=== paolo [n=paolo@adsl-ull-216-235.42-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] Hi! darcs is broken because of the cpp migration: could you build satisfying: libgmp3 now renamed libgmp3c2 ? [12:31] paolo: no, we can't just rebuild it due to other build-depends [12:31] ghc6 needs to be fixed before we can rebuild darcs [12:32] unless I'm mistaken, ghc6 isn't done yet [12:32] ajmitch, fixed in what ways. [12:32] I mean "?" [12:32] aww, too bad. OK :-( [12:32] fixed, in that it doesn't build [12:32] and it build-depends on itself [12:33] Hmm, ubuntu has 6.2.2... [12:34] ajmitch, are there any hopes to get 6.4.1 for the time it is released? [12:34] upstream version freeze was a month ago, so there'd need to be reasonable justification [12:35] I see that 6.4 was in debian 2 months ago, so it may be possible [12:35] ajmitch, it would be great, IMO. [12:35] But it is not a reasonable justification :-) [12:35] sorry.. 6.4 source is in ubuntu.. [12:36] hi [12:36] Ah, cool. Do you mean I could compile it and darcs on my workstation, from ubuntu packages? [12:36] 6.4 is the one that is not building [12:36] hello tseng [12:36] ajmitch, is there a place to see what's wrong with it? === SEBest [n=chatzill@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/ghc6/6.4-4/ [12:38] hmm, looks like the current ghc6 *may* fulfill the build deps for darcs === ajmitch tries [12:40] Cool! === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] sorry, that won't work.. [12:45] so we do need to get ghc6 fixed & building before darcs can build [12:45] Thanks for trying [12:45] I wish I could help [12:49] paolo: I think that once 6.4.1 is released, we'll put it in [12:49] since it appears to solve the gcc 4.0 problems with 6.4 [12:50] ajmitch, that's the best news of today, and today just started 50 mins ago here :-D [12:50] :) === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [n=tseng@tseng2.ath.cx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pete [n=omega@ua-83-227-176-123.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-243-240-53.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487FD09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rem_ [n=rem@adsl-98-40-zh1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maydaytx [n=maydaytx@cpe-66-68-96-131.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === jamessan [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax7-159.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-219.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] ah, looks like the f-spot changes for sid will need synced for breezy === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-68-238-174-159.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CC44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] hello [08:09] morning [08:09] hello [08:10] ajmitch: ping === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-102-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] siretart: pong [08:11] what have I broken? [08:11] ;) [08:17] ajmitch: nothing ;) [08:17] ok, about ghc6 then? [08:17] ajmitch: I just wanted to ask about the status of ghc6, I read something in the backlog ;) [08:17] ah right [08:17] well 6.4.1, when it comes out, is meant to build with gcc 4.0 [08:18] ah, I thought either debian or you already have packaged the preview release [08:19] and then still the package will have to be bootstrapped by the buildd admins, if I got it right, but compiling is a premise ;) === cat [n=bla@unaffiliated/cat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] no, debian still has 6.4-4 [08:19] but we can borrow packages from there to get 6.4.1 building, if needed [08:19] hey [08:19] hello cat [08:20] if i want to help around with ubuntu what can i do? [08:20] you want to help with packaging? [08:20] sure i will love to [08:20] well we've got a lot to do ;) [08:20] cat: woooho, great! :) [08:20] mostly fixing existing packages [08:20] such as? [08:20] sometimes creating new ones [08:20] wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps [08:21] wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo [08:21] cat: we still have tons of work in universe to do, like these UnmetDependencies [08:21] well i can help around by rebuilding the packages [08:21] cat: there is still a lot of work for any level of difficulty ;) === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === HostingGeek [N=m00@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] well [08:23] i can star some where (: [08:24] rebuilding packages is fairly basic, we just get the source & semi-autobuild them [08:24] so what can i do [08:24] for example any ideas ajmitch ? [08:25] the unmet deps page has a number of packages that need done - a few of them need packaging changes [08:26] can u point me to one? [08:26] if it's possible === jsgotangco [n=jgotangc@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] sorry, I don't know just by looking at the package name [08:32] Just Need A Rebuild [08:32] This list are packages that just need a rebuild and have been verified/tested by either an MOTU or those of us wanting to be MOTUs. [08:32] that? [08:32] no, those are ones that we will upload [08:33] then i'm los t=) [08:33] I mean the 'These need love' section, taken by NOBODY [08:33] oh ok [08:34] so if i wanted to take over a packaged what do i do? [08:34] just rebuild it? [08:34] or what? [08:35] these are packages that don't install properly due to missing dependencies [08:35] so get the source, try build it [08:35] PL [08:35] see if the packages install [08:35] Ok for example i want to build sawfish [08:35] when i'm done with it what do i do? [08:36] if it builds & everything is correct, note that in the wiki [08:37] ok === cat [n=deb@unaffiliated/cat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] ok i'm back with debian [08:41] why debian? [08:45] never mind, I have to leave [08:45] bbl === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@wblv-146-214-69.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [n=ghe@193.146.157.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@wblv-146-214-69.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=Natja@116-210.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c151197.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=mitsuhik@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae_ [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-68-238-174-159.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rem__ [n=rem@adsl-141-183-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [n=danten@h87n8c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === DanielN [n=daniel@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] SloMo_: hi, I've uploaded the last (I hope) correction of my package http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=341 [11:16] hi guys :) [11:16] hi DanielN, hi pef [11:17] DanielN: I hope you don't take my comments to openttd in revu personally.. [11:17] I hope noone takes my comments personally ;) [11:17] :) [11:19] I wonder if I've got enough diskspace for building all these unmet deps packages :) [11:19] siretart: hi, which parameters do you use in REVU for lintian/linda ? [11:20] pef: -v [11:21] siretart: I run it and don't have same results as on revu [11:22] siretart: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=341 in local I don't have the error [11:22] lets see [11:22] pef: I run lintian on the changes file, how do you invoke lintian? [11:23] in the deb file :) [11:23] ah [11:23] <\sh> fixing kwave [11:23] thats intresting, too, it catches other errors, then [11:24] <\sh> morning guys :) [11:24] siretart: the file it complains about is the diff file in debian/patches, right ? or it is another problem ? [11:24] \sh: hi [11:25] pef: I understand lintian complains about this file: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/kvpnc-0508111115/kvpnc-0.7.2/debian/files [11:26] morning [11:27] siretart, oh no not at all :) === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487FD09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:28] siretart: I haven't any idea where this file comes from :/ [11:28] DanielN: if you really want openttd, I think you should collaborate with the debian guys already working on it. we can sync that afterwards into ubuntu [11:29] baobab is moderately useful for identifying junk to cleanup :) [11:30] pef: what files? [11:31] SloMoSnail: I don't know, it's an error reported by lintian/linda [11:31] siretart, it's important for me, cause i don't play it [11:32] but i just wanted to help blathis, the guy how created the debian package [11:32] not important i mean [11:33] SloMoSnail: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=341 [11:33] pef: ah... just remove debian/files and maybe also remove the stamps and the substvars file... they will be deleted by the diff then... [11:35] SloMoSnail: they are in the orig.tar.gz :/ [11:36] pef: but they don't belong there ;) so just delete them and they will get deleted by the diff [11:39] SloMoSnail: in the clean target ? [11:40] pef: yes... but afaik cdbs should already handle that... [11:41] SloMoSnail: theorically for config.{guess,sub} too, but it seems not to work [11:42] pef: so just do it by hand ;) [11:43] siretart: do you know what happened to the liferea upload? simply disappeared it seems... [11:43] SloMoSnail: I was afraid to miss something, but if it's a cdbs "feature", it's ok [11:48] has no one a debootstrap script for breezy? [11:52] my debootstrap is happy with a breezy target... [11:54] <\sh> ogra: ubuntu-express? ubuntu on a usb stick? [11:54] nope... live installer [11:54] \sh: installing ubuntu from the livecd [11:55] <\sh> ah...so i need to invent ubuntu for an usb stick ,-) [11:56] \sh: not hard to do :) [11:56] SloMoSnail: adding rm -f debian/files to clean target doesn't changes anything [11:56] d-i has run from usb for quite awhile [11:57] <\sh> ajmitch: nice I don't have any clue how to do it...I mean, I can build a gentoo live cd with everything, but not an ubuntu usb image ,-) [11:57] <\sh> ok...lunch === kezz [n=kezz@user-561.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [n=ghe@193.146.157.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [n=ghe@193.146.157.2] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === Nikopol is now known as Nikopol_eating_l === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] can I do something for new upstream versions in main, like http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10890 ? or must I wait ? [12:54] re [12:55] SloMoSnail: you don't talk about this one, do you: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=324 [12:55] yes... this one [12:59] anyone around ?? === pete [n=omega@ua-83-227-176-123.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] <\sh> jesus [01:10] <\sh> I got my laptop [01:11] <\sh> claire was sending out the email to me, that I will receive it around the 17th...but it came today [01:12] \sh: what laptop did you get? :) [01:12] <\sh> toshiba portege r200 [01:13] <\sh> small...slim... [01:13] <\sh> lightweigt (1.2kg) [01:13] <\sh> 12.1" [01:13] <\sh> no cdrom/dvd [01:13] setting up breezy badger as main webserver here at the office :P [01:13] <\sh> 512mb [01:13] damn [01:13] nice [01:13] i want one of those :\ [01:14] <\sh> bluetooth, wifi, irda, usb, sd cards, bla bla [01:14] im hoping for somethign small [01:14] i'd love a 12" [01:14] <\sh> english keyboard layout [01:15] "Couldn't download libiw27" [01:15] broken package? [01:15] \sh: friend of mine has one of those [01:15] there very nice [01:17] oh well, thats 1 12" i wont be getting. :) [01:17] heres hoping from an ibm x41 or dell x1 :P [01:18] ok ok [01:18] i'm in wrong chan === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] that or an amd64 laptop would be nice [01:20] but i dont think any major vendors make those :) [01:22] Lathiat: HP does [01:22] jbailey_: yeh? [01:22] well maybe then :) [01:22] Lathiat: They're not mobile CPUs, though, so they're quite hot and hard on the batteries. [01:23] But I was looking at one a few months ago. Decided not to spend the $1200CAD =) [01:23] well [01:23] athlon64s tend to be coolish compared to most desktop cpus [01:23] but yeh [01:23] i wouldnt expect any more than 2 hours battery === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.141.233.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] <\sh> ok..now I have to setup my other notebook to serve as a LocalNetworkJumpstart Server ,-=) === comadreja [n=comadrej@pdpc/supporter/active/comadreja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mbreit [n=mo@p5487418E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] tseng: ping === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] MOTU OF THE WORLD [02:12] UNITE [02:13] :) [02:13] kiko: :-) [02:13] dyslexics of the world [02:13] UNTIE [02:14] you slackers [02:14] where's ogra the ogre? [02:14] kiko: ogre is my server :-) === ogra yawns in a corner [02:14] hey kiko [02:14] ogra! [02:15] I want to introduce to you rbelem [02:15] :) [02:15] hi rbelem [02:15] he's a hacker from manaus whom we met on saturday [02:15] ogra, hi ;) [02:15] he's done packaging work and even has a couple of packages prepared to push into the revu process [02:15] can you or someone else give him some assistance [02:15] rbelem, yay, go ahead.... [02:16] rbelem, first get an account from siretart [02:16] hi rbelem :) [02:16] then you can upload your stuff to revu for reviews [02:16] rbelem, do you know the process to become a motu... [02:16] ? [02:16] :) great [02:17] ogra, ah, so siretart assigns revu accounts? [02:17] ogra, i was reading the wiki, i understand i little bit [02:17] its on his server .... [02:18] SloMoSnail, hi :) [02:18] rbelem, start with creating a wikipage about yourself... describe who you are and what you work on (and plan to work on) in ubuntu... [02:18] morning guys [02:19] you will need to become a member first... this page is the base of all approval from the two councils, so make it nice :) [02:19] ogra, i created, but only a link to my page at ubuntu-br.org. I'll transfer the things from there [02:19] yup.... [02:19] thats a good start :) [02:21] ogra, I see that i need to mail my key to siretart [02:21] if you have made a valuable contributon of any kind (howto wikipages, creating artwork, fixing/building packages etc...) you sign the code of conduct, send it to mako@canonical.com and put a link to your page on the CommunityCouncilAgenda [02:21] rbelem, yup [02:22] you should show up in the meeting and will get approved as a member.... [02:22] ogra, cool ;) [02:22] ogra, when will be the next meeting? [02:22] the next stop after this already is MOTU ;) [02:23] look on wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar [02:23] 16th IIRC [02:23] rock! I was right :-) [02:24] uau it's so closer [02:24] you said it man [02:24] :) [02:26] ogra, I'll follow these steps now [02:26] oki... [02:26] just hang around here in the channel, if you got questions etc nearly everyone can help you in here :) [02:27] tseng: muine uploaded without changes. needed a rebuild due to new dbus. [02:31] uau... it's very nice to meet you, and if i got questions i'll ask for your help [02:32] yeah :) [02:34] <\sh> actually u can ask everyone here, we're all nice :) and friendly :) but ogra looks much better then anybody of us *eg* [02:34] lol [02:35] :D [02:35] *grin* [02:35] not today though [02:35] <\sh> ogra: well...I only said it, cause I think you will be jealous when u see this small, thin little baby here ,-) [02:36] <\sh> ogra: I think I will give it back...cause it's to small for my fingers [02:36] heh [02:36] but handy... you can take it everywhere [02:37] <\sh> ogra: and the other isp guys are waiting that I'm leaving my place...they want to grab it directly from this desk now... [02:38] heh [02:38] get a ball and chain for it :) [02:38] <\sh> ok..just preparing to launch my localnet ubuntu hoary install [02:38] <\sh> ogra: it has a fingerprint reader ,-) I hope it will work on hoary ,-) === dionysus [n=dionysus@220-245-247-116-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] bionic fingers ;) [02:41] <\sh> ok...just cutting my network now...i [02:41] <\sh> to install ubuntu [02:41] okay, now i _really_ need some help with dh_makeshlibs now! [02:41] mbreit: just ask [02:42] SloMoSnail: you now the problem... [02:42] s/now/know/ [02:42] libicq2000? [02:42] compiling ickle against libicq2000c2 but it depends on libicq2000 [02:43] mbreit: fix libicq2000 debian/rules :-) [02:44] Nafallo: what's wrong there? [02:44] /var/lib/dpkg/info$ cat libicq2000c2.shlibs [02:44] libicq2000 3 libicq2000c2 [02:44] mbreit: let me get the source [02:45] and that _seems_ right to me, but i have no idea how dh_makeshlibs work ;) [02:45] mbreit: try makeshlibs with -V"libicq2000c2"... but the shlibs file looks ok for me so no idea... === Seveaz [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] SloMoSnail: i looked at other libxxc2 packages, and they called makeshlibs without -V... as well.... [02:47] mbreit: i know... but it doesn't work as it is now ;) that's just a wild idea, don't know whether that works... i'll look at it further after the math exam tomorrow when you haven't fixed it until then [02:48] SloMoSnail: thanks... [02:55] hmm [02:56] mbreit: do we need ubuntuX on libicq2000? [02:56] Nafallo: i don't know... i have not touched that package [02:56] doko: ping [02:56] mbreit: pong [02:57] doko: you know https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates ? [02:57] doko: cause it says that i am working on a spe package ;)) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] mbreit: then you surely know the Debian report #268101 and sent a followup on the report? [03:00] hey doko [03:00] doko: oh, i did not know that ;) [03:00] we got a question when we were doing a talk in brasilia [03:00] the kid asked why the new kde packages in breezy ended in c2 [03:00] kiko: only one? ;-P [03:00] doko: well, it does not really matter cause i have just started ;) just have a look at the list next time *g* [03:00] mark was surprised at it :) [03:00] we got several but this one was particularly interesting [03:00] kiko: C++ ABI version 2 [03:00] kiko, only the libs... [03:01] who is Rodrigo Belem? [03:01] yeah, I know [03:01] siretart, rbelem [03:01] I'm presenting him [03:01] hacker from the amazon [03:01] siretart, me :) [03:03] mbreit: maybe you can add a link to http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp ? [03:04] doko: i don't think i can do that, but it would definitly be a good idea ;)) [03:05] doko: and it was my fault not having a look there, so sorry ;) [03:05] mbreit: I think you can do that (ogra?) [03:06] doko: ?? === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] err ? [03:12] whats worng ? [03:15] ogra: hi [03:16] hey pef [03:16] ogra: can I bother you about a packaging problem ? [03:17] sure [03:18] SloMoSnail, Nafallo: adjusting dh_makeshlibs in debian/rules in libicq2000 did not help... [03:19] ogra: I don't know ho to resolve this lintian's error http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/kvpnc-0508111115/lintian [03:19] pef: the files one? just remove debian/files as i said this morning ;) [03:20] yes, as SloMoSnail says [03:20] SloMoSnail: this file is only on .orig.tar.gz [03:21] you can ignore the two errors on the top [03:21] pef: then remove it from debian/rules clean target [03:21] ... remove it IN the debian/rules clean target... [03:22] mbreit: have add rm -f debian/file to clean:: target, but dpkg-source says : dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file debian/files when I make dpkg-buildpackage [03:24] uh? hmm... but the lintian-error remains? [03:24] yep === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] Howdy [03:25] hey bddebian [03:25] Morning mbreit [03:28] mbreit: a problem with cdbs . [03:28] ? [03:29] pef: i don't know... i have to pass your question to some other motu [03:29] s/some other motu/some motu/ ;)) [03:29] :) === mae__ [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko___@dsl-084-059-090-111.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] hey ogra [04:17] hey rbelem [04:18] ogra, i started to create some packges [04:18] ogra, and some meta-packages... [04:18] aha :) [04:19] rbelem, the first is muse muse.dyne.org [04:19] ops [04:19] ogra, which will be called muse-streamer [04:20] ogra, because already a package called muse which is a sequencer === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] ogra, then i see that i have to do some changes in the package, like name [04:21] ogra, add ubuntuX as a suffix [04:21] you should also always check the source and binary packages with lintian [04:22] that depends... [04:22] you normally only add ubuntuX to packages that come from debian and you made a ubuntu specific change [04:23] ogra, :) this package is not in debian yet [04:23] you should also always build the package ina pbuilder (see PbuilderHowto on the wiki) [04:23] So get it in Debian first, then call us.. ;-P [04:24] even more important, if debian wants to adopt it, they can grab it as is and just recomplie... [04:24] bddebian: you mean in 2 months? ;) [04:24] bddebian, nah [04:24] SloMoSnail: Yep, sounds about right ;-P [04:25] no need to wait for debian, just get it in ubuntu and give somebody at debian a hint :-) [04:25] I WAS KIDDING.. Man you people need to grow senses of humor. :-) [04:26] ogra, i mailed the upstream developer and he said that is very cool and I can upload to ubuntu after that to debian if i want [04:26] that was a pretty subtle hint then [04:27] rblesure, up to you.... [04:27] rbelem, ^ [04:28] ogra, he cc the the filippo@debian.org [04:28] ogra, he plans to upload muse to debian at the next upstream release [04:29] ah... [04:39] ogra, there are another changes to do in package that comes from debian? and there is another software called darksnow, a front end to darkice, that i want to package... === Hosting-Geek [n=m00@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F85C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=Natja@116-210.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hosting-Geek [n=m00@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hosting-Geek [n=m00@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] re === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] pef: this is a problem with the upstream tarball... so mail the author to remove this stuff... as it is removed by clean atm you probably can ignore this warning [05:39] SloMoSnail: if it's removed by clean, why this warning ? I don't understand [05:42] because it isn't deleted by the diff for some reason... the ignoring deletion of debian/files warning before creating the diff [05:42] ok, contacting the author seems to be the clever way :) === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F85C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] SloMoSnail: debian/{files,stamp*,kvpnc.substvars}, do you see anothers useless files ? [05:49] a program not yet packaged, will be integrated to Debian once uploaded to universe ? [05:49] pef: give me the url again [05:50] http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=341 [05:50] pef: and no... when it's in ubuntu someone has to get it into debian... that doesn't happen from itself :( [05:50] SloMoSnail: like a review ? [05:51] pef: well... the *.cdbs-orig files are useless...and the ones you said [05:51] pef: no... you have to find someone who sponsors your package, some debian developer... and i don't think this package gets accepted by one with this source tarball ;) [05:52] dirty tarball :/ [05:52] but the author has to release a new version, or simply delete the useless files ? [05:53] a new version would cause less confusion... when he just releases a new tarball with the same version the md5sums change and some people (at least the gentoo users) will get mad ;) === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] SloMoSnail: I think he will delay this cleanup to next release to avoid confusions, but I'm not very enthousiastic to wait weeks or months [05:59] pef: well ask ogra if it's ok for him to ignore this warning in this case [06:00] ogra: ping === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] is it a NEW package ? [06:04] ogra: it is [06:04] yes, i've made modifications to the home made deb package provided by the author [06:06] hmm, then you should ask elmo, he's the last person who looks at it and the one who counts for NEW approvals [06:07] ogra: can you add a comment to my package ? === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] i havent even an account :) (i must fix that for the next review day...) [06:12] ogra, SloMoSnail : so for you this package is ok ? [06:13] i'd lke to see the actual package you talked about... when i looked in revu the rm in the clean target wasnt there ... [06:13] pef: except the upstream tarball it's ok for me ;) [06:14] ogra: I can upload it now if you want [06:14] hmm, is dirac correct in -doc depending on -dev? [06:14] pef: isn't it uploaded? http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=341 [06:15] Nafallo: no idea... but what do you want to do with the docs when you don't have the dev-stuff? [06:15] SloMoSnail: there is no the rm in the clean target (but since it's useless, is it really important ?) [06:15] SloMoSnail: read them on my laptop while I has the actual packages on my server for example :-) [06:16] Nafallo: hmm... so what is the regular way for doc packages? Suggest or Recommend the -dev? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] Moved desktop file from usr/share/applnk to /usr/share/application [06:17] pef, the missing s is a typo i the changelog i hope :) === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] ogra: of course :) [06:18] its good... take it as signed from me [06:18] thank you :) [06:19] SloMoSnail: postfix-doc suggests postfix, apache2-doc count on the users intelligence :-). [06:20] Nafallo: ok, i'll change it to a Suggest then ;) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-219.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] pef: you got a vote from me ;) [06:22] SloMoSnail: ah. nice. didn't realised you owned the package :-) [06:22] SloMoSnail: btw, dirac doesn't need libdirac0 installed? [06:22] Nafallo: funnily it doesn't... it's compiled in statically [06:23] SloMoSnail: thank you ! I had to upload a new version to correct a type s/application/applications/ in debian/changelog [06:23] Nafallo: don't ask me who had this idea... [06:23] SloMoSnail: I was just about to ;-) [06:24] Nafallo: well... when it's changed later the dependency gets pulled in automatically ;) [06:24] SloMoSnail: :-) [06:24] Nafallo: ok, new dirac uploaded with the change... other than that the package was ok for you? [06:26] SloMoSnail: yepp [06:28] SloMoSnail: you're on amd64, no? [06:29] nope... ppc and x86 [06:29] SloMoSnail: then I rebuild it here just for fun :-) [06:30] good idea... as amd64 tends to collaps on everything ;) [06:30] hehe [06:30] built before the -doc change so... ;-) [06:33] SloMoSnail: perfect synchronisation :D [06:33] pef: thanks ;) === doko [n=doko___@dsl-084-059-090-111.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] Nafallo: thanks :) maybe we get this and gst-plugins-multiverse in at the next review day ;) [06:43] SloMoSnail: that's why I looked at dirac ;-) [06:45]