[12:14] mpt I do === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:16] robitaille: Would you recommend getting a Colony CD and installing updates from there, or getting a Daily CD? [12:16] (I.e., are Colony CDs considerably more likely to work at all?) [12:18] I believe the last Colony was #2 from early July; very old, with broken X in in. I would go for the daily CD. [12:19] ok, thanks === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-220-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:59] hi [05:01] hi jsgotangco === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:39] hi robitaille, mgalvin [05:45] hey jsgotangco [05:45] time for bed, g'night all [05:46] exciting conversations we have here in -doc, hey? ;) [05:47] I'm excited [05:48] yeah, but that's probably just by the recent spate of idiocy over in main #ubuntu... === Madpilot wanders off, muttering about repositories and sudo and people who won't listen... [05:50] haha yes [05:52] sorry, it's just good to vent a bit - and if I did that on the main chan bob2 would kick my butt right off... === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:14] hi jsgotangco [07:05] robitaille, did you get your laptop model? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:32] jsgotangco: no. Haven't heard anything yet. What did you get? [07:33] Tecra M2 [07:34] it feels like Christmas :) [07:43] i wonder if this is updated [07:43] http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp/tasks.html [07:44] " Last modified 2003/03/25 03:15:32 UTC." [07:44] hehe [07:44] nice [07:44] very nice [07:44] there is very very little love at all === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@wblv-146-218-226.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:06] hi all [10:06] hey [10:07] hi all - and bye, I'm just heading off to sleep! [10:07] hi and bye :) [10:07] mdke, docteam.ubuntu.com is alive [10:08] no way [10:08] yes way i see Apache [10:08] ah that's just the old address [10:08] m? [10:08] that is not our linode [10:09] what is this? the svn? [10:09] yeah [10:09] i think so [10:11] mdke: nice laptop [10:11] robitaille, :) [10:11] ouch and i thought it was already alive [10:11] what's yours? [10:11] my laptop is boned on hoary though [10:11] mdke: haven't received mine...don't know yet what I'm getting :( [10:11] ah [10:11] ask claire [10:11] you know within about 10 minutes of writing that wiki page, I got an email from a guy telling me how to resolve loads of the problems. [10:11] that was nice of him [10:11] robitaille, you're getting the biggest one at 8lbs [10:11] heh [10:11] mdke was supposed to get the biggest since he was the closest to London :) [10:12] I'll ask Claire on Monday. Don't want to show too much that I'm jealous of all the others who have their already [10:13] heh [10:13] i dont have mine yet either but on the 17th [10:13] corey's getting an A5 [10:13] hmm monsoon rains galore here lately [10:14] hmmm can't remember the last time it rained in Victoria (must have been a couple of months ago) [10:14] how big is the population of Victoria? [10:15] just over 300,000 [10:15] WOW [10:16] yeah...that big :) [10:16] if things go well we might be moving there nex year (in canada) [10:17] wow [10:17] good thinking jsgotangco [10:17] jsgotangco: that's great. your loco team needs new blood :) [10:17] s/your/our [10:18] and his too [10:18] i dont think my wife is too keen on moving to a city with a 300,000 pop though :) [10:19] Vancouver is 1.7mil, and only 40kms from here. (but the ferry ride is a big long...) [10:19] 1.7M still isnt big [10:19] ottawa is probably the same no? [10:19] Vancouver 3rd biggest city in Canada :) [10:19] I think Ottawa is probably in the 500,000 range [10:20] jeeezz whats the total population? 30M? [10:20] 33mil [10:21] and its the 2nd largest country in the world [10:21] Manila alone already has 14mil people [10:21] I wouldn't live in most of it...too cold [10:22] i got to read that island dispute with denmark [10:22] heh [10:23] well...it's our piece of rock. End of the story :) [10:23] hah === robitaille is a bit biased [10:24] its no bigger than a cricket field [10:26] potential for oil is the magic word...and access to shipping lanes. There is also a border dispute in the waters just off Victoria between us and the US. But that one doesn't have either, so it's not a problem. [10:27] ahh have you heard of the spratleys, over here its being disputed by china, taiwan, philippines, vietnam, malaysia [10:27] every country took an island/s and all of em have military personnel [10:28] oil companies don't want to do research on the islands because it'll spark a war for sure [10:28] yeah...that's a bit scary with all these military powers. Just sent an email to Claire. I had to ask about my laptop before going to bed :) [10:29] lol [10:29] heh [10:30] going to bed... [10:30] night [10:56] hmm lots of patches === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:24] e [11:25] bye === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-48-21.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:52] hey... what's the status of the quickguide in breezy? === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:12] WaterSevenUb, we're making a new guide, quickguide will not ship with breezy [01:12] mdke: hhmm.. interesting, is there any version online already I can have a look at? Will it be completely different? [01:12] see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickTourDraft [01:13] so yeah, completely different [01:14] you can see our projects here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects [01:16] mdke: I'm a translator... The QuickTour will be merged with Rosetta around.... ? any date? :) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:16] WaterSevenUb, after string freeze at the beginning of september [01:17] we will advertise it don't worry [01:18] mdke: thanks!:) can you tell me about that string freeze? It's a freeze of... ? [01:19] there is a certain date when we stop changing documentation [01:19] that is called freeze [01:19] the documentation should be ready by then [01:19] mdke: ok.. only documentation. [01:19] everything has freeze times [01:19] mdke: and then there is a "translation" freeze? [01:20] no [01:20] :) [01:20] translation is added via updates [01:20] if it is not ready for release [01:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:28] mdke: thx [01:52] WaterSevenUb, np === rwabel [n=rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-133-252.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-44-226.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === uniq_ [i=charlie@3ffe:80ee:31fe:0:0:0:0:33] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-134-192.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jgotangc@203.172.2.29] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:10] hi [05:10] jsgotangco hello [05:10] jjesse: hey hows it going [05:10] slow [05:11] issues at awork today :( [05:11] ahhh [05:11] hope it gets resolved for you soon [05:11] hi jsgotangco [05:11] grin thanks [05:11] i just arrived home after going out [05:12] i met some friends and did some chit chat [05:12] its nice to have some time lately [05:12] thanks sounds like fun, looking forward to tonight for doing the same [05:12] but got first game of softball tournment first [05:13] hmm [05:13] Burgundavia: claire sent me an email saying that its Target Express, not TNT [05:13] hence the reason why the tracking number doesn't work === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:21] jjesse: what was the doc you were doing? [05:21] robitaille: morning to you [05:21] kuserguide [05:22] jjesse: how is it going? [05:22] good i finished configuring desktop section and started on athe users section [05:22] hopefully this weekend i'll have sometime to work on it [05:23] good morning jsgotangco: so I'm getting a Dell... don't know the model yet [05:23] wow [05:24] so the goal is to finish the users section and then figure out where to start next [05:24] robitaille: sent by Target Express? [05:24] robitaille: i've had no problems w/ my Dell and Ubuntu and Kubuntu [05:24] jjesse: keep in your calendar that Documentation String Freeze is on Sept. 8 [05:24] I don't have any detail. According to Claire, Dell is really slow. [05:25] does that inclue the doc freeze for kubuntu? [05:25] yes of course [05:25] cool adding it to my calendar [05:26] UI Freeze is on the 25th this month [05:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule for reference [05:28] robitaille: Dell generally works [05:28] mgalvin: your method works on x86? [05:28] robitaille: like i said i've had no issues w/ my dell [05:29] jsgotangco: for 20050812.2? yes [05:30] eth0 will still not come up after rebooting, so you would have to dhclient after every reboot until it is fixed [05:30] hmm [05:30] ok i'll try that in a few minutes im already burning the iso [05:30] is that the daily build? [05:31] i didn't get crazy looking for the perfect solution since it should be fixed soon, dhclient was the first thing i tried... it worked so i looked no further [05:31] yes, just after feature freeze [05:31] jjesse, yes [05:32] we should have colony 3 any day now, as soon as these lingering issues are fixed [05:33] initramfs [05:33] its in there [05:34] mmmm lunch time see you all in 30 mins :) [05:34] the splash screen doesn't show up under vmware though so i haven't seen it yet :( [05:34] will try on my physical machine when i get home === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-133-44.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:10] good night all [06:11] night jsgotangco === rwabel [n=rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-133-252.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@81-178-74-81.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ is now known as mdke === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-124.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-69-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-69-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia begins installing hoary on his new laptop [11:36] :) [11:36] hope you have more luck than me :p [11:36] first I have to catch at the right time [11:36] there [11:37] well, it sees the whole screen [11:37] first roadblock [11:38] no network interfaces detected [11:40] heh [11:41] I just ignored that [11:50] grub installed correctly, and it detected XP Pro [11:50] first boot [11:52] do you know how I can change my answer to the question "is your hardware clock set to GMT?" after installation? [11:53] no [11:53] I wish I did [11:53] because I answered that wrong on my old machine as well [11:53] i've changed my answer [11:53] ask in -devel [11:53] since discovering that windows can't handle GMT [11:54] linux keeps the clock at gmt and does the change in software, windows changes the hardware clock [11:54] i'll try #ubuntu [11:56] ok sudo base-config [11:56] ok [11:57] night [11:59] night