| jpatrick | Generation complete. Now setting up all debs | 12:36 |
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| Riddell | upstream is asking for kmymoney2 0.8 to be packaged if anyone is looking for somehting to do | 01:19 |
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| pef | morning | 11:47 |
| jpatrick | morning | 11:50 |
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| jpatrick | wb | 02:54 |
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| hunger | What is katapult? | 04:00 |
| hunger | ... that I am supposed to w00t for (whatever that is). | 04:00 |
| jpatrick | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=21149 | 04:04 |
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| tvo | hunger: "a plugin driven utility that can launch applications, bookmarks, or anything else that you can find a plugin for." | 04:14 |
| jpatrick | Just installed it | 04:33 |
| jpatrick | how does it work? | 04:35 |
| tvo | jpatrick: alt+space then type the name of the app/bookmark you want, eg. alt+space konq enter starts konqueror | 04:45 |
| tvo | if it's running that is | 04:45 |
| tvo | there is a :/ in the systray if it's running | 04:45 |
| jpatrick | I don't see it | 04:52 |
| jpatrick | :/ | 04:52 |
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| jpatrick | Riddell - is someone working on the KMoney 0.8 ? | 05:11 |
| jpatrick | KMyMoney2* | 05:13 |
| pef | bye | 05:40 |
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| jpatrick | should I do apt-get upgrade for breezy? | 07:14 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: don't think anyone is working on it, please do | 07:20 |
| Riddell | base it on whatever is already there for old kmymoney2 | 07:20 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: I would apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 07:20 |
| jpatrick | I tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 07:27 |
| jpatrick | failed | 07:27 |
| jpatrick | depends on packages that weren't going to be installed | 07:27 |
| jpatrick | I'm upgrading then installed those kept back | 07:28 |
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| seth_k | jpatrick, I tried it once but it crapped out on compile with a cryptic error | 09:08 |
| jpatrick | compiled what? | 09:16 |
| jpatrick | KMyMoney2 0.8? | 09:17 |
| jpatrick | It works here | 09:17 |
| jpatrick | all I want to know is why kubuntu-desktop depends on openoffice | 09:17 |
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| jpatrick | hello again | 09:32 |
| seth_k | okay, glad it worked for you. I'll bet I tried it back when KDE stuff wasn't compiling, can't remember now | 09:37 |
| jpatrick | KMyMoney is even better now | 09:38 |
| seth_k | I love KDE apps so much. I spent yesterday migrating my data over to the Kontact suite (KOrganizer, KAddressBook, etc) | 09:39 |
| jpatrick | Yeah | 09:39 |
| seth_k | have a link to your KMyMoney2 deb for trying it out? | 09:40 |
| seth_k | or is it not ready yet | 09:40 |
| jpatrick | I love KDevelop(3), Kontact, KOffice, amaroK etc | 09:40 |
| jpatrick | I'm still reading the Debian Manual | 09:40 |
| jpatrick | :-/ | 09:40 |
| seth_k | ohhh, so you haven't updated the debian package yet? | 09:41 |
| seth_k | gotcha | 09:41 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide | 09:41 |
| Riddell | mind and update it with your experiences :) | 09:41 |
| jpatrick | I've seen that | 09:42 |
| jpatrick | I read the IBM page and the Debian manual | 09:42 |
| jpatrick | just trying to get breezy to work right now | 09:44 |
| jpatrick | which I'm failing at | 09:44 |
| jpatrick | :( | 09:45 |
| seth_k | what doesn't work? | 09:50 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: use a chroot | 09:50 |
| Riddell | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot | 09:50 |
| jpatrick | on what? | 09:50 |
| Riddell | on anything | 09:50 |
| jpatrick | omg | 09:51 |
| jpatrick | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http' | 09:52 |
| jpatrick | Half the systems upgrade the other isn't :-/ | 09:53 |
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| Riddell | Verwilst: you want to make SVN debs of KDE? | 09:55 |
| Verwilst | yeah, would be nice | 09:55 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: making .debs of 3.5 alpha would be a cool start | 09:55 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: true :) | 09:59 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: who made the 3.4.2 debs? | 09:59 |
| jpatrick | this upgrades going nowhere :( | 10:00 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: me | 10:03 |
| Riddell | but I'm awa next week | 10:03 |
| Verwilst | ah | 10:03 |
| Verwilst | you have scripts or something? | 10:03 |
| Verwilst | docs? ... | 10:03 |
| Riddell | nope, nope | 10:04 |
| Verwilst | heh | 10:04 |
| Riddell | get the sources | 10:04 |
| Riddell | unbzip2 them, remove the debian directory, make .orig.tar.gz files | 10:04 |
| Riddell | some of the packages are built using unsermake in which case I run unsermake -f admin/Makefile.common before making the .orig | 10:04 |
| Verwilst | yes | 10:05 |
| Riddell | then grab the prvious version (which would be the hoary 3.4.2 debs if you're making 3.5) | 10:05 |
| Riddell | get the debian directory out of them and put it in the new sources | 10:05 |
| Riddell | update the changelog (dch -i) | 10:05 |
| Riddell | debuild | 10:05 |
| Riddell | wait, hope, cross finger | 10:05 |
| Riddell | fingers | 10:05 |
| Verwilst | hehe | 10:05 |
| Riddell | if it compiles then run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing to see if there's any new files needing added | 10:06 |
| Verwilst | but | 10:06 |
| Verwilst | ah | 10:06 |
| Riddell | add those files to the appropriate debian/*install file | 10:06 |
| Verwilst | that was my next question ;) | 10:06 |
| Verwilst | didn't make a lot of debs yet | 10:06 |
| Riddell | debuild -nc to rebuild without cleanging the whole sources and building from scratch | 10:06 |
| Verwilst | mostly kernel stuffs | 10:06 |
| Riddell | and that's it | 10:06 |
| Verwilst | but i'm a Linux R&D engineer for a hosting company | 10:06 |
| Riddell | easy peasy | 10:07 |
| Verwilst | so i work with linux 8 hours a day ;) | 10:07 |
| Verwilst | and at home too | 10:07 |
| Verwilst | and i've been a gentoo dev for 3 years ;) | 10:07 |
| Verwilst | so i think i'm up to it ;) | 10:07 |
| Riddell | oh there's the patches in debian/patches/common too, you should apply those by hand first and run unsermake -f admin/Makefile.common | 10:07 |
| Riddell | then unapply them | 10:07 |
| Riddell | they'll need to be updated for 3.5 and add 08_visibility | 10:08 |
| Verwilst | apply em, run unsermake and then unapply? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:08 |
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| Verwilst | why unapply? | 10:09 |
| Riddell | they need to be applied for rebuilding the Makefile.common stage | 10:10 |
| Riddell | then unapplied or the patching system will get confused during build (it'll apply them again) | 10:10 |
| Riddell | http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/08_disable-visibility.diff needs to be added | 10:10 |
| Riddell | some of the debian/patches/common patches are more important than others, if it doesn't apply you can probably delete it | 10:12 |
| Riddell | you also need to make sure the debian/patches diffs apply, they may not | 10:12 |
| Riddell | there's an order too, arts, kdelibs, kdebase | 10:16 |
| Riddell | you should update the build depends of the kdelibs to the latest arts, and all the others to the latest kdelibs | 10:17 |
| Verwilst | what about the versioning | 10:22 |
| Riddell | 3.4.90-0ubuntu0hoary1 | 10:23 |
| Verwilst | fieuw | 10:23 |
| Verwilst | :p | 10:23 |
| Verwilst | and if i redo it | 10:24 |
| Verwilst | 0ubuntu0hoary2? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | yep | 10:24 |
| Verwilst | what do the 0's represent | 10:24 |
| Verwilst | ? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | <debian>ubuntu<ubuntu> | 10:25 |
| Verwilst | hm | 10:25 |
| Verwilst | when do they get upped? | 10:25 |
| Riddell | debian up theirs when they upload a version, ubuntu ups theirs when we upload a version to breezy | 10:26 |
| Riddell | at some point ubuntu syncs with debian and gains the debian number (and resets the ubuntu number to 1) | 10:26 |
| Verwilst | aah | 10:30 |
| Verwilst | ciik | 10:30 |
| Verwilst | cool* | 10:30 |
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| Verwilst | maybe later we can do an http://edge.kubuntu.org ;) | 10:32 |
| Verwilst | where the latest kubuntu snapshot debs are :d | 10:32 |
| Verwilst | but ok, i need to practice my deb skills with 3.5 alpha1 first | 10:33 |
| Riddell | grumpy groundhog should do it all automatically. when it gets made | 10:35 |
| Verwilst | grumpy groundhog? | 10:35 |
| Riddell | makes .debs out of SVN daily. still just an idea | 10:36 |
| Verwilst | oh | 10:38 |
| Verwilst | so maybe i could implement good ol' grumpy :d | 10:38 |
| Verwilst | hehe | 10:38 |
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| jpatrick | back | 10:52 |
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