| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 12:00 UTC Wednedsay 24 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
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| cyphase | hey everyone | 01:27 |
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| ogra | hi cyphase | 01:27 |
| cyphase | anyone here live in the San Francisco bay area? | 01:27 |
| ogra | <-- gremany | 01:27 |
| cyphase | hey ogra | 01:27 |
| ogra | germany even | 01:27 |
| cyphase | lol | 01:27 |
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| !lilo:*! catbert is passing among you, changing ident fields from I= to i= and N= to n= for consistency | 03:32 | |
| !lilo:*! affected users, about 3,500 | 03:32 | |
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| jsgotangco | hello | 03:56 |
| !lilo:*! Hi all. Apparently one of our servers has lost contact with the internet, we're looking at it. Apologies for the inconvenience. | 05:05 | |
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| !lilo:*! Another main rotation server has lost contact; apologies for the inconvenience. | 05:23 | |
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| cyphase | hey everyone | 06:16 |
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| highvoltage | Is everyone angry at me? The channel is always quiet when I join :) | 08:40 |
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| ogra | hey highvoltage | 08:49 |
| highvoltage | hi ogra :) | 08:53 |
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| jsgotangco | hi all | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: ping? | 10:51 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, hi | 10:54 |
| jsgotangco | hi, do we have a final listing already of what's going in and not, what's our best feature/software, etc.? | 10:54 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/desktop | 10:55 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/server | 10:55 |
| ogra | thats what we have in... the commented stuff isnt moved to main yet | 10:55 |
| ogra | 90% of the desktop seed is identical with ubuntu | 10:56 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 10:56 |
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| JaneW | jsgotangco: lol, marilize had the same problem... map it back to US - easier | 10:58 |
| JaneW | late meetings suck... hard to do everything straight away afterwars, and feel like crap the next day :/ | 10:58 |
| jsgotangco | this doesn't even have a proper $ key | 10:59 |
| jsgotangco | hmm we have mediawiki ok | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | hmm too bad for moodle and schooltool | 11:14 |
| ogra | what? that we have mediawiki ? | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | its not commented out | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | oh wait | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | we only have mysql-server | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | # means waiting main inclusion? | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/server | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | what is edubuntu-server a meta package? | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | hmm no mail server | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | this getting hard | 11:19 |
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| highvoltage | eddie is so idealistic. | 11:25 |
| highvoltage | ned flanders for president! | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | ?? | 11:26 |
| jsgotangco | simpsons? | 11:26 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, only local transport.... we dont want the teachers to set up a mailserer for a single classroom install.... | 11:26 |
| jsgotangco | local transport meaning internal email? | 11:28 |
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| jsgotangco | ogra: i am having a hard time re-writing our manual in a cookbook context because tuXlab is so full featured and I have very little idea of what we currently have except those that are seeded | 11:29 |
| jsgotangco | stuff like internet access, proxy, etc. | 11:29 |
| highvoltage | sorry! wrong window, I meant to type that in another channel. lol. | 11:30 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, we'll have a ltsp environment out of the box, you'll only have to give the ip range for the dhcp server, everything else will be automatically.... | 11:32 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, the thin client desktop will look like a ubuntu with the additionaly edu apps | 11:32 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, you will reach the mediawiki setup page by accessing http://localhost/wiki/, moodle by http://localhost/moodle and schooltool in a similar way... | 11:33 |
| jsgotangco | i thought those things are not included? | 11:34 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, the first user you add will be the admin user, all further added users will be normal users by default, like in ubuntu... | 11:34 |
| ogra | not *yet*, they all have main inclusion reports that are pending review | 11:34 |
| jsgotangco | but is it safe to say they *will* be included? | 11:35 |
| ogra | they will have to.... | 11:35 |
| Marky | hmm.. | 11:35 |
| jsgotangco | ok im installing the daily now so if i get it right, all ordinary users in the server box are automatic ltsp users | 11:36 |
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| ogra | jsgotangco, follow my instructions please... http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | 11:37 |
| ogra | but you need a thin client for that | 11:37 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, its likely that the 20050819 iso is broken again, somehow the iso from yesterday got deleted | 11:38 |
| jsgotangco | ok sorry i didnt notice your email on that | 11:38 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 11:38 |
| ogra | i'm just trying to sort that.... | 11:38 |
| jsgotangco | ok so we'll have no messaging server or something similar | 11:41 |
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| ogra | nope | 11:42 |
| ogra | the users have evolution, they can point it to every server they like | 11:42 |
| jsgotangco | ok so no filtering as well like squidguard | 11:43 |
| jsgotangco | basically Ubuntu on LTSP | 11:44 |
| ogra | yep | 11:45 |
| ogra | all other stuff was postponed | 11:45 |
| jsgotangco | are we still pushing for a gartoon icon set? | 11:46 |
| ogra | yep | 11:47 |
| ogra | its already propsed for main, just not moved | 11:47 |
| ogra | additionally we might take sabayon for kiosk functionallity | 11:47 |
| jsgotangco | aren't we affected by feature freeze? | 11:48 |
| ogra | we are, why ? | 11:48 |
| jsgotangco | just a thought, so i guess its all about finishing those inclusion reports? | 11:48 |
| ogra | demoting software from universe to main isnt affected by feature freeze | 11:49 |
| jsgotangco | demote? | 11:49 |
| jsgotangco | promote | 11:49 |
| ogra | yes | 11:49 |
| ogra | sorry, wrong term | 11:49 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm | 11:50 |
| jsgotangco | i just have too much time on my hands lately, that's all :) | 11:50 |
| jsgotangco | night, i'll just come back later dinner first | 12:19 |
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| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Wed 24 Aug 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | CALL FOR TESTERS: to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| JaneW | highvoltage: ping | 02:39 |
| ogra | JaneW, only 5 yellow ones left :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMainInclusion | 02:45 |
| JaneW | :)) | 02:47 |
| ogra | only the violet ones are my nightmares:) | 02:48 |
| JaneW | 2? | 02:52 |
| JaneW | and the red one? | 02:53 |
| ogra | thats what moodle causes to be violet... i have to replace the code from wwwconfig-common there | 02:55 |
| JaneW | oic | 02:56 |
| JaneW | comic relief -> http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2843830 | 02:56 |
| JaneW | ogra: do you know if highvoltage is testing LTSP? | 02:57 |
| JaneW | ogra: also is ThinClientIntegration testing any different in reality to edubuntu testing? | 02:58 |
| ogra | yes, a bit, since we get more out of edubuntu testing for edubuntu indeed | 02:59 |
| ogra | but technically its the ame | 02:59 |
| ogra | same | 02:59 |
| JaneW | ok | 02:59 |
| JaneW | so the LTSP part is identical? | 02:59 |
| ogra | yup | 02:59 |
| ogra | but i'd prefer tests of edubuntu if possible :) | 03:00 |
| JaneW | ok | 03:00 |
| ogra | still 19h to go for my iso upload :/ | 03:01 |
| JaneW | well lets encourage ppl to test edubuntu (assuming we can again now?) and then feedback to mdz on LTSP? | 03:01 |
| ogra | even with rsync its not faster | 03:01 |
| ogra | as soon as i have uploaded the iso... (19h as i said... but its jumping to 4h from time to tim, so i dont know how serious i can take it) | 03:02 |
| ogra | 53% | 03:02 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: pong | 03:07 |
| JaneW | hello highvoltage | 03:08 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: mdz told me last night that you are one of his offical LTSP testers... so I am jyst following up ;) | 03:09 |
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| highvolt1ge | sorry about that. | 03:11 |
| highvolt1ge | Hi Jane. | 03:11 |
| JaneW | ogra: contentfiltering...? | 03:12 |
| JaneW | ogra: mdz thinks it's deferred - do you agree? | 03:12 |
| ogra | yup, was his request | 03:12 |
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| highvoltage | strange. | 03:13 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: mdz told me last night that you are one of his offical LTSP testers... so I am just following up ;) | 03:14 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: afaik, yes :) | 03:15 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: I sent him some info, and I'll send him more feedback over the weekend. | 03:15 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: mdz needs feedback on testing, and more testers... | 03:15 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: ok great, thanks | 03:15 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: I just emailed elmo about the passwords for the server, he hasn't sent me any details yet. | 03:23 |
| JaneW | mutter | 03:23 |
| JaneW | hack them? | 03:24 |
| JaneW | *joke*! | 03:24 |
| highvoltage | hehe. | 03:24 |
| JaneW | ogra: sorry but PowerManagementConfiguration you previously said 1-2 days... | 03:33 |
| JaneW | matt said powermanagementconfiguration isn't in desktop yet, but it _might_ be ready to go but just sitting in universe | 03:33 |
| JaneW | is that correct? | 03:33 |
| ogra | nope, it needs adjustment... the design is very similar to network manager and it needs similar but easier changes | 03:35 |
| ogra | you can use it as s from universe currently to display the status of all battery driven devices, but you cant manage them | 03:37 |
| ogra | s/as s/ as is/ | 03:37 |
| ogra | i wanted to have it ready over the weekend, but the edubuntu drawbacks were not planned and steal a lot of time now... | 03:39 |
| ogra | (currently i need to work on nvu, but my DSL only gives me about 4k while uploading the CD, i cant even download the source for it at a usable speed) | 03:40 |
| ogra | :( | 03:40 |
| JaneW | :( | 03:46 |
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| highvoltage | will the edubuntu wiki be merging with the main ubuntu wiki? | 05:50 |
| ogra | i think so.... | 05:52 |
| highvoltage | ogra: the banner on top will then say ubuntu, which is not a problem, i think. or should it say edubuntu? | 06:13 |
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| ogra | highvoltage, rather edubuntu... | 06:36 |
| highvoltage | i wonder if you can have different banners for different pages. maybe a css hack. then again, how would the user choose that it's an edubuntu page or not? | 06:38 |
| mpt | highvoltage: By including "CategoryUbuntu" in the page somewhere (usually at the bottom) | 06:52 |
| mpt | er, "CategoryEdubuntu" :-) | 06:52 |
| highvoltage | ah, ok. | 06:58 |
| cyphase | does anyone in san francisco know anything about the explosion that just happened? | 07:07 |
| cyphase | http://www.kgoam810.com/listenlive/listenlive.pls - will have info about the explosion in SF | 07:18 |
| cyphase | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/baycitynews/archive/2005/08/19/explosion19.DTL | 07:20 |
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| ioio24 | hello | 08:51 |
| highvoltage | hello ioio24 | 08:52 |
| ioio24 | i install ubuntu in a partition of 1GB... i install the server mode because i dont have too much space... | 08:53 |
| ioio24 | the Q is: | 08:53 |
| ioio24 | How can I now install gnome? | 08:53 |
| ioio24 | I must install first "x windows" and then gnome? | 08:54 |
| highvoltage | sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment should do it, i think | 08:54 |
| highvoltage | it will select the dependencies and stuff you need to run gnome. | 08:55 |
| ioio24 | wau...! so simple? | 08:55 |
| ioio24 | soo simple? | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | yep | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | ah, wait | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | you could just do | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 08:56 |
| highvoltage | even simpler :) | 08:56 |
| ioio24 | :)) | 08:56 |
| ioio24 | the apt tool use the cd or internet to do this? | 08:56 |
| ogra | ioio24, depends how you configure it, if you use apt-cdrom toadd the CD, it will use the CD (see man apt-cdrom) | 09:05 |
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| !lilo:*! if you're a tor user with a group cloak (i.e., any cloak but "unaffiliated"), and you've been experiencing problems with your group cloak being overwritten by your tor cloak, please message me | 09:52 | |
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