downloaded it a whilst back to try it out to see if i wanted to buy it, never got to trying it yet
[04:23] <jasmuz> nevermind.
[04:23] <arpwatch> I don't suppose anyone could help me with sending mail via postfix?
[04:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> downloaded it?!
[04:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 what are you talking about?
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> rene: you can get the package kde-base I think
[04:23] <kaffeend> jasmuz I truly am using a computer right now
[04:23] <MrThou> But none the less, anyone have any idea what "ata1: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat0x21" would mean, any why it freezes my install?
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> rene: try #kubuntu
[04:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 you mean beos max or whatever?
[04:24] <dadio> I never said the 64bit version wouldnt work I said armyops wont work with the 64bit version
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: it means there is  hardware problem
[04:24] <musashi> i truly am a computer user
[04:24] <kaffeend> jasmuz and I do mind that much right now
[04:24] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah isnt that supposed to be like zeta?
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 well, zeta has a vastly improved set of drivers and such
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 zeta has undergone significant changes.
[04:24] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB.  Do we know what kind of hardware problem? Or, should I try again, and check out the lines above to get an idea?
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 beos will probably only run on 4-year old hardware
[04:25] <arpwatch> Anyone know why email would be queueing up and not sending in postfix on a new install of ubuntu?
[04:25] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, i really liked beos, but that was just me
[04:25] <kaffeend> dadio ok, but someone else was telling me how well it runs on his 64 bit system
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 i used beos for four years
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: hard drive
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: it looks like
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> beos was the best os ever
[04:25] <Syco54645> does anyone know what the animal crossing clone for linux is called
[04:25] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah how is the open beos coming along?
[04:25] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB: I must disagree with that diagnosis... Just based on the fact my HDD is two months old, and working fine :P
[04:25] <jrattner1> rob^, it had dependency problems how do i remove it?
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 uhh..not all that great.  haiku is what it's called
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> you can google it
[04:26] <Kanbeki> Quake 3 Has lagged audio with aRTSd and no audio with polypaudiod, any suggestions? and I've read the howto on the forums
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: ...
[04:26] <rob^> jrattner1, apt-get remove kdebluetooth
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: I'm diagnosing the error message
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> not your hardware
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> it could be a problem with the driver
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> your hard drive could be dying
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> or it could be a controller problem
[04:26] <dadio> kaffeend,  if someone got armyops running on a amd64 bit kernel my hat is off to them
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> or a problem with your CDROM
[04:26] <lamont> arpwatch: I expect that /var/log/mail.log would have an idea...
[04:26] <arpwatch> k
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> dadio: kernel yes, system no
[04:26] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB: Well, it appears Linux still isnt user friendly enough for me.  I shall try again in a year, Thansk
[04:26] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, to my knowlege, they zeta was using parts of haiku
[04:26] <MrThou> Thansk
[04:26] <MrThou> Dammit.. THANKS
[04:27] <nada> hello.  i have ubuntu hoary with an asus p4p800-e with onboard digital audio.  i can get vlc to output to the s/pdif device, but not xine.  anyone know where i can get config information?
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 no..that's not really true.
[04:27] <rob^> jrattner1, the other package may work, if not build it from source. Breezy is due to be released soon, which will have it included
[04:27] <kaffeend> dadio I can run it, but when I go to enter my username and password in-game it times out
[04:27] <jrattner1> rob^, i wish it worked damn
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 they used a bit of code from some app, but not the os itself i don't think.
[04:27] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, i thought that the yellow cab site said that
[04:27] <rene_> HOW do I Install KDE on my ubuntu 5.04 for intel systems
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 i'm referring to what they said on their site
[04:27] <kaffeend> dadio but it starts up just fine
[04:27] <jrattner1> rob^, when is breezy do out?
[04:27] <arpwatch> lamont, it just says the same thing mailq said, "Connection timed out" on all attempts
[04:27] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah that is what i mean.  like the shutdown thing
[04:27] <cafuego_> rene_: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[04:27] <lee> hello all
[04:27] <arpwatch> I can send mail perfectly fine locally though
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what i have to install to have java complete and on my system?
[04:27] <rene_> Did not work
[04:27] <dadio> kaffeend,  you are running version 2.3 correct?
[04:27] <rob^> rene_, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:27] <lamont> arpwatch: that sounds like firewall issues
[04:28] <kaffeend> dadio yes
[04:28] <rob^> rene_, then do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <lee> does anybody know what gamin/gam_server is, why it keeps jumping to 100% cpu usage, if it's essential to GNOME or not, and if not, how the bloody hell do you turn it off?
[04:28] <cafuego_> yyc747: Have a look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1033
[04:28] <arpwatch> I see, I didn't think I would need to have port 25 open to send mail out though?
[04:28] <dadio> kaffeend,  have you tried disabling your firewall?
[04:28] <nada> BROKEN_LADDER: installed java:
[04:28] <nada> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:28] <nada> add these to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[04:28] <nada> ## Backports
[04:28] <nada> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <nada> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, there is the sun java on the sun site, that is always what i used in other distros
[04:28] <nada> run:
[04:28] <nada> sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5
[04:28] <cafuego_> nada: Do not paste here.
[04:28] <MrThou> well. Im off again. I may be back later.
[04:28] <kaffeend> dadio no but I thought that might be it - but I don't know how to disable it
[04:28] <rob^> nada, dont advise people to use the unofficial backports
[04:29] <rob^> !backports
[04:29] <ubotu> methinks backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:29] <kaffeend> dadio I'm a week old n00b
[04:29] <cafuego_> !ppp_on_boot is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1033
[04:29] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[04:29] <dadio> kaffeend,  look under the gnome menu for firestarter thats shoud be the firewall
[04:29] <jrattner1> rob^,  when does the new version set for release?
[04:29] <arpwatch> lamont, I'm not sure what ubuntu uses for the default firewall?  I've searched around the system/applications at the top with no luck
[04:29] <rob^> jrattner1, about a months time
[04:30] <dadio> kaffeend,  its under system tools
[04:30] <lamont> arpwatch: I meant upstream firewall
[04:30] <lamont> there isn't a firewall on the stock ubuntu, there's just nothing listening on reachable ports
[04:30] <jrattner1> hmm thats when i go to school
[04:30] <rob^> jrattner1, sorry, I ment 2 months time
[04:30] <kaffeend> dadio I can't find it there...
[04:31] <jrattner1> rob^, you ever use bluetooth from
[04:31] <jrattner1>  ubuntu
[04:31] <dadio> kaffeend,  darn thats where it is on my gnome menu
[04:31] <arpwatch> lamont, I haven't used linux in 7 years(didn't know much then either), care to toss me a howto or some more info?
[04:31] <flodine> help guys getting a xopendisplay not found in lx11
[04:31] <rob^> jrattner1, no
[04:31] <flodine> anyone
[04:31] <cafuego_> flodine: xlibs-dev
[04:32] <jrattner1> hmm
[04:32] <cafuego_> flodine: what are you trying to compile anyway?
[04:32] <jrattner1> damn
[04:32] <flodine> fluxter
[04:32] <kaffeend> dadio I have Network Tools
[04:33] <dadio> kaffeend,  on mine its between file browser and floppy formatter on the systems tools menu
[04:33] <kaffeend> dadio no gap on mine
[04:34] <kaffeend> dadio synaptic time
[04:34] <adman_> hello, how do you change bin to .deb
[04:34] <dadio> kaffeend,  where did you install armyops?
[04:35] <kaffeend> dadio to the desktop
[04:35] <Kanbeki> Does anyone know how to mount MDF images
[04:35] <linfreak> i am using fluxbox and i saw a pic of a menu like thing on a screenshot of someone elses appilications, it looked kind of like the macOSx toolbar of the most used applications, any idea how to get it?
[04:35] <dadio> kaffeend,  try putting it in /usr/local/bin and installing it from there.  you may be having permissions problems
[04:35] <seth_k> Kanbeki, you can't, but you can use http://developer.berlios.de/projects/mdf2iso/
[04:35] <flodine> cafuego getting -bash:grcat: command not found
[04:35] <seth_k> Kanbeki, that will convert mdf to iso
[04:36] <benplaut> adman_: you can't...
[04:36] <Kanbeki> Thank You.
[04:36] <flodine> anyone
[04:36] <flodine> seen that
[04:36] <flodine> while compl
[04:37] <Syco54645> question all
[04:37] <flodine> cafuego getting -bash:grcat: command not found
[04:37] <Syco54645> how well can a game be displayed via vnc
[04:37] <Syco54645> i have never tried it
[04:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> nada that linked saved the day.  thanks
[04:37] <direwolf> good question
[04:38] <glick> hey when i get junk mail in evolution i mark it as junk and it disappears, doesnt evolution try to learn from what i mark as junk and starts filtering it automatically?
[04:38] <flodine> help guys having problem doing make when installing tar file
[04:38] <Syco54645> because i am beginning to do video stuff again and it would be really nice to have a windows box here for me to do the work on with my linux machine as the front end and the back end an old p3 with vnc server on it
[04:38] <kaffeend> dadio well, I installed Firestarter and stopped firewall, but that didn't make any diff so now I'll try moving it like you said.
[04:38] <Syco54645> flodine, what do you mean?
[04:39] <guardianx> can someone help me locate a build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?
[04:39] <adman_> benplaut: Then where do you download the deb version of java 1.5?
[04:39] <kaffeend> dadio except I don't have /usr/local/bin
[04:39] <flodine> Syco54645 i cant do make
[04:39] <guardianx> can someone help me locate ad linux driver  a  build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?
[04:39] <Syco54645> flodine, a make on what?
[04:39] <flodine> Syco54645 on a tar file
[04:39] <dadio> kaffeend,  I always put my apps there first, that way I always know where they are, and there are no permissions problems
[04:39] <youngcoder> gaurdianx,  did you google it?
[04:39] <Syco54645> flodine, did you untar and ungz/bz it?
[04:40] <guardianx> i dont know the keyword to goggle
[04:40] <flodine> yes
[04:40] <Syco54645> flodine, did you type ./configure?
[04:40] <flodine> yes
[04:40] <Syco54645> flodine, did it complete successfully?
[04:40] <flodine> yes
[04:40] <youngcoder> gaurdianx, type sr1010z linux driver build and see what u find
[04:40] <flodine> getting -bash:grcat: command not found
[04:40] <Syco54645> flodine, what package and did you read the README?  some packages use scons
[04:40] <kaffeend> dadio there is no /local in my /usr dir
[04:40] <dadio> kaffeend,  really?
[04:41] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB: Does the line "Elevator: using anticipatory as a default io scheduler" mean anything?   As it the line above, and hangs on for a few second before giving me the second error.  Also, nothing else looks all the terrible.
[04:41] <kaffeend> dadio really
[04:41] <MrThou> As in, no errors
[04:41] <Syco54645> flodine, then apt-get install grcat
[04:41] <dadio> never heard of that, anyway I have to leave, good luck to you
[04:41] <kaffeend> dadio thanks
[04:41] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: not really
[04:41] <guardianx> can someone help me locate ad linux driver  a  build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?
[04:41] <Syco54645> flodine, nvm not inm the packages.  i would suggest reading the readme
[04:42] <kaffeend> well that was helpful
[04:42] <MrThou> I have a dream, and that dream is someday. I'll get a linux installation that works.
[04:42] <youngcoder> lol
[04:42] <kaffeend> MrThou can we dream together?
[04:42] <flodine> Syco54645 apt cant find it
[04:42] <ray_> kaffeend, you did something to terribly mess up your system because /local is there by default
[04:42] <MrThou> Kaffeend: Are you a hot naked chick?
[04:42] <Syco54645> flodine, i know i just said that
[04:42] <ray_> My linux works flawless
[04:43] <Syco54645> flodine, read the faqs and the readme
[04:43] <kaffeend> MrThou in your dreams :P
[04:43] <youngcoder> kaffeend you need to re-install
[04:43] <rob^> MrThou, try: sudo apt-get hot-babe
[04:43] <MrThou> Kaffeend: Then we can dream togeather ;)
[04:43] <rob^> MrThou, try: sudo apt-get install hot-babe
[04:43] <ray_> yeah kafeend reinstall
[04:43] <Syco54645> MrThou, my dream is that someday i wont crash windows just when i move shit around
[04:43] <kaffeend> ray_ I haven't done anything because I don't know what to do
[04:43] <ray_> kafeine, its in there by default
[04:43] <ray_> kaffeend, you need to reinstall
[04:43] <MrThou> Syco54645: I'd ask if we could trade machines. But mine is still almost top of the line
[04:43] <cafuego_> dude
[04:44] <guardianx> how do i install an .exe in linux??
[04:44] <ray_> MrThou, what do you have?
[04:44] <jtan325> guardianx, you don't....
[04:44] <rob^> guardianx, use wine
[04:44] <kaffeend> MrThou you can play with your incredibly easy and straightforward Ubuntu distro while I oil you up with my perfect breasts!
[04:44] <ray_> guardianx, are you kidding?
[04:44] <MrThou> Ray_: p4 3.0ghz, 1024 ram, radion 9800pro, audigy 2 sound card.
[04:44] <youngcoder> ray_, lol
[04:44] <Syco54645> MrThou, no i crash any windows... i just did today on campus even.  it sucks at work because i will be updating the webserver and bam
[04:44] <Syco54645> dead
[04:45] <kaffeend> ray_ I know, but for some reason I can't boot my windows xp cd
[04:45] <jtan325> nice Syco54645
[04:45] <guardianx> i meant to say how do i extra a .exe file
[04:45] <guardianx> extract
[04:45] <benplaut> you can't...
[04:45] <rob^> exescope
[04:45] <ray_> MrThou, ooooo i got p4 3.5 ghz
[04:45] <rob^> can
[04:45] <ray_> kaffeend, no i mean reinstall ubuntu
[04:45] <deltab> guardianx: a self-extracting zip file?
[04:45] <kaffeend> ray_ um, I don't think so
[04:45] <Seabook> Hello.
[04:45] <MrThou> Syco54645: Cool.  I generally dont crash windows.  Nor get spyware/viri.  But I generally know what I'm doing.  Im just a slow learner.  I learn by doing. and if I cant install, i cant do ;P
[04:46] <ray_> kaffeend, you not being able to boot xp is a hardware problem
[04:46] <deltab> guardianx: try unzip
[04:46] <kaffeend> ray_ it's been 1 hellova week so far
[04:46] <ray_> kaffeend, try mepis
[04:46] <MrThou> Raye_: Nice.  Im poor, and honestly, the 3.0 is all I really need ;)
[04:46] <rob^> those people having trouble install Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:46] <guardianx> how do i unzip in ubuntu?
[04:46] <kaffeend> ray_ no more distro tryouts for me
[04:46] <guardianx> can i install winrar in  ubuntu?
[04:46] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah go back to winblows
[04:46] <rob^> guardianx, yes
[04:46] <MrThou> guardianx: Yup
[04:46] <ray_> guardianx, NO
[04:47] <Seabook> It's possible to browse the ubuntu package repositories from the web browser, right? What's the address again? I forgot.
[04:47] <ray_> why would you want winrar?
[04:47] <rob^> unzip, unzips .zip files in Linux
[04:47] <benplaut> OK, 2 yes's and one no
[04:47] <kaffeend> ray_ if this distro won't work I'm reformatting the HDD and going back to windows I'm afraid
[04:47] <bimberi> Seabook: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:47] <flodine> what does it mean ewhen it says......make: *** [all-recursive]  Broken pipe
[04:47] <rob^> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:47] <^thehatsrule^> guardianx: yes thru wine, use unrar/p7zip if not
[04:47] <Seabook> thanks. :)
[04:47] <ray_> get unrar
[04:47] <ray_> why would you run windows apps in linux?
[04:47] <pavan> Hi guys , any idea abt realpllayer 10 on latest ubuntu..I loaded it but it just don't work.
[04:48] <guardianx> how do i use wine in ubuntu?
[04:48] <MrThou> ray_: Possably becuase winrar is the best zipping program for windows.  Says it has a linux install too.
[04:48] <kaffeend> ray_ I'm not
[04:48] <kaffeend> ray_ sorry I thought that was for me
[04:48] <ray_> MrThou, oh it has a linux install!!!!
[04:48] <ray_> in that case
[04:48] <adman_> MrThou: you hit the nail right on the head, I heard Greeeeaaat things about linux especially ubuntu. Basic things seem to require an MSc degree. Cant download and install simple apps
[04:48] <flodine> what does it mean when it says......make: *** [all-recursive]  Broken pipe?
[04:49] <helfire> why's gaim at 1.1.4 when 1.4.0 is out?
[04:49] <kaffeend> adman_ you said it right there!
[04:49] <rob^> adman_, its just different to Windows, no need for the MSc
[04:49] <ray_> what????? this confuses the hell out of me ....i have found that installing apps is ten times easier in linux
[04:49] <glick> what does evolution do with mail i mark as junk?
[04:49] <kaffeend> ray_ how???
[04:49] <youngcoder> adman_, i find apps easier to install in linux by far
[04:49] <adman_> what?
[04:50] <youngcoder> if you read up on linux it is better
[04:50] <deltab> flodine: I think it means that make was trying to write through a pipe to another process, but that process ended without reading everythign make had to say
[04:50] <rob^> "apt-get install app" is much easier then installing apps in Windows
[04:50] <f_newton> is there a doc that explains the command line configuration tools in ubuntu?
[04:50] <pavan> Hi , anyone can help me in runing realplayer on ubuntu5.04
[04:50] <kaffeend> ray_ in windows I click install and it installs...
[04:50] <ray_> yes installing apps is a breeze
[04:50] <youngcoder> but if you just install it and start messing with stuff you wont get anywhere
[04:50] <adman_> trying to install java, I got in this channel 6 diffent methods within the last 2 hours and none og them worked.
[04:50] <pavan> I installed but it doesnot start
[04:50] <rob^> kaffeend, but you have to find and download it first, in Linux you dont
[04:50] <MrThou> youngcoder/ray_: Im rather confused by that statement.  Windows > double click.  linux > "apt-get install app"  Sorry dudes. Windows wins for ease ;)
[04:50] <ray_> kaffeend, i think you should use windows then
[04:51] <kaffeend> ray_ you want me to leave so soon? :P
[04:51] <youngcoder> MrThou, Windows also wins for spyware and lots of crappy problems
[04:51] <rob^> obviously those people who beleave installing applcations in Linux is harder then Windows have never tried Linux
[04:51] <ray_> MrThou, as far as getting the software and not having to navigate sites to find it...linux is def easier
[04:51] <guardianx> windows doesnt have spyware if u know what ur doing....
[04:51] <ray_> MY ASS
[04:52] <youngcoder> lol
[04:52] <f_newton> guardianx, bull
[04:52] <guardianx> have a router disable java and active x and u will never get spyware
[04:52] <f_newton> guardianx, bull
[04:52] <MrThou> I refuse to have a windows/linux arguement in here ;P
[04:52] <guardianx> it is not bull it is true
[04:52] <youngcoder> gaurdianx, you dont know what you are talking about
[04:52] <ray_> USE WINDOWS IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND SAY HOW GREAT IT IS
[04:52] <guardianx> get firefox + no script + a linksys router = no spyware for window
[04:52] <adman_> I dont have SPYWARE on windows I know what to do to get around that stuff. Get a good combo of apps to do the job.
[04:52] <f_newton> only kiddie scripters do it in macro or java
[04:53] <rob^> ok guys, lets stop feeding the trolls
[04:53] <MrThou> Guardianx: Sorry man, you be incorrect.  A ton of software comes packed with spyware.  You have to read alot of EULAs and ToSs to see that :P
[04:53] <monsterror> Can someone tell me how to get GAIM to Direct Connect? Everytime I try, it says connection failed.
[04:53] <Fizile> hey i dont have spyware and i dont have any combinations of applications to use...
[04:53] <kaffeend> ray_ windows blows for sure - but is this the alternative? My mate is trying to get me onto mac...
[04:53] <bimberi> #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this
[04:53] <guardianx> mrthou- i dont use tons of apps in windows.
[04:53] <ray_> adman_, yes but with linux it is not an issue at all
[04:53] <DrCert> mac is a great desktop
[04:53] <f_newton> monsterror, i dont know what your gaim configuration is but I dont have problems
[04:53] <Seabook> Mac is *nix now anyway...
[04:53] <ray_> long live LINUX
[04:53] <MrThou> Guardianx: I do.  So read alot of EULA ;)
[04:53] <hubsi> how can i search a file over console!?
[04:54] <f_newton> explain please monsterror
[04:54] <kaffeend> anyway, I don't want to have to choose which OS to use - I want both
[04:54] <ray_> i like free operating systems
[04:54] <helfire> hubsi: find / -name searchqueryhere
[04:54] <f_newton> mac is bsd like yes
[04:54] <deltab> hubsi: grep someword filename
[04:54] <guardianx> mrthou suck to be you . so u are better off using linux or real eula
[04:54] <bimberi> hubsi: sudo find / -name <filename>
[04:54] <deltab> hubsi: search within a file, or for a file?
[04:54] <monsterror> I'll right click on a name, and choose Direct Connection, then it asks them, and they accept. THen it says it failed. It'll do the same thing if they ask me too
[04:54] <MrThou> Guardianx: I would use linux, if I could ever get a distro to install properly ;)
[04:55] <f_newton> ah thats either your firewall or theiers
[04:55] <f_newton> or both
[04:55] <hubsi> i'm searching a file.. i don't know where it is on my hdd
[04:55] <adman_> ray_: explain how to install this file in one double click>>>>jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:55] <deltab> hubsi: searching for a file
[04:55] <guardianx> mrthou - agree with u there linux kinda sucks in that department
[04:55] <kaffeend> so how can I install Ubuntu again and get windows on the same drive?
[04:55] <deltab> hubsi: use find
[04:55] <monsterror> Unless Linux comes with one, I dont have a firewall. And I've never had trouble conencting to them before
[04:55] <hubsi> i do
[04:55] <snippy_> how to get ethernet address again ?
[04:55] <f_newton> adman_, thats a bin file... you cant
[04:55] <ray_> adman_, just use windows and leave me alone
[04:55] <deltab> hubsi: do you know the file's name?
[04:56] <bimberi> hubsi: alternatively - find / -name "*<part-of-filename>*"
[04:56] <ray_> MrThou, ubuntu didnt install properly
[04:56] <f_newton> ray_, sounds like good advice to me
[04:56] <hubsi> thanks :D
[04:56] <rob^> kaffeend, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:56] <kaffeend> rob^ thanks
[04:56] <ray_> MrThou, ubuntu didnt install properly?
[04:56] <MrThou> Ray_: It wont install.
[04:56] <snippy_> please help, I need to know my ethernet address
[04:56] <ray_> MrThou, at all.....what does it tell you
[04:56] <bimberi> hubsi: oops - forgot the "sudo" in front (otherwise lots of permission errors)
[04:57] <monsterror> snippy, ifconfig to see your internal IP
[04:57] <adman_> I was just told in this forum by an expert that i can. What is with the disinformation
[04:57] <hubsi> hehe
[04:57] <hubsi> no problem :D
[04:57] <Fizile> snippy_, your ip?
[04:58] <MrThou> ray_: Last line: "ata1: Command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat 0x21"  then it freezes nicely
[04:58] <snippy_> no the ethernet address
[04:58] <snippy_> hexadezimal
[04:58] <deltab> snippy_: run "ip link" or "ifconfig"
[04:58] <ray_> alright what you guys have to understand that is to use linux you have to have at least SOME knowledge of computers in general
[04:58] <hubsi> can i install something with "cedega" ...
[04:58] <ray_> MrThou, did you download then burn it?
[04:58] <bimberi> !cedega
[04:58] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:58] <guardianx> after i install the file unrar into ubunto . how do i use it ??
[04:59] <MrThou> Ray_: I did.
[04:59] <ray_> MrThou, the disk and data is probly corrupt
[04:59] <MrThou> ray_: What kind of knowledge of computers?
[04:59] <Fizile> !crack
[04:59] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[04:59] <ray_> MrThou, i had to download mine twice
[04:59] <MrThou> Im not looking forwards to a 2.8gig download again ;P
[04:59] <youngcoder> gaurdianx, what type of file is it?
[05:00] <ray_> MrThou, 2.8 gig?  for ubuntu?
[05:00] <guardianx> after i install the file unrar into ubunto . how do i use it ??
[05:00] <deacon> Anybody here familiar with modifying thier ACPI DSDT file?
[05:00] <MrThou> ray_: dvd install.
[05:00] <Fizile> ubuntu is less than 700mb yeah?
[05:00] <ray_> MrThou, i would just get the cd version it is all you need
[05:00] <bimberi> Fizile: yes - installs from a single CD
[05:00] <helfire> any guide for getting ati 3d accel workign?
[05:01] <MrThou> ray_: care to mail me a cd?
[05:01] <ray_> helfire, i know
[05:01] <jrattner1> does ubuntu keep SMTP open by default'?
[05:01] <ray_> helfire, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:01] <helfire> ray: thanx
[05:01] <Fizile> i had ubuntu mail me like 15 free cd's and im converting my friends and others...
[05:01] <Fizile> becaus its mad good heh
[05:02] <youngcoder> Fizile, same here
[05:02] <ray_> helfire, then edit xorg.conf and where it says ati write fglrx
[05:02] <deltab> Fizile: how long do they take to arrive?
[05:02] <MrThou> Fizile: the only use I'd have for those CDs is maybe breakfast.
[05:02] <guardianx> how do i extract an .exe file? i think it is an executable .zip file.
[05:02] <PurpleMotion> I guess I'm gonna try partition magic
[05:02] <Fizile> deltab, like i forget i had ordered them by the time i installed
[05:02] <helfire> ray_: k
[05:02] <PurpleMotion> since parted has failed me
[05:02] <Fizile> MrThou, you may want to look for a better diet
[05:02] <youngcoder> deltab, 4-8 weeks depending on where you live
[05:02] <adman_> MrThou: check this>> I was told to do this>>> It didn't work because some guy told me to remove the spaces in the command>> didn't work either
[05:02] <ray_> guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A ror
[05:03] <ray_> guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A rar
[05:03] <kaffeend> rob^ that wiki link was no good I'm afraid - only deals with systems that already have windows installed
[05:03] <ray_> guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A rar
[05:03] <ray_> oops
[05:03] <rob^> kaffeend, did you read the note at the top?
[05:03] <ray_> guardianx, what exe program are you trying to install
[05:03] <deltab> ray_: some are self-extracting
[05:03] <kaffeend> rob^ to install windows first?
[05:03] <rob^> kafeine, yes
[05:03] <ray_> deltab, exe is a WINDOWS file
[05:03] <Syco54645> ray_, self extracting rars and zips are .exe files and you can pass them to rar and unzip
[05:04] <kaffeend> hmmm
[05:04] <ray_> YES IN WINDOWS
[05:04] <guardianx> i'm trying to install partypoker on ubuntu
[05:04] <Syco54645> ray_, and in linux
[05:04] <rob^> kafeine, just leave at least say 10gig or more for Linux when you install Windows
[05:04] <ray_> Syco54645, name one exe file you can run in linux
[05:04] <kaffeend> rob^ yes but I tried that already - I think I need to format the drive first tho
[05:04] <deacon> Anybody here familiar with modifying thier ACPI DSDT file?  I'm having an issue with a particularly sticky error that keps coming up when I try and compile my .asl file
[05:04] <ray_> Syco54645, without wine
[05:04] <flodine> can someone help me get my libc6 updated
[05:04] <Syco54645> ray_, if it is a self extracting rar, then it is an exe and all you do is say rar e foo.rar
[05:05] <Syco54645> ray_, i just did it not too long ago, feel free to try it
[05:05] <ray_> Syco54645, like what tho
[05:05] <kaffeend> rob^ ok
[05:05] <Syco54645> ray_, i dunno get on windows and make a self extracting rar and it is an exe and you can pass it
[05:05] <rob^> kaffeend, you have two choices, if windows is already installed, follow that guide. if windows is not installed, install if first and when partitioning duing windows installation leave 10gig for Linux (ie leave 10gig free space)
[05:05] <kaffeend> is there a way to format the HDD from inside Ubuntu?
[05:05] <psurani> guys, my beep media player hangs, while playing mp3, why ?
[05:05] <rob^> gqparted
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> hopefully not the hd that you have it installed upon.
[05:06] <crimsun> psurani: are you using the esound output?
[05:06] <ray_> Syco54645, oh i see.....but he isnt just extracting an archive he wants to install a windows app
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> psurani you might try avoiding the problem with xmms
[05:06] <psurani> crimsun, , how to check that ?
[05:06] <kaffeend> rob^ is that for me? gqparted?
[05:06] <crimsun> psurani: preferences> output
[05:06] <helfire> ray_: you rock, 3d accel works :)
[05:06] <eL_DemeNteGT> ubuntu en espaol cual es canal
[05:06] <kaffeend> !gqparted
[05:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kaffeend
[05:06] <rob^> yeah, once you are installed Ubuntu has a graphical partitioning tool
[05:06] <bimberi> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:06] <psurani> it hang, i cannt even cancel it, how to kil it ?
[05:07] <ray_> helfire, no prop
[05:07] <ray_> helfire, no prob*
[05:07] <eL_DemeNteGT> ubuntu-es
[05:07] <flodine> is ubuntu files old
[05:07] <Syco54645> ray_, ah ok well then that is a different story, but you were saying an exe is a windows executable, i was just letting people know that they sometimes arnt (in the case of a zip or rar that self extracts, they can still be extracted because the programs will ignore the exe part)
[05:07] <MrThou> But what do you think the odds are that once I get past this error, Ubuntu will agree with my x300 PCI/E vid card?
[05:07] <Fizile> it will.
[05:07] <Fizile> probably...
[05:07] <guardianx> how do i install wine in unbutu??
[05:07] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: I have a friend whoi uses an X300
[05:07] <eL_DemeNteGT> kien me dice el canal de ubuntu espaol
[05:07] <Syco54645> guardianx, apt-get install wine
[05:07] <helfire> ray_: is flgrx a ubuntu package or in deb repository too?
[05:07] <rob^> guardianx, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:08] <ray_> guardianx, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:08] <psurani> hey i selected esound now, is that okkay ??
[05:08] <alindeman> eL_DemeNteGT: #ubuntu-es
[05:08] <Syco54645> i think the topic of this place needs to be changed how to install stuff is apt-get install package
[05:08] <eL_DemeNteGT> grax
[05:08] <Syco54645> that is the most common question that i see
[05:08] <rob^> psurani, select alsa instead
[05:08] <psurani> ahh ok
[05:08] <youngcoder> Syco54645, i agree
[05:08] <ray_> helfire, well debian doesnt have xorg yet i dont think and fglrx is an xorg driver
[05:08] <kaffeend> rob^ what should I do with "gqparted" please?
[05:08] <helfire> ray_: ahh yes, forgot :)
[05:08] <rob^> Syco54645, yep, Breezy will include the FAQ Guide that answers all these type questions
[05:09] <rob^> kaffeend, don't worry about it
[05:09] <n4cht> hey, anyone using a compaq presario?  i have a few hardware questions.
[05:09] <rob^> kaffeend, you most likely wont need it
[05:09] <psurani> hey it says, pls select correct output plugin, when i selected alsa
[05:09] <rob^> kaffeend, install windows, leave free space (unpartitioned) during install, then install Ubuntu into that free space
[05:09] <n4cht> sometimes it won't even boot
[05:10] <n4cht> and windows bsod's on install.
[05:10] <psurani> actually i had even changed the op device
[05:10] <kaffeend> rob^ I think I may need it as when I try to boot the winxp cd it keeps getting stuck after "windows is checking your hardware..."
[05:10] <f_newton> n4cht, you've got some hardware issues
[05:10] <rob^> kaffeend, follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:10] <n4cht> i _think_ it might have a lot to do with the fact that it was previously on a network that was passing around a bios killing virus of some sort.
[05:10] <Micksa> bluddy hell
[05:10] <guardianx> when i try to install wine i get this error   Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:11] <guardianx> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:11] <guardianx> is only available from another source
[05:11] <guardianx> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[05:11] <rob^> kaffeend, under "Windows XP with NTFS or Any Other NTFS partition"
[05:11] <Micksa> how much luck would i have porting the breezy kernel to hoary?
[05:11] <Micksa> I could try it I guess huh
[05:11] <Micksa> bleagh
[05:11] <crimsun> why "port" it?
[05:11] <crimsun> at worst you'd have to grab l-i and l-r-m (and possibly l-h)
[05:11] <vader1102> kaffend: I was having that in a customer pc, it was the heatsink fan on backwards, causing the CPU to overheat
[05:12] <psurani> crimsun, , it agains says, please check that u have correct plugin
[05:12] <adman_> I would like to know why (or is there any? there isn't a version of linux that will eliminate 80% of these commands you have to us to do simple things
[05:12] <crimsun> psurani: pgrep esd
[05:12] <f_newton> I am glad I just use my computer and dont need to play with it all the time or reconstruct it from scratch out of boredom or something
[05:12] <youngcoder> psurani, have you tried xmms?
[05:12] <psurani> hey it started !!! wow
[05:12] <psurani>  i selected esound !!
[05:12] <Micksa> crimsun: because the hoary kernel is proving less stable/functional
[05:12] <_frank> I just changed my CPU heatsink/fan! I get around 7degC cooler when my CPU is working at 100%. Success!
[05:12] <MrThou> well im off for awhile. you all get to hear me cry later. cya
[05:12] <Micksa> I have a laptop
[05:13] <crimsun> Micksa: it's fine here. That still doesn't mean you have to "port" it. Just download and install.
[05:13] <Micksa> l-i? l-r-m? l-h?
[05:13] <Micksa> ah.
[05:13] <psurani> which playeer is to play movies ??? like .dat files ?
[05:13] <Micksa> pff.
[05:13] <sproingie> Micksa: you could probably just install the breezy kernel.  kernel packages have virtually no dependencies
[05:13] <crimsun> linux-image, linux-restricted
[05:13] <crimsun> -modules, linux-headers
[05:13] <youngcoder> _frank, congrats!
[05:13] <f_newton> _frank, a lot of times that  can be accompished by cleaning the heatsink and applying fresh goop to the processor
[05:13] <Micksa> crimsun: it won't install as-is.
[05:13] <sproingie> Micksa: when it breaks you get to keep both pieces
[05:13] <crimsun> I presume you can attach the correct $(uname -r)
[05:13] <Micksa> needs a later version of, um, something
[05:14] <Micksa> hang on
[05:14] <Micksa> oh! that's right, I want to compile anyway cos I want to add some patches
[05:14] <_frank> f_newton: you're probably right... *sound of bubble bursting*
[05:14] <crimsun> well have fun. Get linux-tree-2.6.12.
[05:15] <vader1102> kaffend: I was having that in a customer pc, it was the heatsink fan on backwards, causing the CPU to overheat
[05:15] <adman_> hello kaffeend
[05:15] <f_newton> dust and dirt are killers of heatsinks and fans
[05:15] <kaffeend> hey adman_
[05:15] <kaffeend> vader1102 28 degrees is cool enough for me
[05:16] <psurani> hey my totem movie player doesnt play VCDs !!! help
[05:16] <vader1102> would be for me too
[05:16] <vader1102> have you checked the RAM?
[05:16] <f_newton> lol 28c?
[05:16] <adman_> kaffeend: I am having so much trouble doing simple stuff. Like installing java.
[05:16] <f_newton> adman_, you just arent literally following the instructions
[05:16] <f_newton> its not a big thing
[05:16] <youngcoder> adman_ what part is giving you trouble?
[05:17] <kaffeend> so when I installed ubuntu I was asked if I wanted to keep windows, but when I try to boot windows it says there's a file missing
[05:17] <adman_> I literally followed the instructions
[05:17] <kaffeend> adman_ yeah so am I
[05:17] <adman_> youngcoder: hold on
[05:17] <youngcoder> ok
[05:17] <levander> Anybody know why running '/etc/init.d/ntpdate restart' puts my monitor in suspend mode?  I thought I lost all my work that I was working on when it did that.
[05:17] <kaffeend> f_newton sorry - 38 deg c
[05:18] <adman_> youngcoder: Go to java.sun.com and download the j2sdk or j2re .bin file for Linux. Not the rpm! Install 'java-package' and 'fakeroot' via Synaptic. Now run 'fakeroot make-jpkg <name of the java file you downloaded>'. This will generate a .deb. Install that file using dpkg. Done!
[05:18] <vader1102> kaffend: still good
[05:18] <levander> I assume it is because it messed with the clock on my gnome panel.  But, is really wierd that changing the time on the clock does that.
[05:18] <f_newton> adman_, one ofthe neat things about computers is gigo.... it gives you exactly what its supposed to when the proper data is inserted... no exceptions
[05:18] <adman_> youngcoder: I followed that exactly and it didn't work
[05:18] <f_newton> yeah that sounds better ... 38c
[05:19] <f_newton> thats still pretty cool
[05:19] <youngcoder> adman_ let me check on it one sec
[05:19] <kaffeend> f_newton 38 is better than 28? weirdo
[05:19] <f_newton> no kaffeend it sounds more honest
[05:19] <f_newton> lol
[05:19] <kaffeend> got 9 fans in this fucker
[05:19] <heatxsink> anyone in here tried to get wlan-ng drivers working on ubuntu?
[05:19] <heatxsink> for pcmcia?
[05:20] <kaffeend> f_newton gotcha now ;)
[05:20] <_frank> kaffeend: 38c for the cpu? what is the environing tempereature?
[05:20] <f_newton> well actually now that I just checked mine its running at 25c so forget I said anything...
[05:20] <kaffeend> f_newton my bad sorry
[05:20] <vader1102> heatxsink: I am using the dwl-g650 in my laptop
[05:20] <sproingie> kaffeend: jeez, is your machine hovering off the desk?
[05:20] <kaffeend> lol
[05:20] <youngcoder> adman_ where did those instructions come from? do you have a link?
[05:20] <heatxsink> vader1102:  really.. is that the pcmcia card?
[05:20] <kaffeend> my machine is making a lot of noise, that's for sure
[05:21] <snippy_> how can I make a folder via terminal ?
[05:21] <vader1102> I believe so.. in the dark right now, wife is asleep
[05:21] <vader1102>  lol
[05:21] <adman_> youngcoder: that was referred to me by someone through ubotu.
[05:21] <kaffeend> _frank I don't know what the case temp is - I just got the cpu temp from the BIOS
[05:21] <misfit_toy> vader1102, you have your pc in the bedroom?
[05:21] <deacon> So, I take it nobody here knows a thing about DSDT config editing then?
[05:21] <snippy_> please
[05:21] <snippy_> how can I make a folder via terminal ?
[05:21] <bimberi> snippy_: mkdir
[05:21] <misfit_toy> deacon, no tme
[05:21] <snippy_> thank you
[05:21] <vader1102> nope, in the living room
[05:21] <D1> deacon, its a bitch.
[05:22] <vader1102> she sleepin on a chair
[05:22] <snippy_> how can I change permission for a directory I made ?
[05:22] <deacon> D1, Tell me about it
[05:22] <youngcoder> adman_ why not use apt-get to install java?
[05:22] <heatxsink> vader1102:  so you got it working?
[05:22] <f_newton> snippy_, man chmod
[05:22] <heatxsink> how?
[05:22] <misfit_toy> vader1102, then give her a good bang and send her to bed
[05:22] <D1> check the recompiled/fixed dsdt page before trying out your own.
[05:22] <vader1102> yes am using it right now
[05:22] <deacon> Been working all day on this frigging thing.  Got it down to just one error.
[05:22] <adman_> youngcoder: i got errors with that too
[05:22] <D1> see if anyone fixed it and posted it.
[05:22] <snippy_> whats the chmod to give permission to all users?
[05:23] <vader1102> that's where i'll be very soon
[05:23] <f_newton> lol misfit_toy you did go git some beer!] 
[05:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> chmod 777
[05:23] <bimberi> snippy_: chmod 777 <dir>
[05:23] <snippy_> thanks ^^
[05:23] <misfit_toy> f_newton, yes I did
[05:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> user group others
[05:23] <D1> what kind of laptop is it?
[05:23] <f_newton> :)
[05:23] <kaffeend> anyway, I didn't come in here to talk pc temperatures... lol
[05:23] <deacon> Acer 3002 LCi
[05:23] <D1> haha
[05:23] <f_newton> I am beerless, sigh
[05:23] <D1> I have that.
[05:23] <heatxsink> vader1102:  ?
[05:23] <youngcoder> adman_ im not sure what to tell you
[05:23] <misfit_toy> f_newton, but I have 3 kids, so I need even more beer
[05:23] <vader1102> I am using it right now
[05:23] <D1> did you check the dsdt page at sourceforge?
[05:23] <deacon> Trying to get the stinking Battery Monitor to work
[05:24] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me how I can totally delete my NTFS partition from Ubuntu please?
[05:24] <deacon> Yep
[05:24] <f_newton> ive got more then that just in grandkids misfit_toy
[05:24] <f_newton> heh
[05:24] <starfishy> kaffeend: fdisk
[05:24] <misfit_toy> f_newton, you win then, you need a keg
[05:24] <deacon> Been all over those.  None have the error I'm getting.  But they did help with the other errors I was getting
[05:24] <starfishy> just remove the partition
[05:24] <f_newton> yeah... I do
[05:24] <kaffeend> starfishy is that in terminal?
[05:24] <starfishy> yes
[05:24] <heatxsink> vader1102: is there some kind of wiki or somethign somewhere that steps me thoruhg what I have to do to get those wlan-ng drivers working in ubuntu?
[05:24] <kaffeend> with sudo?
[05:24] <youngcoder> adman_, is this the command u used and got errors?  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:24] <youngcoder> java -version
[05:24] <f_newton> but Id need help drinkin it so as not to lose the timely deposit
[05:24] <vader1102> one sec
[05:24] <D1> http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?manufacturer=ACER&name=Aspire+3002LCI+or+3000
[05:25] <starfishy> of course fdisk won't be able to grow your filesystem
[05:25] <heatxsink> vader1102:  thanks
[05:25] <vader1102> yw
[05:25] <D1> one of those should work
[05:25] <f_newton> a keg of sam adams would be ok
[05:25] <starfishy> but it will enable you to create another one that you can mount at /home, for instance
[05:25] <adman_> youngcoder: my issue is why all of these DOS-like commands? Is there a distro that will eliminate majority of these?
[05:25] <f_newton> heck even shiner tastes ok in a keg
[05:25] <kaffeend> starfishy Oh damn :P
[05:25] <misfit_toy> f_newton, you are a man of good taste
[05:25] <f_newton> yes I know
[05:25] <f_newton> I is after all... a texan
[05:25] <D1> deacon, what do you think of the quality of the screen is?
[05:25] <f_newton> gw aside
[05:25] <starfishy> there are tools that grow filesystems
[05:25] <D1> mine looks sort of washed out.
[05:26] <misfit_toy> f_newton, I'm in austin, south
[05:26] <f_newton> yes I know... we've talked many times
[05:26] <misfit_toy> lol
[05:26] <deacon> That link is where I got my .asl to work with.
[05:26] <f_newton> Ive seen your backyard pics
[05:26] <adman_> youngcoder: I was told to use that command without the sudo bit.
[05:26] <vader1102> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4057.html
[05:26] <youngcoder> adman_, umm there are a couple of distros that claim to be more "friendly like windows" but i havent tried them
[05:26] <misfit_toy> I know, but I never know who remember's what f_newton
[05:26] <D1> which one are you using
[05:26] <f_newton> yeah well Im not drinking today...
[05:26] <heatxsink> vader1102:  that for me
[05:26] <vader1102> yes,, tired
[05:26] <deacon> D1, Not bad.  although the response time is a tad slow
[05:26] <misfit_toy> f_newton, shame on you
[05:26] <misfit_toy> ;p
[05:26] <kaffeend> starfishy I just want to get windows back onto that NTFS - dunno why it's missing a file now when it didn't earlier
[05:26] <Hoxzer> is there any command based TV recorder software that can setup record timer
[05:26] <youngcoder> adman_, use sudo and see what happens
[05:27] <f_newton> yeah but IM broke
[05:27] <Hoxzer> for linux?
[05:27] <adman_> youngcoder: UBUNTU was reccommended by the biggest Microsoft apologists: ZDNET!
[05:27] <vader1102> later
[05:27] <starfishy> kaffeend: oh
[05:27] <starfishy> you want to reinstall windows?
[05:27] <f_newton> it must be rough having to use windows
[05:27] <D1> I just updated to the latest bios and patched it with some patches I found on the acpi boards
[05:27] <f_newton> lol
[05:27] <starfishy> then why do you want to remove the partition?
[05:28] <deacon> D1, which BIOS are you using?
[05:28] <D1> but some guy added a new dsdt with the new bios that I posted earlier.
[05:28] <youngcoder> adman_, Ubuntu is very easy compared to some others
[05:28] <PurpleMotion> according to this, partition magic should run off the cd and allow me to resize my partitions
[05:28] <D1> 3A24
[05:28] <deacon> Yeah, that's the one I'm using
[05:28] <kaffeend> starfishy I tried to reinstall windows on the NTFS that's there already but it freezes after checking system hardware
[05:28] <deacon> Got it off the link from sourceforge'
[05:28] <misfit_toy> PurpleMotion, Pmagic should do it all as long as it's the most recent version
[05:28] <f_newton> ah theres the rub
[05:28] <f_newton> ...
[05:28] <D1> which 3A24 dsdt are you using?
[05:28] <starfishy> kaffeend: justy zero out the first meg of the partition
[05:28] <deacon> Minimal
[05:29] <deacon> the 512MB one is Blank
[05:29] <PurpleMotion> misfit_toy:  it is... i just have no windows installation, but all iw ant to do is resize my ext3 partition, and parted refuses to do it
[05:29] <adman_> youngcoder: I realized that, UBUNTU installed on my thinkpad in thirty minutes, I was very imperssed!
[05:29] <D1> ah
[05:29] <kaffeend> starfishy what the?
[05:29] <D1> thats not mine.
[05:29] <PurpleMotion> and parted gives me shit for information as to why it wont
[05:29] <D1> but mine has 512MB anyway.
[05:29] <deacon> I'd report it, but I'm not sure who I should tell
[05:29] <Micksa> PurpleMotion: you're not *the* purple motion are you?...
[05:29] <D1> I posted one.
[05:29] <youngcoder> adman_, did that command work?
[05:29] <misfit_toy> PurpleMotion, have you tried qparted?
[05:29] <deacon> Which one?
[05:29] <D1> but the one you're using isn't the one I posted.
[05:29] <starfishy> kaffeend: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdaX bs=512 count=2000
[05:29] <PurpleMotion> Micksa:  you mean the musician purplemotion or the one who ran the dalnet server?
[05:29] <D1> http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=398
[05:30] <Micksa> oh gawd
[05:30] <Micksa> THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
[05:30] <Micksa> the first one
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> misfit_toy:  oh yeah.. but it uses parted, so how far do you think you can go with it, heh
[05:30] <starfishy> hadX would have to be replaced by your ntfs partition
[05:30] <Micksa> I don't care about irc sysops :)
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> nah, im the latter
[05:30] <f_newton> dalnet server? well thats nothing to be proud of
[05:30] <Micksa> ;)
[05:30] <misfit_toy> PurpleMotion, I've seen qparted work when parted didn't
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  it was in 96, 97, and 98
[05:30] <f_newton> I was there then...
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> misfit_toy:  well, not int his case
[05:30] <f_newton> dalnet was kiddie scripter land
[05:31] <Micksa> *snigger*
[05:31] <deacon> D1, that's the one I used!
[05:31] <misfit_toy> l8r ya'll
[05:31] <deacon> I think...
[05:31] <f_newton> night misfit_toy
[05:31] <D1> heh, thats mine.
[05:31] <PurpleMotion> l8r misfit
[05:31] <D1> do you have 512MB?
[05:31] <flodine> anyone got a link to install E17 for ubuntu?
[05:31] <deacon> 256 +512
[05:31] <PurpleMotion> isnt e17 still in development?
[05:31] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, what happened to dalnet anyway?
[05:31] <D1> maybe you should try the other guy's bios
[05:31] <flodine> yes
[05:31] <flodine> and
[05:31] <PurpleMotion> (doesnt look any different from e16 to me)
[05:31] <D1> wonder why mine doesn't compile...
[05:32] <deacon> What, the originals?
[05:32] <D1> I had 1 warning but no errors and everything worked fine.
[05:32] <D1> no
[05:32] <adman_> youngcoder: this is wht i get>>>root@ubu:/home/adman # sudo apt-get install sun-j2rel.5
[05:32] <adman_> Reading package lists... Done
[05:32] <adman_> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:32] <adman_> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[05:32] <adman_> root@ubu:/home/adman #
[05:32] <benplaut> flodline: search the forums for "smoon"'s repo
[05:32] <flodine> then run 16
[05:32] <kaffeend> starfishy I don't know what that was meant to do, but the output is: 2000+0 records in
[05:32] <kaffeend> 2000+0 records out
[05:32] <kaffeend> 1024000 bytes transferred in 0.008009 seconds (127856850 bytes/sec)
[05:32] <D1> wait
[05:32] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  it had this micro-social pecking order... basically it killed itself with it's own political system
[05:32] <D1> so you have 768?
[05:32] <starfishy> nos the xp install should work
[05:32] <starfishy> now
[05:32] <D1> http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=408 - thats the other 512MB
[05:32] <f_newton> ah
[05:32] <starfishy> it will just see an empty ntfs partition
[05:32] <youngcoder> adman_ one sec
[05:32] <deacon> Well, I keep getting the error " syntax error, unexpected PARSEOP_METHOD, expecting $end"
[05:33] <kaffeend> starfishy cool... I will give it a go and let you know what happens
[05:33] <D1> well, try compiling that last link and see how it works.
[05:33] <starfishy> kaffeend: the problem with removing and recreating the partition is that it does _not_ empty it
[05:33] <starfishy> so basically removing and recreating the partition would not have helped
[05:33] <deacon> When I comment out the last Paragraph of the dsdt, it compiles, but then I can't boot to that selection once I add it to the boot menu.  Just gets stuck loading modules.
[05:35] <D1> hmm
[05:35] <D1> are you using the flex-old package to compile the intel compiler?
[05:36] <deacon> Oh, BTW, that link for the 512MD dsdt is the blank one.  Just has the intro lines, and nothing else
[05:36] <D1> oh weird.
[05:36] <deacon> Yep, flex-old.
[05:36] <deacon> followed the directions in the wiki to the T
[05:36] <Keegan> is there a limit to the amount of data that can be stored on the desktop?
[05:36] <youngcoder> adman_, did you ever add extra repositories
[05:36] <youngcoder> ?
[05:37] <adman_> repositories?
[05:37] <Keegan> because when I tried to put about 10GB of music there, it said there was not enough space in that location
[05:37] <f_newton> lol adman_ sometimes a little bit of reading and preparation can make a lot of difference
[05:38] <Keegan> adman_:repostitories are basically sites for getting additional packages
[05:38] <snow2> hi guys, anyone tried to sync the latest evolution with a palm
[05:38] <youngcoder> adman_, http://ubuntuguide.org/..... it will have a section on adding extra repositories then that command should work
[05:39] <deacon> You know, D1, I don't think I tried your file.  Lemme try that one and see how it goes
[05:39] <D1> ok.
[05:39] <deacon> You on here regularly?
[05:39] <D1> but remember, it'll only work if you have 512MB
[05:39] <D1> yeah.
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> !ubuntuguide
[05:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:39] <deacon> over 512 OK?
[05:39] <deltab> Keegan: the desktop is a directory within your home directory
[05:39] <D1> haven't tried that.
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> PLEASE do not suggest the ubuntuguide
[05:39] <adman_> f_newton: that is exactly what I am talking about the interfaces are too complex. It took 3 hours in here to get to this point?
[05:39] <deacon> is there a specific line I need to edit?
[05:40] <D1> Im trying to find the acpi mailing list post I used...
[05:40] <deltab> Keegan: open a terminal and type  df -h ~/Desktop
[05:40] <f_newton> adman_, no they arent... you just have to stop thinking the windows way... its wrong in the first place
[05:40] <youngcoder> ubotu, it worked for me just fine
[05:40] <ubotu> youngcoder: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:41] <adman_> f_newton: you still haven't answered me.
[05:41] <f_newton> and contrary to a lot of people's opinions in here (no offense) learning cli commands is very important
[05:41] <f_newton> what was your question?
[05:41] <D1> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11911331
[05:42] <D1> this is where I got the two patches to fix the dsdt
[05:42] <D1> maybe theres something there you can use.
[05:42] <kaffeend> starfishy no worky mate
[05:42] <deacon> Thanks!  I'll check there and let you know how it worked out
[05:42] <youngcoder> i hate it that people thing that if you have to read instructions that it makes things too hard.. research never hurt anyone
[05:42] <kaffeend> :(
[05:43] <D1> good luck.
[05:43] <Fizile> unless youre doing field work with lions
[05:44] <kaffeend> with windows it's a battle NOT to lose stuff, but I can't kill my hdd for some reason :s
[05:44] <childe> Hi
[05:44] <Fizile> is there an amd64 version of cedega?
[05:44] <childe> I got a problem. It seems all my packages can't be authenticated!
[05:44] <adman_> f_newton:  Why are there so many "DOS 5.0 type commands" thaat you have to use to do simple things. I understand the linux way is somewhat better eg: no .dll install in /windows/system /system32 and all that crap. Why after all this time these little commands still exist?
[05:45] <childe> Synaptic keeps saying that "You are about  to install software that can't be authenticated!". These are not universe packages
[05:45] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me how/if I can totally erase the contents of my HDD please?
[05:45] <brettcar> kaffeend: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[05:46] <nickrud> adman_, the things aren't so simple, it's just that having the cli lets you do them simply :)
[05:46] <brettcar> kaffeend: You must run it from a boot CD or while booting from another hard drive of course.
[05:46] <kaffeend> brettcar thanks
[05:46] <f_newton> ok adman_ first off those dos commands came from cbp and those came from multics and unix... simple command words enable much greater power in doing the work instead of using all your resources to tranlate from gif to path to application
[05:46] <brettcar> kaffeend: If you want the most security, run it a few times or with /dev/random instead of /dev/zero (it will take longer though)
[05:46] <qwe> HI ALL, I need help getting my Wireless card to work.  Im on an AMD64
[05:47] <kaffeend> ok, can anyone tell me how/if I can totally erase the contents of my HDD from WITHIN Ubuntu please?
[05:47] <deltab> f_newton: "cbp"?
[05:47] <nickrud> f_newton, eh, I just jumped too soon
[05:47] <f_newton> wait it was cpm
[05:47] <f_newton> ive slept since those days
[05:47] <brettcar> kaffeend: You can't really. Not completely. Download the Ubuntu live CD and do that.
[05:47] <deltab> kaffeend: same command
[05:47] <deltab> ah
[05:47] <kaffeend> brettcar I don't know what I'm doing
[05:48] <brettcar> kaffeend: I wouldn't recommend trying to erase your entire drive without good reason then =)
[05:48] <deltab> f_newton: ah, I thought I might have missed something
[05:48] <deltab> brettcar: why not?
[05:48] <f_newton> no... Im missing years of memory cells .... killed in the great budweiser wars ... lol
[05:48] <deltab> kaffeend: why are you trying to do that?
[05:49] <kaffeend> brettcar I'm trying to run windows, which is on the HDD's NTFS partition, but it's missing Hal.dll so I need to reinstall it, but having trouble with that
[05:49] <IcemanV9> qwe: did u check wiki? forums? for wifi card on AMD64 box?
[05:49] <qwe> CAN anyone help me with my wireless card.  it works on 32 bit but not 64 bit...what gives??
[05:49] <kaffeend> deltab I'm trying to run windows, which is on the HDD's NTFS partition, but it's missing Hal.dll so I need to reinstall it, but having trouble with that
[05:49] <brettcar> kaffeend: If you have your original Windows media/CDs you should be able to do a clean install from that?
[05:50] <adman_> f_newton: yes i understand that. My biggest problem is how are we going to translate windows users to linux/ubuntu if when you need support you have to drop to a cmd prompt to fix the problems. I like going to terminal, but at this time i will not reccommend ubuntu or any flavor of linux to my clients.
[05:50] <kaffeend> brettcar that's what I thought
[05:50] <f_newton> but to make a long story short adman_ cli is a far superior way of manipulating an operating system but its not easier for the beginner... soon though, the beginner finds that waiting for icons etc to work just complicates and slows down the machine
[05:50] <childe> kaffeend: Maybe you need to erase your  MBR
[05:50] <f_newton> adman_, Ubuntu is the least command line interface distro Ive seen to date
[05:50] <childe> If you  installed GRUB on MBR.
[05:50] <qwe> iceman: what am i looking for in wiki?
[05:50] <nickrud> adman_, that's where you make your money: you set it up, and it works from there on, iirc :)
[05:50] <deltab> adman_: you don't necessary have to, but it can be more familiar and easier for long-time users
[05:51] <kaffeend> childe yep
[05:51] <f_newton> as a matter of fact that is the only drawback I can find with it
[05:51] <f_newton> adman_, there is very litte you need to use command line for that you cant get thru the gui
[05:51] <IcemanV9> qwe: name of wifi card
[05:51] <f_newton> but without the command line interface I find myself getting frustrated
[05:51] <kaffeend> f_newton you're right there
[05:52] <adman_> nickrud: I am not being selfish
[05:52] <kaffeend> f_newton I don't even mind using the command line
[05:52] <f_newton> I have gotten pretty used to the redhat way of doing things
[05:52] <adman_> f_newton I understand that
[05:52] <Tarcastil> hey, anyone know how I can set a wheel-thing with keycodes 174 and 176 to map to a mouses's scroll wheel?
[05:52] <thejavafreak> join #fedora
[05:52] <nickrud> adman_, sorry
[05:52] <Chaotic_Reality> can someone explain to me why in kde, xmms runs off the oss driver, but in gnome it runs off esound?  wouldn't it run off the same device for both? seems odd
[05:52] <regeya> I have seen people advocate ditching GNOME Terminal because it's "confusing"
[05:52] <thejavafreak> sorry typo
[05:52] <snippy_> good night everyone I'm going to bed..
[05:52] <regeya> and nothing as a replacement
[05:52] <f_newton> but adman_ LINUX is a much more stable and powerful operating system then windows and it just comes with the program that you need to familiarize yourself with it
[05:53] <f_newton> its not a little red wagon.... its a dang rocket ship
[05:53] <nickrud> adman_, what I really meant was, you can do the cli stuff, and your users just use what you give. I do that a bit.
[05:53] <Xyc0> Chaotic_Reality: Did you change the plugin back to esound and it not work?
[05:53] <kaffeend> childe so how do I do that please?
[05:53] <DigitalFox> will I get much performance increase from switching to the -686 optimized kernel?
[05:53] <Tarcastil> anyone know?
[05:53] <Chaotic_Reality> Xyc0, it just wouldn't play under the esound earlier, so I tried oss and it worked. *shrug*
[05:53] <childe> kaffeend: Use this command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[05:53] <qwe> iceman:im on a Intel 2200bg and there is no wifi for that
[05:53] <Chaotic_Reality> but under gnome it works under esound
[05:53] <kaffeend> childe ok thanks
[05:54] <f_newton> adman_, use linux for a couple of weeks then switch back to windows... you will understand
[05:54] <childe> kaffeend: Change "hda" to your hard disk device
[05:54] <kaffeend> do I need sudo?
[05:54] <Xyc0> Doesn't esound use the OSS drivers?
[05:54] <DigitalFox> wait woah kaffeend what are you doing?
[05:54] <IcemanV9> qwe: name?? anyway, i found one wiki page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu
[05:54] <childe> kaffeend: Yes
[05:54] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, no, it's about what processes bind to what devices.
[05:54] <f_newton> I am pretty lost in ubuntu
[05:54] <kaffeend> DigitalFox I'm going to erase my hard drive
[05:54] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, so it can change at anytime?
[05:54] <f_newton> but its very stable so I will learn it
[05:54] <IcemanV9> qwe: i'm no expert on amd64 (someday, i will owe one of those)
[05:55] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, yes, arts (kde) is not the same as esd/esound (gnome)
[05:55] <f_newton> and its debian based which strongly appeals to me
[05:55] <adman_> nickrud: f_newton: I am talking about the world in general. What do we need to do to start converting the masses or are we going to wait until linus goes the way of OS/2? Which was superrior to windows in all ways.
[05:55] <nickrud> adman_, not to get all gooey here, but, os2 is not the gnu/linux experience :)
[05:55] <Xyc0> f_newton: meh, stability is a user issue.  Linux teaches you how to keep a stable system.  Windows trys to do it automaticaly and fails
[05:55] <f_newton> adman_, os2 is still used in many grocery stores, resturants, warehouses etc to keep track of sales and ordering
[05:55] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, i see.  are there issues with running two applications that use sound at the same time?
[05:56] <f_newton> windows is mr generic
[05:56] <Chaotic_Reality> ie: xmms and gaim
[05:56] <childe> Now can someone help me? APT can't ahthenticate official packages
[05:56] <IcemanV9> yeah, it IS too bad that IBM has decided to kill OS/2 (they haven't improved them anyway!)
[05:56] <f_newton> it does generality well
[05:56] <f_newton> but nothing very well
[05:56] <kaffeend> DigitalFox were you going to suggest an alternative before I pull the plug on Ubuntu?
[05:56] <troy_> hi
[05:56] <troy_> anyone here use nvidia drivers?
[05:56] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, yes. The fundamental issue is how to let more than one app send sound to a single device at the same time.
[05:56] <kaffeend> troy_ I do
[05:56] <troy_> i need the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run
[05:56] <Xyc0> kaffeend: you should never need to pull the plug on ubuntu
[05:56] <f_newton> IcemanV9, warp sucd
[05:56] <troy_> the http://ngc891.blogdns.net/kernel/patches/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run is down
[05:57] <troy_> do you have this pacage?
[05:57] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, if you have a good sound card (it does alsa's multiopen)  the issue is academic
[05:57] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I agree, but I apparently stuffed it up somehow
[05:57] <qwe> iceman: what is "ndiswrapper"
[05:57] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, understandable.  the sounds w/ gaim suck anyway. wish the windows would flash though
[05:57] <DekaPink> --; My trash bin seems to think it has stuff in it when it doesn't, according to its icon. :3
[05:57] <Xyc0> kaffeend: how so?
[05:57] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, nah, just a laptop so nothing amazing. i don't think any laptop has a great soundcard heh
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> not true
[05:57] <Xyc0> troy_: the nvidia drivers can be installed through apt-get easy enough, why not try that?
[05:57] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I don't have /local in my /usr directory
[05:57] <troy_> no
[05:57] <troy_> they can't
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> toshiba makes some laptops with sb audigy chipsets
[05:58] <troy_> i have a geforce 2 go
[05:58] <Xyc0> kaffeend: why do you need to go there?
[05:58] <troy_> only works with 6111 or lower
[05:58] <f_newton> IcemanV9, but I can write an os2 routine on a floppy that will maintain building logistics, security, and fire systems
[05:58] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, so, esd and alsa are intended to be buffers between apps and sound cards
[05:58] <troy_> so i need 6111 2.6.9+ patch
[05:58] <guardianx> how do u type in red? like sometimes people ans my msg and i see it display red ... how do i do that??
[05:58] <Chaotic_Reality> PurpleMotion, cool.  Mine is a gateway. :O
[05:58] <troy_> i need the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run
[05:58] <nickrud> s/alsa/arts/
[05:58] <kaffeend> xyc0 I have to move a folder there which isn't working in it's current location
[05:58] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, so i guess sound is kde's weak point?
[05:58] <PurpleMotion> not really
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> i like arts
[05:59] <Xyc0> kaffeend: ... why don't you tell me your ultimate goal, we can work from there
[05:59] <troy_> ill check in #nvidia
[05:59] <kaffeend> xyco I want to play America's Army
[05:59] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, I don't run kde, so I won't say; sound is still the kernel's weakness, though.
[05:59] <troy_> i want to play AA to!
[05:59] <troy_> thats why i need this driver
[05:59] <Chaotic_Reality> it sounds just like the mp3s in gnome, but i've already ran into issues where it thinks something else is open using the sound so it won't work. annoying
[05:59] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, ahh
[05:59] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you type sudo sh AmericasArmy.bin?
[05:59] <kaffeend> troy_ gl with that - was at it all day yesterday
[05:59] <adman_> nickrud:  f_newton I am signing off of ubuntu. I attempted redhat at version 6.0, now I will do the same for UBUNTU. See you all in 3 years after I get tired of Windows Vista.
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> my sound works fine, even though its a full duplex card and sure as hell doesnt do full duplex
[06:00] <f_newton> adman_, do what you feel is best
[06:00] <Chaotic_Reality> it'd be cool if my external speakers worked w/ my laptop. i'd be happy
[06:00] <nickrud> adman_, I ran redhat 6.0; switched to debian a while back
[06:00] <kaffeend> xyc0 no I double-clicked the armyops sh file
[06:00] <Xyc0> that is why
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> attitudes like that annoy me
[06:00] <Chaotic_Reality> ?
[06:00] <Xyc0> kaffeend: you need to install it with root permissions, for some odd reason it wont let me as user
[06:01] <kaffeend> Xyc0 It's at /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops
[06:01] <f_newton> but honestlyh adman_ we prefer to have the rubes use windows... it gives us greater power over them
[06:01] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, it's a matter of the cards, really, not the kernel. Bad memories :)
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> i'll give it a shot for a day, but the first time something doesnt work, im gonna go back to windows.. know what i think? i think you should STAY there.
[06:01] <Xyc0> Purple stop
[06:01] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I can run it, but in-game I enter my username and password, click enter and it times out
[06:01] <f_newton> now now PurpleMotion adman_ is doing the best he knows how
[06:01] <IcemanV9> f_newton: same here .. i always created many programs that will install the app automagically on many boxes back then .. now, we have to depends on Tivoli, Wise or WinInstall to install apps automagically (very expensive way to do it)
[06:02] <Chaotic_Reality> heh i don't recall saying i was going to go back to windows.
[06:02] <f_newton> IcemanV9, I dont
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> YMMV, im just in a bad mood, dont mind me people
[06:02] <f_newton> lol I use what I want to use and the new boys on the block are lost
[06:02] <f_newton> lol
[06:02] <Xyc0> kaffeend: So wait, wait, what does that have to do with copying to usr/local?
[06:03] <kaffeend> Someone in here said that's what I should do
[06:03] <IcemanV9> f_newton: we switched from os/2 to winnt back then .. it's the company's decision (for what i don't care anymore ha!)
[06:03] <kaffeend> Xyc0 someone here suggested it
[06:03] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: keep it too your self or make a weblog, this room is for helping
[06:03] <f_newton> IcemanV9, nt is built on the os2 model
[06:03] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  of which i do more than my fair share :) dont mind me, man, bad day
[06:04] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: no worries dude, I just dont like to see new users put down
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> I just hate to see people give up
[06:04] <kaffeend> PurpleMotion some of us (like moi) are just thick/disabled
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> and some are just SO ready to
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> thick and disables are synonamous? heheheh
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> disabled
[06:05] <Xyc0> kaffeend: the time out sounds like a problem with AA's nickserver
[06:05] <Chaotic_Reality> taking dog for a walk. bbiab
[06:05] <Xyc0> kaffeend: can you play single player?
[06:05] <kaffeend> PurpleMotion I am new, like 1 week new, but I wanna stay coz I can see that this offers every flexibility I could ever want
[06:05] <f_newton> adman_, VISTA hasnt come out yet has it?
[06:05] <DigitalFox> hrm
[06:05] <Xyc0> No
[06:05] <Xyc0> vista is still beta
[06:05] <kaffeend> Xyc0 no - can't even train
[06:05] <adman_> hahaha, man I am not the enemy. I love this stuff. I use linux for firewalls, caching, web-hosting. My issue is that the desktop/I needs to be made easier for the masses.
[06:06] <f_newton> I need a copy to learn the hacks err I mean to investigate its ...security, yeah thats it...
[06:06] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you install your video card drivers?
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  not saying this is true of the person in question, but far too often i see people try linux just so they can find reasons to feel justified in using windows...
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> adman_:  yeah man, my bad
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> and kaffeend
[06:06] <adman_> f_newton: I have to beta and it looks great so far.
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> i know, ive seen you in here EVERY day :)
[06:06] <kaffeend> Xyco um... I think so - nVidia shows on bootup
[06:06] <nickrud> adman_, yeah, a few years of trying tells me you are right ;(
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> and you're learning
[06:06] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: I agree with you on that, you dont join a distro channel and talk about how much better another distro is
[06:07] <Xyc0> I consider windows a distro of M$
[06:07] <kaffeend> lol AND I'm disabled too
[06:07] <f_newton> adman_, I dont know anyone yet who has had trouble usin this as a desktop... its just when you try to play admin that it gets broken
[06:07] <Xyc0> kaffeend: open terminal and enter: glxinfo
[06:07] <Xyc0> kaffeend: scroll to the top of all that data
[06:08] <kaffeend> Xyc0 yep
[06:08] <Xyc0> kaffeend: tell me if direct rendering  is yes
[06:08] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  i couldnt care less about distro wars, everybody who's worth a damn knows rpm sucks, apt rules :-P It's the people who try linux and just look for something to go wrong and then they say "see thats why i use windows and windows is better" I just like to smash their fscking heads through a wall
[06:08] <z|bandito> i own a box that i loan to some student friends for use as a desktop
[06:08] <f_newton> I have deployed hundreds of fedora desktops in office environments and the people tend to like it better after a few weeks of grumbling.... and believe me ubuntu is much easier then fedora
[06:08] <adman_> Aha, that is where Vista improves on XP and tha others, by not giving full admin priv. to the user.
[06:08] <kaffeend> Xyc0 it is
[06:08] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: breath brother, breath
[06:08] <nickrud> I hate that a person can walk into the local stationary, sees a $14us package that makes greeting cards, and there's no alternative here
[06:08] <f_newton> adman you can set users in any nt envion
[06:08] <f_newton> environ'
[06:08] <z|bandito> as remote administrator and root, is there a way i can display a message and/or image in a popup window to them?
[06:08] <PurpleMotion> told ya, bro.. BAD day
[06:09] <PurpleMotion> im getting better tho
[06:09] <deacon> D1:  You there?
[06:09] <D1> ya
[06:09] <Xyc0> Linux users need a manifest to remind us why we do what we do
[06:09] <z|bandito> like ssh in, and make a window appear on their gnome session with a message and image?
[06:09] <PurpleMotion> but I'm always truly delighted to see people like kaffeend who are not only willing to learn the new system, but seem even eager to do so
[06:09] <Xyc0> manifesto
[06:09] <kaffeend> lol
[06:10] <kaffeend> thanks PurpleMotion
[06:10] <deacon> You might want to re-upload you dsdt file to sourceforge.  I just tried to use it, it's totally corrupt.
[06:10] <Xyc0> kaffeend: run americasarmy from terminal
[06:10] <Miks>  how can i make the "floppy" drive unit to dissapear from the "Computer", like unmounting it forever...i disconnected it but it still appears in the system
[06:10] <D1> oh sucky.w
[06:10] <kaffeend> and I fucking hate windows with a passion!
[06:10] <Xyc0> kaffeend: do you know how?
[06:10] <D1> what happens when you download it?
[06:10] <deacon> full of ASCII test
[06:10] <guardianx> how do u respond to some1 in the chat room and make them see the font as red?
[06:10] <z|bandito> i guess i could just launch an image viewer remotely, but it's a very old box with limited resources, so i'd like to just have a window appear in the existing gnome session with an 'ok' button or something similar
[06:10] <deacon> text
[06:10] <Xyc0> kaffeend: watch the language
[06:10] <kaffeend> chmod +x /home/etc..?
[06:11] <kaffeend> Xyc0 sorry for the language everyone :s
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> how do you guys think aa will run on my system? i got a 1.7ghz/256k p4, a 128mb radeon9250, 384mb ram, a 120gb uata-100/2mbcache hdd with the latest fglrx drivers (kernel, xorg)
[06:11] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you try to run AA from terminal?
[06:11] <kaffeend> Xyc0 how do I run it from terminal please?
[06:12] <D1> try right clicking and downloading.
[06:12] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: run it at lowest possible textures, but keep your resolution resonable
[06:12] <D1> then decompressing it
[06:12] <Madpilot> guardianx: start your line with their nick, usually
[06:12] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  you really think ill need to set the textures low?
[06:12] <deacon> I used wget actually
[06:12] <deacon> but I can try right click
[06:12] <PurpleMotion> the 9250 is a pretty beefy card
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> PurpleMotion: not really
[06:12] <bimberi> Miks: Try editing /etc/fstab and commenting out the relevant line (ie. with /dev/fd0 or floppy or the like)
[06:12] <kaffeend> I have a 5700
[06:12] <qwe> WHO KNOWS AMD64s REALLY WELL?????????
[06:13] <kaffeend> :)
[06:13] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: yes, AA has crazy textures.  Not nessisarily good, just high process
[06:13] <zer0> does anyone know how to install bzflag? i'm on hoary and apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package bzflag" . do i need some new servers in my sources.list ?
[06:13] <PurpleMotion> i mean its not spectacular, but it's not shite either
[06:13] <D1> I'll reupload anyway.
[06:13] <zer0> does anyone know how to install bzflag? i'm on hoary and apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package bzflag" . do i need some new servers in my sources.list ?
[06:13] <PurpleMotion> right on
[06:13] <Xyc0> someone kick zero
[06:13] <kaffeend> qwe I have one
[06:13] <Miks> thanks bimberi :)
[06:13] <Madpilot> !lart zer0
[06:13] <PurpleMotion> it's a hell of a lot better than the card i *had*... I had a 16MB 2xAGP ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra
[06:13] <Xyc0> nice
[06:13] <bimberi> Miks: yw :) did it work?
[06:14] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: it isnt the card, its the drivers
[06:14] <Madpilot> wow, some of ubotu's larts are pretty evil... ;)
[06:14] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: ati drivers bottle neck the card
[06:14] <Xyc0> ha ha
[06:14] <Miks> yep!
[06:15] <bimberi> Miks: thanks - I'll lock that one into the personal knowledgebase then :)
[06:15] <Xyc0> zer0: don't spam your question, that doesn't encourage anyone to help you
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  well, the fglrx package maintained by ubuntu failed me, so i used the latest fglrx drivers from ati.com, and yeah i can see where the drivers are bottlenecking the card, but actually i'd prefer that to the problems people have with the accelerated nvidia drivers
[06:15] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I'm not sure how to run AA from Terminal - is it sudo chmod +x /home/me/Desktop/Armyops?
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> cause at least the ati drivers are stable
[06:15] <Miks> hehe...yeah...its kinda funny..but it works..thats why i love this system :)
[06:15] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: heh, no just stick with the ones ubuntu has
[06:15] <deacon> oh crud.  Now/ I've gone and forgotten the "move" command
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  absolutely not. they failed me
[06:16] <f_newton> mv deacon mv
[06:16] <Madpilot> deacon: mv?
[06:16] <Xyc0> kaffeend: oh im sorry, i was looking up the terminal command for you
[06:16] <deacon> oh yeah. duh
[06:16] <Xyc0> kaffeend: one sec
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> i was unable to acheive DRI
[06:16] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> no matter what i did
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> now, i have dri :)
[06:16] <deacon> I MUST be tired when I make dumb mistakes liek that
[06:16] <f_newton> lol this laptop has a massive 8meg ati mobility one card in it
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> deacon:  like misspelling like?
[06:16] <Fizile> whoa buddy
[06:16] <f_newton> lol
[06:16] <deacon> yep. lol
[06:17] <psurani> guys,  does download manager in ubuntu suppot resume ?? i mean while downloading is electricity goes off, is it poosible to resume then ??
[06:17] <deacon> neeed sleeeeep
[06:17] <PurpleMotion> go to bed
[06:17] <Xyc0> kaffeend: in terminal: armyops
[06:17] <f_newton> psurani, I really dont know
[06:17] <PurpleMotion> Hai, Dr_Willis
[06:17] <Kyral> away Bedtime
[06:17] <aru> deacon: get a linux book :)
[06:17] <kaffeend> Ubuntu is a bestower of virtues
[06:17] <Kyral> ...damn forgot the /
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:17] <Xyc0> kaffeend: when you run it, do everything you normaly want to do
[06:18] <kaffeend> ok Xyc0 thanks
[06:18] <Madpilot> deacon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[06:18] <nickrud> psurani, yes, downloadmanger will resume where the download left off
[06:18] <Xyc0> kaffeend: if it crashes, paste the error in !pastebin
[06:18] <Xyc0> !pastebin
[06:18] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[06:18] <psurani> i m talking abt d4x
[06:18] <kaffeend> didn't crash coz didn't work Xyc0
[06:18] <isai> how do I add a menu entry to the gnome-menu?
[06:18] <nickrud> psurani, I think that's d4x's purpose, if the server will support resume
[06:18] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what was the error?
[06:18] <deacon> ok, now, I knew the command.  I'm just so dang tired after spending all day editing ACPI DSDT files and TBshooting them I had a brain fart.
[06:19] <PurpleMotion> bbl, my kid wants to watch bad news bears
[06:19] <kaffeend> Xyc0 bash: armyops: command not found
[06:19] <psurani> nickrud, ahh i see ,thanks
[06:19] <Antiparadigm> What is the name of the file where I would put the [hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc ]  command so that it does it automatically?
[06:19] <deacon> But I do need sleep.
[06:19] <deacon> I thnk I'll pick it up tomorrow
[06:20] <deacon> CU all later!
[06:20] <nickrud> Antiparadigm, is that your cdrom/dvd?
[06:20] <Xyc0> kaffeend: how did you install AA?
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> DVD
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> It is set to dma off by default
[06:20] <IcemanV9> Antiparadigm: /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> Cool
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> thanks
[06:20] <nickrud> Antiparadigm, /etc/hdparm is run too early to work.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Antiparadigm,   i normally put it at the end of that ocnfig file - read the comments.. :P
[06:20] <kaffeend> Xyc0 Ah... Um, I can't remember dude - was a lot of messing about
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> Ok.
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> No prob
[06:20] <psurani> nickrud, , for installing packages like xmms, d4x, will i have to change my repostries, of i can directly execute the sudo apt-get install commands ?
[06:21] <kaffeend> working
[06:21] <Xyc0> kaffeend: well, why don't you try installing it following the directions
[06:21] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sorry if that sounded sarcastic, it wasnt ment to be
[06:21] <nickrud> psurani, for d4x and xmms, specifically, you need to enable universe.
[06:21] <glick> Discovery's cargo module returns to the playload [sic]  bay Friday as the crew began to wrap up their work.
[06:21] <glick> lol as seen on CNN.com
[06:22] <psurani> nickrud, , how to enable them ??
[06:22] <nickrud> !tell psurani about repositories
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> it has a jungle gym and everything
[06:22] <psurani> nickrud, , i know source.list thing,
[06:22] <psurani> but do i need to add any line in that ?
[06:22] <kaffeend> Xyc0 - but it runs fine- until I hit Login and it says connecting......
[06:22] <Crane> hiya
[06:23] <kaffeend> Xyc0 then times out
[06:23] <Xyc0> sigh
[06:23] <Xyc0> how are you running it?
[06:23] <glick> i have a question about the word "sic'
[06:23] <darkheart> Hello, I've been trying to get fglrx driver to work but I can't seem to be able to. Right now I am trying to build the fglrx module, but I keep failing with the error 'make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386' make[1] : Makefile: No such file or directory' Can anyone help me out?
[06:23] <nickrud> psurani, then, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 is the sources.list you want to have.
[06:23] <kaffeend> Xyco /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops
[06:23] <glick> if someone incorrectly uses sic in a sentance where there is no mistake, wont that cause infinite sic recursion whenever someone quotes that sentance
[06:23] <glick> for example...
[06:24] <glick> This sentance is [sic]  correct.
[06:24] <glick> so if i quoted that it would be  "This sentance is [sic]  [sic]  correct.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> sounds like somthing some stuffy english major would come up with.
[06:24] <Madpilot> glick: you're mis-spelling sentence, though ;)
[06:24] <glick> and if i qupted that i would need 3 sics
[06:24] <psurani> nickrud, ,do i need to add that into sources.list or i just open that link ?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:24] <kaffeend> lol
[06:24] <Madpilot> besides, the whole idea is just [sic] 
[06:25] <psurani> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[06:25] <psurani> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[06:25] <psurani> do i have to add it to sources list and then do update ??
[06:26] <glick> u [sic]  bastard!
[06:26] <glick> hehe
[06:26] <Xyc0> kaffeend: no, you just got lost in the chat room.  You need to use my name to get my attn
[06:26] <Xyc0> kaffeend: In terminal: sh /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops
[06:26] <kaffeend> Xyc0 oops - thought I did
[06:27] <bimberi> darkheart: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[06:27] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:27] <darkheart> bimberi It is already installed
[06:27] <psurani> guys whats libgimp ? and whats gimp ?
[06:28] <starfishy> hm
[06:28] <glick> gnu image manipulation program
[06:28] <Chaotic_Reality> gimp is a graphic manipulation....the unix version of photoshop i guess
[06:28] <kaffeend> Xyc0 same thing, but I think I know what the problem may be...
[06:28] <starfishy> kaffeend: did it work>?
[06:29] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I haven't registered from this computer with Ubuntu on it - just windows
[06:29] <Xyc0> kaffeend: all that means is you are not entering the correct path to the program
[06:29] <psurani> ahh i see
[06:29] <kaffeend> xyc0 but it's the ONLY path
[06:29] <Xyc0> kaffeend: register where?  You have to register?
[06:29] <kaffeend> Xyco I mean to sign up for an account
[06:30] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what account, where?
[06:30] <Xyc0> kaffeend: you can register in wiki.ubuntu.com if you want
[06:30] <Xyc0> !wiki
[06:30] <childe> Can someone help me about my APT?
[06:30] <darkheart> bimberi Is there a way I can find where the xorg-fglrx-driver package is located (ie. which repository)? I've seen it mentioned while trying to get this working.
[06:30] <childe> APT can't authenticate official packages...
[06:30] <Xyc0> kaffeend: try this, try typing the first letter of each directory, then hit tab to complete it
[06:30] <kaffeend> Xyco I mean sign up for an America's Army account (free) to play the game
[06:31] <bimberi> darkheart: You can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <Xyc0> kaffeend: /home/me/Ar[tab] /ar[tab] 
[06:32] <darkheart> bimberi Ahh..too bad. It's not there. I guess it was only for Warty.
[06:32] <bimberi> darkheart: there is xorg-driver-fglrx :)
[06:32] <nickrud> I guess I should look at the initrd more than once ever few years
[06:32] <xnevermore> Hello. Does anyone know how to get dmix to work between multiple users?
[06:33] <darkheart> bimberi Where did you see that? =)
[06:33] <kaffeend> Xyc0 it auto-completed but still same problem timing out in-game
[06:33] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what is th error when it times out
[06:33] <Xyc0> it should say in terminal
[06:33] <bimberi> darkheart: at packages.ubuntu.com (in multiverse)
[06:33] <kaffeend> xyc0 I'll check again... 1 sec please
[06:34] <ksmurf> how in the heck do you remove OS indentificateion (banner?) and postfix ID (banner?)
[06:35] <ksmurf> identifcation
[06:35] <Xyc0> where?
[06:35] <darkheart> bimberi Wow, that sucks. I found it, but every mirror I click on to download it says it can't find it.
[06:35] <ksmurf> On my OS
[06:35] <kaffeend> Xyc0 it says: Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:36] <darkheart> bimberi Hmm..I noticed the one I found was in restricted though.
[06:36] <kaffeend> xyc0 brb
[06:36] <bimberi> darkheart: ooh yes - my bad - it is too
[06:37] <Xyc0> ksmurf: what do you mean, on your OS
[06:38] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok I'm back
[06:38] <bimberi> darkheart: It's working in synaptic for me (I use the au. repos)
[06:38] <bimberi> darkheart: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[06:38] <kaffeend> Xyco i didn't see any ads when I went into game - normally there're a few pages of ads I think
[06:39] <bimberi> darkheart: by "working" meaning that I can kick off a download
[06:39] <Xyc0> kaffeend: try running the program the same way but with: sudo sh
[06:39] <glick> ubuntu gnome doesnt include a development tools menu by default :(
[06:39] <kaffeend> Xyc0 instead I just have a black screen which loads into the main menu
[06:39] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:40] <darkheart> bimberi Thanks. i got it downloaded...Let's hope it works =\
[06:40] <bimberi> darkheart: yw :) good luck
[06:40] <LivingTarget> I have a question when a game crashes what other options are there (if at all) besides ctrl+alt+f1 / ctrl+alt+bckspace?
[06:40] <Xyc0> kaffeend: if that doesn't work, I think you need to fix your x.org
[06:41] <childe> bimberi: Hi, could you please help me fix  my APT?
[06:42] <bimberi> childe: hi. Possibly but ask the channel, there's lots of smarter people than me here :)
[06:42] <darkheart> bimberi &*$@#%& =\ No luck...I'm not sure what else I have to do.
[06:42] <childe> bimberi: I've asked three times and nobody ansower...
[06:43] <kaffeend> Xyco think I need to fix my xorg now :P
[06:43] <childe> The problem is, my APT can not authenticate any packages
[06:43] <IcemanV9> childe: check this wiki page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[06:44] <childe> IcemanV9: But I think that page is for adding external repositories, right?
[06:44] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:44] <bimberi> childe: what repositories are you using?
[06:44] <childe> IcemanV9: But my APT can not authenticate even official packages
[06:44] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok I'll be back...
[06:45] <Xyc0> kaffeend: wait, what no stay here
[06:45] <Xyc0> kaffeend: i need to tell you what to do
[06:45] <childe> bimberi: main, restricted and updates
[06:45] <kaffeend> Xyc0 good thing I'm slow :)
[06:45] <satori101> can someone help me with sound probs on a tecra 8100?
[06:45] <brandon> Hey, I've got a problem getting PHP to work with Apache
[06:46] <bimberi> childe: is there anything between "http://" and "archive.ubuntu.com" in your lines in sources.list?
[06:46] <Xyc0> you need to look for Section "Device"
[06:46] <satori101> running hoary and all i get are scratchy sounds when playback is attempted.
[06:46] <Xyc0> kaffeend: look for Section "Device"
[06:46] <childe> For example, when I "apt-get install vim-gnome", it says The following packages cannot be authenticated
[06:46] <Madpilot> brandon: PHP 4 or 5?
[06:46] <brandon> I installed it in the terminal (sudo apt-get install php4), and it went through all that. Then, I'm trying to run a PHP script, and it's asking me to download it.
[06:46] <brandon> PHP 4
[06:46] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what do you see under that
[06:46] <bienve> #ubuntuusers
[06:46] <childe> bimberi: No.
[06:46] <bienve> ups
[06:47] <Madpilot> brandon: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:47] <kaffeend> Xyc0 hang on, where's section/device?
[06:47] <brandon> Alright, I'll look there
[06:47] <Xyc0> you need to find those exact words
[06:47] <Xyc0> kaffeend: Control-F
[06:47] <Xyc0> kaffeend: Section "Device"
[06:48] <nickrud> childe, do you have the file /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg?
[06:48] <childe> Here  is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/331744
[06:49] <Xyc0> kaffeend: are you still there?
[06:49] <childe> nickrud: Yes.
[06:49] <kaffeend> that's not doing anything Xyc0
[06:49] <childe> I used "file" to check that keyring and no error
[06:49] <Xyc0> kaffeend: merg, up exit that, don't save it
[06:50] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[06:50] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I don't know what you just said to me
[06:50] <Xyc0> kaffeend: exit that window and don't save
[06:50] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:51] <nickrud> childe, then try sudo aptitude update, then try installing the files again.
[06:51] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[06:51] <brandon> Alright, I just removed the version of Apache I had, and installed Apache2, and now it won't let me go to localhost...
[06:52] <childe> nickrud: Wow it worked!
[06:52] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you do that?
[06:52] <nickrud> low hanging fruit :)
[06:52] <brandon> I'm going to restart and see if it works...hand on...
[06:52] <brandon> *hang
[06:52] <kaffeend> Xyc0 yes
[06:52] <childe> nickrud: But I don't what went wrong...I used synaptic before
[06:52] <childe> Maybe it's a bug of synaptic?
[06:52] <lui> Seveas!
[06:52] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: hold the control key, hit F
[06:53] <nickrud> childe, there were new files available, but you did not have the proper signatures (you hadn't downloaded the latest info)
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: in the window that pops up
[06:53] <kaffeend> Xyc0 after I type that? Before I hit enter?
[06:53] <nickrud> not a bug, a feature :)
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: Section "Device"
[06:53] <childe> nickrud: Yeah, indeed, a feature!
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: yes, in the little window that pops up
[06:53] <childe> nickrud: But it's confusing...IMHO
[06:54] <arpwatch> Could someone tell me what would be preventing me from sending out mail via postfix?
[06:54] <Xyc0> kaffeend: that will show you where in the document that is
[06:54] <nickrud> childe, well, it's a learned thing
[06:54] <Doomhammer> okay, i hit CTRL+ALT+F2... how do I get back into KDE ? ROFL
[06:54] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what is in that little section
[06:54] <Xyc0> kaffeend: pm that to me
[06:54] <childe> :-)
[06:54] <Doomhammer> how do I switch back to screen 0 ?
[06:55] <arpwatch> I'm getting "Connection timed out" when attemping to send mail via postfix
[06:55] <childe> OK. Then, go back to my ipw2100 wireless card...
[06:55] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: Cntrl-Alt F8
[06:55] <Doomhammer> Xyc0: thanks
[06:55] <brandon> Uh...I restarted, and it still won't let me access localhost
[06:55] <troy__> hey does anyone know howto install the sources for 2.6.10-5-386
[06:55] <bimberi> childe: is that not working?
[06:55] <brandon> It says connection was refused
[06:55] <ksmurf> Xyc0 I mean that my banner show's up on things like ipchicken ( linux kernel 2.6.10-5 ubuntu.... etc ) Is there a way to turn that off or change it to say ... unknown?
[06:55] <childe> bimberi: Yes.
[06:55] <kaffeend> Xyc0 Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700] nVidia geForce FX 5700"
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	VideoRam	131072
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
[06:56] <Madpilot> brandon: did you do the rest of the config stuff from the wiki page?
[06:56] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sigh, i told you to pm it to me
[06:56] <troy__> hey does anyone know howto install the sources for 2.6.10-5-386
[06:56] <childe> bimberi: I use the stock drivers in hoary, not the NDIS driver
[06:56] <kaffeend> Xyc0 sorry I missed that in the sea of red
[06:56] <brandon> I looked at all of it...but I guess I could double check. I lost the link when I restarted. Can you give it to me again?
[06:56] <Xyc0> kaffeend: !pastebin
[06:56] <Xyc0> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> [pastebin]  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[06:56] <bimberi> childe: so do i - works ok on a Dell Inspiron 500m
[06:56] <Doomhammer> wow
[06:56] <benplaut> !download
[06:56] <ubotu> [download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:56] <Doomhammer> that sucked :P
[06:57] <childe> Here is a DELL Latitude D600
[06:57] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: what did?
[06:57] <kaffeend> what's pastebin?
[06:57] <Xyc0> !pastebin
[06:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[06:57] <kaffeend> Xyc0 what's pastebin?
[06:57] <Doomhammer> Xyc0: switching displays and not knowing how to switch back :P
[06:57] <Doomhammer> Xyc0: BTW, it was CTRL+ALT+F7 :/
[06:57] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: it was F7 sorry
[06:57] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: yea my bad
[06:58] <Madpilot> brandon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:58] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: not enough lights here
[06:58] <brandon> Alright
[06:58] <Madpilot> brandon: and you almost certainly didn't need to restart the whole box just for Apache2 to start up!
[06:59] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I don't know what you want me to do
[07:00] <arpwatch> Anyone that could help me with postfix?
[07:00] <Xyc0> kaffeend: when you paste large chunks of text, use pastebin and send me the link
[07:00] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> http://woct-blog.blogspot.com/  schweet
[07:00] <kaffeend> Xyco was only 5 lines tho
[07:01] <brandon> I know I didn't have to restart the whole thing, I meant restart the X Server
[07:01] <kaffeend> Xyc0 please remember that I've only been using Linux and IRC for a few days
[07:02] <Doomhammer> kaffeend: pastebin is a website, where you can post some text and then let someone else look at it
[07:02] <kaffeend> Doomhammer thanks
[07:03] <Doomhammer> kaffeend: np -- we were all newbies at some point :)
[07:03] <Xyc0> kaffeend: im not mad, but ubotu will be
[07:03] <Xyc0> !lart kaffeend
[07:03] <Doomhammer> :O
[07:03] <Doomhammer> lol
[07:03] <arpwatch> hehe
[07:03] <kaffeend> ubotu you can have my mojo
[07:03] <ubotu> kaffeend: No idea
[07:04] <Xyc0> ha ha ha ha
[07:04] <Doomhammer> lol
[07:04] <arpwatch> ubotu I need postfix help
[07:04] <ubotu> arpwatch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:04] <arpwatch> yes
[07:04] <Xyc0> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[07:04] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Xyc0
[07:04] <arpwatch> unhelpful bot
[07:04] <Doomhammer> rofl
[07:04] <Doomhammer> you guys need to pro
[07:04] <Amaranth> ubotu: what is smeg?
[07:04] <ubotu> Amaranth: what are you talking about?
[07:04] <Amaranth> damn :P
[07:04] <arpwatch> smegma?
[07:04] <Doomhammer> program it to say "42" when asked "what is the meaning of life" ;)
[07:04] <Xyc0> !smeg
[07:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:05] <Doomhammer> ROFL
[07:05] <arpwatch> oh
[07:05] <IcemanV9> does Totem have captioning feature/option??
[07:05] <Amaranth> Xyc0: (i wrote it)
[07:05] <Xyc0> Amaranth: I know, i didn't know if it knew that tho
[07:05] <arpwatch> I don't suppose any of you guys could help me with postfix? It's irritating the hell out of me and google isn't giving me the answers I need
[07:05] <Amaranth> ah
[07:05] <Amaranth> i thought you were trying to help me :)
[07:05] <Xyc0> Amaranth: gj btw, the new one works so much better
[07:05] <Amaranth> postfix? people use that?
[07:05] <Madpilot> ubotu meaning of life is 42
[07:05] <ubotu> okay, Madpilot
[07:06] <Madpilot> !meaning of life
[07:06] <ubotu> methinks meaning of life is 42
[07:06] <arpwatch> Amaranth, what else should I use? :P
[07:06] <Madpilot> there we go.
[07:06] <kaffeend> how do I send a pm in here?
[07:06] <arpwatch> sendmail?
[07:06] <Amaranth> arpwatch: gmail :)
[07:06] <arpwatch> bah!
[07:06] <Madpilot> kaffeend: /msg <user> <msg>
[07:06] <Xyc0> kaffeend: /msg Xyc0 hi
[07:06] <arpwatch> but I really want to know :(
[07:07] <arpwatch> I have an email account, but when I try to send from here to my account its a no go
[07:07] <arpwatch> but I can send locally
[07:07] <Xyc0> ubotu: what is meaning of life?
[07:07] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Xyc0
[07:07] <Amaranth> it's supposed to be able to parse that
[07:07] <Amaranth> ubotu: what is smeg
[07:07] <ubotu> Amaranth: I think you lost me on that one
[07:07] <benplaut> !download
[07:07] <ubotu> [download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:07] <Amaranth> stupid thing
[07:07] <benplaut> woops
[07:08] <Amaranth> ubotu: Amaranth: is this is a test
[07:08] <Madpilot> Amaranth: is ubotu supposed to be able to parse "what is' as well as just "!"?
[07:08] <ubotu> Amaranth: okay
[07:08] <Amaranth> Madpilot: i though
[07:08] <Amaranth> err, thought
[07:08] <Amaranth> ubotu: Amaranth:
[07:08] <ubotu> amaranth: is probably this is a test
[07:08] <geneo93> need some help with tape drive
[07:08] <Amaranth> bah
[07:08] <Amaranth> ok, no more playing with the bot
[07:09] <toresbe> pixie: Yeah, that's cause I moved my stream, it's at http://toresbe.homelinux.org:8000/stream.ogg.m3u atm
[07:09] <toresbe> oops, EWINDOW
[07:09] <guardianx> can i get tv out to work in ubuntu  live cd??
[07:09] <Doomhammer> ubotu: what is irssi?
[07:09] <ubotu> Doomhammer: what are you talking about?
[07:09] <Doomhammer> LOL
[07:09] <Doomhammer> it doesn't even know what IRSSI is
[07:09] <crimsun> !info irssi
[07:09] <Xyc0> guardianx: wow you are asking alot of Live-Ubuntu
[07:09] <Doomhammer> !info irssi
[07:09] <crimsun> !info irssi-text
[07:09] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 779 kB, Installed size: 2520 kB
[07:10] <Doomhammer> aah
[07:10] <Doomhammer> !info links2
[07:10] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre15-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 1932 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB
[07:10] <Xyc0> Does Kipponix use TV-Out?
[07:10] <troy__> links2 seems buggy to me
[07:10] <troy__> i use links
[07:10] <Doomhammer> troy__: i hardly ever use it, so meh
[07:10] <arpwatch> !info postfix
[07:10] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB
[07:10] <psurani> guys how to install RTFM FFS
[07:10] <psurani> oops sorry
[07:11] <arpwatch> bleh
[07:11] <psurani> guys how to install bangexec-1.3.0.2.tar.bz2
[07:11] <psurani> ???
[07:11] <troy__> well im in a terminal right now
[07:11] <troy__> working on nvidia drivers
[07:11] <troy__> so i apt-get 'd links
[07:11] <troy__> to look at stuff
[07:11] <troy__> :p
[07:12] <psurani> guys how to install bangexec-1.3.0.2.tar.bz2
[07:13] <jtan325> psurani, tar xvjf bangexec....
[07:14] <jtan325> then cd to directory
[07:14] <jtan325> and usually it's
[07:14] <jtan325> ./configure
[07:14] <jtan325> then sudo make
[07:14] <jtan325> then sudo make install
[07:14] <troy__> well im off
[07:14] <troy__> i got it to work
[07:14] <troy__> americas army time!!
[07:14] <Doomhammer> troy__: in linux ?
[07:14] <troy__> (800fps glxgears yay)
[07:14] <troy__> yes
[07:14] <troy__> in linux
[07:14] <Doomhammer> troy__: i've gotta get that setup... i got ut2004 and doom3 running
[07:15] <nightmaster> hello
[07:15] <arpwatch> So, no help with sendmail or postfix?
[07:15] <Doomhammer> hiya nightmaster
[07:15] <troy__> what vidcard?
[07:15] <troy__> i got geforce 2 go
[07:15] <nightmaster> how r u mr hammer
[07:15] <Doomhammer> troy__: ATI Radeon 9800 PRO
[07:15] <troy__> ah
[07:15] <Doomhammer> nightmaster: good, yourself ?
[07:15] <troy__> ati flgr
[07:15] <nightmaster> decent
[07:25] <dbernar1> hi
[07:26] <arpwatch> why oh why does ./configure not run properly....
[07:26] <dbernar1> arpwatch: is that a question?
[07:27] <arpwatch> wow, will you help me?
[07:27] <arpwatch> yeah it was :P
[07:27] <arpwatch> I try to ./configure xmms and it says no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH
[07:27] <dbernar1> ok, well, you gotta do better than that, to get an answer. Everyone here would like to help you. Just we dont know squat;) but, if you put it in a good enough way, more often than not, people will mknow what to do.
[07:27] <arpwatch> which I have never experienced before as every other distro always lets ./configure go fine
[07:27] <Doomhammer> arpwatch: you don't have the C compiler installed... you need to apt-get install gcc
[07:28] <arpwatch> !
[07:28] <ubotu> arpwatch: Are you smoking crack?
[07:28] <nickrud> arpwatch, try doing apt-get install build-essential gaim-dev
[07:28] <arpwatch> I just did an apt get earlier today, what gives
[07:28] <dbernar1> install build-essential why would someone compile xmms?
[07:28] <Myrtti> indeed
[07:28] <Myrtti> my question exactly
[07:28] <arpwatch> dbernar1, I couldn't find a binary
[07:28] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install xmms?
[07:28] <arpwatch> I haven't used linux in 7 years man, give me a break :(
[07:28] <dbernar1> yeah, you get as many breaks as you need.
[07:29] <arpwatch> wow, thanks Myrtti
[07:29] <nickrud> heh, older question :)
[07:29] <dbernar1> ya that worked?
[07:29] <arpwatch> yeah
[07:29] <Myrtti> lol
[07:29] <dbernar1> great.
[07:29] <Myrtti> sorry
[07:29] <dbernar1> check this out, arpwatch go System>Admin>Synaptic
[07:29] <arpwatch> I'm used to slackware and just ./configure make make install, not this apt get stuff
[07:30] <arpwatch> !
[07:30] <ubotu> arpwatch: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:30] <dbernar1> get acquainted to that synaptic program, very cool stuff. use the search function to find stuff.
[07:30] <arpwatch> thanks awesome dbernar1
[07:30] <arpwatch> er thats awesome
[07:30] <arpwatch> :)
[07:30] <dbernar1> ya, thank the ones that made it:)
[07:30] <arpwatch> how do you delete files again? rm -Rf directorynamehere    ?
[07:31] <dbernar1> anyhow, I live in winnipeg, canada, and I just went to this thing called folkloraa.
[07:31] <dbernar1> folklorama, and they were dancing ethnic dances, prety cool.
[07:31] <dbernar1> arpwatch: well, you can delete the files using the file manager.
[07:31] <dbernar1> nautilus is what it is called. DO you have a places menu on the top of your screen?
[07:32] <arpwatch> ah yeah I forget about file managers on here, heh
[07:32] <nickrud> dbernar1, local dances, or everyone doing their own?
[07:32] <arpwatch> Linux is so much nicer than it was a decade ago, heh
[07:33] <dbernar1> also, files that are not yours, you need to erase as root. Ubuntu does not have a root account. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo talks about this. We use sudo to give root privileges to commands.
[07:33] <arpwatch> yeah ubuntu install scared me when it didn't prompt me to enter a root pw
[07:33] <dbernar1> nickrud: each country that organizes/region has their own pavillion, in which they dance their countries' dances, make food, and cakes.
[07:33] <arpwatch> not sure I really like having to sudo all the time
[07:34] <apprentice> Ecuador?
[07:34] <nickrud> ah, food, I'll watch anyone dance if they feed me :)
[07:34] <dbernar1> read that wiki page to learn about the diffs, and how it works, and how to enable a root account should you choose to do so.
[07:34] <iiiears> Hello Ubuntu-ans :)
[07:34] <nickrud> iiiears, hey,
[07:34] <dbernar1> nickrud: well, they get money in return for feeding you..I went to my countrie's, Croatia folklorama tonight.
[07:34] <iiiears> Hi nickrud :)
[07:34] <dbernar1> hey, iiiears
[07:35] <nickrud> bleh
[07:35] <dbernar1> I went to SLovakia+Czech republisc las saunday, and I also went to indochina chinese.
[07:35] <nickrud> well, I'll pay to watch pretty women dance :)
[07:35] <dbernar1> Yeah, its pretty cute, and cool.
[07:35] <impact_hammer> hello
[07:35] <dbernar1> Nice festival.
[07:35] <dbernar1> hi.
[07:35] <Kanbeki> can someone show me an example for symlinks
[07:35] <impact_hammer> i need a bit of help
[07:36] <iiiears> finished an "installrite" file integrity check on my windows machine. - no surprises - altered dlls again.- lol
[07:36] <dbernar1> Kanbeki: for creating one?
[07:36] <Kanbeki> I need to create a symlink between two exes for wine
[07:36] <nickrud> Kanbeki, ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.gnomerc, for exampel (not one I'd do, though)
[07:36] <dbernar1> Kanbeki: man ln should give youthat info. n -s source destination I think.
[07:36] <Kanbeki> ok
[07:36] <Kanbeki> thanks
[07:36] <dbernar1> Kanbeki: man ln should give youthat info. ln -s source destination I think.
[07:36] <dbernar1> welcome.
[07:36] <dbernar1> impact_hammer: typing?
[07:37] <kaffeend> I have a TGZ folder here - can anyone please tell me what to do with it?
[07:37] <dbernar1> .tgz?
[07:37] <iiiears> Vista will be more secure. - promises Bill Gates. - Uhuh lol
[07:37] <kaffeend> dbernar1 yes
[07:37] <dbernar1> its a "zip" archive.
[07:37] <impact_hammer> hey im tryin 2 find out my root password so i can edit my grub config files
[07:37] <dbernar1> impact_hammer: no root by default in ubuntu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo will tell you more abnout that.
[07:37] <iiiears> impacthammer ubuntuguide.org
[07:38] <kaffeend> dbernar1 ok so I just extract it wherever then?
[07:38] <impact_hammer> thanx
[07:38] <nickrud> impact_hammer, sudo gedit /boot/grub.lst, then enter your user password when asked
[07:38] <dbernar1> kaffeend: wherever you want the files, or wherever your computer needs them, yes.
[07:38] <hyphenated> impact_hammer: sudo editorprogram /path/to/file
[07:38] <dbernar1> kaffeend: are you installing something?
[07:38] <kaffeend> dbernar1 ok thanks
[07:38] <iiiears> Had the impression he set a grub password.
[07:38] <dbernar1> welcome.
[07:38] <dbernar1> maybe...
[07:39] <nocloud> does anybody here know how to change my AIM profile in kopete?
[07:39] <duncanm> is there a prepackaged version of gtkpod?
[07:39] <dbernar1> not likely, it is more likely connected to AIM, try doing it online.
[07:39] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[07:39] <duncanm> i can't find one for 0.94
[07:39] <kaffeend> dberna1 yes cedega
[07:39] <dbernar1> !info gtkpod tells you this. Try using /msg ubotu info gtkpod
[07:40] <duncanm> Version: 0.88-1 (hoary), i'm looking for 0.94
[07:40] <dbernar1> kaffeend: good luck:) #cedega also.
[07:40] <nocloud>  HrdwrBoB: were you replying yes to my question about AIM profiles?
[07:40] <HrdwrBoB> nocloud: no
[07:40] <kaffeend> ok thanks dberna1
[07:40] <Trilobite> i was in here earlier asking about the live cd, well now i've got that up and running and managed to connect to the internet with it (w00t!), does anyone know if its inability to get anything better than 640x480 resolution is because the live cd has reduced monitor support, or because ubuntu in general doesn't like my screen?
[07:40] <dbernar1> looked at backports, or breezy repos?
[07:40] <nocloud> :(
[07:41] <gpd> Anyone know how to patch Call of Duty to 1.5 ... seems to not find the cd key (despite it being there for v1.0)
[07:41] <duncanm> dbernar1: i think i have backports in my sources.list, not there either
[07:41] <Myrtti> Trilobite: I put my money on the latter
[07:41] <Kanbeki> Uh..Wine is giving me this error for Warcraft III: ROC 1.18 with a retail cd err:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll
[07:41] <Trilobite> arh
[07:41] <dbernar1> nocloud: not likely, it is more likely connected to AIM, try doing it online.
[07:41] <Kanbeki> I am using  xorg-fglrx drivers if it makes any difference
[07:41] <gpd> I tried to rsync from my windows install but it broke everything
[07:41] <arpwatch> dbernar1, now if I give you all I know about why my postfix won't send messages, can you help me there as well?
[07:42] <dbernar1> wtf postfix?
[07:42] <arpwatch> what else can I send email from my computer with? I don't think sendmail is on here
[07:42] <dbernar1> no, I am asking what it is, sorry, dunno
[07:42] <nickrud> exim, arpwatch
[07:42] <arpwatch> oh
[07:42] <arpwatch> k nick
[07:43] <nickrud> It'll break ubuntu base, but I've used a for a while
[07:43] <nocloud>  dbernar1: what do you mean by "doing it online" ?
[07:43] <arpwatch> break it eh? why does it come with postfix then if it doesn't work "out of the box" ?
[07:44] <dabaR> gtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.93.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 443 kB, bla bla...
[07:44] <kaffeend> is #cedega full of bots?
[07:44] <kaffeend> is there a way to ask a question or something?
[07:44] <dabaR> nocloud: like, looking up your profile through google, or aim.com, and there will be a function to moduify it most likely.
[07:44] <dabaR> kaffeend: no idea, I dont play games:(
[07:45] <dabaR> ok, I am going to bed, I think.
[07:45] <Trilobite> is there any information on the wiki or somewhere about monitor support and known problems with particular models? (mine is a pretty normal dell one)
[07:45] <benplaut> 'night
[07:45] <arpwatch> What are the consequences of breaking the ubuntu-base?
[07:45] <dabaR> Trilobite: /msg ubotu fixres
[07:46] <dabaR> benplaut: yep, thanks.
[07:46] <Trilobite> thanks
[07:47] <nickrud> arpwatch, ubuntu-base is a list of packages that ubuntu uses to provide basic functionality (like mail). If you use something
[07:47] <cayne1> heya
[07:47] <benplaut> hi
[07:47] <cayne1> has anyone had problems with wine in ubuntu
[07:47] <cayne1> worked fine in kubuntu
[07:48] <nickrud> outside that list (and therefore removing the master list) if the master list changes, you miss out on the change.
[07:48] <kaffeend> how do I run a .deb file please?
[07:48] <arpwatch> wow, so it really fubars my apt get abilities then?
[07:48] <nickrud> Not a disaster
[07:48] <Kanbeki> cayne1, I've had nothing but problems with wine
[07:49] <h08817> ok
[07:49] <nickrud> arpwatch, no, apt-get is what lets you get what you want if you thing the master list is not quite right
[07:49] <duncanm> what's the deal? libfaac-dev: Depends: libfaac0 (= 1.24-0.0) but 1.24-0.3 is to be installed
[07:49] <nickrud> s/thing/think
[07:49] <iiiears> 6 flaws recently uncovered in the linux kernel. patches available. windows XP 65k flaws and still counting. - Anyone willing to try Windows Vista? - lol
[07:49] <cayne1> Kanbeki...i got it to run mirc with invision a couple of days ago...now with a fresh install. i can't
[07:49] <arpwatch> ah,
[07:49] <h08817> any reason why my ubuntu system locks completely up sometimes and i have to hit the powerswitch?
[07:49] <duncanm> jdub: hey?
[07:49] <jdub> hi duncanm
[07:50] <Kanbeki> cayne1, I had it running Warcraft III and now suddenly I'm getting an OpenGL error
[07:50] <kaffeend> h08817 mine does it too, but it's my fault apparently
[07:50] <jbloudg20> hey can anyone help me to install fluxbox?
[07:50] <kaffeend> how do I run a .deb file please?
[07:50] <h08817> kaffeend, what did u do?
[07:50] <cayne1> what irc client are most people using
[07:50] <dabaR> kaffeend: a deb file is to be insatlled. if you are sure you want to install this particular file, you do sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:50] <h08817> kaffeend, isn't it the dpkg command
[07:50] <kaffeend> h08817 I dunno but the software is perfect apparently
[07:50] <bimberi> kaffeend: dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:50] <h08817> hmm
[07:51] <kaffeend> dabar thanks
[07:51] <dabaR> cayne1: I think xchat. irssi is what I use, also some use bitchX, and others, like gaim.
[07:51] <duncanm> jdub: are you reading priv. messages?
[07:51] <h08817> well thanks for the support now i know it isn't only me
[07:51] <nocloud> do you guys get a nasty clicking noise from the hard drive when you guys shut down?
[07:51] <Madpilot> nocloud: clicking noises from hard drives are rarely good news...
[07:51] <apprentice> no i dont
[07:51] <benplaut> nocloud: nope... sounds like the moving peices inside are failing
[07:52] <supernix> hi anyone using Mozilla mail ?
[07:52] <apprentice> nop
[07:52] <dabaR> jbloudg20: more than sudo aptitude install fluxbox?
[07:52] <jbloudg20> is that all I have to do?
[07:52] <dabaR> duncanm: dont pm people. check this out, tho... /join #flood and then /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <nocloud> well, this is weird...i don't get that noise when i shut down from windows....
[07:53] <dabaR> jbloudg20: should be.
[07:53] <nocloud> the hard drive only clicks when shutting down in linux
[07:53] <jbloudg20> "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "fluxbox"
[07:53] <jbloudg20> "
[07:53] <kaffeend> well, I've done something wrong again - it's not installing cedega
[07:53] <dabaR> h08817: when does this thing lock up, do you do anything, and so on.
[07:54] <arpwatch> nickrud, shouldn't exim automagically send my queued mail, or is there something I should perform?  I'm having the same problem that I did with postfix
[07:54] <nickrud> arpwatch, they keep different queues, for one.
[07:54] <iiiears> !xwindows
[07:54] <ubotu> I guess xwindows is not it's name! It's either "X" or "X Window System", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Nomenclature
[07:55] <arpwatch> the mail just sits in my queue until it says "Connection timed out"
[07:55] <iiiears> hm - that was helpful.
[07:55] <arpwatch> different queues, I just use "mailq" for everything
[07:55] <dabaR> no cloud, mine makes one clicking sound, not many
[07:55] <arpwatch> should I use something else?
[07:55] <dabaR> nocloud, mine makes one clicking sound, not many
[07:55] <dabaR> jbloudg20: /msg ubotu info fluxbox
[07:56] <nickrud> arpwatch, I use exim for the debconf scripting: it asks for a smarthost, I give it, add a password (I'd have to look that up again) and mail works.
[07:56] <kaffeend> dabaR I couldn't install that .deb file with sudo dpkg -i etc..
[07:56] <nocloud> i get one click too....
[07:56] <nocloud> its rather loud
[07:56] <nocloud> and sounds nasty
[07:56] <glick> excuse me how can i set it up so that the user cant shutdown the computer from gnome or anyplace else without putting the sudo password
[07:56] <glick> ?
[07:56] <nocloud> and windows doesn't do it....
[07:56] <nickrud> postfix always jerked me around in redhat and lfs
[07:56] <HrdwrBoB> glick: system-> logout
[07:56] <HrdwrBoB> selet shutdown
[07:56] <dabaR> what error kaffeend, did you try sudo dpkg, or just dpkg?
[07:56] <nocloud> hard drives are mechanical....grrr...even one click can't be good
[07:57] <iiiears> Smorgasbord of window managers for "The X Windows System"http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
[07:57] <dabaR> universe/ is where it is, jbloudg20, that means you need to add universe to sources.list. /msg ubotu addingrepositories
[07:57] <glick> HrdwrBoB, i want the person to have to enter the password to be able to shutdown the machine
[07:57] <kaffeend> dabar I tried sudo dpkg and got: Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:57] <kaffeend>  /home/me/Cedega-4.2.1-DEB.3282285.TPB/cedega_4.2.1-1_i386.deb
[07:57] <dabaR> jbloudg20: actually [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:58] <arpwatch> nickrud, I'm kind of lost in the whole debain thing, do I need to run a configure on exim before it works?
[07:58] <dabaR> kaffeend:  best place to ask is #cedega, I think, no idea why you would get that.
[07:58] <supernix> hi anyone know how to fix the problem with Mozilla Mail & News ?
[07:58] <jbloudg20> ok ill give that a try
[07:58] <jbloudg20> thanks
[07:58] <kaffeend> dabar nobody answers in there - it's a ghost town
[07:58] <arpwatch> running "exim4" just spits some junk at me
[07:58] <dabaR> nocloud: mine did not in win neither, but does this since warty, and in debian, I think, I never shut down debian:)
[07:58] <iiiears> ubotu forget xwindows
[07:58] <ubotu> i forgot xwindows, iiiears
[07:59] <kaffeend> dabaR I do have a 64 bit system btw
[07:59] <ray_> anyone familiar with xfce?
[07:59] <dabaR> kaffeend: it is called patience:P
[07:59] <benplaut> ray_: somewhat...
[07:59] <kaffeend> whatever
[07:59] <dabaR> kaffeend: just wait there, or something, or ask here again, I really dont know about that package...
[07:59] <ray_> benplaut, do you know how to get things to start when xfce starts?
[08:00] <glick> is there anyway i can make it so the user cant shutdown the machine?
[08:00] <benplaut> ray_: nope :P
[08:00] <nocloud>  dabaR: did the click occur in previous versions of ubuntu?
[08:00] <iiiears> ubotu xwinman is Freedom of choice. Window managers for "The X Windows System"http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
[08:00] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[08:00] <benplaut> that's one of the main reasons i stopped using it
[08:00] <dabaR> supernix: oh, you mean *the* problem with that, oh yeah, sure I know how to fix "the problem" :P
[08:00] <nickrud> arpwatch, hm, I'd suggest what I'm using now, cuz I'm too lazy to look all that stuff up again: evolution, and have it get and drop mail. Sometimes I regret dropping my debian install, because I did this stuff once and it worked forever.
[08:01] <supernix> dabaR: anyone that knows anything about the mozilla issue will know the answer
[08:01] <glick> also how can i edit my gnome menu
[08:01] <dabaR> there is a mozilla issue?
[08:01] <supernix> Yes
[08:01] <supernix> I just installed it
[08:01] <dabaR> glick: smeg. /msg ubotu smeg
[08:02] <supernix> and it can't find the xul file I think messenger.xul was it
[08:02] <arpwatch> nickrud, ok I do use evolution as well for my general email account, but in redhat 5.1  I could use sendmail to send mail directly from the console somehow
[08:02] <dabaR> supernix: and it has a message on the title bar, find out about the mozilla problem with ubuntu?
[08:02] <iiiears> glick - your gnome applications menu? - amaranth's "smeg" simple menu editor for gnome.
[08:02] <supernix> it wont start
[08:02] <glick> iiiears, i have to to install smeg?
[08:03] <dabaR> iiiears: now with magical system menu editing capabilities..:)
[08:03] <monsterror> Can someone help me install IRSSI? I tried apt-get but it says the package isn't available.
[08:03] <iiiears> It's a very handy app.
[08:03] <dabaR> glick: no, you dont have to...
[08:03] <iiiears> Awesome. (yep, californian. - lol)
[08:03] <dabaR> monsterror: did you try irssi in a terminal?
[08:03] <glick> isnt there a simple way to do it through gnome? why do i need a third party app to edit my menus?
[08:03] <monsterror> No I didnt, and that would be my problem.
[08:03] <aru> monsterror: it was already installed here
[08:04] <dabaR> there is in some installations of the gnome menu, like the warty one, or the debian sarge one.
[08:04] <aaronc> lo
[08:04] <dabaR> not the hoary one, tho, glick .
[08:04] <aaronc> how do I change the keyboard layout in the terminal
[08:04] <aaronc> ?
[08:04] <direwolf> yo
[08:04] <dabaR> haha, good stuff that monsterror.
[08:04] <arpwatch> :)
[08:04] <direwolf> layered tech, stop
[08:05] <benplaut> !xfce
[08:05] <ubotu> xfce is probably a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:05] <arpwatch> nickrud, I don't know any other way to explain what I'm trying to do, because I'm not that good at linux to begin with, and I haven't used it in 7yrs
[08:05] <dabaR> direwolf: what?
[08:05] <glick> anyone know how i can disable a users ability to shutdown the system through gnome?
[08:05] <dabaR> arpwatch, just one email message?
[08:06] <arpwatch> yeah I just want to send one message via postfix/sendmail/exim to a friend
[08:06] <arpwatch> or at least my own account
[08:06] <dabaR> you could type out a file, and then mail receivingaddress@isp.org < file, that sends the file to receiving address from not sure which email address.
[08:07] <ray_> xfce is gnome done right....so they say
[08:07] <arpwatch> I could dig up my rh 5.1 distro and do it in 5 minutes, heh
[08:07] <arpwatch> hmm
[08:07] <benplaut> they got a few things very wrong
[08:07] <nickrud> dabaR, except, there's no mail command here
[08:07] <dabaR> mailx?
[08:07] <nickrud> no
[08:07] <dabaR> has to be.
[08:07] <dabaR> its a unix.
[08:07] <nickrud> heh
[08:07] <dabaR> you sure?
[08:08] <dabaR> cause on this debian there is one on default, and I used it on warty b4...
[08:08] <nickrud> mail<tab> gets me  nothing
[08:08] <dabaR> just type in mail and hit enter.
[08:08] <nickrud> breezy
[08:08] <dabaR> youre usuing breezy?
[08:08] <nickrud> no such command :)
[08:08] <dabaR> well, then, maybe that is why it is not there, although, that is weird, for sure.
[08:09] <dabaR> glick, from gdm?
[08:09] <glick> dabaR, from gdm and from inside gnome when you logout you have the option
[08:10] <ray_> how do i make applications start at boot in xfce
[08:10] <dabaR> glick, approzimately, since my gnome panel and menu are different. System>Admin, or prefs, or Appls>System Tools, then look for login screen manager
[08:10] <dabaR> ray_: start at boot, or start at login?
[08:10] <ray_> dabaR, sorry login
[08:11] <dabaR> in there, there should be a security tab. see if secure actions menu is checked off.
[08:11] <nickrud> dabaR, yeah, I'm trying breezy since the topic no longer uses uppercase when telling us not to :)
[08:11] <dabaR> ray_: not sure, IO used to ask at #xfce when I used that.
[08:11] <dabaR> oh, wow, it really does not:)
[08:11] <ray_> dabaR, yeah i think they are all asleep
[08:12] <glick> ok cool
[08:12] <dabaR> ray_: look for a xfce-sessions in the preferences/system tools, or such menu.
[08:12] <glick> thanks
[08:12] <dabaR> glick: hows that work?
[08:12] <glick> dabaR, ima try it
[08:12] <dabaR> werd
[08:12] <dabaR> :)
[08:13] <dabaR> I need to go to sleep so I can wake up at 6:30, and work tech support through chat:)
[08:13] <dabaR> which is the same I do here...so boring a life...
[08:13] <nickrud> heh
[08:13] <dabaR> jj, I haev fun all the time, and even when helping ppl I learn so much...
[08:14] <dabaR> half this stuff I dont know before you ask, and I look it all up...so I know for myself when I need it.
[08:14] <dabaR> ok, night.
[08:15] <ray_> brb'
[08:15] <direwolf> sometimes i despise the internet
[08:15] <dabaR> direwolf: you are confusing.
[08:15] <nickrud> good night, dabaR :)
[08:16] <johanbr> Hi. Does anyone know why a file that's supposedly text can only be displayed by "more", with all other programs just giving me binary garbage?
[08:16] <dabaR>  direwolf> layered tech, stop
[08:16] <dabaR> see ya nickrud .
[08:17] <direwolf> i just dont why people cant keep to themselves, that is all
[08:17] <ray_> benplaut, i figured it out
[08:18] <z|bandito> what is the process popsquares?
[08:19] <ray_> how do i start nautilus without opening the file-browser just the desktop?
[08:20] <nickrud> ray_, you can try nautilus --no-default-window
[08:20] <LinuxDolt> how would you go about creating your own local repository?
[08:20] <direwolf> whats up with that
[08:20] <ray_> nickrud, thank you
[08:21] <nickrud> LinuxDolt, apt-proxy is good, and can lead you into some other methods
[08:21] <ratty> anyone know how to find an old friend??
[08:22] <nickrud> apt-cache search old-friend
[08:22] <mustafu> heh
[08:22] <apprentice> on myspace maybe ratty
[08:23] <ratty> do you know if its poss to find out her phone no.
[08:23] <_olaf> www.whitepages.com
[08:23] <kaffeend> can someone please show me how to format my hard druve?
[08:23] <_olaf> search by name, reverse phone, reverse addy
[08:23] <_olaf> among other things
[08:23] <kaffeend> drive*
[08:23] <ratty> il try that site
[08:23] <direwolf> wow, impressive
[08:23] <gpd> when did this turn into #stalking
[08:24] <ray_> kaffeend, go to bootdisk.com and get a dos floppy ...boot to it and format
[08:24] <kaffeend> ray_ I don't have a floppy drive
[08:24] <nickrud> LinuxDolt, dpkg-scanpackages is also very useful for a few packages you maintain locally.
[08:24] <h08817> my mouse won't work in ubuntu are there drivers i can get?
[08:24] <apprentice> well imon #slalking if u need help
[08:24] <gpd> kaffeend: how basic are we talking?
[08:25] <direwolf> hahaha someone hacked me
[08:25] <h08817> how do u know?
[08:25] <direwolf> im gettingsent to google.dk
[08:25] <kaffeend> gpd sorry?
[08:25] <ray_> kaffeend, ok scratch that
[08:25] <kumaran> hi
[08:25] <gpd> kaffeend: well do you know about fdisk / mkfs / anything?
[08:25] <h08817> my mouse won't work in ubuntu
[08:26] <ray_> kaffeend, have you tried setting you bios up to boot to cdrom
[08:26] <kaffeend> gpd very Basic then :s
[08:26] <kaffeend> ray_ yes
[08:26] <ray_> kaffeend, and xp still wont boot?
[08:26] <kaffeend> ray_ correct
[08:26] <kaffeend> it's still on my HDD ray_
[08:27] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah but you should still bea able to boot
[08:27] <kaffeend> but it's missing a file from the ubuntu install
[08:27] <h08817> any idea where i can get drivers for a logitech mouse?
[08:27] <ratty> is there any other way to find her tried whitepages
[08:27] <direwolf> got past router, port scanned my local address, tried a dos ....
[08:27] <kaffeend> as in, when I performed the ubuntu install
[08:27] <ray_> kaffeend, ive never had xp not boot to the cd no matter what the deal is...and im A+ certified
[08:28] <kaffeend> hmmm...
[08:28] <ray_> kaffeend, ubuntu wouldnt just delete windows files
[08:28] <kaffeend> ray_ well, it checks my hardware config and then just dies or freezes
[08:28] <pussfeller> most mice should be covered
[08:28] <mustafu> my xp installs went that way...with a bad power supply of course :/
[08:29] <kaffeend> ray_ my hd was unpartitioned before the ubuntu install, that's why I thought the two things were related
[08:29] <glick> its nice to see that adobe is no longer ignoring linux and finally provided a nice up-to-date acrobat reader
[08:29] <h08817> wow the ubuntu home page is down
[08:29] <glick> the sons-o-bitches
[08:29] <kaffeend> my partitioning of the HDD
[08:29] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah u are right that might be the issue
[08:29] <h08817> otherwise i would say that u could get the tutorial about the smartbootmanager
[08:30] <kaffeend> so I need to install windows on a clean drive and partition at the same time
[08:30] <h08817> boot to cd with a floppy
[08:30] <ray_> kaffeend, does the ubuntu disk boot
[08:30] <kaffeend> ray_ yep
[08:30] <ray_> kaffeend, so partition using the ubuntu setup
[08:31] <anacron> does ubuntu support ups devices well?
[08:31] <kaffeend> ray_ partition again with the same installation setup?
[08:31] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah but dont install just partition
[08:32] <kaffeend> ray_ wow I can do that? hmmm...
[08:32] <ray_> kaffeend, you have the coice to manually partition
[08:32] <kaffeend> ray_ pity I don't know anything about partitioning, heh?
[08:32] <direwolf> doh
[08:33] <ray_> kaffeend, if you just go into the partioner and delete all partitions windows should boot
[08:33] <nickrud> kaffeend, you're just trying to get your windows partition to boot? (after an ubuntu install)
[08:33] <kaffeend> ray_ excuse my ignorance, but where can I find the partitioner?
[08:34] <kaffeend> nickrud yep
[08:34] <glick> its amazing how much faster xfce loads compared to gnome
[08:34] <nickrud> kaffeend, join #flood, I have a generic grub stanza you can add that will boot most windows installs
[08:34] <ray_> kaffeend, hey dont beat yourself up......go through the menus you will get to where it has a partition dialog......you can choose manually partition
[08:34] <kaffeend> nickrud okay thanks
[08:39] <kaffeend> nickrud I must confess that I feel like I've been handed sacred chinese texts :s
[08:40] <kaffeend> nickrud keyword being Chinese
[08:40] <nickrud> lol
[08:40] <nickrud> sacred, more like, I can read these ;P
[08:40] <kaffeend> as in wtf is this shit? :P
[08:40] <zer0> how do you view files on other hard drives? i went to Places -> Computer but i can only see cd drive and floppy drive
[08:42] <nickrud> kaffeend, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  ; then add the text I gave you to the end of that file.
[08:42] <kaffeend> nickrud I was jk before dude
[08:42] <kaffeend> nickrud thanks mate
[08:42] <nickrud> ah, so, I don't have to walk you through it all, thank you ;P
[08:42] <anacron> how good pc i need for 686 kernel?
[08:42] <anacron> is 400mhz alright?
[08:43] <nickrud> anacron, what does uname -a say?
[08:43] <anacron> nickrud: im not in that machine right now
[08:43] <aaronc> how do I change my locale for date and time purposes?
[08:44] <anacron> aaronc: with date?
[08:44] <Madpilot> aaronc: right-click on the clock, Adjust Date & Time
[08:44] <ilba7r> is there an integrated development environment under gnome like kdevelop?
[08:44] <nickrud> anacron, if uname -m says i686, you'll be ok
[08:44] <anacron> nickrud: okay
[08:44] <aaronc> anacron: from the terminal
[08:44] <aaronc> madpilot: from the terminal
[08:45] <nickrud> aaronc, dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[08:45] <aaronc> how do I adjust my location settings
[08:45] <anacron> aaronc: did you check what date says
[08:45] <nickrud> aaronc, dpkg-reconfigure locales is the base stuff
[08:46] <anacron> nickrud: that's just a keyboard layout?
[08:46] <anacron> least for me it is
[08:46] <Madpilot> aaronc: hmm, sorry, no idea!
[08:46] <nickrud> aaronc, then, when you log in, you can choose a language you've configured from the login screen
[08:46] <nickrud> anacron, no, that is not keyboard, that is display
[08:47] <anacron> nickrud: yeah anyways that won't affect you time settings
[08:47] <aaronc> okay thanks I'' try logging out
[08:47] <nickrud> anacron, sorry, then tzconfig is what you want
[08:47] <anacron> aaronc: tzconfig
[08:47] <anacron> :D
[08:48] <anacron> damn he got away...
[08:48] <transgress_> i have discovered something
[08:48] <nickrud> it was tab completion, I swear
[08:48] <transgress_> xchat-text is no good
[08:48] <transgress_> brb
[08:48] <anacron> i prefer irssi :)
[08:49] <TestDummy> Whoa. 462 people, nuts o_o
[08:49] <TestDummy> Er, hm
[08:49] <TestDummy> I'm forgetting, isn't DMA disabled by default for optical drives in Ubuntu?
[08:50] <brokeboy> I've read the unoffical guide and did what it said about installing shit but i cant get any programs to work.  and yes i got ubuntu today.
[08:50] <nickrud> brokeboy, so, you linux savvy?
[08:50] <brokeboy> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:51] <PurpleMotion> !ubuntuguide
[08:51] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[08:51] <PurpleMotion> please, do NOT recommend the ubuntuguide
[08:51] <brokeboy> these mutherfuckers dont know what they're talking about
[08:51] <nickrud> brokeboy, use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as repositories
[08:51] <PurpleMotion> these what?
[08:51] <PurpleMotion> welcome to ignore, asshole.
[08:52] <TestDummy> Ouch.
[08:52] <nickrud> brokeboy, it has it's problems, but it has it's goodies as weel
[08:52] <glick> hey is there a way i can force my sudo privs to expire?
[08:52] <TestDummy> So, yeah, I forget if it's disabled or not.
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> erm
[08:52] <iiiears> "exit"
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> holdon
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> methinks i jumped the gun
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> brokeboy:  are you saying that the ubuntuguide failed you? (those mf'ers)?
[08:53] <ray_> no sound in gaim : (
[08:53] <brokeboy> they told me to change my repositorys but all they had was two lines diffrence and they said this : ## Backports
[08:53] <brokeboy> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[08:53] <brokeboy> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  go to custom command, and put in play %s
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> brokeboy:  that's why we dont use the ubuntuguide
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> go here
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> watch ubotu
[08:53] <ray_> PurpleMotion, play %s or just s
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> !repositories
[08:53] <ubotu> well, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:53] <synn> ubuntuguide is no help for anyone new
[08:53] <brokeboy> what did that script do?
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  play %s
[08:53] <ray_> ok
[08:54] <TestDummy> Whoa.
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> there are actually official backports repositories
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> !backports
[08:54] <ubotu> I heard backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[08:54] <brokeboy> what the hell is that?
[08:54] <nickrud> brokeboy, that ubotu link is the good, but the one I gave you is officially canonical :)
[08:54] <TestDummy> Heh, the Wiki assumes hdc is the cd drive.
[08:54] <TestDummy> It's hdb for me :|
[08:54] <TestDummy> I think I just answered my own question
[08:54] <HrdwrBoB> TestDummy: hdb?
[08:54] <HrdwrBoB> you're on crack
[08:54] <TestDummy> Er
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[08:54] <TestDummy> Yeah it's getting late.
[08:54] <glick> anyone here using ubuntu as a server?
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> thats what you want, brokeboy
[08:54] <HrdwrBoB> the CD should really be on a seperate channel
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> sorry for jumping the gun earlier
[08:54] <HrdwrBoB> the CD should be hdc or hdd
[08:55] <TestDummy> Well, the way mine is
[08:55] <HrdwrBoB> and the hard drive hda
[08:55] <ray_> PurpleMotion, didnt work
[08:55] <glick> or is that a role best reserved for debian sarge?
[08:55] <TestDummy> The first drive (hda) and cd drive (hdb) are on one, then the second drive is on the secondard channel, so it's hdc.
[08:55] <cafuego_> glick: debian is proven...
[08:55] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  hrmm, you dont have play?!?
[08:55] <TestDummy> Sounds pretty logical to me
[08:55] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  sound in general works, right?
[08:55] <ray_> PurpleMotion, no it said i didnt
[08:55] <ray_> PurpleMotion, yeah
[08:55] <TestDummy> I really know it could be set up better,  but  space is tight, small case.
[08:56] <nickrud> optomization welcome :)
[08:56] <cafuego_> Sheesh, even my 12 year old EXTERNAL scsi hdd is bigger then that ;-)
[08:57] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  finding the package, holdon
[08:57] <TestDummy> Bleh, I used to have Ubuntu on a 20GB
[08:57] <nickrud> I have two scsi disks on the shelf, and I'm looking at raiding them soon :)
[08:57] <TestDummy> Then it died, and I lost my bootloader. But I fixed that, tossed in a 10 and yeah.
[08:57] <PurpleMotion> okay, i give up
[08:57] <TestDummy> I'm insane :(
[08:58] <PurpleMotion> what fsckin package is play part of?
[08:58] <cafuego_> TestDummy: Mb, not Gb.
[08:58] <TestDummy> They made 10MB hard drives in 1999?
[08:58] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: haha
[08:58] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: time to throw stuff out
[08:58] <glick> damn i have soo much collective diskspace i dont know what to do with it all :(
[08:58] <TestDummy> Wait
[08:58] <TestDummy> I'm lost
[08:58] <cafuego_> TestDummy: Mine's a 20MB scsi
[08:58] <TestDummy> The colours, they are getting all mixed up :S
[08:58] <Madpilot> bah, my two optical drives are hda & hdb - my only HDD is a 120Gb SATA - sda...
[08:58] <glick> 300 gigs connected to my laptop alone
[08:59] <glick> 200 gigs on other servers
[08:59] <cafuego_> glick: iso mirror
[08:59] <iiiears> PurpleMotion - aptitude or synaptic "play" search should turn up something
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> I have three 200gb disks in a raid array which is full
[08:59] <TestDummy> For some reason, I remember Flash drives being sda :|
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> I need another two
[08:59] <TestDummy> I'm not too good at remembering things :
[08:59] <jut3xs> hi
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> TestDummy: that's correct
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> TestDummy: they are sdX
[08:59] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: dare I ask what's on that much disc space?
[08:59] <Madpilot> ;)
[09:00] <TestDummy> Then why did somebody just say they had a SATA drive on sda?
[09:00] <glick> cafuego, eh
[09:00] <iiiears> lol@madpilot
[09:00] <LinuxDolt> is it normal for wine to complain about this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:00] <synn> Madpilot: If you have to ask, you probably already know.  ;)
[09:00] <glick> i got a coupla sparc5s with 20 gigs between them
[09:00] <LinuxDolt> and then not run the game
[09:00] <PurpleMotion> that didnt work
[09:00] <glick> a 10 gig p2 400 that i plan to put smoothwall on one of these days
[09:00] <Madpilot> TestDummy: my (only) HDD is SDA
[09:01] <TestDummy> Heh, I have an old p2 400
[09:01] <TestDummy> But it doesn't like Ubuntu :(
[09:01] <TestDummy> Or any other Linux distro for tha tmatter
[09:01] <Belutz> how do i change the mouse cursor theme?
[09:01] <glick> TestDummy, why not?
[09:01] <glick> usually thats the best supported hardware in linux
[09:01] <TestDummy> I dunno, somebody said something about older hardware and what not..
[09:01] <TestDummy> I ran Warty on there before, now it doesn't even work
[09:01] <glick> older hardware is best supported
[09:01] <iiiears> Is LinuxDoIt - does he need glx installed for his card by reconfiguring the xserver or would he need to use synaptic to d/l it?
[09:02] <TestDummy> But I didn't come here about that :|
[09:02] <glick> what particularly dosnt work on it
[09:02] <TestDummy> I should really run memtest86 or something, poke around a bit more.
[09:02] <glick> i figure ill use one of my sparcs as a webserver
[09:02] <TestDummy> (It installs and everything, the kernel doesn't start. :( )
[09:02] <glick> or email server
[09:02] <TestDummy> But like I said, I didn't come here to ask about that :D
[09:02] <glick> i dont kow yet
[09:02] <PurpleMotion> ray_:
[09:03] <ray_> PurpleMotion, yeah
[09:03] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  sudo apt-get install sox
[09:03] <tha_gamemaster> i need help fixing my xorg... i broke it ^_^
[09:03] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  then play will work
[09:03] <synn> So, it's stupid noob idea time!
[09:03] <PurpleMotion> *uNF*
[09:03] <glick> i have more computers than i know what to do with
[09:03] <TestDummy> My laptop dislikes xorg :(
[09:03] <iiiears> LinuxDoIt - i am kinda new to linux. - just curious how many frames per second does the command "glxgears" show you when you type it in a console?
[09:03] <glick> between my and my roomie we have 13 computers in the house and not one runs MS
[09:03] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears my glxgears does nearly 4000
[09:03] <synn> I'm not a big fan of Gnome, I want to install fvwm.  I have NO idea what to do.  I've been told the learning curve is pretty steep.  Good idea or no?
[09:03] <iiiears> LinuxD, - glxgears is the test app for glx extensions.
[09:04] <tha_gamemaster> glick is my hero, i'm the only non-MS in my house
[09:04] <TestDummy> opinion*
[09:04] <glick> heh
[09:04] <ray_> PurpleMotion, THANKS IT WORKED
[09:04] <Madpilot> glick: cool. cluster them to crunch folding/seti stuff!
[09:04] <PurpleMotion> anytime
[09:04] <iiiears> tha_, great numbers :)
[09:04] <glick> my roomie runs an outdated slackware on his desktop
[09:04] <glick> he never updates or upgrades
[09:04] <glick> hes like at 9.0
[09:05] <glick> now like 10.5 is out
[09:05] <crispynix-v6> synn: try kde first, and if you like the tweaking aspects, try Enlightenment. If you like editing text files for configuration, then fvwm might be for you.
[09:05] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears thanks! but my xorg is broken right now..
[09:05] <topyli> iiiears: i get 311 FPS :)
[09:05] <nickrud> glick, so, he's getting work done, right ;P
[09:05] <laserline> PurpleMotion?  Your not the old school tracker purpleMotion are you
[09:05] <iiiears> Really? - thats awful. - has someone tried to help.
[09:05] <synn> A friend of mine is running his brand new laptop off an old gentoo live cd....
[09:05] <PurpleMotion> laserline:  no, but he's an idol of mine
[09:06] <topyli> iiiears: nah, it's an old matrox card which i love. i don't care much about doom3 and such
[09:06] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears not yet. what's the line? dpkg-reconfigure xorg? is it x-org? yes i'm using sudo
[09:06] <glick> i dont particularly like my roomie
[09:06] <iiiears> topyli, - yep - a prosavage card here my numbers are about the same.
[09:06] <nickrud> lol
[09:06] <iiiears> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:06] <glick> he ask me to do the dishes and i told him to screw himself that i am never doing the dishes,
[09:07] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears THANKS!
[09:07] <iiiears> Cool
[09:07] <transgre1s> hey hooligans
[09:07] <topyli> iiiears: good enough for nethack :)
[09:07] <jut3xs> hlo
[09:07] <laserline> glick: at least you're not throwing dishes at him (yet)
[09:07] <nickrud> glick, trust me, women you want will want you to do the dishes; learn
[09:08] <iiiears> lol - roflmao - "" -  very depressed a few nights ago and checked that out.
[09:08] <PurpleMotion> oh gawd its glick again ;)
[09:08] <PurpleMotion> <-- computer__guru, glick
[09:08] <glick> nickrud, for woman its different, in fact im a clean dude, but my roomie is non-coperative, and is an all around ass, so im like screw you dude, im not lifting a finger to clean anything other than my own room
[09:09] <laserline> oh snap son
[09:09] <glick> so broken keyboards, and trash and dishes pile the living room a mile high
[09:09] <nickrud> glick, been there, too. I just had to throw that curveball in :)
[09:09] <iiiears> just kick the dirty clothes to his side of the room ;)
[09:09] <glick> i will never vacuum, and never clean anything or take out the trash
[09:10] <glick> him and his nasty animal of a girlfriend
[09:11] <glick> i cant tell if she tries to be nice or condescending
[09:11] <glick> either way she annoys me
[09:11] <Belutz> topyli: hai again :D do you know how to change the mouse cursor theme?
[09:12] <iiiears> sometimes the student union is the only escape.
[09:12] <glick> heh
[09:12] <nickrud> I spent many hours there
[09:12] <glick> hehe i work at the learning center of my university, i hit on some hot bitches there all the time
[09:13] <glick> lol my boss is like "look dave you cant hit on students that come here lookin for tutoring it might make them uncomfortavle"
[09:13] <topyli> Belutz: there's a package called gcursor in universe
[09:13] <Belutz> topyli: ok, thanks for the info :)
[09:13] <glick> and im like "screw you, i do what i want! Im your boss you hear!"
[09:13] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - VESA is always available. - just tweak it until it cries "uncle" and gives you accel
[09:13] <sinferno> does anyone have any advice on installing multiple versions of cedega
[09:14] <nickrud> tha_gamemaster, heh, breezy?
[09:14] <tha_gamemaster> nickrud lol no ... confuzzled ^_^
[09:14] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears vesa? no it's not a startx error, it just says there's no startx command
[09:14] <nickrud> :)
[09:15] <glick> damn zone edit doesnt do portfowarding and cloaking at the same time :(
[09:15] <glick> does either one or the other
[09:15] <iiiears> no startx ?????
[09:15] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears yea!
[09:15] <iiiears> !xserver
[09:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, xserver is to reconfigure your Xserver, type into a terminal "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the "")
[09:16] <nickrud> tha_gamemaster, no mailx either
[09:16] <Madpilot> !info startx
[09:16] <cmijoa> how I read external mail into mutt?
[09:16] <glick> whats happening?
[09:16] <glick> what does that mean?
[09:16] <Madpilot> what does what mean, glick?
[09:16] <glick> that global notice?
[09:16] <tha_gamemaster> nickrud i have mailx
[09:17] <nickrud> tha_gamemaster, breezy?
[09:17] <nickrud> I don't
[09:17] <tha_gamemaster> glick i think it means the ubuntu channel will be down for a little while
[09:17] <glick> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:17] <tha_gamemaster> brb guys, ... if there is still a channel ^_^
[09:17] <iiiears> tha_, - lspci ls=list pci=devices should give an answer. - match the info given. (i added a leading zero to the bus address when it was a single digit.)
[09:18] <glick> is it for all of freenode or just this channel?
[09:19] <monsterror> Can someone here give me some fluxbox help?
[09:19] <Madpilot> what was in that lilo message? I assumed it was more testing quasi-spam, and killed the tab without opening it. wasn't it?
[09:19] <iiiears> !fluxbox
[09:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, iiiears
[09:19] <iiiears> doh
[09:19] <monsterror> !fluxbox?
[09:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, monsterror
[09:19] <monsterror> !fluxbox
[09:19] <ubotu> monsterror: No idea
[09:20] <Madpilot> !info fluxbox
[09:20] <iiiears> give me a sec - not too familiar with it. gotta be a link on the ubuntu wiki.
[09:20] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB
[09:20] <nickrud> Madpilot, that was a warning that this channel will be in serious flux for a bit
[09:20] <Madpilot> nickrud: ack. thanks, that'll teach me to kill tabs without reading them!
[09:20] <iiiears> nice but little help
[09:21] <tha_gamemaster> hey channel is still up cool
[09:22] <sinferno> does anyone have any advice on installing multiple versions of cedega
[09:23] <nickrud> test
[09:23] <Madpilot> ???
[09:23] <iiiears> i can't find a link for fluxbox
[09:24] <Madpilot> in the wiki? neither could I
[09:24] <tha_gamemaster> sinferno wish i did... i'm not sure it's possible
[09:25] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - did "lspci" give you any helpful info?
[09:25] <nickrud> iiiears, you can start at http://freshmeat.net/projects/fluxbox/
[09:25] <nickrud> only 2 points off :)
[09:26] <glick> am i the only one that wants one of those new japanese sex androids?
[09:26] <monsterror> I dont think there particurally designed for sex
[09:26] <iiiears> thanks nickrud - got the impression he has already installed it and has some other problem.
[09:26] <nickrud> glick, probably, within a 2 mile radius
[09:26] <n8lewis> is there a way to mount a .iso file as a cd drive?
[09:26] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears my video card is there no problem... is there another command to start x from console ? everything is installed....
[09:26] <sinferno> tha_gamemaster, cause like i know that daoc works with cedega 4.0 but i have 4.4
[09:26] <glick> monsterror, are you kidding! this is the japanese we're talking about, of course it was made for sex
[09:27] <sinferno> tha_gamemaster, and for the sake of my other games i dont want to have to completely roll back
[09:27] <iiiears> xfce4 works pretty well and is also light on resources. - add the xfmedia player and you should be good to go.
[09:27] <glick> we are talking about the most kinky and perverse people on the planet
[09:27] <sinferno> tha_gamemaster, i know theres an option in p2p but i dont use p2p
[09:27] <tha_gamemaster> sinferno for some odd reason my transgaming account was like deleted or something... i've got to figure that out... i hate how diff versions are compat withdiff stuff
[09:27] <nickrud> college students?
[09:27] <tha_gamemaster> sinferno yea i don't like p2p either
[09:28] <n8lewis> sweet just wanted to know so I won't lose any thing if I mess up
[09:28] <glick> im in college
[09:28] <yahalom> hey guys. is there an option to play the live CD of a projector? any experience with this?
[09:28] <n8lewis> is there a way to mount a .iso file as a cd drive?
[09:28] <thundrcleeze> yahalom, you mean use the projector as a display device?
[09:28] <monsterror> I knew how to mount an .iso on Windows, but I don't know if they make anything like Daemon Tools for Linux
[09:28] <synn> I've been looking for a specific set of icons, they almost seem to be set up for a Mac G5-type display.  They're dark, and the only bright color is green.  Anybody have any idea what I'm talking about here?
[09:28] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - VESA will give you a gui desktop and firefox. (not too much for gaming at all. #$%^)
[09:29] <sinferno> monsterror, just mount /path/to/file.iso /location/to/mount
[09:29] <rob^> monsterror, its called "mount"
[09:29] <Madpilot> !themes
[09:29] <ubotu> methinks themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[09:29] <nickrud> n8lewis, mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[09:29] <sinferno> monsterror, do mount -o loop /path/
[09:29] <sinferno> i think
[09:29] <Madpilot> synn: see ubotu's post ^^^  ?
[09:29] <sinferno> isnt that it?
[09:29] <thundrcleeze> yahalom, if it uses a standard monitor output it shouldn't be a problem
[09:29] <monsterror> guys guys guys... I dont need the mounting help
[09:29] <yahalom> thundrcleeze: yes] 
[09:29] <n8lewis> nickrud, thanks
[09:30] <iiiears> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  again - it will work tho it is a real pain to get accel working with ati
[09:30] <sinferno> monsterror, if you have a valid iso you should be able to mount it just like daemon tools
[09:30] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears i want a desktop i can use for pvr... that's all really... but vesa is a driver, i'm still not getting you
[09:30] <nickrud> n8lewis, the first google hit gave me a great cut and paste :)
[09:30] <sinferno> monsterror, linux can mount isos no problem
[09:30] <thundrcleeze> yahalom, I mean if the projector has a standard monitor input.
[09:30] <synn> No, I didn't, but I do now!  I think I saw them on gnome-look, but I'm not sure....wish me luck!
[09:30] <n8lewis> lol
[09:30] <yahalom> thundrcleeze: meaning as that he plugs the projector in the monitor port? he does.
[09:30] <glick> i dont knwo much about anything about applications programming and i graduate in 9 months
[09:30] <iiiears> tha - dpkg-reconfigure will work. it is just findiing the right settings for your card.
[09:31] <glick> the sad fact is that i may not get to use python much in my career :(
[09:31] <yahalom> thundrcleeze: or u dont mean that?
[09:31] <monsterror> So could anyone find any info on Fluxbox/
[09:31] <iiiears> i am going out on a limb and guessing that lspci will give you the info about the bus id address.
[09:31] <thundrcleeze> yahalom, then it should just work as a regular monitor.  All you should have to do is set what resolution it runs at.
[09:31] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears i'm not having setting problems... but there is no command to STARTX... it's like... xorg is installed, windowmanagers are installed, but no startx....
[09:32] <iiiears> i don't think xorg is being given the right bus address.
[09:32] <nickrud> tha_gamemaster, it'll come back
[09:32] <tha_gamemaster> nickrud how ? @_@
[09:33] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - now see what you have done. now i am confuzzled.
[09:33] <_youngcoder> lol
[09:34] <nickrud> tha_gamemaster, it's in xbase-clients. That's in flux right now (breezy) but I would be seriously amazed if it wasn't fixed soon.
[09:34] <monsterror> You know, not having a slit in fluxbox is annoying. I keep minimizing things, just  so I can never restore it
[09:34] <kaizerbillimoria> hello
[09:34] <iiiears> what error message are you seeing? - does it attempt to start or just show one line of text "no such command"?
[09:35] <youngcoder> kaizerbillimoria, hello!
[09:35] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears "bash - startx command not found"
[09:35] <kaizerbillimoria> i need some help with ubuntu Super user can anyone help me out?
[09:35] <kaizerbillimoria> hello youngcoder!
[09:35] <youngcoder> kaizerbillimoria, what is your question?
[09:35] <kaizerbillimoria> thx youngcoder
[09:35] <yahalom> thundrcleeze: thanx
[09:36] <kaizerbillimoria> when i boot intoubuntu i login using my name
[09:36] <youngcoder> ok
[09:36] <thundrcleeze> yahalom, is he having troubles right now?
[09:36] <kaizerbillimoria> however if i want to log in as super user in shell it asks me for password
[09:36] <kaizerbillimoria> what password do i give?
[09:36] <thundrcleeze> and no problem, yahalom
[09:36] <thundrcleeze> kaizerbillimoria, your user password.
[09:36] <nickrud> kaizerbillimoria, try using your own password
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> let me rephrase that youngcoder..my bad!!
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> see
[09:37] <youngcoder> kaizerbillimoria, the same as your username
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> whatever password i give
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> it says wrong password
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> or invalid password
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> does that mean...
[09:37] <kaizerbillimoria> that my default log in is by root?
[09:37] <iiiears> !rootsudo
[09:37] <ubotu> it has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:37] <nickrud> 0-0
[09:37] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears hehe confuzed? ^_^
[09:38] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - Is gnome your default window manager?
[09:38] <thundrcleeze> kaizerbillimoria, see ubotu's link
[09:38] <ws011> hai
[09:39] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears no, i disabled gnome and uninstalled it, i only have 1.8GB for / and gnome is about that big ;)
[09:39] <monsterror> Gah, Gedit is taking forever to load
[09:39] <kaizerbillimoria> thx ubotu, thundrcleeze
[09:39] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - ah... now there is hope. - new info. :)
[09:39] <thundrcleeze> no problem, kaizerbillimoria
[09:40] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears i have flwm and icewm-lite installed, and xorg-server and xorg-common, xfonts-75dpi, etc, but no command to init X... should i try init 5 ?
[09:40] <ws011> haiiii
[09:41] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - no harm in trying it.
[09:41] <LinuxDolt> whoohoo!
[09:41] <ColonelKernel> you know ubuntu really spoiled me
[09:41] <youngcoder> hiyas LinuxDolt
[09:41] <ColonelKernel> now I use ubuntu for desktop and centos for server
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> why do they put deprecated shit into new kernels.. kinda retarded dont ya think
[09:41] <ColonelKernel> I discovered the breezy kernels - which work great btw
[09:42] <ColonelKernel> I am haivng a problem figuring out something in the kernel config
[09:42] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - let me apologize for not asking what window manager you are using.
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> what?
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> im building a kernel right now :D
[09:42] <nickrud> my god, there is no xinit in my path :)
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> my god im blind without my glasses
[09:43] <nickrud> tha_gamemaster, you may not be here, but I see that :)
[09:43] <PurpleMotion> how did i live without these things
[09:43] <iiiears> nickrud - lol - okay, okay, - i am a newb. - pitch in where you can. - lol
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> well im trying to figure out function alignment
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> the help on it says power of n in the beginning then it gives a straight integer
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> and its confusing
[09:44] <kaizerbillimoria> ubotu i need more information are youthere?
[09:44] <ubotu> kaizerbillimoria: what are you talking about?
[09:44] <ColonelKernel> Align the start of functions to the next power-of-two greater than n,   
[09:44] <ColonelKernel>    skipping up to n bytes.  For instance, 32 aligns functions              
[09:44] <ColonelKernel>    to the next 32-byte boundary, but 24 would align to the next            
[09:44] <ColonelKernel>    32-byte boundary only if this can be done by skipping 23 bytes or less. 
[09:44] <ColonelKernel>    Zero means use compiler's default.
[09:44] <kaizerbillimoria> ubotu: this is my first step in to the linux world.
[09:44] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, kaizerbillimoria
[09:44] <ColonelKernel> WHoah - im very sorry I thought that would be one line
[09:44] <youngcoder> ubotu, you gave him the rootsudo link
[09:44] <ubotu> youngcoder: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:45] <kaizerbillimoria> ubotu: i am interested in learning bash shell scripting. can you point me to some good bash shell tutorials?
[09:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, kaizerbillimoria
[09:45] <ColonelKernel> anyhow - is the number I punch in there gonna be a power of two, or the straight integer I want to use?
[09:45] <nickrud> iiiears, we all are newbs, unless we're arrogant or James Troup or equiv. I can live with that :)
[09:45] <ws011> hajii
[09:45] <ws011> jiakjiksl
[09:45] <glick> hey where is stdio.h in the syste,?
[09:45] <glick> system
[09:45] <PurpleMotion> !root
[09:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:46] <iiiears> (was hoping to join the kernel-de team next tues. - roguesh grin)
[09:46] <nickrud> !find stdioi.h
[09:46] <PurpleMotion> is it /usr/include ?
[09:46] <nickrud> !find stdio.h
[09:46] <nickrud> sorry
[09:46] <kaizerbillimoria> Friends, i need a pointer to a good tutorial on bash shell scripting. CAn anyone help me out? A link on the www will be helpful
[09:47] <youngcoder> kaizerbillimoria, one sec let me grab a link for you
[09:47] <PurpleMotion> kaizerbillimoria:  there are entire books written.. bash ROCKS
[09:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'stdioi.h' returned no results.
[09:47] <iiiears> bash.org????????
[09:47] <kaizerbillimoria> youngcoder: thank you. This is my first attempt at bash shell scripting and linux!!
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> kaizerbillimoria:  good luck :)
[09:48] <Madpilot> kaizerbillimoria: www.linuxcommand.org has starting bash scripting info - good stuff
[09:48] <youngcoder> kaizerbillimoria, im very noobish myself
[09:48] <iiiears> feel the power of the linux force
[09:48] <nickrud> ubotu, you lied, you gave me Ubuntu Search of 'stdio.h' (6 shown; 42 total): (/usr/include/lam/tstdio.h) in devel/lam4-dev ;; (/usr/lib/perl/5.8.4/CORE/nostdio.h) in perl/perl ;; (/usr/include/isc/stdio.h) in libdevel/libbind-dev ;; (/usr/include/sfio/stdio.h) in universe/devel/sfio-dev ;; (/usr/share/cmix/shadow/stdio.h) in universe/devel/cmix ;; (/usr/share/splint/lib/stdio.h) in universe/devel/splint.
[09:48] <ubotu> nickrud: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:48] <youngcoder> kaizerbillimoria, www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html
[09:49] <nickrud> heh, talking to a bot (intelligent one anyway)
[09:49] <PurpleMotion> someone write this down
[09:49] <PurpleMotion> make modules started at 3.48am
[09:49] <kaizerbillimoria> youngcoder: Thanks a ton I shall go there now...
[09:50] <iiiears> the linux documentation project is mecca
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> im gonna flash my jornada 690 tomorrow and put familiar/opie on it
[09:50] <iiiears> jerusalem?
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> *gulp* conversion??
[09:50] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears ok so... i got x to init. /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[09:51] <kaizerbillimoria> thank you all
[09:52] <tha_gamemaster> hi glick
[09:52] <glick> hi tha_gamemaster
[09:52] <PurpleMotion> well now
[09:52] <PurpleMotion> THAT was fsckin hairy
[09:52] <Amaranth> Guys, #ubuntu is closed until this finishes. ;)
[09:52] <tha_gamemaster> glick so it wasn't so bad...
[09:53] <Amaranth> because you aren't going to be able to have a conversation
[09:53] <tha_gamemaster> Amaranth so should we leave?
[09:53] <Amaranth> unless this goes perfectly
[09:53] <Amaranth> no, you don't have to leave
[09:53] <Amaranth> it was a joke
[09:53] <Amaranth> but yeah, this isn't done yet
[09:53] <PurpleMotion> it seems to be going pretty smoothe
[09:53] <tha_gamemaster> Amaranth lol i know
[09:53] <tha_gamemaster> Amaranth i'm surprised i got in so fast
[09:53] <iceman-AMD64> how to add KDE to ubuntu
[09:54] <Amaranth> someone thinking clearer than me dropped the +j
[09:54] <Tomcat_> iceman-AMD64: Install kubuntu-desktop
[09:54] <Amaranth> err, +J
[09:54] <PurpleMotion> iceman-AMD64:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:54] <Amaranth> i think it was freenode staff, actually
[09:54] <iiiears> whatch your firewall logs. match ip addresses against the freenode server names you know.
[09:54] <iiiears> Hey that was fun. zombied XP desktops/hijacked gameservers for a dns poisoning?
[09:54] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears woah you lost me coach ^_^
[09:55] <Amaranth> iiiears: network is upgrading to a new ircd
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> iiiears aka paranoia boy
[09:55] <iceman-AMD64> Does Americ's Army for linux work on 64 bit ?
[09:55] <iiiears> in the bad old days of quake1 you could launch a distributed denial of service attack with an easily forged packet. - likely not too difficult with newer game servers.
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> well
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> forging packets has gotten harder, thank god
[09:56] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears ok so i got x to run, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but "no screens found"
[09:56] (f_newton/#ubuntu) well is there any reason why you cant "borrow" rafb.net/paste?
[09:57] <iiiears> iceman - as i understand it not natively (please don't quote me) - it will run in an 32 bit chroot environment.
[09:57] (f_newton/#ubuntu) they do get washed yaknow
[09:57] <kaffeend> where are all these ppl coming from?
[09:57] <iceman-AMD64> got to study that 32 bit chroot stuff ...
[09:57] <nickrud> hm
[09:57] <PurpleMotion> this one has tho
[09:57] <f_newton> kaffeend, freenode is doing some major server changes
[09:57] <PurpleMotion> see
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> there it goes
[09:58] <Amaranth> whee
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> hai, fsckers
[09:58] <Amaranth> told you
[09:58] <nickrud> kaffeend, the networks ops are hard at work, we just watch
[09:58] <Amaranth> look at the new idents
[09:58] <Amaranth> N=foo, I=foo
[09:58] <iiiears> Hi
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> what do they mean?
[09:58] <psurani> !
[09:58] <psurani> !w
[09:58] <kaffeend> f_newton it's quite annoying, isn't it?
[09:58] <f_newton> hyperion
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> oh
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> for ident and no ident
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> that's gay
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> the ~ did that anyways
[09:59] <Amaranth> http://freenode.net/news.shtml <--what is happening
[09:59] <Amaranth> oh, and the new cloaks
[09:59] <PurpleMotion> we can cloak now?
[09:59] <f_newton> well kaffeend why dont you msg lilo and tell him how upset you are that he is updating and maintaining his million dollar plus network is upsetting u
[09:59] <Amaranth> but my cloak isn't updated
[09:59] <Amaranth> hmm
[09:59] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: no
[09:59] <nickrud> what's a cloak?
[09:59] <kaffeend> f_newton uptight, are we? I never said I was upset
[09:59] <Amaranth> nickrud: "amaranth.user"
[10:00] <Amaranth> ubotu: is on the old servers still
[10:00] <ubotu> Amaranth: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:00] <f_newton> no... I am not but a little consideration on your part since you pay nothing for all this technology
[10:00] <Amaranth> and will probably not rejoin once it dies
[10:00] <f_newton> oooh three hundred words....
[10:01] <kaffeend> f_newton I didn't mean to say "Linux sucks and so does f_newton" or anything like that - Jeez
[10:01] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears heyas again @_@
[10:01] <f_newton> I didnt say you did, but you did say it was annoying to you that you were having to deal with this... annoyance
[10:01] <f_newton> and i was merely showing you how silly that was
[10:02] <iiiears> curious must be a setting to ignore join and part messages.
[10:02] <synn> wow, holy netsplit
[10:02] <f_newton> I give out thousands of free meals every week rain  or shine and the people that come for them complain all the time about how I am not serving their needs as well as they expect
[10:02] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears so you get my message about "no screens found" ?
[10:02] <Madpilot> Mother of All Netsplits
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> i want purplemotion.user
[10:02] <Amaranth> synn: server upgrades
[10:03] <iiiears> no i didn't
[10:03] <f_newton> I find that a little ingracious
[10:03] <nickrud> f_newton, I did that for years as well, and still do :)
[10:03] <iiiears> got it now tho.
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> or actually i guess now it will be user/purplemotion
[10:03] <f_newton> good for you !
[10:03] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears ok so i got x to run, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but "no screens found"
[10:03] <nickrud> my living, actually ;)
[10:03] <f_newton> where at nickrud if I may ask?
[10:03] <tha_gamemaster> oh you got it now ?
[10:03] <f_newton> well I dont get paid for it
[10:03] <kaffeend> f_newton I'm sorry that you're in a bad mood... but I believe I am free to be annoyed... I know it needs doing - it's for the best, yada yada yada, I am not an ungrateful prick as you might think, just tired and a little annoyed at the scrolling window text - didn't realize it was maintainence...
[10:04] <nickrud> currently san antonio, but seattle, san francisco, and other places over the years
[10:04] <f_newton> as a matter of fact its just about impoverished me
[10:04] <iiiears> tha_gamemaster - going to apologize for not knowing how to help.
[10:04] <nickrud> f_newton, and you are absolutely right about it never being adequate for some
[10:05] <tha_gamemaster> iiiears not your fault! no apologies necessary or even requested, thanks for listening! ^_^
[10:05] <Amaranth> That's enough guys.
[10:05] <f_newton> kaffeend, again you try to put your overinflated self awareness as my fault.    just drop it ok?   but try to remember that you are just a user here in cyber land and what the people who provide you with this service do is not good reason for you to be annoyed
[10:05] <synn> And for anybody that caught it earlier, I'm looking for a specific icon pack...I can't find it, I've been to every link anyone's posted, and I've probably missed it.  The only one that I know of that looks like it is an OSX theme, but dark.
[10:05] <iiiears> i am sorry - just too new at this only have tried 3 window managers. :?