[03:26] <Kader_Turko> hi?
[03:26] <Kader_Turko> =)
[03:26] <ajmitch> hello, this channel is just used for meetings :)
[03:27] <ajmitch> question, support, etc are in #ubuntu
[03:28] <Kader_Turko> ow, thnxz =)
[01:27] <LondonAndrew1> rehi
[01:27] <LondonAndrew1> losing my connection every 20 minutes at the moment. Argh
[01:31] <Seveas> ouch
[01:46] <JaneW> ***Reminder*** Edubuntu Update Meeting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[01:59] <JaneW> hi
[01:59] <LondonAndrew1> hi
[01:59] <JaneW> :)
[02:00] <ogra> hi
[02:00] <JaneW> ok is anyone here for the edubuntu meeting?
[02:00] <LondonAndrew1> *hands up*
[02:00] <JaneW> LondonAndrew1: good, just like our logo ;)
[02:00] <JaneW> p.s. are you really drewling? ;)
[02:00] <ogra> it couls be that i have to run out for a minute or two.... the baker is arriving soon here to bring my bread....
[02:01] <JaneW> ogra: lol - OK
[02:01] <JaneW> your village sounds very quaint
[02:01] <ogra> dont laugh.... its 20km to the next baker... and my GF is gone for 2 weeks 
[02:02] <JaneW> ok, ogra the main focus for the first part of the meeting is where we are with the development...
[02:02] <LondonAndrew1> 2 weeks, will you survive?
[02:02] <JaneW> (shame, poor thing!)
[02:02] <ogra> hehe.... i guess so :)
[02:02] <JaneW> (not being totally sarcastic btw)
[02:02] <ogra> ok, do we start with the meeting ? 
[02:02] <JaneW> anyway without the development all the other stuff is irrelevant
[02:03] <JaneW> mdz was not happy with progress
[02:03] <JaneW> in our last meeting
[02:03] <JaneW> have things improved?
[02:03] <ogra> i updated the http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuOneDotZeroRoadmap 
[02:03] <ogra> to relflect what has been done now...
[02:03] <JaneW> note to all our feature freeze is tomorrow (11 Aug)
[02:03] <JaneW> opening...
[02:04] <JaneW> btw is there an agreed deadline time?
[02:04] <ogra> i just shrunk the main inclusion reports page ....
[02:04] <JaneW> how far are the reports now?
[02:04] <ogra> since it talked about binarys, not source packages... looks way better now
[02:04] <JaneW> it sounds like corey has been really helpful with those...
[02:05] <ogra> its just a matter of time to complete the rest.... i'll make it tomorrow shortly before the deadline... it includes all dependencys now, so there shouldnt be any surprises
[02:05] <ogra> yes, corey was very helpful
[02:07] <ogra> my biggest prob this week was to make tzhe mediawiki packages "right" to not have to have two versions of php or two SQL servers installed... we have a mediawiki package that can do php5 and postgresql... (which are the two tools we use for all other stuff too)
[02:08] <ogra> (its unique in the linux world like this....)
[02:08] <JaneW> is media wiki ok now?
[02:09] <ogra> not completely... but i'll upload the package today... bugfixing will have to go on
[02:09] <ogra> but thats ok with the policy... the most important fact is to have a package ready before tomorrow
[02:09] <ogra> and not to add new features
[02:10] <JaneW> ok, the main includion reports - do you need more help, or are they taken care of?
[02:10] <ogra> so even if they are broken... they must be there
[02:10] <JaneW> ok...
[02:10] <ogra> i think corey is a bit busy with real life... i can need any help i can get
[02:10] <JaneW> do you still have issues with pitti? You siad it was up to him to approve some stuff?
[02:10] <ogra> but worst i'll do them alone... the list is really small now
[02:11] <JaneW> can anyone else help ogra with main inclusion reports? Please.
[02:11] <ogra> yes, gcompris will be the base for a discussion... i'm sure
[02:11] <ogra> but thats a thing between pitti any myself...
[02:11] <JaneW> ogra: since that's a high priority item, when will we know if it's approved or not?
[02:11] <ogra> and a matter of how many pizza i send him to ignore stuff *g*
[02:12] <JaneW> send lots!
[02:12] <ogra> if pitti has the time to look at it
[02:12] <JaneW> hmmm, how likely is that?
[02:12] <ogra> its out of our hands once the reports are finished
[02:12] <JaneW> he's prolly swamped with loads of requests atm...
[02:12] <ogra> since he is the one to approve
[02:13] <JaneW> ok, how can we get the reports finished asap?
[02:13] <ogra> most of them he will just wave through....
[02:13] <JaneW> that seems to be in the critical path right now
[02:13] <JaneW> I hope you are right
[02:13] <ogra> as i said, i'll do them tomorrow... i dont see it critical
[02:13] <JaneW> you sure?
[02:13] <ogra> since the inclusion wont happen tomorrow... and pitti has no time either....
[02:14] <JaneW> matt is far less relaxed about this deadline that you are ;)
[02:14] <ogra> its a ting that may happen during the next week
[02:14] <ogra> yes, but what should i do ? i wont speed up the process now....
[02:15] <ogra> we had no chance to test or work on the CD until last week...
[02:16] <ogra> the reports will be ready tomorrow... more i cant do...
[02:16] <JaneW> ok
[02:16] <JaneW> is that x problem fixed yet?
[02:17] <ogra> JaneW, imagine that i have to do other distro work thats unrelated to edubuntu or goals... thta underlies the freeze too
[02:17] <ogra> nope
[02:17] <ogra> not in a state that we'll have a installable ltsp yet
[02:17] <JaneW> ogra: I do understand that, I really do
[02:17] <ogra> some dependencys are missing... daniels told me we'll have a new upload soon
[02:18] <ogra> so with luck that X problem is fixed tomorrow...
[02:18] <ogra> (with luck... i gave up to predict X fixing dates)
[02:18] <JaneW> ogra: but matt is anxious to see some concrete progress, and I think if we weren't bound to delivery on this, he may have been tempted to defer
[02:18] <JaneW> ogra: ;)
[02:19] <JaneW> mhz: :))
[02:19] <JaneW> ogra: I understand ow you must feel *I* feel like I have been hit by a bus myself....
[02:19] <ogra> yes, he should calm down... we'll have it done for preview with a whole month of testing..... breezy bugs will be fixed in breezy anyway... 
[02:20] <JaneW> ogra: ok I'm gonna trust you that you that it will all resolve in the end...
[02:20] <ogra> so the stuff to do once its ready will be a fairly small amount of changes...
[02:20] <JaneW> besides getting anxious doesn't help anyway
[02:21] <ogra> ok... i have one seed change proposal mdz would have to approve....
[02:21] <ogra> (lets do some real business... )
[02:21] <JaneW> ok
[02:21] <ogra> audacity was included as a sound sample editor... it has a dependency on wxgtk2.4  
[02:22] <JaneW> ok
[02:22] <ogra> we dont like to support the 2.4 version of this library
[02:22] <ogra> and 2.6 is already out...
[02:22] <ogra> but audacity cant work with 2.4
[02:22] <JaneW> you mean without?
[02:23] <ogra> so my proposal is to replace audacity with gnusound
[02:23] <ogra> err, nope, i meant 2.6, but similar ;)
[02:23] <JaneW> ok, does it make much difference?
[02:23] <JaneW> using gnusound?
[02:23] <ogra> nope... just that all dependencys for gnusound are already in main... its trivial
[02:24] <JaneW> ok, do you anticipate any objection from mdz?
[02:24] <ogra> he didnt like the idea of sound editing at all
[02:24] <ogra> but beyond that... nope
[02:25] <JaneW> lol
[02:25] <JaneW> ok
[02:25] <JaneW> I
[02:25] <JaneW> ll send him a mail...
[02:26] <ogra> great :)
[02:26] <ogra> if he wants us to drop it completely i'd be fine too.... sound in ltsp is still an issue...
[02:26] <ogra> so it would be interesting only for the workstation install, except mdz solves the sound issues...
[02:27] <ogra> which is unlikely to happen in breezy time
[02:27] <JaneW> I'll let you know how he responds
[02:27] <ogra> or put me on cc
[02:27] <JaneW> ok the issues we had last time
[02:28] <JaneW> mediwiki, gcompris, x, classroom tool
[02:28] <JaneW> where are we on each
[02:28] <JaneW> mediawiki fixed, but need sto be approved?
[02:28] <JaneW> gcompris need pitti to approve?
[02:28] <ogra> and the package isnt completed yet... it'll be ready tonight
[02:29] <ogra> mediawiki^^
[02:29] <Kamion> X should be fixed at next cron.daily, with the exception of amd64
[02:29] <ogra> gcompris installable...
[02:29] <ogra> X as i said above.... 
[02:29] <ogra> and as Kamion says
[02:29] <Kamion> I'm keeping an eye on it and hurrying through as much as I can
[02:29] <ogra> classroom tool is running out of time, but i'll make sure we'll have it in universe
[02:31] <ogra> for the classroom tool i had no chance to test it in a real ltsp setup until last weekend... there are issues where dont know if they can be solved easily...
[02:31] <JaneW> Kamion: great thanks
[02:33] <ogra> but i preferred to finish mediawiki first and the ltsp testing is quite time consuming... additionally it blockas all my HW i have around, so i cant do anything else during atest
[02:33] <JaneW> ogra: what does that mean there'll be no classroom tool in the standard install?
[02:34] <ogra> yup
[02:34] <JaneW> erk...
[02:34] <ogra> time was to short for real tests
[02:34] <JaneW> is there nothing we can get in there quickly?
[02:34] <JaneW> does tuXlabs use something?
[02:34] <ogra> nothing that works with our implementation of ltap
[02:35] <ogra> might be, but likely they modify files you shouldnt modify ... their scripts are quite intrusive
[02:35] <JaneW> damn, this is not wonderful news, I imagine this is quite high on the list of required (or at least desired) tools
[02:36] <ogra> the guadalinex tool juan promised me 3 times was never sent... but the put in on gnomefiles.org two weeks ago... its written in gambas which we wont have in main
[02:36] <Kamion> GAMBAS?
[02:36] <ogra> lets see what i can do... but it doesnt work at all currently...
[02:36] <ogra> Kamion, yes :(
[02:36] <Kamion> people are still writing in BASIC?
[02:37] <ogra> Kamion, they promoted that tool a lot nd it has really nice features... but nobody told us about gambas...
[02:37] <ogra> they ported from tcl/tk btw :)
[02:39] <ogra> JaneW, the prob with such tools is that they are developed for a very special environment... ours is a complete new implementation of such a environment...
[02:39] <ogra> so its not just "port this over" there are architectual differences you cant work around easily
[02:40] <JaneW> ogra: ok
[02:40] <JaneW> is php still a problem? 4 vs 5...
[02:40] <ogra> i'll do my best to get something working in universe...
[02:40] <Kamion> which one did you need? php5's in main now
[02:40] <ogra> if my mediawiki packages are ready its not... we'll use php5 and postgresql
[02:41] <JaneW> ogra: and the other pacakages, I thought you said a lot of them need php4...?
[02:41] <ogra> Kamion, mediawiki isnt supposed to work with php4... i couldnt convince the debian mediawiki team to make their pkg depend on 5....
[02:42] <ogra> additional the database is forced to mysql by them... i have postgres/php5 packages nearly done her
[02:42] <ogra> JaneW, all sorted with this alst remaining package
[02:42] <ogra> last even
[02:43] <JaneW> ok great
[02:43] <ogra> the server side looks pretty good already
[02:44] <ogra> edubuntu-desktop is installable from universe since last weekend...
[02:44] <ogra> as soon as all apps have moved to main it'll be good to go
[02:44] <JaneW> :)
[02:45] <Kamion> you should be able to test netboot installs if you boot with apt-setup/universe=true, plus the other Edubuntu preseeds that are on the CD
[02:45] <ogra> yay
[02:45] <JaneW> YAY
[02:45] <ogra> Kamion, thanks for that :)
[02:45] <Kamion> been there since warty ;)
[02:45] <JaneW> ogra: that 'all' from your side?
[02:46] <ogra> for now....
[02:46] <JaneW> are you still ready for people to start testing away tomorrow?
[02:46] <JaneW> please send a message to the mailing list to that effect if/when you are...
[02:46] <ogra> hmm... with the option Kamion just pointed out we're ready NOW !
[02:46] <JaneW> in that case start testing... NOW
[02:46] <LondonAndrew1> :-o
[02:47] <JaneW> ok so I guess we'll be needing documentation and artwork afterall ;)
[02:47] <Kamion> you can't do all the preseeds easily on the kernel command line though
[02:47] <Kamion> which makes it tricky
[02:47] <ogra> please understand that i'll sedn the instructions for testing after the freeze... i'll have a 48h hacking session after this meeting ;)
[02:47] <Kamion> hmm, let me see
[02:47] <LondonAndrew1> a sprint
[02:47] <ogra> yeah
[02:48] <LondonAndrew1> you will need bread for that
[02:48] <ogra> a small one :)
[02:48] <JaneW> ogra: understood
[02:48] <LondonAndrew1> and probably best to get rid of the girlfriend for a while
[02:48] <ogra> LondonAndrew1, baker still missing ...
[02:48] <JaneW> ogra: how do you want to receive feedback from the testing?
[02:48] <JaneW> ogra: do we need a template?
[02:48] <ogra> LondonAndrew1, as i said, she's away for 2 weeks :)
[02:48] <ogra> JaneW, yup, that was my plan ... 
[02:48] <LondonAndrew1> did you send away because of your commitment to edubuntu ;)
[02:49] <ogra> i'll write one up after the freeze... and put it on the wiki
[02:49] <JaneW> ogra: great thanks
[02:49] <ogra> LondonAndrew1, nope, she's visiting her mother
[02:49] <Kamion> I can't do the netcfg tweaks this way, but try booting a netboot install with preseed/url=http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/edubuntu/edubuntu.seed or preseed/url=http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/edubuntu/server.seed
[02:49] <JaneW> ogra: do you want comments posted on the wiki or mailed?
[02:49] <ogra> both ? 
[02:50] <Kamion> note that using preseed files you don't control is INSECURE so please don't recommend that ordinary users do this
[02:50] <ogra> or either of them... as long as the info reaches us
[02:50] <ogra> Kamion, ordinary users shouldnt even test at this stage :)
[02:50] <Kamion> (and it's untested)
[02:50] <ogra> i'm aming for people that can test ltsp... which still requires manual work so far
[02:51] <Kamion> (and it will take ages because you'll be fetching the entire world from the archive)
[02:51] <ogra> not only the seeds ? 
[02:51] <Kamion> netboot installs fetch everything from the archive, that's kind of the definition
[02:51] <ogra> ouch
[02:52] <Kamion> the only other alternative is to make cdimage be able to build CDs using universe, which I'm pretty resistant to doing because it has the potential to break mainline Ubuntu CDs in entertaining ways
[02:52] <ogra> nah, dont do that
[02:53] <ogra> we are down to 17 pending inclusion reports (from 35), most of them easily to approve... 
[02:54] <ogra> so it wont be a biggie te get the remaining stuff in and i'm willing to change te seed for now to exclude our problematic ones and include them later again
[02:54] <Kamion> X is rather happier now on i386/powerpc, see http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/breezy_probs.html
[02:55] <ogra> the only prob i had here were xkb stuff and a missing xinit...
[02:55] <mhz> Kamion: your netinstall means XP loaded machines will be able to netinstall via LTSP ??
[02:55] <Kamion> you shouldn't need to change the seed anyway, edubuntu-* should only depend on packages from main/restricted
[02:56] <Kamion> components = ['main', 'restricted', 'universe'] 
[02:56] <ogra> if these are solved and the autodetection works, X is done for me
[02:56] <Kamion> ogra: gah, why did you do that?
[02:56] <ogra> ?
[02:56] <Kamion> that's explicitly asking for edubuntu-* to be uninstallable within main
[02:56] <Kamion> edubuntu-meta/update
[02:56] <ogra> yes...
[02:56] <ogra> but the things *will* move
[02:57] <Kamion> if that were just ['main', 'restricted'] , then edubuntu-* would be installable and you could update it as new components arrived in main
[02:57] <ogra> nobody told me i'm restricted with the seed packages 
[02:57] <Kamion> you aren't
[02:57] <ogra> ah, yes... because i didnt expect this lag... the packages are about a month old...
[02:57] <Kamion> yes, I updated recently
[02:58] <ogra> havig a working X one day before freeze wasnt the plan i think
[02:58] <Kamion> mhz: XP has nothing to do with it; it doesn't really interact much with LTSP, although the server install should bring up an LTSP server
[02:59] <Kamion> there are many other things that could have been done while waiting for X (using workarounds such as installing two extra binary packages)
[02:59] <ogra> hmm, has putty a X export function ? then we could make it work 
[02:59] <mhz> Kamion: i know.. I meant, machines booting via PXE will be able to actually  netinstall instead of just using LTSP resources?
[03:00] <Kamion> mhz: yes
[03:00] <mhz> Kamion: coool!
[03:00] <Kamion> ogra: putty can do X forwarding, yes
[03:00] <ogra> Kamion, sure... i'm still learning... its my first own linux release i build... i know i'm responsible for much of this lag, but still i had no base to build on... 
[03:00] <Kamion> mhz: there's a netboot.tar.gz in /ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/ or somewhere like that in the archive
[03:00] <mhz> Kamion: if thatis so.. edubuntu is solving even more issues here on Chilean schools!
[03:01] <ogra> and working around such probs is a matter of experience i dont have yet
[03:01] <Kamion> unpack that onto somewhere a TFTP server can see, fiddle with the nightmare that is TFTP until the paths all work
[03:01] <ogra> hmm, XP is lacking nfs support... that chould be a prob in the putti scenario...
[03:02] <JaneW> ogra: part from feeling pressured and overworked are you happy we are on track?
[03:02] <Kamion> ogra: I don't mean to run you down, just saying that X breakage which is just due to a couple of missing packages doesn't need to be a blocker
[03:02] <JaneW> artwork - if anyone is still waiting...
[03:02] <JaneW>  1. wallpaper, need volunteer to help with this.
[03:02] <JaneW>  2. Edubuntu Mascot  JaneW will contact Sebastein Loss to see if he is willing to do an Edubutu version of his Ubuntu Mascot  http://sloss.free.fr/CCPapers.html, 'Breezy Goes to School'.
[03:02] <JaneW>  3. splash screen, need volunteer to help with this.
[03:02] <JaneW>  4. gdm theme, need volunteer to help with this.
[03:02] <JaneW>  5. Jonathan to create a flying penguins edubuntu 'please wait' screen. - first version completed.
[03:02] <JaneW>  6. Edubuntu web site artwork, need volunteer to help with this.
[03:02] <JaneW> anyone want to do 1,2,4 or 6?
[03:02] <LondonAndrew1> hello again
[03:02] <JaneW> hello?
[03:03] <ogra> Kamion, i know you dont want to run me down... but i'm realistic... about my doings... there is a log i'd have done different if i knew the processes...
[03:03] <LondonAndrew1> I would like to take on 1, 3 and 6, but will have to confirm deadlines to double check
[03:03] <LondonAndrew1> if its ok
[03:03] <ogra> ...or the workarounds
[03:03] <ogra> and i'm not happy at all  to make mdz unhappy
[03:03] <JaneW> LondonAndrew1: go ahead, any input would be wonderful
[03:04] <LondonAndrew1> what sort of dates
[03:04] <LondonAndrew1> would the artwork be required by
[03:04] <ogra> the deadline is on the breezy release schedule... wait a sec
[03:05] <ogra> Sep 29th
[03:05] <LondonAndrew1> ok that should be fine
[03:05] <LondonAndrew1> Regarding the website artwork?
[03:05] <LondonAndrew1> is that the design of the website
[03:06] <ogra> that should be ready as well (at least in a preview version) at this date...
[03:07] <ogra> we'll ship the preview CD from Sep 1st, so people will pay more attention form this date on...
[03:07] <ogra> baker !!
[03:07] <JaneW> ogra: when would our artwork deadline be? 29 Sept?
[03:07] <JaneW> LondonAndrew1: the artwork deadline should be 29 Sept, same as the Ubuntu main artwork deadline (I seem to be horribly lagged - sorry about the disjointed discussion)
[03:08] <LondonAndrew1> Jane - the website artwork, does this entail doing the design of the website etc? Does anyone have anymore info regarding what is required
[03:08] <JaneW> LondonAndrew1: Jonathan (HoghVoltage) is getting a website set up... you can contact him wrt requirements for that. It should be ready in a week or 2
[03:08] <JaneW> Highvoltage I mean
[03:09] <LondonAndrew1> JaneW, okay thanks will do
[03:09] <LondonAndrew1> JaneW, do you have an email address I can contact him by?
[03:09] <mhz> I am currently working on a Moin version tuxLabs cookbook
[03:09] <mhz> will that be usefull?
[03:11] <JaneW> LondonAndrew1: see www.edubuntu.org he's on the contacts table near the bottom
[03:12] <LondonAndrew1> JaneW - Thanks
[03:12] <JaneW> LondonAndrew1: jonathan@shuttleworthfoundation.org
[03:12] <JaneW> contender for the longest e-mail address in the world ;)
[03:12] <LondonAndrew1> :)
[03:12] <JaneW> mhz: yes of course
[03:12] <ogra> JaneW, yes, for the distro artwork
[03:13] <JaneW> ok anything else to discuss? The lag is killing us. Plus time's up.
[03:13] <JaneW> Same time same place next week?
[03:13] <ogra> mhz, we'll ship mediawiki... 
[03:13] <ogra> mhz, will it work there too ?
[03:13] <mhz> ogra: there should be a purser to do taht
[03:14] <ogra> JaneW, sounds good... or probably a later time to get mdz in at least one meeting with us
[03:14] <ogra> so he can point out his concerns
[03:14] <LondonAndrew1> JaneW - okay dokes
[03:15] <mhz> however, MY idea of wiki is to be able to syncronize /data among servers. That IS no possible in MediWiki (AFAIK)
[03:15] <JaneW> ogra: hmm, ok, 22:00?
[03:15] <ogra> UTC ?
[03:15] <JaneW> yep
[03:15] <ogra> ok with me
[03:15] <JaneW> ok done
[03:16] <JaneW> jsgotangco might make that - if he;s an early riser...
[03:16] <ogra> mhz, with postgresql as backend you can solve it with a central SQL server 
[03:16] <ogra> i.e. build clusters...
[03:16] <mhz> ogra: yes...sounds possible
[03:17] <mhz> ogra: but not for normal standard teachers
[03:17] <ogra> mhz, depends on the tools you give them ;)
[03:17] <mhz> hehehe
[03:17] <mhz> true
[03:21] <mhz> Kamion: please let me get this streight... I install Edubuntu in a HD, when it reboots it gets stuck by X server. (and I can't access to the machine because no ALT Fx's work, neither SSH to it)
[03:22] <Kamion> mhz: being fixed
[03:22] <Kamion> mhz: boot in recovery mode, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; that should probably sort it out
[03:22] <mhz> so how do I set it up to let me install linux on clients with HD only and able to boot PXE
[03:23] <mhz> you mention something about untaring  pkg into a /dir TFTP can access
[03:23] <JaneW> ok, I have updated the meeting notes - not a heck of a lot this week.
[03:23] <Kamion> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s05.html
[03:23] <mhz> JaneW: thx
[03:23] <JaneW> ogra: thanks for your time especially
[03:24] <JaneW> and kamion :)
[03:24] <mhz> ogra: thanks for these lot of extra efforts
[03:24] <mhz> yeah ,that too
[03:24] <mhz> :)
[03:24] <ogra> yes, absolutely... thanks Kamion :)
[03:25] <mhz> Kamion: that doc seems lot easier than some I had read
[03:25] <mhz> :)
[03:26] <ogra> mhz, you want a ltsp install, right ? 
[03:27] <mhz> hehehe, ideally yes and if it Edubuntu... betta!
[03:28] <ogra> so you should be fine with the next edubuntu CD build (tomorrow) if X installs fine then...
[03:28] <mhz> ogra: thankz
[03:28] <ogra> you just have to run ltsp-build-client after the installation and make sure you have a working network connection...
[03:28] <ogra> additionally follow this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[03:29] <mhz> that sounds simple enough for this humble teacher :)
[03:29] <ogra> the first steps of 1. are already done on the edubuntu Cd
[03:30] <mhz> I always talk about FLOSS and Ubuntu and Moin using this XP laptop :(
[03:30] <ogra> you only need the dhcp part....
[03:30] <mhz> yesp
[03:30] <ogra> then go on with 2.
[03:30] <LondonAndrew1> :-o
[03:31] <mhz> :)
[03:32] <LondonAndrew1> I am currently sorting my spare room up
[03:32] <LondonAndrew1> to have a little edubuntu network
[03:32] <ogra> :)
[03:33] <LondonAndrew1> its all exciting stuff
[03:33] <LondonAndrew1> though a new world as I`m only a relatively recent switcher
[03:33] <ogra> yup
[03:33] <LondonAndrew1> to Linux and Ubuntu
[03:33] <mhz> ogra: I know why we use MediWiki... another argument of why I am moining tuxlabs cookbook is because mobile users (PalmOne users, example) can't see Mediwiki as well as Moin
[03:33] <ogra> aha
[03:34] <mhz> LondonAndrew1: welcome back to the real world
[03:34] <mhz> :)
[03:34] <ogra> i cant change the committment to mediawiki, no need to convince me ;)
[03:34] <mhz> LOL
[03:34] <ogra> i would have preferred moin...
[03:34] <mhz> I get it
[03:34] <mhz> I have no commitment to MediWiki so... I can moin everything :)
[03:35] <ogra> but our audience we had at the summit didnt... and mediawiki is the wikipedia wiki
[03:35] <ogra> so if thats what the customer wants, he gets it
[03:35] <mhz> plus, when I talk in Peru, I will talk about MoinMoin and Edubuntu. It will be nice to showoff Moin stuff (cookbook)
[03:36] <ogra> moin is available as packge at least ... and even already in main iirc
[03:37] <mhz> yep
[03:42] <hno73> LondonAndrew1: I can help with the website stuff too (henrik@ubuntu.com)
[03:43] <hno73> I think it was decided to use plone, which we already have a good skin for thatcan be tweaked
[03:43] <LondonAndrew1> excellent
[03:44] <LondonAndrew1> are there any mock ups yet
[03:44] <LondonAndrew1> or any idea of what content we will be putting up
[03:48] <hno73> LondonAndrew1: Some early ideas for the header here: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki
[03:51] <LondonAndrew1> thanks have bookmarked
[03:55] <hno73> LondonAndrew1: if you email me I'll send some other images and ideas that I have
[04:05] <LondonAndrew1> hno73 - will do now
[04:16] <LondonAndrew1> hno73 - you have mail.
[04:25] <mhz> shouldn't we get backt ot edubuntu?
[04:34] <mhz> ogra: just FYI.. www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/media4moin