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lamont | fabbione: util-linux built, just need to do some more testing, and then upload/merge/upload | 12:55 |
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BenC | lamont: how invasive are the hppa patches for other architectures? | 12:57 |
BenC | I noticed most of the changes outside of hppa are related to types, do these really affect non-hppa, or is it just mostly non-changes when compiled on something other than hppa? | 12:58 |
lamont | BenC: it was "scary" - so we left them separate. | 01:08 |
lamont | I know that people have built i386 kernels from the hppa tree with no ill effects | 01:08 |
lamont | dunno how recently, thouhg | 01:08 |
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lamont | back on in about 4.5 hours. | 01:09 |
fabbione | BenC: i did rename some of the patches to match our name convetion. they are all at the end of the 00list-7.11 in the same order as mjg59 did push them to us | 05:13 |
fabbione | so they are pretty simple to identify | 05:14 |
fabbione | i didn't remove the old patches yet.. i tend to keep such big changes around easily reversible for at least one release | 05:22 |
BenC | hey | 06:36 |
fabbione | hey Ben | 06:36 |
BenC | the acpi doesn't compile, so I am figuring out why | 06:37 |
fabbione | yes i am looking at it too | 06:37 |
BenC | got access to concordia, so I am doing builds there | 06:37 |
fabbione | the toshiba acpi is one of them | 06:37 |
BenC | the one place I found is the toshiba | 06:37 |
fabbione | eheh so am i :) | 06:37 |
fabbione | # CONFIG_INPUT_ACERHK is not set | 06:38 |
fabbione | this needs to be N on amd64... | 06:38 |
fabbione | klibc_1.0.14-1ubuntu1_sparc.changes ACCEPTED | 06:39 |
fabbione | finally! | 06:39 |
fabbione | we can install kernels on sparc again | 06:39 |
fabbione | ok.. removing toshiba and setting ACER=n on amd64, it builds... | 06:39 |
fabbione | BenC: did you get access to davis and halley too? | 06:39 |
BenC | no | 06:40 |
BenC | btw, I am doing i386 build | 06:40 |
BenC | does the toshiba need to be working on i386? | 06:41 |
lamont | fabbione: wanna test a util-linux for me? | 06:43 |
fabbione | BenC: it doesn't build on amd64.. and it should on i386 at least | 06:45 |
fabbione | lamont: sure.. | 06:45 |
lamont | deb http://people.debian.org/~lamont/util-linux / | 06:45 |
lamont | it's the debian version of hwclock*.sh, I need to go make the ubuntu changes again | 06:45 |
fabbione | i guess that requires a reboot to verify that it works.. but it's ok.. | 06:46 |
fabbione | i can do it | 06:46 |
lamont | if it's happy, I'll bump it to -6 and upload | 06:46 |
fabbione | lamont: happy to what degree? | 06:47 |
fabbione | that it doesn't hang at boot? | 06:47 |
fabbione | or that it works? | 06:47 |
lamont | pretty much - It'd be nice to know that hwclock*.sh are spitting things out in some semblance of good format | 06:48 |
fabbione | ok... | 06:48 |
lamont | and that ocfs2 works | 06:48 |
fabbione | lamont: ocfs2 will have to wait that i upload the next kernel | 06:49 |
fabbione | and upgrade the laptop | 06:49 |
fabbione | it's in a special setup that initrd doesn't handle and that initramfs should... | 06:50 |
fabbione | but the guy that did push the patch is good.. | 06:50 |
jbailey | fabbione: Eh? | 06:50 |
fabbione | jbailey: it's that setup in which i have /boot on IDE and / on usb.. | 06:51 |
fabbione | remember i was talking about sleep N in initrd? | 06:51 |
fabbione | because scsi over usb takes time to init.. | 06:51 |
jbailey | Hmm. | 06:52 |
jbailey | I have a sleep 2 after the PCI bus for the USB bus to populate. | 06:52 |
jbailey | Is that not enough for this? | 06:52 |
fabbione | + if / is on subsystem foo, and /boot on bar, bar doesn't get included in the initrd | 06:52 |
fabbione | jbailey: in the initrd there is no sleep | 06:52 |
fabbione | i didn't check initramfs yet | 06:52 |
jbailey | initramfs has a sleep2 | 06:52 |
jbailey | Otherwisie it goes by way too fast. | 06:52 |
fabbione | and as i said i need to upgrade it when i have time to recover in case of mess | 06:52 |
fabbione | right now i am just too busy | 06:52 |
desrt | jbailey; since switching to initramfs i'm getting a lot of warnings during startup | 06:53 |
desrt | jbailey; you probably know about these? | 06:53 |
jbailey | desrt: Depends on the warning. =) | 06:54 |
fabbione | lamont: is util-linux enough for the clock thingy? | 06:54 |
desrt | lvm | 06:54 |
fabbione | or do i need to upgrade all of them | 06:54 |
jbailey | desrt: AFAIK there should be no lvm warnings. | 06:54 |
desrt | i don't remember exactly... but it's something about can't initialise volume group sda1 | 06:54 |
fabbione | desrt: LVM tends to spit out gratuitous warnings | 06:55 |
desrt | nod. it certainly has no effect on my system successfully booting | 06:55 |
fabbione | nope.. that's probably lvscan or something | 06:55 |
fabbione | that hits automatically all the devices | 06:56 |
lamont | util-linux is enough for the clock | 06:57 |
lamont | mount is enough for ocfs2 | 06:57 |
fabbione | lamont: ok.. i will be able to test ocfs2 probably tomorrow | 06:57 |
fabbione | and mount immediatly.. for regressions | 06:58 |
fabbione | if there are no regressions, can you upload and i will test after? | 06:58 |
lamont | fabbione: yes | 07:00 |
lamont | the best part is that the diff between debian/ubuntu is now minimized | 07:00 |
fabbione | lamont: ehehe | 07:01 |
fabbione | Setting up util-linux (2.12p-5.1) ... | 07:01 |
fabbione | Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh ... | 07:01 |
fabbione | Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/hwclockfirst.sh ... | 07:01 |
fabbione | BenC: i will start test builds on ppc and ia64... | 07:01 |
jbailey | fabbione: When is your next kernel upload? | 07:01 |
fabbione | sparc can wait a bit given that there is no ACPI :) | 07:01 |
fabbione | jbailey: soon.. | 07:01 |
fabbione | jbailey: and it will be my last kernel upload :) | 07:02 |
jbailey | I need one with the DSDT patch in it. | 07:02 |
fabbione | jbailey: than you have more or less today to give me the patch | 07:02 |
fabbione | brb | 07:02 |
jbailey | Lovely. That's sometime in the next 24 hours, right? =) | 07:03 |
lamont | fabbione: 69 lines of diff -u atm, the first 39 of which are changelog | 07:07 |
lamont | hrm... oops. | 07:07 |
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lamont | fabbione: I'm going to sleep now, but when I wake up, I'll see about uploading | 07:15 |
lamont | or will you be done playing with ocfs2 then? | 07:15 |
jbailey | Yup, bedtime here too. | 07:17 |
jbailey | fabbione: When I get up in the morning I'll do a test build of the kernel. I think I have a patch that will work (It's one I tested before, but I want to do another round of testing) | 07:18 |
jbailey | fabbione: I need to know how you do your massive ccache speedups, though, if possible. The build time on the kernel is bloody forever. | 07:18 |
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fabbione | re | 07:31 |
fabbione | lamont-away: i hope i will be able to test ocfs2 before you wake up | 07:31 |
fabbione | jbailey: i just use ccache in the normal way | 07:32 |
fabbione | the speed up is done by export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL in your env | 07:32 |
fabbione | that's like passing make -j$VALUE | 07:32 |
fabbione | if your ccache is populated, you will switch to disk I/O | 07:32 |
fabbione | that's up to your disk at that point | 07:32 |
fabbione | and yes.. within the next my 24hours | 07:32 |
fabbione | that means when i will wake up tomorrow there must be a patch | 07:33 |
fabbione | RIDE THE SPLIT! GO FEENODE! | 08:06 |
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fabbione | mjg59: up till now the only failure i get is the toshiba ACPI on amd64 | 08:18 |
fabbione | it builds on i386 tho | 08:18 |
fabbione | i still need to hit ppc64 | 08:19 |
fabbione | ia64 looks good | 08:19 |
fabbione | hmmm | 08:20 |
fabbione | i386 just farted | 08:20 |
fabbione | the toshiba patch is borked | 08:36 |
fabbione | drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.c: In function `toshiba_acpi_init': | 08:41 |
fabbione | drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.c:878: error: `status2' undeclared (first use in this function) | 08:41 |
fabbione | drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.c:878: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once | 08:41 |
fabbione | drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.c:878: error: for each function it appears in.) | 08:41 |
fabbione | lamont-away: it seems that hwclock did work fine here. | 08:42 |
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fabbione | lamont-away: OCFS2 test passed | 10:22 |
fabbione | you are good to go | 10:22 |
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doko | fabbione: 12708, our linux-source builds are fine building XFS modules? | 11:44 |
fabbione | doko: our kernel builds with 3.4 | 11:45 |
fabbione | and we build XFS | 11:45 |
fabbione | i have no idea with 4.0 | 11:45 |
fabbione | last build i did was a long while back | 11:45 |
doko | fabbione: hmm, where do I set the compiler version for the debian build? | 11:55 |
fabbione | doko: to do what? | 11:56 |
fabbione | right now if you want to use the default compiler just stop applying the patch that forces gcc-3.4 | 11:56 |
doko | ok | 11:56 |
fabbione | mjg59: wake up dude... | 11:58 |
doko | bah, doesn't get to the modules ... | 11:59 |
fabbione | told you... | 11:59 |
fabbione | we don't support kernel compilation with 4.0 | 12:00 |
fabbione | that's it.. | 12:00 |
fabbione | he needs to get over it | 12:00 |
doko | hmm, close the report? | 12:00 |
fabbione | doko: NOTABUG | 12:01 |
fabbione | it's not a supported combination | 12:01 |
doko | done | 12:02 |
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fabbione | *** Warning: "acpi_ec_read" [drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.ko] undefined! | 01:02 |
fabbione | this is on amd64 | 01:03 |
fabbione | mjg59: WAKE UP DUDE? | 01:03 |
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fabbione | AHHHHHHHH | 01:19 |
fabbione | dpatch sucks | 01:19 |
fabbione | the toshiba thing doesn't work, because the patch doesn't apply, and there is no error reported | 01:20 |
mjg59 | fabbione: Ho | 01:28 |
fabbione | 2 dpatches generate .rej | 01:28 |
fabbione | and dpatch doesn't catch them | 01:28 |
fabbione | i noticed by mistake | 01:28 |
mjg59 | Oh. Fun. Which ones? | 01:29 |
fabbione | one is the toshiba.. | 01:29 |
fabbione | i am trying to find the other.. | 01:29 |
fabbione | in fact the reject bit was int status2; | 01:30 |
fabbione | that's exactly why we were getting the above failures | 01:30 |
mjg59 | That is weird. It applied fine here. | 01:30 |
mjg59 | Bah. | 01:30 |
fabbione | yeah it applies fine here too | 01:30 |
fabbione | expect that there is a .rej | 01:30 |
fabbione | now it did build perfectly.. | 01:30 |
mjg59 | Weird | 01:31 |
fabbione | now it builds fine :) | 01:33 |
mjg59 | Hurrahj | 01:33 |
Mithrandir | jbailey: is suspend to disk supposed to work with initramfs? It seems extraordinarily unstable for me. | 01:36 |
fabbione | MUHA MUHA MUHA | 01:37 |
jbailey | Mithrandir: works on my laptop. What problem are you having? | 01:37 |
fabbione | the last rej hunk is the missing exported symbol that was causing the above | 01:37 |
Mithrandir | jbailey: spits out "a" six times then sits around for a while doing nothing. | 01:37 |
jbailey | Mithrandir: At what point? | 01:37 |
Mithrandir | jbailey: just after loading the kernel. Checking if I can reproduce it now | 01:38 |
jbailey | Mithrandir: Basically, all suspend to disk does is pokes the major:minor into /sys/power/resume or something like that. | 01:38 |
mjg59 | Mithrandir: "a"s are from usplash | 01:38 |
mjg59 | Mithrandir: Try without quiet/splash | 01:38 |
jbailey | Mithrandir: So from a running system, check to make sure it's set to where your swap is. | 01:38 |
jbailey | Mithrandir: If it is, all further problems are not initramfs. | 01:39 |
fabbione | jbailey: initramfs is still too fast for / over scsi over USB | 01:39 |
Mithrandir | well, now it resumed (As in, got the state off disk), then gave me a screen reverse-video screen with the cursor blinking on it. | 01:40 |
jbailey | Mithrandir: Can you ssh to it? It would be worth knowing whether that's a video refresh issue or a fucked-machine issue. | 01:41 |
jbailey | fabbione: Can you take a look and tell me where you need pauses added? Since I don't have that setup, all I'd be doing is guessing. | 01:41 |
Mithrandir | jbailey: no ping, caps lock doesn't work. | 01:42 |
mjg59 | jbailey: There's no way of knowing for sure how long USB will take to populate | 01:42 |
fabbione | jbailey: scripts/functions.. i added a sleep 5 before and after calling scsi-$something.. | 01:42 |
jbailey | mjg59: What's the right solution? | 01:42 |
mjg59 | Mithrandir: 2.6.12? | 01:42 |
fabbione | at the end of functions | 01:42 |
Mithrandir | mjg59: yes. | 01:42 |
fabbione | jbailey: just a sec and i will be more precise | 01:43 |
mjg59 | Mithrandir: PM is generally broken on our 2.6.12. Wait for the one fabbione is currently building. | 01:43 |
Mithrandir | mjg59: ok | 01:43 |
mjg59 | jbailey: If the root device hasn't appeared and looks like it might be USB, spend a while spinning? | 01:43 |
jbailey | fabbione: If you look in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions | 01:43 |
fabbione | jbailey: yes.. it's in there.. but just one sec. i am powering it on | 01:43 |
jbailey | fabbione: TThe load_modules function is the one you want. Currently I have: | 01:44 |
jbailey | # Give the USB bus a moment to catch up | 01:44 |
jbailey | sleep 2 | 01:44 |
fabbione | jbailey: it's a bit after that | 01:44 |
fabbione | if you can wait a minute that's booting.. | 01:44 |
jbailey | Sure. =) | 01:44 |
fabbione | done | 01:45 |
fabbione | ide_boot_events | 01:45 |
fabbione | scsi_boot_events | 01:45 |
fabbione | } | 01:45 |
fabbione | i did add sleep 5 before scsi_boot_events | 01:45 |
fabbione | and for sake 5 after | 01:45 |
jbailey | And that still wasn't enough? | 01:45 |
fabbione | that gives enough time for the disk to appear in /sys | 01:45 |
jbailey | Oh ouch. =( | 01:45 |
fabbione | i did only one test adding 5 at the same time | 01:46 |
fabbione | otherwise scsi and usb-storage are probed | 01:46 |
fabbione | but not sd_mod | 01:46 |
jbailey | So you shouldn't need the 5 after, I think. | 01:46 |
fabbione | mostlikely not.. | 01:46 |
jbailey | Is there no way to tell that the bus is still scanning? | 01:46 |
fabbione | but since i didn't read all the code | 01:46 |
fabbione | dunno.. | 01:47 |
fabbione | i will need to investigate that | 01:47 |
fabbione | but that's not todays stuff | 01:47 |
jbailey | Ayup | 01:47 |
jbailey | Erp, the concordia i386 chroot doesn't have kernel-wedge and stuff installed? | 01:51 |
fabbione | yes it does | 01:51 |
fabbione | linux32 dchroot -c breezy-i386 | 01:51 |
jbailey | Doh. | 01:51 |
jbailey | I'm in hoary-i386 | 01:51 |
jbailey | my bad | 01:51 |
fabbione | jbailey: if you can give me a few more minutes.. i have almost done with concordia | 01:51 |
fabbione | and i can hand over to you a kernel source | 01:52 |
jbailey | Cool. I'm just going to make sure the patch applies cleanly to what I've got right now. | 01:52 |
fabbione | jbailey: wait.. what you got there is ages behind | 01:54 |
fabbione | you are really going to waste your time | 01:54 |
fabbione | i so much have the feeling that i am going to regret the next patch i will apply... | 01:55 |
fabbione | mjg59: do you have the SATA GO FUCK YOUR SELF SLEEP AND RESUME patch for 2.6.12? | 02:01 |
fabbione | because the one i got yesterday doesn't apply | 02:01 |
fabbione | and i don't plan to rediff all that stuff | 02:02 |
fabbione | i know.. i know i am going to regret to add this patch... | 02:02 |
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fabbione | jbailey: i am doing the last test build for today.. and i can give you the source. | 02:12 |
fabbione | it's tested only ONE flavour on amd64 | 02:13 |
mjg59 | fabbione: Nope. I'll generate you one now. | 02:13 |
fabbione | it means that it might not build on other arches | 02:13 |
jbailey | fabbione: Lovely. | 02:14 |
jbailey | Where do I find it? | 02:14 |
fabbione | jbailey: as soon as i am done i will tell you and it will be on concordia | 02:14 |
jbailey | fabbione: Do you know about how long? | 02:15 |
fabbione | jbailey: 10 minutes? | 02:15 |
jbailey | Cool. | 02:15 |
mjg59 | fabbione: Mailed | 02:16 |
fabbione | mjg59: building... | 02:18 |
mjg59 | fabbione: Cool | 02:19 |
fabbione | * Add experimental sata suspend remove support (it clearly cannot be worst | 02:21 |
fabbione | than it is now): | 02:21 |
fabbione | - Add patch external-experimental-sata_suspend-resume.dpatch. | 02:21 |
fabbione | michele: you got your patch.. now.. next time i pass by italy, you will offer me a beer | 02:21 |
michele | fabbione, let's make them two :) | 02:23 |
fabbione | michele: where do you live in italy? | 02:23 |
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zul | heylo | 02:26 |
michele | fabbione, treviso | 02:27 |
michele | where are you from? | 02:28 |
fabbione | ah | 02:28 |
fabbione | michele: i am from Rome, but i have relatices in Venice.. | 02:28 |
fabbione | hey zul | 02:28 |
fabbione | relatvies even | 02:28 |
fabbione | i pass by that area quite often | 02:28 |
michele | ok, let me know next time :) (micampe@micampe.it) | 02:29 |
michele | and well'have a beer or something | 02:29 |
fabbione | michele: yeah.. it won't be before Xmas | 02:30 |
michele | ok, let's hope I'm not in france by then :) | 02:30 |
fabbione | what?? NO BEERS? | 02:31 |
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fabbione | jbailey: building the latest diff.gz for you right now... | 02:31 |
michele | ahah | 02:31 |
michele | fabbione, I'll make sure you'll have your beers before leaving | 02:32 |
fabbione | eheh | 02:32 |
michele | anyway... when will that kernel be packaged and distributed? | 02:32 |
fabbione | no later than monday | 02:32 |
michele | ok. colony 3 looks decent, I might try to install it | 02:33 |
zul | fabbione: sata patch sucked? | 02:36 |
fabbione | zul: yeah.. | 02:36 |
fabbione | i know i will regret it for the rest of my life | 02:36 |
zul | figured | 02:36 |
fabbione | but this is my last kernel upload.. or at least i hope so | 02:36 |
fabbione | so BenC will hunt me down to death at the next Ubuntu conference | 02:37 |
chmj | I'll help him | 02:37 |
fabbione | jbailey: uploading now to concordia | 02:37 |
fabbione | nah i will still be around till breezy release | 02:37 |
fabbione | and probably after for the cluster stuff | 02:37 |
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jbailey | fabbione: You off kernel stuff completely? | 02:38 |
fabbione | jbailey: almost :) | 02:38 |
chmj | fabbione: you leaving kernel for userspace ? | 02:38 |
fabbione | it's not my decision, but i agree with who made it.. | 02:38 |
fabbione | the insanometer is out of scale here | 02:38 |
michele | fabbione, will you regret even after my delightful beers? | 02:39 |
michele | home-brewed just for you! | 02:40 |
fabbione | michele: the dark side of the force phear you must | 02:40 |
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zul | fabbione: so ill tell benc to where to get my stuff whee.. | 02:47 |
fabbione | zul: sure.. | 02:51 |
fabbione | i did merge your last stuff yesterday... | 02:51 |
fabbione | it's in for the next upload | 02:51 |
fabbione | but i remember you did a lot of patches while i was in holidays | 02:51 |
fabbione | you didn't port them to 7.11, did you? | 02:51 |
zul | fabbione: no they were changes to the ide subsystem | 03:03 |
fabbione | hm ok... | 03:03 |
zul | they were backported from .13 so im not sure if we want them there or not | 03:04 |
fabbione | hmmm | 03:04 |
fabbione | i would have to see them again... | 03:05 |
fabbione | probably it's not a good idea to merge too much from head | 03:05 |
zul | yeah i was thinking that | 03:19 |
zul | ill send you them tonight..it was just two patches though | 03:20 |
zul | both from fedora that got merged into head | 03:20 |
zul | both from alan cox | 03:25 |
fabbione | ok | 03:26 |
fabbione | i will look at them tomorrow morning | 03:26 |
fabbione | i have Danish class later | 03:26 |
zul | okie dokie | 03:33 |
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BenC | how do I revert a changed file in baz? | 04:14 |
fabbione | BenC: hey.. | 04:15 |
fabbione | did you already commit the file? | 04:15 |
BenC | hey | 04:15 |
BenC | no | 04:15 |
BenC | need to revert to get your changes | 04:15 |
fabbione | are there more changes or only that one? | 04:15 |
BenC | just that one | 04:15 |
fabbione | baz undo | 04:15 |
BenC | ok | 04:16 |
fabbione | note that it will create a ,,LONGDIRECTORYNAME that you can safely remove | 04:16 |
fabbione | BenC: i did fix all the ACPI stuff | 04:16 |
fabbione | it builds everywhere.. | 04:16 |
fabbione | we need to re-test build, save the ABI files and we are ready to upload.. | 04:16 |
fabbione | what time is it now where you live? | 04:17 |
BenC | 10am | 04:17 |
fabbione | do you think you can come tomorrow at 8am? | 04:17 |
BenC | yeah | 04:17 |
fabbione | so we can do the upload stuff together | 04:18 |
BenC | 10:20am I mean | 04:18 |
fabbione | and i will drive your trough the baz dance | 04:18 |
fabbione | yeah.. | 04:18 |
BenC | sure thing | 04:18 |
fabbione | and how to start the new release | 04:18 |
fabbione | so after that you can take over.. | 04:18 |
fabbione | or almost :) | 04:18 |
fabbione | we are waiting for a patch from jbailey | 04:19 |
fabbione | to attach DSTS to initramfs | 04:19 |
fabbione | that's the latest missing code for 7.11 in what was my list | 04:19 |
fabbione | if you have more, go ahead and add it today | 04:19 |
fabbione | tomorrow i will do the build orgy everywhere | 04:20 |
lamont-away | fabbione: woot! | 04:20 |
fabbione | if you have time to test the kernel, that would be very good too... | 04:20 |
fabbione | lamont-away: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/OCFS2-1.1.0.png | 04:21 |
fabbione | now gimme the util-linux crack :) | 04:21 |
fabbione | anyway i am off for the next 4 hours and 30.. probably more | 04:22 |
fabbione | danish class will start soon :) | 04:22 |
fabbione | and i will pass by again | 04:22 |
fabbione | lamont-away: in case, can you help BenC with baz while i am not around? | 04:22 |
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fabbione | later guys | 04:24 |
fabbione | lamont-away: you also want to check that hppa still applies properly to 7.11 | 04:24 |
fabbione | i had no time to look at it | 04:24 |
lamont-away | fabbione: uploading util-linux, then I have a task to do here, and off to the office. | 04:27 |
lamont-away | will do my best to help BenC if I'm here. | 04:27 |
BenC | lamont-away: maybe you can help me get my hppa installed :) | 04:28 |
lamont-away | that's easier. | 04:29 |
lamont-away | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/ubuntu-hppa/tree is a hoary archive for hppa | 04:30 |
lamont-away | alternatively, you start with a sarge install, and then dist-upgrade it to breezy with a few well placed --reinstall's as needed. | 04:30 |
lamont-away | still no d-i for hppa/ubuntu | 04:30 |
BenC | I have woody on my hppa, so maybe that wil work | 04:31 |
lamont-away | should - dist-upgrade to hoary, then dist-upgrade to breezy (dunno if you can skip...) | 04:31 |
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BenC | can someone else look at bug 3117 and tell me if that looks like an acpi problem, perhaps something with cpu frequency changes for power saving? | 05:36 |
mjg59 | That's an unusual one. | 05:58 |
infinity | Hrm, I have a machine that does on-demand frequency scaling, and I've never seen the clock skew like that. | 05:58 |
mjg59 | Normally excessive work results in missed timer interrupts and a slower clock | 05:58 |
infinity | In fact, most of us do. | 05:58 |
infinity | I'm willing to bet mjg59 has a few dozen. :) | 05:59 |
mjg59 | "I'm seeing this behavior on a brand new Dell so I don't think it's due to crappy | 05:59 |
mjg59 | hardware." ha ha ha | 05:59 |
mjg59 | Oh - if it's related to spread spectrum stuff, then it probably is broken hardware | 05:59 |
mjg59 | The idea there is to change all the clocks slightly to reduce RF interference | 06:00 |
mjg59 | Which tends to break stuff | 06:00 |
infinity | Spread spectrum is such utter crack. | 06:01 |
infinity | When my phone rings, all the monitors in the house shake, but clearly I should be concerned about the tiny amount of RF interference from my RAM. | 06:02 |
BenC | mjg59: so is there a workaround other than telling people to disable spread spectrum? | 06:06 |
mjg59 | BenC: Not that I know of. It's not something that's ever hit me. | 06:07 |
BenC | damn | 06:12 |
BenC | even google searching just says "disable spread spectrum" | 06:12 |
BenC | even the NTP site says to do it | 06:12 |
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jbailey | BenC: ping? | 07:51 |
jbailey | mjg59: Hey, something that might interest you... | 07:52 |
mjg59 | jbailey: Mm? | 07:52 |
jbailey | mjg59: The way I'm doing the DSDT replacement, I suspect that it's happening early enough to repalce other tables if you need. | 07:52 |
mjg59 | jbailey: Ah | 07:53 |
mjg59 | Hmm. In principle that's useful, but there's very few cases where people have broken other tables | 07:53 |
jbailey | 'k, no worries. | 07:53 |
mjg59 | jbailey: You've seen the problems some people seem to be having with booting on Colony 3? | 07:54 |
jbailey | If it comes up during LaptopTesting, though, I suspect it's an option. | 07:54 |
mjg59 | Excellent | 07:54 |
jbailey | mjg59: Blank consoles and whatnot? | 07:54 |
mjg59 | jbailey: Failing to mount the root filesystem and dropping to a shell | 07:54 |
jbailey | Hmm, generally on ubuntu-devel@ or in the channel? | 07:54 |
jbailey | I've been tring to follow the list and haven't seen much there. | 07:54 |
mjg59 | The list | 07:55 |
jbailey | Ah, small pile of messages from this morning. | 07:55 |
jbailey | I'll read them | 07:55 |
jbailey | The lilo issue I know about and think I have a fix for. | 07:56 |
jbailey | Dunno about the people specifying a device and it not being there. Probably just a missing driver. | 07:56 |
jbailey | Anyone here use VmWare? | 07:57 |
mjg59 | jbailey: Oh, yes. I had an issue with a missing driver | 08:00 |
mjg59 | It didn't pull in my IDE module | 08:00 |
mjg59 | I suspect that the logic for grabbing device drivers is faulty | 08:00 |
jbailey | mjg59: The list that's included is a flat list right now. | 08:00 |
mjg59 | jbailey: Ah! | 08:01 |
jbailey | I'm going to play with autogenerating it. | 08:01 |
mjg59 | jbailey: Well, it's incomplete :) | 08:01 |
jbailey | Which module are you missing, though, in the meantime? | 08:01 |
mjg59 | atiixp | 08:01 |
mjg59 | Looks like various SATA and SCSI ones may be missing | 08:01 |
jbailey | Quite possibly. | 08:01 |
jbailey | BenC: Whenever you're back, the initramfs DSDT patch is in my homedir on concordia and is called drivers-acpi-osl_attach-dsdt-to-initrd.dpatch | 08:06 |
jbailey | BenC: It just replaces the current version of that patch. | 08:07 |
jbailey | BenC: I have tested it booting with and without it replacing the DSDT from the DSDT.aml file in the initramfs | 08:07 |
fabbione | ah finally good news | 09:40 |
zul | hmmm? | 09:42 |
fabbione | the patch from jb | 09:43 |
zul | ah | 09:43 |
zul | well im heading home | 09:53 |
zul | c ya later | 09:53 |
fabbione | later | 09:54 |
lamont | fabbione: as you may note, new util-linux for you | 10:34 |
lamont | rather, -6ubuntu1 is in the archvie | 10:34 |
fabbione | lamont: thanks... | 10:37 |
fabbione | i saw that.. | 10:37 |
lamont | fabbione: I haven't had time to play wiht 7.11 on hppa | 10:54 |
fabbione | i will try a test build tomorrow | 10:55 |
lamont | thansk | 10:55 |
BenC | jbailey: cool, thanks | 11:57 |
jbailey | BenC: Do you know when you're targetting an upload of it? | 11:58 |
BenC | fab wants to get the current 7.11 uploaded, and then turn thngs over to me tomorrow, so I suspect soon after that | 11:59 |
jbailey | Cool, so I don't need to stay up all night tonight watching for people complaining of things breaking. =) | 12:00 |
BenC | nope :) | 12:01 |
BenC | got the patch | 12:01 |
BenC | any certain order that this has to be applied in relation to the other acpi patches? | 12:02 |
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