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tsengwow beagle actually works 100% out of the box12:50
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ajmitch_is user_xattr set, or does it not need to be now?12:54
tsengits not a hard requirement now12:55
ajmitch_great12:55
tsengits more like "you really want this"12:55
tsengit falls back on sqlite and is slow12:55
ajmitch_might be good to put something in README.Debian or even NEWS.Debian about that12:56
tsengwell it soon wont be my package anymore12:56
tsengwe get to complain to someone else12:56
ajmitch_you'rr going to use the debian package?12:56
tsengsure, after a few swings of the cluebat12:57
tsengoh how about that, he just responded12:57
ajmitch_hopefully he can put it under group maintenance12:57
ajmitch_or at least in svn12:58
tsengyeah he mentioned putting it in arch for him and me12:58
tsengi will propose pkg-mono12:58
tsengoh you did mail him the gaim fix right?01:01
ajmitch_no I haven't sorry01:03
tsengok01:03
ajmitch_will file that as a bug01:03
tsenghm right01:03
tsengdebugs baffles me01:03
ajmitch_I've had a few years to get used to it01:03
tsengwhen is a web interface not a web interface?01:03
ajmitch_when it doesn't let you interface with it01:04
tsenga: dbs01:04
tsenghm i thought id fixed f-spot in ubuntu01:05
tsengi guess not01:05
tsengi should just sync yours01:06
tsengthat is uploaded, right?01:06
tsengmailed01:08
ajmitch_yes, thanks01:08
ajmitch_was going to ask elmo for sync01:08
ajmitch_got distracted (again)01:08
tsengis it wrong that i want a *second* $800 lcd?01:09
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ajmitch_no, it's wrong that you have *one* & I don't01:10
Burgundaviatseng, where did you get those beauties?01:10
ajmitch_although I do have a 21" & a 17" crt on my desk at home01:10
tsengBurgundavia: apple.com01:10
ajmitch_dual-head goodness01:10
Burgundaviatseng, lucky bastard01:10
tsengi dont know about that01:12
tsengi do have to work for it :)01:13
Burgundaviaright01:13
ajmitch_only new hardware I've bought recently is a phone01:14
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tsengim feeling pretty good about breezy now that ive just done a clean install01:47
tsengpretty much everything is working01:47
tsengeven my stuff01:47
tseng:P01:47
ajmitch_that's a good sign01:48
ajmitch_even universe is in a fairly good shape, which is a surprise :)01:48
tsengi wish i knew what to do with mythtv01:48
tsengi miss it01:48
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Burgundaviageez, the buildlogs are all green02:02
Burgundaviayou think we actually produce working code around here or something02:03
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hub" -automated control managment... remove this please ;)"02:14
hubwhat does that mean ?02:14
hubI'm not allowed to regenarte control from control.in ?02:14
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ajmitch_hub: yes, that's what it says, a number of people don't like control.in, and others, like debian gnome team, use it a lot03:02
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bmontyis there other things besides the cdbs build-depends that the control.in buys you?03:29
hubwell, that's what the cdbs tells to use03:29
hubbtw, I was just asking03:29
ajmitch_bmonty: for debian, the Uploaders field03:30
bmontyhub: I'm curious myself :)  but it doesn't sound like control.in really gets you much, is that why people don't like it?03:30
bmontyseems like it would make the build process a little more complicated without much gain03:31
hubwell, no really03:31
ajmitch_it's not nearly as evil as modifying debian/rules at build time ;)03:31
bmontywho modifies the rules at build time?03:32
ajmitch_noone sane03:32
ajmitch_and I doubt it would work03:32
bmontyBTW, for breezy packages is cdbs or debhelper prefered?03:32
ajmitch_bmonty: what do you mean, 'or'?03:33
ajmitch_cdbs uses debhelper for a lot of tasks03:33
bmontyok....to use or not to use cdbs :)03:33
ajmitch_depends on the package, but we recommend using cdbs once you understand what is going on :)03:33
bmontyI like the fact that I don't have to create long lists of debhelper scripts in the rules file03:34
ajmitch_yes, btu it does mean that you can package stuff without knowing what is going on underneath03:36
ajmitch_which can be dangerous03:36
bmontyyou could say the same thing of debhelper....I felt that way the first time I messed with it03:37
ajmitch_that's why some AMs in debian require their NM candidates to package shomething without debhelper03:39
ajmitch_my typing has really gone downhill lately :)03:39
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ajmitch_nasty, someone still having issues with bugzilla #6805 (muine/ppc)04:35
ajmitch_tseng: I'll test it out on the ppc box at home & see if it's still valid04:37
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solhello05:07
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solrunning hoary amd64, installed seagate sata, fdisk freezes05:07
solsomething about...  deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO05:07
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solis there an existing kernel that will allow me to use the sata with hoary?05:08
solkernel pkg that is05:08
crimsunsol: default Hoary kernel should, unless your SATA chipset is too new. In that case you can try recompiling Breezy's kernel. (Btw, this is better asked in #ubuntu.)05:09
soli did ask in ubuntu, sorry05:10
solthanx05:10
crimsunnp, I've only now reattached.05:10
solcrimsun: is breezy's kernel a deb package?05:11
soloh05:11
solbreezy the ubuntu release?05:11
Lathiatindeed05:12
solshould i only grab the kernel? or go forward with distro upgrade?05:12
Lathiatwell05:12
Lathiat... an upgrade might work ;p05:13
sollol05:13
solright05:13
Lathiatfdisk shoudlnt break with that error tho05:13
Lathiatthats just a warning05:13
Lathiatnot an error05:13
Lathiattried cfdisk?05:13
solit never breaks05:13
solthat is dmesg05:13
Lathiatyou said it freezes05:13
solcfdisk and parted same thing05:13
solfreezes yes05:13
Lathiatits not from that05:13
solmay i paste two lines here?05:16
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Lathiatsure05:19
solsorry05:23
solhere is the dmesg line upon parted attempt05:23
solAug 14 17:03:58 localhost kernel: program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it05:23
solto SG_IO05:23
soler, messages05:23
Lathiatlike i siad, its just a deprecation warning05:23
solthere are no other meaningful messages i can find other than ata1 being busy at shutdown05:24
soletc...05:24
Lathiatwell that sucks :)05:24
sollol05:24
Lathiatsure the disk isnt bad or something?05:24
soli have no way of checking really05:24
solbrand new05:24
chillywillybah, old openvpn package in hoary06:06
crimsunhoary-backports should have 2.0-3 built from breezy06:07
crimsun(yes, I know 2.0-4 is in sid)06:07
chillywillyhmmm, I have backports added thoguh06:08
chillywillyoh, backports does not cover my architecture06:10
chillywillywill have to rebuild the package anyway06:10
chillywillythis is a dual amd64 box :)06:11
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chillywilly2.0-3 should be good enough ;)06:14
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chillywillyhey, what version can I give a package that I built from sid sources for my own personal use so that if breezy gets the newer version it will then be upgraded?07:04
crimsun2.0-4 from sid?07:06
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chillywillyyea :)07:07
crimsuntry 2.0-4~3ubuntu107:12
chillywillywhy 4~3...?07:13
crimsunso -4 is higher than what's currently in breezy (-3) [presuming 2.0-4 goes in OR 2.0-4ubuntuX goes in] , but your local (-3ubuntu1) is higher than what's in hoary07:14
crimsunat the same time it attempts to retain the original sid versioning07:15
crimsunyou don't have to mark it ubuntu1; you can use chillywilly1 or whatever07:15
chillywillyok07:16
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sivanghello everyone08:23
cathello sivang08:28
sivanghey cat , how is it going?08:29
cathere fixing my bugs on bx08:30
catand you'r self08:34
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HostingGeekhmmm09:27
HostingGeekwho said they will fix x-g09:27
HostingGeekoh yea09:27
HostingGeekme09:27
HostingGeek/slap HostingGeek09:27
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ajmitch_tseng: malone #1770 looks odd, as muine has deps on mono-classlib-1.0, perhaps not tight enough?09:38
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\shogra: pingeling10:49
ograpongelung10:50
catdarn it,10:50
\shogra: do u have any objections for having special not official main supported kernel packages in universe?10:50
\shogra: what I'm thinking about is having kernel images for different computer models, with patches applied, which will never make it into main10:51
\shor vanilla kernel10:51
ogra\sh, please contact the kernel team about that... i.e. fabbione :)10:52
ograi fthey have no objections its fine with me... but remember the many people that installd the totally broken bitkeeper snapshot fromuniverse in hoary10:53
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ograjust because it was 2.1110:53
cathey ogra listen i'm a bitchx developer is there any way i can take the bx packaged on ubuntu?10:53
\shogra: well..actually I'm thinking about providing special kernels for installation media and running kernels for things like these crappy toshiba drivers10:54
\shcat: we don't know something like maintainers...in ubuntu. so if you want to change something on the package...please do and provide patches, become a motu and help us10:54
ogracat, you are upstream maintainer or debian maintainer for it ?10:55
cati'm just a bitchx developer ogra10:56
ograso upstream ...10:56
catyeah10:56
ograand the 1.0 version we ship is to old ?10:57
catnaw10:57
ograhmm, then i dont understand the question i fear10:58
catwell i wanted it to take over the bitchx packaged for ubuntu but i fear someone has it (:10:58
\shogra: he wants to maintain the package in ubuntu10:58
\shcat: again...we don't have maintainership in ubuntu..10:58
ogracat, we dont have personalized packages10:58
cataj10:59
cat*oh10:59
ogracat, we do everything as a team... even if some have their favorite packages ....10:59
catoh ic10:59
catdamn there's nothing i can do on ubuntu =)11:00
cathehe11:00
\shcat: we have enough to get u working for ubuntu :)11:02
catsuch as \sh ?11:02
ograand indeed you could maintain the bitchX package.... (if ubuntu specific changes are required)11:02
ograwe all have ur favorite packages nobody else would touch without asking... but unlike debian you dont get a flamewar if you really touch someone elses stuff :)11:04
cattrue,11:04
catwell my main goal is to worked, on ubuntu doing something11:04
catbut i still haven't find anything11:04
siretartcat: if you think, something needs to be done on the ubuntu bitchx package, just go on and improve it. we appreciate every contribution :)11:05
siretarthi folks11:05
ogracat: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo11:06
ogra(assuming thats up to date)11:06
catsiretart: well there's nothing to be changed (:11:06
ogramorning siretart11:06
siretarthi ogra11:07
ogracat, look at "How to help / Ongoing tasks"11:07
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hervehello11:21
\shherve: nice to see u :)11:29
herveyeah, sometimes my life gets back to normal :-)11:29
hervethough it's hard to type with a cat in your arms11:29
herveho, there will be a xorg 6.911:34
herveI though 7.0 was the next one11:34
Mithrandir6.9 and 7.0 are equivalent, except for the build system11:37
Mithrandir6.9 is the last monolithic11:37
herveho, we really are heading the 7.011:37
\shok...lets try to build something in this baby11:40
jsgotangcoooohh portege toy...11:43
ajmitch_jsgotangco: you got your laptop now?11:44
ajmitch_or is it still held up in customs? :)11:44
jsgotangcooh i love those customs people11:45
\shjsgotangco: what u r getting?11:45
ajmitch_heh11:45
jsgotangcoim getting the Tecra M2 tommorow11:45
ajmitch_nice11:46
jsgotangcoajmitch_, are you getting one as well?11:46
TreenaksI'm getting "a HP", but I don't know which one yet11:46
ajmitch_jsgotangco: dell inspiron 710m11:46
ajmitch_that's what I heard, anyway11:46
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jsgotangcoi think the dells are a bit delayed11:47
ajmitch_510m, sorry11:47
ajmitch_wouldn't surprise me if they were11:48
jsgotangconice review on the 510m though11:48
ajmitch_yep11:50
TreenaksI have no idea what to expect yet :)11:52
Treenaksso I've started filling the template for my old 600MHz craptop :)11:53
ajmitch_heh11:53
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Treenaks\o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusL7300G11:53
herveI have a 386SX 16 MHz, now beat this :-)11:54
Treenaksherve: that won't run ubuntu afaik11:54
ajmitch_herve: laptop? :)11:54
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herveportable at least :-)11:55
jsgotangcoCGA graphics? :)11:55
herveno vga, but gray11:55
TreenaksMCGA 8)11:55
jsgotangcotalk about vintage on the wiki :)11:55
herveI see this: "the laptop when I didn't even know how to walk"11:56
Treenaksherve: my parents have one of these: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5705/p70.html11:56
Treenaksherve: and one of these: http://www.computercloset.org/IBMPortablePC.htm11:56
herveho no, it's not that old11:57
Treenaksherve: then you're too young ;)11:57
jsgotangcowe used to have a portable trs 80 then11:57
herveno I exagerated, I don't even know its year11:57
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ajmitch_Treenaks: I want one!11:58
ajmitch_ooh, nice usplash11:59
\shajmitch_: usplash? if this is the thing what I'm looking at when I'm booting up the actual dev kernel...then it's shiddy ,-)12:00
ajmitch_\sh: it's a start ;)12:01
ajmitch_hmm12:01
ajmitch_laptop not booting, I wonder what's wrong now...12:01
ajmitch_ah, 180 days without fsck12:01
\shajmitch_: we should have something like the gentoo splash...this was really nice...and a windowed vga console ,-)12:02
ajmitch_\sh: and we're limited to vga16fb, of course :)12:02
Treenaksajmitch_: what? an IBM Portable?12:02
ajmitch_Treenaks: sure12:02
\shajmitch_: change it ,-)12:03
ajmitch_\sh: change what part?12:03
ajmitch_yay, xkb complaints on login12:05
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tsengajmitch_: luis did the same thing12:10
tsengajmitch_: there was some kind of upgrade issue12:10
ajmitch_tseng: right, that's a worry12:10
ajmitch_since the Depends look fine12:10
tsengi just did a clean install yesterday and its fine12:10
jsgotangcobrb12:11
tsengis there a known issue with no sound in clean breezy installs, btw?12:23
tsengajmitch_: sounds like beagle et al will be in baz to start12:29
tsengajmitch_: he is really excited about giving us power to branch and merge12:30
ajmitch_yeah, baz is pretty nice for that12:30
tsengbuh at ppc mono bug12:31
ajmitch_madduck just held a baz & debian packaging session the other day on irc12:31
tsengright12:31
ajmitch_tseng: yeah I'll try & get the downstairs imac booted up & test it12:31
tsengi think i had this bug filed a year ago12:31
ajmitch_installed hoary on it a few weeks back12:31
tsengand invalidated it after a few ppc tests12:32
tsengand upstream says fixed12:32
ajmitch_yes, and it only seems to show up on a few boxes - now after a few months someone has it again12:32
tseng$ mcs --version12:32
tsengMono C# compiler version 0.91.0.012:32
tsengi mean12:32
ajmitch_ancient..12:32
tsengthats ancient history12:32
tsengthe bug is from 05/200412:33
ajmitch_then why does someone see it on a current hoary box?12:33
ajmitch_it just doesn't make sense12:33
tsengyheah12:34
tsengnot that we can do much about hoary anyway12:34
tsengoh this is the same bug12:36
tsengthat i closed12:36
ajmitch_yep12:41
ajmitch_ok, on the mac now12:41
ajmitch_looks like it'll take a few minuts12:46
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ajmitch_tseng: wonderful, I get the SIGILL on hoary12:57
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ajmitch_brb01:08
Q-FUNKwho maintains the bazar branch of planner/main?01:08
Q-FUNKis that ever merged back into the Ubuntu packages?01:09
Q-FUNKhttp://arch.ubuntu.com/planner@bazaar.ubuntu.com/planner--MAIN--0/01:09
Mithrandirthat's probably a mirror of the planner CVS.01:11
Q-FUNKhmm. ok01:12
shawarmaQuestion: I've upgraded to Breezy (and hence firefox 1.0.6) and the fonts in firefox are QUITE a bit larger than before.... Can anyone tell me why?01:13
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shawarmaOk, let me rephrase: Does anyone else have larger fonts in firefox after upgrading to Breezy?01:22
ograshawarma, this is not a support channel and i'm sure there are some bugreports open about it01:23
shawarmaThe topic of #ubuntu says not to use Breezy and I figured there would be more people actually running Breezy in here. I'm asking because I'm willing to work on fixing it, and it helps a lot to know if it's a common wellknown problem or something specific to my system..01:26
ograthis is the channel for universe package development... we dont even touch firefox if you want to help fixing, go to #ubuntu-devel ...01:28
ajmitchah, faster DSL finally :)01:28
ograshawarma, it helps a lot if you look in bugzilla first, thats an ancient cairo/ff bug.... ;)01:29
ograthere must be several reports01:29
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shawarmaogra: Cairo?01:33
shawarmaogra: Oh, and I can't seem to find any bug report about it in bugzilla? Do you have a link available?01:35
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Yagisanajmitch, whats DSL like over in NZ ?01:57
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YagisanOdd. Is there anyway I can force my package to uninstall the previous version BEFORE installing my new one ?02:05
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Yagisanit is causing some issues with leaving files behind. I could rm them, but that seems like a hack02:07
ajmitchYagisan: DSL in NZ is bad02:12
ajmitchnearly as bad as .au :)02:12
ajmitchI'd say worse, but we *just* got 2Mbps available02:13
ajmitchYagisan: w.r.t your packages, use Conflicts/Replaces fields in debian/control02:13
ajmitchif files are moved between packages.. otherwise I'm not sure what you mean?02:14
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YagisanSorry ajmitch - had to feed bub.02:31
YagisanWRT my packages, a dpkg-divert moved packages, and became policy compliant at the same time02:32
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YagisanDSL does look better in NZ :(02:33
ajmitchYagisan: that's funny, I was on 256/128 until yesterday02:33
ajmitchI wouldn't call that better :)02:33
YagisanI had dialup until I went to UDU02:33
YagisanI pay for 1500/256 but I wouldn't say its reliable02:34
Yagisanand I know the copper cables could do better02:34
YagisanWRT my packages - go with a rm hack ?02:35
YagisanI have replaces, but no conflicts in my control. I'll rebuild a see if I still need a rm hack02:38
ajmitchrm hacks are not good to do02:38
ajmitchah, you were at UDU as well?02:39
YagisanI know - I'll find out in 10mins if I still need to do it02:39
Yagisanyeah, I met you andrew02:39
ajmitchyeah sorry, I don't recognise irc nicks I don't see often :)02:39
YagisanI signed your key and 6days later had my machine die taking my old key down with it :(02:40
ajmitchouch :)02:40
Yagisanlesson to self, never store backups on cheap cds - when you need them they don't restore02:40
Mithrandiror verify your backups.02:40
Yagisanverified yes, but that was 4 weeks prior02:41
Yagisanmoved to a RAID5 for hdd, and DVD+RW for backups now02:41
Yagisananyone ppc here ?02:43
ajmitchyes, I've got ppc running at the moment02:44
Yagisanafter I've finished with my package, could you see if it builds in ppc for me02:45
ajmitchok, it's only got hoary at the moment02:45
ajmitchbut I can test02:45
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Yagisanthat's fine - it's targeted at hoary while I develop it.02:46
ajmitchok02:47
Yagisanhooray - succesfull migration02:51
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bddebianHowdy03:07
YagisanG'day03:07
ajmitchhi bddebian03:11
bddebianHeya ajmitch03:12
bddebianHeya \sh03:13
\shre03:14
\shgrmpf03:14
\shwhy are they delivering a dvd rom for recovery when there is no dvd rom..03:15
\shstupid03:15
\shi can't even pxe this image03:15
ajmitchbzr is certainly interesting, just playing with it for packaging some of my stuff03:17
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mbreithi04:14
bddebianHeya mbreit04:16
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bddebianHeya ogra04:23
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Nafalloyay microsoft centered supports!04:26
bddebian ?04:26
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NafalloI just talked to my laptops supportcentre after my optical unit acting up04:27
Nafallothey can't ensure things will work on linux04:27
Nafalloso I told them I can, I got a log of the errors the kernel tell me when I insert a CD, I'm in the developteam for the operative system I'm using and their hardware just turned crappy.04:28
Nafallothey'll send me a new burner this week :-).04:28
bddebianAhh :-)04:30
NafalloI knew something was up when I couldn't use one of those hoary livecds I got with the mail ;-)04:31
Nafalloseems to work with one of my burned CDs though04:32
Nafallobut not with a blank one04:32
Nafalloanyway, odd, and I'll get a new drive ;-)04:32
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SeveasNafallo, lol :)04:35
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mbreitcan someone upload my passepartout-fix for me?04:46
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tsengajmitch: "wonderful" indeed04:59
tsengajmitch: tried breezy?04:59
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Yagisa1Anyone here with experience in putting a shell script "doghouse" around a badly designed program ?05:52
tsenglike a chroot?05:52
Yagisa1more like a diversion05:52
Yagisa1the app in question, craps in the CWD05:53
Yagisa1I set up a doghouse to contain it to $HOME/.deng05:53
Yagisa1but I seem to have made a mistake in setting up dpkg-divert05:53
Yagisa1in my preinst05:54
Yagisa1I set up two diverts, one to move the app to .real, and one to move my .sh to the original command location05:55
Yagisa1but it errors on install, so this is a bad thing05:56
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Yagisa1OK. I'll go with one divert, and symlink. See if it works better like that.06:00
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Nafallowhat's wrong with kazehakase?06:26
ogra_ltspis there something wrong ?06:27
ogra_ltspexcept the strange name06:27
NafalloBuild-Dep: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.8)06:27
NafalloBuild-Conflict: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.9)06:27
Nafallothe binary deps mozilla-browser and conflicts with the same versions06:28
ogra_ltspouch06:28
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Nafalloogra_ltsp: I take care of it though. I'll ask the user to file a bug on malone :-).06:32
Nafallokarma, here we come! :-)06:32
ogra_ltsp:)06:33
highvoltageogra_ltsp: you're on ltsp?06:35
ogra_ltspzup06:36
ogra_ltspwith breoken kezmap as zou can see :)06:36
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ogra_ltsptried the edubuntu daily..... but its still to broken ... you cnt easily work wround the breakage yet06:37
Nafalloogra_ltsp: what steps shall I take when I want to book #ubuntu-meeting? ;-)06:37
ogra_ltspjust look at the Calendar... if nothing is scheduled, grab it06:37
Nafallooki :-)06:40
siretartre06:41
siretartDoes anyone know if Andrew McMillan does irc?06:41
siretartand more importantly, do DD cound as reviewer fuer REVU purposes?06:44
siretartI'd say yes, but wanted to hear a second opinion06:44
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ubuntuguyanyone: ndiswrapper will not modprobe insert. Modprobe reports a fatal error. Does anyone know how to fix this?06:47
jabrawhat is the error?06:48
ubuntuguythe error is not specific06:48
ubuntuguyit simply states fatal error can not insert06:48
ubuntuguyor something real close to that06:48
ogracan you carry that to a support channel like #ubuntu please ?06:49
ograthis is one for universe development...06:50
ubuntuguyogra: sorry, I tried there, I'm desperate.06:50
ubuntuguyseveral people have reported this error on a thread on the ubuntuforums.org06:52
ubuntuguythanks anyway06:52
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ograsomeone should tell the people that forums are not the place to report bugs if they want them solved *sigh*06:53
zulyeah especially when the kernel-team doesnt really read the forums :)06:54
Nafallodoes any team? ;-)06:54
Treenaksmaybe the docteam?06:54
Treenaksspeaking of the kernel team, *points at bugzilla#2129*06:55
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bddebianheh06:55
siretartok, bye folks. cu tomorrow06:57
bddebianLater siretart06:57
Treenaksogra: there is a "Burgundavia team"?06:58
bddebianHehe06:58
TreenaksI mean.. fanboys OK, but a whole team?06:58
ograNafallo, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1775 ;)07:00
Nafalloogra: thanx :-). I assigned it to me and marked it accepted. dep-wait on eveything else I have to do (meeting in 2h and aspell transition) :-)07:03
ogradylis in #ubuntu-bugs is very helpful ;)07:05
ograerr dilys07:05
zulwhat is the url for the package search?07:06
bddebian packages.ubuntu.com07:07
zulthanks bddebian07:08
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Treenaks"Configuring bicyclerepair" ??! WTF?07:41
ograwhats wron with that Treenaks ?07:42
tsenghttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bicyclerepair07:42
Treenaksogra: It's a laptop, not a bicycle :)07:42
Treenakstseng: oh cool07:42
\shi can't use the laptop as phone07:43
Treenaks\sh: why not?07:43
\shcause no mic jack07:43
Treenaks\sh: most laptops have builtin mics07:43
\shonly internal one07:43
\shbut's bull**** cause of my headset07:43
\sha external mic is even better07:44
ograhey, dont complain, at least it can fix your bike :)07:44
\shwhat?07:44
\shthe other things like bluetooth can only be enabled via acpi call...and without a kernel patch nothing happens07:46
\shthe applies to suspend and hibernate07:46
\shthere i have to patch acpid07:46
\shall patches even the NIC driver are refused from upstream07:47
\shso I have to build my own kernel and acpid for this laptop07:47
\shand provide some experimental install media07:47
\shlet me all document this with coreys new template07:48
\shso..this laptop is not ubuntu compatible at all07:48
\sh,-)07:49
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Toniohi everyone08:30
TonioI have a little problem complying with md5sum with a package08:30
Toniocan someone give me just 2 minutes ?08:30
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bddebianHeya Mez09:45
\shMez: did fabbione reached u?09:45
Mezer, no09:46
Mezsup?09:46
\shMez: somebody backported the kernel09:46
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Mezwhat the fuck?09:47
bddebianSuch language.. :-)09:47
Mezsorry..09:47
bddebianI'm kidding :09:47
bddebian)09:47
Mez\sh: unofficial?09:47
\shMez: he just mentioned it...and wanted to assign some bugs to the backport SPOC :)09:48
Mez\sh: the kernel shouldnt have been backported09:48
\shMez: thats what he said09:48
MezLooking at this, it's only been backported for warty09:49
Mezand thats only 2.6.1009:50
\shemail him..09:50
Mez\sh - It's not backports..09:56
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Treenaks\o/ -> foodfight.org/log (now all I need is syndication on planet)10:09
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ajmitchmorning all10:47
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bddebianMorning ajmitch10:56
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jdonghey, why's breezy's clamav not in sync with debian?11:02
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ajmitchjdong: because it's after upstream version freeze & noone has requested an exception?11:05
ograajmitch, after feature freeze even .... which is more strict11:06
ajmitchtrue11:06
ajmitchogra: so do you think I can get f-spot 0.1.0 into breezy?11:07
ograi'd like to hear tsengs opinion, but if it works on amd64 i'll vote for it *g*11:07
ajmitchheh11:07
ajmitchI'll do a pkg-mono upload for debian & see how it goes11:08
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whiprushthat photo import from the camera for fspot11:18
whiprushneed it so ... badly ...11:18
ajmitchwhiprush: don't worry, we can feed your addiction..11:20
whiprush<311:20
whiprushthen next cycle we can argue about media players all day11:21
StoneTablerol11:22
ajmitchah, f-spot_0.1.0-1_i386.deb built11:23
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ajmitchbbiab11:24
tsengogra: im cool with f-spot, after i look at it11:29
ograoki, go for it then :)11:30
ograto make whiprush happy ;)11:30
tsengi have been using cvs11:31
tsengnice11:36
tsengcrasher11:36
tsenghelp - about11:36
ajmitchah this work box is unbearably slow in the morning11:43
mbreithi all...11:44
mbreitcould somebody upload my passepartout-fix?11:44
crimsunurl?11:50
mbreithttp://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/passepartout_0.6-1ubuntu1.debdiff11:50
mbreit(and yes, i hate those config.sub/.guess things in a debdiff...)11:50
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