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Aapzaknikkia: I'm curious12:10
nikkiayeah, i'm sure you are :P12:10
Aapzak:)12:11
Larry_WallHello?12:13
Larry_Wall_frank?12:13
_frankyeah?12:13
AapzakLarry!12:13
Larry_WallHow do I use the document feeder capability for my HP Officejet 7410?12:14
_frankLarry_Wall: I don't know.12:14
_frankLarry_Wall: If someone knew, they would answer but how many of us do you think have your exact printer. Try google12:14
Larry_WallOkay. Thank you _frank. :)12:15
_frankLarry_Wall: look for generic info, not ubuntu specific12:15
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Tranquitoswas he the real one?12:17
Tranquitoshehe12:18
_frank?12:18
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nikkiaTranquitos: doubtful12:19
nikkiathe real LW would use a irc client written in perl, not gaim12:19
Blissexwhich automounting dmon or scripts are used for removable media in Kubuntu?12:20
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othernoobnikkia: has the usage stats of a partition in kde been fixed?12:25
Tranquitosnikkia: i was wondering if he was the real Larry Wall...12:26
Tranquitosit seems not. hehe12:26
nikkiaothernoob: i doubt it12:26
nikkiaTranquitos: as i said, the real LW wouldn't come here via gaim :)12:27
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LinusTorvalds:)12:27
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Tranquitoswow... great personalities today, huh? ;)12:27
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AlGoreI invented Kubuntu?12:27
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LeonurdoDaVinciHello?12:28
LeonurdoDaVinciI invented everything important12:28
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Aapzakonzin12:29
thoreauputicAapzak: it helps if you spell the name right ;)12:29
Aapzakanyone from Australia here?12:30
nikkiaexcept religious tolerance, eh?12:30
Aapzaknikkia: dunno anything about religion12:30
nikkiaAapzak: i was referring to DaVinci :)12:30
bbaileyIn his defence, he did say "important", which was at least in character. ;)12:31
nikkiahe might have invented a lot of stuff, but the one thing he really needed - religious tolerance, he didn't have12:31
AapzakI know, I was not aware of that12:31
thoreauputicnikkia: the connection between Leonardo and religious tolerance seems tenuous...12:31
nikkiaAapzak: thats why his books were all coded12:31
AapzakI'd better choose Ghandi then12:31
AapzakCan I learn that from reading Dan Brown?12:32
nikkiaAapzak: probably not12:32
Aapzak:)12:32
nikkiaprobably won't learn anything, doing that :)12:32
AapzakSo Leonardo was some kind of extremist?12:32
nikkiai shudder at the thought of who they get to do the movie...12:32
thoreauputicnikkia: His books were actually just in mirror writing - he was ambidextrous and had an unusual brain organisation that allowed him to write backwards12:33
nikkiathe questionaire i was asked to do about it, suggested that they were considering damon whats-his-face from bourne identity *shudder*12:33
bbaileymatt damon?12:33
thoreauputicAapzak: umm - Leonaredo da Vinci was a great Renaissance artist and scientist12:33
Aapzakmat damon it is12:33
nikkiathoreauputic: parts of them are in code too, the parts he feared the church would lynch him for12:33
thoreauputic*Leonardo12:33
nikkiabbailey: thats him12:33
thoreauputicnikkia: aha - OK12:33
nikkiathoreauputic: which is mostly stuff about the human body12:34
nikkiathoreauputic: ie, 'nope, no soul in this bit!' :)12:34
thoreauputicnikkia: right - you are correct 12:34
thoreauputicnikkia: I was forgetting the dissection tabu12:34
Aapzakso what about his religious intolerance?12:34
nikkiaAapzak: he wasn't intolerant, the church was intolerant of science at the time12:35
thoreauputicAapzak: he wasn't the one who was intolerant12:35
Aapzakallright12:35
nikkia(still is, if we're being brutally honest)12:35
nikkiaat least they've stopped inventing nonsense like vampires and witches tho, mostly12:35
Aapzak:)12:35
Aapzakfear is a great weapon12:36
thoreauputicnikkia: the difficulty nowadays is that one cannot really speak of "the Church" (since the Reformation and subsequent many faceted events)12:37
Aapzaksince I don't know anything about religion I actually learnt something from 'the Bernini Mystery'12:38
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Aapzaklol12:38
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Sarg3hi"!12:39
Aapzakhey12:39
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nikkiathoreauputic: true12:39
Sarg3i'm from kubuntu12:39
Sarg3on vmware :D12:39
Sarg3it's too c00l12:39
Aapzakyes, too bad you did not wipe out windows and just run ubuntu from boot12:39
nikkiathoreauputic: i was going to say 'i've seen both sides of the church' but then realised that 'both sides of organised religion' would be more suitable, since the catholics are cold hearted baby killers, and don't have a good side :P12:39
nikkiai've seen the good side of the methodists and CoE tho12:40
bbaileyI actually first tried (k)ubuntu using vmware, on debian sid.12:40
Aapzaklol12:40
thoreauputicnikkia: I am most in sympathy with Quakerism12:40
Aapzakisms, I don't know about them12:41
nikkiathoreauputic: all i know is that the methodists were very good to me when i was sick12:41
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nikkiaon top of that, they knew i am atheist, and didn't even try to convert me, were just there and offered support12:41
nikkiait was appreciated12:42
thoreauputicnikkia: Quakers don't try to ram their beliefs down your throat - they believe that there is "That of God in everyone"12:42
Sarg3WOW!12:42
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Sarg3i downloaded kubuntu this afternoon, now i installed it, and...12:42
Sarg3Firefox 1.0.612:42
thoreauputicnikkia: yes, Christianity sometimes gets a bad press ;)12:42
Sarg3it's updated!12:42
nikkiathoreauputic: its those cold hearted baby killers! :P12:42
nikkiathoreauputic: they spoil it for everyone12:43
thoreauputicnikkia: well, the Salem witch trials were conducted by protestants ;)12:43
nikkiathoreauputic: yes, but the S.W.T always annoy me12:44
thoreauputicnikkia: every institution has its evil side ;)12:44
nikkiathoreauputic: an event way overblown12:44
jbasiliolarge groups have a way of decaying12:44
jbasiliosmall groups can hold ideas .. large groups need rules and regulation .. which lets in corruption12:44
thoreauputicnikkia: it was probably mostly about envy and coveting other people's land, actually (Salem)12:44
jbasiliomy $0.005 cents12:44
jbasilios/ideas/ideals12:45
m0zonepeople in large groups seam to screw up things faster12:45
nikkiathoreauputic: yeah, but i dislike how the media makes it out to have been some massive event 'comparable to the crusades' when in reality it was 19 people12:45
m0zoneplus if they think sea monsters and such are real    things go down hill quick12:45
thoreauputicnikkia: the play "The Crucible" is a fascinating study of the event: with strong references to the McCarthy era in the USA (similar hysteria)12:46
m0zonegood thing  witch trails dont happen these days !12:46
m0zonelol12:46
thoreauputicm0zone: they do - they just go by different names12:47
m0zonei know i was bein a ass12:47
nikkiam0zone: they do, we just call them 'paedophiles' instead of 'witches' these days - and no, i don't condone paedophilia, but the mass hysteria annoys me12:47
m0zonebut on another note people hate things they dont understand look at how other religions are treated12:48
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m0zonethese days i mean12:48
thoreauputicnikkia: or they get called "terrorists" whether they are or not12:49
nikkiathoreauputic: true12:49
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jbasiliopeople need things to demonize.  it gives them purpose.12:51
jbasilioincluding us .. demonizing those people.  :)12:51
paxthat's why I can't wait for NASA to discover some space creatures we can label as the 'enemy', that should bring the human race together somewhat.12:52
jbasilioworks in the movies.  and star trek.  haha12:52
nikkiapax, they'd better be insectoids12:52
jbasilio(i'm doubting it).  you'll just see famine eat all the other ones left12:53
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paxnever say never. or maybe I should stop playing xbox games12:53
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c0rrupt_hi does anyone use teamspeak on kubuntu in here?12:53
jbasilioi say play the xbox games anyways.  it makes for a good diversion from the demonizing.12:53
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bjvyeah12:54
bjvi use ts212:54
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paxlook at niger, people starve to death while others spend tons of money killing each other12:56
thoreauputicpax: look at the US government and their rhetoric about Weapons of Mass Destruction while bombing the crap out of Baghdad .. there is nothing new under the sun I'm afraid12:59
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sirlordthello to all01:00
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paxthoreauputic: if you are American then you should understand that America's interests should always come first.01:01
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thoreauputicpax: 1) I'm not American 2) My mother was American so I'm not anti-US 3) No nation's interests come first when it's a question of human suffering01:03
bjvi can see "if you are a Human then you should understand that Human's interest should always come first"01:03
paxPolitics is/was/ will never be based on human values.01:03
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bjvAFAIS it's alright for us to be outrageous psychopaths as a race though01:04
bjvbeing outrageous psychopaths based on flags though is a little unsettling.01:04
bjvoh and that: i use ts2 was aimed at c0rrupt_01:05
thoreauputicpax: Some of us prefer to avoid the sickness of nationalism - it has caused all kinds of troubles not exceeded by idiotic wars of religion01:05
bjvdid you have a question or something?01:05
c0rrupt_yea01:06
c0rrupt_i dont know if its working or not01:06
c0rrupt_its kinda bugging everything up01:06
c0rrupt_and its muting my computer01:06
nikkiabjv: PETA would disagree :P01:06
c0rrupt_can i come to your server and test it?01:06
bjvi find it to be very slow on starting01:07
paxthoreauputic: yeah we can talk for hours, but policy makers will not listen. =)01:07
bjvfairly smooth on operation01:07
thoreauputicpax: this is true indeed01:07
c0rrupt_bjv can i come to your server and test my mic, sound etc01:08
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bjvyeah, lemme pull up the IP01:08
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c0rrupt_ah my god..01:08
bjvi dont have a mic though, :P01:08
c0rrupt_everything is buggy01:08
c0rrupt_thats alright01:08
c0rrupt_just let me know if you can hear me01:08
c0rrupt_lately kubuntu has been worse than windows xp as far as bugginess goes01:09
c0rrupt_:'(01:09
bjvteamspeak://69.44.152.92/?nickname=OdieSigGuest01:09
c0rrupt_wowwwwwwwwwww01:10
c0rrupt_soooo buggy01:10
c0rrupt_keeps crashing now01:11
bjvcrap, could you get on with that nick?01:11
bjvmaybe he took it down.01:11
supernixHi01:13
c0rrupt_maybe01:13
supernixI am having trouble with getting the default font set can someone give me a pointer ?01:13
sirlordthello i had the problem my clock is to slow in kubuntu and ubuntu the second is running to slow 01:17
sirlordti had installed in vmware 4.501:17
sirlordtthe problems is only in kubuntu ubuntu i had intalled another distros Suse 9.3 Red hat and the problems not found01:18
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c0rrupt_kubuntu is t3h buggy01:19
sirlordtall distros installed in vmware and hardware config equals01:19
web250how so?01:19
c0rrupt_mine is buggy as hell01:19
c0rrupt_like wow01:19
c0rrupt_people new to linux would run back to windows01:20
c0rrupt_:\01:20
web250whats buggy exactly?01:20
c0rrupt_everything but gaim?01:20
jbasiliosirlordt: is your ntpdate running?  (/etc/init.d/ntpdate restart)01:20
web250what kernel are you running?01:20
c0rrupt_the one it ships with01:20
web250also, what version of kde01:20
jbasilioi'm having SUCH a good time with the stable kubuntu it's making me ill.  i've been running mandrake for so long i thought everything had to be on the edge01:21
c0rrupt_4.301:21
web250i hope you mean 3.4?01:21
sirlordtnot i not running ntp01:21
c0rrupt_3.4 yea01:21
c0rrupt_lol01:21
jbasilioget 3.4.2 .. so much better01:21
c0rrupt_really?01:21
jbasilioyou are right .. 3.4 not stable01:21
c0rrupt_okay01:21
c0rrupt_becuse01:21
c0rrupt_kicker crashes01:21
web250ok...by adding a repository you can run 3.4.2 for kde....what cpu u running?01:21
c0rrupt_all the time01:21
sirlordtjbasilio not i not running ntp01:21
c0rrupt_konqueror01:21
c0rrupt_crashes like mad01:21
jbasilioa lot crashed for me on 3.4.  just closing windows would crash stuff01:21
c0rrupt_kaffine is a joke01:21
c0rrupt_tea01:21
sirlordtweb250 2.6.10-501:21
c0rrupt_yea01:21
c0rrupt_so just apt-get it?01:22
jbasiliowell, 3.4.2 is a lot better.  can't promise it'll fix everything, but i can't recall a crash since i installed it01:22
c0rrupt_can i just apt-get it?01:22
jbasiliodeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main01:22
jbasilioput that line in your sources.list01:22
c0rrupt_right01:22
web250sirlordt: what is your cpu?01:23
sirlordtAthlon XP 180001:23
jbasilioit _should_ grab everything.  although i did have stragglers i seemed to have to reinstall.01:23
web250ok...you can install the K7 kernel01:23
web250its built to run with ur cpu01:23
web250open up synaptic/kynaptic01:23
web250search for "linux"01:23
c0rrupt_what is the exact name of the kde 3.4.2 package01:24
web250you need the k7 image, k7 linux file, and the k7 headers01:24
jbasiliothere's a k7 kernel?? ooooOOoo!01:24
sirlordtapt-cache search linux-image ???01:24
web250c0rrupt: kdebase01:24
web250thats the main part01:24
web250but you'll need to update others too... search for KDE in synaptic, makes it easier01:24
c0rrupt_meh01:24
c0rrupt_erp01:24
c0rrupt_ah01:24
c0rrupt_ok01:24
c0rrupt_i prefer console01:24
c0rrupt_synaptic is also very buggy01:24
c0rrupt_:-\01:25
web250you could do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade01:25
c0rrupt_true01:25
jbasilioi (heart) synaptic .. :)01:25
frank_c0rrupt_: synaptic is buggy? I haven't seen that yet01:25
web250jbasilio: me too01:25
c0rrupt_how can i upgrade just 1 package01:25
jbasiliocoming from a .rpm world with mandrake tools, you guys don't understand how kick a$$ debian is01:25
c0rrupt_the searching01:25
c0rrupt_crashes on it01:25
c0rrupt_sometimes..01:25
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web250c0rrupt_: manually....what i just told you will update everything, it cant hurt01:25
jbasilioi use it all the time .. never an issue.  are you talking synaptic or kynaptic?01:25
web250synaptic01:26
jbasiliohuh.  yous gots issues.  :)01:26
c0rrupt_wtffffffff01:26
c0rrupt_3.4.2 isnt even there01:26
jbasiliowhat's the advantage of the k7 kernel?  stability?  performance?  b/c i'd hate to disrupt nvidia drivers etc for 3% performance gain.01:26
jbasiliodid you add the repository and due apt-get update?01:27
jbasilios/due/do01:27
frank_c0rrupt_: did you update? what architecture?01:27
crimsunk7 vs. what?01:27
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c0rrupt_yes01:27
c0rrupt_updated01:27
c0rrupt_apt-get update01:27
web250jbasilio: it wont touch your drivers...its a simple install. It has support for more than 900mb ram, and it will be faster01:27
c0rrupt_as root01:27
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jbasiliocall me a tard.  i have k7 installed already .. due to the beauty of the installer's brains.  forget it!01:27
c0rrupt_hmm01:27
c0rrupt_may have found the problem01:27
frank_web250: I didn't know 386 stopped at 900 MBs of RAM01:27
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c0rrupt_there was 2 crashed applications running full cpy01:28
c0rrupt_cpu*01:28
jbasiliothat's make you feel some pain01:28
jbasilioman i can't type today01:28
sirlordtweb250 jbasilio i get the linux-image-k701:28
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web250frank_: it does...thats why its often important to upgrade your kernel if you have 1gb01:28
web250sirlordt: yes01:29
jbasiliosirlordt: for me the installer already selected it ... do a uname -a and see if you have it already01:29
lluka:'(01:29
jbasilioi have 1.5GB ram .. works great.01:29
jbasiliono special config setup01:29
c0rrupt_-upgrading01:29
llukai should have bought an nvidia card01:29
lluka:'(01:29
sirlordt2.6.10-5 but not about k7 architecture01:30
jbasiliokubuntu has made my computer whole again.  :)  i can compile KDE, run mp3s, run 3 copies of X for 3 seperate logins .. and not have a damn bit of slowdown01:30
frank_web250: about the actual performance, isn't 386 compiled with 586 optimization, so the actual performance difference is due to 586->k7 differences?01:30
web250sirlordt: for k7 you want the 2.6.10-5-k701:30
web250frank_: not sure about that one. the fact is that it is EXTREMELY easy to install the k7 kernel...all that you have to do after install is to reboot, select the new kernel from grub...and then later, uninstall the old kernel (if you want to)01:31
sirlordtweb250 the list of installed packages must show me the this?01:31
frank_jbasilio: why do you have 3 separate logins to X at the same time?01:31
frank_web250: I know I switched kernels already01:31
jbasiliofrank_: 1 for me.  1 for my wife.  1 for my kde developer account so i don't screw myself up01:31
web250sirlordt: if you use synaptic it will01:31
web250frank_:ohhhh cool01:31
sirlordtii  linux-image-2. 2.6.10-34.3    Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on 38601:32
sirlordtii  linux-image-2. 2.6.11-0.2     Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on PPr01:32
sirlordtii  linux-image-38 2.6.10-7       Linux kernel image on 386.01:32
jbasiliofrank_: only taking 3MB of swap too.  with kde compiling, firefox, 3 kde's .. crazy.  2.6 kernel rules01:32
sirlordtweb250 ups sorry ....01:32
jbasiliogoing afk for awhile.  dinner time.01:32
web250sirlordt: none of those are it....any more listed?01:33
frank_jbasilio: with 1.5GB of RAM, you would really have to try to get it to use swap! I have a 1GB and rarely use more than half01:33
c0rrupt_alsa can only send sound to one program at a time?01:34
sirlordtweb250 i used "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"   ??? any more to filter??01:34
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web250that should be it01:34
web250ok...its the 2.6.10-7 version01:35
web250you need: linux-headers-k701:35
sirlordtweb250 where find the men for ksinactyc??01:36
web250linux-image-k701:36
web250?? ksinactyc?01:36
kinfoNo match for "ksinactyc?"01:36
web250and linux-k701:36
web250those three files01:36
Sarg3uff01:37
sirlordtweb250 yes sorry ksinactyc 01:37
Sarg3how can i login as root in a kubuntu just installed?01:37
Sarg3when i take the user pwd01:37
Sarg3is incorrect01:37
web250sirlordt: i have no idea what that is tbh01:37
redguy!tell Sarg3 about root01:37
sirlordtSarg3 "sudo passwd root" this command active the root user acccount01:38
Sarg3mhmh01:38
Sarg3ok, tnks01:38
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sirlordtweb250 i get linux-image-2.6.11-1-k7 this the package no???01:41
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thoreauputicsirlordt: do *not* use 2.6.11 - it is broken01:42
web250ya...go for 2.6.10-7-k701:42
web250thats what im using, no problems01:42
thoreauputicsirlordt: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)01:43
thoreauputicfor headers01:43
web250thoreauputic: dont you think the average user would have an easier time doing this through synaptic/kynaptic...all the correct headers/image/kernel are there01:44
thoreauputicweb250: that command ensures that the headers will match the running kernel01:44
thoreauputicweb250: but in general, sure01:44
sirlordtweb250  thoreauputic but the linux headers is for develop?? i not developer i only the user 01:45
thoreauputicsirlordt: well, you only need the linux-image probably01:45
thoreauputicsirlordt: unless you are installing drivers that need the headers etc01:46
web250thoreauputic: ok, like for me i have linux-image-2.6.10.34-3 and same version headers...but my linux-k7 package says 2.6.10-7 is that a problem?01:46
sirlordtthoreauputic "dpkg -l |  grep headers" the output is empty and my machine work well01:47
sirlordtthoreauputic ok 01:47
thoreauputicsirlordt: sure - no problem then - I thought from looking above that you needed headers, but you don't01:47
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thoreauputicweb250: apt-cache show linux-k7 "This package will always depend on the latest complete Linux kernel available01:50
thoreauputic for AMD Duron/Athlon."01:50
sirlordtthoreauputic ;) thanks01:50
thoreauputicweb250: in other words it's a metapackage01:51
web250Filename: pool/restricted/l/linux-meta/linux-k7_2.6.10-7_i386.deb01:51
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web250everything is 2.6.10-7...why does it say i386 though?01:53
web250whatever...everything works like i want it to...cant wait for my tv tuner to come so i can linux that :) heheh01:54
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hater2winanybody know what http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1387?_nevow_carryover_=1123545508.91127.0.0.10.58108939400601:59
hater2winthat means01:59
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claydohhater2win: dunno, but that deco is from 2003, maybe it needs some tweaks for newer kde?02:07
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hater2wini cant figure a damn thing out about how to get a deco isntalled or anything02:08
hater2winsigh02:08
hater2winive tried many02:08
hater2wincant get any02:08
aseigohater2win: are you passing --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` to ./configure?02:09
aseigokwin/workspace.h <-- you need to install the kdebase-dev package02:09
llukaok nothing i do will get 3d accelleration werking with my ati card02:09
lluka:/02:09
hater2winaseigo: ill install that and see what happenes02:09
aseigokwin is in kdebase. window decos need to link against kwin's client lib. so.. you need that =)02:10
claydohI have that installed, get a diff error02:10
claydohconfigdialog.cpp:106: error: `spacer7' undeclared (first use this function)02:10
claydohmake[3] : *** [configdialog.lo]  Error 102:10
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aseigoclaydoh: sounds like a mismatch between the .ui file and the code02:11
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claydohoooh I may knoe how to fix that one, if I find it02:12
c0rrupt_installed kde 3.4.2....02:12
c0rrupt_actually, its been working great so far02:12
c0rrupt_:)02:12
c0rrupt_no crashes -yet-02:12
c0rrupt_;\02:13
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hater2winstill getting errors02:14
claydohditto02:14
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c0rrupt_errors on what02:17
llukaum02:18
llukaglxgears doesnt werk02:18
lluka:(02:18
hater2winhttp://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1388?_nevow_carryover_=1123546691.58127.0.0.10.7621433235402:18
llukacan someone please help me with my vid card02:18
lluka:/02:18
c0rrupt_what kind of vid card..02:19
c0rrupt_j/w02:19
llukaradeon 9200se02:19
llukaati card02:19
hater2winson of a rock lobster.... im about ready to give up02:20
c0rrupt_;\02:21
hater2wini dont know why, but wtf, am i doomed to a funny looking desktop or something02:21
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claydohon newer distros02:22
claydohhttp://195.220.108.108/linux/RPM/mandrake/10.2/i586/media/contrib/kwin-style-knifty-0.4.2-1mdk.i586.html02:22
claydohso i see anewer source :)02:22
hater2winhmm02:23
claydohif I can find the srpm :)02:23
claydohor rather the spec file from one02:24
supernixHiya gang02:25
supernixit is me again :D02:25
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supernixJust curious does anyone else have a HP printer that has those built in SD card readers ?02:25
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hater2winnot me02:27
Rogue_Jedi_XA quick question: Where's history in konqueror?02:28
gnajarHow can I format CD-RW in Kubuntu? after that can I have drag&drop like in WinXP?02:30
Rogue_Jedi_XUse K3b02:30
gnajarI tryed k3b, yet it has only format option for DVD+RW, not for CD-RW :(02:31
Rogue_Jedi_XIt's under Tools and then CD02:31
Rogue_Jedi_XIt has to have one02:31
gnajarI'll check now02:31
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claydohhater2win: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=884102:32
claydohlook in the obvious place last, that smy motto :)02:32
gnajarIn CD options it ha no option to format a CD-RW; in DVD options, it has one :(02:33
gnajarI'm using version 0.11.2302:33
redguyRogue_Jedi_X: hmm, it took a while to find it. It's in the navigation panel (F9 to display it). Don't know the shortcut to get to history directly though02:33
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hater2winclaydoh: lol02:35
hater2winso does it work now?02:35
claydohwell it compiled :)02:35
hater2wintried it yet?02:35
claydohinstalling now02:35
Rogue_Jedi_XThanks redguy02:35
gnajaralo?02:36
claydohit better look nice :)02:36
hater2winlol02:36
hater2winlooked nice in the picture02:36
hater2winbut thats what i said when i bought that nasty ass mongolian beef dinner at the store the other day02:36
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claydohhmm sounds tasty02:37
claydohinstalls and looks nice :)02:38
hater2winwtf02:38
hater2windidnt install for me02:38
claydoh./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`  then the usual make and sudo make install02:38
hater2winerr, let me try that02:39
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supernixJust curious does anyone else have a HP printer that has those built in SD card readers ?02:39
hater2winnot me02:40
hater2winsupernix: not me02:40
hater2winlol02:40
claydohhater2win: do a "make clean" first02:40
hater2wini did a make clean02:40
hater2winwhen i do02:40
claydoh:)02:40
hater2winsudo make install02:40
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hater2wini get02:40
hater2winmake[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.02:40
Rogue_Jedi_XJust out of curiosity, how many of you prefer having the windows title in the middle of the title bar instead of the left?02:40
supernixRogue_Jedi_X: I do02:41
claydohI don't really care about that02:41
Rogue_Jedi_XJust curious. I myself prefer having it to the left02:41
claydohhater2win: ya, its already built some of the bits02:41
claydohthats not really an error02:42
hater2winooo02:42
hater2wini see i see02:42
hater2winit worked02:42
hater2winnice...02:42
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claydohnot bad looking02:42
hater2winnot at all02:42
hater2winso do i need to use ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` for everything?02:42
hater2winor when do i know when to use it02:43
Rogue_Jedi_XPretty much02:43
lluka>_<02:43
aseigohater2win: whenver you install a kde app, yep02:43
llukathis is not werking02:43
aseigoo_O02:43
lluka:'(02:43
aseigo>:-P02:43
aseigoyour emotifu is good, but fear my dragon fist punch!02:43
aseigo==========D02:43
aseigooh wait. 02:44
llukano 02:44
aseigohaha.. that looks wrong02:44
llukaaseigo thats a cock02:44
lluka>_<02:44
aseigovery, very wrong02:44
hater2winLOL02:44
hater2winbash02:44
claydohhater2win: I sue that for the most part all the time, it just sets the prefix to whatever KDE is set to02:44
claydohtho one or 2 things didn't like it can't remember which02:45
|rockinnerd|pr0n in an irc window.. wow02:45
Rogue_Jedi_XHuh?02:45
|rockinnerd|aseigo ==========D  aseigo oh wait. lluka no  aseigo haha.. that looks wrong  lluka aseigo thats a cock02:46
lluka:P02:46
llukaim really confused with this ati fglrx driver :(02:46
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Rogue_Jedi_XI shouldn't have asked02:46
_kbytehola a todos02:46
hater2winclaydoh: i really appreciate your help, thanks alot02:47
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llukafirst, it thinks its a pci card and its not, second fglrx dont work, 3rd glxgears dont werk02:47
claydohanytime hater2win :)02:47
hater2winlol, i can move on with my learning now02:48
hater2winnow that i dont have a crazy ass GUI02:48
hater2winwell, now that i can fix it, heh02:48
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Rogue_Jedi_XI tried the High Performance Liquid theme yesterday. Very nice...until you switch to fullscreen in Kaffeine. Then you get an annoying bar at the top of the screen02:49
hater2winomg02:53
hater2winthis is so awesome02:53
hater2winclaydoh: id buy you a very nice dinner if i could02:53
hater2winlol02:53
hater2winsome mongolian beef perhaps? LOL!02:53
claydohlol @ hater2win as long as its not, er recycled02:54
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hater2winlol02:54
hater2winhave you seen the family guy movie yet?02:54
aseigois it even out?02:54
claydohno02:54
Rogue_Jedi_XThere's a Family Guy Movie?02:54
hater2winlol, yes02:54
claydohheck I haven't even seen the show02:54
hater2winits not supposed to come out for another 2 months02:54
hater2winbut i "rented it in advance"02:54
hater2wini saw a very long clip of it02:55
TestMADyea..ok02:55
Rogue_Jedi_XWhat's the title or is that it?02:55
llukayes02:55
llukathat movie RAWKS02:55
llukaomg its so hilarious02:55
hater2winlol, it does02:55
hater2winits freakin hilarious02:55
hater2winRogue_Jedi_X: Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story02:55
hater2winyou could probably find it at the bay where pirates convene02:56
Rogue_Jedi_XThanks, hater2win. Will keep an eye out02:56
hater2wingotta see it, its hilarious02:56
hater2wineither way lluka02:56
llukaits not hard to get02:56
llukadownloads fast with bittorrent02:56
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llukai used windows to get it02:57
hater2wini was asking because remember when brian eats rupert's leg? and stewie says "Give it back!02:57
hater2winbrian: oh, you'll get it back02:57
hater2winoh man... i about died02:57
claydohlol02:59
Rogue_Jedi_XWonder when the Full Metal Alchemist movie comes out02:59
hater2winlol03:00
claydohhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2664403:08
claydohnot bad for a dark theme03:08
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hater2winooo03:10
hater2wintrue true03:10
hater2wincheck these out03:10
hater2winthese are really nice03:10
hater2winhttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1233003:10
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claydohyeah, I played around with those when I used Lycoris03:11
claydohwas a pain to compile and package there03:11
hater2winlol03:12
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hater2winwhen i try and isntall that one03:21
hater2wini do ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix'03:21
hater2winand it just goes to the next line and has03:21
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hater2win>03:21
hater2winwith the cursor there03:22
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hater2winclaydoh: any ideas?03:24
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Riddellhater2win: replace the end '  with `03:27
Riddellapostrophy '   backtick `03:28
Riddelldon't mix03:28
claydohtry typing it manually, there may be an extra space or character in there03:28
hater2winhmm ok03:28
claydohor what Riddell sed :)03:28
hater2winlol03:29
hater2winnice03:29
hater2winthat was awesome that he noticed that03:29
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EasterSunshinesry, ppl in kde are idles, anyone know how to get a separate tab for each open file in kate?03:33
seth_kclick the documents tab on the side03:34
seth_kyou'll see all your open files there03:34
EasterSunshineoh thx, i had disabled sidebar03:35
EasterSunshineawesome, this'll make things much quickers and easier03:36
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llukaanyone ever seen this error? (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.03:55
lluka(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work03:55
lluka?03:55
hater2wincan i install programs to /etc/?03:55
EasterSunshinehater2win: you can, you'll need root permissions, and you would need to add it to your path, but why would you want to install to /etc/03:56
hater2winis it a wise idea to isntall it there?03:56
hater2winlike03:56
hater2winetc/firefox03:56
EasterSunshinenot when you can install to /usr/bin, or /usr/local/bin03:57
EasterSunshinei think /etc is primarily for configuration files03:57
hater2winhmm03:57
hater2wingot it03:57
hater2winthanks03:57
EasterSunshineand i don't really know the different between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, what is the default directory provided by the instaler? best install there03:57
hater2winbah the default dir is like the folder i extracted the tar to03:58
hater2winlol03:58
EasterSunshineyou can install there, no problem, just inconvenient, i guess03:59
hater2winvery03:59
EasterSunshinelook in your /usr and /usr/local folders, maybe you can even do /usr/local/firefox03:59
EasterSunshineif i remember correctly, thats where i had it03:59
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hater2winhmm04:02
hater2winrm -fr04:06
hater2winthats remove folder and files04:06
hater2winright?04:06
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EasterSunshine-f is force which is unsafe, and -r recursively deletes stuff under folders04:08
hater2wini have a folder existing called mozilla-firefox04:09
hater2winwith profiles folder in it04:09
hater2winand i want to get rid of it04:09
hater2winclean isntall04:09
hater2winso how would i go about doing that04:09
hater2winsudo rm -......04:09
EasterSunshineyou sound like you know more about rm than i do, and i don't want to give you bad advice04:09
hater2winlol04:10
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hater2wini just started using linux 3 days ago =/04:10
hater2winso i dunno04:10
hater2winlol04:10
hater2wini mean, i know what rm does04:10
hater2winbut...04:10
hater2winlol04:10
EasterSunshine`man rm` will give you the options for rm, and -fr sounds fine to me04:10
EasterSunshinei started linux in third grade a couple of months ago, you seem to have learned a lot more than i did in three days04:11
hater2winlol04:12
hater2winpl04:12
hater2winok*04:12
hater2winthanks for the help =)04:12
EasterSunshineugh i feel so bad, i referred you to the man pages...thats like saying "rtfm"04:13
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hater2winlol04:14
hater2winyeah it is, but thankfully, i haven't been told that yet04:14
hater2winheh04:14
hater2winand i understand you are new to it as well04:14
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paxwhat's up with freenode?04:20
EasterSunshine[22:22:12]  [263]  LIST Server load is temporarily too heavy.04:22
EasterSunshinetoo many ppl on server i guess04:23
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benjamin1254im still having issues with my pc dvd player people ne ideas on how to fix it? it wont read ut ye i can access all the data on the dvds04:34
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benjamin1254i was wonderinjg what lib file do i have to install to read my dvds?04:41
Jeezisbenjamin1254: do you have a dvd decoder?04:42
benjamin1254yes04:42
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benjamin1254for win32 programs04:42
Jeezislibdvdcss2 or something like that04:42
Jeezisis a linux one04:42
Jeezisyou'll have to enable universe and multiverse repositories04:42
Jeezisand you should find it then04:42
benjamin1254how?04:43
benjamin1254i tried entering it in apt-get and i got this output error04:43
benjamin1254benjamin1254@linux:~$ sudo apt-get install libdvdcss204:43
benjamin1254Reading package lists... Done04:43
benjamin1254Building dependency tree... Done04:43
benjamin1254Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:43
benjamin1254This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:43
benjamin1254is only available from another source04:43
benjamin1254E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate04:43
Jeezislemme find you the link to a beginner script04:43
benjamin1254k04:43
Jeezishttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264604:44
Jeezisthat should give you everything you need, plus some other neato stuff04:44
Jeezisjust follow the instructions04:44
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benjamin1254Thank you so much i entered the script and its downloading the things04:46
Jeezisno problem man, next time you have a question you might just want to go on www.ubuntuforums.org and search first, there is loads of info04:47
benjamin1254jeezis do u have a messenger?04:48
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hater2winalright ive been trying to fic this for hours now04:58
hater2wini have firefox04:58
hater2winnow04:58
hater2winwhen i click a link here in Konversation, it will open up by default in firefox. but in gaim, it opens in konq. i went to the kde config and set the def to firefox, what should i do?>04:59
EasterSunshinelook in the gaim preferences05:00
EasterSunshineunder browser, put firefox %s in the manual entry box05:00
hater2winnothing there05:00
hater2winoh05:00
EasterSunshinei think it'll start a new firefox process05:01
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hater2winnice05:02
hater2winit worked05:02
hater2winthanks man05:02
hater2wini mounted my HDs and set them as icons on my desktop, how do I change the font face of the icons on the desktop?05:04
EasterSunshineopen up kcontrol, go under look'n'feel to fonts05:05
EasterSunshineat the bottom is a setting for desktop05:05
EasterSunshineyou can open kcontrol outside a shell by finding control center in the kde menu05:06
EasterSunshine(replace look 'n' feel with appearence & themes)05:06
EasterSunshinetoo used to madrakelinux05:06
hater2winheh05:07
hater2winman05:07
hater2wini hate that like05:08
hater2wini dunno05:08
hater2winthe font looks bold05:08
hater2wineven if you have a refular font type05:08
EasterSunshinedid you get what you wanted?05:08
hater2winnot really, how do i change the color of it/05:09
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hater2wini mean, i did but i didn't...05:09
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paxhey seth_k 05:11
seth_khi pax05:12
paxdid you write your wp theme yourself? :)05:12
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seth_kit's the Kubrick default with colour changes, but yeah I did05:15
paxit's more than color hack, looks neat05:17
seth_kthanks :) it took me awhile, yeah it's more than color changes but I'm hesitant to say "I made it" since then people yell and scream that it's Kubrick05:17
paxhehe I wouldn't say that if you decide to release, I'll gladly use it :c)05:19
seth_khehe05:20
seth_ki prefer to be unique ;)05:20
seth_kit's the colors of my uni05:20
paxlovely05:21
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ubuntuhow do i change my screen resolution in kubuntu?05:48
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skalpelhow do i mount another linux partition if i get this error? root@ppp-70-250-173-46:/home/ubuntu # mount /dev/hda105:50
skalpelmount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab05:50
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ztonzyskalpel: hey, I must leave shortly, but most of your answers are here, probably:  http://ubuntuguide.org/05:53
ztonzygood luck, bye...05:54
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ilba7rI am still learning to wirte desktop entries in gnome. Could not find a manual for it. Anyway I set the script and my program run in a terminal. Anyone know what to put in the terminaloptions to prevent the terminal from shutting down?06:25
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nmorseAnyone get "Error: Could not write to socket: No space left on device" errors when trying to FTP large files between computers?06:33
ilba7rnever nmorse and i transfered large files06:34
nmorseWhat FTP daemon do you use?06:35
ilba7ri used proftp and vsftp06:36
nmorseThanks.06:36
ilba7ri preferered the later though06:36
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_tiagohi can some one tell me where i find that package in kde to change themes?06:43
ilba7r_tiago its in the kde control center 06:44
_tiagoi cant find it :S06:44
_tiagoafter i installed ubuntu's gnome packages over kubuntu i tink it vanished or was moved06:44
pax_tiago: in console type: kcontrol06:45
_tiagothanx pax thats what i was looking for, but im wondering why it was moved from the k menu?06:46
pax_tiago: if it's not there add it manualy, type: kmenuedit06:47
_tiagothanx06:48
paxnp06:48
_tiagoits all sweet now06:50
pax_tiago: if you upgraded to KDE 3.4.2 that would explain why it vanished from kmenu06:50
_tiagoyeah thats what i did yesterday06:50
_tiagowhere does it go after upgrading?06:50
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_tiagoi have been in windows all day and only noticed now :S06:51
paxit's 'proly a bug, many people complained about it.06:51
_tiagois there any others you know of besides that one?06:52
paxany others what?06:52
_tiagobugs06:53
_tiagosimilar inconviniences to the one i just experianced06:53
paxcheck here http://bugs.kde.org/06:54
_tiagodo you know if the latest current version of kde suports window decoration themes with transparant png's? similar to windows vista?06:55
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pax_tiago: http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=1396906:56
_tiagothats what im using now :)06:56
_tiagobut its not exactly what im after06:57
_tiagoit shows the background threw the window boarders, but not the windows behind it06:57
paxoh I see, haven't seen anything like that yet.06:58
paxhttp://ninux.net/files/foo <- pax's desktop06:58
_tiagokde has the potential for some of the greatest eye candy06:58
paxno doubt, wait for kde4+plasma :D06:59
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_tiagopritty07:00
paxty07:00
_tiagoi would show my xp and vista desktops... but i dont want people to get jelous and flame07:01
_tiagolol07:01
_tiagoi need a good site for kicker background images07:01
_tiagoi have to say vista has borrowed so much visual bliss from kde07:02
_tiagoand os x07:02
_tiagodoes any one know if kde 4 will have its own drop shadow suport or will it still need buggy xorg?07:03
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barneywhat's the text editor that comes with kubuntu?08:05
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lexhiderbarney: what kind of text do you want to edit?08:07
barneya .conf file08:09
lexhiderprobably kate is what you are after.08:10
lexhiderus unix/linux geeks normally use vim or possibly emacs08:10
lexhiderif you are looking for MS word replacement, then openoffice or possibly kword08:10
barneywell, the problem is that i messed up the display settings in the xorg.conf file so now i don't have the gui to use. :(08:12
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ilba7ris there a bug in kopete in which it do not use the spell checker08:14
lexhidervim if you know how to use it, or nano might be a better bet if you haven't.08:14
barneythanks. i just tried vim, and it's a little too tricky for me. nano seemed to do the trick. we'll see if i get my gui back now.08:17
barneythanks.08:17
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barneyanyone in here using kubuntu ppc?08:19
lexhiderkind of, I installed a copy on an old ibook I bought for my mum.08:20
barneyoh, cool.08:21
barneyso did you have any problems with the display resolution?08:21
lexhiderfrom memory I think it was 800x600? I assumed that was all that ibook (g3 ~300mhz?) could do.08:23
barneyyeah, that's probably true.08:23
barneyi installed ubuntu a while back on my imac g3 233mhz08:23
barneythe best resolution i get offered is 514x7something.08:24
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barneyi fixed it by changing the horizontal depth from 60-60 to just 60.08:24
supernixHi08:25
barneynow i installed kubuntu, and now it's the same problem. only this time setting it to 60 didn't fix it.08:25
supernixanyone here good with HP printers ?08:25
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barneygot any ideas on how to fix it? 08:26
lexhiderscreen resolution?08:27
barneyyeah, my screen resolution is 512x38408:28
lexhiderno idea, maybe ask in #ubuntu, outside of gnome/kde stuff, ubuntu & kubuntu are exactly the same. daniels is the xorg guy, he may have some ideas.08:29
barneyoh, cool. thanks for the tip!08:30
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arminHi, can somebody please help me configure my sound (new to linux)08:40
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edvardashello08:40
seth_khi armin, edvardas, what's up?08:41
arminI dont think linux can detect my sound card, is there somewhere i can get drivers for my soundcard? (my comp is a pre-assembled MEDION PC)08:42
edvardasseth_k: could you help with one problem? :}08:42
edvardasi've got an error while compiling: In the profix you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. Tjis will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix08:43
arminif you can't help me, just a quick question. I would like my PC to boot into windows automatically after the GRUB boot screen08:45
seth_kedvardas: you will need "sudo aptitude install kdelibs-dev"08:46
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seth_karmin, you will need "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" and change the default boot number from 0 to whatever number your windows is08:47
seth_karmin, what sound card do you have?08:48
edvardasthnx seth_k08:48
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arminthank you, just a moment, i'll check what my soundcard is in windows08:56
mons0onarmin: can't you find out in linux?08:56
mons0onkde has a device list from the PCI bus etc08:57
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arminwhenever i try anything with sound it always says things like no info on soundcard and nothing can be loaded on KMix09:01
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edvardasi've a problem, when i start any app it just give an error that KDEInit couldn't load it ... what to do?09:04
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KmorphHello09:17
KmorphI'm running from a debian box and wanted to upgrade to kubuntu without having to through formating and etc. Anyone with an idea09:18
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arminhi, i found out my sound card is a C-Media 9880L09:31
armindo u know if there's a driver for it for windows?09:31
arminlinux*09:31
armina driver for windows, it works fine in windows09:32
armindriver for linux09:32
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PieDarmin: the driver may be provided with linux09:37
PieDIt looks like the driver is provided with kubuntu09:38
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arminI went to the driver website, found CMI9880/L for Linux, it says something about ALSA 1.0.8 ... which it says Kubuntu has but the sound doesnt work...09:45
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seaLnearmin: have you run kmix? maybe the output is just muted?10:03
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seaLnearmin: or did when you started kde get an error about no sound?10:04
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pussfeller/sbin/lsmod show it loaded?10:08
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hans_does anyone know where cedega installs the games to?10:53
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nxv_is kweather applet working correctly? when i try to configure i get an empty screen. i red in a froum to manually edit  ~/.kde/share/config/weather_panelappletrc. didn't get it to run. the station description i have from yahoo11:06
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boerjeslmy konquerer crashes rather frequently... especially if I'm using many softwares at the same time and I try to view files with konquerer...11:09
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buzmhh is there a way to use kpdf to print from the command line?11:14
buzit sucks having to open a whole dir of pdfs by hand11:14
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ilba7rwhy do you need kpdf to print. kpdf is used to view not print11:17
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boerjeslI've been trying to install a finnish dictionary (soikkeli) for openoffice, but I don't seem to be able to find the right directory or something else goes wrong.11:18
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benjamin1254u could do it via apt-get11:18
boerjeslsoikkeli?11:18
benjamin1254yes11:18
buzilba7r: cause i want to filter stuff through kde filters11:19
buzbut kprinter seems to work for that11:19
boerjeslsudo apt-get soikkeli doesn't work11:19
ilba7ri was just going to post the kprinter to you11:19
ilba7rok good luck then 11:19
boerjeslor do i need a new repository?11:19
benjamin1254let me try11:19
benjamin1254i think u do need a new 111:19
buznow see if *pdf does something useful ;)11:19
buzi think the content menu in konqi shoukld have a print item, really11:20
benjamin1254i tried it too and ur rght it aint there11:21
ilba7rboerjesl it is not in DicOOo11:21
ilba7r?11:21
boerjeslwhat's that?11:21
benjamin1254soikkeli11:22
ilba7rits a macro to install dictionaries for open office11:22
benjamin1254o11:22
benjamin1254ok11:22
ilba7ropen office uses myspell11:22
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boerjeslokay, I got the tar.gz off a cd and I have isntall instructions, but this is what happens:11:23
boerjeslmikko@ubuntu:~/soikko-oo11-linux-0.2.1$ sudo make install OODIR=/usr/lib/openoff                                                            ice/11:23
boerjeslChecking install directories11:23
boerjeslInstalling OpenOffice modules11:23
boerjeslcp libspellfi645li.so /usr/lib/openoffice//program11:23
boerjeslLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/openoffice//program /usr/lib/openoffice//program/regcom                                                            p -register \11:23
boerjesl        -r /usr/lib/openoffice//program/services.rdb -c libspellfi645li.so11:23
boerjeslregister component 'libspellfi645li.so' in registry '/usr/lib/openoffice//progra                                                            m/services.rdb' failed!11:23
boerjeslerror (CannotRegisterImplementationException): loading component library failed:                                                             libspellfi645li.so11:23
boerjeslmake: *** [install]  Error 111:23
fromozeboerjesl: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com <--- 11:25
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boerjeslhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/33277711:27
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nxv_has anybody kweaterapplet running?11:32
ilba7ryap11:33
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m0o-configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH12:42
m0o-See `config.log' for more details.12:42
m0o-wtf is this12:42
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hussamI rebuilt kaffeine 0.7 for hoary using source from Breezy, but it still crashes like kaffeine 0.6 . Anybody knows of a solution or patch to stop the crash?12:44
loasapt-get install build-essential12:44
hussamloas: that message wasn't for me, right?12:45
loasfor m0o- 12:45
hussamoh ok12:45
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hussammaybe I should ask about kaffeine in #kde12:49
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_kenis this the right place to ask newbie questions ???????????12:51
jpatrickyes12:51
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_kencan I ask one now12:52
ChousukeYou did :P12:52
ChousukeSo one more doesn't hurt.12:52
_kenok.... if i get the kubuntu DVD will that allow me to update to firefox in kubuntu ?????????/12:53
Chousukeuh?12:53
_kenas i have slow 33k modem12:53
ChousukeAh, hmm.12:54
_kenit takes too long over the net] 12:54
Chousuke_ken: do you have access to a Ubuntu computer with broadband to do your downloading with?12:54
_kenno12:54
ChousukeHmm.12:54
Chousuketroublesome. I don't think that the DVDs are updated with the newest security patches.12:55
ChousukeIt's a bit problematic to use computers without a broadband net connection nowadays :P12:56
m0o-so, anything more i need to apt to make my box cooler?12:56
_kencan i update from mandrake 10.112:56
jpatrickno12:56
jpatrickI think12:56
m0o-*** A new enough version of pkg-config was not found.12:58
m0o-*** See http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/12:58
m0o-configure: error: "Cannot find glib"12:58
m0o-werd12:58
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m0o-why there's so many errors12:58
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nikkiayou know what apt needs? it needs a way to say 'generate a list of files you want, but don't actually get them'12:59
m0o-lol12:59
_kenthank you for your help "chousuke " 12:59
nikkiathat way, all these people that complain they can't dl on their computer because its too slow, could take the list somewhere with fast internet, and grab the files, then bring them back to apt12:59
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gshi01:00
gssomeone know if kubuntu has qtparted on livecd?01:00
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hussamhey guys, I wanted to rebuild kaffeine 0.7 from breezy source on hoary, but it still crashes like kaffeine 0.6. any one knows how I can patch the source to stop the crash?01:11
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Raptoidselamlar01:15
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danybody here running breezy?01:35
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hettarI'm waiting for it to be a little more stable before giving it a try01:37
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Kamping_Kaiseri am using it01:38
hans_does anyone know where cedega installs the games to?01:42
Kamping_Kaiser~/.transgaming01:42
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hussamfrom command line how to I search a folder and it's subfolder for files containing a certain word/text ?02:11
MrPokehussam: you could use find...02:11
MrPokehussam: find <folder to search> | grep -i "search string"02:12
buzthat is weird02:12
buzwhat appears to be a perfectly normal mail (with sane content) crashes thunderbird02:12
nikkiagrep -ir word *02:12
buzbut works in squirrelmail, for one02:12
hussamcan I batch replace the text in the files with another text?02:14
hussamI found a lot of results02:15
nikkiaMrPoke: the problem with using find to do recursive searches, is that by default it isn't going to print which file it was found in, which kind of makes it pointless, you can add -print to find, but then you get the filename of every file searched02:15
nikkiahussam, yes, but its not easy, you need to learn sed02:15
MrPokenikkia: oops I was blind, I did not even see that he was looking for a file "containing" a string 02:16
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seaLnehmm you don't seem to be able to login to X (in breezy atleast) if your shell is tcsh03:04
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seaLneRiddell: ping03:06
RiddellseaLne: hi03:06
seaLneshould system settings allow me to add my second monitor or is dual head no xinerama need to e done manually03:06
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seaLnei just installed breezy on my work desktop03:07
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RiddellseaLne: what have you used before?03:08
RiddellseaLne: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12079 "after selecting tcsh as default shell - can't start session"03:09
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Riddellinvestigation of that is awaiting being able to compile kdebase (awaiting xmkmf)03:09
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seaLneRiddell: before in sid i just edited the XF86Config-4 manually i presume dual is unusual enough to not be setup by default03:10
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RiddellseaLne: there's a guidance configuration tool for that in the works but it's not ready yet I'm afraid (and there's no working packages)03:11
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seaLneRiddell: np just wondering if there was some new toy to play with instead of editing the file03:12
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RiddellseaLne: I'll get you to be our tester when there is :)03:13
seaLneheh03:13
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nikkiachrists sake, i hate NTL03:14
seaLnehmm how do people survive with only one head this is frustrating03:14
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tevalHow can I change the gtk theme that shows up in KDE?03:17
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sirlordthello to all03:20
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duende_anyone know how to remove an ignore on a user  in konversation?04:13
EasterSunshineSettings -> Configure Konveration -> ignored nicknames under behavior04:15
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EasterSunshineteval: kcontrol center -> gtk themes under appearance & themes04:15
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EasterSunshineteval: if gtk styles and fonts insn't there, you may have not installed kubuntu precompiled gtk, in which case, you may have to04:21
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EasterSunshineduende_: just to let you know, i have answered your question three lines above04:22
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stianhHey04:51
|rockinnerd|hey04:51
jpatrickhey hey hey04:51
stianh:P04:51
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stianhany suggestions for what to look for to get my gnome apps to look a little kde-ish?04:51
stianhi.e. have same fontsize and a bit similar widget stuff04:52
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EasterSunshinestianh: look into gtk themes, maybe?04:52
EasterSunshinestianh: or install kde ;)04:52
|rockinnerd|one would think that k3b would put cdrao in it's dependencies for apt...04:54
stianhlol, I have kde, and I guess I knew I was looking for a gtk theme, but one that has magical abilities to guess what to look like so that it works with the current kde theme :)04:54
nikkiastianh: there is a gtk engine that uses qt04:55
nikkiai've forgotten its package name offhand tho04:55
stianhokay, I'll have a look see04:55
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CavalierBobstiah: the package you are looking for is gtk2-engines-gtk-qt04:57
slow-motionhello04:57
jpatrickhi04:57
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stianhCavalierBob: Yeah thanks, just figured that out :)04:58
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slow-motionare there some special apt sources for kubuntu?05:01
slow-motioni have main, universe, multivers and hoary-extras05:02
jpatrickhttp://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php05:02
jpatrickI have that one^^05:03
slow-motionyes that i have too05:03
slow-motionso with the i have mentioned, i have all available?05:04
jpatrickyes05:04
slow-motiongood05:04
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slow-motionone point more for kubuntu05:05
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jpatrickapo!05:05
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apokryphoshey05:05
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nikkiaafternoon apokryphos05:06
apokryphosJust finished clearing out my room; what a dreaded excercise. Removing all old school stuff; sure hope I won't need them again 8)05:07
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apokryphossudden urge to maybe try out LookingGlass out again; I wonder how it's been progressin'05:08
nikkiagah, i hate that!05:08
apokryphosnikkia: you tried it out?05:08
nikkiai just spent 5 minutes trying to get my ipod to work, only to realise it was locked :P05:09
nikkiaapokryphos: erm, dunno05:09
apokryphoshehe05:09
apokryphosnikkia: amaroK is pretty good with iPods :P05:09
nikkiaapokryphos: no its not05:09
nikkiaapokryphos: remember, *AAC FILES*05:09
apokryphoshas worked perfectly for us here05:09
apokryphosnow why would you want them? 8)05:10
nikkiaapokryphos: i dunno, perhaps the higher quality and lower battery consumption ?05:10
slow-motionhmm it shall be possible to run kubuntu on ipods too05:10
apokryphosnikkia: must be your musical ears. MP3s give perfect output to my ears; and battery consumption isn't much of an issue05:11
|rockinnerd|get a dell dj or a creative mp3 player05:11
|rockinnerd|unless you plan on installing gtkpod for your ipod05:11
|rockinnerd|photo ipods dont work iirc05:11
nikkia|rockinnerd|: jebus christ, those are the two worst possible suggestions ever, ok, ok you COULD have suggested a sony/aiwa player, that'd have been worse...05:11
|rockinnerd|in gtkpod05:11
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apokryphosnikkia: what you using to do it?05:14
nikkiaapokryphos: do what?05:14
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apokryphosnikkia: your iPod05:15
nikkiaapokryphos: gtkpod05:15
apokryphosoh05:15
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nikkiaapokryphos: btw, i had a good chuckle last night05:16
nikkiaapokryphos: remember when netsol changed every in the name of 'security'05:16
nikkiaand even insisted on *mail*ing the new username/password combinations in 2 seperate mail drops ?05:16
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apokryphosno :|, but do go on05:17
nikkiaapokryphos: i went to renew my domain last night, and figured i'd update all my contact info, without knowing the username or password, within an hour, i'd completely re-registered the domain at a seperate name, address and billing method05:17
nikkiaso much for security05:17
nikkiaif i'd somehow hijacked email for the domain, i could have hijacked the domain just as easily05:17
apokryphosAck. That's a serious issue :|. Have most of my domains now with GoDaddy05:18
buznikkia: what registrar05:18
nikkiabuz, netsol05:18
buzgodaddy for me as well05:18
buzlol05:18
buznetsol is one of the most vile companies on the net05:19
nikkiaie veritas, iirc05:19
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buznot veritas05:19
apokryphosIt's good for managing quite a few; has all the customizations I want, so it's good.05:19
buzverisign05:19
nikkiabuz, i registered the domain when it was the only choice05:19
nikkiathat's the one05:19
buzwhich are scumbags05:19
douglasIs there any way to set up kubuntu so that it will detect which monitor is hooked up at startup and configure it so that if I use a monitor besides the one I set it up with it doesn't just switch to 640x480?05:19
nikkiabuz, the domain registration date is in 199505:19
buzwell i since transferred away all of them05:19
buzmuch cheaper too05:19
nikkiabuz, i've had bad experience with godaddy, and don't know enough about the others to risk it05:19
hyperactivecronddouglas, poke around in contol center05:19
buzi doubt it could possibly get worse than with netsol05:19
buz(well except for the germans who are suing me)05:20
douglasI'll look.05:20
apokryphosdouglas: you'll have to alter your xorg.conf file everytime; or sudo dpkg-reconfigure each time05:20
apokryphossudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, that is.05:20
nikkiabuz, they changed the prices retroactively, they pulled DNS away from the hosting provider twice, etc05:20
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buzthey can talk to my lawyer if they try any of that05:20
douglasreally?, that blows05:20
nikkiabuz, they also attempted a hosting hijack scam05:21
buzbut i know people that have literally hundreds of domains with them05:21
buzno issues so far05:21
nikkiabuz, ie, 'your domain name is at risk if you do not fill out the enclosed form and return it to godaddy' (the form was signing up for some partnered hosting package)05:21
buzillegal05:21
nikkiabuz, yes, very05:21
nikkiabuz, and they got in trouble for it at the time (around 2002)05:21
buzand worth a posting to slashdot05:22
nikkiabuz, it was, when it happened05:22
buzmhh didnt read it i think05:22
buzso far, i've been ok with them05:22
nikkiathey also pulled the same scam on my netsol domain05:22
nikkiaor tried to, even05:22
buzwell netsol will even send you spam so 05:22
nikkiabuz, spam i can deal with, illegal bait and switch tactics to pull domains from netsol, or steal hosting, no05:22
nikkiaas i said, bad experience, you're free to stay with them, but me? i'll never use them again05:23
buzas for me, netsol=never again05:23
nikkiaapart from the hassle of the security switch, i've had no problems with netsol05:23
nikkiapreferred when they were internic, but thats life05:23
buzno they were a monopoly of the worst sort05:24
buzkind05:24
apokryphoswhy does /whois not show how long some people have been idle for? :|05:25
apokryphosThis must be new; never noticed it before.05:25
nikkiathe new version of this ircd isn't much of an 'up'grade, IMO05:26
apokryphosThat's really quite annoying; that's something I use.05:26
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jjessei get an idle for a whois for myself but not anyone else05:28
apokryphosjjesse: so far it's the same for me05:28
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MezWANTED: very brave user with Ubuntu hoary who doesnt mind reinstalling05:44
buzfor what05:44
PieDMez: sudo rm -fr / ?05:44
Meznvm ,we have someone05:45
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web250if I go and buy a new keyboard and mouse (possibly wireless), will hotplug take care of it no problem?05:48
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seaLneweb250: if it is usb i wuldn't imagine it should cause many problems05:54
web250seaLne: so just power down, plug it in and reboot?05:54
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seaLneyou might be better to check what Xorg is using first05:54
hyperactivecrondno reboot tho05:54
seaLneweb250: what kind of mouse and kbd do you have just now?05:55
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web250seaLne: M$ multimedia keyboard, and m$ intellimouse optical (both ps/2 wired). i need new kybrd and mouse for college, going shoppin today05:55
seaLneweb250: you will need to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf a bit for X to realise05:57
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seaLneweb250: i don't know about usb keyboards but for the mouse you need to change "Device" to "/dev/input/mice"05:58
web250seaLne: in which way, i know ill have to change the mouse settings, right now its set for my mouse nad 7 buttons, etc...05:58
nikkiaseaLne: there isn't a location for the keyboard by default05:58
seaLneweb250: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll down to the "Configured Mouse" section05:59
web250Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"05:59
seaLnenikkia: you sure? otherwise X wouldn't work without the keyboard defined05:59
nikkiaseaLne: it uses the system keyboard06:00
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nikkiaseaLne: which is already an amalgamation of all keyboards connected06:00
seaLnenikkia: ah you are suggesting you don't need to change it? are you?06:00
nikkiaseaLne: there's nothing to change06:00
web250Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"06:00
seaLnerather than it not being defined, k06:00
web250whoops06:00
nikkiaseaLne: the default Xorg config for the keyboard is just the layout, and the driver 'kbd', no device path06:00
web250Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"06:00
web250 <---will i have to change that06:00
nikkiaseaLne: there is probably a way to force it to use a specific keyboard, but that's not the default behaviour06:01
seaLneweb250: yeah "ImPS/2" is a scrollwheel06:01
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nikkiaweb250: you might, or you might not06:01
nikkiaweb250: most mice these days are explorerPS/2 protocol06:01
web250nikkia: good to know06:01
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znhhmm my amarok crashes on startup06:19
znhKCrash: Application 'amarokapp' crashing...06:20
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znhI've already tried to delete .kde/apps/amarok directory, resulted with the same :-/06:20
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M0s3hello06:36
jpatrickhi06:37
M0s3where can i find my all system icons?06:37
uniq /usr/share/icons06:38
uniqmost of them are located there.06:38
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M0s3thnx, found them :}06:39
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nikkiahmmm06:42
nikkiaanyone know how to get xine to play a dvd from a directory ?06:42
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morbidihello, does kubuntu uses a differnte kernel from ubuntu ?06:43
PieDno06:44
morbididamn06:45
nikkiaah, nm, worked it out06:45
morbidimy mouse doesn't work in ubuntu 06:45
morbididoes ubuntu has a sweet way of changing the kernel ?06:45
jpatrickno06:46
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nikkiai never knew that!06:53
nikkia'Music By/Musical Producer:  Brian May' for Mad Max06:53
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wincidehello all , i dont have modconf in my sources .. does exist some like that in (k)ubuntu??07:10
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kheyhello everyone07:21
kheywould anyone be willing to help me out with a problem with my system?07:22
jjessewhats going on khey?07:22
kheywell i just installed and i have no sound07:23
jjesseeven when you try to test the sound in kcontrol center?07:25
kheyyea07:25
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EasterSunshinekhey: i had that problem with audigy2, open up kmix and play around with all the sliders and leds in all the tabs07:30
kheyeaster: i have quite a bit and i'm not getting not sure whats wrong my sound is integrated not a seperate sound card but my other computer is the same way and i got sound working on that07:32
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_bjornHi. I got some problem with characterset in Konquerer. On this page som characters are  displayed as open squares. Why?  http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gemnscipe_Ingang07:41
thoreauputic_bjorn: I just get a heading and "(There is currently no text in this page)"07:43
_bjornthoreauputi: Funny. How about this?  http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Innung07:45
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dgibbhas anyone here succeeded at installing baghira on kubuntu? I'm having trouble.07:47
dgibbIt installs fine, but doesn't show up in the control center. Anyone have any ideas? I've tried both the package and installing with the source code.07:48
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thoreauputic_bjorn: shows fine in firefox - trying konq now: BTW if you don't tab-complete my nick I won't see your posts- I have a beep on so my nick alerts me07:51
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jjessei had no issues in konq07:52
dgibbI've seen screenshots with ubuntu and baghira, so I know it can be done....07:52
dgibbhas anyone here got it to work, at least?07:53
_bjornthoreauputic: Shows fine in firefox here too. I think KDE is the problem07:53
thoreauputic_bjorn: shows fine in konqueror here07:53
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_bjornthoreauputic: No open square in the green headline reading : Frgninga? G t m orpes Wiellan07:56
_bjornthoreauputic: I even got the aquare in Konversation07:56
thoreauputicno square here07:57
supernixHi07:57
_bjornthoreauputic: OK thanks07:57
supernixanyone know how to mount a mass storage USB device ?07:57
thoreauputic_bjorn: sounds like you aren't using utf-8 ? I think utf-8 is my default here07:58
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dgibbso... no-one's using baghira?08:00
jpatrickI used to08:00
dgibbjpatrick: did it work fine for you?08:00
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jpatrickyes08:00
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dgibbjpatrick: when I installed it (both with the package and with the source) it didn't show up in the control center's theme manager. Any idea why?08:01
dgibbvery frustrating...08:02
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jpatrickbecause I did: apt-get install kwin-baghira08:03
dgibbjpatrick: and did the theme show up in the theme manager for you?08:03
jpatrickyes08:04
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dgibbAnd you didn't need to do any voodoo?08:04
jpatrickvoodoo?08:04
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dgibbhandwaving, mysterious magicks, forbidden arts, etc...08:05
jpatrickIt is not in the theme manager08:05
dgibbit's not?08:05
jpatrickit's under Style and Window Decorations08:06
kheyanyone able to help with kubuntu?08:06
dgibbjpatrick: well, I feel stupid08:07
dgibbjpatrick: why did you stop using it?08:07
paxkhey: just ask, somone may answer08:07
jpatrickIt's too grey08:08
kheywell i just installed kubuntu and i have no sound at all08:08
jpatrickI might start again soon08:08
dgibbfair enough08:08
jpatrickThat happens on most computer08:08
jpatrickdgibb: like now08:08
jpatrickcomputers*08:09
paxhttp://ninux.net/files/foo to see baghira hard at work (well it's sucks)08:09
dgibbpax: and what do you use?08:10
jpatrickkhey: the problem I have with audio is that the kernel doesn't see my sound card08:10
paxdgibb: I use kde with baghira, whatcha mean08:10
dgibbdoes anyone know when the kde ruby bindings will be included in ubuntu?08:10
dgibbpax: never mind, I misunderstood08:10
kheyany suggestions jpatrick08:11
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jpatrickdo you know how to compile a kernel?08:11
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jpatrickif not wait 'til breezy comes out of beta. :p08:12
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jpatrickCos my sound card works on breezy but not hoary08:13
hyperactivecrondi'm customizing the kubuntu livecd and i get to The extraction process, step 3 and i get the errors listed @ http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/107008:14
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jpatrickhyper.. whatever :P : why not try being root?08:15
hyperactivecrondhmm..08:16
hyperactivecrondhuh.. i tried sudo-ing and it didnt work but i sudo su ed and ran it and it worked!08:16
jpatrickyay!08:17
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jpatrick:)08:17
hyperactivecrondjpatrick, try lsmod under breezy then load the sound module in hoary08:18
jpatrickthe problem that I had in breezy was that I had no Net access08:18
hyperactivecrondfuck08:20
hyperactivecrond!08:20
ubotuhyperactivecrond: I give up, what is it?08:20
jpatrick:X08:20
hyperactivecrondmy md5sum for the kubuntu livecd's wrong08:20
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jpatrick:o08:21
jpatrickhow do I copy the module?08:25
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slow-motionbye08:27
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hyperactivecrondjpatrick, you shouldn't have to copy it08:28
hyperactivecrondit should be there in hoary08:28
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jpatrickit isn't08:29
jpatrickI think...08:29
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] -[2[] 2Anybody got any really god ideas why I can't get kubuntu to install cleanly?  I'm getting circular dependencies and packages just not configuring?08:57
] -[2[] 2Even stuff on the 5.04 install disc falls apart..08:57
] -[2[] 2umm....  Back in the days when I USED to IRC.... "C" stood for "chat"....  Why is nobody "chatting"?08:59
jpatrick:p08:59
] -[2[] 2clever...09:00
jpatrickwhat's the real problem - what does it say?09:00
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] -[2[] 2hang on a sec... getting the screens switched... doing this on a KVM09:01
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] -[2[] 2..and I quote:09:03
] -[2[] 2dpkg:  error processing libxv1 (--configure):09:03
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jpatrickare you installing it?09:04
] -[2[] 2subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 209:04
] -[2[] 2Errors were encountered while processing:09:04
] -[2[] 2libxv109:04
] -[2[] 2Apparently the package update after the reboot wants to... yes.09:05
jpatrickit should work fine09:05
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] -[2[] 2yeah...  That's what I was under the impression of....  But this is install attempt 2 now with the same sort of thing.09:06
] -[2[] 2Last time first sign of trouble was kadressbook.  09:07
] -[2[] 2pacakage errors...09:07
] -[2[] 2so it kicked me out to Aptitude, and then I went to try and finish the post-install configs.09:08
] -[2[] 2then it was the great dependency chase again.09:08
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Raptoidselamlar..09:10
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] -[2[] 2yeah... backatcha//09:11
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|Greven|i'm having trouble installing some libs to get my creative zen micro working09:18
|Greven|dpkg: regarding libc6_2.3.5-3_i386.deb containing libc6:09:18
|Greven| libc6 conflicts with initrd-tools (<< 0.1.79)09:18
|Greven|  initrd-tools (version 0.1.77ubuntu3) is installed.09:18
|Greven|dpkg: error processing libc6_2.3.5-3_i386.deb (--install):09:18
|Greven| conflicting packages - not installing libc609:18
|Greven|Errors were encountered while processing:09:18
|Greven| libc6_2.3.5-3_i386.deb09:18
gdhYou're installing Debian libc6 on Kubuntu?09:19
gdhgood luck :)09:19
] -[2[] 2Deja-vu..09:19
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|Greven|:\09:20
] -[2[] 2|Greven| -->   Hey... at least you're intalling something.09:20
|Greven|lol09:21
|Greven|don't make fun, i'm a total starter09:21
] -[2[] 2Sounds as if something is really hinkey with some of the libraries.09:21
] -[2[] 2I'm not with LINUX.... But I am with Kubuntu...09:21
] -[2[] 2I'm getting the same sort of gripes with a complete base install.09:22
|Greven|:\09:22
] -[2[] 2Are you actually trying to install a Debian package on a Kubuntu machine?09:22
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|Greven|trying to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html09:23
] -[2[] 2I've seen the same kind of troubles installing Mandrake RPMs on a Fedora machine... Different minds put different things in different places.09:23
seaLnebut more importantly incompatible libraries09:24
] -[2[] 2There ya go..09:24
] -[2[] 2|G| -->  hmm... this is probably not what you'd like to hear, but because they're messing around with some of the C libraries in the distribution, maybe you might just want to sit on this for a day or two..09:25
] -[2[] 2I'm considering the same thing for myself.09:25
] -[2[] 2Wait and see if that is the root (pun intended) of the issue.09:26
seaLne|Greven|: i think you are more likely to break everything rather actually get that to work :-/09:26
] -[2[] 2seaLne has a point....09:26
] -[2[] 2Bodging stuff together sometimes works....09:27
] -[2[] 2but what happens when you have to un-bodge it.09:27
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|Greven|lol09:28
|Greven|seaLne: i think that's right unfortunately09:28
] -[2[] 2K...  I'm gone...  09:29
] -[2[] 2TTFN09:29
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wincidedo someone know how to mount this partition ? 09:29
wincidep/dev/hda3            4837        4862      208845   88  Linux plaintext09:29
seaLne|Greven|: what you could try tho is to get the source version of the deb and try compiling it on kubuntu, then you would have the right libraries09:29
wincidei havent found anything about :\09:29
seaLnewincide: what was that from that you pasted?09:30
wincideseaLne: its a line from sudo fdisk -l09:31
wincide-l =  -L minus09:31
seaLnejust the p at the start and "plaintext" was making me wonder09:31
wincideme too 09:32
seaLnethat is actually what it outputt?09:32
wincidethats a partition from intervideo instant on.. a minikernel just to play video without using an OS09:33
wincidei wanted to upgrade that to play mp3 and divx 09:33
wincidebut i can't mount09:33
wincidebecause i don't know the filesystem09:33
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seaLnenot sure if you would be able to?09:34
wincidei've tried but nothing at all09:35
jpatrickwhat?09:35
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nikkiayay, i crashed gimp!09:44
jpatricko.O09:45
nikkiajpatrick: clearly the 'align layers' code in 2.3 is part of the code that makes 2.3 'beta' :P09:45
wincidehi jpatrick :)09:46
jpatrickoh09:46
nikkiaall i was doing was trying to align two buttons in a UI prototype :)09:47
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Tm_TKhi ho10:05
jpatrickhi10:06
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fatejudgerhas anyone had trouble playing windows media files through Kaffeine?10:08
fatejudgerI've tried googling it10:08
fatejudgerand I don't get any information on it10:08
fatejudgerI'm thinking it's a localized problem10:08
fatejudgerin just Ubuntu/Kubuntu10:08
fatejudgeranyone?10:09
seaLnehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5185810:10
frank_fatejudger: what is the problem? kaffeine crashing?10:12
fatejudgerno10:12
fatejudgerit says some dll isn't working10:12
fatejudgerwmvdmod.dll10:12
fatejudgerit didn't work before I upgraded to the newest version of KDE either10:12
nikkiafatejudger: not on amd64 are you ?10:12
fatejudgerno10:13
frank_fatejudger: you need w32codecs10:13
fatejudgerthose aren't built in already?10:13
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frank_fatejudger: no10:13
Jet2k5hello anyone alive?10:13
nikkiafatejudger: no, they're legally questionable, thus restricted10:13
Jet2k5how do I remove kde from Ubuntu, my friend didn't like KDE :\10:13
fatejudgerUbuntu uses Gnome10:13
seaLneyou could have other window managers10:13
seaLnenot just one10:14
Jet2k5yeah I installed it for him on a Ubuntu system10:14
Jet2k5he wanted something easier than the gnome desktop10:14
nikkiajet, just set the default login session type back to gnome10:14
Jet2k5so I installed kde and now he wants to remove it10:14
Jet2k5nikkia: I know, he wants to remove kde from his system10:14
nikkiaand possibly do dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:14
Jet2k5I've tried but removing everything that says KDE isn't the best idea, borked a lot of stuff10:14
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Jet2k5I tried getting rid of Kubuntu-desktop but that doesn't take any packageswith it10:16
gdhJet: apt-get remove kdelibs410:17
Tm_TK=)10:17
gdhthat will pull the rug from under every KDE app10:17
Tm_TKbah, see ya kids ->10:17
Jet2k5will all of them go with it?10:17
gdhkdelibs4 is to KDE what libc6 is to Linux :)10:17
Jet2k5sorry I'm new dont know what that would bean but I think I have an idea :P10:18
gdhit's the core of KDE - everything uses kdelibs4 - try the command and see what it will remove...10:18
gdhyou can always say 'no' when it asks10:18
Jet2k5gdh: jack pot :)10:18
Jet2k5all of the packages :)10:18
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Aapzakpeople10:30
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Qalimasthis probably isnt the right channel to ask this in, but will kubuntu 3.4.2 kde packages work on debian sarge?10:45
teprrrperhaps, perhaps not, I wouldn't try...10:47
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web250anyone have any experience with the microsoft wired 500 keyboard?10:54
seaLnenope, sorry10:54
seaLneso thats what you bought then?10:55
web250ya...and a wireless mouse10:55
web250the mouse works no problem10:55
web250but the keyboard (which is standard ps/2, wired) isnt detected10:55
seaLneobvious question: its not plugged into the mouse port is it?10:56
web250lol, no10:56
seaLnedoes the bios detect it?10:56
web250ya, the keyboard blinks when bios posts10:56
seaLneand it was a ps/2 kbd you had before wasn't it?10:56
web250ya (usb to ps/2 converter10:57
seaLnehave you tried it on another machine just to make sure it isn't dead some how?10:57
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web250nope...i doubt its dead10:58
seaLneyou never know, but yeah unlikely10:58
web250my xorg driver says: Driver "keyboard"10:58
web250option "CoreKeyboard"10:58
web250pc104, us10:58
seaLnecan you use the kbd to go into the bios just to check it is working fine?10:58
web250h/o two mins...ill throw it on my brothers pc10:59
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seaLneweb250: once you know it definitly works it dosen't feel so bad to spend time trying to get it to work :)11:00
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web250seaLne: doesnt work on my bros xp box11:04
web250num lock sticks...no bios response11:04
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seaLneweb250: :(11:06
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web250seaLne: doesnt work on my backup windows box either...its DOA i guess, back to compusa with this one11:09
seaLneweb250: i'm not sure what i could have suggested to get it working if it was confirmed good keyboards just normally work :-/11:10
web250seaLne: ya i know, thats why i was so shocked11:12
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nikkiaits too hot to be using gimp tonight11:17
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buzmhh around here it's been cold for weeks now11:27
buzshitty summer11:27
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seaLneHiya11:29
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nikkiabuz, they keep saying friday will be the hottest day 'evah!'11:32
buzaround here its predicted to be a lousy 2411:32
nikkiaits a little disturbing that they don't qualify that with 'in england' or anything, i'm fearing 150C temps :P11:32
nikkiaeven 'since records were started' would be a nice qualifier, since 'evah!' probably includes the 'covered with magma' phase of the planet's life11:33
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StRHi all11:37
nikkiawth?11:37
nikkiawhy have the N= prefixes become n= all of a sudden ??!?11:37
buzmhh there has been no magma phase of course. god created the earth 6000 years ago, dont you know?11:38
nikkiagah, i wish freenode would just revert back to irc standard and stop solving a problem that doesn't exist11:38
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buzJuuuust kidding11:41
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