=== ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. MEETING NOTICE: Next meeting is scheduled for 12:00 UTC Wednedsay 24 Aug on #ubuntu-meeting. | to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting === cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-67-125-91-62.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:27] hey everyone [01:27] hi cyphase [01:27] anyone here live in the San Francisco bay area? [01:27] <-- gremany [01:27] hey ogra [01:27] germany even [01:27] lol === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu === cyphase [n=cyphase@adsl-67-125-91-62.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === sinplomo [n=sinplomo@196.206.71.68] has joined #edubuntu === sinplomo [n=sinplomo@196.206.71.68] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] [03:32] !lilo:*! catbert is passing among you, changing ident fields from I= to i= and N= to n= for consistency [03:32] !lilo:*! affected users, about 3,500 === jsgotangco [n=user@202.57.71.235] has joined #edubuntu [03:56] hello [05:05] !lilo:*! Hi all. Apparently one of our servers has lost contact with the internet, we're looking at it. Apologies for the inconvenience. === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-8.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu [05:23] !lilo:*! Another main rotation server has lost contact; apologies for the inconvenience. === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu === cyphase [n=cyphase@69.111.160.232] has joined #edubuntu [06:16] hey everyone === ska [n=Ska@201.240.149.23] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === jd86 [n=jim@ip68-9-97-23.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:40] Is everyone angry at me? The channel is always quiet when I join :) === ska [n=Ska@201.240.149.23] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:49] hey highvoltage [08:53] hi ogra :) === ogra [n=ogra@p5089CFDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jgotangc@202.57.71.236] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] hi all [10:51] ogra: ping? [10:54] jsgotangco, hi [10:54] hi, do we have a final listing already of what's going in and not, what's our best feature/software, etc.? [10:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/desktop [10:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/server [10:55] thats what we have in... the commented stuff isnt moved to main yet [10:56] 90% of the desktop seed is identical with ubuntu [10:56] hmm === jsgotangco struggles with UK keyboard === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [10:58] jsgotangco: lol, marilize had the same problem... map it back to US - easier [10:58] late meetings suck... hard to do everything straight away afterwars, and feel like crap the next day :/ [10:59] this doesn't even have a proper $ key [11:08] hmm we have mediawiki ok [11:14] hmm too bad for moodle and schooltool [11:15] what? that we have mediawiki ? [11:15] its not commented out [11:16] oh wait [11:16] we only have mysql-server [11:16] # means waiting main inclusion? [11:16] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/server [11:16] what is edubuntu-server a meta package? [11:19] hmm no mail server [11:19] this getting hard === Marky [n=chatzill@61.247.44.23] has joined #edubuntu [11:25] eddie is so idealistic. [11:25] ned flanders for president! [11:26] ?? [11:26] simpsons? [11:26] jsgotangco, only local transport.... we dont want the teachers to set up a mailserer for a single classroom install.... [11:28] local transport meaning internal email? === pere_gone is now known as pere [11:29] ogra: i am having a hard time re-writing our manual in a cookbook context because tuXlab is so full featured and I have very little idea of what we currently have except those that are seeded [11:29] stuff like internet access, proxy, etc. [11:30] sorry! wrong window, I meant to type that in another channel. lol. [11:32] jsgotangco, we'll have a ltsp environment out of the box, you'll only have to give the ip range for the dhcp server, everything else will be automatically.... [11:32] jsgotangco, the thin client desktop will look like a ubuntu with the additionaly edu apps [11:33] jsgotangco, you will reach the mediawiki setup page by accessing http://localhost/wiki/, moodle by http://localhost/moodle and schooltool in a similar way... [11:34] i thought those things are not included? [11:34] jsgotangco, the first user you add will be the admin user, all further added users will be normal users by default, like in ubuntu... [11:34] not *yet*, they all have main inclusion reports that are pending review [11:35] but is it safe to say they *will* be included? [11:35] they will have to.... [11:35] hmm.. [11:36] ok im installing the daily now so if i get it right, all ordinary users in the server box are automatic ltsp users === Marky [n=chatzill@61.247.44.23] has left #edubuntu [] [11:37] jsgotangco, follow my instructions please... http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting [11:37] but you need a thin client for that [11:38] jsgotangco, its likely that the 20050819 iso is broken again, somehow the iso from yesterday got deleted [11:38] ok sorry i didnt notice your email on that [11:38] :) [11:38] i'm just trying to sort that.... [11:41] ok so we'll have no messaging server or something similar === jsgotangco crosses that out [11:42] nope [11:42] the users have evolution, they can point it to every server they like [11:43] ok so no filtering as well like squidguard [11:44] basically Ubuntu on LTSP [11:45] yep [11:45] all other stuff was postponed [11:46] are we still pushing for a gartoon icon set? [11:47] yep [11:47] its already propsed for main, just not moved [11:47] additionally we might take sabayon for kiosk functionallity [11:48] aren't we affected by feature freeze? [11:48] we are, why ? [11:48] just a thought, so i guess its all about finishing those inclusion reports? [11:49] demoting software from universe to main isnt affected by feature freeze [11:49] demote? [11:49] promote [11:49] yes [11:49] sorry, wrong term [11:50] hmmm [11:50] i just have too much time on my hands lately, that's all :) [12:19] night, i'll just come back later dinner first === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DB2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089FEDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089EC6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089DA0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra__ is now known as ogra === ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Wed 24 Aug 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | CALL FOR TESTERS: to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting [02:39] highvoltage: ping [02:45] JaneW, only 5 yellow ones left :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMainInclusion [02:47] :)) [02:48] only the violet ones are my nightmares:) [02:52] 2? [02:53] and the red one? [02:55] thats what moodle causes to be violet... i have to replace the code from wwwconfig-common there [02:56] oic [02:56] comic relief -> http://www.tonight.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=2843830 [02:57] ogra: do you know if highvoltage is testing LTSP? [02:58] ogra: also is ThinClientIntegration testing any different in reality to edubuntu testing? [02:59] yes, a bit, since we get more out of edubuntu testing for edubuntu indeed [02:59] but technically its the ame [02:59] same [02:59] ok [02:59] so the LTSP part is identical? [02:59] yup [03:00] but i'd prefer tests of edubuntu if possible :) [03:00] ok [03:01] still 19h to go for my iso upload :/ [03:01] well lets encourage ppl to test edubuntu (assuming we can again now?) and then feedback to mdz on LTSP? [03:01] even with rsync its not faster [03:02] as soon as i have uploaded the iso... (19h as i said... but its jumping to 4h from time to tim, so i dont know how serious i can take it) [03:02] 53% === rayde [n=rayde@vs217.das.psu.edu] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] JaneW: pong [03:08] hello highvoltage [03:09] highvoltage: mdz told me last night that you are one of his offical LTSP testers... so I am jyst following up ;) === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] sorry about that. [03:11] Hi Jane. [03:12] ogra: contentfiltering...? [03:12] ogra: mdz thinks it's deferred - do you agree? [03:12] yup, was his request === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [03:13] strange. [03:14] highvoltage: mdz told me last night that you are one of his offical LTSP testers... so I am just following up ;) [03:15] JaneW: afaik, yes :) [03:15] JaneW: I sent him some info, and I'll send him more feedback over the weekend. [03:15] highvoltage: mdz needs feedback on testing, and more testers... [03:15] highvoltage: ok great, thanks [03:23] JaneW: I just emailed elmo about the passwords for the server, he hasn't sent me any details yet. [03:23] mutter [03:24] hack them? [03:24] *joke*! [03:24] hehe. [03:33] ogra: sorry but PowerManagementConfiguration you previously said 1-2 days... [03:33] matt said powermanagementconfiguration isn't in desktop yet, but it _might_ be ready to go but just sitting in universe [03:33] is that correct? [03:35] nope, it needs adjustment... the design is very similar to network manager and it needs similar but easier changes [03:37] you can use it as s from universe currently to display the status of all battery driven devices, but you cant manage them [03:37] s/as s/ as is/ [03:39] i wanted to have it ready over the weekend, but the edubuntu drawbacks were not planned and steal a lot of time now... [03:40] (currently i need to work on nvu, but my DSL only gives me about 4k while uploading the CD, i cant even download the source for it at a usable speed) [03:40] :( [03:46] :( === jsgotangco [n=jgotangc@info1-71.info.com.ph] has joined #edubuntu === pere is now known as pere_gone === mpt [n=mpt@200.101.54.223] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] will the edubuntu wiki be merging with the main ubuntu wiki? [05:52] i think so.... [06:13] ogra: the banner on top will then say ubuntu, which is not a problem, i think. or should it say edubuntu? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:36] highvoltage, rather edubuntu... [06:38] i wonder if you can have different banners for different pages. maybe a css hack. then again, how would the user choose that it's an edubuntu page or not? [06:52] highvoltage: By including "CategoryUbuntu" in the page somewhere (usually at the bottom) [06:52] er, "CategoryEdubuntu" :-) [06:58] ah, ok. [07:07] does anyone in san francisco know anything about the explosion that just happened? [07:18] http://www.kgoam810.com/listenlive/listenlive.pls - will have info about the explosion in SF [07:20] http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/baycitynews/archive/2005/08/19/explosion19.DTL === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-8.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu === ioio24 [i=io@200.41.21.222] has joined #edubuntu [08:51] hello [08:52] hello ioio24 [08:53] i install ubuntu in a partition of 1GB... i install the server mode because i dont have too much space... [08:53] the Q is: [08:53] How can I now install gnome? [08:54] I must install first "x windows" and then gnome? [08:54] sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment should do it, i think [08:55] it will select the dependencies and stuff you need to run gnome. [08:55] wau...! so simple? [08:55] soo simple? [08:55] yep [08:55] ah, wait [08:55] you could just do [08:56] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [08:56] even simpler :) [08:56] :)) [08:56] the apt tool use the cd or internet to do this? [09:05] ioio24, depends how you configure it, if you use apt-cdrom toadd the CD, it will use the CD (see man apt-cdrom) === LinuxJones [n=willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-136-127.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:52] !lilo:*! if you're a tor user with a group cloak (i.e., any cloak but "unaffiliated"), and you've been experiencing problems with your group cloak being overwritten by your tor cloak, please message me === mattfletcher [n=matt@mattspc.matt-fletcher.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.74.68] has joined #edubuntu === mattfletcher [n=matt@mattspc.matt-fletcher.co.uk] has left #edubuntu []