[12:04] (1) bradb makes the bug page context-specific, and [12:05] (1) SteveA implements LaunchpadHierarchyNavigation so that the link to "gnome-screensaver" at the top is obvious instead of being stuff that people try to ignore because it's broken ~30 percent of the time [12:05] or (2), even [12:05] bradb: The existence of a FAQ generally means a fault in the design. [12:05] mpt: yup [12:06] cool [12:06] stub! [12:06] mpt: we're going full steam ahead into an impossible to discover how-to-assign-a-bug page, but sabdfl has accepted that for now [12:06] rock on! [12:07] mpt, bradb: this problem may be alleviated when we have context-specific bug pages. [12:07] the icon will make it better [12:07] kiko: right [12:07] we may convince the sab to eventually make the context-specific task more prominent or its data flickr-editable at some point [12:07] bradb: Can you insert some magic so that from the tasks-headline-whatsit I can get the task's priority? [12:07] mpt, task/priority? [12:08] bradb: e.g. tal:condition="task/priority/high" [12:08] oh [12:08] that's trickier [12:09] hmm [12:09] mpt: can it be solved by a more generic "task/priority/fmt:somehow"? [12:10] rather than a bunch of conditions in ZPT? [12:10] that's probably preferable [12:10] mpt: can you file a bug describing what you want and assign it to me? [12:11] ok [12:11] thanks [12:11] mpt, what are you trying to do? [12:11] Make the icon meaningful [12:12] there is an icon? [12:12] priority isn't listed in tasks-headline [12:12] interesting [12:13] bug-high.png, bug-medium.png, bug-low.png [12:13] right, i recently removed priority, which the sab strongly supported [12:14] of course, in the face of the severity vs. priority flamewar, there's bound to be people that think that's crazy to do [12:19] I see that priority makes sense when comparing bugs, not when viewing individual ones [12:20] it's marginally useful to see different priorities between tasks of a same bug, though [12:22] Merge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-76) [12:22] eh? [12:22] she's trying on the bikini now...the moment of truth... [12:23] kiko: marginally perhaps, yeah [12:23] Merge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: Performance improvement for browse.c: don't use arch_last_revision (patch-62: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr) [12:23] Neither of them are useful as long as they're being set to some default value when reporting a bug, though [12:24] Bah - sound is dead. Will need to reboot soon.. [12:24] mpt, agreed. [12:24] stub, made it back in one piece? [12:25] kiko: Barely. Erupting from both ends on a plane is not fun. [12:25] Sound is dead at 46, truly an American icon [12:30] stub, how did you get sick? [12:30] I thought you were okay on friday [12:34] bradb, can you make the mail wrap less (only wrap at 82 chars or so)? [12:36] kiko: If it is food poisoning, I suspect the Pizza Hut pizza at Sao Paulo airport (although Spiv ate it too and was fine). [12:36] stub, pizza hut in that airport is usually okay [12:37] mail should wrap at < 80 characters or text mode people will bitch (well.. they used to... only those Mutt ludites left now I guess) [12:37] I think I'm usually pretty resilient against food poisoning. Mary has gotten sick when I haven't, for instance. [12:38] the Canonical/Ubuntu conference curse.... === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-50-46.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:38] stub, hmmm, well, at the moment we wrap at 72 chars and that's wrapping too much (quoted text looks freaky). maybe 80 will be okay [12:39] That is about standard, so it can be quoted a few times and still look fine [12:39] (can we just not wrap the emails in question and let the client do it? Or will that look wonkier? [12:40] whoa, the bikini was a SMASHING SUCCESS [12:41] eh, i thought i was wrapping it at 80 already. /me goes to check. [12:42] yep, it appears to already be wrapping at 80. [12:43] bradb, why is it mangling my email responses :-( [12:43] mpt even filed a bug today [12:43] bradb, woot! [12:43] bradb: I knew it would suit you ;) [12:44] heheh [12:44] vive les montralaises [12:44] kiko: Why aren't we using format=flowed? === bradb looks for that bugmail [12:45] ok, pagetests passed, PQM notified, I'm outta here [12:45] kiko: where's the bug about the wrapping problem? [12:46] i found nothing limiting to "wrap" in mutt [12:46] The bug I reported was about something that got wrapped at about 20 characters, not 72 or 80 [12:47] what bug? [12:58] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Remove broken milestones breaking db patch (patch-2244: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) [01:07] (Pdb) release.name [01:07] u'sarge' [01:07] (Pdb) myrelease.name [01:07] u'sarge' [01:07] (Pdb) release is not myrelease [01:07] True [01:07] :/ [01:07] spiv: shouldn't the last bit be False? [01:08] Different distros maybe? [01:08] Well, what's release.id and myrelease.id, and type(release) and type(myrelease)? [01:08] nope, i don't even think they can be (AFAIK, dr name is globally unique0 [01:08] (Pdb) type(release), type(myrelease) [01:08] (, ) [01:09] that's why, i guess [01:09] !@*#!& [01:09] Ah. [01:09] i guess i have to use .id and ==/!= [01:10] Yeah. [01:10] thanks for the debugging help. /me goes to get dinner. will try to be back later to finish the sp bug listing. [01:12] bradb-bbl, mpt: I sent mail about the wrapping issue [01:27] where are located all the PO files in rosetta? can we get them via FTP or something? download them all for a specific language? [01:27] just visit the page for the template and download === mpt_ [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [01:29] kiko: I want.... all the templates :) [01:29] kiko: the idea was if I can't make a search for strings in Rosetta I could do it locally :) [01:32] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] add architecture icon; fix bug 1712 (GPG key interface confusing) (patch-2245: mpt@canonical.com) [01:38] I see [01:46] There are no pofiles in rosetta, just database tables. Many features of Rosetta would be impossible if it worked directly on the pofiles. The pofiles are generated on demand, and we don't have a place where you could download, for example 'all pofiles for all products and all sourcepackages and all distributions and all distribution releases as of yesterday'. I'm not sure if we could. [01:46] we could but it would be a major performance drag [01:49] aah, I understand... the only solution possible was to generate temporary packages available via FTP with the requested contents, which would be deleted after a while... for example.... [01:50] anyway, never mind :) thanks anyway. [01:50] Yup. We have to generate a snapshot when Ubuntu or a derivative is being released, but it takes a while ;) [02:30] stub: what happens to the templates that are not fully translated? Let us say... 99%... and other.... 40%. [02:37] zzz === SteveA [n=steve@adsl-213-190-44-43.takas.lt] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === camilotelles [n=Camilo@201.32.223.192] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #launchpad === _Rappy_ [n=hunt-pre@dsl-253-122.monet.no] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [08:57] morning === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === nakeee [n=nakee@barak013-104-246.dialin.huji.ac.il] has joined #launchpad [09:31] carlos: is there someone working on the rosetta bidi bug? [09:32] carlos: is there anyway I can contribute to make it's solution faster? [09:33] nakeee, The main issue is that we need to check that it does not break anything and adapt our database to flag the languages that need that kind of fix [09:33] nakeee, If you know about extra information about it (other than the link to the HTML standard), that would help us a bit [09:34] nakeee, anyway, we are moving to a bug fixing phase so I think we will fix it soon [09:34] well I can tell you hebrew and arabic needs it:) [09:36] check what GTK does to pick the global text direction [09:41] jamesh, do you mean to get that list? [09:41] check if the GTK po file translates "default:LTR" to "default:RTL" [09:42] that'll give a starting point of languages that use RTL as the global direction [09:42] or is this related to something else? [09:42] good idea [09:42] jamesh, no, it's just that [09:42] doing a quick grep, I see ar, az_IR, fa, he and yi [09:43] but GTK doesn't have translations for every language Rosetta knows about [09:46] jamesh, it should not be a problem, people can just ask us to activate it [09:49] btw I think the bug severity is higher than just normal since rosetta is hardly usable for mixed bidi sentances [09:49] and you see a lot of them when you translate arabic/hebrew:) [09:51] carlos: do we set the lang attribute on the text boxes? [09:52] jamesh, no, that's what nakeee is asking for [09:52] jamesh, and what this bug is about [09:52] carlos: he was asking about setting dir="RTL" where appropriate [09:53] jamesh, oh, is there a lang="" attribute? [09:53] I thought you were talking about dir... [09:53] carlos: I mean like lang="en-AU" [09:53] jamesh, I have only see the lang attribute globally to the page but not per text box.... [09:54] if your web browser contained a spell checker, it'd be pretty cool if it could pick the right dictionary when spell checking the text box ... [09:54] carlos: it is valid on any element [09:54] (same as dir) [09:56] carlos: it'd be worth setting lang="..." for the "similar language" translations too [09:56] for CJK languages, it could help the web browser pick the appropriate font [09:58] jamesh, didn't know about it [09:58] jamesh, and wouldn't the browser choose the right input based on that field [09:58] carlos: I don't know [09:58] that would require some testing [09:58] instead of being us who set it [09:59] nakeee, could you try it? [09:59] if that works the fix is easier [10:02] doesn't seem that lang="he" alone will give you RTL entry [10:05] carlos: also, the example of dir="" use in the HTML spec reads as follows: [10:05] ...a Hebrew quotation... [10:05] indicating that both are required [10:05] (or at least recommended) [10:06] also: "User agents must not use the lang attribute to determine text directionality." [10:11] carlos: it doesn't [10:11] yea what jamesh said:) [10:12] sorry was away chasing kids:) === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [10:49] hi everyone [10:58] SteveA, morning [11:03] hi carlos [11:03] how's it going? [11:03] jordi: will you be able to come to the launchpad meeting, in a few hours? [11:04] SteveA, fine, thanks [11:05] and you? [11:06] ver fine [11:06] very fine [11:06] except the typing ;-) [11:07] :-P === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-54-185.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:11] how can I represent an octal number in python? === stub [n=stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad [12:12] ok, found [12:12] hey stub [12:12] yo [12:13] stub: have you had a chance to glance an eye over the rework patch I mentioned yesterday? === camilotelles [n=Camilo@201.32.223.192] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad [12:18] Kinnison: patch? [12:19] stub: I asked you to cast an eye over daniel.silverstone@canonical.com--desktop/launchpad--rework-package-db--0 [12:21] SteveA: I'm afraid I'm busy. [12:21] I can try, but I can't say [12:22] jordi: if you can't make it, then give me your Three Sentences [12:22] hey... what will be the criteria for translations in Rosetta that are, let us say, done up to 99% and other only up to 20%? both will be used? [12:26] SteveA: gimme 5m [12:27] jordi: sure, any time before the meeting. [12:28] jordi: the three sentences are, one line each: DONE: (what you did over the course of the last week), TODO: (what you intend to do over the next week), BLOCKED: (anything that is stopping you from working effectively) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [12:46] jamesh: ping [12:46] SteveA: yes? [12:46] https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/mark.shuttleworth@canonical.com/launchpad--ongoing-20050801--0/filtered-diff [12:46] so, it looks like it is merged, but the pending reviews page doesn't know that [12:47] SteveA: the patch level is "base-0" [12:47] there are no changes on that branch [12:47] https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/mark.shuttleworth@canonical.com/launchpad--smallfixes-20050721--0/filtered-diff [12:47] that one is on patch-36 [12:48] also, both of these are in the 'needs-reply' section of the page [12:48] but, the tag on PendingReviews says 'needs-review' [12:50] mark.shuttleworth@canonical.com/launchpad--smallfixes-20050721--0 is listed twice (once in Andrew's queue and once in yours) [12:51] the non filtered diff shows two patch logs added (patch-35 and patch-36) [12:51] each of which are rocketfuel merges [12:51] aha. maybe you can add a "parsing errors" section to the page [12:52] to say things like "this appears twice" or "unrecognised status tag" [12:52] I put "unrecognised status tag" in an "unknown" section below all the others [12:52] ok [12:52] Kinnison: I've not had to drop constraints like that before to do table renames. I normally rename the table and then rename constraints afterwards. [12:53] but don't currently check for "this appears twice", since it is occasionally okay to appear twice (e.g. once in stub's queue and once elsewhere) [12:53] Kinnison: In particular, renaming the primary key sequence and resetting the DEFAULT on the id column, adding duplicates of the constraints with new names, and finally dropping the old constraints. [12:54] jamesh: okay [12:54] (But if it does the Job, no need to refactor) [12:54] stub: Hmm, yes, I haven't renamed the id sequences [12:55] stub, what's the status of the migration scripts? did they work? [12:55] carlos: still running [12:56] Kinnison: You can also use ALTER TABLE to rename indexes rather than dropping and recreating them in many cases (but again, if it is working no need to refactor) [12:58] stub, both? or you are testing only one of them? [01:00] carlos: 1.89 million rows scanned out of 5.5 million with the fuzzy flag one (I tweaked it to give meaningful status). And on production, we currently have over 10 million of them.... (we havn't synced the production db to staging for about a week) [01:00] carlos: Havn't run the whitespace one yet [01:00] carlos: So the fuzzy one has a day or so to run [01:02] This is on staging of course - I need the results confirmed there before attacking the production data. [01:03] back in a bit === Kinnison -> out [01:03] SteveA: I should be at the meeting unless my head explodes [01:04] okay [01:04] keep clear of those Scanners [01:08] stub, wow [01:08] so no language packs until next week, ok [01:10] Kinnison: non UNIQUE index names should end in _idx rather than _key. I expect we might want some UNIQUE constraints (possibly replacing an existing index or three on the way), for example, ensuring that a binary package does not get published twice in the same distroarchrelease [01:12] carlos: fwiw, it looks like almost all rows are being updated [01:12] stub, yeah, I will change it before the production run to optimize it [01:12] so if it's the same, we don't do the db update [01:13] that should speed it a bit [01:13] SteveA: [01:13] carlos: I suspect SQLObject does that for us [01:14] stub, hmmm, ok, then I don't need to change the code... [01:14] (but my output doesn't tell me that, so I can't see what percentage are actually being written) [01:14] DONE: reading rosetta-users, doing my first replies (after triple-checking with carlos ;), going over Rosetta, finding & filing bugs, basically getting comfortable with the interface; writing FAQ entries, etc. [01:15] stub, only breezy imports should be changing, and that's easy to check [01:15] TODO: start going through the import requests queue as soon as we're ready for that, continue writing FAQs from IRC/mailing list [01:15] stub, the problem is that if staging db is not in sync with production, the broken situation is not there as it came with latest breezy imports [01:16] so, anyway, the statistics would not be useful on staging [01:16] BLOCKED: some "No permissions" bugs in rosetta prevent me from editing series. Other similar bugs will probably be found as I try to do other operations. [01:17] carlos: So I need to resync with production to verify the script does what is intended? [01:17] so, until a new production upgrade happens, some things I can't do as a Rosetta Expert. [01:17] SteveA: I think that's about it. [01:17] stub, is easier to check it that way, yes, because looking at breezy statistics you can see if the problem was fixed or not [01:18] stub, the code changes as the fuzzy strings are showed as updated from Rosetta, after fixing the database, they will be back to the usual "green" colour instead of purple [01:45] thanks jordi === morgs is back from trying to sell his KIA === morgs weeps at how much an extremely unreliable korean vehicle can devalue in a single year === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #launchpad === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.141.233.250] has joined #launchpad [01:53] T MINUS 8 MINUTES [01:53] take a workrave now if you need to [01:55] /msg me any items for the meeting [01:56] stub: those will be interesting constraints on the publishing tables [01:56] stub: and as for names, I stuck with the names they had before. If you can tell me which you want renaming to _idx I can add those changes in when I do the sequence later today [01:58] Kinnison: The constraints are just a thought - we need to describe them in english first. Rename all the _key indexes to _idx, since they are not UNIQUE [01:59] morning [01:59] okay [02:00] Meeting time... [02:00] indeed [02:00] MEETING STARTS [02:00] who's here today? [02:00] me [02:00] me [02:00] yer === Kinnison waves === carlos is here [02:00] me === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:01] salgado: say "me" [02:01] it is TIME [02:01] me [02:01] me [02:01] me [02:01] me [02:02] i'll deliver apologies from: [02:02] - lifeless (vacation) [02:02] - keybuk (vacation) [02:02] - ddaa (vacation) [02:02] - daf (unwell) [02:02] - stub (unwell, but seems to be still here nonetheless) [02:02] - jordi [02:02] - cprov [02:02] - debonzi (university) [02:02] wow. Thats a lot [02:03] it's that time of year [02:03] let's have an agenda [02:03] I apologize for the sab [02:03] he's lost in the middle of porto alegre somewhere === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:03] mpt has a slow computer [02:03] kiko: he's like, not on the launchpad team any more ;-) [02:03] Yeah, it's running Ubuntu [02:03] mpt: say "here" [02:03] here!!!! [02:03] == Agenda == [02:03] - roll call [02:03] - agenda [02:03] - activity reports [02:03] - flu like symptoms... [02:03] - vacations: lifeless, stevea [02:03] - next dogfood / database update [02:03] - three sentences [02:04] [02:04] that was the first two items [02:04] I'm behind on activity reports, will reset on monday [02:04] (I need to travel tomorrow to help mark out) [02:04] I'm behind, I'll catch up today-ish === carlos is missing yesterday's report, doing it atm... [02:04] activity reports: who's the dude, and who's gonna take that gun, and put it up (etc.) click! [02:04] I'm behind. Need to send ones for the time since the sprint [02:04] IIRC, I'm up to date [02:04] click [02:04] dude === SteveA is behind, needs to send ones for tuesday and wednesday [02:05] I'm one day behind, but I'll definitely be sending both today. [02:05] up [02:05] I'm up to date since Brazil (although I think I may have a couple missing from just before Brazil). === BjornT_ is behind. will send them today, though [02:05] okay, people who are behind, make sure you start by sending TODAY's === Kinnison is up to date [02:06] it is more important to start freshly today, rather than worrying about the time since the sprint [02:06] i mean, send them too if you have them. but, make a fresh start for yourself today [02:06] spiv: you had an item about flu-like symptoms [02:06] Right. [02:07] As you probably all know now, I arrived in Brazil with chicken pox. [02:07] It's not much fun to get as an adult. [02:07] Incubation time is 2-3 weeks... so if you get flu-like symptoms this week or next, see a doctor. [02:08] Apparently if you get anti-virals early, it will be much less severe. [02:08] Enjoy ;) [02:08] flu-like is what? fever, feeling crap, ... ? [02:08] Fever, headaches, aches, tired, general crapness. [02:08] and some people get it twice [02:09] speaking of flus, did anybody figure out what a lot of people came down with after the whitewater trip? [02:09] possibly whatever jamesh had a couple days prior? [02:09] no idea, but scott had something with him when he arrived [02:09] I came down with a soggy passport [02:09] so, general crap sort throat virus thing [02:09] jblack: I think what I had was related to the yellow fever vaccination [02:10] it was pretty much gone in 24 hours [02:10] if you get ill with something, tell me, kiko, rob as appropriate, and also mail claire if you're going to be off work. [02:10] next item [02:10] - vacations: lifeless, stevea [02:11] so, rob is on vacation this week and next week [02:11] i'm going to be on vacation, and away from email, next week and the first half of the week afterwards [02:11] dates are on the StaffCalendar page [02:11] I'll be away tomorrow afternoon, but will pick it up [02:11] I'll be away tomorrow (apologies for the short notice) [02:12] kiko will be running the show, with help from stu while i'm away [02:12] aham [02:13] was that "amen" ? [02:13] where's the canonical wiki? seems really slow to me... [02:13] It was there 10 min ago, it's slow for me now... [02:13] everyone, please read https://wiki.canonical.com/TimekeepingPolicies [02:13] this is the company policy on things like taking leave, day-swapping, and such things. [02:14] Kinnison: so, if you want to swap half of tomorrow around, you need to talk with me or kiko to arrange it, after this meeting. [02:14] SteveA, remind me, did we complete satisfactorily the wiki transition? [02:14] SteveA: righty [02:15] kiko: from .br to .com ? [02:15] kiko: No, all the old changes are unattributed, and all subscriptions were lost [02:15] kiko: it seems to be working okay, and has updated content [02:15] kiko: salgado puloaded the whole wiki, software and data, to elmo. elmo put the data there, and maybe your scripts too. [02:15] mpt: that's the account changover issue [02:15] So if you were subscribed to PendingReviews (for example), go resubscribe :-) [02:15] kiko: can you check with elmo that things are as you need them? [02:15] separate accounts for moin auth and launchpad auth [02:16] kiko: also, we need to add a Copyright and trademark footer to the wiki. [02:16] so we do [02:16] any more points on the subject of vacations? [02:17] ok [02:17] - next dogfood / database update [02:17] Kinnison: dogfood? [02:17] SteveA: Hi, I've been doing dogfood pretty much on-demand these past few weeks [02:17] the last update was a couple of days ago [02:17] If people want a dogfood update, prod me [02:17] stub: production? [02:18] Tuesday, tagged from today unless anyone bitches otherwise [02:18] what's happening with that gina run? [02:19] Gina is blocked on GPG key suckage tool, which is blocked on lifeless getting back from holiday (unless someone else takes it on) [02:19] GPG key suckage tool? [02:20] Staging Gina runs should be happier when the staging server gets more disk [02:20] it works out things about duplicate people based on gpg things === SteveA waves hands a bit [02:20] stub: when is staging getting more disk? [02:20] okay [02:21] SteveA: elmo is on it I believe. I havn't asked him for an ETA yet. [02:21] jamesh: do you think you could finish this tool for lifeless? [02:21] jamesh, could you pick up the GPG suckage? === SteveA high-fives kiko [02:21] we roxor [02:21] stub: is it on the sysadmin requests page? [02:22] SteveA: has it been started? [02:22] jamesh: yes [02:22] (i.e. where is the code?) [02:22] lifeless was hacking on it in the evenings in brazil [02:22] i'll mail him about it [02:22] not yet === uws [I=uws@deus.et.tudelft.nl] has joined #launchpad [02:23] and cc jamesh and kiko [02:23] Is launchpad accessible for any OSS project? even the small almost-personal ones? [02:23] uws: sure. [02:23] uws: Yes. [02:23] uws, do it! [02:23] Yes, I started one that didn't even have any code until three days later [02:23] heh [02:24] mpt: slacker! ;-) [02:24] Okay, I'll take a look. I suppose I can ask Kinnison or someone else if I run into areas of GPG I don't know enough about === mpt cowers [02:24] thanks jamesh [02:24] okay, let's talk about code reviews. [02:24] any urgent ones that are outstanding? [02:25] SteveA, yes, the one I pointed out yesterday to you (smallfixes--4), and my person-edit branch [02:25] jamesh, it should be pretty easy; you have a good eye for security or privacy problems, and I think you'll find it fun [02:25] uws: for some context, the development team are having a team meeting at the moment, for the next 15 mins or so. you're most welcome to stick around. [02:25] salgado: i'm doing that right now [02:25] SteveA: I have two branches in your queue from like before the sprint [02:25] morgs: can you unconflict them please [02:25] SteveA, OK, will do [02:26] fine. i'm only here today and tomorrow, so do it soon [02:26] SteveA, I suppose that the code reviews will be done anyway next week, right? [02:26] andrew, james, salgado and bjorn will still be doing reviews [02:27] ok [02:27] I can do some too [02:27]

is outside the (outside the , even) [12:03] inside the td the portlet ended up really high up, IIRC === bradb restarts lp to demo [12:04] you could special-case it, if you wanted [12:05] anything to make it work sounds good [12:05] well, /almost/ anything :) [12:05]
OMG WHAT A HACK

OMG WHAT A HACK

is outside the (outside the , even) [12:03] inside the td the portlet ended up really high up, IIRC === bradb restarts lp to demo [12:04] you could special-case it, if you wanted [12:05] anything to make it work sounds good [12:05] well, /almost/ anything :) [12:05] OMG WHAT A HACK

OMG WHAT A HACK

is outside the (outside the , even) [12:03] inside the td the portlet ended up really high up, IIRC === bradb restarts lp to demo [12:04] you could special-case it, if you wanted [12:05] anything to make it work sounds good [12:05] well, /almost/ anything :) [12:05]
OMG WHAT A HACK