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| tseng | wow beagle actually works 100% out of the box | 12:50 |
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| ajmitch_ | is user_xattr set, or does it not need to be now? | 12:54 |
| tseng | its not a hard requirement now | 12:55 |
| ajmitch_ | great | 12:55 |
| tseng | its more like "you really want this" | 12:55 |
| tseng | it falls back on sqlite and is slow | 12:55 |
| ajmitch_ | might be good to put something in README.Debian or even NEWS.Debian about that | 12:56 |
| tseng | well it soon wont be my package anymore | 12:56 |
| tseng | we get to complain to someone else | 12:56 |
| ajmitch_ | you'rr going to use the debian package? | 12:56 |
| tseng | sure, after a few swings of the cluebat | 12:57 |
| tseng | oh how about that, he just responded | 12:57 |
| ajmitch_ | hopefully he can put it under group maintenance | 12:57 |
| ajmitch_ | or at least in svn | 12:58 |
| tseng | yeah he mentioned putting it in arch for him and me | 12:58 |
| tseng | i will propose pkg-mono | 12:58 |
| tseng | oh you did mail him the gaim fix right? | 01:01 |
| ajmitch_ | no I haven't sorry | 01:03 |
| tseng | ok | 01:03 |
| ajmitch_ | will file that as a bug | 01:03 |
| tseng | hm right | 01:03 |
| tseng | debugs baffles me | 01:03 |
| ajmitch_ | I've had a few years to get used to it | 01:03 |
| tseng | when is a web interface not a web interface? | 01:03 |
| ajmitch_ | when it doesn't let you interface with it | 01:04 |
| tseng | a: dbs | 01:04 |
| tseng | hm i thought id fixed f-spot in ubuntu | 01:05 |
| tseng | i guess not | 01:05 |
| tseng | i should just sync yours | 01:06 |
| tseng | that is uploaded, right? | 01:06 |
| tseng | mailed | 01:08 |
| ajmitch_ | yes, thanks | 01:08 |
| ajmitch_ | was going to ask elmo for sync | 01:08 |
| ajmitch_ | got distracted (again) | 01:08 |
| tseng | is it wrong that i want a *second* $800 lcd? | 01:09 |
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| ajmitch_ | no, it's wrong that you have *one* & I don't | 01:10 |
| Burgundavia | tseng, where did you get those beauties? | 01:10 |
| ajmitch_ | although I do have a 21" & a 17" crt on my desk at home | 01:10 |
| tseng | Burgundavia: apple.com | 01:10 |
| ajmitch_ | dual-head goodness | 01:10 |
| Burgundavia | tseng, lucky bastard | 01:10 |
| tseng | i dont know about that | 01:12 |
| tseng | i do have to work for it :) | 01:13 |
| Burgundavia | right | 01:13 |
| ajmitch_ | only new hardware I've bought recently is a phone | 01:14 |
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| tseng | im feeling pretty good about breezy now that ive just done a clean install | 01:47 |
| tseng | pretty much everything is working | 01:47 |
| tseng | even my stuff | 01:47 |
| tseng | :P | 01:47 |
| ajmitch_ | that's a good sign | 01:48 |
| ajmitch_ | even universe is in a fairly good shape, which is a surprise :) | 01:48 |
| tseng | i wish i knew what to do with mythtv | 01:48 |
| tseng | i miss it | 01:48 |
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| Burgundavia | geez, the buildlogs are all green | 02:02 |
| Burgundavia | you think we actually produce working code around here or something | 02:03 |
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| hub | " -automated control managment... remove this please ;)" | 02:14 |
| hub | what does that mean ? | 02:14 |
| hub | I'm not allowed to regenarte control from control.in ? | 02:14 |
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| ajmitch_ | hub: yes, that's what it says, a number of people don't like control.in, and others, like debian gnome team, use it a lot | 03:02 |
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| bmonty | is there other things besides the cdbs build-depends that the control.in buys you? | 03:29 |
| hub | well, that's what the cdbs tells to use | 03:29 |
| hub | btw, I was just asking | 03:29 |
| ajmitch_ | bmonty: for debian, the Uploaders field | 03:30 |
| bmonty | hub: I'm curious myself :) but it doesn't sound like control.in really gets you much, is that why people don't like it? | 03:30 |
| bmonty | seems like it would make the build process a little more complicated without much gain | 03:31 |
| hub | well, no really | 03:31 |
| ajmitch_ | it's not nearly as evil as modifying debian/rules at build time ;) | 03:31 |
| bmonty | who modifies the rules at build time? | 03:32 |
| ajmitch_ | noone sane | 03:32 |
| ajmitch_ | and I doubt it would work | 03:32 |
| bmonty | BTW, for breezy packages is cdbs or debhelper prefered? | 03:32 |
| ajmitch_ | bmonty: what do you mean, 'or'? | 03:33 |
| ajmitch_ | cdbs uses debhelper for a lot of tasks | 03:33 |
| bmonty | ok....to use or not to use cdbs :) | 03:33 |
| ajmitch_ | depends on the package, but we recommend using cdbs once you understand what is going on :) | 03:33 |
| bmonty | I like the fact that I don't have to create long lists of debhelper scripts in the rules file | 03:34 |
| ajmitch_ | yes, btu it does mean that you can package stuff without knowing what is going on underneath | 03:36 |
| ajmitch_ | which can be dangerous | 03:36 |
| bmonty | you could say the same thing of debhelper....I felt that way the first time I messed with it | 03:37 |
| ajmitch_ | that's why some AMs in debian require their NM candidates to package shomething without debhelper | 03:39 |
| ajmitch_ | my typing has really gone downhill lately :) | 03:39 |
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| ajmitch_ | nasty, someone still having issues with bugzilla #6805 (muine/ppc) | 04:35 |
| ajmitch_ | tseng: I'll test it out on the ppc box at home & see if it's still valid | 04:37 |
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| sol | hello | 05:07 |
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| sol | running hoary amd64, installed seagate sata, fdisk freezes | 05:07 |
| sol | something about... deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO | 05:07 |
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| sol | is there an existing kernel that will allow me to use the sata with hoary? | 05:08 |
| sol | kernel pkg that is | 05:08 |
| crimsun | sol: default Hoary kernel should, unless your SATA chipset is too new. In that case you can try recompiling Breezy's kernel. (Btw, this is better asked in #ubuntu.) | 05:09 |
| sol | i did ask in ubuntu, sorry | 05:10 |
| sol | thanx | 05:10 |
| crimsun | np, I've only now reattached. | 05:10 |
| sol | crimsun: is breezy's kernel a deb package? | 05:11 |
| sol | oh | 05:11 |
| sol | breezy the ubuntu release? | 05:11 |
| Lathiat | indeed | 05:12 |
| sol | should i only grab the kernel? or go forward with distro upgrade? | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | well | 05:12 |
| Lathiat | ... an upgrade might work ;p | 05:13 |
| sol | lol | 05:13 |
| sol | right | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | fdisk shoudlnt break with that error tho | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | thats just a warning | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | not an error | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | tried cfdisk? | 05:13 |
| sol | it never breaks | 05:13 |
| sol | that is dmesg | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | you said it freezes | 05:13 |
| sol | cfdisk and parted same thing | 05:13 |
| sol | freezes yes | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | its not from that | 05:13 |
| sol | may i paste two lines here? | 05:16 |
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| Lathiat | sure | 05:19 |
| sol | sorry | 05:23 |
| sol | here is the dmesg line upon parted attempt | 05:23 |
| sol | Aug 14 17:03:58 localhost kernel: program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it | 05:23 |
| sol | to SG_IO | 05:23 |
| sol | er, messages | 05:23 |
| Lathiat | like i siad, its just a deprecation warning | 05:23 |
| sol | there are no other meaningful messages i can find other than ata1 being busy at shutdown | 05:24 |
| sol | etc... | 05:24 |
| Lathiat | well that sucks :) | 05:24 |
| sol | lol | 05:24 |
| Lathiat | sure the disk isnt bad or something? | 05:24 |
| sol | i have no way of checking really | 05:24 |
| sol | brand new | 05:24 |
| chillywilly | bah, old openvpn package in hoary | 06:06 |
| crimsun | hoary-backports should have 2.0-3 built from breezy | 06:07 |
| crimsun | (yes, I know 2.0-4 is in sid) | 06:07 |
| chillywilly | hmmm, I have backports added thoguh | 06:08 |
| chillywilly | oh, backports does not cover my architecture | 06:10 |
| chillywilly | will have to rebuild the package anyway | 06:10 |
| chillywilly | this is a dual amd64 box :) | 06:11 |
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| chillywilly | 2.0-3 should be good enough ;) | 06:14 |
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| chillywilly | hey, what version can I give a package that I built from sid sources for my own personal use so that if breezy gets the newer version it will then be upgraded? | 07:04 |
| crimsun | 2.0-4 from sid? | 07:06 |
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| chillywilly | yea :) | 07:07 |
| crimsun | try 2.0-4~3ubuntu1 | 07:12 |
| chillywilly | why 4~3...? | 07:13 |
| crimsun | so -4 is higher than what's currently in breezy (-3) [presuming 2.0-4 goes in OR 2.0-4ubuntuX goes in] , but your local (-3ubuntu1) is higher than what's in hoary | 07:14 |
| crimsun | at the same time it attempts to retain the original sid versioning | 07:15 |
| crimsun | you don't have to mark it ubuntu1; you can use chillywilly1 or whatever | 07:15 |
| chillywilly | ok | 07:16 |
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| sivang | hello everyone | 08:23 |
| cat | hello sivang | 08:28 |
| sivang | hey cat , how is it going? | 08:29 |
| cat | here fixing my bugs on bx | 08:30 |
| cat | and you'r self | 08:34 |
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| HostingGeek | hmmm | 09:27 |
| HostingGeek | who said they will fix x-g | 09:27 |
| HostingGeek | oh yea | 09:27 |
| HostingGeek | me | 09:27 |
| HostingGeek | /slap HostingGeek | 09:27 |
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| ajmitch_ | tseng: malone #1770 looks odd, as muine has deps on mono-classlib-1.0, perhaps not tight enough? | 09:38 |
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| \sh | ogra: pingeling | 10:49 |
| ogra | pongelung | 10:50 |
| cat | darn it, | 10:50 |
| \sh | ogra: do u have any objections for having special not official main supported kernel packages in universe? | 10:50 |
| \sh | ogra: what I'm thinking about is having kernel images for different computer models, with patches applied, which will never make it into main | 10:51 |
| \sh | or vanilla kernel | 10:51 |
| ogra | \sh, please contact the kernel team about that... i.e. fabbione :) | 10:52 |
| ogra | i fthey have no objections its fine with me... but remember the many people that installd the totally broken bitkeeper snapshot fromuniverse in hoary | 10:53 |
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| ogra | just because it was 2.11 | 10:53 |
| cat | hey ogra listen i'm a bitchx developer is there any way i can take the bx packaged on ubuntu? | 10:53 |
| \sh | ogra: well..actually I'm thinking about providing special kernels for installation media and running kernels for things like these crappy toshiba drivers | 10:54 |
| \sh | cat: we don't know something like maintainers...in ubuntu. so if you want to change something on the package...please do and provide patches, become a motu and help us | 10:54 |
| ogra | cat, you are upstream maintainer or debian maintainer for it ? | 10:55 |
| cat | i'm just a bitchx developer ogra | 10:56 |
| ogra | so upstream ... | 10:56 |
| cat | yeah | 10:56 |
| ogra | and the 1.0 version we ship is to old ? | 10:57 |
| cat | naw | 10:57 |
| ogra | hmm, then i dont understand the question i fear | 10:58 |
| cat | well i wanted it to take over the bitchx packaged for ubuntu but i fear someone has it (: | 10:58 |
| \sh | ogra: he wants to maintain the package in ubuntu | 10:58 |
| \sh | cat: again...we don't have maintainership in ubuntu.. | 10:58 |
| ogra | cat, we dont have personalized packages | 10:58 |
| cat | aj | 10:59 |
| cat | *oh | 10:59 |
| ogra | cat, we do everything as a team... even if some have their favorite packages .... | 10:59 |
| cat | oh ic | 10:59 |
| cat | damn there's nothing i can do on ubuntu =) | 11:00 |
| cat | hehe | 11:00 |
| \sh | cat: we have enough to get u working for ubuntu :) | 11:02 |
| cat | such as \sh ? | 11:02 |
| ogra | and indeed you could maintain the bitchX package.... (if ubuntu specific changes are required) | 11:02 |
| ogra | we all have ur favorite packages nobody else would touch without asking... but unlike debian you dont get a flamewar if you really touch someone elses stuff :) | 11:04 |
| cat | true, | 11:04 |
| cat | well my main goal is to worked, on ubuntu doing something | 11:04 |
| cat | but i still haven't find anything | 11:04 |
| siretart | cat: if you think, something needs to be done on the ubuntu bitchx package, just go on and improve it. we appreciate every contribution :) | 11:05 |
| siretart | hi folks | 11:05 |
| ogra | cat: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | 11:06 |
| ogra | (assuming thats up to date) | 11:06 |
| cat | siretart: well there's nothing to be changed (: | 11:06 |
| ogra | morning siretart | 11:06 |
| siretart | hi ogra | 11:07 |
| ogra | cat, look at "How to help / Ongoing tasks" | 11:07 |
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| herve | hello | 11:21 |
| \sh | herve: nice to see u :) | 11:29 |
| herve | yeah, sometimes my life gets back to normal :-) | 11:29 |
| herve | though it's hard to type with a cat in your arms | 11:29 |
| herve | ho, there will be a xorg 6.9 | 11:34 |
| herve | I though 7.0 was the next one | 11:34 |
| Mithrandir | 6.9 and 7.0 are equivalent, except for the build system | 11:37 |
| Mithrandir | 6.9 is the last monolithic | 11:37 |
| herve | ho, we really are heading the 7.0 | 11:37 |
| \sh | ok...lets try to build something in this baby | 11:40 |
| jsgotangco | ooohh portege toy... | 11:43 |
| ajmitch_ | jsgotangco: you got your laptop now? | 11:44 |
| ajmitch_ | or is it still held up in customs? :) | 11:44 |
| jsgotangco | oh i love those customs people | 11:45 |
| \sh | jsgotangco: what u r getting? | 11:45 |
| ajmitch_ | heh | 11:45 |
| jsgotangco | im getting the Tecra M2 tommorow | 11:45 |
| ajmitch_ | nice | 11:46 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch_, are you getting one as well? | 11:46 |
| Treenaks | I'm getting "a HP", but I don't know which one yet | 11:46 |
| ajmitch_ | jsgotangco: dell inspiron 710m | 11:46 |
| ajmitch_ | that's what I heard, anyway | 11:46 |
| === jsgotangco checks that | ||
| jsgotangco | i think the dells are a bit delayed | 11:47 |
| ajmitch_ | 510m, sorry | 11:47 |
| ajmitch_ | wouldn't surprise me if they were | 11:48 |
| jsgotangco | nice review on the 510m though | 11:48 |
| ajmitch_ | yep | 11:50 |
| Treenaks | I have no idea what to expect yet :) | 11:52 |
| Treenaks | so I've started filling the template for my old 600MHz craptop :) | 11:53 |
| ajmitch_ | heh | 11:53 |
| === ajmitch_ could do the same for his 400MHz beast | ||
| Treenaks | \o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusL7300G | 11:53 |
| herve | I have a 386SX 16 MHz, now beat this :-) | 11:54 |
| Treenaks | herve: that won't run ubuntu afaik | 11:54 |
| ajmitch_ | herve: laptop? :) | 11:54 |
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| herve | portable at least :-) | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | CGA graphics? :) | 11:55 |
| herve | no vga, but gray | 11:55 |
| Treenaks | MCGA 8) | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | talk about vintage on the wiki :) | 11:55 |
| herve | I see this: "the laptop when I didn't even know how to walk" | 11:56 |
| Treenaks | herve: my parents have one of these: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5705/p70.html | 11:56 |
| Treenaks | herve: and one of these: http://www.computercloset.org/IBMPortablePC.htm | 11:56 |
| herve | ho no, it's not that old | 11:57 |
| Treenaks | herve: then you're too young ;) | 11:57 |
| jsgotangco | we used to have a portable trs 80 then | 11:57 |
| herve | no I exagerated, I don't even know its year | 11:57 |
| === jsgotangco lol on the links | ||
| ajmitch_ | Treenaks: I want one! | 11:58 |
| ajmitch_ | ooh, nice usplash | 11:59 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: usplash? if this is the thing what I'm looking at when I'm booting up the actual dev kernel...then it's shiddy ,-) | 12:00 |
| ajmitch_ | \sh: it's a start ;) | 12:01 |
| ajmitch_ | hmm | 12:01 |
| ajmitch_ | laptop not booting, I wonder what's wrong now... | 12:01 |
| ajmitch_ | ah, 180 days without fsck | 12:01 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: we should have something like the gentoo splash...this was really nice...and a windowed vga console ,-) | 12:02 |
| ajmitch_ | \sh: and we're limited to vga16fb, of course :) | 12:02 |
| Treenaks | ajmitch_: what? an IBM Portable? | 12:02 |
| ajmitch_ | Treenaks: sure | 12:02 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: change it ,-) | 12:03 |
| ajmitch_ | \sh: change what part? | 12:03 |
| ajmitch_ | yay, xkb complaints on login | 12:05 |
| === ajmitch_ upgrades to x -49 | ||
| tseng | ajmitch_: luis did the same thing | 12:10 |
| tseng | ajmitch_: there was some kind of upgrade issue | 12:10 |
| ajmitch_ | tseng: right, that's a worry | 12:10 |
| ajmitch_ | since the Depends look fine | 12:10 |
| tseng | i just did a clean install yesterday and its fine | 12:10 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 12:11 |
| tseng | is there a known issue with no sound in clean breezy installs, btw? | 12:23 |
| tseng | ajmitch_: sounds like beagle et al will be in baz to start | 12:29 |
| tseng | ajmitch_: he is really excited about giving us power to branch and merge | 12:30 |
| ajmitch_ | yeah, baz is pretty nice for that | 12:30 |
| tseng | buh at ppc mono bug | 12:31 |
| ajmitch_ | madduck just held a baz & debian packaging session the other day on irc | 12:31 |
| tseng | right | 12:31 |
| ajmitch_ | tseng: yeah I'll try & get the downstairs imac booted up & test it | 12:31 |
| tseng | i think i had this bug filed a year ago | 12:31 |
| ajmitch_ | installed hoary on it a few weeks back | 12:31 |
| tseng | and invalidated it after a few ppc tests | 12:32 |
| tseng | and upstream says fixed | 12:32 |
| ajmitch_ | yes, and it only seems to show up on a few boxes - now after a few months someone has it again | 12:32 |
| tseng | $ mcs --version | 12:32 |
| tseng | Mono C# compiler version 0.91.0.0 | 12:32 |
| tseng | i mean | 12:32 |
| ajmitch_ | ancient.. | 12:32 |
| tseng | thats ancient history | 12:32 |
| tseng | the bug is from 05/2004 | 12:33 |
| ajmitch_ | then why does someone see it on a current hoary box? | 12:33 |
| ajmitch_ | it just doesn't make sense | 12:33 |
| tseng | yheah | 12:34 |
| tseng | not that we can do much about hoary anyway | 12:34 |
| tseng | oh this is the same bug | 12:36 |
| tseng | that i closed | 12:36 |
| ajmitch_ | yep | 12:41 |
| ajmitch_ | ok, on the mac now | 12:41 |
| ajmitch_ | looks like it'll take a few minuts | 12:46 |
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| ajmitch_ | tseng: wonderful, I get the SIGILL on hoary | 12:57 |
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| ajmitch_ | brb | 01:08 |
| Q-FUNK | who maintains the bazar branch of planner/main? | 01:08 |
| Q-FUNK | is that ever merged back into the Ubuntu packages? | 01:09 |
| Q-FUNK | http://arch.ubuntu.com/planner@bazaar.ubuntu.com/planner--MAIN--0/ | 01:09 |
| Mithrandir | that's probably a mirror of the planner CVS. | 01:11 |
| Q-FUNK | hmm. ok | 01:12 |
| shawarma | Question: I've upgraded to Breezy (and hence firefox 1.0.6) and the fonts in firefox are QUITE a bit larger than before.... Can anyone tell me why? | 01:13 |
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| shawarma | Ok, let me rephrase: Does anyone else have larger fonts in firefox after upgrading to Breezy? | 01:22 |
| ogra | shawarma, this is not a support channel and i'm sure there are some bugreports open about it | 01:23 |
| shawarma | The topic of #ubuntu says not to use Breezy and I figured there would be more people actually running Breezy in here. I'm asking because I'm willing to work on fixing it, and it helps a lot to know if it's a common wellknown problem or something specific to my system.. | 01:26 |
| ogra | this is the channel for universe package development... we dont even touch firefox if you want to help fixing, go to #ubuntu-devel ... | 01:28 |
| ajmitch | ah, faster DSL finally :) | 01:28 |
| ogra | shawarma, it helps a lot if you look in bugzilla first, thats an ancient cairo/ff bug.... ;) | 01:29 |
| ogra | there must be several reports | 01:29 |
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| shawarma | ogra: Cairo? | 01:33 |
| shawarma | ogra: Oh, and I can't seem to find any bug report about it in bugzilla? Do you have a link available? | 01:35 |
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| Yagisan | ajmitch, whats DSL like over in NZ ? | 01:57 |
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| Yagisan | Odd. Is there anyway I can force my package to uninstall the previous version BEFORE installing my new one ? | 02:05 |
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| Yagisan | it is causing some issues with leaving files behind. I could rm them, but that seems like a hack | 02:07 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: DSL in NZ is bad | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | nearly as bad as .au :) | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | I'd say worse, but we *just* got 2Mbps available | 02:13 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: w.r.t your packages, use Conflicts/Replaces fields in debian/control | 02:13 |
| ajmitch | if files are moved between packages.. otherwise I'm not sure what you mean? | 02:14 |
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| Yagisan | Sorry ajmitch - had to feed bub. | 02:31 |
| Yagisan | WRT my packages, a dpkg-divert moved packages, and became policy compliant at the same time | 02:32 |
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| Yagisan | DSL does look better in NZ :( | 02:33 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: that's funny, I was on 256/128 until yesterday | 02:33 |
| ajmitch | I wouldn't call that better :) | 02:33 |
| Yagisan | I had dialup until I went to UDU | 02:33 |
| Yagisan | I pay for 1500/256 but I wouldn't say its reliable | 02:34 |
| Yagisan | and I know the copper cables could do better | 02:34 |
| Yagisan | WRT my packages - go with a rm hack ? | 02:35 |
| Yagisan | I have replaces, but no conflicts in my control. I'll rebuild a see if I still need a rm hack | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | rm hacks are not good to do | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | ah, you were at UDU as well? | 02:39 |
| Yagisan | I know - I'll find out in 10mins if I still need to do it | 02:39 |
| Yagisan | yeah, I met you andrew | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | yeah sorry, I don't recognise irc nicks I don't see often :) | 02:39 |
| Yagisan | I signed your key and 6days later had my machine die taking my old key down with it :( | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | ouch :) | 02:40 |
| Yagisan | lesson to self, never store backups on cheap cds - when you need them they don't restore | 02:40 |
| Mithrandir | or verify your backups. | 02:40 |
| Yagisan | verified yes, but that was 4 weeks prior | 02:41 |
| Yagisan | moved to a RAID5 for hdd, and DVD+RW for backups now | 02:41 |
| Yagisan | anyone ppc here ? | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | yes, I've got ppc running at the moment | 02:44 |
| Yagisan | after I've finished with my package, could you see if it builds in ppc for me | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | ok, it's only got hoary at the moment | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | but I can test | 02:45 |
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| Yagisan | that's fine - it's targeted at hoary while I develop it. | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | ok | 02:47 |
| Yagisan | hooray - succesfull migration | 02:51 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:07 |
| Yagisan | G'day | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | hi bddebian | 03:11 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 03:12 |
| bddebian | Heya \sh | 03:13 |
| \sh | re | 03:14 |
| \sh | grmpf | 03:14 |
| \sh | why are they delivering a dvd rom for recovery when there is no dvd rom.. | 03:15 |
| \sh | stupid | 03:15 |
| \sh | i can't even pxe this image | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | bzr is certainly interesting, just playing with it for packaging some of my stuff | 03:17 |
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| mbreit | hi | 04:14 |
| bddebian | Heya mbreit | 04:16 |
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| bddebian | Heya ogra | 04:23 |
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| Nafallo | yay microsoft centered supports! | 04:26 |
| bddebian | ? | 04:26 |
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| Nafallo | I just talked to my laptops supportcentre after my optical unit acting up | 04:27 |
| Nafallo | they can't ensure things will work on linux | 04:27 |
| Nafallo | so I told them I can, I got a log of the errors the kernel tell me when I insert a CD, I'm in the developteam for the operative system I'm using and their hardware just turned crappy. | 04:28 |
| Nafallo | they'll send me a new burner this week :-). | 04:28 |
| bddebian | Ahh :-) | 04:30 |
| Nafallo | I knew something was up when I couldn't use one of those hoary livecds I got with the mail ;-) | 04:31 |
| Nafallo | seems to work with one of my burned CDs though | 04:32 |
| Nafallo | but not with a blank one | 04:32 |
| Nafallo | anyway, odd, and I'll get a new drive ;-) | 04:32 |
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| Seveas | Nafallo, lol :) | 04:35 |
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| mbreit | can someone upload my passepartout-fix for me? | 04:46 |
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| tseng | ajmitch: "wonderful" indeed | 04:59 |
| tseng | ajmitch: tried breezy? | 04:59 |
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| Yagisa1 | Anyone here with experience in putting a shell script "doghouse" around a badly designed program ? | 05:52 |
| tseng | like a chroot? | 05:52 |
| Yagisa1 | more like a diversion | 05:52 |
| Yagisa1 | the app in question, craps in the CWD | 05:53 |
| Yagisa1 | I set up a doghouse to contain it to $HOME/.deng | 05:53 |
| Yagisa1 | but I seem to have made a mistake in setting up dpkg-divert | 05:53 |
| Yagisa1 | in my preinst | 05:54 |
| Yagisa1 | I set up two diverts, one to move the app to .real, and one to move my .sh to the original command location | 05:55 |
| Yagisa1 | but it errors on install, so this is a bad thing | 05:56 |
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| Yagisa1 | OK. I'll go with one divert, and symlink. See if it works better like that. | 06:00 |
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| Nafallo | what's wrong with kazehakase? | 06:26 |
| ogra_ltsp | is there something wrong ? | 06:27 |
| ogra_ltsp | except the strange name | 06:27 |
| Nafallo | Build-Dep: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.8) | 06:27 |
| Nafallo | Build-Conflict: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.9) | 06:27 |
| Nafallo | the binary deps mozilla-browser and conflicts with the same versions | 06:28 |
| ogra_ltsp | ouch | 06:28 |
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| Nafallo | ogra_ltsp: I take care of it though. I'll ask the user to file a bug on malone :-). | 06:32 |
| Nafallo | karma, here we come! :-) | 06:32 |
| ogra_ltsp | :) | 06:33 |
| highvoltage | ogra_ltsp: you're on ltsp? | 06:35 |
| ogra_ltsp | zup | 06:36 |
| ogra_ltsp | with breoken kezmap as zou can see :) | 06:36 |
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| ogra_ltsp | tried the edubuntu daily..... but its still to broken ... you cnt easily work wround the breakage yet | 06:37 |
| Nafallo | ogra_ltsp: what steps shall I take when I want to book #ubuntu-meeting? ;-) | 06:37 |
| ogra_ltsp | just look at the Calendar... if nothing is scheduled, grab it | 06:37 |
| Nafallo | oki :-) | 06:40 |
| siretart | re | 06:41 |
| siretart | Does anyone know if Andrew McMillan does irc? | 06:41 |
| siretart | and more importantly, do DD cound as reviewer fuer REVU purposes? | 06:44 |
| siretart | I'd say yes, but wanted to hear a second opinion | 06:44 |
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| ubuntuguy | anyone: ndiswrapper will not modprobe insert. Modprobe reports a fatal error. Does anyone know how to fix this? | 06:47 |
| jabra | what is the error? | 06:48 |
| ubuntuguy | the error is not specific | 06:48 |
| ubuntuguy | it simply states fatal error can not insert | 06:48 |
| ubuntuguy | or something real close to that | 06:48 |
| ogra | can you carry that to a support channel like #ubuntu please ? | 06:49 |
| ogra | this is one for universe development... | 06:50 |
| ubuntuguy | ogra: sorry, I tried there, I'm desperate. | 06:50 |
| ubuntuguy | several people have reported this error on a thread on the ubuntuforums.org | 06:52 |
| ubuntuguy | thanks anyway | 06:52 |
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| ogra | someone should tell the people that forums are not the place to report bugs if they want them solved *sigh* | 06:53 |
| zul | yeah especially when the kernel-team doesnt really read the forums :) | 06:54 |
| Nafallo | does any team? ;-) | 06:54 |
| Treenaks | maybe the docteam? | 06:54 |
| Treenaks | speaking of the kernel team, *points at bugzilla#2129* | 06:55 |
| === ogra guesses the Burgundavia team reads forums... | ||
| bddebian | heh | 06:55 |
| siretart | ok, bye folks. cu tomorrow | 06:57 |
| bddebian | Later siretart | 06:57 |
| Treenaks | ogra: there is a "Burgundavia team"? | 06:58 |
| bddebian | Hehe | 06:58 |
| Treenaks | I mean.. fanboys OK, but a whole team? | 06:58 |
| ogra | Nafallo, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1775 ;) | 07:00 |
| Nafallo | ogra: thanx :-). I assigned it to me and marked it accepted. dep-wait on eveything else I have to do (meeting in 2h and aspell transition) :-) | 07:03 |
| ogra | dylis in #ubuntu-bugs is very helpful ;) | 07:05 |
| ogra | err dilys | 07:05 |
| zul | what is the url for the package search? | 07:06 |
| bddebian | packages.ubuntu.com | 07:07 |
| zul | thanks bddebian | 07:08 |
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| Treenaks | "Configuring bicyclerepair" ??! WTF? | 07:41 |
| ogra | whats wron with that Treenaks ? | 07:42 |
| tseng | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bicyclerepair | 07:42 |
| Treenaks | ogra: It's a laptop, not a bicycle :) | 07:42 |
| Treenaks | tseng: oh cool | 07:42 |
| \sh | i can't use the laptop as phone | 07:43 |
| Treenaks | \sh: why not? | 07:43 |
| \sh | cause no mic jack | 07:43 |
| Treenaks | \sh: most laptops have builtin mics | 07:43 |
| \sh | only internal one | 07:43 |
| \sh | but's bull**** cause of my headset | 07:43 |
| \sh | a external mic is even better | 07:44 |
| ogra | hey, dont complain, at least it can fix your bike :) | 07:44 |
| \sh | what? | 07:44 |
| \sh | the other things like bluetooth can only be enabled via acpi call...and without a kernel patch nothing happens | 07:46 |
| \sh | the applies to suspend and hibernate | 07:46 |
| \sh | there i have to patch acpid | 07:46 |
| \sh | all patches even the NIC driver are refused from upstream | 07:47 |
| \sh | so I have to build my own kernel and acpid for this laptop | 07:47 |
| \sh | and provide some experimental install media | 07:47 |
| \sh | let me all document this with coreys new template | 07:48 |
| \sh | so..this laptop is not ubuntu compatible at all | 07:48 |
| \sh | ,-) | 07:49 |
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| Tonio | hi everyone | 08:30 |
| Tonio | I have a little problem complying with md5sum with a package | 08:30 |
| Tonio | can someone give me just 2 minutes ? | 08:30 |
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| bddebian | Heya Mez | 09:45 |
| \sh | Mez: did fabbione reached u? | 09:45 |
| Mez | er, no | 09:46 |
| Mez | sup? | 09:46 |
| \sh | Mez: somebody backported the kernel | 09:46 |
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| Mez | what the fuck? | 09:47 |
| bddebian | Such language.. :-) | 09:47 |
| Mez | sorry.. | 09:47 |
| bddebian | I'm kidding : | 09:47 |
| bddebian | ) | 09:47 |
| Mez | \sh: unofficial? | 09:47 |
| \sh | Mez: he just mentioned it...and wanted to assign some bugs to the backport SPOC :) | 09:48 |
| Mez | \sh: the kernel shouldnt have been backported | 09:48 |
| \sh | Mez: thats what he said | 09:48 |
| Mez | Looking at this, it's only been backported for warty | 09:49 |
| Mez | and thats only 2.6.10 | 09:50 |
| \sh | email him.. | 09:50 |
| Mez | \sh - It's not backports.. | 09:56 |
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| Treenaks | \o/ -> foodfight.org/log (now all I need is syndication on planet) | 10:09 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 10:47 |
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| bddebian | Morning ajmitch | 10:56 |
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| jdong | hey, why's breezy's clamav not in sync with debian? | 11:02 |
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| ajmitch | jdong: because it's after upstream version freeze & noone has requested an exception? | 11:05 |
| ogra | ajmitch, after feature freeze even .... which is more strict | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | true | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | ogra: so do you think I can get f-spot 0.1.0 into breezy? | 11:07 |
| ogra | i'd like to hear tsengs opinion, but if it works on amd64 i'll vote for it *g* | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | I'll do a pkg-mono upload for debian & see how it goes | 11:08 |
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| whiprush | that photo import from the camera for fspot | 11:18 |
| whiprush | need it so ... badly ... | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | whiprush: don't worry, we can feed your addiction.. | 11:20 |
| whiprush | <3 | 11:20 |
| whiprush | then next cycle we can argue about media players all day | 11:21 |
| StoneTable | rol | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | ah, f-spot_0.1.0-1_i386.deb built | 11:23 |
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| ajmitch | bbiab | 11:24 |
| tseng | ogra: im cool with f-spot, after i look at it | 11:29 |
| ogra | oki, go for it then :) | 11:30 |
| ogra | to make whiprush happy ;) | 11:30 |
| tseng | i have been using cvs | 11:31 |
| tseng | nice | 11:36 |
| tseng | crasher | 11:36 |
| tseng | help - about | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | ah this work box is unbearably slow in the morning | 11:43 |
| mbreit | hi all... | 11:44 |
| mbreit | could somebody upload my passepartout-fix? | 11:44 |
| crimsun | url? | 11:50 |
| mbreit | http://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/passepartout_0.6-1ubuntu1.debdiff | 11:50 |
| mbreit | (and yes, i hate those config.sub/.guess things in a debdiff...) | 11:50 |
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