| nikkia | mike1_: hmmm, check the mixer levels in alsamixer then | 12:05 |
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| Rogue_Jedi_X | I'm gonna go play some atlantiK. Later | 12:05 |
| Aapzak | Rogue_Jedi_X: enjoy! | 12:05 |
| CellarDoor | ah what should I apt if I wan't to reinstall kde 3.4.2 ? | 12:06 |
| CellarDoor | oh | 12:06 |
| CellarDoor | uh | 12:06 |
| Aapzak | CellarDoor: why reinstall? | 12:06 |
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| CellarDoor | cause its stuffed | 12:07 |
| Mustafa^^ | Is there any Turkish boy here | 12:07 |
| Aapzak | you? :) | 12:07 |
| Mustafa^^ | :) | 12:07 |
| Mustafa^^ | another | 12:07 |
| Aapzak | I'm not | 12:07 |
| Mustafa^^ | I think you are French :D | 12:08 |
| mike1_ | alsamixer good | 12:08 |
| Aapzak | I'm Dutch | 12:08 |
| mike1_ | btw worked fine with ubuntu | 12:08 |
| Mustafa^^ | Ok. Aapzak | 12:08 |
| mike1_ | i upgraded today | 12:08 |
| CellarDoor | bbl | 12:08 |
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| Aapzak | poor CellarDoor | 12:09 |
| mike1_ | how about sudo killall arts? | 12:09 |
| Mustafa^^ | I love kubuntu :)) | 12:10 |
| Aapzak | why mike, you you get a device busy error? | 12:10 |
| Mustafa^^ | Turk yok mu yaw :)) | 12:10 |
| mike1_ | yes | 12:10 |
| Aapzak | you're coming from Ubuntu? | 12:11 |
| mike1_ | audacity says sound device busy | 12:11 |
| Aapzak | check if esd is running | 12:11 |
| mike1_ | how about sudo killall arts.tried it arts: no process killed | 12:11 |
| nikkia | mike1_: as i said, you're suffering from locked sound | 12:11 |
| nikkia | mike1_: try this: artsshell -q terminate | 12:11 |
| Aapzak | it could be mike is still running an esd (from gnome) | 12:12 |
| nikkia | Aapzak: its possible, but IMO unlikely if he got the KDE drums | 12:12 |
| Aapzak | true | 12:12 |
| Aapzak | you can turn it off from kcontrol | 12:13 |
| Aapzak | ?? | 12:13 |
| nikkia | Aapzak: easier to use artsshell :) | 12:13 |
| mike1_ | no | 12:13 |
| mike1_ | sound server is down aplay still does not work | 12:13 |
| kay | Hm... I had to tell Mustafa^^ to use APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "yes"; | 12:14 |
| mike1_ | artsplay no server active | 12:14 |
| Aapzak | mike, you have lsof? | 12:14 |
| kay | Otherwise he could not install the source, anyone an idea of this may be broken? | 12:14 |
| nikkia | Aapzak: he should, its a core program in [k] ubuntu | 12:14 |
| Aapzak | lsof /dev/dsp | 12:14 |
| mike1_ | yes | 12:14 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | Well, this is boring. No players | 12:14 |
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| mike1_ | lsof /dev/dsp | 12:14 |
| Aapzak | nothing? | 12:15 |
| mike1_ | esd pid# 5w CHR 14,3 PID# /dev/dsp | 12:15 |
| Aapzak | there it is | 12:15 |
| nikkia | evil gnome! | 12:15 |
| Aapzak | kill esd | 12:15 |
| Aapzak | very evil | 12:16 |
| nikkia | that said, arts is evil too | 12:16 |
| nikkia | jack is the one true way! | 12:16 |
| Aapzak | I'm lucky with onboard sound with hardware mixing | 12:16 |
| Aapzak | I run arts and still can use OSS/Alsa | 12:16 |
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| movi | Aapzak : because youre using a card which has hardawre mixing for more than 2 streams | 12:17 |
| Aapzak | yes, and it's perfect, 4 streams | 12:17 |
| movi | I have a Audigy, and have 64 streams :) | 12:17 |
| Aapzak | more perfect ;) | 12:17 |
| movi | earlier had the Live! and had 32 | 12:18 |
| movi | never used more than 10 anyway | 12:18 |
| Aapzak | those are good as well I believe? 4 is more than enough | 12:18 |
| movi | and not at the same time | 12:18 |
| mike1_ | how to killesd | 12:18 |
| mike1_ | it keeps comming back | 12:18 |
| movi | mikel: sudo killall esd | 12:18 |
| mike1_ | sudo kill PID# | 12:18 |
| movi | and then set your Gnome not to launch it | 12:18 |
| US_A_EOD | Is there a way to keep windows (and their associated taskbar entries) to one virtual desktop? (As in, when switching desktops the taskbar clears). | 12:19 |
| Aapzak | is esd a system service in Ubuntu? | 12:19 |
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| Aapzak | US_A_EOD: dunno | 12:19 |
| movi | Aapzak : nope, unless you install Gnome | 12:19 |
| mike1_ | how to set gnome not to launch? esd | 12:19 |
| hippie23 | hello | 12:19 |
| Aapzak | Gnome is standard in Ubuntu | 12:19 |
| movi | Aapzak : but were in #kubuntu ;) | 12:20 |
| Aapzak | :) | 12:20 |
| movi | KDE is standard there | 12:20 |
| US_A_EOD | lol movi | 12:20 |
| Aapzak | I know, mike upgraded from Ubuntu, as did I | 12:20 |
| nikkia | Aapzak: jack is STILL a better solution | 12:20 |
| nikkia | wtf?!? | 12:20 |
| nikkia | why on earth has my bank changed their banner to a picture of a balloon with a happy face drawn on and wearing a wig?! | 12:20 |
| hippie23 | is it possible to install ubuntu over the net?...I have no cd burner | 12:20 |
| movi | Kubuntu != Ubuntu + KDE | 12:20 |
| nikkia | hippie23: yes, but its terribly hacky :) | 12:21 |
| mike1_ | yeah I have what looks like a gnome desktop says during startup that it is bypassing standard gnome and the starts kde on a blue background then changes back to brown | 12:21 |
| Aapzak | movi: is was unaware of that, I followed instructions on kubuntu.org | 12:21 |
| movi | Aapzak : still, run your gnome desktop, go to the sound preferences, and put-out the checkbox for Sound System | 12:22 |
| Aapzak | movi: mike is the one in trouble, I never run Gnome :) | 12:22 |
| hippie23 | can I mount the iso on my HDD and install from there? | 12:23 |
| nikkia | hippie23: not that i know of | 12:23 |
| Aapzak | hippie23: unlikely | 12:23 |
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| hippie23 | daen! | 12:23 |
| mike1_ | how to start arts? | 12:24 |
| Aapzak | technically it could be done, but it's not engineered like that | 12:24 |
| movi | Aapzak : im listening to a podcast at the same time, and i suck at multitasking :) | 12:24 |
| nikkia | mike1_: kcontrol | 12:24 |
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| kay | I have a question | 12:24 |
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| hippie23 | I hate being poor... I cant even afford a cheap cd burner | 12:24 |
| Aapzak | K -> control center -> sound & MM -> sound sys -> enable sound system | 12:24 |
| kay | FreeNX... I think I installed the server | 12:25 |
| kay | But, what viewer do I have on Ubuntu? | 12:25 |
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| hippie23 | this rh 7.3 is a pain in the arse | 12:26 |
| confrey | hi folk | 12:26 |
| Aapzak | hippie23: it sure is :) | 12:26 |
| Aapzak | kay: dunno | 12:27 |
| hippie23 | at least it dont crash | 12:27 |
| Aapzak | :) | 12:27 |
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| hippie23 | its a pain, but not a total bitch like winblows! | 12:28 |
| mike1_ | still have sound on kcontrol but nothing else working | 12:28 |
| Aapzak | mike1_: what apps are not working? | 12:28 |
| kay | ok, night guys and gals :) | 12:28 |
| Aapzak | bye kay | 12:28 |
| mike1_ | sorry audacity works | 12:29 |
| Aapzak | nice | 12:29 |
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| mike1_ | xmms works | 12:30 |
| Aapzak | gtg too boys and girls, up early in the morning | 12:30 |
| Aapzak | mike1_: it works! | 12:30 |
| nikkia | night Aapzak | 12:30 |
| mike1_ | artsplay too | 12:30 |
| Aapzak | tnx | 12:30 |
| Aapzak | good | 12:30 |
| Aapzak | mike1_: you're done, enjoy | 12:30 |
| Aapzak | bye! | 12:30 |
| c0rrupt_ | xmms > * | 12:31 |
| mike1_ | well than the proceedure is to run sudo killall esd and start arts with kcontrol? | 12:31 |
| tenco | kde-i18n-de has some problems | 12:31 |
| tenco | with "forward" buttons are named "backwards" | 12:31 |
| tenco | has kubuntu multiverse packages? | 12:35 |
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| confrey | is there an applet for viewing the cpu's frequency, like in gnome? | 12:37 |
| mike1_ | where are the startup scripts in Kubuntu? | 12:38 |
| redguy | tenco: ubuntu is kubuntu only with kubuntu-desktop instead of ubuntu desktop. the repos are the same... | 12:38 |
| amgat | hi all. I've configured my PCMCIA card with ndiswrapper, but i'm not not able so save my config. When I reboot, i have to configure it all over again. | 12:39 |
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| tenco | redguy: thanks | 12:43 |
| redguy | tenco: np | 12:44 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | I be vack | 12:45 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | And I brought tyos | 12:45 |
| hippie23 | does ubuntu come with alsa? | 12:45 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | *typos | 12:45 |
| Rogue_Jedi_X | hippie23: Yup | 12:45 |
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| hippie23 | good... im dl'ing it rite now, and dont want to screw with alsa | 12:46 |
| hippie23 | I cant get alsa to work this outdated old linux im using now | 12:46 |
| hippie23 | aRts sux, teamspeak doesnt work with it | 12:47 |
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| confrey | is there an applet for viewing the cpu's frequency, like in gnome? | 12:51 |
| mcquaid | hello i just upgraded to 3.4.2 and after a reboot kde no longer starts | 12:51 |
| mcquaid | it just kicks me back to kdm | 12:51 |
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| mcquaid | i don't see any thing in .xsession-errors or dmesg | 12:52 |
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| mcquaid | and i can't see how it's related but alt ctrl and shift have stopped working | 12:53 |
| brk3 | just wondering has anyone compiled packages of amarok 1.3 yet? | 12:53 |
| mcquaid | kinda strange stuff | 12:53 |
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| brk3 | crimsun: any progress..? | 12:58 |
| tenco | how can i update the kde-menu? | 01:00 |
| brk3 | tenco: right click a menu item and->edit item | 01:00 |
| brk3 | tenco: that what your looking for? | 01:02 |
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| CellarDoor | woohoo ! | 01:09 |
| CellarDoor | KDE is back in action :D | 01:09 |
| brk3 | just wondering has anyone compiled packages of amarok 1.3 yet? | 01:13 |
| tenco | brk3: auto-add of newly installed kde-apps | 01:16 |
| tenco | brk3: kmail e.g. wasnt added to the menu | 01:16 |
| brk3 | tenco: nothing really you can do about that.. some apps add themselves, some dont | 01:16 |
| tenco | brk3: but its a kde app | 01:17 |
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| brk3 | kmail probably should have | 01:18 |
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| CellarDoor | "I will not be distracted by meaningless ... Ooh!! A shiny object" | 01:21 |
| nikkia | tenco: try running kappfinder | 01:21 |
| tenco | nikkia: thanks | 01:23 |
| mike22 | nikkia: found out restarting X that the setting box down oon the left of the screen was set to default{ which happened to be gnome} changed it to kde and now everything work beautifully no sonund lock-ups | 01:23 |
| tenco | nikkia: sorry, doesnt work | 01:24 |
| mike22 | thanks again | 01:24 |
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| nikkia | tenco, 'doesn't work' is rather vague, what doesn't work? it can't find the program? it runs but doesn't list kmail? | 01:25 |
| tenco | nikkia: i runs but doesnt list any kde apps, yes | 01:26 |
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| c0rrupt_ | does nessus have a channel anywhere? | 01:49 |
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| c0rrupt_ | 01:55 | |
| c0rrupt_ | 01:55 | |
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| _pax | An unidentified software virus was being blamed for computer system outages on Tuesday at ABC News, CNN and the New York Times, as computer security companies tried to pin down the cause of the disruption. | 01:55 |
| _pax | That's what you get for using MS products. | 01:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | ?? | 01:55 |
| kinfo | what? | 01:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | LOL | 01:55 |
| CellarDoor | mmm | 01:57 |
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| Rogue_Jedi_X | Wow | 02:04 |
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| ubuntu | kak e | 02:06 |
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| mick | hi folks | 02:07 |
| mick | anyone here any good with sound cards, esp el cheapo cmi ones? | 02:08 |
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| CellarDoor | ah I'm still using the on board sound on my mobo | 02:12 |
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| equex | is there any known exploits for Kview ? | 02:19 |
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| equex | because i think i just got owned by opening a .sh file from the net with kwiew and my machine freezed | 02:20 |
| equex | and all the fonts changed | 02:20 |
| CellarDoor | ah what version ? | 02:25 |
| equex | the most recent i assume | 02:26 |
| james | is anyone here having problems with xcompmgr? | 02:26 |
| CellarDoor | ah rite | 02:26 |
| james | it freezes my desktop whenever i use it for more than three seconds in kde | 02:26 |
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| mick | neither | 02:27 |
| equex | wtf kview is a image viewer lol | 02:27 |
| equex | thought it was a text viewver | 02:27 |
| CellarDoor | mmm | 02:28 |
| equex | why the hell is an image viewer default for text files | 02:28 |
| equex | >p | 02:28 |
| CellarDoor | it isn't | 02:28 |
| CellarDoor | or shouldn't be | 02:28 |
| CellarDoor | usually Kate is | 02:28 |
| equex | firefox | 02:28 |
| equex | pos | 02:28 |
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| equex | well dang | 02:29 |
| equex | more power to them | 02:29 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 02:29 |
| james | " kate - KDE Advanced Text Editor" | 02:30 |
| james | noobs | 02:30 |
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| caller | Hello | 02:34 |
| caller | Anyone here? | 02:34 |
| caller | I could really use help with mondo... | 02:34 |
| mick | no | 02:34 |
| mick | we are all gone home | 02:34 |
| mick | :-P | 02:35 |
| caller | Hey mick :) | 02:35 |
| caller | Have you used mondo? | 02:35 |
| mick | never heard of it sorry | 02:35 |
| mick | my first time | 02:35 |
| mick | what is it? | 02:35 |
| caller | :/ | 02:35 |
| mick | im curiouis now | 02:35 |
| caller | Program that backs up all your files on your pc to a cdrom device | 02:35 |
| mick | now that sounds cool | 02:35 |
| mick | ive been using a scrpt that webmin threw together to throw onto a partiition on my disc here and then once a week a cron script to burn it to cd | 02:36 |
| caller | I see | 02:37 |
| caller | Well my purpose is different | 02:37 |
| mick | of course, im a home user one machine | 02:37 |
| caller | What I need is to burn my entire system to a disk, and duplicate it to a different system. | 02:37 |
| mick | but each to their own | 02:37 |
| mick | ahhh like a free version of norton ghost | 02:37 |
| caller | Eh, not really | 02:38 |
| caller | Norton Ghost requires a server | 02:38 |
| caller | Or a network | 02:38 |
| caller | Which I don't have | 02:38 |
| caller | I just need to burn it to disk, entirely, so without Internet I can duplicate the system | 02:38 |
| mick | but i have the right idea right | 02:38 |
| caller | there are 20 systems, and I really can't set them all up | 02:38 |
| caller | yea I suppose | 02:38 |
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| mick | i have never used it so im sorry i cant help you much | 02:39 |
| caller | Ok, thanks anyway | 02:39 |
| mick | what about doing it the easy way with kickstart files? | 02:39 |
| caller | How does that program of yours work though? | 02:39 |
| caller | Eh, Kickstart? | 02:39 |
| mick | its no good for what your doing | 02:39 |
| caller | I see...then what good is it for? | 02:39 |
| mick | i have a 60 gig hd | 02:39 |
| caller | Just backs up files, not the os? | 02:39 |
| mick | correct | 02:39 |
| mick | so i back up daily...automated | 02:40 |
| caller | I see | 02:40 |
| mick | tarball with the date as the file name | 02:40 |
| caller | So uh, what is this about kickstart? | 02:40 |
| mick | of selected directories | 02:40 |
| mick | its like a file that contains what packages you want to install... | 02:40 |
| mick | creates a floppy of that | 02:40 |
| mick | so you can semi automate set up on more than one machine | 02:40 |
| mick | most distros allow it | 02:41 |
| mick | not to sure about ubutu though | 02:41 |
| caller | I see :/ | 02:41 |
| mick | have i muddied the waters yet?? | 02:41 |
| caller | I'm screwed | 02:43 |
| caller | I can't get this set up by tonight | 02:44 |
| caller | it's impossible | 02:44 |
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| I_Eat_Plastic | Hmmm, I need some help. How come I can't use make? | 03:22 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | I'm aslo trying to install a program and I keep getting this output error. http://rafb.net/paste/results/rItXN382.html | 03:23 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | I think it's because I'm missing some packages.. | 03:23 |
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| skyred | yes u probably need autoconf & automake & build essential i think.... | 03:24 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | How do I get it? | 03:24 |
| skyred | through kynaptic | 03:26 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | What packages, and sources? | 03:26 |
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| caller | Hello | 03:49 |
| caller | how can I find out my device ID? | 03:49 |
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| caller | :( | 03:50 |
| caller | Please, I need help! | 03:52 |
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| skyred | hiyaaaaaaaaaa | 03:54 |
| skyred | i've heard that kaffeine compiled from src can play mp3 & dvds! | 03:54 |
| skyred | caller: whats ur prob? | 03:55 |
| caller | how can I find out my device ID? | 03:55 |
| caller | of my cdrw, that is | 03:55 |
| skyred | hmmm.....sorry i dunno.....try windows hardware browser or kinfo center | 03:56 |
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| caller | eh... | 03:56 |
| caller | Ubuntu man | 03:57 |
| caller | lol | 03:57 |
| jesusfish | crimsun: any update on amaroK? | 03:57 |
| skyred | caller: ??? | 03:57 |
| caller | skyred, not windows | 03:57 |
| skyred | i thougth u mught be using windoze......kinfocenter is kde app btw | 03:58 |
| caller | lol | 03:58 |
| caller | skyred, how opened? | 03:58 |
| caller | ah, nvm | 03:58 |
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| caller | Can you tell me how to find out my system's cd burner's device ID? Please? | 04:00 |
| pax | SCSI CD burner? | 04:04 |
| caller | pax, yea | 04:04 |
| pax | try sudo cdrecord --scanbus | 04:04 |
| caller | pax, ubuntu disabled that | 04:06 |
| pax | k3b doesn't pick it up? | 04:06 |
| caller | k3b works fine | 04:06 |
| caller | cdrecord doesn't | 04:06 |
| caller | scratch that | 04:06 |
| caller | cdrecord does | 04:07 |
| caller | but cdrecord --scanbus does not work in ubuntu | 04:07 |
| caller | I need to find out my device id. | 04:07 |
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| caller | hippie18, do you know how I can figure out my cdrw device number | 04:11 |
| flugh | anyone have a link or advice on importing my pile of email in thunderbird to kmail? | 04:13 |
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| I_Eat_Plastic | How do I get makeinfo? | 04:15 |
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| malv | is konqueror a bit krashy or is it just me? | 04:15 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | Sometimes, | 04:16 |
| malv | any solution? | 04:16 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | Firefox | 04:16 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | :P | 04:16 |
| caller | Firefox also crashes a lot | 04:17 |
| caller | less so the windblows version | 04:18 |
| flugh | malv: i don't like konqueror. cant even hit the configuration stuff for my dsl modem with it | 04:18 |
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| malv | yea, I have similar issues | 04:19 |
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| sn0n | there ya go ;-) | 04:19 |
| sn0n | g'day | 04:19 |
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| PHZN`Away | Hey, how do I set custom icons on KDE? | 04:19 |
| malv | I like using apps in the kde environment, but konqueror is just bleh | 04:19 |
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| supernix | Hiya gang | 04:54 |
| supernix | SUP | 04:54 |
| supernix | BOLO for the worm going around so far it is hitting just about all windows boxes | 04:54 |
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| pax | old news :c~ | 04:58 |
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| supernix | I have had constant hits on port 1026,1027,1028 and a few others | 05:01 |
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| supernix | I have a file and I was curious if someone could tell me exactly what it does it is a shell script best I can tell it finds and mounts drives when you run it | 05:02 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | I keep getting this error message when running a configure file. I can't run make either. | 05:05 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables | 05:05 |
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| pax | supernix: I always had hits on those ports, something to do with msn messenger I think | 05:07 |
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| supernix | pax: definately right | 05:14 |
| supernix | I looked it up and found out that it is that spam to the MS messenger service | 05:15 |
| supernix | It was supposed to be a system so that an admin could send a message to others on the network to update them on status but spammers started using it to sell spam blocker software | 05:15 |
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| pax | supernix: it was too much, I had the firewall set to skip logging 1026 and 1027 entries | 05:18 |
| supernix | LOL me to | 05:18 |
| supernix | I noticed that and said well might as well stop recording that crap since it is useless | 05:19 |
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| sproingie | there are still messenger popup spammers? | 05:24 |
| sproingie | i thought anyone with a pulse and a brain had it disabled or firewalled by now | 05:24 |
| sproingie | i suppose that still leaves the target market for spammers | 05:25 |
| I_Eat_Plastic | How can I get makeinfo? | 05:26 |
| supernix | there are still people buying computers right now that still are so irresponcible that they are actually running them on the net without a virus scanner or a firewall ( windows of course ) | 05:26 |
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| crimsun | jesusfish: hope to have some posted in a few hours. Debugging a kcfg issue. | 05:27 |
| sproingie | it's not like they're taught anything about such responsibility | 05:27 |
| sproingie | my mom's not an irresponsible idiot, she just doesn't know | 05:27 |
| sproingie | she knows *now* ... not when she first got online tho | 05:27 |
| supernix | I have a cousin that I explained all thist stuff to and he still runs without the virus scanner or firewall and I am sure he does not update the pc that often either | 05:29 |
| sproingie | there's of course deliberately obstinate and dumb, tho often it's just because they don't quite get the certainty of the fact that they'll get pwn3d | 05:30 |
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| sproingie | people gotta learn it isn't 1995 anymore, you can't go months or years without getting an unsecured box cracked | 05:32 |
| sproingie | more like 20 seconds. 24 hours if you're lucky | 05:33 |
| PHZN`Away | I can imagine what security will be like 10 years from now. | 05:34 |
| PHZN`Away | People will have new techniques and boxes will be cracked on a daily basis. | 05:34 |
| supernix | guys is there a program that I can get and run that will automount my ntfs ? | 05:34 |
| supernix | I have a sata and it just does not want to mount at boot time | 05:34 |
| supernix | thank god I did not install my OS on the SATA although windows never has an issue with that Linux does | 05:35 |
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| sproingie | badly admined boxes do get cracked on a daily basis | 05:38 |
| sproingie | i hope 10 years from now we're not talking about buffer overruns anymore | 05:38 |
| sproingie | but i suspect we will | 05:38 |
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| pax | supernix: tried seveas's script? | 05:44 |
| supernix | nah not sure what that is | 05:44 |
| supernix | what is it? | 05:45 |
| pax | supernix: http://ninux.net/files/winmac_fstab | 05:45 |
| supernix | ah I have that very script | 05:45 |
| pax | no go? | 05:46 |
| supernix | I have run it as sudo but it does not alter fstab at all for some reason | 05:46 |
| pax | did you try chmod a+x it | 05:46 |
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| supernix | hmmm I just did chmod +x that is all | 05:47 |
| pax | weird | 05:47 |
| pax | sudo bash winmac_fstab and all eh? | 05:48 |
| supernix | yep | 05:49 |
| supernix | just tried that and nothing | 05:49 |
| supernix | could it be that I already have a mount point in fstab that has been commented out ? | 05:49 |
| pax | about? | 05:49 |
| pax | an entry of what? | 05:50 |
| supernix | #/dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults,umask=0222 0 0 | 05:50 |
| supernix | as you can see it is commented out though | 05:50 |
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| pax | I don't think so | 05:51 |
| supernix | when I boot I always get the message that there is no device sda1 to mount | 05:51 |
| pax | sda1 exists? | 05:51 |
| supernix | I have a sata drive installed yes | 05:52 |
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| pax | supernix: what's your uid? | 05:55 |
| supernix | hmmm I guess 100 | 05:55 |
| pax | 1000 you mean? | 05:55 |
| pax | try this: /dev/sda1 /mnt/window ntfs ro,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 | 05:56 |
| supernix | yeah I guess | 05:56 |
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| supernix | pax will that make it mount at boot time ? | 05:58 |
| pax | should | 05:58 |
| supernix | great | 05:58 |
| supernix | Not sure what all that dmaks fmask and so on and such is about though | 05:58 |
| pax | ..I hope hehe | 05:58 |
| pax | permissions | 05:59 |
| pax | supernix: can you browse windoz now? | 06:01 |
| supernix | mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist is the message i keep getting | 06:03 |
| pax | gotta create it then | 06:03 |
| supernix | it is already there | 06:04 |
| pax | can do just mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows | 06:05 |
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| supernix | I had a mount already in my fstab that would work to make it read only and mountable only by root | 06:14 |
| supernix | but I always had to wait till after the reboot and then do a mount -a to make it mount the drive | 06:14 |
| pax | so, no go with that fstab line, huh? | 06:16 |
| supernix | nah actually the one I have already works for all intents and purposes | 06:16 |
| supernix | but it does not mount the device at boot time | 06:17 |
| supernix | I always have to run mount -a after the boot | 06:17 |
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| pax | it should mount at boot since you dont have 'noauto' there | 06:20 |
| supernix | I don't get it | 06:21 |
| supernix | I uncommented that line I had before and of course commented hte line you gave me then run the mount -a and it mounted the drive | 06:21 |
| supernix | crazy thing is my /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows and yours were the same as best I could tell | 06:22 |
| pax | replace /mnt/windows with /media/0 | 06:23 |
| pax | not that it makes any difference but that's ubuntu way | 06:23 |
| pax | then browse /media/ with konqueror | 06:23 |
| pax | check if it's mounted | 06:24 |
| supernix | ok so you mean that will make it see it at boot time ? | 06:24 |
| pax | I mean media:/ | 06:24 |
| pax | it should, I mean it works for me | 06:25 |
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| static | i've just installed kubuntu. is there a package that i can install with kyanptic or apt-get to make gnome apps look like kde apps? | 06:29 |
| crimsun | sudo aptitude install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt | 06:34 |
| crimsun | you can then configure it using the control center settings | 06:34 |
| supernix | pax I think we have pay dirt | 06:35 |
| supernix | the drive just mounted fine | 06:35 |
| pax | hehe good :) | 06:35 |
| supernix | actually all I did was retype the /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows part of the command then after I did that and did mount -a again it worked | 06:36 |
| supernix | as crazy as it sounds it works | 06:36 |
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| static | synaptic doesn't find that package. do you think i need to add a line to /etc/aps/sources.list? perhaps the ubuntu repository doesn't have the package? | 06:49 |
| static | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gtk2-engine-gtk-qt" | 06:50 |
| static | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gtk2-engines-gtk-qt" | 06:50 |
| crimsun | static: do you have the universe repository enabled? | 06:50 |
| static | all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list with "universe" in them are commented out. should i uncomment one? | 06:51 |
| crimsun | you should uncomment at least the deb ... universe one | 06:52 |
| static | woohoo! got it. had to also do a "synaptic update" to make it read the list of packages. | 07:01 |
| static | thanks for helping! | 07:01 |
| static | works great. | 07:02 |
| crimsun | excellent. | 07:02 |
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| _frank | static: try synaptic it's much better than kynaptic | 07:06 |
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| hater2win | how would i go about installing my printer in linux? | 07:37 |
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| dell500 | how do i get my dvd to not stutter when playing the dvd on kaffiene | 07:42 |
| _frank | dell500: enable dma on the dvdrom | 07:42 |
| _frank | !dma | 07:42 |
| _frank | !tell dell500 about dma | 07:43 |
| dell500 | should i stop the dvd and start it over where i was | 07:44 |
| dell500 | to not damage anything | 07:45 |
| _frank | dell500: ok | 07:47 |
| dell500 | ok, well i enabled dma | 07:48 |
| dell500 | but now when i do mount /dev/dvd it says that hdc is already mounted to cdrom0 | 07:48 |
| _frank | do you have 2 cdroms? | 07:50 |
| dell500 | nope | 07:52 |
| dell500 | should i have done hdparm on the /dev/dvd instead ... | 07:52 |
| _frank | you should do it on /dev/hdc | 07:53 |
| _frank | well most likely hdc | 07:53 |
| dell500 | ok, well why does kaffiene say that i don't have permission or hdc isn't available | 07:53 |
| _frank | you have the dvd in the drive? | 07:53 |
| dell500 | yup | 07:54 |
| _frank | try sudo umount /dev/hdc | 07:54 |
| dell500 | then remount /dev/dvd or /dev/hdc?? | 07:55 |
| _frank | you don't mount a dvd | 07:55 |
| dell500 | aha | 07:55 |
| _frank | just try to open kaffeine | 07:55 |
| dell500 | sweet | 07:56 |
| dell500 | that worked | 07:56 |
| _frank | ok | 07:56 |
| _frank | great | 07:56 |
| dell500 | so it should be smooth and not jerky.... | 07:56 |
| dell500 | i hope | 07:56 |
| _frank | yeah | 07:56 |
| _frank | did you make the setting permanent by editing /etc/hdparm.conf? | 07:56 |
| dell500 | ya | 07:56 |
| dell500 | thanks again | 07:57 |
| _frank | no problem | 07:57 |
| dell500 | another question..... i just got cable from another provider, it seems to go on standby a lot, this never use to happen on charter (new service is mediacom) | 07:58 |
| _frank | what goes on standby? | 07:59 |
| dell500 | the modem | 08:00 |
| dell500 | then it just kinda cuts me off the net and i have to unplug the modem for about 2 minutes | 08:00 |
| dell500 | not sure what's up with it | 08:01 |
| _frank | I don't know but the problem is probably with the modem or ISP rather than with you | 08:01 |
| dell500 | ya, that's what i thought :) | 08:01 |
| dell500 | anyway, time for bed | 08:03 |
| dell500 | thanks again | 08:03 |
| hater2win | how do i install my printer? | 08:07 |
| hater2win | anybody? i have to print stuff for school =( | 08:07 |
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| Tribune | anybody can teach me how to set monitor resolution? now my monitor detect 640 but i need 1024 resolution | 08:14 |
| _frank | !resolution | 08:15 |
| ubotu | it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 08:15 |
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| hussam | lol CNN windows 2000 computers got owned. http://www.flexbeta.net/main/comments.php?catid=11&id=14346 | 10:30 |
| hussam | by a virus | 10:30 |
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| Mustafa^^ | Hello! | 10:51 |
| Mustafa^^ | I upgraded KDE 3.4.0 to 3.4.2, but amaroK doesn't working! | 10:51 |
| Mustafa^^ | amaroK: [Loader] Starting amarokapp.. | 10:52 |
| Mustafa^^ | amaroK: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokap p. | 10:52 |
| Mustafa^^ | /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient. so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 10:52 |
| Mustafa^^ | says | 10:52 |
| Mustafa^^ | what can I do? | 10:52 |
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| nikkia | Mustafa^^: it looks like the version of amarok you're using was built against a different version of mysql | 10:55 |
| nikkia | Mustafa^^: you'll need to check if either mysql or amarok is 'out of date' and update accordingly, though, to be honest, the dependancy system SHOULD have caught that | 10:55 |
| Mustafa^^ | ok thanx | 10:57 |
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| libanes | hola | 11:16 |
| libanes | alguien por aca | 11:16 |
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| Wizzard | hi, how can I close the open ports on my machine? | 11:24 |
| nikkia | Wizzard: either stop the services that are listening on them, if you don't need them, or by manipulating the iptables firewall | 11:26 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, first as root user from console run "netstat -auntp" this will show what processes are responsible for what ports so you can disable then | 11:26 |
| nikkia | there are GUI tools to write iptables rules, or you can do them by hand (more flexible, but far more complicated) | 11:26 |
| Wizzard | I want to close 8080 for example, but I do not know how | 11:26 |
| Wizzard | it is some http-proxy service | 11:26 |
| nikkia | Wizzard: hmmm, 8080 is probably squid | 11:26 |
| nikkia | Wizzard: do this, sudo /etc/init.d/squid stop | 11:27 |
| nikkia | then check if 8080 is still open | 11:27 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, when you say close do you mean disable or make invisible from outside and still run on LAN? | 11:27 |
| nikkia | if its not, then you probably also want to remove the symbolic link in /etc/rc3.d that points to squid | 11:27 |
| Wizzard | hm, I do not have squid | 11:27 |
| Wizzard | I do not want any webserver running | 11:28 |
| nikkia | Wizzard: then i'd suggest removing apache from the package list | 11:28 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, dont listen to nikkita | 11:28 |
| Wizzard | I do not have apache either :D | 11:28 |
| nikkia | Wizzard: unless you did something odd, yes you do | 11:28 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, run this command and paste output here "netstat -auntp | grep 8080" | 11:28 |
| Chameleon22 | nikkia, stop suggestion half assed things that involve uninstalling stuff! | 11:29 |
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| Wizzard | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6798/middleman | 11:29 |
| nikkia | Chameleon22: if he doesn't want a web server running, having apache installed is a waste | 11:29 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, ok now do you know what middleman is? | 11:29 |
| Wizzard | nope :D | 11:29 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, try this "/etc/init.d/middleman stop" | 11:30 |
| Wizzard | I think I uninstall it | 11:30 |
| Chameleon22 | then tell me the output of that comand i gave you before | 11:30 |
| Wizzard | now it is free | 11:30 |
| matthew | hmm i followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org to install java, but apparently no such package exists? | 11:30 |
| Wizzard | yes, it was middleman | 11:31 |
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| Wizzard | thx much :D | 11:31 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, download from java.sun.com | 11:31 |
| matthew | thanks | 11:31 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, ok now you need to disable it so it doesnt start at boot | 11:31 |
| Wizzard | I removed it :D | 11:31 |
| Chameleon22 | you do this by #1 | 11:31 |
| Chameleon22 | you removed it? | 11:31 |
| Wizzard | yep, I do not want to have some trash | 11:32 |
| Chameleon22 | so you did dpkg --purge or something | 11:32 |
| Chameleon22 | ? | 11:32 |
| Wizzard | apt-get remove middleman | 11:32 |
| Wizzard | it was some proxy server | 11:32 |
| _Mose_ | hey, i've got an error (when typed make) containing info smth about "virtual outside class declaration" and "parse error before...". what to do ? can someone help? | 11:32 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, ok cool, if middleman has conf files it leaves them behind you should use "dpkg --purge pkg_name" | 11:32 |
| Chameleon22 | unless you want to keep confs (i do but backed up ;) | 11:33 |
| Wizzard | hm, good idea, I will try | 11:33 |
| nikkia | wizzard, i'm a little puzzled as to why it was installed, its not a default package | 11:33 |
| matthew | is it j2se i will want? | 11:33 |
| nikkia | Wizzard: unless you installed it at some point when it seemed like a good idea *shrug* | 11:33 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, correct | 11:33 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, you neeed it for programming or for other apps? | 11:34 |
| matthew | just for apps | 11:35 |
| Wizzard | is there some way to remove the configuration of all removed packages? | 11:35 |
| matthew | im having trouble finding what i need | 11:35 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, what is it that you think you need and WHY | 11:36 |
| Chameleon22 | Wizzard, "man apt" and "man dpkg" | 11:36 |
| matthew | the java machine, to run applications such as limewire | 11:36 |
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| Chameleon22 | matthew, ok,there is a smaller pkg but i dont know so download latest linux version of j2se from sun site and ill walk you through install | 11:37 |
| matthew | ok thanks | 11:37 |
| matthew | http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp i found that, but it seems development orientated? | 11:38 |
| Chameleon22 | thats fine download it | 11:39 |
| matthew | ok:) | 11:39 |
| matthew | 120mb? | 11:40 |
| PieD | matthew: ... | 11:40 |
| PieD | what do you need ? | 11:40 |
| PieD | developer kit ? | 11:40 |
| PieD | runtime only ? | 11:40 |
| matthew | just the ability to run java apps, no dev stuff | 11:40 |
| matthew | yes | 11:40 |
| Chameleon22 | PieD, he only need runtime | 11:40 |
| PieD | then download the JRE | 11:40 |
| PieD | not JDK nor bundle netbeans + JDK | 11:41 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, listen to PieD thats the pkg i couldnt remember :) | 11:41 |
| PieD | Chameleon22: I'm quite used to the java related questions :p | 11:41 |
| Chameleon22 | PieD, me to but from dev side of things hehehe | 11:41 |
| matthew | i think ive got it, its 15mb | 11:41 |
| matthew | bin file | 11:41 |
| PieD | Chameleon22: for me that's both :/ | 11:42 |
| PieD | matthew: yes | 11:42 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, you will also need to add path to your profile | 11:42 |
| PieD | (don't download the rpm !) | 11:42 |
| matthew | ok thanks | 11:42 |
| matthew | i havent! | 11:42 |
| Chameleon22 | ok me go code | 11:42 |
| Chameleon22 | bye bye | 11:42 |
| matthew | then sudo /.(bin file)? | 11:42 |
| PieD | matthew: you _will_ | 11:42 |
| PieD | sudo ./(bin file) | 11:42 |
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| PieD | but that may fail | 11:42 |
| matthew | ok thanks | 11:42 |
| PieD | because it's not executable by default | 11:42 |
| matthew | how to givve permissions? | 11:43 |
| PieD | you'll have to mark it as executable | 11:43 |
| PieD | chmod +x (bin file) | 11:43 |
| matthew | thanks | 11:43 |
| Chameleon22 | err better yet "chmod 755 FILE" | 11:43 |
| PieD | (x like eXecute, r like Read, w like Write : the rwxrwxrwx combination :) | 11:43 |
| Chameleon22 | letters are for sissys! | 11:43 |
| Chameleon22 | octals!!! | 11:43 |
| matthew | lol | 11:43 |
| PieD | Chameleon22: there may be beginners here | 11:44 |
| Chameleon22 | so teach them | 11:44 |
| Chameleon22 | thats the whole thing | 11:44 |
| Chameleon22 | and octal system is way easier to teach | 11:44 |
| PieD | first learn them how to add and substract in octal :p | 11:44 |
| Chameleon22 | not at all | 11:44 |
| matthew | octal base 8? | 11:44 |
| PieD | matthew: yes | 11:44 |
| PieD | octal is base 8 | 11:45 |
| matthew | aaaaaah | 11:45 |
| PieD | I prefer base 2 | 11:45 |
| PieD | it allows me to count up to 31 with one hand :) | 11:45 |
| matthew | :P | 11:45 |
| Chameleon22 | exacute =1; read = 4; write = 2; so to make something read and write you do 2+4 and you get 6 thats first group (owner) then same for group so another 6 you get 66 and no permissions for anyone else so thats a 0 so you get 660 | 11:46 |
| Chameleon22 | easy! | 11:46 |
| libanes | i need to use kdm not gmd how i can change this?? | 11:46 |
| PieD | apt-get install kdm | 11:46 |
| PieD | apt-get remove gdm | 11:46 |
| PieD | and that's done :) | 11:46 |
| Chameleon22 | purging gdm would be cleaner | 11:46 |
| Chameleon22 | :p | 11:46 |
| libanes | i have install kdm and gdm | 11:46 |
| matthew | yay i will soon have torrent goodness on linux:) | 11:47 |
| libanes | if y remove gdm thats all?? | 11:47 |
| libanes | are you sure? | 11:47 |
| Chameleon22 | install kdm first | 11:47 |
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| Chameleon22 | dont want to chop of your own legs before you get new once hehehe | 11:47 |
| libanes | is installed | 11:47 |
| matthew | how would i check if the install has been successful>? | 11:47 |
| Chameleon22 | matthew, did you add jar to path | 11:48 |
| Chameleon22 | ? | 11:48 |
| libanes | * Reloading K Display Manager configuration... [fail] | 11:48 |
| libanes | invoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed. | 11:48 |
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| matthew | add jar? | 11:48 |
| Chameleon22 | ok me go code for real now ! | 11:48 |
| Chameleon22 | bye bye | 11:48 |
| matthew | bye | 11:48 |
| matthew | what does he mean by add jar to path? | 11:49 |
| libanes | ?? | 11:50 |
| kinfo | i don't understand. | 11:50 |
| _Mose_ | could someone help? i got errors while compiling : "virtual outside class declaration" and "parse error before..." | 12:00 |
| _Mose_ | :/ | 12:05 |
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| ahluka | all, i need help updating kde to 3.4.2 | 12:16 |
| ahluka | i've got all the dependancies but when i go to install one, it depends on another, which depends on the first one, it makes no sense :| | 12:16 |
| ahluka | a big circle | 12:17 |
| jpatrick | all you have to do is: apt-get upgrade | 12:17 |
| jpatrick | or: apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:18 |
| ahluka | i did but it didn't update kde :| | 12:18 |
| jpatrick | why? | 12:18 |
| ahluka | no idea | 12:18 |
| ahluka | i'll try it again though | 12:18 |
| jpatrick | :| | 12:18 |
| ahluka | hmm it's rolling... | 12:19 |
| ahluka | man this is gonna eat into my broadband limit, but bugger it | 12:19 |
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| PurpleMotion | check out what I did with kubuntu :) http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg (and check out my Jornada, too: http://www.daede.com/Jornada690.jpg ) | 01:22 |
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| zAo^ | any good (QT-based) p2p software? | 01:42 |
| === [ITA] MisterX hm | ||
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| DocTomoe | Just ask .... Where is the mozilla plugin directory? I want to put it into konqueror so that the flash plugin I installed works not only with firefox. | 01:51 |
| PurpleMotion | i dont really either | 01:52 |
| PurpleMotion | like i have no clue how i would package this desktop | 01:52 |
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| gdh | hi :) what's the name of the WiFi cards which use pure GPL drivers? | 01:58 |
| gdh | It's often bandied around here, but I can't remember it... | 01:58 |
| gdh | ah, ralink or something? | 01:59 |
| PurpleMotion | hrmm | 01:59 |
| PurpleMotion | try asking in #ubuntu | 01:59 |
| PurpleMotion | I, personally, don't know | 01:59 |
| PurpleMotion | orinco? | 02:00 |
| gdh | k, I know someone from this chan uses them - they must be asleep / at work :) | 02:00 |
| gdh | no matter - cheers :) | 02:00 |
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| === PM-Asleep is away: Sleeping. Check out my desktop: http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg | ||
| === [ITA] MisterX is Away | ||
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| === [ITA] MisterX is away: AWAYYYY | ||
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| djtm | could anyone recommend a good binary newsreader to me? | 02:09 |
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| milksteak | pan's alright | 02:19 |
| djtm | thanks milksteak, ill give it a try | 02:21 |
| milksteak | I don't use newsgroups mucht though | 02:21 |
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| mainaccount | join #slug | 02:24 |
| mainaccount | whoops... | 02:24 |
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| jpatrick | :-/ | 02:26 |
| mainaccount | :-\ | 02:26 |
| mainaccount | mainaccount - how droll | 02:27 |
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| chaumurky | ahh, that better | 02:30 |
| milksteak | heh | 02:30 |
| chaumurky | say hello to irc newb... | 02:31 |
| chaumurky | actually wanted to join slug but kubuntu was set as a default. well, hello... | 02:32 |
| chaumurky | Zzzzz... | 02:32 |
| milksteak | heh | 02:33 |
| chaumurky | SLUG... Zzzzz... lovinKonversation.... Hello me! | 02:33 |
| milksteak | rather quiet in this chan | 02:33 |
| chaumurky | yup | 02:33 |
| milksteak | #ubuntu has a bit more | 02:33 |
| chaumurky | hrmmm... Zzzzz | 02:33 |
| milksteak | heh | 02:33 |
| chaumurky | bot ha! | 02:33 |
| chaumurky | shal sheck #'untu. ta. | 02:34 |
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| jpatrick | why not join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu ? | 02:44 |
| jpatrick | :p | 02:44 |
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| kubuntulivecd | hey all...in windows, if it crashes, you hit control+alt+delete. I know linux doesnt crash anywhere near as often, but is there some sort of equivalent hotkey? | 03:14 |
| jpatrick | not that I know of... :-/ | 03:15 |
| kubuntulivecd | then what do you do if it freezes on you? | 03:15 |
| jpatrick | wait | 03:15 |
| kubuntulivecd | yeah, and then? | 03:16 |
| kubuntulivecd | i hear the power button's not a great idea | 03:16 |
| jpatrick | until the kwin says "blah blah has frozen" | 03:16 |
| kubuntulivecd | ah ok, thanks! | 03:16 |
| kubuntulivecd | i'd not come across that in the wiki or forums yet :P | 03:16 |
| Zinoc | Or if you are not so patient, alt+f2, xkill, aim and click the frozen application | 03:16 |
| kubuntulivecd | right, ok | 03:17 |
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| Zinoc | This is a reason why I love linux: you litteraly shoot the problem | 03:17 |
| kubuntulivecd | hehe...working to get back to it...i'm not allowed to install it again till after my final exams | 03:17 |
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| kubuntulivecd | hehe nice!!! | 03:19 |
| kubuntulivecd | i like it! | 03:19 |
| kubuntulivecd | click and it goes zap! none of this windows rubbish of "oh no, i cant shut down right now"...grr! | 03:19 |
| kubuntulivecd | thanks for that | 03:21 |
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| kubuntulivecd | suppose i ought to shut down and go to bed...nite all, thanks for the help :P | 03:24 |
| jpatrick | night | 03:24 |
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| nikkia | jpatrick: for future reference, the KDE equivalent of ctrl-alt-delete for the task manager is ctrl-esc | 04:03 |
| jpatrick | oh | 04:04 |
| nikkia | oof | 04:06 |
| nikkia | no wonder my java was running slow, gimp was eating nearly 2GB | 04:06 |
| jpatrick | Gimp hardly eats anything here :-/ | 04:07 |
| nikkia | jpatrick, you probably don't have *multiple* 80+ layer 1366x768 images open | 04:07 |
| tenco | kstars sometimtes slows the system down unusually :( | 04:07 |
| jpatrick | oh yeah | 04:08 |
| nikkia | jpatrick, each image was using somewhere around 400-500MB :P | 04:08 |
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| jpatrick | my computer would die if I did that | 04:09 |
| nikkia | its a shame gimp couldn't be more efficient when handling large layer counts, really, especially if a lot of those layers are disabled | 04:10 |
| nikkia | something like compressing/decompressing layers as they're disabled/enabled would be useful | 04:10 |
| nikkia | cos 4MB per layer is just a tad nasty when you have that many layers, and most of the layers are about 80-95% transparent, i'm sure they'd compress well | 04:10 |
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| nikkia | (erm, by that, i mean 80-95% area comprising 100% transparent, but you probably realised that) | 04:11 |
| nikkia | jpatrick: its like earlier, i finished my Rmagic rewrite of a python util i use a lot... | 04:11 |
| nikkia | and loaded the output image into my app, BOOM | 04:12 |
| nikkia | it was then i realised Rmagick defaults to 16 bits per component when writing PNG files :/ | 04:12 |
| nikkia | i must say tho, Rmagick utterly rocks | 04:13 |
| nikkia | you could write a gimp clone in it with just a few thousand lines of code, i suspect | 04:13 |
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| CellarDoor | ello | 04:46 |
| jpatrick | lo | 04:47 |
| CellarDoor | hi jpatrick | 04:48 |
| CellarDoor | could someone tell me how to get the xserver and login screen to start at start up, as mines not doing that atm | 04:52 |
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| jpatrick | startx | 04:53 |
| metalhen | what about kubuntu and shfs? is shfs build in kubuntu own kernel? | 04:53 |
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| CellarDoor | yes jpatrick, I type startx and kde starts up but I'd like to have my login come back up at startup | 04:54 |
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| CellarDoor | I know its a n00b question but I just like having that graphical login | 04:56 |
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| Mustafa^^ | Hi guys | 05:07 |
| CellarDoor | hi | 05:08 |
| jpatrick | lo | 05:08 |
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| confrey | hi everybody | 05:37 |
| jpatrick | lo | 05:38 |
| jjesse | lo | 05:38 |
| confrey | my laptop doesn't sleep using kde interface; it sleeps but doesn't resume; I can't sleep using keyboard; what can I do? | 05:41 |
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| nikkia | heh | 05:58 |
| === nikkia just got email from play saying i can preorder an xbox 360, too late, i did, 3 months ago | ||
| Brian_Mushroom | test | 05:59 |
| nikkia | hmmm, intersesting, play are projecting 279, HMV have theirs at 299 | 05:59 |
| nikkia | wha?? actually, thats including a bunch of add-ons, 209 for the base xbox 360 | 06:00 |
| nikkia | wooohoo, and my pre-order has dropped from 399 to 279 :) | 06:04 |
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| jjesse | saw the article on slashdot today | 06:21 |
| jjesse | the base price will not include a hard drive or wirelss controllers | 06:21 |
| nikkia | jesse, well, if you don't *need* them, the casual gamers that aren't likely to pay 279 will have an option, at least | 06:22 |
| nikkia | jesse, me, i'll be sticking with my 279 pre-order :) | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | what? | 06:23 |
| _matthew | what's this? | 06:23 |
| nikkia | _matthew/Tm_T, Xbox 360 prices confirmed at 210 for no-HDD/wired-controller and 280 for HDD+wireless | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | ... | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | xbox? some kind of console with linux? ;p | 06:24 |
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| _matthew | the 360 will be cracked....... | 06:28 |
| _matthew | linux will run on it | 06:28 |
| Tm_T | know | 06:28 |
| Tm_T | I don't think nikkia will use it long time without linux =) | 06:29 |
| nikkia | Tm_T, actually, i will | 06:29 |
| nikkia | Tm_T, i've run linux on consoles before, its utterly pointless, i have dedicated PCs for that, where the xbox excels is in decent games :P | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | bah | 06:30 |
| _matthew | the type of processor it uses isnt that good for general computerness | 06:30 |
| nikkia | _matthew: erm, yes, it is, reasonably so | 06:30 |
| nikkia | _matthew: the 'oh noes, its in-order' is FUD | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | where's all adventure and excitment | 06:30 |
| nikkia | PC processors were in-order for a LONG time, and they managed just fine | 06:31 |
| _matthew | ok | 06:31 |
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| _matthew | who wants to help me get java working?:) | 06:31 |
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| Tm_T | nobody, go home, kid | 06:32 |
| apokryphos | !java | 06:32 |
| ubotu | [java] to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java | 06:32 |
| Tm_T | ;--P | 06:32 |
| nikkia | _matthew: let me give you an example, a lot of people run linux on ARM cpus, *most* ARM cpus are in-order | 06:32 |
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| nikkia | in fact, the only OoO ARM is one that Marvell (they of the dodgy 'they're a pain to setup in linux' network chipsets) have recently (within the last couple of months) announced | 06:33 |
| _matthew | well only 256 ram in 360 isnt there? | 06:33 |
| nikkia | _matthew: 512MB | 06:33 |
| Tm_T | ready for KDE then =) | 06:34 |
| nikkia | _matthew: and a bit more pidgeon holed away in the GPU | 06:34 |
| nikkia | (the GPU has 10MB of EDRAM that has 96 custom floating point processors on board the RAM) | 06:34 |
| _matthew | ah fair enough then | 06:34 |
| _matthew | i'll get one when the price drops abit | 06:34 |
| nikkia | the GPU's floating point processors handle all blur (motion, depth of field, etc) without causing any impact on the rest of the system | 06:35 |
| _matthew | does general linux use benifit from 3 cpus? | 06:35 |
| nikkia | _matthew: yes | 06:35 |
| nikkia | it also benefits from the 'lots of registers' mentality of the powerpc :) | 06:36 |
| _matthew | hopefully it will be able to do a decent pc res then | 06:36 |
| nikkia | _matthew: there was a rumour that MS were going to offer a VGA cable for it, but i don't know if thats still true | 06:37 |
| _matthew | could always just convert hdtv to vga, worked well on xbox 1 | 06:37 |
| nikkia | aha | 06:37 |
| nikkia | 'MS has confirmed that a VGA cable will be available seperately' (thats from today's press) | 06:38 |
| _matthew | ah cool:) | 06:38 |
| nikkia | _matthew: ever tried it? | 06:38 |
| _matthew | tried what? | 06:38 |
| nikkia | _matthew: component -> VGA looks like crud on my xbox | 06:38 |
| _matthew | x2vga? | 06:38 |
| nikkia | but thats partially because MS crippled the component output on the UK xbox | 06:39 |
| _matthew | mine was modded, so i changed to ntsc, and all was clear:P | 06:39 |
| _matthew | nikkia, if you are confident with iopening ure xbox, you can mod for zero cost | 06:40 |
| nikkia | _matthew: i wanted to be able to play on live... | 06:40 |
| _matthew | aah | 06:40 |
| nikkia | and yes, i know you can use mods that can be switched off, but its too much hassle to remember | 06:40 |
| _matthew | ever heard of xlink kai? | 06:40 |
| nikkia | _matthew: not even remotely as good as live | 06:41 |
| _matthew | does the job for me | 06:41 |
| _matthew | and i did have live | 06:41 |
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| Poromies | is there any way to speed up amaroK's "update collection/database" thingy? | 06:42 |
| apokryphos | Poromies: yes, make it do it automatically | 06:43 |
| _matthew | have your music on a fast partition / disk? | 06:43 |
| Poromies | i have 120gb mp3 database on a USB 2.0 HD and it's taking ages to "creating database" :( | 06:43 |
| apokryphos | oO | 06:43 |
| apokryphos | the original creation will always take some time, I'd imagine | 06:43 |
| _matthew | do it overnight? | 06:43 |
| apokryphos | especially with 120 megs... | 06:43 |
| apokryphos | *gigs | 06:43 |
| Poromies | heh, hope it doesn't do this every week but rather update db when needed :) | 06:44 |
| apokryphos | You can select it to automatically update, but it only changes where there's changes | 06:45 |
| apokryphos | it never does a whole rescan unless you request it | 06:45 |
| _matthew | i installed the .bin of java, but Azureus can't find it, what exactly is javadir? | 06:46 |
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| Poromies | well thats good then.. and in case you are wondering, i'm into DJ-stuff, and i have quite many records after few years of "searious" collecting :] | 06:46 |
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| Poromies | though not even half of them are in mp3's or ogg's yet, may a third or so | 06:46 |
| apokryphos | It will take quite some time to fetch album covers, too ;-) | 06:46 |
| _matthew | and i have pointed it to where i installed java | 06:47 |
| Poromies | gg, it does that too? sweet \o/ | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: easier way to install java is trash that and enable hoary-extras, then install the sun j2re package | 06:47 |
| apokryphos | it will set up everything in the appropriate place, too | 06:47 |
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| _matthew | ah ok | 06:49 |
| _matthew | is there an easy way as root to delete a folder, even if it isnt empty? | 06:49 |
| spiral | 'lu | 06:49 |
| spiral | _matthew: rm -fr folder | 06:49 |
| _matthew | ta | 06:49 |
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| _matthew | so i add hoary-extras to sources.list? | 06:52 |
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| apokryphos | _matthew: yes; add deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted ...to /etc/apt/sources.list | 06:56 |
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| jpatrick | sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list | 06:56 |
| _matthew | yep doen that | 06:56 |
| apokryphos | whoop | 06:56 |
| _matthew | i prefer nano:P | 06:56 |
| apokryphos | deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted | 06:56 |
| apokryphos | ...that instead | 06:57 |
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| apokryphos | jpatrick: no, you shouldn't use sudo <guiapp> ever =) | 06:57 |
| _matthew | so this semi legal site contains realplayer stuff extra? | 06:57 |
| _matthew | *etc? | 06:57 |
| apokryphos | Well, illegal. Not sure if it has realplayer | 06:58 |
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| hater2win | Hey guys, I'm kind of in a crisis, lol. School starts in a few days and I need to print out my Unofficial transcript to take to the school to get registered. But I can't get my printer to work. What do I need to do? | 06:58 |
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| jpatrick | What printer do you have? | 06:59 |
| hater2win | jpatrick: HP psc 120 xi | 06:59 |
| hater2win | it's connected via USB | 06:59 |
| jpatrick | Have you set it up via Control Center? | 07:00 |
| jpatrick | I have HP PSC 1315 | 07:00 |
| jpatrick | it works fine :p | 07:00 |
| hater2win | I've tried but I have no clue which USB thing to use | 07:00 |
| jpatrick | Any | 07:01 |
| hater2win | i tried a few diff ones but none work. Even then when it loads up the screen to choose a printer type, the 1210 xi isnt there, just 1210 or 1210 hpijs | 07:02 |
| hater2win | jpatrick: what should i do? | 07:03 |
| hater2win | i tried just using the 1210, but it wont print | 07:04 |
| jpatrick | my HP PSC 1315 works with the HP PSC 1310 driver :-/ | 07:04 |
| hater2win | O | 07:06 |
| hater2win | M | 07:06 |
| hater2win | F | 07:06 |
| hater2win | G | 07:06 |
| jpatrick | :? | 07:06 |
| === hater2win is such a n00bstick | ||
| hater2win | the freaking USB cable wasn't plugged in! | 07:06 |
| jpatrick | That explains why it wasn't working | 07:07 |
| hater2win | I would think so. | 07:07 |
| hater2win | Holy crap. | 07:07 |
| hater2win | I'm an idiot | 07:07 |
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| hater2win | Thats like | 07:07 |
| hater2win | the first thing you are supposed to check for everytime, but you never do because I've been working with comps for years and know that I have all my bases covered. | 07:07 |
| hater2win | wow. | 07:08 |
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| _matthew | LOL | 07:08 |
| _matthew | if i have a shortcut to a terminal command, how do i make it run silently? | 07:10 |
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| hater2win | _matthew: im not sure to be honest | 07:12 |
| hater2win | _matthew: im still trying to figure out how to make shortcuts to terminal commands | 07:12 |
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| _matthew | ah ok, im just trying to make it as smooth as possible | 07:13 |
| hater2win | understandably so | 07:13 |
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| hater2win | you might be able to open up the proccess viewer | 07:14 |
| hater2win | and tell it to run silently there | 07:14 |
| hater2win | im not sure if its a permanent cmd though | 07:14 |
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| _matthew | well its azeures, so it does a bit of stuff in a shell, then oipens up the gui | 07:14 |
| _matthew | but i dont need to see the shell stuff | 07:14 |
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| hater2win | yeah | 07:16 |
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| _matthew | and i need the icon to have the proper graphic:P | 07:16 |
| hater2win | lol, i dont even want to get into changing graphics, theres like images stored in a million places | 07:17 |
| hater2win | and frankly, im scared to touch any of them | 07:17 |
| hater2win | with linux, doing anything with root could make your hard work go to shit | 07:17 |
| === [ITA] MisterX is back. | ||
| _matthew | lol no root involved, i have a png file, just want to put it on an icon | 07:17 |
| jpatrick | yo [ITA] MisterX ! | 07:17 |
| jpatrick | ;) | 07:18 |
| [ITA] MisterX | hi :) | 07:18 |
| hater2win | _matthew: oh i see what you mean | 07:18 |
| PHZN`Away | _matthew, are you talking about an icon for the desktop or menus? | 07:19 |
| _matthew | desktop | 07:19 |
| PHZN`Away | Alright, right click on the icon, and select properties | 07:20 |
| _matthew | i got that far:P | 07:20 |
| PHZN`Away | Click on the icon in the properties menu | 07:20 |
| _matthew | yea i worked it out:P | 07:21 |
| PHZN`Away | Then click other icons, and then browse | 07:21 |
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| PHZN`Away | You got it working? | 07:21 |
| _matthew | yarha | 07:21 |
| _matthew | :) | 07:21 |
| PHZN`Away | Alright, cool. | 07:21 |
| sonix_ | Hi there | 07:21 |
| hater2win | ok, so how do i set something to a terminal command? | 07:22 |
| _matthew | yea i wanted to know as well | 07:22 |
| sonix_ | I just installed Kubuntu and everything works out fine | 07:22 |
| hater2win | sonix_: good job | 07:22 |
| sonix_ | ;) the only Problem I'm having right now is I can't logon as root | 07:23 |
| _matthew | hater: properties 4 icon, advanced | 07:23 |
| apokryphos | sonix_: that's a good thing | 07:23 |
| sonix_ | I did a little rtfm but none of the solutions works | 07:23 |
| _matthew | sonix, you dont need to, put sudo before a command makes it root | 07:23 |
| hater2win | sonix_: yep, just use sudo | 07:23 |
| _matthew | PHZN, how can i execute a terminal command silently from an icon? | 07:24 |
| sonix_ | ah okay trying that right now | 07:24 |
| hater2win | i like sudo, it kind of FORCES you to learn commands, lol | 07:24 |
| sonix_ | ur probably right about that | 07:24 |
| sonix_ | I was using Suse up until now | 07:25 |
| _matthew | urgh lol | 07:25 |
| sonix_ | then I switched to Debian | 07:25 |
| sonix_ | and now to Kubuntu | 07:25 |
| pax | !sudo | 07:25 |
| ubotu | from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo | 07:25 |
| _matthew | so anyone know how to silently execute a terminal command from an icon? | 07:26 |
| sonix_ | the only reason I need root priviledges is so I can setup my WLAN card | 07:26 |
| jpatrick | then do: kdesu kcontrol | 07:27 |
| apokryphos | some of the ideas in ktorrent are looking swe-ee-t now. You can select which files to download from a torrent :D | 07:27 |
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| _matthew | lol | 07:28 |
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| _matthew | why not just use azeures? | 07:28 |
| hater2win | sonix_: hit alt+f2 and then type kdesu kcontrol | 07:28 |
| pax | never got it work, most of'em dead links. | 07:28 |
| hater2win | dead links? | 07:29 |
| hater2win | did you install jre? | 07:29 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: it would be really nice to have a kde alternative. Azureus is CPU-intensive, and by the looks of things ktorrent will have some features azureus doesn't | 07:29 |
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| sonix_ | I know how to get to the control center | 07:29 |
| _matthew | ah ok, ill switch when it surpasses azeures then | 07:30 |
| sonix_ | and the card is listed | 07:30 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: it's worth trying out now (at least -- if not converting entirely); there's an ubuntu repository you can add for it.... | 07:30 |
| pax | hater2win: I lost you, come again | 07:30 |
| sonix_ | well I guess I'll figure out the rest myself, but thanks for the sudo tipp | 07:31 |
| hater2win | pax: did you install JRE? (Java Runtime Environment) | 07:31 |
| _matthew | ive just got azeures working properly 2 mins ago, and i like all the advanced features:P | 07:31 |
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| hater2win | sonix_: ive never configured a WLAN card in linux, before, sorry I can't be of much more help | 07:31 |
| hater2win | pax: without JRE, azureus is useless. not only that, but where were you finding torrents at? | 07:32 |
| pax | _matthew: I'm a linux masochist, I don't like apps that work outta the box | 07:32 |
| pax | hater2win: for what? | 07:32 |
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| hater2win | linux | 07:32 |
| hater2win | and win alike | 07:32 |
| _matthew | lol | 07:33 |
| sonix_ | na thats okay I don't expect people to give me exact directions | 07:33 |
| sonix_ | I guess its got something to do with the fact that my AP is using WPA | 07:33 |
| hater2win | but you said links were dead? did you mean links to download or torrents? | 07:33 |
| pax | hater2win: who said I use azureus, are you confusing me with someone else you were helping? | 07:33 |
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| hater2win | pax: yeh, i probably thought you were saying something different than you really were. im sorry. | 07:35 |
| pax | hater2win: I was saying the most of the links in ktorrents search option are inactive/dead | 07:36 |
| hater2win | oooh | 07:36 |
| hater2win | lol | 07:36 |
| hater2win | my bad | 07:36 |
| pax | ktorrent* | 07:36 |
| _matthew | torrent sites go down all the time | 07:36 |
| hater2win | i use only 3 torrent sites that work for me all the times | 07:36 |
| hater2win | time* | 07:36 |
| apokryphos | pax: bittorrent.com is a bad idea for looking for torrents in general | 07:37 |
| apokryphos | most popular is probably torrentspy.com | 07:37 |
| pax | it's cool :c) | 07:37 |
| apokryphos | pax: it doesn't indicate seeders/ d/ls etc... | 07:37 |
| apokryphos | search options aren't very advanced, neither | 07:37 |
| pax | ktorrent, has an intergrated torrent.com search | 07:38 |
| sonix_ | any of u every try Dlink PCIMCIA Wifi cards with Linux? | 07:38 |
| _matthew | mininova.org | 07:38 |
| pax | I don't need torrentspy.com or torrent.com, I have enough pr0n (jes kidding) | 07:39 |
| _matthew | lolsy | 07:39 |
| hater2win | i would say the most popular torrent site was either piratebay.org | 07:40 |
| hater2win | or torrentspy | 07:40 |
| apokryphos | pax: it's bittorrent.com -- yes. Lame search afaics | 07:40 |
| apokryphos | aha! KTorrent has multiple search engines -- nice. | 07:41 |
| apokryphos | torrentspy included | 07:41 |
| _matthew | sheesh azoreus EATS cpu | 07:41 |
| _matthew | and ram - 300mb | 07:42 |
| apokryphos | indeed | 07:42 |
| redguy_ | how to enable debian submenu in my K-menu ? | 07:42 |
| apokryphos | particularly if you have many torrents. When I have 8/9 my system used to struggle ;-) | 07:42 |
| _matthew | is there integration between konquerer and ktorrent? eg konquerer realising it should give the torrent to ktorrent? | 07:43 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: haven't checked yet; it's of course easily alterable if it isn't | 07:45 |
| pax | redguy_: update-menus | 07:45 |
| apokryphos | just change file-associations | 07:45 |
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| _matthew | ill try it out now then, ass kubuntu has used swaap for the first tiem using azoreus | 07:51 |
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| dazjorz | Heya | 07:54 |
| _matthew | howdy | 07:54 |
| dazjorz | :) | 07:54 |
| dazjorz | I'm banned at #ubuntu so i'm talking here now | 07:54 |
| dazjorz | :) | 07:54 |
| dazjorz | is that ok ? | 07:55 |
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| apokryphos | dazjorz: what for? For the time being of course, but ban-personalities have a tendency to stick ;-) | 07:55 |
| dazjorz | hey umm,... i forgot what I wanted to ask now | 07:55 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: I firstly got +q'ed for 2 things: 1. talking offtopic (but I stopt with that after a warning) 2. asking how to de-ignore someone 2 times. | 07:56 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: That was 3 days ago. | 07:56 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: So I asked Seveas to -q me, he didnt want too, and I said it was unfair etc | 07:56 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: and that's why he banned me | 07:57 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: Some ops misuse their powers... | 07:57 |
| apokryphos | Some ops don't | 07:57 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: These ops are cool | 07:57 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: but,... there are still too much ops who do | 07:57 |
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| dazjorz | Oh yes I remember what I wanted to ask | 07:58 |
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| dazjorz | For Wine / Cedega... I've got some ISO's, how do I put them as CD-drives in Cedega ? | 07:58 |
| apokryphos | dazjorz: flooding sticks out often, too ;-) | 07:58 |
| dazjorz | Does Alcohol 120% work for that ? | 07:58 |
| dazjorz | apokryphos: sticks out ? | 07:58 |
| apokryphos | correct | 07:59 |
| redguy | thanks pax | 07:59 |
| dazjorz | can I use alcohol 120% to create drives that also work when I run cedega again ? | 07:59 |
| dazjorz | or can I connect a Wine drive to an ISO ? | 07:59 |
| nikkia | nnrrrrg | 08:00 |
| _matthew | apokryphos: ktorrent is better than i expected:) | 08:00 |
| nikkia | i hate hour long 'what have you done this week?' phone calls | 08:00 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: For these calls there is a red button that means, hang up ;) | 08:00 |
| nikkia | you can't really say 'well, monday i did FA cos i couldn't be bothered, deal with it!' | 08:00 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: for me it generally varies depending on who I'm having them with 8) | 08:00 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: i think thats even more risky than the honest route :P | 08:01 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: my boss :P | 08:01 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: that means you're going to be either fired or promoted soon ;) | 08:01 |
| dazjorz | ^^ | 08:01 |
| _matthew | :P | 08:01 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: a few seconds of akward pauses is enough for my boss to say "so.... I have these and these shifts"... "ok, see ya" | 08:02 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: i was promised a promotion a few months ago, nothing has come of it yet | 08:02 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: subtle hints, subtle hints | 08:02 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i'm not that bothered about the promotion, tbh | 08:02 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: Well, good luck with these calls then ;) | 08:02 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: i was asked if i wanted to take on management of the dev team, i shrugged and said 'i dunno' :P | 08:03 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: would it be more work? | 08:03 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: would it even be possible tod o more work than you do now? ;-) | 08:03 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: yeah, which is why my boss is trying to offload it on someone else :P | 08:03 |
| nikkia | apokryphos: not without inventing a time machine | 08:03 |
| dazjorz | how do I mount an ISO ? | 08:03 |
| nikkia | 'oh great, now you want me to spend time inventing a time machine too?!?' :P | 08:03 |
| _matthew | lol | 08:04 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: it's on my TODO list; and you *know* it's gonna happen since it's in Kontact (never wrong) | 08:04 |
| nikkia | i thought the emails about my project status at 4am might have been a clue, but noone seems to be taking it | 08:04 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: But, if you take on management of the dev team, you only have to tell them what they have to do | 08:04 |
| derek | hey, are there any plans for newer hula packages? | 08:04 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: What kind of things do you do btw ? | 08:04 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: game development | 08:04 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: Cool! Great! Nice! Game development! Do you make Linux games too ? :D | 08:05 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: its a bit more niche than you might think... | 08:05 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: my uncle actually has it best; he's responsible for all computers in a part of Greece for a phone company. He employed 8 people, taught them what he knows, and makes them do all the work | 08:05 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: the games are to run in gambling terminals, and yes, my current project runs on linux (using java :/) | 08:06 |
| apokryphos | nikkia: he rarely ever goes into work. If they ever need them, he says he'll come in the next day, by which time the problem has gone 8) | 08:06 |
| derek | /join #ubuntu-motu | 08:06 |
| apokryphos | dazjorz: mounting ISOs... check the kubuntu guide | 08:06 |
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| apokryphos | active dev(s). Always great to see. | 08:08 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: I would love to manage a dev team :D it seems like a super job to me :D | 08:09 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: what do you do now ? | 08:09 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: software engineer | 08:09 |
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| dazjorz | nikkia: what does a software engineer do ? | 08:09 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: i mean, exactly | 08:10 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: same as a programmer, but they have more pay and a better credit rating :P | 08:10 |
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| apokryphos | Just realised that LimeWire and Gimp are the only non-kde apps I ever use now. Excellent 8) | 08:14 |
| jpatrick | I only use Linpopup | 08:15 |
| jpatrick | (non-kde (I think)) | 08:15 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: is it as great as I think it is ? | 08:15 |
| apokryphos | linpopup: nothing appropriate. | 08:15 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: probably not | 08:15 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: what kind of games do you make ? | 08:15 |
| apokryphos | jpatrick: what is it? | 08:16 |
| _matthew | is limewire as slow as it is on windows?(java being crap) | 08:16 |
| jpatrick | Clone of WinPopUp | 08:16 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: slow in loading or slow in downloading | 08:16 |
| jpatrick | LAN chat | 08:16 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: it's the best conventional p2p client I know.... | 08:16 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: as i said, games for gambling terminals, roulette, poker, fruit/slot machines, etc | 08:16 |
| apokryphos | jpatrick: oh | 08:16 |
| dazjorz | hey btw, who are the 6 people on the Ubuntu cd's | 08:17 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: Uhh,...Ok,... | 08:17 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: Have you ever tried to make 3D games ? | 08:17 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: yes | 08:17 |
| dazjorz | nikkia: And ? | 08:17 |
| nikkia | dazjorz: and what? there's not much real difference in terms of what the work involves :) | 08:18 |
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| _matthew | slow in loading and it uses lots of resources | 08:21 |
| apokryphos | _matthew: it's less CPU-intensive than azureus easily, here, but it is Java. With regard to speed, I've never seen a problem there. I'd be hard-pressed to keep downloads going... | 08:22 |
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| _matthew | its just nice to not have bloat | 08:23 |
| _matthew | what is artsd and why is it using 200mb of ram? | 08:23 |
| brk3 | has noone made packages of the new amarok yet..? | 08:23 |
| apokryphos | It's not really a bloat at all. | 08:23 |
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| _matthew | what is artsd and kio_http? | 08:26 |
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| apokryphos | _matthew: is there a reason for why you haven't checked google first at least? | 08:29 |
| _matthew | sorry yea | 08:30 |
| sonix_ | Is there more than one file you have to edit to be able to logon as root | 08:31 |
| sonix_ | ? | 08:31 |
| _matthew | sudo should be fine sonix | 08:31 |
| sonix_ | because setting allowrootlogin in /etc/kde3/kdm doesn't do the trick | 08:31 |
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| sonix_ | don't get me wrong :) I believe you when you say sudo is fine, It's just that I'd like to be able to login as root | 08:32 |
| apokryphos | sonix_: why? It's quite unsafe... | 08:33 |
| apokryphos | defeates half the point of the linux filesystem if you use root, really, by default. | 08:33 |
| apokryphos | s/linux/unix | 08:33 |
| sonix_ | I dont intend to use it by default | 08:34 |
| apokryphos | sonix_: why do you want to use it? | 08:34 |
| sonix_ | Now that I've installed the system there still is stuff to do, like setting up my WiFi card | 08:35 |
| sonix_ | look at it this way | 08:35 |
| caller | Hello, I am trying to burn my entire hard drive to a few CD disks, using a program called Mondo. I will then install this exact system on 19 other computers. I ran into a problem, however. This howto that I am following has no troubleshooting, and mondo fails to burn the CD #1, I retried around 10 times with 3 different parameters, but no cigar. Anyone have any ideas? This is the howto: http://phazeman.mail333.com/Mondo_Rescue_CD_HOWTO.htm And this i | 08:36 |
| caller | s the command I used that SHOULD be right by all means. mondoarchive -Oc 48 -s 700m -d 1,0,0 -5 -l GRUB -f /dev/hda Any help is appreciated! Thanks! | 08:36 |
| apokryphos | sonix_: you should use kdesu to run any app under root perms | 08:36 |
| sonix_ | okay | 08:37 |
| sonix_ | then one another question :-) | 08:37 |
| nikkia | what we need, is a device that gives users an electric shock every time they make a typo as root, that'd soon cut down on the 'how do i enable root' questions :P | 08:37 |
| sonix_ | do you know how to run a Wifi card without Linux drivers :-) | 08:37 |
| jpatrick | ndiswrapper | 08:37 |
| sonix_ | yep I tried this | 08:38 |
| sonix_ | but the setup.ini can't be read | 08:38 |
| jpatrick | It's meant to be a .inf file | 08:38 |
| sonix_ | ist a Dlink Card | 08:38 |
| sonix_ | Pcmcia | 08:38 |
| sonix_ | if I type ndiswrapper -l | 08:40 |
| sonix_ | I get the message: setup: invalid driver | 08:40 |
| sonix_ | ...mh could be possible that this is the install ini file and not the driver ini file ... I'm stupid at all ... | 08:41 |
| sonix_ | okay forget that question ;-) | 08:42 |
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| Mustafa^^ | Hello | 08:44 |
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| Mustafa^^ | How can I install KSplash Themes? | 08:44 |
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| arcanistherogue | Hey, i have a problem mounting my Cdrom drive | 08:45 |
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| arcanistherogue | i have the UT2004 install disc in the drive, and when i do "sudo mount /cdrom" it says no medium found | 08:45 |
| arcanistherogue | and i tryed /media/cdrom, /dev/hda, nothing worked. | 08:46 |
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| caller | Mustafa^^, you still looking to install KSplash themes? | 08:46 |
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| Mustafa^^ | I think your cd has an error | 08:46 |
| arcanistherogue | Mustafa^^: how do i fix said error >_> | 08:46 |
| Mustafa^^ | yes caller | 08:46 |
| caller | Mustafa^^, your own or some from KDELook or something similar? | 08:46 |
| caller | arcanistherogue, sorry, I hate Ubuntu's cdrom mounting, so unpredictable :( sorry no idea | 08:47 |
| Mustafa^^ | KDElook | 08:47 |
| apokryphos | Moodin engine is good for KSplash | 08:47 |
| arcanistherogue | aw CRAP | 08:47 |
| caller | Mustafa^^, ah, a tar.gz you have then? | 08:47 |
| arcanistherogue | doesnt that just rape your bum! | 08:47 |
| arcanistherogue | i want my UT2004 fix :C | 08:47 |
| Mustafa^^ | yes caller | 08:47 |
| Mustafa^^ | How can I install it | 08:47 |
| caller | Mustafa^^, can you get to control center? | 08:48 |
| Mustafa^^ | yeah | 08:48 |
| caller | ok, then go to appearance and themes | 08:48 |
| caller | and then click splash screen | 08:48 |
| Mustafa^^ | yes | 08:48 |
| caller | then click add | 08:48 |
| caller | and locate the tar.gz | 08:48 |
| Mustafa^^ | ok | 08:48 |
| Mustafa^^ | It says an error | 08:49 |
| caller | that should do it | 08:49 |
| caller | hmm | 08:49 |
| caller | ok, try extracting the tar.gz | 08:49 |
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| Mustafa^^ | I tried | 08:49 |
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| Mustafa^^ | But same error | 08:49 |
| caller | move the theme to /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/ | 08:50 |
| caller | the whole folder | 08:50 |
| caller | what is the name of the theme btw? | 08:50 |
| apokryphos | or ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash/Themes | 08:50 |
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| apokryphos | you may have to alter the Theme.rc file -- easy to do. | 08:50 |
| Mustafa^^ | Gear | 08:51 |
| caller | yea just make sure the names of the Theme.rc file are the same as the theme's folder name | 08:51 |
| caller | otherwise it won't show up | 08:51 |
| caller | then when you go back into the kcontrol center, you should see it there | 08:51 |
| jpatrick | What's the file you have to edit? | 08:52 |
| Mustafa^^ | ok thanx caller I will try | 08:52 |
| caller | jpatrick, Theme.rc | 08:52 |
| caller | Mustafa^^, np, any probs, let me know, but I gotta get back to work now so figure it out if you can ;) | 08:52 |
| jpatrick | where's Theme.rc ? | 08:53 |
| apokryphos | jpatrick: in the respective theme's folder | 08:54 |
| jpatrick | I'm trying to install a KDM theme tho | 08:54 |
| apokryphos | sometimes (more rarely) they don't include it at all, and want you to do it yourself ;-) | 08:54 |
| caller | jpatrick, oh, will be different most likely | 08:54 |
| caller | not sure what KDM is | 08:55 |
| jpatrick | K Display Manager | 08:55 |
| apokryphos | kdm theme... that's completely different | 08:55 |
| jpatrick | http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40 | 08:55 |
| jpatrick | tried that^^ | 08:55 |
| apokryphos | you have to put the folder somewhere and then point to it from kdm.rc | 08:55 |
| jpatrick | didn't work | 08:55 |
| apokryphos | *kdmrc | 08:56 |
| apokryphos | that's a busted howto; kdmrc in $KDEHOME wouldn't do anything :| | 08:56 |
| EasterSunshine | woo kdevelop is freaking awesome! my first time using it | 08:56 |
| jpatrick | KDevelop? | 08:56 |
| jpatrick | I prefer KDevelop3 | 08:57 |
| apokryphos | jpatrick: use the one in /etc/kde3/kdm/ | 08:57 |
| regeya | oboy | 08:57 |
| jpatrick | EasterSunshine: Have you tried: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 ? | 08:57 |
| EasterSunshine | crap! i'm using an old version | 08:58 |
| EasterSunshine | that means kdevelop3 gets even better? ^_^ | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | =) | 08:58 |
| EasterSunshine | this makes me want to code | 08:58 |
| jpatrick | alot better | 08:58 |
| jpatrick | apokryphos: what part exactly do I edit? | 08:59 |
| jpatrick | ah found it | 08:59 |
| jpatrick | I think | 08:59 |
| apokryphos | jpatrick: it's the Theme=/location/to/theme | 09:00 |
| apokryphos | Kubuntu should already have one there... you should replace it. | 09:00 |
| jpatrick | Yeah, I found that | 09:00 |
| jpatrick | so I have to cp the downloaded themes to usr/share/... | 09:01 |
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| apokryphos | jpatrick: nope, you can make it point to anywhere from there | 09:02 |
| jpatrick | ok | 09:02 |
| jpatrick | brb | 09:02 |
| apokryphos | jpatrick: for example mine is /home/dw/themes/splash/LoveKDE | 09:02 |
| jpatrick | testing | 09:02 |
| apokryphos | he didn't need to logout for that =) | 09:02 |
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| apokryphos | no wait... kdm theme. Yes he did oO | 09:03 |
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| jpatrick | okay... | 09:05 |
| jpatrick | just need to change the splash-screen now | 09:05 |
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| manuel_ | Hi dudes, how do i disable the paste function when I click the mouse middle button??? | 09:06 |
| transgress | anyone have an ipod shuffle? | 09:07 |
| === ztonzy wonders why anyone would do that...supergreat feature in linux/unix :) | ||
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| transgress | omg why would you wanna do that manuel_ ? that's the best thing about linux | 09:08 |
| transgress | THE BEST! | 09:08 |
| manuel_ | It gives me problems when dealing with code :S sometimes I hit the 3rd button by accident | 09:09 |
| transgress | edit undo | 09:09 |
| manuel_ | It is xorg stuff, isn't it? | 09:09 |
| insanekane | manuel_: try ControlCentre/SystemSettings->Mouse ? | 09:09 |
| manuel_ | edit undo edit undo doesn't work for me because i dont know when I hit the 3rd button | 09:10 |
| manuel_ | insanekane: there is nothing about the clipboard there :( | 09:11 |
| insanekane | manuel_: hmm yes | 09:11 |
| manuel_ | Control Center->Peripherals->Mouse ???? | 09:12 |
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| manuel_ | doesnt seem to be there | 09:14 |
| dazjorz | hey umm | 09:15 |
| dazjorz | is there a graphical RAR program for Kubuntu ? | 09:15 |
| jpatrick | Ark | 09:15 |
| EasterSunshine | winrar thru wine | 09:16 |
| EasterSunshine | ark would be my first choice, howeer | 09:16 |
| dazjorz | ark can't run RAR's ...? | 09:19 |
| dazjorz | i mean, open | 09:21 |
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| nietek-8-72 | hello world :-) | 09:22 |
| apokryphos | hi nietek-8-72 | 09:24 |
| nietek-8-72 | whats up? | 09:24 |
| apokryphos | nietek-8-72: not a lot. Reading a bit on the net, playing with KTorrent and listening to music ;-) | 09:25 |
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| nietek-8-72 | Well, @ll the same everywhere... :-) | 09:28 |
| dazjorz | i'm trying to get WoW to work | 09:31 |
| dazjorz | private server | 09:31 |
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| nemlah | hey kubuntu fans | 09:35 |
| nietek-8-72 | ok dudes need to work - see ya | 09:36 |
| nemlah | i am having a problem ... my tv card is not working | 09:36 |
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| _Mose_ | hello, how to change privilegies of mounted hd (fat32) so i could not just view but modify files there? is it possible? | 09:49 |
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| KWizzard | how can I disable that startup dialog to choose the channel in Konversation? | 09:52 |
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| CyberMad | hello.. | 10:00 |
| KWizzard | hi | 10:02 |
| _Mose_ | hi | 10:03 |
| CyberMad | i want to partitioning my HardDisk, i have 40 GB.. for 1st partition (15 GB, primary, ext3, mount /), 2nd partition (24 GB, primary, ext3, /home), 3rd partition (1 GB, swap), is that correct? | 10:05 |
| CyberMad | i want use it for PC Router (NAT) and home use | 10:05 |
| caller | I have another question. Is there a way to back up an entire system to a series of bootable CDs? So I can boot on a seperate, same hardware machine and have it turn out exactly like this machine? | 10:05 |
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| Adkron | Is anyone else having problems when using the configuration manager to change things such as time | 10:06 |
| Adkron | It asks for my pw I type it, and it goes away, but I still can't change anyting | 10:07 |
| Adkron | If I do type in the wrong pw it tells me | 10:07 |
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| nikkia | Adkron: press alt-f2, and run kdesu kcontrol instead | 10:10 |
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| CyberMad | does kubuntu support samba? | 10:10 |
| supernix | yes CyberMad | 10:11 |
| caller | Anyone see my q? | 10:11 |
| CyberMad | ok, so i don't need to create FAT partition | 10:11 |
| CyberMad | caller yes.. | 10:11 |
| Adkron | nikkia, thanks I'll try | 10:11 |
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| CyberMad | caller maybe there is a software like Norton Ghost in linux.. | 10:14 |
| caller | CyberMad, there is, but that's not what I'm looking for | 10:14 |
| caller | CyberMad, doesn't that use network? | 10:14 |
| nikkia | CyberMad: the only thing i can think of, is the debian 'bootcd' package, but it can't split across discs and probably isn't suitable for restoring from | 10:14 |
| CyberMad | caller nope.. Norton Ghost can be bootable cd (cmiiw) | 10:15 |
| caller | CyberMad, no network involved at all? | 10:15 |
| caller | I would need at least 3 disks, no? | 10:15 |
| nikkia | the problem with norton ghost, is that it is incredibly invasive | 10:15 |
| nikkia | but thats symantec software these days, installs once useful app, and 300 pieces of spyware :/ | 10:16 |
| CyberMad | caller i believe i saw it there is bootable via network (because i did about 1 year ago) | 10:16 |
| caller | CyberMad, exactly...that's NOT what I want | 10:16 |
| caller | I need CDs and ONLY cds...otherwise useless to me :/ | 10:16 |
| nikkia | caller, just because it CAN, doesn't mean it MUST :) | 10:17 |
| CyberMad | yes.. i'm talking about cd ;| | 10:17 |
| caller | Oh, ah sry | 10:17 |
| nikkia | caller, i think you're going to find any solution you find that does what you want, is going to offer other features you don't need :P | 10:17 |
| CyberMad | [03:15] <CyberMad> caller nope.. Norton Ghost can be bootable cd (cmiiw) | 10:17 |
| caller | well ah, not sure how to get that :/ | 10:17 |
| caller | Mondo is perfect, but I can't get it to work | 10:17 |
| nikkia | CyberMad: i really wouldn't recommend ghost, even if it does do linux backups.... | 10:18 |
| CyberMad | maybe the last way.. learn how to create distro like knoppix | 10:18 |
| caller | Well, don't want it bootable liveCD heh...and DEFINITELY don't have time to develop a installer or anything | 10:19 |
| caller | nor the skillz | 10:19 |
| nikkia | caller, thats what debian's 'bootcd' package does | 10:20 |
| nikkia | it takes a working system and makes a livecd out of it | 10:20 |
| nikkia | caller, problem is, that 'working system' MUST fit on 1 CD :/ | 10:20 |
| caller | nik, is it installable though? | 10:20 |
| caller | oh ok uselessness | 10:20 |
| caller | thnx tho | 10:21 |
| nikkia | and as i said, a livecd probably isn't likely to be suitable for restore | 10:21 |
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| nikkia | caller, all you really want, is a minimal boot/root floppy combo, use the boot floppy as the CD's boot image, and make it use the root image from CD, then a script to extract an archive from the CD(s) to a specified HDD, offering partitioning on the way | 10:22 |
| caller | nikkia, won't work | 10:22 |
| caller | nikkia, I have no floppy drive | 10:22 |
| nikkia | caller: no, you don't need a floppy drive | 10:22 |
| caller | to use a floppy? | 10:22 |
| nikkia | caller, bootable CDs are made by using a floppy disk image | 10:23 |
| caller | uh, ok | 10:23 |
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| caller | can you explain how I would do this then :) | 10:23 |
| nikkia | caller, not really, its not a huge amount of work, but its beyond a medium like irc :/ | 10:23 |
| shaynes_ | Anyone suggest a nice sources.list for latest apps? | 10:23 |
| caller | nikkia, I see...sounds complex but I'm on quite a deadline | 10:24 |
| caller | I cannot believe there is no app that just DOES this | 10:24 |
| caller | I mean seriously, it's not like my situation never happens? It's pretty much what linux was MADE for, yet it can't achieve it :( | 10:24 |
| CyberMad | you better ask to the mailing list | 10:25 |
| CyberMad | maybe there is no expert today | 10:25 |
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| caller | CyberMad, what mailing list? | 10:26 |
| luigino | hello everyone... | 10:26 |
| CyberMad | kubuntu | 10:26 |
| CyberMad | linux, etc | 10:26 |
| caller | ah | 10:26 |
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| caller | I've been all around google, irc, and forums...I'm not much of a mailing list user though | 10:26 |
| caller | I hate the annoyance of deleting so many unnecesary mails | 10:26 |
| luigino | I've installed gmplayer but looks like it doesnt see DVDs so I figured out kubuntu mounts always as cdrom... so how I can made mounting as dvd? | 10:26 |
| nikkia | caller, all i see, is stuff about using mondo | 10:27 |
| nikkia | caller, i suspect getting mondo working would be your best bet | 10:27 |
| caller | nikkia, well, I don't know what's wrong, but I followed the howto word for word, read the man page to check what I was doing, and redid several times, trying everything. I think mondo's b0rked. | 10:27 |
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| DaSkreech | Is there a GUI to manage users in Kubuntu? | 10:28 |
| caller | kuser? | 10:29 |
| nikkia | dargo: 'kuser' | 10:29 |
| nikkia | erm, DaSkreech, even | 10:29 |
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| DaSkreech | :-) | 10:29 |
| PurpleMotion | kuser is broken in kubuntu, as far as i can tell.. i use the gnome user app | 10:29 |
| hussam | can somebody look at this? http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu , It says breezy has kernel 2.6.12.10 although the latest is 2.6.12.5 | 10:29 |
| nikkia | PurpleMotion: no, it works fine | 10:29 |
| EasterSunshine | ugh...distrowatch... | 10:29 |
| PurpleMotion | mine doesnt over three differernt installs it breaks when you try to quit, and thus doesnt save anything | 10:30 |
| CyberMad | do you have any kubuntu ebook? maybe from amazon.. ;) | 10:30 |
| nikkia | PurpleMotion: works fine for me | 10:30 |
| PurpleMotion | *shrug* owell... | 10:30 |
| caller | mondoarchive -Oc 48 -s 700m -d 1,0,0 -5 -l GRUB -f /dev/hda | 10:30 |
| caller | that should work | 10:30 |
| caller | but it doesn't | 10:30 |
| PurpleMotion | nikkia u see my new desktop? | 10:30 |
| caller | :( | 10:30 |
| hussam | PurpleMotion: kuser is broken in kde 3.4.0 but it is fixed in kde 3.4.2 | 10:30 |
| Tm_T | hussam o/ | 10:31 |
| nikkia | PurpleMotion: no, because your web server was b0rked when i tried | 10:31 |
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| PurpleMotion | nikkia: http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg | 10:31 |
| PurpleMotion | is it really? | 10:31 |
| PurpleMotion | grrr | 10:31 |
| nikkia | ah, it worked that time | 10:31 |
| PurpleMotion | interserver is starting to piss me off | 10:31 |
| hussam | when I upgraded to kde 3.4.2, kuser was fixed. | 10:31 |
| nikkia | i'm not keen on the greys or the window decorations, but thats your choice | 10:32 |
| caller | brb | 10:32 |
| PurpleMotion | hussam: I'll look into upgrading :) | 10:32 |
| PurpleMotion | nikkia: i wanted something that matched the car, heh | 10:33 |
| CyberMad | i partitioning on my HD: 1st partition (15 GB, primary, ext3, mount /), 2nd partition (24 GB, primary, ext3, /home), 3rd partition (1 GB, swap), is that ok? hehe this my classic question.. from 1 year ago using linux, i'm still not confidence ;P | 10:34 |
| PurpleMotion | i think i will upgrade kde | 10:34 |
| caller | back | 10:34 |
| caller | Please, I _really_ need some help guys... | 10:34 |
| DaSkreech | Is there a way to auto detect a newly attached file system? | 10:35 |
| CyberMad | caller have you tried #linux in dal.net or efnet ? i believe there are big community there | 10:35 |
| nikkia | CyberMad: it should be fine | 10:36 |
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| CyberMad | nikkia thanks.. | 10:37 |
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| CyberMad | 58% remaining... my first kubuntu installation ;) | 10:38 |
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| dazjorz | Hey um | 10:40 |
| dazjorz | I forgot what I wanted to ask again :) | 10:40 |
| CyberMad | dazjorz ya? | 10:40 |
| CyberMad | ... | 10:40 |
| dazjorz | Oh yes | 10:41 |
| dazjorz | I've tried to run a graphical program in a virtual environment in a VNC program | 10:41 |
| dazjorz | still with me ? ;) | 10:41 |
| dazjorz | Ok,.. | 10:41 |
| dazjorz | now the program isn't starting... | 10:41 |
| dazjorz | the program is cedega | 10:41 |
| dazjorz | i've got this file .vncrc in my ~ | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | containing: | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | $vncStartup = "/root/.vnc/xstartup"; | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | that /root/.vnc/xstartup contains: | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | #!/bin/sh | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | # run a minimal xwindows manager | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | /usr/bin/oroborus & | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | # Start wine | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | cedega ~/.transgaming/c_drive/wowserver/TrayWoWemu.exe | 10:43 |
| dazjorz | but it's not starting | 10:44 |
| PurpleMotion | try giving it an absolute path | 10:45 |
| CyberMad | sigh,.. i almost forgot | 10:45 |
| PurpleMotion | cedega /home/you/.transgaming/c_drive/wowserver/TrayWoWemu.exe | 10:45 |
| CyberMad | do i must install the ms windows first before linux installation? i want to use dreamcodes crossoffice | 10:45 |
| dazjorz | no, /root/ | 10:45 |
| PurpleMotion | root? | 10:46 |
| CyberMad | sorry, CodeWeavers CrossOver | 10:46 |
| dazjorz | PurpleMotion: Well, in the logs, there is a program like that | 10:46 |
| PurpleMotion | CyberMad: no, you dont need to have windows installed for cxoffice to work | 10:46 |
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| dazjorz | PurpleMotion: In the logs, I see a message of Cedega | 10:46 |
| dazjorz | PurpleMotion: So Cedega itself is starting | 10:47 |
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| dazjorz | PurpleMotion: this is what it outputs: | 10:47 |
| dazjorz | is it okay to paste more then 1 line here ? | 10:47 |
| dazjorz | i mean, nobodies talking | 10:47 |
| PurpleMotion | dazjorz: and check your capitalization along the path you specify, cause everything int he *nix world is case sensitive | 10:47 |
| PurpleMotion | *I* dont care, but you could just as well use a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl) | 10:47 |
| CyberMad | PurpleMotion so where do i have to install like Macromedia Flash MX ? | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | by the way,... mounting an ISO isn't working. | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | because I'm trying to get it working in WINE | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | (Cedega) | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | and it asks for a CD | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | so I mount the CD to a drive | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | i mean, mount the ISO to a folder | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | and then it doesn't work. | 10:48 |
| dazjorz | how do I like ADD a drive in Cedega? | 10:48 |
| PurpleMotion | CyberMad: after you install cw cxoffice, you run "CrossOver Setup" and there is an option to install apps. Click it, then click "Install unsupported software", then click the third option, and point it to FL_Client_Setup.exe | 10:49 |
| CyberMad | ok got that :) | 10:49 |
| CyberMad | thanks | 10:49 |
| CyberMad | it's different with wine that i have tried about 1 years ago | 10:50 |
| CyberMad | from wine i can load an exe from windows partition.. like minesweeper, notepad | 10:50 |
| PurpleMotion | you can do that with crossover's wine as well, you just have o do it manually | 10:51 |
| CyberMad | ok | 10:53 |
| dazjorz | *asks his question again | 10:54 |
| dazjorz | How do I ADD a drive in Cedega ? | 10:54 |
| PurpleMotion | oh my bad, didnt see the first | 10:55 |
| PurpleMotion | i dunno | 10:55 |
| PurpleMotion | dont use cedega | 10:55 |
| PurpleMotion | brb, need to restart kde | 10:56 |
| dazjorz | PurpleMotion: Uhm,.. How do I run WoW then, if I don't use Cedega | 10:56 |
| CyberMad | i belive linux don't need a restart :P | 10:56 |
| dazjorz | PurpleMotion: Uhm,... How do I run WoW then, if I don't use Cedega... | 10:57 |
| dazjorz | Oh BTW | 10:57 |
| dazjorz | is there some way to write to an NTFS partition? | 10:58 |
| CyberMad | samba ? | 10:58 |
| dazjorz | CyberMad: Dual boot . | 11:02 |
| dazjorz | Sorry, gtg. Bye | 11:02 |
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| PurpleMotion | well, kuser works now :) | 11:04 |
| PurpleMotion | 3.4.2 seems kinda nice | 11:04 |
| PurpleMotion | whats new in it? | 11:04 |
| jpatrick | bug fixes | 11:06 |
| PurpleMotion | right on | 11:07 |
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| CyberMad_at_Kubu | test | 11:14 |
| CyberMad_at_Kubu | successed! | 11:14 |
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| CyberMad_at_Kubu | what is the best irc client in linux? | 11:15 |
| === CyberMad_at_Kubu is now known as yudi | ||
| judax | I like kvric and konversation | 11:15 |
| yudi | how about xChat? | 11:16 |
| judax | it is quite good, I just like the other two better, personal thing I guess | 11:16 |
| judax | irssi is very good, but it is console-based, very powerful | 11:17 |
| yudi | ok, thanks :) | 11:17 |
| PieD | yudi: if you use (and like) KDE, then Konversation is a good choice | 11:17 |
| PieD | if you prefer gnome, then xchat | 11:17 |
| yudi | so xChat doesn't run in KDE ? | 11:17 |
| judax | yeah, xchat or irssi would be my choice in gnome. I do run a gnome box and I use either one of those | 11:18 |
| judax | it will run | 11:18 |
| judax | in kde | 11:18 |
| yudi | maybe i will install mirc | 11:18 |
| yudi | with CrossOver | 11:19 |
| judax | ah, no need to do that | 11:19 |
| judax | :) | 11:19 |
| yudi | because i need the script | 11:19 |
| judax | I see, losing lots of scripting is tuff | 11:20 |
| judax | yudi: you need scripting *capability* or you need mirc *scripts*? | 11:20 |
| yudi | what do you mean with "tuff" ? i don't speak english very well | 11:21 |
| yudi | mirc *scripts* | 11:21 |
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| c0rrupt_ | im having a little trouble with kubuntu, it seems that i cannot connect to servers running on my comp localy but others can. anyone have any ideas? | 11:21 |
| judax | tough | 11:21 |
| c0rrupt_ | proftpd | 11:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | nessus | 11:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | they both worked at one point | 11:22 |
| judax | c0rrupt_: sorry, I don't have any experience with those two | 11:22 |
| c0rrupt_ | wow wierd | 11:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | i typed in my wan ip and it worked | 11:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | "localhost" doesnt work | 11:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | yet 129.44.215.123 does | 11:23 |
| judax | hmm, that is strange | 11:23 |
| c0rrupt_ | its not listening to localhost apprently | 11:24 |
| yudi | have you check your nameserver configuration? | 11:25 |
| yudi | try 127.0.0.1 | 11:25 |
| c0rrupt_ | ? | 11:25 |
| c0rrupt_ | i did | 11:25 |
| yudi | does it worked? | 11:26 |
| c0rrupt_ | no | 11:26 |
| c0rrupt_ | aparently they arnt listening on localhost | 11:26 |
| c0rrupt_ | which is very strange | 11:26 |
| c0rrupt_ | only extenrally | 11:26 |
| yudi | can you ping the 127.0.0.1 ? | 11:26 |
| yudi | what is the result? | 11:26 |
| c0rrupt_ | no reply | 11:27 |
| yudi | wait,... | 11:27 |
| c0rrupt_ | yea | 11:28 |
| yudi | i don't remember what is no reply mean in ping | 11:28 |
| yudi | brb check google | 11:28 |
| c0rrupt_ | going to try something | 11:30 |
| c0rrupt_ | brb | 11:30 |
| c0rrupt_ | * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [fail] | 11:32 |
| c0rrupt_ | that happens at boot | 11:32 |
| c0rrupt_ | and when i run networking restart | 11:32 |
| yudi | so you can ping other computers, right? | 11:33 |
| c0rrupt_ | yup | 11:34 |
| c0rrupt_ | * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [fail] | 11:34 |
| c0rrupt_ | that happens at boot | 11:34 |
| c0rrupt_ | and when i run | 11:34 |
| c0rrupt_ | networking restart | 11:34 |
| yudi | using what interface? | 11:34 |
| yudi | using what network interface? | 11:34 |
| c0rrupt_ | all? | 11:34 |
| c0rrupt_ | /etc/init.d/networking restart | 11:34 |
| zAo^ | (tried stop ; start?) | 11:34 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: paste /etc/network/interfaces to some pastebin | 11:34 |
| zAo^ | (DHCP? If so, try "sudp dhclient eth0') | 11:35 |
| c0rrupt_ | permision denied? | 11:35 |
| static | i don't recall being asked for a root password when i installed kubuntu. am i expected to sudo everything as a regular user or did i miss it? (i note that i can sudo su, though ;) | 11:35 |
| zAo^ | sudo | 11:35 |
| c0rrupt_ | im on wlan0 | 11:35 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: have to be root, use sudo | 11:35 |
| c0rrupt_ | lo doesnt work | 11:35 |
| c0rrupt_ | i am root | 11:35 |
| yudi | i mean, are you only use 1 ethernet card ? | 11:35 |
| c0rrupt_ | im using wlan0 | 11:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | thats it | 11:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | eth0 and lo are present | 11:36 |
| yudi | sorry can't help... i never use WLAN :P | 11:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | its nOT WLAN RELATED | 11:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | =P | 11:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | something fucked with "lo" | 11:36 |
| zAo^ | sorry, didnt follow your prob. You use dhcp? | 11:36 |
| c0rrupt_ | ...... | 11:37 |
| c0rrupt_ | sigh | 11:37 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: what do you have in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname ? | 11:37 |
| c0rrupt_ | hostname is kubuntu | 11:38 |
| c0rrupt_ | and | 11:38 |
| c0rrupt_ | hosts | 11:38 |
| c0rrupt_ | is | 11:38 |
| c0rrupt_ | 27.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost kubuntu | 11:38 |
| c0rrupt_ | 1* | 11:38 |
| yudi | ok i guess there is firewall blocked your ping to your l0 | 11:38 |
| yudi | because there is no reply :| | 11:39 |
| c0rrupt_ | i have no firewall | 11:39 |
| pax | delete kubuntu from that line and add a line with your IP kubuntu.yourdomain.whatever kubuntu | 11:40 |
| yudi | i hope pax solution can help you.. | 11:40 |
| c0rrupt_ | ? | 11:41 |
| c0rrupt_ | delete kubuntu.. | 11:41 |
| c0rrupt_ | add what? | 11:41 |
| c0rrupt_ | wan ip.. local ip.. lan ip.. ?????????// | 11:41 |
| pax | take the word 'kubuntu' from 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost kubuntu | 11:41 |
| c0rrupt_ | mk | 11:42 |
| c0rrupt_ | now | 11:42 |
| pax | add this line bellow 129.44.215.123 kubuntu.c0rrupt.hehe kubuntu | 11:43 |
| c0rrupt_ | .hehe | 11:43 |
| c0rrupt_ | lol | 11:43 |
| pax | you said you are not behind a rounter, right? | 11:43 |
| pax | router* | 11:44 |
| c0rrupt_ | im behind a router | 11:44 |
| c0rrupt_ | my lan ip 192.168.1.101 | 11:44 |
| pax | and when you ping google.com? | 11:44 |
| c0rrupt_ | works fine | 11:45 |
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| pax | restart network now | 11:45 |
| c0rrupt_ | fails | 11:46 |
| pax | /etc/init.d/networking restart fails? | 11:46 |
| c0rrupt_ | yes | 11:46 |
| pax | can you restart if you do 192.168.1.101 kubuntu.c0rrupt.hehe kubuntu | 11:47 |
| c0rrupt_ | ok | 11:47 |
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| c0rrupt_ | fail | 11:48 |
| pax | nikkia should help you with this one | 11:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | hello nikkia | 11:48 |
| yudi | do you use iwconfig eth0 or ifconfig eth0? when using gentoo with WLAN use iwconfig | 11:48 |
| nikkia | yudi, they do differen't things | 11:48 |
| yudi | but i don't know with kubuntu | 11:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | im having a little trouble with lo | 11:48 |
| nikkia | iwconfig = set WLAN parameters, ifconfig = set interface parameters | 11:48 |
| c0rrupt_ | i cannot do anything locally | 11:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | i cannot ping localhost | 11:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | i cannot connect to servers that are local | 11:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | but wan connections work fine | 11:49 |
| c0rrupt_ | and, restarting the network returns a fail | 11:50 |
| nikkia | erm, c0rrupt_, did you say you're on wlan ? | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | yes | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | ma'am | 11:51 |
| nikkia | *some* wireless routers block ICMP | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | well | 11:51 |
| yudi | 0_o | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | it wouldnt block ping 127.0.0.1 | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | AND | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | it worked fine 2 days ago | 11:51 |
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| tenco | hi | 11:51 |
| nikkia | c0rrupt_: ah, hmm | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | indeed | 11:51 |
| nikkia | c0rrupt_: tried rebooting the router? | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | ... | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | nien | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | ? | 11:51 |
| tenco | kcontrol trashes /etc/network/interfaces | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | why would my router block | 11:51 |
| c0rrupt_ | localhost | 11:52 |
| nikkia | c0rrupt_: try it, you never know | 11:52 |
| c0rrupt_ | that makes no sense | 11:52 |
| c0rrupt_ | ;\ | 11:52 |
| c0rrupt_ | i can ping everything else | 11:52 |
| yudi | can you do ping from other computer to your computer? | 11:52 |
| c0rrupt_ | yea | 11:52 |
| c0rrupt_ | and other people are using my servers right now | 11:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | people on wan | 11:53 |
| pax | I was thinking hostname problem nikkia | 11:53 |
| nikkia | you dont' have an iptables rule blocking icmp, do you ? | 11:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | no | 11:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | i have no firewall | 11:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | its not just icmp | 11:53 |
| nikkia | pax, i get the impression he used the IP address | 11:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | its all local connections | 11:53 |
| yudi | i believe there is something block your ping (packet source: your IP) | 11:53 |
| c0rrupt_ | . | 11:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | yudi | 11:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | i could careless about the pings | 11:54 |
| c0rrupt_ | my local interface must be down | 11:54 |
| yudi | just imho.. | 11:55 |
| c0rrupt_ | ? | 11:56 |
| pax | I dunno about WLAN, do you have something in /etc/network/interfaces ? | 11:56 |
| c0rrupt_ | ? | 11:57 |
| c0rrupt_ | yes | 11:57 |
| c0rrupt_ | lots? | 11:57 |
| pax | show me please, in pastebin | 11:57 |
| c0rrupt_ | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1343 | 11:58 |
| pax | iface eth0 inet <- what's this you have a second interface? | 11:59 |
| c0rrupt_ | its just my ethernet | 11:59 |
| c0rrupt_ | its not plugged in.. | 11:59 |
| pax | iface eth0 inet static <- add 'static' there | 11:59 |
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| pax | oh never mind then | 11:59 |
| c0rrupt_ | yea | 11:59 |
| c0rrupt_ | im not using it | 11:59 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: hotplug is giving you that error at boot because of that, that's one. either take the entry from there or add static | 12:00 |
| yudi | looks live will be solved :) | 12:01 |
| yudi | looks like will be solved :) | 12:01 |
| c0rrupt_ | hm ok? | 12:01 |
| pax | restart networking now see what happens | 12:01 |
| pax | not that it's relevant | 12:01 |
| yudi | .... | 12:01 |
| c0rrupt_ | ok | 12:02 |
| pax | so, is it restarting? | 12:02 |
| tenco | kcontrol trashes /etc/network/interfaces, is this a known bug? | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | wow | 12:02 |
| yudi | can't wait to know the result | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | worked | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | let me ping myself | 12:02 |
| pax | tenco I believe so. | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | damn thanks | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | it works! | 12:02 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: good for you | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | no | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | good for you | 12:02 |
| c0rrupt_ | =D | 12:03 |
| pax | hehe | 12:03 |
| yudi | great job pax | 12:03 |
| c0rrupt_ | what did you fix? | 12:03 |
| pax | it was a wild shot | 12:03 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: you just had that 'static' missing there I guess | 12:03 |
| c0rrupt_ | lmfao | 12:03 |
| c0rrupt_ | thanks | 12:03 |
| c0rrupt_ | <3 lady luck | 12:03 |
| pax | iface eth0 inet <- can't be like that has to be either static or dhcp | 12:03 |
| yudi | new knowledge for me... | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | same | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | i know why it worked before | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | because i had to use ethernet before i got my wlan0 going | 12:05 |
| pax | the interface wanst there? | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | do dl drivers | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | but this time | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | when i reformated | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | i went straight to wlan0 | 12:05 |
| c0rrupt_ | so i never changed eth0 do use dhcp | 12:05 |
| pax | c0rrupt_: alright, so go break something else and come back atleast this wans't a question about sudo or repos | 12:06 |
| c0rrupt_ | LOL | 12:06 |
| c0rrupt_ | well | 12:06 |
| c0rrupt_ | i had to format because i fucked over my repos | 12:06 |
| c0rrupt_ | =P | 12:06 |
| c0rrupt_ | but i bothered the people in #ubuntu about that | 12:07 |
| c0rrupt_ | hahah | 12:07 |
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| yudi | brb | 12:07 |
| zAo^ | any xMule QT based clients??? | 12:07 |
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