[12:00] <Goodspeed> how do i enable an ftp server with a server setup?
[12:00] <popey> bigbootay: I use totem, works okay
[12:00] <Goodspeed> or is it already enabled?
[12:00] <salil> bigbootay: do you know how to set it up..?
[12:00] <ilba7r> dannyu502_ which ndiswrapper you are trying to install
[12:00] <ethan_> None of my applications will work if I log out and back in..  its so weird! help!
[12:00] <popey> Goodspeed: usually not, no
[12:00] <dannyu502_> ilba7r, and any new driver i try to install installs, and thne when i put in ndiswrapper -l it says the are all invalid drivers
[12:00] <popey> Goodspeed: apt-get install <name of ftpd package>
[12:00] <Goodspeed> ftpd?
[12:00] <bigbootay> I think that there's a how-to for it with ubuntu.
[12:00] <Klementas> how can I get Epiphany or Firefox to save passwords I type into web sites??
[12:01] <bigbootay> I did it someone but I can't recall.
[12:01] <popey> Goodspeed: do apt-cache search ftpd
[12:01] <Goodspeed> ok
[12:01] <popey> Goodspeed: see what ones turn up
[12:01] <blubb> exit
[12:01] <popey> Goodspeed: pick one, install it
[12:01] <bigbootay> ...it for someone...
[12:01] <dannyu502_> ilba7r, None, I already have one installed im trying to install my wireless internet and so i installed drivers for my wireless G network adaptor and it says invalid drivers
[12:01] <bigbootay> I think that we ended up using xine.
[12:01] <Goodspeed> can i enable that so i get access to the entire linux drive from my computer?
[12:01] <dannyu502_> and it gives me that message when i do sudo modpackage ndiswrapper
[12:01] <popey> Goodspeed: yes
[12:01] <SBanner> thanx, tah tah
[12:01] <Goodspeed> my windows computer*
[12:01] <Goodspeed> ok
[12:01] <ilba7r> dannyu502_ try a driver that is known to work mine did not work with my official window driver
[12:01] <popey> Goodspeed: you could for example use IE to do that
[12:01] <Goodspeed> i was thinking more like smartftp but same difference
[12:01] <popey> Goodspeed: (not the best tool for the job but you will have it on your windows computer)
[12:02] <popey> Goodspeed: yes
[12:02] <popey> Goodspeed: that's better :D
[12:02] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, you could install winSCP on your windows machine, and run sshd on your server
[12:02] <popey> even better!
[12:02] <ethan_> should i install e16?  instead of metacity?...
[12:02] <bigbootay> salil, my parting gift to you: http://ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui
[12:02] <Goodspeed> funkyhat that wnet right over my head
[12:02] <Snopy> Is it posible to install ubuntu from an iso file when im running fedora from the same harddrive the ubuntu image is saved on?
[12:02] <dannyu502_> ilba7r, which ones are known to work?
[12:02] <popey> Goodspeed: apt-get install ssh
[12:02] <ce33na> scp would be much more secure than ftp
[12:02] <salil> bigbootay: thanks
[12:02] <PurpleMotion> !ubuntuguide
[12:02] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[12:02] <popey> Goodspeed: then install winscp
[12:02] <popey> Goodspeed: it's like ftp, but better, safer
[12:02] <Goodspeed> what is winscp?
[12:02] <dannyu502_> ilba7r, and don't you need the driver specific for your type of network adaptor
[12:02] <PurpleMotion> bigbootay:  dont recommend the ubuntu guide, please
[12:03] <Goodspeed> cp=control panel?
[12:03] <bigbootay> really?
[12:03] <popey> Goodspeed: a windows scp (secure copy) program
[12:03] <Goodspeed> ahhh k
[12:03] <Goodspeed> do i have to mess around with stuff?
[12:03] <Rydekull> anyone here have splashy in?
[12:03] <popey> Goodspeed: nope
[12:03] <PurpleMotion> yah :) it's great, but it doesnt explain anything
[12:03] <Goodspeed> like endless config files?
[12:03] <bigbootay> ubotu, thanks for the alternative.
[12:03] <ce33na> SecureCoPy
[12:03] <ubotu> pas de quoi, bigbootay
[12:03] <popey> Goodspeed: it will "Just Work"
[12:03] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, winSCP is a program (it's kind of like an FTP client) that connects to SSH or SFTP servers
[12:03] <Ex-Cyber> I'm getting intermittent connection stalls with Hoary behind Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing on a dialup link... should I bother trying to diagnose this, or is it pretty much "normal" for such a setup?
[12:03] <funkyHat> and yes, it just works :)
[12:03] <ilba7r> dannyu502_ wait i am trying to get you the site
[12:03] <Goodspeed> how would i access that then on my windows machine?
[12:03] <ilba7r> it seem that it is down now
[12:03] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, with winSCP
[12:03] <popey> Goodspeed: you'd run winscp and tell it the hostname/user/pass of your linux box
[12:03] <funkyHat> that's the part you install on windows
[12:04] <titaniululz> funkyHat, what about using network file sharing? i have shares enabled on my windows computer and immediately upon installing ubuntu i noticed it could see those shares
[12:04] <Goodspeed> ahh k
[12:04] <Goodspeed> so apt-get install winscp
[12:04] <funkyHat> the thing you need to install on the server is ssh
[12:04] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, no
[12:04] <popey> titaniululz: depends if the server is going to be local or not
[12:04] <davro> trying to a collaborative editor apt-get install gobby is not found?
[12:04] <Goodspeed> lol
[12:04] <Goodspeed> ok
[12:04] <Goodspeed> apt-get install ssh
[12:04] <funkyHat> winscp is a windows program
[12:04] <funkyHat> yes
[12:04] <ilba7r> dannyu502_ here is the list of drivers and where to download them http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[12:04] <titaniululz> popey, it's behind a router but i plan on using it for apache
[12:04] <ubuntu> asd
[12:04] <popey> davro: no, doesn't look like there's a package for it
[12:04] <Exo0dus> #ubuntu-es
[12:04] <ubuntu> ih
[12:04] <PurpleMotion> yah ssh provides the linux equivalent (scp)
[12:04] <ubuntu> hi
[12:04] <Goodspeed> and will that work with ubuntu or do i need to create a root account?
[12:04] <Snopy> Is it possible to install Ubuntu when Im running fedoroa without the CD? Ive downloaded the iso file.
[12:05] <dannyu502_> ilba7r, ok thanks, i hafta eat idnner i will bbson
[12:05] <popey> Goodspeed: no, it will work
[12:05] <XTERM> Hey Just installed Ububtu....It ROCKS !.......Hi everone !
[12:05] <davro> There website is a bit misleading http://gobby.0x539.de/download.html
[12:05] <ilba7r> dannyu502_ ur welcomed and bon aptite
[12:05] <savve> liable: you know what drovers goes for xircom RBEM56G-100?
[12:05] <funkyHat> PurpleMotion, he needs to install the ssh server on his linux box in order to be able to connect using winscp
[12:05] <savve> drivers*
[12:05] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, you may need to set a root password
[12:05] <Goodspeed> i have one set
[12:05] <Goodspeed> isnt that the first pw
[12:05] <bigbootay> ubotu, thanks for the alternative.  I'll start using the wiki.
[12:05] <ubotu> bigbootay: no worries
[12:05] <Goodspeed> you enter with the install?
[12:06] <popey> davro: http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/InstallationGuide read that
[12:06] <funkyHat> no, that isn't actually the root password
[12:06] <popey> davro: it tells you to modify your sources.list, then apt-get will find it
[12:06] <Goodspeed> dammn
[12:06] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, to set a real root password, you run sudo passwd
[12:06] <Goodspeed> can it be the same passwd?
[12:06] <funkyHat> yep
[12:06] <popey> Goodspeed: there's stuff about root and passwords on http://ubuntuguide.org/ which is really good
[12:06] <ethan_> -sigh...-
[12:06] <Seveas> popey, ehm ubuntuguide and good don't go in one sentence...
[12:07] <Snopy> How to install Ubuntu when Im running fedora on the same harddrive the iso file is on?
[12:07] <ethan_> I cannot believe how slow this is...
[12:07] <Goodspeed> yea i saw that
[12:07] <popey> what do you say that?
[12:07] <funkyHat> !ubuntuguide
[12:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[12:07] <titaniululz> popey i'm reading the man page for wu-ftpd and it seems like any accounts on the ftp need a shell on the system... huh?
[12:07] <ethan_> I read people opening firefox in about 5 seconds or less on a 300 mhz powerbook...  and it takes me soo long!
[12:07] <popey> oh, ok
[12:07] <popey> I'll refrain from mentioning it :)
[12:08] <Rydekull> Is there anyone here running splashy?
[12:08] <davro> Read carefully the section which applies to you in our installation guide, Missed that cheers !.
[12:08] <Goodspeed> should i upgrade to breezy first?
[12:08] <Goodspeed> lol
[12:08] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, NO
[12:08] <popey> yikes, no
[12:08] <funkyHat> :P
[12:08] <funkyHat> read the chat topic
[12:09] <Ex-Cyber> ethan_: is DMA enabled on your hard drive? (sudo hdparm /dev/hda)
[12:09] <titaniululz> i'd really like an ftpd for ubuntu that will just let me list a bunch of users/passwords and their file paths+permissions; i don't want to set up shells and such for each user, that's a bit excessive. any good servers i should try?
[12:10] <kemik> titaniululz:  pureftpd
[12:10] <Rydekull> hmm, I need the rc.* and init.d-files for splashy :/
[12:10] <Goodspeed> ok the hostname = ip address of the server in winscp rigth?
[12:10] <funkyHat> yes
[12:11] <Goodspeed> nm
[12:11] <Goodspeed> ill just follow the guide
[12:11] <Goodspeed> :)
[12:11] <funkyHat> :)
[12:11] <titaniululz> kemik, where is that? apt-get install pureftpd fails
[12:11] <kemik> titaniululz:  pureftpd.org
[12:11] <MrPockets> where does one place the image for a splash screen?
[12:12] <Goodspeed> is ti the same username and pw i logged into ubuntu with?
[12:12] <funkyHat> Goodspeed, root and then the password you just set for root
[12:12] <Goodspeed> oooo
[12:12] <Goodspeed> ook
[12:13] <funkyHat> (i'm assuming you want root level access to the whole hard drive, as you mentioned access to the whole filesystem)
[12:13] <titaniululz> kemik, looks cool, thanks
[12:13] <funkyHat> if you just want user level access, then your username and password
[12:13] <Goodspeed> now i have write access to every single file correct?
[12:13] <funkyHat> yes
[12:13] <Goodspeed> woohooo
[12:13] <kemik> np
[12:13] <Goodspeed> i can finally delete that cursed usr file
[12:14] <Goodspeed> jjjjjjust kidding
[12:14] <funkyHat> hehehe :D
[12:14] <kemik> rm -rf /etc
[12:14] <Goodspeed> if i type wget where is that file put?
[12:14] <ksmurf> anyone have any idea on pysquilte2?
[12:14] <kemik> Goodspeed:   current directory
[12:14] <Goodspeed> cool
[12:14] <ksmurf> anyone have any idea on pysqlite2?
[12:15] <ethan_> its going sooo slow!!  HELP!
[12:15] <ethan_> like if i click the date in the upper right
[12:15] <ethan_> it takes about 2 or 3 minutes for the thing to show up!
[12:16] <ethan_> or just freezes
[12:16] <ethan_> i just installed ubuntu
[12:16] <ce33na> how much ram?
[12:16] <IcemanV9> low memory system?
[12:16] <ethan_> 320 megs
[12:16] <ce33na> hmm
[12:16] <ethan_> now it just said clock quitted
[12:16] <ethan_> and isn't reloading...
[12:17] <ce33na> you just installed?
[12:17] <ethan_> yea
[12:17] <vitor4130> hi there. im using linux on my computer and i d like to access  msn . how can i do that?
[12:17] <ethan_> vitor4130,   with the gaim application
[12:17] <IcemanV9> vitor4130: apt-get install gaim
[12:17] <dutch> what's a good RSS reader for gnome ?
[12:17] <Seveas> blam
[12:17] <meuserj|work> dutch, I like liferea
[12:17] <ethan_> so now how do i get my clock back?
[12:17] <vitor4130> ok im goning to try that!
[12:18] <titaniululz> if i'm going to download software and it comes as a .deb file can i use that?
[12:18] <dutch> any others ?
[12:18] <ce33na> ethan_: if it was me, I would try to install again since I wouldn't loose anything important. Then I would scratch my head
[12:18] <Goodspeed> holyt shit this ssh thing is faster than ftp!!
[12:18] <ethan_> yea but it took soooo long...
[12:18] <ethan_> from like 11 pm to 5 am..
[12:19] <ce33na> did you install from cd?
[12:19] <ethan_> yes
[12:19] <ethan_> I'm using it right now to talk to you
[12:19] <ethan_> if i were to log out righ tnow
[12:19] <ethan_> and log back in
[12:19] <ethan_> none of the applications would open!
[12:19] <Bags> ekimus, I went to that site. It's great! Thanks for the link. It hasn't helped, howver and I'm still nowhere...
[12:19] <ethan_> untill i restart
[12:19] <ethan_> and it doesn't restart
[12:20] <ethan_> i have to do a force shutdown by holding the power button each time
[12:20] <kemik> titaniululz:  yes, "dpkg -i filename.deb"
[12:20] <ethan_> and when I move the mouse, it lags incredibly
[12:20] <ethan_> it will just freeze and then skip
[12:20] <funkyHat> ethan_, is this a fresh install?
[12:20] <ethan_> its really, reallingy annoy
[12:20] <ce33na> hmm.  still sounds like a ram problem
[12:20] <titaniululz> kemik, thanks
[12:20] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, thats what was happening to me in fedora
[12:20] <ethan_> really annoying*
[12:20] <ethan_> funkyHat,  yes its a fresh install
[12:20] <kemik> ethan_:  somethings seriously wrong with your install/computer
[12:20] <theeil> i have been trying to install ubuntu, but every time it has crashed part way through. i have tried different ram to see if i have fried ram and have tried two hard drives. this happens with every distro, but with freebsd i could just install the base system and reboot to install packages; using "server" at the boot prompt didn't help
[12:20] <brer_rabbit> how is that a ram problem?
[12:21] <titaniululz> ethan_, sounds like your computer is busted. i just installed ubuntu on an old optiplex, 450mhz with 128mb of ram and it was a little sluggish so i upped it to 256 and now it's pretty usable
[12:21] <ethan_> alright...
[12:21] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  it's probably something else then
[12:21] <ethan_> but i dont know why anything would be wrong with it..
[12:21] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, are you running a ppc processor?
[12:21] <ethan_> i mean a fresh install.. and it seemed to go through everything fine
[12:21] <ethan_> yes i am running ppc
[12:21] <ethan_> 500 mhz
[12:22] <brer_rabbit> kemik before I say ram I want some data to back it up
[12:22] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   What do you think?  lol
[12:22] <Goodspeed> crap i just uploaded something in winscp and it gave me persmission denied
[12:22] <Goodspeed> when i ./ it
[12:22] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  what do you mean ?
[12:23] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, at this point I am not sure, but if routines arent running then the path to them is messed up
[12:23] <Exo0dus> #ubuntu-es
[12:23] <kemik> Goodspeed:  "./" it ?
[12:23] <Goodspeed> ./***.bin
[12:23] <brer_rabbit> kemik not enough data to make that conclusion
[12:23] <brer_rabbit> and actually apple tends to use premium ram in their boxes
[12:23] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  well, if you've used different mem.sticks and the problem is the same, it's probably not the ram-memory
[12:24] <ethan_> brer_rabbit, I just tried to launch gaim right now and a pop up just came up saying Error as the title and then  Cannot lanch entry   Details: Failed to execute child process "gaim" (input/output error)
[12:24] <brer_rabbit> oh wait... I think we are on two different problems...
[12:24] <brer_rabbit> heh
[12:24] <ethan_> it did open before brer_rabbit
[12:24] <meuserj|work> Goodspeed, chmod 755 blah.bin
[12:24] <phreakys> is there any gui ftp server out there?
[12:25] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   i just tried to open a preference pane and it did the same thing!!
[12:25] <Bags> Just got a CNN alert that there's a rogue worm shutting down Win2K machines all over the USA
[12:25] <brer_rabbit> hmmm ethan_ that is beginning to sound like a bad hdd but I think running memtest86 may be a wise idea
[12:25] <Rydekull> Anyone in here using splashy?
[12:25] <ethan_> anything i open i think it does that
[12:25] <ethan_> ok where do i get memtest?
[12:25] <ce33na> ethan_: I'm curious. Is your computer thrashing the hard drive?
[12:25] <brer_rabbit> you have to run it from the install cdrom
[12:25] <titaniululz> kemik, i installed pureftpd-common; what should i read now to learn how to start using it and configuring it?
[12:25] <ethan_> ce33na,  Yes!
[12:25] <kemik> titaniululz:  the documentation
[12:25] <ethan_> ce33na,   It will click really loudly too... = <
[12:26] <brer_rabbit> yeah ...
[12:26] <ce33na> Like it is running everything from the swap file?
[12:26] <ethan_> ce33na,   No i looked at my swap and it wasn't swapping yet
[12:26] <ethan_> ce33na,   But just like the hard drive clicking..
[12:26] <Ex-Cyber> Bags: just 2K?
[12:26] <ce33na> anyone remember how to use swapon?
[12:26] <roham_> hi I have some questions about Gnome... how can I make shadows behind windows? and whats is metacity?
[12:26] <brer_rabbit> man swap?
[12:27] <kanbeki> Hello
[12:27] <vitor4130> hi again! i ve been trying to sign in but it keeps saying authentication failed and i ve been disconnected.any tips?
[12:27] <ethan_> So I was shutting down, and it was taking too long so i decided to just force shut down.  I pressed the power button and a bunch of stuff came up saying hda3 is messed up or something over and over 10000 times... lol
[12:27] <ce33na> I really don't know how you could look and see if a swap file was working, but the swapon command should activate your swap partition if it is set up properly.
[12:27] <ce33na> I said file....I meant partition
[12:28] <brer_rabbit> ce33na, Im a rh user and not too familiar with the working of debvian err I mean ubuntu
[12:28] <brer_rabbit> heh
[12:28] <ethan_> ce33na,   I looked at top and it wasn't using any of my swap partition
[12:28] <kemik> vitor4130:  using the correct protocol? using correct username/password ?
[12:28] <jrkettle> How can I change my screen resolution higher then 1024x768 which is the highest that shows up in the preferences?
[12:28] <ce33na> is it showing your actual ram in top?
[12:28] <roham_> hi I have some questions about Gnome... how can I make shadows behind windows? and whats is metacity? anyone?
[12:28] <ethan_> ce33na,  yea
[12:28] <ce33na> the proper amount
[12:28] <ksmurf> I'm tring to install pysqlite for PenguinTV and am have issues.
[12:29] <vitor4130> yeah i think im doing everything right!!!
[12:29] <decaf> roham_: we dont have a stable solution for that eyecandy bullsh*t yet. metacity is "window manager" part od gnome
[12:29] <ksmurf> does anyone know about the install?
[12:29] <kafeine> metacity is your window manager
[12:29] <kanbeki> How do i unrar multipart rar's using unrar, can you give me an example commandline?
[12:29] <ethan_> ce33na,   No application will open
[12:29] <ethan_> it keeps showing that error
[12:29] <ce33na> brer_rabbit: its not too much different
[12:29] <kemik> kanbeki:  unrar e file.rar
[12:29] <kanbeki> thankyou
[12:30] <kemik> kanbeki:  it will continue by itself
[12:30] <brer_rabbit> ce33na, yeah but the commands are
[12:30] <ethan_> this is weird...
[12:30] <kanbeki> kemik, helpful as always
[12:30] <vitor4130> my protocol is aim/icq
[12:30] <roham_> decaf: design/layout is importent, its not bullshit... look at mac :D
[12:30] <brer_rabbit> and the graphical config tools arent present in deb
[12:30] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[12:30] <c0rrupt_> 0.o
[12:30] <ethan_> so ce33na   I go to places and then computer and nothing comes up
[12:30] <ethan_> no matter what i try nothing comes.. ce33na
[12:30] <kemik> vitor4130:  wasnt it MSN that you wanted to connect to ?
[12:31] <Allo> Hey there everyone.
[12:31] <martin_> hi
[12:31] <Allo> I have a question that you probably hear alot
[12:31] <ethan_> ce33na, ?
[12:31] <c0rrupt_> sh00t
[12:31] <kemik> Allo:  let's hear it again
[12:31] <redguy> Allo:  just ask
[12:31] <Allo> How do i get umbuntu to work with my WUSB54G  Linksys wireless adapter?
[12:32] <decaf> roham_: mac means worlds slowest gui on great hardware for me.
[12:32] <c0rrupt_> allo
[12:32] <Allo> Right now i have no internet on that computer
[12:32] <vitor4130> the messenger that when you have windows you can see if your contacts in hotmail are online.
[12:32] <c0rrupt_> use ndiswrapper
[12:32] <Allo> yes?
[12:32] <ce33na> ethan_: from what you have told us..I still think that it is memory related. its hard to diagnose from a chat room though
[12:32] <ethan_> ok
[12:32] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, since you arent using all your memory I dont think the swap is the problem but the fact that you are having i/o problems makes me curious about your hard drive
[12:32] <ubuntu> where do i download amsn
[12:32] <ethan_> ce33na,   I go to the computer from places
[12:32] <c0rrupt_> allo, you need the wusb54g.inf file
[12:32] <Allo> I dont know how to use ndiswrapper
[12:32] <c0rrupt_> its easy
[12:32] <kemik> vitor4130:  use the MSN protocol
[12:32] <ce33na> could very well be a HD problem
[12:32] <ethan_> ce33na,  and it says "computer:///" is not a valid location.  Please check the spelling and try again.
[12:32] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[12:32] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:32] <ethan_> ce33na,   it does that for anywhere i try to go..
[12:32] <kemik> follow the link allerbes1
[12:33] <kemik> Allo...
[12:33] <Allo> ya?
[12:33] <kemik> Allo:  the link ^
[12:33] <ubuntu> does anyone hav a link do download amsn????????
[12:33] <ce33na> not linked properly....you may well have a HD problem
[12:33] <kemik> ubuntu:  use gaim (if you're trying to use msn?)
[12:33] <ethan_> ce33na,   Alright, also when I installed when it was setting up the partitions, it froze on hda3 at 100%
[12:34] <ethan_> ce33na,   It froze on that for about 20 minutes then continued onto the next part of the installation
[12:34] <vitor4130> well im going to see if i can do that. as you probably guessed i dont know so much about what im doing. im just learning
[12:34] <ethan_> is it supposed to do that?
[12:34] <ce33na> shouldnt freeze. do you have any other os'es on that machine?
[12:35] <Allo> im gonna idle here and go try that on my computer...
[12:35] <ethan_> ce33na,   I had os x on it before
[12:35] <ce33na> on a 733mhz machine, it takes me 20 minutes to install
[12:35] <kemik> vitor4130:  Add an account, and in the protocol droplist, choose MSN
[12:35] <ethan_> ce33na,   20 minutes???????
[12:35] <kemik> ethan_:  try OSX again
[12:35] <ethan_> i have 500 mhz ce33na ,  and it took about 4 + hours
[12:35] <kemik> ethan_:  if problems persist, it's probably HW
[12:35] <ce33na> yep...thats about the average
[12:35] <ethan_> kemik,   I want to use linux
[12:35] <kemik> ethan_:  if not, it's probably linux
[12:36] <kemik> ethan_:  not if it's slow like htat
[12:36] <ethan_> it was working fine in os x
[12:36] <ce33na> do you feel that you could multiboot?
[12:36] <ethan_> i cannot open any applictaion righ tnow
[12:36] <ethan_> well i only have less than 10 megs
[12:36] <ethan_> lol..
[12:36] <ethan_> 10 gigs
[12:36] <c0rrupt_> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk
[12:37] <Allo> OK.... It says some gobbledegook about Snyaptic
[12:37] <brer_rabbit> ethan... I think its time to look for a new hdd, but wait until you insert the ubuntu install disk n pass the memtest86 command at the boot prompt
[12:37] <ksmurf> anyone have any ideas?
[12:37] <ethan_> so it should take about 4 hours on a 500 mhz machine?
[12:37] <brer_rabbit> no
[12:37] <Allo> Im a noob to linux
[12:37] <ce33na> not hardly
[12:37] <Allo> What is Synaptic
[12:37] <ksmurf> a pakage manager
[12:37] <ce33na> Allo: it gets new programs for you
[12:37] <ksmurf> package
[12:37] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, it shouldnt take more then 45 minutes to totally install every thing including the net updates
[12:37] <ethan_> can i run memtest right now? or does it have to be from the disk?
[12:37] <Allo> do i download it or is it in Ubuntu?
[12:38] <kafeine> Allo, it is in ubuntu
[12:38] <ce33na> its already there
[12:38] <brer_rabbit> you have to run it from the disk
[12:38] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   Well it took me about 4+ hours
[12:38] <Allo> okay... Oh...
[12:38] <kemik> !synaptic
[12:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:38] <brer_rabbit> yeah youve got hardware problems
[12:38] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   The longest part was the unpacking of the packages
[12:38] <decaf> Allo: System -> Administration -> Package Manager
[12:38] <kemik> Allo:  the link ^
[12:38] <kafeine> Allo, you can reach it through System > Administration
[12:38] <Allo> I hate bots
[12:38] <brer_rabbit> yes... you have hardware problems
[12:38] <Allo> okay
[12:38] <Allo> ill be back
[12:38] <ethan_> brer_rabbit, .. humm.. = (
[12:38] <kemik> what's wrong with bots?
[12:38] <brer_rabbit> ethan_ are you sure you have 320megs ram not 32megs ram?
[12:39] <ethan_> lol.
[12:39] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   I have 320 megs of ram..
[12:39] <ethan_> = p
[12:39] <kemik> it sure sounds like a 32mb system ;)
[12:39] <ethan_> yea i know..
[12:39] <ethan_> but it would run fine in os x
[12:39] <kemik> i mean.. i installed ubuntu on a p2-233, 64mb ram box, and it took just ~1-2 hours
[12:39] <brer_rabbit> ok fine (yes it does) but put in the install disk and reboot... as the boot prompt comes up type memtest86
[12:39] <ethan_> i could easily run photoshop and flash and dreamweaver and whatever else i wanted
[12:39] <ethan_> and it would be alright
[12:40] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, yes  I understand
[12:40] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   Ok do I have to do anything else?
[12:40] <brer_rabbit> osX is a good os
[12:40] <kemik> well, buy a x86 system. ;)
[12:40] <redguy> huh? how do you make a  ??
[12:40] <brer_rabbit> yes hit enter
[12:40] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   I'd rather use linux
[12:40] <brer_rabbit> ok ethan_
[12:40] <kemik> redguy:  dunno what keyboardlayout you have.. but "shift-"
[12:40] <kemik> redguy:   is to the left of 1
[12:41] <ethan_> brer_rabbit,   Do you think it would help to set up my own partition map?
[12:41] <redguy> kemik: not on my keyboard :(
[12:41] <ce33na> ethan_: ten gig is plenty for a dual boot. Give ubuntu three gig for the root drive and 2 or 3 times your physical ram for the swap partition. Use the rest for osx. Dont ask me how. I havent multibooted a Mac since I owned a Powermac 6100 with debianPPC and 7.5.5
[12:42] <ethan_> but i wont be using os x..
[12:42] <ce33na> at this rate, you wont be using linux either
[12:42] <ethan_> i'm done with it... lolol..
[12:42] <ethan_> right.
[12:42] <ethan_> ok so i run memtest86?
[12:42] <ethan_> do i have to put in anything else?
[12:42] <ethan_> or how long should it take?
[12:42] <vitor4130> hey thanks a lot!!! i was able to sign in, but now i have another problem.my friends have to have the same kind of messenger as i? right?! otherwise how can i reach them?
[12:43] <ce33na> outta here. good luck with the mac
[12:43] <Allo> Okay... so i installed the thing using syaptic or whatever... now the next step say:  Call "sudo ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf" where foobar.inf is the inf file
[12:43] <kemik> if neither *BSD or any linux works.. then you might aswell use OSX or get a real computer (x86 ;) )
[12:43] <Allo> What does it mean by 'Call "sudo ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf"'??
[12:44] <brer_rabbit> kemik I feel I must point out that the motorola risc processor puts intel to shame and most components in an apple are seriously better then an ibm clone
[12:44] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[12:44] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:44] <brer_rabbit> therefore that statement reeks of personal bias rather then fact
[12:44] <Allo> i tried sudo ndiswrapper -i media/cd0/autoplay.inf in the thingy... but it said sudo ndiswrapper was invalid
[12:44] <lee_> hola
[12:44] <redguy> Allo: foobar.inf is the .inf file from the driver
[12:44] <kemik> brer_rabbit: "ok"
[12:45] <redguy> Allo: you have ndiswrapper?
[12:45] <lee_> alguien abla espaniol
[12:45] <redguy> !es
[12:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:45] <Allo> Would that be the autoplay file on my cards installation disk? thats the only one called anything.inf as far as i can see
[12:45] <kemik> Allo:  please read the link carefully
[12:45] <kemik> Allo: ndiswrapper-utils is a set of programs which allow .inf files to be used to configure your WiFi card. .inf files are the configuration files used by Microsoft Windows to set up WiFi cards so are readily available. These files can be obtained from your cards (Windows) instalation CD or downloaded from the card manufacturers website. If you are not sure which one to use, try them all.
[12:45] <brer_rabbit> kemik, By the way I have an ibm clone (x86) like most people
[12:45] <Allo> DICKHEAD! I AM! i dont understand what this call thing is
[12:46] <redguy> Allo: 'execute' or 'run from terminal'
[12:46] <QMari1> Allo, language.... :(
[12:46] <Allo> i have that whole artical copy/pasted on the linux computer... but im stuck...
[12:46] <Allo> I did run
[12:46] <brer_rabbit> Allo you arent going to win any support that way
[12:46] <Allo> sorry
[12:46] <redguy> Allo: do you have ndiswrapper-utils ?
[12:46] <Allo> im just really frusterated
[12:46] <Allo> no
[12:46] <Allo> yes i do i mean
[12:47] <Allo> i installed it
[12:47] <TrekCycling> Does anyone here use Ubuntu with GCC? I tried it out today and I have to say that (minus getting used to the way root is handled) I was extremely impressed with Ubuntu. Especially as a laptop OS.
[12:47] <Allo> i went into synaptic and installed it
[12:47] <brer_rabbit> ok...
[12:47] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  well, of course, x86's are better priced ;)
[12:47] <Allo> i tried sudo ndiswrapper -i media/cd0/autoplay.inf in the thingy... but it said sudo ndiswrapper was invalid
[12:47] <TrekCycling> But I need to compile stuff like Ruby from source and GCC didn't seem to install right over synaptic.
[12:47] <redguy> Allo: try sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cd0/autoplay.inf
[12:47] <redguy> Allo: with a / before media
[12:47] <Allo> okay let me check
[12:48] <kemik> Allo:   you tried that from a terminalwindow right ?
[12:48] <kemik> TrekCycling:  try "apt-get build-essential"
[12:49] <redguy> kemik: he did sudo ndiswrapper -i media/cd0/autoplay.inf. Propably within $HOME...
[12:49] <kemik> TrekCycling:  well, that line was b0rked.. but im sure you know howto ;)
[12:49] <TrekCycling> kemik, I get the drift
[12:49] <TrekCycling> kemik, Cool
[12:50] <Allo> " sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom0/autorun.inf    ls: /etc/ndiswrapper : No such file or directory
[12:50] <titaniululz> i'm trying to start an ftp server and getting the error "Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use". how can i find out what is running on port 21?
[12:51] <Allo> " sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom0/autorun.inf    ls: /etc/ndiswrapper : No such file or directory       ANYONE??
[12:51] <kemik> titaniululz:  netstat | grep 21  perhaps
[12:51] <Allo> i did it in the vterminal
[12:52] <kemik> ndiswrapper did install successfully
[12:52] <kemik> ?
[12:53] <brer_rabbit> what is the display reconfigure command?
[12:53] <brer_rabbit> dpkg --reconfigure ?
[12:53] <kemik> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:53] <brer_rabbit> thanks
[12:54] <titaniululz> kemik, i don't seem to be able to get pureftpd to start
[12:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[12:55] <Allo> Kemik: it didnt say that it did... so i assume it didnt
[12:55] <QMari1> Does the program "png2ico" work for anybody?
[12:56] <EnsignRedshirt> This may be  a bit esoteric, but I'll give it a shot.  I'm running warty, and I replaced firefox with the version from the mozilla web page.  That works fine, but now in Evolution, clicking on a URL in a mail message does nothing. I can't find an obvious setting to change, and I didn't find anything helpful in the Help page.
[12:56] <Allo> i dont know what im doing wrong... i did the next step and it gave me FATAL: blah blah
[12:56] <dannyu502_> Allo im having the same exact problem as you
[12:56] <dannyu502_> and i dont know what the fuck to do
[12:56] <evolveall> Can't get Grub to boot Ubuntu.  In Grub right now, please help.
[12:57] <QMari1> I have a problem building the program.
[12:57] <kemik> Allo:  try from the terminal "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils"
[12:57] <QMari1>  #C++ is crazy and they don't listen. 
[12:57] <titaniululz> any suggestions on why i can't run a server on port 21, it says address already in use. what would be using it and how can i kill it?
[12:57] <titaniululz> fresh install of ubuntu + apache2
[12:58] <QMari1> Telnet.
[12:58] <kemik> titaniululz:  port 21 is reserved, only root can use ports lower than 1024
[12:58] <theeil> evolveall: show your grub.conf
[12:58] <kemik> titaniululz:  so, either run pureftpd as root i guess (sudo) or choose a higher port
[12:58] <brer_rabbit> well that may have fixed my problem
[12:58] <kemik> titaniululz:  the FAQ or docu doesnt say ?
[12:58] <titaniululz> isn't that the default ftp port, unless i'm retarded today?
[12:58] <kemik> titaniululz:  yes it is
[12:58] <titaniululz> kemik, it says how to change ports but if i can run it on the default that'd be nice
[12:59] <QMari1> Seveas, are you still here?
[12:59] <kemik> titaniululz:  try running it with "sudo" then
[12:59] <Allo> HERE: Ill paste what it says
[12:59] <titaniululz> kemik, i'm using terminal as root
[12:59] <kemik> Allo:  no
[12:59] <kemik> Allo:  use pastebin
[12:59] <kemik> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:59] <QMari1> Is anyone here a C++ programmer?
[12:59] <kemik> titaniululz:  hmm.. well quicktest a higher port
[12:59] <titaniululz> root@opti:/home/garrett/Desktop # sudo pure-ftpd || Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use
[12:59] <brer_rabbit> bbiab
[12:59] <kemik> QMari1:  what are you trying todo ?
[12:59] <titaniululz> i tried 5000 and it worked, i was able to connect with 'ftp localhost 5000'
[01:00] <dannyu502_> Allo: u get the FATAL: what ever jaun
[01:00] <Allo> Yea
[01:00] <Allo> ill paste it
[01:00] <kemik> titaniululz:  then you're either running some service on port 21, or it's some other weird error.. tried netstat?
[01:00] <titaniululz> tried netstat and nothing was running on 21
[01:00] <QMari1> Kemik, I am trying to run the program png2ico.
[01:01] <QMari1> It doesn't run at all, though.
[01:01] <QMari1> Can you help me, please?
[01:01] <Allo> im not gonna flood it
[01:01] <kemik> it doesnt compile or what ?
[01:01] <Allo> It did install it
[01:01] <dannyu502_> Allo, yeah I'm getting the same exact thing.... what kind of card are you using?
[01:01] <Allo> But when i try the modthing
[01:01] <Allo> WUSB54g
[01:01] <QMari1> Kemik, no.
[01:01] <dannyu502_> Allo, that is the same exact card i am trying to install
[01:02] <QMari1> I can give you the source code.
[01:02] <QMari1> !paste
[01:02] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:02] <Allo> shit mang... ive spent 60+ hours on tech support with indians just for windows issues...
[01:02] <kemik> QMari1:  nah, not gonna go through sourcecode 2nite :)
[01:02] <dannyu502_> Allo, hahahahahahahhaha
[01:02] <Allo> Well i have
[01:02] <Allo> i set up our home network
[01:02] <QMari1> !C++
[01:03] <Allo> any time i have problems i call them and they usually give me new IPS and stuff...
[01:03] <Allo> subnet masks, etc
[01:03] <dannyu502_> Allo, dude fucking.... I think we have to do something with prism54.org cause those r the people that make the little chips for our linksys thing
[01:03] <Allo> BASTARDS!!!
[01:03] <dannyu502_> yeahhh those fucking indians
[01:03] <BollocksMacenzie> I have finally managed it... I've got it so that my ethernet card is shutdown, wifi card activated, firestarter settings changed and network monitor displays the correct connection all load automatically on boot!
[01:03] <Allo> Danny: I know that this card will work on ubuntu... Ive read success stories online
[01:03] <kemik> BollocksMacenzie:  nice :)
[01:04] <dannyu502_> Allo: lol.. success stories?
[01:04] <dannyu502_> Allo: how do we get it to work then
[01:04] <Allo> ndiswrapper -m
[01:04] <Allo> lol
[01:04] <Allo> i duno
[01:04] <QMari1> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=7921
[01:04] <dannyu502_> Allo: I tried installing 4 different drivers
[01:04] <Allo> so youre stuck in the same plaec as me?
[01:04] <dannyu502_> where are you stuck
[01:04] <Allo> fuck drivers... im
[01:04] <dannyu502_> i cant do the sudo mod
[01:04] <dannyu502_> ting
[01:05] <Allo> im stuck on the ermmm...    sudo mod thing too
[01:05] <Allo> yep
[01:05] <dannyu502_> yeah
[01:05] <dannyu502_> here type in
[01:05] <Allo> hmm... this is the support channel
[01:05] <Allo> i cant, its on another computer
[01:05] <QMari1> Dannyu502_, Allo, language.... :'(
[01:05] <Allo> sorry
[01:05] <dannyu502_> ndiswrapper -l
[01:05] <Allo> this is frusterating... plus we arent getting help anymore :((((((
[01:05] <dannyu502_> sorry
[01:05] <BollocksMacenzie> kermik: firestarter wasthe hardest bit, had to copy the config file into 2 other files... Each one had a different internet access card... Then change /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh o that it looked at the right one when loading!
[01:05] <dannyu502_> Allo, tell me what it says when you type that
[01:05] <QMari1> Also, please no "racism".
[01:06] <kemik> BollocksMacenzie:  firewalls is a mess setting up sometimes :)
[01:06] <dannyu502_> Allo, accept my offer to do a DCC chat thingy
[01:06] <MrPockets> whats the code to install Bit torrent?
[01:06] <BollocksMacenzie> kermik: I know, I cheeted and got away without fiddling with iptables
[01:07] <titaniululz> kemik, how do i set it to run on startup? the docs say to add it to rc.local or boot.local but i don't have those files
[01:07] <kemik> QMari1:  that's quite alot of code to browse.. any specific line it's complainin about ?
[01:07] <QMari1> !torrent
[01:07] <ubotu> QMari1: I give up, what is it?
[01:07] <kemik> titaniululz:  debian is different on startup stuff
[01:07] <QMari1> No, kemik. This is not my program, obviously.
[01:08] <kemik> QMari1:  im lost here, you've managed to compile it ? but it doesnt work as it should ?
[01:08] <Allo> Heres teh error
[01:08] <Allo> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:08] <kemik> QMari1:  think a torrentclient is "azureus" or something
[01:08] <kemik> !azuereus
[01:08] <ubotu> No idea, kemik
[01:08] <MrPockets> could someone plesase tell me the code to install bittorrent?
[01:08] <Proccesor> anyone know any good warez/movie servers?
[01:08] <kemik> !azureus
[01:08] <ubotu> I heard azureus is a populat bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[01:09] <brer_rabbit> bittorrent should be installed by default
[01:09] <skapple> it is
[01:09] <kemik> Proccesor:  think youre in the wrong channel
[01:09] <brer_rabbit> I know he is kemik
[01:09] <Proccesor> that would be why i asked..
[01:09] <QMari1> Kemik, I think its complaining about the whole thing.
[01:09] <Proccesor> =] 
[01:10] <QMari1> Here is the program's website: http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/index.html .
[01:10] <titaniululz> kemik, could i put it in xinitrc?
[01:10] <brer_rabbit> debian handles scripts like rh right?
[01:10] <Seveas> Proccesor, we do not support copyright infringrment in here
[01:11] <Proccesor> heh...
[01:11] <Proccesor> i see...
[01:11] <Seveas> ubotu, no azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[01:11] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[01:11] <kemik> QMari1:  im just not sure what you're having trouble with.. are you sure you're trying to compile it in the right manner? (wit the correct flags etc..)
[01:11] <brer_rabbit> well i kinda doubt it but ok
[01:12] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  well, RedHat has that rc.local that runs like autoexec.bat or whatever.. debian/ubuntu lacks that
[01:12] <brer_rabbit> hmmmm
[01:12] <kemik> titaniululz:  about the startup thing, you'll have to ask someone else or try google/wiki/forums..
[01:12] <brer_rabbit> I can still run sh scripts thought right ./install etc
[01:13] <brer_rabbit> ?
[01:13] <CptS> hi! i need help configuring my sound card (NeoMagic 256AV nm2200) under knoppix 4.0 (hdd installed), can anyone help?
[01:13] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  yes ofcourse.. bash-scripts are run the same as in Red Hat
[01:13] <brer_rabbit> k
[01:13] <brer_rabbit> well I am very unfamiliar with deb
[01:13] <brer_rabbit> but fedora has gotten way to sloppy
[01:13] <QMari1> Kemik, what do you mean?
[01:14] <kemik> CptS:  not to be rude, but i think a knoppix helpchannel would be a better place to ask ?
[01:14] <teressa> Hello all
[01:14] <QMari1> The programmer just said to type in "make" and that was all.
[01:14] <kemik> QMari1:  so you have a Makefile ?
[01:14] <brer_rabbit> I think he was saying it installed in knoppix but not in ubuntu
[01:14] <teressa> Anybody know how to make my ipod unmount and disconnect when I close gtkpod??
[01:14] <HrdwrBoB> teressa: it's in the preferences
[01:14] <teressa> *crosses fingers
[01:14] <QMari1> Yes.
[01:14] <teressa> it is?
[01:14] <kemik> brer_rabbit:  oh..
[01:15] <QMari1> Kemik, did you go to the website.
[01:15] <teressa> Where?
[01:15] <QMari1> http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/index.html
[01:15] <QMari1> ?
[01:15] <Allo> anyone wanna help us??
[01:15] <Allo> were both still stuck
[01:15] <kemik> QMari1: when you type "make" what does it say? what happens
[01:15] <HrdwrBoB> teressa: pregerences, input/poutput
[01:15] <CptS> kemik: yeah.. but both distro are debian... and i don't get any answers on knoppix :(
[01:15] <HrdwrBoB> 'handle mounting of ipod drive'
[01:16] <Allo> Someone please help us?
[01:16] <teressa> h aha
[01:16] <teressa> Hey
[01:16] <teressa> you were right, so...
[01:16] <teressa> why does the wiki tell you to add that crazy line of code?
[01:16] <dannyu502_> IM SCREWED!!!! I need help setting up WLAN on Ubuntu... allo and I both have the same network adaptor
[01:16] <QMari1> Kemik, hold on.
[01:16] <kemik> Allo:  cant, but try the web / wiki / forums
[01:17] <teressa> Is that to make the Ipod disconnect?
[01:17] <QMari1> !paste
[01:17] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> teressa: well that also tries to handle mounting
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> teressa: you're better off setting up custom scripts to handle it
[01:17] <juanej> is there any way to make my ubuntu support accents?
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> which is in the tooltip for that option
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> juanej: like zis?
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> ho ho
[01:17] <HrdwrBoB> juanej: it should already
[01:18] <juanej> like a spanish TILDE
[01:18] <juanej> i dont want to change ubuntu language
[01:18] <QMari1> Kemik, http://pastebin.com/338650.
[01:18] <juanej> just to make accents work
[01:18] <HrdwrBoB> juanej: ubuntu is UTF8 by default and can display everything from ascii to pirate symbols to chinese
[01:18] <QMari1> !Linux
[01:18] <ubotu> I guess linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[01:18] <kemik> QMari1:  it compiled without errors here
[01:19] <QMari1> Kemik, it did?
[01:19] <juanej> HrdwrBoB: look like a spanish accent looks here como estas?
[01:19] <juanej> see that?
[01:19] <QMari1> Kemik, what did you do?
[01:19] <kemik> QMari1:  download the source again.. and make sure you have g++ and build-essential installed
[01:19] <juanej> that TILDE should be above the a
[01:19] <kemik> QMari1:  i did nothing.. "wget url" "tar -zxvf png.tar.gz" "make" sort of
[01:19] <HrdwrBoB> juanej: oh you want to input them?
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> juanej: you can use the character map
[01:20] <juanej> but i have a spanish keyboard
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> other than that I don't know what the best method is
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> did you set it up as a spanish keybord?
[01:20] <juanej> yes
[01:20] <kemik> juanej:  maybe try in #ubuntu-es  they may have better insights
[01:21] <juanej> that ppl over there doesnt help
[01:21] <teressa> hrdwrbob: How do I make a costom scipt :)?
[01:21] <skapple> how do i set a folder so that it can be read/write by all users?
[01:22] <kemik> skapple:  chmod 777 foldername
[01:22] <Blazer_ES> Hi
[01:22] <Blazer_ES> It aint working
[01:22] <skapple> thank you
[01:22] <QMari1> Kemik, it still will not work.
[01:22] <kemik> skapple:  actually, that will allow all users to execute aswell
[01:22] <skapple> that is fine.
[01:22] <kemik> QMari1:  and youve apt-getted g++ and build-essential ?
[01:22] <Blazer_ES> I choose the 60giger during install and then it locks up at 12% creating ext3 file system
[01:22] <QMari1> Yes.
[01:23] <kemik> QMari1:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1308
[01:23] <kemik> QMari1:  all i did
[01:23] <DanteAlighieri> Blazrer_ES, they still make 60 GB HDs? ;)
[01:24] <skapple> kemik: will it work recursively, like for all the folders inside that folder?
[01:24] <kemik> skapple:  add the -R switch and it will
[01:24] <Blazer_ES> anyone have an idea?
[01:24] <Blazer_ES> install progress freezes at 12% when creating ext3 file system
[01:25] <Allo> HELP US PLEASE
[01:25] <Allo> we install the correct driver, but it says its invalid
[01:25] <skapple> kemik: how can i make the folder red/write/execut7able by another user, instead of root?
[01:25] <theeil> would ubuntu be OK if i install using this computer, then move this hard drive to another computer?
[01:25] <QMari1> Kemik, I still have errors.
[01:25] <iiiears> !chmod
[01:25] <ubotu> iiiears: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:25] <QMari1> Something is wrong with my computer.
[01:25] <QMari1> !G++
[01:25] <desrt> Allo; you should go write the distraught ubuntu users' manifesto
[01:25] <kevincc> Hi
[01:25] <Karhuton> theeil, it should. If it's configured properly for the another one.
[01:25] <QMari1> !Gcc
[01:25] <ubotu> QMari1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:26] <QMari1> !G++
[01:26] <NoUse> theeil: I think as long as your processor type is the same, otherwise make sure that a generic i386 kernel is installed
[01:26] <desrt> QMari1; apt-get install build-essential
[01:26] <kevincc> How come the Python header files (like Python.h) aren't included in /usr/include/python2.4? Where can I get them?
[01:26] <Allo> KEMIK! Keep helping us, me and danny are both stuck
[01:26] <QMari1> Desrt, I did.
[01:26] <QMari1> It is the newest version.
[01:26] <QMari1> :'
[01:26] <desrt> QMari1; so what error is occuring?
[01:26] <dannyu502_> I AM STUCKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:26] <QMari1> :'(
[01:26] <theeil> ok, i may just have to run xf86config (or something that sounds like that)
[01:27] <kemik> QMari1:  seems something in your system is b0rked, or you're just missing a package
[01:27] <Karhuton> kevincc, have you installed python2.4-dev?
[01:27] <teressa> I can't get it to let me disconnect :(
[01:27] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, I NEED HELP!!!
[01:27] <ksmurf> where do I get the gtkhtml2 python bindings
[01:27] <QMari1> I may be missing a package
[01:27] <Seveas> dannyu502_, caps/screaming will not help
[01:27] <NoUse> theeil yeah X might need a reconfigure but the base system should be ok
[01:27] <c0rrupt_> dannyu502_, how can i help
[01:27] <kemik> skapple:  uhm chmod 777 should make the folder RWX by *all* users
[01:27] <Karhuton> kevincc, header files are always in a separate package - often named -dev
[01:27] <QMari1> Hello Seveas.
[01:27] <teressa> Grrr ipod
[01:27] <skapple> kemik: well it did notm, i cannot move the folder i need inside of nautilus, do i need to restart something?
[01:28] <dannyu502_> Seveas, sry..... c0rrupt_, ummm im still stuck on that problem with the ndiswrapper
[01:28] <herculees> hi
[01:28] <kevincc> Karhuton, I don't see that package in Synaptic
[01:28] <Allo> Corrupt!!!
[01:28] <QMari1> Hello.
[01:28] <c0rrupt_> allo?
[01:28] <theeil> NoUse: great! but it's too bad it will not work on that computer
[01:28] <Allo> Help me and danny!
[01:28] <Allo> Tell him danny
[01:28] <Allo> no, i will
[01:28] <kemik> skapple:  what sort of folder? what sort of partition ?
[01:28] <c0rrupt_> allo, danny have same problem
[01:28] <skapple> kemik: i made it work, thank you
[01:28] <ksmurf> gtkhtml2 python bindings anyone?
[01:28] <Seveas> Allo/danny what's the exact problem?
[01:28] <kemik> Allo:  cant help you beyond that wiki
[01:28] <Karhuton> "apt-cache search python2.4 dev" -> "python2.4-dev - Header files and a static library for Python (v2.4)"
[01:28] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, when me and allo type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:28] <Allo> We both installed the stuff, and when we install the driver and check it, it says its invalid, and therefore we cant finish and just have internet access
[01:28] <cyphase> hey everyone
[01:28] <dannyu502_> it gives us the same FATAL: Ndisk crap
[01:28] <c0rrupt_> hm
[01:29] <c0rrupt_> what did you tie to ndiswrapper
[01:29] <c0rrupt_> ndiswrapper -i what
[01:29] <herculees> how can I change the kernel to an older version in text-mode install?
[01:29] <herculees> I am using 5.04
[01:29] <skapple> is there a keyboard shortcut i can use to copy a file instead of moving it when using drag and drop?
[01:29] <Allo> im gonna go eat... Danny, when i get back tell me what he says
[01:29] <cyphase> does anyone know that stat about 50% of windows computers are 98 or lower?
[01:29] <cyphase> or something like that
[01:29] <QMari1> Hello QMario.
[01:29] <Seveas> ksmurf, python2.4-gnome2-extras: usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtkhtml2.so
[01:29] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, we both have the same Wireless network adaptor and both are stuck on the same spot
[01:29] <kemik> skapple:  press down CTRL i thin
[01:30] <kevincc> Karhuton, I get "samba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix"
[01:30] <kevincc> weird
[01:30] <ksmurf> Seavea Thanks
[01:30] <teressa> whoa... Seveas is stuck on somthin??
[01:30] <c0rrupt_> dannyu502_, you didnt answer my question. what file did you add with ndiswrapper -i
[01:30] <teressa> I canna belive it!
[01:30] <Karhuton> kevincc, Me too, but it's above it :)
[01:30] <Seveas> dannyu502_, dod you try to use all 3 drivers?
[01:30] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, ummm WUSB54G.inf
[01:30] <Seveas> teressa, read better :)
[01:30] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, yes
[01:30] <kevincc>  Karhuton, That is the only result I get
[01:30] <c0rrupt_> hm
[01:30] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, yesand an extra one also
[01:30] <Karhuton> How can I see which repository is providing a certain package?
[01:30] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, and it always said invalid driver?
[01:30] <Seveas> dannyu502_*
[01:31] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, yes for all of them
[01:31] <Seveas> Karhuton, apt-cache policy
[01:31] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, Allo is having the same exact problem as I am
[01:31] <Seveas> dannyu502_, in that case you'd better give up until better drivers are released
[01:31] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, lol
[01:31] <Seveas> especially since the same happens in 2 different settings
[01:31] <c0rrupt_> yea maybe
[01:31] <Karhuton> kevincc: cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) hoary/main Packages
[01:31] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, so i must stay internet free ?
[01:31] <Seveas> ndiswrapper+windrivers is not a guaranteed solution
[01:31] <c0rrupt_> nah
[01:31] <Karhuton> kevincc: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages
[01:31] <c0rrupt_> buy a new wireless card, if possible
[01:32] <mike_> hey
[01:32] <Seveas> dannyu502_, you might have more luck when you compile ndiswraper yourself
[01:32] <c0rrupt_> i use wpc11 version 4..
[01:32] <c0rrupt_> it works
[01:32] <Seveas> there is a much newer version available than in the archive
[01:32] <Karhuton> kevincc, python2.4-dev is those two repositories, atleast. I'm guessing the latter one is the main repository
[01:32] <Seveas> many people have had better luck with that
[01:32] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, but ndiswrapper people said that this wireless card is compatable, infact it was designed origional for this wireless card
[01:32] <mike_> is anyone here good with ysql?
[01:32] <Seveas> dannyu502_, then try the latest ndiswrapper
[01:32] <c0rrupt_> debowned?
[01:32] <mike_> mysql
[01:32] <Seveas> mike22, shoot
[01:32] <herculees> a repeat question, but does anyone know how to change the kernel to an older version through text-mode for 5.04
[01:32] <c0rrupt_> look around the web for newer drivers
[01:32] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, how do I get that
[01:33] <kevincc> Karhuton, Can I just do "apt-get python2.4 dev" ?
[01:33] <Karhuton> Seveas, are header files in 'deb-src' or 'deb' repositories?
[01:33] <Karhuton> "kevincc, you can try: apt-get install python2.4-dev
[01:33] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, Seveas, and more confusing yet,, when i get that how do I install it
[01:33] <Seveas> dannyu502_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[01:33] <mike_> Seveas, i've made a php webstore, and everything works, save for my last table creation
[01:33] <Seveas> Karhuton, deb
[01:34] <Karhuton> kevincc, try updating your repositories with Synaptic or similiar. Python should be available in yours.
[01:34] <kevincc> Karhuton, Not available that way
[01:34] <dannyu502_> Seveas, I already loooked at that site its not helping im still stuck on the sudo modprobe part
[01:34] <mike_> i would like to show you the code snippet, but it's rather long
[01:34] <Seveas> python2.4-dev is in main
[01:34] <Karhuton> kevincc, you _have_ enabled internet repositories, right?
[01:34] <Dime> damn soundblaster
[01:34] <dannyu502_> Seveas, and when i do ndiswrapper -l it sais they are all invalid driver
[01:34] <Seveas> dannyu502_, this is a different one
[01:34] <dannyu502_> s
[01:34] <c0rrupt_> maybe you have a differnt card version than hte drivers i sent
[01:34] <dannyu502_> seveas oo
[01:34] <Dime> i had it working last night
[01:34] <Dime> now it stopped
[01:34] <mike_> but as i said, it's the only part that does not work, and i think that maybe mysql does not like the amount of entries
[01:34] <Karhuton> And you're not hanging on some cd distribution of Ubuntu?
[01:35] <c0rrupt_> dannyu502_, what chipset does it use?
[01:35] <kevincc> Karhuton,  I don't know :P
[01:35] <Seveas> mike_, try a pastebin
[01:35] <c0rrupt_> rt2500?
[01:35] <c0rrupt_> i need to know
[01:35] <c0rrupt_> ;\
[01:35] <Dime> anyone here have a ISA soundblaster?
[01:35] <dannyu502_> it uses
[01:35] <dannyu502_> the
[01:36] <Karhuton> Seveas, kevincc propably doesn't have any other repositories besides the original cd-rom (thus he doesn't have python2.4-dev available). Can you point him to a wiki on how to enable the internet repositories?
[01:36] <dannyu502_> Prism54
[01:36] <dannyu502_> chipset
[01:36] <Seveas> mysql should handle a large amount of entries just fine, so please paste the error on the pastebin too
[01:36] <c0rrupt_> oh
[01:36] <c0rrupt_> hm
[01:36] <Seveas> !tell kevincc about repos
[01:36] <c0rrupt_> maybe the drivers i gave you were for rt2500
[01:36] <herculees> what can I do when I get Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task!
[01:36] <Allo> well im using drivers off of the disc that came... i have tested them all lyet
[01:36] <kevincc> Thanks
[01:36] <c0rrupt_> dannyu502_, if it uses prism54
[01:36] <Seveas> herculees, panic :)
[01:37] <c0rrupt_> just use the prism54 drivers, not ndiswrapper
[01:37] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_m the one you gave me was the wrong one but i have the drivers from the disk installed too
[01:37] <herculees> hehe, I am panicing right now :)
[01:37] <Karhuton> herculees, I like to scream into a pillow
[01:37] <Seveas> herculees, at which point does this happen?
[01:37] <Allo> *came with it
[01:37] <herculees> right after RAMDISK
[01:37] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt, how do i install the prism54 drivers, i was trying but i got raelly confused
[01:37] <c0rrupt_> sec
[01:37] <Seveas> herculees, ah install cd?
[01:37] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, go to www.prism54.org
[01:37] <herculees> yes
[01:38] <herculees> 5.04
[01:38] <Seveas> which ubuntu version?
[01:38] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt, thats the site
[01:38] <herculees> RAMDISK driver initialized : 16 RAM disks of ... size ... etc....
[01:38] <herculees> then invalid operand: 0000 [#1]  ... PREEMPT ....
[01:38] <Seveas> herculees, which ubuntu version, which architecture?
[01:39] <herculees> somewhere I read that I can fix it by changing to older kernel version
[01:39] <herculees> as I said, it is 5.04 for intel x86
[01:39] <Seveas> hmm
[01:39] <Seveas> never seen that before...
[01:39] <Seveas> what type/speed of CPU?
[01:40] <abdula> Bill Gates Strikes a Pose for Teen Beat Photospread, 1983 --> http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=85
[01:40] <herculees> 3.0 Ghz Pentium
[01:40] <herculees> 4
[01:40] <Seveas> stupid spammer
[01:40] <dannyu502_> hahah
[01:40] <mike_> Seveas, http://winpvr.mine.nu/code.php-issue.txt
[01:40] <c0rrupt_> Lol
[01:40] <kevincc> Karhuton, Seveas Thanks again!
[01:41] <Seveas> mike_, i'm looking now..
[01:41] <dannyu502_> c0rrupt_, did u find out how to install that driver from www.prism54.org
[01:41] <c0rrupt_> nien
[01:41] <mike_> i have an entire section commented out for debug
[01:41] <dannyu502_> :-(
[01:41] <X_Naut> wow
[01:41] <mike_> and it is the only part that does cause issue
[01:42] <c0rrupt_> god damn nessus, still wont connect
[01:42] <dannyu502_> seveas, do you know how to install the driver I need which is from www.prism54.org?
[01:42] <c0rrupt_> should i just re-install?
[01:42] <mike_> mysql says error in syntax near 'VARCHAR(50), fax VARCHAR(50)
[01:42] <Allo> Danny, arent you using the wusb54g??
[01:42] <mike_> though my syntax is the same everywhere
[01:43] <theeil> mike_: what was the whole line you entered
[01:43] <dannyu502_> Allo, yeahhh
[01:43] <Allo> then try all of the drivers off the disc it came with
[01:43] <Seveas> mike_, above FAX at about 1/3 you close a statement but don't open a new one
[01:43] <Allo> im in the process currently
[01:43] <Blazer_ES> happeneed again ! my install progress always freezes at 12% when creating the ext 3 file system
[01:43] <Allo> Ill be back
[01:43] <dannyu502_> Allo, but prism54 makes the chipset for the WUSB54G
[01:43] <Bags> any folks here know anythign about PPC?
[01:43] <dannyu502_> Allo, thats where the 54 comes from
[01:43] <mike_> yes, i closed it for the purpose of seeing if it would run from above that
[01:43] <dannyu502_> seveas, do you know how to install the driver I need which is from www.prism54.org?
[01:44] <Seveas> mike_, and it did?
[01:44] <Seveas> mike_, ah !
[01:44] <mike_> i closed after before fax.
[01:44] <Bags> The installation seemed to be going really well. I got through to the part where it says it's now going to reboot into the Ubuntu OS and intall the rest of th epackages, but when it came back, all I got was a question mark. Then after a number of reboots, all I get is a black screen.
[01:44] <mike_> then ran code again in www
[01:44] <mike_> no luck
[01:44] <Seveas> check is a reserved word afaik
[01:44] <mike_> oh
[01:44] <Ice9> QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given
[01:44] <mike_> i should use ck?
[01:44] <Ice9> whats that supposed to mean
[01:44] <Seveas> try escaping all table/column names with ``
[01:44] <Seveas> like `fax`
[01:44] <mike_> hm
[01:45] <Seveas> Ice9, that you need to install libqt3-mt-dev
[01:45] <mike_> with the back tick?
[01:45] <Seveas> yes
[01:45] <mike_> hmmmmm
[01:45] <ksmurf> I'm getting this error  unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory).  How do I fix it?
[01:45] <mike_> if this works, i'll send you ram or something
[01:45] <mike_> :-X
[01:45] <mike_> i get paid good for this job
[01:45] <dannyu502_> seveas, do you know how to install the driver I need which is from www.prism54.org?
[01:45] <Seveas> mike_, indeed, check is a reserved word
[01:45] <mike_> ahh
[01:45] <mike_> stupid me
[01:46] <mike_> i don't know the mysql too well
[01:46] <Seveas> it is also always good practice to quote table/database/column names
[01:46] <ksmurf> not stupid just not informed
[01:46] <mike_> well, looks like i have much work to back tick
[01:46] <mike_> hahaha
[01:46] <Seveas> dannyu502_, sudo modprobe prism54
[01:46] <phreakys> hi
[01:46] <ksmurf> hey phreak
[01:47] <Seveas> 'nacht phreakys
[01:47] <phreakys> howdy
[01:47] <ksmurf> bonjour
[01:47] <phreakys> :)
[01:47] <ksmurf> ;>
[01:47] <ksmurf> just bugging ya
[01:48] <phreakys> :p
[01:48] <Allo> Okay, heres a problem, if i put in -e instead of the -i, like i wanna delete it, it says it doesnt exist, but if i put in the -i it says its already installed
[01:48] <c0rrupt_> LOL
[01:48] <c0rrupt_> @allo
[01:48] <c0rrupt_> debowned
[01:48] <Allo> :(
[01:48] <Allo> well fix it damn you!
[01:48] <dfeed_> if I want to install flash and java plug-ins for firefox, would it be more sensible to install them from within firefox or from packages?
[01:48] <ksmurf> I'm getting this error  unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory).  How do I fix it?  I'm tring to install PenguinTV.
[01:49] <phreakys> packages dfeed
[01:49] <Allo> HEY!!! IM GETTING THE HELp, YOU WAIT IN LINE!!!
[01:49] <phreakys> ;)
[01:49] <Seveas> Allo, drop the caps
[01:49] <nekohayo> could someone fire up Audacity, and tell me if the ABOUT dialog displays something else than squares?
[01:49] <theeil> ksmurf: does it exist?
[01:49] <Allo> otay :(
[01:49] <Seveas> rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper may help Allo
[01:49] <dfeed_> ok, time to read some wiki pages, I feel.
[01:49] <Bags> any folks here know much about PPC?
[01:49] <Seveas> dfeed_, always packages
[01:49] <phreakys> is there any nongeek tutorial on the net about postfix somewhere?
[01:49] <cafuego> Bags: yes
[01:49] <dannyu502_> Seveas, me and allo have the same problem fyi :-D
[01:50] <Allo> just put rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper in the prompt?
[01:50] <phreakys> or a gui replacement whatsoever?
[01:50] <c0rrupt_> he knows.
[01:50] <Blazer_ES> Why the hell does my install always freeze at 12% when creating ext3 someone must have an idea -.-
[01:50] <Seveas> dfeed_, flashplayer-mozilla (from multiverse) and java from sun or a 3rd party repository
[01:50] <c0rrupt_> does nessus have an irc channel anywhere?
[01:50] <dfeed_> ooh, extra helpful, thanks Seveas.
[01:50] <Bags> cafuego, Oh, thank goodness...
[01:50] <c0rrupt_> oh here
[01:50] <ksmurf> theeil no it does not exist but do I just make the dir or is there something else I have to do?
[01:51] <theeil> Blazer_ES: ubuntu installer or are you making a new partition yourself, does this just happen w/ ext3 filesystem
[01:51] <Bags> cafuego, The installation seemed to be going really well. I got through to the part where it says it's now going to reboot into the Ubuntu OS and intall the rest of th epackages, but when it came back, all I got was a question mark. Then after a number of reboots, all I get is a black screen.
[01:51] <robertj> is the procedure for setting up WPA the same for all ndiswrapper-based cards?
[01:51] <theeil> ksmurf: well you DO need the makefile...
[01:51] <Seveas> robertj, yes
[01:51] <ksmurf> theeil I'm losey at figuring these things out me=n00b
[01:52] <Allo> SEVEAS:  "Cannot remove '/etc/ndiswrapper': Permission Denied"
[01:52] <theeil> ksmurf: do you have python?
[01:52] <dannyu502_> Allo, rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper removes ndiswrapper
[01:52] <Blazer_ES> no I choose the 3rd HDD to delete everything
[01:52] <dannyu502_> Allo, LOL!!!! I GOT THE SAME EXACT ERROR MESSAGE
[01:52] <ksmurf> theeil python 2.4
[01:52] <theeil> print full output on #flood
[01:52] <Seveas> Allo, sudo
[01:52] <Allo> ah
[01:52] <Allo> okay
[01:52] <Bags> cafuego, I think I have a bad Open Firmware Config
[01:52] <robertj> Seveas: does http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html look like it should work?
[01:53] <dannyu502_> Allo, type in sudo
[01:53] <dannyu502_> Allo, type in sudo thne it works
[01:53] <ksmurf> ah screw it.  Time to try breezy
[01:53] <ksmurf> bbl
[01:53] <Allo> okay, now what?
[01:53] <Bags> cafuego, Either that, or it's booting into some wierd screen config that my monitor won't agree to.
[01:53] <Allo> the whole directory is gone now... so what do i do now?
[01:53] <Seveas> robertj, doen't look bad
[01:53] <ksmurf> theeil thanks
[01:53] <Allo> reinstall the driver?
[01:54] <dannyu502_> Allo, i tihnk we have to reinstall ndiswrapper
[01:54] <Bags> I can see it's IP address appearing on the LAN, and strangely, it's actually serving on port 110...
[01:54] <cafuego> Bags: Then I don't think boot loader installation completed corectly.
[01:54] <Bags> Right.
[01:54] <Allo> fuck
[01:54] <Allo> :x
[01:54] <Bags> cafuego, Right.
[01:54] <Bags> cafuego, Any ideas?
[01:55] <c0rrupt_>                                  ] 
[01:55] <Bags> cafuego, I can't get an Open Firmware console to work with...
[01:55] <nekohayo> anyone got a few seconds to fire up audacity?
[01:55] <cafuego> Bags: Can you access the install if you boot the install cd, then mount it and chroot into it?
[01:55] <nekohayo> just want to know if it displays something else than squares in the about dialog
[01:55] <Allo> Any ideas??
[01:55] <Bags> cafuego,
[01:55] <Allo> ill try reinstalling the drivers too??
[01:55] <dannyu502_> Allo, I am lost
[01:55] <Bags> cafuego, I'll try
[01:55] <cafuego> Bags: okies.
[01:55] <robertj> well' ill give it a go
[01:56] <dannyu502_> Allo, we've gotta install the new version of ndiswrapper
[01:56] <Allo> Danny... where at?? I deleted it, now i reinstalled it with synaptic, now what?
[01:56] <cafuego> Bags: AFter that, see if you can run mkosboot and ybin by hand.
[01:56] <Allo> i think i got the new version
[01:56] <cafuego> Bags: (in the chroot)
[01:56] <dannyu502_> Allo, nooo you cant get it from syaptic
[01:56] <cafuego> `mkofboot' even
[01:56] <dannyu502_> Allo, talk to me in our private room
[01:56] <Allo> NO
[01:56] <dannyu502_> YESSS
[01:56] <Allo> I know i know...
[01:57] <_pax> This is offtopic, but pardon me, I just can't resist not sharing this piece of news "An unidentified software virus was being blamed for computer system outages on Tuesday at ABC News, CNN and the New York Times.."
[01:57] <Blazer_ES> That new one that restarts the pc?
[01:58] <theeil> is there an easy way to disable the gnome desktop?
[01:58] <MrPockets> whats the URL paste site?
[01:58] <brer_rabbit> what version of gcc does ubuntu use?
[01:58] <nekohayo> theeil, you mean the icons?
[01:58] <brer_rabbit>  hoary 5.4/
[01:58] <cafuego> !info gcc
[01:58] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[01:58] <theeil> nekohayo: yes
[01:58] <_pax> MrPockets: go to any news site. I spammed enough :)
[01:58] <nekohayo> ok
[01:58] <Bags> cafuego, Can't get it to boot off the cd now...
[01:58] <brer_rabbit> k thanks
[01:58] <nekohayo> theeil, ALT-F2, type gconf, enter, then navigate to
[01:58] <cafuego> Bags: d'oh. Can you zap the pram, then boot off cd?
[01:58] <phreakys> has ubuntu a telnetserver by default?
[01:58] <MrPockets> _pax,  im not so sure i understand
[01:58] <nekohayo> oops sorry
[01:58] <nekohayo> not alt ft
[01:59] <Seveas> phreakys, no
[01:59] <cafuego> phreakys: no.
[01:59] <Bags> cafuego, I'll try
[01:59] <cafuego> phreakys: telnet bad, fire angry!
[01:59] <phreakys> ok, tnx
[01:59] <MrPockets> im looking for the site i use if i want to show you a long code
[01:59] <nekohayo> theeil, find it in the system tools menu
[01:59] <phreakys> telnet is allright isnt it?
[01:59] <nekohayo> "configuration editor"
[01:59] <cafuego> phreakys: cleartext passwords, bad
[01:59] <nekohayo> theeil, then apps > nautilus
[01:59] <nekohayo> > desktop
[01:59] <phreakys> hmm, any alternatives?
[01:59] <cafuego> phreakys: 'ssh' is by far preferred
[01:59] <theeil> nekohayo: don't have gconf, is that the only way
[01:59] <phreakys> ic
[01:59] <Seveas> ubotu, telnet is bad, use ssh (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SAHHowto)
[01:59] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[02:00] <Seveas> ubotu, no telnet is bad, use ssh (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto)
[02:00] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:00] <nekohayo> theeil, use the system tools menu
[02:00] <phreakys> k, ill check for a outofthebox ssh server then :)
[02:00] <cafuego> phreakys: if you need to get in from window,s download and use putty (free)
[02:00] <equex> can anyone suggest a program that can read the various logs that the system puts everywhere and present them in a central event viewer of some kind ?
[02:00] <tweekken> ftp is equally BAD
[02:00] <nekohayo> theeil, and use "configuration editor"
[02:00] <cafuego> phreakys: 'apt-get install openssh-server'
[02:00] <piotrek21> Anybody from Poland?
[02:00] <cafuego> tweekken: At least you can 'su -' using ftp
[02:00] <theeil> nekohayo: but i don't have it ;(
[02:00] <Seveas> phreakys, sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[02:00] <nekohayo> hmm weird
[02:01] <nekohayo> you could apt-get install gtweakui
[02:01] <Blacksheep> hi i have problem with my mic...i have sound but i dont can use my mic
[02:01] <iiiears> cafuego - what is freenx - seen  it mentioned alongside ssh.
[02:01] <tweekken> openssh allows for  ssh in place of rsh and telnet    and sftp in place of ftp
[02:01] <cafuego> !info freenx
[02:01] <Seveas> freenx is a vnc-like remote desktop connection
[02:01] <Seveas> it's amazingly fast
[02:01] <cafuego> freenx isn't packaged, thus does not exist.
[02:01] <iiiears> lol - okay. google is a newbs best friend. thanks. :)
[02:01] <theeil> nekohayo: last time i used it, gnome didn't work the next day
[02:01] <c0rrupt_> MMMMMMM
[02:01] <Seveas> cafuego, hoary-extras has it :)
[02:01] <c0rrupt_> honey monkey
[02:01] <tweekken> cafuego lol
[02:02] <piotrek21> not working gadu-gadu
[02:02] <Bags> cafuego, Zapping the P-Ram causes it to restart (I can hear the chime) but I still don't get any output to the screen... I can hear the CDROM spinning up, but I don't know what the Mac is doing... No output on the graphics card...
[02:02] <cafuego> Bags: Could it be running a LONG ram check?
[02:02] <cafuego> Bags: Or do you have a dual input DVI/VGA screen?
[02:03] <Kyral> I got breezy to work :D
[02:03] <Bags> cafuego, I have to hang some washing out on the line now... I'll be back in a few minutes... (I'm working from home, wife's in hospital, I'm caring for our 5 yo... ;-)
[02:03] <piotrek21> who want help me?
[02:03] <Karhuton> !fglrx
[02:03] <ubotu> methinks fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:03] <c0d3ster> im having PHP trouble =/
[02:03] <c0d3ster> Error: Extension MySQL was not found compiled and loaded in the PHP interpreter. SQLyog requires this extension to work properly.
[02:03] <Bags> cafuego, No, only one input.
[02:03] <Seveas> piotrek21, for polish people -> #ubuntu-pl
[02:03] <Seveas> c0d3ster, php4-mysql
[02:03] <Bags> I've tested the monitor.
[02:03] <cafuego> c0d3ster: sudo apt-get install php4-mysql; sudo apache2ctl graceful
[02:03] <jrkettle> Hi, How can I get my screen resolution to go higher then 1024x768 when that is the highest resolution in the settings? I know my monitor supports higher.
[02:03] <Seveas> cafuego, what's that second part for?
[02:03] <Bags> cafuego, I've tested the monitor on my IBM server here and it's working fine.
[02:03] <Seveas> reloding?
[02:04] <cafuego> Bags: okay (my LCD sometimes tried to use vga when the mac is connected via dvi)
[02:04] <cafuego> Seveas: yep
[02:04] <Bags> cafuego, What I may do is swap out the GPU.
[02:04] <cafuego> speaking of washing
[02:04] <iiiears> jrkettle, - ask ubotu about !display or !resolution
[02:04] <Bags> I've got another one here that may force a reset of the settings...
[02:04] <phreakys> ok, night
[02:04] <Bags> cafuego, I've got another one here that may force a reset of the settings...
[02:04] <iiiears> !display
[02:04] <ubotu> display is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[02:04] <brer_rabbit> hmmm so far java install is a failure... while it installed the plugin doesnt seem to be recognized
[02:04] <Blacksheep> jrkettle you must set the vsync and the hsync to the data in your handbook of the monitor. yuo found v and high sync in xorg.conf
[02:05] <jrkettle> thanks
[02:05] <brer_rabbit> ah well work on that latger
[02:05] <brer_rabbit> uh later
[02:05] <Bags> cafuego, I have to hang some washing out on the line now... I'll be back in a few minutes... (I'm working from home, wife's in hospital, I'm caring for our 5 yo... ;-)
[02:05] <FF|Alex> Hellio
[02:06] <Blacksheep> jrkettle i use 1200x1600 can your monitor this??
[02:06] <Alexg> need some guidance please
[02:06] <c0d3ster> Seveas and Cafuego: I already have php4-mysql installed, and i have no idea what "sudo apache2ctl graceful" just did, but Im still running into the same error
[02:06] <xin> Hello. Im trying to install Ubuntu on my Cd-Less, Floppy-Less laptop. Ive figured I can boot into single user mode on the existing debian install. Format the disks then install Ubuntu from a USB CD drive. Now, Is this possible and how would I go about doing it?
[02:07] <Seveas> c0d3ster, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[02:07] <Allo> soooo... Seveas or C0rrupted: Any ideas why its still not working?
[02:07] <Alexg> umm when i boot into ubuntu i get the bash command lnie interface,how the hell do i get the gui interface?
[02:07] <Blacksheep> jrkettle my  monitor settings: Section "Monitor"
[02:07] <Blacksheep> 	Identifier	"Standardbildschirm"
[02:07] <Blacksheep> 	Option		"DPMS"
[02:07] <Blacksheep> 	HorizSync	30-75
[02:07] <Blacksheep> 	VertRefresh	50-85
[02:07] <Blacksheep> EndSection
[02:07] <nekohayo> Alexg, the command is startx
[02:07] <Alexg> hmm that didnt work
[02:07] <nekohayo> you will probably have errors.
[02:07] <Alexg> when i tried
[02:07] <Alexg> =/
[02:07] <nekohayo> what's the output?
[02:07] <Seveas> Allo, did you try sudo modprobe prism54?
[02:07] <Alexg> umm
[02:07] <Seveas> it has native linux drivers...
[02:07] <Alexg> unreackonised command
[02:08] <nekohayo> ......uh?
[02:08] <Alexg> yeh
[02:08] <nekohayo> did you do it as root?
[02:08] <Alexg> no
[02:08] <nekohayo> sudo startx
[02:08] <dannyu502_> Seveas, yeah but i dont know how to install the prism54 drivers
[02:08] <c0d3ster> Seveas: =/ I still get the error... would re-installing fix it?
[02:08] <Alexg> i have no idea what my root password is
[02:08] <Alexg> =/
[02:08] <nekohayo> sudo uses your own password
[02:08] <Seveas> dannyu502_, THAT loads the prism54 drivers
[02:08] <Seveas> they are already there
[02:08] <Alexg> login using sudo then
[02:09] <Alexg> ?
[02:09] <Alexg> username : sudo
[02:09] <nekohayo> no
[02:09] <Alexg> pass :mypass
[02:09] <Seveas> Alexg, no
[02:09] <dannyu502_> Seveas, ooo so i jsut downlaod the drivers
[02:09] <Seveas> login as yourself
[02:09] <nekohayo> Alexg, login normally, then do sudo startx
[02:09] <mick> hi folks
[02:09] <Alexg> ok ill give it a shot
[02:09] <Seveas> nekohayo, eeek
[02:09] <Alexg> thank you
[02:09] <Seveas> don't run startx as root Alexg
[02:09] <martin> Hi everyboy... i have a simple question... what is the name of the basic fonts similar linux prompt ?
[02:09] <Seveas> simply run startx
[02:09] <nekohayo> Seveas, what?
[02:09] <nekohayo> dunno, I was suggesting
[02:09] <Seveas> nekohayo, running X as root is evil
[02:09] <dannyu502_> Seveas, it gives me a choice to down load Tarballs, 2.6, or 2.4 kernal patches. whcih one should i download?
[02:10] <Alexg> hehe
[02:10] <Allo>  Allo, did you try sudo modprobe prism54?  No, not yet
[02:10] <nekohayo> since "unrecognized command" sounded fishy
[02:10] <Seveas> dannyu502_, neither
[02:10] <Alexg> ok many thinaks
[02:10] <Seveas> it is there already!
[02:10] <pauldaoust> hoo boy. I'm in console right now.
[02:10] <mick> sorry to intrude, but anyone any good with sound here, esp cheapo cmi card?
[02:10] <Alexg> be back
[02:10] <pauldaoust> mick: possibly... what's CMI?
[02:10] <dannyu502_> Seveas, those are the only choices of things ffor me to downlaod fromt he prism54 website
[02:10] <iiiears> !sound
[02:10] <ubotu> I guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[02:10] <Seveas> dannyu502_, are you deaf?
[02:10] <mick> its the card and chip on it
[02:11] <pauldaoust> mick: might be C-Media...
[02:11] <Seveas> i told you 3 times now, the prism54 drivers are already installed
[02:11] <mick> thats the one
[02:11] <pauldaoust> mick: what sorta porblems are you having?
[02:11] <dannyu502_> Seveas, here look at this page http://www.prism54.org/download/
[02:11] <mick> my prob paul is getting the mic to accept input
[02:11] <iiiears> Faxes Seveas a cold pepsi.
[02:11] <pauldaoust> mick: ah. what program are you using?
[02:11] <Seveas> iiiears, thnxs
[02:11] <pauldaoust> (i.e., to record audio)
[02:11] <mick> alsa for sound, arts inkde
[02:11] <mick> and skype is the one im tying to get the mic workng in
[02:11] <Allo> hmm.... what does that site mean?
[02:11] <mick> it uses oss emulation
[02:12] <mick> output is a dream
[02:12] <mick> input is a nightmare
[02:12] <pauldaoust> mick: gotcha. ummmmmmm... gee whiz. where did I see that... can you hear
[02:12] <pauldaoust> mick
[02:12] <malv> anyone know of a good cheap pci wireless card thats well supported under linux?
[02:12] <pauldaoust> mick: ah, that answers my question
[02:12] <malv> 802.11g
[02:12] <Seveas> malv, belkins aren't bad iirc
[02:12] <Karhuton> malv, 'cheap' and well supported don't go together very well
[02:12] <pauldaoust> mick: is it completely silent, or do you get error messages too?
[02:12] <malv> hmmmm, any personal recommendations?
[02:13] <Seveas> malv, don't go for asus
[02:13] <dannyu502_> Seveas, here look at this page http://www.prism54.org/download/
[02:13] <mick> no error  messages, just fainty almost whispering
[02:13] <iiiears> linksys wireless worth a try?
[02:13] <malv> yea, I don't buy anything asus anymore
[02:13] <mick> but im actually talking loud into it
[02:13] <kemik> dannyu502_:  seveas told you the prism54 drivers are already installed (by default) in ubuntu
[02:13] <Karhuton> malv, No, but I recommend finding a wlan device with a chipset that has support in vanilla kernel
[02:13] <dannyu502_> ok
[02:13] <Seveas> kemik, he's blind, I told him 3 times alreday
[02:13] <malv> ok, thanks I'll check it out
[02:13] <kemik> dannyu502_:  "sudo modprobe prism54"
[02:13] <dfeed_> malv: one note about belkins: sometimes they change the chipset between versions, leading to all kinds of hilarity.
[02:14] <iiiears> "hilarity"
[02:14] <pauldaoust> so, has anyone encountered this problem? I did a bit of tweaking to my xorg.conf file (trying out Xinerama), and now when GDM starts, I'm getting this message: "There was an error loading the theme Human" and then goes on to describe how one of the images has a zero width... haven't touched the GDM theme files at all though. The infuriating thing is that, now that my xorg.conf is back to normal, it still does it.
[02:14] <Seveas> nice understatement :)
[02:14] <mick> walv, what about windows driver wrapper project, forget the name for it, means you can use any wireless card as long as it comes with windows drivers
[02:14] <pauldaoust> mick: so the other person *can* hear you; it's just very very quiet?
[02:14] <kemik> Seveas:  mh, guess he's not highligthing his nickname and browsing that webpage... or blind... :)
[02:14] <pauldaoust> mick, walv: that would be linuxant, I b'lieve
[02:14] <titaniululz> anyone try freenx?
[02:14] <Karhuton> mick, ndiswrapper
[02:14] <Seveas> titaniululz, yeah, it rocks
[02:14] <mick> yes paul
[02:14] <pauldaoust> titaniululz: yes, and it's wonderful
[02:15] <pauldaoust> mick: well that blows me away. you're using Hoary, I assume?
[02:15] <mick> nidswraper
[02:15] <mick> of course. 5.10
[02:15] <mick> only asking here after spending 4 days googling and getting sfa
[02:15] <Karhuton> mick, I recommend reading about it first :( I've seen lots of problems with some of the chipsets
[02:15] <mick> too late, i spent my taxed 12 bucks on the card
[02:15] <titaniululz> how does it compare to tightvnc? im using tight right now and its painfully laggy
[02:16] <Karhuton> mick, better check how well is the spesific chipset (and even card model) supported in nids
[02:16] <mick> thing that ticks me off..is that it works fine in winxp
[02:16] <pauldaoust> mick: stupid question, but when you click on the volume control applet, and choose the OSS device (should be C-Media something-something-something) from the File menu, can you adjust the recording level of the mic there?
[02:16] <mick> but i thought with ndis wrappers no need
[02:16] <mick> yup
[02:16] <mick> maxed out
[02:16] <mick> 5v on too
[02:16] <pauldaoust> poop
[02:16] <kemik> mmh,, freenx looks really promising
[02:16] <Karhuton> For example some d-link models refused to work well with the _linux_drivers_from_the_manucafturer_, but ndiswrapper with realtek's driver and some tweaking worked :-)
[02:16] <mick> and so is mic boost
[02:16] <pauldaoust> that answers another question I was gonna ask ^_^
[02:17] <pauldaoust> you obviously know about condenser mics :)
[02:17] <mick> lol paul
[02:17] <mick> actually cheapo mic, just for skype
[02:17] <pauldaoust> mick: that's a real stumper. do you have a dual-boot setup?
[02:17] <FF|Alex> hmm it didnt work
[02:17] <FF|Alex> i got the error
[02:17] <mick> to be honest paul, its the killer app to move the wife to linux
[02:17] <mick> i do
[02:17] <mick> works fantastic in xp
[02:17] <mick> and thats whats ticking me off!
[02:17] <FF|Alex> unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostname()
[02:18] <Seveas> FF|Alex, your /etc/hosts is wrong
[02:18] <pauldaoust> mick: no kidding. I use it to talk to my friend in Florida; the only problem is that it takes command of my sound card so I can't listen to music or watch videos my friend sends me :)
[02:18] <pauldaoust> mick: so you have no mic problems in Windows... hoo boy
[02:18] <FF|Alex> how do i correct this?
[02:18] <QMario> Everyone is now happy.
[02:18] <mick> ah paul...i know where to send you to fix that...
[02:18] <malv> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16839121008 i was considering this card
[02:18] <robertj> ok, good success with wpa_supplicant but my pre-up line doesn't seem to be working although it works fine from the shell and its just as it is in the guide
[02:18] <titaniululz> Seveas, doesn't it require new libc? i was afraid it would break things
[02:18] <mick> can i post links here without getting banned?
[02:19] <mick> relevant links
[02:19] <mick> not spam nonsense
[02:19] <pauldaoust> mick: anything else I'd be suggesting would be just that: suggestions... ideas that might spark other ideas
[02:19] <kemik> pauldaoust:  i think there are workarounds for that
[02:19] <pauldaoust> mick: don't know about any restrictions that way... although I'm in text-mode right now (killed my X somehow)
[02:19] <pauldaoust> kemik: that's the dmix plugin for Alsa thingy?
[02:19] <kemik> pauldaoust:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26567.html
[02:20] <mick> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=1&pp=10
[02:20] <Seveas> titaniululz, packages from hoary-extras are fine
[02:20] <FF|Alex> how do i correct the /etc/hosts pointing to the wrong place?
[02:20] <cafuego> FF|Alex: edit it using a text editor
[02:20] <pauldaoust> kemik: for some reason I can't get it to play well with OSS apps like Skype
[02:20] <robertj> I assume the pre-up script runs as root?
[02:20] <FF|Alex> i have no idea where it is
[02:20] <FF|Alex> kki
[02:21] <mick> kemix, going off to look at that for now
[02:21] <kemik> pauldaoust:   :(
[02:21] <Exo0dus> "ubuntu-es
[02:21] <Exo0dus> #ubuntu-es
[02:21] <titaniululz> Seveas, apt-get install freenx  ?
[02:22] <FF|Alex> its hard as my linux partition doesnt show up in windows
[02:22] <FF|Alex> =/
[02:22] <FF|Alex> damn duel boot
[02:22] <Concord_Dawn> dual boot wins.
[02:23] <pauldaoust> mick: exactly what chipset do you have? if you go 'lspci', what does it list?
[02:23] <FF|Alex> not when windows wont see the linux partition] 
[02:23] <Concord_Dawn> Look for Ext3 on Windows.
[02:23] <Concord_Dawn> in Google.
[02:23] <pauldaoust> mick: actually, easier is this: lsmod | grep -i snd
[02:23] <Concord_Dawn> I'll search it for you one second
[02:23] <kemik> mick:  not sure that url will help for mic.problems :/
[02:23] <tweekken> FFIAlex   get an ext  firewire and/or USB HD  format  NTFS and mount in windows or linux
[02:23] <pauldaoust> sooooooooo
[02:23] <mick> kemik it didnt
[02:23] <kemik> did dannyu502_ and Allo get anywhere with there WLAN ?
[02:23] <FF|Alex> lol
[02:24] <dylan_> which is better:  aptitude or synaptic?
[02:24] <mick> the url  i gave is a much more logical step by step of the one kemik gave
[02:24] <Concord_Dawn> FF|Alex, check out this: http://www.asiatica.org/~ludo/archive/2003/12/Misc%20Stuff_ext2.html
[02:24] <pauldaoust> anyone have problems like mine? totally borking when I try to set up a Xinerama config, and having gdm not be able to use the Human theme?
[02:24] <mick> 2 seconds and lsmod
[02:24] <salil> can anyone help me with mplayer.... it keeps on freezing..
[02:24] <mcquaid> hello anyone familar with gnomad2
[02:24] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: over here!
[02:24] <FF|Alex> thanks
[02:24] <dylan_> Concord_Dawn, which is better aptitude or synaptic?
[02:24] <FF|Alex> ill give it a try
[02:24] <mcquaid> cool
[02:24] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: got a Zen Micro myself
[02:24] <Concord_Dawn> synaptic imo.
[02:25] <dylan_> Concord_Dawn, why
[02:25] <kemik> mick:  ah yes, your url is better... i just like the background on sound frm my url ;)
[02:25] <mcquaid> pauldaoust, i'm getting no jukeboxes found on usb device
[02:25] <c0d3ster> should I completely uninstall apache, mysql, etc.. or can i just uninstall php and then reinstall it??
[02:25] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: what sort of Nomad do you have?
[02:25] <kemik> dylan_:  apt-get is better ;)
[02:25] <Concord_Dawn> dylan_, ease of use, and it comes preinstalled.
[02:25] <mcquaid> it's the zen micro
[02:26] <mick> the url  i gave is a much more logical step by step of the one kemik gave
[02:26] <dylan_> Concord_Dawn, my friend argues that synaptic does not remove everything even with the Remove Completely function.  true or not?
[02:26] <Concord_Dawn> c0d3ster, what are you trying to do? Get PHP to work with Apache2?
[02:26] <theeil> c0d3ster: what's the problem?
[02:26] <Concord_Dawn> dylan_, dunno.
[02:26] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: did you grab the packages from the Ubuntu repository?
[02:26] <Concord_Dawn> but it seems to work well enough for me.
[02:26] <titaniululz> so has anyone successfully set up and used freenx in ubuntu?
[02:26] <mcquaid> yes
[02:26] <tweekken> FFIAlex: my solution was not to have ANY M$       ONLY ubuntu
[02:27] <c0d3ster> yeah, i get this error Error: Extension MySQL was not found compiled and loaded in the PHP interpreter. SQLyog requires this extension to work properly.
[02:27] <FF|Alex> lol yeh
[02:27] <mcquaid> but i have recompiled the kernel previously, but i'm pretty sure i left everything as default for usb
[02:27] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: that didn't work for me either. you need the newest version of libnjb and a couple other things... hang on; I think I might still have the deb packages, and you could just download them off my home computer.
[02:27] <Concord_Dawn> c0d3ster, reinstall the MySQL libs and the PHP package.
[02:27] <mcquaid> ok cool
[02:27] <FF|Alex> ok so which file am i editing to get the /etc/hosts right?
[02:27] <c0d3ster> is there a reinstall command or do i have to remove it then install it?
[02:28] <Concord_Dawn> apt-get --help
[02:28] <mick> anyone got any other hints to get this mic thing going so?
[02:28] <gabriel_> hi everyone
[02:28] <mick> if not, can someone suggest a card they are having succsess with on recording
[02:28] <mick> as in just a mic
[02:29] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: http://cheesefish.net/libnjb4_2.1-2_i386.deb
[02:29] <hippys> can somebody help me, i need to configure a usb modem to connect to the internet
[02:29] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: I'm almost sure there will be some dependency problems when you try to install that package, but I'm not in a graphical environment right now, so I can't check what sort of other packages you need
[02:29] <pauldaoust> mick: My little Creative SoundBlaster Live works great
[02:30] <mick> paul, thats a pci device,right?
[02:30] <mick> no isa cards on this p4
[02:30] <mcquaid> so the one in ubuntu reps gave you the same error initially?
[02:30] <mick> just upgraded from a p2 celeron.   its like going from horse and cart to a ferarri!
[02:30] <pauldaoust> mick: yep. My new motherboard has an atrocious soundcard (some C-Media thingy) that had SOFTWARE-controlled volume, if you can believe it, so I threw a PCI SoundBlaster in there, and it works great.
[02:30] <pauldaoust> mick: no doubt :)
[02:31] <FF|Alex>  ok so which file am i editing to get the /etc/hosts/hosts.allow right?
[02:31] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: yes indeed. couldn't recognise the new Zen machines
[02:31] <mcquaid> pauldaoust, can't seem to get that file
[02:31] <mick> lol the cmedia thingy your refering to is whta i got
[02:31] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: hm, what addy did I give you...
[02:31] <hippys> hey how can i configure my network card
[02:31] <mcquaid> wget is still trying to connect
[02:31] <mcquaid> http://cheesefish.net/libnjb4_2.1-2_i386.deb
[02:31] <mcquaid> it resolved ok
[02:31] <mick> mcquaid did you try deleting your .kde directory?
[02:31] <mick> just in case its bummed that up?
[02:32] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: no 404 error?
[02:32] <mick> sure youll lose local kde settings, but at least its not your data like with windoze
[02:32] <mcquaid> mick... not sure what you talking about
[02:32] <mcquaid> Resolving cheesefish.net... 24.67.23.66
[02:32] <mcquaid> Connecting to cheesefish.net[24.67.23.66] :80...
[02:32] <tweekken> FFIAlex: are you trying to setup tcpd  tcpwrappers?
[02:32] <mcquaid> thats all i'm getting
[02:32] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: hey, that's what I get here too. one sec.
[02:32] <mcquaid> k
[02:33] <FF|Alex> no trying to resolve an error unable to lookup ubuntu getbyhostname() when executing the sudo startx command
[02:33] <mick> ill be back going to check on prices on a creative card
[02:33] <robertj> hrmm
[02:33] <mick> at least i know how to set those boys up :-)
[02:33] <mick> its called stable and trusted ;-)
[02:34] <hippys> hey how can i configure my network card
[02:34] <c0d3ster> does "apt-get clean" uninstall files?
[02:34] <c0d3ster> or is it apt-get remove
[02:34] <pauldaoust> mcquaid: craptastic. for some reason I've got a new local IP so my router is trying to redirect to a computer that doesn't exist anymore. weird. one sec.
[02:34] <pauldaoust> (I'll probably be dumped offline.)
[02:34] <mcquaid> ok
[02:34] <mcquaid> can you do a dcc offer here?
[02:34] <FF|Alex> tweekken: no trying to resolve an error unable to lookup ubuntu getbyhostname() when executing the sudo startx command
[02:35] <RuffianSoldier> im a bit rusty - wahts the command to reconfigure Xserver?
[02:35] <onx> irc.laisladelax.com.ar
[02:37] <juanej>   
[02:37] <FF|Alex> any ideas?
[02:38] <Unununium> Installed Ubuntu (Hoary) a few days ago... the included Firefox seems rather crashy.  It dies (most of the time) when I try to print or "accept certificate permanently"
[02:38] <Kyral> Well, there is a bug
[02:39] <FF|Alex> hmmm
[02:39] <RuffianSoldier> Whats the mouse input bla bla for a HP touch pad on a laptop?
[02:39] <REBELinBLUE> hey
[02:39] <titaniululz> i followed the nx client guide from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40949 but after finishing nxclient is nowhere to be seen. what the?
[02:40] <REBELinBLUE> anyone here used gtkpod?
[02:40] <Unununium> I have
[02:40] <c0d3ster> how do i install the most current version of php
[02:40] <REBELinBLUE> its gtkpod-aac I need to use aac files right?
[02:40] <c0d3ster> sudo apt-get install php4 only gives me php version 4
[02:40] <Unununium> Sorry, I wouldn't know
[02:40] <REBELinBLUE> damn
[02:41] <Unununium> Give it a try; it sounds likely
[02:41] <REBELinBLUE> yeh thats what I have but I get an error
[02:41] <Unununium> Also **faad (I forget the ** part)
[02:41] <REBELinBLUE> "Import of '/home/stephen/Music/Travis/The Invisible Band/01 Sing.m4a' failed: m4a/m4p/m4b not supported without the mp4v2 library. You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library"
[02:42] <Unununium> So search Synaptic for faad :^)
[02:42] <REBELinBLUE> Just tried that ;)
[02:42] <Unununium> Regarding the Firefox crashiness--- does anyone else have this problem?
[02:42] <REBELinBLUE> already installed
[02:42] <Unununium> Install it harder :^)
[02:43] <Unununium> No, sounds like the supplied gtkpod binary wasn't built with this option; wonder why this is a compile-time not run-time choice
[02:44] <Unununium> I'm also having difficulty with printing in general.  The test pages print fine, but for anything else the raw postscript is printed
[02:44] <jeffrae> Hi
[02:45] <Concord_Dawn> c0d3ster, you want the PHP 5 package?
[02:45] <Concord_Dawn> for Apache2?
[02:45] <Concord_Dawn> One sec, I'll grab the repo
[02:45] <Concord_Dawn> it's a third party one.
[02:46] <jeffrae> Does Has anyone ever Upgraded Ghostscrpt in Ubuntu to 8.15?
[02:46] <Concord_Dawn> So I'm not responsible for any damages.... etc etc.
[02:46] <cyphase> anyone here in the SF bay area?
[02:46] <Blazer_ES> I have tried everything......
[02:46] <Concord_Dawn> c0d3ster,
[02:46] <Concord_Dawn> deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter php5 hoary
[02:46] <Concord_Dawn> !php5
[02:46] <ubotu> php5 is, like, available from deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter/php5 hoary
[02:46] <Concord_Dawn> ah.
[02:46] <Blazer_ES> it always freezes at 12% during ubuntu install
[02:47] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas,
[02:47] <jeffrae> I have a printer that is printing goofy and they reccoment Ghostscript 8.15
[02:48] <Concord_Dawn> herm.
[02:48] <pdaoust> mcquaid: you still there?
[02:48] <Unununium> Printing works fine from Windows (ipp); the postscript problem is only from Ubuntu
[02:48] <pdaoust> I had some ummm troubles
[02:48] <Concord_Dawn> Who here can add definitions to ubotu?
[02:48] <pdaoust> thing completely froze up; that never happens
[02:48] <mcquaid> yes
[02:48] <pdaoust> mcquaid: you can try downloading that deb package again
[02:48] <mcquaid> k
[02:48] <mcquaid> cool getting it now
[02:49] <pdaoust> ASSCRAP
[02:49] <pdaoust> I still can't get into X
[02:50] <Concord_Dawn> pdaoust, have you checked your X log?
[02:50] <pdaoust> Concord_Dawn: dang, yer good
[02:50] <pdaoust> ^_^
[02:50] <pdaoust> I'll check it
[02:51] <Concord_Dawn> pft.
[02:51] <Concord_Dawn> I have nfi how to work X.
[02:51] <Concord_Dawn> I just know checking logs helps people to help you.
[02:52] <pdaoust> Concord_Dawn: yeah, X is pretty formidable
[02:53] <mick> log output is pretty good at keeping hr nerds at bay too :-) tip 101
[02:53] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[02:53] <mick> did i say nerds..opps meant herds!
[02:54] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[02:54] <pdaoust> mick: hr, as in, human resources?
[02:54] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[02:54] <mick> is there such a function????
[02:54] <mick> stop and think logically for a second
[02:54] <mick> if your a resource, your an asset right?
[02:55] <mick> in troll accounting terms i mean
[02:55] <pdaoust> oh boy, you lost me........
[02:55] <mick> if your an asset in accounting terms you appear on the balance sheet...
[02:55] <mick> but your salary is actually described under "cost of sales"
[02:55] <pepsi> iiiears, you lit me up
[02:56] <mick> lol
[02:56] <mick> now i dont know about you but i thought most accounting trolls wanted to minimise costs
[02:56] <Blazer_ES> ...........DOES....SOME ONE..... HAVE ......A CLUE ....WHY MY UBUNTU INSTALLATION FREEZES AT 12% ....WHEN CREATING EXT3.....
[02:56] <pdaoust> Blazer_ES: perhaps a corrupted hard drive?
[02:56] <pdaoust> just a thought
[02:56] <mick> therefore ....hr is a load of horse rubbish!
[02:56] <Unununium> Blazer_ES, have you tried using an option besides EXT3?
[02:56] <cyphase> Blazer_ES, what's on the screen when it freezes?
[02:57] <TraceGreen> Blazer_ES, you can try to use Ubuntu-liveCD first.
[02:57] <mcquaid> pdaoust, ok your right i did get the dep errors, i can upgrade libc6 but not libusb
[02:57] <mcquaid> well not in the ubuntu reps anyway
[02:57] <Blazer_ES> Yes I did the live cd works great
[02:57] <mick> blazer is the filesystem unmounted?
[02:57] <mick> check that first
[02:57] <pdaoust> mcquaid: I'll look for that libusb then; I'm sure I have it, if I was able to get my Zen Micro working
[02:57] <dannyu502_> what is the command in the root terminal to delete something?
[02:57] <mick> if yoru buring from cd and you have that partition mounted
[02:57] <Unununium> Blazer, try Alt+F2 and see if you can do anything
[02:57] <mick> it gives off horrible errors
[02:57] <cyphase> Blazer_ES, what's on the screen when it freezes?
[02:58] <mick> ah for the old days of reliable windows...sigh!!!
[02:58] <jeffrae> does anyone know what repository has ESP GS 8.15
[02:58] <Blazer_ES> It just freezes at 12% saying that its creating the EXT3 File system
[02:58] <jeffrae> ?
[02:58] <thundrcleeze> Wiping the first (windows) partition on the hard drive won't mess up GRUB that's installed on the mbr, will it?
[02:58] <mick> sorry jeff, noidea
[02:58] <dannyu502_> seveas, what is the command in the root terminal to delete something?
[02:58] <cyphase> Blazer_ES, have you tried another filesystem format?
[02:58] <Kyral> rm
[02:58] <pdaoust> mcquaid: you upgraded libc6 but not libusb... hm; I can't seem to find a copy of libusb that I downloaded by muself. one sec.
[02:58] <thundrcleeze> dannyu502_, rm
[02:58] <theeil> thundrcleeze: no
[02:58] <dannyu502_> ok
[02:58] <thundrcleeze> theeil, okay
[02:59] <mcquaid> i haven't upgraded libc6 yet but i see there is an update avail
[02:59] <dannyu502_> say i wanted to rm the whole folder ndiswrapper in /etc/ndiswrapper
[02:59] <mick> holy bat crap!!!!!!!!!!
[02:59] <jeffrae> how do I find the url to the debian repositories?
[02:59] <Kyral> do a rm -rf / in a root term to find out why you shouldn't run in a root term :P
[02:59] <thundrcleeze> theeil, just making sure.
[02:59] <mick> its 2am here
[02:59] <dannyu502_> what would i type
[02:59] <theeil> thundrcleeze: it's installed to the mbr, before are part windows can access
[02:59] <pdaoust> mcquaid: what version of libusb is it asking for?
[02:59] <mick> time for me to go horizontal, night boys and girls and thanks for the help
[02:59] <mick> paul thanks for the help
[02:59] <pdaoust> mick: did you ever get the mic working?
[02:59] <dannyu502_> thndercleeze: say i wanted to rm the whole folder ndiswrapper in /etc/ndiswrapper
[02:59] <mick> nope
[02:59] <IcemanV9> dannyu502_: rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper
[02:59] <mick> and practically giving up now paul
[02:59] <Blazer_ES> I just select the harddrive to where I want to install it its a 60gb drive, 58GB ext3 / and 1.5GB SWap
[02:59] <pdaoust> aww... well, best of luck to you
[03:00] <mcquaid> libnjb4 depends on libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.10a); however: Version of libusb-0.1-4 on system is 1:0.1.8-17ubuntu2.
[03:00] <cyphase> Blazer_ES, but have you tried another filesystem format?
[03:00] <cyphase> like reiserfs?
[03:00] <dannyu502_> icemanV9: k thanks
[03:00] <mick> im going to solve it the easy way now
[03:00] <kaleb> Aih galera Alguem pode me ajudar a configura o xmms
[03:00] <mick> throw it out and go for a sb
[03:00] <mcquaid> isn't that greater than the version it's looking for?
[03:00] <Blazer_ES> The drive works fine here in windows when formated to NTFS...
[03:00] <thundrcleeze> theeil, that's good.  I've got to do a wipe of windows - the best way of doing this would be what, format c: *.* or fdisk?
[03:00] <pdaoust> mick: :) sad that it has to be that way. I blame it on shitty audio chips with good Windows driver to cover their deficiencies :)
[03:00] <mcquaid> maybe the ubuntu filenaming is screwing it up?
[03:00] <cyphase> Blazer_ES, yes or no?
[03:00] <mcquaid> considering forcing it
[03:00] <cyphase> have you tried another filesystem format?
[03:00] <mick> is a complete pain in the ass
[03:01] <Blazer_ES> The drive works fine here in windows when formated to NTFS...
[03:01] <Blazer_ES> what do you mean?
[03:01] <pdaoust> mcquaid: well, I'm just wondering what version of libusb is asking for when you try to install the copy of libnjb I gave you... it's been a while since I did this, so I forget it all
[03:01] <mick> like i said if it means i can ditch windows in for a few extra bucks so beit
[03:01] <cyphase> have you chosen something besides ext3?
[03:01] <Unununium> Blazer, sorry if you already answered and I missed it, but have you tried using Alt+F2 to get to a command line from the installer program?  (Alt+F1 brings you back.)
[03:01] <mick> best wishs with getting your xorg sorted paul
[03:01] <mick> and thanks to eveyrone for their help
[03:01] <pdaoust> mick: thanks :)
[03:01] <mcquaid> ya ok, well the version i listed is what its asking for
[03:01] <Blazer_ES> ok I will try that
[03:02] <cyphase> which one?
[03:02] <pdaoust> mcquaid: sorry, I musta missed it (I'm on an 80x25 term)
[03:02] <mcquaid> libnjb4 depends on libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.10a); however: Version of libusb-0.1-4 on system is 1:0.1.8-17ubuntu2.
[03:02] <Blazer_ES> how can I choose something else than ext3?
[03:02] <cyphase> there should be a menu
[03:02] <Unununium> "use as"
[03:02] <Blazer_ES> ah
[03:02] <Blazer_ES> k
[03:03] <Blazer_ES> is ext3 necessary?
[03:03] <Unununium> I use ReiserFS and things haven't broken entirely just yet
[03:03] <pdaoust> mcquaid: I only have libusb 1:0.1.8-17 on my machine, so I musta forced it :)
[03:03] <cyphase> Blazer_ES, no
[03:03] <cyphase> linux supports a looooooot of filesystems
[03:03] <Unununium> How do I install oooqstart-gnome?  The openoffice.org package description references it, but it's not in any Ubuntu package repository.
[03:03] <din> hi zerboxx
[03:03] <zerboxx> din: Heya din
[03:03] <mcquaid> ok
[03:04] <Blazer_ES> ill try to do that now, if it freezes ill try and hit alt+f2 and alt+f1
[03:04] <Blazer_ES> cya
[03:04] <Unununium> Blazer: you don't need to wait :^)
[03:04] <mcquaid> i usually avoid upgrading libc6, i read that can screw up things, but can't recall
[03:04] <titaniululz> i'm trying to get nxserver working. i have it installed but i can't set my password, it says --passwd is not inplemented yet. help? :(
[03:04] <mcquaid> but upgrading now anyways
[03:04] <smiroldo> hi... i have a problem that apt-get install -f cannot fix too...
[03:04] <riffic> anyone package amarok 1.3 for breezy yet ?
[03:04] <Unununium> mcquaid: absolutely everything uses libc, so it's kind of difficult to upgrade; however, it should be safe to have multiple versions
[03:04] <pdaoust> mcquaid: not sure. I think I upgraded libc6 when it asked me to
[03:05] <Unununium> Again, where do I go for packages not in the Ubuntu repositories?
[03:05] <smiroldo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:05] <smiroldo>   kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.3) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[03:06] <mcquaid> Unununium, have you added the backports reps?
[03:07] <Unununium> mcquaid: apparently not :^)  What's the apt line?
[03:07] <mcquaid> damn, i hate generating all these locales, is there any way to avoid that for non english
[03:07] <mcquaid> Unununium, one sec
[03:07] <Concord_Dawn> Unununium, have you gotten multiverse, universe, and hoary-extras?
[03:07] <Unununium> jeffrae: you will want this also
[03:07] <Unununium> Concord_Dawn: yes
[03:07] <Unununium> Wait, not hoary-extras
[03:07] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[03:07] <Concord_Dawn> !extras
[03:07] <ubotu> [extras]  For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:08] <Concord_Dawn> check it out
[03:08] <mcquaid> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiv
[03:08] <mcquaid> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports-staging main univers
[03:08] <mcquaid> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multivers
[03:08] <mcquaid> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras-staging main universe m
[03:08] <mcquaid> oops one sec
[03:08] <Unununium> That doesn't look right
[03:08] <Concord_Dawn> eww
[03:08] <Concord_Dawn> Unununium, hoary extras is deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:08] <Unununium> Danke
[03:08] <titaniululz> anyone using freenx know how to make it connect to the current session instead of spawning a new one?
[03:08] <Concord_Dawn> Unununium, you have security enabled too I'm sure.
[03:09] <Seveas> mcquaid, NEVER paste in here
[03:09] <pdaoust> titaniululz: you mean it doesn't give you the option of reconnecting to an old session?
[03:09] <mcquaid> sorry
[03:09] <Unununium> paste  : heh, I just pasted your paste
[03:09] <juanej> rofl
[03:09] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[03:09] <mcquaid> just pm'd ya them
[03:09] <Concord_Dawn> You want me to paste my sources.list?
[03:09] <titaniululz> pdaoust, i just installed freenx. i don't so much want to connect to an old nx session as connect to the currently running display on the computer. ie i want to see the same thing i see when i connect using VNC. is that possible?
[03:09] <Unununium> Concord_Dawn: thanks; let me get the package list (which takes forever on 28.8)
[03:10] <Concord_Dawn> ouch
[03:10] <hybrid_goth> Unununium: ever use Unununium?
[03:10] <Quest-Master> Unununium looks promising
[03:10] <Unununium> The OS?  No, but I believe I had the name first.
[03:10] <hybrid_goth> lol
[03:10] <hybrid_goth> i wanna try it
[03:10] <Unununium> Interestingly enough, my real-life last name is Goth
[03:10] <Quest-Master> I heard it's simply a command prompt atm
[03:10] <AdmiralSenn> okay, a 'what the hell' moment
[03:11] <hybrid_goth> Unununium: sweet!
[03:11] <pdaoust> titaniululz: ah, I gotcha. I don't think it is, because NX is more geared towards creating and closing entire X sessions, whereas VNC is geared towards shunting large amounts of pixels over a network connection, with a focus on remote desktop
[03:11] <mcquaid> Unununium, offering ya my list
[03:11] <cafuego> Unununium: Did your family get royalties from 'The Sims' ?
[03:11] <AdmiralSenn> just started ubuntu and two seconds later it kicked me into a text-only mode
[03:11] <hybrid_goth> Unununium: like black? j/p
[03:11] <AdmiralSenn> gdm was still running, though
[03:11] <cafuego> AdmiralSenn: That means there's a problem with the X configuration.
[03:11] <mcquaid> whats force again with dpkg
[03:11] <mcquaid> tried -f
[03:11] <Unununium> hybrid: not particularly; it's just the family name
[03:11] <pdaoust> titaniululz: it might be tied to the way X works, with the concept of screens and displays, but I could be wrong.
[03:11] <cafuego> AdmiralSenn: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:11] <AdmiralSenn> cafuego: yay!
[03:11] <pdaoust> mcquaid: --force-all
[03:11] <mcquaid> thx
[03:11] <titaniululz> pdaoust, ah, that's cool then. i guess it doesn't really matter since this machine is headless anyways
[03:12] <titaniululz> pdaoust, the way i'm using it right now is having it run headless and set to auto login on boot, so i can connect with vnc and such. if i'm going to use nx instead, can i set it to not auto login?
[03:12] <c0d3ster> how do I completely remove PHP from my system so I can reinstall it?
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> c0d3ster, remove the packages.
[03:12] <pdaoust> titaniululz: ahhhhh I see. yep, that's exactly what you would do.
[03:12] <c0d3ster> apt-get remove?
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> and do a Completely remove.
[03:12] <AdmiralSenn> hmm
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> no
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> do it from Synaptic.
[03:12] <AdmiralSenn> cafuego: all it says is something about font rendering at the end
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> and check Remove Completely.
[03:13] <AdmiralSenn> as far as warnings and stuff
[03:13] <titaniululz> pdaoust, can i connect with ssh without logging in / connecting with nx straight from bootup? and will apache and such be running (i have it installed)
[03:13] <pdaoust> titaniululz: sshd will be running, as will be apache, MySQL, your FTP server, samba, etc.
[03:14] <titaniululz> ok, cool. i'm going to try turning off automatic login and rebooting. thanks :)
[03:14] <Concord_Dawn> is there a way to make it so that a user can't cd to a directory above their home directory?
[03:14] <pdaoust> titaniululz: that's the way I set up an old music server. no login screen at all, just a computer that sat there indefinitely waiting for remote connections. (all text-based too; no NX on that one.)
[03:14] <hybrid_goth> Unununium: yea i was just playing
[03:14] <Unununium> Concord_Dawn: somehow give them a chroot'ed shell?  That would be problematic
[03:14] <AdmiralSenn> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1310
[03:14] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: ya see how Unununium does their time?
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> Unununium, I am newb, please explain?
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> nevermind
[03:15] <mcquaid> pdaoust, ok i forced it but synaptic lists it as broken
[03:15] <Quest-Master> hybrid_goth: Yeah.. it's.. interesting.. :P
[03:15] <titaniululz> pdaoust, cool :) back in a minute if all goes well
[03:15] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: lol yea
[03:15] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: did you say it is only CLI?
[03:15] <Quest-Master> hybrid_goth: I believe it is currently
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> herm....
[03:16] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: that weird b/c they talk about master GUI sepremecy
[03:16] <Quest-Master> :o
[03:16] <Unununium> If a process is chroot'ed, it sees something other than / as its /.  So how does a chrooted bash do a directory listing if there's no /bin anymore?
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> ah.
[03:16] <benkong2> how can I turn up my cpu speed freq monitor shows its only running at 800mhz it's a amd64 3200+?
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> so how would I set it up so that EVERYTHING got chroot'd?
[03:16] <Unununium> Impossible
[03:16] <oxez> hi I'm considering moving back to linux again, and I'll try something else than Gentoo. Is Xorg currently available as a package for ubuntu? I heard it wasn't for Debian
[03:16] <AdmiralSenn> ack
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> oxez, it's installed by default with Ubuntu
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> as long as you don't pick a server install.
[03:17] <AdmiralSenn> Anyone who can tell me if anything's wrong with my Xorg log http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1310
[03:17] <Seveas> oxez, Ubuntu uses X.org by default -- for breezy even X.org 7 will be shipped
[03:17] <pdaoust> mcquaid: hold on; I think it might be broken here too
[03:17] <mcquaid> ok
[03:17] <oxez> Concord_Dawn: okay, and do you know if there are enough support for my radeon 9800 (gfx card) and logitech mx510 (mouse)?
[03:17] <AdmiralSenn> in any case, /msg me
[03:17] <Concord_Dawn> yes
[03:17] <Unununium> Concord_Dawn, why do you care?  chroot can actually introduce security holes if you're not careful, because most processes treat "/" as a trusted security domain (i.e. su trusts /etc/passwd)
[03:17] <Concord_Dawn> I'm almost 100% sure there is
[03:17] <Chaotic_Reality> what's the command to make a tar file?
[03:17] <Chaotic_Reality> tar -c <directory> ?
[03:17] <Unununium> tar
[03:17] <hybrid_goth> Seveas: yea i fell out when i got the mail list saying X was fixed
[03:17] <black13> someone had mentiond that there is wiki article about building or modifying the ubuntu live cd?
[03:18] <reka> AdmiralSenn: if it helps, i get the same font warnings...and i can boot into X fine
[03:18] <Unununium> Welcome back
[03:18] <Seveas> tar cf filename.tar dirname
[03:18] <reka> AdmiralSenn: i suggest running the xorg reconfigure command
[03:18] <Unununium> You might want to gzip or bzip2 as well
[03:18] <Seveas> tar jcf :)
[03:18] <Concord_Dawn> Unununium, I want to run it that way so that I can have my IRCd, services, stats, etc. and everything to run a server all running under a home directory and I want to give shell access to one other person?
[03:18] <Blazer_ES> With the other File system that ResFS it goes up to 33% and then the screen is just Blue
[03:18] <Unununium> (use -z or -j options to tar to do this automatically)
[03:18] <Concord_Dawn> would it work that way?
[03:19] <pdaoust> I was gone; did I miss anything?
[03:19] <Chaotic_Reality> thanks Unununium and Seveas
[03:19] <reka> pdaoust: we all got free donuts
[03:19] <pdaoust> mcquaid: did you say anything to me while I was gone
[03:19] <pdaoust> reka
[03:19] <pdaoust> dangit!
[03:19] <pdaoust> I should never have left.
[03:19] <deviant> hello. i have a question. anyone here ever intalled looking glass on ubuntu?
[03:20] <reka> *off
[03:20] <Blazer_ES> With the other File system that ResFS it goes up to 33% and then the screen is just Blue
[03:20] <ethan_> humm
[03:20] <Unununium> Alt+F2 do anything?
[03:20] <Blazer_ES> I think the hdd is broken
[03:20] <Blazer_ES> yes it did
[03:20] <ethan_> hello..
[03:20] <Unununium> How about CapsLock, NumLock, ScrollLock?  Do they light any LEDs on your keyboard?
[03:20] <Blazer_ES> brought me to activate a console
[03:20] <Unununium> Good, that's the idea.  Now from that console you can investigate.
[03:20] <mcquaid> pdaoust, just that the pkg is listed as broken
[03:21] <ethan_> How long is it supposed to take when installing when it is unpacking packages?
[03:21] <Blazer_ES> entering which commands
[03:21] <Concord_Dawn> ethan_, depends on what packages you're getting.
[03:21] <Unununium> Oh, you need to be pretty wizardly with the command line to be able to do anything useful
[03:21] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: hmm they moved Unununium to linux
[03:21] <Concord_Dawn> size is a factor.
[03:21] <reka> ethan_: you mean the scrolling text part? a while
[03:21] <ethan_> Concord_Dawn  just whats on the install cd
[03:21] <pdaoust> mcquaid: well, somehow I've managed to SCREW UP even my apt repository, so I can't check anymore. But if I'm not mistaken, I think it's broken on my system too. give it a shot and see if it works for you.
[03:21] <ethan_> reka  alright how long?
[03:21] <Quest-Master> hybrid_goth: Oh, really..
[03:21] <Concord_Dawn> ethan_, install took me an hour with formatting.
[03:22] <Unununium> This is weird; people are talking about me!
[03:22] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[03:22] <reka> ethan_: ~5-8 mins for me
[03:22] <ethan_> Concord_Dawn  Ok it took me like 4 hours lol...
[03:22] <pdaoust> mcquaid: ('broken' is a relative term with computers anyway. they're kinda broken when you buy them ^_^)
[03:22] <titaniululz> pdaoust, it works perfectly :) nx runs AMAZINGLY well
[03:22] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: yup it is in the progress page or w/e
[03:22] <pdaoust> titaniululz: you got it working that quick?
[03:22] <pdaoust> wow
[03:22] <ethan_> reka Yea that part took me about 3 hours with 500 mhz and 320 megs of ram
[03:22] <pdaoust> I'm impressed
[03:22] <ethan_> reka  I don't know whats wrong..
[03:22] <dannyu502_> Seveas, reka, how do I find out what kernel-version I am running (2.6.6 or 2.4.26)
[03:22] <Concord_Dawn> ethan_, I'm running 1.3 Ghz and 256mb ram.
[03:22] <pdaoust> titaniululz: wait... did you already have a working FreeNX installation?
[03:22] <mcquaid> ok well, i was going to install gnomad2 anyways to see if it works, but it wants to force the removal of libnjb
[03:22] <reka> dannyu502_: uname -r
[03:22] <titaniululz> pdaoust, hehe i've only been using linux for 3 days. dumb luck i guess
[03:22] <Unununium> dannyu502: uname
[03:23] <pdaoust> titaniululz: no kidding. gee whiz, it took me ages to set up FreeNX
[03:23] <titaniululz> pdaoust, no i just dicked around with apt-get and synaptic a few times and then it worked
[03:23] <ethan_> reka  I think somethings wrong with mine
[03:23] <TheGnome> hmmm
[03:23] <pdaoust> titaniululz: stunning
[03:23] <ethan_> because I installed it yesterday and nothing worked
[03:23] <TheGnome> ethan_, it didnt really take 4 hours did it?
[03:23] <ethan_> TheGnome  it did... = <
[03:23] <reka> ethan_: just to confirm...the part where white text scrolls on a black b/g.....saying unpacking this package etc.
[03:23] <ethan_> reka yes..
[03:24] <reka> ethan_: well, i'm on a p4, but 4 hrs seems like a long while
[03:24] <Blazer_ES> ahh ditch it, thanks anyway bye
[03:24] <TheGnome> my whole install is done in less than twenty......and when i installed on a P1 wirh 128 megs ram ....it only took like an hour
[03:24] <titaniululz> pdaoust, lord only knows how many things i broke in doing so :O
[03:24] <xbaez> Hello all!
[03:24] <pdaoust> titaniuluz: heh, no doubt. but if it works great, that's fine
[03:24] <reka> ethan_: going by what TheGnome said, something's wrong then
[03:25] <TheGnome> ethan_, how does it run.....now?
[03:25] <pdaoust> BLOODY HELL! this is almost as bad as Windows; everything is just... failing! I gotta reboot
[03:25] <Quest-Master> lmao.
[03:25] <TheGnome> i still have ubuntu on that p1   ....... im just using icewm
[03:25] <zovirl> what's ubuntu equivilant of "service httpd restart"?  Is it something easier than /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?
[03:25] <ethan1> I'm sorry my thing messed up
[03:25] <TheGnome> and it works great
[03:25] <Concord_Dawn> zovirl, no.
[03:25] <titaniululz> i'm using xchat right now -- is there a way to get it to automatically connect to servers and channels? (if yes ill look up the docs on howto)
[03:26] <zovirl> concord_dawn ok thanks
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> yes.
[03:26] <ethan1> ok anyways...
[03:26] <thundrcleeze> is there a way to back up grub or boot into ubuntu if grub is deleted from the mbr?
[03:26] <ethan1> so is my computer totally messed up?
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> thundrcleeze, if you have a Ubuntu boot disk
[03:26] <reka> titaniululz: yes. xchat > server list
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> ethan1, what's wrong?
[03:26] <TheGnome> ethan1, how long does an xp install take
[03:26] <ethan1> I'm using a mac
[03:26] <reka> titaniululz: then edit the server
[03:26] <titaniululz> reka, oh jeez i see now. thanks
[03:26] <ethan1> ibook
[03:26] <dannyu502_> Seveas, reka, how do I know if my /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686 file has a link to the kernel source?
[03:27] <TheGnome> ethan1, ahh........
[03:27] <Concord_Dawn> TheGnome, comparable time to Ubuntu full install.
[03:27] <thundrcleeze> Concord_Dawn, I assume there's a command that you use to make one from a floppy, and you're not talking about the livecd.
[03:27] <Concord_Dawn> indeed.
[03:27] <Concord_Dawn> !bootdisk
[03:27] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:27] <Concord_Dawn> bah.
[03:27] <Concord_Dawn> !boot
[03:27] <ubotu> I don't know, Concord_Dawn
[03:27] <pgw> Is there any support for sata on ati xpress 200? I'm trying to install ubuntu to a sata-only pc, but I'm not getting very far...
[03:27] <jeffrae> hi
[03:27] <jeffrae> So
[03:27] <ethan1> TheGnome  The last time I installed it, it was so slow
[03:28] <TheGnome> pgw, i have a sata drive
[03:28] <jeffrae> Does anyone know the repositories for debian testing?
[03:28] <ethan1> The mouse would lag horribly
[03:28] <dannyu502_> Seveas, reka, how do I know if my /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686 file has a link to the kernel source?
[03:28] <TheGnome> ethan1, ubuntu works best on intel based systems
[03:28] <ethan1> and I wasn't able to get access to things like my hard drive and links to my /home and things like that were broken
[03:28] <ethan1> TheGnome  But it shouldn't be this bad..
[03:28] <pgw> TheGnome: what chipset do you have?
[03:28] <reka> dannyu502_: making links isn't 1 of my strong points, sorry.
[03:29] <ethan1> ppc
[03:29] <TheGnome> pgw, intel
[03:29] <dannyu502_> anyone, how do I know if my /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686 file has a link to the kernel source?
[03:29] <dannyu502_> reka, ok thanks
[03:29] <Unununium> I installed Ubuntu replacing plain Debian when I had a gigantic mess of unsatisfiable dependencies
[03:29] <jeffrae> ppc?  Mac or (i/p)Series
[03:29] <ethan1> people with 300 mhz powerbooks with 128 megs of ram say they installed it easily in about 30-40 minutes
[03:29] <ethan1> Not 4-6 hours...
[03:29] <Concord_Dawn> ethan1, I installed in an hour on a Dell D600.
[03:30] <reka> Unununium: how'd you install?  overwriting?  or by *cough* changing repos?
[03:30] <D-N-A> i installed it about 30 min on my pc
[03:30] <reka> *overwriting by install from CD
[03:30] <pgw> TheGnome: I'm on Ati Xpress / AMD64. I'm not sure there even is a module for that...
[03:30] <ethan1> yea its taking me 4-6 hours
[03:30] <Unununium> reka: backed up /home, reformatted, and installed
[03:30] <TheGnome> pgw, yeah its cuz its amd
[03:30] <deviant> has anyone ever used looking glass on ubuntu?
[03:31] <Unununium> On another computer I installed it to a blank hard disk so I could check it out
[03:31] <ethan1> when i installed it yesterday, it took that long and then once everything was done the next day, It ran soo slow
[03:31] <TheGnome> pgw, alot of people with amd64 are having problems
[03:31] <ethan1> at first no application would open
[03:31] <ethan1> and the computer would not shut down
[03:31] <ethan1> unless i force shut down
[03:31] <reka> Unununium: and you're getting the dependency issues when using your apt interface?
[03:31] <ethan1> then firefox worked although taking about 30 seconds to open
[03:31] <TheGnome> ethan1, time to try a different distro
[03:31] <titaniululz> can anyone recommend a good ftp server for ubuntu that is reasonably easy to set up? i am new to linux and i tried wu-ftpd earlier and i was lost (tried reading the manpages -- i felt my brain leaking out my ears)
[03:32] <flodine> a guys im looking for a program that counts from 5 down to 1 before a desktop snapshot?
[03:32] <IcemanV9> ethan1: gosh, something ain't right .. i would research the forums on pcc or ibook
[03:32] <ethan1> the mouse would be horibly unreactive
[03:32] <Unununium> reka: I got them from dselect
[03:32] <Unununium> And thought, screw this, I have ubuntu and it is working
[03:32] <ethan1> IcemanV9  Yea thats what i have been doing and I've also posted topics and nobody will respond to them after a day or so..
[03:32] <Unununium> I needed to upgrade old Debian to get proper support for my new printer
[03:32] <flodine> anyone
[03:32] <pgw> can anyone help with sata on AMD64?
[03:33] <ethan1> so when your installing the packages..  Is the text supposed to go really fast?
[03:33] <IcemanV9> ethan1: you're right about earlier that others have better success with their ibook ..
[03:33] <TheGnome> pgw, does it not detect the disk at install?
[03:33] <ethan1> err unpacking the packages
[03:33] <halley> flodine, gimp's "acquire" feature has a time delay
[03:33] <pgw> yes, that's what happens
[03:33] <Unununium> ethan1: your computer is too fast to use Ubuntu.  Upgrade to a nice 366MHz like I'm using.
[03:33] <IcemanV9> ethan1: too bad, i don't have ibook or mac to test it :/
[03:33] <Unununium> Nothing goes too fast for me
[03:33] <ethan1> Unununium lol..
[03:33] <reka> ethan1: quite fast for me...you should be able to read the package right before it scrolls off
[03:34] <ethan1> reka what do you mean?
[03:34] <cralost> HUla
[03:34] <Kyral> Anyone know how to install the 2.6.10-5 kernel headers in Breezy?
[03:34] <Unununium> ethan1: are you in the Linux text console?
[03:34] <reka> ethan1: fast enough to just read a package name if you focus on it
[03:34] <Unununium> If so, use ScrollLock.  It does what you'd expect it to do. :^)
[03:34] <IcemanV9> Kyral: use apt-get install
[03:34] <ethan1> Unununium huh?
[03:34] <ethan1> reka  Oh well mine just stays at each one for a minute or two
[03:35] <ethan1> for some its longer like open office or firefox
[03:35] <Kyral> IcemanV9, its installing the 2.6.12 Headers
[03:35] <Unununium> ScrollLock or Ctrl+S should do XOFF or similar to pause the text output
[03:35] <reka> Unununium: so *that's* what that button is for. :)
[03:35] <Kyral> I'm keeping my kernel from Hoary
[03:35] <Unununium> Yes, Linux found a use
[03:35] <IcemanV9> Kyral: ah. you're right. just reread your message.
[03:35] <Unununium> And its LED is useful to dodge Van Eck phreaking via morse code
[03:35] <ethan1> i do not understand why its going so slow..
[03:36] <ethan1> this is crazy... = <
[03:36] <reka> lol
[03:36] <ethan1> lol
[03:36] <jeffrae> I use scrolllock on the iSeries... :)
[03:36] <Kyral> IcemanV9, I may enable the Hoary Repos for a sec and grab the headers from there
[03:36] <ethan1> so my computers just messed up?
[03:37] <IcemanV9> Kyral: i have seen this suggestion before .. yeah, that's the idea
[03:37] <TheGnome> pgw, did you download the 64 bit version
[03:37] <reiki> Woot!  ... I did it. only took flashing the bios 3 times to get up to a revision that would see this new 160gb drive! :)  The old Asus CUSL2C keeps on rollin! :)
[03:37] <halley> Any newbie primer on how to select and install new packages?  (apt-get install emacs) claims that "emacs" isn't the right name for what I want.
[03:37] <pgw> TheGnome: yep, I'm using the AMD64 install iso
[03:37] <Unununium> You can also use an old hard disk or a floppy to boot, then have Linux mount the big drive as root
[03:37] <darkheart> halley Try apt-cache search emacs
[03:37] <Unununium> It shouldn't need the BIOS's help
[03:38] <ethan1> so seriously is there nothing i can do?
[03:38] <ethan1> is it my hard drive?
[03:38] <ethan1> when I was setting up the partitions.
[03:38] <reiki> ok... this is a new install on a machine that actually HAS speakers.... so how do I test sound? I understand sound is a common problem
[03:38] <reiki> :)
[03:38] <ethan1> it would freeze on the root partition
[03:38] <halley> darkheart, okay, so I see 'emacs21'... (apt-get install emacs21) ?
[03:38] <ethan1> for about 20 minutes at 100%
[03:38] <darkheart> halley Yep.
[03:38] <reka> halley: apt-cache show <package> to see the info
[03:38] <TheGnome> pgw, did other distros work?
[03:39] <pgw> haven't tried any others yet...
[03:39] <reka> halley: you can also use synaptic if you're GUI inclined
[03:39] <ethan1> humm...
[03:39] <ethan1> do you think it sjust ubuntu TheGnome?
[03:39] <Unununium> Synaptic sucks less than dselect
[03:39] <ethan1> would another actually work or is my computer just crazy TheGnome?
[03:39] <halley> reka, I will probably use Synaptic after I know what it's accomplishing the hard way.
[03:39] <TheGnome> ethan1, i have no idea
[03:39] <TheGnome> ethan1, i dont know anything about mac
[03:40] <ethan1> TheGnome  Its pretty much the same...
[03:40] <kampfzerstorer> I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf file, can't seem to edit it from a root consol or anything. How do I edit it?
[03:40] <IcemanV9> kampfzerstorer: gedit
[03:40] <ethan1> does anybody like gentoo?
[03:40] <halley> How about finding 'GIMLET' and 'iiimf' for Japanese input methods?
[03:40] <TheGnome> kampfzerstorer, sudo nano /etc/pathToFileIForget
[03:40] <ethan1> i'm just confused about what to do...
[03:41] <reka> kampfzerstorer: use a normal terminal, then 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:41] <TheGnome> ethan1, gentoo is supposed to be fast
[03:41] <Kyral> anyone have a direct .deb download of the headers for 2.6.10-5?
[03:41] <ethan1> with my computer taking 60000 hours to install compared to 30..  I think somethings wrong with my computer...
[03:41] <halley> darkheart, reka, thanks; emacs works now.
[03:41] <darkheart> halley =)
[03:41] <halley> darkheart, how about finding 'GIMLET' and 'iiimf' for Japanese input methods?
[03:41] <titaniululz> can anyone recommend a good ftp server for ubuntu that is reasonably easy to set up?
[03:42] <darkheart> halley You want to install Japanese?
[03:42] <flodine> halley whats the command for the program to work in a terminal
[03:42] <reka> Kyral: apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[03:42] <ethan1> so the packages have been unpacking for about 1 hour and a half now.....
[03:42] <darkheart> halley Japanese input method?
[03:42] <Unununium> xterm
[03:42] <ethan1> probably about 2% done..
[03:42] <halley> flodine:  sleep 5 && import ...
[03:42] <Kyral> reka it ain't working :P
[03:42] <jeffrae> anyone have gs-esp 8.15 running?
[03:42] <Unununium> although there are better
[03:42] <halley> darkheart, yeah, to type in Japanese, etc.
[03:43] <ethan1> m
[03:43] <reka> Kyral: weird, it's in main
[03:43] <TheGnome> ethan1, if is slow slow why do you keep installing?
[03:43] <ethan1> because i want linux!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:43] <darkheart> halley There is a really convenient way. This link will explain http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html
[03:43] <reka> Kyral: you running warty?
[03:43] <Kyral> Breezy
[03:43] <kampfzerstorer> IcemanV9, TheGome, reka: tried all this, I get (gedit:9203) : GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:43] <dannyu502_> reka, Why can I not delete anything unless I am using the root terminal?
[03:44] <ethan1> i heard something about it cutting your processor speed and cutting everything in half during install
[03:44] <reiki> ok... sounds don't seem to be working.
[03:44] <ethan1> untill you change it..
[03:44] <reka> dannyu502_: you don't have privilege to delete anything outside of /home/<username> and /tmp
[03:44] <ethan1> but i don tknow
[03:44] <reiki> !sound
[03:44] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[03:44] <ethan1> i dont knoww!!!!
[03:44] <dannyu502_> reka, Why not? can I change that?
[03:44] <TheGnome> ethan1, if it didnt work the first two times....its not this time
[03:44] <ethan1> I've been downloading all day yesterday and installing all night and then installing all day today and still installing and it doesn't work!!!
[03:45] <reka> dannyu502_: imho, it's safer to just use sudo rm if you need to.
[03:45] <ethan1> lol..
[03:45] <TheGnome> ethan1, try a lighter distro
[03:45] <dannyu502_> reka, ok.... lol its jsut getting to b a pain in the but
[03:45] <ethan1> well I guess my computers dea then.
[03:45] <ethan1> dead*
[03:45] <Unununium> Try borrowing another hard disk?
[03:45] <reka> dannyu502_: maybe you should keep all your stuff in /home/<username>/* then :P
[03:45] <ethan1> i also heard my disk CLICKING really loud while using ubuntu at times
[03:45] <Unununium> Or switch to tomsrtbt :^)
[03:46] <dannyu502_> reka, hahahah
[03:46] <Unununium> ethan1: disk trouble.  Fear.  Get another disk.
[03:46] <ethan1> i cant..
[03:46] <Unununium> Make a backup while you still can.  Do nothing else until then.
[03:46] <reka> ethan1: your HDD?  something is seriously wrong then
[03:46] <halley> darkheart, whee.  That mentions scim a lot, not gimlet, but will try it out.
[03:46] <TheGnome> ethan1, sounds like your system is shot.....clicking of the hardrive means its about to fail....
[03:46] <deviant> hmm. could someone pls tell me where the j2sdk is installed. i`m looking for the "jre" folder, but i can`t find it anywhere!
[03:46] <darkheart> halley It's really nice. I type in Japanese as well and it is perfect.
[03:46] <Unununium> Want to demonstrate for us? :^)
[03:47] <reka> dannyu502_: seriously, what are you deleting?  you rarely need to go outside those limits
[03:47] <TheGnome> deviant, /usr/lib
[03:47] <zovirl> is it normal to have both an OSS and alsa mixer listed in the device menu of volume?
[03:47] <zovirl> I only have one sound card (I thought)
[03:47] <ethan1> TheGnome  alright..  and also during partitioning, when writing and creating the root disk, every time no matter if i create it myself or let it do it it freezes at 100% for 20 minutes and i don't see it create the swap either..
[03:47] <ethan1> it also freezes on the aqua screen a lot during installation
[03:47] <Unununium> OSS and ALSA more-or-less provide the same service.  Prefer ALSA since OSS is just emulation
[03:47] <halley> darkheart, hrm, 'cannot find package uim' - stock ubuntu apt conf
[03:47] <TheGnome> ethan1, your hard disk is junk
[03:48] <darkheart> halley One sec.
[03:48] <ethan1> k
[03:48] <reka> ethan1: back up while you can
[03:48] <TheGnome> ethan1, there not expensive...really  you could get one fore about $40
[03:48] <zovirl> unununium thanks
[03:48] <ethan1> I have nothing to back up
[03:48] <deviant> TheGnome: aha. ok, 10x :)
[03:48] <ethan1> and nothing to back up to either...
[03:48] <haja> I got a problem using Eterm.... I am trying to get it transparent on my desktop but it keeps loading with a background... can anyone help?
[03:48] <ethan1> TheGnome  I know but its also realy hard getting into iBooks
[03:49] <ethan1> and it has to be one thats gunna work with my iBook...
[03:49] <reiki> can someone please respond using my name here so
[03:49] <darkheart> halley Join #flood
[03:49] <ethan1> reiki
[03:49] <TheGnome> ethan1, oh yeah its a laptop......hardrives are a little more
[03:49] <reiki> I so I can hear if I get audible alert
[03:49] <AdmiralSenn> so.. still looking for someone to tell me why ubuntu sometimes kicks me into a text-only mode
[03:49] <reiki> thanks!
[03:49] <reiki> :)
[03:49] <AdmiralSenn> cafuego said it had something to do with xorg
[03:49] <AdmiralSenn> Anyone who can tell me if anything's wrong with my Xorg log http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1310
[03:49] <MrPockets> is it healthy, that i've begun to live my life around what Wonda the fish says :-X ??
[03:49] <Unununium> That was a good movie
[03:49] <kampfzerstorer> tried all this, I get (gedit:9203) : GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:49] <ethan1> TheGnome  And I'm just a KID so i dont really have any...  constant flow of money...
[03:49] <reiki> ok so I got sound working
[03:49] <ethan1> yea...
[03:49] <reka> reiki: pc speaker or wav file?
[03:49] <halley> darkheart, where do those go?  total apt novice here.
[03:50] <darkheart> halley That's my /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <AdmiralSenn> also, I can't get the nvidia driver run package to work
[03:50] <TheGnome> ethan1, how old are you?
[03:50] <reiki> actually... sounds like it's coming from my pc speaker
[03:50] <ethan1> TheGnome why?
[03:50] <ethan1> lol..
[03:50] <halley> darkheart, so is there a "where did I get pkg X from?" query?
[03:50] <reka> kampfzerstorer: are you running a root terminal?
[03:50] <etker> anyone awake ?
[03:50] <Unununium> I once patched my kernel to provide an OSS device for my PC speaker.  I then played the worst music I could find so that I wouldn't notice the drop in quality. :^)
[03:50] <TheGnome> ethan1, well you said kid?......im just wondering i think its cool when young people get into linux
[03:50] <TheGnome> im only 21
[03:50] <kampfzerstorer> reka: Yes I am
[03:50] <haja> I got a problem using Eterm.... I am trying to get it transparent on my desktop but it keeps loading with a background... can anyone help?
[03:50] <darkheart> halley Not that I know of, but there may be.
[03:50] <reka> kampfzerstorer: that's why
[03:51] <ethan1> TheGnome  cool
[03:51] <othernoob> does mplayer play divx6?
[03:51] <reiki> reka: wav files working through sound card speakers
[03:51] <ethan1> TheGnome  I'm 14  = -D
[03:51] <ethan1> but this is annoying me
[03:51] <reiki> so I think that part's ok for now
[03:51] <reka> reiki: using xchat?
[03:51] <reiki> using ChatZilla
[03:51] <McQuaid> ok i gave up for now in hoary and just installed it in my sid box as it's up to date
[03:51] <etker> ok ... so i'm trying to connect to a ubuntu box and ssh doesnt wanna play. i suspect that sshd isnt even started or installed. if we omit the fact that one can know whether a fresh ubuntu comes with or without sshd, how does one check whether its running in *nix ?
[03:52] <reka> othernoob: check the mplayer codec status page
[03:52] <iiiears>  Admiral, - you may have a good reason to use the nvidia driver from nvidia's site - nvidia-glx on the ubuntu repository should be easier to install.
[03:52] <AdmiralSenn> iiiears: it was
[03:52] <bimberi> etker: a fresh install has no sshd
[03:52] <AdmiralSenn> but I want to see if there's any difference
[03:52] <McQuaid> anyone familar with gnomad2?
[03:53] <iiiears> AdmiralSenn - what error/s are you seeing?
[03:53] <AdmiralSenn> iiiears: kernel interface and lack thereof
[03:53] <McQuaid> i'm trying to grab these damn wma's off it but getting an error  tried to access protected track!
[03:53] <McQuaid> never mind i'm an idiot
[03:53] <bimberi> etker: install the openssh-server package
[03:53] <kampfzerstorer> reka: hmm, it opened and it was a blank file, and it won't let me save it
[03:54] <ethan1> TheGnome  I have a 3 gig hard drive that will fit in my iBook but I dont know is that enough room?
[03:54] <darkheart> halley Actually, if you do a 'apt-cache search uim --full' it might give you the name of the repository
[03:54] <iiiears> AdmiralSenn, - i am really too new to offer much help. - nvidia-glx worked for me. :s
[03:54] <etker> bimberi: ok ... but let me be more clear: if we forget for a second that both you and i know that a fresh ubuntu has no sshd. How would i check if its running or not ?
[03:54] <ethan1> i dont know if its worth it taking apart every piece of my coputer just to get to the hard drive.. because thats what you have to do..
[03:54] <rob_p> etker:  ps -A | grep sshd
[03:54] <Unununium> ethan1: I sympathize.  I had to do same the other day
[03:54] <etker> bimberi: and by the way: when i install the openssh-server package ... will it also be added to some sort of startup-file, so that its always started on boot ?
[03:54] <AdmiralSenn> heh
[03:54] <halley> darkheart, still poking around, not found with "universe"
[03:55] <Unununium> Due to a failed power supply interface board in the laptop
[03:55] <etker> rob_p: thanks!
[03:55] <AdmiralSenn> iiiears: it is working, I'm just hoping for a slight improvement
[03:55] <ethan1> jhmm...
[03:55] <AdmiralSenn> and I'm also tired of ubuntu kicking me out for no reason
[03:55] <jeffrae> how do I install a .deb file?
[03:55] <darkheart> halley Oh..You have to run an 'apt-get update' after you change that file.
[03:55] <reka> kampfzerstorer: in a *normal* terminal, then doing 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ?
[03:55] <reka> jeffrae: what is it?
[03:55] <kampfzerstorer> reka: correct
[03:56] <jeffrae> gs-esp_7.07.1-9_ia64.deb
[03:56] <jeffrae> oops
[03:56] <jeffrae> sory wrong one
[03:56] <kampfzerstorer> reka: opens and the file is blank, then when I copy what I want to be in it from another source it won't let me save the file
[03:56] <reka> kampfzerstorer: does 'less /etc/X11/xorg.conf' output anything?
[03:56] <haja> anyone got a transparent terminal on they're desktop?
[03:56] <reka> kampfzerstorer: (don't paste)
[03:56] <halley> darkheart, aha, the elixir.
[03:57] <halley> That did it.
[03:57] <iiiears> AdmiralSenn, - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is painful. - shouldn't be but is.
[03:57] <darkheart> halley Cool =) Is scim working now? Or still more work to be done?
[03:57] <reiki> ok... default install of Hoary. Anything need to be updated special other than the way it set itself up on install?  I thought this was a pretty darn nice install for linux... and I've done many flavors
[03:57] <jeffrae> gs-esp_8+8.15rc4.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
[03:57] <jeffrae> that
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> haja, yes
[03:57] <halley> darkheart, have to do the rest of that HOWTO now.
[03:57] <haja> Are you using eterm nomasteryoda
[03:57] <jeffrae> I need GS 8.15
[03:57] <bimberi> etker: sorry - got called away
[03:58] <jeffrae> does ubuntu have a utility to install .deb file?
[03:58] <Unununium> Heh
[03:58] <Lopt> what is upanpoo
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> haja,  whatever the default is for Ubuntu
[03:58] <Unununium> dpkg -i
[03:58] <haja> how did you install it?
[03:58] <reka> jeffrae: reason i'm asking is cos you should check if it's in the repo first...otherwise use 'dpkg -i <deb filename>'
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> give me a min
[03:58] <darkheart> halley Okay, well, I gotta go eat.
[03:58] <Lopt> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[03:58] <etker> bimberi: np
[03:58] <iiiears> jeffrae, - sudo dpkg -i    installs debs alien will translate from rpm to deb
[03:58] <jeffrae> ok
[03:58] <Quest-Master> .
[03:58] <kampfzerstorer> reka: No such file or directory, but I know its there, and when I open it by navigating through the Gnome GUI it opens with the correct contents, but its read only
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> haja, I configured the profiles for transparent
[03:59] <bimberi> etker: ps aux | grep sshd <-- will tell you if it is running
[03:59] <halley> Nullifying *!i=thartgha@*.tpgi.com.au for 1 hour.
[03:59] <Lopt> wtf
[03:59] <Lopt> Geeks
[03:59] <Lopt> i hope all ya comps DIe
[03:59] <reka> kampfzerstorer: paste the exact command you used in here
[03:59] <haja> nomasteryoda, Where is that?
[03:59] <Unununium> Don't paste :^)
[03:59] <TheGnome> what was his problme
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> haja, i'll be able to tell ya in about 1 min
[03:59] <haja> alrighty
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> have to boot my ubuntu hoary box
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:00] <haja> Ok... thanks
[04:00] <bimberi> etker: and yes, the install will set up scripts in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d to start sshd on boot :)
[04:00] <etker> bimberi: yup, got a response similar to that by someone else here ... thanks
[04:00] <haja> I am using this tutorial... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&page=1&pp=10&highlight=transparent+borderless+terminal
[04:00] <etker> bimberi: ok great
[04:00] <TheGnome> is there a linux app that teaches you how to type?
[04:00] <TheGnome> cuz i need it for a job
[04:00] <haja> yea, its called IRC :D
[04:00] <jeffrae> thanks
[04:00] <bimberi> etker: k - i got called away and didn't read my scrollback closely
[04:01] <TheGnome> haja, yeah ....... that would get you to type fast
[04:01] <haja> TheGnome,  yeah.. it helped me a lot
[04:01] <Unununium> Why is apt-get update "Ign"'ing all my hoary-backports repositories?
[04:01] <reka> TheGnome: sure is....i remember linux.com writing about it in their CL tutes
[04:01] <ethan1> humm...
[04:01] <TheGnome> reka, do you remember what it was called
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> Unununium, maybe network traffic...?
[04:02] <TheGnome> ethan1, what are you gonna do?
[04:02] <MustangMatt> So I've had ubuntu installed for a few weeks. Runs flawlessly. The only little problem I have is that dhcp overwrites my resolv.conf from time to time.
[04:02] <etker> haha this was a new one
[04:02] <jeffrae> does anyone know how I can find out what repository has gs-esp_8.15
[04:02] <reka> TheGnome: not off the top of my head...pretty easy to find on their site though
[04:02] <TheGnome> backports is always slow
[04:02] <DonL> I see one called KTouch
[04:02] <bimberi> Unununium: I understand Ign means that the repository doesn't have a Release file - no problem and can be ignored
[04:02] <TheGnome> gtk if possible
[04:02] <reka> jeffrae: does it have a more common name?
[04:02] <Unununium> I see the Release file in my Web browser
[04:02] <goldenfox> is ubuntu comparable to windows xp?
[04:02] <MustangMatt> My router doesn't properly resolve dns so I always manually set resolv.conf. Is there a way to keep it from being overwritten yet continue to receive ip, subnet and gateway from the dhcp server?
[04:02] <etker> i did an apt-get install of openssh-server, and got a reponse from linux that i shojuld install the ubuntu hoary CDrom .... never seen that one before.
[04:02] <jeffrae> I don't know
[04:02] <Unununium> It doesn't appear to be even trying
[04:02] <jeffrae> gs-esp (GhostScript ESP) 8.5
[04:02] <jeffrae> 8.15
[04:03] <kampfzerstorer> reka: 'less /etc/x11/xorg.conf'
[04:03] <kampfzerstorer> bash: less /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[04:03] <Unununium> goldenfox: anything can be compared to anything, although it rarely makes sense to do so
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, ok... so what was the URL?
[04:03] <reka> kampfzerstorer: big X in X11 :)
[04:03] <Unununium> goldenfox: What do you want to know?
[04:03] <etker> have i somehow configured my apt-system badly, so that it thinkks it should get stuff from CD rather than internet?  i left the CD ad a friends place
[04:03] <DonL> goldenfox, in what way do you mean?
[04:03] <JaneLame> will they ever invent babylon 4 linux? how hard should that be, dammit?
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> kampfzerstorer, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:03] <haja> nomasteryoda, etker i did an apt-get install of openssh-server, and got a reponse from linux that i shojuld install the ubuntu hoary CDrom .... never seen that one before.
[04:03] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  If your router settings are configured properly, it should give your Ubuntu box the correct DNS IP addresses.
[04:03] <bimberi> etker: if the current version of a package is still on the install CD it will install from that (saves time/bandwidth)
[04:03] <JaneLame> i hate the substitutes. i want babylon
[04:03] <haja> wtf is that
[04:03] <haja> lol
[04:03] <haja> hold on
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:03] <haja> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&page=1&pp=10&highlight=transparent+borderless+terminal
[04:03] <haja> sorry
[04:03] <reka> jeffrae: pacakge is called gs-esp :)
[04:03] <etker> bimberi: ah shite ... ok ... hmmm  could i override this?
[04:04] <jeffrae> ok :)
[04:04] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, have seen that
[04:04] <ethan1> yea so my computers screwed.. alright...
[04:04] <goldenfox> is ubuntu comparable to windows xp?
[04:04] <JaneLame> what else can i use for a dictionary except wordtrans?
[04:04] <ethan1> lol
[04:04] <reka> jeffrae: know how to install using syanptic/apt-get?
[04:04] <jeffrae> Ubuntu Repositories are only listing verson 7.x
[04:04] <haja> Ok,.. I have it allinstalled correctly but I can't get it transparent
[04:04] <jeffrae> I know how to use syanptic
[04:04] <kampfzerstorer> reka: same result
[04:04] <jeffrae> but I only see 7.x listed
[04:04] <MustangMatt> rob_p: It's configured correctly but it doesn't work right for any machines linux or otherwise. It basically tells those machines it's IP as the DNS server but I want to use the IPs that I gave it. If that makes sense.
[04:04] <haja> I assume its something in the session thing that I added
[04:04] <jeffrae> I need 8.15
[04:04] <DonL> goldenfox, did you not read the responses?
[04:04] <etker> maybe i could try the GUI for installing stuff ... and see there
[04:04] <jeffrae> I am trying to find that
[04:04] <bimberi> etker: edit your sources.list and comment out the "deb cdrom" line (usually at the top)
[04:04] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, using gnome terminal here
[04:05] <sn0n> weird
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> but I can try that eterm too
[04:05] <haja> How did you do it?
[04:05] <etker> bimberi: ah ofcourse ... sounds logical. will try
[04:05] <goldenfox> DonL: i havent...
[04:05] <TheGnome> jeffrae, what app is it?
[04:05] <sn0n> anyone else having firefox issues with it opening
[04:05] <sn0n> http://www.rice.edu/ in a new tab
[04:05] <jeffrae> gs-esp 8.15
[04:05] <haja> I'd like to uninstall this and just use the gnome term
[04:05] <bimberi> etker: then apt-get update
[04:05] <sn0n> quite often..
[04:05] <reka> kampfzerstorer: not found?
[04:05] <jan-it> snOn, i am soooo frustrated with firefox and the dang flash crap!
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, well do it
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> very easy
[04:05] <sn0n> i've NEVER seen this site.. but like 5 times a day.. a new tab opens mysteriously.. and its on http://www.rice.edu/
[04:05] <DonL> goldenfox, better or worse or equal are in the eye of the beholder.
[04:05] <haja> Ok...
[04:05] <TheGnome> jeffrae, are you on i386?
[04:06] <sn0n> jan-it, it works for me..
[04:06] <TheGnome> jan-it, whats the problem?
[04:06] <jeffrae> i am on a x86 install
[04:06] <goldenfox> DonL: Ok, thanks. :)
[04:06] <jeffrae> so I belive so
[04:06] <DonL> goldenfox, for me, this is all I use and I'm very happy
[04:06] <TheGnome> jeffrae, here is the deb file http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgs-esp%2Fgs-esp_8%2B8.15rc4.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb&md5sum=c2a8721b568542e94dfa836d946a3b8f&arch=i386&type=main
[04:06] <deviant> "bash: ./lg3d-dev: /bin/tcsh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" <--- what doees that means ?
[04:06] <haja> How do I do it nomasteryoda
[04:06] <goldenfox> by the way guys whats an i386?
[04:06] <turnix> sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <jeffrae> ok
[04:06] <jeffrae> I found that
[04:06] <dfeed_> trying to adjust some sound stuff... how do I restart the sound server?
[04:07] <jan-it> I have tried to install flash in multiple ways and it seems to work on "some" sight but many othes it just locks up firefox and I loose all my tabs!
[04:07] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, you have synaptic?
[04:07] <kampfzerstorer> reka: I think I finally got it to work, the problem was that I'm stupid =)
[04:07] <titaniululz> i'm having a big problem with nx -- when i suspend a session i CANNOT resume it. i can't terminate it either later -- sessions just keep piling up. resume is greyed out, and terminate does nothing. what the hell
[04:07] <jeffrae> When I install it I get all kinds of dependency errors.. That is why I wanted to see if synaptic would get them automatically
[04:07] <haja> yes
[04:07] <TheGnome> goldenfox, i386   is an intel 386 processor
[04:07] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  Yeah, that makes sense.  Short of manually re-editing your /etc/resolv.conf (after obtaining your IP info from your router) or modifying a script, I'm unaware of a solution :-(
[04:07] <reka> kampfzerstorer: what was wrong?
[04:07] <nomasteryoda|w> click search, type eterm, uncheck
[04:07] <skalpel> does anyone here ever have trouble watching mavies on yahoo!
[04:07] <skalpel> ?
[04:07] <nomasteryoda|w> hit apply
[04:08] <TheGnome> jan-it, what is in your....../usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins directory?
[04:08] <ksmurf> How old TheGnome?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda|w> movies?
[04:08] <TheGnome> ksmurf, huh....
[04:08] <ksmurf> the intel
[04:08] <kampfzerstorer> reka: I should've been using an upper case X the entire time, >o<
[04:08] <TheGnome> ksmurf, what?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, network issues or unplayable in firefox?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda|w> kampfzerstorer, yup
[04:08] <reka> kampfzerstorer: do you have a scroll button on your mouse?
[04:09] <etker> bimberi: worked like a charm, got sshd installed and running and can connect!
[04:09] <kampfzerstorer> reka: nope
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> reka, LOL..
[04:09] <skalpel> nomasteryoda|w: unplayable in firefox, i think, it says i do not have the appropriate player, though i have an extension for movie files, it does not seem to work on yahoo, something to do with their website
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> mouse moves though... i'd bet
[04:09] <etker> man, i love ssh + bash + apt-get ... makes even guys like me able to do magic easily
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, did you install the w32codecs?
[04:09] <TheGnome> skalpel, what site?
[04:09] <etker> bimberi: thanks for help
[04:09] <skalpel> i believe i have, let me check
[04:10] <reka> nomasteryoda: ?
[04:10] <Unununium> etker: I've been doing that on my home computer from work all day :^)
[04:10] <haja> ok nomasteryoda I removed eterm and develspie ... how do use the gnome terminal?
[04:10] <etker> Unununium: how do you mean ?
[04:10] <PHZN`Away> Does anyone here use kubuntu and Konversation?\
[04:10] <skalpel> TheGnome: this is what i am trying to view: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=trailer&id=1808570527
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> reka, scroll button comment
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> helps very much and mice are cheap
[04:10] <jan-it> TheGnome:only one file is in the is directory "libflash-mozplugin.so"
[04:10] <DonL> PHZN`Away, I tried it
[04:10] <PHZN`Away> You like it?
[04:10] <reka> kampfzerstorer: i was gonna say, you can paste stuff using that button
[04:10] <skalpel> nomasteryoda|w: yes, i have them installed.
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> i have about 50 hanging from my home office ceiling
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> mice that is
[04:11] <reka> kampfzerstorer: instead of mistyping what we tell you to type :)
[04:11] <DonL> I kind of like X-Chat, but maybe It's just what I'm used to.
[04:11] <Unununium> etker: ssh to my house, ssh from computer to computer, reconnect to running GNU screen, check on my apt-get updates, etc.
[04:11] <PHZN`Away> I see.
[04:11] <kampfzerstorer> reka: yeah, gotta get a new mouse and keyboard, gonna do that very soon. Yeah sorry guys
[04:11] <goldenfox> TheGnome: is a pentium4 an i386?
[04:11] <Unununium> s/update/install/
[04:11] <halley>  - doumo arigatou, darkheart
[04:11] <ethan1> TheGnome  Fine..  I guess i'll try a different distro
[04:11] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, what about the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[04:11] <Unununium> hally: very nice
[04:11] <nomasteryoda|w> or gstreamer
[04:11] <deviant> "bash: ./lg3d-dev: /bin/tcsh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" <--- what doees that means ?
[04:11] <ethan1> wich should i try?
[04:11] <reka> DonL: i like it too..easy to use....got my colours set up so exit and join messages are same as the b/g.....less clutter
[04:11] <TheGnome> goldenfox, it is an i686   but i386 stuff runs on it too
[04:12] <etker> Unununium: yeah, i forgot to mention Screen in the list there .... thats another cornerstone... sooo nice
[04:12] <ethan1> hmm
[04:12] <TheGnome> skalpel, uhhh you need realplayer for that site
[04:12] <DonL> reka, yeah. just seems to work pleasantly, if you know what I mean
[04:12] <etker> i'm gonna set up a headless ripper box based on ubuntu i think
[04:12] <etker> well, not much to set up really
[04:12] <reka> DonL: bit of a hog though
[04:12] <bimberi> etker: yw :)
[04:12] <etker> but the coolest thing is the machine i'm using ... iMac!
[04:12] <TheGnome> goldenfox, i have a p4 and installed the optimized 686 kernel : )
[04:12] <kampfzerstorer> nomasteryoda|w: thanks for your help too
[04:12] <Unununium> Still trying to figure out why apt-get update Ign's my new sources
[04:12] <DonL> reka, resources are not a problem for me
[04:13] <skalpel> TheGnome: i have realplayer installed, but it still will not play
[04:13] <jan-it> I don't get why all the usual players can't be in one package for firefox not to mention the firefox version issue for updates,, geez
[04:13] <sn0n> anyone need some html work done? im bored.. accept paypal  ;)
[04:13] <ethan1> TheGnome  What distro should i try now then? lol
[04:13] <jan-it> btw, i'm on amd64-k8 if it matters.
[04:14] <reka> TheGnome: what performance gain did you get?  5 milliseconds? :)
[04:14] <nomasteryoda|w> kampfzerstorer, np
[04:14] <TheGnome> jan-it, there is no working flash for amd i dont think
[04:14] <TheGnome> reka, not only that but it noticed i had 2 gigs of ram instead of the 700 the i386 kernel recognized
[04:14] <nomasteryoda|w> TheGnome, skalpel you can choose Quicktime format too
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, check your pm
[04:15] <TheGnome> reka, so neeeeeeeeaaaaah
[04:15] <skalpel> nomasteryoda|w: alright.
[04:15] <ethan1> ijoesafewhfoei
[04:15] <reka> TheGnome: lol....guess that's a plus. :)
[04:16] <jan-it> hey, is better to just run the i386 kernel instead of the amd64?
[04:16] <TheGnome> reka, if it wernt for that i would have never done it
[04:16] <reiki_> what plays mp3 in Ubuntu and why ain't mine workin? :)
[04:16] <kampfzerstorer> Gonna reboot and hope I installed the new nvidia drivers correctly
[04:16] <Unununium> reiki: get gstreamer-mad
[04:16] <sn0n> reiki, look up gstreamer-mad
[04:16] <Unununium> Or libmad.  Or something
[04:16] <TheGnome> reiki_, what app are you trying?
[04:16] <sn0n> lol.. nevermind Unununium told you  :-X
[04:16] <jhs2> I am having issues with acpi on a Thinkpad X31
[04:16] <Unununium> Probably rhythmbox
[04:16] <reka> gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:17] <jhs2> it suspends but fails to resume correctly
[04:17] <reiki_> TheGnome: when I clicked on an mp3 it opened Totem
[04:17] <jhs2> anyone have expertise in this area?
[04:17] <sn0n> reiki, gstreamer-mad
[04:17] <reiki_> TheGnome: but Totem couldn't play the mp3... needed a.... something or other
[04:17] <jhs2> I've played with different video drivers... but it seems to be a hdd problem somehow
[04:17] <TheGnome> so gstreamer-mad will get mp3 in rythmbox?
[04:18] <sn0n> TheGnome, i believe so
[04:18] <sn0n> afaik gstreamer-mad has mp3's workingin anything ina default ubuntu
[04:18] <PHZN`Away> Hey, in kubuntu, how do I set a custom icon?
[04:18] <reka> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[04:18] <reka> and:
[04:18] <reka> !restricted
[04:18] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:18] <sn0n> PHZN`Away, try in #kubuntu
[04:18] <jan-it> not for me it didn't in fact only totem with the plugins for mp3 works gstream LOCKS up
[04:18] <PHZN`Away> My bad
[04:19] <TheGnome> where is gstreamer-mad?
[04:19] <jan-it> I found the plugins for Totem in the ubuntu extras
[04:19] <sn0n> TheGnome, you have universe in the repos'?
[04:19] <TheGnome> sn0n, sure do
[04:19] <TheGnome> sn0n, not there
[04:20] <sn0n> do a search for just gstreamer then
[04:20] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  You still at your PC?  I think I might have a solution for your DNS issue.
[04:20] <reka> like i said, gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:20] <alie> hi i have a ppc g3 machine on which i have installed ubuntu
[04:21] <JBLoudG20> does anyone have the leadteck winfast 2000 tv card successfully working in hoary?
[04:21] <reka> jan-it: gstreamer/totem issues can be resolved by installing totem-xine
[04:21] <jan-it> mine shows gstreamer0.8.mad in synaptics
[04:22] <jan-it> reka:i tried that too, but where does it install too, don't see it in any menus??
[04:22] <jmcnaught> does anybody have experience getting ubuntu installed w/ ndiswrapper for the wireless card on a computer that doesn't even have ethernet?  any suggestions?
[04:22] <Unununium> apt-get update fails with all my -backports and -extras sources: "Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release.gpg"  Why?
[04:22] <alie> i am getting an error on starting X server "there was a problem activating bonobo activation server The error code is 3 the panel will now exit
[04:22] <reka> jan-it: it replaces the default totem with the gstreamer backend
[04:22] <JBLoudG20> ive tried installing tv time, but the program wont open
[04:22] <jan-it> okay, then that is what I am using thanks.
[04:23] <alie> second error there was an error starting GNome setting daemon
[04:23] <TheGnome> there it is
[04:23] <Unununium> JBLoudG20: tvtime is nice
[04:23] <reka> Unununium: what are the urls for bp and extras in sources.list?
[04:23] <JBLoudG20> not when its not working
[04:23] <Unununium> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:23] <Unununium> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:24] <TheGnome> thanks guys rythmbox now works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:24] <desrt> s/!+/!/
[04:24] <jan-it> where in gui do you edit GRUB menu, not from command like in mandriva?
[04:24] <Unununium> desrt: heh
[04:24] <alie> third error nautilius cannot be used now because of unexpected error from bonobo when
[04:24] <desrt> Unununium; (:
[04:24] <Unununium> jan-it: I don't know, but it's easy to just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst by hand
[04:24] <ukjohnd> !apt-move
[04:24] <ubotu> ukjohnd: Not a clue
[04:24] <ukjohnd> !apt-move
[04:24] <black13> what does UDF-fs: No partition found (1) mean
[04:24] <alie> when attempting to locate the factory
[04:24] <ukjohnd> !apt
[04:24] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[04:24] <Unununium> desrt: wn!ununun
[04:25] <halley> jan-it, gedit?  ;)
[04:25] <TheGnome> wait i lied
[04:25] <TheGnome> i dont work
[04:25] <ukjohnd> !move
[04:25] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ukjohnd
[04:25] <reka> Unununium: they seem ok....and you've done an apt-get update?
[04:25] <titaniululz> i'm getting an error whenever i log in with nx about "error activating xkb configuration" -- how can i fix this?
[04:25] <PHZN`Away> !mysql
[04:25] <ubotu> mysql is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:25] <Unununium> reka: I'm trying to do so, byt apt-get update Ign's every -extra and -backport
[04:25] <justdave> is there any way to get trackpad support on a 15" Powerbook in Ubuntu or does that not work at all yet?
[04:25] <Unununium> err, -backports
[04:25] <reka> oh, stupid question :)
[04:25] <jan-it> Unununium, i found it in text but had no clue what to do with it, i need to change my defualt boot up
[04:26] <jhs2> is there a better place to go for ubuntu linux support?
[04:26] <Unununium> What do you want to change to?
[04:26] <ukjohnd> apols new to IRC was trying to use Uboto bot
[04:26] <Unununium> jhs2: try the wiki
[04:26] <alie>  hi i have a ppc g3 machine on which i have installed ubuntu i am getting an error on starting X server "there was a problem activating bonobo activation server The error code is 3 the panel will now exit second error there was an error starting GNome setting daemon third error nautilius cannot be used now because of unexpected error from bonobo when when attempting to locate the factory
[04:26] <TheGnome> Could not open resource for writing Could not pause playback ....are the errors i get when trying to play mp3 in rythmbox
[04:26] <jhs2> Unununium : to leave a request?
[04:26] <JBLoudG20> any help wioht my tv turner
[04:26] <jhs2> I've been over the wiki pretty extensivley
[04:26] <Unununium> jhs2: no, to see if your question has already been answered
[04:26] <jan-it> Uunun:need to have winblows boot by defualt and wait state to 15
[04:26] <jhs2> oh, yes I'm pretty sure it has not
[04:26] <Unununium> jan-it change the "default" line
[04:27] <jhs2> I Scanned the wiki and the laptop support forums
[04:27] <jmcnaught> alie: did you buy the laptop today for $50?
[04:27] <alie> hahahah
[04:27] <alie> this is in my college
[04:27] <alie> capsule pc ;)
[04:27] <alie> jmcnaught ppc g3 i guess
[04:27] <alie> never used but just trying to install ubuntu to make it usable
[04:28] <alie> there are about 20 in my colleg
[04:28] <alie> college
[04:28] <Unununium> JBLoudG20: do you see video in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[04:28] <jmcnaught> alie: just curious.. slashdot reported a riot in virginia because the the gov't was selling 1000 g3's for $50
[04:28] <Unununium> System > Preferences > MSS
[04:28] <Unununium> jmcnaught: I just saw it on the television news
[04:28] <alie> no i m in malaysia
[04:28] <Deep6> has anyone got dual display working?
[04:28] <Unununium> Deep6: I have triple-head working
[04:28] <Deep6> I need help with a card that has a vga and a dvi out
[04:28] <Unununium> I manually edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <TheGnome> yup switched from esd to alsa and now it works
[04:28] <Deep6> Unununium, can I get some hepl?
[04:29] <Unununium> Want my file?
[04:29] <TheGnome> thanks
[04:29] <Deep6> er help rather?
[04:29] <Deep6> Unununium, sure that'd be a good start
[04:29] <alie> can can one help me configure it ?
[04:29] <jmcnaught> alie: i've only installed to a ppc once and everything worked fine.  might it have a hardware issue?  does it do the same thing every time you boot up?
[04:29] <Deep6> what kind of card do you have
[04:29] <IcemanV9> jmcnaught: is that right?! w0w. $50 bucks for g3 box. dang.
[04:29] <Deep6> or do you have 3 cards?
[04:29] <alie> i have installed ubuntu i am getting an error on starting X server "there was a problem activating bonobo activation server The error code is 3 the panel will now exit second error there was an error starting GNome setting daemon third error nautilius cannot be used now because of unexpected error from bonobo when when attempting to locate the factory
[04:29] <jmcnaught> Iceman: an old man got trampled, so did a mother with her stroller
[04:30] <JBLoudG20> yes I see video in the multimedia systems selector
[04:30] <Deep6> Unununium, firewall?
[04:30] <Kyral> Can I have GCC 3.4 and GCC 4 along side each other?
[04:30] <Unununium> Deep6: probably; I'll upload to my Web site
[04:30] <jmcnaught> i'm installing hoary under qemu (with the kernel accelerator) right now, just for kicks
[04:30] <Deep6> k
[04:31] <Brunellus> firefox isn't downloading torrents for me for some reason
[04:31] <Unununium> http://ioioio.net/xorg.conf
[04:31] <reka> alie: search for bonobo topics in the forum while you wait
[04:31] <IcemanV9> jmcnaught: if i knew about it, i would be there already getting 5 of them
[04:31] <Deep6> Unununium, do you have 3 separate cards or are you using a single card?
[04:31] <Unununium> Two cards, one of which is dual-head
[04:31] <Unununium> All old
[04:31] <alie> ok
[04:31] <Deep6> ahh is the dual head card an nvidia based one?
[04:31] <Brunellus> in fact, firefox won't download things at all from a left-click
[04:31] <Unununium> I have an ATI and an nVidia in there
[04:31] <jmcnaught> IcemanV9: there was a guy beating people down with a lawn chair.. he got 3.  you'd have probably needed a bat or something.
[04:32] <Unununium> They don't fight much
[04:32] <Brunellus> anybody ahve any ideas?
[04:32] <Deep6> I can't reach your website either :(
[04:32] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: it doesn't do anything?  or does it give an error
[04:32] <Deep6> ping www.ioioio.net
[04:32] <Deep6> PING www.ioioio.net (68.208.133.49) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:32] <Unununium> Why are you pinging my Web server?
[04:32] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  it doesn't do *anything*
[04:32] <JBLoudG20> Unununium, I see video the the selector
[04:32] <Brunellus> no errors, nothing.
[04:32] <Brunellus> I can right-click and download that way
[04:33] <Deep6> can't connect to it Unununium
[04:33] <Brunellus> but it's bizarre that I can't left-click download...
[04:33] <Unununium> Deep6: use TCP not ICMP to connect
[04:33] <jeffrae> mplayerplug-in buffers then sits and does nothing
[04:33] <Deep6> uh.... Unununium I know :)
[04:33] <jeffrae> has anyone seen this?
[04:33] <Deep6> but I think there's a path issue
[04:33] <Deep6> I can't see your website period
[04:33] <Unununium> Deep6: I just scp'ed to it; I don't see why there would be a problem
[04:33] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: maybe it's configured to download to a different directory?  is this with all files or just torrents?
[04:33] <Unununium> No, it's not inside my house
[04:34] <Brunellus> all files.
[04:34] <james> can eclipse be installed via apt-get?
[04:34] <Unununium> Don't see why not
[04:34] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: do files normally go to your desktop?  maybe they're in your home?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> jeffrae, mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[04:34] <james> how can I find out it's package name?
[04:34] <jeffrae> yes
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> what stream?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> url?
[04:35] <jeffrae> I found some info on ubuntu forumnsand so on
[04:35] <jeffrae> every stream I have tried
[04:35] <Brunellus> Mcnaught:  it doesn't even open a "file download" window
[04:35] <jeffrae> I end up downloading it and opining mplayer standalone
[04:35] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: what extensions do you have installed?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> jeffrae, you should not have to ... just got my realplayer going for a stream while working with skalpel
[04:36] <jeffrae> cool
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> though I have been able to play trailers with np
[04:36] <Brunellus> nothing but an English-GB language pack
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> via apple.com
[04:36] <bimberi> james: I'm pretty sure it isn't available in the repositories however there is this ...
[04:36] <bimberi> !eclipse
[04:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, eclipse is to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[04:36] <PHZN`Away> What is the command to remove a directory?
[04:36] <PHZN`Away> that has things in it.
[04:36] <halley> rmdir
[04:36] <jeffrae> really
[04:36] <halley> rm -r
[04:37] <james> thank you bimberi
[04:37] <jmcnaught> Brunellus; sorry, i'm just as puzzled as you are
[04:37] <JBLoudG20> im so suick of trying to get all this linux crap working
[04:38] <Brunellus> I've isolated it to just firefox, though
[04:38] <black13> what does UDF-fs: No partition found (1) mean
[04:38] <Brunellus> epiphany downloads everything just fine
[04:38] <Unununium> black13: probably something to do with CD-RW's
[04:38] <bimberi> james: yw :)
[04:38] <Brunellus> (although I then have to open the torrents with gnome-bittorrent locally)
[04:38] <titanium> does anyone know how to get freenx to work in ubuntu so that i can actually suspend and resume sessions? right now if i suspend a session it's gone forever and can't be resumed
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !udf
[04:38] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: I don't know
[04:38] <Brunellus> bug report time, maybe?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !cdburning
[04:38] <ubotu> I don't know, nomasteryoda|w
[04:38] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: have you tried it as a different user?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !cd-rw
[04:38] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> hehe
[04:39] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  I don't see why.  This is the only user account on this machine
[04:39] <Brunellus> other than sudo
[04:39] <Unununium> sudo isn't a user; you're thinking of root
[04:39] <Brunellus> that's right
[04:39] <Brunellus> I don't have root enabled
[04:39] <Unununium> There are dozens of behind-the-scenes accounts
[04:39] <Brunellus> mmm.
[04:39] <Unununium> You mean, it's not available for login.  But trust me; root is a very busy user
[04:39] <jmcnaught> ,Brun: if it works as a different user, i would suggest backing up your bookmarks.html and erasing firefox's hidden folder
[04:39] <Unununium> Get a process list and see for yourself
[04:39] <black13> Unununium what kind of file system is that?
[04:40] <Unununium> black13: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A//www.webopedia.com/TERM/U/UDF.html&ei=iaMCQ8aTFsHy4AHUhoka
[04:40] <Unununium> OOps
[04:40] <Unununium> Well, that link will work
[04:40] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  well I'll be
[04:40] <Brunellus> sudo mozilla and it works just fine
[04:41] <PHZN`Away> Alright, so I'm trying to install MySQL,  but it says I alreday have a server running, what do I do?
[04:41] <black13> i though the cds where iso9660
[04:41] <Brunellus> so what do I do now, rm ~/.mozilla
[04:41] <Brunellus> ?
[04:41] <halley> What's a useful apt search for media codecs?
[04:41] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: it's a problem with your firefox settings for your user account
[04:41] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  is there any way to change those short of deleting /.mozilla
[04:42] <jdub> yo herzi
[04:42] <Unununium> Any clues on my -backports/-extras problem?
[04:42] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: make sure to copy bookmarks.html to a different folder and then 'rm -rf .mozilla'
[04:42] <bur[n] er> anyone know why a fresh install of hoary would load gdm fine, but then freeze on starting gnome?
[04:42] <reka> halley: sound or video?
[04:42] <Unununium> (sorry if it hasn't already been answered)
[04:42] <bur[n] er> the icons in teh splash screen don't even show
[04:42] <Unununium> s/hasn't/has/
[04:42] <halley> reka, both?
[04:42] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: probably, but you'd have to find the setting that got changed, look around in preferences
[04:42] <dylan_> Seveas, how do i CD to a directory that has spaces in it, for example cd /home/user/The Folder With Spaces/   ?
[04:42] <reka> halley: what player do you want to use? :)
[04:43] <herzi> hey jdub
[04:43] <bur[n] er> dylan_: use \ before the space
[04:43] <halley> dylan_, cd /home/user/the\ fol<tab>
[04:43] <bimberi> dylan_: The\ Folder\ With\ Spaces
[04:43] <jmcnaught> Brunellus; deleting the .mozilla folder will restore all the firefox defaults for your user account
[04:43] <reka> dylan_: use tab completion, otherwise you need to use the escape character
[04:43] <halley> reka, totem/xine is fine for now.
[04:43] <Unununium> Or use ' or " to quote the string
[04:43] <dylan_> reka and everyone:  thanks
[04:43] <bimberi> ooh - i like halley's answer :)
[04:43] <Brunellus> ok.  and firefox will regenerate a ~/.mozilla when I run firefox again?
[04:43] <speel> hey some help.. i see a book called dive into python is installed ..where would i find it
[04:44] <bur[n] er> Brunellus: yes
[04:44] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: yes
[04:44] <reka> halley: install totem-xine, gstreamer0.8-mad (for mp3 support) and w32codecs (from backports for video support)
[04:44] <herzi> speel: dpkg -L package-name
[04:44] <reka> halley: totem should play everything with that now.
[04:44] <mustard> nick Dude
[04:44] <reka> s/now/after you do that :)
[04:44] <Unununium> mustard: nothing happens.
[04:44] <speel> thanks
[04:44] <herzi> speel: probably /usr/share/doc/div-into...
[04:44] <speel> yea its in /usr/share/doc
[04:44] <Kyral> anyone get NVidia Hardware Accel to work on Breezy?
[04:45] <halley> reka, could you /msg me the deb lines for backports?
[04:45] <jmcnaught> am i not using nick completion correctly in X-Chat?  i have it turned on, and i type ,<nick> and it doesn't work?
[04:45] <Brunellus> dylan_:  not necessarily
[04:45] <Brunellus> but you don't really need 'latest versions'....
[04:45] <Brunellus> just ask the guys who are running Debian Stable!
[04:45] <reka> halley: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:45] <Unununium> I wish that would work for me...
[04:45] <dylan_> Brunellus, i mean like Vista needs A LOT of stuff.  Will Breezy and whatever is after that need tough hardware?
[04:45] <halley> jmcna<tab>
[04:45] <speel> jmcnaught:>> i usually just press tab
[04:45] <Unununium> jmcna<tab>: it doesn't work as expected
[04:45] <reka> jmcnaught: nick completion means you use tab to auto complete iirc
[04:45] <Brunellus> dylan:  no
[04:46] <halley> reka, thanks.
[04:46] <jmcnaught> oh, i get it now
[04:46] <dylan_> Brunellus, im running a 2.2ghz amd athlon xp processor with 1gb ram and 64mb video, how long will i be good for
[04:46] <jmcnaught> i haven't used IRC since i was a teenager
[04:46] <Brunellus> dylan_:  indefinitely....provided you pick your software carefully
[04:46] <reka> halley: oh, and for dvd support, there's libdvdcss2, also in bp
[04:46] <jmcnaught> dylan_, you'll always be able to do whatever you do now on it
[04:46] <dylan_> Brunellus, define indefinitely
[04:46] <Brunellus> my last computer was a celeron 800 with 256 MB RAM
[04:46] <Brunellus> as in, like 5 years old...
[04:46] <Brunellus> and that ran Hoary pretty well
[04:46] <Unununium> Using a 366MHz Deceleron right now
[04:46] <PurpleMotion> I wonder if i could actually sell my kids on the black market? is there really a market for bad ass kids?
[04:46] <Unununium> Check ebay
[04:47] <dylan_> Brunellus, did you upgrade?
[04:47] <Brunellus> the box or the OS?
[04:47] <reka> jmcnaught: as in, the "hey what's up? a/s/l" stage? :D
[04:47] <halley> jmcnaught, you fancy kids and yer eye-are-see.  We had to telnet and kermit four hops to get through the bang notation just to download emacs from edu!mit!ai!prep, and we LIKED IT.
[04:47] <Brunellus> yay telnet.
[04:47] <Unununium> TCP is for wimps
[04:47] <Brunellus> the best way to get email for me back in college was telnetting to the email server & just using PINE...
[04:48] <Brunellus> quick & efficient.
[04:48] <jmcnaught> reka: no, i was one of those leet kids using bitchx taking over #greenday and #teensex on efnet
[04:48] <PurpleMotion> reka:  BAH! It used to take me three days to get an email to paris. Ph34r f1d0n3t
[04:48] <Unununium> That's kind of what I do now, except replace telnet with ssh and pine with mutt
[04:48] <lespinoza> hola
[04:48] <thilo> Hi folks. Question#1: How can I add links/programs to the Gnome-Applications-Panel ?
[04:48] <reka> PurpleMotion: people buy toast that looks like holy figures...there's a market for everything :)
[04:48] <Brunellus> my buddy used to ssh back to his own computer and use lynx to surf for soccer scores
[04:48] <dylan_> jmcnaught, are you sure about my hardware?
[04:48] <Brunellus> (this on computers that had nothing but terminal emulators on 'em.)
[04:48] <jmcnaught> PurpleMotion, i know a guy that tried to sell his infant twins for a meth lab
[04:48] <PurpleMotion> jmcnaught:  I remember when IRC channels were numbered. no names.
[04:48] <Brunellus> dylan_:  your hardware is good.
[04:48] <Brunellus> in fact, you're a little ahead of the curve
[04:49] <Unununium> #111
[04:49] <Unununium> My nick is numbered
[04:49] <halley> reka, that line you gave was all one line, right?  or one per keyword at the end?
[04:49] <jmcnaught> dylan_, you might not be able to use newer software on it 10 years from now, but it'll always do what it does now, and run what it runs now
[04:49] <dylan_> Brunellus, cause i could not use Fedora
[04:49] <halley> Unununium, right next to Unobtanium.
[04:49] <jmcnaught> dylan_, and there's always xfce and icewm!
[04:49] <reka> halley: 1 one line....can also check this:
[04:49] <reka> !repos
[04:49] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:49] <Brunellus> why couldn't you use fedora?
[04:49] <Unununium> ubunununtu
[04:49] <dylan_> jmcnaught, but by that time in 10 years i would have already switched to a new pc
[04:49] <dylan_> Brunellus, i could not use fedora cause it would not allow 3d accel
[04:49] <halley> reka, hm, search w32codecs gives ''
[04:49] <OraE> alibaba and 40 thiefs
[04:49] <brer_rabbit> fedora is either got a serious security hole or a very bad glitch
[04:49] <dylan_> Brunellus, i have a VIA graphics processor
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> skalpel,
[04:50] <OraE> heeeeelo
[04:50] <Brunellus> ah.
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> k you still here
[04:50] <PurpleMotion> this spit is bananas, b a n a n a s (THIS SPIT IS BANANAS, B A N A N A S)
[04:50] <PurpleMotion> (don't ask)
[04:50] <thilo> has sbd experienced problems with ALSA?
[04:50] <reka> !w32codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is set of codecs needed to play common audio/video formats (wmv etc). You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).  AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:50] <Brunellus> for hardware acceleration, it's pretty much nvidia or owt.
[04:50] <Unununium> reka: your nick reminds me of rpgworld
[04:50] <titanium> anyone experienced with freenx refusing to resume sessions? >:(
[04:50] <reka> halley: my mistake....hoary-extras :)
[04:50] <IcemanV9> is it possible to use win key + other key (shortcut command)??
[04:50] <reka> halley: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:50] <jmcnaught> PurpleMotion, i remember sending my first email through some sort of a mail proxy that i didn't understand on a BBS... there aren't any of those around here anymore
[04:51] <reka> halley: good idea to comment those out after you get the multimedia packages you need
[04:51] <Brunellus> and whoever just posted hollaback girl should be dragged out into the street and shot
[04:51] <reka> Unununium: you'll have to explain that :)
[04:51] <PurpleMotion> !restricted
[04:51] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:51] <Unununium> http://www.rpgworldcomic.com./ she's a (dead) character
[04:51] <jmcnaught> dylan_, the computer you described will be able to run the latest linux for several years
[04:51] <Unununium> (sorry to give it away)
[04:51] <thilo> @iceman: good question, waiting for answers
[04:51] <dylan_> jmcnaught, thanks
[04:52] <reka> Brunellus: which is why i don't listen to commerical radio
[04:52] <TheGnome> hello again
[04:52] <reka> Unununium: oh, ok :)
[04:52] <garyc> i got a samba question
[04:52] <brer_rabbit> the extras repo Ive seen associated with what uboto has revealed will not update they all say failed so what is there another one?
[04:52] <PurpleMotion> why can't i append a blurt on ubotu? I was going to append w32codecs to also point people to the restricted formats wiki
[04:52] <brer_rabbit> ewww gadzooks
[04:52] <halley> reka:  (sudo apt-get install w32codecs libdvdcss2 gstreamer0.8-mad) working...
[04:52] <TheGnome> brer_rabbit, did you sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <reka> PurpleMotion: can't append afaik
[04:52] <brer_rabbit> thats gotta be some nasty varnish there thegnome
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> yes thegnome
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> lol
[04:53] <halley> reka, anything else I'm missing for dvd, etc?
[04:53] <rickity> i have a question about using "dd" to backup my linux install...given two drives of the same make/model/capacity..can I simply clone my system by "dd"ing the whole linux drive to the backup drive?
[04:53] <dylan_> brer_rabbit, will gnome 2.12 be aweomse?
[04:53] <Unununium> andy_: Hi, what are you doing using my name?
[04:53] <jmcnaught> haha, installing ubuntu on kqemu wasted half my battery in 30 minutes
[04:53] <reka> halley: should be set :)
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> uh well I guess
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> 2.10 is pretty good
[04:53] <PurpleMotion> !w32codecs
[04:53] <reka> halley: remember to get totem-xine
[04:53] <dylan_> brer_rabbit, agreed
[04:53] <bimberi> dylan_: http://gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[04:53] <dylan_> bimberi, tanx
[04:54] <PurpleMotion> there we go
[04:54] <garyc> I want to share a folder with windows machines on my network
[04:54] <bimberi> dylan_: yvw :)
[04:54] <andy_> Unununium, can't help my name is andy huh:p my parents named me that way...
[04:54] <garyc> I want to share a folder with windows machines on my network can anyone help
[04:54] <Unununium> yeah, and as we talked earlier, my last name is Goth because that's what my parents decided
[04:55] <skalpel> nomasteryoda: yes, i am here, why?
[04:55] <halley> reka, I think that was installed by default; a dvd popped up totem movie player, but I think it's thinking about the css now...
[04:55] <dylan_> will gnome 2.12 fix all the rhythmbox shittiness or will they finally make the wise decision and switch to xmms?
[04:55] <andy_> whatever
[04:55] <skalpel> nomasteryoda: i really like your nickname by the way
[04:55] <dfeed_> Ununium: A. Goth?
[04:55] <Unununium> rhythmbox ate all my RAM when I tried adding my music collection
[04:55] <PurpleMotion> garyc:  watch ubotu
[04:55] <PurpleMotion> !samba
[04:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[04:55] <Unununium> dfeed: yes
[04:55] <bimberi> garyc: system -> administration -> shared folders (install samba if required)
[04:55] <Brunellus> dylan_: xmms is deprecated...
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> skalpel, thanks
[04:55] <reka> dylan_: xmms?!  please!  bmp at least
[04:55] <Brunellus> use beep media player
[04:55] <garyc> i have samba
[04:56] <Unununium> cat to /dev/dsp
[04:56] <Brunellus> xmms is a nice thing to have, though
[04:56] <garyc> i shared a folder
[04:56] <dylan_> reka, bmp is weak
[04:56] <TheGnome> i like rythmbox
[04:56] <rickity> anyone ever use "dd" to clone a drive?
[04:56] <dylan_> i cannot jump to a time
[04:56] <Ronan> When I download stuff for Ubtuntu, Do I chose "debian" on the list?
[04:56] <jmcnaught> ryhthmbox has trouble adding folders to the library if they have any unsupported files (ie. album covers)
[04:56] <Brunellus> but it's officially deprecated.
[04:56] <reka> dylan_: i think they like the wmp type interface
[04:56] <Unununium> rickity: yes, a floppy
[04:56] <TheGnome> i like xmms better than beep too
[04:56] <Quest-Master> Rhyhmbox is nice, but.. foobar2000 is still the best
[04:56] <rickity> I have two drives that are presumably identical
[04:56] <PurpleMotion> rickity:  no, but it seems like it would be pretty straightforward
[04:56] <rickity> make /model /capacity
[04:56] <jmcnaught> amarok is pretty good
[04:56] <garyc> my windows machine asks for a user/password
[04:56] <dylan_> reka, why cant i jump to a certain time in bmp?
[04:56] <TheGnome> foobar2000?
[04:56] <Unununium> snackamp?
[04:56] <rickity> can i just dd /dev/src /dev/backup?
[04:56] <Ronan> When I download stuff for Ubtuntu, Do I chose "debian" on the list?
[04:56] <TheGnome> totem-xine kicks ass
[04:57] <Unununium> rickity: why not use cp?
[04:57] <garyc> tried making new users no help
[04:57] <Unununium> Wait, that won't work for "special" files (dev nodes, etc.)
[04:57] <reka> dylan_: i don't know, but i can fine, so it must be something to do with your sound setup
[04:57] <rickity> Unununium, cuz I want a verbatim clone ..down to the partition table
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> skalpel,
[04:57] <dylan_> reka, what do i do to jump to time?
[04:57] <rickity> Unununium, zero recovery effort
[04:57] <Concord_Dawn> Ronan, what do you mean?
[04:57] <TheGnome> dylan_, try a different song
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> exit
[04:57] <andy_> Ronan, what should you download? use apt-get
[04:57] <Unununium> rickity: Yes, you can do it, but are you sure the disks have the same capacity?
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> dang
[04:57] <supernix> has everyone took proper precautions to avoid the worm going round ?
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> lol
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> what worm is it now?
[04:57] <Concord_Dawn> supernix, what worm?
[04:57] <TheGnome> dylan_, some songs just wont let you
[04:57] <james> is eclipse in repos?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> skalpel, you there ?
[04:58] <Ronan> When I download stuff for Ubtuntu, Do I chose "debian" on the list?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[04:58] <dylan_> TheGnome, under XMMS i can for any song
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> a version of the redworm?
[04:58] <supernix> Don't know the name but it hit CNN today and took them down
[04:58] <garyc> I want to share a folder with windows machines on my network
[04:58] <Gatton> bwahaha
[04:58] <rickity> Unununium, yes..they do...wut I don't understand is how does dd handle things like bad blocks? ..or is that so low level its not a concern for "dd"?
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> oh you mean the winworm
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> lol
[04:58] <reka> TheGnome: really? i can jump with any song
[04:58] <andy_> Ronan, when you ask questions, do you read the answers?
[04:58] <concept10> supernix, it was a windows worm
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> I run linux
[04:58] <halley> garyc, someone pointed you to a URL from ubotu about Samba.
[04:58] <Unununium> rickity: you have bad blocks??
[04:58] <Concord_Dawn> Ronan, try looking to see if it's in Synaptic.
[04:58] <TheGnome> dylan_, just try a diff song for shits and giggles
[04:58] <andy_> btw yes ubuntu is debian based
[04:58] <Gatton> brer_rabbit, you run LInux? What distro? ;))
[04:58] <Concord_Dawn> If it's not, try looking for a Ubuntu version, if there isn't, Debian should do.
[04:58] <reka> dylan_: i'm not a sound guru, but what output plugin are you using?
[04:58] <dylan_> TheGnome, in xmms i can still jump to any time
[04:58] <bimberi> garyc: so you did "sudo  smbpasswd -a <username>"
[04:58] <rickity> Unununium, don't most disks?
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> concept10, my fedora fkd up on me today just like it did two weeks ago
[04:58] <TheGnome> reka, me too..............but i have had soem songs in the past
[04:58] <dylan_> reka, i dont know
[04:58] <Ronan> Thanks
[04:58] <dylan_> reka, alsa prolly
[04:58] <rickity> Unununium, they just get masked out
[04:59] <brer_rabbit> so its gone and I doubt if i will be returning to fedora
[04:59] <brer_rabbit> ever
[04:59] <Unununium> rickity: Well, if the hard disk hardware masks 'em, you won't know about it
[04:59] <reka> dylan_: check in prefs
[04:59] <TheGnome> dylan_, set up beep to use alsa
[04:59] <ANYA> hi
[04:59] <Unununium> So long as the OS doesn't have any trouble, dd will work for you
[04:59] <ANYA> hi
[04:59] <dylan_> TheGnome, that will work?
[04:59] <concept10> heh, brer_rabbit ?
[04:59] <rickity> Unununium, true...but i'm not sure at what level that's occurring...
[04:59] <Unununium> If you're worried, get dd-rescue
[04:59] <halley> ANYA, life is too short for 'hi' - ask your questions.
[04:59] <reka> TheGnome: interesting....i can't however, pause playback :)
[04:59] <iiiears> rickity - dd - can be configured to ignore a small number of errors. ddrescue is what you need to make a good copy of anything with a lot of errors. - CDs / protected
[04:59] <ANYA> hi
[04:59] <TheGnome> dylan_, it might
[04:59] <dylan_> TheGnome, what i really want is the best gnome friendly music and video players
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> heyya Omnifrog
[04:59] <dylan_> TheGnome, any suggestions?
[04:59] <concept10> f_newton, you reinstalled Ubuntu?
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> sorry been busy here
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:00] <rickity> so the answer is yes then..as long as the backup disk is >=capacity of the source drive, "dd" will make a usable clone of the drive?
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> dylan_, XMMS and Rythymbox.
[05:00] <garyc> bimberi how do I do that
[05:00] <Omnifrog> hay nomasteryoda!!
[05:00] <TheGnome> dylan_, i like the default ubuntu music player
[05:00] <dylan_> TheGnome, it is buggy
[05:00] <TheGnome> rythmbox
[05:00] <jmcnaught> is there a way to install the dev packages for every library i have installed?
[05:00] <halley> It's channels like this, I remember why I wrote the xchat auto-ignore-for-X-time script.  :)
[05:00] <bimberi> garyc: in a terminal window
[05:00] <reka> halley: everything working?
[05:00] <Unununium> Why do you need dev for all?
[05:00] <dylan_> TheGnome, rhythmbox will not let me jump or scroll to different times either without skipping the whole song
[05:00] <ANYA> hi
[05:00] <TheGnome> dylan_, buggy.........hmm not for me
[05:00] <bur[n] er> dylan_: beep-media-player
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> jmcnaught, write a script :)
[05:00] <TheGnome> beep sucks
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> or
[05:00] <concept10> jmcnaught, filter devel in synaptic and install all of those packages
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> try doing apt-get install *-dev
[05:00] <bur[n] er> beep sucks?
[05:00] <iiiears> rickity - yes it will make a good copy. - tho it copies -everything- even empty blocks
[05:00] <PurpleMotion> why is it my key repeat stops working once in a while?
[05:00] <dylan_> TheGnome, did you get my last message
[05:00] <halley> reka, totem still chewing on a DVD, gonna break it and see what's wrong.
[05:00] <garyc> can we get away from this traffic
[05:01] <PurpleMotion> brb
[05:01] <bur[n] er> rhythmbox .9 is really cool
[05:01] <TheGnome> dylan_, yeah it deff dont do that for me
[05:01] <Ronan> Which Ubuntuu should I download? The Hoary Hedgehog?
[05:01] <dylan_> TheGnome, why?
[05:01] <reka> halley: as in slow playback?
[05:01] <jmcnaught> Unununium, so next time i compile something i don't have to keep apt-getting stuff that ./configure chokes on
[05:01] <dylan_> Ronan, yes
[05:01] <TheGnome> Ronan, yes
[05:01] <rickity> iiiears, so is my strategy sound?  I have two drives ..same make model capacity...possibly only differing by whatever bad blocks the disks had off the assembly line..
[05:01] <Ronan> Thanks :)
[05:01] <dylan_> Ronan, no prob dude
[05:01] <Ronan> :D
[05:01] <iiiears> rickity - partimage?
[05:01] <TheGnome> dylan_, why what?
[05:01] <halley> reka, as in unresponsive once I ask it to play a disc.
[05:01] <dylan_> TheGnome, why doesnt it do that to you?
[05:01] <rickity> iiiears, is that superior to dd?
[05:01] <ANYA> hi
[05:01] <ANYA> hi
[05:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hi
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, can you scroll through the time of a song?
[05:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does Anyone here still use Dialup
[05:02] <TheGnome> dylan_, let me see............yup
[05:02] <Unununium> That's funny.  oooqs-kde is in -extras or -backports (not sure which), but I don't have the gnome version
[05:02] <iiiears> it was made for cloning - or copying an image to a compressed file.
[05:02] <jmcnaught> Concord_Dawn, heh.. i wish i could.  the last time i wrote anything was in pascal 10 years ago
[05:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Like in particularly, Linuxant Drivers
[05:02] <garyc> bimberi traffic too much for me is there a way to talk one on one
[05:02] <rickity> iiiears, it seems dd would give me my boot, swap and all other partitions in one fell swoop...no?
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, does it have anything to do with my sound?
[05:02] <TheGnome> dylan_, did you swtich your multimedia selector to alsa
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, i dont know how
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, me = noob
[05:02] <bimberi> garyc: sure - "/query bimberi" in your irc client
[05:02] <iiiears> rickity - nah you also need sfdisk to copy the bootsector
[05:03] <Unununium> Ah, it's named differently: ooqstart-gnome
[05:03] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  You still around for a quick question?
[05:03] <halley> reka, ah, totem-xine wasn't actually installed; it removes totem-gstreamer to do it, though?
[05:03] <TheGnome> System>prefs>multimedia selector> choose alsa
[05:03] <rickity> iiiears, true!  I'll do that separately
[05:03] <dylan_> TheGnome, thanks
[05:03] <TheGnome> totem-xine should be default
[05:03] <iiiears> dd will do it i suppose but i always read about sfdisk as a seperate step.
[05:03] <titanium> i'm trying to use kanotix.com as a repository but getting the following error; what can i do? i need a new version of freenx that is only available here.
[05:03] <titanium> W: GPG error: http://kanotix.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FB1A399A71409CDF
[05:03] <titanium> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:03] <dylan_> TheGnome, lemme test now
[05:03] <reka> halley: correct
[05:04] <TheGnome> titanium, READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I set up ESD on ubuntu
[05:04] <halley> reka, playing disc now, checking audio in a sec.
[05:04] <dylan_> TheGnome, must i log out
[05:04] <rickity> iiiears, it seems like it should work...I just wanted to make sure I understood how the handling of bad blocks off the assembly line doesn't interfere with that strategy of cloning
[05:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And how do i configure the volume manager
[05:04] <dylan_> TheGnome, its still acting ip
[05:04] <Unununium> Biscuitian_Warhe: I thought it was installed by default
[05:04] <dylan_> TheGnome, up*
[05:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> But how do i configure it
[05:04] <titanium> TheGnome: read what? i did apt-get update and it gives me the same error and tells me to apt-get update again
[05:04] <TheGnome> dylan_, that sucks mine works flawless
[05:05] <Unununium> worm: http://www.achewood.com./index.php?date=05172004
[05:05] <iiiears> another app worth a look is "mondo" rescue
[05:05] <TheGnome> titanium, the keyring
[05:05] <dylan_> TheGnome, do i hafta log out
[05:05] <TheGnome> dylan_, maybe
[05:05] <titanium> TheGnome: huh?
[05:05] <dylan_> TheGnome, will you still be here?
[05:05] <TheGnome> dylan_, yup
[05:05] <dylan_> TheGnome, cool then brb
[05:05] <titanium> TheGnome: what is the keyring
[05:05] <halley> reka, audio seems fine
[05:06] <dannyu502_> reka, what is my source directory?
[05:06] <rickity> iiiears, my disk is 200 GB ..cds are out of the question
[05:06] <reka> halley: playback not stuttery?
[05:06] <iiiears> rickity - give "mondo" rescue a look. - it will save your image to just about aanything.
[05:06] <andy_> titanium, there's a command you should run, had that problem too, google for that key (key=that number)
[05:06] <dannyu502_> what is my source directory?
[05:07] <reka> /usr/local/src maybe?
[05:07] <halley> reka, dvd audio and playback is actually quite smooth
[05:07] <dylan_> TheGnome, its still effed up
[05:07] <dannyu502_> maybe?
[05:07] <halley> reka, good lip sync for now, I'll leave it to see if it slips
[05:08] <TheGnome> dylan_, that sucks
[05:08] <dylan_> TheGnome, what do you recommend aside from the default music player?
[05:08] <dannyu502_> Is anyone SURE what the source directory is?
[05:08] <TheGnome> dylan_, xmms ....... mplayer
[05:08] <dylan_> TheGnome, why was everybody raving bmp?
[05:09] <TheGnome> dylan_, dont know
[05:09] <TheGnome> dylan_, bmp i cool..........just not my thing
[05:09] <reka> dylan_: it's prettier
[05:09] <dylan_> TheGnome, ah
[05:09] <Gatton> bmp is primarily what i use. it's good if you already like/use xmms or winamp
[05:09] <dylan_> TheGnome, ah?
[05:09] <TheGnome> what is chatzilla?
[05:09] <Gatton> personally i think it's too small. my old eyes maybe :)
[05:09] <dylan_> reka, can it do as much?
[05:10] <andy_> giva amarok a try?
[05:10] <TheGnome> what is chatzilla?
[05:10] <reka> dylan_: yes, it's a development fork. i can't see why people would opt for xmms over it.
[05:10] <TheGnome> amarok is very cool
[05:10] <reka> *xmms development fork
[05:10] <TheGnome> but it is qt
[05:10] <dylan_> reka, define "development fork" please
[05:10] <reka> dylan_: well, in my terms..."based on xmms"
[05:10] <andy_> qt?
[05:10] <dannyu502_> reka, it says "Go to source-directory"..... which onw is that
[05:10] <coolkev> Is there a firewall software i can use on ubuntu that will give me more control and option then firestarter... i want something like maybe zone alarm or Sygate personal Firewall on the windows OS
[05:11] <TheGnome> reka, becuse the controls suck
[05:11] <dylan_> reka, so its better right?
[05:11] <dannyu502_> reka, Seveas, it says "Go to source-directory"..... which onw is that
[05:11] <reka> dylan_: imo, yes...but try it....i'm not making an opinion for you :P
[05:11] <coolkev> I want a firewall that i can set up to allow certain ports to open but can only be access by a certain program
[05:11] <dylan_> reka, have you ever heard of the distro "BeatrIX Linux" ?
[05:11] <TheGnome> dylan_, just try them all till you find one you like
[05:11] <TheGnome> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <ubotu> No idea, TheGnome
[05:11] <iiiears> coolkev - if you find it let me know.
[05:11] <reka> TheGnome: which controls?
[05:11] <TheGnome> easy as pie
[05:12] <reka> dylan_: no, don't really keep track of what's out there
[05:12] <coolkev> firestarter i think is weak and doesn't give me control to select an active connection and block it
[05:12] <dannyu502_> reka, Seveas, TheGnome, it says "Go to source-directory"..... which one is that
[05:12] <coolkev> which is very insecure
[05:12] <titanium> andy_: ah i found what you meant
[05:12] <dylan_> TheGnome, can i ask you a few questions...maybe pm you?
[05:12] <coolkev> espessially for linux which struves to be secure
[05:12] <coolkev> strives*
[05:13] <TheGnome> dylan_, ok
[05:13] <andy_> coolkev, try guarddog
[05:13] <zerboxx> Anyone here run fvwm?
[05:13] <coolkev> does it have a gui?
[05:13] <dannyu502_> Can ANYONE tell me which one is my source-directory?????
[05:13] <iiiears> sygate also does some nice things to fight attacks. like turning off their ip address for a set time.
[05:14] <titanium> andy_: ok i got the repos. added properly in synaptic but when i try to update it i get a depedency error. any thoughts?
[05:14] <titanium> "Depends: nxagent but it is not going to be installed"
[05:14] <dannyu502_> nooo one knows what the source-directory is??
[05:14] <linuxpoet> How do I get Hoary to stop asking for the cd and use the internet archives?
[05:14] <iiiears> would love to have sygate's  file checksumming in linux.
[05:15] <Unununium> linuxpoet: remove the CD from sources.list
[05:15] <Unununium> linuxpoet: it's in /etc/apt
[05:15] <iiiears> sygate = windows
[05:15] <dannyu502_> SoMe OnE PlEaSe HeLp Me?!?!!?!?!
[05:15] <Unununium> iiiears: you can probably whip something up with sha1sum and cron
[05:15] <coolkev> linuxpoet: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <andy_>  coolkev do you really need a firewall? just watch your inetd
[05:15] <Gatton> linuxboy, you can comment out the cd in your sources.list
[05:15] <coolkev> yes offcourse i need one
[05:15] <iiiears> tripwire
[05:16] <coolkev> what kind of a question is that in this day of age
[05:16] <andy_> titanium, apt-get install -f prognameyouwanttoinstall
[05:16] <linuxpoet> Doh
[05:16] <Unununium> -f
[05:16] <Unununium> What does -f mean?
[05:16] <linuxpoet> Of course I wouldn't notice the VERY FIRST LINE of the sources file
[05:16] <andy_> fix
[05:16] <reka> i though the biggest risk of damage to linux boxes was when someone had physical access
[05:17] <Unununium> linuxpoet: it's too obvious; it's like trying to determine the shape of the earth whilst standing on it
[05:17] <reka> i.e. you don't really need a firewall
[05:17] <coolkev> yes you do
[05:17] <Unununium> To prevent fire from gaining physical access
[05:17] <reka> andy_: isn't it force?
[05:17] <linuxpoet> heh
[05:17] <Unununium> Ah
[05:17] <titanium> andy_: freenx: Depends: nxagent (>= 1.4.90) but it is not going to be installed
[05:17] <andy_> reka, no not in apt-get
[05:17] <Unununium> Is there an --extreme-prejudice option?
[05:17] <titanium> with apt-get install -f freenx
[05:17] <iiiears> Unununium, Earth's "shape"? - the earth is flat and windows is secure. - no?
[05:17] <andy_> ther eit stands for fix-broken
[05:18] <halley> reka, sound stays locked and smooth, but there's a regular dropped frame problem that's worse than usual.  Like a 24frames per 30fields, but really obvious.
[05:18] <remyforbes777> hey guys i just bought a new amd turion laptop and I am trying to install a 64 bit version of linux on there from an iso image but it wont boot. any ideas
[05:18] <reka> andy_: right you are...just checked the man page :)
[05:18] <coolkev> i recommend firewalls and anti-virus for all users to use
[05:18] <coolkev> casue it's better to safe then NOT
[05:18] <halley> Unununium, to paraphrase Asimov, '--force' is the last refuge of the incompetent.  ;)
[05:18] <reka> halley: enable DMA on your DVD drive
[05:18] <coolkev> and i think other ubuntu user should incourage this
[05:18] <halley> reka, HOWTO?
[05:19] <Gatton> remyforbes777, it doesn't boot the cd?
[05:19] <remyforbes777> no
[05:19] <reka> !dma
[05:19] <remyforbes777> even though its set in bios to boot from cd
[05:19] <reka> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[05:19] <iiiears> coolkev - and snort profiling and ip address blackholing - only the paranoid survive. - grin
[05:19] <marcin> hi all
[05:19] <Unununium> They really are out to get you
[05:19] <remyforbes777> is there another file along with the iso image that i have to burn on the cd in order to get it to boot
[05:20] <Unununium> At least, I am
[05:20] <coolkev> iiiears are you making fun of me?
[05:20] <Gatton> remyforbes777, no, if it's a good burn you shouldn't need anything else
[05:20] <iiiears> no
[05:20] <coolkev> for telling people to secure them selfs
[05:20] <remyforbes777> dang
[05:20] <bur[n] er> has anyone seen GDM freeze whenever you pick a different session?  as soon as I pick Xfce instead of Last, the PC freezes and I have to hard reboot
[05:20] <james> eclipse needs a jre, can i get one from apt-get?
[05:20] <bur[n] er> james: no
[05:20] <bur[n] er> james: check the ubuntu wiki for java
[05:20] <andy_> coolkev, do you run a server?
[05:20] <marcin> could someone tell me how can I set high resolution on console in ubuntu?
[05:20] <bimberi> !java
[05:20] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:20] <halley> reka, easy enough, thanks.
[05:20] <Unununium> burner: can you access the computer from the network when it's "frozen"?
[05:20] <coolkev> sometimes
[05:20] <Unununium> ping it, ssh to it
[05:21] <bluefoxicy> spellcheck continues to NOT WORK in OpenOffice2 on breezy.
[05:21] <Unununium> marcin: pass vga=ask to Linux at boot time, then pick a mode
[05:21] <bur[n] er> Unununium: nope
[05:21] <bur[n] er> i can't ctrl+alt+f2 either
[05:22] <iiiears> coolkev - http://isc.sans.org/diary.php - internet "weather report".
[05:22] <Unununium> Incidentally, I have made a patch allowing 132x60 on my particular graphics card, something SVGATextMode doesn't know how to do
[05:22] <ezek> can i get help plz ?
[05:22] <Unununium> No, not until you ask your question
[05:22] <bur[n] er> Unununium: by any chance is yours a widescreen latop?
[05:22] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er: right alt + printscreen + [EISUO]  in that order, 3 seconds between, clean shutdown.
[05:22] <Unununium> 132x60 gives tall, skinny characters which look nice
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  if that doesn't work, it is indeed hard frozen.  2.6.10 I take it?
[05:23] <reka> Unununium: seeing as you're a console buff, do you know if it's possible to change the refresh rate?
[05:23] <bur[n] er> [EISUO] 
[05:23] <coolkev> the version of guarddog in the ubuntu repos have been way outdated
[05:23] <ezek> Unununium i'd need support to do this
[05:23] <reka> Unununium: 60Hz is hard on the eyes
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  I use 2.6.12 because 10 hard-locks for me a lot.
[05:23] <ezek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17019&highlight=retrieve+root+password
[05:23] <c0rrupt_> how can i get the version number of a given file through apt-get
[05:23] <Unununium> Are you using a "text" or "graphics" mode on your card?
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  yes, sigtErm, sigkIll, Sync, Unmount, Off
[05:23] <coolkev> on repo is 2.3.2 and current stable version is 2.4.0
[05:23] <reka> Unununium: heh, not sure to be honest
[05:23] <c0rrupt_> how can i get the version number of a given file through apt-get
[05:24] <Unununium> You can tell by looking at your cursor and watching how it is rendered
[05:24] <Unununium> Text cursors are in the same "foreground" color and overlay the text
[05:24] <Unununium> Framebuffer cursors invert, or something different.  Anyway, they look different to me
[05:24] <marcin> Unununium: thx, trying in a moment
[05:24] <bur[n] er> bluefoxicy: i'll try .12, though I think my issue is X related only
[05:24] <bimberi> c0rrupt_: dpkg -l <package>
[05:25] <Unununium> Also, the blink rate is always, always constant, whereas the framebuffer cursor seems to speed up, pause, slow down as you move it around on the screen
[05:25] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  possibly.  If it's X freezing, the magic sysrq stuff should still work
[05:25] <ezek> ubuntu/knopp!x where can i find that ?
[05:25] <c0rrupt_> bimberi, nien
[05:25] <bur[n] er> bluefoxicy: good call
[05:25] <c0rrupt_> through apt
[05:25] <Unununium> You can also try Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace
[05:25] <sproingie> what's ctrl-alt-f1 do?
[05:25] <reka> Unununium: so what'd the next step be after working out which mode?
[05:26] <sproingie> oh duh switch vc's
[05:26] <Unununium> Switches away from X to a text terminal
[05:26] <Unununium> Or you can hold Ctrl+Alt while pulling the power plug
[05:26] <TheGnome> why when i close rythmbox it doesnt close to system tray?  it has an icon there
[05:26] <Unununium> reka: is it text or framebuffer?
[05:26] <Unununium> 60Hz is likely to be framebuffer
[05:26] <reka> Unununium: framebuffer i think
[05:26] <biscuit_> Can someone help me with configuring ESD in ubuntu?
[05:27] <Unununium> get fbset
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> !ESD
[05:27] <ubotu> I heard esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[05:27] <reka> and seeing as how i passed a vga option, i assume that is another sign?
[05:27] <Unununium> biscuit: what's there to configure?
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu, how helpful
[05:27] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:27] <Unununium> reka: no, VGA does text as well as graphics.  What option did you pass?
[05:27] <bimberi> Hey thoreauputic, how's the 'gong? :)
[05:27] <biscuit_> Im not getting any sound
[05:27] <reka> checking
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> no, it's a biscuit you stupid bot...
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:27] <Unununium> Oh, and oops, not all "graphics" mode consoles are handled by the Linux framebuffer (I don't think)
[05:27] <andy_> ezek, knoppix is a linux on cd version
[05:27] <coolkev> !ubotu fortune
[05:27] <ubotu> coolkev: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:28] <coolkev> !ubotu fortune
[05:28] <reka> Unununium: vga=0x318, which is apparently 1024x768
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> !fod
[05:28] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:28] <iiiears> ubotu you stink.
[05:28] <biscuit_> !Nicaragua
[05:28] <ubotu> No you stink, iiiears.
[05:28] <ubotu> biscuit_: Are you smoking crack?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> !fud
[05:28] <ubotu> methinks fud is [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.
[05:28] <f_newton> well crap cant seem to get java working in ubuntu
[05:28] <Unununium> reka: fbset will let you do whatever you want
[05:28] <coolkev> !ubotu smoke?
[05:28] <ubotu> coolkev: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:28] <andy_> what they say there is if you don't remember your password, yu have to get acces to your pc on a alternative way
[05:28] <bur[n] er> thanks for the help all... hopefully something works here
[05:28] <coolkev> !ubotu yes
[05:28] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, coolkev?
[05:28] <reka> Unununium: thanks, will look into it
[05:28] <avanspronsen> !java
[05:29] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:29] <coolkev> !ubotu Ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[05:29] <Unununium> andy_: Like booting with the init=/bin/sh option
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> ColonelKernel, ah we thinks humor someone programmed into ubotu
[05:29] <biscuit_> !Nicaragua!
[05:29] <ubotu> biscuit_: Are you on ritalin?
[05:29] <sproingie> coolkev: you and uboto get a room, ok?
[05:29] <biscuit_> :-P
[05:29] <Unununium> ritalout
[05:29] <coolkev> is SElinux intergated into ubuntu?
[05:29] <speel> !awards
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> sproingie, LOLROTF
[05:29] <ubotu> from memory, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> hey, linuxrocks too ...hehe
[05:29] <Unununium> turok?
[05:29] <marcin> Unununium: sorry no effect after vga=ask
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> tuvock
[05:30] <andy_> Unununium, could be, dunno, havent forgot my password yet :d
[05:30] <Unununium> marcin: Maybe you don't have VGA mode selection compiled into your kernel.
[05:30] <coolkev> is SElinux integrated in Hoary or will be added to breezy?
[05:30] <marcin> Unununium: I got default hoary kernel
[05:30] <biscuit_> Does anyone here use Linuxant?
[05:30] <Unununium> andy_: I usually use that to log into computers whose root passwords I have never known
[05:30] <biscuit_> !linuxant
[05:30] <ubotu> biscuit_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:30] <biscuit_> !:-P
[05:30] <ubotu> biscuit_: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:30] <TheGnome> why when i close rythmbox it doesnt close to system tray?  it has an icon there
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> you guys
[05:31] <andy_> :)
[05:31] <Unununium> marcin: vga=ask queries the BIOS for modes and gives you a selection.  All this is done in video.S before leaving "real mode"
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <biscuit_> Does anyone here use dialup?
[05:31] <Unununium> I do
[05:31] <Unununium> 28.8!
[05:31] <coolkev> is SElinux integrated in Hoary or will be added to breezy?
[05:31] <Unununium> Slow down son, you're talking too fast!
[05:31] <marcin> Unununium: I had this selection
[05:31] <TheGnome> im too cool to use dialup...........28.8 wow i feel sorry for you
[05:32] <biscuit_> Unununium: Linuxant by any chance?
[05:32] <Unununium> Noisy phone lines and an out-of-the-way locale... what can I say?
[05:32] <PurpleMotion> I haven't owned a modem since 1998
[05:32] <andy_> Unununium, sometimes this chat must look like tetris level five to you
[05:32] <biscuit_> I live to far from Hi-Speed...
[05:32] <Unununium> linuxant??
[05:32] <marcin> Unununium: but after log in I switched to console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and it is still in low resolution
[05:32] <Unununium> It's... interesting.
[05:32] <Unununium> marcin: 80x25?
[05:32] <biscuit_> Linuxant.... Very bad Driver....
[05:33] <coolkev> can anyone answer the question: Is SElinux integrated in Hoary or will be added to breezy?
[05:33] <Unununium> Oh, modem driver.  No, I have an external serial modem.
[05:33] <Unununium> Two, actually
[05:33] <biscuit_> Oh
[05:33] <marcin> Unununium: propably yes
[05:33] <biscuit_> How much did they cost?
[05:33] <iiiears> !breezy
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:33] <Unununium> marcin: echo $LINES and echo $COLUMNS if you want to check
[05:33] <TylerE> I'm having an issue with the Generic IDE stuff. It's kicking in BEFORE my hardware specific driver (VP_IDE) and preventing me from getting DMA. System is AMD64 running 2.6.11-1-k8 kernel
[05:33] <PurpleMotion> does anyone know how to spell 'inna godda davida' the right way? as in fromt he opera
[05:33] <crimsun> coolkev: the infrastructure is present, but it won't be enabled by default.
[05:33] <laughingMan> hello, i have a trouble run mozilla with flahs plugin
[05:33] <Unununium> biscuit_: the modems?  $50-$100 each, I think
[05:33] <biscuit_> Ok
[05:33] <PurpleMotion> TylerE:  so turn off generic ide support
[05:33] <laughingMan> mozilla crach when i load a file contain flash animation
[05:34] <TylerE> how exactly do I do that?
[05:34] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, as in not Iron Butterfly?
[05:34] <coolkev> how can i harness the securtiy benefits offered by SElinux
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> recompile the kernel
[05:34] <marcin> Unununium: yes it is 80x25
[05:34] <Unununium> PurpleMotion: inna gadda da vida
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  yeah..
[05:34] <andy_> laughingMan, how did you install the flash plugin?
[05:34] <biscuit_> What are some good Partition programs for Linux?
[05:34] <TylerE> *sigh*
[05:34] <laughingMan> with apt-get
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  tyvm
[05:34] <Unununium> biscuit_: I usually use fdisk even though it's rumored to suck
[05:34] <TylerE> it seems so stupid and wrong that it uses the generic driver before trying hardware specific drivers
[05:34] <sproingie> coolkev: install grsec.  you'll get all the benefits of selinux and then some
[05:34] <GattonAFK> didn't realize there was such an opera
[05:34] <coolkev> biscuit_: gparted
[05:34] <biscuit_> Oh
[05:34] <TheGnome> biscuit_, umm fdisk
[05:34] <laughingMan> i try to instal it manual too
[05:34] <reka> biscuit_: qtparted/gparted iirc
[05:34] <biscuit_> Isn't fdisk windows?
[05:34] <TheGnome> biscuit_, and gparted
[05:35] <crimsun> coolkev: you'll need to check a lot of the documentation scattered across the Web
[05:35] <Unununium> marcin: I forgot what we were doing
[05:35] <sproingie> coolkev: selinux doesnt look slated for breezy.  maybe the next one
[05:35] <iiiears> crimsun - are you using 64 bit linux?
[05:35] <marcin> Unununium: heh I propably got it in kernel .config I got CONFIG_FB is not set and CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set
[05:35] <biscuit_> Would installing Linux on an External HD work?
[05:35] <TheGnome> biscuit_, there is fdisk in linux
[05:35] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  you wouldnt happen to have it would you ;)
[05:35] <crimsun> iiiears: I have a pbuilder running on amd64, but I don't use it as a desktop.
[05:35] <biscuit_> TheGnome: Where at
[05:35] <Unununium> PurpleMotion: yes
[05:35] <sproingie> is there a "what's new in breezy" for literates?
[05:36] <TheGnome> biscuit_, type fdisk in term
[05:36] <Unununium> marcin: you sure you got stock Hoary?
[05:36] <biscuit_> ok
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  the one from indiana jones and the temple of doom, right?
[05:36] <Unununium> I don't know about that
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> cause all im getting is iron butterfly
[05:36] <Unununium> But maybe I should see that movie again
[05:36] <marcin> Unununium: we were trying to set higher resolution on console with vga=ask
[05:36] <iiiears> Okay. - always appreciate your advice going to need a bit in a couple weeks.
[05:36] <Unununium> Ah.  What resolution do you want?
[05:36] <marcin> Unununium: well yes - stock Hoary but with K7 kernel
[05:36] <Unununium> And, you can wait until later to do it via fbcon and fbset
[05:36] <Unununium> Or you can use SVGATextMode and avoid fbcon
[05:37] <xbins> anyone help me with a startup question?
[05:37] <Unununium> (heh, NOW it feels like Tetris!)
[05:37] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  im just trying to clarify... we're talking about the classical choir piece.. its really suspensful and builds constantly through the song
[05:37] <Unununium> Hey, my Hoary kernel has CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
[05:37] <Unununium> PurpleMotion: no, I just have the Iron Butterfly
[05:38] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, i am banging my head but can't think of any choral piece with that name
[05:38] <thoreauputic> heh - for a weird experience, run some video file using aaxine .... bizarre
[05:38] <crimsun> Unununium: yes, as I mentioned, the infrastructure is present and disabled by default.
[05:38] <marcin> Unununium: I don't know what resolution... something simmilar to what I have on X
[05:38] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, you don't know the composer do you?
[05:38] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  no, and it's driving me crazy too.. have you ever seen temple of doom?
[05:38] <marcin> Unununium: the higher available is 132x44
[05:38] <coolkev> is there any way to change the background color for the gnome loading screen after u login for the first time
[05:38] <Unununium> marcin: my Hoary has CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
[05:38] <xbins> i'm running openbox (no gnome) and I want the gnome-panel to run at startup, how do I get that into init in dbian?
[05:38] <Unununium> marcin: If you have an ATI you can do 132x60 with my patch
[05:38] <coolkev> i don't like the defualt brown color added by ubuntu
[05:38] <PurpleMotion> coolkev:  so change it
[05:38] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, not in many years. It's my least fav of the series I'm afraid. But if it's in that movie surely I can find out
[05:39] <marcin> yes I got ATI
[05:39] <Unununium> It adds a mode VGA=BEEF
[05:39] <f_newton> yeah it is kinda blah isnt it?
[05:39] <coolkev> the question was HOW
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> heh its my favorite fromt he series
[05:39] <TheGnome> coolkev, so change it
[05:39] <sproingie> gnome is a study in the color brown.  ubuntu embraces brown.
[05:39] <aru> Unununium: well... at least it atkins approved? :)
[05:39] <f_newton> sproingie yer fulluvit
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  it's the climax music when they're actually int he temple and they get noticed
[05:39] <Unununium> Yes, it's actually 0xBEEF which is very high in protein
[05:39] <coolkev> how can i change it?
[05:39] <ezek> can anyone would like to help me to reset my root password ?
[05:39] <marcin> Unununium: yes I got ATi although I don't use fglrx drivers because I couldn't set up them
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> PurpleMotion, easier said than done... the brown default that splashes.. .even when youchange the background color and image and splash image
[05:39] <LaserJock> xbins: how are you starting openbox? GDM?
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> still stays brown
[05:39] <Unununium> What's fglrx?
[05:39] <xbins> ues
[05:40] <xbins> yes, even
[05:40] <marcin> Unununium: they didn't want to run with my DVI connection
[05:40] <sproingie> Unununium: the ATI driver
[05:40] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, ok. Lemme check it out. It may be a piece that John Williams wrote for the score though
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> ezek, reset?
[05:40] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  ati drivers
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> ezek, there is not on ubuntu
[05:40] <sproingie> !fglrx
[05:40] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <f_newton> there are splash screens you can change it to if you really want to
[05:40] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  i was told it was inna gadda da vida
[05:40] <iiiears> !splashscreen
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> !root
[05:40] <ubotu> splashscreen is, like, to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[05:40] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:40] <f_newton> its only for a second or two thoughj
[05:40] <Unununium> Never heard of it; I'm using "radeon" successfully
[05:40] <TheGnome> ok guys........change your background color to ..whatever ....then change gdm backgorund to whatever....no more brown
[05:40] <reka> marcin: what probs did you have with them?
[05:40] <f_newton> its not that you cant get used to it
[05:40] <f_newton> ya know?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> ah, oke ..   TheFoam rocks
[05:41] <marcin> reka: I could only use them with VGA not DVI
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> TheGnome, lol
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> quantum foam whence we roam
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> nn all
[05:41] <Unununium> marcin: let me see if I can find my patch.  It's five years old or more, though...
[05:41] <sproingie> Unununium: radeon is for older ati chipsets
[05:41] <Unununium> But then again the video.S code hasn't changed very much
[05:41] <f_newton> TheGnome, the gdms provided by ubuntu are brown, touchyfeely brown and multi touchy feely brown
[05:41] <iiiears> Gnome is almost infinitely configurable - take a peak at gnomelook.org
[05:41] <biscuit_> How do you compile .dlls with Wine?
[05:41] <Unununium> sproingie: such as the Radeon? :^)
[05:41] <Unununium> http://ioioio.net/xorg.conf
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> !wine
[05:42] <TheGnome> f_newton, if you go into gdm setup.....you can change
[05:42] <iiiears> !cedega
[05:42] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:42] <f_newton> yes and you can also download some rather nice ones from the net as well
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> try here ... http://www.winehq.org
[05:42] <LaserJock> xbins: you need to change the way that GDM starts openbox
[05:42] <andy_> ezek with sudo you must use your normal user pass
[05:42] <TheGnome> f_newton, DONT FORGET TO CHANGE BACKGORUND COLOR or else at boot it will be brown
[05:42] <coolkev> i installed gtweakui... now where do i go or what do i type to access it
[05:42] <andy_> you can add a root pass however
[05:42] <xbins> is there a gdm config I change, or what?
[05:42] <andy_> then yo type su
[05:42] <Unununium> sudo passwd root
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> andy_, but why?
[05:42] <ksmurf> hello all ... is there a specific breezy channel?
[05:42] <f_newton> TheGnome, I changed my desktop background.  I really dont worry about the gdm
[05:43] <iiiears> ubotu wine is also try here ... http://www.winehq.org
[05:43] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:43] <biscuit_> Te he he
[05:43] <Unununium> marcin: http://ioioio.net/fonts/ and http://ioioio.net/fonts/kernel/
[05:43] <alie> anybody can help me with bonobo and gnome
[05:43] <TheGnome> f_newton, did you change the color too
[05:43] <Unununium> I apologize for the suck value of the code.  It's very very old
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> biscuit_, now he knows...
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> !wine
[05:43] <LaserJock> xbins: you can either have GDM start a default session that will use your ~/.xinitrc file or you can create a new xsession file that executes a shell script
[05:43] <alie> it is giving error nautilus cannot find bonobo factory
[05:43] <f_newton> lol TheGnome I changed to clearlooks and the background color yues
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu tell biscuit_ about wine
[05:44] <f_newton> right now I am trying to get java to work
[05:44] <killahkosha> So the Ubuntu livecd, it is installable right?
[05:44] <alie> i have reinstalled nautilus gnome still the error is there
[05:44] <reka> coolkev: maybe try 'gtweakui'
[05:44] <coolkev> i did'
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> killahkosha, no
[05:44] <coolkev> doesn't do anything
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> killahkosha, you need the install cd
[05:44] <f_newton> earthtones are not my favorite
[05:44] <killahkosha> oh bleh
[05:44] <killahkosha> how large is the livecd
[05:44] <reka> coolkev: no such file?
[05:44] <killahkosha> can't decide if its worthy of trying it out
[05:44] <coolkev> yep
[05:44] <xbins> I like the .xinitrc file idea, how do I make it run that?
[05:45] <f_newton> but in the right perspective they are nice ... if you have enough green
[05:45] <Unununium> marcin: the 2.4.1 patch won't apply cleanly to 2.6.whatever due to the addition of some power management stuff
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> killahkosha, it is
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> very good
[05:45] <biscuit_> nomasteryoda, ?
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> oh, about wine
[05:45] <marcin> Unununium: ok I'll try to google yet more
[05:45] <marcin> Unununium: thanks for now
[05:45] <alie> any one working with gnome ?
[05:45] <reka> coolkev: dpkg -L and then look for files in /usr/bin/
[05:45] <marcin> alie: no
[05:45] <marcin> alie: we all use ion3 ;)
[05:45] <reka> *dpkg -L gtweakui
[05:46] <killahkosha> I assume it already comes with 3d-accelerated drivers for my Nvidia 6600GT?
[05:46] <Unununium> marcin: If (when) I find the 2.6 version I'll upload it.  What is your email address?
[05:46] <alie> ion3 ? what is hat ?
[05:46] <alie> that
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> biscuit_, you were Te he he about iiiears posting info into wine
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> er, into ubotu
[05:46] <LaserJock> xbins: put "gnome-panel &" followed by "openbox" in your .xinitrc file
[05:46] <marcin> Unununium: marcin.antczak at gmail.com
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> how
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> do i see
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> quick simple question: i want to run a command exactly two hours from now, how would i do that?
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> the version.
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> of a file i am about to install
[05:46] <crimsun> EasterSunshine: man 5 crontab should show you an example
[05:46] <iiiears> !cron
[05:46] <xbins> is that all i need to do?
[05:46] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[05:47] <marcin> alie: ion3 - next generation default window manager for ubuntu ;D
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> thx chimsun
[05:47] <ksmurf> how do you reconfigure xorg on breezy?
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> !
[05:47] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> crimsun*
[05:47] <crimsun> ksmurf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:47] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine:   sleep 2h && yourcommand
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, ..?
[05:47] <alie> but how to get that ?
[05:47] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, ..?
[05:47] <Unununium> marcin: will do.
[05:47] <Unununium> Hey, I should go.  Bedtime approacheth.
[05:47] <alie> marcin what is taht
[05:47] <Unununium> I'll get the printer stuff figured out after I upgrade things.
[05:47] <marcin> alie: http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> packets of 5 whats the hell does that mean
[05:47] <biscuit_> Noooo...... i was testing to see if i was lagging out
[05:47] <biscuit_> I just say random stuff to test it
[05:47] <marcin> alie: it is really window manager
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> hmm...i think i'll use thor's; thx
[05:48] <marcin> alie: and personally I think that it is the best window manager and I'm using it now
[05:48] <killahkosha> Is Openoffice.org a gnome or kde application?
[05:48] <alie> so i wont need to use bonobo nautilus
[05:48] <alie> ?
[05:49] <iiiears> EasterSunshine, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22401.html
[05:49] <alie> marcin,  i wont need to use bonobo gnome ?
[05:49] <TheGnome> openoffice is java i think
[05:49] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: you might also read  "man at "  :)
[05:49] <marcin> alie: but it was only a joke while well almost all 'ubuntoers' love pretty icons and nice graphisc in gnome/kde
[05:49] <IcemanV9> killahkosha: either
[05:49] <bur[n] er> openoffice has java components
[05:49] <killahkosha> Well I mean, does it use the Gtk or Qt?
[05:49] <iiiears> thoreauputic - you are great! :)
[05:49] <f_newton> !java
[05:49] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:49] <Gatton> ooo uses gtk as far as i know
[05:49] <PurpleMotion> hehe, i found the greatest american hero soundtrack :D
[05:50] <PurpleMotion> err theme song
[05:50] <killahkosha> All right cool, thanks.
[05:50] <marcin> alie: but seriously what do you need?
[05:50] <Gatton> believe it or not
[05:50] <Gatton> george isn't at home
[05:50] <andy_> i'll go piss and sleep it's 5.50 am here and there's a blonde in my bed
[05:50] <LaserJock> I thought that ooo had its own widget set, or maybe i'm wrong
[05:50] <alie> marcin i am getting an error that nautilus cannot connect to bonobo server
[05:50] <thoreauputic> iiiears: thanks for the compliment but I just have an undiscriminating fly-paper mind ;)
[05:50] <PurpleMotion> \:D/ Believe it or not, IIIIIIIIIIIm walkin on air.. I never thought I could be so freee-eeee-eeee.. Flyin away on a wing a prayer, who could it beeeeeeee? Believe it or not it's just meeeeeee \:D/
[05:50] <TheGnome> andy_, WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:50] <alie> marcin, i am getting an error that nautilus cannot connect to bonobo server
[05:50] <TheGnome> andy_, how old are you?
[05:51] <andy_> 24
[05:51] <marcin> alie: stock nautilus on hoary?
[05:51] <ms12> anyone know if i can run evolution from icewm
[05:51] <reka> andy_: you own a labrador? :P
[05:51] <alie> i am a newbie i dont know what is stock ?
[05:51] <andy_> no a german shepherd
[05:51] <thoreauputic> ms12: yes, of course
[05:51] <marcin> alie: installed from package?
[05:51] <reka> ms12: yes.
[05:51] <alie> marcin, from interne
[05:51] <alie> marcin, from internet
[05:52] <ms12> thoreauptic do not know why it is not working here will try again i just installed it and am really impressed by its speed
[05:52] <marcin> alie: hmm what do you mean 'from internet' ?
[05:52] <alie> marcin, nautilus as well as gnome reinstalled from internet
[05:52] <alie> marcin, i mean downloaded from repositories
[05:52] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, i found the Temple of Doom soundtrack. Gonna suck it down and see if I can find that track
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> wow where'd you find it?
[05:52] <reka> ms12: i'm a fan as well....bit ugly though :)
[05:52] <thoreauputic> ms12: you should be able to run it by typing " evolution" in a terminal, if it isn't in your menu
[05:53] <killahkosha> Wow, only 580mb for the install cd, all the Gnome and whatnot is on that right?
[05:53] <ms12> ok thanks guys i guess my menu link want to be modified for it ran from the terminal thanx again and sorry for the stupid ques
[05:53] <Gatton> soundtrack newsgroup
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> wow
[05:53] <marcin> alie: ok, you upgraded nautilus with synaptic or something?
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> any chance i can get you to send me that? :D I'll set you up an ftp on my server at interserver.net
[05:53] <ms12> reka its pretty fast faster then enlightenment which i like
[05:53] <zerboxx> Anyone here use fvwm that can help me out with a few things?
[05:53] <goldenfox> is it true that ubuntu is giving away free cds?
[05:53] <avanspronsen> !shipit
[05:53] <ubotu> [shipit]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/shipit/link_view
[05:53] <reka> killahkosha: yep
[05:53] <alie> marcin, from apt-get install gnome
[05:53] <ms12> got to go now experiment with it so have fun guys take care
[05:53] <IcemanV9> killahkosha: yep
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> i think the song might be temple of doom
[05:53] <alie> apt-get install nautilus
[05:53] <reka> goldenfox: yep
[05:53] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, sure. send me the info. it'll take me a few minutes to download it
[05:54] <goldenfox> cool! That's cool
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> but ive heard the song on other movies too
[05:54] <Gatton> i'll just grab it all
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> cool
[05:54] <reka> ms12: tried xfce?
[05:54] <iiiears> ubotu cron is "sleep 2h && yourcommand" "man at or man crontab" and this link  "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22401.html" did this help?
[05:54] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> u rock
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> Gatton:  toss me either your aim or icq or yahoo or msn
[05:54] <marcin> alie: I have to go now...
[05:54] <marcin> alie: but try to
[05:54] <marcin> alie: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <alie> ok
[05:55] <alie> marcin, thanks ;)
[05:55] <thoreauputic> iiiears: the sleep command really has nothing to do with cron, and neither does "at", you know...
[05:55] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, i am the last person on the planet not using IM ;).  can you send me info at jelunsford@gmail.com
[05:55] <marcin> alie: or run synaptic and then reinstall nautluis package
[05:55] <iiiears> lol - any hints?
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> hah, ill just msg u
[05:55] <Gatton> ok
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> and yeah,y ou're the lastest
[05:55] <goldenfox> what does ubuntu distribution password means?
[05:56] <biscuit_> Muahahahaha I shall have Linux on the Go!
[05:56] <alie> marcin, ok
[05:56] <thoreauputic> iiiears: maybe the factoid should be something like "delay" - also note that sleep 2h means delay two hours (m is minutes, s seconds)
[05:56] <iiiears> wishing it had the man entries for each command and an additional reference link - you might ask "man at" get the info plus related commands.
[05:56] <killahkosha> I'm glad I'm going to try out Ubuntu, I realized an hour ago that all the applications that I use are available for Linux :)
[05:56] <alie> marcin, how to install xfce
[05:56] <alie> marcin, apt-get ?
[05:57] <killahkosha> How does OpenOffice.org compare to Office 2003 though?
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> you get all that gatton?
[05:57] <TheGnome> openoffice is way better
[05:57] <iiiears> ubotu forget cron
[05:57] <ubotu> iiiears: i forgot cron
[05:57] <alie> its free and work of good people
[05:57] <killahkosha> Like is it a night and day difference in functionality?
[05:57] <alie> killahkosha, who love the world
[05:57] <iiiears> ubotu delay is "sleep 2h && yourcommand" "man at or man crontab" and this link  "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22401.html" did this help?
[05:57] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:57] <sproingie> killahkosha: i rather prefer office 2003.  except openoffice has fairly nice pdf creation abilities
[05:57] <reka> killahkosha: matter of opinion...does what it needs to for me
[05:57] <alie> killahkosha, support it
[05:57] <f_newton> well I guess java is not accessible for ubuntu
[05:57] <f_newton> strike one
[05:57] <alie> f_newton, it is
[05:57] <killahkosha> all right, I'll try it out, if it isn't very good I'll just keep the partition of Windows XP around :)
[05:58] <volvoguy> hey all. while i have what works of the breezy installer up on my laptop right now, and a usb key mounted, is there anything i can do (lspci, lsusb, etc) to aid in troubleshooting my install issues?
[05:58] <iiiears> delay is also  also note that sleep 2h means delay two hours (m is minutes, s seconds)
[05:58] <killahkosha> Anyone know of a free program for Windows to safely resize an Ntfs partition?
[05:58] <paulproteus> killahkosha: QtParted and a Knoppix ISO
[05:58] <iiiears> ubotu  delay is also note that sleep 2h means delay two hours (m is minutes, s seconds)
[05:58] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:58] <sproingie> killahkosha: ntfsresize, or just use qtparted which has it built in
[05:59] <iiiears> pastiche.
[05:59] <sproingie> killahkosha: best to use qtparted since there's a few different versions of ntfsresize going around, and the older versions aren't as safe
[05:59] <volvoguy> i think ntfsresize is on the hoary install and live cd's too.
[06:00] <zerboxx> I can play movies in xine, but when I try to play the same movies in gmplayer it freezes, anyone know why?
[06:00] <goldenfox> same here
[06:00] <reka> killahkosha, sproingie :  you can resize in the partitioning stage of install
[06:00] <goldenfox> have you tried mplayer?
[06:00] <killahkosha> Ohmer, all right sweet :)
[06:00] <IcemanV9> forgot mplayer, stick with xine :P
[06:00] <thoreauputic> iiiears: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html  <-- my humble timer :)
[06:00] <killahkosha> I'll back up the data just in case, can't hurt I suppose  :)
[06:00] <IcemanV9> *forget
[06:00] <goldenfox> xine is very slow here in my pc
[06:00] <f_newton> alie Ive installed it run the symlinks and it just doesnt work
[06:01] <sproingie> reka: good to know.  i never remember the installer that well, since i only ever aim to use it once
[06:01] <reka> killahkosha: very good idea
[06:01] <f_newton> so..
[06:01] <TheGnome> totem-xine is the way to go
[06:01] <reka> sproingie: it's kind of hidden though...which is unfortunate
[06:01] <sproingie> reka: i use the expert installer, i think it's totally hidden there
[06:01] <f_newton> TheGnome, totem-xine is a stripped down model
[06:01] <alie> f_newton, you are talking about java jdk ? is it ?
[06:01] <f_newton> no java runtime
[06:01] <alie> ok just download the bin file
[06:02] <goldenfox> totem-xine? never heard of it before
[06:02] <alie> f_newton,  just download the bin file
[06:02] <alie> f_newton, it will work
[06:02] <f_newton> alie done that, installed it, ran the symlink to the moz plugin
[06:02] <f_newton> it doesnt work
[06:02] <alie> ooh
[06:02] <reka> sproingie, killahkosha : you have to select 'manually edit the partition table', select the NTFS parition, press enter, select the size field, press enter, then enter the new size.
[06:02] <alie> f_newton, you are using which browser
[06:02] <f_newton> lol firefox
[06:02] <alie> f_newton, is it mozilla or mozilla-firefox ?
[06:03] <sproingie> reka: aieee, i would NEVER have believed that would *non-destructively* resize it
[06:03] <alie> f_newton, there are two browser plugin
[06:03] <sproingie> reka: i was brought up on fdisk .... you don't do that in fdisk :)
[06:03] <f_newton> alie....yes
[06:03] <reka> sproingie: well, it works. :)  i have no clue about fdisk
[06:03] <alie> f_newton, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins should have the link to java
[06:03] <f_newton> but if you put it in moz it should read in moz firefox but I put it in both just to be sure
[06:03] <alie> f_newton, not the mozilla plugins
[06:04] <f_newton> I will ls -l and see if its there
[06:04] <sproingie> reka: fdisk can't resize the partition at all, but if you delete it and add it back at a different size, it'll be happy to
[06:04] <iiiears> ubotu delay is also http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html << Thank You thoreauputic :)
[06:04] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[06:04] <sproingie> reka: won't preserve your data or anything of course
[06:04] <ushooz> anyone know why glade-2 (interface designer) does not bring up the windows to design the gui?
[06:04] <alie> f_newton, do it and check if it is symbolic link ;)
[06:04] <goldenfox> is there any chance i can choose what package to install when installing ubuntu?
[06:04] <reka> sproingie: i know someone who would use a mandrake install cd to set up partitions, then reboot before it installed the files. :)
[06:04] <sproingie> reka: i do that with a rescue cd that has qtparted, actually
[06:05] <thoreauputic> iiiears: heh - free advertising! <laugh>
[06:05] <goldenfox> use the ubuntu partitioning, much easier
[06:05] <sproingie> partitioning is something i do only once
[06:05] <spinkz>  I have a software raid /dev/md0... I accidently only initialized one drive so it looked like [_U]  .. I just added the second drive now.  so cat/proc/mdstat shows it is syncing.  It is ok to still use the partition that the raid is mounted to while its "hot" adding the second drive?
[06:06] <garyc> success sharing my folders now I want to share the printer
[06:06] <iiiears> just hoping ubotu doesn't boot himself for flooding when that query is entered nrly a paragraph. - not cutting a word of it.  - sheepish grin
[06:06] <garyc> printer installed ok with test page
[06:06] <sproingie> spinkz: depends what level of raid
[06:06] <spinkz> spo0nman, raid1
[06:06] <thoreauputic> iiiears: if it's too long it goes to /msg
[06:06] <garyc> how do I share it ??
[06:06] <reka> iiiears: i think he uses /msg when it's rather long
[06:06] <spinkz> sproingie, raid 1
[06:06] <sproingie> spinkz: you'll be fine, raid1 is designed to be redundant
[06:07] <goldenfox> can somebody explain to me what is raid?
[06:07] <spinkz> sproingie, so even when its rebuilding the second drive i can use the first?
[06:07] <sproingie> goldenfox: stands for "redundant array of individual disks"
[06:07] <desrt> goldenfox; multiple harddrives join together to make one virtual drive that is larger and more resiliant to failure
[06:07] <speel> raid is a bug spray
[06:07] <reka> wikipedia
[06:07] <goldenfox> oh.. cool
[06:07] <IcemanV9> lol @ speel :)
[06:08] <sproingie> goldenfox: basically it's a way of using a bunch of disks at once.  some configurations you can "stripe" them to be faster, some you can have one drive be a backup of the other
[06:08] <speel> ;D
[06:08] <garyc> Hey!  How do I share my printer
[06:08] <sproingie> goldenfox: and with 3 or more disks, you can get exotic combinations of the two
[06:08] <iiiears> !raid
[06:08] <ubotu> raid is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[06:08] <desrt> goldenfox; in RAID4/5 config (most common for large number of drives) for N drives of size S, you get (N-1)*S storage and your data is safe so long as only 1 drive fails
[06:08] <goldenfox> very cool
[06:08] <sm> good evening
[06:08] <Thewarmachine> I cant seem to get the f-spot source
[06:08] <desrt> goldenfox; if 2 disks fail you're in trouble, though :)
[06:08] <sm> how do I help someone open a lot of MS works files in ubuntu ?
[06:08] <Thewarmachine> website is congested I guess
[06:08] <garyc> I have samba installed  -  I don't see how to share it
[06:08] <thoreauputic> iiiears: did you download the script ? Install xdialog to make it work... :)
[06:08] <volvoguy> i'm doing raid1 on a hoary machine and it rocks. :)
[06:08] <goldenfox> hahaha...
[06:08] <sproingie> raid-1 is common for small servers, and it's usually software raid
[06:09] <Gatton> sm, have you tried opening in Open Office? not sure if it understands Works or not though
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> can someone direct me to a cvs repo
[06:09] <goldenfox> software raid?
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> or send me the source
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> ?
[06:09] <desrt> Thewarmachine; use apt-get source
[06:09] <sproingie> raid 4 and 5 use expensive hardware controllers for big servers
[06:09] <sm> Gatton: 1.1 doesn't at least, nor abiword
[06:09] <desrt> Thewarmachine; apt-get source f-spot
[06:09] <desrt> Thewarmachine; don't run with sudo
[06:09] <iiiears> thoreauputic - ubotu has a lot of scripts. - great teaching examples.
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> naw
[06:09] <sproingie> or for people who really want fast reliable access to their pr0n
[06:09] <sm> abiword looks otherwise perfect for this guy
[06:09] <Gatton> sm, yea i assumed OOo would be able to
[06:10] <volvoguy> sproingie, or paranoid people who want flac backups of their cd collection. ;)
[06:10] <Thewarmachine> ive got 0.0.13
[06:10] <Thewarmachine> that isnt in repo yet
[06:10] <Thewarmachine> i want 0.1.0
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> you know, I am pretty accomplished linuxwise
[06:11] <garyc> Hey can someone tell me how to share my printer
[06:11] <goldenfox> UBUNTU --> Fontconfig error - cannot load default config file?
[06:11] <sm> click click click! ah the joy of debian/ubuntu!
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> I just pester to gain an in-depth understanding
[06:11] <killahkosha> Ubuntu does dvd burning and all that right?
[06:11] <killahkosha> without too much difficulty?
[06:11] <TheGnome> 0.1.0      ..................  what app is it
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> so I apologize if im a nuisance
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> fspt thegnome
[06:11] <garyc> sm - do you know how to to share a printer after samba is in
[06:11] <alie> f_newton, works ?
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> f-spot
[06:12] <iiiears> ubotu tell garyc about samba
[06:12] <f_newton> not yet
[06:12] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, what is that?
[06:12] <sm> no, sorry
[06:12] <alie> ok
[06:12] <killahkosha> printers, crap, forgot about those, Ubuntu comes with drivers for laser printers?
[06:12] <ksmurf> I'm trying to setup the Nvidia driver on breezy.  Any hints or warnings b4 I start ? Please?
[06:12] <Thewarmachine> photo album thinger
[06:12] <Thewarmachine> I love it
[06:12] <dannyu502_> Can someone please help me by telling em how to fix this: Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build;  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[06:12] <iiiears> !nvidia-glx
[06:12] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[06:13] <volvoguy> ksmurf, the drive in universe or the one from nVidia/
[06:13] <Thewarmachine> !crack
[06:13] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[06:13] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:13] <DanusMcAnus> lol
[06:13] <goldenfox> some package failed when setting up ubuntu... is it normal?
[06:13] <dannyu502_> Can someone please help me by telling em how to fix this: Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build;  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[06:13] <dannyu502_> me*
[06:13] <Thewarmachine> you need to estract kernel source
[06:13] <dannyu502_> how
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> and make symbolic lnks
[06:14] <IcemanV9> awesome; f-spot is made for gnome desktop
[06:14] <crimsun> dannyu502_: you need to install 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[06:14] <dannyu502_> crimsum, how do I do that
[06:14] <crimsun> dannyu502_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:14] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: if you are compiling a driver,  do  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> iceman where can I get the source for 0.1.0
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> >
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> because I can't get it off the webpage
[06:14] <IcemanV9> Thewarmachine: http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: heh - or what crimsun said (same result)
[06:15] <goldenfox> how much time does it take to install ubuntu?
[06:15] <dannyu502_> crimsum, toreauputic lol ok which 1
[06:15] <ksmurf> volvo?
[06:15] <ksmurf> volvoguy?
[06:15] <IcemanV9> hmm. error page
[06:15] <volvoguy> ksmurf, my card is now unsupported in the current drive (which is the one in universe), so i can't speak on that. i occasionally try to build the latest driver (for my card) from Nvidia and it's only worked once.
[06:15] <f_newton> nope it just doesnt work.
[06:15] <DanusMcAnus> goldenfox: 20min for me
[06:15] <f_newton> tsk
[06:15] <alie> ok wait
[06:15] <f_newton> and this is such a nice distro too
[06:15] <alie> what file you are making a link to ?
[06:15] <goldenfox> oh
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: either - aptitude is a better choice probably :)
[06:15] <supernix> when will they have the SATA issue resolved ?
[06:15] <alie> f_newton, what file you are making link to ?
[06:16] <TheGnome> ubuntu rules
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> yeah iceman this sucks
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> ubuntu does rule
[06:16] <goldenfox> TheGnome: I'm a KDE user
[06:16] <f_newton> alie, what are you trying to say?
[06:16] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, did you try the source
[06:16] <IcemanV9> Thewarmachine: i got "connection failure error"
[06:16] <alie> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> the source for what
[06:16] <f_newton> ubuntu is a linux distro kids its not a king it doesnt rule squat and you should not worship it
[06:16] <TheGnome> goldenfox, yeah thats cool...... i like kde too
[06:16] <IcemanV9> guess trw is better day to try it again :/
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> iceman i got the same error
[06:17] <alie> f_newton, this file should be linked as a symbolic link
[06:17] <TheGnome> f_newton, shut up
[06:17] <TheGnome> f_newton, i worship as i like
[06:17] <f_newton> childish
[06:17] <TheGnome> f_newton, i worship debian actually....
[06:17] <Thewarmachine> f-newton stop trolling
[06:17] <goldenfox> f_newton: are you a fedora user?
[06:17] <f_newton> excuse me? accusing me of trolling?
[06:17] <Thewarmachine> probably
[06:17] <alie> f_newton, it is simple to configure and what you dont know then you dont say on that but no one worship it
[06:17] <Thewarmachine> *thewarmachine sniggers*
[06:18] <alie> f_newton, once you know you will like it
[06:18] <dannyu502_> thoreauputic, crimsun, I recieve this message: root@ubuntu:/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2# apt-get install linux-headers-$(2.6.10-5-686)     bash: 2.6.10-5-686: command not found
[06:18] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic can I have one!?!?
[06:18] <alie> f_newton, you are linux user be patient ;)
[06:18] <volvoguy> ksmurf, you can't really hurt anything by trying. if it fails, just edit your xorg.conf file really quick and restart x. i kinda wouldn't expect it to work personally, considering the current state of breezy.
[06:18] <TheGnome> oh the n00b f_newton is pissed
[06:18] <Thewarmachine> lol thegnome
[06:18] <f_newton> alie ive probably been using linux longer then youve been alive
[06:18] <ksmurf> Kay I'll try
[06:18] <Angel-SL> :/
[06:18] <crimsun> dannyu502_: no, don't put 2.6.10-5-686 inside $()
[06:18] <Angel-SL> I git the LIVE cd
[06:18] <Thewarmachine> then f-newton don't be such an elitist pig
[06:18] <Angel-SL> just
[06:18] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)   (literally)
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> look whos l337
[06:19] <volvoguy> ksmurf, let us know how it goes. :)
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:19] <Angel-SL> IT DOENT boot!
[06:19] <dannyu502_> oooooo lol
[06:19] <f_newton> you children are impossible
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> I AM YOUR GOD
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> MUAHAHAH
[06:19] <f_newton> and you Thewarmachine are offensive and rude
[06:19] <TheGnome> f_newton, you old men are impossible .......... look at how you are acting
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> But for the good of the channel lets stay on topic
[06:20] <TheGnome> yes ....on topic please
[06:20] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, it doesn't boot at all, or does it boot and fail at some point?
[06:20] <thoreauputic> guys, ----> /j #flamewars
[06:20] <f_newton> ah whats the matter kids? you want to poke but yer too afraid to get poked?
[06:20] <f_newton> yep debianites all right
[06:20] <TheGnome> f_newton, how about this..........your gonna die way before me.........LOL
[06:20] <Thewarmachine> LOL
[06:21] <f_newton> yes but I lived a life
[06:21] <iiiears> larts all
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> a miserable one
[06:21] <crimsun> this is digressing into off-topic flaming. Keep the discussion apropos to Ubuntu support issues.
[06:21] <TheGnome> yeah but i have one still to live
[06:21] <f_newton> I didnt pretend one in front of a crt
[06:21] <TheGnome> neither do i
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> you jealous?1
[06:21] <f_newton> not of dweebs no
[06:21] <crimsun> f_newton: / Thewarmachine: / TheGnome: that means all of you.
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> ok as I was saying
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> crimsun I wasnt trying to
[06:22] <Thewarmachine> read my earlier messages
[06:22] <crimsun> feel free to flame away in #ubuntu-offtopic, but keep this channel on-topic.
[06:22] <f_newton> is there a room where I can get relevant answers to my problems or must I just take it somewhere else?
[06:22] <Thewarmachine> I dont want to lol
[06:22] <alie> how to configure xfce as my default desktop ?
[06:22] <iiiears> ahem - please add to the helpful converstion here. - crimsun (a channel op) just offered a friendly reminder
[06:22] <crimsun> alie: sudo aptitude install xfce4
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> what do you need f_newton
[06:23] <alie> i just did apt-get xfce
[06:23] <crimsun> alie: then just choose Xfce from the GDM Session menu
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> perhaps I can be of some help
[06:23] <alie> oh ok
[06:23] <crimsun> alie: no, not 'xfce'. You need 'xfce4'.
[06:23] <TheGnome> i dont understand why people who use winblows are nice and linux users are dicks
[06:23] <volvoguy> f_newton, what's your question again. i missed it.
[06:23] <alie> what is aptitude ?
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> thegnome.... so long as im a foot long .....
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:23] <TheGnome> i ask a question in here sometimes and all i get are retarded dick head answers
[06:23] <alie> crimsun, what is aptitude
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> same here the gnome
[06:23] <crimsun> alie: aptitude is an application that manages packages.
[06:23] <f_newton> I have said I cant get java to work... I installed the bin, ran the symlink and it simply wont work.
[06:24] <alie> crimsun, thanks for the help
[06:24] <iiiears> linux users are often sleep deprived getting their box to work "just right" - lol
[06:24] <TheGnome> f_newton, in firefox
[06:24] <TheGnome> f_newton, ?
[06:24] <crimsun> f_newton: I think you'll find the package 'java-package', which is in multiverse, to be of use.
[06:24] <f_newton> the hoary extras repo is dead so I cant use the synaptic way
[06:24] <^thehatsrule^> hmm... lol i always use apt-get etc... whats teh diff btwn aptitude and the others?
[06:24] <Thewarmachine> one of them is
[06:24] <killahkosha> Err wow, haven't burned a cd in a long time, for burning the install iso should it be disc-at-once or track-at-once?
[06:24] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: it says Boot from CD: and i press ENTER but it boots into the hdd instead
[06:24] <f_newton> crimsun I have to build it?
[06:24] <Thewarmachine> but the mirrormax one is intact
[06:24] <crimsun> ^thehatsrule^: aptitude tends to be more intelligent regarding dependencies and recommendations.
[06:25] <crimsun> f_newton: java-package takes care of generating a deb from the rpm or tgz that you download.
[06:25] <iiiears> aptitude is a bit smarter at getting all the packages you need
[06:25] <^thehatsrule^> hm, just wondering, would synaptic be using aptitude then?
[06:25] <volvoguy> f_newton, i think i used the instructions on the wiki. the version hasn't changed significantly since that was written has it?
[06:25] <amonkey> i'm trying to install gst-jpeg2000 for gaim-vv and i keep getting qpaintdevice errors. anyone kow what that is?
[06:25] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, Hoary or Breezy?
[06:25] <Angel-SL> 5.**
[06:25] <TheGnome> f_newton, ive been using linux a whole 3 months and have java working flawless.........mr..."ive been using linux before you were born"
[06:25] <Angel-SL> eh
[06:25] <f_newton> I used the standard installation of the bin and creating a symlink
[06:25] <Angel-SL> the hedgehog
[06:26] <f_newton> I could alien -d a rpm if that would work
[06:26] <Thewarmachine> or alien -d -i
[06:26] <budluva> can anyone suggest a good sfv checker?
[06:26] <f_newton> TheGnome, i have java working in redhat, mdk, suse etc
[06:27] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, so you get the splash screen, hit enter, and it goes straight into whatever you have on your hdd?
[06:27] <TheGnome> f_newton, yeah the pussy distro's
[06:27] <budluva> i know of a good windows sfv checker, but none for linux
[06:27] <crimsun> budluva: cfv
[06:27] <iiiears> md5sum?
[06:27] <f_newton> TheGnome, be careful who you fk withy\
[06:27] <volvoguy> TheGnome, dude. chill.
[06:27] <budluva> crimsun, thanks
[06:27] <crimsun> budluva: or more generally, apt-cache search sfv
[06:27] <crimsun> budluva: (or aptitude search sfv)
[06:27] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: it just sayd Boot From CD: i hit enter and it boots into windows which is in my hdd
[06:27] <TheGnome> f_newton, are you threatening me?
[06:27] <PurpleMotion> i have java working just fine in ubuntu
[06:28] <PurpleMotion> just follow the wiki
[06:28] <Gatton> goodnight ubuntu worshippers
[06:28] <Thewarmachine> thegnome: i think I smell a challenge.....
[06:28] <thoreauputic> TheGnome: just drop it - it's tedious and distracting
[06:28] <Gatton> and you too f_newton ;)
[06:28] <PurpleMotion> are you two actually going to get into an online penis waving contest? i mean comeon people.. how old are we here?
[06:28] <garyc> read the stuff at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba  still can't share my printer
[06:28] <TheGnome> ok bitch to me becuase i get threatened
[06:28] <killahkosha> Yeah my printer is totally lacking Linux support, blah
[06:28] <f_newton> ya know... aww forget it.  its not worth the trouble of dealing with you pinhead
[06:28] <Thewarmachine> purplemotion: you would too if yours was as large as mine
[06:28] <iiiears> TheGnome - Relax, - get a cold drink and don't worry. easy to be ignored here difficult to be booted.
[06:28] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:29] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: hello?
[06:29] <Thewarmachine> i apologize
[06:29] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, i have to say i've never seen that happen before. it'll take someone smarter than me to troubleshoot that.
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> Thewarmachine:  your sister isnt complaining ;)
[06:29] <Thewarmachine> shes dead thanks
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> that always sucks when it backfires on you
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> my bad
[06:29] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: i think something is wrong with the burn.
[06:29] <garyc> I have samba and shared folders - printer is installed  but can't figure out how to share printer
[06:29] <iiiears> the ignore button is worn shiny - doh!
[06:29] <Angel-SL> i used RAW
[06:29] <Thewarmachine> its ok
[06:29] <Angel-SL> not TAO or whatever is there
[06:30] <Angel-SL> i have 2 machines now
[06:30] <Angel-SL> 3rd one is debian
[06:30] <crimsun> Angel-SL: (I burn isos using DAO)
[06:30] <TheGnome> ok sorry guys.........but it seems like you guys are a little pissy
[06:30] <PurpleMotion> i always answer with "I don't have a sister, just a feminine brother, you fscking qu...." welly ou get the idea
[06:30] <garyc> share printer on a windows network?????
[06:30] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, what are you using to burn it? i use nero at 4x speed (as slow as it'll go) and DAO (disc at once). burn speed seems to really effect the final disc for some reason.
[06:30] <ksmurf> !nvidia breezy
[06:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ksmurf
[06:31] <ksmurf> !breezy
[06:31] <ubotu> somebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:31] <Angel-SL> i use 40x, k3b (i use linux to do stuff
[06:31] <Angel-SL> )
[06:31] <PurpleMotion> volvoguy:  for some reason? it should be pretty obvious.. the slower the burn speed, the more time the laser gets to spend burning in each bit...
[06:31] <volvoguy> ksmurf, no nvidia love i take it?
[06:31] <garyc> share printer on a windows network?????  -  got to be a command sudo smb??????
[06:31] <PurpleMotion> the faster you burn, the 'lighter' an impression it makes
[06:31] <ksmurf> vovlvoguy no nvidia love
[06:31] <^thehatsrule^> garyc: you have to config it first afaik
[06:31] <ksmurf> :<
[06:31] <Angel-SL> well
[06:31] <Angel-SL> speed i used is auto
[06:31] <volvoguy> PurpleMotion, well yeah, there's that. ubuntu seems to be more picky than other things though.
[06:32] <Angel-SL> so k3b takes 40x out
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> volvoguy:  here, here
[06:32] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, very untrue
[06:32] <garyc> thehatsrule:  how
[06:32] <iiiears> garyc - did the ubuntuguide.org  page help?
[06:32] <garyc> no
[06:32] <Thewarmachine> psp is based on bsd!?!?!
[06:32] <Angel-SL> :o
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  very true. i promise. and it's stright fromt he guys at plextor :) they use it as a selling point that their lasers produce MORE power the faster you burn to provide a consistent burn quality across different speeds
[06:33] <garyc> I read it all  no help
[06:33] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, i haven't used k3b yet, but i've burned iso's with gnomebaker at 4x that have worked ok.
[06:33] <ksmurf> volvoguy now for my next trick the n00b tries and install the nvidia driver.  time to be pwned by my computer.
[06:33] <Angel-SL> but the guys at #Debian recommended k3b
[06:33] <garyc> samba claims to be a file and print server
[06:33] <PurpleMotion> This is my kung-fu, and it is strong.
[06:33] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, yeah cuz they want you to buy there stuff...lol you sucker
[06:34] <ksmurf> TheGnome was it you compiling the nvidia kernal yesterday?
[06:34] <^thehatsrule^> garyc: well ive used it... but i used lineighborhood as a gui to conf mine
[06:34] <volvoguy> ksmurf, it's pretty straightforward. just run the installer and edit xorg.conf. you may want to uninstall the breezy universe version first though.
[06:34] <killahkosha> ok, looking all around in the installer, how do i resize ntfs partition?
[06:34] <goldenfox> how can i change the screen res of my ubuntu?
[06:34] <IcemanV9> k3b (kde app) and gnomebaker (gnome app) - both work just fine on my box
[06:34] <iiiears> garyc - samba is what you need. - it works the samba config can be confusing. - thank god for people posting examples.
[06:34] <TheGnome> ksmurf, naw....i have an ati
[06:35] <ksmurf> volvo I will unistall the uni version right away......
[06:35] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, im A+ certified
[06:35] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, i know
[06:35] <ksmurf> TheGnome want a sapre 9600XT?
[06:35] <ksmurf> spare
[06:35] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  actually there are demographics and thousands of lab hours of r&d from virtually every underlying optical media company that back plextor's claim 110%. What plextor doesnt mention is that only three or four of the intermediate level burner makers DONT use the very same technology.. although, plextor did invent the technology
[06:35] <HrdwrBoB> wow, A+
[06:35] <garyc> I need an examole right now
[06:35] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, k3b should work just fine. my only suggestion would be to try a slower burn.
[06:35] <HrdwrBoB> garyc: of what?
[06:36] <volvoguy> ksmurf, volvoguy want a spare 9600XT. :D
[06:36] <garyc> It should be a menu selection  -  I thought
[06:36] <TheGnome> HrdwrBoB, that among alot of others
[06:36] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  and that cert is supposed to mean jack shit? dude I have fifteen years REAL WORLD on the job working experience int his field, dont even try to challenge me on standards and hardware specifics. I'll take on an A+ certified tech IN MY SLEEP
[06:36] <TheGnome> HrdwrBoB, including linux
[06:36] <HrdwrBoB> TheGnome: I'm not certified in a damn thing
[06:36] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  which linux cert?
[06:36] <garyc> hrdwrbob I am trying to share my printer
[06:36] <HrdwrBoB> garyc: with?
[06:36] <HrdwrBoB> a windows machine?
[06:36] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, redhat at the moment] 
[06:36] <bimberi> killahkosha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[06:37] <garyc> windows network
[06:37] <HrdwrBoB> ok
[06:37] <HrdwrBoB> yes, you want samba
[06:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, want to get more
[06:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, cuz i dont like rpm
[06:37] <HrdwrBoB> garyc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[06:38] <PurpleMotion> yah, im gonna get my lpic-2 in a few months, then i may actually go for my CCSIE
[06:38] <TheGnome> HrdwrBoB, yeah the A+ exam is really easy.....you would pass no prob i bet
[06:38] <Alakala> Guys guys, fighting over the internet is like running in the "special" olympics. Even if you win, your STILL retarded. (So don't argue. ;))
[06:38] <PurpleMotion> yeah, A+ is a joke
[06:38] <TheGnome> HrdwrBoB, stupid questions like how many pins does a ps/2 mouse have
[06:38] <garyc> HrdwrBoB: I have samba folder share is seen by xp and 98 machines
[06:38] <PurpleMotion> but I'm right about the burners.. I read all those whitesheets and mttf reports
[06:38] <iiiears> lol
[06:39] <garyc> HrdwrBoB: I donl't see how to share the printer
[06:39] <PurpleMotion> but i control the urges
[06:39] <Thewarmachine> hahah
[06:39] <PurpleMotion> so its all good
[06:39] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, yeah but you need a quality burner.......not like plextor
[06:39] <Thewarmachine> if purplemotion is insane what am I
[06:39] <PurpleMotion> but some of the shit that runs through my head, i KNOW i have to be crazy
[06:39] <Angel-SL> sighs
[06:39] <Angel-SL> i unplugged the hddd
[06:39] <Thewarmachine> thegnoe what do you suggest
[06:39] <Angel-SL> but still WONT boooot
[06:40] <DukGalNamu> firefox seems to crash everytime i try to log out of yahoo, anyone have this before?
[06:40] <Thewarmachine> dude ive got 1
[06:40] <Thewarmachine> 06
[06:40] <fr500> has anyone installed kguitar in ubuntu?
[06:40] <Thewarmachine> and it works fine
[06:41] <Thewarmachine> dukgalnamu try getting rid of your cache
[06:41] <TheGnome> umm ........... believe it or not.....sony makes really good one
[06:41] <Thewarmachine> what you think of philips?
[06:41] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  dude, plextor has always been one of the very best optical drive manufacturers... theyve consistently won consumers choice awards year after year, they maintain one of the all time highest mean-time-to-failure standards (some models sporting over 800,000 hours), and were the company who pioneered the 'output power based on burn speed' technology
[06:41] <PurpleMotion> yeah, sony is #1
[06:41] <PurpleMotion> they always have been
[06:41] <garyc> how do I share linux printer on a windows network?????
[06:41] <garyc> I ahve samba
[06:41] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, read reviews..........i had a plextor and the thing blew....but it could just have been that one
[06:42] <TheGnome> garyc, did you add a new printer
[06:42] <cyphase> hey everyone
[06:42] <alie> i have downloaded ubuntu cd for x86 does it contain kde ? in it ?
[06:42] <garyc> yes the printer is in
[06:42] <Thewarmachine> cyphase greetings
[06:42] <PurpleMotion> garyc:  ont he windows machine where you're trying to map the printer, use your linux box's ip address instead of name
[06:42] <crimsun> alie: you can install 'kubuntu-desktop'.
[06:42] <TheGnome> garyc, did you type the servers ip address
[06:42] <alie> crimsun, from where ? from the cd ?
[06:42] <PurpleMotion> alie:  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <DukGalNamu> Thewarmachine: still does it
[06:42] <crimsun> alie: from the Internet.
[06:43] <Thewarmachine> thats odd
[06:43] <alie> crimsun, my internet is very slow
[06:43] <garyc> Oh no I browsed fo the printer and did not find it
[06:43] <alie> crimsun, i can use only xchat :d
[06:43] <crimsun> alie: there is also a Kubuntu ISO.
[06:43] <alie> crimsun, oh ok
[06:43] <alie> crimsun, so i download later
[06:43] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  yah, every company has their QC issues, and plextors is always hit or miss... but one thing ive always applauded about them is their return policy is exemplory(sp?) especially when you just want to exchange products
[06:43] <DukGalNamu> Thewarmachine: i tried updating it too
[06:43] <alie> crimsun, thanks
[06:43] <PurpleMotion> they dont even make you pay shipping
[06:43] <Thewarmachine> i dunno man
[06:43] <ksmurf> K anyone want to hold my hand through the nvidia driver compile?
[06:44] <alie> PurpleMotion, thanks too ;)
[06:44] <dabar> hi
[06:44] <ksmurf> hello
[06:44] <PurpleMotion> hai dabar
[06:44] <dabar> hows things goign here?
[06:44] <PurpleMotion> ssdd dabar
[06:44] <Thewarmachine> we almost started a flame war
[06:44] <ksmurf> a liitle to the left
[06:44] <DukGalNamu> firefox seems to crash everytime i try to log out of yahoo, anyone have this before?
[06:45] <DukGalNamu> else
[06:45] <DukGalNamu> that is
[06:45] <Thewarmachine> had a similar problem
[06:45] <Thewarmachine> but it was due to a destructive java api
[06:45] <DukGalNamu> that could be it...
[06:45] <Angel-SL> haha baking CD
[06:45] <DukGalNamu> i have run alot of java stuff
[06:45] <ksmurf> what is the easiest way to kill xsever?
[06:45] <Thewarmachine> well run somesort of antivirus
[06:46] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:46] <Thewarmachine> i use fprot
[06:46] <DukGalNamu> Thewarmachine: umm, is there an antivirus for ubuntu?
[06:46] <Thewarmachine> and searched for any malware and that popped up
[06:46] <DukGalNamu> why don't i just uninstall completely firefox
[06:46] <DukGalNamu> and reinstall it
[06:46] <Thewarmachine> go for it
[06:46] <dabar> not just friends...
[06:46] <DukGalNamu> save my bookmarks or something
[06:46] <Thewarmachine> i dunno tho
[06:47] <Thewarmachine> im almost sure its the java thing
[06:47] <SimonVallore> Hello
[06:47] <SimonVallore> could i get help
[06:47] <SimonVallore> im trying to install a game called americas army
[06:47] <TheGnome> AA is cool
[06:47] <SimonVallore> yeah
[06:47] <Angel-SL> POOoOo
[06:47] <Angel-SL> GnomeBaker KEEPS FAILING!
[06:47] <SimonVallore> but how do i install it on ubuntu
[06:48] <Thewarmachine> angel your write speed is too high
[06:48] <TheGnome> ./thenameoffile.run
[06:48] <Angel-SL> no it wont start wringing
[06:48] <TheGnome> Gnomebaker sucks
[06:48] <Thewarmachine> i use graveman
[06:48] <Angel-SL> bl;
[06:48] <DukGalNamu> Thewarmachine: is there some sort of way i can get firefox to give me more command line feedback
[06:48] <DukGalNamu> ?
[06:48] <Angel-SL> I WILL ASKM PFRRMF NRUKMJCFKURKDFJITUKDMIR
[06:48] <thoreauputic> Angel-SL: you can try graveman instead - some people prefer it
[06:48] <SimonVallore> where do i need to put the file for ./thenameoffile.run
[06:48] <IcemanV9> SimonVallore: check the wiki page on AA - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy
[06:48] <Thewarmachine> i dunno if there is a debug mode....
[06:49] <DukGalNamu> hey thoreauputic!
[06:49] <dabar> Is that a war game?
[06:49] <anthony> hello,  anyone can help ? new ubunta installation ,Internet downloads start at 6 kb /sec thenslows down to 1 kb / sec. Can I speed it up? Dial up service.56 k, Is this suitable for ubunta or any linux stuff?
[06:49] <dabar> ubuntu
[06:49] <Thewarmachine> anthony broaband is the way to go
[06:49] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: is there some sort of verbose setting for firefox, casue it keeps crashing even after a reinstall
[06:49] <anthony> cool thanks
[06:50] <Thewarmachine> n
[06:50] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: I don't know - is this the firefox from backports?
[06:50] <Thewarmachine> np
[06:50] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, i kinda hate to say it but i seem to always fall into the "just works" category - including gnomebaker, so i can't really help troubleshoot. can you just use k3b at a slower speed?
[06:50] <FunnyLookinHat> I just installed ubuntu on my ibm T43 and after it went through everything and was about to show the login screen, all  I have is a blank screen... if I hit enter a few times it makes the little bump bump bump noise, so I know it's at the login prompt... but it's not showing it.  It did the same thing with liveCD...  any ideas?
[06:50] <DukGalNamu> i don't think so
[06:50] <Thewarmachine> i really think graveman is the way to go
[06:51] <IcemanV9> FunnyLookinHat: breezy??
[06:51] <goldenfox> any idea guys how to change the screen res in gnome?
[06:51] <dirty> Thewarmachine: can graveman handle iso?
[06:51] <FunnyLookinHat> IcemanV9: ????
[06:51] <mrquick> anyone awake?
[06:51] <dirty> goldenfox it may be a xorg issue
[06:51] <mrquick> oh good
[06:51] <IcemanV9> hoary or breezy?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: what does  dpkg -l firefox say ? (it should say it can't find it)
[06:51] <zovirl> so, it looks like the ubunto boost packages don't come with the program_options library.  Anyone know why?
[06:51] <anthony> Any speed below 3 kb / sec is not an option
[06:51] <goldenfox> xorg issue?
[06:52] <Thewarmachine> i dont know actually
[06:52] <goldenfox> dirty: xorg issue? whats that?
[06:52] <volvoguy> if all else fails you could just try cdrecord, but i've never had the need to use it.
[06:52] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: yup saus it can't find it
[06:52] <killahkosha> Ok, phew, installed.
[06:52] <dirty> goldenfox: try system>preferences>screen resolution first
[06:52] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: OK so it probably isn't from backports...
[06:52] <IcemanV9> FunnyLookinHat: i've tried breezy to test on 2nd box .. came up with a blank screen (same as yours)
[06:52] <dirty> goldenfox: if that doesnt work ill help you with xorg
[06:52] <PurpleMotion> if you use k3b, trust me, youve used cdrecord
[06:52] <bimberi> killahkosha: good to hear :)
[06:52] <killahkosha> Eww...grub is really really ugly
[06:53] <Thewarmachine> it works
[06:53] <killahkosha> lilo on mandrake used to always look all pretty like :)
[06:53] <PurpleMotion> yeah it is i still use lilo
[06:53] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: try doing  sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox, then reinstall it
[06:53] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: Thewarmachine seems to think its a java app
[06:53] <FunnyLookinHat> IcemanV9: So how could that help me?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: very possible
[06:53] <goldenfox> dirty: didnt work... only shows 640x480. I cant see 800x600 or higher
[06:53] <dirty> goldenfox: poor resolution could be due to drivers
[06:53] <IcemanV9> FunnyLookinHat: use hoary, not breezy
[06:53] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic I had the same problem
[06:53] <mrquick> I got wierd issue, I have a realtek 8139 card, and for some strane reason the kernel is loading the 8139too and the 8139cp modules, they seem to not be working well together either as I can't get any net activity, my question is, since neither module is in /etc/modules, how do I keep one of them from being autoloaded?
[06:53] <dirty> goldenfox: what sort of video card are you using?
[06:53] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: where are the bookmarks so that i can save them
[06:53] <FunnyLookinHat> IcemanV9: I am using Hoary.
[06:53] <FunnyLookinHat> I tried both liveCD and now hoary... neither worked.
[06:54] <PurpleMotion> wow thats a good question
[06:54] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: ~/,mozilla/firefox  (somewher in there - an html file)
[06:54] <thoreauputic> *somewhere
[06:54] <Thewarmachine> mrquich thats in the ubuntuguide i think
[06:54] <PurpleMotion> i dont think /etc/modules is where you wanna look
 well, i followed the direction on the ubuntu forums about mapping special key codes and they made it so i couldnt logon, i had to go to rescue mode and undo everything, id like to set my multimedia codes but the directions were crappy if there are better directions out there that actually work
[06:54] <PurpleMotion> ill check
[06:54] <goldenfox> dirty: geforce2
[06:54] <crimsun> if anyone has suggestions for glick_, please message him privately.
[06:54] <PurpleMotion> Thewarmachine:  please dont recommend the guide :) everything there is available ont he wiki
[06:54] <mrquick> Thewarmachine, is that on the ubuntu website?
[06:54] <Thewarmachine> nah
[06:54] <goldenfox> dirty: InnoVision TNT2 64MB
[06:54] <PurpleMotion> !ubuntuguide
[06:54] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[06:55] <dirty> goldenfox: im new to ubunbtu, i also have a nvidia card. let me check to see what drivers are used be default
[06:55] <goldenfox> dirty: okay
[06:55] <PurpleMotion> i like the ubuntuguide, but its not n00b friendly at all
[06:55] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:56] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  im with you, but i can really understand where they're coming from
[06:56] <ATI_RAGE_> Howdy Everyone
[06:56] <crimsun> there's nothing wrong with recommending ubuntuguide as long as you provide a disclaimer that it lacks explanation for consequences.
[06:56] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguide is fine for people who understand what they are doing
[06:56] <goldenfox> any hardcore ubuntu users here?
[06:56] <iiiears> emacs or ubuntuguide. - oops thats emacs or vi got confused.
[06:56] <mrquick> I've been using debian for years, frankly ubuntu is so easy it's hard sometimes :-P
[06:56] <TheGnome> goldenfox, it all i use
[06:56] <bimberi> it's also someone's genuine attempt to produce something that helps people
[06:56] <TheGnome> goldenfox, besides debian on my old pc
[06:56] <D-N-A> ubuntu download server is dropped
[06:56] <D-N-A> :|
[06:56] <goldenfox> nah
[06:57] <goldenfox> i just downloading updates now
[06:57] <Thewarmachine> what do you folks think of f-prot
[06:57] <Thewarmachine> ?
[06:57] <goldenfox> Thewarmachine: im using f-prot and its cool
[06:57] <Thewarmachine> then you should perhaps check out xfprot
[06:57] <D-N-A> i downloaded the iso after 60% it doesn't connect
[06:57] <dirty> goldenfox: i imagine xorg is using the nv driver
[06:57] <thoreauputic> crimsun: I know who made that factoid, and I think it should be reworded, but I suspect changing it is pointless since it would get changed back...
[06:57] <Thewarmachine> ts a great gui
[06:58] <IceDC571> i just noticed.. the sound quality of alsa is so much better than on creative drivers in windows.. how the hell is this possible? :)
[06:58] <dave_> Can anyone help me?
[06:58] <goldenfox> dirty: xorg?
[06:58] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  i changed the w32codecs factoid today ;)
[06:58] <dirty> goldenfox: you need to use the "nvidia" for better resolutions
[06:58] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, i now have your background image as my wallpaper
[06:58] <dabar> iiiears: nice, is that a jab at Razor-X?
[06:58] <Thewarmachine> lol thegnome
[06:58] <PurpleMotion> !w32codecs
[06:58] <dirty> goldenfox: xorg, is what gnome uses
[06:58] <PurpleMotion> but now it msgs you with it
[06:58] <iiiears> lol - hm.. could be.. - grin
[06:58] <SimonVallore> guys how do i allow accesss to a file through chmod
[06:58] <dave_> I just recently installed ubuntu and I currently have no sound can anyone help me with this?
[06:58] <bimberi> !+w32codecs
[06:58] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was set of codecs needed to play common audio/video formats (wmv etc). You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).  AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 See: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats for legal issues concerning w32codecs
[06:58] <SimonVallore> and ive read the guide but dont understand
[06:58] <goldenfox> dirty: where can i change that?
[06:58] <SimonVallore> guys how do i allow accesss to a file through chmod
[06:58] <crimsun> dave_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:59] <PurpleMotion> glad someone knows how to work that friggen bot
[06:59] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: yeah, it's too long so ubotu sends it to /msg
[06:59] <PurpleMotion> oh
[06:59] <thoreauputic> hmm - ah no he doesn't  !
[06:59] <SimonVallore> guys how do i allow accesss to a file through chmod
[06:59] <IceDC571> i havent been here for weeks, i see a lot of new people
[06:59] <iiiears> w32codecs factoid is much too helpful and not obsucure and obfuscated like a linux instruction.
[06:59] <bimberi> PurpleMotion: yes the "+" will keep it in the channel (use with care tho)
[06:59] <thoreauputic> bimberi: does the + suppress /msg ?
[06:59] <dirty> goldenfox: you need to modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <TheGnome> w32codecs are a must have
[07:00] <thoreauputic> oops too slow :)
[07:00] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  more like overrides it i think
[07:00] <dirty> goldenfox: but first you need to insure you have the nvidia driver
[07:00] <Thewarmachine> what is a really fast dvd ripper
[07:00] <bimberi> :)
[07:00] <SimonVallore> hello
[07:00] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, dvdrip
[07:00] <SimonVallore> will some one help me
[07:00] <dabar> SimonVallore: what file?
[07:00] <crimsun> SimonVallore: your question is unclear
[07:00] <IceDC571> dvdrip is like the only answer for a gui dvd ripper these days
[07:00] <SimonVallore> how do i chmod a file to allow full access
[07:00] <Thewarmachine> how do I rip the whole disk at once
[07:00] <dabar> man chmod will help you, yes.
[07:00] <SimonVallore> a file on my desktop
[07:00] <PurpleMotion> IceDC571:  that should tell you something
[07:00] <dabar> tell us about the file.
[07:01] <SimonVallore> its americas army game
[07:01] <IceDC571> i used to have a cli encoder that worked so well at decryption, too bad i have such a stupid memory and cant remember what i used
[07:01] <fr500> SimonVallore, sudo chmod 777 file_name
[07:01] <Thewarmachine> thoggen?
[07:01] <PurpleMotion> if it's on his desktop, nobody is going to be able to get to it to view it regardless of its permissions
[07:01] <dabar> ok, did you chmod +x filename it?
[07:01] <fr500> SimonVallore, but be careful
[07:01] <PurpleMotion> he has to chmod its parent directory
[07:01] <dabar> altho I hate to help someopne play a war game...
[07:01] <SimonVallore> why what will happen
[07:01] <PurpleMotion> or rather the directory it resides in
[07:01] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, hey ..........thoggen is pretty good too
[07:01] <Thewarmachine> is it?
[07:02] <fr500> SimonVallore, be careful on what files u use that
[07:02] <goldenfox> dirty: ok. i will try
[07:02] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, it only rips to ogg though
[07:02] <fr500> use it only for personal files
[07:02] <SimonVallore> thank you so much man
[07:02] <PurpleMotion> 777 is dangerous
[07:02] <dabar> SimonVallore: man chmod will also tell you.
[07:02] <SimonVallore> why
[07:02] <IceDC571> do you any of you think i should switch to ext3 from reiserfs?
[07:02] <PurpleMotion> that gives _world_ readability to your file
[07:02] <Thewarmachine> I laugh in the face of danger
[07:02] <PurpleMotion> if its ont he desktop, do this
[07:02] <IceDC571> wow i cant type today
[07:02] <dabar> not readability, deleteability, and such.
[07:03] <PurpleMotion> right click the file, select properties, then select permissions
[07:03] <PurpleMotion> you can set it world-readable but not world-writable for example
[07:03] <Thewarmachine> im not thewarmachine for nothing you know
[07:03] <SimonVallore> why is 777 dangerous
[07:03] <dirty> goldenfox, let me test to see if the base system has the nvidia driver before you change it
[07:03] <dirty> goldenfox: ill be back in a few minutes
[07:03] <Thewarmachine> I love bluetooth vulnerability
[07:03] <Thewarmachine> ;p;
[07:03] <SimonVallore> and whats a good firewall for ubuntu
[07:03] <mrquick> does anyone know specifically how one goes about blacklistin modules in hotplug?
[07:03] <goldenfox> dirty: okay
[07:03] <PurpleMotion> because it makes the file readable, writable, and executable by everyone
[07:03] <IceDC571> SimonVallore, um.. firestarter + iptables
[07:03] <Thewarmachine> iptables
[07:04] <SimonVallore> it doesnt apt get i tried
[07:04] <SimonVallore> i tried to get fire starter
[07:04] <IceDC571> doesnt iptables come default?
[07:04] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: still doesn't work
[07:04] <iiiears> SimonVallore - right click on any file and use the gui to set permissions. - it shows the changing chmod numbers. - neat eh?
[07:04] <Thewarmachine> yup i think so
[07:04] <killahkosha> uhhh...wow...no clue what is going on, just did my first bootup of ubuntu and it was going through all of the stuff with installing the deb's and whatnot, and then it got to where it said starting gdm, then all of a sudden my screen became filled with like a tye-dye pattern, what should I do?
[07:04] <shaun_> goldenfox: it doesnt
[07:05] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: do you have a yahoo account?
[07:05] <DukGalNamu> does anyone have a yahoo account?
[07:05] <PurpleMotion> define a tye dye pattern
[07:05] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: well, the problem is more likely to be a plugin or extension I think
[07:05] <PurpleMotion> i have yahoo
[07:05] <SimonVallore> guys how do i get firestarter
[07:05] <PurpleMotion> why?
[07:05] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: no, no Yahoo account
[07:05] <Thewarmachine> i do dukgalnamu
[07:05] <SimonVallore> aptget doesnt work for getting it
[07:05] <IceDC571> well the easiest method is to post their Xorg crash log
[07:05] <DukGalNamu> PurpleMotion: try logging out with firefox
[07:05] <mrquick> killah, you should hit ctrl+alt+f1 and run the xorgconfig program manually
[07:06] <PurpleMotion> just did it
[07:06] <PurpleMotion> what was supposed to happen?
[07:06] <Thewarmachine> get fprot
[07:06] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: it's in universe, and you only need it if you run services/ servers really
[07:06] <SimonVallore> does an y one know how i can get firestarter
[07:06] <Thewarmachine> and the frontend xfprot
[07:06] <PurpleMotion> SimonVallore:  apt-get install firestarter
[07:06] <TheGnome> anybody use anything other than xchat and konversation?
[07:06] <TheGnome> anybody use anything other than xchat and konversation?
[07:06] <TheGnome> oops
[07:06] <SimonVallore> but i dont wanna get rooted
[07:06] <PurpleMotion> (twisted firestarter)
[07:06] <SimonVallore> or hacked
[07:06] <Thewarmachine> thegnome gaim
[07:06] <SimonVallore> like with windows
[07:06] <goldenfox> Im using xchat
[07:06] <mrquick> TheGnome, I sometimes use gaim
[07:06] <PurpleMotion> yeah gaim is a nice irc prog actually
[07:06] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, that does irc?
[07:07] <mrquick> yup
[07:07] <Thewarmachine> yeah
[07:07] <PurpleMotion> i love bagns
[07:07] <IceDC571> PurpleMotion, are you really Computer__Guru?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: ubuntu ships with all ports "closed" (ie not listening)
[07:07] <TheGnome> wow
[07:07] <Thewarmachine> ive got 1.05
[07:07] <iiiears> add "universe communitty supported" to your repositories then apt-get firestarter or synaptic search and apply.
[07:07] <PurpleMotion> IceDC571:  on yahoo, yeah
[07:07] <Thewarmachine> 1.50
[07:07] <IceDC571> actually i thought i saw that name used here too
[07:07] <Thewarmachine> i compile most of my progs myself
[07:07] <PurpleMotion> yeah you did
[07:07] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: a firewall only helps if something is listening on the internet interface
[07:07] <PurpleMotion> .o(01:07:41): -NickServ-   Last Seen Address: ~jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com
[07:08] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic, so what do we do if tha isnt the case
[07:08] <SimonVallore> ohh
[07:08] <SimonVallore> so im like safe
[07:08] <TheGnom1> hah
[07:08] <TheGnom1> im two people
[07:08] <IceDC571> anyone using rhythmbox 0.9? i want to know whats new but they were too lazy to write up a changelog... lame
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Thewarmachine: if you are running a server of some kind, then yes, a firewall is indicated
[07:08] <TheGnome> thats cool
[07:08] <dabar> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf. However, it can not ping the Li
[07:08] <Thewarmachine> i have the firewall gig
[07:09] <Thewarmachine> i use nessus too
[07:09] <TheGnom1> hmm.....i kinda like gaim
[07:09] <PurpleMotion> yeah
[07:09] <IceDC571> they need to update it to 1.50...
[07:09] <Thewarmachine> and i was thinking of snort
[07:09] <PurpleMotion> \its nice
[07:09] <Thewarmachine> i have 1.50
[07:09] <killahkosha> default su password == ?
[07:09] <dirty> goldenfox: you need to system>administration>synaptic package manager
[07:09] <IceDC571> Thewarmachine, i love compiling :)
[07:09] <dirty> goldenfox: and then search for nvidia
[07:09] <Computer__Guru> <-- PurpleMotion
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> on gaim
[07:10] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: if you start running a webserver, or ssh or ftp etc, then you need a firewall - otherwise don't worry
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> gaim -v:
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> Gaim 1.4.0
[07:10] <Thewarmachine> apt-get build-dep gaim
[07:10] <goldenfox> dirty: ok
[07:10] <Thewarmachine> then compile away
[07:10] <Thewarmachine> I love it
[07:10] <TheGnom1> sweet
[07:10] <TheGnom1> wait
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> Thewarmachine: do you have bangexec?
[07:10] <Thewarmachine> gaim -v
[07:10] <TheGnome> there we go
[07:10] <IceDC571> i think its strange how gaim wont display the version number until you sign in, in the gui that is
[07:10] <Thewarmachine> ?
[07:10] <dirty> goldenfox: tell me once you have the package
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> !command
[07:10] <TheGnome> yeah gaim is wicked cool
[07:10] <ubotu> Computer__Guru: Not a clue
[07:10] <Computer__Guru> example
[07:11] <Computer__Guru> cat /proc/version:
[07:11] <Computer__Guru> Linux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 2005
[07:11] <Computer__Guru> that was the result of !cat /proc/version
[07:11] <IceDC571> i still want outside direct connect support in gaim
[07:11] <TheGnome> wait
[07:11] <TheGnome> i cant have multiple rooms in gaim?
[07:11] <goldenfox> dirty: there are 4 nvidia here.. what will i choose?
[07:11] <Computer__Guru> there's !command to /say the results, !!command to echo them locally, and !!!command to send !command to the channel
[07:11] <Computer__Guru> TheGnome: sure
[07:12] <TheGnome> how?
[07:12] <Computer__Guru> TheGnome: /join #Room1,#Room2
[07:12] <IceDC571> does the /server -m command work in gaim?
[07:12] <Thewarmachine> !command gaim -v
[07:12] <ubotu> Thewarmachine: I haven't a clue
[07:12] <Computer__Guru> or when it asks for your room, type #Room1,#Room2
[07:12] <TheGnome> Hey thanks
[07:12] <Computer__Guru> it's just !gaim -v
[07:12] <Computer__Guru> gaim -v:
[07:12] <Computer__Guru> Gaim 1.4.0
[07:12] <Computer__Guru> if you havent compiled bangexec then you dont have it
[07:12] <IceDC571> why are you typing gaim -v all the time?.. im confused lol
[07:12] <TheGnome> how do i tell which gaim version i have?
[07:13] <Thewarmachine> ohhh
[07:13] <IceDC571> gaim -v in the command line
[07:13] <Computer__Guru> IceDC571: I was illustrating a point
[07:13] <Thewarmachine> !!!command gaim -v
[07:13] <ubotu> Thewarmachine: I don't know
[07:13] <IceDC571> gaim -v
[07:13] <Computer__Guru> hahah
[07:13] <Computer__Guru> you gys
[07:13] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:13] <Thewarmachine> wtf
[07:13] <Computer__Guru> if you dont have bangexec plugin compiled for gaim
[07:13] <Computer__Guru> it wont work
[07:13] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:13] <TheGnome> gaim -v
[07:13] <Thewarmachine> i know
[07:13] <IceDC571> yeah i think they were hoping this channel would tell them what version of gaim they have
[07:13] <TheGnome> in term
[07:14] <thoreauputic>    /exec -o gaim -v
[07:14] <TheGnome> 1.4.0
[07:14] <SimonVallore> does an y one know how i can get firestarter
[07:14] <dirty> goldenfox: give me a second im reading some docs in the wiki
[07:14] <thoreauputic> ?exec -o gaim -v
[07:14] <TheGnome> is that the latest
[07:14] <thoreauputic> hahah
[07:14] <idleminds> !!synaptic
[07:14] <ubotu> idleminds: Syntax error in line 1
[07:14] <dirty> goldenfox: we might not need those
[07:14] <killahkosha> how i kill xorg?
[07:14] <sn0n> Gaim 1.1.4
[07:14] <sn0n> LoL
[07:14] <idleminds> !synaptic
[07:14] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:14] <IceDC571> well.. do it the stupid way, go to synaptic and search for gaim
[07:14] <sn0n> thats nice
[07:14] <killahkosha> or restart xorg
[07:14] <Computer__Guru> cat /rpoc/cpuinfo | grep -i name && cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i memtotal && uptime:
[07:14] <Computer__Guru> cat: /rpoc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory
[07:14] <Computer__Guru> durp
[07:14] <Thewarmachine> gaim -v
[07:14] <Thewarmachine> Gaim 1.5.0
[07:14] <TheGnome> 1.4.0 ........i compiled it
[07:14] <sn0n> roflao
[07:14] <sn0n> fuck
[07:14] <IceDC571> killahkosha, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[07:14] <goldenfox> dirty: thanks for the big help.. I'm downloading nVidia Drivers pal. :)
[07:14] <sn0n> now i have a new addiction
[07:14] <Thewarmachine> GET 1.5.0
[07:15] <sn0n> /exec
[07:15] <sn0n> lol
[07:15] <Computer__Guru> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i name && cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i memtotal && uptime:
[07:15] <Computer__Guru> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz
[07:15] <Computer__Guru> MemTotal:       386224 kB
[07:15] <Computer__Guru>  01:14:58 up 21:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.24, 0.14, 0.11
[07:15] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine: did it just come out?
[07:15] <Thewarmachine> a while ago
[07:15] <Thewarmachine> 1wk?
[07:15] <thoreauputic>  15:15:29 up 54 days, 23:33,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
[07:15] <Thewarmachine> i got it the day it came out
[07:15] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:15] <sn0n> fresh install thou
[07:16] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine: ok i compiled this like two weeks ago.........hold on
[07:16] <TheGnome> brb
[07:16] <IceDC571> Thewarmachine, reiser or ext3?
[07:16] <sn0n> Gaim 1.1.4
[07:16] <goldenfox> What if I dont have internet connection? And some drivers needs internet connection? oh boy...
[07:16] <sn0n> hrmmm
[07:16] <sn0n> weird
[07:16] <IceDC571> Gaim 0.6.1
[07:16] <Thewarmachine> icedc why?
[07:16] <IceDC571> Thewarmachine: i dont know... what are you using?
[07:17] <Thewarmachine> which comp we referring to?
[07:17] <Thewarmachine> this one is ext3
[07:17] <Thewarmachine> i think
[07:17] <IceDC571> okay thats neat
[07:17] <Thewarmachine> why?
[07:17] <IceDC571> i think reiser is causing problems for me
[07:17] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:17] <Thewarmachine> perhaps
[07:18] <Computer__Guru> damn, 49 updates
[07:18] <IceDC571> im using xfs on my external hard drive.. just because i like the name
[07:18] <Thewarmachine> god knows the other comp is weird
[07:18] <Computer__Guru> brb
[07:18] <dirty> goldenfox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:18] <Thewarmachine> f****** opteron
[07:18] <Thewarmachine> yeah baby
[07:18] <IceDC571> hahaha im using a sempron
[07:18] <IceDC571> like this is any better
[07:19] <Thewarmachine> ive melted my cpu so many times
[07:19] <SimonVallore> how do i find out wich version of x im on
[07:19] <dirty> goldenfox: i just modprobe nvidia and set nvidia in xorg instead of nv
[07:19] <Thewarmachine> ...
[07:19] <SimonVallore> how do i find out wich version of x im on
[07:19] <SimonVallore> how do i find out wich version of x im on
[07:19] <IceDC571> i went to fry's.. i hate that place.. and i was like can i get an athlon xp, they dont know what that is
[07:19] <goldenfox> dirty: thanks again
[07:19] <sn0n> anyone an avid RhythmBox user ?
[07:19] <Thewarmachine> im broke now
[07:19] <zerboxx> sn0n: I was
[07:19] <sn0n> i wanna set systemwide hotkeys to change songs.. how can i?
[07:19] <Thewarmachine> simon don't do that
[07:19] <IceDC571> sn0n: i would be once i find out what the changelog in 0.9 is
[07:19] <SimonVallore> i need to install video crivers
[07:19] <Thewarmachine> xorg -v?
[07:19] <IceDC571> sn0n: why do you ask?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: don't repeat - and the answer is   X -version
[07:20] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:20] <sn0n> like Ctrl + Shift + R = next song, or Ctrl + Shift + E = previous song
[07:20] <zerboxx> IceDC571: I know, I wonder why they don't state the changes
[07:20] <Thewarmachine> i stand corrected
[07:20] <Thewarmachine> whats a good media player other than rhythmbox
[07:20] <Thewarmachine> ?
[07:20] <sn0n> Muine is nice
[07:20] <IceDC571> The_Vox: muine
[07:20] <IceDC571> yeah
[07:20] <sn0n> Banshee
[07:20] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: note the upper case X
[07:20] <SimonVallore> ok
[07:20] <Thewarmachine> muine? what is?!
[07:21] <IceDC571> but one of the dependencies apt-get doesnt tell you about for muine is libdbus-cil
[07:21] <sn0n> also.. Sonance is nice
[07:21] <sn0n> but i can never get it working right
[07:21] <sn0n> but i LOVE the UI
[07:21] <IceDC571> if you're on kde.. amarok
[07:21] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: on hoary it would be 6.8.2 I think
[07:21] <Thewarmachine> kde?!
[07:21] <IceDC571> theres also beep media player
[07:21] <goldenfox> now my problem is the root
[07:21] <Computer__Guru> i like xmms :)
[07:21] <SimonVallore> HOW do i install .rpms
[07:21] <IceDC571> if you like winamp/xmms style
[07:21] <Thewarmachine> reminds me too much of windows
[07:21] <Computer__Guru> but im an old habits die hard type
[07:22] <Thewarmachine> ive got beep,xmms.
[07:22] <Computer__Guru> SimonVallore: ideally, you don't.
[07:22] <Thewarmachine> audacity for editing
[07:22] <SimonVallore> uh
[07:22] <Computer__Guru> SimonVallore: i always try to convert them to deb's first
[07:22] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: you don't usually - I think you are using the wrong package
[07:22] <SimonVallore> but my video drivers are in rpm format
[07:22] <Computer__Guru> oh god.. must be nvidia
[07:22] <TheGnome> ok
[07:22] <SimonVallore> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[07:22] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: which drivers? nvidia? ati?
[07:22] <TheGnome> now i have 1.5.0
[07:22] <Thewarmachine> xfce4 and enlightenment  dr17
[07:22] <SimonVallore> nope radeon
[07:22] <Computer__Guru> oh ati
[07:22] <TheGnome> WOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:22] <thoreauputic> !ati
[07:23] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:23] <TheGnome> xfce4 is cool
[07:23] <Thewarmachine> w00t!
[07:23] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: ^^^^
[07:23] <iiiears> SimonVallore, - search until you are sure it isn't available. - then alien -d -i ,yourpackage>
[07:23] <Computer__Guru> SimonVallore: get the package independant one at the top, and it contains an option to build a package :)
[07:23] <TheGnome> yeah dude........gaim irc looks great
[07:23] <Thewarmachine> rpm.pbone.net
[07:23] <iiiears> rpm conversion is hit or miss
[07:23] <Thewarmachine> try it with the tenebrific sys theme
[07:23] <TheGnome> :-D smilies and everything
[07:23] <sn0n> http://sonance.aaronbock.net/
[07:23] <Thewarmachine> :-D8-)
[07:24] <sn0n> the screenshots
[07:24] <sn0n> http://sonance.aaronbock.net/screenshots/shots/0.2.1/01_Main_Player_Window.png
[07:24] <sn0n> its PERFECTLY what im looking for
[07:24] <Thewarmachine> it reminds me of rhythmbox
[07:24] <sn0n> but the UI has changed in the more recent versions
[07:24] <Computer__Guru> glxinfo | grep direct:
[07:24] <Computer__Guru> direct rendering: Yes
[07:24] <sn0n> sonance is mono
[07:24] <ethan_> hi again
[07:24] <TheGnome> i cant believe how good gaim irc looks
[07:25] <Thewarmachine> its sleek
[07:25] <SimonVallore> linux is so cumbersome
[07:25] <Thewarmachine> shut up
[07:25] <Thewarmachine> you can't be so negative
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> it is?
[07:25] <TheGnome> cumbersome?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> never noticed..
[07:25] <TheGnome> no
[07:25] <IceDC571> TheGnome: you dare me to try gaim irc?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> compared to the crud i have to do with windows on a regular basis.
[07:25] <sn0n> TheGnome, its broken thou.. LoL
[07:25] <TheGnome> linux........imo is way better
[07:25] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: only until you get used to it - then it becomes powerful and easy
[07:25] <Computer__Guru> sonance is pretty
[07:26] <Thewarmachine> really work at it or you will be consumed by gates
[07:26] <Computer__Guru> what formats does it support?
[07:26] <TheGnome> sn0n: how so?
[07:26] <Computer__Guru> and will it play shoutcast stuff?
[07:26] <ethan_> TheGnome,
[07:26] <SimonVallore> ok i installed that deal now what
[07:26] <ethan_> lol
[07:26] <Thewarmachine> man i think i like kde the least right now
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> i use xmms at the soutcast.com site I think all the time.
[07:26] <sn0n> its just... weirdly.. implemented
[07:26] <ethan_> TheGnome,   I have concluded that I believe it is my hard drive.
[07:26] <TheGnome> ethan_: what?
[07:26] <Computer__Guru> SimonVallore: did you do as it said for hoary?
[07:26] <ethan_> hello
[07:26] <sn0n> Thewarmachine, go gnome  :-D
[07:26] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:26] <Computer__Guru> I love kde
[07:26] <SimonVallore> i did what you said to to
[07:26] <TheGnome> ethan_: ahh yeah thats what i think
[07:26] <killahkosha> Ok, so I booted up in "recovery mode" and I finally got to the console where I typed in "xorgconfig" to which in reply i  get "command not ofund"
[07:26] <Computer__Guru> SimonVallore: did you see the wiki?
[07:27] <Thewarmachine> man i like the gdesklets thing
[07:27] <thoreauputic> SimonVallore: read the bot's URL
[07:27] <Computer__Guru> SimonVallore: watch ubotu
[07:27] <goldenfox> is there any default password for root? i can't login with root
[07:27] <thoreauputic> !ati
[07:27] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:27] <Computer__Guru> ati:
[07:27] <Computer__Guru> sh: ati: command not found
[07:27] <Computer__Guru> err
[07:27] <Computer__Guru> yeah what ubotu said
[07:27] <Doonz> glftpd users around?
[07:27] <Thewarmachine> ive got this rss newsreader thing thats totally kickass
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> i got the ati drivers working in about 5 min. under ubuntu.  following that guide.
[07:28] <Thewarmachine> ive got bbc world, wired slashdot
[07:28] <SimonVallore> ok
[07:28] <Thewarmachine> all at the same time
[07:28] <SimonVallore> it says ill need to restart
[07:28] <Computer__Guru> i installed the latest and greatest from ati and also had no problems
[07:28] <Computer__Guru> yes, you will
[07:28] <Thewarmachine> I detest macs
[07:28] <IceDC571> Computer__Guru: does sonance support some type of gapless playback?
[07:28] <Computer__Guru> osx is nice
[07:28] <Thewarmachine> bsd is nice
[07:29] <Computer__Guru> i have no clue.. iw as just asking what all it supports
[07:29] <Thewarmachine> mac is the interface
[07:29] <goldenfox> i cant login with root. anybody knows if there's a default pass? i think ubuntu did not prompt me to set password to root
[07:29] <SimonVallore> brb guys
[07:29] <SimonVallore> gonna reboot
[07:29] <thoreauputic> !root
[07:29] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> goldenfox,  its the users password.
[07:29] <skalpel> does ssh support resumed downloads?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> goldenfox: ^^^
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> and you DONT login straight to root.
[07:29] <killahkosha> god
[07:29] <killahkosha> this ubuntu sucks right now
[07:29] <iiiears> ubotu nvidia is also quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:29] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[07:29] <killahkosha> i guess i'll reboot for the 50th time and see if that helps
[07:29] <Thewarmachine> shit if this sucks try slackware!
[07:30] <Thewarmachine> i like slackware
[07:30] <goldenfox> Dr_Willis: what do you mean users? i have one user and it is ok. but when i try to login as root, i can get through
[07:30] <killahkosha> heh, if this goes on i'll just go back to using windows, god at least it works
[07:30] <thoreauputic> killahkosha: this isn't windows - rebooting rarely helps
[07:30] <Thewarmachine> HATE MANDRAKE AND MANDRIVA
[07:30] <Prowl3r> I think Ubuntu takes a bit of time to get used to
[07:30] <Prowl3r> But it is very well done
[07:30] <killahkosha> Well at least with other distro's after you install them, they just work
[07:30] <Thewarmachine> linux takes time to get used t
[07:30] <killahkosha> no errors and crap
[07:30] <TheGnome> sn0n: how is it broken?
[07:30] <killahkosha> Yes, I've used Linux for years, bleh
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> goldenfox,  the ONE user is the one allowed to 'sudo' - you do NOT login to 'root' directly from the LOGIN: prompt.. check the faq.
[07:31] <killahkosha> but then I heard about how great ubuntu is supposed to be
[07:31] <Thewarmachine> killahkoshka where you from?
[07:31] <killahkosha> kent, wa
[07:31] <Thewarmachine> no ethnically speaking
[07:31] <bimberi> killahkosha: are you still in recovery mode?
[07:31] <killahkosha> noah, not anymore
[07:31] <killahkosha> Now I rebooted and went into the normal mode
[07:31] <killahkosha> and my screen flickered a few times trying to start X
[07:31] <killahkosha> and now this message came up
[07:32] <Thewarmachine> killa where (ethnically) are you from
[07:32] <Thewarmachine> ?
[07:32] <Computer__Guru> brb
[07:32] <PurpleMotion> okay im back
[07:32] <PurpleMotion> wanted to log off of irc via gaim
[07:32] <iiiears> thor - where is au? - oops only kidding round
[07:32] <Thewarmachine> in america you are american lol
[07:32] <killahkosha> I am half Jewish and half German...
[07:32] <Thewarmachine> ah
[07:32] <skalpel> does ssh support resumed downloads?
[07:33] <killahkosha> "I cannot start the X server.....on and on....Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"  So I try to hit enter and nothing happens, I wonder why nothing happens to I press left and right and nothing happens
[07:33] <killahkosha> So now what?
[07:33] <volvoguy> i'm from Oakland Township, Oakland County, State of Michigan, United States of America. how's that? :)
[07:33] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic what about you?
[07:33] <Thewarmachine> where you from?
[07:33] <Thewarmachine> lol volvoguy
[07:33] <TheGnome> ok
[07:33] <Thewarmachine> im from the bronx new york
[07:33] <sn0n> TheGnome, it just dont seem to work
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Thewarmachine: Australia
[07:33] <TheGnome> sn0n: works great here
[07:34] <sn0n> TheGnome, wont install for one, and when i got it too.. it crashed alot
[07:34] <MrPockets> eyy,  how does one direct connect to an AIM user via Gaim?
[07:34] <Thewarmachine> i have a house in melbourne
[07:34] <SimonVallore> Hello
[07:34] <Thewarmachine> i want to move there
[07:34] <SimonVallore> now americas army wont work
[07:34] <bimberi> killahkosha: <ctrl><alt>F1
[07:34] <TheGnome> is the new AA out?    2.4?
[07:35] <iiiears> SimonVallore, - more details. how is it broken?
[07:35] <killahkosha> ctrl+alt+f1 does nothing
[07:35] <Thewarmachine> betcha im the only one in the bronx who uses linux!
[07:35] <bimberi> killahkosha: <ctrl><alt>F2 ?
[07:35] <SimonVallore> no but im haveing trouble starting it it splashes the picture and then the pictures goes away
[07:35] <killahkosha> bimberi, ctrl+alt+f2 does nothing
[07:35] <bimberi> killahkosha: no login prompt?
[07:36] <SimonVallore> how do i uninstall it ?
[07:36] <SimonVallore> then reinstalll
[07:36] <Thewarmachine> what do you guys think of the israelis pulling out of gaza?
[07:36] <killahkosha> nope, no login prompt
[07:36] <iiiears> SimonVallore, - just curious. - does glxgears typed in a console give you good numbers?
[07:36] <killahkosha> its just stuck at this
[07:36] <killahkosha> frozen
[07:36] <SimonVallore> whats good numbers
[07:36] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine: your from the bronx?
[07:37] <Thewarmachine> yessir!
[07:37] <iiiears> 1,000+  fps
[07:37] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine: ive been there
[07:37] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:37] <bimberi> killahkosha: hm - not good - what about <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[07:37] <Thewarmachine> hated it didntcha?
[07:37] <SimonVallore> its going up hoold on
[07:37] <Thewarmachine> i wouldnt change it for the world
[07:37] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine: i was there too little of time
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:38] <SimonVallore> 361 fps
[07:38] <iiiears> heh
[07:38] <killahkosha> wow, ctrl+alt+backspace is a weird one, it like, kinda changed what the screen looked like, made the red selector status go over to No
[07:38] <Thewarmachine> mind you im 6'4 and have a beard
[07:38] <killahkosha> I tried pressing it again though and it did nothing
[07:38] <Thewarmachine> did I mention im whie lol
[07:38] <SimonVallore> any one know how i can fix my aa
[07:38] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic: lol
[07:38] <bimberi> killahkosha: ok - now try  <ctrl><alt>F1 again
[07:38] <killahkosha> nothing
[07:39] <iiiears> SimonVallore, - guessing you need to enable acceleration for your video card (fairly new? )
[07:39] <bimberi> grr
[07:39] <killahkosha> well i mean it did nothing
[07:39] <Thewarmachine> man this dvorak shit sux
[07:39] <SimonVallore> yeah its fairly new
[07:39] <SimonVallore> radeon 9000 series
[07:39] <SimonVallore> how do i do t hat ?
[07:39] <iiiears> SimonVallore, what type of card.
[07:39] <bimberi> i know
[07:39] <IceDC571> im going to try irc in gaim
[07:39] <sn0n> Thewarmachine, you gotta dvorak keyboard ?
[07:39] <Thewarmachine> yeah
[07:39] <sn0n> how is it?
[07:39] <SimonVallore> radeon 9000 series
[07:39] <Thewarmachine> it takes some getting used to
[07:40] <sn0n> i was debating getting one
[07:40] <Madpilot> !ati
[07:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:40] <iiiears> SimonVallore, - arghh i only know nvidia. - ubotu has a link
[07:40] <sn0n> or making my own from a old keyboard
[07:40] <iiiears> !ati
[07:40] <Thewarmachine> and it was a bitch to get working
[07:40] <killahkosha> Well I suppose i will reboot again and go into recovery mode again
[07:40] <bimberi> killahkosha: bear with me - i'm booting another box into recovery mode (in the meantime if anyone else has ideas... )
[07:40] <TheGnome> thoreauputic: no way.......................!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:40] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[07:40] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic irssi is your choice?
[07:41] <sn0n> i prefer x-chat
[07:41] <bimberi> killahkosha: you might as well
[07:41] <TheGnome> xchat is cool
[07:41] <thoreauputic> Thewarmachine: ou of X, irssi - in X I use xchat mostly
[07:41] <TheGnome> but gaim
[07:41] <IceDC571> wow.. gaim irc does look pretty, but it still feels like im chatting in a small message box
[07:41] <TheGnome> wooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo
[07:41] <Thewarmachine> ice fullscreen it
[07:41] <MrPockets> IceDC571 i feel like its too big :-X
[07:41] <iiiears> gaim isn't very flexible.
[07:42] <Thewarmachine> iiiears it isnt?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> gaim is indded limited for IRC
[07:42] <Thewarmachine> do it like firefox and plugin
[07:42] <MrPockets> you can interface gaim with IRC?
[07:42] <TheGnome> does what i need it to
[07:42] <sn0n> firefox and plugin?
[07:42] <IceDC571> wonderful.. now all my message boxes are stretched out too
[07:42] <iiiears> yep gaim irc
[07:42] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:42] <thoreauputic> MrPockets: yes you can
[07:42] <IceDC571> im switching back to x-chat lol
[07:42] <skalpel> can someone tell me what this error means? gproftpd:
[07:42] <skalpel> Package gproftpd has no available version, but exists in the database.
[07:42] <skalpel> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list
[07:42] <Thewarmachine> ice that shouldnt happen
[07:43] <SimonVallore> ohh great
[07:43] <MrPockets> well ill be a stick in a tad pole race...
[07:43] <MrPockets> i learn something from you fellas every day
[07:43] <thoreauputic> skalpel: most likely your sources are wrong
[07:43] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:43] <SimonVallore> i now have fucking ati cdrivers installed on a fucking viatech chipset
[07:43] <Thewarmachine> watch it simon
[07:43] <SimonVallore> how do i fix it
[07:43] <skalpel> thoreauputic: what should i do, compare my list against someone else?
[07:44] <thoreauputic> !source
[07:44] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, thoreauputic
[07:44] <Thewarmachine> atleast your compter dosn think its vanilla debian
[07:44] <thoreauputic> haha
[07:44] <iiiears> ouch
[07:44] <thoreauputic> !sources
[07:44] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:44] <thoreauputic> skalpel: the second URL might help
[07:44] <SimonVallore> how do i uninstall drivers
[07:44] <Thewarmachine> the great thing about linux is that it is in Albanian
[07:44] <bimberi> killahkosha: once you're in recovery mode "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:44] <skalpel> thoreauputic: where is souces.list storeD?
[07:45] <killahkosha> ok in recovery mode I booted it up, typed "sudo startx", and so it popped up really quickly but went back to the console, the error it shows "(EE) xf86openserial: cannot open device /dev/mouse no such file or directory."
[07:45] <killahkosha> ok
[07:45] <Thewarmachine> and you have no Idea the difficulty of the language
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Thewarmachine: really? I wondered why I couldn't understand it...
[07:45] <thoreauputic> *g*
[07:45] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:45] <prestonc> anyone know how to do a search for wireless acess points under ubuntu?
[07:45] <killahkosha> one second, let me reboot again, frozen again
[07:45] <thoreauputic> skalpel: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <bimberi> killahkosha: you'll be asked lots of questions, read carefully, but the defaults are usually pretty good
[07:45] <killahkosha> is this going to launch up the xorgconfig again?
[07:45] <Thewarmachine> are most of you at least 6' tall?
[07:45] <Thewarmachine> 1.8 m?
[07:45] <iiiears> SimonV - let me apologize if i misunderstood. - thought you said ati 9000 card.
[07:46] <bimberi> killahkosha: yes (but not using that actual command)
[07:46] <Madpilot> Thewarmachine: is that some sort of requirement to use Ubuntu that I missed? ;)  (I'm 5'11"...)
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Thewarmachine: I used to be before I started using Linux - the weight of learning it shrunk me to 5' 7"
[07:46] <Thewarmachine> absolutely!
[07:47] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:47] <Thewarmachine> i fried my brain with solaris
[07:47] <Thewarmachine> GRRR
[07:47] <Thewarmachine> im a damn giant man
[07:47] <windex> i save my brain frying sessions for work with windows 2k3.
[07:47] <killahkosha> err, 128mb in kilobytes, i know it isn't 128,000 exactly, what is it?
[07:47] <windex> the linuxes and unixes of the world are the easy part.
[07:47] <Madpilot> windex: much more efficient - at least you get paid to fry your brain...
[07:47] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:47] <windex> Madpilot, exactally.
[07:48] <_frank> 128*1024 kilobytes
[07:48] <Thewarmachine> windex whats harder?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> !128**2
[07:48] <ubotu> 16384
[07:48] <thoreauputic> hmm wrong
[07:48] <bimberi> killahkosha: 131072
[07:48] <TheGnome> !128
[07:48] <Thewarmachine> !128*1024
[07:48] <ubotu> TheGnome: Not a clue
[07:48] <ubotu> 131072
[07:48] <Madpilot> !128*2
[07:48] <ubotu> 256
[07:48] <thoreauputic> that's it
[07:48] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:48] <killahkosha> :) thanks
[07:48] <bimberi> :)
[07:49] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: you had two ** thingies in there
[07:49] <killahkosha> frame buffer or no?
[07:49] <windex> Thewarmachine, honestly? linux gives more descriptive errors, and better troubleshooting interfaces. windows 2k3, good luck troubleshooting why your machine hard locks on login.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: yeah I know
[07:49] <Tarcastil> hey, I'm trying to replace a package I used apt-get for with a package I built. Is there a good packaging guide to help me out?
[07:49] <prestonc> anyone know how to do a search for wireless acess points under ubuntu? I'm trying to decide between Ubuntu and CentOS and right now this is the deciding factor. The first time I installed ubuntu it just found my AP I setup. I thought that was handy for like hotspots and stuff, but I can't reproduce it.
[07:49] <skalpel> thoreauputic: i changed my sources.list and reloaded, but i still get this error: gproftpd:
[07:49] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:49] <skalpel> Package gproftpd has no available version, but exists in the database.
[07:49] <skalpel> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list
[07:50] <Thewarmachine> solaris is like homemade alcohol
[07:50] <thoreauputic> !info  gproftpd
[07:50] <IceDC571> wait who is Computer__Guru now?
[07:50] <Thewarmachine> when thrown in the face it burns the eyes
[07:50] <thoreauputic> skalpel: no such package I'm afraid
[07:50] <TheGnome> anyone here try opensolaris
[07:50] <Thewarmachine> yup
[07:50] <thoreauputic> skalpel: sorry i should have checked before telling you your sources were wrong
[07:51] <windex> Thewarmachine, solaris is easier than windows to troubleshoot.
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> kinda
[07:51] <Madpilot> Thewarmachine: and when drunk it kills brain cells wholesale?
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> yeah
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> man im toasted totally
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> lol
[07:51] <windex> Thewarmachine, it's just a diffrent platform and you have to know its internals
[07:51] <skalpel> thoreauputic: it is okay, i figured it was worth a try. odd though. i have used gproftpd before
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> its a miracle
[07:51] <skalpel> thoreauputic: i had it installed on this computer
[07:51] <TheGnome> is solaris good?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> skalpel: try  apt-cache search proftpd
[07:51] <killahkosha> Err, ok, I am at the mouse configuration. I have a standard usb optical mouse that is hooked up to my USB keyboard which has a USB hub built in, so how should I figure out which mouse port to select?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> skalpel: it might have a different package name
[07:52] <Thewarmachine> solaris is a carcnogen
[07:52] <skalpel> thoreauputic: same error. i think it had something to do with a faulty uninstall on my part
[07:52] <Thewarmachine> man its nearly 2am here
[07:52] <bimberi> killahkosha: try /dev/input/mice (this time)
[07:52] <Thewarmachine> i gotta go
[07:52] <Thewarmachine> and plot to take over the universe
[07:52] <Thewarmachine> take it easy folks
[07:54] <TheGnome> how do i figure out my routers ip........in irc
[07:55] <killahkosha> bimberi, "(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"
[07:55] <windex> TheGnome, you need the address you connect to IRC as?
[07:56] <TheGnome> windex: yeah
[07:56] <windex> TheGnome, /whois TheGnome
[07:56] <windex> TheGnome, it may show up in your server window.
[07:57] <TheGnome> 8-)
[07:57] <windex> TheGnome, your hostname is the part after the @
[07:57] <^Simon^> Hello
[07:57] <bimberi> killahkosha: hm - what's your video card?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> TheGnome:  24.128.148.122
[07:57] <^Simon^> How do i reconfigure x
[07:57] <TheGnome> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:58] <^Simon^> whats the command
[07:58] <killahkosha> Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
[07:58] <thoreauputic> ^Simon^:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:58] <TheGnome> thoreauputic: thank ou
[07:59] <thoreauputic> TheGnome: you're welcome :)
[07:59] <killahkosha> Wow, so I went through the whole thing again and this time said no to framebuffer enabling
[07:59] <killahkosha> now when i start x
[07:59] <killahkosha> I have a bunch of vertical green lines
[07:59] <killahkosha> and the background color is a white that turns into grey
[08:00] <bimberi> Wow indeed :|
[08:01] <Madpilot> killahkosha: does the vid card work with other OSes? that sounds like a damaged video card to me...
[08:01] <TheGnome> ok brb
[08:01] <skalpel> i get strange video distortion when starting X can someone help me?
[08:01] <TheGnome> ok
[08:01] <windex> thoreauputic, give a man a fish, feed him for a day. teach a man to fish...
[08:01] <killahkosha> Yep, my video card works great under Windows XP
[08:01] <TheGnome> xchat is better] 
[08:02] <thoreauputic> windex: quite right - and you gave him the right lesson before I handed him the fish :)
[08:03] <TheGnome> im sick of people saying..........but my stuff worked so good under Xp...........this is linux it is different
[08:03] <TheGnome> im sick of people saying..........but my stuff worked so good under Xp...........this is linux it is different
[08:03] <PurpleMotion> http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg
[08:03] <TheGnome> oops
[08:03] <TheGnome> oops
[08:03] <PurpleMotion> opinions, please
[08:03] <TheGnome> killahkosha, what vid card u got?
[08:03] <bimberi> killahkosha: bear with me ...
[08:04] <didjital> yo
[08:04] <killahkosha> Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
[08:04] <thoreauputic> ;)
[08:04] <windex> PurpleMotion, if only chrysler was cool enough to build that thing.
[08:04] <PurpleMotion> windex:  they did. and you can buy it for eight hundred thousand dollars
[08:04] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: is that six seperate desktops, or 3x twin monitor setups
[08:04] <PurpleMotion> six desktops
[08:05] <windex> PurpleMotion, they built one and auctioned the prototype didn't they?
[08:05] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: which WM? gnome currently (in hoary, anyway) doesn't support multiple wallpapers...
[08:05] <TheGnome> yeah gaim irc looks better....but xchat is more useable
[08:05] <PurpleMotion> windex:  yeah, but daimler said in a press release he'll build more for whoever wants one
[08:05] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  KDE, of course.
[08:06] <TheGnome> kde sucks
[08:06] <windex> PurpleMotion, heh. if only crysler was more respected. even ford is getting away with the GT40.
[08:06] <PurpleMotion> beats the hell out of gnome :)
[08:06] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: ah, ok. I really should try that Kubuntu liveCD I burned
[08:06] <bimberi> killahkosha: is the box connected to the internet?
[08:06] <PurpleMotion> windex:  you seent he dodge tomahawk?
[08:06] <killahkosha> bimberi, yep
[08:06] <killahkosha> bimberi, the internet is working afaik
[08:06] <skalpel> can someoen tell me why i would be unable to move folders or files to the trash?
[08:06] <bimberi> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:06] <windex> PurpleMotion, yes. too dangerous to ever make it to production. 4 wheel motorcycle? pushwah.
[08:06] <skalpel> they belong to a different user
[08:07] <bimberi> killahkosha: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:07] <Tribune> i just download ubuntu. my monitor 17" but resolution set during installation 640... how can i set it to 1024?
[08:07] <killahkosha> ok, let me restart again
[08:07] <Madpilot> !resolution
[08:07] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:07] <bimberi> k
[08:07] <Madpilot> Tribune: see ubotu above ^^^
[08:07] <PurpleMotion> windex:  they made and sold ten of them :D I love daimlers philosophy concerning concept cars... 1) Don't build it unless it's production quality from day one, and 2) that way, if someone decides they want one, we can say "Sure, we'll build it right now"
[08:08] <Tribune> ubotu?
[08:08] <TheGnome> lol
[08:08] <Tribune> where is it?
[08:08] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Tribune about resolution
[08:08] <TheGnome> anyone have any good screenshotd
[08:08] <TheGnome> anyone have any good screenshots
[08:08] <Madpilot> Tribune: look about two or three lines up from my comment
[08:09] <SimonVallore> AMericas army still isnot working
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> www.bigBustyBabes.com - Lots of  screenshots there.
[08:09] <Tribune> ok
[08:09] <Tribune> thanks
[08:09] <windex> PurpleMotion, again, that's great, but it's not sticking their neck out enough. if they offer a production version, even if only 100 are made, car magazines will review it. collectors will desire it. etc.
[08:09] <Madpilot> TheGnome: I think you've seen mine, but here you go: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/warbard.png
[08:09] <SimonVallore> can some one tell me how to reinstall my drivers
[08:09] <SimonVallore> can some one tell me how to reinstall my drivers
[08:09] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, actually if you look at the whole log people have been very unfair to me
[08:09] <Madpilot> SimonVallore: drivers for what?
[08:10] <SimonVallore> the ones some guy had me install and fucked my shit up
[08:10] <TheGnome> Madpilot, yes and i love it
[08:10] <TheGnome> Madpilot, what resolution do you use?
[08:10] <killahkosha> Ok, I suppose it is all installed that "nvidia-glx" package
[08:10] <PurpleMotion> I don't want to look at the log
[08:10] <SimonVallore> apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx these drivers
[08:10] <Madpilot> TheGnome: 1280x1024
[08:10] <PurpleMotion> but *I* have been nice to you, so leave me the hell alone
[08:11] <PurpleMotion> you dont want to get into it with me.
[08:11] <TheGnome> Madpilot, your bottom toolbar is bigger than your top.....right
[08:11] <Madpilot> TheGnome: it is a bit bigger, isn't it? hadn't actually noticed that...
[08:11] <bimberi> killahkosha: yes - now type "nvidia-glx-config enable" to enable it
[08:11] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  i like it.. VERY clean
[08:11] <SimonVallore> some one please help me
[08:11] <SimonVallore> can some one tell me how to reinstall my drivers
[08:12] <PurpleMotion> well
[08:12] <SimonVallore> i need to install via tech chipset drivers
[08:12] <Tribune> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom <-- after doing this process.... reply sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom: command not found
[08:12] <PurpleMotion> except the massive clutter on your top bar
[08:12] <PurpleMotion> :D
[08:12] <SimonVallore> can some one tell me how to reinstall my drivers
[08:12] <PurpleMotion> hey madpilot
[08:12] <SimonVallore> i need to install via tech chipset drivers
[08:12] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: that beats having icons covering the entire desktop! - and all the rest of the clutter is on one of the other five desktops
[08:12] <windex> SimonVallore, .. whooo the heck told you that xorg-driver-fglrx == via tech? i mean, i dont know how to tell you how to fix it (too new to ubuntu), but, that seems odd. just hang tight, i'm sure someone can help you.
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  get me a job up there in canada.. i hate living in the us anymore
[08:13] <the> can somone direct me to an irc noob roob...im a bit lost....
[08:13] <the> i do use ubuntu though
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> the,  google.com will have plenty of irc tutorials :P
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> the:  might as well stick here then
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> not sure if there are any Beginner type irc rooms on this network actually.
[08:14] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: you can always immigrate; we like immigrants. (they make good stew during the cold winters... ) ;)
[08:14] <alie> hi i have set the screen resolution to another dpi and when i am trying to login to xfce4 the Xserver is getting hanged ?
[08:14] <the> mm hmm
[08:14] <alie> which file i need to configure
[08:14] <alie> ?
[08:14] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  i think that would be called defecting on this side, and i'm 100% ready, but i want a job there first
[08:15] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: depends on your field - start writing letters and stuff!
[08:15] <PurpleMotion> yeah i think i will
[08:15] <TheGnome> Madpilot, yea whats up with ur top bar?
[08:15] <windex> bye kids
[08:15] <windex> im going to bed.
[08:15] <PurpleMotion> cause im done with this country and its perpetual fear machine
[08:15] <the> bye
[08:15] <Madpilot> TheGnome: lots of launchers, and lots of weather applets...
[08:15] <killahkosha> ok, I did the enable thing
[08:15] <killahkosha> so should i try to startx again?
[08:15] <TheGnome> Madpilot, slide them all over...........thats what i would od
[08:15] <mojo333> bah, sorry for noob question, but I need the command to delete the original ubuntu kernel in Hoary.  I have a custom one, but I cant seem to delete the old one :(
[08:15] <TheGnome> Madpilot, do
[08:16] <alie> hi hi have just set the dpi with my xfce4 and now the xserver is getting hanged ? what ist the solution
[08:16] <bimberi> killahkosha: yep - cross fingers first
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> mojo333,  you mean remove the entry from the grub boot menu?
[08:16] <alie> i tried to set my x11/xorg.conf file but that doesnt worked
[08:16] <the> now to figure out how to exit....
[08:16] <killahkosha> well it ssays nvidia
[08:16] <killahkosha> and now i see an arrow
[08:16] <killahkosha> and now it says ubuntu linux for human beings
[08:16] <Madpilot> TheGnome: the launchers are actually clustered in a way that makes sense to me, not just spread randomly!
[08:16] <killahkosha> :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
[08:16] <mojo333> i already removed the entry from grub, I need to get rid of the kernel now
[08:16] <killahkosha> thankyou so much
[08:16] <killahkosha> Wow, it is finally working :) :)
[08:17] <goldenfox> ubuntu installation did not ask for root password why?
[08:17] <TheGnome> Madpilot, yeah i saw that just after
[08:17] <bimberi> killahkosha: :) :) :)
[08:17] <Madpilot> !tell goldenfox about root
[08:17] <killahkosha> Now I will restart and do a normal bootup just to make sure everything works :)
[08:17] <mojo333> I have two kernels, 386 and custom
[08:17] <bimberi> killahkosha: k
[08:17] <Madpilot> killahkosha: if it worked once, it *should* work again - but good luck!
[08:17] <TheGnome> how do i recompile kernel to fit my system perfect?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> mojo333,  - why bother.  keep it as a backup/failsafe entry and kernel.
[08:18] <killahkosha> phew, well, at least now I know what to do if I ever have to reinstall for some reason :)
[08:18] <TheGnome> i need drugs
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> TheGnome,  use the --make_perfect  option
[08:19] <bimberi> killahkosha: there you go - a few steps up the (occasionally steep but rewarding) linux learning curve :)
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  hell of a nice site you got there
[08:19] <TheGnome> Dr_Willis, umm ........with what command
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  i have a friend very into miniatures, you'd like her
[08:19] <mojo333> Im not going to have to worry about applications trying to use anything in that kernel?
[08:19] <killahkosha> :) yeah, I've been using linux for quite a few years, but this is the first time in a couple of months, and the first time with my new nvidia video card :)
[08:20] <Ronan> How hard the installation for Ubuntu?
[08:20] <TheGnome> easy
[08:20] <TheGnome> very
[08:20] <PurpleMotion> incredibly difficult
[08:20] <DekaPink> I'm not impressed with my friend... She won't even so much as GLANCE at the Ubuntu live CD.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> TheGnome,  with the MakeSystemPerfect command.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:20] <Ronan> Ah, okay. Well, I'm going to install it. With me luck.
[08:20] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: thanks, the site is mostly in maintance now, but I've had fun building it over the years
[08:20] <PurpleMotion> people have been known to cut their wrists after trying to install ubuntu ;)
[08:20] <bimberi> PurpleMotion: lol (but silly)
[08:20] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: I don't think you're helping the cause, y'know... :)
[08:21] <PurpleMotion> nah, its one of the easiest, most straightforward installers ive ever seen
[08:21] <goldenfox> ah the sudo thing...
[08:21] <Tribune> ok
[08:21] <TheGnome> its not gui ......... but its very easy
[08:21] <Tribune> my monitor fixed
[08:21] <Madpilot> goldenfox: yeah, the sudo thing!
[08:21] <PurpleMotion> brb
[08:21] <Tribune> i can't mount my floppy and my Window HDD? Pls help
[08:22] <Whistler> hi
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Tribune,  theres several 'how to mount windows drives under linux' tutorials out. you simply edit your /etc/fstab file corectly
[08:22] <TheGnome> hello
[08:22] <iiiears> !winmac_fstab
[08:22] <ubotu> well, winmac_fstab is A script that facilitates easy mounting of NTFS/FAT (Windows) and HFS+ (Mac) hard drives and partitions. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[08:22] <PurpleMotion> im back
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> as for the floppy... well.. :P i dont have one any more
[08:22] <Whistler> anybody can reccomend and audio player other than xmms?
[08:23] <PurpleMotion> whats difficult about mounting hfs and ntfs?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Whistler,  thers several.. try them all/
[08:23] <Madpilot> floppies should automount - the twice I've used a floppy with Ubuntu, it just appeared when I shoved it in the drive
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> PurpleMotion,  notthing really
[08:23] <TheGnome> Whistler, rythmbox
[08:23] <iiiears> nothing after the first time
[08:23] <TheGnome> Whistler, it is the default player....and very good
[08:23] <Madpilot> Whistler: I like Muine for albums; Totem plays everything else including video
[08:24] <the> how do i leave here!!!???
[08:24] <Whistler> rythmbox isnt aviable via apt-get?
[08:24] <TheGnome> yeah totem-xine is great.....default sucks
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> the,   you useing xchat?
[08:24] <TheGnome> Whistler, it is installed by default
[08:24] <the> ya
[08:24] <Madpilot> Whistler: do you have the Universe repos enabled?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> notice the HELP menu entry? :P notice the close buttons?
[08:25] <iiiears> wb thorauputic
[08:25] <the> curses
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:26] <thoreauputic> iiiears: :)
[08:27] <Whistler> do you mean that i have rythmbox already installed?
[08:27] <TheGnome> Whistler, you do......if your using ubuntu
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Whistler: music player
[08:27] <Madpilot> Whistler: Applications menu - Sound & Video - Music Player
[08:27] <TheGnome> Rhythmbox
[08:28] <Whistler> oh
[08:28] <Whistler> :)
[08:28] <TheGnome> not rythmbox
[08:28] <iiiears> Whistler - want a shock? - surf on over to shoutcast.com and play one of their stations too. :)
[08:28] <thoreauputic> Whistler: at least it isn't called something linuxy like rbX  ;)
[08:28] <iiiears> hehe
[08:28] <Whistler> :)
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> RythemBox! (with a !)
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> :P seen that way too many times in windows.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> saw one program that had a (R) logo in the file name.. NO idea how they did that.
[08:30] <Whistler> oh yeah
[08:30] <TheGnome> i want to be a channel op
[08:30] <Whistler> music player is a lot better than xmms
[08:30] <Whistler> :)
[08:30] <iiiears> All windows programs older than 3 years but less than a decade must have "PRO" or "Enterprise" in the title.
[08:30] <TheGnome> Whistler, i like it
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> TheGnome,  type /join #IamLeet   and you will be.
[08:30] <TheGnome> no
[08:30] <TheGnome> im kidding
[08:31] <Whistler> thoreauputic its downloader for x
[08:31] <Whistler> download manager
[08:31] <TheGnome> HAH
[08:31] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: better give those scripts to Google!
[08:31] <thoreauputic> Whistler: ah, too easy :)
[08:31] <Whistler> :)
[08:31] <TheGnome> way to easy
[08:31] <TheGnome> how about this
[08:32] <TheGnome> k3b............lol
[08:32] <TheGnome> j/k
[08:32] <Whistler> lol
[08:32] <Whistler> :)
[08:32] <ElvenProgrammer> i reinstalled windows in my windows partition and now grub is gone, what to do (please don't kill me)
[08:32] <Madpilot> !lart ElvenProgrammer
[08:32] <iiiears> !recovergrub
[08:32] <ubotu> iiiears: Syntax error in line 1
[08:32] <TheGnome> ElvenProgrammer, yeah windows takes over the mbr
[08:32] <bimberi> !recover
[08:32] <ubotu> somebody said recover was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:32] <iiiears> !grub
[08:32] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:32] <Whistler> ElvenProgrammer i had this prob 3 days ago
[08:32] <thoreauputic> TheGnome: indeed,, it's really *obvious* that k3b is  a CD burner! (not)
[08:33] <Whistler> :)
[08:33] <TheGnome> huh
[08:33] <TheGnome> why does gnomeburner suck so much?
[08:33] <Whistler> i like gnome baker
[08:33] <Whistler> :P
[08:33] <TheGnome> no way
[08:34] <TheGnome> gnomebaker is no where near k3b
[08:34] <Razor-X> does screen automatically give you a bell if something on the window updates?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> TheGnome: try graveman - it's simple but nice
[08:34] <ElvenProgrammer> Whistler: is it hard to fix?
[08:34] <Razor-X> or does the application have to have an internal hook into screen?
[08:34] <TheGnome> can it burn vcd's and dvd's and iso's
[08:34] <Whistler> ElvenProgrammer nope
[08:34] <iiiears> Ubuntu installs a bunch of apps with wildly imaginative names  "bonobo" or "bicyclerepair"
[08:34] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: are you looking at what we're saying, or just typing?
[08:35] <ElvenProgrammer> i see i need a live cd
[08:35] <thoreauputic> TheGnome: k3b is definitely the best at the moment for versatility
[08:35] <TheGnome> he is just typing
[08:35] <Whistler> i used this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:35] <PurpleMotion> Razor-X:  up till you said that iw as just typing ;)
[08:35] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: meh :)
[08:35] <PurpleMotion> Razor-X:  you see my new desktop shots?
[08:35] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: nopes
[08:35] <Razor-X> I switched Terminal Emulators *gasp*
[08:35] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, show me!
[08:35] <PurpleMotion> Razor-X:  http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg
[08:35] <Razor-X> (which is my desktop, really)
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> Metro Goldwin Mayer presents
[08:36] <killahkosha> How can I add more resolutions to the choices that the Ubuntu screen resolution configuration shows?
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> The Wall
[08:36] <iiiears> !resolution
[08:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:36] <Whistler> killahkosha edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <iiiears> !display
[08:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[08:36] <Whistler> :)
[08:36] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, wow..........ok
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> killahkosha:  you can modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf's Screen section
[08:36] <killahkosha> All right, thanks
[08:36] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  something to be said for KDE, eh ;)
[08:37] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: putting proprietary disguises on GNU applications?! oh the blasphemy!
[08:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, uh no.......you made it look like gnome lol
[08:37] <PurpleMotion> what proprietary disguises?
[08:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, its cool
[08:37] <iiiears> lol@Razor-X
[08:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, just not my taste at all
[08:37] <PurpleMotion> it looks NOTHING like gnome.. hell its even the default kde icon set ;)
[08:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, but it is very sahrp
[08:37] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, sharp
[08:37] <bimberi> killahkosha: seems it still works after reboot :) (apart from resolution)
[08:38] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: Fireworks MX
[08:38] <PurpleMotion> Razor-X:  that _was_ fireworks mx
[08:38] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: there's a Linux version?
[08:38] <PurpleMotion> no
[08:38] <Razor-X> wine?
[08:38] <PurpleMotion> but it runs pretty well in cxoffice 4.1
[08:38] <Razor-X> *gasp*
[08:38] <Razor-X> you payed for that?! ewwww!!! :)
[08:38] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, i have to admit very cool
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> I paid for it years ago
[08:39] <Razor-X> nah, I like my desktop similar -- and cars don't interest me :)
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> and I challenge you to find ANY vector based graphics app that touches it.
[08:39] <Razor-X> my desktop is a big picture of Edward Elric
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> gnu/gpl or otherwise
[08:39] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, you can get cxoffice for free ya know
[08:39] <libanes_> i cant find cdrdao package
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  yeah, but i bought it :)
[08:39] <Razor-X> and my Terminal background is Vash
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  cdrtools
[08:39] <thoreauputic> !info cdrdao
[08:39] <TheGnome> yeah cars on a desktop mean that you have a very small penis
[08:39] <ubotu> cdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB
[08:39] <TheGnome> lol
[08:40] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: to quote TLLTS, Macromedia apps are ``like a black hole that sucks in your system resources, you can just feel the slowdown the moment you click on the icon''
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> oh yeah it is a seperate tool isnt it
[08:40] <Razor-X> oh crap, this log is 126,133 lines long
[08:40] <Razor-X> I guess it's time to flush
[08:40] <Razor-X> brb
[08:41] <TheGnome> !pastebin
[08:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> Razor-X:  I don't care. I can do in ten minutes in fireworks what it takes a PS user an hour to do, and a gimp user just gives up on it.
[08:41] <Razor-X> Graphics mean nothing to me :)
[08:41] <Ranukano> Hello all
[08:42] <IceDC571> text means nothing to me
[08:42] <PurpleMotion> they pay my rent and clothe my kids, so ummmm
[08:42] <libanes_> ubotu, read pm please
[08:42] <ubotu> libanes_: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:42] <Razor-X> my brain has no grasp over art whatever
[08:42] <iiiears> once added a new colored div bar to a stock apache install
[08:42] <TheGnome> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1312            <my screenshot
[08:42] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: math will probably do the same for me
[08:42] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: have you played with Inkscape at all?
[08:42] <Ranukano> Wondering if you could tell me something, i'm cursed with a Microsoft Wireless Multimedia keyboard and for most other distros i get a scancode error, wondering if anybody can use ubuntu with it
[08:42] <thoreauputic> libanes_: hrm - ubotu is a bot :)
[08:42] <libanes_> i dont understand ubotu
[08:43] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[08:43] <Madpilot> ubotu tell libanes_ about ubotu
[08:43] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  yeah, and its come a long ways, but it's leaning more towards corel draw than fireworks by way of vector editing tools, and imho, coreldraw BLOWS :)
[08:43] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:43] <libanes_> mmmmmmmmmmmm sorry
[08:43] <PurpleMotion> that and inkscape just isnt done enough yet
[08:43] <Ranukano> So no one can help me?
[08:43] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: Corel Draw was one of the first serious apps I ever got to know... haven't done much with Inkscape, though
[08:43] <iiiears> ubotu you are a genius! :)
[08:43] <ubotu> iiiears: what are you talking about?
[08:44] <Madpilot> !good bot
[08:44] <ubotu> thanks madpilot :)
[08:44] <TheGnome> i bought ubotu a hooker
[08:44] <libanes_> lol
[08:44] <TheGnome> she was a fembot
[08:44] <Madpilot> TheGnome: :)
[08:44] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  yeah, like i said inkscape is coming along well, but it's still very lacking, and i dont like the direction its going in at all.. it needs to come the direction of fireworks, not coreldraw
[08:44] <Ranukano> thought this was suppose to be a help channel :P
[08:44] <TheGnome> anybody check my screenshot.................u guys didnt like it?
[08:44] <Razor-X> a totally new log, mmmm :)
[08:44] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  whats the url?
[08:44] <Razor-X> Ranukano: I guess the mods have been on vacation for the last few weeks
[08:44] <TheGnome> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1312
[08:45] <zerboxx> What is beagle?
[08:45] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: never used Fireworks at all - still trying to train myself out of using Photoshop shortcuts in the GIMP, though!
[08:45] <Razor-X> !info beagle
[08:45] <Whistler> cool
[08:45] <Whistler> :)
[08:45] <Razor-X> or...
[08:45] <Razor-X> !beagule
[08:45] <ubotu> Razor-X: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:45] <Razor-X> !beagle
[08:45] <ubotu> beagle is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[08:45] <Madpilot> Ranukano: try asking again in a few hours - personally I still used wired keyboard/mice - much simpler!
[08:45] <Ranukano> Razor-X - I guess no one uses bit torrent for trading ubuntu either :P
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Ranukano: maybe no -one knows...
[08:45] <iiiears> beagle is nice - just couldn't get it installed on hoary hedgehog.
[08:45] <xrnath> !beagle
[08:46] <iiiears> Woof!
[08:46] <Ranukano> thoreauputic - Its fine if no one knows, but no one even bothered to recognize what i said :P
[08:46] <TheGnome> beagle.........................................................................................................................................
[08:46] <TheGnome> oops
[08:46] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  photoshop is still my preference for PHOTO editing, but for web-based graphics, professional graphic design, etc, fireworks is my bread and butter and was worth _every_penny_ of the 400 i paid for it
[08:46] <TheGnome> oops
[08:46] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, u didnt like it : (
[08:46] <Madpilot> Ranukano: that's probably easier than a whole channelful of people saying "Sorry, I don't know"...
[08:46] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  I *love* that wallpaper
[08:46] <IceDC571> what wallpaper?
[08:46] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, coole
[08:46] <libanes_> in gnome i use gedit but in kde?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> Ranukano: IRC is like that sometimes - I once waited an hour for any acknowledgement in #fluxbox :)
[08:46] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, u want it?
[08:47] <IceDC571> libanes_: um... use kate
[08:47] <Ranukano> :P Not new to IRC, but i'd at least expect one no
[08:47] <libanes_> thanks IceDC571
[08:47] <PurpleMotion> sure, email to jay@daede.com if you would :)
[08:47] <Ranukano> Hmm, what all can that ubotu do :P
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Ranukano: no
[08:47] <bimberi> thoreauputic: lol
[08:47] <TheGnome> that wallpaper is something Thewarmachine gave me
[08:47] <Ranukano> Little late there
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Ranukano: happy ? *g*
[08:47] <Ranukano> :(
[08:47] <PurpleMotion> Ranukano:  a pretty cleverly designed bot, he is
[08:47] <Ranukano> No?
[08:47] <Ranukano> PurpleMotion - aye, but what language is he made out of
[08:48] <thoreauputic> Ranukano: perl I think
[08:48] <killahkosha> Where can I find the right settings for the horizontal and vertical refresh/sync for a 19" CRT that does 2048x1536@60Hz?
[08:48] <Ranukano> i tried doing a simple version check, but he doesn't reply, so i don't think hes a pre-made, has to be custom
[08:48] <PurpleMotion> firewall
[08:48] <PurpleMotion> ur gonna have to email it, bro
[08:48] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, click on the file
[08:48] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, click on the file
[08:48] <thoreauputic> !tell Ranukano about blootbot
[08:48] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, i have a firewall
[08:48] <IceDC571> does kde look pretty yet?
[08:48] <PurpleMotion> Ranukano:  good question... someone had a link to his source code i think
[08:48] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, trust me
[08:48] <TheGnome> double click
[08:48] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  yea, but i dont control my firewall
[08:48] <thoreauputic> ah he doesn't know!
[08:49] <TheGnome> just try it
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> and it already failed on my end
[08:49] <Ranukano> Aye, only thing i've created for IRC is a server bot
[08:49] <TheGnome> lost
[08:49] <TheGnome> i have a firewall
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !info blootbot
[08:49] <ubotu> blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-5.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[08:49] <TheGnome> you have to click on it
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> .o(02:47:57): * TheGnome has offered deepbluesea.jpg (134472 bytes)
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> .o(02:48:09): * DCC RECV connect attempt to TheGnome failed (err=No route to host).
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> i did
[08:49] <tomaj> i get the following error when trying to make kernel packages according the the wiki guide, "Missing /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/abi/2.6.10-34.4/abiname file.make: *** [clean]  Error 1", how do i fix it?
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> it said no
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> Hai, rob
[08:49] <Ranukano> I like the fact the install/live DVD is bittorrent only, and no one uses bittorrent to get it
[08:49] <iiiears> killahkosha - obviously the manufacturers site is the easiest source for info. - if you get stuck the FCC license number can bail you out
[08:50] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, isnt the point of linux NOT to have firewalls
[08:50] <Subvertir> No
[08:50] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, i have a firewall.........but i set it up good
[08:50] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  the firewall is a physical thing. a cisco firewall, and I have _no_ control over it
[08:50] <PurpleMotion> as in its not mine
[08:50] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, mine is physical
[08:51] <TheGnome> its a hardware firewall
[08:51] <TheGnome> if you cant control a hardware firewall.........then well ........that sucks
[08:51] <PurpleMotion> yeah so is this one, and its owner is uBerParanoid
[08:51] <TheGnome> ahh
[08:51] <TheGnome> ok
[08:51] <TheGnome> sorry
[08:51] <Ranukano> lol
[08:51] <PurpleMotion> like i said, you're gonna have to email it, m8 ;)
[08:52] <TheGnome> your on somebody else's network
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> aye
[08:52] <TheGnome> ok address again
[08:52] <TheGnome> ?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: eww - email is so Last Year (tm)
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> jay@daede.com
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> I get to go first
[08:52] <thoreauputic> !lart iiiears
[08:52] <PurpleMotion> ;)
[08:52] <Ranukano> thoreauputic - i'm a dinosaur then
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> !trout thoreauputic
[08:53] <ubotu> Not a clue, PurpleMotion
[08:53] <PurpleMotion> blah!
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Ranukano: ;)
[08:54] <Ranukano> Windows Vista... i don't even know how good that is gonna work... i heard its a large size for a windows OS
[08:54] <TheGnome> ok PurpleMotion it is sent
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> tyvm
[08:54] <TheGnome> no prob
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> anybody here seen stealth?
[08:54] <PurpleMotion> awesome flick
[08:54] <tomaj> can someone please help me with my custom kernel packaging problem?
[08:54] <Whistler> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1313
[08:55] <Ranukano> PurpleMotion - aye
[08:55] <libanes_> oot@tecnoman:/home/libanes # sudo kate  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <libanes_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:55] <libanes_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:55] <Whistler> whats wrong ?
[08:55] <libanes_> WTF??
[08:55] <Whistler> is my sources list messed up?
[08:55] <Madpilot> Whistler: rythymbox should be installed by default
[08:55] <ernie> i got the amd64 of ubuntu and i can't use k3b it says that cdrdao is not installed
[08:55] <Whistler> Madpilot it is
[08:55] <Ranukano> TheGnome - I like the screen
[08:55] <ernie> i tried doing a apt-get but get nothing
[08:55] <Whistler> but i wanna update it
[08:55] <Ranukano> Very pretty
[08:55] <libanes_> some help please
[08:56] <PurpleMotion> !find cdrdao
[08:56] <ubotu> cdrdao: (Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs), section universe/otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1:1.1.9-3ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB
[08:56] <Madpilot> Whistler: do you have Uninverse repos enabled?
[08:56] <PurpleMotion> ernie:  you need to enable universe/multiverse
[08:56] <Madpilot> *Universe
[08:56] <PurpleMotion> !repositories
[08:56] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:56] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:56] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:56] <ernie> how do i do that
[08:56] <ernie> ok
[08:56] <TheGnome> rhythmbox Whister...................installed by DEFAULT
[08:56] <Whistler> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1314
[08:56] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: heh...
[08:56] <Whistler> heres my sources list
[08:57] <thoreauputic> !vista
[08:57] <Whistler> is it ok?
[08:57] <ubotu> [vista]  the next version of windows  Viruses, Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans and Adware ;-)
[08:57] <PurpleMotion> uhhh
[08:57] <PurpleMotion> i thought we didnt diss other os's in here
[08:57] <Whistler> TheGnome i know but i wanna have never version
[08:57] <TheGnome> Whistler, so visit the site
[08:57] <PurpleMotion> ubotu forget vista
[08:57] <ubotu> i forgot vista, PurpleMotion
[08:57] <Madpilot> wow, who put that into ubotu? I like it
[08:57] <PurpleMotion> ubotu lock vista
[08:57] <TheGnome> Whistler, get the newest version
[08:58] <Whistler> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1314
[08:58] <Whistler> is this ok?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: a bit humourless today PurpleMotion ?
[08:58] <libanes_> i have problems to use kate
[08:58] <libanes_> doesent save the file
[08:58] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  no, but we're supposed to be the friendly distro ;) slamming ms at every turn is counterproductive
[08:59] <TheGnome> Whistler, the version in the repos is the version you have.........go to there website to get the new one
[08:59] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  besides, from what ive seen of vista, it's pretty damned nice
[08:59] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: erm, OK.... whatever you say :)
[08:59] <TheGnome> what is vista?
[08:59] <Madpilot> vista is shiny, anyway...
[08:59] <Subvertir> I think XP is pretty nice
[08:59] <Madpilot> TheGnome: upcoming version of Windows
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ubotu vista is he next version of Windows
[08:59] <ubotu> ...but vista is already something else...
[08:59] <TheGnome> Madpilot, i thought it was called longhorn?
[09:00] <PurpleMotion> i think longhorn is gonna be the server version
[09:00] <TheGnome> really
[09:00] <Madpilot> TheGnome: they changed the name, it seems
[09:00] <TheGnome> cool
[09:00] <libanes_> some help please
[09:00] <libanes_> some help please
[09:00] <PurpleMotion> but its all almost entirely xml based... VERY nice if you have current hardware
[09:00] <libanes_> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:00] <TheGnome> Whistler, the version in the repos is the version you have.........go to there website to get the new one
[09:00] <libanes_> what is that :S
[09:00] <Whistler> k
[09:00] <TheGnome> Whistler, you get me
[09:01] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: OK changed the factoid to just the next version of windows, which is what I was going to do anyway before you wiped it...
[09:01] <iiiears> libanes_ - XORG configuration problem?
[09:01] <TheGnome> xorg rules
[09:01] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  wasn't aware it was yours, m8, my bad
[09:01] <libanes_> are you sure?
[09:01] <PurpleMotion> thought some random person did it
[09:02] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: I just changed it for fun, and intended to change it back immediately: no worries
[09:02] <w0rmz> is there any extra repos for ubuntu
[09:02] <w0rmz> ?
[09:02] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  like i said, missed the part where you set it ;) no worries
[09:03] <w0rmz> i want to install "convert" program
[09:03] <ernie> hey i get an error trying to install the nvidia nforce audio drivers
[09:03] <TheGnome> Whistler, your gonna find no difference between 8.8 and 9
[09:03] <ernie> amd64 version of ubuntu
[09:03] <TheGnome> get intel .......... lol
[09:03] <TheGnome> j/k
[09:04] <PurpleMotion> brb, nature and need for more tea calls
[09:04] <ernie> it said something about not being able to find the kernal sources
[09:04] <ernie> or something
[09:04] <w0rmz> elo
[09:04] <TheGnome> install kernel sources
[09:04] <w0rmz> i need extra repos for ubuntu
[09:04] <w0rmz> pls
[09:04] <ernie> okie
[09:05] <cyphase> anyone been hit by Zotob?
[09:05] <cyphase> :)
[09:05] <w0rmz> tok ang punya zotob
[09:05] <iiiears> libanes sudo or gksudo <app_name> will give you app super root powers to write to any file
[09:05] <topyli> w0rmz: repositories for what?
[09:05] <jtan325> w0rmz, !repositories
[09:05] <jtan325> !repositories
[09:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:05] <w0rmz> topyli, for "convert" program
[09:06] <iiiears> w0rmz - convert rpms to debs? "alien"
[09:06] <topyli> w0rmz: to convert images? that's in the imagemagic package
[09:06] <TheGnome> w0rmz, that package is installed by default
[09:06] <TheGnome> alien
[09:06] <w0rmz> topyli, where can i learn all about ubuntu program + application ?
[09:06] <OrpoU> I installed mplayer and codecs with instructions from ubuntuguide. Totem player can view video files, but mplayer won't and it hangs. What could be wrong?
[09:06] <w0rmz> im from fedora
[09:06] <Ronan> Just came off of Ubuntu. By accident deleting my Windows.
[09:07] <TheGnome> w0rmz, THEN GET OUT.........j/k
[09:07] <topyli> w0rmz: it's pretty much the same selection of software
[09:07] <Ronan> Came off of Fedora*
[09:07] <w0rmz> TheGnome, u get lost
[09:08] <Ronan> Does Ubuntu setup booting programs?
[09:08] <tomaj> how do you change a foldername in terminal?
[09:08] <nomis_> tomaj, mv oldname newname
[09:08] <landon> hi guys
[09:08] <tomaj> thanx nomis_
[09:08] <landon> anyone know of a way to kick a logged in user?
[09:08] <nomis_> welcome
[09:08] <landon> as root?
[09:09] <topyli> OrpoU: perhaps mplayer can't handle sound if you're using the sound server
[09:09] <landon> like, a command that'll log the user off all shells
[09:09] <iiiears> ronan - "Sessions" >> "Start up" ??
[09:09] <TheGnome> yeah for me i had to tell mplayer to use alsa
[09:09] <nomis_> landon, kill the login shell of the user ;)
[09:09] <landon> nomis_: how do i find that particular pid?
[09:09] <w0rmz> topyli, can i use debian repos for ubuntu?
[09:09] <landon> nomis_: i have a few other bash sessions running for other users
[09:10] <topyli> w0rmz: not really
[09:10] <OrpoU> topyli: Sound server? does mplayer require working sound card configuration?
[09:10] <iiiears> ps -e ?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> w0rmz: not a good idea
[09:10] <topyli> w0rmz: no need either. the ubuntu repositories have the same stuff
[09:10] <w0rmz> ok thanks
[09:10] <Ronan> Might there be a way to access my other harddrive? It's on ntfs.
[09:10] <nomis_> landon, ps aux | grep username   ?
[09:10] <ms12> !wep
[09:10] <ubotu> ms12: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:10] <ms12> yes
[09:10] <ms12> !yes
[09:10] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, ms12?
[09:11] <ms12> !wep
[09:11] <ubotu> ms12: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:11] <ms12> ubotu yes
[09:11] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[09:11] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[09:11] <Iminzil> Why cant I get ip from dhcp ? I have tryed static ip and dhcp.... I know the networkcard is supported. And i get ip from dhcp in the install og ubuntu. But not in ubuntu after the install.
[09:11] <topyli> Ronan: yep, just mount it
[09:11] <Iminzil> og = of
[09:11] <ms12> thoreuptic i am just trying to find a howto to configure my wep
[09:12] <ms12> !wireless configuration
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ms12: fair enough - you repeated !wep andI thought you were fooling around :)
[09:12] <ubotu> ms12: No idea
[09:12] <libanes_> this video card are suported on kubuntu???? http://www.sis.com/products/sism661fx.htm
[09:12] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[09:12] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:12] <ms12> thoreuptic i am new in using ubotu :(
[09:13] <w0rmz> topyli, where do i learn the application + program that being called in ubuntu
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ms12: OK :)
[09:13] <ms12> thoreuptic thanx
[09:13] <thoreauputic> np
[09:13] <w0rmz> topyli, like alien or imagemagic
[09:13] <topyli> w0rmz: man alien, man imagemagic
[09:13] <PurpleMotion> if the average body is 80% water, i would have to say that mine is probably about 75% lipton lemon flavored iced tea, and 5% water :D
[09:13] <landon> nomis_: yeah, i've tried kill'ing (-9 as well) the results, but the processes still remain. What I'm trying to do is to unmount a partition that a user is currently navigating "pwd." Ultimately, I'm trying to reboot this computer by way of a powerswitch, since "shutdown -r/-h now" doesn't work
[09:14] <topyli> w0rmz: btw, apparently it's "imagemagick"
[09:14] <landon> nomis_: and i'd like to unmount that partition so as to not cause any data loss
[09:14] <w0rmz> topyli, u dont get me
[09:14] <ms12> ok says here i have to put my wep key in hexdecimal
[09:14] <cyphase> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/90536284.html
[09:14] <w0rmz> topyli, i wont know the program if you dont tell me
[09:14] <ms12> thanx thoreautic again and bye
[09:14] <w0rmz> so...is there any list for those application for ubuntu
[09:14] <topyli> w0rmz: oh well, then you ask on IRC! :)
[09:15] <Iminzil> Why cant I get ip from dhcp ? I have tryed static ip and dhcp.... I know the networkcard is supported. And i get ip from dhcp in the install of ubuntu. But not in ubuntu after the install.
[09:15] <w0rmz> topyli, ahaaa..thanks
[09:15] <w0rmz> hehe
[09:15] <thoreauputic> !list
[09:15] <ubotu> well, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:15] <thoreauputic> w0rmz: ^^^
[09:15] <w0rmz> yeah...thank you very much
[09:15] <libanes_> this video card are suported on kubuntu???? http://www.sis.com/products/sism661fx.htm
[09:15] <w0rmz> im looking for this
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ah soory misunderstood...
[09:15] <topyli> w0rmz: also, use "apropos". like if you have an rpm package, you can use "apropos rpm" and get a list of apporopriate programs
[09:15] <killahkosha> is 6324fps a good score for glxgears?
[09:16] <w0rmz> topyli, thanks dude
[09:16] <killahkosha> and when you go about testing the fps, do you leave the window at the default size?
[09:16] <iiiears> ubotu wep is - this link doesn't make me look too good but it is something. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315&ei=OuMCQ-nCK4ia4QH_2cgh
[09:16] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[09:17] <libanes_> iiiears, can help please
[09:17] <iiiears> ubotu ndis is also http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[09:17] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[09:17] <OrpoU> topyli: how can I be sure if I am using sound server and what other options do I have?
[09:17] <thoreauputic> iiiears: ewwww - you're right, that's a heck of an ugly URL ;)
[09:17] <topyli> iiiears: it's dead too
[09:18] <ernie> ok i installed the kernel-source files for my amd64 and trying running the nvidia nforce drivers again and i still get the "unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel"
[09:18] <Razor-X> iiiears: we need a perma tinyURL on that :)
[09:18] <ernie> anyone know where the kernel-source-path" is?
[09:18] <iiiears> Razor-X - <perk> how is that done?
[09:18] <landon> hi guys, how do i log a user off a system, besides killing their shells
[09:18] <Ronan> How do I mount my other hard drive? ;x
[09:19] <topyli> OrpoU: in system -> preferences -> sound
[09:19] <iiiears> !wep
[09:19] <ubotu> it has been said that wep is - this link doesn't make me look too good but it is something. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315&ei=OuMCQ-nCK4ia4QH_2cgh
[09:19] <iiiears> ubotu forget wep
[09:19] <ubotu> iiiears: i forgot wep
[09:19] <iiiears> heh
[09:19] <Madpilot> Ronan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:20] <Ronan> Thanks.
[09:20] <Iminzil> cya. after 10 hours of trying to fix the trouble with dhcp in ubuntu (that many people have) and get no answer, slackware here i come
[09:20] <libanes_> someone can help me please
[09:21] <iiiears> Razor-X perma tinyURL?
[09:21] <OrpoU> topyli: Can't mplayer work with sound server enabled?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> libanes_: you video card won't work?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> *your
[09:22] <libanes_> dont
[09:22] <OrpoU> topyli: And can gnome use sounds without sound server?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> libanes_: keep it in channel please
[09:22] <libanes_> ok thanhttp://www.sis.com/products/sism661fx.htmks
[09:22] <libanes_> ok
[09:22] <thoreauputic> libanes_: please, don't /msg me
[09:22] <iiiears> ubotu samba is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:22] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[09:23] <libanes_> ok thoreauputic
[09:23] <topyli> OrpoU: mplayer can use the server. and yes, gnome sounds work but only one at a time. the server is for playing multiple sounds simultaneously
[09:23] <thoreauputic> libanes_: so is your trouble not getting X to work?
[09:23] <topyli> OrpoU: like if you're listening to music and an alarm sound goes off
[09:23] <thoreauputic> libanes_: be specific
[09:24] <libanes_> x work fine but when i need to edit sme files with kate give me error
[09:24] <iiiears> ubotu wep is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[09:24] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[09:24] <libanes_> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:24] <libanes_> kate: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[09:24] <thoreauputic> libanes_: what error?
[09:24] <nomego> How is ubuntu configured to display those cute balls instead of regular stars when entering passwords?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> libanes_: are you running it as user or root?
[09:24] <libanes_> root
[09:24] <killahkosha> Does anyone know of a respository that I can add in Synaptic that has things like RTCW: Enemy Territory?
[09:25] <iiiears> << would like to add slot machine symbols to the log-in box. - grin
[09:25] <thoreauputic> libanes_: don't do that
[09:25] <OrpoU> You suggested than mplayer might hang because sound server was used? What you ment with that?
[09:25] <OrpoU> topyli: You suggested than mplayer might hang because sound server was used? What you ment with that?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> libanes_: what does  ls -l ~/.Xauthority say ?
[09:25] <nomego> iiiears: So I take it you don't know where the password symbols are configured either?
[09:26] <iiiears> no - i wish i did. - sry
[09:26] <topyli> OrpoU: mplayer hangs because the it tries to use the sound device, but the device is busy because the server is using it. so, mplayer should use the server, not talk to devices directly
[09:26] <thoreauputic> libanes_: type that command as your user
[09:26] <libanes_> -rw-------  1 libanes libanes 102 2005-08-17 02:09 /home/libanes/.Xauthority
[09:26] <OrpoU> how can I enable that?
[09:27] <OrpoU> topyli: how can I enable that?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> libanes_: are you using KDE?
[09:27] <libanes_> yes
[09:27] <libanes_> i install kubuntu
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> <3 KDE <3
[09:27] <topyli> OrpoU: what's with mplayer anyway? you said totem works. anyway, it's an mplayer configuration option, tell it to use "esd"
[09:27] <thoreauputic> libanes_: close kate and run  kdesu kate
[09:27] <RootX|Arphetic> hello
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> hello
[09:27] <thoreauputic> libanes_: tell me errors if any
[09:28] <RootX|Arphetic> oh ur already helping someone :] 
[09:28] <RootX|Arphetic> i'll wait
[09:28] <OrpoU> topyli: Totem is fine, but Im going to use the vdr mplayer plugin and I think that mplayer should work before I try that.
[09:28] <DukGalNamu> i think the java script in firefox is buggy with yahoo
[09:28] <PurpleMotion> RootX|Arphetic:  what's the problem? Mayhap someone else can assist you
[09:28] <libanes_> root@tecnoman:/home/libanes #  kdesu kate
[09:28] <libanes_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:28] <libanes_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:29] <iiiears> nomego - dunno but it seems like the log-in box is called "PAM" http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/modules.html
[09:29] <TheGnome> RootX|Arphetic, whats the prob
[09:29] <thoreauputic> libanes_: output of  ~/.ICEauthority please
[09:29] <RootX|Arphetic> Im getting in some endless loop while trying to install
[09:29] <topyli> OrpoU: ok. does mplayer hang immediately or can you get to the GUI?
[09:29] <RootX|Arphetic> at erm...
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  exit out of root, sudo apt-get install sux, sudo sux -, kate &
[09:29] <RootX|Arphetic> 1 mom hold on
[09:29] <DukGalNamu> is there anyway to force the kernel to refresh a program that it likely has cached in memory?
[09:29] <RootX|Arphetic> im trying to install on server mode now so
[09:30] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: what is sux?
[09:30] <nomego> iiiears: If I'm not wrong.. it's actually a configuration option in gdm.conf - UseCirclesInEntry=[true|false] 
[09:30] <RootX|Arphetic> i thought it was something like... vic extra modules or so
[09:30] <DukGalNamu> a misspell of sucks
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  it's a wrapper for su that transfers x authority :D
[09:30] <iiiears> nomego - cool
[09:30] <thoreauputic> libanes_: sorry I meant  ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[09:30] <iiiears> gotta take a peek
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> sux (1)              - wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials
[09:31] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: does he need that? Why not sudo or kdesu ?
[09:31] <libanes_> libanes@tecnoman:~$ ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[09:31] <libanes_> -rw-------  1 libanes libanes 195 2005-08-17 02:09 /home/libanes/.ICEauthority
[09:31] <TheGnome> gksu
[09:31] <TheGnome> if in gnome
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  *shrug* I just know it would fix that problem :D
[09:31] <TheGnome> if in kde
[09:31] <thoreauputic> libanes_: hmm - looks OK
[09:31] <budluva> how can i tell if dma is enabled on my dvd burner? as i can only burn at 8x speeds with 16x media
[09:31] <DukGalNamu> is there anyway to force the kernel to refresh a program that it likely has cached in memory?
[09:31] <TheGnome> hang yourself
[09:31] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: fair enough
[09:31] <RootX|Arphetic> btw whts the minimum of ram ubuntu needs/
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> 30mb
[09:31] <TheGnome> 128
[09:31] <RootX|Arphetic> \
[09:31] <RootX|Arphetic> ?
[09:32] <TheGnome> the site said 128
[09:32] <TheGnome> i think
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> depends on what you are running
[09:32] <thoreauputic> libanes_: that's odd - what happens if you run  sudo kate ?
[09:32] <RootX|Arphetic> i have 32 ... should extend
[09:32] <Prowl3r> Quick question anyone tried BX under Ubuntu?
[09:32] <Madpilot> !tell budluva about dma
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> if you have no x then only 30
[09:32] <TheGnome> maybe that was for the live cd
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> (or you are using flux)
[09:32] <TheGnome> flux is cool
[09:32] <RootX|Arphetic> fluxbox rox
[09:32] <libanes_> root@tecnoman:/home/libanes # sudo kate
[09:32] <libanes_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:32] <libanes_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:32] <libanes_> kded: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:32] <libanes_> kded: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[09:32] <libanes_> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[09:32] <topyli> RootX|Arphetic: a colleague installed it on a box with 128M and he said it works ok, gnome and all
[09:32] <libanes_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> the best
[09:32] <libanes_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:32] <libanes_> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[09:32] <libanes_> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[09:32] <libanes_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:32] <libanes_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:32] <RootX|Arphetic> ah hetere
[09:32] <libanes_> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:32] <libanes_> kate: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[09:32] <libanes_> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[09:32] <libanes_> root@tecnoman:/home/libanes #
[09:33] <TheGnome> i had it installed on 128
[09:33] <Ronan> Can I run my windows programs on my windows harddrive through Samba? (after I mount that drive)
[09:33] <RootX|Arphetic> i get in endless loop here
[09:33] <Madpilot> !paste
[09:33] <topyli> libanes_: please stop
[09:33] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:33] <TheGnome> Ronan, no
[09:33] <Madpilot> libanes_: see ubotu's paste thing, PLEASE!
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> "To use this install CD, you must have an Intel x86-based computer with at least 32 MB of RAM, and at least 350 MB (for a minimal installation) or 1.8 GB (for a typical installation) free space on your hard disk. Your computer must also be configured to boot from CD."
[09:33] <TheGnome> Ronan, maybe with wine
[09:33] <Ronan> TheGnome, I will be able to access the files though, Right?
[09:33] <RootX|Arphetic> nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di
[09:33] <libanes_> ok sorry
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> :)
[09:33] <TheGnome> Ronan, yes
[09:33] <RootX|Arphetic> there he gets in trouble
[09:33] <thoreauputic> libanes_: common sense would tell you not to do that :/
[09:33] <Ronan> TheGnome, awesome. Thanks.
[09:33] <OrpoU> topyli: It opens but hung when tried to open file. Now I changed sound to esd but now it firt says about interrupt 11: decode_audio and then crashed to fatal error.
[09:33] <killahkosha> normal .deb packages work fine with ubuntu right?
[09:34] <TheGnome> drifting flurries of pain
[09:34] <Madpilot> libanes_: if there had been an op here right now that might have gotten you kicked off...
[09:34] <libanes_> sorry man i dont now how this work .
[09:34] <RootX|Arphetic> -> When it tries to unpack nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di it stops and goes back to retrieve it...
[09:34] <libanes_> i am learning
[09:34] <topyli> OrpoU: hrmpf. then i don't know, sorry. i don't use mplayer :)
[09:34] <OrpoU> topyli: I also tried null audio but it still complains about interrupt 11: decode_audio
[09:34] <Madpilot> !tell libanes_ about paste
[09:34] <libanes_> i dont do that never again
[09:34] <OrpoU> topyli: ok, thanks for help
[09:34] <iiska> killahkosha: Usually they work just fine
[09:34] <TheGnome> libanes_, yeah the operators are really strict
[09:35] <RootX|Arphetic> No1 can help me?
[09:35] <TheGnome> libanes_, you can paste in #flood
[09:35] <Madpilot> anyway, need sleep. later, everyone
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> I'm not asking for much, I'd just like them to kill my food before they serve it to me. Yaknow, I do an honest days work, I want already dead food. Is that too much for a fella to ask?
[09:35] <libanes_> ok TheGnome
[09:35] <thoreauputic> libanes_: -->  kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed
[09:36] <thoreauputic> libanes_: looks like a kate problem
[09:36] <libanes_> i dont think that
[09:36] <thoreauputic> libanes_: look at ~/.xsession-errors
[09:36] <libanes_> beacouse if i run kate from xwindows works fine
[09:36] <RootX|Arphetic> brb
[09:36] <libanes_> but from console doesent
[09:36] <thoreauputic> libanes_: OMG
[09:36] <thoreauputic> libanes_: it's an X application!
[09:37] <TheGnome> its cuz kde has buggs
[09:37] <thoreauputic> libanes_: you can't run kate ina tty
[09:37] <libanes_> yes but i can call kate from tty
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  i see from your prompt you're running it as root in the terminal... what happens when you run it without su'ing first?
[09:37] <libanes_> when y make sudo kate  /etc/apt/sources.list doesent work
[09:38] <TheGnome> just sudo kate
[09:38] <PurpleMotion> it should
[09:38] <AMCDeathKnight> I was wondering
[09:38] <TheGnome> not make sudo kate
[09:38] <AMCDeathKnight> How do you use irc through ssh?
[09:38] <TheGnome> bitchx
[09:38] <TheGnome> bitchx
[09:38] <Nermal> AMCDeathKnight, ssh in and start the client
[09:38] <Nermal> iirssi
[09:38] <Razor-X> TheGnome: good job ;)
[09:38] <Nermal> erm. irssi
[09:38] <libanes_> in gnome this work fine sudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:38] <Razor-X> AMCDeathKnight: you create an SSH tunnel
[09:38] <Nermal> or bitchx :)
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  use kedit instead :D
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> ok; do I ssh in and type: xchat
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> that will start client
[09:39] <Nermal> no
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> what then
[09:39] <Razor-X> AMCDeathKnight: nopes
[09:39] <Razor-X> that's wrong
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> oh
[09:39] <Nermal> ssh -X for x applications
[09:39] <Razor-X> AMCDeathKnight: read the ssh manpage
[09:39] <Nermal> to forward x
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> so
[09:39] <Razor-X> Nermal: oh really, it monitors every connection of an X application?
[09:39] <AMCDeathKnight> ssh -x xchat
[09:39] <Nermal> no
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  OR apt-get install sux, then sudo sux -, then kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:39] <Razor-X> I had generally just tunneled one port
[09:39] <Nermal> it forwards x from the remote machine
[09:40] <Nermal> so x apps appear on your local machine
[09:40] <Razor-X> Nermal: he doesen't want to forward X
[09:40] <Nermal> Razor-X, he does if he's using xchat over ssh
[09:40] <Razor-X> he wants to SSH tunnel his connection
[09:40] <Razor-X> (I'ld think)
[09:40] <AMCDeathKnight> I just want to chat to irc channels through ssh
[09:40] <AMCDeathKnight> i have ssh working
[09:40] <Razor-X> yeah, see
[09:40] <Nermal> AMCDeathKnight, install a console irc client
[09:40] <Razor-X> he wants to SSH forward his connection
[09:40] <Razor-X> Nermal: why?
[09:40] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[09:40] <Razor-X> AMCDeathKnight: no, you don't have to
[09:40] <Nermal> god
[09:40] <Nermal> this channel fucks me off
[09:40] <libanes_> cant find package sux
[09:41] <thoreauputic> AMCDeathKnight: the X in ssh -X is upper case
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> !find sux
[09:41] <ubotu> sux: (wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  enable the universe/multiverse repositories
[09:41] <AMCDeathKnight> ok dont worry guys lol i dont want you guys to get into a fight i will just wont do it
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> !repos
[09:41] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:41] <Razor-X> try this
[09:41] <AMCDeathKnight> no biggie
[09:42] <Razor-X> ssh -D 6771 foo@bar.com
[09:42] <libanes_> to enable this i need to edit with kate and save the file
[09:42] <Razor-X> errr, no, hold on
[09:42] <libanes_> that is the thing that i cant do
[09:42] <Razor-X> the man page has the stuff, but hold on
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  sudo apt-get install kedit && sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <thoreauputic> libanes_: then use nano or vim in terminal to edit it
[09:42] <alie> which file in xorg keeps information for different user modes ?
[09:43] <alie> for command or x
[09:43] <Ronan> How do I mount my other hard drive? :/
[09:43] <libanes_> dont work grgrgrgrg
[09:43] <alie> and how to change my default mode from gnome to xfce4
[09:43] <kemik> !tell ronan about ntfs
[09:43] <libanes_> i have kde
[09:43] <libanes_> kde sucks i move to gnome better :(
[09:43] <kemik> Ronan:  that link contains a script that will automount ntfs/fat partitions and add them to fstab
[09:44] <PurpleMotion> heh, suit yourself :) KDE rocks for me
[09:44] <AMCDeathKnight> I use Gnome
[09:44] <Ronan> kemik, I know that it's NTFS, Do I just simply mount it in my fstab
[09:44] <PurpleMotion> libanes_:  here's what you can do with KDE, http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg
[09:44] <AMCDeathKnight> I havnt really tried kde
[09:44] <AMCDeathKnight> whats the difference?
[09:44] <kemik> Ronan:  use the link and do as it says
[09:44] <Razor-X> AMCDeathKnight: here we are
[09:44] <Ronan> kemik, thanks.
[09:44] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[09:44] <PurpleMotion> AMCDeathKnight:  KDE is a lot more 'complete' by way of what a desktop should be... YMMV
[09:44] <kemik> Ronan:  or if you're familiar with fstab you can add it manually ofcourse
[09:44] <Razor-X> ssh -L 6771:irc.foo.com:6771 -l username -N servername
[09:45] <Razor-X> where irc.foo.com is the irc server address
[09:45] <alie> how to start xfce4 from command line ?
[09:45] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[09:45] <AMCDeathKnight> thanks
[09:45] <Razor-X> username is the username you use to connect to the SSH server
[09:45] <Razor-X> and servername is... the servername ;)
[09:45] <AMCDeathKnight> lol
[09:45] <AMCDeathKnight> thanks
[09:45] <Razor-X> then, open a server connection in your IRC client of choice to localhost:6771
[09:45] <Razor-X> and that should work
[09:45] <libanes_> mmmmmmmmmmm
[09:46] <PurpleMotion> how does one go about getting hold of an oper ont his network?
[09:46] <AMCDeathKnight> ok thanks
[09:46] <AMCDeathKnight> gtg
[09:46] <AMCDeathKnight> bye
[09:46] <AMCDeathKnight> thanks for your help
[09:46] <Razor-X> errrr
[09:47] <Razor-X> amblin: I got the port numbers wrong
[09:47] <PurpleMotion> lilo:  you here, m8?
[09:47] <Razor-X> errr
[09:47] <Razor-X> damn him
[09:47] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:47] <goldenfox> how can i edit xorg.conf ? it's permission denied
[09:48] <goldenfox> anybody?
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> goldenfox:  throw a sudo in front of the command
[09:48] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: you can sort of summon channel ops with !ops (assuming they are paying attention)
[09:48] <goldenfox> ok thanks
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> sudo whatever /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  I don't want a channel op, I want an oper :)
[09:48] <RootX|Arphetic> back
[09:48] <thoreauputic> OK
[09:48] <RootX|Arphetic> -> When it tries to unpack nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di it stops and goes back to retrieve it...
[09:48] <RootX|Arphetic> This is the error
[09:49] <Razor-X> PurpleMotion: I don't have a text editor called ``whatever'' ;)
[09:49] <PurpleMotion> Razor-X:  i was ignorant to his editor, so i generalized
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: well, write one *grin*
[09:49] <goldenfox> sudo thing is cool :)
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> goldenfox:  yeah, it is.. but use it with care.. you can fsck up the whole system if you dont
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: alias whatever='vim'  heheh
[09:50] <kemik> oh my
[09:50] <som1> hey, i uh.. apt-get-ed xmms, and a friend put some songs for me on cds. the .mp3 files sound really weird, like if it was a tape, that black thingie was about to be cut
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> alias vim='cat /dev/null'
[09:50] <RootX|Arphetic> nic, isnt that for IP/TCP ?
[09:50] <som1> any idea what this is?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: :D
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> vim is EVIL
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> well, actually
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> vi is evil
[09:51] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[09:51] <ubotu> ed is better than xemacs
[09:51] <ATI_RAGE_> Howdy everyone
[09:51] <RootX|Arphetic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29223.html
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> vim is just a wannabe ;)
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[09:51] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:51] <ATI_RAGE_> Has anyone tried kernel 2.6.11 yet under Ubuntu?
[09:52] <RootX|Arphetic> that is like 100 percent the same as mee rofl
[09:52] <PurpleMotion> !start an os war
[09:52] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:52] <PurpleMotion> bah
[09:52] <RootX|Arphetic> only the name of the poster is different
[09:52] <Ronan> kemik, it says no usable windows/mac partitions found
[09:53] <Ronan> kemik, my windows is on the other HARD DRIVE, not partition.
[09:53] <RootX|Arphetic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29223
[09:54] <RootX|Arphetic> no1 /
[09:54] <RootX|Arphetic> ??
[09:55] <thoreauputic> ATI_RAGE_: the ubuntu 2.6.11 has "known issues"
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> yeah like its broken
[09:56] <thoreauputic> yup
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> but the vanilla 2.6.11 is just spiffy
[09:56] <RootX|Arphetic> Guys stfu and help me rofl...
[09:56] <som1> heh
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> RootX|Arphetic:  i would if i could, but i cant, so i wont
[09:56] <RootX|Arphetic> mmmm
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> serisouly, i know zero about the installer, sorry
[09:56] <kemik> Ronan:  ah
[09:56] <RootX|Arphetic> to ba
[09:56] <RootX|Arphetic> bad*
[09:57] <Ronan> kemik, how would I mount my other hard drive?
[09:57] <kemik> !ntfs
[09:57] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:57] <n1xt3r> ATI_RAGE_: I'm using debian's 2.6.11 for powerpc
[09:57] <ATI_RAGE_> thoreauputic, ahh so it is not a perfect upgrade
[09:58] <goldenfox> help
[09:58] <kemik> Ronan:  add something like /dev/hdb1  /mountpoint  ntfs  ro,uid=youruser,gid=youruser  0  1
[09:58] <thoreauputic> ATI_RAGE_: I gather the advice is to steer clear of the ubuntu 2.6.11
[09:58] <goldenfox> i still cant change the resolution of my ubuntu
[09:58] <kemik> Ronan:  is it a single-user-system?
[09:58] <Ronan> kemik, awesome, thanks. Yeah.
[09:58] <ATI_RAGE_> Sounds good
[09:59] <kemik> Ronan:  of course you'll have to make sure /dev/hdX# is correct
[09:59] <ATI_RAGE_> thoreauputic, to upgrade a kernel under Ubuntu you can do it through apt-get?
[09:59] <goldenfox> dirtier?
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ATI_RAGE_: yes - apt-cache search linux-image
[09:59] <ATI_RAGE_> or do you do the whole compile, edit grub files
[09:59] <Ronan> kemik, it's hda1
[09:59] <PurpleMotion> im gonna reword the ntfs factoid a touch
[09:59] <alex__> Hello! I've GDM on my ubuntu, but i'd like to use the startx command without start gnome.how can i deactivate gdm (without remove it)?
[10:00] <PurpleMotion> ubotu forget ntfs
[10:00] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: i forgot ntfs
[10:00] <PurpleMotion> ubotu ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[10:00] <ubotu> okay, PurpleMotion
[10:00] <kemik> Ronan:  ok. just add that line to /etc/fstab then
[10:00] <Ronan> kemic, which "chmod" makes it writable, 500 or something?
[10:01] <PurpleMotion> shoudl have made that (NT) (F)ile(S)ystem
[10:01] <PurpleMotion> Ronan:  chmod +w
[10:01] <Ronan> purplemotion, thanks.
[10:01] <kemik> Ronan: NTFS isnt writable in linux (you can achieve it, but it is not safe or recommended)
[10:01] <PurpleMotion> Ronan:  a+w (all) g+w (group) u+w (user, default)
[10:02] <alex__> HELLO! I've GDM on my ubuntu, but i'd like to use the startx command without start gnome.how can i deactivate gdm (without remove it)?
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  it's writable, it's just volatile in such a state
[10:02] <Ronan> (00:59:02) ashtray911usa: im fucking in pain and its been like 2 hours and it hasnt done shit
[10:02] <Ronan> (00:59:07) ashtray911usa: im getting weed
[10:02] <Ronan> er
[10:02] <Ronan> ... chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/fstab': Operation not permitted
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> alex__:  rm -f /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[10:02] <kemik> Ronan:  dont chmod fstab
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> err
[10:02] <kemik> Ronan:  edit it with "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> rm -f /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm
[10:02] <thoreauputic> alex__:  echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:03] <Ronan> kemik, i tried to but it wont let me.
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> or do it that way
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> heh
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> either will effectively do what you want
[10:03] <alex__> thoreauputic: and if i will want to reable it? i guess $ echo "true" | sudo tee ...
[10:03] <ATI_RAGE_> thanks for the help thoreauputic
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> im just so used to manually editing my sys-v init system, i can't unlearn the old ways
[10:03] <thoreauputic> aleksi: no
[10:04] <kemik> Ronan:  that sounds really weird.. whats the errormsg?
[10:04] <Ronan> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/fstab': Operation not permitted
[10:04] <thoreauputic> alex__: you would edit that file and put /usr/bin/gdm
[10:04] <Ronan> kemik, er...it just wont let me type.
[10:04] <thoreauputic> aleksi: soory tab error
[10:04] <Ronan> kemik, nevermind, got it.
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  you can onit the absolute path, cant you?
[10:04] <jtan325> does anyone know anything about making their own man pages
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> Hai skalpel
[10:05] <skalpel> hai PurpleMotion
[10:05] <skalpel> how are you
[10:05] <skalpel> <3 ubuntu
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> ssdd, bro
[10:05] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: probably - that's just what mt file contains
[10:05] <thoreauputic> *my
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> <3 ubuntu, as well as <3 KDE
[10:05] <ernie> question, how do i check sfv and md5 files in console
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  got new screen shots up... http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg
[10:05] <ernie> md5check?
[10:06] <PurpleMotion> md5sum
[10:06] <ernie> but for sfv?
[10:06] <PurpleMotion> md5sum -c checksum file
[10:06] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  which xchat mod are you using?
[10:07] <PurpleMotion> what do you mean?
[10:07] <PurpleMotion> im using the xchat that came with ubuntu :)
[10:07] <PurpleMotion> I just personalized it
[10:07] <kemik> hmm.. gotta look harder at the pref's then..
[10:07] <PurpleMotion> what is it you would like to do?
[10:07] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: that is easily the most gorgeous kde desktop i have ever seen
[10:08] <kemik> get my channelbuttons smaller...
[10:08] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: im gonna save that for later. ;)
[10:08] <budluva> can anyone tell me why my dvd burner ND-3520A which is a 16x/16x DL burner, can only burn at 8x even with 16x media?
[10:08] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  tyVm :) i thought so too
[10:08] <hardkaare> Hi, How do I install the newsest totem from backport?
[10:08] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  i have no channel buttons
[10:08] <budluva> ernie, cfv is good
[10:08] <Ronan> kemik, /dev/hda1       /media/windowshd  ntfs  ro,uid=Ronan,gid=Ronan  0  1
[10:08] <Ronan> kemik, right?
[10:08] <PurpleMotion> just lag and byte info
[10:08] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  yeah , the ones #Linux and #Ubuntu
[10:09] <kemik> upper left corner
[10:09] <zloi>       help plz !!!!
[10:09] <zloi> c      help plz !!!!
[10:09] <PurpleMotion> oh
[10:09] <killahkosha> Wow, gnome is freakishly minimalistic, I love it :)
[10:09] <kemik> Ronan:  that looks good
[10:09] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  I have the 'DotNet' and 'DotNet 2' KDE styles installed, and DotNet2 is the current one
[10:09] <Ronan> kemik, do i have to restart linux or something? it's not showing up when I open the folder.
[10:09] <PurpleMotion> it's what makes the buttons look as they do
[10:10] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  oh.. damn.. im in gnome :/
[10:12] <kemik> Ronan:  im not sure if there's a command to cycle fstab, but you can do "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,uid=Ronan,gid=Ronan /dev/hda1 /media/windowshd"
[10:12] <Ronan> kemik, thanks.
[10:13] <liran> anyone heard of ltsp?
[10:13] <dirty> is there a repository that has clearbox and the big pack of clearlooks themes?
[10:13] <MrPockets> hey, is anyone runnng Gaim?
[10:13] <Ronan> kemik, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[10:13] <Ronan>  (some more stuff)
[10:14] <liran> MrPockets, yeah what about gaim?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: which media player/ skin is that in your screenshot ?
[10:14] <MrPockets> i was dickng around with it and im dwondering if someone can send me a message
[10:14] <MrPockets> no ones on at 3:00 in the mornng
[10:14] <MrPockets> names N915AA
[10:14] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  mplayer/sessene
[10:15] <kemik> Ronan:  not sure whats gone wrong there
[10:15] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: ah - thanks :)
[10:15] <Ronan> kemik, In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:15] <Ronan>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:15] <kemik> Ronan:   are you sure its /dev/hda1 and not hda2/3/4 etc ?
[10:16] <Ronan> kemik, oh wait, shit. I don't know where it is, SHOULD it be /dev/hda1 ?
[10:16] <EdLin> kemik, "sudo fdisk -l" to find out
[10:16] <EdLin> er, make that fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:16] <eliphas_> morning
[10:16] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  you should see my jornada ;)
[10:16] <Ronan> kemik, yeah /dev/hda1
[10:17] <kemik> Ronan:  fdisk told you that ?
[10:17] <kemik> hmm
[10:17] <Ronan> kemik, nah, i found it with my file browser thing.
[10:17] <kemik> Ronan:  that's not necessarily the right one
[10:17] <kemik> Ronan:  use the stuff EdLin told me about
[10:18] <Ronan> Cannot open /dev/hda
[10:18] <kemik> sudo
[10:18] <EdLin> Ronan, you need to use sudo
[10:18] <Ronan> ah
[10:18] <Ronan> Disk /dev/hda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:18] <Ronan> ,
[10:18] <ernie> thanks budluva
[10:18] <ernie> :-)
[10:19] <Ronan> Disk /dev/hda2: 79.9 GB, 79941496320 bytes
[10:19] <Ronan> 
[10:19] <Ronan> Disk /dev/hda2 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[10:19] <Ronan> :-(
[10:19] <EdLin> Ronan, don't specify the partition, use the device for the whole disk, /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, etc. No numbers
[10:20] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: what is a jornada
[10:20] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: and when can i see it?
[10:20] <oggle> man every nick is registed
[10:20] <oggle> registered*
[10:20] <Ronan> edlin, it says it's Linux. then there's a Linux LVM
[10:20] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  it's a windows ce 2.11 powered handheld computer. and im uploading a screenshot now
[10:21] <osfameron> mornin' all :-)
[10:21] <kemik> Ronan:  paste it on pastebin
[10:21] <kemik> !pate
[10:21] <ubotu> kemik: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:21] <kemik> !paste
[10:21] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: haha okay
[10:21] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:21] <oggle> hey what gui ftp based program do you guys recommend for kde?
[10:21] <EdLin> Ronan, yes, that's the sort of information you'll find.
[10:21] <PurpleMotion> I use gftp
[10:21] <Ronan> pastebin?
[10:21] <goldenfox> kftp?
[10:21] <Ronan> kemik, pastebin?
[10:21] <PurpleMotion> i dont think there IS a kftp, heh
[10:21] <oggle> oh ok
[10:21] <oggle> gftp will do
[10:22] <goldenfox> :)
[10:22] <thoreauputic> you can use konqueror as an ftp client
[10:22] <kemik> getting gftp to use ssl is a b*thc
[10:22] <goldenfox> huh?
[10:22] <PurpleMotion> i dont like konquerors ftp setup
[10:22] <goldenfox> help!!! i'm stuck
[10:23] <goldenfox> i cant change the video resolution... anybody?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: I wasn't recommending it - merely saying it was usable :)
[10:24] <goldenfox> anyone?
[10:24] <goldenfox> video settings problem here.
[10:24] <PurpleMotion> true
[10:24] <kemik> thoreauputic:  im guessing that cant be too often :P
[10:24] <EdLin> goldenfox, what problem are you having?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> kemik: true :)
[10:25] <goldenfox> EdLin: I can't change screen resolution
[10:25] <hardkaare> How can I get the newest totem installed???
[10:25] <Ronan> kemik, if i change the order of the hdd boots in BIOS, will hda become hdb?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> kemik: but lftp is surprisingly powerful and easy
[10:25] <EdLin> goldenfox, you'll need to do that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf then restart X
[10:25] <goldenfox> i did EdLin. but got no luck
[10:25] <EdLin> goldenfox, the first resolution listed will be the default
[10:26] <goldenfox> ok
[10:26] <PurpleMotion> skalpel, all: My H/PC: http://www.daede.com/Jornada690.jpg
[10:26] <Ronan> EdLin, if i change the order of the hdd boots in BIOS, will hda become hdb?
[10:26] <goldenfox> how can i change that?
[10:26] <EdLin> Ronan, I don't know
[10:27] <EdLin> Ronan, I don't think so
[10:27] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: very cool
[10:27] <EdLin> goldenfox, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:27] <Ronan> edlin, okay good.
[10:27] <goldenfox> EdLin: is there any other alternative aside editing that file?
[10:27] <Ronan> edlin, then why does fdisk say all my partitiotns, on both drives are Linux.
[10:28] <EdLin> Ronan, actually, I suspect changing the boot order won't change anything, the disk device is determined by controller + master/slave
[10:28] <Ronan> edlin, Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, thanks.
[10:29] <EdLin> goldenfox, not that I know of.
[10:29] <EdLin> goldenfox, you could run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to change it in a menu-driven program.
[10:29] <goldenfox> EdLin: I cant change resolution in the >>System>>Change Resolution Preference. It only displays a 640x480 res
[10:30] <EdLin> goldenfox, what video driver is listed?
[10:30] <younes> hi
[10:30] <younes> in which package we can find stdc++ library ?
[10:30] <younes> please
[10:30] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  it's got a Hitachi Super-H SH3 133MHz RiSC processor, 32MB built in memory, a 56K (flex) modem, a 16bpp 640x240 active-tft touchscreen display, a 72 key keyboard, a standard pcmcia slot, a compact flash type i & ii slot (with a 35x 256MB CFdisk), infrared port, serial connection port, docking station, and WinCE 2.11 fully complimented
[10:30] <goldenfox> EdLin: its nvidia
[10:31] <PurpleMotion> oh and it runs (with active use) for eight hours on a charge (no moving parts)
[10:31] <EdLin> younes, "apt-cache search stdc++" will help you.
[10:31] <EdLin> goldenfox, do you get the splash screen?
[10:32] <goldenfox> EdLin: yep i a splash screen
[10:32] <EdLin> goldenfox, how does glxgears work?
[10:32] <younes> thank you, Edlin ;)
[10:33] <PurpleMotion> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[10:33] <PurpleMotion> 535 frames in 5.0 seconds = 107.000 FPS
[10:33] <PurpleMotion> 557 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.400 FPS
[10:33] <PurpleMotion> heh
[10:33] <PurpleMotion> but that was fgl_glxgears
[10:33] <sn0n> whos using gaim ?
[10:33] <PurpleMotion> I use gaim (not in irc though)
[10:33] <jtan325> i do
[10:33] <sn0n> i have a silly Q,.. WTF does the Nautiuls plugin do
[10:34] <PurpleMotion> who knows
[10:34] <sn0n> Nautilus Integration 0.2
[10:34] <sn0n> Provides integration with Nautilus
[10:34] <EdLin> goldenfox, is your monitor detected properly? If not you might want to specify the scan rates in xorg.conf as found in your owner's manual or on the web.
[10:34] <PurpleMotion> i dont use gnome ;)
[10:34] <sn0n> weird.
[10:34] <sn0n> !google Nautilus Integration gaim
[10:34] <ubotu> sn0n: I don't know
[10:34] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: install linux :)
[10:34] <killahkosha> Wow, this is perfect, the only game I play on the PC happens to be one of the few games for Linux :)
[10:35] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, not using GNOME in Ubuntu is kind of strange. ;-)
[10:35] <sn0n> oo
[10:35] <sn0n> nice!!!!
[10:35] <sn0n> Send To
[10:35] <sn0n> so you can right click a file
[10:35] <sn0n> and send to
[10:35] <thoreauputic> EdLin: not really
[10:35] <sn0n> a IM buddy
[10:35] <sn0n> nice
[10:35] <goldenfox> EdLin: okay. thanks. :)
[10:35] <EdLin> sn0n, "enter" is not punctuation
[10:35] <thoreauputic> EdLin: I use fluxbox, KDE, Gnome and xfce4 as the mood takes me ;)
[10:36] <killahkosha> Haha wow, xfce4
[10:36] <killahkosha> bleh
[10:36] <sn0n> EdLin, neither is a stick up your ass.. whats ur point?
[10:36] <killahkosha> I remember using that, itw as just so bleh
[10:36] <killahkosha> fluxbox though :)
[10:36] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  I did, and I'm VERY active with the jlime people (I'm in #jlime right now), but I need my H/PC to be productive, and right now, linux is not very productive on the jornada.. there are a LOT of power management functions that need to be implemented in the kernel first (sleep/suspend) for the 6xx series.. see, WinCE is embedded into a ROM ont he device... every time I power down from linux, I have to go back through the w
[10:36] <PurpleMotion> inCE setup and then run the boot loader again to get to linux (cause linux erases all wince data in memory when it loads)
[10:36] <PurpleMotion> as it stands, it's a real pain in the ass
[10:36] <thoreauputic> killahkosha: I used to dislike xfce - but xfce4 is quite good
[10:36] <EdLin> sn0n, the point is when you do that you flood the channel.
[10:37] <srijith> thoreauputic, quick question, which version of fluxbox?
[10:37] <sn0n> and it happens quite often.. whats ur point? everyone does it.. and its not like its 'busy hour' in here right now.
[10:37] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  KDE in Ubuntu us perfectly normal, it's called kubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <thoreauputic> srijith: currently 0.9.12
[10:38] <killahkosha> Gnome is perfect for me, fast and minimalistic :)
[10:38] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, true.
[10:38] <srijith> thoreauputic, did you compile it yourself? synaptic version shows 0.9.11
[10:38] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  when a kernel is released that supports the jornada's native apm, i'll run linux on it 24/7
[10:38] <thoreauputic> srijith: I did indeed :)
[10:38] <skalpel> PurpleMotion: i will be very proud of you, too
[10:38] <r2d4> I have ATI Radeon 9600. Doesn't seem to work (Tux Racer crawls). Any suggestions. Does anyone have this card working?
[10:38] <killahkosha> Wow, Enemy Territory actually gets the same fps as the Windows version does :)
[10:38] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, part of what makes Ubuntu special though is the GNOME (and KDE) features it has that other distros don't. If you're running fluxbox on Ubuntu all the time you might as well use vanilla Debian.
[10:39] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  I installed linux on it last night to check out a new userland.. very nice, it was.. sped things up considerably
[10:39] <jiggafellz> what file system should i use for the partition to which i am installing ubuntu?
[10:39] <srijith> thoreauputic, how easy is it to get the whole compile+install from soucre right? I was planning to get to 0.9.13 and just putting it off because of fear of too many breaks
[10:40] <EdLin> jiggafellz, ext3 is pretty rock-solid.
[10:40] <thoreauputic> srijith: you just need xlibs-dev I think
[10:40] <jiggafellz> ty
[10:40] <ATI_RAGE_> thoreauputic, definately stay away from 2.6.11
[10:40] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  except the maintenance on debian is horrific to put it mildly.. I use K/Ubuntu for two main reasons, 1) it's updated on a regular schedule, and 2) the people in this channel right here
[10:40] <srijith> thoreauputic: is it as simple as uninstalling 0.9.11 and following the process laid out in the source's README/INSTALL?
[10:40] <killahkosha> Ok, I have everything running perfectly, how bout a good site to get Gnome themes?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> srijith: I used checkinstall to make a deb
[10:40] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  even ubuntu's xfce system is updated more than debians
[10:40] <PurpleMotion> heh
[10:41] <PurpleMotion> but im running kde
[10:41] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  you see my screenshots?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> srijith: the ubuntu version has a bug that is fixed by using --disable-xmb in ./configure
[10:41] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, no, what's the URL?
[10:41] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks, am from FC world, so slowly getting the hang of debian, ubuntu package system.
[10:41] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg && http://www.daede.com/Jornada690.jpg
[10:41] <thoreauputic> srijith: I recommend using checkinstall
[10:41] <PurpleMotion> that's what *I* did with ubuntu :)
[10:42] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  #debian is horrible
[10:42] <scrawny1> hey guys dumb question for ya's
[10:42] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  here, here!
[10:42] <srijith> thoreauputic: I need to first find out what the efff is checkinstall :)
[10:42] <scrawny1> when is X-chat getting updated to 2.4.4 for ubuntu?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> srijith: it doesn't make a "debianised" .deb but it is fine for local install
[10:42] <thoreauputic> srijith: apt-cache show checkinstall :)
[10:43] <TPC> ok, I installed a game from debian because the ubuntu ones were outdated. when I added them with dpkg it complained about some dependency about a font that ubuntu didn't have, but I added it anyway using dpkg --force. the game works fine no problems at all.
[10:43] <Rayen> hi, a friend of mine has a problem with his keyboard. It works fine in X , but when he opens up a Terminal or goes to Console, he can't type anything, (only the ENTER button responds). His keyboard is a Logitech Internet Keyboard and he tryed to several keyboards on it, without result! Does someone know how he could fix this problem?
[10:43] <TPC> but when I try to apt-get upgrade now it complains about the missing font
[10:43] <pef> hi
[10:44] <TPC> I don't want to uninstall the game because it works fine
[10:44] <PurpleMotion> why not just install the font
[10:44] <TPC> is there anything I can do?
[10:44] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, nice screenies
[10:44] <kemik> TPC:  just ignore it ? or install the font if you find it somewhere
[10:44] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  tyvm
[10:44] <TPC> kemik, I can't ignore it because it won't let me dist-upgrade before I do apt-get -f install, and that uninstalls the game
[10:44] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks.. so all I need to rember when compiling is the " --disable-xmb", and it should be smooth sailing? :)
[10:44] <scrawny1> yeah this is what I love being ignored in a help channel
[10:44] <killahkosha> How do I just install this .deb file that I downloaded?
[10:45] <TPC> but I guess debian would have the font in their respitories
[10:45] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  I've since changed window decorations to something a little flatter that matches the schema a little better, but other than that, it's my current desktop
[10:45] <thoreauputic> srijith: yes but you probably also want --enable-kde and --enable-gnome
[10:45] <srijith> no kde for me, so just gnome..
[10:46] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, I'm just using clearlooks with a background from gnome-backgrounds.
[10:46] <thoreauputic> srijith: you will also need to make a fluxbox.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions if you want an entry in gdm for the session
[10:47] <srijith> thoreauputic: isnt it already there since I am using 0.9.11?
[10:47] <srijith> yup .. it is there
[10:47] <thoreauputic> srijith: no - it will point to the wrong place
[10:47] <PurpleMotion> EdLin:  clearlooks is pretty
[10:47] <PurpleMotion> i like it a lot
[10:48] <thoreauputic> srijith: you should put your compiled apps in /usr/local, not /usr/
[10:48] <srijith> thoreauputic: wrong location of what? the  fluxbox exe?
[10:48] <EdLin> PurpleMotion, me too. :)
[10:48] <thoreauputic> srijith: see above
[10:48] <srijith> haa ok
[10:49] <thoreauputic> srijith: the Exec line will point at /usr/local/bin/startfluxbox or whatever script you prefer to use to launch fluxbox
[10:49] <PurpleMotion> Okay, I've definately settled on a window deco
[10:49] <PurpleMotion> Web fits this scheme _perfectly_
[10:51] <thoreauputic> srijith: of course if you prefer you can use ~/.xsession and choose the system session from gdm
[10:51] <srijith> thoreauputic: yup, that is possible too..
[10:52] <thoreauputic> srijith: good fluxbox docs at http://fluxbox.org
[10:53] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks, have gone through them and have a pretty nifty minimalistic setup for myself
[10:53] <thoreauputic> srijith: :)
[10:54] <PurpleMotion> okay, lemme take new screenshots :)
[10:56] <PurpleMotion> you people suddenly got quiet
[10:56] <erchache> hi
[10:57] <erchache> im trying to make a raid0 with 2 sata disk and when formatting appears
[10:57] <erchache> Could not stat /dev/md/0p1
[10:57] <erchache> any can help me?
[10:57] <PurpleMotion> dont know anything about raid, m8.. sorry
[10:58] <PurpleMotion> brb
[10:58] <root> bue
[11:02] <jiggafellz> ok, i've created an Ext3 partition. it doesn't seem to have a drive letter. should i use \\.\disk2.part2\ as the install location?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> jiggafellz: erm... this isn't windows...
[11:05] <jiggafellz> i know
[11:05] <jiggafellz> i am tryin got install.  : |
[11:05] <jiggafellz> trying to*
[11:05] <mlacage_> hello. I know some people have likely asked this question too often but I can't get that stupid NetworkManager package to work on breezy
[11:05] <jiggafellz> this is a help channel isn;t it?
[11:06] <mlacage_> it seems it starts and stops immediately
[11:06] <libanes> i need to left kde in spanish
[11:06] <libanes> i need to install something?
[11:06] <killahkosha> Wow the Nvidia optimization guide REALLY helped, went from 6000fps or so in glxgears to 9800fps
[11:06] <libanes> thoreauputic,
[11:07] <recover> Hi! Is there any way I can install ubuntu with a floppy? My CD drive is broken
[11:09] <thoreauputic> libanes:  /join #ubuntu-es  perhaps?
[11:09] <libanes> am there but anyone anwer
[11:10] <selinium> hi all, anyone know of a decent command line audio convertor? IE FLAC to Ogg?
[11:10] <selinium> libanes: what the problem?
[11:10] <skalpel> what plugins do i need for totem to play .mov files?
[11:10] <libanes> i need kde in spanish
[11:11] <selinium> libanes: /j #ubuntu-es  they should be able to help!
[11:11] <thoreauputic> libanes:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales  perhaps - but ask in the spanish channel
[11:12] <selinium> hi thoreauputic
[11:12] <thoreauputic> hi selinium :)
[11:12] <skalpel> can someone tell me why mozilla-mplayer is so goddamn slow?
[11:13] <libanes> i need something like this koffice-i18n-es but for kde
[11:14] <libanes> meaby apt-get install kde-i18n-es
[11:14] <libanes> yessss im right :D
[11:14] <libanes> that works :D
[11:14] <libanes> hahahaha lol
[11:15] <selinium> skalpel: I dont find it slow... No slower the Media Player anyway.
[11:15] <thoreauputic> libanes: by the way, for KDE questions  a better channel is #kubuntu :)
[11:16] <libanes> thanks dude
[11:16] <ompaul> piracy@microsoft.com is great for that
[11:16] <jiggafellz> recommended mount point?
[11:16] <deufo> hi peeps, which dm do i use with xfce?
[11:17] <Uthini> guys, if my machine runs, freezes, and then gives a 2-tone beep (hi-lo) is the motherboard dead? or the CPU?
[11:17] <thoreauputic> deufo: doesn't really matter - most would probably use gdm
[11:17] <eliphas_> i heard the xfce +gnone-panel is smooth
[11:17] <deufo> thoreauputic, but i am going to do apt-get remove gnome* after installing xfce
[11:17] <selinium> Uthini: Google sytem beeps
[11:18] <Uthini> selinium: the system beep info i found indicates motherboard failure
[11:18] <thoreauputic> deufo: you could use xdm or wdm I suppose (both are ugly IMO)
[11:18] <deufo> btw, is it better to get xfce 4.2 through apt or by their installer
[11:18] <Uthini> waht i would like to know is why i can time an egg to the mainboard failure
[11:19] <thoreauputic> deufo: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[11:19] <deufo> thoreauputic, btw, how do i get suspend to work on xfce
[11:19] <eliphas_> don't remove gnome by the way
[11:19] <thoreauputic> deufo: no idea, sorry
[11:19] <eliphas_> or you will loose some dependencies
[11:20] <thoreauputic> deufo: xfce4 uses a lot of gtk2 stuff, so you would need that
[11:21] <selinium> Uthini: you are off topic here, this is a ubuntu channel not a hardware one.
[11:21] <deufo> thoreauputic,
[11:21] <deufo> thoreauputic, ty
[11:21] <deufo> eliphas_,  icic
[11:21] <thoreauputic> deufo: no problem :)
[11:21] <deufo> eliphas_,  u use xfce?
[11:22] <eliphas_> yes
[11:22] <deufo> eliphas_,  u can use hibernate?
[11:22] <eliphas_> I use xfce on my laptop
[11:23] <deufo> eliphas_,  so did u have to get a custom kernel and put suspend2 in it or did u find some other way?
[11:23] <eliphas_> i don't custom at all
[11:23] <eliphas_> cause I use for work
[11:23] <deufo> eliphas_,  so u have suspend?
[11:23] <eliphas_> yes
[11:23] <selinium> hi all, anyone know of a decent command line audio convertor? IE FLAC to Ogg?
[11:23] <eliphas_> to save my batteries
[11:24] <eliphas_> everthing works fine
[11:24] <eliphas_> that's why i choose ubuntu
[11:24] <deufo> eliphas_,  how? last time i got xfce, there was no suspend
[11:24] <eliphas_> ecveyrhing is recognized a pleasure
[11:24] <thoreauputic> selinium: does sox do flac? Not sure...
[11:24] <eliphas_> like i said don't get rid of gnome
[11:25] <selinium> thoreauputic: I'll have a look, cheers
[11:25] <deufo> eliphas_,  icic, so i did u get  with apt or installer?
[11:25] <eliphas_> i don't know my laptop just got off by it self
[11:25] <eliphas_> apt
[11:25] <eliphas_> I do only apt
[11:25] <eliphas_> then I am sure software have been stressed
[11:25] <h_oLmes> :)
[11:26] <skalpel> can someone tell me where to find gstreamer-lame?<
[11:26] <deufo> eliphas_, so if u dun remove gnome, there'll be a hibernate option in xfce?
[11:26] <eliphas_> like I said it is my toolsofr work I can't afford to moose stuff and moose time to recalibrate
[11:26] <thoreauputic> skalpel: hmmm - multiverse I think
[11:26] <PurpleMotion> okay
[11:26] <eliphas_> use the gnome-panel upon xfce
[11:27] <PurpleMotion> new screenshot (I'm actually satisfied with this one): http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg
[11:27] <skalpel> thoreauputic: nah i cannot find it anywhere in the repositories
[11:27] <thoreauputic> skalpel: look for gstreamer0.8-lame
[11:27] <tofirius> hello everyone...
[11:28] <tofirius> i need to know where to add a command that will run after gnome loads
[11:28] <tofirius> can anyone help?
[11:28] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> session
[11:28] <thoreauputic> skalpel: ah, it's in hoary-extras
[11:28] <Seveas> ^-- tofirius
[11:28] <deufo> eliphas_, i'm kind of confused, so u run gnome-panel in xfce?
[11:28] <tofirius> aha... great! thanks!
[11:29] <selinium> skalpel:  /msg ubotu repos    type that in here
[11:29] <eliphas_> why not ?
[11:29] <deufo> eliphas_, then why run xfce and not xfce?
[11:29] <eliphas_> ?!
[11:30] <PurpleMotion> Seveas:  see my new screenshot, m8?
[11:30] <tofirius> seveas... thank you!
[11:30] <eliphas_> gnome to greedy in ressource then I use xfce +gnome_panel upon it
[11:30] <deufo> eliphas_, isn't there a menu in xfce?
[11:30] <selinium> thoreauputic: Damn, it does every file except flac!
[11:31] <eliphas_> yeah but i too lazy to get the menu from gnome into xfce
[11:31] <Seveas> PurpleMotion, the top right window of that is scary
[11:31] <thoreauputic> selinium: hrm - you tried apt-cache search flac | grep convert or something ?
[11:31] <PurpleMotion> Seveas:  aye, tis why i put it in as an afterthought ;)
[11:31] <kasz> hi guys, i just installed xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control in the hopes of getting my ati radeon 9600 card working with 3d acceleration, but it doesnt seem to be working
[11:31] <thoreauputic> selinium: scratch that
[11:31] <PurpleMotion> but it runs flawlessly
[11:31] <deufo> eliphas_, so wat u do with the xfce one?
[11:32] <selinium> thoreauputic: Not that good with grep yet, me. :P
[11:32] <eliphas_> i have it at the bottm
[11:32] <eliphas_> when gnome-panel is at the top
[11:32] <eliphas_> :)
[11:32] <eliphas_> and when i don't need it i kill it
[11:32] <deufo> eliphas_, icic, ty, btw so u put gnome-panel in ur .login rite?
[11:32] <alie> how to stop X server
[11:32] <killahkosha> I followed the directions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeComputerMenu for adding hard drives to be mounted. Well when I got to typing "mount -a" an error returned was "mount: mount point /mnt/hdd does not exist"
[11:32] <eliphas_> no I call it when i need it
[11:33] <alie> when i click ctrl + alt + backspace
[11:33] <deufo> eliphas_, thx man
[11:33] <alie> it restarts
[11:33] <eliphas_> np
[11:33] <eliphas_> you just type gnome-panel
[11:33] <eliphas_> ok he is gone
[11:33] <Seveas> kasz, you will need to edit xorg.conf too
[11:33] <alie> how to stop X server  when i click ctrl + alt + backspace   it restarts
[11:34] <Loki_VA> hi people
[11:34] <anacron> what 'bout others than humans?
[11:34] <thoreauputic> selinium:  http://soundconverter.berlios.de/
[11:34] <Loki_VA> Is ubuntu a wise choice as a server?
[11:34] <thoreauputic> selinium: pretty easy to install IIRC
[11:34] <kasz> Seveas, do you know which driver to use? i am using the ati driver at the moment. i know nvidea has seperate drivers for 3d acceleration, but no idea about ati...
[11:35] <alie> how to stop X server  when i click ctrl + alt + backspace   it restarts
[11:35] <selinium> thoreauputic: Cheers fella, your a star!
[11:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: :)
[11:36] <PurpleMotion> alie:  ctrl-alt-f1, login as yourself, then type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:36] <PurpleMotion> alie:  then alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:36] <selinium> threauputic: Right i have not compiled anything from source before. Do you mind walking me trough it?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> selinium: you have build-essential installed?
[11:37] <biochemza> with desktop switching, I thought I could set the different desktops with different background images, but this doesn't appear to be the case in Ubuntu... am I doing something wrong or is there a setting I haven't switched on?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> selinium: I also suggest you install "checkinstall"
[11:38] <Sonderblade> how do you get non-ascii characters on windows shares to show up correctly in ubuntu?
[11:39] <PurpleMotion> selinium:  it's a rite of passage as a *nix user :) USUALLY, it requires 5 steps: 1) unpack the tarball (USUALLY tar zxfv your.file.tar.gz), 2) cd to that directory (cd directory-created-by-tarball), 3) ./configure 4) make 5) sudo make install
[11:40] <selinium> threauputic: Ok both packages present and correct!
[11:41] <selinium> PurpleMotion: Cheers for the pointer.
[11:41] <thoreauputic> selinium: as PurpleMotion says, next step is to unpack it
[11:41] <selinium> PurpleMotion: Anywhere?
[11:41] <PurpleMotion> *I* make a src dir in $HOME
[11:41] <vagamente> hi all...
[11:41] <PurpleMotion> but thats just me
[11:42] <selinium> PurpleMotion: Not a bad idea!
[11:42] <thoreauputic> selinium: the only thing you would change in his instructions is to use "sudo checkinstall" instead of "make install" if you want to make a deb
[11:42] <vagamente> does anyone know a good site where i could find a list of musical software for ubuntu????
[11:42] <PurpleMotion> oh he's making a deb
[11:42] <PurpleMotion> ewps
[11:42] <biochemza> vagamente: search for it in your Package Manager
[11:42] <PurpleMotion> i always forget to do that and just install :D
[11:42] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: no biggy - just my recommedation
[11:42] <biochemza> vagamente: I recommed XMMS
[11:43] <PurpleMotion> well, making a deb makes it a hell of a lot easier to manage
[11:43] <[RedWire] > everyone recommends XMMS, best there is :)
[11:43] <biochemza> Question about desktop switching - I thought I could set the different desktops with different background images, but this doesn't appear to be the case in Ubuntu... am I doing something wrong or is there a setting I haven't switched on?
[11:43] <anacron> beep-player is good too
[11:43] <Seveas> bmp rocks
[11:43] <thoreauputic> selinium: if ./configure complains about missing libraries, you need the -dev versions
[11:43] <anacron> but it doesn't support as many types as xmms as default
[11:44] <anacron> ... was that even some language
[11:44] <thoreauputic> biochemza: I don't think you can do that in gnome
[11:44] <biochemza> thoreauputic: ah... bummer, thanks
[11:44] <PurpleMotion> hrmm
[11:44] <PurpleMotion> i should install partition magic and see if i can resize this fscking partition with it
[11:44] <biochemza> anyone here use xmule? the program keeps hanging on me
[11:45] <vagamente> biochemza: sorry... i meant a list of software like sequencer, recoder, drum machine... stuff like that...
[11:45] <thoreauputic> biochemza: someone has probably made a gizmo to do it - I would google for it or visit gnome-files.org
[11:45] <biochemza> vagamente: ah.... mmm, search for those keywords in the Package manager :)
[11:47] <selinium> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: You cd into the folder then ./configure  ?  I got   ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:47] <thoreauputic> selinium: try "make" then
[11:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: actually it appears to be a python app
[11:48] <PurpleMotion> so you
[11:48] <selinium> thoreauputic: oh yeah..
[11:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: ah, possibly no install step either - not sure about that
[11:48] <PurpleMotion> python setup.py install
[11:49] <thoreauputic> aha
[11:49] <Lever> choy... I did bad.
[11:49] <selinium> PurpleMotion: in the file? :) sorry to be a pain!
[11:49] <Lever> Apparently libc6 is a very central package to the distrib...
[11:50] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: there's no setup file
[11:50] <PurpleMotion> oh
[11:50] <PurpleMotion> wtf is he installing? bobs python app? heh
[11:50] <selinium> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: There is a make file
[11:50] <thoreauputic> selinium: did "make" complete without error?
[11:50] <selinium> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: Didn't get a chance to try! :)
[11:50] <PurpleMotion> you're beyond me now ;) I'm sure i could do it if i could see the package
[11:50] <eliphas_> vagamente-> you have Studio to Go! but it is not free software
[11:50] <selinium> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: Doing it now!
[11:51] <robin_> I don't have a laptop, but I want to use suspend-to-ram (for my HTPC). If I use "echo mem > /sys/power/state", it complains that some tasks won't stop, so I just stop them manualy. But it won't go to sleep. dmesg says "restarting tasks.." imediatly after going to suspend. Hmm, what am I doing wrong.
[11:51] <selinium> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: yeah it's a bit weird - but it worked when I tried it - it was a while ago though...
[11:51] <Lever> I upgraded libc6 to another version(from debian), and now I can't install things with apt, since they depend on a previous version of libc6... How can I fix this? Forcably install an older version?
[11:51] <thoreauputic> bah
[11:51] <Seveas> Lever, libc6 is the second-most inportant thing
[11:51] <Seveas> you should not fiddle with it.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> selinium: read the README file in the dir
[11:51] <Lever> yeah.. live and learn :/
[11:52] <PurpleMotion> brb, folks.. installing PM in my 98 VM.... gonna see if i can resize this friggen partition
[11:52] <Lever> Am I totally screwed?
[11:52] <Seveas> did you only update libc6 or also other things from debiam?
[11:52] <[RedWire] > oh please telling a linux user not to fiddle with something is like saying don't think of elephants :)
[11:52] <Lever> well.. may I pm you Seveas? I'll explain what I did
[11:52] <Seveas> ok
[11:53] <Seveas> [RedWire] , don't think of elephants :)
[11:53] <[RedWire] > hehe
[11:53] <thoreauputic> selinium: /msg me - I need to see what's in the Directory
[11:53] <selinium> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: make: LOL that reads liek gibberish to me !
[11:54] <selinium> (you'll have to replace LANG with the appropriate 2 letters country code)
[11:54] <selinium> 
[11:54] <selinium> 1. create or update pot file:
[11:54] <selinium> xgettext ../soundconverter.py ../soundconverter.glade -o soundconverter.pot
[11:54] <selinium> 2. create po file for a new language:
[11:54] <selinium> cp soundconverter.pot LANG.po
[11:54] <selinium> or update a po file:
[11:54] <selinium> msgmerge -U LANG.po soundconverter.pot
[11:54] <selinium> 3. edit the po file with your favorite po editor (gtranslator, kbabel, ...).
[11:54] <selinium> 4. create and install the binary mo file:
[11:54] <robin_> I don't have a laptop, but I want to use suspend-to-ram (for my HTPC). If I use "echo mem > /sys/power/state", it complains that some tasks won't stop, so I just stop them manualy. But it won't go to sleep. dmesg says "restarting tasks.." imediatly after going to suspend. Hmm, what am I doing wrong.
[11:54] <selinium> msgfmt LANG.po -o soundconverter_LANG.mo
[11:54] <Seveas> selinium, pasting is not allowed....
[11:55] <Ronan> Once I install something, How do I get it in the "applications" menu?
[11:56] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I know what he did - he tried to send output with the /msg command and it spilled into the channel
[11:56] <bimberi> Ronan: some apps don't put entries in the menu automatically - if that's the case you can use "smeg" to create one ...
[11:56] <bimberi> !smeg
[11:57] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[11:57] <Ronan> Thanks a ton.
[11:57] <Ronan> Also, when I click links, my browser doesn't open them automatically. How can I fix this?
[11:57] <bimberi> yw :)
[11:57] <Seveas> selinium, on a completely different subject: I finished backporting gammu/wammu
[11:57] <selinium> Seveas: sorry, i know that it should of gone through /msg
[11:58] <selinium> Seveas, cool!
[11:58] <onno> how can I install pfm fonts?
[11:58] <bimberi> Ronan: xchat?
[11:58] <Ronan> Bimberi, yep.
[11:58] <onno> do they work on GNU/Linux
[11:58] <Seveas> selinium, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/
[11:59] <selinium> Seveas: Cheers, i'll gett it now! :)
[11:59] <bimberi> Ronan: AFAIK you can only right-click -> Mozilla Firefox -> Open In...
[11:59] <gftp> hi. i did intall limewire. however when i click at icons... nothing happen... can anybody asis me
[11:59] <bimberi> Ronan: but others may know better :)
[11:59] <Ronan> bimberi, heh, thanks. :)
[12:01] <stjepan> hello
[12:01] <stjepan> I wrote bash script to set wlan adsl
[12:01] <stjepan> how can I let it execute on boot?
[12:02] <bimberi> stjepan: you could add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:02] <Ronan> bimberi, This is weird. The .deb came with a binary and two other files. What do I do with them?
[12:02] <tomaj> is there a way to add ntfs writing without recompiling kernel? module maybe?
[12:02] <stjepan> bimberi: are you sure?
[12:02] <stjepan> :)
[12:02] <robin_> _please_ could someone point me how to go in suspend-to-ram ?
[12:03] <bimberi> stjepan: never :)
[12:03] <stjepan> so what should I do?
[12:03] <bimberi> Ronan: iirc one of the files is a script to be run
[12:03] <bimberi> stjepan: try it and see if it works :)
[12:04] <stjepan> huh
[12:04] <Ronan> bimberi excuse me? :x
[12:05] <bimberi> stjepan: sorry if I'm not being clear.  Edit that file to call your script
[12:05] <robin_> I need to go to suspend-to-ram from the console. Not with GNOME.
[12:06] <bimberi> Ronan: are you looking at the deb with the file archiver?
[12:07] <Ronan> bimberi yep
[12:07] <Ronan> bimberi er, archive manager
[12:08] <bimberi> Ronan: ok, close that, open a terminal, navigate to the directory where you downloaded it and type "dpkg -i whater-its-called.deb"
[12:08] <Ronan> bimberi thanks
[12:08] <bimberi> Ronan: oops - make that "sudo dpkg..."
[12:08] <Ronan> bimberi of course :x
[12:09] <Ronan> bimberi Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:09] <Ronan>  smeg
[12:09] <Ronan> :/
[12:10] <bimberi> Ronan: ok - probably dependency issues?
[12:10] <Ronan> bimberi yeah
[12:10] <sampoo> i have a problem with a PS/2 mouse on Ubuntu 5.04
[12:11] <sampoo> i have a wireless USB mouse + keyboard of which i don't want to use the mouse
[12:11] <sampoo> so i use a normal PS/2 mouse instead
[12:11] <bimberi> Ronan: Try the installsmeg script instead from that website - the "this script" link
[12:11] <sampoo> on windows, everything works fine
[12:11] <Ronan> bimberi will try
[12:11] <sampoo> but not on ubuntu, the ps/2 mouse does not respond
[12:12] <sampoo> anyone an idea to get that mouse working?
[12:12] <killahkosha> Wow, my printer just...worked.
[12:12] <killahkosha> No messing around..
[12:12] <killahkosha> wow
[12:12] <killahkosha> that was...amaing
[12:12] <Ronan> Congradulations lol
[12:12] <killahkosha> amazing*
[12:12] <Ronan> old printer?
[12:12] <killahkosha> noah, newer one, but a cheapy one that relies on Windows to print
[12:12] <killahkosha> so I didn't expect it to work
[12:12] <Ronan> cool
[12:13] <killahkosha> so then I found this obscure driver and wasn't really looking forward to compiling and all that
[12:13] <killahkosha> and then i just went to the printer config thing
[12:13] <killahkosha> and ends up it had it preinstalled :)
[12:13] <Ronan> :D!
[12:13] <Seveas> killahkosha, hehe :)
[12:13] <bimberi> Hi killahkosha - good to hear something went smoothly for you :)
[12:14] <killahkosha> hehe yeah, i was very surprised, even easier than Windows :)
[12:14] <Ronan> I can never freaking download these scripts, they always show up as text.
[12:14] <bimberi> Ronan: Right click -> Save Link As
[12:14] <Ronan> It saves the HTML
[12:15] <Ronan> But I can do it, no worries.
[12:15] <bimberi> Ronan: k sorry :)
[12:16] <Ronan> bimberi, what do i run the file with though? Terminal?
[12:16] <bimberi> Ronan: yep
[12:16] <sampoo> is there someone here that has experience with xorg? (even a little might be helpful)
[12:16] <guillem> Anyone has experience with DVD-RAM?
[12:16] <Ronan> bimberi I get errors when I run it with terminal -.-'
[12:17] <bimberi> Ronan: paste them to a pastebin...
[12:17] <bimberi> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:17] <Ronan> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:18] <liable> paste screenshots?
[12:18] <bimberi> liable: yes, Seveas has been busy :)
[12:18] <zukalk> hey all
[12:19] <liable> bimberi: how do you do that?
[12:19] <Ronan> ronan@ubuntu:~$ sudo bash /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg
[12:19] <Ronan> /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg: line 2: import: command not found
[12:19] <Ronan> /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg: line 4: cmds: command not found
[12:19] <Ronan> /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[12:19] <Ronan> /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg: line 5: `    ('Getting files...', 'wget http://dev.realistanew.com/gnome-menus/libgnome-menu0_2.10.2-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb'),'
[12:19] <Ronan> er
[12:19] <Ronan> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1315
[12:20] <bimberi> Ronan: try "./installsmeg"
[12:20] <robin_> #join ubuntu-nl
[12:20] <robin_> oops
[12:20] <Ronan> bimberi sudo bash ./installsmeg
[12:20] <Ronan> bimberi ?
[12:21] <whitecat> anyone know a good app to read or convert .lit ebooks in ubuntu ?
[12:21] <bimberi> Ronan: no, just ./installsmeg
[12:21] <bimberi> Ronan: the script has sudo commands within
[12:21] <Ronan> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1315
[12:21] <Ronan> er
[12:21] <Ronan> bash: ./installsmeg: No such file or directory
[12:22] <Seveas> Ronan, sudo python installsmeg
[12:22] <bimberi> Ronan: apologies ...
[12:22] <Seveas> Ronan, and do not paste in here!
[12:22] <onno> how can I install pfm fonts? do the work on Ubuntu
[12:22] <Ronan> sorry :x
[12:22] <bimberi> Ronan: /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg
[12:22] <bimberi> Seveas: 'twas an accident
[12:22] <Ronan> bimberi says permission denied.
[12:22] <Seveas> bimberi, that's why I was polite :)
[12:23] <bimberi> Ronan: sudo python /home/ronan/Desktop/installsmeg
[12:23] <Seveas> Ronan, try sudo python ~/Desktop/installsmeg
[12:23] <Ronan> seveas yeah, thanks :D it's "getting files" :D
[12:23] <bimberi> Seveas: as ever :)
[12:23] <Ronan> bimberi Thanks :D
[12:24] <deufo> hi, i opened nautilus in xfce, now i can't open the menu by right clicking on the bg
[12:24] <deufo> anyone know how to fix?
[12:24] <bimberi> Ronan: yw - glad we got there :)
[12:25] <Ronan> bimberi :D, Now about mounting my other hard drive, LOL
[12:26] <thoreauputic> deufo: yeah, you need to edit the menu and put nautilus --no-desktop
[12:26] <bimberi> Ronan: tell us about your other drive :)
[12:26] <deufo> thoreauputic, so how i kill it, i can't right click on menu
[12:26] <tomaj> is there a way to add ntfs writing without recompiling kernel? module maybe?
[12:26] <Ronan> bimberi Well, It's all NTFS as far as I know, It's hda1, but fdisk -l says it's all Linux. I would like to mount it (i have music on there >_>)
[12:27] <thoreauputic> deufo: same thing happened to me - try ctrl-alt-F1 ; get a prompt ; killall nautilus
[12:27] <zukalk> wow, didn't know Galeon had mouse gestures..
[12:27] <bimberi> Ronan: Sounds like a job for ...
[12:27] <bimberi> !winmac_fstab
[12:27] <ubotu> from memory, winmac_fstab is A script that facilitates easy mounting of NTFS/FAT (Windows) and HFS+ (Mac) hard drives and partitions. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[12:27] <Ronan> bimberi I tried that. I
[12:28] <deufo> thoreauputic, that doesn't kill nething
[12:28] <skalpel> can someone tell me what this means? "/home/bonnie/...Ghost is Born" cannot be moved because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[12:28] <tomaj> skalpel it means that the file/folder probably has root as its owner
[12:28] <thoreauputic> deufo: or start a terminal from the dock/panel and type xkil, then use the mouse to zap the background
[12:28] <thoreauputic> deufo: sorry  xkill
[12:29] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[12:29] <robin_> _please_ could someone point me how to go in suspend-to-ram ?
[12:29] <robin_> I need to go to suspend-to-ram from the console. Not with GNOME.
[12:29] <tomaj> is there a way to add ntfs writing without recompiling kernel? module maybe?
[12:29] <dirty> ive added #ubuntu to the channels i log at www.badicalia.com, its a searchable url logger
[12:29] <Klaus_Dieter> I cannot start synaptic as root in X because it tells me that it cannot open the display for root.... what should I do here?
[12:29] <Klaus_Dieter> tomaj with captive there is
[12:29] <deufo> thoreauputic, nope
[12:29] <Ronan> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:29] <dirty> to who might be interested
[12:29] <mjr> *35*11
[12:30] <tomaj> Klaus_Dieter what's captive?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> deufo: bah - well if you don't mind zapping your session do a ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X
[12:30] <antix> will breezy be released in october? I think I'll wait with a shipit order in that case.. when are new cd:s with breezy expected?
[12:30] <deufo> thoreauputic, tried that as well
[12:31] <thoreauputic> deufo: no response?
[12:31] <Seveas> Klaus_Dieter, you should start synaptic as normal user with sudo synaptic
[12:31] <Ronan> bimberi http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1318
[12:31] <Cayamara> tomaj: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[12:31] <tomaj> thanks cayamara
[12:31] <Cayamara> tomaj: captive lets you use the ntfs drivers from windows
[12:31] <thoreauputic> deufo: can you hit the logout button on the dock?
[12:31] <deufo> thoreauputic, it kills x, but when i reboot and start xfce, theres still no right click menu
[12:31] <Jupiler> no
[12:31] <deufo> thoreauputic, yes
[12:32] <thoreauputic> deufo: oh, it's saving your session apparently
[12:32] <skalpel> is it safe to do chmod 777 -R /home
[12:32] <skalpel> as root?
[12:32] <deufo> thoreauputic, i tried rebooting and not saving session
[12:32] <thoreauputic> deufo: complete reboot and still the same?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> deufo: weird
[12:32] <deufo> thoreauputic, yep
[12:32] <thoreauputic> :(
[12:32] <tomaj> can you use captive without having write enabled in the kernel?
[12:32] <skalpel> thoreauputic: can you answer that question for me?
[12:33] <tomaj> skalpel
[12:33] <thoreauputic> skalpel: why would you do that?
[12:33] <deufo> skalpel, why would u want to do that
[12:33] <thoreauputic> skalpel: bad idea
[12:33] <skalpel> how do i undo it?
[12:33] <tomaj> a better way to do it would be to do chown on the individual folders for the respective users
[12:33] <skalpel> :)
[12:33] <deufo> skalpel, u normally do that to make something executable
[12:34] <skalpel> deufo: i just want read/write access between my users for all of their folders, so different users can ssh in and have access to other useres folders
[12:34] <thoreauputic> skalpel:  chmod 755 /home
[12:34] <bimberi> Ronan: fdisk -l says all Linux - it would seem that winmac_fstab agrees :|
[12:34] <joel1> hi
[12:34] <deufo> skalpel chmod 755 home
[12:34] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I want to convert all my file names from iso 8859-15 encoding into utf-8 encoding ! ; how can I proceed ? ; thanks
[12:35] <Ronan> bimberi Dear Hell. Don't tell me I erased everything......
[12:35] <deufo> skalpel, chmod a+rw /home
[12:35] <deufo> i think
[12:35] <Ronan> bimberi all my work, music, pictures, files, gah. Oh well.
[12:35] <thoreauputic> deufo: that's the same as 755
[12:35] <selinium> Seveas: are you about? I'm having some problems install gammu/wammu
[12:35] <Ronan> bimberi well, then how do I mount that linux drive? I had music on that too >_>
[12:36] <deufo> thoreauputic, i find that noobs are more comformatable with a+rw cuz they can actually understand it easier
[12:36] <thoreauputic> deufo: oops - yes you are right
[12:36] <bimberi> Ronan: pastebin the fdisk -l output
[12:36] <skalpel> deufo: thank you very much
[12:36] <tomaj> cayamara so does captive work without ntfs write in kernel?
[12:36] <deufo> thoreauputic, btw, in chmod, 1 is executable rite?
[12:36] <thoreauputic> deufo: yes
[12:37] <kemik> skalpel:  a+rwx i'd say
[12:37] <deufo> thoreauputic, so any tips on my problem, should i try and reinstall xfce?
[12:37] <Seveas> selinium, paste error messages in a private chat please
[12:37] <Seveas> and /msg Seveas the_err_msg will go wrong :)
[12:37] <selinium> Seveas: I'll try   :)
[12:37] <Seveas> so paste it in the actual window :)
[12:37] <kemik> Ronan:  got that NTFS partition mounted?
[12:37] <Cayamara> tomaj: it comes as a module i think
[12:38] <thoreauputic> deufo: no, maybe move your ~/.xfce stuff or whatever it is ( .config ? not sure )
[12:38] <Cayamara> tomaj: i tried it once but i didn't really get it to work
[12:38] <tomaj> so installing captive installs the appropriate module?
[12:38] <tomaj> ok
[12:38] <tomaj> i tried recompiling the kernel but i ran into errors that i couldnt fix for some reason
[12:38] <Cayamara> tomaj: it gives you the module captive-ntfs, which you use to mount your ntfs drive
[12:38] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I want to convert all my file names from iso 8859-15 encoding into utf-8 encoding ! ; how can I proceed ? ; thanks
[12:38] <tomaj> thanx cayamara
[12:39] <thoreauputic> deufo: hmm - ~/.config/xfce4-session  perhaps
[12:39] <Ronan> kemik nope
[12:39] <Cayamara> tomaj: but you have to have windows ntfs drivers i think, or a windows install on the drive
[12:39] <deufo> thoreauputic, nope, lol
[12:39] <Ronan> bimberi http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1319
[12:39] <kemik> skalpel:  you'll need "x" as well on the folders if you want your users to be able to access them
[12:39] <thoreauputic> deufo: nope as in "no good" or as in "can't find" ?
[12:40] <kemik> Ronan:  fdisk -l /dev/hdX didnt show any NTFS partitions??
[12:40] <deufo> thoreauputic, no good
[12:40] <Ronan> kemik nope
[12:40] <thoreauputic> deufo: there are a couple of xfce4 things in that dir
[12:40] <tsw> what should I say to cron-apt to automatically install updates? (yes I know its not the way to do updates, but this is just a client machine in a small webcafe)
[12:41] <deufo> thoreauputic, i remove it all
[12:41] <thoreauputic> deufo: and?
[12:41] <skalpel> kemik: oh, i thought that was foe executables?
[12:41] <Ronan> What's a good FTP?
[12:41] <skalpel> client or server?
[12:41] <Ronan> client
[12:41] <skalpel> ubuntu comes with gftp
[12:41] <deufo> thoreauputic, goes bak to the original one :D, never mind, i htink i'll go back to ratpoison for a little while
[12:41] <skalpel> i have used it
[12:42] <skalpel> i like it
[12:42] <Ronan> It does?
[12:42] <bimberi> Ronan: sudo mkdir /media/hda2 && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2
[12:42] <kemik> skalpel:  it is, but try to do "chmod a-x folder" and then "cd folder" you'll see what happends
[12:42] <Ronan> bimberi thanks
[12:42] <thoreauputic> deufo: this is a weird problem... seems more like a bug
[12:42] <deufo> thoreauputic, ty anywaz
[12:43] <thoreauputic> deufo: no worries - enjoy yourratpoison ;)
[12:43] <Ronan> bimberi say's it's already mounted or busy
[12:43] <kemik> Ronan:  "fuser /dev/hda2"
[12:43] <bimberi> Ronan: is it listed in the output of "df"
[12:43] <bimberi> ?
[12:43] <Ronan> nope
[12:44] <skalpel> kemik: i would rather not, i have it set right now, i believe. :)
[12:44] <sampoo> what device is the default PS/2 port identified with?
[12:44] <Ronan> kemik, i entered that and it didn't say/do anything.
[12:44] <mjr> 4
[12:44] <kemik> skalpel:  well, the command is reversible by "chmod a+x" ;)
[12:44] <mjr> oops
[12:44] <thoreauputic> kemik: umm - if you chmod a-x any folder you can't cd to it - you just removed the access bit
[12:45] <kemik> thoreauputic:  exactly ;)
[12:45] <skalpel> kemik: what is the a switch for?
[12:45] <kemik> skalpel:  all
[12:45] <socketbind> howdy, I made a tar file on reiserfs filesystem mounted with defaults, i would want to extract this tar on suse mounted with same options but I get garbled filenames:'(
[12:45] <bimberi> Ronan: yet another pastebin - the output of "df"
[12:46] <kemik> skalpel:  you have file access rights for "user, group, others"  (rwx, rwx, rwx.  if you try "ls -lha" youll see the filemask) "a" covers all those
[12:46] <Ronan> bimberi df?
[12:46] <Ronan> bimberi Oh.
[12:46] <thoreauputic> kemik: ah - sorry I missed part of the convo :)
[12:46] <thoreauputic> kemik: my bad ;)
[12:46] <kemik> no worries :)
[12:46] <skalpel> kemik: ok
[12:46] <Ronan> bimberi http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1320
[12:46] <skalpel> how can i change the colors of my files and dirs?
[12:47] <Fub> gnome menu's has suddenly stopped adding links to the programs I download through synaptic/apt does anyone know what might be wrong?
[12:47] <nightswim> LS_COLORS
[12:47] <nightswim> an environment variable
[12:48] <kemik> skalpel:  you can add the environment variable in your .bashrc and it'll be loaded automagically when you start new terminals etc
[12:48] <Ronan> Busy with what? :(
[12:48] <bimberi> Exactly
[12:49] <skalpel> kemik: you mean for the colors?
[12:49] <skalpel> where is my .bashrc file located?
[12:49] <kemik> skalpel:  yeah.. there's already some stuff in your .bashrc that will control ls-colors
[12:49] <kemik> skalpel:  your homedirectory;   ~/.bashrc
[12:49] <skalpel> yeah, that is what i want, i think
[12:49] <skalpel> k
[12:49] <eliphas_> locate .bashrc
[12:49] <bimberi> Ronan: How about hda1 - sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[12:50] <kemik> Ronan:  paste your /etc/fstab
[12:50] <Ronan> bimberi I already mounted it
[12:50] <Ronan> kemik one sec
[12:50] <kemik> Ronan:  along with output from "fdisk -l /dev/hda" "fdisk -l /dev/hdb"
[12:50] <socketbind> does anybody know what version of tar had warty?
[12:50] <kemik> Ronan:  (and fdisk for HDC and HDD too )
[12:50] <gn0me> Anyone familiar with microphone jacks on the front of the computer and how to get them to work?
[12:50] <Seveas> socketbind, packages.ubuntu.com can tell you
[12:51] <kemik> gn0me:  make sure the cables inside the box are wired
[12:51] <socketbind> thx seveas i'm having problems with multiple versions...
[12:51] <gn0me> They are.
[12:51] <srijith> doesn't packages in Universe get updated between versions?
[12:51] <Seveas> http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/base/tar
[12:51] <kemik> gn0me:  at least here, it's hardware that controls which is used
[12:51] <gn0me> But I remember in windows I had to tick an option.. so I figure it's like.. OS-based.
[12:51] <lukus001> Hi, my desktop like to change to 640* resolution every now and then, this thime i cant reboot back up to 1224* can somone help? =)
[12:51] <Seveas> srijith, no, just like packages in main
[12:51] <bimberi> Ronan: but it's not listed by df? Anyway go with kemik
[12:51] <eliphas_> do you get sound at all ?
[12:52] <gn0me> I get sound from the rear plugs
[12:52] <gn0me> But the front no
[12:52] <Sylvian> Hi everyone! I have run into a little problem... Perhaps someone can help me? I wanted to install Tor (proxy) on my newly installed ubuntusystem, but the version in the ubuntu repositories were extremely outdated so I snatched the .deb from debian.org (Using unstable, as it was the only rep with the latest version), it complained about me not having the right versions of glibc6 and libevent1, so I got the requiered ones from debian.org
[12:52] <Sylvian> again, libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb and libevent1_1.1a-1_i386.deb and installed them with dpkg. However, when i enter Synaptic, it reports 3 broken packages; libc6-dev, libc6-i686 and locales. Can someone explain how this has happened and how to solve it? Synaptic vants to uninstall those packages (even though the installed and latest versions match, so I'm not really sure about what synaptic is complaining about) but if I uninstall them
[12:52] <Sylvian> , my languaes packs and compilers and tons of stuff disappears. I don't want that! Can someone please help me?
[12:52] <srijith> Seveas: wow.. so even if there is a huge security update in the software, it will not pushed to the users?
[12:52] <Ronan> bimberi roger that
[12:52] <Seveas> Sylvian, BAD idea....
[12:52] <Seveas> VERY bad idea
[12:52] <lukus001> Is there any configuration file i can edit to force change my desktop resolution is stuck on 640 after a reboot??
[12:52] <Seveas> I just spent a while with Lever to resolve this
[12:52] <tyler_> join #ubuntu-es
[12:52] <Seveas> srijith, that's a different story
[12:53] <Seveas> which package are you referring to?
[12:53] <srijith> Seveas: as luck would have it - Tor
[12:53] <Seveas> srijith, hehe, I just backported it
[12:53] <srijith> oh cool!
[12:54] <Ronan> kemik http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1321
[12:54] <Seveas> srijith, your name looks familiar -- were you teaching assistant at network security?
[12:54] <srijith> Seveas: so where do I get the latest packages from?
[12:54] <srijith> yup Seveas and you?
[12:54] <lukus001> Is there any configuration file i can edit to force change my desktop resolution, its stuck on 640*480 after a reboot??
[12:54] <Seveas> srijith, deb http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/ ./
[12:54] <thespiritoftal> can someone please explain me how to configure fluxbox so that it will look similar to gnome or smth useful?
[12:54] <eliphas_> lukus001-> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:55] <Seveas> srijith, I took the course, I was the one with the very long amswer to the question in the GPG mail (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
[12:55] <michele> thespiritoftal, it never will
[12:55] <the--dud> thank god fluxbox doesnt look like gnome hehe
[12:55] <socketbind> I originally made a tar archive on ubuntu warty, on a reiser filesystem mounted with defaults, and I would want to extract the same archive on a suse 9.3 with the same filesystem and options, but I get a bunch of garbled filenames
[12:55] <srijith> Seveas: aha :)
[12:55] <lukus001> eliphas_: thanks, trying it now
[12:55] <thoreauputic> thespiritoftal: sounds like you need gnome - fluxbox is designed to be pretty minimal ;)
[12:55] <desrt> oh misery
[12:55] <kemik> Ronan:  there are no more disks in that computer, right?
[12:55] <michele> thespiritoftal, if you want something small and lean similar to gnome, get xfce or icewm
[12:55] <socketbind> they are mainly hungarian characters but they are totally garbled
[12:55] <eliphas_> :)
[12:55] <Ronan> kemik nope
[12:55] <socketbind> any idea someone?
[12:55] <Ronan> kemik well, dvd, cdrom and floppy
[12:55] <Seveas> Sylvian, grab the libc debs for hoary from packages.ubuntu.com, remove tor and libevent, install the libcpacjages from hoary and install tor/libevent from the repo mentioned above
[12:55] <srijith> Seveas: will the package update go into the official channel?
[12:56] <srijith> 'cos there is no other way the users will know of an update
[12:56] <kemik> Ronan:  that's ok, those are not needed.. are you actually able to boot windows?
[12:56] <Seveas> srijith, I will have to talk to the repo people about that, I didn't know about this security update until 30 minutes ago :)
[12:56] <kemik> Ronan:  its a bit worrisome that there's no NTFS partiton showing at all
[12:56] <Ronan> kemik Let me try to boot windows
[12:57] <srijith> Seveas: the developers were hopping mad when they realised that the old broken version of Tor was being reported as the latest available..
[12:57] <kemik> Ronan:  yeah
[12:57] <Seveas> I can imagine why
[12:57] <srijith> Seveas: I think Nick had also sent an email to security@ubuntu
[12:57] <Ronan> kemik brb
[12:57] <selinium> can anyone recommend a bluetooth dongle?
[12:58] <eliphas_> the only Tor I heard about is the guys who did gimp
[12:58] <srijith> eliphas_: http://tor.eff.org
[12:59] <skalpel> dongle?
[12:59] <eliphas_> ohhhhh I c thanks srijith I am going to have a look at that
[12:59] <ElvenProgrammer> someone can help me restoring my ubuntu after windows installation?
[12:59] <selinium> skalpel: usb widget :)
[01:00] <michele> ElvenProgrammer, there are FAQs eveywhere
[01:00] <bimberi> !recover
[01:00] <skalpel> widget?
[01:00] <ubotu> recover is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:00] <ElvenProgrammer> i know, but i still can't get it
[01:00] <PurpleMotion> yeah, baby.. i even made a chrysler me412 Splashy theme *uNF*
[01:00] <PurpleMotion> this is by far the best looking kde desktop i have ever seen :)
[01:01] <michele> kde looks good? :)
[01:01] <ElvenProgrammer> i don't have hda4
[01:01] <PurpleMotion> mine looks damn good
[01:01] <PurpleMotion> michele:  http://www.daede.com/2x3Desktop.jpg
[01:01] <PurpleMotion> michele:  also my handheld at http://www.daede.com/Jornada690.jpg
[01:01] <ekimus> never ever unplug the cables in a server room :)
[01:02] <le_peace_up> exceptions.ZeroDivisionError:
[01:02] <le_peace_up> float division
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    28     def get_data():
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    29         sys.mountdir = dir
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    30         Dsp.title.value = dir
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    31         Dsp.total.value = "Total: " + mem_format(sys.fsusage.total)
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    32         Dsp.free.value = "Free: " + mem_format(sys.fsusage.avail)
[01:02] <le_peace_up> >  33         disk_fill = (float(sys.fsusage.total) - float(sys.fsusage.avail)) /
[01:02] <le_peace_up> float(sys.fsusage.total) * 100
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    34         Dsp.data.fill = int(disk_fill)
[01:02] <ekimus> le_peace_up: don't paste here
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    35         add_timer(int(update*1000), get_data)
[01:02] <PurpleMotion> !paste
[01:02] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    36         return 0
[01:02] <kemik> oh christ
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    37
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    38
[01:02] <anacron> more more
[01:02] <le_peace_up>    39     # stolen from SysMon
[01:02] <ginipig> omg
[01:02] <le_peace_up> wath is please
[01:02] <sc^> Im planning to install a pc on my car. I have 500-1200mhz prosessors and different mainboards to choose from, but the display is a 7" lcd with video-in connector. So i need my tv-out working all the time. I also need a os that has a fast boot. Is this ubuntu linux what i need?
[01:02] <eliphas_> what happened ekimus ?
[01:02] <le_peace_up> sorry
[01:02] <kemik> Seveas:  what about autokick ??
[01:02] <anacron> is that the best you can do!
[01:02] <ginipig> le_peace_up, jesus christ man
[01:02] <gn0me> haha
[01:02] <Seveas> @!#$!@**&
[01:02] <gn0me> it's just text :D
[01:02] <anacron> :DD
[01:02] <Ronan> :( :( :( :( $#&*!@
[01:02] <Seveas> i'm out for 3 seconds and they start pasting...
[01:02] <kemik> should get ubotu perm-op and auto-floodkick
[01:03] <ginipig> heh
[01:03] <ekimus> eliphas_: well in short: about 6 server just went down :). And the good thing is: I can laugh because me colleague did it. hehe
[01:03] <Ronan> kemik :(...i erased the wrong drive! :( :( :( :( :( :(
[01:03] <PurpleMotion> Seveas:  the sheppard should not wander that far from the flock ;)
[01:03] <anacron> floodkick would be good
[01:03] <ginipig> qq guys, is there a way to find the fastest(closest) apt source in ubuntu?
[01:03] <kemik> Ronan:  that's what i was beginning to suspect
[01:03] <Ronan> kemik all my photos, work, music, EVERYTHING was on there! :(
[01:03] <anacron> ginipig: sudo apt-setup
[01:03] <Ronan> kemik is there anyway i can get any of it back? :(
[01:03] <OzGAz> anyone can help ubuntu newbie?
[01:04] <Seveas> srijith, Sylvian, Lever, the Ubuntu security team is now aware of the tor problem - work is in progress :)
[01:04] <ginipig> anacron, is that the basic apt-sources config? or does it do some diagnostic/testing to find the faster server
[01:04] <srijith> Seveas: great!
[01:04] <kemik> Ronan:  yes.. if it's not too badly overwritten
[01:04] <PurpleMotion> Ronan:  there are professional data recovery services out there.... but methinks you're fscked
[01:04] <anacron> ginipig: see yourself
[01:04] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  no it's not
[01:04] <Ronan> kemik what do you mean too badly overwritten
[01:04] <PurpleMotion> oh, i stand erect^H^H^H^H^Hcorrected then
[01:04] <Lever> good to hear!
[01:04] <Ronan> kemik please, i must know, aaaaaaaaaaaallllllll my photographs ><
[01:04] <ginipig> anacron, didn't think so
[01:05] <kemik> Ronan:  either turn it into a professional service place, or get your hands on Norton recovery or similar recovery program
[01:05] <srijith> Seveas: but isn't this whole structure pretty twisted that a security software is in Universe and is not maintained for several months?
[01:05] <pitti> Seveas: aware, yes, but it's not a priority - it's universe
[01:05] <pitti> Seveas: if you want to prepare an upload, that's fine for me :-)
[01:05] <srijith> Seveas: even when what Ubuntu does is take the debian package?
[01:05] <Ronan> kemik what can I do about it at this second?
[01:05] <PurpleMotion> Ronan:  in the meantime, dont write ANYTHING to that drive
[01:05] <eliphas_> ekimus-> 6 servers my goodness.... I can image the fear in the building
[01:05] <Ronan> purplemotion i installed ubuntu on that drive :(
[01:05] <PurpleMotion> oh
[01:05] <kemik> Ronan:  as PurpleMotion says, dont write ANYTHING to the drive..
[01:05] <Seveas> srijith, pitti, I notified Nafallo from the MOTU, he though he fixed it already
[01:05] <PurpleMotion> how big was it to begin with?
[01:05] <Ronan> I think!
[01:05] <pitti> srijith: it is in universe because it is unsupported
[01:06] <eliphas_> no mailbox, nobody could see where she gonna go for the next holydays
[01:06] <Ronan> kemik maybe i didn't
[01:06] <ekimus> eliphas_: i begin to enjoy how quiet it's in here now :)
[01:06] <kemik> Ronan:  well that's only 1.8gb, most likely you'll not have overwritten your files
[01:06] <Ronan> purplemotion maybe i didn't
[01:06] <eliphas_> ;P
[01:06] <srijith> pitti: who determines what goes into Universe?
[01:06] <Ronan> kemik well, what can I do about it, what can I download and such?
[01:06] <srijith> pitti: asking because a security software not being maintained must as well be left out of the distro
[01:06] <srijith> s/must/might
[01:06] <kemik> Ronan:  i dont know a good program from the top of my head.. but try google for "harddrive recovery" or "disk recovery" etc.
[01:07] <sc^> is it hard to get tv-out working on ubuntu?
[01:07] <surfdue> hello
[01:07] <Ronan> kemik i did this before, but it just erased what windows needed to boot, now it says "error while loading operating system"
[01:07] <kemik> Ronan:  you'll most likely be able to rescue a whole lot of you data.. (a friend did a similar thing... accidentally wiped all his photos)
[01:07] <surfdue> I have a older version of ubuntu is there a way to upgrade my 2.6.8 kernal?
[01:07] <pitti> srijith: everybody can propose something to be included into main: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[01:07] <surfdue> im kinda new to ubuntu, sorry for the noobish question
[01:07] <PurpleMotion> surf, you can upgrade your entire version
[01:07] <surfdue> ok
[01:08] <surfdue> can you tell me how that is posible, some people mension apt-get upgrade kernal
[01:08] <surfdue> but that dosnt look to work
[01:08] <srijith> pitti: and who decides on them? Sorry for the newbie questions, I am new to Ubuntu area
[01:08] <kemik> Ronan:  the  best solution methinks, is to disconnect the drive, and ask a friend with lots of computer experience or take it to a serviceshop.. it's a bit hard to guide you through it all via the internet
[01:08] <surfdue> Is there a Package manager?
[01:08] <PurpleMotion> surfdue:  modify /etc/apt/sources.list and change every instance of warty to hoary (even those instances within other words/strings).. save the file, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <sampoo> how do you do multiple mice in ubuntu?
[01:09] <kemik> !upgrade
[01:09] <ubotu> upgrade is probably "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:09] <Ronan> kemik there aren't any programs or bootdisks? maybe the windows boot disk?
[01:09] <surfdue> ok thanks PurpleMotion
[01:09] <pitti> srijith: usually I review the report and decide
[01:09] <surfdue> I can just type this: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <srijith> ok..
[01:09] <kemik> Ronan:  if you've formatted your partition you'll most likely need a boot disk with a recovery program
[01:09] <OzGAz> are 3rd party progs ubuntu-compatible?
[01:09] <PurpleMotion> yes
[01:09] <surfdue> ok thanks
[01:09] <Seveas> OzGAz, depends on the prog :)
[01:10] <Ronan> kemik ooh, i know. I'll be back in a bit, I'll tr ymy fedora one.
[01:10] <OzGAz> examples (a few)
[01:10] <kemik> most stuff can be compiled i suppose
[01:10] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  whoever did that had too much free time ;)
[01:10] <kemik> Ronan:  but you still need a recoveryprogram
[01:10] <surfdue> ty
[01:10] <surfdue> wow, this is going to take awhile
[01:10] <Seveas> srijith, do you know a bit about the details of tor/the recent security update?
[01:10] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  did what? =) the line you mean ? ;)
[01:10] <PurpleMotion> yeah
[01:10] <OzGAz> Seveas ... is there a list of progs compatible somewhere?
[01:10] <Ronan> kemik okay wait, so even if i erased all the partitions and installed ubuntu on it, a service shop can fix it?
[01:11] <Seveas> OzGAz, most things should work
[01:11] <alie> how to create a local repository an easy way ?
[01:11] <alie> any one there ?
[01:11] <kemik> Ronan:  yes, a service shop or you yourself with the appropriate tools
[01:11] <joel1> i cant get mp3 working
[01:11] <Ronan> kemik like what?
[01:11] <Seveas> alie, read the manpage for dpkg-scanpackages
[01:11] <OzGAz> Seveas ... with full install or "live disc"?
[01:11] <sampoo> joeli: just an idea, but it might help to install lame
[01:12] <sampoo> joeli: that decodes/encodes MP3
[01:12] <srijith> pitti: I am curious about the security check..
[01:12] <Seveas> OzGAz, makes no difference
[01:12] <kemik> Ronan:  http://www.stellarinfo.com/ seems to be one, and there are plenty more
[01:12] <joel1> how i have look at http://ubuntuguide.org/ but is not working
[01:12] <srijith> pitti: "must allow us to support the package for at least 18 months without exposing its users to an inappropriate level of security risks."
[01:12] <Ronan> kemik I ment what tools
[01:12] <srijith> pitti: that sounds like a tall order for Tor which is undergoing active development
[01:13] <kemik> Ronan:  http://www.stellarinfo.com/ <-- they sell recovery tools
[01:13] <Khantozavri> hi folks.... any idea how to mount win2003 shares? i've tried as per guide, but didn't work out...
[01:13] <pitti> srijith: this is the reason why we don't have ethereal and php web apps in main - they are insane
[01:13] <kemik> Ronan:   im not sure you'll find many freeware applications for this task... you'll have to try google and search for "disk recovery"
[01:13] <Ronan> kemik $250?!?!
[01:13] <Lever> Oh just read the above.. Funny that's we'd run into the same exact problem haha. Ignorant minds think alike? ;)
[01:14] <kemik> Ronan:  well that's just the first hit i looked at... im sure there are other tools available.. maybe even freeware
[01:14] <kemik> Ronan:  and there's always Bit-Torrent..
[01:15] <kemik> but you should really not use the drive too much.. everything you write to that disk now will lessen the chance of recovery
[01:15] <srijith> pitti: so in short, even if anyone tries to get Tor into main, it will most probably be shot down? Just gauging the scene before I volunteer anything
[01:16] <pitti> srijith: if the package is reasonably sane and there is somebody who wants to care for it, it's fine
[01:16] <srijith> pitti: I am encouraged..
[01:16] <pitti> srijith: also, I accept and appreciate universe security updates, I just don't do them myself (no time)
[01:16] <Ronan> kemik so what should I do right now?
[01:17] <axel> hi, i just managed to get an HP PhotoSmart 7760 printer working across the LAN via CUPS, but there's a problem, after a page is done printing lpq shows the job is still active, and the job never ends so further jobs just wait forever and i have to lprm by hand
[01:17] <srijith> pitti: oh, I was under the impression Universe uppdates are not too welcome
[01:17] <OzGAz> Seveas_ sorry to be a pain but where do I find then .. my C: and D: hard disks? (damn newbies)_
[01:17] <axel> anyone have a hint about this?
[01:17] <kemik> Ronan:  either A; learn how to recover yourself, B; ask a friend C; goto a computerstore and see what they'd charge
[01:17] <pitti> srijith: oh, to the contrary, there aren't just too many people who do them
[01:18] <Ronan> kemik i'll just shut down i'll talk to you later
[01:18] <kemik> OzGAz:  there's no such thing as C: or D: in linux really
[01:18] <srijith> pitti: cool. thanks..
[01:18] <kemik> OzGAz:  are you trying to mount your windows-partitions?
[01:18] <kemik> !tell OzGAz about ntfs
[01:18] <kemik> Ronan:  good luck :)
[01:18] <Ronan> kemik thanks
[01:19] <srijith> pitti: quick question, when I package an upgrade, will I have to do that for all arch? like 386 and amd64 or can I restrict myself to just 386 (say)?
[01:19] <pitti> srijith: wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures
[01:19] <pitti> srijith: it is automatically built for all arches
[01:19] <pitti> srijith: you just upload a new source package
[01:20] <surfdue> Is there an official ATI Radeion driver for ubuntu?
[01:20] <PurpleMotion> [root@psilocybin(~)] #: apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <PurpleMotion> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:20] <surfdue> :P
[01:21] <csenger> surfdue, yes
[01:21] <surfdue> is it on apt-get?
[01:21] <srijith> pitti: thanks.. hmm. have a lot of learning to do if I am going to take this up. :)
[01:21] <OzGAz> kemik... have installed live cd ... lookin for my progs to discover comaptibility
[01:22] <rtcm> does anyone know if it is normal that apache2 is running with nice level of 10 after cron restarts it?
[01:22] <csenger> surfdue, i think its called fglrx-driver
[01:23] <PurpleMotion> rtcm:  i dont know, but i cant see it doing any harm, other than maybe taking a touch longer to load pages
[01:23] <killahkosha> bleh i'm using ubuntu 5.04, how can I get libc6 2.3.4-1 or greater installed?
[01:23] <PurpleMotion> !ati
[01:23] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:23] <zAo^> killahkosha, you better dont :)
[01:23] <rtcm> PurpleMotion: on a busy server it might impact performance i guess
[01:24] <OzGAz> kemik..do I understand that I have to full install install (i.e. change file system) and re-install progs from scratch under ubuntu?
[01:24] <PurpleMotion> rtcm:  yeah, but you can always modify crontab to start it with a nice of 0
[01:24] <kemik> OzGAz:  what was your former OS ?
[01:24] <killahkosha> bleh then how can i get this driver installed without upgrading to the libc 2.3.4-1 or greater that it needs?
[01:24] <OzGAz> Windows XP (still got it)
[01:24] <PurpleMotion> brb
[01:25] <kemik> OzGAz:  well, not all apps will run under ubuntu.. i mean windows apps need to be run with Wine/Cedega and fra from all is supported
[01:25] <kemik> Seveas:  what did daz do ?
[01:25] <Seveas> kemik, being a pain in the ass in private chat for 3 days now
[01:26] <OzGAz> Kemik .. ok ... perhaps the most popular 3rd party progs generally are ok?
[01:26] <nightswim> sounds familiar
[01:26] <nightswim> he just nagged me to tell you things in this channel
[01:26] <Seveas> yeah
[01:26] <Seveas> I +q'ed him for bad behaviour 3 days ago
[01:26] <hardkaare> Hi is there a gui to setup dhcpd ?
[01:27] <Seveas> and he's been begging/pm'ing/memoserv abusing/nagging others to be -q'ed
[01:27] <PurpleMotion> he msg'd me saying he was in 'real trouble' and that i 'had to help him'
[01:27] <srijith> hardkaare: isn't the CLI easy anought?
[01:27] <hardkaare> srijith, where do I find that?
[01:27] <srijith> hardkaare: CLI = command line interface
[01:28] <kemik> OzGAz:  www.winehq.com has a list i think
[01:28] <PurpleMotion> Seveas:  off the top of your head, can you think of a way to make the update manager gnome system tray icon sit int he kde system tray?
[01:28] <OzGAz> kemik .. thanks mate .trying now..
[01:29] <Seveas> PurpleMotion, nope
[01:29] <PurpleMotion> pfft
[01:29] <lightboy> I realise this isnt very ubuntu specific but does n e one kno a program thats good for burning images to like a vcd that will play in a dvd player
[01:30] <hardkaare> has anyone installed the newst totem under hoary?
[01:30] <hardkaare> with mozilla plugin?
[01:30] <Scrawny1> Help!!!!!!! pls
[01:31] <Tamarisk> hello all
[01:31] <echylo> lightboy, I would try k3b for it :)
[01:31] <Tamarisk> hello all
[01:32] <Tamarisk> bye all
[01:32] <bimberi> lightboy: k3b
[01:32] <Scrawny1> I'm new w/ linux I have Ubuntu I want to install Java to firefox, how do you do this?
[01:32] <Seveas> hardkaare, are there debs to be found for that version?
[01:33] <bimberi> !java
[01:33] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:33] <Scrawny1> I've already been there
[01:33] <killahkosha> Is it worth it to upgrade to the 5.0.10?
[01:33] <hardkaare> Seveas, yep
[01:34] <lightboy> i tried k3b i cant find an option
[01:34] <Seveas> hardkaare, where? I'm *very* interested :)
[01:35] <bimberi> lightboy: File -> New Project -> New Video CD Project
[01:36] <Scrawny1> Java's there, it's running and I have Enable Java marked in FireFox but still nothing
[01:38] <eliphas_> did you install java via apt-get?
[01:38] <Scrawny1> apt-get install javapackage is on my system yes
[01:39] <Scrawny1> er java-package
[01:39] <Seveas> Scrawny1, that's not a java virtual machine
[01:39] <maisy322> hey, how do i change my theme colours from brown to purple
[01:39] <Seveas> Scrawny1, easiest solution: grab a sun jre deb from http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/deb/
[01:39] <Scrawny1> I'm new remember expain virtual machine
[01:40] <zAo^> regebro, replied :)
[01:41] <Scrawny1> Java is on my computer already
[01:41] <Seveas> Scrawny1, how did it get there?
[01:41] <Seveas> Didi you install only java-package?
[01:42] <Seveas> Did*
[01:42] <Scrawny1> searching hells half achre
[01:42] <Seveas> hehe
[01:42] <regebro> zAo^: Thanks.
[01:42] <Scrawny1> I got the .bin
[01:42] <Seveas> Scrawny1, did you run it directly?
[01:42] <corcu> alguien sabe como se instala el java en ubuntu?
[01:42] <Scrawny1> I sh blah.bin
[01:42] <Seveas> !es
[01:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:42] <Seveas> Scrawny1, eww :|
[01:42] <Seveas> that has been a bad idea
[01:42] <maisy322> is it possible to change the default brown colours, to say purple and still retian the same frame style are the windows
[01:43] <regebro> zAo^: That solved problem 2. No idea why though.... :/
[01:43] <maisy322> around the windows
[01:43] <Scrawny1> can you pm me pls sevas?
[01:43] <zAo^> regebro, I think the mirror went down, or the directorystructure changed :)
[01:43] <Seveas> Scrawny1, sure
[01:43] <Scrawny1> thx :)
[01:43] <zAo^> regebro, tried problem 1? (I never use synaptic, sorry)
[01:44] <lightboy> n e one know how to force cedega to run an app in a window?
[01:44] <regebro> zAo^: OK. The problem then lies in that I don't understand the intricacis of the syntax of sources.list. ;)
[01:44] <regebro> zAo^: Yeah, it's still the same problem.
[01:46] <theD3viL> Why is ubuntu so slow after 3weeks of using?
[01:46] <PurpleMotion> its not for me
[01:46] <thoreauputic> it isn't
[01:46] <srijith> thoreauputic: got fluxbox .13 working. Thansk agai!
[01:46] <sc^> how fast does it start up?
[01:47] <thoreauputic>  21:47:03 up 55 days,  6:05,  1 user,  load average: 0.02, 0.15, 0.27
[01:47] <badrunner> havent switched this machine off for months and its still running fine
[01:47] <Alrighta> Guys, I am trying to burn a data disk. I'm using GnomeBaker - well, if I try to burn using drag-and-drop option, when I choose the "Write to Disk" option it says "file image creation error" and that I don't have enough disk space. When I use the software itself in the GUI normally, it always stuck on 97%(while adding the files).. What should I do?
[01:47] <srijith> that came out all wrong - > "thanks again"
[01:47] <sc^> i mean how fast does it boot.
[01:47] <thoreauputic> srijith: glad I could help :)
[01:47] <theD3viL> firefox is opening 5-10sec (AMD 2600+, 512ram,80gb,radeon9600pro,..)
[01:49] <PurpleMotion> clear your cache
[01:49] <PurpleMotion> it'll zip right open
[01:49] <Seveas> :)
[01:49] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, 13:49:28 up 45 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.16, 0.18 <- why i have 2 users??
[01:49] <PurpleMotion> a browser choking on its cache does not a slow system make
[01:50] <Seveas> theD3viL, every terminal counts as one
[01:50] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: probably you have a terminal open ?
[01:50] <PurpleMotion> theD3viL:  do you have a shell open?
[01:50] <Seveas> plus one extra for X
[01:50] <PurpleMotion> yeah when you log into X, you're logging in.. that counts as a user
[01:50] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, Why you have 1 user then?
[01:50] <PurpleMotion> if you have a terminal open, thats another user
[01:50] <theD3viL> aha
[01:50] <thoreauputic> interestingly, I'm running urxvt and it doesn't show up as a user
[01:50] <theD3viL> aha
[01:50] <theD3viL> .....
[01:51] <relic> Is the tracker down?
[01:51] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  because it is set by default to not process the session as a login ;)
[01:51] <ginipig> hi guys
[01:51] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: yes - haven't worked out the option for that yet on urxvt (I need to read the man!)
[01:52] <Alrighta> Guys, I am trying to burn a data disk. I'm using GnomeBaker - well, if I try to burn using drag-and-drop option, when I choose the "Write to Disk" option it says "file image creation error" and that I don't have enough disk space. When I use the software itself in the GUI normally, it always stuck on 97%(while adding the files).. What should I do?
[01:52] <ginipig> previously, on a non gnome-de'd distro install, i used xinitrc to load apps b4 the xserver
[01:52] <ginipig> anyone know how this is done with ghome?
[01:52] <ginipig> besides that session-manager in System>Preferences?
[01:52] <Seveas> Alrighta, do you have enough space left on your harddrive to create the image?
[01:52] <dabar> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf. However, it can not ping the Li
[01:53] <Seveas> ginipig, ~/.gnomerc
[01:53] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, 55days... whats your last PID number than???
[01:53] <ginipig> Seveas: are they syntactically similar?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: why do you ask?
[01:54] <Seveas> ~/.gnomerc is simply sourced
[01:54] <DocTomoe> hi ... where do I find the mozilla firefox plugin directory in hoary?
[01:54] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, becouse if i have computer turned on 1 day its about 20k
[01:54] <Alrighta> Seveas, that is one thing I don't understand. On Windows I don't need to create any image, I can burn my stuff even if I have 0mb left. then why do I need to have free space to burn some fucking mp3's? and no, I don't and I also don't have anything I can delete. Do I have any option to get around that "image creating"?
[01:54] <PurpleMotion> wow
[01:54] <Seveas> Alrighta, another burn program perhaps
[01:54] <PurpleMotion> twenty thousand processes in a day?
[01:55] <Alrighta> Seveas, do you have anything in mind.. a litttle recommendation will help ;)
[01:55] <ginipig> Alrighta: not all apps have those requirements
[01:55] <dabar> Do you perhaps know how to make ipmasq keep a log file?
[01:55] <DocTomoe> Alrighta: try k3b
[01:55] <srijith> DocTomoe: .mozilla/firefox?
[01:55] <ginipig> have you tinkered with cdrecord b4?
[01:56] <anacron> what was the name of that directconnect client?
[01:56] <anacron> or actually the text based one
[01:56] <DocTomoe> srijith: negative. I think it was somewhere in libs, but I really cannot remember
[01:56] <ginipig> is there a decent one for linux yet?
[01:56] <Seveas> Alrighta, sorry, no, I don't burn too much :)
[01:56] <ginipig> anacron: last i checked, the curses-one blew
[01:56] <Seveas> anacron, valknut?
[01:56] <rata_> hi, i just installed ubuntu stable, but i cant change the resolution. Y tried ithe 'gnome way', i tried editing xorg.conf (with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and i see that /etc/X11/xorg.conf has changed), restart X, but i still use 640x480. Any idea ?
[01:56] <anacron> hmm
[01:56] <anacron> Seveas: i'll try that
[01:57] <theD3viL> thoreauputic, no...how much?
[01:57] <Alrighta> DocTomoe, thanks, I'll download it.
[01:57] <Seveas> !tell anacron about valknut
[01:57] <relic> does anyone know that the tracker is down?
[01:57] <srijith> DocTomoe: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[01:57] <anacron> Seveas: i can't find that
[01:57] <Seveas> anacron, ubotu pm'ed you a hint :)
[01:57] <DocTomoe> srijith: thanks. That is what I searched. searched in /lib, tought.
[01:57] <ginipig> rata_: grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:58] <bimberi> anacron: dctc?
[01:58] <ginipig> rata_: find the corresponding depth block in xorg.conf, and make sure the resolution u prefer is listed first
[01:58] <anacron> bimberi: oh that sounds like it
[01:58] <Seveas> relic, yes
[01:58] <rata_> ginipig: it is
[01:58] <Seveas> there is a DVD mirror on wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:59] <ginipig> rata_: are your horizsync, and vertrefresh values accurate?
[01:59] <kameron> i installed a fresh copy of 5.04, and i installed grub to the mbr of the first disk.. and when i boot, i just get a grub shell, it says "Grub version .95 \ Minimal BASH-Like editing is supported" pressing TAB gives me different command options, etc, but.. how do i just choose an OS to boot to?
[01:59] <ginipig> rata_: or were they generated by xorg-install
[01:59] <Alrighta> Btw (another question.. heh), I can hear music on Ubuntu(worked according to the unofficial guide), however, the music sounds quite bad, really bad.. any idea how to hear music decently?
[01:59] <DocTomoe> kameron: how about hiting <enter>?
[01:59] <Seveas> kameron, *ouch*
[01:59] <rata_> ginipig: and it is the only one listed now (before i have four listed)
[01:59] <Seveas> do you have a live cd nearby?
[01:59] <kameron> are you serious.. i just needed to hit enter?
[01:59] <DocTomoe> try it
[02:00] <thespiritoftal> is ubuntu the best linux distro eveR?
[02:00] <Seveas> kameron, well, if you don't get a menu something is wrong
[02:00] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, of course :)
[02:00] <kameron> like, when you boot, should i just get a list of OSs to choose from, instead of the bash-like shell?
[02:00] <thespiritoftal> seveas: I knew you'd tell that :p
[02:00] <DocTomoe> thespiritoftal: nope. but I cannot read Tengwar. Ubuntu comes second
[02:00] <Seveas> kameron, yup
[02:00] <kameron> well, i don't have that.
[02:00] <rata_> ginipig: they arent listed there, but when i do dpkg-reconfigure, they are, and i choose 60Hz (what gnome says that uses now)
[02:01] <ginipig> hi guys, anyone trying to fetch sources from au.archive.ubuntu.com tonight?
[02:01] <Casanova> hello i created a package for debian will it also work for ubuntu?
[02:01] <ginipig> rata_: it's possible that your monitor supports higher values
[02:01] <Seveas> Casanova, maybe
[02:01] <kameron> i have windoze installed on primary master, and ubuntu on primary slave.. so i installed all ubuntu stuff on slave, and put bootloader on mbr of master disk.. is this a bad setup?
[02:01] <DocTomoe> Casanova: Deepnds on the packafges dependencies.
[02:01] <Seveas> depends on the dependencies :)
[02:01] <ginipig> rata_: what's your monitor make/model, btw? i'll try to find the values for u
[02:01] <Casanova> DocTomoe: it is a python module
[02:01] <thespiritoftal> lol
[02:02] <rata_> ginipig: viewsonic
[02:02] <DocTomoe> Casanova: That may call for problems.
[02:02] <clem_yeats> hi
[02:02] <rata_> ginipig: the monitor doesnt says anything more, but xorg says viewsonic E6
[02:02] <thespiritoftal> clem_yeats: hi
[02:02] <ginipig> rata_: I think the problem here is that you're not allowing higher/lower refresh rates than 60 on your monitor. this limits you to a crappier resolution
[02:02] <clem_yeats> anobody got the realtek 8180 to work ?
[02:02] <Casanova> DocTomoe: then i will have to rewrite the rules file for ubuntu?
[02:03] <ginipig> rata_: is it possible for you to look at the back of the monitor? by the input cord slot?
[02:03] <rata_> ginipig: good idea, but there isnt in ubuntu repositories xvidtune (i use debian, and it is :)
[02:03] <rata_> ginipig: let me see...
[02:03] <kameron> any ideas why my grub bootloader is messed?
[02:03] <ginipig> rata_: ah, i'm using debian myself :)
[02:03] <clem_yeats> kameron: what does it do ?
[02:03] <ginipig> rata_: 3 with etch, and 3 on sarge
[02:03] <DocTomoe> Casanova: I recall having problems with the transistion debian -> ubuntu with the python packages. they are different. I recommend repackaging for ubuntu
[02:04] <kameron> it drops me in that bash-like shell, where i can type a bunch of commands that don't do anything.
[02:04] <rata_> ginipig: 50-60 Hz
[02:04] <rata_> ginipig: when this pc has debian an xorg, it works properly
[02:04] <Casanova> DocTomoe: ok :)
[02:05] <ginipig> rata_: how old is your monitor?
[02:05] <liraz> Does anyone know how Bistream fonts are made as smooth as in the Graphite Suite theme - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26757 .My bitstream vera sans fonts look disgusting...
[02:05] <rata_> ginipig: very very old
[02:05] <ginipig> rata_: wait, is it crt or lcd?
[02:05] <ginipig> rata_: scratch that ;)
[02:06] <rata_> ginipig: i dont know what crt is, but lcd i isnt :D
[02:06] <relic> does anyone know that the tracker is down?
[02:06] <kameron> can i install lilo as a bootloader instead/
[02:06] <ginipig> rata_: :) did you say viewsonic e7 earlier?
[02:06] <rata_> ginipig: yes
[02:07] <kameron> rata_, no, you said E6
[02:07] <rendi> girl when i'm compile perl i got some err like this
[02:07] <rata_> ginipig: would you like to see behind the monitor to see the model ?
[02:07] <rendi> Can't locate URI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4
[02:07] <rendi> what mean that ??
[02:07] <rata_> kameron: you are right!
[02:07] <kameron> ;)
[02:07] <Eduardo_of_the_d> HEY .. :)
[02:07] <Seveas> rendi, libwww-uri-perl
[02:08] <rendi> ? ur mean
[02:08] <ginipig> rata_: come again?
[02:08] <srijith> has anyone tried Photoshop using wine in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <rendi> i have instal that lib Seveas ??
[02:08] <Seveas> rendi, liburi-perl even
[02:08] <Seveas> yes you need to install it
[02:08] <Eduardo_of_the_d> I have Slack and Ubuntu installaded in my machine.
[02:08] <rendi> ic ty ty
[02:08] <kameron> srijith: no, but have you tried that photoshop mod on gimp yet? it's really sweet.
[02:08] <hmrocha> hello
[02:08] <clem_yeats> hi hmrocha
[02:08] <Eduardo_of_the_d> but ... my lilo or grup have a problens
[02:08] <rata_> ginipig: sorry, what ? (my english suck ;)
[02:09] <hmrocha> i'm installing ubuntu on my college pc's
[02:09] <srijith> kameron: I tried it first when it came out and the compile produced the same damn thing.. haven't tried it laterly
[02:09] <hmrocha> i'm thinking about creating a script to install all the software the teachers asked for
[02:09] <ginipig> rata_: i'm doing some googling
[02:09] <Eduardo_of_the_d> I am Like Slack and Ubuntu ...
[02:09] <ginipig> rata_: i'll try to figure out what e6 means to xorg-server
[02:09] <hmrocha> is it possible to use apt-get in a script, answering "yes" when prompted?
[02:10] <Eduardo_of_the_d> whats name ?
[02:10] <rata_> ginipig: lot of thanks :)
[02:10] <ginipig> hmrocha: for cron updates?
[02:10] <Eduardo_of_the_d> name frem script
[02:10] <Eduardo_of_the_d> from
[02:10] <hmrocha> ginipig, no
[02:10] <ginipig> hmrocha: good
[02:10] <clem_yeats> ginipig : for scripting.
[02:10] <ginipig> hmrocha: it's dangerous to assume Y to all qquestions
[02:10] <hmrocha> ginipig, i just installed ubuntu on a pc
[02:11] <liraz> Anyone here using bitstream vera sans?
[02:11] <hmrocha> i want to install package foobar
[02:11] <hmrocha> if i do an apt-get install foobar and this package has dependencies, it will ask if i want to install them too
[02:11] <hmrocha> how can i answer "yes" in a script?
[02:12] <clem_yeats> hmrocha: there probably is an option to apt-get to avoid being prompted..
[02:12] <hmrocha> clem_yeats, that would be easier :)
[02:12] <clem_yeats> hmrocha: did you check that in man apt-get ?
[02:12] <hmrocha> clem_yeats, if that's possible it will save me some work
[02:12] <hmrocha> clem_yeats, no, but i'll check it out now
[02:13] <AnimalChin> hallo
[02:13] <clem_yeats> hmrocha : --assume-yes
[02:14] <hmrocha> clem_yeats, it's -y, or --yes or --assume-yes
[02:14] <hmrocha> :)
[02:14] <srijith> kameron: do you remember the url of the mod?
[02:14] <clem_yeats> hmrocha : et voila
[02:14] <ginipig> rata_: I was here: http://www.griffintechnology.com/archive/video/comdata.html
[02:14] <ginipig> rata_: no good
[02:14] <rata_> ginipig: :(
[02:14] <dabar> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf. However, it can not ping the Li
[02:14] <rata_> ginipig: lot of thanks
[02:14] <dabar> Perhaps also knowing where ipmasq keeps a log, or how to make it keep one will help.
[02:15] <skalpel> can someone tell me why i have to change the file permissions everytime someone uploads files on my computer? is there a way to make them accessible automatically?
[02:15] <clem_yeats> skalpel: yes
[02:15] <srijith> kameron: don't bother, got it
[02:15] <clem_yeats> skalpel: you need to set the default chmod for the folder
[02:15] <skalpel> clem_yeats: how do i do that?
[02:15] <clem_yeats> skalpel: hehe... I just can't remember...
[02:15] <skalpel> k
[02:15] <clem_yeats> skalpel: let me have a look on google.
[02:15] <skalpel> alright
[02:15] <skalpel> thank you
[02:17] <ginipig> rata_: still googling
[02:17] <rata_> ginipig: :D
[02:18] <ginipig> rata_: so xvidtune didn't help at all?
[02:18] <aerie> anyone here on breezy having oddities with firefox and font rendering? My fonts are horridly rendered :/
[02:18] <rata_> ginipig: xvidtune it isn in ubuntu, i am triyin with xrandr, but does not list me 800x600
[02:19] <ginipig> rata_: it should be
[02:19] <ginipig> rata_: are u using universal with apt?
[02:20] <rata_> ginipig: no, i am not
[02:20] <ginipig> rata_: /usr/bin/X11/xvidtune
[02:20] <rata_> ginipig: i will try
[02:20] <rata_> ginipig: thanks
[02:22] <clem_yeats> skalpel : the command is umask
[02:22] <clem_yeats> skalpel : do you have a ftpd.conf ?
[02:22] <skalpel> clem_yeats: somewhere, why?
[02:23] <skalpel> i am using ssh though, not ftpd
[02:23] <clem_yeats> skalpel : oh ok.
[02:23] <skalpel> sftp actually
[02:23] <clem_yeats> skalpel : you need to umask the directory
[02:23] <skalpel> that does not use ftpd.conf does it?
[02:23] <clem_yeats> skalpel : no, I don't think so.
[02:23] <skalpel> how do i do that?
[02:23] <clem_yeats> skalpel : just go to your directory
[02:24] <skalpel> there is no man entry for umask so you might have to explain it to me
[02:24] <clem_yeats> skalpel : what permission do you want the files to have by default ?
[02:24] <skalpel> clem_yeats: +rwx
[02:24] <mrson> \join ubuntu-es
[02:24] <dabar> for whom?
[02:25] <dabar> skalpel: every file has permissions for owner, group, and others.
[02:25] <ginipig> rata_: no luck
[02:25] <Srekel> hi
[02:25] <clem_yeats> skalpel : you mean for everybody ??
[02:25] <thoreauputic> mrson:   /j #ubuntu-es
[02:25] <skalpel> clem_yeats: yes, all users
[02:25] <ginipig> rata_: gooling for "viewsonic e6" returns links to smut sites
[02:25] <clem_yeats> skalpel : 777 in other words..
[02:25] <skalpel> yes
[02:25] <rata_> ginipig: lot of thanks anyway :D
[02:25] <clem_yeats> skalpel : hmm... ok.
[02:25] <dabar> umask is the 000.
[02:25] <Srekel> is there a quick way to restart gnome, without having to go to the login screen? I just want to test my Startup programs
[02:26] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar a instalar el poetgresql en mi maquin, soy novato
[02:26] <dabar> when a file is created, the umask is looked up, to see what parts of 777 should be subtracted. so if umask was 022 every file newly created would be 755, in your case, yo uwant 777 so 000 is the umask,. you dont actually want this, tho.
[02:27] <clem_yeats> srekel: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
[02:27] <dabar> srekel./..
[02:27] <dabar> clem_yeats: thats not that.
[02:27] <srijith> clem_yeats: doesn't that restart X? and get you to the login page?
[02:27] <clem_yeats> yes..
[02:27] <mrson> y astoy en ubuntu-es
[02:27] <Srekel> yup
[02:27] <clem_yeats> didn't I read the question properly ?
[02:27] <dabar> read again
[02:27] <srijith> he doesn't want to go to the login
[02:27] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: you didn't, no
[02:28] <seraph> clem_yeats, he wants to avoid logging in again
[02:28] <seraph> :)
[02:28] <Srekel> I know when I was using, I think windowmaker in school, I could just hit "restart windowmaker" or something from a menu
[02:28] <clem_yeats> skalpel : go to your dir, and type umask 000 .
[02:28] <srijith> but still see the updated (?) start programs
[02:28] <skalpel> dabar: any idea how i can change the default chmod for my directories? i want all users to have rwx on all files, old and new
[02:28] <Srekel> and it took only a second to get it back with correct startup stuff
[02:28] <dabar> Srekel: gnome-session-manager I think you need to killall gnome-session manager. altho......I am not sure, and will maybe try myself in a xnest.
[02:28] <onno> how can I install pfm fonts? do the work on Ubuntu
[02:28] <skalpel> clem_yeats: okay
[02:28] <clem_yeats> oh ok... sorry then.
[02:28] <seraph> srijith, no
[02:28] <skalpel> clem_yeats: done
[02:28] <ginipig> rata_: one last suggestion:
[02:28] <onno> how can I install .pfm fonts? do they work on Ubuntu
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Srekel: yes, but that's just a window manager, not a complete desktop environment
[02:28] <ginipig> rata_: use the settings for a generic monitor
[02:28] <ginipig> rata_:  HorizSync 31.5 - 150.0
[02:28] <ginipig> VertRefresh 40-75
[02:29] <skalpel> clem_yeats: how do i inculde recursive directories?
[02:29] <rata_> ginipig: thanks, i will try that :)
[02:29] <Srekel> thoreauputic, ok, so there's no simple way to do that in gnome?
[02:29] <clem_yeats> skalpel : try -R... I'm not sure.
[02:29] <clem_yeats> skalpel : otherwise use perl.
[02:29] <ginipig> rata_: change 150 to something lower in case
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Srekel: what did you want to "refresh" ?
[02:29] <clem_yeats> skalpel : or a shell script
[02:29] <ginipig> rata_: somewhere ~ 100
[02:29] <skalpel> screw that
[02:29] <skalpel> im a n3wb
[02:29] <skalpel> and i know there is an easier way
[02:29] <rata_> ginipig: ok, i will try that :D
[02:29] <clem_yeats> you're a what ?
[02:30] <skalpel> a newb!
[02:30] <skalpel> hehe
[02:30] <skalpel> im very new to linux
[02:30] <clem_yeats> hmm...
[02:30] <skalpel> i cannot script or use perl
[02:30] <clem_yeats> then you'll love scripting
[02:30] <Srekel> well I've set some Eterms in the Startup Programs (under Sessions), and I'd like to test different parameters quickly
[02:30] <dabar> he wants to see if that works, right.
[02:30] <Srekel> it takes almost a minute with ctrl-alt-del
[02:30] <dabar> Ill tell you in a sec.
[02:30] <poet> how do I make ubuntu boot into text console i/o xdmn/gdm etc?
[02:30] <clem_yeats> skalpel: being a "newb" as you say usually doesn't last long.
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Srekel: AFAIK gnome-session doesn't know about Eterms (or aterms etc)
[02:31] <skalpel> clem_yeats: okay
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Srekel: ah sorry I see
[02:31] <skalpel> clem_yeats: but i am sure there is an easier way to set default chmods for my dirs than using a coding language or shell script
[02:31] <Srekel> thoreauputic, ok :)
[02:32] <dabar> Srekel: well, install xnesst...:-/ cant just killall gnome-session.
[02:33] <jono> anyone running breezy having trouble installing sysv-rc?
[02:33] <Dekkard>  error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[02:33] <srijith> anyone around here using Rox?
[02:33] <Dekkard> what exactly does that mean?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> srijith: yup
[02:33] <Srekel> ouch, that seems a bit too complicated for me at the moment. oh well, it's not that important anyways
[02:33] <thoreauputic> srijith: the filer that is
[02:33] <srijith> thoreauputic: there you are :)
[02:33] <Srekel> thanks guys for the help :)
[02:34] <thoreauputic> srijith: what's the issue with rox?
[02:34] <clem_yeats> skalpel: doesn't seem to be a recursion option in umask
[02:34] <srijith> thoreauputic: how do I associate an application to a file? ie. if I double click on the file in Rox, I need it to open using a particular app
[02:34] <skalpel> i noticed that too
[02:34] <skalpel> i wonder why not?
[02:34] <killahkosha> Woot, almost done doing my messy upgrade to 5.10 :)
[02:34] <skalpel> is umask the only way to set the default chmod?
[02:34] <Seveas> Dekkard, that you need to install the build-essential package
[02:35] <Dekkard> ok
[02:35] <Dekkard> ive synaptic open..
[02:35] <thoreauputic> srijith: right click the file and choose "set run action"
[02:35] <killahkosha> Just changing the sources.lst over to the 5.10 repositories and then updating the database then doing dist-upgrade will do a clean job at getting me to 5.10, right?
[02:35] <clem_yeats> skalpel: I don't know.
[02:36] <clem_yeats> skalpel: but you can use unix commands to do that, or shell script, or perl, or whatever, the choice is yours.
[02:36] <thoreauputic> srijith: BTW the rox Help is actually helpful (incredible I know, but true )
[02:36] <Dekkard> Seveas:  ok did a search and found it
[02:37] <rata_> ginipig: :(
[02:37] <Dekkard> than we can compile?
[02:37] <rata_> ginipig: ubuntu sucks :-P
[02:37] <rata_> ginipig: lot of thanks, i am going away now
[02:37] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks, very subtle :)
[02:37] <dabar> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.
[02:37] <chaumurky> pffft
[02:37] <dabar> However, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out. Perhaps eevn knowing where the logs are kept for ipmasq, or how to make it keep a log would be helpful. ipmasq uses iptables on my system.
[02:37] <clem_yeats> skalpel: ls can give you a recursive list of directories... and you can probably pipe that into the umask command somehow. It's hard for me to give you the solution from here since I'm on windows and I don't have any unix box available from here.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> srijith: just a tip - if you use a lot of local html docs, dillo is a nice, lightning fast browser for that kind of thing
[02:38] <thoreauputic> srijith: I have dillo associated with html in rox for that reason
[02:38] <Seveas> Dekkard, yes
[02:38] <Dekkard> thanks bro
[02:39] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks for the tip
[02:39] <srijith> thoreauputic: will try that
[02:40] <thoreauputic> srijith: :)  My comment on the Help wasn't a "RTFM" bythe way - I just found it useful ;)
[02:41] <chaumurky> just gave dillo a try for my local DTV/EPG but it didn't render correctly...
[02:41] <chaumurky> shame
[02:41] <srijith> thoreauputic: just to doube check.. dillo does not support CSS and all those heavy stuff right?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> srijith: rox is very nice - I rarely use nautilus any mmore
[02:41] <thoreauputic> srijith: correct
[02:41] <chaumurky> no css ahh that 's why.. *ducks*
[02:42] <srijith> thoreauputic: very true. I don't use nautilus too.. minimalism is my kind of thing
[02:42] <thoreauputic> srijith: you wouldn't want dillo as an every-day browser
[02:43] <thespiritoftal> when I start ubuntu with xfce4 it doesn't auto-detect my usb-disk unlike gnome. how can i make it auto-detect it?
[02:43] <Tadej> hello
[02:43] <thoreauputic> srijith: actually I find these days it's generally faster to use the cli - I use rox for graphcs/pictures etc mostly
[02:43] <Tadej> I have a problem with resolution
[02:43] <Tadej> I cant make it go higher than 1024 x 786 @ 60Hz
[02:43] <Tadej> I changed xorg.conf
[02:44] <Tadej> and still I cant change it
[02:44] <srijith> thoreauputic: it has always been, isn't it?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> srijith: one nice feature of rox is the built in shell line ( shift-!)
[02:45] <chaumurky> Tadej: make sure your frequencies aren't too conservative/ match your display device.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> srijith: yes, I meant now that I've been using it for a few years it's become familiar :)
[02:45] <srijith> thoreauputic: where does the output of the shell command go?
[02:45] <srijith> I jjst did an "ls" and not sure where to look
[02:46] <thoreauputic> srijith: it acts on the file(s)you select - I don't know the exact way ti works
[02:46] <thoreauputic> *it
[02:46] <Tadej> chaumurky: how do I know the freq. of my display device?
[02:46] <srijith> haa ok..
[02:46] <thoreauputic> srijith: no, I don't think you can do ls etc
[02:47] <thoreauputic> srijith: if you want a shell open at that dir, hit ` (backtick)
[02:47] <thoreauputic> srijith: should give you an xterm
[02:48] <srijith> thoreauputic: cool! nice.. :)
[02:48] <thoreauputic> srijith: yeah, more people should know about rox! It *cough* erm... rocks
[02:48] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:49] <srijith> thoreauputic: since you are in such a nice mood to impart wisdom, how do I get xterm to copy paste using Shift-Ctrl-C/V?
[02:49] <srijith> miss that about gnome-terminal
[02:49] <thoreauputic> srijith: hmmm
[02:50] <thoreauputic> srijith: no idea, sorry ;-)
[02:50] <srijith> np
[02:50] <ginipig> isn't that an Xdefaults setting?
[02:51] <ginipig> buffer-calls
[02:51] <srijith> ginipig: Shift-CTRL-C/V?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> srijith: you realise in fluxbox you can make your own key combos for just about anything? (~/.fluxbox/keys )
[02:51] <theD3viL> How can i enable infrared??
[02:52] <srijith> thoreauputic: yup.. I do :)
[02:52] <thoreauputic> srijith: you're way ahead of me ;)
[02:52] <thoreauputic> srijith: nice isn't it?
[02:52] <srijith> thoreauputic: so completely customised my key bindings that no one else can use my laptop :)
[02:52] <thoreauputic> srijith: hahah
[02:53] <thoreauputic> srijith: the keys file makes my *shudder* windows key useful :)
[02:54] <srijith> thoreauputic: http://www.srijith.net/trinetre/archives/upload/screenshot-fluxbox.png
[02:54] <thoreauputic> looking
[02:55] <srijith> thoreauputic: nothing great, just tossed it out..
[02:55] <thoreauputic> srijith: nice - what style/theme?
[02:55] <srijith> slightly modified protblack -> http://toxicana.com/index.php?page=blackbox&showit=100#100
[02:55] <tofirius> hello i need help!
[02:55] <srijith> s/protoblack
[02:56] <tofirius> somehow i removed myself from the sudoer list
[02:56] <tofirius> how can i get it back?
[02:56] <Goshawk> \j #sed
[02:56] <Goshawk> ops sorry
[02:57] <servibancos> 070899
[02:57] <thoreauputic> srijith: I still haven't found a favourite style - I use the "paper" style from openbox a lot,, and asimple one I did myself
[02:58] <thoreauputic> openbox styles work with flux, I found
[02:58] <eliphas_> everything *box does
[02:58] <srijith> thoreauputic: so I have heard
[02:58] <wynseb001> hello
[02:59] <eliphas_> has it is based on blackbox
[02:59] <thoreauputic> tofirius: boot in recovery mode (should get you a root shell) then run visudo
[02:59] <wynseb001> hello wynseb001
[02:59] <EasterSunshine> can i get a recommendation for an ssh client for windows?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: putty
[02:59] <EasterSunshine> thx, that was the first hit on google, but it sounded bad =/
[03:00] <srijith> thoreauputic: found copy paste in xterm, highlight for copy and middle click for paste
[03:00] <tofirius> thoreauputic..... great! thank you!
[03:00] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  its a good client
[03:00] <mitsuhiko> EasilyOdd: its the only one .)
[03:00] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  securecrt is another, but its shareware or something
[03:00] <thoreauputic> srijith: ah - I thought you meant with the keyboard....
[03:00] <Tadej> ppl how do I found out Vsync and Hsync for my 17" monitor?
[03:01] <srijith> thoreauputic: well yes, that is what I wanted, but this will also do.. :)
[03:01] <thoreauputic> srijith: that's just standard copy-paste in any app for linux
[03:01] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[03:01] <Tadej> can I make ubuntu probe monitor?
[03:02] <srijith> thoreauputic: duh :) I was trying shift insert instead of middle button for paste and it was not working..
[03:02] <thoreauputic> ah
[03:03] <thoreauputic> grrrr
[03:03] <ginipig> thoreauputic: firefox?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> ginipig: yes - I guess there's an about:config setting to disable it... ?
[03:04] <kemik> srijith:  shift-insert works if you've ctrl-insert copied it ... :)
[03:05] <srijith> kemik: across apps?
[03:05] <kemik> srijith:  at least across terminals
[03:06] <kemik> srijith:  works from xchat to a terminal aswell (no need to ctrl-insert copy..)
[03:06] <ginipig> thoreauputic: yeah
[03:06] <ginipig> thoreauputic: or, you could google for firefox disable target window
[03:06] <ginipig> ginipig: whoops, that's not the one
[03:06] <srijith> kemik: across terminals, but not across apps
[03:06] <srijith> kemik: say across xterm and firefox
[03:06] <thoreauputic> ginipig: ah yes - there's an extension of course :)
[03:06] <kemik> srijith:  works
[03:07] <ginipig> thoreauputic: that was the wrong tweak; it's still a useful one though
[03:07] <thoreauputic> ginipig: right
[03:07] <kemik> srijith:  at least i copied the "adress-bar" (where you type URL's) with ctrl-insert, and shift-inserted it in a terminal
[03:07] <Akbar> is it possible to upgrade to ubuntu from debian unstable?
[03:08] <srijith> kemik: the other way around?
[03:08] <kemik> srijith:  awh.. no that doesnt work.. :) i guess i misunderstood
[03:08] <kemik> sry
[03:08] <srijith> kemik: np :)
[03:09] <jono> is there a way to perform a dist-upgrade and not have to type in Y to accept the upgrade?
[03:09] <killahkosha> I did kind of a messy upgrade to 5.10 and when I did my apt-get dist-upgrade everything worked except for one package: libgl1-xorg-dri, when it tries to install that package it says "dkpg error processing" and "trying to overwrite.....gamma_dri.so which is also provided in package xlibmesa-dri" and also "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal"
[03:09] <ginipig> thoreauputic: ah, you're out of luck, i recently re-installed tabbrowser-prefs
[03:09] <jono> killahkosha, same problem here
[03:10] <ginipig> thoreauputic: it replaced the relevant entries in about:config (prefs.js) with it's own values
[03:10] <kemik> jono:  apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[03:10] <jono> kemik, :)
[03:10] <thoreauputic> ginipig: it's OK - I'll hack at it a bit :)
[03:10] <kemik> jono:  the man-pages are a great resource
[03:10] <killahkosha> jono, haha so what are you gonna do to try to fix?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> ginipig: I can usually sort it out
[03:11] <ginipig> thoreauputic: if you're interested, they're now: extensions.tabprefs.divertPopupLinks
[03:11] <killahkosha> I was thinking maybe renaming the gamma_dri.so and just adding a 1 to the end or something
[03:11] <jono> killahkosha, wait for someone who knows what they are doing to fix the package :D
[03:11] <killahkosha> Ohmer, package is broken?
[03:11] <ginipig> thoreauputic: = 0
[03:11] <killahkosha> oh*
[03:11] <ginipig> thoreauputic: ok
[03:12] <thoreauputic> ginipig: it's kind of fun in a geeky sort of way to fool with about:config ;-)
[03:13] <srijith> thoreauputic: :) even more geekier is to build and optmize ff for your arch
[03:13] <thoreauputic> ginipig: I went through a phase of hating the scrollbar, so I removed it... I forget the exact incantation I used
[03:13] <ginipig> thoreauputic: i removed most of the elements
[03:13] <ginipig> thoreauputic: for a while, i used vim-keybindings, and konkeror-chrome
[03:14] <thoreauputic> ginipig: I have only one toolbar - very thin at the top
[03:14] <ginipig> thoreauputic: but now I'm back to using gryphens userChrome
[03:14] <joee> php4-mysql, is there another package for that?
[03:14] <thoreauputic> ginipig: thou art geekier than I, friend ;-)
[03:14] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[03:14] <ginipig> thoreauputic: :)
[03:15] <eliphas_> joee no
[03:15] <ginipig> thoreauputic: I'm running ion3 alongside gnome, so I had to setup a mouse-less profile for hta
[03:15] <ginipig> that
[03:15] <joee> eliphas_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP <-
[03:15] <srijith> has anyone tried xen on ubuntu?
[03:15] <joee> what do I have to do instead?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> ginipig: have you played with wmii ?
[03:16] <eliphas_> let me look
[03:16] <ginipig> ginipig: yep
[03:16] <eliphas_> php4-mysal is in the universe package
[03:16] <ginipig> ginipig: it's lua-capable as well
[03:16] <thoreauputic> ginipig: you know talking to yourself is the first sign of madness?
[03:16] <eliphas_> you have to add the universe in your apt list
[03:17] <ginipig> ginipig: that's what I think
[03:17] <ginipig> thoreauputic: :)
[03:17] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[03:17] <ginipig> thoreauputic: hey, it confuses irssi hilighting
[03:17] <joee> eliphas_: url for universe?
[03:17] <ginipig> or at least in my theme, it does..
[03:18] <thoreauputic> I'm not surprised ...
[03:18] <thoreauputic> heh
[03:18] <joee> eliphas_ got it
[03:18] <joee> :)
[03:18] <ginipig> :`(
[03:18] <eliphas_> apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[03:18] <eliphas_> oops
[03:18] <ginipig> gotta hit the sack
[03:18] <eliphas_> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:18] <ginipig> night, southern-hemisphere-ians
[03:19] <killahkosha> jono, you can't boot into x either, eh?
[03:19] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[03:19] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[03:19] <Seveas> ^-- eliphas_
[03:19] <eliphas_> oops Seveas
[03:20] <eliphas_> :)
[03:20] <_salomon_> hi, i've got a broblem when i try to install an hoary on a old pc...
[03:20] <eliphas_> impossible
[03:20] <eliphas_> ...
[03:20] <Seveas> _salomon_, what's the problem?
[03:21] <Angel-SL> _salomon_: we aint mind-reading.
[03:21] <ElvenProgrammer> when doing "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda" it says "/dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[03:21] <_salomon_> ...i've tried to install fromm cd, but it say that it's unable to find a debootstrap..
[03:21] <Seveas> ElvenProgrammer, how exactly are you running it? From inside a chroot?
[03:21] <_salomon_> ...but the cd is ok.
[03:22] <ElvenProgrammer> Seveas: yup
[03:22] <killahkosha> Does the nvidia-glx driver need libgl1-xorg-dri to work?
[03:22] <Seveas> ElvenProgrammer, make sure /proc and /dev are mounted inside the chroot
[03:22] <Seveas> mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev
[03:22] <Seveas> mount -o bind /proc /chroot/proc
[03:22] <joee> eliphas_ Couldn't stat source package list
[03:23] <Seveas> joee, apt-get update
[03:23] <_salomon_> someones have any ideas?
[03:23] <kiko> hey seb128, can you help rbelem with a python packaging error?
[03:23] <kiko> he can't make cdbs cd into a directory before issuing a python setup.py build
[03:23] <Seveas> _salomon_, are you sure the cd is good?
[03:24] <joee> Seveas: what does this command do? caching the archive lists?
[03:24] <eliphas_> joee when you add your repositories you lust do a apt-get update
[03:24] <ElvenProgrammer> Seveas: i did as it was written in here
[03:24] <ElvenProgrammer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:24] <eliphas_> yes
[03:24] <jbailey> kiko: Set DEB_SRCDIR
[03:24] <Seveas> ElvenProgrammer, that should work
[03:24] <eliphas_> sorry for the delay but working at the same time
[03:24] <rbelem> hey seb128
[03:24] <Seveas> do /dev and /proc have contents inside the chroot?
[03:25] <jono> killahkosha, nope
[03:25] <_salomon_> seveas: yes, it's a cd that i've found into a magazine, and i've check it with the apposite option
[03:25] <joee> Seveas, eliphas_ thanks a lot
[03:25] <killahkosha> oh ok
[03:25] <killahkosha> bleh
[03:25] <killahkosha> now to see if the kernel is the reason then
[03:25] <titanium> any idea what this would be? trying to make a .deb of freenx-0.4.4 (freenx scripts) dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: dpatch
[03:25] <ElvenProgrammer> Seveas: it seems so
[03:25] <vortec__> hi, where can i configure my wlan under ubuntu?
[03:25] <kiko> rbelem, see jbailey's suggestion above
[03:25] <Seveas> _salomon_, what kind of PC do you have? And which ubuntu version is it?
[03:25] <eliphas_> np
[03:26] <rbelem> jbailey, DEB_SRCDIR? where the directory is that contains the setup.py?
[03:26] <jbailey> rbelem: Yup
[03:26] <killahkosha> wow
[03:26] <killahkosha> its 6:30am
[03:26] <killahkosha> man i need to go to sleep some time
[03:26] <jbailey> rbelem: cdbs supports the concept of srcdir != builddir builds, so you tweak these things all sorts of ways.
[03:26] <rbelem> jbailey, cool ;-)
[03:26] <Seveas> ElvenProgrammer, then paste your menu.lst (from inside the chroot) and the output of sudo fdisk -l on the pastebin
[03:26] <jbailey> rbelem: All the build commands will be relative to that directoroy.
[03:26] <jbailey> rbelem: I'll warn you that this is a pretty untested path with distutils, though.
[03:26] <_salomon_> seveas: this one it's an old pc (pentium 200MHz - 64Mb RAM)
[03:27] <Seveas> rbelem, in fact, it does a cd $(DEB_SRCDIR)
[03:27] <jbailey> rbelem: rather python-distutils.mk
[03:28] <rbelem> jbailey, Seveas: hum... i try it now
[03:28] <ElvenProgrammer> Seveas: i don't have internet connection where my ubuntu is
[03:28] <Seveas> _salomon_, should work, at which point exactly do you get the error, and can you be a bit more precise about the error
[03:28] <rbelem> jbailey, Seveas: then i come back here ;-)
[03:28] <jbailey> rbelem: FWIW, the relevant line in cdbs is         cd $(DEB_SRCDIR) && /usr/bin/python$(DEB_PYTHON_COMPILE_VERSION) $(DEB_PYTHON_SETUP_CMD) install --root=$(DEB_DESTDIR) $(DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_ALL) $(DEB_PYTHON_INSTALL_ARGS_$(cdbs_curpkg)
[03:28] <jbailey> rbelem: (and such), so it ought to be safe.
[03:29] <jbailey> rbelem: in -motu is fine, too.  Usually the community there handles the cdbs stuff fine, but I'll make sure that I respond.
[03:29] <rbelem> jbailey, i was there
[03:30] <_salomon_> seveas: ok, i'll try... i've got the error when it start to install the base system... about 1% then i've got the error.
[03:30] <Seveas> _salomon_, that very much sounds like a broken disk
[03:30] <Seveas> (cd that is)
[03:31] <Dekkard> Seveas: thanks for the help with that compile issue..been using Ubuntu since warty..never compiled a program till today..( im an idiot! )
[03:31] <hippys> hey buddies whats the meaning of eth0:9
[03:31] <Function> "ethernet 0"
[03:32] <Concord_Dawn> all ethernet devices from 1 to 10.
[03:32] <Function> oh
[03:32] <nightswim> it's a virtual interface
[03:32] <nightswim> isnt it?
[03:32] <Seveas> Dekkard, you know, that you never had to compile something until now is good :)
[03:32] <hippys> oh cool
[03:32] <Function> I thought it was just the first device
[03:32] <Seveas> it shows that Ubuntu works :)
[03:32] <_salomon_> seveas: are you shure? the CD seem to be ok.
[03:32] <hippys> how can i erase it
[03:32] <Function> because computers count from 0
[03:32] <rbelem> jbailey, Seveas, kiko: thanks i'll try and come back
[03:32] <Function> ;)
[03:32] <Dekkard> Seveas that is true.. all that apt tasty goodness..
[03:32] <Concord_Dawn> hippys, how many ethernet devices have you got on that computer?
[03:33] <srijith> has anyone installed an SMIME cert in Ubuntu firefox?
[03:33] <Dekkard> but than there comes along somethign for which ther is no build..and im an idiot.. should prollly try to learn how to build packages..
[03:33] <Dekkard> off to work
[03:33] <Concord_Dawn> Dekkard, compiling from source is win if there's nothing in the repositories.
[03:33] <fl> hi there
[03:33] <Concord_Dawn> hi fl
[03:34] <Dekkard> Concord_Dawn yes..exactly.. only use as a last resort
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> yup
[03:34] <Dekkard> i used to be a slacker..that was pretty much a regular thing..
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> because everything in the repos is pretty much guarenteed to work, else it wouldn't be in the repos :-P
[03:34] <aru> my power went out and now when I boot two of my drives don't show up, I'm pretty sure they are mounted, but I have no idea what to do now
[03:35] <sletz> hi, does ubuntu  5.04 use the NPTL library?
[03:35] <Concord_Dawn> aru, what happens exactly?
[03:35] <sletz> i need NPTL..... hiw can install it?
[03:35] <Concord_Dawn> does an error message come up saying "Can't find bootable device!" or something similar.
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> sletz, use Synaptic.
[03:36] <aru> when I open the Home Folder the drives have an X on the icon, if I try to cd to the directories they are empty
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> herm...
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> or
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> sletz, if it's not there, try Synaptic.
[03:36] <hippys> Concord_Dawn: just one,
[03:36] <samigaru> aru, ya have no permission to do that?
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> herm...google even
[03:37] <aru> samigaru: do the permissions change when the power goes out?
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> hippys, you should only have an interface called eth0 then.
[03:37] <sletz> i don't see NPTL in synaptic.
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> aru: possibly
[03:37] <aru> even as root the directories asre empty
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> sletz, try google.
[03:37] <Liu> hey, I've just installed ubuntu and wondered: what is the standard root password? I havnt choosed one during the installation
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> how do you mount them aru?
[03:37] <hippys> Concord_Dawn: yes i have one like that, and one virtual interface eth0:9
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> Liu: it's blank
[03:38] <thoreauputic> Concord_Dawn: it's possible to assign more than one interface to one card
[03:38] <hippys> Concord_Dawn: do you know how can i erase the eth0:9
[03:38] <Concord_Dawn> no I don't hippys
[03:38] <redguy> !tell Liu about root
[03:38] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[03:38] <aru> Concord_Dawn: I have them setup in fstab to mount to /home/aru/extra and /home/aru/book, you want the actual line?
[03:38] <Liu> thanks :)
[03:38] <redguy> Concord_Dawn: no it's not blank, it's not set
[03:38] <Concord_Dawn> herm..
[03:38] <thoreauputic> hippys: is it listed in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:39] <Concord_Dawn> you could argue that that's synonymous, but I'm not going to.
[03:39] <redguy> Concord_Dawn: not that I want to argue, but if it was blank you could just login as root and hit enter when login asks for a password
[03:40] <aru> so are my two extra hard drives blank now?
[03:40] <hotxSAUCE> how do u config the either netcard manually ?
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> redguy, you can't login as root in GDM.
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> unless you configure it that way.
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> trust me, I've tried.
[03:41] <fl> question to all: I'm resurrecting my PowerBook G3 series, and I would like to try Ubuntu. What do you think - does it make sense to test Breezy? I'm pretty familiar with Linux, and I figured that you might like reports better on something that is fresh...
[03:41] <fl> have to admit - currently trying to get the installer to run :-)
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> fl: go for it, if you think you can handle it.
[03:41] <thoreauputic> hotxSAUCE:  ifconfig,  man interfaces , /etc/network/interfaces
[03:42] <fek> re
[03:42] <redguy> aru: you sure that they are mounted? check the permissions of /home/aru/extra and /home/aru/book (x for directories is something different than for regular files)
[03:42] <fek> isn't it possible to mount a ncp fs from ubuntu?
[03:42] <Angel-SL> ./O
[03:42] <Angel-SL> :O
[03:42] <Angel-SL> Concord_Dawn: LOL
[03:42] <Angel-SL> is that you?
[03:42] <aru> ok how should I check permissions
[03:42] <fl> Concord_Dawn, are Breezy questions ok in here?
[03:42] <Concord_Dawn> afaik yes.
[03:43] <Concord_Dawn> possibly not though
[03:43] <Concord_Dawn> I just use Hoary.
[03:43] <seb128> kiko, rbelem-afk: pong
[03:43] <Concord_Dawn> As I r Linux n00b ^_^
[03:43] <redguy> fl: /topic
[03:43] <Angel-SL> Concord_Dawn: are you the concord dawn from irc.msgplus.net?
[03:43] <kiko> seb128, rbelem-afk was having a small packaging problem, but perhaps he's solved it, wait for him to unafk
[03:43] <Concord_Dawn> Angel-SL, yes.
[03:43] <fl> redguy, yeah, thanks. I can read.
[03:43] <BollocksMacenzie> Does anyone know a good audio editing application?
[03:44] <Angel-SL> Concord_Dawn: :O and i'm Fairy-NS.
[03:44] <sletz> ubuntu has libc 2.3.2 Hiw can i get and install a more recebet version?
[03:44] <Concord_Dawn> yeah I know.
[03:44] <seb128> kiko: k
[03:44] <redguy> aru: in terminal you would ls -l ~
[03:44] <BollocksMacenzie> Something which can edit MP3s and WAVs and maybe convert between?
[03:44] <Concord_Dawn> redguy, the topic doesn't specifically say "No Breezy questions" so can he ask Breezy questions or not?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> sletz: fooling with libc is a path to a world of pain
[03:44] <aru> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      4096 2005-07-11 05:26 extra
[03:44] <aru> theres one of them
[03:45] <Seveas> fl, breezy questions are fine, breezy X problems get the standard answer :)
[03:45] <Concord_Dawn> aru: you can only access those devices as root
[03:45] <Seveas> sletz, please don't fiddle with libc
[03:45] <Concord_Dawn> you can't access them as a normal user.
[03:45] <Seveas> what do you need a newer version for?
[03:46] <aru> Concord_Dawn: so if I open a root terminal and change to those directories I could see my files?
[03:46] <fl> Seveas, hehe, that's ok. I'm prepared to have the poor old PB churn thru the X compile :-)
[03:46] <Concord_Dawn> you should be able to, yes.
[03:46] <thoreauputic> Concord_Dawn: erm, those permissions allow read and execute for "others"
[03:46] <aru> Concord_Dawn: I just did and it shows nothing
[03:46] <thoreauputic> or read and acess
[03:46] <redguy> aru: and what does mount say? paste it to http://pastebin.com
[03:46] <thoreauputic> *access
[03:46] <sletz> i need to have NTPL how can i do that?
[03:46] <fl> oh man, I just totally forgot how MacOS 9 sucks. been using Linux too long now.
[03:46] <Concord_Dawn> thoreauputic, well, I'm just being safe as root owns those files.
[03:47] <Seveas> sletz, ubuntu has nptl
[03:47] <thoreauputic> Concord_Dawn: anyone should be able to read a dir with 755 permissions
[03:47] <Concord_Dawn> Well.
[03:47] <Concord_Dawn> You never know.
[03:47] <Concord_Dawn> didn't work anyways.
[03:48] <Concord_Dawn> aru, sounds like your device is hosed.
[03:48] <aru> son of a bitch
[03:48] <Seveas> aru, language...
[03:48] <iiiears> right clicking on a file using the gui to set permissions shows a changing chmod number - neat eh?
[03:49] <aru> well if you lost three months worth of work to a power outage youd say it too
[03:49] <redguy> aru: /home/aru/extra seems to be mounted
[03:49] <Concord_Dawn> iiiears, yeah
[03:49] <aru> and I've never had a power outage blank a drive
[03:49] <hippys> is there somebody who knows how to configure an usb modem
[03:49] <Seveas> aru, ouch....
[03:49] <Seveas> what's the symptom?
[03:49] <redguy> aru: no backups? that's sad
[03:50] <aru> there is
[03:50] <aru> but not for the past 13 days
[03:50] <Concord_Dawn> tbh
[03:50] <Concord_Dawn> I haven't backed up my drive in 2 months +
[03:50] <hippys> aru: are you talking about the modem
[03:50] <redguy> aru: maybe Seveas can help you... it seems odd that power failure would blan a partition
[03:50] <sletz> seveas: i try to use Posix sempahore but sem-open fails...
[03:51] <sletz> function not implemented...
[03:51] <redguy> s/blan/blank/
[03:51] <kemik> aru:  try some diskrecovery application maybe
[03:52] <iiiears> "Helix" or "linux sleuth kit"
[03:52] <thoreauputic> aru: what are the permissions on /home/aru ? ls -ld /home/aru
[03:53] <Seveas> sletz, hmm, that already is far beyond my nptl knowledge
[03:53] <Seveas> apt-cache show libc6-i686 says that nptl support is enabled
[03:53] <aru> drwxr-xr-x  37 aru aru 4096 2005-08-17 06:30 /home/aru
[03:53] <Seveas> maybe you need another headerfile
[03:54] <thoreauputic> aru: OK that looks fine - just checking
[03:54] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know a good program to back Linux up with?
[03:54] <cafuego> tar
[03:54] <Seveas> mondo/mindi
[03:54] <fl> amanda is nice, but probably overkill
[03:54] <redguy> aru: what does df say?
[03:54] <cafuego> rsync
[03:54] <ElvenII> Seveas, Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:55] <fl> rsync the stuff to a remote machine, and pull that down to a DVD
[03:55] <Concord_Dawn> fl, no got a remote machine
[03:55] <fl> you could do some nice tricks with lndir to create "snapshot" style functionality
[03:55] <Concord_Dawn> actually...
[03:56] <cafuego> fl: uh-huh
[03:56] <Concord_Dawn> damnit
[03:56] <Concord_Dawn> I WANT MY OTHER COMPUTEr.
[03:56] <Seveas> redguy, that says his disks are completely empty :|
[03:56] <fl> then just down to external media
[03:56] <iiiears> mondo backup utility has a lot of features
[03:56] <cafuego> rsync at night; burn to dvd
[03:56] <pablof> hi, my pendrive not mount automatic.
[03:56] <fl> here's a good article: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[03:56] <pablof> on breezy
[03:57] <cafuego> pablof: /topic
[03:57] <iiiears> nice link - thanks
[03:57] <Concord_Dawn> cafuego, breezy questiosn are allowed in here.
[03:57] <pablof> ok, sorry
[03:57] <cafuego> Concord_Dawn: of course.
[03:58] <redguy> Seveas, aru: ouch!
[03:58] <Seveas> pablof, known problem on breezy -- being fixed.
[03:58] <cafuego> Concord_Dawn: so is answering those questions.
[03:58] <cafuego> Concord_Dawn: be it with an actual answer or with 'you idiot!'
[03:58] <fl> What this Mike Rubel guy does is a lot like the NetApp snapshot feature - unfortunately, a NetApp filer starts at ~ 20 k :-(
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> tbh
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> NetBackup wins
[03:59] <pablof> Seveas: i make  dist-upgrade and not fix...
[03:59] <fl> hehe *any* backup wins :-)
[03:59] <pablof> Seveas: not mount cdrom too
[03:59] <Concord_Dawn> but netbackup wins++. :-P
[03:59] <Concord_Dawn> My dad's company makes it :-P
[04:00] <Angel-SL> gimmmmmmmmmmme!
[04:00] <srijith> just trying my luck again.. anyone installed an SMIME cert in Ubuntu Firefox?
[04:01] <Concord_Dawn> why is an 8 yr old using Linux? =\
[04:01] <pablof> Seveas: my fstab not update when plug usb or put cdrom in drive
[04:01] <pablof> have any bug in fstab-sync ?
[04:01] <Concord_Dawn> pablof, it's a known bug in Breezy, it's being fixed.
[04:03] <pablof> ok
[04:03] <Solid> where can i find Sigc++?
[04:03] <ElvenProgrammer> has the livecd got ssh server?
[04:03] <aru> how do I umount the drives if it keeps telling me they are busy?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> ElvenProgrammer: I doubt it - probably client only
[04:04] <guydebord> had a hard time getting into ubuntu channel today. Had to change my nickname.
[04:04] <fl> aru: try lsof to see what's using the disk
[04:04] <Concord_Dawn> tbh.
[04:04] <Concord_Dawn> you can't.
[04:04] <Concord_Dawn> it's diamond plated
[04:05] <aru> fl: gam_serve <- what is that?
[04:05] <thoreauputic> Concord_Dawn: man umount - look for the -l flag or "lazy umount"
[04:05] <fl> aru, sorry, no idea.
[04:05] <thoreauputic> aru: it's the file alteration monitor
[04:06] <thoreauputic> aru: it's gamin, which replaced fam
[04:06] <aru> thoreauputic: whats that mean and how do I kill it?
[04:06] <kemik> aru:  lazy unmount, or use FUSER to see which process is using the device
[04:06] <Bags> cafuego, I'm back.
[04:06] <Bags> cafuego, Are you still keen to hear about my little dilemma?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> aru: it might show up if you do a ps aux | grep gam
[04:07] <thoreauputic> aru: if so, you can kill the process ID number
[04:07] <fl> aru: do you want to shutdown cleanly or unclean? unclean -> use fuser -k to kill whatever process is accessing the directory
[04:07] <hippys> are the usb modem old
[04:07] <thoreauputic> aru: else you can try  sudo killall gam
[04:07] <aru> WOOT
[04:08] <aru> fsck'd my disks and they are back
[04:08] <paulproteus> aru: Whew! :)
[04:08] <thoreauputic> aru: yay! \o/
[04:08] <guydebord> Little thing bugs me about openoffice. The text on my wide-screen laptop is really stretched horizontally. No problem with icons or printout. And scale change in options>view makes everything small. Any suggestions?
[04:08] <aru> I'm gunna go ahead and back everything up on dvds right now
[04:09] <fl> aru: another saved sould who's going to make backups, right?
[04:09] <fl> :-)
[04:09] <aru> thanks everyone for your help
[04:09] <Bags> Anyone in the room know anything about resetting a PPC G4's Open Firmware config?
[04:10] <Bags> I've a G4 with a failed Ubuntu installation now refusing to boot into anything.
[04:10] <Bags> I can't even get Open Firmware console, single user console, boot partition selection screen, just black...
[04:10] <fl> usually resetting the PRAM to default values would be CMD-OPT-P-R
[04:11] <redguy> Bags: no luck with netbooting? or wasn't it you?
[04:11] <fl> I'm not sure if that also touches OF, because I have a Oldworld machine
[04:11] <Solid> my installation stucks at "Testing Network repository" at 50%
[04:13] <fl> Bags: just checked, docs say that zapping the PRAM should also reset NVRAM and OF config.
[04:14] <mr_daemon> Hello~
[04:15] <mr_daemon> I am highly considering running ubuntu on my G3 iBook... any caveats that I should be aware of?
[04:15] <mr_daemon> Such as, how is sleep support?
[04:18] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:20] <zukalk> rod_, hey
[04:20] <dirty> what package contains alsaconf?
[04:21] <theD3viL> why alsaconf ?
[04:21] <dirty> i have 2 soundcards and the install decected the wrong card
[04:21] <theD3viL> aha
[04:21] <theD3viL> dunno
[04:21] <thoreauputic> dirty: ubuntu doesn't have alsaconf, for whatever reason
[04:21] <dirty> ahh ok, thought i was nuts or something
[04:21] <dirty> thought i was calling it the wrong thing
[04:21] <dirty> thanks thoreauputic
[04:22] <thoreauputic> dirty: apparently it was "cusing more problems than it solved"
[04:22] <thoreauputic> *causing
[04:22] <fek> isn't it possible to mount a ncp fs from ubuntu?
[04:22] <dirty> thoreauputic: thats odd :P
[04:22] <thoreauputic> dirty: no worries :)
[04:22] <fek> mount couldn't handle "ncp"
[04:22] <theD3viL> I just wondering why all the peoples using ubuntu?
[04:22] <theD3viL> i using ubuntu too... but why all? ;)
[04:22] <thoreauputic> dirty: yeah - just passsing on what one of the devs said about it
[04:23] <dirty> theD3viL: im comming from arch linux to test and i can tell you already :P
[04:23] <robin_> because it is for ppl lazy to use debian :)
[04:23] <theD3viL> dirty, tell me :)
[04:23] <dirty> for lap tops its a dream
[04:23] <dirty> somestimes robust is a good thing
[04:24] <dirty> i wish i was lucky enought to start with it
[04:24] <dirty> *enough
[04:24] <deric> hi all, install question here.  My dad has a windows computer which I'm not allowed to modify the hard drive.  But I want to use Ubuntu on it (Im running the liveCD now).  I have an NFS server on the network.  How hard would it be to set up an nfs-root ubuntu system?  any pointers?
[04:25] <arphetic> hello
[04:25] <Solid> TRy Ubuntu On VMWARE
[04:25] <fek> hello?
[04:25] <RootX|Arphetic> does ubuntu have a update function
[04:25] <theD3viL> RootX|Arphetic, yes
[04:25] <RootX|Arphetic> ok
[04:28] <RootX|Arphetic> Is it possible to update from 4.2 to 5.
[04:28] <RootX|Arphetic> ?
[04:28] <RootX|Arphetic> or w/e versions i have
[04:28] <theD3viL> yes
[04:28] <theD3viL> just upgrade-dist
[04:28] <nophix> dist-upgrade? :)
[04:28] <theD3viL> modify your source.list and apt-get update, apt-get upgrade-dist
[04:28] <apokryphos> !upgrade
[04:28] <ubotu> upgrade is probably "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:28] <theD3viL> yes..
[04:29] <nophix> simple
[04:29] <iiiears> ubotu rsync is also http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/#Isolation
[04:29] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[04:29] <RootX|Arphetic> err
[04:29] <co-piolet> hello i want help
[04:29] <co-piolet> is there any one who help me
[04:29] <apokryphos> !helpme
[04:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:30] <co-piolet> i want to get free cds of linux can i get them
[04:30] <co-piolet> ?
[04:30] <RootX|Arphetic> sudo
[04:30] <apokryphos> !shipit
[04:30] <ubotu> hmm... shipit is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/shipit/link_view
[04:30] <apokryphos> co-piolet: yes; check that link.
[04:31] <co-piolet> thx ubotu
[04:31] <co-piolet> Oh! ubotu,
[04:31] <co-piolet> Did u ever fall in love,but knew they didn't care?
[04:31] <co-piolet> U cry all night in misery,and almost go insane.
[04:32] <co-piolet> There's nothing in this world ,that cause so much pain.
[04:32] <apokryphos> co-piolet: this is #ubuntu
[04:32] <co-piolet> If I could choose life or death,I would rather die.
[04:32] <co-piolet> So don't fall in love,you'll be hurt before it's over.
[04:32] <co-piolet> But ubotu, I should have know.
[04:32] <co-piolet> I FELL IN LOVE WITH YOU
[04:32] <thoreauputic> hahah
[04:32] <apokryphos> :|
[04:32] <thoreauputic> a love song to ubotu!
[04:32] <nophix> love is in the air
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[04:32] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[04:33] <echylo> !sing a song for bot
[04:33] <ubotu> echylo: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:33] <apokryphos> ubotu: love
[04:33] <ubotu> love is probably life
[04:33] <echylo> :(
[04:33] <echylo> ubotu, ubuntu
[04:33] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[04:33] <apokryphos> heh
[04:33] <echylo> ubotu daemon
[04:33] <ubotu> echylo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:33] <echylo> hmm
[04:33] <echylo> you can't ask it questions? :P
[04:34] <RootX|Arphetic> ah done
[04:34] <Seveas> echylo, please don't play with it...
[04:34] <echylo> oh the "forget" thing right?
[04:34] <echylo> :p
[04:34] <echylo> no ok
[04:36] <Kyral> !awards
[04:36] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[04:37] <RootX|Arphetic> upgrade is probably "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:37] <RootX|Arphetic> does this update to hoary?
[04:37] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: correct
[04:37] <RootX|Arphetic> or to warty
[04:37] <RootX|Arphetic> dunno which one is the newest
[04:37] <apokryphos> you can't ugprade to warty... it's the first ever version of Ubuntu.
[04:38] <RootX|Arphetic> update to breezy
[04:38] <Kyral> NOOO!
[04:38] <RootX|Arphetic> w/e
[04:38] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: at your own peril, sure.
[04:38] <Kyral> Breezy == UNSTABLE
[04:38] <co-piolet> where i will get the drivers of linux
[04:38] <Kyral> I'm running it but I lost 3D Accel in the upgrade
[04:38] <RootX|Arphetic> Does this update to the 5.* version?
[04:38] <RootX|Arphetic> ;)
[04:38] <co-piolet> where i will get the drivers of linux
[04:39] <co-piolet> ?
[04:39] <Kyral> Hoary == 5.04
[04:39] <Kyral> co-piolet, for what?
[04:39] <co-piolet> where i will get the drivers of linux?
[04:39] <fl> any ideas why an oldWorld G3 series Powerbook would stop booting the kernel right after setup_arch and arch? I'm using bootX, Partition where the kernel is  HFS
[04:39] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: Warty is 4.10; the above upgrades Warty to Hoary (5.04)
[04:39] <co-piolet> for modem display
[04:39] <thenuke> co-piolet: drivers for what
[04:39] <apokryphos> co-piolet: you don't need to ask a million times in a minute.
[04:39] <co-piolet> ok sorry
[04:39] <RootX|Arphetic> apokryphos,  so it updates to 5.04
[04:39] <thenuke> co-piolet: modem? or display :)    there is no modem display :] 
[04:39] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: well, yes.
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> fl, possibly because the FS blows? :-P
[04:39] <RootX|Arphetic> ok
[04:39] <co-piolet> for modem and display
[04:39] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: if you're on Warty
[04:40] <RootX|Arphetic> well i guess so
[04:40] <RootX|Arphetic> i just installed it from the CD so
[04:40] <RootX|Arphetic> ;)
[04:40] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: you installed warty from the CD?
[04:40] <co-piolet> after installing the cd will it ask me for drivers like in windows or not
[04:40] <fl> Concord_Dawn, hmm, HFS is not so bad after all. There's uglier beasts. I'll try without the initrd, maybe I'll see more.
[04:40] <Kyral> co-piolet, no
[04:40] <guydebord> I wanna SHRINK THE width of written text in open office. But, just in view, printout is fine. I dont want to shrink the icon text either, happens in format>options>view>scale. Any suggestions?
[04:41] <Kyral> most of the drivers are in the kernel
[04:41] <Kyral> and auto-detected at that
[04:41] <co-piolet> it will install it on pentium 4
[04:41] <RootX|Arphetic> apokryphos, i just installed from the shipit CD's
[04:41] <nuria> alguien en espa?ol???
[04:41] <Kyral> which reminds me I have to recompile the stupid 2.6.12 kernel that Breezy HAD to install
[04:41] <fl> oh, hmm, maybe bootX has the classic 2GB problem...
[04:41] <Kyral> co-piolet, yes
[04:41] <guydebord> hablo espaol
[04:42] <Kyral> espanol en #ubuntu-es
[04:42] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: that means you could have either. Is it installed now? What's the output of cat /etc/issue ?
[04:42] <co-piolet> Kyral , will it ask for new drivers after installing or not
[04:42] <Kyral> co-piolet, no
[04:42] <co-piolet> 100% gaurentee
[04:42] <co-piolet> ?
[04:42] <Kyral> I can gaurentee that it will not ask for drivers
[04:43] <Kyral> I cannot gaurentee that it will work :P
[04:43] <co-piolet> Kyral ok thank you very much
[04:43] <co-piolet> one poem for you kyral
[04:43] <iiiears> heh
[04:43] <RootX|Arphetic> Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l
[04:43] <co-piolet> Oh! Kyral,
[04:43] <co-piolet> I as a man,I wanted to love you,
[04:43] <Kyral> .....
[04:43] <apokryphos> oO
[04:43] <guydebord> I wanna SHRINK THE width of written text in open office. But, just in view, printout is fine. I dont want to shrink the icon text either, happens in format>options>view>scale. Any suggestions?
[04:43] <co-piolet> Cares for you,
[04:43] <co-piolet> Possess you,
[04:43] <co-piolet> and attempt to make you believe in me.
[04:43] <RootX|Arphetic> OLD cd's ;)
[04:43] <co-piolet> My love creates a knot that will be united forever,
[04:43] <thoreauputic> co-piolet: please, this isn't a poetry channel
[04:43] <co-piolet> throughout my whole life.
[04:44] <Kyral> ....
[04:44] <co-piolet> This is the gift that god gives you.
[04:44] <Kyral> okaaaay.....getting creepy
[04:45] <RootX|Arphetic> I hate Gnome
[04:45] <RootX|Arphetic> i think i gonna install blackbox or so
[04:45] <RootX|Arphetic> :/
[04:45] <Kyral> I <3 GNOME :D
[04:45] <apokryphos> RootX|Arphetic: *hate*? Why?
[04:45] <RootX|Arphetic> <3 = ?
[04:45] <RootX|Arphetic> apokryphos, its... erm
[04:45] <Kyral> <3 == Heart [04:45] <RootX|Arphetic> dunno in english
[04:45] <iiiears> gnome is nice if your system is recent
[04:46] <RootX|Arphetic> Kyral, rofl \^^/ this does even look more like a hart
[04:46] <RootX|Arphetic> heart
[04:46] <apokryphos> iiiears: it's hardly that cpu-intensive; should be decent enough on vast majority of comps.
[04:46] <nuria> anybody knows how to comunnicate a zen micro with ubuntu?
[04:46] <iiiears> very true
[04:46] <ABRAXAS77> hello
[04:46] <ABRAXAS77> somebody knows how can I install stdc++?
[04:46] <apokryphos> hi
[04:47] <RootX|Arphetic> hello
[04:47] <RootX|Arphetic> err
[04:47] <iiiears> KDE is flashy. - still didn't like it as much
[04:47] <theD3viL> KDE works slowly than gnome :S
[04:47] <ABRAXAS77> plz
[04:47] <reiki> Seveas alive?
[04:48] <lee> is anybody here able to use alsasink as the audio sink under System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector?  I'm running hoary, and I get an error about failing to construct pipeline (and I have no idea how to fix it)
[04:48] <apokryphos> theD3viL: always depends on who you ask =)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> iiiears: yes , KDE appeals to a quite different set of aesthetic tastes than gnome ;)
[04:48] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: what? People who have some? ;-)
[04:48] <apokryphos> [/troll] 
[04:48] <theD3viL> hm... is it mather which kernel do i have (386, k7)?
[04:49] <apokryphos> theD3viL: yes. You should get the one that suits your CPU
[04:49] <iiiears> lee has an interesting question.
[04:49] <reiki> using the <pastebin>/969 posting for sources.list I get 48 updates available after a fresh install. Just go ahead and allow the updates to happen?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: heh - I'm actually an artist so.... I tend to think all desktops are shall we say , a bit crass ;)
[04:49] <theD3viL> apokryphos, which kernel is for AMD Athlon XP 2600+ ?
[04:49] <RootX|Arphetic> They should standerd include Mercury into ubuntu instead of that crappy gaim
[04:49] <apokryphos> theD3viL: k7
[04:50] <theD3viL> tnx
[04:50] <theD3viL> apokryphos, only kernel-image?
[04:50] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: hehe. I guess we can just hope for the future; you checked out the appeal site? Some hopeful things there :)
[04:50] <lee> iiiears: the important thing is, does anybody have an interesting answer =)
[04:50] <apokryphos> theD3viL: no, linux-k7
[04:50] <Jowi> xorg gives me error for DRI ([drm]  failed to load kernel module "via") and my /dev/dri/ dir is empty
[04:51] <Jowi> anyone know how to enable via dri?
[04:51] <theD3viL> apokryphos, than, kernel-image, linux-k7, and ?
[04:51] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: my trouble is whenever I use the gimp I feel like getting a brush and some oil paint... digital images are limiting
[04:51] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: whole project dedicated to, among other things, making kde "breathtakingly beautiful"
[04:51] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: Totally agree, but for some it's their preferred medium
[04:52] <iiiears> lee it's a long shot but, let's quiz the bot. - impish grin
[04:52] <iiiears> !sound
[04:52] <ubotu> I guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[04:52] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: yes, I'm speaking personally of course
[04:52] <apokryphos> theD3viL: just the linux-k7 will get you the appropriate kernel for AMDs
[04:52] <Jowi> !dri
[04:52] <ubotu> Jowi: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:52] <iiiears> !esd
[04:52] <ubotu> esd is, like, Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[04:52] <fl> aaahh shucks. 2.6.12-3-powerpc doesn't want to boot.
[04:52] <iiiears> !alsa
[04:52] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:52] <theD3viL> apokryphos, aha..tnx a lot.
[04:52] <thoreauputic> if only that esd factoid were true :/
[04:52] <Jowi> !via
[04:53] <ubotu> Jowi: What?
[04:53] <iiiears> ubotu are you a savant?
[04:53] <ubotu> iiiears: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:53] <lee> ubotu, botsnack
[04:53] <ubotu> :)
[04:53] <ABRAXAS77> somebody can help me please?
[04:53] <apokryphos> !helpme
[04:53] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:53] <ABRAXAS77> i asked
[04:53] <thoreauputic> !!find  stdc++
[04:53] <ABRAXAS77> i need install stdc++ library
[04:53] <ubotu> Not a clue, thoreauputic
[04:54] <thoreauputic> bah
[04:54] <Jowi> Does anyone know what's up with xorg, via CLE266 and DRI? Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> !find  stdc++
[04:54] <iiiears> !ubotu
[04:54] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:54] <ABRAXAS77> thomerz,  "the packet or directory doesnt exist"
[04:54] <Seveas> people, don't play with ubotu...
[04:54] <vagamente> any GWC user?
[04:54] <Seveas> if you don;t know how he works, msg him
[04:54] <apokryphos> iiiears: better to just play in /msg
[04:55] <iiiears> ubotu helpme is also see what i know here http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[04:55] <thoreauputic> ABRAXAS77: OK you need a better description of what you are looking for
[04:55] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, you need libstdc++6
[04:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'stdc++' returned no results.
[04:55] <redguy> Jowi: indeed is a simple google search more effort than asking here? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24680.html
[04:56] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  how?, apt-get install libstdc++6 doesnt work
[04:56] <paulproteus> ABRAXAS77: Try build-essential.
[04:56] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, paste the error on the pastebin
[04:56] <mjr> which identd would people suggest?
[04:56] <Seveas> pidentd
[04:56] <theD3viL> apokryphos, is 2.6-10 k7 lastes stable kernel?
[04:56] <mjr> ack
[04:57] <Seveas> theD3viL, for hoary on amd processors: yes
[04:57] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  http://pastebin.com/339055
[04:57] <apokryphos> theD3viL: yes
[04:57] <theD3viL> Seveas, apokryphos, tnx
[04:57] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, so you already have it...
[04:57] <RootX|Arphetic> BTW anyone has an idea on how to get all the linux partitions off?
[04:57] <Seveas> if you need to compile things against it get the libstdc++6-dev package
[04:58] <RootX|Arphetic> as preperation for installing wind00s
[04:58] <Jowi> redguy, crap. i thought it might have been solved already. i've had this bloody DRI problem for two years now. dri.sourceforge.net only has very limited info.
[04:58] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Sure.  Run cfdisk from Linux, and delete all the partitions.
[04:58] <Jowi> redguy, thanks though
[04:58] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic, fdisk from a windows cp/floppy will do too
[04:58] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas, so why i receive this error? configure: error: stdc++ library not found
[04:58] <Seveas> if you need to compile things against it get the libstdc++6-dev package <-------
[04:58] <fl> yay! it boots ;-) the display settings on oldworld macs are really funny sometimes.
[04:59] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  installing
[04:59] <ABRAXAS77> thnx seb128
[04:59] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  sorry
[04:59] <fl> Concord_Dawn, it was the display setting.
[04:59] <iiiears> ubotu alsa is also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:59] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[04:59] <iiiears> ubotu sound is also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:59] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
 RootX|Arphetic, fdisk from a windows cp/floppy will do to <- FDisk cant remove linux partitions, it will error on logical disk stuff
 RootX|Arphetic: Sure.  Run cfdisk from Linux, and delete all the partitions <- cfdisk from linux?
[05:00] <echylo> where is the log file for incoming connections on apache(port 80)?
[05:00] <reiki> Seveas: using the <pastebin>/969 posting for sources.list I get 48 updates available after a fresh install. Just go ahead and allow the updates to happen?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> iiiears: the way you're going, ubotu will be spitting out factoids as long as War and Peace ;-)
[05:00] <Seveas> reiki, yes, these are security updates
[05:00] <reiki> just checking to make sure I'm current and not using incorrect source.list
[05:00] <kakabajs> are there any way to save Eterms between sessions? except in the Startup Programs Tab under Sessions?
[05:00] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Step 1.  Boot into Linux.  Step 2: Do "sudo cfdisk" at a terminal.  Step 3: Navigate the menus and delete every partition.  Step 4: Save and quit cfdisk.
[05:00] <Srekel> like, adding them to a .bashrc script or something?
[05:00] <iiiears> nah - maybe the guiness book but not war and peace.
[05:01] <Srekel> although I tried that and that just spawned one Eterm after another ;)
[05:01] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, you mean with lifedisk?
[05:01] <ksmurf> antone using breezy yet?  I'm having issues getting my iriver to mount
[05:01] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Huh?  What's lifedisk?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Ive used some versions of windows fdisk that could deltet linux partitions.
[05:01] <RootX|Arphetic> life cd
[05:01] <echylo> where is the log file for incoming connections on apache(port 80)? anyone ?
[05:02] <icewt> echylo, /var/log/apache ?
[05:02] <echylo> hmm ok
[05:02] <echylo> thanks
[05:02] <thoreauputic> Srekel: you want to save eterms, or sessions *in* eterms? For the latter you would use the GNU screen program and detach/ re-attach...
[05:03] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, Ubuntu Life CD
[05:03] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Li*v*e CD.
[05:03] <Srekel> well, I want to start a couple of transparent eterms when I log in
[05:03] <paulproteus> Yeah, the Live CD would be fine for this.
[05:03] <deufo> hi, is it possible to get hibernate in xfce?
[05:03] <ksmurf> ok it sees my iriver using lsusb ... so what now
[05:03] <Kyral> hmmm, what if....
[05:03] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, ?
[05:03] <Kyral> is it bad for my kernel to have it be bloated?
[05:04] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: It's called a Live CD.
[05:04] <paulproteus> *V* not *F*.  LIVE, not LIFE.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Kyral,  proberly not worth worrying about.
[05:04] <paulproteus> So I didn't know what you were referring to.
[05:04] <paulproteus> Yes, the Live CD would be fine.
[05:04] <RootX|Arphetic> So im in shell now
[05:04] <Kyral> yah
[05:04] <thoreauputic> Srekel: you realise the gnome-terminal can do transparency too, I guess?
[05:04] <RootX|Arphetic> cfdisk ?/
[05:04] <paulproteus> I wrote exactly what to type above.
[05:04] <Kyral> 'cause when I compile kernels I'm the guy that doesn't take chances and enables just about everything :P
[05:04] <theD3viL> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox-gnome-support <- wtf is this?
[05:04] <deric> paulprotteus: (its eric) suspend did not work out-of-box ;)
[05:05] <paulproteus> deric: So I guessed. :)
[05:05] <Srekel> thoreauputic, yes, but I didn't find a way to remove the borders from it (probably just as simple)
[05:05] <paulproteus> I guess I owe you a soda or something. ;)
[05:05] <Seveas> theD3viL, do NOT use backports firefox packages...
[05:05] <deufo> when i load gnome panel in xfce and press logout, there isn't a hibernate option
[05:05] <theD3viL> hmmm
[05:05] <theD3viL> so i must change source.list ?
[05:05] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, neither sudo or cfdisk will work with livecd
[05:05] <deric> paulproteus: any pointers to docs on doing an nfsroot setup?
[05:05] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Why not?
[05:05] <deric> RootX|Arphetic: sudo works fine (running liveCD now)
[05:06] <RootX|Arphetic> its not on it?
[05:06] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  continues with the error
[05:06] <Solid> hey can anyone tell me why my installation stucs at "configuring atp" "Testing network repositary" at 50%
[05:06] <RootX|Arphetic> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[05:06] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  configure: error: stdc++ library not found
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Srekel: hmm - more a window manager function I think - trivially easy with fluxbox but metacity is... inflexible
[05:06] <RootX|Arphetic> its the warty version
[05:06] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, what are ou compiling
[05:06] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Oh, the Warty one.
[05:06] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Do sudo fdisk , then.
[05:06] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  amsn, the svc version
[05:06] <RootX|Arphetic> sudo doesnt work
[05:06] <paulproteus> deric: I don't know anything specific.  I would look for docs for Debian, and just apply them to Ubuntu.
[05:06] <ksmurf> anyone?
[05:06] <RootX|Arphetic> :/
[05:06] <icewt> theD3viL, or just uninstall mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support before installing firefox and firefox-gnome-support
[05:06] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, sudo apt-get build-dep amsn
[05:06] <Srekel> thoreauputic, ok. is it easy to change to fluxbox? if so, where should I look for more information on it
[05:06] <Seveas> that will enable you to build it
[05:07] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  yes,but the svc version
[05:07] <ABRAXAS77> ok
[05:07] <Seveas> *build-dep*
[05:07] <Seveas> not install
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Srekel: apt-cache show fluxbox  and http://fluxbox.org
[05:07] <theD3viL> icewt, will my bookmarks erase ?
[05:07] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  the error continues
[05:07] <icewt> theD3viL, no
[05:07] <ksmurf> lsusb gives me a list of my usb devices but how do I mount my irver?
[05:07] <Srekel> thoreauputic, thanks again for your help :)
[05:08] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Do you mind erasing the whole disk?
[05:08] <ABRAXAS77> ah,ok
[05:08] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  sorry
[05:08] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: There's a stronger command we can apply that'll erase all partitions.
[05:08] <fl> is there some magic with "configure multiseat system"? the inst step fails with a Breezy colony 2 CD
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Srekel: no worries :)
[05:08] <Solid> anyone?
[05:08] <supernix> does anyone here use like a diary or journal ?
[05:08] <thenuke> supernix: if does, so what
[05:08] <paulproteus> supernix: Many people use livejournal on the web for that.
[05:09] <Seveas> supernix, does blog count :)
[05:09] <paulproteus> fl: I've been trying to get that to work since Hoary; no dice for me.
[05:09] <supernix> hmmm I just was looking for a program to use on my kubuntu
[05:09] <icewt> theD3viL, your settings won't be touched unless you use --purge when uninstalling. and even then your personal firefox settings (including bookmarks) are preserved
[05:09] <supernix> I thought about online diary but fear that everything might not be so private
[05:09] <paulproteus> supernix: There are LiveJournal clients in Ubuntu. ;)
[05:10] <paulproteus> supernix: Usually, if I want to leave a note, I do:
[05:10] <thunderzomx> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:10] <paulproteus> $EDITOR `date -I`
[05:10] <supernix> paulproteus: what programs are on there ?
[05:10] <paulproteus> supernix: I don't recall exactly; use the search in Synaptic.
[05:10] <supernix> ok
[05:10] <paulproteus> apt-cache search will also do.
[05:10] <Seveas> !es
[05:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:10] <Seveas> ^-- thunderzomx
[05:10] <supernix> I know that KDE has something that is like a diary
[05:10] <thunderzomx> gracias
[05:10] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, the whole disk HAS To be errased, removing al partitions and stuff
[05:10] <thunderzomx> arigat
[05:11] <eliphas_> de nada
[05:11] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Okay.
[05:11] <apokryphos> supernix: a journal, yes; part of KOrganizer
[05:11] <deufo> eliphas_, hey, remember me?  i ran gnome-panel from xfce but there is no hibernate option in the gnome-panels logout thing
[05:11] <eliphas_> ah
[05:11] <Seveas> deufo, that's only available in gnome
[05:11] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[05:11] <RootX|Arphetic> w00t i really enjoy this you know... You have new mail in /var/mail/arphetic
[05:11] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: After that's finished, the disk will be blanked.
[05:11] <Seveas> or in gdm
[05:11] <deufo> Seveas, so is there anyway to have hibernate in xfce?
[05:12] <Seveas> no
[05:12] <fl> paulproteus, ok. I'll disregard it for now. Maybe dig in later. A serial console would sure be nice. Oh why did I have to unearth my Powerbook.
[05:12] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, ... S U D O   D O E S N T   W O R K
[05:12] <RootX|Arphetic> :)
[05:12] <deufo> Seveas, i dun have suspend in gdm as well
[05:12] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Try "sudo id"
[05:12] <paulproteus> What do you mean, it doesn't work?
[05:12] <paulproteus> !doesntwork
[05:12] <ubotu> paulproteus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:12] <Solid> i can't install ubuntu
[05:12] <RootX|Arphetic> well lets see
[05:12] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic, drop the caps and be more descriptive.
[05:13] <fl> ah, such a nice thing to squelch the bot :-)
[05:13] <RootX|Arphetic> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[05:13] <Solid> my installation stucs at "configuring atp" "Testing network repositary" at 50%
[05:13] <RootX|Arphetic> that good enough?
[05:13] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  config.status: error: cannot find input file: utils/linux/capture/config.h.in
[05:13] <iiiears> RootX|Arphetic, - grab a cold drink take a deep breath.
[05:13] <fl> is it possible that the mesh driver is not (yet) included in the breezy install kernel?
[05:13] <paulproteus> "Error 27"?
[05:13] <paulproteus> Are you at a terminal?
[05:13] <RootX|Arphetic> iiiears, ill just grab a drink
[05:13] <Solid> anyone!!!???
[05:13] <paulproteus> Did you boot the Live CD?
[05:13] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, im just in livecd
[05:13] <RootX|Arphetic> ;)
[05:14] <deufo> Solid, u sure ur network thing is plugged in?
[05:14] <Solid> yeah
[05:14] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, make distclean
[05:14] <XandriX> can anybody tell me why i orderd my ubuntu install discs last april and i still havent recieved any yet my friend who lives 4 streets from me got his
[05:14] <Seveas> or rm config.status
[05:14] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl this is like... my first time EVER i use a live CD ;)_
[05:14] <Solid> Im On VMWARE
[05:14] <Goek> does anyone how to make a vcd or svcd file from a avi/divx file?
[05:14] <deufo> Solid, o rite, sry i dunno about vmware
[05:14] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: "in livecd" - has it booted?
[05:14] <RootX|Arphetic> yes
[05:14] <paulproteus> Are you at a GNOME desktop?
[05:14] <RootX|Arphetic> grub> _...
[05:15] <iiiears> Solid - are you connected to the 'net when it stops? - it will "time out" and continue
[05:15] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  make distclean give me long error
[05:15] <RootX|Arphetic> no
[05:15] <RootX|Arphetic> im in shell
[05:15] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Then press <enter>.
[05:15] <RootX|Arphetic> ?
[05:15] <RootX|Arphetic> grub> _
[05:15] <Seveas> ABRAXAS77, remove the extracted sources completely
[05:15] <RootX|Arphetic> nothing changed
[05:15] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: You're crazy. ;)
[05:15] <Seveas> and re-extract the tarball with the sources
[05:15] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, u pressed "e" in grub?
[05:15] <paulproteus> Reboot and don't press any key until you see GNOME.
[05:15] <paulproteus> That's the "grub command line".  "Shell" refers to a program in GNOME.
[05:16] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, i cant run gnome
[05:16] <XandriX> anyone ?
[05:16] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Why not?
[05:16] <RootX|Arphetic> its to slow
[05:16] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Please, trust me on this.
[05:16] <RootX|Arphetic> however there is a terminal functin
[05:16] <RootX|Arphetic> ok
[05:16] <paulproteus> Just get to GNOME so we can run one command.
[05:16] <Seveas> rm -rf /
[05:16] <paulproteus> It'll be slow, but you'll run the one command and get out.
[05:16] <RootX|Arphetic> im not gonna touch the laptop now
[05:16] <thespiritoftal> how can i extract a bzip archive?
[05:16] <XandriX> Seveas, evil person you are
[05:17] <deufo> anyone anyway to get software suspend in xfce?
[05:17] <Seveas> ssssst >:)
[05:17] <RootX|Arphetic> err
[05:17] <RootX|Arphetic> im back to grub> _
[05:17] <iiiears> !tar
[05:17] <ubotu> iiiears: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:17] <RootX|Arphetic> didnt touch it yet
[05:17] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, did u touch nething?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> thespiritoftal: tar xjcf foo.tar.bz2  ?
[05:17] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, maybe a esc or a e?
[05:17] <XandriX> anyone know why i orderd my ubuntu install discs last april and i still havent recieved any yet my friend who lives 4 streets from me got his
[05:17] <thoreauputic> oops
[05:17] <RootX|Arphetic> nope
[05:17] <thoreauputic> thespiritoftal: ignore that
[05:17] <RootX|Arphetic> in matter of fact, i didnt even touch the laptop at all
[05:18] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: You're not booting from the CD....
[05:18] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, did u use the default installation?
[05:18] <paulproteus> You're booting from the hard drive, then.
[05:18] <thespiritoftal> thoreauputic: ?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> thespiritoftal: tar xvjf foo.tar.bz2
[05:18] <thespiritoftal> thoreauputic: thx
[05:18] <XandriX> ok so know one knows
[05:18] <thoreauputic> thespiritoftal: assuming it's a tar.bz2
[05:19] <thespiritoftal> yep
[05:19] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, I am
[05:19] <XandriX> guess ill reorder
[05:19] <kemik> XandriX:  you filled out the orderform wrong, mixup at the postoffice, or they've just been busy? =)
[05:19] <RootX|Arphetic> thats impossible if im booting from hdd
[05:19] <XandriX> kemik, ill take the just bin busy lol
[05:20] <kemik> ;)
[05:20] <RootX|Arphetic> but there is a terminal function
[05:20] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, can't we do it through PM maybe?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> XandriX: if you previously ordered warty CDs you might have been pushed down the list (I haven't got my hoary CDs either)
[05:20] <thespiritoftal> is there any nice web-crawler programme for *nix that you may recommend me?
[05:20] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Partition Magic?
[05:20] <paulproteus> Sure, just delete 'em all.
[05:20] <XandriX> it says they sent them in may the 26 still nothing
[05:20] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, wat happens if u press enter?
[05:20] <RootX|Arphetic> i can try that indeed
[05:20] <XandriX> thoreauputic, i orderd hoary
[05:21] <thoreauputic> XandriX: yes, but have you previously received warty CDs?
[05:21] <RootX|Arphetic> nothing deufo
[05:21] <XandriX> thoreauputic, i never orderd warty
[05:21] <RootX|Arphetic> ill try partition magic
[05:21] <yong> anyone knows the command to register a nick in freenode?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> XandriX: OK - well that shoots my theory down in flames ;-)
[05:22] <XandriX> thoreauputic, lol
[05:22] <XandriX> illl just reorder i guess
[05:22] <deufo> anyone got xfce to hibernate?
[05:22] <RootX|Arphetic> Damn i should learn more about filesystems and stuff
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> yong,  - /msg nickserv help
[05:22] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, install gentoo, i assure u after u finish with it, u can install ubuntu no problem
[05:23] <thoreauputic> yong:  /msg nickserv register <nick> <password>  ( from memory) - but do what Dr_Willis suggests
[05:23] <RootX|Arphetic> deufo, how many cd's is gentoo?
[05:23] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, 1
[05:23] <XandriX> plus i had orderd them for an install fest lol
[05:23] <kemik> installing gentoo isnt a walk in the park ;)
[05:23] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, its not even 1 full CD
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> gentoo is one 1cd.. but Huge amount of FTP download/installs. :P
[05:23] <deufo> RootX|Arphetic, less than half a CD
[05:23] <hailvarg> installing gentoo is a headache
[05:24] <deufo> installing gentoo is fun
[05:24] <redguy> Does'n Gentoo have an installer nowadays?
[05:24] <deufo> building a rebuilding the toolkit over and over again
[05:24] <hailvarg> takes ages
[05:24] <deufo> my last gentoo installation took me 3 days XD
[05:24] <RootX|Arphetic> partition magic isnt bootable ffs
[05:24] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[05:24] <thoreauputic> if you like watching paint dry, you'll love gentoo ;)
[05:25] <kemik> ;)
[05:25] <DeMi> whehe
[05:25] <DeMi> nice expression ;)
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> the gentoo installer cd - has an irc client on it.  so you can go to #gentoo and hang.
[05:25] <deufo> thoreauputic, dun u find it amussing when text go flying up ur screen when u compile stuff
[05:25] <hailvarg> i fell asleep half way through the installation, when i woke up the pc was off
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> of course I rember one Disrto that had a Solitare, and Tetris game in its installer years ago.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> deufo: sort of palls after the first few builds ;)
[05:25] <MovieTrailerMan> I know this is probably impossible, but is there anyway to recover overwritten files?
[05:26] <yong> thanks
[05:26] <deufo> thoreauputic, roger that
[05:26] <MovieTrailerMan> I had some files for a website, and copied some updated files over them, but it turned out that some of them were older files :(
[05:26] <MovieTrailerMan> I lost a week of coding
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Ewww
[05:27] <kemik> MovieTrailerMan:  overwritten files.. well thats not much to hope for
[05:27] <ABRAXAS77> Seveas,  thank u a lot,now works
[05:28] <MovieTrailerMan> kemik, I know :(
[05:28] <MovieTrailerMan> I am trying in vain to understand WHY THE FUCK it copied old files from the directory :(
[05:28] <hailvarg> Don't do it again, future problems solved :)
[05:28] <MovieTrailerMan> the files in that directory was supposed to be the updated ones
[05:28] <paulproteus> MovieTrailerMan: I urge you to use subversion for your files.
[05:28] <paulproteus> That way, "svn revert" and "svn diff" can make you happy again.
[05:29] <deufo> MovieTrailerMan, u were using rdist?
[05:29] <paulproteus> SVN supports "file://" repositories, so you can keep the svn tree on your hard drive and not waste time going to and from the network.
[05:30] <jensb> After installing ubuntu, my lcd screen said "signal out of range" - how can I set up the refresh rate using the text terminal? and what is the default root password sudo asks me for?
[05:30] <RootX|Arphetic> Isnt windows setup able to remove linux partitions?
[05:30] <kemik> jensb:  sudo asks for Your password
[05:31] <jensb> kemik: strange, I'd swear I tried entering my own... okay.
[05:31] <kemik> RootX|Arphetic:  i wouldnt get my hopes up...
[05:31] <apokryphos> jensb: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> RootX|Arphetic,  not that im aware of.  i alwyas manually delete them with some live cd first
[05:31] <Goek> grab one of his, and don't complain
[05:31] <RootX|Arphetic> kemik, im just going to try
[05:31] <RootX|Arphetic> well ill just see
[05:31] <Goek> woops
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> RootX|Arphetic,  their old fdisk program used to be able to i think
[05:31] <Goek> wrong channel
[05:31] <jensb> apokryphos: thank you.
[05:35] <vitriol> anybody know why gnome would just freeze when starting?
[05:35] <runedude> is breezy "stable enough" yet?
[05:35] <vitriol> it never completely loads
[05:35] <vitriol> and this is in hoary
[05:35] <reiki> runedude: please see topic
[05:35] <apokryphos> runedude: no
[05:35] <runedude> aw :(
[05:35] <thoreauputic> runedude:  /topic  ;)
[05:35] <runedude> heh
[05:35] <runedude> okay :P
[05:35] <zukalk> i'm having problems upgrading mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support. apt says it can't overwrite some files which are also in firefox and firefox-gnome-support. any suggestions?
[05:36] <vitriol> i've used the generic ati driver in xorg and the one from ati
[05:36] <vitriol> but either way it freezes faithfully
[05:36] <vitriol> xfce isn't freezing
[05:36] <thoreauputic> zukalk: you got firefox from backports, right?
[05:36] <zukalk> i used to use backports
[05:36] <reiki> I now have 2 ubuntu machines. One that I can experiment on... like pulling the wings off of flies.... and the other is my main machine. That one will stay pretty clean and as much "by-the-book" as I can. Otherwise this won't be a fair trial :)
[05:36] <zukalk> let me see if firefox is ubp
[05:37] <zukalk> thoreauputic, damn, you're right. it's ubp
[05:37] <thoreauputic> zukalk: hmm :(
[05:37] <RootX|Arphetic> mmm
[05:37] <zukalk> thoreauputic, should i force version to hoary?
[05:38] <RootX|Arphetic> Dr_Willis,
[05:38] <thoreauputic> zukalk: can you purge firefox?
[05:38] <zukalk> thoreauputic, how?
[05:38] <RootX|Arphetic> You have any idea where i can find such fdisk?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> zukalk: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[05:39] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: If you can boot that system into any sort of Linux, then I can help.
[05:39] <paulproteus> Until then, I can't help.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> zukalk: they used the name firefox instead of mozilla-firefox I believe
[05:39] <RootX|Arphetic> :/
[05:39] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, is some setup good as well?
[05:39] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: What does that mean?
[05:39] <din> cfdisk > fdisk
[05:40] <zukalk> thoreauputic, still not working
[05:40] <RootX|Arphetic> cfdisk can i use that under MS DOS?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> zukalk: hrm - there's a work around for this but I can't remember it
[05:40] <din> RootX|Arphetic: no, it's a linux app
[05:40] <thoreauputic> zukalk: did it return an error when you tried to purge it?
[05:41] <zukalk> thoreauputic, same error as with the update tool
[05:41] <RootX|Arphetic> Is there any thing i can use with disc?
[05:41] <din> zukalk: what are you trying to do?
[05:41] <RootX|Arphetic> 1.44 mb
[05:41] <RootX|Arphetic> :] 
[05:41] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Yes.
[05:41] <paulproteus> tomsrtbt
[05:41] <din> remove it?
[05:42] <paulproteus> Get tomsrtbt on that floppy, boot from it, and I can help you.
[05:42] <zukalk> din, update mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[05:42] <thoreauputic> zukalk: unfortunately I don't know the way to fix this
[05:42] <din> zukalk: do you need to redownload it?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> din: he has version conflicts with backports etc
[05:42] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, is that a linux app as well?
[05:42] <zukalk> din, no
[05:42] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Just Google it. :)
[05:42] <din> ahh
[05:42] <zukalk> din, it's in the cache i think
[05:42] <thoreauputic> din: it isn't that simple
[05:43] <RootX|Arphetic> Ah tinylinux
[05:43] <RootX|Arphetic> why didnt u tell me that ;)
[05:43] <RootX|Arphetic> brb
[05:44] <thoreauputic> zukalk: this is why I don't use backports...
[05:44] <eliphas_> backports are evil
[05:44] <dwerf> ello?
[05:44] <paulproteus> dwerf: Hi.
[05:44] <dwerf> is ubuntu the same as debian?
[05:44] <zukalk> that's why i -stopped- using backports
[05:45] <din> zukalk: can you not dl the .deb file you need and just use dpkg to install it?
[05:45] <RootX|Arphetic> Get the .tar.gz file to install tomsrtbt from GNU/Linux.
[05:45] <RootX|Arphetic> Get the .dos.zip file to install from DOS or Windows-9x.
[05:45] <RootX|Arphetic> Get the .ElTorito.288.bin.bz2 one to burn a bootable CD.
[05:45] <RootX|Arphetic> I guess the most above one will do ?
[05:45] <thoreauputic> zukalk: the problem is you have residual stuff from when you used it
[05:45] <zukalk> din, i have the .deb file, it's in the apt archives
[05:45] <zukalk> thoreauputic, exactly
[05:45] <thoreauputic> din: no dpkg will complain
[05:45] <din> hmmm
[05:45] <paulproteus> dwerf: No. :)
[05:46] <dwerf> but it comes from debian?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> dwerf: based on debian
[05:47] <din> so is this a newer or older version of firefox you are trying to install?
[05:47] <dwerf> ok - what is better/easier in ubuntu compared to debian?
[05:47] <Seveas> dwerf, desktop setups
[05:47] <dwerf> plug n play?
[05:47] <Seveas> and recent versions of software
[05:47] <claudio_> alguien de Chile?
[05:47] <Seveas> oh definitely pnp too
[05:47] <Seveas> dwerf: Ubuntu and debian have different goals, a different release schedule and different, but overlapping communities. See also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship
[05:48] <reiki> dwerf: I installed on 2 systems so far, neither of them brand new, and I didn't have to mess around. They just worked
[05:48] <RootX|Arphetic> b) Be root
[05:48] <dwerf> on the ubuntu site it says that every 6 onths there is a newer version of ubuntu
[05:48] <RootX|Arphetic> that should be
[05:48] <RootX|Arphetic> supo
[05:48] <RootX|Arphetic> or so?
[05:48] <Seveas> sudo -i
[05:48] <dwerf> does this mean i have to reinstall all
[05:48] <dwerf> ?
[05:48] <RootX|Arphetic> sudo
[05:48] <RootX|Arphetic> k t
[05:48] <claudio_> sudo -i
[05:48] <thoreauputic> dwerf: no
[05:48] <Seveas> dwerf, do you want to migrate from debian to ubuntu?
[05:48] <dwerf> i might
[05:48] <thoreauputic> dwerf: you can update to the newer version
[05:48] <dwerf> every is ravin about it
[05:48] <Seveas> well, upgrades go the same as in debian
[05:49] <Seveas> no need to reinstall ever
[05:49] <Seveas> it's just a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade after changing your sources.list :)
[05:49] <RootX|Arphetic> done
[05:49] <RootX|Arphetic> installing in disc now :)
[05:49] <dwerf> i am new to linux and wish a system that is easily accessible but can take me a lot further
[05:49] <iiiears> !debian
[05:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, debian is The Rock upon which Ubuntu is founded; see http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9
[05:49] <dwerf> got really sick of windows
[05:49] <Seveas> dwerf, then Ubuntu is the one for you
[05:50] <thoreauputic> dwerf: ubuntu is a good choice
[05:50] <Seveas> it's easy to setup, but you can do anything you want
[05:50] <dwerf> seveas|thoreauput > why is it good?
[05:50] <iiiears> !debian is also Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:50] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:50] <Kyral> Anyone know what kernel module needs to be enabled for Orinco/Proxim wireless devices?
[05:50] <Concord_Dawn> because it's easy to setup./
[05:50] <RootX|Arphetic> erm
[05:50] <hopeng> one thing that makes me gotta back to windows is photoshop :( . really2 cant use gimp
[05:50] <Seveas> dwerf, I for one like the combination of frequent releases, good usabiliyy and good security support
[05:51] <RootX|Arphetic>  Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! ->  Thank You DEBra and Ian Murdock!
[05:51] <RootX|Arphetic> ;)
[05:51] <RootX|Arphetic> IANDEB sux :X
[05:51] <Seveas> iiiears, that's crap
[05:51] <dwerf> hopeng > true, i'm afraid i will not soon be able to switch to linux completely
[05:51] <iiiears> Seveas - lol - succinct and right. - change it.
[05:51] <Seveas> ubotu, no debian is The Rock upon which Ubuntu is founded; see http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9
[05:51] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[05:51] <hopeng> dwerf, indeed its sad that i cannot switch to ubuntu completely too
[05:52] <Chousuke> dwerf: or until wine becomes able to run photoshop ;)
[05:52] <dwerf> hopeng > but when 1/3 of computer users are on linux - adobe (and all others) will have to make a move
[05:52] <zukalk> !debian
[05:52] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:52] <Seveas> ubotu no, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:52] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[05:52] <Chousuke> dwerf: actually not even one third is needed.
[05:52] <apokryphos> heh, there's three people editing at the same time
[05:52] <Seveas> ubotu no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper or http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:52] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:52] <apokryphos> Seveas: why exactly is that crap
[05:52] <hopeng> photosop 7 already ran on my ubuntu using crossoffice. but lots of broken tools. like pencil / brush tools, i can't drag em..
[05:52] <Seveas> iiiears, please stop screing up ubotu entries
[05:53] <Seveas> apokryphos, irrelevant addition to that ubotu entry
[05:53] <reiki> dwerf: whether or not you can switch completely will depend upon how tightly you are married to Windows and windows applications. There is a linux program to replace almost all windows programs. You just have to look around. There WILL however be some times that I will need to boot to XP... my A/
[05:53] <dwerf> people, can i simply use my existing debian install and "morph" it to ubuntu - or was that a really silly beginner's question?
[05:53] <RootX|Arphetic> fuck
[05:53] <Seveas> ubotu, no at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[05:53] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Seveas
[05:53] <RootX|Arphetic> err
[05:53] <apokryphos> Seveas: err, why? It describes the relationship between ubuntu and debian
[05:53] <Seveas> dwerf, you can
[05:53] <RootX|Arphetic> ./hop doesnt work in X-Chat? :/
[05:53] <reiki> V system universal remote has to be programmed on the internet and the client software is windows... *shrug*
[05:53] <Chousuke> dwerf: You probably could, but it'll be a mess.
[05:53] <Seveas> apokryphos, he added a sound related entry to it
[05:53] <iiiears> lol - Seveas - unrelated? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:53] <apokryphos> heh
[05:53] <reiki> wow... did I screw that up?
[05:53] <RootX|Arphetic> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:53] <apokryphos> indeed
[05:53] <reiki> dwerf: whether or not you can switch completely will depend upon how tightly you are married to Windows and windows applications. There is a linux program to replace almost all windows programs. You just have to look around. There WILL however be some times that I will need to boot to XP... my A/
[05:53] <apokryphos> I'll fix it
[05:54] <reiki> V system universal remote has to be programmed on the internet and the client software is windows... *shrug*
[05:54] <reiki> close
[05:54] <hopeng> gaim is realasing 1.5, how to get it with apt-get ?
[05:54] <Seveas> iiiears, that is totally unrelated to the debian entry....
[05:54] <tommi^> Hi. Dumb question: what happens when upgrading to next release, the 5.10 when it's ready of course? Do I have to install my system or can I just change apt source and dist-upgrade? What happens to configuration files that I have modified, do they get overwritten or do stay in old and perhaps useless version?
[05:54] <reiki> gee... I was actually making sense until my typing error derailed the train of thought
[05:54] <nbcmayhe1> anyone here who can help me getting ubuntu running on a G5 ?
[05:54] <RootX|Arphetic> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1334
[05:54] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus,
[05:55] <dwerf> nbcmayhe1 > no, but good luck
[05:55] <RootX|Arphetic> ill try on windows system
[05:55] <iiiears> Seveas hehe - you complained about one entry and gutted three. - sheesh.
[05:55] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Okay.  Your disk is bad.
[05:55] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Wait a sec.
[05:55] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[05:55] <thoreauputic> tommi^: apt /dpkg will prompt you if there are decisions to make about configuration
[05:55] <iiiears> !ndis
[05:56] <ubotu> hmm... ndis is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper, or http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:56] <Seveas> iiiears, these contained misplaced commas, due to the 'ubotu, foo is also' command
[05:56] <paulproteus> Are you getting this shell prompt on the machine whose hard drive you want to wipe?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> tommi^: and yes, you can dist-upgrade
[05:56] <RootX|Arphetic> ill try my linux boot disk then
[05:56] <iiiears> Seveas - Ah - good to know. Thanks
[05:56] <apokryphos> ubotu: no ndis is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper or http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:56] <Seveas> iiiears, in such cases (where these commas srew up urls) better, use 'ubotu no foo is' to correct/update an entry
[05:56] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[05:56] <tommi^> thoreauputic, so it'll be a smooth shift? :)
[05:57] <thoreauputic> tommi^: should be :) I'm not a prophet you know ;-)
[05:58] <zukalk> Breezy's comming out in october, right?
[05:58] <iiiears> Seveas - won't that truncate the original and require entering the entire string again?
[05:58] <apokryphos> zukalk: correct
[05:58] <zukalk> hmm.. time flies
[05:58] <Seveas> iiiears, you shoul indeed include the original reply
[05:59] <tommi^> thoreauputic, hah.. yet, I'm bit 'afraid' of a configuration hell and newer versions not working like they should. But I guess we'll see that later.
[05:59] <iiiears> Sounds good. - ubotu's brain/database should be solid. - rebuilding him later will be difficult/painful.
[05:59] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, nevermind i got a working disc now
[05:59] <thoreauputic> tommi^: well, many people dist-upgraded from warty to hoary without issues
[05:59] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Okay.
[05:59] <paulproteus> Tell me when you boot that on the target system.
[06:00] <XandriX> o thats grand form what the post office says thy probably got lost how in gods name do you lose 50 cds
[06:00] <RootX|Arphetic> About to dd floppy image
[06:00] <paulproteus> "target" meaning "one with the hard drives you want to blank"
[06:00] <thoreauputic> XandriX: theft most probably
[06:00] <XandriX> seriously how can you ose 50 cd's magicaly and now well to late for the install fest :(
[06:00] <Kyral> I wish someone would make a script that detected what kernel config you needed and then made a kernel for that...
[06:01] <budluva> Kyral, thats the fun of compiling your own kernel :P
[06:01] <XandriX> thoreauputic, it pisses me off so ok i reoerderd them but i probably wont recievent them either
[06:01] <Kyral> But its a PAIN
[06:01] <Kyral> I couldn't find the driver for my Orinco Wireless Card
[06:01] <Kyral> it works in 2.6.10 that Hoary installed, but not in the 2.6.12 that Breezy installed
[06:02] <budluva> so having a script automate your kernel compiling is going to fix that?
[06:02] <RootX|Arphetic> 3444+0 records in
[06:02] <RootX|Arphetic> 3444+0 records out
[06:02] <RootX|Arphetic> 1763328 bytes transferred in 200.285313 seconds (8804 bytes/sec)
[06:02] <RootX|Arphetic> About to verify floppy image
[06:02] <Kyral> no, but I just wish I knew the damn option :P
[06:02] <thoreauputic> XandriX: yeah, it's annoying: but we can't really complain about free CDs I guess
[06:02] <XandriX> thoreauputic, id pay them to express ship em
[06:02] <Grid_block> hey everyone :D
[06:02] <XandriX> with a tracking number
[06:03] <Kyral> The way I see it, I want to be able to compile a crapload of modules, then have a program detect which ones to load at boot
[06:03] <thoreauputic> XandriX: this has been discussed on the mailing list quite a bit
[06:03] <paulproteus> thoreauputic: Interesting. URL?
[06:03] <Kyral> oh wait....isn't that hotplug or HAL?
[06:03] <XandriX> thoreauputic, i can imagine
[06:03] <Chousuke> ok. wtf.
[06:03] <tommi^> thoreauputic, that's good to know. I only wish that instead or better yet, as an addition to good ubuntuforums there'd be real documentation instead a collection of hacks. The hacks usually do work they aren't the right way to the stuff. I shouldn't be doing ln -commands to /usr/lib and so on. And yes, I will do some my self on ubuntu this fall if possible.
[06:03] <RootX|Arphetic> ok paulproteus booting now...
[06:03] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with installing Mixxx?
[06:03] <Kyral> but I need lunch :D
[06:03] <Chousuke> I can't connect to my server on the LAN
[06:03] <Chousuke> it says "host is down"
[06:03] <thoreauputic> paulproteus: heh I'd have to search the archive like you :)
[06:03] <XandriX> thoreauputic, if its theft id be way pissed
[06:03] <RootX|Arphetic> err
[06:04] <RootX|Arphetic> i dont get it lol ??
[06:04] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Okay.  Once you're in the root shell provided by tomsrtbt, tell me.
[06:04] <Chousuke> the weird thing is, that machine is between me and internet.
[06:04] <Grid_block> iam makeing an antenna for my Wifi connection soon :D
[06:04] <Chousuke> And here I am still ircing :P
[06:04] <RootX|Arphetic> well its loading bz2bzImage or so?? is that good?
[06:04] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Yes.
[06:04] <paulproteus> Wait more.
[06:05] <thoreauputic> tommi^: I'm not sure why you are saying this to me... I'm a user not an Ubuntu dev or Canonical employee
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> Press <return> to see video modes available, <Spacve to continue or wait 30 secs
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> return or space?
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> to late
[06:05] <tommi^> thoreauputic, just talking out loud :)
[06:05] <paulproteus> Whatever, return.
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> lol
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> oh no
[06:05] <tommi^> thoreauputic, but thanks for your comments on upgrading
[06:05] <thoreauputic> tommi^:  OK :)
[06:05] <terminal|giga> w00t
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> oh wouw
[06:05] <RootX|Arphetic> it booted
[06:05] <thoreauputic> tommi^: you're welcome
[06:06] <terminal|giga> ubuntu documentation is pretty good
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> wtf
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> aaaiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooboiiiiiiiii ???
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> wtf
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> now some 00000000000boi
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> or so
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[06:06] <Grid_block> i got a program named Xmms thats hanged up.. how do i force it to quit??
[06:06] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: It's just tom having some fun. :)
[06:06] <RootX|Arphetic> tty1 tomsrtbt login:
[06:07] <paulproteus> login as root
[06:07] <RootX|Arphetic> yes
[06:07] <RootX|Arphetic>    ...Login as root. Remove the floppy.   Altf1-AltF4 for consoles.
[06:07] <RootX|Arphetic> tty1 tomsrtbt login:
[06:07] <RootX|Arphetic> this is what i see
[06:07] <concept10> Ive installed the linux-image 2.11.1 -686 but it doesnt show up on grub, whats going on, do I have to add this?
[06:08] <RootX|Arphetic> and a whole list of functions ;)
[06:08] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Log in as root!
[06:08] <RootX|Arphetic> yes...
[06:08] <RootX|Arphetic> Today is prickle prickle
[06:08] <Seveas> concept10, the .11 packages in hoary are broken and not meant to be used
[06:08] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[06:08] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Is the drive you want erased /dev/hda ?
[06:09] <RootX|Arphetic> yes
[06:09] <RootX|Arphetic> i dont have any other so ;)
[06:09] <paulproteus> Okay, well you can just run fdisk.
[06:09] <paulproteus> fdisk /dev/hda
[06:09] <paulproteus> And there's an option for making a new partition table.
[06:09] <tommi^> terminal|giga, I somewhat disagree. At least finding it is hard.Support -> documentation leads to a page with documentation search form. If I'm not sure what I'm looking for or don't know it's name, I want browse documentation. On the right is documentation links leading to tldp, debian doc and to the unofficial e starter guide. More links on the right: Glossary, security notices and faqs. Where's the documentation?
[06:09] <paulproteus> n or something/
[06:09] <paulproteus> That's the precise way.
[06:09] <ryanomalley_> how do you execute .x86 files?
[06:10] <ryanomalley_> I am trying to update pbweb manually and I have a pbweb.x86
[06:10] <RootX|Arphetic> errr
[06:10] <ryanomalley_> how do I execute that file
[06:10] <RootX|Arphetic> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4864.
[06:10] <concept10> Seveas, what is the latest kernel packaged for hoary
[06:10] <RootX|Arphetic> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[06:10] <hopeng> i saw nice interface for editing boot loader (OS Selector) in the next release of ubuntu. is it possible to use it in hoary ? gimme apt-get name of that thing
[06:10] <RootX|Arphetic> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[06:10] <Seveas> concept10, 2.6.10-5
[06:10] <ryanomalley_> so does anyone know how to execute pbweb.x86
[06:10] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: *nix doesn't care about file extensions
[06:11] <RootX|Arphetic> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[06:11] <juk> hi
[06:11] <RootX|Arphetic> 2) booting and partitioning softawer from other OSs
[06:11] <juk> is anyone able to help me with rsync?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: are you sure it is an executable file?
[06:11] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Whatever.
[06:11] <ryanomalley_> well hold on
[06:11] <RootX|Arphetic>     (e.g., DOS FDISK, )S/2 FDISK)
[06:11] <ryanomalley_> thoreauputic: http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=updatepb.php
[06:12] <RootX|Arphetic> n = add a new partition
[06:12] <juk> is anyone able to help me with rsync between ubuntu and windows?
[06:12] <RootX|Arphetic> No free sectors available
[06:12] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: ru this command :  file pbweb.x86
[06:12] <thoreauputic> *run
[06:12] <catfox> hi all. can anyone recommend some docs for writing applets in python? i found some, but they're using bonobo, which i thought was depreciated
[06:12] <juk> is anyone able to help me with rsync between ubuntu and windows?
[06:12] <RootX|Arphetic> I just deleted all or so?
[06:12] <catfox> something beginner friendly, since i've never done gui programming before
[06:13] <ryanomalley_> ryanomalley@baboonsauce:~/.etwolf/pb$ file pbweb.x86
[06:13] <ryanomalley_> pbweb.x86: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[06:13] <RootX|Arphetic> extended or primary ?
[06:13] <RootX|Arphetic> wtf
[06:13] <juk> can anyone see what im writing?
[06:13] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, can i msg you?
[06:13] <Chousuke> juk: no :P
[06:13] <juk> :(
[06:14] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: what's the output of the command I gave you?
[06:14] <Chousuke> Hm, that joke is too old :P
[06:14] <ryanomalley_> ryanomalley@baboonsauce:~/.etwolf/pb$ file pbweb.x86
[06:14] <ryanomalley_> what do you mean output?
[06:14] <juk> chousuke: do you know much about rsync?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: sorry missed it
[06:14] <ryanomalley_> oh no prob :D
[06:14] <Chousuke> juk: no
[06:14] <juk> does anyone here??
[06:14] <Chousuke> but maybe someone else would
[06:14] <Chousuke> ask
[06:15] <juk> is anyone able to help me with rsync between ubuntu and windows?
[06:15] <iiiears> CNN, ABC and NY Times computers attacked by an exploit because they were left unpatched
[06:15] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: OK it's an executable so  type  ./pbweb.x86
[06:15] <iiiears> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php
[06:15] <{Seb}> juk: try samba or ifolder
[06:15] <{Seb}> juk: www.ifolder.com
[06:15] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: note the dot/slash
[06:15] <juk> seb: i already have the whole thing set up
[06:15] <juk> seb: its just it keeps prompting for a password with is no good for automation
[06:16] <ryanomalley_> ryanomalley@baboonsauce:~/.etwolf/pb$ su /.pbweb.x86
[06:16] <ryanomalley_> Unknown id: /.pbweb.x86
[06:16] <ryanomalley_> oops
[06:16] <juk> seb: it was working fine before i reformatted the windows pc...
[06:16] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: extra space you inserted
[06:16] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: no spaces
[06:16] <Seveas> forget foobar
[06:16] <h08817> hello all i need some help with partitioning
[06:16] <juk> can no one help?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> and dot before  slash
[06:16] <h08817> hoary edition 5.04
[06:17] <RootX|Arphetic> TY paulproteus
[06:17] <ryanomalley_> ryanomalley@baboonsauce:~/.etwolf/pb$ su ./pbweb.x86
[06:17] <ryanomalley_> Unknown id: ./pbweb.x86
[06:17] <paulproteus> Glad to have helped, RootX|Arphetic.
[06:17] <RootX|Arphetic> :)
[06:17] <h08817> ?
[06:17] <juk> how can i stop rsync on the ubuntu machine from asking for a password?
[06:17] <juk> or how can i make the windows machine automatically pass it?
[06:17] <h08817> partition help please
[06:17] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: the file is in that directory right?
[06:18] <ryanomalley_> yup
[06:18] <zerboxx> How can I see how much space each of my partitions is taking up (and how much they have in total)?
[06:18] <blastradius> what kind of partition helP
[06:18] <paulproteus> h08817: You'll have to say what you mean.
[06:18] <ryanomalley_> for sure
[06:18] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_:  ls -l pbweb.x86
[06:18] <h08817> i have a 40GB blank hd and a 1.18GB hd with 98
[06:18] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: what does that say?
[06:18] <h08817> blastradius: well i want to have linux on one hd and 98 on the other dual boot
[06:19] <ryanomalley_> ryanomalley@baboonsauce:~/.etwolf/pb$ ls -l pbweb.x86
[06:19] <ryanomalley_> -rw-r--r--  1 ryanomalley ryanomalley 152836 2005-08-07 10:14 pbweb.x86
[06:19] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: please type my nick or I'll miss yor posts
[06:19] <ryanomalley_> okay sorry
[06:19] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: OK do this
[06:19] <h08817> paulproteus: dual boot 98 and linux
[06:19] <h08817> paulproteus: 2 different hds
[06:19] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_:  chmod +x  pbweb.x86
[06:19] <paulproteus> h08817: Just install Windows, then Ubuntu, and Ubuntu will let you resize the Windows partition on install.
[06:19] <Chousuke> h08817: install win98 first, then Linux
[06:20] <ryanomalley_> thoreauputic: okay
[06:20] <zerboxx> What is the terminal command to see how much space each of my partitions are taking up (and how much they have in total)?
[06:20] <h08817> windows is already installed on hdb
[06:20] <RootX|Arphetic> !update
[06:20] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: then do  ./pbweb.x86   again
[06:20] <ubotu> RootX|Arphetic: I don't know
[06:20] <duckie> a quick question guy... how would I setup a USB sound card on my OS, at the moment it sees my built in SCard, it also sees the SouundBlaster, but when I select the Blaster, I cannot play back audio.. any thoughts guys..
[06:20] <h08817> and i want linux on hda
[06:20] <RootX|Arphetic> err?
[06:20] <Chousuke> zerboxx: df -h
[06:20] <RootX|Arphetic> what was that !update thing again?
[06:20] <ryanomalley_> woo!!!!
[06:20] <h08817> which one do i make the bootable flag?
[06:20] <ryanomalley_> thoreauputic: its working
[06:20] <RootX|Arphetic> !upgrade
[06:20] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, totally, "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:20] <Chousuke> h08817: grub doesn't care :p
[06:20] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: I'm *soooo* surprised ;-)
[06:20] <zerboxx> Chousuke: Perfect, thanks!
[06:20] <juk> so i guess no one is able to help
[06:21] <h08817> well i tried it before and i couldn't get linux to read my 98
[06:21] <RootX|Arphetic> ty ubotu
[06:21] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: cool bananas '-)
[06:21] <h08817> grub saw it but wouldn't boot to it
[06:21] <ryanomalley_> =)
[06:21] <ryanomalley_> thanks a lot
[06:21] <h08817> it just gave me a prompt
[06:21] <thoreauputic> ryanomalley_: you're welcome
[06:21] <h08817> and i have no clue what to type at a prompt
[06:21] <Chousuke> h08817: It should give you a menu :/
[06:21] <h08817> it did
[06:22] <h08817> then i chose 98
[06:22] <h08817> and it gave me a grub prompt
[06:22] <h08817> like i had to tell it what hd to read
[06:22] <duckie> a quick question guy... how would I setup a USB sound card on my OS, at the moment it sees my built in SCard, it also sees the SouundBlaster, but when I select the Blaster, I cannot play back audio.. any thoughts guys..
[06:23] <echylo_> how do you start mplayer from commandline with a srt subtitle file? and delay?
[06:23] <h08817> Chousuke: so  how do i get into 98
[06:23] <h08817> once linux is installed on the master since my 98 is the slave
[06:23] <Chousuke> h08817: Dunno. I suppose GRUB has given it a name.
[06:23] <Chousuke> type "help"
[06:23] <h08817> how do i figure out what it is
[06:24] <Chousuke> at the boot.
[06:24] <Chousuke> and then try something like "list"
[06:24] <h08817> yeah it gives a crap load of commands
[06:24] <bgerson> Is there a protocol for asking questions in this channel?
[06:24] <Chousuke> and boot <name>
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> thereauputic: Resolving www.evenbalance.com
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Resolved to 69.44.156.109
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Checking for PB Client updates
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Game: et
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Attempting to download pbsec.htm (please wait)
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Received File pbsec.htm (1419 bytes)
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Attempting to download htm/la001360.htm (please wait)
[06:24] <Concord_Dawn> h08817, you have two seperate harddrives, yes?
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Received File la001360.htm (51699 bytes)
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> ERROR: Htm-to-Binary Conversion Failed ... htm/la001360.htm Removed
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Attempting to download htm/lc001202.htm (please wait)
[06:24] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: yes
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> Received File lc001202.htm (656316 bytes)
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> ERROR: Htm-to-Binary Conversion Failed ... htm/lc001202.htm Removed
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> sorry for that
[06:24] <Concord_Dawn> omg
[06:24] <Chousuke> ryanomalley_: next timne, use pastebin
[06:24] <Concord_Dawn> PASTEBIN
[06:24] <ryanomalley_> haha yeah sorry
[06:25] <Concord_Dawn> h08817, open a terminal, do fdisk -l, and paste the output in the pastebin.
[06:25] <SimonVallore> Hello
[06:25] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: what is that going to do?
[06:25] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: also i removed linux b/c of that problem so i guess i'll reinstall
[06:25] <Concord_Dawn> tell me what's on your disk.
[06:25] <Concord_Dawn> oh, you're not on Linux?
[06:25] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: no not atm
[06:26] <Concord_Dawn> ah.
[06:26] <Concord_Dawn> then reinstall it, then do it.
[06:26] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: well once that is done which will be in an hour then what can i do?
[06:26] <RootX|Arphetic> Mmmm
[06:26] <Seveas> !is
[06:26] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:26] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: is there anything i should know specifically about partitioning?
[06:26] <Seveas> !are ok
[06:26] <ubotu> Seveas: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:26] <Concord_Dawn> boot into Linux, open XChat, and come back.
[06:26] <Concord_Dawn> yes, it's risky.
[06:26] <RootX|Arphetic> Fluxbox = compatible with ubuntu ?? (or ubuntu is compatible with fluxbox) ??
[06:26] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: can't use xchat
[06:26] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: i won't put that computer online
[06:27] <h08817> Concord_Dawn: its just gonna be an offline comp
[06:27] <Concord_Dawn> you got another computer that you can use to talk to us then?
[06:27] <bgerson> I'm completely new to Linux.  Tried using ubuntu Live CD on a laptop.  Will not recognize USB drive.  Can't see anything to modify.
[06:27] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i un this problemdo
[06:27] <DekaPink> What do I have to have to play m4a files? :3
[06:27] <Seveas> !m4a
[06:27] <Concord_Dawn> bgerson, LiveCD can't do very much, it's much better to install Ubuntu completely.
[06:27] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:27] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, you got experience with FDisk + windows installations as well?? :X
[06:28] <Seveas> !restricted
[06:28] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:28] <Seveas> ^-- DekaPink
[06:28] <RootX|Arphetic> !liveCD
[06:28] <ubotu> RootX|Arphetic: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:28] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Nope.
[06:28] <RootX|Arphetic> oh ok
[06:28] <Goek> hey. i've downloaded a dvd in vob, ifo, and bup files - but how do i burn it to a dvd+rom?
[06:28] <Concord_Dawn> ~dvd
[06:28] <DekaPink> Eh? :3
[06:28] <Concord_Dawn> !dvd
[06:28] <ubotu> dvd is probably There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[06:28] <bgerson> TU, Concord_Dawn but the installation requires that I boot with the CD version as the drive will be wiped when the installer on the USB drive executes.
[06:28] <RootX|Arphetic> lets install enemy territory 4 linux
[06:29] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem
[06:29] <Concord_Dawn> bgerson, I don't understand.....
[06:29] <Sonderblade> is there a way via synaptic to install zope without installing python 2.2 or 2.3?
[06:29] <Concord_Dawn> no Sonderblade
[06:29] <Concord_Dawn> if it's a dependancy, you need to install it.
[06:29] <paulproteus> Sonderblade: Try looking zope2.7 or zope3 other such packages with version numbers stuck to the end.
[06:29] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem
[06:29] <paulproteus> Sonderblade: It could be that "zope" is an old version.
[06:29] <bgerson> Instructions are to boot with Live CD.  When the Desktop appears, plug in the USB drive and run the installer.  It will format the drive and install.
[06:29] <Goek> erhm, did any1 help me?
[06:30] <h08817> also i remember b4 linux wouldn't recognize my mouse
[06:30] <Concord_Dawn> bgerson, umm.........might I ask why you can't just use the Ubuntu Install CD?
[06:30] <Goek> cos i kinda didn't get anything
[06:30] <h08817> i have a microsoft serial mouse
[06:30] <Sonderblade> paulproteus, the latest zope seem to be the zope2.7 deb and it requires python 2.3 :/
[06:30] <bgerson> I'm trying to do this on a laptop but it seems as if this is going to be better served on a desktop.
[06:30] <Goek> can i just burn the files using k3b?
[06:30] <h08817> with the ball
[06:30] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem
[06:30] <bgerson> Do you mean using the Install CD to install on the internal hard drive?
[06:30] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem
[06:31] <Goek> please help me out
[06:31] <h08817> Goek: what is the problem explain it more and u might get help
[06:31] <Concord_Dawn> yes bgerson
[06:32] <bgerson> Ah, but the installer from the USB drive needs to format the hard drive.  I imagine that's going to mess up the ubuntu installation.  ;-)
[06:32] <jupiterste> If I have a list of names (say in a text file) and I want to create a folder for each name, is there an easy way to do it in linux?
[06:32] <jupiterste> rather than mkdir manually, having to retype the names?
[06:32] <RootX|Arphetic> !lifecd
[06:32] <ubotu> RootX|Arphetic: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:32] <Concord_Dawn> yes jupiterste
[06:32] <RootX|Arphetic> !livecd
[06:32] <ubotu> RootX|Arphetic: Are you on ritalin?
[06:33] <RootX|Arphetic> !livecd
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> make a shell script that does mkdir <name>
[06:33] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[06:33] <Concord_Dawn> and then just cycle down the list.
[06:33] <RootX|Arphetic> !shipit
[06:33] <ubotu> RootX|Arphetic: I give up, what is it?
[06:33] <RootX|Arphetic> :/
[06:33] <apokryphos> jupiterste: easiest way: use xargs
[06:33] <Goek> well i've downloaded the files, and i've got em all iin a folder, and there calld .ifo and .vob and such things - do i just burn them right over like a data-dvd with k3b?
[06:33] <jupiterste> xargs?
[06:33] <michele> jupiterste, you might use a combination of cat, xargs and mkdir and maybe some cut if there's something else but the names in the file
[06:34] <Goek> that has got to be enough information
[06:35] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem uninstall them
[06:35] <h08817> Goek: what do u want to burn them for?
[06:35] <thenuke> is there chipset-drivers in linux what users can install..
[06:36] <Goek> i wanna play them in my dvd player
[06:36] <SimonVallore> yeah there is i had some guy tell me to install the wrong ones
[06:36] <h08817> Goek: can u run those files?
[06:36] <h08817> do they work?
[06:37] <rick_> testing...
[06:37] <h08817> Goek: is it a movie u downloaded?
[06:37] <nightswim> failed!
[06:37] <Goek> yeah
[06:37] <apokryphos> jupiterste: yes, xargs. Did you check the man page?
[06:37] <Goek> it's a series
[06:37] <apokryphos> jupiterste: for example, what you wanna do is cat<file>.txt | xargs mkdir
[06:37] <h08817> if so, u need all the files u downloaded and put on a dvd
[06:38] <h08817> one movie per cd is recommended
[06:38] <Goek> i haven't had no problems i just wanna know how to do it?
[06:38] <h08817> *dvd
[06:38] <apokryphos> jupiterste: cat <file>.txt | xargs mkdir
[06:38] <h08817> open the burner software and add the files
[06:38] <Goek> justr like that?
[06:38] <h08817> why does it have to be so hard?
[06:38] <h08817> as long as u have a dvd and a dvd burner
[06:38] <thespiritoftal> anyone knows of any web crawler for linux?=
[06:39] <stu> hi, you know in ubuntu when you click places - connect to server and connect to a samba share, it adds the shortcut to the desktop
[06:39] <rick_> X 1024?
[06:39] <stu> when I navigate to the desktop from a file browser, I cant see that link
[06:39] <stu> does it mount it into the file system somewhere?
[06:39] <rick_> Can someone help me witch changing my resolution to 1280X1024?
[06:39] <apokryphos> !resolution
[06:39] <rick_> im a noob...
[06:39] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:40] <njq6898> 
[06:40] <rick_> hm, oke, i'll check it.
[06:40] <SimonVallore>  
[06:40] <stu> anyone?
[06:40] <SimonVallore>  
[06:40] <stu> !smbfs
[06:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, stu
[06:40] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem uninstall them
[06:40] <stu> !samba
[06:40] <ubotu> I heard samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:41] <jupiterste> rick: xorg.conf
[06:41] <apokryphos> no samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: no samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:41] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[06:43] <michele> stu, no, it's being accessed via gnome-vfs
[06:43] <michele> stu, it's a virtual file system
[06:43] <SimonVallore> SOmeone had me install the wrong drivers for my via tech chipset they had me put ati on how do i undo this problem uninstall them
[06:43] <bgerson> Concord_Dawn, no way to resolve this, huh?
[06:44] <h08817> ok someone listen up simonvallore here has been asking the same question for 20min
[06:44] <paxmaster> hello there,  How would I control my computer to listen to one dns
[06:45] <paxmaster> we have 3 or four dns server but i want to listen to the internel dns server
[06:45] <michele> paxmaster, system -> administration -> networking
[06:46] <paxmaster> yeah i did that but when i reboot my computer it changes
[06:47] <kemik> paxmaster:  are you using dhcp ?
[06:47] <stu> I get this when trying to mount a windows share, I am mounting as smbfs mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //server/data,
[06:47] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, it didnt work
[06:47] <paxmaster> yeah think  so
[06:48] <paxmaster> we have a window server and apple server
[06:48] <paxmaster> and i want to use the apple dns server not the window
[06:48] <bretzel> Hi all ( I am back to Ubuntu :-) I have to tell somethings
[06:49] <stu> and this in dmesg: smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[06:49] <dv> hi
[06:49] <RootX|Arphetic> erm
[06:49] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Hmm?
[06:49] <dv__> I just installed ubuntu
[06:49] <RootX|Arphetic> isnt it possible to COMPLETElY errase the hdd?
[06:49] <dv__> works great
[06:49] <Goodspeed> how do i set an ip address for each of the ocmputers on my network?
[06:49] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Yes, it is.
[06:49] <Goodspeed> so it doesnt change?
[06:49] <paulproteus> Go back to tomsrtbt, and do:
[06:49] <dv__> but I have a small problem with smb shares
[06:49] <Goodspeed> i have a linsys wireless router
[06:49] <paulproteus> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[06:49] <paulproteus> And wait a while.
[06:49] <RootX|Arphetic> ok
[06:49] <paulproteus> When it finishes, the hard drive will be blanked.
[06:49] <dv__> I have a samba server running, and want to mount it. works great with the gnome network browser
[06:50] <michele> that'd crash before it's finished
[06:50] <RootX|Arphetic> and then just use fdisk from windows stuff?
[06:50] <stu> make sure hda is what u want to crash tho
[06:50] <dv__> but the browser doesnt really mount it, it just browses it.
[06:50] <stu> dv__, , Im having the same issue
[06:50] <paxmaster> i think it has to do some think with the  /etc/network/interfaces
[06:50] <dv__> but, writing an entry in the fstab didn't work, because ubuntu cannot mount it
[06:50] <h08817> where is package manager listed under?
[06:50] <stu> dv__,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:50] <bretzel> I have runned Fedora Core 4; SuSE 9.3 PRO. - Those distros I know are the best "commercial ( not fc4 tho) " distro and finaly Debian/Ubuntu Rules the world -- at lest MY world :-)
[06:50] <dv__> it doesn't support the smbfs
[06:50] <RootX|Arphetic> Fedora is shit
[06:50] <stu> dv__,  are you getting bad superblock ?
[06:50] <h08817> system-->preferences synaptic package manager?
[06:50] <michele> RootX|Arphetic, it isn't
[06:50] <RootX|Arphetic> imho though ;)
[06:51] <RootX|Arphetic> well
[06:51] <dv__> yeah, and dmesg says "smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported"
[06:51] <stu> why do I always get ignored in this channel
[06:51] <stu> yeah same error here
[06:51] <stu> active directory share?
[06:51] <dv__> no
[06:51] <felly> system crashes with nvidia driver when "RENDERACCEL" set to "true." anyone familiar with this bug?
[06:51] <dv__> ordinary samba one
[06:51] <iiiears> FEDORA CORE 4 cds and it still doesn't do what you need without a bunch of downloads. - lol
[06:51] <iiska> ls
[06:51] <dv__> felly, its a driver issue
[06:51] <dv__> renderaccel is unstable
[06:51] <dv__> in fact, the driver docs say just that :)
[06:51] <h08817> yo
[06:52] <felly> yah i've looked it up in forums too
[06:52] <michele> iiiears, you can install fedora with just the first CD
[06:52] <RootX|Arphetic> erm
[06:52] <felly> its unstable for just nvidia drivers, or all drivers?
[06:52] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, wil that erase the tables and stuff as well?
[06:52] <h08817> system-->preferences-->synaptic package manager is that where it is?
[06:52] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Absolutely everything.
[06:52] <h08817> the manager
[06:52] <iiiears> ubuntu is the same - lol wide grin
[06:52] <RootX|Arphetic> ok ty
[06:53] <collins> Hi! Am a new user to Linux. Anybody out there to assist me in printing to a printer connected to a Windows client?
[06:53] <kemik> paxmaster:  well, the dhcp server usually supply which DNS to use.. so it's a server-configuration thing
[06:53] <iiiears> paxmaster - firestarter a gui and Bastille might be worth a quick look.
[06:53] <RootX|Arphetic> ill be back later then... testing it now downstairs while eating :)
[06:53] <RootX|Arphetic> thats like laptops you know... they 0wn X:
[06:53] <dv__> felly, nvidia for sure
[06:53] <kemik> paxmaster:  or you could edit /etc/resolv.conf ,but it could be that the dhcp will overwrite it upon a new lease
[06:54] <dv__> as for other drivers, well, renderaccel is nvidia-specific
[06:54] <paxmaster> what about the  /etc/network/interfaces
[06:54] <felly> thats what i thought, thanks dv__, this is frustrating given the closed-source nature of nvidia's drivers...
[06:54] <felly> who knows when they'll fix it
[06:54] <kemik> dv__:  apt-get install smbfs <- and you'll be able to mount samba shares
[06:55] <bretzel> flashplugin-nonfree not available ? ( I updated sources.list - universe, multiverse ) And that pkg is not found
[06:57] <michele> RootX|Arphetic, you shouldn't eat laptops
[06:58] <kemik> paxmaster:  /etc/network/interfaces doenst contain info about DNS servers
[06:58] <truz24> Do you have to change the mode with a b/g wireless card?
[06:59] <gomer> maplyer question anyone?
[06:59] <kemik> paxmaster:  not sure if it's a good "hack" but add the DNS server in your /etc/resolv.conf and then write-protect that file
[06:59] <bretzel> Sorry, my mistake.... did not finished updating sources.list repos...
[06:59] <Gadi> how do I change the system wide umask?  I tried changing it in /etc/profile and /etc/login.defs and programs still create files with the default 0022
[06:59] <hybrid_goth> gomer: just ask ;-)
[06:59] <gomer> no sound though sound works ok from the OS ...what to do?
[06:59] <h08817> how do u remove files with apt-get
[06:59] <kemik> Gadi:  can do it as an option to the mount command.. (so you can set it in your fstab file)
[06:59] <apokryphos> h08817: did you even check the man page?
[06:59] <h08817> apt-get remove filename?
[06:59] <paulproteus> h08817: You should be using Synaptic, the nice GUI for this.
[07:00] <iiiears> apt-get -purge?
[07:00] <eliphas_> gomer see if another source doesn't use the sound
[07:00] <h08817> i know but what if it isn't in the list?
[07:00] <apokryphos> h08817: packagename, yes; you may like to add the --purge option
[07:00] <h08817> or are all programs in the list
[07:00] <apokryphos> h08817: not in the list?
[07:00] <h08817> just wondering
[07:00] <eliphas_> like me I disable every sound used by gnome
[07:00] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, dd thingie doesnt give output and doesnt make my hdd rumble
[07:00] <RootX|Arphetic> is that ok?
[07:00] <kemik> the programs that you've installed through the repositories and .deb packages should be listed, yes
[07:01] <RootX|Arphetic> or is it just slow?
[07:01] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: It's just slow.
[07:01] <anna> bonjour a tous
[07:01] <paulproteus> It has to wipe the whole drive
[07:01] <paulproteus> Bonjour, anna.
[07:01] <RootX|Arphetic> ok
[07:01] <RootX|Arphetic> ty
[07:01] <gomer> i tried different sources but did not restart . I was hoping to use ESD..
[07:01] <bretzel> Wow! even sun-java ( jre and jsdk 1.5 are there ! )
[07:01] <gleng> Is anyone else having issues playing DVDs with mplayer?
[07:01] <anna> paul tu m'aide
[07:01] <paulproteus> Probablement tu prefererais aller a #ubuntu-fr , anna
[07:01] <iiiears> RootX - when it quits it will tell how many records were written
[07:01] <Gadi> kemik: does that work on ext3 fs, as well?  and do you know if some other file will overwrite it?
[07:01] <eliphas_> yeah
[07:01] <gomer> later
[07:01] <paulproteus> anna: Helas, je suis occupe ce moment.  Mais essayez a #ubunt-fr
[07:01] <paulproteus> #ubuntu-fr, je veux dire
[07:01] <anna> heu oui je me suis tromp merci je m'en vais
[07:01] <kemik> Gadi:  you mean overwrite your /etc/fstab? ?
[07:02] <paulproteus> anna: pas de probleme :)
[07:02] <h08817> apokryphos: what does purge do?
[07:02] <Gadi> no, change umask of ext3 filesystem
[07:02] <anna> merci paul salut
[07:02] <kemik> Gadi:  that should be doable... consult the man.page for mount
[07:02] <Gadi> and i meant overrid
[07:02] <kemik> Gadi:  or just try =)
[07:02] <Gadi> sorry:  s/overwrite/override/
[07:03] <iiiears> !apt
[07:03] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:03] <Gadi> kemik: I'm on a terminal server, and I'd rather not be playing too much
[07:03] <Gadi> ;)
[07:04] <kemik> Gadi:  ok, well.. i've not tried it myself, but you should be able to just use the -o umask= option to mount... but you'll have to try to see if it works :)
[07:04] <Gadi> kemik: man mount seems to suggest no support for umask= for ext2/3
[07:05] <Gadi> :(
[07:05] <paxmaster> i will try that
[07:06] <Gadi> in the past, I had been able to change /etc/bashrc and have it take effect globally
[07:06] <Gadi> unfortunately, Ubuntu seems to have umask settings all over the place
[07:06] <iiiears> ubotu forget apt
[07:06] <ubotu> i forgot apt, iiiears
[07:06] <iiiears> ubotu apt is  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[07:06] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[07:07] <gimbal> is  ubuntu's reportbug, like, integrated with Malone?
[07:07] <apokryphos> gimbal: MOTU's uses Malone
[07:07] <kemik> Gadi:  only supported for FAT.. weird
[07:08] <gimbal> apokryphos: ah; I was thinking it might be comparable with e.g. http://bugs.qa.debian.org/
[07:08] <kemik> iiiears:  is it really wise to refer to debian.org ?
[07:08] <kemik> iiiears:  could perhaps give ppl ideas about adding Debian repositories
[07:08] <gimbal> heh, not to sound like a snot, but that reads like: is it wise for the kid to refer to his parent?
[07:09] <paulproteus> gimbal: :)
[07:10] <iiiears> kemik - feel free to add or change remove ubotu. - communitty resource.
[07:10] <apokryphos> kemik: where there's documentation, indeed it generally is wise. Ubuntu and Debian are really very similar
[07:11] <robin_> _please_ could someone point me how to go in suspend-to-ram ?
[07:11] <dv__> hmm
[07:11] <dv__> I want to use gqview, but its not present
[07:11] <robin_> with command line, not through GNOME
[07:11] <dv__> and also not included in the ubuntu packages
[07:11] <jupiterste> after I have all my folders named, is it easy to rename a file inside the folder to the folder name?
[07:11] <dv__> can I just do dpkg -i to install the .deb I downloaded?
[07:11] <dv__> or is another way recommended with ubuntu?
[07:11] <kemik> dv__:  generally yes
[07:13] <Gadi> hey, kemik, thanks for your help...  one of these days I'll find the little bugger...  cheers!
[07:15] <WebWiz> For some reason X never was configured when I installed Ubuntu 5.04 amd 64 version
[07:15] <WebWiz> How do i force ubuntu to detect my video again
[07:15] <WebWiz> X won't start right now, heck x can't even be found
[07:16] <iiiears> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??
[07:16] <iiiears> !display
[07:16] <ubotu> display is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[07:18] <anna> re
[07:18] <anna> alors je suis allez sur ubuntu-fr mais il ont pas pu repondre a mes questions
[07:18] <anna> est ce  que quelqu'un peut m'aider ici
[07:19] <anna> bon je vais rsumer tout a dans votre langue
[07:19] <kemik> anna:  you'll have to use english in here.. even if noone answers in -fr
[07:19] <anna> i seek a geek
[07:19] <iiiears> heh
[07:19] <robin_> _please_ could someone point me how to go in suspend-to-ram through cmd line ?
[07:19] <kemik> anna:  for marriage? ;P
[07:19] <iiiears> lol
[07:19] <Hoxzer> is linuxserver also a unixserver?
[07:20] <WebWiz> Ubuntu LIVECD works fine with my video... but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg says it is unable to discover my video card
[07:20] <anna> it's possible if  you're a good geek
[07:20] <Hoxzer> so is it?
[07:20] <iiiears> nonone marries geeks "nerds" - maybe
[07:20] <garyi> Hello can Ubuntu run on an Apple Mac with OSX?
[07:20] <anna> i've a question
[07:20] <kemik> anna:  cool... just ask away
[07:20] <Hoxzer> :D is unix server also a linux server?
[07:21] <Hoxzer> or...
[07:21] <Hoxzer> I mean is linux server also a unix server?
[07:21] <radeon2> yes i'm back!!
[07:21] <Hoxzer> I just think so couse linux is unix based OS
[07:21] <anna> how to destroy brother's computer with xp
[07:21] <thenuke> Hoxzer: depends on what you mean X-)
[07:21] <r0bby> Hoxzer, a linux server is a linux server
[07:21] <r0bby> linux is unix based
[07:21] <paulproteus> anna: Que veut-tu faire?
[07:21] <r0bby> but it's not "unix"
[07:21] <thenuke> Hoxzer: linux is linux, unix is unix
[07:21] <anna> a paul enfin
[07:21] <LeeColleton> anna: just leave it, it'll destroy itself eventually
[07:22] <paulproteus> Or, perhaps, what do you want to do?
[07:22] <anna> je parle pas englais
[07:22] <zerboxx> Is there a file manager that is closely similar to nautilus (I'm using fvwm so I can't run nautilus)
[07:22] <shanghaiteej> I installed Ubuntu on two hard disk, one is 13 gigs and the other is 60 gigs.  The installation size on my 13 gig hard drive was only 2.5 gigs (not including swap), but my installation on my 60 gig hard drive was about 5 gigs (not including swap)...what gives?  They were both clean installations.
[07:22] <thenuke> Hoxzer: now You do the googling, ok?  google for "linux" and "unix"
[07:22] <garyi> Hello can Ubuntu run on an Apple Mac with OSX?
[07:22] <Hoxzer> Thenuke: I mean can you call linux server as an unix server
[07:22] <paulproteus> *anglais*! :)
[07:22] <thenuke> Hoxzer: you mean you dont want to google?
[07:22] <anna> sur ubuntu-fr il ont pas pu m'aider
[07:22] <dv__> zerboxx, rox, gentoo, xfe come to mind
[07:22] <Hoxzer> Thenuke: and how should I google the answer for that? :D
[07:22] <paulproteus> anna: Helas.  Que veut-tu faire?
[07:22] <dv__> (yes, there is a filemanager called gentoo)
[07:22] <thenuke> Hoxzer: I and We mean that the unix is an unix. linux is an linux.
[07:22] <zerboxx> dv__: I'm not liking rox, gentoo is hideous, but I'll check xfe
[07:22] <thenuke> Hoxzer: just like I said you
[07:22] <robin_> since when do we speak french here?
[07:23] <robin_> je ne parle pas francais
[07:23] <dv__> fine fine
[07:23] <anna> t'es toujours occup
[07:23] <Hoxzer> I know that linux is not unix
[07:23] <iiiears> shanghaiteej, - different cluster sizes l
[07:23] <dv__> everything working well. nice linux distro.
[07:23] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  well, depends on your clustersizes
[07:23] <anna> je peux revenir plus tard
[07:23] <thenuke> Hoxzer: why do you then ask if linux is unix and so on
[07:23] <r0bby> Hoxzer, call it daddy for all I care
[07:23] <dv__> it even recognized the USB mouse when I plugged it in - while running X
[07:23] <shanghaiteej> what are clustersizes?
[07:23] <r0bby> you can call it what you want
[07:23] <thenuke> Hoxzer: is Commodore-64 -server pentium-4 -server?
[07:23] <dv__> thats quite amazing :D
[07:23] <r0bby> =)
[07:24] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  large disk = large clustersize, small disk = small cluster size... a 1 byte file will occupy an entire cluster (which is different in size depending on your partiotns size.. )
[07:24] <thenuke> Hoxzer: oh my bad, those were not different OS but different architecture
[07:24] <r0bby> thenuke, i don't think he's getting it
[07:24] <iiiears> minimum data structure size
[07:24] <gimbal> Hoxzer: is unix server also a linux server? - depends on how you define Unix
[07:24] <Hoxzer> thenuke: I asked can I call linux server as an unix server couse linux is unix based OS..
[07:24] <paulproteus> anna: je suis alle a #ubuntu-fr ; parle-moi la
[07:24] <anna> oui monsieur
[07:24] <gimbal> Linux has whole POSIX compatability - not always all of it active, afaik, but it can be enabled (possibly to some annoyance)
[07:24] <r0bby> Hoxzer, a linux server is a linux server
[07:24] <Hoxzer> I know it now...
[07:24] <iiiears> Hoxser - are you trying to stir up a holy war? - rofl
[07:24] <gimbal> like, enabled in regards to some command-line args or somesuch
[07:24] <kemik> paulproteus really has the upper hand in this... he'll get the girl and im stuck here with the rest of you... :|
[07:24] <r0bby> just accept it
[07:25] <r0bby> it's a linux server
[07:25] <Hoxzer> iiiears: no but I think some guys just miss understood me
[07:25] <robin_> kemik: learn french :)
[07:25] <gimbal> saying Unix as synonym of Linux might seem to lend more strength to what one is talking about
[07:25] <thenuke> Hoxzer: I asked you to google for linux and unix
[07:25] <r0bby> no
[07:25] <anna> comment faire pour que point2play reconnaisse cedega
[07:25] <r0bby> Hoxzer, google will help you
[07:25] <gimbal> "just don't let SCO see it" heh
[07:25] <r0bby> just do it
[07:25] <r0bby> =)
[07:25] <paulproteus> anna: #ubuntu-fr , s'il te plait.  J'y suis alle moi-meme.
[07:25] <anna> pardon je n'avais pas compris j'y retourne
[07:26] <Hoxzer> r0bby: I already know the answer I dont think so google will be usefull to me anymore
[07:26] <Hoxzer> *-so
[07:26] <thenuke> Hoxzer: you would find out that unix is an OS and linux is an OS. and unix is not an linux and linux is not an unix
[07:26] <iiiears> Hoxser, - NP - Linus Torvaldis was trying to create the unix system he couldn't afford to buy ( 5 grand)
[07:26] <dv__> linux is somehow unix compatible
[07:26] <paulproteus> iiiears: Minix wasn't actually UNIX, just UNIX-like.
[07:27] <thenuke> and compatibility does not make one as another. so linux is not unix. unix is not linux.
[07:27] <mjr> if we're gonna start splitting hairs, unix is not an OS
[07:27] <paulproteus> Just as Mac OS 10.2 is not Mac OS 10.3
[07:27] <iiiears> true enough - crusades have started. - todays schedule includes at 12p a lively debate of the virtues of emacs over VI
[07:27] <mjr> not anymore, anyway; it's an OS spesification and the attached brand-name
[07:28] <shanghaiteej> kemik:  So Ubuntu adjusts to the cluster size of your hard disk?  So does that mean the bigger the cluster size, the better?
[07:28] <dv__> isnt that filesystem specific?
[07:28] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  nawh,, the filesystem does
[07:28] <gimbal> mjr: yes, and the costs for ("single"?) UNIX certification - which, of course, nobody wants to pay about the always-actively-developed linux
[07:29] <shanghaiteej> kemik: so that's good in what way?
[07:29] <dv__> "linux is not unix"
[07:29] <dv__> hmm
[07:29] <dv__> guys
[07:29] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  it isnt really. but it's not ubuntus fault, you'll see the same sort of behaviour if you install XP on the same disks
[07:29] <dv__> there is a way to install KDE too
[07:29] <hhurtta> unix is not linux
[07:29] <dv__> like kubuntu does
[07:30] <dv__> apt-get install kde ?
[07:30] <dv__> or
[07:30] <mjr> dv__, kubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <dv__> apt-get install kdesktop ?
[07:30] <dv__> ah, kubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  if a cluster if 4096bytes, then a single 1 byte file will still use up one cluster.. so a 1byte file occupies 4096bytes of space on your harddrive
[07:30] <dv__> thx
[07:30] <iiiears> linux honors the linus. - GNU might be the real breakthrough. (waits to be slapped with a trout.)
[07:30] <shanghaiteej> kemik:  alright, I just wanted to know in case I installed ubuntu wrong, I thought 5 gigs was a lot for a file system.
[07:30] <gimbal> the identity of Unix being so involving to explain, for what it's worth, i"ve seen no problem with equating Linux as a Unix-style OS
[07:30] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  and the same goes for NTFS/FAT/ext.... :)
[07:30] <dv__> arent clusters FAT-specific?
[07:30] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  well, 5gb is much
[07:31] <dv__> holy mother! 113 MB
[07:31] <shanghaiteej> kemik: how do i fix that?
[07:31] <shanghaiteej> kemik: manually partition?
[07:31] <zerboxx> dv__: Thanks for the file managers, I'm going to stick with rox, though I wish it had a tree thing
[07:32] <dv__> whats wrong with xfe?
[07:32] <Mianwalian> Guys
[07:32] <Mianwalian> I have a little problem
[07:32] <dv__> also, if you work much with consoles, consider midnight commander (mc)
[07:32] <zerboxx> dv__: :) they both have features I like and dislike...I just prefer the pros of rox
[07:33] <Mianwalian> can anyone help me with ubuntu
[07:33] <Mianwalian> ?
[07:33] <dv__> Mianwalian, be more precise.
[07:33] <letme0ut> Mianwalian, most likely :-p
[07:33] <Mianwalian> i m using live CD, and previously i have installed the winxp, now i dun know where is my All HD drives are :S
[07:33] <dv__> zerboxx, I use mc often with ion3
[07:33] <Mianwalian> means i m unable to access my data in HD
[07:33] <dv__> this is a weird installation, actually.... kde, gnome, and - ion3 :D
[07:34] <Mianwalian> please help me out
[07:34] <dv__> arent there some icons on the desktop?
[07:34] <dv__> never used the livecd, but the drive icons should be present, shouldnt they?
[07:34] <gimbal> off-topic, but heck. does anyone else think "enterprise" sounds more like science-fiction than some business-school grads might be willing to admit?
[07:34] <shanghaiteej> kemik:  You know how to solve the 5gb cluster size..or is it unsolvable for a 60gb partition...
[07:35] <Mianwalian> dv_ _ nope bro
[07:35] <Mianwalian> they aren't
[07:35] <Mianwalian> :S
[07:35] <Mianwalian> there is only one
[07:35] <Mianwalian> icon
[07:35] <Mianwalian> on desktop
[07:35] <Mianwalian> and that is of
[07:35] <Mianwalian> CD ROM
[07:35] <Mianwalian> no other
[07:35] <Mianwalian> icons
[07:35] <Mianwalian> directing to my Hard Disk Drives
[07:35] <Mianwalian> :S
[07:35] <dv__> err.... write in one sentence, would ya? :)
[07:35] <Mianwalian> okay
[07:35] <Mianwalian> :)
[07:35] <reiki> I don't think I had a cdrom icon on my fresh install last night
[07:36] <Mianwalian> hummmmm
[07:36] <dv__> reiki, its the livecd
[07:36] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  umh.. your clusters are not 5gb in size... :)
[07:36] <Mianwalian> reiki i m using live CD
[07:36] <Mianwalian> :S
[07:36] <gimbal> heyo, if Ubuntu might get any more friendly (however so) with OSTG, I bet that would result in yet more online coverage about Ubuntu
[07:36] <reiki> ahh... sorry... that's what I get for not reading a while before talking :)
[07:36] <dv__> Mianwalian, and the menu with the locations?
[07:36] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar con postgre3
[07:36] <vitriol_> anybody know how to set up a bluetooth mouse in x? i can't find any how-to's on this
[07:36] <dv__> the menu to the top
[07:36] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  but i dont know any way to fix that no
[07:36] <Mianwalian> dv__
[07:36] <Mianwalian> they r present
[07:36] <dv__> theres "Applications" and "Locations" or such
[07:36] <Mianwalian> but i m new to linux
[07:36] <vagamente> Hi all... is there ne1 using OO2?
[07:36] <vitriol_> the mouse is recognized and detected...i can even ping it. just don't know how to add it in x
[07:36] <dv__> there should be something
[07:37] <reiki> mrson espanol?
[07:37] <shanghaiteej> kemik: well crap, 5gb is a lot of ubuntu files to start off with..
[07:37] <Mianwalian> to i dun know whats the path to access my drives on HD
[07:37] <dv__> Mianwalian, just look in the menu
[07:37] <Mianwalian> dv__ bro
[07:37] <shanghaiteej> kemik:  what was the initial size of ubuntu on your box?
[07:37] <Mianwalian> i have explorered all the options in the above menus but i m unable to find on directing to the access of my HD
[07:38] <fl> hi again :-)
[07:38] <dv__> hmm
[07:38] <dv__> start a terminal
[07:38] <Mianwalian> okay
[07:38] <Mianwalian> then
[07:38] <Mianwalian> ?
[07:38] <dv__> "Application" -> System -> Terminal
[07:38] <fl> Concord_Dawn, you still there?
[07:38] <Mianwalian> yep i knew
[07:38] <dv__> type "mount"
[07:38] <Mianwalian> i have started it
[07:38] <Mianwalian> ahaan w8
[07:38] <dv__> and DON'T paste it here
[07:39] <dv__> use http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:39] <nevin> vitriol_: see if you can get it working via "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:39] <kemik> shanghaiteej:  maybe 2-3gb ?
[07:39] <budluva> can anyone tell me why my dvd burner only burns at 4x when i have a 16x burner and 16x media? im using k3b and i can select 8x, but it only reaches maybe 4x at best, usually around 3.2x????
[07:39] <shanghaiteej> kemik: how big was the drive you installed it on?
[07:40] <vitriol_> nevin: was hoping to not have to do that :) i have a pretty customized xorg.conf...but i'll try that anyways to see if it works!
[07:40] <nevin> vitriol_: back up your old xorg.conf and migrate the changes back manually
[07:40] <kemik> shanghaiteej:   20gb
[07:41] <Concord_Dawn> fl, am now, was eating lunch.
[07:41] <shanghaiteej> How big was everyone's initial Ubuntu filesystem?
[07:41] <Concord_Dawn> 2 to 3 gb.
[07:41] <letme0ut> mine was about an inch tall
[07:41] <shanghaiteej> and how big was the hard drive you installed it on?
[07:41] <Mianwalian> Hi guys
[07:41] <Concord_Dawn> 12.
[07:41] <spola> mine 4
[07:41] <Mianwalian> can anyone tell me how can i mount my HD on liveCD
[07:41] <Mianwalian> ?
[07:41] <robin_> _please_ could someone point me how to go in suspend-to-ram through cmd line ?
[07:41] <shanghaiteej> mine was 5 on a 60gb
[07:42] <Concord_Dawn> Mianwalian, mount -t <fs> <device> <mountpoint>
[07:42] <shanghaiteej> spola:  how big was your hard drive?
[07:42] <spola> 4G
[07:42] <Concord_Dawn> robin_, shutdown --help
[07:42] <HappyFool> Mianwalian: i think dv__ is busy doing that; have you pasted the output of 'mount' to the pastebin yet? You might want to also paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' there
[07:42] <spola> maybe a bit (megabytes) more
[07:42] <shanghaiteej> so it just took up all of yoru 4gigs?
[07:43] <shanghaiteej> kemik:  thanks for your help
[07:43] <spola> not all, i still had some place left
[07:43] <robin_> Concord_Dawn: shutdown ?, no I want suspend-toram.. with the scripts etc..
[07:43] <dv__> HappyFool, the partitions arent mounted at all
[07:43] <spola> a little :)
[07:44] <HappyFool> sudo fdisk -l will tell you what partitions ubuntu can see (including unmounted)
[07:44] <dv__> yeah
[07:44] <HappyFool> the sudo password should be blank
[07:44] <Concord_Dawn> robin_, erm.....I was suggesting that you type that into a terminal, it lists all the possible shutdown options, one of those is suspend-to-ram.
[07:44] <iiiears> !winmac_fstab
[07:44] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you on ritalin?
[07:44] <iiiears> !winmac-fstab
[07:44] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, iiiears
[07:44] <HappyFool> heh
[07:44] <robin_> Concord_Dawn: hmm, ok sry. I was looking at my debian server, which has not that option.. will take a look :)
[07:45] <HappyFool> ritalin been substituted for crack? ;)
[07:45] <dv__> its easier to get :)
[07:45] <Concord_Dawn> HappyFool, both are there.
[07:45] <shanghaiteej> kemik:  so 5gigs is nothing to worry about?
[07:46] <HappyFool> !ntfs
[07:46] <fl> Concord_Dawn, where are you from? In Germany, it's 19:46 right now
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> Canada.
[07:46] <Concord_Dawn> GMT -5.
[07:46] <HappyFool> did the answer appear here? seemed to be msg'ed to me.
[07:46] <HappyFool> !ntfs
[07:46] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:47] <h08817> hello
[07:47] <h08817> what does this mean: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[07:47] <oxez> is there a tool to resize my windows partition with the ubuntu cd?
[07:47] <oxez> (graphical)
[07:47] <fl> okso that would put you on the Toronto side of it.
[07:47] <h08817> oxez: do i need a driver or something?
[07:47] <letme0ut> oxez,
[07:47] <iiiears> ubotu mountall is  Easily mount all drives win or mac and add them to fstab script www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[07:47] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[07:47] <letme0ut> not if it is a ntfs
[07:47] <letme0ut> only fat32 can be resized
[07:47] <fl> but what I wanted to say: I like Ubuntu from what I see ;-)
[07:47] <fl> so cool.
[07:48] <nevin> ntfs can be resized in qtparted
[07:48] <Concord_Dawn> yeah it is.
[07:48] <oxez> letme0ut: k so I'll use partition magic from win
[07:48] <letme0ut> ok
[07:48] <fl> after making the installer (or rather the kernel) obey and boot, all went w/o problems. And then that spiffy login sound.
[07:48] <letme0ut> i usually use partition magic
[07:48] <letme0ut> if i have ntfs
[07:48] <Concord_Dawn> yeah I know
[07:48] <gimbal> oxez: parted is as graphical as a text/character-cell screen; for what it's worth, before resizing a dozer partition, boot the ms-dozer system with (iirc) F3  depressed (to prevent it from loading drivers, etc) then run the MS win defrag tool
[07:48] <HappyFool> iiiears: there are several entries already ;) http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/?q=winmac&b=Find+%BB
[07:48] <letme0ut> but idk nevin says qtparted can do it
[07:48] <Concord_Dawn> the login has elite sounds.
[07:48] <letme0ut> ive never used that
[07:49] <nevin> letme0ut: pretty nice interface, comes on knoppix
[07:49] <oxez> gimbal: k I'll try
[07:49] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with setting QTDIR?
[07:49] <gimbal> well, that's for preperation for shrinking a dozer partition
[07:49] <letme0ut> :-)
[07:49] <h08817> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[07:49] <h08817> how can i fix that
[07:49] <gimbal> the typical MSwin-desktopy-system partition format being also known as FAT32  or somesuch
[07:49] <h08817> do i need a video driver?
[07:50] <Concord_Dawn> gimbal, it's NTFS on 2000/XP and FAT32 on Win9.x
[07:50] <letme0ut> i actually have a python and perl script that can resize fat for you
[07:50] <HappyFool> h08817: what program is that?
[07:50] <letme0ut> automatically
[07:50] <fl> when I my 1st slackware install, the we've come a long way :-) I'll try to nicify the Wiki page on old world macs when it's up & running
[07:50] <gimbal> Concord_Dawn: ah; just to be sure, 'cos I hadn't known: NTFS is used on  XP and 2k desktops?
[07:50] <h08817> HappyFool: armyops
[07:50] <fl> I find it a bit confusing right now
[07:50] <eventualbuddha> i have lighttpd installed from apt but it's version 1.3.13. will something bad happen if i attempt to install a deb package of 1.3.16?
[07:50] <Concord_Dawn> yes it is.
[07:50] <Concord_Dawn> NTFS is way better than FAT32.
[07:51] <kemik> anyone know of a good application to read EBOOKS ?
[07:51] <rrittenhouse> I am trying to make a shell script SSH into another box but im not sure how to specify the password when SSH asks for it.. any ideas?
[07:51] <Concord_Dawn> but not as good as Ext3.
[07:51] <h08817> HappyFool: downloaded from americasarmy.com
[07:51] <gimbal> aight; that serves to explain the want for 'write' support in the ntfs drivers in the 2.6 kernel heh
[07:51] <kemik> Concord_Dawn:  ntfs isnt good for dualbooting though
[07:51] <gimbal> also explains how the heck to support migration across the filesystem on 2k and XP systems
[07:51] <Concord_Dawn> kemik, when you have 2 partitions, it don't matter :)
[07:51] <gimbal> or serves to or what
[07:51] <Seveas> rrittenhouse, use rsa authentication "_
[07:51] <eventualbuddha> rrittenhouse: you should use a shared key
[07:51] <h08817> HappyFool: how can i install the video driver rpm
[07:52] <HappyFool> h08817: what video card do you have?
[07:52] <Concord_Dawn> h08817, RPMs are for Redhat, DEBs are for Debian and therefore Ubuntu.
[07:52] <h08817> HappyFool: for an ati radeon 9000
[07:52] <HappyFool> !ati
[07:52] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:52] <Davey|Work> Concord_Dawn: RPMs are not just for Redhat, and you can install them on Debian using Alien
[07:52] <rrittenhouse> Seveas, eventualbuddha: Thanks i didnt think about it that way... so much more secure haha.
[07:52] <Concord_Dawn> heh
[07:52] <HappyFool> h08817: read the instructions on that page (above, from ubotu)
[07:53] <fl> Davey|Work, Alien is evil :-)
[07:53] <HappyFool> h08817: that will tell you how to install the ati drivers for ubuntu
[07:53] <Concord_Dawn> they're not natively Debian, that's the point.
[07:53] <Davey|Work> fl: nah, its saved my bacon a lot :)
[07:53] <fl> but it doesn't capture pre and post scripts
[07:53] <Davey|Work> and? I can configure it myself :)
[07:54] <fl> that's not so nice. Sure you can do that, but who _wants_ to do it?
[07:54] <gimbal> imo, Ubuntu could use the helix-server, helix-producer, helix-producer-sdk pkgs
[07:54] <Davey|Work> its mostly libs that I've installed using alien'ed RPMs, so not a big deal :)
[07:54] <black13> does the ubuntu live cd use squashfs
[07:55] <fl> I'm not questioning your ability, it's just that pointing people to alient IMO just makes them come back with "why didn't it work" questions...
[07:55] <iiiears> black13 - i don't think it does
[07:55] <h08817> well i have the game armyops and i get this error (Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual) will installing that fix my prob?
[07:55] <Davey|Work> but df -h will likely tell you if you're currently booted into it?
[07:55] <HappyFool> h08817: i don't know
[07:55] <HappyFool> h08817: try it and see
[07:55] <black13> iiiears i am looking for for a mini-distro that i can modify/learn from
[07:56] <h08817> HappyFool: any other options if that doesn't work?
[07:56] <rrittenhouse> Ok let me throw this at you to see how you guys would go about it... I have a few kiosks around campus here and instead of staticly assigning them IP addresses I want to be able to find out their IP's when they are assigned dynamically.. I was thinking about having the box use a cron job and ssh in and write a file with that kiosk's ip address....
[07:56] <iiiears> ubuntu lite?  damnsmall linux?
[07:56] <fuoco> anyone knows how to share files between ubuntu and os x ?
[07:56] <black13> is there an ubuntu lite?
[07:57] <nevin> rrittenhouse: just look at the list of leases on your dhcp server
[07:57] <iiiears> yes
[07:57] <HappyFool> h08817: a quick google for that error did not reveal anything definitive; i think it probably is the drivers, but i am not certain
[07:57] <fl> rrittenhouse, is there a way to know the HW addresses of the kisok systems? Then, you could assign them IPs based on what HW address asks
[07:57] <rrittenhouse> nevin: thats kinda complicated with the security here...its on a novell box and we cant just check it out lol ...
[07:58] <gimbal> not sure who's heard of this, but it may be of interest for becoming introduced about matters regarding networking: http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/
[07:58] <h08817> HappyFool: thanks anyway
[07:58] <h08817> HappyFool: i'll give it a try
[07:58] <gimbal> that being Connected:  an Internet Encyclopedia
[07:58] <nevin> rrittenhouse: have them all push their ip addresses to a php script somewhere?
[07:58] <gimbal> also nice, and not as free, but anyone might find it worth licensing a CD of: http://www.tcpipguide.com/index.htm
[07:58] <billytwowilly> what's the easiest way to extract the stuff inside a .bin file?
[07:58] <Davey|Work> gimbal: erm, wikipedia.com? :)
[07:58] <rrittenhouse> nevin: yea im thinking about something like that.... thanks for the ideas.
[07:59] <nevin> no prob
[07:59] <iiiears> gimbal nice link!   (dives in... - grin)
[07:59] <black13> i am about have my ass reamed ... i have an interview with microsoft!
[07:59] <paulproteus> black13: Good luck.
[07:59] <kemik> traitor!!
[07:59] <Davey|Work> black13: good company to work for I hear :)
[07:59] <kemik> good luck ;)
[07:59] <omegalima> flame flame flame loud noises
[07:59] <paulproteus> Well, I don't wish him any ill will, just the company ;)
[07:59] <gimbal> Davey|Work: eeee; wikipedia as a resource about software - its' hard to expain this, but the thought does leave me actually cringing
[08:00] <billytwowilly> black13, good idea, get a job, insert more bugs and maybe a back door;) I like your style;)
[08:00] <iiiears> black13's network was on dsheilds 10 most wanted list?
[08:00] <iiiears> lol
[08:00] <gimbal> software & hardware even; it's not the freeness of the information but the generaly anonymous and possibly oblique quality of the authorship
[08:00] <Davey|Work> gimbal: sorry, but looking that the description "An Internet Encyclopedia" ..
[08:00] <gimbal> Davey|Work: ah; heh
[08:01] <Davey|Work> gimbal: I love this: Welcome! The Internet Encyclopedia is my attempt to take the Internet tradition of open, free protocol specifications, merge it with a 1990s Web presentation, and produce a readable and useful reference to the technical operation of the Internet.
[08:01] <Davey|Work> 1990s, rofl.
[08:01] <Davey|Work> they got that right! Animated gifs and all
[08:01] <billytwowilly> so, what's the easiest way to extract the stuff in a .bin/.cue file?
[08:01] <paulproteus> gimbal: It's a great resource for hardware info.
[08:02] <paulproteus> I used its guide to AMD64 chips to figure out which ones are diff how from each other.
[08:02] <darkheart> billytwowilly I guess easiest way is to burn it =)
[08:02] <budluva> after making an entry in my hdparm.conf do i have to restart for it to take effect?
[08:02] <billytwowilly> darkheart, no burner available...
[08:02] <a1zi> how do i set up a wireless nic on ubuntu..   ive tryed and i cant get it
[08:03] <a1zi> its very complicated
[08:03] <a1zi> or can someone at lest show me a link
[08:03] <a1zi> please!
[08:04] <a1zi> ill love you for ever
[08:04] <gimbal> paulproteus: ok; will like bookmark it for such, & such; danke
[08:04] <h08817> well how can i install a 3d accelerator
[08:04] <h08817> for a ati radeon 9000
[08:05] <paulproteus> a1zi: What wireless card?
[08:05] <a1zi> paulproteus: wmp54gs   linksys card
[08:06] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, you haev any other idea's to solve it?
[08:06] <kakei> hallo
[08:06] <a1zi> i dont need the support for the speedboost.. i know it wont work....
[08:06] <kakei> somebody help me to install xmms on my ubuntu................
[08:06] <darkheart> billytwowilly Well, I don't know much on the matter, but you can try converting the bin/cue file into an iso and then try mounting the .iso file on a loopback device and reading it like that. You might be able to do it from just the .bin file..but I doubt it.
[08:06] <h08817> !xmms
[08:06] <ubotu> h08817: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:07] <kakei> yup
[08:07] <paulproteus> a1zi: install ndiswrapper, and then use it to install the Windows driver from the CD
[08:07] <paulproteus> http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_wmp54gs has a little info, but be careful not to follow it too carefully
[08:07] <kakei> i read from guide
[08:07] <billytwowilly> darkheart, already download bchunk;) I just remembered I could do that;) thanks for the tip.
[08:07] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[08:07] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:07] <paulproteus> (It's for Gentoo, so some directions won't translate)
[08:07] <kakei> but not work
[08:07] <a1zi> i did try that..  but i get an operations is not permitted
[08:07] <rrittenhouse> Is there a system variable on an ubuntu system that holds the IP address?
[08:07] <darkheart> billytwowilly =) Good luck. Let me know if you can do it. I'm curious.
[08:08] <a1zi> paulproteus:  i did try that..  but i get an operations is not permitted
[08:08] <paulproteus> a1zi: You had better be doing this stuff using sudo.
[08:08] <a1zi> i was
[08:08] <a1zi> paulproteus:  i was
[08:08] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: what I said should have erased the hard drive
[08:08] <a1zi> paulproteus:  both ways..  as root  and with sudo
[08:08] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: So I don't know what you're asking about.
[08:08] <paulproteus> It may take a while.
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know how to save an iPod after a bad reformatting attempt?
[08:08] <a1zi> paulproteus:  but the are both the same essentailly
[08:09] <billytwowilly> darkheart, I've mounted iso files before.. it's just a matter of getting an iso file;)
[08:09] <paulproteus> a1zi: Yes.
[08:09] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, it didn't work
[08:09] <RootX|Arphetic> Somehow i can't make a primary disk using FDISK after that
[08:09] <RootX|Arphetic> :/
[08:09] <billytwowilly> darkheart, and remembering the right stuff to put behind "mount" to get the iso to mount;)
[08:09] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Once you've zeroed the partition table, go straight to the Windows partitioner.
[08:10] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, it didn't work
[08:10] <a1zi> paulproteus: i reinstalled ubuntu thinking i used the wrong kernel..   so i havnt tryed this instalation yet  but.. i am doubtful it will work
[08:10] <darkheart> billytwowilly Hehe, I just looked it up 'mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/dir' That came from a gentoo wiki page though.
[08:10] <paulproteus> !ndis
[08:10] <ubotu> methinks ndis is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper or http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[08:10] <paulproteus> a1zi: That should take care of you.
[08:10] <thespiritoftal> is there a way to configure xchat so that it will always connect to channels I want on default every startup?
[08:10] <Concord_Dawn> dark, it works that way on Ubuntu as well.
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> yes thespiritoftal
[08:11] <kemik> billytwowilly:  tried "bin2iso" ?
[08:11] <a1zi> paulproteus: what should... the web site..
[08:11] <a1zi> ?
[08:11] <darkheart> Concord_Dawn Cool.
[08:11] <paulproteus> a1zi: the web sites there, yes
[08:11] <a1zi> paulproteus: thanks bro
[08:11] <thespiritoftal> Concord-Dawn: how?
[08:12] <budluva> anyone aware of a howto for upgrading firmware for a dvd burner in ubuntu?
[08:12] <h08817> thespiritoftal: it is easy just do this
[08:13] <h08817> thespiritoftal: edit that connection u want to connect to all the time
[08:13] <billytwowilly> kemik, I haven't tried that. doesn't appear to be in the ubuntu repository.
[08:13] <h08817> then in one of the boxes it will say channels and u type in #channel
[08:13] <kenny> hi guys
[08:14] <billytwowilly> kemik, I tried bchunk, but it outputed 2 iso files... I'm a bit confused
[08:14] <kakei> p
[08:14] <kenny> I need some help with running a MySql data base, can anyone help me
[08:14] <kemik> billytwowilly:  it's not :) it's a small .c program
[08:14] <billytwowilly> kemik, linky?
[08:14] <Concord_Dawn> kenny, search in Synaptic for mysql
[08:15] <kenny> Concord i have it all installed, but i can seem to get aconnection, it keeps failing
[08:15] <kenny> *i cant
[08:15] <billytwowilly> kemik,  does this look right to mount the iso? mount -o loop -t iso9660 isoname
[08:15] <kemik> billytwowilly:  http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[08:15] <senile_implant> kenny, what erros are you getting?
[08:15] <darkheart> billytwowilly I don't think you  need the -t part
[08:16] <kemik> billytwowilly:  yes, "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /paht/isofile.iso /mountpoint"
[08:16] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I chmod all the files in a directory instead of doing it one at a time?
[08:16] <kenny> it wont connect when i tell it to conect
[08:16] <liran_> i wish there were some less-consuming-ram&cpu alternative to openoffice so i can work out my word files
[08:16] <darkheart> kenny Won't connect...how so?
[08:17] <kenny> it will only connect when i dont set a username/password
[08:17] <darkheart> AMCDeathKnight Just use the * wildcard
[08:17] <kemik> billytwowilly:  there's also another application called "cdemu" that lets you mount .cue/.bin without conversion.. however it did not work for me on Sim City .bin/.cue :(
[08:17] <AMCDeathKnight> thanks
[08:17] <darkheart> kenny I don't understand..firstly, how are you connecting to it? Just command line?
[08:17] <kenny> this is the error im getting [ebshop]  ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'test@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[08:17] <jai> can anyone help me setup tightvnc on ubuntu?
[08:17] <billytwowilly> kemik, what commands should I pass to compile the small c program? I'm used to .configure ./make ...
[08:17] <kenny> no i am using MySqlCC
[08:18] <kemik> billytwowilly:  gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c
[08:18] <darkheart> kenny Well, it sounds like you need to study MySQL a bit more. You need to grant privileges to that user.
[08:18] <budluva> what codecs/plugins do i need installed to view .vobs?
[08:18] <kenny> is there a simple way to do it.
[08:18] <budluva> just libdvdcss2?
[08:18] <kenny> using MySqlCC
[08:18] <senile_implant> what is mysqlcc?
[08:18] <kemik> budluva:  afaik yes
[08:18] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar con postgresql?
[08:18] <darkheart> kenny I don't use MySQLcc
[08:18] <kemik> !restricted
[08:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:19] <zerboxx> I have a problem.  I was running gnome&metacity, and I set up my media keys on my keyboard.  Now I've switched to fvwm, but my "home" key which opened up nautilus still does, but I have NO clue how to stop it, any idea?
[08:19] <darkheart> kenny Just go to the mysql site, then search for the 'grant' command, and you can connect as root and grant privileges to a user that you create.
[08:19] <kenny> ohh righ, thanks guys
[08:20] <senile_implant> i prefer phpmyadmin if you have mysql set up with apache
[08:20] <billytwowilly> kemik, so I just go bin2iso filename.bin and it should work?
[08:20] <jai> I am unable to setup a TightVNC server properly. I am able to login into a remote desktop using the viewwer just fine but I cannot do the same with the server running on my ubuntu box. It just gives me a black pixelated garbled screen!
[08:20] <kemik> billytwowilly:  yeah
[08:20] <billytwowilly> k, here goes nothing;)
[08:20] <a1zi> my kernel version is to low to install wifi..  what do i do?
[08:20] <billytwowilly> sweet!
[08:21] <billytwowilly> kemik, it worked! thanks.
[08:21] <nickrud> zerboxx, run gnome-keybinding-properties, and hit backspace on the shortcut, that should disable it.
[08:21] <kemik> np billytwowilly
[08:21] <darkheart> jai How did you set it up?
[08:21] <a1zi> my kernel version is to low to install wifi..  what do i do?
[08:21] <jai> i downloaded the rpm, converted to deb package
[08:22] <Concord_Dawn> alzi, upgrade your kernel? what version you have?
[08:22] <h08817> a1zi: what ubuntu version are u using?
[08:22] <darkheart> jai =\ Well, uninstall it and install the one in the Ubuntu repository.
[08:22] <jai> the first time it gave me an could not start Xvnc error so i changed the fontPath
[08:22] <zerboxx> nickrud: Oh thanks a million!
[08:22] <jai> is there a server?
[08:22] <jai> in the ubuntu rep?
[08:22] <darkheart> jai Yeah, I use it.
[08:22] <jai> it's not showing up when I do update
[08:22] <jai> do i need to add a repository?
[08:23] <darkheart> jai Probably, if it's not appearing. Are you using Synaptic or command line?
[08:23] <jai> synaptic
[08:23] <darkheart> jai And nothing comes up when you search for vnc?
[08:23] <jai> only the viewer
[08:23] <DukGalNamu> ok, this firefox problem is seriouse....
[08:23] <senile_implant> jai, there's a tutorial here if you need: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:24] <DukGalNamu> java doesn't work
[08:24] <jai> k, ill check that out
[08:24] <jai> thanks
[08:24] <senile_implant> np
[08:24] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, you sure java is installed?
[08:24] <DukGalNamu> javascript crashes each time
[08:24] <darkheart> lol
[08:24] <kemik> DukGalNamu:  followed the java.howto?
[08:24] <kemik> !java
[08:24] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:24] <darkheart> DukGalNamu JavaScript has nothing to do with Java.
[08:24] <h08817> installed an ati driver now a game just won't run
[08:24] <a1zi> ubuntu hoarty 5.04
[08:24] <h08817> any ideas
[08:25] <djtric> is there a substitute for flash mx in linux?! i'm just curious..hehe
[08:25] <brk3> has anyone made packages of the new amarok..
[08:25] <DukGalNamu> yeah, well its the java script that keeps on crashing
[08:25] <a1zi> h08817: hoarty 5.04
[08:25] <budluva> a1zi in a console type uname -r to get your kernel verison
[08:25] <apokryphos> !amarok1.3
[08:25] <ubotu> apokryphos: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:25] <h08817> ok
[08:25] <apokryphos> hm
[08:25] <Gadi> kemik: fixed it!  I put "umask 002" into ~/.gnomerc and it fixed things
[08:25] <Gadi> kemik: thx again!
[08:25] <darkheart> DukGalNamu The JavaScript crashes? How so?
[08:25] <h08817> a1zi: and they didn't help u yet
[08:25] <a1zi> h08817: 2.6.10
[08:26] <apokryphos> brk3: short answer: there are some packs on the forum, but I'm not sure if there's only beta3
[08:26] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: it stops loading and firefox stops responding, and this is after repeted re installs
[08:26] <a1zi> h08817: no
[08:26] <a1zi> h08817: they didnt
[08:26] <joseduenas> hello
[08:26] <h08817> ok well u are installed wifi correct
[08:26] <a1zi> h08817: how do i update a kernel
[08:26] <h08817> is it a usb
[08:26] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Okay...Are you sure you're not talking about Java? You don't really see JavaScript load.
[08:26] <a1zi> no.. it is a pci
[08:26] <budluva> a1zi your kernel is new enough you shouldn't need to update
[08:26] <senile_implant> darkheart, what URL are you referring to?
[08:27] <h08817> and how do u know u have to update ur kernel?
[08:27] <joseduenas> i got a little problem. dvd playing going jumpy
[08:27] <senile_implant> err DukGalNamu
[08:27] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: no loading a page that uses it
[08:27] <djtric> anyone here having with the corner-xmms gdesklet?!
[08:27] <joseduenas> i'm using gxine
[08:27] <concept10> apokryphos, I did, I hate KDE apps
[08:27] <budluva> joseduenas try enabling dma on your dvd drive
[08:27] <a1zi> h08817: a website told me the prerequisites and my kernel is lower than 2.6.6
[08:27] <h08817> a1zi: does ur computer actually tell u u need a newer kernel
[08:27] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: for instance, when ilog out of yahoo, or go onto my suppliers web page
[08:27] <h08817> o ok
[08:27] <a1zi> h08817: LOL  no
[08:27] <apokryphos> concept10: aha! Just wait there while I grab my axe
[08:27] <h08817> !kernel
[08:27] <darkheart> senile_implant Hm?
[08:27] <a1zi> in terminal?
[08:27] <concept10> apokryphos, j/k
[08:27] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: i know they need java script to work
[08:27] <senile_implant> darkheart, sorry wron gperson
[08:27] <apokryphos> concept10: :)
[08:27] <Srekel> I got a question
[08:28] <RootX|Arphetic> Wouw I really enjoy linux screansavers!
[08:28] <darkheart> senile_implant np =)
[08:28] <joseduenas> budluva, mm, thanks, i'm going to try, thanks
[08:28] <a1zi> h08817: talk to me in private chat?
[08:28] <h08817> well do this
[08:28] <h08817> a1zi: type !kernel
[08:28] <budluva> joseduenas sudo hdparm -d1 /media/cdrom0 or whatever your dvd drive is
[08:28] <h08817> in this screen
[08:28] <a1zi> !kernel
[08:28] <darkheart> DukGalNamu You don't have any plugins that prevent javascript from loading?
[08:28] <apokryphos> brk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=304006&postcount=54
[08:29] <Srekel> there are places where people/docs say you should edit the .xsession or the .xinitrc file
[08:29] <h08817> wait a little bit and ubotu should tell u stuff
[08:29] <Srekel> but I can't find one
[08:29] <apokryphos> ubotu: amarok1.3 is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=304006&postcount=54
[08:29] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[08:29] <Spudchat> is it possible to bridge my interent connection to another machine?
[08:29] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: not htat i am aware of... in fact i don't think i have ANY plugins
[08:29] <h08817> !americas army
[08:29] <ubotu> h08817: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:29] <Srekel> is there something I'm missing?
[08:29] <budluva> Spudchat what kind of internet connection are you talkin about?
[08:29] <Spudchat> i use wifi
[08:29] <h08817> any1 play americas army
[08:29] <a1zi> looks like there isnt a 2.6.6
[08:29] <nickrud> Srekel, you simply create it, and should use you should create .xsession
[08:29] <bjw> I come here to ask a question that is hunting me.
[08:29] <Spudchat> but would like to connect through ethernet
[08:29] <budluva> eek, i have 0 experience with wifi :P
[08:29] <joseduenas> budluva, thanks
[08:29] <Spudchat> doh
[08:30] <brk3> h08817: is it on a laptop?
[08:30] <a1zi> no...  desktop
[08:30] <Srekel> nickrud, oh ok, thanks
[08:30] <darkheart> DukGalNamu I'm still wondering if you mean Java doesn't work...Can you play games from http://games.yahoo.com ?
[08:30] <a1zi> its a pci card
[08:30] <budluva> joseduenas ok now sudo hdparm /media/cdrom0 and see if it enabled dma
[08:30] <bjw> Is there a Music Management software that is available in linux other than rhthmbox that works well?
[08:30] <h08817> brk3: no
[08:30] <apokryphos> bjw: there are far superior ones, yes.
[08:30] <brk3> apokryphos: sweet, thanks :)
[08:30] <apokryphos> bjw: see amaroK and JuK
[08:30] <h08817> brk3: just installed ati drivers to improve the quality of the game but now won't run
[08:30] <bjw> apokryphos, both of them are KDE
[08:30] <brk3> bjw: amarok!
[08:31] <bjw> ?
[08:31] <apokryphos> bjw: correct
[08:31] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: i would love to try, but hte page fails to load
[08:31] <brk3> h08817: just wondering
[08:31] <h08817> brk3: o u can't help me out?
[08:31] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: and firefox crashed again
[08:31] <Spudchat> hmm ok thanks guys ill see what i can find online
[08:31] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Open up a terminal, then run firefox from the terminal.
[08:31] <brk3> h08817: do the drivers work in general though? its just im thinking of buying a laptop that has an ati card.. sorry cant really help though
[08:32] <h08817> o ati is great
[08:32] <h08817> its one of the best video cards I think
[08:32] <brk3> h08817: just linux supprt isnt meant to be great
[08:32] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: no error messages and it froze again
[08:33] <darkheart> DukGalNamu It doesn't produce an error message to the console when it crashes?
[08:33] <h08817> brk3: well it usually isn't unless u bought linux
[08:33] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: nope
[08:33] <uno> #q
[08:33] <h08817> brk3: this room is so so in help
[08:33] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, have you tried disabling javascript?
[08:33] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, and does this error happen in other browsers?
[08:34] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: yes, without disabling java, and i have no problems, but some websites require it
[08:34] <brk3> apokryphos: sorry for asking, but are there packages compiled with kde3.3? or will those ones still work..
[08:34] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: i have no other browsers
[08:34] <joseduenas> budluva, ok, the playins is perfect ! thanks. dma is activated now
[08:35] <iiiears> ubotu keyboard
[08:35] <ubotu> iiiears: I don't know
[08:35] <h08817> anyone play americas army?
[08:35] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, does anything appear in your /var/log/messages file?
[08:35] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: if you could point me to one that supports javascript and java, and doesn't require gnome of kde ....
[08:35] <h08817> i need some help setting something up
[08:35] <apokryphos> brk3: only 3.2 libs are required, but why don't you have 3.4?
[08:35] <DukGalNamu> let me check
[08:35] <brk3> apokryphos: im on dialup, so couldnt update from the default
[08:35] <anacron> can i have a backround in unix side?
[08:35] <apokryphos> brk3: are you on warty?
[08:36] <mititelu> hey, how can i access the root account?
[08:36] <brk3> apokryphos: wait.. i do have 3.4!
[08:36] <apokryphos> =)
[08:36] <bwlang> anybody know how to get a webcam to work... it's recognized by my system but i get no image in gqcam or camstream
[08:36] <brk3> thought i didnt :)
[08:36] <brk3> apokryphos: 3.4.0 - will that work ok?
[08:36] <RootX|Arphetic> mmm
[08:36] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, afaik you need a window manager for browsers that support java/JS
[08:36] <apokryphos> brk3: indeed it will.
[08:36] <apokryphos> it should
[08:36] <anacron> mititelu: you should use sudo, but sudo passwd root and then use su to change
[08:36] <brk3> apokryphos: much appreciated
[08:36] <RootX|Arphetic> paulproteus, in FDISK i have to make a primary partition, and reboot after that. Is turning of and on not good?
[08:36] <joseduenas> budluva, the only thing that is not so well is that the image is not clear, i can see little dots
[08:36] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: i have fluxbox
[08:37] <apokryphos> brk3: unless that package was made badly ;-)
[08:37] <mititelu> anacron i'm not familiar with linux, how do i do that?
[08:37] <kenny> hi guys srry to annoy but i need help again
[08:37] <joseduenas> budluva, i'm using ndivia drivers dor ubuntu
[08:37] <anacron> mititelu: ubotu will give a link for you
[08:37] <anacron> !sudo
[08:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:37] <kenny> this is the error message oscommerce gives me FATAL ERROR: register_globals is disabled in php.ini, please enable it!
[08:37] <bjw> thnx apokryphos and brk3
[08:37] <kenny> i have enabled it it still wont go away
[08:37] <mititelu> thanks
[08:37] <kenny> what can i do
[08:37] <bjw> i think i am going to install kde fully
[08:37] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, I'd recommend giving opera a try. It supports CSS better than Firefox too
[08:37] <bwlang> the light turns on when i tell it to capture but i only see grey...
[08:37] <RootX|Arphetic> is paulproteus afk?
[08:38] <apokryphos> bjw: very good idea IMO =)
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Hi.
[08:38] <bjw> apokryphos, you use KDE?
[08:38] <apokryphos> bjw: indeed
[08:38] <brk3> bjw: what did i do to? :)
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Just follow its directions.
[08:38] <RootX|Arphetic> Hi
[08:38] <darkheart> kenny You should be asking these questions in a different channel =) I don't think register_globals is a good idea, but I don't remember. Just edit your /etc/php.ini file.
[08:38] <bjw> brk3, suggestion
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: If fdisk says "do something, then reboot", just do it.
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: MS fdisk works in mystical ways.
[08:38] <RootX|Arphetic> I can't
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Hmm?
[08:38] <joseduenas> what video driver is better to use in gxine for dvd playing ?
[08:38] <RootX|Arphetic> there is no reboot button on laptop ;)
[08:38] <bjw> apokryphos, i have questions about it
[08:38] <RootX|Arphetic> thats the problem
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Turning it off and on is okay, instead, then.
[08:38] <h08817> !mount
[08:38] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:38] <bjw> is there a wifi monitor?
[08:38] <bwlang> anybody know how to force unmount an nfs mount
[08:38] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: You could do ctrl-alt-delete
[08:38] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: nothing in the messages log, but it recorded all three of my restarts since i installed ubuntu about 6 months ago :P
[08:39] <RootX|Arphetic> mmm
[08:39] <h08817> how do u mount a hd
[08:39] <apokryphos> bjw: yes; kwifimanager or something like that
[08:39] <kenny> i have enabled it in php.ini but it still comes up with the same error
[08:39] <h08817> fdisk?
[08:39] <bjw> k
[08:39] <RootX|Arphetic> However after that, it doesnt recognise the disk again
[08:39] <darkheart> kenny Did you restart apache?
[08:39] <kenny> do i have to do that
[08:39] <nevin> h08817: lok at the mount manpage
[08:39] <paulproteus> RootX|Arphetic: Well, complain to MS then. ;)
[08:39] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[08:39] <darkheart> kenny Are you trying to use a browser-based app?
[08:39] <paulproteus> nevin: That's a punishment, not a suggestion.
[08:39] <anacron> guys guys! is it possible to have unix backround?
[08:39] <h08817> nevin: and?
[08:39] <paulproteus> !mount
[08:39] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:40] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, that's odd it's crashing with no error message
[08:40] <paulproteus> !windowsdrives
[08:40] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[08:40] <kenny> im using firefox, but i used gedit to modify the file
[08:40] <Spudchat> has anyone gotten the linksys WUSB54GP to work in ubuntu?
[08:40] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: i can't seem to find opera in synaptic...
[08:40] <Spudchat> it comes with a cd full of windows driver :| but not a single one for linux
[08:40] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, you probably need to downlaod the .deb file from http://www.opera.com
[08:40] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: ok
[08:40] <apokryphos> DukGalNamu: they have ubuntu debs there; work well
[08:41] <brk3> h08817: sudo mount -t /dev/drive /location
[08:41] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: well, goodby firefox, and goodby pimpzilla theme
[08:41] <VnR> anyone could help me , i just installed ubuntu warty 4.10 but i only have a console , how do i get the desktop version ? thx
[08:41] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, lol i hope you find what caused this though
[08:41] <brk3> anacron: wha?
[08:42] <anacron> brk3: if i change to tty1, can i have backround in there
[08:42] <paulproteus> VnR: I urge you to get the more recent Ubuntu release Hoary 05.04 .
[08:42] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, maybe try submitting a bug report with Firefox too
[08:42] <nevin> VnR: and make sure not to do a "server"-type install
[08:42] <brk3> anacron: dont think so
[08:42] <VnR> senile_implant , how do i remove the older version ?
[08:42] <apokryphos> VnR: you can just update from there
[08:42] <apokryphos> !upgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:43] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: wehre would i do that?
[08:43] <iiiears> ubotu keybinding is console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[08:43] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[08:43] <h08817> thanks all
[08:43] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, try googling firefox bugzilla
[08:43] <VnR> this is what i did : sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:43] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: and opera is not opensource!!!!
[08:43] <iiiears> nickrud - nice tip! :)
[08:43] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, no, it's not
[08:44] <apokryphos> VnR: it won't do anything if you don't do the sed stuff
[08:44] <apokryphos> VnR: of if you don't manually alter your sources.list
[08:44] <VnR> how do i do from within the consloe
[08:44] <nickrud> iiiears :)
[08:44] <concept10> Where do I go to get the sources for the breezy repos?
[08:44] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell VnR about upgrade
[08:45] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, if you need opensource you could also try Epiphany, Galleon, etc
[08:45] <concept10> !breezy
[08:45] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:45] <EasterSunshine> hello, i am having trouble installing the m4 package, apt-get is requesting the kubuntu cd, but the cd is in 20 pieces in front of me. how can i force it to get m4 from the internet sources?
[08:45] <Thewarmachine> hey guys
[08:45] <darkheart> EasterSunshine Modify your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: actually interestingly enough i have three errors in my javasconsole
[08:45] <concept10> apokryphos, you know where the repo list for breezy is?
[08:45] <nevin> EasterSunshine: from synaptic, you can disable the cd repository
[08:45] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: remove the cd source from yoru sources.list
[08:46] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: they don't seem like the type that would stop javascript from wroking though
[08:46] <apokryphos> concept10: ubuntuguide has an example
[08:46] <seb__> hi ubuntu linux channel here?
[08:46] <apokryphos> concept10: you may well end up damaging your system though. Proceed at your own peril :D
[08:46] <gimbal> for what it's worth, folks might want to recommend the xdebconfigurator package for people setting up xf86
[08:47] <gimbal> I'm just learning of it; haven't used it; i trust the debconf stuff, though
[08:47] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: xml parsing error: no element found
[08:47] <concept10> apokryphos, Im pissed off because some breezy packages are in debian stable.
[08:47] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, you don't have like some sorta release of firefox do you?
[08:47] <VnR> ok thx guys , i will trying this update
[08:47] <apokryphos> concept10: why is that pissing you off. Some breezy packages are in hoary stable
[08:48] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: i have the latest ubuntu version of firefox
[08:48] <gimbal> it xdebconfiguator appears to use (originally, RHAT's) kudzu and the 'discover' libraries, for probing the hardware; looks like it can use hwinfo, xresprobe, detect for the same purposes
[08:48] <Spudchat> has anyone gotten the linksys WUSB54GP to work in ubuntu?
[08:49] <Thewarmachine> dukgalnamu have you fuxed your problem yet
[08:49] <Thewarmachine> ?
[08:49] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell me about repos
[08:50] <darkheart> !repositories
[08:50] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:50] <jai> i need some help with setting up tightvnc server
[08:50] <jai> darkheart you there?
[08:50] <darkheart> jai Yeah, for a bit
[08:50] <iiiears> !vnc
[08:50] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[08:50] <darkheart> lol @ iiiears
[08:50] <DukGalNamu> Thewarmachine: nope
[08:50] <iiiears> !tighvnc
[08:50] <ubotu> iiiears: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:50] <Thewarmachine> !crack
[08:50] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[08:50] <jai> i added the reps and downloaded the correct package
[08:50] <darkheart> LOL
[08:50] <jai> and it's better
[08:50] <iiiears> ubotu you are an amnesiac
[08:50] <senile_implant> DukGalNamu, sorry man i've gotta take off. Sorry i couldn't help you more
[08:50] <ubotu> iiiears: what are you talking about?
[08:51] <jai> but it still does not load the desktop correctly
[08:51] <DukGalNamu> senile_implant: that alright.....
[08:51] <darkheart> DukGalNamu You have Java installed?
[08:51] <darkheart> jai How so?
[08:51] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: yeah
[08:51] <jai> the logs say, xrdb: no such file or dir
[08:51] <darkheart> DukGalNamu This is an outside bet, but try uninstall java and firefox. Then reinstall firefox, and see if it still causes trouble.
[08:52] <DukGalNamu> whaooo!!!
[08:52] <jai> and option --login is not supported  in this version of the gnome terminal
[08:52] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: hey, opera crashed
[08:52] <darkheart> DukGalNamu How/where?
[08:52] <Thewarmachine> man I think opera is overrated
[08:52] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: the same place firefox crashe, on my distributers web page
[08:53] <darkheart> jai Do you need to log into a separate X session? If you just want to log into the active session, it's built into ubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <jai> oh
[08:53] <darkheart> DukGalNamu No errors?
[08:53] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: nope
[08:53] <jai> i just need access to the active session from my xp box
[08:53] <darkheart> DukGalNamu It's starting to sound like your system is behaving strangely.
[08:53] <jai> sorry, i'm a newbie
[08:54] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: ok how do i uninstall java?
[08:54] <steve-sharpe> new to ubuntu
[08:54] <darkheart> jai Np. In that case, you have it easy. Uninstall that vnc crap, go to System->Preferences->Remote Dekstop.
[08:54] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: maybe i should go for a restart?
[08:54] <steve-sharpe> has anyone been able to get a Lexmark X74 working?
[08:54] <darkheart> jai That's it.
[08:54] <darkheart> DukGalNamu When you install packages, do you use Synaptic or command line?
[08:54] <jai> oh thanks
[08:55] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: when i download a deb i use command line, when its already in the repo i use synaptic
[08:55] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Okay, well, use synaptic and do a search for java, see if your installed package comes up.
[08:56] <RootX|Arphetic> Isnt there some Partition Magic kinda software on diskette ?
[08:57] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: it only finds the free java sdk and java common
[08:57] <Thewarmachine> yeah rootx
[08:57] <Thewarmachine> you gotta make t first though
[08:57] <darkheart> DukGalNamu That's not what you have installed?
[08:57] <RootX|Arphetic> ?
[08:57] <DukGalNamu> i installed the package from the java website
[08:57] <Goodspeed> how do i create a new user in terminal?
[08:58] <RootX|Arphetic> omg what a gayhead
[08:58] <RootX|Arphetic> :/
[08:58] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic, language...
[08:58] <RootX|Arphetic> sorry :] 
[08:58] <apokryphos> Goodspeed: adduser <someuser>
[08:58] <Seveas> Goodspeed, sudo adduser
[08:58] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: it shouldn't give me a latest version...
[08:58] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Ah...Hm...You should really stick to the repositories before you go installing other things.
[08:58] <Goodspeed> do i have to define a group?
[08:58] <Goodspeed> or a password?
[08:58] <DanteAlighieri> Anyone know how to mount drives that are seen by a PCI-E SATA card when the drives are seen by the card and the card is seen by Linux?
[08:58] <Seveas> a password
[08:58] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: in wither case... how do i go about uninstalling it?
[08:59] <DukGalNamu> *either
[08:59] <Seveas> DanteAlighieri, with mount :)
[08:59] <Thewarmachine> !command gcc -v
[08:59] <ubotu> Thewarmachine: What?
[08:59] <Thewarmachine> lol
[08:59] <Thewarmachine> ! gcc -v
[08:59] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Thewarmachine
[08:59] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Yeah, that's the problem..I don't know if there is a clean way to uninstall. You might just have to go through and delete the files/dirs.
[08:59] <Thewarmachine> lmao
[08:59] <darkheart> DukGalNamu You installed it from the binary file you downloaded from the sun site right?
[08:59] <poe-t> hi! how do I get mplayer in hoary?
[08:59] <Seveas> Thewarmachine, don't play with it..
[08:59] <Seveas> poe-t, enable multiverse
[08:59] <tesko> is it possible to install ubuntu using an iso image on a slave drive?
[08:59] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: right, i downloaded the .deb
[09:00] <RootX|Arphetic> Thewarmachine, my I ask when you will be grown up?
[09:00] <Seveas> sun provides no debs
[09:00] <gcut> anybody having problems with the ubuntu bittorrent download / tracker lately?
[09:00] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: why did it take so long to start having a problem though??
[09:00] <DanteAlighieri> Seveas: :P
[09:00] <RootX|Arphetic> may*
[09:00] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[09:00] <poe-t> Seveas, the repo looks broken unfortunately (dependancies)
[09:00] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Ohh..Okay, not the binary file then. You installed the deb? Let me figure out the commands...
[09:00] <Seveas> poe-t, don't use mplayer-custom
[09:00] <darkheart> DukGalNamu It worked fine before?
[09:00] <Ex-Cyber> when reloading package info Synaptic keeps giving me this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"; what can I do to fix this?
[09:00] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: yeah, now its doing this
[09:00] <RootX|Arphetic> Seveas, let me just say my opinion about him ONCE ok ?
[09:00] <Thewarmachine> mplayer -v
[09:00] <DanteAlighieri> Seveas: let me be more clear, the drives aren't in dev
[09:01] <Thewarmachine> mplayer -v:
[09:01] <Thewarmachine> MPlayer 1.0pre7-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
[09:01] <Thewarmachine> CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Xeon/Celeron Northwood (Family: 8, Stepping: 4)
[09:01] <Thewarmachine> Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
[09:01] <Thewarmachine> CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
[09:01] <Thewarmachine> Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2
[09:01] <RootX|Arphetic> thank you
[09:01] <DanteAlighieri> heh
[09:01] <RootX|Arphetic> he kept anoying me
[09:01] <darkheart> DukGalNamu I don't know...You must have changed something and it affected it somehow.
[09:02] <DukGalNamu> ...
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> !dev
[09:02] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, DanteAlighieri
[09:02] <poe-t> Seveas, Ive installed mplayer-nogui thru it but it plays nothing nut mpg ;-( (I put a lot of  codecs to /usr/share/mplayer or wherever mplayer debelopers say they should be)
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> !/dev
[09:02] <ubotu> DanteAlighieri: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> Dammit...
[09:02] <varius> hey guys.. i got a question.. i want to try out the ebuntu.. what i have to do: we have 1 server and 7 clients in our school, i'd like to mount the /home directory directly from the server with NFS, then the other problem is, i'd like to create user accounts at the server, so i don't have to do the same stuff at every pc, is that all possible with ebuntu? or is this maybe a wrong channel? i don't know =)
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> Ubuntu
[09:02] <Seveas> poe-t, use th w32codecs package from hoary extras
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> This is the right channel to ask in
[09:02] <mititelu> i have a problem, my modem isn't working, ubuntu won't find any port for my modem... i have a compaq data/fax modem ...
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> I am the wrong person to help you. ;)
[09:03] <Seveas> DanteAlighieri, make device nodes for your drives then
[09:03] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Do you still have that java .deb package lying around somewhere?
[09:03] <Seveas> look at dmesg to see which
[09:03] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: probably.. i forget to toss tuff out alot...
[09:03] <Seveas> darkheart, I have a few :)
[09:03] <DanteAlighieri> Seveas: Let's pretend I'm a newb... is there an online walkthrough available or a man I can use?
[09:03] <Seveas> DanteAlighieri, man mknod
[09:03] <DanteAlighieri> ty
[09:03] <Seveas> combined with the output of dmesg (look for scsi)
[09:03] <Seveas> and google :)
[09:04] <DanteAlighieri> Ah, google
[09:04] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: nope
[09:04] <iiiears> ubotu vnc is  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html http://ubuntuguide.org/#configureremotedesktop
[09:04] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[09:04] <IcemanV9> Thewarmachine: hmm, you have the latest version of mplayer. where did you get that? compile yourself?
[09:04] <gcut> Anybody here can give me any help with an Ubuntu bittorrent dowload?
[09:04] <iiiears> !remotedesktop
[09:04] <ubotu> iiiears: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:04] <darkheart> Seveas If you install a deb package w/ dpkg, how would you search for the name in the db so you could uninstall it?
[09:04] <VnR> hi again , the sudo sed command doesnt work , is their a way to remove ubuntu 4.10
[09:04] <pestilence> !firewall
[09:04] <ubotu> from memory, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[09:04] <mititelu> i have a problem, my modem isn't working, ubuntu won't find any port for my modem... i have a compaq data/fax modem ... should i get new drivers or what
[09:04] <Seveas> darkheart, dpkg -l
[09:05] <darkheart> Seveas Thanks.
[09:05] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Try 'dpkg -l|grep java' and see what appears.
[09:05] <marcin> hi #ubuntu
[09:05] <DanteAlighieri> hi marcin
[09:05] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: ii  classpath-tool 0.0.20020812-1 Free 'javah', 'javap', 'serialver' equivalen
[09:05] <DukGalNamu> ii  free-java-sdk  0.4-2          Complete Java SDK environment consisting of
[09:05] <iiiears> ubotu remotedesktop is http://ubuntuguide.org/#configureremotedesktop   See also !vnc
[09:05] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[09:06] <DukGalNamu> ii  java-common    0.22           Base of all Java packages
[09:06] <marcin> I got a question - are there any plans to develop some open source syncml server?
[09:06] <darkheart> DukGalNamu Do you do Java developing?
[09:06] <marcin> afaik there are syncml clients available - such as opensync and multisync
[09:06] <VnR> hi again , the sudo sed command doesnt work , is their a way to remove ubuntu 4.10
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: yeah
[09:07] <mititelu> how can i get a modem working?, it won't find any port on autodetect, tried all and none will work
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> darkheart: maybe it wasn't a deb....
[09:07] <darkheart> DukGalNamu That java-common entry is the same as I have, and I got mine from the Ubuntu repos.
[09:07] <marcin> and there are plans to integrate support for syncml in evo
[09:07] <marcin> but I cannot see anything about syncml server
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> damn
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> !damn
[09:07] <ubotu> DukGalNamu: Are you on ritalin?
[09:07] <darkheart> DukGalNamu I'm gonna ask Seveas.
[09:07] <mititelu> also, can i change the MAC
[09:07] <Seveas> that definitely was not a deb
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> cool
[09:07] <Seveas> and DukGalNamu stop playing with the bot
[09:08] <DukGalNamu> ...
[09:08] <DukGalNamu> my bot has a better response to !damn :P
[09:08] <darkheart> Seveas, DukGalNamu is having trouble with firefox crashing apparently on JavaScript stuff, it doesn't produce any errors though. Any thoughts?
[09:08] <fl> ping rrittenhouse
[09:08] <apokryphos> DukGalNamu: congrats
[09:08] <Seveas> javascript isn't java...
[09:09] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: right, but javascript crashes on every web page that sues it in some peticular way
[09:09] <mititelu> hello?, can i change my network card's mac in ubuntu?, also can i get a modem working if "autodetect port" doesn't work (i've also tried all ports and none would dial)
[09:09] <Seveas> javascript or java?
[09:10] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: like i can't log out of yahoo, i can't load the games.yahoo.com page, i can't access my suppliers webpage
[09:10] <apokryphos> That's java
[09:10] <pestilence> mititelu: yes, see "man ifconfig"
[09:10] <VnR> Is their a way to remove ubuntu 4.10
[09:10] <makkk> hi all, can someone help me initialize a startup script that will run when the computer is turned on? (I'm running xfce)
[09:10] <mititelu> thanks pestilence
[09:10] <n1xt3r> SYSTEM ppc Ubuntu (Debian) GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.11, LIBC 2.3.2, GNU Bash Shell | CPU NewWorld PowerBook4,3 750FX, 400MHz, 512K unified Cache, 793 BMIPs | MEM 87/628MB RAM Used, 0/511MB Swap Used | STORAGE 1.0GB ReiserFS, 5.0MB TmpFS, 9.5GB ReiserFS, 10GB ReiserFS, 315MB TmpFS, 447MB Ext3, 447MB Unknown | STATS Uptime 0.08d, Users 1(6), Procs 73(6415), Load 0.11 | X11 1024x768x24bit | http://auk.ca/v
[09:11] <Seveas> n1xt3r, don't do that
[09:11] <DukGalNamu> apokryphos: no, because if i disable java, it still cannot load
[09:11] <poe-t> Seveas, thanks its got better with w32codecs. But it is strange I only get sound with -ao esd ;-)
[09:11] <Seveas> poe-t, set that in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf :)
[09:11] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: any clue?
[09:12] <pestilence> DukGalNamu: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-bork
[09:12] <poe-t> Seveas, yea.. thanks a lot
[09:12] <poe-t> lo/lot
[09:12] <apokryphos> DukGalNamu: yahoo games uses java. The page doesn't load at all, or the java doesn't load?
[09:12] <fizzle> hey. i have a question. im using wireless g usb adapter. just bought it the other day and was wondering if ubuntu will work with it?
[09:13] <DukGalNamu> apokryphos: it doesn't load at all
[09:13] <RootX|Arphetic> Is there a way to like... remove all the things a linux installation did?
[09:13] <Seveas> DukGalNamu remove all java debs with aptitude purge
[09:13] <apokryphos> DukGalNamu: problem with a recent firefox update or always prevalent? And, does java work in other browsers?
[09:14] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic, yes, you can remove all partitions with a partition manager and restore the bootloader
[09:14] <DukGalNamu> javascript does not work in other browsers
[09:14] <Seveas> javascript isn't java...
[09:14] <VnR> ubotu , Is their a way to remove ubuntu 4.10
[09:14] <ubotu> VnR: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:14] <nickrud> makkk, you can write a script, drop it in /etc/init.d, and then sudo update-rc.d defaults 99 <scriptname>
[09:14] <Seveas> VnR, ubotu is a bot
[09:14] <VnR> ok
[09:14] <VnR> thx
[09:14] <redguy> and a liar
[09:14] <VnR> Is their a way to remove ubuntu 4.10
[09:15] <Seveas> sure
[09:15] <Seveas> what do you want instead?
[09:15] <apokryphos> VnR: as I said before, just upgrade.
[09:15] <DukGalNamu> WHOA!!!!
[09:15] <RootX|Arphetic> seveas ??
[09:15] <fizzle> anyone know if my wireless g usb adapter will work on ubuntu/
[09:15] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: maybe it wasn't java
[09:15] <makkk> nickrud, is there an easy example of a script i could look at. I've never done it
[09:15] <RootX|Arphetic> partition manager?
[09:15] <RootX|Arphetic> disk druid?
[09:15] <VnR> i tried the sudo sed command but that dindnt do anything
[09:15] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: per se, like not its fault that it was screwing up
[09:15] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic, like parted or partition magic
[09:15] <poe-t> RootX|Arphetic, cfdisk | fdisk
[09:16] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: i did what pestilence just told me and i can access the pages now...
[09:16] <RootX|Arphetic> err?
[09:16] <Seveas> VnR, edit your sources.list, make all warty entries point to hoary instead and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:16] <RootX|Arphetic> cfdisk i can try
[09:16] <pestilence> DukGalNamu: :-D
[09:16] <RootX|Arphetic> is that able to make on a bootable disket
[09:16] <fl> makkk, have a look at the scripts that live in /etc/init.d/
[09:16] <makkk> fl, thanks
[09:16] <Seveas> RootX|Arphetic, try a debian boot floppy
[09:16] <DukGalNamu> although, i still can't access games.yahoo.com
[09:16] <fl> makkk, the pick one, and copy it to a new name
[09:17] <VnR> seveas , im downloading the new iso , can i just update/overwrite it , i think for me its lots easier
[09:17] <pestilence> DukGalNamu: for that, you need java.
[09:17] <poe-t> RootX|Arphetic, umm... you can toggle "bootable" flag w/cfdisk
[09:17] <fl> ignore the lines where is says "chkconfig" and so on
[09:17] <DukGalNamu> pestilence: i have java :P
[09:17] <Seveas> VnR, if you just listen to our advise it'll be even easier
[09:17] <pestilence> DukGalNamu: was it installed system-wide, or on a per-user basis?
[09:17] <nickrud> makkk, /etc/init.d/sudo is a pretty simple example
[09:17] <fizzle> er ive installed ubuntu on my other box but when i start it i get a black screen.. anyone know why?
[09:17] <Seveas> VnR, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin
[09:17] <pestilence> DukGalNamu: and which java runtime did you install?
[09:18] <VnR> seveas , this is what i typed , sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -l /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <RootX|Arphetic> ?
[09:18] <DukGalNamu> pestilence: dang, well at least i can access my suplier now, i still crash when logging out of yahoo
[09:18] <RootX|Arphetic> Guys poe-t and Seveas .. ur talking like... klingon to me rofl
[09:18] <makkk> nickrud, looking at it, thanks
[09:18] <fl> makkk, have a look at the functions in there: that's where the work is usually done. Write a function to do what you want. Then have a look at the "case $1" statement: here you call your worker function
[09:18] <iiiears> fizzle - did the live cd work okay on that machine
[09:18] <DukGalNamu> pestilence: i believe wither 1.2 or 1.4
[09:19] <fizzle> iiiears; dunno didnt try. i only had 1 blank cd
[09:19] <eliUbuntu> anyone know how to find a processing program that is using up all your cpu power?
[09:19] <DukGalNamu> java-sablevm????
[09:19] <DukGalNamu> wtf
[09:19] <makkk> fl, all I want to do is start a ddclient deamon
[09:20] <Seveas> VnR, ehm
[09:20] <Seveas> it's an i
[09:20] <Seveas> not an l
[09:20] <din> how do i keep a user from being able to su in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Seveas> sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <din> can't find the wheel group
[09:20] <iiiears> fizzle - just wondering if you could copy a working conf file. before trying sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    - (that command and it's options can be tiring easier to copy a working file.)
[09:20] <Rydekull> din: dont give them the root-password
[09:21] <din> ...
[09:21] <VnR> seveas ok , thx i will try that
[09:21] <fl> makkk, have a look at /lib/lsb/init-functions
[09:21] <din> Rydekull: that's not what i asked heh
[09:21] <fl> makkk, you could use start_daemon() to start it
[09:21] <FR500> where can i find debs for gaim 1.5?
[09:21] <Rydekull> din: well, you said 'su' :) hit su, that is for root :)
[09:21] <fizzle> iiiears; the problem is that when grub starts and i select ubuntu it gives me a black screen. but when i choose the recovery mode it starts everything up then it just goes to a black screen
[09:21] <din> Rydekull: on most distros if you remove the user from the wheel group they are not allowed to su
[09:22] <makkk> fl, looks like it might be installed already. I tried to open a name for it under /etc/init.d, but looks like one is already there. I'll have a look at it. Thanks for the help
[09:22] <iiiears> fizzle - no helpful error messages
[09:22] <Rydekull> din: not on most, but on some in my view :)
[09:22] <gimbal> microsoft likes people to believe that software does anything of its own accord, removed from the people using it - looking at an MSFT dot-croak advert at freshmeat.net
[09:22] <fizzle> iiiears; no errors.
[09:22] <Seveas> din, ubuntu simply doesn't use a root password
[09:22] <din> Rydekull: well not on ubuntu apparently, lol
[09:22] <iiiears> ouch - left to guess
[09:22] <fizzle> iiiears; it starts everything up like hotplug etc etc and its got the OK beside it then it goes black
[09:22] <Rydekull> din: :)
[09:23] <din> Seveas: so how do i keep a user from su-ing
[09:23] <fizzle> does ubuntu; automatically start the X server?
[09:23] <Seveas> din, by not setting a root password...
[09:23] <tolstoy> anyone else have probs booting the latest breezy kernel via scsi drives?
[09:23] <din> and i also want to lock them into their  home dir
[09:23] <fizzle> mm brb
[09:23] <din> that's the only solution?
[09:23] <Seveas> 'lock them in homedir'?
[09:23] <din> bah
[09:23] <apokryphos> din: unless you make other changes, they are.
[09:23] <iiiears> okay - a little more info. - beginning to sound like a xserver (gui manager) prblem again. - what kind of display  lcd or crt
[09:23] <Seveas> chroot+lots of hard links should do that
[09:24] <Seveas> but it's awkward
[09:24] <Seveas> why would you want that?
[09:24] <makkk> fl, i'm going to restart and see if maybe its already just going to work. otherwise, I'll look at what you said. thanks again
[09:24] <din> nm
[09:24] <iiiears> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might fix it
[09:25] <iiiears> !display
[09:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[09:25] <fl> makkk, why restart :-)
[09:25] <gimbal> so, like I'm coming to notice that, HP rocks the linux printing environment
[09:25] <fl> try to run the script without parameters
[09:25] <fl> it should tell you the available options
[09:25] <floppyears> hi
[09:26] <gimbal> imo; they're putting a lot of work into linux printing (for HP printers, 'course)  http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/
[09:26] <fl> then do e.g. a "start" as option
[09:26] <floppyears> I'm trying to use several admin gui tools in gnome and kde, but they usually ask for the administrator's password
[09:26] <gimbal> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=hplip&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all also heh
[09:26] <iiiears> brb - my keyboard has dropped a few important characters. - newbie experimentation strikes again. - lol
[09:26] <floppyears> I don't have a root password, I got rid of it. Now I use sudo instead.
[09:26] <Seveas> floppyears, all these tools should use sudo and your own password :)
[09:27] <pekand> msg /zsb h
[09:29] <fl> anyone knows where rrittenhouse went?
[09:30] <iveqy> hello, I need some help top modify my console ubuntu... I what to change the font and the "style" (don't sure about the name) eg. UTF-8 or ISO-xxx-10
[09:30] <Exo0dus> #ubuntu-es
[09:31] <Derkommissar> i think ununtu autogenerates the x config everytine it starts X
[09:31] <Derkommissar> is there a way to disable that?
[09:31] <mjr> Derkommissar, it doesn't
[09:31] <michele> it doesn't
[09:31] <Seveas> Derkommissar, Ubuntu does not do that
[09:31] <Derkommissar> i make changes to xorg.conf
[09:32] <Derkommissar> and when i start ubuntu everything its back to how it was
[09:32] <^thehatsrule^> did you save it?
[09:32] <mjr> did you check that you've actually successfully saved it at all?
[09:32] <FR500> hi, i get gpg errors when running apt-get update, what can i do to fix?
[09:32] <Seveas> ...and in /etc/X11
[09:32] <fl> is there a Wiki to document breezy things?
[09:32] <Derkommissar> done it like a bunch of times
[09:32] <Derkommissar> yes
[09:32] <Seveas> FR500, paste the error on the pastebin please
[09:32] <floppyears> hi
[09:33] <Seveas> fl, what kind of things?
[09:33] <floppyears> how can I make it so that gnome and my machine uses utf8 as its locale
[09:33] <Seveas> floppyears, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:33] <FR500> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/339290
[09:33] <mjr> floppyears, what seve said, but if you've installed hoary and not changed the locales, you should have it by default
[09:33] <michele> floppyears, you select it in the login screen, but that should be the default
[09:34] <Seveas> FR500, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[09:34] <FR500> Seveas: k, thanks
[09:34] <fl> Seveas, like, I found the Wiki page for PowerPC install, dating back to Warty I guess. Note says "needs to updated for Hoary". But then, that's the "current" live documentation, and it's probably not nice to put in there things from the next release.
[09:35] <Seveas> fl, you can put breezy specific notes there, just say "For breezy: ....."
[09:35] <bjw> apokryphos, is there a way to use
[09:35] <bjw> grrr
[09:35] <bjw> apokryphos, is there a way to use media keys
[09:35] <bjw> the ones on my keyboard
[09:35] <rob^> xbindkeys
[09:35] <apokryphos> bjw: there should be. Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[09:35] <fl> Seveas, ok. So the Wiki is the canonical doc source, with no branches?
[09:36] <bjw> yeah but it doesn't recognize my media keys
[09:36] <Seveas> fl, yup
[09:36] <rob^> fl, the wiki isn't our only documentation
[09:37] <Seveas> the docteam provides official documentation per release
[09:37] <rob^> fl, we keep our latest stuff in subversion
[09:37] <pestilence> bjw: try using xev to identify the key
[09:37] <bjw> nm it recognize it now =)
[09:37] <Seveas> the wiki is the user-contributed area where the docteam takes things from
[09:37] <IcemanV9> just curious - what database you can use with mergeant?? mysql? oracle? ??
[09:37] <bjw> weird
[09:37] <apokryphos> bjw: if X recognises the keys, then that should, or (at least) KHotKeys should -- that app has been a little shaky in Hoary, though, unfortunately.
[09:37] <bjw> it wouldn't do it when i ran another X session
[09:38] <fl> rob^, mind pasting a repo link?
[09:38] <floppyears> thanks
[09:38] <rob^> fl: http://www.linuxhd.com/ubuntufaq/faqi386/C/index.html
[09:39] <michele> this is weird... the num lock led isn't working when in X....
[09:39] <rob^> thats the latest build of the FAQ Guide
[09:39] <apokryphos> bjw: if X doesn't recognise them, then there's nothing that kde can do; if it does, then khotkeys at the very least, will.
[09:39] <keke> i made changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst so that WindowsXP is my first bootable choice. how do i apply these changes?
[09:39] <rob^> fl, if you want the actual subversion repo, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamRepository
[09:39] <^thehatsrule^> keke: thats it, just save it, grub boot stage 2 will find it
[09:39] <keke> so reboot?
[09:40] <apokryphos> bjw: gotta dash now; you might ask other kde-related Qs in #kubuntu if you're still having problems
[09:40] <apokryphos> adieu
[09:40] <keke> All I did was chansge the order of OS's listed is that proper?
[09:40] <keke> way to edit the config file
[09:40] <bjw> k
[09:40] <keke> alright ill try it hopefully i dint break anything
[09:40] <zerboxx> what is the terminal command to lock the screen?
[09:41] <concept10> how may I solve this problem:  cpufrequtils depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1); however:
[09:41] <concept10>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.
[09:41] <Spudchat> so i got the linksys WUSB54GP wireless usb adapter to run with linuxant
[09:41] <Spudchat> but i cant connect to the network...i see its mac address but it cant do anything
[09:41] <Spudchat> any ideas?
[09:42] <fl> rob^, thanks for the second link :-)
[09:42] <rob^> np
[09:42] <floppyears> hi
[09:42] <rob^> its pretty much decided that the FAQ Guide will be our main documentation for breezy
[09:43] <rob^> available locally via yelp
[09:43] <iveqy> hello, I need some help top modify my console ubuntu... I what to change the font and the "style" (don't sure about the name) eg. UTF-8 or ISO-xxx-10.
[09:43] <floppyears> does ubuntu have any guides or how to's in how to running server type things?
[09:43] <kenny> hi guys, is there any mysql experts here
[09:43] <rob^> floppyears, it will with breezy
[09:43] <rob^> floppyears, for now see the wiki
[09:43] <pestilence> iveqy: try dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:44] <zerboxx> what is the terminal command to lock the screen?
[09:44] <iveqy> pestilence thx, is that a text mode command?
[09:44] <concept10> where is the best place to find the status of breezy, I want to get some packages from breezy that are not working in hoary
[09:44] <kenny> i cant get mysql server to start, any help
[09:44] <floppyears> rob^: thank
[09:44] <rob^> concept10, see packages.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <Kyral> God I love Ubuntu
[09:44] <pestilence> iveqy: yup
[09:45] <pestilence> zerboxx: xscreensaver-command -lock ?
[09:45] <concept10> I have the packages, they just do not work, i need to upgrade to breezy
[09:45] <floppyears> kenny: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[09:45] <zerboxx> pestilence: thanks!
[09:45] <xliu> hi ,everyone, why can not I input Chinese in KDE. my SCIM input method works well in Gnome.
[09:45] <c0rrupt_> !chinese
[09:45] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:45] <pestilence> !chinese
[09:45] <terminal|giga> because gnome > kde
[09:45] <c0rrupt_> LOL
[09:45] <terminal|giga> =)
[09:45] <kenny> i have tried that floppy ears but i get this error ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/ mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> !fonts
[09:46] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:46] <pestilence> how come he didn't answer me? :'(
[09:46] <LathropWells> !scim
[09:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[09:46] <rob^> concept10, are you sure older versions are not available in hoary
[09:46] <LathropWells> hehe
[09:46] <rob^> !backports
[09:46] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> xD
[09:46] <concept10> Yes.
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> http://www.big-boys.com/articles/prankcall7.html
[09:46] <pestilence> not only that, i *told* ubotu about chinese.
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> lmfao
[09:46] <rob^> dam it doesn't list the official ones
[09:46] <concept10> !info cpufrequtils
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> *told*
[09:46] <EBowles> is there a way I can reinstall ubuntu without it getting rid of the stuff in my users directory?
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> !tell c0rrupt_ about ubuntu
[09:47] <pestilence> !smack
[09:47] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, pestilence
[09:47] <rob^> EBowles, the easiest way is to have a seperate /home partition
[09:47] <EasterSunshine> by backing up the things in your usr directory?
[09:47] <concept10> cpufrequtils is only in breezy
[09:47] <xliu> no, I mean ,i have both gnome and kde installed. my SCIM works well in gnome,but it does not in kde
[09:47] <thespiritoftal> how can i install kde to ubuntu?
[09:47] <thespiritoftal> can i install it with apt-get?
[09:48] <DukGalNamu> pestilence: that took a LONG time to respond!!!
[09:48] <ronin_> hi all
[09:48] <EBowles> or maybe ya'll know how to fix this, when I boot, and it says "uncompressing linux" I get a "crc error
[09:48] <EBowles> "
[09:48] <floppyears> thespiritoftal: probably yes
[09:48] <mjr> thespiritoftal, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <pestilence> DukGalNamu: ?
[09:48] <EasterSunshine> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <concept10> Anyone know where to get good info about updating to breezy?
[09:48] <michele> concept10, in the topic
[09:49] <concept10> michele, I dont care about that, that is for new users, im looking for info
[09:49] <n45800> Can someone help me with configuring LDAP login settings?
[09:49] <n45800> I have it almost working
[09:49] <n45800> (users show up in getent passwd)
[09:50] <EBowles> or maybe ya'll know how to fix this, when I boot, and it says "uncompressing linux" I get a "crc error"
[09:50] <kenny> can anyone help me with my problem please
[09:50] <n45800> but whenever I try to login it says incorret username or pass
[09:50] <c0rrupt_> kenny have a bone
[09:50] <Seveas> EBowles, eeek
[09:50] <mjr> EBowles, the kernel file has been corrupted
[09:50] <Seveas> sounds like you  need to reinstall the kernel
[09:50] <mjr> EBowles, I'd be suspicious of your hardware
[09:50] <c0rrupt_> eekz0r
[09:50] <Seveas> and that too..
[09:50] <mjr> but yeah, a kernel reinstall may fix it. for now.
[09:50] <kenny> corrupt?
[09:50] <EBowles> :/
[09:51] <c0rrupt_> hello
[09:51] <kenny> what does that mean
[09:51] <c0rrupt_> use chocolate
[09:51] <ronin_> i've got just a little question... if i install linux as second os and if i ever want to uninstall it ... does grub still rest on the master boot record
[09:51] <rob^> concept10, if you don't know how to do it by yourself then you probably shouldn't
[09:51] <EBowles> how can I reinstall the kernel? Just reinstall ubuntu?
[09:51] <n45800> you can install a new one with apt
[09:51] <n45800> let me get the package name
[09:51] <EBowles> I can't boot though
[09:51] <n45800> :/
[09:51] <pestilence> EBowles: use a rescue cd
[09:51] <concept10> You dont understand my question, I know how to upgrade.  I was looking for the status of the breezy
[09:52] <crashd> ronin_: yes, but in xp you can use the recovery console to fix the mbr to use the windows bootloader
[09:52] <ronin_> @ebowles: do you have a notebook?
[09:52] <c0rrupt_> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:52] <crashd> same goes for any other bootloader really
[09:52] <EBowles> no
[09:52] <EBowles> but I have this desktop right next to it
[09:52] <n45800> does anyone here have experience with LDAP login? :/
[09:53] <n45800> i need to get this working
[09:53] <n45800> or else we have to install XP only :/
[09:53] <ronin_> @crashd: how does that go? is it right just to run windows as normal and then change to dos-mode and (i believe) type in "fixmbr -parameters"?
[09:53] <michele> concept10, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals
[09:53] <concept10> I'm pissed because I finally get something working and the package I need to install is only in breezy, but it is also available in all Debian releases.  None of the packages work because of libc6 dependencies
[09:53] <zerboxx> In ubuntu, when you do "find" what is the command for that?
[09:53] <c0rrupt_> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1338 please
[09:53] <Derkommissar> ubuntu is running an auto config everytime it starts X
[09:53] <Derkommissar> xf86AutoConfig: Primary PCI is 1:5:0
[09:53] <Derkommissar> Running "/usr/X11R6/bin/getconfig -X 60802000 -I /etc/X11,/usr/X11R6/etc/X11,/us r/X11R6/lib/modules,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/getconfig -v 0x1002 -d 0x5835 -r 0x00 -s 0x1179 -b 0xff02 -c 0x0300"
[09:53] <pestilence> zerboxx: for finding files
[09:54] <zerboxx> pestilence: yup
[09:54] <pestilence> zerboxx: or anything else.
[09:54] <zerboxx> pestilence: files
[09:54] <xliu> today I installed KDE,(I already have Gnome) but it is strange that  the input method SCIM which works well in gnome does not work in KDE, I can not trigger it when inputing. any suggestions everyone?
[09:54] <pestilence> the command is....drumroll....find  :-D
[09:54] <c0rrupt_> Seveas, is the syntax wrong or does my driver not support monitor
[09:54] <zerboxx> but that just spits a lot of stuff out at the console
[09:54] <pestilence> zerboxx: didn't understand your question.   but you could also try "locate"
[09:54] <pestilence> zerboxx: find -name "myfile"
[09:54] <c0rrupt_> plix
[09:55] <zerboxx> pestilence: is there a command for the gui though?
[09:55] <pestilence> zerboxx: no clue.
[09:55] <c0rrupt_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1338
[09:55] <n45800> go to Places -> search for files
[09:55] <zerboxx> pestilence: (trying to setup a media keyboard and I'm not using gnome, so that's why)
[09:55] <n45800> in gnome
[09:55] <zerboxx> n45800: :) and the terminal command for that would be?
[09:55] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, try monitor
[09:55] <Seveas> and not all cards support it
[09:56] <Ex-Cyber> my dialup connection seems to stall a lot on hoary; connections will stop transferring for a while and then dump a bunch of data all at once... is there a setting somewhere that would affect this or should I just go yell at my ISP? ;)
[09:56] <n45800> let me check syntax
[09:56] <n45800> bet either find or locate
[09:56] <pestilence> zerboxx: i'm confused.  you want a command line app or a gui?
[09:56] <c0rrupt_> Seveas, same error
[09:56] <n45800> he wants a command line app
[09:57] <n45800> that does the same thing as Search For Files in GUI
[09:57] <zerboxx> pestilence: I want the gui, but the command to run the gui :D
[09:57] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, then your driver does not support it
[09:57] <n45800> ?
[09:57] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[09:57] <n45800> startx?
[09:57] <c0rrupt_> that sucks
[09:57] <michele> zerboxx, the command is gnome-search-tool
[09:57] <pestilence> zerboxx: just use find/locate :)
[09:57] <zerboxx> michele: Thank you!!
[09:57] <c0rrupt_> i got debowned
[09:58] <michele> zerboxx, but you should be able to configure your keys in preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[09:58] <michele> zerboxx, and there you don't need to know the executable name
[09:58] <zerboxx> michele: I'm not in gnome though :) I'm running fvwm and I'm setting up hotkeys
[09:58] <michele> oh ok
[09:58] <zerboxx> michele: That's why it seems like I'm making it more confusing than I need to
[09:59] <n45800> Does anyone know about settung up LDAP login?
[09:59] <H3PO> is there a way to activate the framebuffer in ubuntu-breezy?
[09:59] <fl> hmm, the missing X symlink in /usr/bin/X11 in breezy is probably old, old news?
[09:59] <LathropWells> !keybinding 0r dpkg-reconfigure locales  (nice tip thx seveas)
[09:59] <ubotu> LathropWells: Are you on ritalin?
[09:59] <ronin_> @all: bye
[09:59] <LathropWells> !keybinding
[09:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, keybinding is console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[10:00] <LathropWells> !alias
[10:00] <ubotu> LathropWells: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:00] <surfdue> heyhey
[10:00] <c0rrupt_> !help
[10:00] <Razor-X> ubotu: TCP
[10:00] <ubotu> Razor-X: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:00] <Razor-X> errr
[10:00] <Razor-X> ubotu: TCP
[10:00] <Razor-X> ahhhh
[10:01] <Razor-X> I was hoping he'ld say ``Do they come in packets of five?''
[10:01] <Razor-X> :)
[10:01] <surfdue> how do install kernal source for 2.6.10-5 ?
[10:01] <LathropWells> lol
[10:01] <surfdue> I cant seem to find the apt-get package
[10:01] <pestilence> surfdue: apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[10:01] <LathropWells> http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/index.htm - nice info on tcp and everything else WWW
[10:02] <Loiosh> apt-get source kernel works as well
[10:02] <surfdue> apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[10:02] <surfdue> E: Unable to find a source package for kernal
[10:02] <fabbione> Loiosh: no it doesn't
[10:02] <lee> is it just me, or does middle clicking on a tab in firefox close the tab?
[10:02] <fooblubb> Hi, I'm desperately trying to install ubuntu but my setup seems sub-ideal :-S
[10:02] <fabbione> there is no package called kernel
[10:02] <fooblubb> I
[10:03] <pestilence> surfdue: kernal??
[10:03] <Loiosh> I meant version =)
[10:03] <surfdue> 2.6.10-5
[10:03] <ubuntu> \join unamenshipu
[10:03] <fl> ahh, the jpys of FVWM :-)
[10:03] <n45800> lee: yes it does
[10:03] <fooblubb> I've got a DVD containing 4.05 but I can't use that directly because of my CD-only-drive.
[10:04] <pestilence> surfdue: sorry.  linux-source-2.6.10
[10:04] <surfdue> ok i did a major upgrade to kernal 2.6.10-5
[10:04] <surfdue> but when i do uname-r it dosnt think i have 2.6.10-5
[10:04] <pestilence> surfdue: they leave off the minor versions i guess.
[10:04] <surfdue> it thinks i have 2.6.8
[10:04] <n45800> hmm
[10:04] <surfdue> how do i fix this
[10:04] <fooblubb> now I tried to make the ubuntu files into an ISO on my harddrive and with the hd-... initrd it even finds my iso
[10:04] <pestilence> surfdue: if all you want is the headers, it's linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:04] <n45800> did you restart in the new kernel?
[10:04] <Seveas> surfdue, are you on warty?
[10:04] <surfdue> corerct
[10:05] <Seveas> then it's ok :)
[10:05] <fooblubb> but then It goes weard because there's the wrong modules in the ISO
[10:05] <Seveas> warty has 2.6.8
[10:05] <Ex-Cyber> lee: it's not just you
[10:05] <surfdue> it does?
[10:05] <Seveas> yup
[10:05] <surfdue> no i have the laterst kernal
[10:05] <lee> ok, good =)
[10:05] <surfdue> i did kernal upgrade
[10:05] <surfdue> wait
[10:05] <surfdue> i have hory
[10:05] <lee> I'm not even going to hazard a guess as to why
[10:05] <surfdue> i think
[10:05] <surfdue> hoary
[10:05] <surfdue> yea
[10:05] <surfdue> i have hoary
[10:06] <surfdue> i did a distupgrade etc to hoary
[10:06] <surfdue> it upgraded klernal
[10:06] <n45800> If anyone can help, I am at a school where they have LDAP Logins, they want to install Linux, but we cannot get LDAP working fully
[10:06] <surfdue> it just uname -r wont show it
[10:06] <Loiosh> Ahh, there we are
[10:06] <Seveas> surfdue, then install linux-686 (or linux-k7 if you have amd)
[10:06] <n45800> it finds the users
[10:06] <Loiosh> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 ?
[10:06] <n45800> but cannot login
[10:06] <ubuntu> \join #unamenshipu
[10:06] <surfdue> how do i fix uname
[10:06] <n45800> if not fixed by fri, no dual boot :/
[10:06] <surfdue> its just an id problem
[10:06] <Seveas> ubuntu, please stop spamming....
[10:07] <surfdue> ok im doing what u said, install linux-686
[10:08] <surfdue> nice
[10:09] <guillem> I have a problem, I need set acpi=noirq at kernel boot options. How to?
[10:09] <surfdue> still didnt fix
[10:09] <surfdue> uname -r still shows 2.6.8
[10:09] <Seveas> guillem, add that parameter to the #kopt line
[10:10] <pestilence> guillem: edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:10] <Seveas> surfdue, reboot and choose the correct kernel
[10:10] <n45800> surfdue: did you restart in the new kernel?
[10:10] <Adkron> I'm using kubuntu, but wanted to see if anyone here is having this problem
[10:10] <surfdue> no
[10:10] <surfdue> how do i
[10:10] <surfdue> how do i choose the right kernal?
[10:10] <pestilence> sorry, menu.lst
[10:10] <n45800> surfdue: restart computer, choose new kernel in list
[10:10] <Adkron> When I use the config manager and have to put in a password for admin mode it never goes into admin
[10:11] <jorgp2> how easy is the migration from hoary to breezy?
[10:11] <surfdue> brb
[10:11] <LokeDK> How do I emulate a .adf file? (Amiga Disk Format)
[10:11] <Adkron> If I put in the wrong password it tells me, but if I put in the right one it never allows me to do things such as change the time or add users
[10:11] <mjr> jorgp2, it will be easy. It's probably not easy now, as breezy is liable to be broken.
[10:11] <guillem> ok, thank you
[10:11] <Doonz> so say i have like a gig of pc2100 ram sitting around coudl i throw it in my box with pc3200 ram?
[10:13] <n45800> Again, can anyone help with LDAP?
[10:13] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar con postgresql?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[10:14] <michele> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:14] <ilpum> how do i format a USB stick?
[10:14] <michele> ilpum, as with other devices: mkfs
[10:15] <n45800> I followed the instructions here   http://craige.mcwhirter.com.au/blog/archive/2005/01/17/making_a_debian_or_ubuntu_mach
[10:15] <n45800> and the users are found
[10:15] <n45800> but they cannot login
[10:15] <killahkosha> Where can I get the Ubuntu 5.10 iso?
[10:15] <killahkosha> the cdimage.ubuntu.com is down
[10:16] <kezz> killahkosha, does linuxiso.org have one for you?
[10:16] <kezz> also try distrowatch.org
[10:16] <Seveas> releses.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <Seveas> releases.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <ilpum> @michele does this also work with mp3 players?
[10:16] <Seveas> and cdimage.u.c works fine too
[10:17] <ipstacks> I am trying to setup Ubuntu in server mode and access it via VNC.  I installed tight vnc server but I can't get to it remotely
[10:18] <michele> ilpum, probably, if your device uses fat and doesn't need some special file or dir structure (the shuffle does require them, for example)
[10:18] <ipstacks> Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[10:18] <killahkosha> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com says me the address cannot be found
[10:18] <LathropWells> ubotu alias is Create your own shorter timesaving console commands. http://ubuntuguide.org/ http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_05.html http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Alias
[10:18] <ubotu> LathropWells: okay
[10:18] <killahkosha> and releases.ubuntu.com doesn't have any 5.10 stuff
[10:18] <ilpum> can you please give me an example of the command? ^.^'
[10:18] <michele> ipstacks, tried with prefernces -> remote desktop
[10:19] <ipstacks> michele: what are you saying? I don't have the GUI installed.
[10:19] <kezz> killahkosha, get the 5.04 iso then update
[10:19] <GrayMagiker> Hey, is there a linux anti virus that works well with ubuntu?
[10:20] <SolitaryCritic> the real question here is, is it possible to change your online time with gaim
[10:20] <echylo_> GrayMagiker, yes but why scanning ubuntu? ;)
[10:20] <LathropWells> clam or f-prot are very nice the are others
[10:20] <worthawholebean> Hi. I'm having problems installing Ubuntu on my Mac. Yaboot won't install.
[10:20] <n45800> GrayMagiker: GrayMagiker
[10:20] <n45800> gah
[10:20] <LathropWells> clamav
[10:20] <echylo_> yes that one
[10:20] <echylo_> I was looking for it
[10:20] <hess_> can some please tell me ,what do I have to install to have the 'import' command ?
[10:20] <n45800> GrayMagiker: http://ubuntuguide.org/#antivirusserver
[10:20] <echylo_> I used it to scan a windows HD
[10:20] <GrayMagiker> echylo_ why not?
[10:20] <killahkosha> kezz: i alreay tried doing that, didn't work
[10:20] <echylo_> cause it is not really necessary
[10:21] <killahkosha> kezz: broke the system
[10:21] <LinuxJones> ipstacks, I don;t knwo about that app but usually any servers only listen on localhost for security reasons. You may have to modify your apps config settings to allow outside networks to connect.
[10:21] <Seveas> hess_, 'import' command?
[10:21] <hess_> yeah
[10:21] <worthawholebean> hess_: Is that Objective-C?
[10:21] <GrayMagiker> better safe than sorry
[10:21] <hess_> you know
[10:21] <Seveas> no
[10:21] <kezz> killahkosha, how do you mean, what did you do?
[10:21] <hess_> import -window root shoot.jpg
[10:21] <worthawholebean> Meaning #import?
[10:21] <ipstacks> linuxjones: thanks
[10:21] <GrayMagiker> Thanks guys for your help, I should have looked there first
[10:21] <hess_> ??
[10:21] <LinuxJones> ipstacks, GL
[10:21] <worthawholebean> I guess not.
[10:21] <killahkosha> kezz: well i changed my sources for apt-get to the 5.10 sources, and then typed apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <Seveas> hess_, there is no such command, be a bit more specific...
[10:22] <n45800> GrayMagiker: np :P
[10:22] <oxez> how can I set my system's default charset to ISO-8859-1?
[10:22] <hess_> ok,I'll give you the man
[10:22] <mjr> hmh, was there a way to detect the presence of multiple CPUs on a single-CPU kernel?
[10:22] <killahkosha> kezz: then I got this weird error about libgl1_dri I think it was
[10:22] <worthawholebean> hess_: Never mind.
[10:22] <kezz> killahkosha, is 5.10 breezy? or updated hoary?
[10:22] <michele> hess_, image magik
[10:22] <Seveas> oxez, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:22] <hess_> you'll see that there is
[10:22] <SolitaryCritic> how can I change my onlime time on gaim? Can I just access the document where the settings and stuff are stored and then just change the number
[10:22] <killahkosha> kezz: breezy
[10:22] <LathropWells> amazing how well it works. - the same functionality in windows is always called an enterprise or server version and costs hundreds - the marvels of open source apps. :)
[10:22] <kezz> killahkosha, you shouldn't be using breezy really
[10:22] <hess_> Seveas: Seveas
[10:22] <Seveas> hess_, what does it do?
[10:22] <killahkosha> kezz: well it has my printer driver, unlike hoary
[10:22] <hess_> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_import.htm
[10:22] <kezz> killahkosha, it goes stable pretty soon
[10:22] <michele> hess_, import is in image magick
[10:23] <kezz> killahkosha, but isn't released yet
[10:23] <killahkosha> kezz: when?
[10:23] <senile_implant> kezz, like 2 months
[10:23] <hess_> you can shot you screen etc.
[10:23] <hess_> tnx michele
[10:23] <Seveas> that..
[10:23] <senile_implant> 2 months isn't exactly that soon
[10:23] <killahkosha> kezz: I know it releases in October, but when does it go stable before that?
[10:23] <Seveas> imagemagick indeed
[10:23] <SolitaryCritic> or is the online time kept on the aim server?
[10:23] <senile_implant> killahkosha, you can't just download the driver for hoary?
[10:23] <kezz> killahkosha, no you should probably wait for official release in oct
[10:23] <kezz> killahkosha, have you tried compiling the driver in by hand?
[10:23] <worthawholebean> Anyway, my Yaboot won't install. I'm using a Mac with  one partition and three gigs of free space. I then have Ubuntu partition the free space for me, but Yaboot won't install. It sasy that it can't be installed into /target
[10:23] <michele> hess_, from that page "For a more detailed description of each option, see ImageMagick(1)."
[10:24] <SolitaryCritic> how can I change my onlime time on gaim? Can I just access the document where the settings and stuff are stored and then just change the number, or is it stored on the aim server
[10:24] <hess_> lol
[10:24] <LathropWells> ubotu are you an amnesiac?
[10:24] <ubotu> No idea, LathropWells
[10:24] <hess_> didn't see that,sorry ;>
[10:24] <LathropWells> !yaboot
[10:24] <ubotu> LathropWells: I give up, what is it?
[10:24] <rathel> My IPOD auto-mounts fine under Gnome but, It doesn't under fluxbox, how do I fix htis?
[10:24] <LathropWells> doh!
[10:25] <senile_implant> SolitaryCritic, you probably need a plugin to do this. i think there's one called idle maker or something
[10:25] <SolitaryCritic> but thats for idol time
[10:25] <killahkosha> kezz: Yes, I had tried, I installed gcc and all that, gcc-cpp and the whatnot, all that stuff, make and everything, but when I'd go "./configure" it wasn't able to find cc or gcc
[10:25] <oxez> Seveas, firefox still starts with UTF-8, even if my website use iso-8859-1
[10:25] <SolitaryCritic> I need all around time
[10:25] <Spudchat> has anyone gotten the linksys WUSB54GP to work in ubuntu?
[10:25] <hess_> tnx very very much,works =)))
[10:25] <michele> rathel, gnome-volume-manager is mounting it
[10:25] <senile_implant> SolitaryCritic, it's probably not possible
[10:25] <SolitaryCritic> damnit
[10:25] <rathel> so just load that on startup?
[10:25] <senile_implant> SolitaryCritic, you can't see someone's online time in gaim anyway
[10:26] <senile_implant> just away time
[10:26] <senile_implant> oh wait nm you can with icq
[10:26] <funkyHat> senile_implant, you can with aim too
[10:26] <Seveas> oxez, then send correct headers with your website
[10:26] <senile_implant> funkyHat, yeah i would have assumed so
[10:26] <surfdue> is there an easy way to install my ati radeon 9200 graphic cards driver?
[10:27] <Seveas> !ati
[10:27] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:27] <kezz> killahkosha, you need to apt-get install build-essential
[10:27] <H3PO> is there a way to activate the framebuffer in ubuntu-breezy without to build the kernel bye my self?
[10:27] <TylerE> I'm running into a weird issue. For some reason I can't connect to anything on my local machine (IE: ssh) from itself. I don't get a connection failed error or anything, the connection just hangs
[10:27] <oxez> Seveas, that's what I do, but firefox sets UTF-8 with every website
[10:27] <killahkosha> kezz, oh, ok, lemme reinstall Hoary then ;)
[10:27] <mjr> surfdue, you should have a working driver with 3d accel by default; if you still want the proprietary one, see seveas
[10:28] <alex__> I have published my xorg.conf there http://pastebin.com/339335 Can someone PLEASE tell me what I do wrong, I CAN't both of my monitor working at the same time
[10:28] <surfdue> wont load
[10:28] <TylerE> I think it may be some sort of routing issue
[10:28] <surfdue> i cant get to the ubuntu wiki
[10:28] <TylerE> For instance if I try to nmap localhost, it says it can't figure out how to route packets to 127.0.0.1
[10:28] <n45800> Tyler: check your hosts file
[10:29] <n45800> getent hosts
[10:29] <muffin_> hi
[10:29] <surfdue> nvm got it
[10:29] <muffin_> should totem be natively able to play MP3??
[10:29] <TylerE> n45800: hosts looks okay. first line is 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
[10:29] <senile_implant> who controls ubotu?
[10:29] <michele> alex__, you need two Device secions
[10:30] <Seveas> senile_implant, why do you need to know that?
[10:30] <michele> alex__, and you need to put Screen 0 and Screen 1 in them
[10:30] <senile_implant> Seveas, for a suggestion
[10:30] <Seveas> senile_implant, tell us :)
[10:30] <senile_implant> !ati should be http:// instead of https://
[10:30] <ubotu> senile_implant: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:31] <muffin_> totem: There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[10:31] <surfdue> hmm can i reboot
[10:31] <surfdue> without leaving this chat
[10:31] <senile_implant> ubotu, huh?
[10:31] <surfdue> :P
[10:31] <ubotu> senile_implant: Are you on ritalin?
[10:31] <Seveas> senile_implant, all wiki urls are reachable by both http and https
[10:31] <surfdue> that be cool
[10:31] <michele> alex__, here's mine, working: http://pastebin.com/339342
[10:31] <surfdue> brb
[10:31] <senile_implant> blah whatever.
[10:31] <senile_implant> fine then
[10:31] <EBowles> will memtest fix my crc error?
[10:31] <Seveas> don't let the bot hurt your feelings :)
[10:32] <TylerE> whoah, something is majorly borked
[10:32] <TylerE> I can't even *ping* localhst
[10:32] <Seveas> TylerE, ifup lo
[10:32] <muffin_> should totem be natively able to play MP3??
[10:32] <reiki> muffin: no
[10:32] <Seveas> muffin_, not out of the box
[10:32] <muffin_> thx
[10:32] <michele> !mp3
[10:32] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:32] <TylerE> interface is already up
[10:32] <muffin_> so why mp3 is linked to totem???
[10:34] <Revan999> Hello , I have just placed an order for this ubuntu on the website
[10:34] <thespiritoftal> can i install xlib-dev using apt-get?
[10:34] <Revan999> I am a noob about anything lunix so will this be as simple as I am told ?
[10:35] <reiki> Revan999: yes
[10:35] <ilpum_> sorry, michele, the internet connection -.-
[10:35] <hussam> what kernel does breezy have. On Distrowatch, it says 2.6.12.10 when the latest is 2.6.12.5
[10:35] <pinko> depends who's talking
[10:35] <muffin_> lunix
[10:35] <funkyHat> Revan999, yes, it really will :)
[10:35] <pinko> Revan999: it will be FUN though!
[10:35] <the--dud> in my opinion, linux is not primarly simple, but rather powerful and agile because of its basic complex structure
[10:35] <reiki> what program will I want to install so that I can burn CDs? I burn data, music, and iso.  Thanks
[10:36] <Niki-> hello
[10:36] <the--dud> reiki, k3b and/or gnomebaker
[10:36] <Niki-> can someone help me?
[10:36] <surfdue> im back!
[10:36] <surfdue> :P
[10:36] <funkyHat> Revan999, and where it isn't, #ubuntu is a great community and someone will be willing to help you with anything you have trouble with
[10:36] <roham_> I installed experience theme engine? how do I start it?
[10:36] <bimberi> reiki: gnomebaker, graveman or k3b
[10:36] <senile_implant> Niki-, no, sorry :(
[10:36] <Niki-> lol
[10:36] <Niki-> well
[10:36] <reiki> thanks...
[10:36] <Niki-> i found a ubuntu tutorial for my printer
[10:36] <the--dud> Just Ask (TM) niki
[10:36] <Niki-> canon i250
[10:37] <Niki-> the problem is, its for 32 bit
[10:37] <Niki-> iam on 64
[10:37] <TylerE> *bangs head on desk*
[10:37] <ilpum_> somebody help me :( I want to format my usbstick...
[10:37] <reiki> trying to get everything set to replace XP..  Not having too much difficulty. This could be easier than I thought
[10:37] <TylerE> basically it seems as if the machine is ignoreing anything INCOMING
[10:37] <Revan999> I have used Knoppix a few times and it automaticly picks up my hard wear set up , this will do the same yes?
[10:37] <Niki-> you need to alien a rpm driver package
[10:37] <TylerE> I can't even ping localhost
[10:37] <Niki-> and well that failes
[10:37] <roham_> I installed experience theme engine? how do I start it?
[10:37] <n45800> ilpum: can you use gparted?
[10:37] <funkyHat> TylerE, have you followed the restricted formats tutorial on the wiki?
[10:37] <bimberi> Revan999: yes.  In fact that's a good sign that ubuntu will work well for you
[10:37] <reiki> Revan999: I've installed on 2 machines in the last 3 days and I didn't have to mess with anything. It found hardware just fine
[10:38] <ilpum_> no, it hangs up -_-
[10:38] <nebular> is there any way to get k3b to burn nrg files?
[10:38] <roham_> Another problem I have is that gnome dosnt login if I have my internet cable plugged in... what should I do... I think its something with the interface file... anyone=
[10:38] <roham_> ?
[10:38] <TylerE> funkyHat: Nope. You saying I might have a firewall or semething wihtout realising it?
[10:38] <TylerE> One thing I should note is that I'm running a custom kernel
[10:38] <TylerE> but all the networking stuff is enabled, so...
[10:38] <funkyHat> TylerE, is this the mp3 not playing issue?
[10:39] <surfdue> nice
[10:39] <TylerE> funkyHat: Huh?
[10:39] <senile_implant> TylerE, what if some of the networking stuff blocks pings? lol
[10:39] <funkyHat> ok, someone else
[10:39] <funkyHat> sorry :)
[10:39] <TylerE> funkyHat: No, I think you've got me confused.
[10:39] <surfdue> ok now what i need, i cant seem to get a program called skype to work
[10:39] <ilpum_> can anyone tell me an example command?
[10:39] <TylerE> it's like I have a firewall that rejects anything incoming
[10:39] <surfdue> its a deb pakcage, i have it when i click to open it nothing happens
[10:39] <icewt> surfdue, dpkg -i *.deb
[10:39] <Derkommissar> How can i figure out if im running xorg or xfree86 ?
[10:39] <michele> ilpum_, what about man mkfs?
[10:40] <funkyHat> TylerE, what services are you running that you want to connect to?
[10:40] <surfdue> icewt i got it from apt-get
[10:40] <TylerE> funkyHat, ssh, other things
[10:40] <hussam> anybody knows if breezy will be upgraded to gtk2.8.0 or will it stay with gtk2.7.5 ?
[10:40] <TylerE> funkyHat, NOTHING is getting thoruhg
[10:40] <TylerE> I can't even run nmap against it
[10:40] <Derkommissar> when looking at the logs, i see logs for both... im confused, XFree86.0.log   ---  Xorg.0.log
[10:41] <Niki-> hey
[10:41] <Niki-> was someone answering about the printer stuff?
[10:41] <Niki-> lol
[10:41] <surfdue> hmm
[10:41] <icewt> surfdue, so? although i think you should get it from skype website for the latest version
[10:41] <surfdue> it still wotn work
[10:41] <surfdue> i just installed from the skype website
[10:41] <NallePuh> ah it was ubuntu who was at freenode :P
[10:41] <surfdue> dosnt seem to work!
[10:41] <ilpum_> @michele what is the fstype for fat?
[10:41] <icewt> surfdue, err.. what does it say then?
[10:42] <NallePuh> ubuntu was pretty good :>
[10:42] <surfdue> nothing
[10:42] <michele> ilpum_, it's in the manual
[10:42] <surfdue> nothing atall
[10:42] <NallePuh> but i got alot more CD's then i actually needed :P
[10:42] <n45800> ilpum: i think vfat
[10:42] <MrPockets> what can i use in Ubuntu to burn CDs?
[10:42] <ilpum_> michele so it's the same as vfat?
[10:42] <icewt> surfdue, you said you clicked the deb-file? that's the installation package
[10:42] <surfdue> it just dont start
[10:42] <surfdue> no
[10:42] <Niki-> ---<| need help getting to help printer drivers for 32 bit on 64 bit |>---
[10:42] <surfdue> icewt i go to my programs menu click skype
[10:42] <surfdue> and it wont start
[10:42] <icewt> surfdue, ah, ok. try to start it from terminal then
[10:43] <surfdue> k
[10:43] <n45800> surfdue: try running from CLI
[10:43] <n45800> ...
[10:43] <icewt> surfdue, and see what it says
[10:43] <surfdue> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:43] <quiet> is there an apt for Ximian Desktop?
[10:43] <surfdue> hmm how do i fix that, tahts the error i think
[10:43] <michele> quiet, ximian desktop is no more
[10:43] <n45800> surfdue: you need qt
[10:43] <ilpum_> michele mkfs.vfat /media/usbdisk <- i hope this is correct Xo
[10:43] <surfdue> qt?>
[10:43] <n45800> comes with KDE
[10:43] <surfdue> nooo
[10:43] <surfdue> i dont want kde
[10:43] <bimberi> MrPockets: nautilus, gnomebacker, graveman or k3b (might be others)
[10:43] <n45800> but it seperate too
[10:44] <n45800> i check package name
[10:44] <surfdue> how can i get it?
[10:44] <surfdue> i really have no clue how to get qt
[10:44] <michele> ilpum_, no
[10:44] <icewt> surfdue, you can also try the statically linked package. http://skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static
[10:44] <bimberi> MrPockets: *gnomebaker
[10:44] <icewt> surfdue, if you don't want to install qt
[10:44] <n45800> surfdue: apt-get install libqt
[10:44] <surfdue> ill install qt
[10:45] <surfdue> if i can keep my beloved gnome
[10:45] <surfdue> and not mess up my beloved ubuntu
[10:45] <surfdue> :)
[10:45] <surfdue> apt-get install qt ?
[10:45] <n45800> surfdue: you can have both :P
[10:45] <michele> surfdue, install libqt3c102-mt
[10:45] <MrPockets> bimberi is it come in the package or need i download it?
[10:45] <ilpum_> @michele okay...
[10:45] <pinko> hey, uh... the "marrillat" source that people in debian often use... is that stuff pretty much integrated into the standard ubuntu repositories?
[10:45] <Derkommissar> is the new vertion of ubuntu ready ?
[10:45] <surfdue> thank you
[10:45] <senile_implant> Derkommissar, not until october
[10:46] <Derkommissar> :(
[10:46] <michele> ilpum_, you need to use the device file /dev/hdX not /media/something
[10:46] <bimberi> MrPockets: nautilus is the file manager (can burn data cds) - the others need to be downloaded
[10:46] <surfdue> and one last question for today hopefully, thank you guys for helping me so much! can someone tell me wine or anyother program a noob like me can use to run a game that i use to play on windows
[10:46] <senile_implant> surfdue, what game?
[10:46] <n45800> surfdue: depends on the game
[10:47] <Tsukasa> surfdue: wine or cedega
[10:47] <pinko> surfdue: I can tell you wine.
[10:47] <bimberi> MrPockets: For nautilus see "CD/DVD Creator" under the Go menu
[10:47] <Derkommissar> senile_implant, is there betas ?
[10:47] <Tsukasa> but as said it depends on the game
[10:47] <pinko> if it pleases.
[10:47] <omeg> Is there something I can do to download/install new languages for my 5.04 system? Like, use a terminal command, or use Synaptic?
[10:47] <n45800> surfdue: try wine, cedega, crossoveroffice, or VMWare
[10:47] <n45800> not necessarily in that order
[10:47] <thespiritoftal> does anyone know if I can install xorg-devel or xlib-dev or xfree86-devel from synaptic?
[10:47] <senile_implant> Derkommissar, apparently some people have installed it, but i wouldn't recommend it unless you absolutely need it
[10:48] <Derkommissar> im battleling with XORG
[10:48] <senile_implant> n45800, you forgot win4lin ;)
[10:48] <Derkommissar> and maybe the new ver will be better
[10:48] <pinko> Derkommissar: battling?
[10:48] <pinko> how?
[10:48] <n45800> senile_implant, Whoops, won't happen again ;P
[10:48] <Derkommissar> i have a laptop, i want to have a big desktop betwin my external lcd and my laptop monito
[10:49] <Derkommissar> and i done everything
[10:49] <omeg> Hehe... when searching for "Dutch", I find two vocabularies for the "new" spelling from 1996. :)
[10:49] <Derkommissar> and i cant acheve that
[10:49] <juanej> is there anyway to make 5.1 sound works fine with 2 speakers with a 2.1 sound board?
[10:49] <omeg> (In Synaptic.)
[10:49] <pinko> Derkommissar: though I believe I've seen it done, I have no idea how.
[10:49] <rrittenhouse> I am ssh'ed into a remote machine (ubuntu) and I need to change the hostname.. where can I change this so it takes effect everywhere and does not break any network connections ?
[10:49] <surfdue> skype isnt working very good
[10:50] <surfdue> it dosnt look very good on gnome
[10:50] <Derkommissar> ubuntu generates the config file for x
[10:50] <Derkommissar> before starting
[10:50] <rrittenhouse> I changed it in /etc/hostname and it wouldnt let the nic come back up at all...
[10:50] <michele> surfdue, install qt-config and tweak it a bit
[10:50] <alexws> Is there a non-torrent mirror for the (k)ubuntu live/install dvd?
[10:50] <alexws> The torrent won't connect.
[10:50] <c0rrupt_> sauce
[10:50] <surfdue> k
[10:50] <michele> surfdue, but it will never look really good. Qt looks "good" only in KDE
[10:50] <surfdue> E: Couldn't find package qt-config
[10:51] <michele> surfdue, there are no non-KDE Qt themes other than those shipped
[10:51] <a1zi> i can get aim to come up
[10:51] <surfdue> shipped?
[10:51] <a1zi> i have installed it but it wont come up
[10:51] <michele> ah well qt3-config or whatever...
[10:51] <michele> shipped with qt itself
[10:51] <Revan999> Will my hd being ntsf be a problem ?
[10:51] <a1zi> does anyone have aim and is using it instead of gaim
[10:51] <icewt> i've never understood why all programs should look the same. i don't really care as long as they work ;)
[10:51] <surfdue> nope
[10:51] <Aitor> hola
[10:51] <Aitor> hi
[10:51] <surfdue> no suck qt3
[10:51] <LathropWells> http://kde-look.org
[10:52] <surfdue> such*
[10:52] <surfdue> n45800, do u mind if I pm you about this game issue
[10:52] <a1zi> has anyone downloaded AIM!?
[10:52] <nickrud> surfdue, ac search config | grep qt gives qt3-qtconfig
[10:52] <NallePuh> oops wrong nick
[10:52] <senile_implant> alzi, try the program gaim
[10:53] <nickrud> um, alias ac='apt-cache' ;)
[10:53] <surfdue> nope
[10:53] <surfdue> dosnt work
[10:53] <michele> surfdue, qt3-qtconfig
[10:53] <a1zi> senile_implant: i did... its ok.. but i want to know why AIM dont work
[10:53] <surfdue> nope
[10:53] <icewt> surfdue, you could also try #winehq
[10:53] <senile_implant> a1zi, does aim actually have a linux client?
[10:53] <surfdue> wow skype is really bad, the buttons dont work when i click them
[10:53] <a1zi> senile_implant: yes....
[10:53] <rrittenhouse> Anyone know how to change the hostname in ubuntu (but not from the GUI?)
[10:53] <ubuntu> !recoveringgrub
[10:53] <ubotu> [recoveringgrub]  at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:53] <a1zi> i instaleed it sucessfully...
[10:54] <dabaR> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.
[10:54] <a1zi> senile_implant: but... when i type the command to bring it up, nothign happens
[10:54] <dabaR> However, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out
[10:54] <MrPockets> what are the alternitaves to gnome?
[10:54] <killahkosha> MrPockets, kde
[10:54] <killahkosha> MrPockets, xfce
[10:54] <MrPockets> and how hard is taht to switch?
[10:54] <killahkosha> MrPockets, englightenment
[10:54] <mike_> console
[10:54] <senile_implant> a1zi, are you executing it from a terminal?
[10:54] <killahkosha> use kubuntu
[10:55] <mike_> :x
[10:55] <a1zi> senile_implant: if it doesnt work, can anyone tell me how to uninstall it
[10:55] <LathropWells> !windowmanagers
[10:55] <ubotu> windowmanagers is, like, totally, http://xwinman.org/ Feel the power of open software and choices.
[10:55] <kezz> MrPockets, choose a different Session when you login
[10:55] <a1zi> senile_implant: yes i am exicuting from teminal  but it says no such file or directory.. but i looked there and it says it is there.. GUI
[10:55] <Doonz> boost
[10:56] <a1zi> senile_implant: unless gui is lying
[10:56] <senile_implant> a1zi, you need to put the full path in
[10:56] <a1zi> oh.....
[10:56] <a1zi> senile_implant: will it not work if i just click on the icon.
[10:56] <alexws> Hmmm, the only non torrent mirror of the ubuntu live/install dvd I can find is on the irish freebsd mirror
[10:56] <a1zi> senile_implant:?
[10:56] <alexws> And it's insanely slow / dead
[10:56] <juanej> is there anyway to make 5.1 sound work fine with 2 speakers? i cant listen the voices of a movie
[10:56] <senile_implant> a1zi, you can see the errors if you do it with a terminal
[10:57] <a1zi> senile_implant: ok ill try..  thanks boss
[10:57] <surfdue> what package is xfce
[10:57] <paulproteus> surfdue: xfce4
[10:57] <alexws> lol its so slow safari won't tell me how slow it is
[10:57] <surfdue> k
[10:57] <paulproteus> surfdue: Try apt-cache search
[10:57] <surfdue> E: Couldn't find package xfce4
[10:57] <LathropWells> !info xfce4
[10:57] <surfdue> no
[10:57] <ubotu> xfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[10:57] <a1zi> senile_implant: i get an error.
[10:57] <alexws> "ETA: 3 weeks, 5 days 8 hours and..."
[10:57] <a1zi> now what?
[10:57] <juanej> On windows i can use ffdshow to make each channel sound on my 2 speakers, but i dont now what can i do here
[10:57] <a1zi> senile_implant now what?
[10:57] <senile_implant> a1zi, what's the error?
[10:58] <a1zi> aim: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:58] <surfdue> hmm
[10:58] <quiet> can you upgrade to breezy with apt?
[10:58] <surfdue> what package
[10:58] <surfdue> is breezy the most recent?
[10:58] <alex__> michele, tha ks for your help, but I did not put two devices sections because this is the same device, the video card is the same
[10:58] <muffin_> in which repositorie can i get gstreamer0.8-mad (mp3 support)???
[10:58] <quiet> current, unstable
[10:58] <surfdue> hmm
[10:58] <a1zi> senile_implant: what cha thinking?
[10:58] <surfdue> anyone know the xfce package name
[10:58] <nickrud> muffin_, universe
[10:58] <surfdue> xfce4 wont work
[10:58] <quiet> surfdue, xfce4
[10:58] <quiet> oh
[10:58] <ninnghizidha_> bla.
[10:59] <quiet> dunno
[10:59] <surfdue> xfce4 wont work
[10:59] <quiet> apt-cache search xfce4
[10:59] <senile_implant> a1zi, you need to install gtk i guess
[10:59] <nickrud> surfdue, you need to fix your repositories,
[10:59] <surfdue> ok
[10:59] <nickrud> !repositories
[10:59] <ubotu> I guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:59] <surfdue> to what?
[10:59] <surfdue> k
[10:59] <bimberi> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:59] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[10:59] <LathropWells> srfdue - xfce4 - will work it works GREAT in fact. - ;)
[11:00] <muffin_> but i cant see the package in synaptic...
[11:00] <a1zi> senile_implant: i think i go it
[11:00] <a1zi> senile_implant: thanks
[11:00] <nickrud> muffin_, the ubotu thing about repositories applies to you too, I think
[11:00] <concept10> I used to use a program in windows a long time ago that would enable up to seven connections when downloading programs, is there anything like that for linux?
[11:01] <senile_implant> a1zi, you might like gaim better though.
[11:01] <lok> d4x
[11:01] <surfdue> should i allow universe?
[11:01] <surfdue> i think so but should i?
[11:01] <nickrud> surfdue, yes, and also multiverse
[11:01] <surfdue> there is no multiverse
[11:01] <a1zi> senile_implant: i tryed it..  i liked it  but i am practicing installing pacages with aim..
[11:01] <surfdue> in my respitories check listr
[11:01] <a1zi> senile_implant: how do you uninstall?
[11:01] <senile_implant> concept10, http://ubuntuguide.org/#d4x
[11:01] <a1zi> senile_implant: thanks for your help again
[11:02] <senile_implant> a1zi, lol i can't help you with uninstallation
[11:02] <surfdue> nice
[11:02] <LathropWells> !apt
[11:02] <senile_implant> unless you installed it with apt
[11:02] <ubotu> I heard apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[11:02] <a1zi> senile_implant: is it possible
[11:02] <a1zi> senile_implant: is it possible to uninstall?>????
[11:02] <senile_implant> a1zi, anything's possible. but AIM might not have made it easy
[11:03] <a1zi> i see
[11:03] <LathropWells> apt-get --purge ????
[11:03] <avanspronsen> !ubuntuguide
[11:03] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[11:03] <a1zi> senile_implant: is my text to you in red?
[11:03] <nickrud> surfdue, you can sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and add multiverse to the end of all lines that have universe in them.
[11:03] <senile_implant> a1zi, yes
[11:03] <a1zi> senile_implant: so commas and semi colons make it red
[11:03] <senile_implant> a1zi, when someone uses my nickname it highlights the text
[11:04] <shinu> hi everyone
[11:04] <senile_implant> lol has nothing to do with commas or semi-colons
[11:04] <shinu> i have a slightly strange thing going on...
[11:04] <a1zi> senile_implant oh
[11:04] <shinu> somethings taking up quite a lot of ram and i dont know what...
[11:04] <a1zi> senile_implant so that is red?
[11:04] <senile_implant> a1zi, yes
[11:04] <a1zi> senile_implant hahaha nice
[11:04] <a1zi> senile_implant im new
[11:04] <ubuntu> hi
[11:04] <senile_implant> shinu, try running top
[11:05] <shinu> 300mb of ram is taken (according to the xfce ram meter)
[11:05] <thespiritoftal> anyone knows how I can install xfree86-devel to ubuntu?
[11:05] <a1zi> senile_implant well.. i am grateful
[11:05] <shinu> senile_implant: but i only have an xfce session on and some terminals...
[11:05] <senile_implant> a1zi, it depends on the IRC client you use
[11:05] <senile_implant> shinu, you can sort it by the amount of ram used
[11:05] <shinu> senile_implant: might it be some dead process that quit improperly?
[11:05] <juanej> which xine frontend should i install?
[11:05] <senile_implant> shinu, i doubt it
[11:06] <a1zi> later all
[11:06] <senile_implant> a1zi, see ya
[11:06] <LathropWells> xine-ui?
[11:06] <juanej> what about gxine?
[11:06] <LathropWells> << VLC or mplayer are worth a try also
[11:06] <shinu> senile_implant: i had to kill some mplayers running a film from a dvd that didnt work properly...
[11:06] <LathropWells> sure - gxine is very nice
[11:06] <juanej> i dont like mplayer
[11:07] <senile_implant> shinu, so you got it then?
[11:07] <bedi> juanej: i too
[11:07] <bedi> totem-xine is the best, hehe
[11:07] <shinu> senile_implant: not really
[11:07] <shinu> senile_implant: just a sec :P trying to figure out
[11:07] <LathropWells> lol - player wars. - yep but vlc is a streaming server too. :P
[11:08] <juanej> look, i just want to make 5.1 sound work fine with my 2 speakers
[11:08] <juanej> voices are too low on 5.1 movies
[11:08] <surfdue> is there an easy way to get my game running
[11:08] <surfdue> roller coaster tycoon 3
[11:08] <shinu> senile_implant: well... xorg takes up the most space... which is 3.9%... im talking about some 50% of my ram... :(
[11:09] <muffin_> hm... i can't find any repository with gstreamer0.8-mad on it.... tons of gstreamer plugins, but no mad............
[11:09] <avanspronsen> !repos
[11:09] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:10] <nickrud> muffin_, it's definitely in universe
[11:10] <senile_implant> shinu, you're sure that's %MEM and not %CPU you're looking at?
[11:11] <shinu> senile_implant: im pretty sure yes, i presse shift + o to choose the sort field and then 'n'
[11:11] <pinko> so are there other distros nowadays that have built themselves entirely around ubuntu packages?
[11:11] <nickrud> muffin_, try apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:11] <shinu> senile_implant: there is a %MEM above the thing im looking at ;)
[11:11] <shinu> senile_implant: and now firefox is taking up 6%...
[11:12] <shinu> senile_implant: could a killed process not free up the ram it used?
[11:12] <LathropWells> shinu - unused ram is "wasted" recently used apps are cached "idling" in ram because reloading them from disk would be slower.
[11:12] <codecaine> anyone give me some info on patch management for multiple pcs running ubuntu?
[11:12] <surfdue> is there an easy way to get my game running, roller coaster tycoon 3, but easily
[11:12] <surfdue> becuase im noobish
[11:12] <paulproteus> codecaine: apt-cron
[11:13] <paulproteus> codecaine: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/162
[11:13] <codecaine> paulproteus, thx
[11:13] <realcr> I got a computer running ununtu [last version]  connected to a dhcp supported router. I didn't installed the x system. how can I configure the network to work?
[11:13] <LathropWells> google "linux swappiness" sysctrl can tune your system exactly as you think it should run. - the defaults are usually spot on unless you are running a busy server.
[11:14] <juanej> how do i uninstall a compiled mplayer???
[11:14] <shinu> LathropWells: but i only had some mplayer run from a terminal and a few terminals open in xfce... that should make the ram meter jump to 300mb
[11:14] <fz> hello all
[11:14] <c0rrupt_> im having a problem with nessus, could anyone in here be considered an expert?
[11:15] <fz> what do you guys use for a graphical ftp client ?
[11:15] <stianh> hey guys, I've installed Audacity and Beast, among other things, and they all say complain about missing audio device. However, beep-media-player works fine :s
[11:15] <fz> i'm tired of gftp!
[11:15] <stianh> I've tried starting alsa from the commandline, but the applications still don't work
[11:15] <senile_implant> fz, me too!
[11:15] <c0rrupt_> fireftp
[11:16] <LathropWells> !alsa
[11:16] <ubotu> somebody said alsa was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[11:16] <c0rrupt_> !nessus
[11:16] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:16] <c0rrupt_> no
[11:16] <c0rrupt_> im having a problem with nessus, could anyone in here be considered an expert?
[11:16] <D-N_[A] > plz i wanna help in instaling ubuntu on my pc
[11:16] <D-N_[A] > " i'm a newbie (win user )
[11:16] <c0rrupt_> i am running the server and client on the same PC
[11:16] <samu> is there a page that lists changes between hoary and breezy?
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> the server is running
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> but i cannot connect to it
[11:17] <funkyHat> is dmix configured already in ubuntu?
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> in facgt
[11:17] <fz> so what do you use senile_implant ??
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> fact*
[11:17] <Razor-X> qtorrent is an excellent torrent client, I don't know what it does, but it gets Azureus speeds with much less sugar
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> u cannot connect to my ftp server
[11:17] <Razor-X> and much less resources
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> although others can
[11:17] <rob_p> shinu:  Linux tries to take advantage of most of the physical memory that it has access to.  This is not a bad thing!  Much of the memory that isn't directly being used by applications will be used for disk cache and I/O buffers.  This potentially speeds things up considerably since read/write are orders of magnitude faster for RAM than for your hard disk.  The memory manager will usually leave a certain amount available for
[11:17] <rob_p>  other applications and processes but it's normal for your linux box to take advantage of the RAM in your system.
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> so basically
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> my problem is
[11:17] <c0rrupt_> i cannot connect to servers running on my own pc, yet others can
[11:18] <senile_implant> fz, gftp :(
[11:18] <c0rrupt_> Seveas, ?
[11:18] <LathropWells> sic 'em rob_p - wish i had said that.
[11:18] <D-N_[A] > my hard drive is 4 partions one is for linux i wanna install ubuntu without repartion the hard drive i've an ex linux drive
[11:18] <fz> ok, i'm gonna look for fireftp c0rrupt_
[11:18] <c0rrupt_> its used with firefox
[11:18] <c0rrupt_> mdz?
[11:19] <shinu> rob_p: i think i see... so i shouldnt be *too* paranoid about the high meter right?
[11:19] <D-N_[A] > any one help ??
[11:19] <LathropWells> shinu - ram is flushed of idling apps if they aren't needed
[11:20] <rob_p> shinu:  Nope!  :-)
[11:20] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , sure. what is on the other partitions? do you have a swap partition?
[11:20] <c0rrupt_> HELP
[11:20] <shinu> rob_p: k thanks
[11:20] <codecaine> paulproteus, what's it called when you do installs w/o user interaction?
[11:20] <D-N_[A] > yes i have on
[11:20] <shinu> LathropWells: does flushed mean that the ram meter will drop too?
[11:21] <D-N_[A] > but i don't wanna partion the hard drive again :|
[11:21] <Goodspeed> is there a program thats like no-ip for linux?
[11:21] <Goodspeed> i need dns redirection fasst
[11:21] <shinu> D-N_[A] : if you already have a linux partition you arent using you dont have to repartition the drive
[11:21] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , you should be able to install ubuntu then, using just the partition you want to, without repartitioning the whole drive
[11:21] <shinu> just reuse those partitions
[11:21] <LathropWells> not necessarily - apps are cached in ram rather than on the disk - disk access is slow
[11:21] <D-N_[A] > yes how can i found it
[11:21] <D-N_[A] > plz guide me ??
[11:21] <c0rrupt_> im having a little trouble with kubuntu, it seems that i cannot connect to servers running on my comp localy but others can (proftpd,nessusd). anyone have any ideas?
[11:22] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , are you running the installer now?
[11:22] <D-N_[A] > i can write after you :)
[11:22] <D-N_[A] > say it
[11:22] <Goodspeed> apt-get install no-ip?
[11:23] <LathropWells> recent apps are kept in ram the os hopes they will be needed and quickly flushed when another app needs the ram they idle in.
[11:23] <pestilence> hoping somebody can answer this easily:  i installed drupal, and when i goto http://mywebsite/drupal/index.php it shows up fine, but if i go to http://mywebsite/drupal it asks if i want to save a phtml file.  any ideas?
[11:23] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , are you installing ubuntu now, or is it the machine you are using now that you want to install it on?
[11:23] <pfp> Goodspeed: if you mean dynamic dns, there's dyndns.org
[11:24] <Goodspeed> i need a program for linux
[11:24] <Goodspeed> i have a host at no-ip
[11:24] <LathropWells> !dyndns
[11:24] <ubotu> LathropWells: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:24] <quiet> how do you install themes for metacity/gtk?
[11:24] <D-N_[A] > thats the machine that iwanna instal
[11:24] <shinu> LathropWells: ok, thats what i understood from what rob said. thanks ^^
[11:24] <D-N_[A] > i'll try after u answer :)
[11:24] <funkyHat> ok
[11:24] <pfp> Goodspeed: hmm, dyndns.org uses some open proto for updates, maybe you can use the same clients for no-ip
[11:25] <pfp> e.g. apt-cache search dynamic dns
[11:25] <LathropWells> shinu "linux swappiness" sysctrl is interesting. - memory management is got linus interested in writing a kernel.
[11:25] <Goodspeed> ok
[11:25] <shinu> :)
[11:25] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , when you get to the stage in the installer that asks about where to install ubuntu, if you choose 'manually edit partition table' you can select the partition you want to use, and set it's mount point to /
[11:26] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , don't touch any of the other partitions (except set your swap partition to 'use as swap' if the swap flag isn't already there
[11:26] <PurpleMotion> ubotu dyndns is a free service to provide people with canonical hostnames for their dynamic IP addresses, thus making it easier for their personal systems to be reached when they are online. Please see http://www.dyndns.org/ for more information.
[11:26] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: okay
[11:26] <PurpleMotion> !dyndns
[11:26] <ubotu> well, dyndns is a free service to provide people with canonical hostnames for their dynamic IP addresses, thus making it easier for their personal systems to be reached when they are online. Please see http://www.dyndns.org/ for more information.
[11:26] <Goodspeed> ok i found a file at no-ip
[11:26] <Goodspeed> its a tar
[11:26] <PurpleMotion> there ya go
[11:26] <Goodspeed> i just .l/ the sh file right?
[11:26] <Goodspeed> ./*
[11:27] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , doing that actually _isn't_ editing your partition table
[11:27] <pfp> PurpleMotion: :)
[11:27] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , and your other operating systems will still work
[11:27] <D-N_[A] > it must be found a swap partion as i downaloded slackware on it
[11:27] <D-N_[A] > and i used lilo
[11:27] <shinu> gnights everyone :)
[11:27] <theD3viL> How can i enable my infrared device?? lsusb show irDA is: Mobile Action Technology, Inc. MA-620 USB Infrared Adapter
[11:28] <LathropWells> purple - glad it's back - very handy service noip selfhost and about a thousand others make having a home webserver fun.
[11:28] <vitor4130> hi there! does anyone knows if its possible to have itunes on linux?thanks
[11:28] <PurpleMotion> LathropWells:  it's been back for some time, m8
[11:28] <nariman> can anyone help me
[11:28] <MrPockets> no onre can help you
[11:28] <nariman> i need and graphical burn app
[11:28] <Goodspeed> is that dyndns free though?
[11:28] <PurpleMotion> yeah
[11:29] <Goodspeed> where
[11:29] <Goodspeed> ?
[11:29] <ilpum> how do i find out the location of an usb device? :D
[11:29] <PurpleMotion> dyndns.org
[11:29] <Goodspeed> OHHh
[11:29] <Goodspeed> i went to .com
[11:29] <Goodspeed> dammit
[11:29] <LathropWells> PurpleMotion, my spelling is awful. !dyndns got pfft nothing for me. - lol
[11:29] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , is there still a problem?
[11:29] <nariman> hello?
[11:29] <avadash> hey how do i do emulation like alcohol 120% does in linux?
[11:29] <D-N_[A] > i'll try and i 'll say
[11:29] <Goodspeed> in your account where do you go to get the free one?
[11:30] <Goodspeed> my zones?
[11:30] <pfp> Goodspeed: services iirc...
[11:30] <nariman> just say the name off and app that can burn ISOs
[11:30] <nickrud> nariman, gnomebaker and k3b are recommended here often
[11:30] <PurpleMotion> go to services, then to dyndns
[11:30] <funkyHat> D-N_[A] , cool. one thing: don't move the boot flag!
[11:30] <LathropWells> avadash - i like ddrescue or dd - it copies those odd errors some retail disks have.
[11:30] <nariman> ok nickrud
[11:30] <nariman> thnx
[11:30] <MrPockets> hows Ubuntu on copywrite,  if i wanted to make some Ubuntu support shirts and hand them out, or sell for material costs would that be infringment?
[11:31] <Goodspeed> coolio
[11:31] <Goodspeed> purple did you pay for your hostname?
[11:31] <Goodspeed> nmmm
[11:31] <Goodspeed> you just said homnelinux.net and i thought you made that
[11:31] <avadash> LathropWells: no i have 3 iso that i dont want to burn... i just want to run the like theyre on the computer
[11:32] <c0rrupt_> ok
[11:32] <c0rrupt_> at boot
[11:32] <c0rrupt_> i get this error
[11:32] <LathropWells> avadash is linux easy "cloop" i think is the command  mounts it like a file
[11:32] <funkyHat> avadash, mount them using mount :)
[11:32] <c0rrupt_> and when running networking restart
[11:32] <c0rrupt_> * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                   [fail] 
[11:32] <avadash> ok thx
[11:32] <c0rrupt_> Seveas,
[11:33] <c0rrupt_> i think i found an important link to my problem
[11:33] <worthawholebean> Hi. My Yaboot won't install. I'm using a Mac with one partition on the internal drive and three gigs of unpartitioned space. I then have Ubuntu partition the free space for me, but Yaboot won't install. It sasy that it can't be installed into /target
[11:33] <pestilence> hoping somebody can answer this easily:  i installed drupal, and when i goto http://mywebsite/drupal/index.php it shows up fine, but if i go to http://mywebsite/drupal it asks if i want to save a phtml file.  any ideas?
[11:34] <LathropWells> # mount -o loop -t iso9660 -r
[11:35] <redguy> pestilence: sounds like you have to configure your webserver to serve index.php as well if no filename is specified
[11:35] <pestilence> redguy: that's what i thought, but i have this in my apache2.conf:
[11:35] <pestilence> redguy: DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml
[11:35] <worthawholebean> Can anyone help me?
[11:36] <redguy> pestilence: and no other index files in drupal?
[11:36] <kezz> pestilence, maybe set it to process phtml files server side instead of just serving the text
[11:36] <knowledge> ok, so i'm trying to install something and when I'm typing in 'make -f Makefile.cvs' I keep getting "./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found
[11:36] <knowledge> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[11:36] <knowledge> "
[11:36] <knowledge> but the thing is I have the latest version installed
[11:36] <pestilence> redguy: nope.
[11:36] <pestilence> kezz: hmmm
[11:36] <kezz> knowledge, have you installed build-essentials
[11:36] <c0rrupt_> OK
[11:36] <c0rrupt_> i need help..
[11:37] <redguy> pestilence: I'm no apache guru, can't help you. sorry
[11:37] <felipe_> hola
[11:37] <c0rrupt_> at boot
[11:37] <c0rrupt_> i get this error message
[11:37] <c0rrupt_> * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                   [fail] 
[11:37] <felipe_> como se instalan y donde puedo bajar skin para beep media player ?
[11:37] <c0rrupt_> and i cannot ping myself
[11:37] <c0rrupt_> localy
[11:37] <redguy> !es
[11:37] <c0rrupt_> but i can ping foreign hosts
[11:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:37] <pestilence> kezz: how do i do that?
[11:37] <knowledge> kezz: Yeap
[11:38] <Goodspeed> how do install a .sh file?
[11:38] <Goodspeed> debian.noip2.sh
[11:38] <echylo> ./blabla.sh
[11:38] <worthawholebean> Meh, I'm not going to install Ubuntu. The community doesn't seem very helpful.
[11:38] <Goodspeed> and if it returns blank its installed?
[11:38] <Rydekull> Goodspeed: .sh is a shell-script
[11:38] <pestilence> worthawholebean: you're kidding, right?
[11:38] <echylo> can someone send me their standard syslog.conf
[11:38] <kezz> pestilence,  AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml
[11:38] <Rydekull> Goodspeed: read it and look in it what it does
[11:38] <nophix> how long should a normal fsck.ext3 take for a 77GB partition?
[11:38] <echylo> wortha wth?
[11:38] <pestilence> kezz: yea, i tried that.
[11:38] <VooDoo> ello
[11:38] <kezz> did you restart apache?
[11:39] <pestilence> kezz: yea :)
[11:39] <knowledge> anyone else have any idea about my problem?
[11:40] <kezz> pestilence, does it process phtml files properly if you point the browser at one? have you tried adding index.phtml to the directory index
[11:40] <pestilence> kezz: well, it processes index.php correctly when i point it at it, and that's all i want...
[11:40] <Pickle_Weasel> what are the /dev's for PCI slots?
[11:41] <pestilence> kezz: i don't understand why it is saying "PHTML" when i load /drupal
[11:41] <EasterSunshine> does (k)ubuntu have on any firewall by default?
[11:41] <pestilence> kezz: because there is no .phtml file, there is only a index.php
[11:41] <kezz> pestilence, is there an index.phtml that is taking preference over index.php
[11:41] <pestilence> kezz: no
[11:41] <EasterSunshine> i want to connect into it on port 22 from my friends house, i don't wanna go there and then discover i can't ssh in
[11:41] <kezz> pestilence, comment out the phtml addtype ?
[11:41] <redguy> pestilence: did you try saving the file and looking inside?
[11:42] <pestilence> redguy: no, i'll try that.
[11:42] <pestilence> kezz: yea.
[11:43] <pestilence> redguy: it's just my index.php file, being misinterpreted by the browser/server
[11:43] <Goodspeed> when i type ./cconfigure && make it tells me there's no directory
[11:43] <kezz> pestilence, browser by the looks of it
[11:43] <Goodspeed> am i missing something on my machine?
[11:43] <rob_p> echylo:  http://rob.pectol.com/ubuntu.syslog.conf
[11:43] <kezz> Goodspeed, type ./configure --help
[11:43] <pestilence> kezz: well, i don't have this problem on my other ubuntu/drupal machines :-/
[11:43] <kezz> pestilence, weird
[11:44] <Goodspeed> kezz im still getting it
[11:44] <Goodspeed> i think i need build essentials
[11:44] <knowledge> if it helps any
[11:44] <echylo> thanks rob_p
[11:44] <rob_p> echylo:  No prob!
[11:44] <c0rrupt_> i cannot ping localhost
[11:44] <c0rrupt_> networking restart fails
[11:44] <c0rrupt_> help?
[11:45] <knowledge> when I get "./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found" I look at what line 33 says....and it's "AUTOCONF_VERSION=`$AUTOCONF --version | head -n 1`"
[11:45] <knowledge> what's wrong in that line?
[11:46] <kezz> Goodspeed, yes you do
[11:46] <Goodspeed> :)
[11:46] <knowledge> anyone now?
[11:46] <knowledge> know*
[11:47] <Goodspeed> i regret taking out my dvd rom drive and putting it into the old computer to install ubuntu
[11:47] <rob_p> EasterSunshine:  Did you get the info you were after?
[11:47] <Goodspeed> cause i have to do it everytime i need a sys file
[11:47] <Goodspeed> :(
[11:47] <kezz> knowledge, i think $autoconf must be empty
[11:48] <titanium> i cannot get the JDK installed on ubuntu.
[11:48] <kezz> titanium, did you install it from the sun site?
[11:49] <EasterSunshine> rob_p: what info? i asked about twenty questions here in the last week...
[11:50] <rob_p> EasterSunshine:  ...about whether or not you can access your port 22 externally.
[11:50] <EasterSunshine> rob_p, nope i gonna ask a friend to try it
[11:50] <knowledge> nope...doesn't work
[11:50] <titanium> kezz, i downloaded the jdk bin for linux and i'm trying to follow the wiki guide but it doesn't work
[11:50] <rob_p> EasterSunshine:  If not, I could maybe provide some assistance...
[11:50] <kezz> titanium, follow the guide on the sun site for a linux install
[11:51] <EasterSunshine> rob_p: thx a lot for offering but let me bug my friend first
[11:51] <ninjafish> hi, I have sound in music player when playing mp3s but no sound in totum for mp3 or dvd. Also no sound in xine.
[11:52] <rrittenhouse> I have a script that I want to set as a cron job but when it runs the script its not executing it correctly...we have a script to parse the IP (using sed) from ifconfig and for some reason crontab will not spit it out (i have the script if you wanna see it)
[11:52] <pestilence> how bizarre.  it doesn't do this for other index.php's...i guess it's just the one for drupal that has issues.
[11:52] <rob_p> EasterSunshine:  Well, I just thought I'd offer you the use of my Web-based port scanner.  It's useful for troubleshooting your own connections as it provides a way for you to see if your box is accessible from a remote location.
[11:53] <Goodspeed> OK i installed build essential but i still cannot do ./configure
[11:53] <rob_p> EasterSunshine:  If you wanna use it, it's located here: http://rob.pectol.com/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,52/  Just select the, "Port Scan Utility."
[11:54] <GNULinuxGeek> Hello All !!
[11:54] <EasterSunshine> rob_p: thx, let me try it out
[11:54] <pestilence> no. it's just things in the aliased directory.
[11:55] <rob_p> rrittenhouse:  When you execute the script manually from the command prompt, does it do what you expect?
[11:55] <GNULinuxGeek> Question...  I love Ubuntu.  I wondered if there is a tool (run as root or not) that allows me to switch monitors easily?
[11:56] <knowledge> rawr!
[11:56] <pestilence> GNULinuxGeek: what video card do you have
[11:56] <titanium> does anyone know how to set the document root in apache2? i tried editing apache2.conf and setting DocumentRoot but it doesn't do anything
[11:56] <Goodspeed> how do i add things for startup in terminal?
[11:56] <pestilence> titanium: did you restart apache?
[11:56] <titanium> pestilence: yep. im used to running it on windows so i'm familiar with it
[11:56] <pestilence> titanium: (or apache2, even ;)
[11:56] <titanium> :)
[11:57] <pestilence> titanium: how about editing what's in sites-enabled?
[11:57] <titanium> pestilence: you just lost me
[11:57] <pestilence> titanium: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
 I am using a Asus card with 128MB of RAM and an Nvidia chipset
[11:57] <ttj> I have a machine with only SATA disk-drives. How do I install ubuntu when debian-installer can't find my disks? :/
[11:58] <pestilence> GNULinuxGeek: ah.  don't know.  i know there is such a utility for certain intel boards.
[11:58] <GNULinuxGeek> Can you tell me the name of the util?
[11:58] <Goodspeed> can you view webpages in terminal?
[11:58] <theD3viL> yes
[11:59] <pestilence> Goodspeed: w3m
[11:59] <theD3viL> Goodspeed, yes
[11:59] <pestilence> GNULinuxGeek: i think it is i810switch
[11:59] <pestilence> GNULinuxGeek: almost guarantee it won't work on your card, though
[12:00] <ReleaseX> anybody here use the intel extreme graphics 2 onboard video with shared memory?
[12:00] <c0rrupt_> me