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c0rrupt_im guessing your problem is12:00
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c0rrupt_you cant get into 1025x768 resolution right?12:00
ReleaseXc0rrupt_, no12:00
c0rrupt_then12:00
GNULinuxGeek<pestilence>  Thanks.  I wil suggest to the folks at Ubuntu that they provide a easy, GUI way to change the X,org config.  As root of course.12:00
c0rrupt_whats t3h prb12:01
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titaniumpestilence: hooray, that worked. thanks12:01
pestilencetitanium: good.12:01
pestilencetitanium: now, can you fix *my* apache problem :)12:01
titaniumpestilence: not likely i installed linux for the first time three days ago :O12:02
echylo:D12:02
theD3viLHow can i enable my infrared device?? lsusb show irDA is: Mobile Action Technology, Inc. MA-620 USB Infrared Adapter12:02
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funkyHati have a problem with certain text being invisible...12:02
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funkyHaton some web pages, and also in cedega12:02
pestilencetitanium: hehe :)12:03
geoff__how do i play wmv files?12:03
theD3viLgeoff__, with mplayer12:03
titaniumthis is definitely a good newbie question: i just ran the self extracting binary for the sun JDK from sun's website. it extracted everything to some random subfolder i was in at the time. all the needed files (ie javac) are there and working. where should i move things, and how do i add them to my path so i can type 'javac' anywhere and it will work? (go go multipart questions)12:03
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MrPocketswhy wont flash media player 7 load?12:04
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Revan999I can't get it to start gnome12:04
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mrstarkweatheryeah, I just got linux up and running...does anyone know where I can get a patch to run doom3?12:04
Revan999it gives me some type of error12:04
killahkoshaok so I got my xorg all configured and whatnot, got it to where the resolutions are "2048x1536 1024x768 800x600 640x480" and i got my vertical/hortizontal refresh plugged in correctly. But when I load up gnome the only resolutions I can select are 800x600 or 640x48012:05
geoff__mplayer says cant find codec for wmv...12:05
theD3viLmrstarkweather, patch??12:05
Goodspeed__ onaserver.no-ip.org12:05
theD3viLgeoff__, apt-get install w32codecs?12:05
Goodspeed__woohooo!12:05
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mrstarkweathererrr..plug-in whatever I have to dl to get doom3 working12:05
Goodspeed__all i need to do is place an html file in the www directory correct?12:06
pestilence!java12:06
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:06
Goodspeed__and i'll have a homepage?12:06
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Goodspeed__instead of a directory12:06
Goodspeed__lookup12:06
nophixGoodspeed_, bingo12:06
EBowleshow long is memtest supposed to take?12:06
Revan999I can't get X to work it gives me an error12:06
pestilencewow, that's complicated12:06
theD3viLmrstarkweather, you have to install Cedega... or doom3 is writen for linux???12:06
titaniumkillahkosha under monitor you have HorizSync and VertRefresh right?12:06
nophixEBowles, depends on how much memory12:06
EBowles160 gigs12:06
theD3viLRevan999, what its says?12:06
mrstarkweatheroh, alright12:06
mrstarkweatherthanks d3vil12:07
killahkoshatitanium, yep12:07
pestilencetitanium: i would just install it in /usr/lib/java, then setup symlinks in /usr/local/bin to anything you want12:07
killahkoshatitanium, I have those correct, I checked the manufacterer's page12:07
nophixEBowles, 160GB in ram?12:07
Revan999I am not sure , it moved to fast to see it all but it couldn't start it12:07
EBowles4 gigs in ram12:07
geoff__d3vil i  get - Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:07
geoff__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:07
geoff__is only available from another source12:07
geoff__E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate12:07
theD3viLmrstarkweather, .. is doom3 writen for linux?12:07
EBowlesany ideas?12:07
titaniumpestilence: what do you mean by 'install it'? just move the entire folder there?12:07
theD3viLgeoff__, extra reposities?12:07
pestilencetitanium: yup12:07
nophixno idea12:08
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pestilencetitanium: mkdir /usr/lib/java && mv jre-whatever /usr/lib/java12:08
zAo^which is better: xmule or amule??12:08
Dalamarhi, quick question; what kernel ver does the newest ubuntu release come with?12:08
pestilenceDalamar: 2.6.1012:08
theD3viLzAo^, what is different ?12:08
zAo^2.6.10-5-$ARCH12:09
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Dalamarokay thanks12:09
zAo^theD3viL, donno :)12:09
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theD3viLzAo^, you can ask what is different in amule and emule12:09
theD3viL:)12:09
zAo^lol true m8 :)12:09
Revan999ok someone just told me to try and type /usr/bin/gnome-session after I log in to get X to work12:09
Goodspeed__http://onaserver.no-ip.org/12:09
Goodspeed__someone try that12:10
Goodspeed__tell me if it works?12:10
Kyralmrstarkweather, I know for a fact that DOOM3 has a native Linux install12:10
mrstarkweatheryeah, and I was wondering where to get that12:10
rob_pGoodspeed:  works!12:10
Kyralit should be on the CD12:10
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mrstarkweatheraight, lemme try it12:10
theD3viLKyral, doom3 is native Linux???12:10
Kyralyah12:10
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Kyrallike Unreal Tournament 200412:11
theD3viLKyral, is it free?12:11
titaniumpestilence: well it's the JDK not the jre. it has a bunch of different folders inside the main folder (bin, demo, include, lib, man, jre).  for example i can't type 'man javac' and i can't use javac from any location. it's like it isn't installed properly12:11
Kyralno, you have to buy the game :P12:11
Dalamarhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Doom3 has all the info on gettting  it up including where to get the linux binaries .. was just reading it12:11
killahkoshaHow do I manually set my resolution since the Ubuntu gui thing for doing it won't let me select the resolutions I have configured?12:12
theD3viLKyral, like Wolfenstain Enemy Teritorry... which is free12:12
pestilencetitanium: very true. you will have to do some stuff to get it "installed properly"12:12
pestilence!java12:12
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:12
zerboxxIs there a program to help with rename multiple files similariy?12:12
killahkoshazerboxx, rename12:12
pestilencetitanium: follow ubotu's instructions12:12
theD3viLKyral, buy, yeah :)12:12
pestilencetitanium: it should work for the jdk too12:12
zerboxxkillahkosha: it's giving me errors, I was wondering if there was a gui type program12:12
KyraltheD3viL, you have to buy it, but like UT2k4 the Linux Installer is on the CD12:12
titaniumpestilence: i tried the wiki guide, it says to convert the .bin into a .deb but i tried that and it fails horribly. it says in the wiki "you may get this error, do this to fix it". i get the error and doing what it says to fix it didn't fix it. :P12:13
juanejanyone using xine?12:13
theD3viLKyral, on the CD? Which CD?12:13
juanejhow do i load .srt subtitles with xine-ui?12:13
Kyralthe INSTALL CD12:13
Kyralyou have to buy the game12:14
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theD3viLKyral, aha...but i must buy for Windows??12:14
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Kyralyes12:14
Kyralits all in one box12:14
theD3viLKyral, tnx :)12:15
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Kyralsee see?12:15
Kyralall in one box!12:15
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Kyralyou'll prolly have to mount it and execute the thing manually though12:15
Goodspeed__export EDITOR=gedit && sudo crontab -e12:16
Goodspeed__what does this mean?12:16
Goodspeed__and how would i do this in terminal?12:16
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Kyral....12:16
Elsidoxcan anyone tell me what packages I need for x to start?12:16
Goodspeed__im following ubuntuguide12:16
theD3viLKyral, i hope ut2k4 dont install cedega or stuff..for emulating12:16
Goodspeed__and it told me to do that12:16
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jogarigai bought a dlink g630 for my powerbook? how can i get it to work?12:16
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KyralGoodspeed_, cut and paste it into a terminal12:17
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Kyralit IS a terminal command12:17
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KyraltheD3viL, nope, it didn't for me12:17
theD3viLKyral, ql then..12:17
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Elsidoxcan anyone tell me what packages I need for x to start??12:17
Goodspeed__but i dont have gedit12:17
c0rrupt_o..012:17
KyralDo you run GNOME?12:17
deltronapt-get install gedit12:17
KyralOr KDE?12:17
deltronhehe12:17
Goodspeed__i have a server install of ubuntu12:18
jensbstupid newbie question: I added universe and multiverse to the package sources, but synaptic doesn't list stuff like mpg123... what am I doing wrong?12:18
omegI have a default Ubuntu 5.04 installation. How would I be able to run KDE on it, since I want to see how that UI works?12:18
KyralO_O12:18
nickrudElsidox, at a minimum, x-window-system-core, and a window manager (xfce4 or twm, for example)12:18
Kyralwow12:18
Goodspeed__haha12:18
Goodspeed__that threw you for a loop12:18
caldwell_when i boot with the breezy 2.6.12-amd64-generic kernel i get the following error and kernel panic.  any ideas?12:18
caldwell_/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:18
caldwell_Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)12:18
Elsidoxnickrud thank you.12:18
Kyralomeg, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:18
theD3viLSomeone know how to enable infrared?12:18
omegthanks12:18
omegWould that make it default?12:18
KyralGoodspeed_, then do you have nano? :P12:18
omegOr would I have the choice of selecting it at user boot?12:18
Goodspeed__yea but when i do that i get a blank document12:19
caldwell_i've mkinitrd'd several initrd images, but the same thing happens on all12:19
Kyralomeg, KDM will come up somewhere in the middle and ask you12:19
omegWow, 300 MB12:19
caldwell_if i boot 2.6.11, it's fine12:19
KyralGoodspeed_, prolly means nothing is there12:19
Kyralie: New document12:19
omegWait, so everytime I log on, it will ask me if I want Gnome or KDE?12:19
Kyralomeg, no12:19
Goodspeed__but it says theres supposed to be a file there12:19
Goodspeed__try running it and see what it does12:19
omegIt'll just set a default during installation, then12:19
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Kyralyou will be able to hit the "sessions" menu and pick if you wish12:20
omegAha12:20
omegThat's nice.12:20
Kyralbut it will log you into whatever you used last12:20
omegAre there any other UIs I can download? Like very low-resource ones?12:20
KyralGoodspeed_, I think that assumes you had a normal install12:20
Kyralomeg, fluxbox, Enlightenment, XFCE, blackbox...12:20
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caldwell_any ideas?12:21
titaniumanyone recently install the JDK in ubuntu?12:21
omegDo you know the commands for me to apt-get those, or could I find stuff like that in the Wiki?12:21
Kyralomeg, generally just the name12:21
Kyralso like sudo apt-get install fluxbox12:21
omegOkay12:21
omegThanks12:21
omeg:)12:21
Kyralso like sudo apt-get install xfce12:21
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pestilenceomeg: you prolly want xfce412:21
Kyralif it borks, then do an apt-cache search for it12:22
pestilenceomeg: as in, sudo apt-get install xfce412:22
omegYeah, alright.12:22
jogarigadoes anyone know how to install a dlink wireless card in ubuntu using a powerbook?12:22
omeg50% for Kubuntu... nice fast servers12:22
nophixhow long time should a normal fsck.ext3 take for a 77GB partition?12:22
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vladuz976anybody know how to transfer a domain to a desired server after purchasing?12:23
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LinuxJonesvladuz976, usually the isp hosting your website can change your dns for a small fee12:24
vladuz976LinuxJones, can i do it myself12:24
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LinuxJonesvladuz976, ok12:25
Goodspeed__how do i add something to startup?12:26
Goodspeed__or how do i add a script12:26
Goodspeed__so i dont ahve to type12:26
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Goodspeed__a long string of comamnds12:26
Goodspeed__to start my cs server?12:26
Ex-Cyberhow should I go about diagnosing unreliable/inconsistent performance on a dialup link? the connection seems to stall and drop to < 1KB/s routinely12:26
Goodspeed__so i dont have to type ./srchds_run -command -game cstrike -maxplayers 28 -map cs_assault12:27
Goodspeed__eveyrtime i want to start my server??12:27
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LinuxJonesGoodspeed__, does it require sudo to run the server ?12:27
Goodspeed__negative12:27
Goodspeed__i created a new user12:27
Goodspeed__to for the server12:27
Goodspeed__srds12:27
Ex-Cyberin fact, according to aptitude it seems to be dropping to exactly 891 bytes/sec12:27
codecainewhat's the command to show if a package is installed12:27
codecaine?12:27
nickrudtitanium, it's been a while, but I used these instructions for java sdk: http://martinfowler.com/bliki/DebianJava.html12:27
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LinuxJonesGoodspeed__, you can create an alias for it called startcs or whatever and it will run the commands for you12:28
rob_pvladuz976:  As long as the entity which you purchased it from, has a way for users to change the primary and secondary nameservers for their domains, you can do it yourself.12:28
Concord_Dawnhowdy everyone12:28
Concord_Dawnafter another fscking GRUB reinstall12:28
Goodspeed__is there a tutorial for that?12:28
nickrudtitanium, I used those on ubuntu.12:28
Concord_DawnI'm back.12:28
steven__hey can somebody make me a favor12:28
vladuz976rob_p, i am sure they have that, but i just put the server's ip in? i only have an account on that server, it is not mine12:28
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LinuxJonesGoodspeed__, put the command in ~/.bashrc there is an aliases section in there commented out for an example12:29
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Goodspeed__permission denied?12:29
rob_pvladuz976:  You need to make sure that the nameservers to which you point your domain, are authoritative for your domain.12:29
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LinuxJonesGoodspeed__, in your users home directory12:30
phaydedneed some help with php-mysql, lemme know if ya got time12:30
Goodspeed__ah ha!12:30
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LinuxJonesGoodspeed__, don't do it as root either :)12:30
vladuz976rob_p, ok, thanks12:30
steven__can somebody tell me if you see the phpinfo in 200.69.160.21112:30
rob_pvladuz976:  This means that they must have a zone file on record for your domain.  Anyway, good luck!12:30
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codecaineanyone in here tell me what command to use to see if a package is installed or not?  besides synaptic12:31
Goodspeed__i logged and logged back on under the user and i still get permission denied12:31
codecaineor aptitude12:31
titaniumi just got the jdk rpm and used alien to make a .deb, and then dpkg -i to install it... it's done and it didn't install it worth a damn. no manpages installed, nothing added to path, etc...12:32
nickrudcodecaine, apt-cache policy <pkg>12:32
mhzhas anyone here EVER synced a SonyEriccson T637??12:32
codecainenickrud, thx12:32
steven__can somebody tell me if you see the phpinfo in 200.69.160.21112:32
mhzhas anyone here EVER synced a SonyEriccson T637 (IrDA)??12:32
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steven__mhz: what is the meaning of sync12:33
ubuntuhello12:33
LinuxJonesubuntu, welcome12:33
ubuntuthx12:33
mhzsteven__: syncronize12:33
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codecainethey12:34
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codecainethey've got mysql 5.0 not php 5 yet though in testing12:34
shentujoin #ubuntu12:34
shentuhello12:34
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robotgeekmhz: irda, i dunno...though, bluetooth has been done12:34
phaydedcan someone help me.   I'm trying to setup phpWebSite for a user on my webserver (apache2, php4, mysql).  Everytime i try to configure phpWebSite, it tells me that i dont have the mysql php modules installed (which i beleive they are, i can use phpmyadmin to control mysql threw that php webpage)12:34
codecainesure12:35
codecainemake sure you install php4-mysql12:35
mhzrobotgeek: hmmm, bluetooh, eh? Ok, I give up. I'll have to buy a USB bluetooth sthing :)12:35
shentuanybody knows the root password after a fresh install of ubuntu?12:35
phaydedi did, multiple times12:35
nickrudshentu, none.12:35
phaydedwasnt sure if order mattered to i apt-get many differnt ways both that and php412:36
nickrud!rootsudo12:36
ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:36
shentuthanks nickrud12:36
mhzrobotgeek: plug and play? or it took a while?12:36
robotgeekmhz: i don't know if the irda on my laptop is supported even!12:36
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mhzrobotgeek: hehehe, me too12:36
codecaineshentu, you need to create on eif you want12:36
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robotgeekbtw, does anyone have a powerbook Tibook , and knows if the inbuilt microphone works/ or is supported by ubuntu?12:36
Chaotic_Realitydoes anyone here use thunderbird?  i checked the option to remember my password, but i changed my password and now it won't authenticate to the mail server and i'm not sure how to clear the password, or change it.12:37
shentuhi codecaine12:37
Chaotic_Realitytried recreating the account to no avail12:37
robotgeekChaotic_Reality: go to options, advanced, password12:37
shentudo you know the root password after a fresh install?12:38
codecaineshentu, hi12:38
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shentuI cannot config my system right after the fresh install.12:38
Chaotic_Realityrobotgeek, not there, but it lead me in the right place. heh edit->preferenced->advanced12:39
DanteAlighieridon't you just need to set the root pword?12:39
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shentuyes12:39
DanteAlighieriso set it via sudo12:39
robotgeekChaotic_Reality: :)12:39
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Goodspeed__how do i run .bashrc12:41
vladuz976how can i transform fc3 rpms to dpkg ?12:41
shentuDanteAlighieri, how to use sudo,12:41
Goodspeed__if i get permission denied12:41
Goodspeed__?12:41
DanteAlighieri!sudo12:41
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:41
nickrudGoodspeed__, you don't run bashrc, it's read whenever you log into a terminal12:41
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nickrudGoodspeed__, if you want to reread it, do source ~/.bashrc12:42
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iananyone have tomboy working in hoary?12:42
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laxisehi here ... just a small question ... if i wanna untar something ... what is the easiest comman to untar a directory to a new directory in the same folder12:43
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phaydedif a php webpage is tell me that i dont have the mysql php libraries installed, but another php mysql program (phpmyadmin) works with mysql, does that mean i have the libraries and theres another problem?12:44
n1xt3rGoodspeed: . ~/.bashrc12:44
FR500laxise: i would mkdir, then go to the directory and then tar zxvf /location/of/file/file12:44
laxisethx12:44
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PlutoPrimeNew ATI drivers released today12:45
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shentuthanks guys, got how to use sudo.12:45
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ginipighi guys, does anyone know if the apt-sources are primarily non-responsive or crazily slow?12:45
Concord_Dawnis there anyway to force logout a user?12:46
ginipigConcord_Dawn: hah, i asked the same q yesterday12:46
Goodspeed__nick i type that and i get permission denied12:47
Goodspeed__i need to add an alias to taht12:47
ginipigConcord_Dawn: no useful advice besides killing all shells that they're using12:47
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Concord_Dawnhm.12:47
Goodspeed__according to jones12:47
Concord_Dawntbh12:47
Concord_Dawnthat's a crappy way of doing it12:47
ginipigConcord_Dawn: well, duh :)12:47
Concord_Dawnlol12:47
Concord_Dawnany way to boot a user of SSH?12:47
Concord_Dawnlike force close their SSH session?12:47
nickrudGoodspeed__, ls -l ~/.bashrc, post just the answering line12:48
FR500Concord_Dawn: only one?12:48
redguyConcord_Dawn: there was a package in Debian in the lines of slash slay or something like that, it would killa all processes belonging to a user12:48
ginipigConcord_Dawn: /etc/init.d/ssh stop12:48
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robotgeekConcord_Dawn: kill the ssh process for that user12:48
FR500ginipig: better restart12:48
Concord_Dawntbh12:48
Goodspeed__it says /home/srds/.bashrc12:48
ginipigtbh12:48
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Concord_DawnThere's gotta be better ways to do that.12:48
ginipigFR500: yeah12:48
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nickrudGoodspeed__, I think I saw someone reminding you not to edit .bashrc as root, I wanted to check the permissions. There's more on that line12:49
redguyConcord_Dawn: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/slay.html see if its availible in Ubuntu12:49
iananyone here use tomboy?12:49
Goodspeed__negative and im not under root12:49
nickrud-rw-r--r--  1 aias aias 1523 2005-08-03 21:29 /home/aias/.bashrc12:50
nickrud that's mine, you should have similar, with srds in place of aias12:50
Concord_Dawnredguy, looks like it.12:50
Concord_DawnThere's nothing that says it isn't....12:50
Goodspeed__wait i typed nano .bashrc12:51
Goodspeed__so now can i add aliases?12:51
Goodspeed__i can open the file that way12:51
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nickrudGoodspeed__, yes, that's how you add aliases :)12:51
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Goodspeed__lol12:51
Goodspeed__ok12:51
Goodspeed__now how do i add aliases12:51
Goodspeed__i was told i need to do them12:51
Goodspeed__because i whenever i run my cs server12:52
Goodspeed__i need to type a long string of commands12:52
nickruda good one:   alias ac='apt-cache'12:52
Goodspeed__to start it12:52
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laxiseFR500: u wrote about tar to me ... what is the option -f for?? i read the man but did not become wiser12:52
nickrudso, put the commands you want to the right of the equals sign (between the ticks), and the command you want to use to the left12:52
Goodspeed__ahhh k12:52
gilvis there a program to convert rtf file into html ?12:53
redguynickrud: it tells tar to read from a file12:53
redguynickrud: since tar is something like Tape ARchiver12:53
DanteAlighierigilv: can't OpenOffice do that?12:53
nickrudredguy?12:53
redguynickrud?12:53
nickrudlol12:54
gilvDanteAlighieri: i found unrtf12:54
laxisedoes anyone know for what for the -f option in command tar is???12:54
Goodspeed__ok so this is what I do to start my half life 2 server i go to /usr/bin/steam/srcs_1/ and then i type ./srds_run -command -game cstrike -maxplayers 2812:54
Goodspeed__how do i do taht as an alias?12:54
phaydedwhen say a php web site calls the mysql server to connect, does it try threw port 3306?12:54
DanteAlighieri[1538]  <redguy> nickrud: it tells tar to read from a file12:54
surfduehow do i find out if im using xorg or xfree12:54
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surfdueis hoary using xorg or xfree?12:54
DanteAlighierinm12:55
robotgeeksurfdue: xorg12:55
funkyHatxorg12:55
redguynickrud: delay that explanation, -f specifies the file, the default is STDOUT12:55
nickrudhm, maybe alias hl='cd /usr/bin/steam/srcs_1/ && ./srds_run -command -game cstrike -maxplayers 28'12:55
surfduecommand not found12:55
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zyrosd12:55
Goodspeed__sounds good12:55
redguyDanteAlighieri: huh?12:55
Goodspeed__so then if i type hl it would run that?12:55
Goodspeed__and do i just put that at the bottom of .bashrc?12:56
rob_pConcord_Dawn:  You could do something like the following:  ps aux | grep sshd | egrep '^username'  which would get the process number of the ssh connection associated with username.  Then just kill that process.12:56
nickrudGoodspeed__, yes, and yes12:56
Goodspeed__sweet12:56
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SnakeBitehow can i see STDOUT or STDERR of some program?12:56
DanteAlighieriredguy: nm, I was repeating something you said to nikrud for the benefit of laxise12:56
surfduecan someone tell me a dvd player12:56
titaniumhow can i check how much disk space i have free through ssh?12:56
redguyDanteAlighieri: ah I can see it now12:56
nickrudah :)12:56
sorush20hellllooooooooooooo12:57
rob_ptitanium:  df -h12:57
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sorush20I'm back after two days..12:57
sorush20anyone here had problems with ndiswrapper12:57
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rox_i have a quick question12:57
vladuz976anyone know how to change displaymanger?12:57
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sorush20It turns out to get the card working you have to change four 0 (zeros) into four 1 (ones)12:58
rox_i'm installing my video driver and its telling me to exit the x server but when i did that it practically restarted my computer and i had to log back in...12:58
nickrudvladuz976, which one do you want?12:58
titaniumrob_p: thanks12:58
vladuz976nickrud, e17 entrance12:58
EBowleshow long is mtest supposed to take with 4 gigs of ram?12:58
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rob_ptitanium:  No prob :-)12:58
vladuz976nickrud, i installed it and it comes with a /etc/init.d/entrance file, i just don't know how to use it12:58
nickrudvladuz976, check for an Sxxentrance file in /etc/rc2.d first12:59
rox_does anyone know how to exit the x server so i can install my graphics card?12:59
vladuz976nickrud, not there01:00
funkyHatrox_, is it an nvidia card?01:00
rox_yep01:00
rox_the readme just says exit the x server01:00
vladuz976S99entrance there01:00
funkyHathave you tried the ubuntu nvidia drivers?01:00
vladuz976nickrud, sorry01:00
nickrudvladuz976, then, do you have S13gdm in rc2.d?01:00
rox_i wasnt aware there were some, i'll look for them01:00
phaydedcan anyone drop a webpage/tutorial on reconfiguring php4, or upgrading php-4.3 to php-4.4?01:00
vladuz976correct01:00
vladuz976nickrud, correct01:01
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funkyHat( rox_ synaptic, install nvidia-glx, and do the command it tells you to do in the description of that package)01:01
nickrudvladuz976, then, exit your desktop, press ctrl-alt-f1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then sudo /etc/init.d/entrance start01:01
nickrudvladuz976, should work ;)01:01
surfdueim using xfce01:02
rox_wooo i got it thanks funky i hope this works!01:02
surfduei cant find sympathic package manager01:02
surfduehow do i start it01:02
Shindon_Mwhat's the difference between the 3 Sound System ALSA, OSS and ESD and which is the best??01:02
funkyHatsurfdue, system > administration > synaptic package manager01:03
EBowleshow long is memtest supposed to take with 4 gigs of ram?01:03
nickrudsurfdue, you can run run sudo synaptic from a terminal inside xfce401:03
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funkyHatShindon_M, there are lots of differences, and, well, the best one is whichever one happens to work for you ;)01:03
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Shindon_Mok well thx *G*01:03
funkyHatoh, sorry surfdue didn't realise you were on xfce01:04
nickrudShindon_M, OSS is depreciated, alsa is the kernel modules for sound, and esd is a stream mixer that uses alsa01:04
surfdue!dvd01:04
ubotuI heard dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem01:04
vladuz976nickrud, why do i have to exit desktop?01:04
funkyHatesd sucks for me. >1 second delay :/01:04
surfduehow do i get there on xfce01:04
rox_wooo thanks funky!01:04
libanesubuntu-es?01:04
nickrudvladuz976, because you're gonna run a new desktop.01:04
vladuz976nickrud, oh you mean exit, then exit dgm then log in on console01:04
nickrudvladuz976, yeah01:04
vladuz976nickrud, got it01:04
surfduei start totem01:04
surfduebut it wont play dvds01:05
vladuz976nickrud, brb then01:05
funkyHatsurfdue, gksudo synaptic in a terminal window will bring it up01:05
redguyShindon_M: ESD is a sound *daemon* it needs either alsa or oss to work. OSS is kindof deprecated.01:05
surfduei dont know how to open it01:05
auk!encrypt01:05
ubotuI haven't a clue, auk01:05
auk!crypt01:05
Shindon_Mok01:05
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Shindon_Mso OSS is the best choice01:06
redguysurfdue: totem sucks, try mplayer or xine01:06
surfduek01:07
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NoUsexine has the best support for DVD menus I believe01:07
redguyShindon_M: not really, ALSA is newer than OSS01:07
nickrudShindon_M, no, if you can get your apps to use alsa directly, you're better off. Some sound cards do it easily, some are much harder to set up.01:07
athlonanyone know any media player that support idx-sub subtitles ?01:07
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athlontried xine and mplayer, doesnt seem to work01:07
surfdueno such mplayer or package01:07
surfduexine01:07
QMarioHow was everyone's day?01:07
nickrud!sound01:08
ubotusound is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/01:08
EBowleshow long is memtest supposed to take with 4 gigs of ram?01:08
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Shindon_Mi had problems with cedega i had to kill my ESD sound system in order to get sound in Cedega games01:08
reiki!java01:08
ubotuI guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:08
nickrudShindon_M, those ubotu links will help with your cedega problem01:08
Shindon_Mthanks01:08
surfdue!mplayer01:08
ubotusurfdue: I give up, what is it?01:08
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surfduei dont know01:08
QMario!Botsnack01:08
ubotuthanks qmario :)01:08
surfdueu tell me01:08
QMario!DVD01:08
ubotuI heard dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem01:08
QMario!libdvdcss01:09
ubotuQMario: Do they come in packets of five?01:09
surfduehow do i install mplayer!01:09
Concord_Dawnlol01:09
surfduedammit people01:09
surfduelol01:09
Concord_Dawn!libdvd01:09
ubotuConcord_Dawn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:09
redguysurfdue: you should enable universe and/or multiverse to get these i think01:09
QMario!multimedia01:09
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia01:09
surfduei have universe01:09
nickrud!libdvdcss201:09
ubotunickrud: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:09
Blazer_ESHello01:09
QMarioUbotu, tell surfdue about multimedia.01:09
redguy!tell surfdue about multimedia01:09
redguyhah01:09
QMarioRedguy, it has already been done. ;)01:10
QMarioRedguy, how was your day?01:10
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Blazer_ESMy install progress still freezes at 12% when creating the partition ext301:10
rob_pEBowles:  Are you using Memtest86 per chance?  If so, it will execute indefinitely making passes over and  over again.  Are you sure it hasn't been doing this?  Also are you executing all the tests (specifically test 9 - bit fade test)?  That one alone takes 3 hours!01:10
redguyI see. I'm not a fast typer you know :P01:10
mickearly morning to you all from irish land01:10
Blazer_ESWhat are we doing tonight brain? The same thing we try everynight pinky: Try to install Ubuntu!01:10
redguyBlazer_ES: how can you tell it freezes? no HD activity?01:11
nickrudrflol01:11
mickblazer whats scarey is my hr "manager", thinks i made the line from pinky and the brain up!!01:11
reikiok if activate hoary-extras to install java, am I better off doing this through apt?  And will activating hoary-extras get me "updates" I don't necessarily want?01:11
Blazer_ESWell it just stays at 12% for hours01:12
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Blazer_ESlol mick01:12
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nickrudreiki, the best way is to enable the extras, apt-get install java, then disable extras. No extraneous stuff that way.01:12
micknot so much as lol, but scarey!!01:12
reikinickrud: ok... thanks :)01:12
mickreiki you could just install java manually01:12
nickrudreiki, um I forgot the apt-get update :)01:12
Blazer_ESI think the hdd might be defective01:13
mickits not that difficult01:13
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redguyQMario: ooh, missed a line again.01:13
jasoncoheni also see "skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o" : no symbol01:13
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mickblazer have you tried using a bootable cdrom to check the disk?01:13
EBowlescan anybody walk me through or point me to a guide where I can somehow get ubuntu working (getting a crc error) without losing the stuff in my user directory01:13
cafuegoOh, look, a directory with 380MB of virus email.01:13
surfdueis there a way 2 fix skype in gnome01:13
mickalso if you have defective block checking on it takes ages, at least it did on my p2 celeron 500 here01:13
boogerhaving problems with Lirc can someone help ??01:13
surfdueonly gnome skype wontm work01:13
jasoncohenapt-file search spencode.o shows nothing01:13
funkyHatreiki, no, hoary extras is pretty much just extras, that aren't in the other repos01:14
Blazer_ESAh I have downloaded a analasys tool from maxtors homepage but havent got any empty cd's to write on01:14
redguyQMario: My day was fine. Since I'm on holiday I'm trying to catch last moments of summer01:14
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surfdue!skype01:14
ubotuI guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/01:14
micksurfdue: yes...i have a link for you01:14
titaniumi installed sun-jdk through synaptic but when i try to use java i get 'could not find libjava.so'. any ideas?01:14
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mickcovers sound in general01:14
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redguy!java ?01:14
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:14
gmoorethe wiki guide doesn't work01:14
Newbtotal newb with problems with grub01:14
funkyHatworked for me :)01:15
Newbneed some help01:15
funkyHatNewb, just ask :)01:15
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redguyNewb: state the nature of yuor problem01:15
Newbgrub just hangs after the install01:15
phaydedcan someone drop a link for configuring php4 or upgrading from php-4.3 to php-4.401:15
mickfor sound::  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=1&pp=1001:15
gmooreat the bottom, about "This is due to a bug in dpkg-architecture on newer systems. Run dpkg-architecture and find the line similar to" -- for me my architecture IS i386-linux. it won't make-jpkg correctly. it always fails01:16
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Newbjust says "Grub Loading, please wait"01:16
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reikiok... for java with extras open and update run... I apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 ?01:16
icewtanyone happen to know how to change the look of menu buttons etc. in GTK1 apps? (so that they would look nicer for example in xmms)01:16
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rosbornHello all01:16
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rosbornI'm a noob just had to get that out01:16
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boogerhaving problems with Lirc can someone help ?? please ....01:16
rosbornI have azures Bt and it was working fine now it will not open01:16
gmoorefunkyHat: any idea why i can't make-jpkg? :(01:17
rosbornCan't figure out what is going on01:17
nickrudreiki, I don't have extras enabled, but that sounds reasonable :)01:17
Blazer_ESSO where can I get a hardware analysis program? for windows? that will scan my other hdd for corruption?01:17
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funkyHatgmoore, no, sorry :(01:17
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phaydedcan someone drop a link for configuring php4 or upgrading from php-4.3 to php-4.401:17
mickblazer why use cough cough windoze????01:17
redguyNewb: this is odd. where did you install grub? the MBR?01:17
mickyou can use efsck from a bootable cd01:18
Blazer_ESI havent got any empty cds here to wirte on01:18
boogerplease ??01:18
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Newbredguy: yeah, just finished the install, already have XP and was installing ubuntu01:18
mickblazer:: shuzbots!01:18
Madpilothi all01:18
mickthere goes that plan01:19
Newbon the reboot, it just hangs01:19
boogerplease ??01:19
mattyJis beagle installed by default on colony3?01:19
rosbornAnyone have any Ideas why Azureus would not open01:19
boogerhaving problems with Lirc can someone help ??01:19
rosbornI worked fine beforen now Ican not get it to run01:19
mickafter all a cd is the ideal way as then you can check the disk without any os having it mounted01:19
nickrudgmoore, try changing it to uname -m01:19
micksorry booger, new to this lrc stuff01:19
jasoncohenwhat does the speedo module do?01:19
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phaydedis there any simple way of editing the configure for php4?01:19
mickmore used to lamp then front end shtuff01:19
boogerok01:20
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rosbornI think it may have something to do with and update I ran last night01:20
jasoncoheni'm getting an unknown symbol spencode.o in libspeedo.a01:20
rosbornnot sure what all consteted of the update01:20
jasoncohenwhen i attempt to start X...i think that's causing the server to abort01:20
redguyNewb: Is it an old box? Bootloaders might have trouble when installed not at the beggining of the drive AFAIR01:20
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Newbit's one year old, WD HD, with WinXP01:21
redguyand how was your day QMario ?01:21
Blazer_ESshould be possible from windows too because on that hdd there is nothing01:21
nickrudNewb, what bus is your drive on?01:21
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reikiok... java installed and working in firefox... that was pretty painless01:21
Newbnickrub: no clue01:21
redguyNewb: is it a SATA?01:21
Newbno IDE01:22
rosbornCan someone help me with Bittorret program01:22
reiki!find bluefish01:22
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ubotubluefish: (gtk+ HTML editor), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0+cvs2005021601-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1350 kB, Installed size: 5984 kB01:22
nickrudNewb, you can try making sure lba is enabled in bios, oh, no ide, I quit :)01:22
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IceDC571does anyone in here use breezy?01:22
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rosbornfor some reason it will not open I'm using Azureus it was working fin01:22
c0rrupt_MeeP01:22
nickrudIceDC571, I am at the moment01:22
rosbornnot sure what the issue may be01:22
Blazer_ESor can it be because its on a RAid pci controller card?01:22
HrdwrBoBis it a raid card.01:23
HrdwrBoBif it's IDE I seriously doubt it01:23
redguyNewb: Seems pretty regular config. Can't think of anything that could be wrong, sorry01:23
IceDC571nickrud: how is it.. does it have many issues?01:23
reikibluefish installed... man this is easy01:24
reiki!find k3b01:24
nickrudIceDC571, not really, I'm using it for day to day work (with serious backups :)01:24
Newbthanks, redguy01:24
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'k3b' (4 shown): k3b ;; k3b-i18n ;; k3blibs ;; k3blibs-dev.01:24
Newbdo you know what version of grub comes with ubuntu 5.0401:24
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nickrudIceDC571, if you've ever used debian's experimental, it's more stable than that.01:25
lvraab0.95 isn't it??01:25
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Revan999how do i edit grub to boot only windows so i can delete ubuntu?01:25
redguyRevan999: why on earth would you want to do that?01:25
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Revan999because i can't get it to work01:26
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redguyRevan999: how come?01:26
reikioh my... didn't realize k3b is a KDE app... now it's installing KDE as well ... heheheh... oopsie01:26
Revan999idk01:26
Revan999it just don't work01:26
lvraabwell, that's descriptive01:26
Dalamark3b will run under gnome as well01:26
Revan999no matter what I do I can't get X to work01:26
delltonyanyone here have any experience with moto4lin?01:26
nickrudreiki, it's not really getting all of kde, only the stuff that k3b needs.01:27
rosborncan I uninstall a program from terminal ?01:27
Madpilotreiki: k3b works just fine in Gnome, but you do have to have a pile of KDE libs01:27
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rosbornI'm sure I can but can someone give me a hint on how01:27
Newbany suggestion on how I can get grub to work, it's hanging after the install and I can't boot01:27
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Newbtrying to run a dual boot01:27
dbernar1!seen bob201:27
ubotubob2 is currently on #ubuntu01:27
Madpilotrosborn: try "man apt-get" to get the apt-get help01:27
reikinickrud: ok.. thanks again... trying to get my Ubuntu to replace everything I do in XP. Seems pretty easy so far01:27
IceDC571nickrud: alright.. thanks for the info, i think i'll go ahead and use breezy, it also looks like theres a new release today, eh?01:28
redguyRevan999: you should restore the XP boot record, try looking in google01:28
nickrudreiki, you may need to change the way you do some things, but you can get it done, usually.01:28
Dalamark3b is easily the best cd/dvd burner for linux imo01:28
skalpelgnomebaker, cough01:28
cafuegoDalamar: It's just a front-end.01:28
Goodspeed__how do i scroll up in console?01:29
cafuegoGoodspeed__:shift- page-up01:29
redguyRevan999: As to X problems, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?01:29
dbernar1bob2: you think you have any information for me about Internet Connection sharing? I have a more specific question, I just dont know if you are here..01:29
Dalamarregardless front end or not its ease of use is the key, especially for users transitioning from windows01:29
reikik3b finished installing but I can't find it on a menu... anyone know how I get it there?01:29
cafuegoDalamar: My point is that it's justa  shell, not in fact a burning application at all.01:29
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redguydbernar1: you might want to read about firestarter to do that I think01:30
Dalamartrue01:30
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dbernar1redguy: I know how to set that up. I wanna set something else up.01:30
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dbernar1redguy: thanks.01:30
SnorksDoes Ubuntu find ATI cards and automagically fix 3d acceleration?01:30
Newbany suggestion on how I can get grub to work, it's hanging after the install and I can't boot. trying to run s dual boot and it just hangs01:30
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redguydbernar1: what do you want to set up then?01:30
MadpilotSnorks: you'll need to install the drivers01:30
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dbernar1Snorks: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowTo or so01:31
nickrud!ati01:31
SnorksMadpilot: will it be able to config itself?01:31
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:31
Madpilotubotu tell Snorks about ati01:31
dbernar1oh, now there is a separate one...01:31
MadpilotSnorks: mine works with just the basic drivers installed, no need for tweaking. I've got a 9600XT01:31
reikiheheh... ok n00bness showing... installed k3b and now I can't find it... how to start it01:31
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Madpilotreiki: in a terminal, just type "k3b"01:32
dbernar1I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.01:32
dbernar1However, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out01:32
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dbernar1redguy: ^01:32
reikiMadpilot: doh.... that easy... dang it01:32
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teressaHello boys01:32
simprixWhat is the status of breezy01:32
jdnewmilI initially setup my Kubuntu to use dhcp... but I want it to use a static IP instead now.  I fixed /etc/network/interfaces, but the boot process still seems to prefer dhcp, so I have to manually ifdown/ifup to get my static IP... where to look?01:32
teressaHow is everyone?01:32
dbernar1hey teressa01:32
NewbAnyone have probles with a WD HD and Grub or lilo01:32
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simprixwhen will it be released01:32
dbernar1aight...;)01:32
darkheartreiki If you log out/log in, it might appear in the menu, if not, I think smeg can help you edit the menu to place it there.01:32
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Madpilotreiki: yeah, but no menu entry... you can create a launcher easily, though01:32
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tandythis is al ttle off topic, but can anyone reccomend a web interface for email01:32
simprixhorde01:33
teressaQuick question, my second CD-RW drive bombed when I tried to burn something with K3B01:33
jogarigai need help installing d-link g630 on a powerbook?01:33
teressaAny suggestions on settings to change??01:33
HrdwrBoBteressa: squirrel mail is good01:33
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Snorkswoot01:33
Snorkswoow01:33
Snorkswow01:33
dbernar1ok01:33
cafuegojogariga: Just give up now.01:33
nickrudreiki, if you can see a k3b.desktop file in /usr/share/applications, it will be on the menu next login01:33
vladuz976nickrud, the sudo /etc/init.d/entrance start, how do i make that permanent01:33
teressaSquirrel mail?01:33
b3nwcan anyone suggest a good wifi with WEP howto? i'm in ubuntu but xfce401:33
IceDC571is colony 3 of breezy out?01:33
reikik3b needs cdrda0 package installed? hmmmmm01:33
jogarigacafuego: why?01:33
Snorksim a gentoo user atm, but i think ubuntu will be the distro for me. everything ive read looks 200% promising01:33
teressareiki, I have that01:33
IceDC571oh wait im stupid.. its in the topic01:34
teressabasically, it began to burn, then just spun down and stopped01:34
dbernar1Snorks: propaganda.01:34
Snorksdbernar1: ?01:34
cafuegojogariga: a d630 pmcia card will need nsdiwrapper and windows drivers. those are never ever going run run on a powerbook.01:34
reikiteressa: I can just apt-get cdrda0?01:34
vladuz976nickrud, i rebooted and it goes back into gdm01:34
nickrudvladuz976, since S13gdm is called first, the S99entrance does not get run.  A hack is to sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm01:34
jogarigacafuego: what do you recommed to buy?01:34
dbernar1Snorks: all youve read seems 200% promising - propaganda.01:34
tandyHrdwrBoB, thanks01:34
simprixhow can i upgrade to breezy01:34
nickrudvladuz976, a real hacky thing to do.01:35
teressareiki, what do you mean? I believe I have cdrda0 installed...01:35
cafuegojogariga: www.prism54.org - note the card version numbers (ie the wg311 v2 or v3 will NOT work, but the v1 does)01:35
rob_ptandy:  I've used Squirrelmail for about 3 years on 2 of my servers.  It's worked flawlessly the whole time.  I'd highly recommend it!01:35
vladuz976nickrud, if i ever want it back how would i do it?01:35
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Newbany suggestion on how I can get grub to work, it's hanging after the install and I can't boot. trying to run s dual boot and it just hangs, PLEASE HELP!!!01:35
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dbernar1newb no errors during install?01:35
Newbnone01:35
nickrudvladuz976, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm01:35
cafuegojogariga: At the veriy least, a standard orinoco 802.11b will work just fine./01:36
micknewb,sorry i have no help to offer01:36
dbernar1no errors while it hangs?01:36
Snorksdbernar1: call it what you want, im gonna give ubuntu amd64 a chance01:36
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surfduedoes anyone know how to fix gnome01:36
surfdueskype01:36
dbernar1good luck. It was a joke, btw, lighten up...01:36
Newbnope, the cursor just falshes01:36
surfdueskype on gnome01:36
mickinstall kde?  :-P01:36
surfdueno.01:36
dbernar1Newb: what could possibly fix that...01:36
surfduekde sucks.01:36
tandyrob_p ok ill check it out.. loks to be wut im lookign for01:36
nickrudsurfdue, it's probably a sound problem, I've seen it here before (I don't run skype)01:36
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dbernar1Newb: reinstall, md5sum (checksum) the CD, hope you made partitions separate for data.01:37
nickrudubotu !tell surfdue about sound01:37
ubotunickrud: Do they come in packets of five?01:37
teressahmmm, well at least I have a new coaster01:37
mickfor skype and other sound problems heres a good link01:37
reikiok that was easy enough. K3b starts now and auto-detected my Plextor01:37
nickrudack01:37
mickhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=1&pp=1001:37
surfdue!tell me about sounds01:37
gilvfor file in * ; do cat $file ; done => How should this command be written when file contain spaces ?01:37
surfdue!sounds01:37
ubotusurfdue: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:37
dbernar1!msg the bot01:37
micksurfdue just posted a link for you!!01:37
surfdueerr01:37
surfdue!skype01:37
ubotuI heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/01:37
Newbdbernar1: reinstall both systems? or just ubuntu01:37
redguydbernar1: the default gateway is set up properly on the mac box? can the linux box ping tha mex box?01:37
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redguys/mex/mac/01:38
cafuegogilv: "$file"01:38
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mickdid the sound link help?01:38
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gilvcafuego: i tried it but it doesn't work01:38
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dbernar1Ill try that, good idea. the second one, pinging the Mac, never thought of that. I did not touch anything in  regard of the default gateway. It is I think shown as the right one, 192.168.0.1, it all gets done by DHCP.01:39
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cafuegogilv: for file in *; do cat "$file"; done01:39
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cafuegogilv: Of course, 'cat *' do the same.01:39
dbernar1redguy: ^ the worst part is it worked for a wehile, I hate that.01:39
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o2krlol01:39
o2krsorry01:39
o2krxD01:39
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redguydbernar1: heh, happens sometimes, propably some config didn't get saved :_)01:39
dbernar1newb, I would reinstall the Ubuntu...01:39
teressaWhat is the correct command to run K3B in the terminal?01:39
hajaWhat is a good CPU temp display prog for Ubuntu/Linux?01:40
dbernar1it didnt cause of the hard reboot, I hate it.01:40
dbernar1k3b enter01:40
dbernar1I think01:40
dbernar1try k3 tab01:40
darkheartIt's k3gb01:40
teressaDo I have to run it as root?01:40
darkheartsorry k3b01:40
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darkheartteressa You might have to.01:40
dbernar1ok, Im out, thanks for the idea, redguy.01:40
teressaSo what is the command if I wanted to add it using SMEG?01:41
Newbdbernar1: I will, but I tried PCLos9 yesterday, twice and Lilo stalled both times afte installing ... i'm thinking it's something more01:41
teressak3b &?01:41
darkheartteressa I've never used smeg, so I couldn't help you there.01:41
reikiteressa: I opened a terminal and just typed k3b  not root and no sudo before. That what you meant?01:41
micknever even heard of smeg till now01:41
micksorry :-(01:41
teressawell yea... but I heard you need to run it as root01:41
reikiI didn't01:41
redguyyou don't01:42
Newbdbernar1: but lilo hung as well, similar problem01:42
nickrudteressa, I think you need to get smeg from backports01:42
darkheartteressa Sometimes that is the case in order to access certain resources. You can try running it as root.01:42
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EBowlesI just installed a new video card, now when I boot its saying "I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly."01:42
teressaokay...01:42
mickyou run k3bsetup as root, but it prompts you for a password if you start it as an ordinary user01:42
teressaSMEG is money, all of you guys should get it01:42
maximausgksudo /usr/bin/k3b01:42
teressaahhh I get it01:42
nickrudEBowles, log into a console, and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:42
mickfree money??01:43
Madpilothaja: lm-sensors & either ksensor or xsensor as a front end. see the forums for a tutorial01:43
hajaOk, thanks Madpilot01:43
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mickmoney to spend on the worlds greatest porn delivery medium??  :-)01:43
ccfielhello ppl...01:43
darkheartEBowles Makes sense if it's a different chipset...Would require a different driver.01:43
teressawhoa01:43
teressaThis is like totally differnet01:44
micklol teressa01:44
teressaWhat is the differnce?01:44
ccfieli have a question... how do i export to my openoffice calc an text file? please help me..:(01:44
Madpilotteressa: what's different?01:44
hajaIs there much difference between the two Madpilot ?01:44
teressamick: k3b... do I have to run it as root?01:45
maximausccfiel, do it as a ".csv"01:45
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Madpilothaja: don't think so, except that I found ksensors easier to configure, even tho I"m in Gnome...01:45
maximauscsv=comma separated values01:45
EBowleshow much memory do I want to be used in my video card?01:45
hajaOk, I'm in gnome too. I'll try that one first. Thanks again01:46
darkheartEBowles The amount that it has.01:46
surfduethanks soooo much01:46
surfduenow to my second issue01:46
EBowlesits blank01:46
ccfielmaximaus: yes...i know..but it is not an csv file..its a text file ..in order to get the row..its has a fix width..01:46
surfduei haveinstalled xine01:46
Madpilotteressa: you shouldn't have to run k3b as root - I don't on my system...01:46
nickrudEBowles, depends on your card01:46
surfduebut i cant find how to start it :P01:46
darkheartEBowles So how much memory does your card have?01:46
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EBowleslet me check01:46
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teressaOkay... but what could the reason be why I can't burn on my second CD RW?01:47
EBowles64 MB01:47
surfdue!xine01:47
ubotusurfdue: I don't know01:47
surfdue!cookie01:47
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ccfielcan somebody help me.. :(01:48
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EasterSunshineccfiel: just ask01:48
Madpilotteressa: no idea - does it work at all? (just in read mode, that is?)01:48
EasterSunshineccfiel: your question/problem, that is01:48
maximausccfiel: export to pdf and cut and paste into an editor?01:48
robertjDo the Colony3 liveCD's have UbuntuExpress?01:48
nickrudccfiel, what's your need for the exported data, that may help a bit01:48
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ccfielhow do i export to my openoffice calc an text file? a fix width.. please help me..:(01:48
EasterSunshineoh i just got here...01:48
cafuegoccfiel: export as csv01:49
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cafuegoccfiel: Just look at the dialogs.01:49
Seveasrobertj, no01:49
ccfielcafuego is not a csv..its a fix width..01:49
EasterSunshinerun the csv thru a script01:49
darkheartI think he means import, not export01:49
cafuegoccfiel: It's still in the export dialog.01:49
delltonyquestion i put a webcam in my usb and ran dmesg and it seems to have detected it my phone is currently plugged in and it is /.dev/ttyACM0 so would i have to mount ./dev/ttyACM0 to access the webcam/digital cam ?01:49
ccfielyes..import...sorry..01:49
cafuegoccfiel: Ah01:49
ccfielhow do i import.. to my openoffice calc an text file? a fix width.. please help me..:(01:49
ccfielsorry..01:49
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delltonyi mean ttyACM101:50
EasterSunshinecan openoffice import csv? cause then you can turn the fixed width into csv with perl01:50
maximausccfiel: #openoffice.org01:50
maximauson freenode01:50
robertjEaster: it can!01:50
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teressaif /dev/hdc is my first drive, what is my second??01:50
kafeinedelltony, doesnt dmesg gives you some hint on where the cam is?01:51
Seveasperl? awk!01:51
kafeineteressa, hdd01:51
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EasterSunshineit is /dev/hdd maybe, i'm not sure01:51
cafuegoccfiel: File -> Open -> Type: text;csv -. Open -> In that dialog, check the 'fixed with' box.01:51
delltonyyeah kinda thats what i'm trying to figure out01:51
teressaah ha! Danke mein se!01:51
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darkheartteressa If /dev/hdc is your first drive...anyone's guess which is the second =) You can find out for sure in your /etc/fstab01:51
delltonyusb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 301:51
delltony that is all it says01:51
surfduehowcome i cant play my dvd01:51
teressaIt was hdd :)01:51
delltonyso it hcd?01:51
surfduei need some dvd playback css decroder01:52
surfduethat is illegal01:52
surfdue:|01:52
ccfielcafuego: let me check..01:52
cafuegoThere is no checking, i just did it here, it works.01:52
redguysurfdue: welcome to the 21st century01:52
kafeinesurfdue, apt-get install libdvdcss201:52
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nickrudsurfdue, I think libdvdcss2 is in hoary-extras, you'll need to enable the repository.01:53
kafeineand that would only work if you've enabled the repos01:53
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kafeine:)01:53
Squallellow01:53
EasterSunshinecan someone test my ssh server? can someone ssh into me on port 62626?01:53
kafeinehello, Squall01:53
delltonykafeine, any idea what it might be?01:53
Squallhow do i set and config my network card from command line?01:53
surfduehow01:53
surfduenick01:53
delltonythe phone showed ttyACM0 and i got it working01:53
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surfduewhat repitory do i add01:53
delltonybut the cam is nt showing anything other than what i posted01:54
Madpilotsurfdue: hoary-extras01:54
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kafeinedelltony, none at all. i really do not have any experience with usb devices, especially cams01:54
SquallEasterSunshine: looks like it works, i telneted ;>01:54
surfduejust add that to sources.list?01:54
ilba7ranyone know how to set the default theme for gtk application in icewm to clearlooks?01:54
SquallSSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu201:54
kafeinetry the forums for some experience on this one01:54
Madpilotsurfdue: just a sec01:54
delltonyunfortunately for me nor do i01:54
teressawell I enabled DMA on the second drive, hopefully that will allow me to burn properly to it using K3b01:54
EasterSunshinesquall: that's odd, i got connection timed out when i did it from my friends...01:54
nickrudsurfdue, I don't have that link at hand, wait for Madpilot01:54
teressa:)01:54
delltonythaks for your help though yeah ill look in some mans and whatever and see if i can figure it out01:54
ccfielcafuego: thanks a lot! it work!01:54
Madpilotsurfdue: see the very bottom of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:54
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cafuegoccfiel: I know!01:54
delltonyif not ill post to the forums they are very helpful01:55
delltonythanks01:55
surfduety01:55
darkheartYay, time to go home.01:55
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ilba7r!icewm01:55
ubotuilba7r: Are you smoking crack?01:55
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ilba7rlol01:55
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EasterSunshineok who's gonna teach ubotu icewm?01:55
teressaewww01:55
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EBowlesI'm trying to go through reconfiguration-xorg, but after it asks how many bits of color, it comes out of it saying "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly customised configuration01:55
nickrud!info icewm01:55
teressanot me01:55
ubotuicewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.18-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 1224 kB01:55
brenthello01:55
robertjis Cupid on breezy any better than cupid on hoary?01:55
EBowleshow do I continue on?01:55
SquallEasterSunshine: im just planing to try fluxbox as its supposed to be better :>01:55
brenthas anybody ever tried lmms?01:55
Squallhow do i set and config my network card from command line?01:56
nickrudEBowles, let it overwrite, you have a new card.01:56
ilba7rnickrud you should though teach ubotu to be more polite01:56
EasterSunshinesquall: is fluxbox on the level of populartiy as kde or gnome? it seems to be a bit under that01:56
EBowlesnickrud, how?01:56
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redguySquall: man ifconfig; man interfaces01:56
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SquallEasterSunshine: probably not, but its lighter and it can run their programs ;>01:56
mrstarkweatherwhere can I get an ubuntu compatible media player?01:57
Squallredguy: thx, thats just what i expected01:57
Squall:>01:57
mrstarkweatherother than totem01:57
redguy:] 01:57
nickrudEBowles, it's a warning after the install, I kinda think it already did.01:57
EBowlesoh01:57
nickrudEBowles, based on seeing that message elsewhere01:57
Madpilotmrstarkweather: Totem works great; what problems are you having with it?01:57
hajaAnyone know what this person is using for a cpu/hdd/ weather display?01:57
hajahttp://www.vapulus.com/gnome2.6.jpg01:57
mrstarkweatherI'm tryin' to play an MP3 and it's not working01:57
mrstarkweatherI'm new to linux...so I have no idea what I'm doin'01:58
Madpilot!mp301:58
ubotu[mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:58
Madpilotmrstarkweather: see ubotu right above ^^^01:58
EasterSunshinesquall: light windows managers aren't my style...i want the heaviest most customizable thing on the planet, so i stick to kde01:58
mrstarkweatherthanks01:58
nickrudhaja, I'd guess gdesklets01:58
hajaOk, I'll check that out01:58
hajathanks01:58
teressaIf I chmod a folder, will it affect the files in the folder?01:59
redguy!tell mrstarkweather about multimedia01:59
nickrudteressa, only if you use the -R (recursive) flag01:59
teressaso like, chmod -r /whatever02:00
reikiteressa: you can chmod -R and it will change rights recursively into the folder02:00
nickrudteressa, capital R in this case02:00
SquallEasterSunshine: sure, its your choise. im trying to run it on a P1 133mhz with 98mb of ram02:00
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Madpilotteressa: "man chmod" for info - and case matters...02:00
surfduewhen i try to play a dvd, totem tells me the soruce is encrypted are you trying to play a dvd without libdvdcss02:01
Squallok i got it network up, can someone just tell me where i set the internet gateways?02:01
surfduei have libdvdcss2 installed02:01
surfduewhats wrong?02:01
teressaaight, thanks boys02:01
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reikiok... next is email... just use Ximian or should I use Thunderbird? I used Thunderbird on WinXP and thought it was ok.02:02
teressause evolution02:02
teressait is money honey02:03
Ngusing evolution will mean better integration with the rest of the desktop down the line too :)02:03
reikiyou like that saying huh?02:03
Squallok i got network up, can someone just tell me where i set the internet gateways?02:03
Ngbut they can both read the same files, so you can move to thunderbird if evolution annoys you ;)02:03
c0rrupt_money honey02:03
c0rrupt_RIFK02:03
surfdueanyone?02:03
reikiSquall: should be in properties for the eth002:03
surfduei installed libdvdcss but i still cant play dvds02:03
surfdue!libdvdcss02:04
ubotuI don't know, surfdue02:04
surfdue!dvd02:04
ubotuI guess dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem02:04
ElleoSquall: System -> Administration -> Networking02:04
Elleothen select the relevant device and click Properties02:04
brenti'm wondering how to install lmms02:04
lvraabXMMS is best02:04
SquallElleo thx for the info but i need command line help ;>02:04
Elleoah,02:05
Elleoin that case do02:05
Madpilotsurfdue: got totem-xine installed? that might be it02:05
lvraabxmms-ogle is the DVD player02:05
Elleoroute add default gw x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the ip address for your gateway)02:05
surfdueyes02:05
Ngthat won't fix the route permanently02:05
Ngput a "gateway x.x.x.x" line in your /etc/network/interfaces definition for the device02:05
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Squallim stupid02:06
c0rrupt_mhm02:06
EasterSunshineugh...ubuntulinux is bloated...02:06
Squallwhy didnt i think of copying /etc/network/interfaces from one machine to the other02:06
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robertjEaster: grow up02:06
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teressaBloated?02:07
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teressahah a02:07
teressalame02:07
robertjEasterSunshine, come tip-toe outside the fairy land of perfection sometime02:07
teressaAmen02:08
reikiis there spam control in evolution? Or that I can add to it?02:08
robertjI've got nasty, nasty, nasty code I run at work because it was quick to write and cheap to buy more hardware02:08
Ngreiki: yes02:08
teressaThe rain is made  of chocolate02:08
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robertjit's easy to maintain but runs like a dog. Size and effeciency are not always at the top of the list02:08
teressaDo you guys realize, I have never used Linux before in my entire life before last week02:08
Seveasteressa, hehe02:08
Nggood choice then :)02:08
Seveaswelcome aboard :)02:08
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Madpilotteressa: welcome to the Light Side... :)02:09
luiginohello everyone.......02:09
luiginoI'd like to know whats the name of the file in /etc/init.d that makes kubuntu starting the X at boot because I'd like to add an instruction for 915resolution setting? thanks :)02:09
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Seveasrobertj, you can make it as light/heavy as you want :)02:09
teressaSeriouslly, my windows machine could not handle anymore spyware or whatever02:09
teressaso I took drastic action02:09
mrstarkweatherOnce I 've downloaded gstreamer, where is it downloaded to and how the heck do I install it?02:09
teressaI am pretty proud of myself :)02:09
ompaulteressa, no you took corrective action :)02:09
ompaulteressa, and you can be prouder :)02:09
robertjHere is a thought though: Windows is closer to fixing spyware than Linux is02:09
Madpilotmrstarkweather: gstreamer is codecs, basically02:09
Seveasluigino, resolution settings are specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:10
ompaulrobertj, it needs to be :-)02:10
Madpilotrobertj: that's because only Windows *has* a sypware problem!02:10
Seveasresolution settings for the virtual consoles (so not X) are specified as kernel boot parameter02:10
SeveasMadpilot, not true02:10
robertjMadpilot: and just what do you think would happen if a distro got even a 20% marketshare?02:10
Seveasdo you run adobe acrobat reader?02:10
Ngmrstarkweather: how did you download it and what exactly was it?02:10
teressaI do02:10
Seveasthat has spyware inside (admitted, not the agressive one)02:11
teressa!!!02:11
luiginoSeveas yeah but I wanted to add just a command of a third part little program that changes on da bios the resolution like 915Resolution 38 1280 80002:11
ubotuit has been said that ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me02:11
MadpilotSeveas: no, I use one of the default pdf readers...02:11
Nguse evince instead, it's a lovely pdf viewer :)02:11
mrstarkweatherIt's a debian file02:11
SeveasI have a .deb package for acroread without the spyware and with the latest security update02:11
teressayou do??02:11
robertjHas anyone noticed that Firefox has popups now? Opensource is not a cure-all02:11
mrstarkweatherand that's all i know02:11
teressaHow would one go about installing that?02:11
Seveasteressa, how did you install it? binary installer from adobe?02:12
Ngmrstarkweather: gstreamer is mostly already installed in Hoary, all you need to do to install other parts is fire up Synaptic and search for gstreamer, you don't need to download deb files :)02:12
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teressano... from the (I know obsolete) Ubuntu guide02:12
Seveaseeek02:12
teressa!!??02:12
ubotuI guess ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me02:12
TheGnomehell002:12
Seveasubuntuguide.org is crappy02:12
teressayea I know...02:12
teressabut strangely enougbh....02:13
surfduemy dvd is really choppy02:13
teressasometimes it is more acurate than the wiki02:13
HrdwrBoB!dma02:13
mrstarkweatheroh, alright, thanks alot man02:13
TheGnomesurfdue: yeah there is a fix for that...........but i dont know it02:13
Seveasteressa, dpkg -P acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins02:13
Madpilotteressa: then please, please edit the wiki to be more accurate!02:13
robertjUbuntuGuide is pretty good in my experience02:13
HrdwrBoBteressa: let me know where the wiki isn't as good and tell me02:13
HrdwrBoBI'll fuck it02:13
teressasurfdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%2902:13
popeysurfdue: i had that, it was because my driive wasn't DMA enabled02:13
HrdwrBoBsurfdue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA02:13
funkyHatis there any kind of central configuration program for ubuntu? for choosing drivers etc?02:14
teressaha ha02:14
popey:)02:14
teressaI should edit it myself02:14
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SeveasfunkyHat, gnome-control-center02:14
HrdwrBoBer fix it02:14
teressayou know though...02:14
Seveasteressa, did you do that command already?02:14
HrdwrBoBdamn you frued02:14
teressaI posted on here that it was wrong02:14
teressano hold on a sec02:14
gimbalget this. sourceforge.net is mentioned in a page at microsoft.com, and so is Apache, the *nix-system replacement for IIS: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=55509202:14
MadpilotHrdwrBoB: right... that was a great typo...02:14
HrdwrBoBMadpilot:  :/02:14
teressaok now I ran tit02:15
Seveasok, no errors?02:15
teressanone02:15
Seveasnice02:15
teressa??02:15
Seveaswget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb02:15
Seveassudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb02:15
teressain that order?02:16
Seveasyup02:16
teressaok the first one is running02:16
Seveasthat'll take some time, it's not a small download02:16
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Seveasoh CRAP02:16
teressano it isnt02:16
Seveascancel the download02:16
reikiI never thought to see if I have an adobe reader on here02:16
reikihmmmm02:16
teressauh oh02:16
teressahow?02:16
HrdwrBoBreiki: you generally don't want it02:16
Seveasteressa, the package contains a bug02:16
teressaclose the terminal??02:16
Seveashit <ctrl>C02:16
HrdwrBoBevince > adobe acrobat02:16
Squallok guys another problem: /etc/resolv.conf doesnt exist, i got dns`s added to /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesnt seem to work. what am i missing?02:17
SeveasI'm fixing the package now02:17
teressaok...02:17
teressaLet me knwo02:17
TheGnomehow can i tell where my dvdrom is?02:17
surfduewow02:17
surfdueu guys are really experts02:17
TheGnomeTheGnome: its not hdc02:17
teressasarcasm?02:17
surfduethank you popey and HrdwrBoB02:17
surfdue:)02:17
surfduenow one more case02:17
HrdwrBoBTheGnome: odds are it's /dev/hdd or hdc02:17
surfduehow do i get skype and my dvd towork02:18
surfdue:P02:18
reikiHrdwrBoB:  is evince easy to integrate with FireFox?02:18
HrdwrBoBubotu: tell surfdue about skype02:18
TheGnomenope its neither02:18
surfdueum02:18
surfduei know its posible02:18
HrdwrBoBTheGnome: dmesg| grep ROM02:18
surfduei dont use edu02:18
teressasurfdude: one sec...02:18
surfdueesd*02:18
surfduei use alsa?02:18
surfdueit should work02:18
HrdwrBoBreiki: integrate ? I don't know, but you can easily chagne the program it launches02:19
TheGnomehda02:19
teressasurfdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%2902:19
TheGnomeim stupid02:19
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Squallok guys another problem: /etc/resolv.conf doesnt exist, i got dns`s added to /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesnt seem to work. what am i missing?02:20
TheGnomecuz my hard disk is sda02:20
Seveasteressa, the package is fixed now02:20
Seveassorry for that02:20
Seveasplease remove what is already downloaded02:20
Seveasand then redo the last 2 commands02:21
KoreLabshaving a config problem with an app after installing gcc, anyone got a spare minute?02:21
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ompaul! skype is also deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free02:21
ubotuokay, ompaul02:21
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surfduecan someone help me02:21
teressaok so try again seavas?02:22
surfduei cant get it to work02:22
surfduei need skype and my dvd player to work02:22
surfdueposiblwe?02:22
gnutyhello all, Ubuntu is the best02:22
EasterSunshinehello gnuty, i agree02:22
Seveasubotu, acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb02:22
ubotuokay, Seveas02:22
teressaSeveas: will this also install a menu item for it?02:23
Seveasteressa, yes02:23
surfdueanyone?02:24
surfdue!acroread02:24
ubotuhmm... acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb02:24
teressamoney02:24
EasterSunshineugh i wrote a script that actually works and i became all depressed cause of it02:24
surfdueubotu, surfdue is a surfer02:24
ubotusurfdue: okay02:24
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HrdwrBoBEasterSunshine: oh nos02:24
surfdue!surfdue02:24
ubotufrom memory, surfdue is a surfer02:24
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surfdue:)02:24
surfdueyay02:24
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Seveas!bot abuse02:25
ubotu[bot abuse]  a bannable offense02:25
Seveas^-- surfdue02:25
Seveas!names02:25
ubotunames are something you should not add in me02:25
lain2hi, can anyone help me get multiverse repository enabled?  i've been working at this thing using the wiki as a guide, and i just can't get mplayer to show up in synaptic.02:25
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gimbalmmm bananable fences02:25
teressa60%02:25
teressaI am so amped02:26
Seveaslain2, put your sources.list on the pastebin please02:26
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lain2ok.  a minute.02:26
satafterhanyone help with audio and video sync02:26
mrstarkweatherI marked and installed all the gstreamer stuff that ubuntu came with, but I have no idea how to run and open it and make it play an mp302:26
HrdwrBoBsatafterh: your problem is esd02:26
Seveasteressa, please tell me when the download is done, the server needs to be rebooted ;)02:26
Dekkardbtw.. you techie guys are great..02:26
flughwill have internet access at work within the month. then i can doff fedora and put ubuntu on the server. all will be well again :)02:26
teressaok 75%02:26
teressa:)02:26
satafterhesd??02:27
flugh(not that y'all care, but that's my good news for the day :)02:27
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teressaWill I need that server to run the second command?02:27
surfdue:)02:27
surfdueim a bad boy..02:27
Seveasteressa, no :)02:27
surfdueubotu, im very sorry!02:27
ubotusurfdue: I haven't a clue02:27
teressaok02:27
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surfdueomg?02:27
teressaexcellent02:27
surfdue..02:27
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HrdwrBoBubotu: esd?02:27
ubotuesd is, like, totally, Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.02:27
Dreamer3how can i check the fragmentation of a linux parition?02:27
Seveasthere is none02:28
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lain2http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/134502:28
Dreamer3Seveas: sure there is :) it's just not as bad as windows02:28
gimbalDreamer3: it's generally not of any concern02:28
satafterhubotu: how do i fix?? I am very new to linux02:28
ubotusatafterh: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:28
Dreamer3my linux system is slower and slower... i swear when i first installed it it was fast... this is what i expect of windows, not linux02:28
teressaok seveas... it is done02:28
surfdue!how do i run more then one sound app02:28
ubotusurfdue: I give up, what is it?02:28
teressathank you02:28
mrstarkweatheronce gstream has been installed does anyone know how to get it to run and play mp3s?02:28
surfduedoes anyone know02:28
Seveas!sound02:28
ubotuI guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/02:28
Seveas^--02:28
HrdwrBoBsatafterh: run 'killall esd'02:28
HrdwrBoBthen play your movie02:29
teressaoh shit02:29
teressaerrors were encountered :(02:29
flughpotty mouth02:29
teressasorry02:29
flugh:)02:29
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Dreamer3i'm thinking on reinstalling ubuntu, but not sure what that will prove02:29
Dreamer3i don't want to reinstall linux every 6 months02:29
lain2Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/134502:29
satafterhdo i have to run that every time i play a movie??02:29
Esteveshy there02:29
teressaSeveas: that package may still have bugs02:29
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Esteveshow can I autostart a program when fluxbox is being started?02:30
ompaulDreamer3, you don't fix that - you never fix that - it is the job of the operating system to look after the file system and manage its filesystem 'issues'02:30
teressaShould I post the errors in the pastebin?02:30
DonLDreamer3, I'm thinking another problem. I've never defragged, not that I would know how to do it02:30
HrdwrBoBsatafterh: once per login02:30
Seveaslain2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/134702:30
Dreamer3ompaul: well, my issues is things feel slower and slower02:30
TheGnomeEsteves, make a foler in .fluxbox called Autostart02:30
SquallEsteves: try #fluxbox ;>02:30
satafterhok thanks bob02:30
Dreamer3ompaul: the only reason i switched from debian is ubuntu was faster02:30
TheGnomeEsteves, then link apps to the folder02:30
Seveasteressa, please do02:30
ompaulDreamer3, that may be that you need to close mozilla some times and run memtest :)02:30
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jugarnathaGood evening.02:31
Dreamer3ompaul: nothing is wrong with the memory :)02:31
jugarnathaI'm having problems with flash.02:31
Dreamer3ompaul: or i'd have worse problems02:31
Dreamer3ompaul: though why does everyone say memtest?02:31
Dreamer3i'm curious02:31
ompaulDreamer3, glad you did not claim mozilla was not a memory hogger02:31
jugarnathaMacromedia flash player won't install, and I'm pretty sure there's something that comes with an ubuntu install02:31
EstevesTheGnome: autostart or Autostart?02:31
jugarnathabut I'm not sure how to unpack it or where to look for the appropriate ap02:31
Dreamer3ok, what's the next version of ubuntu02:31
Dreamer3how close is it?02:32
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satafterhMacromedia flash player?? got it working with fire fox02:32
HrdwrBoBubotu: tell jugarnatha about repositories02:32
TheGnomeEsteves, i think Autostart ........ but im not 100%02:32
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satafterhthanks for the help people02:32
satafterhlater02:32
Estevesok02:32
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SquallEsteves: or you could check the FAQ on the site, i think they have that in it....02:32
vladuz976how come there is no /etc/X11/Sessions in ubuntu?02:33
rathelhow do I run a script as root on startup?02:33
ompaulDreamer3, because it is something that does go bad 'tune in tonight after the 9pm news for when good ram goes bad' and should be tested against, if it is not that then there may be some desktop item that is eating the memory - run free and top to see what the main hoggers are when it feels sluggish02:33
TheGnomenow dvd's play great!02:33
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TheGnomenow how can i make a copy?02:33
MAPDhi02:33
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Seveasrathel, add it to /etc/init.d/ and link it from /etc/rcS.d/02:33
Dreamer3ompaul: all the memory gradually leaks over time02:33
Dreamer3ompaul: i can close every app and leave X and still 400mb in use (no, i know what cache and buffers are)02:34
rathelokay, thanks02:34
MAPDwhen i installed ubuntu it said i didnt have all my language support on the cd and it said to go to the net but i cancelled because my download limits can i update it now?02:34
Dreamer3ompaul: but there seems to be no good "solution"02:34
lain2Seveas, thanks for the help.  it's working now.  i'll look at the differences to see what i was doing wrong, thanks02:34
ompaulDreamer3, init 1 init 2 ?02:34
Dreamer3ompaul: single user mode... no difference... memory seems to be taken but never freed02:34
cafuegoDreamer3: it's probably being cached. This is normal.02:35
SeveasMAPD, yes, install the package language-support-YOUR_LANGUAGE_CODE02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: shouldn't the kernel not allow that to happen?02:35
MAPDSeveas one question02:35
Dreamer3cafuego: i'm familiar with linux memory usage, what i have is NOT normal02:35
Seveas(like language-support-es for spanish)02:35
ompaulDreamer3, see comment about cached which is why I pointed at top02:35
MAPDi need to change02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: it's not cached02:35
MAPDmy apt-get and synaptics mirrors02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: it's in use02:35
MAPDto portuguese ones02:35
MAPDhow?02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: but i can kill everything running02:35
MAPDand to install the package i use apt-get?02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: i know how Linux works02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: i've been using it for years02:35
Dreamer3ompaul: i'm just at a loss how to deal with this terrible memory leak02:36
SeveasMAPD, by editing /etc/apt/sources.list -- a portuguese mirror can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive02:36
Dreamer3ompaul: i would have though the OS would prevent apps from doing such evil things, so would tha tmean it's the kernel?02:36
TheGnomehow do i clear history in totem?02:36
SeveasMAPD, yes you use apt-get to install it02:36
cafuegoDreamer3: IF there is as terrible memory leak (in the kernel???) you should mail lkml.02:36
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MAPDok thx02:36
teressaseveas: sorry, I will post the errors now02:36
Dreamer3cafuego: i dunno where it is02:36
SeveasMAPD and sudo dpkg-reconfigure to change language02:36
Seveasteressa, thank you very much02:36
cafuegoDreamer3: if the apps are not running, it's the kernel.02:36
cafuegoDreamer3: The kernel is in charge of reaping memory from apps that exit.02:37
ompaulDreamer3, using top and lsof and free may helpyou find something when it is next sluggish go for those and see what info you can dig up02:37
Dreamer3cafuego: i have to reboot every 30-40 days (with warty) because all memory would gradually get used and then go into swap... with hoary it's like every 2-3 days... but i switched back to warty kernel, no change02:37
cafuegoDreamer3: Which kernel?02:37
EasterSunshineubotu tell me about ssh02:37
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Dreamer3cafuego: the latest warty kernel before hoary... now running the latest hoary kernel02:37
teressacrap, I posted it as anonomys02:37
MAPDSeveas how to configure the apt-get sources?02:37
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TheGnomehow do i clear history in totem?02:37
SeveasMAPD, by editing /etc/apt/sources.list02:38
MAPDok02:38
Dreamer3cafuego: i can try lsof next time, but i've used top and free... nothing jumps out, just all the memory is GONE02:38
fzdo you guys know how to use qemu ?02:38
MAPDwhat do i8 write?02:38
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MAPDwhat do i write?02:38
MAPD#02:38
MAPD![Portugal]  [WWW]  ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/02:38
MAPD#02:38
MAPD![Portugal]  [WWW]  http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/02:38
ubotuMAPD: No idea02:38
ubotuMAPD: I give up, what is it?02:38
teressaseveas: what do ya think?02:38
SeveasMAPD, do NOT paste in here02:38
Seveasteressa, I'm looking at it...02:38
Dreamer3cafuego: any ideas?  should i try building my own kernel?02:38
MAPDsorry02:38
MAPDi forgot02:38
MAPD:P02:38
MAPDso sorry02:39
MAPD:\02:39
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Dreamer3cafuego: i mean is it possible for a user app to take memory and die and the kernel NOT reclaim it?02:39
cafuegoDreamer3: Run top, sort the columns by ram use.. anything there?02:39
Dreamer3cafuego: i guess i wonder if this is a kernel or app issue02:39
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vladuz976anybody using e17 here?02:39
muffin_hi02:39
Dreamer3cafuego: i just rebooted, but no, there will be nothing there... just a few system processes... i can go to single user mode and still have 400mb in use02:39
cafuegoDreamer3: it's possible, but only if the kernel has a rather glaring bug in it. This is possible, of course, but I'd have expected MORE users to have the problem.02:40
muffin_i've insalled quake2 in synaptic, how do i execute it now??02:40
MAPDSeveas http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d134902:40
Dreamer3cafuego: so, apps can do that? take memory and die and never give back?02:40
Doonzis there a point to installing a antivirus program on linux?02:40
Dreamer3cafuego: well, this is an IBM Thinkpad T22, not the most used piece of hardware02:40
DonLDoonz, only if your linux box is a server for windows computers02:40
cafuegoDreamer3: The apps have NO control about whether or not the give it back.02:41
Seveasteressa, something must have gone wrong at the download02:41
cafuegoDreamer3: The kernel is in charge at all times.02:41
MAPDcan you check the site Seveas pls?02:41
teressamaybe because the first one was cancelled?02:41
MAPD:p02:41
Doonzok02:41
Seveasteressa, I think so02:41
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Doonzkool cause all my boxes are ubuntu02:41
teressaShould I just try it again??02:41
Seveasand the server is off now (it's in my bedroom and I'm going to sleep in a minute)02:41
teressa...02:42
teressapoop02:42
SeveasYou can try again in about 8 to 10 hours, sorry for the delay :(02:42
Dreamer3cafuego: are you sure?  what you're saying is if the apps are REALLY closed, and there is still no free memory it is a kernel issue, right?02:42
teressaThere is no where else to get it?02:42
cafuegopff, sleeping until 1pm eh02:42
cafuegoDreamer3: Indeed.02:42
muffin_i've insalled an app (quake2) in synaptic, how do i execute it now?? i can only do this from the applications menuebar ^^02:43
Seveasteressa, no, no one else toook the effort to make it available02:43
Dreamer3cafuego: so build my own kernel with known good options and see how it plays out?02:43
Seveasand I really have to go now02:43
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teressaok get to beddy bye02:43
cafuegoDreamer3: You can certainly give it a try, yes.02:43
Dreamer3brb02:43
MAPDhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d134902:43
cafuegoDreamer3: Are you using any non-GPL kernel modules?02:43
MAPDhelp pls02:43
DonLmuffin, I'd like to know how to do it as well.  Didn't work for me02:44
EasterSunshinemuffin_: that's pretty good...i don't even see it in my applications menu02:44
SquallMAPD what do you want to do with that?02:44
MAPDSquall02:44
MAPDi wanted to change apt-get sources02:44
nickrud muffin_ if you must run stuff from the menubar, you can get access to more apps by installing menu-xdg02:44
MAPDso i could do update using a Portuguese mirror02:44
EasterSunshinemuffin_: i did quake2 on the command line, i got an error, so try quake2 on the command line, see what you get02:45
SquallMAPD: so just change from something like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/02:45
Squall?02:45
MAPDoki02:45
MAPDwhat about the other?02:45
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Dreamer3ok, back in X02:45
MAPDtheres two sites?02:45
teressaSeveas: are you still on??02:45
EasterSunshineLoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed: No such file or directory <--that's what i got. anyone can help?02:45
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teressaI think I got what is wrong02:46
teressaI got it installed now :)02:46
Dreamer3anyone run ck patchset?02:46
MAPDwhat about security one?02:46
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MAPDmust really be ubuntu's one?02:46
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dabarthere can be only one.02:46
teressaYES!02:46
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teressaIs Seveas still on??02:46
SquallMAPD dont know about the other02:47
MAPDnope02:47
muffin_EasterSunshine: when i run it in terminal, it says "couldn't exec default.cfg"02:47
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Squallexperiment02:47
teressadamn02:47
teressawell it worked02:47
teressa:)02:47
dabarexcellent.02:47
XiraOkay guys, this is sort of an Ubuntu Live CD Question. I have a nuked window install - that means I have to install windows which will override GRUB when I reinstall to that partition. So, how would I use the ubuntu livecd to restore grub and have it redetect my partitions?02:47
teressasomeone thank him next time he is on :) If I dont see him that is...02:47
teressanight boys!!02:47
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EasterSunshinemuffin_: right under that, it should say that it did exec it02:48
MadpilotXira: check the wiki for recovering Ubuntu info02:48
nickrudXira, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:48
Xirathx02:48
muffin_the last thing is couldn't exec default.cfg02:48
muffin_execing config.cfg02:48
muffin_Console initialized.02:48
muffin_------- sound initialization -------02:48
muffin_loading oss sound output driver, ok02:48
shawnhi just installed ubuntu on my laptop and grub won't boot windows xp now, even though it is in the list to do so02:48
muffin_sorry02:48
MAPDgtg02:48
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MAPDbyebye thx02:48
nickrudmuffin_, you may need to do killall esd, then try quake again02:49
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malverian_Hey guys, is there a package listing for ubuntu similar to the debian package list?02:49
nickrudpackages.ubuntu.com02:49
shawnhi don't recall doing anything stupid, and grub worked properly when it was installed last time i tried fedora02:49
malverian_nickrud: Thank you much02:49
muffin_nickrud: what is esd?02:49
muffin_!esd02:49
ubotuI heard esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.02:49
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nickrudmuffin_, it's a sound daemon, it sits between apps and alsa02:50
dabarits not noise...:)02:50
nickrudmuffin_, not all apps can use esd] 02:50
Dreamer3ok02:50
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Dreamer3is there anything special when replacing the ubuntu kernel witha  custom build?02:50
Dreamer3i know ubuntu has initrd stuff...02:50
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cafuegoDreamer3: Are you using any non-GPL kernel modules?02:51
dabarYes, something very special!02:51
Dreamer3cafuego: um... modem drive once in a while, but i could recompile that against the new kernel, otherwise, NO02:51
sorush20anyone here been able to hear sound from flash player in mozilla firefox02:51
gomeri can't get sound from mplayer. It can can open/initialize sound device. Any suggestions?02:51
gomerca't open02:51
kelseycan anyone tell me if the hard disks are turned off when Ubuntu power managment is activated?02:51
gomercan't open02:51
nickrudgomer, try mplayer -ao esd <file>02:52
gomerok i will ..02:52
shawnhcan anyone tell me what may have went wrong and how to get windows working with grub?02:52
dabarshawnh: windows was there first?02:52
muffin_nickrud, thx, it "did" something02:52
muffin_------- Loading ref_softx.so -------02:52
muffin_LoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed: No such file or directory02:52
muffin_SNDDMA_Shutdown02:52
muffin_recursive shutdown02:52
muffin_Error: Couldn't fall back to software refresh!02:52
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muffin_nickrud, but i have an new error ^02:53
nickrudmuffin_, then, that's over my head, sorry.02:53
darkheartmuffin_ Don't paste in the channel02:53
muffin_thx anyway02:53
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shawnhdabar, yes it was02:53
Dreamer3cafuego: is it going to be simply if i don't use any non-GPL drivers?02:53
gomersame message ...;(02:53
muffin_sorry02:53
darkheartmuffin_ What's your trouble?02:53
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dabarshawnh: what about, is it the first partition that win is installed on?02:53
muffin_darkheart, i can't run quake202:53
shawnhxp home fat32 on a 20gb part, ubuntu auto set up remaining 10gb for swap/root02:54
MagiPinkWhat's a good MU* client for Ubuntu? ^^ :302:54
shawnhdabar, xp was first on 1st part02:54
darkheartmuffin_ Ahh..I thought I recognized that error message. You just installed the packages in the ubuntu repository?02:54
nickrudgomer, try typing lsof /dev/dsp, in a terminal, what does that say?02:54
muffin_darkheart, i insalled it in synaptic from multiverse02:54
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gomer lsof /dev/dsp02:55
gomerCOMMAND  PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME02:55
gomeresd     7714 stokes    5w   CHR   14,3      7852 /dev/dsp02:55
darkheartmuffin_ I tried it also, I never got around to making it work, but what I think is that you need to load the data from the q2 disc somewhere.02:55
dabarshawnh: care to paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst or similar named file?02:56
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darkheartmuffin_ Google turns up this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22920.html Might help you.02:56
shawnhdabar, sure to here or the pastebin?02:56
nickrudhm, that's how I run mplayer, and with esd claiming /dev/dsp, it works.02:56
muffin_darkheart, hm, maybe you need some commercial windows files... but quake2-data package should be also right...02:56
gomerthe other sound functions I have tested work fine also.  Any settings for mplayer in preferences?02:57
muffin_darkheart, thx02:57
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darkheartmuffin_ You won't need any windows files, but I'm not sure what quake2-data actually has...seems a bit small.02:57
nickrudgomer, yeah, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf has some config stuff02:57
gomeri'm using gmplayer..the preferences I'm referring to are in there ...02:58
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DonLdarkheart, I think that file looks small too, but it reads like it should work. Not for me however02:58
surfduehow do i disable esd02:58
surfdueand arts02:58
surfdueand replace with alsa02:58
gomeri don't have /etc/mplayer02:58
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nickrudgomer, how can you not if you have [g] mplayer?03:00
dabarshawnh: ubotu told you.03:00
darkheartDonL Yeah...You have same trouble trying to start q2 also?03:00
ghostlessI'm having trouble with Flash programs...They don't show text...Anyone have any ideas?03:00
DonLdarkheart, Yes. Finally gave up03:00
gomeri have a .mplayer in my home dir ...03:00
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shawnhdabar, ok i just posted to the pastebin03:01
dabarthe .nl one?03:01
Madpilotghostless: install the MS core fonts from the repos, that should fix Flash...03:01
nickrudgomer, if you truly do not have /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, then do sudo aptitude reinstall mplayer03:01
shawnhdabar, yes03:01
dabarok, sec03:02
gomerI installed mplayer from source and did a make install03:02
nickrudah,03:02
ghostlessMadpilot, Ok thank you =D03:02
gomeri didn't see anything about configuring /etc/mplayer/*03:02
DonLgomer, I always have more luck with the packages built for Ubuntu03:03
dabarshawnh: wanna check whether the windows partition is bootable?03:03
dabardont screw uop in there, tho, its sensitive03:03
dabarsudo cfdisk03:03
gomermaybe I'll delete what I what and reinstall?03:03
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EasterSunshinehey can someone really quickly telnet to x1.or.tp on port 62626 and tell me what happens? thx in advance03:03
shawnhok 2 seconds03:03
Madpilotghostless: it's the only real reason to install those fonts, otherwise they're flippin' useless...03:03
dabarkk03:03
ghostlessMadpilot, Haha, Ok... Good advice03:03
nickrudgomer, I cannot help with a compile of mplayer, I last did that around 3 years ago.03:03
shawnhdabar, yes its bootable03:04
gomernickrud,donL, I'll try a Ubuntu install. I'll keep the codecs ..03:04
nickrudgomer, good choice :) be sure to get the one that matches your cpu03:04
gomerthanks guys .....bye03:05
dabarok, any other ones bootable?03:05
titaniululzwhere can i put something so that it's added to path both when i login remotely with ssh and when i open a terminal on the machine locally? ie in .bash_profile adding something to PATH= only sets that when i connect in ssh. it doesnt set the path when i open terminal at the machine03:05
DonLmust go for now. Bye03:05
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shawnhdabar, no just the 1st part03:06
gomerdonL, nickrud, you still there03:06
knowledgeis there a way that anyone can tell me what http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1352 is...or what I could do about it?03:06
nickrudtitaniululz, .bashrc is read when you log into a terminal locally; some people source .bash_profile from .bashrc03:06
dabarshawnh: so that is also good...03:06
nickrudhey gomer03:06
titaniululznickrud, thanks, but what do you mean 'source' it from bashrc03:06
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dabarshawnh: also it is listed as priamry?03:07
nickrudtitaniululz, like add a line to .bashrc that says, source ~/.bash_profile03:07
gomerwhat was the command string for retrieving the ubuntu mplayer?03:07
MagiPinkI feel slightly offended on behalf of my gnome desktop. Someone said it was ugly. x( Heh03:07
shawnhdabar, yes03:07
nickrudgomer, it would be better to look for it in synaptic; there are several versions available, depending on your processor.03:07
dabarya, thats all good.03:07
gomersynaptic.com?03:08
dabarMagiPink: its a taste matter, and I find a lot of people have no taste...who cares...03:08
nickrudgomer, no, System->Administration->Synaptic :)03:08
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nickrudtop menu bar03:08
gomerohhhh KKK thanks03:08
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surfdue!ati03:08
ubotuati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI03:08
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sybaritenhiy'all03:09
titaniululzalso is there any way to change the things you see when you log in remotely to ubuntu, ie the stuff about a disclaimer and such?03:09
yankeeHi, Im having problems loading ubuntu live on my laptop, the display doesn't show... i just hear the start sound is there something i need to type in the boot command ot change this? i tried vga=771 but that didnt work either..03:09
MagiPinkHehe... I suppose so. :303:09
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XiraOkay guys, I force restarted while I was booting into Ubuntu, now grub says grub error 703:09
gomernickrud, when I search in synaptic, it dones't find mplayer ????03:09
XiraWhat do i do? :(03:10
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darkheartmuffin_ You do have to install the game data...Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data'03:10
thechitowncubshey everyone03:10
dabaryo03:10
sybaritenI've managed, to my own surprise, to make samba work (more or less) rather quickly ....  that is, to share a dir from a ubuntu machine to an XP machine. One thing lasts though: write access. I cant write to the share ...  anything i could check ?03:10
nickrudgomer, then  you need to fix your sources.list, a sec while I find a link03:10
XiraAnyone?03:10
nickrudgomer, you need to replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:11
kelseyXira: did should try re-starting again?03:11
Xirayes03:11
surfdueim using cedega and it wont reconize my ati drivers03:11
shawnhdabar, i know i can do the fixmbr trick with the windows cd, but i thought there might be a way out without hosing up grub too03:11
Xiragrub stage 1.5.. | Error 1703:11
Xirais what it says03:11
kelseydoes it even go to the boot menu?03:11
nickrud!components03:12
Xirano03:12
ubotuI heard components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view03:12
gomermickrud, do I add that or change an existing one?03:12
thechitowncubsyou said error 7 before03:12
yankeedoes anyone know why my display doesn't work on my laptop when try to run ubuntu live?03:12
Xirathats my problem03:12
Xira17*03:12
kelseywhen did you install your ubuntu system?03:12
thechitowncubsxira: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-51535.html03:12
Xirauh03:12
Xiralong03:12
nickrudgomer, that is a complete replacement. Take a look at the link ubotu gave for components for a little explanation.03:12
thechitowncubsdid you do any partition editing?03:12
nickrudgomer, mplayer is in multiverse03:13
XiraI don't understand how a hard restart would do this03:13
Xirasigh03:13
Xirathat thread doesn't help much03:13
darkheartXira Hard restart while booting isn't a good idea.03:13
kelseyyou could reinstall....03:14
gomernickrud, sorry, I don't follow ?? multiverse?03:14
Xirai need to access my windows partition03:14
darkheartXira http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml look for 'error 17'03:14
Xirayep03:14
Xirathat doesnt help me03:14
darkheartXira Why not?03:14
kelseyhave you considered a rescue CD>03:14
thechitowncubsxira: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation03:14
kelseyi mean ?03:15
knowledgeanyone know what my error is about?03:15
nickrudgomer, brb, phone03:15
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pmazerUghh.. I'm about freaking out... moving to college tomorrow03:15
thechitowncubsxira: that gentoo doc should shed some light on your issue03:15
thechitowncubspmazer: what college?03:15
gomernickrud, you want to call me?03:16
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terminal|gigaAnyone dualboot win2k and ubuntu? if so, I've a question for you.03:16
mattyJthere is no graphical installer in colony3? does that mean breezy wont have one?03:16
thechitowncubsterminal|giga, yes, i do03:16
delltonyanyone here mind helping me get a digital camera working with ubuntu when i plug the usb in dmesg says new usb device detected but i don't kknow what to do after that as in how to access the cameras dir03:17
terminal|gigathechitowncubs, can I message you?03:17
nickrudgomer, lol,03:17
thechitowncubsterminal|giga, its better to be discussed in the channel03:17
timtuxSomone who have tried ubuntu breezy?03:17
nickrudgomer, did you take a look at that component link yet?03:17
dabardelltony: ls /media/usbdisk03:17
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terminal|gigaok03:17
dabarmattyJ: where did you get this?03:18
gmooreanyone know if it's possible to change the remote ssh login messages?03:18
gomernickrud, I'm don't understand the lol and brb.  Yes I do not x-chat very much ..03:18
dguitaru r03:18
mattyJdabar: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5776003:18
terminal|gigathechitowncubs, you installed windows first right? then ubuntu, and let the installer find the other os and such. Did you partition the partition for ubuntu manually? if so did you make a /boot active or just one big / and a swap?03:18
nickrudgomer, lol, laughing out loud, and brb, be right back. I've got 3 months under my belt, I'm a proww :)03:19
thechitowncubsgmoore, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4068803:19
gomernickrud, I can tell ;)03:19
delltonyok03:19
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delltonylet me try that thanks03:19
robotgeekgmoore: motd :)03:19
sybaritendelltony: or mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/thenameofyourmountingdir03:19
mattyJdabar: i thought some progress was made to the graphical installer and that it would be in, but i guess it didnt make the feature freeze?03:19
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robotgeekgmoore: message of the day03:19
delltonywell usbdisk doesn't exit03:19
thechitowncubsterminal|giga, i have done that and the easiest way is just to leave windows alone and just partition the free space03:19
delltonylet me try the sda103:20
gomeri added a line the file for the PPTP GIU packaging.  I assume what you're suggesting in similar ..03:20
terminal|gigathechitowncubs, I did.03:20
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tristanmikeHi03:20
nickrudgmoore, /etc/issue and /etc/motd are what you are looking for03:20
delltonywould i use pmount maybe?03:20
dabarmattyJ: I still dont see why you think there is no graphical installer..is there none?03:20
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mattyJdabar: installing it now, no graphical installer03:20
terminal|gigathechitowncubs, what I was wondering was did you make /boot, and if so, did you make it bootable? or just one large / partition and a swap, leaving the / parition bootable?03:20
nickrudgmoore, scratch /etc/issue, sorry03:20
mattyJdabar: unless it fell back to the regular way if my video was not detected, but i doubt it03:21
dabarso what, it has a text one?03:21
sybaritendelltony: pmount ?03:21
mattyJya03:21
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delltonyyeah i thinkn its pmount for like usb floppy drives an dall03:21
dabark...well I doubt they wont have a graph installer...03:21
gomergone ... later and thanks ...03:21
tristanmikecan anyone spare a moment to answer a sound question?03:21
mattyJdabar: if they had one, you would think it would be in here, after all uplash made it in03:22
nickrudtristanmike, everyones got a moment, but the answer, well ....03:22
tristanmikejust wanted to make sure I wasn't interupting something, thanx03:22
tristanmikeI'm trying to get my rear and center speakers working...in rhythmbox03:23
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sybaritendelltony: ok i've never seen it as anything different than a normal drive03:23
delltonywhat do you guys gather from this line in dmesg usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 403:23
sybaritenwhats the first thing i should look into when i cant write to a samba share from win xp ?03:24
sybaritenthe folder is shared from Ubuntu linux with a very simple sharing tool, and a click box saying "read only" is not clicked.03:24
Xirathechitowncubs: im booted into the livecd but grub-install isnt a command03:24
Xiraand i dont know how to mount my hd03:24
timtuxHow do upgrade from hoary to breezy?03:24
_franktimtux: dont03:25
mattyJsybariten: under system>administrator>sharefolders make sure read only isnt checked03:25
timtux_frank, why?03:25
thechitowncubsXira: did you boot using rescue?03:25
thechitowncubsand why are you booting the livecd?03:25
Xiraubuntu livecd03:25
Xiragrub is borked03:25
Xiracant boot into anything03:25
robotgeekdelltony: that a usb 2 compliant device has been attached? is it a trick question?? :)03:25
Concord_Dawnyes03:25
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thechitowncubsit says clearly to use the install cd03:25
_franktimtux: unless you REALLY know what you're doing. breezy is not ready03:26
Concord_Dawn!tell Xira about recoveringgrub03:26
delltonyfor you probably not for me ig uess so03:26
Xirasigh03:26
delltonycause i don't know how to access it03:26
Xirai dont have an install cd03:26
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Concord_Dawnyou don't need one.03:26
Xiratheres got to be a way to do it from the live03:26
robotgeekdelltony: what is it that you attached?03:26
thechitowncubsXira: i'll brb03:26
sybaritenmattyJ: as i said; it isnt03:26
delltonya little digital camera03:26
timtux_frank, im pretty good on linux, but i think i wait then03:26
Concord_DawnXira: check out the link that ubotu just PM'ed you.03:26
Concord_Dawnit works, I've done it, multiple times.03:26
robotgeekdelltony: never used one, sorry can't really help you there03:27
delltonynp03:27
delltonyi was thinking it would be something like my motorola phone was03:27
delltonya ttyACM003:27
terminal|gigawhy does apt-get install xchat return xchat 2.0.8 it's so OLD!03:27
delltonyor somethin like that03:27
terminal|gigais there a way to get newer packages?03:27
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jtan325terminal|giga, if you want to be a risk-taker, you could use breezy03:27
robotgeekterminal|giga: wait for breezy or compile on your own03:27
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jtan325has the latest and greatest03:27
terminal|gigabreezy03:28
jtan325but there's a very high chance your machine may break if you're not careful03:28
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terminal|gigahow do I upgrade to that?03:28
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_frankterminal|giga: you can check hoary-backports if there is a newer version03:28
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thechitowncubsXira, do you know how to chroot?03:28
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mattyJsybariten: is the share folder owned by the user you are logging in as?03:29
sm3rp_Has anyone had weird issues with the s3virge X.org driver on hoary?03:29
deufohi peeps, i just did a brae installation, when i got gdm and type the password, they display funny symbols instead of *.  Do you know why?03:29
tristanmikeany advice on getting surround up and running?03:29
yankeeis there a "safe mode" for ubuntu03:29
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sybaritenmattyJ: hm. its a bit diffuse, as there are both linux users and samba users.03:29
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reikihow do I restart samba?03:29
_frankyankee: grub has a safe mode option, I think03:29
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yankeeim using ubuntu live03:30
sybaritenmattyJ: however i think they both have the same name, as well as the XP user ... the XP user has no PW though03:30
sybaritenhm, i did a chmod 777 of that folder03:30
sybaritenhmmm that doesnt seem to help03:31
mattyJsybariten: hrmm, not sure then, i dont really like samba, i always just used ftp03:31
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MagiPinkI think I'm liking Gnome Mud. :303:33
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muffin_hi03:35
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nickrudtristanmike, you could try running alsamixer from the terminal and see if all the volumes are turned up. My limit on 5.1 :)03:36
muffin_i have no rights to write to my /usr/lib/ folder, what should i do to extract files into it???(i don't want to use to root-terminal)03:36
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muffin_why cant you login to the gui as root anyway....03:36
deufohi peeps, i just did a bare installation, when i got gdm and type the password, they display funny symbols instead of *.  Do you know why?03:37
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sybaritenmattyJ: yeah well its easier in a way, it is ... but then i wont be able to do certain things as transparent ... such as using the wonderful Total Commander with the ubuntu share03:37
xrnathmuffin_ type sudo infront of your commands03:37
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Vivaldihello03:37
robotgeekmuffin_: or gksudo03:37
tristanmikenickrud: Yeah, I'm there now, I ran the "speaker-test -c6 -D surround51" command and here's the thing, I get surround sound there, but the sound for the center speaker comes out the Ft.Lf. loud03:37
Vivaldiwhat's the kernel version in ubuntu by default?03:38
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xrnathmuffin_ you can also do sudo -s / sudo -i to maintain root03:38
nickrudtristanmike, watch for a guy named crimsun, he's the sound guru around here.03:38
Flavtrying to get gzip/deflate support working in apache2, but i don't see a mod_gzip or mod_deflate package like there was for 1.3?03:38
tristanmikenice, good to know03:38
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tristanmikenickrud, I see his name, but it's greyed, what does that mean? You have no idea of how much a computer n00b i am03:39
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robotgeektristanmike: he's away03:39
nickrudtristanmike, I haven't a clue :)03:39
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tristanmikerobotgeek, thank you03:40
muffin_txh03:40
muffin_thx03:40
agnesanyone want to help a newbie out with getting DVD playback up?03:40
Bored1edanyone with Ubunto experience want to chat and give me some tips?03:40
agnesWhen i play any video it freezes the system and eats the cursor03:40
robotgeekagnes: which DVD player are u using?03:41
agnesI have tried totem and Mplayer03:41
agnes both do the same thing03:41
Dimehey guys is there a piece of software that tells your the weather forecast?03:42
robotgeekagnes: can you try VLC and tell us if it does the same thing?03:42
agnesVLC?03:42
robotgeekDime: you can get gkdesklets03:42
tristanmikeOnly the best video player03:42
robotgeekagnes: video lan client03:42
tristanmikeIMO03:42
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nickrudDime, you can add the weather applet to a panel03:42
Dimeok03:42
robotgeektristanmike: i agree03:43
terminal|gigaum03:43
agnesrobotgeek: is it in synaptic?03:43
tristanmikeI thought they went defunct03:43
terminal|gigawhat do you guys type when mounting samba shares? smbmount what?03:43
gmoorehttp://img17.echo.cx/my.php?image=pdk1wy.png what poker game is that?03:43
tristanmikefrom pressure03:43
robotgeekagnes: lemme check03:43
tristanmikeagnes, yes, it's in synaptic03:44
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robotgeek!info vlc03:44
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB03:44
tristanmikeagnes, apt-get vlc03:44
Dimeany idea where i would find gkdesklets03:44
robotgeekapt-get install vlc03:44
Dimei looked in google nothin came up really03:44
nickrud!info gdesklets03:44
ubotugdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB03:44
tristanmikerobotgeek, touche03:44
robotgeek:)03:44
Dimethanks03:44
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DukGalNamui am having a problem with xine.... its skipping frames for some reason03:45
terminal|gigasmbmount //samba/share1 /mnt username=admin doesn't work03:45
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terminal|gigaanyone wanna help me out with possible avanues i could take to fixing?03:45
agnesim aptgetting it now03:46
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DukGalNamumplayer doesn't do the dame thing03:46
DukGalNamusame03:46
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maximekill esd process and try to play something again03:47
DukGalNamumplayer plays it smoothly, but i can't get mplayer to play fullscreen03:47
DukGalNamunothing to kill03:47
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nickrudDukGalNamu, try mplayer -vo xv <file> ; if that works, change vo to xv in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf03:49
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DukGalNamunickrud: i tried that, i got an error03:49
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ms12anyone know how to change nautilus default them. I run it under icewm thats why the question?03:50
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DukGalNamuvo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)03:50
DukGalNamuIt seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.03:50
DukGalNamuRun 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!03:50
DukGalNamuSee 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x1103:50
DukGalNamuError opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.03:50
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agnesrobotgeek: Im attempting to play a dvd, Ill be back in a bit if I crash.03:50
DukGalNamuanyone drown?03:50
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nickrudDukGalNamu, I did, what card do yu have?03:51
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DukGalNamunickrud: ATI03:51
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DukGalNamunickrud: 9800 pro03:51
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vivi20tux03:51
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jogarigai need a sip client that works on ppc? any ideas?03:51
nickrudDukGalNamu, and, what did xvinfo say?03:52
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sm3rp_ /msg Flav Hey there, it's Scott Parkerson03:52
DukGalNamunickrud: xvinfo?03:52
Dimedamn03:52
zerboxxAnyone here know mpc very well (well enough to help with a script?)??03:52
sm3rp_(who sucks at IRC, evidently)03:52
sm3rp_:)03:52
Dimethe weather desklet that comes with gdesklet doesnt work03:52
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DukGalNamunickrud: no adapters present03:52
DukGalNamunickrud: no *adaptors present03:52
nickrudDukGalNamu, and have you read the docs it mentions?03:53
DukGalNamuumm... no03:53
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Vivaldiwhat's the kernel version in ubuntu by default?03:53
DukGalNamu2.4 i think03:53
cafuegoVivaldi: 2.6.10 for hoary03:53
sm3rp_Vivaldi: depends on the release03:53
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c0rrupt_hello03:54
tristanmikeany sound people here?03:54
DukGalNamuof mind? no03:54
tristanmikelol03:54
tristanmikethen I'm in the right place03:54
AndyFitztristanmike,  yes and no03:54
DukGalNamuROFL03:54
c0rrupt_how can i password protect a usb mass storage device03:54
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: encrypt everything on it03:55
tristanmikeAndyFitz, I have sound, no probs, I'm just trying to get my surround to work03:55
c0rrupt_with what?03:55
tristanmikeAndyFitz, think you can help?03:55
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DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: try searching synaptic for a tar archiver03:55
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AndyFitztristianmike,  oh okay.  no I can't help  I thought you were referring to the ubuntu sound theme03:55
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: sorry, a rar archiver03:55
tristanmikeAndyFitz: Thanx anyway03:56
agnesrobotgeek: you still around?03:56
c0rrupt_i only use apt03:56
c0rrupt_no gui03:56
AndyFitzgood luck tristanmike03:56
c0rrupt_no synaptic03:56
tristanmiketanks03:56
c0rrupt_any other ways?03:56
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DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: then try apt-get install rar03:56
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c0rrupt_how am i going to rar a whole drive03:56
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: and you will need unrar also03:56
c0rrupt_i have unrar03:56
c0rrupt_and i need to constantly access it fluidly03:57
c0rrupt_in linux and windows03:57
c0rrupt_;\03:57
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: well, you are going to need another drive or set it to overwrite the existing file03:57
c0rrupt_meh03:57
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DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: or create a tar.gz first03:57
c0rrupt_im going to ask for an alternative ;\03:57
c0rrupt_how long would this take03:57
c0rrupt_the drive has like03:57
c0rrupt_60 gigs of data03:57
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: a long time, but there is no way around it03:58
c0rrupt_bleh03:58
deufohow do i get firefox to display chinese characters instead of stupid boxes with numbers in them03:58
EasterSunshinehow do i see channel modes for a particualr channel and the ban list03:58
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: if you want to lock it up fast, buy a firebox with a combo on it and put the drive in there03:58
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c0rrupt_what about03:58
c0rrupt_kpg03:58
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: kpg.. never heard of it03:59
zerboxxI'm not sure how to best phrase this question, so here's my best shot: I have a file, no extention, that starts with "#!/bin/bash"  I know this is a script, but I was wondering what language it is, so I can know how to make my own03:59
nickrudzerboxx, it's bash :)03:59
c0rrupt_its kde03:59
DukGalNamuzerboxx: that is a bash script, using command line03:59
c0rrupt_application03:59
c0rrupt_it comes with kubuntu..03:59
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DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: but you have no gui??03:59
EasterSunshinemaybe it has #!/usr/bin/python right under it?03:59
c0rrupt_it says03:59
c0rrupt_wel03:59
Dreamer31lets hope bash03:59
c0rrupt_i have a gui03:59
c0rrupt_lol03:59
zerboxxEasterSunshine: Nope03:59
c0rrupt_im just saying03:59
c0rrupt_i dont have synaptic03:59
c0rrupt_-kubuntu03:59
DukGalNamulol03:59
c0rrupt_i dont like gui with apt-get04:00
faolhey can any one help me in linuix04:00
c0rrupt_just04:00
c0rrupt_baash apt04:00
DukGalNamuc0rrupt_: apt-get install synaptic04:00
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DukGalNamu:P04:00
c0rrupt_lol04:00
c0rrupt_=P04:00
speel!gorillas04:00
ubotuspeel: Not a clue04:00
zerboxxDukGalNamu: So the language I need to learn is "bash script"?04:00
nickrudzerboxx, you can start here http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html04:00
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DukGalNamuumm, go to linuxcommand.com04:00
zerboxxnickrud: thanks! this is going to be a good learning experience, but I bet I'll get annoyed at least 15 times in the process :D04:01
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faolhow can i connect to a server 2003 using ubuntu04:01
nickrudzerboxx, I guarantee it, and then, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html :)04:01
zerboxxnickrud: ...perfect! :P04:01
DukGalNamulinuxcommand.org sorry04:02
nickrudmore annoyances04:02
dremanCan somebody help me with an internet problem? Konqueror connects and works great, but, Mozilla and Firefox won't even though eveything seems to be configured right.04:02
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faolyou mean you dont know anything about linuix?04:02
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dabarI have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.04:02
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dabarHowever, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The linux can not ping the Mac neither. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out.04:02
dabarPerhaps eevn knowing where the logs are kept for ipmasq, or how to make it keep a log would be helpful. ipmasq uses iptables on my system.04:02
Dimeanyone here running gdesklets?04:04
speelthoes hellishlets04:04
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speel!gdesklets04:04
ubotuspeel: Are you smoking crack?04:04
cafuegofaol: samba and various zombie/worm control applications.04:04
speelLol04:04
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zerboxxnickrud: Ok, before I get started and end up destorying my computer out of frustration, can you let me know if I'm even heading in the right direction?04:05
speel!are you smoking crack?04:05
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, speel04:05
speel!sucks for you04:05
agnesHey, im haveing some problems getting video to work on my system, no matter what player i use it gives me a blue video screen and then freezes my system. any ideas?04:05
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nickrudzerboxx, bash is the scripting language you must know, imho.04:06
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maximehave you installed the last video drivers for your card?04:06
Ice9!ati04:06
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI04:06
Xiralolz remember kids dont hard restart while ubuntu is booting04:06
Xira:[04:06
zerboxxnickrud: Well I need to make a script, but not sure where to start04:06
cafuegoXira: Why not? Works fine.04:07
Xirait broke grub04:07
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Xira:x04:07
tristanmikeangnes: this is a stupid question but you have installed the proper codecs?04:07
agnesmaxime: I dont know, but this laptop is less than a month old04:07
cafuegoXira: yeah, 100000:104:07
Xirawell i guess i'm unlucky!04:07
Xira:P04:07
agnestristanmike: im not even positive what a codec is, im pretty newbie04:08
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tristanmikeagnes: sorry about the misspelling, did you edit your sources.list?04:08
agnestristanmike: i dont think so04:09
dremanAny ideas about my internet connect prob? Mozilla can't to resolve the proxy on a direct connection.  Konqueror can just fine. Ideas?04:09
agnestristanmike: the only thing i changed was my respositories list04:09
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tristanmikeagnes: right, that's it04:10
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maximei had problems too with mplayer and xine but it turns out it was a conflict with the esd process for the mplayer part...i installed the nvidia drivers too...works fine now...but I need to end the esd process before playing a movie04:10
tristanmikeagnes: look here http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback I'll be back in a sec04:10
agnestristanmike: then yes, i have many repositores04:10
agnesmaxime: how would i go about installing those drivers? are they in synaptic?04:11
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rob_pzerboxx:  What sort of script are you writing, or wanting to write?04:12
agnestristanmike: says i already have the newest version04:12
zerboxxrob_p: nickrud is helping me out right now, thanks though04:12
maximego at http://ubuntuguide.org/04:12
solidunithey i just installed hoary on my laptop and i'm trying to install wpa_supplicant. apt-get says the package does not exist04:12
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rob_pzerboxx:  No prob!  Just curious... that's all.  Good luck :-)04:13
nickrudrob_p, help is also welcome04:13
solidunithow do i install wpa_supplicant04:13
zerboxxrob_p: I'll let you know in just a minute :)04:13
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IkzannHi. I'm running Panther and trying to install Ubuntu. For partitioning, I have one partition for OSX and I created one placeholder partition about 3 gigs big. In the Ubuntu partitioner, I deleted the placeholder and used the Use largest contiguous free space option to auto-partiton it for me. However, when it gets to the Yaboot step, it says that it can't install Yaboot on /target/. I try to continue wihout it, but when I boot with the option key, Ubuntu d04:13
Ikzannoesn't appear. Does anyone know what's wrong and/or how to fix it? Thanks.04:13
linuxpoetwhat in the world is04:14
linuxpoetdpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file04:14
agnesmaxime: thanks im installingthem now04:14
Dimeanyone here running gdesklets?04:14
dabarlkzaya, I know. You need a small new world partition on the first partition on the hard drive, for yaboot to install itself there.04:15
dabarIkzann: ^04:15
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cafuegodabar: Yes, the autopartitioner should have set that up (mine did)04:15
tristanmikeagnes: sorry, the codecs off of ubuntuguide.org?04:15
IkzannMine didn't.04:15
compdudeHow do i rebuild the .udevdb? (I deleted it by accident and now I can't boot in ...)04:15
IkzannSo I need to partition a partition?04:16
cafuegoIkzann: File that as a bugreport; apart from that, I think you miht be looking at a reinstall :-(04:16
Ikzannof Linux?04:16
cafuegoIkzann: yep04:16
dabarcafuego: was it empty, youar hard drive?04:16
IkzannI've tried reinstalling it about 4 times.04:16
cafuegoIkzann: I'll send you my partition list04:16
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cafuegodabar: No, I had a Tiger install, did the same thing as Ikzann04:17
IkzannMy drive wasn't empty.04:17
agnestristanmike: mine are updated, im installing the nvidia drivers04:17
Ice9where can I get drivers for my ATI card? The link I went to was for AMDs04:17
tristanmikeagnes: ok, I'm a little behind, sorry04:17
cafuegoartition via Disk utility, delete partition via fdisk, then tell ubuntu to auto-partition.04:17
cafuego!fglrx04:17
ubotumethinks fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:17
cafuegoIce9: there04:18
agnestristanmike: ill be right back i was about to restart and see if the new drivers help04:18
Ikzannfdisk?04:18
tristanmikeyup yup04:18
IkzannShould I just partition the space as free space?04:18
reikiok maybe a dumb question, but is there something for Evolution that will automagically trap spam and send it to junk folder?04:18
bob2of course04:18
bob2install spamassassin04:18
cafuegoIkzann: Mine didn't let me... I also had to create and then delete a placeholder.04:18
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IkzannWhat's the syntax for fdisk?04:19
cafuegoIkzann: hold on04:19
bob2why not use cfdisk?04:19
dabarbob2: I am glad you are here, maybe you know this.04:19
reikibob2:  apt-get spamassassin?04:19
dabarI have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.04:19
dabarHowever, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The linux can not ping the Mac neither. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out.04:19
dabarPerhaps eevn knowing where the logs are kept for ipmasq, or how to make it keep a log would be helpful. ipmasq uses iptables on my system.04:19
bob2reiki: apt-get install, yes04:19
bob2ipmasq is unlikely to have logs04:19
reikibob2: thanks... this is almost too darned easy04:19
reiki:)04:19
dabarI dont even thing my dnsmasq is working any more after some more experiments.04:20
cafuegoIkzann: The message you just got is my partition list, with 62G Tiger and 12G Linux (with 550Mb swap)04:20
bob2I've never used dnsmasq04:20
bob2I always use bind9 and shcp304:20
Ikzanncafuego: Thanks.04:20
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cafuegoIkzann: if you have the same partitions (but perhaps a different size) you should be fine.04:20
dabarok, Ill try a diff setup then,.04:20
IkzannI do.04:20
IkzannBut yaboot doesn't install.04:20
goldenfoxhelp needed guys. - How can i mount my ntfs drives?04:20
cafuegoIkzann: Can you get into Linux via the boot cd and perhaps edit yaboo.conf?04:20
dabarbob2: dhcp3, off course, right, that was a typo?04:21
IkzannI don't think a yaboot.conf gets installed at all.04:21
cafuegoHmmm.04:21
bob2dabar: yes04:22
IkzannOK. I'm going to go reboot into my backup drive.04:22
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dabarbob2: you used this for Internet connection sharing?04:22
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glickdfd04:22
bob2dabar: yes04:22
dabark04:22
bob2dabar: with shorewall for firewall and NAT04:22
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bob2it's almost certainly more complicated than dnsmasq, but it was easier to setup back in the day04:23
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dabarwell. It is not working:)04:23
dabarafter install..04:23
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dabarwhich direction shoudl I go?04:23
cafuegodabar: nne04:23
agnestristanmike: still around?04:23
CodeusHey, what is a Ubuntu 5.04 respository that would have things like "UPower", "Expocity", "Skippy", and whatnot?04:23
dabaragain I got an IP address.04:23
bob2none04:24
bob2since they're all pre-pre-pre-release04:24
dabarbut can not ping out. nor can be pinged.04:24
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dremanIkzaan: Read this article:  http://linux.sys-con.com/read/47809.htm?CFID=150314&CFTOKEN=D7ECEB36-C20A-8017-5ED611390258F4D504:24
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Codeusso no unofficial respositories have pre pre pre release software?04:25
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agnestristanmike: I guess not04:25
sambagirlwhat is the music channel called?04:25
Ice9I don't have any ATI on that list04:25
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mrWootI am having a huge problem. I tried to install osx86 and it worked but when i tried to boot, i get an error reading "GRUB Error 17" Any help?04:26
sambagirlwhat is the unbutu music channel called?04:26
MagiPinkCan I set xchat for automatic acceptance of DCC chats and sends and such? :304:26
cafuegomrWoot: Asl for help on #osx86. This is #ubuntu.04:26
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mrWootcafuego, the channel doesn't exist04:27
cafuegomrWoot: Then you're SOL.04:27
mrWootif you can't help, stop commenting04:27
cafuegoCheck the documentation apple sent you with your Developer kit.04:27
glickMagiPink, why would you want that04:27
cafuegomrWoot: This is an Ubuntu support channel, not a "make my warez run for me" channel.04:28
reikibob2: spamassassin installed but disabled. Just set ENABLED= to 1 and then... what? how do I start it ? :)  Or do I need to read more config info. It looks like it should run out of the box04:28
agnesanyone feel like helping a newbie get video working, regardless of media player used I still get a blue video field and then it freeze my system, i have tried getting new codecs and installing Nvidia drivers... im at a total loss04:28
mrWootit's from the dev cd04:28
mrWootit's not warez04:28
bob2reiki: no, you don't need to do that04:28
cafuegomrWoot: it's also not Ubuntu.04:28
dabarare you using ubuntu, mrWoot?04:28
mrWootyes04:28
Ice9I have an ATI Radeon 9250, how can I get the 3d support working04:28
synacklibdvdcss!!!!04:28
mrWooti'm on it right now04:28
dabarsee, cafuego.04:28
dabarhe is refereing the the Pentium, PC version.04:28
sambagirloh gosh what is the music channel for ubuntu? i was just in it but i forget the name of it.04:28
dabarwhat?04:29
mrWootthanks dabar.04:29
cafuegodabar: yeah, that's not Ubuntu. So wrtong channel.04:29
synackapple might sue you?04:29
dabarthe intel version of ubuntu04:29
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dabarnot osx, or maybe osx, dunno.04:29
cafuegodabar: No, osx86. Apple MacOS X for pc.04:29
TheGnomemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/source: No such file or directory.04:29
dabarah04:29
TheGnomeany ideas?04:29
dabarwell.04:29
PurpleMotionHai, fsckers!04:30
dabarthen//04:30
cafuegodabar: The isnatlelr wipes out /dev/hda completely, so I expect his crub error pertains to all of grub being missing.04:30
Ice9I have an ATI Radeon 9250, how can I get the 3d support working?04:30
CodeusSo there are no like unofficial repositories where you can get stuff like Skippy or UPower?04:30
cafuegoWhich, again, is not an Ubuntu issue.04:30
dabarcafuego: ok, wasnt informed.04:30
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dabarthey did not send me an official newsletter.04:30
tristanmikeagnes: sorry, I'm mulitasking as about as proficent as Windows04:30
PurpleMotiongrub being missing isnt an ubuntu issue?04:31
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cafuegoPurpleMotion: Not if it's missing due to a botched osx86 install, no.04:31
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bob2of course it's not04:31
agnestristanmmike: hahaha no problem04:31
bob2it's a "Mac OS X trashed your boot sector" issue04:31
bob2you go get out your ubuntu install cd and fix it04:31
noravihello everybody04:31
noraviI need help04:31
cafuegobob2: No, it never tocuhed the boot sector. It did wipe everything else, though <heh>04:32
PurpleMotioncafuego:  wouldn't it take an equally small amount of time to tell them how to fix it as it would to tell them it's not an ubuntu issue?04:32
bob2Codeus: nothing on google?04:32
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cafuegoPurpleMotion: What, tell tjhem to reinstall, coz all their data is gone and get flamed even harder?04:32
noraviI'm trying to install some deb packages downloaded from the web04:32
firebird619Hi, does anyone know if there is a newer version of the PCTel modem Linux driver. The latest I can find is 0.9.7-9 and that driver does not support the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel.04:32
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joseduenasanyone knows hot to delete thing in "Places Menu" in the gnome panel ??04:33
PurpleMotioncafuego:  heh, point taken04:33
daba1maybe i figured out what is wrongf.04:33
daba1Ill tell you in a sec04:33
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daba1cause you all want to know.04:33
PurpleMotionin that case, recommend something like norton disk rescue i guess04:33
Ice9I have an ATI Radeon 9250, how can I get the 3d support working?04:33
cafuegorecommend norton? are you insane? ;-)04:33
darkheart!ati04:33
ubotuati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI04:33
TheGnomemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/source: No such file or directory.04:33
TheGnome??04:33
cafuegoIce9: via the fglrx driver.04:33
cafuegoTheGnome: Install the appropriate kernel source.04:34
Ice9cafuego..it won't let me run it04:34
cafuegoTheGnome: (it's not installed by default)04:34
PurpleMotioncafuego:  if someone's just formatted a hard drive and wants to recover as much of their old data as they can, what exactly would YOU recommend?04:34
Ice9FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686-smp/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted04:34
TheGnomecafuego, how?04:34
PurpleMotioncause norton disk rescue usually does the ttrick04:34
cafuegoPurpleMotion: I'd recommend taking it as a lesson, reinstalling and restoring from the backup.04:35
PurpleMotionworks on fat16, fat32, ntfs, hfs, ext2, ext3, reiserfs, and a few other obscure ones04:35
PurpleMotionnot everybody makes backups04:35
cafuegoPurpleMotion: Then that would be lesson #2. Guaranteed they'll make one next time.04:35
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cafuegoTheGnome: install linux-source-2.6.8 (I think)04:36
PurpleMotionthat's not a very helpful attitude, imho04:36
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cafuegoPurpleMotion: That depends, yours fixes the symptom, mine treats the cause.04:36
synackTheGnome: you can use synaptic to get source and i think it makes links too04:37
PurpleMotioncafuego:  that's how people act at tech support call centers everywhere04:37
cafuegoie: "If you lost all your data because you didn't read docs and didn't make a backup, you should make a backup and read docs next time".04:37
PurpleMotionyou're stupid, go away04:37
PurpleMotionthat's what you feel04:37
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PurpleMotionyeah agreed, but you shouldnt have to sacrifice what isnt necessary04:37
delltonyanyone now how to get a Argus DC-1510 working in ubuntu its a usb camera04:37
cafuegoPurpleMotion: Well, it *IS* stupid.04:37
PurpleMotionyeah it is04:38
PurpleMotioni agree04:38
PurpleMotionand tell them they're stupid04:38
PurpleMotionthat's fine too04:38
PurpleMotionbut help them too04:38
Ice9when I try to run the fglrx thing, it gives me this "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686-smp/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted"04:38
goldenfoxis ntfs supported by ubuntu?04:38
PurpleMotionthats all im saying04:38
darkheartYarr04:38
cafuegoPurpleMotion: I wasn't aware of any useful norton prodct, so i couldn't recommend one.04:38
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dbernar1progress has been made, it seems./04:38
cafuegogoldenfox: read-only04:38
reikibob2: I've been reading spamassassin's website. They don't make it very plain what I have to do to make it work. It's obviously not yet marking incoming mail. Did I miss something simple?04:38
PurpleMotioncafuego:  right on :)04:38
goldenfoxcafuego: how can i mount my ntfs?04:39
PurpleMotionwell disk doctor is the shit04:39
cafuego!ntfs04:39
ubotuntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:39
cafuegogoldenfox: The url ubotu just said, download and run that script.04:39
darkheartreiki Hehe, that's what I do at work...What MTA are you using?04:39
zerboxxWhere is gdm's startup file?04:39
goldenfoxok04:39
bob2reiki: spamassassin's website will not have anything to do with this04:39
PurpleMotionpartitionmagic is pretty nice too04:39
bob2reiki: you'll need to find out how evolution uses spamassassin04:40
bob2reiki: unless you're actually using evolution to read a local mail spool04:40
reikibob2: no I'm using evolution to just hit my pop mail hosted remotely04:40
jcfreakzerboxx: you mean like /usr/bin/gdm?04:40
dbernar1got it working! i0yt04:41
dbernar1as opposed to w00t...04:41
Doonzis there a program to turn .img files into iso???04:41
dbernar1my interfaces file was screwed up, which I finally realized, I guess.04:42
zerboxxjcfreak: maybe :)04:42
dbernar1Yay! anyhow.04:42
joseduenasanyone knows hot to delete things in "Places Menu" and "System" in the gnome panel ??04:42
dbernar1there should be a #imsohappy so everyone can come and be happy when they fix something.04:42
dbernar1!smeg04:42
ubotu[smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:42
dbernar1that program allows for that, joseduenas04:43
dbernar1not plcaes, yet. tho, I think.04:43
zerboxxjcfreak: I don't have that...04:43
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bob2reiki: then the SA site will be useless04:44
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jcfreakzerboxx: are you running gnome or kde???04:44
zerboxxjcfreak: I'm running fvwm04:44
jcfreakzerboxx: on ubuntu?04:45
reikidang it. :)  hmmm... Is there another tool that will sit between evolution and pop and mark spam?04:45
zerboxxjcfreak: yup04:45
jcfreakzerboxx: i'm assuming you've installed gnome?04:45
zerboxxjcfreak: yup, had that first04:45
kelseydoes anyone know what directory I should install  Java JRE (Hoary Hedgehog)?04:46
jason_this is strange. I just built a new system and installed hoary. Everything is running great except i can't use nautilus's built in ssh/sftp feature. On my laptop "ssh://serverip" works fine, but on this box i get "Nautilus can't display "ssh://192.168.0.5" . please select another viewer and try again04:46
nickrudreiki, in evolution, try edit-preferences mail preferences tab juck, and click check incoming mail04:46
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nickrud*junk04:46
darkheartreiki google 'evolution spam plugin'04:46
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kelseyanyone?04:47
darkheartkelsey Are you not installing from repositories?04:47
reikinickrud: that box is checked..04:47
jcfreakzerboxx: how did you install fvwm? synaptic?04:47
zerboxxjcfreak: yup04:47
reikidarkheart: ok... searching web as we speak... err... type... whatever :)04:48
kelseyWell I donwloded the self-extracting file from Sun's website... but I can do that.. I didn't think about that. sorry.04:48
jcfreakzerboxx: and now gnome doesn't work?04:48
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zerboxxjcfreak: I can run gnome fine, that's not the problem04:48
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pudlandhi all04:48
nickrudhm, I've had a few things dropped in the junk folder, but, I think I'm running a later version of evp/04:48
goldenfoxmy player cannot play mp3s?? any ideas how to install decoder?04:48
jcfreakzerboxx: whats the problem?04:48
nickrud*evolution04:48
pudlandany body know a good how to for installing the joystick driver?04:49
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zerboxxjcfreak: I want to have a program start when I start my computer, so I don't need to type the command every time, but I don't know how to do that04:49
jcfreakgoldenfox: www.ubuntuguide.org04:49
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goldenfoxokay04:49
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goldenfox:)04:49
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Ice9k I enabled flglx or whatever it is for ati, and its not fixed04:49
zovirlanyone know how to get evolution spam-filtering to work?  I've searching around but can't figure it out04:49
cafuegoomg, where is this garlic smell coming from04:49
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dabarcafuego: youre beggiong for it, arent you?04:50
punkassok i downloaded on of the new breezy current cds...started the install...used guided partitioning..and noticed that my partions wernt setup like I thought So I stopped and rebooted...now it seems my partitions are gone04:50
delltonyanyone wth some spare time on their hand and doesn't mind helping me get a digital camera working with gphoto2 feel free to pm me04:50
dabarpunkass: nice.04:50
punkassI never said partition anything04:50
dabargood work.04:50
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Dimegdesklets04:51
cafuegodabar: eh!?04:51
punkassit showed me what it was going to do..but thats where i stopped04:51
tomajis it possible that the kernel source provided from ubuntu is a different version to the binary version?04:51
firebird619Hi, does anyone know if there is a newer version of the PCTel modem Linux driver. The latest I can find is 0.9.7-9 and that driver does not support the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. I read on the Internet somewhere that there was a driver that supported the 2.6.x kernel but the site I read it on did not give a link as to where to download the driver from.04:51
youngcoderhow do i install games with cedega?04:51
jcfreakzerboxx: give me a few, its been awhile since i've done that04:51
tomajyoungcoder run the install file from cedega04:51
punkassnow i just have a LVM partition with a 56 gig /dev/Ubuntu/root and /dev/Ubuntu/swap_104:51
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zerboxxjcfreak: I still use gdm, so I thought it would have something to do with that04:52
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joseduenasdbernar1, i have smug installed. but i want to delete thing in PLACES and SYSTEM menu, not in Application04:52
punkassis there any way to rebuild the partition table..as now my windows is gone aswell04:52
dabarthe garlic smell question, cafuego, it was begging for a burn, well, it seemed to me that way.04:52
dabara rally graphically violent one.04:52
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Biscuitian_WarheDoes anyone use a Linuxant Modem04:52
punkassdabar: so any words of wisdom other than 'good work'04:53
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lwizardlhi04:53
Biscuitian_WarheHullo04:53
tomajpunkass i dont think you can undo the partition tables04:53
tomajunless you dont save it in the first place04:53
Dimeanyone here running gdesklets?04:54
jcfreakzerboxx: okay, if you want a program to run when you login to gnome, go to System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs, if you want something to start on bootup, i think that has to do with your rc.local file (i've used that before, but that was mandrake)04:54
tomajbut im not 100%04:54
punkasstomaj: i never did save it..thats the thing04:54
Ikzanncafuego: So should I set up Free Space or a placeholder?04:54
dabarsudo fdisk -l04:54
lwizardlcan someone help me with a few things. I just did the os install, changed root info. installed the nvidia graphics drivers04:54
zerboxxjcfreak: thanks, I'll check those out04:54
dabarand see if your partitions are there.04:54
tomajpunkass well then you shouldnt need to worry because it hasnt changed??04:54
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punkasstomaj: but thats the problem..it did04:54
tomajthen you saved it...04:54
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IkzannI just wiped my HD.04:55
muffin_lol04:55
lwizardli want to format my second hd04:55
tomajfollow dabar's advice, he probably knows more than me04:55
muffin_doesnt sound fun04:55
Ice9can anybody help me getting my ATI radeon 9250 working with 3d support?04:55
punkassdabar: only have /dev/hda1 linux        /dev/hda2 Extended  /dev/hda5 Linux LVM04:55
lwizardland automount it04:55
IkzannClone Backups = wonderful.04:55
tomajis it possible that the kernel source provided from ubuntu is a different version to the binary version?04:55
dabartomaj: not likely.04:55
muffin_whats the bash command for deleting a file?04:55
dabarheh04:55
punkassdabar: and in hda5 i have: 56 gig /dev/Ubuntu/root and /dev/Ubuntu/swap_104:55
Ikzannrm04:56
Ikzannmuffin_: rm04:56
dabarpunkass: were those the ones you had before the inadvertent breezy install?04:56
muffin_thx04:56
Ikzannrm -r to delete a folder recursively04:56
dabarman rm, info rm04:56
dabarthose will tell you how to use rm.04:56
dabaraltho...:/ using rm...hm...this is hard...04:56
punkassdabar i dont believe so...as i had an fc4 install on there..and i assume they wouldnt name the lvm Ubuntu04:56
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tomajdabar i'm following the wiki guide but its having a version issue looking into abi folder because it wants to find a 2.6.19-34.4 but the folder that actually exists is 2.6.20-34.204:57
Maddyhello04:57
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tomaj2.6.10 for all of the above lol04:57
punkassdabar: But the confusing thing is that I didnt think that Ubuntu set up the partitions using LVM04:57
jamie3290dabar: dan ?04:57
Maddycan somebody explain me the sens of this sentence: And Don't it Feel Good04:57
ssdd65im having alot of issues geting my network up can anyone help?04:57
dabarjamie3290: ya, wassup?04:58
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jamie3290dabar: hey man its jamie. from work04:58
dabarya, I thought so:)04:58
muffin_Ikzann, thx rm -r did it :)04:58
jamie3290yesterday was my last day.04:58
dabarhows it going? i dont see you often.04:58
dabarah.04:58
dabarthat is why...04:58
IkzannYou're welcome.04:58
dabar /join #ubuntu-offtopic04:58
jamie3290k04:58
Ice9can anybody help me getting my ATI radeon 9250 working with 3d support?04:59
ssdd65i need help with my network can anyone help?04:59
tomajice9 check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%2905:00
Ice9dont that05:00
Ice9done*05:00
ssdd65my netwotk is "up" according to ubuntu but i cant ping or anything05:00
tomajwhats the problem?05:00
tomajssdd65 are u using the right ip's?05:01
ssdd65yea there all static05:01
muffin_is there a way to hadle files as root in a gui file manager???05:01
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Ice9when I do the modprobe -r fglrx, it says operation not permitted05:01
tomajssdd65 are they right?05:01
ssdd65i tryed dhcp and it didnt work eather05:01
jcfreakmuffin_: sudo nautilus05:01
tomajum ice9 you have to remove the radeon module first05:01
ssdd65there right as far as i know05:01
Ice9right, I did that05:02
muffin_jcfreak, wow ^^, thx05:02
tomajum05:02
tomajice9 try rebooting and going into recovery mode then doing the modprobe05:02
youngcodertomaj, how do i run the installo file from cedega?05:03
tomajssdd65 im not sure what the problem is, have you changed anything hardware wise from your last working install?05:03
tomajyoungcoder are you using cvscedega or the pay one?05:03
youngcoderpay one05:03
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ssdd65no i was never able to have ubuntu connect to my router05:03
tomajcedega /cdrom/install.exe or setup.exe or whatever it is05:04
tomajssdd65 why dont you use dhcp?05:04
ssdd65i tryed05:04
ssdd65it wouldnt give me a ip05:04
ssdd65for some reason it refuses to talk to my comp at all05:05
ssdd65:(05:05
tomajnot sure ssdd65 sorry cant help05:05
ssdd65k thanks anyway05:05
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Doonzis there a program to turn .img files into iso???05:06
IkzannIs there any way you can get USB printer sharing to work between an Ubuntu host and a Mac OS X client?05:06
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zerboxxFor starters, I don't run gnome.  Now, when my computer starts up, all my fonts are really small, but if I run gnome-fonts-properties they all go back to the correct size, why is this?05:07
goldenfoxbrb guys ... need to reboot05:07
dabarok, se you soon05:08
dabarneeds to reboot.05:08
youngcoderwhen trying to install tyo cedega i keep getting a run-time error05:08
nickrudIkzann, I was looking for something else, but maybe this can help you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromMacOSX05:08
youngcoderanyone got any ideas?05:08
dabaryoungcoder: have you asked #cedega?05:08
IkzannThanks.05:08
youngcoderdabar, thank you05:08
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dabaryoungcoder: ya, welcome05:09
dabar!cedega05:09
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega05:09
dabar!ask the bot05:09
ubotuit has been said that ask the bot is to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example.05:09
kelseydoes anyone know what directory to install the Java Runtime Enviroment in (I am using 5.04)??05:09
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tristanmikeCan anyone help me on a sound issue?05:09
firebird611Hi, does anyone know if there is a newer version of the PCTel modem Linux driver. The latest I can find is 0.9.7-9 and that driver does not support the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. I read on the Internet somewhere that there was a driver that supported the 2.6.x kernel but the site I read it on did not give a link as to where to download the driver from.05:10
dabarkelsey: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:10
kelseythank you05:10
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andrea_adfjkl;05:11
youngcodergood luck getting help in #cedega05:12
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muffin_is there a iTunes music client for linux?05:15
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socommmuffin_: Negative.05:15
eliUbuntuanyone here use enlightenment?05:15
socommLet me add a caveat to that answer, no `official' iTMS clients.05:16
eliUbuntuno enlightenment users?05:16
eliUbuntu=(05:16
socommeliUbuntu: The world is such a big place, I'm sure someone somewhere use e.05:16
oddjobwould anyone know how I would add lots of restrictions.. like making ps only show processes belonging to the user.. and stopping access to things like /var/log/wtmp?05:17
socommWhy don't you give #elightenment a try?05:17
eliUbuntui have it all setup. figured almost all the loopholes and now its just one module im stuck on05:17
CodeusHow can I make ntfs drives/partitions writable?05:17
eliUbuntuit works awesome05:17
muffin_i mean only a music player which can support the itunes shared music over lan05:17
eliUbuntufaster than metacity05:17
tristanmikeCodeus: YOU DO NOT WANT TO05:17
eliUbuntuand much more beautiful05:17
socommmuffin_: All you would really need is the AAC codec for playback and perhaps a player like rhythmbox, or xmms.05:18
jcfreakCodeus: i've done it using captiveNTFS without a problem05:18
Agrajagtristanmike: of course he wants to, you should explain to him why it is a bad idea05:18
Codeusjcfreak/tristanmike: would it be easier if i just formatted it as a FAT32?05:18
tristanmikeAgrajag: No, he should just accept it, like the gods05:18
socommCodeus: That's not advisable, since that could potentially hose your NTFS partition.05:18
jcfreakCodeus: that would be WAY better05:19
Agrajagoh ok05:19
oddjobwould anyone know how I would add lots of restrictions.. like making ps only show processes belonging to the user.. and stopping access to things like /var/log/wtmp?05:19
Codeusheh wow, so linux doesn't work well with ntfs, why?05:19
Dimedoes anyone know how to install iWeather into gdesklets/05:19
Dime?05:19
tristanmikeCodeus: most people who need to talk to NTFS and Linux have a seperate FAT32 partition05:19
socommCodeus: Yes, try setting up a FAT32 partition for swapping files between Win32 and *nix.05:19
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socommDime: /join #gdesklets05:19
moshedoes anyone know how to switch window managers in gnome?05:19
Codeusall right05:19
Agrajagbecause ntfs is not documented05:19
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tristanmikeCodeus: it's an extra step, but worth it05:19
Codeusoh i see05:19
Agrajagand changes with each release of windows05:19
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socommmoshe: Use gconf-editor.05:20
Agrajagthough XP has been out for long enough that it's finally being slowly reverse-engineered05:20
Codeusall right, i suppose its time to format then :)05:20
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Dimeno one is in #gdesklets05:20
muffin_socomm, but how can i connect to itunes with rhythmbox? i think the itunes protocoll is too complex, you are able to browse the libary. its not just stream. can rhythmbox handle that?05:20
jcfreakDime: are you having a problem w/ gdesklets?05:21
tristanmikeCodeus: If you did write to it, which is possible, I suppose, you are in VERY serious risk of wrecking your 2000/XP05:21
socommmuffin_: Perhaps using samba?05:21
CodeusWhats a good tool to format FAT32 partitions that both Windows and Ubuntu will be able to use?05:21
socomm!samba05:21
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ubotusamba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:21
Dimeno its with installing a app for gdesklets05:21
Dimei want to get iWeather installed05:21
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muffin_socomm, apple file protocol would be better05:22
eliUbuntuis iWeather an app inside of gdesklets?05:22
muffin_socomm, do you know if theres a client for ubuntu?05:22
socommmuffin_: I would suggest just sharing the music files over samba, since you are using MS-Windows.05:22
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Dimeits a app for inside of gdesklets05:23
Dimei want to install it05:23
eliUbuntuok05:23
muffin_socomm, os x05:23
moshesocomm, after making the change, do I have to restart gnome or can I simply killall metacity?05:23
eliUbuntuyou can do it via gdesklets05:23
socommmuffin_: Like I said there is no official client, you should try searching for a thirdpart application.05:23
Doonzis there a program to turn .img files into iso?05:23
jcfreakCodeus: you could probably do sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdd[drive #] 05:23
eliUbuntuyou have to go to its installation option and then go to the url install05:23
socommmoshe: I would just restart GNOME.05:23
moshethanks05:23
mosheI'll try that05:23
eliUbuntuyou can place the location of the gdesklet app you found on the internet05:23
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jcfreakDime: did you try installing using the gdesklets daemon?05:24
tristanmikewhen downloading themes from gnome-look, which ones can I use if I'm running a default Ubuntu set up05:24
Dimeyes05:24
satafterhi have a generial question, aside from looks are there any reasons one would use kde or gnone05:24
jcfreakDime: what happened?05:24
eliUbuntugnome is faster and more stable05:24
IcemanV9Dime: it's fairly straightforward .. d/l iWeather .. run gDesklets shell .. drag & drop iWeather tar file onto gDesklets shell05:25
tristanmikekde is flashier, or so I gather05:25
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letme0utkde is evil05:25
tristanmikelol05:25
Dimeok05:25
^Ocean^Any way to make Xfree86 or the Nvidia driver out put in Black and white mode on a color Monitor instead of Full color ?05:25
IkzannDoonz: Try man mkisofs (I think that's what it is). That might not convert directy but you could mount it and then try.05:25
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satafterhOk, thanks. can I install gnone in kubuntu as I have just gotten mp pc to run the way i like and dont wont to mess it it05:26
tristanmikeso which ones? gtk1, gtk2, metacity, none, all?05:26
jamie3290Ocean: just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that ?05:26
jcfreaktristanmike: i usually go w/ gtk205:26
tristanmikejcfreak, they'd be ok for a default Ubuntu installation?05:27
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tristanmikehow do I know what X-Window manager I'm using?05:27
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aukkde is evil05:27
jcfreaktristanmike: yeah, i'm using several, right now i'm using "d3a"05:27
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bob2tristanmike: you're using metacity05:28
bob2tristanmike: and it's a "window manager", not a X-Window manager05:28
auktristanmike: default ubuntu desktop (not kubuntu, mind you) is gtk2, gnome, metacity05:28
rRubinIm havin some kinda weird gnome-session problem. after successfull login, it just hangs on the orange screen.05:28
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tristanmikebob, oh, sorry, I'm a Linux Virgin05:29
moshesocomm, that didn't quite work.05:29
rRubingnome-session is in the ps list but it never comes up. its hanging on somethin05:29
socommmoshe: Did you set the new wm using gconf-editor?05:29
tristanmikebob2, that is, sorry05:29
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mosheI changed /desktop.gnome/applications/window_manager from metacity to sawfish, and metacity still loaded up by default, and I do have sawfish installed.05:29
socommmoshe: I'm assuming that you've installed sawfish.05:29
mosheI installed it before I showed up here the first time.05:30
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tristanmikeso I should look for the metacity themes?05:30
socommmoshe: You could try setting using the full path to the binary.05:30
mosheI type killall metacity and metacity starts up again automatically.05:30
moshethat's an interesting idea.05:30
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Biscuitian_WarheI have a Realtek High Definition Audio Sound Card, how do i  get ALSA and sound to work in Ubuntu05:30
moshethanks.  I'll give it a show05:30
socommmoshe: Yeah, GNOME is still using metacity as it's WM.05:30
crimsunBiscuitian_Warhe: you need to compile the snd_azx driver using the instructions I'm going to send you.05:30
crimsun!tell Biscuitian_Warhe about alsa-source05:31
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Ice9k I'm 3d support still isn't working for my ati radeon 925005:32
satafterhcan you have kde and gnome on ubuntu??05:32
crimsunsatafterh: absolutely. On Ubuntu, install kubuntu-desktop. On Kubuntu, install ubuntu-desktop.05:33
satafterhin kpackage?05:33
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Ice9whats the deal with this ati stuff? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27506.html05:33
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Ice9that dude is having the same problem as me05:33
crimsunsatafterh: in kynaptic, sure.05:33
Biscuitian_WarheWell, so far so good, just gotta wait for dialup to finish, thanks crimsun05:34
satafterhwhats the lastest verson of gnome?05:34
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ginipighey guys, is it safe to remove all of the games from an ubuntu installation?05:34
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Dreamer31ginipig: sure05:34
crimsunBiscuitian_Warhe: np05:34
ginipigDreamer31: how'd i be able to do that?05:34
Dreamer31ginipig: i dunno05:35
ginipigDreamer31: :o05:35
Dreamer31ginipig: apt-get remove game-package-name?05:35
Dreamer31ginipig: but then yuo're break the default "ubuntu-desktop" package05:35
ginipigDreamer31: are you familiar with any "slim ubuntu down" guides?05:35
ginipigDreamer31: that's what I meant by safely05:35
ginipigDreamer31: less breakage the better :)05:35
Dreamer31ginipig: no05:36
Dreamer31ginipig: what is your goal?05:36
uglysmurf_anyone know why when i try to remove evolution it offers 'ubuntu-desktop'?05:36
Dreamer31ubuntu is not the best slim desktop distro05:36
ginipigDreamer31: remove unneeded apps, without it being reinstalled during apt-procedures05:36
Dreamer31ubuntu: evolution is part of ubuntu desktop?05:36
ginipigDreamer31: I'm aware of that. I'm trying to work with what I have, though05:36
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uglysmurf_sudo apt-get remove evolution offers to remove: evolution evolution-exchange ubuntu-desktop05:37
Dreamer31ginipig: i dunno then05:37
ginipigthanks05:37
Dreamer31breaking the default packagin is messy so i never tried05:37
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Dreamer31ginipig: uglysmurf_ is seeing what you would see05:37
Dreamer31ubuntu: you can't remove evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop, because it depends on evolution05:37
ginipigDreamer31: i know05:37
ginipigDreamer31: that's what initiated this conversation :)05:37
uglysmurfi need to read up more then...i thought evolution was just an email client05:38
ginipiguglysmurf: much much more05:38
Dreamer31ah05:38
ginipiguglysmurf: i'm looking to remove certain components as well05:38
Dreamer31ubuntu: it is05:38
ginipiguglysmurf: i'll /q you if i find anything interesting05:38
Dreamer31uglysmurf: but everything default is included in ubuntu-desktop05:38
uglysmurfginipig, ty05:38
Dreamer31uglysmurf: you can't remove anything without breaking ubuntu-desktop05:38
f[a] ce:o05:38
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uglysmurfDreamer31, what do you mean by 'anything'?05:39
ginipigwhat if you modify the meta-package to ignore certain components?05:39
Dreamer31ginipig: the right solution is to create a new ubuntu-desktop package that you install with your desired depends05:39
ginipigit is a meta-package, after all, isn't it?05:39
Dreamer31uglysmurf: anything that's default05:39
Dreamer31ginipig: that's the right idea05:39
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ginipigDreamer31: very much so. Unfortunately, I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to do that, seeing as how I've never dabbled with apt-packaging ;)05:40
Ice9what gives with my ati 9250? I can't get 3d support at all05:40
ginipigDreamer31: I'll attempt it, though; it'll be an educational experience05:40
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satafterhi have an amd cpu, is there any benifit to having k7 kerenl installed?05:41
Dreamer31ginipig: read the debian package maintainers guide05:41
Dreamer31ginipig: creating a dummy meta package should be too hard05:41
ginipigDreamer31: + 'nt?05:41
ginipign't, rather05:42
Dreamer31ginipig: give it a name like ubuntu-slim-desktop... then you can just uninstall one and replace it with the other and if you use aptitude all the software should automatically be removed05:42
Dreamer31ginipig: yes05:42
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CodeusSo now I have this vfat (fat32) formatted partition. I did a "sudo nautilus" and browsed to "/mnt" and then I right clicked on the partition and hit properties -> permissions, but when i tried to select write  it wouldn't let me check it05:42
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ksmurfhow in the heck do i install the nvidia driver on breezy?05:42
ginipigCodeus: permissions05:42
ginipigCodeus: who owns the mount point?05:42
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charlieHi05:42
Codeusginipig, root05:42
Codeusginipig, i can mess with the "read" column05:43
Codeusginipig, but not the write05:43
ginipigCodeus: is it mounted rw? or ro?05:43
ksmurfCodeus.... u can't change the permisions on a fat32 drive05:43
Ice9I'm trying to get 3d support on my ati 9250 and it seems like I've tried everything, can somebody please walk me through it?05:43
charlieI need mpeg support05:43
CodeusOhmer, no clue how it is mounted05:43
ginipigCodeus: mount | grep vfat05:43
charliehello05:44
ginipigCodeus: it's possible for you to modify /etc/fstab, and add a 'rw' option, i believe05:44
setitehey does this page work for anyone http://boards.cityofheroes.com/05:44
ksmurfsudo mount /dev/hd* /home/././whatever -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=00005:44
Codeus/dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0222)05:44
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setiteim not getting the text body of the page... and the scroll bar is there with no bar so im missing something that is necessary05:45
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LaserJockdoes anybody know if there is a irc channel for Breezy?05:45
ksmurfthe umask is wrong05:45
ginipig022?05:45
socomm#ubuntu-devel maybe?05:45
jamie3290Codeus: try editing your fstab and add 'user' to your options05:45
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CodeusOhmer, so it should be umask=00005:45
Codeusoh*05:45
jamie3290then do not mount the drive as root05:45
setiteyea LaserJock  what socomm said05:45
ginipigjamie3290: he's navigating via sudo nautilus05:45
Ice9!ati05:45
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:45
LaserJockthanks05:45
BJWOMG BAN Me05:45
tristanmikeCodeus: look at this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42845 the great people gave me a step by step05:45
ginipigdo it, op05:46
bjvso how do you refresh a network interface after editing /etc/network/interfaces?05:46
IcemanV9setite: the page works05:46
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bjvwithout restarting the machine. :\05:46
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BJWOP PLEASE KICK ME05:46
ginipigifup?05:46
setiteIcemanV9: do you see the text on the right...05:46
charlieHello I need Mpeg support05:46
BJWgay05:46
charlieI am a newbie jsut installed05:46
ginipighow do i ignore by hostmasks in irssi?05:46
setiteBJW: do you have issues... just leave if you want out05:46
IcemanV9the "last post" ?05:46
ginipigcharlie: what's the problem05:46
jcfreakcharlie: www.ubuntuguide.org05:46
Madpilot!mpg05:47
ubotuMadpilot: Syntax error in line 105:47
tristanmikesetite: I'm there too05:47
CodeusOk, now how can I copy a folder?05:47
Madpilotubotu tell charlie about restricted05:47
bjvginipig: gosh thanks, i kept getting errors trying ifdown first. didnt think to just move on to ifup. :(05:47
charlieI want to see videos on totem05:47
ginipigbjv: happens to the best of us05:47
Codeusnautilus weirded out when I tried selecting a folder and hitting "ctrl+c" then going to the desstination and hitting "ctrl+v"05:47
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ginipigbjv: :)05:47
tristanmikeCodeus: If everything is set up right, you should be able to just drag and drop05:47
ksmurfcharlie ... check out the ubuntu guide05:47
Madpilotcharlie: follow that link that ubotu just sent you05:47
charlieok thanks05:48
ksmurfcan anyone help me with the nvidia driver for breezy?05:48
setiteunder firefox?05:48
tristanmikesetite: yest05:48
setiteok if you guys can see text on all those flash pages then im missing something05:48
IcemanV9setite: yep. it looks good.05:48
Madpilotsetite: install the MS core fonts05:48
setiteok05:48
ooklaanyone know how to load sound modules? new ubuntu did not find sound (on board)?05:48
tristanmikesetite: it's just a form looks nice tho05:48
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iiiearssetite - Are you missing text in some flash apps too? - saw that on the boxejam site.05:49
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setitedont have any flash apps to my knowledge05:49
setiteshow me the boxejam site you speak of05:49
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Deltaspectrehow would I go about installing aclocal?05:49
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dalamarhow do I get multiverse repo installed? I followed the wiki on the repositoryhowto and got universe selected but I dont see any optin for multiverse?05:51
thoreauputic!tell setite about info msttcorefonts05:51
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CodeusHow should I go about setting up the FAT32 partition to where Apache2 can host files off of it?05:51
CodeusI have Apache2 all set up05:51
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setitethoreauputic: come on... there you go again... im a noob but i spend enough time in here to know how to find stuff05:51
CodeusBut it keeps saying forbidden when i try to access05:51
iiiearsMadpilot - has a solution worth trying.    (jittery from going cold turkey on a Strike a Match addiction. - lol)05:51
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thoreauputicsetite: sorry.... :(05:52
setitethanks but im already close to done downloading them05:52
setiteno problem thoreauputic05:52
setitei love nick autocompletion05:52
tristanmikeCodeus: did you look at the website I showed you?05:52
Codeusyep05:52
thoreauputicsetite: i don't always remember who is who ;)05:52
tristanmikeCodeus: still can't write?05:52
setiteam i able to create a wiki?05:52
ksmurfok if no one can help me with nvidia and breezy how about NFS between hoary and breezy?05:52
Deltaspectreanyone: aclocal?05:53
setitethoreauputic: yea i can understand that....05:53
Codeustristanmike, it will write fine now :)05:53
thoreauputic:)05:53
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Ice9I'm trying to get 3d support on my ati 9250 and it seems like I've tried everything, can somebody please walk me through it?05:53
Codeusbut it won't host files off of it05:53
lancellorubuntu is not recognizing my new hard drive05:53
setitei want to submit a wiki on how to get a certain v620 evdo card working05:53
ooklaanyone know how to load sound modules? new ubuntu did not find sound (on board)?05:53
ooklaplease :)05:53
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ksmurfookla ... what card?05:53
lancelloriput dis hard drive as a slave  but i don't see it05:54
setiteNONE of the available tutorials i found work... but i figured out what they are missing and have my card working... and would love to submit a tutorial to the ubuntu wiki so that no one has to spend the hairpulling time i did05:54
jamie3290Codeus: you need to put the files into apaches directory that it serves files from05:54
setitelancellor: is your main drive actually set as a master?05:54
ooklaksmurf, onboard sound05:54
ksmurfsetite put a post in the forums05:54
Madpilotsetite: wiki.ubuntu.com - get a login and go nuts!05:54
tristanmikeCodeus: Double check on this, but you may need to run Apache2 as a super user, but double check05:54
setitelancellor: my windows buddy just had that problem05:54
jcfreakCodeus: have you set up a virtual directory?05:54
CodeusI have Apache2 set up to serve files from this /mnt/hdb1 that is formatted as a FAT3205:55
tristanmikethere ya go,05:55
lancelloryes sir05:55
ooklaksmurf, sis I believe, knoppix found no prob ubuntu failed :(05:55
CodeusYeah, it was working before when it was an NTFS partition05:55
setiteMadpilot: thanks... yea i will post and add to the wiki... i find it odd that there is no mention of true wireless mobile on the wiki05:55
Codeusthen I formatted it to a FAT3205:55
ksmurfnp ... One sec05:55
Codeusand then copied the same folder right back onto it05:55
lancellori have ubuntu installed on master and storage drive is on alave05:55
setiteand its odd that NO one in here seems to have true wireless05:55
setitebut then again its expensive... and that would stop alot of linuxants05:56
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Octanehow can i get an application, which i run from the command line, to output to a text file05:57
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Deltaspectreoctane: I know that one in windows!05:57
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Deltaspectrebut not sure if its the same in linux05:57
Octanei know app > file.txt05:57
Octanebut that doent work :)05:57
Deltaspectre:(05:57
Octanei got it05:57
Octaneits app &> txt05:57
Madpilotsetite: I'm still using 50' of CAT5 here! much easier!05:57
setitewell no amount of cat5 is sufficient05:58
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cafuegothe OH&S department doesn't like 50' of cat505:58
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setitei work security... and right now im in the middle of a parking lot 30 some miles from my house05:58
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ksmurfwill someone help me setup NFS between hoary and breezy?05:59
setiteits not bad... it can play online games better than dialup... and it can download over 100kb/s when it wants to05:59
cafuegoI swear, it's as if you're sitting in a 747 at takeoff05:59
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Madpilotsetite: that's impressive... I know spit about wireless, true or not - but by all means add stuff to the wiki!05:59
lancellorhow do i do to set up a slave hard drive for storage06:01
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iiiearsMadpilot - msttcorefonts  includes the fonts themselves or just the tools to install them from another source (windows installation?)06:02
tristanmikeI just installed metacity-themes from the repository but they haven't ended up in my themes menu, anyone know why?06:02
cafuegoiiiears: It downlaods the conts from sourceforge and then installs thgem using cabextract06:03
Madpilotiiiears: the fonts themselves06:03
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cafuego!info msttcorefonts06:03
Madpilotcafuego: eh, OK. is it just an installer? doesn't say as much in the package description06:03
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB06:03
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cafuegoSee, they'll never even fit ONE font in 160Kb06:03
iiiearsMadpilot - Ah okay, thank you. - patents, patents, patents, - bah who needs 'em. - lol06:03
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ksmurfanyone?  help setting up a network between this breesy and hoary... please?06:04
cafuegoMadpilot: See also 'Installer for ...' ;-)06:04
CodeusAnyone else have a problem where like they got their printer driver installed and working, but they can only print one page before the printer starts flashing error?06:04
cafuegoiiiears: copying yer TTF fonts to ~/.fonts works fine too, btw.06:04
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Madpilotcafuego: yeah, just caught that. Has MS really released these things for free, or are they copies?06:04
iiiearscafuego - nice tip.06:04
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zero_oi06:05
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cafuegoMadpilot: They WERE released at some stage, but retracted later.06:05
tristanmikedoes anyone know how to use the "metacity-themes" package from synaptic??06:05
cafuegoMadpilot: Still, if you have a copy of the original release (like on sf.net) they original license applies :-)06:05
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iiiearsMadpilot - yeah sure.. NOW you tell me.... - lol06:06
Madpilotcafuego: interesting... licensing is fun stuff...06:06
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Madpilothttp://bancomicsans.com/  :)06:06
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deufohi peeps, can someone help me get firefox to read chinese?06:07
deufoit displasys it as a block with numbers inside rite now06:07
iiiearscopyrighted fonts? - aw c'mon. what kind of hocus pocus is that. - copyright a business logo but a font? - blegh.06:08
deufoi got the firefox chinese locales already06:08
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EasterSunshinedeufo have you installed any fonts with big5 chars or unicode chars?06:08
ksmurfhow do I setup NFS06:09
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Madpilotiiiears: actually, you've got a point, fonts themselves are hard/imposible to copyright - but you can still copyright the names and such...06:09
ksmurf!NFS06:09
ubotuksmurf: Syntax error in line 106:09
ksmurf!networking06:09
ubotuksmurf: I don't know06:09
tristanmikeiiiears: the majority of Adobe's fonts are copyrighted06:09
misfit_toyzzzzzzzlater06:09
deufoEasterSunshine, yea, in firefox under view and characters, i have big4 and stuff06:09
cafuego!listvals nfs06:09
ubotuFactoid search of 'nfs' by value returned no results.06:09
cafuego!listkeys nfs06:10
ubotuFactoid search of 'nfs' by key returned no results.06:10
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esaci have an ALPS touchpad, and it doesn't seem to be working in X, any ideas ?06:10
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EasterSunshinehow do i quickly find out what ip a hostname resolves to?06:11
raDeonEasterSunshine /dns hostname06:11
deufoEasterSunshine, ping it?06:11
zerboxxhow do I see what my ip is (both what the "outside" world sees, and what my router sees)??06:11
cafuego!nfs is Pick a machine to be NFS server. Install either the nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server, you will also need portmap and possibly ugidd (for mapping account IDs) Configure /etc/exports on the server and /etc/fstab on the clients. (man exports, man fstab)06:11
ubotucafuego: okay06:11
EasterSunshinesend /dns to the freenode server?06:12
EasterSunshineit returns: [481]  This command is for network staff only06:12
raDeonhuh06:12
raDeonworks for me06:12
cafuegoEasterSunshine: /exec host <hostname>06:12
ksmurfcafuego thanks06:13
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EasterSunshinecafuego: i get [DCOP]  Error: Could not find script "host". i am on konversation, btw06:13
cafuegoksmurf: if you need uid mapping between other OSes, you will probably need a static uid/gid map per hostname (that requires the nfs-user-server)06:13
cafuegoEasterSunshine: 1) get a decent client.06:14
dabarYay, raDeon!06:14
tristanmikecan someone please help me with a dumb question?06:14
cafuegoEasterSunshine: 2) open a shell, type 'host <hostname>'. If that faisl, 'sudo apt-get install dnsutils' and try again,06:14
dabarI dunno, I like that guy...has the spirit...06:14
EasterSunshineoh, that explains, i just had debfoster remove dsnutils06:14
EasterSunshinethx cafuego06:15
cafuegozerboxx: www.cafuego.net/ip.php will tell you your outside works ip.06:15
cafuegos/works/world/06:16
cafuegozerboxx: Sorry, www.cc.com.au/ip.php06:16
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zerboxxand my router ip?06:16
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cafuegozerboxx: 'route -n'06:16
craigevildoes anyone know how to get wesnoth 0.9.5 in Hoary?06:16
zerboxxcafuego: Thanks a ton for both, weird that my internal ip is .1, I thought it was .101 or .10006:17
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iiiears<< Gleeful laugh - Boxerjam Strike a Match and Out of Order work better in linux. sure missed the site. - thanks guys. Madpilot.06:18
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cafuegozerboxx: 'route -n' will have given you the ROUTER ip. Check your own with 'ifconfig'06:18
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zerboxxcafuego: ah that's what I was looking for :D thanks06:19
dabarwhy does my hard drive not have any more space?06:19
dabarjj..06:19
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cafuegodabar: it's little06:19
dabarheh06:19
Madpilotdabar: remove some of that p0rn, that might help... ;)06:19
MoB_hi all, have someone make ogle work? i have an audio problem06:19
dabarim about to...06:20
dabarobvious solution...06:20
MoB_Madpilot: lol06:20
lancellorcan anybody guide me to how set up a slave hard drive for storage with ubuntu???06:20
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dabarthats stupid anyhow06:21
craigevilI want to play wesnoth online but the server requires 0.9.506:21
dabarhow again? just sudo deborphan?06:21
iiiearslancellor - storage or backing up files?06:21
lancellorjust storage06:21
MoB_lancellor: do you have it plugged in your PC?06:21
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lancellori have a 10 gig hards drive for linux and i installed a 8o gig for storage but i don't see it06:22
lancelloryes06:22
MoB_lancellor: did you mount it?06:22
Madpilotlancellor: seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive06:22
cafuegolancellor: You need to 1) connect it 2) fdisk it 3) mkfs it 4) mount it.06:22
iiiears!winmac_fstab06:22
ubotuiiiears: Do they come in packets of five?06:22
iiiears!winmac-fstab06:22
ubotuiiiears: Are you on ritalin?06:22
MoB_plz someone help me with OGLE06:22
cafuegoconfusius say four easy steps to pr0nlightenment06:22
lancellorlet me check the web site ok? thanks06:22
Madpilotheh. cafuego, is it "on ritalin" now instead of "on crack"?06:23
cafuego!tell iiiears -about ntfs06:23
cafuegoMadpilot: No, I just added a few06:23
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iiiearswww.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  - mounts and edits fstab06:23
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MoB_another question, have anyone knows how to recover a ntfs partition from ubuntu?06:24
cafuegoiiiears: Not for useful filesystems, though.06:24
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dabarit was that DVD I just copied over to my hard drive06:24
dabaranyhow...06:24
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MoB_i just can't mount it, boot it, :{06:24
iiiearscafuego ?? - "useful filesystems"06:24
cafuegoiiiears: ext2 and ext3.06:25
Agrajagext2 is hardly useful06:25
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cafuegoAgrajag: liar. come here and say that!06:25
craigevilnoone knows how to get Wesnoth 0.9.5 in Hoary?06:25
jimbo_hello06:25
dabaryo06:25
AgrajagI'll get all my dead ext2 partitions to say it06:25
dabarcraigevil: it appears so06:25
dabarIm trying to download the breezy new iso, we'll check that out on some partition...06:26
cafuegoiiiears: I'll rephrase it to "filesystems with normal file/directory permission support"06:26
jimbo_I'm trying to get my Rt2500 to work, I miss my wireless connection06:26
jimbo_<-----New guy06:26
cafuegoAgrajag: Just coz YOU can't keep a box running doesn't mean ext2 isn't useful ;-)06:26
iiiearscafuego - lol - i am easily lost. - wide grin06:26
iiiearsgot it06:26
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iiiearsWelcome jimbo :)06:27
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jimbo_I have the file to enable it, just how do I compile it and get it to connect06:27
cafuegos raining06:27
dabarcafuego: cause it is a weather applet for a computer...06:27
jimbo_I'm so new to linux on pc, I had it on my Xbox for a long time06:28
cafuegodabar: Exactly. It NEVER rains inside!06:28
dabarits purpose is to make you go out finally, unglue you from the computer.06:28
Madpilotcafuego: check the time of that report, I've noticed that my applets are regularly 2hrs behind06:28
thoreauputiccafuego: the weather applet is always right - there must be a fault in your perception of reality ;)06:28
iiiearscafuego - bad "'net weather" - nothing to do with "real" weather.06:28
cafuegoMadpilot: It hasn't rained all day, though.06:28
dabarhaha, thoreauputic.06:28
jimbo_lol, it rained here06:28
Madpilotcafuego: even odder. got the right station set?06:28
cafuegoMadpilot: yep06:28
zerboxxIf I'm not running X, how do I shutdown my computer?06:28
thoreauputiczerboxx: sudo shutdown -h now06:29
zerboxxthoreauputic: -h now?06:29
thoreauputicor just " sudo halt"06:29
cafuegoOh I see what's going on. it somehow assumes "Melbourne" is teh tard suburbs, as opposed to the city.06:29
thoreauputiczerboxx: yup06:29
iiiearsshutdown -h or -r now   h=halt r=reboot06:29
zerboxxiiiears: ah thanks06:29
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thoreauputiczerboxx:  man shutdown  *grin*06:30
iiiearstyping "quit damn you!" in a console never works06:30
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dabarI made a ask factoid, from what apt has on #debian...06:31
cafuego!factinfo ask06:31
ubotuask -- created by dabaR <n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-56-191.dynamic.mts.net> 5d 11h 25m 17s ago; it has been requested 12 times, last by dabar, 2h 42m 51s ago.06:31
thoreauputiciiiears: yeah, the *nix guys should have implemented that06:31
dabarit references a cool page tutorial about asking questions...06:31
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dabarheh, created by dabar, last requested by dabar...06:31
esac_i have an ALPS touchpad, and it doesn't seem to be working in X, any ideas ?06:31
zerboxxiiiears: I did try something along those lines, but had to hard restart, which I HATE doing06:31
cafuegothoreauputic: There's nothing stopping $LUSER from aliasing commands :-)06:32
cafuegothoreauputic: alias quit='shutdown -rn now You Lose'06:32
thoreauputiccafuego: indeed - to simulae windows accurately, you could set default runlevel to 6 as well - the wonders of power ;)06:32
dabarheh06:33
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cafuegothoreauputic: mapping shutdown to the right mouse button is also always popular.06:33
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tristanmikecan anyone help me with a sound issue?06:33
thoreauputiccafuego: hahah - that's truly evil !06:33
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iiiearscan you set ubuntu to spinal tap run level "11"?06:33
Madpilotcafuego: that's brutal... I like it!06:34
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cafuegothoreauputic: Nearly as bad a saving an applexcript in the startup folder on an old mac: Tell Application "Finder"; Shutdown; End Tell06:34
dabaryou know what is an idea I always have?06:34
dabarto /join #ubuntu as for example sound(if you are crimmy/daniel...) and then your window always shows you when someone mentions your specialty...06:35
dabarah?06:35
dabarnice, eh?06:35
cafuegoOr the good old desktop-with-running-app-with-error-notification desktop background06:35
dabarheh06:36
Madpilotcafuego: I had something like that on my old Win98 box. Used to puzzle the heck out of anyone else who used the computer...06:36
thoreauputiccafuego: the BSOD xscreensaver is pretty scary too06:36
dabaror evebn better, cayuse that wont woirk on IRC....06:36
cafuegothoreauputic: Yes, I once enabled that on a demo Linux box at a tradeshow - didn't go down too well ;-)06:36
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dabarallow to subscribe yourself to things like someone saying sound, if you are the sound expert in the channel, ...06:37
dabaridea?06:37
thoreauputiccafuego: how to win friends and influence people ... *g*06:37
ksmurfcafuego NFS is above my head.... I went back to samba06:37
dabarnoone likes my awesome idea for that?06:37
cafuegothoreauputic: Also cool: cron job that prints ^G to /dev/console06:37
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RemyHomehowdy folks!06:37
RemyHomegot a quick question.06:37
dabarYou guys seriously dont see the benefit in what I am saying?06:38
RemyHomehow do you add to the $PATH variable in UBUNTU ?06:38
dabaror jsut not getting the idea?06:38
thoreauputicdabar: some guy uses the nick radeon - he's ultra annoying "someone called me? WTF? ..." etc etc06:38
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dabaradd to /etc/bash.bashrc06:38
ksmurfshoot REMY06:38
speelsudo: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found06:38
speel how is that possible??06:38
RemyHomeahk06:38
dabarright, I know that... thoreauputic, but, he is just stupid:) or being funny,...06:38
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cafuegoRemyHome: edit etc/profile (systemwide) or $HOME/.bashrc (just you)06:38
ksmurfask Remy06:39
thoreauputicdabar: trying to be funny... succeeding only in being... trying06:39
cafuegospeel: head -1 ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run06:39
dabarbut, like, for example, you know how to fix pppoe, and so you subscruibe to that word in the channel, and your client notifies you just as tho someone said your name...06:39
cafuegospeel: does it mention csh at all?06:39
dabarI like him.06:39
speelno06:39
Doonzdabar highlight06:39
cafuegospeel: What did it print?06:39
speel#!/bin/sh06:39
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cafuegospeel: What happens when you run "sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run" ?06:40
dabarDoonz: what?06:40
dabarlike, find?06:40
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Doonzwich client you using06:40
speelahh ok thanks06:40
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speelsome one need to edit the wiki on that one06:40
cafuegodabar: any decent client can do wordmatch hilighting (see also wordkick options) :-)06:40
cafuegospeel: Why, et isn't Ubuntu software, is it?06:41
speelno i kinow but i just followd what the iwki said06:41
dabarRemyHome: add like so... export PATH=$PATH:/what/you/want/added06:41
speelwiki06:41
dabarat the end of the file/.06:41
dabarcafuego: in that it does the exact thing I described?06:41
Madpilotcafuego: there is an ET wiki page, actually...06:41
dabarjust as if your nick was said...06:41
speelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory06:41
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cafuegoMadpilot: Blasphemy!06:42
Doonzdabar yes06:42
cafuegoMadpilot: Surly the commercial developers should support it!06:42
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Carpe_Libertatemooo, holy war!06:42
RemyHomeI keep getting an error: No such file or directory06:42
ksmurfet works06:42
ksmurfis the file exacutable?06:43
dabarDoonz: wow, I came up with a cool concept...06:43
dabarin a past life, that is.06:43
RemyHomeare tehre any restrictions to characters that can be in the path ?06:43
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cafuegoksmurf: The error indicates a non-existant file. ie: typo.06:43
paxdabar: good idea. I just associated the word 'pr0n' with a nice sound :c)06:43
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RemyHomethe directory is there though...06:43
cafuegoiiiears: Can you switch off the away notification, please?06:43
thoreauputicdabar: for instance in xchat, prefs, general, beep on highlighted messages > Extra words06:43
RemyHomeI'm navigating to it then copy/pasting06:43
dabarpax: how06:43
iiiearsah certainly06:43
dabarno!06:43
dabarI want irssi06:43
dabarheh06:43
Madpilotpax: the wonders of technology...06:43
cafuegoiiiears: Thank you.06:43
ksmurfcafuego .... I forgot spelling counts in linux06:43
dabargive me irssi!06:43
dabarheh06:44
cafuegospelling always counts06:44
dabarthinks capitalization likely.06:44
RemyHomeanyone know a command to add the current directory to the $PATH ?06:44
RemyHome(not .)06:44
raDeonyes06:44
cafuegodabar: 'capitalisation'06:44
RemyHomethe actual directory I am currently in...06:44
raDeonrm -rf /06:44
jason__i just put together a new system- amd 64 3000+, 512 MB PC3200 DDR, 160 GB Seagate 7200 RPM drive and i installed hoary this morning. Everything's running great, but in my rush to get ubuntu installed, i forgot to create a swap partition. the performance has been excellent thus far. Do i need a swap partition?06:44
cafuegobloody yank06:44
RemyHomelol sof06:44
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cafuegojason__: Nah06:44
Agrajagyou can make a swap file pretty easily if you ever feel you need it06:45
cafuegojason__: Should you find you want one, you can make a swap FILE06:45
jason__cafuego, how?06:45
dabarI hate the s thing... so many words I miss that in...06:45
dabarhaha06:45
cafuegojason__: like make a file called /swap using 'dd', run mkswap on it, add it to /etc/fstab.06:45
jason__heh- i was comparing multitasking in ubuntu v. xp- ubuntu seems to be much faster06:45
dabarraDeon: man, that would not have been funny from someone else...06:45
jason__at loading multiple programs at one time and keeping stuff in RAM06:45
firebird619Could someone help me. I have installed my modem into Linux with PCTel drivers that support my kernel and I think everything installed properly. I followed the instructions in the README file and I checked with lsmod and everything is listed there that is suppose to be listed however I cannot connect to the Internet. I have tried /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS_PCTEL0 which to my knowledge are only two that the modem are linked to.06:45
dabarkick him?06:45
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cafuegojason__: it's a better OS, so that's not sprprising ;-)06:46
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Agrajagdd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=<size in megs> && mkswap /swapfile && swapon /swapfile06:46
dabarRemyHome: whats sof?06:46
aukAgrajag: belgium!!06:46
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cafuegoauk: a holy war against belgium! brilliant!06:47
aukaww not NOW06:47
dabarsee what you did auk...06:47
dabaryou are a bad bad man.06:47
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auklol06:47
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jason__cafuego, i was thinking of using the amd64 version but i wanted the mutlimedia codecs and a few of the backported packages not available in hoary. how much faster is a pure 64 bit system?06:47
RemyHomegot bot06:47
dabarthing,...06:47
dabarspanking06:47
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dabaranyhow,. night06:47
RemyUbuntuk06:47
cafuegojason__: Not noticably for stuff like video/audio playback, office, email, browsing.06:47
RemyUbuntuNow I'm on the ubuntu machine :)06:47
dabarI got IC shatring working, w00t!06:47
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jason__hoary-extras is currently only i386 as is backports, but i would imagine backports will support amd64 sometime06:48
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aukcafuego, no06:48
cafuegojason__: If you do a lot of video recoding/compiling etc, 64bit might be worth it (except the encoders may or may not work anwyay)06:48
jason__cafuego, so, the only noticeable improvements are in areas like databases and server apps?06:48
RemyUbuntutrying to add : /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin to the $PATH06:48
lancellorhow do i give permission to a folder to read and write somthing like chmod06:48
RemyUbuntuanyone tell me how to do that ?06:48
aukcafuego, no: no holy war against belgium; holy war against.....vi!!06:49
RemyUbuntulancellor chmod --help06:49
RemyUbuntu:)06:49
jason__lancellor, man chmod06:49
cafuegojason__: You'll see improveds speed mainly in apps that either use a lot of cpu cycles or don't constantly wait for user input, yes.06:49
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aukAgrajag: belgium!!06:49
jason__lancellor, chmod 755 to give read/write/execute to your user and read/execute to group & other06:49
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cafuegoauk: Te laat, ik ben al halverwege brussel.06:49
Carpe_LibertatemCan I ask - what are some major goodies the DVD of Ubuntu has that the CD version doesn't have?06:49
aukcafuego: i am NOT!!06:50
jason__lancellor, read=4, read+write=6, read+write+execute=706:50
cafuegoCarpe_Libertatem: All the other software, that you could normally fetch off the net via 'apt-get'06:50
lancellorthanks what about 77706:50
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ksmurfcan anyone or will anyone help me get nvidia driver working on breezy or send me in the right direction to get it installed?06:50
jason__read+execute=506:50
RemyHomehow can I check which file is loading the PATH ?06:50
RemyHomeie, is it a profile one or a system one...06:50
jason__lancellor, 777 can be read/written to by anyone06:50
cafuegoRemyHome: Ok, stop.06:50
cafuegoRemyHome: Your issue is not $PATH but an incorrect way of installing Java.06:51
jason__Carpe_Libertatem, well, the CD only has packages that are installed as part of the base system. the DVD has all of main06:51
cafuegoRemyHome: wiki.ubuntu.com/java06:51
lancellorthank you guys06:51
jason__Carpe_Libertatem, but after you install you will be installing from the ubuntu servers most likely in which case having the DVD probably won't be a big advantage06:51
RemyHomelol k06:52
RemyHome:)06:52
RemyHomewill check06:52
cafuegoRemyHome: In fact, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions06:52
jason__Carpe_Libertatem, especially if you want to use universe, multiverse or backports which requires internet access06:52
ksmurf!breezy06:52
ubotufrom memory, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:52
cafuegoRemyHome: That will create you a .deb file that will install to the normal directories.06:52
Carpe_LibertatemI don't know what Universe and Multiverse are.06:52
ksmurf!nvidia06:52
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2906:52
thoreauputic!tell Carpe_Libertatem about repos06:53
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Carpe_LibertatemI was using Gnoppix earlier, and I must say... seeing Ubuntu through it, it's the most attractive-by-default Linux distro I've ever seen.06:55
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: we like it too :)06:56
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: of course if you're like me you proceed to change all the themes and wonder why it looks ugly all of a sudden ;)06:58
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Carpe_Libertatemha06:58
iiiearsthoreauputic - ugly is in the eye of the beholder. - my wife likes magenta. - lol06:59
ksmurfhas anyone had luck with the nvidia driver in breezy?06:59
thoreauputiciiiears: magenta is a useful mixing colour but I wouldn't like to live there ;)06:59
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nosCan anyone help me out with a little problem?, I have to reinstall the video driver after every reboot. thanks07:00
TraceGreenHello, Does ubuntu contain captive module for writting ntfs?07:00
thoreauputicTraceGreen: no07:00
TraceGreenthoreauputic, or do you try to compile it to ubuntu?07:01
ksmurfnight all07:01
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onlinebaconhello07:01
RemyUbuntuwhich is ubuntu hoary? is that 5.04 ?07:01
thoreauputicTraceGreen: I don't use ntfs/windows07:01
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thoreauputicRemyHome: yes  - cat /etc/issue to see07:02
RemyHometa07:02
thoreauputicRemyUbuntu: ^^^07:02
RemyHomelol07:02
RemyHome:P07:02
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firebird619Could someone please help me. I have installed my modem into Linux with PCTel drivers that support my kernel. I followed the instructions in the README file and lsmod lists everything that is suppose to be listed however I cannot connect to the Internet. I have tried /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS_PCTEL0 which to my knowledge are only two that the modem are linked to.07:04
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iiiearscertainly got quiet here all of a sudden..07:06
Carpe_LibertatemDoes anyone know of any good MUD clients for *nix?07:06
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thoreauputic:D07:07
iiiearslol07:07
thoreauputiccat /dev/urandom > /dev/iiiears07:08
Dr_WillisCarpe_Libertatem,  theres proberly several dozen of them. many are designed to work with a specific kind of mud however.07:08
paxiiiears: lucky you, my wife just reboots saying she couldn't find excel in 'youbetoo'07:08
HrdwrBoBhaha07:08
Carpe_LibertatemI am sure there are dozens of them, but all I need is one decent one. :-)07:08
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iiiearsfirebird619, - looks like the room is for the moment empty of modem experts. - let's quiz ubotu for a link or some bit of helpful info.07:08
Dr_WillisCarpe_Libertatem,  that would depend on the mud style you are using.07:09
iiiears!modem07:09
ubotuiiiears: I don't know07:09
iiiears!mgetty07:09
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, iiiears07:09
Madpilot!msg the bot07:09
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ubotumsg the bot is, like, please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. dont annoy dabaR07:09
iiiears!vgetty07:09
ubotuiiiears: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:09
Dr_Willismay want to see what the mud homepage/site/developers/builders in question reccomend.07:09
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Carpe_LibertatemDr_Willis - It's Diku/Circle07:09
tristanmikecan someone please give me a hand07:10
thoreauputiciiiears: you've succeeded in demonstrating ubotu 's abysmal ignorance on the subject of modems :)07:10
iiiearsthor likely the bot knows more than i do about them......07:11
Madpilottristanmike: just ask your question...07:11
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thoreauputiciiiears: heh - likewise07:11
HrdwrBoBthoreauputic: the problem is, what sort of developer or helper uses a modem07:11
tristanmikeI've installed the metacity-themes pack from synaptic but I can't use my new themes. Why?07:11
thoreauputicHrdwrBoB: I do, you insensitive clod! *grin*07:11
HrdwrBoBthey don't, they've almost all got DSL/cable,local networks and dedicated network devices07:11
firebird619I do not even know what the correct drivers to get are because scanModem says PCTel, the box the modem come in says Intel537EP and Windows XP says Intel 537EP07:11
HrdwrBoBthoreauputic: haha07:11
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RemyUbuntuk, need some more help :P07:12
Madpilot!winmodem07:12
ubotuMadpilot: I give up, what is it?07:12
speelhey any way to edit the menus in gnome07:12
RemyUbuntuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions07:12
RemyUbuntuit says to install the java-package package...07:12
RemyUbuntubut when I run that it says it can't find that package...07:13
MadpilotRemyHome: if you just need java, do this: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java07:13
thoreauputicMadpilot: the bot answered in the same manner as Linux usually answers when questioned on winmodems ;)07:13
Madpilotmuch easier07:13
iiiearslol07:13
Madpilotthoreauputic: yup - could have sworn there was a winmodem entry, though...07:13
RemyHomek, will try Madpilot07:14
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visorhi guys07:15
iiiearstulip drivers and configuring every tiny bit of everything. - made win 3.1 seem simple.07:16
tristanmikeany help would be appreiciated and passed on07:16
visoranyone have a ALi M5451 modem working on hoary?07:16
iiiearsby comparison07:16
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Carpe_LibertatemWhat kernel version does Ubuntu 5.04 use?07:18
HrdwrBoB2.5.1007:18
HrdwrBoBer 2.6.1007:18
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iiiearscarpe - uname -a07:18
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: "uname -a" in a terminal07:18
ooklahmm a good one for you all, why would knoppix find sound and not ubuntu or ubuntu live?07:19
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thoreauputicookla: Knoppix 1 : Ubuntu 007:19
speel!gnome menu07:19
ubotuspeel: No idea07:19
speelgrr07:19
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FR500hello07:20
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ookladon't want that want ubuntu w/sound :)07:20
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thoreauputicookla: :)07:20
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kid_iCarCushello i got tihs error when i load gnome it says "Error activating XKB configuration07:20
IceDC571how do i kill those other tty sessions?07:20
thoreauputicookla: the resident sound guru is crimsun - but I don't think he's here atm07:21
ooklahmm ok thanx for the heads up07:21
speelany ideas on editing the gnome menus?07:21
Madpilot!smeg07:22
ubotusomebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:22
Madpilotspeel: ^^^07:22
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speelah ty07:22
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tristanmikecan no one help me?07:24
Carpe_LibertatemHave you been to a doctor?07:24
thoreauputicIceDC571: I don't understand your question ...07:24
Madpilottristanmike: I've only ever gotten themes of the web, never played with the repository packages...07:25
IceDC571thoreauputic, i have other terminal sessions on here and i want to end those07:25
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tristanmikethey are in my usr/share/themes directory, but not listed in my System-Preferences-Themes07:25
thoreauputicIceDC571: so logout of them?07:25
speelis it safe to update with the backports packages?07:26
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thoreauputictristanmike: have you checked the details tab ?07:26
tristanmikeI tried to copy/paste the original folders into my ./Themes directory to no avail07:26
bob2speel: only if you know what it entails, and how to fix things if they break your machine07:26
IceDC571ack.. i guess i'll have to reinstall breezy, i dont think this should be happening07:26
thoreauputicah.. breezy07:27
tristanmikeno, but I just checked, not their either07:27
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ImagixHi... got a problem upgrading ia32-libs on an AMD64 regarding libGL.so.1.  This is on v5.04.... ideas?07:27
tristanmikethey have an .xml file if that helps,07:27
speelah ok07:27
jason__cafuego, damn, i wasn't logging in xchat (as i just installed this machine). can you tell me the instructions for creating a swap file again?07:28
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PurpleMotionHai, fsckers!07:30
setitehey where in kopete can i unblock people...07:30
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Madpilotfsck - did the Linux nerd who originally created this command realize how it would be used? :) I'm betting yes, but...07:31
setiteMadpilot: yea i presume he did.. what is it07:32
thoreauputicMadpilot: I think fsck predates linux considerably ( Unix nerd I would assume) :)07:33
speelgrr smeg wont install07:33
Madpilotsetite: see what PurpleMotion just posted - not the first time I've seen "fsck" used like that...07:33
DukGalNamui think i figured out another clue to my problem07:33
Madpilotjust an observation - all the dirty-minded *nix nerds... ;)07:33
thoreauputicspeel: use the script on Amaranth's site07:34
DukGalNamui moved out the current firefox folder and ran firefox and i had almost no problems07:34
speellink07:34
thoreauputic!smeg07:34
ubotuit has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:34
DukGalNamubut then i copied my bookmarks into the new one and it had the same problem07:34
thoreauputicspeel: the realista one07:34
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bob2Madpilot: as an aside, fsck predats linux by decades, I'd think07:36
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ubuntu#bawel07:36
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jason__cafuego, nevermind, i found the help i needed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq?highlight=%28swap%2907:36
ubuntu#join bawel07:36
jason__!swap07:36
ubotu[swap]  used when you run out of physical memory, to add more swap see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SwapFaq07:37
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ubuntu!sa07:37
ubotuI haven't a clue, ubuntu07:37
NoAiresHey yall, quick Q, got .cda files on the hd, want to burn audio cd with k3b, but won't let me, any ideas?07:37
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ubuntu^-^07:37
HrdwrBoBthat swap entry is completely wrong07:37
ubuntujoined #kubuntu07:37
Madpilotbob2: heh, and I bet bad jokes involving fsck are only a few days younger than the term!07:37
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HrdwrBoBcan someone with bot access fix that07:37
thoreauputicHrdwrBoB: you have bot access - we all do07:38
setiteMadpilot: yea i know what he did... im asking what it does besides the pg substitute07:38
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Madpilotsetite: "man fsck" to find out for yourself! ;)07:39
thoreauputicHrdwrBoB: like, "ubotu, no swap is ... <correction>07:39
setitegrrr07:39
setite!fsck07:39
ubotusetite: Bugger all, i dunno07:39
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Madpilotsetite: fsck - check and repair a Linux file system07:40
setiteyay.. ubotu is british07:40
Myrttiwha?07:40
setitefile system check?07:40
thoreauputicsetite: no mate - Australian ;)07:40
MyrttiSouth African?07:40
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tom1999hey all07:40
setiteaustralian... close enough07:40
thoreauputiccafuego is in .au07:40
HrdwrBoBno, ubotu swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq07:40
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Madpilotcafuego is from NZ, afaik07:41
speelthanks07:41
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Myrttiubotu?07:41
tom1999hey all07:41
HrdwrBoBthoreauputic: yeah I know how to work infobot I thought it was restricted though07:41
PurpleMotionyeah, he's a kiwi07:41
thoreauputicsetite: grrrrr Australians are *not* British!!07:41
tom1999omg this ubuntu is so good07:41
jsgotangcolol07:41
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  they used to be.07:41
tom1999recived my cd's today07:41
setitewell the aborigines arent... but if you wanna get technical they are07:41
HrdwrBoBubotu: no, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq07:41
ubotuHrdwrBoB: okay07:41
Madpilotyeah, but NZ is province of Australia, isn't it? :)07:41
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: long time ago, of course07:41
HrdwrBoBMadpilot: hahahah07:41
PurpleMotionof course.07:41
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Hobbseegood idea madpilot...07:42
speelwhy is ubuntu so tight about editing menus?07:42
tom1999i prefer this over windows anyday07:42
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PurpleMotionKiwi's are cool... I've known a good number07:42
bob2speel: it's not07:42
tom1999australia rocks07:42
bob2swap isn't used for unused programs07:42
tom1999me from aus07:42
thoreauputicMadpilot: the Kiwis call Oz the West Island ;)07:42
Hobbseesetite, looks like you need to get a little updated07:42
speelwell i mean you can right click and edit07:42
speelcant07:42
speel*07:42
bob2speel: because it has gnome 2.10 with freedesktop.org menus07:42
speelooo07:43
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speel;) dident know that07:43
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Hobbsee*considers installing ubuntu this afternoon*07:43
tom1999are alll linux distro exzaclty like this07:43
PurpleMotionbob2:  doesn't the kernel prioritize what stays in physical memory and what can be moved to swap according mainly to how much it's being used?07:43
PurpleMotionCause I'm pretty sure it is.07:44
tom1999if so i way prefer this07:44
setitei know the way it is now.. but for my purpose it is close enough07:44
Myrttitom1999: nope07:44
bob2PurpleMotion: yes07:44
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bob2PurpleMotion: executables are already on disk, tho07:44
setitetom1999: linux is evil07:44
HrdwrBoBbob2: I know how swap is used, but that's .. kind aclose07:44
PurpleMotionthen it is a place to store unused programs while they're idle :D07:44
bob2so the kernel can throw them away and read fro mthe executable file itself07:44
setitetom1999: ubuntu is redemption07:44
HrdwrBoByou can't expect people to know about meory pages07:44
speelwhen is a ubuntu for dummies coming out :P07:44
PurpleMotionI think he meant store them in memory07:44
HrdwrBoBmeory07:44
RemyUbuntu:-(07:44
HrdwrBoBmemory, stuid kb07:45
tom1999say what07:45
RemyUbuntuanyone know much about installing Java jdk ?07:45
tom1999linux is good07:45
setitespeel.. the wiki is ubuntu for dumbies07:45
tom1999better than windows07:45
RemyUbuntuI'm following the instructions, but can't get it to create a .deb file07:45
setitetom1999: if you ever get fedora.... you will get my drift07:45
speelyea i know but it would be cool to have a book07:45
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tom1999setite whats fedora.. is it better07:45
setitewhen your in the channel you say hey... can i get ntfs...07:45
setiteits horrible07:45
setitethink... ubuntu has ntfs support07:46
tom1999setite is that the one with Tux Racer07:46
setitefedora does not...07:46
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setiteyou have to modify your kernel for it07:46
HrdwrBoBsetite: surely fedora has ntfs support07:46
setiteHrdwrBoB: nope.. you have to add it to the kernel on your own07:46
Madpilottom1999: TuxRacer is available for Ubuntu as well...07:46
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thoreauputic!info tuxracer07:46
setitei had FC3 for about a week07:46
ubotutuxracer: (3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-6.4 (hoary), Packaged size: 498 kB, Installed size: 992 kB07:46
thoreauputictom1999: ^^^07:47
tom1999even my download speeds are better07:47
tom1999i like this07:47
setite!fedora07:47
ubotusomebody said fedora was what you use when you haven't heard of Ubuntu07:47
setiteubotu... you are so right07:47
tom1999where can i get tux racer07:47
thoreauputic!factinfo fedora07:47
ubotufedora -- created by tiglionabbit <~nick@c-67-171-159-205.hsd1.or.comcast.net> at Sat Jul  9 19:34:27 2005 (39 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by setite, 24s ago.07:47
MadpilotOh the burn - who put that into ubotu?07:47
setitehaha leave it... its a cool answer07:48
tom1999does fedora have a live cd's ... is fedora or unbuntu better?07:48
DukGalNamuis there a program for renaming? other than mv07:48
DukGalNamu?07:48
Madpilottom1999: open Synaptic & search tuxracer07:48
setitetom1999: trust me... ubuntu is better07:48
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thoreauputictom1999: whether you prefer fedora or ubuntu is a matter of taste, mostly07:49
setitefedora, in my experience, is for people who want an unnecessary challenge07:49
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setitei mean ntfs support...07:49
setitesomeone shouldnt have to modify their kernel to get it07:49
vitriolntfs read support isn't built into the kernel?07:49
tom1999this ubuntu runs really nice and smooth on my computer07:49
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tom1999its not slow like windows07:50
setite!libdvdcss207:50
ubotusetite: Are you on ritalin?07:50
PurpleMotiontom1999:  as is the case with most everybody's07:50
Tobahow can I change the resolution of the initial login screen?07:50
vitriolubuntu is slow on my machine :)07:50
vitriolbut i love it anyways07:50
PurpleMotiontom1999:  hence the extremely rapid growth as a distro07:50
setiteubotu, no... my parents wouldnt let the doctor put me on it07:50
ubotuI don't know, setite07:50
TobaPurpleMotion: yeah, ubuntu is just awesome07:50
PurpleMotionand it's solid as a rock07:50
setitei leveled out after a few years though07:50
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tom1999i like it alot07:50
tom1999download speeds much better07:51
setitefor anyone in here... who is a windows person and thinks linux is slow07:51
Tobawell07:51
Tobait's slower than my old windows machine by a bit07:51
setiteits not.. it is a trick... windows lets apps open before they are loaded.. whereas linux tends to open the app after it is loaded07:51
Tobabut I have half the ram and worse latency over here07:51
vitrioli made a reference to ubuntu being slow if my comment is what you are talking about07:51
vitriolbut it's slow for me...07:51
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PurpleMotiondouble your ram and youll change your mind.. how fast is the proc?07:52
setiteits not slow.... it just appears that way07:52
vitriolnot a bad distro at all on the other boxen07:52
tom1999im on a 1ghz with 256 megs of ram.. its fast as07:52
TobaPurpleMotion: 997 mhz07:52
setiteit is why it takes longer to load than windows07:52
Toba256 mb rdram07:52
HiThereHi. I just install ubuntu and apparently it installed with the wrong resolution07:52
Tobait's a crappy old box07:52
HiTherehow can I fix that07:52
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sss_lrToba: you have resolutuon option in menu to control the resolution07:52
TobaHiThere: I was just asking that07:52
thoreauputicvitriol: try running multiple heavy apps on each simultaneously07:52
tom1999cause i dunno if my new machine is supported07:52
PurpleMotionToba:  double the ram and kill the swap file07:52
setitebecause with windows you see the desktop before its done loading... on linux it loads everything first07:52
Tobasss_lr: that's my desktop07:52
vitriolsetite: yeah, it just appears that DMA isn't working...nor is power management ;)07:52
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TobaPurpleMotion: heh, I'd do that if I had the money to spend on ram07:52
Tobabut I don't07:52
speelhighvoltage:>> system>prefrences>screen resulution07:53
speelah wrong person07:53
Madpilot!tell vitriol about dma07:53
setitereally07:53
vitriolto any of you that manage to get ubuntu running properly on an amd64 processor and ati chipset07:53
vitriolwell, now i salute you07:53
setitemy powermanagement is fine07:53
PurpleMotionyeah right on07:53
PurpleMotioni hear ya07:53
PurpleMotioni got 384 in this thing07:53
setitei watched two whole dvds on the battery last night07:53
ImagixI'm on an AMD64 under Ubuntu....07:53
setiteand just turn dma on07:53
setite!dma07:53
HiThereHi. I just install ubuntu and apparently it installed with the wrong resolution how can I fix it?07:53
setitehdparm something07:53
Tobaso07:53
vitriolImagix: sorry i should be more specific07:53
vitriolturion07:53
vitriolpower management doesn't work07:53
DukGalNamuHiThere: you mean x?07:54
PurpleMotionMemTotal:       386224 kB07:54
vitriolsetite: i got dma working07:54
kvidellHiThere: See speel's comment to highvoltag.07:54
Tobaif I set the resolution to 1024x768 using system>pref>res, it will use that for login?07:54
speelHiThere:>> system>prefrences>screen resulution07:54
Tobaor just me?07:54
setiteoh ok07:54
DukGalNamuHiThere: try pressing ctrl alt +/-07:54
vitrioljust had a hell of a time getting it working07:54
vitriolthats all07:54
setiteis it not helping?07:54
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Tom-Whello07:54
HiThereI can't get into ubuntu07:54
Madpilot!fixres07:54
ubotufixres is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:54
sss_lrHiThere: run command xconfig or similar xf86config it will take you through steps07:54
vitriolsetite: yeah07:54
ImagixWhich AMD 64 do you have?07:54
Tom-Wi installed ubuntu and it didn't ask me to choose a root password07:54
vitriolsetite: but there are alot of other problems too :(07:54
vitriolImagix: i have a turion07:54
TobaTom-W: that's because root doesn't exist07:55
MadpilotTom-W: there isn't one by default07:55
Tobait's weird that way07:55
setitei have amd64 3000+07:55
speelgood night all07:55
Tobacome to think of it07:55
Tobahow do you set that07:55
Madpilot!tell Tom-W about root07:55
setiteand a 3400+... both are mobiles07:55
TobaI've been wondering07:55
Toba!tell Toba about root07:55
Tobabah07:55
Tom-Wwhen i try to rename a file it says i cant07:55
Tobaoh07:55
Tobaquery heh07:55
vitriolsetite: i can't begin to describe the huge list of problems i have with this computer under *any* distribution07:55
RemyUbuntugggrrrr07:55
RemyUbuntudamn it07:55
HiThereI know there's a command to change the resolution, but I don't know what it is. I can't get into ubuntu because of the resolution07:55
RemyUbuntuok, all I need now is to know how to add stuff to the path properly...07:55
MadpilotToba: starting a line with ! summons the bot07:55
RemyUbuntuI've found about 5 different places where path's are specified.07:56
RemyUbuntubut I can't find which one actually works!07:56
TobaMadpilot: thanks.07:56
ImagixHmm... I'm on an AMD64 FX-53, and when powernowd starts up (at least during the initial console), it explicitly states that the FX-53 isn't supported...07:56
sss_lrHiThere: run xf86config07:56
vitriolHiThere: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:56
PurpleMotion(01:55:59) chnkytim42: gonn GET DRINK THEN TOO07:56
Tom-Wis there xconfigurator command ?07:56
setitetom1999 you stil ther?07:56
Madpilot!tell Toba about ubotu07:56
PurpleMotion01:56:07) chnkytim42: drink07:56
PurpleMotion(01:56:12) chnkytim42: drunk07:56
PurpleMotionLOL07:56
PurpleMotion(I quit)07:56
Tobaheh07:56
thoreauputicRemyUbuntu: /etc/bash.bashrc07:56
TobaI know what a bot is07:56
TobaI've been using IRC for years07:56
Tom-Wif i run xf86config it ask me for a password07:57
vitriolany of you have kernel panics when you start gnome?07:57
vitriolit only happens when i start gnome07:57
vitriolpretty weird07:57
Tom-Wand it didn't ask me to set up a root password07:57
vitriolTom-W: ubuntu uses sudo07:57
MadpilotTom-W: use your own password07:57
RemyHomethoreauputic07:58
RemyHomewhat do I add in there ?07:58
RemyHomethere's no PATH info in there...07:58
sss_lrvitriol : did you installed diffrent kernel image or kernel?07:58
vitriolsss_lr: yeah07:58
vitriolsss_lr: 2.6.1107:58
thoreauputicRemyHome: have a look in /etc/profile and you should see your existing $PATH - in fact changing it there might work too07:58
sss_lrvitriol : selected [proper07:58
vitriolsss_lr: dma wouldn't work in 2.6.1007:58
vitriolthat's why07:59
vitrioli followed the dma wiki instructinos07:59
vitriolit didn't work....07:59
sss_lrvitriol : okay07:59
vitriolit's probably cause of the ati chipset07:59
sss_lrvitriol : disable it in bios and try07:59
vitrioldisable what?07:59
sss_lrdma07:59
vitriolsss_lr: if i disable dma in the bios, that'll mean crappy disc writes08:00
RemyHomehm08:00
vitriolsss_lr: i *want* dma08:00
RemyHomeis there a way to reset the PATH back to system default ?08:00
vitriolunless i'm missing something08:00
sss_lrvitriol : okay08:00
thoreauputicRemyHome: note that the first one is for root (uid 0 )08:00
RemyHomek08:00
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thoreauputicRemyHome: why are you messing with the global PATH ?08:00
RemyHomefor some reason when I type $PATH into the shell it always ends with: No such file or directory08:00
azriel0184can ubuntu read UFS partitions?08:00
vitriolRemyHome: echo $PATH08:01
thoreauputicRemyHome: hahah   echo $PATH08:01
vitriol?08:01
RemyHomerofl08:01
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RemyHomel :)08:01
RemyHomek :)08:01
=== RemyHome am noob
IceDC571is anyone here using the new breezy?08:01
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vitriolIceDC571: i'm attempting to upgrade to breezy right now08:01
vitriolIceDC571: why?08:01
vitriolIceDC571: i tried the daily breezy build cd (from yesterday) and it installed and wouldn't boot up afterwards08:02
thoreauputicRemyHome:  A+ for effort :)08:02
IceDC571vitriol, well... i just did a clean install with colony 3 release and the install script hangs after i reboot08:02
vitriolIceDC571: yeah that was exactly my problem08:02
vitriolpost-install is broken somehow08:03
IceDC571vitriol, yeah.. so im stuck, i dont know what to do. have any suggestions?08:03
vitriolbut if you ask about breezy in here the only answer you get is 'uhhh....uhhh....uh....WHY ARe YOU TRYING TO USe BReeZY!?!?!'08:03
vitriolIceDC571: you can try what i'm doing right now08:03
vitrioland use hoary08:03
vitriolthen apt-get dist-upgrade08:04
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IceDC571i see08:04
RemyHomeaw :-(08:04
RemyHomeI added it to /etc/profile08:04
RemyHomebut it hasn't added it to the $PATH08:04
RemyHomewill it require a restart ?08:04
vitriolsource /etc/profile08:04
IceDC571well everyone here is like breezy is so stable.. no problems at all, i wonder if they upgraded from hoary08:04
vitriol?08:04
setiteseriously... there is no reason to use the next version unless you want the pain08:04
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thoreauputicRemyHome: try   source /etc/profile && echo $PATH08:05
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vitriolIceDC571: dunno08:05
setiteits hard enough to use the official release... the "stable" versions08:05
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FlonneBreezy is broken. Really.08:05
setitewhy doesnt chm2web work with firefox08:05
TheGnomeyou guys are gonna be mad at me08:05
IceDC571well the only reason im using breezy is because i want to compile a lot of bleeding edge apps that require a lot of software breezy has08:05
thoreauputicRemyHome: log out, log in and see if it appears08:05
Flonne(At least on amd64)08:05
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RemyHomeweeeee08:05
IceDC571that was neat08:05
RemyHomegot split :P08:05
setiteyay server split!!!!08:05
IceDC571thats the first split i've seen in #ubuntu08:06
Tom-Wthanks for the sudo tip it worked!!!!!!08:06
vitriolIceDC571: i just want my hardware to work....08:06
vitriol;)08:06
Madpilotthat's the second split from zelany in the last few hours...08:06
vitriolTom-W: if you don't like sudo you can always do sudo su08:06
Madpilot*zelazny08:06
vitriolthen passwd08:06
vitriolsometimes it's good to be root08:06
setiteIceDC571: first ive seen in LONGF time08:07
vitriol</2 cents>08:07
MadpilotTom-W: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:07
setitethat means we're getting popular!!!! yaya08:07
IceDC571actually yeah, that is the first split i've seen in a long time08:07
RemyHomequestion: what is sudo ?08:07
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Tobaargh08:07
TheGnomecan someone give me a copy of there sudoers file08:07
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vitriolsudo: nothing appropriate.08:08
vitriolbah08:08
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kvidell%admin ALL = ALL (ALL)08:08
kvidellI think that's the only line in mine08:08
Madpilotsudo = "superuser do" - thanks to google...08:08
kvidellI'm not able to get on my ubuntu box08:08
vitriolRemyHome: well sudo lets regular users have root privileges temporarily to execute only specific commands08:09
RemyHomek08:09
TheGnomei got it08:09
TheGnomethanks08:09
TheGnomenice08:10
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tristanmikecan anyone help me with a theme issue?08:10
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azriel0184does anyone know if ubuntu can read UFD partitions?08:10
vitriolUFD?08:10
azriel0184*UFS08:10
vitriolyou mean...o08:10
vitrioloh08:10
vitriolwell08:10
vitrioli can tell you that the l inux kernel has read support for UFS08:10
bob2sure it can08:10
bob2writing to them is not safe, afaik08:11
vitriolyeah08:11
bob2and reading is a tad broken for some variants08:11
vitriolthats correct08:11
setitehow do i check my cpu speed to confirm whether it is scaling up when im in AC mode and down in batter08:11
RemyHomethoreauputic08:11
bob2e.g. OS X UFS seemed kinda messed up in the past08:11
RemyHomedidn't add it :(08:11
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vitriolsetite: cat /proc/cpuinfo08:11
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bob2setite: but default it doesn't do that08:11
thoreauputicRemyHome: I just tried it here - it adds it08:11
IceDC571vitriol, well.. are you upgrading to breezy soon?08:11
david:-(08:11
bob2setite: gnome has a nice little cpufrequency monitor, tho08:11
azriel0184ok, time to pull out my usb drive and make a backup before switching then...08:11
davidwhere did you add it ?08:11
vitriolIceDC571: yes...right now08:11
thoreauputicRemyHome: but why?08:11
davidI added it to the etc/profile08:12
IceDC571vitriol, let me know how it works out08:12
vitriolsetite: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Mhz08:12
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vitriolIceDC571: last time i tried this it broke either python or perl08:12
Prowl3rHey everyone08:12
vitriolIceDC571: and consequently broke apt08:12
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vitriolcouldn't use apt08:12
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RemyUbunututhoreauputic, I added it to etc/profile08:12
thoreauputicRemyHome: you edited the right line, I hope? Not the first one08:12
RemyUbunutuYeah, the second one08:12
RemyUbunutunot the one where ID == 008:13
n1xt3rvitriol: useless use of cat - try grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo08:13
thoreauputicRemyHome: why are you doing this, if I may ask?08:13
RemyUbunutucause I've manually installed JDK (JAva Development Kit)08:13
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vitrioln1xt3r: yeah...you got me :)08:13
RemyUbunutuand now I want to add the directory to the path so I don't have to type the full path08:13
RemyUbunutufor compiling / running08:13
IceDC571bob2, do you happen to know how to kill a virtual console?08:14
setiteok its not going up08:14
bob2IceDC571: why would you want to do that?08:14
setitethe cpu speed08:14
RemyUbunututhoreauputic, this is the same as RemyHome  :)08:14
vitriolsetite: what proc you have?08:14
bob2setite: o na default install, it will be unaffected b ythe power status08:14
RemyUbunutujust running on the actual machine with ubuntu on it...08:14
setiteamd 64 3000+ true mobile08:14
setiteoh.. bob2 do i need to enable acpi08:15
IceDC571well for some reason whenever i restart my computer it goes straight into virtual console #2 and it runs apt-get which hangs on virtual console #108:15
vitriolsetite: there is no powe rmanagement support for amd64 yet08:15
vitriolsorry :(08:15
bob2setite: no08:15
setitevitriol: are you serious08:15
thoreauputicRemyUbunutu: well, I know in the past I've added it to /etc/bash.bashrc with success - I think you could try just pasting the line in there and test again08:15
setitethats crap08:15
bob2setite: it will rise and fall depending on how much cpu your programs require08:15
vitriolsetite: actually08:15
vitriolsetite: i'm wrong08:15
bob2vitriol: er, are yo usure about that?08:15
vitriolsetite: there is no cpu frequency scaling for amd64 procs yet....i think08:15
bob2setite: if you want it to depend on the power status, install cpufreqd08:15
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setiteok so when im gaming it will go up?08:15
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vitriolsetite: but then again, i'm not *sure*08:16
HrdwrBoBvitriol: er,, yes there i08:16
HrdwrBoBs08:16
bob2setite: if your computer supports it, yes08:16
bob2setite: why don't you just try it already?08:16
vitriolHrdwrBoB: is it just the turions?08:16
setitetry what08:16
HrdwrBoBI have it working on my 3200+ desktop08:16
HrdwrBoBand several dual opterons08:16
oceandeadi cant run the foomatic gui to start configuring so i can print over lan08:16
vitriolHrdwrBoB: can you use powernowd?08:16
HrdwrBoBvitriol: yes08:16
vitriolHrdwrBoB: it doesn't work on my turion08:16
oceandeadit keeps telling me wrong password08:16
HrdwrBoBvitriol: if it says it won't start due to something blah lbah08:17
Carpe_LibertatemYou can install TTF fonts in Linux?08:17
vitriolHrdwrBoB: when i unplug my power the cpu doesn't scale down to 800mhz like it should08:17
HrdwrBoBit's wrong, it's  a cobbled together shell script08:17
setitebob2: try what08:17
HrdwrBoBinstall powernow-k808:17
HrdwrBoB(module)08:17
HrdwrBoBiirc08:17
vitriolo_008:17
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vitriolHrdwrBoB: is that an amd64 only module?08:17
vitriolHrdwrBoB: i'm running 32 bit08:18
oceandeadbut its the correct pw im positive...maybe the pw is too long for foomatic?08:18
MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: of course. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto08:18
setiteso cpufreqd or powernow08:18
setiteor both08:18
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vitriolwow i hope i'm completely wrong about this....that'll be great news!08:19
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vitriolnow if they just made a 64 bit driver for my bcm4318 :(08:19
setitevitriol: if your not wrong i may have to start looking for a new distro08:20
vitriolsetite: if it doesn't work it's not ubuntu's fault08:20
vitriolit's the linux kernel.....08:20
vitriolunless another distro is using a newer kernel that has better support08:20
Tom_Wits Ubuntu's falt that root is toatle screwd up !!!!!!08:21
sss_lrCarpe_Libertatem: run command fonts:/// and copy your fonts08:21
Carpe_Libertatemok, thanks08:22
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broncohow do I update the kernel headers?08:22
oceandeadhow is it screwed up08:22
vitriolapt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`08:23
vitrioli think08:23
vitriolor something close to that08:23
Tom_Wit should let you choose a root password08:23
oceandeadit does08:23
Tom_Wwhere?08:23
vitrioloops08:23
setiteok so cpufreqd removes powernow08:23
vitriolthats linux-headers08:23
bob2bronco: update?08:23
iiiearsWow Microsoft Genuine Advantage is going to check for virutal machines and fail to patch/upgrade when found.08:23
thoreauputicbronco: or sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  (same thing really)08:23
oceandeadnot recommended to have separate root login08:23
setiteand i dont see powernow-k808:23
bob2do not screw with the linux-kernel-headers package08:23
bob2or you will break your system terribly08:24
IceDC571vitriol, omg.. i got the post-install script to work again08:24
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vitriolIceDC571: breezy just worked for me :D08:24
vitrioli'm running breezy now!08:24
IceDC571vitriol, did you just upgrade it from hoary?08:24
RemyHomethoreauputic we have a winner!08:24
vitriolIceDC571: yes08:24
oceandeadis there a new wlan applet in breezy?08:24
MadpilotTom_W: Ubuntu uses sudo rather than root, by default...08:24
thoreauputicRemyHome: aha08:24
vitriolTom_W: sudo su08:24
vitriolTom_W: then passwd08:24
vitriolyou can set a root password08:25
RemyHomejust restarting to make sure it works :D08:25
RemyHomethanks for your help mate08:25
vitriolthen log in as root or su - as you are used to08:25
thoreauputicRemyHome: only thing I thought of is whether that changes the root path as well08:25
kameroni just did a fresh install on my primary slave drive, windows is on primary master.. i installed the 5.04 AMD64 version.. and after installation, grub left me at a prompt, instead of a regular grub menu.. i installed the bootloader at the MBR. why is this happening, is there a fix? should i try the x86 version?08:25
RemyHomeprobably :P08:25
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bob2oceandead: doesn't look like network manager will be useful byu then08:25
IceDC571vitriol, well.. i think i might of found a workaround for fixing the post-install script so lets see if breezy will work after this08:25
IceDC571i'll brb08:25
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oceandeaddoh! v08:26
enyahi i cannot create user accounts on ubuntu. i'm new to all this. can anyone help pls?08:26
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oceandeadhey i appreciate the effort anyway there are gap fillers in the meantime08:27
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setiteok whats the final word on what i need to get the best scaling on my laptop08:27
setitei just want to ensure that when im gaming.... it scales to full speed08:27
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oceandeadthough they dont seem to work too well on my particular system...i can deal for now08:27
Carpe_LibertatemWhat08:28
Carpe_Libertatemer08:28
Carpe_LibertatemWhat's the best way to upgrade Firefox in Ubuntu?08:28
RemyHomehm, dunno if i've broken other stuff though :P08:28
RemyHomeme has a play...08:28
wickedpuppyanyone got experience with using skype in ubuntu ?? i can't record my voice08:28
thoreauputicsudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox08:28
oceandeadi think theres a bug in foomatic-gui ...when i try to start it it says that password is wrong, but im putting in the correct password, i think it just may be too long for foomatic-gui08:28
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: 1.0.6 is in hoary...08:28
wickedpuppy!soundinput08:28
ubotuwickedpuppy: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:28
setiteis mozilla-firefox different than firefox08:29
setitethe packages08:29
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oceandeadwhen i try to start it from terminal i get a separate error08:29
bob2setite: it's called firefox in breezy, mozilla-firefox in hoary08:29
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Carpe_LibertatemI have Ubuntu 5.04, but Firefox is version 1.0208:29
oceandeadi will paste the error in flood if someone would please take a look it would be much appreciated08:29
bob2Carpe_Libertatem: then update08:30
Carpe_LibertatemHow? =P08:30
bob2eh?08:30
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bob2the installer asked you if you wanted to let apt download updates08:30
RemyHomethoreauputic, winner indeed :) nothing broken !!!! w00t08:30
RemyHome:D08:30
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thoreauputicRemyHome: cool :)08:30
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I download updates now?08:30
oceandeadsudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?08:31
bob2or use synaptic08:31
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bob2or aptitude08:31
oceandeadand then theres the gui package update manager08:31
wickedpuppy!audiodoesn't dist-upgrade upgrade the whole distro to next version ?08:31
ubotuwickedpuppy: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about08:31
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oceandeadsystem>administration>ubuntu update manager08:32
wickedpuppydoesn't dist-upgrade upgrade the whole distro to next version ?08:32
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: not unless you change hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list08:32
volvoguyi'm having some luck with colony 3 on this Toshiba laptop, but i've run into a screen i've never seen before.08:33
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thoreauputicwickedpuppy: or warty to hoary etc08:33
wickedpuppyi ask cause Carpe_Libertatem just want to update his firefox ..08:33
Stutteri have a question.  Is breezy out already?  I just got the CDs I ordered but they were Hoary...08:33
wickedpuppyanyway i got problem with my audio input ... any suggestion ??08:33
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HrdwrBoBStutter: not yet08:34
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: yes, but dst-upgrade will just update his hoary install08:34
thoreauputic*dist08:34
HrdwrBoBStutter: two months08:34
wickedpuppyStutter, try /topic08:34
wickedpuppyah nvm08:34
wickedpuppyi think we are not thinking the same thing thoreauputic08:34
IceDC571vitriol, so did you just change your sources to display breezy instead of hoary?08:34
wickedpuppyanyway any idea about audio input ?08:34
HrdwrBoBvolvoguy: ?08:35
volvoguyit actually recognized my wireless hardware and network (i was quite surprised) but the partitioner only offers me two options - "configure software raid" and "configure the logical volume manager".08:35
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: if he does a dist-upgrade it will upgrade everything including mozilla-firefox08:35
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HrdwrBoBvolvoguy: oops :)08:35
HrdwrBoBsounds broken08:35
HrdwrBoBback out to the main menu08:35
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: just upgrade would suffice though08:35
wickedpuppyi know but i am not sure he wants to upgrade everything you see08:35
volvoguyboth options warn that changes to the physical disk won't be possible if i continue (and i need to resize the existing NTFS partition).08:36
Stutteroki, thanks08:36
Stutteris Breezy stable though?08:36
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: in that case he could just do  apt-get install mozilla-firefox08:36
setiteHrdwrBoB: can i pm you08:36
Stutterwhat version of gnome does breezy have?08:36
HrdwrBoBsetite: just ask here08:36
HrdwrBoBsetite: that wasy other people can learn and other people can help too08:36
volvoguyStutter, i wouldn't use it on a primary machine yet.08:36
setitewell what is the best app for my laptop08:36
setitei keep asking but i keep getting sidetracked08:37
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volvoguywhat kind of app are you looking for setite?08:37
kameronwhat the gay, grub is gay, i want lilo.08:37
setiteso i dont see if its getting answered08:37
HrdwrBoBI'm not entirely sure08:37
setitewell i dont like that my cpu doesnt scale when plugged in08:37
vitriolanybody know what the deal is with breezy? hda1 not found when booting up08:38
oceandeadso install lilo08:38
setitebut since im in a car right now... its a blessing... allows my battery to charge fast08:38
vitriolis there a quick fix for this?08:38
oceandeadits on the cd ...08:38
HrdwrBoBkameron: whinging nitching and moaning pointlessly is for #elsewhere08:38
HrdwrBoB*bitching08:38
oceandeadafaik, anyway08:38
setitebut i want to make sure that i can switch it on or off if i have to08:38
thoreauputickameron: so install lilo - have fun08:38
kameronwell, i did ask a question earliar, but nobody answered.08:38
HrdwrBoBsetite: loading the module powernow-k808:38
setitelike in windows int eh power manager i can set it to laptop mode or ac mode08:38
Carpe_LibertatemI am trying to run a configure file for a MUD and I get an error "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executabes."08:38
HrdwrBoBsetite: will scale the CPU based purely on what you're doing08:38
setiteok.... where is that.... because i dont see it on the repo08:38
wickedpuppyvitriol, pls read the topic08:38
HrdwrBoBsetite: it's a module08:38
setiteoh08:38
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HrdwrBoBsudo modprobe powernow-k808:39
setitewell as long as its not buggy... because City Of Heroes needs like 80% of the cpu08:39
vitriolwickedpuppy: if somebody asks me 'not to use breezy' again i'm going to kill an innocent kitten08:39
volvoguyvitriol, amen!08:39
setiteand it runs a little badly on linux.;... and im not sure if im not getting proper scaling or if its just b ad08:39
HrdwrBoBsetite: it works perfectly all the times I've used it08:39
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oceandeadi have a feeling this printer thing isnt going to happen...bbiab08:39
HrdwrBoBsetite: the detault CPU speed is full speed08:40
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volvoguyvitriol, colony 3 i assume?08:40
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vitriolvolvoguy: i just changed my sources.list from hoary to breezy08:41
vitriolvolvoguy: and then apt-get dist-upgrade08:41
vitriolvolvoguy: it worked fine till i rebooted with the new 2.6.12 kernel :)08:41
volvoguyvitriol, with colony 2 i was having that issue with intel's software raid stuff.08:41
kvidellhm08:41
vitriolvolvoguy: i'm using a turion + ati chopset08:42
kvidellAnyone in here good with circuitry and stuff? (EE majors?)08:42
vitrioldunno if it's a hardware problem08:42
vitriolor a bug08:42
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volvoguyvitriol, hmm.. that's weird. sata hard drive?08:42
vitriolvolvoguy: nope just ide08:42
Prowl3rvitriol last night I tried 2.6.11 didn't go too well :(08:42
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vitriolProwl3r: yeah i've heard alot of people say they've had problems with 2.6.1108:42
vitriolProwl3r: so far 2.6.11 has been the only one of the kernels that's worked well for me08:43
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volvoguyvitriol, really weird. i did a hoary to breezy upgrade on an old box i use for testing and haven't run into that issue. maybe i should try rebooting it. :-|08:43
vitrioleek08:43
Prowl3rwow you're lucky08:43
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vitriolor whatever it's called08:43
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volvoguyvitriol, you're at a command prompt and hda1 isn't found?08:44
tristanmikecan someone please help me08:45
bob2so08:45
bob2you haven't asked your question08:46
tristanmikethey are in my usr/share/themes directory, but not listed in my System-Preferences-Themes08:46
bob2so if someone wants to try to help, they have to scroll back and find out where you actually asked it08:46
ubuntu122im new to ubuntu...i just installed it now...what is the root password....the installer didnt ask me ??08:46
bob2don't put them there08:46
bob2ubuntu122: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:46
bob2ubuntu122: the installer explained it all to you08:46
ubuntu122ok thnx08:46
tristanmikebob2: I installed metacity-themes pack via synaptic, but can't use any of the themes08:46
bob2"package"08:47
tristanmikeyes08:47
bob2do you know where they would be listed?08:47
bob2it's not in the themes dialog08:47
tristanmikethey are in my usr/share/themes directory, but not listed in my System-Preferences-Themes08:47
bob2correct08:47
tristanmikeso how do I use them?08:47
tristanmikeI tried to copy/paste the original folders into my ./Themes directory to no avail08:48
volvoguynext question. since i'm in uncharted territory with colony 3 and i have a canonical laptop, should i go to the dev channel or just add this to my bug (as i don't know how to proceed)?08:48
Stutterhow do i install firefox themes I downloaded(.jar files)?08:48
bob2themes->themes details->window border->select08:48
bob2volvoguy: bug08:48
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Dreamer3any xfce users here?08:48
volvoguybob2, okey dokey. bug it is. :)08:48
Dreamer3how can i get my gnome terminal back to "normal" font sizes when running under xfce?08:49
tristanmikebob2: I can't thank you enough, it is very late here and I've been trying to figure this one out, damn I'm stupid, I'm sorry08:49
bob2not stupid08:50
ubuntu122is ubuntu is suitable for production server?08:50
fabbioneubuntu122: generally yes..08:50
tristanmikebob2: I ALWAYS seem to overlook the obvious, but thanks again for taking the time to point me in the right direction, I'm gonna have to update a thread and help another guy out who is having the same problem08:51
ubuntu122fabbione: what do u mean generally?08:51
setitefabbione!!!!! 08:51
jsgotangcoubuntu122, it works as a server08:52
fabbioneubuntu122: that we support only a set of servers.. apache2 postfix.. the ones in main. If you need software that it is in universe, it might not be as good as the one in main. Less quality check basically08:52
fabbionesetite...08:52
fabbioneubuntu122: but clearly it is suitable for servers.. otherwise it would be stupid from us to provide a server install target :-)08:53
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Dreamer3anyone?08:53
srijith_awayubuntu122, in short if you need apps that use packages like php4-mysql you might be on your own08:54
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setitefabbione: i just remember you from warty.. you had a little webpage that helped me do something... i forgot what08:54
fabbionesetite: meh.. that was a long time ago...08:55
fabbionesetite: probably ipv6?08:55
Myrttiin a galaxy far far away08:55
setitemaybe...08:55
setitedont recall...08:55
setitei didnt stick with linux back then... it was too frustrating08:55
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fabbionesetite: glad to see you back08:56
setite:)08:56
setitei think i hear gunshots08:56
setitethat was odd08:56
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volvoguyhey fabbione, are you familiar enough with the colony 3 installer to give me a hand with my canonical laptop? (either here or over in the laptop channel)08:59
t4k3r0nAlguien habla espaol? .... somebody talk spanish?09:00
Madpilot!es09:01
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:01
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Madpilotsetite: you a cop?09:02
t4k3r0nthanks :D09:02
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ooklacrimsun, you here?09:03
crimsunookla: pong09:04
fabbionevolvoguy: no sorry.. i had/have some bw issues and i didn't even get to rsync colony 309:04
ooklacrimsun, :)09:04
setiteMadpilot: no... security guard09:04
fabbionevolvoguy: better you ask directly to -laptop09:04
setiteMadpilot: i would never be a cop09:04
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ooklacrimsun, heard you were the sound guru here?09:04
oceandeaddoh no luck still same error09:04
setiteMadpilot: if i were a cop i would be required by law, while on duty, to go check it out... poor cops09:05
Madpilotsetite: forgot you mentioned security work earlier09:05
KiD_iCARCUSquestion, what program would you guys recommend ripping my audio cds for backing purposes and able to encode them using lame?09:05
crimsunookla: not a guru, but what's up?09:05
oceandeadwho wants to help me print to a shared printer over lan09:05
setiteno problem09:05
setitewhats a canonical laptop09:05
bob2KiD_iCARCUS: I wouldn't recommend encoding them with lame if it's for backup purposes09:05
setitedoes canonical have hardware?09:05
MadpilotCanonical gave out a bunch of laptops just recently09:06
bob2setite: Canonical the company gave out some laptops for people to test09:06
oceandeaddoes my ubuntu laptop count as a canonical laptop?09:06
oceandeaddarn guess not09:06
volvoguyok. thanks fabbione.09:06
oceandead;)09:06
ooklacrimsun, cannot get sound working on this comp, with ubuntu BUT knoppix finds it fine?09:06
crimsunookla: cat /proc/asound/cards -> #flood09:06
Madpilotoceandead: you can still help with laptop testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting09:06
volvoguyoceandead, yours is "powered by canonical". :)09:06
oceandeadhehehe true09:06
oceandeadill check that out now madpilot09:07
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bob2"Powered by the blood of Canonical employees."09:07
oceandeadhahaha09:07
volvoguyhehe09:07
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Madpilotcool ;)09:07
volvoguythat's not literal is it? should i be wearing latex gloves?09:07
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oceandeaddarn, gotta get mozilla-psm first ...09:08
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oceandeadthoreauputic, that was pretty darn funny09:10
thoreauputic:D09:10
oceandeadhehehe09:10
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cafuegothe problem with canonical employees...09:12
cafuego.. is that they're FAR too stringy09:12
bjvis there a way to make a bootdisk with the ubuntu live cd?09:12
bjvid need a disk image with support for old cdroms, but i dont see any on it.09:13
cafuegobjv: is debootstrap installed on the livecd?09:13
bjvi dont know, it's a 5.04 ubuntu disk,09:13
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srijiththoreauputic: quick fluxbox question.. how did you make the menu item for reboot and shutdown? Using su-to-root? or xterm -e 'sudo...'?09:14
thoreauputicsrijith: I didn't - I just logout - or have I misunderstood your question?09:15
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Carpe_LibertatemHow can I get a compiler installed in Ubuntu capable of creating executables?09:15
bjvit is something like 'apt-get install build-essential'09:16
srijiththoreauputic: shutdown and reboot? logout is just fine.09:16
crimsunookla: please paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:16
cafuegoCarpe_Libertatem: 'build-essential'09:16
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setitewho thinks linux is a true substitute for windows'09:16
Carpe_Libertatemk09:16
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: install the build-essential package09:16
cafuegoCarpe_Libertatem: ask ubotu about 'compiling'09:16
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ooklacrimsun, amixer (what command)?09:17
thoreauputicsrijith: if I want to shutdown or reboot I either type the command or log out and do it from gdm09:17
ompaulwhats the report on colony3 good bad or other?09:17
crimsunookla: just ,,amixer''09:17
srijithhaa ok..09:17
ooklacrimsun, ok09:17
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thoreauputicookla: I haven't rebooted for 56 days anyway ;)09:18
cafuegosetite: it's not. It lacks the integrated support for crashes, worms, viruses and easy trashing of critical system files.09:18
thoreauputicbah sorry ookla09:18
setiteinteresting... never had those problems09:18
thoreauputicsrijith: my comment to ookla was for you09:18
ooklathoreauputic, woot :)09:18
setitei miss the it just works feel09:18
setitei want wmp9 to work09:18
setiteim dying to get it to work09:19
srijiththoreauputic: that helps I guess :)09:19
cafuegosetite: Email microsoft and get them to free the codec specs.09:19
setitehaha right... thats gonna happen09:19
Madpilotcafuego: "integrated support" indeed!09:19
ompaulwell heres one for ya - 3 minutes after starting a torrent to get the livecd version nothing - zippo not a bit or a byte ...09:19
setitebut i really dont get it... if they allow mac users to use it... why not do it for linux09:19
davroi do not miss the, it just work but also lets the whole world know its working feel.09:19
setiteompaul: yea im not liking torrents on linux so far09:20
ompaulsetite, because they want Linux users to use Microsoft09:20
Madpilotsetite: $$$$ - Apple pays, I bet09:20
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cafuegosetite: They'd admit Linux was a real, useful OS for end users. They can't do that.09:20
setiteMadpilot: yea that might be it09:20
ompaulsetite, I do and have done for some time now I will http/ftp grab it and offer it out09:20
setitecafuego: maybe in their minds that would be what they were doing09:20
setiteompaul: what?09:21
cafuegosetite: Are you implying they have those? ;-)09:21
ooklacrimsun, you see the paste?09:21
setitecafuego: not logical ones... but money hungry ones09:21
ompaulsetite, I do and have done ubuntu / kanotix torrents this is the first failure09:21
setitecafuego: from a businessman's perspective you must admire what they did09:22
setitehave you seen the lawsuit amd has filed09:22
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arpheticHello09:22
setiteread up on the lawsuit09:23
ompaulsetite, what admire a company for abusing its monopoly (or significant player) status in the market place to close off competition - no I despise that kind of behaviour09:23
Madpilotsetite: the one against Intel?09:23
HrdwrBoBlinux is not a substitute for winwows09:23
arpheticIm wondering why i cant install XMMS <_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/135409:23
setiteMadpilot: yes...09:23
HrdwrBoBsubstitute implies you would prefer the other09:23
HrdwrBoBand default to the other09:23
ompaulHrdwrBoB, it is a suitable replacement :)09:23
setiteompaul: all that in plain sight09:23
HrdwrBoBompaul: for my purposes it is an inherently superior replacement09:24
crimsunookla: sec09:24
HrdwrBoBarphetic: why are you compiling xmms09:24
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I see my local IP addy in Ubuntu?09:24
srijithcan anyone suggest a no nonsense MP3+/ogg player for Linux, along the likes of Foobar2000 for windows?09:24
ompaulHrdwrBoB, hey now, come on, thats a given09:24
HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get install xmms09:24
HrdwrBoBin any case I have to go09:24
thoreauputicCarpe_Libertatem: ifconfig09:24
srijithnot xmms please :)09:24
setitethe only thing they did that i despise is how they illegally used AMD to further themselves and subsequentially almost destroyed amd... while not following the rule to have amd be the secondary creator of the processor09:24
ooklaCarpe_Libertatem, ifconfig in a console09:24
cafuegosetite: I have no time for lawsuits (or alwyers)09:24
setitea trick that backfired and forced amd to creat their own superior platform09:25
setitewhoops09:25
setitei mean intel vs amd.. not microsoft09:25
arpheticHrdwrBoB, im trying to install it ;)09:25
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setitehaha i keep getting it in my head that they are the same company09:25
kvidellsetite: me too09:25
cafuegosetite: Linux already IS a superior platform. YOU are the one insisting on using inferior technology on it (wm9)09:25
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kvidellMicrosoft -> Intel. nVidia -> AMD is usually what I do09:25
thoreauputicsrijith: no-nonsense mp3 player --->  mpg321 /path/to/file.mp3  ;-)09:25
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setitecafuego: i am merely insisting that i need to be able to do everything on it... like listen to xm radio online09:26
setitewhich i cant because their is no support on linux FF for it09:26
srijiththoreauputic: I do need to add 20~30 odd songs into the player at one go and not pass them one by one09:26
cafuegosetite: Why would a superior OS need to include inferior technolgies?09:26
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Madpilotsrijith: not familiar with Foobar for Win, but try Muine for music09:26
crimsunookla: oh, there's a simple workaround for your issue in Hoary.09:26
cafuegosetite: Tell xm radio to update!09:26
setitekvidell: thats a little screwy.. nvidia? your getting confused09:26
crimsunookla: amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off09:27
setitecafuego: you must know how hard it would be...09:27
srijithMadpilot: thanks, will take a look09:27
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thoreauputicsrijith: do you want it to be pretty?09:27
setiteto tell them to spend however much money their web devs will charge them...09:27
arpheticpaulproteus, Its working now btw :}09:27
kvidellsetite: Yea... I associate nVidia with AMD a lot09:27
davrodavro slaps microsoft, amd, apple, with a pocket full of bothereds09:27
kvidellI think It's just because I like the09:27
setitekvidell: well i do sometimes...09:27
srijiththoreauputic: nope.. the absolute least of my concern!09:27
kvidellthem*09:27
arpheticAnyone tell me, how do I install XMMS on Ubuntu>09:27
Madpilotsrijith: Muine loads by albums, too09:27
bob2arphetic: sudo aptitude install xmms09:27
setitekvidell: nvidia makes great video cards and really good motherboard modules...09:27
srijiththoreauputic: small footprint in terms of memory, cpu etc.09:27
bob2arphetic: as someone already told you09:27
setitei cant remember what they call that shit09:28
thoreauputicsrijith: well, there are several console apps09:28
setitethe motherboard thing that nvidia makes09:28
kvidellsetite: chipsets09:28
arpheticbob2, where did someone tell me?09:28
PurpleMotionati makes FAR superior video cards09:28
setitetheres nvidia... sis... via09:28
setiteyea chipset09:28
thoreauputicsrijith:  cplay or mp3blaster for instance09:28
arpheticah09:28
arpheticnvrmind09:28
kvidellPurpleMotion: If you like noise and interferance, sure. :-P09:28
ooklacrimsun, hmm now systemsounds woot BUT totem can't start :(09:28
setitePurpleMotion: i think you are on crack sir... but i will not argue because it is futile09:28
bob2HrdwrBoB did09:28
arphetici useally only watch for highlights here sorry09:28
arphetic;)09:28
srijiththoreauputic: thanks.... will have a look at them.. damn how I wish someone ported foorbar to linux09:28
crimsunookla: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?09:28
oceandeadhey madpilot, does it matter if my laptop is really old09:28
PurpleMotionmy radeon 9700 pro 256 decimated every vnidia card i have ever seen09:29
oceandeadhehe09:29
PurpleMotionnvidia09:29
thoreauputicsrijith: also alsaplayer works well - it has a gui and is quite light on resources09:29
Madpilotoceandead: probably not, there's some 4-5 yr old machines already signed up, I think09:29
ooklacrimsun, how can I tell?09:29
srijithmuine, cplaym mp3blaster, alsaplayer.. nice nice thanks guys!09:29
kvidellPurpleMotion: My GeForce MX4000 was able to play Goom 3 and HL2 at highest settings... My friends 9800pro could not. My card is 64bit, his is.. much more, lol.. 128?09:29
crimsunookla: dpkg -l totem\*|grep ^ii09:29
oceandeadah this ones older... like 98'/99'09:30
kvidellDoom3 even09:30
PurpleMotionthen he had driver issues09:30
ooklagstream09:30
PurpleMotioncause my radeon was the shiznit09:30
kvidellPurpleMotion: That's my second point. ATI can't write drivers to save their life :)09:30
PurpleMotionhell, THIS radeon os nice :)09:30
setitePurpleMotion: all i can say is look at the facts... and i feel that you will come to like nvidia more09:30
PurpleMotionis09:30
crimsunookla: what does the Test in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector>Default Sink do?09:30
arphetic sudo apt-get install xmms <- after that just make install?09:30
iiiearscrimsun - you ARE good! - ookla has sound. :)09:30
setitein reality both are equal09:30
kvidellTheir linux drivers (or lack there of in some cases) have been less than spectacular09:31
setitebut when it comes to having many cards... and having your ati's be faulty... in hardware and in the drivers09:31
Madpilotarphetic: no, just do the apt-get...09:31
arpheticand the done?09:31
crimsuniiiears: pretty common issue for versions of ALSA prior to 1.0.909:31
PurpleMotionnah, i'll like ati more regardless because they draw a better picture on my screen.. crisper anti-aliasing, etc.. i dont reallyc are about speed, i dont play games09:31
arpheticah i see09:31
arphetictyt09:31
ooklacrimsun, esd09:31
setiteand the fact that ATI has a microsoft business model in that their support for linux is severely lacking09:31
ompaularphetic, no it is installed a that time09:31
setitenvidia drivers far surpass ati drivers on linux09:31
iiiearsookla - log this chat 'n email to yourself you'll have it if you need it again.09:31
setitedue to the fact that nvidia trys harder09:31
crimsunookla: do you hear sound when you click Test?09:31
PurpleMotionfor speed maybe09:31
ooklacrimsun, yes09:32
PurpleMotionbut ati cards are a LOT prettier09:32
kvidellYea.. I've had crap luck with ATI's for many reasons. They let in a lot of noise that caused my display to look _god awful_, or they just plain didn't work, windows and linux...09:32
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kvidellPurpleMotion:I've not had that experience.09:32
crimsunookla: what are you trying to play with Totem?09:32
setitenope09:32
Madpilotarphetic: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:32
ilba7rwhat is the command line to switch themes in ubuntu?09:32
setiteive looked at the screenshots side by side09:32
PurpleMotionkvidell:  sorry to hear it09:32
setiteand their is no difference09:32
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ooklacrimsun, mp309:32
crimsunookla: have you installed 'gstreamer0.8-mad'?09:32
PurpleMotionyeah there is09:32
Madpilot!mp309:32
ubotuwell, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:32
Madpilotookla: see ubotu ^^^09:32
setiteive played games on my nvidia... and on a friedns ati... and their is no difference09:32
PurpleMotionthere sure is to me09:33
ilba7r!themes09:33
PurpleMotiona HUGE difference09:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com09:33
PurpleMotionbig difference in flow too09:33
ompaularphetic, the concept is that in 99.9% of cases the software installs and just works - though I have found this figure to be higher09:33
setiteive tried doom3.... hl2... cs... cs source... vtmb... coh.. all the same09:33
ooklacrimsun, yes gstreamer0.8-mad is installed09:33
PurpleMotionati's seem to render a lot more smoothly for me09:33
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setitealso.. ati overcharges...09:33
ooklacrimsun, getting device busy09:33
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micheleati? what's up with ati?09:33
PurpleMotioni gave up an old ati tv wonder pro card for this 925009:33
[Triffid] setite: i think most people's issues with ati cards in linux prevail before they even get to run anything.. once its working you just get random crashes with some setups09:33
setiteand as a linuxant... nvidia has better performance due to the drivers09:34
PurpleMotionand it's pretty nice09:34
crimsunookla: does it play with Rhythmbox (Music Player)?09:34
setitewell if you look at linux benchmarks09:34
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ompaul!tell michele about ati09:34
cafuego[Triffid] : Not to mention the woeful non-x86 support09:34
MadpilotPurpleMotion & setite: maybe take the great vid card debate to #ubuntu-offtopic?09:34
setitein windows... there is room for argument... but on linux.... the drivers are sorely lacking due to the fact that ati doesnt care09:35
PurpleMotionMadpilot:  how about drop it instead09:35
setitedamn you Madpilot i was gonna say that after that last statement09:35
micheleompaul, I know I know... people were speaking about it I hope for some good news09:35
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[Triffid] cafuego: nvidia gpu/x86-32 here so no worries at all ;)09:35
cafuego[Triffid] : nvidia on x86_64 is fine too.09:35
micheleompaul, like the new xorg driver making it for breezy, for example09:35
setitewell i was gonna say that was my final word...09:35
ooklacrimsun, yes rhythembox but bad sound09:35
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crimsunookla: try installing 'totem-xine' then09:36
HiThereis there a reason my resolution keeps changing by itself?09:36
highvoltagehow do i disable that screen that asks for root password if i log into single user mode in ubuntu?09:36
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ooklacrimsun, ok will do thanx much have to head09:36
setite!libdvd09:36
ubotusetite: I give up, what is it?09:36
davrohas anyone managed to get a Wacom ArtPad II working in ubuntu.09:36
setiteok everyone.l... if you have the marillat libdvdcss2.. remove it09:36
PurpleMotiondoes single mode even WORK if you havent enabled root?09:36
setitei had both and the marillat one sucks09:37
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: yes it does09:37
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PurpleMotioncool09:37
Dreamer3hmmmmm09:37
setiteit pixellates and has horrible progressive scan and interlacing... it plain barely decrypts.. whereas the one on hoary extras is beautiful09:37
HiThereis there a reason my resolution keeps changing by itself?09:37
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Dreamer3i set a background by launching nautilus inside of xfce and now i can't get xfce to change the background09:37
PurpleMotioni need to merge the contents of runlevel 2 into runlevel 5 and make runlevel 2 command line mode09:37
setitewhats single mode09:37
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I go about networking to a windows system using samba?09:38
PurpleMotionthat way i can just init up and down :D09:38
crimsunDreamer3: that's because nautilus is actually covering up Xfce's09:38
PurpleMotion!samba09:38
thoreauputic!samba09:38
ubotumethinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:38
Madpilot!samba09:38
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Dreamer3crimsun: but i killed it09:38
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setitesamba is god09:38
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Madpilot"someone already said that 0 seconds ago"... oops, sorry ubotu... ;)09:38
setitei used it with my modded xbox to streme media from my pc to my tv09:38
crimsunDreamer3: did you clear ~/.cache too?09:38
setitestream*09:38
setitePurpleMotion: have you gone mad?09:39
crimsunDreamer3: next time, pass --no-desktop to nautilus09:39
HiThereis there a reason my resolution keeps changing by itself?09:39
PurpleMotionsetite:  stark raving09:39
setitehey does kopete suck?09:39
PurpleMotioncompard to gaim?09:39
setitei cant find out hoe to edit my buddylist09:39
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Dreamer3crimsun: yeah :) so i can't get my desktop back now without restarting X?09:39
setitewell kopete seems better than gaim to me... but i hate that i have to log into gaim to do some things..09:40
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crimsunDreamer3: you did or didn't remove ~/.cache?09:40
thoreauputiccrimsun: shouldn't --no-desktop be the default in an xfce4 menu? I had the same issue and edited the menu..09:40
PurpleMotionubotu, start an editor war09:40
ubotugedit is better than emacs09:40
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Dreamer3crimsun: interesting, what is .cache?09:40
crimsunthoreauputic: it's not set that way by default09:40
crimsunDreamer3: it's Xfce's cache dir09:41
thoreauputiccrimsun: I know - but I meant it should be :)09:41
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crimsunthoreauputic: for Nautilus or for the file manager?09:41
Dreamer3crimsun: ok, i removed it09:41
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thoreauputiccrimsun: nautilus09:41
crimsunDreamer3: restarting Xfce should suffice, then09:41
Dreamer3crimsun: man09:42
crimsunthoreauputic: how would we go about patching --no-desktop into it?09:42
Dreamer3is it in a layer or something?09:42
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crimsunDreamer3: essentially, yes09:42
thoreauputiccrimsun: ah, I see your point09:42
HiTherewhy do I keep losing video feed?09:42
Dreamer3crimsun: well, there is a way to remove it :)09:43
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crimsunHiThere: sounds like a hardware issue: Have you checked the monitor cable?09:43
thoreauputiccrimsun: in fluxbox the fluxbox_generate-menu script does it - but of course that is outside the app itself so i see what you mean09:43
HiThereyes09:44
HiThereits only happens when I open and start transfering with gftp09:44
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crimsuncan't say I've heard of that before09:44
setiteyou know what i miss abotu windows09:45
crimsunHiThere: what graphics driver are you using?09:45
ompaulHiThere, sorry where is this video feed coming from ?09:45
ompaulsetite, I hope it is nothing09:45
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setitethe stupidity of its users... i used to have lots of fun with trojan apps like sub7 and the early netbus09:45
ompaulPurpleMotion, tough love huh?09:46
osfameronhmmm09:46
setitenever liked backorifice....09:46
osfameronyou don't miss sane power management and sane network control applets?09:46
PurpleMotionuh huh09:46
setiteosfameron: ??09:46
osfameronsetite: I close lid of laptop, it doesn't sleep09:46
setitei do miss the easy power management...09:46
setitemine does09:46
setitewell it doesnt sleep sleep... i think09:46
setitebut the screen turns off09:47
osfameronmine shuts down the hard disk, but still hammers the battery09:47
setitein gnome i have to log back into ubuntu09:47
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osfameronalso, doesn't sleep when it realizes it's running out of battery09:47
crimsunyou should be able to issue ,,echo -n 3 | sudo tee -a /proc/acpi/sleep''09:47
osfameronand the network things are annoying09:47
setitewell for that i just hibernate09:47
osfameronthe netwrok monitor is broken09:47
osfamerongnome net-applet is broken and useless09:47
osfameronand wifi-radar is nice, but iirc isn't even packaged09:47
osfameron+ you have to explicitly load and manually configure pptpconfig to get VPN working09:48
osfameron(either that, or grok pppd and pptp manpages, which have very few examples)09:48
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HiTheresorry, I am using a ATI Radeon 9250 card09:48
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ompaulosfameron, ppt is that the insecure VPN protocol?09:48
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crimsunosfameron: wifi-radar is available in Breezy. See http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=wifi-radar09:49
osfameronompaul, dunno, it's the one we have at work - needs to accept Linux, Mac, Win connections09:49
michelewell breezy has network manager... that should be enough and better than radar09:49
osfameroncrimsun, michele : cool - don't get me wrong09:50
NathanialHey can anyone help me with a problem I'm having with themes?09:50
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osfameronI'm impressed with ubuntu as *many* things work out of box09:50
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ompaulosfameron, OpenVPN is a lot better, and rather good imho (but then anytime anyone says VPN I say Open - must have been really easy to set up and manage :)09:50
arphetic:/ WHY the fuck doesnt Gnome have KCrickety or something like that09:50
arpheticKLickety09:50
arpheticw/e09:50
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osfameronbut if it auto-configures power management, and has a full complement of worky network applets, it'll be even better09:50
MadpilotNathanial: best to state the actual problem you're having...09:50
Madpilot!question09:50
ubotuMadpilot: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:50
Madpilot!questions09:51
ubotu[questions]  what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading09:51
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micheleosfameron, I fully agree with you (though I can't miss these things from windows as I've never used it on a laptop)09:51
thoreauputicarphetic: wtf is klickety ?09:51
ompaularphetic, because its not KDE09:51
osfameronit's in my synaptic09:51
osfameronoh, but not authenticated09:51
ompaulMadpilot, ask is good :)09:51
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NathanialOkay I installed a dark theme from gnome art, and in mozilla all the black font is white, and hard to read. Its like this for every dark theme I install.09:51
ompaul!tell Madpilot about ask :)09:51
ompaul!tell Madpilot about ask09:52
ompaulMadpilot, :)09:52
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mchasardhi09:52
ompaulhello09:52
Madpilotompaul: man, that should be part of the /topic! it is better than !questions09:52
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ompaulMadpilot, well you have choices it is open :)09:52
Madpilotarphetic: klickety shows up in Synaptic for me09:52
mchasardi would like to use ubuntu as a live cd only but save my config on a usb key ...is there a tool included ?09:53
TheGnomei switched back to debian........    : 009:53
TheGnomesorry guys09:53
mchasardlike many others distro09:53
Prowl3rHowdy TheGnome09:53
TheGnomeProwl3r, hello09:53
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NathanialI mean its like this for EVERY dark theme I install.  I can't find a fix, and its hard to read text, and I like dark themes though.09:54
Prowl3rIt's me ATI_RAGE_ you helped me a couple days back thanks09:54
arpheticrofl i wasnt being serious guys :)09:54
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arpheticSame GNOME will do as well :] 09:55
MadpilotNathanial: can Firefox be edited for font type/colour? (I use Opera, and it can...)09:55
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ompaul!tell Prowl3r about ati09:55
TheGnomeProwl3r, you can download the ati drivers from their site09:55
ompaulahh Prowl3r is the user formerly known as ATI_RAGE09:55
TheGnomeProwl3r, or   apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx09:56
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Nathanialokay I'll try this. I also have the problem in XCHAT and GAIM, pretty much every font09:56
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mchasardplease is there an answer for me ?09:56
micheleNathanial, xchat has its own themes too. get one from xchat.org09:56
Prowl3rlol09:56
clem_yeatsmchasard: what's the question ?09:56
Prowl3rYes TheGnome lol the ATI nut09:57
TheGnomethats me09:57
Prowl3rwell I'm kinda an ATI nut aswell09:57
Nathanialuh thanks for the help guys :)09:57
mchasardi would like to know if theres a tool included in ubuntu to save/restore config ?09:57
mchasardon a usb key for exemple09:58
Prowl3rTheir stuff just seems to work for me, ATI Rage 3d card worked great under linux and beos09:58
mchasardlile many others distro09:58
clem_yeatsmchasard: what kind of config ?09:58
mchasarda config for which i can retrieve all the parameters for a next reboot of a live cd09:58
michelemchasard, just use the other distro. slax or something09:59
mchasardhum yes but its not ubuntu ;-)09:59
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mchasardpity that such a tool can't be find09:59
clem_yeatsmchasard: I think the live CD of ubuntu is only intended to be a demo cd.. rather than something used by people who go from one computer to another.10:00
Madpilotneed sleep... later all.10:00
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mchasardmepis was also the same but thez include recently onthego feature10:00
clem_yeatsmchasard: you could install ubuntu though and use the slax tool to make a live CD version of your Ubuntu install.10:00
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mchasardreally but ubuntu and slax are different not based on the same10:01
PurpleMotioni like the control the ubuntu live cd gives you, but i like the way knoppix boots up a lot better10:02
clem_yeatsI know, but slax is a demo, it's the result of a set of tools dedicated to transform a linux installation into a bootable CD.10:02
clem_yeatsmchasard: I never tried, but I think it would be ok to use slax tools to make a live Ubuntu CD.10:02
PurpleMotionsome pretty fancy scripting in those live cds10:02
mchasardhum i'm not a very good linux user to be able to make it10:04
PurpleMotionive been using linux for years and i wouldnt even think about it ;)10:04
PurpleMotionbut then again, im just a user10:04
mchasardsuch a tool is not on the todo list of ubuntu ?10:04
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xrnathquestion: In ubuntu what can i use to view flash .swf ?10:05
xrnathnot within a browser, thats no prob10:05
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mchasardok thanks is there a french room for ubuntu ?10:06
volvoguythose slax cd's (and cd building tools) are pretty slick. i keep a mini-cd in my car at all times. :)10:06
clem_yeatsmchasard: I'm French :)10:06
mchasardok good to learn that ...10:06
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esenthielHi - I am having trouble setting my resolution higher than 1024x768 - I tried setting it manually in xorg.conf but something messed up.10:08
Prowl3rCya everyone10:09
HiThereso why is my video feed going out when I run gftp?10:09
ttjI have a machine with only SATA disk-drives. How do I install ubuntu when debian-installer can't find my disks?10:09
arphetic:/10:09
arpheticThere is a writing error while writing new boot record to first hard disk drive. ????10:10
arpheticDoes this have anything to do with the MBR?10:10
ompaularphetic, it can do, and that is not an unreasonable suggestion10:11
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HiTherewhy is my video feed going out when I run gftp?10:13
ompaulHiThere, I asked before where is this video feed coming from?10:13
HiTheremy video card?10:13
ompaulno, what are you watching - what is generating the output - which programs10:14
HiTherejust the desktop and gftp10:14
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ompaulHiThere, and when you turn on gftp you get a 'black' screen or something else?10:15
HiThereyea, the monitor says "mode not supported"10:15
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arpheticWTF -> Error: Hard Disk Drive is protected against writing?10:16
ompaulahh now theres a thing try the following system - preferences - screen resolution and increase the resolution if you can10:16
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arpheticI tried to activate the partition10:16
ompaularphetic, got some norton installed on there or a little piece of bios that is trying to help but gets in the way10:17
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arphetic?10:17
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caramboljoin #debian10:18
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ompaularphetic, some bios settings offer to 'mind' the harddrive and protect it against a boot sector virus - also if you are using some antivirus software it thinks it is its god given right to write protect the mbr10:19
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tristanmikeThank You Everybody for your help, have a good night/day see you later10:20
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setiteyou know why kde rocks10:21
setitebecause konqueror can do some things firefox wont10:21
rowanjlHey guys, I'm trying to solve a bug that keeps happening with new Linux distros (Fedora Core 4, 4.10 and now 5.4). I've filed the bug report for Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=165192) but so far the problem is unsolved. Anyone want to take a look and see if they can reproduce it? Any information would be useful10:22
arpheticompaul: i got it10:22
Sonderbladesetite, which things?10:22
arpheticits the bios virus utiliyu ;)10:22
ompaularphetic, what was it10:22
ompaularphetic, :)10:22
arphetic:)10:22
arpheticI found it in google10:22
arphetic:)10:22
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arpheticsome discription wrote everything i needed lol10:22
michelesetite, the reverse is also true, I guess10:23
rowanjlIf anyone can think of a way to reproduce the bug, after the system is set up, let me know :)10:23
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ompaulrowanjl, it is not a Ubuntu issue :)10:23
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rowanjlompaul, yes it is...10:24
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rowanjlI have a feeling it might be something to do with newer kernels, as FC3 didn't do it. I can't say for Ubuntu versions before 4.1010:24
Dreamer31rowanjl: what?10:24
rowanjlompaul, it might be a Fedora issue, but it also happens with Ubuntu10:25
ompaulrowanjl, not that I am aware of10:25
rowanjlDreamer3, scroll up 10 lines...10:25
eliphas_morning10:25
ompaulrowanjl, and I have installed Ubuntu on several systems10:25
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rowanjlompaul, as far as I know I'm the only one who has had it :)10:25
rowanjlompaul, its real strange, but it could be anything causing the problem'10:25
michelerowanjl, my guess is that you screwed something up. never happened to anyone else, AFAIK10:25
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ompaulrowanjl, then your idea of doing something at some stange time in the setup is not helping things10:26
rowanjlmichele, its not something screwed up, honest10:26
rowanjljust a plain install10:26
cafuegowoo10:26
cute_bettongwhats colony 3?10:26
setiteyay... terrayaki beef steak nuggets!10:26
rowanjlWhat am I doing in the install that is so strange?10:26
michelerowanjl, you should try to install again and see if it happens again. that's the only way to confirm it might be a bug10:26
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ompaulrowanjl, you are installing it, when do you try to use that user, i.e. at what stage of the process?10:27
rowanjlmichele, as I said, it happens in FC4, 4.10 and 5.0410:27
aleksidoes anyone have experience on video editing in ubuntu?10:27
setitewho lives in a non-24 hour town10:27
cute_bettongbob2 whats colony 3?10:27
Dreamer31ok10:27
rowanjlompaul, the normal part where it asks you to create a user?10:27
aleksiand which software would people recommend?10:27
setitewhat the hell do you do when you crave something at like 3 or 4 in the morning...10:27
arpheticHow did i check the version i have?10:27
Dreamer31anyway i can get window-1, window-2, etc to switch desktops in xfce?10:27
Dreamer31if so i think i'd be in love10:27
Dreamer31old habits die hard10:28
ompaulthat is not the time to test its 'being there' that stage is after first reboot10:28
ompaulsetite, think of something else :)10:28
rowanjlompaul, pardon?10:28
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seliniumOk people, how do i read a memo sent to me?10:28
seliniumin IRC10:28
cafuegoselinium: /msg memoserv help10:28
arphetic!version10:28
ubotuarphetic: I give up, what is it?10:28
seliniumcafuego: cheers!10:29
arphetic!help10:29
ompaulrowanjl, the point at which one checks the availablity of the user account is after the machine has rebooted once, after the install10:29
rowanjlompaul, huh? During the install when it asks you to make a user, thats what I do. When I try to login as the user things get barfed because the user doesn't own its own home directory10:30
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rowanjlompaul, did you understand me? :/10:32
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Renski2Im trying to setup my D-Link DWL-G650, and im reading this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36800 , how can I tell what the right linux-headers package is?10:32
zerboxxsetite: heh, I didn't have to, but for some reason my audio sounds better if it's not at 100%, so I made a little script that'll keep it at 95%10:33
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bronco!ati10:33
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:33
ubiquitinanyone here using Breezy and Skype?10:33
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osfaKontact-- # the bloody KWallet thing pops up, asking your password, and *doesn't take focus*10:33
cute_bettongi thought x was broken in breezy?10:33
osfahow retarded is that?10:33
ompaulrowanjl, I have over 10 years installing and using unix like operating systems, yeap I understood, you are suggesting that /home/rowan does not have the permissions  ronan:ronan on your ubuntu box after you setting up the box first time10:34
Ngosfa: file a bug report :)10:34
setitewhy wont firefox run a chm help10:34
NathanialDoes anybody know how to change the defualt firefox icon to the new icon/10:34
setitebut konqueror will10:34
ubiquitinosfa: but that's what KDE is all about :))10:34
osfaNg, good plan10:34
osfaWell, Kmail is significantly shinier than Evolution10:34
ompaulrowanjl, actually change the word permissions to ownership10:34
rowanjlompaul, exactly, and as Ubuntu and Fedora don't share the same firstboot I find this really odd :/10:34
rowanjlompaul, yep10:35
cute_bettongi like thunderbird myself10:35
osfabut I think I might go back to Thunderbird, as it works, and doesn't make me want to throw it out of the window10:35
cute_bettongit seems to have really good junk mail filters10:35
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rowanjlompaul, I'd like to try and get it fixed before breezy10:35
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rowanjlBut as I don't even know what causes it... well yeah!10:35
ompaulrowanjl, it is not happening to anyone else or it would be well documented with a work around10:36
osfagah, Kontact bug report wizard won't launch: needs 'kfmclient'.  Back to synaptc :-)10:36
ompaulrowanjl, and if it is only happening to you then I suggest it it something you are doing, common to both boxes10:36
NathanialNlw10:36
ompaulrowanjl, or common to both installs10:36
Nathanial*how do you change the firefox icon to the new icon?10:36
rowanjlompaul, one box, three versions of linux, following normal installation10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow does ubuntu react to belkin routers?10:37
ompaulrowanjl, okay, and they all have their own /home?10:37
osfaOh, kfmclient isn't in synaptic10:37
rowanjlI don't do anything unusual when installing Ubuntu10:37
osfathat's handy10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm buying a brand new in the box belkin router for 9.99 if ubuntu can tolerate it10:37
rowanjlompaul, the user created at install? yep10:37
setitedoes ubuntu have problem wiht routers?10:37
rowanjlompaul, actually!10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's even 801.11g ^_^10:37
ompaulrowanjl, no sorry, they are all using a seperate partition for home?10:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYsettite don't use d-link >.<10:38
rowanjlompaul, yes, I completely forgot... duhh10:38
setiteok...10:38
setiteyea im a linksys guy.....10:38
rowanjlompaul, that would be it, wouldn't it?10:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYthey seem to burn out to quick10:38
setitehad de-link years ago10:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can't forward anyports anymore10:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut this belkin one seems really nice10:39
ompaulrowanjl, so the problem exists where?10:39
rowanjlompaul, if the partitions are not mounted when it makes the user, that would explain alot10:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's got a built in hardware firewall besides port forwarding and other "nifty" securety features10:39
zerboxxIs there any reason why "fullscreen" in mplayer is just the same size, but the rest of the screen goes black10:40
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setitehow do i get wmp9 plugin to work10:40
setiteit works on windows so there must be a way to work it on the linux ff10:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYzerboxx: annoying ant it? i've been looking for the answer for like 3 monthes now >.<10:40
Ngeasy10:41
Ngstick "zoom=yes" in your ~/.mplayer/config file10:41
Ng:)10:41
ompaulrowanjl, they are not mounted before the machine reboots with the correct names - the real / is on the cdrom at that time10:41
setiteChurcH_of_FoamY: what?10:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYare you shittin me O_o10:41
setitehaha... so simple10:41
seliniumlanguage Foamy .. :)10:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYsetite:  what about what?10:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYselinium: sorry man >.<10:42
setitewhat about mplayer.. it doesnt zoom?10:42
seliniumChurcH_of_FoamY: lol10:42
zerboxxChurcH_of_FoamY: It is that easy!10:42
arpheticAnyone has an idea where all these maps come from? like C:/#%@!^@&_&%*(#!%&!@%&!@(*10:42
arpheticI mean, only thing i did was running TinyLinux10:42
arpheticfdisk10:43
zerboxxNg: That was too easy, thanks! (not sure why that isn't an option but whatever, it's fixed now)10:43
setitedoes mplayer do anything that kaffeine doesnt?10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYa customer bought a 486 dx 66 and wants me to upgrade it >.< lol10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi hate stupid people >.<10:43
setitegod dont you love that10:43
setitemy friend bought some old pc10:43
setitereally old10:43
setitei havent even heard of the company10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi mean a 486 dx 66 who the heck uses them anymore10:43
setiteit has less than a gig harddrive10:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow10:43
setitelike one of the pcs when laptops were inventend10:44
setiteit doesnt have a floppy drive10:44
setitedoes that give a hint at how old it is10:44
setiteno drives10:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis one has a 128 mb hd and a wopping 32mb 72 pin edo10:44
rowanjlChurcH_of_FoamY, lots of servos have them :)10:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYholy cow10:44
setiteit was a DECpc10:44
micheleless than a gig? I still have my 84MB HD at home10:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o10:44
micheleand my 386 40MHz10:44
michelefrom cyrix10:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYjeeze the oldest box i have is the one i'm using10:45
setitewell sorry.. less than a gig is small to me10:45
seliniumI am still using a athlon 900 as my main machine!10:45
setitelemme find the specs10:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYa pIII 600b Mhz10:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwith 2 gigs pc13310:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand with ubuntu it runs faster than my my p4 1.5mhz with 768mb rambus10:46
seliniumChurcH_of_FoamY: wins on the processor front! I only have 128 of RAm10:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYalthough i must say that rambus ricks10:46
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi have a 1200mb swap in this box and theres 1200mb free in that swap ^_^10:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYi love it10:46
twibblergood morning all .10:47
setitecan i take off the password on kde wallet10:47
clem_yeatshi twibbler10:47
setitei dont want password protection10:47
setitei want my pc free to all10:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu really does give new life to older machenes i mean i get a faster fps in source than on my windows box10:47
user1anyone have ndiswrapper working?10:48
setitesource?10:48
twibblerI have ndiswrapper working fine ...10:48
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user1modprobe will not insert ndiswrapper for me complaining about the dot ko file10:49
twibblersudo modprobe ndiswrapper ...10:49
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nemlahHello all10:49
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setitehere is that old pc http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=177&item=521255995910:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYmy pc specs pIII 600mhz mem=2gigs hard drive 10,000 rpm 120gig raptor gigabit ethernet 10/100/1000 ethernet card usb 2.0 card firewire card wireless (not microsoft) keyboard and mouse and an 80 gig storage drive at 75,000 rpm10:50
user1I'm inserting from a root terminal. It reports a fatal error10:50
nemlahCan someone point me to information on using the latest kernel snapshots with ubuntu10:50
ilba7ranyone using enlightenment10:50
twibbleruserl can you do a ndiswrapper -l10:50
user1its not there10:50
twibblerwhat ndiswrapper ...10:51
setitedecpc 320p... i cant find that stats on it10:51
nemlahanyone using the 2.6.13-rcx kernels?10:51
user1sorry... one minute, its on another machine I need to boot10:51
nemlahapparently they do contain a v4l patch needed10:51
jtan325has anyone gotten the java plug-in to work in firefox?10:51
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jtan325i've got the jre-1.5 installed from the repos10:52
nemlahyeah10:52
setiteMS-DOS 5, 20 MHz 386sx, 80-meg drive, 6 MB RAM, grayscale VGA display10:52
jtan325and according to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java, that's all i need to do10:52
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setiteand he wanted winxp10:52
ilba7ranyone know how to change the default theme of nautilus?10:52
setiteya10:52
jtan325but it's not showing up in "about:plugins"10:52
jtan325and java stuff isn't loading10:52
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ilba7rsorry let me rephrase how to change gtk themes using command line10:52
nemlahlook at the unofficial http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre10:52
twibblerI wonder if anybody could answer a ? about booting up .. system now boots up to login prompt only after upgrade .. have to run startx10:53
nemlahjtan 325 it worked for me10:53
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jtan325hmm yeah i already read that10:54
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setitehmmm.. twibbler what did you do10:55
setitedid you install or uninstall your desktop10:55
setiteactually i shouldnt take your question.... i should wait for someone else... i think i know why butnot how to fix it10:56
setiteill ask one thing... do you see GDM or KDM loading as your pc boots10:56
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mrchicago /server irc.criten.net10:56
user1twibbler: ndiswrapper -l works fine, the driver is present10:57
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setitewhats the command to open a new server10:57
user1when I modprobe -i ndiswrapper the comp reports10:57
setite./server -soemthing irc.blah.net10:58
user1FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper ( path to ko ): Operation not permitted10:58
setiteuser1:10:58
setiteuse sudo10:58
setitei get operation not permitted when i dont use sudo first10:58
setiteso "sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper"10:59
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setitedid this room die?10:59
user1setite: I'm doing the operation from a root terminal, sudo is not needed10:59
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setiteok then... dont know...11:00
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Rodhi11:00
setitewhere did everyone go11:00
azriel0184sudo -s is good for getting a root terminal11:00
setitedid i get booted on a split?11:00
user1anyone: this is driving me nuts I'm thinking about putting a bounty on this11:00
nemlahanyone with kernel 2.6.13 ?11:00
setiteive never foudn the need for a root terminal11:00
zaidhello11:00
nemlahis there a way to update to this kernel tree>11:01
azriel0184setite: i do all the time11:01
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zaidevery body11:01
nemlahhello zaid11:01
setiteChurcH_of_FoamY: you there11:01
setiteazriel0184: what for11:01
Roddid you try a colony3 install? im running hoary happily but wondering what's in the make :)11:01
ilba7ruser1 which ndiswrapper you use11:01
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user1using ndiswrapper 1.211:01
Rodbut the day before yesterday i took a daily build and i couldnt get nautilus running (unmet deps)11:01
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zaidhi mudassir11:02
setiteanyoen in here a satanist?11:02
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setitewhoa.. nevermind.. thats a bit off topic11:02
azriel0184setite: you can easily use a whole heap of sudo's, but setting up things, i often use a console11:02
ilba7ruser1 did you compile it from source11:02
setitehi mudassier11:02
user1yes I did11:02
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ilba7ruser1 did you get the right kernel header $uname-r11:02
setiteazriel0184: i suppose.. ive had bad experiences iwht root... like apps that wont run and stuff11:02
michelesometimes I wonder about setite's sanity11:03
setitei just find it easier to use sudo...11:03
setitemichele: i think dont believe in sanity11:03
osfaIt's annoying that you can't run a root app from Run Application menu11:03
setitemichele: i question why you name has one L :)11:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYsetite: yes i'm here whats up?11:03
setitehaha11:03
osfaif you try 'synaptic' it complains needs to be run as root11:03
user1yes I did get the correct kernel headers ( uname -r )11:03
osfaif you try 'sudo synaptic' it doesnt' do anything11:03
michelesetite, because Ls are expensive here11:03
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setiteChurcH_of_FoamY: just checking... i thought the server split because it got quiet11:04
user1... I think11:04
ilba7rcheck it out11:04
user1let me check11:04
ilba7rtype $uname-r in a terminal and ckeck if it is the headers you installed11:04
setitemichele11:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYroflmao the otherday it did >.<11:04
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setitemichele: i only see you active when im talking abotu something nuts11:04
zaidaye gadhay11:05
setiteChurcH_of_FoamY: it did a few hours ago..11:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYnew foamy @ www.illwillpress.com11:05
ilba7ranyone know how to change gtk themes using command line11:05
setitewhere is a really good chatroom to talk abotu random sh**11:05
setiteon this server or any.. should i check efnet?11:06
setitenew foam11:06
setiteyea!!!!11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm #ubuntu-offtopic11:06
setitelets see if FF will play it11:06
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setitenah ubuntu-offtopic has like 10 people in it11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmmm go trolling O_o11:07
setiteChurcH_of_FoamY: i must say the show is getting lacking11:07
setitewhoa that was poor english11:07
setitetried to say is getting bad and is lacking11:07
setitesomeone log on who i can actually help11:07
setitei feel bad11:07
setitei miss the modded xbox channels11:08
setitei was worth something there11:08
setitegod i hate this.. foamys load in liek 2 seconds on my home pc... but like a minute on this wireless11:08
setiteok this room died again...11:09
arpheticAnyone has a ASCII tabel thing??11:09
sn0ngoogle it11:09
sn0nwill take 2 seconds11:09
sn0ni think like http://asciitable.com or something is one11:09
user1ilba7r: synaptic package manager says linux kernel headers is 2.5.999-test-bk-17 but uname -r says 2.6.10-5-38611:09
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sn0narphetic, yeah.. http://asciitable.com11:10
arpheticyesi found it already,11:10
arpheticbut erm11:10
user1anyone else?11:10
nemlahNe1 knows where to find repos with bleeding edge kernels?11:10
arpheticHow do i input those keys -> fdisk ?11:10
setitei want a sacred space!!!11:11
sn0nwhat do you mean ?11:11
arpheticwell11:11
nemlah>kernel 2.6.1311:11
arpheticto get those signs11:11
arphetic;)11:11
setiteaskee11:11
arphetici have to insert Volume name in FDISK11:11
arpheticbut its like chinese11:11
setiteascii askee11:11
sn0nur making no sense11:11
setitedo you say the letters or do you make a word11:11
sn0nhrmm.. no clue ?11:11
arpheticerr?11:12
arpheticu guys talking 2 me?11:12
setitechinese... nah japanese is bette11:12
setiter11:12
setiteok im off to find somewhere that i can talk randomly11:12
setitebut i need to knwo how to open a new server11:12
Ngtype /quit ;)11:13
arpheticwell the name is like  "o o,o ,~a'e11:13
arpheticlike this11:13
arphetic(but then different11:13
setiteno... to open a new seperate server is /server -somethine irc.server.com11:13
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setitebut i cant remember the letter11:13
setiteomg11:14
setitenever type /list on efnet11:14
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setiteim used to mirc which opens a window and does it slowly.. but konversation trys to maul me and my mouse was jumping across the screen.. once a second11:14
setitewow... bad11:14
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Ali`Gglibc-2.3.4 were can i download this?11:16
fluffybunny_I was browsing and discovered I don't have J2RE installed, and its not in the package manager, so I downloaded it and tried to install in manually, but it doesn't work. QUESTION: is j2re in the package manager, and I just missed it somehow?11:16
NgAli`G: why do you want to replace your libc?11:16
Ng(that is to say, you almost certainly don't want to)11:16
Ali`Glol11:16
fluffybunny_i followed the instructions at http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting, but they didn't work...11:17
arpheticThe Volume name would be in ascii: 193 34 248 32 48 44 248 32 44 142 13011:17
michele!tell fluffybunny_ about java11:17
fluffybunny_michele: thanks!11:17
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sn0n!ping11:17
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, sn0n.11:17
sn0nthnx11:17
sn0n:-D11:17
arpheticAnyone has an idea?11:17
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kzmMorning, all!  A long time ago, on a distribution far from here, I used to have several accounts with [KG] DM icons and no password in order to run e.g. a DVD player.  I can't seem to find how to set this up in Ubuntu.  Any ideas?11:19
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binaanybody know why I wouldnt be able to get translucency in KDE 3.4? I have it enabled, just nothing happens.  I have a nVidia GF4 card (but only the default driver installed, no GL)11:20
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Nathanialanybody know how to replace the firefox icon with the newer one?11:21
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Rodwhich icon11:21
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Thunder000what's a good application for viewing pictures ?11:21
NathanialMozilla the browser11:21
RodThunder00 f-spot11:21
Rodyeah but where is the icon Nathanial11:21
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Rodjust right click on the icon and select a new one11:22
NathanialI'm asking if there is a way to get an icon for it that looks like the one for windows11:22
Nathanialthe flame or fox tail11:22
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setitethats a good question...11:25
setitethe linux one is lame11:25
Ngit's not "the linux one"11:26
Ngit's the debian one11:26
Ngbecause mozilla have stupid rules about using their trademarks11:27
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Ngthe official icon isn't included in the package, but you could yoink it from another machine, or probably grab a similar picture from the firefox site11:27
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timtuxHum, ive got an VIA UniChrome gfx card. It wont work in ubuntu :-/11:27
kzmWhat program is used to configure KDM (or KDE in general)?11:27
kzmkdm_config "is not supposed to be run manually, apparently.11:28
setitewhy would anyone want freebsd11:28
setiteisnt the support even worse than linux11:28
wickedpuppysetite, its stable11:28
wickedpuppycheck out the netcraft11:28
binawhere is my 'X config' file? also, does Ubuntu use Xorg ?11:28
Ngsetite: different systems are suitable for different things11:28
wickedpuppyall the best servers run on BSDs11:28
Ngbina: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and yes11:28
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binaNg: thanks11:29
Ngwickedpuppy: some of11:29
setitebesides servers11:29
Ngsetite: different systems are suitable for different things11:29
Ng:)11:29
setitewhy would and end user want it on his home pc11:29
Ngdefine "end user"11:29
Nga grandmother probably wouldn't11:29
Nga techie guy who wants a stable source based unix might well do11:30
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timtuxSomone knows if brreezy gonna have bettter support for VIA gfx cards ?11:30
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wickedpuppysetite, Ng  ... go see here http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html11:30
wickedpuppyif you can find a linux server tell me11:31
Ngwickedpuppy: uptime means nothing11:31
imsickhi11:31
imsicki need help11:31
imsickanyone?11:31
Ngwickedpuppy: any linux system that's been up for several years is guaranteed to be full of exploitable holes ;)11:31
wickedpuppyit is :P11:31
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Ngimsick: ask your question11:31
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wickedpuppythen isn't it amazing why they are still up ?? :P11:31
imsicki just installed ubuntu11:32
imsickwhat is the root password?11:32
setitewhat is netcraft.. alll i see is a rainbow11:32
wickedpuppyno root pass ...11:32
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setitei dont like rainbows11:32
imsicki cant login as root11:32
timtuximsick, no11:32
Ngwickedpuppy: no, I have a laptop here running redhat 6 that hasn't been rebooted in about 18 months, that doesn't make it a good server ;)11:32
timtuximsick, its disablet11:32
timtuximsick, use sudo11:32
Ngimsick: there is no root password11:32
laxisehi theere11:32
setiteoh server thingy11:32
laxisecould I have some questions11:32
laxise?11:32
Jaladayou can use sudo -s if you want a root shell11:32
setiteyou have to set a root password11:32
imsickhow can i login as root11:32
HiThereis AIM down for everybody?11:32
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Nglaxise: yes11:32
setitesudo passwd root11:32
setitei think11:32
laxiseNg: first where to find mplayer package11:33
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fluffybunny_help: i tried to add the hoar-extras repository, (following the HowTo) but it fails to download... what to do?11:33
laxisecan't find it in the repository11:33
Jaladathere's no need to though11:33
timtuximsick, WHY do you gonna login as root? its dumb11:33
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imsickim installing skype11:33
Jaladause sudo11:33
Nglaxise: check the ubuntu wiki for BreakMyUbuntu and AddingRepositories, enable universe and multiverse, then it should be ok11:33
imsickit wont install if not root11:33
setitetimtux: be nice... people have their things11:33
azriel0184laxise: its in the multiverse11:33
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Jaladaimsick, use sudo11:33
laxiseit isn't in universe11:33
outputhi guys, is anyone available to help me setup an xnest environment?11:33
wickedpuppysudo dpkg -i *skype-name*11:33
laxiseah there is multiverse11:33
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setiteshoudl i get skype11:33
setitei feel left out11:34
laxisebut that isn't kept by ubuntu...am I correct?11:34
timtuxsetite, ;)11:34
Nglaxise: multiverse is hosted by ubuntu, it's just unsupported11:34
laxiseI see thanx :))11:34
fluffybunny_help: i tried to add the hoar-extras repository, (following the HowTo) but it fails to download... what to do?11:34
laxisesecond question11:34
laxiseis how to install firefox extesion11:34
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Ngusually you just click on the link in firefox and it'll prompt to install it11:34
maycoI've downloaded and tried the colony 3 live cd on my dell inspiron 6000 laptop, and there are some things that don't work. Where should I report them? Can I get in touch with someone responsible for LaptopMission?11:35
Ngif you have a .xpi file, go File->Open in firefox and browse to it11:35
laxiseafter I click install ... it doesn't install.  When I donwnload it is just packed file...could I unpack it and copy it somewhere?11:35
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imsickcould anyone here help me install skype?11:35
imsicki dont know how11:35
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setitedidnyt you hear what they said11:36
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setitewhat kind of package is it11:36
HiThereis AIM down for everybody?11:36
setitewhats the extension? .DEB?11:36
setiteHiThere: yea11:36
laxiseNg: I did that (file-> browse), however, I still get empty window11:37
laxiseand now extension installed11:37
setiteHiThere: i just checked kopete and it disconnected11:37
HiThereokay thank you11:37
Nglaxise: hmm, that's quite odd11:37
micheleimsick, http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype11:37
Owtputhi guys, are any of you familiar with xnest (and a different wm) in X?11:37
setiteomg.. AIM disconnected... the y2k bug has hit at last!!!11:37
binaare these translucencies sped up if I isntall the Nvidia driver?11:37
fluffybunny_Need help with Adding Repositories: I tried to add the hoary-extras repository (in Synaptic)(following the HowTo) but it fails to download... what to do?11:37
azriel0184why did ubuntuguide.org get taken out of the topic line here? thats a great site11:37
Ngbina: the nvidia drivers can accelerate the Composite X extension, but very little uses it so far and it's quite experimental. if you mean terminal transparencies.... no11:37
Ngazriel0184: no it's not11:38
setiteazriel0184: its frowned upon for some reason11:38
Ngit may seem like it, but it's really not11:38
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clem_yeatsazriel0184: seemingly people disagree about this11:38
setite!ubuntuguide11:38
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned11:38
laxiseNg: I know that is why I ask? :)).  The multiverse works just fine :)11:38
setitesee11:38
binaNg: well i think its the composite extension, for the KDE 3.4 translucency effect?11:38
TidgeSorry 4 off-topic - don't know where else to go: Does anyone know where to get a GMAIL invite?11:38
Nglaxise: well, the only thing I can think of to suggest is to close firefox and run "firefox -ProfileManager" from a terminal, create a new profile and see if that can install any extensions, if it can then your profile is broken, if not then firefox is broken11:38
binaill isntall anyway, then i can play on tux racer again :)11:38
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Ngbina: not sure, don't use KDE11:39
alonsohola11:39
setiteTidge: google it... thats all i did... ill google it again fo royu11:39
binaNg, oh right, k.  Well, ill try, see what happens11:39
fluffybunny_Tidge: you need to ask someone with a Gmail address11:39
azriel0184Ng: i learnt alot about linux and ubuntu from that site. *sigh* oh well11:39
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laxiseNg: good idea :))11:39
arphetichttp://www.rootx.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=7441#744111:39
osfaI quite like ubuntuguide11:39
laxiseperhaps during the update the profile got broken11:39
laxise...11:39
alonsohola laxise11:39
Ngazriel0184: I'd say the wiki and the mailing list and the forums and here are better :)11:39
setitei need a new one11:39
setitefluffybunny_: no oyu dont11:40
laxisealonso: hola11:40
setitegoogling "free g-mail invite" shows many sites11:40
arpheticI wrote the story about my "error" with FDISK and stuff here -> http://www.rootx.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=7441#744111:40
setitewww.bytetest.com for example11:40
drummer87hey, does anyone here play Quake3? I'm not sure how to install it..11:40
fluffybunny_setite: ok, well, someone with a gmail address can also invite :)11:40
azriel0184Ng: there are times i just want to know what to do to install something... i just pile all the instruction into a .sh file and run it and leave it alone for a while11:40
setitehehe ok11:40
alonsoadios11:40
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azriel0184to each his own11:40
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Ngazriel0184: :)11:40
setiteyea bytetest.com is a good place... that have 8654 invites remaining11:40
setiteso anyone who wante the devil mail go get it11:41
setitei read that your gmail can be found on google11:41
setiteso im scared to use it11:41
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kemiksetite:  where did you read that ?11:42
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omp342hi guys11:42
setitekemik: ill try and find it...11:42
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omp342i'm thinking of making the switch from fedora to ubuntu11:42
timtuxomeg, do it11:42
azriel0184setite: i would be interested to see it too11:43
Ngomp342: good call :)11:43
omp342=] 11:43
laxiseNg: can you perform system wide update?  From warty to hoary?11:43
drummer87i guess noone has quake3 then...11:43
azriel0184laxise: "can" and "should" are different words11:44
laxiseazriel0184: I know ... and I said CAN11:44
fluffybunny_setite: i can't find my mail on google... (i use gmail)11:44
azriel0184well, you can11:44
azriel0184just change your sources to hoary instead of warty11:44
laxiseok I supposed that11:44
omp342i'm downloading the amd64 version right now11:44
Nglaxise: yes, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all "warty" occurances with "hoary", then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". It'll need to download about 400-500mb though, so grabbing the CD and upgrading might not be a bad plan ;)11:45
clem_yeatslaxise: you can update every single package... it's possible, but you may as well install hoary then.11:45
omp342unlike fedora, it's not going to take me 20 hours :D11:45
setitelooking.. and for the record.. ubuntuguide is god11:45
setiteits what i like... spoonfed answers11:45
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azriel0184lol setite11:45
setiteno bs... just a whole lotta ish in one page11:45
laxiseNg: great :)) ... I'm used to gentoo so... it is fun with ubutu :)11:45
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DukGalNamuhey, would i break javascript if i removed the libjavaso file from the firefox plugins?11:46
laxiseclem_yeats: yes, but the CD has same size so what is the difference11:46
DukGalNamuor would that only disable java?11:46
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Nglaxise: hehe11:47
setitewhats a good site for tech new11:47
setites11:47
omp342since i'm gonna uninstall fedora so i can install ubuntu, if i delete fedora's installation what will happen to the bootloader fedora installed?11:47
fluffybunny_can anyone help me with adding repositories?11:47
setiteim trying to find this article.. it was on a security news site11:48
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clem_yeatsDukGalNamu: That would only affect the plugin, not the java interpreter11:48
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: so i wouldn't be able to launch java apps, but i could still run java script?11:48
clem_yeatsomp342: Ubuntu will ask you if you want to put grub in your MBR.11:48
azriel0184omp342: simple solution is just to delete all the partitions in the ubuntu installer, and let ubuntu install its boot loader. takes care of everything11:48
clem_yeatsDukGalNamu: well... there is no such thing as java scripts.11:49
clem_yeatsDukGalNamu: well... the interpreter "java" runs apps.11:49
omp342its because im worried deleting the fedora partition would mess up the bootloader and i wont be able to get into xp11:49
micheleclem_yeats, well... there's beanshell :)11:49
clem_yeatshmm...11:49
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azriel0184ohh, your on a dual boot...11:49
omp342yes11:50
azriel0184you can add it after ubuntu installs?11:50
clem_yeatsdukgalnamu: what use do you have of java ?11:50
azriel0184in fact, ubuntu should detect it and add it itself? someone correct me if im wrong11:50
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: it keeps crashing firefox11:50
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: actually, i think it has something to do with my bookmarks....11:51
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu: well this is only the plugin..11:51
NathanialWhen I try to update Ubuntu I get11:51
Nathanial"It is not possible to upgrade all packages.11:51
NathanialThis means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation."11:51
NathanialThe Following Pacakges Are not upgraded:11:51
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu: do you actually run java applications or not ?11:51
Nathanialmozilla-firefox11:51
Nathanialmozilla-firefox-gnome-support11:51
liableomp342: just delete the partition in the installer, install ubuntu, it should dtect windows no problem..11:52
NathanialIs there something I'm supposed to do before update?11:52
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: i actually moved my original config folder for firefox and started a new one and everything was fine, bt when i moved my bookmarks it crashed...11:52
omp342ok11:52
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: i was11:52
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: not anymore11:52
omp342so i should delete the partition in the ubuntu installer and not in partitionmagic?11:52
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu: so you're only using the java plugin in order to run applets11:53
laxisedo NOT do ever linux partitions in partition magic!11:53
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: was11:53
omp342i made my fedora partition in partition magic11:53
omp342and it worked fine11:53
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: until i deleted it a couple of seconds ago11:53
laxiseyou did what? ext2 or ext3?11:53
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu: well... you said the problem only occured when you restored your bookmarks11:53
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clem_yeatsdukGalNamu: check the files permissions.. owners.. etc.11:54
laxiseas I remember it made error in journal11:54
laxisefile11:54
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: yeah, although the problem persisted with yahoo11:54
omp342ext311:54
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: i still crashed when trying to log out of yahoo11:54
omp342i made a 2gb swap partition and a 60gb ext3 partition11:54
omp342and installed fedora11:55
omp342it was fine11:55
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: is it possible i fried my cpu?11:55
setitei cant find the article... but i remember what it said... something about someone found their email over google...11:55
fluffybunny_aha, found it (after some time): if you are worried about security on gmail, take a look at this slashdot article:  http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/470711:55
laxisethe problem was that...it worked ok.  However, if you wanted to resize the partition you get error and you can't do anything with fdisk.  Perhaps they corrected this problem in last version, however, I have tested it with 8.01 and the problem remained11:55
liableazriel0184: check xserver log, see if it gives any clues.11:55
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  no :))11:55
setitefluffybunny_: you dound it?11:55
azriel0184liable: ???11:55
omp342i have 8.01 =/11:55
liableazriel0184: sorry11:55
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: cause it was getting pretty hot...11:55
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laxisethe update: 490MB & 250MB needed ;)11:56
laxisenice11:56
clem_yeatsdukgalnamu : if your CPU had fried you wouldn't even be able to start your machine anymore.11:56
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laxiseomp342: so just pray :)11:56
omp342so i should just format the fedora partition in ubuntu installation11:56
omp342and install ubuntu11:56
omp342and evertyhing will be fine?11:56
omp342everything*11:57
clem_yeatsomp342: yes11:57
arpheticHow do I close the xserver?11:57
laxiseI have got errors from fdisk, however, I think if it runs correctly (fdisk) then you should be just fine11:57
setiteno thats not it11:57
liableomp342: yeah, should work no problems.11:57
omp342ok11:57
omp342would it be possible to read files from my windows (ntfs) partition in ubuntu?11:58
laxiseread yes11:58
clem_yeatsomp342: yes, definitely11:58
omp342okay11:58
laxisethere could be problems if you have special chars outside English language11:58
setiteomp342: of course11:59
setite!ntfs11:59
setiteubotu dont pm me11:59
ubotusetite: Bugger all, i dunno11:59
laxiseyou would have to specify the char set you want it to mount with11:59
laxiseotherwise everything should be just fine11:59
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laxisereading is safe11:59
setite!automaticallymountntfspartitions11:59
ubotuNot a clue, setite11:59
setiteread your links ubotu11:59
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binahi, how to i reconfigure X :)12:00
binadpkg something12:00
binanot sure what the package is called12:00
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: not true, there could be minor errors in the cpu taht are caused by overheating that only show up every millionth calculation...12:00
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laxisethere is even a project, dont' remember the name now, but it uses windows ntfs.dll library to make it totally writable & readable in linux but it is not trivial to do so12:00
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: i forget what it is called, but bits get lost in the silicon or jump wires and screw things up12:00
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: the hotter the cpu the more likely it is of happening, and once it happens.... its gone12:01
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  well I wouldn't be too worried about that.12:02
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setiteheres a weird thing12:02
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  does your system freeze ?12:03
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: no just the browser12:03
setitei remember a program that made you actually read the agreement at the beginning of the installer... it counted how long you could see each line12:03
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omp342btw, is it easy to get wine running on ubuntu?12:03
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: and i tired opera also, it freezes too12:03
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Angel-SLomp342: yes12:03
Angel-SLapt-get it12:03
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  when firefox crashes, does the window simply disappears ?12:03
michele!tell laxise about captive12:03
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: nope, it just freezes and thinks its loading something12:03
omp342okay, cause counter-strike: source is an important part of my life :D12:04
setitecan you believe gmail wont let my use the password i want12:04
Angel-SL!tell omp342 about wine12:04
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  does the display in the window refreshes ?12:04
catfoxooh, i see breezy has a boot splash :) anyone have a screenshot?12:04
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: no12:04
setitebecause its common.. the nerve... the NOIVE!12:04
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: when i roll it up and bring it back down it is see through12:04
fluffybunny_lol12:04
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laxisemichele: thx12:04
omp342ok, i'm off to sleep. once i wake up i can start installing ubuntu :D12:05
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  see, if your CPU fried the way you said, this would alter calculation regardless of the process... and things would go weird a bit everywhere rather than simply for firefox.12:05
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laxisecouldn't it was longer time I played with it12:05
kemiksetite: well, that's just common security praxis12:05
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: opera also experiences this problem12:05
kemiksetite: password "hello" wouldnt be a great choice ;)12:05
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: you know what?12:05
hussamwhat's the latest news on breezy? is it stablizing?12:05
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu:  it must be something to do with something they share then.12:05
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: i sould probably go for a ful system update....12:06
clem_yeatsdukGalNamu: is Opera using the java plugin as well ?12:06
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: not possible cause i just deleted the plugin...12:06
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setite'http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/12:06
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arpheticwww.google-watch.com12:07
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: i will go for full system update...12:07
kemiktssk12:07
Frafrahi all12:07
arpheticwww.google-watch-watch.com12:07
arphetic:/12:07
Angel-SL!tell setite about spam12:07
setitekemik: no app has ever done that... they will tell me its no good... but thats all12:07
kemiksetite:  i find gmail much better than the other web.mail solutiosn (yahoo, hotmail)12:07
Angel-SL:/12:07
setitehey im just trying to show the things i read12:07
Frafraif I upgrade from hoary to breezy, X will works or I must edit something? exist a guide?12:07
kemiksetite:  try setting your ubuntu pass to "hello" ?12:07
kemiksetite: oh, it was an actual url :)12:07
setitei use the several accounts that come with my ISP... free email is not necessary for me12:08
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setiteyea its a real site12:08
kemiki've got 4 emails that i use... 2webmails and 2 "real" accounts12:08
DukGalNamuclem_yeats: should i have alot of extra space after updateing a system??12:08
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DukGalNamuclem_yeats: ohh, NM, i thought it was mb, it was kb12:09
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fluffybunny_yeah, i have a hotmail spam account for surfing when you are obliged to register or enter you email at some sites12:10
Heimdallwill there be the 2.6 version of wxwidgets on packages for ubuntu ?12:10
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setiteyay i have two gmails that ill never use12:11
fluffybunny_anyone know why I can't download the hoary-extras repository?12:11
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Seveasyes12:11
Seveasbut not for Hoary12:11
Seveassetite, want another 10? :)12:11
Seveasfluffybunny_, what's the error?12:11
fluffybunny_Failed to download12:11
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fluffybunny_it downloaded all the rest12:11
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Seveastry another mirror :)12:12
fluffybunny_address?12:12
fluffybunny_:)12:12
fluffybunny_please (sorry, bad manners)12:12
kemiksetite:  hmm, that page brings up some serious stuff12:12
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SeveasThey can be found at backports/ubuntuforums.org12:12
fluffybunny_Seveas: thanks12:12
setiteyea12:13
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setitewhoa email is not a protected communication anymore?12:13
Seveasnever was12:13
FLeiXiuSsetite: Take your rant elsewhere please12:13
Seveasunless you gpg-encrypt all :)12:13
setiterant eh... thats an odd interpretation...12:14
Seveasquite (unless I missed a bit)12:14
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DukGalNamu!gdb12:14
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, DukGalNamu12:14
DukGalNamu...12:14
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DukGalNamuwhat is gdb?12:15
Seveasit's a debugger12:15
guillemI've some trouble with my DVD-RAM, it is slower than I expected12:15
DukGalNamuahh12:15
guillemAnd thant it should be12:15
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SeveasIf you don't know how to use it and have no imminent need to: don't try it12:15
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Seveasit's horrible to use12:15
setitewhy doesnt this room kick inactive people12:15
Seveasguillem, dma turned on?12:15
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DukGalNamudvd-ram?12:15
guillemSeveas, how do I turn it on?12:15
Seveashdparm -d1 /dev/YOUR_DRIVE12:16
Ng!dma12:16
guillemDukGalNamu, a very nice DVD type12:16
guillemNg ????12:16
eliphas_i don't speak much but i read a lot12:16
Ngguillem: type what I just did, a bot will msg you some details12:16
NgI thought it was going to say it here, but obviously not ;)12:16
Seveas!tell guillem about dma12:16
guillem!dma12:16
Ngalthough I do dislike such bots because they always have terrible wording ;)12:16
Ng"dma is like totally" for example12:16
Seveashehe12:17
kemiksetite:  why should it kick inactive ppl ?? what would be the use?12:17
Ngthat looks like a 12 year old wrote it ;(12:17
DukGalNamu12yr old vally girl....12:17
guillemNg, I still don't get it. sorry. I don't understand the ! thing at all...12:17
Seveasguillem, ubotu just told you something about dma12:17
DukGalNamuguillem: it is something bots look for12:17
Seveasthat's what the ! thing causes12:18
setitekemik: im used to seeing it... its better for the server... i mean like people who leave their pc on for days12:18
DukGalNamuguillem: when they see that they respond12:18
guillemSeveas, can I have the drive mounted or do I have to umount, hdparm and mount again?12:18
Seveassetite, that's nonsense...12:18
guillembash: !dma: event not found12:18
Seveasguillem, hehe, !dma is for in this channel12:18
setitehey i tried to do a /list and couldnt because the server is overloaded12:18
Seveashdparm -d1 /dev/YOUR_DRIV is for in bash12:19
DukGalNamuyeah!!! xine update12:19
Seveasand it can be done while mounted12:19
guillemSeveas, HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted12:19
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guillem\!dma12:20
Seveasguillem, sudo hdparm12:20
Seveasit needs root privileges12:20
guillemSeveas,  I did sudo...12:20
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DukGalNamu,hooray12:20
DukGalNamuohh'12:20
DukGalNamu!hooray12:21
ubotuDukGalNamu: Are you on ritalin?12:21
kirky2\o/12:21
DukGalNamuhehe12:21
DukGalNamui need to change it12:21
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guillemNg, at last I understood the ! thing, thanks12:22
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Ngguillem: sorry, it's not very clear/simple ;)12:23
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guillemSeveas, my drive refuses changing the DMA12:23
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setiteso this skype is free calling?12:25
rob^yep12:25
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DukGalNamu,hooray12:26
seliniumsetite: pc to pc yes12:26
kirky2\o/12:26
setiteno sh**?  i thought that sutff died12:26
DukGalNamuyeah12:26
setiteoh.. pc to pc12:26
setiteok12:26
setitei miss that pc to phone thing12:26
setiteit was prank call heaven12:26
DukGalNamu,lick setite12:26
kirky2ACTION licks setite12:26
seliniumsetite: you can pay for pc to phone, at a much reduced rate. From british costs anyway12:26
setiteman that was a while ago12:26
DukGalNamu...12:26
setiteyea well i was young... it was free.. and they didnt know it was me12:27
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setitei tortured my evil principal12:27
DukGalNamu,slap setite12:27
setitedont lick me.. wtf12:27
kirky2ACTION slaps setite12:27
DukGalNamuthere12:27
DukGalNamumuhahahahaha12:27
DukGalNamuits not working actually12:27
rob^kirky2, stop doing that it looks ugly12:28
redguysomething's wrong with that bot12:28
DukGalNamuthere should be more12:28
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seliniumsetite: you can also pay for an incoming telephone number. Allowing you to have the same telephone number, no matter where you are in the world.12:28
DukGalNamu,pee setite12:28
kirky2ACTION walks up behind setite12:28
guillemSeveas, btw, hdparm -i tells me the drive is using udma2, is that enough?12:28
setiteselinium: yea i know abotu all that stuff... but free is free12:28
DukGalNamusee12:28
setite.kick DukGalNamu12:28
seliniumsetite: :)12:28
setitelame bot12:28
DukGalNamulol12:28
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DukGalNamu,kirk12:29
kirky2KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!12:29
Ngguillem: should be12:29
DukGalNamu,210112:29
kirky2sombody set up us the bomb12:29
DukGalNamu:P12:29
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DukGalNamu,bye12:30
kirky2DukGalNamu: may God be with you!12:30
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fluffybunny_need some help with the ubuntu gui file browser - how can I view a folder tree, like in windows, when browsing my files12:31
icewtfluffybunny_, view -> side pane, select "tree" from the list12:32
setiteoh there is audacity for linux?12:32
setitenice12:32
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setitei love audacity.. great free app for phone ringtones12:32
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fluffybunny_icewt: thanks!12:33
setitethats it... i need thunderbird... these email apps stink12:33
kemiksetite:  evolution ?12:33
Ngsetite: audacity for linux is a multi-track sequencer, nothing to do with ringtones ;)12:33
Nghttp://audacity.sourceforge.net/12:34
Ngehh, not a sequencer, a sound editor12:34
guillemNg, it is really extrange... the performance depends heavily on the filesystem type. If I use udf and I mount it with sync,noatime, I get a soo-poor performance of 65Kb/s meanwhile if I use reiserfs, with sync,nolog,noatime I get a performance of 1.9Mb/s12:36
setiteNg: au contrair frerer.. it is the perfect app for shrinking a audio clip... making it mono and the right freq for a ringtone12:37
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Ngsetite: bah, you kids and your mp3 ringtones ;)12:37
setitekemik: ill give evolution one last look... but i recall not liking it.. and im not liking contact much either...12:37
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Sonderbladewhy does the zope package want to install python2.2 and zope2.7 wants python2.3 but i want zope with python2.412:38
setiteNg: .wav but yea... i like them because it allows my tones to be customized.. but more than that i make them loud enough that i can hear them12:38
azriel0184setite: have you tried outlook or telnet?12:38
azriel0184;)12:38
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guillemNg, I had seen that weirdness with my usb-stick (which I have formatted as reiserfs for that reason)- I thought it was something related to my old laptop... but now I see that it is something more general :-((12:39
setiteazriel0184: you really ARE the devil.. shame on you12:39
azriel0184heh, they are almost as bad as each other...12:39
Ngguillem: pretty strange. it might be worth investigating the IDE chipset you have, maybe you're using a generic kernel IDE driver and there could be a more suitable one. laptops tend to be a bit weird ;)12:39
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teleyinexwhy i cant install vim-python in hoary?12:40
antoine_Hi All ^^12:40
guillemNg, is there any reason that reiserfs behaves better? junksize of reads/writes or something like that?12:40
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antoine_Wine CVS version return me "Could not load wineserver" is that for you ?12:40
Raskallhow can I find out which drivers ubuntu use for hardware and the source for them? A friend has an Atmel (actually 3com) wifi pcmcia card that works plug and play in breezy with kernel 2.6.12. But he is a Fedora (core 4) user and I am unable to find drivers that will compile on fc412:40
Ngguillem: reiser is a pretty good fs12:40
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setitesomeone who is against ubuntuguide let me know why...12:41
guillemNg, I've seen that mounting as udf but without sync, behaves better: umounting time at async is much lower than copy time for the sync case12:41
rob^setite, it is a bunch of instructions without explinations12:41
volvoguyhey all. i just booted up my Toshiba laptop with the colony 3 live cd to see what works without the hard drive issues in the picture. surprisingly my wireless stuff all works, x starts up and i can move the cursor with the trackpad, and i hear the login chime. unfortunately except for the cursor, the screen is black and i can't switch to another console. i thought i'd seen this issue somewhere but i can't find anything now. any12:41
volvoguybody have any hints?12:41
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waxheadhey everyone12:41
setiteyea whats wrong with that...12:41
rob^setite, all of it unofficial, untested12:41
Ngguillem: I'm not sure about udf, I've only used it on DVDs and the drive is the limiting factor there ;)12:42
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setiteok... unofficial...12:42
setiteany reports of breakage?12:42
rob^many12:42
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zkimelany Galeon users here?12:42
rob^a fully tested, open and official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy12:42
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setitegood12:43
setitebecause the ubuntu wiki has broken my ubuntu more than the ubuntuguide12:43
rob^yes12:43
setitetrying to get my mouse working broke my ubuntu beyond repair12:43
rob^the new one is based of ubuntuguide12:43
rob^but it will be heaps better12:44
setitewell all i can think to make it better would be updating... and adding more to it12:44
setiteit needs to be a full guide12:44
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rob^setite, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects12:45
setitesure.....12:45
guillemNg, this is out of filesystem performance issues, this is something related to how data is transferred... I've just checked that udf behaves simmilar to reiserfs when udf is mounted async.12:45
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guillemNg, I will have to check it with my usbstick...12:46
Ngguillem: well async delays writes, so the write speed you are being told is probably not true ;)12:46
Ngand usbsticks are generally best mounted sync12:46
Ngso you can unplug them at any time and not have to care about writeback cache12:46
guillemNg, I'm computing the time of umounting the drive after a large file copied12:46
setitehey how do i run tuxracer without restarting12:46
guillemNg, I know that issue... but I can live with it12:47
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rob^setite, open a terminal, type "tuxracer"12:47
guillemNg, sudo mount -t udf -o noatime /dev/hda/ /media/dvdram/12:47
guillemNg, time cp LargeFile /media/dvdram/tmp/.; sudo time umount /media/dvdram/12:47
setiteok... how do i get it to run in a window12:47
setiteit ran fullscreen.. with black all over12:48
rob^setite, there might be an option within the program, do you have 3d drivers installed for your graphics card?12:48
guillemNg this gives about 18sec vs. 17sec at sync reiserfs... I'm going to check reiserfs async...12:48
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michelerob^, why is the faq guide referring to vim as a text editor?12:49
setiteyes i do12:49
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rob^michele, don't use it yet, its still just a preview12:50
setitemichele: just use nano....12:50
setiteor gedit...12:50
setitevim is evil12:50
michelesetite, I know what to use. Just asking12:50
Ngsetite: !12:50
Ngvim > *12:50
rob^it will be gedit for ubuntu12:50
guillemNg, reiserfs behaves simmilarly mounted sync or async...12:50
rojheya kids...12:50
asparagusI have installed Mac OSX after install ubuntu on my powerbook and now it keeps booting to OSX...whad do i need to modify to be able to choose what OS to use12:50
Ngguillem: in theory I would expect sync/async to end up taking about the same for the operation you are testing12:50
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guillemNg, Thats true! that is what I'm investigating...12:51
guillemNg, I recall my old RH7.3 box working OK with my usbstick with other filesystem rather than reiserfs (ext2)12:51
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guillemNg, I thought it was a hardware problem but now I see that it is something related to ubuntu. Maybe the kernel, ...12:52
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roji have just finished mucking around with the live cd i got in the mail today... and im ready to install on my pc... i've got a spare 20gig hd so im gunna go onto that... can anyone tell me what the likelyhood of killing my winxp install with installing ubuntu?!?12:52
Ngguillem: bizarre. might be worth filing a bug or talking to some ubuntu developers12:52
rob^roj, you have the power12:52
rojsweet... :)12:52
guillemNg, how can I do that?12:53
rob^roj, just don't format the ntfs drive and all will be good12:53
volvoguyasparagus, i haven't tried this on my mac yet, but i assume the x86 method would work. just boot up the install disk and go through to the bootloader stage (without modifying your disks of course).12:53
Ngguillem: to file a bug go to bugzilla.ubuntu.com, to talk to developers I think there's a #ubuntu-devel, if not there's the ubuntu-devel mailing list12:53
rojrob^ : nice... any other little tips on the install?!?12:53
guillemNg, I really want to see this solved... Thanks for your help and support.12:53
rob^!dualboot12:53
ubotuI guess dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo12:53
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rob^roj, check out what ubotu said12:54
rojcool :)12:54
Ngguillem: no probs, good luck :)12:54
rob^roj, if you already have the free unpartitioned space for ubuntu you should find it easy enough12:55
roji wanna put it on a sep 20gig...12:55
volvoguyi'll check back with my issue later when i'm not falling asleep at my keyboard. later all.12:55
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rojahh yea, i get whatcha mean...12:56
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rojcheers for that rob... fingers crossed ill be back here shortly on the light side of the force...12:57
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asparagusI have installed Mac OSX after install ubuntu on my powerbook and now it keeps booting to OSX...whad do i need to modify to be able to choose what OS to use01:00
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kemik!grub01:01
ubotusomebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:01
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kemikdont know if the same applies to osx ;)01:01
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micheleasparagus, change your startup volume from system preferences01:03
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asparagusmichele, in osx?01:03
micheleasparagus, set it to your ubuntu volume and you'll see the yaboot boot screen01:03
micheleasparagus, yes01:03
asparagusmichele, i dont think i can see that startup volume from osx01:04
micheleasparagus, or you could boot your system with the option key pressed and it will ask you01:04
micheleasparagus, try with the option key. if that work, you'll see that from osx too01:04
asparagusmichele, i want the system to default on yaboot01:04
asparagusjust press "o" at startup?01:04
michelego and verify then01:05
micheleoption01:05
michelealt01:05
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michelepress 'option', power on the mac and keep the key pressed until a blue screen with buttons appears01:05
Heimdallis this possible to change the font size in emacs ?01:07
Heimdallmine is too big01:07
kameronso.. i guess i'll ask this question again. i installed the AMD64 version of 5.04, and installed the bootloader at the MBR of the first drive, with the os on the primary slave, windows is at primary master. when it boots, i get a grub prompt, and all them commands i can type in don't do jack. i can't boot to an os. since, i have reinstalled the windows bootloader. can i now fix the grub bootloader, by installing it again, or can i put l01:07
asparagusmichele, i only get one button..the partition with osx01:08
rob^Heimdall, "killall emacs" then "vim"01:08
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Heimdallraaah rob^01:09
Heimdallthis is not a solution :)01:09
micheleasparagus, I guess you don't have yaboot installed, then01:09
rob^Heimdall, works for me :P01:09
Heimdallhaha :)01:09
michele!start an editor war01:09
ubotukwrite is better than emacs01:09
Heimdallyeah great, glad for you  ;-)01:09
asparagushmm i had it when i i had ubuntu01:09
painesHeimdall, you can modifey .Xressources01:09
painesHeimdall, which would result in diffrent fots in emacs01:09
Heimdallpaines, .Xressources ?01:10
asparagusmichele, is it not a screen that asked me to choose if i wanted to boot from drive or cd01:10
Heimdallwhere is it01:10
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painesHeimdall, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Euro-Char-Support.html step 5+601:10
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Heimdallpaines, euro support ????01:12
painesHeimdall, step 601:12
Heimdallyeah01:12
owtputhi guys, have any of you compiled (via jhbuilder) gnome 2.12?01:13
Heimdallset face font01:13
Heimdalldo I have to type this in the minibuffer ?01:13
painesHeimdall, no in them ~/.emacs file01:13
paines-m01:13
owtput+muted01:13
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miketechHi01:14
clem_yeatshi01:15
miketechis xinerama compiled in xorg?01:15
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clem_yeatsit's a separate product miketech I think01:15
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miketechhm?01:15
miketechi have to compile it separately?01:16
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clem_yeatsI think so yes01:16
miketechohh01:16
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miketechthis could be the reason *g*01:16
miketechsince 5 days i try to get xorg working with 2 screens01:16
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clem_yeatsI'm not sure..01:16
clem_yeatsI'm not sure at all actually01:16
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miketech:) oki01:17
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miketechi will try it again01:18
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Heimdallthx paines it works01:20
painesHeimdall, nice.NP01:20
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hansi_xphello01:22
clem_yeatshello01:22
hansi_xpi need help, i'm trying to install java in linux and i installed a bin file, what is that?01:22
clem_yeatsbinary file01:23
clem_yeatscopy it in /opt01:23
michelemiketech, xinerama is in xorg01:23
hansi_xpsorry, i mean i can't install it01:23
clem_yeatsgo in /opt01:23
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michelemikelds, I'm using it right now01:23
thoreauputic!java01:23
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:23
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clem_yeatshansi_xp : just run the file : ./myfile.bin01:23
kameronso.. i guess i'll ask this question again. i installed the AMD64 version of 5.04, and installed the bootloader at the MBR of the first drive, with the os on the primary slave, windows is at primary master. when it boots, i get a grub prompt, and all them commands i can type in don't do jack. i can't boot to an os. since, i have reinstalled the windows bootloader. can i now fix the grub bootloader, by installing it again, or can i put l01:23
michelemiketech, my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/33934201:24
clem_yeatshansi_xp : eventually set the permissions for execution.. chmod a+x myfile.bin01:24
hansi_xpi tried to run the file double click on it, or type in bash but it says permision denied01:24
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clem_yeatschange the permission then : chmod a+x file.bin01:24
nightswimset the executable bit01:24
michelehansi_xp, there's a java howto in the wiki01:25
michele!java01:25
ubotufrom memory, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:25
clem_yeatsthen run it from the shell.01:25
thoreauputicclem_yeats: he wants too install java - ubotu's link will tell him how01:25
micheledon't install that bin01:25
hansi_xpokay thanks dudes, i'll go read a bit.01:25
clem_yeatswell, if I can help him here why shouldn't I ?01:25
clem_yeatsone can always read docs...01:26
thoreauputicclem_yeats: becuse installing java is trivially eay once you read that link01:26
thoreauputic*easy01:26
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clem_yeatshmm I'm not quite sure.01:27
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clem_yeatsthis affects your firefox plugin.01:28
duality_hi! I want to play my mp3s with xmms. So I've installed xmms and also mikmod (cause I have nVidia card), first following instructions at ubuntuguide.org and then at ubuntu's wiki FAQ. But when I run an mp3 with xmms (or some other player), it becomes unresponsive...01:28
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duality_but it used to work before (with some other player)01:28
wickedpuppy!xmms-mp301:28
ubotuwickedpuppy: I don't know01:28
wickedpuppy!mp301:28
ubotuI heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:28
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thoreauputicduality set the output plugin in xmms to easound01:29
duality_I did that already01:29
thoreauputic*esound01:29
Trauerweideis here an German Channel too ?01:29
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duality_when I installed the multimedia codecs it was a problem with a few01:29
chris__Trauerweide, #ubuntu-de01:29
duality_thoreauputic: how do I do that?01:29
thoreauputicTrauerweide:  #ubuntu-de01:30
Trauerweidethx !01:30
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thoreauputicduality_: options - preferences -01:30
duality_ok, got it01:30
duality_gonna try it now01:30
thoreauputick01:31
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duality_yey, it works! :)01:31
thoreauputic:)01:31
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duality_why did I have to change it to this?01:31
thoreauputicgnome uses esd to channel the sound to your sound device01:32
thoreauputicie. esound01:32
srijiththoreauputic: have u used mp3blaster urself?01:32
duality_and is it legal for xmms to have suuuch a similar interface as winamp?01:32
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thoreauputicsrijith: yes a bit - I prefer cplay :)01:32
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wickedpuppyduality_, why not ? the interface isn't copyrighted01:33
thoreauputicduality_: yes - xmms has been around for years and no-one has sued ;-)01:33
duality_ok, cool :)01:33
wickedpuppyif they call it linamp ... they might be in trouble though01:33
thoreauputicsrijith: problems?01:33
clem_yeatsthere was a "linamp" wasn't there ?01:33
wickedpuppythere was ?01:34
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thoreauputic:)01:34
PAK_013i need some info on instaling ubuntu on ibook G3 tangerine... if somebody can help me... private please... thanks01:35
iiiearsHello!01:35
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thoreauputicbonjour!01:35
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srijiththoreauputic: how do I get mp3blaster to play files one after the other. I have added them to the playlist but the damn thing stops after each song and I need to tell it to play the next01:36
iiiearsthoreauputic - reading that Microsoft's Genuine Advantage app is tuned to look for virtual machines and not patch/upgrade them.01:36
thoreauputicsrijith: yeah I gave up on mp3blaster for that very reason - couldn't be bothered learning the silly interface01:36
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srijiththoreauputic: not that cplay's interface is that great ;)01:37
thoreauputicsrijith: so.. I don't know really01:37
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thoreauputicsrijith: heheh - at least it works01:37
rob^iiiears, its not too sucessful apparently01:37
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thoreauputicsrijith: type  "h" for help!01:37
hussamanybody here on breezy? I have a question01:37
srijiththoreauputic: how do I get the playlist view in cplay, for instance?01:38
srijiththoreauputic: will do that :)01:38
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thoreauputicsrijith: I do cplay @ /path/to/music01:38
iiiearsrob^ - web fable or truth also saw a somone claiming to be able to fetch updates for his Wine installation. - lol01:38
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rob^iiiears, I'm sure I read something on /. the other day01:39
BollocksMacenzieAnyone know how the hotplug system works for PCMCIA...01:39
wickedpuppyBollocksMacenzie, my laptop can read my wireless card fine ... yours got problem ?01:40
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srijiththoreauputic: thanks for the hand holding! appreciate it..01:40
thoreauputicsrijith: no problem at all :)01:40
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MAPDhi01:41
BollocksMacenziewickedpuppy: No it's not that, I just wanted to customise the script so it changes the firewall, network monitor and turns off the eth when the wi-fi card is inserted!01:41
thoreauputicsrijith: BTW I meant type "h" after you open cplay - the -h flag tells you almost nothing01:41
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MAPDi have a few questions please01:41
srijiththoreauputic: yup, got that..01:41
azriel0184does ubuntu have software raid support?01:41
clem_yeatsgo on MAPD01:42
MAPDfirst when i installed linux it didnt ask to make a password for root user is that normal?01:42
clem_yeatsyes MAPD, there is no root user in Ubuntu01:42
MAPDhum01:42
thoreauputicsrijith: I wish I could work mp2blaster out properly - it seems quite powerful but I just found it frustrating (laziness i guess)01:42
clem_yeatsMAPD : instead, you as a user can use sudo to do sysadmin stuff.01:42
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MAPDbut i opened thre console01:42
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MAPDas root01:43
thoreauputic*mp3blaster01:43
MAPDand i changed root password01:43
MAPDdid i act wrong?01:43
wickedpuppyno01:43
wickedpuppyyou did nothing wrong01:43
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clem_yeatsMAPD: no it doesn't really matter.01:43
MAPDoki01:43
MAPDthank you01:43
clem_yeatsMAPD: no problem01:43
MAPDmy other question is01:43
wickedpuppybut use sudo for admin stuff :P instead of root shell01:43
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MAPDi have download limits and i cant do updates normally as you do01:44
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MAPDso i need to change synaptics and apt-get mirrors01:44
MAPDhow do i do that?01:44
hansi_xpthanks clem_yeats. that chmod a+x myfile.bin worked good. where can i learn that sought of stuff01:44
thoreauputic!repos01:44
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:44
clem_yeatsMAPD: http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories01:45
BollocksMacenzieDoes anyone know what hotplug file would be called when my Ra2500 based wi-fi card is inserted?01:45
thoreauputic!synaptic01:45
ubotusynaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:45
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clem_yeatshansi_xp: what sort of stuff ?01:45
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clem_yeatshansi_xp: unix commands ?01:45
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hansi_xpgeneral linux how to stuff. i don't know jack.01:45
hansi_xplike what makes something an executable01:45
clem_yeatshansi_xp: oh I love that game... anyway. Hum.. well.. buy a book about Unix.01:46
wickedpuppyhansi_xp, get a book from your local lib ?01:46
wickedpuppythat would be a start01:46
MAPDcan i use a portuguese mirror for all?01:46
roji've just installed 5.04 with lilo and on reboot, it just went straight to winxp without any lilo interaction... any ideas as to what I have done wrong or missed?!?01:46
thoreauputichansi_xp: you can start at http://tuxfiles.org01:46
hansi_xpi got a Sams teach yourself linux book, it sucks01:46
mwesthansi_xp: also check http://www.tldp.org/ and http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/01:46
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wickedpuppyhansi_xp, clearly there are many books out there01:46
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fluffybunny_also, many linux books (eg linux for dummies) on emule01:46
hansi_xpi like linux though01:47
thoreauputichansi_xp: tuxfiles is pretty newb friendly- give it a look01:47
MAPDclem_yeats,  can i use a portuguese mirror for all?01:47
mwesthansi_xp: otherwise install something like "xman" and peruse all the man pages :-)01:47
hansi_xpthanks dudes01:47
clem_yeatshansi_xp : otherwise just look at google for "linux commands" or "unix commands".01:47
wickedpuppy!mirrors01:47
ubotuwickedpuppy: I don't know, could you explain it?01:47
wickedpuppyhmms ...01:47
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clem_yeatsnwest: :)01:47
wickedpuppyMAPD, i would say yes...but i don't know how to change mirrors01:47
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MAPDoh01:47
MAPDi have problems of downloads01:48
wickedpuppyoh hmms .. what errors?01:48
MAPDim going to join the portuguese network and ask to the community01:48
dabaryou guys know how to set up  a firewall to be totally open? i dont want it to do anythinge except allow ip sharing01:48
thoreauputicMAPD: usually the country code is in the url before "archive" - like au.archive or pt.archive01:48
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vainasalut01:48
clem_yeatsdabar: just get rid of the firewall altogether then :)01:48
dabarsalut!01:48
clem_yeatssalut01:49
dabarI need it I think for IC sharing.01:49
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clem_yeatsIC ???01:49
dabarIll try removing it I guess, see if IC sharing works then01:49
duality_if I want to run windows programs on linux, should I go for win4lin?01:49
dabarInternet connction01:49
wickedpuppywhat is IC ?01:49
clem_yeatsoh, no you don't01:49
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dabar!windows01:49
ubotuwindows is, like, Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative01:49
MAPDoops01:49
MAPDclosed by mistake01:49
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clem_yeatsduality_ : try wine first.01:50
duality_hmmm... so which should I choose?01:50
dabarMAPD: you cant copme here more than once!...you were here already...01:50
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wickedpuppyduality_, wine is free01:50
duality_what's it for?01:50
dabarheh01:50
dabardued...windows emulating.01:50
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MAPDyes i know01:50
clem_yeatsdabar: you don't need the firewall for "IC"01:50
wickedpuppyi thought thats what you asked for duality_01:50
zAo^wine is not an emulator... :D01:50
dabarobviously...to run windows programsw...you asked for that...01:50
MAPDbut i closed by mistake01:50
dabarreally?01:50
duality_yeah, I know... but I guess that they are for different things01:50
dabarIl try now and tell you.01:51
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wickedpuppy? diferent things?01:51
duality_like crossover Office01:51
dabarduality_: good.01:51
dabaryou passed the test/.01:51
dabarbah01:51
duality_probably isn't for all programs01:51
decafwine tries to be an emulator01:51
clem_yeatsdabar: you need to set the network with a gateway.01:51
wickedpuppyduality_, then pls tell us what program you want to emulate ? so we can suggest one for you ?01:51
duality_but when I read the ubuntuguide.org it said to try win4lin01:51
dabarIll tell you now.01:51
duality_all sorts of programs01:51
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wickedpuppyall sort ... get windows01:51
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wickedpuppyi find it easier01:51
duality_I have windows01:52
duality_but I'm a linux noob and I want to sometimes run a windows program from within linux01:52
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thoreauputicduality_: try to run native linux apps - it's better01:52
dabarduality_: try it.01:52
duality_is it possible to run games to?01:52
wickedpuppyduality_, for games try cedega01:52
fluffybunny_how do I turn on direct rendering01:52
dabarin the park, yes.01:52
thoreauputicduality_: cedega for games (windows games)01:53
dabarI like playing games in the park.01:53
arpheticMMM -> My screen is really shocky... ??01:53
dabarIt is so much fun..01:53
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fluffybunny_!direct rendering01:53
ubotuI don't know, fluffybunny_01:53
fluffybunny_:(01:53
clem_yeatsfluffybunny: you mean DRI ?01:54
clem_yeats!dri01:54
ubotuclem_yeats: Are you on ritalin?01:54
clem_yeatslol01:54
fluffybunny_clem_yeats: yes01:54
dabarclem_yeats: in fact, you need the IP masquerading thing for an IC sharing.01:54
fluffybunny_!dri01:54
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MAPDuuuuuuuuu01:55
dabargod my wrist is funked up.01:55
clem_yeatsdabar: depends on your conf.01:55
dabarclem_yeats: how so?01:55
clem_yeatsfluffybunny: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:55
arphetic<- how do I shut down Xserver thingie to update drivers?01:55
clem_yeatsfluffybunny: load glx01:55
clem_yeatsfluffybunny: load dri01:55
thoreauputicarphetic:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:55
clem_yeatsdabar: did you set the gateway ?01:55
arpheticthoreauputic: do i have to do that while in Xserver or while in terminal?01:56
clem_yeatsdabar: can your computers ping each others ?01:56
dabarwhat gateway?01:56
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dabarya01:56
dabarnt get online tho. the other one..01:56
azriel0184does ubuntu have software raid support?01:56
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decafazriel0184: yes01:56
clem_yeatsdabar: what's the IP of the one connected to the net ?01:56
thoreauputicarphetic: doesn't matter - but be aware it will kill the display immediately01:56
MAPDhow can i do some changes on the hello screen?01:56
arpheticWill i get in terminal then thoreauputic  ?01:57
wickedpuppyhello screen ?01:57
wickedpuppyarphetic, yes01:57
fluffybunny_clem_yeats: its already there01:57
arphetick01:57
thoreauputicarphetic: you will get a tty - tty1 : black full screen01:57
arpheticsudo /etc/init.d/gdm start01:57
arpheticto get in again?01:57
azriel0184!raid01:57
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto01:57
clem_yeatsfluffybunny: hmm... there's a command to see if it works properly.. but that's all I know about it. I have dri deactivated on my machine.01:57
fluffybunny_clem_yeats: when I glxinfo, it tells me direct rendering: no01:57
thoreauputicarphetic: or "restart" yes01:58
clem_yeatsI have to go..01:58
clem_yeatsbe back soon01:58
fluffybunny_clem_yeats: thanks01:58
dabarinternaly, or externally? internally if you are looking for the gaterway setting, it is 192,168.0.1 and that is reflected on the Mac, in the router field, as is done on Macs. When I aptitude remove ipmasq, it dont work, when I aptitude install ipmasq, it do work:)...and...01:58
BollocksMacenzieSorry, which hotplug file should I modify if I need to change the settings for a Rt2500 based wi-fi card?01:58
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fluffybunny_!dri01:58
ubotufluffybunny_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:58
arphetick ty01:58
dabardri.sf.net fluffybunny_.01:58
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dabarmy Internet conenction is fairly slow today, I dunno if its the stupid firewall(I hate firewalls) or just the connection.01:59
dabarheh01:59
oxezhow can I make my system use ISO-8859-1 as default instead as UTF-8?01:59
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decaffluffybunny_: what's your video card?01:59
dabarshouldve testted that too when I removed ipmasq01:59
Octave_OctetHi, I need to know what solutions I have to support an iPod FAT32 on hoary (I read you either need a 2.6.12 kernel or to recompile the kernel with specific options)01:59
dabarhi ogra.01:59
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MAPDwickedpuppy, i wanted to change stuff here :P01:59
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Octave_Octetand I would prefer to avoid recompiling01:59
dabarIm just lagging anyhow, its not the fw...:/02:00
fluffybunny_decaf: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M02:00
MorphDKHey.. My Kopete won't connect to MSN.. It tells me that my password is wrong, but I know that it's the right one..02:00
dabarMorphDK: tried anyu other prog?02:01
decaffluffybunny_: I asked because I installed dri support for my prosavage02:01
Octave_OctetMorphDK: You probably need to upgrade it02:01
wickedpuppyMorphDK, try gaim :P02:01
wickedpuppy!gaim02:01
ubotumethinks gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/02:01
Octave_OctetMorphDK: A few months ago the authentication for MSN changed02:01
wickedpuppyi can log in to msn with gaim02:01
dabarwtf is there to know about howto on gaim...02:01
dabarI guess..02:01
Octave_OctetMorphDK: And Kopete had to be upgraded to support it02:01
MorphDKOh I see..02:02
dabarwhere is the md5sums shown for hoary cds?02:02
dabarfound it02:02
dabarse ya seveas.02:02
MorphDKehm.. one more question.. when I try to run e.g. Samba Configuration in Kcontrol, and click on "Administrator Mode", the border turns red, but nothing happens.. It doesn't ask for a password02:03
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Vivaldiwhat's the kernel version in ubuntu by default?02:04
Octave_OctetMorphDK: You should check in #kubuntu02:04
thoreauputicVivaldi: 2.6.10 for Hoary02:05
iiiears2.6.10-5 386 no?02:05
thoreauputicVivaldi: type uname -r to see02:05
davrofluffybunny_, try glxinfo | egrep "glx (vendor|version)" if you see different vendor or versions for the client server this is your problem.02:05
iiiearsuname -r02:05
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thoreauputiciiiears: not on ppc ;)02:05
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iiiearsHuh - ? what is the ppc command?02:06
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thoreauputiciiiears: erm... apple... mac.... ppc02:06
dabarheh02:06
dabaryou guys are not on the same page02:06
iiiearsLol -  Ya know ya just can't lurk here and not learn something.02:06
arpheticMMM02:07
dabaruname has other options02:07
thoreauputicdabar: indeed02:07
thoreauputicuname -a02:07
thoreauputicfor a complete listing...02:07
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dabarand man uname among others:)02:07
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MAPDhi02:08
dabarI have 3 seconds of lag on some things, like pinging google.02:08
MAPDanyone knows a program that tells me02:08
MAPDwheres the ip?02:08
MAPDi mean if its german chinese02:08
MAPDwhatever?02:08
StrikeForcewheres the ip?02:08
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dabarlike02:08
StrikeForceyou mean traceroute ifoncifg02:08
StrikeForceifconfig?02:08
MAPDi expressed wrong02:08
bimberiMAPD: http://www.countrycheck.com02:08
MAPDno02:08
dabarnah02:08
dabarlike the website02:09
dabarya, that02:09
arpheticANyone have an idea why my screan is really shocky and why i cant update that shit drivers /02:09
arpheticnvrmind02:09
MAPDbimberi,  but is a program?02:09
thoreauputicMAPD:  host <IP number>02:09
bimberiMAPD: no, a service02:09
MAPDim downloading something now from apt-get02:09
MAPDi wanted to know if its from a portuguese mirror02:09
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MAPDi replaced the sources list02:09
dabaryay, both my live and install hoary downloaded with no md5sum errors.02:10
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MAPDbimberi,02:10
MAPDthats not what i need02:10
MAPD:\02:10
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thoreauputicMAPD: the host command will give you the full domain and country02:10
dabarawww..my wrist is screwed.02:10
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bimberiMAPD: yes, now realised, sorry02:11
thoreauputicMAPD: also whois02:11
MAPDthoreauputic, ook02:11
MAPDbut that not what i need02:11
MAPDi need to know02:11
MAPDat relay time02:11
MAPDwhere does it come from02:11
dabarMAPD: put pt in front of the sources.list, are you in portugal?02:11
MAPDyes02:12
davroall your wrists are belong to rsi02:12
MAPDother thing02:12
dabarwell, whats your sources.list look like?02:12
dabardavro: bah. tru.02:12
MAPDdabar,02:12
iiiearslol02:12
MAPDwant me to paste or send you the file02:12
MAPDon pastebin?02:12
thoreauputicMAPD: you'll see the IP - just run whois <IP number>02:12
SnorksWhat's the difference between ubuntu 5.04 for intel x86 ordered from ubuntu-linux.org for free a while ago, or the 5.04 intel x86 iso if downloaded from web? is there any difference at all?02:12
dabar!paste02:12
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:12
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MAPDwhy cant i copy a file from my desktop to apt dir02:13
MAPDmy user is sysadmin thingy02:13
Snorkscheck rights02:13
Snorksoh02:13
dabarthere is no such url, Snorks, it is either with no dash, or ubuntu.com02:13
MAPDim using the drag and drop02:13
dabarno difference02:13
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Snorksif the desktop belongs to /home/randomuser, then i think you might need to give root permissions02:13
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iiiearsSnorks - Hoary has been frozen except for security updates - they are both very much the same.02:13
dabarit dont work that way.02:13
Snorksnot all roots are uber-roots02:13
Snorksiiiears: and security updates i can get from the web after install?02:14
iiiearsYes02:14
MAPDhelp pls :P02:14
Snorksok02:14
dabarnautilus, which is what is used for dragging and dropping, does not has superuser priivilieges.02:14
Snorksthank you02:14
arpheticerr...02:14
arphetichttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/136202:14
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arpheticanyone can help me with that?02:14
MAPDdabar,  so doesnt work?02:14
dabarMAPD: pasted sources.list?02:14
MAPDwhat can i do?02:14
MAPDnope02:14
thoreauputicMAPD: you need to be clearer in your questions02:14
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thoreauputic!questions02:14
ubotuit has been said that questions is what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading02:14
dabarit could possibly, i dont wanna tell you how, cause its not safe to run nautilus as root, cause you might delete a lot.02:15
MAPDim trying to do drag and drop from my desktop to apt dir it says i dont have access02:15
iiiearsthoreauputic is teasing the bot. - lol02:15
gmooreif anyone is familiar with apache/php/ruby on ubuntu: i currently have apache installed. i would like to install php and ruby as well. can i just install packages or something as well (like you would on windows), or should i remove apache and compile it with said additions?02:15
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thoreauputicMAPD: because you aren't running nautilus with super user privileges02:15
gmoore!nautilus02:16
ubotuNo idea, gmoore02:16
MAPDthats right thoreauputic02:16
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MAPDim not running on root02:16
dabarinstall the packages.02:16
gmoorewhat is nautilus? i hear it mentioned a lot. :302:16
MAPDi disabled the gdm connection02:16
MAPDas root02:16
dabaryour file mangler02:16
thoreauputicMAPD: everything except /tmp outside your home dir requires elevated privileges02:16
dabarmanager02:16
chris__nautilus is the gnome filemanager02:16
bimberigmoore: the gnome file manager02:16
MAPDi cant install packages :P02:16
dabaris nautilus02:16
gmooreoh, wow. what a dumb question :{}02:16
MAPDim going to copy by hand02:16
MAPDlol02:16
michelegmoore, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP02:16
dabarnot really.02:16
dabarI did not know it at some point.02:17
dabaraj bok, guys, means bye.02:17
bimberigmoore: not at all02:17
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MAPD!pastebin02:17
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:17
thespiritoftal!help02:17
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iiiearsthere are a bunch of apps out there with names that obscure their function.02:17
davro!ruby02:17
ubotudavro: What?02:17
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thoreauputicMAPD: you install packages with synaptic (or apt or aptitude)02:17
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arphetichttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1362 <- Anyone goy a suggestion?02:18
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MAPDi cant02:18
MAPDlol02:18
iiiearswhat is "bicyclerepair" or "bonobo" - heh02:18
MAPDim trying to make it portuguese mirrors02:18
MAPDhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d136302:18
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MAPDwheres dabar?02:18
thoreauputicMAPD:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:18
thoreauputicMAPD: add pt in front of "archive" --->  pt.archive02:19
MAPDits already there02:19
thoreauputicMAPD: so what's your problem?02:19
MAPDif i add there02:19
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MAPDit will find my02:19
MAPDportuguese mirror?02:20
thoreauputicMAPD: if there is one, yes02:20
thoreauputicMAPD: if not it will default to something sane02:20
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deufodid j2re get removed from the apt thing?02:21
MAPDhum02:21
MAPDok thanks02:21
deufoi can't find j2re now02:21
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thoreauputicdeufo: it's in hoary-extras02:21
iiiearsdeufo - i believe it is in "extras"02:21
MAPDwhen i installed ubuntu it said it didnt have full support for my language in the cdrom and it said to go to the net download can i do it now?02:21
deufoah02:21
MAPDi cancelled before02:21
iiiears<< - nap02:21
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iiiearsZ..zz.z02:22
iiiearsG'nite :)02:22
thoreauputicdeufo: and it's sun-j2re1.502:22
deufoty02:22
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arpheticUnable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.02:23
arphetic       Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your02:23
arphetic       kernel02:23
arphetic?02:23
thoreauputicarphetic: what are you trying to compile?02:23
arpheticErm02:24
chrissturmrequiring kernel sources is more or less a bug02:24
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arpheticim trying to install vidcart drivers02:24
arphetic;)02:24
arphetichttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/136202:24
thoreauputicvidcart?02:24
arpheticyes the drivers02:24
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arphetichttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html02:25
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thoreauputicarphetic: you are trying to install nvidia drivers?02:25
arpheticyes02:25
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thoreauputic!nvidia02:25
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2902:25
thoreauputicarphetic: read that02:25
arpheticboth?02:25
owtputhi guys, anyone familiar with apt-pinning via synaptic?02:25
thoreauputicthe first one02:26
kemikowtput:  apt-pinning?02:26
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owtputkemik: yep02:26
Snorks|Operausb devices like printer and scanner, should they be plugged in during install or should i plug them in after everything is installed?02:26
arpheticOk thank you02:26
thoreauputicarphetic: you can't really "optimise" nvidia until you have the drivers, can you? *g*02:26
BollocksMacenzieDoes anyone know ehich hotplug files execute and in which order when inserting a PCMCIA wi-fi card?02:27
kemikowtput:  between breezy and hoary then ?02:27
hubsikann mir mal jemand irgendwie jemand seine schnste seite zeigen.. also.... die er am schnsten/besten (grafisch) findet ?02:27
owtputkemik: yep02:28
Snorks|Operausb devices like printer and scanner, should they be plugged in during install or should i plug them in after everything is installed? if you know this, please answer :) I am about to install Ubuntu right now02:28
owtputkemik: dun worry, this is only a testbed. my main box is still hoar'ing away02:28
thoreauputicSnorks|Opera: plug them in02:28
Snorks|Operathoreauputic: ok thank you02:28
owtputkemik: I'd like to start bug-submitting any quirks in breezy02:29
thoreauputicbefore install02:29
thoreauputicSnorks|Opera: the installer will try to identify them for you02:29
kemikowtput:  ah.. well.. im not familiar with howto do it in synaptic.. i always use the commandline :)02:29
BollocksMacenzieAre the hotplug scripts loaded into memory and not loaded again?02:29
BollocksMacenzieAt boot?>02:30
owtputkemik: did you upgrade to breezy by any chance?02:30
kemikowtput:  mmh, but it severly broke X for me02:30
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kemikso i had to go back to hoary02:30
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owtputkemik: what were the error messages?02:31
kemikdun think i'll try again until it's stable ;)02:31
thoreauputicBollocksMacenzie: I'm guessing no-one currently here knows - maybe wait a while and ask again (say 15 or 20 minutes?)02:31
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MAPDi changed sources.list02:31
arphetic!nvidia02:31
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2902:31
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MAPDwill it change on02:31
MAPDsynaptics too?02:31
kemikowtput:  lots about fonts, and then some other errors.. this was a few weeks ago02:31
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thoreauputicMAPD: yes02:31
maisy322can anyone tell me whats is the best wifi manager for gnome / ubuntu?02:31
owtputkemik: xorg.conf had a few diff naming schemes02:31
owtputkemik: eg. keyboard -> kbd02:31
thoreauputicMAPD: don't forget to reload/ update02:31
thoreauputicMAPD: synaptic is just a front end for apt02:32
MAPDah ok thanks02:32
MAPDi did update02:32
MAPDdid sudo apt-get update?02:32
thoreauputicyup02:32
thoreauputicMAPD: that's right02:32
kemikowtput:  wel, im staying clear until october ;) cause this is my mainbox.. and i dont wanna test stuff on it ;)02:32
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MAPDwhat02:33
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MAPDshould i install by default02:33
MAPD?02:33
maisy322does ubuntu come with a default wifi detection, connection tool?02:34
thoreauputicMAPD: what do you mean? Install whatever you wish...02:34
arpheticStrange02:34
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thoreauputicarphetic: what's strange ?02:35
MAPDhow to install02:36
MAPDwine and fully working?02:36
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Poromiesanyone here, who would know a thing or two about dvd burning support, k3b and such?02:36
Poromiesi have a problem with writing speeds02:36
thoreauputic*sigh*  sudo apt-get install wine  or choose it with synaptic02:36
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Poromiesi have dma enabled on the drive, k3b shows it to support 8x dvd burning02:36
thoreauputic!info wine02:37
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB02:37
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thoreauputicMAPD: wine is in universe02:37
Poromiesyet, when ever i start to burn something, it takes ages to complete the full disk 4.3gb and speed is never above 0.8x according to k3b02:37
arpheticthoreauputic: Enemy Territory stops at Sound init02:37
sambagirlhow do you do a quick search to locate everyone with a specific string in their nick? i forget how now. /whois james*02:37
sambagirlis that how?02:37
MAPDthoreauputic,02:37
MAPDexplain02:37
MAPDlol02:37
thoreauputicarphetic: killall esd, then try it again02:38
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chrissturmwhen i am burning a data cd with nautilus it doenst seem to use buffer underrun protection. with dvds it works. how can i fix that?02:38
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thoreauputicMAPD: how long have you been using Ubuntu ?02:38
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sambagirlwhat is the music channel for ubunto called? i was there but cannot remember the name now02:38
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MAPDfirst time :p02:39
arphetic?02:39
thoreauputicMAPD: read the "ubotu" link below02:39
thoreauputic!synaptic02:39
ubotusynaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:39
sambagirlwha is colony 3?02:39
thoreauputicMAPD: and this02:39
muffin_hi, i've installed netatalk (AppleTalk Protocol). any idea how to use it???02:39
thoreauputic!repos02:39
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:39
MAPDfound wine02:39
sambagirlwhat is colony 3?02:40
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muffin_!netatalk02:40
ubotumuffin_: Bugger all, i dunno02:40
arpheticXMMS can play winamp files (.PLS) right?02:40
thoreauputicsambagirl: the recent testing release of the new distro (Breezy)02:40
MAPDi chose02:41
arphetichttp://www.slamfm.nl/slamfmlivestream.php which one should i have ;)02:41
MAPDmark all updates02:41
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MAPDis this correct?02:41
sambagirlis there a ubuntu guru here?02:41
thoreauputicMAPD: do you want to update your existing apps or install wine only?02:42
sambagirlis there an amiga guru?02:42
sambagirlwhat are you talking about WINE for?02:42
spolanoooooooo, there are no guru's on IRC. ever02:42
MAPDupdate02:42
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sambagirlwinos.02:42
MAPDand install wine02:42
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sambagirlis all your doing is drinking?02:42
sambagirlwine wine wine02:42
thoreauputicMAPD: so select wine02:42
sambagirlis good for the heart02:42
sambagirlthe more you drink02:42
sambagirlthe more you fart02:42
arpheticsambagirl: they are busy02:42
thoreauputicsambagirl: do you have something ubuntu related to say?02:42
sambagirlyes02:42
titaniululzin synaptic what does the ubuntu symbol in the second column mean?02:43
MAPDall wine packages?02:43
sambagirlive been asking 3 times now02:43
sambagirlbut apparantantly there is no guru here to help me.02:43
thoreauputictitaniululz: stuff that's supported - in "main" in other words02:43
spolatitaniululz, im guessing it's set to true for all ubuntu packages, and left empty for foreign debs02:43
titaniululzah, thanks02:43
muffin_hi, i've installed netatalk (AppleTalk Protocol). any idea how to use it???02:43
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sambagirlwell geez do you have an apple on the lan?02:44
sambagirlif so it should be transparent.02:44
MAPDnot bad02:44
MAPDdownloading at 470kb/s02:44
muffin_samagirl: hm, windows doest support afp, does it02:44
MAPD:p02:44
muffin_samagirl: i do02:44
srijithon the topic of wine, has any one had issues with wine losing mouse/keyboard focus..? I know the solution, though not the actual cause02:45
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sambagirlwell i used another product for supporting afp thru windows me02:45
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sambagirla product put out by island.02:45
arpheticlets try now02:45
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muffin_sambagirl, cewl, ive never seen afp on a win machine ^^02:45
Ledoplease can someone help me install ubuntu02:46
sambagirli have it on my laptop it loads at boot time.02:46
sambagirlinstall it?02:46
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sambagirljust put the cdrom in the cdrom and boot from cdrom02:46
muffin_but any idea how to use a new proctocol??? afp://ip does not work... :(02:46
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LedoIf only it was that simple, i dont have a cd-rw,02:46
Ashenyo.02:46
sambagirlumm02:46
oxezIf I download a .deb package from somewhere where do I put it in order to be able to install it?02:46
LedoCan i install ubuntu from the iso image on my hdd like mandrake or red-hat02:47
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sambagirlsorry muffin. i wish i could help you truely i do. but i don't have any example here working to try02:47
spolathey will send you a cd for free (if only you ask)02:47
Ashenanyone know anything about getting directpad pro parrallel input working in ubuntu?02:47
LedoIve searched everywhere on wiki, but nothing worked02:47
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muffin_Ledo, you can order a pressed cd for f02:47
rob^^^anyone here running hoary or breezy on VirtualPC?02:47
rob^^^X is psychedelic02:47
LedoI ordered a cd 2 months ago02:47
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KarhutonIs the Grub on Hoary patched for XFS? The one on the installation DVD didn't work..02:47
Ledois there no way to install from iso image on hdd02:47
sambagirli have a bunch of cd's here they sent me 30 for AMD 64, PPC, X86 and AMIGA02:47
muffin_rob^^^, you can install ubuntu pcc on mac, cant you?02:47
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deadhorsewell,what's visualpc?02:47
shawarmaKarhuton: I use it with XFS just fine.02:47
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deadhorsehi,all.02:48
muffin_deadhorse, x86 emu for osx02:48
Karhutonshawarma, did you install Grub on installation?02:48
thoreauputicLedo: there probably is, but evidently so far no one here knows how02:48
sambagirli dont think so LEdo cause you hvae to install to the drive your installing from, think about it. there should be no o.s present, no?02:48
deadhorseoh02:48
bimberioxez: you can put it anywhere and use the command "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb" to install02:48
shawarmaKarhuton: The trick to actually installing it is to let the installation install lilo and later "upgrading" to grub yourself.02:48
LedoIve done it with red-hat02:48
oxezbimberi: ok thx02:48
bimberioxez: that said, it's best to get packages via apt02:48
shawarmaKarhuton: And when you do that, make sure you have a root console open!02:48
LedoI have a bootable ubuntu cd, but it has bad sectors, so i can start the install but evidently it freezes02:49
spolawell redhat and ubuntu are two diffrent things now aren't they?02:49
BollocksMacenzieASking again... Does anyone know how the hotplug subsystem works?02:49
Karhutonshawarma, explain in query, if you will02:49
shawarmaKarhuton: Because if you (like me) boot from your root partition (ie. don't have a /boot partition), grub-install is going to freeze / and then you have to unfreeze it from the root console.02:49
sambagirlThis is not Redhat LEdo. And As the resident Amiga Guru, I hereby declare that there is no way to do it for the serfs,02:49
muffin_Ledo, why dont you just order you free copy of ubuntu with a failsafe install and boot cd????02:49
thoreauputicsambagirl: it's possible to install linux from an image on another partition02:49
kemikBollocksMacenzie:  nope, but try google. i've read some great recource on that stuff with USB and the hotplugsystem02:49
Ledoi just said i HAVE ordered one and its been two months and still nothing02:50
gmooreyou know what? honestly, ubuntu is easier to use than windows. some stuff in the terminal is a bit tricky i guess, but really, synaptic is so easy to use to get anything you need that it beats the hell out of windows02:50
thoreauputicsambagirl: please, if you don't know, don't joke02:50
sambagirlSure that is possible Theraputic02:50
gmooreif only i didn't play so many videogames and i could put ubuntu on my main computer ;(02:50
sambagirlTheraputic will you stop being so bitchy.02:50
kemik*ooh* catfight!02:50
thoreauputicsambagirl: will you try to be on topic?02:50
sambagirlI'm busy here helping people.02:50
LedoOMFG :/02:50
thoreauputic*cough*02:51
muffin_any idea how to use apple talk proctocol??? afp://ip does not work... :( i insalled tha package "netatalk" from hoary multiverse02:51
sambagirlWill you try minging your own house?02:51
sambagirlAs i first asked in here WHAT IS COLONY and all you can say is stay on topic. Look your not my mama or my daddy so leave me alone.02:51
thoreauputicsambagirl: OK - well the ops are only a /msg away - suit yourself02:51
thoreauputicsambagirl: I answered your colony question02:52
owtputcolony, as in breezy colony?02:52
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owtputor colony of aliens from Starship Troopers02:52
sambagirlyou dont have to answer anything for me.02:52
LedoSo there is No way to install from iso image on fat32 partition02:52
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rob^^^muffin_ Ubuntu PPC does work but I'm in OS X all day anyway02:52
kemiksomeone's being childish02:52
rob^^^so I actually prefer to virtualize it as speed is not improtant to me02:52
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spolahey ledo, check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro?highlight=%28install%2902:52
rob^^^I'm already running XP under VirtualPC and have a dual proc with 2 gigs of ram so its not completely agnoziing02:53
fabbionecalm down02:53
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owtputc'mon humans02:53
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MAPDwhats multiverse?02:53
BollocksMacenziekermik: Trying to rewrite it to automatically configure the firewall and stuff. Like I did with my boot files.02:53
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volatile_I keep having issues with compiling mplayer with the GUI02:53
fabbionesambagirl: colony as in Colony of (breezy) Badgers02:53
volatile_I specify the --enable-gui options02:53
volatile_option02:53
volatile_but it keeps giving me this gtk error02:54
volatile_even though I installed gtk using synaptic02:54
owtputfabbione: as in "array" of hedgehogs?02:54
fabbioneowtput: yes02:54
kemikBollocksMacenzie:  trying to get the hotplugsystem to configure the firewall???02:54
owtputheh, cool02:54
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roham_Can somebody help me with startup problem...02:55
Ashenanyone know anything about getting directpad pro parrallel input working in ubuntu? (playstation controller-- not usb)02:55
Ledohow do i do a network install then,02:55
bimberifabbione: good to see the irc logging working again :)02:55
MAPDwhats multiverse? pls?02:55
volatile_is it source?02:55
kemikroham_:  just ask the question02:55
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volatile_the ps2 controller?02:55
muffin_!multiverse02:55
ubotuask me about !repositories02:55
Ledohow do i choose network install from the ubuntu setup02:55
muffin_!repositories02:55
ubotufrom memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:55
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fabbionebimberi: i had problems with my isp..02:55
fabbionethey were only slower than usual02:56
bimberifabbione: ah02:56
Ashenvolatile_: either... they use the same drivers02:56
muffin_MAPD, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:56
MAPDby the way i want to install02:56
MAPDblackbox02:56
volatile_Ashen, or what?02:56
maisy322so, noone knows of any wifi detector, connection utility for gnome / ubuntu, do u know anywhere else i might ask?02:56
MAPDcan i keep gnome right? and make it share stuff with the blackblox?02:56
bimberifabbione: looks like it only took them a week to fix :)02:56
MAPDmaisy322,  sourceforge.net02:56
MAPDtry one there02:56
Ashenvolatile_: ps2, ps1, any playstation device02:56
Ashenvolatile_: through the printer port02:57
BollocksMacenziekemik: I've alfready rewritten my boot to auto-detect my wi-fi card and configure the firewall, network monitor and ifconfig.02:57
volatile_what's your problem?02:57
Ashenvolatile_: it doesn't work... :p02:57
fabbionebimberi: yes.. but i don't care too much.. logs are only an extra low priority facility :)02:57
arpheticlets see02:57
volatile_lol, u installed it?02:57
Ashenvolatile_: not sure if the kernel is compiled with support02:57
volatile_you connected the ps2 controller yes?02:57
roham_kemik: if I have my internet cable plugged in, I cant login... I type username and password and then it just waint on a blanc screen, but if I unplug the cable I can login... I think my interface file is corrupt in someway I dont know...02:57
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Ashenvolatile_: but my efforts to get a kernel compiled and working on ubuntu have been... not good... at best...02:57
maisy322thanks for that, I'll go check sourceforge, pheww i was starting to feel invisible there02:58
bimberifabbione: :)02:58
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MAPDwhere can i get amsn?03:00
martin_http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/multimedia:nforce_treiber_installieren?s=nforce wie ist das in schritt 2 gemeint ?03:00
kemikroham_:  look in /etc/network/interfaces and paste that on pastebin03:00
thoreauputic!info amsn03:00
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB03:00
arpheticamsn sux03:00
arpheticuse Mercury03:00
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topylior gaim03:01
arpheticgaim sux too03:01
arphetic:] 03:01
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thoreauputicMAPD: use the search function in synaptic to find stuff :)03:01
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arpheticMercury ownt03:01
topyliarphetic: you're hard to please aren't you :)03:01
arpheticwww.mercury.to03:01
arphetictopyli: use it for like... 2 months... im sure u will be addicted03:01
kemikBollocksMacenzie:  so what isit that you want todo now? im lost =)03:01
arpheticim still busy on installing windows ffs03:02
arpheticnow creating Primary DOS partition03:02
topyliarphetic: i'm not really in need of an msn client right now03:02
volatile_man, I'm getting this issue where it says it can't find my gtk devel files, and THEY'RE INSTALLED!03:02
BollocksMacenziekemik: Modify the hotplug files so that the wifi card is autodetected when the machine is already running!03:02
MAPDi installed wine03:02
MAPDhow do i install stuff?03:02
MAPDa nice dvd player and dvd recorder03:03
MAPDwould be cool :p03:03
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topylivolatile_: perhaps wrong versions, or maybe you don't have some obscure gtk-foobar2-0-dev03:03
arpheticrofl03:03
arpheticMercury OWNZ OWNZ OWNZ03:03
arpheticmmm03:03
arpheticweird echo03:04
kemikBollocksMacenzie:  ahh of course.. well i messed with the hotplug system to identify my camera, i succeeded, but all was lost when i rebooted..03:04
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volatile_huh03:05
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volatile_topyli, I installed the GTK off the site, ubuntu specified03:05
thoreauputicvolatile_: the ones with the -dev suffix?03:05
volatile_both03:05
volatile_the regular and the dev I believe03:05
topylivolatile_: why won't the ubuntu packages do?03:05
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volatile_u mean mplayer ubuntu packages?03:06
thoreauputicvolatile_: mplayer is in the multiverse repo03:06
topylivolatile_: no, gtk03:06
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volatile_I konw03:06
volatile_I installed it03:07
volatile_but it doesn't work03:07
volatile_the other ones work03:07
volatile_like xine03:07
volatile_but mplayer doesn't work for me03:07
hansi_xpwhat's a good mp3 player with equalizer for linux (like winamp)03:07
volatile_could it be that I installed the codec package?03:07
rob^!bmp03:07
thoreauputicvolatile_: hmm - you have w32codecs ?03:07
ubotubmp is, like, a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer03:07
volatile_I installed the "essential" package, and I have w32codecs03:07
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volatile_r they conflicting?03:07
thoreauputicvolatile_: did you install from hoary-extras (w32codecs)03:08
hansi_xpi like winamp03:08
topylivolatile_: i'm taking about this: "man, I'm getting this issue where it says it can't find my gtk devel files, and THEY'RE INSTALLED!". different thing altogether :)03:08
volatile_yes03:08
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volatile_I installed the GTK files off synaptic03:08
volatile_the most recent versions03:08
volatile_the GTK and the GTK dev I believe03:08
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thoreauputicvolatile_: so where do the gtk packages fit in this picture? What are you using them for?03:09
icewthansi_xp, xmms ?03:09
hansi_xpi tried xmms and it crashed on me03:09
topylivolatile: your autoconf seems to disagree. what are you trying to do anyway03:09
icewthansi_xp, what does it say?03:09
hansi_xpi tried real player 10 too and it also crashed03:09
hansi_xpdoesn't say anything, it just doesn't play03:09
hansi_xpfreezes03:09
icewthansi_xp, what did you try to play?03:10
roham_!pastebin03:10
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:10
hansi_xpan mp303:10
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topylihansi_xp: realplayer can't handle your sound daemon, panics and freezes03:10
thoreauputichansi_xp: did you set the output plugin in xmms to "esound" ?03:10
hansi_xpnot sure03:10
topylihansi_xp: if you "killall esd", i'm sure realplayer will work03:10
thoreauputichansi_xp: try that first (for xmms)03:10
volatile_thoreauputic, I was trying to compile mplayer with the --enable-gui tag03:10
icewtah, esd.. it'd be better just to disable it ;)03:10
hansi_xpok thanks dude03:10
MAPDsudo apt-get install wine winetools $ winetools03:10
MAPDimpossible to fine winetools03:11
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roham_kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/136403:11
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topylivolatile_: so, are you sure you have the gtk1 devel packages, not gtk2?03:11
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thoreauputicvolatile_: mplayer from multiverse should work fine with the ubuntu w32codecs package from hoary-extras repo03:11
MAPDit says that wine is already installed and its recent03:11
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thoreauputicvolatile_: works here anyway03:11
volatile_I'll check that out, what's the command to delete a dir?03:11
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volatile_rmdir?03:12
volatile_rd?03:12
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roham_Witch Theme engine is the best one?03:12
topylivolatile_: mplayer is too weird anyway, and the gui especially is plainly insulting03:12
kemikroham_:  looks ok03:12
thoreauputicvolatile_: that's for empty dirs03:12
thoreauputicvolatile_: rm -r <dir>03:12
volatile_how I remove all files in a dir?03:12
volatile_del *.*?03:12
roham_kemik: ok but whats the error then?03:12
thoreauputicno03:12
kemikvolatile_:  rm -rf *03:12
thoreauputicvolatile_: see above03:12
volatile_-rf tag means what'?03:12
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kemikroham_:  dunno03:12
srijithr=recursive f=force03:13
gmoorei am following the Apache/Mysql/Php wiki guide and i'm unsure about what this means. "Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using." <- does that mean change it to my username? right now it's "www-data".03:13
michele-rf = recursive forced03:13
MAPDhelp pls03:13
guydebordI keep learning more03:13
MAPDis winetools multiverse?03:13
thoreauputicvolatile_: -f is force - be careful if you use that03:13
volatile_I want to delete the "codecs" directory03:13
volatile_tell me how plz03:13
roham_kemik: because I had problems before with the network and dhcp so I deleted the interface file and it got created by itself03:13
kemikroham_:  i thought it could be that your networkcard dont get an adress from the dhcpserver, but it should not lockup the entire computer03:13
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volatile_it has files in it03:13
volatile_what command do I use?03:13
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Ledowell this is just thuper gay, i spend hrs downloading ubuntu thinkin it would at least support installin from iso image and no, then when i ask for help people just get angry with each other :/03:13
thoreauputicvolatile_: sudo rm -rf /path/to/directory  (but be careful)03:14
guydebordThe GIMP help browser plug-in appears to be missing from your installation. Just recieved this message. Anyone know the link to help me install it?03:14
volatile_k03:14
volatile_did it03:14
roham_kemik: it dosnt lockup I can press ctrl-alt-backspace, and it restart the xwindows but its the samething... its stops, the splash screen dosnt come up, I need to reboot without the cable plugged03:14
hopenghow to use 5.1 speakers in ubuntu ?03:14
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gmooreLedo: boot from the cd03:14
Ledo:/03:14
evanproSo, I should download the Colony 3 CD, but I shouldn't use it?03:14
LedoI just said my only cd has errors on it03:15
evanproIs that the message I should get from the topic?03:15
thoreauputicvolatile_: which dir were they in? you might need to re-create it03:15
hansi_xphey xmms works :)03:15
thoreauputichansi_xp: :)03:15
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hansi_xp:)03:15
ubuntuguywhat is xmms?03:15
hansi_xpwinamp on linux03:15
hansi_xpsought of03:15
icewtguydebord, try to install gimp-helpbrowser03:15
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volatile_my mplayer opens03:16
guydebordThe GIMP help browser plug-in is missing from my installation. Anyone know the link to help me install it?03:16
volatile_but doesnt' do shit03:16
volatile_when trying to play a simple DivX file03:16
volatile_WTF?03:16
topyliubuntuguy: a music player that everybody used to use 5 years ago03:16
volatile_I have w32codecs installed03:16
thoreauputicvolatile_: you dleted the codecs,right?03:16
icewtguydebord, sudo apt-get install gimp-helpbrowser03:16
roham_kemik: any ideas?03:16
ubuntuguyI'm downloading Colony 3 right now, is there anything I should know?03:16
volatile_I deleted the "essential" codecs from the mplayerhq site03:16
kemikroham_:  i've had that sortof problem on window95/98.. never on linux... not sure what can be causing that behaviour03:16
michelehansi_xp, beep media player should be better than xmms, and look the same03:16
hansi_xpbeep media huh?03:17
topyliguydebord: there should be a package called gimp-help-browser or something. search synaptic for "gimp"03:17
thoreauputicvolatile_: and installed w32codecs from hoary-extras ?03:17
volatile_what is literally the best player available? With no sync issues, and doesn't look like mplayer? Something PRETTY and POWERFUL?03:17
rob^michele, better03:17
rob^!bmp03:17
ubotuhmm... bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer03:17
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Myrttiok, I could use some help here again. I need to reformat my USB flash memory stick since it seems to be someway corrupted. It shows in my Ubuntu as only 187M's of size03:17
volatile_I got the w32codecs installed from synaptic03:17
topylivolatile_: i just use rhythmbox. muine is great too03:17
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hansi_xpso does everybody download just with the package manager?03:18
Myrttianyone?03:18
kemikMyrtti:  goto the usbdevice in a terminal and in the usb-direcotry type "ls -lha"03:18
topylivolatile_: sorry, you're talking about video. totem03:18
roham_kemik: weird... and its nothing in the systemlog03:18
thoreauputichansi_xp: as much as possible, yes03:18
icewtbeep media player just eats more resources. if xmms works, i don't really see a reason to use bmp03:18
kemikMyrtti:  it can be that you've got a .Trash-user folder on the usb-device.. you'll have to Empty Trash03:18
MyrttiI've done that already03:18
volatile_huh?03:18
LedoUgh fuck this, what a waste of time :/03:18
volatile_video, totem?03:18
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volatile_I use totem now03:18
volatile_but it has SYNC ISSUES03:18
kemikMyrtti:  go in a terminal and check with "ls -lha"03:18
volatile_the AUDIO gets away from the VIDEO03:18
roham_kemik: can I delete the interface file again and try... but I dont thing its that file who makes the problem03:18
volatile_because it's based on Xine03:19
Myrtti12K03:19
icewtvolatile_, use mplayer03:19
kemikMyrtti:  it didnt empty my usb-device correctly with "empty trash"03:19
topylivolatile_: works here03:19
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volatile_GOD03:19
snackalothay ledo if you install gstreamer totem will work03:19
volatile_I'm TRYING to use mplayer03:19
volatile_JESUS03:19
volatile_that's my point03:19
volatile_mplayer doesn't work03:19
topylivolatile_: if xine and mplayer are out, you still have vlc03:19
topylicalm down03:19
icewtvolatile_, oh03:19
thoreauputicvolatile_: chill, dude03:19
volatile_vlc?03:19
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kemikroham_:  seems to be something else...03:19
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hansi_xpare there any really good repositories out there?03:19
volatile_sry, it's just ANNOYING to have people telling you the same thing over and over03:20
topyliSHOUTING is pretty rude too03:20
volatile_I installed mplayer and the w32codecs03:20
thoreauputichansi_xp: 16 000 apps not enough?03:20
Myrttigoar.03:20
Myrttino help03:20
kemikvolatile_:  did you apt-get mplayer, or compile from source?03:20
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roham_kemik: what happens when I press ok on the login screen? what is the first thing that gets loaded??03:20
hansi_xpmaybe not :)03:20
Goshawkdoes anybody know how to create an apt archive?03:20
thoreauputicvolatile_: have you read the code of conduct?03:20
volatile_I used the GUI thing03:20
volatile_quiet plz03:20
kemikMyrtti:  there was no ".Trash-user" on the usbdisk ?03:21
Myrttino03:21
kemikvolatile_:  mplayer didt work for me either using APT..  remove it and compile from source03:21
volatile_ok03:21
volatile_I tried that03:21
volatile_kemik03:21
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volatile_but it said I needed GTK files?03:22
volatile_Dev Files?03:22
Detoxquestion on partitons........ if I create a fat32 partition for Win 2000,, do i need to create a swap-partition or can I just use the remainder for linux partition?03:22
azriel0184ok, i just installed ubuntu, and in the installer i setup two sata drives. well, now when i boot it up it wont boot because it cant find them.03:22
Detoxthis is on a fresh HD03:22
kemikvolatile_:  mmh, you'll need a few extra things... "build-essential" etc03:22
thoreauputicDetox: you need swap - but the installer will guide you through that03:22
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Detoxok thanks03:22
volatile_Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).03:23
volatile_my error03:23
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volatile_when using ./configure --enable-gui03:23
hansi_xpwhy do the music player such as xmms or beep crash on default configuration?03:23
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kemikvolatile_:  http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt <-- follow that guide, it will let you compile alright.. BUT get the latest files from mplayerhq.hu, dont just wget the old stuff from the guide03:23
mr_daemonYo03:23
Myrttiwhat fun. I love this. dammit03:23
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Detoxwould 2 -5 gig be ok for the swap-partition?03:23
Myrttianyways, I have to go03:23
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MyrttiI'll battle with this later03:23
thoreauputicDetox: too much03:24
kemikDetox:  less than 1gb is required03:24
kemikeven less than that03:24
thoreauputicDetox: 500mb should be ample03:24
Detoxok03:24
Detoxok better03:24
mr_daemonI have an extremely stupid question -- you see, I am not yet fluent with the debian-ish way of doing things and I was wondering -- How the heck does one manages RCs?03:24
LokeDKwhat does dcopserver do?03:24
mr_daemonIn other words, runlevels.03:24
azriel0184any ideas on how to get my ubuntu to recognise my sata drives on boot? my /usr is on one of them, so no way i can boot unless that is mounted03:25
thoreauputicmr_daemon: do you mean startup scripts?03:25
mr_daemonBecause you know, rcconf kinda sucks.03:25
roham_kemik: what happens when I press ok on the login screen? what is the first thing that gets loaded??03:25
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Yeah, runlevels.03:25
topylimr_daemon: basically, we don't use them03:25
volatile_ok, so use this guide, but don't use the apt-get install manpages? ETC??03:25
kemikroham_:  the gdm login? you get a splashscreen, then the background and all loads03:25
volatile_don't install the files it tells me too?03:25
topylimr_daemon: debian usually runs on runlevel 203:25
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KarhutonGrub quesiton: is hdc hd(1,0) if hdb doesn't exist?03:25
thoreauputicmr_daemon: debian distros only use levels 1 and 2 by default - what do you want to do?03:25
hansi_xphow do i choose a xmms as the default player?03:25
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kemikvolatile_:  no use apt-get , but get the latest MPLAYER sources03:26
muffin_what package do i need to install to get DivX run in totem???03:26
kemikvolatile_:  so dont use his WGET urls03:26
volatile_ok03:26
volatile_don't use the wget03:26
kemikmuffin_:  i'd recommend VLC instead03:26
yongzhidoes anyone know why my VLC player does not have sound when it plays?03:26
volatile_just use apt-get03:26
Karhutonmuffin_, totem-xine <-- that03:26
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volatile_sound drivers?03:26
muffin_thx03:26
topylimuffin_: win32codecs and totem-xine03:26
kemik!restricted03:26
uboturestricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:26
mr_daemonWell this is new to me. Suppose I want samba to run atomagically a startup -- which I think will be done automagically indeed -- then change my mind and decide I do want it installed and not running..?03:26
volatile_my mplayer did the same thing03:26
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Karhutonmuffin_, you don't need w32codecs, unless you want to view WMV and RealMedia files03:27
yongzhierm .. but i'm able to listen to music in other player03:27
thoreauputicmr_daemon: sudo invoke-rc.d samba stop|start|restart03:27
jmyersdoes anyone here know about getting integrated wireless to work on a laptop?03:27
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Well, yes, I could also directly call the script in init.d... but I don't want it to start automatically. (Lets pretend)03:27
volatile_where does apt-get save the files it downloads?03:28
mr_daemonthoreauputic: You can pick sshd as an example as well...03:28
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roham_kemik: so its the splash screen that is loaded first? that must be the error right?03:28
muffin_Karhuton, but i have to uninstall gstreamer to get xine....03:28
thoreauputicmr_daemon: man update-rc.d03:28
thoreauputicmr_daemon: it's pretty easy03:28
Karhutonmuffin_, you only uninstall 'totem-gstreamer'. Gstreamer should be intact for other Gnome apps03:28
Snorks|Operaive just installed ubuntu, and there is no root account03:28
Snorks|Operaor, there is, but i can't get into it03:28
hansi_xpi still like winamp better :)03:28
kemikroham_:  well, dont see what it has todo with your ethernetcable being plugged in or not :|03:28
mr_daemonthoreauputic: I just discovered that right before you said it. I like it so far, however is there a way to "list" the current state of services?03:28
volatile_Snorks|Opera, there is no root because they want you to use "sudo" instead of -su03:28
hansi_xpnobody likes winamp huh?03:29
Snorks|Operavolatile_: ok, but i need to fix /etc/hosts03:29
volatile_I like winamp03:29
hansi_xpcool03:29
michelewinamp is oh so '90s03:29
hansi_xpcan i get winamp on linux :)03:29
compdude"kernel panic: not syncing. No init found" (i think it's because i deleted .udevdb) please help!03:29
thoreauputicmr_daemon: you mean see if they are running?  pgrep samba or ps aux | grep samba03:29
volatile_Snorks|Opera, if you really need to define a root acct, search google, your answer will be there03:29
kemikvolatile_:  apt-get usually installs them right away, but they can be found in /var/cache/APT or something like that03:29
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roham_kemik: true :P but what is loaded that have to do with the network?03:30
jmyerssnorks: you can open a root terminal even if you don't have a root account03:30
volatile_ok, let me check03:30
kemikroham_: dont know :)03:30
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azriel0184ok, i just installed ubuntu, and in the installer i setup two sata drives. well, now when i boot it up it wont boot because it cant find them.03:30
azriel0184any ideas on how to get my ubuntu to recognise my sata drives on boot? my /usr is on one of them, so no way i can boot unless that is mounted03:30
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volatile_...03:30
mr_daemonthoreauputic: No, not really, that I know. I could also just do a status on the rc script, or invoke pidof. But what I want to know is how to know if an init script is set to run automatically at startup. If I have to pick a comparison, It would be what is the equivalent of chkconfig list in red hat and rc-update show in gentoo?03:31
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volatile_why you put your /usr on your Sata that doesnt' boot?03:31
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Where it list all "services" on the machine and their state, set to enabled, disabled etc...03:31
KarhutonI just ran: grub-install /dev/hda, but reading 'hda' device with 'more' still shows string "LILO" in the beginning03:31
owtputkemik: what were the error messages?:Q03:31
thoreauputicmr_daemon: I'm not familiar with those distros (debian person)03:32
Karhutongrub-install said though, 'Installation finished. No errors reported"03:32
kemikowtput:  dont remember exactly.. someting about font-paths and missing fonts etc03:32
joeehow do I get the name of my machine?03:32
thoreauputicmr_daemon: if you install a daemon in ubuntu it will be started on boot by default03:32
volatile_so is ubuntu the best version of linux?03:32
hansi_xpna03:32
Karhutonvolatile_, No03:32
volatile_what is the best version?03:32
volatile_and why?03:32
thoreauputicmr_daemon: sshd, samba etc03:32
hansi_xpdebian03:32
Karhutonvolatile_, There isn't one03:32
kiwikithere are no best version03:32
Karhutonvolatile_, Each distro for each need03:32
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Well, do you have an idea of what I am trying to achieve? Something like what rcconf would do, only with built-in tools...03:33
volatile_linux sux at playing windows games :D03:33
kiwikiyou choose that you love ..03:33
hansi_xpdrugs03:33
joee:D03:33
Karhutonvolatile_, My car sucks at driving on two wheels03:33
joeehow do I get the name of my machine?03:33
Karhutonvolatile_, I don't know why03:33
owtputkemik: omg, i dunno how I addressed that to you03:33
kemikuname03:33
volatile_lol03:33
volatile_that makes no sense03:33
kemikor wait not03:33
kemikthat one03:33
thoreauputicmr_daemon: maybe you woud like the "BUM" app - Boot Up Manager03:33
owtputkemik: i was busily typing at the console. i was half asleep, i guess.03:33
kemikowtput:  ;)03:33
Karhutonvolatile_, That's because you're too stupid to understand it?03:33
volatile_so you guys dont play games?03:33
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volatile_hey03:33
volatile_relax03:33
owtputgnite all03:33
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thoreauputicmr_daemon: I'd have to google a link...03:33
volatile_no need for name calling03:33
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volatile_did I offend you?03:34
volatile_lol03:34
kemikvolatile_:  doom3 and Unreal Tournament is available for linux03:34
mr_daemonthoreauputic: I shall apt-get the hell out of it then.03:34
oonoonhi everybody03:34
kemikvolatile_:  and you can use Cedegea for WoW and lots of other games03:34
thoreauputicvolatile_: your nick is well chosen ;)03:34
volatile_cedega costs money03:34
volatile_heh03:34
volatile_thx03:34
hansi_xphow do you put someones name in front?03:34
oonoondo you know what's the encryption algorithm used with the 'vim -x' command ?03:34
KarhutonUse cedega-cvs03:34
guydebordicewt: I installed the gimp-helpbrowser succesful, but I still get the message Could not open '/usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading: No such file or directory. What should I change in preferences or should I move files around?03:34
thoreauputicmr_daemon: afaik bum is not in the repos03:34
volatile_hey03:34
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Darn.03:35
volatile_Karhuton, could you please walk me through the installation of cedega-cvs?03:35
thoreauputicmr_daemon: hang on a minute03:35
KarhutonAnd if you want, then later on buy Cedega. It's better and easier to use than the CVS "hack"03:35
volatile_I tried but failed03:35
Karhutonvolatile_, NO03:35
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Well, actually... now that I know that there are no runlevels on debian, rcconf makes more sense.03:35
volatile_ok03:35
volatile_np then :D03:35
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volatile_I'll figure it out sometime :D03:35
volatile_right now I have vmware03:35
Seveasmr_daemon, there are runlevels on debiam03:35
volatile_workstation03:35
Seveasdebian*03:35
hansi_xpwho watches american chopper?03:36
Seveasbut levels 3,4,5 are not used by default03:36
volatile_but I basically have to install windows, and that sux03:36
volatile_I would rather run games off the linux03:36
volatile_to get the most out of my hardware03:36
thoreauputicmr_daemon: just to confuse you: there are runlevels, but the only two commonly used are 1 and 203:36
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Seveasthoreauputic, and 0 and 6 :)03:36
volatile_0 is power off03:36
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kemikvolatile_:  you'll get the most out of your hardware on Windows03:36
volatile_and 6 is reboot?03:36
Seveasyup03:36
thoreauputicSeveas: indeed :)03:36
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hansi_xpokay, who watches porn?03:36
mr_daemonthoreauputic: I got that so far03:36
volatile_yea, but I want to learn linux03:36
volatile_I do03:36
Seveasso the majority of rinlevels is used :)03:36
volatile_watch porn03:36
compdudei thoutgh 3 was multiuser/standard03:36
thoreauputicmr_daemon: :)03:36
pittijelkner: please continue here to not clutter up the development channel03:37
Seveascompdude, 2 is multiuser03:37
volatile_I have a lot of it, but not too much ;)03:37
kemikim guessing you're too young for porn volatile_ :O03:37
thoreauputiccompdude: not in debian/ubuntu03:37
volatile_lol03:37
volatile_I'm 2303:37
volatile_:D03:37
guydebordHow can I make my gimp access the help browser that I just installed?03:37
hansi_xp:D03:37
mr_daemonthoreauputic: I mean, I have administered commercial unices that had no system V style init at all.03:37
Seveastake the porn discussion elsewhere....03:37
Seveashighly off limits in here03:37
volatile_lol, someone just asked and I responded, not actually discussing it03:37
thoreauputicmr_daemon: man, you won't have any trouble then :)03:38
pittijelkner: hm, making an user member of www-data doesn't sound rivht03:38
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volatile_but yea, I want to learn linuz03:38
hansi_xpyou people are too serious03:38
pittijelkner: you should rather configure your ftp server appropriately03:38
jelknerpitti: what is the right way to do this?03:38
volatile_I dual boot, ubuntu and windows XP03:38
hansi_xpme too03:38
jelknerif you could give me some pointers, i promise to put a mini-how to on the wiki03:38
volatile_and I have another version of linux on my XP installation, using VMware03:38
jelkneri searched, there is not good documentation i could find03:38
Seveasjelkner, in the configuration for the ftp server you can usually set a umask too03:39
volatile_when I installed windows on linux using VMware03:39
hansi_xpgo the windows xp03:39
Seveasclearly this umask is wrong in the config03:39
volatile_it wasn't a good scene03:39
thoreauputicmr_daemon: in case you are interested in BUM --> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7503:39
volatile_linux owns when it comes to minimizing resources03:39
Digital_Warrior0i have a question if any one is up for it03:39
volatile_linux is like windows after a fresh install03:39
guillemI would buy a video-camera. Which kind are better, tape-based ones or DVD-based ones?03:39
volatile_super fast03:39
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Yeah, I found it in the faq and already installed it :P03:39
jelknerSeveas: and that would be where?03:39
hansi_xpyeah but linux doesn't have winamp03:39
arpheticvolatile_: your a funny guy03:39
jelkneri'm in /etc03:39
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thoreauputicmr_daemon: toofast for me ! *grin*03:39
Seveasjelkner, depends on which ftp server you use..03:39
volatile_arphetic, you being sarcastic?03:40
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jelknerah03:40
mr_daemonthoreauputic: It is pretty cute looking03:40
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azriel0184ok, i just installed ubuntu, and in the installer i setup two sata drives. well, now when i boot it up it wont boot because it cant find them.03:40
azriel0184any ideas on how to get my ubuntu to recognise my sata drives on boot? my /usr is on one of them, so no way i can boot unless that is mounted03:40
arpheticpwd => /home/arphetic03:40
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jelknervsftp03:40
jelkneris there a better one?03:40
volatile_lol03:40
arpheticvolatile_: you made me laugh03:40
agraupeis there a text-mode browser that supports Javascript?03:40
azriel0184i added sata_via to /etc/modules... is there anything else i need to add?03:40
mr_daemonthoreauputic: aaaaaand hangs.03:40
Seveasazriel0184, 'can't find them' is not really descriptive...03:40
thoreauputicmr_daemon: hmm03:40
jelknerwhat is the ubuntu "standard"03:40
jelkner?03:40
pittijelkner: vsftp is fine and the Ubuntu standard03:40
Seveasjelkner, vsftpd is good03:40
arpheticMonsterjam 0wnET03:41
azriel0184Seveas: it isnt adding the device nodes at all03:41
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guillemazriel0184, don't know, I have whole ubuntu in sata without trouble03:41
thoreauputicmr_daemon: you don't want to hear that it Works for Me (tm)03:41
jelkneri tried sticking to the standard03:41
volatile_the funny thing is, I'm not trying to be funny, just trying to voice the "winblows" mindset :D03:41
Seveasazriel0184, are the sata drivers in your initrd?03:41
jelknerbut the only file i see in /etc is ftpusers03:41
guydebordHow can I make my gimp access the help browser that I just installed?03:41
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Seveasvsftpd: etc/vsftpd.conf03:41
Seveasvsftpd: etc/ftpusers03:41
azriel0184Seveas: i added sata_via to /etc/modules03:42
volatile_Gosh, it would be GREAT if I could somehow run my warcraft 3 on linux...03:42
jelknerok, i should have thought of that :-(03:42
azriel0184so, i think so03:42
volatile_could someone help me install the cedega source stuff?03:42
volatile_I can find the site and stuff, but I don't know how to compile it or use the settings, or whatever03:42
kemikvolatile_:  think WINE cna help you with wc3.. see winehq.com03:42
Seveasazriel0184, well, that's just adding them to the loaded modules, but the frivers themself need to be in the initrd too03:42
volatile_I tried wine, it sux :/03:42
azriel0184Seveas: where, how?03:42
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Oh, wait, it works. It just took a while to start. Aaaand I just realized that I fetched the .deb without knowing for what architecture it was, and it apparently worked o.o03:43
volatile_I want something better :D03:43
volatile_higher quality :D03:43
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volatile_will wine let me play warcraft off my ntfs drive or do I have to do a fresh install?03:43
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thoreauputicmr_daemon: ah. all's well then...03:43
azriel0184Seveas: where/how do i add the drivers?03:43
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Well, I'm on a powerpc platform. Works well so far.03:44
jmyersdoes anyone have experience with setting up wireless in ubuntu?03:44
thoreauputicmr_daemon: cool ;)03:44
WOMANwhen I go into System|Administration|Networking and type in my root passwd it causes a wierd error and says something about a child dependancy. Does anyone know what that means and how to fix it?03:44
volatile_how do I run a game with wine?03:44
mr_daemonthoreauputic: Well thank you for your help, it is appreciated. :)03:44
volatile_for instance03:44
volatile_my war3.exe is located03:45
thoreauputicmr_daemon: pleasure :)03:45
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mindamphow do i change my eth0 setup after the install?03:45
volatile_/mnt/winXP/Program Files/Warcraft III/War3.exe03:45
mindampi have no guis...03:45
mindampbase server isntall03:45
Seveazazriel0184, well, that's just adding them to the loaded modules, but the frivers themself need to be in the initrd too03:45
Seveazazriel0184, have you tried searching the forums? I recall having seen others with the same problem03:45
SeveazWOMAN, the menu items need your own password03:45
volatile_do I have to do a fresh install?03:45
volatile_if so03:45
Seveaznot a root password03:45
volatile_how would I do it?03:45
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zukalkgconf is amazing.. all the stuff i wanted to change and tried to during weeks, and now i solved it all. my spatial is now normal, galeon looks the way want it, and so on03:45
mindampeverytime i google it, or check the forums...03:46
WOMANcheers i'll have a closer look03:46
azriel0184Seveaz: i did a little, and i remember fixing this the last time i used ubuntu... i just dont remember how03:46
mindampall the answersinclude using x windows...03:46
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SeveasWOMAN, if you can't solve it - msg me in 10 minutes, I have to go now03:46
mindampwhere is the file that contains the configuration for the nics?03:46
WOMANthanks03:46
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paxmindamp: /etc/network/interfaces03:46
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jmyersi've tried using ndiswrapper to get my windows broadcom driver to work with my integrated wireless, but when i get it set up and modprobe it it says "operation not permitted"03:47
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Darkshrimphey people03:47
Darkshrimpi have 2 questions03:48
Darkshrimpcan anyone help me?03:48
Darkshrimpwith ubuntu03:48
nomis_Darkshrimp, just ask the questions ;)03:48
Darkshrimpcool :)03:48
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Darkshrimp1st. how do you connect to dial up *i setted up already, but how to do dial*03:48
Darkshrimp2nd. how do u access D drive03:48
Darkshrimpbrb03:48
jmyersso anybody know about wireless?03:49
nomis_d drive?03:49
guillemDarkshrimp, system->Admin->networking select the ppp and activate it, I guess03:49
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joeehey where do I find the sldap.conf?03:49
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guillemDarkshrimp, probably also "sudo ifconfig ppp0 up"03:49
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nomis_jmyers, are you doing modprobe with sudo?03:50
guillemDarkshrimp, probably easier03:50
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jmyersyes03:50
nomis_joee, locate sldap.conf ;)03:50
mojo333Does anyone know why, that no matter how many times I change it, the workspace switcher always changes back to four panels?03:50
displagueis there a recommended x font server for ubuntu?  xfs, xfstt, or xfs-xtt?  xfs seems to be preferred based on the 7100 port in xorg.conf, but xfs-xtt has more features (according to the package info)03:50
joeenomis_ doesn't get anything already tried03:51
jmyersndiswrapper -l says that both driver and hardware are present03:51
micheledisplague, you shouldn't need a font server at all03:51
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pippinwhere can I find the config file used to build the stock ubuntu kernel?03:51
displaguemichele: understood, but i'ld just love to know.  does ubuntu enable it out of the box?03:52
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LinuxDolt!printing03:52
ubotuLinuxDolt: Are you smoking crack?03:52
LinuxDolt!cups03:52
ubotuLinuxDolt: Are you smoking crack?03:52
LinuxDoltblah03:52
guydebordI just checked and my gimp helpbrowser is installed but gimp help keeps saying it is missing. Can somebody please tell me what I have to cahnge?03:52
displaguewhat i'm really after is the package that provides 'fixed'.  x is starting because it can't find the file, and my fontpaths all seem to be correct (/usr/share/X11/fonts)03:52
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LinuxDoltok, appearantly printing doesn't auto-configure03:52
LinuxDolti can't find the printing docs03:53
LinuxDoltso where are they?03:53
displaguepippin: /boot03:53
Darkshrimpguyz, i followed this guide, i went to termials type din sudo pppconfig, and seted it up03:53
thoreauputicguydebord: did you try re-starting gimp?03:53
Darkshrimpand it says to connect just type pon... but where do i type it and i typed it in termnials and it didn't work03:53
pippindisplague: thank you,. (I was looking for config.gz in proc)03:53
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mojo333umms, alright, since noone answered, does anyone know where I would find the config file for the workspace switcher?03:54
micheledisplague, ubuntu doesn't install a font server. fixed is in xfonts-base, IIRC, try reconfiguring that03:54
thoreauputicDarkshrimp: is your user in the dip and dialout groups? And did you specify a providername?03:54
displagueroot@bang:/proc# dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base03:54
displagueroot@bang:/proc#03:54
displaguenice ...03:54
Darkshrimpprovidername, i left it as provider, and wat u mean dip and dailout:S03:55
Darkshrimpi'm really new to ubuntu03:55
thoreauputicDarkshrimp: is this an internal modem?03:55
micheledisplague, xlsfonts | grep fixed03:55
Darkshrimpyes03:55
duality_how can you run a graphics program from the terminal so that it doesn't "stop" the terminal until that program is closed?03:55
thoreauputicDarkshrimp: it's probably a Winodem - might not be supported03:55
rob_newbieHey all,  I have a problem setting up my old laptop.  It is a CTX Ezbook 700 and I would like to install linux.  However I was given it formated and I have not been able to get it to recognize the cd rom. It is a removable bay.  I have cheacked connections.  Any suggestions?03:55
duality_I know it's something like "program options %1" or something03:55
thoreauputic*winmodem03:56
mlacage_duality_, "program options &"03:56
duality_thanks03:56
michelemojo333, gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager03:56
mlacage_duality_, when it is already running, you can type "ctrl-z" to stop it03:56
gmoorei'm trying to install ruby on apache2 in ubuntu; i need to put eruby in the cgi-bin directory apparently, but there doesn't seem to be one anywhere in my install. any guesses as to where i should make one?03:56
displaguemichele: i don't think that would work, since that asks X, which I'm not in - because it won't start.. in addition, i don't have xlsfonts for some reason (just upgraded from hoary to breezy - so all hell has broken loose)03:56
mlacage_duality_, and then you type "bg" to restart it in the background03:56
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mlacage_duality_, or "fg" in the foreground03:57
micheleoh breezy upgrade...03:57
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rob_newbieI have aquired a ctx ezbook 700. formated and cannot install operating system due to not being able to find the cdrom03:57
guimhi all03:57
rob_newbieany suggestions?03:57
mlacage_rob_newbie, install from the network03:57
guimi have a question about imageMagik command tools03:57
mlacage_rob_newbie, can your laptop do netboot ?03:57
LinuxDoltanyone know where the printing documentation is at?03:58
rob_newbieI have not tried03:58
displagueduality_ : and you can do "program options  2>&1 > /dev/null & " if the program is too noisy03:58
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mlacage_rob_newbie, look in the bios. there should be something.03:58
guimdoes anyone know if mogrigy or any of the available comamnd allow to modify a complet set of GIF images colors?03:58
rob_newbieHow would I net boot?03:58
LinuxDolti want to fricken get my printer working.  i've been ignoring it, but it's time to get it done03:58
mlacage_rob_newbie, in the boot order options, you should see something related to network03:58
guimI mean replace color X by color Y in 50 images03:58
guimat once03:58
guim?03:58
mlacage_rob_newbie, maybe under the heading "PXE"03:58
displagueguim: for a in *gif; do mogrify blah $a; done ??03:59
guydebordthoreauputic: Restarted Gimp and I get an empty Help Browser dialog box. Plus an error message that gimp help-en is not installed. I'll try that now.03:59
displagueguim: oh - you mean the frames of the gif?03:59
guimI have 100 .gif files03:59
thoreauputicguydebord: oh i see - not exactly intuitive stuff...03:59
rob_newbieNo It gives three options CD, Hard disk, and Diskette drive03:59
guimwhere I want to change color #124589 by #156785 for example04:00
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displagueguim: then what i said will work04:00
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linux_dudehi all04:00
guimmogrify blah $a; done ??04:00
mlacage_rob_newbie, well, the cd does not work, then the easiest thing to do is install on the HD with another laptop and then boot it04:00
linux_dudehow will i connect to postgres04:00
mlacage_rob_newbie, I wouldn't recommend trying to install with disks :)04:01
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rob_newbieLOL yeah04:01
benjamin1254sup rob04:01
guimdisplague, could you give a command example?04:01
displagueguim: just make sure the wildcard fits the files.. yes... "for a in pr0n-*.gif; do mogrify -options "$a"; done" ... you may have to give to file names, so "mogrify $a $a.new" might be needed.04:01
guimi didn't get it04:01
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rob_newbieWell can I install the driver from the a drive?04:02
eliphas_sure04:02
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guimok I can't do that in justb one commaden line then04:02
benjamin1254im running gnome how do i get the new apt-get servers?04:03
displagueguim: i use convert (also imagemagik) all the time, so i would say "for a in *jpg; do convert -scale 640 $a; done"  (but i wouldn't really do that, i'ld try to preserve tags04:03
linux_dudehow can in work in postgres04:03
displagueguim: you run that from the shell04:03
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guimok04:03
guimthank you i will try04:03
eliphas_new apt-get servers from shell ?04:03
guimthx displague04:03
benjamin1254yes04:04
gmoorei installed php4 and ruby1.8.2 both using apt-get for apache; apache sees them (i know because if i go to an error404 page on my webserver they're listed at the bottom). making a .php page uses the php parser; however i cannot get ruby to parse anything (tried .rb and .rhtml). i looked in apache2.conf but it doesn't say anything about php OR ruby, so i don't know what it's looking for.04:04
guimmayby see you later, i will try that04:04
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guydebordthoeaputic: synaptic isn't letting me mark gimp help-eng for installation. Could you help me with the command in shell? Im still pretty green.04:04
rob_newbieHey04:04
Daveygmoore, check in /etc/apache/conf.d IIRC04:04
displaguegmoore: apt-get install libapache-mod-ruby (or libapache2-mod-ruby)04:05
gmooredavey: all that is there is 'charset'04:05
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volatile_man I can't seem to get wine working :/04:05
computergeeim having trouble with the nvidia drivers, every time i reboot or restartx, o have to reinstall04:05
gmooredisplague: i did that, check it out: http://titaniumone.mine.nu/aaaa04:05
mlacage_rob_newbie, I don't undertsnad your question. what exactly is not working with your cd drive ?04:05
volatile_could someone help me through it?04:05
volatile_I got it installed04:05
volatile_but I can't run my game04:05
jelknerpitti: thanks a 10**6! everything is working fine...04:05
gmooreat the bottom of the page, "Ruby/1.8.2(2004-12-23)" -- so apache sees it. how the heck do i invoke it?04:05
jelkneryou were most helpful04:05
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displaguegmoore: a2enmod ruby04:05
gmooredisplague: ?04:05
computergeeim having trouble with the nvidia drivers, every time i reboot or restartx, o have to reinstall, im running ubuntu04:06
pittijelkner: well, I didn't do much :-) What was the solution? indeed ftp server config?04:06
displaguegmoore: enables the module using the goodness of the /etc/apache2/mods-availables/ruby.conf file04:06
jelknerin /etc/vsftp.conf i just changed the default umask04:06
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lesshasteis there a 64 bit ubuntu channel?04:06
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jelknerSeveas: thanks to you, too!04:07
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benjamin1254srry cant get enough of that 104:07
gmooredisplague: ahhhhh, move ruby.conf to mods-enabled?04:07
XandriXdebootstrap program exited with an eror (return value 1)04:07
rob_newbiemlacage: When installing an operating system it states it cannot be installed for one of the fallowing reasons.  Hard drive not found or cd-rom not found04:07
michelegmoore, symlink it04:07
gmooredisplague: wait nevermind, there is no ruby.conf in mods-available. what :(04:07
displaguegmoore: oh - i see.. the mod is already loaded... check that conf file forr the addtype lines04:07
alex__I am using camstream, but I am not sure how to strem :), I have read the doc but appart from saying that pict can be saved to FTP I can't find how to do thi04:07
benjamin1254where cn i find more gnome splash screens?04:08
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gmooredisplague: the conf file is not there :)04:08
gmooreperhaps that is my problem04:08
rob_newbieIt will not boot to cd and I can get the prompt for the harddrive not the cd04:08
displaguegmoore: a2enmod does the work for you.. if there is no conf file then maybe you should make one up... or check around conf.d (i haven't used the ruby mod, but php works as i am describing)04:08
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mlacage_rob_newbie, "an operating system" ?04:08
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mlacage_rob_newbie, what are you doing exactly ? inserting a floppy in the floppy drive to boot with the floppy ?04:09
gmooreinvoke 'a2enmod ruby' from anywhere?04:09
rob_newbieyes04:09
mlacage_rob_newbie, why don't you boot from a cd ?04:09
filip_how can i get shockwave in ubuntu?04:10
thoreauputic!flash04:10
ubotuwell, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:10
gmooregarrett@opti:/etc/apache2$ a2enmod ruby04:10
gmooreThis module is already enabled!04:10
rob_newbieIt just states invalid system disk.  even if I put a windows disk in04:10
filip_yes but i need shockwave.04:10
alex__how can I read a webcam stream from a sequence of images saved on a ftp server ?04:11
Nermalrob_newbie, set it to boot from cd in the bios04:11
displaguegmoore: i see this.. try /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-ruby/examples/httpd.conf-apache2 -- copy that to /etc/apache2/mods-available/ruby.conf and then a2dismod ruby; a2enmod ruby04:11
arpheticAnyone has ET installed on Ubuntu?04:11
mlacage_rob_newbie, I am not sure I understand what you are doing but here is my suggestion: 1) go to the bios, edit the "boot order". Make sure cdrom is before floppy and before HD. 2) insert linux CD in cd drive 3) boot computer04:11
rob_newbieYes 1st04:12
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mlacage_rob_newbie, make sure you remove any floppy in the floppy drive too. this can't hurt04:12
rob_newbieIt is set up like that04:12
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clem_yeatsmlacage_: I hurt my finger once like that..04:12
mlacage_so, you insert the cd in the drive, what _exact_ error do you get ?04:12
roham_!pastebin04:12
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:13
rob_newbieatempting...04:13
displaguegmoore: it looks like that conf file expects ruby scripts to be run from /ruby in the document root -- extensions .rbx only (maybe)04:13
mlacage_rob_newbie, can you hear the cdrom drive trying to read the cdrom ?04:13
filip_is it someone that use shockwave?04:13
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michelefilip_, macromedia doesn't do a shockwave plugin for linux04:14
computergeeim having trouble with the nvidia drivers, every time i reboot or restartx, o have to reinstall, im running ubuntu04:14
benjamin1254:'(04:14
rob_newbieStates "Missing operating system"04:14
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guydebordjust tryed to install gimp help-eng with cmd  sudo apt-get install gimp help-eng. Received a messageCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and unable to unlock adm dir. Maybe cuz synaptic is still open will retry now.04:15
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gmooredisplague: ahh, makes sense. ok, done. should there be an addtype .rb in that conf somewhere? i don't see one04:15
mlacage_rob_newbie, are you sure the cdrom drive is spinning and doing some noises ?04:15
filip_Michel: okey. that is bad now i can play poker on internet.04:15
displaguegmoore: there is .rbx, and some commented out stuff04:15
azriel0184can i load a kernel module after bootup?04:15
rob_newbieYes I can feel it spinning04:15
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mlacage_rob_newbie, where did you get that cd from ?04:15
displagueazriel0184 : modprobe modulename04:15
lesshasteazriel0184: yes.. modprobe04:15
mlacage_rob_newbie, every linux cd I know of is bootable04:16
Hoxzerhow do they usually end a letter in England?04:16
mlacage_rob_newbie, maybe you should try to boot this CD from another computer to make sure it is a bootable cd.04:16
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mlacage_rob_newbie, other than that, I am at a loss04:16
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displagueazriel0184 : the modules available live in /lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel ... you can generally "modinfo -p modulename" to get options (leave the .so or .ko off when using modprobe or rmmod, but not when using insmod)04:17
rob_newbieWell I have tried it with a linux, college linux, redhat, ubuntu, win95,win xp.  all of wich I have installed befor on other systems and were bootable04:17
gmooredisplague: so what should i be uncommenting now? i'm unsure about this04:17
roham_!pastebin04:18
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:18
rob_newbieall it states is Missing operating system04:18
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lesshasterob_newbie: what exactly is the problem?04:18
mlacage_rob_newbie, try to revert the bios to its default settings.04:18
mlacage_rob_newbie, honestly, this kind of error usually comes because the bios is trying to read the HD and the boot record of the HD is corrupted.04:19
displaguecomputergee: when you install the nvidia drivers (from X), you won't see the affects right away... You should make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before doing this (the install of the nvidia drivers may already do this)... If X stops working you just copy the backup file back and you should be ok... to test the nvidia drivers without quiting your working X, try doing "X :1" from a shell.. if it works you will see a black and white screen wi04:19
gmooredisplague: ah, now i get 'forbidden' when i try to open a .rbx on my server. i guess that means i'm getting somewhere.04:19
dabearHi, IS it at all possible to convert a ntfs station to ext2/3/reiser without loosing data?04:19
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mlacage_rob_newbie, so, here, it should not happen because you boot from the CD.04:20
displaguecomputergee: to return to your working x... but oh well, you are gone04:20
guydebordeverything fine now with gimp help. Thanks everyone04:20
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rob_newbiedo I just load previous values in bios04:20
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rob_newbieI see04:20
displaguegmoore: may want to check the permission on the file - make sure www-data can get in on  group acess or other access  (chmod -R g+r,o+r ruby/)04:21
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gmoorewell test.rb is in the documentroot and i can open test.php fine, but not test.rb04:21
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rob_newbielesshaste; I hava CTX Ezbook 700 and it was formated befor I got it.  Now I cannot boot from cd to install an operating system04:22
displaguedabear: backup to somewhere else, then restore.. ntfs is not 100% safely supported... there are tools to try it - but i wouldn't recommend them04:22
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spolahow do i move a file named (eg) readme.txt to readme_X.txt (where X is the first "free number")?04:22
dabeardisplague: Ok, so there are no other possibilities? Idon't have another 100Gib available..04:23
Seveasspola, that'll be hard...04:23
Seveas(to do automagically)04:23
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spolaperhaps i should ask in bash04:23
rob_newbieOk nothing sucessfull on reloadinf values still stuck not booting a cd04:23
displaguedabear: there is a package called convertfs - but go into this thinking you just lost 100gb of ntfs data before starting04:23
SeveasI think a perl script is more reasonable spola :)04:23
Seveasalthough...04:24
spolai only need to know how to seperate the extension and filename actually04:24
gmooredisplague: it seems to be forbidden no matter what i chmod it as... just tried chmod 777 test.rb and i still can't open it in my browser04:24
displaguegmoore : 666 and 777 are evil - don't ever do that04:24
dabearok, thx, then I just have to boot windows each time I want to alter the data stored on that partition:(04:24
gmooredisplague: k.04:24
displaguegmoore : aside from that, the forbidden is coming from something else.. hmmm04:24
gmoorehttp://titaniumone.mine.nu/test.php04:25
gmoorethat works fine... test.rb is in the same dir04:25
gmoorehttp://titaniumone.mine.nu/test.rb04:25
spolaSeveas, do you know perl?04:25
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Seveasa bit, but I prefer python usually :)04:25
wickedpuppyhmms ... python is in rage04:26
wickedpuppyguido did a good job with it04:26
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displaguegmoore: you have to put it in /ruby under the apache document root (did you see my message earlier... so most likely /var/www/ruby)04:27
rob_newbieWell anyone like the weird type computer problems?04:27
spolapython is pretty cool... but i'd prefer bash for shell scripting because you can usually assume it's there04:27
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displaguegmoore: if you want it in your server root, you should copy the conf file into your <virtualhost> block04:28
gmooreoops, i think i screwed up a chmod because i'm getting this now. how do i fix it? ;)04:28
gmooresudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 044004:28
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displaguegmoore: sorry, virtual server root04:28
gmoorei typed this by mistake, hehe > sudo chmod -R g+r,o+r ./04:28
displaguegmoore: what path were you in?  you may have done a great deal of damage04:28
gmoore/mnt/storage/www04:29
gmooreempty dir except test.php test.rb04:29
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reiki_workquestion regarding spam blocking and Evolution. I install Spamassassin, but that doesn't "just simply work" with Evolution. It appears there are ways to MAKE it work, but they seem kludgey. Is there a better solution for spam blocking in Evolution? Hopefully something where you just install a package and maybe do a minor config? The junk mail filters in Evolution are not sufficient.   Thanks!04:29
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Olyhi i am a little trouble with a sata hard disk i just installed, i have mounted & partitioned it fine but am getting errors from e2fsck04:29
spolagmoore, that shuldn't have caused any troubler then04:29
vitriolreiki_work: not really04:30
Olywhich says something like this, The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext204:30
vitriolreiki_work: you can set up filters in evolution04:30
gmooreit changed the chmod of sudo or something, every time i use sudo now i get this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 044004:30
pauloubuntu para portugues brasil pleace04:30
reiki_workvitriol: heheh.... that's not very encouraging :)04:30
Seveas!br04:30
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.04:30
paulobr04:30
Olyits formatted as an ext3 partition so why its checking it as ext 2 i have no idea04:30
vitriolreiki_work: there is a bount out for writing a good bayesian filter for thunderbird04:30
vitriolreiki_work: if you're interested and talented ;)04:30
Olythe boot process stops and says press ctrl + d to continue04:30
displaguegmoore: that should have affected /etc/sudoers -- are you sure? ls -al /etc/shadow, should read rw-r----- if there is an extra "r" then the chmod did a little too much work04:30
Seveasspola, an 11 line bash script solves your problem04:30
Olybecause of this, any one got any ideas as to the cause / fix ?04:31
vitriolreiki_work: may others have complained about the poor spam filtering capabilities in their mail clients04:31
gmoore-rw-r--r--  1 root shadow04:31
reiki_workvitriol: a "bount"? I don't mind a little experimenting04:31
gmooreuh oh :(04:31
displaguegmoore: chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers04:31
vitriolreiki_work: bounty....cash reward for writing the software04:31
Seveasspola, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/136504:31
vitriolreiki_work: $500USD i think04:31
displaguegmoore: the rest of your files need to be locked down04:31
reiki_workvitriol:  ah!  hahaha... afraid I'm not a coder04:31
gmooregarrett@opti:/mnt/storage/www$ sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers04:31
gmooreisnt working04:31
spolaSeveas, thanks a million times dude04:31
vitriolreiki_work: the only mail client i've ever successfully used spamassasin with04:31
vitriolwas mutt04:31
gmoorenm did su and now it's okay04:32
Seveasspola, you need to change line 8 -- you'll see why :)04:32
alex__I have just installed pd with synaptic04:32
gmoorewhat do you mean the rest of my files need to be locked down? did it mess up the permissions of the entire system or something? D:04:32
alex__but here we go04:32
vitriolmutt (1)             - The Mutt Mail User Agent04:32
alex__alex@ubu:~$ pd04:32
alex__ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file o r directory04:32
alex__Segmentation fault04:32
alex__alex@ubu:~$ pd_gui: pd process exited04:32
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reiki_workvitriol: I used a spam blocker on my WinXP setup that basically sat between my mail client and the pop server. It works rather well. Maybe I can find similar for Ubuntu04:32
spolaSeveas, np ... the guys in #bash just told me how to extract file and extension from a filename (${filename##*.} and  ${filename%.*})04:32
vitriolreiki_work: good luck. i hope you find one :)04:32
displaguegmoore : aye... your password files can be read by anonmous web crackers now... or any other user on the system...04:33
arpheticIs there a possibility to connect a computer with Inet through an USB connection wth an other pc?04:33
gmooredisplague: how would i fix that then? as you can see i am very new to linux :(04:33
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shekharhello my sound has gone off, how to get it back on?04:34
vitriolshekhar: alsamixer04:34
vitriolshekhar: you have to use it on the command line04:34
vitriolshekhar: you probably just need to unmute your sound in alsamixer04:34
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vitriolgah....well if you have an alsa card.....04:35
vitriolmaybe not everyone has alsamixer :|04:35
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shekharalsamixer is on04:35
thoreauputicvitriol: alsamixer is installed by default :)04:36
arpheticIs there a possibility to connect a computer with Inet through an USB connection wth an other pc?04:36
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gmooredisplague: ?04:36
shekharalsamixer not doing anything04:36
displaguegmoore: I can send you a script to set the permissions back based on my system, but since we have different packages installed some file may be left more readable than they used to be - but very few files are locked down so that group and other can not read them04:36
gmooredisplague: thats ok, and i would appreciate it04:37
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displaguegmoore: email address04:37
gmooregarrettmoore@gmail.com04:37
mrstarkweatherhow does one "log in as the root user"?04:37
gmoorethanks a lot04:37
wickedpuppy!root04:37
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:37
Karhutongmoore, you could reinstall lot of the packages04:37
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KarhutonDisabled?04:37
KarhutonI just did: sudo password04:37
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Karhuton:\04:37
wickedpuppythats sudo04:37
wickedpuppynot root04:37
wickedpuppy:P04:37
Karhuton*passwd, I meant04:37
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wickedpuppydifferent things altogether04:38
shekharhow do i unmute sound?04:38
Mahasiswahi04:38
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Karhutonwickedpuppy, you didn't understand04:38
onkarshindeI know that this is not a windows forum, but I have heard on this channel that a particular free antivirus program is best of all. Can someone recall it for me?04:38
wickedpuppywhich part ?04:38
Karhutonwickedpuppy, after setting root password, using 'su' and other stuff hasn't been a problem..04:38
thoreauputicshekhar: try hitting "m" on each channel : if you see mm it's muted04:38
Mahasiswawhere am i?04:38
mrstarkweatherHow do I log in as the root user???04:39
thoreauputicMahasiswa: the ubuntu help channel?04:39
wickedpuppyKarhuton, .. if you tried other distros .. you know what i mean04:39
Karhutonwickedpuppy, I have. I don't understand how 'root' is disabled :\04:39
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Mahasiswaand where's evry one..?04:39
roham_If i wanna update GAIM, can I download the newiest version and just do the ./configure and make ? I dont need to uninstall the old version first?04:39
wickedpuppyin other distros there is no need to sudo ... just su - and enter the root pass04:40
pefhi04:40
Karhutonroham_, if you configure it to install it to /usr/local, then no04:40
thoreauputicMahasiswa: there are 483 people in the channel - what do you mean?04:40
Karhutonwickedpuppy, lol. Sudo is easier to use than su. It's preferred in other distros too04:40
wickedpuppyreal ?04:40
wickedpuppyup to you04:40
wickedpuppyi prefer to enter root shell when i do sys config04:40
onkarshindeHey Ubutnu users, please help me with a windows question. Which is the best free antivirus for windows?04:41
wickedpuppynot sudo all my commands04:41
Karhutonwickedpuppy, I use in .bashrc: alias S='sudo'04:41
wickedpuppyonkarshinde, try #windows04:41
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michelewickedpuppy, sudo -s04:41
clem_yeatswickedpuppy: because you are root and you know what to do.04:41
thoreauputiconkarshinde: how would we know?04:41
Seveaswickedpuppy, sudo -i04:41
Seveas(sudo -s is dangerous)04:41
wickedpuppyoh boy04:41
Belutzonkarshinde: i use avast :D04:41
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genniohi04:41
wickedpuppybut -s gives ya the root env ...04:41
clem_yeatshi gennio04:41
Mahasiswathoreauputic...I get loss...what this place name's..?04:41
Karhutonwickedpuppy, typing 'sudo' all the time gets annoying. But using an easy alias helps04:41
wickedpuppyoh nvm ... its OT04:42
Seveaswickedpuppy, -s does not reset $HOME and $USER04:42
Seveas-i does04:42
gennioi don't have conection in ubuntu :S04:42
gennio:'(04:42
Seveas(it's logically equivalent to -s -H)04:42
thoreauputicMahasiswa:  #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net04:42
onkarshindewickedpuppy: thoreauputic: because I have heard that name on this channel lot many times. Jut unable to recall.04:42
roham_Karhuton: why local? its the one that comes with Ubuntu... and I think its in /usr/bin04:42
clem_yeatskarhuton: the thing is, one should not have to be root "all the time"04:42
gennioclem_yeats hi :)04:42
roham_Karhuton: so I need to uninstall it first?04:42
wickedpuppysorry Seveas ... i meant sudo -04:43
wickedpuppyno s04:43
Karhutonroham_, it's good to install all locally compiled stuff into /usr/local04:43
gennioi have router zyxel and target dlink04:43
wickedpuppyi mean su -04:43
thoreauputiconkarshinde: AVG perhaps? I don't use windows...04:43
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genniohelp me ! :(04:43
Seveaswickedpuppy, sudo su - works too :D04:43
wickedpuppyok i am sleepy .. nites04:43
wickedpuppylol04:43
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roham_Karhuton: ok... but it dosnt do it by default right? I need to define it when I do the make?04:43
Karhutonroham_, depending on your PATH env variable, the binarys in /usr/local/bin are preferred over /usr/bin etc.04:43
Karhutonroham_, Type "./configure --help" It usually tells you how04:44
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Karhutonroham_, Also ALWAYS read the 'README' or 'INSTALL' files when compiling04:44
Karhutonroham_, some developers like to use different systems04:44
roham_karhuton: ok04:44
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Karhutonroham_, but propably ./configure --prefix=/usr/local works04:44
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roham_Karhuton: why dosnt ubuntu put the new gaim version in apt-get?04:45
matthewOn a default Hoary install, what do I need in order to play MP3's?04:45
kemikroham_:  use backports04:45
Karhutonroham_, then when you want to start the 'new' gaim, just run /usr/local/bin/gaim04:45
kemik!backports04:45
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section04:45
clem_yeats!xmms-mp304:45
ubotuclem_yeats: Are you smoking crack?04:45
clem_yeatsno04:45
clem_yeats!mp304:45
ubotuwell, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support04:45
Karhutonroham_, or use a backport :)04:45
genniosomebody help me ?04:45
roham_whats backport? :P04:45
KarhutonRead what 'kemik' wrote, and 'ubotu's' answer04:46
roham_Karhuton: hehe whats backport ? :P <-newbie04:46
wickedpuppy!backport04:46
ubotubackport is probably see !backports04:46
clem_yeatsgennio : wifi link ?04:46
wickedpuppy!backports04:46
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section04:46
roham_heh dont give me much04:46
gennioI do not have connection with ubuntu04:46
clem_yeatsgennio : connection to what ?04:46
gennioclem_yeats no.. router zyxel and target dlink04:46
kemik!repositories04:46
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:46
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chmurihi04:47
gennioclem_yeats ADSL04:47
clem_yeatsgennio : I don't understand..04:47
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chmuri:)04:47
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kemikroham_:  follow that and get the location of hoary-backports04:47
NeoMachi everyone04:47
kemikroham_:  did you solve the ethernet-cable issue?04:47
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clem_yeatsgennio : you want to access the internet through a wifi adsl router ?04:47
roham_kemik: yes04:47
kemikroham_:  what was the problem ?04:47
roham_kemik: its was the interfaces file...04:47
Seveasroham_, for instance Ubuntu will not upgrade gaim for hoary. If you want a newer version, you can use a backport04:47
NeoMacenyone help me to install linux on my mac04:47
roham_kemik: some mapping was not there04:47
chmuriwhen 5.10 ubuntu relase??:)04:48
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clem_yeatsNeoMac: what's the problem ?04:48
roham_Seveas: is it on the webpage?04:48
KarhutonIs there a wiki which explains the repository naming scheme? Universe,multiverse and likes seem odd to an Debian user04:48
kissmemorehello04:48
NeoMaci was downloaded the linux operation system on ubuntu04:48
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NeoMacbut it doesnt works04:48
roham_!backports04:48
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section04:48
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gennioclem_yeats :S04:49
NeoMaci use mac os x04:49
clem_yeatsNeoMac : you downloaded the iso file of Ubuntu and burnt a CD with it ?04:49
NeoMacyes04:49
benjamin1254neomac u sure ur connection wasent interupted by chance04:49
roham_I dont get the backports thing :(04:49
clem_yeatsNeoMac: then boot on the CD04:49
volatile_ok, nomatter what I do04:49
volatile_mplayer doesn't work on my system :/04:49
NeoMacboot on cd?04:49
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Karhutonroham_, that's because you don't know how librarys and software versions work04:49
clem_yeatsNeoMac: yes...04:49
NeoMachow?04:50
NeoMac:)04:50
clem_yeatsNeoMac: insert the cd in the player, and restart the computer.04:50
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Karhutonroham_, backports means just newer versions of the apps you like made compatible for the older system you're using04:50
NeoMacyes i do that04:50
roham_Karhuton: I even dont know if its a webpage or application that show me that info04:50
NeoMacbut it doesnt works04:50
clem_yeatsNeoMac: change the BIOS settings so that your machine boots on the CDROM04:50
kemikroham_:  search for "backports" on the wiki04:50
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NeoMacbios how can i change04:51
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gennioclem_yeats --> 0000:02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)04:51
clem_yeatsNeoMac : usually F2 or F1 at boot screen04:51
tarvidtulip driver doesn't do the job on HP laptop, the chipset is an ADMTek Centaur-P, is there a better driver?04:51
clem_yeatsgennio : you want to access the internet through a wifi adsl router ?04:51
NeoMachmm but i use mac os x04:51
NeoMacyes i have adsl04:52
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clem_yeatsNeoMac : this has nothing to do with MacOs X04:52
thoreauputicNeoMac: to boot from CD on a mac hold down "c"04:52
NeoMacbu i download it for powerpc04:52
NeoMaci have os 904:52
clem_yeatsNeoMac : hmm...04:52
NeoMacyes i know04:52
NeoMacit doesnt work04:53
clem_yeatswhat does it say ?04:53
NeoMacnothing says04:53
gennioclem_yeats--->I do not have connection with ubuntu not because.  it does not detect the connection to me04:53
NeoMacit starts os x normaly04:53
clem_yeatsgennio : I repeat my question for the 3rd time..04:53
clem_yeatsgennio : you want to access the internet through a wifi adsl router ?04:53
gennioclem_yeats no04:54
clem_yeatsgennio : explain what you want to do04:54
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soadcan somebody help me? i have ubuntu installation problems?04:54
NeoMacthe system dont see system in cd04:54
clem_yeatssoad: just ask04:54
chmuriwhyes04:54
NeoMacme too04:54
chmuriyes soad04:54
chmuri:) what problem04:54
chmuri:)04:54
clem_yeatsNeoMac : your CD could have been badly burnt, or your ISO file wrongly downloaded. Try to get a md5sum prog for mac os x and check the quality of your iso file04:55
gennioclem_yeats-->not ingles.  in the Spanish channel nobody helps me04:55
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clem_yeatsgennio : Yo hablo espanol04:56
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gennioclem_yeats wuau :)04:56
NeoMacmd5sum where i can find it04:56
clem_yeatsgennio : Tenia mucha suerte :))04:56
Sauron21Hi....I was wondering if there was anyway I could get a command to run on boot up right before the login screen??04:56
gennioclem_yeats nadie me ayuda en el espa?ol..04:56
KarhutonIs there a wiki which explains the repository naming scheme? Universe,multiverse and likes seem odd to an Debian user04:56
genniosi si04:56
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clem_yeatsgennio : pero no hablo bien... solamente un poquito04:56
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gennioclem_yeats jaja mira lo que pasa es que tengo una tarjeta dlink normal.. no es wifi y un router zyxel 645 que me puso la empresa telefonica04:57
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NeoMachey where i can ffind that program04:57
genniopero no me detecta la conexion creo k no le asigna las IP o algo04:57
gennio:S04:57
Seveasgennio, please stick to english in here.04:57
francisplease help !!! how do i disable the lines that follow when windows r minimized in ubuntu 5.0404:57
displaguegmoore: you are also using debian/ubuntu - so much of the work is already done for you -- and debian/ubuntu have preferences to where these changes should go -- like in /etc/apache2/conf.d or in the mods-blah dires04:57
gennioSeveas sorry04:58
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kissmemorehello04:58
kissmemorewho call help me04:59
francisplease help !!! how do i disable the lines that follow when windows r minimized in ubuntu 5.0404:59
kissmemoreHelp Me04:59
Seveasfrancis, Set the gconf key /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources to true with gconf-editor04:59
Seveas!helpme04:59
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.04:59
Seveas^-- kissmemore04:59
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kissmemoreen04:59
NgSeveas: it did ask a question ;)04:59
francisSeveas, let me try that05:00
mojo333Is anyone here using openbox?05:00
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alex__everytime I reboot my machine I have to change the DNS address in my network configuration05:01
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SeveasNg, i saw none...05:01
alex__I use a DHCP server and the DNS address is set to 192.168.0.105:01
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alex__that makes sense since my router is going to provide the gateway to the dns server05:01
alex__but still it does not work05:02
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NgSeveas: ah well05:02
Seveasalex__, if your router is not a dns server it makes no sense :)05:02
alex__it has to be in the dns field of my Network configuration05:02
mojo333... does anyone use any window managers besides metacity and openbox?05:02
alex__Seveas: my router provide an dns IP05:02
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arpheticAnyone can help me with my sound support problems?05:03
thoreauputicmojo333: sure, I use fluxbox (but stand alone, not with gnome)05:03
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alex__so I guess the fact to have the IP of the router in my DNS settings, means "ask the router" that will ask the dns server05:03
mojo333will it work with gnome?05:03
Seveasalex__, I've seen nothing but probles using such a setup with my router :)05:03
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alex__what do you mean ?05:04
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thoreauputicmojo333: I don't know - never tried it with gnome05:04
b2smojo333: xfce is the best! :)05:04
alex__I first started to put the dns IP in the ubuntu settings but each time I reboot it get erase and replace by the IP of my router ?05:04
alex__!05:04
ubotualex__: What?05:04
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alex__ubotu: my ISP has provided me with an dns IP address05:05
ubotualex__: Do they come in packets of five?05:05
alex__packet of five ?05:05
srijiththat was funny alex__ and ubotu :)05:05
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thoreauputicalex__: it's a bot (ubotu)05:05
setitehow do i check my cpu speed05:05
setitecat something05:05
gilvis it possible to read camera memory card on ubuntu ? (i put the memory card into my computer but nothing happend)05:05
alex__ah05:05
alex__of course05:05
lpkhttp://tohveli.net/opera.reg05:05
lpkARGH05:05
lpkSorry! Wrong paste! :(05:06
alex__so how can I do to avoid resetting the dns in my settings each time I reboot05:06
srijithgilv, you used a USB card reader to "put the memory card"?05:06
alex__how can I prevent the daemon to overwrite it05:06
setitefound it05:06
clem_yeatsalex__: your daemon writes in /etc/resolv.conf ?05:07
gilvsrijith: no my computer already has a place (socket?) to put it in05:07
Seveasalex__, edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient/conf05:07
srijithalex__, late comer to the conversation, but isn't the dns setting usually filled in by your dhcpclient05:07
osfaaaarrrgghhh!05:07
Seveasdon't make it request domain-name-server and add a line to append your own05:07
osfaHas anyone got any pointers (heh) for my touchpad problem?05:07
osfawhereby mouse-up is interpreted as mouse-click after moving the pointer clickly05:07
osfaoops05:07
osfaquickly even :-)05:08
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srijithgilv, cd /media .. do you see any possiblly connected directories?05:08
gilvsrijith: no, only the cdrom05:08
TychoI'm trying to compile dosbox, but have trouble setting the PATH variable to my newly compiled SDL libraries. Can someone help me?05:08
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srijithgilv: and /mnt ?05:08
gilvsrijith: neither05:09
srijithhmm.. do you know for a fact that ubuntu had the drivers for your reader?05:09
srijithwhat kind of a machine do you have?05:09
alex__srijith: yes that is true but ubuntu apparently do not use it05:09
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clem_yeatstycho : did you try ldconfig05:10
WaterSevenUbcan anyone tell me how in GNOME terminal shells we can put a bell (like in Kde) warning that something changed in that shell? I'm using hoary05:10
michelegilv, open the users and groups admin panel05:10
gilvsrijith: i have an hp pavilion, i don't know if ubuntu has the driver for the card driver05:10
srijithgilv: the 6in1 reader?05:10
srijithgilv: as far as I know Ubuntu does not support that reader05:11
clem_yeatsgilv : http://www.linux-laptop.net/05:11
gilvsrijith: i don't know, it's a multi card reader05:11
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srijithalex__: which file btw are you looking at for your dns settings?05:11
francis_Seveas, hey sorry i got dc my battrey went low05:12
michelethe hal user needs to be added to the plugdev group. it wasn't in my installation05:12
michelefor the card reader I mean05:12
francis_Seveas, thanks  a lot worked like a charm05:12
Seveas:)05:12
Seveasnice05:12
alex__srijith: I use the GUI but now I will try to write directly in the /etc/resolv.conf05:12
gilvmichele: so you think it should work ?05:12
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Tychoclem_yeats: I just tryed it. Still doesn't work. Maybe something went wrong compilind SDL. Is there a way to verify?05:12
pittigilv, michele: oh, you installed a normal system and hal didn't have the correct groups?05:12
francis_Seveas, could u help me configure the firewall [ firestater ] 05:12
srijithalex: asking because my dhclient call updates the resolv.conf file properly, nicely05:13
michelepitti, yes05:13
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francis_Seveas, and how reliable is it05:13
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clem_yeatstycho : did you try installing from the packages ?05:13
michelegilv, if the reader is a normal mass-storage, yes05:13
pittimichele: that's odd - how did you install? breezy, hoary upgrade, etc.?05:13
gilvpitti: i don't understand the question05:13
srijithalex__, could it be your dhcp server?05:13
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Seveasfrancis_, what do you need the firewall for? (it's very reliable)05:13
michelepitti, hoary, from scratch iirc05:13
pittigilv: automounting doesn't work for you?05:13
gilvmichele: could you tell me how to make it work ?05:13
gilvpitti: it should work, can i check it somewhere ?05:13
francis_Seveas, just to get my machine secure05:14
pittigilv: nevermind, I just saw michele talking to you about hal groups05:14
Bryan29556I got some files in my trash that will not empty using the GUI (using ubuntu, gnome), anyone know the syntax from doing it from the terminal?05:14
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alex__srijith: well it works fine with my two other box05:14
Seveasfrancis_, it's secure by default :)05:14
francis_Seveas, i just tryed it but i blocked all  traffice05:14
Tychoclem_yeats: Couldn't find a amd64 package05:14
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francis_Seveas, blacked all traffic05:14
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srijithmichele: you got the HP laptop card reader to work? Hm.. that has got my attention..05:15
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michelesrijith, no. that's an external usb one. don't have hp05:15
Corvushi05:15
srijithmichele: gilv was talking of the internal one05:16
clem_yeatstycho : oh ok.05:16
Seveassrijith, the sd card readers in HP laptops have no linux drivers05:16
clem_yeatstycho : so you did : make and make install05:16
srijithSeveas: so I thought too..05:16
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micheleor better05:16
Tychoclem_yeats: ./configure; make; make install  yes05:16
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gilvsrijith, michele: yes, that's an internal multi-card driver05:16
clem_yeatstycho : where did it put your library files ?05:17
gilvsrijith, michele: most of new laptops have it now05:17
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mojo333can anyone tell me where to change the metacity themes?05:17
srijithgilv: I think you are out of luck in that.. no linux driver for that.. I am stuck with one too myself on my nc612005:17
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francis_hey could some help me configure the firewall [ firestater ]  i tried and it blocked all traffice05:17
Tychoclem_yeats: Somewhere in my home directory05:17
gilvsrijith: do you think it will take time before having it on ubuntu ?05:18
thoreauputicfrancis_: did you usethe wizard?05:18
francis_thoreauputic,  i did05:18
srijithgilv: I have no idea... am not too optimistic05:18
Tychoclem_yeats: /home/tycho/Spiele/SDL-1.2.8  to be exact05:18
clem_yeatstycho : ok that's not the place where you want them.05:18
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francis_thoreauputic, but i did not create any rules for me05:18
thoreauputicfrancis_: hmm - works here but I'm using dialup05:18
clem_yeatstycho : but it doesn't matter for now.05:19
yhonatancan i get help about gnome in this channel?05:19
yhonatan(i use ubuntu..)05:19
Tychoclem_yeats: Ok, where should I put them?05:19
francis_thoreauputic, me too05:19
clem_yeatstycho : leave them here for the moment05:19
Tychoclem_yeats: Ok05:19
francis_thoreauputic, connected using my GPRS05:19
clem_yeatstycho : open the file /etc/ld.so.conf05:19
thoreauputicfrancis_: wereyou online when you configured it?05:19
francis_thoreauputic, no05:19
Tychoclem_yeats: done05:20
clem_yeatstycho : at the bottom of the file, add the directory : /home/tycho/Spiele/SDL-1.2.805:20
francis_thoreauputic, should i try to d it again05:20
yhonatancan i change  Applications Places System to other words?05:20
thoreauputicfrancis_: ah GPRS... I know nothing about that, sorry - but try running it while online05:20
clem_yeatstycho : that tells it where to find the libs05:20
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clem_yeatstycho : then save the file, and run "ldconfig"05:20
francis_thoreauputic, gprs is like dial up .. just that its from a cell phone05:20
Tychoclem_yeats: Done05:20
thoreauputicfrancis_: it should recognise the device you are connecte to the internet with05:20
clem_yeatstycho : that updates the lib path.05:20
thoreauputic*connected05:21
Tychoclem_yeats: ./configure has still problems finding them05:21
francis_thoreauputic, it does05:21
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Corvusanyone can tell me abotu a good proxy server ?05:21
thoreauputicfrancis_: well here it configures ppp0 and connection sharing (NAT)05:21
clem_yeatswhat's in /home/tycho/Spiele/SDL-1.2.8 ?05:21
francis_thoreauputic, i am using ppp0 myself05:22
Tychoclem_yeats: The source (and the compiled libraries I hope)05:22
francis_thoreauputic, but how do i create the rules05:22
yhonatansome one?:\05:22
thoreauputicfrancis_: most likely you chose some inappropriate option - the defaults are pretty much all you need IIRC05:22
thoreauputicfrancis_: why do you need a firewall?05:23
francis_thoreauputic, could u please show me what ur policyies look like05:23
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francis_thoreauputic, i manage the college network and we r not getting a broadband internet connection05:24
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Tychoclem_yeats: I'm not sure where make install put the libraries or even how linux libraries would look like05:24
francis_thoreauputic, i want to secure the lan which works on windows05:24
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thoreauputicah05:24
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thoreauputicfrancis_: if you are protecting a college lan why don't you use a dedicated box with smoothwall or ipcop?05:25
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francis_thoreauputic, NO MACHINES TO SPARE05:26
francis_thoreauputic, can i use it on my linux box itself05:26
thoreauputicfrancis_: you can install it on an old box froma dumpster ;)05:26
thoreauputicfrancis_: smoothie or ipcop needs a dedicated box - but it can be an old one05:27
francis_thoreauputic, so which one do u sugest smoothwall or the ipcop ??05:27
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thoreauputicfrancis_: they are very similar (ipcop is a fork of smoothwall)05:27
alex__it works Thansk Seveas05:27
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francis_thoreauputic, o ok .... thanks for that05:28
thoreauputicfrancis_: smoothwall is the original - there's a GPL version05:28
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seliniumhi thoreauputic05:28
thoreauputicfrancis: you'll need two nics in that box IIRC05:29
seliniumAnyone here any good with bluetooth?05:29
thoreauputicselinium: greetings :)05:29
Seveasyw alex__05:29
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_rolandohi05:30
_rolandodo i have to edit some file to get new repositories?05:30
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francis_thoreauputic, hey can i use it on the linux box which i am using to share my internet connection .. no one will be using it05:30
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thoreauputicfrancis_: not really, unless you don't mind wiping the whole hard drive for it05:30
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thoreauputicfrancis_: smoothwall uses the whole drive05:31
kemik!tell _rolando about repositories05:31
thoreauputicfrancis_: in other words the smoothie box is *purely* a firewall/router05:32
D-N-AHi : yesterday i downloaded ubuntu on my hard drive " i lost 34 gigas of my drive for this damn installion" plz i wanna instal ubuntu on my pc with my windows system , in one drive of linux not the wohole hard drive. plz any one help and guide me to the instalion05:32
TychoDoes anyone know what to apt-get install if I want the SDL libraries?05:33
dk156_MoronousExtremis here        Somehow I removed/deleted my workspace icon/chooser on my taskbar! doi! any help - cant seem to find it05:33
francis_thoreauputic, o ok .. then i think i will stick with the ubuntu firewall an work on configuring it coz there r no free boxes05:33
thoreauputicfrancis_: http://www.smoothwall.org/05:33
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kemikTycho:  apt-cache search sdl05:33
Tychokemik: Thanks05:33
kemikTycho:  or even "libsdl"05:34
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D-N-A?05:34
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francis_thoreauputic, hey also wheni connect using putty from windows to the ssh server y do i get a 10 second delay when for it to ask me for the password05:35
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thoreauputicfrancis_: no idea, sorry - never used putty and I don't have windows here05:35
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candybanHi guys ...05:35
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candybanI think I'm going nuts ... I can't seem to get "midi" to work on my Linux box05:36
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candybanI have an SB Live ...05:36
thoreauputiccandyban: heheh - it isn't trivial...05:36
Seveascandyban, installed timidity & freepats?05:36
thoreauputicSeveas: that's my line!05:36
thoreauputic;)05:36
D-N-Ai wanna select one drive on my hard device to download ubuntu on it05:36
candybanSeveas: yeah, but that's not "real" midi ...05:37
D-N-Aplzzz help !05:37
francis_thoreauputic, how long have u been into linux05:37
thoreauputicfrancis: about 3 years05:37
francis_thoreauputic, cool05:37
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Seveascandyban, true...05:37
candybanthoreauputic: It used to work perfectly on Mandrake 7.1 (with my AWE64) back in the days ... just run sndconfig and everything worked like a charm05:37
SeveasBut it's the limit of my midi knowledge..05:38
francis_thoreauputic, i have been working with it for abt 6 months now and i must say LiNuX RoCkS05:38
kemikD-N-A: download the iso, burn to cd... partitiion your drive so you have a free partition for ubuntu. reboot computer from CD and install05:38
candybanI can't imagine 5 of 6 years later it's impossible to get the same type of card to work ...05:38
thoreauputiccandyban: yeah - I have a crappy onboard sound card here ;)05:38
thoreauputiccandyban: getting midi to work on my card was ... interesting05:38
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seliniumcandyban: have you got the soundfonts?05:38
candybanthoreauputic, I have that too ... but I thought (hoped/expected?) to have my SB Live working properly05:38
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candybanselinium: yeah ... I can play it with timidity ... but not with e.g. kmid and other players05:39
D-N-Ai'm already partioned my drive with ntfs for windows i don't want to loss any inform. again just i wanna download it on my drive with windows system which i downloaded before like slackware and lilo05:39
D-N-A:)05:39
thoreauputicfrancis_: welcome to the Free World ;-)05:39
candybanselinium: I thought the soundcard had it's own sound-fonts?05:39
seliniumusing freepats? or have you downloaded some soundfonts?05:39
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candybanselinium: freepats05:40
dk156_Q:)   where does a noob go to find out where to re-install the "workspace" choose icon in th taskbar?05:40
Seveasdk156_, rightclick on the taskbar and click on add to taskbar05:40
thoreauputicdk156: the noob right clicks the panel and chooses the applet from th list ;)05:40
Seveasand select workspace changer (someting like that) in the window that appears05:40
francis_thoreauputic, yea men linux is the future .. already branded computers for commercial purposes are coming with linux .. its rules and is amazing  .. the possiblities r endless05:41
seliniumcandyban: i beleive the soundfonts are bundled in the drivers. but as the drivers are not proprietory you don't get them.05:41
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D-N-Aunderstand :)05:41
dk156_Danka!     Zer Gut!05:41
candybanselinium: but when I try to play a midi it says some devices are not mapped and therefor cannot be heared ... I mean come on ... how come all this stuff worked with 1 simple command for a n00b 5 years ago ... and now (with 5 years of Linux experience under my belt) I can't get it to work in what is considdered today to be the most user-friendly distro?05:41
candybanThis is just surreal (to me)05:42
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dk156_I've got alot 2 learn05:42
Karhutondk156, 'to'05:42
thoreauputiccandyban: I agree - ubuntu's midi support is lacking IMO05:42
dk156_yes sir05:42
seliniumcandyban: I think, that midi has fallen of the 'to do' list. It is considered to be a minority subject and therefore not bundled from the begining.  :(05:43
seliniumIMHO05:43
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normanhallo?05:43
thoreauputicselinium: as in "Midi is *So* 1999" ? <grin>05:44
candybanselinium: Most websites which use sounds are midi files ... karaoke files are also midi files ...05:44
D-N-Aplz help isn't it a help channel05:44
concept10MIDI in linux is a pain, you cant expect for the distro to be tailored to it, there are distros out there for it05:44
Karhutonthoreauputic, more like 199005:44
francis_D-N-A, WHATS UP05:44
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concept10he means playing MIDI through a website?05:44
D-N-Ayesterday i downloaded ubuntu on my hard drive " i lost 34 gigas of my drive for this damn installion" plz i wanna instal ubuntu on my pc with my windows system , in one drive of linux not the wohole hard drive. plz any one help and guide me to the instalion05:44
candybanthoreauputic: doesn't matter if it's 1999 or 1990 ... It used to work and now it doesn't anymore ... I thought Linux was progressing ...05:44
thoreauputicKarhuton: right - but as candyban says -  still is used a lot05:45
D-N-Ai'm already partioned my drive with ntfs for windows i don't want to loss any inform. again just i wanna download it on my drive with windows system which i downloaded before like slackware and lilo05:45
Karhutonthoreauputic, Where? It's been a while I last heard a midi play on my computer :)05:45
fatcapafter i install new packages, how do i make the programs and stuff show up in my panel list thing05:45
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thoreauputiccandyban: hrm - that was intended as sarcasm....05:45
Karhutonthoreauputic, Maybe some simple SDL game..05:45
D-N-A<francis_> any help05:45
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normanhow can i modifiy the size of the buttons (i think they are too big) in ubuntu gnome05:45
clem_yeatsD-N-A : you need to partition your drive.05:45
D-N-Awhy i patrtion it05:45
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D-N-Apartion it05:46
rolando_i dont know if you read my q05:46
francis_D-N-A, u need to whatr ur partitions like05:46
rolando_what is the root password?05:46
Karhutonthoreauputic, And nin my opinion, any website that uses MIDI-sounds, isn't really worth visiting :)05:46
Ngrolando_: there is no root password, use sudo05:46
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thoreauputicKarhuton: we move in different spaces :) have you loked at rosegarden4 ? You can use it to write music05:46
srijithis there a dummies guide on creating ubuntu packages?05:46
concept10candyban, just because you cant get something to work doesnt mean linux isnt progressing05:46
francis_D-N-A, what r ur partitions like05:46
D-N-Awhen i downloaded slackware i just slelct the drive and slackware downloaded then it work with my ex.windows system05:46
Karhutonthoreauputic, Haven't looked into it05:46
fatcap!root05:46
uboturoot is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:46
seliniumthoreauputic: have you install rosegarden?05:46
candybanconcept10: if it USED to work and now it doesn't, that's a bad sign in my book05:47
D-N-Ait;s all formats by ntfs05:47
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thoreauputicKarhuton: well, it's quite a sophisticated app05:47
thoreauputicselinium: yes05:47
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rolando_no root that is weird05:47
Ngsrijith: look at debian developer docs, or maybe there's something in the wiki05:47
clem_yeatsD-N-A : you need to buy a linux book...05:47
concept10candyban, what USED to work05:47
Ngrolando_: it's good :)05:47
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candybanconcept10: midi05:47
francis_hey does anyone have to link to a site that explains how repositories work05:47
seliniumthoreauputic: i may need to bug you about getting it wotking on my pc! :05:47
D-N-A<clem_yeats> stop joking ok05:47
srijithNg: thanks05:47
D-N-Ai just need help05:47
clem_yeatsD-N-A : I'm serious.05:47
rolando_Ng: but does every password work with sudo?05:48
concept10candyban, what are you _specifically_ talking about.  Sequencing?  Playing midi through a website?05:48
Karhutonrolando_, type: "sudo passwd" if you need to login as root for some reason05:48
thoreauputicselinium: sure - but some other time :) It's nearly 2 am here!05:48
clem_yeatsD-N-A : you need to understand what partitions, OSes, filesystems are before you go and install linux.05:48
Ngrolando_: when you run something with sudo it asks for your password, but only works for people with sudo access05:48
fatcapits like swimming in a shallow pool05:48
Ngrolando_: which you can control in the user administration tool in Ubuntu05:48
seliniumthoreauptic: np I remember the last time i tries to get it working it was a bit of a pain.... to say the least!05:48
fatcapi say you should dive right in05:48
rolando_Karhuton: thats the command to set the roor pass?05:48
rolando_ok05:49
candybanconcept10: Yeah, just playing a friggin midi-file ... with the proper device (not some software midi2wav converter which plays on the pcm device)05:49
Karhutonrolando_, Yeah. It runs "passwd" as root. Running passwd as yourself sets your own password05:49
francis_hey does anyone have to link to a site that explains how repositories work05:49
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thoreauputictime to leep methinks - night all :)05:49
Karhutonrolando_, but I still suggest using sudo when ever you can05:49
thoreauputic*sleeep05:49
Ngrolando_: unless you really need to, don't set a root password though05:49
D-N-Ai just ask : what i can do to see all my partion in the installion window to select a drive to download the system05:49
candybanconcept10: "kmid" => Could not open /dev/sequencer (although I have snd-emu10k1-synth loaded)05:49
KarhutonNg, what about single user mode?05:49
NgKarhuton: what about it?05:50
concept10candyban, maybe you should do some research.05:50
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KarhutonNg, requires root password05:50
NgKarhuton: no it doesn't05:50
francis_hey does anyone have to link to a site that explains how repositories work05:50
rolando_ok, now who is right?05:50
concept10!repositories05:50
ubotumethinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:50
NgKarhuton: pick the recovery boot menu option, it won't ask anything05:50
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KarhutonNg, I'd remember it asking for root password or ctrl+d05:50
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grogoreohi05:50
setitehow do i turn off my laptop mouse05:50
dk156_the bot speaks05:50
D-N-Aif i repartion my device i will loss every thing and the windows xp system05:50
setitei disabled it int he xorg and couldnt boot x05:50
NgKarhuton: it will probably do that after you set a password or if you boot a regular debian machine, but not a default ubuntu install05:50
thoreauputiccandyban: run timidity in server mode << final hint before I fall asleep05:51
fatcaphow do i make the packages i installed show up in my menu05:51
KarhutonNg, how is recovery different?05:51
setiteit makes typing impossible05:51
NgKarhuton: it's not :)05:51
setitein windows you couold set a threshold so your palm didnt get sensed05:51
clem_yeatsD-N-A : you will loose everything anyway eventually if all your files are on the same partition as your windows system.05:51
francis_concept10, i was wondering what was main , universe ???05:51
KarhutonNg, it came up when I used "single" parameter to default kernel in lilo05:51
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KarhutonAnd I had set the root password prior to that05:51
NgKarhuton: that's why05:51
concept10fatcap, if they didnt add, you could add them yourself with smeg05:52
Ngyou'd set a password05:52
francis_concept10, wanetd to understand what that stuff is all about05:52
Ngif you don't, it can't ask you for one :)05:52
KarhutonNg, ok05:52
KarhutonNg, how is root login disabled, then?05:52
candybanconcept10: I already did ... I'm just shocked at this point that Mandrake 7.1 (1998 !!) back in the days could just run sndconfig and everything worked fine ... now 7 years later, tons of development hours, millions of end-users later, it should be "investigated" how it could be made to work?05:52
grogoreoI'm trying to run ardour and have installed Jackd with qjackctl to start it. but when it starts it says something about the Alsa sequencer and "could not connect to JACK server as client"05:52
NgKarhuton: it's disabled by not having a password :)05:52
KarhutonNg, getty uses MD5 of 'null' when you don't enter a password?05:52
D-N-Awhy didn't the ubunyo diplays my drives in my hard device it's only said you have 40 giga and this my hole device05:53
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francis_concept10, abd hey whats backports05:53
candybanthoreauputic: I want it to play on /dev/sequencer ... not /dev/pcm ... kmid (karaoke) and all other applications use /dev/sequencer05:53
clem_yeatsN-D-A: backup your files. Delete everything. Create 4 partitions (ext3, swap, ntfs, fat), put linux in the ext3, windows in the ntfs and your files back in the fat one.05:53
NgKarhuton: no idea, probably. It's more likely that root is disabled with the passwd file, I think you can stick a * as the password and disable the user05:53
concept10francis, they are just different categories for free, non-free, security updates, etc.  Backports is patching stable software with new changes05:53
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thoreauputiccandyban: all I know is tht running timidity as a server enables kmid to connect on port 12805:54
setiteno one knows how to disable my synaptics touchpad internal mouse??? or set the sensitivity to like not sense anythign?05:54
Ngsetite: is your other mouse USB or PS2?05:54
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concept10candyban, Im sorry, I dont mess with MIDI in linux, MIDI is tough enough in windows, you should try to goto a site like Planet CCRMA05:55
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thoreauputiccandyban: the options are in man timidity - now i really have to sleep: good luck05:55
pmjdebruijnlo all05:55
pmjdebruijndoes anybody here own a Socket A Sempron?05:55
setiteng usb05:55
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hopenghow to use 5.1 speakers in ubuntu ?05:55
hopenghow to see startup process ? i want to disable some05:56
Ngsetite: you could put "alias psmouse off" in /etc/modprobe.d/local - that would disable the kernel module that accesses ps2 and touchpad devices, or there are some tools for synaptic pads that might let you control it (that would be better)05:56
setiteoooh where could i get the synaptics tool05:56
Ngsetite: fire up synaptic (the package manager) and search for synaptic05:56
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Nghandy how they have the same name ;)05:56
candybanconcept10: I've never had problems with midi on windows (though I must admit, last time I ran windows was 2001)05:57
setitehaha synaptic in synaptic05:57
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setiteyep... ones evil though05:57
aliehi how to add gcc to my $path05:57
aliethere is not compiler in my path05:57
setiteid rather have that little stick05:57
Ngalie: install the build-essentials package05:57
reiki_workwow... been doing a LOT of reading. It *looks* like getting spamassassin worling with evolution is simply a matter of creating a filter in evolution once you have spamassassin installed. That appears to be the *simplest* way to get it working. As a newbie I volunteer to test this when I get home from work! :)05:57
eliphas_install gcc from synaptic05:57
aliei did but that is not going in path05:57
KarhutonNg, /sbin/sulogin apparently prompts for the passwrod05:58
alieNg, i am trying to install apache and getting an error that no compiler found05:58
NgKarhuton: ?05:58
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Ngalie: why aren't you installing apache from ubuntu's archives? no need to compile it normally05:58
KarhutonNg, it propably checks for non-existent root password05:58
KarhutonNg, and doesn't ask if it isn't there05:59
alieNg, yes i know but this is part of learning and i need to compile it05:59
KarhutonIt has strings like "no entry for root" and "root password garbled"05:59
setitehey where did it go05:59
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Ngalie: then install build-essential05:59
reiki_workI don't want to learn how to assemble the engine of my car. I just want to DRIVE it! :)05:59
alieoh you mean build-essential is the name of the package ?06:00
Ngyeah06:00
Karhutonreiki_work, yeah but there's some issues when you're trying to learn a car after using a bicycle from Microsoft06:00
reiki_workok... time for a walk by the lake... bbiab. I *love* this job...06:00
Ngit is a task package that will pull in things like gcc06:00
francis_concept10, hey how do i get my a giam chat window to blink when its minimized and i get a message06:00
alieNg, thanks for the help man06:00
Ngnp06:00
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Karhuton*learn to drive a car06:00
francis_hey how do i get my a giam chat window to blink when its minimized and i get a message06:00
deufodoes anyone know if xfce mail checker works with thunderbird?06:00
alieNg, thanks for the help ;)06:01
concept10francis, that is a gnome thing, im not sure.06:01
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Ngalie: :)06:01
reiki_workKarhuton: valid point... I compiled kernels back when I first tried slackware.. I don't feel the need any more :)  Especially since Ubuntu is designed to make my life easier... not harder06:01
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Karhutondeufo, xfce mail checker propably uses POP/IMAP or local mail account06:01
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deufoKarhuton, i thought it checks a directory06:01
reiki_workok... walk time06:02
Karhutondeufo, it has nothing to do with Thunderbird.06:02
deufoKarhuton, then how does xfce mail checker work?06:02
Karhutondeufo, if you use unix mail with fetchmail, then it should work06:02
BagsNoob needing help installing Opera and then Java for it. Any takers?06:02
deufoKarhuton, wat if i connect to a remote server06:02
Karhutondeufo, But if you use Thunderbird to connect your ISP's POP/IMAP server, forget the mail checker if ti doesn't support POP/IMAP06:03
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deufoKarhuton, thanks06:03
l0s3rk1dwhy ubuntu?06:03
concept10!tell Bags about Java06:03
seliniumany bluetooth users out there?06:03
highvoltageselinium: i'm sure there are.06:04
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concept10Bags, to intstall Opera, download the package and use dpkg -i operapackagename06:04
l0s3rk1dis ubuntu portage?06:04
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setitehey06:06
setitei installed the synaptics app... and told it to turn off the touchpad06:06
setitebut its still on06:06
setiteneed to restart you think?06:06
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user1_modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-6-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted06:06
user1_anyone seen and fixed this error?06:07
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chrissturmuser1, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper06:07
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user1_chrissturm: its from a root terminal06:08
concept10candyban, look at this page http://demudi.agnula.org/06:08
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BagsUm...06:08
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concept10user1, what do you get whe trying to use sudo?06:09
tombshi ppl06:09
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user1_concept10: same error06:10
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concept10user1_, did you compile this yourself?  Looks like you have the wrong version.06:10
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agraupeI'm having some trouble with unmet dependencies with apt-get.  I installed a version of elinks not in the repository, and it caused a whole bunch of problems.  dependencies weren't met, but it installed anyway, and now apt-get refuses to install anything.  it suggests running "apt-get -f install", but that wants to remove some important sounding packages like ubuntu-base.  is there any way I can fix it?06:11
grogoreowhat do i have to shutdown to use Jackd, using ALSA06:11
user1_concept10: I did compile this myself, which version should I have? I'm using ndiswrapper 1.206:11
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concept10user1_, I would try 1.1 because I know it works.06:11
oferethello06:12
oferetI gots questions06:12
vortec_hi, i just upgraded from hoary to breezy, and after a reboot xorg wouldn't start. my gfx card is "Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller" (says lspci). any idea what i could do?06:12
darkheartvortec_ try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server or something like that.06:13
concept10agraupe, I believe you may do that without any problem, I think ubuntu-base metapackage, post your output somewhere06:13
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agraupeconcept10: I will post it in #flood06:13
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concept10!paste06:13
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:13
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concept10there is bette06:13
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w0rmzhow do i check daemon status in ubuntu?06:15
sandinohello all06:16
w0rmzchkconfig ?06:16
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agraupeconcept10: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/136706:17
w0rmzanyobdy ?06:18
alex__can someone tell me something about the esd sound  ? I have tried to installed and run pd but it does not start (Segmentation fault), on the pd mailing list, it is question of a ubuntu bug related to the esd sound06:18
alex__what is the esd sound ?06:18
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agraupeconcept10: any ideas?06:19
oferetI am installing Ubuntu, as we speak. I've tried to install it a couple of times already however, unsuccessfully. So I am going to try to post questions here for the installation process06:20
oferetthere should be someone who'd help right ?!06:20
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oferetfirst question. I have a router through which my whole network is connected. But Ubuntu says that the network is probably not using DHCP protocol, while I know it does06:21
oferetsuggestions ?06:21
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zAo^tried "sudo dhclient eth0" ?06:22
oferetI do ont know that is06:22
oferetI am newbie sort a speak06:22
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pfpzAo^: you probably wont need sudo on the installation system06:22
zAo^it tries to get an IP by DHCP06:22
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oferetyep06:23
oferetbut it cannot find it06:23
concept10agraupe, is that apt-get install -f?06:23
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reiki_workoferet: check your router and see if it is only allowing a limited range of IPs for dhcp configuration. I'm a newbie too and using a LinkSys router my Ubuntu install was configured correctly by dhcp06:23
clem_yeatsdhcp... pfff.06:23
brgWith a very large mp3 collection, rhythmbox tend to be very very slow when searching and starting up. Any other players doing better?06:23
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sambagirloferet i had the same problem.06:23
Bagsconcept10, Well, I did that. Installed the package.06:24
BagsNow what?06:24
Bagsconcept10, Now what?06:24
oferetthe router I have is not linsys06:24
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oferetlinksys is definatly better I have a cheap costco router06:24
sambagirlreboot the router and check connections on all devices thru the router.06:24
pfpoferet: have you confirmed that your network card works, on ubuntu, eg. with a statical ip06:24
oferetthat might be the reason, so what is the way to go around it06:24
reiki_workoferet: and your router is the dhcp server?06:24
raDeonLINKSYS IS TRASH!06:24
oferetok how do I do that ?06:24
oferetyes06:24
concept10Bags, installed which package?06:24
oferetI disagree Linksys works very well06:25
sandinoofehe  hey just redo the network part again in the install06:25
sandinochose maybe eth106:25
oferetI tried it on many different environments06:25
raDeonyeah it works well06:25
raDeonbut it's trash06:25
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sambagirlthen when i did a re-install it recognized the dhcp config and it worked fine,.06:25
jschroedLinksys == Cisco; Cicso runs the internet06:25
clem_yeatsand your nick is radeon ??06:25
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clem_yeatsmy radeon "is" trash.. :))06:25
Bagsconcept10, The Opera Debian package06:25
oferetok I'lltry to redo it06:25
clem_yeatsI don't know about linksys though06:25
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oferetsec06:26
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sambagirlthat is what i did and it loaded properly the second timre around.06:26
concept10does it show up in your menu?06:26
raDeonclem_yeats i don't use ATI cards06:26
w0rmzubuntu dont has "service" program ?06:26
reiki_workisn't there a way in the installer to make it do static rather than dhcp? I thought there was06:26
raDeonclem_yeats radeon is a latin stem06:26
clem_yeatsme neither.. they use me ! :))06:26
sambagirlbe sure and reboot the router06:26
w0rmzor script ?06:26
raDeonuntil ATI screwed it up for me06:26
pfpoferet: it asks you for a statical ip after telling you that dhcp failed06:26
TychoI want to rename all files in a directory from *;1 to * (cut the ";1"). Can someone help me with the Perl command in rename?06:26
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clem_yeatsradeon : oh ok.06:26
sandinohey where can i get a depository of programs for ubuntu ?06:26
oferetdo yoi mean retry right now, or after the installation is done ?06:27
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sandinoim looking for nicotine06:27
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sandinooferet now06:27
clem_yeatsTycho yes in pv06:27
oferetk06:27
sandinotheres GO BACK06:27
sambagirlrestart the installation do a fresh install.06:27
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sambagirlit only takes a short time.06:27
pfpremember, no drug talk sandino ;)06:28
raDeondrugs are cool,06:28
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bretzelhello all, I am curious to know how is the status of usplash or other way for Linux Framebuffer boot ?06:28
sandinoyeah nicoinseek..e is soul06:28
sandinoooops06:28
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BagsDrugs are bad, m'kay?06:29
Mothit did notwork06:29
raDeonbretzel discontinued.06:29
Mothsomeone said that it might be my network06:29
raDeonBags yes06:29
Mothnetwork card that is06:29
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chrissturmbretzel, breezy comes with usplash06:29
Mothwhere can I find out if it is compatible with Ubuntu ?06:29
bretzelchrissturm: Thus no hopes to have it on hoary ?06:29
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pfpMoth: are you in the installer or have you installed ubuntu already06:30
alex__ does anyone know what is esd ?06:30
Mothoh shit06:30
Mothit changed my nick06:30
MothI am in the installed06:30
w0rmzalex__,google  "what is esd"06:30
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chrissturmbretzel, it looks very unpolished, you dont want to run it now :)06:30
bretzelalex__: Enlightenment Sound Service Deamon ... or thing like it06:31
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l0s3rk1dis ubuntu portage?06:31
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Mothsorry I am in the installer06:31
alex__ok06:31
Bagsconcept10, So I downloaded the Opera Debian PPC Package and used dpkg -i to set it up.06:32
pfpMoth: press alt-f2, then type "dmesg | grep eth", that should list your net cards  (alt-f1 to get back)06:32
bretzelchrissturm: thanks for the hint :-) - Is it really complicated to have Cnsoles in fb on haory ?06:32
concept10Bags, does it show up in your menu?06:32
Bagsconcept10, It's all there, now how do I use it?06:32
bretzelchrissturm: read Consoles -- typo06:32
Bagsconcept10, No...06:32
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concept10Bags, type locate opera in te terminal06:33
Mothsambagirl, I tried to reboot my router, it did not help06:33
bretzelI discovered that no matter the distro, nvidia 3d accel drivers screwe up FB consoles...06:33
chrissturmbretzel, i dunno. i just installed usplash and looked at it :)06:33
Bagsconcept10, It doesn't come up...06:34
Bagsconcept10, I think that it may be where I downloaded it.06:34
Bagsconcept10, It ended up in /tmp/06:34
arpheticYES06:34
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arpheticI CAN GAME06:34
arpheticW)))06:34
bretzelBTW: SuSE (9.3) have a really NICE Grub in FB mode... not talking about their console1 background06:34
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Bagsconcept10, should that matter?06:35
Bagsconcept10, I did the installtion from the /tmp directory.06:35
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stratovariushey hi all06:35
bretzelOther ubuntu users managed to get Boot and consoles in FB ?06:35
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new15advice w/ network problem would be helpful06:36
pfpnew15: 19:32 < pfp> Moth: press alt-f2, then type "dmesg | grep eth", that should list your net cards  (alt-f1 to get  back)06:36
stratovariuswho does tell me the address of some repositories?06:36
pfp!repositories06:36
ubotuI guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:37
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bretzelI can't find the subject in Ubuntu Wiki ... If I enter in Kernel configs to enable fb, I think I am going into a nightmare journey06:37
stratovarius!repositories06:37
concept10Bags, type opera in the terminal it should start, Im trying to find where it installs at06:37
agraupe_can someon quickly tell me what version of libidn11 is installed by default by hoary?06:37
seliniumHi i am looking for someone who has set up bluetooth...06:37
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Bagsconcept10, Nope.06:37
Bagsconcept10, opera: cannot connect to X server06:38
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pfpagraupe_: 0.5.2-306:39
gmoorei'm trying to set up pureftpd. i want to be able to give different users different permissions. for example john can list and upload to /ftp/Incoming but not go up to /ftp/. steve can list and download from /ftp/Files/ but not go to /ftp/. jack can go anywhere in /ftp and modify anything. do i do that through chmod permissions?06:39
concept10Bags, I cant help you on that one.06:39
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Bagsconcept10, Ok. Thanks anyhoo.06:40
Bagsconcept10, I appreciate you trying.06:40
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Bagsconcept10, I think it's a PPC thing... (Boring...)06:40
Sputn1kAfter ubuntu 5.04-hoary update to 5.10-breezy, x's dont work, and official nvidia driver too, what i should do?06:40
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c3ltichello06:41
kemikwhy isit impossible to edit the ID3 tags in Rythmbox?06:41
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kemiki can see the fields and all, but no change them06:41
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c3lticcan anyone help me?06:41
concept10Bags, you dont like firefox?06:41
w0rmzhow do i check which daemons are running at startup ?06:41
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samukemik, because the version of rhythmbox that comes with hoary is really old and crap06:42
benjamin1254c3ltic whats up?06:42
Sputn1khelp me plz.....06:42
plagerismCan I please use Breezy now??06:42
c3ltici'm having some problems06:42
concept10kemik, use easytag06:42
benjamin1254explain06:42
VaroXzcan anyone help me, my soundcard won't work06:42
plagerismHow buggy is breezy??06:42
kemiksamu:  and it's not backported?06:42
samui dont know06:42
kemikconcept10:  will look into that.. need to re-tag all my mp3s i think06:42
concept10plagerism, download the like cd and find out06:42
samuall i know is i cant update it automagically06:43
plagerismI did download the livecd, looked okay to me06:43
benjamin1254c3ltic brb ok sir06:43
agraupe_I've come to the conclusion that I need to uninstall, then reinstall an earlier version, of libidn11.  I can't remove it due to dependancies, according to dpkg.  how can I force its removal?06:43
c3ltici just installed ubuntu... and it asked username and password etc... so it installed all... no it's time to log in but doesn't accept my user and pass... how can i get inside or change my account?06:43
plagerismcan I upgrade to breezy now?? Is development frozen??06:43
concept10I didnt see any real changes for me to install once its released.06:43
VaroXzsorry about this stupid question but i started using linux yesterday... where do i get modules from?06:43
kemiksamu:  you've compiled a new version yourself then ?06:43
samukemik, i recommend switching to windows or osX so you can use itunes :)06:43
samukemik, no i just remain pissed off06:43
Sputn1kAfter ubuntu 5.04-hoary update to 5.10-breezy, x's dont work, and official nvidia driver too, what i should do?06:44
plagerismWhat version of Xorg is in Breezy??06:44
kemiksamu:  tssk :P06:44
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w0rmzfedora is better than ubuntu in server administration06:45
w0rmzhuh06:45
samuits the main application thats holding me back from putting linux on the laptop too06:45
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concept10!info xorg06:45
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bretzelw0rmz: I agree but Ubuntu is far better for Linux multi-media stuff06:45
concept10plagerism, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xorg&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all&page=1&number=all06:45
akkWhat's the best movie player to play .avi video from a digital camera?06:46
kemiki think ubuntu is mainly geared for the Desktop06:46
akkNothing I've tried seem to read it.06:46
no_dammagEhi, can someone please help me to setup lilo please? My machine is not supported by GRUB. I'm currently sitting in a booted knoppix ...06:46
kemikakk:  VLC or mplayer06:46
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plagerismoh nice, they finally got a packages.ubuntu06:46
H0lyD4wgis there a way to switch the active keyboard layout from the command line?06:46
w0rmzbretzel, you are rite06:46
kemikakk:  vlc is probably the best mediaplayer there is... for all OS's06:46
akkkemik: mplayer doesn't seem to handle it -- says it's using ffmpeg's libavcodec codec family but then it doesn't play.06:46
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akk"The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec."06:47
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concept10samu, you may use itunes in linux with crossover office.06:47
agraupe_is there a place i can download a .deb of the original hoary version of libidn11?06:47
concept10!info qoudlibet06:47
c3lticcan anyone say how to make new account when i can't log in with one i registered during install06:48
new15after I tried dmesg | grep eth06:48
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concept10!info quodlibet06:48
new15I got this result...06:48
new15eth0: Via Rhine at 0xde00, 00:50:ba:bc:b2:1d, IRQ 1106:48
new15eth0: MII PHY found at address 8, status 0x7809 advertising 05e1 Link 000.06:48
new15eth0: link down06:48
new15eth0: link down06:48
new15what does it mean ?06:48
bretzelw0rmz: I tell you: I am using Ubuntu with Kubuntu-Desktop for my KDE stuff needs ( KDevelop/QT/amaroK etc..) and I find Ubuntu the best for the mix of Gnome and KDE! No other distros have both Gnome and KDE well integrated...06:48
chrissturmnew15, you probably have no cable plugged in06:48
pfpnew15: most probably your network cable is not connected06:48
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VaroXzcan anyone tell me where to get modules from... i'm VERY newbie06:49
pfpnew15: btw, on the channel please06:49
new15I am sure it is... I'll make sure it is workin06:49
new15sec06:49
agraupe_is there a place i can download a .deb of the original hoary version of libidn11?06:49
akkkemik: Nope, vlc doesn't read the avi either.06:49
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concept10you guys should try this music player: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Screenshots06:49
pfpnew15: or if you have BNC and RJ-45, the card may be listening on the wrong plug06:50
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bretzelw0rmz: I am telling you that because I did try FC4, SuSE9.3PRO and returned to Ubuntu 2 days ago because it is the only distro that meets my needs...06:50
w0rmzbretzel, but what is the purpose of using that if windows is better for multi media stuff06:50
concept10VaroXz, what modules are you talking about06:50
AxemanHi06:50
kemikakk:  that's weird... between mplayer and vlc ther's not much they cant handle06:50
AxemanNeed some help regarding ubuntu live06:50
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VaroXzi need the snd-maestro3 module for my soundcard06:50
jschroedhttp://www.polarhome.com/cgi-bin/chat/irc.cgi I love irc through firewalls06:50
Axemanwondering if anyone would be good enough to point me06:50
kemikw0rmz:  linux is free, windows is not ?06:50
bretzelw0rmz: Windows ??? ( lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to get what Linux can give)06:50
Axemanin the right direction06:50
gmooreanyone know of an easy to set up ftp server  where i can have a bunch of non-system users with different permissions? ie steve can access /ftproot/ and only upload while john can access the same directory and only download06:50
kemikgmoore:  pureftpd06:51
H0lyD4wg(eg. if i did "setxkbmap -layout us,il", is there a program i can run to switch to the second layout (il) ? )06:51
w0rmzhehe06:51
c3lticcan anyone help me?06:51
w0rmzpirated windows06:51
AxemanI have aproblem booting from the ubuntu PPC CD with my iMac g506:51
w0rmzmost of users using pirated one06:51
w0rmzhehe06:51
w0rmzits free06:51
jschroedbretzel: Linux support is not free. Actually, Linux support is more expensive because their is a higher demand of Linux professionals06:51
bretzelw0rmz: Just for Development $1500 ( canadian ) to get basic VS7.x06:51
pfpgmoore: it's possible with proftpd's configuration too06:51
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enowhat does ubuntu 5.10 colony 3 mean?  (the colony part)06:52
agraupe_I need to downgrade libidn11, but I can't find a package of the version that came with hoary, and I don't have the install cd with me, is there anything I can do?06:52
bretzeljschroed: Worst in Windows world: You pay the licenses lots of $$$ and try to get support!!!!06:52
gmoorekemik: i'm trying with pureftpd but i can't figure out virtual users and such :( would you mind giving me a hand if you're not busy06:52
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pfpc3ltic: you can reset your password when you boot to recovery mode06:52
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jschroedbretzel: How many computers have you supported in a Windows or Linux environment?06:53
w0rmzim looking for networking stuff in linux06:53
concept10VaroXz, its probably already on your system06:53
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w0rmzbut it seems redhat or fedora is the best06:53
kemikgmoore:  ive not used it myself, just know it support non-system users06:53
jschroedIf the answer is < 1000, you dont know what youre talking about06:53
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AxemanCan anyone help me with problems booting from ubuntu live PPC on an iMac G5? - it gets to the hardware detection, then has problems detectin g the cdrom drive and askm me to choose manually.  It then  wont let me go any further06:53
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concept10VaroXz, type locate snd-maestro06:53
w0rmzbut ... ubuntu is the best for multi media stuffs06:53
jschroedUbuntu and Fedora are both excellent for Desktop Linux06:53
c3lticpfp ... when booting to recovery mode... what does it do? and how06:53
concept10VaroXz, did you see it?06:53
kemikw0rmz:  what sort of "networking" are you looking for ?06:54
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AxemanAnyone?06:54
w0rmzso i ve to make decision what is my specification goes to06:54
VaroXzwait a sec06:54
jschroedUbuntu has better software installation via synaptic where fedora has better security and configuration tools06:54
w0rmzkemik, adminstration tasks06:54
pfpc3ltic: from the grub (=boot) menu06:54
oferetyou were right, I did not connect teh network cable <- boy do I feel stupid06:54
oferetbut at this point, even though I have it connected I get the same response06:55
bretzelNot me but in my employer's net staff: Linux is free, they have the knowledges for linux servers, so they get paid normal salaries for their work. If they were Microsoft, the employer must pay the licenses and support...06:55
w0rmzbut till now im clueless of what is the main purpose of using linux06:55
w0rmzhehe06:55
pfpc3ltic: then type 'passwd c3ltic' (assuming that's your user id), then boot w/ 'shutdown -r now'06:55
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Frafrahi all06:55
jschroedBretzel, /me is a Unix admin06:55
pfpw0rmz: freedom!06:55
oferetit seems that my card is not communicating with my router06:55
kemikw0rmz:  what do you mean with "administration tasks" ?06:55
oferethow could that be changed  ?06:55
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kemikoferet:  dhclient -i eth006:56
oferetmy router indicates that it is connected to a network card, but it seems that my network card is not doing it06:56
w0rmzkemik, that makes me easier to handle the task06:56
oferetok I'll try that now06:56
Frafraif I use 'sudo pon dsl-provider' it works, but if I do 'gksudo pon dsl-provider' it doesn't work. It says: "...The file /etc/ppp/peers/'dsl-provider' does not exist..."06:56
c3lticpfp... ok... going to try06:56
bretzeljschroed: Cool! :-) So you know that XP Pro stations in Windows servers per licenses are fuc%$#^%$ expensive...06:56
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kemikw0rmz:  which task?!06:56
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w0rmzpfp, freedom isnt my main point as im still hunting for a job :(06:56
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w0rmzkemik, as i have asked before06:57
jschroedbretzel: Yes I do, and I also know that the majority of enterprise users still use Win2k on the desktop06:57
agraupe_is there any way to browse available packages with a web browser (ie at archive.ubuntu.com) and download them?06:57
kemikw0rmz:  i missed it :/06:57
w0rmzfor an example06:57
concept10agraupe_, yes06:57
oferet-i is not an option06:57
jschroedThere is no real reason to upgrade to XP other than prettier graphics and slower bling06:57
w0rmzwhat is the command to know daemon status06:57
concept10agraupe_, do you use firefox?06:57
bretzelYes, sorry Win2K -- the same tho...06:57
pfpw0rmz: i see :( ... from my experience, knowing linux helps with that :)06:57
w0rmzas chkconfig in fedora or redhat06:58
kemikw0rmz:  ps aux | grep "name of daemon"06:58
Frafrawho can help me?06:58
agraupe_concept10: yes06:58
jschroedw0rmz: /etc/init.d/httpd status06:58
jschroedw0rms: and I think you mean the service command on redhat or fedora06:58
jschroedw0rms: On fedora service httpd status will tell you the status of the web server daemon06:58
w0rmzjschroed, u are rite06:58
oferetkemik dhclient -i eth0 did not work06:59
bretzelActually I am working in a tech support in a call center and it is Win2K: but the cie is really big and rich... so they don't care about Linux...06:59
oferetit seems that -i is not an option06:59
w0rmzand it tells u what service are running in what level06:59
agraupe_concept10: what is the correct site?  I can't find the actual packages at archive.ubuntu.com06:59
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kemikoferet:  dhclient eth0 then06:59
jschroedw0rmz: ubuntu is debian based, there is no concept of runlevels like in other modern distros06:59
concept10agraupe_, go here and add the firefox search engine http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&submitform=Find+search+plugins06:59
concept10Everyone else should add that also07:00
concept10to search packages from firefox07:00
pfpoferet: hmm isn't there an option/button/menu to retry the dhcp thing, in the installer?07:00
oferetkemik, here is the output: Bind socket to interface: No suc hdevice07:00
oferetexiting.07:00
w0rmzjschroed, ahhh.... sorry for that question....im fedora user before07:00
w0rmzjust trying to start usqing ubuntu07:00
kemikoferet:  do a "ifconfig"07:00
w0rmzi ve no debian based07:00
agraupe_concept10: that's nice... maybe should that be added to the default ubuntu firefox package?07:00
oferetpfp, yes there is, but it does not detect the DHCP server even though its workin07:01
pfpoh07:01
concept10agraupe_, yeah, conact the developers, it comes with the debian pkg search07:01
benjamin1254debian feels better... o feel that it flows better as time goes on and they even ship free cds of there distro which is a pluss i ordered 10 all free07:01
concept10agraupe_, I was going to write it but it was there already07:01
oferetpfp, I can quote the response: Your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol. Alternatively, the DHCP server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly.07:01
agraupe_concept10: thanks for the help07:02
oferetwhat is the command parallel to ipconfig in linux07:02
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pfp"ifconfig -a" or "ip addr ls"07:03
Axemanoh well07:03
Axemanlooks like noone can help me07:03
AxemanCheers anyway07:03
Axemanbye07:03
neighborleewait07:03
neighborleeohwell07:03
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benjamin1254poor axeman07:04
oferetit does not provide me with my ip07:05
oferetwait07:05
pfppoor ppc users :/07:05
oferethow do I release and renew ?07:05
benjamin1254u know his name sure maes u wonder07:05
benjamin1254makes*07:05
concept10yours too..07:05
neighborleelol07:05
FrafraI've a problem. If I use 'sudo pon dsl-provider' it works, but if I do 'gksudo pon dsl-provider' it doesn't work. It says: "...The file /etc/ppp/peers/'dsl-provider' does not exist...". Who can help me?07:05
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oferetanyone ?07:06
concept10Frafra, try gksuexec07:06
no_dammagEcan someone please help me to set up lilo?07:06
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pfpoferet: dhclient -r ; dhclient eth007:07
concept10oferet, you need your ip address?07:07
no_dammagEi don't know why it fails, GRUB doesn't support my machine ...07:07
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Frafraconcept10: thx07:07
oferetI thinki it works07:07
oferetsec07:07
MAPDhi07:07
regebroHelo! I just upgraded from Warty to Hoary, and now, when a windows wants something it no longer pops to the front... instead it just flashes briefly, which I never notice... Can I change this?07:07
concept10no_dammagE, grub runs on everything from toasters to mainframes, what are you talking about?07:07
Seveas\annoncement{ The Ubuntu pastebin now has a search function too :)) }07:08
concept10Frafra, did that work?07:08
no_dammagEwell, it tells me Error 18 and up to now I couldn't go around it07:08
concept10hmmm, the ubiquitous error 1807:08
no_dammagEError 18 was that my HDD wasn't detected corretly as far as I remember07:08
no_dammagEHDD is running in LBA32 mode07:08
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Dr_Willissounds like an old bios issue.07:08
no_dammagEit is an old 8GB IDEHDD07:08
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no_dammagEI doubt I'll be able to upgrade it07:09
Dr_Willis8gb? i got more porn then that...07:09
Dr_Willis:P07:09
no_dammagElol07:09
benjamin1254lmfao07:09
Dr_Willisthey got usb thumb drives that size!07:09
Frafraconcept10: I want somethink like an icon who start a program that need to be used from root07:09
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oferetconcept10, I do not exactly need that, what I need is to set up my network connection. I am in the installer phase of ubuntu and the network just won't work07:09
Dr_WillisI just put together a 200gb external USB hd. :P07:09
Frafraconcept10: something like gksudo [commando] 07:09
oferetit says that I have no DHCP server, while I know I do07:09
no_dammagEthe point is that LILO can boot it and I'm sitting currently in Knoppix trying to install it07:09
oferetbtw it did not work07:09
concept10Frafra, there is one07:10
benjamin1254really i put together a 400gb usb 2.0 HDD07:10
no_dammagEthe result is: /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found07:10
oferetsame response -> no response from the DHCP server07:10
no_dammagEIs device-mapper driver missing from kernel?07:10
no_dammagEblah blah07:10
Frafraconcept10: but it doesn't works07:10
oferetwhat is I skip the network set up for now... is that a serious problem ?07:10
oferetif*07:10
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concept10Frafra, Appliations > System Tools > Run as different user07:10
no_dammagEbtw, BIOS is really old - revision from 199907:11
Frafraconcept10: if I do: "gksudo [program]  [opt] " it's equal to "program 'option'"07:11
jschroedregebro: This is part of gnome 2.10s new focus stealing prevention code07:11
jschroedI dont think you can change that07:11
benjamin1254can ne one help me format an old mac 5500/225 seris power mac?07:11
regebroMeh! :-/07:11
TychoWhats the parameter for ls if I want it to list just directories?07:11
pfpoferet: you can still install, you just wont get the latest updates at the same time07:11
jschroedTycho -d07:11
regebrojschroed: OK, at least I can google on that and see if I can change it.07:11
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oferetpfp, but if I'll install later I would be able to get all the updates? correct07:12
Tychojschroed: -d gets me just "."07:12
benjamin1254could i use a new blah hard drie and do it that way instead?07:12
benjamin1254BLANK*07:12
pfpoferet: yes07:12
Frafraconcept10: ok, but I want that it goes in auto, only request root's password07:12
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no_dammagEanyone?07:13
w0rmzmypapit, welcome user from malaysia07:13
w0rmzhuhu07:13
mypapitw0rmz: thank you07:13
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mypapitw0rmz: i just gotten around the apt-get..07:13
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  trying to install lilo from a live cd?07:13
concept10Frafra, create a launcher07:13
no_dammagEyes07:13
w0rmzmypapit, malay?07:13
mypapitw0rmz: yes07:13
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w0rmzcakap melayu dah la07:13
w0rmzekeke07:13
mypapitw0rmz: nnt ada org lain bengang lak07:14
w0rmztegeliat jari aku dok taip07:14
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  may want to check the ubuntu wikis' there a few things you got to do..07:14
mypapitw0rmz: keke07:14
MAPDmalay girls are nice!!!07:14
w0rmzok07:14
w0rmzkita speaking07:14
mypapitw0rmz: diorang suh aku cakap english.. hehe07:14
no_dammagEDr_Willis: ok, doing ...07:14
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  you basicially mount your system somewhere, then chroot to it. and install/run lilo.07:14
w0rmzMAPD, nice?07:14
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w0rmzmypapit, cakap la english broken07:14
oferetpfp, I did it manually, but I do ont know if it worked07:14
Frafraconcept10: yes, but "gksuexec [program]  [option] " display the same result of "gksuexec"07:14
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w0rmzjanji dorang paham dah07:14
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  BUT theres a few other got-yas to look out for. Like how /proc and /dev got to be done on the chrooted system07:14
MAPDw0rmz yes arent they?07:15
MAPD!pastebin07:15
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:15
concept10Frafra, what are you trying to run as root?07:15
mypapitw0rmz: ko pakai ubuntu gak ke? aku pakai debian je.. aku pakai ubuntu rasa cam newbie lak.. hehe07:15
w0rmzMAPD, why did u say so07:15
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Grumblycan someone help me out?  I'm trying to find 2 things, but I am not sure where to start.  the 1st, most important is a Call tracking/Support system Ala CRM.  the second is a PBX logger/monitor.07:15
w0rmzmypapit, sama ja...tadak beza pon07:15
mypapitw0rmz: pc sebelah aku pakai ubuntu la.. main test2 install.. pc adik aku..07:15
w0rmzmypapit, just a little bit diff07:15
w0rmzhehe07:15
no_dammagEDr_Willis: and that's the problem: in chroot I don't have any write permission while in livecd env lilo fails because it can't find a device (/proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found)07:15
oferetI am formating the hd now, recommendations for partitioning07:15
MAPDw0rmz because i've met some :P07:15
nonspecifichi, does anybody know why msn won't run on my gaim07:15
Frafraconcept10: pon dsl-provider07:15
pfpoferet: can't you ping your gateway / some other ip07:15
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dv_hello07:15
w0rmzMAPD, u got their pics ?07:16
w0rmzhuhu07:16
jschroedGrumbly: www.sugarcrm.com, www.asterisk.org07:16
concept10Frafra, try a launcher07:16
plagerismGrumbly, I used to use a CRM called double chocco latte07:16
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dv_is sqlite 3.2 for ubuntu available?07:16
MAPDw0rmz nope07:16
w0rmzmypapit, aku saje test pakai ubuntu ni07:16
oferetI could I just do not know how to do it in Linux07:16
jschroedSugarCRM is the best OSS Crm by far07:16
Grumblyjschroed:  many thanks...07:16
w0rmzMAPD, then how did u know them07:16
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MAPDw0rmz personally?07:16
GrumblyIs it a support CRM or is it a mktg crm?07:16
MAPDi have a friend in malaysia07:16
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  right. :P theres a few commands ya need to do to get the /dev and /proc and stuff set right.. I rember this from my Gentoo Days - where we had to do the same thing to just install. :P may want to skim the gentoo install docs. I know the commands are mentioned there.07:17
w0rmzMAPD, yeah07:17
MAPDhe works on the towers07:17
MAPDwith the bridge07:17
MAPDi cant remember the name07:17
mypapitw0rmz: aku pun test2.. aku pakai 5.04 (hoary).. mcm best gak awal2.. cuma nak connect stimmix aku tak paham sikit awal2.. tp lepas tu ok.. kemudian aku tgk ubuntu ni cam kosong je, cam utk newbie sgt lak.. hehe07:17
Frafraconcept10: yes, but what command I must write in the launcher?07:17
plagerismGrumbly development/support07:17
pfpoferet: alt-f2, "ping i.p.ad.rr", stop it with ctrl-c07:17
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nonspecificanyone?07:17
w0rmzmypapit, sebab tu dia cepat installation07:17
MAPDpetronas w0rmz?07:17
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pfpor "ping -c 5 ip.add.re.ss"07:17
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oferetI tried that it did not work07:17
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w0rmzby the way senang je kalo pakai apt-get07:17
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w0rmzMAPD, what do u mean by petronas?07:18
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oferetpfp, the ping command does not work07:18
no_dammagEDr_Willis: i still have the gentoo handbook somewhere lying around ... hmm, but ubuntu doesn't have several commands/apps e.g. env-update ...07:18
w0rmzMAPD, that is oil company :p07:18
muffin_hi! where do i see my local ip adress???07:18
Grumblyjschroed:  Hmm... looks promising.  I'm thinking somthing like a bank would have... Or, if you've seen it, Nettopia Octopus.07:18
plagerismSo is breezy comparable to Debian unstable in stability??  I am thinking I want to upgrade07:18
GrumblyIt's wicked huge07:18
oferetbut it says now that I have a link up, 100 MBps, full duplix, lpa 0x41e107:18
MAPDw0rmz07:18
MAPDwait07:18
MAPDi need to find the07:18
MAPDname07:18
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  thats gentoo specific. not needed. :P07:18
MAPDi dont know if its correct07:18
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MAPDlo07:18
MAPDl07:18
jotihi all07:18
pfpoferet: you mean the command is not found, or does it fail somehow07:19
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muffin_how can i see my local ip adress???07:19
oferetpfp, command not found07:19
no_dammagEfirst of all, I'll need to modify my sources.list - it doesn't have anything except the CD and the drive is already in use ^^07:19
Grumblyplagerism:  which one?07:19
pfpoferet: bleh :(07:19
MAPDPetronas Towers07:19
jotidoes anyone have a gues how to get back to gdm for login? i've set it kdm accidently...:-)07:19
MAPDkuala limpur07:19
oferetpfp, I concur07:19
MAPDKuala Lumpur07:20
w0rmzMAPD, hahahaha07:20
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alieis it possible to install with apt-get on a desired location ?07:20
MAPDis it not correct07:20
nickrudjoti, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm07:20
w0rmzMAPD, nice girl?07:20
MAPDyeah07:20
MAPDhoyt07:20
w0rmzMAPD, let me c the look07:20
w0rmzhehe07:20
jotinickrud: thx a lot07:20
XRangejoti: one might edit /etc/rc.conf07:20
nonspecificsorry, but could I ask you a question, please07:20
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muffin_is there a shell command to see my local ip adress???07:20
UrbanFoxhi07:20
w0rmzmypapit, ko slalu lepak server mana07:20
nickrudXRange, there is no rc.conf :)07:20
oferetpfp, do you recommend a particular partition, I mean I jsut want ot finish this installations and get ubuntu working, once I'd play with it a little I'll learn to everything proper and will reinstall teh system in a month or 207:21
pfpmuffin_: ip addr ls07:21
UrbanFoxwhere can I download the latest Ubuntu Breezy ISO?07:21
UrbanFoxI want to see what's changed07:21
UrbanFox(Installing it on a VM)07:21
muffin_pfp thx07:21
jschroedmuffin_: ifconfig eth007:21
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kelseyHas anyone gotten Runescape to work properly on Hoary Hedgehog?07:22
oferetpfp, forgot to say thank you07:22
pfpoferet: the system, with desktops etc is around 2-3 GB, add as much personal space as you need to that07:22
no_dammagEDr_Willis: ok, apt-get update in chroot to install lilo ...07:22
pfpoferet: np :)07:22
XRange nickrud, that would explain why i couldn't fine it then07:22
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SeveasUrbanFox, releases.ubuntu.com07:23
oferetI've partioned my drive and now the system is being isntalled. I tried to install it before I remember it got stuck07:23
oferetso brace for impact, I am going to have a shitload of questinos in just a couple of minutes07:23
kelseyanyone?07:23
nickrudXRange, it's pretty much just links in rcS.d for startup, then rc2.d as the default run level07:23
oferet(I mean this is not my first attempt)07:23
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neighborleehttp://www.fazed.org/video/view/?id=2107:23
alieis it possible to install a package with apt-get on a desired location ?07:24
neighborleecute and worth watching07:24
jschroedalie: It07:24
jschroed's possible to compile a package in a desired location :) but not apt-get07:24
aliejschroed, what is the command to install07:24
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jschroedapt-get install packagename07:25
oferethaha :)07:25
aliewell that will install on default location rite ?07:25
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benjamin1254neone ever work with old school power pcs that they were locked out of?07:27
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jurgisWhen i trying to open synaptic i get this : http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8da.png, form kosole (sudo synaptic) every thing find, where is the problem?07:27
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jotibenjamin1254: if its macos9 you can boot with a os9 cd and delete a file that locks you out...google helps07:28
benjamin1254well i have os 8 it stinks07:28
sockpuppe1hello07:28
no_dammagEDr_Willis: Fatal: open /dev/hda8: Permission denied07:28
no_dammagEhow can I fix it?07:28
benjamin1254i cant do nething with it07:28
no_dammagEliloconfig tells me that ...07:29
jurgissomebody07:29
benjamin1254joti could i replace it w/ another hard drive07:29
jotibenjamin: maybe it works on os8 as well...i suggest booting from a install cd and try to access your hd07:29
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  with those commands I forget in the gentoo isntall - LOL - let me see07:29
darkheartjurgis Sounds like you're missing /root/.Xauthority or something.07:29
Seveasjurgis, don't do it as root07:29
no_dammagE^^07:29
sockpuppe1i've recently ripped a dvd to my desktop using dvd::rip07:29
Seveasjurgis, as a normal user, use sudo synaptic07:29
benjamin1254i dident ever get an install cd seeing as it came froim a christian school and everything was locked07:29
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benjamin1254when i got ity07:29
nicholaspaulhey cats07:30
darkheartjurgis Listen to Seveas..I misread your message.07:30
sockpuppe1and when I encode it, say, to xvid, it gives me this weird mpeg error07:30
jotinormally changing a hd works if theres a working system on it...if not you'll try to install one from a install cd07:30
joti@benjamin07:30
dv_is there a searchable ubuntu package database, like packages.debian.org ?07:30
Carpe_LibertatemCan someone help me change resolution settings on Ubuntu? When I tried changing it in xorg.conf, X11 wouldn't start07:30
Carpe_Libertatem=x07:30
icewtpackages.ubuntu.com07:30
sockpuppe1anyone capable of helping?07:30
dv_Carpe_Libertatem, you can change the resolution in gnome07:31
dv_without manually tweaking xorg.conf07:31
Carpe_LibertatemNot to the res I want07:31
benjamin1254joti so alls i have to do is take ne old hard drive i have laying around n then go from there but how o u pry the older hard drives out of thoes beasts of a mac07:31
Carpe_Libertatemit's maxed at 1024, I went at least 1280, pref 160007:31
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,   # mount -t proc none /mnt/YourMountPoint/proc       Is one of the commands.07:31
nicholaspaulis your monitor capable, Carpe+Libertatem07:31
jurgisSeveas, i sayed that from console everything find07:31
Carpe_Libertatemyes07:31
jotibtw: is there something like netstumbler for ubuntu - i know theres kismet - but i didnt know about a gui for it07:31
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DJ_Miragelook for Kismet-GUI on google07:31
Carpe_LibertatemIn windows I run 1600x120007:31
nicholaspauland youre editing xorg.conf with gedit?07:32
joti@benjamin do you habe trouble opening a mac?07:32
Carpe_LibertatemI edited with pico07:32
concept10Hurry now ! Install Quod Libet, its much better than rhythmbox07:32
benjamin1254i can open the back just cant get to the drives or hard drive07:32
nicholaspauli dont know of any reason why pico might mess it up... :S07:32
jotithere a two buttons at the lower front edge, press them and pull the cover towards you07:32
sockpuppe1concept10: whats so good about it?07:32
Carpe_LibertatemI guess I can try again07:32
benjamin1254its a beast and a half to get it  and then takin it out is a whole other story07:32
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concept10sockpuppe1, faster!!!!!!07:32
no_dammagEDr_Willis: mounted and rechrooted07:32
nicholaspauli always check for typos (sorry if thats too obvious:) )07:32
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sockpuppe1concept10 could you possibly help me?07:33
concept10sockpuppe1, more robust07:33
concept10sockpuppe1, with?07:33
oferetpfp, there we go, here is my favorite error07:33
oferetit says07:33
oferetUnable to install the selected kernel07:33
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sockpuppe1well encoding dvd07:33
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Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  i seem to recall making a  soft link  also.. but its been a while. the gentoo docs are different now also. they may of included the steps in their env-update command some how07:33
nicholaspauli got a Q: anyone know how to make autorun discs?07:33
oferetAn error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system07:33
jotibenjamin: there is another plastic button/lock you can use, the web keeps several descriptions for it - maybe lowendmac.com does as well07:33
oferetKernel package: 'linux-386'.07:33
concept10sockpuppe1, watching a dvd? or making one?07:34
sockpuppe1encoding one to xvid07:34
oferethow can I fix it ? (pfp)07:34
CptSHow do i remove alsa completly so it won't load up on startup and so that x and gnome app's that require sound won't look for it?07:34
no_dammagEDr_Willis: well, mounting /proc didn't help :/07:34
oferetanyone /07:34
oferet?07:34
FrafraI'm on breezy. I've an usb mouse with scroll, but I can't scroll. what i must activate?07:34
jotibenjamin: you'll need a fully working system to replace the old hd with nevertheless. and mention: its als scsi07:34
sockpuppe1i get a mpeg error when I try to play the movie (xvid)07:34
dv_anjuta is still version 1.2.2 in hoary?07:34
no_dammagEDr_Willis: ill google for chroot07:34
dv_is there a stable anjuta 2 ?07:34
dv_ah, no, just googled :)07:35
Dr_Willisno_dammagE,  doing that now.. cant find any good sites yet.. You check the ubuntu wiki yet? for grub/lilo restore07:35
oferetpeople, I got a red screen -> yaikes07:35
nicholaspaulFrafra - try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:35
oferethelp07:35
oferetmy pc does not like the ubuntu kernel package07:35
dv_oferet, ati drivers?07:35
nicholaspaulfrafra - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57794&highlight=scroll+usb07:35
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oferetwhat do you mean ?07:36
Frafrathx nicholaspaul07:36
no_dammagEDr_Willis: there is nothing regarding lilo07:36
oferetthe computer is a old07:36
nicholaspaul:-) frafra07:36
oferetI do not think it has an ATI video card(if that is what you mean)07:36
nicholaspaulred screen? ooo... (jk)07:36
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sockpuppe1which do you guys think is better LiLo or GRUB?07:36
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srijithlet the bootloader war begin07:37
srijith:)07:37
oferetye red screen is serious07:37
nicholaspaul:S07:37
benjamin1254joti i have a full working pc07:37
oferetred screen of ...... (fill in)07:37
benjamin1254not mac though07:37
nicholaspaulworse than blue screen?07:37
CptShelp, anyone? :(07:37
benjamin1254macs are 1 thing i dont have07:37
oferetwell the damn thing does not work.. so I figure its equal07:37
benjamin1254besides 1 old school mac07:37
MAPDanyone here ever played cs1.6 on linux?07:37
MAPD:P07:37
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nicholaspaulwassup cpts?07:38
nicholaspauli got a q i got a q :)07:38
etkeri cant unmount my DVD ....   and my computer (an iMac!) has no eject button  :-/07:38
jotibenjamin: sound like you're in trouble then...there are plenty of old macos-cds sold on ebay07:38
nicholaspaulanyone know how to make an autorun disc, like on a pc but in ubuntu?07:38
mr_daemonHey is anyone here knowledgable about mol (mac-On-Linux)07:38
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CptSnicholaspaul: I want to remove alsa.. and need some help...07:39
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pfpoferet: sorry, /me was on the phone07:39
nicholaspaulyou should be able to uninstall with synaptic07:39
oferetdid u see the error i got ?07:39
pfpoferet: can't install kernel?07:40
oferetyep07:40
nicholaspaulaltho i'm afraid i've played with alsa alot and got really frustrated !!! (CptS)07:40
gmoorehow do you make an init script to run something at boot time?07:40
Seveasnicholaspaul, fortunately that 'autorun' feature is disabled by default07:40
Seveasit's a good way for spreading viruses07:40
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nicholaspaulserveas - it is? oh my !!07:40
pfpoferet: how old is your computer? maybe you need to create a /boot partition near the start of the disk07:40
nicholaspaulthx serveas - well thats saved me a ton of research - what about inc. a swf that can be run manually?07:41
benjamin1254joti: how would i get a old school mac cd cuz i dont have a paypal accnt and dont know ne way of what to do for filling out my information..... u might wana pm me for this 1 lol07:41
oferetvery old07:41
oferetit's a PII07:41
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oferetI cna get the whole specs list07:41
oferetbut it's old07:41
benjamin1254i have an old pII i submerged in oil and it runs07:41
mmoscosaquestion...07:41
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mmoscosawhy cant i play videos on totem movie player07:42
oferetwhich oil would yu recommend me to use ?07:42
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benjamin1254di electric oil07:42
mmoscosaive downloaded the xine-nui07:42
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sockpuppe1clues anyone?07:42
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Seveasmmoscosa, what type of video?07:42
mmoscosaSeveas .avi07:42
Seveasmmoscosa, might be divx, you need w32codecs for that07:43
pfpoferet: what we're interested in is your partition setup and if your bios has some disk size limit, don't remember which atm....07:43
mmoscosaSeveas synaptic?!07:43
CptSnicholaspaul: how do i use synaptic?07:43
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sockpuppe1seveas, i've got a question07:43
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Seveasmmoscosa, it's in hoary-extras, look at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org for a url07:43
MAPDhow to install all codecs needs for movies?07:43
srijithmmoscosa: vlc player would help?07:43
Seveassockpuppe1, then ask :)07:43
kemikVLC for official player!! :)07:44
sockpuppe1when I encode .vob to .avi I get this mpeg error07:44
sockpuppe1from the avi07:44
Seveassockpuppe1, I know nothing about vob encoding, sorry07:44
pfpoferet: do you have something else on the disk already, like windows?07:44
sockpuppe1its cool07:44
oferetno onthing07:45
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oferetI think the bios allows large partitions07:45
oferetdamn07:45
pfphmm07:45
oferetok, this is stupid, cause I am not sure07:45
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oferetso what kind of specs are the minimum to install this system07:45
oferetor is there a list of things I should get07:45
benjamin1254did u know there is a theme out to make ur linux box look like windows xp?07:46
pfpp2 is still fine, maybe not for gnome though07:46
oferetI'll get it and we'd have a normal conversation, cause I am not sure of anything07:46
pfp:)07:46
kemikoferet:  if you want gnome on a p2, you need at least 256mb of ram07:46
oferetI jsut want to install ubuntu and run a server to pracice JSP PHP MySQL and more07:46
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oferetI do not know what gnome is anyway07:46
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pfpgnome is a nice, but fat,  desktop environment07:47
kemikoferet:  for a server install a p2 is fine i guess. im running debian on my server, but that's because ubuntu wasnt around 3 years ago =)07:47
oxezis it me or the xchat version on the package tree is a bit outdated?07:47
oferetno..I need something light to run a server rather than have a nice desktop envrionment07:47
ValiSystMhello, i'm under breezy and i got a blank sreen when i boot on 2.6.12 kernel with framebuffer07:47
ValiSystMany idea ?07:47
pfpoferet: you could do a server installation then07:47
kemikoferet:  just a server install is fine07:47
oferetexactly I wanted to install debian as well and I Was told that ubuntu is better07:47
pfpoferet: when you 1st boot the cd, type "server"07:48
oferetI tried07:48
paxif gnome is fat then what's kde, obese? :c)07:48
oferetI get the same error07:48
kemikpax :P07:48
oferetobese hahahahah funny07:48
oferetok I'll reboot system,07:48
Seveaspax, rofl :)07:48
jadedstarpax beached whale :-P07:48
srijithoferet: is this still discussion on ur kernel error?07:48
sockpuppe1anyone know about .vob encoding?07:48
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oferetyes07:49
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srijithwhat is your mount partition like?07:49
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oferetwell I tried to install and I get a kernel erro07:49
oferetnothing07:49
srijithparitions..07:49
oferetI have nothing there07:49
oferetI am making a clean install07:49
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srijithyou didnt get to the point where you had to specify the partitions? in the install steps?07:50
oferetI am going to make it a server installation...07:50
oferetI did07:50
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oferetbut I am restarting07:50
oferetsec07:50
pfpoferet: you should try making the first partition around 30-100 MB and assigning it to /boot07:50
lampshadeHey, is AMD K7 the same as Athlon XP?  I was going to upgrade my kernel image to one specifically for the athlon, but I want to double check what I'm doing in case the k7 is something different entirely.07:50
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oferetok I'll do that now07:50
srijithpfp's point exactly07:50
srijithkeep /boot as your first partition07:50
srijithwithin 100MB07:50
ValiSystMlampshade, XP is a newer version of the K707:51
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oferetI'll make it 100 just to be sure07:51
oferetI mean what is optimal ?07:51
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MFenwhat's a good smtp server? postfix?07:51
lampshadeso the kernel image of the 2.6.10 on AMD K7 is not it I take it then?  (I'm looking at that apt-cache search results)07:51
srijithhaha.. I had set aside about 80M and I just use 11M!07:51
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pfpoferet: you can get around with even 10 MB, but space lets you experiment with different kernels07:52
srijithunless you are into compiling kernels for supper, you dont need anything more than 100 I think07:52
oferetwell I am willing to set aside even more, just to make it work07:52
ValiSystMlampshade, the  2.6.10 will work on your xp07:52
ValiSystM(i am running on)07:52
pfpthough 100 MB is definately enough :)07:52
oferetin that case I'll stick to 10007:52
srijithoferet: actually setting aside more may creat problems!07:52
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ValiSystMlampshade, the 2.6.10-k ;)07:52
ValiSystMlampshade, the 2.6.10-k7 ;)07:53
srijithremember we are putting /boot as first for a reason!07:53
pfpsrijith is indeed correct .)07:53
svuwhere would I take the cd image of the last breeze beta?07:53
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oferetok I just set up the network manually again07:53
oferetnow to the hd partition07:53
sockpuppe1what is the colony thing about07:53
oferetwhat other partitions should I have ?07:53
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srijithoferet: swap07:53
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srijithoferet: /home07:54
srijithoferet: /07:54
krisgtesting07:54
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srijithoferet: that I would say is the minimum07:54
oferetso the first one is going ot be boot = 100mb07:54
oferetswat second ?07:54
oferethow big ?07:54
grosvu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-3/07:54
pfpoferet: how big a disk have you got?07:54
sockpuppe1brb07:54
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oferet6.4 g07:54
srijithabout the same as your RAM?07:55
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Carpe_LibertatemOk - I changed my res to 1600x1200 in xorg.conf, but I am only getting options for 1280x768 and lower in Gnome's screen res properties, and the screen is obviously not 1600x120007:55
lampshadeValiSystM, you sure I'm good going with the K7 for my athlon XP?07:55
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ValiSystMlampshade, yep07:55
Concord_Dawncan someone help me with setting up FTPd?07:55
ValiSystMgo on07:55
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: does your card support higher res?07:55
Carpe_LibertatemDoes in Windows.07:55
Carpe_Libertatem=P07:55
ValiSystMlampshade,  but keep your i38607:55
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ValiSystMwe never knows07:56
oferetok is boot primary ?07:56
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srijithCarpe_Libertatem: and you got the right driver?07:56
lampshadeok07:56
oferetI have no idea when it comes to partitioning for linux07:56
lampshadesounds good, thanks07:56
srijithoferet: yup07:56
Carpe_LibertatemNot sure.07:56
Carpe_LibertatemHow would I find out?07:56
oferetbeginning I guess07:56
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pfpoferet: you could just use /boot + swap + / , ie. everything else on the third partition. otherwise you could find yourself having empty space where you don't need it and vice versa07:56
Impulse29I have a laptop with a 1280x800 resolution... what can I do so ubuntu live runs?07:56
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chezi'm having trouble building an application from source, can someone give me a hand?07:56
lampshadeoferet, I didn't know partitions till Gentoo made me do it by hand07:56
srijithI don't know much of hw.. but letting us know what card u have would be start!07:57
reiki_workI just gave Ubuntu the whole brand new 160GB hard drive so I could play! :)07:57
Carpe_LibertatemI have a Radeon 9200 SE07:57
Impulse29srijith, me?07:57
oferetwell if I am making a boot partiton I assumed its called boot, but no I have 10 names options07:57
whistlerstaghello, can somebody tell me where i can find a german channel?07:57
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srijithoferet: u can keep all of them primary since u dont havemore than /, /home, /boot07:57
lampshadesomething that honestly, isn't necessary for people07:57
emitrax--hi07:57
srijithImpulse29: nope, sorry07:57
MovieTrailerManI can only seem to get firefox to run as a root07:57
lampshadelampshade, partitioning by hand that is07:57
oferetext3, ext2 reserFS JFS XFS FAt16 and 32, sawp07:57
no_dammagEDr_Willis: I think I managed it. the point was that in my fstab my /mnt/hda8 (the root) was mounted as noexec,user,auto (what is= nodev), I modified it to use only the dev option and it seems: Added ubuntu *07:57
oferetswap*07:57
svugro:  shit. safari cannot find the server - while firefox can. isn't it great?:)07:58
MovieTrailerManIs there any security implications running firefox as root?07:58
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pfpoferet: ext3; that's the filesystem type07:58
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oferetok07:58
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no_dammagEDr_Willis: I'll reboot and come back with results - maybe we will learn both from this one :)07:58
oferetmount point /07:58
nubbeHow do I prelink gnome-terminal the gnome-menu?07:58
Carpe_Libertatemsrijith - DID YOU GET THAT?07:58
Secretusi have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox07:58
Carpe_Libertatemer07:58
emitrax--question: I tried to install ubuntu on a AMD 64, at my dad's office. The computer freezed right away... couldn't even start the kernel...07:58
Carpe_Libertatemsorry on the caps07:58
pittiMovieTrailerMan: why the hell you want to do this?07:58
pfpoferet: mount point for boot is /boot07:58
srijithchoose ext3 if you want to play safe07:58
oferetis there something else I should add07:58
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Concord_Dawncan anyone help me with setting up FTPd?07:59
grosvu: gotta love firefox ;)07:59
oferet:) tnx07:59
Impulse29in the ubuntu live, are the resolutions with the (*) enabled, or does that disable them?07:59
emitrax--does anybody know why? or what I can do ?07:59
pr1smhey all, I am very new to ubuntu and was wondering how I find out what kernel I have, I need to know for an ATI driver update, I have 5.0407:59
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oferetanything else I should add in this partition, I see options such as typical usage, and bootable flag07:59
MovieTrailerMansvu, svu that's a user problem07:59
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: no exerience with Radeon.. anyone knows which driver for Radeom 9200SE?07:59
MovieTrailerMannot a safari problem07:59
emitrax--pr1sm: uname -a07:59
svugro: I do. Just happy for macos users:)07:59
oferetI think it should have the bootable flag right ?07:59
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darkheartImpulse29 I don't know what the * is, but commented lines are preceded by #07:59
Concord_Dawnpr1sm, you probably have kernel 2.6.10 though.07:59
svuMovieTrailerMan: I know:)07:59
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: try google and found out the correct X driver07:59
MovieTrailerManSafari is the greatest idea of Steve Job's yet. a browser that is a work of PURE GENIUS!!07:59
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srijithunless someone else can help08:00
pr1smthanks a lot emitrax08:00
Carpe_Libertatemsrijith - how do I find out which driver I am usign now?08:00
MovieTrailerManSteve Jobs is infallable, therefore, Safari is infallable08:00
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njanpr1sm, uname -v08:00
pfpoferet: actually it (bootable flag)'s not necessary, doesn't hurt though08:00
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oferetok done08:00
njanpr1sm, uname -a will give you a load of information on your kernel, uname -v just gives you the version.08:00
Impulse29darkheart, when I go through the ubuntu live start, it asks me what resolution I want for my monitor, and it lists them... I don't know whether a * is enabling them (to the right), or if it disables them08:00
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pfpoferet: otherwise defaults are fine08:00
oferetso I have to create now more partitions, which ones ?08:00
groImpulse29: * enables them08:00
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pr1smok ty08:00
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:00
oferetone more or 2 more ?08:00
Impulse29thank you:) I had it opposite:)08:00
Secretusi have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox08:01
emitrax--question: I tried to install ubuntu on a AMD 64, at my dad's office. The computer freezed right away... couldn't even start the kernel...  does anybody know why? is it a known bug ?08:01
pfpoferet: then swap, 500M - 1G08:01
MrPocketshey,  i have some files on my windows HDD, and i want a short cut to them on my linux HDD withought actualy copying the folder over,  how can i just create a short cut to a directory?08:01
oferet1 G then08:01
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: search for Section Device and associated driver08:01
groSecretus: what is the error?08:01
oferetwhich would leave me 5.3 G to play with08:01
Hikaru79Does anyone know how wireless card support stands in ubuntu? Is it generally auto-detected on install? If not, is there a wiki guide to getting Wireless cards up and running? Thanks =)08:01
oferetcool ?08:01
ishitanyone here knows any good tutorial for kino video editing softaware08:01
ValiSystMSecretus, try with aptitude08:01
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pfpoferet: plenty08:01
Impulse29MrPockets, make an alias08:01
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SecretusValiSystM:What is aptitude ? Sorry, i'm new08:01
Petite_Youssalut08:01
oferetbeginning as well08:01
oferetswap hmm -> lets see08:02
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ValiSystMSecretus, aptitude is same thing as apt-get, but better ;)08:02
nubbemenu-driven apt-get with some extras08:02
SecretusValiSystM: Is it the same command ?08:02
k1ngi'm trying to mount multiple drives (NTFS). I looked this up on ubuntuguide.org and it shows me how to mount 1 drive (which i successfully did), but i'm not sure how to mount another drive.08:02
Concord_Dawnaptitude uses apt-get.08:02
oferetI made all hte partitoins primary08:02
Concord_Dawnit's just a GUI for it.08:02
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srijithoferet: great :)08:02
oferetI made all hte partitoins primary08:03
oferetthe 5.3 should be ext2 right ?08:03
ishithey anyone any help on kino08:03
ValiSystMConcord_Dawn, and depency checks08:03
Impulse29starting ubuntu live it says "temporary error naming resolution"08:03
pfpoferet: ext3 is better08:03
k1ng"/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0" is what i have for my first.. do i just change the /dev/hda1 to the right drive and leave everything else the same?08:03
srijithext3 or ext2.. ur choice, I would go with ext308:03
oferethahah :) thank you <-------- retard over here08:03
ValiSystMit makes the difference08:03
Impulse29I hear noise though08:03
Concord_Dawnk1ing: same thing as mounting the other drive, except choose a different mountpoint08:03
oferetwhat's teh difference ?08:03
oferetI mean I am making it ext3 but how does it work ?08:03
pfpext3 has journaling08:03
grok1ng: change /dev/hda1 to the right drive and change /media/windows to an other mount point08:03
ValiSystMaptitude makes suggestions on depency problems08:04
oferetI see that ... but what does it mean?08:04
srijithoferet: do you really want to get into file systems right now :)?08:04
pfpheh08:04
oferetwell depends on how long and complex the explanation is08:04
k1ngi tried using /media/storage but it says that it doesnt exist. how can I create it?08:04
oferetI am not thick... but .. u know curious08:04
k1ngnever mind08:04
nubbemkdir /media/storage08:04
grok1ng: mkdir /media/storage ;)08:04
srijithoferet: gogole is the master.. it will teach you more than any of us08:04
k1nghehe.. i should think before i ask :)08:04
srijithhmm.. google08:04
k1ngthanks for the help08:04
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grok1ng: np08:05
oferetfair enough I will do so now08:05
oferetso now its formating and soon I'll get the kernel error again ... or maybe not we'll c08:05
srijithI am seeing a strange situation with my USB dongle08:05
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srijithI have partitioined it to a fat32 and ext3..08:06
pfpoferet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system08:06
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srijithwhen I automaount the thing, I get three dirs inside /media08:06
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srijithtwo of which are ok, the fat32 and ext3.. but the 3rd seems to be the /dev/sdb as a whole!08:06
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srijithanyone know why thi happens? happends in FC also08:07
grosrijith: maybe a problem with the partition table of the usb stick?08:07
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oferetcool now I understand more or less how it work08:08
oferetits just a safety feature08:08
ValiSystM"just" hehe08:08
ofereta better file system, easier to backup I guess and more :) but I am still reading08:08
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AbsenthWonder how long it'll be before Ubuntu get's ported to this.08:09
Secretusi have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox08:09
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srijithgro: fdisk says fine.. any other way to check?08:09
Absenthhttp://www.projectblackdog.com/site/product.html08:09
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compdudelibtrash makes it safe to run as root :)08:09
srijithoferet: like your curious nature :)08:09
groSecretus: what is the error you get?08:09
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dvubuntu tries to activate eth0 when booting08:09
ValiSystMSecretus, tell us what apt-get says08:09
dvis there a way to prevent this?08:09
th0rhello togheter i have a problem i need to install some applications to my system ... before i used Kanotix i just typed in root console apt-get install XXX that all folks now running ubuntu and this schematic doesent work anymore why`?08:10
dvthis is a laptop, and its not permanently connected08:10
Absenthdv, you could disable the nic in bios.08:10
dvthus, I want to explicitely activate eth0 in the network dialog08:10
SecretusI will in a minute, just accidentaly closed terminal08:10
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tenco_hi08:10
dvif I need it08:10
Frafrahi all08:10
Absenthdv, although I think on the OS side is a better idea :)08:10
tenco_i have problems here with a dlink dwl-g52008:10
oferetwell thank you sir. But I see that it works under teh assumptions that the operations are atomic. I wonder how realistic is that08:10
grosrijith: sorry idea how to check it, but when uou automount do you get 2 or 3 shortcuts on the desktop?08:10
Frafrai need mcrypt module for python. where can i found it?08:11
srijithdv: my extreme method -> http://www.srijith.net/publications/ubuntu-nc6120.shtml08:11
dvi guess I can remove it from the runlevels08:11
th0rhello togheter i have a problem i need to install some applications to my system ... before i used Kanotix i just typed in root console apt-get install XXX that all folks now running ubuntu and this schematic doesent work anymore why`?08:11
th0rhello togheter i have a problem i need to install some applications to my system ... before i used Kanotix i just typed in root console apt-get install XXX that all folks now running ubuntu and this schematic doesent work anymore why`?08:11
th0r:)08:11
tenco_-> ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL Status 1308:11
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srijithdv: search for "Slow bootup?"08:11
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Secretusi have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox08:11
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Secretusthat's waht it says08:11
Secretusand firefox doesn't work08:11
yccheokis there any nice What u c is wat u get HTML editor to be recommance in ubuntu?08:12
srijithgro: I don't have a desktop.. :) Usinf fluxbox but yes /media shows usbdisk, usbdisk-1 and usbdisk-208:12
th0rhuman beeings lol08:12
th0rbullshit08:12
tenco_can someone help me please with my wlan card?08:12
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svuanyone running latest ubuntu on power g5 ?08:12
kemiktenco_:  done the ndiswrapper howto ?08:12
srijithgro: in FC3, I get three shortcuts08:12
kemik!ndiswrapper08:12
uboturumour has it, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:12
tenco_kemik: no, its an atheros card08:13
tenco_kemik: ?08:13
kemiktenco_:  follow the link08:13
tenco_kemik: a dlink dwl-g52008:13
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Secretusmozilla-firefox is already the newest version.08:13
SecretusYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:08:13
SecretusThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:13
Secretus  mozilla-firefox-gnome-support: Depends: firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed08:13
SecretusE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).08:13
Secretusthat's what it says, and firefox doesn't work08:14
ubuntuubuntu = yay!!08:14
apokryphosSecretus: not a good idea to flood the channel.08:14
Secretusbut wait08:14
Secretusapokryphos: I copied and paste an error message08:14
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apokryphosSecretus: Yes. Please read the /topic always when entering a channel08:14
kemik!patebin08:14
ubotukemik: Syntax error in line 108:14
kemik!pastebin08:15
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:15
tenco_kemik: but its an atheros card. shouldnt that work with the madwifi driver?08:15
dvbut this disables the entire hotplug feature08:15
kemikSecretus:  read what ubotu pasted08:15
grosrijith: try to recreate the partitions, and otherwise maybe time to submit a bug report ;)08:15
dvit must be possible to just prevent startup at boot08:15
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pittimdz: yes, -ar is the only package, fixing now08:15
SecretusOh sorry08:15
kemiktenco_:  dont know :)08:15
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theD3viLIs possible that ubuntu was working slow when i was using my own desktop image... now works good ?08:15
srijithdv: yes.. , you try play around with the init using bum?08:15
kemikSecretus:  did you try apt-get -f install ?08:16
tenco_kemik: ok, i will try it...08:16
tenco_kemik: thx so far08:16
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groSecretus: try the next xommando: sudo apt-get install firefox-gnome-support08:16
srijithgro: don't wanna recreate... has my GPG signing key there!08:16
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kemiktenco_:  np08:16
Secretuskemik: yes, the same message08:16
kemiknow: tv08:16
Secretusgro: I will try08:16
alnichallo all08:16
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ishitwen u download n instal thru console where r the packages stored08:16
dvwhat is bum?08:16
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tristanmikehello all08:16
zukalkhi08:17
groSecretus: you will get another error, bu then we can find out which packages is creating the erros08:17
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zukalkdv, bum is boot-up manager08:17
grosrijith: ok, maybe time to file a bug report ;)08:17
dvI cant find it08:17
dvapt-cache search bum says nothing useful08:18
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titaniululzhow do i run something as root from the menu?08:18
meuserj|worktopic contradiction:"Please don't use Breezy yet" | "Colony 3 is available for testing"08:18
MovieTrailerManwhat is the kde icon set that comes with kubuntu08:18
MovieTrailerMan?08:18
srijithtest!=use08:18
srijithtest = abuse08:18
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srijith:)08:18
meuserj|workhow do you test it without using it?08:18
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dvso where is bum?08:18
Secretusgro:I used to get error messages, but now not anymore , firefox still doesn't work though08:18
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srijithbum = bootup manager08:19
zukalkdv, it doesn't come with hoary08:19
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titaniululzi'm trying to run a gtk+ app and it needs to be run as root. when i run it from the gnome menu it doesn't start as root and just breaks. when i run it from a terminal it says gtk warning cannot open display, connection refused by server. how can i run it as root from the menu?08:19
zukalkdv, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4212908:19
meuserj|workI understand though.. test it if you know what you are doing... avoid it if you are a newbie...08:19
srijithdv: synaptic, apt-get08:19
groSecretus: try starting firefox from the console08:19
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dvI could use sys-rc.conf too08:19
zukalkdv: found it: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html08:19
srijithdv: sure I gues08:19
groSecretus: command = mozilla-firefox08:20
dvbut I cant find that too08:20
dvapt-cache and synaptic cant find it08:20
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Secretusgro:Nope08:20
srijithdv: zukalk provided a URL.. I guess you need to add the repos08:20
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zukalksrijith, dv, it's not about repos, just download the .deb08:21
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MAPDany replace for msn08:21
MAPDwith webcam support?08:21
SecretusaMSN08:21
mindampi have tried vsftpd and proftpd, and whenever i login to ftp with a regular user... it doesn't list the remote directory...08:21
mindampit just hangs08:21
mindampany suggestions?08:21
srijithzukalk: oh ok.. must be that sorry for wrong info.. I just checked synaptic and it was there.. so I guess it was always listed :)08:22
srijithMAPD: gaim08:22
srijithMAPD: hmmm webcamm.. donno :)08:22
dvoh08:22
dvyeah08:22
dv:)08:22
meuserj|workthere's always gaim-vv...08:22
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gmoorehow can i run a gtk app as root?08:22
mindampsudo08:23
mindampcan anyone help with this ftpd problem?08:23
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Secretusn ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ?08:23
zukalksrijith, you're using Hoary or Breezy?08:23
MAPDamsn08:23
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gmoorewhen i try it from terminal it doesn't load, when i do it from the gnome menu it loads but says it needs to be run as root. how do i run as root from the gnome menu?08:23
darkheartmindamp What do you mean it doesn't list it?08:23
MAPDis supposed to work with webcam08:23
meuserj|worknevermind.. gaim-vv doesn't support msn08:23
srijithzukalk: Hoary.. laptop too precious for Breezy :)08:23
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ompaulnot much08:24
mindampit doesn't list any remote directory08:24
mindampor anything in the directory for that matter08:24
zukalksrijith, that's weird. here's what it says: BUM is currently in Debian unstable and Ubuntu breezy repositories. These users can just apt-get it. Other users of debian-derivative distro's (i.e. Ubuntu Hoary) can just download the .deb package08:24
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mindampi did apt-get install proftpd08:24
Frafrahi all08:24
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dvhmm08:24
mindamplogged in as regular user no problem.. but i can't change directories.. or even get a listing of any directory08:24
ompaulaudio is better setup08:24
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srijithzukalk: once you dpkg doen't it get listed in synaptic?08:24
ReleaseXdoes anyone else have their text garbled up when booting08:25
FrafraI need python2.4-mcrypt for breezy amd64. where can I found it?08:25
dvi guess all I have to do is disable the "networking" script at startup08:25
zukalksrijith, yes, but i thought you didn't have it installed08:25
srijithzukalk: I did..08:25
srijithdv didnt08:25
darkheartmindamp Sounds like you need to spend some time reading documentation for your ftp server settings.08:25
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srijithdv: I hope so for your won good ;)08:25
dvI didnt do what?08:25
srijiths/won/own08:25
titaniululzi can't run any visual apps from the terminal (eg mozilla-firefox). i get the error >   Xlib: connection to "unix:1000.0" refused by server  Xlib: No protocol specified08:25
Secretusi have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ?08:25
mindampany help?08:25
ompaulReleaseX, that is usually an indication that your video card is not supported or doing something strange08:26
mindampsecretus.. what do you mean you can't remove it08:26
mindampapt-get remove firefox08:26
srijithdv: have bum installed08:26
zukalkSecretus, have you been using backports? i had the sane problem the other day08:26
dvi just installed it08:26
dvhmm08:26
dvnetworking is an S script08:26
zukalksame*08:26
Secretusmindamp: I know, but that gives errors08:26
dvnot removable08:26
mindampwhat errors08:26
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Secretuszukalk: And what did you do to solve it ?08:26
NightRiderHello08:26
mindampsecretus.. try using synaptic08:27
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srijithdv: can't you just do a ifup when you attach the cable?08:27
Belutz!java08:27
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ubotuwell, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:27
srijith:)08:27
Dizzlehey guys08:27
mindampcould someone help with ftpd?08:27
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NightRiderI have 4 psyBNC:s running, from different folders, and now I need to shut down one (the correct one) of them08:27
Dizzlethis is a dumb question, but I just installed ubuntu, and it won't let me log on ; ;08:27
zukalkSecretus, dunno if it's a good solution, but i manually did a dpkg -i --force-overwrite of the .deb that was in the apt cache08:27
Secretusmindamp: Can't start up synaptic, it asks for my password and when I enter it, the application just doesn't start08:27
NightRiderHow do I know which is the right one?08:27
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zukalkSecretus, and it worked08:27
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mindampftp help please08:28
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mindamp /\08:28
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apokryphosDizzle: well, what's the error08:28
Rebsany cvscedega champs on?08:28
Secretuszukalk: I'm very new to linux, if you want, could you list the full command you did it with ?08:28
dvsrijith, if I activate eth0 in the "Network" dialog08:28
Dizzleapok: it says invalid username and password08:28
dvdoes it just that? ifup?08:28
Dizzlebut I never gave it a username or password08:28
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roham_!theme08:28
uboturoham_: Bugger all, i dunno08:28
DizzleI just installed it..08:28
roham_!themes08:28
ubotuwell, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com08:28
srijithdv: I think so..08:28
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apokryphosDizzle: in the install, you certainly did....08:28
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darkheartmindamp Have you configured your ftp server at all?08:28
rob^^^is there a switch to set default screen depth on the livecd?08:29
srijithdv: I am not much of GUI person08:29
th4_banditsrijith, can u help us install ubuntu ? it wont pick up this SATA drive08:29
zukalkSecretus, find the .deb of the new firefox version that you tried to install. it's in /var/cache/apt/archives/08:29
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Rebsgetting a page fault at 0x000000 when i load eq with cvs08:29
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srijithth4_bandit: sorry.. I have no exerience with SATA.. am a pretty lousy person when it comes to hardwares08:29
mindampdarkheart... why yes08:29
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srijithth4_bandit: just ask the crowd.. maybe they can help08:30
mindampis everyone here half retarded?08:30
th4_banditcrowd???08:30
darkheartmindamp Only you08:30
mindampright08:30
mindampive seen this problem on gentoo before...08:30
mindampbut vsftpd didn't have it08:30
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mindampso unemerged the others..08:30
mindampbut in ubuntu for some reason08:30
th4_banditcan any one help me with SATA and Ubuntu???08:30
mindampthey all have this problem08:30
darkheartmindamp What makes you think someone wants to help you now that you've tried to insinuate that we are all half retarded?08:30
apokryphosno ops around? Hm.08:31
mindampremission?08:31
darkheartWhy don't you go to #gentoo then?08:31
DizzleI dont remember giving it a user name though... :(08:31
darkheartor #proftpd08:31
Secretuszukalk: And then double click it ?08:31
darkheartor #vsftpd08:31
mindamphah08:31
zukalkSecretus, no08:31
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mindampcause this is a ubuntu problem08:31
mindamphas nothing to do with the ftpd08:31
mindampbut if you weren't half-retarded...08:31
zukalkSecretus, just copy/remember that filename08:31
Secretusok08:31
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DanteAlighierimindamp: Half retarded? ;)08:32
apokryphosmdz Seveas: please ban/kick mindamp08:32
darkheartmindamp I probably could help you..but..I just don't feel like it now =)08:32
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zukalkSecretus, then open a console and type: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite [filename] .deb08:32
Secretusok, i'll try it08:32
mindampsure you could08:32
roham_How do I but transparency and shadows to the menues?08:32
mindampretard08:32
mindamp:-)08:32
DanteAlighieri!lart mindamp08:32
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DanteAlighieri;)08:32
mdzmindamp: calm down, there's no need for that08:32
Secretusme is retard?08:32
DanteAlighieriNow your mojo is gone!08:32
zukalkSecretus, wait, it's /var/cache/apt/archives/[file] .deb08:32
darkmattermindamp: retarded? that's slightly..well..rude.08:32
darkheartLoL08:33
mindampis not...08:33
mindampjust blunt08:33
mindamplike what i smoked this morning08:33
ReleaseXanyone have experience installing the latest drivers for orinoco cards?08:33
apokryphosmindamp: no, just silly.08:33
Secretuszukalk : Ok08:33
mindampcause i knew id have to deal with retards...08:33
DanteAlighierimindamp likes the ganja08:33
dvok.08:33
apokryphos:|08:33
tristanmikeyou could have said, learning disabled08:33
srijithth4_bandit: what is the problem as such?08:33
mdzmindamp: that was a warning08:33
dvnow on to a heavyweight: ati drivers08:33
dv:08:33
dv:)08:33
mindampwhat was a warning?08:33
zukalkSecretus,  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/[filename] .deb08:33
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mindampok then...08:33
mindampnext topic nagios08:33
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darkheartmindamp Keep poking, someone will poke back08:33
th4_banditsrijith, its no picking up my drive08:33
mindampi hope so08:33
roham_anyone? How do I but transparency and shadows to the menues?08:33
DanteAlighieriMindamp is just curious about the incidence of trisomy 21 in #ubuntu, right?08:33
mindampi like being poked08:34
DanteAlighieriOf course, he said "half" retarded...08:34
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srijithth4_bandit: oh.. too low level for me08:34
DanteAlighieriso I guess maybe one-and-a-halfsomy 21?08:34
Secretuszukalk I have to go now, but i'll try it again later, thank you very much08:34
zukalkSecretus, anytime08:34
th4_banditsrijith, do you know how i can boot qanother kernel?08:34
apokryphosDanteAlighieri: d'oh.. I must have missed it. That's a.o.k. then ;-)08:34
omp342i just downloaded ubuntu :)08:34
DanteAlighieriapokryphos: No, he was being rude, I was just being funny08:35
apokryphosDanteAlighieri: I know08:35
th4_banditsrijith, i wanna boot another kenberl at install08:35
srijithth4_bandit: checked forums? looks like there has been some conv. on this topic/08:35
DanteAlighieriDamn08:35
mindampi have to give people some credit if they manage to get the easiest linux distro installed on their pc and hop on irc right08:35
apokryphos=)08:35
mindampthat means they are half their08:35
srijithgrub doesn't list the kernel?08:35
DanteAlighieriapokryphos: I hate being unable to hear tone of voice in IRC. ;)08:35
mindampat least08:35
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ReleaseXanyone have experience installing the latest drivers for orinoco cards?08:35
darkheartmindamp So what are you doing in #proftpd if you said the ftp issue was an Ubuntu one?08:35
DanteAlighierimindamp: you meant "there"... what are you, retarded? ;)08:35
darkheartlol08:36
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srijithdv: what did you settle on?08:36
Hikaru79Does anyone know how wireless card support stands in ubuntu? Is it generally auto-detected on install? If not, is there a wiki guide to getting Wireless cards up and running? Thanks =)08:37
th4_banditcan someone here tell me the command to boot another kernel08:37
dvdisabled the interfaces stuff08:37
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Rebsgot my wmp11v2.7 workin~08:37
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srijithth4_bandit: not listed in grub>?08:37
th4_banditsrijith, no grun its not even installeed yet08:38
srijithdv: like I did or the rc way?08:38
no_dammagEDr_Willis: ok, it worked, but now I'm sitting with a half-broken system - X hasn't been properly installed ...08:38
th4_banditsrijith, we cant install an OS if it cant pick up the drive08:38
srijithth4_bandit: opps.. :) what kernel do you want to install?08:38
mindampchatting about how half there everyone here is08:38
th4_banditsrijith, iono i think there is oen that has sata support08:38
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th4_banditsrijith, maybe 2.6 ??08:39
dvlike you did08:39
th4_banditsrijith, can i list the kernel to boot in the she;;?08:39
th4_banditshell**08:39
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srijithth4_bandit: doesn't Hoary come with 2.6.10?08:40
no_dammagEcan someone tell me why I get /usr/bin/X11/X not found while calling statrx / what do I have to install to get X?08:40
jkezarany reason why the "Screen Resolution" section under "System" only allows me to choose 640x480?08:40
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jkezaris this answered in some ubuntu faq?08:40
th4_banditsrijith, ??08:40
Rebsanybody pretty good with cedega?08:40
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mindampthe more and more i use ubuntu... the more i feel like an infant compared to gentoo08:41
jschroedGo back to gentoo08:41
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jschroedI love having a 4-6% faster system that takes 3 days to compile08:41
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srijithmindamp: try LFS then08:41
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mindampi mean all the faqs are for X08:41
zukalkmindamp, you're obviously too l33t for ubuntu08:41
dvhmm. did apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx08:41
darkheartmindamp LoL I like how you were kicked/banned from #slackware08:41
mindampyeh thats it08:41
mindampl33t08:41
mindamphah08:42
mindampi hate slackware too08:42
mindampbunch of slackers08:42
th4_banditzukalk, can  u help me installing unbuntu with sata drives.. trhey arent being read08:42
srijithth4_bandit: dont think so.. the installer CD comes with only one kernel08:42
no_dammagEwhich pacakge does supply /usr/bin/X11/X?08:42
dvbut now I have to start fglrxconfig, and copy over the xorg.conf settings, or does ubuntu automate this?08:42
jschroedYou should switch to OpenBSD or HP-UX, that might be cool enough for you08:42
srijithth4_bandit: I think.. but I am know to be pretty wrong, most of the time08:42
zukalkth4_bandit, i have no idea how, sorry.08:42
th4_banditokay08:42
jschroedMy servers run HP-UX :-)08:43
Carpe_LibertatemHow can I add a "terminal" session option at Ubuntu login, instead of "Failsafe terminal"?08:43
th4_banditDOES any one here have any expierence with SATA nd UNBUNTU08:43
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Rebsim installed on sata...but my installer had no problem detecting it08:44
Rebshave a8v deluxe motherboard08:44
Rebsusing promise controller08:44
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srijithth4_bandit: is SATA the only drive on ur box?08:45
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darkmattermindamp: how about LFS...you hate it to? ;)08:45
darkheartAwww...I wanted mindamp to get kick/banned..=\08:45
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Carpe_LibertatemHow can I add a "terminal" session option at Ubuntu login, instead of "Failsafe terminal"?08:45
kelseybye08:45
darkheartRebs That's why I said 'awww'08:45
Gatohola08:45
AberMattdoes anyone know how you manually delete a package?08:45
jschroedRebs: I know that the newest kernel release from kernel.org had alot of SATA improvements. Breezy will likely have better SATA support08:45
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Rebsjschroed, i have no problems with my sata...runs at abuot 1600 and 56 or so using hdparm -tT08:46
srijithth4_bandit: ?08:46
th4_banditsrijith, the only hdd08:46
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th4_banditlol08:46
darkheartCarpe_Libertatem Do you really need that option? You can just hit ctrl+alt+f2 to switch to another terminal.08:46
srijithth4_bandit: I asked because of this -> http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/04/10/12/1424244.shtml?tid=12708:46
Carpe_Libertatemwell08:46
Rebsjschroed, it was th4_bandit who needed help08:46
Carpe_LibertatemI'd like to have it.08:46
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jschroedRebs: Oh sorry, CGI IRC through a draconian Pix Firewall08:46
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th4_banditjschroed, can u help me with SATA?08:47
srijithth4_bandit: gave breezy a try?08:47
Rebsjschroed, s'ok, apparently nobody usings cedega here heh08:47
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Carpe_LibertatemI am running Ubuntu inside of VMWare, and I don't need the GUI all the time.08:47
paineshi08:47
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srijithCarpe_Libertatem: can't you intit 3 then?08:47
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jschroedI am not a sata expert, I use SCSI and Fibre Channel mostly08:47
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darkheartCarpe_Libertatem Don't know how to do that, sorry. I bet if you googled 'gdm adding menu options' or something like that, you might find something relevent.08:47
roham_Can somebody help me with Fvwm? I have installed it but dont know how to use it?08:47
roham_please08:47
painesi just installed colony 3 (amd64) and everything runs ! GREAT ! THANKS !08:47
Carpe_Libertateminit 3?08:48
Carpe_Libertatem=P08:48
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: instead of booting into a GUI, boot into CLI08:48
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: you want gdm not running?08:48
titaniululzwhat do i need to edit to control what happens when the system boots up, ie if i want something done every time i start the system?08:48
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meuserj|workCarpe_Libertatem, you can't do that.. gdm loads an X session.. a terminal is not an X session08:48
roham_anyone?08:48
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm08:48
Carpe_LibertatemRight08:48
th4_banditsrijith, mbreezy>?08:49
HappyFooltitaniululz: look in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh -- you could add stuff there08:49
vitriolthat will keep it from running when you boot08:49
HappyFoolyou can also use update-rc.d to disable/enable services (e.g., gdm)08:49
srijithth4_bandit: the development/next version of Ubuntu08:49
pfproham_: what do you want to do with it?08:49
titaniululzok. i got bootupmanager but it doesnt seem to really do anything other than turn things on/off... it doesnt let you add things through it08:49
Carpe_Libertatemall right - and when I want to run it would I just run gdm?08:49
th4_banditsrijith, nope could u link me/08:49
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Carpe_Libertatemlike ./etc/init.d/gdm?08:50
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vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: /etc/init/dgdm start08:50
vitriol:)08:50
roham_pfp: I have themes I have downloaded, isnt there any "manager" for fvwm08:50
Carpe_Libertatemok08:50
meuserj|workCarpe_Libertatem, what you COULD do is create an X session that is nothing but a fullscreen Xterm...08:50
Carpe_Libertatemty08:50
vitrioleh you know what i mean08:50
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HappyFooltitaniululz: i haven't used BUM -- maybe you need to add an appropriate script to /etc/init.d08:50
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HappyFool/etc/init.d/gdm start won't work if you've chmod -x 'ed it ;)08:50
srijithth4_bandit: look at the topic.. anyway here you go -> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-August/046217.html08:50
pfproham_: vi / emacs :)  - seriously, i'm not sure08:50
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HappyFool /etc/init.d/gdm start won't work if you've chmod -x 'ed it ;)08:50
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: you can also control gdm with rcconf08:50
k1ng_i cannot get sound to work in ubuntu. I went to ubuntuguide.org and installed multimedia codecs, and followed the isntructions on how to configure sound in gnome, and im not sure what else i can try. any ideas? (I have a Sound Blaster Live! sound card)08:51
roham_pfp?  heh08:51
Carpe_Libertatemhow do I rever the chmod -x?08:51
Carpe_Libertatemer08:51
Carpe_Libertatemreverse08:51
darkheartCarpe_Libertatem +x08:51
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: chmod +x08:51
Carpe_Libertatem=P08:51
Carpe_Libertatemok08:51
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: it's probably easiest to use rcconf08:51
pfproham_: when i used fvwm i used to edit the configuration by hand08:51
srijithCarpe_Libertatem: what is that you want? boo into a CLI?08:51
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srijithboo=boot08:51
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: you can control more than just gdm with rcconf08:51
darkmatterdisabling gdm is great. especially since i use entrance08:51
omp342if i install ubuntu, i can format the fedora partition and install ubuntu on it from inside the installlation, right?08:51
roham_pfp it should be a manager08:51
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pfproham_: wasn't there any documentation w/ the themes... maybe they are conf file snippets that can be included in .fvwm2rc or something08:52
Carpe_Libertatemvitriol - yes08:52
titaniululzif i just want to call "/etc/init.d/proftpd start" on boot, what would be the easiest way?08:52
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srijithomp342: clean install? sure08:52
vitrioltitaniululz: install rcconf :)08:52
roham_pfp no no doc08:52
omp342no im on a dual boot with windows xp08:52
HappyFooltitaniululz: look at 'update-rc.d'08:52
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pfproham_: well, fvwm isn't really the most intuitive wm08:52
titaniululzHappyFool, where is that?08:53
vitrioltitaniululz: you can control what is started during bootup with rcconf...08:53
srijithomp342: i mean you don't need FC and Ubuntu and XP right?08:53
meuserj|worktitaniululz, update-rc.d proftpd defaults08:53
titaniululzvitriol, i can do it manually just as easily i guess08:53
HappyFooltitaniululz: 'man update-rc.d'  -- it should be installed already08:53
Ex-Cyberhow can I find out what transmission rate a serial port is set to?08:53
darkmatterpfp: twm is. :P08:53
omp342i basically want to replace fedora with ubuntu08:53
Carpe_Libertatemapt-get rccf will work?08:53
omp342and leave xp unchanged08:53
Carpe_Libertatemer08:53
pfpdarkmatter lol08:53
Carpe_Libertatemrcconf08:53
titaniululzso "update-rc.d proftpd start" ?08:54
HappyFooldefaults08:54
HappyFoolnot start08:54
meuserj|workomp342, yes.. you can do that08:54
titaniululzoh ok08:54
srijithomp342: sure you can thrash the parition.. :) YOu can also decide to carry forward your /home if that is on a different parition and resue them on Ubuntu08:54
HappyFoolyou can use invoke-rc.d to start/stop a service08:54
vitriolCarpe_Libertatem: apt-get install rcconf08:54
meuserj|workas root.. so "sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults"08:54
skorahi - in gnome, my bottom applet is no longer working.08:54
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srijiths/resue/reuse08:54
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.08:54
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vitriolyou can use it to control gdm, entrance, acpi, apm and a bunch of other stuff08:54
titaniululzgoing to check if it worked, brb08:54
DanteAlighieriAnyone else having problems with /.?08:55
darkmatterHello EnsignRedShirt08:55
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EnsignRedshirtI am setting up an external hard drive as a backup.  Any reason I shouldn't use ext3 for the filesystem?08:55
omp342and when i do that08:55
omp342will ubuntu replace the fedora bootloader with a new one?08:55
ompaulmiddle button issues in breezy?08:55
vitriolEnsignRedshirt: i prefer fat32 for my external hard drive08:55
roham_pfp what should I use to get a nice wm? with menu shadows and trans.08:55
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roham_psp :P08:55
srijithomp342: yes08:55
omp342okay08:56
omp342:)08:56
vitriolEnsignRedshirt: you can do back-ups for mac, linux and windows on that one drive with fat3208:56
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srijithomp342: personal exprience ..08:56
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vitriolEnsignRedshirt: but if you're just doing back-ups for a linux machine and nothing else ext3 would be fine08:56
Impulse29how can I use my non-standard monitor resolution with ubuntu?08:56
vitriolfat32 has read/write support on just about every platform08:56
vitriolImpulse29: what res?08:57
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Impulse29vitriol, 1024x80008:57
omp342i dont have anymore CD-Rs.. =/ im gonna have to waste a dvd-r :D08:57
srijithvitriol: but it doesn support file locking etc..08:57
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vitriolImpulse29: you can manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make that your resolution08:58
meuserj|workImpulse29, woah... that's a weird resolution...08:58
Impulse29yah, dell i600008:58
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EnsignRedshirtvitriol: Two questions: Is fat32 the same as vfat? (The drive came preformatted, and mount it with -t auto, it shows up as vfat.)  Does fat32 have any restrictions on filenames?08:58
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pfproham_: well, i've been quite happy ever since i switched to gnome and whatever-it-was-this-default-wm-is-called.... it's actually nice when you can't / don't have to tune every detail :)08:58
vitriolEnsignRedshirt: i think vfat is the same08:58
vitriolas fat3208:58
pfproham_: if you want eye candy, maybe enlightenment is for you08:58
meuserj|workEnsignRedshirt, yes fat32 == vfat08:58
keyshawnahh man, i lost my xchat window because I minimized it - i cant see if anyone had any responses or not [cant check log file, ill lose my window again] 08:58
vitriolEnsignRedshirt: you mean file name length? i don't know08:58
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meuserj|workroham_, enlightenment 17 is beautiful08:58
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EnsignRedshirtmeuserj|work: Thanks.08:59
a1zihey08:59
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a1zihey08:59
EnsignRedshirtvitriol: Yes, restriction on file name length, case, etc.08:59
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roham_meuserj|work how does it work? is it under gnome?08:59
a1ziis there a program to back up your linux system like NORTON GHOST does for windows?08:59
vitriolEnsignRedshirt: no restriction on upper case, lower case and special characters.....08:59
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roham_pfp is it easy to use? like its for gnome... gnome is really easy to use09:00
omp342is ext3 the right partition type?09:00
a1ziis there a program to back up your linux system like NORTON GHOST does for windows?09:00
vitriolEnsignRedshirt: there probably is a restriction on file name length in fat32, but i don't know what it is09:00
roham_pfp I be right back need to logout / login09:00
srijithfat32 != vfat09:00
jschroeda1zi: SystemImager is one, there are several others09:00
pfpomp342: yes, almost always09:00
meuserj|workroham_, no.. it's something that runs seperately.. and E17 isn't released yet, so you would either have to compile it from source or find someone who has made packages for it.09:00
omp342ok09:00
a1zijschroed, is it free?09:00
jeremy123whats the command to change your password09:00
srijithomp342: unless you want bleeding edge ...09:00
jeremy123i forgot09:00
apokryphosjeremy123: passwd09:01
srijithjeremy123: passwd09:01
srijithopps :)09:01
jeremy123thanks bye09:01
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zukalkmeuserj|work, i've installed Enlightenment through apt-get, but it doesn't show up in the GDM logon screen09:01
EnsignRedshirtCan a mac read ext3?09:01
DanteAlighieri!start an editor war09:01
ubotunotepad is better than xemacs09:01
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alexis_hi09:01
omp342and one other question: is the setup process different when installing on a SATA harddrive?09:01
roham_pfp where can I find it?09:02
EnsignRedshirtubotu: Right on.09:02
ubotuEnsignRedshirt: Do they come in packets of five?09:02
DanteAlighieri!pfp09:02
ubotuDanteAlighieri: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:02
equexis there a list somewhere with the improvements/changes in breezy?09:02
k1ng_can someone help me get my sound working?09:02
apokryphos!breezy09:02
ubotusomebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/09:02
DanteAlighieriubtotu doesn't know about pfp apparently...09:02
srijithomp342: someone earlier was having trouble with SATA hdd09:02
equexty09:02
omp342=/09:02
mjromp342, not really, unless there's some problem of course09:02
pfp:O09:02
roham_hehe09:02
omp342for example, for fedora all i did was a normal install09:02
DanteAlighieriI'm trying to get 4 SATA drives hooked up via a PCI-E SATA RAID card09:02
omp342it didnt even ask me a question about a SATA hard drive09:02
tenco_how can i prevent kernel modules from being loaded?09:02
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srijithomp342: looks like you are a good test case for Ubuntu :)09:03
meuserj|workzukalk, yeah.. the package doesn't install a session for it... you can make one yourself.. but I'm not sure where it needs to live.  It's been a while since I've had to do that.09:03
pfproham_: apt-get install enlightenment09:03
vitrioltenco_: comment the module out in /etc/modules09:03
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Impulse29vitriol, when the live loads, it says "error : temporary failure in name resolution"09:03
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tenco_vitriol: its not in there09:03
vitrioltenco_: then it shouldn't be loading09:03
roham_pfp is it easy to use?09:03
pfproham_: enlightenment is prolly the complete antithesis of fvwm :)09:03
vitrioltenco_: all modules are listed in there09:03
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zukalkmeuserj|work, okay, i'll do some googling later09:03
tenco_vitriol: no09:03
DanteAlighieriSeriously though, anyone know what's wrong with slashdot?09:03
k1ng_I have a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 card, and i've installed multimedia codexs already (ubuntuguide.org) but I still can't get sound working. Any idas?09:04
pfproham_: hard to say, prolly yes, though it's a few years since i tried it09:04
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tenco_vitriol: wlan, ath_* are loaded but not in /etc/modules09:04
vitriolooohhh09:04
roham_pfp: but is it like a manager thing with it? :P09:04
omp342im burning it right now09:04
vitrioltenco_: is this ndiswrapper stuff?09:04
roham_pfp: really new @ linux sorry for stupid questions :P09:04
tenco_vitriol: no09:05
omp342it should finish burning in 2 minutes :)09:05
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pfproham_: heh, check the project's home page :)09:05
srijithomp342: burning what?09:05
omp342ubuntu cd09:05
tenco_vitriol: i want to prevent the kernel from loading wlan and ath_* modules so that these modules do not interfere with ndiswrapper09:05
roham_!enlightenment09:05
ubotu[enlightenment]  at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4610509:05
vitrioltenco_: you can turn those NIC's off in /etc/network/interfaces09:05
vitriolbeyone that i don't know09:06
roham_pfp: last question how do I install a icon pack? its in a zip file...09:06
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omp342i ordered a free copy from the website since my internet connection isnt fast, but i couldnt wait so i just downloaded the iso (too 4 hours) :)09:06
vitriolbut surely one of the 495 people in here can help you :)09:06
omp342took*09:06
tenco_vitriol: the only interfaces in interfaces(5) are lo and wlan0 (<- ndiswrapper)09:06
meuserj|workroham_, I believe all you have to do is unpack it in a directory in /usr/share/icons09:06
srijithomp342: I remember I ordered one a loong loong time ago and it never arrived.. :)09:07
gmoorea09:07
vitrioltenco_: wlan0 is loaded through ndiswrapper?09:07
tenco_vitriol: yes.09:07
roham_meuserj: thx09:07
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vitrioltenco_: there is a flag to ndiswrapper to uninstall a driver or disable it09:07
srijithomp342: so you might be better off just burning one.. as you are doing niw09:07
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vitrioltenco_: i don't remember what it is but ndiswrapper -h will tell you09:07
alexis_i've got problems with my desktop, I can't be more than 1024x768 why? (sorry for my english)09:07
srijithalexis_, video card limitation?09:08
gmoorei manually made a user and a group for use with an ftp server i've since uninstalled; is it safe to just leave the user/group or should i remove them?09:08
tenco_vitriol: no. ath is a linux kernel driver09:08
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liranhow do i install those transparent cpu/weather bars on the desktop?09:08
ompaul!tell alexis_ about resolution09:08
srijithgmoore: why not delete them.. safer :)09:08
lirani thought that adding them to the panel on gnome is what i wanted, but it isnt.09:08
ompaulalexis that should help you09:08
vitrioltenco_: ath? via madwifi?09:08
tenco_vitriol: yes09:08
omp342yah its done burning09:08
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vitrioltenco_: i haven't had any of those :\ never used madwifi before09:09
srijithomp342: let us know how it goes09:09
alexis_ok thx09:09
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tenco_vitriol: ok09:09
tenco_vitriol: thanks anyway09:09
AberMatt!tell abermatt about resolution09:09
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omp342should i format the fedora partition in ubuntu setup or in partitionmagic?09:09
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ompaulomp342, are you replacing fedora with Ubuntu?09:09
gmooreok i made them with 'groupadd' and 'useradd'... can i just 'groupdel' or something similar?09:09
omp342yes09:10
srijithomp342: if you are thrashing FC, just use Ubuntu setup09:10
ompaulomp342, so it should be Ubuntu then :)009:10
omp342okay09:10
chrismyhi guys which newest PHP and mySQL i should install? i am setting up my website :D09:10
meuserj|workomp342, whatever you prefer.. you can format with more filesystem types if you use the ubuntu partitioner though09:10
HappyFool!lamp09:10
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:10
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gmoorechrismy: i just set up apache2 + php4 + mysql4 and it works09:10
chrismyompaul, hi there09:10
omp342im gonna try installing now, ill be back after im done09:10
kevin_hey how do i use nuatilus cd burner?09:10
ompaulhi chrismy09:11
gmoorechrismy: follow obotu09:11
kevin_like it says its installed09:11
srijithgmoore: man groupdel09:11
kevin_but where is it at?09:11
gmooresrijith: thanks09:11
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chrismygmoore, yes i know lamp and i am running apache2 now. but i just do not know which php and mysql to pick. there are a list of that09:11
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HappyFoolread the wiki page09:11
gmoorechrismy: it says on lamp, php4 mysql409:12
chrismyHappyFool, yes just saw that09:12
liranhow do i install those transparent cpu/weather bars on the desktop? i thought that adding them to the panel on gnome is what i wanted, but it isnt.09:12
broncohow can I add ndiswrapper so it starts up automatically?09:12
liranbronco, man update-rc.d09:12
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HappyFool!ndiswrapper09:13
ubotuI heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper09:13
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ReleaseXbronco, ndiswrapper -m09:13
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tenco_vitriol: found it -> /etc/hotplug/blacklist09:14
x_orIs there a good Gnome RTF reader?  OpenOffice is too bloated.09:14
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vitrioltenco_: oohh congrats09:14
AlrightaGuys, I have 2 OS's installed - Windows and Linux. I want to delete my Windows partition and add the unallocated space to my linux partition - however, in GParted, I cannot edit anything in my linux partition, it has a "lock" icon to the right of the partition. Windows - NTFS, Linux - ext309:14
AlrightaWhat should I do?09:14
srijithliran: looking for GKrellM?09:15
capiAnyone know a good ftp server with strong support for virtual users09:15
gmoorecapi: i just installed proftpd and im configuring it now using gproftpd graphic frontend and it works well09:15
meuserj|workAlrighta, you can't resize a partition that is mounted09:15
meuserj|workAlrighta, the way I get around that is make a custom ubuntu cd with gparted on it.09:16
chrismygmoore, thanks i am reading that page..amazing ;P09:16
Carpe_LibertatemCan anyone tell me how to create a usergroup where all users will have similar restrictions? I want their disc quotas to be about 10mb, only access their home directories, (like, /home/paulyboy/), and run only 4 processes.09:16
HappyFoolmaybe something like knoppix has gparted/qparted09:16
liransrijith, thanks ill look it up in synaptic09:16
meuserj|workAlrighta, live cd that is09:16
cloudreaderAlrighta: or put gparted on a usb drive and boot with alive cd09:16
capigmoore, not a fan of proftpds virtual users, I like vsftpd's control more but it doesn't satisfy me either.09:16
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Alrightameuserj|work, I'm a newbie - can you tell me please what mounting is?09:16
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AlrightaI have Knoppix live CD09:17
Exo0dus#ubuntu-es09:17
gmoorecapi: why dont you like it09:17
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vitriolAlrighta: if you are reading and writing to and from a partition, it is mounted09:17
meuserj|workAlrighta, it means the drive is being used.. kinda...09:17
meuserj|workAlrighta, but just because you aren't reading/writing to the partition at the moment.. it is still mounted unless you explicitly unmount it09:18
AlrightaSo "unmounting" my linux partition will mean I wouldn't be able to 'use' it?09:18
vitriolAlrighta: the command to unmount a partition is unmound /path/to/partition09:18
vitriolAlrighta: to unmount it, you would have to be logged out and not using the partition09:18
meuserj|workAlrighta, right.. so you obviously can't unmount the root partition09:18
srijithany fluxbox users?09:18
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AlrightaI see. Well, so I'll just use my Knoppix live CD.09:18
meuserj|workAlrighta, that'll work09:19
vitriolAlrighta: yes, but does the knoppix cd have gparted on it?09:19
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kevin_what decoder do i need to downlod in order to play mp3 and wmv files?09:19
HappyFool!restricted09:19
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:19
Alrightavitriol, I really hope so.09:19
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HappyFoolcheck for qparted as well; i think knoppix is kde-based09:19
filip_where can i look what harddrive i have in ubuntu ?09:19
srijithI kneel before Wine.. it runs Photoshop!09:19
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HappyFoolfilip_: 'sudo fdisk -l' will tell you all partitions ubuntu can find; not sure if that's what you want09:20
AlrightaBtw, is there any way to "format" linux? I always just delete my partition, is that alright?09:20
meuserj|workAlrighta, it is also pretty easy for an experienced user to make a custom ubuntu live cd.... if you can find someone to make one for you... I would do it for you, but I'm at work right now.09:20
omp342the installation is having trouble reading my cd, i think its because i ran out of cd-rs and burned it on a dvd-r =/09:20
capigmoore, I'm looking for a proftpd server that is based on virtual users. If I remember correctly proftpd works by masking a local users name with a virtual user.09:20
filip_HappyFool: i will check that09:20
srijithomp342: hmm.. shouldn't it be able to?09:20
titaniululzcapi, (this is gmoore) i thought they all worked like that?09:21
omp342i dont know..09:21
omp342when the instalation starts09:21
Alrightameuserj|work, I will remember that ;o09:21
omp342after a few questions09:21
Alrighta:)09:21
srijithI thought the install should work with DVDs...09:21
omp342when it wants to start copying files09:21
omp342it doesnt work09:21
omp342well, i dont have the dvd version of the iso09:21
omp342i burned the cd version on a dvd09:22
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omp342i know it worked on fedora09:22
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capititaniululz, all of them I've seen do that. I was just wondering if anyone knew one that does things differently.09:22
omp342but its not working here09:22
srijithomp342: oh ok.. never tried  than combo09:22
kevin_Can anyone help me? What decoder do i need to get in oreder to play mp3 files?09:22
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AlrightaBtw, guys, why can't I hear music decently? Although I have sound, my mp3's(as well as Audio CDs) sounds terrible. Any ideas?09:22
titaniululzcapi, ah, ok. :)09:22
Impulse29vitriol, I couldn't find that file I need to modify09:22
oferetsrijith and pfp,  sorry for the delay as I took a break. But the problem is the same one. An error was returned while trying to install teh kernel into the target system09:22
srijith!restricted09:22
oferetany ideas?09:22
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:22
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filip_No sudo fdisk -l does not give me the information i whant, i need to check if i have an IDE or S-ata harddrive.09:22
erbhello09:22
srijithkevin_, check the link above09:22
kevin_what link>09:22
meuserj|workAlrighta, make sure your PCM volume isn't too high.. it should only be about 56-60%09:23
EnsignRedshirt!tell kevin_ about restricted09:23
meuserj|workerr 50-60 is what I meant09:23
srijithoferet: what the heck.. hmm09:23
titaniululzfilip_, look at the cable and if it's a large flat ribbon like the one connected to your cd drive it's ide, if it's a tiny ribbon less than an inch wide it's sata09:23
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srijithoferet: ever installed any linux on that box before?09:23
Alrightameuserj|work, PCM volume?09:23
srijithkevin_, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:23
filip_okey uhm how long is an inch in centimeter?09:23
HappyFoolmeuserj|work: really? i didn't know that09:23
titaniululz2.509:23
oferetno09:23
erbhow can i enable my mouse wheels?09:23
oferetnever09:23
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oferetsrijith, never09:24
capititaniululz, I haven'ts tried proftpd in a while, does it let you alter the permissions of each virtual user?09:24
srijithoferet: this happens during the install process right?09:24
titaniululzfilip_, google image search for ide cable and sata cable to see what they look like09:24
omp342im gonna try installing again09:24
roham_enlightenment dosnt work for me... and why cant gnome have shadows under menues?09:24
oferetstrijith: yes09:24
meuserj|workAlrighta, right click on your little speaker applet on the top right corner and open the volume control09:24
filip_okey i will :=)09:24
titaniululzcapi, yes. you can do it through the config apache-style or you can do it with gproftpd (GTK+ frontend, which i'm using right now) and set each user to different permissions, directories, etc09:25
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meuserj|workAlrighta, or run gnome-volume-control09:25
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bluefoxicy<Evince> *CRASH*09:25
titaniululzcapi, eg i have an upload user who can only go to /mnt/storage/ftp/upload/ and can upload, append, and create dirs, as well as a 'website' user that can only go to /mnt/storage/www/ and has full access (read/write)09:25
oferetsrijith: it says that there is a log I could check. if I'd get it would that help ?09:25
omp342ok its booting from cd now im entering setup09:25
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srijithoferet: I guess so.. can't promise anything09:26
frank_bbcan anyone help me with a problem installing themes in WindowMaker?09:26
Alrightameuserj|work, alright, though, I don't see the % ...09:26
srijithomp342: fingers crossed :)09:26
oferetsrijith: no, you gotta promise !!! :) j/k09:26
bluefoxicyoh new language pack on breezy09:26
meuserj|workAlrighta, I just mean it shouldn't be much more than halfway up.09:26
omp342ya it couldnt read it09:26
bluefoxicymaybe this will make spellcheck work in openoffice again09:26
omp342ill try doing it from my other drive09:26
roham_pfp ya here?09:26
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Alrightameuserj|work, well, it was up the highest09:26
filip_now i whant everybody here listen to me, i have had ubuntu for some days and there had been some problems but now they all is fixed but the point tha damn fast help you get here in the irc. that makes Ubuntu far better then Windows.09:27
chrismyompaul, you have a server of your own?09:27
meuserj|workAlrighta, that may be part of your problem then09:27
pfproham_: still, for a while09:27
roham_pfp: dosnt work that easy they made it on the forum09:27
srijithfilip_, preaching to the converted? :)09:27
roham_!enlightenment09:27
ubotuenlightenment is, like, at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4610509:27
titaniululzfilip_, :)09:27
oferetpfp, have you heard of my progress with the install process ?09:27
omp342ok im trying again, this time with my other drive09:27
roham_pfp. in there ^09:27
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srijithroham_: pfp mia i think .. :)09:28
bluefoxicyI theorize that somebody needs the fuck smacked out of them, probably somebody who wrote a library09:28
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filip_srijith: what you meen i am not that good att english.09:28
bluefoxicybecause evince keeps crashing and I'll bet a library it uses that's "Compatible" with the older version isn't.09:28
oferetsrijith: is there something particular I should look for  ?09:28
bluefoxicy(it won't even start)09:28
meuserj|workman.. upgrading to breezy takes a long time.. especially when you have both ubuntu and kubuntu installed.....09:28
srijithfilip_: we all already agree Linux (Ubuntu) better than windows, at least most of us..09:28
omp342hmm ill have to wait until i can get cd-r's =/09:29
srijithoferet: hmm.. "error' or something like that?09:29
filip_hehe okey09:29
filip_i agree09:29
bluefoxicymeuserj|work:  careful with breezy09:29
bluefoxicyit's shakey.09:29
erbsomebody, im using U510, and my mouse wheel doesnt works09:29
srijithbluefoxicy: like a breeze..09:29
srijith;)09:29
chrismyanyone knows how to code defensively?09:29
filip_btw i get an IDE cabel :)09:29
pfpoferet: uh yeah :)09:29
titaniululzthe only thing ubuntu is really missing is driver support as complete as windows. say what you want but every damn soundcard you can name just works in windows xp; can't say the same for ubuntu (although i know it uses ALSA and they're the ones lagging behind ;)   )09:29
Carpe_LibertatemI need some help setting up user/group permissions in Linux. Can someome please assist?09:29
Alrightameuserj|work, thanks. It was the problem09:29
bluefoxicydoes anyone know what ggv is?09:29
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meuserj|workbluefoxicy, I'm not exactly new at this.... been using Linux exclusively for 7-8 years...09:29
bluefoxicyxpdf doesn't work and evince crashes09:30
srijithggv = postscript viewer09:30
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pfproham_: oh, dear, that 17 version is unsupported afaik, hence the compilcated process09:30
oferetpfp: suggest09:30
bluefoxicyxpdf dies because it's missing a library09:30
omp342ok ill be back in 2 minutes, i'm gonna join the channel with my computer09:30
oferetpfp: suggestions ?09:30
bluefoxicyxpdf: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:30
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pfpoferet: umm09:30
bluefoxicysrijith:  yes, very estute.  And it's not installed in breezy.09:30
bluefoxicysrijith:  and it's not in package 'ggv'09:30
pfpoferet: there are messages / logs on alt-f3, alt-f4 etc... getting those would help09:30
sorush20what is good international clock program for linux09:31
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srijith"yes, very estute." was that an attempt at sarcasm?09:31
pfproham_: did you try installing it simply with synaptic or apt-get ?09:31
meuserj|workbluefoxicy, I take it you are running breezy...09:31
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meuserj|workbluefoxicy, cause I hit the libXp missing problem too on my home machine.09:31
bluefoxicyvery estute, did you fix it?09:32
oferetpfp, I am looking at the messages file.. is there something I should focus on there ?09:32
bluefoxicyoh god ggv renders like ass.09:32
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roham_apt-get09:32
meuserj|workmeuserj|work, unfortunately no.. the package is missing in breezy currently.. and yes, ggv blows09:32
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roham_pfp: apt-get...09:32
Concord_Dawnanyone know of a way to put the switchbar in XChat on the top of the window?09:33
oferetpfp: for example the last line says that Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned and error code (1)09:33
DrPepperhow can I get *-dev packages... Is there a special repository?09:33
pfpoferet: messages from grub i think, or any arrors09:33
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bluefoxicymeuserj|work:  great.  Well I'll assume it looks fine and send it to my prospective employer, some security firm I did a pen test with.  :/09:33
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oferetls09:33
sorush20what is the version after breezy going to be..09:33
Concord_DawnDrPepper, no. They're in the repos same as the normal packages.09:33
pfpoferet: hmm lines before that i think09:33
muffin_help!!! can't update azureus "(<unknown>:8135): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Veraltete Funktion. nderungen an der MIME-Datenbank durch den Benutzer werden nicht mehr untersttzt."09:33
bluefoxicysorush20:  Horny.  :)09:33
bluefoxicysorush20:  Horny Toad  :)09:33
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pfproham_: are you familiar with apt-get09:33
sorush20what is the financial state of Ubuntu at the moment..09:33
vitriolbadger badger badger....snake!!09:33
Concord_DawnHorny Hedgehog HAHAHAHA09:33
sorush20bluefoxicy: really..09:33
bluefoxicysorush20:  no, not really; frogs suck.09:34
DrPepperi should be doing something really stupid since I dont see them09:34
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bluefoxicyI want a Friendly Fox or something09:34
roham_pfp no not sooo much... but I wrote that u told me09:34
bluefoxicyFuzzy!09:34
bluefoxicyFuzzy Foxie!09:34
vitriolhopefully the next version won't be named after a sloth09:35
omp342why do they have all these weird names? :)09:35
oferetpfp: what hsould I look for ? (any clues)09:35
srijithomp342: not to get sued?09:35
srijithomp342: rerember Mozilla phoenix?09:35
vitriolyes lindows was already taken09:35
omp342why do they name it after an animal in the first place ;)09:35
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muffin_help!!! can't update azureus "(<unknown>:8135): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: too old function. Changes by user in the  MIME-Database are not supported."09:36
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pfproham_: in a terminal, you have to add sudo in front of it09:36
sorush20is Ubuntu making prfits..09:36
pfpoferet: uh09:36
Ngsorush20: I don't think they sell anything, so that would be quite hard ;)09:37
srijithoferet: how big is the log?09:37
oferetvery big09:37
meuserj|worksorush20, from what I understand Shuttleworth makes enough money on his own that he doesn't care if canonical makes a profit.09:37
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sorush20Ng: they sell Ubuntu support that is a profit..09:37
omp342it probably loses money09:37
omp342from all the bandwith09:37
omp342to download the iso's09:38
omp342and shipping cd's09:38
omp342etc.09:38
Ngsorush20: they certainly offer it, but has anyone bought yet? ;)09:38
oferetsrijith: I just noticed this error: E:Read error - read (5 Input/output error)09:38
Ngmeuserj|work: yeah, istr he said he wouldn't complain if it made money, but wasn't doing it for the cash09:38
srijithoferet: hmm.. a hard disk problem?09:38
omp342they do sell clothes and accept donations :P09:38
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srijithoferet: u had any other OS installed on this?09:39
Impulse29anyone know how I can use my non-standard resolution?09:39
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oferetE: prior errors apply to /cdrom/pool/main/l/linux-srouce-2.6.10/linux-images2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb09:39
meuserj|worksorush20, at his Debconf talk he explained that he makes more money than all the other linux vendor combined.. so he really doesn't care about profit.09:39
roham_pfp yes09:39
oferetI have the feeling that the cds might be damaged09:39
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oferetis that right ?09:39
roham_pfp its installed09:39
roham_pfp I can see it in synaptic09:39
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pfproham_: good good09:39
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srijithoferet: either CD or the HDD09:40
agraupedoes the ubuntu i386 kernel have support for the HFS filesystem by default?09:40
pfproham_: it should be available in at the login screen09:40
oferetsrijith: I'll reburn the cd then and we'll see how it works.09:40
srijithoferet: burn at a low speed..09:40
muffin_help!!! can't update azureus... Error loading plugin 'azupdater' / 'org.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterUpdateChecke r;org.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterPatcher' : java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: o rg.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterPatcher09:41
roham_pfp I know but it isnt... I cant choose it... its only gnome in sessions09:41
Alrightameuserj|work, do you remember me? :) I'm right now under Knoppix and using qtparted, however, when I try to delete my Windows partition, it says that it is mounted... What should I do...?09:41
srijithmuffin_: not much good will come by repeating..09:41
meuserj|workagraupe, I think so.. there is a hfs.ko module...09:41
muffin_srijith, i had other experiences in this channel. besides... its a new postr09:42
meuserj|workAlrighta, you need to unmount it then09:42
Alrightameuserj|work, how to do so?09:42
pippinhttp://pippin.gimp.org/tmp/apt_get_install_fam.png uhhh09:43
pfproham_: ok, then you can choose to start it by doing this in a terminal: echo enlightenment > ~/.xsession ;  chmod a+x ~/.xsession09:43
meuserj|workAlrighta, the "df" command will tell you what devices are mounted, and do "umount /dev/hda1" and replace hda1 with the device name of your windows partion09:43
pfproham_: to remove it, remove that ~/.xsession file09:43
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Ngpippin: why are you trying to install fam?09:44
JohnWhere is the archive modprobe.conf?09:44
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pippinNg: compiling something,. that needs fam/the fam client library09:44
Alrightameuserj|work, lol, it says command not found09:44
Ngpippin: I'm pretty sure fam is deprecated now, ubuntu uses gamin09:45
meuserj|workfor which command?09:45
celtichi09:45
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meuserj|workAlrighta, for which command?09:45
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I set disc quotas for a group or a user?09:45
pippinNg: and they cannot coexist?09:45
srijithAlrighta: sudo  umount09:45
Alrightameuserj|work, unmount.09:45
celticcan anyone help me_09:45
meuserj|workAlrighta, it's "umount" not "unmount"09:45
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Ngpippin: I'm not sure, you could probably install fam by hand, but doing it with apt will cause a conflict and lots of removals09:45
kezzCarpe_Libertatem, man ulimit (i think)09:45
srijithnot unmount.. "umount"09:45
Carpe_LibertatemWhat's the prob cetic?09:45
ivanc_hi09:46
Ngpippin: might be worth investigating if whatever you are compiling can use gamin instead too :)09:46
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Carpe_Libertatemkezz - what's the syntax for the amount and user, like... "ulimit man bob 10000" ?09:46
Alrightameuserj|work, lol, okay, it worked09:46
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roham_pfp: in usr/share/xsessions?09:46
celticjust installe ubuntu... how can i see files on NTFS filesystem (windows disk)09:46
pippinNg: then it'll be two pieces of bitrotted code to fix until 10.15 CET tomorrow,. some of my own stuff,. and this stuff <g>09:46
ivanc_I'he downloaded the last iso cd for power pc ( 3 times ) and result corrupt09:46
kezzCarpe_Libertatem, sorry i don't know the man page or google will though09:47
srijithceltic, u can only read, not write into nfts..09:47
pfproham_: a file called .xsession in your home directory09:47
Ngpippin: hehe, well grab a fam tarball and see what happens ;)09:47
celticwhere can i find those files09:47
srijithceltic: you need to mount them..09:47
celtichmm...09:47
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srijithceltic: cd /mnt09:48
pippinNg: this is not even supposed to be my development machine,. which is why it runs ubuntu09:48
celticbut can you tell me how_09:48
celticor where09:48
srijithceltic: sudo mkdir nfts09:48
Alrightameuserj|work, okay - I cannot resize my linux partition(ext3) but I can resize my "extended" one. should I resize that? it's the same partition and holds the same space09:48
pippinNg: well,. what the heck ;] 09:48
Alrightameuserj|work, okay, delete that - after deleting my windows parition, I cannot do anything09:48
srijithceltic: mount /dev/hdax /mnt/nfts       where hdax is your ntfs partition09:48
celtichmm09:49
celticwhere should i insert it...09:49
srijithceltic: insert what?09:49
celtichave used slackware... but in ubunto i cant find command line09:49
ivanc_ctrl+alt+f109:50
celticor whatever it is called09:50
srijithright click, open terminal?09:50
ivanc_run -> gnome-terminal09:50
srijithceltic: just shutdown my Ubuntu laptop.. so can't help with specific instructions09:50
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srijithnight all.. off I go09:52
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ivanc_I  can't download any "install" iso  for power pc while are corrupt ... help me please! any idea...09:53
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PhantomFreakIs there a bash command for displaying a error message in a window in gnome?09:54
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AlrightaGuys, I'm running under Knoppix and using qtparted - I have some free space which I wanna add to my Ubuntu linux partition - however, for some reason, I cannot edit my linux partition and add the free unallocated space which came due to my Windows partition delete... What should I do?09:54
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ivanc_Alrighta: how many primary partition do you have?09:56
Alrightaivanc_, none, my primary one was the windows NTFS.09:56
HappyFoolPhantomFreak: maybe gdialog09:57
spolawhen i try to burn a cdrom from within nautilus, it gives an error while creating the ISO, saying (of course it's not very clear because it's !(&! "translated" to "dutch") that there is a "wrongly encoded character stream"... whats up with that? can i temporarely put ubuntu in english mode so i can read the full error message?09:57
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HappyFoolPhantomFreak: or, as 'gdialog --help' indicates, maybe 'zenity' is what you want09:57
ivanc_Alrighta: and with fdisk ?09:57
Alrightaivanc_, oh, when I click "property" on my free unallocated space(which belonged to windows) it says it is the primary partition09:57
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Alrightaivanc_, I don't know how to use fdisk. Damn, I am so stupid. I could've use Partition Magic on Windows. Bah!!!09:58
ivanc_Alrighta: fdisk -l /dev/hda  ( only print the partition table )09:58
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Alrightaivanc_, Cannot open /dev/hda09:59
roham_!themes09:59
ubotuI guess themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com09:59
BwlWhat's will the release after hoary be called?09:59
Alrightaivanc_, oh, I wasn't root09:59
dv__people,09:59
omp342kde = =/09:59
dv__ubuntu uses esd09:59
omp342gnome = =] 09:59
ivanc_Alrighta: ;)09:59
dv__how can I disable that?09:59
Bwldv__: Try system / preferences /audio.10:00
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Bwldv__: Or Sound, not audio.10:00
dv__hmm10:00
dv__yeah, I can disable the start sound server with gnome option10:00
bjvanyone know how to do a serial link in ubuntu?10:01
Bwldv__: esd is the sound server.10:01
dv__ok10:01
dv__because esd has problems with gstreamer10:01
dv__playback stutters10:01
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bjvive got 'modprobe slip' down, but any help using slattach would be nice.10:01
Alrightaivanc_, well, I see my partition table - hda2 is "W95 EXT'd", something like that, its ID is "f". I have hda5 and hda6, but both connected to linux(ext3 and SWAT)..10:01
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BwlAhr. Which branch is more bleeding edge than hoary?10:02
dv__breezy10:02
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sebastian_Any one know some app that can open and edit PS?10:03
Bwlthanks, trying breezy then. :)10:03
ivanc_Alrighta: copy the result of the fdisk ... plz ;)10:03
dv__wait10:03
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dv__breezy is hazardous :)10:03
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Alrightaivanc_, here?10:03
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Bwldv__: well my hoary installation is pretty corrupt anyway.10:03
ivanc_yeah..10:03
dv__hmm10:03
dv__k10:03
dv__:)10:03
Alrightaivanc_, btw, why the hell can't I edit my partitions because they are mounted? Can't gparted \ qtparted just run(as PartitionMagic does) when I don't use the partitions(when I reboot)?10:04
dv__a system issue10:04
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dv__besides, the disk cache might not be flushed yet10:05
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dv__ah, when rebooting. hm10:06
ivanc_Alrighta: no ... they can work on a runnable system but you must to pay a little attention...;)10:06
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Alrightaivanc_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/137010:06
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lirani just checked out gkrellm. its nice, but i was talking about something else10:07
liranthose transparent modules that you see on suse mostly10:07
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Bwldv__: Did you get gstreamer working?10:07
Alrightaliran, ma kore?10:07
dv__yes10:07
dv__you have to turn off esd10:07
dv__and switch in gconf from esdsink to alsasink10:08
liranAlrighta, hakol tov10:08
BwlAre you using breezy?10:08
dv__no10:08
Alrightaliran, tov lishmoa.10:08
liranAlrighta, ken ah... :)10:08
Alrightaliran, betah, im col ha memshala hamizdayenet10:08
Bwldv__: I believe you can switch from esdsink to alsasink by using System / Preferences / Multimedia System Selector too.10:09
liranAlrighta, ken ahi10:09
liranAlrighta, ma laasot10:09
ivanc_Alrighta: you have a primary partition that is extended10:09
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ivanc_Alrighta: and this contain the swap and the linux partition10:09
dv__yes10:09
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Alrightaliran, laarog aravim10:09
liranAlrighta, im trying to find the name of that tool that's basically like gkrellm but the modules are transparent and i believe they're also seperated10:09
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Bwlliran: gdesklet?10:10
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Alrightaivanc_,, so how do I resize?10:10
twibblerhas anybody any exeprience of installing the GD perl module ...10:10
lirani dont remember whats it called. ill check it right now bwl, thanks.10:10
ivanc_Alrighta: how much free space do u have?10:10
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ivanc_df -h   ( is the command )10:10
Alrightaivanc_, according to qtparted 16.67gb.10:10
InkehAlrighta, i've only installed the GB module under PHP, i don't do Perl10:10
MisosHow do I restrict users to their home directories?10:10
BwlMisos: How do your users access the server/computer?10:11
MisosThey're all going to be accessing via SSH.10:11
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twibblerto restrict users have you checked the settings in vipw10:12
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liranthanks bwl, thats the one :)10:12
MisosI want to set a group, and users of this group can only access their /home/user file10:13
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ivanc_Misos: chown -R 77010:13
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liranbwl: man some screenshots are REALLY nice there :)10:13
Concord_DawnAnyone know how to get a JSP container for Apache2?10:13
Misoswoul dit be chown -r group 770?10:13
Misoser10:13
Misoschown -r 770 group10:14
Alrightaivanc_...?10:14
Ngerr10:14
Nghe means chmod10:14
ivanc_Alrighta: mmm curios ... here work fine...10:14
BwlMisos: I'm afraid I don't know. Either you try setting up restrictive modes on all directories or you try some chroot solution. Try googling for ssh and chroot, seems to be some solutions out there.10:14
Alrightaivanc_, what works fine?10:14
ivanc_Alrighta: qtparted10:14
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Bwlliran: Yea, was a while since I tried gdesklet out. Guess they've solved all the memory usage problems there were before.10:15
Alrightaivanc_, perhaps, my linux partition is also mounted?10:15
tenco_vitriol: still problems, this time with ndiswrapper10:15
kevin_anyone I can talk to about why I get this msg when I try and apt-get install streamtuner?10:15
kevin_Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that10:15
kevin_the package is simply not installable and a bug report against10:15
kevin_that package should be filed.10:15
kevin_The following information may help to resolve the situation:10:15
kevin_The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:15
kevin_  streamtuner: Depends: libtagc0 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable10:15
kevin_E: Broken packages10:15
kevin_root@Terminator:~ #10:15
twibblerMisos man vipw then using this will restrict the user ...10:15
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Bwlkevin_: I guess Terminator has failed to stop skynet again ...10:15
Concord_DawnAnyone know how to get a JSP container for Apache2?10:16
ivanc_Alrighta: is dangerous but u can ...10:16
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Ngkevin_: have you done an apt-get update first? a matching version of libtagc0 is in universe10:16
kevin_lol your funny :P10:16
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kevin_yes I have maany times10:16
Ngand you have universe enabled?10:16
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ivanc_Alrighta: can u probe with parted is without gui but u can say the right block ...10:17
Alrightaivanc_, unmounted my linux, didn't help.10:17
kevin_prolly how do I find out?10:17
Alrightaivanc_, what?10:17
ivanc_Alrighta: parted is another program for partitioning10:17
Ngkevin_: in /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic's repositories menu entry10:17
Bwlkevin_: check /etc/apt/sources.list after a universe line.10:17
Ngkevin_: you ought to though, because streamtuner is in universe10:17
tenco_my ndiswrapper disconnects everytime a short time after bootup, but when i do rmmod ndiswrapper and modprobe ndiswrapper and ifup wlan0, the connection lasts forever10:18
kevin_k. hangon10:18
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Alrightaivanc_, does it exist in Knoppix?10:18
twibblertenco do an ndiswrapper -m to make it permanent10:18
tenco_twibbler: i did10:18
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erbhi10:19
twibblerI had the same problem .... but fixed it ...10:19
ivanc_Alrighta: I don't no... :|10:19
tenco_twibbler: ubuntu is booting up, setting up the card, but a short time after that the card loses the connection10:19
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Concord_DawnDoes anyone know how to get a JSP container for Apache2?10:19
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twibblerthe only way was to uninstall ndiswrapper through synaptic and setit up from scratch ..10:19
tenco_twibbler: and wenn i unload and reload ndiswrapper again and do an ifup wlan0 the connection stays forever10:19
Bwltenco_: A long shot, but maybe moving the ndiswrapper last in /etc/modules will help.10:19
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twibblerwhat card ....10:20
tenco_twibbler: dlink dwl-g52010:20
ivanc_Concord_Dawn: tomcat?10:20
kevin_# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe10:20
kevin_# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe10:20
kevin_deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse r$deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse r$deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse r$10:20
Concord_Dawnat least I got an answer.10:20
tenco_twibbler: doesnt work with madwifi10:20
Bwlkevin_: Please don't flood.10:20
twibblerbrb10:20
tenco_Bwl: thanks, will try that10:20
asdrubalexOsama Bin Laden hidden place ROTFLOL  http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=10310:20
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erbanybody pls send an xorg.conf or just paste it (eg. to rafb.net/paste)10:20
Alrightaivanc_, with kpackage I can download parted-bf10:20
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Bwltenco_: It probably won't work, but worth a shot. ;)10:21
Ngkevin_: I think you are missing some repositories, but that paste is hard to read. paste the whole file into pastebin.com or something10:21
kevin_ok fine if you call that flooding I won't10:21
Alrightaivanc_, It is already installed on my system10:21
Ngkevin_: pasting that much text in a busy channel like this makes conversation pretty hard to follow :/10:21
kevin_where can get all the repositories?10:22
tenco_Bwl: its sad, bcause i thought the card would work with madwifi and was reported to work. but seems like dlink changed the chipset :\10:22
vitriolis there an ubuntu amd64 channel?10:22
twibblertenco I think I remembered ..... is it pcmcia or PC ...10:22
tenco_twibbler: pci10:22
mjrvitriol, it was decided that this channel is big enough for amd6410:23
Bwltenco_: Doesn't suprise me. Ordered my D-link DI-624 router because I'd read it had an Atheros chipset (to go with my laptop with the same chip). Turns out some revisions use Ti.10:23
tenco_twibbler: a new one, but not supported by madwifi (HAL reports error 13)10:23
vitriolmjr: ahh ok10:23
Ngkevin_: http://www.pointlessrubbish.net/sources.list10:23
kevin_thank you :)10:23
Bwltenco_: Have you tried compiling madwifi from CVS?10:23
Ngkevin_: although you might want to remove "gb." where it occurs, if you're not in the uk10:23
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ivanc_Alrighta: good luck10:23
tenco_Bwl: no. how old is the ubuntu package?10:23
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twibblerok me thinks it maybe a poweroff issue with the boot settings ..10:24
deadhorseBwl, Atheros?10:24
Alrightaivanc_, how do I load it? I don't find it in the menu :/10:24
tenco_twibbler: *looks interested*10:24
deadhorseBwl, what's that?10:24
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Bwltenco_: Hm, don't know. It doesn't work for me now at least. Tho, I don't know if it's because of madwifi. But if it've never worked, it's really worth trying.10:24
twibblerIf when you boot it is working then stops and you can reinitialise it is powering off ..10:24
phaydedquick question, where are the logs for www?10:24
muffin_hi10:25
Ngshould be /var/log/apache/10:25
ivanc_Alrighta: terminal10:25
tenco_twibbler: how do i power it off?10:25
phaydedthnx10:25
muffin_how do i install cedega_4.4-1.i386.tgz??10:25
Alrightaivanc_, okay, I'm in "parted", in a text mode10:25
Bwldeadhorse: Atheros is a company, was referring to it's wifi chipsets tho.10:25
Alrightaivanc_, can you help me using it?10:25
Ngmuffin_: are you a transgaming subscriber?10:25
twibblerYou have to cnfigure I think in Bios to not poweroff ...10:25
deadhorseBwl, is it good?10:25
Ngmuffin_: they have .deb files for subscribers, you can install that with "sudo dpkg -i cedega-blahblah,deb"10:25
tenco_twibbler: will try.10:25
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twibblerok im around for a while ...10:26
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Ice9!ati10:26
tenco_twibbler: ok10:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:26
Bwldeadhorse: Since I've only used Atheros I can't really tell. But I'd go with something that works with an vanilla kernel.10:26
muffin_Ng, so i first need the .deb file? Is it posible to install it in another way?10:26
deadhorseBwl, so?10:27
Ngmuffin_: sure, extract the tarball (tar -xvzf cedega-blahblah.tgz), go into the directory it creates and there should be an install document10:27
muffin_Ng, thx10:27
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kevin_thank-you all very very much10:28
Bwldeadhorse: Atheros doesn't release their drivers for Linux. You need to use a separate package called Madwifi to get it working (linux-restricted-modules-ARCH contains it tho in ubuntu).10:28
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deadhorsehmm, good10:28
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ivanc_Alrighta: parted from command line with root permission10:29
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Bwldeadhorse: so?10:29
liranuhmmm, im interested to know how to read that gdesklets binary clock10:29
Alrightaivanc_, yes10:29
Alrightaivanc_, I did that.10:29
meuserj|workliran, 1 2 4 8.. add the ones that are lit10:29
Bwlliran: heh, how does it look?10:29
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phaydedanyone here have a LAMP server and use phpWebSite?  anyone?10:29
BeerGeekAfternoon all.  Have a printer problem that I could use some help with if anyone's got the time.10:30
deadhorseBwl, so... it's fine10:30
Bwldeadhorse: bot.10:30
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deadhorseBwl, me?10:30
NgBeerGeek: ask your question, if someone knows the answer they'll pipe up :)10:30
Bwldeadhorse: no, the dead horse.10:30
deadhorseBwl, I doubt it10:30
ivanc_Alrighta: you see all command with help10:30
phaydedanyone use phpWebSite template for their server?  please help10:31
ivanc_Alrighta: and is better if you read man parted before starting ;)10:31
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BeerGeekBrill.  I've just installed Ubuntu & am trying to connect to our household printer on a (gaah!) XP box.  Keep getting NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED errors... :(10:31
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Alrightaivanc_, do you know nparted? I've also tried to use that, but it says I cannot edit my partitions because they are only in read only state :/10:32
BeerGeekAny suggestions?10:32
BwlBeerGeek: Have you setup an account on the XP box or have you set it to allow guests?10:32
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twibblerMay I ask the ? about perl GD package .. failing to load through cpan with an error looking for libgd    does anybody have any ideas ..10:32
liranwait, he quit and i didnt understand him heh10:33
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liranbwl: its a 6x4 matrix10:33
BeerGeekI used one of the active regular user accounts and it still toggles out every 60 seconds, no printing.10:33
BeerGeekGuest has been disabled.10:33
lothosi have just got gkrellm installed on my laptop running ubuntu and would like some help on how to install themes for it can anyone help?10:33
BwlBeerGeek: And are you using DOMAIN\username format with the correct password?10:33
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Alrightaivanc_, If I go back to ubuntu, open gparted, click on "Unmount" and then try to resize, will it help me?10:34
ivanc_Alrighta: runlevel 1        from the first console  ALT+CTRL+F110:34
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BeerGeekErm...  hang on, I'll check...10:34
Bwltwibbler: Try libgd-gd2-perlI think.10:35
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hcooperanyone have an idea why yesterday's breezy update now makes my wlan (rt2500) crash the machine randomly?10:35
AlrightaAt this progress, installing windows again and downloading ParitionMagic will be a lot faster.10:35
twibblerthank you ...10:35
Alrightaivanc_, what does it do? and please refer to my question about ubuntu..10:35
Alrightadamn.10:35
liranhow do i run lmsensors?10:35
BwlAlrighta: Partition Magic is evil.10:35
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AlrightaBwl, I'd better use it than remain in this state of mine.10:36
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BwlAlrighta: You're free to do whatever. All I know is that I've had problems with it.10:36
no_dammagEaah, a small question: I did a clean install of kubuntu ... but it fails to start X11 - startx script tells me that /usr/bin/X11R6/X doesn't exist. What went wrong?10:36
AlrightaBwl, can you help me then?10:37
lothosI use Partition Magic only in extreme cases where I have no alternitive10:37
ksymshello, I've ubuntu hoary installed, my sound works well but I have noted I have no /dev/dsp, some applications use it, how do I install/create it?10:37
lothosknoppix has a nice partioner10:37
no_dammagEksyms: install alsa10:37
Alrightalothos, which is? I'm under Knoppix right now..10:37
ksymsno_dammagE, it is installed, I can play xmms with alsa...10:37
lothosgive me a sec10:38
ksymsno_dammagE, and hoary comes with alsa default, isn't?10:38
lothosanyone know anything about gkrellm10:38
darkheartksyms Where is your sound device listed in /dev?10:38
no_dammagEksyms: you might want to call alsaconf (it there is none, install alsa-tools)10:38
omp342gkrellm is ugly =/10:38
Alrightalothos...?10:39
ksymsalsa is installed, just checked.10:39
lothosAlrighta i am loading knoppix now give me a sec ok10:39
Alrightasorry :/10:39
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lothosomp what do you use then10:40
BeerGeekYep.  No joy, tho -- and entering workgroup\user in the appropriate box in GNOME's printer control applet doesn't seem to keep.  Type it in, close, check properties again and the username/pw boxes are blank... odd, that.10:40
omp342nothing =/10:40
liranomp342, what do you use?10:40
omp342i dont have ubuntu installed yet =/10:40
ksymsno_dammagE, there is no such package, maybe i should install alsa-oss?10:40
omp342i have fedora10:40
darkheartksyms Where is your sound device listed in /dev?10:40
liranahh10:40
ksymsdarkheart, i don't know10:40
omp342i dont have any cd-r's to get ubuntu installed10:40
omp342i downloaded the iso but i cant burn it10:41
omp342=/10:41
lothosseems to be working fine on my 900 MHz lappy10:41
ksymsdarkheart, /dev/snd probably10:41
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lirani just installed gdesklets but some desktop modules arent runing, i think im missing some critical apps10:41
ksymsdarkheart, /dev/snd10:41
darkheartksyms Well, when you find out, you could try making a symlink from /dev/dsp  to /dev/sound or whatever and see if that works.10:41
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BeerGeekcrud, gotta go.  BBRS10:41
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no_dammagEksyms: hmm, in debian there was alsa-tools (or similar) which contained alsaconf. Alsaconf checks your hardware and creates devices based on the inspection.10:41
muffin_whats better for gaming, carega or wine??10:41
darkheartmuffin_ cedega10:42
BwlBeerGeek: Was a while since I tried to use a printer on a windows shared environment. But I had the same problem. All I remember is that it's important to use the correct format of username and password. A tip is to use the smbclient in a shell to play around with it.10:42
darkheartmuffin_ I got q2 running finally.10:42
eri... >> ... is there a channel for people new to linux? >> ... I don't want to ask stupid questions here...10:42
ksymsbut /dev/dsp is oss thing, maybe installing alsa-oss will work10:42
omp342cedega is better, but its not free10:42
no_dammagEksyms: do apt-cache search alsa | grep ^alsa and check what might contain configuration tools. Alsa-oss is an oss wrapper for old hardware ...10:42
no_dammagEksyms: try to install alsa-oss, too10:42
sandinohello all10:42
no_dammagEsandino: hello10:42
bimberino_dammagE: FYI my startx has the line "defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X" in it10:43
lothosAlrighta I used QTparted under knoppix to split up my ntfs drive so I could install linux10:43
muffin_darkheart, technically its running in linux, but i first need the game files... (torrent still loading ^^)10:43
vader1102have a question....I have a Dell Latitude CPi p2 366 and for some reason when I restart my laptop it mutes the sound....is there a fix for this?10:43
no_dammagEbimberi: thanks for the tip, ill check the script now10:43
darkheartmuffin_ So you got it working? Or are you using Cedega?10:43
sandinohey anyone here use wireless on ubuntu.. i kow its a very spread out question.. but i cant seem to do it. i get wireless with slackware and freebsd . but no go here10:43
bimberino_dammagE: np :)10:43
muffin_darkheart, no natvie linux. the app starts and says that graphical files are missing10:44
Alrightalothos, well, QTparted doesn't seem to be working for me. I have some free unallocated space(which came from deleting windows) and I can't resize my Ubuntu linux partition and add the free space10:44
muffin_darkheart, same error as in the windows version without the files ^^10:44
darkheartmuffin_ Really? Graphical? Was it that same error you posted last night?10:44
no_dammagEbimberi: ah, can't do now, i removed xorg-common to apt-get install kde ^^10:44
vader1102sandino, I use the madwifi with the dwl-g650 wireless adapter10:44
lothosIm not sure it worked for me reszied my ntfs side and did no damage10:45
darkheartmuffin_ Cause in that thread I sent you to, there was a tarball that one guy made. It was missing sound files, I put that in my /usr/lib/games/quake2 folder and it worked.10:45
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lothossorry10:45
ksymsno_dammagE, alsa-utils, but there is not such alsaconf10:45
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muffin_darkheart, the debian sound drivers worked for me too. I still need to "killall esd"10:45
Alrightalothos, do you have any 'tips'..?10:45
muffin_darkheart, my current error is: "Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx"10:45
sandinowell apperently i have ndiswrapper here.. but im new to debian style stuff. how do i load the windows inf so ndiswrapper works. ive tried dloading and using the source.. but it gives me errors.10:45
darkheartmuffin_ Ah okay..So you progressed from the previous error. =P10:45
vader1102sandino, I honestly have no idea...sorry10:46
muffin_darkheart, yeah ;)  but where did you get the colormap.pcx from ??10:46
Mystery47_Newbiehelp! -Why i dont see nvidia-gfx-gonfic -file or i cant put it enable?10:46
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ksymsno_dammagE, definitely my alsa is fucked up.10:47
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muffin_darkheart, theres nothing on the idsoft ftp...10:47
no_dammagEksyms: im apt-cache searching for all available packs, stay tuned10:47
darkheartmuffin_ I didn't actually have that error...What I did though (I don't know if it was necessary or not), but I ran a command that was at the end of the thread.10:47
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ksymsno_dammagE, i think i need to re-install re-configure it10:47
darkheartmuffin_ I think it was dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data10:47
Mystery47_Newbiehelp! -Why i dont see nvidia-gfx-gonfic -file or i cant put it enable?10:47
ksymsno_dammagE, root@babaji:/dev/snd # alsaplayer Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults.Failed to initialize plugin!10:48
bimberino_dammagE: that seems unusual (although i don't know the dependencies).  BTW I've actually installed the kubuntu-desktop metapackage which doesn't install the "kde" package itself - but but lots of kde related libs10:48
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muffin_darkheart, hm... i didnt do that. in which folder did you do this?10:48
darkheartmuffin_ Asked me if I wanted to install the data from CD, shareware or something else...Anyway, it will download the data for you I think.10:48
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darkheartmuffin_ I didn't really know what it wanted so I just left it at /root. I ended up with the q2-ctf-blah-blah.exe there..not sure what to do w/ that. But the game works (didn't play it, just tested it).10:49
mark_Howdy10:49
muffin_darkheart, wow10:49
evanzoanyone know of a fix for a problem in gnome with the power meter not updating when cable is plugged/unplugged10:50
muffin_darkheart, loading the missing data, thx ^^10:50
Mystery47_NewbieI want to play enemy territory, but i cant do this: Type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable at a terminal to enable it.10:50
darkheartmuffin_ =) Cool, hope that solves your problem.10:50
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sandinowhere can i get kernel src..>/10:51
no_dammagEksyms: too bad i currently have no browser to check what packs you might need. Currently I have only two things - alsa-oss and alsa-utils...10:51
vader1102any ideas on why my sound auto mutes upon boot?10:51
mark_I need to copy my updated Ubuntu to another h/d.... What's the best way to do this?10:51
no_dammagEbimberi: well, too late, I can't stop the process. It seems that the installer didn't install everything10:51
darkheartvader1102 Using gnome?10:51
vader1102yes10:51
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ksymsno_dammagE, but as you said, alsa-oss is just a wrapper, I don't think it will help.10:52
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impusle29why can't I see an ntfs hard drive in ubuntu live?10:52
no_dammagEksyms: unfortunately I don't have an idea. Hey, ppl, help ksyms10:52
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ksymsno_dammagE, thanks.10:52
darkheartvader1102 You can try setting the sound level where you want, then logging out of gnome and saving your session. Might boot up w/ the sound at that setting.10:52
impusle29why can't I see an ntfs hard drive in ubuntu live?10:52
hmlchave ppl had probs with the last upgrade of breezy killing there WiFi?10:52
ksymsI have no /dev/dsp and I think my alsa isn't working...10:52
vader1102darkheart, tried and same result it auto mutes10:52
ksymsdspless10:53
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no_dammagEksyms: the problem is that I don't remember if oss lives in the userland or in the kernelland. If it is kernelland, than I'm wondering why you have no OSS compiled in ...10:53
darkheartvader1102 Hmm..I dunno...maybe try alsamixer?10:53
andrew__hey all, what package provides qmake?10:53
vader1102ok10:53
tenco_Bwl, twibbler: very strange. i am doing now a upgrade over the wlan-link without issues. but ndiswrapper seems to need a certain amount of time to initialize.10:53
ksymsno_dammagE, it's a kernel module for sure10:53
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Seveasqmake?10:53
ksymsno_dammagE, but I haven't touched kernel and everything was working well.10:53
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darkheartimpusle29 Well, I believe that live CD loads everything from CD including the filesystem you use...So there is no reference to a hdd.10:53
vader1102that is what is what it is set to10:54
no_dammagEksyms: than you might want to check make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux (install kernel-sources)10:54
ksymsno_dammagE, I mean, everyone in hoary has a /dev/dsp?10:54
tcheHello! I have a problem, I can't set us the international us keyboard10:54
Seveasksyms, everyone with a soundcard should have one10:54
no_dammagEksyms: funny thing, I have /dev/dsp in that half-broken installation, but cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp doesn't bring up any sound ...10:54
tcheAnd my touch pad doesn't work correctly...10:54
ksymsno_dammagE, I've already compiled it since I got this machine (4 weeks) ago10:54
ksymsSeveas, my sound card is working and I don't have one10:55
Seveashmm10:55
Seveasodd10:55
seliniumhi all, any bluetooth users out there?10:55
bimberiandrew__: qt3-dev-tools10:55
no_dammagEksyms: modern applications use alsa while older (Quake3) use OSS ...10:55
darkheartvader1102 Do you load the server on startup?10:55
twibblerselinum yes ..10:56
vader1102I think so, how do I check?10:56
ksymsno_dammagE, that's what I figured out, applications that need oss (/dev/dsp) is not working...10:56
sandinocan someone tell me how to add root instead of using sudo. please10:56
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no_dammagEsandino: use sudo passwd10:56
Seveassandino, sudo passwd root10:56
darkheartvader1102 In System->Preferences->Sound10:56
vader1102k10:57
darkheartvader1102 Dunno if that will resolve the issue though.10:57
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Ice9how is a hardware master in here?10:57
Ice9I mean10:57
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Ice9is there a hardware master in here?10:57
vader1102it is set to load on boot10:57
twibblerbwl thank you for your help .. fixed it all ....10:57
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no_dammagEksyms: i mean to remember that e.g. OSS apps as Q3 require now echo direct and disable, IIRC. But that still doesn't bring you around the problem of missing /dev/Dsp ...10:58
seliniumtwibbler: I am having trouble getting it all working. I have used the bluetooth manager and it has detected my phone/headset and everything. But i cant get the to connect.10:58
twibblerlibgd-perl ......10:58
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seliniumtwibbler: any ideas?10:58
sandinono_dammagE Seveas ok what am i doing wrng .. i get 'sorry'10:58
no_dammagEsandino: sudo passwd10:58
Seveassandino, do sudo -i10:58
no_dammagEsandino: enter Password: your password10:58
Seveasand then passwd10:58
twibblerI have exactly the sme problem ...... setting up bluetooth is easy ... and I can just talk to he phone ...10:58
no_dammagEsandino: enter new UNIX password10:59
ksymsno_dammagE, root@babaji:~ # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp10:59
ksymscat: write error: No space left on device10:59
sandinono_dammagE i did and it says sorry10:59
Seveasksyms, you just filled your disk :)10:59
twibblerThink it is the actual driver ... what phone ..10:59
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ksymsSeveas, I have never created a /dev partition10:59
no_dammagESeveas: ;) lol? it shouldn't do that so fast10:59
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darkheartvader1102 Sorry, not sure then =\ I will keep looking, but kinda busy now as well.11:00
Seveas /dev is mounted in memory11:00
no_dammagEapt-get is fucking up my irssi, damn, can't read a thing11:00
vader1102k ty11:00
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sandinono_dammagE my fault man.. im an idiot11:00
Seveasyou clogged your memory :11:00
Seveas:)11:00
Ice9whats that good computer help channel?11:00
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gsuvegre11:00
ksymsno_dammagE, here it go: root@babaji:~ # modprobe snd_pcm_oss11:00
ksymsroot@babaji:~ # ls -al /dev/dsp11:00
ksymscrw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 Aug 18 18:00 /dev/dsp11:00
no_dammagEsandino: no problem, shit happens11:00
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gsuveganybody can help me to compile latest icewm to ubuntu ?11:00
Seveasgsuveg, icewm is in the repositories...11:00
gsuvegyes. but not the fresh11:01
ksymsno_dammagE, now, why the fuck this module isn't working. hell11:01
ksymsno_dammagE, but yay, it's working :D11:01
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gsuvegSeveas: or ?11:01
andrew__g++  -o settings     -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm11:01
andrew__/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt11:01
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andrew__any ideas with this one guys?11:01
no_dammagEksyms: HUH?11:01
Seveasandrew__, install the qt libs11:01
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no_dammagEksyms: do you mean that now it is working? if yes, then the only thing was a missing kmodule ...11:02
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ksymsno_dammagE, I loaded snd_pcm_oss and it's working.11:02
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no_dammagEksyms: gratz, I was also fighting with similar shit today (LILO install via chroot). Well, after 3 hours it worked. I just had to think about that damn dev mode :/11:03
no_dammagEa small question: what was the name of that kde meta-package?11:04
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bimberino_dammagE: kubuntu-desktop ?11:04
ksymsno_dammagE, werd, thanks11:04
zerboxxWhen installing something with synaptic, it automatically does ./configure, right? (this is a question with a followup question)11:04
darkheartvader1102 I bet Seveas knows =)11:04
no_dammagEksyms: you did the job, not me, no need to thank ^^11:04
no_dammagEbimberi: thanks11:04
vader1102I will ask him when he isn't so busy11:04
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vader1102;-)11:05
no_dammagEzerboxx: with debian packages no ./configure is required because you install everything in binary mode and dpkg manages all dependencies for you11:05
Seveasvader1102, I'm alwasys busy :)11:05
Seveasso ask away11:05
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c0rrupt_o.011:05
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andrew__make[1] : *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.11:06
andrew__Seveas, how bout that one?  Why do people need to be difficult and use qt!!11:06
Seveasandrew__, what are you compiling?11:06
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vader1102lol, why is it I use gnome desktop and my sound is auto muted upon boot, help....please;-011:06
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skalpelcan someone tell me how to set the defaulct chmod for my directories?11:06
andrew__Seveas, its mythtv stuff11:06
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Seveasapt-get build-dep mythtv11:06
no_dammagEandrew__: you need the dev packs for qt3 (or tools pack?) which contains qmake11:06
Seveasskalpel, set a umask11:06
hussamandrew__: try to export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 and recompile11:07
skalpelseveas: do i have to set a umask for every dir seperately or can i do it recursively?11:07
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hussamandrew__: what are you trying to compile?11:07
Seveasskalpel, oh you want to change permissions for existing folders?11:07
WhyvasMctso... is ubuntu better than fedora core 4?11:07
SeveasWhyvasMct, lots better...11:07
andrew__hussam, its stuff for my mythtv box11:07
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Seveas(but you can expect people in here to say that of course :))11:08
ubuntu_why can't I see fat32 or ntfs drives in ubuntu live??11:08
hussamandrew__: not ubuntu?11:08
skalpelseveas: yes, i want all dirs in the /home folder to be rwx by default, so that when a download comes in i can move it wherever i want without changing its permissions11:08
Seveasubuntu_, you need to mount them11:08
ubuntu_how do I do that?11:08
no_dammagEubuntu_: you need to mount them11:08
lvraabwow, there's almost twice as many users in here than in #fedora11:08
andrew__hussam, mythtv is running on ubuntu - mythtv is a program11:08
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andrew__hussam, www.abarbaccia.com11:08
ubuntu_wow, there's an echo11:08
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Seveasskalpel, chmod -R changes recursively11:08
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firebird619Can anyone help me with a modem issue. I downloaded the drivers for PCTel modems that support my kernel (2.6.10-5-386) and installed them. According to lsmod, all of the modules for the modem the the README file says should be there are there, however, I cannot connect to the Internet with my modem. Could someone please help me?11:08
Seveasubuntu_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically11:08
teressayo Seveas...11:09
Seveasteressa, hi!11:09
teressaI got adobe workin, you were right11:09
ubuntu_thanks babe11:09
hussamandrew__: then try  export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 and recompile11:09
Seveasteressa, nice!11:09
skalpelseveas: for some reason when i use chmod the permissions do not stick. if a user logs in and uploads files i have to change permissions on the new folder/files again, do you know why?11:09
Seveasskalpel, yes11:09
teressaIt downloaded the good one over the new one with a differnent name11:09
teressaThanks! :)11:09
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vader1102bbl11:09
andrew__hussam, no dice11:09
Seveasskalpel, that's what the umask is for: the command 'umask 022' makes sure all files/folders you create will be rwxrwxrx11:10
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no_dammagEfirebird619: whats the error message when you fail to connect?11:10
sandinoapperently i have ndiswrapper here.. how do ill .? locate it and insta11:10
skalpelseveas: ok, and does it work for all users?11:10
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Seveasskalpel, per user11:10
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Seveasput it in ~/.gnomerc and ~/.bashrc11:10
skalpelseveas: so if i want it tow ork for all users i will have to login and set them seperately?11:11
Seveassandino, ndiswrapper kernel modules are installed by default, the utilities are in the ndiswrapper-utils package11:11
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Seveasskalpel, you might have luck by putting it in /etc/bash_profile11:11
firebird619no_dammagE: I connect using System ==> Administration ==> Networking. When I tried wvdial it says No such file or directory11:11
Seveasbut that will not work if users don't use bash11:11
darkheartSeveas I thought 'umask 022' would make files rwxr-xr-x?11:11
hussamandrew__: do you have libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools installed?11:11
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Seveasdarkheart, I stand corrected11:11
skalpelit should be umask 000 right?11:12
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Seveasskalpel, idea: put it in the xsession stuff :)11:12
skalpelseveas: what should the bash_profile look like?11:12
WhyvasMctshould i get the 5.4 or 5.10 ?11:12
Seveas000 makes everything rwxrwxrwx11:12
skalpelseveas: what xsession stuff?11:12
SeveasWhyvasMct, 5.0411:12
teressabe bold!11:12
darkheartSeveas Wasn't trying to be right, just making sure =)11:12
andrew__hussam, yes to both11:12
no_dammagEfirebird619: the utility is missing, the drivers are there and active if lsmod reports them. Seveas, check the problem (I currently can't check on this machine - missing half of the system :)  )11:12
twibblerDoes anybody now of a good text editor which will handle access over ftp or ssh11:12
sandinoSeveas sorry new to ubuntu .. where do i locate it ..? and where can i get kernel sources11:13
Seveasskalpel, /etc/gdm/Xsession.d/PostLogin (something like that)11:13
Seveasthat is sourced for all users11:13
mirakhi11:13
no_dammagEtwibbler: IIRC emacs, but i never used it ;) I use vim (NO NO VIvsEMACS pls)11:13
mirakis there some package of gnome 2.12 ?11:13
Seveas!ndis11:13
ubotuwell, ndis is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper or http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu11:13
Seveas^-- sandino11:14
robotgeek_no_dammagE: well...only vi then!11:14
Seveas!start an editor war11:14
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ubotunano is better than xemacs11:14
Seveas*runs*11:14
no_dammagEjoe 4ever11:14
no_dammagE:)11:14
skalpelseveas: so i should just add the umask 000 command to my postlogin file? and it will work for all users?11:14
lvraaband so it begins...11:14
meuserj|worklol11:14
andrew__hussam, any ideas?11:14
meuserj|workvim is the best naturally11:15
Seveasskalpel, I *think* so, I'm 90% sure...11:15
hussamandrew__: yes, one sec11:15
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no_dammagEdamn, it takes years to install kde on a C400, im away for a smoke (don't kick me pls)11:15
skalpelseveas: well i will try it and let you know how it goes then ;)11:15
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stizonerflash for firefox? libflash crashes firefox for me11:15
Seveasskalpel, i appreciate that11:15
Seveasstizoner, flashplayer-mozilla (from multiverse)11:15
snorkswhat flags should /boot and / have? nosuid noauto and that stuff. i am trying to install ubuntu but i dont want to wipe my windows install11:15
twibblerno_damage: but Vi is an excellent editor ... but not for multiple file handling ... it is by far the most powerful and usefull editor ...11:15
Seveastwibbler, do you know :sp11:16
Seveasvim is ideal for multiple files :)11:16
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stizoneryeah i see that in the documentation, there is no such thing11:16
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RememberPOLHi there11:16
Seveashi RememberPOL11:16
no_dammagEthe best texteditor is cat text > file ^^11:16
RememberPOLDoes Ubuntu support automatic online package updating?11:16
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RememberPOL(via apt-get or yum or anything)11:17
stizoneri enabled all the repositorys to11:17
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Seveasno_dammagE, that's not editing11:17
Seveascat > file11:17
Seveasthat is :)11:17
cold_fire[] Synaotic11:17
snorkswhat flags should /boot and / have? nosuid noauto and that stuff. i am trying to install ubuntu but i dont want to wipe my windows install. If you can help, please please do :(11:17
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SeveasRememberPOL, apt-get/synaptic/aptitude11:17
iiiearsecho is nice11:17
Seveassnorks, the installer will figure that out11:17
twibblerfiles files everywhere what we are really after is ultraedit for linux ...11:17
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freedomjazzdancegotta question, how do you list all available wireless networks in range, using warty?11:18
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snorksSeveas, not if i use advanced partitioning. if i use default it will wipe the whole drive11:18
Mystery47_Newbiehi all!11:18
Seveasfreedomjazzdance, iwlist scan11:18
snorksSeveas, and i dont want that11:18
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cold_firei need a little help with pppoe-server + RADIUS? someone?11:18
stizonerdamn theres more questions then there is answers :D11:18
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Seveassnorks, true, but it does not need special flags in the partitioner11:18
Mystery47_Newbiei have a little problem to get my nvidia work....11:18
Seveas!nvidia11:18
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2911:18
stizonershould have like a number system, grab a number, wait in  line11:19
Mystery47_Newbieim doing like beginners guide says, but i get this:11:19
wrykynIt doesn't look like ubuntu has the Eclipse packages. Is there any other way to install it ?11:19
snorksSeveas, so i should just make boot ext2 and / ext3 and hit enter?11:19
skalpelwhat files do i need to edit in order to change a users name?11:19
zerboxxstizoner: heh "now helping number 34019"11:19
stizonerlol11:19
Mystery47_Newbiesudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found11:19
Seveaswrykyn, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java (that has a link to eclipse instructions)11:19
Seveassnorks, sounds like a good plan11:19
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wrykynthanks, Seveas11:20
freedomjazzdanceSeveas, ok thanks, but it seems to still not be connecting...11:20
cold_fireRADIUS + pppoe-server?11:20
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Seveasfreedomjazzdance, iwlist scan does not connect to anything :)11:20
freedomjazzdanceIm trying to connect to a router but its not letting me access the internet11:20
Mystery47_Newbiecan somebody help me?11:20
Mystery47_Newbiei have a little problem to get my nvidia work....11:20
freedomjazzdanceSeveas, i know iwconfig right?11:20
hussamandrew__: try this. sudo mkdir /usr/lib/qt-3.3/ && sudo mkdir usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs && sudo ln -s /usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/linux-g++/ /usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/defaultdefault11:20
Mystery47_Newbieim doing like beginners guide says, but i get this:11:21
twibblerSeveas have you set the wep ..11:21
Mystery47_Newbiesudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found11:21
hussamandrew__: sorry try this. sudo mkdir /usr/lib/qt-3.3/ && sudo mkdir usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs && sudo ln -s /usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/linux-g++/ /usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default11:21
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tristanmikeHow do people create a database of all their cd's and dvd's in Linux??11:21
tristanmikecan it be done?11:21
SeveasMystery47_Newbie, then install the nvidia packages11:21
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Seveastristanmike, ghe, I do that on my webserver wit a php app :)11:22
AdmiralCrunchText file :P11:22
SeveasMystery47_Newbie, install the nvidia-glx package11:22
Mystery47_Newbiei just installed all nvidia named packages...but i cant still put enable...11:22
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tristanmikeSeveas: crap, nice tho, is there a program like Advanced Disk Catalog or WhereIsIt?11:22
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sandinoany wireless people here11:22
hussamandrew__: did you try that?11:23
Seveastristanmike, no idea...11:23
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stizonerim old fashined i prefer a cord11:23
muffin_darkheart, yay q2's running!!!11:23
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=== Seveas is on wifi 24/7 :)
freedomjazzdancecan i config a wireless connection with pppoeconf??11:23
twibblersandion yep ... whats up ...11:23
AdmiralCrunchtristanmike, you can just write a PHP script, put it on apache11:23
muffin_darkheart, but only in software x11 :(11:23
Portugueshow can i access windows files by here ?11:23
AdmiralCrunchmount your windows drive11:23
SeveasPortugues: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically11:23
Mystery47_Newbienvidia-glx package is installed....11:23
sandinotwibbler i have a kernel error using ndiswrapper11:23
tristanmikeSeveas: AdmiralCrunch: I'll keep that in mind although I have no idea how to create scripts.....I'm a Linux Virgin11:23
RememberPOLAre there any ex-slackware users in here?11:24
Portuguesmnt/windows ?11:24
andrew__hussam, amazing - works11:24
Portuguesthanks Seveas11:24
twibblersandino uninstall ndiswraper and reinstall ...11:24
tristanmikeYou'd think they'd have something like that, I mean, people have large backup collections Id assume11:24
darkheartmuffin_ Hehe congrats. Do you have the proper drivers installed for your video card?11:24
Seveastristanmike, cdcat - media catalog program11:24
tristanmikeYEAHHHHHH!!!!11:24
Seveasthat might be something11:24
Mystery47_Newbiei cant find nvidia-glx with whereis.....11:24
AdmiralCrunchtristanmike, ah, gotcha, well you can just do one of those web database things for DVDs and CDs, I have never really used an app like that, so I couldn't tell you much about it on the Linux side11:24
freedomjazzdanceSeveas, how did you configure the wireless card, seems to be connected but no ping of remote or local ips11:25
hussamandrew__: good11:25
sandinotwibbler http://pastebin.com/34020511:25
muffin_darkheart, no not yet, but nice idea11:25
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Seveasfreedomjazzdance, my wifi setup is quite nonstandard, but there is a wifihowto on the wiki11:25
freedomjazzdanceSeveas, i cant even access the router ip11:25
Seveas!wifi11:25
ubotuwifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:25
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Portuguesjust last question, is it possible play counter-strike in ubuntu ?11:25
AdmiralCrunchyes11:25
AdmiralCrunchit is possible11:25
SeveasPortugues, yes it is11:25
muffin_yes11:25
tristanmikeSeveas: I'll look into it, I am indebted to you kind sir11:25
darkheartmuffin_ What kind of vid card do you have?11:25
muffin_darkheart, geforce 211:26
Portuguesnice!11:26
AdmiralCrunchLinuxQuestions.org has a good Linux gaming board11:26
freedomjazzdanceDoh! thanks guys11:26
AdmiralCrunchyou can figure it out there11:26
twibblersandino: use the synaptic to unistal and reinstall ...11:26
sandinok11:26
Portuguestks AdmiralCrunch, i will check out now11:26
sandinoi feel like i need kernel sources11:26
twibblernope.....11:27
AdmiralCrunchNo problem Portugues11:27
darkheartmuffin_ Okay, not too bad. Shouldn't be too hard with the guide (!nvidia)11:27
twibblersandino workstation or server ..11:27
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tristanmikeSeveas: if you don't mind, would you suggest that I install the .99-1 version from synaptic or get the 1.0 from the website?11:28
stizoner!ati11:28
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:28
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HLPyooo11:28
HLPI need some SATA help11:28
sandinoworkstation ..laptop11:28
Seveastristanmike, synaptic11:28
muffin_!nivida11:28
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, muffin_11:28
AdmiralCrunchYeah HLP what do you need11:28
muffin_!nvida11:28
ubotumuffin_: What?11:28
muffin_!nvidia11:28
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2911:28
HLPAdmiralCrunch, unbuntu doesnt seem to pick up my harddrive11:28
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andrew__hussam, i'm getting a lot of error now, but i dont know if its the setup or the code i'm trying to compile - it's a stable branch so it should work...11:29
tristanmikeSeveas: I woulda thought. How would I check to see if this will be included in breezy?11:29
HLPAdmiralCrunch, it is SATA11:29
Seveasmuffin_, the bot gets rude if you don't feed him :)11:29
twibblersandino: ok system -> admin -> synaptic .....11:29
ubiquiti1gdm dies in a few seconds after opening up11:29
Seveas!botsnack11:29
ubotuthanks seveas :)11:29
sandinotwibbler all im installing is the ndiswrapper-utilities11:29
chezi'm having trouble building a bluetooth application from source, can someone give me a hand? can't find bluetooth.h, hci.h is the error msg11:29
tristanmikeSeveas: sorry for the 20 questions11:29
sandinotwibbler there now.. removed it11:29
AdmiralCrunchDoes the drive show up at all when you look at /dev HLP?11:29
ubiquiti1why's this? also how would i force vga=771 or nofb with grub?11:29
AdmiralCrunchLike sda1 sdb2?11:30
HLPAdmiralCrunch, i dont belivbe so i have tried /dev/hdc   hda sda11:30
HLPall them11:30
twibblersandino ok reinstall11:30
Seveastristanmike, http://packages.ubuntu.com11:30
tristanmikeSeveas: you are a credit to this community sir11:30
AdmiralCrunchHLP open up your terminal11:30
twibblersandino    is it PCMCIA or inbuilt ...11:30
HLPAdmiralCrunch, k opened11:30
AdmiralCrunchand type mount11:30
HLPk11:30
AdmiralCrunchdo any other hard drives show up11:30
Seveastristanmike, it's 1.0-2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=cdcat&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all11:30
ubiquiti1X works through startx fine (with the user root, in the single-user mode)11:31
HLPAdmiralCrunch, checking now11:31
sandinotwibbler built in11:31
twibblerok ndiswraper -l from prompt ...11:31
sandinook reinsalled11:31
Seveasubiquiti1, re: the grub question: add the kernel parameters to the '# kopt' line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub11:31
no_dammagEwill ubuntu setup my printer automatically/is there a wizard or do I have to configure it manually?11:32
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sandinotwibbler sandino@earache:~$ ndiswrapper -l installed ndis drivers: bcmw15  invalid driver!11:32
tristanmikethanx all :)11:32
Seveasno_dammagE, system -> administration -> printing has a 'new printer' wizard11:32
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tristanmikesee ya later, take care11:32
twibblersandino ..... ndisdriver -e bcmwl511:32
no_dammagESeveas: thanks, ill just have to wait until full kubuntu-desktop has been downloaded (half gig ;) )11:33
sandinodid that.. says no drivers installed11:33
twibblerexcellent ...11:33
twibblerso what is your wifi card i.e linksys11:33
sandinobroadcom11:33
ubiquiti1what's this header problem with apt-get11:33
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ubiquiti1i can't install packages, it starts to "wait for the headers" indefinitely and another time yesterday it failed to download a package i could install easily manually after wgetting it11:34
iiiearsSeveas - Three questions at a time for awhile there. - nice :)   (Faxes a Pepsi)11:34
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twibblersandino ... do you have the .inf driver file ...11:36
Seveasubiquiti1, hmm, maybe a failing mirror11:36
Seveasiiiears, eeek11:36
SeveasI hate that :)11:36
iiiearslol - Pepsi?11:36
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sandinotwibbler yes11:36
ubiquiti1Seveas: thaks11:37
ubiquiti1thanks, even11:37
twibblerok however the linux driver is here http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/downloaddrivers.php11:37
darkheartlol...throw baby in lake?11:37
sandinotwibbler wrks fine in slackware and freebsd11:37
no_dammagEdarkheart: well, shit happens ^^11:37
sandinothats why the error i think is kernel sources11:38
twibblerand the zip file has an rpm ....11:38
twibblerso download unzip and alien the rpm so you dpkg the .deb11:38
ubiquiti1Seveas: hmm... i get the same both with us.archive.ubuntu.com and gb.archive.ubuntu.com at least11:39
darkheartno_dammagE Hehe, well, it was pretty random/funny.11:39
Seveasubiquiti1, odd11:39
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Seveastry archive.ubuntu.com11:39
twibblerthus should avoid the kernel and having to use ndiswrapper ..11:39
darkheartubiquiti1 You need a /ubuntu/ at the end of those domain names also.11:40
Sponge_How do I improve video speed on cedega? I tried to play starcraft, but the video is quite slow (but not choppy). I downloaded and installed the latest nvidia drivers, but I don't know what else can I do.11:40
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hussamandrew__: what error?11:40
c0rrupt_i used cedega to play unreal tournament11:41
c0rrupt_xD11:41
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sandinotwibbler thards.. not wireless ..?ats for ethernet c11:41
c0rrupt_works fine11:41
sandinooops11:41
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thiago_irc.brasnet.org11:41
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sandinotwibbler that seems for ethernet.. not wireless .. ?11:41
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penticlexhow di I fix grub11:41
twibblerok ..... there are three drivers which one is for your card ?...11:42
twibblerif not we go back to ndiswrapper ...11:42
penticlexmy primary HDD crashed witch had grub in the MBR11:42
penticlexI loaded the live cd thats how I am on know11:43
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penticlexI cant apt get from hear and the I cant get to a shell on the install cd11:44
sandinotwibbler neither of those are mine.. i have the inf files from the xp disk11:44
no_dammagEpenticlex: chroot into your system (mount /dev/rootdevice /mnt/rootmount , mount -t proc none /mnt/rootmount/proc , chroot /mnt/rootmount /bin/bash , source /etc/profile . then call grub-install)11:44
Sponge_I need help with cedega.... any volunteer?11:44
twibblerok put somewher usefull and open command prompt as root .11:44
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sandinok11:45
skalpelcan someone tell me what files to edit to change a users name?11:45
snorksok, my harddrive, sda (sata disk)), contains 1 partition with ntfs on it for win xp. if i chose to install ubuntu, would simply defining sda2 (130 GB) as installpartition be sufficient? will ubuntu fix own partitions for boot and swap?11:45
no_dammagEpenticlex: it requires that the root filesystem is of course alive/exists (the grub configuration file in /boot/grub IIRC)11:45
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hussamandrew__: what errors do you get?11:46
penticlexit is xp was on my primary drive11:46
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penticlexthanks11:46
no_dammagEpenticlex: did it work?11:46
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no_dammagEpenticlex: i hope yes, but even if grub-install succeded, you can be only 100% sure after a reboot ^^11:47
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firebird619Can anyone help me with a modem issue. I downloaded the drivers for PCTel modems that support my kernel (2.6.10-5-386) and installed them. According to lsmod, all of the modules for the modem that the README file says should be there are there, however, I cannot connect to the Internet with my modem. Could someone please help me?11:48
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snorks!howto scanner11:49
ubotusnorks: Not a clue11:49
binaanyone know of a good file comparison prog?11:49
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no_dammagEpenticlex: is there no xp anymore? or did everything stay as was (devices I mean) if devices changed the numbers, you should modify /boot/grub/grub.com ...11:50
snorksok, my harddrive, sda (sata disk)), contains 1 partition with ntfs on it for win xp. if i chose to install ubuntu, would simply defining sda2 (130 GB) as installpartition be sufficient? will ubuntu fix own partitions for boot and swap?11:50
DJMiragebina: diff11:50
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cafuegosnorks: yes11:51
c0rrupt_what does this error mean11:51
no_dammagEsnorks: you will 100% need at least 2 partitions: / and swap. What's the problem to create them? (if you choose to delete the who harddisk it should create a reasonable partition table)11:51
c0rrupt_or how can it be fixed11:51
c0rrupt_/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config11:51
c0rrupt_no such file or directory11:51
binaDjMirage: nice, thanks11:51
cafuegosnorks: Actually, no. make sure sda2 desn't exist and make ubuntu automatically use the available free space11:51
DJMiragenp ;)11:51
c0rrupt_?11:52
c0rrupt_trying to compile rtl8180 drivers11:52
rebel_any cedega chamsp around?11:52
c0rrupt_i use cedega11:53
rebel_play eq?11:53
c0rrupt_no11:53
c0rrupt_;\11:53
skalpelcan someone tell me how to fix the follorwing error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~11:53
skalpelbonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:53
c0rrupt_plx help compiling driver11:53
c0rrupt_Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config: No such file or directory11:53
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skalpelcan someone tell me how to fix the following error? /home/skalpel/pics/21697_turtles.jpg11:53
rebel_damn, well i used the *deb to install and everything worked, ran worse than winxp11:53
rebel_so i decided to use the cvs and i can't get eq to run11:53
guido_cafuego, snorks: I think the only "automatic" option the installer has is to use the whole drive, not free space11:53
skalpelcan someone tell me how to fix this error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~11:53
skalpelbonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:53
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skalpelca someone tell me how to fix this error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~11:54
skalpelbonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:54
skalpel hear and the I cant get to a shell on the install cd11:54
skalpel16:44 < sandino> twibbler neither of those are mine.. i have the inf files from the xp disk11:54
inva|idskalpel: take it easy, someone will answer if they know11:54
skalpel16:44 < no_dammagE> penticlex: chroot into your system (mount /dev/rootdevice /mnt/rootmount , mount -t proc none /mnt/rootmount/proc , chroot /mnt/rootmount /bin/bash11:54
c0rrupt_why would you do that anyway skalpel11:54
skalpel                    , source /etc/profile . then call grub-install)11:54
skalpelbonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:54
c0rrupt_stop spamming you twat11:54
skalpelbonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:54
skalpelbonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:54
skalpelbonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:54
no_dammagEvotekick11:55
skalpelbonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:55
no_dammagE:)11:55
skalpelbonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:55
c0rrupt_votekick skalpel11:55
inva|idvotekick skalpel11:55
snorksguido_, if i tell ubuntu to use all available space on my harddrive, thats all available except winxp, it will setup stuff automagically?11:55
c0rrupt_hows it work?11:55
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no_dammagElol, it doesn't work :)11:55
c0rrupt_Lol11:55
skalpelcan someone tell me how to fix this error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~/11:55
c0rrupt_damn11:55
skalpelbonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported11:55
c0rrupt_skalpel shut the fuck up11:55
no_dammagEit is from old HL times11:55
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c0rrupt_too bad11:55
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c0rrupt_;\11:55
skalpelc0rrupt_: very sorry, my screen was not scrolling11:55
c0rrupt_.........11:55
no_dammagE./ignore skalpel11:55
darkheartlol11:55
Mystery47_Newbiehi! How i can uninstall enemy territory?11:56
skalpelmy apologies.11:56
guido_snorks, if I remember correctly "all" means all and not "only free space"11:56
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Seveasjeez11:56
Seveaswhat an idiot11:56
darkheartskalpel It means they don't have permission to use sudo...try the command 'visudo'11:56
no_dammagEMystery47_Newbie: IIRC there is an uninstallation script in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory11:56
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Mystery47_Newbiethanks11:56
no_dammagEMystery47_Newbie: cd there and ls, see if there is something to uninstall ;) np11:56
Mystery47_Newbiecd /usr/local/games/enemy-territory11:56
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guido_snorks, I mean i think it will wipe xp if you do that11:57
darkheartConsole question: If ctrl+a takes you to the beginning of the line, what takes you to the end?11:57
no_dammagEMystery47_Newbie: else: rm -rf /usr/local/games/enemy-territory, rm -rf /home/user/.etwolf (or .wolfet, i don't remember it correctly),  whereis et, rm -rf /path/to/et11:57
no_dammagEMystery47_Newbie: IIRC by default /path/to/et is /usr/bin/et ...11:58
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no_dammagEMystery47_Newbie: but im pretty sure there is an uninstaller11:58
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dechI was wondering if anyone would be able to point me in the right direction to find out how to install my soundblaster audigy 2, i have just installed kubuntu and am /quite/ impressed, but my soundcard seems to not be installed :)11:58
Seveas!audigy11:58
ubotusomebody said audigy was muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.11:58
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Seveashth11:58
amonkeycan i spoof windows? my school's internet check's for approved os's to help against spyware, and i need it to look like XP11:58
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dechAha thanks ill do that now :)11:59
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codecaineamonkey, spoof your browser?11:59
Seveasamonkey, they want windows against spyware?!?11:59
Seveasthat's such an oxymoron...11:59
WhyvasMcthahahahha11:59
codecaineyeah sounds completely backwards11:59
codecaineAnyone in here successfully load latest breezy live cd?11:59
Seveasamonkey, but what exactly do you want to spoof?11:59
no_dammagEamonkey: lol, windows against spyware, ok. Well, on what level are they filtering? TCP? HTTP? if HTTP, then a lot of browsers support spoofing e.g. Opera11:59
Seveasfirefox too :)12:00
stizoneri cant get used 2 the file layout of this... anyways, where would the right place to put xchat addons?12:00

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