[01:36] <Madpilot> anyone here? just found this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpgradingToFirefox10  <-- thru Cleanup; it's badly out of date. Any opjections to just deleting it outright?
[01:39] <mgalvin> eww, delete it
[01:40] <mgalvin> that gotta be from warty... security updates have already brought ff 1.0.6 into warty
[01:41] <Madpilot> it's not linked to from anywhere, so into the trash with it!
[01:41] <Madpilot> and... it's gone.
[01:42] <Madpilot> one Cleanup item down, 175 to go! ;)
[03:33] <Flonne> mpt_, http://hamsterx.homelinux.org/~rhx/ubuntu-help-formatting addresses some of your requests.
[03:33] <Flonne> Let me know if you want me to change anything else, or if you want help writing/editing anything.
[06:05] <jsgotangco> hi
[06:05] <Madpilot> hi
[07:02] <jsgotangco> jdub, can i be on planet too?
[07:03] <jdub> jsgotangco: sure, send me your rss feed
[09:42] <mdke> morning
[09:42] <jsgotangco> hi
[09:45] <highvoltage> hi jsgotangco and mdke 
[09:48] <mdke> lo
[09:49] <Madpilot> hi all
[09:54] <highvoltage> mdke: lo 127.0.0.1
[09:56] <mdke> jsgotangco, any luck on styleguide?
[09:58] <jsgotangco> i havent started playing with the script yet i was too busy with edubuntu
[09:58] <jsgotangco> i will try later or just mail jeff
[09:58] <mdke> fair enough
[09:58] <mdke> i think mailing jeff is the best
[09:59] <jsgotangco> im about to burn colony 3 anytime now and install on the M2
[09:59] <mdke> ah cool
[10:01] <mdke> i'll mail the list about the pdf for styleguide
[10:01] <mdke> Sean will know something about it no doubt
[10:02] <jsgotangco> hmm nautilus cd burning won't let me select the burn speed heh
[10:51] <jsgotangco> ahhh lifeless maintains it
[08:45] <mdke> jeffsch, heya
[08:46] <jeffsch> howdy
[08:46] <mdke> let's sort out the styleguide thing while we're both here :)
[08:46] <jeffsch> okie doke
[08:46] <mdke> i was thinking you would add a "make all" target to the styleguide makefile, rather than the gnome one
[08:47] <mdke> cos the styleguide is not really a gnome doc, am i right?
[08:47] <jeffsch> i was thinking of getting rid of the styleguide makefile
[08:47] <mdke> oh
[08:47] <jeffsch> even though it's not a gnome doc,
[08:47] <mdke> whichever you prefer
[08:48] <mdke> right now I have the server calling the styleguide makefile and copying the stuff to root/styleguide
[08:48] <jeffsch> it would be easier to have it in the gnome makefile, no?
[08:48] <mdke> no problem for me
[08:49] <jeffsch> ok. that leaves the pdf problem
[08:49] <mdke> i think the address should be doc.ubuntu.com/styleguide though, rather than doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/styleguide
[08:49] <jeffsch> that make sense
[08:50] <mdke> so if you get it building to build/styleguide that will be fine
[08:51] <jeffsch> hmmm... it does already, i thought
[08:51] <mdke> certainly the make html from styleguide/makefile does
[08:52] <mdke> ok so the pdf problem
[08:52] <mdke> is it not possible to get the pdf built without java/fop?
[08:52] <jeffsch> yeah, i just tested it. in ubuntu-doc/gnome, make sg puts the files in ubuntu-doc/build/styleguide
[08:52] <jeffsch> yes, it is possible to build the style guide without fop
[08:53] <jeffsch> docbook2pdf, in the docbook-utils package
[08:53] <mdke> so can we use that?
[08:53] <jeffsch> sure, no problem.
[08:54] <jeffsch> the styleguide pdf (in theory, anyway) only gets built once per release, so i never paid much attention to it in the make files
[09:15] <mdke> jeffsch, if you're still here, sorry about that: fuse blew
[09:16] <jeffsch> wow. i had no idea you were angry!
[09:16] <jeffsch> hehe
[09:16] <mdke> ;)
[09:17] <mdke> lost all plugs
[09:17] <mdke> all well now
[09:18] <jeffsch> the other day, somebody complained about the state of their power grid. I thought to myself "hehe, my power hasn't gone down for over a year"
[09:18] <jeffsch> two hours later. bam!. no power. 
[09:19] <jeffsch> that'll learn me :)
[09:19] <mdke> did i miss anything?
[09:19] <jeffsch> nope
[09:19] <mdke> ok the last question was, can we use the docbook-utils thing for the styleguide pdf?
[09:21] <jeffsch> ah wait, i lied about you missing something... hold on...
[09:21] <jeffsch> [11:53]  <jeffsch> sure, no problem
[09:21] <jeffsch> [11:54]  <jeffsch> the styleguide pdf (in theory, anyway) only gets built once per release, so i never paid much attention to it in the make files
[09:21] <jeffsch> [12:12]  <-- mdke has left this server. (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[09:22] <mdke> good point
[09:22] <mdke> ok maybe just build it yourself and commit it, I'll copy it to the server?
[09:23] <jeffsch> ok, I'll stick into the build/styleguide directory
[09:23] <mdke> ok
[09:23] <mdke> the html is already there
[09:23] <mdke> (on the server)
[09:25] <jeffsch> wait. how about I mail it to you? if I put into the build/styleguide directory, it will get deleted during the next make all
[09:25] <mdke> put it in styleguide/
[09:25] <mdke> or is it big?
[09:26] <mdke> tbh I think it's worth having in the repo so people can read it
[09:29] <mdke> jeffsch, what do you think?
[09:29] <jeffsch> ok, i will put it in styleguide/. it's less than 45k
[09:30] <mdke> cool
[09:30] <mdke> bing me when you have and I'll copy it over
[09:30] <jeffsch> i just committed it now
[09:31] <jeffsch> rev 1609
[09:31] <mdke> done
[09:32] <mdke> http://65.19.178.132/styleguide/
[09:32] <mdke> nice work man
[09:33] <jeffsch> so, we can adjust the projects page to point to this stuff now?
[09:34] <mdke> hmm
[09:34] <mdke> still waiting on a domain name
[09:34] <jeffsch> ah
[09:34] <mdke> gnome/ and kde/ have been there for ages, they build daily
[09:35] <mdke> just haven't got a domain name so haven't adjusted the projects page
[09:35] <jeffsch> yeah, best to wait for the domain name