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niki have wo hharddirves12:02
PieD?12:02
niktwo*12:02
PieDok12:02
PieDI understood "no"12:02
niklol12:02
PieDwhere are your windows partitions ?12:02
nikwatya mean?12:02
PieDdo you have only one windows partition, which is the first of the first harddrive ?12:03
PieD(and so on)12:03
nikoh12:03
niklemme check12:03
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paxPieD: pas besoin de savoir, le scipt cherche la partition et la mount :-)12:04
nikits hda2 but the first one is 32 m12:04
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PieDpax: alors explique lui clairement que c'est un programme qu'il doit enregistrer quelque part...12:05
paxPieD: deja fait, je peux pas spoon feed les bebes :c12:05
PieDbon je m'en charge12:05
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PieDnik: the link http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab provides a script12:06
PieDsave it for instance in your home folder12:06
PieDand when you'll launch it, it'll do all the job alone :)12:06
Rogue_Jedi_Xnik: wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab ~12:06
PieDpax: le script serait mieux en python :p12:07
nikwhat the hell is wrong wiht kate it keeps bouncign but wont open12:07
nikits naoying me12:07
nikanoying*12:07
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nikits not working12:12
jpatrickwhat are the default fonts?12:12
PieDnik: what happens exactly ?12:13
nikwhats suposed to happen?12:13
nikwait12:13
nikok12:13
nikso i copied it into kwrite12:13
niksaved it on my desktop12:13
nikdo i jstu open it?12:13
PieDno12:13
PieD[00:01:45]  <pax> nik, save it, name it something then in console type: sudo bash <whatever_you_named_it>12:14
nikit saved as a shell script12:14
nikjstu the name or /home/w/e/12:14
PieDso open a console (for instance do alt+f2 => konsole)12:14
PieDcd Desktop12:14
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PieDsudo bash name_of_the_file12:14
niko crap12:14
nikdesktop has ot be capitalized12:14
nikok12:14
PieD(use the tab key to complete automagically the filename)12:14
PieDnames are case sensitive12:14
PieDthat's the rule12:15
nikbtw shoudl i use the first one or the second link 12:15
nikthere differnt12:15
nikbut the introdutcion is the same12:15
PieDthe second link is perhaps better ? (I don't know, I discovered both about 15 minutes ago :)12:15
nik#!/bin/bash12:15
nik####################12:15
nik# This utility searches for available HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions, creates12:15
nik# mount points for them and adds them to /etc/fstab12:15
nik# (c)2005 Dennis Kaarsemaker <dennis@ubuntu-nl.org>12:15
nik#12:15
nik# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or12:15
PieD.........12:16
jpatrickrofl @ Excess Flood12:16
PieDwhy isn't ubuntu mounting NTFS and FAT32 partitions when you install it ?12:17
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nikhello?12:17
PieDnik couldn't do shorter :p12:17
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PieDnik: you can't paste too much text !12:18
niksorry12:18
PieDit's forbidden by the servers12:18
nikwrong thign12:18
nikwas in the clipboard12:18
nikmy bad12:18
PieDwhat IRC client do you use ?12:18
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nikkonversation12:19
PieDkonversation warns you before sending big texts12:19
nikusualy xchat htough12:19
nikit didnt this time12:19
jpatrick:o12:19
niklol12:19
niki was trying to paste the link12:19
nikbut it pasted what was in the link12:19
nikanyway12:19
nikit says12:19
nikunexpected toekn newline12:19
niki typed sudo bash <thing2>12:20
niktahts what i called it12:20
jpatricktry: sudo bash thingy212:20
nikthingy?12:20
jpatrickah thing12:20
jpatricksudo bash thing212:21
nikya it worked12:21
niklets see12:21
niknow12:21
nikyeyyy12:21
nikthis wont scru up anythign in windows right?12:21
PieDjpatrick: do you know why NTFS and FAT32 aren't handled by the installer ?12:21
PieDthis won't do anything bad on your windows partitions12:21
nikyeyyy12:21
PieDit won't destroy any data12:22
niki liek kubuntu12:22
niki think im sticking with it12:22
niki tried yoper and mandrake but this is way better12:22
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jpatricknik: no idea12:22
nikis there any simlar thign i can do so taht windows can read ext3?12:22
jpatrickyes there is12:23
nikreally??12:23
niksweeeeeeeet12:23
jpatrickI don't remember where I read it thp12:23
jpatricktho*12:23
niklol12:23
niki no someone told me i can use samba12:23
nikbut iono how12:23
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PieDsamba is a file sharing system over a network12:24
nikya i no12:24
PieDthere is an ext2/ext3 FS driver available for windows12:24
nikthey todl me its possible to share this harddrive with windows someohoe12:24
PieDhttp://www.fs-driver.org/index.html12:25
nikwhere can i make it so taht i have to double click?12:25
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nikill do it later i dont feel liek rebooting now12:25
nikthanks ill save it12:25
nikis there a double click prefernece in kde12:26
niki dont liek the single click12:27
jpatrickthere i12:27
jpatrickis*12:27
jpatrickControl Centre > Per. > Mouse12:27
nikthankss12:28
jpatrickeww.12:29
jpatrickMy fonts are horrible12:29
jpatrickall because I forgot the default setting12:30
niklol12:32
jpatrickI'm off12:32
nikhow do i log in as root12:35
jeriklogin i guess12:37
nikwhen i type root as the user name it says login faled12:39
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buzterror12:44
redguy__!tell nik about root12:47
nikhuh12:49
niktell em abtou root12:49
nikme*12:49
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nikhow do u log in as root01:04
Riddellnik: you don't01:04
paxnik, if you need to perform something that requires root, use sudo01:05
pax!sudo01:05
ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:05
nikthanks01:07
nikwhere do u set defaults 01:08
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nikfor browsers and stuff01:08
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paxnik, go to control center > KDE Components > Chooser01:10
niksoem fo the stuff isnt aperaing on the lists01:11
pax'some of the stuff' like what?01:12
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nikIM01:12
nikit onyl says kopete01:12
nikbut i ahve gaim 01:12
paxgaim is part of Gnome, Kopete belongs to KDE01:13
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paxtry kopete, it's nice.01:14
Tm_lagwhoa01:14
Tm_lagKopete <201:14
Tm_lag<301:14
Tm_lag:p01:14
EasterSunshinelol!01:14
niki dont liek kopete thoguh01:15
niki prefer gaim01:15
paxuse gaim then.01:15
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nikhow do i make it default01:15
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luminousnerdGuys, I need a straight answer.  How can I get this machine on to 19 others?  I don't want something iffy, something that could fail...I need an exact duplicate of the hd....I need to make bootable cds and be able to put them in a machine and restore that one to exactly what the source machine was.  Please, answer me do not come up with shortcuts, tell me to use a different distro, or anything of the like.  Straight answer please.01:15
dabaRbah01:16
dabaRgood luck.01:16
Tm_lagas soon as I get real internet connection, I will try to continue dev kopete01:16
Tm_lag=)01:16
EasterSunshinedeveloping kde has always been a pain compared to developing gtk appls01:17
nikur one fo the kopete developers?01:17
Tm_lagtrying to be01:17
nikcool01:17
paxdidn't know we have kopete dev here, did I say it's nice, forget that it sucks :D01:18
Tm_lagheh01:18
EasterSunshinei helped devel some apps that i thought sucked...01:18
niklol01:18
Tm_lagI sort of agree01:18
nikiono its ok but i liek gaim better01:18
niki dont liek the way its set up01:18
EasterSunshinekopete is great, there was just one problem with it that made me go for gaim01:18
EasterSunshinedun remeber what01:19
paxwell kopete is young, it'll get even better with time.01:19
niklol01:19
Tm_lag:p01:19
niki dotn liek the way the buddylist is set up and there was somethign else i forgot too01:19
paxthis font I just discovered kicks ass :-)01:20
nikwhat is it01:20
Tm_lagnik: contactlist is under "heavy" development, so feel free to try svn versions time to time01:21
paxcandara01:21
paxconsolas is nice too, I use it in konsole :)01:21
niky does the firefox icon not have the fox01:22
dabaRcopyright issues, only mozilla can use that, no distros can.01:23
paxsearch in the forums, you'll find a howto fix that01:23
nikoh01:23
nikhmm01:23
nikso if i downlaod firefox from the actual site not throuhg the package manager it has the fox?01:23
paxnik, here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=171988&postcount=101:24
nikwowww01:24
niklmao01:24
nikppl have a lot fo spare time01:24
dabaRwelll, I am not sure, but if you download the picture from teh web, and make it to be your custom icon, then that picture will be your icon. Can that be done in kde?01:24
nikya it can i did taht last time01:25
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paxhere you can see candara font http://ninux.net/files/candara.png01:26
nikthe join the tribe font?01:27
nikiono kde doesnt look as tribal as gnome01:27
nikit doesnt fit the ubuntu theme01:27
nikbtu i liek kde more though01:27
nikim not big on customizing01:27
niki think kde is good the way it is01:27
paxno, in the ksnapshot, konsole font is consolas01:27
nikoh01:28
nikso wehres candara01:28
paxyes KDE is more user friendly especially for folks coming from windoz01:28
paxcandara in ksnapshot and everything else you see01:29
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nikpretty cool font01:29
nikbtw for the firefox thing do i have to use gedit?01:30
paxyeah, childish somewhat but nice :)01:30
paxnah just use kedit, kate, nano or any other editor01:30
paxyou like01:30
niki dont liek kate01:30
paxuse kedit it's light01:30
nikwabout kwrite01:30
niky are there so many01:31
paxbecause you are in open source land01:31
niklol01:32
nikthere all the same thoguh01:32
nikalmost01:32
paxmaybe look the same but operate and use resources differently01:34
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paxnik so are you deleting windoz partition soon or need more few days? :-)01:35
niklol01:35
nikive had linux for about 5 months01:36
deanwinwho?01:36
nikim jsut new to kubuntu01:36
nikim jsut using it as hardrive space righ tno01:36
nikright now*01:36
nikwhat programmign language is that firefox thign in01:37
paxoh, good so you have until next sunday. read and ask all you can until then :-)01:37
niklol01:37
niki better get crackign cuz im leaving for maine tomorow mornign and coming back nextr sunday01:38
nik:)01:38
nikwhat a conicedence01:38
paxdont forget to hand out kubuntu CDs01:39
nikto the animals?01:40
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nikim goign camping01:40
paxoh, take pictures then :-)01:41
niklol01:42
nikim tryign the firefox thign and i get this error message01:43
nikwoops01:43
nikdo i put it in quotes'?01:43
paxput what in quotes?01:44
nik"tmp/kde-nik is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0"01:44
nikthere01:44
nikwhats that mean01:44
paxdon't worry about it01:44
nikk01:44
paxyou'll always see temp permissions changing01:44
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paxfirefox icon shows that silly fox now?01:46
nikyeyy01:47
nikit worked01:47
nikya01:47
nikit doesnt light up thoguh :(01:47
niko well01:47
nikits a sacrifice01:47
deanyou know that firefox is not fox after all?01:47
nikreally?01:48
deanyap.. 01:48
nikwhat is it01:48
paxis it a racoon in fox cloths?01:48
deanbear i think...01:48
niku sure?01:48
nikhmm01:48
nikfirebear01:49
paxoh, bear that explains it, firefox tend to open honey pages on its own01:49
nikcan i get the trash icon o be on the desktop instead of in the panel01:49
nikurs does that? mine once sent an email to winnie the poo without me even clickign a button01:50
paxyes you can, browse to desktop and add it there01:50
nikah01:50
paxaww winnie my favorite01:50
nikit didnt add it01:51
paxnik here http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#showtrash01:52
nikhwo do u guys find this stuff so fast01:53
nikntfs, firefox, trash01:53
paxI camp here all day, waiting for someone to ask a question, when they do, I go to another channel, paste the question, get the answer and pretend I knew the answer01:54
niklol01:54
paxhehe :D01:55
paxbrb01:55
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nikhmm01:57
nikit made some sort of backup file01:57
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paxwith ~02:00
nikya02:00
nikwhat is it02:01
nik?02:01
paxjust temp delete it if you want02:01
nikbut it still doesnt show the trash 02:01
nikumm i accidently jstu closed the panel02:01
nikhow do i open it02:02
paxseems like you are meticulous :-) 02:02
paxclick it02:02
niklol02:02
nikno its 02:02
nikgone02:02
paxgood, you scared the poor thing02:02
nikthe panel?02:02
paxpanel?02:02
nikor the backup trash file02:02
paxyou want to delete trash?02:03
nikno02:03
niki want to be able to see it on my desktop02:03
nikand i want to reopn the panel02:03
nikat this point02:03
paxit should be there now02:03
nik?02:03
nikno i closed it02:03
nikaccdiently02:03
paxyou changed true to false?02:03
nikwith cntrl alt esc 02:03
nikwhat are we ltakign about02:04
nikpanel02:04
nikor trash02:04
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niklol02:04
nikok02:04
paxyou got the trash can on the desktop?02:04
nikforget trash right now02:04
nikhow do i open the panel02:04
paxwhat panel nik?02:04
nikbottom panel02:04
paxkmenu, dock what?02:05
nikthe hwoel thing02:05
nikwhole*02:05
paxtype: kicker (in console)02:05
nikhow do i open konsole now02:05
nikok02:05
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niki opend it02:05
nikok02:05
nikpanels back02:06
niknow trash02:06
niki changed true to false02:06
paxsaving the file02:06
nikand when i saved it made a backup file with the ~02:06
paxit's ok02:06
nikhuh?02:06
niki still cant see it thoguh02:06
paxyou 'proly will see it when you logout/back in02:07
nikhmm02:07
nikok lemme try02:07
nikyey u were right02:08
paxweird, I'm never right02:09
niklol02:09
nikhmm so what else02:09
paxbeer ..02:09
paxyou did great today, get a cold one and celebrate, tomorrow is another day02:10
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nikim out of beer...02:13
nik:(02:13
nikand im going to maine tomorow02:13
nikkubuntu is sweet02:14
nikwhats a good simple c++ compiler02:14
niknot too complicated cuz im jstu leanring02:14
niklearning*02:14
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paxnik, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:15
nikis sudo onyl ubuntu or is it UNIX02:16
paxsudo is an alternative to su02:16
nikooh02:16
niksnap02:16
nikso y do ppl use sudo instead of su02:17
paxbecause it has a timer among other things02:18
nik15 minutes is default?02:18
nikto kep the password02:18
nikkep*02:18
nikkep*02:18
paxI believe so02:18
nikkeep*02:18
nikcool02:18
nikmy big unix book doesnt say sudo in it02:18
paxwhat book?02:18
nikunderstanding unix second edition02:19
nikhow long is this program gonna be setitn gup02:19
niko wait its done now02:19
nikwhere is it located?02:19
paxcan suggest couple of books?02:19
niksure02:19
nikthi sis a rpetty odl bok02:19
nikis a pretty old book*02:19
paxlinux in a nutshells (fifth edition) running linux (oreilly) linux bible 2005, and linux cookbook by carla schoder02:20
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nikhow do i access build-essential02:20
paxnutshell*02:20
niki read a bit of linux in a nutshell02:20
nikin barnes and noble02:20
paxinfo gcc02:20
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paxyes, but it's $$ at b&n get it from amazon02:21
nikis build essenial a program?02:21
paxset02:21
nikwhere is it02:21
niki cant find it02:21
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paxwhat are you truing to do, use gcc?02:22
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nikwell how do i compile a source using it02:22
paxphone, brb02:22
nikk02:23
niky wont synaptic open?02:23
nikthe htingy keeps on bouncing02:23
nikand eventualy stops02:23
nikok it opened now02:27
nikbut how come that happens sometimes02:27
niki click a program and it keps bouncing but never opens02:28
nikoo i no what i need02:28
nika fast bittorrent client02:28
nikand a c++ IDE02:28
niknot jstu a compiler02:28
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nikhello?02:39
nikpax?02:39
paxyes nik02:41
nikhi02:41
nikwhats a god bittorrent client for linux02:41
paxaptc-cache search bittorent 02:41
paxchose one you like02:42
niktheres so many ppl on this channel are they all servers and bots and stuff y do they never talk02:42
paxthey 'proly ideling working on projects or sleeping02:42
nikwhats aptc cache?02:42
paxpackage handling utility let's you search and do other stuff02:43
niklike synaptic?02:43
paxsynaptic is frontend yes02:43
nikcan i jsut use it though02:44
paxkynaptic is KDE's version of synaptic02:44
nikya btu it sucks02:44
paxyes you can, whatever is easier for you02:44
nikit onyl has bittorrent and bittornado thoguh from my experiance those are pretty slow02:44
paxit does suck, still young02:44
paxhow about ktorrent02:45
nikhow come somtimes when i open a program the thing jstu bounces and the program doesnt open02:45
nikill try it02:45
paxwhat program?02:45
niksometimes kate02:45
niksoemtimes synaptic02:45
niksometimes others02:46
nikit doesnt say ktorrent02:46
paxyou'll have to roll your own ktorrent02:46
niklol02:46
paxhere's how http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=220081&postcount=102:46
nikis ti better than bittornado?02:47
Rogue_Jedi_XHey, anyone know where I can set how many times Konversation should reconnect if disconnected?02:47
niko ya i also wanted a IDE 02:47
paxI like it.02:47
paxRogue_Jedi_X: devs at #konversation are friendly and open to suggestions02:48
nikumm02:48
niki no where it says how many seconds to try it02:48
Rogue_Jedi_XThanks02:48
nikare there any IDE compilers for c++02:49
niknot jstu console02:49
paxno clue about that02:49
nikhmm02:49
nikliek for windows theres borland c++02:49
nikthe IDE02:50
nikor dev c++02:50
nikbloodshed02:50
nikoh02:50
paxgoogle is your friend nik :-)02:50
nikhmm02:50
nikno me and google are mad at eachother02:50
nikhe was all liek im not ur friend anymore02:50
nikand im all like02:50
nikya02:50
nikwell scru u google02:50
paxwep google hates pr0n02:50
niklol02:50
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nikis there a way to copy and paste into console02:54
paxyes third mouse button02:54
paxhighlight text to copy and click middle mouse button to paste02:54
paxor just create ctrl+c ctrl+v shortcuts02:55
nikomg that jstu made my life so much easier02:55
paxsend me beer then02:55
nikim out of beer02:56
paxI take m&ms too02:56
nikhmmmi had a weird dream02:57
nikwhere i was feeiiidign m &ms to some mermaid02:57
paxlet's hope you're over 21 or else this chat is illegal and should be about kubuntu only02:57
niklol02:57
nikwait so do u no any programs taht are like u type in them then rpess compile and they make the program02:58
paxumm, great idea, you should start working on something like that nik02:59
nik?03:00
nikthey have them 03:00
paxno clue about that03:00
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nikthats what i meant by IDE03:00
paxI'm out nick, see you around :-)03:01
nikhuh03:02
niklets se what other programs do i need other than the c++ compiler 03:02
nikhow botu some swet games03:03
nikno any good ones03:03
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niko ya i remmebr my question how come not all programs are in the menu03:03
nikis ubuntu debian based?03:06
EasterSunshineyes03:06
EasterSunshinenotice that all the packages are .debs03:06
nikooo03:07
nikif a program doesnt show up in the menu03:07
nikis there a way to put ti there03:07
nikwhere is the debian menu ?03:08
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EasterSunshinenik: have you tried the menu editor?03:14
nikya im in it now03:15
nikbut where do the programs taht arent there go03:15
EasterSunshinenik: right click the k with a gear under it, dunno whats its called, a there should be menu editor, it has debian, add item, etc...03:15
EasterSunshinenik: all the programs on your comp are either in /bin /usr/bin or usr/local/bin with a few others floating around03:15
EasterSunshinenik: if you look in those folders, you'll understand why each program doesn't have a shortcut03:15
nikbecause theres so many?03:17
EasterSunshineyes, many of which you'll never directly use03:18
niki c03:18
EasterSunshinelike /bin/false03:18
nikbut how come like kwrite isnt in the menu or some of the games i install03:18
nikthrough synaptic03:18
EasterSunshineperhaps the installation procedure does not including registering itself with kde's menu03:18
nikhmm03:19
nikmakes sence03:19
EasterSunshinethe makers may not have had the ease of kde users in mind03:19
nikwhats in the debian menu?03:19
EasterSunshineno clue =/03:19
nikhwodo i add it to kmenu03:19
EasterSunshineafk03:19
EasterSunshineoh before i go, it wont appear unless theres something in it03:20
niko ok03:20
nikthanks03:20
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dargohi kubunters!04:01
nikhi dargo!04:01
dargohi nik 04:02
dargoYou use nicotine for connect to soulseek network?04:02
niki dont smoke04:03
nikim kidding04:03
nikumm no04:03
niki dont04:03
dargojaja04:03
nikare u one of them linux experts04:03
dargoWhenever I execute it, it gives back east error to me04:03
dargooh no nik , i'm kubuntu-newbie04:04
nikdamn04:04
dargohttp://pastebin.com/33629504:04
nikis taht the error report?04:04
nikwell sadly i have to reboot back into windows and finish downloading a file04:05
dargoNot simply it is a copy of the error, not to flood the channel04:05
nikoh04:06
nikwell sorry ic ant help u04:06
nikgood luck04:06
dargook04:06
dargosomebody can help me?04:06
EasterSunshinedargo: have newest versions of everything?04:08
dargoyes EasterSunshine 04:09
dargoI have already verified it04:09
EasterSunshinegtk.FALSE, and gtk.TRUE are depreacted, meaning old and obsolete, now we use c extensions TRUE and FALSE04:09
EasterSunshineoh wait those are warnings, the real error is in the python script04:10
dargoEasterSunshine: use kubuntu 5,04 and gtk according to apt is in its last version04:10
EasterSunshinethe python script is bad, do you get this error consistently?04:11
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dargoyes EasterSunshine 04:12
dargowhenever I start nicotine04:12
dargoit responds to me with that error and the program is closed04:13
EasterSunshinethe traceback says that self.sections["server"] ["server"]  is not a list or tuple or subscriptable data type, so maybe if you feel like debugging it youself, track what it is, and see where the programmers messed up04:13
EasterSunshineacutally, its unlikely the programmers would let something like that slide...04:14
EasterSunshineperhaps your python version is not supported by your nicotine version04:14
EasterSunshineat anyrate, that nicotine looks really old04:14
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dargonicotine is in its last version04:16
EasterSunshinelatest version must be pretty old...04:16
dargo1.0.8-rc104:16
EasterSunshineis that an alpha?04:16
dargoargh!04:16
dargojeje04:16
EasterSunshineif its an unstable, try downgrading to the latest stable release04:16
mishtereeeeew im in windowss04:16
mishterits me nik btw04:17
EasterSunshinepython allows a lot of room for errors04:17
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dargoLatest stable release: 04:17
dargonicotine-1.0.8.tar.gz04:17
nikhow come xchat is free in linux but theres a 30 day trial in windows04:17
paxbecause windoz users should pay for their sins 04:19
nikpax04:19
niki have sinned04:19
dargothe last stable version doesnt work either04:19
niki am back in windows04:20
nikbut onyl to finish downloading sumtin04:20
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paxmay the source forgive you04:20
nikhaha nice04:20
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paxread the FAQ http://www.xchat.org/windows/04:20
nikit better finish soon04:20
nikoh04:21
nikwell they shdoul jsut scru the windows users04:21
paxif you're using KDE, give Konversation a shot04:21
nikya i was using it 5 minutes ago04:22
nikbut now i gotta finish downlaoding so im in windows04:22
nikil be back04:22
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nik5 minutes of windows and it already froze04:28
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niksigh04:31
nikdoes anyone know nay good  c++ IDEs for linux?04:33
paxhttp://dot.kde.org/1040161008/04:35
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niki tried it but i cant seem to be able to set it up properly04:43
nikis ext2ifs the onyl way to be able to read ext3 from windows?04:44
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paxare you trying to setup samba?04:46
nikno?04:46
nikshould i be?04:49
paxit's one way to do that, fun too :)04:50
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nikwill i onyl be able to write?04:53
nikor read too04:53
paxboth04:53
niksweet04:54
nikbtw i did taht thing to be able to read the windows drive from kubuntu with the little program. it said read and write but it will onyl let me read04:55
paxhere try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129315&postcount=1 or simply install samba and SWAT, this tool will allow you to configure smb with your mouse04:55
pax!swat04:55
ubotuit has been said that swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html04:55
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nikwill it be slower if its in a samaba network than if u have diret acess to the drive?05:10
EasterSunshine!info ubuntu-base05:15
ubotuubuntu-base: (The Ubuntu base system), section base, is optional. Version: 0.43 (hoary), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB05:15
EasterSunshineargh, i could have removed so many packages...05:15
apokryphosEasterSunshine: removing that won't remove anything05:30
apokryphosother than itself, of course. ;-)05:30
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jayparadiseim currently stuck on SuSE cus when i attempt to boot ubuntu it doesn't recognize keystrokes05:35
jayparadiseit thinks j is an a and = is F1 and so on05:36
jayparadiseodd05:36
jayparadiseim thining its cus when i boot num lock is on05:37
jayparadisegonna troubelshoot05:37
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memoryleeki'm running kubuntu on a older laptop and when i'm running off battery for a few minutes, i get a warning that says the battery is extremely low and then the system logs me out...what's going on?05:40
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stibbywhats the command for extracting .tar.bz2?06:05
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nikteh samba thign didnt work06:07
sproingiestibby: tar jxf06:08
sproingiewhy tar doesn't just automatically detect which compression remains a mystery06:09
sproingiehell it should just get it from the filename06:09
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stibbythanks06:12
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n17r0hi06:32
seth_khi06:33
n17r0how can I make konsole look like knoppix konsole? With all thosoe nice colors?06:33
n17r0like a green cursor etc06:34
n17r0and a different color for username06:34
n17r0??06:34
kinfowhat?06:34
n17r0my konsole looks abit boring now in black/white colors :/06:35
n17r0no one knows?06:36
kalenedraeln17r0, got to 'Configure Konsole' in some menu06:38
kalenedrael'Settings', perhaps06:38
n17r0nope06:38
n17r0i looked there already06:38
paxn17r0: are you talking about bash prompt?06:39
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n17r0uhm just main konsole06:39
n17r0terminal program06:39
paxn17r0: something like this http://ninux.net/files/ubuntu.png (look at konsole) ?06:40
n17r0yeah06:41
n17r0btw really slick desktop m8 :P06:41
paxhere chose one of these copy the code into your .bashrc file http://www.mboedick.org/code/bash_prompts/06:41
paxor google "bash prompt colors" you'll find tons of styles/colors06:42
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n17r0nice one, thanks :P06:43
paxnp :c)06:44
ubuntu06:46
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jeanluchey can some one help me to play mp3s in a newly installed kubuntu?07:17
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Poromiesyes, just a moment07:19
jeanlucok07:20
jeanlucI need to know the exact name of a good player and the codecs I need to install and then how to configure them in that player07:20
Poromieswell, for player i'd recommend either amarok or xmms07:21
jeanlucok07:21
jeanluclemme kynaptic xmms07:21
Poromiesand for the codecs, here is a how-to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:21
redguyjeanluc: bmp is also kindof cool07:22
redguy!bmp07:22
ubotubmp is, like, a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer07:22
jeanlucok im installing the codecs for the gstreamer07:24
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sproingieis there a way to see thumbnails for images on a cd without going into image view mode?07:51
sproingieimage view mode doesn't show me the exif information tooltip07:51
sproingiewhat i really want to do is sort columns based on exif info, like if i want to get all the pics with the flash off07:53
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llukahey again07:54
lluka>_<07:54
llukai did everything in that howto but got a different error07:54
lluka(WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver07:55
lluka kernel module ...07:55
llukaetc etc >_<07:55
sproingieah, that was the problem.  didn't have previews on for media:07:56
nikhi for soem reason the internet connection in kubuntu is a ton slower then when i boo xp07:59
niklike in xp a page will open instantly07:59
nikin kubuntu it takes atlwast 10 seconds for the same page07:59
nikmayb 607:59
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nikis anybody here?08:19
nikive been reading throguh the forums looking for an answer to why my internet connection is so much slower wiht kubuntu than xp and i really cant find an answer. alot of ppl have  this problem. i tried turning off ipv6 and rebooting but it didnt help at all. 08:20
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antrixnik, can u post a link to the forum where lot of people report this problem?08:30
antrixnikkia: also, can u run tests and find out whether the difference is actually there or just subjective08:30
antrixoops, nik not nikkia08:31
nikits there08:31
niklike08:32
niki didnt run an actual test iono how to do taht but webpages actualy load 10 times longer i timed it08:32
nikandi foudn a lto of ppl have the same problem08:32
niknot onyl in ubuntu08:32
nikk08:32
nikfor th eoink08:32
nikjsut a sec08:32
niklink*08:32
antrixnik, http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest08:32
nikhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55743&highlight=slow+internet tahts one thread08:33
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antrixnik, from personal experience, i've found network performance much better in linux than on xp08:33
nikhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56698&highlight=slow+internet08:33
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nikfor java do i download linux or linux rpm08:34
antrixjava install is described in ubuntuguide afaik08:35
nikthe unofficail ubuntu guide thing?08:37
antrixyes08:37
nikit coundt find the package08:38
niksun-j2re1.508:38
nikis taht the right one?08:38
antrixyes08:38
antrixhave u added the correct repositories08:39
nikit cant find it08:39
niki unchecked all the universe stuff and the others08:39
antrixbackports?08:40
nikif thats wat u mean08:40
nikhuh?08:40
niksources.list08:40
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niki unchecked all the # things08:40
antrixin ubuntuguide - read 'how to add extra repositories'08:40
nikiih08:40
antrixthere are two more, hoary-backports and hoary-extras... java is in one of them08:41
niki c08:41
nikooh*08:41
nikok08:41
nikya i did that now08:43
nikit still didnt find the packages08:43
nikupdate08:44
nikdamnit08:44
antrixdid u refresh ur package list?08:44
nikim installlling now08:44
nikim catchign my own mistakes im jsut hurrying and forgettign stuff08:45
jake1http://www.big-boys.com/articles/coyote1.html08:45
jake1woah crazy08:45
jake1what will they think of next08:45
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nikhi does anyon no hwo to solve the slower internet on linux problem08:55
niki fdun a lot of ppl have the problem in forums and stuff but i ahevnt foudn a solution08:56
nikin xp my transfer rate is 281 kb and in kubuntu its 5008:56
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gimbalhey, this came up and I thought I would ask: Would the konqueror in ubuntu already have a web shortcut defined for packages.ubuntu.com? (like, there is one for google, such that one could enter like "google word"; konqueor would then make the appropriate URL for completing the search)09:52
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jpatrickMaybe Control Centre > Internet > Web Browser > Web Shortcuts09:53
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gimbaljpatrick: yah, that's how to add it; I was just wondering if it's in the install, by default; there's one on debian for deb packages, seemed appropriate if there'd be one on ubuntu for ubuntu packages, heh09:57
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gimbalwell, just wanted to bring it up; hasta luego10:05
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der_oschnihello hello 11:22
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_jeffhey guys11:25
_jeffwhere do you get wireless lan package?11:26
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_jeffanybody know the command to download the package for wireless internet?11:27
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_jeffdoes anyone know how to install the wireless lan packages?11:40
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nikkiahmmm12:00
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[Surge] Why does kubuntu have a /lib/tls/i686/cmov set of libs?12:05
[Surge] I have an app that tries to use libc.so.6 in there and it crashes.12:05
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FuricHeya's!12:47
FuricI need the "noacpi" kernel option on boot, so i modified menu.lst in /boot/grub to have an extra (default) option, and booted, worked great, but then when i shut down and booted again it looks like the file has been regenerated with my changed gone, how can i solve?12:49
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TimmmmHi, what is the name of the program that searches /usr/bin (and presumably other places) for programs that aren't currently in your kmenu and lets you add them?12:52
nikkiakappfinder12:53
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TimmmmThanks12:55
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TimmmmHmm, didn't work very well though - didn't even find itself!12:56
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annomousi would liketo install kubuntu but the computer i want to install it on doesen,t connect to the internet12:57
Furicannomous: Download the installer cd from kubuntu.org and use that12:58
annomousat 100 kbps12:58
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annomousslow internet connection12:59
FuricGet someone with a faster connection to download and burn it12:59
annomousis it possibleto justdownload kde01:00
FuricYes, from kde.org, but you need a linux system to run it on, kubuntu is a good one, why dont you go download its installer cd. :P01:00
annomousby the way i alredy have ubuntu01:00
FuricAhh, well i would recomend connecting the other pc to the internet and downloading it, then disconnecting01:01
FuricOr you could browse through the apt archives and install all the debs manually, but what a pain01:02
annomousif i could get the install cd couldi findthemeta package01:02
FuricIm not sure, maybe possible to add the cd as a source for synaptic01:03
annomousi think it is01:03
FuricTry it01:03
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annomous1 problem im on the other side of the world from it01:04
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FuricYour on the other side of the world from a computer that doesn't have an internet connection and you want to install stuff... great. :\01:05
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ubuntuhello01:11
ubuntudd01:11
ubuntukkk01:11
ubuntussss01:11
ubuntullll01:11
ubuntuooo01:11
ubuntuwwww01:11
ubuntukkkk01:11
PieDubuntu: great, you discovered the keyboard :p01:11
ubuntuthanks....;-)) it's a new amazing experience!01:12
laser_tk:D01:12
ubuntucan u help me with a problem with the internet connection under ubuntu?01:13
ubuntuno answer... :-((01:13
PieDif you don't give us any information, no01:14
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paxrosemary: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:14
rosemarypax - I don't have ubuntu installed yet01:15
paxwhen you do01:15
rosemaryyep okay01:15
paxI saw your question is #ubuntu01:15
ubuntunow I give: I have ethernet modem, I have configured it with pppoeconf01:15
phreakyshi01:15
rosemaryI actually had difficulty with partitioner01:15
paxthe installer can do that for ya01:16
rosemarypax - thanks01:16
PieDubuntu: and ?01:16
rosemarybut kde is a big download?01:16
paxrosemary: how much space you can afford?01:16
ubuntuafter connection with conqueror explorer the connection doesn't fall, but after the first page loaded it doesn't work!01:16
rosemarypax - it's a second machine - 6Gig HD - just for playing and trying new things01:17
phreakysanyone knows how to enable mp3 support for ubuntu?01:17
ubuntuclear explanation....01:17
paxrosemary: if it's an old box stick with gnome, it's lighter01:17
PieDwhat means "doesn't work" ?01:17
PieDhost not found ?01:17
pax!codecs01:17
ubotuhmm... codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:17
ubuntuyes unknown host01:17
rosemarypax - okay, it is an old box - didn't realise gnome was lighter01:17
paxphreakys: ^01:17
rosemarywhat about icewm01:18
PieDand from a konsole, does ping google.fr works for instance ?01:18
paxrosemary: even better01:18
rosemaryrighto - maybe I'll look at that for next try out01:18
phreakysah01:18
phreakystnx01:18
paxgood luck.01:19
paxphreakys: np01:19
rosemarythanks01:19
ubuntualso ping google.fr doesn't work, but as you can see I can chat...01:19
phreakyslooks good btw, this ubuntu01:19
PieDubuntu: hum01:20
PieDwhat is the content of /etc/resolv.conf ?01:20
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paxphreakys: wait until you try kubuntu http://ninux.net/files/ubuntu.png01:20
ubuntunameserver 192.168.1.101:21
apokryphospax: trans windecs -- nice :)01:21
ubuntups I have kubuntu01:21
phreakysits better?01:21
apokryphosphreakys: than?01:21
phreakysubuntu?01:22
apokryphosWell, it has KDE. ;-)01:22
phreakysor ?01:22
phreakysaah, thats a major step forward01:22
ubuntuPieD?01:22
paxphreakys: user frienldy, especially for folks coming from windoz. Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE01:22
phreakysits also in the package is it?01:22
phreakyshm, thats cool01:22
apokryphospax: what windec is that? 01:22
phreakysi like gnome to..is that also included?01:22
paxapokryphos: plain kde01:23
apokryphosphreakys: you can get it from the repositories, yes01:23
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phreakysi got kde from synaptic packetmenager01:23
apokryphosok01:23
phreakysbut installed a little too much :-)01:23
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ubuntusorry01:24
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PieDubuntu: does ping 216.239.57.104 works ?01:24
apokryphosphreakys: running out of space/01:24
paxapokryphos: you asked about win decoration, sorry, it's crystal01:24
phreakysnah, i got 120gb for linux01:24
ubuntuperfectly01:24
phreakysjust killed windows01:25
phreakysand im never going back01:25
PieDand ping 192.168.1.1 ?01:25
pax120GB wow you are generous01:25
phreakysubuntu is a blessing for me owning a radeon01:25
ubuntutoo!01:25
apokryphospax: wow, looks a lot different to how I remember it. Thanks.01:25
phreakys:)01:25
PieDtry :01:25
phreakysyea, all space is linux now01:25
PieDno, I was going to say a wrong thing01:25
ubuntuit happens! ;-)01:26
PieD(I never used ADSL modems under linux)01:26
ubuntudoh01:26
apokryphosPieD: my attempts were on the whole pretty unsuccessful 01:26
PieDdoesn't anybody have such modems to help ubuntu ?01:26
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apokryphosThere's a few, no doubt, but not aware. There might be a list of supported ones on the wiki somewhere01:28
paxubuntu you are connected to irc and can't ping yahoo.fr is that it?01:28
phreakysi mean...this packetmanager is really a great tool01:28
ubuntuyes pax!01:28
ubuntuI can't ping nothing01:28
phreakysway faster than that apt-get thing, if you dont know what to look for :->01:28
apokryphospax: ah, different crystal styles -- so I see. So not real transparency ;-)01:28
PieDyou can ping IPs01:28
PieDI gave you a google.fr IP, and ping worked01:29
paxubuntu behind a router?01:29
phreakyslol01:29
phreakysow yea01:29
ubuntupax: again...?01:29
phreakysmp3 playback :D01:29
paxphreakys: yes fake transparency01:29
paxubuntu how are you connected to the net?01:30
phreakysi cant shut off microphone though01:30
paxphreakys: kmix01:30
phreakyshm, nm01:30
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phreakysyea01:30
phreakysthat one errorerd01:30
ubuntuwith ethernet modem and username and password...I think behind router01:30
phreakysbut its working now01:31
phreakysomg01:31
phreakysnot really01:31
phreakysmy ears01:31
paxcheez man, lower the volume I can hear it from here01:31
phreakysif i click mute, its beeping the hell into my ears01:32
phreakysbut lower works01:32
paxI heard it :cP01:32
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phreakys;)01:32
ubuntupax: did I explain?01:32
paxphreakys: you proly just need to play with kmix to get the right settings01:32
paxubuntu I fail to see the problem01:33
PieDubuntu: what does "sudo route" (without quotes) do ?01:33
ubuntuanswer with a table 01:34
PieDgive us the table01:34
PieD(if it's not bigger than 3 lines)01:35
ubuntuit's three lines01:35
PieDgive it to us01:35
ubuntu192.168.100.1   *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp001:36
ubuntu192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth001:36
ubuntudefault         192.168.100.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp001:36
PieDsudo kedit /etc/resolv.conf01:36
phreakysyea, its working now01:37
PieDand replace 192.168.1.1 by 192.168.100.101:37
phreakyshow can i edit the menus in gnome?01:37
paxsmeg01:37
phreakysah :D01:37
phreakysits not in synaptic :/01:38
PieDubuntu: that's done ?01:38
ubuntuyes, I haven't kedit, I use vi01:38
ubuntuthat's done01:39
paxphreakys: you need to enable couple of lines in your sources.list01:39
pax!sources01:39
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:39
PieDyet try viewing a webpage01:39
ubuntudone , doesnt work, have I to close the connection e reopen?01:40
PieDno*01:40
ubuntuso it doesn't work01:40
paxubuntu try /etc/init.d/networking restart01:40
PieDI'm not used to such things 01:41
paxwith sudo that is01:41
PieD(I really like being behind a router : configuration is extremely hard ! I give my WEP key, and it's working :)01:42
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phreakyshm01:42
phreakysi get a dependancy error when install smeg with dpkg :./01:42
phreakyscan it be installed with apt-get?01:43
paxwhy would you do that, it's in the repos01:43
pax!find smeg01:43
phreakysits empty in synaptic01:43
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paxphreakys: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:44
luiginohello everyone01:44
phreakysok01:44
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'smeg' returned no results.01:44
apokryphos!info smeg breezy01:44
ubotusmeg: (simple menu editing), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 212 kB01:44
paxphreakys:  uncomment multiverse and universe01:45
apokryphosIt's only in breezy at the mo01:45
luiginoI'd like to know where kubuntu starts the kde because I've installed enlightenment but at boot it won't start, neither select the window manager that I want....01:45
phreakysuniverse is uncommented01:45
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luiginoso any idea?01:45
phreakysmultiverse is not there :/01:45
paxno it's not, unless I'm running breezy and dont know it01:45
paxpax@debuntu:~$apt-cache search smeg01:45
paxsmeg - simple menu editing01:45
paxphreakys: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:46
apokryphosluigino: you'll likely have to make an entry for kde in /usr/share/xsessions if it's not there already01:46
phreakystnx01:46
_ubuntupax: did u read my answer?01:46
PieD_ubuntu: we didn't see any answer01:46
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paxwhat PieD said.01:47
paxphreakys: when you uncomment the two lines run sudo apt-get update01:47
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luiginoapokryphos: in that directory I have kde.desktop and enlightenment.desktop, I added also e17.desktop cause maybe it was for the name that wont start but it wasnt that..any idea?01:47
_ubuntuI said I'm moved, it works!!!! thanks thanks, and I asked for the reason01:47
apokryphosluigino: alright, one sec.01:48
pax_ubuntu: thank PieD he fixed you up.01:48
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apokryphosluigino: how did you install enlightenment? What repo are you using? Not the nooms one?01:48
PieD_ubuntu: ok01:48
_ubuntuI thank everyone!!!!!01:49
_ubuntuother question? fat32 writing?01:49
paxphreakys: here, get my sources.list, don't let the size scare you: http://ninux.net/files/sources01:49
luiginommmm I used the nooms following the thread in the ubuntuforums....01:49
luiginoIf I used the wrong repo then what repo shall I use?01:50
Wizzardhi there01:50
pax!ntfs01:50
ubotuI guess ntfs is the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab01:51
pax_ubuntu: ^^01:51
apokryphosluigino: hm, that is the right one. You'll have to edit some other stuff01:51
apokryphosluigino: I gotta go eat now (family is waiting); I'll try to help when I'm back, if no-one else here has already01:51
luiginook01:51
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luiginoenjoy ur meal, apokryphos  :)01:51
phreakystnx01:52
_ubuntupax: I can read but I can't write from the win32 partition, this is shared with the xp (two o.s.)01:52
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luiginoanyone else has any idea about starting enlightenment under kubuntu Kde based?01:53
phreakysill just replace mine?01:53
pax_ubuntu: shared how, dual boot?01:53
paxphreakys: sure.01:53
paxphreakys: make sure you back up yours first01:54
phreakysok01:54
phreakysis there a gui editor thats std installed on ubuntu?01:54
_ubuntuyes01:54
pax_ubuntu: you want to write to linux partition from winxp, is that it?01:55
_ubuntuthe opposite, from linux I want to write to fat32 01:55
pax_ubuntu: then just run seveas script01:56
paxhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab01:56
phreakysok, i did it01:57
phreakysnow updating apt01:57
phreakyscool, smeg is in the list now01:57
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phreakystnx apx01:57
phreakyspax01:57
paxyou have skype there as bonus, so you can just apt-get intoIT01:57
phreakysyea, i got it allready installed. but now i can update it automatically right?01:58
paxyes01:58
_ubuntupax: I'll try but the partition is mounted, I can read, but I can't write.01:58
phreakyscool01:58
luiginono one has any idea?01:58
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phreakysi dont understna02:00
M3ocs-D4rksunphreakys02:00
M3ocs-D4rksunyou can help me?02:00
phreakysif i want to install smeg, it keeps complaining about python-dxg02:00
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phreakysehm, with what?02:00
phreakysim a noob here02:00
phreakysbut ask away02:01
phreakyshm02:02
phreakysive no clue why its asking for python-dxg, while its allready installed :/02:04
otepwrong version?02:04
_ubuntuI ran the script, but I can't modify files02:04
phreakysyea, maybe02:05
csenger_ubuntu, you can remount the partition02:05
csenger_ubuntu, or unmount it, change fstab acording to your config, mount again02:06
csengerwhats the line for the partiotion in /etc/fstab ?02:07
otepei senger02:07
csengerotep, ei ??02:07
_ubuntunow I must go thenk you for all!!!! bye!02:08
otep=D if you have a 40GB hd how would you partition it?02:08
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otepim currently using a 10GB here and im thinking of ditching my xp and install kubuntu instead02:08
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luiginoso anyone doesn't know 02:12
luiginohow to make enlightenment starting in kubuntu?02:12
M3ocs-D4rksunluigino02:13
apokryphosluigino: ok, back. 02:17
apokryphosluigino: to clarify, the problem is that kdm doesn't show kde as an option for logging in, right?02:17
luiginook wb  apokryphos  :)02:18
luiginowell.. here at the boot it starts kde login manager plus kde02:18
luiginoand not the entrance + enlightenment02:18
apokryphosentrance? Is that its login-manager?02:18
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luiginosisi02:19
apokryphosIs enlightenment there not selectable from "Sessions"?02:19
luiginoyes02:19
luiginoSessions?02:19
luiginohere I don't see any window that tells me any window manager02:19
apokryphosluigino: in KDM, the login-manager. Can you select enlightenment to login to?02:19
luiginono I removed kd,02:20
luiginokdm02:20
apokryphosyou want to change your window manager for KDE, or you want to login to enlightenment?02:20
luiginothe second option02:20
apokryphosluigino: ok, so what login manager are you using now?02:20
luiginoI want to login to enlightenment02:20
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luiginoactually since it doesn't work, I'm using the default one02:20
luiginoin this case kde02:21
apokryphosluigino: you said you didn't have kdm...02:21
apokryphosluigino: are you hitting startx or something and it's starting kde?02:21
phreakysok, dling kubuntu02:21
phreakys:)02:21
luiginoprolly its startin somewhere kde02:21
luiginoin fact having removed the kdm02:22
luiginoit shouldnt neither start kde02:22
apokryphosKDE can start without kdm, it doesn't need it at all.02:27
apokryphosWhat login manager are you using? Or you don't know?02:27
luiginommm I guess i can't identify what login manager its using02:27
apokryphosluigino: when you start up your computer there's no graphical manager where you put in your username and your pass?02:27
luiginoits a graphical screen with an User and Password to enter02:27
apokryphosluigino: ok :). What colour?02:27
apokryphosRegardless of which one you're using, you can login to enlightenment from there02:27
luiginoblue... in the little window there's also a button with the enter key like in the keyboard 02:27
apokryphosThat's KDM :)02:27
apokryphosYou can login to enlightenment easily from kdm02:27
luiginook weird... since I should have removed kdm but oh well let's see how to add enlightement in kdm02:27
luigino:)02:27
apokryphosIf you click on the home icon (or the other one) in the bottom-left of the screen, there should be a "sessions"02:27
apokryphosFrom there you can select Enlightenment02:27
luiginommmm02:27
luiginothe home icon?02:27
apokryphosOnce you're at the KDM screen, you can select which session -- which desktop environment -- to login to from there. It's one of the icons in the bottom-left; I forget which, since I don't really use it02:28
luiginoah ok lemme check02:28
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luiginooh yeah02:30
luiginoit worked02:30
apokryphos=)02:30
luiginobut what if I'd like to start the entrance login-manager instead of kdm?02:31
apokryphosluigino: how did you isntall that? It's not the repo02:31
apokryphosanyhow, you should be able to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure entrance, and the option to use it as the display [login]  manager should be there02:31
luiginook lemme try02:32
luiginoit didn't asked me any options...02:33
apokryphosluigino: just took you back to command line?02:34
apokryphos(ignore earilier comment.. it is in the repo; I forgot that I commented it out)02:34
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luigino;)02:35
apokryphosHm, it isn't there as an option. Not quite sure how to select it, then...02:35
luiginohmmm somewhere it should be a place where it starts kdm02:36
luiginoso I could replace with entrance02:36
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JohnFluxhey all!02:39
apokryphosluigino: check in that thread for a possible solution02:39
phreakysis there a good program to make a backup of the whole system?02:39
apokryphosstill seems to bring a few problems, as I see.02:39
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apokryphosJohnFlux: hey :)02:39
luiginoit's weird anyway I thought with a .xinitrc I could make starting entrance instead of kdm but wasn't that02:39
JohnFluxdoes the default kernel only support 1 cpu?02:40
JohnFluxdmesg says something like "processor 0..... processor 1 disabled exceed NR_CPU=102:40
JohnFlux"02:40
JohnFluxor something similiar02:40
JohnFluxI have a pentium 402:40
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apokryphosI hope not; hoping for a dual processor in a few weeks02:40
JohnFlux(it's a hyperthingy that counts as two processors)02:40
phreakysall p4s have hyperthingies dont they?02:41
luiginoapokryphos: do u know the hilarious thing? 02:41
apokryphosluigino: nope; fire away02:41
luiginoI installed enlightenment with also the eutils which contains also for example a virtual post-it but it didn't installed it really as I see because when I start enlightenment i don't see it...02:43
apokryphosI used it briefly; it was nice to play around with but very incomplete. 02:44
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luiginooh well right now I'll do a thing:02:46
luiginoI'll go at the bar to take an espresso coffee02:46
luiginoahahhaha02:46
apokryphos:)02:46
luiginoI'll see u in a few...when Ill back from bar02:47
luigino:)02:47
luiginothank you for all for now man02:47
luigino:)02:47
JohnFluxah hyperthreading is off by default for security reasons02:47
JohnFluxyou need to do rt=on02:47
luiginosee u later02:48
nikkiaphreakys: no, not all of them02:49
phreakysah ok02:50
nikkiaphreakys: only the 800MHz FSB and later02:50
phreakysah cool02:50
nikkia(Pentium 4 C ? iirc)02:50
phreakysive such a thingy02:51
phreakysdo i need to enable anything to make it active02:51
phreakys?02:51
nikkiaphreakys: you need a SMP kernel02:51
phreakysaha02:51
phreakysis it in kubuntu possible?02:51
nikkiaphreakys: there should be a SMP kernel in the list of alternate kernel versions02:51
nikkiai686-SMP or something02:51
phreakyscool, is it installable on setup?02:51
nikkiaphreakys: no, i think you have to apt-get it02:51
nikkiathe default kernel from install is i386 which is pretty much useless :)02:52
phreakysah allright...tnx for the info. ill try it as soon kubuntu is running02:52
phreakysdoes is make a big difference?02:52
nikkiaphreakys: not a huge difference, IME02:52
nikkiayou'd notice a bigger difference on a real SMP machine (dual CPU or dual core)02:53
phreakyscool02:53
nikkiasome things are faster with hyperthreading turned on and a SMP kernel tho02:53
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phreakyswill be a cool thing, if games would use the performance increase of multiple cpus02:54
nikkiamy P4 2.8 here is the old non-HT version, my P4 2.8 at work is the HT version, they're mostly about the same performance-wise, but you do notice some little things that run better with HT, and there are situations where HT avoids non-responsiveness02:54
nikkiaphreakys: given that the Athlon 64 X2 and the Pentium 4 D are both out, i think you'll start to see more support for SMP02:55
phreakysyea, i guess it could make a big difference02:55
nikkiai used to have a SMP P2, it was alright, some things were clearly better02:56
phreakysarent there compatibility problems with a smp kernel?02:56
nikkiaphreakys: not many02:56
phreakysk, cool02:56
phreakysi started with linux 2 days ago with a debian distro02:56
phreakysbut went to ubuntu02:57
phreakysnow dling kubuntu :)02:57
phreakysits so hard to install a radeon driver on debian :/02:57
nikhi does anyon no hwo to solve the slower internet on linux problem02:57
niki fdun a lot of ppl have the problem in forums and stuff but i ahevnt foudn a solution02:57
nikin xp my transfer rate is 281 kb and in kubuntu its 5002:57
nikkianik, i don't think there's any inherent slower networking, it just depends on your network card02:58
nikwell a ton of ppl have had the same problm thoguh02:59
nikkiai can max out my connection speed on both XP and linux equally easily02:59
niki tried changin the ipv6 setting03:00
nikbut ti didnt help03:00
stibbyis apache 2 better than 1.3?03:00
nikbut y is the dffernce so drastic03:00
nikwen i ran the roadband speed test03:01
phreakysi dont think you'll see a big difference stibby03:01
nikbroadband*03:01
nikkianik, as i said, its probably your network card03:01
stibbyexcept php5 doesnt like apache2 :(03:01
nikwhat do u mean by that though?03:01
nikis it somethign specific03:01
nikkiai can hit 600-700KB/s just as easily in both XP and linux, so i can't see how there is some inherent slowdown03:01
phreakysstick with whats working for you03:01
nikits not everybodies03:01
nikbut in the forum i foudn atleast 5 posts of ppl having the exact same problem03:02
nikas well as when i goggled it in other linux ofrums03:02
nikso tis not everybody03:02
nikkia5 people on the forums could just as easily be 5 people that have misconfigured something :)03:03
nikkia500 or 5000 people, i might start to believe its linux's fault, but not 5 :)03:03
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niko no u misunderstod im not at all sayign its a linux fault03:07
nikim jstu asking for a way to solve the problem since it sems to be a quite common mosconfiguration03:07
nikkianik, every  situation is likely different03:07
nikkiathere probably is no 'simple' solution for everyone03:07
nikkiasome ISPs use a higher MTU, for example03:07
ztonzyapokryphos, hello03:07
nikkiaif your MTU is set to 1500 (the default) but your ISP is using a higher MTU, then yes, it'll be slow, but you can't say that changing the MTU to some other value would fix it03:07
ztonzynikkia, hi03:08
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phreakyshm, kubuntu distro allmost baked and ready to serve03:08
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apokryphosztonzy: hey :)03:09
nikkianik, my first recommendation, would be to boot back to XP, and write down *every* detail about the network settings you can03:10
nikkiathen check that the ones in linux aren't radically different03:10
nikkiaif they are identical, then the primary suspect would have to be that the network card in your PC has a badly written driver03:10
phreakysyea, kill the nice03:11
phreakysnic03:11
nikkiaphreakys: kill?03:12
phreakysi suggest using a good old hammer03:12
phreakys;)03:12
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phreakyssometimes its a good feleing03:12
phreakysbut only if its cheap junk :)03:12
niki once smashed a router with a baseball bat03:13
nikit was fun03:13
nikim in xp now where re the network settings tht i have to check in particualar03:14
phreakyslol03:17
phreakysyea, the router is a good baseball03:17
phreakysvideo recorders are fun to03:17
phreakysbut wear protective glasses03:17
phreakyseletronicstuff flying around :)03:18
phreakysdoe kubuntu have 3d acceleration installed auto?03:18
phreakysive got no direct rendering installed yet :/03:19
phreakysglxinfo 03:19
PieDphreakys: what graphic card ?03:21
phreakysa radeon 960003:21
PieD(nvidia is better for linux)03:21
phreakysim allready happy that ubuntu supports the card in 2d03:21
phreakysyea, i know03:21
phreakysi bought it while i was on windows03:21
nikkiaphreakys: you're probably using the opensource driver03:21
phreakysi guess03:22
nikkiawhich means you still have the nightmare called 'installing ati drivers' to come03:22
phreakysomg03:22
phreakysits necessary for 3d stuff?03:22
nikkiayes03:22
phreakysdamn, ive done that installing 3 times on debian, but only messed up my x03:22
phreakysits a nightmare indeed03:22
nikkiaits not easy on any distro03:22
phreakyswell, if that installscript was working allright, it would be03:23
phreakysits just a piece of crap driver03:23
phreakysand im not that handy 2, i must admit03:23
phreakysone of the reasons i installed ubuntu03:23
nikkiato make matters worse, you have to do it *each time the kernel is updated* :)03:23
phreakysomg03:23
phreakyswith nvidia, its not that bad?03:24
nikkiano, nvidia is pretty easy03:24
phreakyshm03:24
phreakysi need money and quick03:25
phreakysill just buy an nvidea03:25
phreakysyea, kubuntu dl finished03:26
phreakyslets burn03:26
PieDwith nvidia, you have to install one package, execute one command03:26
PieDand that's all03:26
phreakyslike its supposed to be03:27
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phreakysok03:34
phreakyslets reinstall :)03:34
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equexhell ill just take my nvidia gf4mx and replace the ati9200 with it03:45
equexis that a good idea03:45
equexits gonne perform better under linux anyway, right03:46
equexi mean, i am getting 300 fps with glxgears03:46
equexits a joke03:46
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nxv_which is the default kde irc client? konversation or kvirc?03:58
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graytronhello. :) is it normal to have the gnome icon left in the upper left hand corner of the system after apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; /etc/init.d/gdm stop; /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?04:00
graytron(and login)04:00
graytroni mean... i first installed Ubuntu only from the Ubuntu installation CD and then did the above04:01
graytroni don't think i'm running KDE :)04:02
equexnah its not working04:02
equextried the same04:02
equexbetter just get the right install to begin with04:03
equexie kubuntu04:03
graytroni'll try rm -rf /home/gray/* first :D04:03
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phreakyszah04:03
phreakyszhi04:03
phreakyszjust installed kubuntu04:04
phreakyszwhere is that installer?04:04
phreakyszsynaptic?04:04
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phreakyszgot it04:06
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_jeffhey guys04:25
DeathRaiderHi04:25
_jeffcan you guys help me get my wlan working?04:26
_jeffwhats the difference between linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-doc??04:29
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redguy_jeff: linux-wlan-doc would be linux-wlan documentation04:30
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equexcould there be anything to my theory that after youve run your first OpenGL app after reboot, the chanches of X crashing increases a lot ?04:33
equex(related to ATI driver troubles)04:33
equexbecause last night something weird happened04:33
equexi had been playing BiliardGL04:33
equexand 5 minuts after i quit the game, the frame buffer from the game became visible and then went to console and spewed 100s of error04:34
equexs04:34
equexthen it said something like :Unable to access memory at virtual adress 000000204:34
equexthen it hangs for good04:34
_jeffthanks redguy04:37
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jeff_guys?04:52
jeff_can anyone help me?05:01
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nxv_how do i switch from gdm to kdm als default display manager?05:12
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_stefHello :-)05:24
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_jeffhey guys05:39
_jeffim trying to get my linksys wireless network card to work on linux05:40
_jeffdoes anyone have any experience with wireless networking on linux?05:41
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AlmindorI get "unable to open /media/cdrom0", it's a permissions problem...05:43
Almindorfunky it started just like that..05:43
Almindorany ideas? I get owner 400, group 401 with drwx...... permissions once I mount it05:43
Almindordidn't fiddle with udev05:44
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Almindoranyone?05:45
phreakyshi05:45
phreakyswhats with kopete and msn?05:46
phreakysthere seems to be a bug in the kubuntu kopete distribution05:46
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phreakysanyone knows a fix for kopete?05:47
Almindorgaim05:48
phreakyshm, ok...05:48
phreakysjust kill kopete?05:48
ubuntukubuntu rocks :)05:48
phreakysyea, i just installed it05:48
phreakysit looks great05:48
ubunturunning the live cd right now05:48
phreakysah05:48
phreakyssweet huh?05:48
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ubuntustill considering installing.. i always have to compile a new kernel because my laptop has a fucked DSDT table so no battery display with unpatched kernel05:49
ubuntuyep indeed05:49
ubuntumuch coolerthan knoppix05:49
phreakysyea, and its so damn easy to use05:49
phreakyskde rocks btw05:49
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phreakysi only need to reinstall apache and stuff and im back in busines :)05:50
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TMSany ideas why konqueror might freeze each time I open a website with flash? I have the libflash-mozplugin.so06:04
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phreakyshm06:05
phreakysthe kde-menueditor is not saving in kubuntu06:06
phreakyssome1 knows why?06:06
equexphreakys: did you move a lot of menus around and shit ?06:08
equexi did the same and kmenuedit aint working anymore06:08
phreakysehm, i moved some to the desktop06:08
equexluckily, after 2 weeks, the debian menu started working06:08
phreakysnothing special06:08
equexso i still get access to the apps06:08
phreakyshm, found any fix for it?06:08
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equexwell, i can only suggest looking at the xml file that kde makes for the menu06:09
equextry tidying it up06:09
equexi couldnt be botheres06:09
phreakyshm, where is it?06:09
equexi forgot :p06:09
phreakysheh ok06:09
phreakysis that the smeg menu editor?06:10
equexno kmenuedit06:10
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equexsmeg is for gnome06:11
phreakysah ok06:11
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phreakyshm...shortkeys gone to :/06:16
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NOVAhi i have a one problem with my DVD RW06:37
NOVAmy kubuntu dont identify any hardware06:37
NOVAon the dmeg | grep hd06:37
NOVAonly HDA and HDD my DVD-ROM06:37
OculusAquilaeis it working in other operating systems?06:38
NOVAbut my LG DVD RW dont see on my dmeg06:38
NOVAyes in XP :-(06:38
OculusAquilaehm06:39
NOVAmy kernel OculusAquilae is 2.6.10-506:42
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OculusAquilaehm06:42
NOVAOculusAquilae: one idea06:42
NOVAplease! :-(06:42
OculusAquilaei think about what is going wrong06:42
NOVAaja06:42
OculusAquilaewhich dvd-rw is it?06:42
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NOVAwait 06:42
NOVALG Model GSA-4082B06:42
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OculusAquilaeis it in /etc/fstab ?06:43
NOVA/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       006:44
NOVA/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       006:44
NOVAyes06:45
OculusAquilaeor is it possible that the jumper at the device is on Cable select?06:45
NOVAnop06:45
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NOVAis master en ide206:45
OculusAquilaeor first have you tried to mount it by foot?06:45
phreakysarg06:45
phreakyscant show drives anymore :/06:46
phreakysexternal places doesnt show up anymore06:46
OculusAquilaephreakys: breezy?06:46
phreakysbreezy?06:46
phreakysjust installed the regular kubuntu06:46
phreakysnothing special06:46
OculusAquilaephreakys: ah, hoary hedgehog06:47
phreakysyes06:47
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phreakysi allready got two errors06:47
phreakysmenus wont edit, and the external places thing with cdrom and stuff wont show06:47
phreakyswhat could it be?06:47
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OculusAquilaeNOVA: have you tried to mount it via "sudo mount /dev/hdc"?06:48
OculusAquilaephreakys: have you done something strange06:48
phreakysyea, i uninstalled kopete06:48
NOVAount: el dispositivo especial /dev/hdc no existe06:48
phreakysthats about everything i did so far. except some dragging with menuitems06:49
NOVAOculusAquilae: this device dont exist06:49
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OculusAquilaeNOVA: have you tried to look in google, i don't find anything, but perhaps you find something06:50
phreakysmedia:/ doesnt show anything in konqueror06:50
phreakyshow can i reload original kubuntu settings to the system?06:51
phreakysexcept reinstalling ?06:52
OculusAquilaephreakys: you could rename your /home/username/.kde to .kde-old06:52
phreakyscool, ill try06:53
OculusAquilaebut its a hidden folder06:53
phreakysic 06:53
OculusAquilaeand then press strg+alt+backspace to restart kde and X06:53
phreakyswhats the command for rename? :/06:54
uniqmv oldname newname06:55
phreakyscool06:55
phreakysok, done06:55
OculusAquilaerenaming is the same than moving :-)06:55
phreakysthere is a new .kde now06:55
OculusAquilaeshould be06:56
phreakyscool06:56
phreakysit works again06:56
phreakys:D06:56
phreakystnx06:56
OculusAquilaenp06:56
phreakyspfew, allready counted for a new installation06:56
phreakyshope editing menus work to again06:56
phreakysyea :D06:57
phreakysgreat06:57
phreakysthis saves me ALOT of work06:57
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phreakysis there a setupoption where i can disable singleclick btw?06:58
OculusAquilaeyes06:58
phreakysok, tnx...ill look for it06:59
OculusAquilaein the control center at peripherals -> mouse 06:59
phreakysah,tnx06:59
OculusAquilaenp06:59
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phreakysyou know which packages are needed for apache/php/mysql?07:05
phreakysi have mysql-server, php4 and apache07:06
phreakyshope thatll be enough :/07:06
phreakyslol07:08
phreakysthats the fastest apache installation ive ever seen07:08
ubuntuphreakys: :))07:09
phreakysjust gotto find out where it installed07:09
ubuntuconfigs in /etc/apache2, document root in /var/www by default07:10
phreakyscool :D07:10
phreakyshehe07:10
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zAo^which version of KDE will be in Breezy final? 3.4.2?07:17
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Tm_lag3.5 I hope07:17
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zAo^any sites with goals?07:17
OculusAquilaeor 3.4.207:17
zAo^when is 3.5 planned to be released?07:17
OculusAquilaeend of october :-(07:18
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zAo^hmm.. guess we have to work with 3.4.2. When is KDE 4.0 planned? Saw some nice things 07:18
OculusAquilaezAo^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuRoadmap07:19
zAo^thanks. Needed that one.07:19
OculusAquilaeKDE 4 is planned for october 200607:19
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zAo^Quoted: If 3.5 is released shortly after Breezy we may delay the Kubuntu release to be able to use 3.5 otherwise we will make another release with KDE 3.507:20
OculusAquilaewhen is breezy about to be released?07:20
OculusAquilaearound 10th?07:20
OculusAquilaeperhaps we could get in kubuntu07:21
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OculusAquilaeok i'm afk07:21
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zAo^I hope it gets in Kubuntu. KDE 3.4.1 crashes every 10 mins here, so Im stuck to Gnome 07:21
Oculus|afkhm07:21
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zAo^no error msg; nothing. Tried everything I could :(07:22
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deanenjoy the silence...07:24
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PieDzAo^: what do you mean by crashes ?07:27
PieDkicker crashes ?07:27
PieDthe background crashes ?07:27
zAo^total freezes and Xorg crashes without anty messages 07:28
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PieDwhat graphic card ?07:29
PieDwith which driver ?07:29
PieDdid you look at the Xorg logs ?07:29
zAo^PieD, nothing in there. I used a ATI 9600 Pro and a GF 4 Ti 420007:30
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PieDdid you enable translucency in KDE ?07:31
PieDwhere do the KDE packages come from ?07:31
PieDcan't you try upgrading to KDE 3.4.2 ?07:31
equexhold it hold it just two seconds07:31
equexwhat did you just say07:31
equexcan tranluceny trash kdE ?07:32
equexand freeze the frigging box ?07:32
PieDit can crash X.org07:32
equexomfg07:32
PieDespecially with ATI cards07:32
equexHAHAHA 07:32
PieDthat's because of buggy drivers07:32
equex<-- ATI + tranclucney07:32
PieDwindows translucency off course07:32
equexyes my kicker is that07:33
PieD...07:33
PieDkicker translucent is a hack07:33
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PieDit shows the wallpaper on kicker background07:33
PieDnothing more07:33
PieDyou can try having a window under kicker : you won't see it07:33
equexok back to normal settings now07:34
equexlet s i my uptime goes beyond 24 hour07:34
PieDI was only speaking about true windows translucency (with shadows)07:34
equexsee if*07:35
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equexwhen i left windows xp (home), my record was 8 months uptime, 6 of them i stayed connected to the same irc server07:37
apokryphoswoah07:37
equexthis shit freezes every 24 hours07:37
equexand that reboot of the xp was voluntary07:37
equex:p07:37
equexso im still a little sceptical about linux07:38
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equexbut i guess it will straigthen it out when i get used to it07:38
OculusAquilaeequex: what graphics card do you have?07:38
equexati920007:38
OculusAquilaethats not normal that it chashes :-)07:39
OculusAquilaeor freezes07:39
OculusAquilaewith which driver?07:39
equexxserver-xorg-fglrx07:39
equextried the propetiary drivers too07:39
equexnewest07:40
OculusAquilaeati is often a problem, but i don't have ati07:40
equexyeah so i hear. i do have a nvidia gf4mx in the other box07:40
equexmaybe i should switch, even 9200 is alot newer07:41
OculusAquilaebut i don't know if that is the problem, but maybe07:41
equexand i'd like to keep its performance on this machine07:41
zAo^my ati was stable for more than a week with gnome, so..07:41
OculusAquilaeoh, ati card are ofthen much slower under linux than windows07:42
OculusAquilaenvidia has about the same speed07:42
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Jeezisjust an aside to those of you with ati card troubles, try cruising the gentoo forums, thats where i found a few wiki's and howto's that helped with my radeon 320m igp07:53
Jeezisi'm a kubuntu user all the way :-p but their forums did help07:54
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zAo^can conquerer play the movies at gamespot? 08:00
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stibbyis a swap drive extended or primary?08:03
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PieDstibby: it can be both08:08
stibbythanks08:08
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equexok Jeevan 08:14
equexJeezis: 08:14
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dominicDies ist ein Test, bin doch mal gespannt 08:38
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sporesanyone alive here?08:58
tvo:)08:59
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EasterSunshinewe are all dead zombies like in residental evil09:15
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tvo:D09:20
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hyperactivecrondwhere is apxs for apache2 installed by default?09:30
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FestnetzHi @ll.09:32
FestnetzI've got a problem with my DSL-access: Everytime I log in it takes another device (ppp0, ppp1, ppp2). My iptables-script just manages ppp0. How to get the system to use ppp0 only?09:33
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FestnetzI've got a problem with my DSL-access: Everytime I log in it takes another device (ppp0, ppp1, ppp2). My iptables-script just manages ppp0. How to get the system to use ppp0 only?10:25
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zAo^thanks God: back on KDE :)10:50
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Tm_laguhm11:04
bjvhm, where is w32codecs?11:07
bjvive got both uni and multi, no dice.11:07
apokryphos!info w32codecs11:07
Tm_lag=)11:07
apokryphoshm, must be in hoary-extras11:07
apokryphos!w32codecs11:07
ubotuI heard w32codecs is set of codecs needed to play common audio/video formats (wmv etc). You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).  AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439911:07
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bjvthanks11:07
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bjv:\11:15
bjvapt-get update parses this line 'deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted'  and i dont get any errors11:15
bjvstill cant search/install though.11:16
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bjv*fixed.11:19
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[Surge] Where's the best place to start looking for X server startup errors?11:37
bjvum, /var/logs/xwhatever.0.log11:38
bjvor similar11:38
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lrmedelhi all11:53
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Number7hey room11:55
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