[12:14] <robitaille> mpt I do
[12:16] <mpt> robitaille: Would you recommend getting a Colony CD and installing updates from there, or getting a Daily CD?
[12:16] <mpt> (I.e., are Colony CDs considerably more likely to work at all?)
[12:18] <robitaille> I believe the last Colony was #2 from early July; very old, with broken X in in.  I would go for the daily CD.
[12:19] <mpt> ok, thanks
[04:59] <jsgotangco> hi
[05:01] <Madpilot> hi jsgotangco
[05:39] <jsgotangco> hi robitaille, mgalvin 
[05:45] <mgalvin> hey jsgotangco
[05:45] <mgalvin> time for bed, g'night all
[05:46] <Madpilot> exciting conversations we have here in -doc, hey? ;)
[05:47] <HrdwrBoB> I'm excited
[05:48] <Madpilot> yeah, but that's probably just by the recent spate of idiocy over in main #ubuntu...
[05:50] <HrdwrBoB> haha yes
[05:52] <Madpilot> sorry, it's just good to vent a bit - and if I did that on the main chan bob2 would kick my butt right off...
[06:14] <robitaille> hi jsgotangco 
[07:05] <jsgotangco> robitaille, did you get your laptop model?
[07:32] <robitaille> jsgotangco:  no.  Haven't heard anything yet.  What did you get?
[07:33] <jsgotangco> Tecra M2
[07:34] <robitaille> it feels like Christmas :)
[07:43] <jsgotangco> i wonder if this is updated
[07:43] <jsgotangco> http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/tasks.html
[07:44] <robitaille> " Last modified 2003/03/25 03:15:32 UTC."
[07:44] <jsgotangco> hehe
[07:44] <jsgotangco> nice
[07:44] <jsgotangco> very nice
[07:44] <jsgotangco> there is very very little love at all
[10:06] <mdke> hi all
[10:06] <jsgotangco> hey
[10:07] <Madpilot> hi all - and bye, I'm just heading off to sleep!
[10:07] <mdke> hi and bye :)
[10:07] <jsgotangco> mdke, docteam.ubuntu.com is alive
[10:08] <mdke> no way
[10:08] <jsgotangco> yes way i see Apache 
[10:08] <mdke> ah that's just the old address
[10:08] <jsgotangco> m?
[10:08] <mdke> that is not our linode
[10:09] <jsgotangco> what is this? the svn?
[10:09] <mdke> yeah
[10:09] <mdke> i think so
[10:11] <robitaille> mdke: nice laptop
[10:11] <mdke> robitaille, :)
[10:11] <jsgotangco> ouch and i thought it was already alive
[10:11] <mdke> what's yours?
[10:11] <mdke> my laptop is boned on hoary though
[10:11] <robitaille> mdke:  haven't received mine...don't know yet what I'm getting :(
[10:11] <mdke> ah
[10:11] <mdke> ask claire
[10:11] <mdke> you know within about 10 minutes of writing that wiki page, I got an email from a guy telling me how to resolve loads of the problems.
[10:11] <mdke> that was nice of him
[10:11] <jsgotangco> robitaille, you're getting the biggest one at 8lbs
[10:11] <jsgotangco> heh
[10:11] <robitaille> mdke was supposed to get the biggest since he was the closest to London :)
[10:12] <robitaille> I'll ask Claire on Monday.  Don't want to show too much that I'm jealous of all the others who have their already 
[10:13] <mdke> heh
[10:13] <jsgotangco> i dont have mine yet either but on the 17th
[10:13] <jsgotangco> corey's getting an A5
[10:13] <jsgotangco> hmm monsoon rains galore here lately
[10:14] <robitaille> hmmm can't remember the last time it rained in Victoria (must have been a couple of months ago)
[10:14] <jsgotangco> how big is the population of Victoria?
[10:15] <robitaille> just over 300,000
[10:15] <jsgotangco> WOW
[10:16] <robitaille> yeah...that big :)
[10:16] <jsgotangco> if things go well we might be moving there nex year (in canada)
[10:17] <mdke> wow
[10:17] <mdke> good thinking jsgotangco 
[10:17] <robitaille> jsgotangco:  that's great.  your loco team needs new blood :)
[10:17] <robitaille> s/your/our
[10:18] <mdke> and his too
[10:18] <jsgotangco> i dont think my wife is too keen on moving to a city with a 300,000 pop though :)
[10:19] <robitaille> Vancouver is 1.7mil, and only 40kms from here.  (but the ferry ride is a  big long...)
[10:19] <jsgotangco> 1.7M still isnt big
[10:19] <jsgotangco> ottawa is probably the same no?
[10:19] <robitaille> Vancouver 3rd biggest city  in Canada :)
[10:19] <robitaille> I think Ottawa is probably in the 500,000 range
[10:20] <jsgotangco> jeeezz whats the total population? 30M?
[10:20] <robitaille> 33mil
[10:21] <jsgotangco> and its the 2nd largest country in the world
[10:21] <jsgotangco> Manila alone already has 14mil people
[10:21] <robitaille> I wouldn't live in most of it...too cold 
[10:22] <jsgotangco> i got to read that island dispute with denmark
[10:22] <jsgotangco> heh
[10:23] <robitaille> well...it's our piece of rock.  End of the story :)
[10:23] <jsgotangco> hah
[10:24] <jsgotangco> its no bigger than a cricket field
[10:26] <robitaille> potential for oil is the magic word...and access to shipping lanes.   There is also a border dispute in the waters just off Victoria between us and the US.  But that one doesn't have either, so it's not a problem.
[10:27] <jsgotangco> ahh have you heard of the spratleys, over here its being disputed by china, taiwan, philippines, vietnam, malaysia
[10:27] <jsgotangco> every country took an island/s and all of em have military personnel
[10:28] <jsgotangco> oil companies don't want to do research on the islands because it'll spark a war for sure
[10:28] <robitaille> yeah...that's a bit scary with all these military powers.  Just sent an email to Claire.  I had to ask about my laptop before going to bed :)
[10:29] <jsgotangco> lol
[10:29] <jsgotangco> heh
[10:30] <robitaille> going to bed...
[10:30] <jsgotangco> night
[10:56] <jsgotangco> hmm lots of patches
[11:24] <jsgotangco> e
[11:25] <jsgotangco> bye
[12:52] <WaterSevenUb> hey... what's the status of the quickguide in breezy?
[01:12] <mdke> WaterSevenUb, we're making a new guide, quickguide will not ship with breezy
[01:12] <WaterSevenUb> mdke: hhmm.. interesting, is there any version online already I can have a look at? Will it be completely different?
[01:12] <mdke> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickTourDraft
[01:13] <mdke> so yeah, completely different
[01:14] <mdke> you can see our projects here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects
[01:16] <WaterSevenUb> mdke: I'm a translator... The QuickTour will be merged with Rosetta around.... ? any date? :)
[01:16] <mdke> WaterSevenUb, after string freeze at the beginning of september
[01:17] <mdke> we will advertise it don't worry
[01:18] <WaterSevenUb> mdke: thanks!:) can you tell me about that string freeze? It's a freeze of... ?
[01:19] <mdke> there is a certain date when we stop changing documentation
[01:19] <mdke> that is called freeze
[01:19] <mdke> the documentation should be ready by then
[01:19] <WaterSevenUb> mdke: ok.. only documentation.
[01:19] <mdke> everything has freeze times
[01:19] <WaterSevenUb> mdke: and then there is a "translation" freeze? 
[01:20] <mdke> no
[01:20] <WaterSevenUb> :)
[01:20] <mdke> translation is added via updates
[01:20] <mdke> if it is not ready for release
[01:20] <mdke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[01:28] <WaterSevenUb> mdke: thx
[01:52] <mdke> WaterSevenUb, np
[05:10] <jsgotangco> hi
[05:10] <jjesse> jsgotangco hello 
[05:10] <jsgotangco> jjesse: hey hows it going
[05:10] <jjesse> slow
[05:11] <jjesse> issues at awork today :(
[05:11] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[05:11] <jsgotangco> hope it gets resolved for you soon
[05:11] <mgalvin> hi jsgotangco
[05:11] <jjesse> grin thanks
[05:11] <jsgotangco> i just arrived home after going out
[05:12] <jsgotangco> i met some friends and did some chit chat
[05:12] <jsgotangco> its nice to have some time lately
[05:12] <jjesse> thanks sounds like fun, looking forward to tonight for doing the same
[05:12] <jjesse> but got first game of softball tournment first
[05:13] <jsgotangco> hmm
[05:13] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: claire sent me an email saying that its Target Express, not TNT
[05:13] <jsgotangco> hence the reason why the tracking number doesn't work
[05:21] <jsgotangco> jjesse: what was the doc you were doing?
[05:21] <jsgotangco> robitaille: morning to you
[05:21] <jjesse> kuserguide
[05:22] <jsgotangco> jjesse: how is it going?
[05:22] <jjesse> good i finished configuring desktop section and started on athe users section
[05:22] <jjesse> hopefully this weekend i'll have sometime to work on it
[05:23] <robitaille> good morning jsgotangco:   so I'm getting a Dell... don't know the model yet
[05:23] <jsgotangco> wow
[05:24] <jjesse> so the goal is to finish the users section and then figure out where to start next
[05:24] <jsgotangco> robitaille: sent by Target Express?
[05:24] <jjesse> robitaille: i've had no problems w/ my Dell and Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[05:24] <jsgotangco> jjesse: keep in your calendar that Documentation String Freeze is on Sept. 8
[05:24] <robitaille> I don't have any detail.  According to Claire, Dell is really slow.
[05:25] <jjesse> does that inclue the doc freeze for kubuntu?
[05:25] <jsgotangco> yes of course
[05:25] <jjesse> cool adding it to my calendar
[05:26] <jsgotangco> UI Freeze is on the 25th this month
[05:26] <jsgotangco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule for reference
[05:28] <jsgotangco> robitaille: Dell generally works
[05:28] <jsgotangco> mgalvin: your method works on x86?
[05:28] <jjesse> robitaille: like i said i've had no issues w/ my dell
[05:29] <mgalvin> jsgotangco: for 20050812.2? yes
[05:30] <mgalvin> eth0 will still not come up after rebooting, so you would have to dhclient after every reboot until it is fixed
[05:30] <jsgotangco> hmm
[05:30] <jsgotangco> ok i'll try that in a few minutes im already burning the iso
[05:30] <jjesse> is that the daily build?
[05:31] <mgalvin> i didn't get crazy looking for the perfect solution since it should be fixed soon, dhclient was the first thing i tried... it worked so i looked no further
[05:31] <jsgotangco> yes, just after feature freeze
[05:31] <mgalvin> jjesse, yes
[05:32] <mgalvin> we should have colony 3 any day now, as soon as these lingering issues are fixed
[05:33] <jsgotangco> initramfs
[05:33] <mgalvin> its in there
[05:34] <jjesse> mmmm lunch time see you all in 30 mins :)
[05:34] <mgalvin> the splash screen doesn't show up under vmware though so i haven't seen it yet :(
[05:34] <mgalvin> will try on my physical machine when i get home
[06:10] <jsgotangco> good night all
[06:11] <jjesse> night jsgotangco
[11:36] <mdke> :)
[11:36] <mdke> hope you have more luck than me :p
[11:36] <Burgundavia> first I have to catch at the right time
[11:36] <Burgundavia> there
[11:37] <Burgundavia> well, it sees the whole screen
[11:37] <Burgundavia> first roadblock
[11:38] <Burgundavia> no network interfaces detected
[11:40] <mdke> heh
[11:41] <Burgundavia> I just ignored that
[11:50] <Burgundavia> grub installed correctly, and it detected XP Pro
[11:50] <Burgundavia> first boot
[11:52] <mdke> do you know how I can change my answer to the question "is your hardware clock set to GMT?" after installation?
[11:53] <Burgundavia> no
[11:53] <Burgundavia> I wish I did
[11:53] <Burgundavia> because I answered that wrong on my old machine as well
[11:53] <mdke> i've changed my answer
[11:53] <Burgundavia> ask in -devel
[11:53] <mdke> since discovering that windows can't handle GMT
[11:54] <Burgundavia> linux keeps the clock at gmt and does the change in software, windows changes the hardware clock
[11:54] <mdke> i'll try #ubuntu
[11:56] <mdke> ok sudo base-config
[11:56] <Burgundavia> ok
[11:57] <mdke> night
[11:59] <Burgundavia> night