[12:05] <seadog_> hi
[12:33] <mpt> hello seadog_
[12:36] <seadog_> I am looking for a rosetta admin, anyone online?
[12:37] <stub> Does anyone know the status of the Python CVS  import into the bazaar archives?
[01:01] <spiv> stub: It bombs out with "Parser error: Unable to find filename -- parser in bad state?" at the moment.
[01:01] <spiv> Fairly early in the process, too.
[01:01] <spiv> Yeah, it dies in under 10 minutes.
[01:03] <stub> I'm more interested if it is being worked on and it it looks like it will be available in days, weeks or months. cvs2svn work fine on the tree, which makes Bazaar 1+2 look pretty sick in comparison since people can't even open the door ;)
[01:05] <spiv> stub: That I can't answer :)
[01:06] <spiv> ddaa should know, but he's got a holiday today.
[01:06] <ddaa> spiv: technically, I'm _always_ on holiday when it's 1am
[01:06] <mpt> seadog_: Neither of them are available at the moment
[01:07] <ddaa> Python CVS.
[01:07] <ddaa> rlog parsing confusion
[01:07] <ddaa> bad, bad
[01:07] <spiv> ddaa: Oh, hello.
[01:07] <seadog_> mpt, ok thnx
[01:07] <spiv> ddaa: You shouldn't be here then :P
[01:07] <spiv> ddaa: Have a good weekend?
[01:07] <mpt> seadog_: Try again in about 12~16 hours
[01:07] <ddaa> Not enough time to work on my things
[01:08] <ddaa> But otherwise, pretty good.
[01:08] <seadog_> mpt, ok
[01:08] <ddaa> spiv: I'm suddenly under a lot of pressure to fix cscvs problems, and my pipe is not exactly clear without that
[01:09] <ddaa> I'd like to do everything people are asking me, but something has to give, I already prioritized some time for the twisted import problem before finishing my current task (url support in importd)
[01:10] <ddaa> because lifeless said it would be easy, I do not think I can afford to to stick the python import problem there too
[01:11] <spiv> ddaa: Yeah, I can completely understand.
[01:11] <spiv> ddaa: I guess the answer to this is "no", but is there anything that would make your life easier at this point other than cloning you or lifeless?
[01:12] <ddaa> well, for one thing, talk sabdfl into the idea I already have enough work for _not_ doing launchpad development as well
[01:13] <ddaa> at least not until the current issues are fixed or we get more workforce on importd things
[01:14] <ddaa> I'd like to do more launchpad, but there's just does not seem to be time.
[01:14] <spiv> Yeah.  You do need to sleep occasionally after all :)
[01:15] <ddaa> TBH I was quite burnt up after the imports death sprint.
[01:15] <ddaa> I certainly used to be more productive than I am now.
[01:16] <ddaa> I think we could really use one more pair of hands on cscvs and importd
[01:16] <ddaa> spiv: you are the best candidate for that, if you have some time.
[01:17] <ddaa> as you are close to buildbot guys and have been a consistent cscvs reviewer
[01:17] <ddaa> spiv: how would you feel about that?
[01:17] <spiv> That's a good point.
[01:18] <spiv> In principle, I'd be happy to work on it.
[01:18] <spiv> I need to sit down and figure out exactly what tasks I need to do for the next little while, because I think I may be close to over-committed already.
[01:18] <spiv> But assuming I had the time, I think I'd enjoy working on that.
[01:19] <ddaa> That would cool. I'd get to work more on some other things (like launchpad), I'd be happy to get out of my ghetto, and sabdfl would be happy to see me work on the branches stuff.
[01:20] <ddaa> And I'd get to review your code for a change :P
[01:20] <spiv> :)
[01:43] <spiv> lifeless: You may find this interesting: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-August/055399.html
[02:07] <UbuWu> hello, I need help filing a bug
[02:07] <UbuWu> I want to file a bug on soundconverter in malone, but it says its package name is an invalid value
[02:10] <spiv> Hmm, yeah that package seems to be missing for some reason.
[02:11] <UbuWu> It is quite new, maybe that's the problem...?
[02:11] <spiv> Yeah, probably.
[02:11] <spiv> I'm not sure what the exact process is.
[02:12] <UbuWu> is there any other way to report the bug then?
[02:15] <bob2> you could try emailing whoever touched it last
[02:15] <bob2> you can find them by reading changelog.Debian.gz
[02:16] <UbuWu> ok, I will try that, thanks
[02:32] <stub> What was the deadline set for Launchpad development using baz-ng? Was it end of August? Or am I getting confused with something else?
[02:32] <spiv> stub: That's something else.
[02:32] <spiv> stub: It was by UBZ, iirc.
[02:32] <spiv> stub: By the end of August lifeless will be working on baz-ng more-or-less full time, I think was what you're confusing?
[02:33] <stub> probably
[02:42] <mpt> "RocketFuel to bzr" is right after UBZ
[02:42] <mpt> er, no
[02:42] <mpt> right after Breezy release
[02:42] <mpt> late October
[02:42] <spiv> It has to be before UBZ, because of the pie contest :)
[02:42] <mpt> right
[08:22] <sivang> HI all
[08:22] <sivang> s/HI/Hi/
[08:33] <jamesh> hi sivang 
[08:33] <jamesh> you wanted to talk about the lpint-bonobo stuff?
[09:02] <sivang> jamesh: yeah, what point did you guys reach? I saw the wiki was updated with only gedit, and evo is still pending. What about the applest?
[09:03] <sivang> jamesh: (I didn't see the applets there, plus I gnome-games seem not to contain the helper items - is this still due to the setgid problem?)
[09:04] <jamesh> sivang: I integrated your lpint-bonobo library into the main launchpad-integration package
[09:04] <jamesh> sivang: few small changes: s/bonnobo/bonobo/, and performing the translatation explicitly since we want it to occur in the launchpad-integration translation domain instead of the app's translation domain
[09:06] <jamesh> I'm not sure what the issue is with the gnome-games stuff
[09:07] <jamesh> they are setgid, but they fork on startup and drop privs
[09:07] <jamesh> so there is a privileged child process that writes to the score file
[09:08] <jamesh> the main app wouldn't have any privs to pass on to launchpad-integration helper
[11:02] <sivang> morning mpt 
[11:24] <spiv> stub: You broke pqm?
[11:24] <stub> eh?
[11:25] <stub> heh... 
[11:27] <Keybuk> isn't "broken" a ground-state for pqm?
[11:29] <spiv> Keybuk: That's why we feed it rocketfuel.
[11:29] <stub> pqm seems pretty solid - it is just more patient at waiting for tests to complete than we are ;)
[11:38] <wdh> hi ppls.. When translating from English to Dutch, i see that a translation for both the singualr form ant the plural should be translated. How would i do that in launchpad?
[11:38] <wdh> hmmmz.. i should learn typing all over again :P
[12:04] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Drop Processor.owner and ProcessorFamily.owner columns (patch-2254: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)
[12:05] <jamesh> wdh: if the application has been written to allow you to translate both singular and plural forms for a string, then Rosetta will let you
[12:05] <jamesh> wdh: if you see a case where you should be able to but can't, it would probably require an application modification to fix
[12:12] <wdh> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1267  << here is a screenshot of the situation.. 
[12:12] <wdh> not sure how i would fix this though
[12:13] <wdh> uhm.. i seem to be blind :S
[12:14] <spiv> Hmm.  Perhaps if the input boxes were labelled "Dutch singular" and "Dutch plural" rather than "Dutch" and "", it would help.
[12:15] <spiv> I guess it's not a big issue.
[12:16] <jamesh> spiv: would probably help, but in some languages it won't just be two boxes
[12:16] <jamesh> some languages have more than 2 plural forms
[12:19] <jamesh> the expression for russian is: n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2
[12:19] <jamesh> 3 forms
[12:27] <Keybuk> is that the same for Polish?
[12:27] <Keybuk> or is Polish even more insane?
[12:28] <Keybuk> google say Polish has 5 forms (1; 2,3,4; 5-12; 22-24; 25-31; etc.)
[12:28] <jamesh> in the sample data, Polish uses: n==1 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2
[12:28] <jamesh> 3 forms
[12:28] <jamesh> Welsh has 4 forms: n==1 ? 0 : n==2 ? 1 : (n != 8 || n != 11) ? 2 : 3
[12:28] <jamesh> although I think Telsa said that it really has more forms than that
[12:28] <Keybuk> yeah, it has different forms for both masculine and feminine
[12:29] <Keybuk> and some words undergo mutation when plural
[12:30] <Keybuk> or, even better, the next word undergoes mutation when the previous one is plural
[12:31] <jamesh> that sort of thing can be handled by ngettext though, right?
[12:32] <Keybuk> yeah, just requires either (a) care or (b) ignoring the whole thing ;)
[12:34] <jamesh> I think she said that to get it exactly right, you'd need to pick an appropriate plural form rule to match the actual ngettext uses in the application ...
[12:40] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Update database diagrams (patch-2255: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)
[12:41] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/dists--devel--0: [trivial]  LinkChecker 3.2 (patch-105: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)
[01:24] <sabdfl> spiv lost his spots?
[02:05] <cprov> morning guys
[02:06] <niemeyer> Morning cprov!
[02:10] <cprov> niemeyer: hi niemeyer, how is it going ?
[02:11] <niemeyer> cprov: Everything is fine!
[02:12] <niemeyer> cprov: Working hard on some projects here.. doesn't even look like I'll be moving soon :)
[02:14] <cprov> niemeyer: what are you doing ?
[02:14] <niemeyer> cprov: Working on the Conectiva Linux -> Mandriva Linux migration system
[02:16] <cprov> niemeyer: uhm, I see ...
[02:24] <sivang> niemeyer: wee , sounds like lots of fun :)
[02:25] <niemeyer> sivang: It is indeed :))
[02:25] <sivang> what will be discussed at the upcoming developers meeting?
[02:26] <sivang> niemeyer: you a mandrake/ connectiva maintainer ?
[02:26] <niemeyer> sivang: Right now, yes
[02:27] <sivang> niemeyer: and also a launchpad deveoper?
[02:27] <niemeyer> sivang: Right now, no :))
[02:27] <niemeyer> sivang: But in a couple of weeks these answers should reverse ;)
[02:43] <sivang> niemeyer: heheh. What will you be working on in launchpad? (if it's ok to ask)
[02:44] <niemeyer> sivang: It's certainly ok.. I'll be joining Scott
[03:17] <mpt> jordi: ping
[03:49] <Keybuk> niemeyer: about?
[03:50] <niemeyer> Keybuk: Greetings!
[03:50] <Keybuk> niemeyer: you wrote the docs for the X-Chat Python plugin, right?
[03:50] <niemeyer> Keybuk: Yep
[03:50] <niemeyer> Keybuk: (and the plugin itself :)
[03:51] <Keybuk> don't suppose you have any idea why X-Chat still beeps if you steal a "Channel Msg Hilight" event and return EAT_ALL ?
[03:51] <niemeyer> Keybuk: No idea really.. looks like a bug
[03:52] <Keybuk> yeah, I think it always beeps regardless :-/
[03:54] <niemeyer> You could disable the beep for all highlighted messages, but I suppose you want to do that selectively.
[03:55] <Keybuk> yeah, I was trying to disable it on a per-channel basis
[03:55] <niemeyer> Keybuk: What you could do is disable for all of them, and make the plugin beep for you
[03:56] <niemeyer> I do that, but instead of beeping I raise a knotify window with the message.
[03:56] <Keybuk> there isn't a xchat.beep() thing though, is there?
[03:56] <niemeyer> Nope.. I don't think os
[03:56] <niemeyer> so
[03:57] <niemeyer> But, IIRC, there's a control sequence for beeping
[03:57] <Keybuk> yeah;
[03:57] <Keybuk> hmm, it doesn't stop the channel tab turning blue either
[05:16] <ondrej> hi guys, could somebody look at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1774 and try to prevent this kind of emails to me? Bug was assigned to Ubuntu GNOME team, but sent to /me, since I am Debian MTN of this package...
[05:17] <kiko> ondrej, let me check that out.
[05:18] <kiko> BjornT, ping?
[05:18] <kiko> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1774/activity
[05:19] <robitaille> ondrej: sorry about the spam (I did that assignment earlier)
[05:23] <ondrej> no problem, but it's second time I got info about universe bug in Ubuntu...  and while I don't have problem with closing invalid bugs, I can easily imaging horde of upset DD :-)
[05:25] <robitaille> kiko: who closed it?  These 2 packages are in universe, not main
[05:26] <robitaille> thus should be filled in Malone
[05:28] <kiko> robitaille, I'm not sure because the activity log isn't displaying that (it should). however, more importantly, we need to fix up subscriptions RSN to avoid this problem.
[05:33] <BjornT> kiko: pong
[05:37] <kiko> BjornT, do we know who changed what in the activity log? if so, could we add that information to the page? (look at the link I pasted above)
[05:39] <BjornT> kiko: yes, we know who changed it, so we could easily add another column to display it.
[05:40] <kiko-fud> BjornT, killer -- if you're too busy to do that, I can
[05:43] <BjornT> kiko-fud: well, i'm not working today, so i won't do it today. if you could do it, it'd be great.
[05:44] <kiko-fud> okay
[05:45] <kiko-fud> is the production update for tomorrow all set?
[05:46] <kiko-fud> fud
[06:01] <jordi> mpt: pong
[06:58] <mpt> jordi: You're the ideal person to answer Clytie Siddall's question on rosetta-users, afaict
[07:05] <jordi> mpt: yep, I was going to do that later todaty
[07:35] <ondrej> hi, I need to override permissions in Launchpad for Ubuntu Czech Translators, previous admin is on vacation and I need to start synchronizing people to do translations for Breezy
[07:35] <ondrej> I am Ubuntu Contact for Czech LoCo team...
[07:36] <ondrej> also there is error in IP address database...  it started detecting that I am from South Africa, but I am from Czech Republic...
[07:38] <mpt> ondrej: Rosetta is detecting that everyone is in South Africa at the moment, that's a bug https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1732
[07:38] <ondrej> ok, thanks for info :-)
[07:38] <mpt> ondrej: As for the Czech permissions, perhaps jordi can help you with that
[07:38] <mpt> jordi? :-)
[07:40] <kiko> mpt, that bug is related to GeoIP -- see stub for details
[07:41] <mpt> kiko: I know, that's what the bug report says
[07:41] <mpt> Or at least, that's what the bug it's a duplicate of says :-)
[07:41] <kiko> aha
[07:41] <ondrej> btw, how are translation handled in rosetta related to upstream? Are updated translations propagated upstream?
[07:43] <mpt> ondrej: Upstream can download Rosetta translations any time they like. We don't spam them with "hey, we've got translations for you" messages they didn't ask for.
[07:44] <ondrej> ok, that answers my question...  So responsible teams should approach upstream and offer them translations in polite way :-)
[07:47] <mpt> yes
[07:47] <mpt> jordi can help you with that, too :-)
[07:47] <mpt> that's his job
[07:52] <jordi> ondrej: hey!
[07:52] <jordi> ondrej: I'll fix your team thing in a minute.
[07:53] <jordi> ondrej: re> teams, yes; right now it's upstream who may or may not pick up translations from rosetta. In some cases, Rosetta is their official vehicle for l10n so you can trust that's what will happen.
[07:53] <jordi> In other cases, there's specific policy, like for example modules "owned" by the traditional "Translation Project".
[07:53] <ondrej> well, I guess that's not case for coreutils :-)
[07:54] <jordi> ondrej: that's something that will be improved in the future, with the creation of specific "Czech TP team" in rosetta, etc.
[07:55] <jordi> right now there's ubuntu translators and gnome translators. GNOME translators can map to the GTP people, if some language decides they want to translate gnome using rosetta.
[07:57] <jordi> ondrej: re Czech team, you're requesting that you are promoted to Admin for a while?
[07:57] <ondrej> so, if I translate GNOME stuff in rosette will it updated in upstream or do I have to do it manually?
[07:58] <jordi> ondrej: manually
[07:58] <ondrej> jordi: well, I would say to promote me permanently...  I will talk to MadRabitt afterwards...
[07:59] <kiko> ondrej, the plan is to offer updates, and eventually offer a baz branch where you can merge from
[07:59] <jordi> ondrej: the Czech GNOME team could get pissed if some random .cz guy started tampering on their translations.
[07:59] <jordi> ondrej: gnome products are owned by the GNOME translation teams. In the future, arch branches could be arranged for those teams who want to officially merge from rosetta
[07:59] <jordi> hi kiko
[08:00] <jordi> damn, I can't edit ondrej
[08:00] <jordi> I can't promote him, I think.
[08:00] <jordi> kiko, do you think I should be able?
[08:00] <kiko> what sort of promotion are you looking to do, jordi?
[08:01] <jordi> ondrej is an approved member of "ubuntu-l10n-cs"
[08:01] <jordi> I want to make him admin of the team
[08:01] <jordi> I can't add members to that team either.
[08:01] <ondrej> jordi: I am in contact with current admin and I was also asked by him, wheter I want to coordinate translations...
[08:01] <jordi> nod
[08:02] <ondrej> jordi: so there should not be problem by pissing anyone :-)
[08:02] <jordi> ondrej: in your case I trust you more than enough to do this without much checking with madrabbit
[08:02] <jordi> :)
[08:02] <jordi> kiko: should I file a bug?
[08:04] <kiko> jordi, hmmm. well, what you're asking for is permission to change membership status in a team which isn't yours
[08:04] <kiko> the easy way out is to become a launchpad admin (like a superuser) but I think that's crack
[08:05] <kiko> should any rosetta expert be allowed to manipulate this sort of membership?
[08:06] <jordi> kiko: I think it's part of my tasks to promote people like this.
[08:06] <jordi> Who should do it instead? Carlos?
[08:06] <jordi> I think it's in my duties. I'm happy if it isnt' though ;)
[08:07] <kiko> heh
[08:07] <ondrej> :-)
[08:07] <kiko> I'm not saying I disagree
[08:07] <kiko> but I would rather we didn't add an "if user.login == jordi:" fragment in the team membership permissions checking code :-P
[08:08] <jordi> kiko: I'm a rosetta expert
[08:08] <kiko> right
[08:08] <jordi> should be part of the perms thing for experts, not just for jordi
[08:08] <kiko> which brought me to my question
[08:08] <kiko> should any rosetta expert be allowed to manipulate this sort of membership?
[08:08] <kiko> which you didn't answer :-P
[08:09] <jordi> I think they should, yes. but I don't know how many rosetta experts will be appointed, and how easily.
[08:10] <jordi> I'll file a bug just to have this request BLOCKED by something in malone.
[08:11] <ondrej> or maybe you can create another type of role?
[08:12] <ondrej> jordi: did you change anything on my account? I can't access it at all now...
[08:12] <jordi> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1776
[08:12] <jordi> ondrej: no, I didn't.
[08:13] <jordi> when was the last time you accessed your account details?
[08:13] <jordi> have you "merged accounts" lately?
[08:13] <ondrej> dunno, two weeks? yes, I merged my original debian account with new ubuntite account
[08:14] <ondrej> https://launchpad.net/people/ondrej-sury
[08:14] <ondrej> gives me "Sorry, a system error occurred"
[08:14] <jordi> ondrej: mine too :)
[08:15] <jordi> ondrej: I bet this is the "two wiki names" bugs in Launchpad. It's pending a production update to be fixed.
[08:15] <jordi> kiko: do you know when salgado's fix will hit production?
[08:15] <kiko> hmmm
[08:15] <ondrej> :-) seems like I found two bugs in launchpad today...
[08:15] <kiko> salgado, when was the merge-bug fixed?
[08:17] <jordi> ondrej: nope, the second one doesn't count ;)
[08:17] <jordi> I've been affected for over a week now :)
[08:18] <ondrej> :)
[08:20] <ondrej> robitaille: btw, sorry for rejecting that bug, I didn't realized that gnome-desktop-environment is in universe...
[08:25] <ondrej> maybe I have second bug? when you are viewing translation and change viewing preferences (from all to untranslated) it keeps current offset even if the offset is out of bounds...
[08:28] <jordi> ondrej: hmm, that one is a bug. Want to file a bug?
[08:28] <ondrej> no, but willdo...
[08:29] <jordi> you don't want to file it?
[08:29] <jordi> if you don't, I can :)
[08:29] <ondrej> ok, you do it :-)
[08:32] <ondrej> and another one: if I choose any language in Alt: selector and "untranslated" it gives me "Sorry, a system error occurred"
[08:32] <ondrej> all other statuses (all/need review/translated) works fine...
[08:33] <ondrej> any language means (Slovak, French, Dutch), tried English, but that worked
[08:33] <jordi> where do you seet his?
[08:34] <ondrej> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gdm/+pots/gdm/cs/+translate
[08:35] <ondrej> Czech+untranslated also works fine
[08:36] <ondrej> maybe this bug is triggered only when Alternate Language has something to offer?
[08:36] <ondrej> because "Georgian" is ok, but "German" triggers bug
[08:38] <jordi> hmm
[08:38] <jordi> ok
[08:38] <jordi> I see no alternate language.
[08:40] <ondrej> that's strange, I have full <select> list of alternate languages
[08:43] <ondrej> btw, it seems that breezy translations list is very confusing, f.e. glib2.0 has 9 template names review-breezy-glib2.0-{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8} and glib20
[08:45] <kiko> yet another bug filed against a missing product
[08:51] <jordi> mpt: hmm, Clytie asks about Ubuntu stuff I'm not sure I'm in position to answer
[08:52] <jordi> I don't know some details of the Ubuntu packaging proceses
[08:52] <ondrej> just quick offtopic question...  what is the channel for Community Council Meetings?
[08:52] <jordi> kiko?
[08:57] <kiko> yes?
[08:57] <mpt> ondrej: Why is it that you need admin permissions for the team?
[08:57] <mpt> What is it that you need to do that you can't do now?
[08:58] <ondrej> mpt: well because existing administrator asked me to take over coordination? and second reason is that I need to confirm OldaChroust as member.
[08:58] <jordi> mpt: approving members
[08:58] <mpt> ok, I know how to solve this
[09:00] <mpt> ondrej: Why can't the existing administrator make you an administrator?
[09:00] <ondrej> well, he is on vacation now...
[09:01] <ondrej> but if this is problem, it can wait...
[09:01] <mpt> jordi: Do you have permission to change the translation team for a language in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <jordi> mpt: I haven't tried. Let's see.
[09:05] <jordi> mpt: what do you suggest?
[09:06] <mpt> https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1776/
[09:08] <ondrej> mpt: I don't think it's neccessary to this kind of sorcery now...  I will wait until current administrator returns from vacation...
[09:09] <jordi> ondrej: or wait for Carlos tomorrow.
[09:09] <jordi> he can do it.
[09:09] <ondrej> ok, it's not THAT important to create such magick :-)
[09:10] <jordi> mpt: wow, that really sounds like a great hack
[09:13] <ondrej> BTW thanks all for great work on launchpad, it's really useful tool :-D
[09:13] <mpt> glad you like it
[09:15] <jordi> kiko: besides mailing carlos about me being away for some days, who else should I mail? launchpad@? allhands?
[09:17] <kiko> allhands is fine if carlos has given you an okay; be sure to say this doesn't affect your total worked hours
[09:18] <jordi> nod
[09:28] <ondrej> ok ladies and guys, time to sleep...  have a nice rest of day whatever timezone you are in :-)
[09:28] <jordi> nite ondrej
[09:33] <cprov> see you later
[09:33] <Nafallo> kiko: ping
[09:33] <kiko> Nafallo!
[09:34] <Nafallo> kiko: :-). you know if we will see who does what string in rosetta?
[09:34] <Nafallo> kiko: would help for managing the translationteams.
[09:34] <kiko> Nafallo, for suggested strings, the person is listed. are you talking about approved strings?
[09:35] <Nafallo> kiko: ah, it is? then it's just the bug with multiple lines then ;-)
[09:35] <Nafallo> kiko: thanx :-)
[09:36] <kiko> yes, that's a known bug IIRC
[09:36] <Nafallo> kiko: my gf reported it ;-)
[09:44] <sivang> jordi: hey , 'sup ?
[09:46] <mpt> kiko: It's deliberate
[09:46] <kiko> mpt?
[09:46] <mpt> condition="not:messageSet/isMultiline"
[09:47] <kiko> why?
[09:48] <mpt> because multi-line items take up lots of space on the page
[09:48] <mpt> and if you have 3~4 suggestions per item, it gets very long indeed
[09:49] <mpt> So what I'm trying to do at the moment (baz permitting) is put them in expanders like the "Add a comment" section
[09:50] <kiko> aha
[10:07] <jblack> lifeless: You're not still on vacation, are you? 
[10:25] <kiko> where's carlos?
[10:29] <lifeless> jblack: I sure am, till the end of the week
[10:30] <jblack> Ahh. Ok. Have fun then.
[10:33] <lifeless> ;0
[11:43] <mpt> kiko: Your review of https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/SimplifyingMalone would be welcome
[11:52] <mpt> Unable to connect to stuart.bishop@canonical.com.
[11:53] <kiko> odd