[12:00] <c0rrupt_> im guessing your problem is
[12:00] <c0rrupt_> you cant get into 1025x768 resolution right?
[12:00] <ReleaseX> c0rrupt_, no
[12:00] <c0rrupt_> then
  Thanks.  I wil suggest to the folks at Ubuntu that they provide a easy, GUI way to change the X,org config.  As root of course.
[12:01] <c0rrupt_> whats t3h prb
[12:01] <titanium> pestilence: hooray, that worked. thanks
[12:01] <pestilence> titanium: good.
[12:01] <pestilence> titanium: now, can you fix *my* apache problem :)
[12:02] <titanium> pestilence: not likely i installed linux for the first time three days ago :O
[12:02] <echylo> :D
[12:02] <theD3viL> How can i enable my infrared device?? lsusb show irDA is: Mobile Action Technology, Inc. MA-620 USB Infrared Adapter
[12:02] <funkyHat> i have a problem with certain text being invisible...
[12:02] <funkyHat> on some web pages, and also in cedega
[12:03] <pestilence> titanium: hehe :)
[12:03] <geoff__> how do i play wmv files?
[12:03] <theD3viL> geoff__, with mplayer
[12:03] <titanium> this is definitely a good newbie question: i just ran the self extracting binary for the sun JDK from sun's website. it extracted everything to some random subfolder i was in at the time. all the needed files (ie javac) are there and working. where should i move things, and how do i add them to my path so i can type 'javac' anywhere and it will work? (go go multipart questions)
[12:04] <MrPockets> why wont flash media player 7 load?
[12:04] <Revan999> I can't get it to start gnome
[12:04] <mrstarkweather> yeah, I just got linux up and running...does anyone know where I can get a patch to run doom3?
[12:04] <Revan999> it gives me some type of error
[12:05] <killahkosha> ok so I got my xorg all configured and whatnot, got it to where the resolutions are "2048x1536 1024x768 800x600 640x480" and i got my vertical/hortizontal refresh plugged in correctly. But when I load up gnome the only resolutions I can select are 800x600 or 640x480
[12:05] <geoff__> mplayer says cant find codec for wmv...
[12:05] <theD3viL> mrstarkweather, patch??
[12:05] <Goodspeed__>  onaserver.no-ip.org
[12:05] <theD3viL> geoff__, apt-get install w32codecs?
[12:05] <Goodspeed__> woohooo!
[12:05] <mrstarkweather> errr..plug-in whatever I have to dl to get doom3 working
[12:06] <Goodspeed__> all i need to do is place an html file in the www directory correct?
[12:06] <pestilence> !java
[12:06] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:06] <Goodspeed__> and i'll have a homepage?
[12:06] <Goodspeed__> instead of a directory
[12:06] <Goodspeed__> lookup
[12:06] <nophix> Goodspeed_, bingo
[12:06] <EBowles> how long is memtest supposed to take?
[12:06] <Revan999> I can't get X to work it gives me an error
[12:06] <pestilence> wow, that's complicated
[12:06] <theD3viL> mrstarkweather, you have to install Cedega... or doom3 is writen for linux???
[12:06] <titanium> killahkosha under monitor you have HorizSync and VertRefresh right?
[12:06] <nophix> EBowles, depends on how much memory
[12:06] <EBowles> 160 gigs
[12:06] <theD3viL> Revan999, what its says?
[12:06] <mrstarkweather> oh, alright
[12:07] <mrstarkweather> thanks d3vil
[12:07] <killahkosha> titanium, yep
[12:07] <pestilence> titanium: i would just install it in /usr/lib/java, then setup symlinks in /usr/local/bin to anything you want
[12:07] <killahkosha> titanium, I have those correct, I checked the manufacterer's page
[12:07] <nophix> EBowles, 160GB in ram?
[12:07] <Revan999> I am not sure , it moved to fast to see it all but it couldn't start it
[12:07] <EBowles> 4 gigs in ram
[12:07] <geoff__> d3vil i  get - Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:07] <geoff__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:07] <geoff__> is only available from another source
[12:07] <geoff__> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[12:07] <theD3viL> mrstarkweather, .. is doom3 writen for linux?
[12:07] <EBowles> any ideas?
[12:07] <titanium> pestilence: what do you mean by 'install it'? just move the entire folder there?
[12:07] <theD3viL> geoff__, extra reposities?
[12:07] <pestilence> titanium: yup
[12:08] <nophix> no idea
[12:08] <pestilence> titanium: mkdir /usr/lib/java && mv jre-whatever /usr/lib/java
[12:08] <zAo^> which is better: xmule or amule??
[12:08] <Dalamar> hi, quick question; what kernel ver does the newest ubuntu release come with?
[12:08] <pestilence> Dalamar: 2.6.10
[12:08] <theD3viL> zAo^, what is different ?
[12:09] <zAo^> 2.6.10-5-$ARCH
[12:09] <Dalamar> okay thanks
[12:09] <zAo^> theD3viL, donno :)
[12:09] <theD3viL> zAo^, you can ask what is different in amule and emule
[12:09] <theD3viL> :)
[12:09] <zAo^> lol true m8 :)
[12:09] <Revan999> ok someone just told me to try and type /usr/bin/gnome-session after I log in to get X to work
[12:09] <Goodspeed__> http://onaserver.no-ip.org/
[12:10] <Goodspeed__> someone try that
[12:10] <Goodspeed__> tell me if it works?
[12:10] <Kyral> mrstarkweather, I know for a fact that DOOM3 has a native Linux install
[12:10] <mrstarkweather> yeah, and I was wondering where to get that
[12:10] <rob_p> Goodspeed:  works!
[12:10] <Kyral> it should be on the CD
[12:10] <mrstarkweather> aight, lemme try it
[12:10] <theD3viL> Kyral, doom3 is native Linux???
[12:10] <Kyral> yah
[12:11] <Kyral> like Unreal Tournament 2004
[12:11] <theD3viL> Kyral, is it free?
[12:11] <titanium> pestilence: well it's the JDK not the jre. it has a bunch of different folders inside the main folder (bin, demo, include, lib, man, jre).  for example i can't type 'man javac' and i can't use javac from any location. it's like it isn't installed properly
[12:11] <Kyral> no, you have to buy the game :P
[12:11] <Dalamar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Doom3 has all the info on gettting  it up including where to get the linux binaries .. was just reading it
[12:12] <killahkosha> How do I manually set my resolution since the Ubuntu gui thing for doing it won't let me select the resolutions I have configured?
[12:12] <theD3viL> Kyral, like Wolfenstain Enemy Teritorry... which is free
[12:12] <pestilence> titanium: very true. you will have to do some stuff to get it "installed properly"
[12:12] <pestilence> !java
[12:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:12] <zerboxx> Is there a program to help with rename multiple files similariy?
[12:12] <killahkosha> zerboxx, rename
[12:12] <pestilence> titanium: follow ubotu's instructions
[12:12] <theD3viL> Kyral, buy, yeah :)
[12:12] <pestilence> titanium: it should work for the jdk too
[12:12] <zerboxx> killahkosha: it's giving me errors, I was wondering if there was a gui type program
[12:12] <Kyral> theD3viL, you have to buy it, but like UT2k4 the Linux Installer is on the CD
[12:13] <titanium> pestilence: i tried the wiki guide, it says to convert the .bin into a .deb but i tried that and it fails horribly. it says in the wiki "you may get this error, do this to fix it". i get the error and doing what it says to fix it didn't fix it. :P
[12:13] <juanej> anyone using xine?
[12:13] <theD3viL> Kyral, on the CD? Which CD?
[12:13] <juanej> how do i load .srt subtitles with xine-ui?
[12:13] <Kyral> the INSTALL CD
[12:14] <Kyral> you have to buy the game
[12:14] <theD3viL> Kyral, aha...but i must buy for Windows??
[12:14] <Kyral> yes
[12:14] <Kyral> its all in one box
[12:15] <theD3viL> Kyral, tnx :)
[12:15] <Kyral> see see?
[12:15] <Kyral> all in one box!
[12:15] <Kyral> you'll prolly have to mount it and execute the thing manually though
[12:16] <Goodspeed__> export EDITOR=gedit && sudo crontab -e
[12:16] <Goodspeed__> what does this mean?
[12:16] <Goodspeed__> and how would i do this in terminal?
[12:16] <Kyral> ....
[12:16] <Elsidox> can anyone tell me what packages I need for x to start?
[12:16] <Goodspeed__> im following ubuntuguide
[12:16] <theD3viL> Kyral, i hope ut2k4 dont install cedega or stuff..for emulating
[12:16] <Goodspeed__> and it told me to do that
[12:16] <jogariga> i bought a dlink g630 for my powerbook? how can i get it to work?
[12:17] <Kyral> Goodspeed_, cut and paste it into a terminal
[12:17] <Kyral> it IS a terminal command
[12:17] <Kyral> theD3viL, nope, it didn't for me
[12:17] <theD3viL> Kyral, ql then..
[12:17] <Elsidox> can anyone tell me what packages I need for x to start??
[12:17] <Goodspeed__> but i dont have gedit
[12:17] <c0rrupt_> o..0
[12:17] <Kyral> Do you run GNOME?
[12:17] <deltron> apt-get install gedit
[12:17] <Kyral> Or KDE?
[12:17] <deltron> hehe
[12:18] <Goodspeed__> i have a server install of ubuntu
[12:18] <jensb> stupid newbie question: I added universe and multiverse to the package sources, but synaptic doesn't list stuff like mpg123... what am I doing wrong?
[12:18] <omeg> I have a default Ubuntu 5.04 installation. How would I be able to run KDE on it, since I want to see how that UI works?
[12:18] <Kyral> O_O
[12:18] <nickrud> Elsidox, at a minimum, x-window-system-core, and a window manager (xfce4 or twm, for example)
[12:18] <Kyral> wow
[12:18] <Goodspeed__> haha
[12:18] <Goodspeed__> that threw you for a loop
[12:18] <caldwell_> when i boot with the breezy 2.6.12-amd64-generic kernel i get the following error and kernel panic.  any ideas?
[12:18] <caldwell_> /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:18] <caldwell_> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[12:18] <Elsidox> nickrud thank you.
[12:18] <Kyral> omeg, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <theD3viL> Someone know how to enable infrared?
[12:18] <omeg> thanks
[12:18] <omeg> Would that make it default?
[12:18] <Kyral> Goodspeed_, then do you have nano? :P
[12:18] <omeg> Or would I have the choice of selecting it at user boot?
[12:19] <Goodspeed__> yea but when i do that i get a blank document
[12:19] <caldwell_> i've mkinitrd'd several initrd images, but the same thing happens on all
[12:19] <Kyral> omeg, KDM will come up somewhere in the middle and ask you
[12:19] <omeg> Wow, 300 MB
[12:19] <caldwell_> if i boot 2.6.11, it's fine
[12:19] <Kyral> Goodspeed_, prolly means nothing is there
[12:19] <Kyral> ie: New document
[12:19] <omeg> Wait, so everytime I log on, it will ask me if I want Gnome or KDE?
[12:19] <Kyral> omeg, no
[12:19] <Goodspeed__> but it says theres supposed to be a file there
[12:19] <Goodspeed__> try running it and see what it does
[12:19] <omeg> It'll just set a default during installation, then
[12:20] <Kyral> you will be able to hit the "sessions" menu and pick if you wish
[12:20] <omeg> Aha
[12:20] <omeg> That's nice.
[12:20] <Kyral> but it will log you into whatever you used last
[12:20] <omeg> Are there any other UIs I can download? Like very low-resource ones?
[12:20] <Kyral> Goodspeed_, I think that assumes you had a normal install
[12:20] <Kyral> omeg, fluxbox, Enlightenment, XFCE, blackbox...
[12:21] <caldwell_> any ideas?
[12:21] <titanium> anyone recently install the JDK in ubuntu?
[12:21] <omeg> Do you know the commands for me to apt-get those, or could I find stuff like that in the Wiki?
[12:21] <Kyral> omeg, generally just the name
[12:21] <Kyral> so like sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:21] <omeg> Okay
[12:21] <omeg> Thanks
[12:21] <omeg> :)
[12:21] <Kyral> so like sudo apt-get install xfce
[12:21] <pestilence> omeg: you prolly want xfce4
[12:22] <Kyral> if it borks, then do an apt-cache search for it
[12:22] <pestilence> omeg: as in, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[12:22] <omeg> Yeah, alright.
[12:22] <jogariga> does anyone know how to install a dlink wireless card in ubuntu using a powerbook?
[12:22] <omeg> 50% for Kubuntu... nice fast servers
[12:22] <nophix> how long time should a normal fsck.ext3 take for a 77GB partition?
[12:23] <vladuz976> anybody know how to transfer a domain to a desired server after purchasing?
[12:24] <LinuxJones> vladuz976, usually the isp hosting your website can change your dns for a small fee
[12:24] <vladuz976> LinuxJones, can i do it myself
[12:25] <LinuxJones> vladuz976, ok
[12:26] <Goodspeed__> how do i add something to startup?
[12:26] <Goodspeed__> or how do i add a script
[12:26] <Goodspeed__> so i dont ahve to type
[12:26] <Goodspeed__> a long string of comamnds
[12:26] <Goodspeed__> to start my cs server?
[12:26] <Ex-Cyber> how should I go about diagnosing unreliable/inconsistent performance on a dialup link? the connection seems to stall and drop to < 1KB/s routinely
[12:27] <Goodspeed__> so i dont have to type ./srchds_run -command -game cstrike -maxplayers 28 -map cs_assault
[12:27] <Goodspeed__> eveyrtime i want to start my server??
[12:27] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed__, does it require sudo to run the server ?
[12:27] <Goodspeed__> negative
[12:27] <Goodspeed__> i created a new user
[12:27] <Goodspeed__> to for the server
[12:27] <Goodspeed__> srds
[12:27] <Ex-Cyber> in fact, according to aptitude it seems to be dropping to exactly 891 bytes/sec
[12:27] <codecaine> what's the command to show if a package is installed
[12:27] <codecaine> ?
[12:27] <nickrud> titanium, it's been a while, but I used these instructions for java sdk: http://martinfowler.com/bliki/DebianJava.html
[12:28] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed__, you can create an alias for it called startcs or whatever and it will run the commands for you
[12:28] <rob_p> vladuz976:  As long as the entity which you purchased it from, has a way for users to change the primary and secondary nameservers for their domains, you can do it yourself.
[12:28] <Concord_Dawn> howdy everyone
[12:28] <Concord_Dawn> after another fscking GRUB reinstall
[12:28] <Goodspeed__> is there a tutorial for that?
[12:28] <nickrud> titanium, I used those on ubuntu.
[12:28] <Concord_Dawn> I'm back.
[12:28] <steven__> hey can somebody make me a favor
[12:28] <vladuz976> rob_p, i am sure they have that, but i just put the server's ip in? i only have an account on that server, it is not mine
[12:29] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed__, put the command in ~/.bashrc there is an aliases section in there commented out for an example
[12:29] <Goodspeed__> permission denied?
[12:29] <rob_p> vladuz976:  You need to make sure that the nameservers to which you point your domain, are authoritative for your domain.
[12:30] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed__, in your users home directory
[12:30] <phayded> need some help with php-mysql, lemme know if ya got time
[12:30] <Goodspeed__> ah ha!
[12:30] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed__, don't do it as root either :)
[12:30] <vladuz976> rob_p, ok, thanks
[12:30] <steven__> can somebody tell me if you see the phpinfo in 200.69.160.211
[12:30] <rob_p> vladuz976:  This means that they must have a zone file on record for your domain.  Anyway, good luck!
[12:31] <codecaine> anyone in here tell me what command to use to see if a package is installed or not?  besides synaptic
[12:31] <Goodspeed__> i logged and logged back on under the user and i still get permission denied
[12:31] <codecaine> or aptitude
[12:32] <titanium> i just got the jdk rpm and used alien to make a .deb, and then dpkg -i to install it... it's done and it didn't install it worth a damn. no manpages installed, nothing added to path, etc...
[12:32] <nickrud> codecaine, apt-cache policy <pkg>
[12:32] <mhz> has anyone here EVER synced a SonyEriccson T637??
[12:32] <codecaine> nickrud, thx
[12:32] <steven__> can somebody tell me if you see the phpinfo in 200.69.160.211
[12:32] <mhz> has anyone here EVER synced a SonyEriccson T637 (IrDA)??
[12:33] <steven__> mhz: what is the meaning of sync
[12:33] <ubuntu> hello
[12:33] <LinuxJones> ubuntu, welcome
[12:33] <ubuntu> thx
[12:33] <mhz> steven__: syncronize
[12:34] <codecaine> they
[12:34] <codecaine> they've got mysql 5.0 not php 5 yet though in testing
[12:34] <shentu> join #ubuntu
[12:34] <shentu> hello
[12:34] <robotgeek> mhz: irda, i dunno...though, bluetooth has been done
[12:34] <phayded> can someone help me.   I'm trying to setup phpWebSite for a user on my webserver (apache2, php4, mysql).  Everytime i try to configure phpWebSite, it tells me that i dont have the mysql php modules installed (which i beleive they are, i can use phpmyadmin to control mysql threw that php webpage)
[12:35] <codecaine> sure
[12:35] <codecaine> make sure you install php4-mysql
[12:35] <mhz> robotgeek: hmmm, bluetooh, eh? Ok, I give up. I'll have to buy a USB bluetooth sthing :)
[12:35] <shentu> anybody knows the root password after a fresh install of ubuntu?
[12:35] <phayded> i did, multiple times
[12:35] <nickrud> shentu, none.
[12:36] <phayded> wasnt sure if order mattered to i apt-get many differnt ways both that and php4
[12:36] <nickrud> !rootsudo
[12:36] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:36] <shentu> thanks nickrud
[12:36] <mhz> robotgeek: plug and play? or it took a while?
[12:36] <robotgeek> mhz: i don't know if the irda on my laptop is supported even!
[12:36] <mhz> robotgeek: hehehe, me too
[12:36] <codecaine> shentu, you need to create on eif you want
[12:36] <robotgeek> btw, does anyone have a powerbook Tibook , and knows if the inbuilt microphone works/ or is supported by ubuntu?
[12:37] <Chaotic_Reality> does anyone here use thunderbird?  i checked the option to remember my password, but i changed my password and now it won't authenticate to the mail server and i'm not sure how to clear the password, or change it.
[12:37] <shentu> hi codecaine
[12:37] <Chaotic_Reality> tried recreating the account to no avail
[12:37] <robotgeek> Chaotic_Reality: go to options, advanced, password
[12:38] <shentu> do you know the root password after a fresh install?
[12:38] <codecaine> shentu, hi
[12:38] <shentu> I cannot config my system right after the fresh install.
[12:39] <Chaotic_Reality> robotgeek, not there, but it lead me in the right place. heh edit->preferenced->advanced
[12:39] <DanteAlighieri> don't you just need to set the root pword?
[12:39] <shentu> yes
[12:39] <DanteAlighieri> so set it via sudo
[12:39] <robotgeek> Chaotic_Reality: :)
[12:41] <Goodspeed__> how do i run .bashrc
[12:41] <vladuz976> how can i transform fc3 rpms to dpkg ?
[12:41] <shentu> DanteAlighieri, how to use sudo,
[12:41] <Goodspeed__> if i get permission denied
[12:41] <Goodspeed__> ?
[12:41] <DanteAlighieri> !sudo
[12:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:41] <nickrud> Goodspeed__, you don't run bashrc, it's read whenever you log into a terminal
[12:42] <nickrud> Goodspeed__, if you want to reread it, do source ~/.bashrc
[12:42] <ian> anyone have tomboy working in hoary?
[12:43] <laxise> hi here ... just a small question ... if i wanna untar something ... what is the easiest comman to untar a directory to a new directory in the same folder
[12:44] <phayded> if a php webpage is tell me that i dont have the mysql php libraries installed, but another php mysql program (phpmyadmin) works with mysql, does that mean i have the libraries and theres another problem?
[12:44] <n1xt3r> Goodspeed: . ~/.bashrc
[12:44] <FR500> laxise: i would mkdir, then go to the directory and then tar zxvf /location/of/file/file
[12:44] <laxise> thx
[12:45] <PlutoPrime> New ATI drivers released today
[12:45] <shentu> thanks guys, got how to use sudo.
[12:45] <ginipig> hi guys, does anyone know if the apt-sources are primarily non-responsive or crazily slow?
[12:46] <Concord_Dawn> is there anyway to force logout a user?
[12:46] <ginipig> Concord_Dawn: hah, i asked the same q yesterday
[12:47] <Goodspeed__> nick i type that and i get permission denied
[12:47] <Goodspeed__> i need to add an alias to taht
[12:47] <ginipig> Concord_Dawn: no useful advice besides killing all shells that they're using
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> hm.
[12:47] <Goodspeed__> according to jones
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> tbh
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> that's a crappy way of doing it
[12:47] <ginipig> Concord_Dawn: well, duh :)
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> any way to boot a user of SSH?
[12:47] <Concord_Dawn> like force close their SSH session?
[12:48] <nickrud> Goodspeed__, ls -l ~/.bashrc, post just the answering line
[12:48] <FR500> Concord_Dawn: only one?
[12:48] <redguy> Concord_Dawn: there was a package in Debian in the lines of slash slay or something like that, it would killa all processes belonging to a user
[12:48] <ginipig> Concord_Dawn: /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[12:48] <robotgeek> Concord_Dawn: kill the ssh process for that user
[12:48] <FR500> ginipig: better restart
[12:48] <Concord_Dawn> tbh
[12:48] <Goodspeed__> it says /home/srds/.bashrc
[12:48] <ginipig> tbh
[12:48] <Concord_Dawn> There's gotta be better ways to do that.
[12:48] <ginipig> FR500: yeah
[12:49] <nickrud> Goodspeed__, I think I saw someone reminding you not to edit .bashrc as root, I wanted to check the permissions. There's more on that line
[12:49] <redguy> Concord_Dawn: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/slay.html see if its availible in Ubuntu
[12:49] <ian> anyone here use tomboy?
[12:49] <Goodspeed__> negative and im not under root
[12:50] <nickrud> -rw-r--r--  1 aias aias 1523 2005-08-03 21:29 /home/aias/.bashrc
[12:50] <nickrud>  that's mine, you should have similar, with srds in place of aias
[12:50] <Concord_Dawn> redguy, looks like it.
[12:50] <Concord_Dawn> There's nothing that says it isn't....
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> wait i typed nano .bashrc
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> so now can i add aliases?
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> i can open the file that way
[12:51] <nickrud> Goodspeed__, yes, that's how you add aliases :)
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> lol
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> ok
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> now how do i add aliases
[12:51] <Goodspeed__> i was told i need to do them
[12:52] <Goodspeed__> because i whenever i run my cs server
[12:52] <Goodspeed__> i need to type a long string of commands
[12:52] <nickrud> a good one:   alias ac='apt-cache'
[12:52] <Goodspeed__> to start it
[12:52] <laxise> FR500: u wrote about tar to me ... what is the option -f for?? i read the man but did not become wiser
[12:52] <nickrud> so, put the commands you want to the right of the equals sign (between the ticks), and the command you want to use to the left
[12:52] <Goodspeed__> ahhh k
[12:53] <gilv> is there a program to convert rtf file into html ?
[12:53] <redguy> nickrud: it tells tar to read from a file
[12:53] <redguy> nickrud: since tar is something like Tape ARchiver
[12:53] <DanteAlighieri> gilv: can't OpenOffice do that?
[12:53] <nickrud> redguy?
[12:53] <redguy> nickrud?
[12:54] <nickrud> lol
[12:54] <gilv> DanteAlighieri: i found unrtf
[12:54] <laxise> does anyone know for what for the -f option in command tar is???
[12:54] <Goodspeed__> ok so this is what I do to start my half life 2 server i go to /usr/bin/steam/srcs_1/ and then i type ./srds_run -command -game cstrike -maxplayers 28
[12:54] <Goodspeed__> how do i do taht as an alias?
[12:54] <phayded> when say a php web site calls the mysql server to connect, does it try threw port 3306?
[12:54] <DanteAlighieri> [1538]  <redguy> nickrud: it tells tar to read from a file
[12:54] <surfdue> how do i find out if im using xorg or xfree
[12:54] <surfdue> is hoary using xorg or xfree?
[12:55] <DanteAlighieri> nm
[12:55] <robotgeek> surfdue: xorg
[12:55] <funkyHat> xorg
[12:55] <redguy> nickrud: delay that explanation, -f specifies the file, the default is STDOUT
[12:55] <nickrud> hm, maybe alias hl='cd /usr/bin/steam/srcs_1/ && ./srds_run -command -game cstrike -maxplayers 28'
[12:55] <surfdue> command not found
[12:55] <zyros> d
[12:55] <Goodspeed__> sounds good
[12:55] <redguy> DanteAlighieri: huh?
[12:55] <Goodspeed__> so then if i type hl it would run that?
[12:56] <Goodspeed__> and do i just put that at the bottom of .bashrc?
[12:56] <rob_p> Concord_Dawn:  You could do something like the following:  ps aux | grep sshd | egrep '^username'  which would get the process number of the ssh connection associated with username.  Then just kill that process.
[12:56] <nickrud> Goodspeed__, yes, and yes
[12:56] <Goodspeed__> sweet
[12:56] <SnakeBite> how can i see STDOUT or STDERR of some program?
[12:56] <DanteAlighieri> redguy: nm, I was repeating something you said to nikrud for the benefit of laxise
[12:56] <surfdue> can someone tell me a dvd player
[12:56] <titanium> how can i check how much disk space i have free through ssh?
[12:56] <redguy> DanteAlighieri: ah I can see it now
[12:56] <nickrud> ah :)
[12:57] <sorush20> hellllooooooooooooo
[12:57] <rob_p> titanium:  df -h
[12:57] <sorush20> I'm back after two days..
[12:57] <sorush20> anyone here had problems with ndiswrapper
[12:57] <rox_> i have a quick question
[12:57] <vladuz976> anyone know how to change displaymanger?
[12:58] <sorush20> It turns out to get the card working you have to change four 0 (zeros) into four 1 (ones)
[12:58] <rox_> i'm installing my video driver and its telling me to exit the x server but when i did that it practically restarted my computer and i had to log back in...
[12:58] <nickrud> vladuz976, which one do you want?
[12:58] <titanium> rob_p: thanks
[12:58] <vladuz976> nickrud, e17 entrance
[12:58] <EBowles> how long is mtest supposed to take with 4 gigs of ram?
[12:58] <rob_p> titanium:  No prob :-)
[12:58] <vladuz976> nickrud, i installed it and it comes with a /etc/init.d/entrance file, i just don't know how to use it
[12:59] <nickrud> vladuz976, check for an Sxxentrance file in /etc/rc2.d first
[12:59] <rox_> does anyone know how to exit the x server so i can install my graphics card?
[01:00] <vladuz976> nickrud, not there
[01:00] <funkyHat> rox_, is it an nvidia card?
[01:00] <rox_> yep
[01:00] <rox_> the readme just says exit the x server
[01:00] <vladuz976> S99entrance there
[01:00] <funkyHat> have you tried the ubuntu nvidia drivers?
[01:00] <vladuz976> nickrud, sorry
[01:00] <nickrud> vladuz976, then, do you have S13gdm in rc2.d?
[01:00] <rox_> i wasnt aware there were some, i'll look for them
[01:00] <phayded> can anyone drop a webpage/tutorial on reconfiguring php4, or upgrading php-4.3 to php-4.4?
[01:00] <vladuz976> correct
[01:01] <vladuz976> nickrud, correct
[01:01] <funkyHat> ( rox_ synaptic, install nvidia-glx, and do the command it tells you to do in the description of that package)
[01:01] <nickrud> vladuz976, then, exit your desktop, press ctrl-alt-f1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then sudo /etc/init.d/entrance start
[01:01] <nickrud> vladuz976, should work ;)
[01:02] <surfdue> im using xfce
[01:02] <rox_> wooo i got it thanks funky i hope this works!
[01:02] <surfdue> i cant find sympathic package manager
[01:02] <surfdue> how do i start it
[01:02] <Shindon_M> what's the difference between the 3 Sound System ALSA, OSS and ESD and which is the best??
[01:03] <funkyHat> surfdue, system > administration > synaptic package manager
[01:03] <EBowles> how long is memtest supposed to take with 4 gigs of ram?
[01:03] <nickrud> surfdue, you can run run sudo synaptic from a terminal inside xfce4
[01:03] <funkyHat> Shindon_M, there are lots of differences, and, well, the best one is whichever one happens to work for you ;)
[01:03] <Shindon_M> ok well thx *G*
[01:04] <funkyHat> oh, sorry surfdue didn't realise you were on xfce
[01:04] <nickrud> Shindon_M, OSS is depreciated, alsa is the kernel modules for sound, and esd is a stream mixer that uses alsa
[01:04] <surfdue> !dvd
[01:04] <ubotu> I heard dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[01:04] <vladuz976> nickrud, why do i have to exit desktop?
[01:04] <funkyHat> esd sucks for me. >1 second delay :/
[01:04] <surfdue> how do i get there on xfce
[01:04] <rox_> wooo thanks funky!
[01:04] <libanes> ubuntu-es?
[01:04] <nickrud> vladuz976, because you're gonna run a new desktop.
[01:04] <vladuz976> nickrud, oh you mean exit, then exit dgm then log in on console
[01:04] <nickrud> vladuz976, yeah
[01:04] <vladuz976> nickrud, got it
[01:04] <surfdue> i start totem
[01:05] <surfdue> but it wont play dvds
[01:05] <vladuz976> nickrud, brb then
[01:05] <funkyHat> surfdue, gksudo synaptic in a terminal window will bring it up
[01:05] <redguy> Shindon_M: ESD is a sound *daemon* it needs either alsa or oss to work. OSS is kindof deprecated.
[01:05] <surfdue> i dont know how to open it
[01:05] <auk> !encrypt
[01:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, auk
[01:05] <auk> !crypt
[01:05] <Shindon_M> ok
[01:06] <Shindon_M> so OSS is the best choice
[01:06] <redguy> surfdue: totem sucks, try mplayer or xine
[01:07] <surfdue> k
[01:07] <NoUse> xine has the best support for DVD menus I believe
[01:07] <redguy> Shindon_M: not really, ALSA is newer than OSS
[01:07] <nickrud> Shindon_M, no, if you can get your apps to use alsa directly, you're better off. Some sound cards do it easily, some are much harder to set up.
[01:07] <athlon> anyone know any media player that support idx-sub subtitles ?
[01:07] <athlon> tried xine and mplayer, doesnt seem to work
[01:07] <surfdue> no such mplayer or package
[01:07] <surfdue> xine
[01:07] <QMario> How was everyone's day?
[01:08] <nickrud> !sound
[01:08] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[01:08] <EBowles> how long is memtest supposed to take with 4 gigs of ram?
[01:08] <Shindon_M> i had problems with cedega i had to kill my ESD sound system in order to get sound in Cedega games
[01:08] <reiki> !java
[01:08] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:08] <nickrud> Shindon_M, those ubotu links will help with your cedega problem
[01:08] <Shindon_M> thanks
[01:08] <surfdue> !mplayer
[01:08] <ubotu> surfdue: I give up, what is it?
[01:08] <surfdue> i dont know
[01:08] <QMario> !Botsnack
[01:08] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[01:08] <surfdue> u tell me
[01:08] <QMario> !DVD
[01:08] <ubotu> I heard dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[01:09] <QMario> !libdvdcss
[01:09] <ubotu> QMario: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:09] <surfdue> how do i install mplayer!
[01:09] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[01:09] <surfdue> dammit people
[01:09] <surfdue> lol
[01:09] <Concord_Dawn> !libdvd
[01:09] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:09] <redguy> surfdue: you should enable universe and/or multiverse to get these i think
[01:09] <QMario> !multimedia
[01:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[01:09] <surfdue> i have universe
[01:09] <nickrud> !libdvdcss2
[01:09] <ubotu> nickrud: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:09] <Blazer_ES> Hello
[01:09] <QMario> Ubotu, tell surfdue about multimedia.
[01:09] <redguy> !tell surfdue about multimedia
[01:09] <redguy> hah
[01:10] <QMario> Redguy, it has already been done. ;)
[01:10] <QMario> Redguy, how was your day?
[01:10] <Blazer_ES> My install progress still freezes at 12% when creating the partition ext3
[01:10] <rob_p> EBowles:  Are you using Memtest86 per chance?  If so, it will execute indefinitely making passes over and  over again.  Are you sure it hasn't been doing this?  Also are you executing all the tests (specifically test 9 - bit fade test)?  That one alone takes 3 hours!
[01:10] <redguy> I see. I'm not a fast typer you know :P
[01:10] <mick> early morning to you all from irish land
[01:10] <Blazer_ES> What are we doing tonight brain? The same thing we try everynight pinky: Try to install Ubuntu!
[01:11] <redguy> Blazer_ES: how can you tell it freezes? no HD activity?
[01:11] <nickrud> rflol
[01:11] <mick> blazer whats scarey is my hr "manager", thinks i made the line from pinky and the brain up!!
[01:11] <reiki> ok if activate hoary-extras to install java, am I better off doing this through apt?  And will activating hoary-extras get me "updates" I don't necessarily want?
[01:12] <Blazer_ES> Well it just stays at 12% for hours
[01:12] <Blazer_ES> lol mick
[01:12] <nickrud> reiki, the best way is to enable the extras, apt-get install java, then disable extras. No extraneous stuff that way.
[01:12] <mick> not so much as lol, but scarey!!
[01:12] <reiki> nickrud: ok... thanks :)
[01:12] <mick> reiki you could just install java manually
[01:12] <nickrud> reiki, um I forgot the apt-get update :)
[01:13] <Blazer_ES> I think the hdd might be defective
[01:13] <mick> its not that difficult
[01:13] <redguy> QMario: ooh, missed a line again.
[01:13] <jasoncohen> i also see "skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o" : no symbol
[01:13] <mick> blazer have you tried using a bootable cdrom to check the disk?
[01:13] <EBowles> can anybody walk me through or point me to a guide where I can somehow get ubuntu working (getting a crc error) without losing the stuff in my user directory
[01:13] <cafuego> Oh, look, a directory with 380MB of virus email.
[01:13] <surfdue> is there a way 2 fix skype in gnome
[01:13] <mick> also if you have defective block checking on it takes ages, at least it did on my p2 celeron 500 here
[01:13] <booger> having problems with Lirc can someone help ??
[01:13] <surfdue> only gnome skype wontm work
[01:13] <jasoncohen> apt-file search spencode.o shows nothing
[01:14] <funkyHat> reiki, no, hoary extras is pretty much just extras, that aren't in the other repos
[01:14] <Blazer_ES> Ah I have downloaded a analasys tool from maxtors homepage but havent got any empty cd's to write on
[01:14] <redguy> QMario: My day was fine. Since I'm on holiday I'm trying to catch last moments of summer
[01:14] <surfdue> !skype
[01:14] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/
[01:14] <mick> surfdue: yes...i have a link for you
[01:14] <titanium> i installed sun-jdk through synaptic but when i try to use java i get 'could not find libjava.so'. any ideas?
[01:14] <mick> covers sound in general
[01:14] <redguy> !java ?
[01:14] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:14] <gmoore> the wiki guide doesn't work
[01:14] <Newb> total newb with problems with grub
[01:15] <funkyHat> worked for me :)
[01:15] <Newb> need some help
[01:15] <funkyHat> Newb, just ask :)
[01:15] <redguy> Newb: state the nature of yuor problem
[01:15] <Newb> grub just hangs after the install
[01:15] <phayded> can someone drop a link for configuring php4 or upgrading from php-4.3 to php-4.4
[01:15] <mick> for sound::  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=1&pp=10
[01:16] <gmoore> at the bottom, about "This is due to a bug in dpkg-architecture on newer systems. Run dpkg-architecture and find the line similar to" -- for me my architecture IS i386-linux. it won't make-jpkg correctly. it always fails
[01:16] <Newb> just says "Grub Loading, please wait"
[01:16] <reiki> ok... for java with extras open and update run... I apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 ?
[01:16] <icewt> anyone happen to know how to change the look of menu buttons etc. in GTK1 apps? (so that they would look nicer for example in xmms)
[01:16] <rosborn> Hello all
[01:16] <rosborn> I'm a noob just had to get that out
[01:16] <booger> having problems with Lirc can someone help ?? please ....
[01:16] <rosborn> I have azures Bt and it was working fine now it will not open
[01:17] <gmoore> funkyHat: any idea why i can't make-jpkg? :(
[01:17] <rosborn> Can't figure out what is going on
[01:17] <nickrud> reiki, I don't have extras enabled, but that sounds reasonable :)
[01:17] <Blazer_ES> SO where can I get a hardware analysis program? for windows? that will scan my other hdd for corruption?
[01:17] <funkyHat> gmoore, no, sorry :(
[01:17] <phayded> can someone drop a link for configuring php4 or upgrading from php-4.3 to php-4.4
[01:17] <mick> blazer why use cough cough windoze????
[01:17] <redguy> Newb: this is odd. where did you install grub? the MBR?
[01:18] <mick> you can use efsck from a bootable cd
[01:18] <Blazer_ES> I havent got any empty cds here to wirte on
[01:18] <booger> please ??
[01:18] <Newb> redguy: yeah, just finished the install, already have XP and was installing ubuntu
[01:18] <mick> blazer:: shuzbots!
[01:18] <Madpilot> hi all
[01:19] <mick> there goes that plan
[01:19] <Newb> on the reboot, it just hangs
[01:19] <booger> please ??
[01:19] <mattyJ> is beagle installed by default on colony3?
[01:19] <rosborn> Anyone have any Ideas why Azureus would not open
[01:19] <booger> having problems with Lirc can someone help ??
[01:19] <rosborn> I worked fine beforen now Ican not get it to run
[01:19] <mick> after all a cd is the ideal way as then you can check the disk without any os having it mounted
[01:19] <nickrud> gmoore, try changing it to uname -m
[01:19] <mick> sorry booger, new to this lrc stuff
[01:19] <jasoncohen> what does the speedo module do?
[01:19] <phayded> is there any simple way of editing the configure for php4?
[01:19] <mick> more used to lamp then front end shtuff
[01:20] <booger> ok
[01:20] <rosborn> I think it may have something to do with and update I ran last night
[01:20] <jasoncohen> i'm getting an unknown symbol spencode.o in libspeedo.a
[01:20] <rosborn> not sure what all consteted of the update
[01:20] <jasoncohen> when i attempt to start X...i think that's causing the server to abort
[01:20] <redguy> Newb: Is it an old box? Bootloaders might have trouble when installed not at the beggining of the drive AFAIR
[01:21] <Newb> it's one year old, WD HD, with WinXP
[01:21] <redguy> and how was your day QMario ?
[01:21] <Blazer_ES> should be possible from windows too because on that hdd there is nothing
[01:21] <nickrud> Newb, what bus is your drive on?
[01:21] <reiki> ok... java installed and working in firefox... that was pretty painless
[01:21] <Newb> nickrub: no clue
[01:21] <redguy> Newb: is it a SATA?
[01:22] <Newb> no IDE
[01:22] <rosborn> Can someone help me with Bittorret program
[01:22] <reiki> !find bluefish
[01:22] <ubotu> bluefish: (gtk+ HTML editor), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0+cvs2005021601-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1350 kB, Installed size: 5984 kB
[01:22] <nickrud> Newb, you can try making sure lba is enabled in bios, oh, no ide, I quit :)
[01:22] <IceDC571> does anyone in here use breezy?
[01:22] <rosborn> for some reason it will not open I'm using Azureus it was working fin
[01:22] <c0rrupt_> MeeP
[01:22] <nickrud> IceDC571, I am at the moment
[01:22] <rosborn> not sure what the issue may be
[01:22] <Blazer_ES> or can it be because its on a RAid pci controller card?
[01:23] <HrdwrBoB> is it a raid card.
[01:23] <HrdwrBoB> if it's IDE I seriously doubt it
[01:23] <redguy> Newb: Seems pretty regular config. Can't think of anything that could be wrong, sorry
[01:23] <IceDC571> nickrud: how is it.. does it have many issues?
[01:24] <reiki> bluefish installed... man this is easy
[01:24] <reiki> !find k3b
[01:24] <nickrud> IceDC571, not really, I'm using it for day to day work (with serious backups :)
[01:24] <Newb> thanks, redguy
[01:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'k3b' (4 shown): k3b ;; k3b-i18n ;; k3blibs ;; k3blibs-dev.
[01:24] <Newb> do you know what version of grub comes with ubuntu 5.04
[01:25] <nickrud> IceDC571, if you've ever used debian's experimental, it's more stable than that.
[01:25] <lvraab> 0.95 isn't it??
[01:25] <Revan999> how do i edit grub to boot only windows so i can delete ubuntu?
[01:25] <redguy> Revan999: why on earth would you want to do that?
[01:26] <Revan999> because i can't get it to work
[01:26] <redguy> Revan999: how come?
[01:26] <reiki> oh my... didn't realize k3b is a KDE app... now it's installing KDE as well ... heheheh... oopsie
[01:26] <Revan999> idk
[01:26] <Revan999> it just don't work
[01:26] <lvraab> well, that's descriptive
[01:26] <Dalamar> k3b will run under gnome as well
[01:26] <Revan999> no matter what I do I can't get X to work
[01:26] <delltony> anyone here have any experience with moto4lin?
[01:27] <nickrud> reiki, it's not really getting all of kde, only the stuff that k3b needs.
[01:27] <rosborn> can I uninstall a program from terminal ?
[01:27] <Madpilot> reiki: k3b works just fine in Gnome, but you do have to have a pile of KDE libs
[01:27] <rosborn> I'm sure I can but can someone give me a hint on how
[01:27] <Newb> any suggestion on how I can get grub to work, it's hanging after the install and I can't boot
[01:27] <Newb> trying to run a dual boot
[01:27] <dbernar1> !seen bob2
[01:27] <ubotu> bob2 is currently on #ubuntu
[01:27] <Madpilot> rosborn: try "man apt-get" to get the apt-get help
[01:27] <reiki> nickrud: ok.. thanks again... trying to get my Ubuntu to replace everything I do in XP. Seems pretty easy so far
[01:28] <IceDC571> nickrud: alright.. thanks for the info, i think i'll go ahead and use breezy, it also looks like theres a new release today, eh?
[01:28] <redguy> Revan999: you should restore the XP boot record, try looking in google
[01:28] <nickrud> reiki, you may need to change the way you do some things, but you can get it done, usually.
[01:28] <Dalamar> k3b is easily the best cd/dvd burner for linux imo
[01:28] <skalpel> gnomebaker, cough
[01:28] <cafuego> Dalamar: It's just a front-end.
[01:29] <Goodspeed__> how do i scroll up in console?
[01:29] <cafuego> Goodspeed__:shift- page-up
[01:29] <redguy> Revan999: As to X problems, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[01:29] <dbernar1> bob2: you think you have any information for me about Internet Connection sharing? I have a more specific question, I just dont know if you are here..
[01:29] <Dalamar> regardless front end or not its ease of use is the key, especially for users transitioning from windows
[01:29] <reiki> k3b finished installing but I can't find it on a menu... anyone know how I get it there?
[01:29] <cafuego> Dalamar: My point is that it's justa  shell, not in fact a burning application at all.
[01:30] <redguy> dbernar1: you might want to read about firestarter to do that I think
[01:30] <Dalamar> true
[01:30] <britt_lwt> .join #ruby-lang
[01:30] <dbernar1> redguy: I know how to set that up. I wanna set something else up.
[01:30] <dbernar1> redguy: thanks.
[01:30] <Snorks> Does Ubuntu find ATI cards and automagically fix 3d acceleration?
[01:30] <Newb> any suggestion on how I can get grub to work, it's hanging after the install and I can't boot. trying to run s dual boot and it just hangs
[01:30] <redguy> dbernar1: what do you want to set up then?
[01:30] <Madpilot> Snorks: you'll need to install the drivers
[01:31] <dbernar1> Snorks: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowTo or so
[01:31] <nickrud> !ati
[01:31] <Snorks> Madpilot: will it be able to config itself?
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:31] <Madpilot> ubotu tell Snorks about ati
[01:31] <dbernar1> oh, now there is a separate one...
[01:31] <Madpilot> Snorks: mine works with just the basic drivers installed, no need for tweaking. I've got a 9600XT
[01:31] <reiki> heheh... ok n00bness showing... installed k3b and now I can't find it... how to start it
[01:32] <Madpilot> reiki: in a terminal, just type "k3b"
[01:32] <dbernar1> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.
[01:32] <dbernar1> However, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out
[01:32] <dbernar1> redguy: ^
[01:32] <reiki> Madpilot: doh.... that easy... dang it
[01:32] <teressa> Hello boys
[01:32] <simprix> What is the status of breezy
[01:32] <jdnewmil> I initially setup my Kubuntu to use dhcp... but I want it to use a static IP instead now.  I fixed /etc/network/interfaces, but the boot process still seems to prefer dhcp, so I have to manually ifdown/ifup to get my static IP... where to look?
[01:32] <teressa> How is everyone?
[01:32] <dbernar1> hey teressa
[01:32] <Newb> Anyone have probles with a WD HD and Grub or lilo
[01:32] <simprix> when will it be released
[01:32] <dbernar1> aight...;)
[01:32] <darkheart> reiki If you log out/log in, it might appear in the menu, if not, I think smeg can help you edit the menu to place it there.
[01:32] <Madpilot> reiki: yeah, but no menu entry... you can create a launcher easily, though
[01:32] <tandy> this is al ttle off topic, but can anyone reccomend a web interface for email
[01:33] <simprix> horde
[01:33] <teressa> Quick question, my second CD-RW drive bombed when I tried to burn something with K3B
[01:33] <jogariga> i need help installing d-link g630 on a powerbook?
[01:33] <teressa> Any suggestions on settings to change??
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> teressa: squirrel mail is good
[01:33] <Snorks> woot
[01:33] <Snorks> woow
[01:33] <Snorks> wow
[01:33] <dbernar1> ok
[01:33] <cafuego> jogariga: Just give up now.
[01:33] <nickrud> reiki, if you can see a k3b.desktop file in /usr/share/applications, it will be on the menu next login
[01:33] <vladuz976> nickrud, the sudo /etc/init.d/entrance start, how do i make that permanent
[01:33] <teressa> Squirrel mail?
[01:33] <b3nw> can anyone suggest a good wifi with WEP howto? i'm in ubuntu but xfce4
[01:33] <IceDC571> is colony 3 of breezy out?
[01:33] <reiki> k3b needs cdrda0 package installed? hmmmmm
[01:33] <jogariga> cafuego: why?
[01:33] <Snorks> im a gentoo user atm, but i think ubuntu will be the distro for me. everything ive read looks 200% promising
[01:33] <teressa> reiki, I have that
[01:34] <IceDC571> oh wait im stupid.. its in the topic
[01:34] <teressa> basically, it began to burn, then just spun down and stopped
[01:34] <dbernar1> Snorks: propaganda.
[01:34] <Snorks> dbernar1: ?
[01:34] <cafuego> jogariga: a d630 pmcia card will need nsdiwrapper and windows drivers. those are never ever going run run on a powerbook.
[01:34] <reiki> teressa: I can just apt-get cdrda0?
[01:34] <vladuz976> nickrud, i rebooted and it goes back into gdm
[01:34] <nickrud> vladuz976, since S13gdm is called first, the S99entrance does not get run.  A hack is to sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[01:34] <jogariga> cafuego: what do you recommed to buy?
[01:34] <dbernar1> Snorks: all youve read seems 200% promising - propaganda.
[01:34] <tandy> HrdwrBoB, thanks
[01:34] <simprix> how can i upgrade to breezy
[01:35] <nickrud> vladuz976, a real hacky thing to do.
[01:35] <teressa> reiki, what do you mean? I believe I have cdrda0 installed...
[01:35] <cafuego> jogariga: www.prism54.org - note the card version numbers (ie the wg311 v2 or v3 will NOT work, but the v1 does)
[01:35] <rob_p> tandy:  I've used Squirrelmail for about 3 years on 2 of my servers.  It's worked flawlessly the whole time.  I'd highly recommend it!
[01:35] <vladuz976> nickrud, if i ever want it back how would i do it?
[01:35] <Newb> any suggestion on how I can get grub to work, it's hanging after the install and I can't boot. trying to run s dual boot and it just hangs, PLEASE HELP!!!
[01:35] <dbernar1> newb no errors during install?
[01:35] <Newb> none
[01:35] <nickrud> vladuz976, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[01:36] <cafuego> jogariga: At the veriy least, a standard orinoco 802.11b will work just fine./
[01:36] <mick> newb,sorry i have no help to offer
[01:36] <dbernar1> no errors while it hangs?
[01:36] <Snorks> dbernar1: call it what you want, im gonna give ubuntu amd64 a chance
[01:36] <surfdue> does anyone know how to fix gnome
[01:36] <surfdue> skype
[01:36] <dbernar1> good luck. It was a joke, btw, lighten up...
[01:36] <Newb> nope, the cursor just falshes
[01:36] <surfdue> skype on gnome
[01:36] <mick> install kde?  :-P
[01:36] <surfdue> no.
[01:36] <dbernar1> Newb: what could possibly fix that...
[01:36] <surfdue> kde sucks.
[01:36] <tandy> rob_p ok ill check it out.. loks to be wut im lookign for
[01:36] <nickrud> surfdue, it's probably a sound problem, I've seen it here before (I don't run skype)
[01:37] <dbernar1> Newb: reinstall, md5sum (checksum) the CD, hope you made partitions separate for data.
[01:37] <nickrud> ubotu !tell surfdue about sound
[01:37] <ubotu> nickrud: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:37] <teressa> hmmm, well at least I have a new coaster
[01:37] <mick> for skype and other sound problems heres a good link
[01:37] <reiki> ok that was easy enough. K3b starts now and auto-detected my Plextor
[01:37] <nickrud> ack
[01:37] <mick> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=1&pp=10
[01:37] <surfdue> !tell me about sounds
[01:37] <gilv> for file in * ; do cat $file ; done => How should this command be written when file contain spaces ?
[01:37] <surfdue> !sounds
[01:37] <ubotu> surfdue: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:37] <dbernar1> !msg the bot
[01:37] <mick> surfdue just posted a link for you!!
[01:37] <surfdue> err
[01:37] <surfdue> !skype
[01:37] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/
[01:37] <Newb> dbernar1: reinstall both systems? or just ubuntu
[01:37] <redguy> dbernar1: the default gateway is set up properly on the mac box? can the linux box ping tha mex box?
[01:38] <redguy> s/mex/mac/
[01:38] <cafuego> gilv: "$file"
[01:38] <mick> did the sound link help?
[01:38] <gilv> cafuego: i tried it but it doesn't work
[01:39] <dbernar1> Ill try that, good idea. the second one, pinging the Mac, never thought of that. I did not touch anything in  regard of the default gateway. It is I think shown as the right one, 192.168.0.1, it all gets done by DHCP.
[01:39] <cafuego> gilv: for file in *; do cat "$file"; done
[01:39] <cafuego> gilv: Of course, 'cat *' do the same.
[01:39] <dbernar1> redguy: ^ the worst part is it worked for a wehile, I hate that.
[01:39] <o2kr> join #ubuntu-es
[01:39] <o2kr> lol
[01:39] <o2kr> sorry
[01:39] <o2kr> xD
[01:39] <redguy> dbernar1: heh, happens sometimes, propably some config didn't get saved :_)
[01:39] <dbernar1> newb, I would reinstall the Ubuntu...
[01:39] <teressa> What is the correct command to run K3B in the terminal?
[01:40] <haja> What is a good CPU temp display prog for Ubuntu/Linux?
[01:40] <dbernar1> it didnt cause of the hard reboot, I hate it.
[01:40] <dbernar1> k3b enter
[01:40] <dbernar1> I think
[01:40] <dbernar1> try k3 tab
[01:40] <darkheart> It's k3gb
[01:40] <teressa> Do I have to run it as root?
[01:40] <darkheart> sorry k3b
[01:40] <darkheart> teressa You might have to.
[01:40] <dbernar1> ok, Im out, thanks for the idea, redguy.
[01:41] <teressa> So what is the command if I wanted to add it using SMEG?
[01:41] <Newb> dbernar1: I will, but I tried PCLos9 yesterday, twice and Lilo stalled both times afte installing ... i'm thinking it's something more
[01:41] <teressa> k3b &?
[01:41] <darkheart> teressa I've never used smeg, so I couldn't help you there.
[01:41] <reiki> teressa: I opened a terminal and just typed k3b  not root and no sudo before. That what you meant?
[01:41] <mick> never even heard of smeg till now
[01:41] <mick> sorry :-(
[01:41] <teressa> well yea... but I heard you need to run it as root
[01:41] <reiki> I didn't
[01:42] <redguy> you don't
[01:42] <Newb> dbernar1: but lilo hung as well, similar problem
[01:42] <nickrud> teressa, I think you need to get smeg from backports
[01:42] <darkheart> teressa Sometimes that is the case in order to access certain resources. You can try running it as root.
[01:42] <EBowles> I just installed a new video card, now when I boot its saying "I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly."
[01:42] <teressa> okay...
[01:42] <mick> you run k3bsetup as root, but it prompts you for a password if you start it as an ordinary user
[01:42] <teressa> SMEG is money, all of you guys should get it
[01:42] <maximaus> gksudo /usr/bin/k3b
[01:42] <teressa> ahhh I get it
[01:42] <nickrud> EBowles, log into a console, and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:43] <mick> free money??
[01:43] <Madpilot> haja: lm-sensors & either ksensor or xsensor as a front end. see the forums for a tutorial
[01:43] <haja> Ok, thanks Madpilot
[01:43] <mick> money to spend on the worlds greatest porn delivery medium??  :-)
[01:43] <ccfiel> hello ppl...
[01:43] <darkheart> EBowles Makes sense if it's a different chipset...Would require a different driver.
[01:43] <teressa> whoa
[01:44] <teressa> This is like totally differnet
[01:44] <mick> lol teressa
[01:44] <teressa> What is the differnce?
[01:44] <ccfiel> i have a question... how do i export to my openoffice calc an text file? please help me..:(
[01:44] <Madpilot> teressa: what's different?
[01:44] <haja> Is there much difference between the two Madpilot ?
[01:45] <teressa> mick: k3b... do I have to run it as root?
[01:45] <maximaus> ccfiel, do it as a ".csv"
[01:45] <Madpilot> haja: don't think so, except that I found ksensors easier to configure, even tho I"m in Gnome...
[01:45] <maximaus> csv=comma separated values
[01:45] <EBowles> how much memory do I want to be used in my video card?
[01:46] <haja> Ok, I'm in gnome too. I'll try that one first. Thanks again
[01:46] <darkheart> EBowles The amount that it has.
[01:46] <surfdue> thanks soooo much
[01:46] <surfdue> now to my second issue
[01:46] <EBowles> its blank
[01:46] <ccfiel> maximaus: yes...i know..but it is not an csv file..its a text file ..in order to get the row..its has a fix width..
[01:46] <surfdue> i haveinstalled xine
[01:46] <Madpilot> teressa: you shouldn't have to run k3b as root - I don't on my system...
[01:46] <nickrud> EBowles, depends on your card
[01:46] <surfdue> but i cant find how to start it :P
[01:46] <darkheart> EBowles So how much memory does your card have?
[01:46] <EBowles> let me check
[01:47] <teressa> Okay... but what could the reason be why I can't burn on my second CD RW?
[01:47] <EBowles> 64 MB
[01:47] <surfdue> !xine
[01:47] <ubotu> surfdue: I don't know
[01:47] <surfdue> !cookie
[01:48] <ccfiel> can somebody help me.. :(
[01:48] <EasterSunshine> ccfiel: just ask
[01:48] <Madpilot> teressa: no idea - does it work at all? (just in read mode, that is?)
[01:48] <EasterSunshine> ccfiel: your question/problem, that is
[01:48] <maximaus> ccfiel: export to pdf and cut and paste into an editor?
[01:48] <robertj> Do the Colony3 liveCD's have UbuntuExpress?
[01:48] <nickrud> ccfiel, what's your need for the exported data, that may help a bit
[01:48] <ccfiel> how do i export to my openoffice calc an text file? a fix width.. please help me..:(
[01:48] <EasterSunshine> oh i just got here...
[01:49] <cafuego> ccfiel: export as csv
[01:49] <cafuego> ccfiel: Just look at the dialogs.
[01:49] <Seveas> robertj, no
[01:49] <ccfiel> cafuego is not a csv..its a fix width..
[01:49] <EasterSunshine> run the csv thru a script
[01:49] <darkheart> I think he means import, not export
[01:49] <cafuego> ccfiel: It's still in the export dialog.
[01:49] <delltony> question i put a webcam in my usb and ran dmesg and it seems to have detected it my phone is currently plugged in and it is /.dev/ttyACM0 so would i have to mount ./dev/ttyACM0 to access the webcam/digital cam ?
[01:49] <ccfiel> yes..import...sorry..
[01:49] <cafuego> ccfiel: Ah
[01:49] <ccfiel> how do i import.. to my openoffice calc an text file? a fix width.. please help me..:(
[01:49] <ccfiel> sorry..
[01:50] <delltony> i mean ttyACM1
[01:50] <EasterSunshine> can openoffice import csv? cause then you can turn the fixed width into csv with perl
[01:50] <maximaus> ccfiel: #openoffice.org
[01:50] <maximaus> on freenode
[01:50] <robertj> Easter: it can!
[01:50] <teressa> if /dev/hdc is my first drive, what is my second??
[01:51] <kafeine> delltony, doesnt dmesg gives you some hint on where the cam is?
[01:51] <Seveas> perl? awk!
[01:51] <kafeine> teressa, hdd
[01:51] <EasterSunshine> it is /dev/hdd maybe, i'm not sure
[01:51] <cafuego> ccfiel: File -> Open -> Type: text;csv -. Open -> In that dialog, check the 'fixed with' box.
[01:51] <delltony> yeah kinda thats what i'm trying to figure out
[01:51] <teressa> ah ha! Danke mein se!
[01:51] <darkheart> teressa If /dev/hdc is your first drive...anyone's guess which is the second =) You can find out for sure in your /etc/fstab
[01:51] <delltony> usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[01:51] <delltony>  that is all it says
[01:51] <surfdue> howcome i cant play my dvd
[01:51] <teressa> It was hdd :)
[01:51] <delltony> so it hcd?
[01:52] <surfdue> i need some dvd playback css decroder
[01:52] <surfdue> that is illegal
[01:52] <surfdue> :|
[01:52] <ccfiel> cafuego: let me check..
[01:52] <cafuego> There is no checking, i just did it here, it works.
[01:52] <redguy> surfdue: welcome to the 21st century
[01:52] <kafeine> surfdue, apt-get install libdvdcss2
[01:53] <nickrud> surfdue, I think libdvdcss2 is in hoary-extras, you'll need to enable the repository.
[01:53] <kafeine> and that would only work if you've enabled the repos
[01:53] <kafeine> :)
[01:53] <Squall> ellow
[01:53] <EasterSunshine> can someone test my ssh server? can someone ssh into me on port 62626?
[01:53] <kafeine> hello, Squall
[01:53] <delltony> kafeine, any idea what it might be?
[01:53] <Squall> how do i set and config my network card from command line?
[01:53] <surfdue> how
[01:53] <surfdue> nick
[01:53] <delltony> the phone showed ttyACM0 and i got it working
[01:53] <surfdue> what repitory do i add
[01:54] <delltony> but the cam is nt showing anything other than what i posted
[01:54] <Madpilot> surfdue: hoary-extras
[01:54] <kafeine> delltony, none at all. i really do not have any experience with usb devices, especially cams
[01:54] <Squall> EasterSunshine: looks like it works, i telneted ;>
[01:54] <surfdue> just add that to sources.list?
[01:54] <ilba7r> anyone know how to set the default theme for gtk application in icewm to clearlooks?
[01:54] <Squall> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2
[01:54] <kafeine> try the forums for some experience on this one
[01:54] <Madpilot> surfdue: just a sec
[01:54] <delltony> unfortunately for me nor do i
[01:54] <teressa> well I enabled DMA on the second drive, hopefully that will allow me to burn properly to it using K3b
[01:54] <EasterSunshine> squall: that's odd, i got connection timed out when i did it from my friends...
[01:54] <nickrud> surfdue, I don't have that link at hand, wait for Madpilot
[01:54] <teressa> :)
[01:54] <delltony> thaks for your help though yeah ill look in some mans and whatever and see if i can figure it out
[01:54] <ccfiel> cafuego: thanks a lot! it work!
[01:54] <Madpilot> surfdue: see the very bottom of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:54] <cafuego> ccfiel: I know!
[01:55] <delltony> if not ill post to the forums they are very helpful
[01:55] <delltony> thanks
[01:55] <surfdue> ty
[01:55] <darkheart> Yay, time to go home.
[01:55] <ilba7r> !icewm
[01:55] <ubotu> ilba7r: Are you smoking crack?
[01:55] <ilba7r> lol
[01:55] <EasterSunshine> ok who's gonna teach ubotu icewm?
[01:55] <teressa> ewww
[01:55] <EBowles> I'm trying to go through reconfiguration-xorg, but after it asks how many bits of color, it comes out of it saying "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly customised configuration
[01:55] <nickrud> !info icewm
[01:55] <teressa> not me
[01:55] <ubotu> icewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.18-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 451 kB, Installed size: 1224 kB
[01:55] <brent> hello
[01:55] <robertj> is Cupid on breezy any better than cupid on hoary?
[01:55] <EBowles> how do I continue on?
[01:55] <Squall> EasterSunshine: im just planing to try fluxbox as its supposed to be better :>
[01:55] <brent> has anybody ever tried lmms?
[01:56] <Squall> how do i set and config my network card from command line?
[01:56] <nickrud> EBowles, let it overwrite, you have a new card.
[01:56] <ilba7r> nickrud you should though teach ubotu to be more polite
[01:56] <EasterSunshine> squall: is fluxbox on the level of populartiy as kde or gnome? it seems to be a bit under that
[01:56] <EBowles> nickrud, how?
[01:56] <redguy> Squall: man ifconfig; man interfaces
[01:56] <Squall> EasterSunshine: probably not, but its lighter and it can run their programs ;>
[01:57] <mrstarkweather> where can I get an ubuntu compatible media player?
[01:57] <Squall> redguy: thx, thats just what i expected
[01:57] <Squall> :>
[01:57] <mrstarkweather> other than totem
[01:57] <redguy> :] 
[01:57] <nickrud> EBowles, it's a warning after the install, I kinda think it already did.
[01:57] <EBowles> oh
[01:57] <nickrud> EBowles, based on seeing that message elsewhere
[01:57] <Madpilot> mrstarkweather: Totem works great; what problems are you having with it?
[01:57] <haja> Anyone know what this person is using for a cpu/hdd/ weather display?
[01:57] <haja> http://www.vapulus.com/gnome2.6.jpg
[01:57] <mrstarkweather> I'm tryin' to play an MP3 and it's not working
[01:58] <mrstarkweather> I'm new to linux...so I have no idea what I'm doin'
[01:58] <Madpilot> !mp3
[01:58] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:58] <Madpilot> mrstarkweather: see ubotu right above ^^^
[01:58] <EasterSunshine> squall: light windows managers aren't my style...i want the heaviest most customizable thing on the planet, so i stick to kde
[01:58] <mrstarkweather> thanks
[01:58] <nickrud> haja, I'd guess gdesklets
[01:58] <haja> Ok, I'll check that out
[01:58] <haja> thanks
[01:59] <teressa> If I chmod a folder, will it affect the files in the folder?
[01:59] <redguy> !tell mrstarkweather about multimedia
[01:59] <nickrud> teressa, only if you use the -R (recursive) flag
[02:00] <teressa> so like, chmod -r /whatever
[02:00] <reiki> teressa: you can chmod -R and it will change rights recursively into the folder
[02:00] <nickrud> teressa, capital R in this case
[02:00] <Squall> EasterSunshine: sure, its your choise. im trying to run it on a P1 133mhz with 98mb of ram
[02:00] <Madpilot> teressa: "man chmod" for info - and case matters...
[02:01] <surfdue> when i try to play a dvd, totem tells me the soruce is encrypted are you trying to play a dvd without libdvdcss
[02:01] <Squall> ok i got it network up, can someone just tell me where i set the internet gateways?
[02:01] <surfdue> i have libdvdcss2 installed
[02:01] <surfdue> whats wrong?
[02:01] <teressa> aight, thanks boys
[02:02] <reiki> ok... next is email... just use Ximian or should I use Thunderbird? I used Thunderbird on WinXP and thought it was ok.
[02:02] <teressa> use evolution
[02:03] <teressa> it is money honey
[02:03] <Ng> using evolution will mean better integration with the rest of the desktop down the line too :)
[02:03] <reiki> you like that saying huh?
[02:03] <Squall> ok i got network up, can someone just tell me where i set the internet gateways?
[02:03] <Ng> but they can both read the same files, so you can move to thunderbird if evolution annoys you ;)
[02:03] <c0rrupt_> money honey
[02:03] <c0rrupt_> RIFK
[02:03] <surfdue> anyone?
[02:03] <reiki> Squall: should be in properties for the eth0
[02:03] <surfdue> i installed libdvdcss but i still cant play dvds
[02:04] <surfdue> !libdvdcss
[02:04] <ubotu> I don't know, surfdue
[02:04] <surfdue> !dvd
[02:04] <ubotu> I guess dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[02:04] <Elleo> Squall: System -> Administration -> Networking
[02:04] <Elleo> then select the relevant device and click Properties
[02:04] <brent> i'm wondering how to install lmms
[02:04] <lvraab> XMMS is best
[02:04] <Squall> Elleo thx for the info but i need command line help ;>
[02:05] <Elleo> ah,
[02:05] <Elleo> in that case do
[02:05] <Madpilot> surfdue: got totem-xine installed? that might be it
[02:05] <lvraab> xmms-ogle is the DVD player
[02:05] <Elleo> route add default gw x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the ip address for your gateway)
[02:05] <surfdue> yes
[02:05] <Ng> that won't fix the route permanently
[02:05] <Ng> put a "gateway x.x.x.x" line in your /etc/network/interfaces definition for the device
[02:06] <Squall> im stupid
[02:06] <c0rrupt_> mhm
[02:06] <EasterSunshine> ugh...ubuntulinux is bloated...
[02:06] <Squall> why didnt i think of copying /etc/network/interfaces from one machine to the other
[02:06] <robertj> Easter: grow up
[02:07] <teressa> Bloated?
[02:07] <teressa> hah a
[02:07] <teressa> lame
[02:07] <robertj> EasterSunshine, come tip-toe outside the fairy land of perfection sometime
[02:08] <teressa> Amen
[02:08] <reiki> is there spam control in evolution? Or that I can add to it?
[02:08] <robertj> I've got nasty, nasty, nasty code I run at work because it was quick to write and cheap to buy more hardware
[02:08] <Ng> reiki: yes
[02:08] <teressa> The rain is made  of chocolate
[02:08] <robertj> it's easy to maintain but runs like a dog. Size and effeciency are not always at the top of the list
[02:08] <teressa> Do you guys realize, I have never used Linux before in my entire life before last week
[02:08] <Seveas> teressa, hehe
[02:08] <Ng> good choice then :)
[02:08] <Seveas> welcome aboard :)
[02:09] <Madpilot> teressa: welcome to the Light Side... :)
[02:09] <luigino> hello everyone.......
[02:09] <luigino> I'd like to know whats the name of the file in /etc/init.d that makes kubuntu starting the X at boot because I'd like to add an instruction for 915resolution setting? thanks :)
[02:09] <Seveas> robertj, you can make it as light/heavy as you want :)
[02:09] <teressa> Seriouslly, my windows machine could not handle anymore spyware or whatever
[02:09] <teressa> so I took drastic action
[02:09] <mrstarkweather> Once I 've downloaded gstreamer, where is it downloaded to and how the heck do I install it?
[02:09] <teressa> I am pretty proud of myself :)
[02:09] <ompaul> teressa, no you took corrective action :)
[02:09] <ompaul> teressa, and you can be prouder :)
[02:09] <robertj> Here is a thought though: Windows is closer to fixing spyware than Linux is
[02:09] <Madpilot> mrstarkweather: gstreamer is codecs, basically
[02:10] <Seveas> luigino, resolution settings are specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:10] <ompaul> robertj, it needs to be :-)
[02:10] <Madpilot> robertj: that's because only Windows *has* a sypware problem!
[02:10] <Seveas> resolution settings for the virtual consoles (so not X) are specified as kernel boot parameter
[02:10] <Seveas> Madpilot, not true
[02:10] <robertj> Madpilot: and just what do you think would happen if a distro got even a 20% marketshare?
[02:10] <Seveas> do you run adobe acrobat reader?
[02:10] <Ng> mrstarkweather: how did you download it and what exactly was it?
[02:10] <teressa> I do
[02:11] <Seveas> that has spyware inside (admitted, not the agressive one)
[02:11] <teressa> !!!
[02:11] <luigino> Seveas yeah but I wanted to add just a command of a third part little program that changes on da bios the resolution like 915Resolution 38 1280 800
[02:11] <ubotu> it has been said that ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:11] <Madpilot> Seveas: no, I use one of the default pdf readers...
[02:11] <Ng> use evince instead, it's a lovely pdf viewer :)
[02:11] <mrstarkweather> It's a debian file
[02:11] <Seveas> I have a .deb package for acroread without the spyware and with the latest security update
[02:11] <teressa> you do??
[02:11] <robertj> Has anyone noticed that Firefox has popups now? Opensource is not a cure-all
[02:11] <mrstarkweather> and that's all i know
[02:11] <teressa> How would one go about installing that?
[02:12] <Seveas> teressa, how did you install it? binary installer from adobe?
[02:12] <Ng> mrstarkweather: gstreamer is mostly already installed in Hoary, all you need to do to install other parts is fire up Synaptic and search for gstreamer, you don't need to download deb files :)
[02:12] <teressa> no... from the (I know obsolete) Ubuntu guide
[02:12] <Seveas> eeek
[02:12] <teressa> !!??
[02:12] <ubotu> I guess ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:12] <TheGnome> hell0
[02:12] <Seveas> ubuntuguide.org is crappy
[02:12] <teressa> yea I know...
[02:13] <teressa> but strangely enougbh....
[02:13] <surfdue> my dvd is really choppy
[02:13] <teressa> sometimes it is more acurate than the wiki
[02:13] <HrdwrBoB> !dma
[02:13] <mrstarkweather> oh, alright, thanks alot man
[02:13] <TheGnome> surfdue: yeah there is a fix for that...........but i dont know it
[02:13] <Seveas> teressa, dpkg -P acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins
[02:13] <Madpilot> teressa: then please, please edit the wiki to be more accurate!
[02:13] <robertj> UbuntuGuide is pretty good in my experience
[02:13] <HrdwrBoB> teressa: let me know where the wiki isn't as good and tell me
[02:13] <HrdwrBoB> I'll fuck it
[02:13] <teressa> surfdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%29
[02:13] <popey> surfdue: i had that, it was because my driive wasn't DMA enabled
[02:13] <HrdwrBoB> surfdue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:14] <funkyHat> is there any kind of central configuration program for ubuntu? for choosing drivers etc?
[02:14] <teressa> ha ha
[02:14] <popey> :)
[02:14] <teressa> I should edit it myself
[02:14] <Seveas> funkyHat, gnome-control-center
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> er fix it
[02:14] <teressa> you know though...
[02:14] <Seveas> teressa, did you do that command already?
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> damn you frued
[02:14] <teressa> I posted on here that it was wrong
[02:14] <teressa> no hold on a sec
[02:14] <gimbal> get this. sourceforge.net is mentioned in a page at microsoft.com, and so is Apache, the *nix-system replacement for IIS: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=555092
[02:14] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: right... that was a great typo...
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot:  :/
[02:15] <teressa> ok now I ran tit
[02:15] <Seveas> ok, no errors?
[02:15] <teressa> none
[02:15] <Seveas> nice
[02:15] <teressa> ??
[02:15] <Seveas> wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[02:15] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[02:16] <teressa> in that order?
[02:16] <Seveas> yup
[02:16] <teressa> ok the first one is running
[02:16] <Seveas> that'll take some time, it's not a small download
[02:16] <Seveas> oh CRAP
[02:16] <teressa> no it isnt
[02:16] <Seveas> cancel the download
[02:16] <reiki> I never thought to see if I have an adobe reader on here
[02:16] <reiki> hmmmm
[02:16] <teressa> uh oh
[02:16] <teressa> how?
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> reiki: you generally don't want it
[02:16] <Seveas> teressa, the package contains a bug
[02:16] <teressa> close the terminal??
[02:16] <Seveas> hit <ctrl>C
[02:16] <HrdwrBoB> evince > adobe acrobat
[02:17] <Squall> ok guys another problem: /etc/resolv.conf doesnt exist, i got dns`s added to /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesnt seem to work. what am i missing?
[02:17] <Seveas> I'm fixing the package now
[02:17] <teressa> ok...
[02:17] <teressa> Let me knwo
[02:17] <TheGnome> how can i tell where my dvdrom is?
[02:17] <surfdue> wow
[02:17] <surfdue> u guys are really experts
[02:17] <TheGnome> TheGnome: its not hdc
[02:17] <teressa> sarcasm?
[02:17] <surfdue> thank you popey and HrdwrBoB
[02:17] <surfdue> :)
[02:17] <surfdue> now one more case
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> TheGnome: odds are it's /dev/hdd or hdc
[02:18] <surfdue> how do i get skype and my dvd towork
[02:18] <surfdue> :P
[02:18] <reiki> HrdwrBoB:  is evince easy to integrate with FireFox?
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> ubotu: tell surfdue about skype
[02:18] <TheGnome> nope its neither
[02:18] <surfdue> um
[02:18] <surfdue> i know its posible
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> TheGnome: dmesg| grep ROM
[02:18] <surfdue> i dont use edu
[02:18] <teressa> surfdude: one sec...
[02:18] <surfdue> esd*
[02:18] <surfdue> i use alsa?
[02:18] <surfdue> it should work
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> reiki: integrate ? I don't know, but you can easily chagne the program it launches
[02:19] <TheGnome> hda
[02:19] <teressa> surfdude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[02:19] <TheGnome> im stupid
[02:20] <Squall> ok guys another problem: /etc/resolv.conf doesnt exist, i got dns`s added to /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesnt seem to work. what am i missing?
[02:20] <TheGnome> cuz my hard disk is sda
[02:20] <Seveas> teressa, the package is fixed now
[02:20] <Seveas> sorry for that
[02:20] <Seveas> please remove what is already downloaded
[02:21] <Seveas> and then redo the last 2 commands
[02:21] <KoreLabs> having a config problem with an app after installing gcc, anyone got a spare minute?
[02:21] <ompaul> ! skype is also deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[02:21] <ubotu> okay, ompaul
[02:21] <surfdue> can someone help me
[02:22] <teressa> ok so try again seavas?
[02:22] <surfdue> i cant get it to work
[02:22] <surfdue> i need skype and my dvd player to work
[02:22] <surfdue> posiblwe?
[02:22] <gnuty> hello all, Ubuntu is the best
[02:22] <EasterSunshine> hello gnuty, i agree
[02:22] <Seveas> ubotu, acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[02:22] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:23] <teressa> Seveas: will this also install a menu item for it?
[02:23] <Seveas> teressa, yes
[02:24] <surfdue> anyone?
[02:24] <surfdue> !acroread
[02:24] <ubotu> hmm... acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[02:24] <teressa> money
[02:24] <EasterSunshine> ugh i wrote a script that actually works and i became all depressed cause of it
[02:24] <surfdue> ubotu, surfdue is a surfer
[02:24] <ubotu> surfdue: okay
[02:24] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: oh nos
[02:24] <surfdue> !surfdue
[02:24] <ubotu> from memory, surfdue is a surfer
[02:24] <surfdue> :)
[02:24] <surfdue> yay
[02:25] <Seveas> !bot abuse
[02:25] <ubotu> [bot abuse]  a bannable offense
[02:25] <Seveas> ^-- surfdue
[02:25] <Seveas> !names
[02:25] <ubotu> names are something you should not add in me
[02:25] <lain2> hi, can anyone help me get multiverse repository enabled?  i've been working at this thing using the wiki as a guide, and i just can't get mplayer to show up in synaptic.
[02:25] <gimbal> mmm bananable fences
[02:25] <teressa> 60%
[02:26] <teressa> I am so amped
[02:26] <Seveas> lain2, put your sources.list on the pastebin please
[02:26] <lain2> ok.  a minute.
[02:26] <satafterh> anyone help with audio and video sync
[02:26] <mrstarkweather> I marked and installed all the gstreamer stuff that ubuntu came with, but I have no idea how to run and open it and make it play an mp3
[02:26] <HrdwrBoB> satafterh: your problem is esd
[02:26] <Seveas> teressa, please tell me when the download is done, the server needs to be rebooted ;)
[02:26] <Dekkard> btw.. you techie guys are great..
[02:26] <flugh> will have internet access at work within the month. then i can doff fedora and put ubuntu on the server. all will be well again :)
[02:26] <teressa> ok 75%
[02:26] <teressa> :)
[02:27] <satafterh> esd??
[02:27] <flugh> (not that y'all care, but that's my good news for the day :)
[02:27] <teressa> Will I need that server to run the second command?
[02:27] <surfdue> :)
[02:27] <surfdue> im a bad boy..
[02:27] <Seveas> teressa, no :)
[02:27] <surfdue> ubotu, im very sorry!
[02:27] <ubotu> surfdue: I haven't a clue
[02:27] <teressa> ok
[02:27] <surfdue> omg?
[02:27] <teressa> excellent
[02:27] <surfdue> ..
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> ubotu: esd?
[02:27] <ubotu> esd is, like, totally, Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[02:27] <Dreamer3> how can i check the fragmentation of a linux parition?
[02:28] <Seveas> there is none
[02:28] <lain2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1345
[02:28] <Dreamer3> Seveas: sure there is :) it's just not as bad as windows
[02:28] <gimbal> Dreamer3: it's generally not of any concern
[02:28] <satafterh> ubotu: how do i fix?? I am very new to linux
[02:28] <ubotu> satafterh: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:28] <Dreamer3> my linux system is slower and slower... i swear when i first installed it it was fast... this is what i expect of windows, not linux
[02:28] <teressa> ok seveas... it is done
[02:28] <surfdue> !how do i run more then one sound app
[02:28] <ubotu> surfdue: I give up, what is it?
[02:28] <teressa> thank you
[02:28] <mrstarkweather> once gstream has been installed does anyone know how to get it to run and play mp3s?
[02:28] <surfdue> does anyone know
[02:28] <Seveas> !sound
[02:28] <ubotu> I guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[02:28] <Seveas> ^--
[02:28] <HrdwrBoB> satafterh: run 'killall esd'
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> then play your movie
[02:29] <teressa> oh shit
[02:29] <teressa> errors were encountered :(
[02:29] <flugh> potty mouth
[02:29] <teressa> sorry
[02:29] <flugh> :)
[02:29] <Dreamer3> i'm thinking on reinstalling ubuntu, but not sure what that will prove
[02:29] <Dreamer3> i don't want to reinstall linux every 6 months
[02:29] <lain2> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1345
[02:29] <satafterh> do i have to run that every time i play a movie??
[02:29] <Esteves> hy there
[02:29] <teressa> Seveas: that package may still have bugs
[02:30] <Esteves> how can I autostart a program when fluxbox is being started?
[02:30] <ompaul> Dreamer3, you don't fix that - you never fix that - it is the job of the operating system to look after the file system and manage its filesystem 'issues'
[02:30] <teressa> Should I post the errors in the pastebin?
[02:30] <DonL> Dreamer3, I'm thinking another problem. I've never defragged, not that I would know how to do it
[02:30] <HrdwrBoB> satafterh: once per login
[02:30] <Seveas> lain2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1347
[02:30] <Dreamer3> ompaul: well, my issues is things feel slower and slower
[02:30] <TheGnome> Esteves, make a foler in .fluxbox called Autostart
[02:30] <Squall> Esteves: try #fluxbox ;>
[02:30] <satafterh> ok thanks bob
[02:30] <Dreamer3> ompaul: the only reason i switched from debian is ubuntu was faster
[02:30] <TheGnome> Esteves, then link apps to the folder
[02:30] <Seveas> teressa, please do
[02:30] <ompaul> Dreamer3, that may be that you need to close mozilla some times and run memtest :)
[02:31] <jugarnatha> Good evening.
[02:31] <Dreamer3> ompaul: nothing is wrong with the memory :)
[02:31] <jugarnatha> I'm having problems with flash.
[02:31] <Dreamer3> ompaul: or i'd have worse problems
[02:31] <Dreamer3> ompaul: though why does everyone say memtest?
[02:31] <Dreamer3> i'm curious
[02:31] <ompaul> Dreamer3, glad you did not claim mozilla was not a memory hogger
[02:31] <jugarnatha> Macromedia flash player won't install, and I'm pretty sure there's something that comes with an ubuntu install
[02:31] <Esteves> TheGnome: autostart or Autostart?
[02:31] <jugarnatha> but I'm not sure how to unpack it or where to look for the appropriate ap
[02:31] <Dreamer3> ok, what's the next version of ubuntu
[02:32] <Dreamer3> how close is it?
[02:32] <satafterh> Macromedia flash player?? got it working with fire fox
[02:32] <HrdwrBoB> ubotu: tell jugarnatha about repositories
[02:32] <TheGnome> Esteves, i think Autostart ........ but im not 100%
[02:32] <satafterh> thanks for the help people
[02:32] <satafterh> later
[02:32] <Esteves> ok
[02:32] <Squall> Esteves: or you could check the FAQ on the site, i think they have that in it....
[02:33] <vladuz976> how come there is no /etc/X11/Sessions in ubuntu?
[02:33] <rathel> how do I run a script as root on startup?
[02:33] <ompaul> Dreamer3, because it is something that does go bad 'tune in tonight after the 9pm news for when good ram goes bad' and should be tested against, if it is not that then there may be some desktop item that is eating the memory - run free and top to see what the main hoggers are when it feels sluggish
[02:33] <TheGnome> now dvd's play great!
[02:33] <TheGnome> now how can i make a copy?
[02:33] <MAPD> hi
[02:33] <Seveas> rathel, add it to /etc/init.d/ and link it from /etc/rcS.d/
[02:33] <Dreamer3> ompaul: all the memory gradually leaks over time
[02:34] <Dreamer3> ompaul: i can close every app and leave X and still 400mb in use (no, i know what cache and buffers are)
[02:34] <rathel> okay, thanks
[02:34] <MAPD> when i installed ubuntu it said i didnt have all my language support on the cd and it said to go to the net but i cancelled because my download limits can i update it now?
[02:34] <Dreamer3> ompaul: but there seems to be no good "solution"
[02:34] <lain2> Seveas, thanks for the help.  it's working now.  i'll look at the differences to see what i was doing wrong, thanks
[02:34] <ompaul> Dreamer3, init 1 init 2 ?
[02:34] <Dreamer3> ompaul: single user mode... no difference... memory seems to be taken but never freed
[02:35] <cafuego> Dreamer3: it's probably being cached. This is normal.
[02:35] <Seveas> MAPD, yes, install the package language-support-YOUR_LANGUAGE_CODE
[02:35] <Dreamer3> ompaul: shouldn't the kernel not allow that to happen?
[02:35] <MAPD> Seveas one question
[02:35] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i'm familiar with linux memory usage, what i have is NOT normal
[02:35] <Seveas> (like language-support-es for spanish)
[02:35] <ompaul> Dreamer3, see comment about cached which is why I pointed at top
[02:35] <MAPD> i need to change
[02:35] <Dreamer3> ompaul: it's not cached
[02:35] <MAPD> my apt-get and synaptics mirrors
[02:35] <Dreamer3> ompaul: it's in use
[02:35] <MAPD> to portuguese ones
[02:35] <MAPD> how?
[02:35] <Dreamer3> ompaul: but i can kill everything running
[02:35] <MAPD> and to install the package i use apt-get?
[02:35] <Dreamer3> ompaul: i know how Linux works
[02:35] <Dreamer3> ompaul: i've been using it for years
[02:36] <Dreamer3> ompaul: i'm just at a loss how to deal with this terrible memory leak
[02:36] <Seveas> MAPD, by editing /etc/apt/sources.list -- a portuguese mirror can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:36] <Dreamer3> ompaul: i would have though the OS would prevent apps from doing such evil things, so would tha tmean it's the kernel?
[02:36] <TheGnome> how do i clear history in totem?
[02:36] <Seveas> MAPD, yes you use apt-get to install it
[02:36] <cafuego> Dreamer3: IF there is as terrible memory leak (in the kernel???) you should mail lkml.
[02:36] <MAPD> ok thx
[02:36] <teressa> seveas: sorry, I will post the errors now
[02:36] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i dunno where it is
[02:36] <Seveas> MAPD and sudo dpkg-reconfigure to change language
[02:36] <Seveas> teressa, thank you very much
[02:36] <cafuego> Dreamer3: if the apps are not running, it's the kernel.
[02:37] <cafuego> Dreamer3: The kernel is in charge of reaping memory from apps that exit.
[02:37] <ompaul> Dreamer3, using top and lsof and free may helpyou find something when it is next sluggish go for those and see what info you can dig up
[02:37] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i have to reboot every 30-40 days (with warty) because all memory would gradually get used and then go into swap... with hoary it's like every 2-3 days... but i switched back to warty kernel, no change
[02:37] <cafuego> Dreamer3: Which kernel?
[02:37] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell me about ssh
[02:37] <Dreamer3> cafuego: the latest warty kernel before hoary... now running the latest hoary kernel
[02:37] <teressa> crap, I posted it as anonomys
[02:37] <MAPD> Seveas how to configure the apt-get sources?
[02:37] <TheGnome> how do i clear history in totem?
[02:38] <Seveas> MAPD, by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:38] <MAPD> ok
[02:38] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i can try lsof next time, but i've used top and free... nothing jumps out, just all the memory is GONE
[02:38] <fz> do you guys know how to use qemu ?
[02:38] <MAPD> what do i8 write?
[02:38] <MAPD> what do i write?
[02:38] <MAPD> #
[02:38] <MAPD> ![Portugal]  [WWW]  ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/
[02:38] <MAPD> #
[02:38] <MAPD> ![Portugal]  [WWW]  http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/
[02:38] <ubotu> MAPD: No idea
[02:38] <ubotu> MAPD: I give up, what is it?
[02:38] <teressa> seveas: what do ya think?
[02:38] <Seveas> MAPD, do NOT paste in here
[02:38] <Seveas> teressa, I'm looking at it...
[02:38] <Dreamer3> cafuego: any ideas?  should i try building my own kernel?
[02:38] <MAPD> sorry
[02:38] <MAPD> i forgot
[02:38] <MAPD> :P
[02:39] <MAPD> so sorry
[02:39] <MAPD> :\
[02:39] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i mean is it possible for a user app to take memory and die and the kernel NOT reclaim it?
[02:39] <cafuego> Dreamer3: Run top, sort the columns by ram use.. anything there?
[02:39] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i guess i wonder if this is a kernel or app issue
[02:39] <vladuz976> anybody using e17 here?
[02:39] <muffin_> hi
[02:39] <Dreamer3> cafuego: i just rebooted, but no, there will be nothing there... just a few system processes... i can go to single user mode and still have 400mb in use
[02:40] <cafuego> Dreamer3: it's possible, but only if the kernel has a rather glaring bug in it. This is possible, of course, but I'd have expected MORE users to have the problem.
[02:40] <muffin_> i've insalled quake2 in synaptic, how do i execute it now??
[02:40] <MAPD> Seveas http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1349
[02:40] <Dreamer3> cafuego: so, apps can do that? take memory and die and never give back?
[02:40] <Doonz> is there a point to installing a antivirus program on linux?
[02:40] <Dreamer3> cafuego: well, this is an IBM Thinkpad T22, not the most used piece of hardware
[02:40] <DonL> Doonz, only if your linux box is a server for windows computers
[02:41] <cafuego> Dreamer3: The apps have NO control about whether or not the give it back.
[02:41] <Seveas> teressa, something must have gone wrong at the download
[02:41] <cafuego> Dreamer3: The kernel is in charge at all times.
[02:41] <MAPD> can you check the site Seveas pls?
[02:41] <teressa> maybe because the first one was cancelled?
[02:41] <MAPD> :p
[02:41] <Doonz> ok
[02:41] <Seveas> teressa, I think so
[02:41] <Doonz> kool cause all my boxes are ubuntu
[02:41] <teressa> Should I just try it again??
[02:41] <Seveas> and the server is off now (it's in my bedroom and I'm going to sleep in a minute)
[02:42] <teressa> ...
[02:42] <teressa> poop
[02:42] <Seveas> You can try again in about 8 to 10 hours, sorry for the delay :(
[02:42] <Dreamer3> cafuego: are you sure?  what you're saying is if the apps are REALLY closed, and there is still no free memory it is a kernel issue, right?
[02:42] <teressa> There is no where else to get it?
[02:42] <cafuego> pff, sleeping until 1pm eh
[02:42] <cafuego> Dreamer3: Indeed.
[02:43] <muffin_> i've insalled an app (quake2) in synaptic, how do i execute it now?? i can only do this from the applications menuebar ^^
[02:43] <Seveas> teressa, no, no one else toook the effort to make it available
[02:43] <Dreamer3> cafuego: so build my own kernel with known good options and see how it plays out?
[02:43] <Seveas> and I really have to go now
[02:43] <teressa> ok get to beddy bye
[02:43] <cafuego> Dreamer3: You can certainly give it a try, yes.
[02:43] <Dreamer3> brb
[02:43] <MAPD> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1349
[02:43] <cafuego> Dreamer3: Are you using any non-GPL kernel modules?
[02:43] <MAPD> help pls
[02:44] <DonL> muffin, I'd like to know how to do it as well.  Didn't work for me
[02:44] <EasterSunshine> muffin_: that's pretty good...i don't even see it in my applications menu
[02:44] <Squall> MAPD what do you want to do with that?
[02:44] <MAPD> Squall
[02:44] <MAPD> i wanted to change apt-get sources
[02:44] <nickrud>  muffin_ if you must run stuff from the menubar, you can get access to more apps by installing menu-xdg
[02:44] <MAPD> so i could do update using a Portuguese mirror
[02:45] <EasterSunshine> muffin_: i did quake2 on the command line, i got an error, so try quake2 on the command line, see what you get
[02:45] <Squall> MAPD: so just change from something like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/
[02:45] <Squall> ?
[02:45] <MAPD> oki
[02:45] <MAPD> what about the other?
[02:45] <Dreamer3> ok, back in X
[02:45] <MAPD> theres two sites?
[02:45] <teressa> Seveas: are you still on??
[02:45] <EasterSunshine> LoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed: No such file or directory <--that's what i got. anyone can help?
[02:46] <teressa> I think I got what is wrong
[02:46] <teressa> I got it installed now :)
[02:46] <Dreamer3> anyone run ck patchset?
[02:46] <MAPD> what about security one?
[02:46] <MAPD> must really be ubuntu's one?
[02:46] <dabar> there can be only one.
[02:46] <teressa> YES!
[02:46] <teressa> Is Seveas still on??
[02:47] <Squall> MAPD dont know about the other
[02:47] <MAPD> nope
[02:47] <muffin_> EasterSunshine: when i run it in terminal, it says "couldn't exec default.cfg"
[02:47] <Squall> experiment
[02:47] <teressa> damn
[02:47] <teressa> well it worked
[02:47] <teressa> :)
[02:47] <dabar> excellent.
[02:47] <Xira> Okay guys, this is sort of an Ubuntu Live CD Question. I have a nuked window install - that means I have to install windows which will override GRUB when I reinstall to that partition. So, how would I use the ubuntu livecd to restore grub and have it redetect my partitions?
[02:47] <teressa> someone thank him next time he is on :) If I dont see him that is...
[02:47] <teressa> night boys!!
[02:48] <EasterSunshine> muffin_: right under that, it should say that it did exec it
[02:48] <Madpilot> Xira: check the wiki for recovering Ubuntu info
[02:48] <nickrud> Xira, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:48] <Xira> thx
[02:48] <muffin_> the last thing is couldn't exec default.cfg
[02:48] <muffin_> execing config.cfg
[02:48] <muffin_> Console initialized.
[02:48] <muffin_> ------- sound initialization -------
[02:48] <muffin_> loading oss sound output driver, ok
[02:48] <shawnh> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and grub won't boot windows xp now, even though it is in the list to do so
[02:48] <muffin_> sorry
[02:48] <MAPD> gtg
[02:48] <MAPD> byebye thx
[02:49] <nickrud> muffin_, you may need to do killall esd, then try quake again
[02:49] <malverian_> Hey guys, is there a package listing for ubuntu similar to the debian package list?
[02:49] <nickrud> packages.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <shawnh> i don't recall doing anything stupid, and grub worked properly when it was installed last time i tried fedora
[02:49] <malverian_> nickrud: Thank you much
[02:49] <muffin_> nickrud: what is esd?
[02:49] <muffin_> !esd
[02:49] <ubotu> I heard esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[02:50] <nickrud> muffin_, it's a sound daemon, it sits between apps and alsa
[02:50] <dabar> its not noise...:)
[02:50] <nickrud> muffin_, not all apps can use esd] 
[02:50] <Dreamer3> ok
[02:50] <Dreamer3> is there anything special when replacing the ubuntu kernel witha  custom build?
[02:50] <Dreamer3> i know ubuntu has initrd stuff...
[02:51] <cafuego> Dreamer3: Are you using any non-GPL kernel modules?
[02:51] <dabar> Yes, something very special!
[02:51] <Dreamer3> cafuego: um... modem drive once in a while, but i could recompile that against the new kernel, otherwise, NO
[02:51] <sorush20> anyone here been able to hear sound from flash player in mozilla firefox
[02:51] <gomer> i can't get sound from mplayer. It can can open/initialize sound device. Any suggestions?
[02:51] <gomer> ca't open
[02:51] <kelsey> can anyone tell me if the hard disks are turned off when Ubuntu power managment is activated?
[02:51] <gomer> can't open
[02:52] <nickrud> gomer, try mplayer -ao esd <file>
[02:52] <gomer> ok i will ..
[02:52] <shawnh> can anyone tell me what may have went wrong and how to get windows working with grub?
[02:52] <dabar> shawnh: windows was there first?
[02:52] <muffin_> nickrud, thx, it "did" something
[02:52] <muffin_> ------- Loading ref_softx.so -------
[02:52] <muffin_> LoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed: No such file or directory
[02:52] <muffin_> SNDDMA_Shutdown
[02:52] <muffin_> recursive shutdown
[02:52] <muffin_> Error: Couldn't fall back to software refresh!
[02:53] <muffin_> nickrud, but i have an new error ^
[02:53] <nickrud> muffin_, then, that's over my head, sorry.
[02:53] <darkheart> muffin_ Don't paste in the channel
[02:53] <muffin_> thx anyway
[02:53] <shawnh> dabar, yes it was
[02:53] <Dreamer3> cafuego: is it going to be simply if i don't use any non-GPL drivers?
[02:53] <gomer> same message ...;(
[02:53] <muffin_> sorry
[02:53] <darkheart> muffin_ What's your trouble?
[02:53] <dabar> shawnh: what about, is it the first partition that win is installed on?
[02:53] <muffin_> darkheart, i can't run quake2
[02:54] <shawnh> xp home fat32 on a 20gb part, ubuntu auto set up remaining 10gb for swap/root
[02:54] <MagiPink> What's a good MU* client for Ubuntu? ^^ :3
[02:54] <shawnh> dabar, xp was first on 1st part
[02:54] <darkheart> muffin_ Ahh..I thought I recognized that error message. You just installed the packages in the ubuntu repository?
[02:54] <nickrud> gomer, try typing lsof /dev/dsp, in a terminal, what does that say?
[02:54] <muffin_> darkheart, i insalled it in synaptic from multiverse
[02:55] <gomer>  lsof /dev/dsp
[02:55] <gomer> COMMAND  PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[02:55] <gomer> esd     7714 stokes    5w   CHR   14,3      7852 /dev/dsp
[02:55] <darkheart> muffin_ I tried it also, I never got around to making it work, but what I think is that you need to load the data from the q2 disc somewhere.
[02:56] <dabar> shawnh: care to paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst or similar named file?
[02:56] <darkheart> muffin_ Google turns up this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22920.html Might help you.
[02:56] <shawnh> dabar, sure to here or the pastebin?
[02:56] <nickrud> hm, that's how I run mplayer, and with esd claiming /dev/dsp, it works.
[02:56] <muffin_> darkheart, hm, maybe you need some commercial windows files... but quake2-data package should be also right...
[02:57] <gomer> the other sound functions I have tested work fine also.  Any settings for mplayer in preferences?
[02:57] <muffin_> darkheart, thx
[02:57] <darkheart> muffin_ You won't need any windows files, but I'm not sure what quake2-data actually has...seems a bit small.
[02:57] <nickrud> gomer, yeah, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf has some config stuff
[02:58] <gomer> i'm using gmplayer..the preferences I'm referring to are in there ...
[02:58] <DonL> darkheart, I think that file looks small too, but it reads like it should work. Not for me however
[02:58] <surfdue> how do i disable esd
[02:58] <surfdue> and arts
[02:58] <surfdue> and replace with alsa
[02:58] <gomer> i don't have /etc/mplayer
[03:00] <nickrud> gomer, how can you not if you have [g] mplayer?
[03:00] <dabar> shawnh: ubotu told you.
[03:00] <darkheart> DonL Yeah...You have same trouble trying to start q2 also?
[03:00] <ghostless> I'm having trouble with Flash programs...They don't show text...Anyone have any ideas?
[03:00] <DonL> darkheart, Yes. Finally gave up
[03:00] <gomer> i have a .mplayer in my home dir ...
[03:01] <shawnh> dabar, ok i just posted to the pastebin
[03:01] <dabar> the .nl one?
[03:01] <Madpilot> ghostless: install the MS core fonts from the repos, that should fix Flash...
[03:01] <nickrud> gomer, if you truly do not have /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, then do sudo aptitude reinstall mplayer
[03:01] <shawnh> dabar, yes
[03:02] <dabar> ok, sec
[03:02] <gomer> I installed mplayer from source and did a make install
[03:02] <nickrud> ah,
[03:02] <ghostless> Madpilot, Ok thank you =D
[03:02] <gomer> i didn't see anything about configuring /etc/mplayer/*
[03:03] <DonL> gomer, I always have more luck with the packages built for Ubuntu
[03:03] <dabar> shawnh: wanna check whether the windows partition is bootable?
[03:03] <dabar> dont screw uop in there, tho, its sensitive
[03:03] <dabar> sudo cfdisk
[03:03] <gomer> maybe I'll delete what I what and reinstall?
[03:03] <EasterSunshine> hey can someone really quickly telnet to x1.or.tp on port 62626 and tell me what happens? thx in advance
[03:03] <shawnh> ok 2 seconds
[03:03] <Madpilot> ghostless: it's the only real reason to install those fonts, otherwise they're flippin' useless...
[03:03] <dabar> kk
[03:03] <ghostless> Madpilot, Haha, Ok... Good advice
[03:03] <nickrud> gomer, I cannot help with a compile of mplayer, I last did that around 3 years ago.
[03:04] <shawnh> dabar, yes its bootable
[03:04] <gomer> nickrud,donL, I'll try a Ubuntu install. I'll keep the codecs ..
[03:04] <nickrud> gomer, good choice :) be sure to get the one that matches your cpu
[03:05] <gomer> thanks guys .....bye
[03:05] <dabar> ok, any other ones bootable?
[03:05] <titaniululz> where can i put something so that it's added to path both when i login remotely with ssh and when i open a terminal on the machine locally? ie in .bash_profile adding something to PATH= only sets that when i connect in ssh. it doesnt set the path when i open terminal at the machine
[03:05] <DonL> must go for now. Bye
[03:06] <shawnh> dabar, no just the 1st part
[03:06] <gomer> donL, nickrud, you still there
[03:06] <knowledge> is there a way that anyone can tell me what http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1352 is...or what I could do about it?
[03:06] <nickrud> titaniululz, .bashrc is read when you log into a terminal locally; some people source .bash_profile from .bashrc
[03:06] <dabar> shawnh: so that is also good...
[03:06] <nickrud> hey gomer
[03:06] <titaniululz> nickrud, thanks, but what do you mean 'source' it from bashrc
[03:07] <dabar> shawnh: also it is listed as priamry?
[03:07] <nickrud> titaniululz, like add a line to .bashrc that says, source ~/.bash_profile
[03:07] <gomer> what was the command string for retrieving the ubuntu mplayer?
[03:07] <MagiPink> I feel slightly offended on behalf of my gnome desktop. Someone said it was ugly. x( Heh
[03:07] <shawnh> dabar, yes
[03:07] <nickrud> gomer, it would be better to look for it in synaptic; there are several versions available, depending on your processor.
[03:07] <dabar> ya, thats all good.
[03:08] <gomer> synaptic.com?
[03:08] <dabar> MagiPink: its a taste matter, and I find a lot of people have no taste...who cares...
[03:08] <nickrud> gomer, no, System->Administration->Synaptic :)
[03:08] <nickrud> top menu bar
[03:08] <gomer> ohhhh KKK thanks
[03:08] <surfdue> !ati
[03:08] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:09] <sybariten> hiy'all
[03:09] <titaniululz> also is there any way to change the things you see when you log in remotely to ubuntu, ie the stuff about a disclaimer and such?
[03:09] <yankee> Hi, Im having problems loading ubuntu live on my laptop, the display doesn't show... i just hear the start sound is there something i need to type in the boot command ot change this? i tried vga=771 but that didnt work either..
[03:09] <MagiPink> Hehe... I suppose so. :3
[03:09] <Xira> Okay guys, I force restarted while I was booting into Ubuntu, now grub says grub error 7
[03:09] <gomer> nickrud, when I search in synaptic, it dones't find mplayer ????
[03:10] <Xira> What do i do? :(
[03:10] <darkheart> muffin_ You do have to install the game data...Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data'
[03:10] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone
[03:10] <dabar> yo
[03:10] <sybariten> I've managed, to my own surprise, to make samba work (more or less) rather quickly ....  that is, to share a dir from a ubuntu machine to an XP machine. One thing lasts though: write access. I cant write to the share ...  anything i could check ?
[03:10] <nickrud> gomer, then  you need to fix your sources.list, a sec while I find a link
[03:10] <Xira> Anyone?
[03:11] <nickrud> gomer, you need to replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:11] <kelsey> Xira: did should try re-starting again?
[03:11] <Xira> yes
[03:11] <surfdue> im using cedega and it wont reconize my ati drivers
[03:11] <shawnh> dabar, i know i can do the fixmbr trick with the windows cd, but i thought there might be a way out without hosing up grub too
[03:11] <Xira> grub stage 1.5.. | Error 17
[03:11] <Xira> is what it says
[03:11] <kelsey> does it even go to the boot menu?
[03:12] <nickrud> !components
[03:12] <Xira> no
[03:12] <ubotu> I heard components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[03:12] <gomer> mickrud, do I add that or change an existing one?
[03:12] <thechitowncubs> you said error 7 before
[03:12] <yankee> does anyone know why my display doesn't work on my laptop when try to run ubuntu live?
[03:12] <Xira> thats my problem
[03:12] <Xira> 17*
[03:12] <kelsey> when did you install your ubuntu system?
[03:12] <thechitowncubs> xira: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-51535.html
[03:12] <Xira> uh
[03:12] <Xira> long
[03:12] <nickrud> gomer, that is a complete replacement. Take a look at the link ubotu gave for components for a little explanation.
[03:12] <thechitowncubs> did you do any partition editing?
[03:13] <nickrud> gomer, mplayer is in multiverse
[03:13] <Xira> I don't understand how a hard restart would do this
[03:13] <Xira> sigh
[03:13] <Xira> that thread doesn't help much
[03:13] <darkheart> Xira Hard restart while booting isn't a good idea.
[03:14] <kelsey> you could reinstall....
[03:14] <gomer> nickrud, sorry, I don't follow ?? multiverse?
[03:14] <Xira> i need to access my windows partition
[03:14] <darkheart> Xira http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml look for 'error 17'
[03:14] <Xira> yep
[03:14] <Xira> that doesnt help me
[03:14] <darkheart> Xira Why not?
[03:14] <kelsey> have you considered a rescue CD>
[03:14] <thechitowncubs> xira: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[03:15] <kelsey> i mean ?
[03:15] <knowledge> anyone know what my error is about?
[03:15] <nickrud> gomer, brb, phone
[03:15] <pmazer> Ughh.. I'm about freaking out... moving to college tomorrow
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> xira: that gentoo doc should shed some light on your issue
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> pmazer: what college?
[03:16] <gomer> nickrud, you want to call me?
[03:16] <terminal|giga> Anyone dualboot win2k and ubuntu? if so, I've a question for you.
[03:16] <mattyJ> there is no graphical installer in colony3? does that mean breezy wont have one?
[03:16] <thechitowncubs> terminal|giga, yes, i do
[03:17] <delltony> anyone here mind helping me get a digital camera working with ubuntu when i plug the usb in dmesg says new usb device detected but i don't kknow what to do after that as in how to access the cameras dir
[03:17] <terminal|giga> thechitowncubs, can I message you?
[03:17] <nickrud> gomer, lol,
[03:17] <thechitowncubs> terminal|giga, its better to be discussed in the channel
[03:17] <timtux> Somone who have tried ubuntu breezy?
[03:17] <nickrud> gomer, did you take a look at that component link yet?
[03:17] <dabar> delltony: ls /media/usbdisk
[03:17] <terminal|giga> ok
[03:18] <dabar> mattyJ: where did you get this?
[03:18] <gmoore> anyone know if it's possible to change the remote ssh login messages?
[03:18] <gomer> nickrud, I'm don't understand the lol and brb.  Yes I do not x-chat very much ..
[03:18] <dguitar> u r
[03:18] <mattyJ> dabar: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57760
[03:18] <terminal|giga> thechitowncubs, you installed windows first right? then ubuntu, and let the installer find the other os and such. Did you partition the partition for ubuntu manually? if so did you make a /boot active or just one big / and a swap?
[03:19] <nickrud> gomer, lol, laughing out loud, and brb, be right back. I've got 3 months under my belt, I'm a proww :)
[03:19] <thechitowncubs> gmoore, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40688
[03:19] <gomer> nickrud, I can tell ;)
[03:19] <delltony> ok
[03:19] <delltony> let me try that thanks
[03:19] <robotgeek> gmoore: motd :)
[03:19] <sybariten> delltony: or mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/thenameofyourmountingdir
[03:19] <mattyJ> dabar: i thought some progress was made to the graphical installer and that it would be in, but i guess it didnt make the feature freeze?
[03:19] <robotgeek> gmoore: message of the day
[03:19] <delltony> well usbdisk doesn't exit
[03:19] <thechitowncubs> terminal|giga, i have done that and the easiest way is just to leave windows alone and just partition the free space
[03:20] <delltony> let me try the sda1
[03:20] <gomer> i added a line the file for the PPTP GIU packaging.  I assume what you're suggesting in similar ..
[03:20] <terminal|giga> thechitowncubs, I did.
[03:20] <tristanmike> Hi
[03:20] <nickrud> gmoore, /etc/issue and /etc/motd are what you are looking for
[03:20] <delltony> would i use pmount maybe?
[03:20] <dabar> mattyJ: I still dont see why you think there is no graphical installer..is there none?
[03:20] <mattyJ> dabar: installing it now, no graphical installer
[03:20] <terminal|giga> thechitowncubs, what I was wondering was did you make /boot, and if so, did you make it bootable? or just one large / partition and a swap, leaving the / parition bootable?
[03:20] <nickrud> gmoore, scratch /etc/issue, sorry
[03:21] <mattyJ> dabar: unless it fell back to the regular way if my video was not detected, but i doubt it
[03:21] <dabar> so what, it has a text one?
[03:21] <sybariten> delltony: pmount ?
[03:21] <mattyJ> ya
[03:21] <delltony> yeah i thinkn its pmount for like usb floppy drives an dall
[03:21] <dabar> k...well I doubt they wont have a graph installer...
[03:21] <gomer> gone ... later and thanks ...
[03:21] <tristanmike> can anyone spare a moment to answer a sound question?
[03:22] <mattyJ> dabar: if they had one, you would think it would be in here, after all uplash made it in
[03:22] <nickrud> tristanmike, everyones got a moment, but the answer, well ....
[03:22] <tristanmike> just wanted to make sure I wasn't interupting something, thanx
[03:23] <tristanmike> I'm trying to get my rear and center speakers working...in rhythmbox
[03:23] <sybariten> delltony: ok i've never seen it as anything different than a normal drive
[03:23] <delltony> what do you guys gather from this line in dmesg usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[03:24] <sybariten> whats the first thing i should look into when i cant write to a samba share from win xp ?
[03:24] <sybariten> the folder is shared from Ubuntu linux with a very simple sharing tool, and a click box saying "read only" is not clicked.
[03:24] <Xira> thechitowncubs: im booted into the livecd but grub-install isnt a command
[03:24] <Xira> and i dont know how to mount my hd
[03:24] <timtux> How do upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[03:25] <_frank> timtux: dont
[03:25] <mattyJ> sybariten: under system>administrator>sharefolders make sure read only isnt checked
[03:25] <timtux> _frank, why?
[03:25] <thechitowncubs> Xira: did you boot using rescue?
[03:25] <thechitowncubs> and why are you booting the livecd?
[03:25] <Xira> ubuntu livecd
[03:25] <Xira> grub is borked
[03:25] <Xira> cant boot into anything
[03:25] <robotgeek> delltony: that a usb 2 compliant device has been attached? is it a trick question?? :)
[03:25] <Concord_Dawn> yes
[03:25] <thechitowncubs> it says clearly to use the install cd
[03:26] <_frank> timtux: unless you REALLY know what you're doing. breezy is not ready
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> !tell Xira about recoveringgrub
[03:26] <delltony> for you probably not for me ig uess so
[03:26] <Xira> sigh
[03:26] <delltony> cause i don't know how to access it
[03:26] <Xira> i dont have an install cd
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> you don't need one.
[03:26] <Xira> theres got to be a way to do it from the live
[03:26] <robotgeek> delltony: what is it that you attached?
[03:26] <thechitowncubs> Xira: i'll brb
[03:26] <sybariten> mattyJ: as i said; it isnt
[03:26] <delltony> a little digital camera
[03:26] <timtux> _frank, im pretty good on linux, but i think i wait then
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> Xira: check out the link that ubotu just PM'ed you.
[03:26] <Concord_Dawn> it works, I've done it, multiple times.
[03:27] <robotgeek> delltony: never used one, sorry can't really help you there
[03:27] <delltony> np
[03:27] <delltony> i was thinking it would be something like my motorola phone was
[03:27] <delltony> a ttyACM0
[03:27] <terminal|giga> why does apt-get install xchat return xchat 2.0.8 it's so OLD!
[03:27] <delltony> or somethin like that
[03:27] <terminal|giga> is there a way to get newer packages?
[03:27] <jtan325> terminal|giga, if you want to be a risk-taker, you could use breezy
[03:27] <robotgeek> terminal|giga: wait for breezy or compile on your own
[03:27] <jtan325> has the latest and greatest
[03:28] <terminal|giga> breezy
[03:28] <jtan325> but there's a very high chance your machine may break if you're not careful
[03:28] <terminal|giga> how do I upgrade to that?
[03:28] <_frank> terminal|giga: you can check hoary-backports if there is a newer version
[03:28] <thechitowncubs> Xira, do you know how to chroot?
[03:29] <mattyJ> sybariten: is the share folder owned by the user you are logging in as?
[03:29] <sm3rp_> Has anyone had weird issues with the s3virge X.org driver on hoary?
[03:29] <deufo> hi peeps, i just did a brae installation, when i got gdm and type the password, they display funny symbols instead of *.  Do you know why?
[03:29] <tristanmike> any advice on getting surround up and running?
[03:29] <yankee> is there a "safe mode" for ubuntu
[03:29] <sybariten> mattyJ: hm. its a bit diffuse, as there are both linux users and samba users.
[03:29] <reiki> how do I restart samba?
[03:29] <_frank> yankee: grub has a safe mode option, I think
[03:30] <yankee> im using ubuntu live
[03:30] <sybariten> mattyJ: however i think they both have the same name, as well as the XP user ... the XP user has no PW though
[03:30] <sybariten> hm, i did a chmod 777 of that folder
[03:31] <sybariten> hmmm that doesnt seem to help
[03:31] <mattyJ> sybariten: hrmm, not sure then, i dont really like samba, i always just used ftp
[03:33] <MagiPink> I think I'm liking Gnome Mud. :3
[03:35] <muffin_> hi
[03:36] <nickrud> tristanmike, you could try running alsamixer from the terminal and see if all the volumes are turned up. My limit on 5.1 :)
[03:36] <muffin_> i have no rights to write to my /usr/lib/ folder, what should i do to extract files into it???(i don't want to use to root-terminal)
[03:36] <muffin_> why cant you login to the gui as root anyway....
[03:37] <deufo> hi peeps, i just did a bare installation, when i got gdm and type the password, they display funny symbols instead of *.  Do you know why?
[03:37] <sybariten> mattyJ: yeah well its easier in a way, it is ... but then i wont be able to do certain things as transparent ... such as using the wonderful Total Commander with the ubuntu share
[03:37] <xrnath> muffin_ type sudo infront of your commands
[03:37] <Vivaldi> hello
[03:37] <robotgeek> muffin_: or gksudo
[03:37] <tristanmike> nickrud: Yeah, I'm there now, I ran the "speaker-test -c6 -D surround51" command and here's the thing, I get surround sound there, but the sound for the center speaker comes out the Ft.Lf. loud
[03:38] <Vivaldi> what's the kernel version in ubuntu by default?
[03:38] <xrnath> muffin_ you can also do sudo -s / sudo -i to maintain root
[03:38] <nickrud> tristanmike, watch for a guy named crimsun, he's the sound guru around here.
[03:38] <Flav> trying to get gzip/deflate support working in apache2, but i don't see a mod_gzip or mod_deflate package like there was for 1.3?
[03:38] <tristanmike> nice, good to know
[03:39] <tristanmike> nickrud, I see his name, but it's greyed, what does that mean? You have no idea of how much a computer n00b i am
[03:39] <robotgeek> tristanmike: he's away
[03:39] <nickrud> tristanmike, I haven't a clue :)
[03:40] <tristanmike> robotgeek, thank you
[03:40] <muffin_> txh
[03:40] <muffin_> thx
[03:40] <agnes> anyone want to help a newbie out with getting DVD playback up?
[03:40] <Bored1ed> anyone with Ubunto experience want to chat and give me some tips?
[03:40] <agnes> When i play any video it freezes the system and eats the cursor
[03:41] <robotgeek> agnes: which DVD player are u using?
[03:41] <agnes> I have tried totem and Mplayer
[03:41] <agnes>  both do the same thing
[03:42] <Dime> hey guys is there a piece of software that tells your the weather forecast?
[03:42] <robotgeek> agnes: can you try VLC and tell us if it does the same thing?
[03:42] <agnes> VLC?
[03:42] <robotgeek> Dime: you can get gkdesklets
[03:42] <tristanmike> Only the best video player
[03:42] <robotgeek> agnes: video lan client
[03:42] <tristanmike> IMO
[03:42] <nickrud> Dime, you can add the weather applet to a panel
[03:42] <Dime> ok
[03:43] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i agree
[03:43] <terminal|giga> um
[03:43] <agnes> robotgeek: is it in synaptic?
[03:43] <tristanmike> I thought they went defunct
[03:43] <terminal|giga> what do you guys type when mounting samba shares? smbmount what?
[03:43] <gmoore> http://img17.echo.cx/my.php?image=pdk1wy.png what poker game is that?
[03:43] <tristanmike> from pressure
[03:43] <robotgeek> agnes: lemme check
[03:44] <tristanmike> agnes, yes, it's in synaptic
[03:44] <robotgeek> !info vlc
[03:44] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[03:44] <tristanmike> agnes, apt-get vlc
[03:44] <Dime> any idea where i would find gkdesklets
[03:44] <robotgeek> apt-get install vlc
[03:44] <Dime> i looked in google nothin came up really
[03:44] <nickrud> !info gdesklets
[03:44] <ubotu> gdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB
[03:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek, touche
[03:44] <robotgeek> :)
[03:44] <Dime> thanks
[03:45] <DukGalNamu> i am having a problem with xine.... its skipping frames for some reason
[03:45] <terminal|giga> smbmount //samba/share1 /mnt username=admin doesn't work
[03:45] <terminal|giga> anyone wanna help me out with possible avanues i could take to fixing?
[03:46] <agnes> im aptgetting it now
[03:46] <DukGalNamu> mplayer doesn't do the dame thing
[03:46] <DukGalNamu> same
[03:47] <maxime> kill esd process and try to play something again
[03:47] <DukGalNamu> mplayer plays it smoothly, but i can't get mplayer to play fullscreen
[03:47] <DukGalNamu> nothing to kill
[03:49] <nickrud> DukGalNamu, try mplayer -vo xv <file> ; if that works, change vo to xv in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[03:49] <DukGalNamu> nickrud: i tried that, i got an error
[03:50] <ms12> anyone know how to change nautilus default them. I run it under icewm thats why the question?
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. Try -vo x11
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[03:50] <agnes> robotgeek: Im attempting to play a dvd, Ill be back in a bit if I crash.
[03:50] <DukGalNamu> anyone drown?
[03:51] <nickrud> DukGalNamu, I did, what card do yu have?
[03:51] <DukGalNamu> nickrud: ATI
[03:51] <DukGalNamu> nickrud: 9800 pro
[03:51] <vivi20> tux
[03:51] <jogariga> i need a sip client that works on ppc? any ideas?
[03:52] <nickrud> DukGalNamu, and, what did xvinfo say?
[03:52] <sm3rp_>  /msg Flav Hey there, it's Scott Parkerson
[03:52] <DukGalNamu> nickrud: xvinfo?
[03:52] <Dime> damn
[03:52] <zerboxx> Anyone here know mpc very well (well enough to help with a script?)??
[03:52] <sm3rp_> (who sucks at IRC, evidently)
[03:52] <sm3rp_> :)
[03:52] <Dime> the weather desklet that comes with gdesklet doesnt work
[03:52] <DukGalNamu> nickrud: no adapters present
[03:52] <DukGalNamu> nickrud: no *adaptors present
[03:53] <nickrud> DukGalNamu, and have you read the docs it mentions?
[03:53] <DukGalNamu> umm... no
[03:53] <Vivaldi> what's the kernel version in ubuntu by default?
[03:53] <DukGalNamu> 2.4 i think
[03:53] <cafuego> Vivaldi: 2.6.10 for hoary
[03:53] <sm3rp_> Vivaldi: depends on the release
[03:54] <c0rrupt_> hello
[03:54] <tristanmike> any sound people here?
[03:54] <DukGalNamu> of mind? no
[03:54] <tristanmike> lol
[03:54] <tristanmike> then I'm in the right place
[03:54] <AndyFitz> tristanmike,  yes and no
[03:54] <DukGalNamu> ROFL
[03:54] <c0rrupt_> how can i password protect a usb mass storage device
[03:55] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: encrypt everything on it
[03:55] <tristanmike> AndyFitz, I have sound, no probs, I'm just trying to get my surround to work
[03:55] <c0rrupt_> with what?
[03:55] <tristanmike> AndyFitz, think you can help?
[03:55] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: try searching synaptic for a tar archiver
[03:55] <AndyFitz> tristianmike,  oh okay.  no I can't help  I thought you were referring to the ubuntu sound theme
[03:55] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: sorry, a rar archiver
[03:56] <tristanmike> AndyFitz: Thanx anyway
[03:56] <agnes> robotgeek: you still around?
[03:56] <c0rrupt_> i only use apt
[03:56] <c0rrupt_> no gui
[03:56] <AndyFitz> good luck tristanmike
[03:56] <c0rrupt_> no synaptic
[03:56] <tristanmike> tanks
[03:56] <c0rrupt_> any other ways?
[03:56] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: then try apt-get install rar
[03:56] <c0rrupt_> how am i going to rar a whole drive
[03:56] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: and you will need unrar also
[03:56] <c0rrupt_> i have unrar
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> and i need to constantly access it fluidly
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> in linux and windows
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> ;\
[03:57] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: well, you are going to need another drive or set it to overwrite the existing file
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> meh
[03:57] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: or create a tar.gz first
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> im going to ask for an alternative ;\
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> how long would this take
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> the drive has like
[03:57] <c0rrupt_> 60 gigs of data
[03:58] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: a long time, but there is no way around it
[03:58] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[03:58] <deufo> how do i get firefox to display chinese characters instead of stupid boxes with numbers in them
[03:58] <EasterSunshine> how do i see channel modes for a particualr channel and the ban list
[03:58] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: if you want to lock it up fast, buy a firebox with a combo on it and put the drive in there
[03:58] <c0rrupt_> what about
[03:58] <c0rrupt_> kpg
[03:59] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: kpg.. never heard of it
[03:59] <zerboxx> I'm not sure how to best phrase this question, so here's my best shot: I have a file, no extention, that starts with "#!/bin/bash"  I know this is a script, but I was wondering what language it is, so I can know how to make my own
[03:59] <nickrud> zerboxx, it's bash :)
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> its kde
[03:59] <DukGalNamu> zerboxx: that is a bash script, using command line
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> application
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> it comes with kubuntu..
[03:59] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: but you have no gui??
[03:59] <EasterSunshine> maybe it has #!/usr/bin/python right under it?
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> it says
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> wel
[03:59] <Dreamer31> lets hope bash
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> i have a gui
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> lol
[03:59] <zerboxx> EasterSunshine: Nope
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> im just saying
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> i dont have synaptic
[03:59] <c0rrupt_> -kubuntu
[03:59] <DukGalNamu> lol
[04:00] <c0rrupt_> i dont like gui with apt-get
[04:00] <faol> hey can any one help me in linuix
[04:00] <c0rrupt_> just
[04:00] <c0rrupt_> baash apt
[04:00] <DukGalNamu> c0rrupt_: apt-get install synaptic
[04:00] <DukGalNamu> :P
[04:00] <c0rrupt_> lol
[04:00] <c0rrupt_> =P
[04:00] <speel> !gorillas
[04:00] <ubotu> speel: Not a clue
[04:00] <zerboxx> DukGalNamu: So the language I need to learn is "bash script"?
[04:00] <nickrud> zerboxx, you can start here http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[04:00] <DukGalNamu> umm, go to linuxcommand.com
[04:01] <zerboxx> nickrud: thanks! this is going to be a good learning experience, but I bet I'll get annoyed at least 15 times in the process :D
[04:01] <faol> how can i connect to a server 2003 using ubuntu
[04:01] <nickrud> zerboxx, I guarantee it, and then, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html :)
[04:01] <zerboxx> nickrud: ...perfect! :P
[04:02] <DukGalNamu> linuxcommand.org sorry
[04:02] <nickrud> more annoyances
[04:02] <dreman> Can somebody help me with an internet problem? Konqueror connects and works great, but, Mozilla and Firefox won't even though eveything seems to be configured right.
[04:02] <faol> you mean you dont know anything about linuix?
[04:02] <dabar> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.
[04:02] <dabar> However, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The linux can not ping the Mac neither. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out.
[04:02] <dabar> Perhaps eevn knowing where the logs are kept for ipmasq, or how to make it keep a log would be helpful. ipmasq uses iptables on my system.
[04:04] <Dime> anyone here running gdesklets?
[04:04] <speel> thoes hellishlets
[04:04] <speel> !gdesklets
[04:04] <ubotu> speel: Are you smoking crack?
[04:04] <cafuego> faol: samba and various zombie/worm control applications.
[04:04] <speel> Lol
[04:05] <zerboxx> nickrud: Ok, before I get started and end up destorying my computer out of frustration, can you let me know if I'm even heading in the right direction?
[04:05] <speel> !are you smoking crack?
[04:05] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, speel
[04:05] <speel> !sucks for you
[04:05] <agnes> Hey, im haveing some problems getting video to work on my system, no matter what player i use it gives me a blue video screen and then freezes my system. any ideas?
[04:06] <nickrud> zerboxx, bash is the scripting language you must know, imho.
[04:06] <maxime> have you installed the last video drivers for your card?
[04:06] <Ice9> !ati
[04:06] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:06] <Xira> lolz remember kids dont hard restart while ubuntu is booting
[04:06] <Xira> :[
[04:06] <zerboxx> nickrud: Well I need to make a script, but not sure where to start
[04:07] <cafuego> Xira: Why not? Works fine.
[04:07] <Xira> it broke grub
[04:07] <Xira> :x
[04:07] <tristanmike> angnes: this is a stupid question but you have installed the proper codecs?
[04:07] <agnes> maxime: I dont know, but this laptop is less than a month old
[04:07] <cafuego> Xira: yeah, 100000:1
[04:07] <Xira> well i guess i'm unlucky!
[04:07] <Xira> :P
[04:08] <agnes> tristanmike: im not even positive what a codec is, im pretty newbie
[04:08] <tristanmike> agnes: sorry about the misspelling, did you edit your sources.list?
[04:09] <agnes> tristanmike: i dont think so
[04:09] <dreman> Any ideas about my internet connect prob? Mozilla can't to resolve the proxy on a direct connection.  Konqueror can just fine. Ideas?
[04:09] <agnes> tristanmike: the only thing i changed was my respositories list
[04:10] <tristanmike> agnes: right, that's it
[04:10] <maxime> i had problems too with mplayer and xine but it turns out it was a conflict with the esd process for the mplayer part...i installed the nvidia drivers too...works fine now...but I need to end the esd process before playing a movie
[04:10] <tristanmike> agnes: look here http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback I'll be back in a sec
[04:10] <agnes> tristanmike: then yes, i have many repositores
[04:11] <agnes> maxime: how would i go about installing those drivers? are they in synaptic?
[04:12] <rob_p> zerboxx:  What sort of script are you writing, or wanting to write?
[04:12] <agnes> tristanmike: says i already have the newest version
[04:12] <zerboxx> rob_p: nickrud is helping me out right now, thanks though
[04:12] <maxime> go at http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:12] <solidunit> hey i just installed hoary on my laptop and i'm trying to install wpa_supplicant. apt-get says the package does not exist
[04:13] <rob_p> zerboxx:  No prob!  Just curious... that's all.  Good luck :-)
[04:13] <nickrud> rob_p, help is also welcome
[04:13] <solidunit> how do i install wpa_supplicant
[04:13] <zerboxx> rob_p: I'll let you know in just a minute :)
[04:13] <Ikzann> Hi. I'm running Panther and trying to install Ubuntu. For partitioning, I have one partition for OSX and I created one placeholder partition about 3 gigs big. In the Ubuntu partitioner, I deleted the placeholder and used the Use largest contiguous free space option to auto-partiton it for me. However, when it gets to the Yaboot step, it says that it can't install Yaboot on /target/. I try to continue wihout it, but when I boot with the option key, Ubuntu d
[04:13] <Ikzann> oesn't appear. Does anyone know what's wrong and/or how to fix it? Thanks.
[04:14] <linuxpoet> what in the world is
[04:14] <linuxpoet> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file
[04:14] <agnes> maxime: thanks im installingthem now
[04:14] <Dime> anyone here running gdesklets?
[04:15] <dabar> lkzaya, I know. You need a small new world partition on the first partition on the hard drive, for yaboot to install itself there.
[04:15] <dabar> Ikzann: ^
[04:15] <cafuego> dabar: Yes, the autopartitioner should have set that up (mine did)
[04:15] <tristanmike> agnes: sorry, the codecs off of ubuntuguide.org?
[04:15] <Ikzann> Mine didn't.
[04:15] <compdude> How do i rebuild the .udevdb? (I deleted it by accident and now I can't boot in ...)
[04:16] <Ikzann> So I need to partition a partition?
[04:16] <cafuego> Ikzann: File that as a bugreport; apart from that, I think you miht be looking at a reinstall :-(
[04:16] <Ikzann> of Linux?
[04:16] <cafuego> Ikzann: yep
[04:16] <dabar> cafuego: was it empty, youar hard drive?
[04:16] <Ikzann> I've tried reinstalling it about 4 times.
[04:16] <cafuego> Ikzann: I'll send you my partition list
[04:17] <cafuego> dabar: No, I had a Tiger install, did the same thing as Ikzann
[04:17] <Ikzann> My drive wasn't empty.
[04:17] <agnes> tristanmike: mine are updated, im installing the nvidia drivers
[04:17] <Ice9> where can I get drivers for my ATI card? The link I went to was for AMDs
[04:17] <tristanmike> agnes: ok, I'm a little behind, sorry
[04:17] <cafuego> artition via Disk utility, delete partition via fdisk, then tell ubuntu to auto-partition.
[04:17] <cafuego> !fglrx
[04:17] <ubotu> methinks fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:18] <cafuego> Ice9: there
[04:18] <agnes> tristanmike: ill be right back i was about to restart and see if the new drivers help
[04:18] <Ikzann> fdisk?
[04:18] <tristanmike> yup yup
[04:18] <Ikzann> Should I just partition the space as free space?
[04:18] <reiki> ok maybe a dumb question, but is there something for Evolution that will automagically trap spam and send it to junk folder?
[04:18] <bob2> of course
[04:18] <bob2> install spamassassin
[04:18] <cafuego> Ikzann: Mine didn't let me... I also had to create and then delete a placeholder.
[04:19] <Ikzann> What's the syntax for fdisk?
[04:19] <cafuego> Ikzann: hold on
[04:19] <bob2> why not use cfdisk?
[04:19] <dabar> bob2: I am glad you are here, maybe you know this.
[04:19] <reiki> bob2:  apt-get spamassassin?
[04:19] <dabar> I have installed dnsmasq, and ipmasq. I changed the /etc/network/options file to show ip_forward=yes. The /etc/dnsmasq.conf has been set up to work as a dhcp server. Also, I have tried setting up a .rul file in /etc/ipmasq/rules, one to allow dhcp requests. I am trying to connect a Mac computer using DHCP. The Mac gets an IP address, and the correct one, that I set up for that MAC address in dnsmasq.conf.
[04:19] <dabar> However, it can not ping the Linux, nor can it ping out. The linux can not ping the Mac neither. The best part is that it worked at some point, but after I tried mounting the wrong hard drive(which locked my system up) I can no longer get it to work. dmesg output can be found at http://dabar.selfip.org/dmesg.out.
[04:19] <dabar> Perhaps eevn knowing where the logs are kept for ipmasq, or how to make it keep a log would be helpful. ipmasq uses iptables on my system.
[04:19] <bob2> reiki: apt-get install, yes
[04:19] <bob2> ipmasq is unlikely to have logs
[04:19] <reiki> bob2: thanks... this is almost too darned easy
[04:19] <reiki> :)
[04:20] <dabar> I dont even thing my dnsmasq is working any more after some more experiments.
[04:20] <cafuego> Ikzann: The message you just got is my partition list, with 62G Tiger and 12G Linux (with 550Mb swap)
[04:20] <bob2> I've never used dnsmasq
[04:20] <bob2> I always use bind9 and shcp3
[04:20] <Ikzann> cafuego: Thanks.
[04:20] <cafuego> Ikzann: if you have the same partitions (but perhaps a different size) you should be fine.
[04:20] <dabar> ok, Ill try a diff setup then,.
[04:20] <Ikzann> I do.
[04:20] <Ikzann> But yaboot doesn't install.
[04:20] <goldenfox> help needed guys. - How can i mount my ntfs drives?
[04:20] <cafuego> Ikzann: Can you get into Linux via the boot cd and perhaps edit yaboo.conf?
[04:21] <dabar> bob2: dhcp3, off course, right, that was a typo?
[04:21] <Ikzann> I don't think a yaboot.conf gets installed at all.
[04:21] <cafuego> Hmmm.
[04:22] <bob2> dabar: yes
[04:22] <Ikzann> OK. I'm going to go reboot into my backup drive.
[04:22] <dabar> bob2: you used this for Internet connection sharing?
[04:22] <glick> dfd
[04:22] <bob2> dabar: yes
[04:22] <dabar> k
[04:22] <bob2> dabar: with shorewall for firewall and NAT
[04:23] <bob2> it's almost certainly more complicated than dnsmasq, but it was easier to setup back in the day
[04:23] <dabar> well. It is not working:)
[04:23] <dabar> after install..
[04:23] <dabar> which direction shoudl I go?
[04:23] <cafuego> dabar: nne
[04:23] <agnes> tristanmike: still around?
[04:23] <Codeus> Hey, what is a Ubuntu 5.04 respository that would have things like "UPower", "Expocity", "Skippy", and whatnot?
[04:23] <dabar> again I got an IP address.
[04:24] <bob2> none
[04:24] <bob2> since they're all pre-pre-pre-release
[04:24] <dabar> but can not ping out. nor can be pinged.
[04:24] <dreman> Ikzaan: Read this article:  http://linux.sys-con.com/read/47809.htm?CFID=150314&CFTOKEN=D7ECEB36-C20A-8017-5ED611390258F4D5
[04:25] <Codeus> so no unofficial respositories have pre pre pre release software?
[04:25] <agnes> tristanmike: I guess not
[04:25] <sambagirl> what is the music channel called?
[04:25] <Ice9> I don't have any ATI on that list
[04:26] <mrWoot> I am having a huge problem. I tried to install osx86 and it worked but when i tried to boot, i get an error reading "GRUB Error 17" Any help?
[04:26] <sambagirl> what is the unbutu music channel called?
[04:26] <MagiPink> Can I set xchat for automatic acceptance of DCC chats and sends and such? :3
[04:26] <cafuego> mrWoot: Asl for help on #osx86. This is #ubuntu.
[04:27] <mrWoot> cafuego, the channel doesn't exist
[04:27] <cafuego> mrWoot: Then you're SOL.
[04:27] <mrWoot> if you can't help, stop commenting
[04:27] <cafuego> Check the documentation apple sent you with your Developer kit.
[04:27] <glick> MagiPink, why would you want that
[04:28] <cafuego> mrWoot: This is an Ubuntu support channel, not a "make my warez run for me" channel.
[04:28] <reiki> bob2: spamassassin installed but disabled. Just set ENABLED= to 1 and then... what? how do I start it ? :)  Or do I need to read more config info. It looks like it should run out of the box
[04:28] <agnes> anyone feel like helping a newbie get video working, regardless of media player used I still get a blue video field and then it freeze my system, i have tried getting new codecs and installing Nvidia drivers... im at a total loss
[04:28] <mrWoot> it's from the dev cd
[04:28] <mrWoot> it's not warez
[04:28] <bob2> reiki: no, you don't need to do that
[04:28] <cafuego> mrWoot: it's also not Ubuntu.
[04:28] <dabar> are you using ubuntu, mrWoot?
[04:28] <mrWoot> yes
[04:28] <Ice9> I have an ATI Radeon 9250, how can I get the 3d support working
[04:28] <synack> libdvdcss!!!!
[04:28] <mrWoot> i'm on it right now
[04:28] <dabar> see, cafuego.
[04:28] <dabar> he is refereing the the Pentium, PC version.
[04:28] <sambagirl> oh gosh what is the music channel for ubuntu? i was just in it but i forget the name of it.
[04:29] <dabar> what?
[04:29] <mrWoot> thanks dabar.
[04:29] <cafuego> dabar: yeah, that's not Ubuntu. So wrtong channel.
[04:29] <synack> apple might sue you?
[04:29] <dabar> the intel version of ubuntu
[04:29] <dabar> not osx, or maybe osx, dunno.
[04:29] <cafuego> dabar: No, osx86. Apple MacOS X for pc.
[04:29] <TheGnome> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/source: No such file or directory.
[04:29] <dabar> ah
[04:29] <TheGnome> any ideas?
[04:29] <dabar> well.
[04:30] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[04:30] <dabar> then//
[04:30] <cafuego> dabar: The isnatlelr wipes out /dev/hda completely, so I expect his crub error pertains to all of grub being missing.
[04:30] <Ice9> I have an ATI Radeon 9250, how can I get the 3d support working?
[04:30] <Codeus> So there are no like unofficial repositories where you can get stuff like Skippy or UPower?
[04:30] <cafuego> Which, again, is not an Ubuntu issue.
[04:30] <dabar> cafuego: ok, wasnt informed.
[04:30] <dabar> they did not send me an official newsletter.
[04:30] <tristanmike> agnes: sorry, I'm mulitasking as about as proficent as Windows
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> grub being missing isnt an ubuntu issue?
[04:31] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: Not if it's missing due to a botched osx86 install, no.
[04:31] <bob2> of course it's not
[04:31] <agnes> tristanmmike: hahaha no problem
[04:31] <bob2> it's a "Mac OS X trashed your boot sector" issue
[04:31] <bob2> you go get out your ubuntu install cd and fix it
[04:31] <noravi> hello everybody
[04:31] <noravi> I need help
[04:32] <cafuego> bob2: No, it never tocuhed the boot sector. It did wipe everything else, though <heh>
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> cafuego:  wouldn't it take an equally small amount of time to tell them how to fix it as it would to tell them it's not an ubuntu issue?
[04:32] <bob2> Codeus: nothing on google?
[04:32] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: What, tell tjhem to reinstall, coz all their data is gone and get flamed even harder?
[04:32] <noravi> I'm trying to install some deb packages downloaded from the web
[04:32] <firebird619> Hi, does anyone know if there is a newer version of the PCTel modem Linux driver. The latest I can find is 0.9.7-9 and that driver does not support the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel.
[04:33] <joseduenas> anyone knows hot to delete thing in "Places Menu" in the gnome panel ??
[04:33] <PurpleMotion> cafuego:  heh, point taken
[04:33] <daba1> maybe i figured out what is wrongf.
[04:33] <daba1> Ill tell you in a sec
[04:33] <daba1> cause you all want to know.
[04:33] <PurpleMotion> in that case, recommend something like norton disk rescue i guess
[04:33] <Ice9> I have an ATI Radeon 9250, how can I get the 3d support working?
[04:33] <cafuego> recommend norton? are you insane? ;-)
[04:33] <darkheart> !ati
[04:33] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:33] <TheGnome> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/source: No such file or directory.
[04:33] <TheGnome> ??
[04:33] <cafuego> Ice9: via the fglrx driver.
[04:34] <cafuego> TheGnome: Install the appropriate kernel source.
[04:34] <Ice9> cafuego..it won't let me run it
[04:34] <cafuego> TheGnome: (it's not installed by default)
[04:34] <PurpleMotion> cafuego:  if someone's just formatted a hard drive and wants to recover as much of their old data as they can, what exactly would YOU recommend?
[04:34] <Ice9> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686-smp/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[04:34] <TheGnome> cafuego, how?
[04:34] <PurpleMotion> cause norton disk rescue usually does the ttrick
[04:35] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: I'd recommend taking it as a lesson, reinstalling and restoring from the backup.
[04:35] <PurpleMotion> works on fat16, fat32, ntfs, hfs, ext2, ext3, reiserfs, and a few other obscure ones
[04:35] <PurpleMotion> not everybody makes backups
[04:35] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: Then that would be lesson #2. Guaranteed they'll make one next time.
[04:36] <cafuego> TheGnome: install linux-source-2.6.8 (I think)
[04:36] <PurpleMotion> that's not a very helpful attitude, imho
[04:36] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: That depends, yours fixes the symptom, mine treats the cause.
[04:37] <synack> TheGnome: you can use synaptic to get source and i think it makes links too
[04:37] <PurpleMotion> cafuego:  that's how people act at tech support call centers everywhere
[04:37] <cafuego> ie: "If you lost all your data because you didn't read docs and didn't make a backup, you should make a backup and read docs next time".
[04:37] <PurpleMotion> you're stupid, go away
[04:37] <PurpleMotion> that's what you feel
[04:37] <PurpleMotion> yeah agreed, but you shouldnt have to sacrifice what isnt necessary
[04:37] <delltony> anyone now how to get a Argus DC-1510 working in ubuntu its a usb camera
[04:37] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: Well, it *IS* stupid.
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> yeah it is
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> i agree
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> and tell them they're stupid
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> that's fine too
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> but help them too
[04:38] <Ice9> when I try to run the fglrx thing, it gives me this "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686-smp/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted"
[04:38] <goldenfox> is ntfs supported by ubuntu?
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> thats all im saying
[04:38] <darkheart> Yarr
[04:38] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: I wasn't aware of any useful norton prodct, so i couldn't recommend one.
[04:38] <dbernar1> progress has been made, it seems./
[04:38] <cafuego> goldenfox: read-only
[04:38] <reiki> bob2: I've been reading spamassassin's website. They don't make it very plain what I have to do to make it work. It's obviously not yet marking incoming mail. Did I miss something simple?
[04:38] <PurpleMotion> cafuego:  right on :)
[04:39] <goldenfox> cafuego: how can i mount my ntfs?
[04:39] <PurpleMotion> well disk doctor is the shit
[04:39] <cafuego> !ntfs
[04:39] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:39] <cafuego> goldenfox: The url ubotu just said, download and run that script.
[04:39] <darkheart> reiki Hehe, that's what I do at work...What MTA are you using?
[04:39] <zerboxx> Where is gdm's startup file?
[04:39] <goldenfox> ok
[04:39] <bob2> reiki: spamassassin's website will not have anything to do with this
[04:39] <PurpleMotion> partitionmagic is pretty nice too
[04:40] <bob2> reiki: you'll need to find out how evolution uses spamassassin
[04:40] <bob2> reiki: unless you're actually using evolution to read a local mail spool
[04:40] <reiki> bob2: no I'm using evolution to just hit my pop mail hosted remotely
[04:40] <jcfreak> zerboxx: you mean like /usr/bin/gdm?
[04:41] <dbernar1> got it working! i0yt
[04:41] <dbernar1> as opposed to w00t...
[04:41] <Doonz> is there a program to turn .img files into iso???
[04:42] <dbernar1> my interfaces file was screwed up, which I finally realized, I guess.
[04:42] <zerboxx> jcfreak: maybe :)
[04:42] <dbernar1> Yay! anyhow.
[04:42] <joseduenas> anyone knows hot to delete things in "Places Menu" and "System" in the gnome panel ??
[04:42] <dbernar1> there should be a #imsohappy so everyone can come and be happy when they fix something.
[04:42] <dbernar1> !smeg
[04:42] <ubotu> [smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:43] <dbernar1> that program allows for that, joseduenas
[04:43] <dbernar1> not plcaes, yet. tho, I think.
[04:43] <zerboxx> jcfreak: I don't have that...
[04:44] <bob2> reiki: then the SA site will be useless
[04:44] <jcfreak> zerboxx: are you running gnome or kde???
[04:44] <zerboxx> jcfreak: I'm running fvwm
[04:45] <jcfreak> zerboxx: on ubuntu?
[04:45] <reiki> dang it. :)  hmmm... Is there another tool that will sit between evolution and pop and mark spam?
[04:45] <zerboxx> jcfreak: yup
[04:45] <jcfreak> zerboxx: i'm assuming you've installed gnome?
[04:45] <zerboxx> jcfreak: yup, had that first
[04:46] <kelsey> does anyone know what directory I should install  Java JRE (Hoary Hedgehog)?
[04:46] <jason_> this is strange. I just built a new system and installed hoary. Everything is running great except i can't use nautilus's built in ssh/sftp feature. On my laptop "ssh://serverip" works fine, but on this box i get "Nautilus can't display "ssh://192.168.0.5" . please select another viewer and try again
[04:46] <nickrud> reiki, in evolution, try edit-preferences mail preferences tab juck, and click check incoming mail
[04:46] <nickrud> *junk
[04:46] <darkheart> reiki google 'evolution spam plugin'
[04:47] <kelsey> anyone?
[04:47] <darkheart> kelsey Are you not installing from repositories?
[04:47] <reiki> nickrud: that box is checked..
[04:47] <jcfreak> zerboxx: how did you install fvwm? synaptic?
[04:47] <zerboxx> jcfreak: yup
[04:48] <reiki> darkheart: ok... searching web as we speak... err... type... whatever :)
[04:48] <kelsey> Well I donwloded the self-extracting file from Sun's website... but I can do that.. I didn't think about that. sorry.
[04:48] <jcfreak> zerboxx: and now gnome doesn't work?
[04:48] <zerboxx> jcfreak: I can run gnome fine, that's not the problem
[04:48] <pudland> hi all
[04:48] <nickrud> hm, I've had a few things dropped in the junk folder, but, I think I'm running a later version of evp/
[04:48] <goldenfox> my player cannot play mp3s?? any ideas how to install decoder?
[04:48] <jcfreak> zerboxx: whats the problem?
[04:48] <nickrud> *evolution
[04:49] <pudland> any body know a good how to for installing the joystick driver?
[04:49] <zerboxx> jcfreak: I want to have a program start when I start my computer, so I don't need to type the command every time, but I don't know how to do that
[04:49] <jcfreak> goldenfox: www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:49] <goldenfox> okay
[04:49] <goldenfox> :)
[04:49] <Ice9> k I enabled flglx or whatever it is for ati, and its not fixed
[04:49] <zovirl> anyone know how to get evolution spam-filtering to work?  I've searching around but can't figure it out
[04:49] <cafuego> omg, where is this garlic smell coming from
[04:50] <dabar> cafuego: youre beggiong for it, arent you?
[04:50] <punkass> ok i downloaded on of the new breezy current cds...started the install...used guided partitioning..and noticed that my partions wernt setup like I thought So I stopped and rebooted...now it seems my partitions are gone
[04:50] <delltony> anyone wth some spare time on their hand and doesn't mind helping me get a digital camera working with gphoto2 feel free to pm me
[04:50] <dabar> punkass: nice.
[04:50] <punkass> I never said partition anything
[04:50] <dabar> good work.
[04:51] <Dime> gdesklets
[04:51] <cafuego> dabar: eh!?
[04:51] <punkass> it showed me what it was going to do..but thats where i stopped
[04:51] <tomaj> is it possible that the kernel source provided from ubuntu is a different version to the binary version?
[04:51] <firebird619> Hi, does anyone know if there is a newer version of the PCTel modem Linux driver. The latest I can find is 0.9.7-9 and that driver does not support the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. I read on the Internet somewhere that there was a driver that supported the 2.6.x kernel but the site I read it on did not give a link as to where to download the driver from.
[04:51] <youngcoder> how do i install games with cedega?
[04:51] <jcfreak> zerboxx: give me a few, its been awhile since i've done that
[04:51] <tomaj> youngcoder run the install file from cedega
[04:51] <punkass> now i just have a LVM partition with a 56 gig /dev/Ubuntu/root and /dev/Ubuntu/swap_1
[04:52] <zerboxx> jcfreak: I still use gdm, so I thought it would have something to do with that
[04:52] <joseduenas> dbernar1, i have smug installed. but i want to delete thing in PLACES and SYSTEM menu, not in Application
[04:52] <punkass> is there any way to rebuild the partition table..as now my windows is gone aswell
[04:52] <dabar> the garlic smell question, cafuego, it was begging for a burn, well, it seemed to me that way.
[04:52] <dabar> a rally graphically violent one.
[04:52] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does anyone use a Linuxant Modem
[04:53] <punkass> dabar: so any words of wisdom other than 'good work'
[04:53] <lwizardl> hi
[04:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hullo
[04:53] <tomaj> punkass i dont think you can undo the partition tables
[04:53] <tomaj> unless you dont save it in the first place
[04:54] <Dime> anyone here running gdesklets?
[04:54] <jcfreak> zerboxx: okay, if you want a program to run when you login to gnome, go to System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs, if you want something to start on bootup, i think that has to do with your rc.local file (i've used that before, but that was mandrake)
[04:54] <tomaj> but im not 100%
[04:54] <punkass> tomaj: i never did save it..thats the thing
[04:54] <Ikzann> cafuego: So should I set up Free Space or a placeholder?
[04:54] <dabar> sudo fdisk -l
[04:54] <lwizardl> can someone help me with a few things. I just did the os install, changed root info. installed the nvidia graphics drivers
[04:54] <zerboxx> jcfreak: thanks, I'll check those out
[04:54] <dabar> and see if your partitions are there.
[04:54] <tomaj> punkass well then you shouldnt need to worry because it hasnt changed??
[04:54] <punkass> tomaj: but thats the problem..it did
[04:54] <tomaj> then you saved it...
[04:55] <Ikzann> I just wiped my HD.
[04:55] <muffin_> lol
[04:55] <lwizardl> i want to format my second hd
[04:55] <tomaj> follow dabar's advice, he probably knows more than me
[04:55] <muffin_> doesnt sound fun
[04:55] <Ice9> can anybody help me getting my ATI radeon 9250 working with 3d support?
[04:55] <punkass> dabar: only have /dev/hda1 linux        /dev/hda2 Extended  /dev/hda5 Linux LVM
[04:55] <lwizardl> and automount it
[04:55] <Ikzann> Clone Backups = wonderful.
[04:55] <tomaj> is it possible that the kernel source provided from ubuntu is a different version to the binary version?
[04:55] <dabar> tomaj: not likely.
[04:55] <muffin_> whats the bash command for deleting a file?
[04:55] <dabar> heh
[04:55] <punkass> dabar: and in hda5 i have: 56 gig /dev/Ubuntu/root and /dev/Ubuntu/swap_1
[04:56] <Ikzann> rm
[04:56] <Ikzann> muffin_: rm
[04:56] <dabar> punkass: were those the ones you had before the inadvertent breezy install?
[04:56] <muffin_> thx
[04:56] <Ikzann> rm -r to delete a folder recursively
[04:56] <dabar> man rm, info rm
[04:56] <dabar> those will tell you how to use rm.
[04:56] <dabar> altho...:/ using rm...hm...this is hard...
[04:56] <punkass> dabar i dont believe so...as i had an fc4 install on there..and i assume they wouldnt name the lvm Ubuntu
[04:57] <tomaj> dabar i'm following the wiki guide but its having a version issue looking into abi folder because it wants to find a 2.6.19-34.4 but the folder that actually exists is 2.6.20-34.2
[04:57] <Maddy> hello
[04:57] <tomaj> 2.6.10 for all of the above lol
[04:57] <punkass> dabar: But the confusing thing is that I didnt think that Ubuntu set up the partitions using LVM
[04:57] <jamie3290> dabar: dan ?
[04:57] <Maddy> can somebody explain me the sens of this sentence: And Don't it Feel Good
[04:57] <ssdd65> im having alot of issues geting my network up can anyone help?
[04:58] <dabar> jamie3290: ya, wassup?
[04:58] <jamie3290> dabar: hey man its jamie. from work
[04:58] <dabar> ya, I thought so:)
[04:58] <muffin_> Ikzann, thx rm -r did it :)
[04:58] <jamie3290> yesterday was my last day.
[04:58] <dabar> hows it going? i dont see you often.
[04:58] <dabar> ah.
[04:58] <dabar> that is why...
[04:58] <Ikzann> You're welcome.
[04:58] <dabar>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:58] <jamie3290> k
[04:59] <Ice9> can anybody help me getting my ATI radeon 9250 working with 3d support?
[04:59] <ssdd65> i need help with my network can anyone help?
[05:00] <tomaj> ice9 check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29
[05:00] <Ice9> dont that
[05:00] <Ice9> done*
[05:00] <ssdd65> my netwotk is "up" according to ubuntu but i cant ping or anything
[05:00] <tomaj> whats the problem?
[05:01] <tomaj> ssdd65 are u using the right ip's?
[05:01] <ssdd65> yea there all static
[05:01] <muffin_> is there a way to hadle files as root in a gui file manager???
[05:01] <Ice9> when I do the modprobe -r fglrx, it says operation not permitted
[05:01] <tomaj> ssdd65 are they right?
[05:01] <ssdd65> i tryed dhcp and it didnt work eather
[05:01] <jcfreak> muffin_: sudo nautilus
[05:01] <tomaj> um ice9 you have to remove the radeon module first
[05:01] <ssdd65> there right as far as i know
[05:02] <Ice9> right, I did that
[05:02] <muffin_> jcfreak, wow ^^, thx
[05:02] <tomaj> um
[05:02] <tomaj> ice9 try rebooting and going into recovery mode then doing the modprobe
[05:03] <youngcoder> tomaj, how do i run the installo file from cedega?
[05:03] <tomaj> ssdd65 im not sure what the problem is, have you changed anything hardware wise from your last working install?
[05:03] <tomaj> youngcoder are you using cvscedega or the pay one?
[05:03] <youngcoder> pay one
[05:03] <ssdd65> no i was never able to have ubuntu connect to my router
[05:04] <tomaj> cedega /cdrom/install.exe or setup.exe or whatever it is
[05:04] <tomaj> ssdd65 why dont you use dhcp?
[05:04] <ssdd65> i tryed
[05:04] <ssdd65> it wouldnt give me a ip
[05:05] <ssdd65> for some reason it refuses to talk to my comp at all
[05:05] <ssdd65> :(
[05:05] <tomaj> not sure ssdd65 sorry cant help
[05:05] <ssdd65> k thanks anyway
[05:06] <Doonz> is there a program to turn .img files into iso???
[05:06] <Ikzann> Is there any way you can get USB printer sharing to work between an Ubuntu host and a Mac OS X client?
[05:07] <zerboxx> For starters, I don't run gnome.  Now, when my computer starts up, all my fonts are really small, but if I run gnome-fonts-properties they all go back to the correct size, why is this?
[05:07] <goldenfox> brb guys ... need to reboot
[05:08] <dabar> ok, se you soon
[05:08] <dabar> needs to reboot.
[05:08] <youngcoder> when trying to install tyo cedega i keep getting a run-time error
[05:08] <nickrud> Ikzann, I was looking for something else, but maybe this can help you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromMacOSX
[05:08] <youngcoder> anyone got any ideas?
[05:08] <dabar> youngcoder: have you asked #cedega?
[05:08] <Ikzann> Thanks.
[05:08] <youngcoder> dabar, thank you
[05:09] <dabar> youngcoder: ya, welcome
[05:09] <dabar> !cedega
[05:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:09] <dabar> !ask the bot
[05:09] <ubotu> it has been said that ask the bot is to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example.
[05:09] <kelsey> does anyone know what directory to install the Java Runtime Enviroment in (I am using 5.04)??
[05:09] <tristanmike> Can anyone help me on a sound issue?
[05:10] <firebird611> Hi, does anyone know if there is a newer version of the PCTel modem Linux driver. The latest I can find is 0.9.7-9 and that driver does not support the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel. I read on the Internet somewhere that there was a driver that supported the 2.6.x kernel but the site I read it on did not give a link as to where to download the driver from.
[05:10] <dabar> kelsey: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:10] <kelsey> thank you
[05:11] <andrea_> adfjkl;
[05:12] <youngcoder> good luck getting help in #cedega
[05:15] <muffin_> is there a iTunes music client for linux?
[05:15] <socomm> muffin_: Negative.
[05:15] <eliUbuntu> anyone here use enlightenment?
[05:16] <socomm> Let me add a caveat to that answer, no `official' iTMS clients.
[05:16] <eliUbuntu> no enlightenment users?
[05:16] <eliUbuntu> =(
[05:16] <socomm> eliUbuntu: The world is such a big place, I'm sure someone somewhere use e.
[05:17] <oddjob> would anyone know how I would add lots of restrictions.. like making ps only show processes belonging to the user.. and stopping access to things like /var/log/wtmp?
[05:17] <socomm> Why don't you give #elightenment a try?
[05:17] <eliUbuntu> i have it all setup. figured almost all the loopholes and now its just one module im stuck on
[05:17] <Codeus> How can I make ntfs drives/partitions writable?
[05:17] <eliUbuntu> it works awesome
[05:17] <muffin_> i mean only a music player which can support the itunes shared music over lan
[05:17] <eliUbuntu> faster than metacity
[05:17] <tristanmike> Codeus: YOU DO NOT WANT TO
[05:17] <eliUbuntu> and much more beautiful
[05:18] <socomm> muffin_: All you would really need is the AAC codec for playback and perhaps a player like rhythmbox, or xmms.
[05:18] <jcfreak> Codeus: i've done it using captiveNTFS without a problem
[05:18] <Agrajag> tristanmike: of course he wants to, you should explain to him why it is a bad idea
[05:18] <Codeus> jcfreak/tristanmike: would it be easier if i just formatted it as a FAT32?
[05:18] <tristanmike> Agrajag: No, he should just accept it, like the gods
[05:18] <socomm> Codeus: That's not advisable, since that could potentially hose your NTFS partition.
[05:19] <jcfreak> Codeus: that would be WAY better
[05:19] <Agrajag> oh ok
[05:19] <oddjob> would anyone know how I would add lots of restrictions.. like making ps only show processes belonging to the user.. and stopping access to things like /var/log/wtmp?
[05:19] <Codeus> heh wow, so linux doesn't work well with ntfs, why?
[05:19] <Dime> does anyone know how to install iWeather into gdesklets/
[05:19] <Dime> ?
[05:19] <tristanmike> Codeus: most people who need to talk to NTFS and Linux have a seperate FAT32 partition
[05:19] <socomm> Codeus: Yes, try setting up a FAT32 partition for swapping files between Win32 and *nix.
[05:19] <socomm> Dime: /join #gdesklets
[05:19] <moshe> does anyone know how to switch window managers in gnome?
[05:19] <Codeus> all right
[05:19] <Agrajag> because ntfs is not documented
[05:19] <tristanmike> Codeus: it's an extra step, but worth it
[05:19] <Codeus> oh i see
[05:19] <Agrajag> and changes with each release of windows
[05:20] <socomm> moshe: Use gconf-editor.
[05:20] <Agrajag> though XP has been out for long enough that it's finally being slowly reverse-engineered
[05:20] <Codeus> all right, i suppose its time to format then :)
[05:20] <Dime> no one is in #gdesklets
[05:20] <muffin_> socomm, but how can i connect to itunes with rhythmbox? i think the itunes protocoll is too complex, you are able to browse the libary. its not just stream. can rhythmbox handle that?
[05:21] <jcfreak> Dime: are you having a problem w/ gdesklets?
[05:21] <tristanmike> Codeus: If you did write to it, which is possible, I suppose, you are in VERY serious risk of wrecking your 2000/XP
[05:21] <socomm> muffin_: Perhaps using samba?
[05:21] <Codeus> Whats a good tool to format FAT32 partitions that both Windows and Ubuntu will be able to use?
[05:21] <socomm> !samba
[05:21] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:21] <Dime> no its with installing a app for gdesklets
[05:21] <Dime> i want to get iWeather installed
[05:22] <muffin_> socomm, apple file protocol would be better
[05:22] <eliUbuntu> is iWeather an app inside of gdesklets?
[05:22] <muffin_> socomm, do you know if theres a client for ubuntu?
[05:22] <socomm> muffin_: I would suggest just sharing the music files over samba, since you are using MS-Windows.
[05:23] <Dime> its a app for inside of gdesklets
[05:23] <Dime> i want to install it
[05:23] <eliUbuntu> ok
[05:23] <muffin_> socomm, os x
[05:23] <moshe> socomm, after making the change, do I have to restart gnome or can I simply killall metacity?
[05:23] <eliUbuntu> you can do it via gdesklets
[05:23] <socomm> muffin_: Like I said there is no official client, you should try searching for a thirdpart application.
[05:23] <Doonz> is there a program to turn .img files into iso?
[05:23] <jcfreak> Codeus: you could probably do sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdd[drive #] 
[05:23] <eliUbuntu> you have to go to its installation option and then go to the url install
[05:23] <socomm> moshe: I would just restart GNOME.
[05:23] <moshe> thanks
[05:23] <moshe> I'll try that
[05:23] <eliUbuntu> you can place the location of the gdesklet app you found on the internet
[05:24] <jcfreak> Dime: did you try installing using the gdesklets daemon?
[05:24] <tristanmike> when downloading themes from gnome-look, which ones can I use if I'm running a default Ubuntu set up
[05:24] <Dime> yes
[05:24] <satafterh> i have a generial question, aside from looks are there any reasons one would use kde or gnone
[05:24] <jcfreak> Dime: what happened?
[05:24] <eliUbuntu> gnome is faster and more stable
[05:25] <IcemanV9> Dime: it's fairly straightforward .. d/l iWeather .. run gDesklets shell .. drag & drop iWeather tar file onto gDesklets shell
[05:25] <tristanmike> kde is flashier, or so I gather
[05:25] <letme0ut> kde is evil
[05:25] <tristanmike> lol
[05:25] <Dime> ok
[05:25] <^Ocean^> Any way to make Xfree86 or the Nvidia driver out put in Black and white mode on a color Monitor instead of Full color ?
[05:25] <Ikzann> Doonz: Try man mkisofs (I think that's what it is). That might not convert directy but you could mount it and then try.
[05:26] <satafterh> Ok, thanks. can I install gnone in kubuntu as I have just gotten mp pc to run the way i like and dont wont to mess it it
[05:26] <tristanmike> so which ones? gtk1, gtk2, metacity, none, all?
[05:26] <jamie3290> Ocean: just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that ?
[05:26] <jcfreak> tristanmike: i usually go w/ gtk2
[05:27] <tristanmike> jcfreak, they'd be ok for a default Ubuntu installation?
[05:27] <tristanmike> how do I know what X-Window manager I'm using?
[05:27] <auk> kde is evil
[05:27] <jcfreak> tristanmike: yeah, i'm using several, right now i'm using "d3a"
[05:28] <bob2> tristanmike: you're using metacity
[05:28] <bob2> tristanmike: and it's a "window manager", not a X-Window manager
[05:28] <auk> tristanmike: default ubuntu desktop (not kubuntu, mind you) is gtk2, gnome, metacity
[05:28] <rRubin> Im havin some kinda weird gnome-session problem. after successfull login, it just hangs on the orange screen.
[05:29] <tristanmike> bob, oh, sorry, I'm a Linux Virgin
[05:29] <moshe> socomm, that didn't quite work.
[05:29] <rRubin> gnome-session is in the ps list but it never comes up. its hanging on somethin
[05:29] <socomm> moshe: Did you set the new wm using gconf-editor?
[05:29] <tristanmike> bob2, that is, sorry
[05:29] <moshe> I changed /desktop.gnome/applications/window_manager from metacity to sawfish, and metacity still loaded up by default, and I do have sawfish installed.
[05:29] <socomm> moshe: I'm assuming that you've installed sawfish.
[05:30] <moshe> I installed it before I showed up here the first time.
[05:30] <tristanmike> so I should look for the metacity themes?
[05:30] <socomm> moshe: You could try setting using the full path to the binary.
[05:30] <moshe> I type killall metacity and metacity starts up again automatically.
[05:30] <moshe> that's an interesting idea.
[05:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I have a Realtek High Definition Audio Sound Card, how do i  get ALSA and sound to work in Ubuntu
[05:30] <moshe> thanks.  I'll give it a show
[05:30] <socomm> moshe: Yeah, GNOME is still using metacity as it's WM.
[05:30] <crimsun> Biscuitian_Warhe: you need to compile the snd_azx driver using the instructions I'm going to send you.
[05:31] <crimsun> !tell Biscuitian_Warhe about alsa-source
[05:32] <Ice9> k I'm 3d support still isn't working for my ati radeon 9250
[05:32] <satafterh> can you have kde and gnome on ubuntu??
[05:33] <crimsun> satafterh: absolutely. On Ubuntu, install kubuntu-desktop. On Kubuntu, install ubuntu-desktop.
[05:33] <satafterh> in kpackage?
[05:33] <Ice9> whats the deal with this ati stuff? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27506.html
[05:33] <Ice9> that dude is having the same problem as me
[05:33] <crimsun> satafterh: in kynaptic, sure.
[05:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Well, so far so good, just gotta wait for dialup to finish, thanks crimsun
[05:34] <satafterh> whats the lastest verson of gnome?
[05:34] <ginipig> hey guys, is it safe to remove all of the games from an ubuntu installation?
[05:34] <Dreamer31> ginipig: sure
[05:34] <crimsun> Biscuitian_Warhe: np
[05:34] <ginipig> Dreamer31: how'd i be able to do that?
[05:35] <Dreamer31> ginipig: i dunno
[05:35] <ginipig> Dreamer31: :o
[05:35] <Dreamer31> ginipig: apt-get remove game-package-name?
[05:35] <Dreamer31> ginipig: but then yuo're break the default "ubuntu-desktop" package
[05:35] <ginipig> Dreamer31: are you familiar with any "slim ubuntu down" guides?
[05:35] <ginipig> Dreamer31: that's what I meant by safely
[05:35] <ginipig> Dreamer31: less breakage the better :)
[05:36] <Dreamer31> ginipig: no
[05:36] <Dreamer31> ginipig: what is your goal?
[05:36] <uglysmurf_> anyone know why when i try to remove evolution it offers 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[05:36] <Dreamer31> ubuntu is not the best slim desktop distro
[05:36] <ginipig> Dreamer31: remove unneeded apps, without it being reinstalled during apt-procedures
[05:36] <Dreamer31> ubuntu: evolution is part of ubuntu desktop?
[05:36] <ginipig> Dreamer31: I'm aware of that. I'm trying to work with what I have, though
[05:37] <uglysmurf_> sudo apt-get remove evolution offers to remove: evolution evolution-exchange ubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <Dreamer31> ginipig: i dunno then
[05:37] <ginipig> thanks
[05:37] <Dreamer31> breaking the default packagin is messy so i never tried
[05:37] <Dreamer31> ginipig: uglysmurf_ is seeing what you would see
[05:37] <Dreamer31> ubuntu: you can't remove evolution without removing ubuntu-desktop, because it depends on evolution
[05:37] <ginipig> Dreamer31: i know
[05:37] <ginipig> Dreamer31: that's what initiated this conversation :)
[05:38] <uglysmurf> i need to read up more then...i thought evolution was just an email client
[05:38] <ginipig> uglysmurf: much much more
[05:38] <Dreamer31> ah
[05:38] <ginipig> uglysmurf: i'm looking to remove certain components as well
[05:38] <Dreamer31> ubuntu: it is
[05:38] <ginipig> uglysmurf: i'll /q you if i find anything interesting
[05:38] <Dreamer31> uglysmurf: but everything default is included in ubuntu-desktop
[05:38] <uglysmurf> ginipig, ty
[05:38] <Dreamer31> uglysmurf: you can't remove anything without breaking ubuntu-desktop
[05:38] <f[a] ce> :o
[05:39] <uglysmurf> Dreamer31, what do you mean by 'anything'?
[05:39] <ginipig> what if you modify the meta-package to ignore certain components?
[05:39] <Dreamer31> ginipig: the right solution is to create a new ubuntu-desktop package that you install with your desired depends
[05:39] <ginipig> it is a meta-package, after all, isn't it?
[05:39] <Dreamer31> uglysmurf: anything that's default
[05:39] <Dreamer31> ginipig: that's the right idea
[05:40] <ginipig> Dreamer31: very much so. Unfortunately, I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to do that, seeing as how I've never dabbled with apt-packaging ;)
[05:40] <Ice9> what gives with my ati 9250? I can't get 3d support at all
[05:40] <ginipig> Dreamer31: I'll attempt it, though; it'll be an educational experience
[05:41] <satafterh> i have an amd cpu, is there any benifit to having k7 kerenl installed?
[05:41] <Dreamer31> ginipig: read the debian package maintainers guide
[05:41] <Dreamer31> ginipig: creating a dummy meta package should be too hard
[05:41] <ginipig> Dreamer31: + 'nt?
[05:42] <ginipig> n't, rather
[05:42] <Dreamer31> ginipig: give it a name like ubuntu-slim-desktop... then you can just uninstall one and replace it with the other and if you use aptitude all the software should automatically be removed
[05:42] <Dreamer31> ginipig: yes
[05:42] <Codeus> So now I have this vfat (fat32) formatted partition. I did a "sudo nautilus" and browsed to "/mnt" and then I right clicked on the partition and hit properties -> permissions, but when i tried to select write  it wouldn't let me check it
[05:42] <ksmurf> how in the heck do i install the nvidia driver on breezy?
[05:42] <ginipig> Codeus: permissions
[05:42] <ginipig> Codeus: who owns the mount point?
[05:42] <charlie> Hi
[05:42] <Codeus> ginipig, root
[05:43] <Codeus> ginipig, i can mess with the "read" column
[05:43] <Codeus> ginipig, but not the write
[05:43] <ginipig> Codeus: is it mounted rw? or ro?
[05:43] <ksmurf> Codeus.... u can't change the permisions on a fat32 drive
[05:43] <Ice9> I'm trying to get 3d support on my ati 9250 and it seems like I've tried everything, can somebody please walk me through it?
[05:43] <charlie> I need mpeg support
[05:43] <Codeus> Ohmer, no clue how it is mounted
[05:43] <ginipig> Codeus: mount | grep vfat
[05:44] <charlie> hello
[05:44] <ginipig> Codeus: it's possible for you to modify /etc/fstab, and add a 'rw' option, i believe
[05:44] <setite> hey does this page work for anyone http://boards.cityofheroes.com/
[05:44] <ksmurf> sudo mount /dev/hd* /home/././whatever -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:44] <Codeus> /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0222)
[05:45] <setite> im not getting the text body of the page... and the scroll bar is there with no bar so im missing something that is necessary
[05:45] <LaserJock> does anybody know if there is a irc channel for Breezy?
[05:45] <ksmurf> the umask is wrong
[05:45] <ginipig> 022?
[05:45] <socomm> #ubuntu-devel maybe?
[05:45] <jamie3290> Codeus: try editing your fstab and add 'user' to your options
[05:45] <Codeus> Ohmer, so it should be umask=000
[05:45] <Codeus> oh*
[05:45] <jamie3290> then do not mount the drive as root
[05:45] <setite> yea LaserJock  what socomm said
[05:45] <ginipig> jamie3290: he's navigating via sudo nautilus
[05:45] <Ice9> !ati
[05:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:45] <LaserJock> thanks
[05:45] <BJW> OMG BAN Me
[05:45] <tristanmike> Codeus: look at this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42845 the great people gave me a step by step
[05:46] <ginipig> do it, op
[05:46] <bjv> so how do you refresh a network interface after editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:46] <IcemanV9> setite: the page works
[05:46] <bjv> without restarting the machine. :\
[05:46] <BJW> OP PLEASE KICK ME
[05:46] <ginipig> ifup?
[05:46] <setite> IcemanV9: do you see the text on the right...
[05:46] <charlie> Hello I need Mpeg support
[05:46] <BJW> gay
[05:46] <charlie> I am a newbie jsut installed
[05:46] <ginipig> how do i ignore by hostmasks in irssi?
[05:46] <setite> BJW: do you have issues... just leave if you want out
[05:46] <IcemanV9> the "last post" ?
[05:46] <ginipig> charlie: what's the problem
[05:46] <jcfreak> charlie: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:47] <Madpilot> !mpg
[05:47] <ubotu> Madpilot: Syntax error in line 1
[05:47] <tristanmike> setite: I'm there too
[05:47] <Codeus> Ok, now how can I copy a folder?
[05:47] <Madpilot> ubotu tell charlie about restricted
[05:47] <bjv> ginipig: gosh thanks, i kept getting errors trying ifdown first. didnt think to just move on to ifup. :(
[05:47] <charlie> I want to see videos on totem
[05:47] <ginipig> bjv: happens to the best of us
[05:47] <Codeus> nautilus weirded out when I tried selecting a folder and hitting "ctrl+c" then going to the desstination and hitting "ctrl+v"
[05:47] <ginipig> bjv: :)
[05:47] <tristanmike> Codeus: If everything is set up right, you should be able to just drag and drop
[05:47] <ksmurf> charlie ... check out the ubuntu guide
[05:47] <Madpilot> charlie: follow that link that ubotu just sent you
[05:48] <charlie> ok thanks
[05:48] <ksmurf> can anyone help me with the nvidia driver for breezy?
[05:48] <setite> under firefox?
[05:48] <tristanmike> setite: yest
[05:48] <setite> ok if you guys can see text on all those flash pages then im missing something
[05:48] <IcemanV9> setite: yep. it looks good.
[05:48] <Madpilot> setite: install the MS core fonts
[05:48] <setite> ok
[05:48] <ookla> anyone know how to load sound modules? new ubuntu did not find sound (on board)?
[05:48] <tristanmike> setite: it's just a form looks nice tho
[05:49] <iiiears> setite - Are you missing text in some flash apps too? - saw that on the boxejam site.
[05:49] <setite> dont have any flash apps to my knowledge
[05:49] <setite> show me the boxejam site you speak of
[05:49] <Deltaspectre> how would I go about installing aclocal?
[05:51] <dalamar> how do I get multiverse repo installed? I followed the wiki on the repositoryhowto and got universe selected but I dont see any optin for multiverse?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> !tell setite about info msttcorefonts
[05:51] <Codeus> How should I go about setting up the FAT32 partition to where Apache2 can host files off of it?
[05:51] <Codeus> I have Apache2 all set up
[05:51] <setite> thoreauputic: come on... there you go again... im a noob but i spend enough time in here to know how to find stuff
[05:51] <Codeus> But it keeps saying forbidden when i try to access
[05:51] <iiiears> Madpilot - has a solution worth trying.    (jittery from going cold turkey on a Strike a Match addiction. - lol)
[05:52] <thoreauputic> setite: sorry.... :(
[05:52] <setite> thanks but im already close to done downloading them
[05:52] <setite> no problem thoreauputic
[05:52] <setite> i love nick autocompletion
[05:52] <tristanmike> Codeus: did you look at the website I showed you?
[05:52] <Codeus> yep
[05:52] <thoreauputic> setite: i don't always remember who is who ;)
[05:52] <tristanmike> Codeus: still can't write?
[05:52] <setite> am i able to create a wiki?
[05:52] <ksmurf> ok if no one can help me with nvidia and breezy how about NFS between hoary and breezy?
[05:53] <Deltaspectre> anyone: aclocal?
[05:53] <setite> thoreauputic: yea i can understand that....
[05:53] <Codeus> tristanmike, it will write fine now :)
[05:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:53] <Ice9> I'm trying to get 3d support on my ati 9250 and it seems like I've tried everything, can somebody please walk me through it?
[05:53] <Codeus> but it won't host files off of it
[05:53] <lancellor> ubuntu is not recognizing my new hard drive
[05:53] <setite> i want to submit a wiki on how to get a certain v620 evdo card working
[05:53] <ookla> anyone know how to load sound modules? new ubuntu did not find sound (on board)?
[05:53] <ookla> please :)
[05:53] <ksmurf> ookla ... what card?
[05:54] <lancellor> iput dis hard drive as a slave  but i don't see it
[05:54] <setite> NONE of the available tutorials i found work... but i figured out what they are missing and have my card working... and would love to submit a tutorial to the ubuntu wiki so that no one has to spend the hairpulling time i did
[05:54] <jamie3290> Codeus: you need to put the files into apaches directory that it serves files from
[05:54] <setite> lancellor: is your main drive actually set as a master?
[05:54] <ookla> ksmurf, onboard sound
[05:54] <ksmurf> setite put a post in the forums
[05:54] <Madpilot> setite: wiki.ubuntu.com - get a login and go nuts!
[05:54] <tristanmike> Codeus: Double check on this, but you may need to run Apache2 as a super user, but double check
[05:54] <setite> lancellor: my windows buddy just had that problem
[05:54] <jcfreak> Codeus: have you set up a virtual directory?
[05:55] <Codeus> I have Apache2 set up to serve files from this /mnt/hdb1 that is formatted as a FAT32
[05:55] <tristanmike> there ya go,
[05:55] <lancellor> yes sir
[05:55] <ookla> ksmurf, sis I believe, knoppix found no prob ubuntu failed :(
[05:55] <Codeus> Yeah, it was working before when it was an NTFS partition
[05:55] <setite> Madpilot: thanks... yea i will post and add to the wiki... i find it odd that there is no mention of true wireless mobile on the wiki
[05:55] <Codeus> then I formatted it to a FAT32
[05:55] <ksmurf> np ... One sec
[05:55] <Codeus> and then copied the same folder right back onto it
[05:55] <lancellor> i have ubuntu installed on master and storage drive is on alave
[05:55] <setite> and its odd that NO one in here seems to have true wireless
[05:56] <setite> but then again its expensive... and that would stop alot of linuxants
[05:57] <Octane> how can i get an application, which i run from the command line, to output to a text file
[05:57] <Deltaspectre> octane: I know that one in windows!
[05:57] <Deltaspectre> but not sure if its the same in linux
[05:57] <Octane> i know app > file.txt
[05:57] <Octane> but that doent work :)
[05:57] <Deltaspectre> :(
[05:57] <Octane> i got it
[05:57] <Octane> its app &> txt
[05:57] <Madpilot> setite: I'm still using 50' of CAT5 here! much easier!
[05:58] <setite> well no amount of cat5 is sufficient
[05:58] <cafuego> the OH&S department doesn't like 50' of cat5
[05:58] <setite> i work security... and right now im in the middle of a parking lot 30 some miles from my house
[05:59] <ksmurf> will someone help me setup NFS between hoary and breezy?
[05:59] <setite> its not bad... it can play online games better than dialup... and it can download over 100kb/s when it wants to
[05:59] <cafuego> I swear, it's as if you're sitting in a 747 at takeoff
[05:59] <Madpilot> setite: that's impressive... I know spit about wireless, true or not - but by all means add stuff to the wiki!
[06:01] <lancellor> how do i do to set up a slave hard drive for storage
[06:02] <iiiears> Madpilot - msttcorefonts  includes the fonts themselves or just the tools to install them from another source (windows installation?)
[06:02] <tristanmike> I just installed metacity-themes from the repository but they haven't ended up in my themes menu, anyone know why?
[06:03] <cafuego> iiiears: It downlaods the conts from sourceforge and then installs thgem using cabextract
[06:03] <Madpilot> iiiears: the fonts themselves
[06:03] <cafuego> !info msttcorefonts
[06:03] <Madpilot> cafuego: eh, OK. is it just an installer? doesn't say as much in the package description
[06:03] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[06:03] <cafuego> See, they'll never even fit ONE font in 160Kb
[06:03] <iiiears> Madpilot - Ah okay, thank you. - patents, patents, patents, - bah who needs 'em. - lol
[06:04] <ksmurf> anyone?  help setting up a network between this breesy and hoary... please?
[06:04] <cafuego> Madpilot: See also 'Installer for ...' ;-)
[06:04] <Codeus> Anyone else have a problem where like they got their printer driver installed and working, but they can only print one page before the printer starts flashing error?
[06:04] <cafuego> iiiears: copying yer TTF fonts to ~/.fonts works fine too, btw.
[06:04] <Madpilot> cafuego: yeah, just caught that. Has MS really released these things for free, or are they copies?
[06:04] <iiiears> cafuego - nice tip.
[06:05] <zero_> oi
[06:05] <cafuego> Madpilot: They WERE released at some stage, but retracted later.
[06:05] <tristanmike> does anyone know how to use the "metacity-themes" package from synaptic??
[06:05] <cafuego> Madpilot: Still, if you have a copy of the original release (like on sf.net) they original license applies :-)
[06:06] <iiiears> Madpilot - yeah sure.. NOW you tell me.... - lol
[06:06] <Madpilot> cafuego: interesting... licensing is fun stuff...
[06:06] <Madpilot> http://bancomicsans.com/  :)
[06:07] <deufo> hi peeps, can someone help me get firefox to read chinese?
[06:07] <deufo> it displasys it as a block with numbers inside rite now
[06:08] <iiiears> copyrighted fonts? - aw c'mon. what kind of hocus pocus is that. - copyright a business logo but a font? - blegh.
[06:08] <deufo> i got the firefox chinese locales already
[06:08] <EasterSunshine> deufo have you installed any fonts with big5 chars or unicode chars?
[06:09] <ksmurf> how do I setup NFS
[06:09] <Madpilot> iiiears: actually, you've got a point, fonts themselves are hard/imposible to copyright - but you can still copyright the names and such...
[06:09] <ksmurf> !NFS
[06:09] <ubotu> ksmurf: Syntax error in line 1
[06:09] <ksmurf> !networking
[06:09] <ubotu> ksmurf: I don't know
[06:09] <tristanmike> iiiears: the majority of Adobe's fonts are copyrighted
[06:09] <misfit_toy> zzzzzzzlater
[06:09] <deufo> EasterSunshine, yea, in firefox under view and characters, i have big4 and stuff
[06:09] <cafuego> !listvals nfs
[06:09] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'nfs' by value returned no results.
[06:10] <cafuego> !listkeys nfs
[06:10] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'nfs' by key returned no results.
[06:10] <esac> i have an ALPS touchpad, and it doesn't seem to be working in X, any ideas ?
[06:11] <EasterSunshine> how do i quickly find out what ip a hostname resolves to?
[06:11] <raDeon> EasterSunshine /dns hostname
[06:11] <deufo> EasterSunshine, ping it?
[06:11] <zerboxx> how do I see what my ip is (both what the "outside" world sees, and what my router sees)??
[06:11] <cafuego> !nfs is Pick a machine to be NFS server. Install either the nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server, you will also need portmap and possibly ugidd (for mapping account IDs) Configure /etc/exports on the server and /etc/fstab on the clients. (man exports, man fstab)
[06:11] <ubotu> cafuego: okay
[06:12] <EasterSunshine> send /dns to the freenode server?
[06:12] <EasterSunshine> it returns: [481]  This command is for network staff only
[06:12] <raDeon> huh
[06:12] <raDeon> works for me
[06:12] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: /exec host <hostname>
[06:13] <ksmurf> cafuego thanks
[06:13] <EasterSunshine> cafuego: i get [DCOP]  Error: Could not find script "host". i am on konversation, btw
[06:13] <cafuego> ksmurf: if you need uid mapping between other OSes, you will probably need a static uid/gid map per hostname (that requires the nfs-user-server)
[06:14] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: 1) get a decent client.
[06:14] <dabar> Yay, raDeon!
[06:14] <tristanmike> can someone please help me with a dumb question?
[06:14] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: 2) open a shell, type 'host <hostname>'. If that faisl, 'sudo apt-get install dnsutils' and try again,
[06:14] <dabar> I dunno, I like that guy...has the spirit...
[06:14] <EasterSunshine> oh, that explains, i just had debfoster remove dsnutils
[06:15] <EasterSunshine> thx cafuego
[06:15] <cafuego> zerboxx: www.cafuego.net/ip.php will tell you your outside works ip.
[06:16] <cafuego> s/works/world/
[06:16] <cafuego> zerboxx: Sorry, www.cc.com.au/ip.php
[06:16] <zerboxx> and my router ip?
[06:16] <cafuego> zerboxx: 'route -n'
[06:16] <craigevil> does anyone know how to get wesnoth 0.9.5 in Hoary?
[06:17] <zerboxx> cafuego: Thanks a ton for both, weird that my internal ip is .1, I thought it was .101 or .100
[06:18] <iiiears> << Gleeful laugh - Boxerjam Strike a Match and Out of Order work better in linux. sure missed the site. - thanks guys. Madpilot.
[06:18] <cafuego> zerboxx: 'route -n' will have given you the ROUTER ip. Check your own with 'ifconfig'
[06:19] <zerboxx> cafuego: ah that's what I was looking for :D thanks
[06:19] <dabar> why does my hard drive not have any more space?
[06:19] <dabar> jj..
[06:19] <cafuego> dabar: it's little
[06:19] <dabar> heh
[06:19] <Madpilot> dabar: remove some of that p0rn, that might help... ;)
[06:19] <MoB_> hi all, have someone make ogle work? i have an audio problem
[06:20] <dabar> im about to...
[06:20] <dabar> obvious solution...
[06:20] <MoB_> Madpilot: lol
[06:20] <lancellor> can anybody guide me to how set up a slave hard drive for storage with ubuntu???
[06:21] <dabar> thats stupid anyhow
[06:21] <craigevil> I want to play wesnoth online but the server requires 0.9.5
[06:21] <dabar> how again? just sudo deborphan?
[06:21] <iiiears> lancellor - storage or backing up files?
[06:21] <lancellor> just storage
[06:21] <MoB_> lancellor: do you have it plugged in your PC?
[06:22] <lancellor> i have a 10 gig hards drive for linux and i installed a 8o gig for storage but i don't see it
[06:22] <lancellor> yes
[06:22] <MoB_> lancellor: did you mount it?
[06:22] <Madpilot> lancellor: seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[06:22] <cafuego> lancellor: You need to 1) connect it 2) fdisk it 3) mkfs it 4) mount it.
[06:22] <iiiears> !winmac_fstab
[06:22] <ubotu> iiiears: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:22] <iiiears> !winmac-fstab
[06:22] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you on ritalin?
[06:22] <MoB_> plz someone help me with OGLE
[06:22] <cafuego> confusius say four easy steps to pr0nlightenment
[06:22] <lancellor> let me check the web site ok? thanks
[06:23] <Madpilot> heh. cafuego, is it "on ritalin" now instead of "on crack"?
[06:23] <cafuego> !tell iiiears -about ntfs
[06:23] <cafuego> Madpilot: No, I just added a few
[06:23] <iiiears> www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  - mounts and edits fstab
[06:24] <MoB_> another question, have anyone knows how to recover a ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[06:24] <cafuego> iiiears: Not for useful filesystems, though.
[06:24] <dabar> it was that DVD I just copied over to my hard drive
[06:24] <dabar> anyhow...
[06:24] <MoB_> i just can't mount it, boot it, :{
[06:24] <iiiears> cafuego ?? - "useful filesystems"
[06:25] <cafuego> iiiears: ext2 and ext3.
[06:25] <Agrajag> ext2 is hardly useful
[06:25] <cafuego> Agrajag: liar. come here and say that!
[06:25] <craigevil> noone knows how to get Wesnoth 0.9.5 in Hoary?
[06:25] <jimbo_> hello
[06:25] <dabar> yo
[06:25] <Agrajag> I'll get all my dead ext2 partitions to say it
[06:25] <dabar> craigevil: it appears so
[06:26] <dabar> Im trying to download the breezy new iso, we'll check that out on some partition...
[06:26] <cafuego> iiiears: I'll rephrase it to "filesystems with normal file/directory permission support"
[06:26] <jimbo_> I'm trying to get my Rt2500 to work, I miss my wireless connection
[06:26] <jimbo_> <-----New guy
[06:26] <cafuego> Agrajag: Just coz YOU can't keep a box running doesn't mean ext2 isn't useful ;-)
[06:26] <iiiears> cafuego - lol - i am easily lost. - wide grin
[06:26] <iiiears> got it
[06:27] <iiiears> Welcome jimbo :)
[06:27] <jimbo_> I have the file to enable it, just how do I compile it and get it to connect
[06:27] <cafuego> s raining
[06:27] <dabar> cafuego: cause it is a weather applet for a computer...
[06:28] <jimbo_> I'm so new to linux on pc, I had it on my Xbox for a long time
[06:28] <cafuego> dabar: Exactly. It NEVER rains inside!
[06:28] <dabar> its purpose is to make you go out finally, unglue you from the computer.
[06:28] <Madpilot> cafuego: check the time of that report, I've noticed that my applets are regularly 2hrs behind
[06:28] <thoreauputic> cafuego: the weather applet is always right - there must be a fault in your perception of reality ;)
[06:28] <iiiears> cafuego - bad "'net weather" - nothing to do with "real" weather.
[06:28] <cafuego> Madpilot: It hasn't rained all day, though.
[06:28] <dabar> haha, thoreauputic.
[06:28] <jimbo_> lol, it rained here
[06:28] <Madpilot> cafuego: even odder. got the right station set?
[06:28] <cafuego> Madpilot: yep
[06:28] <zerboxx> If I'm not running X, how do I shutdown my computer?
[06:29] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: sudo shutdown -h now
[06:29] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: -h now?
[06:29] <thoreauputic> or just " sudo halt"
[06:29] <cafuego> Oh I see what's going on. it somehow assumes "Melbourne" is teh tard suburbs, as opposed to the city.
[06:29] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: yup
[06:29] <iiiears> shutdown -h or -r now   h=halt r=reboot
[06:29] <zerboxx> iiiears: ah thanks
[06:30] <thoreauputic> zerboxx:  man shutdown  *grin*
[06:30] <iiiears> typing "quit damn you!" in a console never works
[06:31] <dabar> I made a ask factoid, from what apt has on #debian...
[06:31] <cafuego> !factinfo ask
[06:31] <ubotu> ask -- created by dabaR <n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-56-191.dynamic.mts.net> 5d 11h 25m 17s ago; it has been requested 12 times, last by dabar, 2h 42m 51s ago.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> iiiears: yeah, the *nix guys should have implemented that
[06:31] <dabar> it references a cool page tutorial about asking questions...
[06:31] <dabar> heh, created by dabar, last requested by dabar...
[06:31] <esac_> i have an ALPS touchpad, and it doesn't seem to be working in X, any ideas ?
[06:31] <zerboxx> iiiears: I did try something along those lines, but had to hard restart, which I HATE doing
[06:32] <cafuego> thoreauputic: There's nothing stopping $LUSER from aliasing commands :-)
[06:32] <cafuego> thoreauputic: alias quit='shutdown -rn now You Lose'
[06:32] <thoreauputic> cafuego: indeed - to simulae windows accurately, you could set default runlevel to 6 as well - the wonders of power ;)
[06:33] <dabar> heh
[06:33] <cafuego> thoreauputic: mapping shutdown to the right mouse button is also always popular.
[06:33] <tristanmike> can anyone help me with a sound issue?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> cafuego: hahah - that's truly evil !
[06:33] <iiiears> can you set ubuntu to spinal tap run level "11"?
[06:34] <Madpilot> cafuego: that's brutal... I like it!
[06:34] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Nearly as bad a saving an applexcript in the startup folder on an old mac: Tell Application "Finder"; Shutdown; End Tell
[06:34] <dabar> you know what is an idea I always have?
[06:35] <dabar> to /join #ubuntu as for example sound(if you are crimmy/daniel...) and then your window always shows you when someone mentions your specialty...
[06:35] <dabar> ah?
[06:35] <dabar> nice, eh?
[06:35] <cafuego> Or the good old desktop-with-running-app-with-error-notification desktop background
[06:36] <dabar> heh
[06:36] <Madpilot> cafuego: I had something like that on my old Win98 box. Used to puzzle the heck out of anyone else who used the computer...
[06:36] <thoreauputic> cafuego: the BSOD xscreensaver is pretty scary too
[06:36] <dabar> or evebn better, cayuse that wont woirk on IRC....
[06:36] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Yes, I once enabled that on a demo Linux box at a tradeshow - didn't go down too well ;-)
[06:37] <dabar> allow to subscribe yourself to things like someone saying sound, if you are the sound expert in the channel, ...
[06:37] <dabar> idea?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> cafuego: how to win friends and influence people ... *g*
[06:37] <ksmurf> cafuego NFS is above my head.... I went back to samba
[06:37] <dabar> noone likes my awesome idea for that?
[06:37] <cafuego> thoreauputic: Also cool: cron job that prints ^G to /dev/console
[06:37] <RemyHome> howdy folks!
[06:37] <RemyHome> got a quick question.
[06:38] <dabar> You guys seriously dont see the benefit in what I am saying?
[06:38] <RemyHome> how do you add to the $PATH variable in UBUNTU ?
[06:38] <dabar> or jsut not getting the idea?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> dabar: some guy uses the nick radeon - he's ultra annoying "someone called me? WTF? ..." etc etc
[06:38] <dabar> add to /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:38] <ksmurf> shoot REMY
[06:38] <speel> sudo: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found
[06:38] <speel>  how is that possible??
[06:38] <RemyHome> ahk
[06:38] <dabar> right, I know that... thoreauputic, but, he is just stupid:) or being funny,...
[06:38] <cafuego> RemyHome: edit etc/profile (systemwide) or $HOME/.bashrc (just you)
[06:39] <ksmurf> ask Remy
[06:39] <thoreauputic> dabar: trying to be funny... succeeding only in being... trying
[06:39] <cafuego> speel: head -1 ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[06:39] <dabar> but, like, for example, you know how to fix pppoe, and so you subscruibe to that word in the channel, and your client notifies you just as tho someone said your name...
[06:39] <cafuego> speel: does it mention csh at all?
[06:39] <dabar> I like him.
[06:39] <speel> no
[06:39] <Doonz> dabar highlight
[06:39] <cafuego> speel: What did it print?
[06:39] <speel> #!/bin/sh
[06:40] <cafuego> speel: What happens when you run "sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run" ?
[06:40] <dabar> Doonz: what?
[06:40] <dabar> like, find?
[06:40] <Doonz> wich client you using
[06:40] <speel> ahh ok thanks
[06:40] <speel> some one need to edit the wiki on that one
[06:40] <cafuego> dabar: any decent client can do wordmatch hilighting (see also wordkick options) :-)
[06:41] <cafuego> speel: Why, et isn't Ubuntu software, is it?
[06:41] <speel> no i kinow but i just followd what the iwki said
[06:41] <dabar> RemyHome: add like so... export PATH=$PATH:/what/you/want/added
[06:41] <speel> wiki
[06:41] <dabar> at the end of the file/.
[06:41] <dabar> cafuego: in that it does the exact thing I described?
[06:41] <Madpilot> cafuego: there is an ET wiki page, actually...
[06:41] <dabar> just as if your nick was said...
[06:41] <speel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[06:42] <cafuego> Madpilot: Blasphemy!
[06:42] <Doonz> dabar yes
[06:42] <cafuego> Madpilot: Surly the commercial developers should support it!
[06:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> ooo, holy war!
[06:42] <RemyHome> I keep getting an error: No such file or directory
[06:42] <ksmurf> et works
[06:43] <ksmurf> is the file exacutable?
[06:43] <dabar> Doonz: wow, I came up with a cool concept...
[06:43] <dabar> in a past life, that is.
[06:43] <RemyHome> are tehre any restrictions to characters that can be in the path ?
[06:43] <cafuego> ksmurf: The error indicates a non-existant file. ie: typo.
[06:43] <pax> dabar: good idea. I just associated the word 'pr0n' with a nice sound :c)
[06:43] <RemyHome> the directory is there though...
[06:43] <cafuego> iiiears: Can you switch off the away notification, please?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> dabar: for instance in xchat, prefs, general, beep on highlighted messages > Extra words
[06:43] <RemyHome> I'm navigating to it then copy/pasting
[06:43] <dabar> pax: how
[06:43] <iiiears> ah certainly
[06:43] <dabar> no!
[06:43] <dabar> I want irssi
[06:43] <dabar> heh
[06:43] <Madpilot> pax: the wonders of technology...
[06:43] <cafuego> iiiears: Thank you.
[06:43] <ksmurf> cafuego .... I forgot spelling counts in linux
[06:43] <dabar> give me irssi!
[06:44] <dabar> heh
[06:44] <cafuego> spelling always counts
[06:44] <dabar> thinks capitalization likely.
[06:44] <RemyHome> anyone know a command to add the current directory to the $PATH ?
[06:44] <RemyHome> (not .)
[06:44] <raDeon> yes
[06:44] <cafuego> dabar: 'capitalisation'
[06:44] <RemyHome> the actual directory I am currently in...
[06:44] <raDeon> rm -rf /
[06:44] <jason__> i just put together a new system- amd 64 3000+, 512 MB PC3200 DDR, 160 GB Seagate 7200 RPM drive and i installed hoary this morning. Everything's running great, but in my rush to get ubuntu installed, i forgot to create a swap partition. the performance has been excellent thus far. Do i need a swap partition?
[06:44] <cafuego> bloody yank
[06:44] <RemyHome> lol sof
[06:44] <cafuego> jason__: Nah
[06:45] <Agrajag> you can make a swap file pretty easily if you ever feel you need it
[06:45] <cafuego> jason__: Should you find you want one, you can make a swap FILE
[06:45] <jason__> cafuego, how?
[06:45] <dabar> I hate the s thing... so many words I miss that in...
[06:45] <dabar> haha
[06:45] <cafuego> jason__: like make a file called /swap using 'dd', run mkswap on it, add it to /etc/fstab.
[06:45] <jason__> heh- i was comparing multitasking in ubuntu v. xp- ubuntu seems to be much faster
[06:45] <dabar> raDeon: man, that would not have been funny from someone else...
[06:45] <jason__> at loading multiple programs at one time and keeping stuff in RAM
[06:45] <firebird619> Could someone help me. I have installed my modem into Linux with PCTel drivers that support my kernel and I think everything installed properly. I followed the instructions in the README file and I checked with lsmod and everything is listed there that is suppose to be listed however I cannot connect to the Internet. I have tried /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS_PCTEL0 which to my knowledge are only two that the modem are linked to.
[06:45] <dabar> kick him?
[06:46] <cafuego> jason__: it's a better OS, so that's not sprprising ;-)
[06:46] <Agrajag> dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=<size in megs> && mkswap /swapfile && swapon /swapfile
[06:46] <dabar> RemyHome: whats sof?
[06:46] <auk> Agrajag: belgium!!
[06:47] <cafuego> auk: a holy war against belgium! brilliant!
[06:47] <auk> aww not NOW
[06:47] <dabar> see what you did auk...
[06:47] <dabar> you are a bad bad man.
[06:47] <auk> lol
[06:47] <jason__> cafuego, i was thinking of using the amd64 version but i wanted the mutlimedia codecs and a few of the backported packages not available in hoary. how much faster is a pure 64 bit system?
[06:47] <RemyHome> got bot
[06:47] <dabar> thing,...
[06:47] <dabar> spanking
[06:47] <dabar> anyhow,. night
[06:47] <RemyUbuntu> k
[06:47] <cafuego> jason__: Not noticably for stuff like video/audio playback, office, email, browsing.
[06:47] <RemyUbuntu> Now I'm on the ubuntu machine :)
[06:47] <dabar> I got IC shatring working, w00t!
[06:48] <jason__> hoary-extras is currently only i386 as is backports, but i would imagine backports will support amd64 sometime
[06:48] <auk> cafuego, no
[06:48] <cafuego> jason__: If you do a lot of video recoding/compiling etc, 64bit might be worth it (except the encoders may or may not work anwyay)
[06:48] <jason__> cafuego, so, the only noticeable improvements are in areas like databases and server apps?
[06:48] <RemyUbuntu> trying to add : /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin to the $PATH
[06:48] <lancellor> how do i give permission to a folder to read and write somthing like chmod
[06:48] <RemyUbuntu> anyone tell me how to do that ?
[06:49] <auk> cafuego, no: no holy war against belgium; holy war against.....vi!!
[06:49] <RemyUbuntu> lancellor chmod --help
[06:49] <RemyUbuntu> :)
[06:49] <jason__> lancellor, man chmod
[06:49] <cafuego> jason__: You'll see improveds speed mainly in apps that either use a lot of cpu cycles or don't constantly wait for user input, yes.
[06:49] <auk> Agrajag: belgium!!
[06:49] <jason__> lancellor, chmod 755 to give read/write/execute to your user and read/execute to group & other
[06:49] <cafuego> auk: Te laat, ik ben al halverwege brussel.
[06:49] <Carpe_Libertatem> Can I ask - what are some major goodies the DVD of Ubuntu has that the CD version doesn't have?
[06:50] <auk> cafuego: i am NOT!!
[06:50] <jason__> lancellor, read=4, read+write=6, read+write+execute=7
[06:50] <cafuego> Carpe_Libertatem: All the other software, that you could normally fetch off the net via 'apt-get'
[06:50] <lancellor> thanks what about 777
[06:50] <ksmurf> can anyone or will anyone help me get nvidia driver working on breezy or send me in the right direction to get it installed?
[06:50] <jason__> read+execute=5
[06:50] <RemyHome> how can I check which file is loading the PATH ?
[06:50] <RemyHome> ie, is it a profile one or a system one...
[06:50] <jason__> lancellor, 777 can be read/written to by anyone
[06:50] <cafuego> RemyHome: Ok, stop.
[06:51] <cafuego> RemyHome: Your issue is not $PATH but an incorrect way of installing Java.
[06:51] <jason__> Carpe_Libertatem, well, the CD only has packages that are installed as part of the base system. the DVD has all of main
[06:51] <cafuego> RemyHome: wiki.ubuntu.com/java
[06:51] <lancellor> thank you guys
[06:51] <jason__> Carpe_Libertatem, but after you install you will be installing from the ubuntu servers most likely in which case having the DVD probably won't be a big advantage
[06:52] <RemyHome> lol k
[06:52] <RemyHome> :)
[06:52] <RemyHome> will check
[06:52] <cafuego> RemyHome: In fact, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[06:52] <jason__> Carpe_Libertatem, especially if you want to use universe, multiverse or backports which requires internet access
[06:52] <ksmurf> !breezy
[06:52] <ubotu> from memory, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:52] <cafuego> RemyHome: That will create you a .deb file that will install to the normal directories.
[06:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> I don't know what Universe and Multiverse are.
[06:52] <ksmurf> !nvidia
[06:52] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[06:53] <thoreauputic> !tell Carpe_Libertatem about repos
[06:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> I was using Gnoppix earlier, and I must say... seeing Ubuntu through it, it's the most attractive-by-default Linux distro I've ever seen.
[06:56] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: we like it too :)
[06:58] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: of course if you're like me you proceed to change all the themes and wonder why it looks ugly all of a sudden ;)
[06:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> ha
[06:59] <iiiears> thoreauputic - ugly is in the eye of the beholder. - my wife likes magenta. - lol
[06:59] <ksmurf> has anyone had luck with the nvidia driver in breezy?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> iiiears: magenta is a useful mixing colour but I wouldn't like to live there ;)
[07:00] <nos> Can anyone help me out with a little problem?, I have to reinstall the video driver after every reboot. thanks
[07:00] <TraceGreen> Hello, Does ubuntu contain captive module for writting ntfs?
[07:00] <thoreauputic> TraceGreen: no
[07:01] <TraceGreen> thoreauputic, or do you try to compile it to ubuntu?
[07:01] <ksmurf> night all
[07:01] <onlinebacon> hello
[07:01] <RemyUbuntu> which is ubuntu hoary? is that 5.04 ?
[07:01] <thoreauputic> TraceGreen: I don't use ntfs/windows
[07:02] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: yes  - cat /etc/issue to see
[07:02] <RemyHome> ta
[07:02] <thoreauputic> RemyUbuntu: ^^^
[07:02] <RemyHome> lol
[07:02] <RemyHome> :P
[07:04] <firebird619> Could someone please help me. I have installed my modem into Linux with PCTel drivers that support my kernel. I followed the instructions in the README file and lsmod lists everything that is suppose to be listed however I cannot connect to the Internet. I have tried /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS_PCTEL0 which to my knowledge are only two that the modem are linked to.
[07:06] <iiiears> certainly got quiet here all of a sudden..
[07:06] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does anyone know of any good MUD clients for *nix?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> :D
[07:07] <iiiears> lol
[07:08] <thoreauputic> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/iiiears
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Carpe_Libertatem,  theres proberly several dozen of them. many are designed to work with a specific kind of mud however.
[07:08] <pax> iiiears: lucky you, my wife just reboots saying she couldn't find excel in 'youbetoo'
[07:08] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[07:08] <Carpe_Libertatem> I am sure there are dozens of them, but all I need is one decent one. :-)
[07:08] <iiiears> firebird619, - looks like the room is for the moment empty of modem experts. - let's quiz ubotu for a link or some bit of helpful info.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Carpe_Libertatem,  that would depend on the mud style you are using.
[07:09] <iiiears> !modem
[07:09] <ubotu> iiiears: I don't know
[07:09] <iiiears> !mgetty
[07:09] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, iiiears
[07:09] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[07:09] <ubotu> msg the bot is, like, please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. dont annoy dabaR
[07:09] <iiiears> !vgetty
[07:09] <ubotu> iiiears: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> may want to see what the mud homepage/site/developers/builders in question reccomend.
[07:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> Dr_Willis - It's Diku/Circle
[07:10] <tristanmike> can someone please give me a hand
[07:10] <thoreauputic> iiiears: you've succeeded in demonstrating ubotu 's abysmal ignorance on the subject of modems :)
[07:11] <iiiears> thor likely the bot knows more than i do about them......
[07:11] <Madpilot> tristanmike: just ask your question...
[07:11] <thoreauputic> iiiears: heh - likewise
[07:11] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic: the problem is, what sort of developer or helper uses a modem
[07:11] <tristanmike> I've installed the metacity-themes pack from synaptic but I can't use my new themes. Why?
[07:11] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: I do, you insensitive clod! *grin*
[07:11] <HrdwrBoB> they don't, they've almost all got DSL/cable,local networks and dedicated network devices
[07:11] <firebird619> I do not even know what the correct drivers to get are because scanModem says PCTel, the box the modem come in says Intel537EP and Windows XP says Intel 537EP
[07:11] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic: haha
[07:12] <RemyUbuntu> k, need some more help :P
[07:12] <Madpilot> !winmodem
[07:12] <ubotu> Madpilot: I give up, what is it?
[07:12] <speel> hey any way to edit the menus in gnome
[07:12] <RemyUbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[07:12] <RemyUbuntu> it says to install the java-package package...
[07:13] <RemyUbuntu> but when I run that it says it can't find that package...
[07:13] <Madpilot> RemyHome: if you just need java, do this: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: the bot answered in the same manner as Linux usually answers when questioned on winmodems ;)
[07:13] <Madpilot> much easier
[07:13] <iiiears> lol
[07:13] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: yup - could have sworn there was a winmodem entry, though...
[07:14] <RemyHome> k, will try Madpilot
[07:15] <visor> hi guys
[07:16] <iiiears> tulip drivers and configuring every tiny bit of everything. - made win 3.1 seem simple.
[07:16] <tristanmike> any help would be appreiciated and passed on
[07:16] <visor> anyone have a ALi M5451 modem working on hoary?
[07:16] <iiiears> by comparison
[07:18] <Carpe_Libertatem> What kernel version does Ubuntu 5.04 use?
[07:18] <HrdwrBoB> 2.5.10
[07:18] <HrdwrBoB> er 2.6.10
[07:18] <iiiears> carpe - uname -a
[07:18] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: "uname -a" in a terminal
[07:19] <ookla> hmm a good one for you all, why would knoppix find sound and not ubuntu or ubuntu live?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> ookla: Knoppix 1 : Ubuntu 0
[07:19] <speel> !gnome menu
[07:19] <ubotu> speel: No idea
[07:19] <speel> grr
[07:20] <FR500> hello
[07:20] <ookla> don't want that want ubuntu w/sound :)
[07:20] <thoreauputic> ookla: :)
[07:20] <kid_iCarCus> hello i got tihs error when i load gnome it says "Error activating XKB configuration
[07:20] <IceDC571> how do i kill those other tty sessions?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> ookla: the resident sound guru is crimsun - but I don't think he's here atm
[07:21] <ookla> hmm ok thanx for the heads up
[07:21] <speel> any ideas on editing the gnome menus?
[07:22] <Madpilot> !smeg
[07:22] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:22] <Madpilot> speel: ^^^
[07:22] <speel> ah ty
[07:24] <tristanmike> can no one help me?
[07:24] <Carpe_Libertatem> Have you been to a doctor?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> IceDC571: I don't understand your question ...
[07:25] <Madpilot> tristanmike: I've only ever gotten themes of the web, never played with the repository packages...
[07:25] <IceDC571> thoreauputic, i have other terminal sessions on here and i want to end those
[07:25] <tristanmike> they are in my usr/share/themes directory, but not listed in my System-Preferences-Themes
[07:25] <thoreauputic> IceDC571: so logout of them?
[07:26] <speel> is it safe to update with the backports packages?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: have you checked the details tab ?
[07:26] <tristanmike> I tried to copy/paste the original folders into my ./Themes directory to no avail
[07:26] <bob2> speel: only if you know what it entails, and how to fix things if they break your machine
[07:26] <IceDC571> ack.. i guess i'll have to reinstall breezy, i dont think this should be happening
[07:27] <thoreauputic> ah.. breezy
[07:27] <tristanmike> no, but I just checked, not their either
[07:27] <Imagix> Hi... got a problem upgrading ia32-libs on an AMD64 regarding libGL.so.1.  This is on v5.04.... ideas?
[07:27] <tristanmike> they have an .xml file if that helps,
[07:27] <speel> ah ok
[07:28] <jason__> cafuego, damn, i wasn't logging in xchat (as i just installed this machine). can you tell me the instructions for creating a swap file again?
[07:30] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[07:30] <setite> hey where in kopete can i unblock people...
[07:31] <Madpilot> fsck - did the Linux nerd who originally created this command realize how it would be used? :) I'm betting yes, but...
[07:32] <setite> Madpilot: yea i presume he did.. what is it
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I think fsck predates linux considerably ( Unix nerd I would assume) :)
[07:33] <speel> grr smeg wont install
[07:33] <Madpilot> setite: see what PurpleMotion just posted - not the first time I've seen "fsck" used like that...
[07:33] <DukGalNamu> i think i figured out another clue to my problem
[07:33] <Madpilot> just an observation - all the dirty-minded *nix nerds... ;)
[07:34] <thoreauputic> speel: use the script on Amaranth's site
[07:34] <DukGalNamu> i moved out the current firefox folder and ran firefox and i had almost no problems
[07:34] <speel> link
[07:34] <thoreauputic> !smeg
[07:34] <ubotu> it has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:34] <DukGalNamu> but then i copied my bookmarks into the new one and it had the same problem
[07:34] <thoreauputic> speel: the realista one
[07:36] <bob2> Madpilot: as an aside, fsck predats linux by decades, I'd think
[07:36] <ubuntu> #bawel
[07:36] <jason__> cafuego, nevermind, i found the help i needed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq?highlight=%28swap%29
[07:36] <ubuntu> #join bawel
[07:36] <jason__> !swap
[07:37] <ubotu> [swap]  used when you run out of physical memory, to add more swap see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SwapFaq
[07:37] <ubuntu> !sa
[07:37] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ubuntu
[07:37] <NoAires> Hey yall, quick Q, got .cda files on the hd, want to burn audio cd with k3b, but won't let me, any ideas?
[07:37] <ubuntu> ^-^
[07:37] <HrdwrBoB> that swap entry is completely wrong
[07:37] <ubuntu> joined #kubuntu
[07:37] <Madpilot> bob2: heh, and I bet bad jokes involving fsck are only a few days younger than the term!
[07:37] <HrdwrBoB> can someone with bot access fix that
[07:38] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: you have bot access - we all do
[07:38] <setite> Madpilot: yea i know what he did... im asking what it does besides the pg substitute
[07:39] <Madpilot> setite: "man fsck" to find out for yourself! ;)
[07:39] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: like, "ubotu, no swap is ... <correction>
[07:39] <setite> grrr
[07:39] <setite> !fsck
[07:39] <ubotu> setite: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:40] <Madpilot> setite: fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
[07:40] <setite> yay.. ubotu is british
[07:40] <Myrtti> wha?
[07:40] <setite> file system check?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> setite: no mate - Australian ;)
[07:40] <Myrtti> South African?
[07:40] <tom1999> hey all
[07:40] <setite> australian... close enough
[07:40] <thoreauputic> cafuego is in .au
[07:40] <HrdwrBoB> no, ubotu swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[07:41] <Madpilot> cafuego is from NZ, afaik
[07:41] <speel> thanks
[07:41] <Myrtti> ubotu?
[07:41] <tom1999> hey all
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic: yeah I know how to work infobot I thought it was restricted though
[07:41] <PurpleMotion> yeah, he's a kiwi
[07:41] <thoreauputic> setite: grrrrr Australians are *not* British!!
[07:41] <tom1999> omg this ubuntu is so good
[07:41] <jsgotangco> lol
[07:41] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  they used to be.
[07:41] <tom1999> recived my cd's today
[07:41] <setite> well the aborigines arent... but if you wanna get technical they are
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> ubotu: no, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[07:41] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: okay
[07:41] <Madpilot> yeah, but NZ is province of Australia, isn't it? :)
[07:41] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: long time ago, of course
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: hahahah
[07:41] <PurpleMotion> of course.
[07:42] <Hobbsee> good idea madpilot...
[07:42] <speel> why is ubuntu so tight about editing menus?
[07:42] <tom1999> i prefer this over windows anyday
[07:42] <PurpleMotion> Kiwi's are cool... I've known a good number
[07:42] <bob2> speel: it's not
[07:42] <tom1999> australia rocks
[07:42] <bob2> swap isn't used for unused programs
[07:42] <tom1999> me from aus
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: the Kiwis call Oz the West Island ;)
[07:42] <Hobbsee> setite, looks like you need to get a little updated
[07:42] <speel> well i mean you can right click and edit
[07:42] <speel> cant
[07:42] <speel> *
[07:42] <bob2> speel: because it has gnome 2.10 with freedesktop.org menus
[07:43] <speel> ooo
[07:43] <speel> ;) dident know that
[07:43] <Hobbsee> *considers installing ubuntu this afternoon*
[07:43] <tom1999> are alll linux distro exzaclty like this
[07:43] <PurpleMotion> bob2:  doesn't the kernel prioritize what stays in physical memory and what can be moved to swap according mainly to how much it's being used?
[07:44] <PurpleMotion> Cause I'm pretty sure it is.
[07:44] <tom1999> if so i way prefer this
[07:44] <setite> i know the way it is now.. but for my purpose it is close enough
[07:44] <Myrtti> tom1999: nope
[07:44] <bob2> PurpleMotion: yes
[07:44] <bob2> PurpleMotion: executables are already on disk, tho
[07:44] <setite> tom1999: linux is evil
[07:44] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: I know how swap is used, but that's .. kind aclose
[07:44] <PurpleMotion> then it is a place to store unused programs while they're idle :D
[07:44] <bob2> so the kernel can throw them away and read fro mthe executable file itself
[07:44] <setite> tom1999: ubuntu is redemption
[07:44] <HrdwrBoB> you can't expect people to know about meory pages
[07:44] <speel> when is a ubuntu for dummies coming out :P
[07:44] <PurpleMotion> I think he meant store them in memory
[07:44] <HrdwrBoB> meory
[07:44] <RemyUbuntu> :-(
[07:45] <HrdwrBoB> memory, stuid kb
[07:45] <tom1999> say what
[07:45] <RemyUbuntu> anyone know much about installing Java jdk ?
[07:45] <tom1999> linux is good
[07:45] <setite> speel.. the wiki is ubuntu for dumbies
[07:45] <tom1999> better than windows
[07:45] <RemyUbuntu> I'm following the instructions, but can't get it to create a .deb file
[07:45] <setite> tom1999: if you ever get fedora.... you will get my drift
[07:45] <speel> yea i know but it would be cool to have a book
[07:45] <tom1999> setite whats fedora.. is it better
[07:45] <setite> when your in the channel you say hey... can i get ntfs...
[07:45] <setite> its horrible
[07:46] <setite> think... ubuntu has ntfs support
[07:46] <tom1999> setite is that the one with Tux Racer
[07:46] <setite> fedora does not...
[07:46] <setite> you have to modify your kernel for it
[07:46] <HrdwrBoB> setite: surely fedora has ntfs support
[07:46] <setite> HrdwrBoB: nope.. you have to add it to the kernel on your own
[07:46] <Madpilot> tom1999: TuxRacer is available for Ubuntu as well...
[07:46] <thoreauputic> !info tuxracer
[07:46] <setite> i had FC3 for about a week
[07:46] <ubotu> tuxracer: (3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-6.4 (hoary), Packaged size: 498 kB, Installed size: 992 kB
[07:47] <thoreauputic> tom1999: ^^^
[07:47] <tom1999> even my download speeds are better
[07:47] <tom1999> i like this
[07:47] <setite> !fedora
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said fedora was what you use when you haven't heard of Ubuntu
[07:47] <setite> ubotu... you are so right
[07:47] <tom1999> where can i get tux racer
[07:47] <thoreauputic> !factinfo fedora
[07:47] <ubotu> fedora -- created by tiglionabbit <~nick@c-67-171-159-205.hsd1.or.comcast.net> at Sat Jul  9 19:34:27 2005 (39 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by setite, 24s ago.
[07:47] <Madpilot> Oh the burn - who put that into ubotu?
[07:48] <setite> haha leave it... its a cool answer
[07:48] <tom1999> does fedora have a live cd's ... is fedora or unbuntu better?
[07:48] <DukGalNamu> is there a program for renaming? other than mv
[07:48] <DukGalNamu> ?
[07:48] <Madpilot> tom1999: open Synaptic & search tuxracer
[07:48] <setite> tom1999: trust me... ubuntu is better
[07:49] <thoreauputic> tom1999: whether you prefer fedora or ubuntu is a matter of taste, mostly
[07:49] <setite> fedora, in my experience, is for people who want an unnecessary challenge
[07:49] <setite> i mean ntfs support...
[07:49] <setite> someone shouldnt have to modify their kernel to get it
[07:49] <vitriol> ntfs read support isn't built into the kernel?
[07:49] <tom1999> this ubuntu runs really nice and smooth on my computer
[07:50] <tom1999> its not slow like windows
[07:50] <setite> !libdvdcss2
[07:50] <ubotu> setite: Are you on ritalin?
[07:50] <PurpleMotion> tom1999:  as is the case with most everybody's
[07:50] <Toba> how can I change the resolution of the initial login screen?
[07:50] <vitriol> ubuntu is slow on my machine :)
[07:50] <vitriol> but i love it anyways
[07:50] <PurpleMotion> tom1999:  hence the extremely rapid growth as a distro
[07:50] <setite> ubotu, no... my parents wouldnt let the doctor put me on it
[07:50] <ubotu> I don't know, setite
[07:50] <Toba> PurpleMotion: yeah, ubuntu is just awesome
[07:50] <PurpleMotion> and it's solid as a rock
[07:50] <setite> i leveled out after a few years though
[07:50] <tom1999> i like it alot
[07:51] <tom1999> download speeds much better
[07:51] <setite> for anyone in here... who is a windows person and thinks linux is slow
[07:51] <Toba> well
[07:51] <Toba> it's slower than my old windows machine by a bit
[07:51] <setite> its not.. it is a trick... windows lets apps open before they are loaded.. whereas linux tends to open the app after it is loaded
[07:51] <Toba> but I have half the ram and worse latency over here
[07:51] <vitriol> i made a reference to ubuntu being slow if my comment is what you are talking about
[07:51] <vitriol> but it's slow for me...
[07:52] <PurpleMotion> double your ram and youll change your mind.. how fast is the proc?
[07:52] <setite> its not slow.... it just appears that way
[07:52] <vitriol> not a bad distro at all on the other boxen
[07:52] <tom1999> im on a 1ghz with 256 megs of ram.. its fast as
[07:52] <Toba> PurpleMotion: 997 mhz
[07:52] <setite> it is why it takes longer to load than windows
[07:52] <Toba> 256 mb rdram
[07:52] <HiThere> Hi. I just install ubuntu and apparently it installed with the wrong resolution
[07:52] <Toba> it's a crappy old box
[07:52] <HiThere> how can I fix that
[07:52] <sss_lr> Toba: you have resolutuon option in menu to control the resolution
[07:52] <Toba> HiThere: I was just asking that
[07:52] <thoreauputic> vitriol: try running multiple heavy apps on each simultaneously
[07:52] <tom1999> cause i dunno if my new machine is supported
[07:52] <PurpleMotion> Toba:  double the ram and kill the swap file
[07:52] <setite> because with windows you see the desktop before its done loading... on linux it loads everything first
[07:52] <Toba> sss_lr: that's my desktop
[07:52] <vitriol> setite: yeah, it just appears that DMA isn't working...nor is power management ;)
[07:52] <Toba> PurpleMotion: heh, I'd do that if I had the money to spend on ram
[07:52] <Toba> but I don't
[07:53] <speel> highvoltage:>> system>prefrences>screen resulution
[07:53] <speel> ah wrong person
[07:53] <Madpilot> !tell vitriol about dma
[07:53] <setite> really
[07:53] <vitriol> to any of you that manage to get ubuntu running properly on an amd64 processor and ati chipset
[07:53] <vitriol> well, now i salute you
[07:53] <setite> my powermanagement is fine
[07:53] <PurpleMotion> yeah right on
[07:53] <PurpleMotion> i hear ya
[07:53] <PurpleMotion> i got 384 in this thing
[07:53] <setite> i watched two whole dvds on the battery last night
[07:53] <Imagix> I'm on an AMD64 under Ubuntu....
[07:53] <setite> and just turn dma on
[07:53] <setite> !dma
[07:53] <HiThere> Hi. I just install ubuntu and apparently it installed with the wrong resolution how can I fix it?
[07:53] <setite> hdparm something
[07:53] <Toba> so
[07:53] <vitriol> Imagix: sorry i should be more specific
[07:53] <vitriol> turion
[07:53] <vitriol> power management doesn't work
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> HiThere: you mean x?
[07:54] <PurpleMotion> MemTotal:       386224 kB
[07:54] <vitriol> setite: i got dma working
[07:54] <kvidell> HiThere: See speel's comment to highvoltag.
[07:54] <Toba> if I set the resolution to 1024x768 using system>pref>res, it will use that for login?
[07:54] <speel> HiThere:>> system>prefrences>screen resulution
[07:54] <Toba> or just me?
[07:54] <setite> oh ok
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> HiThere: try pressing ctrl alt +/-
[07:54] <vitriol> just had a hell of a time getting it working
[07:54] <vitriol> thats all
[07:54] <setite> is it not helping?
[07:54] <Tom-W> hello
[07:54] <HiThere> I can't get into ubuntu
[07:54] <Madpilot> !fixres
[07:54] <ubotu> fixres is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:54] <sss_lr> HiThere: run command xconfig or similar xf86config it will take you through steps
[07:54] <vitriol> setite: yeah
[07:54] <Imagix> Which AMD 64 do you have?
[07:54] <Tom-W> i installed ubuntu and it didn't ask me to choose a root password
[07:54] <vitriol> setite: but there are alot of other problems too :(
[07:54] <vitriol> Imagix: i have a turion
[07:55] <Toba> Tom-W: that's because root doesn't exist
[07:55] <Madpilot> Tom-W: there isn't one by default
[07:55] <Toba> it's weird that way
[07:55] <setite> i have amd64 3000+
[07:55] <speel> good night all
[07:55] <Toba> come to think of it
[07:55] <Toba> how do you set that
[07:55] <Madpilot> !tell Tom-W about root
[07:55] <setite> and a 3400+... both are mobiles
[07:55] <Toba> I've been wondering
[07:55] <Toba> !tell Toba about root
[07:55] <Toba> bah
[07:55] <Tom-W> when i try to rename a file it says i cant
[07:55] <Toba> oh
[07:55] <Toba> query heh
[07:55] <vitriol> setite: i can't begin to describe the huge list of problems i have with this computer under *any* distribution
[07:55] <RemyUbuntu> gggrrrr
[07:55] <RemyUbuntu> damn it
[07:55] <HiThere> I know there's a command to change the resolution, but I don't know what it is. I can't get into ubuntu because of the resolution
[07:55] <RemyUbuntu> ok, all I need now is to know how to add stuff to the path properly...
[07:55] <Madpilot> Toba: starting a line with ! summons the bot
[07:56] <RemyUbuntu> I've found about 5 different places where path's are specified.
[07:56] <RemyUbuntu> but I can't find which one actually works!
[07:56] <Toba> Madpilot: thanks.
[07:56] <Imagix> Hmm... I'm on an AMD64 FX-53, and when powernowd starts up (at least during the initial console), it explicitly states that the FX-53 isn't supported...
[07:56] <sss_lr> HiThere: run xf86config
[07:56] <vitriol> HiThere: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <PurpleMotion> (01:55:59) chnkytim42: gonn GET DRINK THEN TOO
[07:56] <Tom-W> is there xconfigurator command ?
[07:56] <setite> tom1999 you stil ther?
[07:56] <Madpilot> !tell Toba about ubotu
[07:56] <PurpleMotion> 01:56:07) chnkytim42: drink
[07:56] <PurpleMotion> (01:56:12) chnkytim42: drunk
[07:56] <PurpleMotion> LOL
[07:56] <PurpleMotion> (I quit)
[07:56] <Toba> heh
[07:56] <thoreauputic> RemyUbuntu: /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:56] <Toba> I know what a bot is
[07:56] <Toba> I've been using IRC for years
[07:57] <Tom-W> if i run xf86config it ask me for a password
[07:57] <vitriol> any of you have kernel panics when you start gnome?
[07:57] <vitriol> it only happens when i start gnome
[07:57] <vitriol> pretty weird
[07:57] <Tom-W> and it didn't ask me to set up a root password
[07:57] <vitriol> Tom-W: ubuntu uses sudo
[07:57] <Madpilot> Tom-W: use your own password
[07:58] <RemyHome> thoreauputic
[07:58] <RemyHome> what do I add in there ?
[07:58] <RemyHome> there's no PATH info in there...
[07:58] <sss_lr> vitriol : did you installed diffrent kernel image or kernel?
[07:58] <vitriol> sss_lr: yeah
[07:58] <vitriol> sss_lr: 2.6.11
[07:58] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: have a look in /etc/profile and you should see your existing $PATH - in fact changing it there might work too
[07:58] <sss_lr> vitriol : selected [proper
[07:58] <vitriol> sss_lr: dma wouldn't work in 2.6.10
[07:59] <vitriol> that's why
[07:59] <vitriol> i followed the dma wiki instructinos
[07:59] <vitriol> it didn't work....
[07:59] <sss_lr> vitriol : okay
[07:59] <vitriol> it's probably cause of the ati chipset
[07:59] <sss_lr> vitriol : disable it in bios and try
[07:59] <vitriol> disable what?
[07:59] <sss_lr> dma
[08:00] <vitriol> sss_lr: if i disable dma in the bios, that'll mean crappy disc writes
[08:00] <RemyHome> hm
[08:00] <vitriol> sss_lr: i *want* dma
[08:00] <RemyHome> is there a way to reset the PATH back to system default ?
[08:00] <vitriol> unless i'm missing something
[08:00] <sss_lr> vitriol : okay
[08:00] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: note that the first one is for root (uid 0 )
[08:00] <RemyHome> k
[08:00] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: why are you messing with the global PATH ?
[08:00] <RemyHome> for some reason when I type $PATH into the shell it always ends with: No such file or directory
[08:00] <azriel0184> can ubuntu read UFS partitions?
[08:01] <vitriol> RemyHome: echo $PATH
[08:01] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: hahah   echo $PATH
[08:01] <vitriol> ?
[08:01] <RemyHome> rofl
[08:01] <RemyHome> l :)
[08:01] <RemyHome> k :)
[08:01] <IceDC571> is anyone here using the new breezy?
[08:01] <vitriol> IceDC571: i'm attempting to upgrade to breezy right now
[08:01] <vitriol> IceDC571: why?
[08:02] <vitriol> IceDC571: i tried the daily breezy build cd (from yesterday) and it installed and wouldn't boot up afterwards
[08:02] <thoreauputic> RemyHome:  A+ for effort :)
[08:02] <IceDC571> vitriol, well... i just did a clean install with colony 3 release and the install script hangs after i reboot
[08:02] <vitriol> IceDC571: yeah that was exactly my problem
[08:03] <vitriol> post-install is broken somehow
[08:03] <IceDC571> vitriol, yeah.. so im stuck, i dont know what to do. have any suggestions?
[08:03] <vitriol> but if you ask about breezy in here the only answer you get is 'uhhh....uhhh....uh....WHY ARe YOU TRYING TO USe BReeZY!?!?!'
[08:03] <vitriol> IceDC571: you can try what i'm doing right now
[08:03] <vitriol> and use hoary
[08:04] <vitriol> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:04] <IceDC571> i see
[08:04] <RemyHome> aw :-(
[08:04] <RemyHome> I added it to /etc/profile
[08:04] <RemyHome> but it hasn't added it to the $PATH
[08:04] <RemyHome> will it require a restart ?
[08:04] <vitriol> source /etc/profile
[08:04] <IceDC571> well everyone here is like breezy is so stable.. no problems at all, i wonder if they upgraded from hoary
[08:04] <vitriol> ?
[08:04] <setite> seriously... there is no reason to use the next version unless you want the pain
[08:05] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: try   source /etc/profile && echo $PATH
[08:05] <vitriol> IceDC571: dunno
[08:05] <setite> its hard enough to use the official release... the "stable" versions
[08:05] <Flonne> Breezy is broken. Really.
[08:05] <setite> why doesnt chm2web work with firefox
[08:05] <TheGnome> you guys are gonna be mad at me
[08:05] <IceDC571> well the only reason im using breezy is because i want to compile a lot of bleeding edge apps that require a lot of software breezy has
[08:05] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: log out, log in and see if it appears
[08:05] <Flonne> (At least on amd64)
[08:05] <RemyHome> weeeee
[08:05] <IceDC571> that was neat
[08:05] <RemyHome> got split :P
[08:05] <setite> yay server split!!!!
[08:06] <IceDC571> thats the first split i've seen in #ubuntu
[08:06] <Tom-W> thanks for the sudo tip it worked!!!!!!
[08:06] <vitriol> IceDC571: i just want my hardware to work....
[08:06] <vitriol> ;)
[08:06] <Madpilot> that's the second split from zelany in the last few hours...
[08:06] <vitriol> Tom-W: if you don't like sudo you can always do sudo su
[08:06] <Madpilot> *zelazny
[08:06] <vitriol> then passwd
[08:06] <vitriol> sometimes it's good to be root
[08:07] <setite> IceDC571: first ive seen in LONGF time
[08:07] <vitriol> </2 cents>
[08:07] <Madpilot> Tom-W: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:07] <setite> that means we're getting popular!!!! yaya
[08:07] <IceDC571> actually yeah, that is the first split i've seen in a long time
[08:07] <RemyHome> question: what is sudo ?
[08:07] <Toba> argh
[08:07] <TheGnome> can someone give me a copy of there sudoers file
[08:08] <vitriol> sudo: nothing appropriate.
[08:08] <vitriol> bah
[08:08] <kvidell> %admin ALL = ALL (ALL)
[08:08] <kvidell> I think that's the only line in mine
[08:08] <Madpilot> sudo = "superuser do" - thanks to google...
[08:08] <kvidell> I'm not able to get on my ubuntu box
[08:09] <vitriol> RemyHome: well sudo lets regular users have root privileges temporarily to execute only specific commands
[08:09] <RemyHome> k
[08:09] <TheGnome> i got it
[08:09] <TheGnome> thanks
[08:10] <TheGnome> nice
[08:10] <tristanmike> can anyone help me with a theme issue?
[08:10] <azriel0184> does anyone know if ubuntu can read UFD partitions?
[08:10] <vitriol> UFD?
[08:10] <azriel0184> *UFS
[08:10] <vitriol> you mean...o
[08:10] <vitriol> oh
[08:10] <vitriol> well
[08:10] <vitriol> i can tell you that the l inux kernel has read support for UFS
[08:10] <bob2> sure it can
[08:11] <bob2> writing to them is not safe, afaik
[08:11] <vitriol> yeah
[08:11] <bob2> and reading is a tad broken for some variants
[08:11] <vitriol> thats correct
[08:11] <setite> how do i check my cpu speed to confirm whether it is scaling up when im in AC mode and down in batter
[08:11] <RemyHome> thoreauputic
[08:11] <bob2> e.g. OS X UFS seemed kinda messed up in the past
[08:11] <RemyHome> didn't add it :(
[08:11] <vitriol> setite: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:11] <bob2> setite: but default it doesn't do that
[08:11] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: I just tried it here - it adds it
[08:11] <IceDC571> vitriol, well.. are you upgrading to breezy soon?
[08:11] <david> :-(
[08:11] <bob2> setite: gnome has a nice little cpufrequency monitor, tho
[08:11] <azriel0184> ok, time to pull out my usb drive and make a backup before switching then...
[08:11] <david> where did you add it ?
[08:11] <vitriol> IceDC571: yes...right now
[08:11] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: but why?
[08:12] <david> I added it to the etc/profile
[08:12] <IceDC571> vitriol, let me know how it works out
[08:12] <vitriol> setite: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Mhz
[08:12] <vitriol> IceDC571: last time i tried this it broke either python or perl
[08:12] <Prowl3r> Hey everyone
[08:12] <vitriol> IceDC571: and consequently broke apt
[08:12] <vitriol> couldn't use apt
[08:12] <RemyUbunutu> thoreauputic, I added it to etc/profile
[08:12] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: you edited the right line, I hope? Not the first one
[08:12] <RemyUbunutu> Yeah, the second one
[08:13] <RemyUbunutu> not the one where ID == 0
[08:13] <n1xt3r> vitriol: useless use of cat - try grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo
[08:13] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: why are you doing this, if I may ask?
[08:13] <RemyUbunutu> cause I've manually installed JDK (JAva Development Kit)
[08:13] <vitriol> n1xt3r: yeah...you got me :)
[08:13] <RemyUbunutu> and now I want to add the directory to the path so I don't have to type the full path
[08:13] <RemyUbunutu> for compiling / running
[08:14] <IceDC571> bob2, do you happen to know how to kill a virtual console?
[08:14] <setite> ok its not going up
[08:14] <bob2> IceDC571: why would you want to do that?
[08:14] <setite> the cpu speed
[08:14] <RemyUbunutu> thoreauputic, this is the same as RemyHome  :)
[08:14] <vitriol> setite: what proc you have?
[08:14] <bob2> setite: o na default install, it will be unaffected b ythe power status
[08:14] <RemyUbunutu> just running on the actual machine with ubuntu on it...
[08:14] <setite> amd 64 3000+ true mobile
[08:15] <setite> oh.. bob2 do i need to enable acpi
[08:15] <IceDC571> well for some reason whenever i restart my computer it goes straight into virtual console #2 and it runs apt-get which hangs on virtual console #1
[08:15] <vitriol> setite: there is no powe rmanagement support for amd64 yet
[08:15] <vitriol> sorry :(
[08:15] <bob2> setite: no
[08:15] <setite> vitriol: are you serious
[08:15] <thoreauputic> RemyUbunutu: well, I know in the past I've added it to /etc/bash.bashrc with success - I think you could try just pasting the line in there and test again
[08:15] <setite> thats crap
[08:15] <bob2> setite: it will rise and fall depending on how much cpu your programs require
[08:15] <vitriol> setite: actually
[08:15] <vitriol> setite: i'm wrong
[08:15] <bob2> vitriol: er, are yo usure about that?
[08:15] <vitriol> setite: there is no cpu frequency scaling for amd64 procs yet....i think
[08:15] <bob2> setite: if you want it to depend on the power status, install cpufreqd
[08:15] <setite> ok so when im gaming it will go up?
[08:16] <vitriol> setite: but then again, i'm not *sure*
[08:16] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: er,, yes there i
[08:16] <HrdwrBoB> s
[08:16] <bob2> setite: if your computer supports it, yes
[08:16] <bob2> setite: why don't you just try it already?
[08:16] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: is it just the turions?
[08:16] <setite> try what
[08:16] <HrdwrBoB> I have it working on my 3200+ desktop
[08:16] <HrdwrBoB> and several dual opterons
[08:16] <oceandead> i cant run the foomatic gui to start configuring so i can print over lan
[08:16] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: can you use powernowd?
[08:16] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: yes
[08:16] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: it doesn't work on my turion
[08:16] <oceandead> it keeps telling me wrong password
[08:17] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: if it says it won't start due to something blah lbah
[08:17] <Carpe_Libertatem> You can install TTF fonts in Linux?
[08:17] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: when i unplug my power the cpu doesn't scale down to 800mhz like it should
[08:17] <HrdwrBoB> it's wrong, it's  a cobbled together shell script
[08:17] <setite> bob2: try what
[08:17] <HrdwrBoB> install powernow-k8
[08:17] <HrdwrBoB> (module)
[08:17] <HrdwrBoB> iirc
[08:17] <vitriol> o_0
[08:17] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: is that an amd64 only module?
[08:18] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: i'm running 32 bit
[08:18] <oceandead> but its the correct pw im positive...maybe the pw is too long for foomatic?
[08:18] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: of course. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[08:18] <setite> so cpufreqd or powernow
[08:18] <setite> or both
[08:19] <vitriol> wow i hope i'm completely wrong about this....that'll be great news!
[08:19] <vitriol> now if they just made a 64 bit driver for my bcm4318 :(
[08:20] <setite> vitriol: if your not wrong i may have to start looking for a new distro
[08:20] <vitriol> setite: if it doesn't work it's not ubuntu's fault
[08:20] <vitriol> it's the linux kernel.....
[08:20] <vitriol> unless another distro is using a newer kernel that has better support
[08:21] <Tom_W> its Ubuntu's falt that root is toatle screwd up !!!!!!
[08:21] <sss_lr> Carpe_Libertatem: run command fonts:/// and copy your fonts
[08:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> ok, thanks
[08:22] <bronco> how do I update the kernel headers?
[08:22] <oceandead> how is it screwed up
[08:23] <vitriol> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[08:23] <vitriol> i think
[08:23] <vitriol> or something close to that
[08:23] <Tom_W> it should let you choose a root password
[08:23] <oceandead> it does
[08:23] <Tom_W> where?
[08:23] <vitriol> oops
[08:23] <setite> ok so cpufreqd removes powernow
[08:23] <vitriol> thats linux-headers
[08:23] <bob2> bronco: update?
[08:23] <iiiears> Wow Microsoft Genuine Advantage is going to check for virutal machines and fail to patch/upgrade when found.
[08:23] <thoreauputic> bronco: or sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  (same thing really)
[08:23] <oceandead> not recommended to have separate root login
[08:23] <setite> and i dont see powernow-k8
[08:23] <bob2> do not screw with the linux-kernel-headers package
[08:24] <bob2> or you will break your system terribly
[08:24] <IceDC571> vitriol, omg.. i got the post-install script to work again
[08:24] <vitriol> IceDC571: breezy just worked for me :D
[08:24] <vitriol> i'm running breezy now!
[08:24] <IceDC571> vitriol, did you just upgrade it from hoary?
[08:24] <RemyHome> thoreauputic we have a winner!
[08:24] <vitriol> IceDC571: yes
[08:24] <oceandead> is there a new wlan applet in breezy?
[08:24] <Madpilot> Tom_W: Ubuntu uses sudo rather than root, by default...
[08:24] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: aha
[08:24] <vitriol> Tom_W: sudo su
[08:24] <vitriol> Tom_W: then passwd
[08:25] <vitriol> you can set a root password
[08:25] <RemyHome> just restarting to make sure it works :D
[08:25] <RemyHome> thanks for your help mate
[08:25] <vitriol> then log in as root or su - as you are used to
[08:25] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: only thing I thought of is whether that changes the root path as well
[08:25] <kameron> i just did a fresh install on my primary slave drive, windows is on primary master.. i installed the 5.04 AMD64 version.. and after installation, grub left me at a prompt, instead of a regular grub menu.. i installed the bootloader at the MBR. why is this happening, is there a fix? should i try the x86 version?
[08:25] <RemyHome> probably :P
[08:25] <bob2> oceandead: doesn't look like network manager will be useful byu then
[08:25] <IceDC571> vitriol, well.. i think i might of found a workaround for fixing the post-install script so lets see if breezy will work after this
[08:25] <IceDC571> i'll brb
[08:26] <oceandead> doh! v
[08:26] <enya> hi i cannot create user accounts on ubuntu. i'm new to all this. can anyone help pls?
[08:27] <oceandead> hey i appreciate the effort anyway there are gap fillers in the meantime
[08:27] <setite> ok whats the final word on what i need to get the best scaling on my laptop
[08:27] <setite> i just want to ensure that when im gaming.... it scales to full speed
[08:27] <oceandead> though they dont seem to work too well on my particular system...i can deal for now
[08:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> What
[08:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[08:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's the best way to upgrade Firefox in Ubuntu?
[08:28] <RemyHome> hm, dunno if i've broken other stuff though :P
[08:28] <RemyHome> me has a play...
[08:28] <wickedpuppy> anyone got experience with using skype in ubuntu ?? i can't record my voice
[08:28] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:28] <oceandead> i think theres a bug in foomatic-gui ...when i try to start it it says that password is wrong, but im putting in the correct password, i think it just may be too long for foomatic-gui
[08:28] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: 1.0.6 is in hoary...
[08:28] <wickedpuppy> !soundinput
[08:28] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:29] <setite> is mozilla-firefox different than firefox
[08:29] <setite> the packages
[08:29] <oceandead> when i try to start it from terminal i get a separate error
[08:29] <bob2> setite: it's called firefox in breezy, mozilla-firefox in hoary
[08:29] <Carpe_Libertatem> I have Ubuntu 5.04, but Firefox is version 1.02
[08:29] <oceandead> i will paste the error in flood if someone would please take a look it would be much appreciated
[08:30] <bob2> Carpe_Libertatem: then update
[08:30] <Carpe_Libertatem> How? =P
[08:30] <bob2> eh?
[08:30] <bob2> the installer asked you if you wanted to let apt download updates
[08:30] <RemyHome> thoreauputic, winner indeed :) nothing broken !!!! w00t
[08:30] <RemyHome> :D
[08:30] <thoreauputic> RemyHome: cool :)
[08:30] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I download updates now?
[08:31] <oceandead> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:31] <bob2> or use synaptic
[08:31] <bob2> or aptitude
[08:31] <oceandead> and then theres the gui package update manager
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> !audiodoesn't dist-upgrade upgrade the whole distro to next version ?
[08:31] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:32] <oceandead> system>administration>ubuntu update manager
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade the whole distro to next version ?
[08:32] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: not unless you change hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:33] <volvoguy> i'm having some luck with colony 3 on this Toshiba laptop, but i've run into a screen i've never seen before.
[08:33] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: or warty to hoary etc
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> i ask cause Carpe_Libertatem just want to update his firefox ..
[08:33] <Stutter> i have a question.  Is breezy out already?  I just got the CDs I ordered but they were Hoary...
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> anyway i got problem with my audio input ... any suggestion ??
[08:34] <HrdwrBoB> Stutter: not yet
[08:34] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: yes, but dst-upgrade will just update his hoary install
[08:34] <thoreauputic> *dist
[08:34] <HrdwrBoB> Stutter: two months
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> Stutter, try /topic
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> ah nvm
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> i think we are not thinking the same thing thoreauputic
[08:34] <IceDC571> vitriol, so did you just change your sources to display breezy instead of hoary?
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> anyway any idea about audio input ?
[08:35] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: ?
[08:35] <volvoguy> it actually recognized my wireless hardware and network (i was quite surprised) but the partitioner only offers me two options - "configure software raid" and "configure the logical volume manager".
[08:35] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: if he does a dist-upgrade it will upgrade everything including mozilla-firefox
[08:35] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: oops :)
[08:35] <HrdwrBoB> sounds broken
[08:35] <HrdwrBoB> back out to the main menu
[08:35] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: just upgrade would suffice though
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> i know but i am not sure he wants to upgrade everything you see
[08:36] <volvoguy> both options warn that changes to the physical disk won't be possible if i continue (and i need to resize the existing NTFS partition).
[08:36] <Stutter> oki, thanks
[08:36] <Stutter> is Breezy stable though?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: in that case he could just do  apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:36] <setite> HrdwrBoB: can i pm you
[08:36] <Stutter> what version of gnome does breezy have?
[08:36] <HrdwrBoB> setite: just ask here
[08:36] <HrdwrBoB> setite: that wasy other people can learn and other people can help too
[08:36] <volvoguy> Stutter, i wouldn't use it on a primary machine yet.
[08:36] <setite> well what is the best app for my laptop
[08:37] <setite> i keep asking but i keep getting sidetracked
[08:37] <volvoguy> what kind of app are you looking for setite?
[08:37] <kameron> what the gay, grub is gay, i want lilo.
[08:37] <setite> so i dont see if its getting answered
[08:37] <HrdwrBoB> I'm not entirely sure
[08:37] <setite> well i dont like that my cpu doesnt scale when plugged in
[08:38] <vitriol> anybody know what the deal is with breezy? hda1 not found when booting up
[08:38] <oceandead> so install lilo
[08:38] <setite> but since im in a car right now... its a blessing... allows my battery to charge fast
[08:38] <vitriol> is there a quick fix for this?
[08:38] <oceandead> its on the cd ...
[08:38] <HrdwrBoB> kameron: whinging nitching and moaning pointlessly is for #elsewhere
[08:38] <HrdwrBoB> *bitching
[08:38] <oceandead> afaik, anyway
[08:38] <setite> but i want to make sure that i can switch it on or off if i have to
[08:38] <thoreauputic> kameron: so install lilo - have fun
[08:38] <kameron> well, i did ask a question earliar, but nobody answered.
[08:38] <HrdwrBoB> setite: loading the module powernow-k8
[08:38] <setite> like in windows int eh power manager i can set it to laptop mode or ac mode
[08:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> I am trying to run a configure file for a MUD and I get an error "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executabes."
[08:38] <HrdwrBoB> setite: will scale the CPU based purely on what you're doing
[08:38] <setite> ok.... where is that.... because i dont see it on the repo
[08:38] <wickedpuppy> vitriol, pls read the topic
[08:38] <HrdwrBoB> setite: it's a module
[08:38] <setite> oh
[08:39] <HrdwrBoB> sudo modprobe powernow-k8
[08:39] <setite> well as long as its not buggy... because City Of Heroes needs like 80% of the cpu
[08:39] <vitriol> wickedpuppy: if somebody asks me 'not to use breezy' again i'm going to kill an innocent kitten
[08:39] <volvoguy> vitriol, amen!
[08:39] <setite> and it runs a little badly on linux.;... and im not sure if im not getting proper scaling or if its just b ad
[08:39] <HrdwrBoB> setite: it works perfectly all the times I've used it
[08:39] <oceandead> i have a feeling this printer thing isnt going to happen...bbiab
[08:40] <HrdwrBoB> setite: the detault CPU speed is full speed
[08:40] <volvoguy> vitriol, colony 3 i assume?
[08:41] <vitriol> volvoguy: i just changed my sources.list from hoary to breezy
[08:41] <vitriol> volvoguy: and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:41] <vitriol> volvoguy: it worked fine till i rebooted with the new 2.6.12 kernel :)
[08:41] <volvoguy> vitriol, with colony 2 i was having that issue with intel's software raid stuff.
[08:41] <kvidell> hm
[08:42] <vitriol> volvoguy: i'm using a turion + ati chopset
[08:42] <kvidell> Anyone in here good with circuitry and stuff? (EE majors?)
[08:42] <vitriol> dunno if it's a hardware problem
[08:42] <vitriol> or a bug
[08:42] <volvoguy> vitriol, hmm.. that's weird. sata hard drive?
[08:42] <vitriol> volvoguy: nope just ide
[08:42] <Prowl3r> vitriol last night I tried 2.6.11 didn't go too well :(
[08:42] <vitriol> Prowl3r: yeah i've heard alot of people say they've had problems with 2.6.11
[08:43] <vitriol> Prowl3r: so far 2.6.11 has been the only one of the kernels that's worked well for me
[08:43] <volvoguy> vitriol, really weird. i did a hoary to breezy upgrade on an old box i use for testing and haven't run into that issue. maybe i should try rebooting it. :-|
[08:43] <vitriol> eek
[08:43] <Prowl3r> wow you're lucky
[08:43] <vitriol> or whatever it's called
[08:44] <volvoguy> vitriol, you're at a command prompt and hda1 isn't found?
[08:45] <tristanmike> can someone please help me
[08:45] <bob2> so
[08:46] <bob2> you haven't asked your question
[08:46] <tristanmike> they are in my usr/share/themes directory, but not listed in my System-Preferences-Themes
[08:46] <bob2> so if someone wants to try to help, they have to scroll back and find out where you actually asked it
[08:46] <ubuntu122> im new to ubuntu...i just installed it now...what is the root password....the installer didnt ask me ??
[08:46] <bob2> don't put them there
[08:46] <bob2> ubuntu122: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:46] <bob2> ubuntu122: the installer explained it all to you
[08:46] <ubuntu122> ok thnx
[08:46] <tristanmike> bob2: I installed metacity-themes pack via synaptic, but can't use any of the themes
[08:47] <bob2> "package"
[08:47] <tristanmike> yes
[08:47] <bob2> do you know where they would be listed?
[08:47] <bob2> it's not in the themes dialog
[08:47] <tristanmike> they are in my usr/share/themes directory, but not listed in my System-Preferences-Themes
[08:47] <bob2> correct
[08:47] <tristanmike> so how do I use them?
[08:48] <tristanmike> I tried to copy/paste the original folders into my ./Themes directory to no avail
[08:48] <volvoguy> next question. since i'm in uncharted territory with colony 3 and i have a canonical laptop, should i go to the dev channel or just add this to my bug (as i don't know how to proceed)?
[08:48] <Stutter> how do i install firefox themes I downloaded(.jar files)?
[08:48] <bob2> themes->themes details->window border->select
[08:48] <bob2> volvoguy: bug
[08:48] <Dreamer3> any xfce users here?
[08:48] <volvoguy> bob2, okey dokey. bug it is. :)
[08:49] <Dreamer3> how can i get my gnome terminal back to "normal" font sizes when running under xfce?
[08:49] <tristanmike> bob2: I can't thank you enough, it is very late here and I've been trying to figure this one out, damn I'm stupid, I'm sorry
[08:50] <bob2> not stupid
[08:50] <ubuntu122> is ubuntu is suitable for production server?
[08:50] <fabbione> ubuntu122: generally yes..
[08:51] <tristanmike> bob2: I ALWAYS seem to overlook the obvious, but thanks again for taking the time to point me in the right direction, I'm gonna have to update a thread and help another guy out who is having the same problem
[08:51] <ubuntu122> fabbione: what do u mean generally?
[08:51] <setite> fabbione!!!!! 
[08:52] <jsgotangco> ubuntu122, it works as a server
[08:52] <fabbione> ubuntu122: that we support only a set of servers.. apache2 postfix.. the ones in main. If you need software that it is in universe, it might not be as good as the one in main. Less quality check basically
[08:52] <fabbione> setite...
[08:53] <fabbione> ubuntu122: but clearly it is suitable for servers.. otherwise it would be stupid from us to provide a server install target :-)
[08:53] <Dreamer3> anyone?
[08:54] <srijith_away> ubuntu122, in short if you need apps that use packages like php4-mysql you might be on your own
[08:54] <setite> fabbione: i just remember you from warty.. you had a little webpage that helped me do something... i forgot what
[08:55] <fabbione> setite: meh.. that was a long time ago...
[08:55] <fabbione> setite: probably ipv6?
[08:55] <Myrtti> in a galaxy far far away
[08:55] <setite> maybe...
[08:55] <setite> dont recall...
[08:55] <setite> i didnt stick with linux back then... it was too frustrating
[08:56] <fabbione> setite: glad to see you back
[08:56] <setite> :)
[08:56] <setite> i think i hear gunshots
[08:56] <setite> that was odd
[08:59] <volvoguy> hey fabbione, are you familiar enough with the colony 3 installer to give me a hand with my canonical laptop? (either here or over in the laptop channel)
[09:00] <t4k3r0n> Alguien habla espaol? .... somebody talk spanish?
[09:01] <Madpilot> !es
[09:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:02] <Madpilot> setite: you a cop?
[09:02] <t4k3r0n> thanks :D
[09:03] <ookla> crimsun, you here?
[09:04] <crimsun> ookla: pong
[09:04] <fabbione> volvoguy: no sorry.. i had/have some bw issues and i didn't even get to rsync colony 3
[09:04] <ookla> crimsun, :)
[09:04] <setite> Madpilot: no... security guard
[09:04] <fabbione> volvoguy: better you ask directly to -laptop
[09:04] <setite> Madpilot: i would never be a cop
[09:04] <ookla> crimsun, heard you were the sound guru here?
[09:04] <oceandead> doh no luck still same error
[09:05] <setite> Madpilot: if i were a cop i would be required by law, while on duty, to go check it out... poor cops
[09:05] <Madpilot> setite: forgot you mentioned security work earlier
[09:05] <KiD_iCARCUS> question, what program would you guys recommend ripping my audio cds for backing purposes and able to encode them using lame?
[09:05] <crimsun> ookla: not a guru, but what's up?
[09:05] <oceandead> who wants to help me print to a shared printer over lan
[09:05] <setite> no problem
[09:05] <setite> whats a canonical laptop
[09:05] <bob2> KiD_iCARCUS: I wouldn't recommend encoding them with lame if it's for backup purposes
[09:05] <setite> does canonical have hardware?
[09:06] <Madpilot> Canonical gave out a bunch of laptops just recently
[09:06] <bob2> setite: Canonical the company gave out some laptops for people to test
[09:06] <oceandead> does my ubuntu laptop count as a canonical laptop?
[09:06] <oceandead> darn guess not
[09:06] <volvoguy> ok. thanks fabbione.
[09:06] <oceandead> ;)
[09:06] <ookla> crimsun, cannot get sound working on this comp, with ubuntu BUT knoppix finds it fine?
[09:06] <crimsun> ookla: cat /proc/asound/cards -> #flood
[09:06] <Madpilot> oceandead: you can still help with laptop testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[09:06] <volvoguy> oceandead, yours is "powered by canonical". :)
[09:06] <oceandead> hehehe true
[09:07] <oceandead> ill check that out now madpilot
[09:07] <bob2> "Powered by the blood of Canonical employees."
[09:07] <oceandead> hahaha
[09:07] <volvoguy> hehe
[09:07] <Madpilot> cool ;)
[09:07] <volvoguy> that's not literal is it? should i be wearing latex gloves?
[09:08] <oceandead> darn, gotta get mozilla-psm first ...
[09:10] <oceandead> thoreauputic, that was pretty darn funny
[09:10] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:10] <oceandead> hehehe
[09:12] <cafuego> the problem with canonical employees...
[09:12] <cafuego> .. is that they're FAR too stringy
[09:12] <bjv> is there a way to make a bootdisk with the ubuntu live cd?
[09:13] <bjv> id need a disk image with support for old cdroms, but i dont see any on it.
[09:13] <cafuego> bjv: is debootstrap installed on the livecd?
[09:13] <bjv> i dont know, it's a 5.04 ubuntu disk,
[09:14] <srijith> thoreauputic: quick fluxbox question.. how did you make the menu item for reboot and shutdown? Using su-to-root? or xterm -e 'sudo...'?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> srijith: I didn't - I just logout - or have I misunderstood your question?
[09:15] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I get a compiler installed in Ubuntu capable of creating executables?
[09:16] <bjv> it is something like 'apt-get install build-essential'
[09:16] <srijith> thoreauputic: shutdown and reboot? logout is just fine.
[09:16] <crimsun> ookla: please paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:16] <cafuego> Carpe_Libertatem: 'build-essential'
[09:16] <setite> who thinks linux is a true substitute for windows'
[09:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> k
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: install the build-essential package
[09:16] <cafuego> Carpe_Libertatem: ask ubotu about 'compiling'
[09:17] <ookla> crimsun, amixer (what command)?
[09:17] <thoreauputic> srijith: if I want to shutdown or reboot I either type the command or log out and do it from gdm
[09:17] <ompaul> whats the report on colony3 good bad or other?
[09:17] <crimsun> ookla: just ,,amixer''
[09:17] <srijith> haa ok..
[09:17] <ookla> crimsun, ok
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ookla: I haven't rebooted for 56 days anyway ;)
[09:18] <cafuego> setite: it's not. It lacks the integrated support for crashes, worms, viruses and easy trashing of critical system files.
[09:18] <thoreauputic> bah sorry ookla
[09:18] <setite> interesting... never had those problems
[09:18] <thoreauputic> srijith: my comment to ookla was for you
[09:18] <ookla> thoreauputic, woot :)
[09:18] <setite> i miss the it just works feel
[09:18] <setite> i want wmp9 to work
[09:19] <setite> im dying to get it to work
[09:19] <srijith> thoreauputic: that helps I guess :)
[09:19] <cafuego> setite: Email microsoft and get them to free the codec specs.
[09:19] <setite> haha right... thats gonna happen
[09:19] <Madpilot> cafuego: "integrated support" indeed!
[09:19] <ompaul> well heres one for ya - 3 minutes after starting a torrent to get the livecd version nothing - zippo not a bit or a byte ...
[09:19] <setite> but i really dont get it... if they allow mac users to use it... why not do it for linux
[09:19] <davro> i do not miss the, it just work but also lets the whole world know its working feel.
[09:20] <setite> ompaul: yea im not liking torrents on linux so far
[09:20] <ompaul> setite, because they want Linux users to use Microsoft
[09:20] <Madpilot> setite: $$$$ - Apple pays, I bet
[09:20] <cafuego> setite: They'd admit Linux was a real, useful OS for end users. They can't do that.
[09:20] <setite> Madpilot: yea that might be it
[09:20] <ompaul> setite, I do and have done for some time now I will http/ftp grab it and offer it out
[09:20] <setite> cafuego: maybe in their minds that would be what they were doing
[09:21] <setite> ompaul: what?
[09:21] <cafuego> setite: Are you implying they have those? ;-)
[09:21] <ookla> crimsun, you see the paste?
[09:21] <setite> cafuego: not logical ones... but money hungry ones
[09:21] <ompaul> setite, I do and have done ubuntu / kanotix torrents this is the first failure
[09:22] <setite> cafuego: from a businessman's perspective you must admire what they did
[09:22] <setite> have you seen the lawsuit amd has filed
[09:22] <arphetic> Hello
[09:23] <setite> read up on the lawsuit
[09:23] <ompaul> setite, what admire a company for abusing its monopoly (or significant player) status in the market place to close off competition - no I despise that kind of behaviour
[09:23] <Madpilot> setite: the one against Intel?
[09:23] <HrdwrBoB> linux is not a substitute for winwows
[09:23] <arphetic> Im wondering why i cant install XMMS <_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1354
[09:23] <setite> Madpilot: yes...
[09:23] <HrdwrBoB> substitute implies you would prefer the other
[09:23] <HrdwrBoB> and default to the other
[09:23] <ompaul> HrdwrBoB, it is a suitable replacement :)
[09:23] <setite> ompaul: all that in plain sight
[09:24] <HrdwrBoB> ompaul: for my purposes it is an inherently superior replacement
[09:24] <crimsun> ookla: sec
[09:24] <HrdwrBoB> arphetic: why are you compiling xmms
[09:24] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I see my local IP addy in Ubuntu?
[09:24] <srijith> can anyone suggest a no nonsense MP3+/ogg player for Linux, along the likes of Foobar2000 for windows?
[09:24] <ompaul> HrdwrBoB, hey now, come on, thats a given
[09:24] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:24] <HrdwrBoB> in any case I have to go
[09:24] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: ifconfig
[09:24] <srijith> not xmms please :)
[09:24] <setite> the only thing they did that i despise is how they illegally used AMD to further themselves and subsequentially almost destroyed amd... while not following the rule to have amd be the secondary creator of the processor
[09:24] <ookla> Carpe_Libertatem, ifconfig in a console
[09:24] <cafuego> setite: I have no time for lawsuits (or alwyers)
[09:25] <setite> a trick that backfired and forced amd to creat their own superior platform
[09:25] <setite> whoops
[09:25] <setite> i mean intel vs amd.. not microsoft
[09:25] <arphetic> HrdwrBoB, im trying to install it ;)
[09:25] <setite> haha i keep getting it in my head that they are the same company
[09:25] <kvidell> setite: me too
[09:25] <cafuego> setite: Linux already IS a superior platform. YOU are the one insisting on using inferior technology on it (wm9)
[09:25] <kvidell> Microsoft -> Intel. nVidia -> AMD is usually what I do
[09:25] <thoreauputic> srijith: no-nonsense mp3 player --->  mpg321 /path/to/file.mp3  ;-)
[09:26] <setite> cafuego: i am merely insisting that i need to be able to do everything on it... like listen to xm radio online
[09:26] <setite> which i cant because their is no support on linux FF for it
[09:26] <srijith> thoreauputic: I do need to add 20~30 odd songs into the player at one go and not pass them one by one
[09:26] <cafuego> setite: Why would a superior OS need to include inferior technolgies?
[09:26] <Madpilot> srijith: not familiar with Foobar for Win, but try Muine for music
[09:26] <crimsun> ookla: oh, there's a simple workaround for your issue in Hoary.
[09:26] <cafuego> setite: Tell xm radio to update!
[09:26] <setite> kvidell: thats a little screwy.. nvidia? your getting confused
[09:27] <crimsun> ookla: amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off
[09:27] <setite> cafuego: you must know how hard it would be...
[09:27] <srijith> Madpilot: thanks, will take a look
[09:27] <thoreauputic> srijith: do you want it to be pretty?
[09:27] <setite> to tell them to spend however much money their web devs will charge them...
[09:27] <arphetic> paulproteus, Its working now btw :}
[09:27] <kvidell> setite: Yea... I associate nVidia with AMD a lot
[09:27] <davro> davro slaps microsoft, amd, apple, with a pocket full of bothereds
[09:27] <kvidell> I think It's just because I like the
[09:27] <setite> kvidell: well i do sometimes...
[09:27] <srijith> thoreauputic: nope.. the absolute least of my concern!
[09:27] <kvidell> them*
[09:27] <arphetic> Anyone tell me, how do I install XMMS on Ubuntu>
[09:27] <Madpilot> srijith: Muine loads by albums, too
[09:27] <bob2> arphetic: sudo aptitude install xmms
[09:27] <setite> kvidell: nvidia makes great video cards and really good motherboard modules...
[09:27] <srijith> thoreauputic: small footprint in terms of memory, cpu etc.
[09:27] <bob2> arphetic: as someone already told you
[09:28] <setite> i cant remember what they call that shit
[09:28] <thoreauputic> srijith: well, there are several console apps
[09:28] <setite> the motherboard thing that nvidia makes
[09:28] <kvidell> setite: chipsets
[09:28] <arphetic> bob2, where did someone tell me?
[09:28] <PurpleMotion> ati makes FAR superior video cards
[09:28] <setite> theres nvidia... sis... via
[09:28] <setite> yea chipset
[09:28] <thoreauputic> srijith:  cplay or mp3blaster for instance
[09:28] <arphetic> ah
[09:28] <arphetic> nvrmind
[09:28] <kvidell> PurpleMotion: If you like noise and interferance, sure. :-P
[09:28] <ookla> crimsun, hmm now systemsounds woot BUT totem can't start :(
[09:28] <setite> PurpleMotion: i think you are on crack sir... but i will not argue because it is futile
[09:28] <bob2> HrdwrBoB did
[09:28] <arphetic> i useally only watch for highlights here sorry
[09:28] <arphetic> ;)
[09:28] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks.... will have a look at them.. damn how I wish someone ported foorbar to linux
[09:28] <crimsun> ookla: totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[09:28] <oceandead> hey madpilot, does it matter if my laptop is really old
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> my radeon 9700 pro 256 decimated every vnidia card i have ever seen
[09:29] <oceandead> hehe
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> nvidia
[09:29] <thoreauputic> srijith: also alsaplayer works well - it has a gui and is quite light on resources
[09:29] <Madpilot> oceandead: probably not, there's some 4-5 yr old machines already signed up, I think
[09:29] <ookla> crimsun, how can I tell?
[09:29] <srijith> muine, cplaym mp3blaster, alsaplayer.. nice nice thanks guys!
[09:29] <kvidell> PurpleMotion: My GeForce MX4000 was able to play Goom 3 and HL2 at highest settings... My friends 9800pro could not. My card is 64bit, his is.. much more, lol.. 128?
[09:29] <crimsun> ookla: dpkg -l totem\*|grep ^ii
[09:30] <oceandead> ah this ones older... like 98'/99'
[09:30] <kvidell> Doom3 even
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> then he had driver issues
[09:30] <ookla> gstream
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> cause my radeon was the shiznit
[09:30] <kvidell> PurpleMotion: That's my second point. ATI can't write drivers to save their life :)
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> hell, THIS radeon os nice :)
[09:30] <setite> PurpleMotion: all i can say is look at the facts... and i feel that you will come to like nvidia more
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> is
[09:30] <crimsun> ookla: what does the Test in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector>Default Sink do?
[09:30] <arphetic>  sudo apt-get install xmms <- after that just make install?
[09:30] <iiiears> crimsun - you ARE good! - ookla has sound. :)
[09:30] <setite> in reality both are equal
[09:31] <kvidell> Their linux drivers (or lack there of in some cases) have been less than spectacular
[09:31] <setite> but when it comes to having many cards... and having your ati's be faulty... in hardware and in the drivers
[09:31] <Madpilot> arphetic: no, just do the apt-get...
[09:31] <arphetic> and the done?
[09:31] <crimsun> iiiears: pretty common issue for versions of ALSA prior to 1.0.9
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> nah, i'll like ati more regardless because they draw a better picture on my screen.. crisper anti-aliasing, etc.. i dont reallyc are about speed, i dont play games
[09:31] <arphetic> ah i see
[09:31] <arphetic> tyt
[09:31] <ookla> crimsun, esd
[09:31] <setite> and the fact that ATI has a microsoft business model in that their support for linux is severely lacking
[09:31] <ompaul> arphetic, no it is installed a that time
[09:31] <setite> nvidia drivers far surpass ati drivers on linux
[09:31] <iiiears> ookla - log this chat 'n email to yourself you'll have it if you need it again.
[09:31] <setite> due to the fact that nvidia trys harder
[09:31] <crimsun> ookla: do you hear sound when you click Test?
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> for speed maybe
[09:32] <ookla> crimsun, yes
[09:32] <PurpleMotion> but ati cards are a LOT prettier
[09:32] <kvidell> Yea.. I've had crap luck with ATI's for many reasons. They let in a lot of noise that caused my display to look _god awful_, or they just plain didn't work, windows and linux...
[09:32] <kvidell> PurpleMotion:I've not had that experience.
[09:32] <crimsun> ookla: what are you trying to play with Totem?
[09:32] <setite> nope
[09:32] <Madpilot> arphetic: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:32] <ilba7r> what is the command line to switch themes in ubuntu?
[09:32] <setite> ive looked at the screenshots side by side
[09:32] <PurpleMotion> kvidell:  sorry to hear it
[09:32] <setite> and their is no difference
[09:32] <ookla> crimsun, mp3
[09:32] <crimsun> ookla: have you installed 'gstreamer0.8-mad'?
[09:32] <PurpleMotion> yeah there is
[09:32] <Madpilot> !mp3
[09:32] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:32] <Madpilot> ookla: see ubotu ^^^
[09:32] <setite> ive played games on my nvidia... and on a friedns ati... and their is no difference
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> there sure is to me
[09:33] <ilba7r> !themes
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> a HUGE difference
[09:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> big difference in flow too
[09:33] <ompaul> arphetic, the concept is that in 99.9% of cases the software installs and just works - though I have found this figure to be higher
[09:33] <setite> ive tried doom3.... hl2... cs... cs source... vtmb... coh.. all the same
[09:33] <ookla> crimsun, yes gstreamer0.8-mad is installed
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> ati's seem to render a lot more smoothly for me
[09:33] <setite> also.. ati overcharges...
[09:33] <ookla> crimsun, getting device busy
[09:33] <michele> ati? what's up with ati?
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> i gave up an old ati tv wonder pro card for this 9250
[09:33] <[Triffid] > setite: i think most people's issues with ati cards in linux prevail before they even get to run anything.. once its working you just get random crashes with some setups
[09:34] <setite> and as a linuxant... nvidia has better performance due to the drivers
[09:34] <PurpleMotion> and it's pretty nice
[09:34] <crimsun> ookla: does it play with Rhythmbox (Music Player)?
[09:34] <setite> well if you look at linux benchmarks
[09:34] <ompaul> !tell michele about ati
[09:34] <cafuego> [Triffid] : Not to mention the woeful non-x86 support
[09:34] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion & setite: maybe take the great vid card debate to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:35] <setite> in windows... there is room for argument... but on linux.... the drivers are sorely lacking due to the fact that ati doesnt care
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  how about drop it instead
[09:35] <setite> damn you Madpilot i was gonna say that after that last statement
[09:35] <michele> ompaul, I know I know... people were speaking about it I hope for some good news
[09:35] <[Triffid] > cafuego: nvidia gpu/x86-32 here so no worries at all ;)
[09:35] <cafuego> [Triffid] : nvidia on x86_64 is fine too.
[09:35] <michele> ompaul, like the new xorg driver making it for breezy, for example
[09:35] <setite> well i was gonna say that was my final word...
[09:35] <ookla> crimsun, yes rhythembox but bad sound
[09:36] <crimsun> ookla: try installing 'totem-xine' then
[09:36] <HiThere> is there a reason my resolution keeps changing by itself?
[09:36] <highvoltage> how do i disable that screen that asks for root password if i log into single user mode in ubuntu?
[09:36] <ookla> crimsun, ok will do thanx much have to head
[09:36] <setite> !libdvd
[09:36] <ubotu> setite: I give up, what is it?
[09:36] <davro> has anyone managed to get a Wacom ArtPad II working in ubuntu.
[09:36] <setite> ok everyone.l... if you have the marillat libdvdcss2.. remove it
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> does single mode even WORK if you havent enabled root?
[09:37] <setite> i had both and the marillat one sucks
[09:37] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: yes it does
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> cool
[09:37] <Dreamer3> hmmmmm
[09:37] <setite> it pixellates and has horrible progressive scan and interlacing... it plain barely decrypts.. whereas the one on hoary extras is beautiful
[09:37] <HiThere> is there a reason my resolution keeps changing by itself?
[09:37] <Dreamer3> i set a background by launching nautilus inside of xfce and now i can't get xfce to change the background
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> i need to merge the contents of runlevel 2 into runlevel 5 and make runlevel 2 command line mode
[09:37] <setite> whats single mode
[09:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I go about networking to a windows system using samba?
[09:38] <PurpleMotion> that way i can just init up and down :D
[09:38] <crimsun> Dreamer3: that's because nautilus is actually covering up Xfce's
[09:38] <PurpleMotion> !samba
[09:38] <thoreauputic> !samba
[09:38] <ubotu> methinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:38] <Madpilot> !samba
[09:38] <Dreamer3> crimsun: but i killed it
[09:38] <setite> samba is god
[09:38] <Madpilot> "someone already said that 0 seconds ago"... oops, sorry ubotu... ;)
[09:38] <setite> i used it with my modded xbox to streme media from my pc to my tv
[09:38] <crimsun> Dreamer3: did you clear ~/.cache too?
[09:38] <setite> stream*
[09:39] <setite> PurpleMotion: have you gone mad?
[09:39] <crimsun> Dreamer3: next time, pass --no-desktop to nautilus
[09:39] <HiThere> is there a reason my resolution keeps changing by itself?
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> setite:  stark raving
[09:39] <setite> hey does kopete suck?
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> compard to gaim?
[09:39] <setite> i cant find out hoe to edit my buddylist
[09:39] <Dreamer3> crimsun: yeah :) so i can't get my desktop back now without restarting X?
[09:40] <setite> well kopete seems better than gaim to me... but i hate that i have to log into gaim to do some things..
[09:40] <crimsun> Dreamer3: you did or didn't remove ~/.cache?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> crimsun: shouldn't --no-desktop be the default in an xfce4 menu? I had the same issue and edited the menu..
[09:40] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, start an editor war
[09:40] <ubotu> gedit is better than emacs
[09:40] <Dreamer3> crimsun: interesting, what is .cache?
[09:40] <crimsun> thoreauputic: it's not set that way by default
[09:41] <crimsun> Dreamer3: it's Xfce's cache dir
[09:41] <thoreauputic> crimsun: I know - but I meant it should be :)
[09:41] <crimsun> thoreauputic: for Nautilus or for the file manager?
[09:41] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok, i removed it
[09:41] <thoreauputic> crimsun: nautilus
[09:41] <crimsun> Dreamer3: restarting Xfce should suffice, then
[09:42] <Dreamer3> crimsun: man
[09:42] <crimsun> thoreauputic: how would we go about patching --no-desktop into it?
[09:42] <Dreamer3> is it in a layer or something?
[09:42] <crimsun> Dreamer3: essentially, yes
[09:42] <thoreauputic> crimsun: ah, I see your point
[09:42] <HiThere> why do I keep losing video feed?
[09:43] <Dreamer3> crimsun: well, there is a way to remove it :)
[09:43] <crimsun> HiThere: sounds like a hardware issue: Have you checked the monitor cable?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> crimsun: in fluxbox the fluxbox_generate-menu script does it - but of course that is outside the app itself so i see what you mean
[09:44] <HiThere> yes
[09:44] <HiThere> its only happens when I open and start transfering with gftp
[09:44] <crimsun> can't say I've heard of that before
[09:45] <setite> you know what i miss abotu windows
[09:45] <crimsun> HiThere: what graphics driver are you using?
[09:45] <ompaul> HiThere, sorry where is this video feed coming from ?
[09:45] <ompaul> setite, I hope it is nothing
[09:45] <setite> the stupidity of its users... i used to have lots of fun with trojan apps like sub7 and the early netbus
[09:46] <ompaul> PurpleMotion, tough love huh?
[09:46] <osfameron> hmmm
[09:46] <setite> never liked backorifice....
[09:46] <osfameron> you don't miss sane power management and sane network control applets?
[09:46] <PurpleMotion> uh huh
[09:46] <setite> osfameron: ??
[09:46] <osfameron> setite: I close lid of laptop, it doesn't sleep
[09:46] <setite> i do miss the easy power management...
[09:46] <setite> mine does
[09:46] <setite> well it doesnt sleep sleep... i think
[09:47] <setite> but the screen turns off
[09:47] <osfameron> mine shuts down the hard disk, but still hammers the battery
[09:47] <setite> in gnome i have to log back into ubuntu
[09:47] <osfameron> also, doesn't sleep when it realizes it's running out of battery
[09:47] <crimsun> you should be able to issue ,,echo -n 3 | sudo tee -a /proc/acpi/sleep''
[09:47] <osfameron> and the network things are annoying
[09:47] <setite> well for that i just hibernate
[09:47] <osfameron> the netwrok monitor is broken
[09:47] <osfameron> gnome net-applet is broken and useless
[09:47] <osfameron> and wifi-radar is nice, but iirc isn't even packaged
[09:48] <osfameron> + you have to explicitly load and manually configure pptpconfig to get VPN working
[09:48] <osfameron> (either that, or grok pppd and pptp manpages, which have very few examples)
[09:48] <HiThere> sorry, I am using a ATI Radeon 9250 card
[09:48] <ompaul> osfameron, ppt is that the insecure VPN protocol?
[09:49] <crimsun> osfameron: wifi-radar is available in Breezy. See http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=wifi-radar
[09:49] <osfameron> ompaul, dunno, it's the one we have at work - needs to accept Linux, Mac, Win connections
[09:49] <michele> well breezy has network manager... that should be enough and better than radar
[09:50] <osfameron> crimsun, michele : cool - don't get me wrong
[09:50] <Nathanial> Hey can anyone help me with a problem I'm having with themes?
[09:50] <osfameron> I'm impressed with ubuntu as *many* things work out of box
[09:50] <ompaul> osfameron, OpenVPN is a lot better, and rather good imho (but then anytime anyone says VPN I say Open - must have been really easy to set up and manage :)
[09:50] <arphetic> :/ WHY the fuck doesnt Gnome have KCrickety or something like that
[09:50] <arphetic> KLickety
[09:50] <arphetic> w/e
[09:50] <osfameron> but if it auto-configures power management, and has a full complement of worky network applets, it'll be even better
[09:50] <Madpilot> Nathanial: best to state the actual problem you're having...
[09:50] <Madpilot> !question
[09:50] <ubotu> Madpilot: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:51] <Madpilot> !questions
[09:51] <ubotu> [questions]  what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading
[09:51] <michele> osfameron, I fully agree with you (though I can't miss these things from windows as I've never used it on a laptop)
[09:51] <thoreauputic> arphetic: wtf is klickety ?
[09:51] <ompaul> arphetic, because its not KDE
[09:51] <osfameron> it's in my synaptic
[09:51] <osfameron> oh, but not authenticated
[09:51] <ompaul> Madpilot, ask is good :)
[09:51] <Nathanial> Okay I installed a dark theme from gnome art, and in mozilla all the black font is white, and hard to read. Its like this for every dark theme I install.
[09:51] <ompaul> !tell Madpilot about ask :)
[09:52] <ompaul> !tell Madpilot about ask
[09:52] <ompaul> Madpilot, :)
[09:52] <mchasard> hi
[09:52] <ompaul> hello
[09:52] <Madpilot> ompaul: man, that should be part of the /topic! it is better than !questions
[09:52] <ompaul> Madpilot, well you have choices it is open :)
[09:52] <Madpilot> arphetic: klickety shows up in Synaptic for me
[09:53] <mchasard> i would like to use ubuntu as a live cd only but save my config on a usb key ...is there a tool included ?
[09:53] <TheGnome> i switched back to debian........    : 0
[09:53] <TheGnome> sorry guys
[09:53] <mchasard> like many others distro
[09:53] <Prowl3r> Howdy TheGnome
[09:53] <TheGnome> Prowl3r, hello
[09:54] <Nathanial> I mean its like this for EVERY dark theme I install.  I can't find a fix, and its hard to read text, and I like dark themes though.
[09:54] <Prowl3r> It's me ATI_RAGE_ you helped me a couple days back thanks
[09:54] <arphetic> rofl i wasnt being serious guys :)
[09:55] <arphetic> Same GNOME will do as well :] 
[09:55] <Madpilot> Nathanial: can Firefox be edited for font type/colour? (I use Opera, and it can...)
[09:55] <ompaul> !tell Prowl3r about ati
[09:55] <TheGnome> Prowl3r, you can download the ati drivers from their site
[09:55] <ompaul> ahh Prowl3r is the user formerly known as ATI_RAGE
[09:56] <TheGnome> Prowl3r, or   apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:56] <Nathanial> okay I'll try this. I also have the problem in XCHAT and GAIM, pretty much every font
[09:56] <mchasard> please is there an answer for me ?
[09:56] <michele> Nathanial, xchat has its own themes too. get one from xchat.org
[09:56] <Prowl3r> lol
[09:56] <clem_yeats> mchasard: what's the question ?
[09:57] <Prowl3r> Yes TheGnome lol the ATI nut
[09:57] <TheGnome> thats me
[09:57] <Prowl3r> well I'm kinda an ATI nut aswell
[09:57] <Nathanial> uh thanks for the help guys :)
[09:57] <mchasard> i would like to know if theres a tool included in ubuntu to save/restore config ?
[09:58] <mchasard> on a usb key for exemple
[09:58] <Prowl3r> Their stuff just seems to work for me, ATI Rage 3d card worked great under linux and beos
[09:58] <mchasard> lile many others distro
[09:58] <clem_yeats> mchasard: what kind of config ?
[09:58] <mchasard> a config for which i can retrieve all the parameters for a next reboot of a live cd
[09:59] <michele> mchasard, just use the other distro. slax or something
[09:59] <mchasard> hum yes but its not ubuntu ;-)
[09:59] <mchasard> pity that such a tool can't be find
[10:00] <clem_yeats> mchasard: I think the live CD of ubuntu is only intended to be a demo cd.. rather than something used by people who go from one computer to another.
[10:00] <Madpilot> need sleep... later all.
[10:00] <mchasard> mepis was also the same but thez include recently onthego feature
[10:00] <clem_yeats> mchasard: you could install ubuntu though and use the slax tool to make a live CD version of your Ubuntu install.
[10:01] <mchasard> really but ubuntu and slax are different not based on the same
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> i like the control the ubuntu live cd gives you, but i like the way knoppix boots up a lot better
[10:02] <clem_yeats> I know, but slax is a demo, it's the result of a set of tools dedicated to transform a linux installation into a bootable CD.
[10:02] <clem_yeats> mchasard: I never tried, but I think it would be ok to use slax tools to make a live Ubuntu CD.
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> some pretty fancy scripting in those live cds
[10:04] <mchasard> hum i'm not a very good linux user to be able to make it
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> ive been using linux for years and i wouldnt even think about it ;)
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> but then again, im just a user
[10:04] <mchasard> such a tool is not on the todo list of ubuntu ?
[10:05] <xrnath> question: In ubuntu what can i use to view flash .swf ?
[10:05] <xrnath> not within a browser, thats no prob
[10:06] <mchasard> ok thanks is there a french room for ubuntu ?
[10:06] <volvoguy> those slax cd's (and cd building tools) are pretty slick. i keep a mini-cd in my car at all times. :)
[10:06] <clem_yeats> mchasard: I'm French :)
[10:06] <mchasard> ok good to learn that ...
[10:08] <esenthiel> Hi - I am having trouble setting my resolution higher than 1024x768 - I tried setting it manually in xorg.conf but something messed up.
[10:09] <Prowl3r> Cya everyone
[10:09] <HiThere> so why is my video feed going out when I run gftp?
[10:09] <ttj> I have a machine with only SATA disk-drives. How do I install ubuntu when debian-installer can't find my disks?
[10:09] <arphetic> :/
[10:10] <arphetic> There is a writing error while writing new boot record to first hard disk drive. ????
[10:10] <arphetic> Does this have anything to do with the MBR?
[10:11] <ompaul> arphetic, it can do, and that is not an unreasonable suggestion
[10:13] <HiThere> why is my video feed going out when I run gftp?
[10:13] <ompaul> HiThere, I asked before where is this video feed coming from?
[10:13] <HiThere> my video card?
[10:14] <ompaul> no, what are you watching - what is generating the output - which programs
[10:14] <HiThere> just the desktop and gftp
[10:15] <ompaul> HiThere, and when you turn on gftp you get a 'black' screen or something else?
[10:15] <HiThere> yea, the monitor says "mode not supported"
[10:16] <arphetic> WTF -> Error: Hard Disk Drive is protected against writing?
[10:16] <ompaul> ahh now theres a thing try the following system - preferences - screen resolution and increase the resolution if you can
[10:16] <arphetic> I tried to activate the partition
[10:17] <ompaul> arphetic, got some norton installed on there or a little piece of bios that is trying to help but gets in the way
[10:17] <arphetic> ?
[10:18] <carambol> join #debian
[10:19] <ompaul> arphetic, some bios settings offer to 'mind' the harddrive and protect it against a boot sector virus - also if you are using some antivirus software it thinks it is its god given right to write protect the mbr
[10:20] <tristanmike> Thank You Everybody for your help, have a good night/day see you later
[10:21] <setite> you know why kde rocks
[10:21] <setite> because konqueror can do some things firefox wont
[10:22] <rowanjl> Hey guys, I'm trying to solve a bug that keeps happening with new Linux distros (Fedora Core 4, 4.10 and now 5.4). I've filed the bug report for Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=165192) but so far the problem is unsolved. Anyone want to take a look and see if they can reproduce it? Any information would be useful
[10:22] <arphetic> ompaul: i got it
[10:22] <Sonderblade> setite, which things?
[10:22] <arphetic> its the bios virus utiliyu ;)
[10:22] <ompaul> arphetic, what was it
[10:22] <ompaul> arphetic, :)
[10:22] <arphetic> :)
[10:22] <arphetic> I found it in google
[10:22] <arphetic> :)
[10:22] <arphetic> some discription wrote everything i needed lol
[10:23] <michele> setite, the reverse is also true, I guess
[10:23] <rowanjl> If anyone can think of a way to reproduce the bug, after the system is set up, let me know :)
[10:23] <ompaul> rowanjl, it is not a Ubuntu issue :)
[10:24] <rowanjl> ompaul, yes it is...
[10:24] <rowanjl> I have a feeling it might be something to do with newer kernels, as FC3 didn't do it. I can't say for Ubuntu versions before 4.10
[10:24] <Dreamer31> rowanjl: what?
[10:25] <rowanjl> ompaul, it might be a Fedora issue, but it also happens with Ubuntu
[10:25] <ompaul> rowanjl, not that I am aware of
[10:25] <rowanjl> Dreamer3, scroll up 10 lines...
[10:25] <eliphas_> morning
[10:25] <ompaul> rowanjl, and I have installed Ubuntu on several systems
[10:25] <rowanjl> ompaul, as far as I know I'm the only one who has had it :)
[10:25] <rowanjl> ompaul, its real strange, but it could be anything causing the problem'
[10:25] <michele> rowanjl, my guess is that you screwed something up. never happened to anyone else, AFAIK
[10:26] <ompaul> rowanjl, then your idea of doing something at some stange time in the setup is not helping things
[10:26] <rowanjl> michele, its not something screwed up, honest
[10:26] <rowanjl> just a plain install
[10:26] <cafuego> woo
[10:26] <cute_bettong> whats colony 3?
[10:26] <setite> yay... terrayaki beef steak nuggets!
[10:26] <rowanjl> What am I doing in the install that is so strange?
[10:26] <michele> rowanjl, you should try to install again and see if it happens again. that's the only way to confirm it might be a bug
[10:27] <ompaul> rowanjl, you are installing it, when do you try to use that user, i.e. at what stage of the process?
[10:27] <rowanjl> michele, as I said, it happens in FC4, 4.10 and 5.04
[10:27] <aleksi> does anyone have experience on video editing in ubuntu?
[10:27] <setite> who lives in a non-24 hour town
[10:27] <cute_bettong> bob2 whats colony 3?
[10:27] <Dreamer31> ok
[10:27] <rowanjl> ompaul, the normal part where it asks you to create a user?
[10:27] <aleksi> and which software would people recommend?
[10:27] <setite> what the hell do you do when you crave something at like 3 or 4 in the morning...
[10:27] <arphetic> How did i check the version i have?
[10:27] <Dreamer31> anyway i can get window-1, window-2, etc to switch desktops in xfce?
[10:27] <Dreamer31> if so i think i'd be in love
[10:28] <Dreamer31> old habits die hard
[10:28] <ompaul> that is not the time to test its 'being there' that stage is after first reboot
[10:28] <ompaul> setite, think of something else :)
[10:28] <rowanjl> ompaul, pardon?
[10:28] <selinium> Ok people, how do i read a memo sent to me?
[10:28] <selinium> in IRC
[10:28] <cafuego> selinium: /msg memoserv help
[10:28] <arphetic> !version
[10:28] <ubotu> arphetic: I give up, what is it?
[10:29] <selinium> cafuego: cheers!
[10:29] <arphetic> !help
[10:29] <ompaul> rowanjl, the point at which one checks the availablity of the user account is after the machine has rebooted once, after the install
[10:30] <rowanjl> ompaul, huh? During the install when it asks you to make a user, thats what I do. When I try to login as the user things get barfed because the user doesn't own its own home directory
[10:32] <rowanjl> ompaul, did you understand me? :/
[10:32] <Renski2> Im trying to setup my D-Link DWL-G650, and im reading this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36800 , how can I tell what the right linux-headers package is?
[10:33] <zerboxx> setite: heh, I didn't have to, but for some reason my audio sounds better if it's not at 100%, so I made a little script that'll keep it at 95%
[10:33] <bronco> !ati
[10:33] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:33] <ubiquitin> anyone here using Breezy and Skype?
[10:33] <osfa> Kontact-- # the bloody KWallet thing pops up, asking your password, and *doesn't take focus*
[10:33] <cute_bettong> i thought x was broken in breezy?
[10:33] <osfa> how retarded is that?
[10:34] <ompaul> rowanjl, I have over 10 years installing and using unix like operating systems, yeap I understood, you are suggesting that /home/rowan does not have the permissions  ronan:ronan on your ubuntu box after you setting up the box first time
[10:34] <Ng> osfa: file a bug report :)
[10:34] <setite> why wont firefox run a chm help
[10:34] <Nathanial> Does anybody know how to change the defualt firefox icon to the new icon/
[10:34] <setite> but konqueror will
[10:34] <ubiquitin> osfa: but that's what KDE is all about :))
[10:34] <osfa> Ng, good plan
[10:34] <osfa> Well, Kmail is significantly shinier than Evolution
[10:34] <ompaul> rowanjl, actually change the word permissions to ownership
[10:34] <rowanjl> ompaul, exactly, and as Ubuntu and Fedora don't share the same firstboot I find this really odd :/
[10:35] <rowanjl> ompaul, yep
[10:35] <cute_bettong> i like thunderbird myself
[10:35] <osfa> but I think I might go back to Thunderbird, as it works, and doesn't make me want to throw it out of the window
[10:35] <cute_bettong> it seems to have really good junk mail filters
[10:35] <rowanjl> ompaul, I'd like to try and get it fixed before breezy
[10:35] <rowanjl> But as I don't even know what causes it... well yeah!
[10:36] <ompaul> rowanjl, it is not happening to anyone else or it would be well documented with a work around
[10:36] <osfa> gah, Kontact bug report wizard won't launch: needs 'kfmclient'.  Back to synaptc :-)
[10:36] <ompaul> rowanjl, and if it is only happening to you then I suggest it it something you are doing, common to both boxes
[10:36] <Nathanial> Nlw
[10:36] <ompaul> rowanjl, or common to both installs
[10:36] <Nathanial> *how do you change the firefox icon to the new icon?
[10:37] <rowanjl> ompaul, one box, three versions of linux, following normal installation
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how does ubuntu react to belkin routers?
[10:37] <ompaul> rowanjl, okay, and they all have their own /home?
[10:37] <osfa> Oh, kfmclient isn't in synaptic
[10:37] <rowanjl> I don't do anything unusual when installing Ubuntu
[10:37] <osfa> that's handy
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm buying a brand new in the box belkin router for 9.99 if ubuntu can tolerate it
[10:37] <rowanjl> ompaul, the user created at install? yep
[10:37] <setite> does ubuntu have problem wiht routers?
[10:37] <rowanjl> ompaul, actually!
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's even 801.11g ^_^
[10:38] <ompaul> rowanjl, no sorry, they are all using a seperate partition for home?
[10:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> settite don't use d-link >.<
[10:38] <rowanjl> ompaul, yes, I completely forgot... duhh
[10:38] <setite> ok...
[10:38] <setite> yea im a linksys guy.....
[10:38] <rowanjl> ompaul, that would be it, wouldn't it?
[10:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> they seem to burn out to quick
[10:38] <setite> had de-link years ago
[10:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can't forward anyports anymore
[10:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but this belkin one seems really nice
[10:39] <ompaul> rowanjl, so the problem exists where?
[10:39] <rowanjl> ompaul, if the partitions are not mounted when it makes the user, that would explain alot
[10:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's got a built in hardware firewall besides port forwarding and other "nifty" securety features
[10:40] <zerboxx> Is there any reason why "fullscreen" in mplayer is just the same size, but the rest of the screen goes black
[10:40] <setite> how do i get wmp9 plugin to work
[10:40] <setite> it works on windows so there must be a way to work it on the linux ff
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> zerboxx: annoying ant it? i've been looking for the answer for like 3 monthes now >.<
[10:41] <Ng> easy
[10:41] <Ng> stick "zoom=yes" in your ~/.mplayer/config file
[10:41] <Ng> :)
[10:41] <ompaul> rowanjl, they are not mounted before the machine reboots with the correct names - the real / is on the cdrom at that time
[10:41] <setite> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what?
[10:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are you shittin me O_o
[10:41] <setite> haha... so simple
[10:41] <selinium> language Foamy .. :)
[10:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> setite:  what about what?
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> selinium: sorry man >.<
[10:42] <setite> what about mplayer.. it doesnt zoom?
[10:42] <selinium> ChurcH_of_FoamY: lol
[10:42] <zerboxx> ChurcH_of_FoamY: It is that easy!
[10:42] <arphetic> Anyone has an idea where all these maps come from? like C:/#%@!^@&_&%*(#!%&!@%&!@(*
[10:42] <arphetic> I mean, only thing i did was running TinyLinux
[10:43] <arphetic> fdisk
[10:43] <zerboxx> Ng: That was too easy, thanks! (not sure why that isn't an option but whatever, it's fixed now)
[10:43] <setite> does mplayer do anything that kaffeine doesnt?
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> a customer bought a 486 dx 66 and wants me to upgrade it >.< lol
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i hate stupid people >.<
[10:43] <setite> god dont you love that
[10:43] <setite> my friend bought some old pc
[10:43] <setite> really old
[10:43] <setite> i havent even heard of the company
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i mean a 486 dx 66 who the heck uses them anymore
[10:43] <setite> it has less than a gig harddrive
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow
[10:44] <setite> like one of the pcs when laptops were inventend
[10:44] <setite> it doesnt have a floppy drive
[10:44] <setite> does that give a hint at how old it is
[10:44] <setite> no drives
[10:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this one has a 128 mb hd and a wopping 32mb 72 pin edo
[10:44] <rowanjl> ChurcH_of_FoamY, lots of servos have them :)
[10:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> holy cow
[10:44] <setite> it was a DECpc
[10:44] <michele> less than a gig? I still have my 84MB HD at home
[10:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[10:44] <michele> and my 386 40MHz
[10:44] <michele> from cyrix
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> jeeze the oldest box i have is the one i'm using
[10:45] <setite> well sorry.. less than a gig is small to me
[10:45] <selinium> I am still using a athlon 900 as my main machine!
[10:45] <setite> lemme find the specs
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> a pIII 600b Mhz
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with 2 gigs pc133
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and with ubuntu it runs faster than my my p4 1.5mhz with 768mb rambus
[10:46] <selinium> ChurcH_of_FoamY: wins on the processor front! I only have 128 of RAm
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> although i must say that rambus ricks
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have a 1200mb swap in this box and theres 1200mb free in that swap ^_^
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love it
[10:47] <twibbler> good morning all .
[10:47] <setite> can i take off the password on kde wallet
[10:47] <clem_yeats> hi twibbler
[10:47] <setite> i dont want password protection
[10:47] <setite> i want my pc free to all
[10:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu really does give new life to older machenes i mean i get a faster fps in source than on my windows box
[10:48] <user1> anyone have ndiswrapper working?
[10:48] <setite> source?
[10:48] <twibbler> I have ndiswrapper working fine ...
[10:49] <user1> modprobe will not insert ndiswrapper for me complaining about the dot ko file
[10:49] <twibbler> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper ...
[10:49] <nemlah> Hello all
[10:50] <setite> here is that old pc http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=177&item=5212559959
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my pc specs pIII 600mhz mem=2gigs hard drive 10,000 rpm 120gig raptor gigabit ethernet 10/100/1000 ethernet card usb 2.0 card firewire card wireless (not microsoft) keyboard and mouse and an 80 gig storage drive at 75,000 rpm
[10:50] <user1> I'm inserting from a root terminal. It reports a fatal error
[10:50] <nemlah> Can someone point me to information on using the latest kernel snapshots with ubuntu
[10:50] <ilba7r> anyone using enlightenment
[10:50] <twibbler> userl can you do a ndiswrapper -l
[10:50] <user1> its not there
[10:51] <twibbler> what ndiswrapper ...
[10:51] <setite> decpc 320p... i cant find that stats on it
[10:51] <nemlah> anyone using the 2.6.13-rcx kernels?
[10:51] <user1> sorry... one minute, its on another machine I need to boot
[10:51] <nemlah> apparently they do contain a v4l patch needed
[10:51] <jtan325> has anyone gotten the java plug-in to work in firefox?
[10:52] <jtan325> i've got the jre-1.5 installed from the repos
[10:52] <nemlah> yeah
[10:52] <setite> MS-DOS 5, 20 MHz 386sx, 80-meg drive, 6 MB RAM, grayscale VGA display
[10:52] <jtan325> and according to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java, that's all i need to do
[10:52] <setite> and he wanted winxp
[10:52] <ilba7r> anyone know how to change the default theme of nautilus?
[10:52] <setite> ya
[10:52] <jtan325> but it's not showing up in "about:plugins"
[10:52] <jtan325> and java stuff isn't loading
[10:52] <ilba7r> sorry let me rephrase how to change gtk themes using command line
[10:52] <nemlah> look at the unofficial http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[10:53] <twibbler> I wonder if anybody could answer a ? about booting up .. system now boots up to login prompt only after upgrade .. have to run startx
[10:53] <nemlah> jtan 325 it worked for me
[10:54] <jtan325> hmm yeah i already read that
[10:55] <setite> hmmm.. twibbler what did you do
[10:55] <setite> did you install or uninstall your desktop
[10:56] <setite> actually i shouldnt take your question.... i should wait for someone else... i think i know why butnot how to fix it
[10:56] <setite> ill ask one thing... do you see GDM or KDM loading as your pc boots
[10:56] <mrchicago>  /server irc.criten.net
[10:57] <user1> twibbler: ndiswrapper -l works fine, the driver is present
[10:57] <setite> whats the command to open a new server
[10:57] <user1> when I modprobe -i ndiswrapper the comp reports
[10:58] <setite> ./server -soemthing irc.blah.net
[10:58] <user1> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper ( path to ko ): Operation not permitted
[10:58] <setite> user1:
[10:58] <setite> use sudo
[10:58] <setite> i get operation not permitted when i dont use sudo first
[10:59] <setite> so "sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper"
[10:59] <setite> did this room die?
[10:59] <user1> setite: I'm doing the operation from a root terminal, sudo is not needed
[11:00] <setite> ok then... dont know...
[11:00] <Rod> hi
[11:00] <setite> where did everyone go
[11:00] <azriel0184> sudo -s is good for getting a root terminal
[11:00] <setite> did i get booted on a split?
[11:00] <user1> anyone: this is driving me nuts I'm thinking about putting a bounty on this
[11:00] <nemlah> anyone with kernel 2.6.13 ?
[11:00] <setite> ive never foudn the need for a root terminal
[11:00] <zaid> hello
[11:01] <nemlah> is there a way to update to this kernel tree>
[11:01] <azriel0184> setite: i do all the time
[11:01] <zaid> every body
[11:01] <nemlah> hello zaid
[11:01] <setite> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you there
[11:01] <setite> azriel0184: what for
[11:01] <Rod> did you try a colony3 install? im running hoary happily but wondering what's in the make :)
[11:01] <ilba7r> user1 which ndiswrapper you use
[11:01] <user1> using ndiswrapper 1.2
[11:01] <Rod> but the day before yesterday i took a daily build and i couldnt get nautilus running (unmet deps)
[11:02] <zaid> hi mudassir
[11:02] <setite> anyoen in here a satanist?
[11:02] <setite> whoa.. nevermind.. thats a bit off topic
[11:02] <azriel0184> setite: you can easily use a whole heap of sudo's, but setting up things, i often use a console
[11:02] <ilba7r> user1 did you compile it from source
[11:02] <setite> hi mudassier
[11:02] <user1> yes I did
[11:02] <ilba7r> user1 did you get the right kernel header $uname-r
[11:02] <setite> azriel0184: i suppose.. ive had bad experiences iwht root... like apps that wont run and stuff
[11:03] <michele> sometimes I wonder about setite's sanity
[11:03] <setite> i just find it easier to use sudo...
[11:03] <setite> michele: i think dont believe in sanity
[11:03] <osfa> It's annoying that you can't run a root app from Run Application menu
[11:03] <setite> michele: i question why you name has one L :)
[11:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> setite: yes i'm here whats up?
[11:03] <setite> haha
[11:03] <osfa> if you try 'synaptic' it complains needs to be run as root
[11:03] <user1> yes I did get the correct kernel headers ( uname -r )
[11:03] <osfa> if you try 'sudo synaptic' it doesnt' do anything
[11:03] <michele> setite, because Ls are expensive here
[11:04] <setite> ChurcH_of_FoamY: just checking... i thought the server split because it got quiet
[11:04] <user1> ... I think
[11:04] <ilba7r> check it out
[11:04] <user1> let me check
[11:04] <ilba7r> type $uname-r in a terminal and ckeck if it is the headers you installed
[11:04] <setite> michele
[11:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> roflmao the otherday it did >.<
[11:04] <setite> michele: i only see you active when im talking abotu something nuts
[11:05] <zaid> aye gadhay
[11:05] <setite> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it did a few hours ago..
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> new foamy @ www.illwillpress.com
[11:05] <ilba7r> anyone know how to change gtk themes using command line
[11:05] <setite> where is a really good chatroom to talk abotu random sh**
[11:06] <setite> on this server or any.. should i check efnet?
[11:06] <setite> new foam
[11:06] <setite> yea!!!!
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <setite> lets see if FF will play it
[11:06] <setite> nah ubuntu-offtopic has like 10 people in it
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmm go trolling O_o
[11:07] <setite> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i must say the show is getting lacking
[11:07] <setite> whoa that was poor english
[11:07] <setite> tried to say is getting bad and is lacking
[11:07] <setite> someone log on who i can actually help
[11:07] <setite> i feel bad
[11:08] <setite> i miss the modded xbox channels
[11:08] <setite> i was worth something there
[11:08] <setite> god i hate this.. foamys load in liek 2 seconds on my home pc... but like a minute on this wireless
[11:09] <setite> ok this room died again...
[11:09] <arphetic> Anyone has a ASCII tabel thing??
[11:09] <sn0n> google it
[11:09] <sn0n> will take 2 seconds
[11:09] <sn0n> i think like http://asciitable.com or something is one
[11:09] <user1> ilba7r: synaptic package manager says linux kernel headers is 2.5.999-test-bk-17 but uname -r says 2.6.10-5-386
[11:10] <sn0n> arphetic, yeah.. http://asciitable.com
[11:10] <arphetic> yesi found it already,
[11:10] <arphetic> but erm
[11:10] <user1> anyone else?
[11:10] <nemlah> Ne1 knows where to find repos with bleeding edge kernels?
[11:10] <arphetic> How do i input those keys -> fdisk ?
[11:11] <setite> i want a sacred space!!!
[11:11] <sn0n> what do you mean ?
[11:11] <arphetic> well
[11:11] <nemlah> >kernel 2.6.13
[11:11] <arphetic> to get those signs
[11:11] <arphetic> ;)
[11:11] <setite> askee
[11:11] <arphetic> i have to insert Volume name in FDISK
[11:11] <arphetic> but its like chinese
[11:11] <setite> ascii askee
[11:11] <sn0n> ur making no sense
[11:11] <setite> do you say the letters or do you make a word
[11:11] <sn0n> hrmm.. no clue ?
[11:12] <arphetic> err?
[11:12] <arphetic> u guys talking 2 me?
[11:12] <setite> chinese... nah japanese is bette
[11:12] <setite> r
[11:12] <setite> ok im off to find somewhere that i can talk randomly
[11:12] <setite> but i need to knwo how to open a new server
[11:13] <Ng> type /quit ;)
[11:13] <arphetic> well the name is like  "o o,o ,~a'e
[11:13] <arphetic> like this
[11:13] <arphetic> (but then different
[11:13] <setite> no... to open a new seperate server is /server -somethine irc.server.com
[11:13] <setite> but i cant remember the letter
[11:14] <setite> omg
[11:14] <setite> never type /list on efnet
[11:14] <setite> im used to mirc which opens a window and does it slowly.. but konversation trys to maul me and my mouse was jumping across the screen.. once a second
[11:14] <setite> wow... bad
[11:16] <Ali`G> glibc-2.3.4 were can i download this?
[11:16] <fluffybunny_> I was browsing and discovered I don't have J2RE installed, and its not in the package manager, so I downloaded it and tried to install in manually, but it doesn't work. QUESTION: is j2re in the package manager, and I just missed it somehow?
[11:16] <Ng> Ali`G: why do you want to replace your libc?
[11:16] <Ng> (that is to say, you almost certainly don't want to)
[11:16] <Ali`G> lol
[11:17] <fluffybunny_> i followed the instructions at http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting, but they didn't work...
[11:17] <arphetic> The Volume name would be in ascii: 193 34 248 32 48 44 248 32 44 142 130
[11:17] <michele> !tell fluffybunny_ about java
[11:17] <fluffybunny_> michele: thanks!
[11:17] <sn0n> !ping
[11:17] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, sn0n.
[11:17] <sn0n> thnx
[11:17] <sn0n> :-D
[11:17] <arphetic> Anyone has an idea?
[11:19] <kzm> Morning, all!  A long time ago, on a distribution far from here, I used to have several accounts with [KG] DM icons and no password in order to run e.g. a DVD player.  I can't seem to find how to set this up in Ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[11:20] <bina> anybody know why I wouldnt be able to get translucency in KDE 3.4? I have it enabled, just nothing happens.  I have a nVidia GF4 card (but only the default driver installed, no GL)
[11:21] <Nathanial> anybody know how to replace the firefox icon with the newer one?
[11:21] <Rod> which icon
[11:21] <Thunder000> what's a good application for viewing pictures ?
[11:21] <Nathanial> Mozilla the browser
[11:21] <Rod> Thunder00 f-spot
[11:21] <Rod> yeah but where is the icon Nathanial
[11:22] <Rod> just right click on the icon and select a new one
[11:22] <Nathanial> I'm asking if there is a way to get an icon for it that looks like the one for windows
[11:22] <Nathanial> the flame or fox tail
[11:25] <setite> thats a good question...
[11:25] <setite> the linux one is lame
[11:26] <Ng> it's not "the linux one"
[11:26] <Ng> it's the debian one
[11:27] <Ng> because mozilla have stupid rules about using their trademarks
[11:27] <Ng> the official icon isn't included in the package, but you could yoink it from another machine, or probably grab a similar picture from the firefox site
[11:27] <timtux> Hum, ive got an VIA UniChrome gfx card. It wont work in ubuntu :-/
[11:27] <kzm> What program is used to configure KDM (or KDE in general)?
[11:28] <kzm> kdm_config "is not supposed to be run manually, apparently.
[11:28] <setite> why would anyone want freebsd
[11:28] <setite> isnt the support even worse than linux
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> setite, its stable
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> check out the netcraft
[11:28] <bina> where is my 'X config' file? also, does Ubuntu use Xorg ?
[11:28] <Ng> setite: different systems are suitable for different things
[11:28] <wickedpuppy> all the best servers run on BSDs
[11:28] <Ng> bina: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and yes
[11:29] <bina> Ng: thanks
[11:29] <Ng> wickedpuppy: some of
[11:29] <setite> besides servers
[11:29] <Ng> setite: different systems are suitable for different things
[11:29] <Ng> :)
[11:29] <setite> why would and end user want it on his home pc
[11:29] <Ng> define "end user"
[11:29] <Ng> a grandmother probably wouldn't
[11:30] <Ng> a techie guy who wants a stable source based unix might well do
[11:30] <timtux> Somone knows if brreezy gonna have bettter support for VIA gfx cards ?
[11:30] <wickedpuppy> setite, Ng  ... go see here http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
[11:31] <wickedpuppy> if you can find a linux server tell me
[11:31] <Ng> wickedpuppy: uptime means nothing
[11:31] <imsick> hi
[11:31] <imsick> i need help
[11:31] <imsick> anyone?
[11:31] <Ng> wickedpuppy: any linux system that's been up for several years is guaranteed to be full of exploitable holes ;)
[11:31] <wickedpuppy> it is :P
[11:31] <Ng> imsick: ask your question
[11:31] <wickedpuppy> then isn't it amazing why they are still up ?? :P
[11:32] <imsick> i just installed ubuntu
[11:32] <imsick> what is the root password?
[11:32] <setite> what is netcraft.. alll i see is a rainbow
[11:32] <wickedpuppy> no root pass ...
[11:32] <setite> i dont like rainbows
[11:32] <imsick> i cant login as root
[11:32] <timtux> imsick, no
[11:32] <Ng> wickedpuppy: no, I have a laptop here running redhat 6 that hasn't been rebooted in about 18 months, that doesn't make it a good server ;)
[11:32] <timtux> imsick, its disablet
[11:32] <timtux> imsick, use sudo
[11:32] <Ng> imsick: there is no root password
[11:32] <laxise> hi theere
[11:32] <setite> oh server thingy
[11:32] <laxise> could I have some questions
[11:32] <laxise> ?
[11:32] <Jalada> you can use sudo -s if you want a root shell
[11:32] <setite> you have to set a root password
[11:32] <imsick> how can i login as root
[11:32] <HiThere> is AIM down for everybody?
[11:32] <Ng> laxise: yes
[11:32] <setite> sudo passwd root
[11:32] <setite> i think
[11:33] <laxise> Ng: first where to find mplayer package
[11:33] <fluffybunny_> help: i tried to add the hoar-extras repository, (following the HowTo) but it fails to download... what to do?
[11:33] <laxise> can't find it in the repository
[11:33] <Jalada> there's no need to though
[11:33] <timtux> imsick, WHY do you gonna login as root? its dumb
[11:33] <imsick> im installing skype
[11:33] <Jalada> use sudo
[11:33] <Ng> laxise: check the ubuntu wiki for BreakMyUbuntu and AddingRepositories, enable universe and multiverse, then it should be ok
[11:33] <imsick> it wont install if not root
[11:33] <setite> timtux: be nice... people have their things
[11:33] <azriel0184> laxise: its in the multiverse
[11:33] <Jalada> imsick, use sudo
[11:33] <laxise> it isn't in universe
[11:33] <output> hi guys, is anyone available to help me setup an xnest environment?
[11:33] <wickedpuppy> sudo dpkg -i *skype-name*
[11:33] <laxise> ah there is multiverse
[11:33] <setite> shoudl i get skype
[11:34] <setite> i feel left out
[11:34] <laxise> but that isn't kept by ubuntu...am I correct?
[11:34] <timtux> setite, ;)
[11:34] <Ng> laxise: multiverse is hosted by ubuntu, it's just unsupported
[11:34] <laxise> I see thanx :))
[11:34] <fluffybunny_> help: i tried to add the hoar-extras repository, (following the HowTo) but it fails to download... what to do?
[11:34] <laxise> second question
[11:34] <laxise> is how to install firefox extesion
[11:34] <Ng> usually you just click on the link in firefox and it'll prompt to install it
[11:35] <mayco> I've downloaded and tried the colony 3 live cd on my dell inspiron 6000 laptop, and there are some things that don't work. Where should I report them? Can I get in touch with someone responsible for LaptopMission?
[11:35] <Ng> if you have a .xpi file, go File->Open in firefox and browse to it
[11:35] <laxise> after I click install ... it doesn't install.  When I donwnload it is just packed file...could I unpack it and copy it somewhere?
[11:35] <imsick> could anyone here help me install skype?
[11:35] <imsick> i dont know how
[11:36] <setite> didnyt you hear what they said
[11:36] <setite> what kind of package is it
[11:36] <HiThere> is AIM down for everybody?
[11:36] <setite> whats the extension? .DEB?
[11:36] <setite> HiThere: yea
[11:37] <laxise> Ng: I did that (file-> browse), however, I still get empty window
[11:37] <laxise> and now extension installed
[11:37] <setite> HiThere: i just checked kopete and it disconnected
[11:37] <HiThere> okay thank you
[11:37] <Ng> laxise: hmm, that's quite odd
[11:37] <michele> imsick, http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[11:37] <Owtput> hi guys, are any of you familiar with xnest (and a different wm) in X?
[11:37] <setite> omg.. AIM disconnected... the y2k bug has hit at last!!!
[11:37] <bina> are these translucencies sped up if I isntall the Nvidia driver?
[11:37] <fluffybunny_> Need help with Adding Repositories: I tried to add the hoary-extras repository (in Synaptic)(following the HowTo) but it fails to download... what to do?
[11:37] <azriel0184> why did ubuntuguide.org get taken out of the topic line here? thats a great site
[11:37] <Ng> bina: the nvidia drivers can accelerate the Composite X extension, but very little uses it so far and it's quite experimental. if you mean terminal transparencies.... no
[11:38] <Ng> azriel0184: no it's not
[11:38] <setite> azriel0184: its frowned upon for some reason
[11:38] <Ng> it may seem like it, but it's really not
[11:38] <clem_yeats> azriel0184: seemingly people disagree about this
[11:38] <setite> !ubuntuguide
[11:38] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[11:38] <laxise> Ng: I know that is why I ask? :)).  The multiverse works just fine :)
[11:38] <setite> see
[11:38] <bina> Ng: well i think its the composite extension, for the KDE 3.4 translucency effect?
[11:38] <Tidge> Sorry 4 off-topic - don't know where else to go: Does anyone know where to get a GMAIL invite?
[11:38] <Ng> laxise: well, the only thing I can think of to suggest is to close firefox and run "firefox -ProfileManager" from a terminal, create a new profile and see if that can install any extensions, if it can then your profile is broken, if not then firefox is broken
[11:38] <bina> ill isntall anyway, then i can play on tux racer again :)
[11:39] <Ng> bina: not sure, don't use KDE
[11:39] <alonso> hola
[11:39] <setite> Tidge: google it... thats all i did... ill google it again fo royu
[11:39] <bina> Ng, oh right, k.  Well, ill try, see what happens
[11:39] <fluffybunny_> Tidge: you need to ask someone with a Gmail address
[11:39] <azriel0184> Ng: i learnt alot about linux and ubuntu from that site. *sigh* oh well
[11:39] <laxise> Ng: good idea :))
[11:39] <arphetic> http://www.rootx.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=7441#7441
[11:39] <osfa> I quite like ubuntuguide
[11:39] <laxise> perhaps during the update the profile got broken
[11:39] <laxise> ...
[11:39] <alonso> hola laxise
[11:39] <Ng> azriel0184: I'd say the wiki and the mailing list and the forums and here are better :)
[11:39] <setite> i need a new one
[11:40] <setite> fluffybunny_: no oyu dont
[11:40] <laxise> alonso: hola
[11:40] <setite> googling "free g-mail invite" shows many sites
[11:40] <arphetic> I wrote the story about my "error" with FDISK and stuff here -> http://www.rootx.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=7441#7441
[11:40] <setite> www.bytetest.com for example
[11:40] <drummer87> hey, does anyone here play Quake3? I'm not sure how to install it..
[11:40] <fluffybunny_> setite: ok, well, someone with a gmail address can also invite :)
[11:40] <azriel0184> Ng: there are times i just want to know what to do to install something... i just pile all the instruction into a .sh file and run it and leave it alone for a while
[11:40] <setite> hehe ok
[11:40] <alonso> adios
[11:40] <azriel0184> to each his own
[11:40] <Ng> azriel0184: :)
[11:40] <setite> yea bytetest.com is a good place... that have 8654 invites remaining
[11:41] <setite> so anyone who wante the devil mail go get it
[11:41] <setite> i read that your gmail can be found on google
[11:41] <setite> so im scared to use it
[11:42] <kemik> setite:  where did you read that ?
[11:42] <omp342> hi guys
[11:42] <setite> kemik: ill try and find it...
[11:42] <omp342> i'm thinking of making the switch from fedora to ubuntu
[11:42] <timtux> omeg, do it
[11:43] <azriel0184> setite: i would be interested to see it too
[11:43] <Ng> omp342: good call :)
[11:43] <omp342> =] 
[11:43] <laxise> Ng: can you perform system wide update?  From warty to hoary?
[11:43] <drummer87> i guess noone has quake3 then...
[11:44] <azriel0184> laxise: "can" and "should" are different words
[11:44] <laxise> azriel0184: I know ... and I said CAN
[11:44] <fluffybunny_> setite: i can't find my mail on google... (i use gmail)
[11:44] <azriel0184> well, you can
[11:44] <azriel0184> just change your sources to hoary instead of warty
[11:44] <laxise> ok I supposed that
[11:44] <omp342> i'm downloading the amd64 version right now
[11:45] <Ng> laxise: yes, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all "warty" occurances with "hoary", then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". It'll need to download about 400-500mb though, so grabbing the CD and upgrading might not be a bad plan ;)
[11:45] <clem_yeats> laxise: you can update every single package... it's possible, but you may as well install hoary then.
[11:45] <omp342> unlike fedora, it's not going to take me 20 hours :D
[11:45] <setite> looking.. and for the record.. ubuntuguide is god
[11:45] <setite> its what i like... spoonfed answers
[11:45] <azriel0184> lol setite
[11:45] <setite> no bs... just a whole lotta ish in one page
[11:45] <laxise> Ng: great :)) ... I'm used to gentoo so... it is fun with ubutu :)
[11:46] <DukGalNamu> hey, would i break javascript if i removed the libjavaso file from the firefox plugins?
[11:46] <laxise> clem_yeats: yes, but the CD has same size so what is the difference
[11:46] <DukGalNamu> or would that only disable java?
[11:47] <Ng> laxise: hehe
[11:47] <setite> whats a good site for tech new
[11:47] <setite> s
[11:47] <omp342> since i'm gonna uninstall fedora so i can install ubuntu, if i delete fedora's installation what will happen to the bootloader fedora installed?
[11:47] <fluffybunny_> can anyone help me with adding repositories?
[11:48] <setite> im trying to find this article.. it was on a security news site
[11:48] <clem_yeats> DukGalNamu: That would only affect the plugin, not the java interpreter
[11:48] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: so i wouldn't be able to launch java apps, but i could still run java script?
[11:48] <clem_yeats> omp342: Ubuntu will ask you if you want to put grub in your MBR.
[11:48] <azriel0184> omp342: simple solution is just to delete all the partitions in the ubuntu installer, and let ubuntu install its boot loader. takes care of everything
[11:49] <clem_yeats> DukGalNamu: well... there is no such thing as java scripts.
[11:49] <clem_yeats> DukGalNamu: well... the interpreter "java" runs apps.
[11:49] <omp342> its because im worried deleting the fedora partition would mess up the bootloader and i wont be able to get into xp
[11:49] <michele> clem_yeats, well... there's beanshell :)
[11:49] <clem_yeats> hmm...
[11:49] <azriel0184> ohh, your on a dual boot...
[11:50] <omp342> yes
[11:50] <azriel0184> you can add it after ubuntu installs?
[11:50] <clem_yeats> dukgalnamu: what use do you have of java ?
[11:50] <azriel0184> in fact, ubuntu should detect it and add it itself? someone correct me if im wrong
[11:50] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: it keeps crashing firefox
[11:51] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: actually, i think it has something to do with my bookmarks....
[11:51] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu: well this is only the plugin..
[11:51] <Nathanial> When I try to update Ubuntu I get
[11:51] <Nathanial> "It is not possible to upgrade all packages.
[11:51] <Nathanial> This means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation."
[11:51] <Nathanial> The Following Pacakges Are not upgraded:
[11:51] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu: do you actually run java applications or not ?
[11:51] <Nathanial> mozilla-firefox
[11:51] <Nathanial> mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[11:52] <liable> omp342: just delete the partition in the installer, install ubuntu, it should dtect windows no problem..
[11:52] <Nathanial> Is there something I'm supposed to do before update?
[11:52] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: i actually moved my original config folder for firefox and started a new one and everything was fine, bt when i moved my bookmarks it crashed...
[11:52] <omp342> ok
[11:52] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: i was
[11:52] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: not anymore
[11:52] <omp342> so i should delete the partition in the ubuntu installer and not in partitionmagic?
[11:53] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu: so you're only using the java plugin in order to run applets
[11:53] <laxise> do NOT do ever linux partitions in partition magic!
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: was
[11:53] <omp342> i made my fedora partition in partition magic
[11:53] <omp342> and it worked fine
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: until i deleted it a couple of seconds ago
[11:53] <laxise> you did what? ext2 or ext3?
[11:53] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu: well... you said the problem only occured when you restored your bookmarks
[11:54] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu: check the files permissions.. owners.. etc.
[11:54] <laxise> as I remember it made error in journal
[11:54] <laxise> file
[11:54] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: yeah, although the problem persisted with yahoo
[11:54] <omp342> ext3
[11:54] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: i still crashed when trying to log out of yahoo
[11:54] <omp342> i made a 2gb swap partition and a 60gb ext3 partition
[11:55] <omp342> and installed fedora
[11:55] <omp342> it was fine
[11:55] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: is it possible i fried my cpu?
[11:55] <setite> i cant find the article... but i remember what it said... something about someone found their email over google...
[11:55] <fluffybunny_> aha, found it (after some time): if you are worried about security on gmail, take a look at this slashdot article:  http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4707
[11:55] <laxise> the problem was that...it worked ok.  However, if you wanted to resize the partition you get error and you can't do anything with fdisk.  Perhaps they corrected this problem in last version, however, I have tested it with 8.01 and the problem remained
[11:55] <liable> azriel0184: check xserver log, see if it gives any clues.
[11:55] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  no :))
[11:55] <setite> fluffybunny_: you dound it?
[11:55] <azriel0184> liable: ???
[11:55] <omp342> i have 8.01 =/
[11:55] <liable> azriel0184: sorry
[11:55] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: cause it was getting pretty hot...
[11:56] <laxise> the update: 490MB & 250MB needed ;)
[11:56] <laxise> nice
[11:56] <clem_yeats> dukgalnamu : if your CPU had fried you wouldn't even be able to start your machine anymore.
[11:56] <laxise> omp342: so just pray :)
[11:56] <omp342> so i should just format the fedora partition in ubuntu installation
[11:56] <omp342> and install ubuntu
[11:56] <omp342> and evertyhing will be fine?
[11:57] <omp342> everything*
[11:57] <clem_yeats> omp342: yes
[11:57] <arphetic> How do I close the xserver?
[11:57] <laxise> I have got errors from fdisk, however, I think if it runs correctly (fdisk) then you should be just fine
[11:57] <setite> no thats not it
[11:57] <liable> omp342: yeah, should work no problems.
[11:57] <omp342> ok
[11:58] <omp342> would it be possible to read files from my windows (ntfs) partition in ubuntu?
[11:58] <laxise> read yes
[11:58] <clem_yeats> omp342: yes, definitely
[11:58] <omp342> okay
[11:58] <laxise> there could be problems if you have special chars outside English language
[11:59] <setite> omp342: of course
[11:59] <setite> !ntfs
[11:59] <setite> ubotu dont pm me
[11:59] <ubotu> setite: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:59] <laxise> you would have to specify the char set you want it to mount with
[11:59] <laxise> otherwise everything should be just fine
[11:59] <laxise> reading is safe
[11:59] <setite> !automaticallymountntfspartitions
[11:59] <ubotu> Not a clue, setite
[11:59] <setite> read your links ubotu
[12:00] <bina> hi, how to i reconfigure X :)
[12:00] <bina> dpkg something
[12:00] <bina> not sure what the package is called
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: not true, there could be minor errors in the cpu taht are caused by overheating that only show up every millionth calculation...
[12:00] <laxise> there is even a project, dont' remember the name now, but it uses windows ntfs.dll library to make it totally writable & readable in linux but it is not trivial to do so
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: i forget what it is called, but bits get lost in the silicon or jump wires and screw things up
[12:01] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: the hotter the cpu the more likely it is of happening, and once it happens.... its gone
[12:02] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  well I wouldn't be too worried about that.
[12:02] <setite> heres a weird thing
[12:03] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  does your system freeze ?
[12:03] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: no just the browser
[12:03] <setite> i remember a program that made you actually read the agreement at the beginning of the installer... it counted how long you could see each line
[12:03] <omp342> btw, is it easy to get wine running on ubuntu?
[12:03] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: and i tired opera also, it freezes too
[12:03] <Angel-SL> omp342: yes
[12:03] <Angel-SL> apt-get it
[12:03] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  when firefox crashes, does the window simply disappears ?
[12:03] <michele> !tell laxise about captive
[12:03] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: nope, it just freezes and thinks its loading something
[12:04] <omp342> okay, cause counter-strike: source is an important part of my life :D
[12:04] <setite> can you believe gmail wont let my use the password i want
[12:04] <Angel-SL> !tell omp342 about wine
[12:04] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  does the display in the window refreshes ?
[12:04] <catfox> ooh, i see breezy has a boot splash :) anyone have a screenshot?
[12:04] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: no
[12:04] <setite> because its common.. the nerve... the NOIVE!
[12:04] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: when i roll it up and bring it back down it is see through
[12:04] <fluffybunny_> lol
[12:04] <laxise> michele: thx
[12:05] <omp342> ok, i'm off to sleep. once i wake up i can start installing ubuntu :D
[12:05] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  see, if your CPU fried the way you said, this would alter calculation regardless of the process... and things would go weird a bit everywhere rather than simply for firefox.
[12:05] <laxise> couldn't it was longer time I played with it
[12:05] <kemik> setite: well, that's just common security praxis
[12:05] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: opera also experiences this problem
[12:05] <kemik> setite: password "hello" wouldnt be a great choice ;)
[12:05] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: you know what?
[12:05] <hussam> what's the latest news on breezy? is it stablizing?
[12:05] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu:  it must be something to do with something they share then.
[12:06] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: i sould probably go for a ful system update....
[12:06] <clem_yeats> dukGalNamu: is Opera using the java plugin as well ?
[12:06] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: not possible cause i just deleted the plugin...
[12:06] <setite> 'http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
[12:07] <arphetic> www.google-watch.com
[12:07] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: i will go for full system update...
[12:07] <kemik> tssk
[12:07] <Frafra> hi all
[12:07] <arphetic> www.google-watch-watch.com
[12:07] <arphetic> :/
[12:07] <Angel-SL> !tell setite about spam
[12:07] <setite> kemik: no app has ever done that... they will tell me its no good... but thats all
[12:07] <kemik> setite:  i find gmail much better than the other web.mail solutiosn (yahoo, hotmail)
[12:07] <Angel-SL> :/
[12:07] <setite> hey im just trying to show the things i read
[12:07] <Frafra> if I upgrade from hoary to breezy, X will works or I must edit something? exist a guide?
[12:07] <kemik> setite:  try setting your ubuntu pass to "hello" ?
[12:07] <kemik> setite: oh, it was an actual url :)
[12:08] <setite> i use the several accounts that come with my ISP... free email is not necessary for me
[12:08] <setite> yea its a real site
[12:08] <kemik> i've got 4 emails that i use... 2webmails and 2 "real" accounts
[12:08] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: should i have alot of extra space after updateing a system??
[12:09] <DukGalNamu> clem_yeats: ohh, NM, i thought it was mb, it was kb
[12:10] <fluffybunny_> yeah, i have a hotmail spam account for surfing when you are obliged to register or enter you email at some sites
[12:10] <Heimdall> will there be the 2.6 version of wxwidgets on packages for ubuntu ?
[12:11] <setite> yay i have two gmails that ill never use
[12:11] <fluffybunny_> anyone know why I can't download the hoary-extras repository?
[12:11] <Seveas> yes
[12:11] <Seveas> but not for Hoary
[12:11] <Seveas> setite, want another 10? :)
[12:11] <Seveas> fluffybunny_, what's the error?
[12:11] <fluffybunny_> Failed to download
[12:11] <fluffybunny_> it downloaded all the rest
[12:12] <Seveas> try another mirror :)
[12:12] <fluffybunny_> address?
[12:12] <fluffybunny_> :)
[12:12] <fluffybunny_> please (sorry, bad manners)
[12:12] <kemik> setite:  hmm, that page brings up some serious stuff
[12:12] <Seveas> They can be found at backports/ubuntuforums.org
[12:12] <fluffybunny_> Seveas: thanks
[12:13] <setite> yea
[12:13] <setite> whoa email is not a protected communication anymore?
[12:13] <Seveas> never was
[12:13] <FLeiXiuS> setite: Take your rant elsewhere please
[12:13] <Seveas> unless you gpg-encrypt all :)
[12:14] <setite> rant eh... thats an odd interpretation...
[12:14] <Seveas> quite (unless I missed a bit)
[12:14] <DukGalNamu> !gdb
[12:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, DukGalNamu
[12:14] <DukGalNamu> ...
[12:15] <DukGalNamu> what is gdb?
[12:15] <Seveas> it's a debugger
[12:15] <guillem> I've some trouble with my DVD-RAM, it is slower than I expected
[12:15] <DukGalNamu> ahh
[12:15] <guillem> And thant it should be
[12:15] <Seveas> If you don't know how to use it and have no imminent need to: don't try it
[12:15] <Seveas> it's horrible to use
[12:15] <setite> why doesnt this room kick inactive people
[12:15] <Seveas> guillem, dma turned on?
[12:15] <DukGalNamu> dvd-ram?
[12:15] <guillem> Seveas, how do I turn it on?
[12:16] <Seveas> hdparm -d1 /dev/YOUR_DRIVE
[12:16] <Ng> !dma
[12:16] <guillem> DukGalNamu, a very nice DVD type
[12:16] <guillem> Ng ????
[12:16] <eliphas_> i don't speak much but i read a lot
[12:16] <Ng> guillem: type what I just did, a bot will msg you some details
[12:16] <Ng> I thought it was going to say it here, but obviously not ;)
[12:16] <Seveas> !tell guillem about dma
[12:16] <guillem> !dma
[12:16] <Ng> although I do dislike such bots because they always have terrible wording ;)
[12:16] <Ng> "dma is like totally" for example
[12:17] <Seveas> hehe
[12:17] <kemik> setite:  why should it kick inactive ppl ?? what would be the use?
[12:17] <Ng> that looks like a 12 year old wrote it ;(
[12:17] <DukGalNamu> 12yr old vally girl....
[12:17] <guillem> Ng, I still don't get it. sorry. I don't understand the ! thing at all...
[12:17] <Seveas> guillem, ubotu just told you something about dma
[12:17] <DukGalNamu> guillem: it is something bots look for
[12:18] <Seveas> that's what the ! thing causes
[12:18] <setite> kemik: im used to seeing it... its better for the server... i mean like people who leave their pc on for days
[12:18] <DukGalNamu> guillem: when they see that they respond
[12:18] <guillem> Seveas, can I have the drive mounted or do I have to umount, hdparm and mount again?
[12:18] <Seveas> setite, that's nonsense...
[12:18] <guillem> bash: !dma: event not found
[12:18] <Seveas> guillem, hehe, !dma is for in this channel
[12:18] <setite> hey i tried to do a /list and couldnt because the server is overloaded
[12:19] <Seveas> hdparm -d1 /dev/YOUR_DRIV is for in bash
[12:19] <DukGalNamu> yeah!!! xine update
[12:19] <Seveas> and it can be done while mounted
[12:19] <guillem> Seveas, HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[12:20] <guillem> \!dma
[12:20] <Seveas> guillem, sudo hdparm
[12:20] <Seveas> it needs root privileges
[12:20] <guillem> Seveas,  I did sudo...
[12:20] <DukGalNamu> ,hooray
[12:20] <DukGalNamu> ohh'
[12:21] <DukGalNamu> !hooray
[12:21] <ubotu> DukGalNamu: Are you on ritalin?
[12:21] <kirky2> \o/
[12:21] <DukGalNamu> hehe
[12:21] <DukGalNamu> i need to change it
[12:22] <guillem> Ng, at last I understood the ! thing, thanks
[12:23] <Ng> guillem: sorry, it's not very clear/simple ;)
[12:23] <guillem> Seveas, my drive refuses changing the DMA
[12:25] <setite> so this skype is free calling?
[12:25] <rob^> yep
[12:26] <DukGalNamu> ,hooray
[12:26] <selinium> setite: pc to pc yes
[12:26] <kirky2> \o/
[12:26] <setite> no sh**?  i thought that sutff died
[12:26] <DukGalNamu> yeah
[12:26] <setite> oh.. pc to pc
[12:26] <setite> ok
[12:26] <setite> i miss that pc to phone thing
[12:26] <setite> it was prank call heaven
[12:26] <DukGalNamu> ,lick setite
[12:26] <kirky2> ACTION licks setite
[12:26] <selinium> setite: you can pay for pc to phone, at a much reduced rate. From british costs anyway
[12:26] <setite> man that was a while ago
[12:26] <DukGalNamu> ...
[12:27] <setite> yea well i was young... it was free.. and they didnt know it was me
[12:27] <setite> i tortured my evil principal
[12:27] <DukGalNamu> ,slap setite
[12:27] <setite> dont lick me.. wtf
[12:27] <kirky2> ACTION slaps setite
[12:27] <DukGalNamu> there
[12:27] <DukGalNamu> muhahahahaha
[12:27] <DukGalNamu> its not working actually
[12:28] <rob^> kirky2, stop doing that it looks ugly
[12:28] <redguy> something's wrong with that bot
[12:28] <DukGalNamu> there should be more
[12:28] <selinium> setite: you can also pay for an incoming telephone number. Allowing you to have the same telephone number, no matter where you are in the world.
[12:28] <DukGalNamu> ,pee setite
[12:28] <kirky2> ACTION walks up behind setite
[12:28] <guillem> Seveas, btw, hdparm -i tells me the drive is using udma2, is that enough?
[12:28] <setite> selinium: yea i know abotu all that stuff... but free is free
[12:28] <DukGalNamu> see
[12:28] <setite> .kick DukGalNamu
[12:28] <selinium> setite: :)
[12:28] <setite> lame bot
[12:28] <DukGalNamu> lol
[12:29] <DukGalNamu> ,kirk
[12:29] <kirky2> KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!
[12:29] <Ng> guillem: should be
[12:29] <DukGalNamu> ,2101
[12:29] <kirky2> sombody set up us the bomb
[12:29] <DukGalNamu> :P
[12:30] <DukGalNamu> ,bye
[12:30] <kirky2> DukGalNamu: may God be with you!
[12:31] <fluffybunny_> need some help with the ubuntu gui file browser - how can I view a folder tree, like in windows, when browsing my files
[12:32] <icewt> fluffybunny_, view -> side pane, select "tree" from the list
[12:32] <setite> oh there is audacity for linux?
[12:32] <setite> nice
[12:32] <setite> i love audacity.. great free app for phone ringtones
[12:33] <fluffybunny_> icewt: thanks!
[12:33] <setite> thats it... i need thunderbird... these email apps stink
[12:33] <kemik> setite:  evolution ?
[12:33] <Ng> setite: audacity for linux is a multi-track sequencer, nothing to do with ringtones ;)
[12:34] <Ng> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[12:34] <Ng> ehh, not a sequencer, a sound editor
[12:36] <guillem> Ng, it is really extrange... the performance depends heavily on the filesystem type. If I use udf and I mount it with sync,noatime, I get a soo-poor performance of 65Kb/s meanwhile if I use reiserfs, with sync,nolog,noatime I get a performance of 1.9Mb/s
[12:37] <setite> Ng: au contrair frerer.. it is the perfect app for shrinking a audio clip... making it mono and the right freq for a ringtone
[12:37] <Ng> setite: bah, you kids and your mp3 ringtones ;)
[12:37] <setite> kemik: ill give evolution one last look... but i recall not liking it.. and im not liking contact much either...
[12:38] <Sonderblade> why does the zope package want to install python2.2 and zope2.7 wants python2.3 but i want zope with python2.4
[12:38] <setite> Ng: .wav but yea... i like them because it allows my tones to be customized.. but more than that i make them loud enough that i can hear them
[12:38] <azriel0184> setite: have you tried outlook or telnet?
[12:38] <azriel0184> ;)
[12:39] <guillem> Ng, I had seen that weirdness with my usb-stick (which I have formatted as reiserfs for that reason)- I thought it was something related to my old laptop... but now I see that it is something more general :-((
[12:39] <setite> azriel0184: you really ARE the devil.. shame on you
[12:39] <azriel0184> heh, they are almost as bad as each other...
[12:39] <Ng> guillem: pretty strange. it might be worth investigating the IDE chipset you have, maybe you're using a generic kernel IDE driver and there could be a more suitable one. laptops tend to be a bit weird ;)
[12:40] <teleyinex> why i cant install vim-python in hoary?
[12:40] <antoine_> Hi All ^^
[12:40] <guillem> Ng, is there any reason that reiserfs behaves better? junksize of reads/writes or something like that?
[12:40] <antoine_> Wine CVS version return me "Could not load wineserver" is that for you ?
[12:40] <Raskall> how can I find out which drivers ubuntu use for hardware and the source for them? A friend has an Atmel (actually 3com) wifi pcmcia card that works plug and play in breezy with kernel 2.6.12. But he is a Fedora (core 4) user and I am unable to find drivers that will compile on fc4
[12:40] <Ng> guillem: reiser is a pretty good fs
[12:41] <setite> someone who is against ubuntuguide let me know why...
[12:41] <guillem> Ng, I've seen that mounting as udf but without sync, behaves better: umounting time at async is much lower than copy time for the sync case
[12:41] <rob^> setite, it is a bunch of instructions without explinations
[12:41] <volvoguy> hey all. i just booted up my Toshiba laptop with the colony 3 live cd to see what works without the hard drive issues in the picture. surprisingly my wireless stuff all works, x starts up and i can move the cursor with the trackpad, and i hear the login chime. unfortunately except for the cursor, the screen is black and i can't switch to another console. i thought i'd seen this issue somewhere but i can't find anything now. any
[12:41] <volvoguy> body have any hints?
[12:41] <waxhead> hey everyone
[12:41] <setite> yea whats wrong with that...
[12:41] <rob^> setite, all of it unofficial, untested
[12:42] <Ng> guillem: I'm not sure about udf, I've only used it on DVDs and the drive is the limiting factor there ;)
[12:42] <setite> ok... unofficial...
[12:42] <setite> any reports of breakage?
[12:42] <rob^> many
[12:42] <zkimel> any Galeon users here?
[12:42] <rob^> a fully tested, open and official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy
[12:43] <setite> good
[12:43] <setite> because the ubuntu wiki has broken my ubuntu more than the ubuntuguide
[12:43] <rob^> yes
[12:43] <setite> trying to get my mouse working broke my ubuntu beyond repair
[12:43] <rob^> the new one is based of ubuntuguide
[12:44] <rob^> but it will be heaps better
[12:44] <setite> well all i can think to make it better would be updating... and adding more to it
[12:44] <setite> it needs to be a full guide
[12:45] <rob^> setite, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects
[12:45] <setite> sure.....
[12:45] <guillem> Ng, this is out of filesystem performance issues, this is something related to how data is transferred... I've just checked that udf behaves simmilar to reiserfs when udf is mounted async.
[12:46] <guillem> Ng, I will have to check it with my usbstick...
[12:46] <Ng> guillem: well async delays writes, so the write speed you are being told is probably not true ;)
[12:46] <Ng> and usbsticks are generally best mounted sync
[12:46] <Ng> so you can unplug them at any time and not have to care about writeback cache
[12:46] <guillem> Ng, I'm computing the time of umounting the drive after a large file copied
[12:46] <setite> hey how do i run tuxracer without restarting
[12:47] <guillem> Ng, I know that issue... but I can live with it
[12:47] <rob^> setite, open a terminal, type "tuxracer"
[12:47] <guillem> Ng, sudo mount -t udf -o noatime /dev/hda/ /media/dvdram/
[12:47] <guillem> Ng, time cp LargeFile /media/dvdram/tmp/.; sudo time umount /media/dvdram/
[12:47] <setite> ok... how do i get it to run in a window
[12:48] <setite> it ran fullscreen.. with black all over
[12:48] <rob^> setite, there might be an option within the program, do you have 3d drivers installed for your graphics card?
[12:48] <guillem> Ng this gives about 18sec vs. 17sec at sync reiserfs... I'm going to check reiserfs async...
[12:49] <michele> rob^, why is the faq guide referring to vim as a text editor?
[12:49] <setite> yes i do
[12:50] <rob^> michele, don't use it yet, its still just a preview
[12:50] <setite> michele: just use nano....
[12:50] <setite> or gedit...
[12:50] <setite> vim is evil
[12:50] <michele> setite, I know what to use. Just asking
[12:50] <Ng> setite: !
[12:50] <Ng> vim > *
[12:50] <rob^> it will be gedit for ubuntu
[12:50] <guillem> Ng, reiserfs behaves simmilarly mounted sync or async...
[12:50] <roj> heya kids...
[12:50] <asparagus> I have installed Mac OSX after install ubuntu on my powerbook and now it keeps booting to OSX...whad do i need to modify to be able to choose what OS to use
[12:50] <Ng> guillem: in theory I would expect sync/async to end up taking about the same for the operation you are testing
[12:51] <guillem> Ng, Thats true! that is what I'm investigating...
[12:51] <guillem> Ng, I recall my old RH7.3 box working OK with my usbstick with other filesystem rather than reiserfs (ext2)
[12:52] <guillem> Ng, I thought it was a hardware problem but now I see that it is something related to ubuntu. Maybe the kernel, ...
[12:52] <roj> i have just finished mucking around with the live cd i got in the mail today... and im ready to install on my pc... i've got a spare 20gig hd so im gunna go onto that... can anyone tell me what the likelyhood of killing my winxp install with installing ubuntu?!?
[12:52] <Ng> guillem: bizarre. might be worth filing a bug or talking to some ubuntu developers
[12:52] <rob^> roj, you have the power
[12:52] <roj> sweet... :)
[12:53] <guillem> Ng, how can I do that?
[12:53] <rob^> roj, just don't format the ntfs drive and all will be good
[12:53] <volvoguy> asparagus, i haven't tried this on my mac yet, but i assume the x86 method would work. just boot up the install disk and go through to the bootloader stage (without modifying your disks of course).
[12:53] <Ng> guillem: to file a bug go to bugzilla.ubuntu.com, to talk to developers I think there's a #ubuntu-devel, if not there's the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[12:53] <roj> rob^ : nice... any other little tips on the install?!?
[12:53] <guillem> Ng, I really want to see this solved... Thanks for your help and support.
[12:53] <rob^> !dualboot
[12:53] <ubotu> I guess dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:54] <rob^> roj, check out what ubotu said
[12:54] <roj> cool :)
[12:54] <Ng> guillem: no probs, good luck :)
[12:55] <rob^> roj, if you already have the free unpartitioned space for ubuntu you should find it easy enough
[12:55] <roj> i wanna put it on a sep 20gig...
[12:55] <volvoguy> i'll check back with my issue later when i'm not falling asleep at my keyboard. later all.
[12:56] <roj> ahh yea, i get whatcha mean...
[12:57] <roj> cheers for that rob... fingers crossed ill be back here shortly on the light side of the force...
[01:00] <asparagus> I have installed Mac OSX after install ubuntu on my powerbook and now it keeps booting to OSX...whad do i need to modify to be able to choose what OS to use
[01:01] <kemik> !grub
[01:01] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:01] <kemik> dont know if the same applies to osx ;)
[01:03] <michele> asparagus, change your startup volume from system preferences
[01:03] <asparagus> michele, in osx?
[01:03] <michele> asparagus, set it to your ubuntu volume and you'll see the yaboot boot screen
[01:03] <michele> asparagus, yes
[01:04] <asparagus> michele, i dont think i can see that startup volume from osx
[01:04] <michele> asparagus, or you could boot your system with the option key pressed and it will ask you
[01:04] <michele> asparagus, try with the option key. if that work, you'll see that from osx too
[01:04] <asparagus> michele, i want the system to default on yaboot
[01:04] <asparagus> just press "o" at startup?
[01:05] <michele> go and verify then
[01:05] <michele> option
[01:05] <michele> alt
[01:05] <michele> press 'option', power on the mac and keep the key pressed until a blue screen with buttons appears
[01:07] <Heimdall> is this possible to change the font size in emacs ?
[01:07] <Heimdall> mine is too big
[01:07] <kameron> so.. i guess i'll ask this question again. i installed the AMD64 version of 5.04, and installed the bootloader at the MBR of the first drive, with the os on the primary slave, windows is at primary master. when it boots, i get a grub prompt, and all them commands i can type in don't do jack. i can't boot to an os. since, i have reinstalled the windows bootloader. can i now fix the grub bootloader, by installing it again, or can i put l
[01:08] <asparagus> michele, i only get one button..the partition with osx
[01:08] <rob^> Heimdall, "killall emacs" then "vim"
[01:09] <Heimdall> raaah rob^
[01:09] <Heimdall> this is not a solution :)
[01:09] <michele> asparagus, I guess you don't have yaboot installed, then
[01:09] <rob^> Heimdall, works for me :P
[01:09] <Heimdall> haha :)
[01:09] <michele> !start an editor war
[01:09] <ubotu> kwrite is better than emacs
[01:09] <Heimdall> yeah great, glad for you  ;-)
[01:09] <asparagus> hmm i had it when i i had ubuntu
[01:09] <paines> Heimdall, you can modifey .Xressources
[01:09] <paines> Heimdall, which would result in diffrent fots in emacs
[01:10] <Heimdall> paines, .Xressources ?
[01:10] <asparagus> michele, is it not a screen that asked me to choose if i wanted to boot from drive or cd
[01:10] <Heimdall> where is it
[01:10] <paines> Heimdall, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Euro-Char-Support.html step 5+6
[01:12] <Heimdall> paines, euro support ????
[01:12] <paines> Heimdall, step 6
[01:12] <Heimdall> yeah
[01:13] <owtput> hi guys, have any of you compiled (via jhbuilder) gnome 2.12?
[01:13] <Heimdall> set face font
[01:13] <Heimdall> do I have to type this in the minibuffer ?
[01:13] <paines> Heimdall, no in them ~/.emacs file
[01:13] <paines> -m
[01:13] <owtput> +muted
[01:14] <miketech> Hi
[01:15] <clem_yeats> hi
[01:15] <miketech> is xinerama compiled in xorg?
[01:15] <clem_yeats> it's a separate product miketech I think
[01:15] <miketech> hm?
[01:16] <miketech> i have to compile it separately?
[01:16] <clem_yeats> I think so yes
[01:16] <miketech> ohh
[01:16] <miketech> this could be the reason *g*
[01:16] <miketech> since 5 days i try to get xorg working with 2 screens
[01:16] <clem_yeats> I'm not sure..
[01:16] <clem_yeats> I'm not sure at all actually
[01:17] <miketech> :) oki
[01:18] <miketech> i will try it again
[01:20] <Heimdall> thx paines it works
[01:20] <paines> Heimdall, nice.NP
[01:22] <hansi_xp> hello
[01:22] <clem_yeats> hello
[01:22] <hansi_xp> i need help, i'm trying to install java in linux and i installed a bin file, what is that?
[01:23] <clem_yeats> binary file
[01:23] <clem_yeats> copy it in /opt
[01:23] <michele> miketech, xinerama is in xorg
[01:23] <hansi_xp> sorry, i mean i can't install it
[01:23] <clem_yeats> go in /opt
[01:23] <michele> mikelds, I'm using it right now
[01:23] <thoreauputic> !java
[01:23] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:23] <clem_yeats> hansi_xp : just run the file : ./myfile.bin
[01:23] <kameron> so.. i guess i'll ask this question again. i installed the AMD64 version of 5.04, and installed the bootloader at the MBR of the first drive, with the os on the primary slave, windows is at primary master. when it boots, i get a grub prompt, and all them commands i can type in don't do jack. i can't boot to an os. since, i have reinstalled the windows bootloader. can i now fix the grub bootloader, by installing it again, or can i put l
[01:24] <michele> miketech, my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/339342
[01:24] <clem_yeats> hansi_xp : eventually set the permissions for execution.. chmod a+x myfile.bin
[01:24] <hansi_xp> i tried to run the file double click on it, or type in bash but it says permision denied
[01:24] <clem_yeats> change the permission then : chmod a+x file.bin
[01:24] <nightswim> set the executable bit
[01:25] <michele> hansi_xp, there's a java howto in the wiki
[01:25] <michele> !java
[01:25] <ubotu> from memory, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:25] <clem_yeats> then run it from the shell.
[01:25] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: he wants too install java - ubotu's link will tell him how
[01:25] <michele> don't install that bin
[01:25] <hansi_xp> okay thanks dudes, i'll go read a bit.
[01:25] <clem_yeats> well, if I can help him here why shouldn't I ?
[01:26] <clem_yeats> one can always read docs...
[01:26] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: becuse installing java is trivially eay once you read that link
[01:26] <thoreauputic> *easy
[01:27] <clem_yeats> hmm I'm not quite sure.
[01:28] <clem_yeats> this affects your firefox plugin.
[01:28] <duality_> hi! I want to play my mp3s with xmms. So I've installed xmms and also mikmod (cause I have nVidia card), first following instructions at ubuntuguide.org and then at ubuntu's wiki FAQ. But when I run an mp3 with xmms (or some other player), it becomes unresponsive...
[01:28] <duality_> but it used to work before (with some other player)
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> !xmms-mp3
[01:28] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I don't know
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[01:28] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:29] <thoreauputic> duality set the output plugin in xmms to easound
[01:29] <duality_> I did that already
[01:29] <thoreauputic> *esound
[01:29] <Trauerweide> is here an German Channel too ?
[01:29] <duality_> when I installed the multimedia codecs it was a problem with a few
[01:29] <chris__> Trauerweide, #ubuntu-de
[01:29] <duality_> thoreauputic: how do I do that?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Trauerweide:  #ubuntu-de
[01:30] <Trauerweide> thx !
[01:30] <thoreauputic> duality_: options - preferences -
[01:30] <duality_> ok, got it
[01:30] <duality_> gonna try it now
[01:31] <thoreauputic> k
[01:31] <duality_> yey, it works! :)
[01:31] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:31] <duality_> why did I have to change it to this?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> gnome uses esd to channel the sound to your sound device
[01:32] <thoreauputic> ie. esound
[01:32] <srijith> thoreauputic: have u used mp3blaster urself?
[01:32] <duality_> and is it legal for xmms to have suuuch a similar interface as winamp?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> srijith: yes a bit - I prefer cplay :)
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> duality_, why not ? the interface isn't copyrighted
[01:33] <thoreauputic> duality_: yes - xmms has been around for years and no-one has sued ;-)
[01:33] <duality_> ok, cool :)
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> if they call it linamp ... they might be in trouble though
[01:33] <thoreauputic> srijith: problems?
[01:33] <clem_yeats> there was a "linamp" wasn't there ?
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> there was ?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:35] <PAK_013> i need some info on instaling ubuntu on ibook G3 tangerine... if somebody can help me... private please... thanks
[01:35] <iiiears> Hello!
[01:35] <thoreauputic> bonjour!
[01:36] <srijith> thoreauputic: how do I get mp3blaster to play files one after the other. I have added them to the playlist but the damn thing stops after each song and I need to tell it to play the next
[01:36] <iiiears> thoreauputic - reading that Microsoft's Genuine Advantage app is tuned to look for virtual machines and not patch/upgrade them.
[01:36] <thoreauputic> srijith: yeah I gave up on mp3blaster for that very reason - couldn't be bothered learning the silly interface
[01:37] <srijith> thoreauputic: not that cplay's interface is that great ;)
[01:37] <thoreauputic> srijith: so.. I don't know really
[01:37] <thoreauputic> srijith: heheh - at least it works
[01:37] <rob^> iiiears, its not too sucessful apparently
[01:37] <thoreauputic> srijith: type  "h" for help!
[01:37] <hussam> anybody here on breezy? I have a question
[01:38] <srijith> thoreauputic: how do I get the playlist view in cplay, for instance?
[01:38] <srijith> thoreauputic: will do that :)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> srijith: I do cplay @ /path/to/music
[01:38] <iiiears> rob^ - web fable or truth also saw a somone claiming to be able to fetch updates for his Wine installation. - lol
[01:39] <rob^> iiiears, I'm sure I read something on /. the other day
[01:39] <BollocksMacenzie> Anyone know how the hotplug system works for PCMCIA...
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> BollocksMacenzie, my laptop can read my wireless card fine ... yours got problem ?
[01:40] <srijith> thoreauputic: thanks for the hand holding! appreciate it..
[01:40] <thoreauputic> srijith: no problem at all :)
[01:41] <MAPD> hi
[01:41] <BollocksMacenzie> wickedpuppy: No it's not that, I just wanted to customise the script so it changes the firewall, network monitor and turns off the eth when the wi-fi card is inserted!
[01:41] <thoreauputic> srijith: BTW I meant type "h" after you open cplay - the -h flag tells you almost nothing
[01:41] <MAPD> i have a few questions please
[01:41] <srijith> thoreauputic: yup, got that..
[01:41] <azriel0184> does ubuntu have software raid support?
[01:42] <clem_yeats> go on MAPD
[01:42] <MAPD> first when i installed linux it didnt ask to make a password for root user is that normal?
[01:42] <clem_yeats> yes MAPD, there is no root user in Ubuntu
[01:42] <MAPD> hum
[01:42] <thoreauputic> srijith: I wish I could work mp2blaster out properly - it seems quite powerful but I just found it frustrating (laziness i guess)
[01:42] <clem_yeats> MAPD : instead, you as a user can use sudo to do sysadmin stuff.
[01:42] <MAPD> but i opened thre console
[01:43] <MAPD> as root
[01:43] <thoreauputic> *mp3blaster
[01:43] <MAPD> and i changed root password
[01:43] <MAPD> did i act wrong?
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> no
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> you did nothing wrong
[01:43] <clem_yeats> MAPD: no it doesn't really matter.
[01:43] <MAPD> oki
[01:43] <MAPD> thank you
[01:43] <clem_yeats> MAPD: no problem
[01:43] <MAPD> my other question is
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> but use sudo for admin stuff :P instead of root shell
[01:44] <MAPD> i have download limits and i cant do updates normally as you do
[01:44] <MAPD> so i need to change synaptics and apt-get mirrors
[01:44] <MAPD> how do i do that?
[01:44] <hansi_xp> thanks clem_yeats. that chmod a+x myfile.bin worked good. where can i learn that sought of stuff
[01:44] <thoreauputic> !repos
[01:44] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:45] <clem_yeats> MAPD: http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[01:45] <BollocksMacenzie> Does anyone know what hotplug file would be called when my Ra2500 based wi-fi card is inserted?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[01:45] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:45] <clem_yeats> hansi_xp: what sort of stuff ?
[01:45] <clem_yeats> hansi_xp: unix commands ?
[01:45] <hansi_xp> general linux how to stuff. i don't know jack.
[01:45] <hansi_xp> like what makes something an executable
[01:46] <clem_yeats> hansi_xp: oh I love that game... anyway. Hum.. well.. buy a book about Unix.
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> hansi_xp, get a book from your local lib ?
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> that would be a start
[01:46] <MAPD> can i use a portuguese mirror for all?
[01:46] <roj> i've just installed 5.04 with lilo and on reboot, it just went straight to winxp without any lilo interaction... any ideas as to what I have done wrong or missed?!?
[01:46] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: you can start at http://tuxfiles.org
[01:46] <hansi_xp> i got a Sams teach yourself linux book, it sucks
[01:46] <mwest> hansi_xp: also check http://www.tldp.org/ and http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> hansi_xp, clearly there are many books out there
[01:46] <fluffybunny_> also, many linux books (eg linux for dummies) on emule
[01:47] <hansi_xp> i like linux though
[01:47] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: tuxfiles is pretty newb friendly- give it a look
[01:47] <MAPD> clem_yeats,  can i use a portuguese mirror for all?
[01:47] <mwest> hansi_xp: otherwise install something like "xman" and peruse all the man pages :-)
[01:47] <hansi_xp> thanks dudes
[01:47] <clem_yeats> hansi_xp : otherwise just look at google for "linux commands" or "unix commands".
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> !mirrors
[01:47] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> hmms ...
[01:47] <clem_yeats> nwest: :)
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> MAPD, i would say yes...but i don't know how to change mirrors
[01:47] <MAPD> oh
[01:48] <MAPD> i have problems of downloads
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms .. what errors?
[01:48] <MAPD> im going to join the portuguese network and ask to the community
[01:48] <dabar> you guys know how to set up  a firewall to be totally open? i dont want it to do anythinge except allow ip sharing
[01:48] <thoreauputic> MAPD: usually the country code is in the url before "archive" - like au.archive or pt.archive
[01:48] <vaina> salut
[01:48] <clem_yeats> dabar: just get rid of the firewall altogether then :)
[01:48] <dabar> salut!
[01:49] <clem_yeats> salut
[01:49] <dabar> I need it I think for IC sharing.
[01:49] <clem_yeats> IC ???
[01:49] <dabar> Ill try removing it I guess, see if IC sharing works then
[01:49] <duality_> if I want to run windows programs on linux, should I go for win4lin?
[01:49] <dabar> Internet connction
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> what is IC ?
[01:49] <clem_yeats> oh, no you don't
[01:49] <dabar> !windows
[01:49] <ubotu> windows is, like, Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[01:49] <MAPD> oops
[01:49] <MAPD> closed by mistake
[01:50] <clem_yeats> duality_ : try wine first.
[01:50] <duality_> hmmm... so which should I choose?
[01:50] <dabar> MAPD: you cant copme here more than once!...you were here already...
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> duality_, wine is free
[01:50] <duality_> what's it for?
[01:50] <dabar> heh
[01:50] <dabar> dued...windows emulating.
[01:50] <MAPD> yes i know
[01:50] <clem_yeats> dabar: you don't need the firewall for "IC"
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> i thought thats what you asked for duality_
[01:50] <zAo^> wine is not an emulator... :D
[01:50] <dabar> obviously...to run windows programsw...you asked for that...
[01:50] <MAPD> but i closed by mistake
[01:50] <dabar> really?
[01:50] <duality_> yeah, I know... but I guess that they are for different things
[01:51] <dabar> Il try now and tell you.
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> ? diferent things?
[01:51] <duality_> like crossover Office
[01:51] <dabar> duality_: good.
[01:51] <dabar> you passed the test/.
[01:51] <dabar> bah
[01:51] <duality_> probably isn't for all programs
[01:51] <decaf> wine tries to be an emulator
[01:51] <clem_yeats> dabar: you need to set the network with a gateway.
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> duality_, then pls tell us what program you want to emulate ? so we can suggest one for you ?
[01:51] <duality_> but when I read the ubuntuguide.org it said to try win4lin
[01:51] <dabar> Ill tell you now.
[01:51] <duality_> all sorts of programs
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> all sort ... get windows
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> i find it easier
[01:52] <duality_> I have windows
[01:52] <duality_> but I'm a linux noob and I want to sometimes run a windows program from within linux
[01:52] <thoreauputic> duality_: try to run native linux apps - it's better
[01:52] <dabar> duality_: try it.
[01:52] <duality_> is it possible to run games to?
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> duality_, for games try cedega
[01:52] <fluffybunny_> how do I turn on direct rendering
[01:52] <dabar> in the park, yes.
[01:53] <thoreauputic> duality_: cedega for games (windows games)
[01:53] <dabar> I like playing games in the park.
[01:53] <arphetic> MMM -> My screen is really shocky... ??
[01:53] <dabar> It is so much fun..
[01:53] <fluffybunny_> !direct rendering
[01:53] <ubotu> I don't know, fluffybunny_
[01:53] <fluffybunny_> :(
[01:54] <clem_yeats> fluffybunny: you mean DRI ?
[01:54] <clem_yeats> !dri
[01:54] <ubotu> clem_yeats: Are you on ritalin?
[01:54] <clem_yeats> lol
[01:54] <fluffybunny_> clem_yeats: yes
[01:54] <dabar> clem_yeats: in fact, you need the IP masquerading thing for an IC sharing.
[01:54] <fluffybunny_> !dri
[01:55] <MAPD> uuuuuuuuu
[01:55] <dabar> god my wrist is funked up.
[01:55] <clem_yeats> dabar: depends on your conf.
[01:55] <dabar> clem_yeats: how so?
[01:55] <clem_yeats> fluffybunny: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <arphetic> <- how do I shut down Xserver thingie to update drivers?
[01:55] <clem_yeats> fluffybunny: load glx
[01:55] <clem_yeats> fluffybunny: load dri
[01:55] <thoreauputic> arphetic:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:55] <clem_yeats> dabar: did you set the gateway ?
[01:56] <arphetic> thoreauputic: do i have to do that while in Xserver or while in terminal?
[01:56] <clem_yeats> dabar: can your computers ping each others ?
[01:56] <dabar> what gateway?
[01:56] <dabar> ya
[01:56] <dabar> nt get online tho. the other one..
[01:56] <azriel0184> does ubuntu have software raid support?
[01:56] <decaf> azriel0184: yes
[01:56] <clem_yeats> dabar: what's the IP of the one connected to the net ?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> arphetic: doesn't matter - but be aware it will kill the display immediately
[01:56] <MAPD> how can i do some changes on the hello screen?
[01:57] <arphetic> Will i get in terminal then thoreauputic  ?
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> hello screen ?
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> arphetic, yes
[01:57] <fluffybunny_> clem_yeats: its already there
[01:57] <arphetic> k
[01:57] <thoreauputic> arphetic: you will get a tty - tty1 : black full screen
[01:57] <arphetic> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:57] <arphetic> to get in again?
[01:57] <azriel0184> !raid
[01:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[01:57] <clem_yeats> fluffybunny: hmm... there's a command to see if it works properly.. but that's all I know about it. I have dri deactivated on my machine.
[01:57] <fluffybunny_> clem_yeats: when I glxinfo, it tells me direct rendering: no
[01:58] <thoreauputic> arphetic: or "restart" yes
[01:58] <clem_yeats> I have to go..
[01:58] <clem_yeats> be back soon
[01:58] <fluffybunny_> clem_yeats: thanks
[01:58] <dabar> internaly, or externally? internally if you are looking for the gaterway setting, it is 192,168.0.1 and that is reflected on the Mac, in the router field, as is done on Macs. When I aptitude remove ipmasq, it dont work, when I aptitude install ipmasq, it do work:)...and...
[01:58] <BollocksMacenzie> Sorry, which hotplug file should I modify if I need to change the settings for a Rt2500 based wi-fi card?
[01:58] <fluffybunny_> !dri
[01:58] <ubotu> fluffybunny_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:58] <arphetic> k ty
[01:58] <dabar> dri.sf.net fluffybunny_.
[01:59] <dabar> my Internet conenction is fairly slow today, I dunno if its the stupid firewall(I hate firewalls) or just the connection.
[01:59] <dabar> heh
[01:59] <oxez> how can I make my system use ISO-8859-1 as default instead as UTF-8?
[01:59] <decaf> fluffybunny_: what's your video card?
[01:59] <dabar> shouldve testted that too when I removed ipmasq
[01:59] <Octave_Octet> Hi, I need to know what solutions I have to support an iPod FAT32 on hoary (I read you either need a 2.6.12 kernel or to recompile the kernel with specific options)
[01:59] <dabar> hi ogra.
[01:59] <MAPD> wickedpuppy, i wanted to change stuff here :P
[01:59] <Octave_Octet> and I would prefer to avoid recompiling
[02:00] <dabar> Im just lagging anyhow, its not the fw...:/
[02:00] <fluffybunny_> decaf: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M
[02:00] <MorphDK> Hey.. My Kopete won't connect to MSN.. It tells me that my password is wrong, but I know that it's the right one..
[02:01] <dabar> MorphDK: tried anyu other prog?
[02:01] <decaf> fluffybunny_: I asked because I installed dri support for my prosavage
[02:01] <Octave_Octet> MorphDK: You probably need to upgrade it
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> MorphDK, try gaim :P
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> !gaim
[02:01] <ubotu> methinks gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[02:01] <Octave_Octet> MorphDK: A few months ago the authentication for MSN changed
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> i can log in to msn with gaim
[02:01] <dabar> wtf is there to know about howto on gaim...
[02:01] <dabar> I guess..
[02:01] <Octave_Octet> MorphDK: And Kopete had to be upgraded to support it
[02:02] <MorphDK> Oh I see..
[02:02] <dabar> where is the md5sums shown for hoary cds?
[02:02] <dabar> found it
[02:02] <dabar> se ya seveas.
[02:03] <MorphDK> ehm.. one more question.. when I try to run e.g. Samba Configuration in Kcontrol, and click on "Administrator Mode", the border turns red, but nothing happens.. It doesn't ask for a password
[02:04] <Vivaldi> what's the kernel version in ubuntu by default?
[02:04] <Octave_Octet> MorphDK: You should check in #kubuntu
[02:05] <thoreauputic> Vivaldi: 2.6.10 for Hoary
[02:05] <iiiears> 2.6.10-5 386 no?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> Vivaldi: type uname -r to see
[02:05] <davro> fluffybunny_, try glxinfo | egrep "glx (vendor|version)" if you see different vendor or versions for the client server this is your problem.
[02:05] <iiiears> uname -r
[02:05] <thoreauputic> iiiears: not on ppc ;)
[02:06] <iiiears> Huh - ? what is the ppc command?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> iiiears: erm... apple... mac.... ppc
[02:06] <dabar> heh
[02:06] <dabar> you guys are not on the same page
[02:06] <iiiears> Lol -  Ya know ya just can't lurk here and not learn something.
[02:07] <arphetic> MMM
[02:07] <dabar> uname has other options
[02:07] <thoreauputic> dabar: indeed
[02:07] <thoreauputic> uname -a
[02:07] <thoreauputic> for a complete listing...
[02:07] <dabar> and man uname among others:)
[02:08] <MAPD> hi
[02:08] <dabar> I have 3 seconds of lag on some things, like pinging google.
[02:08] <MAPD> anyone knows a program that tells me
[02:08] <MAPD> wheres the ip?
[02:08] <MAPD> i mean if its german chinese
[02:08] <MAPD> whatever?
[02:08] <StrikeForce> wheres the ip?
[02:08] <dabar> like
[02:08] <StrikeForce> you mean traceroute ifoncifg
[02:08] <StrikeForce> ifconfig?
[02:08] <MAPD> i expressed wrong
[02:08] <bimberi> MAPD: http://www.countrycheck.com
[02:08] <MAPD> no
[02:08] <dabar> nah
[02:09] <dabar> like the website
[02:09] <dabar> ya, that
[02:09] <arphetic> ANyone have an idea why my screan is really shocky and why i cant update that shit drivers /
[02:09] <arphetic> nvrmind
[02:09] <MAPD> bimberi,  but is a program?
[02:09] <thoreauputic> MAPD:  host <IP number>
[02:09] <bimberi> MAPD: no, a service
[02:09] <MAPD> im downloading something now from apt-get
[02:09] <MAPD> i wanted to know if its from a portuguese mirror
[02:09] <MAPD> i replaced the sources list
[02:10] <dabar> yay, both my live and install hoary downloaded with no md5sum errors.
[02:10] <MAPD> bimberi,
[02:10] <MAPD> thats not what i need
[02:10] <MAPD> :\
[02:10] <thoreauputic> MAPD: the host command will give you the full domain and country
[02:10] <dabar> awww..my wrist is screwed.
[02:11] <bimberi> MAPD: yes, now realised, sorry
[02:11] <thoreauputic> MAPD: also whois
[02:11] <MAPD> thoreauputic, ook
[02:11] <MAPD> but that not what i need
[02:11] <MAPD> i need to know
[02:11] <MAPD> at relay time
[02:11] <MAPD> where does it come from
[02:11] <dabar> MAPD: put pt in front of the sources.list, are you in portugal?
[02:12] <MAPD> yes
[02:12] <davro> all your wrists are belong to rsi
[02:12] <MAPD> other thing
[02:12] <dabar> well, whats your sources.list look like?
[02:12] <dabar> davro: bah. tru.
[02:12] <MAPD> dabar,
[02:12] <iiiears> lol
[02:12] <MAPD> want me to paste or send you the file
[02:12] <MAPD> on pastebin?
[02:12] <thoreauputic> MAPD: you'll see the IP - just run whois <IP number>
[02:12] <Snorks> What's the difference between ubuntu 5.04 for intel x86 ordered from ubuntu-linux.org for free a while ago, or the 5.04 intel x86 iso if downloaded from web? is there any difference at all?
[02:12] <dabar> !paste
[02:12] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:13] <MAPD> why cant i copy a file from my desktop to apt dir
[02:13] <MAPD> my user is sysadmin thingy
[02:13] <Snorks> check rights
[02:13] <Snorks> oh
[02:13] <dabar> there is no such url, Snorks, it is either with no dash, or ubuntu.com
[02:13] <MAPD> im using the drag and drop
[02:13] <dabar> no difference
[02:13] <Snorks> if the desktop belongs to /home/randomuser, then i think you might need to give root permissions
[02:13] <iiiears> Snorks - Hoary has been frozen except for security updates - they are both very much the same.
[02:13] <dabar> it dont work that way.
[02:13] <Snorks> not all roots are uber-roots
[02:14] <Snorks> iiiears: and security updates i can get from the web after install?
[02:14] <iiiears> Yes
[02:14] <MAPD> help pls :P
[02:14] <Snorks> ok
[02:14] <dabar> nautilus, which is what is used for dragging and dropping, does not has superuser priivilieges.
[02:14] <Snorks> thank you
[02:14] <arphetic> err...
[02:14] <arphetic> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1362
[02:14] <arphetic> anyone can help me with that?
[02:14] <MAPD> dabar,  so doesnt work?
[02:14] <dabar> MAPD: pasted sources.list?
[02:14] <MAPD> what can i do?
[02:14] <MAPD> nope
[02:14] <thoreauputic> MAPD: you need to be clearer in your questions
[02:14] <thoreauputic> !questions
[02:14] <ubotu> it has been said that questions is what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading
[02:15] <dabar> it could possibly, i dont wanna tell you how, cause its not safe to run nautilus as root, cause you might delete a lot.
[02:15] <MAPD> im trying to do drag and drop from my desktop to apt dir it says i dont have access
[02:15] <iiiears> thoreauputic is teasing the bot. - lol
[02:15] <gmoore> if anyone is familiar with apache/php/ruby on ubuntu: i currently have apache installed. i would like to install php and ruby as well. can i just install packages or something as well (like you would on windows), or should i remove apache and compile it with said additions?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> MAPD: because you aren't running nautilus with super user privileges
[02:16] <gmoore> !nautilus
[02:16] <ubotu> No idea, gmoore
[02:16] <MAPD> thats right thoreauputic
[02:16] <MAPD> im not running on root
[02:16] <dabar> install the packages.
[02:16] <gmoore> what is nautilus? i hear it mentioned a lot. :3
[02:16] <MAPD> i disabled the gdm connection
[02:16] <MAPD> as root
[02:16] <dabar> your file mangler
[02:16] <thoreauputic> MAPD: everything except /tmp outside your home dir requires elevated privileges
[02:16] <dabar> manager
[02:16] <chris__> nautilus is the gnome filemanager
[02:16] <bimberi> gmoore: the gnome file manager
[02:16] <MAPD> i cant install packages :P
[02:16] <dabar> is nautilus
[02:16] <gmoore> oh, wow. what a dumb question :{}
[02:16] <MAPD> im going to copy by hand
[02:16] <MAPD> lol
[02:16] <michele> gmoore, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:16] <dabar> not really.
[02:17] <dabar> I did not know it at some point.
[02:17] <dabar> aj bok, guys, means bye.
[02:17] <bimberi> gmoore: not at all
[02:17] <MAPD> !pastebin
[02:17] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:17] <thespiritoftal> !help
[02:17] <iiiears> there are a bunch of apps out there with names that obscure their function.
[02:17] <davro> !ruby
[02:17] <ubotu> davro: What?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> MAPD: you install packages with synaptic (or apt or aptitude)
[02:18] <arphetic> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1362 <- Anyone goy a suggestion?
[02:18] <MAPD> i cant
[02:18] <MAPD> lol
[02:18] <iiiears> what is "bicyclerepair" or "bonobo" - heh
[02:18] <MAPD> im trying to make it portuguese mirrors
[02:18] <MAPD> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1363
[02:18] <MAPD> wheres dabar?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> MAPD:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <thoreauputic> MAPD: add pt in front of "archive" --->  pt.archive
[02:19] <MAPD> its already there
[02:19] <thoreauputic> MAPD: so what's your problem?
[02:19] <MAPD> if i add there
[02:19] <MAPD> it will find my
[02:20] <MAPD> portuguese mirror?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> MAPD: if there is one, yes
[02:20] <thoreauputic> MAPD: if not it will default to something sane
[02:21] <deufo> did j2re get removed from the apt thing?
[02:21] <MAPD> hum
[02:21] <MAPD> ok thanks
[02:21] <deufo> i can't find j2re now
[02:21] <thoreauputic> deufo: it's in hoary-extras
[02:21] <iiiears> deufo - i believe it is in "extras"
[02:21] <MAPD> when i installed ubuntu it said it didnt have full support for my language in the cdrom and it said to go to the net download can i do it now?
[02:21] <deufo> ah
[02:21] <MAPD> i cancelled before
[02:21] <iiiears> << - nap
[02:22] <iiiears> Z..zz.z
[02:22] <iiiears> G'nite :)
[02:22] <thoreauputic> deufo: and it's sun-j2re1.5
[02:22] <deufo> ty
[02:23] <arphetic> Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[02:23] <arphetic>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[02:23] <arphetic>        kernel
[02:23] <arphetic> ?
[02:23] <thoreauputic> arphetic: what are you trying to compile?
[02:24] <arphetic> Erm
[02:24] <chrissturm> requiring kernel sources is more or less a bug
[02:24] <arphetic> im trying to install vidcart drivers
[02:24] <arphetic> ;)
[02:24] <arphetic> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1362
[02:24] <thoreauputic> vidcart?
[02:24] <arphetic> yes the drivers
[02:25] <arphetic> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html
[02:25] <thoreauputic> arphetic: you are trying to install nvidia drivers?
[02:25] <arphetic> yes
[02:25] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[02:25] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[02:25] <thoreauputic> arphetic: read that
[02:25] <arphetic> both?
[02:25] <owtput> hi guys, anyone familiar with apt-pinning via synaptic?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> the first one
[02:26] <kemik> owtput:  apt-pinning?
[02:26] <owtput> kemik: yep
[02:26] <Snorks|Opera> usb devices like printer and scanner, should they be plugged in during install or should i plug them in after everything is installed?
[02:26] <arphetic> Ok thank you
[02:26] <thoreauputic> arphetic: you can't really "optimise" nvidia until you have the drivers, can you? *g*
[02:27] <BollocksMacenzie> Does anyone know ehich hotplug files execute and in which order when inserting a PCMCIA wi-fi card?
[02:27] <kemik> owtput:  between breezy and hoary then ?
[02:27] <hubsi> kann mir mal jemand irgendwie jemand seine schnste seite zeigen.. also.... die er am schnsten/besten (grafisch) findet ?
[02:28] <owtput> kemik: yep
[02:28] <Snorks|Opera> usb devices like printer and scanner, should they be plugged in during install or should i plug them in after everything is installed? if you know this, please answer :) I am about to install Ubuntu right now
[02:28] <owtput> kemik: dun worry, this is only a testbed. my main box is still hoar'ing away
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Snorks|Opera: plug them in
[02:28] <Snorks|Opera> thoreauputic: ok thank you
[02:29] <owtput> kemik: I'd like to start bug-submitting any quirks in breezy
[02:29] <thoreauputic> before install
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Snorks|Opera: the installer will try to identify them for you
[02:29] <kemik> owtput:  ah.. well.. im not familiar with howto do it in synaptic.. i always use the commandline :)
[02:29] <BollocksMacenzie> Are the hotplug scripts loaded into memory and not loaded again?
[02:30] <BollocksMacenzie> At boot?>
[02:30] <owtput> kemik: did you upgrade to breezy by any chance?
[02:30] <kemik> owtput:  mmh, but it severly broke X for me
[02:30] <kemik> so i had to go back to hoary
[02:31] <owtput> kemik: what were the error messages?
[02:31] <kemik> dun think i'll try again until it's stable ;)
[02:31] <thoreauputic> BollocksMacenzie: I'm guessing no-one currently here knows - maybe wait a while and ask again (say 15 or 20 minutes?)
[02:31] <MAPD> i changed sources.list
[02:31] <arphetic> !nvidia
[02:31] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[02:31] <MAPD> will it change on
[02:31] <MAPD> synaptics too?
[02:31] <kemik> owtput:  lots about fonts, and then some other errors.. this was a few weeks ago
[02:31] <thoreauputic> MAPD: yes
[02:31] <maisy322> can anyone tell me whats is the best wifi manager for gnome / ubuntu?
[02:31] <owtput> kemik: xorg.conf had a few diff naming schemes
[02:31] <owtput> kemik: eg. keyboard -> kbd
[02:31] <thoreauputic> MAPD: don't forget to reload/ update
[02:32] <thoreauputic> MAPD: synaptic is just a front end for apt
[02:32] <MAPD> ah ok thanks
[02:32] <MAPD> i did update
[02:32] <MAPD> did sudo apt-get update?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> yup
[02:32] <thoreauputic> MAPD: that's right
[02:32] <kemik> owtput:  wel, im staying clear until october ;) cause this is my mainbox.. and i dont wanna test stuff on it ;)
[02:33] <MAPD> what
[02:33] <MAPD> should i install by default
[02:33] <MAPD> ?
[02:34] <maisy322> does ubuntu come with a default wifi detection, connection tool?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> MAPD: what do you mean? Install whatever you wish...
[02:34] <arphetic> Strange
[02:35] <thoreauputic> arphetic: what's strange ?
[02:36] <MAPD> how to install
[02:36] <MAPD> wine and fully working?
[02:36] <Poromies> anyone here, who would know a thing or two about dvd burning support, k3b and such?
[02:36] <Poromies> i have a problem with writing speeds
[02:36] <thoreauputic> *sigh*  sudo apt-get install wine  or choose it with synaptic
[02:36] <Poromies> i have dma enabled on the drive, k3b shows it to support 8x dvd burning
[02:37] <thoreauputic> !info wine
[02:37] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[02:37] <thoreauputic> MAPD: wine is in universe
[02:37] <Poromies> yet, when ever i start to burn something, it takes ages to complete the full disk 4.3gb and speed is never above 0.8x according to k3b
[02:37] <arphetic> thoreauputic: Enemy Territory stops at Sound init
[02:37] <sambagirl> how do you do a quick search to locate everyone with a specific string in their nick? i forget how now. /whois james*
[02:37] <sambagirl> is that how?
[02:37] <MAPD> thoreauputic,
[02:37] <MAPD> explain
[02:37] <MAPD> lol
[02:38] <thoreauputic> arphetic: killall esd, then try it again
[02:38] <chrissturm> when i am burning a data cd with nautilus it doenst seem to use buffer underrun protection. with dvds it works. how can i fix that?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> MAPD: how long have you been using Ubuntu ?
[02:38] <sambagirl> what is the music channel for ubunto called? i was there but cannot remember the name now
[02:39] <MAPD> first time :p
[02:39] <arphetic> ?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> MAPD: read the "ubotu" link below
[02:39] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[02:39] <ubotu> synaptic is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:39] <sambagirl> wha is colony 3?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> MAPD: and this
[02:39] <muffin_> hi, i've installed netatalk (AppleTalk Protocol). any idea how to use it???
[02:39] <thoreauputic> !repos
[02:39] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:39] <MAPD> found wine
[02:40] <sambagirl> what is colony 3?
[02:40] <muffin_> !netatalk
[02:40] <ubotu> muffin_: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:40] <arphetic> XMMS can play winamp files (.PLS) right?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: the recent testing release of the new distro (Breezy)
[02:41] <MAPD> i chose
[02:41] <arphetic> http://www.slamfm.nl/slamfmlivestream.php which one should i have ;)
[02:41] <MAPD> mark all updates
[02:41] <MAPD> is this correct?
[02:41] <sambagirl> is there a ubuntu guru here?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> MAPD: do you want to update your existing apps or install wine only?
[02:42] <sambagirl> is there an amiga guru?
[02:42] <sambagirl> what are you talking about WINE for?
[02:42] <spola> noooooooo, there are no guru's on IRC. ever
[02:42] <MAPD> update
[02:42] <sambagirl> winos.
[02:42] <MAPD> and install wine
[02:42] <sambagirl> is all your doing is drinking?
[02:42] <sambagirl> wine wine wine
[02:42] <thoreauputic> MAPD: so select wine
[02:42] <sambagirl> is good for the heart
[02:42] <sambagirl> the more you drink
[02:42] <sambagirl> the more you fart
[02:42] <arphetic> sambagirl: they are busy
[02:42] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: do you have something ubuntu related to say?
[02:42] <sambagirl> yes
[02:43] <titaniululz> in synaptic what does the ubuntu symbol in the second column mean?
[02:43] <MAPD> all wine packages?
[02:43] <sambagirl> ive been asking 3 times now
[02:43] <sambagirl> but apparantantly there is no guru here to help me.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> titaniululz: stuff that's supported - in "main" in other words
[02:43] <spola> titaniululz, im guessing it's set to true for all ubuntu packages, and left empty for foreign debs
[02:43] <titaniululz> ah, thanks
[02:43] <muffin_> hi, i've installed netatalk (AppleTalk Protocol). any idea how to use it???
[02:44] <sambagirl> well geez do you have an apple on the lan?
[02:44] <sambagirl> if so it should be transparent.
[02:44] <MAPD> not bad
[02:44] <MAPD> downloading at 470kb/s
[02:44] <muffin_> samagirl: hm, windows doest support afp, does it
[02:44] <MAPD> :p
[02:44] <muffin_> samagirl: i do
[02:45] <srijith> on the topic of wine, has any one had issues with wine losing mouse/keyboard focus..? I know the solution, though not the actual cause
[02:45] <sambagirl> well i used another product for supporting afp thru windows me
[02:45] <sambagirl> a product put out by island.
[02:45] <arphetic> lets try now
[02:45] <muffin_> sambagirl, cewl, ive never seen afp on a win machine ^^
[02:46] <Ledo> please can someone help me install ubuntu
[02:46] <sambagirl> i have it on my laptop it loads at boot time.
[02:46] <sambagirl> install it?
[02:46] <sambagirl> just put the cdrom in the cdrom and boot from cdrom
[02:46] <muffin_> but any idea how to use a new proctocol??? afp://ip does not work... :(
[02:46] <Ledo> If only it was that simple, i dont have a cd-rw,
[02:46] <Ashen> yo.
[02:46] <sambagirl> umm
[02:46] <oxez> If I download a .deb package from somewhere where do I put it in order to be able to install it?
[02:47] <Ledo> Can i install ubuntu from the iso image on my hdd like mandrake or red-hat
[02:47] <sambagirl> sorry muffin. i wish i could help you truely i do. but i don't have any example here working to try
[02:47] <spola> they will send you a cd for free (if only you ask)
[02:47] <Ashen> anyone know anything about getting directpad pro parrallel input working in ubuntu?
[02:47] <Ledo> Ive searched everywhere on wiki, but nothing worked
[02:47] <muffin_> Ledo, you can order a pressed cd for f
[02:47] <rob^^^> anyone here running hoary or breezy on VirtualPC?
[02:47] <rob^^^> X is psychedelic
[02:47] <Ledo> I ordered a cd 2 months ago
[02:47] <Karhuton> Is the Grub on Hoary patched for XFS? The one on the installation DVD didn't work..
[02:47] <Ledo> is there no way to install from iso image on hdd
[02:47] <sambagirl> i have a bunch of cd's here they sent me 30 for AMD 64, PPC, X86 and AMIGA
[02:47] <muffin_> rob^^^, you can install ubuntu pcc on mac, cant you?
[02:47] <deadhorse> well,what's visualpc?
[02:47] <shawarma> Karhuton: I use it with XFS just fine.
[02:48] <deadhorse> hi,all.
[02:48] <muffin_> deadhorse, x86 emu for osx
[02:48] <Karhuton> shawarma, did you install Grub on installation?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Ledo: there probably is, but evidently so far no one here knows how
[02:48] <sambagirl> i dont think so LEdo cause you hvae to install to the drive your installing from, think about it. there should be no o.s present, no?
[02:48] <deadhorse> oh
[02:48] <bimberi> oxez: you can put it anywhere and use the command "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb" to install
[02:48] <shawarma> Karhuton: The trick to actually installing it is to let the installation install lilo and later "upgrading" to grub yourself.
[02:48] <Ledo> Ive done it with red-hat
[02:48] <oxez> bimberi: ok thx
[02:48] <bimberi> oxez: that said, it's best to get packages via apt
[02:48] <shawarma> Karhuton: And when you do that, make sure you have a root console open!
[02:49] <Ledo> I have a bootable ubuntu cd, but it has bad sectors, so i can start the install but evidently it freezes
[02:49] <spola> well redhat and ubuntu are two diffrent things now aren't they?
[02:49] <BollocksMacenzie> ASking again... Does anyone know how the hotplug subsystem works?
[02:49] <Karhuton> shawarma, explain in query, if you will
[02:49] <shawarma> Karhuton: Because if you (like me) boot from your root partition (ie. don't have a /boot partition), grub-install is going to freeze / and then you have to unfreeze it from the root console.
[02:49] <sambagirl> This is not Redhat LEdo. And As the resident Amiga Guru, I hereby declare that there is no way to do it for the serfs,
[02:49] <muffin_> Ledo, why dont you just order you free copy of ubuntu with a failsafe install and boot cd????
[02:49] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: it's possible to install linux from an image on another partition
[02:49] <kemik> BollocksMacenzie:  nope, but try google. i've read some great recource on that stuff with USB and the hotplugsystem
[02:50] <Ledo> i just said i HAVE ordered one and its been two months and still nothing
[02:50] <gmoore> you know what? honestly, ubuntu is easier to use than windows. some stuff in the terminal is a bit tricky i guess, but really, synaptic is so easy to use to get anything you need that it beats the hell out of windows
[02:50] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: please, if you don't know, don't joke
[02:50] <sambagirl> Sure that is possible Theraputic
[02:50] <gmoore> if only i didn't play so many videogames and i could put ubuntu on my main computer ;(
[02:50] <sambagirl> Theraputic will you stop being so bitchy.
[02:50] <kemik> *ooh* catfight!
[02:50] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: will you try to be on topic?
[02:50] <sambagirl> I'm busy here helping people.
[02:50] <Ledo> OMFG :/
[02:51] <thoreauputic> *cough*
[02:51] <muffin_> any idea how to use apple talk proctocol??? afp://ip does not work... :( i insalled tha package "netatalk" from hoary multiverse
[02:51] <sambagirl> Will you try minging your own house?
[02:51] <sambagirl> As i first asked in here WHAT IS COLONY and all you can say is stay on topic. Look your not my mama or my daddy so leave me alone.
[02:51] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: OK - well the ops are only a /msg away - suit yourself
[02:52] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: I answered your colony question
[02:52] <owtput> colony, as in breezy colony?
[02:52] <owtput> or colony of aliens from Starship Troopers
[02:52] <sambagirl> you dont have to answer anything for me.
[02:52] <Ledo> So there is No way to install from iso image on fat32 partition
[02:52] <rob^^^> muffin_ Ubuntu PPC does work but I'm in OS X all day anyway
[02:52] <kemik> someone's being childish
[02:52] <rob^^^> so I actually prefer to virtualize it as speed is not improtant to me
[02:52] <spola> hey ledo, check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro?highlight=%28install%29
[02:53] <rob^^^> I'm already running XP under VirtualPC and have a dual proc with 2 gigs of ram so its not completely agnoziing
[02:53] <fabbione> calm down
[02:53] <owtput> c'mon humans
[02:53] <MAPD> whats multiverse?
[02:53] <BollocksMacenzie> kermik: Trying to rewrite it to automatically configure the firewall and stuff. Like I did with my boot files.
[02:53] <volatile_> I keep having issues with compiling mplayer with the GUI
[02:53] <fabbione> sambagirl: colony as in Colony of (breezy) Badgers
[02:53] <volatile_> I specify the --enable-gui options
[02:53] <volatile_> option
[02:54] <volatile_> but it keeps giving me this gtk error
[02:54] <volatile_> even though I installed gtk using synaptic
[02:54] <owtput> fabbione: as in "array" of hedgehogs?
[02:54] <fabbione> owtput: yes
[02:54] <kemik> BollocksMacenzie:  trying to get the hotplugsystem to configure the firewall???
[02:54] <owtput> heh, cool
[02:55] <roham_> Can somebody help me with startup problem...
[02:55] <Ashen> anyone know anything about getting directpad pro parrallel input working in ubuntu? (playstation controller-- not usb)
[02:55] <Ledo> how do i do a network install then,
[02:55] <bimberi> fabbione: good to see the irc logging working again :)
[02:55] <MAPD> whats multiverse? pls?
[02:55] <volatile_> is it source?
[02:55] <kemik> roham_:  just ask the question
[02:55] <volatile_> the ps2 controller?
[02:55] <muffin_> !multiverse
[02:55] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[02:55] <Ledo> how do i choose network install from the ubuntu setup
[02:55] <muffin_> !repositories
[02:55] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:55] <fabbione> bimberi: i had problems with my isp..
[02:56] <fabbione> they were only slower than usual
[02:56] <bimberi> fabbione: ah
[02:56] <Ashen> volatile_: either... they use the same drivers
[02:56] <muffin_> MAPD, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:56] <MAPD> by the way i want to install
[02:56] <MAPD> blackbox
[02:56] <volatile_> Ashen, or what?
[02:56] <maisy322> so, noone knows of any wifi detector, connection utility for gnome / ubuntu, do u know anywhere else i might ask?
[02:56] <MAPD> can i keep gnome right? and make it share stuff with the blackblox?
[02:56] <bimberi> fabbione: looks like it only took them a week to fix :)
[02:56] <MAPD> maisy322,  sourceforge.net
[02:56] <MAPD> try one there
[02:56] <Ashen> volatile_: ps2, ps1, any playstation device
[02:57] <Ashen> volatile_: through the printer port
[02:57] <BollocksMacenzie> kemik: I've alfready rewritten my boot to auto-detect my wi-fi card and configure the firewall, network monitor and ifconfig.
[02:57] <volatile_> what's your problem?
[02:57] <Ashen> volatile_: it doesn't work... :p
[02:57] <fabbione> bimberi: yes.. but i don't care too much.. logs are only an extra low priority facility :)
[02:57] <arphetic> lets see
[02:57] <volatile_> lol, u installed it?
[02:57] <Ashen> volatile_: not sure if the kernel is compiled with support
[02:57] <volatile_> you connected the ps2 controller yes?
[02:57] <roham_> kemik: if I have my internet cable plugged in, I cant login... I type username and password and then it just waint on a blanc screen, but if I unplug the cable I can login... I think my interface file is corrupt in someway I dont know...
[02:57] <Ashen> volatile_: but my efforts to get a kernel compiled and working on ubuntu have been... not good... at best...
[02:58] <maisy322> thanks for that, I'll go check sourceforge, pheww i was starting to feel invisible there
[02:58] <bimberi> fabbione: :)
[03:00] <MAPD> where can i get amsn?
[03:00] <martin_> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/multimedia:nforce_treiber_installieren?s=nforce wie ist das in schritt 2 gemeint ?
[03:00] <kemik> roham_:  look in /etc/network/interfaces and paste that on pastebin
[03:00] <thoreauputic> !info amsn
[03:00] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[03:00] <arphetic> amsn sux
[03:00] <arphetic> use Mercury
[03:01] <topyli> or gaim
[03:01] <arphetic> gaim sux too
[03:01] <arphetic> :] 
[03:01] <thoreauputic> MAPD: use the search function in synaptic to find stuff :)
[03:01] <arphetic> Mercury ownt
[03:01] <topyli> arphetic: you're hard to please aren't you :)
[03:01] <arphetic> www.mercury.to
[03:01] <arphetic> topyli: use it for like... 2 months... im sure u will be addicted
[03:01] <kemik> BollocksMacenzie:  so what isit that you want todo now? im lost =)
[03:02] <arphetic> im still busy on installing windows ffs
[03:02] <arphetic> now creating Primary DOS partition
[03:02] <topyli> arphetic: i'm not really in need of an msn client right now
[03:02] <volatile_> man, I'm getting this issue where it says it can't find my gtk devel files, and THEY'RE INSTALLED!
[03:02] <BollocksMacenzie> kemik: Modify the hotplug files so that the wifi card is autodetected when the machine is already running!
[03:02] <MAPD> i installed wine
[03:02] <MAPD> how do i install stuff?
[03:03] <MAPD> a nice dvd player and dvd recorder
[03:03] <MAPD> would be cool :p
[03:03] <topyli> volatile_: perhaps wrong versions, or maybe you don't have some obscure gtk-foobar2-0-dev
[03:03] <arphetic> rofl
[03:03] <arphetic> Mercury OWNZ OWNZ OWNZ
[03:03] <arphetic> mmm
[03:04] <arphetic> weird echo
[03:04] <kemik> BollocksMacenzie:  ahh of course.. well i messed with the hotplug system to identify my camera, i succeeded, but all was lost when i rebooted..
[03:05] <volatile_> huh
[03:05] <volatile_> topyli, I installed the GTK off the site, ubuntu specified
[03:05] <thoreauputic> volatile_: the ones with the -dev suffix?
[03:05] <volatile_> both
[03:05] <volatile_> the regular and the dev I believe
[03:05] <topyli> volatile_: why won't the ubuntu packages do?
[03:06] <volatile_> u mean mplayer ubuntu packages?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> volatile_: mplayer is in the multiverse repo
[03:06] <topyli> volatile_: no, gtk
[03:06] <volatile_> I konw
[03:07] <volatile_> I installed it
[03:07] <volatile_> but it doesn't work
[03:07] <volatile_> the other ones work
[03:07] <volatile_> like xine
[03:07] <volatile_> but mplayer doesn't work for me
[03:07] <hansi_xp> what's a good mp3 player with equalizer for linux (like winamp)
[03:07] <volatile_> could it be that I installed the codec package?
[03:07] <rob^> !bmp
[03:07] <thoreauputic> volatile_: hmm - you have w32codecs ?
[03:07] <ubotu> bmp is, like, a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[03:07] <volatile_> I installed the "essential" package, and I have w32codecs
[03:07] <volatile_> r they conflicting?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> volatile_: did you install from hoary-extras (w32codecs)
[03:08] <hansi_xp> i like winamp
[03:08] <topyli> volatile_: i'm taking about this: "man, I'm getting this issue where it says it can't find my gtk devel files, and THEY'RE INSTALLED!". different thing altogether :)
[03:08] <volatile_> yes
[03:08] <volatile_> I installed the GTK files off synaptic
[03:08] <volatile_> the most recent versions
[03:08] <volatile_> the GTK and the GTK dev I believe
[03:09] <thoreauputic> volatile_: so where do the gtk packages fit in this picture? What are you using them for?
[03:09] <icewt> hansi_xp, xmms ?
[03:09] <hansi_xp> i tried xmms and it crashed on me
[03:09] <topyli> volatile: your autoconf seems to disagree. what are you trying to do anyway
[03:09] <icewt> hansi_xp, what does it say?
[03:09] <hansi_xp> i tried real player 10 too and it also crashed
[03:09] <hansi_xp> doesn't say anything, it just doesn't play
[03:09] <hansi_xp> freezes
[03:10] <icewt> hansi_xp, what did you try to play?
[03:10] <roham_> !pastebin
[03:10] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:10] <hansi_xp> an mp3
[03:10] <topyli> hansi_xp: realplayer can't handle your sound daemon, panics and freezes
[03:10] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: did you set the output plugin in xmms to "esound" ?
[03:10] <hansi_xp> not sure
[03:10] <topyli> hansi_xp: if you "killall esd", i'm sure realplayer will work
[03:10] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: try that first (for xmms)
[03:10] <volatile_> thoreauputic, I was trying to compile mplayer with the --enable-gui tag
[03:10] <icewt> ah, esd.. it'd be better just to disable it ;)
[03:10] <hansi_xp> ok thanks dude
[03:10] <MAPD> sudo apt-get install wine winetools $ winetools
[03:11] <MAPD> impossible to fine winetools
[03:11] <roham_> kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1364
[03:11] <topyli> volatile_: so, are you sure you have the gtk1 devel packages, not gtk2?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> volatile_: mplayer from multiverse should work fine with the ubuntu w32codecs package from hoary-extras repo
[03:11] <MAPD> it says that wine is already installed and its recent
[03:11] <thoreauputic> volatile_: works here anyway
[03:11] <volatile_> I'll check that out, what's the command to delete a dir?
[03:12] <volatile_> rmdir?
[03:12] <volatile_> rd?
[03:12] <roham_> Witch Theme engine is the best one?
[03:12] <topyli> volatile_: mplayer is too weird anyway, and the gui especially is plainly insulting
[03:12] <kemik> roham_:  looks ok
[03:12] <thoreauputic> volatile_: that's for empty dirs
[03:12] <thoreauputic> volatile_: rm -r <dir>
[03:12] <volatile_> how I remove all files in a dir?
[03:12] <volatile_> del *.*?
[03:12] <roham_> kemik: ok but whats the error then?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> no
[03:12] <kemik> volatile_:  rm -rf *
[03:12] <thoreauputic> volatile_: see above
[03:12] <volatile_> -rf tag means what'?
[03:12] <kemik> roham_:  dunno
[03:13] <srijith> r=recursive f=force
[03:13] <gmoore> i am following the Apache/Mysql/Php wiki guide and i'm unsure about what this means. "Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using." <- does that mean change it to my username? right now it's "www-data".
[03:13] <michele> -rf = recursive forced
[03:13] <MAPD> help pls
[03:13] <guydebord> I keep learning more
[03:13] <MAPD> is winetools multiverse?
[03:13] <thoreauputic> volatile_: -f is force - be careful if you use that
[03:13] <volatile_> I want to delete the "codecs" directory
[03:13] <volatile_> tell me how plz
[03:13] <roham_> kemik: because I had problems before with the network and dhcp so I deleted the interface file and it got created by itself
[03:13] <kemik> roham_:  i thought it could be that your networkcard dont get an adress from the dhcpserver, but it should not lockup the entire computer
[03:13] <volatile_> it has files in it
[03:13] <volatile_> what command do I use?
[03:13] <Ledo> well this is just thuper gay, i spend hrs downloading ubuntu thinkin it would at least support installin from iso image and no, then when i ask for help people just get angry with each other :/
[03:14] <thoreauputic> volatile_: sudo rm -rf /path/to/directory  (but be careful)
[03:14] <guydebord> The GIMP help browser plug-in appears to be missing from your installation. Just recieved this message. Anyone know the link to help me install it?
[03:14] <volatile_> k
[03:14] <volatile_> did it
[03:14] <roham_> kemik: it dosnt lockup I can press ctrl-alt-backspace, and it restart the xwindows but its the samething... its stops, the splash screen dosnt come up, I need to reboot without the cable plugged
[03:14] <hopeng> how to use 5.1 speakers in ubuntu ?
[03:14] <gmoore> Ledo: boot from the cd
[03:14] <Ledo> :/
[03:14] <evanpro> So, I should download the Colony 3 CD, but I shouldn't use it?
[03:15] <Ledo> I just said my only cd has errors on it
[03:15] <evanpro> Is that the message I should get from the topic?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> volatile_: which dir were they in? you might need to re-create it
[03:15] <hansi_xp> hey xmms works :)
[03:15] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: :)
[03:15] <hansi_xp> :)
[03:15] <ubuntuguy> what is xmms?
[03:15] <hansi_xp> winamp on linux
[03:15] <hansi_xp> sought of
[03:15] <icewt> guydebord, try to install gimp-helpbrowser
[03:16] <volatile_> my mplayer opens
[03:16] <guydebord> The GIMP help browser plug-in is missing from my installation. Anyone know the link to help me install it?
[03:16] <volatile_> but doesnt' do shit
[03:16] <volatile_> when trying to play a simple DivX file
[03:16] <volatile_> WTF?
[03:16] <topyli> ubuntuguy: a music player that everybody used to use 5 years ago
[03:16] <volatile_> I have w32codecs installed
[03:16] <thoreauputic> volatile_: you dleted the codecs,right?
[03:16] <icewt> guydebord, sudo apt-get install gimp-helpbrowser
[03:16] <roham_> kemik: any ideas?
[03:16] <ubuntuguy> I'm downloading Colony 3 right now, is there anything I should know?
[03:16] <volatile_> I deleted the "essential" codecs from the mplayerhq site
[03:16] <kemik> roham_:  i've had that sortof problem on window95/98.. never on linux... not sure what can be causing that behaviour
[03:16] <michele> hansi_xp, beep media player should be better than xmms, and look the same
[03:17] <hansi_xp> beep media huh?
[03:17] <topyli> guydebord: there should be a package called gimp-help-browser or something. search synaptic for "gimp"
[03:17] <thoreauputic> volatile_: and installed w32codecs from hoary-extras ?
[03:17] <volatile_> what is literally the best player available? With no sync issues, and doesn't look like mplayer? Something PRETTY and POWERFUL?
[03:17] <rob^> michele, better
[03:17] <rob^> !bmp
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[03:17] <Myrtti> ok, I could use some help here again. I need to reformat my USB flash memory stick since it seems to be someway corrupted. It shows in my Ubuntu as only 187M's of size
[03:17] <volatile_> I got the w32codecs installed from synaptic
[03:17] <topyli> volatile_: i just use rhythmbox. muine is great too
[03:18] <hansi_xp> so does everybody download just with the package manager?
[03:18] <Myrtti> anyone?
[03:18] <kemik> Myrtti:  goto the usbdevice in a terminal and in the usb-direcotry type "ls -lha"
[03:18] <topyli> volatile_: sorry, you're talking about video. totem
[03:18] <roham_> kemik: weird... and its nothing in the systemlog
[03:18] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: as much as possible, yes
[03:18] <icewt> beep media player just eats more resources. if xmms works, i don't really see a reason to use bmp
[03:18] <kemik> Myrtti:  it can be that you've got a .Trash-user folder on the usb-device.. you'll have to Empty Trash
[03:18] <Myrtti> I've done that already
[03:18] <volatile_> huh?
[03:18] <Ledo> Ugh fuck this, what a waste of time :/
[03:18] <volatile_> video, totem?
[03:18] <volatile_> I use totem now
[03:18] <volatile_> but it has SYNC ISSUES
[03:18] <kemik> Myrtti:  go in a terminal and check with "ls -lha"
[03:18] <volatile_> the AUDIO gets away from the VIDEO
[03:18] <roham_> kemik: can I delete the interface file again and try... but I dont thing its that file who makes the problem
[03:19] <volatile_> because it's based on Xine
[03:19] <Myrtti> 12K
[03:19] <icewt> volatile_, use mplayer
[03:19] <kemik> Myrtti:  it didnt empty my usb-device correctly with "empty trash"
[03:19] <topyli> volatile_: works here
[03:19] <volatile_> GOD
[03:19] <snackalot> hay ledo if you install gstreamer totem will work
[03:19] <volatile_> I'm TRYING to use mplayer
[03:19] <volatile_> JESUS
[03:19] <volatile_> that's my point
[03:19] <volatile_> mplayer doesn't work
[03:19] <topyli> volatile_: if xine and mplayer are out, you still have vlc
[03:19] <topyli> calm down
[03:19] <icewt> volatile_, oh
[03:19] <thoreauputic> volatile_: chill, dude
[03:19] <volatile_> vlc?
[03:19] <kemik> roham_:  seems to be something else...
[03:19] <hansi_xp> are there any really good repositories out there?
[03:20] <volatile_> sry, it's just ANNOYING to have people telling you the same thing over and over
[03:20] <topyli> SHOUTING is pretty rude too
[03:20] <volatile_> I installed mplayer and the w32codecs
[03:20] <thoreauputic> hansi_xp: 16 000 apps not enough?
[03:20] <Myrtti> goar.
[03:20] <Myrtti> no help
[03:20] <kemik> volatile_:  did you apt-get mplayer, or compile from source?
[03:20] <roham_> kemik: what happens when I press ok on the login screen? what is the first thing that gets loaded??
[03:20] <hansi_xp> maybe not :)
[03:20] <Goshawk> does anybody know how to create an apt archive?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> volatile_: have you read the code of conduct?
[03:20] <volatile_> I used the GUI thing
[03:20] <volatile_> quiet plz
[03:21] <kemik> Myrtti:  there was no ".Trash-user" on the usbdisk ?
[03:21] <Myrtti> no
[03:21] <kemik> volatile_:  mplayer didt work for me either using APT..  remove it and compile from source
[03:21] <volatile_> ok
[03:21] <volatile_> I tried that
[03:21] <volatile_> kemik
[03:22] <volatile_> but it said I needed GTK files?
[03:22] <volatile_> Dev Files?
[03:22] <Detox> question on partitons........ if I create a fat32 partition for Win 2000,, do i need to create a swap-partition or can I just use the remainder for linux partition?
[03:22] <azriel0184> ok, i just installed ubuntu, and in the installer i setup two sata drives. well, now when i boot it up it wont boot because it cant find them.
[03:22] <Detox> this is on a fresh HD
[03:22] <kemik> volatile_:  mmh, you'll need a few extra things... "build-essential" etc
[03:22] <thoreauputic> Detox: you need swap - but the installer will guide you through that
[03:22] <Detox> ok thanks
[03:23] <volatile_> Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[03:23] <volatile_> my error
[03:23] <volatile_> when using ./configure --enable-gui
[03:23] <hansi_xp> why do the music player such as xmms or beep crash on default configuration?
[03:23] <kemik> volatile_:  http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt <-- follow that guide, it will let you compile alright.. BUT get the latest files from mplayerhq.hu, dont just wget the old stuff from the guide
[03:23] <mr_daemon> Yo
[03:23] <Myrtti> what fun. I love this. dammit
[03:23] <Detox> would 2 -5 gig be ok for the swap-partition?
[03:23] <Myrtti> anyways, I have to go
[03:23] <Myrtti> I'll battle with this later
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Detox: too much
[03:24] <kemik> Detox:  less than 1gb is required
[03:24] <kemik> even less than that
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Detox: 500mb should be ample
[03:24] <Detox> ok
[03:24] <Detox> ok better
[03:24] <mr_daemon> I have an extremely stupid question -- you see, I am not yet fluent with the debian-ish way of doing things and I was wondering -- How the heck does one manages RCs?
[03:24] <LokeDK> what does dcopserver do?
[03:24] <mr_daemon> In other words, runlevels.
[03:25] <azriel0184> any ideas on how to get my ubuntu to recognise my sata drives on boot? my /usr is on one of them, so no way i can boot unless that is mounted
[03:25] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: do you mean startup scripts?
[03:25] <mr_daemon> Because you know, rcconf kinda sucks.
[03:25] <roham_> kemik: what happens when I press ok on the login screen? what is the first thing that gets loaded??
[03:25] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Yeah, runlevels.
[03:25] <topyli> mr_daemon: basically, we don't use them
[03:25] <volatile_> ok, so use this guide, but don't use the apt-get install manpages? ETC??
[03:25] <kemik> roham_:  the gdm login? you get a splashscreen, then the background and all loads
[03:25] <volatile_> don't install the files it tells me too?
[03:25] <topyli> mr_daemon: debian usually runs on runlevel 2
[03:25] <Karhuton> Grub quesiton: is hdc hd(1,0) if hdb doesn't exist?
[03:25] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: debian distros only use levels 1 and 2 by default - what do you want to do?
[03:25] <hansi_xp> how do i choose a xmms as the default player?
[03:26] <kemik> volatile_:  no use apt-get , but get the latest MPLAYER sources
[03:26] <muffin_> what package do i need to install to get DivX run in totem???
[03:26] <kemik> volatile_:  so dont use his WGET urls
[03:26] <volatile_> ok
[03:26] <volatile_> don't use the wget
[03:26] <kemik> muffin_:  i'd recommend VLC instead
[03:26] <yongzhi> does anyone know why my VLC player does not have sound when it plays?
[03:26] <volatile_> just use apt-get
[03:26] <Karhuton> muffin_, totem-xine <-- that
[03:26] <volatile_> sound drivers?
[03:26] <muffin_> thx
[03:26] <topyli> muffin_: win32codecs and totem-xine
[03:26] <kemik> !restricted
[03:26] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:26] <mr_daemon> Well this is new to me. Suppose I want samba to run atomagically a startup -- which I think will be done automagically indeed -- then change my mind and decide I do want it installed and not running..?
[03:26] <volatile_> my mplayer did the same thing
[03:27] <Karhuton> muffin_, you don't need w32codecs, unless you want to view WMV and RealMedia files
[03:27] <yongzhi> erm .. but i'm able to listen to music in other player
[03:27] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: sudo invoke-rc.d samba stop|start|restart
[03:27] <jmyers> does anyone here know about getting integrated wireless to work on a laptop?
[03:27] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Well, yes, I could also directly call the script in init.d... but I don't want it to start automatically. (Lets pretend)
[03:28] <volatile_> where does apt-get save the files it downloads?
[03:28] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: You can pick sshd as an example as well...
[03:28] <roham_> kemik: so its the splash screen that is loaded first? that must be the error right?
[03:28] <muffin_> Karhuton, but i have to uninstall gstreamer to get xine....
[03:28] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: man update-rc.d
[03:28] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: it's pretty easy
[03:28] <Karhuton> muffin_, you only uninstall 'totem-gstreamer'. Gstreamer should be intact for other Gnome apps
[03:28] <Snorks|Opera> ive just installed ubuntu, and there is no root account
[03:28] <Snorks|Opera> or, there is, but i can't get into it
[03:28] <hansi_xp> i still like winamp better :)
[03:28] <kemik> roham_:  well, dont see what it has todo with your ethernetcable being plugged in or not :|
[03:28] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: I just discovered that right before you said it. I like it so far, however is there a way to "list" the current state of services?
[03:28] <volatile_> Snorks|Opera, there is no root because they want you to use "sudo" instead of -su
[03:29] <hansi_xp> nobody likes winamp huh?
[03:29] <Snorks|Opera> volatile_: ok, but i need to fix /etc/hosts
[03:29] <volatile_> I like winamp
[03:29] <hansi_xp> cool
[03:29] <michele> winamp is oh so '90s
[03:29] <hansi_xp> can i get winamp on linux :)
[03:29] <compdude> "kernel panic: not syncing. No init found" (i think it's because i deleted .udevdb) please help!
[03:29] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: you mean see if they are running?  pgrep samba or ps aux | grep samba
[03:29] <volatile_> Snorks|Opera, if you really need to define a root acct, search google, your answer will be there
[03:29] <kemik> volatile_:  apt-get usually installs them right away, but they can be found in /var/cache/APT or something like that
[03:30] <roham_> kemik: true :P but what is loaded that have to do with the network?
[03:30] <jmyers> snorks: you can open a root terminal even if you don't have a root account
[03:30] <volatile_> ok, let me check
[03:30] <kemik> roham_: dont know :)
[03:30] <azriel0184> ok, i just installed ubuntu, and in the installer i setup two sata drives. well, now when i boot it up it wont boot because it cant find them.
[03:30] <azriel0184> any ideas on how to get my ubuntu to recognise my sata drives on boot? my /usr is on one of them, so no way i can boot unless that is mounted
[03:30] <volatile_> ...
[03:31] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: No, not really, that I know. I could also just do a status on the rc script, or invoke pidof. But what I want to know is how to know if an init script is set to run automatically at startup. If I have to pick a comparison, It would be what is the equivalent of chkconfig list in red hat and rc-update show in gentoo?
[03:31] <volatile_> why you put your /usr on your Sata that doesnt' boot?
[03:31] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Where it list all "services" on the machine and their state, set to enabled, disabled etc...
[03:31] <Karhuton> I just ran: grub-install /dev/hda, but reading 'hda' device with 'more' still shows string "LILO" in the beginning
[03:31] <owtput> kemik: what were the error messages?:Q
[03:32] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: I'm not familiar with those distros (debian person)
[03:32] <Karhuton> grub-install said though, 'Installation finished. No errors reported"
[03:32] <kemik> owtput:  dont remember exactly.. someting about font-paths and missing fonts etc
[03:32] <joee> how do I get the name of my machine?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: if you install a daemon in ubuntu it will be started on boot by default
[03:32] <volatile_> so is ubuntu the best version of linux?
[03:32] <hansi_xp> na
[03:32] <Karhuton> volatile_, No
[03:32] <volatile_> what is the best version?
[03:32] <volatile_> and why?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: sshd, samba etc
[03:32] <hansi_xp> debian
[03:32] <Karhuton> volatile_, There isn't one
[03:32] <kiwiki> there are no best version
[03:32] <Karhuton> volatile_, Each distro for each need
[03:33] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Well, do you have an idea of what I am trying to achieve? Something like what rcconf would do, only with built-in tools...
[03:33] <volatile_> linux sux at playing windows games :D
[03:33] <kiwiki> you choose that you love ..
[03:33] <hansi_xp> drugs
[03:33] <joee> :D
[03:33] <Karhuton> volatile_, My car sucks at driving on two wheels
[03:33] <joee> how do I get the name of my machine?
[03:33] <Karhuton> volatile_, I don't know why
[03:33] <owtput> kemik: omg, i dunno how I addressed that to you
[03:33] <kemik> uname
[03:33] <volatile_> lol
[03:33] <volatile_> that makes no sense
[03:33] <kemik> or wait not
[03:33] <kemik> that one
[03:33] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: maybe you woud like the "BUM" app - Boot Up Manager
[03:33] <owtput> kemik: i was busily typing at the console. i was half asleep, i guess.
[03:33] <kemik> owtput:  ;)
[03:33] <Karhuton> volatile_, That's because you're too stupid to understand it?
[03:33] <volatile_> so you guys dont play games?
[03:33] <volatile_> hey
[03:33] <volatile_> relax
[03:33] <owtput> gnite all
[03:33] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: I'd have to google a link...
[03:33] <volatile_> no need for name calling
[03:34] <volatile_> did I offend you?
[03:34] <volatile_> lol
[03:34] <kemik> volatile_:  doom3 and Unreal Tournament is available for linux
[03:34] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: I shall apt-get the hell out of it then.
[03:34] <oonoon> hi everybody
[03:34] <kemik> volatile_:  and you can use Cedegea for WoW and lots of other games
[03:34] <thoreauputic> volatile_: your nick is well chosen ;)
[03:34] <volatile_> cedega costs money
[03:34] <volatile_> heh
[03:34] <volatile_> thx
[03:34] <hansi_xp> how do you put someones name in front?
[03:34] <oonoon> do you know what's the encryption algorithm used with the 'vim -x' command ?
[03:34] <Karhuton> Use cedega-cvs
[03:34] <guydebord> icewt: I installed the gimp-helpbrowser succesful, but I still get the message Could not open '/usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading: No such file or directory. What should I change in preferences or should I move files around?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: afaik bum is not in the repos
[03:34] <volatile_> hey
[03:35] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Darn.
[03:35] <volatile_> Karhuton, could you please walk me through the installation of cedega-cvs?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: hang on a minute
[03:35] <Karhuton> And if you want, then later on buy Cedega. It's better and easier to use than the CVS "hack"
[03:35] <volatile_> I tried but failed
[03:35] <Karhuton> volatile_, NO
[03:35] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Well, actually... now that I know that there are no runlevels on debian, rcconf makes more sense.
[03:35] <volatile_> ok
[03:35] <volatile_> np then :D
[03:35] <volatile_> I'll figure it out sometime :D
[03:35] <volatile_> right now I have vmware
[03:35] <Seveas> mr_daemon, there are runlevels on debiam
[03:35] <volatile_> workstation
[03:35] <Seveas> debian*
[03:36] <hansi_xp> who watches american chopper?
[03:36] <Seveas> but levels 3,4,5 are not used by default
[03:36] <volatile_> but I basically have to install windows, and that sux
[03:36] <volatile_> I would rather run games off the linux
[03:36] <volatile_> to get the most out of my hardware
[03:36] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: just to confuse you: there are runlevels, but the only two commonly used are 1 and 2
[03:36] <Seveas> thoreauputic, and 0 and 6 :)
[03:36] <volatile_> 0 is power off
[03:36] <kemik> volatile_:  you'll get the most out of your hardware on Windows
[03:36] <volatile_> and 6 is reboot?
[03:36] <Seveas> yup
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: indeed :)
[03:36] <hansi_xp> okay, who watches porn?
[03:36] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: I got that so far
[03:36] <volatile_> yea, but I want to learn linux
[03:36] <volatile_> I do
[03:36] <Seveas> so the majority of rinlevels is used :)
[03:36] <volatile_> watch porn
[03:36] <compdude> i thoutgh 3 was multiuser/standard
[03:36] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: :)
[03:37] <pitti> jelkner: please continue here to not clutter up the development channel
[03:37] <Seveas> compdude, 2 is multiuser
[03:37] <volatile_> I have a lot of it, but not too much ;)
[03:37] <kemik> im guessing you're too young for porn volatile_ :O
[03:37] <thoreauputic> compdude: not in debian/ubuntu
[03:37] <volatile_> lol
[03:37] <volatile_> I'm 23
[03:37] <volatile_> :D
[03:37] <guydebord> How can I make my gimp access the help browser that I just installed?
[03:37] <hansi_xp> :D
[03:37] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: I mean, I have administered commercial unices that had no system V style init at all.
[03:37] <Seveas> take the porn discussion elsewhere....
[03:37] <Seveas> highly off limits in here
[03:37] <volatile_> lol, someone just asked and I responded, not actually discussing it
[03:38] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: man, you won't have any trouble then :)
[03:38] <pitti> jelkner: hm, making an user member of www-data doesn't sound rivht
[03:38] <volatile_> but yea, I want to learn linuz
[03:38] <hansi_xp> you people are too serious
[03:38] <pitti> jelkner: you should rather configure your ftp server appropriately
[03:38] <jelkner> pitti: what is the right way to do this?
[03:38] <volatile_> I dual boot, ubuntu and windows XP
[03:38] <hansi_xp> me too
[03:38] <jelkner> if you could give me some pointers, i promise to put a mini-how to on the wiki
[03:38] <volatile_> and I have another version of linux on my XP installation, using VMware
[03:38] <jelkner> i searched, there is not good documentation i could find
[03:39] <Seveas> jelkner, in the configuration for the ftp server you can usually set a umask too
[03:39] <volatile_> when I installed windows on linux using VMware
[03:39] <hansi_xp> go the windows xp
[03:39] <Seveas> clearly this umask is wrong in the config
[03:39] <volatile_> it wasn't a good scene
[03:39] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: in case you are interested in BUM --> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=75
[03:39] <volatile_> linux owns when it comes to minimizing resources
[03:39] <Digital_Warrior0> i have a question if any one is up for it
[03:39] <volatile_> linux is like windows after a fresh install
[03:39] <guillem> I would buy a video-camera. Which kind are better, tape-based ones or DVD-based ones?
[03:39] <volatile_> super fast
[03:39] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Yeah, I found it in the faq and already installed it :P
[03:39] <jelkner> Seveas: and that would be where?
[03:39] <hansi_xp> yeah but linux doesn't have winamp
[03:39] <arphetic> volatile_: your a funny guy
[03:39] <jelkner> i'm in /etc
[03:39] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: toofast for me ! *grin*
[03:39] <Seveas> jelkner, depends on which ftp server you use..
[03:40] <volatile_> arphetic, you being sarcastic?
[03:40] <jelkner> ah
[03:40] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: It is pretty cute looking
[03:40] <azriel0184> ok, i just installed ubuntu, and in the installer i setup two sata drives. well, now when i boot it up it wont boot because it cant find them.
[03:40] <azriel0184> any ideas on how to get my ubuntu to recognise my sata drives on boot? my /usr is on one of them, so no way i can boot unless that is mounted
[03:40] <arphetic> pwd => /home/arphetic
[03:40] <jelkner> vsftp
[03:40] <jelkner> is there a better one?
[03:40] <volatile_> lol
[03:40] <arphetic> volatile_: you made me laugh
[03:40] <agraupe> is there a text-mode browser that supports Javascript?
[03:40] <azriel0184> i added sata_via to /etc/modules... is there anything else i need to add?
[03:40] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: aaaaaand hangs.
[03:40] <Seveas> azriel0184, 'can't find them' is not really descriptive...
[03:40] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: hmm
[03:40] <jelkner> what is the ubuntu "standard"
[03:40] <jelkner> ?
[03:40] <pitti> jelkner: vsftp is fine and the Ubuntu standard
[03:40] <Seveas> jelkner, vsftpd is good
[03:41] <arphetic> Monsterjam 0wnET
[03:41] <azriel0184> Seveas: it isnt adding the device nodes at all
[03:41] <guillem> azriel0184, don't know, I have whole ubuntu in sata without trouble
[03:41] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: you don't want to hear that it Works for Me (tm)
[03:41] <jelkner> i tried sticking to the standard
[03:41] <volatile_> the funny thing is, I'm not trying to be funny, just trying to voice the "winblows" mindset :D
[03:41] <Seveas> azriel0184, are the sata drivers in your initrd?
[03:41] <jelkner> but the only file i see in /etc is ftpusers
[03:41] <guydebord> How can I make my gimp access the help browser that I just installed?
[03:41] <Seveas> vsftpd: etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:41] <Seveas> vsftpd: etc/ftpusers
[03:42] <azriel0184> Seveas: i added sata_via to /etc/modules
[03:42] <volatile_> Gosh, it would be GREAT if I could somehow run my warcraft 3 on linux...
[03:42] <jelkner> ok, i should have thought of that :-(
[03:42] <azriel0184> so, i think so
[03:42] <volatile_> could someone help me install the cedega source stuff?
[03:42] <volatile_> I can find the site and stuff, but I don't know how to compile it or use the settings, or whatever
[03:42] <kemik> volatile_:  think WINE cna help you with wc3.. see winehq.com
[03:42] <Seveas> azriel0184, well, that's just adding them to the loaded modules, but the frivers themself need to be in the initrd too
[03:42] <volatile_> I tried wine, it sux :/
[03:42] <azriel0184> Seveas: where, how?
[03:43] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Oh, wait, it works. It just took a while to start. Aaaand I just realized that I fetched the .deb without knowing for what architecture it was, and it apparently worked o.o
[03:43] <volatile_> I want something better :D
[03:43] <volatile_> higher quality :D
[03:43] <volatile_> will wine let me play warcraft off my ntfs drive or do I have to do a fresh install?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: ah. all's well then...
[03:43] <azriel0184> Seveas: where/how do i add the drivers?
[03:44] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Well, I'm on a powerpc platform. Works well so far.
[03:44] <jmyers> does anyone have experience with setting up wireless in ubuntu?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: cool ;)
[03:44] <WOMAN> when I go into System|Administration|Networking and type in my root passwd it causes a wierd error and says something about a child dependancy. Does anyone know what that means and how to fix it?
[03:44] <volatile_> how do I run a game with wine?
[03:44] <mr_daemon> thoreauputic: Well thank you for your help, it is appreciated. :)
[03:44] <volatile_> for instance
[03:45] <volatile_> my war3.exe is located
[03:45] <thoreauputic> mr_daemon: pleasure :)
[03:45] <mindamp> how do i change my eth0 setup after the install?
[03:45] <volatile_> /mnt/winXP/Program Files/Warcraft III/War3.exe
[03:45] <mindamp> i have no guis...
[03:45] <mindamp> base server isntall
[03:45] <Seveaz> azriel0184, well, that's just adding them to the loaded modules, but the frivers themself need to be in the initrd too
[03:45] <Seveaz> azriel0184, have you tried searching the forums? I recall having seen others with the same problem
[03:45] <Seveaz> WOMAN, the menu items need your own password
[03:45] <volatile_> do I have to do a fresh install?
[03:45] <volatile_> if so
[03:45] <Seveaz> not a root password
[03:45] <volatile_> how would I do it?
[03:45] <zukalk> gconf is amazing.. all the stuff i wanted to change and tried to during weeks, and now i solved it all. my spatial is now normal, galeon looks the way want it, and so on
[03:46] <mindamp> everytime i google it, or check the forums...
[03:46] <WOMAN> cheers i'll have a closer look
[03:46] <azriel0184> Seveaz: i did a little, and i remember fixing this the last time i used ubuntu... i just dont remember how
[03:46] <mindamp> all the answersinclude using x windows...
[03:46] <Seveas> WOMAN, if you can't solve it - msg me in 10 minutes, I have to go now
[03:46] <mindamp> where is the file that contains the configuration for the nics?
[03:46] <WOMAN> thanks
[03:46] <pax> mindamp: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:47] <jmyers> i've tried using ndiswrapper to get my windows broadcom driver to work with my integrated wireless, but when i get it set up and modprobe it it says "operation not permitted"
[03:47] <Darkshrimp> hey people
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> i have 2 questions
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> can anyone help me?
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> with ubuntu
[03:48] <nomis_> Darkshrimp, just ask the questions ;)
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> cool :)
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> 1st. how do you connect to dial up *i setted up already, but how to do dial*
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> 2nd. how do u access D drive
[03:48] <Darkshrimp> brb
[03:49] <jmyers> so anybody know about wireless?
[03:49] <nomis_> d drive?
[03:49] <guillem> Darkshrimp, system->Admin->networking select the ppp and activate it, I guess
[03:49] <joee> hey where do I find the sldap.conf?
[03:49] <guillem> Darkshrimp, probably also "sudo ifconfig ppp0 up"
[03:50] <nomis_> jmyers, are you doing modprobe with sudo?
[03:50] <guillem> Darkshrimp, probably easier
[03:50] <jmyers> yes
[03:50] <nomis_> joee, locate sldap.conf ;)
[03:50] <mojo333> Does anyone know why, that no matter how many times I change it, the workspace switcher always changes back to four panels?
[03:50] <displague> is there a recommended x font server for ubuntu?  xfs, xfstt, or xfs-xtt?  xfs seems to be preferred based on the 7100 port in xorg.conf, but xfs-xtt has more features (according to the package info)
[03:51] <joee> nomis_ doesn't get anything already tried
[03:51] <jmyers> ndiswrapper -l says that both driver and hardware are present
[03:51] <michele> displague, you shouldn't need a font server at all
[03:51] <pippin> where can I find the config file used to build the stock ubuntu kernel?
[03:52] <displague> michele: understood, but i'ld just love to know.  does ubuntu enable it out of the box?
[03:52] <LinuxDolt> !printing
[03:52] <ubotu> LinuxDolt: Are you smoking crack?
[03:52] <LinuxDolt> !cups
[03:52] <ubotu> LinuxDolt: Are you smoking crack?
[03:52] <LinuxDolt> blah
[03:52] <guydebord> I just checked and my gimp helpbrowser is installed but gimp help keeps saying it is missing. Can somebody please tell me what I have to cahnge?
[03:52] <displague> what i'm really after is the package that provides 'fixed'.  x is starting because it can't find the file, and my fontpaths all seem to be correct (/usr/share/X11/fonts)
[03:52] <LinuxDolt> ok, appearantly printing doesn't auto-configure
[03:53] <LinuxDolt> i can't find the printing docs
[03:53] <LinuxDolt> so where are they?
[03:53] <displague> pippin: /boot
[03:53] <Darkshrimp> guyz, i followed this guide, i went to termials type din sudo pppconfig, and seted it up
[03:53] <thoreauputic> guydebord: did you try re-starting gimp?
[03:53] <Darkshrimp> and it says to connect just type pon... but where do i type it and i typed it in termnials and it didn't work
[03:53] <pippin> displague: thank you,. (I was looking for config.gz in proc)
[03:54] <mojo333> umms, alright, since noone answered, does anyone know where I would find the config file for the workspace switcher?
[03:54] <michele> displague, ubuntu doesn't install a font server. fixed is in xfonts-base, IIRC, try reconfiguring that
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Darkshrimp: is your user in the dip and dialout groups? And did you specify a providername?
[03:54] <displague> root@bang:/proc# dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base
[03:54] <displague> root@bang:/proc#
[03:54] <displague> nice ...
[03:55] <Darkshrimp> providername, i left it as provider, and wat u mean dip and dailout:S
[03:55] <Darkshrimp> i'm really new to ubuntu
[03:55] <thoreauputic> Darkshrimp: is this an internal modem?
[03:55] <michele> displague, xlsfonts | grep fixed
[03:55] <Darkshrimp> yes
[03:55] <duality_> how can you run a graphics program from the terminal so that it doesn't "stop" the terminal until that program is closed?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> Darkshrimp: it's probably a Winodem - might not be supported
[03:55] <rob_newbie> Hey all,  I have a problem setting up my old laptop.  It is a CTX Ezbook 700 and I would like to install linux.  However I was given it formated and I have not been able to get it to recognize the cd rom. It is a removable bay.  I have cheacked connections.  Any suggestions?
[03:55] <duality_> I know it's something like "program options %1" or something
[03:56] <thoreauputic> *winmodem
[03:56] <mlacage_> duality_, "program options &"
[03:56] <duality_> thanks
[03:56] <michele> mojo333, gconf-editor /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager
[03:56] <mlacage_> duality_, when it is already running, you can type "ctrl-z" to stop it
[03:56] <gmoore> i'm trying to install ruby on apache2 in ubuntu; i need to put eruby in the cgi-bin directory apparently, but there doesn't seem to be one anywhere in my install. any guesses as to where i should make one?
[03:56] <displague> michele: i don't think that would work, since that asks X, which I'm not in - because it won't start.. in addition, i don't have xlsfonts for some reason (just upgraded from hoary to breezy - so all hell has broken loose)
[03:56] <mlacage_> duality_, and then you type "bg" to restart it in the background
[03:57] <mlacage_> duality_, or "fg" in the foreground
[03:57] <michele> oh breezy upgrade...
[03:57] <rob_newbie> I have aquired a ctx ezbook 700. formated and cannot install operating system due to not being able to find the cdrom
[03:57] <guim> hi all
[03:57] <rob_newbie> any suggestions?
[03:57] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, install from the network
[03:57] <guim> i have a question about imageMagik command tools
[03:57] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, can your laptop do netboot ?
[03:58] <LinuxDolt> anyone know where the printing documentation is at?
[03:58] <rob_newbie> I have not tried
[03:58] <displague> duality_ : and you can do "program options  2>&1 > /dev/null & " if the program is too noisy
[03:58] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, look in the bios. there should be something.
[03:58] <guim> does anyone know if mogrigy or any of the available comamnd allow to modify a complet set of GIF images colors?
[03:58] <rob_newbie> How would I net boot?
[03:58] <LinuxDolt> i want to fricken get my printer working.  i've been ignoring it, but it's time to get it done
[03:58] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, in the boot order options, you should see something related to network
[03:58] <guim> I mean replace color X by color Y in 50 images
[03:58] <guim> at once
[03:58] <guim> ?
[03:58] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, maybe under the heading "PXE"
[03:59] <displague> guim: for a in *gif; do mogrify blah $a; done ??
[03:59] <guydebord> thoreauputic: Restarted Gimp and I get an empty Help Browser dialog box. Plus an error message that gimp help-en is not installed. I'll try that now.
[03:59] <displague> guim: oh - you mean the frames of the gif?
[03:59] <guim> I have 100 .gif files
[03:59] <thoreauputic> guydebord: oh i see - not exactly intuitive stuff...
[03:59] <rob_newbie> No It gives three options CD, Hard disk, and Diskette drive
[04:00] <guim> where I want to change color #124589 by #156785 for example
[04:00] <displague> guim: then what i said will work
[04:00] <linux_dude> hi all
[04:00] <guim> mogrify blah $a; done ??
[04:00] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, well, the cd does not work, then the easiest thing to do is install on the HD with another laptop and then boot it
[04:00] <linux_dude> how will i connect to postgres
[04:01] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, I wouldn't recommend trying to install with disks :)
[04:01] <rob_newbie> LOL yeah
[04:01] <benjamin1254> sup rob
[04:01] <guim> displague, could you give a command example?
[04:01] <displague> guim: just make sure the wildcard fits the files.. yes... "for a in pr0n-*.gif; do mogrify -options "$a"; done" ... you may have to give to file names, so "mogrify $a $a.new" might be needed.
[04:01] <guim> i didn't get it
[04:02] <rob_newbie> Well can I install the driver from the a drive?
[04:02] <eliphas_> sure
[04:02] <guim> ok I can't do that in justb one commaden line then
[04:03] <benjamin1254> im running gnome how do i get the new apt-get servers?
[04:03] <displague> guim: i use convert (also imagemagik) all the time, so i would say "for a in *jpg; do convert -scale 640 $a; done"  (but i wouldn't really do that, i'ld try to preserve tags
[04:03] <linux_dude> how can in work in postgres
[04:03] <displague> guim: you run that from the shell
[04:03] <guim> ok
[04:03] <guim> thank you i will try
[04:03] <eliphas_> new apt-get servers from shell ?
[04:03] <guim> thx displague
[04:04] <benjamin1254> yes
[04:04] <gmoore> i installed php4 and ruby1.8.2 both using apt-get for apache; apache sees them (i know because if i go to an error404 page on my webserver they're listed at the bottom). making a .php page uses the php parser; however i cannot get ruby to parse anything (tried .rb and .rhtml). i looked in apache2.conf but it doesn't say anything about php OR ruby, so i don't know what it's looking for.
[04:04] <guim> mayby see you later, i will try that
[04:04] <guydebord> thoeaputic: synaptic isn't letting me mark gimp help-eng for installation. Could you help me with the command in shell? Im still pretty green.
[04:04] <rob_newbie> Hey
[04:04] <Davey> gmoore, check in /etc/apache/conf.d IIRC
[04:05] <displague> gmoore: apt-get install libapache-mod-ruby (or libapache2-mod-ruby)
[04:05] <gmoore> davey: all that is there is 'charset'
[04:05] <volatile_> man I can't seem to get wine working :/
[04:05] <computergee> im having trouble with the nvidia drivers, every time i reboot or restartx, o have to reinstall
[04:05] <gmoore> displague: i did that, check it out: http://titaniumone.mine.nu/aaaa
[04:05] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, I don't undertsnad your question. what exactly is not working with your cd drive ?
[04:05] <volatile_> could someone help me through it?
[04:05] <volatile_> I got it installed
[04:05] <volatile_> but I can't run my game
[04:05] <jelkner> pitti: thanks a 10**6! everything is working fine...
[04:05] <gmoore> at the bottom of the page, "Ruby/1.8.2(2004-12-23)" -- so apache sees it. how the heck do i invoke it?
[04:05] <jelkner> you were most helpful
[04:05] <displague> gmoore: a2enmod ruby
[04:05] <gmoore> displague: ?
[04:06] <computergee> im having trouble with the nvidia drivers, every time i reboot or restartx, o have to reinstall, im running ubuntu
[04:06] <pitti> jelkner: well, I didn't do much :-) What was the solution? indeed ftp server config?
[04:06] <displague> gmoore: enables the module using the goodness of the /etc/apache2/mods-availables/ruby.conf file
[04:06] <jelkner> in /etc/vsftp.conf i just changed the default umask
[04:06] <lesshaste> is there a 64 bit ubuntu channel?
[04:07] <jelkner> Seveas: thanks to you, too!
[04:07] <benjamin1254> srry cant get enough of that 1
[04:07] <gmoore> displague: ahhhhh, move ruby.conf to mods-enabled?
[04:07] <XandriX> debootstrap program exited with an eror (return value 1)
[04:07] <rob_newbie> mlacage: When installing an operating system it states it cannot be installed for one of the fallowing reasons.  Hard drive not found or cd-rom not found
[04:07] <michele> gmoore, symlink it
[04:07] <gmoore> displague: wait nevermind, there is no ruby.conf in mods-available. what :(
[04:07] <displague> gmoore: oh - i see.. the mod is already loaded... check that conf file forr the addtype lines
[04:07] <alex__> I am using camstream, but I am not sure how to strem :), I have read the doc but appart from saying that pict can be saved to FTP I can't find how to do thi
[04:08] <benjamin1254> where cn i find more gnome splash screens?
[04:08] <gmoore> displague: the conf file is not there :)
[04:08] <gmoore> perhaps that is my problem
[04:08] <rob_newbie> It will not boot to cd and I can get the prompt for the harddrive not the cd
[04:08] <displague> gmoore: a2enmod does the work for you.. if there is no conf file then maybe you should make one up... or check around conf.d (i haven't used the ruby mod, but php works as i am describing)
[04:08] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, "an operating system" ?
[04:09] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, what are you doing exactly ? inserting a floppy in the floppy drive to boot with the floppy ?
[04:09] <gmoore> invoke 'a2enmod ruby' from anywhere?
[04:09] <rob_newbie> yes
[04:09] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, why don't you boot from a cd ?
[04:10] <filip_> how can i get shockwave in ubuntu?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !flash
[04:10] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:10] <gmoore> garrett@opti:/etc/apache2$ a2enmod ruby
[04:10] <gmoore> This module is already enabled!
[04:10] <rob_newbie> It just states invalid system disk.  even if I put a windows disk in
[04:10] <filip_> yes but i need shockwave.
[04:11] <alex__> how can I read a webcam stream from a sequence of images saved on a ftp server ?
[04:11] <Nermal> rob_newbie, set it to boot from cd in the bios
[04:11] <displague> gmoore: i see this.. try /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-ruby/examples/httpd.conf-apache2 -- copy that to /etc/apache2/mods-available/ruby.conf and then a2dismod ruby; a2enmod ruby
[04:11] <arphetic> Anyone has ET installed on Ubuntu?
[04:11] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, I am not sure I understand what you are doing but here is my suggestion: 1) go to the bios, edit the "boot order". Make sure cdrom is before floppy and before HD. 2) insert linux CD in cd drive 3) boot computer
[04:12] <rob_newbie> Yes 1st
[04:12] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, make sure you remove any floppy in the floppy drive too. this can't hurt
[04:12] <rob_newbie> It is set up like that
[04:12] <clem_yeats> mlacage_: I hurt my finger once like that..
[04:12] <mlacage_> so, you insert the cd in the drive, what _exact_ error do you get ?
[04:12] <roham_> !pastebin
[04:13] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:13] <rob_newbie> atempting...
[04:13] <displague> gmoore: it looks like that conf file expects ruby scripts to be run from /ruby in the document root -- extensions .rbx only (maybe)
[04:13] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, can you hear the cdrom drive trying to read the cdrom ?
[04:13] <filip_> is it someone that use shockwave?
[04:14] <michele> filip_, macromedia doesn't do a shockwave plugin for linux
[04:14] <computergee> im having trouble with the nvidia drivers, every time i reboot or restartx, o have to reinstall, im running ubuntu
[04:14] <benjamin1254> :'(
[04:14] <rob_newbie> States "Missing operating system"
[04:15] <guydebord> just tryed to install gimp help-eng with cmd  sudo apt-get install gimp help-eng. Received a messageCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and unable to unlock adm dir. Maybe cuz synaptic is still open will retry now.
[04:15] <gmoore> displague: ahh, makes sense. ok, done. should there be an addtype .rb in that conf somewhere? i don't see one
[04:15] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, are you sure the cdrom drive is spinning and doing some noises ?
[04:15] <filip_> Michel: okey. that is bad now i can play poker on internet.
[04:15] <displague> gmoore: there is .rbx, and some commented out stuff
[04:15] <azriel0184> can i load a kernel module after bootup?
[04:15] <rob_newbie> Yes I can feel it spinning
[04:15] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, where did you get that cd from ?
[04:15] <displague> azriel0184 : modprobe modulename
[04:15] <lesshaste> azriel0184: yes.. modprobe
[04:16] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, every linux cd I know of is bootable
[04:16] <Hoxzer> how do they usually end a letter in England?
[04:16] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, maybe you should try to boot this CD from another computer to make sure it is a bootable cd.
[04:16] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, other than that, I am at a loss
[04:17] <displague> azriel0184 : the modules available live in /lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel ... you can generally "modinfo -p modulename" to get options (leave the .so or .ko off when using modprobe or rmmod, but not when using insmod)
[04:17] <rob_newbie> Well I have tried it with a linux, college linux, redhat, ubuntu, win95,win xp.  all of wich I have installed befor on other systems and were bootable
[04:17] <gmoore> displague: so what should i be uncommenting now? i'm unsure about this
[04:18] <roham_> !pastebin
[04:18] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:18] <rob_newbie> all it states is Missing operating system
[04:18] <lesshaste> rob_newbie: what exactly is the problem?
[04:18] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, try to revert the bios to its default settings.
[04:19] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, honestly, this kind of error usually comes because the bios is trying to read the HD and the boot record of the HD is corrupted.
[04:19] <displague> computergee: when you install the nvidia drivers (from X), you won't see the affects right away... You should make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before doing this (the install of the nvidia drivers may already do this)... If X stops working you just copy the backup file back and you should be ok... to test the nvidia drivers without quiting your working X, try doing "X :1" from a shell.. if it works you will see a black and white screen wi
[04:19] <gmoore> displague: ah, now i get 'forbidden' when i try to open a .rbx on my server. i guess that means i'm getting somewhere.
[04:19] <dabear> Hi, IS it at all possible to convert a ntfs station to ext2/3/reiser without loosing data?
[04:20] <mlacage_> rob_newbie, so, here, it should not happen because you boot from the CD.
[04:20] <displague> computergee: to return to your working x... but oh well, you are gone
[04:20] <guydebord> everything fine now with gimp help. Thanks everyone
[04:20] <rob_newbie> do I just load previous values in bios
[04:20] <rob_newbie> I see
[04:21] <displague> gmoore: may want to check the permission on the file - make sure www-data can get in on  group acess or other access  (chmod -R g+r,o+r ruby/)
[04:21] <gmoore> well test.rb is in the documentroot and i can open test.php fine, but not test.rb
[04:22] <rob_newbie> lesshaste; I hava CTX Ezbook 700 and it was formated befor I got it.  Now I cannot boot from cd to install an operating system
[04:22] <displague> dabear: backup to somewhere else, then restore.. ntfs is not 100% safely supported... there are tools to try it - but i wouldn't recommend them
[04:22] <spola> how do i move a file named (eg) readme.txt to readme_X.txt (where X is the first "free number")?
[04:23] <dabear> displague: Ok, so there are no other possibilities? Idon't have another 100Gib available..
[04:23] <Seveas> spola, that'll be hard...
[04:23] <Seveas> (to do automagically)
[04:23] <spola> perhaps i should ask in bash
[04:23] <rob_newbie> Ok nothing sucessfull on reloadinf values still stuck not booting a cd
[04:23] <displague> dabear: there is a package called convertfs - but go into this thinking you just lost 100gb of ntfs data before starting
[04:23] <Seveas> I think a perl script is more reasonable spola :)
[04:24] <Seveas> although...
[04:24] <spola> i only need to know how to seperate the extension and filename actually
[04:24] <gmoore> displague: it seems to be forbidden no matter what i chmod it as... just tried chmod 777 test.rb and i still can't open it in my browser
[04:24] <displague> gmoore : 666 and 777 are evil - don't ever do that
[04:24] <dabear> ok, thx, then I just have to boot windows each time I want to alter the data stored on that partition:(
[04:24] <gmoore> displague: k.
[04:24] <displague> gmoore : aside from that, the forbidden is coming from something else.. hmmm
[04:25] <gmoore> http://titaniumone.mine.nu/test.php
[04:25] <gmoore> that works fine... test.rb is in the same dir
[04:25] <gmoore> http://titaniumone.mine.nu/test.rb
[04:25] <spola> Seveas, do you know perl?
[04:25] <Seveas> a bit, but I prefer python usually :)
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... python is in rage
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> guido did a good job with it
[04:27] <displague> gmoore: you have to put it in /ruby under the apache document root (did you see my message earlier... so most likely /var/www/ruby)
[04:27] <rob_newbie> Well anyone like the weird type computer problems?
[04:27] <spola> python is pretty cool... but i'd prefer bash for shell scripting because you can usually assume it's there
[04:28] <displague> gmoore: if you want it in your server root, you should copy the conf file into your <virtualhost> block
[04:28] <gmoore> oops, i think i screwed up a chmod because i'm getting this now. how do i fix it? ;)
[04:28] <gmoore> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 0440
[04:28] <displague> gmoore: sorry, virtual server root
[04:28] <gmoore> i typed this by mistake, hehe > sudo chmod -R g+r,o+r ./
[04:28] <displague> gmoore: what path were you in?  you may have done a great deal of damage
[04:29] <gmoore> /mnt/storage/www
[04:29] <gmoore> empty dir except test.php test.rb
[04:29] <reiki_work> question regarding spam blocking and Evolution. I install Spamassassin, but that doesn't "just simply work" with Evolution. It appears there are ways to MAKE it work, but they seem kludgey. Is there a better solution for spam blocking in Evolution? Hopefully something where you just install a package and maybe do a minor config? The junk mail filters in Evolution are not sufficient.   Thanks!
[04:29] <Oly> hi i am a little trouble with a sata hard disk i just installed, i have mounted & partitioned it fine but am getting errors from e2fsck
[04:29] <spola> gmoore, that shuldn't have caused any troubler then
[04:30] <vitriol> reiki_work: not really
[04:30] <Oly> which says something like this, The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[04:30] <vitriol> reiki_work: you can set up filters in evolution
[04:30] <gmoore> it changed the chmod of sudo or something, every time i use sudo now i get this error: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 0440
[04:30] <paulo> ubuntu para portugues brasil pleace
[04:30] <reiki_work> vitriol: heheh.... that's not very encouraging :)
[04:30] <Seveas> !br
[04:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[04:30] <paulo> br
[04:30] <Oly> its formatted as an ext3 partition so why its checking it as ext 2 i have no idea
[04:30] <vitriol> reiki_work: there is a bount out for writing a good bayesian filter for thunderbird
[04:30] <vitriol> reiki_work: if you're interested and talented ;)
[04:30] <Oly> the boot process stops and says press ctrl + d to continue
[04:30] <displague> gmoore: that should have affected /etc/sudoers -- are you sure? ls -al /etc/shadow, should read rw-r----- if there is an extra "r" then the chmod did a little too much work
[04:30] <Seveas> spola, an 11 line bash script solves your problem
[04:31] <Oly> because of this, any one got any ideas as to the cause / fix ?
[04:31] <vitriol> reiki_work: may others have complained about the poor spam filtering capabilities in their mail clients
[04:31] <gmoore> -rw-r--r--  1 root shadow
[04:31] <reiki_work> vitriol: a "bount"? I don't mind a little experimenting
[04:31] <gmoore> uh oh :(
[04:31] <displague> gmoore: chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[04:31] <vitriol> reiki_work: bounty....cash reward for writing the software
[04:31] <Seveas> spola, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1365
[04:31] <vitriol> reiki_work: $500USD i think
[04:31] <displague> gmoore: the rest of your files need to be locked down
[04:31] <reiki_work> vitriol:  ah!  hahaha... afraid I'm not a coder
[04:31] <gmoore> garrett@opti:/mnt/storage/www$ sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[04:31] <gmoore> isnt working
[04:31] <spola> Seveas, thanks a million times dude
[04:31] <vitriol> reiki_work: the only mail client i've ever successfully used spamassasin with
[04:31] <vitriol> was mutt
[04:32] <gmoore> nm did su and now it's okay
[04:32] <Seveas> spola, you need to change line 8 -- you'll see why :)
[04:32] <alex__> I have just installed pd with synaptic
[04:32] <gmoore> what do you mean the rest of my files need to be locked down? did it mess up the permissions of the entire system or something? D:
[04:32] <alex__> but here we go
[04:32] <vitriol> mutt (1)             - The Mutt Mail User Agent
[04:32] <alex__> alex@ubu:~$ pd
[04:32] <alex__> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file o r directory
[04:32] <alex__> Segmentation fault
[04:32] <alex__> alex@ubu:~$ pd_gui: pd process exited
[04:32] <reiki_work> vitriol: I used a spam blocker on my WinXP setup that basically sat between my mail client and the pop server. It works rather well. Maybe I can find similar for Ubuntu
[04:32] <spola> Seveas, np ... the guys in #bash just told me how to extract file and extension from a filename (${filename##*.} and  ${filename%.*})
[04:32] <vitriol> reiki_work: good luck. i hope you find one :)
[04:33] <displague> gmoore : aye... your password files can be read by anonmous web crackers now... or any other user on the system...
[04:33] <arphetic> Is there a possibility to connect a computer with Inet through an USB connection wth an other pc?
[04:33] <gmoore> displague: how would i fix that then? as you can see i am very new to linux :(
[04:34] <shekhar> hello my sound has gone off, how to get it back on?
[04:34] <vitriol> shekhar: alsamixer
[04:34] <vitriol> shekhar: you have to use it on the command line
[04:34] <vitriol> shekhar: you probably just need to unmute your sound in alsamixer
[04:35] <vitriol> gah....well if you have an alsa card.....
[04:35] <vitriol> maybe not everyone has alsamixer :|
[04:35] <shekhar> alsamixer is on
[04:36] <thoreauputic> vitriol: alsamixer is installed by default :)
[04:36] <arphetic> Is there a possibility to connect a computer with Inet through an USB connection wth an other pc?
[04:36] <gmoore> displague: ?
[04:36] <shekhar> alsamixer not doing anything
[04:36] <displague> gmoore: I can send you a script to set the permissions back based on my system, but since we have different packages installed some file may be left more readable than they used to be - but very few files are locked down so that group and other can not read them
[04:37] <gmoore> displague: thats ok, and i would appreciate it
[04:37] <displague> gmoore: email address
[04:37] <gmoore> garrettmoore@gmail.com
[04:37] <mrstarkweather> how does one "log in as the root user"?
[04:37] <gmoore> thanks a lot
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> !root
[04:37] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:37] <Karhuton> gmoore, you could reinstall lot of the packages
[04:37] <Karhuton> Disabled?
[04:37] <Karhuton> I just did: sudo password
[04:37] <Karhuton> :\
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> thats sudo
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> not root
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:37] <Karhuton> *passwd, I meant
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> different things altogether
[04:38] <shekhar> how do i unmute sound?
[04:38] <Mahasiswa> hi
[04:38] <Karhuton> wickedpuppy, you didn't understand
[04:38] <onkarshinde> I know that this is not a windows forum, but I have heard on this channel that a particular free antivirus program is best of all. Can someone recall it for me?
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> which part ?
[04:38] <Karhuton> wickedpuppy, after setting root password, using 'su' and other stuff hasn't been a problem..
[04:38] <thoreauputic> shekhar: try hitting "m" on each channel : if you see mm it's muted
[04:38] <Mahasiswa> where am i?
[04:39] <mrstarkweather> How do I log in as the root user???
[04:39] <thoreauputic> Mahasiswa: the ubuntu help channel?
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> Karhuton, .. if you tried other distros .. you know what i mean
[04:39] <Karhuton> wickedpuppy, I have. I don't understand how 'root' is disabled :\
[04:39] <Mahasiswa> and where's evry one..?
[04:39] <roham_> If i wanna update GAIM, can I download the newiest version and just do the ./configure and make ? I dont need to uninstall the old version first?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> in other distros there is no need to sudo ... just su - and enter the root pass
[04:40] <pef> hi
[04:40] <Karhuton> roham_, if you configure it to install it to /usr/local, then no
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Mahasiswa: there are 483 people in the channel - what do you mean?
[04:40] <Karhuton> wickedpuppy, lol. Sudo is easier to use than su. It's preferred in other distros too
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> real ?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> up to you
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> i prefer to enter root shell when i do sys config
[04:41] <onkarshinde> Hey Ubutnu users, please help me with a windows question. Which is the best free antivirus for windows?
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> not sudo all my commands
[04:41] <Karhuton> wickedpuppy, I use in .bashrc: alias S='sudo'
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> onkarshinde, try #windows
[04:41] <michele> wickedpuppy, sudo -s
[04:41] <clem_yeats> wickedpuppy: because you are root and you know what to do.
[04:41] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: how would we know?
[04:41] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, sudo -i
[04:41] <Seveas> (sudo -s is dangerous)
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[04:41] <Belutz> onkarshinde: i use avast :D
[04:41] <gennio> hi
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> but -s gives ya the root env ...
[04:41] <clem_yeats> hi gennio
[04:41] <Mahasiswa> thoreauputic...I get loss...what this place name's..?
[04:41] <Karhuton> wickedpuppy, typing 'sudo' all the time gets annoying. But using an easy alias helps
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> oh nvm ... its OT
[04:42] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, -s does not reset $HOME and $USER
[04:42] <Seveas> -i does
[04:42] <gennio> i don't have conection in ubuntu :S
[04:42] <gennio> :'(
[04:42] <Seveas> (it's logically equivalent to -s -H)
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Mahasiswa:  #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
[04:42] <onkarshinde> wickedpuppy: thoreauputic: because I have heard that name on this channel lot many times. Jut unable to recall.
[04:42] <roham_> Karhuton: why local? its the one that comes with Ubuntu... and I think its in /usr/bin
[04:42] <clem_yeats> karhuton: the thing is, one should not have to be root "all the time"
[04:42] <gennio> clem_yeats hi :)
[04:42] <roham_> Karhuton: so I need to uninstall it first?
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> sorry Seveas ... i meant sudo -
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> no s
[04:43] <Karhuton> roham_, it's good to install all locally compiled stuff into /usr/local
[04:43] <gennio> i have router zyxel and target dlink
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> i mean su -
[04:43] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: AVG perhaps? I don't use windows...
[04:43] <gennio> help me ! :(
[04:43] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, sudo su - works too :D
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> ok i am sleepy .. nites
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:43] <roham_> Karhuton: ok... but it dosnt do it by default right? I need to define it when I do the make?
[04:43] <Karhuton> roham_, depending on your PATH env variable, the binarys in /usr/local/bin are preferred over /usr/bin etc.
[04:44] <Karhuton> roham_, Type "./configure --help" It usually tells you how
[04:44] <Karhuton> roham_, Also ALWAYS read the 'README' or 'INSTALL' files when compiling
[04:44] <Karhuton> roham_, some developers like to use different systems
[04:44] <roham_> karhuton: ok
[04:44] <Karhuton> roham_, but propably ./configure --prefix=/usr/local works
[04:45] <roham_> Karhuton: why dosnt ubuntu put the new gaim version in apt-get?
[04:45] <matthew> On a default Hoary install, what do I need in order to play MP3's?
[04:45] <kemik> roham_:  use backports
[04:45] <Karhuton> roham_, then when you want to start the 'new' gaim, just run /usr/local/bin/gaim
[04:45] <kemik> !backports
[04:45] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[04:45] <clem_yeats> !xmms-mp3
[04:45] <ubotu> clem_yeats: Are you smoking crack?
[04:45] <clem_yeats> no
[04:45] <clem_yeats> !mp3
[04:45] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[04:45] <Karhuton> roham_, or use a backport :)
[04:45] <gennio> somebody help me ?
[04:45] <roham_> whats backport? :P
[04:46] <Karhuton> Read what 'kemik' wrote, and 'ubotu's' answer
[04:46] <roham_> Karhuton: hehe whats backport ? :P <-newbie
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> !backport
[04:46] <ubotu> backport is probably see !backports
[04:46] <clem_yeats> gennio : wifi link ?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> !backports
[04:46] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[04:46] <roham_> heh dont give me much
[04:46] <gennio> I do not have connection with ubuntu
[04:46] <clem_yeats> gennio : connection to what ?
[04:46] <gennio> clem_yeats no.. router zyxel and target dlink
[04:46] <kemik> !repositories
[04:46] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:47] <chmuri> hi
[04:47] <gennio> clem_yeats ADSL
[04:47] <clem_yeats> gennio : I don't understand..
[04:47] <chmuri> :)
[04:47] <kemik> roham_:  follow that and get the location of hoary-backports
[04:47] <NeoMac> hi everyone
[04:47] <kemik> roham_:  did you solve the ethernet-cable issue?
[04:47] <clem_yeats> gennio : you want to access the internet through a wifi adsl router ?
[04:47] <roham_> kemik: yes
[04:47] <kemik> roham_:  what was the problem ?
[04:47] <roham_> kemik: its was the interfaces file...
[04:47] <Seveas> roham_, for instance Ubuntu will not upgrade gaim for hoary. If you want a newer version, you can use a backport
[04:47] <NeoMac> enyone help me to install linux on my mac
[04:47] <roham_> kemik: some mapping was not there
[04:48] <chmuri> when 5.10 ubuntu relase??:)
[04:48] <clem_yeats> NeoMac: what's the problem ?
[04:48] <roham_> Seveas: is it on the webpage?
[04:48] <Karhuton> Is there a wiki which explains the repository naming scheme? Universe,multiverse and likes seem odd to an Debian user
[04:48] <kissmemore> hello
[04:48] <NeoMac> i was downloaded the linux operation system on ubuntu
[04:48] <NeoMac> but it doesnt works
[04:48] <roham_> !backports
[04:48] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[04:49] <gennio> clem_yeats :S
[04:49] <NeoMac> i use mac os x
[04:49] <clem_yeats> NeoMac : you downloaded the iso file of Ubuntu and burnt a CD with it ?
[04:49] <NeoMac> yes
[04:49] <benjamin1254> neomac u sure ur connection wasent interupted by chance
[04:49] <roham_> I dont get the backports thing :(
[04:49] <clem_yeats> NeoMac: then boot on the CD
[04:49] <volatile_> ok, nomatter what I do
[04:49] <volatile_> mplayer doesn't work on my system :/
[04:49] <NeoMac> boot on cd?
[04:49] <Karhuton> roham_, that's because you don't know how librarys and software versions work
[04:49] <clem_yeats> NeoMac: yes...
[04:50] <NeoMac> how?
[04:50] <NeoMac> :)
[04:50] <clem_yeats> NeoMac: insert the cd in the player, and restart the computer.
[04:50] <Karhuton> roham_, backports means just newer versions of the apps you like made compatible for the older system you're using
[04:50] <NeoMac> yes i do that
[04:50] <roham_> Karhuton: I even dont know if its a webpage or application that show me that info
[04:50] <NeoMac> but it doesnt works
[04:50] <clem_yeats> NeoMac: change the BIOS settings so that your machine boots on the CDROM
[04:50] <kemik> roham_:  search for "backports" on the wiki
[04:51] <NeoMac> bios how can i change
[04:51] <gennio> clem_yeats --> 0000:02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
[04:51] <clem_yeats> NeoMac : usually F2 or F1 at boot screen
[04:51] <tarvid> tulip driver doesn't do the job on HP laptop, the chipset is an ADMTek Centaur-P, is there a better driver?
[04:51] <clem_yeats> gennio : you want to access the internet through a wifi adsl router ?
[04:51] <NeoMac> hmm but i use mac os x
[04:52] <NeoMac> yes i have adsl
[04:52] <clem_yeats> NeoMac : this has nothing to do with MacOs X
[04:52] <thoreauputic> NeoMac: to boot from CD on a mac hold down "c"
[04:52] <NeoMac> bu i download it for powerpc
[04:52] <NeoMac> i have os 9
[04:52] <clem_yeats> NeoMac : hmm...
[04:52] <NeoMac> yes i know
[04:53] <NeoMac> it doesnt work
[04:53] <clem_yeats> what does it say ?
[04:53] <NeoMac> nothing says
[04:53] <gennio> clem_yeats--->I do not have connection with ubuntu not because.  it does not detect the connection to me
[04:53] <NeoMac> it starts os x normaly
[04:53] <clem_yeats> gennio : I repeat my question for the 3rd time..
[04:53] <clem_yeats> gennio : you want to access the internet through a wifi adsl router ?
[04:54] <gennio> clem_yeats no
[04:54] <clem_yeats> gennio : explain what you want to do
[04:54] <soad> can somebody help me? i have ubuntu installation problems?
[04:54] <NeoMac> the system dont see system in cd
[04:54] <clem_yeats> soad: just ask
[04:54] <chmuri> whyes
[04:54] <NeoMac> me too
[04:54] <chmuri> yes soad
[04:54] <chmuri> :) what problem
[04:54] <chmuri> :)
[04:55] <clem_yeats> NeoMac : your CD could have been badly burnt, or your ISO file wrongly downloaded. Try to get a md5sum prog for mac os x and check the quality of your iso file
[04:55] <gennio> clem_yeats-->not ingles.  in the Spanish channel nobody helps me
[04:56] <clem_yeats> gennio : Yo hablo espanol
[04:56] <gennio> clem_yeats wuau :)
[04:56] <NeoMac> md5sum where i can find it
[04:56] <clem_yeats> gennio : Tenia mucha suerte :))
[04:56] <Sauron21> Hi....I was wondering if there was anyway I could get a command to run on boot up right before the login screen??
[04:56] <gennio> clem_yeats nadie me ayuda en el espa?ol..
[04:56] <Karhuton> Is there a wiki which explains the repository naming scheme? Universe,multiverse and likes seem odd to an Debian user
[04:56] <gennio> si si
[04:56] <clem_yeats> gennio : pero no hablo bien... solamente un poquito
[04:57] <gennio> clem_yeats jaja mira lo que pasa es que tengo una tarjeta dlink normal.. no es wifi y un router zyxel 645 que me puso la empresa telefonica
[04:57] <NeoMac> hey where i can ffind that program
[04:57] <gennio> pero no me detecta la conexion creo k no le asigna las IP o algo
[04:57] <gennio> :S
[04:57] <Seveas> gennio, please stick to english in here.
[04:57] <francis> please help !!! how do i disable the lines that follow when windows r minimized in ubuntu 5.04
[04:57] <displague> gmoore: you are also using debian/ubuntu - so much of the work is already done for you -- and debian/ubuntu have preferences to where these changes should go -- like in /etc/apache2/conf.d or in the mods-blah dires
[04:58] <gennio> Seveas sorry
[04:58] <kissmemore> hello
[04:59] <kissmemore> who call help me
[04:59] <francis> please help !!! how do i disable the lines that follow when windows r minimized in ubuntu 5.04
[04:59] <kissmemore> Help Me
[04:59] <Seveas> francis, Set the gconf key /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources to true with gconf-editor
[04:59] <Seveas> !helpme
[04:59] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:59] <Seveas> ^-- kissmemore
[04:59] <kissmemore> en
[04:59] <Ng> Seveas: it did ask a question ;)
[05:00] <francis> Seveas, let me try that
[05:00] <mojo333> Is anyone here using openbox?
[05:01] <alex__> everytime I reboot my machine I have to change the DNS address in my network configuration
[05:01] <Seveas> Ng, i saw none...
[05:01] <alex__> I use a DHCP server and the DNS address is set to 192.168.0.1
[05:01] <alex__> that makes sense since my router is going to provide the gateway to the dns server
[05:02] <alex__> but still it does not work
[05:02] <Ng> Seveas: ah well
[05:02] <Seveas> alex__, if your router is not a dns server it makes no sense :)
[05:02] <alex__> it has to be in the dns field of my Network configuration
[05:02] <mojo333> ... does anyone use any window managers besides metacity and openbox?
[05:02] <alex__> Seveas: my router provide an dns IP
[05:03] <arphetic> Anyone can help me with my sound support problems?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> mojo333: sure, I use fluxbox (but stand alone, not with gnome)
[05:03] <alex__> so I guess the fact to have the IP of the router in my DNS settings, means "ask the router" that will ask the dns server
[05:03] <mojo333> will it work with gnome?
[05:03] <Seveas> alex__, I've seen nothing but probles using such a setup with my router :)
[05:04] <alex__> what do you mean ?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> mojo333: I don't know - never tried it with gnome
[05:04] <b2s> mojo333: xfce is the best! :)
[05:04] <alex__> I first started to put the dns IP in the ubuntu settings but each time I reboot it get erase and replace by the IP of my router ?
[05:04] <alex__> !
[05:04] <ubotu> alex__: What?
[05:05] <alex__> ubotu: my ISP has provided me with an dns IP address
[05:05] <ubotu> alex__: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:05] <alex__> packet of five ?
[05:05] <srijith> that was funny alex__ and ubotu :)
[05:05] <thoreauputic> alex__: it's a bot (ubotu)
[05:05] <setite> how do i check my cpu speed
[05:05] <setite> cat something
[05:05] <gilv> is it possible to read camera memory card on ubuntu ? (i put the memory card into my computer but nothing happend)
[05:05] <alex__> ah
[05:05] <alex__> of course
[05:05] <lpk> http://tohveli.net/opera.reg
[05:05] <lpk> ARGH
[05:06] <lpk> Sorry! Wrong paste! :(
[05:06] <alex__> so how can I do to avoid resetting the dns in my settings each time I reboot
[05:06] <srijith> gilv, you used a USB card reader to "put the memory card"?
[05:06] <alex__> how can I prevent the daemon to overwrite it
[05:06] <setite> found it
[05:07] <clem_yeats> alex__: your daemon writes in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[05:07] <gilv> srijith: no my computer already has a place (socket?) to put it in
[05:07] <Seveas> alex__, edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient/conf
[05:07] <srijith> alex__, late comer to the conversation, but isn't the dns setting usually filled in by your dhcpclient
[05:07] <osfa> aaarrrgghhh!
[05:07] <Seveas> don't make it request domain-name-server and add a line to append your own
[05:07] <osfa> Has anyone got any pointers (heh) for my touchpad problem?
[05:07] <osfa> whereby mouse-up is interpreted as mouse-click after moving the pointer clickly
[05:07] <osfa> oops
[05:08] <osfa> quickly even :-)
[05:08] <srijith> gilv, cd /media .. do you see any possiblly connected directories?
[05:08] <gilv> srijith: no, only the cdrom
[05:08] <Tycho> I'm trying to compile dosbox, but have trouble setting the PATH variable to my newly compiled SDL libraries. Can someone help me?
[05:08] <srijith> gilv: and /mnt ?
[05:09] <gilv> srijith: neither
[05:09] <srijith> hmm.. do you know for a fact that ubuntu had the drivers for your reader?
[05:09] <srijith> what kind of a machine do you have?
[05:09] <alex__> srijith: yes that is true but ubuntu apparently do not use it
[05:10] <clem_yeats> tycho : did you try ldconfig
[05:10] <WaterSevenUb> can anyone tell me how in GNOME terminal shells we can put a bell (like in Kde) warning that something changed in that shell? I'm using hoary
[05:10] <michele> gilv, open the users and groups admin panel
[05:10] <gilv> srijith: i have an hp pavilion, i don't know if ubuntu has the driver for the card driver
[05:10] <srijith> gilv: the 6in1 reader?
[05:11] <srijith> gilv: as far as I know Ubuntu does not support that reader
[05:11] <clem_yeats> gilv : http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[05:11] <gilv> srijith: i don't know, it's a multi card reader
[05:11] <srijith> alex__: which file btw are you looking at for your dns settings?
[05:12] <francis_> Seveas, hey sorry i got dc my battrey went low
[05:12] <michele> the hal user needs to be added to the plugdev group. it wasn't in my installation
[05:12] <michele> for the card reader I mean
[05:12] <francis_> Seveas, thanks  a lot worked like a charm
[05:12] <Seveas> :)
[05:12] <Seveas> nice
[05:12] <alex__> srijith: I use the GUI but now I will try to write directly in the /etc/resolv.conf
[05:12] <gilv> michele: so you think it should work ?
[05:12] <Tycho> clem_yeats: I just tryed it. Still doesn't work. Maybe something went wrong compilind SDL. Is there a way to verify?
[05:12] <pitti> gilv, michele: oh, you installed a normal system and hal didn't have the correct groups?
[05:12] <francis_> Seveas, could u help me configure the firewall [ firestater ] 
[05:13] <srijith> alex: asking because my dhclient call updates the resolv.conf file properly, nicely
[05:13] <michele> pitti, yes
[05:13] <francis_> Seveas, and how reliable is it
[05:13] <clem_yeats> tycho : did you try installing from the packages ?
[05:13] <michele> gilv, if the reader is a normal mass-storage, yes
[05:13] <pitti> michele: that's odd - how did you install? breezy, hoary upgrade, etc.?
[05:13] <gilv> pitti: i don't understand the question
[05:13] <srijith> alex__, could it be your dhcp server?
[05:13] <Seveas> francis_, what do you need the firewall for? (it's very reliable)
[05:13] <michele> pitti, hoary, from scratch iirc
[05:13] <pitti> gilv: automounting doesn't work for you?
[05:13] <gilv> michele: could you tell me how to make it work ?
[05:13] <gilv> pitti: it should work, can i check it somewhere ?
[05:14] <francis_> Seveas, just to get my machine secure
[05:14] <pitti> gilv: nevermind, I just saw michele talking to you about hal groups
[05:14] <Bryan29556> I got some files in my trash that will not empty using the GUI (using ubuntu, gnome), anyone know the syntax from doing it from the terminal?
[05:14] <alex__> srijith: well it works fine with my two other box
[05:14] <Seveas> francis_, it's secure by default :)
[05:14] <francis_> Seveas, i just tryed it but i blocked all  traffice
[05:14] <Tycho> clem_yeats: Couldn't find a amd64 package
[05:14] <francis_> Seveas, blacked all traffic
[05:15] <srijith> michele: you got the HP laptop card reader to work? Hm.. that has got my attention..
[05:15] <michele> srijith, no. that's an external usb one. don't have hp
[05:15] <Corvus> hi
[05:16] <srijith> michele: gilv was talking of the internal one
[05:16] <clem_yeats> tycho : oh ok.
[05:16] <Seveas> srijith, the sd card readers in HP laptops have no linux drivers
[05:16] <clem_yeats> tycho : so you did : make and make install
[05:16] <srijith> Seveas: so I thought too..
[05:16] <michele> or better
[05:16] <Tycho> clem_yeats: ./configure; make; make install  yes
[05:16] <gilv> srijith, michele: yes, that's an internal multi-card driver
[05:17] <clem_yeats> tycho : where did it put your library files ?
[05:17] <gilv> srijith, michele: most of new laptops have it now
[05:17] <mojo333> can anyone tell me where to change the metacity themes?
[05:17] <srijith> gilv: I think you are out of luck in that.. no linux driver for that.. I am stuck with one too myself on my nc6120
[05:17] <francis_> hey could some help me configure the firewall [ firestater ]  i tried and it blocked all traffice
[05:17] <Tycho> clem_yeats: Somewhere in my home directory
[05:18] <gilv> srijith: do you think it will take time before having it on ubuntu ?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> francis_: did you usethe wizard?
[05:18] <francis_> thoreauputic,  i did
[05:18] <srijith> gilv: I have no idea... am not too optimistic
[05:18] <Tycho> clem_yeats: /home/tycho/Spiele/SDL-1.2.8  to be exact
[05:18] <clem_yeats> tycho : ok that's not the place where you want them.
[05:18] <francis_> thoreauputic, but i did not create any rules for me
[05:18] <thoreauputic> francis_: hmm - works here but I'm using dialup
[05:19] <clem_yeats> tycho : but it doesn't matter for now.
[05:19] <yhonatan> can i get help about gnome in this channel?
[05:19] <yhonatan> (i use ubuntu..)
[05:19] <Tycho> clem_yeats: Ok, where should I put them?
[05:19] <francis_> thoreauputic, me too
[05:19] <clem_yeats> tycho : leave them here for the moment
[05:19] <Tycho> clem_yeats: Ok
[05:19] <francis_> thoreauputic, connected using my GPRS
[05:19] <clem_yeats> tycho : open the file /etc/ld.so.conf
[05:19] <thoreauputic> francis_: wereyou online when you configured it?
[05:19] <francis_> thoreauputic, no
[05:20] <Tycho> clem_yeats: done
[05:20] <clem_yeats> tycho : at the bottom of the file, add the directory : /home/tycho/Spiele/SDL-1.2.8
[05:20] <francis_> thoreauputic, should i try to d it again
[05:20] <yhonatan> can i change  Applications Places System to other words?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> francis_: ah GPRS... I know nothing about that, sorry - but try running it while online
[05:20] <clem_yeats> tycho : that tells it where to find the libs
[05:20] <clem_yeats> tycho : then save the file, and run "ldconfig"
[05:20] <francis_> thoreauputic, gprs is like dial up .. just that its from a cell phone
[05:20] <Tycho> clem_yeats: Done
[05:20] <thoreauputic> francis_: it should recognise the device you are connecte to the internet with
[05:20] <clem_yeats> tycho : that updates the lib path.
[05:21] <thoreauputic> *connected
[05:21] <Tycho> clem_yeats: ./configure has still problems finding them
[05:21] <francis_> thoreauputic, it does
[05:21] <Corvus> anyone can tell me abotu a good proxy server ?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> francis_: well here it configures ppp0 and connection sharing (NAT)
[05:21] <clem_yeats> what's in /home/tycho/Spiele/SDL-1.2.8 ?
[05:22] <francis_> thoreauputic, i am using ppp0 myself
[05:22] <Tycho> clem_yeats: The source (and the compiled libraries I hope)
[05:22] <francis_> thoreauputic, but how do i create the rules
[05:22] <yhonatan> some one?:\
[05:22] <thoreauputic> francis_: most likely you chose some inappropriate option - the defaults are pretty much all you need IIRC
[05:23] <thoreauputic> francis_: why do you need a firewall?
[05:23] <francis_> thoreauputic, could u please show me what ur policyies look like
[05:24] <francis_> thoreauputic, i manage the college network and we r not getting a broadband internet connection
[05:24] <Tycho> clem_yeats: I'm not sure where make install put the libraries or even how linux libraries would look like
[05:24] <francis_> thoreauputic, i want to secure the lan which works on windows
[05:24] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:25] <thoreauputic> francis_: if you are protecting a college lan why don't you use a dedicated box with smoothwall or ipcop?
[05:26] <francis_> thoreauputic, NO MACHINES TO SPARE
[05:26] <francis_> thoreauputic, can i use it on my linux box itself
[05:26] <thoreauputic> francis_: you can install it on an old box froma dumpster ;)
[05:27] <thoreauputic> francis_: smoothie or ipcop needs a dedicated box - but it can be an old one
[05:27] <francis_> thoreauputic, so which one do u sugest smoothwall or the ipcop ??
[05:27] <thoreauputic> francis_: they are very similar (ipcop is a fork of smoothwall)
[05:27] <alex__> it works Thansk Seveas
[05:28] <francis_> thoreauputic, o ok .... thanks for that
[05:28] <thoreauputic> francis_: smoothwall is the original - there's a GPL version
[05:28] <selinium> hi thoreauputic
[05:29] <thoreauputic> francis: you'll need two nics in that box IIRC
[05:29] <selinium> Anyone here any good with bluetooth?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> selinium: greetings :)
[05:29] <Seveas> yw alex__
[05:30] <_rolando> hi
[05:30] <_rolando> do i have to edit some file to get new repositories?
[05:30] <francis_> thoreauputic, hey can i use it on the linux box which i am using to share my internet connection .. no one will be using it
[05:30] <thoreauputic> francis_: not really, unless you don't mind wiping the whole hard drive for it
[05:31] <thoreauputic> francis_: smoothwall uses the whole drive
[05:31] <kemik> !tell _rolando about repositories
[05:32] <thoreauputic> francis_: in other words the smoothie box is *purely* a firewall/router
[05:32] <D-N-A> Hi : yesterday i downloaded ubuntu on my hard drive " i lost 34 gigas of my drive for this damn installion" plz i wanna instal ubuntu on my pc with my windows system , in one drive of linux not the wohole hard drive. plz any one help and guide me to the instalion
[05:33] <Tycho> Does anyone know what to apt-get install if I want the SDL libraries?
[05:33] <dk156_> MoronousExtremis here        Somehow I removed/deleted my workspace icon/chooser on my taskbar! doi! any help - cant seem to find it
[05:33] <francis_> thoreauputic, o ok .. then i think i will stick with the ubuntu firewall an work on configuring it coz there r no free boxes
[05:33] <thoreauputic> francis_: http://www.smoothwall.org/
[05:33] <kemik> Tycho:  apt-cache search sdl
[05:33] <Tycho> kemik: Thanks
[05:34] <kemik> Tycho:  or even "libsdl"
[05:34] <D-N-A> ?
[05:35] <francis_> thoreauputic, hey also wheni connect using putty from windows to the ssh server y do i get a 10 second delay when for it to ask me for the password
[05:35] <thoreauputic> francis_: no idea, sorry - never used putty and I don't have windows here
[05:35] <candyban> Hi guys ...
[05:36] <candyban> I think I'm going nuts ... I can't seem to get "midi" to work on my Linux box
[05:36] <candyban> I have an SB Live ...
[05:36] <thoreauputic> candyban: heheh - it isn't trivial...
[05:36] <Seveas> candyban, installed timidity & freepats?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: that's my line!
[05:36] <thoreauputic> ;)
[05:36] <D-N-A> i wanna select one drive on my hard device to download ubuntu on it
[05:37] <candyban> Seveas: yeah, but that's not "real" midi ...
[05:37] <D-N-A> plzzz help !
[05:37] <francis_> thoreauputic, how long have u been into linux
[05:37] <thoreauputic> francis: about 3 years
[05:37] <francis_> thoreauputic, cool
[05:37] <Seveas> candyban, true...
[05:37] <candyban> thoreauputic: It used to work perfectly on Mandrake 7.1 (with my AWE64) back in the days ... just run sndconfig and everything worked like a charm
[05:38] <Seveas> But it's the limit of my midi knowledge..
[05:38] <francis_> thoreauputic, i have been working with it for abt 6 months now and i must say LiNuX RoCkS
[05:38] <kemik> D-N-A: download the iso, burn to cd... partitiion your drive so you have a free partition for ubuntu. reboot computer from CD and install
[05:38] <candyban> I can't imagine 5 of 6 years later it's impossible to get the same type of card to work ...
[05:38] <thoreauputic> candyban: yeah - I have a crappy onboard sound card here ;)
[05:38] <thoreauputic> candyban: getting midi to work on my card was ... interesting
[05:38] <selinium> candyban: have you got the soundfonts?
[05:38] <candyban> thoreauputic, I have that too ... but I thought (hoped/expected?) to have my SB Live working properly
[05:39] <candyban> selinium: yeah ... I can play it with timidity ... but not with e.g. kmid and other players
[05:39] <D-N-A> i'm already partioned my drive with ntfs for windows i don't want to loss any inform. again just i wanna download it on my drive with windows system which i downloaded before like slackware and lilo
[05:39] <D-N-A> :)
[05:39] <thoreauputic> francis_: welcome to the Free World ;-)
[05:39] <candyban> selinium: I thought the soundcard had it's own sound-fonts?
[05:39] <selinium> using freepats? or have you downloaded some soundfonts?
[05:40] <candyban> selinium: freepats
[05:40] <dk156_> Q:)   where does a noob go to find out where to re-install the "workspace" choose icon in th taskbar?
[05:40] <Seveas> dk156_, rightclick on the taskbar and click on add to taskbar
[05:40] <thoreauputic> dk156: the noob right clicks the panel and chooses the applet from th list ;)
[05:40] <Seveas> and select workspace changer (someting like that) in the window that appears
[05:41] <francis_> thoreauputic, yea men linux is the future .. already branded computers for commercial purposes are coming with linux .. its rules and is amazing  .. the possiblities r endless
[05:41] <selinium> candyban: i beleive the soundfonts are bundled in the drivers. but as the drivers are not proprietory you don't get them.
[05:41] <D-N-A> understand :)
[05:41] <dk156_> Danka!     Zer Gut!
[05:41] <candyban> selinium: but when I try to play a midi it says some devices are not mapped and therefor cannot be heared ... I mean come on ... how come all this stuff worked with 1 simple command for a n00b 5 years ago ... and now (with 5 years of Linux experience under my belt) I can't get it to work in what is considdered today to be the most user-friendly distro?
[05:42] <candyban> This is just surreal (to me)
[05:42] <dk156_> I've got alot 2 learn
[05:42] <Karhuton> dk156, 'to'
[05:42] <thoreauputic> candyban: I agree - ubuntu's midi support is lacking IMO
[05:42] <dk156_> yes sir
[05:43] <selinium> candyban: I think, that midi has fallen of the 'to do' list. It is considered to be a minority subject and therefore not bundled from the begining.  :(
[05:43] <selinium> IMHO
[05:43] <norman> hallo?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> selinium: as in "Midi is *So* 1999" ? <grin>
[05:44] <candyban> selinium: Most websites which use sounds are midi files ... karaoke files are also midi files ...
[05:44] <D-N-A> plz help isn't it a help channel
[05:44] <concept10> MIDI in linux is a pain, you cant expect for the distro to be tailored to it, there are distros out there for it
[05:44] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, more like 1990
[05:44] <francis_> D-N-A, WHATS UP
[05:44] <concept10> he means playing MIDI through a website?
[05:44] <D-N-A> yesterday i downloaded ubuntu on my hard drive " i lost 34 gigas of my drive for this damn installion" plz i wanna instal ubuntu on my pc with my windows system , in one drive of linux not the wohole hard drive. plz any one help and guide me to the instalion
[05:44] <candyban> thoreauputic: doesn't matter if it's 1999 or 1990 ... It used to work and now it doesn't anymore ... I thought Linux was progressing ...
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Karhuton: right - but as candyban says -  still is used a lot
[05:45] <D-N-A> i'm already partioned my drive with ntfs for windows i don't want to loss any inform. again just i wanna download it on my drive with windows system which i downloaded before like slackware and lilo
[05:45] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, Where? It's been a while I last heard a midi play on my computer :)
[05:45] <fatcap> after i install new packages, how do i make the programs and stuff show up in my panel list thing
[05:45] <thoreauputic> candyban: hrm - that was intended as sarcasm....
[05:45] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, Maybe some simple SDL game..
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[05:45] <ficoc> 7join #ubuntu-de
[05:45] <norman> how can i modifiy the size of the buttons (i think they are too big) in ubuntu gnome
[05:45] <clem_yeats> D-N-A : you need to partition your drive.
[05:45] <D-N-A> why i patrtion it
[05:46] <D-N-A> partion it
[05:46] <rolando_> i dont know if you read my q
[05:46] <francis_> D-N-A, u need to whatr ur partitions like
[05:46] <rolando_> what is the root password?
[05:46] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, And nin my opinion, any website that uses MIDI-sounds, isn't really worth visiting :)
[05:46] <Ng> rolando_: there is no root password, use sudo
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Karhuton: we move in different spaces :) have you loked at rosegarden4 ? You can use it to write music
[05:46] <srijith> is there a dummies guide on creating ubuntu packages?
[05:46] <concept10> candyban, just because you cant get something to work doesnt mean linux isnt progressing
[05:46] <francis_> D-N-A, what r ur partitions like
[05:46] <D-N-A> when i downloaded slackware i just slelct the drive and slackware downloaded then it work with my ex.windows system
[05:46] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, Haven't looked into it
[05:46] <fatcap> !root
[05:46] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:46] <selinium> thoreauputic: have you install rosegarden?
[05:47] <candyban> concept10: if it USED to work and now it doesn't, that's a bad sign in my book
[05:47] <D-N-A> it;s all formats by ntfs
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Karhuton: well, it's quite a sophisticated app
[05:47] <thoreauputic> selinium: yes
[05:47] <rolando_> no root that is weird
[05:47] <Ng> srijith: look at debian developer docs, or maybe there's something in the wiki
[05:47] <clem_yeats> D-N-A : you need to buy a linux book...
[05:47] <concept10> candyban, what USED to work
[05:47] <Ng> rolando_: it's good :)
[05:47] <candyban> concept10: midi
[05:47] <francis_> hey does anyone have to link to a site that explains how repositories work
[05:47] <selinium> thoreauputic: i may need to bug you about getting it wotking on my pc! :
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[05:47] <srijith> Ng: thanks
[05:47] <D-N-A> i just need help
[05:47] <clem_yeats> D-N-A : I'm serious.
[05:48] <rolando_> Ng: but does every password work with sudo?
[05:48] <concept10> candyban, what are you _specifically_ talking about.  Sequencing?  Playing midi through a website?
[05:48] <Karhuton> rolando_, type: "sudo passwd" if you need to login as root for some reason
[05:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: sure - but some other time :) It's nearly 2 am here!
[05:48] <clem_yeats> D-N-A : you need to understand what partitions, OSes, filesystems are before you go and install linux.
[05:48] <Ng> rolando_: when you run something with sudo it asks for your password, but only works for people with sudo access
[05:48] <fatcap> its like swimming in a shallow pool
[05:48] <Ng> rolando_: which you can control in the user administration tool in Ubuntu
[05:48] <selinium> thoreauptic: np I remember the last time i tries to get it working it was a bit of a pain.... to say the least!
[05:48] <fatcap> i say you should dive right in
[05:48] <rolando_> Karhuton: thats the command to set the roor pass?
[05:49] <rolando_> ok
[05:49] <candyban> concept10: Yeah, just playing a friggin midi-file ... with the proper device (not some software midi2wav converter which plays on the pcm device)
[05:49] <Karhuton> rolando_, Yeah. It runs "passwd" as root. Running passwd as yourself sets your own password
[05:49] <francis_> hey does anyone have to link to a site that explains how repositories work
[05:49] <thoreauputic> time to leep methinks - night all :)
[05:49] <Karhuton> rolando_, but I still suggest using sudo when ever you can
[05:49] <thoreauputic> *sleeep
[05:49] <Ng> rolando_: unless you really need to, don't set a root password though
[05:49] <D-N-A> i just ask : what i can do to see all my partion in the installion window to select a drive to download the system
[05:49] <candyban> concept10: "kmid" => Could not open /dev/sequencer (although I have snd-emu10k1-synth loaded)
[05:49] <Karhuton> Ng, what about single user mode?
[05:50] <Ng> Karhuton: what about it?
[05:50] <concept10> candyban, maybe you should do some research.
[05:50] <Karhuton> Ng, requires root password
[05:50] <Ng> Karhuton: no it doesn't
[05:50] <francis_> hey does anyone have to link to a site that explains how repositories work
[05:50] <rolando_> ok, now who is right?
[05:50] <concept10> !repositories
[05:50] <ubotu> methinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:50] <Ng> Karhuton: pick the recovery boot menu option, it won't ask anything
[05:50] <Karhuton> Ng, I'd remember it asking for root password or ctrl+d
[05:50] <grogoreo> hi
[05:50] <setite> how do i turn off my laptop mouse
[05:50] <dk156_> the bot speaks
[05:50] <D-N-A> if i repartion my device i will loss every thing and the windows xp system
[05:50] <setite> i disabled it int he xorg and couldnt boot x
[05:50] <Ng> Karhuton: it will probably do that after you set a password or if you boot a regular debian machine, but not a default ubuntu install
[05:51] <thoreauputic> candyban: run timidity in server mode << final hint before I fall asleep
[05:51] <fatcap> how do i make the packages i installed show up in my menu
[05:51] <Karhuton> Ng, how is recovery different?
[05:51] <setite> it makes typing impossible
[05:51] <Ng> Karhuton: it's not :)
[05:51] <setite> in windows you couold set a threshold so your palm didnt get sensed
[05:51] <clem_yeats> D-N-A : you will loose everything anyway eventually if all your files are on the same partition as your windows system.
[05:51] <francis_> concept10, i was wondering what was main , universe ???
[05:51] <Karhuton> Ng, it came up when I used "single" parameter to default kernel in lilo
[05:51] <Karhuton> And I had set the root password prior to that
[05:51] <Ng> Karhuton: that's why
[05:52] <concept10> fatcap, if they didnt add, you could add them yourself with smeg
[05:52] <Ng> you'd set a password
[05:52] <francis_> concept10, wanetd to understand what that stuff is all about
[05:52] <Ng> if you don't, it can't ask you for one :)
[05:52] <Karhuton> Ng, ok
[05:52] <Karhuton> Ng, how is root login disabled, then?
[05:52] <candyban> concept10: I already did ... I'm just shocked at this point that Mandrake 7.1 (1998 !!) back in the days could just run sndconfig and everything worked fine ... now 7 years later, tons of development hours, millions of end-users later, it should be "investigated" how it could be made to work?
[05:52] <grogoreo> I'm trying to run ardour and have installed Jackd with qjackctl to start it. but when it starts it says something about the Alsa sequencer and "could not connect to JACK server as client"
[05:52] <Ng> Karhuton: it's disabled by not having a password :)
[05:52] <Karhuton> Ng, getty uses MD5 of 'null' when you don't enter a password?
[05:53] <D-N-A> why didn't the ubunyo diplays my drives in my hard device it's only said you have 40 giga and this my hole device
[05:53] <francis_> concept10, abd hey whats backports
[05:53] <candyban> thoreauputic: I want it to play on /dev/sequencer ... not /dev/pcm ... kmid (karaoke) and all other applications use /dev/sequencer
[05:53] <clem_yeats> N-D-A: backup your files. Delete everything. Create 4 partitions (ext3, swap, ntfs, fat), put linux in the ext3, windows in the ntfs and your files back in the fat one.
[05:53] <Ng> Karhuton: no idea, probably. It's more likely that root is disabled with the passwd file, I think you can stick a * as the password and disable the user
[05:53] <concept10> francis, they are just different categories for free, non-free, security updates, etc.  Backports is patching stable software with new changes
[05:54] <thoreauputic> candyban: all I know is tht running timidity as a server enables kmid to connect on port 128
[05:54] <setite> no one knows how to disable my synaptics touchpad internal mouse??? or set the sensitivity to like not sense anythign?
[05:54] <Ng> setite: is your other mouse USB or PS2?
[05:55] <concept10> candyban, Im sorry, I dont mess with MIDI in linux, MIDI is tough enough in windows, you should try to goto a site like Planet CCRMA
[05:55] <thoreauputic> candyban: the options are in man timidity - now i really have to sleep: good luck
[05:55] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[05:55] <pmjdebruijn> does anybody here own a Socket A Sempron?
[05:55] <setite> ng usb
[05:55] <hopeng> how to use 5.1 speakers in ubuntu ?
[05:56] <hopeng> how to see startup process ? i want to disable some
[05:56] <Ng> setite: you could put "alias psmouse off" in /etc/modprobe.d/local - that would disable the kernel module that accesses ps2 and touchpad devices, or there are some tools for synaptic pads that might let you control it (that would be better)
[05:56] <setite> oooh where could i get the synaptics tool
[05:56] <Ng> setite: fire up synaptic (the package manager) and search for synaptic
[05:56] <Ng> handy how they have the same name ;)
[05:57] <candyban> concept10: I've never had problems with midi on windows (though I must admit, last time I ran windows was 2001)
[05:57] <setite> haha synaptic in synaptic
[05:57] <setite> yep... ones evil though
[05:57] <alie> hi how to add gcc to my $path
[05:57] <alie> there is not compiler in my path
[05:57] <setite> id rather have that little stick
[05:57] <Ng> alie: install the build-essentials package
[05:57] <reiki_work> wow... been doing a LOT of reading. It *looks* like getting spamassassin worling with evolution is simply a matter of creating a filter in evolution once you have spamassassin installed. That appears to be the *simplest* way to get it working. As a newbie I volunteer to test this when I get home from work! :)
[05:57] <eliphas_> install gcc from synaptic
[05:57] <alie> i did but that is not going in path
[05:58] <Karhuton> Ng, /sbin/sulogin apparently prompts for the passwrod
[05:58] <alie> Ng, i am trying to install apache and getting an error that no compiler found
[05:58] <Ng> Karhuton: ?
[05:58] <Ng> alie: why aren't you installing apache from ubuntu's archives? no need to compile it normally
[05:58] <Karhuton> Ng, it propably checks for non-existent root password
[05:59] <Karhuton> Ng, and doesn't ask if it isn't there
[05:59] <alie> Ng, yes i know but this is part of learning and i need to compile it
[05:59] <Karhuton> It has strings like "no entry for root" and "root password garbled"
[05:59] <setite> hey where did it go
[05:59] <Ng> alie: then install build-essential
[05:59] <reiki_work> I don't want to learn how to assemble the engine of my car. I just want to DRIVE it! :)
[06:00] <alie> oh you mean build-essential is the name of the package ?
[06:00] <Ng> yeah
[06:00] <Karhuton> reiki_work, yeah but there's some issues when you're trying to learn a car after using a bicycle from Microsoft
[06:00] <reiki_work> ok... time for a walk by the lake... bbiab. I *love* this job...
[06:00] <Ng> it is a task package that will pull in things like gcc
[06:00] <francis_> concept10, hey how do i get my a giam chat window to blink when its minimized and i get a message
[06:00] <alie> Ng, thanks for the help man
[06:00] <Ng> np
[06:00] <Karhuton> *learn to drive a car
[06:00] <francis_> hey how do i get my a giam chat window to blink when its minimized and i get a message
[06:00] <deufo> does anyone know if xfce mail checker works with thunderbird?
[06:01] <alie> Ng, thanks for the help ;)
[06:01] <concept10> francis, that is a gnome thing, im not sure.
[06:01] <Ng> alie: :)
[06:01] <reiki_work> Karhuton: valid point... I compiled kernels back when I first tried slackware.. I don't feel the need any more :)  Especially since Ubuntu is designed to make my life easier... not harder
[06:01] <Karhuton> deufo, xfce mail checker propably uses POP/IMAP or local mail account
[06:01] <deufo> Karhuton, i thought it checks a directory
[06:02] <reiki_work> ok... walk time
[06:02] <Karhuton> deufo, it has nothing to do with Thunderbird.
[06:02] <deufo> Karhuton, then how does xfce mail checker work?
[06:02] <Karhuton> deufo, if you use unix mail with fetchmail, then it should work
[06:02] <Bags> Noob needing help installing Opera and then Java for it. Any takers?
[06:02] <deufo> Karhuton, wat if i connect to a remote server
[06:03] <Karhuton> deufo, But if you use Thunderbird to connect your ISP's POP/IMAP server, forget the mail checker if ti doesn't support POP/IMAP
[06:03] <deufo> Karhuton, thanks
[06:03] <l0s3rk1d> why ubuntu?
[06:03] <concept10> !tell Bags about Java
[06:03] <selinium> any bluetooth users out there?
[06:04] <highvoltage> selinium: i'm sure there are.
[06:04] <concept10> Bags, to intstall Opera, download the package and use dpkg -i operapackagename
[06:04] <l0s3rk1d> is ubuntu portage?
[06:06] <setite> hey
[06:06] <setite> i installed the synaptics app... and told it to turn off the touchpad
[06:06] <setite> but its still on
[06:06] <setite> need to restart you think?
[06:06] <user1_> modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-6-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:07] <user1_> anyone seen and fixed this error?
[06:07] <chrissturm> user1, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:08] <user1_> chrissturm: its from a root terminal
[06:08] <concept10> candyban, look at this page http://demudi.agnula.org/
[06:08] <Bags> Um...
[06:09] <concept10> user1, what do you get whe trying to use sudo?
[06:09] <tombs> hi ppl
[06:10] <user1_> concept10: same error
[06:10] <concept10> user1_, did you compile this yourself?  Looks like you have the wrong version.
[06:11] <agraupe> I'm having some trouble with unmet dependencies with apt-get.  I installed a version of elinks not in the repository, and it caused a whole bunch of problems.  dependencies weren't met, but it installed anyway, and now apt-get refuses to install anything.  it suggests running "apt-get -f install", but that wants to remove some important sounding packages like ubuntu-base.  is there any way I can fix it?
[06:11] <grogoreo> what do i have to shutdown to use Jackd, using ALSA
[06:11] <user1_> concept10: I did compile this myself, which version should I have? I'm using ndiswrapper 1.2
[06:11] <concept10> user1_, I would try 1.1 because I know it works.
[06:12] <oferet> hello
[06:12] <oferet> I gots questions
[06:12] <vortec_> hi, i just upgraded from hoary to breezy, and after a reboot xorg wouldn't start. my gfx card is "Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller" (says lspci). any idea what i could do?
[06:13] <darkheart> vortec_ try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server or something like that.
[06:13] <concept10> agraupe, I believe you may do that without any problem, I think ubuntu-base metapackage, post your output somewhere
[06:13] <agraupe> concept10: I will post it in #flood
[06:13] <concept10> !paste
[06:13] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:13] <concept10> there is bette
[06:15] <w0rmz> how do i check daemon status in ubuntu?
[06:16] <sandino> hello all
[06:16] <w0rmz> chkconfig ?
[06:17] <agraupe> concept10: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1367
[06:18] <w0rmz> anyobdy ?
[06:18] <alex__> can someone tell me something about the esd sound  ? I have tried to installed and run pd but it does not start (Segmentation fault), on the pd mailing list, it is question of a ubuntu bug related to the esd sound
[06:18] <alex__> what is the esd sound ?
[06:19] <agraupe> concept10: any ideas?
[06:20] <oferet> I am installing Ubuntu, as we speak. I've tried to install it a couple of times already however, unsuccessfully. So I am going to try to post questions here for the installation process
[06:20] <oferet> there should be someone who'd help right ?!
[06:21] <oferet> first question. I have a router through which my whole network is connected. But Ubuntu says that the network is probably not using DHCP protocol, while I know it does
[06:21] <oferet> suggestions ?
[06:22] <zAo^> tried "sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[06:22] <oferet> I do ont know that is
[06:22] <oferet> I am newbie sort a speak
[06:22] <pfp> zAo^: you probably wont need sudo on the installation system
[06:22] <zAo^> it tries to get an IP by DHCP
[06:23] <oferet> yep
[06:23] <oferet> but it cannot find it
[06:23] <concept10> agraupe, is that apt-get install -f?
[06:23] <reiki_work> oferet: check your router and see if it is only allowing a limited range of IPs for dhcp configuration. I'm a newbie too and using a LinkSys router my Ubuntu install was configured correctly by dhcp
[06:23] <clem_yeats> dhcp... pfff.
[06:23] <brg> With a very large mp3 collection, rhythmbox tend to be very very slow when searching and starting up. Any other players doing better?
[06:23] <sambagirl> oferet i had the same problem.
[06:24] <Bags> concept10, Well, I did that. Installed the package.
[06:24] <Bags> Now what?
[06:24] <Bags> concept10, Now what?
[06:24] <oferet> the router I have is not linsys
[06:24] <oferet> linksys is definatly better I have a cheap costco router
[06:24] <sambagirl> reboot the router and check connections on all devices thru the router.
[06:24] <pfp> oferet: have you confirmed that your network card works, on ubuntu, eg. with a statical ip
[06:24] <oferet> that might be the reason, so what is the way to go around it
[06:24] <reiki_work> oferet: and your router is the dhcp server?
[06:24] <raDeon> LINKSYS IS TRASH!
[06:24] <oferet> ok how do I do that ?
[06:24] <oferet> yes
[06:24] <concept10> Bags, installed which package?
[06:25] <oferet> I disagree Linksys works very well
[06:25] <sandino> ofehe  hey just redo the network part again in the install
[06:25] <sandino> chose maybe eth1
[06:25] <oferet> I tried it on many different environments
[06:25] <raDeon> yeah it works well
[06:25] <raDeon> but it's trash
[06:25] <sambagirl> then when i did a re-install it recognized the dhcp config and it worked fine,.
[06:25] <jschroed> Linksys == Cisco; Cicso runs the internet
[06:25] <clem_yeats> and your nick is radeon ??
[06:25] <clem_yeats> my radeon "is" trash.. :))
[06:25] <Bags> concept10, The Opera Debian package
[06:25] <oferet> ok I'lltry to redo it
[06:25] <clem_yeats> I don't know about linksys though
[06:26] <oferet> sec
[06:26] <sambagirl> that is what i did and it loaded properly the second timre around.
[06:26] <concept10> does it show up in your menu?
[06:26] <raDeon> clem_yeats i don't use ATI cards
[06:26] <w0rmz> ubuntu dont has "service" program ?
[06:26] <reiki_work> isn't there a way in the installer to make it do static rather than dhcp? I thought there was
[06:26] <raDeon> clem_yeats radeon is a latin stem
[06:26] <clem_yeats> me neither.. they use me ! :))
[06:26] <sambagirl> be sure and reboot the router
[06:26] <w0rmz> or script ?
[06:26] <raDeon> until ATI screwed it up for me
[06:26] <pfp> oferet: it asks you for a statical ip after telling you that dhcp failed
[06:26] <Tycho> I want to rename all files in a directory from *;1 to * (cut the ";1"). Can someone help me with the Perl command in rename?
[06:26] <clem_yeats> radeon : oh ok.
[06:26] <sandino> hey where can i get a depository of programs for ubuntu ?
[06:27] <oferet> do yoi mean retry right now, or after the installation is done ?
[06:27] <sandino> im looking for nicotine
[06:27] <sandino> oferet now
[06:27] <clem_yeats> Tycho yes in pv
[06:27] <oferet> k
[06:27] <sandino> theres GO BACK
[06:27] <sambagirl> restart the installation do a fresh install.
[06:27] <sambagirl> it only takes a short time.
[06:28] <pfp> remember, no drug talk sandino ;)
[06:28] <raDeon> drugs are cool,
[06:28] <bretzel> hello all, I am curious to know how is the status of usplash or other way for Linux Framebuffer boot ?
[06:28] <sandino> yeah nicoinseek..e is soul
[06:28] <sandino> ooops
[06:29] <Bags> Drugs are bad, m'kay?
[06:29] <Moth> it did notwork
[06:29] <raDeon> bretzel discontinued.
[06:29] <Moth> someone said that it might be my network
[06:29] <raDeon> Bags yes
[06:29] <Moth> network card that is
[06:29] <chrissturm> bretzel, breezy comes with usplash
[06:29] <Moth> where can I find out if it is compatible with Ubuntu ?
[06:29] <bretzel> chrissturm: Thus no hopes to have it on hoary ?
[06:30] <pfp> Moth: are you in the installer or have you installed ubuntu already
[06:30] <alex__>  does anyone know what is esd ?
[06:30] <Moth> oh shit
[06:30] <Moth> it changed my nick
[06:30] <Moth> I am in the installed
[06:30] <w0rmz> alex__,google  "what is esd"
[06:30] <chrissturm> bretzel, it looks very unpolished, you dont want to run it now :)
[06:31] <bretzel> alex__: Enlightenment Sound Service Deamon ... or thing like it
[06:31] <l0s3rk1d> is ubuntu portage?
[06:31] <Moth> sorry I am in the installer
[06:31] <alex__> ok
[06:32] <Bags> concept10, So I downloaded the Opera Debian PPC Package and used dpkg -i to set it up.
[06:32] <pfp> Moth: press alt-f2, then type "dmesg | grep eth", that should list your net cards  (alt-f1 to get back)
[06:32] <bretzel> chrissturm: thanks for the hint :-) - Is it really complicated to have Cnsoles in fb on haory ?
[06:32] <concept10> Bags, does it show up in your menu?
[06:32] <Bags> concept10, It's all there, now how do I use it?
[06:32] <bretzel> chrissturm: read Consoles -- typo
[06:32] <Bags> concept10, No...
[06:33] <concept10> Bags, type locate opera in te terminal
[06:33] <Moth> sambagirl, I tried to reboot my router, it did not help
[06:33] <bretzel> I discovered that no matter the distro, nvidia 3d accel drivers screwe up FB consoles...
[06:33] <chrissturm> bretzel, i dunno. i just installed usplash and looked at it :)
[06:34] <Bags> concept10, It doesn't come up...
[06:34] <Bags> concept10, I think that it may be where I downloaded it.
[06:34] <Bags> concept10, It ended up in /tmp/
[06:34] <arphetic> YES
[06:34] <arphetic> I CAN GAME
[06:34] <arphetic> W)))
[06:34] <bretzel> BTW: SuSE (9.3) have a really NICE Grub in FB mode... not talking about their console1 background
[06:35] <Bags> concept10, should that matter?
[06:35] <Bags> concept10, I did the installtion from the /tmp directory.
[06:35] <stratovarius> hey hi all
[06:35] <bretzel> Other ubuntu users managed to get Boot and consoles in FB ?
[06:36] <new15> advice w/ network problem would be helpful
[06:36] <pfp> new15: 19:32 < pfp> Moth: press alt-f2, then type "dmesg | grep eth", that should list your net cards  (alt-f1 to get  back)
[06:36] <stratovarius> who does tell me the address of some repositories?
[06:36] <pfp> !repositories
[06:37] <ubotu> I guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:37] <bretzel> I can't find the subject in Ubuntu Wiki ... If I enter in Kernel configs to enable fb, I think I am going into a nightmare journey
[06:37] <stratovarius> !repositories
[06:37] <concept10> Bags, type opera in the terminal it should start, Im trying to find where it installs at
[06:37] <agraupe_> can someon quickly tell me what version of libidn11 is installed by default by hoary?
[06:37] <selinium> Hi i am looking for someone who has set up bluetooth...
[06:37] <Bags> concept10, Nope.
[06:38] <Bags> concept10, opera: cannot connect to X server
[06:39] <pfp> agraupe_: 0.5.2-3
[06:39] <gmoore> i'm trying to set up pureftpd. i want to be able to give different users different permissions. for example john can list and upload to /ftp/Incoming but not go up to /ftp/. steve can list and download from /ftp/Files/ but not go to /ftp/. jack can go anywhere in /ftp and modify anything. do i do that through chmod permissions?
[06:39] <concept10> Bags, I cant help you on that one.
[06:40] <Bags> concept10, Ok. Thanks anyhoo.
[06:40] <Bags> concept10, I appreciate you trying.
[06:40] <Bags> concept10, I think it's a PPC thing... (Boring...)
[06:40] <Sputn1k> After ubuntu 5.04-hoary update to 5.10-breezy, x's dont work, and official nvidia driver too, what i should do?
[06:41] <c3ltic> hello
[06:41] <kemik> why isit impossible to edit the ID3 tags in Rythmbox?
[06:41] <kemik> i can see the fields and all, but no change them
[06:41] <c3ltic> can anyone help me?
[06:41] <concept10> Bags, you dont like firefox?
[06:41] <w0rmz> how do i check which daemons are running at startup ?
[06:42] <samu> kemik, because the version of rhythmbox that comes with hoary is really old and crap
[06:42] <benjamin1254> c3ltic whats up?
[06:42] <Sputn1k> help me plz.....
[06:42] <plagerism> Can I please use Breezy now??
[06:42] <c3ltic> i'm having some problems
[06:42] <concept10> kemik, use easytag
[06:42] <benjamin1254> explain
[06:42] <VaroXz> can anyone help me, my soundcard won't work
[06:42] <plagerism> How buggy is breezy??
[06:42] <kemik> samu:  and it's not backported?
[06:42] <samu> i dont know
[06:42] <kemik> concept10:  will look into that.. need to re-tag all my mp3s i think
[06:42] <concept10> plagerism, download the like cd and find out
[06:43] <samu> all i know is i cant update it automagically
[06:43] <plagerism> I did download the livecd, looked okay to me
[06:43] <benjamin1254> c3ltic brb ok sir
[06:43] <agraupe_> I've come to the conclusion that I need to uninstall, then reinstall an earlier version, of libidn11.  I can't remove it due to dependancies, according to dpkg.  how can I force its removal?
[06:43] <c3ltic> i just installed ubuntu... and it asked username and password etc... so it installed all... no it's time to log in but doesn't accept my user and pass... how can i get inside or change my account?
[06:43] <plagerism> can I upgrade to breezy now?? Is development frozen??
[06:43] <concept10> I didnt see any real changes for me to install once its released.
[06:43] <VaroXz> sorry about this stupid question but i started using linux yesterday... where do i get modules from?
[06:43] <kemik> samu:  you've compiled a new version yourself then ?
[06:43] <samu> kemik, i recommend switching to windows or osX so you can use itunes :)
[06:43] <samu> kemik, no i just remain pissed off
[06:44] <Sputn1k> After ubuntu 5.04-hoary update to 5.10-breezy, x's dont work, and official nvidia driver too, what i should do?
[06:44] <plagerism> What version of Xorg is in Breezy??
[06:44] <kemik> samu:  tssk :P
[06:45] <w0rmz> fedora is better than ubuntu in server administration
[06:45] <w0rmz> huh
[06:45] <samu> its the main application thats holding me back from putting linux on the laptop too
[06:45] <concept10> !info xorg
[06:45] <bretzel> w0rmz: I agree but Ubuntu is far better for Linux multi-media stuff
[06:45] <concept10> plagerism, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xorg&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all&page=1&number=all
[06:46] <akk> What's the best movie player to play .avi video from a digital camera?
[06:46] <kemik> i think ubuntu is mainly geared for the Desktop
[06:46] <akk> Nothing I've tried seem to read it.
[06:46] <no_dammagE> hi, can someone please help me to setup lilo please? My machine is not supported by GRUB. I'm currently sitting in a booted knoppix ...
[06:46] <kemik> akk:  VLC or mplayer
[06:46] <plagerism> oh nice, they finally got a packages.ubuntu
[06:46] <H0lyD4wg> is there a way to switch the active keyboard layout from the command line?
[06:46] <w0rmz> bretzel, you are rite
[06:46] <kemik> akk:  vlc is probably the best mediaplayer there is... for all OS's
[06:46] <akk> kemik: mplayer doesn't seem to handle it -- says it's using ffmpeg's libavcodec codec family but then it doesn't play.
[06:47] <akk> "The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec."
[06:47] <concept10> samu, you may use itunes in linux with crossover office.
[06:47] <agraupe_> is there a place i can download a .deb of the original hoary version of libidn11?
[06:47] <concept10> !info qoudlibet
[06:48] <c3ltic> can anyone say how to make new account when i can't log in with one i registered during install
[06:48] <new15> after I tried dmesg | grep eth
[06:48] <concept10> !info quodlibet
[06:48] <new15> I got this result...
[06:48] <new15> eth0: Via Rhine at 0xde00, 00:50:ba:bc:b2:1d, IRQ 11
[06:48] <new15> eth0: MII PHY found at address 8, status 0x7809 advertising 05e1 Link 000.
[06:48] <new15> eth0: link down
[06:48] <new15> eth0: link down
[06:48] <new15> what does it mean ?
[06:48] <bretzel> w0rmz: I tell you: I am using Ubuntu with Kubuntu-Desktop for my KDE stuff needs ( KDevelop/QT/amaroK etc..) and I find Ubuntu the best for the mix of Gnome and KDE! No other distros have both Gnome and KDE well integrated...
[06:48] <chrissturm> new15, you probably have no cable plugged in
[06:48] <pfp> new15: most probably your network cable is not connected
[06:49] <VaroXz> can anyone tell me where to get modules from... i'm VERY newbie
[06:49] <pfp> new15: btw, on the channel please
[06:49] <new15> I am sure it is... I'll make sure it is workin
[06:49] <new15> sec
[06:49] <agraupe_> is there a place i can download a .deb of the original hoary version of libidn11?
[06:49] <akk> kemik: Nope, vlc doesn't read the avi either.
[06:49] <concept10> you guys should try this music player: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Screenshots
[06:50] <pfp> new15: or if you have BNC and RJ-45, the card may be listening on the wrong plug
[06:50] <bretzel> w0rmz: I am telling you that because I did try FC4, SuSE9.3PRO and returned to Ubuntu 2 days ago because it is the only distro that meets my needs...
[06:50] <w0rmz> bretzel, but what is the purpose of using that if windows is better for multi media stuff
[06:50] <concept10> VaroXz, what modules are you talking about
[06:50] <Axeman> Hi
[06:50] <kemik> akk:  that's weird... between mplayer and vlc ther's not much they cant handle
[06:50] <Axeman> Need some help regarding ubuntu live
[06:50] <VaroXz> i need the snd-maestro3 module for my soundcard
[06:50] <jschroed> http://www.polarhome.com/cgi-bin/chat/irc.cgi I love irc through firewalls
[06:50] <Axeman> wondering if anyone would be good enough to point me
[06:50] <kemik> w0rmz:  linux is free, windows is not ?
[06:50] <bretzel> w0rmz: Windows ??? ( lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to get what Linux can give)
[06:50] <Axeman> in the right direction
[06:50] <gmoore> anyone know of an easy to set up ftp server  where i can have a bunch of non-system users with different permissions? ie steve can access /ftproot/ and only upload while john can access the same directory and only download
[06:51] <kemik> gmoore:  pureftpd
[06:51] <H0lyD4wg> (eg. if i did "setxkbmap -layout us,il", is there a program i can run to switch to the second layout (il) ? )
[06:51] <w0rmz> hehe
[06:51] <c3ltic> can anyone help me?
[06:51] <w0rmz> pirated windows
[06:51] <Axeman> I have aproblem booting from the ubuntu PPC CD with my iMac g5
[06:51] <w0rmz> most of users using pirated one
[06:51] <w0rmz> hehe
[06:51] <w0rmz> its free
[06:51] <jschroed> bretzel: Linux support is not free. Actually, Linux support is more expensive because their is a higher demand of Linux professionals
[06:51] <bretzel> w0rmz: Just for Development $1500 ( canadian ) to get basic VS7.x
[06:51] <pfp> gmoore: it's possible with proftpd's configuration too
[06:52] <eno> what does ubuntu 5.10 colony 3 mean?  (the colony part)
[06:52] <agraupe_> I need to downgrade libidn11, but I can't find a package of the version that came with hoary, and I don't have the install cd with me, is there anything I can do?
[06:52] <bretzel> jschroed: Worst in Windows world: You pay the licenses lots of $$$ and try to get support!!!!
[06:52] <gmoore> kemik: i'm trying with pureftpd but i can't figure out virtual users and such :( would you mind giving me a hand if you're not busy
[06:52] <pfp> c3ltic: you can reset your password when you boot to recovery mode
[06:53] <jschroed> bretzel: How many computers have you supported in a Windows or Linux environment?
[06:53] <w0rmz> im looking for networking stuff in linux
[06:53] <concept10> VaroXz, its probably already on your system
[06:53] <w0rmz> but it seems redhat or fedora is the best
[06:53] <kemik> gmoore:  ive not used it myself, just know it support non-system users
[06:53] <jschroed> If the answer is < 1000, you dont know what youre talking about
[06:53] <Axeman> Can anyone help me with problems booting from ubuntu live PPC on an iMac G5? - it gets to the hardware detection, then has problems detectin g the cdrom drive and askm me to choose manually.  It then  wont let me go any further
[06:53] <concept10> VaroXz, type locate snd-maestro
[06:53] <w0rmz> but ... ubuntu is the best for multi media stuffs
[06:53] <jschroed> Ubuntu and Fedora are both excellent for Desktop Linux
[06:53] <c3ltic> pfp ... when booting to recovery mode... what does it do? and how
[06:53] <concept10> VaroXz, did you see it?
[06:54] <kemik> w0rmz:  what sort of "networking" are you looking for ?
[06:54] <Axeman> Anyone?
[06:54] <w0rmz> so i ve to make decision what is my specification goes to
[06:54] <VaroXz> wait a sec
[06:54] <jschroed> Ubuntu has better software installation via synaptic where fedora has better security and configuration tools
[06:54] <w0rmz> kemik, adminstration tasks
[06:54] <pfp> c3ltic: from the grub (=boot) menu
[06:54] <oferet> you were right, I did not connect teh network cable <- boy do I feel stupid
[06:55] <oferet> but at this point, even though I have it connected I get the same response
[06:55] <bretzel> Not me but in my employer's net staff: Linux is free, they have the knowledges for linux servers, so they get paid normal salaries for their work. If they were Microsoft, the employer must pay the licenses and support...
[06:55] <w0rmz> but till now im clueless of what is the main purpose of using linux
[06:55] <w0rmz> hehe
[06:55] <pfp> c3ltic: then type 'passwd c3ltic' (assuming that's your user id), then boot w/ 'shutdown -r now'
[06:55] <Frafra> hi all
[06:55] <jschroed> Bretzel, /me is a Unix admin
[06:55] <pfp> w0rmz: freedom!
[06:55] <oferet> it seems that my card is not communicating with my router
[06:55] <kemik> w0rmz:  what do you mean with "administration tasks" ?
[06:55] <oferet> how could that be changed  ?
[06:56] <kemik> oferet:  dhclient -i eth0
[06:56] <oferet> my router indicates that it is connected to a network card, but it seems that my network card is not doing it
[06:56] <w0rmz> kemik, that makes me easier to handle the task
[06:56] <oferet> ok I'll try that now
[06:56] <Frafra> if I use 'sudo pon dsl-provider' it works, but if I do 'gksudo pon dsl-provider' it doesn't work. It says: "...The file /etc/ppp/peers/'dsl-provider' does not exist..."
[06:56] <c3ltic> pfp... ok... going to try
[06:56] <bretzel> jschroed: Cool! :-) So you know that XP Pro stations in Windows servers per licenses are fuc%$#^%$ expensive...
[06:56] <kemik> w0rmz:  which task?!
[06:56] <w0rmz> pfp, freedom isnt my main point as im still hunting for a job :(
[06:57] <w0rmz> kemik, as i have asked before
[06:57] <jschroed> bretzel: Yes I do, and I also know that the majority of enterprise users still use Win2k on the desktop
[06:57] <agraupe_> is there any way to browse available packages with a web browser (ie at archive.ubuntu.com) and download them?
[06:57] <kemik> w0rmz:  i missed it :/
[06:57] <w0rmz> for an example
[06:57] <concept10> agraupe_, yes
[06:57] <oferet> -i is not an option
[06:57] <jschroed> There is no real reason to upgrade to XP other than prettier graphics and slower bling
[06:57] <w0rmz> what is the command to know daemon status
[06:57] <concept10> agraupe_, do you use firefox?
[06:57] <bretzel> Yes, sorry Win2K -- the same tho...
[06:57] <pfp> w0rmz: i see :( ... from my experience, knowing linux helps with that :)
[06:58] <w0rmz> as chkconfig in fedora or redhat
[06:58] <kemik> w0rmz:  ps aux | grep "name of daemon"
[06:58] <Frafra> who can help me?
[06:58] <agraupe_> concept10: yes
[06:58] <jschroed> w0rmz: /etc/init.d/httpd status
[06:58] <jschroed> w0rms: and I think you mean the service command on redhat or fedora
[06:58] <jschroed> w0rms: On fedora service httpd status will tell you the status of the web server daemon
[06:58] <w0rmz> jschroed, u are rite
[06:59] <oferet> kemik dhclient -i eth0 did not work
[06:59] <bretzel> Actually I am working in a tech support in a call center and it is Win2K: but the cie is really big and rich... so they don't care about Linux...
[06:59] <oferet> it seems that -i is not an option
[06:59] <w0rmz> and it tells u what service are running in what level
[06:59] <agraupe_> concept10: what is the correct site?  I can't find the actual packages at archive.ubuntu.com
[06:59] <kemik> oferet:  dhclient eth0 then
[06:59] <jschroed> w0rmz: ubuntu is debian based, there is no concept of runlevels like in other modern distros
[06:59] <concept10> agraupe_, go here and add the firefox search engine http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&submitform=Find+search+plugins
[07:00] <concept10> Everyone else should add that also
[07:00] <concept10> to search packages from firefox
[07:00] <pfp> oferet: hmm isn't there an option/button/menu to retry the dhcp thing, in the installer?
[07:00] <oferet> kemik, here is the output: Bind socket to interface: No suc hdevice
[07:00] <oferet> exiting.
[07:00] <w0rmz> jschroed, ahhh.... sorry for that question....im fedora user before
[07:00] <w0rmz> just trying to start usqing ubuntu
[07:00] <kemik> oferet:  do a "ifconfig"
[07:00] <w0rmz> i ve no debian based
[07:00] <agraupe_> concept10: that's nice... maybe should that be added to the default ubuntu firefox package?
[07:01] <oferet> pfp, yes there is, but it does not detect the DHCP server even though its workin
[07:01] <pfp> oh
[07:01] <concept10> agraupe_, yeah, conact the developers, it comes with the debian pkg search
[07:01] <benjamin1254> debian feels better... o feel that it flows better as time goes on and they even ship free cds of there distro which is a pluss i ordered 10 all free
[07:01] <concept10> agraupe_, I was going to write it but it was there already
[07:01] <oferet> pfp, I can quote the response: Your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol. Alternatively, the DHCP server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly.
[07:02] <agraupe_> concept10: thanks for the help
[07:02] <oferet> what is the command parallel to ipconfig in linux
[07:03] <pfp> "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr ls"
[07:03] <Axeman> oh well
[07:03] <Axeman> looks like noone can help me
[07:03] <Axeman> Cheers anyway
[07:03] <Axeman> bye
[07:03] <neighborlee> wait
[07:03] <neighborlee> ohwell
[07:04] <benjamin1254> poor axeman
[07:05] <oferet> it does not provide me with my ip
[07:05] <oferet> wait
[07:05] <pfp> poor ppc users :/
[07:05] <oferet> how do I release and renew ?
[07:05] <benjamin1254> u know his name sure maes u wonder
[07:05] <benjamin1254> makes*
[07:05] <concept10> yours too..
[07:05] <neighborlee> lol
[07:05] <Frafra> I've a problem. If I use 'sudo pon dsl-provider' it works, but if I do 'gksudo pon dsl-provider' it doesn't work. It says: "...The file /etc/ppp/peers/'dsl-provider' does not exist...". Who can help me?
[07:06] <oferet> anyone ?
[07:06] <concept10> Frafra, try gksuexec
[07:06] <no_dammagE> can someone please help me to set up lilo?
[07:07] <pfp> oferet: dhclient -r ; dhclient eth0
[07:07] <concept10> oferet, you need your ip address?
[07:07] <no_dammagE> i don't know why it fails, GRUB doesn't support my machine ...
[07:07] <Frafra> concept10: thx
[07:07] <oferet> I thinki it works
[07:07] <oferet> sec
[07:07] <MAPD> hi
[07:07] <regebro> Helo! I just upgraded from Warty to Hoary, and now, when a windows wants something it no longer pops to the front... instead it just flashes briefly, which I never notice... Can I change this?
[07:07] <concept10> no_dammagE, grub runs on everything from toasters to mainframes, what are you talking about?
[07:08] <Seveas> \annoncement{ The Ubuntu pastebin now has a search function too :)) }
[07:08] <concept10> Frafra, did that work?
[07:08] <no_dammagE> well, it tells me Error 18 and up to now I couldn't go around it
[07:08] <concept10> hmmm, the ubiquitous error 18
[07:08] <no_dammagE> Error 18 was that my HDD wasn't detected corretly as far as I remember
[07:08] <no_dammagE> HDD is running in LBA32 mode
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> sounds like an old bios issue.
[07:08] <no_dammagE> it is an old 8GB IDEHDD
[07:09] <no_dammagE> I doubt I'll be able to upgrade it
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> 8gb? i got more porn then that...
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:09] <no_dammagE> lol
[07:09] <benjamin1254> lmfao
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> they got usb thumb drives that size!
[07:09] <Frafra> concept10: I want somethink like an icon who start a program that need to be used from root
[07:09] <oferet> concept10, I do not exactly need that, what I need is to set up my network connection. I am in the installer phase of ubuntu and the network just won't work
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> I just put together a 200gb external USB hd. :P
[07:09] <Frafra> concept10: something like gksudo [commando] 
[07:09] <oferet> it says that I have no DHCP server, while I know I do
[07:09] <no_dammagE> the point is that LILO can boot it and I'm sitting currently in Knoppix trying to install it
[07:09] <oferet> btw it did not work
[07:10] <concept10> Frafra, there is one
[07:10] <benjamin1254> really i put together a 400gb usb 2.0 HDD
[07:10] <no_dammagE> the result is: /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found
[07:10] <oferet> same response -> no response from the DHCP server
[07:10] <no_dammagE> Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?
[07:10] <no_dammagE> blah blah
[07:10] <Frafra> concept10: but it doesn't works
[07:10] <oferet> what is I skip the network set up for now... is that a serious problem ?
[07:10] <oferet> if*
[07:10] <concept10> Frafra, Appliations > System Tools > Run as different user
[07:11] <no_dammagE> btw, BIOS is really old - revision from 1999
[07:11] <Frafra> concept10: if I do: "gksudo [program]  [opt] " it's equal to "program 'option'"
[07:11] <jschroed> regebro: This is part of gnome 2.10s new focus stealing prevention code
[07:11] <jschroed> I dont think you can change that
[07:11] <benjamin1254> can ne one help me format an old mac 5500/225 seris power mac?
[07:11] <regebro> Meh! :-/
[07:11] <Tycho> Whats the parameter for ls if I want it to list just directories?
[07:11] <pfp> oferet: you can still install, you just wont get the latest updates at the same time
[07:11] <jschroed> Tycho -d
[07:11] <regebro> jschroed: OK, at least I can google on that and see if I can change it.
[07:12] <oferet> pfp, but if I'll install later I would be able to get all the updates? correct
[07:12] <Tycho> jschroed: -d gets me just "."
[07:12] <benjamin1254> could i use a new blah hard drie and do it that way instead?
[07:12] <benjamin1254> BLANK*
[07:12] <pfp> oferet: yes
[07:12] <Frafra> concept10: ok, but I want that it goes in auto, only request root's password
[07:13] <no_dammagE> anyone?
[07:13] <w0rmz> mypapit, welcome user from malaysia
[07:13] <w0rmz> huhu
[07:13] <mypapit> w0rmz: thank you
[07:13] <mypapit> w0rmz: i just gotten around the apt-get..
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  trying to install lilo from a live cd?
[07:13] <concept10> Frafra, create a launcher
[07:13] <no_dammagE> yes
[07:13] <w0rmz> mypapit, malay?
[07:13] <mypapit> w0rmz: yes
[07:13] <w0rmz> cakap melayu dah la
[07:13] <w0rmz> ekeke
[07:14] <mypapit> w0rmz: nnt ada org lain bengang lak
[07:14] <w0rmz> tegeliat jari aku dok taip
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  may want to check the ubuntu wikis' there a few things you got to do..
[07:14] <mypapit> w0rmz: keke
[07:14] <MAPD> malay girls are nice!!!
[07:14] <w0rmz> ok
[07:14] <w0rmz> kita speaking
[07:14] <mypapit> w0rmz: diorang suh aku cakap english.. hehe
[07:14] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: ok, doing ...
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  you basicially mount your system somewhere, then chroot to it. and install/run lilo.
[07:14] <w0rmz> MAPD, nice?
[07:14] <w0rmz> mypapit, cakap la english broken
[07:14] <oferet> pfp, I did it manually, but I do ont know if it worked
[07:14] <Frafra> concept10: yes, but "gksuexec [program]  [option] " display the same result of "gksuexec"
[07:14] <w0rmz> janji dorang paham dah
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  BUT theres a few other got-yas to look out for. Like how /proc and /dev got to be done on the chrooted system
[07:15] <MAPD> w0rmz yes arent they?
[07:15] <MAPD> !pastebin
[07:15] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:15] <concept10> Frafra, what are you trying to run as root?
[07:15] <mypapit> w0rmz: ko pakai ubuntu gak ke? aku pakai debian je.. aku pakai ubuntu rasa cam newbie lak.. hehe
[07:15] <w0rmz> MAPD, why did u say so
[07:15] <Grumbly> can someone help me out?  I'm trying to find 2 things, but I am not sure where to start.  the 1st, most important is a Call tracking/Support system Ala CRM.  the second is a PBX logger/monitor.
[07:15] <w0rmz> mypapit, sama ja...tadak beza pon
[07:15] <mypapit> w0rmz: pc sebelah aku pakai ubuntu la.. main test2 install.. pc adik aku..
[07:15] <w0rmz> mypapit, just a little bit diff
[07:15] <w0rmz> hehe
[07:15] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: and that's the problem: in chroot I don't have any write permission while in livecd env lilo fails because it can't find a device (/proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found)
[07:15] <oferet> I am formating the hd now, recommendations for partitioning
[07:15] <MAPD> w0rmz because i've met some :P
[07:15] <nonspecific> hi, does anybody know why msn won't run on my gaim
[07:15] <Frafra> concept10: pon dsl-provider
[07:15] <pfp> oferet: can't you ping your gateway / some other ip
[07:15] <dv_> hello
[07:16] <w0rmz> MAPD, u got their pics ?
[07:16] <w0rmz> huhu
[07:16] <jschroed> Grumbly: www.sugarcrm.com, www.asterisk.org
[07:16] <concept10> Frafra, try a launcher
[07:16] <plagerism> Grumbly, I used to use a CRM called double chocco latte
[07:16] <dv_> is sqlite 3.2 for ubuntu available?
[07:16] <MAPD> w0rmz nope
[07:16] <w0rmz> mypapit, aku saje test pakai ubuntu ni
[07:16] <oferet> I could I just do not know how to do it in Linux
[07:16] <jschroed> SugarCRM is the best OSS Crm by far
[07:16] <Grumbly> jschroed:  many thanks...
[07:16] <w0rmz> MAPD, then how did u know them
[07:16] <MAPD> w0rmz personally?
[07:16] <Grumbly> Is it a support CRM or is it a mktg crm?
[07:16] <MAPD> i have a friend in malaysia
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  right. :P theres a few commands ya need to do to get the /dev and /proc and stuff set right.. I rember this from my Gentoo Days - where we had to do the same thing to just install. :P may want to skim the gentoo install docs. I know the commands are mentioned there.
[07:17] <w0rmz> MAPD, yeah
[07:17] <MAPD> he works on the towers
[07:17] <MAPD> with the bridge
[07:17] <MAPD> i cant remember the name
[07:17] <mypapit> w0rmz: aku pun test2.. aku pakai 5.04 (hoary).. mcm best gak awal2.. cuma nak connect stimmix aku tak paham sikit awal2.. tp lepas tu ok.. kemudian aku tgk ubuntu ni cam kosong je, cam utk newbie sgt lak.. hehe
[07:17] <Frafra> concept10: yes, but what command I must write in the launcher?
[07:17] <plagerism> Grumbly development/support
[07:17] <pfp> oferet: alt-f2, "ping i.p.ad.rr", stop it with ctrl-c
[07:17] <nonspecific> anyone?
[07:17] <w0rmz> mypapit, sebab tu dia cepat installation
[07:17] <MAPD> petronas w0rmz?
[07:17] <pfp> or "ping -c 5 ip.add.re.ss"
[07:17] <oferet> I tried that it did not work
[07:17] <w0rmz> by the way senang je kalo pakai apt-get
[07:18] <w0rmz> MAPD, what do u mean by petronas?
[07:18] <oferet> pfp, the ping command does not work
[07:18] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: i still have the gentoo handbook somewhere lying around ... hmm, but ubuntu doesn't have several commands/apps e.g. env-update ...
[07:18] <w0rmz> MAPD, that is oil company :p
[07:18] <muffin_> hi! where do i see my local ip adress???
[07:18] <Grumbly> jschroed:  Hmm... looks promising.  I'm thinking somthing like a bank would have... Or, if you've seen it, Nettopia Octopus.
[07:18] <plagerism> So is breezy comparable to Debian unstable in stability??  I am thinking I want to upgrade
[07:18] <Grumbly> It's wicked huge
[07:18] <oferet> but it says now that I have a link up, 100 MBps, full duplix, lpa 0x41e1
[07:18] <MAPD> w0rmz
[07:18] <MAPD> wait
[07:18] <MAPD> i need to find the
[07:18] <MAPD> name
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  thats gentoo specific. not needed. :P
[07:18] <MAPD> i dont know if its correct
[07:18] <MAPD> lo
[07:18] <MAPD> l
[07:18] <joti> hi all
[07:19] <pfp> oferet: you mean the command is not found, or does it fail somehow
[07:19] <muffin_> how can i see my local ip adress???
[07:19] <oferet> pfp, command not found
[07:19] <no_dammagE> first of all, I'll need to modify my sources.list - it doesn't have anything except the CD and the drive is already in use ^^
[07:19] <Grumbly> plagerism:  which one?
[07:19] <pfp> oferet: bleh :(
[07:19] <MAPD> Petronas Towers
[07:19] <joti> does anyone have a gues how to get back to gdm for login? i've set it kdm accidently...:-)
[07:19] <MAPD> kuala limpur
[07:19] <oferet> pfp, I concur
[07:20] <MAPD> Kuala Lumpur
[07:20] <w0rmz> MAPD, hahahaha
[07:20] <alie> is it possible to install with apt-get on a desired location ?
[07:20] <MAPD> is it not correct
[07:20] <nickrud> joti, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:20] <w0rmz> MAPD, nice girl?
[07:20] <MAPD> yeah
[07:20] <MAPD> hoyt
[07:20] <w0rmz> MAPD, let me c the look
[07:20] <w0rmz> hehe
[07:20] <joti> nickrud: thx a lot
[07:20] <XRange> joti: one might edit /etc/rc.conf
[07:20] <nonspecific> sorry, but could I ask you a question, please
[07:20] <muffin_> is there a shell command to see my local ip adress???
[07:20] <UrbanFox> hi
[07:20] <w0rmz> mypapit, ko slalu lepak server mana
[07:20] <nickrud> XRange, there is no rc.conf :)
[07:21] <oferet> pfp, do you recommend a particular partition, I mean I jsut want ot finish this installations and get ubuntu working, once I'd play with it a little I'll learn to everything proper and will reinstall teh system in a month or 2
[07:21] <pfp> muffin_: ip addr ls
[07:21] <UrbanFox> where can I download the latest Ubuntu Breezy ISO?
[07:21] <UrbanFox> I want to see what's changed
[07:21] <UrbanFox> (Installing it on a VM)
[07:21] <muffin_> pfp thx
[07:21] <jschroed> muffin_: ifconfig eth0
[07:22] <kelsey> Has anyone gotten Runescape to work properly on Hoary Hedgehog?
[07:22] <oferet> pfp, forgot to say thank you
[07:22] <pfp> oferet: the system, with desktops etc is around 2-3 GB, add as much personal space as you need to that
[07:22] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: ok, apt-get update in chroot to install lilo ...
[07:22] <pfp> oferet: np :)
[07:22] <XRange>  nickrud, that would explain why i couldn't fine it then
[07:23] <Seveas> UrbanFox, releases.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <oferet> I've partioned my drive and now the system is being isntalled. I tried to install it before I remember it got stuck
[07:23] <oferet> so brace for impact, I am going to have a shitload of questinos in just a couple of minutes
[07:23] <kelsey> anyone?
[07:23] <nickrud> XRange, it's pretty much just links in rcS.d for startup, then rc2.d as the default run level
[07:23] <oferet> (I mean this is not my first attempt)
[07:23] <neighborlee> http://www.fazed.org/video/view/?id=21
[07:24] <alie> is it possible to install a package with apt-get on a desired location ?
[07:24] <neighborlee> cute and worth watching
[07:24] <jschroed> alie: It
[07:24] <jschroed> 's possible to compile a package in a desired location :) but not apt-get
[07:24] <alie> jschroed, what is the command to install
[07:25] <jschroed> apt-get install packagename
[07:25] <oferet> haha :)
[07:25] <alie> well that will install on default location rite ?
[07:27] <benjamin1254> neone ever work with old school power pcs that they were locked out of?
[07:27] <jurgis> When i trying to open synaptic i get this : http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8da.png, form kosole (sudo synaptic) every thing find, where is the problem?
[07:28] <joti> benjamin1254: if its macos9 you can boot with a os9 cd and delete a file that locks you out...google helps
[07:28] <benjamin1254> well i have os 8 it stinks
[07:28] <sockpuppe1> hello
[07:28] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: Fatal: open /dev/hda8: Permission denied
[07:28] <no_dammagE> how can I fix it?
[07:28] <benjamin1254> i cant do nething with it
[07:29] <no_dammagE> liloconfig tells me that ...
[07:29] <jurgis> somebody
[07:29] <benjamin1254> joti could i replace it w/ another hard drive
[07:29] <joti> benjamin: maybe it works on os8 as well...i suggest booting from a install cd and try to access your hd
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  with those commands I forget in the gentoo isntall - LOL - let me see
[07:29] <darkheart> jurgis Sounds like you're missing /root/.Xauthority or something.
[07:29] <Seveas> jurgis, don't do it as root
[07:29] <no_dammagE> ^^
[07:29] <sockpuppe1> i've recently ripped a dvd to my desktop using dvd::rip
[07:29] <Seveas> jurgis, as a normal user, use sudo synaptic
[07:29] <benjamin1254> i dident ever get an install cd seeing as it came froim a christian school and everything was locked
[07:29] <benjamin1254> when i got ity
[07:30] <nicholaspaul> hey cats
[07:30] <darkheart> jurgis Listen to Seveas..I misread your message.
[07:30] <sockpuppe1> and when I encode it, say, to xvid, it gives me this weird mpeg error
[07:30] <joti> normally changing a hd works if theres a working system on it...if not you'll try to install one from a install cd
[07:30] <joti> @benjamin
[07:30] <dv_> is there a searchable ubuntu package database, like packages.debian.org ?
[07:30] <Carpe_Libertatem> Can someone help me change resolution settings on Ubuntu? When I tried changing it in xorg.conf, X11 wouldn't start
[07:30] <Carpe_Libertatem> =x
[07:30] <icewt> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:30] <sockpuppe1> anyone capable of helping?
[07:31] <dv_> Carpe_Libertatem, you can change the resolution in gnome
[07:31] <dv_> without manually tweaking xorg.conf
[07:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> Not to the res I want
[07:31] <benjamin1254> joti so alls i have to do is take ne old hard drive i have laying around n then go from there but how o u pry the older hard drives out of thoes beasts of a mac
[07:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> it's maxed at 1024, I went at least 1280, pref 1600
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,   # mount -t proc none /mnt/YourMountPoint/proc       Is one of the commands.
[07:31] <nicholaspaul> is your monitor capable, Carpe+Libertatem
[07:31] <jurgis> Seveas, i sayed that from console everything find
[07:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> yes
[07:31] <joti> btw: is there something like netstumbler for ubuntu - i know theres kismet - but i didnt know about a gui for it
[07:31] <DJ_Mirage> look for Kismet-GUI on google
[07:31] <Carpe_Libertatem> In windows I run 1600x1200
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> and youre editing xorg.conf with gedit?
[07:32] <joti> @benjamin do you habe trouble opening a mac?
[07:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> I edited with pico
[07:32] <concept10> Hurry now ! Install Quod Libet, its much better than rhythmbox
[07:32] <benjamin1254> i can open the back just cant get to the drives or hard drive
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> i dont know of any reason why pico might mess it up... :S
[07:32] <joti> there a two buttons at the lower front edge, press them and pull the cover towards you
[07:32] <sockpuppe1> concept10: whats so good about it?
[07:32] <Carpe_Libertatem> I guess I can try again
[07:32] <benjamin1254> its a beast and a half to get it  and then takin it out is a whole other story
[07:32] <concept10> sockpuppe1, faster!!!!!!
[07:32] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: mounted and rechrooted
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> i always check for typos (sorry if thats too obvious:) )
[07:33] <sockpuppe1> concept10 could you possibly help me?
[07:33] <concept10> sockpuppe1, more robust
[07:33] <concept10> sockpuppe1, with?
[07:33] <oferet> pfp, there we go, here is my favorite error
[07:33] <oferet> it says
[07:33] <oferet> Unable to install the selected kernel
[07:33] <sockpuppe1> well encoding dvd
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  i seem to recall making a  soft link  also.. but its been a while. the gentoo docs are different now also. they may of included the steps in their env-update command some how
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> i got a Q: anyone know how to make autorun discs?
[07:33] <oferet> An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system
[07:33] <joti> benjamin: there is another plastic button/lock you can use, the web keeps several descriptions for it - maybe lowendmac.com does as well
[07:33] <oferet> Kernel package: 'linux-386'.
[07:34] <concept10> sockpuppe1, watching a dvd? or making one?
[07:34] <sockpuppe1> encoding one to xvid
[07:34] <oferet> how can I fix it ? (pfp)
[07:34] <CptS> How do i remove alsa completly so it won't load up on startup and so that x and gnome app's that require sound won't look for it?
[07:34] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: well, mounting /proc didn't help :/
[07:34] <oferet> anyone /
[07:34] <oferet> ?
[07:34] <Frafra> I'm on breezy. I've an usb mouse with scroll, but I can't scroll. what i must activate?
[07:34] <joti> benjamin: you'll need a fully working system to replace the old hd with nevertheless. and mention: its als scsi
[07:34] <sockpuppe1> i get a mpeg error when I try to play the movie (xvid)
[07:34] <dv_> anjuta is still version 1.2.2 in hoary?
[07:34] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: ill google for chroot
[07:34] <dv_> is there a stable anjuta 2 ?
[07:35] <dv_> ah, no, just googled :)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> no_dammagE,  doing that now.. cant find any good sites yet.. You check the ubuntu wiki yet? for grub/lilo restore
[07:35] <oferet> people, I got a red screen -> yaikes
[07:35] <nicholaspaul> Frafra - try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <oferet> help
[07:35] <oferet> my pc does not like the ubuntu kernel package
[07:35] <dv_> oferet, ati drivers?
[07:35] <nicholaspaul> frafra - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57794&highlight=scroll+usb
[07:36] <oferet> what do you mean ?
[07:36] <Frafra> thx nicholaspaul
[07:36] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: there is nothing regarding lilo
[07:36] <oferet> the computer is a old
[07:36] <nicholaspaul> :-) frafra
[07:36] <oferet> I do not think it has an ATI video card(if that is what you mean)
[07:36] <nicholaspaul> red screen? ooo... (jk)
[07:36] <sockpuppe1> which do you guys think is better LiLo or GRUB?
[07:37] <srijith> let the bootloader war begin
[07:37] <srijith> :)
[07:37] <oferet> ye red screen is serious
[07:37] <nicholaspaul> :S
[07:37] <benjamin1254> joti i have a full working pc
[07:37] <oferet> red screen of ...... (fill in)
[07:37] <benjamin1254> not mac though
[07:37] <nicholaspaul> worse than blue screen?
[07:37] <CptS> help, anyone? :(
[07:37] <benjamin1254> macs are 1 thing i dont have
[07:37] <oferet> well the damn thing does not work.. so I figure its equal
[07:37] <benjamin1254> besides 1 old school mac
[07:37] <MAPD> anyone here ever played cs1.6 on linux?
[07:37] <MAPD> :P
[07:38] <nicholaspaul> wassup cpts?
[07:38] <nicholaspaul> i got a q i got a q :)
[07:38] <etker> i cant unmount my DVD ....   and my computer (an iMac!) has no eject button  :-/
[07:38] <joti> benjamin: sound like you're in trouble then...there are plenty of old macos-cds sold on ebay
[07:38] <nicholaspaul> anyone know how to make an autorun disc, like on a pc but in ubuntu?
[07:38] <mr_daemon> Hey is anyone here knowledgable about mol (mac-On-Linux)
[07:39] <CptS> nicholaspaul: I want to remove alsa.. and need some help...
[07:39] <pfp> oferet: sorry, /me was on the phone
[07:39] <nicholaspaul> you should be able to uninstall with synaptic
[07:39] <oferet> did u see the error i got ?
[07:40] <pfp> oferet: can't install kernel?
[07:40] <oferet> yep
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> altho i'm afraid i've played with alsa alot and got really frustrated !!! (CptS)
[07:40] <gmoore> how do you make an init script to run something at boot time?
[07:40] <Seveas> nicholaspaul, fortunately that 'autorun' feature is disabled by default
[07:40] <Seveas> it's a good way for spreading viruses
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> serveas - it is? oh my !!
[07:40] <pfp> oferet: how old is your computer? maybe you need to create a /boot partition near the start of the disk
[07:41] <nicholaspaul> thx serveas - well thats saved me a ton of research - what about inc. a swf that can be run manually?
[07:41] <benjamin1254> joti: how would i get a old school mac cd cuz i dont have a paypal accnt and dont know ne way of what to do for filling out my information..... u might wana pm me for this 1 lol
[07:41] <oferet> very old
[07:41] <oferet> it's a PII
[07:41] <oferet> I cna get the whole specs list
[07:41] <oferet> but it's old
[07:41] <benjamin1254> i have an old pII i submerged in oil and it runs
[07:41] <mmoscosa> question...
[07:42] <mmoscosa> why cant i play videos on totem movie player
[07:42] <oferet> which oil would yu recommend me to use ?
[07:42] <benjamin1254> di electric oil
[07:42] <mmoscosa> ive downloaded the xine-nui
[07:42] <sockpuppe1> clues anyone?
[07:42] <Seveas> mmoscosa, what type of video?
[07:42] <mmoscosa> Seveas .avi
[07:43] <Seveas> mmoscosa, might be divx, you need w32codecs for that
[07:43] <pfp> oferet: what we're interested in is your partition setup and if your bios has some disk size limit, don't remember which atm....
[07:43] <mmoscosa> Seveas synaptic?!
[07:43] <CptS> nicholaspaul: how do i use synaptic?
[07:43] <sockpuppe1> seveas, i've got a question
[07:43] <Seveas> mmoscosa, it's in hoary-extras, look at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org for a url
[07:43] <MAPD> how to install all codecs needs for movies?
[07:43] <srijith> mmoscosa: vlc player would help?
[07:43] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, then ask :)
[07:44] <kemik> VLC for official player!! :)
[07:44] <sockpuppe1> when I encode .vob to .avi I get this mpeg error
[07:44] <sockpuppe1> from the avi
[07:44] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, I know nothing about vob encoding, sorry
[07:44] <pfp> oferet: do you have something else on the disk already, like windows?
[07:44] <sockpuppe1> its cool
[07:45] <oferet> no onthing
[07:45] <oferet> I think the bios allows large partitions
[07:45] <oferet> damn
[07:45] <pfp> hmm
[07:45] <oferet> ok, this is stupid, cause I am not sure
[07:45] <oferet> so what kind of specs are the minimum to install this system
[07:45] <oferet> or is there a list of things I should get
[07:46] <benjamin1254> did u know there is a theme out to make ur linux box look like windows xp?
[07:46] <pfp> p2 is still fine, maybe not for gnome though
[07:46] <oferet> I'll get it and we'd have a normal conversation, cause I am not sure of anything
[07:46] <pfp> :)
[07:46] <kemik> oferet:  if you want gnome on a p2, you need at least 256mb of ram
[07:46] <oferet> I jsut want to install ubuntu and run a server to pracice JSP PHP MySQL and more
[07:46] <oferet> I do not know what gnome is anyway
[07:47] <pfp> gnome is a nice, but fat,  desktop environment
[07:47] <kemik> oferet:  for a server install a p2 is fine i guess. im running debian on my server, but that's because ubuntu wasnt around 3 years ago =)
[07:47] <oxez> is it me or the xchat version on the package tree is a bit outdated?
[07:47] <oferet> no..I need something light to run a server rather than have a nice desktop envrionment
[07:47] <ValiSystM> hello, i'm under breezy and i got a blank sreen when i boot on 2.6.12 kernel with framebuffer
[07:47] <ValiSystM> any idea ?
[07:47] <pfp> oferet: you could do a server installation then
[07:47] <kemik> oferet:  just a server install is fine
[07:47] <oferet> exactly I wanted to install debian as well and I Was told that ubuntu is better
[07:48] <pfp> oferet: when you 1st boot the cd, type "server"
[07:48] <oferet> I tried
[07:48] <pax> if gnome is fat then what's kde, obese? :c)
[07:48] <oferet> I get the same error
[07:48] <kemik> pax :P
[07:48] <oferet> obese hahahahah funny
[07:48] <oferet> ok I'll reboot system,
[07:48] <Seveas> pax, rofl :)
[07:48] <jadedstar> pax beached whale :-P
[07:48] <srijith> oferet: is this still discussion on ur kernel error?
[07:48] <sockpuppe1> anyone know about .vob encoding?
[07:49] <oferet> yes
[07:49] <srijith> what is your mount partition like?
[07:49] <oferet> well I tried to install and I get a kernel erro
[07:49] <oferet> nothing
[07:49] <srijith> paritions..
[07:49] <oferet> I have nothing there
[07:49] <oferet> I am making a clean install
[07:50] <srijith> you didnt get to the point where you had to specify the partitions? in the install steps?
[07:50] <oferet> I am going to make it a server installation...
[07:50] <oferet> I did
[07:50] <oferet> but I am restarting
[07:50] <oferet> sec
[07:50] <pfp> oferet: you should try making the first partition around 30-100 MB and assigning it to /boot
[07:50] <lampshade> Hey, is AMD K7 the same as Athlon XP?  I was going to upgrade my kernel image to one specifically for the athlon, but I want to double check what I'm doing in case the k7 is something different entirely.
[07:50] <oferet> ok I'll do that now
[07:50] <srijith> pfp's point exactly
[07:50] <srijith> keep /boot as your first partition
[07:50] <srijith> within 100MB
[07:51] <ValiSystM> lampshade, XP is a newer version of the K7
[07:51] <oferet> I'll make it 100 just to be sure
[07:51] <oferet> I mean what is optimal ?
[07:51] <MFen> what's a good smtp server? postfix?
[07:51] <lampshade> so the kernel image of the 2.6.10 on AMD K7 is not it I take it then?  (I'm looking at that apt-cache search results)
[07:51] <srijith> haha.. I had set aside about 80M and I just use 11M!
[07:52] <pfp> oferet: you can get around with even 10 MB, but space lets you experiment with different kernels
[07:52] <srijith> unless you are into compiling kernels for supper, you dont need anything more than 100 I think
[07:52] <oferet> well I am willing to set aside even more, just to make it work
[07:52] <ValiSystM> lampshade, the  2.6.10 will work on your xp
[07:52] <ValiSystM> (i am running on)
[07:52] <pfp> though 100 MB is definately enough :)
[07:52] <oferet> in that case I'll stick to 100
[07:52] <srijith> oferet: actually setting aside more may creat problems!
[07:52] <ValiSystM> lampshade, the 2.6.10-k ;)
[07:53] <ValiSystM> lampshade, the 2.6.10-k7 ;)
[07:53] <srijith> remember we are putting /boot as first for a reason!
[07:53] <pfp> srijith is indeed correct .)
[07:53] <svu> where would I take the cd image of the last breeze beta?
[07:53] <oferet> ok I just set up the network manually again
[07:53] <oferet> now to the hd partition
[07:53] <sockpuppe1> what is the colony thing about
[07:53] <oferet> what other partitions should I have ?
[07:53] <srijith> oferet: swap
[07:54] <srijith> oferet: /home
[07:54] <srijith> oferet: /
[07:54] <krisg> testing
[07:54] <srijith> oferet: that I would say is the minimum
[07:54] <oferet> so the first one is going ot be boot = 100mb
[07:54] <oferet> swat second ?
[07:54] <oferet> how big ?
[07:54] <gro> svu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-3/
[07:54] <pfp> oferet: how big a disk have you got?
[07:54] <sockpuppe1> brb
[07:54] <oferet> 6.4 g
[07:55] <srijith> about the same as your RAM?
[07:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> Ok - I changed my res to 1600x1200 in xorg.conf, but I am only getting options for 1280x768 and lower in Gnome's screen res properties, and the screen is obviously not 1600x1200
[07:55] <lampshade> ValiSystM, you sure I'm good going with the K7 for my athlon XP?
[07:55] <ValiSystM> lampshade, yep
[07:55] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with setting up FTPd?
[07:55] <ValiSystM> go on
[07:55] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: does your card support higher res?
[07:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> Does in Windows.
[07:55] <Carpe_Libertatem> =P
[07:55] <ValiSystM> lampshade,  but keep your i386
[07:56] <ValiSystM> we never knows
[07:56] <oferet> ok is boot primary ?
[07:56] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: and you got the right driver?
[07:56] <lampshade> ok
[07:56] <oferet> I have no idea when it comes to partitioning for linux
[07:56] <lampshade> sounds good, thanks
[07:56] <srijith> oferet: yup
[07:56] <Carpe_Libertatem> Not sure.
[07:56] <Carpe_Libertatem> How would I find out?
[07:56] <oferet> beginning I guess
[07:56] <pfp> oferet: you could just use /boot + swap + / , ie. everything else on the third partition. otherwise you could find yourself having empty space where you don't need it and vice versa
[07:56] <Impulse29> I have a laptop with a 1280x800 resolution... what can I do so ubuntu live runs?
[07:56] <chez> i'm having trouble building an application from source, can someone give me a hand?
[07:56] <lampshade> oferet, I didn't know partitions till Gentoo made me do it by hand
[07:57] <srijith> I don't know much of hw.. but letting us know what card u have would be start!
[07:57] <reiki_work> I just gave Ubuntu the whole brand new 160GB hard drive so I could play! :)
[07:57] <Carpe_Libertatem> I have a Radeon 9200 SE
[07:57] <Impulse29> srijith, me?
[07:57] <oferet> well if I am making a boot partiton I assumed its called boot, but no I have 10 names options
[07:57] <whistlerstag> hello, can somebody tell me where i can find a german channel?
[07:57] <srijith> oferet: u can keep all of them primary since u dont havemore than /, /home, /boot
[07:57] <lampshade> something that honestly, isn't necessary for people
[07:57] <emitrax--> hi
[07:57] <srijith> Impulse29: nope, sorry
[07:57] <MovieTrailerMan> I can only seem to get firefox to run as a root
[07:57] <lampshade> lampshade, partitioning by hand that is
[07:57] <oferet> ext3, ext2 reserFS JFS XFS FAt16 and 32, sawp
[07:57] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: I think I managed it. the point was that in my fstab my /mnt/hda8 (the root) was mounted as noexec,user,auto (what is= nodev), I modified it to use only the dev option and it seems: Added ubuntu *
[07:57] <oferet> swap*
[07:58] <svu> gro:  shit. safari cannot find the server - while firefox can. isn't it great?:)
[07:58] <MovieTrailerMan> Is there any security implications running firefox as root?
[07:58] <pfp> oferet: ext3; that's the filesystem type
[07:58] <oferet> ok
[07:58] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: I'll reboot and come back with results - maybe we will learn both from this one :)
[07:58] <oferet> mount point /
[07:58] <nubbe> How do I prelink gnome-terminal the gnome-menu?
[07:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> srijith - DID YOU GET THAT?
[07:58] <Secretus> i have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox
[07:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[07:58] <emitrax--> question: I tried to install ubuntu on a AMD 64, at my dad's office. The computer freezed right away... couldn't even start the kernel...
[07:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> sorry on the caps
[07:58] <pitti> MovieTrailerMan: why the hell you want to do this?
[07:58] <pfp> oferet: mount point for boot is /boot
[07:58] <srijith> choose ext3 if you want to play safe
[07:58] <oferet> is there something else I should add
[07:59] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with setting up FTPd?
[07:59] <gro> svu: gotta love firefox ;)
[07:59] <oferet> :) tnx
[07:59] <Impulse29> in the ubuntu live, are the resolutions with the (*) enabled, or does that disable them?
[07:59] <emitrax--> does anybody know why? or what I can do ?
[07:59] <pr1sm> hey all, I am very new to ubuntu and was wondering how I find out what kernel I have, I need to know for an ATI driver update, I have 5.04
[07:59] <oferet> anything else I should add in this partition, I see options such as typical usage, and bootable flag
[07:59] <MovieTrailerMan> svu, svu that's a user problem
[07:59] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: no exerience with Radeon.. anyone knows which driver for Radeom 9200SE?
[07:59] <MovieTrailerMan> not a safari problem
[07:59] <emitrax--> pr1sm: uname -a
[07:59] <svu> gro: I do. Just happy for macos users:)
[07:59] <oferet> I think it should have the bootable flag right ?
[07:59] <darkheart> Impulse29 I don't know what the * is, but commented lines are preceded by #
[07:59] <Concord_Dawn> pr1sm, you probably have kernel 2.6.10 though.
[07:59] <svu> MovieTrailerMan: I know:)
[07:59] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: try google and found out the correct X driver
[07:59] <MovieTrailerMan> Safari is the greatest idea of Steve Job's yet. a browser that is a work of PURE GENIUS!!
[08:00] <srijith> unless someone else can help
[08:00] <pr1sm> thanks a lot emitrax
[08:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> srijith - how do I find out which driver I am usign now?
[08:00] <MovieTrailerMan> Steve Jobs is infallable, therefore, Safari is infallable
[08:00] <njan> pr1sm, uname -v
[08:00] <pfp> oferet: actually it (bootable flag)'s not necessary, doesn't hurt though
[08:00] <oferet> ok done
[08:00] <njan> pr1sm, uname -a will give you a load of information on your kernel, uname -v just gives you the version.
[08:00] <Impulse29> darkheart, when I go through the ubuntu live start, it asks me what resolution I want for my monitor, and it lists them... I don't know whether a * is enabling them (to the right), or if it disables them
[08:00] <pfp> oferet: otherwise defaults are fine
[08:00] <oferet> so I have to create now more partitions, which ones ?
[08:00] <gro> Impulse29: * enables them
[08:00] <pr1sm> ok ty
[08:00] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:00] <oferet> one more or 2 more ?
[08:00] <Impulse29> thank you:) I had it opposite:)
[08:01] <Secretus> i have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox
[08:01] <emitrax--> question: I tried to install ubuntu on a AMD 64, at my dad's office. The computer freezed right away... couldn't even start the kernel...  does anybody know why? is it a known bug ?
[08:01] <pfp> oferet: then swap, 500M - 1G
[08:01] <MrPockets> hey,  i have some files on my windows HDD, and i want a short cut to them on my linux HDD withought actualy copying the folder over,  how can i just create a short cut to a directory?
[08:01] <oferet> 1 G then
[08:01] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: search for Section Device and associated driver
[08:01] <gro> Secretus: what is the error?
[08:01] <oferet> which would leave me 5.3 G to play with
[08:01] <Hikaru79> Does anyone know how wireless card support stands in ubuntu? Is it generally auto-detected on install? If not, is there a wiki guide to getting Wireless cards up and running? Thanks =)
[08:01] <oferet> cool ?
[08:01] <ishit> anyone here knows any good tutorial for kino video editing softaware
[08:01] <ValiSystM> Secretus, try with aptitude
[08:01] <pfp> oferet: plenty
[08:01] <Impulse29> MrPockets, make an alias
[08:01] <Secretus> ValiSystM:What is aptitude ? Sorry, i'm new
[08:01] <Petite_Yous> salut
[08:01] <oferet> beginning as well
[08:02] <oferet> swap hmm -> lets see
[08:02] <ValiSystM> Secretus, aptitude is same thing as apt-get, but better ;)
[08:02] <nubbe> menu-driven apt-get with some extras
[08:02] <Secretus> ValiSystM: Is it the same command ?
[08:02] <k1ng> i'm trying to mount multiple drives (NTFS). I looked this up on ubuntuguide.org and it shows me how to mount 1 drive (which i successfully did), but i'm not sure how to mount another drive.
[08:02] <Concord_Dawn> aptitude uses apt-get.
[08:02] <oferet> I made all hte partitoins primary
[08:02] <Concord_Dawn> it's just a GUI for it.
[08:02] <srijith> oferet: great :)
[08:03] <oferet> I made all hte partitoins primary
[08:03] <oferet> the 5.3 should be ext2 right ?
[08:03] <ishit> hey anyone any help on kino
[08:03] <ValiSystM> Concord_Dawn, and depency checks
[08:03] <Impulse29> starting ubuntu live it says "temporary error naming resolution"
[08:03] <pfp> oferet: ext3 is better
[08:03] <k1ng> "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0" is what i have for my first.. do i just change the /dev/hda1 to the right drive and leave everything else the same?
[08:03] <srijith> ext3 or ext2.. ur choice, I would go with ext3
[08:03] <oferet> hahah :) thank you <-------- retard over here
[08:03] <ValiSystM> it makes the difference
[08:03] <Impulse29> I hear noise though
[08:03] <Concord_Dawn> k1ing: same thing as mounting the other drive, except choose a different mountpoint
[08:03] <oferet> what's teh difference ?
[08:03] <oferet> I mean I am making it ext3 but how does it work ?
[08:03] <pfp> ext3 has journaling
[08:03] <gro> k1ng: change /dev/hda1 to the right drive and change /media/windows to an other mount point
[08:04] <ValiSystM> aptitude makes suggestions on depency problems
[08:04] <oferet> I see that ... but what does it mean?
[08:04] <srijith> oferet: do you really want to get into file systems right now :)?
[08:04] <pfp> heh
[08:04] <oferet> well depends on how long and complex the explanation is
[08:04] <k1ng> i tried using /media/storage but it says that it doesnt exist. how can I create it?
[08:04] <oferet> I am not thick... but .. u know curious
[08:04] <k1ng> never mind
[08:04] <nubbe> mkdir /media/storage
[08:04] <gro> k1ng: mkdir /media/storage ;)
[08:04] <srijith> oferet: gogole is the master.. it will teach you more than any of us
[08:04] <k1ng> hehe.. i should think before i ask :)
[08:04] <srijith> hmm.. google
[08:04] <k1ng> thanks for the help
[08:05] <gro> k1ng: np
[08:05] <oferet> fair enough I will do so now
[08:05] <oferet> so now its formating and soon I'll get the kernel error again ... or maybe not we'll c
[08:05] <srijith> I am seeing a strange situation with my USB dongle
[08:06] <srijith> I have partitioined it to a fat32 and ext3..
[08:06] <pfp> oferet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[08:06] <srijith> when I automaount the thing, I get three dirs inside /media
[08:06] <srijith> two of which are ok, the fat32 and ext3.. but the 3rd seems to be the /dev/sdb as a whole!
[08:07] <srijith> anyone know why thi happens? happends in FC also
[08:07] <gro> srijith: maybe a problem with the partition table of the usb stick?
[08:08] <oferet> cool now I understand more or less how it work
[08:08] <oferet> its just a safety feature
[08:08] <ValiSystM> "just" hehe
[08:08] <oferet> a better file system, easier to backup I guess and more :) but I am still reading
[08:09] <Absenth> Wonder how long it'll be before Ubuntu get's ported to this.
[08:09] <Secretus> i have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox
[08:09] <srijith> gro: fdisk says fine.. any other way to check?
[08:09] <Absenth> http://www.projectblackdog.com/site/product.html
[08:09] <compdude> libtrash makes it safe to run as root :)
[08:09] <srijith> oferet: like your curious nature :)
[08:09] <gro> Secretus: what is the error you get?
[08:09] <dv> ubuntu tries to activate eth0 when booting
[08:09] <ValiSystM> Secretus, tell us what apt-get says
[08:09] <dv> is there a way to prevent this?
[08:10] <th0r> hello togheter i have a problem i need to install some applications to my system ... before i used Kanotix i just typed in root console apt-get install XXX that all folks now running ubuntu and this schematic doesent work anymore why`?
[08:10] <dv> this is a laptop, and its not permanently connected
[08:10] <Absenth> dv, you could disable the nic in bios.
[08:10] <dv> thus, I want to explicitely activate eth0 in the network dialog
[08:10] <Secretus> I will in a minute, just accidentaly closed terminal
[08:10] <tenco_> hi
[08:10] <dv> if I need it
[08:10] <Frafra> hi all
[08:10] <Absenth> dv, although I think on the OS side is a better idea :)
[08:10] <tenco_> i have problems here with a dlink dwl-g520
[08:10] <oferet> well thank you sir. But I see that it works under teh assumptions that the operations are atomic. I wonder how realistic is that
[08:10] <gro> srijith: sorry idea how to check it, but when uou automount do you get 2 or 3 shortcuts on the desktop?
[08:11] <Frafra> i need mcrypt module for python. where can i found it?
[08:11] <srijith> dv: my extreme method -> http://www.srijith.net/publications/ubuntu-nc6120.shtml
[08:11] <dv> i guess I can remove it from the runlevels
[08:11] <th0r> hello togheter i have a problem i need to install some applications to my system ... before i used Kanotix i just typed in root console apt-get install XXX that all folks now running ubuntu and this schematic doesent work anymore why`?
[08:11] <th0r> hello togheter i have a problem i need to install some applications to my system ... before i used Kanotix i just typed in root console apt-get install XXX that all folks now running ubuntu and this schematic doesent work anymore why`?
[08:11] <th0r> :)
[08:11] <tenco_> -> ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL Status 13
[08:11] <srijith> dv: search for "Slow bootup?"
[08:11] <Secretus> i have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ? I've already checked with #firefox
[08:11] <Secretus> that's waht it says
[08:11] <Secretus> and firefox doesn't work
[08:12] <yccheok> is there any nice What u c is wat u get HTML editor to be recommance in ubuntu?
[08:12] <srijith> gro: I don't have a desktop.. :) Usinf fluxbox but yes /media shows usbdisk, usbdisk-1 and usbdisk-2
[08:12] <th0r> human beeings lol
[08:12] <th0r> bullshit
[08:12] <tenco_> can someone help me please with my wlan card?
[08:12] <svu> anyone running latest ubuntu on power g5 ?
[08:12] <kemik> tenco_:  done the ndiswrapper howto ?
[08:12] <srijith> gro: in FC3, I get three shortcuts
[08:12] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[08:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:13] <tenco_> kemik: no, its an atheros card
[08:13] <tenco_> kemik: ?
[08:13] <kemik> tenco_:  follow the link
[08:13] <tenco_> kemik: a dlink dwl-g520
[08:13] <Secretus> mozilla-firefox is already the newest version.
[08:13] <Secretus> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[08:13] <Secretus> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:13] <Secretus>   mozilla-firefox-gnome-support: Depends: firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed
[08:13] <Secretus> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:14] <Secretus> that's what it says, and firefox doesn't work
[08:14] <ubuntu> ubuntu = yay!!
[08:14] <apokryphos> Secretus: not a good idea to flood the channel.
[08:14] <Secretus> but wait
[08:14] <Secretus> apokryphos: I copied and paste an error message
[08:14] <apokryphos> Secretus: Yes. Please read the /topic always when entering a channel
[08:14] <kemik> !patebin
[08:14] <ubotu> kemik: Syntax error in line 1
[08:15] <kemik> !pastebin
[08:15] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:15] <tenco_> kemik: but its an atheros card. shouldnt that work with the madwifi driver?
[08:15] <dv> but this disables the entire hotplug feature
[08:15] <kemik> Secretus:  read what ubotu pasted
[08:15] <gro> srijith: try to recreate the partitions, and otherwise maybe time to submit a bug report ;)
[08:15] <dv> it must be possible to just prevent startup at boot
[08:15] <pitti> mdz: yes, -ar is the only package, fixing now
[08:15] <Secretus> Oh sorry
[08:15] <kemik> tenco_:  dont know :)
[08:15] <theD3viL> Is possible that ubuntu was working slow when i was using my own desktop image... now works good ?
[08:15] <srijith> dv: yes.. , you try play around with the init using bum?
[08:16] <kemik> Secretus:  did you try apt-get -f install ?
[08:16] <tenco_> kemik: ok, i will try it...
[08:16] <tenco_> kemik: thx so far
[08:16] <gro> Secretus: try the next xommando: sudo apt-get install firefox-gnome-support
[08:16] <srijith> gro: don't wanna recreate... has my GPG signing key there!
[08:16] <kemik> tenco_:  np
[08:16] <Secretus> kemik: yes, the same message
[08:16] <kemik> now: tv
[08:16] <Secretus> gro: I will try
[08:16] <alnic> hallo all
[08:16] <ishit> wen u download n instal thru console where r the packages stored
[08:16] <dv> what is bum?
[08:16] <tristanmike> hello all
[08:17] <zukalk> hi
[08:17] <gro> Secretus: you will get another error, bu then we can find out which packages is creating the erros
[08:17] <zukalk> dv, bum is boot-up manager
[08:17] <gro> srijith: ok, maybe time to file a bug report ;)
[08:17] <dv> I cant find it
[08:18] <dv> apt-cache search bum says nothing useful
[08:18] <titaniululz> how do i run something as root from the menu?
[08:18] <meuserj|work> topic contradiction:"Please don't use Breezy yet" | "Colony 3 is available for testing"
[08:18] <MovieTrailerMan> what is the kde icon set that comes with kubuntu
[08:18] <MovieTrailerMan> ?
[08:18] <srijith> test!=use
[08:18] <srijith> test = abuse
[08:18] <srijith> :)
[08:18] <meuserj|work> how do you test it without using it?
[08:18] <dv> so where is bum?
[08:18] <Secretus> gro:I used to get error messages, but now not anymore , firefox still doesn't work though
[08:19] <srijith> bum = bootup manager
[08:19] <zukalk> dv, it doesn't come with hoary
[08:19] <titaniululz> i'm trying to run a gtk+ app and it needs to be run as root. when i run it from the gnome menu it doesn't start as root and just breaks. when i run it from a terminal it says gtk warning cannot open display, connection refused by server. how can i run it as root from the menu?
[08:19] <zukalk> dv, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42129
[08:19] <meuserj|work> I understand though.. test it if you know what you are doing... avoid it if you are a newbie...
[08:19] <srijith> dv: synaptic, apt-get
[08:19] <gro> Secretus: try starting firefox from the console
[08:19] <dv> I could use sys-rc.conf too
[08:19] <zukalk> dv: found it: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:19] <srijith> dv: sure I gues
[08:20] <gro> Secretus: command = mozilla-firefox
[08:20] <dv> but I cant find that too
[08:20] <dv> apt-cache and synaptic cant find it
[08:20] <Secretus> gro:Nope
[08:20] <srijith> dv: zukalk provided a URL.. I guess you need to add the repos
[08:21] <zukalk> srijith, dv, it's not about repos, just download the .deb
[08:21] <MAPD> any replace for msn
[08:21] <MAPD> with webcam support?
[08:21] <Secretus> aMSN
[08:21] <mindamp> i have tried vsftpd and proftpd, and whenever i login to ftp with a regular user... it doesn't list the remote directory...
[08:21] <mindamp> it just hangs
[08:21] <mindamp> any suggestions?
[08:22] <srijith> zukalk: oh ok.. must be that sorry for wrong info.. I just checked synaptic and it was there.. so I guess it was always listed :)
[08:22] <srijith> MAPD: gaim
[08:22] <srijith> MAPD: hmmm webcamm.. donno :)
[08:22] <dv> oh
[08:22] <dv> yeah
[08:22] <dv> :)
[08:22] <meuserj|work> there's always gaim-vv...
[08:22] <gmoore> how can i run a gtk app as root?
[08:23] <mindamp> sudo
[08:23] <mindamp> can anyone help with this ftpd problem?
[08:23] <Secretus> n ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ?
[08:23] <zukalk> srijith, you're using Hoary or Breezy?
[08:23] <MAPD> amsn
[08:23] <gmoore> when i try it from terminal it doesn't load, when i do it from the gnome menu it loads but says it needs to be run as root. how do i run as root from the gnome menu?
[08:23] <darkheart> mindamp What do you mean it doesn't list it?
[08:23] <MAPD> is supposed to work with webcam
[08:23] <meuserj|work> nevermind.. gaim-vv doesn't support msn
[08:23] <srijith> zukalk: Hoary.. laptop too precious for Breezy :)
[08:24] <ompaul> not much
[08:24] <mindamp> it doesn't list any remote directory
[08:24] <mindamp> or anything in the directory for that matter
[08:24] <zukalk> srijith, that's weird. here's what it says: BUM is currently in Debian unstable and Ubuntu breezy repositories. These users can just apt-get it. Other users of debian-derivative distro's (i.e. Ubuntu Hoary) can just download the .deb package
[08:24] <mindamp> i did apt-get install proftpd
[08:24] <Frafra> hi all
[08:24] <dv> hmm
[08:24] <mindamp> logged in as regular user no problem.. but i can't change directories.. or even get a listing of any directory
[08:24] <ompaul> audio is better setup
[08:24] <srijith> zukalk: once you dpkg doen't it get listed in synaptic?
[08:25] <ReleaseX> does anyone else have their text garbled up when booting
[08:25] <Frafra> I need python2.4-mcrypt for breezy amd64. where can I found it?
[08:25] <dv> i guess all I have to do is disable the "networking" script at startup
[08:25] <zukalk> srijith, yes, but i thought you didn't have it installed
[08:25] <srijith> zukalk: I did..
[08:25] <srijith> dv didnt
[08:25] <darkheart> mindamp Sounds like you need to spend some time reading documentation for your ftp server settings.
[08:25] <srijith> dv: I hope so for your won good ;)
[08:25] <dv> I didnt do what?
[08:25] <srijith> s/won/own
[08:25] <titaniululz> i can't run any visual apps from the terminal (eg mozilla-firefox). i get the error >   Xlib: connection to "unix:1000.0" refused by server  Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:25] <Secretus> i have firefox on an ubuntu linux installation, however when I tried to install the newest version via apt-get, an error occured, and I can't install it by overwriting, and i can't remove it, what to do ?
[08:25] <mindamp> any help?
[08:26] <ompaul> ReleaseX, that is usually an indication that your video card is not supported or doing something strange
[08:26] <mindamp> secretus.. what do you mean you can't remove it
[08:26] <mindamp> apt-get remove firefox
[08:26] <srijith> dv: have bum installed
[08:26] <zukalk> Secretus, have you been using backports? i had the sane problem the other day
[08:26] <dv> i just installed it
[08:26] <dv> hmm
[08:26] <dv> networking is an S script
[08:26] <zukalk> same*
[08:26] <Secretus> mindamp: I know, but that gives errors
[08:26] <dv> not removable
[08:26] <mindamp> what errors
[08:26] <Secretus> zukalk: And what did you do to solve it ?
[08:26] <NightRider> Hello
[08:27] <mindamp> secretus.. try using synaptic
[08:27] <srijith> dv: can't you just do a ifup when you attach the cable?
[08:27] <Belutz> !java
[08:27] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:27] <srijith> :)
[08:27] <Dizzle> hey guys
[08:27] <mindamp> could someone help with ftpd?
[08:27] <NightRider> I have 4 psyBNC:s running, from different folders, and now I need to shut down one (the correct one) of them
[08:27] <Dizzle> this is a dumb question, but I just installed ubuntu, and it won't let me log on ; ;
[08:27] <zukalk> Secretus, dunno if it's a good solution, but i manually did a dpkg -i --force-overwrite of the .deb that was in the apt cache
[08:27] <Secretus> mindamp: Can't start up synaptic, it asks for my password and when I enter it, the application just doesn't start
[08:27] <NightRider> How do I know which is the right one?
[08:27] <zukalk> Secretus, and it worked
[08:28] <mindamp> ftp help please
[08:28] <mindamp>  /\
[08:28] <apokryphos> Dizzle: well, what's the error
[08:28] <Rebs> any cvscedega champs on?
[08:28] <Secretus> zukalk: I'm very new to linux, if you want, could you list the full command you did it with ?
[08:28] <dv> srijith, if I activate eth0 in the "Network" dialog
[08:28] <Dizzle> apok: it says invalid username and password
[08:28] <dv> does it just that? ifup?
[08:28] <Dizzle> but I never gave it a username or password
[08:28] <roham_> !theme
[08:28] <ubotu> roham_: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:28] <Dizzle> I just installed it..
[08:28] <roham_> !themes
[08:28] <ubotu> well, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[08:28] <srijith> dv: I think so..
[08:28] <apokryphos> Dizzle: in the install, you certainly did....
[08:28] <darkheart> mindamp Have you configured your ftp server at all?
[08:29] <rob^^^> is there a switch to set default screen depth on the livecd?
[08:29] <srijith> dv: I am not much of GUI person
[08:29] <th4_bandit> srijith, can u help us install ubuntu ? it wont pick up this SATA drive
[08:29] <zukalk> Secretus, find the .deb of the new firefox version that you tried to install. it's in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:29] <Rebs> getting a page fault at 0x000000 when i load eq with cvs
[08:29] <srijith> th4_bandit: sorry.. I have no exerience with SATA.. am a pretty lousy person when it comes to hardwares
[08:29] <mindamp> darkheart... why yes
[08:30] <srijith> th4_bandit: just ask the crowd.. maybe they can help
[08:30] <mindamp> is everyone here half retarded?
[08:30] <th4_bandit> crowd???
[08:30] <darkheart> mindamp Only you
[08:30] <mindamp> right
[08:30] <mindamp> ive seen this problem on gentoo before...
[08:30] <mindamp> but vsftpd didn't have it
[08:30] <mindamp> so unemerged the others..
[08:30] <mindamp> but in ubuntu for some reason
[08:30] <th4_bandit> can any one help me with SATA and Ubuntu???
[08:30] <mindamp> they all have this problem
[08:30] <darkheart> mindamp What makes you think someone wants to help you now that you've tried to insinuate that we are all half retarded?
[08:31] <apokryphos> no ops around? Hm.
[08:31] <mindamp> remission?
[08:31] <darkheart> Why don't you go to #gentoo then?
[08:31] <Dizzle> I dont remember giving it a user name though... :(
[08:31] <darkheart> or #proftpd
[08:31] <Secretus> zukalk: And then double click it ?
[08:31] <darkheart> or #vsftpd
[08:31] <mindamp> hah
[08:31] <zukalk> Secretus, no
[08:31] <mindamp> cause this is a ubuntu problem
[08:31] <mindamp> has nothing to do with the ftpd
[08:31] <mindamp> but if you weren't half-retarded...
[08:31] <zukalk> Secretus, just copy/remember that filename
[08:31] <Secretus> ok
[08:32] <DanteAlighieri> mindamp: Half retarded? ;)
[08:32] <apokryphos> mdz Seveas: please ban/kick mindamp
[08:32] <darkheart> mindamp I probably could help you..but..I just don't feel like it now =)
[08:32] <zukalk> Secretus, then open a console and type: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite [filename] .deb
[08:32] <Secretus> ok, i'll try it
[08:32] <mindamp> sure you could
[08:32] <roham_> How do I but transparency and shadows to the menues?
[08:32] <mindamp> retard
[08:32] <mindamp> :-)
[08:32] <DanteAlighieri> !lart mindamp
[08:32] <DanteAlighieri> ;)
[08:32] <mdz> mindamp: calm down, there's no need for that
[08:32] <Secretus> me is retard?
[08:32] <DanteAlighieri> Now your mojo is gone!
[08:32] <zukalk> Secretus, wait, it's /var/cache/apt/archives/[file] .deb
[08:32] <darkmatter> mindamp: retarded? that's slightly..well..rude.
[08:33] <darkheart> LoL
[08:33] <mindamp> is not...
[08:33] <mindamp> just blunt
[08:33] <mindamp> like what i smoked this morning
[08:33] <ReleaseX> anyone have experience installing the latest drivers for orinoco cards?
[08:33] <apokryphos> mindamp: no, just silly.
[08:33] <Secretus> zukalk : Ok
[08:33] <mindamp> cause i knew id have to deal with retards...
[08:33] <DanteAlighieri> mindamp likes the ganja
[08:33] <dv> ok.
[08:33] <apokryphos> :|
[08:33] <tristanmike> you could have said, learning disabled
[08:33] <srijith> th4_bandit: what is the problem as such?
[08:33] <mdz> mindamp: that was a warning
[08:33] <dv> now on to a heavyweight: ati drivers
[08:33] <dv> :
[08:33] <dv> :)
[08:33] <mindamp> what was a warning?
[08:33] <zukalk> Secretus,  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/[filename] .deb
[08:33] <mindamp> ok then...
[08:33] <mindamp> next topic nagios
[08:33] <darkheart> mindamp Keep poking, someone will poke back
[08:33] <th4_bandit> srijith, its no picking up my drive
[08:33] <mindamp> i hope so
[08:33] <roham_> anyone? How do I but transparency and shadows to the menues?
[08:33] <DanteAlighieri> Mindamp is just curious about the incidence of trisomy 21 in #ubuntu, right?
[08:34] <mindamp> i like being poked
[08:34] <DanteAlighieri> Of course, he said "half" retarded...
[08:34] <srijith> th4_bandit: oh.. too low level for me
[08:34] <DanteAlighieri> so I guess maybe one-and-a-halfsomy 21?
[08:34] <Secretus> zukalk I have to go now, but i'll try it again later, thank you very much
[08:34] <zukalk> Secretus, anytime
[08:34] <th4_bandit> srijith, do you know how i can boot qanother kernel?
[08:34] <apokryphos> DanteAlighieri: d'oh.. I must have missed it. That's a.o.k. then ;-)
[08:34] <omp342> i just downloaded ubuntu :)
[08:35] <DanteAlighieri> apokryphos: No, he was being rude, I was just being funny
[08:35] <apokryphos> DanteAlighieri: I know
[08:35] <th4_bandit> srijith, i wanna boot another kenberl at install
[08:35] <srijith> th4_bandit: checked forums? looks like there has been some conv. on this topic/
[08:35] <DanteAlighieri> Damn
[08:35] <mindamp> i have to give people some credit if they manage to get the easiest linux distro installed on their pc and hop on irc right
[08:35] <apokryphos> =)
[08:35] <mindamp> that means they are half their
[08:35] <srijith> grub doesn't list the kernel?
[08:35] <DanteAlighieri> apokryphos: I hate being unable to hear tone of voice in IRC. ;)
[08:35] <mindamp> at least
[08:35] <ReleaseX> anyone have experience installing the latest drivers for orinoco cards?
[08:35] <darkheart> mindamp So what are you doing in #proftpd if you said the ftp issue was an Ubuntu one?
[08:35] <DanteAlighieri> mindamp: you meant "there"... what are you, retarded? ;)
[08:36] <darkheart> lol
[08:36] <srijith> dv: what did you settle on?
[08:37] <Hikaru79> Does anyone know how wireless card support stands in ubuntu? Is it generally auto-detected on install? If not, is there a wiki guide to getting Wireless cards up and running? Thanks =)
[08:37] <th4_bandit> can someone here tell me the command to boot another kernel
[08:37] <dv> disabled the interfaces stuff
[08:37] <Rebs> got my wmp11v2.7 workin~
[08:37] <srijith> th4_bandit: not listed in grub>?
[08:38] <th4_bandit> srijith, no grun its not even installeed yet
[08:38] <srijith> dv: like I did or the rc way?
[08:38] <no_dammagE> Dr_Willis: ok, it worked, but now I'm sitting with a half-broken system - X hasn't been properly installed ...
[08:38] <th4_bandit> srijith, we cant install an OS if it cant pick up the drive
[08:38] <srijith> th4_bandit: opps.. :) what kernel do you want to install?
[08:38] <mindamp> chatting about how half there everyone here is
[08:38] <th4_bandit> srijith, iono i think there is oen that has sata support
[08:39] <th4_bandit> srijith, maybe 2.6 ??
[08:39] <dv> like you did
[08:39] <th4_bandit> srijith, can i list the kernel to boot in the she;;?
[08:39] <th4_bandit> shell**
[08:40] <srijith> th4_bandit: doesn't Hoary come with 2.6.10?
[08:40] <no_dammagE> can someone tell me why I get /usr/bin/X11/X not found while calling statrx / what do I have to install to get X?
[08:40] <jkezar> any reason why the "Screen Resolution" section under "System" only allows me to choose 640x480?
[08:40] <jkezar> is this answered in some ubuntu faq?
[08:40] <th4_bandit> srijith, ??
[08:40] <Rebs> anybody pretty good with cedega?
[08:41] <mindamp> the more and more i use ubuntu... the more i feel like an infant compared to gentoo
[08:41] <jschroed> Go back to gentoo
[08:41] <jschroed> I love having a 4-6% faster system that takes 3 days to compile
[08:41] <srijith> mindamp: try LFS then
[08:41] <mindamp> i mean all the faqs are for X
[08:41] <zukalk> mindamp, you're obviously too l33t for ubuntu
[08:41] <dv> hmm. did apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:41] <darkheart> mindamp LoL I like how you were kicked/banned from #slackware
[08:41] <mindamp> yeh thats it
[08:41] <mindamp> l33t
[08:42] <mindamp> hah
[08:42] <mindamp> i hate slackware too
[08:42] <mindamp> bunch of slackers
[08:42] <th4_bandit> zukalk, can  u help me installing unbuntu with sata drives.. trhey arent being read
[08:42] <srijith> th4_bandit: dont think so.. the installer CD comes with only one kernel
[08:42] <no_dammagE> which pacakge does supply /usr/bin/X11/X?
[08:42] <dv> but now I have to start fglrxconfig, and copy over the xorg.conf settings, or does ubuntu automate this?
[08:42] <jschroed> You should switch to OpenBSD or HP-UX, that might be cool enough for you
[08:42] <srijith> th4_bandit: I think.. but I am know to be pretty wrong, most of the time
[08:42] <zukalk> th4_bandit, i have no idea how, sorry.
[08:42] <th4_bandit> okay
[08:43] <jschroed> My servers run HP-UX :-)
[08:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I add a "terminal" session option at Ubuntu login, instead of "Failsafe terminal"?
[08:43] <th4_bandit> DOES any one here have any expierence with SATA nd UNBUNTU
[08:44] <Rebs> im installed on sata...but my installer had no problem detecting it
[08:44] <Rebs> have a8v deluxe motherboard
[08:44] <Rebs> using promise controller
[08:45] <srijith> th4_bandit: is SATA the only drive on ur box?
[08:45] <darkmatter> mindamp: how about LFS...you hate it to? ;)
[08:45] <darkheart> Awww...I wanted mindamp to get kick/banned..=\
[08:45] <Rebs> * mindamp has quit ("Leaving")\
[08:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I add a "terminal" session option at Ubuntu login, instead of "Failsafe terminal"?
[08:45] <kelsey> bye
[08:45] <darkheart> Rebs That's why I said 'awww'
[08:45] <Gato> hola
[08:45] <AberMatt> does anyone know how you manually delete a package?
[08:45] <jschroed> Rebs: I know that the newest kernel release from kernel.org had alot of SATA improvements. Breezy will likely have better SATA support
[08:46] <Rebs> jschroed, i have no problems with my sata...runs at abuot 1600 and 56 or so using hdparm -tT
[08:46] <srijith> th4_bandit: ?
[08:46] <th4_bandit> srijith, the only hdd
[08:46] <th4_bandit> lol
[08:46] <darkheart> Carpe_Libertatem Do you really need that option? You can just hit ctrl+alt+f2 to switch to another terminal.
[08:46] <srijith> th4_bandit: I asked because of this -> http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/04/10/12/1424244.shtml?tid=127
[08:46] <Carpe_Libertatem> well
[08:46] <Rebs> jschroed, it was th4_bandit who needed help
[08:46] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'd like to have it.
[08:46] <jschroed> Rebs: Oh sorry, CGI IRC through a draconian Pix Firewall
[08:47] <th4_bandit> jschroed, can u help me with SATA?
[08:47] <srijith> th4_bandit: gave breezy a try?
[08:47] <Rebs> jschroed, s'ok, apparently nobody usings cedega here heh
[08:47] <Carpe_Libertatem> I am running Ubuntu inside of VMWare, and I don't need the GUI all the time.
[08:47] <paines> hi
[08:47] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: can't you intit 3 then?
[08:47] <jschroed> I am not a sata expert, I use SCSI and Fibre Channel mostly
[08:47] <darkheart> Carpe_Libertatem Don't know how to do that, sorry. I bet if you googled 'gdm adding menu options' or something like that, you might find something relevent.
[08:47] <roham_> Can somebody help me with Fvwm? I have installed it but dont know how to use it?
[08:47] <roham_> please
[08:47] <paines> i just installed colony 3 (amd64) and everything runs ! GREAT ! THANKS !
[08:48] <Carpe_Libertatem> init 3?
[08:48] <Carpe_Libertatem> =P
[08:48] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: instead of booting into a GUI, boot into CLI
[08:48] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: you want gdm not running?
[08:48] <titaniululz> what do i need to edit to control what happens when the system boots up, ie if i want something done every time i start the system?
[08:48] <meuserj|work> Carpe_Libertatem, you can't do that.. gdm loads an X session.. a terminal is not an X session
[08:48] <roham_> anyone?
[08:48] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[08:48] <Carpe_Libertatem> Right
[08:49] <th4_bandit> srijith, mbreezy>?
[08:49] <HappyFool> titaniululz: look in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh -- you could add stuff there
[08:49] <vitriol> that will keep it from running when you boot
[08:49] <HappyFool> you can also use update-rc.d to disable/enable services (e.g., gdm)
[08:49] <srijith> th4_bandit: the development/next version of Ubuntu
[08:49] <pfp> roham_: what do you want to do with it?
[08:49] <titaniululz> ok. i got bootupmanager but it doesnt seem to really do anything other than turn things on/off... it doesnt let you add things through it
[08:49] <Carpe_Libertatem> all right - and when I want to run it would I just run gdm?
[08:49] <th4_bandit> srijith, nope could u link me/
[08:50] <Carpe_Libertatem> like ./etc/init.d/gdm?
[08:50] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: /etc/init/dgdm start
[08:50] <vitriol> :)
[08:50] <roham_> pfp: I have themes I have downloaded, isnt there any "manager" for fvwm
[08:50] <Carpe_Libertatem> ok
[08:50] <meuserj|work> Carpe_Libertatem, what you COULD do is create an X session that is nothing but a fullscreen Xterm...
[08:50] <Carpe_Libertatem> ty
[08:50] <vitriol> eh you know what i mean
[08:50] <HappyFool> titaniululz: i haven't used BUM -- maybe you need to add an appropriate script to /etc/init.d
[08:50] <HappyFool> /etc/init.d/gdm start won't work if you've chmod -x 'ed it ;)
[08:50] <srijith> th4_bandit: look at the topic.. anyway here you go -> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-August/046217.html
[08:50] <pfp> roham_: vi / emacs :)  - seriously, i'm not sure
[08:50] <HappyFool>  /etc/init.d/gdm start won't work if you've chmod -x 'ed it ;)
[08:50] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: you can also control gdm with rcconf
[08:51] <k1ng_> i cannot get sound to work in ubuntu. I went to ubuntuguide.org and installed multimedia codecs, and followed the isntructions on how to configure sound in gnome, and im not sure what else i can try. any ideas? (I have a Sound Blaster Live! sound card)
[08:51] <roham_> pfp?  heh
[08:51] <Carpe_Libertatem> how do I rever the chmod -x?
[08:51] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[08:51] <Carpe_Libertatem> reverse
[08:51] <darkheart> Carpe_Libertatem +x
[08:51] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: chmod +x
[08:51] <Carpe_Libertatem> =P
[08:51] <Carpe_Libertatem> ok
[08:51] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: it's probably easiest to use rcconf
[08:51] <pfp> roham_: when i used fvwm i used to edit the configuration by hand
[08:51] <srijith> Carpe_Libertatem: what is that you want? boo into a CLI?
[08:51] <srijith> boo=boot
[08:51] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: you can control more than just gdm with rcconf
[08:51] <darkmatter> disabling gdm is great. especially since i use entrance
[08:51] <omp342> if i install ubuntu, i can format the fedora partition and install ubuntu on it from inside the installlation, right?
[08:51] <roham_> pfp it should be a manager
[08:52] <pfp> roham_: wasn't there any documentation w/ the themes... maybe they are conf file snippets that can be included in .fvwm2rc or something
[08:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> vitriol - yes
[08:52] <titaniululz> if i just want to call "/etc/init.d/proftpd start" on boot, what would be the easiest way?
[08:52] <srijith> omp342: clean install? sure
[08:52] <vitriol> titaniululz: install rcconf :)
[08:52] <roham_> pfp no no doc
[08:52] <omp342> no im on a dual boot with windows xp
[08:52] <HappyFool> titaniululz: look at 'update-rc.d'
[08:52] <pfp> roham_: well, fvwm isn't really the most intuitive wm
[08:53] <titaniululz> HappyFool, where is that?
[08:53] <vitriol> titaniululz: you can control what is started during bootup with rcconf...
[08:53] <srijith> omp342: i mean you don't need FC and Ubuntu and XP right?
[08:53] <meuserj|work> titaniululz, update-rc.d proftpd defaults
[08:53] <titaniululz> vitriol, i can do it manually just as easily i guess
[08:53] <HappyFool> titaniululz: 'man update-rc.d'  -- it should be installed already
[08:53] <Ex-Cyber> how can I find out what transmission rate a serial port is set to?
[08:53] <darkmatter> pfp: twm is. :P
[08:53] <omp342> i basically want to replace fedora with ubuntu
[08:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> apt-get rccf will work?
[08:53] <omp342> and leave xp unchanged
[08:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> er
[08:53] <pfp> darkmatter lol
[08:53] <Carpe_Libertatem> rcconf
[08:54] <titaniululz> so "update-rc.d proftpd start" ?
[08:54] <HappyFool> defaults
[08:54] <HappyFool> not start
[08:54] <meuserj|work> omp342, yes.. you can do that
[08:54] <titaniululz> oh ok
[08:54] <srijith> omp342: sure you can thrash the parition.. :) YOu can also decide to carry forward your /home if that is on a different parition and resue them on Ubuntu
[08:54] <HappyFool> you can use invoke-rc.d to start/stop a service
[08:54] <vitriol> Carpe_Libertatem: apt-get install rcconf
[08:54] <meuserj|work> as root.. so "sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults"
[08:54] <skora> hi - in gnome, my bottom applet is no longer working.
[08:54] <srijith> s/resue/reuse
[08:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[08:54] <vitriol> you can use it to control gdm, entrance, acpi, apm and a bunch of other stuff
[08:54] <titaniululz> going to check if it worked, brb
[08:55] <DanteAlighieri> Anyone else having problems with /.?
[08:55] <darkmatter> Hello EnsignRedShirt
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> I am setting up an external hard drive as a backup.  Any reason I shouldn't use ext3 for the filesystem?
[08:55] <omp342> and when i do that
[08:55] <omp342> will ubuntu replace the fedora bootloader with a new one?
[08:55] <ompaul> middle button issues in breezy?
[08:55] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: i prefer fat32 for my external hard drive
[08:55] <roham_> pfp what should I use to get a nice wm? with menu shadows and trans.
[08:55] <roham_> psp :P
[08:55] <srijith> omp342: yes
[08:56] <omp342> okay
[08:56] <omp342> :)
[08:56] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: you can do back-ups for mac, linux and windows on that one drive with fat32
[08:56] <srijith> omp342: personal exprience ..
[08:56] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: but if you're just doing back-ups for a linux machine and nothing else ext3 would be fine
[08:56] <Impulse29> how can I use my non-standard monitor resolution with ubuntu?
[08:56] <vitriol> fat32 has read/write support on just about every platform
[08:57] <vitriol> Impulse29: what res?
[08:57] <Impulse29> vitriol, 1024x800
[08:57] <omp342> i dont have anymore CD-Rs.. =/ im gonna have to waste a dvd-r :D
[08:57] <srijith> vitriol: but it doesn support file locking etc..
[08:58] <vitriol> Impulse29: you can manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make that your resolution
[08:58] <meuserj|work> Impulse29, woah... that's a weird resolution...
[08:58] <Impulse29> yah, dell i6000
[08:58] <EnsignRedshirt> vitriol: Two questions: Is fat32 the same as vfat? (The drive came preformatted, and mount it with -t auto, it shows up as vfat.)  Does fat32 have any restrictions on filenames?
[08:58] <pfp> roham_: well, i've been quite happy ever since i switched to gnome and whatever-it-was-this-default-wm-is-called.... it's actually nice when you can't / don't have to tune every detail :)
[08:58] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: i think vfat is the same
[08:58] <vitriol> as fat32
[08:58] <pfp> roham_: if you want eye candy, maybe enlightenment is for you
[08:58] <meuserj|work> EnsignRedshirt, yes fat32 == vfat
[08:58] <keyshawn> ahh man, i lost my xchat window because I minimized it - i cant see if anyone had any responses or not [cant check log file, ill lose my window again] 
[08:58] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: you mean file name length? i don't know
[08:58] <meuserj|work> roham_, enlightenment 17 is beautiful
[08:59] <EnsignRedshirt> meuserj|work: Thanks.
[08:59] <a1zi> hey
[08:59] <a1zi> hey
[08:59] <EnsignRedshirt> vitriol: Yes, restriction on file name length, case, etc.
[08:59] <roham_> meuserj|work how does it work? is it under gnome?
[08:59] <a1zi> is there a program to back up your linux system like NORTON GHOST does for windows?
[08:59] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: no restriction on upper case, lower case and special characters.....
[09:00] <roham_> pfp is it easy to use? like its for gnome... gnome is really easy to use
[09:00] <omp342> is ext3 the right partition type?
[09:00] <a1zi> is there a program to back up your linux system like NORTON GHOST does for windows?
[09:00] <vitriol> EnsignRedshirt: there probably is a restriction on file name length in fat32, but i don't know what it is
[09:00] <roham_> pfp I be right back need to logout / login
[09:00] <srijith> fat32 != vfat
[09:00] <jschroed> a1zi: SystemImager is one, there are several others
[09:00] <pfp> omp342: yes, almost always
[09:00] <meuserj|work> roham_, no.. it's something that runs seperately.. and E17 isn't released yet, so you would either have to compile it from source or find someone who has made packages for it.
[09:00] <omp342> ok
[09:00] <a1zi> jschroed, is it free?
[09:00] <jeremy123> whats the command to change your password
[09:00] <srijith> omp342: unless you want bleeding edge ...
[09:00] <jeremy123> i forgot
[09:01] <apokryphos> jeremy123: passwd
[09:01] <srijith> jeremy123: passwd
[09:01] <srijith> opps :)
[09:01] <jeremy123> thanks bye
[09:01] <zukalk> meuserj|work, i've installed Enlightenment through apt-get, but it doesn't show up in the GDM logon screen
[09:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Can a mac read ext3?
[09:01] <DanteAlighieri> !start an editor war
[09:01] <ubotu> notepad is better than xemacs
[09:01] <alexis_> hi
[09:01] <omp342> and one other question: is the setup process different when installing on a SATA harddrive?
[09:02] <roham_> pfp where can I find it?
[09:02] <EnsignRedshirt> ubotu: Right on.
[09:02] <ubotu> EnsignRedshirt: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> !pfp
[09:02] <ubotu> DanteAlighieri: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:02] <equex> is there a list somewhere with the improvements/changes in breezy?
[09:02] <k1ng_> can someone help me get my sound working?
[09:02] <apokryphos> !breezy
[09:02] <ubotu> somebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> ubtotu doesn't know about pfp apparently...
[09:02] <srijith> omp342: someone earlier was having trouble with SATA hdd
[09:02] <equex> ty
[09:02] <omp342> =/
[09:02] <mjr> omp342, not really, unless there's some problem of course
[09:02] <pfp> :O
[09:02] <roham_> hehe
[09:02] <omp342> for example, for fedora all i did was a normal install
[09:02] <DanteAlighieri> I'm trying to get 4 SATA drives hooked up via a PCI-E SATA RAID card
[09:02] <omp342> it didnt even ask me a question about a SATA hard drive
[09:02] <tenco_> how can i prevent kernel modules from being loaded?
[09:03] <srijith> omp342: looks like you are a good test case for Ubuntu :)
[09:03] <meuserj|work> zukalk, yeah.. the package doesn't install a session for it... you can make one yourself.. but I'm not sure where it needs to live.  It's been a while since I've had to do that.
[09:03] <pfp> roham_: apt-get install enlightenment
[09:03] <vitriol> tenco_: comment the module out in /etc/modules
[09:03] <Impulse29> vitriol, when the live loads, it says "error : temporary failure in name resolution"
[09:03] <tenco_> vitriol: its not in there
[09:03] <vitriol> tenco_: then it shouldn't be loading
[09:03] <roham_> pfp is it easy to use?
[09:03] <pfp> roham_: enlightenment is prolly the complete antithesis of fvwm :)
[09:03] <vitriol> tenco_: all modules are listed in there
[09:03] <zukalk> meuserj|work, okay, i'll do some googling later
[09:03] <tenco_> vitriol: no
[09:03] <DanteAlighieri> Seriously though, anyone know what's wrong with slashdot?
[09:04] <k1ng_> I have a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 card, and i've installed multimedia codexs already (ubuntuguide.org) but I still can't get sound working. Any idas?
[09:04] <pfp> roham_: hard to say, prolly yes, though it's a few years since i tried it
[09:04] <tenco_> vitriol: wlan, ath_* are loaded but not in /etc/modules
[09:04] <vitriol> ooohhh
[09:04] <roham_> pfp: but is it like a manager thing with it? :P
[09:04] <omp342> im burning it right now
[09:04] <vitriol> tenco_: is this ndiswrapper stuff?
[09:04] <roham_> pfp: really new @ linux sorry for stupid questions :P
[09:05] <tenco_> vitriol: no
[09:05] <omp342> it should finish burning in 2 minutes :)
[09:05] <pfp> roham_: heh, check the project's home page :)
[09:05] <srijith> omp342: burning what?
[09:05] <omp342> ubuntu cd
[09:05] <tenco_> vitriol: i want to prevent the kernel from loading wlan and ath_* modules so that these modules do not interfere with ndiswrapper
[09:05] <roham_> !enlightenment
[09:05] <ubotu> [enlightenment]  at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105
[09:05] <vitriol> tenco_: you can turn those NIC's off in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:06] <vitriol> beyone that i don't know
[09:06] <roham_> pfp: last question how do I install a icon pack? its in a zip file...
[09:06] <omp342> i ordered a free copy from the website since my internet connection isnt fast, but i couldnt wait so i just downloaded the iso (too 4 hours) :)
[09:06] <vitriol> but surely one of the 495 people in here can help you :)
[09:06] <omp342> took*
[09:06] <tenco_> vitriol: the only interfaces in interfaces(5) are lo and wlan0 (<- ndiswrapper)
[09:06] <meuserj|work> roham_, I believe all you have to do is unpack it in a directory in /usr/share/icons
[09:07] <srijith> omp342: I remember I ordered one a loong loong time ago and it never arrived.. :)
[09:07] <gmoore> a
[09:07] <vitriol> tenco_: wlan0 is loaded through ndiswrapper?
[09:07] <tenco_> vitriol: yes.
[09:07] <roham_> meuserj: thx
[09:07] <vitriol> tenco_: there is a flag to ndiswrapper to uninstall a driver or disable it
[09:07] <srijith> omp342: so you might be better off just burning one.. as you are doing niw
[09:07] <vitriol> tenco_: i don't remember what it is but ndiswrapper -h will tell you
[09:07] <alexis_> i've got problems with my desktop, I can't be more than 1024x768 why? (sorry for my english)
[09:08] <srijith> alexis_, video card limitation?
[09:08] <gmoore> i manually made a user and a group for use with an ftp server i've since uninstalled; is it safe to just leave the user/group or should i remove them?
[09:08] <tenco_> vitriol: no. ath is a linux kernel driver
[09:08] <liran> how do i install those transparent cpu/weather bars on the desktop?
[09:08] <ompaul> !tell alexis_ about resolution
[09:08] <srijith> gmoore: why not delete them.. safer :)
[09:08] <liran> i thought that adding them to the panel on gnome is what i wanted, but it isnt.
[09:08] <ompaul> alexis that should help you
[09:08] <vitriol> tenco_: ath? via madwifi?
[09:08] <tenco_> vitriol: yes
[09:08] <omp342> yah its done burning
[09:09] <vitriol> tenco_: i haven't had any of those :\ never used madwifi before
[09:09] <srijith> omp342: let us know how it goes
[09:09] <alexis_> ok thx
[09:09] <tenco_> vitriol: ok
[09:09] <tenco_> vitriol: thanks anyway
[09:09] <AberMatt> !tell abermatt about resolution
[09:09] <omp342> should i format the fedora partition in ubuntu setup or in partitionmagic?
[09:09] <ompaul> omp342, are you replacing fedora with Ubuntu?
[09:09] <gmoore> ok i made them with 'groupadd' and 'useradd'... can i just 'groupdel' or something similar?
[09:10] <omp342> yes
[09:10] <srijith> omp342: if you are thrashing FC, just use Ubuntu setup
[09:10] <ompaul> omp342, so it should be Ubuntu then :)0
[09:10] <omp342> okay
[09:10] <chrismy> hi guys which newest PHP and mySQL i should install? i am setting up my website :D
[09:10] <meuserj|work> omp342, whatever you prefer.. you can format with more filesystem types if you use the ubuntu partitioner though
[09:10] <HappyFool> !lamp
[09:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:10] <gmoore> chrismy: i just set up apache2 + php4 + mysql4 and it works
[09:10] <chrismy> ompaul, hi there
[09:10] <omp342> im gonna try installing now, ill be back after im done
[09:10] <kevin_> hey how do i use nuatilus cd burner?
[09:11] <ompaul> hi chrismy
[09:11] <gmoore> chrismy: follow obotu
[09:11] <kevin_> like it says its installed
[09:11] <srijith> gmoore: man groupdel
[09:11] <kevin_> but where is it at?
[09:11] <gmoore> srijith: thanks
[09:11] <chrismy> gmoore, yes i know lamp and i am running apache2 now. but i just do not know which php and mysql to pick. there are a list of that
[09:11] <HappyFool> read the wiki page
[09:12] <gmoore> chrismy: it says on lamp, php4 mysql4
[09:12] <chrismy> HappyFool, yes just saw that
[09:12] <liran> how do i install those transparent cpu/weather bars on the desktop? i thought that adding them to the panel on gnome is what i wanted, but it isnt.
[09:12] <bronco> how can I add ndiswrapper so it starts up automatically?
[09:12] <liran> bronco, man update-rc.d
[09:13] <HappyFool> !ndiswrapper
[09:13] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:13] <ReleaseX> bronco, ndiswrapper -m
[09:14] <tenco_> vitriol: found it -> /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[09:14] <x_or> Is there a good Gnome RTF reader?  OpenOffice is too bloated.
[09:14] <vitriol> tenco_: oohh congrats
[09:14] <Alrighta> Guys, I have 2 OS's installed - Windows and Linux. I want to delete my Windows partition and add the unallocated space to my linux partition - however, in GParted, I cannot edit anything in my linux partition, it has a "lock" icon to the right of the partition. Windows - NTFS, Linux - ext3
[09:14] <Alrighta> What should I do?
[09:15] <srijith> liran: looking for GKrellM?
[09:15] <capi> Anyone know a good ftp server with strong support for virtual users
[09:15] <gmoore> capi: i just installed proftpd and im configuring it now using gproftpd graphic frontend and it works well
[09:15] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, you can't resize a partition that is mounted
[09:16] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, the way I get around that is make a custom ubuntu cd with gparted on it.
[09:16] <chrismy> gmoore, thanks i am reading that page..amazing ;P
[09:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> Can anyone tell me how to create a usergroup where all users will have similar restrictions? I want their disc quotas to be about 10mb, only access their home directories, (like, /home/paulyboy/), and run only 4 processes.
[09:16] <HappyFool> maybe something like knoppix has gparted/qparted
[09:16] <liran> srijith, thanks ill look it up in synaptic
[09:16] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, live cd that is
[09:16] <cloudreader> Alrighta: or put gparted on a usb drive and boot with alive cd
[09:16] <capi> gmoore, not a fan of proftpds virtual users, I like vsftpd's control more but it doesn't satisfy me either.
[09:16] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, I'm a newbie - can you tell me please what mounting is?
[09:17] <Alrighta> I have Knoppix live CD
[09:17] <Exo0dus> #ubuntu-es
[09:17] <gmoore> capi: why dont you like it
[09:17] <vitriol> Alrighta: if you are reading and writing to and from a partition, it is mounted
[09:17] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, it means the drive is being used.. kinda...
[09:18] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, but just because you aren't reading/writing to the partition at the moment.. it is still mounted unless you explicitly unmount it
[09:18] <Alrighta> So "unmounting" my linux partition will mean I wouldn't be able to 'use' it?
[09:18] <vitriol> Alrighta: the command to unmount a partition is unmound /path/to/partition
[09:18] <vitriol> Alrighta: to unmount it, you would have to be logged out and not using the partition
[09:18] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, right.. so you obviously can't unmount the root partition
[09:18] <srijith> any fluxbox users?
[09:18] <Alrighta> I see. Well, so I'll just use my Knoppix live CD.
[09:19] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, that'll work
[09:19] <vitriol> Alrighta: yes, but does the knoppix cd have gparted on it?
[09:19] <kevin_> what decoder do i need to downlod in order to play mp3 and wmv files?
[09:19] <HappyFool> !restricted
[09:19] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:19] <Alrighta> vitriol, I really hope so.
[09:19] <HappyFool> check for qparted as well; i think knoppix is kde-based
[09:19] <filip_> where can i look what harddrive i have in ubuntu ?
[09:19] <srijith> I kneel before Wine.. it runs Photoshop!
[09:20] <HappyFool> filip_: 'sudo fdisk -l' will tell you all partitions ubuntu can find; not sure if that's what you want
[09:20] <Alrighta> Btw, is there any way to "format" linux? I always just delete my partition, is that alright?
[09:20] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, it is also pretty easy for an experienced user to make a custom ubuntu live cd.... if you can find someone to make one for you... I would do it for you, but I'm at work right now.
[09:20] <omp342> the installation is having trouble reading my cd, i think its because i ran out of cd-rs and burned it on a dvd-r =/
[09:20] <capi> gmoore, I'm looking for a proftpd server that is based on virtual users. If I remember correctly proftpd works by masking a local users name with a virtual user.
[09:20] <filip_> HappyFool: i will check that
[09:20] <srijith> omp342: hmm.. shouldn't it be able to?
[09:21] <titaniululz> capi, (this is gmoore) i thought they all worked like that?
[09:21] <omp342> i dont know..
[09:21] <omp342> when the instalation starts
[09:21] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, I will remember that ;o
[09:21] <omp342> after a few questions
[09:21] <Alrighta> :)
[09:21] <srijith> I thought the install should work with DVDs...
[09:21] <omp342> when it wants to start copying files
[09:21] <omp342> it doesnt work
[09:21] <omp342> well, i dont have the dvd version of the iso
[09:22] <omp342> i burned the cd version on a dvd
[09:22] <omp342> i know it worked on fedora
[09:22] <capi> titaniululz, all of them I've seen do that. I was just wondering if anyone knew one that does things differently.
[09:22] <omp342> but its not working here
[09:22] <srijith> omp342: oh ok.. never tried  than combo
[09:22] <kevin_> Can anyone help me? What decoder do i need to get in oreder to play mp3 files?
[09:22] <Alrighta> Btw, guys, why can't I hear music decently? Although I have sound, my mp3's(as well as Audio CDs) sounds terrible. Any ideas?
[09:22] <titaniululz> capi, ah, ok. :)
[09:22] <Impulse29> vitriol, I couldn't find that file I need to modify
[09:22] <oferet> srijith and pfp,  sorry for the delay as I took a break. But the problem is the same one. An error was returned while trying to install teh kernel into the target system
[09:22] <srijith> !restricted
[09:22] <oferet> any ideas?
[09:22] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <filip_> No sudo fdisk -l does not give me the information i whant, i need to check if i have an IDE or S-ata harddrive.
[09:22] <erb> hello
[09:22] <srijith> kevin_, check the link above
[09:22] <kevin_> what link>
[09:23] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, make sure your PCM volume isn't too high.. it should only be about 56-60%
[09:23] <EnsignRedshirt> !tell kevin_ about restricted
[09:23] <meuserj|work> err 50-60 is what I meant
[09:23] <srijith> oferet: what the heck.. hmm
[09:23] <titaniululz> filip_, look at the cable and if it's a large flat ribbon like the one connected to your cd drive it's ide, if it's a tiny ribbon less than an inch wide it's sata
[09:23] <srijith> oferet: ever installed any linux on that box before?
[09:23] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, PCM volume?
[09:23] <srijith> kevin_, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <filip_> okey uhm how long is an inch in centimeter?
[09:23] <HappyFool> meuserj|work: really? i didn't know that
[09:23] <titaniululz> 2.5
[09:23] <oferet> no
[09:23] <erb> how can i enable my mouse wheels?
[09:23] <oferet> never
[09:24] <oferet> srijith, never
[09:24] <capi> titaniululz, I haven'ts tried proftpd in a while, does it let you alter the permissions of each virtual user?
[09:24] <srijith> oferet: this happens during the install process right?
[09:24] <titaniululz> filip_, google image search for ide cable and sata cable to see what they look like
[09:24] <omp342> im gonna try installing again
[09:24] <roham_> enlightenment dosnt work for me... and why cant gnome have shadows under menues?
[09:24] <oferet> strijith: yes
[09:24] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, right click on your little speaker applet on the top right corner and open the volume control
[09:24] <filip_> okey i will :=)
[09:25] <titaniululz> capi, yes. you can do it through the config apache-style or you can do it with gproftpd (GTK+ frontend, which i'm using right now) and set each user to different permissions, directories, etc
[09:25] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, or run gnome-volume-control
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[09:25] <titaniululz> capi, eg i have an upload user who can only go to /mnt/storage/ftp/upload/ and can upload, append, and create dirs, as well as a 'website' user that can only go to /mnt/storage/www/ and has full access (read/write)
[09:25] <oferet> srijith: it says that there is a log I could check. if I'd get it would that help ?
[09:25] <omp342> ok its booting from cd now im entering setup
[09:26] <srijith> oferet: I guess so.. can't promise anything
[09:26] <frank_bb> can anyone help me with a problem installing themes in WindowMaker?
[09:26] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, alright, though, I don't see the % ...
[09:26] <srijith> omp342: fingers crossed :)
[09:26] <oferet> srijith: no, you gotta promise !!! :) j/k
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> oh new language pack on breezy
[09:26] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, I just mean it shouldn't be much more than halfway up.
[09:26] <omp342> ya it couldnt read it
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> maybe this will make spellcheck work in openoffice again
[09:26] <omp342> ill try doing it from my other drive
[09:26] <roham_> pfp ya here?
[09:26] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, well, it was up the highest
[09:27] <filip_> now i whant everybody here listen to me, i have had ubuntu for some days and there had been some problems but now they all is fixed but the point tha damn fast help you get here in the irc. that makes Ubuntu far better then Windows.
[09:27] <chrismy> ompaul, you have a server of your own?
[09:27] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, that may be part of your problem then
[09:27] <pfp> roham_: still, for a while
[09:27] <roham_> pfp: dosnt work that easy they made it on the forum
[09:27] <srijith> filip_, preaching to the converted? :)
[09:27] <roham_> !enlightenment
[09:27] <ubotu> enlightenment is, like, at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105
[09:27] <titaniululz> filip_, :)
[09:27] <oferet> pfp, have you heard of my progress with the install process ?
[09:27] <omp342> ok im trying again, this time with my other drive
[09:27] <roham_> pfp. in there ^
[09:28] <srijith> roham_: pfp mia i think .. :)
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> I theorize that somebody needs the fuck smacked out of them, probably somebody who wrote a library
[09:28] <filip_> srijith: what you meen i am not that good att english.
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> because evince keeps crashing and I'll bet a library it uses that's "Compatible" with the older version isn't.
[09:28] <oferet> srijith: is there something particular I should look for  ?
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> (it won't even start)
[09:28] <meuserj|work> man.. upgrading to breezy takes a long time.. especially when you have both ubuntu and kubuntu installed.....
[09:28] <srijith> filip_: we all already agree Linux (Ubuntu) better than windows, at least most of us..
[09:29] <omp342> hmm ill have to wait until i can get cd-r's =/
[09:29] <srijith> oferet: hmm.. "error' or something like that?
[09:29] <filip_> hehe okey
[09:29] <filip_> i agree
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> meuserj|work:  careful with breezy
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> it's shakey.
[09:29] <erb> somebody, im using U510, and my mouse wheel doesnt works
[09:29] <srijith> bluefoxicy: like a breeze..
[09:29] <srijith> ;)
[09:29] <chrismy> anyone knows how to code defensively?
[09:29] <filip_> btw i get an IDE cabel :)
[09:29] <pfp> oferet: uh yeah :)
[09:29] <titaniululz> the only thing ubuntu is really missing is driver support as complete as windows. say what you want but every damn soundcard you can name just works in windows xp; can't say the same for ubuntu (although i know it uses ALSA and they're the ones lagging behind ;)   )
[09:29] <Carpe_Libertatem> I need some help setting up user/group permissions in Linux. Can someome please assist?
[09:29] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, thanks. It was the problem
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> does anyone know what ggv is?
[09:29] <meuserj|work> bluefoxicy, I'm not exactly new at this.... been using Linux exclusively for 7-8 years...
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> xpdf doesn't work and evince crashes
[09:30] <srijith> ggv = postscript viewer
[09:30] <pfp> roham_: oh, dear, that 17 version is unsupported afaik, hence the compilcated process
[09:30] <oferet> pfp: suggest
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> xpdf dies because it's missing a library
[09:30] <omp342> ok ill be back in 2 minutes, i'm gonna join the channel with my computer
[09:30] <oferet> pfp: suggestions ?
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> xpdf: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:30] <pfp> oferet: umm
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> srijith:  yes, very estute.  And it's not installed in breezy.
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> srijith:  and it's not in package 'ggv'
[09:30] <pfp> oferet: there are messages / logs on alt-f3, alt-f4 etc... getting those would help
[09:31] <sorush20> what is good international clock program for linux
[09:31] <srijith> "yes, very estute." was that an attempt at sarcasm?
[09:31] <pfp> roham_: did you try installing it simply with synaptic or apt-get ?
[09:31] <meuserj|work> bluefoxicy, I take it you are running breezy...
[09:31] <meuserj|work> bluefoxicy, cause I hit the libXp missing problem too on my home machine.
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> very estute, did you fix it?
[09:32] <oferet> pfp, I am looking at the messages file.. is there something I should focus on there ?
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> oh god ggv renders like ass.
[09:32] <roham_> apt-get
[09:32] <meuserj|work> meuserj|work, unfortunately no.. the package is missing in breezy currently.. and yes, ggv blows
[09:32] <roham_> pfp: apt-get...
[09:33] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know of a way to put the switchbar in XChat on the top of the window?
[09:33] <oferet> pfp: for example the last line says that Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned and error code (1)
[09:33] <DrPepper> how can I get *-dev packages... Is there a special repository?
[09:33] <pfp> oferet: messages from grub i think, or any arrors
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> meuserj|work:  great.  Well I'll assume it looks fine and send it to my prospective employer, some security firm I did a pen test with.  :/
[09:33] <oferet> ls
[09:33] <sorush20> what is the version after breezy going to be..
[09:33] <Concord_Dawn> DrPepper, no. They're in the repos same as the normal packages.
[09:33] <pfp> oferet: hmm lines before that i think
[09:33] <muffin_> help!!! can't update azureus "(<unknown>:8135): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Veraltete Funktion. nderungen an der MIME-Datenbank durch den Benutzer werden nicht mehr untersttzt."
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> sorush20:  Horny.  :)
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> sorush20:  Horny Toad  :)
[09:33] <pfp> roham_: are you familiar with apt-get
[09:33] <sorush20> what is the financial state of Ubuntu at the moment..
[09:33] <vitriol> badger badger badger....snake!!
[09:33] <Concord_Dawn> Horny Hedgehog HAHAHAHA
[09:33] <sorush20> bluefoxicy: really..
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> sorush20:  no, not really; frogs suck.
[09:34] <DrPepper> i should be doing something really stupid since I dont see them
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> I want a Friendly Fox or something
[09:34] <roham_> pfp no not sooo much... but I wrote that u told me
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> Fuzzy!
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> Fuzzy Foxie!
[09:35] <vitriol> hopefully the next version won't be named after a sloth
[09:35] <omp342> why do they have all these weird names? :)
[09:35] <oferet> pfp: what hsould I look for ? (any clues)
[09:35] <srijith> omp342: not to get sued?
[09:35] <srijith> omp342: rerember Mozilla phoenix?
[09:35] <vitriol> yes lindows was already taken
[09:35] <omp342> why do they name it after an animal in the first place ;)
[09:36] <muffin_> help!!! can't update azureus "(<unknown>:8135): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: too old function. Changes by user in the  MIME-Database are not supported."
[09:36] <pfp> roham_: in a terminal, you have to add sudo in front of it
[09:36] <sorush20> is Ubuntu making prfits..
[09:36] <pfp> oferet: uh
[09:37] <Ng> sorush20: I don't think they sell anything, so that would be quite hard ;)
[09:37] <srijith> oferet: how big is the log?
[09:37] <oferet> very big
[09:37] <meuserj|work> sorush20, from what I understand Shuttleworth makes enough money on his own that he doesn't care if canonical makes a profit.
[09:37] <sorush20> Ng: they sell Ubuntu support that is a profit..
[09:37] <omp342> it probably loses money
[09:37] <omp342> from all the bandwith
[09:38] <omp342> to download the iso's
[09:38] <omp342> and shipping cd's
[09:38] <omp342> etc.
[09:38] <Ng> sorush20: they certainly offer it, but has anyone bought yet? ;)
[09:38] <oferet> srijith: I just noticed this error: E:Read error - read (5 Input/output error)
[09:38] <Ng> meuserj|work: yeah, istr he said he wouldn't complain if it made money, but wasn't doing it for the cash
[09:38] <srijith> oferet: hmm.. a hard disk problem?
[09:38] <omp342> they do sell clothes and accept donations :P
[09:39] <srijith> oferet: u had any other OS installed on this?
[09:39] <Impulse29> anyone know how I can use my non-standard resolution?
[09:39] <oferet> E: prior errors apply to /cdrom/pool/main/l/linux-srouce-2.6.10/linux-images2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb
[09:39] <meuserj|work> sorush20, at his Debconf talk he explained that he makes more money than all the other linux vendor combined.. so he really doesn't care about profit.
[09:39] <roham_> pfp yes
[09:39] <oferet> I have the feeling that the cds might be damaged
[09:39] <oferet> is that right ?
[09:39] <roham_> pfp its installed
[09:39] <roham_> pfp I can see it in synaptic
[09:39] <pfp> roham_: good good
[09:40] <srijith> oferet: either CD or the HDD
[09:40] <agraupe> does the ubuntu i386 kernel have support for the HFS filesystem by default?
[09:40] <pfp> roham_: it should be available in at the login screen
[09:40] <oferet> srijith: I'll reburn the cd then and we'll see how it works.
[09:40] <srijith> oferet: burn at a low speed..
[09:41] <muffin_> help!!! can't update azureus... Error loading plugin 'azupdater' / 'org.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterUpdateChecke r;org.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterPatcher' : java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: o rg.gudy.azureus2.update.UpdaterPatcher
[09:41] <roham_> pfp I know but it isnt... I cant choose it... its only gnome in sessions
[09:41] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, do you remember me? :) I'm right now under Knoppix and using qtparted, however, when I try to delete my Windows partition, it says that it is mounted... What should I do...?
[09:41] <srijith> muffin_: not much good will come by repeating..
[09:41] <meuserj|work> agraupe, I think so.. there is a hfs.ko module...
[09:42] <muffin_> srijith, i had other experiences in this channel. besides... its a new postr
[09:42] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, you need to unmount it then
[09:42] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, how to do so?
[09:43] <pippin> http://pippin.gimp.org/tmp/apt_get_install_fam.png uhhh
[09:43] <pfp> roham_: ok, then you can choose to start it by doing this in a terminal: echo enlightenment > ~/.xsession ;  chmod a+x ~/.xsession
[09:43] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, the "df" command will tell you what devices are mounted, and do "umount /dev/hda1" and replace hda1 with the device name of your windows partion
[09:43] <pfp> roham_: to remove it, remove that ~/.xsession file
[09:44] <Ng> pippin: why are you trying to install fam?
[09:44] <John> Where is the archive modprobe.conf?
[09:44] <pippin> Ng: compiling something,. that needs fam/the fam client library
[09:44] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, lol, it says command not found
[09:45] <Ng> pippin: I'm pretty sure fam is deprecated now, ubuntu uses gamin
[09:45] <meuserj|work> for which command?
[09:45] <celtic> hi
[09:45] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, for which command?
[09:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I set disc quotas for a group or a user?
[09:45] <pippin> Ng: and they cannot coexist?
[09:45] <srijith> Alrighta: sudo  umount
[09:45] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, unmount.
[09:45] <celtic> can anyone help me_
[09:45] <meuserj|work> Alrighta, it's "umount" not "unmount"
[09:45] <Ng> pippin: I'm not sure, you could probably install fam by hand, but doing it with apt will cause a conflict and lots of removals
[09:45] <kezz> Carpe_Libertatem, man ulimit (i think)
[09:45] <srijith> not unmount.. "umount"
[09:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's the prob cetic?
[09:46] <ivanc_> hi
[09:46] <Ng> pippin: might be worth investigating if whatever you are compiling can use gamin instead too :)
[09:46] <Carpe_Libertatem> kezz - what's the syntax for the amount and user, like... "ulimit man bob 10000" ?
[09:46] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, lol, okay, it worked
[09:46] <roham_> pfp: in usr/share/xsessions?
[09:46] <celtic> just installe ubuntu... how can i see files on NTFS filesystem (windows disk)
[09:46] <pippin> Ng: then it'll be two pieces of bitrotted code to fix until 10.15 CET tomorrow,. some of my own stuff,. and this stuff <g>
[09:46] <ivanc_> I'he downloaded the last iso cd for power pc ( 3 times ) and result corrupt
[09:47] <kezz> Carpe_Libertatem, sorry i don't know the man page or google will though
[09:47] <srijith> celtic, u can only read, not write into nfts..
[09:47] <pfp> roham_: a file called .xsession in your home directory
[09:47] <Ng> pippin: hehe, well grab a fam tarball and see what happens ;)
[09:47] <celtic> where can i find those files
[09:47] <srijith> celtic: you need to mount them..
[09:47] <celtic> hmm...
[09:48] <srijith> celtic: cd /mnt
[09:48] <pippin> Ng: this is not even supposed to be my development machine,. which is why it runs ubuntu
[09:48] <celtic> but can you tell me how_
[09:48] <celtic> or where
[09:48] <srijith> celtic: sudo mkdir nfts
[09:48] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, okay - I cannot resize my linux partition(ext3) but I can resize my "extended" one. should I resize that? it's the same partition and holds the same space
[09:48] <pippin> Ng: well,. what the heck ;] 
[09:48] <Alrighta> meuserj|work, okay, delete that - after deleting my windows parition, I cannot do anything
[09:48] <srijith> celtic: mount /dev/hdax /mnt/nfts       where hdax is your ntfs partition
[09:49] <celtic> hmm
[09:49] <celtic> where should i insert it...
[09:49] <srijith> celtic: insert what?
[09:49] <celtic> have used slackware... but in ubunto i cant find command line
[09:50] <ivanc_> ctrl+alt+f1
[09:50] <celtic> or whatever it is called
[09:50] <srijith> right click, open terminal?
[09:50] <ivanc_> run -> gnome-terminal
[09:50] <srijith> celtic: just shutdown my Ubuntu laptop.. so can't help with specific instructions
[09:52] <srijith> night all.. off I go
[09:53] <ivanc_> I  can't download any "install" iso  for power pc while are corrupt ... help me please! any idea...
[09:54] <PhantomFreak> Is there a bash command for displaying a error message in a window in gnome?
[09:54] <Alrighta> Guys, I'm running under Knoppix and using qtparted - I have some free space which I wanna add to my Ubuntu linux partition - however, for some reason, I cannot edit my linux partition and add the free unallocated space which came due to my Windows partition delete... What should I do?
[09:56] <ivanc_> Alrighta: how many primary partition do you have?
[09:56] <Alrighta> ivanc_, none, my primary one was the windows NTFS.
[09:57] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: maybe gdialog
[09:57] <spola> when i try to burn a cdrom from within nautilus, it gives an error while creating the ISO, saying (of course it's not very clear because it's !(&! "translated" to "dutch") that there is a "wrongly encoded character stream"... whats up with that? can i temporarely put ubuntu in english mode so i can read the full error message?
[09:57] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: or, as 'gdialog --help' indicates, maybe 'zenity' is what you want
[09:57] <ivanc_> Alrighta: and with fdisk ?
[09:57] <Alrighta> ivanc_, oh, when I click "property" on my free unallocated space(which belonged to windows) it says it is the primary partition
[09:58] <Alrighta> ivanc_, I don't know how to use fdisk. Damn, I am so stupid. I could've use Partition Magic on Windows. Bah!!!
[09:58] <ivanc_> Alrighta: fdisk -l /dev/hda  ( only print the partition table )
[09:59] <Alrighta> ivanc_, Cannot open /dev/hda
[09:59] <roham_> !themes
[09:59] <ubotu> I guess themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[09:59] <Bwl> What's will the release after hoary be called?
[09:59] <Alrighta> ivanc_, oh, I wasn't root
[09:59] <dv__> people,
[09:59] <omp342> kde = =/
[09:59] <dv__> ubuntu uses esd
[09:59] <omp342> gnome = =] 
[09:59] <ivanc_> Alrighta: ;)
[09:59] <dv__> how can I disable that?
[10:00] <Bwl> dv__: Try system / preferences /audio.
[10:00] <Bwl> dv__: Or Sound, not audio.
[10:00] <dv__> hmm
[10:00] <dv__> yeah, I can disable the start sound server with gnome option
[10:01] <bjv> anyone know how to do a serial link in ubuntu?
[10:01] <Bwl> dv__: esd is the sound server.
[10:01] <dv__> ok
[10:01] <dv__> because esd has problems with gstreamer
[10:01] <dv__> playback stutters
[10:01] <bjv> ive got 'modprobe slip' down, but any help using slattach would be nice.
[10:01] <Alrighta> ivanc_, well, I see my partition table - hda2 is "W95 EXT'd", something like that, its ID is "f". I have hda5 and hda6, but both connected to linux(ext3 and SWAT)..
[10:02] <Bwl> Ahr. Which branch is more bleeding edge than hoary?
[10:02] <dv__> breezy
[10:03] <sebastian_> Any one know some app that can open and edit PS?
[10:03] <Bwl> thanks, trying breezy then. :)
[10:03] <ivanc_> Alrighta: copy the result of the fdisk ... plz ;)
[10:03] <dv__> wait
[10:03] <dv__> breezy is hazardous :)
[10:03] <Alrighta> ivanc_, here?
[10:03] <Bwl> dv__: well my hoary installation is pretty corrupt anyway.
[10:03] <ivanc_> yeah..
[10:03] <dv__> hmm
[10:03] <dv__> k
[10:03] <dv__> :)
[10:04] <Alrighta> ivanc_, btw, why the hell can't I edit my partitions because they are mounted? Can't gparted \ qtparted just run(as PartitionMagic does) when I don't use the partitions(when I reboot)?
[10:04] <dv__> a system issue
[10:05] <dv__> besides, the disk cache might not be flushed yet
[10:06] <dv__> ah, when rebooting. hm
[10:06] <ivanc_> Alrighta: no ... they can work on a runnable system but you must to pay a little attention...;)
[10:06] <Alrighta> ivanc_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1370
[10:07] <liran> i just checked out gkrellm. its nice, but i was talking about something else
[10:07] <liran> those transparent modules that you see on suse mostly
[10:07] <Bwl> dv__: Did you get gstreamer working?
[10:07] <Alrighta> liran, ma kore?
[10:07] <dv__> yes
[10:07] <dv__> you have to turn off esd
[10:08] <dv__> and switch in gconf from esdsink to alsasink
[10:08] <liran> Alrighta, hakol tov
[10:08] <Bwl> Are you using breezy?
[10:08] <dv__> no
[10:08] <Alrighta> liran, tov lishmoa.
[10:08] <liran> Alrighta, ken ah... :)
[10:08] <Alrighta> liran, betah, im col ha memshala hamizdayenet
[10:09] <Bwl> dv__: I believe you can switch from esdsink to alsasink by using System / Preferences / Multimedia System Selector too.
[10:09] <liran> Alrighta, ken ahi
[10:09] <liran> Alrighta, ma laasot
[10:09] <ivanc_> Alrighta: you have a primary partition that is extended
[10:09] <ivanc_> Alrighta: and this contain the swap and the linux partition
[10:09] <dv__> yes
[10:09] <Alrighta> liran, laarog aravim
[10:09] <liran> Alrighta, im trying to find the name of that tool that's basically like gkrellm but the modules are transparent and i believe they're also seperated
[10:10] <Bwl> liran: gdesklet?
[10:10] <Alrighta> ivanc_,, so how do I resize?
[10:10] <twibbler> has anybody any exeprience of installing the GD perl module ...
[10:10] <liran> i dont remember whats it called. ill check it right now bwl, thanks.
[10:10] <ivanc_> Alrighta: how much free space do u have?
[10:10] <ivanc_> df -h   ( is the command )
[10:10] <Alrighta> ivanc_, according to qtparted 16.67gb.
[10:10] <Inkeh> Alrighta, i've only installed the GB module under PHP, i don't do Perl
[10:10] <Misos> How do I restrict users to their home directories?
[10:11] <Bwl> Misos: How do your users access the server/computer?
[10:11] <Misos> They're all going to be accessing via SSH.
[10:12] <twibbler> to restrict users have you checked the settings in vipw
[10:12] <liran> thanks bwl, thats the one :)
[10:13] <Misos> I want to set a group, and users of this group can only access their /home/user file
[10:13] <ivanc_> Misos: chown -R 770
[10:13] <liran> bwl: man some screenshots are REALLY nice there :)
[10:13] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know how to get a JSP container for Apache2?
[10:13] <Misos> woul dit be chown -r group 770?
[10:13] <Misos> er
[10:14] <Misos> chown -r 770 group
[10:14] <Alrighta> ivanc_...?
[10:14] <Ng> err
[10:14] <Ng> he means chmod
[10:14] <ivanc_> Alrighta: mmm curios ... here work fine...
[10:14] <Bwl> Misos: I'm afraid I don't know. Either you try setting up restrictive modes on all directories or you try some chroot solution. Try googling for ssh and chroot, seems to be some solutions out there.
[10:14] <Alrighta> ivanc_, what works fine?
[10:14] <ivanc_> Alrighta: qtparted
[10:15] <Bwl> liran: Yea, was a while since I tried gdesklet out. Guess they've solved all the memory usage problems there were before.
[10:15] <Alrighta> ivanc_, perhaps, my linux partition is also mounted?
[10:15] <tenco_> vitriol: still problems, this time with ndiswrapper
[10:15] <kevin_> anyone I can talk to about why I get this msg when I try and apt-get install streamtuner?
[10:15] <kevin_> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:15] <kevin_> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[10:15] <kevin_> that package should be filed.
[10:15] <kevin_> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[10:15] <kevin_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:15] <kevin_>   streamtuner: Depends: libtagc0 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
[10:15] <kevin_> E: Broken packages
[10:15] <kevin_> root@Terminator:~ #
[10:15] <twibbler> Misos man vipw then using this will restrict the user ...
[10:15] <Bwl> kevin_: I guess Terminator has failed to stop skynet again ...
[10:16] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know how to get a JSP container for Apache2?
[10:16] <ivanc_> Alrighta: is dangerous but u can ...
[10:16] <Ng> kevin_: have you done an apt-get update first? a matching version of libtagc0 is in universe
[10:16] <kevin_> lol your funny :P
[10:16] <kevin_> yes I have maany times
[10:16] <Ng> and you have universe enabled?
[10:17] <ivanc_> Alrighta: can u probe with parted is without gui but u can say the right block ...
[10:17] <Alrighta> ivanc_, unmounted my linux, didn't help.
[10:17] <kevin_> prolly how do I find out?
[10:17] <Alrighta> ivanc_, what?
[10:17] <ivanc_> Alrighta: parted is another program for partitioning
[10:17] <Ng> kevin_: in /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic's repositories menu entry
[10:17] <Bwl> kevin_: check /etc/apt/sources.list after a universe line.
[10:17] <Ng> kevin_: you ought to though, because streamtuner is in universe
[10:18] <tenco_> my ndiswrapper disconnects everytime a short time after bootup, but when i do rmmod ndiswrapper and modprobe ndiswrapper and ifup wlan0, the connection lasts forever
[10:18] <kevin_> k. hangon
[10:18] <Alrighta> ivanc_, does it exist in Knoppix?
[10:18] <twibbler> tenco do an ndiswrapper -m to make it permanent
[10:18] <tenco_> twibbler: i did
[10:19] <erb> hi
[10:19] <twibbler> I had the same problem .... but fixed it ...
[10:19] <ivanc_> Alrighta: I don't no... :|
[10:19] <tenco_> twibbler: ubuntu is booting up, setting up the card, but a short time after that the card loses the connection
[10:19] <Concord_Dawn> Does anyone know how to get a JSP container for Apache2?
[10:19] <twibbler> the only way was to uninstall ndiswrapper through synaptic and setit up from scratch ..
[10:19] <tenco_> twibbler: and wenn i unload and reload ndiswrapper again and do an ifup wlan0 the connection stays forever
[10:19] <Bwl> tenco_: A long shot, but maybe moving the ndiswrapper last in /etc/modules will help.
[10:20] <twibbler> what card ....
[10:20] <tenco_> twibbler: dlink dwl-g520
[10:20] <ivanc_> Concord_Dawn: tomcat?
[10:20] <kevin_> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[10:20] <kevin_> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[10:20] <kevin_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse r$deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse r$deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse r$
[10:20] <Concord_Dawn> at least I got an answer.
[10:20] <tenco_> twibbler: doesnt work with madwifi
[10:20] <Bwl> kevin_: Please don't flood.
[10:20] <twibbler> brb
[10:20] <tenco_> Bwl: thanks, will try that
[10:20] <asdrubalex> Osama Bin Laden hidden place ROTFLOL  http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=103
[10:20] <erb> anybody pls send an xorg.conf or just paste it (eg. to rafb.net/paste)
[10:20] <Alrighta> ivanc_, with kpackage I can download parted-bf
[10:21] <Bwl> tenco_: It probably won't work, but worth a shot. ;)
[10:21] <Ng> kevin_: I think you are missing some repositories, but that paste is hard to read. paste the whole file into pastebin.com or something
[10:21] <kevin_> ok fine if you call that flooding I won't
[10:21] <Alrighta> ivanc_, It is already installed on my system
[10:21] <Ng> kevin_: pasting that much text in a busy channel like this makes conversation pretty hard to follow :/
[10:22] <kevin_> where can get all the repositories?
[10:22] <tenco_> Bwl: its sad, bcause i thought the card would work with madwifi and was reported to work. but seems like dlink changed the chipset :\
[10:22] <vitriol> is there an ubuntu amd64 channel?
[10:22] <twibbler> tenco I think I remembered ..... is it pcmcia or PC ...
[10:22] <tenco_> twibbler: pci
[10:23] <mjr> vitriol, it was decided that this channel is big enough for amd64
[10:23] <Bwl> tenco_: Doesn't suprise me. Ordered my D-link DI-624 router because I'd read it had an Atheros chipset (to go with my laptop with the same chip). Turns out some revisions use Ti.
[10:23] <tenco_> twibbler: a new one, but not supported by madwifi (HAL reports error 13)
[10:23] <vitriol> mjr: ahh ok
[10:23] <Ng> kevin_: http://www.pointlessrubbish.net/sources.list
[10:23] <kevin_> thank you :)
[10:23] <Bwl> tenco_: Have you tried compiling madwifi from CVS?
[10:23] <Ng> kevin_: although you might want to remove "gb." where it occurs, if you're not in the uk
[10:23] <ivanc_> Alrighta: good luck
[10:23] <tenco_> Bwl: no. how old is the ubuntu package?
[10:24] <twibbler> ok me thinks it maybe a poweroff issue with the boot settings ..
[10:24] <deadhorse> Bwl, Atheros?
[10:24] <Alrighta> ivanc_, how do I load it? I don't find it in the menu :/
[10:24] <tenco_> twibbler: *looks interested*
[10:24] <deadhorse> Bwl, what's that?
[10:24] <Bwl> tenco_: Hm, don't know. It doesn't work for me now at least. Tho, I don't know if it's because of madwifi. But if it've never worked, it's really worth trying.
[10:24] <twibbler> If when you boot it is working then stops and you can reinitialise it is powering off ..
[10:24] <phayded> quick question, where are the logs for www?
[10:25] <muffin_> hi
[10:25] <Ng> should be /var/log/apache/
[10:25] <ivanc_> Alrighta: terminal
[10:25] <tenco_> twibbler: how do i power it off?
[10:25] <phayded> thnx
[10:25] <muffin_> how do i install cedega_4.4-1.i386.tgz??
[10:25] <Alrighta> ivanc_, okay, I'm in "parted", in a text mode
[10:25] <Bwl> deadhorse: Atheros is a company, was referring to it's wifi chipsets tho.
[10:25] <Alrighta> ivanc_, can you help me using it?
[10:25] <Ng> muffin_: are you a transgaming subscriber?
[10:25] <twibbler> You have to cnfigure I think in Bios to not poweroff ...
[10:25] <deadhorse> Bwl, is it good?
[10:25] <Ng> muffin_: they have .deb files for subscribers, you can install that with "sudo dpkg -i cedega-blahblah,deb"
[10:25] <tenco_> twibbler: will try.
[10:26] <twibbler> ok im around for a while ...
[10:26] <Ice9> !ati
[10:26] <tenco_> twibbler: ok
[10:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:26] <Bwl> deadhorse: Since I've only used Atheros I can't really tell. But I'd go with something that works with an vanilla kernel.
[10:26] <muffin_> Ng, so i first need the .deb file? Is it posible to install it in another way?
[10:27] <deadhorse> Bwl, so?
[10:27] <Ng> muffin_: sure, extract the tarball (tar -xvzf cedega-blahblah.tgz), go into the directory it creates and there should be an install document
[10:27] <muffin_> Ng, thx
[10:28] <kevin_> thank-you all very very much
[10:28] <Bwl> deadhorse: Atheros doesn't release their drivers for Linux. You need to use a separate package called Madwifi to get it working (linux-restricted-modules-ARCH contains it tho in ubuntu).
[10:28] <deadhorse> hmm, good
[10:29] <ivanc_> Alrighta: parted from command line with root permission
[10:29] <Bwl> deadhorse: so?
[10:29] <liran> uhmmm, im interested to know how to read that gdesklets binary clock
[10:29] <Alrighta> ivanc_, yes
[10:29] <Alrighta> ivanc_, I did that.
[10:29] <meuserj|work> liran, 1 2 4 8.. add the ones that are lit
[10:29] <Bwl> liran: heh, how does it look?
[10:29] <phayded> anyone here have a LAMP server and use phpWebSite?  anyone?
[10:30] <BeerGeek> Afternoon all.  Have a printer problem that I could use some help with if anyone's got the time.
[10:30] <deadhorse> Bwl, so... it's fine
[10:30] <Bwl> deadhorse: bot.
[10:30] <deadhorse> Bwl, me?
[10:30] <Ng> BeerGeek: ask your question, if someone knows the answer they'll pipe up :)
[10:30] <Bwl> deadhorse: no, the dead horse.
[10:30] <deadhorse> Bwl, I doubt it
[10:30] <ivanc_> Alrighta: you see all command with help
[10:31] <phayded> anyone use phpWebSite template for their server?  please help
[10:31] <ivanc_> Alrighta: and is better if you read man parted before starting ;)
[10:31] <BeerGeek> Brill.  I've just installed Ubuntu & am trying to connect to our household printer on a (gaah!) XP box.  Keep getting NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED errors... :(
[10:32] <Alrighta> ivanc_, do you know nparted? I've also tried to use that, but it says I cannot edit my partitions because they are only in read only state :/
[10:32] <BeerGeek> Any suggestions?
[10:32] <Bwl> BeerGeek: Have you setup an account on the XP box or have you set it to allow guests?
[10:32] <twibbler> May I ask the ? about perl GD package .. failing to load through cpan with an error looking for libgd    does anybody have any ideas ..
[10:33] <liran> wait, he quit and i didnt understand him heh
[10:33] <liran> bwl: its a 6x4 matrix
[10:33] <BeerGeek> I used one of the active regular user accounts and it still toggles out every 60 seconds, no printing.
[10:33] <BeerGeek> Guest has been disabled.
[10:33] <lothos> i have just got gkrellm installed on my laptop running ubuntu and would like some help on how to install themes for it can anyone help?
[10:33] <Bwl> BeerGeek: And are you using DOMAIN\username format with the correct password?
[10:34] <Alrighta> ivanc_, If I go back to ubuntu, open gparted, click on "Unmount" and then try to resize, will it help me?
[10:34] <ivanc_> Alrighta: runlevel 1        from the first console  ALT+CTRL+F1
[10:34] <BeerGeek> Erm...  hang on, I'll check...
[10:35] <Bwl> twibbler: Try libgd-gd2-perlI think.
[10:35] <hcooper> anyone have an idea why yesterday's breezy update now makes my wlan (rt2500) crash the machine randomly?
[10:35] <Alrighta> At this progress, installing windows again and downloading ParitionMagic will be a lot faster.
[10:35] <twibbler> thank you ...
[10:35] <Alrighta> ivanc_, what does it do? and please refer to my question about ubuntu..
[10:35] <Alrighta> damn.
[10:35] <liran> how do i run lmsensors?
[10:35] <Bwl> Alrighta: Partition Magic is evil.
[10:36] <Alrighta> Bwl, I'd better use it than remain in this state of mine.
[10:36] <Bwl> Alrighta: You're free to do whatever. All I know is that I've had problems with it.
[10:36] <no_dammagE> aah, a small question: I did a clean install of kubuntu ... but it fails to start X11 - startx script tells me that /usr/bin/X11R6/X doesn't exist. What went wrong?
[10:37] <Alrighta> Bwl, can you help me then?
[10:37] <lothos> I use Partition Magic only in extreme cases where I have no alternitive
[10:37] <ksyms> hello, I've ubuntu hoary installed, my sound works well but I have noted I have no /dev/dsp, some applications use it, how do I install/create it?
[10:37] <lothos> knoppix has a nice partioner
[10:37] <no_dammagE> ksyms: install alsa
[10:37] <Alrighta> lothos, which is? I'm under Knoppix right now..
[10:37] <ksyms> no_dammagE, it is installed, I can play xmms with alsa...
[10:38] <lothos> give me a sec
[10:38] <ksyms> no_dammagE, and hoary comes with alsa default, isn't?
[10:38] <lothos> anyone know anything about gkrellm
[10:38] <darkheart> ksyms Where is your sound device listed in /dev?
[10:38] <no_dammagE> ksyms: you might want to call alsaconf (it there is none, install alsa-tools)
[10:38] <omp342> gkrellm is ugly =/
[10:39] <Alrighta> lothos...?
[10:39] <ksyms> alsa is installed, just checked.
[10:39] <lothos> Alrighta i am loading knoppix now give me a sec ok
[10:39] <Alrighta> sorry :/
[10:40] <lothos> omp what do you use then
[10:40] <BeerGeek> Yep.  No joy, tho -- and entering workgroup\user in the appropriate box in GNOME's printer control applet doesn't seem to keep.  Type it in, close, check properties again and the username/pw boxes are blank... odd, that.
[10:40] <omp342> nothing =/
[10:40] <liran> omp342, what do you use?
[10:40] <omp342> i dont have ubuntu installed yet =/
[10:40] <ksyms> no_dammagE, there is no such package, maybe i should install alsa-oss?
[10:40] <omp342> i have fedora
[10:40] <darkheart> ksyms Where is your sound device listed in /dev?
[10:40] <liran> ahh
[10:40] <ksyms> darkheart, i don't know
[10:40] <omp342> i dont have any cd-r's to get ubuntu installed
[10:41] <omp342> i downloaded the iso but i cant burn it
[10:41] <omp342> =/
[10:41] <lothos> seems to be working fine on my 900 MHz lappy
[10:41] <ksyms> darkheart, /dev/snd probably
[10:41] <liran> i just installed gdesklets but some desktop modules arent runing, i think im missing some critical apps
[10:41] <ksyms> darkheart, /dev/snd
[10:41] <darkheart> ksyms Well, when you find out, you could try making a symlink from /dev/dsp  to /dev/sound or whatever and see if that works.
[10:41] <BeerGeek> crud, gotta go.  BBRS
[10:41] <no_dammagE> ksyms: hmm, in debian there was alsa-tools (or similar) which contained alsaconf. Alsaconf checks your hardware and creates devices based on the inspection.
[10:41] <muffin_> whats better for gaming, carega or wine??
[10:42] <darkheart> muffin_ cedega
[10:42] <Bwl> BeerGeek: Was a while since I tried to use a printer on a windows shared environment. But I had the same problem. All I remember is that it's important to use the correct format of username and password. A tip is to use the smbclient in a shell to play around with it.
[10:42] <darkheart> muffin_ I got q2 running finally.
[10:42] <eri> ... >> ... is there a channel for people new to linux? >> ... I don't want to ask stupid questions here...
[10:42] <ksyms> but /dev/dsp is oss thing, maybe installing alsa-oss will work
[10:42] <omp342> cedega is better, but its not free
[10:42] <no_dammagE> ksyms: do apt-cache search alsa | grep ^alsa and check what might contain configuration tools. Alsa-oss is an oss wrapper for old hardware ...
[10:42] <no_dammagE> ksyms: try to install alsa-oss, too
[10:42] <sandino> hello all
[10:42] <no_dammagE> sandino: hello
[10:43] <bimberi> no_dammagE: FYI my startx has the line "defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X" in it
[10:43] <lothos> Alrighta I used QTparted under knoppix to split up my ntfs drive so I could install linux
[10:43] <muffin_> darkheart, technically its running in linux, but i first need the game files... (torrent still loading ^^)
[10:43] <vader1102> have a question....I have a Dell Latitude CPi p2 366 and for some reason when I restart my laptop it mutes the sound....is there a fix for this?
[10:43] <no_dammagE> bimberi: thanks for the tip, ill check the script now
[10:43] <darkheart> muffin_ So you got it working? Or are you using Cedega?
[10:43] <sandino> hey anyone here use wireless on ubuntu.. i kow its a very spread out question.. but i cant seem to do it. i get wireless with slackware and freebsd . but no go here
[10:43] <bimberi> no_dammagE: np :)
[10:44] <muffin_> darkheart, no natvie linux. the app starts and says that graphical files are missing
[10:44] <Alrighta> lothos, well, QTparted doesn't seem to be working for me. I have some free unallocated space(which came from deleting windows) and I can't resize my Ubuntu linux partition and add the free space
[10:44] <muffin_> darkheart, same error as in the windows version without the files ^^
[10:44] <darkheart> muffin_ Really? Graphical? Was it that same error you posted last night?
[10:44] <no_dammagE> bimberi: ah, can't do now, i removed xorg-common to apt-get install kde ^^
[10:44] <vader1102> sandino, I use the madwifi with the dwl-g650 wireless adapter
[10:45] <lothos> Im not sure it worked for me reszied my ntfs side and did no damage
[10:45] <darkheart> muffin_ Cause in that thread I sent you to, there was a tarball that one guy made. It was missing sound files, I put that in my /usr/lib/games/quake2 folder and it worked.
[10:45] <lothos> sorry
[10:45] <ksyms> no_dammagE, alsa-utils, but there is not such alsaconf
[10:45] <muffin_> darkheart, the debian sound drivers worked for me too. I still need to "killall esd"
[10:45] <Alrighta> lothos, do you have any 'tips'..?
[10:45] <muffin_> darkheart, my current error is: "Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx"
[10:45] <sandino> well apperently i have ndiswrapper here.. but im new to debian style stuff. how do i load the windows inf so ndiswrapper works. ive tried dloading and using the source.. but it gives me errors.
[10:45] <darkheart> muffin_ Ah okay..So you progressed from the previous error. =P
[10:46] <vader1102> sandino, I honestly have no idea...sorry
[10:46] <muffin_> darkheart, yeah ;)  but where did you get the colormap.pcx from ??
[10:46] <Mystery47_Newbie> help! -Why i dont see nvidia-gfx-gonfic -file or i cant put it enable?
[10:47] <ksyms> no_dammagE, definitely my alsa is fucked up.
[10:47] <muffin_> darkheart, theres nothing on the idsoft ftp...
[10:47] <no_dammagE> ksyms: im apt-cache searching for all available packs, stay tuned
[10:47] <darkheart> muffin_ I didn't actually have that error...What I did though (I don't know if it was necessary or not), but I ran a command that was at the end of the thread.
[10:47] <ksyms> no_dammagE, i think i need to re-install re-configure it
[10:47] <darkheart> muffin_ I think it was dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data
[10:47] <Mystery47_Newbie> help! -Why i dont see nvidia-gfx-gonfic -file or i cant put it enable?
[10:48] <ksyms> no_dammagE, root@babaji:/dev/snd # alsaplayer Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults.Failed to initialize plugin!
[10:48] <bimberi> no_dammagE: that seems unusual (although i don't know the dependencies).  BTW I've actually installed the kubuntu-desktop metapackage which doesn't install the "kde" package itself - but but lots of kde related libs
[10:48] <muffin_> darkheart, hm... i didnt do that. in which folder did you do this?
[10:48] <darkheart> muffin_ Asked me if I wanted to install the data from CD, shareware or something else...Anyway, it will download the data for you I think.
[10:49] <darkheart> muffin_ I didn't really know what it wanted so I just left it at /root. I ended up with the q2-ctf-blah-blah.exe there..not sure what to do w/ that. But the game works (didn't play it, just tested it).
[10:49] <mark_> Howdy
[10:49] <muffin_> darkheart, wow
[10:50] <evanzo> anyone know of a fix for a problem in gnome with the power meter not updating when cable is plugged/unplugged
[10:50] <muffin_> darkheart, loading the missing data, thx ^^
[10:50] <Mystery47_Newbie> I want to play enemy territory, but i cant do this: Type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable at a terminal to enable it.
[10:50] <darkheart> muffin_ =) Cool, hope that solves your problem.
[10:51] <sandino> where can i get kernel src..>/
[10:51] <no_dammagE> ksyms: too bad i currently have no browser to check what packs you might need. Currently I have only two things - alsa-oss and alsa-utils...
[10:51] <vader1102> any ideas on why my sound auto mutes upon boot?
[10:51] <mark_> I need to copy my updated Ubuntu to another h/d.... What's the best way to do this?
[10:51] <no_dammagE> bimberi: well, too late, I can't stop the process. It seems that the installer didn't install everything
[10:51] <darkheart> vader1102 Using gnome?
[10:51] <vader1102> yes
[10:52] <ksyms> no_dammagE, but as you said, alsa-oss is just a wrapper, I don't think it will help.
[10:52] <impusle29> why can't I see an ntfs hard drive in ubuntu live?
[10:52] <no_dammagE> ksyms: unfortunately I don't have an idea. Hey, ppl, help ksyms
[10:52] <ksyms> no_dammagE, thanks.
[10:52] <darkheart> vader1102 You can try setting the sound level where you want, then logging out of gnome and saving your session. Might boot up w/ the sound at that setting.
[10:52] <impusle29> why can't I see an ntfs hard drive in ubuntu live?
[10:52] <hmlc> have ppl had probs with the last upgrade of breezy killing there WiFi?
[10:52] <ksyms> I have no /dev/dsp and I think my alsa isn't working...
[10:52] <vader1102> darkheart, tried and same result it auto mutes
[10:53] <ksyms> dspless
[10:53] <no_dammagE> ksyms: the problem is that I don't remember if oss lives in the userland or in the kernelland. If it is kernelland, than I'm wondering why you have no OSS compiled in ...
[10:53] <darkheart> vader1102 Hmm..I dunno...maybe try alsamixer?
[10:53] <andrew__> hey all, what package provides qmake?
[10:53] <vader1102> ok
[10:53] <tenco_> Bwl, twibbler: very strange. i am doing now a upgrade over the wlan-link without issues. but ndiswrapper seems to need a certain amount of time to initialize.
[10:53] <ksyms> no_dammagE, it's a kernel module for sure
[10:53] <Seveas> qmake?
[10:53] <ksyms> no_dammagE, but I haven't touched kernel and everything was working well.
[10:53] <darkheart> impusle29 Well, I believe that live CD loads everything from CD including the filesystem you use...So there is no reference to a hdd.
[10:54] <vader1102> that is what is what it is set to
[10:54] <no_dammagE> ksyms: than you might want to check make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux (install kernel-sources)
[10:54] <ksyms> no_dammagE, I mean, everyone in hoary has a /dev/dsp?
[10:54] <tche> Hello! I have a problem, I can't set us the international us keyboard
[10:54] <Seveas> ksyms, everyone with a soundcard should have one
[10:54] <no_dammagE> ksyms: funny thing, I have /dev/dsp in that half-broken installation, but cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp doesn't bring up any sound ...
[10:54] <tche> And my touch pad doesn't work correctly...
[10:54] <ksyms> no_dammagE, I've already compiled it since I got this machine (4 weeks) ago
[10:55] <ksyms> Seveas, my sound card is working and I don't have one
[10:55] <Seveas> hmm
[10:55] <Seveas> odd
[10:55] <selinium> hi all, any bluetooth users out there?
[10:55] <bimberi> andrew__: qt3-dev-tools
[10:55] <no_dammagE> ksyms: modern applications use alsa while older (Quake3) use OSS ...
[10:55] <darkheart> vader1102 Do you load the server on startup?
[10:56] <twibbler> selinum yes ..
[10:56] <vader1102> I think so, how do I check?
[10:56] <ksyms> no_dammagE, that's what I figured out, applications that need oss (/dev/dsp) is not working...
[10:56] <sandino> can someone tell me how to add root instead of using sudo. please
[10:56] <no_dammagE> sandino: use sudo passwd
[10:56] <Seveas> sandino, sudo passwd root
[10:56] <darkheart> vader1102 In System->Preferences->Sound
[10:57] <vader1102> k
[10:57] <darkheart> vader1102 Dunno if that will resolve the issue though.
[10:57] <Ice9> how is a hardware master in here?
[10:57] <Ice9> I mean
[10:57] <Ice9> is there a hardware master in here?
[10:57] <vader1102> it is set to load on boot
[10:57] <twibbler> bwl thank you for your help .. fixed it all ....
[10:58] <no_dammagE> ksyms: i mean to remember that e.g. OSS apps as Q3 require now echo direct and disable, IIRC. But that still doesn't bring you around the problem of missing /dev/Dsp ...
[10:58] <selinium> twibbler: I am having trouble getting it all working. I have used the bluetooth manager and it has detected my phone/headset and everything. But i cant get the to connect.
[10:58] <twibbler> libgd-perl ......
[10:58] <selinium> twibbler: any ideas?
[10:58] <sandino> no_dammagE Seveas ok what am i doing wrng .. i get 'sorry'
[10:58] <no_dammagE> sandino: sudo passwd
[10:58] <Seveas> sandino, do sudo -i
[10:58] <no_dammagE> sandino: enter Password: your password
[10:58] <Seveas> and then passwd
[10:58] <twibbler> I have exactly the sme problem ...... setting up bluetooth is easy ... and I can just talk to he phone ...
[10:59] <no_dammagE> sandino: enter new UNIX password
[10:59] <ksyms> no_dammagE, root@babaji:~ # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[10:59] <ksyms> cat: write error: No space left on device
[10:59] <sandino> no_dammagE i did and it says sorry
[10:59] <Seveas> ksyms, you just filled your disk :)
[10:59] <twibbler> Think it is the actual driver ... what phone ..
[10:59] <ksyms> Seveas, I have never created a /dev partition
[10:59] <no_dammagE> Seveas: ;) lol? it shouldn't do that so fast
[11:00] <darkheart> vader1102 Sorry, not sure then =\ I will keep looking, but kinda busy now as well.
[11:00] <Seveas>  /dev is mounted in memory
[11:00] <no_dammagE> apt-get is fucking up my irssi, damn, can't read a thing
[11:00] <vader1102> k ty
[11:00] <sandino> no_dammagE my fault man.. im an idiot
[11:00] <Seveas> you clogged your memory :
[11:00] <Seveas> :)
[11:00] <Ice9> whats that good computer help channel?
[11:00] <gsuveg> re
[11:00] <ksyms> no_dammagE, here it go: root@babaji:~ # modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[11:00] <ksyms> root@babaji:~ # ls -al /dev/dsp
[11:00] <ksyms> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 Aug 18 18:00 /dev/dsp
[11:00] <no_dammagE> sandino: no problem, shit happens
[11:00] <gsuveg> anybody can help me to compile latest icewm to ubuntu ?
[11:00] <Seveas> gsuveg, icewm is in the repositories...
[11:01] <gsuveg> yes. but not the fresh
[11:01] <ksyms> no_dammagE, now, why the fuck this module isn't working. hell
[11:01] <ksyms> no_dammagE, but yay, it's working :D
[11:01] <gsuveg> Seveas: or ?
[11:01] <andrew__> g++  -o settings     -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm
[11:01] <andrew__> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt
[11:01] <andrew__> any ideas with this one guys?
[11:01] <no_dammagE> ksyms: HUH?
[11:01] <Seveas> andrew__, install the qt libs
[11:02] <no_dammagE> ksyms: do you mean that now it is working? if yes, then the only thing was a missing kmodule ...
[11:02] <ksyms> no_dammagE, I loaded snd_pcm_oss and it's working.
[11:03] <no_dammagE> ksyms: gratz, I was also fighting with similar shit today (LILO install via chroot). Well, after 3 hours it worked. I just had to think about that damn dev mode :/
[11:04] <no_dammagE> a small question: what was the name of that kde meta-package?
[11:04] <bimberi> no_dammagE: kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:04] <ksyms> no_dammagE, werd, thanks
[11:04] <zerboxx> When installing something with synaptic, it automatically does ./configure, right? (this is a question with a followup question)
[11:04] <darkheart> vader1102 I bet Seveas knows =)
[11:04] <no_dammagE> ksyms: you did the job, not me, no need to thank ^^
[11:04] <no_dammagE> bimberi: thanks
[11:04] <vader1102> I will ask him when he isn't so busy
[11:05] <vader1102> ;-)
[11:05] <no_dammagE> zerboxx: with debian packages no ./configure is required because you install everything in binary mode and dpkg manages all dependencies for you
[11:05] <Seveas> vader1102, I'm alwasys busy :)
[11:05] <Seveas> so ask away
[11:05] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[11:06] <andrew__> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[11:06] <andrew__> Seveas, how bout that one?  Why do people need to be difficult and use qt!!
[11:06] <Seveas> andrew__, what are you compiling?
[11:06] <vader1102> lol, why is it I use gnome desktop and my sound is auto muted upon boot, help....please;-0
[11:06] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to set the defaulct chmod for my directories?
[11:06] <andrew__> Seveas, its mythtv stuff
[11:06] <Seveas> apt-get build-dep mythtv
[11:06] <no_dammagE> andrew__: you need the dev packs for qt3 (or tools pack?) which contains qmake
[11:06] <Seveas> skalpel, set a umask
[11:07] <hussam> andrew__: try to export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 and recompile
[11:07] <skalpel> seveas: do i have to set a umask for every dir seperately or can i do it recursively?
[11:07] <hussam> andrew__: what are you trying to compile?
[11:07] <Seveas> skalpel, oh you want to change permissions for existing folders?
[11:07] <WhyvasMct> so... is ubuntu better than fedora core 4?
[11:07] <Seveas> WhyvasMct, lots better...
[11:07] <andrew__> hussam, its stuff for my mythtv box
[11:08] <Seveas> (but you can expect people in here to say that of course :))
[11:08] <ubuntu_> why can't I see fat32 or ntfs drives in ubuntu live??
[11:08] <hussam> andrew__: not ubuntu?
[11:08] <skalpel> seveas: yes, i want all dirs in the /home folder to be rwx by default, so that when a download comes in i can move it wherever i want without changing its permissions
[11:08] <Seveas> ubuntu_, you need to mount them
[11:08] <ubuntu_> how do I do that?
[11:08] <no_dammagE> ubuntu_: you need to mount them
[11:08] <lvraab> wow, there's almost twice as many users in here than in #fedora
[11:08] <andrew__> hussam, mythtv is running on ubuntu - mythtv is a program
[11:08] <andrew__> hussam, www.abarbaccia.com
[11:08] <ubuntu_> wow, there's an echo
[11:08] <Seveas> skalpel, chmod -R changes recursively
[11:08] <firebird619> Can anyone help me with a modem issue. I downloaded the drivers for PCTel modems that support my kernel (2.6.10-5-386) and installed them. According to lsmod, all of the modules for the modem the the README file says should be there are there, however, I cannot connect to the Internet with my modem. Could someone please help me?
[11:08] <Seveas> ubuntu_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:09] <teressa> yo Seveas...
[11:09] <Seveas> teressa, hi!
[11:09] <teressa> I got adobe workin, you were right
[11:09] <ubuntu_> thanks babe
[11:09] <hussam> andrew__: then try  export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 and recompile
[11:09] <Seveas> teressa, nice!
[11:09] <skalpel> seveas: for some reason when i use chmod the permissions do not stick. if a user logs in and uploads files i have to change permissions on the new folder/files again, do you know why?
[11:09] <Seveas> skalpel, yes
[11:09] <teressa> It downloaded the good one over the new one with a differnent name
[11:09] <teressa> Thanks! :)
[11:09] <vader1102> bbl
[11:09] <andrew__> hussam, no dice
[11:10] <Seveas> skalpel, that's what the umask is for: the command 'umask 022' makes sure all files/folders you create will be rwxrwxrx
[11:10] <no_dammagE> firebird619: whats the error message when you fail to connect?
[11:10] <sandino> apperently i have ndiswrapper here.. how do ill .? locate it and insta
[11:10] <skalpel> seveas: ok, and does it work for all users?
[11:10] <Seveas> skalpel, per user
[11:10] <Seveas> put it in ~/.gnomerc and ~/.bashrc
[11:11] <skalpel> seveas: so if i want it tow ork for all users i will have to login and set them seperately?
[11:11] <Seveas> sandino, ndiswrapper kernel modules are installed by default, the utilities are in the ndiswrapper-utils package
[11:11] <Seveas> skalpel, you might have luck by putting it in /etc/bash_profile
[11:11] <firebird619> no_dammagE: I connect using System ==> Administration ==> Networking. When I tried wvdial it says No such file or directory
[11:11] <Seveas> but that will not work if users don't use bash
[11:11] <darkheart> Seveas I thought 'umask 022' would make files rwxr-xr-x?
[11:11] <hussam> andrew__: do you have libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools installed?
[11:11] <Seveas> darkheart, I stand corrected
[11:12] <skalpel> it should be umask 000 right?
[11:12] <Seveas> skalpel, idea: put it in the xsession stuff :)
[11:12] <skalpel> seveas: what should the bash_profile look like?
[11:12] <WhyvasMct> should i get the 5.4 or 5.10 ?
[11:12] <Seveas> 000 makes everything rwxrwxrwx
[11:12] <skalpel> seveas: what xsession stuff?
[11:12] <Seveas> WhyvasMct, 5.04
[11:12] <teressa> be bold!
[11:12] <darkheart> Seveas Wasn't trying to be right, just making sure =)
[11:12] <andrew__> hussam, yes to both
[11:12] <no_dammagE> firebird619: the utility is missing, the drivers are there and active if lsmod reports them. Seveas, check the problem (I currently can't check on this machine - missing half of the system :)  )
[11:12] <twibbler> Does anybody now of a good text editor which will handle access over ftp or ssh
[11:13] <sandino> Seveas sorry new to ubuntu .. where do i locate it ..? and where can i get kernel sources
[11:13] <Seveas> skalpel, /etc/gdm/Xsession.d/PostLogin (something like that)
[11:13] <Seveas> that is sourced for all users
[11:13] <mirak> hi
[11:13] <no_dammagE> twibbler: IIRC emacs, but i never used it ;) I use vim (NO NO VIvsEMACS pls)
[11:13] <mirak> is there some package of gnome 2.12 ?
[11:13] <Seveas> !ndis
[11:13] <ubotu> well, ndis is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper or http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[11:14] <Seveas> ^-- sandino
[11:14] <robotgeek_> no_dammagE: well...only vi then!
[11:14] <Seveas> !start an editor war
[11:14] <ubotu> nano is better than xemacs
[11:14] <Seveas> *runs*
[11:14] <no_dammagE> joe 4ever
[11:14] <no_dammagE> :)
[11:14] <skalpel> seveas: so i should just add the umask 000 command to my postlogin file? and it will work for all users?
[11:14] <lvraab> and so it begins...
[11:14] <meuserj|work> lol
[11:14] <andrew__> hussam, any ideas?
[11:15] <meuserj|work> vim is the best naturally
[11:15] <Seveas> skalpel, I *think* so, I'm 90% sure...
[11:15] <hussam> andrew__: yes, one sec
[11:15] <no_dammagE> damn, it takes years to install kde on a C400, im away for a smoke (don't kick me pls)
[11:15] <skalpel> seveas: well i will try it and let you know how it goes then ;)
[11:15] <stizoner> flash for firefox? libflash crashes firefox for me
[11:15] <Seveas> skalpel, i appreciate that
[11:15] <Seveas> stizoner, flashplayer-mozilla (from multiverse)
[11:15] <snorks> what flags should /boot and / have? nosuid noauto and that stuff. i am trying to install ubuntu but i dont want to wipe my windows install
[11:15] <twibbler> no_damage: but Vi is an excellent editor ... but not for multiple file handling ... it is by far the most powerful and usefull editor ...
[11:16] <Seveas> twibbler, do you know :sp
[11:16] <Seveas> vim is ideal for multiple files :)
[11:16] <stizoner> yeah i see that in the documentation, there is no such thing
[11:16] <RememberPOL> Hi there
[11:16] <Seveas> hi RememberPOL
[11:16] <no_dammagE> the best texteditor is cat text > file ^^
[11:16] <RememberPOL> Does Ubuntu support automatic online package updating?
[11:17] <RememberPOL> (via apt-get or yum or anything)
[11:17] <stizoner> i enabled all the repositorys to
[11:17] <Seveas> no_dammagE, that's not editing
[11:17] <Seveas> cat > file
[11:17] <Seveas> that is :)
[11:17] <cold_fire[] > Synaotic
[11:17] <snorks> what flags should /boot and / have? nosuid noauto and that stuff. i am trying to install ubuntu but i dont want to wipe my windows install. If you can help, please please do :(
[11:17] <Seveas> RememberPOL, apt-get/synaptic/aptitude
[11:17] <iiiears> echo is nice
[11:17] <Seveas> snorks, the installer will figure that out
[11:17] <twibbler> files files everywhere what we are really after is ultraedit for linux ...
[11:18] <freedomjazzdance> gotta question, how do you list all available wireless networks in range, using warty?
[11:18] <snorks> Seveas, not if i use advanced partitioning. if i use default it will wipe the whole drive
[11:18] <Mystery47_Newbie> hi all!
[11:18] <Seveas> freedomjazzdance, iwlist scan
[11:18] <snorks> Seveas, and i dont want that
[11:18] <cold_fire> i need a little help with pppoe-server + RADIUS? someone?
[11:18] <stizoner> damn theres more questions then there is answers :D
[11:18] <Seveas> snorks, true, but it does not need special flags in the partitioner
[11:18] <Mystery47_Newbie> i have a little problem to get my nvidia work....
[11:18] <Seveas> !nvidia
[11:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[11:19] <stizoner> should have like a number system, grab a number, wait in  line
[11:19] <Mystery47_Newbie> im doing like beginners guide says, but i get this:
[11:19] <wrykyn> It doesn't look like ubuntu has the Eclipse packages. Is there any other way to install it ?
[11:19] <snorks> Seveas, so i should just make boot ext2 and / ext3 and hit enter?
[11:19] <skalpel> what files do i need to edit in order to change a users name?
[11:19] <zerboxx> stizoner: heh "now helping number 34019"
[11:19] <stizoner> lol
[11:19] <Mystery47_Newbie> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[11:19] <Seveas> wrykyn, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java (that has a link to eclipse instructions)
[11:19] <Seveas> snorks, sounds like a good plan
[11:20] <wrykyn> thanks, Seveas
[11:20] <freedomjazzdance> Seveas, ok thanks, but it seems to still not be connecting...
[11:20] <cold_fire> RADIUS + pppoe-server?
[11:20] <Seveas> freedomjazzdance, iwlist scan does not connect to anything :)
[11:20] <freedomjazzdance> Im trying to connect to a router but its not letting me access the internet
[11:20] <Mystery47_Newbie> can somebody help me?
[11:20] <Mystery47_Newbie> i have a little problem to get my nvidia work....
[11:20] <freedomjazzdance> Seveas, i know iwconfig right?
[11:20] <hussam> andrew__: try this. sudo mkdir /usr/lib/qt-3.3/ && sudo mkdir usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs && sudo ln -s /usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/linux-g++/ /usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/defaultdefault
[11:21] <Mystery47_Newbie> im doing like beginners guide says, but i get this:
[11:21] <twibbler> Seveas have you set the wep ..
[11:21] <Mystery47_Newbie> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[11:21] <hussam> andrew__: sorry try this. sudo mkdir /usr/lib/qt-3.3/ && sudo mkdir usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs && sudo ln -s /usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/linux-g++/ /usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default
[11:21] <tristanmike> How do people create a database of all their cd's and dvd's in Linux??
[11:21] <tristanmike> can it be done?
[11:21] <Seveas> Mystery47_Newbie, then install the nvidia packages
[11:22] <Seveas> tristanmike, ghe, I do that on my webserver wit a php app :)
[11:22] <AdmiralCrunch> Text file :P
[11:22] <Seveas> Mystery47_Newbie, install the nvidia-glx package
[11:22] <Mystery47_Newbie> i just installed all nvidia named packages...but i cant still put enable...
[11:22] <tristanmike> Seveas: crap, nice tho, is there a program like Advanced Disk Catalog or WhereIsIt?
[11:22] <sandino> any wireless people here
[11:23] <hussam> andrew__: did you try that?
[11:23] <Seveas> tristanmike, no idea...
[11:23] <stizoner> im old fashined i prefer a cord
[11:23] <muffin_> darkheart, yay q2's running!!!
[11:23] <freedomjazzdance> can i config a wireless connection with pppoeconf??
[11:23] <twibbler> sandion yep ... whats up ...
[11:23] <AdmiralCrunch> tristanmike, you can just write a PHP script, put it on apache
[11:23] <muffin_> darkheart, but only in software x11 :(
[11:23] <Portugues> how can i access windows files by here ?
[11:23] <AdmiralCrunch> mount your windows drive
[11:23] <Seveas> Portugues: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:23] <Mystery47_Newbie> nvidia-glx package is installed....
[11:23] <sandino> twibbler i have a kernel error using ndiswrapper
[11:23] <tristanmike> Seveas: AdmiralCrunch: I'll keep that in mind although I have no idea how to create scripts.....I'm a Linux Virgin
[11:24] <RememberPOL> Are there any ex-slackware users in here?
[11:24] <Portugues> mnt/windows ?
[11:24] <andrew__> hussam, amazing - works
[11:24] <Portugues> thanks Seveas
[11:24] <twibbler> sandino uninstall ndiswraper and reinstall ...
[11:24] <tristanmike> You'd think they'd have something like that, I mean, people have large backup collections Id assume
[11:24] <darkheart> muffin_ Hehe congrats. Do you have the proper drivers installed for your video card?
[11:24] <Seveas> tristanmike, cdcat - media catalog program
[11:24] <tristanmike> YEAHHHHHH!!!!
[11:24] <Seveas> that might be something
[11:24] <Mystery47_Newbie> i cant find nvidia-glx with whereis.....
[11:24] <AdmiralCrunch> tristanmike, ah, gotcha, well you can just do one of those web database things for DVDs and CDs, I have never really used an app like that, so I couldn't tell you much about it on the Linux side
[11:25] <freedomjazzdance> Seveas, how did you configure the wireless card, seems to be connected but no ping of remote or local ips
[11:25] <hussam> andrew__: good
[11:25] <sandino> twibbler http://pastebin.com/340205
[11:25] <muffin_> darkheart, no not yet, but nice idea
[11:25] <Seveas> freedomjazzdance, my wifi setup is quite nonstandard, but there is a wifihowto on the wiki
[11:25] <freedomjazzdance> Seveas, i cant even access the router ip
[11:25] <Seveas> !wifi
[11:25] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:25] <Portugues> just last question, is it possible play counter-strike in ubuntu ?
[11:25] <AdmiralCrunch> yes
[11:25] <AdmiralCrunch> it is possible
[11:25] <Seveas> Portugues, yes it is
[11:25] <muffin_> yes
[11:25] <tristanmike> Seveas: I'll look into it, I am indebted to you kind sir
[11:25] <darkheart> muffin_ What kind of vid card do you have?
[11:26] <muffin_> darkheart, geforce 2
[11:26] <Portugues> nice!
[11:26] <AdmiralCrunch> LinuxQuestions.org has a good Linux gaming board
[11:26] <freedomjazzdance> Doh! thanks guys
[11:26] <AdmiralCrunch> you can figure it out there
[11:26] <twibbler> sandino: use the synaptic to unistal and reinstall ...
[11:26] <sandino> k
[11:26] <Portugues> tks AdmiralCrunch, i will check out now
[11:26] <sandino> i feel like i need kernel sources
[11:27] <twibbler> nope.....
[11:27] <AdmiralCrunch> No problem Portugues
[11:27] <darkheart> muffin_ Okay, not too bad. Shouldn't be too hard with the guide (!nvidia)
[11:27] <twibbler> sandino workstation or server ..
[11:28] <tristanmike> Seveas: if you don't mind, would you suggest that I install the .99-1 version from synaptic or get the 1.0 from the website?
[11:28] <stizoner> !ati
[11:28] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:28] <HLP> yooo
[11:28] <HLP> I need some SATA help
[11:28] <sandino> workstation ..laptop
[11:28] <Seveas> tristanmike, synaptic
[11:28] <muffin_> !nivida
[11:28] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, muffin_
[11:28] <AdmiralCrunch> Yeah HLP what do you need
[11:28] <muffin_> !nvida
[11:28] <ubotu> muffin_: What?
[11:28] <muffin_> !nvidia
[11:28] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[11:28] <HLP> AdmiralCrunch, unbuntu doesnt seem to pick up my harddrive
[11:29] <andrew__> hussam, i'm getting a lot of error now, but i dont know if its the setup or the code i'm trying to compile - it's a stable branch so it should work...
[11:29] <tristanmike> Seveas: I woulda thought. How would I check to see if this will be included in breezy?
[11:29] <HLP> AdmiralCrunch, it is SATA
[11:29] <Seveas> muffin_, the bot gets rude if you don't feed him :)
[11:29] <twibbler> sandino: ok system -> admin -> synaptic .....
[11:29] <ubiquiti1> gdm dies in a few seconds after opening up
[11:29] <Seveas> !botsnack
[11:29] <ubotu> thanks seveas :)
[11:29] <sandino> twibbler all im installing is the ndiswrapper-utilities
[11:29] <chez> i'm having trouble building a bluetooth application from source, can someone give me a hand? can't find bluetooth.h, hci.h is the error msg
[11:29] <tristanmike> Seveas: sorry for the 20 questions
[11:29] <sandino> twibbler there now.. removed it
[11:29] <AdmiralCrunch> Does the drive show up at all when you look at /dev HLP?
[11:29] <ubiquiti1> why's this? also how would i force vga=771 or nofb with grub?
[11:30] <AdmiralCrunch> Like sda1 sdb2?
[11:30] <HLP> AdmiralCrunch, i dont belivbe so i have tried /dev/hdc   hda sda
[11:30] <HLP> all them
[11:30] <twibbler> sandino ok reinstall
[11:30] <Seveas> tristanmike, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:30] <tristanmike> Seveas: you are a credit to this community sir
[11:30] <AdmiralCrunch> HLP open up your terminal
[11:30] <twibbler> sandino    is it PCMCIA or inbuilt ...
[11:30] <HLP> AdmiralCrunch, k opened
[11:30] <AdmiralCrunch> and type mount
[11:30] <HLP> k
[11:30] <AdmiralCrunch> do any other hard drives show up
[11:30] <Seveas> tristanmike, it's 1.0-2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=cdcat&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[11:31] <ubiquiti1> X works through startx fine (with the user root, in the single-user mode)
[11:31] <HLP> AdmiralCrunch, checking now
[11:31] <sandino> twibbler built in
[11:31] <twibbler> ok ndiswraper -l from prompt ...
[11:31] <sandino> ok reinsalled
[11:31] <Seveas> ubiquiti1, re: the grub question: add the kernel parameters to the '# kopt' line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub
[11:32] <no_dammagE> will ubuntu setup my printer automatically/is there a wizard or do I have to configure it manually?
[11:32] <sandino> twibbler sandino@earache:~$ ndiswrapper -l installed ndis drivers: bcmw15  invalid driver!
[11:32] <tristanmike> thanx all :)
[11:32] <Seveas> no_dammagE, system -> administration -> printing has a 'new printer' wizard
[11:32] <tristanmike> see ya later, take care
[11:32] <twibbler> sandino ..... ndisdriver -e bcmwl5
[11:33] <no_dammagE> Seveas: thanks, ill just have to wait until full kubuntu-desktop has been downloaded (half gig ;) )
[11:33] <sandino> did that.. says no drivers installed
[11:33] <twibbler> excellent ...
[11:33] <twibbler> so what is your wifi card i.e linksys
[11:33] <sandino> broadcom
[11:33] <ubiquiti1> what's this header problem with apt-get
[11:34] <ubiquiti1> i can't install packages, it starts to "wait for the headers" indefinitely and another time yesterday it failed to download a package i could install easily manually after wgetting it
[11:34] <iiiears> Seveas - Three questions at a time for awhile there. - nice :)   (Faxes a Pepsi)
[11:36] <twibbler> sandino ... do you have the .inf driver file ...
[11:36] <Seveas> ubiquiti1, hmm, maybe a failing mirror
[11:36] <Seveas> iiiears, eeek
[11:36] <Seveas> I hate that :)
[11:36] <iiiears> lol - Pepsi?
[11:36] <sandino> twibbler yes
[11:37] <ubiquiti1> Seveas: thaks
[11:37] <ubiquiti1> thanks, even
[11:37] <twibbler> ok however the linux driver is here http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/downloaddrivers.php
[11:37] <darkheart> lol...throw baby in lake?
[11:37] <sandino> twibbler wrks fine in slackware and freebsd
[11:37] <no_dammagE> darkheart: well, shit happens ^^
[11:38] <sandino> thats why the error i think is kernel sources
[11:38] <twibbler> and the zip file has an rpm ....
[11:38] <twibbler> so download unzip and alien the rpm so you dpkg the .deb
[11:39] <ubiquiti1> Seveas: hmm... i get the same both with us.archive.ubuntu.com and gb.archive.ubuntu.com at least
[11:39] <darkheart> no_dammagE Hehe, well, it was pretty random/funny.
[11:39] <Seveas> ubiquiti1, odd
[11:39] <Seveas> try archive.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <twibbler> thus should avoid the kernel and having to use ndiswrapper ..
[11:40] <darkheart> ubiquiti1 You need a /ubuntu/ at the end of those domain names also.
[11:40] <Sponge_> How do I improve video speed on cedega? I tried to play starcraft, but the video is quite slow (but not choppy). I downloaded and installed the latest nvidia drivers, but I don't know what else can I do.
[11:40] <hussam> andrew__: what error?
[11:41] <c0rrupt_> i used cedega to play unreal tournament
[11:41] <c0rrupt_> xD
[11:41] <sandino> twibbler thards.. not wireless ..?ats for ethernet c
[11:41] <c0rrupt_> works fine
[11:41] <sandino> oops
[11:41] <thiago_> irc.brasnet.org
[11:41] <sandino> twibbler that seems for ethernet.. not wireless .. ?
[11:41] <penticlex> how di I fix grub
[11:42] <twibbler> ok ..... there are three drivers which one is for your card ?...
[11:42] <twibbler> if not we go back to ndiswrapper ...
[11:42] <penticlex> my primary HDD crashed witch had grub in the MBR
[11:43] <penticlex> I loaded the live cd thats how I am on know
[11:44] <penticlex> I cant apt get from hear and the I cant get to a shell on the install cd
[11:44] <sandino> twibbler neither of those are mine.. i have the inf files from the xp disk
[11:44] <no_dammagE> penticlex: chroot into your system (mount /dev/rootdevice /mnt/rootmount , mount -t proc none /mnt/rootmount/proc , chroot /mnt/rootmount /bin/bash , source /etc/profile . then call grub-install)
[11:44] <Sponge_> I need help with cedega.... any volunteer?
[11:44] <twibbler> ok put somewher usefull and open command prompt as root .
[11:45] <sandino> k
[11:45] <skalpel> can someone tell me what files to edit to change a users name?
[11:45] <snorks> ok, my harddrive, sda (sata disk)), contains 1 partition with ntfs on it for win xp. if i chose to install ubuntu, would simply defining sda2 (130 GB) as installpartition be sufficient? will ubuntu fix own partitions for boot and swap?
[11:45] <no_dammagE> penticlex: it requires that the root filesystem is of course alive/exists (the grub configuration file in /boot/grub IIRC)
[11:46] <hussam> andrew__: what errors do you get?
[11:46] <penticlex> it is xp was on my primary drive
[11:46] <penticlex> thanks
[11:46] <no_dammagE> penticlex: did it work?
[11:47] <no_dammagE> penticlex: i hope yes, but even if grub-install succeded, you can be only 100% sure after a reboot ^^
[11:48] <firebird619> Can anyone help me with a modem issue. I downloaded the drivers for PCTel modems that support my kernel (2.6.10-5-386) and installed them. According to lsmod, all of the modules for the modem that the README file says should be there are there, however, I cannot connect to the Internet with my modem. Could someone please help me?
[11:49] <snorks> !howto scanner
[11:49] <ubotu> snorks: Not a clue
[11:49] <bina> anyone know of a good file comparison prog?
[11:50] <no_dammagE> penticlex: is there no xp anymore? or did everything stay as was (devices I mean) if devices changed the numbers, you should modify /boot/grub/grub.com ...
[11:50] <snorks> ok, my harddrive, sda (sata disk)), contains 1 partition with ntfs on it for win xp. if i chose to install ubuntu, would simply defining sda2 (130 GB) as installpartition be sufficient? will ubuntu fix own partitions for boot and swap?
[11:50] <DJMirage> bina: diff
[11:51] <cafuego> snorks: yes
[11:51] <c0rrupt_> what does this error mean
[11:51] <no_dammagE> snorks: you will 100% need at least 2 partitions: / and swap. What's the problem to create them? (if you choose to delete the who harddisk it should create a reasonable partition table)
[11:51] <c0rrupt_> or how can it be fixed
[11:51] <c0rrupt_> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config
[11:51] <c0rrupt_> no such file or directory
[11:51] <bina> DjMirage: nice, thanks
[11:51] <cafuego> snorks: Actually, no. make sure sda2 desn't exist and make ubuntu automatically use the available free space
[11:51] <DJMirage> np ;)
[11:52] <c0rrupt_> ?
[11:52] <c0rrupt_> trying to compile rtl8180 drivers
[11:52] <rebel_> any cedega chamsp around?
[11:53] <c0rrupt_> i use cedega
[11:53] <rebel_> play eq?
[11:53] <c0rrupt_> no
[11:53] <c0rrupt_> ;\
[11:53] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to fix the follorwing error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~
[11:53] <skalpel> bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:53] <c0rrupt_> plx help compiling driver
[11:53] <c0rrupt_> Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config: No such file or directory
[11:53] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to fix the following error? /home/skalpel/pics/21697_turtles.jpg
[11:53] <rebel_> damn, well i used the *deb to install and everything worked, ran worse than winxp
[11:53] <rebel_> so i decided to use the cvs and i can't get eq to run
[11:53] <guido_> cafuego, snorks: I think the only "automatic" option the installer has is to use the whole drive, not free space
[11:53] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to fix this error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~
[11:53] <skalpel> bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:54] <skalpel> ca someone tell me how to fix this error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~
[11:54] <skalpel> bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:54] <skalpel>  hear and the I cant get to a shell on the install cd
[11:54] <skalpel> 16:44 < sandino> twibbler neither of those are mine.. i have the inf files from the xp disk
[11:54] <inva|id> skalpel: take it easy, someone will answer if they know
[11:54] <skalpel> 16:44 < no_dammagE> penticlex: chroot into your system (mount /dev/rootdevice /mnt/rootmount , mount -t proc none /mnt/rootmount/proc , chroot /mnt/rootmount /bin/bash
[11:54] <c0rrupt_> why would you do that anyway skalpel
[11:54] <skalpel>                     , source /etc/profile . then call grub-install)
[11:54] <skalpel> bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:54] <c0rrupt_> stop spamming you twat
[11:54] <skalpel> bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:54] <skalpel> bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:54] <skalpel> bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:55] <no_dammagE> votekick
[11:55] <skalpel> bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:55] <no_dammagE> :)
[11:55] <skalpel> bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> votekick skalpel
[11:55] <inva|id> votekick skalpel
[11:55] <snorks> guido_, if i tell ubuntu to use all available space on my harddrive, thats all available except winxp, it will setup stuff automagically?
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> hows it work?
[11:55] <no_dammagE> lol, it doesn't work :)
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> Lol
[11:55] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to fix this error? bonnie@emachine:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R ~/
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> damn
[11:55] <skalpel> bonnie is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> skalpel shut the fuck up
[11:55] <no_dammagE> it is from old HL times
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> too bad
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> ;\
[11:55] <skalpel> c0rrupt_: very sorry, my screen was not scrolling
[11:55] <c0rrupt_> .........
[11:55] <no_dammagE> ./ignore skalpel
[11:55] <darkheart> lol
[11:56] <Mystery47_Newbie> hi! How i can uninstall enemy territory?
[11:56] <skalpel> my apologies.
[11:56] <guido_> snorks, if I remember correctly "all" means all and not "only free space"
[11:56] <Seveas> jeez
[11:56] <Seveas> what an idiot
[11:56] <darkheart> skalpel It means they don't have permission to use sudo...try the command 'visudo'
[11:56] <no_dammagE> Mystery47_Newbie: IIRC there is an uninstallation script in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory
[11:56] <Mystery47_Newbie> thanks
[11:56] <no_dammagE> Mystery47_Newbie: cd there and ls, see if there is something to uninstall ;) np
[11:56] <Mystery47_Newbie> cd /usr/local/games/enemy-territory
[11:57] <guido_> snorks, I mean i think it will wipe xp if you do that
[11:57] <darkheart> Console question: If ctrl+a takes you to the beginning of the line, what takes you to the end?
[11:57] <no_dammagE> Mystery47_Newbie: else: rm -rf /usr/local/games/enemy-territory, rm -rf /home/user/.etwolf (or .wolfet, i don't remember it correctly),  whereis et, rm -rf /path/to/et
[11:58] <no_dammagE> Mystery47_Newbie: IIRC by default /path/to/et is /usr/bin/et ...
[11:58] <no_dammagE> Mystery47_Newbie: but im pretty sure there is an uninstaller
[11:58] <dech> I was wondering if anyone would be able to point me in the right direction to find out how to install my soundblaster audigy 2, i have just installed kubuntu and am /quite/ impressed, but my soundcard seems to not be installed :)
[11:58] <Seveas> !audigy
[11:58] <ubotu> somebody said audigy was muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[11:58] <Seveas> hth
[11:58] <amonkey> can i spoof windows? my school's internet check's for approved os's to help against spyware, and i need it to look like XP
[11:59] <dech> Aha thanks ill do that now :)
[11:59] <codecaine> amonkey, spoof your browser?
[11:59] <Seveas> amonkey, they want windows against spyware?!?
[11:59] <Seveas> that's such an oxymoron...
[11:59] <WhyvasMct> hahahahha
[11:59] <codecaine> yeah sounds completely backwards
[11:59] <codecaine> Anyone in here successfully load latest breezy live cd?
[11:59] <Seveas> amonkey, but what exactly do you want to spoof?
[11:59] <no_dammagE> amonkey: lol, windows against spyware, ok. Well, on what level are they filtering? TCP? HTTP? if HTTP, then a lot of browsers support spoofing e.g. Opera
[12:00] <Seveas> firefox too :)
[12:00] <stizoner> i cant get used 2 the file layout of this... anyways, where would the right place to put xchat addons?