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| edwin | someone speak spanish? | 02:01 |
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| mhz | I do | 02:03 |
| mhz | yo | 02:03 |
| mhz | :) | 02:03 |
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| edwin | heh | 02:06 |
| edwin | ola | 02:06 |
| edwin | lei.. un poco de edubuntu en la web | 02:06 |
| edwin | quieria averiguar mas | 02:06 |
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| jelkner | ogra: is the edubuntu is ready for use? | 02:07 |
| edwin | heh.. se fue mhz | 02:07 |
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| jelkner | does anyone know if the edubuntu cd is ready for use/testing? | 02:10 |
| mhz_vuelvo_luego | edwin: aun estoy en la preparacion de la cena... si me esperas un poco, con agrado te explico lo que necesites :) | 03:02 |
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| mhz | jsgotangco: ping? | 06:07 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 06:07 |
| mhz | hi there | 06:07 |
| mhz | got 3 minutes? | 06:07 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 06:07 |
| mhz | ok | 06:07 |
| mhz | I shoot | 06:07 |
| jsgotangco | what's up | 06:07 |
| mhz | Moin/ last time I understood the following: | 06:07 |
| mhz | Doc team is using SVN because you all need versioning, and DocBook because of its capabilities, right? | 06:08 |
| jsgotangco | DocBook has been used throughout any technical documentation AFAIK | 06:09 |
| mhz | However, despite SVN is very good and mature, it is always to work off line and then submit | 06:09 |
| jsgotangco | and very much centralized | 06:09 |
| mhz | That forces doc team gung to carry the HD with them all the time, right? | 06:10 |
| mhz | (if we talk about fans, of course) | 06:10 |
| jsgotangco | contributors have their machines yes | 06:10 |
| mhz | Also, SVN forces people to IDLE or others to submit their advances before we know the real time status of their contributions, right? | 06:11 |
| mhz | IDLE for others. | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | im not following you | 06:12 |
| mhz | hehe | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | SVN is being used because everyone in the team is used to it | 06:12 |
| mhz | SVN is good BUT forces to be people-dependant | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | but its not just Edubuntu | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | its the whole Ubuntu documentation | 06:12 |
| mhz | yes, I know | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | we've been talking about moving it to Baz in the near future post breezy | 06:13 |
| mhz | Baz is gonna kick some butts | 06:13 |
| mhz | Baz is real cool | 06:13 |
| jsgotangco | because SVN forces us to be dependent on 1 person controlling ACLs | 06:13 |
| mhz | yes, exactly | 06:13 |
| mhz | Now we talk | 06:13 |
| jsgotangco | me and mpt have been doing some Ubuntu Help on Baz but it won't come out for breezy probably | 06:13 |
| mhz | I am a Translator, ans as such, I always wanted a tool that could let me work both off and on line | 06:14 |
| mhz | but always keep everything on line, so I can be anywhere with any web browser and work | 06:15 |
| mhz | MoinMoin lets me do that | 06:15 |
| mhz | plus its control versioning is very good | 06:15 |
| mhz | and deals beautifully with ACL's | 06:15 |
| jsgotangco | if you're talking about a web/browser interface to do documentation, we've discussed that a long long time ago in the docteam but it fizzled out and resulted in a mini-flame war within the community | 06:16 |
| mhz | LOL | 06:16 |
| jsgotangco | it needs to be planned ahead | 06:16 |
| jsgotangco | even the Gnome people have it as a bounty | 06:16 |
| jsgotangco | i mean Google | 06:16 |
| jsgotangco | because the problem is social, not technical | 06:17 |
| mhz | that's why I will do my translations in MoinMoin | 06:17 |
| mhz | and show a working alternative | 06:17 |
| mhz | not just the idea | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | right | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | but i don't think its workable in our time frame | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | Sept. 8 is documentation freeze | 06:17 |
| mhz | my only problem is I am XML ignorant | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | we can do so in Breezy +1 | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | mhz, we can just parse basic docbook tags | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | so we have a proof of concept | 06:18 |
| mhz | so wahteever I do, I know Moin has a Moin 2 XML something, but I have no idea what to do with that output | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | probably some Moin script that will transform moin tags to docbook equivalent | 06:19 |
| mhz | ok, so you say that I just take care of moining the doc and you get it into XML ? | 06:19 |
| jsgotangco | i know very little of Moin scripting | 06:20 |
| mhz | np | 06:20 |
| jsgotangco | i know the ACLs and stuff | 06:20 |
| mhz | Moin is 100% python | 06:20 |
| jsgotangco | because a Moin solution will be very welcome in Ubuntu | 06:20 |
| mhz | and we can always get help from the Moin gang | 06:20 |
| mhz | (very cool and clever guys) | 06:20 |
| jsgotangco | a solution like that will benefit not only Edubuntu but the whole documentation project | 06:21 |
| mhz | Well, actually, I mentioned and you can see it, Moin .po files are being kept 100% wikied | 06:21 |
| jsgotangco | if you can work something out, we'll see and get the docteam to try it out | 06:23 |
| jsgotangco | the end result should still be in source docbook as much as possible | 06:23 |
| mhz | http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinI18n/es | 06:23 |
| jsgotangco | and let Moin do the front end | 06:23 |
| mhz | exactly | 06:24 |
| jsgotangco | but it should not hamper people from still doing docbook if they want to | 06:24 |
| mhz | Well, I am hosting a site (always in Moin) in a few days more. this will have info about Edubuntu, Ubuntu, and 2 projects I am working on for Latin american schools | 06:25 |
| mhz | There, I plan to host a Spanish version of Cookbook | 06:25 |
| mhz | However, 97% of what we talked now, I am sure it is already done in Moin | 06:26 |
| jsgotangco | ok inform us when you get it working | 06:26 |
| mhz | Versioning has always worked perfectly | 06:26 |
| jsgotangco | i'll just brb for lunch | 06:26 |
| mhz | np | 06:26 |
| mhz | I'll go to sleep | 06:26 |
| mhz | :D | 06:26 |
| mhz | see ya | 06:26 |
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| highvoltage | I'm updating the tuxlab troubleshooting guide for edubuntu/skubuntu/ubuntu | 09:33 |
| highvoltage | what would be the best way for a lab administrator to reset their password if they forget it? | 09:34 |
| highvoltage | (the first user created with admin) | 09:34 |
| highvoltage | afaik, they'll get a screen asking them for a password if they start into single user mode. | 09:34 |
| jsgotangco | well in ubuntu, you just reboot the system and when you're in grub you just go into 2nd option of the kernel and you get in automatically as root | 09:37 |
| jsgotangco | that is in the default install | 09:38 |
| jsgotangco | then reset your password when necessary | 09:38 |
| highvoltage | aaah | 09:46 |
| highvoltage | ok. thanks. | 09:46 |
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| jsgotangco | hi JaneW | 11:07 |
| JaneW | hello jsgotangco | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, are you feeling better? i heard you were ill | 11:08 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: sorry if you got up early for nothing :( | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | did yoga cause it? :) | 11:09 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: yes still a bit fragile (feeling hungover without the pleasure of the fun beforehand) | 11:09 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: no that was Tuesday, if anything yoga would probably help | 11:09 |
| jsgotangco | well if you want some good stuff i got edubuntu running now | 11:09 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: was a migraine, nit sure what triggers mine, I don't get them often | 11:09 |
| jsgotangco | kinda slow though | 11:09 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: my mom and sister get them at least once a month | 11:09 |
| JaneW | YAY *smile* | 11:10 |
| JaneW | progress | 11:10 |
| jsgotangco | wonder if its my machine | 11:11 |
| jsgotangco | its an old 1.7Ghz celeron | 11:12 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, i test on a PIII 900 here... doesnt feel slow normally | 11:14 |
| jsgotangco | hm, | 11:16 |
| ogra | still burning the nightly iso... lets see if its caused by the recent one, but i doubt it | 11:18 |
| jsgotangco | ok i'll rsync this iso and burn again | 11:19 |
| JaneW | OT: I just did a search to see if I am insane, and it turns out I am not the only one who has the rouble with words and nouns in particular in connection with migraines, http://www.migrainepage.com/dcforum/discussion/3452.html | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | you insane? | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | my GF just told me she has this too... my impression was just wrong :) | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | so dont fear youre insane :) | 11:20 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i just installed colony 3 on a separate machine a few minutes ago and now i get an update notification for a ton of new stuff | 11:21 |
| ogra_ | jsgotangco: did you enable universe ? | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | no | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | it even has dbus | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | there were quite some uploads since the iso was built... | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | yup... see breezy changes | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i just noticed that yelp is now launchpad enabled | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | all gnome apps should be | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | seb128 patched libgnomeui... all apps that use it are launchpad aware | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | some games still aren't but we'll see | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | probably old stuff | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | not sure if they got rebuilt with te new libgnomeui yet | 11:27 |
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| jsgotangco | brb | 12:02 |
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| ogra_ | damned | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | mdz broke edubuntu | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | GRRRRRRRRRRRRR | 12:23 |
| JaneW | what why? | 12:48 |
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| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 22:00 UTC Wednesday 17 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 22:00 UTC Wednesday 17 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
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| highvoltage | hello everyone. | 05:16 |
| highvoltage | how are things? | 05:16 |
| Petaris | Hi highvoltage | 05:21 |
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| highvoltage | ok. let's try that again :) | 05:39 |
| highvoltage | howzit going? | 05:39 |
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| Petaris | Hi highvoltage | 06:04 |
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| JaneW | hi all | 10:42 |
| JaneW | mvo just told me that ogra's area has no network atm... | 10:43 |
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| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 22:00 UTC Thursday 18 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| JaneW | *** reminder *** Edubuntu Update meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 45 minutes | 11:14 |
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| JaneW | meetint NOW in #u-m | 12:01 |
| JaneW | meeting even | 12:01 |
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