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You should have received the e-mail. === toomuchcoffee [n=toomuchc@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [12:10] crimsun: thanks!! === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable116.61-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] Lathiat : what is going on with gnunet and gnome-chemistry-utils, have they been fixed? === jamessan|laptop [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === speel [n=speel@cpe-24-90-224-86.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-066.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dabaR [n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-183-33.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] if anyone is an op on #ubuntu, please come and devoice this one guy that is just totally annoying with his public away every 5 minutes. === dabaR [n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-183-33.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hey jsgotangco [03:32] how's it going? [03:33] hey [03:33] not bad just checking the lists at the moment [03:33] i should get my laptop today [03:33] great [03:33] I haven't heard if mine has even been sent yet [03:34] robitaille also gets a dell but no word on shipment either [03:34] ah so you know what others are getting? [03:35] only some people [03:35] right [03:35] how's the docteam going? [03:36] i've been busy on edubuntu lately, mgalvin is helping out on the packaging [03:36] we could probably ship at least 2 references [03:36] then plan ahead instead of cramming midway === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] hey mgalvin [03:36] speak of the devil [03:36] heh [03:36] here is our packager [03:37] for a moment I thought you just invited him in :) [03:37] he's been working with enrico [03:37] ok [03:37] hey ajmitch [03:38] hey all [03:38] mwahahaha [03:38] I'll look forward to some good docs for breezy then :) [03:39] yeah we'll eventually move into baz later on [03:39] I've started using bazaar-ng, which is looking a lot nicer to use [03:39] yea enrico and i went over the ubuntu-docs package and it works, only thing left is finial decisions on what docs to include and make sure the install location is ok with the dev team [03:39] ie, less than 100 commands :) [03:40] bazaar-ng is still missing a few things, but is certainly good enough for real work [03:41] baz-ng is going to be baz 2.0 right? [03:43] yep [03:44] I'm glad there are daily snapshot debs available === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] hi all [04:13] I got a question about debian vs ubuntu repository [04:13] ok [04:13] afaik when I want to prepare some package for ubuntu [04:14] then if there already is simmilar package for debian [04:14] similar, as in the same software? [04:14] then I should refer to this package [04:14] yes [04:14] yes, that is generally how we work [04:15] somepackage-1.0-1.deb [04:15] there are some exceptions, but we try to minimise the changes from debian [04:15] and then I should name my package somepackage-1.0-1ubuntu1.deb [04:15] right? === kol [n=kol@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [04:15] marcin: only if you're making changes to that debian package with version 1.0-1 [04:15] which I assume is what you're asking about [04:16] ajmitch: not exactly [04:16] ajmitch: in fact my question is - to what debian repository I should refer to? [04:16] we work off unstable === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] ajmitch: ok [04:18] marcin: what package is it, and what changes are you wanting to make? [04:18] hey siretart [04:18] ajmitch: well currently it is color-theme for emacs [04:18] ajmitch: color-theme.el [04:19] right [04:19] ajmitch: and there is no such package in debian (afaik) === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] ajmitch: but I found this package in http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool [04:20] ah, mentors.debian.net is quite unofficial [04:20] and can't be called 'debian' in that sense [04:20] I'd say that the package is badly named there, too [04:20] and this is why I ask here [04:20] ok, then I'd like to request clamav 0.86.2's inclusion in Breezy -- 0.86.1 will not detect a couple sigs because of an old engine... [04:21] ajmitch: why? [04:21] because it doesn't mention emacs at all - greater chance for namespace collision [04:22] jdong: sure, I'll request a sync from elmo [04:22] jdong: I think this is a reasonable package for UVF breaking, due to being so volatile [04:23] ajmitch: well that's another question [04:23] ah, 0.86.2 also fixes security holes.. [04:24] ajmitch: is there any 'official' naming convention for emacs packages? [04:24] will have to make sure that the data & other reverse depends aren't adversely affected [04:24] marcin: I don't know, as I'm not involved in emacs packaging [04:24] I'd assume there'd be at least some standard [04:25] ajmitch: an easy way is to name every emacs related package with 'emacs' prefix [04:25] ajmitch: but currently it doesn't work in this way in ubuntu [04:26] ubuntu packages are just debian packages, I don't think there's anything new we've introduced [04:26] ajmitch: we got jde, css-mode, gnus etc. [04:26] yep [04:27] ajmitch: so this is why color-theme is not something unusual [04:27] ajmitch: in fact emacs-color-theme could be [04:27] color-theme-el wouldn't be, afaik [04:29] ajmitch: well I really don't like this convention at all [04:29] the ubuntu wiki says that hoary can "automagically" detect the best download mirror and use it, anyone know if hoary has that capability? [04:32] ajmitch: so, if I want to prepare color-theme package for ubuntu and this package is not available in debian unstable [04:33] ajmitch: then how should I name this package? [04:33] ajmitch: current version number is 6.5.5 [04:34] ajmitch: color-theme_6.5.5-1ubuntu0.all.deb ? [04:34] ajmitch: color-theme-el_6.5.5-1ubuntu0.all.deb? === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-116-178.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] 0ubuntu1, not 1ubunt0 [04:44] ajmitch: ok [04:44] ajmitch: and what about name? [04:44] ajmitch: emacs-color-theme? color-theme? color-theme-el? [04:47] I don't know === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax7-101.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] I'd suggest using the -el suffix, just because that is what I've seen other packages use [04:49] does revu send emails to the MOTU's when uploads are made? [04:49] ajmitch: ehh ok but it sucks extremely [04:50] ajmitch: almost every other package which belongs to some 'family' uses prefix instead of suffix [04:51] ajmitch: like python, zope, gnome, php, perl etc. [04:57] most perl libs use a suffix [04:57] as do mono libs [04:59] at any rate, i just uploaded a gperfection2 icon theme package in case anyone can take a peek at it (and tell me how bad it is ;)) [05:00] ajmitch: most perl libs - because they are libs - so they have names like libsomething-something-perl === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] I honestly don't see why we're debating debian's naming policy for something that I'm not involved in [05:04] well right but question is if we could drop debian policy [05:05] (in fact I cannot see any policy in these package names - jsut mess and chaos but anyway) [05:05] and we could just use someting different for ubuntu [05:05] i dont think that's universe's job [05:07] jsgotangco: so if not here then where can I ask about this? [05:08] marcin, mdz is your best shot [05:08] marcin: forking packaging from debian can cause unimagineable pain in the long run for the MOTUs [05:09] both in terms of work required & future cooperation with debian [05:09] jsgotangco: mdz? === popey [n=popey@dsl-80-46-101-238.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] mdz will most likely flat out say no, not adhearing to the debian policy is not an option [05:10] of course [05:10] for the reasons I listed, mainly [05:10] if such was in our roadmap, it would have been done early on [05:11] yea, sorry for butting in half way through [05:12] jsgotangco: I'm not so sure - I don't think that emacs packages are in ubuntu road map at all [05:13] and I agree that these packages could conflict with debian packages [05:13] but it in debian there is an incredible mess than why just copy this mess to ubuntu? [05:15] because someone would have to clean up & maintain that mess in ubuntu [05:15] marcin, ubuntu basically integrates what is currently available, if there is a mess in debian, its best be worked upstream [05:15] that is, being responsible for all the bug reports, upstream updates, etc [05:16] so you just need more 'manpower' ? [05:17] sure, ubuntu 'could' fork everything that debian does, given enough manpower [05:17] bit it's also a matter of whether we should [05:18] right but short question - why not? === ajmitch sighs [05:24] im going to lunch :) [05:24] :) [05:24] ok, I'll try & get some work done :) [05:25] ok, not I need to go to bed but anyway - lack of 'menpower' is not real reason for me [05:26] marcin, if you think what you believe is the right track, then there is no one stopping you from advocating it, its best that you get involved [05:26] brb [05:40] ah, the downside of bzr daily snapshots - they sometimes break :) === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] hi jbailey [05:52] Heya Andrew === ajmitch has just been playing with bzr [05:53] running into a few very odd problems :) [05:53] ajmitch: The #bzr channel is probably the best place to talk about it. [05:54] yeah, I've been trying to narrow down to a testcase, but no joy yet [05:54] Ugh. =( [05:55] :0:> ~/bin/bzr merge ../../debian/gnue-forms-0.5.12/ [05:55] bzr: warning: Conflict in newly added file /mnt/new-home/ajmitch/debian/gnue/tmp/integration/gnue-forms-0.5.12/debian/rules [05:55] bzr: [Errno 21] Is a directory [05:55] that sort of exception is *really* weird [05:55] it's just a file.read() call which is failing :( === ajmitch will play with it some more tomorrow === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-116-178.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:35] Treenaks, nah there is just me, but I am pretty much everywhere [06:42] Burgundavia: ok :) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === toomuchcoffee [n=toomuchc@63.241.72.156] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === aisipos [n=aisipos@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] morning [08:02] Burgundavia: around? [08:04] siretart, yes [08:07] Burgundavia: is it possible to add inter wiki to ubuntu's wiki? or is this only available for administrators? [08:07] just curious [08:07] siretart, I have no idea. best to ask hendrik [08:08] ok [08:08] isn't it already there? [08:08] Burgundavia: I just saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Template - just one remark [08:08] i dont think henrik has admin rights to the moin wiki either [08:08] Burgundavia: wouldn't it be better to create for each distribution/release such a report in an own page? [08:08] the template seems to be intended as a general summary [08:10] siretart, mjg59 and myself discussed it. We only need the current stable and a rolling report for the current Colony/Array/whatever Breezy+1 is [08:10] thus we only need one page [08:10] Burgundavia: ah, so you expect 2 pages. Stable and rolling? [08:10] siretart, no [08:11] a single page, with both on it [08:11] ah. I see. will do [08:11] siretart, cheers. #ubuntu-laptop for further discussin [08:11] right. sorry [08:11] I'm not used to that channel yet *g* [08:11] yes === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-114-154.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=mitsuhik@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] morning === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] G'day === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-76-217-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax7-159.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] why cdbs doesn't update cleanly config.{guess,sub} files ? [10:01] It bloats my diff.gz file with diff between upstream tarball and system config.{sub,guess} files :/ === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] <\sh> cdbs is evil === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart looks at http://bugs.debian.org/cdbs [10:21] jupp === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] \sh: upstream tarball sometimes too ;) [10:30] especialy when they have already a "home-made" debian layout [10:37] pef: upstreams often have no clue of packaging [10:37] pef: if they had, they would most probably don't include debian/* into upstream tarball [10:39] siretart: it's not very easy (for non-developer) to fill an bts for requesting packaging [10:41] pef: it consists mainly writing an email to submit@bugs.debian.org. format of this email is described on http://bugs.debian.org, espc. the part about wnpp [10:41] but well, I see your point [10:42] when authors are bored with "and debian package ?" they put a primitiv debian layout into their tarball, and voil [10:42] I saw this on some sourceforge forums === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-141.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DC22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] ogra, "Team Burgundavia" indeed [11:05] hehe :) [11:05] you work like 3 at least [11:05] on Wednesday I start work [11:05] thus I will have less time === mbreit [n=mo@p548773FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] hi all [11:16] siretart: how did you get a directory like http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/kvpnc-0508131655/kvpnc-0.7.2/debian/ from the upload ? [11:17] pef: that's after it was built, I believe? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] wb jsgotangco [11:18] hi mbreit [11:18] hi ajmitch [11:18] thanks [11:18] hmm [11:18] desktop froze [11:19] pef: err, I 'just' do a dpkg-source -x *.dsc after an upload [11:19] siretart: ah, so the stamp-* files are a mistake then? :) [11:20] err, sorry? [11:20] stamp-autotools-files & stamp-makefile-build don't appear to be in the original diff [11:21] I could be quite mistaken.. [11:21] ajmitch: that because the were in the .orig.tar.gz [11:21] pef: was this one that had an existing debian/ directory? [11:21] oh evil [11:21] http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/kvpnc-0508161105/kvpnc-0.7.2/debian/ doesnt show them anymore, because orig.tar.gz was repackages [11:21] which is right in this case, I think [11:22] ok === jdong [n=jdong@d149-67-171-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mambo__ [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] ajmitch: yes === kezz [n=kezz@user-561.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] because of dh_make bug with bzip2 archives #12618, should I use get-orig-source target to recreate a gzipped tarball, or simply doing this by hand ? === Nikopol [n=mambo@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pete [n=omega@ua-83-227-176-123.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c167094.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=mitsuhik@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] does a call to dh_desktop is really usefull when there are no MimeType registered in .desktop file ? === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] <\sh> ogra: ping === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200217136134.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] \sh, pong [01:47] hey ogra :) [01:47] did everybody notice the CC meeting starts in 15min [01:47] re [01:47] yes [01:47] <\sh> argl [01:47] <\sh> no [01:47] <\sh> ,-) === ajmitch is there [01:47] <\sh> ogra: i got mail from infinito about gcfilms [01:47] i just recognized it myself [01:48] \sh: do you have the wiki name describing NetworkInstalls? [01:48] <\sh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet [01:48] is there anything we need be available for the meeting? [01:48] <\sh> ogra: do we get it synced into breezy for universe even after feature freeze? [01:48] ah, mbreit on member candidates [01:49] \sh: ah, thanks [01:49] \sh, synced from ? === warthylog [n=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | First priority: MERGING , deadline was 2005-07-21 buglist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | http://wiki.debian.net/?EtchSlang2upgrade | HAPPY REVIEW DAY! :) === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Thu Jul 28 07:47:46 2005 [01:49] (ajmitch/#ubuntu-motu) hmm [01:50] (\sh/#ubuntu-motu) ogra: debian...i mean, i have to check it again if it's fixed in debian..but I don't want to have another package to care for right now [01:50] (ajmitch/#ubuntu-motu) reminds me that I need to ask elmo to sync clamav [01:50] (ajmitch/#ubuntu-motu) & f-spot once I get it tested ;) [01:51] sigh, I'd really like to break the freeze for other packages as well, if possible :) [01:52] <\sh> actually I want to spend the time to polish the other packages then to sync new stuff in [01:52] \sh: all the packages I want are updates (including upstream fixes) [01:52] nothing NEW [02:04] mbreit: how many of those still need looked at/uploaded? [02:04] ajmitch: none atm.... [02:05] ok, great === ajmitch remembers - please start putting stuff on the agenda for next weeks MOTU meeting === ajmitch is glad that MOTU meetings start far quicker than CC meetings :) [02:29] ajmitch: ;-) [02:31] how should I named a newly packaged apps like foo-0.2 ? foo-0.2-0ubuntu1 ? [02:32] pef: yep [02:32] thanks ! [02:32] well you put 0.2-0ubuntu1 in the changelog anyway :) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] in debian/control, if I use copyrighted names, like Windows or neroBurningRom, should I add (c) or something ? [02:45] they're registered trademarks, not copyrighted [02:45] so I _think_ it'd either be (R) or (TM) [02:45] oups [02:45] I would avoid them if possible, because I don't understand the legal consequences either [02:45] but I haven't seen them used [02:45] do as siretart says ;) [02:47] is for registered marks. [02:47] it doesn't really matter, but just avoid them, probably no use in mentioning them [02:47] ah. utf-8 :) [02:48] siretart: I'm packaging a tool wich converts a proprietary format (cdrom image files) to ISO format, the program name is CloneCD [02:51] pef: why not write '.. converts images in .foo format (used by some comercial sofware) into .iso images...' [02:51] what format is that? is that somewhat common? [02:53] siretart: proprietary format like .doc [02:54] pef: everyone knows .doc format. we are beeing terrorisated very often with that [02:54] me too :) [02:55] but if I don't include the apps'name into description, a personn who seeks for "clonecd" will not find anything :/ [02:56] but someone whoi searches for cloning CDs will find it if you write "an app for cloning CDs" [02:59] pef: they will find it when they search for the filename extension [03:00] pef: and when they have been given a hint in the forum, of course [03:00] ogra: it's just a format converter tool [03:00] pef, you talked about clonecd [03:02] ogra: the output format of clonecd ;) === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax7-226.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kezz [n=kezz@user-561.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko___@dsl-084-059-093-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] hi all === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-76-217-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1141.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] mgalvin, hi ;-) [03:44] hi rbelem === HiddenWolf [n=hc_brugm@213-73-250-180.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] Hey guys [03:50] HiddenWolf: hey, I thought you couldn't code? [03:50] ;) [03:51] Treenaks, I can't [03:51] Yet [03:51] hi HiddenWolf [03:51] Treenaks: what, you need to be able to code to be in here? :) [03:52] Treenaks, but I'm getting fed up with myself, I'd like to fix those stupid bugs myself, really. :P [03:52] ajmitch: no, but we had a discussion about it yesterday in #-nl :) [03:52] HiddenWolf: first, upgrade to breezy.. :) [03:52] HiddenWolf: second, ... [03:52] HiddenWolf: third, profit! [03:53] heh [03:53] Treenaks: step 2 is pull hair out ;) [03:53] Treenaks, you are aware that my pc is currently without an harddrive, right? ;) [03:53] ajmitch: It is? [03:53] oh, breezy on usb stick! there's an opportunity for you, HiddenWolf ;) [03:54] ajmitch, I'm hoping to have a new drive by the time I drag my tanned ass back to Holland from Rome. ;) [03:54] thatd be cool [03:54] mm, I'd love to visit Rome some day === Treenaks suggests a conference in Rome :) [03:55] my flatmate got to go to rome last year on only a day or two's notice, for a few weeks :) [03:56] yes, Rome is awesome [03:56] My next destination is Berlin === HiddenWolf blinks [03:57] HiddenWolf: ? [03:57] furthest I've managed to get so far is australia [03:57] is this a redirect to #ubuntu-travel? ;) [03:57] return visit to Rome aside, I'd love to go to Belgium [03:57] ajmitch: can't get much further from here :) === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] Treenaks: well I'm in NZ, so Australia is fairly close :) [03:57] <\sh> Treenaks: I will send you my mobile number..so we can catch up in berlin...looks like I will sleep at dholbachs place [03:57] Treenaks, sabdfl managed. ;) [03:57] HiddenWolf: yup. should I put you in contact with my travel agent? ;) [03:58] HiddenWolf: sure, suggest Rome for the next ubuntu conference :) [03:58] \sh: PM it :) I'll add you to my phone immediately [03:58] hey haxors [03:58] morning kiko [03:58] what's going on up north? [03:59] its hot and stuff === ogra looks north [03:59] jamessan, I'm a poor student. :) [03:59] yeah, I was just joking [03:59] kiko, looks like every day there [03:59] jamessan, I figured. :) [04:00] no smoke signs? ;) === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] siretart, not since \sh finished the cigarette [04:00] hehe [04:01] <\sh> yes...I just saw a shocked treenaks ,-) [04:01] hi kiko, tseng [04:09] ajmitch, I'd happily suggest it, but I'm nobody. :P [04:09] when is the next review day ? [04:09] 18th [04:09] all timezones [04:10] ajmitch: whee @ 36-hour days :) [04:10] only 36? :) [04:10] ajmitch: 24 + 12 [04:11] thanks [04:11] Treenaks: NZ is UTC+12, some pacific islands are UTC-12, iirc [04:12] ajmitch: yes (like the islands I work for, .tk :)) [04:12] so NZ can be 24 hours ahead of them (maybe 23) [04:12] already the 17th here :) [04:13] so I'll start my review day in < 24 hours [04:13] have to go, bye ! [04:13] bye pef [04:13] ajmitch: hm yes [04:13] ajmitch: 48-hour days.. don't tell my boss [04:13] haha [04:15] is sistpoty a member yet? [04:15] is there anyone proposed on this list: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers that is already a member? [04:22] siretart: ping ^ [04:22] Nafallo: whats up? [04:22] siretart: above :-) is sistpoty ubuntu member? [04:23] IIRC he is for the work on REVU [04:23] Nafallo: Yes, he is member, but not MOTU yet [04:23] siretart: oki, sorting out launchpad with sabdfl ;-) [04:23] ah. i see :) [04:25] gar [04:25] vegastrike build fail :( [04:25] heh [04:25] i wa sjust looking at the build log [04:25] err [04:25] email === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] yeah, not 64-bit clean [04:26] ah [04:26] int/pointer issues again [04:26] give up, amd64 sucks ;p [04:26] error: cast from 'Unit*' to 'int' loses precision [04:26] I don't use amd64 :) [04:26] heh [04:27] em64t then ;p [04:27] ajmitch: try to cast it to long === ajmitch uses i386 [04:27] as do i :) [04:27] this is just pasted from the amd64 build log [04:28] I'm hoping that it builds for i386 at least :) [04:29] most probably [04:30] that's all that matters for me ;) === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-76-217-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] Howdy [04:48] hello bddebian [04:48] Heya ajmitch [04:48] ajmitch: "Borrowed" an additional battery last night so it's ready to ship.. :-) [04:48] oh? [04:49] Yeah if I can get my lazy ass to label it, tape it up, and take it to the post office.. ;-) [04:49] heh [04:49] and in 2 months, it might show up? :) === ajmitch has had books ordered from the US that took 10 weeks to arrive [04:50] ajmitch: No, I am going to expedite it if possible [04:51] it's not urgent [04:56] great, vegastrike built ok on i386 & ppc [04:57] cool === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] I'm curious about Malone: if a bug is entered there, is anyone alerted automatically? [05:17] #ubuntu-bugs is notified, I don't think there's automatic assignment to anyone at the moment === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] OK. Thanks. === HiddenWolf [n=hc_brugm@213-73-250-180.cable.quicknet.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:21] ajmitch: Does this also apply to universe packages? I'm not finding info on one of my submissions (with a patch, even). [05:22] persia: malone is meant for just universe at the moment [05:23] what bug did you file? [05:24] ajmitch: 1696: insufficient joystick button support in vegastrike (there's also an FTBFS right now - yet unfiled). [05:25] an ftbfs ? i thought ajmitch just solved that one [05:25] ogra: it's a different FTBFS: it gets further along in the process... [05:25] ah... [05:26] i wasnt sure anyway if "miscompilation" would translate to ftbfs ;) [05:26] ogra: sorry, I did fix FTBFS on i386 [05:26] should have written FTBFS in changelog :) [05:27] ajmitch, i guessed so... := [05:27] :) [05:27] 33 joystick buttons? now that's just getting excessive :) [05:28] ajmitch: Yeah, well... It glows blue too! [05:28] hehe [05:28] I don't have a joystick, so I wouldn't be able to test the patch [05:28] I can apply & upload tomorrow though, and hopefully it will work, as you say :) [05:28] ajmitch: If you can help me to get it to compile on 64-bit machines, I'm happy to test :) [05:29] persia: ah, you have 64-bit machine? [05:29] I'm also happy to try to get it to compile. [05:29] ajmitch: Well, AMD64: I'm not sure it doesn't drop into 32-bit every once in a while. [05:30] yeah, it just FTBFS on amd64, I'll have to write up a patch for that === ajmitch might borrow an account off someone to test compiles [05:31] ajmitch: ia64 as well, from lamont's logs, although I can't verify. [05:31] it'll be the same error, trying to fit a pointer into an int [05:33] void AggressiveLoopAround(Order* aisc, Unit * un) { Order* broll = new Orders::LoopAround(true,true,false,(int)un); [05:33] should not be done on a 64-bit box [05:34] easy enough to fix, it's just a matter of how widespread it is through the source [05:35] Is it just a case of changing "int" to "long" for each call, and running the compilation again? [05:35]