| lamont | doko_: btw, sid's buildd is totally clusterfied atm, too. | 12:38 |
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| lamont | same toolchain issue. | 12:38 |
| jbailey | doko_: lib64g2c0_3.4.4-6ubuntu4_i386.deb | 12:39 |
| jbailey | doko_: (Insert utf-8 thumbs-up icon here) | 12:39 |
| lamont | jbailey: any hints on the _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_ borkage issue?> | 12:40 |
| lamont | (hppa, although istr fabbione bitching about something similar on sparc...) | 12:40 |
| jbailey | lamont: Got something I can read about it somewhere? | 12:40 |
| jbailey | HAving a broken GOT would really suck. =) | 12:40 |
| lamont | uh, yeah. | 12:40 |
| lamont | for i in build/chroot-unstable/usr/lib/*.so.*; do x=$([ -f $i ] && objdump -T $i | grep _GLOBAL); [ -n "$x" ] && echo $i $x; done | wc | 12:41 |
| lamont | 25 200 2600 | 12:41 |
| lamont | that's a virgin-ish buildd chroot | 12:41 |
| lamont | just load current sid on an hppa box - then look at libz | 12:41 |
| lamont | or current breezy. | 12:41 |
| lamont | both are rather b0rked | 12:41 |
| lamont | build/chroot-unstable/usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 000234a0 g DO *ABS* 00000000 Base _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_ | 12:41 |
| lamont | jbailey: oh, and the best part is that it segv's fakeroot on 90%+ of builds. | 12:42 |
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| jbailey | Any idea when this started? | 12:44 |
| doko_ | lamont: breezy as well? | 12:46 |
| lamont | doko_: same issue | 12:47 |
| lamont | the fakeroot b0rkage is timed with gcc-2.3.5 going into the chroot | 12:47 |
| lamont | zlib is a wonderful test case, since it takes < 2 minutes to build on an a500 | 12:48 |
| doko_ | lamont: and we didn't notify this earlier? | 12:48 |
| lamont | doko_: it takes a while to notice the fatality of it all, since one object with it exported isn't fatal | 12:50 |
| doko_ | :-( | 12:51 |
| lamont | been trying to get attention on it for a few days now, but then it was just breezy that was broken, and noone cares about breezy/hppa.. :-( | 12:52 |
| lamont | but now that sid | 12:52 |
| lamont | 's broke.... | 12:52 |
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| jbailey | lamont: I need to hunt bdale down so that I can get my access on j5k restored. | 12:54 |
| lamont | bdale was mumbling about a hectic day today, tomorrow travelling, and thursday picking up the reigns on debian's buildd sigining for me (ia64/hppa) | 12:56 |
| jbailey | Hmm. thu-mon I'm travelling so I guess I won't sync up with him until next week. | 12:59 |
| jbailey | Thu I'll be online subject to the grace of wifi connections at the chicago airport. | 01:00 |
| lamont | ---Mutt: =buildd/universe [Msgs:1692/6648 New:6644 Post:3 341M] ---(subject/date)------------------------(1%)--- | 01:12 |
| lamont | there's something wrong with that picture | 01:12 |
| jbailey | That is 341MB for the mbox, not for the message, right? | 01:13 |
| lamont | right | 01:13 |
| lamont | that's the index page | 01:13 |
| jbailey | amd64 test glibc build going. | 01:46 |
| jbailey | infinity: If this works, I have some fun for you. =) | 01:46 |
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| infinity | jbailey : pong. | 05:42 |
| jbailey | infinity: Hey | 05:43 |
| jbailey | I thougt I was ready for the upgrade dance, but then I discovered that my glibc build had frozen (the testsuite doens't like my chroot) | 05:43 |
| jbailey | And then I reran it without -nc. | 05:43 |
| infinity | Sweet. | 05:43 |
| jbailey | So soonish, I'll have finished the testing. | 05:43 |
| jbailey | Unless you want to start now with the pieces that we know about either way. =) | 05:43 |
| infinity | I'll wait for you to be sure it's all good to go, then you can hand me the whole mess. | 07:31 |
| jbailey | infinity: 'k | 07:33 |
| jbailey | infinity: Found a slight bug in the final amd64 install (native) | 07:33 |
| doko | infinity: the OOo2 build did fail, because it couldn't find the archives? | 08:53 |
| infinity | doko : On i386? | 08:57 |
| doko | yes | 08:57 |
| infinity | That's a transient error that always results in an auto-give-back. | 08:57 |
| doko | so it's currently building? | 08:57 |
| infinity | It's building right now on rothera, and seems t obe doing fine. | 08:57 |
| doko | wow, finally :-) | 08:58 |
| infinity | Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on it. I'd kinda like to see it build. :) | 08:58 |
| jbailey | feh, stat spits out numbers in hex. | 08:59 |
| jbailey | I need them in decimal. | 08:59 |
| jbailey | Heya doko. I found one tweak that I needed to do in the amd64 native build. Testing the i386 biarch build and then I hand it to Adam. =) | 09:00 |
| jbailey | In about 20 minutes thanks to ccache. =) | 09:00 |
| jbailey | I think, anyway. | 09:01 |
| jbailey | Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. | 09:01 |
| doko | glibc biarch build? | 09:01 |
| jbailey | doko: right. | 09:01 |
| infinity | ccache and I are going to get married and have babies. | 09:03 |
| jbailey | infinity: Is that so you don't have to remember how? | 09:03 |
| infinity | See, if you could just take the high road for once and not go for the nerd interpretation... :) | 09:04 |
| jbailey | Mm, I suppose | 09:06 |
| jbailey | I wonder if I could detect a succesful ccache hit somehow and force make -j 500 after that? | 09:07 |
| infinity | watch ccache -s, see if the hits are going up, if so, clean and restart with -j 500?.. I dunno.. Ugly to automate it, easy to do by hand. | 09:29 |
| jbailey | Woot, looks good. | 09:39 |
| jbailey | sending her up. | 09:39 |
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| infinity | Where to? | 09:46 |
| infinity | And do you have nice instructions on what order this stuff needs to be bootstrapped in? | 09:46 |
| jbailey | infinity: The idea is that you fill the chroot with the pieces from all three, and then you should be able to just build it all. | 09:49 |
| jbailey | It's going into chinstrap:~jbailey/i386-amd64 | 09:50 |
| infinity | doko : I assmue the OOo2 build failure on amd64 is expected (or, at least, understood)? | 09:50 |
| infinity | jbailey : No particular order I should need to build them in? | 09:51 |
| infinity | jbailey : Since they're all ready to go, I guess that makes sense. | 09:51 |
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| jbailey | Right. =) | 09:52 |
| jbailey | All the build-deps will be satisfied already, you're just masturb^Wrebuilding them. | 09:52 |
| infinity | And the source packages are signed? | 09:54 |
| infinity | So once I've done the initial bootstrap, I can upload the sources and have them rebuild again? | 09:54 |
| infinity | (Not like I couldn't sign them myself, but I want all this stuff signed by you anyway, so I have a scapegoat if you root us...) | 09:55 |
| jbailey | Dude, if I root you, I'd be sure you never kne. | 09:56 |
| jbailey | +w | 09:56 |
| jbailey | It's not like a kernel root, where you might replace it with one you built yourself. | 09:56 |
| jbailey | Only insane people build their own glibc. | 09:56 |
| infinity | I always build my own custom glibc, yo, cause that's the l33t thing to do. | 09:57 |
| infinity | I turn on the sooper sekrit options. | 09:57 |
| jbailey | Dude. | 09:57 |
| jbailey | lamont told me that -pipe is a known optimisation that Ubuntu is using. | 09:58 |
| jbailey | Make sure to use *that* on your build. | 09:58 |
| infinity | I use -fno-slow-code, it really helps. | 09:58 |
| infinity | Does this need to be bootstrapped on all 4 arches, or is it just one or two that need by-hand love? | 10:00 |
| doko | infinity: yep, the build is missing a bit ... (exit 63) | 10:00 |
| jbailey | infinity: i386 only. | 10:00 |
| jbailey | infinity: amd64 migiht be tomorrow. =) | 10:00 |
| infinity | Alright, cool. | 10:00 |
| infinity | rsync? | 10:01 |
| infinity | paranoid about scp cutting out? | 10:01 |
| jbailey | rsync is apparently faster. | 10:02 |
| jbailey | I've read a number of rants about scp having buffering issues that somehow rsync over ssh doesn't have. | 10:03 |
| infinity | Interesting. | 10:04 |
| infinity | I have such shit upstream, and shit bandwidth/latency to the DC that I really wouldn't care or notice. | 10:04 |
| jbailey | I usually don't care, except that this takes so bloody long as it is, I can't bear to make it longer. | 10:06 |
| infinity | Heh. | 10:07 |
| infinity | jbailey : Where's the glibc? | 10:14 |
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| jbailey | infinity: Dude, gcc-3.4 ihasn't finished going up yet. | 10:14 |
| jbailey | karlheg: Hey! | 10:14 |
| jbailey | karlheg: I just pushed initramfs-tools 0.16 up. | 10:14 |
| infinity | jbailey : Hrm, I didn't see any rsync tempfiles... | 10:14 |
| infinity | jbailey : Still don't. So I kinda assumed you'd stopped uploading. | 10:15 |
| jbailey | karlheg: I still haven't integrated everything from you, I needed to push this stuff first. | 10:15 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 10:15 |
| jbailey | That ssh session appears to be hung | 10:15 |
| infinity | jbailey : And, you have stopped. At least, there's no rsync processes on chinstrap. | 10:15 |
| jbailey | In fact, Angie machine appears to be hang. | 10:15 |
| jbailey | No, just the network | 10:16 |
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| jbailey | infinity: See? Another good reason to use rsync. | 10:18 |
| infinity | Heh. | 10:18 |
| infinity | I fall back torsync when my first scp fails. :) | 10:18 |
| infinity | (which isn't often) | 10:18 |
| jbailey | Have network again. | 10:18 |
| jbailey | So it just sort of went insane. Lovely. | 10:18 |
| jbailey | I now have a ping running as well. | 10:19 |
| infinity | Dude, why are you sending the orig? | 10:21 |
| infinity | No wonder you complain about how long it takes. :) | 10:21 |
| jbailey | I thought I'd be polite and not make you fetch it. | 10:21 |
| jbailey | I'll remove them from the next ones. | 10:22 |
| infinity | Well, that's sweet of you, but still. ;) | 10:22 |
| jbailey | I was mostly complaining before because the session was hung, I think. | 10:22 |
| infinity | Yeah, I wouldn't complain if I had your upstream. | 10:22 |
| infinity | Looks to be, what? 1Mbit or so? | 10:22 |
| infinity | Mine's 256 kbps. | 10:23 |
| jbailey | A little less ;) | 10:23 |
| jbailey | Yeah, sucks to be you. | 10:23 |
| infinity | Thpt. | 10:23 |
| jbailey | But we were the first kids on the block with 1200bps modems too, so nyaah | 10:23 |
| infinity | Pfft, I revel in my oldskoolery with the 110 baud accoustic coupler in the closet. | 10:23 |
| jbailey | You still have yours? | 10:24 |
| infinity | Yeah. | 10:24 |
| infinity | Tossed most of the ones in between. | 10:24 |
| jbailey | Our 50bps and 110bps modems are barely at the edge of my earliest memories. | 10:24 |
| jbailey | I do remember the 300 clearly. | 10:24 |
| infinity | The coupler is somewhat of a novelty, so I kept it. | 10:24 |
| jbailey | "For novelty use only"? | 10:25 |
| infinity | My 300 was my first self-contained modem. FANY. | 10:25 |
| infinity | No phone required. | 10:25 |
| infinity | s/FANY/FANCY/ | 10:25 |
| jbailey | Our 300 would auto-answer (That's how we ran the bbs), but we had to use the rotary to dial in. | 10:25 |
| infinity | Then the 2400bps Hayes "smart" modem. Still not sure what was so smart about it. | 10:25 |
| jbailey | The AT command set. | 10:25 |
| infinity | Yeah, brilliant. | 10:26 |
| jbailey | Hayes sold two lines. | 10:26 |
| jbailey | And then the US Robotics 9600 SysOp deal. | 10:26 |
| jbailey | Everyone openning BBSs for a month so they could get a cheap modem. | 10:26 |
| infinity | I skipped 9600, but got a USR 14.4/16.8 Courier DST. | 10:26 |
| infinity | I was so l33t. | 10:26 |
| jbailey | Ah, I took a detour with the telebit trailblazer. | 10:27 |
| infinity | And then we upgraded the BBS to 12 lines, all with ZyXEL 19.2's, just cause we got a volume deal on them. | 10:28 |
| jbailey | Upside: Unlike hayes, it got the speeds that it claimed. Downside: Unlike hayes, noone else had one. | 10:28 |
| infinity | No one else had a 19.2, but like we cared, we were COOL. | 10:28 |
| jbailey | Creepy. What software? | 10:28 |
| infinity | TBBS. | 10:28 |
| jbailey | Ah, I did rbbs-pc and then.. | 10:29 |
| jbailey | maximizer? | 10:29 |
| jbailey | I can't remember what it was called. | 10:29 |
| infinity | Wow... TBBS.org... Neat... I had no idea anyone still used it. | 10:29 |
| infinity | Old fans die hard, I guess. | 10:30 |
| jbailey | infinity: Get better ago. | 10:30 |
| jbailey | amo | 10:30 |
| jbailey | Because you KNOW the g and the m are close on the keyboard. | 10:30 |
| infinity | Fat fingers. | 10:30 |
| jbailey | Reminds me. | 10:34 |
| jbailey | In Toronto you can get doughnuts delivered. | 10:35 |
| infinity | ! | 10:36 |
| infinity | Krispy Kreme? | 10:36 |
| infinity | If so, I'm moving. | 10:36 |
| infinity | doko : OOo2 on i386 looks successful. | 10:37 |
| infinity | doko : dpkg-shlibdeps really hates you, though. | 10:38 |
| jbailey | Yeah, KK | 10:41 |
| doko | infinity: great! | 10:45 |
| jbailey | infinity: W00h00 | 10:50 |
| jbailey | It should be there. | 10:50 |
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| doko | infinity: I'm unable to reproduce the failure of expect-tcl8.3 on i386. even the configure check on the buildd looks correct to me. | 04:27 |
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| doko | speeding up grep on amd64 by a factor of 40 ... | 05:16 |
| jbailey | doko: Eh? | 05:47 |
| jbailey | ccache for grep? | 05:47 |
| jbailey | =) | 05:47 |
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| infinity | doko : I can't reproduce it either, neat. | 05:48 |
| doko | infinity: so try again? | 05:56 |
| doko | jbailey: not exactly, but the debian patches seem to add something, what is not optimized by -O2 ... | 05:56 |
| doko | I did have to wait some minutes for grepping 600MB language data ... | 05:57 |
| infinity | doko : I am retrying them. Then again, it wasn't that long ago that they failed, so I don't have high hopes. | 05:57 |
| doko | infinity: ok, and what to do, if they fail again? | 05:57 |
| infinity | Dig deeper, I guess. | 05:57 |
| doko | infinity: so, I don't have access to the buildd :-) | 05:59 |
| infinity | Yes, I know. I'll look into it. Right now, I'm working on some bootstrapping issues. | 05:59 |
| infinity | And it's also 2am. :/ | 05:59 |
| doko | infinity: gcc/glibc? | 06:00 |
| jbailey | doko: It seems to have shown up with a symbol error on his build. I've asked him to paste it here in case it's something obvoius to you. | 06:01 |
| jbailey | Dunno why it didn't show up here. | 06:01 |
| doko | nice ... :-/ | 06:02 |
| infinity | http://people.ubuntu.com/~adconrad/ | 06:02 |
| infinity | That was building against Jeff's gcc and glibc. | 06:03 |
| infinity | I could try again against the glibc I just built, if that may make a difference. | 06:03 |
| jbailey | It ought not to. Those were all clean builds from yesterday using my own builds. | 06:03 |
| infinity | Well, yes, I was assuming it shouldn't make a difference, hence the not installing new packages between builds. | 06:03 |
| infinity | Was just going to build all three, install them all, then kick fresh rebuilds via wanna-build. | 06:04 |
| jbailey | Lemme do a test in my chroots with -lm | 06:04 |
| infinity | But. Y'know. Nothing's ever simple. | 06:04 |
| jbailey | Oh. | 06:05 |
| jbailey | *sigh* | 06:05 |
| jbailey | Symlink points to /lib. I thought I had fixed that. =( | 06:05 |
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| infinity | In glibc? | 06:06 |
| jbailey | Erm. | 06:06 |
| jbailey | Right | 06:06 |
| jbailey | But I've build gcc-3.4 with this glibc. | 06:06 |
| infinity | Toss me a patch, and I'll rebuild glibc. | 06:06 |
| jbailey | Oh, I know what happened. | 06:06 |
| jbailey | Hmm. | 06:07 |
| jbailey | I need to think about this for a sec. | 06:07 |
| jbailey | This was the fix for amd64 native. | 06:07 |
| jbailey | then I did a build test of i386-amd64 biarch | 06:07 |
| jbailey | Didn't rebuild gcc-3.4 after that. | 06:07 |
| jbailey | *sigh* | 06:07 |
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| infinity | Wasn't that supposed to be halfway there for breezy? | 06:07 |
| infinity | I was kinda surprised to see lib/lib64 popping up all over, personally. | 06:08 |
| infinity | I thought we really, really didn't want that. | 06:08 |
| doko | infinity: yeah, that doesn't exist on m68k ;-P | 06:08 |
| infinity | doko : Thpt. | 06:08 |
| doko | infinity: it makes ia32-libs a bit lighter | 06:09 |
| doko | gets rid off amd64-libs | 06:10 |
| jbailey | infinity: The problem isn't we don't have a better mechanism for handling biarch atm. | 06:11 |
| jbailey | I really have to wonder if ia32-libs can *actually* still be built atm. | 06:13 |
| doko | yep, you now have a build dependency on amd64-libs :-) | 06:43 |
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