=== Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mambo__ [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kezz [n=kezz@user-561.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] wow beagle actually works 100% out of the box === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-68-141.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] is user_xattr set, or does it not need to be now? [12:55] its not a hard requirement now [12:55] great [12:55] its more like "you really want this" [12:55] it falls back on sqlite and is slow [12:56] might be good to put something in README.Debian or even NEWS.Debian about that [12:56] well it soon wont be my package anymore [12:56] we get to complain to someone else [12:56] you'rr going to use the debian package? [12:57] sure, after a few swings of the cluebat [12:57] oh how about that, he just responded [12:57] hopefully he can put it under group maintenance [12:58] or at least in svn [12:58] yeah he mentioned putting it in arch for him and me [12:58] i will propose pkg-mono [01:01] oh you did mail him the gaim fix right? [01:03] no I haven't sorry [01:03] ok [01:03] will file that as a bug [01:03] hm right [01:03] debugs baffles me [01:03] I've had a few years to get used to it [01:03] when is a web interface not a web interface? [01:04] when it doesn't let you interface with it [01:04] a: dbs [01:05] hm i thought id fixed f-spot in ubuntu [01:05] i guess not [01:06] i should just sync yours [01:06] that is uploaded, right? [01:08] mailed [01:08] yes, thanks [01:08] was going to ask elmo for sync [01:08] got distracted (again) [01:09] is it wrong that i want a *second* $800 lcd? === jamessan|laptop [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] no, it's wrong that you have *one* & I don't [01:10] tseng, where did you get those beauties? [01:10] although I do have a 21" & a 17" crt on my desk at home [01:10] Burgundavia: apple.com [01:10] dual-head goodness [01:10] tseng, lucky bastard [01:12] i dont know about that [01:13] i do have to work for it :) [01:13] right [01:14] only new hardware I've bought recently is a phone === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] im feeling pretty good about breezy now that ive just done a clean install [01:47] pretty much everything is working [01:47] even my stuff [01:47] :P [01:48] that's a good sign [01:48] even universe is in a fairly good shape, which is a surprise :) [01:48] i wish i knew what to do with mythtv [01:48] i miss it === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487BDF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] geez, the buildlogs are all green [02:03] you think we actually produce working code around here or something === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-041.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] " -automated control managment... remove this please ;)" [02:14] what does that mean ? [02:14] I'm not allowed to regenarte control from control.in ? === x_madbot [n=marcelo@200227181198-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === UbuWu [n=UbuWu@h8441227226.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CFDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] hub: yes, that's what it says, a number of people don't like control.in, and others, like debian gnome team, use it a lot === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax8-217.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] is there other things besides the cdbs build-depends that the control.in buys you? [03:29] well, that's what the cdbs tells to use [03:29] btw, I was just asking [03:30] bmonty: for debian, the Uploaders field [03:30] hub: I'm curious myself :) but it doesn't sound like control.in really gets you much, is that why people don't like it? [03:31] seems like it would make the build process a little more complicated without much gain [03:31] well, no really [03:31] it's not nearly as evil as modifying debian/rules at build time ;) [03:32] who modifies the rules at build time? [03:32] noone sane [03:32] and I doubt it would work [03:32] BTW, for breezy packages is cdbs or debhelper prefered? [03:33] bmonty: what do you mean, 'or'? [03:33] cdbs uses debhelper for a lot of tasks [03:33] ok....to use or not to use cdbs :) [03:33] depends on the package, but we recommend using cdbs once you understand what is going on :) [03:34] I like the fact that I don't have to create long lists of debhelper scripts in the rules file [03:36] yes, btu it does mean that you can package stuff without knowing what is going on underneath [03:36] which can be dangerous [03:37] you could say the same thing of debhelper....I felt that way the first time I messed with it [03:39] that's why some AMs in debian require their NM candidates to package shomething without debhelper [03:39] my typing has really gone downhill lately :) === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@pcp0011616119pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] nasty, someone still having issues with bugzilla #6805 (muine/ppc) [04:37] tseng: I'll test it out on the ppc box at home & see if it's still valid === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sol [n=sol@adsl-69-211-107-3.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] hello === goedson [n=goedson@BHE048159.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] running hoary amd64, installed seagate sata, fdisk freezes [05:07] something about... deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO === goedson [n=goedson@BHE048159.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [05:08] is there an existing kernel that will allow me to use the sata with hoary? [05:08] kernel pkg that is [05:09] sol: default Hoary kernel should, unless your SATA chipset is too new. In that case you can try recompiling Breezy's kernel. (Btw, this is better asked in #ubuntu.) [05:10] i did ask in ubuntu, sorry [05:10] thanx [05:10] np, I've only now reattached. [05:11] crimsun: is breezy's kernel a deb package? [05:11] oh [05:11] breezy the ubuntu release? [05:12] indeed [05:12] should i only grab the kernel? or go forward with distro upgrade? [05:12] well [05:13] ... an upgrade might work ;p [05:13] lol [05:13] right [05:13] fdisk shoudlnt break with that error tho [05:13] thats just a warning [05:13] not an error [05:13] tried cfdisk? [05:13] it never breaks [05:13] that is dmesg [05:13] you said it freezes [05:13] cfdisk and parted same thing [05:13] freezes yes [05:13] its not from that [05:16] may i paste two lines here? === mae_ [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] sure [05:23] sorry [05:23] here is the dmesg line upon parted attempt [05:23] Aug 14 17:03:58 localhost kernel: program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it [05:23] to SG_IO [05:23] er, messages [05:23] like i siad, its just a deprecation warning [05:24] there are no other meaningful messages i can find other than ata1 being busy at shutdown [05:24] etc... [05:24] well that sucks :) [05:24] lol [05:24] sure the disk isnt bad or something? [05:24] i have no way of checking really [05:24] brand new [06:06] bah, old openvpn package in hoary [06:07] hoary-backports should have 2.0-3 built from breezy [06:07] (yes, I know 2.0-4 is in sid) [06:08] hmmm, I have backports added thoguh [06:10] oh, backports does not cover my architecture [06:10] will have to rebuild the package anyway [06:11] this is a dual amd64 box :) === chillywilly doubts there's much difference between 2.0-3 and 2.0-4 [06:14] 2.0-3 should be good enough ;) === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-062-241-239-36.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-11-91.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-11-91.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-MOTU [] [07:04] hey, what version can I give a package that I built from sid sources for my own personal use so that if breezy gets the newer version it will then be upgraded? [07:06] 2.0-4 from sid? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] yea :) [07:12] try 2.0-4~3ubuntu1 [07:13] why 4~3...? [07:14] so -4 is higher than what's currently in breezy (-3) [presuming 2.0-4 goes in OR 2.0-4ubuntuX goes in] , but your local (-3ubuntu1) is higher than what's in hoary [07:15] at the same time it attempts to retain the original sid versioning [07:15] you don't have to mark it ubuntu1; you can use chillywilly1 or whatever [07:16] ok === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aisipos [n=aisipos@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] hello everyone [08:28] hello sivang [08:29] hey cat , how is it going? [08:30] here fixing my bugs on bx [08:34] and you'r self === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax6-062.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487BDF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=Natja@2.99-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] hmmm [09:27] who said they will fix x-g [09:27] oh yea [09:27] me [09:27] /slap HostingGeek === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] tseng: malone #1770 looks odd, as muine has deps on mono-classlib-1.0, perhaps not tight enough? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae_ [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [n=danten@h9n5c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CFDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === comadreja [n=comadrej@pdpc/supporter/active/comadreja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=mitsuhik@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=mitsuhik@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] <\sh> ogra: pingeling [10:50] pongelung [10:50] darn it, [10:50] <\sh> ogra: do u have any objections for having special not official main supported kernel packages in universe? [10:51] <\sh> ogra: what I'm thinking about is having kernel images for different computer models, with patches applied, which will never make it into main [10:51] <\sh> or vanilla kernel [10:52] \sh, please contact the kernel team about that... i.e. fabbione :) [10:53] i fthey have no objections its fine with me... but remember the many people that installd the totally broken bitkeeper snapshot fromuniverse in hoary === metallikop [i=i@pcp0011431183pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] just because it was 2.11 [10:53] hey ogra listen i'm a bitchx developer is there any way i can take the bx packaged on ubuntu? [10:54] <\sh> ogra: well..actually I'm thinking about providing special kernels for installation media and running kernels for things like these crappy toshiba drivers [10:54] <\sh> cat: we don't know something like maintainers...in ubuntu. so if you want to change something on the package...please do and provide patches, become a motu and help us [10:55] cat, you are upstream maintainer or debian maintainer for it ? [10:56] i'm just a bitchx developer ogra [10:56] so upstream ... [10:56] yeah [10:57] and the 1.0 version we ship is to old ? [10:57] naw [10:58] hmm, then i dont understand the question i fear [10:58] well i wanted it to take over the bitchx packaged for ubuntu but i fear someone has it (: [10:58] <\sh> ogra: he wants to maintain the package in ubuntu [10:58] <\sh> cat: again...we don't have maintainership in ubuntu.. [10:58] cat, we dont have personalized packages [10:59] aj [10:59] *oh [10:59] cat, we do everything as a team... even if some have their favorite packages .... [10:59] oh ic [11:00] damn there's nothing i can do on ubuntu =) [11:00] hehe [11:02] <\sh> cat: we have enough to get u working for ubuntu :) [11:02] such as \sh ? [11:02] and indeed you could maintain the bitchX package.... (if ubuntu specific changes are required) [11:04] we all have ur favorite packages nobody else would touch without asking... but unlike debian you dont get a flamewar if you really touch someone elses stuff :) [11:04] true, [11:04] well my main goal is to worked, on ubuntu doing something [11:04] but i still haven't find anything [11:05] cat: if you think, something needs to be done on the ubuntu bitchx package, just go on and improve it. we appreciate every contribution :) [11:05] hi folks [11:06] cat: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo [11:06] (assuming thats up to date) [11:06] siretart: well there's nothing to be changed (: [11:06] morning siretart [11:07] hi ogra [11:07] cat, look at "How to help / Ongoing tasks" === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [n=hcauweli@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] hello [11:29] <\sh> herve: nice to see u :) [11:29] yeah, sometimes my life gets back to normal :-) [11:29] though it's hard to type with a cat in your arms [11:34] ho, there will be a xorg 6.9 [11:34] I though 7.0 was the next one [11:37] 6.9 and 7.0 are equivalent, except for the build system [11:37] 6.9 is the last monolithic [11:37] ho, we really are heading the 7.0 [11:40] <\sh> ok...lets try to build something in this baby [11:43] ooohh portege toy... [11:44] jsgotangco: you got your laptop now? [11:44] or is it still held up in customs? :) [11:45] oh i love those customs people [11:45] <\sh> jsgotangco: what u r getting? [11:45] heh [11:45] im getting the Tecra M2 tommorow [11:46] nice [11:46] ajmitch_, are you getting one as well? [11:46] I'm getting "a HP", but I don't know which one yet [11:46] jsgotangco: dell inspiron 710m [11:46] that's what I heard, anyway === jsgotangco checks that [11:47] i think the dells are a bit delayed [11:47] 510m, sorry [11:48] wouldn't surprise me if they were [11:48] nice review on the 510m though [11:50] yep [11:52] I have no idea what to expect yet :) [11:53] so I've started filling the template for my old 600MHz craptop :) [11:53] heh === ajmitch_ could do the same for his 400MHz beast [11:53] \o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusL7300G [11:54] I have a 386SX 16 MHz, now beat this :-) [11:54] herve: that won't run ubuntu afaik [11:54] herve: laptop? :) === ajmitch_ would have to reinstall hoary on his laptop to check things out there [11:55] portable at least :-) [11:55] CGA graphics? :) [11:55] no vga, but gray [11:55] MCGA 8) [11:55] talk about vintage on the wiki :) [11:56] I see this: "the laptop when I didn't even know how to walk" [11:56] herve: my parents have one of these: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5705/p70.html [11:56] herve: and one of these: http://www.computercloset.org/IBMPortablePC.htm [11:57] ho no, it's not that old [11:57] herve: then you're too young ;) [11:57] we used to have a portable trs 80 then [11:57] no I exagerated, I don't even know its year === jsgotangco lol on the links [11:58] Treenaks: I want one! [11:59] ooh, nice usplash [12:00] <\sh> ajmitch_: usplash? if this is the thing what I'm looking at when I'm booting up the actual dev kernel...then it's shiddy ,-) [12:01] \sh: it's a start ;) [12:01] hmm [12:01] laptop not booting, I wonder what's wrong now... [12:01] ah, 180 days without fsck [12:02] <\sh> ajmitch_: we should have something like the gentoo splash...this was really nice...and a windowed vga console ,-) [12:02] \sh: and we're limited to vga16fb, of course :) [12:02] ajmitch_: what? an IBM Portable? [12:02] Treenaks: sure [12:03] <\sh> ajmitch_: change it ,-) [12:03] \sh: change what part? [12:05] yay, xkb complaints on login === ajmitch_ upgrades to x -49 [12:10] ajmitch_: luis did the same thing [12:10] ajmitch_: there was some kind of upgrade issue [12:10] tseng: right, that's a worry [12:10] since the Depends look fine [12:10] i just did a clean install yesterday and its fine [12:11] brb [12:23] is there a known issue with no sound in clean breezy installs, btw? [12:29] ajmitch_: sounds like beagle et al will be in baz to start [12:30] ajmitch_: he is really excited about giving us power to branch and merge [12:30] yeah, baz is pretty nice for that [12:31] buh at ppc mono bug [12:31] madduck just held a baz & debian packaging session the other day on irc [12:31] right [12:31] tseng: yeah I'll try & get the downstairs imac booted up & test it [12:31] i think i had this bug filed a year ago [12:31] installed hoary on it a few weeks back [12:32] and invalidated it after a few ppc tests [12:32] and upstream says fixed [12:32] yes, and it only seems to show up on a few boxes - now after a few months someone has it again [12:32] $ mcs --version [12:32] Mono C# compiler version 0.91.0.0 [12:32] i mean [12:32] ancient.. [12:32] thats ancient history [12:33] the bug is from 05/2004 [12:33] then why does someone see it on a current hoary box? [12:33] it just doesn't make sense [12:34] yheah [12:34] not that we can do much about hoary anyway [12:36] oh this is the same bug [12:36] that i closed [12:41] yep [12:41] ok, on the mac now [12:46] looks like it'll take a few minuts === Tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] tseng: wonderful, I get the SIGILL on hoary === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw7ne-54f9122e.dsl.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] brb [01:08] who maintains the bazar branch of planner/main? [01:09] is that ever merged back into the Ubuntu packages? [01:09] http://arch.ubuntu.com/planner@bazaar.ubuntu.com/planner--MAIN--0/ [01:11] that's probably a mirror of the planner CVS. [01:12] hmm. ok [01:13] Question: I've upgraded to Breezy (and hence firefox 1.0.6) and the fonts in firefox are QUITE a bit larger than before.... Can anyone tell me why? === NigelS [i=nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === goedson [n=goedson@BHE048159.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === goedson [n=goedson@BHE048159.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ajmitch_1 [n=ajmitch@port163-186.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] Ok, let me rephrase: Does anyone else have larger fonts in firefox after upgrading to Breezy? [01:23] shawarma, this is not a support channel and i'm sure there are some bugreports open about it [01:26] The topic of #ubuntu says not to use Breezy and I figured there would be more people actually running Breezy in here. I'm asking because I'm willing to work on fixing it, and it helps a lot to know if it's a common wellknown problem or something specific to my system.. [01:28] this is the channel for universe package development... we dont even touch firefox if you want to help fixing, go to #ubuntu-devel ... [01:28] ah, faster DSL finally :) [01:29] shawarma, it helps a lot if you look in bugzilla first, thats an ancient cairo/ff bug.... ;) [01:29] there must be several reports === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw7ne-54f9122e.dsl.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:33] ogra: Cairo? [01:35] ogra: Oh, and I can't seem to find any bug report about it in bugzilla? Do you have a link available? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-088-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PzyCrow [n=john@ua-83-227-230-228.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] ajmitch, whats DSL like over in NZ ? === kezz [n=kezz@user-561.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] Odd. Is there anyway I can force my package to uninstall the previous version BEFORE installing my new one ? === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] it is causing some issues with leaving files behind. I could rm them, but that seems like a hack [02:12] Yagisan: DSL in NZ is bad [02:12] nearly as bad as .au :) [02:13] I'd say worse, but we *just* got 2Mbps available [02:13] Yagisan: w.r.t your packages, use Conflicts/Replaces fields in debian/control [02:14] if files are moved between packages.. otherwise I'm not sure what you mean? === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [n=danten@h9n5c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === PzyCrow [n=john@ua-83-227-230-228.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Danten [n=danten@h9n5c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [02:31] Sorry ajmitch - had to feed bub. [02:32] WRT my packages, a dpkg-divert moved packages, and became policy compliant at the same time === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] DSL does look better in NZ :( [02:33] Yagisan: that's funny, I was on 256/128 until yesterday [02:33] I wouldn't call that better :) [02:33] I had dialup until I went to UDU [02:34] I pay for 1500/256 but I wouldn't say its reliable [02:34] and I know the copper cables could do better [02:35] WRT my packages - go with a rm hack ? [02:38] I have replaces, but no conflicts in my control. I'll rebuild a see if I still need a rm hack [02:38] rm hacks are not good to do [02:39] ah, you were at UDU as well? [02:39] I know - I'll find out in 10mins if I still need to do it [02:39] yeah, I met you andrew [02:39] yeah sorry, I don't recognise irc nicks I don't see often :) [02:40] I signed your key and 6days later had my machine die taking my old key down with it :( [02:40] ouch :) [02:40] lesson to self, never store backups on cheap cds - when you need them they don't restore [02:40] or verify your backups. [02:41] verified yes, but that was 4 weeks prior [02:41] moved to a RAID5 for hdd, and DVD+RW for backups now [02:43] anyone ppc here ? [02:44] yes, I've got ppc running at the moment [02:45] after I've finished with my package, could you see if it builds in ppc for me [02:45] ok, it's only got hoary at the moment [02:45] but I can test === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] that's fine - it's targeted at hoary while I develop it. [02:47] ok [02:51] hooray - succesfull migration === Natja [n=Natja@202.114-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] Howdy [03:07] G'day [03:11] hi bddebian [03:12] Heya ajmitch [03:13] Heya \sh [03:14] <\sh> re [03:14] <\sh> grmpf [03:15] <\sh> why are they delivering a dvd rom for recovery when there is no dvd rom.. [03:15] <\sh> stupid [03:15] <\sh> i can't even pxe this image [03:17] bzr is certainly interesting, just playing with it for packaging some of my stuff === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko___@dsl-084-059-072-034.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-55-201.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mbreit [n=mo@p54875DA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] hi [04:16] Heya mbreit === ogra [n=ogra@p5089ECA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] Heya ogra === rem_ [n=rem@adsl-141-183-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] yay microsoft centered supports! [04:26] ? === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] I just talked to my laptops supportcentre after my optical unit acting up [04:27] they can't ensure things will work on linux [04:28] so I told them I can, I got a log of the errors the kernel tell me when I insert a CD, I'm in the developteam for the operative system I'm using and their hardware just turned crappy. [04:28] they'll send me a new burner this week :-). [04:30] Ahh :-) [04:31] I knew something was up when I couldn't use one of those hoary livecds I got with the mail ;-) [04:32] seems to work with one of my burned CDs though [04:32] but not with a blank one [04:32] anyway, odd, and I'll get a new drive ;-) === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] Nafallo, lol :) === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] can someone upload my passepartout-fix for me? === Seveaz [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] ajmitch: "wonderful" indeed [04:59] ajmitch: tried breezy? === Nafallo_ [i=nafallo@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo_ [i=nafallo@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo_ [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisa1 [n=jamie@220-245-76-217-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] Anyone here with experience in putting a shell script "doghouse" around a badly designed program ? [05:52] like a chroot? [05:52] more like a diversion [05:53] the app in question, craps in the CWD [05:53] I set up a doghouse to contain it to $HOME/.deng [05:53] but I seem to have made a mistake in setting up dpkg-divert [05:54] in my preinst [05:55] I set up two diverts, one to move the app to .real, and one to move my .sh to the original command location [05:56] but it errors on install, so this is a bad thing === Mitario [n=michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] OK. I'll go with one divert, and symlink. See if it works better like that. === ozamosi [n=ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ltsp [n=tester@p5089DC22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] what's wrong with kazehakase? [06:27] is there something wrong ? [06:27] except the strange name [06:27] Build-Dep: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.8) [06:27] Build-Conflict: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.9) [06:28] the binary deps mozilla-browser and conflicts with the same versions [06:28] ouch === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] ogra_ltsp: I take care of it though. I'll ask the user to file a bug on malone :-). [06:32] karma, here we come! :-) [06:33] :) [06:35] ogra_ltsp: you're on ltsp? [06:36] zup [06:36] with breoken kezmap as zou can see :) === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@mcb1013.mcb.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] tried the edubuntu daily..... but its still to broken ... you cnt easily work wround the breakage yet [06:37] ogra_ltsp: what steps shall I take when I want to book #ubuntu-meeting? ;-) [06:37] just look at the Calendar... if nothing is scheduled, grab it [06:40] oki :-) [06:41] re [06:41] Does anyone know if Andrew McMillan does irc? [06:44] and more importantly, do DD cound as reviewer fuer REVU purposes? [06:44] I'd say yes, but wanted to hear a second opinion === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DC22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntuguy [n=dhsfkfas@24.149.213.217] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] anyone: ndiswrapper will not modprobe insert. Modprobe reports a fatal error. Does anyone know how to fix this? [06:48] what is the error? [06:48] the error is not specific [06:48] it simply states fatal error can not insert [06:48] or something real close to that [06:49] can you carry that to a support channel like #ubuntu please ? [06:50] this is one for universe development... [06:50] ogra: sorry, I tried there, I'm desperate. [06:52] several people have reported this error on a thread on the ubuntuforums.org [06:52] thanks anyway === ubuntuguy [n=dhsfkfas@24.149.213.217] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:53] someone should tell the people that forums are not the place to report bugs if they want them solved *sigh* [06:54] yeah especially when the kernel-team doesnt really read the forums :) [06:54] does any team? ;-) [06:54] maybe the docteam? [06:55]