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ploumWhich it is currently in UTC ?09:29
robitailledate -u09:32
robitailleTue Aug 16 07:32:19 UTC 200509:32
ploumrobitaille, thx :-)09:32
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Virtuallis 12:00 UTC after 15 mins or am I wrong? :)01:45
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ondrejmm all01:45
ajmitchhi ondrej 01:45
ploumVirtuall : it is 11h45 UTC, AFAIK01:46
Virtuallgood then01:46
Virtuall:)01:46
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Agendas: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingAgendas | Calendar: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 16 Aug 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 17 Aug 14:00 UTC: Doc Team | 23? Aug ??:?? UTC Tech Board | 24 Aug 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 25 Aug 14:00 UTC: Doc Team
=== Topic (#ubuntu-meeting): set by robitaille at Thu Aug 11 17:29:40 2005
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Nafalloyay swedes! :-)01:53
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jjesseis this the community meeting?01:55
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Seveasjjesse, it will be in 5 minutes01:56
Mitarioit's due to begin in 5 minutes :)01:56
Nafallojjesse: in 5 minuted it should be :-)01:56
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jjessei just didn't want to miss it like i did the other ones :(01:56
rbelemNafallo, ogra: hey...01:56
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Nafallorbelem: morning :-)01:56
minuxSo, I may be in here if I shut up?01:56
Seveassure01:56
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ograhey rbelem 01:56
rbelemNafallo, morning ,-)01:56
minuxSeveas: :)01:57
Nafallorbelem: ahh, nice! starting a team already :-D01:57
rbelemogra, morning :-)01:57
ogradoesnt look like we have any CC member here01:57
Mithrandirheh01:57
ograwhich is bad if new memebers shall get approval01:57
gothcat*lol*01:57
Seveasit'll be a short meeting then :)01:57
rob^which meeting is it?01:58
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SeveasCC01:58
makogreetings everyone01:58
ograrob^, CC01:58
Seveaswelcome mako01:58
ajmitchhi mako 01:58
\shhey mako01:58
rob^k01:58
Seveasthat's one - only 3 to go :)01:58
ajmitchogra: how many CC members are needed?01:58
ogra301:58
Seveasajmitch, min. 3 to get a majority01:58
rbelemNafallo, a team?01:58
ajmitchright..01:58
makoit shouldn't be hard to get the others01:58
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ondrejhi seb128, hi mako01:59
Simiraoi01:59
Seveashi Simira 01:59
Nafallorbelem: BrazilTeam, you _are_ RodrigoBelem, right? :-)01:59
SimiraI accidentally made a cc-meeting!01:59
seb128Hi ondrej01:59
rbelemNafallo, yeah ;)01:59
SeveasSimira, no it's already over01:59
NafalloSimira: hehe, *hug*01:59
gothcatSimira: hi!01:59
Seveas</just_kidding>01:59
SimiraSeveas : hey, I know the clock, you know :p01:59
rbelemNafallo, Ian Lawrence and me started the team01:59
Simirabut I can go have lunch instead...01:59
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rbelemNafallo, he gone to ubuntu conf in spain02:00
Seveas14:00 sharp now02:01
SeveasHello everybody, the CC meeting will start in a few minutes. All member candidates please prepare a 3 line intro about what you did for Ubuntu so far, what your plans are and what your vision for Ubuntu is. Everybody who has an item in the agenda (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda) also prese prepare what you want to say in a few lines and wait for your turn. Please remember to stay on-topic and to take other discussion02:01
Seveass to other channels. \end{publicserviceannouncement}02:01
rob^Seveas, is it too late now?02:01
Seveass/prese/please/ (/me gets coffee too)02:01
Seveasrob^, just wait, the meeting will start as soon as the CC members are here02:01
rob^Seveas, to nominte for membership02:02
Seveasthe agenda should no longer be changed now02:02
ograSeveas, ah, come on02:02
ograi think its ok as long as the meeting didnt start02:03
Seveastrue02:03
makoyeah, it's fine02:03
ograhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MoritzBreit02:03
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ograimpressive02:03
ajmitchmako: I hope it's decent coffee then02:03
mbreitorga: thanks! ;)02:03
ogra:)02:03
ajmitchmbreit: nice wiki page :)02:04
mbreitajmitch: thanks02:04
rob^done02:04
\shhmmm...02:05
siretarthi :)02:05
makoajmitch: a moka02:05
mvombreit: pingus? *yum*02:05
mbreitmvo: fixed gcc4 issues... so it works again in breezy02:07
mvombreit: great! /me likes pingus02:07
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Seveas(said like a true pingu)02:08
\shhmm...need a quick smoke...02:09
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Seveasdoes ho smoke such bad cigars?02:11
ograheh... the cheap ones...02:12
TreenaksSeveas: Look to the southeast.. you might see him too02:12
SeveasTreenaks, I;m looking to the east and see smoke, what are you doing? ;)02:12
Seveass/east/west/02:12
TreenaksSeveas: So that's where the barbecue smell is coming from...02:13
rob^mmm doritos and coffee02:14
Seveashmm, barbecue02:14
rob^geek staple diet02:15
Seveas16 minutes now, about the normal delay for a CC meeting :)02:17
Treenaks:P02:17
\shback02:17
Seveaswb02:17
ondrejnormal delay for _every_ meeting :)02:17
Seveasnah02:17
Seveasnormal *duration* for TB meetings :)02:17
Virtuall:02:17
ploumHow long are CC meetings generaly ? (just to plan my afternoon)02:17
rob^we normally just go, not so formal the docteam02:18
Treenaksploum: they take until the next meeting is scheduled ;)02:18
SeveasI once wanted to watch a TB meeting and was 8 minutes late. The meeting was over by then :)02:18
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Lathiathaha Seveas 02:18
Seveasploum, 2 hours02:18
Nafalloploum: lot's of stuff on the agenda, dunno :-)02:18
Seveas(at least)02:18
ploumThkx for your replies ...02:18
SeveasThat's why I always do the public service announcement, if everyone is prepared it can save a lot of time02:19
ploumSeveas, it's a good idea. I just did it and typed my intro02:19
makoogra: ok.. you pinged the others, right?02:19
ograyup, others pinged them here too02:20
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ograno reaction so far02:20
makook..02:20
makodid anyone call or sms the others?02:20
SeveasI sent out a message in #u-d to elmo/sabdfl02:20
ogranope02:20
Seveasno response02:20
makook.. so kamion is not going ot make it02:20
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Nafallomako: do we need to decide anything on the LoCo teams? I know JennyLw can't stay after 14 UTC.02:21
ajmitchI think that kamion won't be worrying about ubuntu stuff for awhile yet :)02:21
makoNafallo: locos don't need a vote02:21
makoyeah, kamion is on his honeymoon right no so asking him to show up might be a bad move02:21
rob^yes02:21
makoi'll sms the other two02:21
Seveassort-of :)02:21
\shhoneymoon?02:22
Nafallomako: we actually could process them and people start pinging/calling/mailing/kidnapping those not here? ;-)02:22
mako\sh: he got married 3 days ago02:22
hno73The SFD LoCo point I put on the agenda probably doesn't need any vote. It was just to raise awarenes of it02:22
\shmako: ok...I'll bet in 7 years and 364 days he will be available for ubuntu again *eg*02:23
Nafalloand we should have stand-ins for those on vacation in the future ;-)02:23
hno73Ithought the CC might make a statement for recomended involvement or something02:23
makoi mean, dudes02:24
makothis is the hard time for *me*02:24
Seveashno73, good point, I'm also interested in what other loco's are doing02:24
Seveasmako, 6am?02:24
\shmako: marrie :) 02:24
mako702:24
makoit's not impossible02:24
Seveasouch :)02:24
makoit's like 4am :)02:24
makoit's *not* like 4am02:24
makothat would be tough02:24
makoi smsed elmo and mark02:25
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Seveasotherwise I would not be here :)02:25
\shmako: come on...U don't have to listen right now to "we shall overcome" or "kumbayah my lord" the whole night like I do02:25
Seveas\sh, rofl!02:25
jjessegrin its easy when it is 8am :)02:25
jjessejust starting wor02:26
ploumI think I would have prefered 7AM...02:28
ploumIt's 2PM for me and it is the first sunny afternoon in two months !!!02:28
makoploum: i'm moving out in a couple weeks if you want my apt :)02:28
makoi am wearing a sweatshirt for the first time in 2.5 weeks02:28
makoit's actually cold02:28
makonot 40 degrees :)02:28
gothcatmako: can't we start with the locos soon?? I'm contactperson for the sewdich team but I have to go 14 UTC..02:28
Nafalloswedish :-)02:29
hno73Svensker ...02:29
ploummako : I just finish my hacky teleporter and I'm there02:29
Nafallohno73: ey! that's norweigan? ;-)02:29
hno73:)02:29
makook.. sabdfl is apparently home sick02:30
makoso maybe we're going to have to put this off for a week02:30
makowe're tryint to find out elmo's status02:30
SeveasWe can handle the non-vote items02:30
makoyes02:30
Nafalloouch02:30
makowe can02:30
NafalloSeveas++02:30
SeveasI'll write a wrap-up for the people who were unable to attend02:30
makogothcat: we're trying to find the council :)02:30
NafalloLoCo + LoCo SDF :-)02:30
makoSeveas: that would be great :)02:30
Nafallohmm, my ping to sabdfl will probably not me answered in a while then ;-)02:31
Seveasabout the agenda: 2 items are marked as possible agenda leftovers02:31
gothcatmako: I know but I'm geting worried :)02:31
Nafallomako: I'll talk to you after the meeting about some stuff then :-)02:31
Seveasplease check the agenda, if this is incorrect, tell me :)02:31
makook02:31
ploumThat sounds like a Hollywood movie :02:31
makoelmo is probably not going to make it02:31
makohis phone is diverting to voicemail02:31
ploumIndiana Mako and the lost Council02:31
makoso it's me02:31
NafalloLOL02:32
Seveasploum, that's going in my .signature :)02:32
Seveasok, shall we start then?02:32
gothcatyes!02:32
Nafallothat name will follow mako forever ;-)02:33
makojust hold up02:33
makosomeone at the office is talking to mark now02:33
Seveasok02:33
makobut i'm telling him it will be fine without him since we can't vote without elmo anyway02:33
makoand there's no reason to abuse his sick body unless he really wants to :)02:33
Seveaswell, mark can give a desicive vote in case of a hung jury02:33
Seveasso you+mark would be a majority 02:34
makomark will show up02:34
Seveas(I agree to the not abusing his sick body though)02:34
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makowe've never actually had a meeting with 2 people02:34
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ploummako, that's not called a meeting but "a date"02:34
Virtuall:D02:35
makoi've never been very comfortable with the 2-person CC meeting02:35
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makobut it's certainly better than the 1 person meeting02:35
Nafallomako: let sabdfl put Seveas as Kamion's standin? :-)02:35
ploumTwo is the number you shall count. Not three, not one, except before the two !02:36
ploumThe Holy Hand Council..02:36
ozamosifive is totaly of02:36
ajmitchNafallo: adding a replacement/new member would probably take at least the whole council :)02:37
ajmitchif not a vote from ubuntu members02:37
Nafalloajmitch: so a "Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator For Life" would not suffice? ;-)02:37
ajmitchNafallo: I believe he doesn't want to dictate to that degree :)02:37
Nafallohehe02:37
SeveasNafallo, it might cause another ubuntu-spatial-nautilus-like discussion/debacle :)02:37
Nafallolol02:38
ajmitchNafallo: the page says appointments are made by sabdfl, subject to confirmation by maintainer vote02:38
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Nafallooki02:39
Nafallosmurfix: that might be SwedishTeam then ;-)02:39
makosmurfix: ok.. lets move ahead since we don't need to vote on that stuff02:39
makoloco teams02:39
gothcatyes02:39
SeveasJennyLoow/RobinSonefors02:39
NafalloSweden! :-)02:39
makoalright, everyone, please state your name for the record right now02:39
makoif you haven't already02:39
SeveasDennis Kaarsemaker02:39
makoand i just missed it02:39
makoBenjamin Mako Hill02:39
ozamosiRobin Sonefors02:39
gothcatJenny Lw02:39
MitarioMichiel Sikkes02:39
TreenaksMartijn van de Streek02:40
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segfaultCarlos Eduardo Pedroza Santiviago02:40
rob^Robert Stoffers02:40
ondrejOndrej Sury02:40
mbreitMoritz Breit02:40
ajmitchAndrew Mitchell02:40
rbelemRodrigo Cesar Lopes Belem02:40
VirtuallDanko Alexeyev02:40
hno73Henrik Omma02:40
ploumLionel Dricot02:40
makoozamosi, gothcat: how are things in sweden?02:40
ograOliver Grawert02:40
SimiraKarianne Grnningster02:40
ozamosimako, sunny :P02:40
gothcatgood :)02:40
Seveastell us some more about the teams progress02:41
gothcatwe planing to have a installparty breezy02:41
Nafallomako: I'm admin and helper, so I will be part of this discussion at some point :-)02:41
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Seveasgothcat, nice, big lanparty-like installfest?02:41
Lathiat;win 2002:41
gothcatsome thing like that maby have it on dreamhack even02:42
Seveasany SFD plans?02:42
Nafallothat's what I need to talk to sabdfl/mako about ;-)02:42
gothcatin november :P02:42
Nafalloozamosi: ping? :-)02:42
ozamosiWe (or, kindofwe) have SFD-plans02:42
Seveaslike what? Give the other teams some inspiration :)02:42
TreenaksSafe For Deletion?02:42
Virtuall:)02:42
SeveasSoftware Freedom Day02:42
NafalloSFD together with a local LUG :-)02:42
NafalloI ordered 400 CDs yesterday/today :-)02:43
SeveasNafallo, that's a bit short in time - did you coordinate this with mako?02:43
makocds really should have been ordered through SFD02:43
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hno73http://softwarefreedomday.org/02:43
rob^my LUG is pushing Ubuntu on SFD02:43
Nafallowe had the first meeting yesterday, and this SFD discussion came up handy.02:44
hno73Team locations: http://majen.net/sfdworldwide/ :)02:44
ozamosimako, yes, but there were no loco nor lug before the deadline...02:44
Seveashno73, nice ubuntu logo @ sfd.org02:44
Nafallohadn't heard about it before, but those CDs will come here ASAP :-)02:44
hno73Seveas: thanks02:44
Seveasswedish team anything else you want to discuss?02:44
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ozamosiNot that I can think of?02:45
Nafallowe need a mailinglist (jdub mailed) and our domain on a linode vserver :-=)02:45
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Nafallo:-)02:45
makoNafallo: alright, you've done what you need for the former02:45
makoyou should coordinate for the latter with smurfix02:45
makosmurfix: right?02:46
ozamosimako, smurfix went away02:46
Nafallomako: oki :-)02:46
makowell, i think i'm right02:46
hno73Nafallo: email me about SFD CDs and Linode henrik@ubuntu.com02:46
makosmurfix will tell you if i'm not02:46
SeveasI thought silbs did that02:46
Nafallohno73: CDs is done. I'll mail you about Linode though :-)02:46
hno73OK, cool02:46
makoalright02:47
Seveasnext up: BrazilTeam (RodrigoBelem/IanLawrence)02:47
makoozamosi, gothcat did you guys have anything else?02:47
rbelemhi all ;)02:47
makothanks for showing up :)02:47
gothcatno02:47
ozamosimako, no02:47
makocool, well keep in touch02:47
makolet us know what worked and didn't :)02:47
gothcat:P02:47
rbelemian can't be here02:47
makorbelem: that's cool02:47
makorbelem: how is brazil?02:48
ograrbelem, thats ok.... we dont have a full council here anyway today02:48
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rbelemwell...02:48
ograso nobody can approve new members02:48
rbelemwe have a mailiig list with around  140 members02:48
rob^doh02:48
rbelemIan and me did 3 talks about ubuntu and ubuntu-br02:49
rbelemwe did some install fests02:49
Seveasrbelem, if you have english versions of slides/notes, put them on the wiki (non-engish versions may be welcome too)02:49
Seveashttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations02:50
makoversions in any language are fine02:50
rbelemSeveas, ok... it's in portuguese ;-)02:50
makorbelem: that's fine :)02:50
segfaultjust for the records... http://www.prognus.com.br/~carlos/installfest/63.html02:50
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segfaultph33r :-)02:50
makorbelem: how many people do you have participating in your loco?02:51
rbelemand we plan be a cds distribution point02:51
makorbelem: do you mean on a national scale?02:51
rbelemyeah ;-)02:52
makorbelem: at the moment, we're not really able to do that but we don't need to discuss the details of why now02:52
rbelemmark was here02:52
makorbelem: hno73 made a similar proposal not long ago and other people have suggested it for a long time but it's logitistically more work than we can handle at the moment02:52
makook02:52
makoso, brazil is a big country02:53
makohow geographically spread out are you?02:53
makoyour loco?02:53
rbelemcds have a great delay02:53
makorbelem: i understand that02:53
rbelemaround 4 moths02:53
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rbelemi live in north02:54
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rbelemi guess the cds production will be done in two cities02:54
rbelemManaus and Porto Alegre02:54
segfaultWell, i'm a member too of the Brazilian Team, and we're in the South part of Brazil, and my city is near to Paraguay and Argentina. Where we can, we spread the ubuntu philosophy.02:55
hno73rbelem: Brazil has 6 SFD teams. Have/could you get in touch with any of those? See: http://maitri.ubuntu.com/softwarefreedomday/wiki/index.php/Brasil02:55
makorbelem: we are looking at ways into speeding up the whole cd shipping process, but some solutions that seem obvious to people might be difficult02:55
makorbelem: prohibitively so. or prohibitively expensive or require more overhead that we can currently deal with02:55
Seveasmako, is there public discussion/info available on that?02:55
makoSeveas: no, but jane write a nice email to hno73 that might make a decent wiki page or edited into a faq entry even02:56
rbelemhno73, acctualy i contacted two02:56
makorbelem: right, i realize you are in the north02:56
makorbelem: i was wondering if everyone else in your team was also in the north02:56
hno73rbelem: cool, any collaboration possible?02:56
makoand if so, if there's any sort of work you're doing to involve folks from the rest of brazil02:57
rbelemrbelem, the art work guy, me, Ian, some translators, and the translator of ubuntuguide02:58
rob^maybe you would be better off translating the FAQ Guide instead of ubuntuguide02:58
rbelemhno73, yes, today we will have a metting about this02:59
Seveasrbelem, are you on the locoteam-contacts mailinglist?02:59
rob^its one in the same really, just one is maintained by us03:00
rbelemhno73, and after that i'll contatc  the others places03:00
hno73rbelem: do you know the ubuntu-bus people? http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/ubuntu/112385105403:00
rbelemSeveas, yes03:00
makorbelem: you didn't really answer me in regards to the question about people in other parts of brazil and involvement in the loco03:00
makorbelem: i'm curious if this is a de facto north brazil loco at the moment and, if so, what you guys are doing to involve people from other places in brazil03:01
rbelemmako, there is people from many states03:02
rbelemmako, the states are:03:02
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elmosorry I'm late03:03
Seveashi elmo 03:03
rbelemmako, Rio Grande do Sul, Parana, Rio de Janeiro, Amazonas, Roraima, Goias03:03
makorbelem: cool, that's great :)03:03
Nafalloelmo: hi elmo :-)03:04
makoelmo: not a problem, i've just been talking to locos03:04
makoelmo: it's just the two of us03:04
makosabdfl is sick and kamion is, well, y'know03:04
Seveasdoomed :)03:04
elmoapparently cvd is bringing the sick sabdfl a laptop03:04
makoheh :)03:04
makook03:04
Seveasrbelem, anything else you wanted to discuss?03:04
makorbelem: sounds like you guys have things under control03:04
makorbelem: anything else?03:04
rbelemmako, and i'll try to contact people from other states03:05
rbelemmako, one more thing03:05
Seveas(Next up: CzechTeam (OndejSur), please prepare)03:05
rbelemthe mailing list ubuntu-br is not on the list03:05
rbelemof mailing lists03:05
makorbelem: talk to jdub about that03:06
makoas far as i know, he's the only one that can change that still03:06
ondrejSeveas: Ondrej Sury willdo (so we don't confuse IRC list)03:06
rbelemmako, ok ;)03:06
makorbelem: thanks for your work 03:06
makoondrej: greetings03:06
ondrejhi03:06
makoondrej: how's your loco?03:06
rbelemmako, ;-)03:06
makothe page is very much in czech03:07
ondrejwell, I was asked three or four weeks ago about starting local webpages and now projects is going really well03:07
makolooks like you have a half a dozen people involved03:07
ondrejI started www.ubuntu.cz webpage, have three active translator, one person doing web design and /me03:07
=== mako nods
makoyou've translated a lot :)03:08
ondrejI am also in contact with Debian L10N team (Miroslav Kure)03:08
makogreat03:08
makoso you guys are focusing mostly on l10n stuff?03:08
Seveasondrej, contact smurfix to make ubuntu-cz.org be forwarded to ubuntu.cz03:08
ondrejwe have CDs distribution point together with CZLUG 03:08
ondrejCZLUG pays for postage, I order batch of CDs from Ubuntu and package them :-)03:09
makoondrej: nice :)03:09
ondrejI wan't to focus on L10N, QA for next release (so we don't have nasty bugs like in Hoary)...03:09
makoondrej: testing is important :)03:10
ondrejI am also promoting Ubuntu where I can...  yesterday we published GNOME 2.12 preview tour translation (www.ubuntu.cz/gnome-2.12) to help promote Breezy before it gets out.03:10
makoondrej: awesome :)03:10
Seveasah good idea, I'll do a dutch version of it 03:10
ondrejI also applied to membership in Czech OSS Aliance which helps promoting open source in CZ (and I hope it will be accepted real soon)03:11
ondrejI also do translations of USN (which seems to be attractive to people :-)03:12
makoondrej: nice, sounds like you guys are doing a lot of great work03:12
makoondrej: is there anything you need from us?03:12
ondrejmy personal primary focus is on coordinating other people to do the work, doing QA and when I have time translate stuff myself...03:13
ondrejwell, right now I am waiting for CDs to arrive...  I have about 50 people in queue asking for about 70 CDs03:13
ondrejI also run archive.ubuntu.cz mirror (maybe cz.archive.ubuntu.com would be nice?)03:14
makoondrej: email info@shipit.ubuntu.com if you want an order to be sent/resent at high priority03:14
ondrejit was already shipped at 08-0803:15
ondrejand it's 65 people now... (just checked my folder)03:15
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makoin terms of mirrors, i guess you just need to mail the address on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive03:15
makoondrej: then it should be there soon :)03:16
ondrejI think that this shows how important LoCo teams are...  and how important is to communicate with people in native language03:16
makoondrej: cool, well thanks for all of your work03:16
makois Danko around from LatvianTeam03:16
SeveasVirtuall, 03:16
makoah, Virtuall 03:16
makowe talked last meeting03:17
makois there something new that has come up?03:17
makoalright03:17
makowe'll move on03:17
Virtuall03:17
Virtuallhere03:17
Virtuall:)03:17
makooh, ok :)03:17
makoVirtuall: just in time03:17
Virtuallwe have our site finished03:17
makoVirtuall: anything new you wanted to air here?03:18
makoVirtuall: nice, url?03:18
Virtualland we have the mirror too03:18
Virtuallhttp://ubuntu-lv.org03:18
ondrejmako: there is one thing left...  I still need that day of birth for ubuntu.cz contact person at Czech NIC03:18
Virtuallnot much info yet03:18
Virtuallbut :) well03:18
Virtualli'm writing a material about what is Linux and what is Ubuntu in Latvian03:18
Virtuallnot yet finished03:18
Virtuall:)03:18
Virtuallabout SFD...03:18
makoondrej: well, ask whoever's DoB you need :)03:19
Virtuallwe are waiting for someone bigger (LAKA, Lintech etc.) action03:19
Virtuallif not, well... we're working on plan B03:19
Virtuall;)03:19
ondrejI think elmo's...  but I already sent him email...03:19
makoondrej: well, he's here now, msg him :)03:20
Seveasondrej, hmm, that might be classified information :)03:20
Virtualland the CDs... we really need them. kolcvk told me he asked you for cds a long time ago03:20
makofor the record, my birthday is december 203:20
makopresents should be sent to the address at http://mako.cc/contact.html03:20
SeveasVirtuall, cd's take a long time for everybody...03:20
ondrejSeveas: well I consider it stupid to have this kind of information in NIC database, but second option of including passport number is maybe even worse03:21
makoSeveas: i think kolvck's situation was a little different03:21
makoVirtuall: kolvck setn me a message and then logged off before i could respond03:21
makoVirtuall: i'm happy to work this out but we'll need to actually talk or he can drop me a mail03:21
Nafallohe should use e-mail :-)03:21
makoVirtuall: you can also just email info@shipit.ubuntu.com03:21
Virtuallcould you please wait a little bit03:22
makoVirtuall: i'm no longer answering most of those messages03:22
elmoI've just msg'ed ondrej my bday03:22
makoelmo: awesome :)03:22
makoVirtuall: he'll be expecting a present on that day03:22
makosorry03:22
makoondrej: ^^^03:22
Virtuallok03:22
Virtuall:)03:22
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makoelmo: hope you like dutch bottle scrapers03:23
elmomako: more than anything03:23
Seveas*falls on the floor*03:23
SeveasVirtuall, anything else?03:23
Virtuallnope03:23
Treenakselmo: we want a picture of you holding and/or using it of course03:23
SeveasTreenaks, ask virginie @ tosti03:24
makoalright, 03:24
Seveas(hmm, hat's for mako holding it btw)03:24
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makoalright then03:24
makois sabdfl actually going to show up?03:24
Seveaslast thing that does not need approval: local SFD plans03:24
makowell sure03:25
Treenaks*idly wonders how airport security reacted to the bottle scrapers*03:25
makohno73 and i are both on the SFD board03:25
makohno73 is much more involved and active than i of course03:25
NafalloSweden: http://nluug.blinkenlights.se/index.php/SFD03:25
makobut you should direct any SFD related questions to either one of us03:25
makolocos are strongly encouraged to make plans for SFD, even if they haven't already03:25
makoit would be have nice if they'd done it a while ago but, y'know :)03:25
=== Seveas is going to do an ubuntu multiplr-choice presentation
makowas there anything else specific about this item?03:26
\shis there anything happening for the SFD in germany?03:26
hno73I still have some SFD CDs, so if someone makes a really good case, I can send some03:26
mako\sh: check out http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/03:27
hno73(ie. show that they have some decent plans)03:27
SeveasSo if anybody has material for presentations, please put it on the wiki :)03:27
makoSeveas: i will be uploading three presentations probably later today03:27
Seveasmako, great!03:27
hno73\sh: http://maitri.ubuntu.com/softwarefreedomday/wiki/index.php/Germany03:27
rob^Seveas, soon..03:27
SeveasI'll upload mine as soon as it is finished03:27
makoSeveas: excellent03:28
\shhno73: yeah saw it..nothing in our area03:28
\shnothing in berlin03:28
hno73oh, and everyoneshould feel free to blog about their planning ;)03:28
mako\sh: make something in berlin :)03:28
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makoSeveas: can be fixed03:28
\shmako: helping dholbach to relax yes :) and to help me to relax ,-)03:29
TreenaksSeveas: you don't have RSS03:29
makoalright03:29
Seveasmako, not shortly, I have not created a feed yet ;)03:29
makoanything else loco related?03:29
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Nafallohmm, the LUG seems to have disappared.03:29
makogoing once.. 03:29
makogone !03:29
Nafallo#ubuntu.se probably handles this themselves03:29
makoalright03:29
Nafallomako: one question.03:29
makoNafallo: bah :)03:29
makoNafallo: whats up?03:29
Seveaswill sabdfl be here soon or do we skip the rest completely?03:30
makowe're going to need to decide that very soon03:30
elmomako: jane's calling him now03:30
Nafallomako: is it possible to get one of you kewl dudes traveling? :-)03:30
ajmitchNafallo: ubuntu world tour! :)03:30
makoNafallo: it is.. but schedule permitting of course03:30
makoNafallo: but yes, as far as i understand, sabdfl will be traveling a lot more in the near future03:31
Nafallomako: okey, what people are we talking about? this is important for most locos I believe :-)03:31
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Nafalloor would atleast be a nice move for the special day :-)03:31
ajmitchNafallo: see wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldTour, also :)03:31
makoNafallo: i've traveled a lot in the past. sabdfl can, jdub does sometimes. i'm not sure what the whole list is03:31
Nafallomako: I'll start pinging the world of high people then ;-)03:32
Nafalloalso more planning should be done by us.03:32
Nafallothis changed our plans a bit :-/03:32
=== mako nods
Nafalloless people and stuff like that03:32
makoalright03:33
makolets move on03:33
=== Nafallo nods
rbelemmako, i forgot to ask a question...03:34
ozamosiNafallo, doubt it really is less people03:34
makorbelem: yes, go ahead03:34
rbelemmako, is there a possibility to create a dns entry to each state team like am,ubuntu-br.org rs.ubuntu-br.org03:35
smurfixrbelem: yes03:35
rbelemcool ;-)03:35
makorbelem: :)03:35
smurfixjust tell me where they should go03:35
makorbelem: i think that's ideal for a place like brazil :)03:35
makoalright03:36
makoso the accessibility team is on here03:36
makothe accessibility team was one of the round of teams that were created IIRC03:36
rbelemcan each state has your linode?03:36
Seveasdoesn't that require approval mako..?03:36
makorbelem: if each team meets the criteria for a loco team, i don't see what why not03:36
hno73mako: I don't think it ws actually voted on03:37
makorbelem: so if it's just one person, no. but it if each one is a full loco team on its own, i think that's fine03:37
makohno73: i think it was approved at like the first or second CC meeting along with the laptop team03:37
hno73mako: everyone just agreed it was probably a good idea03:37
rbelemmako, or i can setup the ubuntu-br linode to host all the state team03:37
hno73mako: ok, I wasn't there at that meeting though03:38
makorbelem: you can do that no matter what. if you want seperate linode servers, i would suggset that each sub-team be a proper loco on its own and you can just be a sort of federation of locos :)03:38
makohno73: well, i've been pointing people to the accessibility team for most of a year :)03:38
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Nafallosabdfl: welcome! :-)03:38
sabdflhi all03:38
gothcatyay!03:39
Seveashi sabdfl!03:39
makohno73: i certainly thought it was a proper team :)03:39
ograhey sabdfl 03:39
rbelemmako, yeah... ;)03:39
sabdflsorry for getting the time wrong03:39
makosabdfl: not a problem03:39
sabdflwhere are we in the agenda?03:39
makosabdfl: not really in order03:39
sabdflok, fire away03:39
makosabdfl: we've done everything that doesn't require a vote03:39
Seveasaccessibility team now03:39
Nafallosabdfl: loco, sfd done :-)03:39
Seveas(after skipping members temporarily)03:39
\shjesus^H^H^H^Hsabdfl came at least :) I have to msg the pope ,-)03:39
hno73mako: ok, let's just confirm it then, or appoint a contact03:39
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makosabdfl: accesibility team, then members, then we're done03:39
makohno73: are you still happy to be the contact?03:39
sabdflok, background on the accessibility team?03:40
hno73mako: yes03:40
makosabdfl: there seems to be some confusion as to if the CC ever voted to approve the AT03:40
hno73I'd like to structure work around accessibility features a bit more. We tentatively started an accessibility team some months ago, but it never got official CC approval. I'd just like to follow that up and put myself forward as team contact03:40
makosabdfl: i certainly have been pointing people to it for the last year assuming it was a proper team03:40
mitsuhiko\sh: rofl03:41
hno73everyone agreed it was a good idea, but the vote was passed over (I think)03:41
makohno73: that sounds totally fine with me03:41
makoit has my vote03:41
sabdflhno73: +1 from me for an official accessibility team, with hno73 as contact03:41
makoelmo: ?03:41
elmosure03:42
hno73ok, thanks03:42
makohno73: you're golden03:42
makoalright03:42
makolets do members03:42
hno73I'll take it from there03:42
SeveasJonathanJesse?03:42
makohe logged off03:42
makoabout halfway through the meeting03:42
SeveasRobinSonefors then03:42
ozamosiPresent!03:42
makoozamosi: greetings03:42
ozamosiHi03:42
makoeveryone knows the routine, right?03:42
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Seveasmako, yes03:43
SeveasI did the public service announcement :)03:43
=== mako saw it
makoi just want to make sure everyone else did :)03:43
Mitariomaybe do it again ;)03:43
makowe need a couple sentances about what you've done03:43
ozamosiSo, a few lines about me...03:43
NafalloSeveas: you should have an alias for that ;-)03:43
ozamosiUntill now, I have done little more than translating (which, of course, also is important), and I've also held a lecture about Ubuntu at my school (I will hold many more this autumn). Now, I want to become one of the Swedish LoCo contacts, and to be that, I need to be a member. I think the most important thing about Ubuntu is that it is Free Software, and I want it to stay that way. I want to inform as many as possible about 03:43
ozamosithe benefits of Free Software, but, without features, no one will want it, and thus Ubuntu must also be better than anything else out there for everyone (it already is for me)03:43
makoand a couple sentances about what you plan to do and where you want to ubuntu to go and how you're going to be part of that (prepare in advance is good)03:43
SeveasNafallo, I have...03:44
sabdflmako: i've got the +editproposed page up, will mark the guys off as we go03:44
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makosabdfl: fantastic03:44
jsgotangcohi03:44
=== Seveas will do a similar thing on the wiki
sabdflSeveas: actually, could you re-write the wiki page so that it does not have a list of people in it? seems silly to have the info in two places03:45
ajmitchsabdfl: would you be able to mark me as a member at some point?03:45
Seveassabdfl, I'll do it afterwards03:45
sabdflajmitch:  done03:45
Treenakssabdfl: or me03:45
ajmitchthanks03:45
=== ondrej wonders where council can vote now or still not?
Nafallosabdfl: message about approval from me :-)03:46
Seveasondrej, yes03:46
Nafalloback to topic maybe? :-)03:46
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Seveasozamosi, you do not need to be a member to be team contact03:47
ozamosiSeveas, it says so on the loco wiki page?03:47
makoactually, the wiki page is still useful because it tracks if we've talked about someone before, why we didn't approve them, etc03:47
ploum_sorry, my wireless goes off. Did I miss something for LionelDricot ?03:47
Virtuall...yes? so I don't either? (excuses)03:47
Seveasand Ubuntu membership is generally a sign of recognition of past contributions 03:47
makobut in any case03:47
Seveasploum, no03:47
ploum_(thx)03:47
makobut lets get back to ozamosi now03:47
ondrejjust quick not: Ubuntu Czech is not officially member of OSS Aliance in Czech Republic (non-profit for promoting use of OSS in schools/government/etc.)03:48
ondrejs/not/now/03:48
makoondrej: lets please try to stay in order03:48
sabdflondrej: that's awesome, congratulations03:48
Nafalloozamosi have done a great deal of translations since he became a member and he is really active in our new LoCo :-)03:48
Nafallohe is the one that's planned most of the SFD-day for us03:48
sabdflozamosi: how have you been helping the LoCo?03:48
makoozamosi: have you been using rosetta?03:48
ozamosimako, yes03:49
gothcatozamosi is a great guy to work with, I know since we are contacts together03:49
ozamosisabdfl, well, organizing SFD, and also starting up the LoCo03:49
NafalloI would love to see him as member, not just for his new work on the loco, but for his involvement in the translationteam and for converting his sister to Ubuntu :-)03:50
ozamosiNafallo, :)03:50
ozamosiWell, her computer was too crappy for windows anyway...03:51
makoozamosi: your wiki page is not really as big as i'd like03:51
makoozamosi: there are no links to translations that you have done, for example03:52
ozamosimako, I looked at Nafallo's and gothcat's wikipages, and tried to mimic them, since I didn't know what to write there03:52
makoit's hard for me to get a good handle on the particular contributions you've made03:52
Nafallohttps://launchpad.net/people/ozamosi/+translations03:52
Nafallohttps://launchpad.net/people/ozamosi/+karma03:53
mako^^ that is one very useful thing you can put in if you've done a lot of translations03:53
ozamosiI will do that.03:53
makonice, that's a good deal of translation03:53
sabdflozamosi: +1 for membership from me, on the basis of translations and loco contributions03:54
Nafallothe best thing he is _very_ nice to work with on things :-) and got lot's of ideas :-)03:54
makoit's clear that you've done a significant amount of translations and care about the loco03:55
jsgotangconice karma03:55
=== mako votes in favor
makoelmo: ?03:55
elmoack03:55
Nafalloyay!03:55
Nafallothat's three!03:55
ozamosiWii! *dances around*03:55
SeveasWelcome aboard!03:55
Nafalloozamosi: welcome dude *huges*03:55
Nafallo:-)03:55
SeveasNext: CarlosSantiviago03:55
ozamosiNafallo, thanks!03:55
segfaultit's me03:56
segfaulthi all!03:56
makosegfault: great03:56
segfaultlet me introduce myself...03:56
segfaultHi, my name is Carlos Eduardo Pedroza Santiviago, brazilian, and i'm helping Ubuntu in some translations (to pt_BR) in Rosetta so far, and i plan to still help in the translations, and start learning the debian packaging system, so i can make some packages and help in this area too.03:56
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segfaultI started using Linux in 1997, and already used almost all Linux distributions, but when i met Ubuntu, in the beginning of 2005, i just knew it was the best distribution, because of its simplicity, ease of use, and works like a charm.03:56
segfaultI work in a company called Prognus (Pro-GNUs, heh), and we're customizing Ubuntu for the largest hydroelectric power plant in the world, Itaipu Binacional (http://www.itaipu.gov.br).03:56
segfaultI'm helping to advocate Ubuntu where i can, installing it in the so called "installfests" (http://www.psl-trinacional.org), and we're preparing too for the 10th September, for the Software Freedom Day.03:56
jsgotangcosoooo prepared03:56
segfaultsome pictures of our last installfest @ http://www.prognus.com.br/~carlos/installfest/03:57
segfault:)03:57
Seveassegfault, do you work a lot with the LoCoteam?03:57
segfaultnot as much as i would like, since my job takes much of my time03:57
rbelemSeveas, he is the guy of the south03:57
segfaultbut i try when i have some spare time03:57
segfaulthttps://launchpad.net/people/segfault/03:58
segfaulti started the brazilian portuguese team in rosetta03:58
sabdfl +1 for segfault from me03:58
sabdflthe pt_BR team is looking awesome, lots of translators, lots of activity03:58
makosegfault: are you working with rbelem ?03:58
segfaultyeah03:58
segfaultour LUG mascot: http://www.prognus.com.br/~carlos/installfest/63.html03:59
segfaulthehe03:59
segfaultmako: where structuring the ubuntu-br wiki03:59
makosegfault: great. are you involved with a sort of sub-loco for a geographical area within brazil?03:59
segfaultcreating regional groups, defining rules to be a pt_br translator, just to have a QA03:59
ograoops.. we vote03:59
makogreat :)03:59
segfaultyeah, i live near to Paraguay and Argentina03:59
makosegfault: what region?04:00
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segfaultFoz do Iguacu (City), Parana (state)04:00
makosegfault: ah, ok :)04:00
makosounds great04:00
=== mako is happy to have segfault as a member
makoelmo: ?04:00
segfaultour LUG is called PSL Trinacional, because of the three countries04:00
elmoack04:00
makoMoritzBreit04:00
makosegfault: welcome on board04:00
ograyay04:01
jsgotangcowee04:01
mbreitmako: that's me04:01
segfaulthehe, thanks guys! :)04:01
makombreit: greetings :)04:01
SeveasWelcome segfauly!04:01
Seveass/y/t04:01
Seveasmbreit, nice wiki page!04:01
mbreitthanks mako, thanks Seveas 04:01
mbreitI have created the Gnomeradio package which is in Universe now and I have fixed several packages in Universe (unmet dependencies and gcc4 issues). I am going to help the MOTU team where I can and to make some more packages of which I think they should be included in Universe.04:01
ogras/several/tons of04:02
ogra:)04:02
\shmbreit is going to be MOTU asap...;-)04:02
mbreitAnd I'll help siretart with REVU204:02
makombreit: how long have hacking on universe stuff?04:02
ajmitchwe want mbreit in the MOTU team :)04:02
ograyeah04:02
=== siretart too :)
mbreitmako: ahh... hmm.. one or two weeks now04:03
mbreitmako: i thinks it's two weeks by now04:03
makombreit: one of things we look for is sustained contributions04:03
ograthast quite a big amount of packages for 2 weeks04:03
makoi'd be more comfortable asking you to wait until the next meeting if that's alright04:03
ogramako, scroll down on the wikipage04:03
makonot that i think you're going to stop or anything :)04:03
jsgotangcowow that's a lot of DONE in the page04:04
makoright right :)04:04
ajmitchjsgotangco: yeah, that's about 2 months of MOTU work for me :)04:04
Seveas2 weeks that much...?04:04
ogramako, i think this table speaks for itself04:04
sabdflthat's a good contribution already04:04
makothe two criteria for membership are sustained and significant04:04
makoi think the significant is not arguable :)04:04
mbreitmako: i've been involved in ubuntu a bit longer than that... but not that active in fixing universe stuff04:05
makombreit: ah, ok04:05
sabdflin the past we've asked guys to come back the next time around, just to be consistent04:05
Seveasmbreit, what were your other onvolvements?04:06
makombreit: what were you doing?04:06
sabdflthough in this case, with breezy looming, it would be nice for mbreit to go straight into the MOTU04:06
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mbreitmako: for example my gnomeradio package, which is in universe now...04:06
sabdfl +1 for mbreit from me04:06
makoyeah, this is clearly significant.. that's not the issue.. i just think membership should recognize people have participated in the community for a sustained period of time as well as to a significant level :)04:06
makombreit: how long have you been working on that?04:07
\shmako: mbreit fixed a couple of really nasty issues...I'm glad to have him as member and as motu as well04:07
siretartmako: I would also be very happy to have him as motu04:07
ogra++ from here....04:07
makoas kamion pointed out, you guys have never expressed reservations about anyone :)04:07
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mbreitmako: to be honest, not more than a month, but I can't say that for sure04:07
ajmitchmako: we only recruit the best :)04:07
sabdflmako: would you be happy to defer till TB next week?04:07
makosabdfl: yes04:08
sabdfllet them confirm him for MOTU, and simultaneously membership?04:08
sabdflmbreit: how does that sound?04:08
makoeven an extra week would be ok with me04:08
mbreitsabdfl: that would be okay for me ;)04:08
makoi'm not going to vote against it04:08
sabdflok, let's do that04:08
sabdfl +1 from me, subject to TB appointment to MOTU next week04:08
makoi think just think it's good precedent to require that someone be active in the community for a month or more so we can get to know them04:08
ogramako, we need every helping hand, universe is in a bad state for release, mbreit obviously has the skills and the will 04:08
makoogra: i'm not saying he shouldn't help04:08
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ogramako, i know04:09
elmoFWIW, I agree with mako04:09
ograoki04:09
ajmitchogra: on that note, add what you think needs done to the MOTU meeting agenda for next week :)04:09
makoogra: but this is about membership and one of the *two* criteria is sustained constributions. i think we're not being fair to folks if we say that is a week or two of solid serious work04:09
ograyep, i understand that...04:10
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Seveasogra, so he will be a MOTU, but for now you will have to upload the packages for him :)04:10
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ograSeveas, yes, and all uploaders and reviewers are overworked anyway.... i thin \sh  doesnt sleep anymore at all04:11
makombreit: yeah, i'm not sleighting your work.. i'm just trying to be consistent :)04:11
mbreitmako: I understand that04:11
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makombreit: we'll talk again soon04:11
SeveasOK, so are we moving on?04:11
\shogra: I'll sleep...and I just refueled over the last weekend ,-)04:11
ogra:)04:12
makoAlexanderDomanski04:12
SeveasWhat's the status of AlexanderDomanski? He wrote a 'does not need to show up' remark in the wiki himself...04:12
makoyes04:12
jsgotangcolol04:12
makohe was here last time04:12
Seveasok04:12
makoand we told him to defer04:12
SeveasAny reason to accept without him being here?04:12
makobut he was on holiday this week so i told him if he defered he wouldn't need to show up since he already posted good information04:12
Seveasah...04:12
makoand showed up at the last meeting04:12
makowe already talked to him04:13
makoand it seemed great04:13
makobut his wiki page was thin04:13
Seveasit contains info now04:13
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SeveasBut i recall having seen that info before04:13
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Seveasjjesse, wb, remind us to treat your membership application at the end of the meeting04:14
jjessethanks seveas sorry i had to breifly split to solve a work crisis04:15
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makoalexander seems very active in the germany community04:15
makohas done a huge deal of support and documentation in german04:15
Seveasany ubuntu-de people here to vouch?04:15
makowell, you can read his 900+ posts in user support forums :)04:16
Seveas*g*04:16
mitsuhikoSeveas: me04:16
mitsuhikojep. alexander is very active in the german community04:16
Seveasfor a month or more already?04:16
sabdfl +1 from on the basis of activity in the support forums04:16
sabdfls/form/from me/04:16
ogramitsuhiko, community == forums ??04:17
Seveassabdfl, E: no match :)04:17
mitsuhikoogra: ubuntuusers.de04:17
ograso yes...04:17
mitsuhikois a forum :)04:17
makogerman forums04:17
makohe's also done some hacking, advocacy, etc04:17
ograyup, just wanted to know...04:17
makohe's been very responsive to me in terms of documenting his contributions..04:17
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makoi'm happy approving him for membership04:18
SeveasNot that I have a vote, but +1 from me based on this04:18
makoelmo: ?04:18
makoploum: you're up?04:18
ploumyep :-)04:18
makolets charge ahead04:18
ploumHello everybody04:19
ploumI'm a 24 years old student in computer engineering and artificial intelligence, fanatic of astronomy. I'm former president of LouvainLiNux, a belgian LUG and I'm very strong free software advocate. And now the 3-liners as Seveas asked for :04:19
elmoack04:19
ploumSo far, involved in Ubuntu since more than one year (yes, before the release), I've done strong Ubuntu advocacy, beta testing, bug reporting, bug triaging, writing a lot of french documentation and was very active to start the ubuntu-fr community. I'm currently co-author of a book about Ubuntu (with a preface from Mark) for a well known french editor, planned for end october.04:19
ploumI want to get more involved in promoting Ubuntu (also in real world), in creating a Belgian community and to continue writing more and more documentation and promotional text. I have also some experience in usability (people with disabilities, old people, ...) and want to take part in an Usability Ubuntu Team04:19
ploumI see Ubuntu as the perfect solution I've ever dreamed in the free software world and want to spread it using tools traditionnaly only used by proprietary world (marketing, ..) but also with new ideas not created yet.04:19
ploumMy wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ploum04:19
makocool, adomnaski's good for membership04:19
jsgotangconice04:19
ploum(don't think I'm copy/pasting, I type very quickly !)04:20
jsgotangcowow04:20
ploum;-)04:20
Mitariohaha :)04:20
makosounds great :)04:20
Seveasploum, Ubuntu books sounds cool04:20
ograbelgian beer speeds up ?04:20
Seveasogra, ask mako about kwak :)04:20
ograheh04:20
ploumogra, I will be happy to buy belgian beer to every Ubuntu member that come here :-)04:21
jsgotangcowe have that in log folks :)04:21
Seveasyeah04:21
Seveasploum, impressive wiki page04:21
\shhmmm...belgium is not far away from here..ogra..up for a beer in bruxelles? ,-)04:22
ograploum, ok, i'll take your word on it, next fosdem ;)04:22
hno73ploum: also did good work on TheOpenCD some time ago (which now forms the basis for the Ubuntu Win-FOSS component, so indirectly he's been involved over 2 years ;p )04:22
makogood to know that there is a serious long-term involvement there04:22
ploumLet's go for fosdem :-)04:22
makowell, i'm impressed by the work on the ubuntu book if nothing else :)04:23
makoand i am also impressed by ther other stuff as well 04:23
\shploum: shtoomvoip?04:24
makoand appreciate the long-term committement to free software in other related areas04:24
ploum\sh, I just reported a bug today04:24
makoand have seen ploum around for a very long time in this community04:24
ploumnothing04:24
makoso i'm happy approving him for membership04:24
ograyay, shtoom !04:24
ploumthank you indiana ... mako04:24
\shploum: well...I just took over thoms place in this project...wanna help?04:24
ogra+1 for the beer at fosdem ;)04:24
jsgotangcoshtoom lives again?04:24
Seveassabdfl, elmo ?04:25
ograand +1 for ploum04:25
sabdflguys i have to step afk for a while04:25
makosabdfl: want to wweigh in on ploum before you go?04:25
\shjsgotangco: deferred for breezy+104:25
makoelmo: ?04:25
elmoack04:25
makook, how do we want to do this04:26
Seveasdefer the rest?04:26
Mitario:(04:26
makogive me a second04:26
Seveasok04:26
rob^:(04:26
JaneWjsgotangco: sadly not04:27
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makoVirtuall: ok, you should try to build up your wiki page04:28
makoVirtuall: it's a bit lacking in details and links to your contributions04:28
Virtuallhhm04:28
makoVirtuall: you should do that and we'll revisit it next time04:28
makoif you have questions on how to do that, you should work with me outside of the meeting in the next week or two04:29
Virtuallk... see you next meeting then :) or maybe earlier04:29
makorob^: you could probably deal with a little more info and links too :)04:29
makoVirtuall: yes04:29
rob^mako, yes04:30
makoMitario: i think we can handle you at the TB meeting next week04:30
Mitariomako, okay04:30
makoMitario: since you are going for a much more technical and eventually maintainership) sort of thin, that seems fine04:30
makoMitario: your wiki page looks good04:30
Mitariomako, yeah true04:30
Mitariook thanks :)04:30
Mitariomako, do I need to put myself on a list somewhere for the TB meeting?04:31
makothat leaves rbelem and ondrej04:31
rob^mako, I added my three-liner04:31
makoMitario: put it on the tech board agenda (noted that it's also for CC membership)04:31
makorob^: cool, links to stuff you've done too04:31
Seveasmako and jjesse 04:31
makoright and jjesse, thanks04:31
Seveas(who needs to work on his wiki page)04:31
rob^mako, they are there now04:31
jjesse yes?04:31
ploumso when are we delayed ?04:32
Seveasdidn't ploum get accepted?04:32
Mitariomako, umm, in MaintainerCandidates or just on the agenda?04:32
jjessejust a short intro about myself right?04:33
makoMitario: you can put yourselfs as a maintainercandidate if you think you're ready for that but also note that you need CC papproval at that meeting04:33
Seveasjjesse, not now04:33
Mitariomako, ok thanks :)04:33
makojjesse: probably not necessary, our council left04:33
Seveasplease work on your wikipage, so it contains all info about you04:33
jjessebummer :(04:33
makoi'm reading through the wiki pages and giving people criticism04:33
Seveasand come back in 2 weeks please04:33
jjessesure thing04:33
makojjesse: in your case, i'm not sure it really matters becauuse your wiki page is pretty think04:34
makothin even04:34
makojjesse: you should have link and in depth descriptions that demonstrate both a sustained and a significant contribution04:34
makoyou've got enough data there that i am sure it exists04:34
makobut not enough so that i can see or verify it04:34
makoyou need both04:34
ploumSeveas, well I'm not sure04:34
Seveasploum, me neither04:34
makoploum: you'll be fine04:34
jjesseok i will work on more information thank you for the criticism mako04:34
Seveasploum, in that case: congratz, welcome aboard!04:35
makojjesse: right, if you do that, it will be totally uncontroversial next week04:35
makoploum: well, unless sabdfl says otherwise, you'll be fine04:35
makoand i find that very unikely04:35
ploumSeveas and mako, thank you 04:35
rob^its going to be a bit hard for me04:35
ploumIt's really great for me :-)04:35
Seveasploum, to be sure, come back next CC meeting04:35
rob^due to the nature of my work, I can't give out some of the info04:35
makorbelem, and ondrej:04:35
jsgotangcorob^: why not? you've made a lot of contributions to dcoteam04:35
makorbelem, and ondrej: are either of you still around?04:36
ploumSeveas, when is it ?04:36
Seveasploum, in 2 weeks04:36
rbelemmako, yep ;-)04:36
ondrejhere04:36
rob^jsgotangco, yes, that I can put04:36
makorob^: why not?04:36
jsgotangcorob^: well you don't have to say that, just  your contrib04:36
rob^ok04:36
jsgotangcomako: he works in a sensitive position04:36
makook guys.. your pages look pretty good.. more links are better but i think you'll be fine.. we'll do you first next time :)04:36
makohmm04:36
ondrejjust updated my page with info from my three liner...04:36
Seveasmako, I will update the wikipage later today and add some instructions for members-to-be04:37
ploumSeveas, I have exams this week but well, we will see :-)  Thank you for advices and support today04:37
Seveasploum, good luck!04:37
ondrejwhat's the next schedule for CC meeting?04:38
Seveasmako, next meeting Aug 30 20:00?04:38
makojsgotangco, rob^: talked to me about it04:38
rbelemmako, oki ,-)04:38
makosorry we didn't get to everyone today04:38
makois there any other business?04:38
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jsgotangcowe crash?04:38
rob^mako, now?04:38
makorob^: or later04:38
ondrejjust quick question...  LoCo team were approved?04:38
makoprivately is fine04:38
Seveasondrej, no approval needed04:38
makoondrej: don't need to be approved..04:39
makoondrej: but yes :)04:39
makoif smurfix says they're good, they're good04:39
NafalloSeveas: not even smurfix-approval?04:39
ploummako, must I send you something GPG-signed ?04:39
Seveasploum, no04:39
Seveasfollow the instructions in launchpad04:39
makothere's a new launchpad based system now04:39
Seveasyou will have to uploda it there04:39
segfaultWhich are the next steps for the approved members?04:39
makoi haven't actually entirely figured it out yet :)04:39
jsgotangcothe launchpad system rocks04:39
ograoh, its already working ? 04:39
NafalloI've always interpreted the wiki as smurfix-approval needed and cc-announcement as a nice gesture :-)04:39
jsgotangcoogra: it does04:39
Seveassegfault, upload a CoC to launchpad04:39
ograyay04:40
makoNafallo: that's right04:40
smurfixNafallo: true04:40
ploummy launchpad page is broken :-(04:40
jsgotangcoeven supermirror on it works04:40
segfaultalready there :)04:40
ondrejeveryone launchpad page is broken...04:40
Seveassegfault, then you're set04:40
Nafalloyay! I'm the infomaniac ;-)04:40
ajmitchjsgotangco: really? I didn't see any supermirror stuff on launchpad recently04:40
jsgotangcooh04:40
Seveasnext datetime...?04:40
segfaultnice!04:40
jsgotangcoajmitch: i get segfault when doing a baz archive-mirror though04:40
segfaultthat's not my fault :P04:41
smurfixthis time through, locos have been adding themselves to the CC agenda without my involvement, which is OK by me -- it's as good an announcement of "I think we're ready to be official" as any04:41
Nafallosmurfix: you were on VAC ;-)04:42
Seveasmako..?04:42
makoSeveas: whats up?04:42
Nafallofigured we would do approval on the CC because of that :-)04:42
Seveasnext datetime...? <--04:42
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makoah04:42
smurfixNafallo: I've been back long enough though ;-)04:42
mako22UTC two weeks from today04:42
Seveasok04:42
jsgotangcoouch 22 again04:42
mitsuhikohi Yann204:42
jsgotangco:)04:42
makono04:43
makolets do it a little earlier04:43
mako2004:43
smurfixmako: +104:43
jsgotangconoooo04:43
Nafallosmurfix: well, I've talked to you, didn't I? :-)04:43
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rob^20 sound good to me04:43
makojsgotangco: you don't have to be here dude :)04:43
SeveasSee you all in 2 weeks then04:43
makojsgotangco: this is why we move it04:43
makojsgotangco: because not everyone can be at all of them :)04:43
jsgotangcoi like CC meetings even if its 4am04:43
makojsgotangco: we move it specifically so that you *don't* have to punish yourself 04:43
makojsgotangco: dude, if it was at 4am, *i* would consider not making it :)04:44
jsgotangcoheh04:44
jsgotangcoit sucks to be the only one in this timezone at the moment04:44
Nafallomeeting done? :-)04:44
ondrejsmurfix: maybe you should remove "AddYourSelfHere" from wiki page... :-)04:44
jsgotangcoi rarely get to attend TB at all04:44
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Seveasmeeting is over :)04:45
ajmitchjsgotangco: don't worry, I don't think I've seen a TB meeting for 2 months or more :)04:45
smurfixondrej: Actually, this way works reasonably well, and it's less work for me, so it'll stay ;-)04:46
makoSeveas: thanks :)04:46
Seveasmako, have a flessenlikker :)04:46
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makoSeveas: good call04:46
ondrejmako: ubuntu.cz is entirely in Canonical hands...  only thing left is that Canonical has to pay the bill :-)04:46
makoi'm considering going back to sleep04:46
Seveassleep well04:46
jsgotangcoi should prepare to sleep ;)04:47
ajmitchjsgotangco: yeah, ~3AM here now :)04:47
jsgotangcochrist i totally forgot ajmitch is in dunedin :)04:48
ajmitchyeah, you going to be here at LCA in jan?04:48
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jsgotangcoill prepare for it04:49
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ajmitchgreat :)04:49
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nmsa_KLI missied it, I am looking for the MOM ...; have a good day !06:21
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ogra__nmsa_KL, MOM ?06:41
nmsa_KLminutes of meeting06:41
ogra__heh... ok06:42
ogra__nmsa_KL,  http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/06:42
ogra__MOM == merge o matic btw :)06:42
ogra__its a tool we use06:42
nmsa_KLso it's not public ?06:44
nmsa_KLaaa, sorry :)06:45
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