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| cyphase | hey everyone | 01:28 |
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| cyphase | hey everyone | 06:42 |
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| jelkner | good morning everyone, there is a meeting about to start here, yes? (i wanted to make sure i didn't drag myself out of bed for naught) | 02:04 |
| Treenaks | jelkner: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingAgendas | 02:05 |
| Treenaks | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | 02:05 |
| smurfix | jelkner: 1400UTC => in two hours | 02:06 |
| jelkner | smurfix: thanks | 02:07 |
| jelkner | JaneW: i thought we had an edubuntu meeting | 02:08 |
| jelkner | so did paul | 02:08 |
| ogra_ | jelkner, yes, in 12h | 02:08 |
| ogra_ | youre a bit early | 02:08 |
| ogra_ | :) | 02:08 |
| jelkner | btw that one is not on the calendar | 02:09 |
| jelkner | or the MeetingAgendas | 02:09 |
| jelkner | but at least i get to go back to sleep | 02:10 |
| ogra_ | tomorrows CD will be our first colony btw.... todays already looks *very* good | 02:10 |
| ogra_ | (edubuntu colony indeed, not ubuntu) | 02:10 |
| jbailey | ogra_: Does this mean we still have to avoid uploading today? | 02:11 |
| jelkner | ogra_: excellent, so you think we can start setting up servers with it? | 02:11 |
| ogra_ | jelkner, you already can do that today... but with much hassle... | 02:11 |
| ogra_ | jbailey, there is no ubuntu colony 3 yet, so i guess you should avoid to upload broken stuff | 02:12 |
| jelkner | i can live with hassle, but i wanted to be sure i *could* get it to work | 02:12 |
| jbailey | Mmm, mdz usually likes people to avoid uploading at all so that the images are consistent. | 02:12 |
| Mithrandir | ogra_: wasn't colony supposed to release yesterday or before that? | 02:12 |
| ogra_ | Mithrandir, yes, but #13532 | 02:13 |
| jelkner | and once we do get it to work, i was hoping to be able to apt-get upgrade my way to the final release | 02:13 |
| jelkner | so that i can begin setting up the classroom lab for the fall | 02:13 |
| jbailey | ogra_: That would be bad. =) | 02:13 |
| jbailey | I'd love to get this initramfs-tools in, then. | 02:14 |
| ogra_ | jelkner, edubuntu ltsp is already usable... i test it twice a week | 02:14 |
| ogra_ | jbailey, do they improve ltsp ? | 02:14 |
| jbailey | ogra_: Yes. | 02:14 |
| jelkner | ogra_: cool! i'll start using it tomorrow | 02:14 |
| ogra_ | jelkner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto | 02:14 |
| ogra_ | just follow that one, you can even use it on ubuntu right away... (still needs a network connection to download the client env, but that will change soon to CD) | 02:15 |
| jbailey | ogra_: The improvement is that I now forcible install non-optimised libraries, so if you built the initramfs on an i686 with CMOV and the destination machine doesn't have it (old VIA chips), the initramfs will now work. | 02:15 |
| jelkner | ogra_: the schooltool folks are concerned that 0.10 is still the current version in edubuntu. is there still time to change that? | 02:15 |
| jbailey | ogra_: jammcq and another guy tested for me last night. | 02:16 |
| ogra_ | jelkner, i already have mail from mark to update it... i was just busy with fixing moodle and nvu .... | 02:16 |
| ogra_ | jbailey, yes, i saw the conversation... but in the end mdz should give approval for uploads before we have a colony out | 02:16 |
| jbailey | ogra_: Yup. Is he the only one? | 02:17 |
| ogra_ | i guess so, Kamion has no representative afaik | 02:17 |
| jbailey | 'kay | 02:17 |
| jelkner | well, see you in 12 hours then (jelkner goes back to bed)... | 02:18 |
| jbailey | I'll pounce when I see him log on, then. | 02:18 |
| ogra_ | i mean, if youre sure it wont break anything or even unbreak stuf.... | 02:18 |
| jbailey | ogra_: I'm sure to the extent that it runs on 5 different machines. But there's always risk. | 02:19 |
| ogra_ | hmm... i guess its up to you to decide if it improves or breaks... | 02:20 |
| ogra_ | improvement should go in indeed... | 02:20 |
| jbailey | ogra_: Given the bugs that it fixes, I'd rather see it in. Given that he's mid way through the colony process, I'd rather not interfere. | 02:20 |
| jbailey | So if he's restarting from scratch this morning, I'd cheerfully upload. | 02:21 |
| ogra_ | he sadly didnt tell me anything except "there is no colony3 yet ogra" | 02:22 |
| ogra_ | which stunned me a bit... since the rameining X bug was fixed yesterday night... so todays daily should have been the colony3 | 02:22 |
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| JaneW | jelkner: yes we do | 02:36 |
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| JaneW | jelkner at 22:00 | 02:37 |
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| Burgundavia | hey all | 04:25 |
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| mgalvin | howdy | 04:37 |
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| mdke | hello all | 04:37 |
| mgalvin | might as well just start with names for the record | 04:38 |
| === mgalvin is Matt Galvin | ||
| mdke | matthew east | 04:38 |
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| mgalvin | This special meeting is to discuss what will be used as the front page of yelp | 04:39 |
| mgalvin | so what exactly are all of our options for the front page? | 04:39 |
| mgalvin | faqguide, quicktour,... | 04:40 |
| mdke | we have the option to have a list of documentation or to open it up immediately into a book | 04:40 |
| Burgundavia | we pretty much are only going to able to ship with the faqguide and the quicktour | 04:40 |
| mdke | to some extent it depends on which documents will be released for breezy | 04:40 |
| mgalvin | i took a quick look at the aboutubuntu and releasenotes and we can probably include them in some way if they are still relevant to have | 04:41 |
| mdke | the aboutubuntu document has its own link in the menu right now | 04:41 |
| mdke | what is the idea for the quicktour? | 04:42 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 04:42 |
| mdke | how will that be accessed? | 04:42 |
| Burgundavia | the quicktour is mostly a marketing doc for the web and hand-outs | 04:43 |
| Burgundavia | it can also be linked from the about ubuntu stuff | 04:43 |
| Burgundavia | and the release notes | 04:43 |
| mdke | yeah | 04:43 |
| mdke | well if those are the only documents, it might not be so vital to have an index of documents | 04:43 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 04:44 |
| Burgundavia | given we havea bout 3 weeks left for writing, even the quicktour is going to be a crunch | 04:45 |
| mgalvin | so then maybe the faqquide should just be the front page since the other docs are already linked from other places | 04:46 |
| Burgundavia | if we link the faqguide as the front page, we should a front page for the faqguide that links the other docs (release notes, quicktour, about ubuntu) | 04:46 |
| Burgundavia | that can be really short | 04:46 |
| mgalvin | yes agreed | 04:46 |
| mdke | yes that is a nice idea | 04:46 |
| mdke | obviously this discussion does not apply to Kubuntu | 04:48 |
| mdke | what are the issues there? | 04:48 |
| mgalvin | ok, so faqguide as front page and the faqguide needs another section to link to other docs, this new section should the first thing shown | 04:48 |
| Burgundavia | jjesse would be one to ask | 04:48 |
| Burgundavia | mgalvin, just add a paragraph at the top of the current front page | 04:49 |
| mgalvin | sure | 04:49 |
| mdke | does anyone think that the early sections of the Userguide might be worth releasing | 04:51 |
| Burgundavia | no | 04:51 |
| mdke | they provide a good introduction to what linux, GNU, and Ubuntu is | 04:51 |
| Burgundavia | oh, sure | 04:51 |
| jjesse | sorry was in another window | 04:52 |
| jjesse | i would have to defer to froud on how exactly it works in kubuntu | 04:52 |
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| mgalvin | what kubuntu docs are done? | 04:54 |
| mgalvin | or will be ready in time | 04:54 |
| mgalvin | there is very little kubuntu content in the faqguide | 04:55 |
| jjesse | i know the kuserguide won't be | 04:55 |
| jjesse | haven't read thrrough the faqguide lately, but if i recall correctly mgalvin is correct that not much will need to be changed | 04:55 |
| mgalvin | kug kqg krn kak are the docs that get included in kubuntu already with froud weekly build/upload | 04:57 |
| Burgundavia | same as ubuntu then | 04:58 |
| mgalvin | ubuntu only has, rn au faq | 04:58 |
| Burgundavia | qt is qg | 04:59 |
| mgalvin | k | 04:59 |
| Burgundavia | anyone seriously object to using the faqguide as the main page? | 05:00 |
| mdke | nope | 05:00 |
| mgalvin | no objections here | 05:00 |
| Burgundavia | I think jerome was warming to the idea | 05:00 |
| mdke | ok let's defer to the mailing list, given that not a lot of peopl are around | 05:03 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 05:03 |
| mgalvin | ok | 05:03 |
| mdke | anything else people want to discuss? | 05:03 |
| Burgundavia | raise it as "lets make the faqguide the default main page" | 05:03 |
| mgalvin | nope | 05:03 |
| Burgundavia | rather than "what do people want as the default main page" | 05:03 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, so pushy... | 05:04 |
| mgalvin | sounds good, who wants to send the email | 05:04 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, we need to be pushy now | 05:04 |
| mdke | ok last call for more agenda items | 05:04 |
| Burgundavia | mgalvin, your guide | 05:04 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, none from me | 05:04 |
| mdke | ok | 05:04 |
| mgalvin | ok, i'll mail the list in a few min | 05:04 |
| mdke | end of meeting then | 05:04 |
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| flint | hey jane.! | 08:22 |
| ogra | flint, you scared her it seems :) | 08:23 |
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| flint | just another case of FITS (Flint Induced Tourette's Syndrome) Ollie... | 08:36 |
| ogra | :) | 08:37 |
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| Loiosh | That would be.. 4 pm cst? | 09:16 |
| ogra | Loiosh, what ? | 09:50 |
| Loiosh | The Edubuntu developer meeting? | 09:58 |
| Loiosh | -6 GMT is -6 UTC, I was just trying to figure out the time with my poor, uneducated american mind =) | 09:58 |
| ogra | Loiosh, looks like we will postpone it, JaneW is ill... and she is the project manager... | 10:00 |
| Loiosh | Ahh, oh well =) | 10:00 |
| ogra | i'm only the technician... and i'm not sure what non techie stuff she wanted to discuss | 10:01 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ogra] : Agendas: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingAgendas | Calendar: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 17 Aug 22:00 UTC: Edubuntu Dev Meeting !!! postponed to Aug 18 !!! | 23 Aug 20:00 UTC Tech Board | 24 Aug 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 25 Aug 14:00 UTC: Doc Team | 30 Aug 20:00 UTC: Community Council | ||
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| GNULinuxGeek | Hello All... | 12:03 |
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