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| Burgundavia | lovely | 03:57 |
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| rob^ | mmm weightwatchers chips | 03:57 |
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| rob^ | dam wife | 03:57 |
| jsgotangco | ok lets just make it a quickie | 03:57 |
| mgalvin | lets get it on | 03:57 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 03:57 |
| jsgotangco | ok who's here | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | docteam meeting, is it? | 03:57 |
| === jsgotangco Jerome Gotangco | ||
| Burgundavia | might as well introduce a new member, Madpilot (my brother) | 03:58 |
| === mgalvin is Matt Galvin | ||
| jsgotangco | ajmitch, yeah, just a quickie | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | ok | 03:58 |
| === rob^ is Robert Stoffers | ||
| === ajmitch re-lurks | ||
| === Burgundavia is Corey Burger | ||
| === jeffsch is Jeff Schering | ||
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| jsgotangco | are you brothers? | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 03:58 |
| rob^ | man we could open our own burger shop here | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | alright, we'll have a quickie meeting | 03:59 |
| Madpilot | rob^: very original... ;) | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamMeetingAgenda isn't useful at the moment so let's make it free flowing | 03:59 |
| rob^ | mmm maccas | 03:59 |
| Burgundavia | docteam projects? | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | any updates on your projects | 03:59 |
| Burgundavia | mgalvin, rob^ faqguide? | 03:59 |
| rob^ | ok | 03:59 |
| mgalvin | i started spliting it up into pieces to make it easier to work with | 04:00 |
| mgalvin | a lot of the content is done | 04:00 |
| jsgotangco | mgalvin, good idea | 04:00 |
| rob^ | I'm about to start 2 12 hours shifts in about 6 hours time. during which I'll have nothing to do | 04:00 |
| rob^ | my guess is at the end of those there wont me much left to do with the guide before release | 04:00 |
| mgalvin | once i get my shinny new laptop i will verify the java install stuff for amd64 and will have all that java stuff worked out | 04:00 |
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| jsgotangco | mgalvin, rob^ will we have enough time to proofread the doc before freeze? | 04:01 |
| rob^ | dam it I wish someone would buy me a laptop | 04:01 |
| jeffsch | which parts of faqguide content still missing? | 04:01 |
| rob^ | jsgotangco, yes, it should be finished soon | 04:01 |
| mgalvin | rob^: we should probably finishs splitting it up first to make this easier | 04:01 |
| rob^ | jeffsch, nothing really, just needs going over | 04:01 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, when is our freeze? | 04:01 |
| Burgundavia | Sept 8 | 04:02 |
| mgalvin | i am buying my own laptop :(, i should have joined the laptop team | 04:02 |
| Burgundavia | UI freeze is Aug 25th, so don't start taking screenshots before then | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | ok so we have less than a month to finalize and qa the doc to be shipped | 04:02 |
| rob^ | mgalvin, which parts do you want then? | 04:02 |
| rob^ | yep | 04:03 |
| mgalvin | what was that agenda page again? | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamMeetingAgenda | 04:03 |
| rob^ | as I said before, in the next two to three days I'm going to be giving the faq guide a lot of love | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | guys, this is only a lightning meeting, let's keep it quick so if it can be done via list, let's do it there | 04:04 |
| rob^ | it may be finished within a week maybe.. | 04:04 |
| Burgundavia | what are thoughts on faqguide as default Yelp homepage? we don't really have many other docs to ship | 04:04 |
| rob^ | I'm open to it | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | sure, but consider the other docs | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | Gnome docs | 04:04 |
| rob^ | thats right | 04:04 |
| Burgundavia | they are old | 04:04 |
| Burgundavia | and not really useful, to be honest | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | they're going to be included | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | unless they remove it in the default install | 04:05 |
| jsgotangco | which is unlikely | 04:05 |
| Burgundavia | they can be there, we just don't have to link to them | 04:05 |
| rob^ | who has the final say on it? | 04:05 |
| Burgundavia | consensus | 04:05 |
| mgalvin | are we going to grab the latest upstream gnome docs for inclusion? | 04:05 |
| Burgundavia | there is nothing happening there | 04:06 |
| mgalvin | they may be more up 2 date, although i have not looked yet so not sure | 04:06 |
| Burgundavia | upstream gnome | 04:06 |
| mgalvin | k | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | mgalvin, it should have gone during freeze, but nothing is happening in gnome doc | 04:06 |
| mgalvin | right, ok | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | so in a way, Burgundavia is right, they are old docs | 04:06 |
| Burgundavia | 2.6 is last major work | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | but that doesnt mean they're not useful anymore, just not updated :) | 04:06 |
| rob^ | that sucks | 04:07 |
| Burgundavia | they will do more harm than good I think | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | i was looking into the help files of some gnome games last night and they are indeed old | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | pre 2.8 | 04:07 |
| rob^ | maybe we can just have them listed under our docs in a smaller font etc.. | 04:07 |
| jeffsch | perhaps a request for help with the docs should be on the front page too :-) | 04:07 |
| rob^ | jeffsch, good idea | 04:08 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 04:08 |
| mgalvin | sounds good to me | 04:08 |
| jsgotangco | sure but they are upstream docs in the first place | 04:09 |
| Burgundavia | shall we move on and move this to the mailing list? | 04:09 |
| rob^ | probably | 04:10 |
| mgalvin | yea | 04:10 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 04:10 |
| jeffsch | jsgotangco: doesn't matter... [eo[le don't have to help the doc team in order to help the docs | 04:10 |
| jeffsch | er, um, people even | 04:10 |
| Burgundavia | QuickTour: worked started at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickTourDraft . Any comments are always welcome. See the todo at the bottom | 04:10 |
| Burgundavia | jdub gave jsgotangco and myself good feedback last night | 04:10 |
| mgalvin | cool, i think we definitely NEED this | 04:11 |
| Burgundavia | going to nail down the structure and then move to svn | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i did a self brain dump on this last night | 04:11 |
| rob^ | it looks pretty good | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | i'm going to spam that wiki page later | 04:11 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 04:11 |
| rob^ | wish we had if for our next installfest on software freedom day | 04:11 |
| mgalvin | did anyone every hear from that person who was making that doc that looked like apples mac os x marking pages? | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | we can make it a printable pdf why not | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | should be ready in english | 04:12 |
| rob^ | it even.. | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | Softare freedom is sept 10. All writing must be done by the 8th | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | About Ubuntu is in the bag and may just need some minor updating | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | edubuntu cookbook? | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | gyahh | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | ok this is a cram project at the moment | 04:13 |
| rob^ | yeah, but it will be for breezy, horay will still be the current released version then | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | the cookbook should have a visible structure by this week | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | and some important parts from tuXlab imported | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | other than than, we;ll wait for the preview CD | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | most of the contributors are educators anyways | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | and all ubuntu docs will go into edubuntu | 04:14 |
| rob^ | what is edubuntus target audence? | 04:14 |
| rob^ | primary school/high school kids? | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | learning environments in a networked lab | 04:14 |
| rob^ | I'm biting at the bit to try it out | 04:15 |
| Burgundavia | any other projects? | 04:15 |
| mgalvin | ubuntu-docs deb | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | packaging? | 04:16 |
| mgalvin | did anyone see my email, yea? | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | i did | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:16 |
| === rob^ checks | ||
| jsgotangco | but packaging is not my forte | 04:16 |
| mgalvin | i got it working already | 04:16 |
| mgalvin | not committed yet | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | a deb file? | 04:16 |
| mgalvin | yea | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | enrico is our debian and he is whitelisted to upload | 04:17 |
| mgalvin | er, the rules and stuff | 04:17 |
| === ajmitch can check over any packaging stuff also | ||
| rob^ | holy crud you cut sick on the faq guide recently mgalvin | 04:17 |
| mgalvin | i didn't upload the package, i just modified the rules and such to make it work | 04:18 |
| Burgundavia | mgalvin, you will work on that and chat with ajmitch if needed? | 04:18 |
| mgalvin | sure | 04:18 |
| Burgundavia | any further projects? | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | wait | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | so what is shippable at the moment | 04:19 |
| mgalvin | rob^: i started splitting it up to make each section easier to work on | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | FAQ Guide | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | Quick Tour | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | About Ubuntu | 04:19 |
| jsgotangco | Anything else? | 04:19 |
| rob^ | I haven't had time to look at it the last two days | 04:19 |
| Burgundavia | is the faq guide profiled for kubuntu? | 04:19 |
| === mgalvin hopes he didn't stomp on any of rob^s work | ||
| rob^ | yes and no | 04:19 |
| Burgundavia | has that been worked on? | 04:19 |
| rob^ | yes and no | 04:20 |
| jsgotangco | wish we had the people working on kubuntu here as well | 04:20 |
| rob^ | I have a feeling the kubuntu faq guide wont be ready for breezy | 04:20 |
| jsgotangco | might as well bug them on the list | 04:20 |
| mgalvin | the profiling is there, we need to get the rest of the kubuntu content into the guide | 04:20 |
| rob^ | time will tell I guess | 04:20 |
| mgalvin | there is not much kubuntu stuff in it atm | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | ok understandable they have not been active even lately | 04:21 |
| rob^ | mgalvin, will you be working on the faq guide in the next 48 hours? | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | wait | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | Style Guide | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | jeffsch? | 04:21 |
| jeffsch | unless anybody has something to add to it, then it's done for now | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | have you proofread it already? | 04:22 |
| jeffsch | after I do some editing on our current docs, I will have a better idea of what it should contain | 04:22 |
| mgalvin | its almost time for bed here so feel free to go nuts on it... i may do a little tomorrow, but if you do a lot i will hold off a little | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | ok we can probably release the Style Guide to the world then? | 04:23 |
| rob^ | mgalvin, its just that I'm about to start 2 12hour shifts where I can work on it but I dont have access to svn to commit | 04:23 |
| jeffsch | well, the docteam world, anyway :) | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | jeffsch, its ok at least we reached a milestone | 04:23 |
| mgalvin | rob^: ok, i'll leave it alone for the next 48hrs, go nutz ;) | 04:24 |
| rob^ | only windows nt boxes and notepad | 04:24 |
| rob^ | thanks :) | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | so i guess we freeze styleguide for now and publish it? | 04:24 |
| mgalvin | np | 04:24 |
| jeffsch | jsgotangco: sure | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | alright anyone in favor of releasing the style guide | 04:24 |
| mgalvin | is it alright with everyone if I commit the packaging changes i have for now | 04:24 |
| rob^ | yeah | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | ok anything more | 04:25 |
| rob^ | yes | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | i'll bug the list about the linode thing | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | seems to have stagnated | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | its in my ToDO anyeays | 04:25 |
| rob^ | whats the go with ubuntumagazine.com? | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | its still in flux on whoever is heading it | 04:26 |
| rob^ | zarul shahrin keeps bugging the list about it | 04:26 |
| Madpilot | is that going to be a "real" printed mag, or an ezine/pdf thing? | 04:27 |
| jsgotangco | we can't blame him, he seems to be eager about it but time will tell | 04:27 |
| rob^ | but he seems to know nothing about web authoring | 04:27 |
| jsgotangco | let's wait and see | 04:27 |
| mgalvin | Madpilot: he said it may go to print | 04:27 |
| rob^ | yeah | 04:27 |
| rob^ | well, if his paying :) | 04:27 |
| mgalvin | on the web/pdf at first | 04:27 |
| rob^ | hes | 04:27 |
| Madpilot | interesting... | 04:27 |
| jeffsch | ok, are we done with the meeting? | 04:28 |
| Burgundavia | ok, if there is nothing else, this meeting is done | 04:28 |
| rob^ | I'm happy | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | err | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | wrong channel | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | anything more | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | this is good for a quickie | 04:28 |
| mgalvin | all set here | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | i'll just email the list | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | alright, thanks everyone | 04:29 |
| Burgundavia | rob^, mgalvin one of you to want to email the list about yelp/front page? | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | next meeting, i'll juse send via email | 04:29 |
| rob^ | operating-joke.png? | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | rob^, cookbook | 04:29 |
| rob^ | yeah | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | its a fun book | 04:29 |
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| rob^ | just doing a svn up now | 04:29 |
| Burgundavia | that correct? | 04:29 |
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| jsgotangco | 14:00UTC | 04:30 |
| mgalvin | rob^: can you take that, i gotta commit this stuff and hit the hay | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | ok that's 12PM on mine | 04:30 |
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| rob^ | mgalvin, ok np | 04:30 |
| Burgundavia | sorry about the spam | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | but horrible on rob^ 's side | 04:30 |
| Burgundavia | 14:00 is 7 am for me | 04:30 |
| rob^ | 1400z is 2am here | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | see | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | we cannot satisfy everybody | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | edubuntu meetings are at 12:00 utc | 04:31 |
| rob^ | no wait.. | 04:31 |
| rob^ | 10am is 1200z | 04:31 |
| rob^ | 10am + 14 hrs | 04:31 |
| rob^ | midnight | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | ok, lets get of -meeting | 04:32 |
| jsgotangco | ok adjourned | 04:32 |
| rob^ | i dunno | 04:32 |
| rob^ | nah it 2am | 04:32 |
| === rob^ is dumb | ||
| jsgotangco | its 2am | 04:33 |
| jsgotangco | 14UTC is midnight for me | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | rob^: nz? | 04:34 |
| rob^ | au | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | then it'd be midnight, I'd say | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | since nz is utc+12 | 04:34 |
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| rob^ | yeah your right | 04:35 |
| rob^ | 10am + 14hrs is midnight | 04:35 |
| Burgundavia | guys, the log is filling up | 04:35 |
| Madpilot | there are good time-conversion websites out there - there may even be something lurking in Ubuntu repos... | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | apologies, I thought the meeting was over | 04:36 |
| Burgundavia | it is, but this channel is logged all the time | 04:36 |
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| Burgundavia | mhz, please turn that off | 06:26 |
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| mhz | what do you want me to turn off? | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | the away notifications | 06:26 |
| mhz | I can do that. why are they "not permitted"? | 06:27 |
| mhz | or annoying | 06:27 |
| Burgundavia | they are very annoying | 06:40 |
| Burgundavia | and they fill the logs | 06:41 |
| mhz | ok, no idea they were annoying | 06:45 |
| mhz | I'll try to kepp that on mind while I am here | 06:45 |
| Burgundavia | turn it off in #edubutu as well | 06:46 |
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| Treenaks | oops | 08:39 |
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