[02:10] <zul> heylo
[03:02] <zul> hey jeff
[03:02] <jbailey> Heya Chuck
[03:02] <zul> how is it going?
[03:02] <jbailey> Good, tired.
[03:02] <Mithrandir> hi Jeff.
[03:02] <jbailey> You?
[03:02] <jbailey> Heya Tollef. =)
[03:03] <zul> ok i guess, im on hold with lame ass tech support peopel
[03:09] <jbailey> Mithrandir: What's the best way to ask for more stuff to be added to ia32-libs? =)
[03:09] <Mithrandir> jbailey: nag me, usually.
[03:09] <jbailey> Or should packages be generally producing -i386 versions?
[03:09] <Mithrandir> it depends.  It's less painful for me that way. :-)
[03:11] <jbailey> Do you want ia32-libs to go away like amd64-libs will?
[03:11] <Mithrandir> it would be nice to see it go, yes.
[03:11] <Mithrandir> preferably by having multiarch
[03:19] <Mithrandir> jbailey: once I get out of this ooo2-amd64 mess, should I help you out with earlyuserspace or are you doing fine still?
[03:20] <jbailey> Mithrandir: Help would be lovely in a few areas, but aside from that it's going.
[03:20] <jbailey> I passed out last night, so didn't ask infinity to do the kernel bump
[03:26] <jbailey> Mithrandir: My current challenge if you have a thought on it is how to get the major/minor from an inode with a minimum of hackery.
[03:33] <lamont> jbailey: stat(2) is the normal way. :-)
[03:33] <jbailey> lamont: Right, but busybox shell doesn't offer that.
[03:34] <lamont> set -- $(ls -l foo)
[03:36] <jbailey> Mmm, or feed it to read,  for that effort.
[03:38] <Mithrandir> or just a minimal stat(1) implementation?
[03:38] <jbailey> Mithrandir: Yeah.  I could put that right into busybox
[03:39] <Mithrandir> yup
[03:40] <lamont> echo "123" | read x
[03:40] <lamont> -mix 622: echo $x
[03:40] <lamont> -mix 623: 
[03:40] <lamont> that's why I don't pipe to read.. :-)
[03:46] <jbailey> Oh, hmm.  Modern busybox has stat.
[03:47] <jbailey> Just not the versions in breezy.
[03:56] <lamont> sounds like a sync-request.. :)
[04:02] <jbailey> The version isn't in debian yet.  Just checking with the d-i folks to make sure I won't break them.
[07:05] <zul> bleah...
[08:25] <mdz> jbailey: parsing ls output is evil
[08:25] <jbailey> mdz: Yup.  I have a busybox now with stat in it.
[08:26] <mdz> oh good
[08:26] <jbailey> Bah.
[09:35] <dilinger> speaking of sparc..
[09:35] <dilinger> would canonical be interested in hosting my sunfire 280 to use as an ubuntu/debian sparc buildd?
[09:35] <dilinger> i've offered it to debian, but they're having problems finding hosting..
[10:02] <jbailey> dilinger: Aren't the sunfire 280's *big*?
[10:02] <jbailey> Sounds like the type of beast that would be more expensive to ship and pay for in the datacentre than to buy a collection of the blades.
[10:07] <dilinger> jbailey: 80lb
[10:07] <dilinger> s
[10:07] <dilinger> about 3U
[10:07] <dilinger> maybe 4U
[10:07] <dilinger> not sure
[10:07] <dilinger> it's more that they're just loud and hot
[10:08] <dilinger> which is why i don't want to run it in my apt :)
[10:09] <jbailey> I need a drill to get cords into that room
[10:09] <jbailey> But if qemu can do a decent speed emulating.
[10:10] <jbailey> Even a 5 to 1 speed hit could be a 600mhz sparc box on my amd64. =)