[12:43] <sivang> jordi: Howdy :)
[01:47] <hashar> doh
[01:47] <hashar> need to convert my applications language files to .po .pot :p
[02:47] <ddaa> jamesh: I'm looking into integrating python with gedit. I have setup a trivial "python hello world" plugin already and looked at pyphany for inspiration, but I was quite scared by all the GNU standards goo and glib-gtk-gnome voodoo that involved.
[02:49] <ddaa> jamesh: do you know some synthetic online resources about making a gnu standards compliant package (autoconf-automake-gettext-libtool-pkgtool-whatever), using the pygtk binding generation magic, and that sort of things
[02:50] <ddaa> also, using the gnome terminal widget to hack toghether a python console instead of the hack used by pyphany
[02:50] <ddaa> (though I could cannibalise that one easily)
[02:51] <ddaa> also I'm unclear about how I should handle the "provide python support for gedit" case. Should I make a python loader plugin that supplement the plugin dialog of gedit, or should I look for a way to make it seamless?
[03:18] <sivang> hey ddaa 
[03:18] <sivang> ddaa: some interesting stuff you do there :) you want to turn gedit to a Python IDE ?
[03:19] <ddaa> Just dicking around.
[03:19] <sivang> ddaa: what ado you want to do python plugin for gedit?
[03:20] <ddaa> I have some ideas about where I would like to go. Mostly, I got there from gobby.
[03:20] <ddaa> I was interested in collaborative text editing for a little while, and gobby is most promising project I have found so far. But it's C++, so I will not contribute to it directly for fun.
[03:21] <sivang> I see. does it allow concurrent modifications?
[03:22] <ddaa> sabfl suggested integrating collaborative editing into gedit, so I'm thinking about making python binding for gedit, binding for gobby, then glue that toghether.
[03:22] <ddaa> sivang: I talk about it a bit in my blog
[03:22] <sivang> Gobby looks pretty nice, yeah
[03:22] <sivang> ddaa: can I please have the link?
[03:22] <ddaa> http://ddaa.net/blog
[03:22] <sivang> ddaa: thx
[03:23] <sivang> ddaa: was trying to ping jamesh about lpint-bonobo, is he supposed to come online today?
[03:24] <ddaa> It's sunday. Sometimes people are around sometimes not. They are really required to be there only on weekdays.
[03:25] <sivang> ddaa: k, was just asking no demands posted :)
[03:25] <sivang> ddaa: libre software link is broken, btw
[03:25] <ddaa> ha?
[03:25] <ddaa> bah, only one I did not test
[03:25] <sivang> ddaa: in the *very* intersting essay you have there on the first palge :)
[03:26] <sivang> ddaa: s/palge/page/
[03:27] <ddaa> fixed link, thanks
[03:28] <bob2> nifty
[03:29] <sivang> ddaa: no prob, nice story. I wish more companies would have worked that way :)
[03:30] <ddaa> That's quite 21st century thing, and it's quite difficult and relies on a limited pool of intelligent and higly motivated individuals. I'm not sure how far it can scale.
[03:30] <sivang> ddaa: probably true. I can see lost of the "corporate" way of doing things compensates for lack of competence or skills :-/
[03:31] <sivang> s/lost/lots/
[03:31] <ddaa> Yeah, Sturgeon's law.
[03:31] <ddaa> 99% of everything is grunge.
[03:31] <ddaa> 99% of programmers are not good programmers.
[03:32] <ddaa> and 99% of execs are probably completely unable to work in such a setting.
[03:46] <sivang> ddaa: anyway, there is  alot more then just doing stuff efficiently and with quality in the distributed development school,
[03:47] <sivang> ddaa: it becomes plain fun :)
[03:48] <ddaa> somehow things seem to get less fun when you are paid for doing them, but as job goes that's a a good company.
[03:49] <ddaa> even though some people may disagree, for understandable reasons
[03:50] <sivang> ofcourse. I think that it taking efforts in supporting what I think its a revolution, even if the work is less fun now and then, the general goal is till worth while and can give motivation.
[03:50] <sivang> s/its/is/
[03:50] <sivang> (e.g., supporting open source, ppromoting it, making it accessible to everyone)
[03:53] <ddaa> I'd like to discuss that more, but I have some IRL appointments
[03:53] <ddaa> things like walking around in a park with family
[03:53] <sivang> ddaa: sure, thanks for chatting
[06:12] <sivang> hey Keybuk , 'sup?
[06:16] <Keybuk> hey
[07:59] <seadog_> hi
[07:59] <seadog_> any rosetta admin online?
[08:06] <seadog_> ok then :) bye
[09:50] <kostkon> hi
[09:52] <kostkon> i was doing a little of translating and I stumbled across these "_". Are these mnemonics, do we have to honour them. New to translation stuff.
[09:54] <kostkon> anyone?!