=== mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving] === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-8.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] === fersfeir [n=fernando@201.250.8.54] has joined #edubuntu === edwin [n=edwin@mail.sni.org.pe] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_libre [n=mhz@pc-12-101-241-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:01] someone speak spanish? === mhz_libre is now known as mhz [02:03] I do [02:03] yo [02:03] :) === mhz BBL === mhz is now known as mhz_vuelvo_luego [02:06] heh [02:06] ola [02:06] lei.. un poco de edubuntu en la web [02:06] quieria averiguar mas === jelkner [n=jelkner@dsl017-065-082.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:07] ogra: is the edubuntu is ready for use? [02:07] heh.. se fue mhz === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu [02:10] does anyone know if the edubuntu cd is ready for use/testing? [03:02] edwin: aun estoy en la preparacion de la cena... si me esperas un poco, con agrado te explico lo que necesites :) === mhz_vuelvo_luego is now known as mhz === Xira [n=Xira@c-24-10-51-201.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [06:07] jsgotangco: ping? [06:07] hi [06:07] hi there [06:07] got 3 minutes? [06:07] sure [06:07] ok [06:07] I shoot [06:07] what's up [06:07] Moin/ last time I understood the following: [06:08] Doc team is using SVN because you all need versioning, and DocBook because of its capabilities, right? [06:09] DocBook has been used throughout any technical documentation AFAIK [06:09] However, despite SVN is very good and mature, it is always to work off line and then submit [06:09] and very much centralized [06:10] That forces doc team gung to carry the HD with them all the time, right? [06:10] (if we talk about fans, of course) [06:10] contributors have their machines yes [06:11] Also, SVN forces people to IDLE or others to submit their advances before we know the real time status of their contributions, right? [06:12] IDLE for others. [06:12] im not following you [06:12] hehe [06:12] SVN is being used because everyone in the team is used to it [06:12] SVN is good BUT forces to be people-dependant [06:12] but its not just Edubuntu [06:12] its the whole Ubuntu documentation [06:12] yes, I know [06:13] we've been talking about moving it to Baz in the near future post breezy [06:13] Baz is gonna kick some butts [06:13] Baz is real cool [06:13] because SVN forces us to be dependent on 1 person controlling ACLs [06:13] yes, exactly [06:13] Now we talk [06:13] me and mpt have been doing some Ubuntu Help on Baz but it won't come out for breezy probably [06:14] I am a Translator, ans as such, I always wanted a tool that could let me work both off and on line [06:15] but always keep everything on line, so I can be anywhere with any web browser and work [06:15] MoinMoin lets me do that [06:15] plus its control versioning is very good [06:15] and deals beautifully with ACL's [06:16] if you're talking about a web/browser interface to do documentation, we've discussed that a long long time ago in the docteam but it fizzled out and resulted in a mini-flame war within the community [06:16] LOL [06:16] it needs to be planned ahead [06:16] even the Gnome people have it as a bounty [06:16] i mean Google [06:17] because the problem is social, not technical [06:17] that's why I will do my translations in MoinMoin [06:17] and show a working alternative [06:17] not just the idea [06:17] right [06:17] but i don't think its workable in our time frame [06:17] Sept. 8 is documentation freeze [06:17] my only problem is I am XML ignorant [06:17] we can do so in Breezy +1 [06:18] mhz, we can just parse basic docbook tags [06:18] so we have a proof of concept [06:18] so wahteever I do, I know Moin has a Moin 2 XML something, but I have no idea what to do with that output [06:19] probably some Moin script that will transform moin tags to docbook equivalent [06:19] ok, so you say that I just take care of moining the doc and you get it into XML ? [06:20] i know very little of Moin scripting [06:20] np [06:20] i know the ACLs and stuff [06:20] Moin is 100% python [06:20] because a Moin solution will be very welcome in Ubuntu [06:20] and we can always get help from the Moin gang [06:20] (very cool and clever guys) [06:21] a solution like that will benefit not only Edubuntu but the whole documentation project [06:21] Well, actually, I mentioned and you can see it, Moin .po files are being kept 100% wikied [06:23] if you can work something out, we'll see and get the docteam to try it out [06:23] the end result should still be in source docbook as much as possible [06:23] http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinI18n/es [06:23] and let Moin do the front end [06:24] exactly [06:24] but it should not hamper people from still doing docbook if they want to [06:25] Well, I am hosting a site (always in Moin) in a few days more. this will have info about Edubuntu, Ubuntu, and 2 projects I am working on for Latin american schools [06:25] There, I plan to host a Spanish version of Cookbook [06:26] However, 97% of what we talked now, I am sure it is already done in Moin [06:26] ok inform us when you get it working [06:26] Versioning has always worked perfectly [06:26] i'll just brb for lunch [06:26] np [06:26] I'll go to sleep [06:26] :D [06:26] see ya === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === cyphase [n=cyphase@69.111.160.232] has joined #edubuntu === Carpe_Libertatem [n=Carpe_Ve@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_zzZzzZZ === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === cyphase [n=cyphase@69.111.160.232] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco starts to rsync edubuntu colony === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Carpe_Libertatem [n=Carpe_Ve@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #edubuntu [] [09:33] I'm updating the tuxlab troubleshooting guide for edubuntu/skubuntu/ubuntu [09:34] what would be the best way for a lab administrator to reset their password if they forget it? [09:34] (the first user created with admin) [09:34] afaik, they'll get a screen asking them for a password if they start into single user mode. [09:37] well in ubuntu, you just reboot the system and when you're in grub you just go into 2nd option of the kernel and you get in automatically as root [09:38] that is in the default install [09:38] then reset your password when necessary [09:46] aaah [09:46] ok. thanks. === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-136-127.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] hi JaneW [11:08] hello jsgotangco [11:08] JaneW, are you feeling better? i heard you were ill [11:08] jsgotangco: sorry if you got up early for nothing :( [11:09] did yoga cause it? :) [11:09] jsgotangco: yes still a bit fragile (feeling hungover without the pleasure of the fun beforehand) [11:09] jsgotangco: no that was Tuesday, if anything yoga would probably help [11:09] well if you want some good stuff i got edubuntu running now [11:09] jsgotangco: was a migraine, nit sure what triggers mine, I don't get them often [11:09] kinda slow though [11:09] jsgotangco: my mom and sister get them at least once a month [11:10] YAY *smile* [11:10] progress [11:11] wonder if its my machine [11:12] its an old 1.7Ghz celeron [11:14] jsgotangco, i test on a PIII 900 here... doesnt feel slow normally [11:16] hm, [11:18] still burning the nightly iso... lets see if its caused by the recent one, but i doubt it [11:19] ok i'll rsync this iso and burn again [11:19] OT: I just did a search to see if I am insane, and it turns out I am not the only one who has the rouble with words and nouns in particular in connection with migraines, http://www.migrainepage.com/dcforum/discussion/3452.html [11:19] you insane? [11:20] my GF just told me she has this too... my impression was just wrong :) [11:20] so dont fear youre insane :) [11:21] hmm i just installed colony 3 on a separate machine a few minutes ago and now i get an update notification for a ton of new stuff [11:22] jsgotangco: did you enable universe ? [11:22] no [11:22] it even has dbus [11:22] there were quite some uploads since the iso was built... [11:22] ahh [11:22] yup... see breezy changes [11:23] hmm i just noticed that yelp is now launchpad enabled [11:24] all gnome apps should be [11:25] seb128 patched libgnomeui... all apps that use it are launchpad aware [11:25] some games still aren't but we'll see [11:26] probably old stuff [11:27] not sure if they got rebuilt with te new libgnomeui yet === pere_gone is now known as pere [12:02] brb === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu [12:23] damned [12:23] mdz broke edubuntu [12:23] GRRRRRRRRRRRRR [12:48] what why? === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089D1D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ltsp [n=ogra@p5089D1D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D1D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@FredericSD-162.nat.wiscnet.net] has joined #edubuntu === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 22:00 UTC Wednesday 17 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 22:00 UTC Wednesday 17 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting === Seveaz [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Seveaz is now known as Seveas === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] === jd86 [n=jim@ip68-9-97-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] hello everyone. [05:16] how are things? [05:21] Hi highvoltage === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu [05:39] ok. let's try that again :) [05:39] howzit going? === pere is now known as pere_gone === mp1 [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [06:04] Hi highvoltage === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-43-82.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #edubuntu === paultgna [i=ircap72@185.red-62-57-27.user.auna.net] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@c3-dbn-87.absamail.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@c3-dbn-87.absamail.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-136-127.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #edubuntu === LinuxJones [n=willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ is now known as JaneW [10:42] hi all [10:43] mvo just told me that ogra's area has no network atm... === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 22:00 UTC Thursday 18 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting [11:14] *** reminder *** Edubuntu Update meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 45 minutes === rycks [n=rycks@tal33-3-82-233-80-49.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CC71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:01] meetint NOW in #u-m [12:01] meeting even === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu []