| ogra | the other one is a broadcom based linksys card... running with ndiswrapper on amd64 .... | 12:02 |
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| ogra | and the built in card of my lappie doesnt work at all (no drivers) | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | you can use ndiswrapper on amd64? | 12:03 |
| === ajmitch has a prism2 card, and a madwifi card | ||
| Nafallo | debians kismet defaults to have gps and all files in /usr/local/* right now :-P | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | that sounds very broken | 12:04 |
| Nafallo | indeed | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | 2005.06.r1-1 ? | 12:05 |
| Nafallo | yes | 12:05 |
| Nafallo | I debdiff against us and got afraid ;-) | 12:05 |
| Nafallo | # User to setid to (should be your normal user) | 12:05 |
| Nafallo | -suiduser=your_user_here | 12:05 |
| Nafallo | +#suiduser=your_user_here | 12:05 |
| Nafallo | yay! :-P | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | well it's a new upstream, of course there'll be lots of changes :) | 12:06 |
| Nafallo | debian is - ;-) | 12:06 |
| ogra | ajmitch, yes, you can use ndiswrapper on amd64 , since v1.1 and only with broadcom cards with win64bit driver.... but i'm fighting for a change in the package so it builds for amd64 too for breezy ... | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | a shame my old AP is dead.. | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | at least the airport express downstairs still works :) | 12:07 |
| Nafallo | hmm, let's see. | 12:14 |
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| Nafallo | why is backports bad == because of 1h chatting with people that thinks guifications should go in hoary-updates cause 2.10 didn't work properly when you click on the notification. | 12:40 |
| Nafallo | *sigh* I hate users :-P. | 12:40 |
| Nafallo | (hoary has 2.9-1 btw) | 12:41 |
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| ajmitch | hey dholbach | 12:41 |
| dholbach | thanks for the good reviews on prefixsuffix and istanbul :) | 12:41 |
| dholbach | hi ajmitch | 12:41 |
| Burgundavia | why is it that as soon as I run a program in gdb, it doesn't crash? | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | heisenbug | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | or often a race condition or similar :) | 12:43 |
| Burgundavia | this is a random synaptic crash. very frustrating to figure out | 12:44 |
| Nafallo | Burgundavia: yay! please fix it :-) | 12:44 |
| Burgundavia | Nafallo, I don't code | 12:44 |
| Burgundavia | I am just looking to see if it is same as the existing bugs | 12:44 |
| Nafallo | my mouse feels like a magic wand when I'm close to that window. it just vanishes :-). | 12:45 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 12:45 |
| Lathiat | Burgundavia: need a faster computer :) | 12:45 |
| Burgundavia | faster debugging by have the program crash faster? | 12:46 |
| Lathiat | no | 12:48 |
| Lathiat | then at debug speeds | 12:48 |
| Lathiat | it'l run as fast as normal on your computer now | 12:48 |
| Lathiat | so it'l work. :) | 12:48 |
| dholbach | Burgundavia: try to build it as a debug package and try again | 12:49 |
| Burgundavia | dholbach, synaptic works in gdb, unlike other stuff | 12:49 |
| dholbach | Burgundavia: at the end of wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingTips is a brief description | 12:49 |
| Burgundavia | I just can't make it crash | 12:49 |
| dholbach | Burgundavia: maybe it crashes with debugging symbols :-p | 12:50 |
| Burgundavia | rofl | 12:50 |
| sistpoty | hm... i just tried to build kaffe (UniverseUnmetDeps) and it seems that in debian all issues have been adressed... (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=318785)... should i put kaffe to the sync from debian-section? | 12:53 |
| ajmitch | might as well | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | does it break UVF? | 12:57 |
| sistpoty | hm... well kaffe is currently broken, and imo a debian sync would fix it | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | right | 01:00 |
| sistpoty | I'll try to build with latest sid source... if it succeeds, i'll put it to sync from debian, ok? | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | ok | 01:02 |
| sistpoty | but I'll do that tomorrow ;) (took an eternity to build with sid-sources) | 01:03 |
| sistpoty | err with breezy-sources | 01:03 |
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| dholbach | :-) | 01:05 |
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| SloMoSnail | good night everybody :) | 01:08 |
| sistpoty | gn8 SloMoSnail | 01:08 |
| === sistpoty needs some sleep... gn8 folks | ||
| Nafallo | night all | 01:10 |
| Burgundavia | tseng, muine also crashes after finishing the last song in the queue | 01:14 |
| tseng | im not sure what you want me to tell you | 01:14 |
| Burgundavia | nothing | 01:14 |
| tseng | it doesnt crash that often here | 01:14 |
| Lathiat | Burgundavia: what plugins are you using? | 01:15 |
| tseng | Burgundavia: nothing. | 01:15 |
| Burgundavia | Lathiat, only the notty area one | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | whats that? | 01:16 |
| tseng | trayicon | 01:16 |
| Burgundavia | ya | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | oh right | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | well | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | works for me | 01:16 |
| tseng | exactly | 01:27 |
| Burgundavia | why I am only bothering you here and not with a bug report | 01:28 |
| tseng | ok, as long as you dont expect me to take action | 01:28 |
| Burgundavia | I realize that there is little you can do | 01:28 |
| Lathiat | heh | 01:32 |
| Lathiat | does mono have a working debugger? | 01:32 |
| tseng | what did I say yesterday | 01:33 |
| tseng | and debugging gstreamer apps | 01:33 |
| Lathiat | i have no idea i wasnt watching yesterday :) | 01:34 |
| tseng | its useless | 01:34 |
| Lathiat | right | 01:34 |
| tseng | in my experience | 01:34 |
| Lathiat | yay :( | 01:34 |
| Lathiat | debug it on windows ;p | 01:34 |
| tseng | a few times a second | 01:34 |
| tseng | you get timer events from gst | 01:34 |
| tseng | if you try and step through it | 01:34 |
| tseng | you will be there all day | 01:35 |
| tseng | if you try and step in bigger blocks, you throw SIGPOWER all over the floor | 01:35 |
| Lathiat | hrm :\ | 01:35 |
| Lathiat | avahi_set_errno (client, AVAHI_ERR_DBUS_ERROR); | 01:36 |
| Lathiat | oops | 01:36 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, why are you subscribed to the entire wiki? | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: a lack of sanity | 01:53 |
| Burgundavia | ok, just wondering | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | I should try & restrict the regex to motu related topics | 01:54 |
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| dholbach | :) | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: as I said, lack of sanity ;) | 01:55 |
| dholbach | merci beaucoup | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 01:56 |
| Burgundavia | well, I have been filled your inboxes with crap recently | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | I don't mind | 01:56 |
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| ajmitch | it's a drop in the bucket compared to the other crap I get :) | 01:57 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, are you also crazy enough to suscribe to the entire of the bugzilla? | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | oh no | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | I'm not that silly | 01:57 |
| Burgundavia | there can't be that many (I am one of them) | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | heh | 01:59 |
| === ajmitch will bbl | ||
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| dholbach | hm a 60k apt/sources.list doesnt seem to work | 02:28 |
| Lathiat | 60k? | 02:31 |
| dholbach | yes | 02:32 |
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| ajmitch | dholbach: apt-get.org ? | 02:44 |
| dholbach | yes :) | 02:44 |
| dholbach | i have to finish something for feature freeze | 02:44 |
| dholbach | so i'm further automating that crack via python-apt | 02:44 |
| ajmitch | ah great :) | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | how's that going? | 02:46 |
| dholbach | awfully slow | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | makes sense | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | I have a script that works on parsing source lists | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | probably written the slowest way possible though | 02:46 |
| dholbach | same for me :) | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | it's what I used for the rfp list, zope lists etc | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | not using python-apt, though :) | 02:47 |
| dholbach | WOW, it now downloads NEW source packages | 02:47 |
| dholbach | ROCKNROLL | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | great! :) | 02:48 |
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| ajmitch | after a bad test of initramfs | 02:48 |
| dholbach | ouch | 02:48 |
| dholbach | now i need to figure out, if pbuilder works nicely with it, and i'm happy | 02:48 |
| ajmitch | I just had to get grub using initrd again | 02:48 |
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| ajmitch | ok, off to lunch, back to work, bbl ;) | 02:51 |
| dholbach | see you | 02:51 |
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| bddebian | Ah, this channel is so exciting this time of day :-) | 03:10 |
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| bmonty | bddebian, you make it exciting :) | 03:11 |
| bddebian | Well I have to be good for SOMETHING :-) | 03:12 |
| bmonty | looks like I have a nice thunderstorm heading my way | 03:13 |
| bddebian | We had ours yesterday | 03:14 |
| bmonty | I hope it is decent so I won't have to go out and water the yard tonight | 03:15 |
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| bddebian | Damn I hate job hunting :-( | 03:16 |
| comadreja | hello all | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Heya comadreja | 03:18 |
| bmonty | hey comadreja | 03:18 |
| comadreja | how are you all | 03:18 |
| comadreja | sorry for not being visible last days | 03:19 |
| comadreja | I'm having some terrible job pressure | 03:19 |
| bddebian | Heh, I know that feeling :-) | 03:19 |
| comadreja | We need to finish some software and we have not enough people | 03:20 |
| comadreja | it's like we'd like to have ten hands | 03:20 |
| bddebian | I'd be happy if I worked with people that had 1 brain.. ;-) | 03:21 |
| comadreja | hehehe really ? that bad ? | 03:21 |
| bmonty | so if I have a debdiff file, how do I apply it against an unpacked source tree? | 03:21 |
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| bddebian | comadreja: Yes | 03:21 |
| bddebian | bmonty: patch -p[patch level] < foo.debdiff I think | 03:22 |
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| bmonty | bddebian: yeah, that worked, thanks | 03:23 |
| bddebian | NP | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | hi bmonty, bddebian | 03:25 |
| bmonty | hi ajmitch | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: job hunting? again? | 03:25 |
| comadreja | hey ajmitch :) | 03:26 |
| ajmitch | hi comadreja | 03:26 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch, yeah, unfortunately | 03:27 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Well I didn't get fired this time if that is what you mean :-) | 03:27 |
| comadreja | I'm looking for a new job too... | 03:27 |
| comadreja | this one is too stressing | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: well that's an improvement :) | 03:28 |
| bddebian | :'-( | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | what's wrong with your current job? | 03:29 |
| bddebian | It sucks | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | that's very descriptive | 03:31 |
| bddebian | Over 2 hours to get to work this morning. Stupid people. Ignorant / non-involved management. Windows ;-) Ad nauseum :-) | 03:33 |
| Lathiat | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5791782530 | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: ah, I use windows, but it's a <10 minute walk to work for me :) | 03:34 |
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| bddebian | Lathiat: :-) | 03:35 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I think I'll try the FSF admin job.. ;-P | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | good luck | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | don't let them catch you installing non-free software on there ;) | 03:36 |
| bddebian | Bah, they're in Boston. Screw that. :-) Not to mention about 1/2 of what I make currently :-) | 03:36 |
| Lathiat | haha | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | you're meant to work for them for the love of The Cause | 03:36 |
| bmonty | Boston rules | 03:37 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Not hardly d00d :-) | 03:37 |
| bddebian | I don't think they'd appreciate me pummeling RMS ;-P | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: RMS would be your boss | 03:37 |
| bddebian | bmonty: Well it would be a little bit of a drive and I'm not moving for half my current pay ;-) | 03:37 |
| bmonty | you could try it out, and then get a higher paying IT job....there are plenty of them in that area | 03:38 |
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| bmonty | hey I like that cotton! | 03:40 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, yeah going from Director of IT at a Nike Division to IT Manager at my current company to "sysadmin" at the FSF looks really good on the CV/Resume ;-P | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: hey, you can put 'MOTU' on there soon ;) | 03:42 |
| bddebian | No apparently I can't since no one shows up to meetings and Mez says I need "someone to vouch for me" ;-P | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | yes, you do need a couple of people to speak up for you | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | and this week's TB meeting was unfortunate | 03:43 |
| bmonty | bddebian: :P | 03:44 |
| === bddebian stops doing shit until he finds his "voucher" ;-P | ||
| === bddebian hides | ||
| ajmitch | if you stop, noone will speak up for you ;) | 03:44 |
| === dholbach has a dj-vu :) | ||
| bddebian | Sounds like a chicken and egg problem to me.. :-) | 03:45 |
| bddebian | dholbach: ? | 03:45 |
| dholbach | looks as we had that conversation already earlier today :) | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Oh, sorry | 03:46 |
| dholbach | don't worry | 03:46 |
| bddebian | ajmitch didn't get to hear my whining ;-) | 03:46 |
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| dholbach | ah ok :) | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I think I can live without hearing it | 03:46 |
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| bddebian | dholbach: See, I get no love.. ;-P | 03:47 |
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| dholbach | bddebian: me neither - python hates me | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: python is lovely | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: when do you need this script working? | 03:48 |
| dholbach | feature freeze is ... erm tomorrow? | 03:49 |
| dholbach | and i need to have it working/building/... :) | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | ok, I can help out if you want :) | 03:49 |
| dholbach | right now i'm trying to do something simple | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | I understand mdz wanted a list of packages to import by freeze time? | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | or at least packages to review | 03:49 |
| dholbach | yes and that (for me) depends on building a huge load of packages, which could be reviewed | 03:50 |
| dholbach | and a list of stuff that doesnt build, but might be working after a bit of fiddling | 03:50 |
| dholbach | (and sorted out all the crack that we have) | 03:50 |
| dholbach | you don't want to do that manually | 03:50 |
| ajmitch | certainly true | 03:51 |
| dholbach | right now, i want something like pbuilder build bla*.dsc (bla is in a string i have) | 03:51 |
| dholbach | and i'm crying over Popen | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | I've got a little bit of spare cpu power here for building & I can run scripts ;) | 03:51 |
| dholbach | i'm sure that's crackful | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | hmm, I used popen, I'm sure.. | 03:51 |
| dholbach | ok | 03:52 |
| dholbach | problem is bla*.dsc has to process by another command | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | if os.system("/usr/bin/dpkg --compare-versions %s %s %s" % | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | (versions[0] , | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | operator, | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | versions[1] )): | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | nope, I used that | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | the shell needs to expand * ? | 03:52 |
| dholbach | yes | 03:52 |
| dholbach | i got an error | 03:52 |
| dholbach | "bla*.dsc is no suitable" candidate or something | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | can your python program not write this into a script & then exec /bin/bash ? | 03:53 |
| ajmitch | evil, I know | 03:53 |
| dholbach | hm | 03:53 |
| dholbach | yes | 03:53 |
| dholbach | it could | 03:53 |
| dholbach | *clickediclack* | 03:53 |
| ajmitch | but this doesn't have to be nice, it just has to work | 03:53 |
| bmonty | what is the purpose of the script? | 03:54 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: take a *large* list of apt sources, get the src packages contained there, and build them, afaik | 03:54 |
| === bddebian still says "throw them to the buildds" :-) | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: that's crazy - these packages are often full of crap, to put it mildly | 03:55 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: The UniverseUnmetDeps packages? | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | apt-get.org | 03:56 |
| bmonty | if the packages are full of crap, why build them? | 03:56 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: you rock | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | unmet deps are different | 03:56 |
| dholbach | os.system did it | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Oohh, sorry | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: excellent | 03:56 |
| dholbach | i used subprocess.call() before | 03:56 |
| dholbach | rock AND roll | 03:56 |
| bddebian | Don't we have enough work to do without apt-get.org? :-) | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: yes, we do | 03:57 |
| comadreja | dholbach : glob ? | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | and I feel bad about not doing my share | 03:57 |
| bddebian | As well you should :-) | 03:57 |
| dholbach | comadreja: glob? | 03:57 |
| comadreja | dholbach : glob.glob ("*.dsc") | 03:58 |
| seth_k | bddebian, the buildds eat children if you make them unhappy :D | 03:58 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: don't worry | 03:58 |
| comadreja | will return a list of *.dsc files | 03:58 |
| Lathiat | seth_k: heh | 03:58 |
| bddebian | seth_k: Well as long as they aren't MY children :-) | 03:58 |
| dholbach | comadreja: oh cool... next time :) | 03:58 |
| dholbach | ok it works | 03:58 |
| dholbach | runs | 03:58 |
| dholbach | makes sleep badly | 03:58 |
| dholbach | but it runs | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: so it's building all of apt-get.org now? | 03:59 |
| dholbach | it tries to | 03:59 |
| dholbach | all the stuff we don't have | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | ok | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | if there's any other scripting needed, I can probably supply :) | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | I've still got to get the source for unmet deps | 04:00 |
| bmonty | is packages.ubuntu.com, the latest and greatest on packages that are available? | 04:00 |
| dholbach | i'll see what the output is tomorrow | 04:00 |
| dholbach | ok... have a good night | 04:00 |
| dholbach | i'm off | 04:00 |
| bmonty | nite dholbach | 04:00 |
| dholbach | it's !!!! 4 !!!! already | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Later dholbach | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: good work, night | 04:01 |
| dholbach | night bmonty, ajmitch, comadreja, Lathiat, bddebian - you guys rock! | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: are there any packages that just need a rebuild that I can upload? | 04:01 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: doodle is ready to go, there is a link to the debdiff on unmet deps page | 04:01 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: There were, but I think Nafallo may have hit them today | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | ok | 04:02 |
| ajmitch | I see you have vipec listed as needs love, there's a patch in debian's BTS that I'll apply | 04:02 |
| bmonty | BTW, whats the deal with gcc 4.0 not building packages? | 04:03 |
| bddebian | bmonty: A lot of it are just more strict C rules | 04:03 |
| ajmitch | gcc 4.0 is a lot stricter | 04:03 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: doodle is just a rebuild? | 04:03 |
| bmonty | k, makes sense | 04:03 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: I had to change the control file | 04:03 |
| ajmitch | then you have to change the version to reflect that | 04:03 |
| ajmitch | you can't just have a build1 version if you change anything else | 04:04 |
| bmonty | so should it be 0.6.2-ubuntu1? | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | next debian upload that MoM synced would overwrite that | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | 0.6.2-3ubuntu1 | 04:04 |
| bmonty | k, I'll fix that | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | * change libdoodle dependency to libextractor1c2 | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | makes no sense | 04:05 |
| bddebian | Goddamn, everyone wants programmers.. :'-( | 04:06 |
| bmonty | it was libextractor1c which is now libextractor1c2 | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | then say that :) | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | I can see that when I look at the control file, but not at the changelog | 04:06 |
| bmonty | ok | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | and mention the build-dep change as well | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | and add the fam dep back in | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | when you asked the other day, you said that libfam0 depends on it | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | it only recommends | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: see, I'm this picky with other people, not just you ;) | 04:08 |
| bmonty | ok, got it | 04:08 |
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| bmonty | ajmitch: where did you see a build-dep change? | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | sorry, not build-dep, but depends for doodled | 04:17 |
| bmonty | ok, I got that | 04:17 |
| crimsun | hum. | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | hey crimsun | 04:17 |
| crimsun | hey ajmitch, bmonty, bddebian | 04:17 |
| bmonty | hey crimsun | 04:18 |
| crimsun | strange, i386 failed pyxmms | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | why is that strange? | 04:18 |
| chillywilly | hi | 04:18 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: python2.3 is uninstallable on i386? | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: it shouldn't be, let me check | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | zope still depends on it | 04:19 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: new debdiff is at http://www.montynet.org/ubuntu/debdiff/doodle_0.6.2-3ubuntu1.debdiff | 04:19 |
| crimsun | the other three arches built it just fine, so it should have built on i386 | 04:20 |
| crimsun | looks like a chroot issue | 04:20 |
| bddebian | Heya crimsun | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: definitely, apt-get update must have failed | 04:21 |
| bddebian | chillywilly!!!!!!!! | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | see the 'could not stat..' lines | 04:21 |
| crimsun | yep | 04:21 |
| chillywilly | bddebian!!! | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: much better :) | 04:21 |
| bmonty | thanks :) | 04:22 |
| ajmitch | getting build-deps, this could take awhile | 04:23 |
| chillywilly | ajmitch: did you get your net connection upgrade yet? | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: of course not | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | I live in NZ | 04:24 |
| chillywilly | bah... | 04:24 |
| chillywilly | well that sucks | 04:24 |
| bmonty | so, I'm looking at the package drip and it build-depends on libavifile-0.7 which apt says is uninstallable, but ubuntu.packages.com has it....what gives? | 04:25 |
| chillywilly | maybe you should switch the IP over carrier pigeon ;) | 04:25 |
| bddebian | bmonty: "apt-cache policy libavifile" | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: it'd probably be faster | 04:26 |
| chillywilly | HEH | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | get them to carry DVDs | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | jumbo packets | 04:26 |
| chillywilly | hehe | 04:26 |
| bmonty | bddebian: ok, but I can download the package from packages.ubuntu.com, thats why I'm confused | 04:28 |
| chillywilly | anyone know if the linux kernel went with the 4 digit version number thingy? | 04:28 |
| crimsun | yes | 04:28 |
| chillywilly | cause kernel.org show 2.6.12.4 being the latest stable version, so I was thinking they did | 04:28 |
| chillywilly | ok | 04:28 |
| crimsun | ubuntu uses the fourth number to denote the kernel abi | 04:29 |
| crimsun | (in the revision) | 04:29 |
| bddebian | bmonty: What repo does it say it's in? | 04:30 |
| bmonty | http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libavifile-0.7 | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | Version table: | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | 1:0.7.43.20050224-1ubuntu4 0 | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | 1200 http://10.18.1.1 breezy/universe Packages | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | that is annoying - I had libavifile0.7 installed (no - ) | 04:32 |
| bmonty | The following information may help to resolve the situation: | 04:33 |
| bmonty | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 04:33 |
| bmonty | libavifile-0.7-dev: Depends: libavifile-0.7 (= 1:0.7.43.20050224-1ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed | 04:33 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, I already have it installed it seems :-( | 04:34 |
| crimsun | wasn't libavifile-0.7 transitioned? | 04:34 |
| bddebian | There is a c2 but it's an older rev | 04:35 |
| bddebian | .38 vs .43 | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: from c102, iirc | 04:35 |
| bmonty | bugzilla says it was renamed to libavifile-0.7 | 04:36 |
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| DoNnInHa | oi BIGBRUNO :) | 04:37 |
| BIGBRUNO | DoNnInHa: Hi | 04:38 |
| DoNnInHa | BIGBRUNO; :P | 04:38 |
| DoNnInHa | todo mundo aqui fala ingles11255 | 04:39 |
| DoNnInHa | todo mundo aqui fala ingles? | 04:39 |
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| bmonty | dvr source package has the same issue | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Someone please kill me | 04:43 |
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| bddebian | Thanks Lathiat :-) | 04:44 |
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| ajmitch | bmonty: doodle uploaded | 04:47 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: just same it on the RSS feed, thanks | 04:47 |
| bmonty | r/same/saw | 04:47 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: marks the debian bug for vipec, will fix soon :) | 04:52 |
| ajmitch | s/marks/marked/ | 04:52 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: ? | 04:54 |
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| DoNnInHa | noh | 04:56 |
| DoNnInHa | esse treim eh mto ruim | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | DoNnInHa: english in here, please | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: on the wiki, I put a link to the debian bts entry for vipec.. | 04:56 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Ah, cool | 04:57 |
| DoNnInHa | quero ir pra brasnet :P nao sei falar ingles | 04:57 |
| DoNnInHa | bye | 04:57 |
| bddebian | Ohh, VP of IT and CIO for $200,000+. That'd do ;-) | 04:58 |
| ajmitch | go for it | 04:58 |
| bddebian | Hell I'd buy ya a new laptop for that one ajmitch ;-P | 04:58 |
| DoNnInHa | fui | 04:59 |
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| ajmitch | bddebian: that'd be nice ;) | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | sigh, a 1-line patch, which patch system should I use today? | 05:00 |
| chillywilly | debdiff ;) | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: useful comments, thanks :P | 05:01 |
| bddebian | write something in perl to patch it.. ;-P | 05:01 |
| chillywilly | oh crikey... | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | I mean like quilt, dpatch, etc | 05:01 |
| chillywilly | write a python script | 05:02 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Be creative ;-P | 05:02 |
| chillywilly | that calls one of those and downloads pr0n | 05:02 |
| bddebian | Hehe | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | Is anybody familiar with the UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile wiki page? | 05:03 |
| chillywilly | it's probably the page where there are univer packages without desktop files | 05:03 |
| chillywilly | universe too | 05:03 |
| chillywilly | :) | 05:04 |
| bddebian | Yep, that'd be it :-) | 05:04 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: yes, it's out of date, needs to be refreshed for breezy | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | well, yeah I know that :-) | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | I have some questions about it | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | I was wanting to help get some of those .desktop files made | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | but some of the packages listed don't seem to need .desktop files | 05:05 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: great | 05:05 |
| ajmitch | that's why the list needs updated :) | 05:05 |
| ajmitch | I think it was made from packages that have a .menu file but no .desktop | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | do they all really need .desktop files though | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | ? | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | for instance, does vim-python need to be in the menu? | 05:06 |
| bddebian | Damn, $90,000/yr for a Sr. Linux Admin.. Sheesh | 05:07 |
| ajmitch | maybe not, but I'm not one to make that call :) | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | while that clutter users' menus? | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | *will | 05:08 |
| ajmitch | yes | 05:08 |
| chillywilly | bddebian: looking for a new job? | 05:08 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Aye | 05:08 |
| ajmitch | we have to find some balance between making programs visible & not cluttering up the menus with hundreds of entries | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | well, is there other uses for the .desktop files beside menus? | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | I saw on the freedesktop.org site that it looked like their use for mimetypes is depriciated | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | not sure, there was talk of using them for a new gnome-app-install | 05:11 |
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| ajmitch | I think the usage is just menu | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | well, it looks like we could use the NoDisplay key to keep non-gui type apps out of the menu, but still have the flexability to use it in the future | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth is the menu man here | 05:14 |
| Amaranth | hihi | 05:14 |
| Amaranth | what's up? | 05:14 |
| Amaranth | NoDisplay is what smeg uses | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile | 05:14 |
| Amaranth | so it'll work | 05:14 |
| Amaranth | if you use Hidden smeg won't see it and it's mime type info will be ignored | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | but is it worth the effort for a lot of the CLI type stuff? | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: aside from smeg, we're talking about making .desktop files for those packages that don't have them | 05:16 |
| Amaranth | ajmitch: i know, i was just telling him NoDisplay is the solution for hiding things | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | right | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | so should the focus be on Breezy and not Hoary? | 05:18 |
| bddebian | Yes | 05:18 |
| bddebian | I wonder if I can lie well enough for the Sr. Linux Admin job (RedHat and SuSe, yuck) | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | certainly | 05:18 |
| Amaranth | .desktop files are a nice low hanging fruit | 05:18 |
| bddebian | So is UniverseUnmetDeps | 05:19 |
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| ajmitch | Amaranth: we need someone to collate .desktop files that people contribute | 05:19 |
| ajmitch | sincenot everyone can fix up & patch a package to include them | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | well, that was what I was wondering | 05:19 |
| Amaranth | i don't know how either :P | 05:19 |
| Amaranth | i can tell you a .desktop file is valid, but so can desktop-file-validate | 05:20 |
| ajmitch | right, I'll volunteer for now & hand it off to someone else who's worthy :) | 05:20 |
| ajmitch | it's mainly including it in the packaging, which I can do well enough | 05:20 |
| Amaranth | one of these days i'm going to start spamming bugs for invalid .desktop files | 05:20 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: I could help out with that also | 05:20 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: great, thanks | 05:21 |
| Amaranth | i've never added a file to a package, just edited existing files | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | we just need people to start submitting them | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | maybe Amaranth can spam the forums for contributions ;) | 05:21 |
| Amaranth | and there is the intltool scripts that need to be done that i don't know about | 05:21 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm not much of a packager, but the .desktop files are easy enough to make | 05:21 |
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| bmonty | ajmitch: I'm working on a package called amsynth, it is copying in config.guess and config.sub from /usr/share/misc/config and causing the debdiff to be rather large with all the changes, is that cool for a package that only needs a rebuild? | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | what if we made a thread in the UbuntuForums Breezy Badger form where people could just post the .desktop files? | 05:24 |
| bddebian | bmonty: No, ignore that crap :-) | 05:24 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: good idea | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | I think first off, the list of packages needing .desktop files needs to be updated | 05:25 |
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| Amaranth | ajmitch: basically anything i could do for you is covered by a shell script | 05:25 |
| ajmitch | sure | 05:25 |
| ajmitch | Amaranth: ok :) | 05:25 |
| Amaranth | unless you need help figuring out what category to put something in | 05:25 |
| bmonty | bddebian: so...just cut it out of the debdiff? | 05:26 |
| bddebian | bmonty: I would but I'm probably the wrong person to ask :-) | 05:26 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: yeah, it's the easiest way for now | 05:26 |
| bmonty | too easy :) | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | so, would it be OK if I found the packages that needed .desktop files in Breezy and updated the wiki? | 05:34 |
| ajmitch | gah, what is mcs 1.0.5 source still doing in breezy? | 05:35 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: I added a debdiff for amsynth, just needs a rebuild | 05:35 |
| bmonty | and with that....good night everyone | 05:35 |
| bddebian | Good night bmonty, good work | 05:35 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: thanks, night | 05:36 |
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| bddebian | Howdy ogra | 05:40 |
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| ajmitch | that should never be on there, and mono-assemblies-arch should be gone from the archive | 05:41 |
| bddebian | So fix it d00d | 05:42 |
| ajmitch | umm, what do you think I'm doing? | 05:43 |
| bddebian | Yapping ;-P | 05:46 |
| Lathiat | haha | 05:48 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: is there something I should do for this .desktop thing or should I let you (MOTU) take care of it? | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | write .desktop files? :) | 06:08 |
| ajmitch | we'll sort out what packages need them asap | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | who should I give them to? | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | should I just start posting them in the Ubuntu Forums? | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | or would the wiki be more appropriate? | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | wiki is where we will see them quicker | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | oh, ok | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | ok, another question, are the packages on the UniverseUnmetDeps wikipage for Breezy? | 06:18 |
| bddebian | Yes | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | only Breezy? | 06:18 |
| bddebian | Yes | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | cool, thanks | 06:18 |
| bddebian | NP | 06:18 |
| seth_k | speaking of .desktop files, someone want to figure out why this .desktop file refuses to show in the KDE menu? | 06:19 |
| bddebian | Time for me to head for bed. Gnight folks, thanks LaserJock and good work as always ajmitch ;-) | 06:19 |
| seth_k | night bddebian | 06:19 |
| bddebian | Gnight seth_k :-) | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | goodnight | 06:19 |
| seth_k | http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/breezy/kmobiletools/ << I patched this to install its .desktop file to /usr/share/applications/kde, but it just will not show up in the K menu and I don't know why. | 06:22 |
| seth_k | after I can figure out this issue it gets to go on revu | 06:22 |
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| LaserJock | seth_k: have you tried taking out the X-KDE and X_DCOP lines? | 06:33 |
| seth_k | LaserJock, not sure, I've tried so many things... I'll try that now :) | 06:34 |
| seth_k | I think I just cheated off of kandy's .desktop file or something | 06:34 |
| seth_k | okay, changed and building | 06:35 |
| seth_k | cross fingers! | 06:35 |
| Amaranth | X-* things are extensions to the spec and shouldn't make a difference | 06:38 |
| Amaranth | seeing how kde and gnome both ignore keys they don't understand | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | seth_k: looking at http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s04.html it says that you could use just StartupNotify=true and I would think you would want OnlyShowIn=KDE | 06:38 |
| Amaranth | wrong | 06:39 |
| Amaranth | if these could possibly have any use at all in GNOME or XFCE do not use OnlyShowIn=KDE | 06:39 |
| Amaranth | kmobiletools.desktop doesn't have a Categories key | 06:40 |
| Amaranth | so kmenu doesn't know where to put it | 06:40 |
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| seth_k | yeah it does... at the bottom? | 06:40 |
| Amaranth | in your diff? | 06:40 |
| Amaranth | ah, ok | 06:41 |
| seth_k | removed the two X- lines, still not showing up | 06:42 |
| seth_k | I've verified that the file does exist at /usr/share/applications/kde/ | 06:42 |
| Amaranth | you ran desktop-file-validate on the final .desktop file? | 06:42 |
| seth_k | yes | 06:42 |
| seth_k | no output | 06:42 |
| Amaranth | dunno what to tell you, it should be showing up in the 'Utilities' menu | 06:43 |
| seth_k | I know :( | 06:44 |
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| seth_k | could it be an external bug? | 06:44 |
| seth_k | or is there some sort of update menus call I need to make in debian/rules ? | 06:44 |
| Lathiat | nope | 06:44 |
| Lathiat | but | 06:45 |
| Lathiat | your gnome-panel might suck | 06:45 |
| seth_k | I'm using KDE :P | 06:45 |
| Amaranth | it shows up here? | 06:45 |
| seth_k | ?? | 06:45 |
| seth_k | it shows up in your menu? | 06:45 |
| Amaranth | it shows up in gnome-menus and kmenu | 06:45 |
| seth_k | O__O | 06:45 |
| Amaranth | well, my simplified version of it (stripped translations) | 06:45 |
| Amaranth | let me try to install the package | 06:45 |
| seth_k | thanks, Amaranth | 06:46 |
| Amaranth | it is showing up here | 06:46 |
| Amaranth | with the package | 06:46 |
| Amaranth | in kmenu and gnome-menus | 06:47 |
| seth_k | wow | 06:47 |
| seth_k | so all this time | 06:47 |
| seth_k | it's just been my kde that sucks | 06:47 |
| seth_k | hmmmmm | 06:47 |
| Amaranth | it's in utilities | 06:47 |
| seth_k | that's another problem for another day I guess | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | Amaranth: would it be possible to have smeg put OnlyShowIn=KDE in the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/kde/ as sort of a "on/off" flag? | 06:47 |
| Amaranth | LaserJock: it puts NoDisplay=true | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | aww, ok | 06:48 |
| Amaranth | and/or uses an <Exclude>, i can't remember what pyxdg does now | 06:48 |
| Amaranth | i follow the spec, not some hack :p | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | does it do that for all of the kde files or do you have to manually pick each one? | 06:49 |
| seth_k | I wonder why it wouldn't be showing up for me... | 06:49 |
| seth_k | Amaranth, are you running Breezy? | 06:49 |
| Amaranth | it does that for every file | 06:49 |
| Amaranth | LaserJock: i don't touch files in /usr/share/applications/kde directly and i don't make a user copy with NoDisplay=true unless the user chooses to hide it | 06:50 |
| Amaranth | LaserJock: i don't make smeg systematically hunt for all KDE apps and hide them, that's stupid | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that makes sense | 06:50 |
| Amaranth | seeing how KDE users use smeg | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | I just thought it would be cool to have a KDE "on/off" switch | 06:51 |
| LaserJock | same would apply to Gnome apps | 06:51 |
| Amaranth | bleh | 06:51 |
| Amaranth | users don't care | 06:51 |
| Amaranth | real users, not biased developer-users | 06:51 |
| Amaranth | kde app, gnome app, whatever, as long as it works | 06:52 |
| seth_k | Amaranth, are you running Breezy or Hoary? | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | sure, that makes sense8-) | 06:53 |
| Amaranth | seth_k: breezy | 06:53 |
| seth_k | thanks | 06:53 |
| seth_k | still odd, but oh well :) | 06:53 |
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| LaserJock | heah Amaranth, I was wondering how did your hard drive overheated? | 06:54 |
| Amaranth | fsck | 06:55 |
| Amaranth | two HD sitting on top of each other and an auto-fsck | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | really? | 06:55 |
| Amaranth | stupid auto-fsck-after-30-mounts | 06:55 |
| Lathiat | heh | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | i hate that | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | what filesystem? | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | whatd rock | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | is online fscking | 06:56 |
| Amaranth | ext3 | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | like ufs on freebsd has | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | -> win | 06:56 |
| Amaranth | the partition table was gone | 06:56 |
| Amaranth | every tool i could find that would read it said it was a new drive | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | hmmm, I've heard of using dd to copy the contents of a disk when other tools can't read it, but I've never tried it | 06:58 |
| Amaranth | i had two choices: sit without a computer and no way of repairing it for a month or repartition | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | and when that month was up i'd be somewhere where i won't have internet access | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | not often, anyway | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | college sucks | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | no internet access at college? | 07:00 |
| Lathiat | hrm, our colleges tend to have rathert good internet access | 07:00 |
| Amaranth | they don't have dorms, i'm living with an uncle until i get a place | 07:00 |
| Amaranth | it's a community college thing | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | where? | 07:00 |
| Amaranth | sioux city | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | cool, I'm in Reno, NV | 07:01 |
| Amaranth | (google, only one of those in the US) | 07:01 |
| Amaranth | iowa | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | never been to iowa, I've stayed to the Rockies or west :-) | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | *shrug* | 07:04 |
| Amaranth | anyway, game time, bbl | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | yeah, time to go to bed for me | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | good night all and thanks for the info ajmitch | 07:04 |
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| cat | hey people | 09:53 |
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| siretart | hi folks | 10:19 |
| \sh | hey siretart | 10:20 |
| siretart | huhu \sh, nice to soo read you :) | 10:21 |
| siretart | s/soo/ *g* | 10:22 |
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| \sh | siretart: ah...I'm not trying to become mad ,-) right now I have too much workload here (!= ubuntu stuff) | 10:29 |
| siretart | oh, I feel with you. I had this the last 2 weeks :/ | 10:30 |
| \sh | siretart: and my result was: uploading a new version to main without a permission *peinlich* | 10:32 |
| siretart | \sh: well, daniels gave you permission, dind't he? | 10:33 |
| \sh | siretart: but not kamion or matt... | 10:35 |
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| \sh | hey ogra | 10:35 |
| Burgundavia | ogra, aside from ndis guid, what was the other tool your student was working on? | 10:36 |
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| jstr | hey guys | 10:53 |
| jstr | I want to join up and write code for you | 10:53 |
| siretart | jstr: cool! | 10:55 |
| siretart | jstr: any special in mind? | 10:56 |
| jstr | well thats it... i dont know | 10:56 |
| jstr | i really like using c | 10:56 |
| jstr | im an undergraduate comp sci student with no actual programming experience in the work place, however i have completed heeps of units in the field | 10:57 |
| siretart | well, we seldom do actual coding. more often, we package programs, and have to fix compilation errors from software, which doesn't built with newer compilers like gcc-4.0 | 10:59 |
| jstr | i have done units in C (in a UNIX environment), C++, to many java units :(, UML, project management | 10:59 |
| jstr | well, i know how to make MAKE files at least :) | 10:59 |
| siretart | :) | 10:59 |
| siretart | jstr: well, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | 11:00 |
| siretart | jstr: we really need every helping hand, there are tons of stuff to do | 11:00 |
| jstr | well im prepared to put in at least an 8 hour day a week for the rest of the year | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | we don't do so much programming as packaging | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | that's good | 11:01 |
| jstr | its just so when i graduate i have some nice things to write on my resume | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | not because you want to help the community? ;) | 11:02 |
| jstr | that aswell. | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | we do a lot of fixing packages that are broken, creating new packages, etc | 11:04 |
| jstr | i have never done anything like that before so it will be something new for me to learn | 11:05 |
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| sistpoty | hi all | 11:29 |
| janimo | hi sistpoty | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | hi sistpoty | 11:29 |
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| \sh | mmm | 11:51 |
| \sh | hmmm | 11:51 |
| \sh | I should create a new ejabberd package | 11:51 |
| \sh | some good new features | 11:51 |
| janimo | \sh did the voip goal for breezy get deffered? | 11:52 |
| janimo | Isee you were on the team initially | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | you'll have to pass the motu review gauntlet first ;) | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | janimo: I think so | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | there are a few deferred goals, sadly | 11:52 |
| janimo | that shtoom one was very appealing though.. | 11:52 |
| janimo | I guess upstream didn;t move fast enough | 11:53 |
| Lathiat | shtoom has a 2 second audio delay for me :\ | 11:53 |
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| \sh | janimo: yes...looks like...cause there r some issues twisted... | 11:54 |
| \sh | janimo: I tried twisted 2.x and shtoom but didn't work | 11:54 |
| Lathiat | \sh: it worked for me last check | 11:54 |
| Lathiat | always has really | 11:54 |
| Lathiat | for me anyway | 11:54 |
| \sh | Lathiat: I have to check it again | 11:55 |
| \sh | and I need to renew the SIP Express Router packages.... | 11:56 |
| \sh | remove the provided debian/ dir and create a new one | 11:56 |
| janimo | I think the voip goal also dependen on some central ubuntu.com ids for users which is not in place right? | 11:56 |
| \sh | janimo: first of all, there must be a running environment of software | 11:57 |
| \sh | janimo: then we can implement some things like single sign on | 11:57 |
| janimo | \sh I know, I meant it's not only the technical issues that deffered the goal | 11:58 |
| \sh | janimo: time, workload, ressources | 11:58 |
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| ajmitch | fun, new tomboy release out for tseng | 12:03 |
| \sh | janimo: yes | 12:04 |
| sistpoty | cu later | 12:05 |
| siretart | woah, revu backlog finally decreasing :) | 12:08 |
| Lathiat | yay | 12:08 |
| Lathiat | siretart: hrm, if i try to access the pingus .changes it gives a no permisison | 12:09 |
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| siretart | Lathiat: the changes file are not meant to be downloaded | 12:11 |
| Lathiat | heh ok | 12:12 |
| siretart | Lathiat: I should perhaps delete them, but then I cannot reimport them in case of failure | 12:12 |
| siretart | Lathiat: the problem is: uploads made by motus could be uploaded by anyone to ubuntu, since our keys are also in the ubuntu keyring | 12:12 |
| siretart | Lathiat: I don't want this | 12:12 |
| Lathiat | ah right | 12:13 |
| Lathiat | i see | 12:13 |
| siretart | Lathiat: e.g. I just uploaded qemu to revu to get it tested for real x86. I'm not sure if that package is ok, so I don't want to have it in universe right now | 12:13 |
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| ajmitch | argh, vegastrike dies | 12:26 |
| === ajmitch think it need a sync from debian | ||
| SloMoSnail | siretart: is the new ppc patch included with that qemu upload? (sorry, don't have much time atm... learning maths) | 12:33 |
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| siretart | SloMoSnail: I took the latest debian version which could be built in debian | 12:42 |
| siretart | for ppc, that is | 12:42 |
| SloMoSnail | siretart: wonderfull :) i'll test it on x86 and ppc in a few minutes | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | sigh, vegastrike FTBFS | 12:49 |
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| ogra | bah games... | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | ogra: they can be fun :) | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | also a waste of time | 12:57 |
| ogra | heh... yes...and the eat development tme :) | 12:57 |
| ogra | time | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | yes, I shouldn't do anything that would eat into MOTU time ;) | 12:57 |
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| SloMoSnail | siretart: builds fine on x86 | 01:00 |
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| janimo | siretart using gcc-4? | 01:04 |
| janimo | cause that does not work with qemu AFAIK | 01:04 |
| SloMoSnail | janimo: nope... it is build with 3.4 | 01:05 |
| janimo | I am looking now | 01:06 |
| janimo | built fine here on x86 | 01:12 |
| janimo | and installedd too | 01:12 |
| SloMoSnail | janimo: same for me... and on ppc it is built fine in a few seconds it seems ;) | 01:12 |
| janimo | on x86 it took about 5mins | 01:12 |
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| musicistaCont | i have a problem with kdevelop 3.2.0 code completion don't work only whit libstdc++ i make new PSC database but nothig what i have to do? | 01:21 |
| siretart | SloMoSnail: great, then I'll upload that qemu upload in a minute | 01:21 |
| janimo | easy way to clone a page in the wiki? | 01:24 |
| janimo | do a large page similar to an existing one so a new title basically | 01:24 |
| SloMoSnail | janimo: make a redirect... put just this in the new page: #REDIRECT OldPage | 01:25 |
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| janimo | SloMoSail thanks | 01:27 |
| janimo | slomosnail, I want to clone the page but then heab=vily modify it, I want a template, not just an alias | 01:35 |
| janimo | is your suggestion still valid? | 01:35 |
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| SloMoSnail | no... my suggestion was a plain redirect... no idea how you can achieve what you want... | 01:36 |
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| janimo | hmm there are templates but not for maininclusionreports as I want to write | 01:37 |
| janimo | wikis are primitive :) | 01:38 |
| SloMoSnail | just take one of the other maininclusionreports and copy the stuff ;) that's how i made mine... | 01:38 |
| SloMoSnail | what package do you want in main? | 01:38 |
| ajmitch | night all | 01:38 |
| SloMoSnail | gn8 ajmitch | 01:39 |
| sistpoty | gn8 ajmitch | 01:39 |
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| janimo | slomo, xfce4 & co | 01:39 |
| janimo | about 20-30 packages | 01:39 |
| janimo | I see edubuntu inclusion is nicely colored, I want that too :) | 01:39 |
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| DanielN | someone around? | 01:41 |
| SloMoSnail | hi DanielN | 01:42 |
| DanielN | hi to all first :) | 01:42 |
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| mbreit | hi all | 02:11 |
| Mez | what was the replacemtn for xlibmesa-gl ? | 02:11 |
| janimo | libgl1-xorg | 02:15 |
| janimo | apt-cache search xlibmesa-gl :) | 02:15 |
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| pef | hello | 02:21 |
| mbreit | hi pef | 02:21 |
| SloMoSnail | is this new gnome clipboard daemon already in breezy? and what is it called? | 02:24 |
| mbreit | SloMoSnail: do you mean gcm? | 02:27 |
| mbreit | http://gcm.sourceforge.net/ ? | 02:27 |
| Lathiat | isnt it integrated into gnome-session-manager or somethign | 02:27 |
| SloMoSnail | no idea... i heard gnome 2.12 would have some kind of clipboard manager ;) | 02:28 |
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| Amaranth | it does | 02:45 |
| Amaranth | gnome-clipboard-daemon isn't needed, it's been rolled into gnome-settings-daemon | 02:46 |
| Lathiat | right | 02:46 |
| Lathiat | as i thought | 02:46 |
| SloMoSnail | Amaranth: settings or session? | 02:46 |
| Amaranth | settings | 02:46 |
| SloMoSnail | hmm... session seems to be more natural to me ;) | 02:47 |
| Amaranth | i remember this because when the bugs were getting worked out it was dying all the time | 02:47 |
| Amaranth | and you lose your theme and everything when it dies | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | heh | 02:49 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 02:49 |
| Lathiat | SloMoSnail: yeh cept its not a session daemon :) | 02:49 |
| tseng | Lathiat: sneaking in my first rails app at work | 02:52 |
| tseng | Lathiat: :D | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | tseng: haha | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | tseng: cool | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | i havent had much chance to play with it lately | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | busy on avahi and stuff | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | now my address is whitelisted i can go about getting these packages uploaded i've been fixing | 02:53 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: can you upload the new cowbell from debian? ;) | 02:53 |
| tseng | no, but i can sync it | 02:53 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: mail elmo, request cowbell sync from debian | 02:53 |
| tseng | james.troup @ C.com | 02:54 |
| SloMoSnail | isn't it just james? | 02:54 |
| tseng | james.troup WFM | 02:54 |
| SloMoSnail | ok, you're right | 02:55 |
| SloMoSnail | done | 02:57 |
| mbreit | btw: what happened to the i386 buildd? did it build EVER package? or just the ones that failed the last time? | 02:58 |
| mbreit | and i am going to update the unmet deps list.... since i think that all the rebuilds on the buildd could have changed a lot | 03:03 |
| crimsun | A good number of those unmet will need to be given back yet again due to i386 buildd screwage, it seems. | 03:05 |
| mbreit | it seems that the buildd is still rebuilding everything... | 03:05 |
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| janimo | ogra do you know how can I steal EdubuntuMaininclusion page with minimal effort and use it a a template? | 03:25 |
| janimo | for xfce inclusion page | 03:25 |
| ogra | janimo, sure... | 03:25 |
| janimo | anything more intuitive than copy-paste the sources | 03:25 |
| ogra | janimo, but there also is a template page somewhere | 03:25 |
| janimo | could not find one with so many nice colors ;) | 03:25 |
| ogra | and a process description what is required and how to do it | 03:26 |
| janimo | I know the process but I wonder how do I say in the wiki: 'fork this page' | 03:26 |
| janimo | IOW edit the text inside the tables and leave the appearance | 03:27 |
| janimo | but a new copy not inplace over yours :) | 03:27 |
| ogra | click on a nonexistent report, change the url to your name and click on "create page" | 03:27 |
| janimo | yes but the new page will be blank w/o tables and other niceties | 03:28 |
| janimo | oh well | 03:28 |
| janimo | I guess I'll copy paste the source | 03:29 |
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| Amaranth | hmm | 03:38 |
| Amaranth | why doesn't muine just use inotify through gamin through gnome_vfs_monitor_add? | 03:39 |
| Lathiat | cus gamin sucks? :) | 03:41 |
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| Amaranth | .. | 03:45 |
| Amaranth | gamin doesn't suck, seb just didn't have the dependencies for gnome-menus setup right :p | 03:45 |
| Amaranth | ooh, that reminds me | 03:45 |
| Amaranth | gnome-menus 2.11.91 actually cleanly builds and runs on hoary, it's going into backports | 03:45 |
| Lathiat | heh | 03:46 |
| SloMoSnail | Amaranth: better question: why doesn't muine use gst, taglib or this c# tag-thingie to read the tags? and why has it the formats it can play hardcoded... now it can't play musepack although gst supports it... | 03:46 |
| Amaranth | no <Layout> (dunno why) but since the breezy package depends on libgamin-dev it actually fixes the autoupdating | 03:46 |
| Amaranth | SloMoSnail: it came before all of that :P | 03:46 |
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| pef | I've modified a home made deb package to be compliant with ubuntu, how should I submit it ? revu doesn't seems to be a good solution (no .diff) | 04:04 |
| pef | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=335 | 04:04 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: how have you created this package? dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa? then put the original source tarball in the parent directory (of the source directory) and name it kvpnc_0.7.2.orig.tar.gz | 04:06 |
| SloMoSnail | then you'll get a diff | 04:06 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: no, package made by the author | 04:07 |
| SloMoSnail | so the debian stuff was already in the upstream tarball? | 04:07 |
| pef | yes | 04:07 |
| pef | exactly | 04:07 |
| Amaranth | ick | 04:07 |
| SloMoSnail | wonderfull ;) | 04:07 |
| pef | :) | 04:08 |
| SloMoSnail | but then just do it as i said... should work ;) | 04:08 |
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| Amaranth | linda output is awesome | 04:09 |
| Amaranth | This package appears to conform to a newer Standards-Version that has been released. One of us is incorrect. | 04:09 |
| Lathiat | haha | 04:10 |
| DanielN | hrmpf | 04:10 |
| pef | Amaranth: I've set Standards-Version to 3.6.2 in debian/control | 04:10 |
| DanielN | isn't it possible to debootstrap breezy from hoary? | 04:10 |
| Amaranth | linda is kind of a bitch, someone must not have liked their wife/girlfriend/mother | 04:11 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: when you've uploaded the version with the diff against the upstream tarball i'll look at it... from the changelog your changes sound sane ;) | 04:11 |
| pef | nice :) | 04:11 |
| SloMoSnail | hmm... Recommends: vpnc | freeswan | 04:13 |
| SloMoSnail | better Depend on it... at least it seems to be needed at runtime, right? | 04:14 |
| Amaranth | oh no, not another one of those | 04:14 |
| Amaranth | apt-file's package is like that too | 04:14 |
| Amaranth | supposedly it's a feature, not a bug | 04:14 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: freeswan is only usefull if you work on a freeswan vpn, otherwise useless depend | 04:15 |
| SloMoSnail | Amaranth: hm what's it with apt-file? does it recommend curl although it needs it? ;) | 04:15 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 04:15 |
| Amaranth | curl or something else | 04:15 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: but i assume it doesn't work without one of these two... | 04:17 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: if freeswan isn't installed, only the protocol freeswan won't be available, but others yes | 04:18 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: and for copyright... it's GPL2 so change the path at the end to /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 | 04:18 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: but does anything work with it when neither freeswan and vpnc are installed? | 04:19 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: You can use openvpn :) I have to check this field more carefully | 04:20 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: but then you must have openvpn installed ;) that's exactly the problem... | 04:21 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: and maybe use dh_install instead of install for the desktop file... but that shouldn't matter much :) | 04:22 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: other than that i'm ok with this package | 04:22 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: I think putting Depends: openvpn | freeswan | foo, so the package can be used and all "protocol" packages as Suggest ? | 04:22 |
| SloMoSnail | what are protocol packages? | 04:23 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: openvpn, vpnc, pptpclient, freeswan (to use the protocol in the program) | 04:25 |
| SloMoSnail | ah ok... so a depend on one of those and a suggest for all of them? hmm, could be ok but better ask someone else for that | 04:27 |
| SloMoSnail | but just notice me when you've uploaded a new version... i'll look through it then and maybe you get a vote ;) | 04:28 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: I had the same problem with datakiosk (databases utility), does I must include all qt db drivers ? (sqlite, mysql, pgsql, ...) | 04:28 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: just have this problem to solve and it will be uploaded | 04:29 |
| SloMoSnail | for me it sound correct to depend on one of the possibilities (a | b | c | ...) and Suggest all of them (a,b,c,...) | 04:30 |
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| gary_ | Hi there - is it okay for me to bring up an issue with a universe package here? | 04:39 |
| gary_ | a missing dependency rather than a bug in the package, as such | 04:39 |
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| pef | gary_: what's the problem ? | 04:42 |
| gary_ | well I upgraded to breezy yesterday, and uim-common depends on (non-existent package) im-switch | 04:42 |
| gary_ | im-switch is in debian unstable and experimental | 04:43 |
| gary_ | I'd be happy to port the package, but I haven't reviewed the universe guidelines, and have only worked on packaging for one or two things before | 04:44 |
| gary_ | and it might be too late for breezy now? | 04:44 |
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| pef | how can I manage long debian/control fields ? (Suggests: longer than 80 characters) | 04:50 |
| Amaranth | pef: \n\t? | 04:51 |
| gary_ | pef: debian-installer has a Build-Depends 1021 characters long | 04:51 |
| Nafallo | siretart: ping | 04:52 |
| siretart | Nafallo: pong | 04:52 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: just make it as long as it needs to be... only for description there's a limit of 80 chars | 04:53 |
| pef | thanks :) | 04:53 |
| Nafallo | siretart: what to do with im-switch? bring in a new package tweaked for xorg? :-) | 04:53 |
| pef | gary_: I think you should fill a bug report on malone | 04:53 |
| Amaranth | gcc-4.0's build-depends line is 2181 characters | 04:54 |
| siretart | Nafallo: erm, sorry. what is im-switch? | 04:54 |
| Amaranth | and vlc build-deps on 56 (!) different packages | 04:54 |
| Nafallo | siretart: ahh, you wasn't following :-). uim is on UniverseUnmetDeps, uim-common deps on im-switch. im-switch is in debian but not in ubuntu and deps on xfree86-common :-). | 04:55 |
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| SloMoSnail | Amaranth: what about gst-plugins and mplayer? ;) | 04:55 |
| Amaranth | they don't come close according to this shell script written by a debian guy | 04:56 |
| Nafallo | siretart: the right solution would be to take im-switch from debian, modify and upload to REVU to fix uim? | 04:56 |
| siretart | Nafallo: does im-switch really need xfree86-common? I mean, can't the package be modified to work with xorg? | 04:56 |
| Amaranth | oh, gst-plugins0.8 is 51 | 04:56 |
| Amaranth | mplayer isn't in the top 10 | 04:56 |
| siretart | Nafallo: yes, that way we could have a look at it | 04:56 |
| Nafallo | siretart: oki, I'll see what I can do about it then :-) | 04:57 |
| Amaranth | vlc is tied with debian-installer | 04:57 |
| gary_ | Nafallo: im-switch works fine for me just with the depends on xfree86-common replaced by xorg-common | 05:13 |
| gary_ | Nafallo: and the postinst and prerm look safe enough with that dependency | 05:14 |
| Nafallo | gary_: oki, I'll upload to REVU then and hopes the acks from three other MOTUs goes quick ;-) | 05:15 |
| gary_ | Nafallo: thanks! I'm sure the other IM frameworks are good, I'm just used to that one. | 05:17 |
| Nafallo | gary_: np :-) | 05:17 |
| siretart | Nafallo: I think you just uploaded a native package, was this intentional? | 05:23 |
| Nafallo | siretart: seems to be native in debian, not sure if we should follow that? | 05:25 |
| siretart | ok | 05:25 |
| Nafallo | siretart: I'll see what the comments gives ;-) | 05:25 |
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| bddebian | Morning | 05:29 |
| \sh | grmpf | 05:33 |
| \sh | I wanted to go home..and now I'm sitting here and fixing eit streams for turkish dtv services | 05:34 |
| bddebian | Sounds fun :-) | 05:34 |
| bddebian | Hello \sh | 05:35 |
| \sh | it's bar ,-) | 05:35 |
| \sh | hey bddebian | 05:35 |
| \sh | it's a foobar situation | 05:36 |
| \sh | ok..next try to go home: -22 min | 05:38 |
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| bddebian | \sh: Isn't everything foobar? :-) | 05:40 |
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| pef | using cdbs, which target should I use to delete admin/config.(guess|sub) ? | 05:41 |
| pef | clean:: and cleanbuildir won't work | 05:41 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: :-) | 05:41 |
| pef | :) | 05:44 |
| \sh | delete ? | 05:44 |
| \sh | and then copy it back from /usr/share/misc? | 05:44 |
| pef | \sh: it's autotools temp files no ? | 05:45 |
| infinito | \sh: excuse me... i know i'm sooo tiring, but can u give any idea about howto get gcfilms synced?? | 05:46 |
| infinito | \sh: i've talked with elmo yesterday and he told me wiki was not the way to do it... | 05:46 |
| \sh | pef: autotools-dev | 05:48 |
| pef | infinito: I think the package needs a review before being integrated | 05:48 |
| \sh | pef: normally it's delivered | 05:48 |
| pef | \sh: I just want to delete them from my .diff.gz ;) another method than moving debian folder ? | 05:48 |
| \sh | config.{guess,sub} is in $(CURDIR)...you could backup the old ones, put the new ones during configure, and after installing you can put the old ones back in place | 05:50 |
| pef | \sh: I have them in curdir and in curdir/admin too | 05:50 |
| \sh | pef: kde stuff? | 05:51 |
| pef | \sh: yep | 05:51 |
| \sh | pef: hmm...u don't do a autogen.sh? | 05:51 |
| \sh | infinito: hmm.... | 05:52 |
| \sh | infinito: I'll try another way later this evening... | 05:52 |
| infinito | \sh: thanks a lot | 05:52 |
| infinito | \sh: feature freeze is tomorrow, so maybe we're on time to make it into breezy.... | 05:52 |
| \sh | infinito:hmmm | 05:53 |
| \sh | ogra: ping | 05:53 |
| ogra | \sh, ? | 05:53 |
| pef | infinito: feature freeze means no new packages into universe, too ? | 05:54 |
| \sh | ogra: feature freezy will affect universe as well as hard as main? | 05:54 |
| \sh | lol...freezy | 05:54 |
| \sh | breezy | 05:54 |
| infinito | pef: not sure... maybe im wrong | 05:54 |
| \sh | I'm really tired | 05:54 |
| koke | siretart: have you seen http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=319527 ? | 05:56 |
| koke | do you now if it already builds on breezy ppc? | 05:57 |
| ogra | i dont think we will handle it as serious | 05:57 |
| ogra | \sh, ^^ | 05:57 |
| koke | I can try this night at home | 05:57 |
| ogra | as well as we dont handle UVF as serious... | 05:57 |
| \sh | ogra: I'm really ashamed what happened yesterday with xterm...i was somewhere else with my brain and didn't think about upstream freeze *grrrr* | 05:57 |
| SloMoSnail | koke: the qemu version siretart uploaded today builds on amd64, x86 and ppc ;) | 05:57 |
| ogra | yup... i saw it | 05:58 |
| \sh | ok...another try to go home...later guys | 05:58 |
| koke | I must be blind :) | 05:58 |
| koke | I just looked at packages.u.c | 05:59 |
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| WaterSevenUb | is anyone here using firestarter? I need to confirm a bug... in outbound connection events tab, click with the right button of the mouse. In my case, appears the same options as in an inbound event | 06:02 |
| WaterSevenUb | at least using a translated firestarter.. not sure if the same happens in pure english. In other words, select "outbound event" - "select with right button of the mouse" , compare the options with those of an "inbound event | 06:02 |
| koke | WaterSevenUb: you can launch it untranslated running from a terminal | 06:06 |
| koke | LC_ALL=C firestarter | 06:06 |
| koke | or whatever the command is called | 06:06 |
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| WaterSevenUb | Ok... it doesn't happen in pure english. I've checked the PO file and the strings are correctly translated. What is happening? | 06:16 |
| WaterSevenUb | koke: in the translated firestarter there is the problem although the strings in the PO file are correctly translated. | 06:17 |
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| koke | WaterSevenUb: check it at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/firestarter/+pots/firestarter/pt | 06:18 |
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| WaterSevenUb | koke: ? (I am using that POT) | 06:21 |
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| WaterSevenUb | koke: and with that POT, the "outbound events" options behave like "inbound events" even the translation is correct for the strings of the "outbound events" options. | 06:28 |
| mbreit | hi guys | 06:32 |
| bddebian | Heya mbreit | 06:34 |
| mbreit | hey bddebian | 06:35 |
| sistpoty | hi mbreit | 06:37 |
| mbreit | hey sistpoty | 06:37 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 06:39 |
| mbreit | grr.... i hate those segfault on the buildds | 06:39 |
| mbreit | they prevent me from watching tv :( | 06:40 |
| bddebian | Heh | 06:41 |
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| pef | SloMoSnail: ping | 06:52 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: pong | 06:52 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: kvpnc uploaded http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=335 :) | 06:52 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: where's the diff? | 06:55 |
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| pef | SloMoSnail: wrong link, sorry http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=337 | 06:56 |
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| SloMoSnail | pef: maybe call dh_desktop at the end of install | 06:59 |
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| pef | SloMoSnail: right (It's my first cdbs package ;) | 07:00 |
| SloMoSnail | i wonder why the kde class doesn't call dh_desktop... the gnome one does... | 07:03 |
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| SloMoSnail | are the buildds broken atm? there are so many weird errors... | 07:05 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: reuploaded with dh_desktop? | 07:06 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: I have others comments in #kubuntu-devel ;) | 07:06 |
| SloMoSnail | ok ;) | 07:06 |
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| SloMoSnail | siretart: do you know what happened your liferea upload yesterday? i got the accept mail but it haven't reached the buildds yet... | 07:22 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: what are the remaining problems the kubuntu people found? | 07:29 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: things like s|/usr/bin||g in debian/menu, s/vpn/VPN (virtual private network)/ and others things making a package _very_ nice :) | 07:30 |
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| pef | SloMoSnail: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=338 | 07:30 |
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| SloMoSnail | ok, looks better ;) any other things remaining? | 07:32 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: I think no | 07:33 |
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| SloMoSnail | pef: but i have some... in the debian directory are some files which should be cleaned... for example the stamps | 07:36 |
| tritium | bddebian, hey man | 07:37 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: where ? I can't see theme here http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/kvpnc-0508101930/kvpnc_0.7.2-1ubuntu1.diff | 07:38 |
| SloMoSnail | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/kvpnc-0508101930/kvpnc-0.7.2/debian/ | 07:38 |
| SloMoSnail | omg... they're in the upstream tarball... | 07:39 |
| SloMoSnail | ok, then everything's fine ;) | 07:39 |
| bddebian | tritium!! Where you been man? | 07:39 |
| bddebian | tritium: All moved? | 07:39 |
| tritium | bddebian, dude, moving | 07:39 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: and I can't delete them from orig tarball :/ | 07:39 |
| tritium | bddebian, Yeah, we arrived in Albuquerque Sunday night. It'll be a few more days before I have broadband up. | 07:40 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: yeah... doesn't matter... ok, now lets see if this builds ;) | 07:40 |
| pef | I really have to go | 07:40 |
| bddebian | tritium: Ah, cool | 07:40 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: don't forget to add any comments to revu | 07:41 |
| tritium | bddebian, anyway, I'm at a coffee shop getting wireless for a few minutes. I got an email regarding your attempted upload. Did you fix it? | 07:41 |
| mbreit | pef: why do you put the desktop-file in debian/usr/share/applications/kde/kvpnc.desktop? | 07:41 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: don't worry :) when everything's fine you get a vote from me | 07:41 |
| SloMoSnail | mbreit: i wanted to ask this :P | 07:41 |
| bddebian | tritium: For which? | 07:41 |
| tritium | bddebian, python-pyrtf | 07:41 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I dunno if I saw that | 07:42 |
| mbreit | from debian/rules: mv debian/kvpnc/usr/share/applnk/Internet/kvpnc.desktop debian/kvpnc/usr/share/applications/kde/ | 07:42 |
| pef | the file is automaticaly copied to the right location | 07:42 |
| tritium | bddebian, from katie | 07:42 |
| mbreit | pef: you should put it in debian/kvpnc.desktop and move it in debian/rules to the right location | 07:42 |
| tritium | well, I need to get going here. I'll be in touch as soon as I can. Give me a few more days to get settled before I'm online more regularly | 07:43 |
| mbreit | debian/kvpnc should be deleted in the clean-target, so there shouldn't be any important files | 07:43 |
| bddebian | tritium: I just got whitelisted a couple days ago | 07:43 |
| tritium | ago :) | 07:43 |
| bddebian | tritium: Oh, enjoy :-) | 07:43 |
| SloMoSnail | mbreit: yes... and currently the original desktop file in src is copied over there... and not the one in debian/ | 07:43 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: are they the same? | 07:43 |
| tritium | bddebian, okay, have a good day. I'll be in touch soon. bye | 07:43 |
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| pef | SloMoSnail: no | 07:43 |
| mbreit | then it should just be deleted in clean... | 07:43 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: here they are the same ;) | 07:44 |
| mbreit | pef: otherwise it looks very nice... to bad that i have no voting rights on revu, you would get my vote besides that issue above ;) | 07:45 |
| pef | very proud to hear this :) | 07:45 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: i would suggest to just remove the desktop file from the debian directory... you aren't using it anyways ;) | 07:45 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: just solve this small issue and you get the vote | 07:45 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: (builds fine here) | 07:46 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: adding a rm desktop file to clean target ? | 07:49 |
| SloMoSnail | nope... just remove the debian/usr directory from the diff | 07:49 |
| mbreit | SloMoSnail: the desktop file should be deleted with the clean target... | 07:49 |
| pef | mbreit: rm -rfd debian/usr to clean target is ok ? | 07:50 |
| mbreit | pef: well, _should_ be, but better ask a motu with some experiences (i am not a motu) | 07:51 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: debian/usr isn't created by the build process... seems like you created it ;) just remove this directory from your diff and everything will be cleaned correctly | 07:51 |
| mbreit | oh, okay, i see | 07:51 |
| mbreit | i thought it was debian/kvpnc/... and that is generated during the build | 07:52 |
| mbreit | pef: believe SloMoSnail, he's right ;) | 07:52 |
| SloMoSnail | mbreit: yes... but cdbs removes this stuff itself while cleaning ;) | 07:52 |
| mbreit | SloMoSnail: that's the point which was striking me ;) | 07:53 |
| SloMoSnail | ok, fine :) now everybody is happy and i'll get something to eat :) brb | 07:54 |
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| SloMoSnail | re | 07:57 |
| mbreit | wb | 07:59 |
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| bddebian | wb SloMoSnail | 08:01 |
| SloMoSnail | hey bddebian :) | 08:03 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: I really have to go, will make the lasts changes tomorow morning :) | 08:03 |
| SloMoSnail | pef: no problem :) just send me a note when you've uploaded that version | 08:04 |
| pef | SloMoSnail: of course :) | 08:04 |
| mbreit | btw: pef, SloMoSnail: just a hint: md5sum ;) | 08:04 |
| pef | bye ! | 08:04 |
| mbreit | oh, forget it ;) | 08:04 |
| SloMoSnail | mbreit: you're just blind ;P the orginal tarball was bz2... this one is exactly the same with gz ;) | 08:04 |
| mbreit | SloMoSnail: yes, that was my problem ;) | 08:05 |
| mbreit | SloMoSnail: but anyway different packages | 08:05 |
| SloMoSnail | mbreit: i ran diff over them and they were the same | 08:06 |
| mbreit | but if i unzip them both, they have different md5sum | 08:07 |
| mbreit | so the tarballs are not the same | 08:07 |
| mbreit | maybe just repackaged.. | 08:07 |
| SloMoSnail | maybe... well i haven't tested that... i unpacked them completly and ran diff over the resulting directories | 08:08 |
| SloMoSnail | imho no problem | 08:08 |
| sistpoty | <- in method getFood() : undefined reference to fridge... | 08:19 |
| sistpoty | cya later | 08:19 |
| SloMoSnail | wahh... missed Mez :/ | 08:39 |
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| bddebian | SloMoSnail: There he is :-) | 08:46 |
| SloMoSnail | ...and there he goes... | 08:48 |
| bddebian | hehe | 08:48 |
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| danb | Is it too late for sane 1.0.16 to get into breezy? | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | libsane is in main, the cli tools are in universe | 10:34 |
| ajmitch | so you'd need to convince mdz/Kamion about libsane | 10:34 |
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| danb | ajmitch: what version of libsane is in breezy now? | 10:35 |
| danb | 1.0.15 or 1.0.15cvs? | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | the package version is 1.0.15-9ubuntu5, so I'd need to loko at the changelog to see if patches have been grabbed from cvs for it | 10:38 |
| danb | ajmitch: so you don't think its too late to get 1.0.16 in then? | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | maybe not, but you'd have to justify breaking the freeze for it | 10:39 |
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| danb | ajmitch: Could I upgrade just that package in Hoary, or would I have to update all of KDE to breezy just to get a new libsane? | 10:41 |
| ajmitch | I wouldn't know | 10:42 |
| danb | In fact I'm running KDE 3.4.2 ontop of kubuntu, if that helps? | 10:42 |
| ajmitch | you'd have to look at the dependencies | 10:42 |
| danb | aj: you running breezy? | 10:42 |
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| ajmitch | yes | 10:43 |
| danb | how (un)stable is it now? | 10:43 |
| danb | is it useable yet? | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | quite usable | 10:45 |
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