[12:50] <tseng> wow beagle actually works 100% out of the box
[12:54] <ajmitch_> is user_xattr set, or does it not need to be now?
[12:55] <tseng> its not a hard requirement now
[12:55] <ajmitch_> great
[12:55] <tseng> its more like "you really want this"
[12:55] <tseng> it falls back on sqlite and is slow
[12:56] <ajmitch_> might be good to put something in README.Debian or even NEWS.Debian about that
[12:56] <tseng> well it soon wont be my package anymore
[12:56] <tseng> we get to complain to someone else
[12:56] <ajmitch_> you'rr going to use the debian package?
[12:57] <tseng> sure, after a few swings of the cluebat
[12:57] <tseng> oh how about that, he just responded
[12:57] <ajmitch_> hopefully he can put it under group maintenance
[12:58] <ajmitch_> or at least in svn
[12:58] <tseng> yeah he mentioned putting it in arch for him and me
[12:58] <tseng> i will propose pkg-mono
[01:01] <tseng> oh you did mail him the gaim fix right?
[01:03] <ajmitch_> no I haven't sorry
[01:03] <tseng> ok
[01:03] <ajmitch_> will file that as a bug
[01:03] <tseng> hm right
[01:03] <tseng> debugs baffles me
[01:03] <ajmitch_> I've had a few years to get used to it
[01:03] <tseng> when is a web interface not a web interface?
[01:04] <ajmitch_> when it doesn't let you interface with it
[01:04] <tseng> a: dbs
[01:05] <tseng> hm i thought id fixed f-spot in ubuntu
[01:05] <tseng> i guess not
[01:06] <tseng> i should just sync yours
[01:06] <tseng> that is uploaded, right?
[01:08] <tseng> mailed
[01:08] <ajmitch_> yes, thanks
[01:08] <ajmitch_> was going to ask elmo for sync
[01:08] <ajmitch_> got distracted (again)
[01:09] <tseng> is it wrong that i want a *second* $800 lcd?
[01:10] <ajmitch_> no, it's wrong that you have *one* & I don't
[01:10] <Burgundavia> tseng, where did you get those beauties?
[01:10] <ajmitch_> although I do have a 21" & a 17" crt on my desk at home
[01:10] <tseng> Burgundavia: apple.com
[01:10] <ajmitch_> dual-head goodness
[01:10] <Burgundavia> tseng, lucky bastard
[01:12] <tseng> i dont know about that
[01:13] <tseng> i do have to work for it :)
[01:13] <Burgundavia> right
[01:14] <ajmitch_> only new hardware I've bought recently is a phone
[01:47] <tseng> im feeling pretty good about breezy now that ive just done a clean install
[01:47] <tseng> pretty much everything is working
[01:47] <tseng> even my stuff
[01:47] <tseng> :P
[01:48] <ajmitch_> that's a good sign
[01:48] <ajmitch_> even universe is in a fairly good shape, which is a surprise :)
[01:48] <tseng> i wish i knew what to do with mythtv
[01:48] <tseng> i miss it
[02:02] <Burgundavia> geez, the buildlogs are all green
[02:03] <Burgundavia> you think we actually produce working code around here or something
[02:14] <hub> " -automated control managment... remove this please ;)"
[02:14] <hub> what does that mean ?
[02:14] <hub> I'm not allowed to regenarte control from control.in ?
[03:02] <ajmitch_> hub: yes, that's what it says, a number of people don't like control.in, and others, like debian gnome team, use it a lot
[03:29] <bmonty> is there other things besides the cdbs build-depends that the control.in buys you?
[03:29] <hub> well, that's what the cdbs tells to use
[03:29] <hub> btw, I was just asking
[03:30] <ajmitch_> bmonty: for debian, the Uploaders field
[03:30] <bmonty> hub: I'm curious myself :)  but it doesn't sound like control.in really gets you much, is that why people don't like it?
[03:31] <bmonty> seems like it would make the build process a little more complicated without much gain
[03:31] <hub> well, no really
[03:31] <ajmitch_> it's not nearly as evil as modifying debian/rules at build time ;)
[03:32] <bmonty> who modifies the rules at build time?
[03:32] <ajmitch_> noone sane
[03:32] <ajmitch_> and I doubt it would work
[03:32] <bmonty> BTW, for breezy packages is cdbs or debhelper prefered?
[03:33] <ajmitch_> bmonty: what do you mean, 'or'?
[03:33] <ajmitch_> cdbs uses debhelper for a lot of tasks
[03:33] <bmonty> ok....to use or not to use cdbs :)
[03:33] <ajmitch_> depends on the package, but we recommend using cdbs once you understand what is going on :)
[03:34] <bmonty> I like the fact that I don't have to create long lists of debhelper scripts in the rules file
[03:36] <ajmitch_> yes, btu it does mean that you can package stuff without knowing what is going on underneath
[03:36] <ajmitch_> which can be dangerous
[03:37] <bmonty> you could say the same thing of debhelper....I felt that way the first time I messed with it
[03:39] <ajmitch_> that's why some AMs in debian require their NM candidates to package shomething without debhelper
[03:39] <ajmitch_> my typing has really gone downhill lately :)
[04:35] <ajmitch_> nasty, someone still having issues with bugzilla #6805 (muine/ppc)
[04:37] <ajmitch_> tseng: I'll test it out on the ppc box at home & see if it's still valid
[05:07] <sol> hello
[05:07] <sol> running hoary amd64, installed seagate sata, fdisk freezes
[05:07] <sol> something about...  deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO
[05:08] <sol> is there an existing kernel that will allow me to use the sata with hoary?
[05:08] <sol> kernel pkg that is
[05:09] <crimsun> sol: default Hoary kernel should, unless your SATA chipset is too new. In that case you can try recompiling Breezy's kernel. (Btw, this is better asked in #ubuntu.)
[05:10] <sol> i did ask in ubuntu, sorry
[05:10] <sol> thanx
[05:10] <crimsun> np, I've only now reattached.
[05:11] <sol> crimsun: is breezy's kernel a deb package?
[05:11] <sol> oh
[05:11] <sol> breezy the ubuntu release?
[05:12] <Lathiat> indeed
[05:12] <sol> should i only grab the kernel? or go forward with distro upgrade?
[05:12] <Lathiat> well
[05:13] <Lathiat> ... an upgrade might work ;p
[05:13] <sol> lol
[05:13] <sol> right
[05:13] <Lathiat> fdisk shoudlnt break with that error tho
[05:13] <Lathiat> thats just a warning
[05:13] <Lathiat> not an error
[05:13] <Lathiat> tried cfdisk?
[05:13] <sol> it never breaks
[05:13] <sol> that is dmesg
[05:13] <Lathiat> you said it freezes
[05:13] <sol> cfdisk and parted same thing
[05:13] <sol> freezes yes
[05:13] <Lathiat> its not from that
[05:16] <sol> may i paste two lines here?
[05:19] <Lathiat> sure
[05:23] <sol> sorry
[05:23] <sol> here is the dmesg line upon parted attempt
[05:23] <sol> Aug 14 17:03:58 localhost kernel: program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it
[05:23] <sol> to SG_IO
[05:23] <sol> er, messages
[05:23] <Lathiat> like i siad, its just a deprecation warning
[05:24] <sol> there are no other meaningful messages i can find other than ata1 being busy at shutdown
[05:24] <sol> etc...
[05:24] <Lathiat> well that sucks :)
[05:24] <sol> lol
[05:24] <Lathiat> sure the disk isnt bad or something?
[05:24] <sol> i have no way of checking really
[05:24] <sol> brand new
[06:06] <chillywilly> bah, old openvpn package in hoary
[06:07] <crimsun> hoary-backports should have 2.0-3 built from breezy
[06:07] <crimsun> (yes, I know 2.0-4 is in sid)
[06:08] <chillywilly> hmmm, I have backports added thoguh
[06:10] <chillywilly> oh, backports does not cover my architecture
[06:10] <chillywilly> will have to rebuild the package anyway
[06:11] <chillywilly> this is a dual amd64 box :)
[06:14] <chillywilly> 2.0-3 should be good enough ;)
[07:04] <chillywilly> hey, what version can I give a package that I built from sid sources for my own personal use so that if breezy gets the newer version it will then be upgraded?
[07:06] <crimsun> 2.0-4 from sid?
[07:07] <chillywilly> yea :)
[07:12] <crimsun> try 2.0-4~3ubuntu1
[07:13] <chillywilly> why 4~3...?
[07:14] <crimsun> so -4 is higher than what's currently in breezy (-3) [presuming 2.0-4 goes in OR 2.0-4ubuntuX goes in] , but your local (-3ubuntu1) is higher than what's in hoary
[07:15] <crimsun> at the same time it attempts to retain the original sid versioning
[07:15] <crimsun> you don't have to mark it ubuntu1; you can use chillywilly1 or whatever
[07:16] <chillywilly> ok
[08:23] <sivang> hello everyone
[08:28] <cat> hello sivang
[08:29] <sivang> hey cat , how is it going?
[08:30] <cat> here fixing my bugs on bx
[08:34] <cat> and you'r self
[09:27] <HostingGeek> hmmm
[09:27] <HostingGeek> who said they will fix x-g
[09:27] <HostingGeek> oh yea
[09:27] <HostingGeek> me
[09:27] <HostingGeek> /slap HostingGeek
[09:38] <ajmitch_> tseng: malone #1770 looks odd, as muine has deps on mono-classlib-1.0, perhaps not tight enough?
[10:49] <\sh> ogra: pingeling
[10:50] <ogra> pongelung
[10:50] <cat> darn it,
[10:50] <\sh> ogra: do u have any objections for having special not official main supported kernel packages in universe?
[10:51] <\sh> ogra: what I'm thinking about is having kernel images for different computer models, with patches applied, which will never make it into main
[10:51] <\sh> or vanilla kernel
[10:52] <ogra> \sh, please contact the kernel team about that... i.e. fabbione :)
[10:53] <ogra> i fthey have no objections its fine with me... but remember the many people that installd the totally broken bitkeeper snapshot fromuniverse in hoary
[10:53] <ogra> just because it was 2.11
[10:53] <cat> hey ogra listen i'm a bitchx developer is there any way i can take the bx packaged on ubuntu?
[10:54] <\sh> ogra: well..actually I'm thinking about providing special kernels for installation media and running kernels for things like these crappy toshiba drivers
[10:54] <\sh> cat: we don't know something like maintainers...in ubuntu. so if you want to change something on the package...please do and provide patches, become a motu and help us
[10:55] <ogra> cat, you are upstream maintainer or debian maintainer for it ?
[10:56] <cat> i'm just a bitchx developer ogra
[10:56] <ogra> so upstream ...
[10:56] <cat> yeah
[10:57] <ogra> and the 1.0 version we ship is to old ?
[10:57] <cat> naw
[10:58] <ogra> hmm, then i dont understand the question i fear
[10:58] <cat> well i wanted it to take over the bitchx packaged for ubuntu but i fear someone has it (:
[10:58] <\sh> ogra: he wants to maintain the package in ubuntu
[10:58] <\sh> cat: again...we don't have maintainership in ubuntu..
[10:58] <ogra> cat, we dont have personalized packages
[10:59] <cat> aj
[10:59] <cat> *oh
[10:59] <ogra> cat, we do everything as a team... even if some have their favorite packages ....
[10:59] <cat> oh ic
[11:00] <cat> damn there's nothing i can do on ubuntu =)
[11:00] <cat> hehe
[11:02] <\sh> cat: we have enough to get u working for ubuntu :)
[11:02] <cat> such as \sh ?
[11:02] <ogra> and indeed you could maintain the bitchX package.... (if ubuntu specific changes are required)
[11:04] <ogra> we all have ur favorite packages nobody else would touch without asking... but unlike debian you dont get a flamewar if you really touch someone elses stuff :)
[11:04] <cat> true,
[11:04] <cat> well my main goal is to worked, on ubuntu doing something
[11:04] <cat> but i still haven't find anything
[11:05] <siretart> cat: if you think, something needs to be done on the ubuntu bitchx package, just go on and improve it. we appreciate every contribution :)
[11:05] <siretart> hi folks
[11:06] <ogra> cat: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo
[11:06] <ogra> (assuming thats up to date)
[11:06] <cat> siretart: well there's nothing to be changed (:
[11:06] <ogra> morning siretart
[11:07] <siretart> hi ogra
[11:07] <ogra> cat, look at "How to help / Ongoing tasks"
[11:21] <herve> hello
[11:29] <\sh> herve: nice to see u :)
[11:29] <herve> yeah, sometimes my life gets back to normal :-)
[11:29] <herve> though it's hard to type with a cat in your arms
[11:34] <herve> ho, there will be a xorg 6.9
[11:34] <herve> I though 7.0 was the next one
[11:37] <Mithrandir> 6.9 and 7.0 are equivalent, except for the build system
[11:37] <Mithrandir> 6.9 is the last monolithic
[11:37] <herve> ho, we really are heading the 7.0
[11:40] <\sh> ok...lets try to build something in this baby
[11:43] <jsgotangco> ooohh portege toy...
[11:44] <ajmitch_> jsgotangco: you got your laptop now?
[11:44] <ajmitch_> or is it still held up in customs? :)
[11:45] <jsgotangco> oh i love those customs people
[11:45] <\sh> jsgotangco: what u r getting?
[11:45] <ajmitch_> heh
[11:45] <jsgotangco> im getting the Tecra M2 tommorow
[11:46] <ajmitch_> nice
[11:46] <jsgotangco> ajmitch_, are you getting one as well?
[11:46] <Treenaks> I'm getting "a HP", but I don't know which one yet
[11:46] <ajmitch_> jsgotangco: dell inspiron 710m
[11:46] <ajmitch_> that's what I heard, anyway
[11:47] <jsgotangco> i think the dells are a bit delayed
[11:47] <ajmitch_> 510m, sorry
[11:48] <ajmitch_> wouldn't surprise me if they were
[11:48] <jsgotangco> nice review on the 510m though
[11:50] <ajmitch_> yep
[11:52] <Treenaks> I have no idea what to expect yet :)
[11:53] <Treenaks> so I've started filling the template for my old 600MHz craptop :)
[11:53] <ajmitch_> heh
[11:53] <Treenaks> \o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusL7300G
[11:54] <herve> I have a 386SX 16 MHz, now beat this :-)
[11:54] <Treenaks> herve: that won't run ubuntu afaik
[11:54] <ajmitch_> herve: laptop? :)
[11:55] <herve> portable at least :-)
[11:55] <jsgotangco> CGA graphics? :)
[11:55] <herve> no vga, but gray
[11:55] <Treenaks> MCGA 8)
[11:55] <jsgotangco> talk about vintage on the wiki :)
[11:56] <herve> I see this: "the laptop when I didn't even know how to walk"
[11:56] <Treenaks> herve: my parents have one of these: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5705/p70.html
[11:56] <Treenaks> herve: and one of these: http://www.computercloset.org/IBMPortablePC.htm
[11:57] <herve> ho no, it's not that old
[11:57] <Treenaks> herve: then you're too young ;)
[11:57] <jsgotangco> we used to have a portable trs 80 then
[11:57] <herve> no I exagerated, I don't even know its year
[11:58] <ajmitch_> Treenaks: I want one!
[11:59] <ajmitch_> ooh, nice usplash
[12:00] <\sh> ajmitch_: usplash? if this is the thing what I'm looking at when I'm booting up the actual dev kernel...then it's shiddy ,-)
[12:01] <ajmitch_> \sh: it's a start ;)
[12:01] <ajmitch_> hmm
[12:01] <ajmitch_> laptop not booting, I wonder what's wrong now...
[12:01] <ajmitch_> ah, 180 days without fsck
[12:02] <\sh> ajmitch_: we should have something like the gentoo splash...this was really nice...and a windowed vga console ,-)
[12:02] <ajmitch_> \sh: and we're limited to vga16fb, of course :)
[12:02] <Treenaks> ajmitch_: what? an IBM Portable?
[12:02] <ajmitch_> Treenaks: sure
[12:03] <\sh> ajmitch_: change it ,-)
[12:03] <ajmitch_> \sh: change what part?
[12:05] <ajmitch_> yay, xkb complaints on login
[12:10] <tseng> ajmitch_: luis did the same thing
[12:10] <tseng> ajmitch_: there was some kind of upgrade issue
[12:10] <ajmitch_> tseng: right, that's a worry
[12:10] <ajmitch_> since the Depends look fine
[12:10] <tseng> i just did a clean install yesterday and its fine
[12:11] <jsgotangco> brb
[12:23] <tseng> is there a known issue with no sound in clean breezy installs, btw?
[12:29] <tseng> ajmitch_: sounds like beagle et al will be in baz to start
[12:30] <tseng> ajmitch_: he is really excited about giving us power to branch and merge
[12:30] <ajmitch_> yeah, baz is pretty nice for that
[12:31] <tseng> buh at ppc mono bug
[12:31] <ajmitch_> madduck just held a baz & debian packaging session the other day on irc
[12:31] <tseng> right
[12:31] <ajmitch_> tseng: yeah I'll try & get the downstairs imac booted up & test it
[12:31] <tseng> i think i had this bug filed a year ago
[12:31] <ajmitch_> installed hoary on it a few weeks back
[12:32] <tseng> and invalidated it after a few ppc tests
[12:32] <tseng> and upstream says fixed
[12:32] <ajmitch_> yes, and it only seems to show up on a few boxes - now after a few months someone has it again
[12:32] <tseng> $ mcs --version
[12:32] <tseng> &#65279;Mono C# compiler version 0.91.0.0
[12:32] <tseng> i mean
[12:32] <ajmitch_> ancient..
[12:32] <tseng> thats ancient history
[12:33] <tseng> the bug is from 05/2004
[12:33] <ajmitch_> then why does someone see it on a current hoary box?
[12:33] <ajmitch_> it just doesn't make sense
[12:34] <tseng> yheah
[12:34] <tseng> not that we can do much about hoary anyway
[12:36] <tseng> oh this is the same bug
[12:36] <tseng> that i closed
[12:41] <ajmitch_> yep
[12:41] <ajmitch_> ok, on the mac now
[12:46] <ajmitch_> looks like it'll take a few minuts
[12:57] <ajmitch_> tseng: wonderful, I get the SIGILL on hoary
[01:08] <ajmitch_> brb
[01:08] <Q-FUNK> who maintains the bazar branch of planner/main?
[01:09] <Q-FUNK> is that ever merged back into the Ubuntu packages?
[01:09] <Q-FUNK> http://arch.ubuntu.com/planner@bazaar.ubuntu.com/planner--MAIN--0/
[01:11] <Mithrandir> that's probably a mirror of the planner CVS.
[01:12] <Q-FUNK> hmm. ok
[01:13] <shawarma> Question: I've upgraded to Breezy (and hence firefox 1.0.6) and the fonts in firefox are QUITE a bit larger than before.... Can anyone tell me why?
[01:22] <shawarma> Ok, let me rephrase: Does anyone else have larger fonts in firefox after upgrading to Breezy?
[01:23] <ogra> shawarma, this is not a support channel and i'm sure there are some bugreports open about it
[01:26] <shawarma> The topic of #ubuntu says not to use Breezy and I figured there would be more people actually running Breezy in here. I'm asking because I'm willing to work on fixing it, and it helps a lot to know if it's a common wellknown problem or something specific to my system..
[01:28] <ogra> this is the channel for universe package development... we dont even touch firefox if you want to help fixing, go to #ubuntu-devel ...
[01:28] <ajmitch> ah, faster DSL finally :)
[01:29] <ogra> shawarma, it helps a lot if you look in bugzilla first, thats an ancient cairo/ff bug.... ;)
[01:29] <ogra> there must be several reports
[01:33] <shawarma> ogra: Cairo?
[01:35] <shawarma> ogra: Oh, and I can't seem to find any bug report about it in bugzilla? Do you have a link available?
[01:57] <Yagisan> ajmitch, whats DSL like over in NZ ?
[02:05] <Yagisan> Odd. Is there anyway I can force my package to uninstall the previous version BEFORE installing my new one ?
[02:07] <Yagisan> it is causing some issues with leaving files behind. I could rm them, but that seems like a hack
[02:12] <ajmitch> Yagisan: DSL in NZ is bad
[02:12] <ajmitch> nearly as bad as .au :)
[02:13] <ajmitch> I'd say worse, but we *just* got 2Mbps available
[02:13] <ajmitch> Yagisan: w.r.t your packages, use Conflicts/Replaces fields in debian/control
[02:14] <ajmitch> if files are moved between packages.. otherwise I'm not sure what you mean?
[02:31] <Yagisan> Sorry ajmitch - had to feed bub.
[02:32] <Yagisan> WRT my packages, a dpkg-divert moved packages, and became policy compliant at the same time
[02:33] <Yagisan> DSL does look better in NZ :(
[02:33] <ajmitch> Yagisan: that's funny, I was on 256/128 until yesterday
[02:33] <ajmitch> I wouldn't call that better :)
[02:33] <Yagisan> I had dialup until I went to UDU
[02:34] <Yagisan> I pay for 1500/256 but I wouldn't say its reliable
[02:34] <Yagisan> and I know the copper cables could do better
[02:35] <Yagisan> WRT my packages - go with a rm hack ?
[02:38] <Yagisan> I have replaces, but no conflicts in my control. I'll rebuild a see if I still need a rm hack
[02:38] <ajmitch> rm hacks are not good to do
[02:39] <ajmitch> ah, you were at UDU as well?
[02:39] <Yagisan> I know - I'll find out in 10mins if I still need to do it
[02:39] <Yagisan> yeah, I met you andrew
[02:39] <ajmitch> yeah sorry, I don't recognise irc nicks I don't see often :)
[02:40] <Yagisan> I signed your key and 6days later had my machine die taking my old key down with it :(
[02:40] <ajmitch> ouch :)
[02:40] <Yagisan> lesson to self, never store backups on cheap cds - when you need them they don't restore
[02:40] <Mithrandir> or verify your backups.
[02:41] <Yagisan> verified yes, but that was 4 weeks prior
[02:41] <Yagisan> moved to a RAID5 for hdd, and DVD+RW for backups now
[02:43] <Yagisan> anyone ppc here ?
[02:44] <ajmitch> yes, I've got ppc running at the moment
[02:45] <Yagisan> after I've finished with my package, could you see if it builds in ppc for me
[02:45] <ajmitch> ok, it's only got hoary at the moment
[02:45] <ajmitch> but I can test
[02:46] <Yagisan> that's fine - it's targeted at hoary while I develop it.
[02:47] <ajmitch> ok
[02:51] <Yagisan> hooray - succesfull migration
[03:07] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:07] <Yagisan> G'day
[03:11] <ajmitch> hi bddebian
[03:12] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[03:13] <bddebian> Heya \sh
[03:14] <\sh> re
[03:14] <\sh> grmpf
[03:15] <\sh> why are they delivering a dvd rom for recovery when there is no dvd rom..
[03:15] <\sh> stupid
[03:15] <\sh> i can't even pxe this image
[03:17] <ajmitch> bzr is certainly interesting, just playing with it for packaging some of my stuff
[04:14] <mbreit> hi
[04:16] <bddebian> Heya mbreit
[04:23] <bddebian> Heya ogra
[04:26] <Nafallo> yay microsoft centered supports!
[04:26] <bddebian>  ?
[04:27] <Nafallo> I just talked to my laptops supportcentre after my optical unit acting up
[04:27] <Nafallo> they can't ensure things will work on linux
[04:28] <Nafallo> so I told them I can, I got a log of the errors the kernel tell me when I insert a CD, I'm in the developteam for the operative system I'm using and their hardware just turned crappy.
[04:28] <Nafallo> they'll send me a new burner this week :-).
[04:30] <bddebian> Ahh :-)
[04:31] <Nafallo> I knew something was up when I couldn't use one of those hoary livecds I got with the mail ;-)
[04:32] <Nafallo> seems to work with one of my burned CDs though
[04:32] <Nafallo> but not with a blank one
[04:32] <Nafallo> anyway, odd, and I'll get a new drive ;-)
[04:35] <Seveas> Nafallo, lol :)
[04:46] <mbreit> can someone upload my passepartout-fix for me?
[04:59] <tseng> ajmitch: "wonderful" indeed
[04:59] <tseng> ajmitch: tried breezy?
[05:52] <Yagisa1> Anyone here with experience in putting a shell script "doghouse" around a badly designed program ?
[05:52] <tseng> like a chroot?
[05:52] <Yagisa1> more like a diversion
[05:53] <Yagisa1> the app in question, craps in the CWD
[05:53] <Yagisa1> I set up a doghouse to contain it to $HOME/.deng
[05:53] <Yagisa1> but I seem to have made a mistake in setting up dpkg-divert
[05:54] <Yagisa1> in my preinst
[05:55] <Yagisa1> I set up two diverts, one to move the app to .real, and one to move my .sh to the original command location
[05:56] <Yagisa1> but it errors on install, so this is a bad thing
[06:00] <Yagisa1> OK. I'll go with one divert, and symlink. See if it works better like that.
[06:26] <Nafallo> what's wrong with kazehakase?
[06:27] <ogra_ltsp> is there something wrong ?
[06:27] <ogra_ltsp> except the strange name
[06:27] <Nafallo> Build-Dep: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.8)
[06:27] <Nafallo> Build-Conflict: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.9)
[06:28] <Nafallo> the binary deps mozilla-browser and conflicts with the same versions
[06:28] <ogra_ltsp> ouch
[06:32] <Nafallo> ogra_ltsp: I take care of it though. I'll ask the user to file a bug on malone :-).
[06:32] <Nafallo> karma, here we come! :-)
[06:33] <ogra_ltsp> :)
[06:35] <highvoltage> ogra_ltsp: you're on ltsp?
[06:36] <ogra_ltsp> zup
[06:36] <ogra_ltsp> with breoken kezmap as zou can see :)
[06:37] <ogra_ltsp> tried the edubuntu daily..... but its still to broken ... you cnt easily work wround the breakage yet
[06:37] <Nafallo> ogra_ltsp: what steps shall I take when I want to book #ubuntu-meeting? ;-)
[06:37] <ogra_ltsp> just look at the Calendar... if nothing is scheduled, grab it
[06:40] <Nafallo> oki :-)
[06:41] <siretart> re
[06:41] <siretart> Does anyone know if Andrew McMillan does irc?
[06:44] <siretart> and more importantly, do DD cound as reviewer fuer REVU purposes?
[06:44] <siretart> I'd say yes, but wanted to hear a second opinion
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> anyone: ndiswrapper will not modprobe insert. Modprobe reports a fatal error. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:48] <jabra> what is the error?
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> the error is not specific
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> it simply states fatal error can not insert
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> or something real close to that
[06:49] <ogra> can you carry that to a support channel like #ubuntu please ?
[06:50] <ogra> this is one for universe development...
[06:50] <ubuntuguy> ogra: sorry, I tried there, I'm desperate.
[06:52] <ubuntuguy> several people have reported this error on a thread on the ubuntuforums.org
[06:52] <ubuntuguy> thanks anyway
[06:53] <ogra> someone should tell the people that forums are not the place to report bugs if they want them solved *sigh*
[06:54] <zul> yeah especially when the kernel-team doesnt really read the forums :)
[06:54] <Nafallo> does any team? ;-)
[06:54] <Treenaks> maybe the docteam?
[06:55] <Treenaks> speaking of the kernel team, *points at bugzilla#2129*
[06:55] <bddebian> heh
[06:57] <siretart> ok, bye folks. cu tomorrow
[06:57] <bddebian> Later siretart
[06:58] <Treenaks> ogra: there is a "Burgundavia team"?
[06:58] <bddebian> Hehe
[06:58] <Treenaks> I mean.. fanboys OK, but a whole team?
[07:00] <ogra> Nafallo, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1775 ;)
[07:03] <Nafallo> ogra: thanx :-). I assigned it to me and marked it accepted. dep-wait on eveything else I have to do (meeting in 2h and aspell transition) :-)
[07:05] <ogra> dylis in #ubuntu-bugs is very helpful ;)
[07:05] <ogra> err dilys
[07:06] <zul> what is the url for the package search?
[07:07] <bddebian>  packages.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <zul> thanks bddebian
[07:41] <Treenaks> "Configuring bicyclerepair" ??! WTF?
[07:42] <ogra> whats wron with that Treenaks ?
[07:42] <tseng> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bicyclerepair
[07:42] <Treenaks> ogra: It's a laptop, not a bicycle :)
[07:42] <Treenaks> tseng: oh cool
[07:43] <\sh> i can't use the laptop as phone
[07:43] <Treenaks> \sh: why not?
[07:43] <\sh> cause no mic jack
[07:43] <Treenaks> \sh: most laptops have builtin mics
[07:43] <\sh> only internal one
[07:43] <\sh> but's bull**** cause of my headset
[07:44] <\sh> a external mic is even better
[07:44] <ogra> hey, dont complain, at least it can fix your bike :)
[07:44] <\sh> what?
[07:46] <\sh> the other things like bluetooth can only be enabled via acpi call...and without a kernel patch nothing happens
[07:46] <\sh> the applies to suspend and hibernate
[07:46] <\sh> there i have to patch acpid
[07:47] <\sh> all patches even the NIC driver are refused from upstream
[07:47] <\sh> so I have to build my own kernel and acpid for this laptop
[07:47] <\sh> and provide some experimental install media
[07:48] <\sh> let me all document this with coreys new template
[07:48] <\sh> so..this laptop is not ubuntu compatible at all
[07:49] <\sh> ,-)
[08:30] <Tonio> hi everyone
[08:30] <Tonio> I have a little problem complying with md5sum with a package
[08:30] <Tonio> can someone give me just 2 minutes ?
[09:45] <bddebian> Heya Mez
[09:45] <\sh> Mez: did fabbione reached u?
[09:46] <Mez> er, no
[09:46] <Mez> sup?
[09:46] <\sh> Mez: somebody backported the kernel
[09:47] <Mez> what the fuck?
[09:47] <bddebian> Such language.. :-)
[09:47] <Mez> sorry..
[09:47] <bddebian> I'm kidding :
[09:47] <bddebian> )
[09:47] <Mez> \sh: unofficial?
[09:48] <\sh> Mez: he just mentioned it...and wanted to assign some bugs to the backport SPOC :)
[09:48] <Mez> \sh: the kernel shouldnt have been backported
[09:48] <\sh> Mez: thats what he said
[09:49] <Mez> Looking at this, it's only been backported for warty
[09:50] <Mez> and thats only 2.6.10
[09:50] <\sh> email him..
[09:56] <Mez> \sh - It's not backports..
[10:09] <Treenaks> \o/ -> foodfight.org/log (now all I need is syndication on planet)
[10:47] <ajmitch> morning all
[10:56] <bddebian> Morning ajmitch
[11:02] <jdong> hey, why's breezy's clamav not in sync with debian?
[11:05] <ajmitch> jdong: because it's after upstream version freeze & noone has requested an exception?
[11:06] <ogra> ajmitch, after feature freeze even .... which is more strict
[11:06] <ajmitch> true
[11:07] <ajmitch> ogra: so do you think I can get f-spot 0.1.0 into breezy?
[11:07] <ogra> i'd like to hear tsengs opinion, but if it works on amd64 i'll vote for it *g*
[11:07] <ajmitch> heh
[11:08] <ajmitch> I'll do a pkg-mono upload for debian & see how it goes
[11:18] <whiprush> that photo import from the camera for fspot
[11:18] <whiprush> need it so ... badly ...
[11:20] <ajmitch> whiprush: don't worry, we can feed your addiction..
[11:20] <whiprush> <3
[11:21] <whiprush> then next cycle we can argue about media players all day
[11:22] <StoneTable> rol
[11:23] <ajmitch> ah, f-spot_0.1.0-1_i386.deb built
[11:24] <ajmitch> bbiab
[11:29] <tseng> ogra: im cool with f-spot, after i look at it
[11:30] <ogra> oki, go for it then :)
[11:30] <ogra> to make whiprush happy ;)
[11:31] <tseng> i have been using cvs
[11:36] <tseng> nice
[11:36] <tseng> crasher
[11:36] <tseng> help - about
[11:43] <ajmitch> ah this work box is unbearably slow in the morning
[11:44] <mbreit> hi all...
[11:44] <mbreit> could somebody upload my passepartout-fix?
[11:50] <crimsun> url?
[11:50] <mbreit> http://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/passepartout_0.6-1ubuntu1.debdiff
[11:50] <mbreit> (and yes, i hate those config.sub/.guess things in a debdiff...)