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lwizardlhi12:15
lwizardlin kubuntu how do i install programs that have files like "firefox-1.0.6.installer.tar.gz"12:16
Elsidoxxlwizardl: you have to extract the file first. With something like ark. Than run the installer if there is one or compile it12:16
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lwizardlok i'll try12:17
lwizardlthanks that worked12:18
lwizardlhow in konquerer do i clear the history, location bar12:20
Elsidoxxlwizardl: no problem. =)12:21
Elsidoxxlwizardl: and as for your secoudn question i dont know. sorry12:22
lwizardlso far i'm liking kubuntu, i just wish was setup like mandriva, but mandriva had issues with my sound card,usb,nic and kubuntu auto installed it12:23
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_rolandohow can i configure my panel, so that i have different subcategories in each caterogy?12:25
_rolandofor example:internet i wanna have browsers, IM, chat,.....12:26
_rolandomail12:26
_rolando,.....12:26
isaihow do I listen to mp3 shoutcasts?12:26
tencoversteh ich nicht 12:26
_rolandoand not all the programs in there12:26
_rolandowirklich?12:26
tencowarum besteht mozilla-mplayer auf mozilla-browser?12:27
tencodas ist doch nurn plugin12:27
_rolandokannst du englisch?12:27
tencoich?12:27
tencoja12:27
_rolandomplayer plugin is what you need12:27
_rolandoany1 knows about my problems with the start menu?12:28
tenco#-) thougt i was on #ubuntu-de12:28
tencosorry12:28
_rolandonp penco12:28
tencoforgot to switch channels12:28
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McScrufflo12:35
McScruffhelp, my main panel is messed up12:35
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tencoi am searching for an app which works like del.ic.ious for local files instead of bookmarks (tagging)12:46
tencolike: i can tag files and let list the app files which have i certain tag12:47
tencos/i/a/12:47
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lwizardlhi12:52
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lwizardlcan someone explain to me what kubuntu uses for the nvidia nforce drivers?12:53
lwizardlbecuase kubuntu is the only linux os that i get sound in12:55
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PeakerHow do I re-invoke the network configuration that appeared in the installation?01:18
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_staticIf it is legal for you to use css, you can run01:27
_static'/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh' at any time to01:27
_staticdownload and install it.01:27
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jeffm_hey guys01:30
jeffm_can someone help me with my interfaces file?01:30
jeffm_ive got wireless lan, but when i do ifup wlan0 i get 'too few parameters for iface line'01:30
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jeffm_wow01:58
jeffm_anyone home?01:58
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PeakerThe new KDE that's available in kubuntu is pretty damn cool ;)02:17
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stizoneroperation not permited, setlenghts fails.....   is what i get when i try to open a torrent to seed with azurues02:18
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peakerHey, I tried dist-upgrade'ing, and now I get my root filesystem unmounted in the middle of all apt operations. (the dist-upgrade failed in middle cause of that). I suspect its because of an error on / since the mount options includes remount-ro on-error, but any idea if this is a known bug?02:28
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peakerapt is spitting out way too much information such that konsole/screen cant scroll back to see the originating error, and redirecting stderr does not work for some reason02:30
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p0z3rmy console screen is borked after doing an install.02:46
p0z3rit cycles around like a television without good reception.02:46
p0z3ranyone have any idea how to get around this?  I can boot recovery mode.02:46
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jeremican some one help me get my clock to show in 12hr format instead of military time03:14
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jsubl2jeremi, right click on the clock and select date and time formats03:16
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jeremiya didnt log out to test it when I did that03:21
jeremii should read the popups more03:21
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jeremiwhat about changing the graphical greater?03:22
jeremii couldent find an option in kde only gnome03:23
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peakerHmm.. I don't get it, I try to MAKEDEV audio, and it runs all of the mknod commands, but the /dev items are not created! when I run the commands manually, it works.. what gives?03:24
peakerIs there a weird makedev or /dev hack in ubuntu?03:24
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EasterSunshinehey currently, only breezy ubuntu is out? not breezy kubuntu?03:30
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nxv_hi, i have trouble running topcoders learning area03:44
nxv_can somebody test if this works for him/her?03:44
nxv_javaws ./javaws http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletGoogle.jnlp03:44
nxv_javaws http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletGoogle.jnlp03:44
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PurpleMotionHai, fsckers!04:06
SbCl3where are the ops?04:06
PurpleMotionlurking, i suppose04:07
SbCl3i wonder which freenode channel has the most users-04:07
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jsubl2the new add/remove programs on the new colony 3 cd under gnome looks pretty good.  but, i would still rather use kde04:15
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JeevanSbCl3:  #gentoo04:23
Jeevanthen debian then ubuntu04:23
SbCl3are you sure?04:27
SbCl3(is there a way to look this up)?04:28
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EasterSunshinesbcl3: type /list . either your client will time out from flood, or it will list in order all teh visible channels on the server04:46
EasterSunshineeww...too many ops in gentoo its scary04:46
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_shawn_hi05:14
_shawn_ has anyone upgraded kubuntu to breezy yet?05:15
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_shawn_so noone has upgraded kubuntu to breezy?05:28
EasterSunshineno one that is not idle05:34
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_shawn_ok05:35
EasterSunshineplease do not sit in front of computer watching the screen waiting for a repsonse05:36
penticlexis there just no kdmrc file in ubuntu?05:36
EasterSunshinethey come sometimes one month later05:36
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_shawn_ya acctually I asked the same question in the forum05:37
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seth_kI'm running Breezy on both my computers05:40
seth_k@ _shawn_ 05:40
_shawn_no issues?05:40
_shawn_well majior ones05:40
seth_knone that I didn't know how to fix05:40
_shawn_ok sounds good05:41
_shawn_how's it compare to horay... is it worth upgrading/05:42
_shawn_?05:42
_shawn_*hoary05:42
_shawn_@ seth_k05:42
seth_kDunno, I've been running Breezy since Hoary + 1 day05:43
seth_kso I don't remember what Hoary was like05:43
_shawn_ah I see05:43
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narghrm... Am I missing something, or is Azureus not in the repos?06:02
satafterhanyone here use zsnes and get sound working06:02
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jeremitrying to get a list of users to show w/ kde06:16
jeremican nome one help06:16
jeremi?06:16
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jeremiits for the login screen06:16
nargsomehow pipe the output of who though a wrapper06:17
nargpossibly using pyqt06:17
narghow you get it on login screen... good luck :p06:17
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tgnbgood evening06:49
jeremiany one here?06:54
tgnbi'm here06:57
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jeremibrb07:04
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penticlextrying to get userlist to show in login screen07:07
dell500can anyone help me burn a dvd backup??07:07
penticlexits easy w/ gnome07:07
penticlextry K3b i thik that will make backups for dvd's07:09
dell500well i have the files07:11
dell500but i'm not sure what to do with them07:11
dell500i have IFO, VSI, XVO files07:11
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nargburn as data, dell500?07:13
dell500burn as video07:13
dell500so i can watch it07:13
dell500??07:17
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tgnbi just installed firefox but it didnt create a menu item in my kde menus.. is it supposed to?07:20
tgnbnevermind i logged out and back in and its there now07:22
tgnbhowever i do get an error when i launch it and its interface is dead ugly.. i guess the default gtk theme is yucky and has tiny fonts07:22
tanghustgnb: by default it looks for an html page which is contained in the ubuntu-artwork package - is that the error u get?07:29
tgnbyeah07:29
tgnbi guess i can change the homepage to blank07:29
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tanghusyep - or apt-get install ubuntu-artwork07:30
dell500no one knows about the dvd backup stuff??07:32
tgnbok i installed the newest ATI drivers and 2d is using the fglrx driver now instead of the ati driver. but dri fails to load. the X log says "incompatible kernel module detected HW accelerated OpenGL will not work"07:40
tgnbthe kernel version is 8.8.25 and the drivers i installed are 8.16.2007:40
dell500does anyone know what VSI, XVO, and IFO files are for a dvd backup?07:48
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tgnbhmm i guess maybe i dont have any kernel headers installed07:52
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paineshi07:59
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gfox^IRCyo guys08:44
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drawagoathey whats the command to see system info in terminal?09:11
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[ITA] MisterXHI ALL! :)10:16
paineshi10:17
[ITA] MisterXFinally, I can play AA on kubuntu 8-)10:17
painesamerica' army ?10:17
painess10:17
[ITA] MisterXof course :)10:18
kalenedraelwhat are you using?10:18
[ITA] MisterXWhat do you mean with ''using''?10:18
[ITA] MisterXOS, Pc Hardware, PG Career (:D), etc...10:19
[ITA] MisterXAnyway... Ain't using any antivirus or firewall...10:22
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BTJusticeKubuntu is cool, lol.  I am happy.10:38
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painesanyone know a tool which would parse lspci or ddcprobe and map that to the corresponding X gfx driver ?10:40
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hettarI see that there is a new ubuntu colony 3 has been released. Any chance kubuntu will be releasing a preview any time soon11:26
CellarDoorUT2004 has installed on my kubuntu system !11:34
CellarDoorwoohooo !11:34
CellarDoorUT2004 has never installed for me on any other distro11:34
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hettarTHe linux version ?11:35
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nikkiaurgh, i hate gnome!!11:49
PieDnikkia: that's just natural :)11:49
nikkiapied, why do they have to (*&( with files that KDE uses too ?11:50
nikkiabrb, gonna try and sort this mess out, a little11:50
painesthats right. you install gnome to take a look at it, and you can never get rid of the gnome animated icons11:51
paineseven if you are running kde and deinstalled gnome11:51
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nikkianope, system hosed, all thanks to gnome11:52
CellarDoorhettar, yes :D11:54
Chousukenikkia: What does gnome do that broke your system? 11:55
nikkiaChousuke: it trashed all of KDE's .desktop files when update-desktop-database was run11:55
Chousuke:/11:55
Chousuketrashed how?11:55
nikkiadeleted11:56
CellarDoorah that would be pretty annoying11:56
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nikkiaCellarDoor: i don't run it11:56
nikkiaCellarDoor: but i wanted to try and get thunderbird to open links in firefox11:57
CellarDoor?11:57
CellarDoorwhy would you need gnome for that ?11:57
nikkiaCellarDoor: thunderbird and firefox both use gnome for their mime-types handling11:57
nikkiaergo, thunderbird uses whatever gnome thinks is the right application to open a link11:57
nikkiawhich somehow seems to be quanta+11:57
CellarDooroh11:57
CellarDoorI didn't know that11:58
nikkiaCellarDoor: the mozilla apps are all gnome apps :/11:58
nikkiawell, they claim to be gtk2, but they actually dig into gnome settings for a lot of stuff when you delve into the 'gtk2' code in the source11:58
CellarDoorI have firefox11:58
nikkiaCellarDoor: when i say 'mozilla apps' i mean, mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, sunbird, etc11:59
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CellarDoorbut i only use it when konqueror crashes or wont work on some sites11:59
CellarDoornikkia, yea thats pretty crappy11:59
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jpatrickopss12:01
CyberMadhello, does anyone know chat software based on LAN which support MultiPlatform (at least support Linux & Windows) and run PeerToPeer(P2P), so no need server?12:02
painestalk12:02
CyberMadpaines talk?12:02
painesoh no, talk only runs on unixes i think12:03
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nikkiayou could use microsoft messaging12:03
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CyberMadnikkia so what is the software name on linux?12:04
nikkiaCyberMad: can't remember :/12:04
CyberMadi hope the software is opensource / freeware12:04
paineslinpopup12:04
nikkiaCyberMad: i know i've sent messages to windows machines with it from linux tho12:04
paineslike winpopup12:04
painesor linneighbourhood12:05
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CyberMaddoes with linpopup i can know who's online?12:06
CyberMadbecause afaik winpopup can not do that12:06
CyberMadpaines afaik linneighborhood just for file sharing ? cmiiw12:06
nikkiaCyberMad: i don't think you're going to find anything that matches what you want12:06
nikkiait sounds like you want a full blown IM, but the fact is, you're not going to find a server-less IM12:06
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CyberMadon windows i already use Network Assistant that support P2P, but not support linux :(12:08
CyberMadin fedora channel.. someone tell me to use Skype12:09
CyberMadbrb check skype feature12:09
ilba7rcyberMad what do you wana do exactly?12:09
nikkiaCyberMad: you'd be better off installing an intranet jabber server, tbh12:10
CyberMadthere is no server here, i mean there is no computer online for long time12:10
jpatrickToo bad Bonjour doesn't work on Linux12:11
CyberMadi need chat software based on LAN which support MultiPlatform (at least support Linux & Windows) and run PeerToPeer(P2P), so no need server? and i can know who's online12:11
jpatrickwait you could use Gaim12:11
ilba7rqnext12:11
CyberMadafaik gaim need server12:11
ilba7rits excellent for file sharing12:11
ilba7rgoogle it12:11
jpatrickBonjour is server-less chat12:11
CyberMadilba7r is that chat software or file sharing software?12:12
CyberMadjpatrick ok.. i google it12:12
ilba7rboth p2p12:12
CyberMadilba7r ok i google it too12:12
ilba7rits really superb 12:12
jpatrickGaim has Bonjour I think - last time I looked :)12:12
jpatrickSo does anyone know what the theme is?12:13
jpatrickCyberMad: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bonjour/12:14
nikkiajpatrick: christ, they changed the name AGAIN ?12:15
jpatrickYeah they did12:16
jpatrickpretty annoying :p12:16
nikkiamakes you wonder why they don't just stick to the official name, ZeroConf, and have done with it12:17
hettarNot their fault. SOme hit them with a trademark suit12:17
nikkiahettar: yes, it IS their fault12:17
hussamhow can list the "time modified" when using the dir command?12:17
jpatrickI like the Dashboard widgets12:18
nikkiahettar: ZeroConf has no trademark issues, its been called ZeroConf since before apple started trying to find a name to call their version12:18
CyberMadjpatrick so where is bonjour for linux, err can't found it :P12:18
hettarZeroConf is the protocol. you don't have to name software that implements a network protocol after the protocol12:19
CyberMadi think qnext is cool ;)12:19
jpatrickCyberMad: I think there's a Gaim plugin12:19
CyberMadCyberMad ic, gaim plugin for bonjour, right?12:20
CyberMaderr12:20
nikkiajpatrick: as far as i can tell, its in cvs, but not in the releases12:20
jpatrickyeah 12:21
CyberMadwew QNext 30 MB12:21
nikkiahettar: Bonjour is the protocol12:21
nikkiahettar: as was Rendezvous12:21
CyberMadok, i will try bonjour & gaim later12:22
nikkiahettar: the software that implemented Rendezvous wasn't even called Rendezvous, it was called mDNSresponder, ffs12:22
CyberMadright now i was downloading QNext (both: linux & windows version)12:22
ilba7rcyberMad qnext is java appl12:22
ilba7rno need to install :)12:23
CyberMad??12:23
kinfowhat?12:23
CyberMadhow do you run qnext if you don't install it12:24
ilba7rjava qnext12:24
ilba7rand you already have java12:24
ilba7rlet me get you the script i have i think they download it to you12:24
ilba7ryap you just click on the qnext icon after untarring it12:25
CyberMadso what is this: qnext.tar.bz2 ?12:25
ilba7rok untar it in a directory12:26
ilba7rright moust click and say extract here12:26
CyberMadbunzip2 qnext.tar.bz212:26
CyberMadtar -xf qnext.tar12:26
CyberMadcd qnext12:26
CyberMad./qnext12:26
ilba7ri normally click on it by the mouse botton12:27
ilba7rjust check if it is executable12:27
CyberMadok, i guess i miss-understood meaning of word "install"12:28
ilba7rdid you run it12:30
ilba7rok got to go its not that hard to run and set take care12:31
CyberMadok12:33
CyberMadthanks d00d12:33
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nikkiaheh, oops !! :P12:37
nikkiawhen my boss complained about the responsiveness of my project, i just told him 'its written in java, not much i can do'12:37
nikkiajust discovered a 20mS sleep in the main loop12:37
nikkiai must have put it there when it was very early on and there wasn't enough going on to keep the refresh from happening 'way too fast'12:38
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gsuvegre12:57
gsuvegwhere can i add a new wm to kdm ?12:58
seaLneooh some point recently the torrent trackers started working again12:59
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CyberMadhow to run skype on LAN ?01:01
CyberMad:)01:01
jpatricko.O01:06
nikkiaCyberMad: good luck, skype is horrible to setup :P01:07
nikkiait uses OSS and can't be dsp wrapped01:07
nikkiaso you can't use it at the same time as artsd or any other sound server, or any other sound app01:07
painesso get an emu10k1 based card which can play >30 stream at the same time01:08
nikkiapaines: not that easy, since creative are now selling SBLive's that don't have emu10k101:08
painesnikkia, what ? really ?01:09
paineswhat a sad world01:09
nikkiapaines: yeah, that was the whole basis of JWZ's rant01:09
nikkiahe bought a SBLive 'cos its supposed to work in linux' and got one of the new cards without hardware mixing01:09
painesjamie zawinski ?01:09
nikkiayeah01:09
paineshrhr01:09
painesall right01:09
paineshave to read that01:10
nikkiaabout a month or two ago he ranted about linux audio, then bought a mac01:10
painesthanks nikkia 01:10
paineshaha, i can remaber how he ranted about linux video / dvd software. the masses at slashdot went nuts01:10
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nikkiahe didn't used to rant this much...01:11
nikkiaaltho i remember once seeing a webcam of his office and thinking 'what a nutcase' :P01:12
paineswell, anyway, i can understand it when he get pissed of about some things. he is too long in this business01:12
nikkia(which was about a week after bumping into him at the supermarket :)01:12
painesohh01:12
painesso you live in sf ?01:13
nikkiano, at the time i lived in mountain view01:13
nikkiaworked just opposite netscape's buildings01:13
painesahh. i see01:13
nikkiaJWZ and myself both apparently shopped at the same safeway on Shoreline01:14
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zsolthey there01:14
nikkiawhich was always a fun supermarket for a geek01:15
nikkiaas occasionally you'd see the parking lot full of cars with license plates like 'SGI 1' and so on :P01:15
zsoltdo you know a good howto about networking? google isn't my friend today01:16
nikkiazsolt: you probably want the one thats on www.debian.org somewhere01:16
zsoltthx01:16
nikkiathere is a general howto for networking on linux.org, but it isn't very debian-ised, the concepts involved with /etc/network/interfaces are quite a bit different01:17
nikkiaaltho, with the debian one, you'll need to bear in mind that on [k] ubuntu ifupdown isn't really used per se, network initialisation is done by hotplug instead01:17
painesnikkia, intressting. must be cool to chat some well known computer geek like jwz01:18
nikkiapaines, actually, my real 'brush with geek famedom' was carrying Vint Cerf's bags at SFO one day :)01:19
nikkiamy boss was one of his buddies (worked on TCP/IP together) and was going with Vint's wife to pick him up from the airport for a birthday surprise, and asked if i'd like to tag along to meet him01:20
paineshehe. cool01:21
zsoltok what i want to do isn't very complicated. i want to assign a static ip to eth0 and set the default gateway to my router's ip. i think that's all i need01:22
CyberMadnikkia thanks for answer.. :) sorry i was away from keyboard01:22
zsoltbut every tutorial shows me a different way, with config files i don't even have01:22
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douglashow do I add a custom installed desktop environment to kubuntu's session list?01:24
nikkiazsolt: you want something like:   http://pastebin.com/34064901:27
zsoltexactly, but where the heck do i put this?01:28
nikkiain /etc/network/interfaces01:28
nikkiawhich is 'the debian way' :)01:29
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zsoltyea :) all i found was "the redhat way"01:29
zsoltthnaks01:29
nikkiai told you to use the debian howtos :)01:31
nikkiaand pointed out that there is a slight difference, debian uses ifupdown to make the contents of /etc/network/interfaces take effect, whereas [k] ubuntu uses hotplug (which indirectly uses ifupdown)01:31
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zsoltyour a noob's hero :)01:33
McScruffi have a small error, when i boot up, it sometimes hangs on the searching for hotplugs01:35
McScruffany idea why?01:36
jpatrickIt does that :| sometimes01:36
zsolti hope i'm back soon, without the help of dhcp :)01:37
nikkiafor me, it was always usb-storage that caused it01:38
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zsoltit's working01:42
zsolt:)01:42
jpatrickI can't load my personal data from address book :-/01:46
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zsolti'm looking at the networking howto at debian.org, and it doesn't mention /etc/network/interfaces, all it uses is ifconfig and route01:47
nikkiahmmm01:48
zsoltwhich i read most people just put into a script to get things done at startup01:49
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nikkiayou didn't read far enough :P01:49
nikkiahttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-high01:49
nikkiathe manual refers to 'low level configuration', then goes on to 'high level configuration' (how you SHOULD config it), which IMO is a bad way to present the info, as people will read the low-level and do it, then be confused01:50
nikkiabut then, confusion  seems to reign unchecked when it comes to /etc/network/interfaces, it doesn't help that the man pages don't document the file fully, either01:50
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zsoltoh well, i learned something useful today01:51
zsolti'm gonna bookmark this little reference, it'll be handy next time01:51
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nikkiafor example, that manual uses dns-nameservers, but iirc, that command isn't documented in the man page for interfaces01:52
zsolthmm01:53
nikkiaand indeed, it doesn't01:53
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zsoltoh there was an other thing i wanted to ask about creating new users. i put my bro into the "users" group, then logged in with his name, and i got an error saying access is denied to /dev/dsp 01:58
zsoltso there would be no sound01:59
zsoltsomehow i don't think changing the access rights to /dev/dsp is the right solution02:00
paineszsolt, add your bro to /etc/group->audio02:00
zsoltoh02:00
zsoltis there anything else i should do as well when creating new users? like how do you usually do it?02:01
paineshmm02:02
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maxy_noobHi guys!02:03
zsoltok i added him to audio. and video and sudo to be able to sudo from his shell02:03
paineszsolt, how did you add the new account. via console or graphical interface02:04
maxy_noobcan I just cut in?02:04
zsoltgraphical02:04
painesmaxy_noob, just ask02:04
paines;-)02:04
paineszsolt, to be honest, never did it with an graphical interface always by hand, so I set up the group permissions also02:05
maxy_noobokey dokey. I'm just trying to get my home network to work on kubuntu. It's a cinch in ubuntu (i.e. gnome), but KDE doesn't seem to be cooperating.02:05
zsoltthat's fine with me, i like bash better02:06
maxy_noobI try to switch to administrator mode but nothing happens after I enter my password. Options remain greyed out.02:06
paineszsolt, fine. then lear about usermod. man usermod02:06
zsoltokie, thanks02:06
painesmaxy_noob, of which app are we speaking ?02:06
paineszsolt, np02:06
maxy_noobKDE Control Module (Network Settings)?02:07
zsoltoh that locks up for me too02:07
maxy_noobIs there another way then?02:07
maxy_noobI need to enable and configure eth002:09
zsoltnikkia just explained this to me a few minutes ago02:09
zsolti think i might be able to help with the basics now02:09
maxy_noobCan you give me a synopsis?02:10
zsoltyou should edit /etc/network/interfaces02:10
maxy_noobfrom where?02:10
zsoltyou can do kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces02:11
zsoltpress alt+f2 to do so02:11
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maxy_noobafter I enter my password nothing happens.02:12
zsoltit should bring up kate02:12
maxy_noobok, now it did02:13
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zsoltgood02:13
maxy_noobnow?02:13
zsoltmy guess is it already has something under eth002:14
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zsoltiface eth0 inet static02:14
maxy_noobactually, nothing's in there about eth002:14
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maxy_noobJust a command about the primary network interface card being eth102:15
edvardashello02:15
zsoltok well i can give you how mine is set up, but i think it'd end in a flood kill so let's go private02:15
maxy_noobok02:16
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Kitty-Kunhi!02:20
Kitty-Kunrarararar!02:20
CellarDoorWell, I got UT2004 to install but I don't know how to install the mods02:21
CellarDoor#unrealtournament02:23
CellarDooroops02:23
Kitty-Kun... this channel is QUIET02:23
CellarDoormmm02:23
painesNO IT ISN'T02:23
paines;-)02:23
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Hobbseehey all - if i'm installing a beta version of open office 2, do i need to get rid of open office 1.1? If so, will it affect anything else?02:24
painesHobbsee, no, they can coexist02:25
zsoltthanks for all the help, i'm gonna go eat something, see ya all later02:25
Hobbseecool - could I get rid of it if I wanted to?02:25
CellarDoorI've experienced the beta crash a bit02:25
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painesHobbsee, yup02:25
katrinahello02:25
painesHobbsee, apt-get remove openoffice.org02:25
painesyould do the job02:25
Hobbseeexcellent, thanks02:25
painesnp02:26
katrinahow do i apt-get  the openoffice version 2?02:26
Hobbsee:) i'm still rather new, and the forums seem to have just gone down02:26
katrinahow do i apt-get  the openoffice version 2?02:26
painesdont' know. but last night i testes breezy developmen aka colony 3, and it had oo2. so best is you ask ubuntu-devel02:28
Hobbseeyou can grab it via synaptic02:28
Hobbseeor kynaptic, if you prefer02:28
CellarDoorkatrina, if you use "find" in kynaptic its easy to find and install :)02:28
katrinathe latest verion? version 2? i think not02:29
Hobbseeyes, katrina02:29
Hobbseedidnt check in kynaptic, but it's definetly there in synaptic02:29
CellarDooryep definately there in kynaptic02:30
Hobbsee:)02:30
Hobbseegoing to get it...02:30
Hobbseeit's not apt-get openoffice.org 202:30
Hobbseelol02:30
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CellarDoorsudo apt-get openoffice.org202:31
CellarDoormethinks02:31
Hobbseeinvalid operation02:32
CellarDoorooer02:32
CellarDoorI haven't tried it :P02:32
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CellarDoorI've actually already got it02:32
Hobbseei think i'll really have to give in and go through synaptic02:32
_katrinahot02:32
_katrinashow me hot to apt-get OoO version 202:33
Kitty-Kunwould you recommend kubunty for a computer with a ~800 MHz amd processor?02:33
Hobbseeyes, well i did on windows...but that work under this now does it :P02:33
CellarDoor_katrina, just open up kynaptic, click on the edit menu and in the 'find' window type openoffice and you will see the files come up, just click on openoffice.org2 and I expect it will automatically select the others as well02:34
MrPoke_katrina: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org202:34
CellarDooraah02:34
MrPoke_katrina: that should do it02:34
CellarDoorsilly me, I forget "install"02:34
CellarDoor:P02:34
MrPokeCellarDoor: I saw that only after a few my self02:35
Hobbseeyep, that's it02:35
MrPokeCellarDoor: I forget get cause I have a alias for apt-get install set to i, and yes I am lazy 02:35
CellarDoor:)02:35
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Hobbseethat's clever MrPoke02:36
Hobbseesomeday i'll end up doing that...havent even had this installed for 24 hours yet02:36
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MrPokeHobbsee: #echo "alias i='sudo apt-get install '" >> ~/.bash_profile02:39
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nikkiawow, now that was a hack02:42
_katrinathanks guys02:42
nikkianeeded to upload the differences between two machines copies of a directory, knocked up a quick ruby script that compared m5sum lists, then fed the output to xargs tar zcvf /tmp/difference.tgz  :)02:43
painesruby ?!?! wasn't there somwthing slower02:45
nikkiapaines: yeah, because speed really matters when comparing 2 files *rolls eyes*02:46
paineshrhr02:46
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MrPokenikkia: speed of the hard drive maybe 02:49
nikkiaMrPoke: no, the point is, i couldn't care less if it takes 2 seconds, or 2 minutes to generate a list of files that i need to upload, i just need it done without spending an afternoon writing a program to compare the lists (and no, diff doesn't do the job)02:50
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MrPokeI have to say I love it when someone puts my nick in a msg with Konversation, the alert I have set up it just sexy 02:55
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MrPokewhy o why did I ever use xchat :-p02:56
nikkiaMrPoke: *shrug* i bet its not as good as the kvirc alert :P02:56
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Hobbseewoohoo!  open office 2 works from that :D03:07
Hobbseeooh it's much prettier than the windows version!03:08
jpatrickI prefer KOffice03:09
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_stefhello :-)03:09
Hobbseei liked bits of it...03:09
jpatricklo03:09
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Hobbseehi _stef03:09
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_stefI have a problem with kcontrol and samba03:10
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_stefI want to add a samba user but when I add a user the apply button is not active03:11
_stefIt is not possible to connect from a 2003 Server03:11
_stefThere is an authentification Problem03:12
_stefCan someone help?03:12
_stefIm using th newest kde environment03:13
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Hobbseeum...no clue sorry03:15
_katrinahow can i view ubuntu linux users from our LAN? can i use example: \\mark ?03:15
Hobbseenite all...03:15
_stefOkay I'll try it on the kde mailinglist03:15
_katrinahow can i view ubuntu linux users from our LAN? can i use example: \\mark ?03:16
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katrinahow can i view ubuntu linux users from our LAN? can i use example: \\mark ?03:18
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ORiONkatrina: what do you mean view? as in samba shares?03:19
ORiONheh, you spam the channel and then don't reply.03:21
katrinayes.03:21
katrinai shared my flder using samba but the other computer cnt see my shared doccs03:22
ORiONshould be \\WORKGROUP\sharename03:23
ORiONdid you set the correct workgroup?03:23
katrinahow do i set the workgroup from kde? 03:24
katrinaso sorry for being so newbie stupid03:24
_stefkatrina: go to kcontrol > samba there you can configure all03:25
ORiONI believe you need to set it in kcontrol->Internet & Network-> Samba03:25
ORiONthe workgroup needs to be the sme as whatever workgroup the windows machines are on03:26
ORiONsame*03:26
katrinaok will try it03:27
katrinacan i also see linux users?03:27
jpatrickyes03:29
jpatrickI don't think it has to be the same03:29
nikkiaand you can *generally* tell them apart from the windows users, as it'll have 'samba server' in the machine description03:30
nikkia(i say generally, because OSX and other samba-using OSs will appear the same)03:30
katrinaok i can see them..but i also have oher users on linux but i cant see them..only windows shares03:31
jpatrickthat's okay :/03:32
nikkiakatrina: you'll only see linux users if they've actually configured samba :)03:32
katrinalinux users are also on the same workgrp - kainos 03:32
katrinau mean if they have share some files or direstories?03:32
jpatrickMy brothers and sister's computer shows up as Windows server03:32
nikkiakatrina: basically, yes03:33
katrinahow can i see them from my pc under linux? what shall i configure in samba03:33
nikkiasee who? the linux users that haven't got samba running ? that's going to be tricky, there really isn't any way to find a linux machine on the LAN unless it wants to be found :)03:34
jpatrickuse fish:/ for Linux :)03:34
jpatrickconfigure your NetBIOS name:03:35
katrinaso we all have to have the same netbios name?03:35
jpatrickno03:35
jpatrickdifferent03:35
nikkiajpatrick: its not going to help in finding *others* unless they all configure their netbios name03:36
katrinaeach pc have to have a different netbios03:36
nikkiajpatrick: and the bottom line is, if the other linux machines are configured to be quiet, there will be no way, short of reconfiguring them all, to see them all03:36
jpatrickoh03:36
katrinaafter confg my netbios name say katrina... then they can acces me using smb://katrina ?03:36
nikkiakatrina: yes03:37
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nikkiakatrina: but samba should use the hostname as the nmb-hostname anyway, by default03:37
katrinaok ill try now03:37
jpatrickI thought it was smb://{workgroup}/{computer}03:37
nikkiajpatrick: workgroup is optional03:37
jpatrickyeah03:38
nikkiajpatrick: you can go straight to smb://hostname/   or \\hostname on windows03:38
katrinawhat shall i do with the server string?03:38
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tigermbis it possible to make mozilla be the default renderer of konqueror instead of khtml?03:44
jpatricktigermb: Control Center > KDE com. > Com. Chooser03:46
tigermbrenderer03:47
tigermbnot default browser03:47
tigermbi want konqueror to use gecko03:47
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yudihello...03:53
jpatricklo03:53
nikkiaheh, i wonder if the debian lists are awash with moaning and hand-wringing over the linux trademark fees yet03:53
nikkiaand i wonder if anyone will suggest taking it out of debian, like they did with firefox :)03:54
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yudido you know how to make shortcut to Qnext ? i already did ln -s qnext/qnext Qnext03:58
yudibut nothing happen03:58
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yudimy position is same level like qnext folder03:58
yudii can run qnext from qnext folder with command ./qnext03:59
yudibut i want make a link of qnext to my desktop area03:59
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yudiplease some one help me04:00
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bobuseyudi: right-click on your desktop and choose "Create a new"->"Application shortcut"04:04
yudiyes i did04:04
yudii already create a shortcut... and the command i link to qnext application04:05
yudibut when i run the shortcut... not working04:05
yudijust hour glass come out04:06
yudiand very long time04:06
yudi:(04:06
bobuseIf you want to could call your app in a shell you must have a link to your app in the PATH (environment variable)04:06
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bobuseDo you have given the full path to your app in the Shortcut creation dialog box ?04:07
yudiwait04:07
paines_yudi, make sure that the execution path is lying in the qnext folder04:07
yudiwork path: /home/yudi/Program/qnext04:08
yudiok its work04:08
yudi:D04:08
yudifinally04:08
yudithanks04:08
bobuseIn the dialog box, on the third tab ("Application" in french), make sure the field "Command" (the third) is correctly filled04:08
bobuseok04:08
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yudido you know how to make qnext when minimize to the system tray?04:09
yudiit's like kopete04:10
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yudii want to install xChat is it ok to download & install the rpm version for kubuntu?04:13
paines_no04:13
paines_apt-get install xchat04:13
yudiok04:13
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yudihehe.. i'm forget, how to use root in kubuntu04:15
yudisudo?04:15
jpatrickyeah04:15
paines_yo04:15
yudiafter i am login as root, i can use apt-get install xchat ,right?04:16
paines_sudo commd04:16
paines_command04:16
sproingieor use aptitude, it'll prompt you for root04:16
bobuseyudi: Do you have tried konversation ?04:16
yudii did04:17
sproingiekonversation would be nice if it didn't constantly crash on me04:18
yudii'm on konversation right now04:18
yudibut i want to use xChat04:18
yudixchat looks nice to me04:18
bobuseyudi: it's ok ;-)04:18
jpatrickxChat: eww04:18
sproingiethey all look about the same to me.  stable is what i like04:18
yudiok04:19
yudiin main package04:19
yudinet04:19
yudimain04:19
yudixchat i found it04:19
nikkiaxchat was ok before they dumbed it down :/04:19
sproingienikkia: the story of gnome04:19
nikkiasproingie: indeed, the dumbing took place with the 2.0 release04:19
yudiok and then on xchat i press 'g'04:20
nikkiapersonally, i think kvirc is a better client anyway04:20
nikkiabut the one in the repositories is too old04:20
yudii need xchat to use a sharing script04:21
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nikkiayudi, using other people's scripts is a bad idea04:21
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yudinope.. it's ok, i believe the script maker04:22
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nikkia'NOW 199, WAS 200'04:23
nikkiaoh, the bargain! the bargain!!!04:23
yudidon't know what this aptitude doing :((04:23
yudii already press g on xchat04:23
sproingieyou have to select it first with +, then press g04:24
sproingiethat'll take you to the confirmation page, where you press g again04:24
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sproingiethen if you're not root it asks you for  your password to sudo04:24
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yudiok04:25
yudi i already choose xchat and xchat-common with +04:25
yudiand those highlited with green04:25
yudiok... press g04:25
yudiyeahh...04:25
yudiconnecting!04:25
yudihmmm... it's hard ya, using linux without internet connection04:26
yudiimho04:26
yudiqnext is slow... grrrr04:27
yudi:)04:27
yudibut it's ok... qnext at least support LAN, YM, AIM, ICQ, MSN04:28
yudibut i still searching how to move the qnext apps from taskbar to system tray :(04:29
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ChaKylast night I have installed KDE 3.4.2 from Kubuntu mirrors. And now I have login in KDE just fine. But I can not see icons in my desktop for CD-ROM, DVD-RW, Home and Computer. I only have Floppy Drive icon on desktop. What can be a problem for this?04:33
ChaKyI am usually using Ubuntu with Xfce and Gnome desktop.04:34
ChaKybut just wanted to try KDE.04:34
yudii guess some ppl not here at the moment04:35
bobuseChaKy: Maybe sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:36
jpatrickhow do I share files via NFS?04:37
bobuseChaKy: sorry, Ive read too fast ^^04:37
yudisamba?04:37
bobuseChaKy: Even if you put a cd or dvd in your drive ?04:37
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sproingieubuntu's kde configuration is brutally minimalistic, it's like gnome that way04:39
yudilooks like ubuntu package (specially xchat) use debian package...04:39
sproingiedevice icons won't show up unless you have media in them04:39
ChaKybobuse: heh, I didn't try to put CD or DVD in drive. I will try to do that now04:40
sproingieif you rightclick the desktop, select "configure desktop", select "behavior", then the "device icons" tab, you can select which ones show up04:40
yudii didn't see any icon too in my desktop04:40
ChaKysproingie: I have [X]  chacked to show mounted and unmounted device icons04:40
sproingienot sure what the problem is then04:41
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pax_yudi: you are using debian. cat /etc/debian_version 04:42
_yudidon't know.. when i see installing progress from aptitude i see *.deb04:42
_yudijust a guess... ;)04:42
sproingiethat's correct04:42
sproingieubuntu is based on debian04:42
_yudiok... :)04:43
sproingiejust don't try adding third-party debian repositories like marillat04:43
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yuditest04:43
sproingieit'd be like adding a suse repository on a redhat system04:43
yudioh yeahh... X-Chat !!!04:44
ChaKyOK, I have put CD in drive, mounted it, and it show device icon. than, I unmounted and it still show icon. But when I ejected CD from drive, the icon has dissapear04:44
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paxChaKy: just the way it should be.04:44
ChaKyIs it possible to show icon all the time with and without CD in drive04:44
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CyberMadtest04:45
ChaKyWhen I used Slackware with KDE, the device icons were all the time at desktop04:45
paxadd it manually. 04:46
jpatrickRight click the desktop > Configure Desktop > Behaviour04:46
CyberMaddoes setting for NAT in kubuntu same like the others linux distro?04:46
jpatrickThen device icons04:46
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jpatrickCheck the ones you want04:47
ChaKyjpatrick: everythig is checked there, but there is no Icons when I remove CD from drive04:47
jpatrick:-/04:47
ChaKystrange, I know04:48
CyberMadwew,... where is KWrite in kubuntu? can't find it...04:48
jpatrickKate, or Kedit04:48
CyberMadcan't find either for Kate or Kedit :P04:49
CyberMadso it's need installation again?04:49
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jpatrickshould be in Utilities04:49
CyberMadupss04:49
ChaKyjpatrick: when I have icons for devices on desktop, it's a easy way to mount and unmount it with mouse. With this now, I have to open Konsole and use 'mount /media/cdrom'04:50
CyberMadok ok found it04:50
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roninohi04:51
roninoi just installed a fresh kubuntu, but it didn't ask me for the root password, so how can i set it?04:51
roninoor what is the default one?04:51
CyberMadnothing04:52
paxChaKy: right click the desktop > create new > link to device > chose one > edit device04:52
aseigoronino: it's set up to use sudo04:52
nikkiachaky, iirc, slackware does it without using the 'device icons' options04:52
CyberMadit's true didn't ask u a root password04:52
aseigoronino: so you either use sudo for everything or if you want a root passwd, you do: sudo passwd04:52
CyberMadi'm new too in kubuntu04:52
nikkiaChaKy: i think it does it by having a script that runs at each kde startup, which produces .desktop files that match the devices in /etc/fstab04:53
nikkiai ran slackware for years, and i remember being constantly annoyed at those icons to the point where eventually i tracked down the script and stopped it executing :P04:53
roninoaseigo: okay, but trying to use "sudo passwd" it asks me for the password but i haven't set one ;-)04:54
jjesseuse the password of the account you created on logon04:54
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ChaKypax: thanks. I will try that.04:54
jjessedefault install of ubuntu/kubuntu disables root and uses the username of the first account created04:54
ChaKynikkia: I no idea.04:55
roninojjesse: hehe, okay, that worked, thx, but they should tell you that during installation ;-)04:55
jjessei thought they did04:55
jjessei haven't reinstalled in awhile04:55
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roninohmm, now i've changed the root password, tried to start some kcontrol module in system management mode, but i can only access it with the user password, the root one's doesn't work04:57
roninosome friend of mine told me this would be a known bug, isn't it?04:57
jjessethe root account is disabled04:58
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roninojjesse: but i can login as root now after doing that "sudo passwd"04:59
franzhow to enable root account ?04:59
franzme too04:59
bobusefranz: Why ?04:59
nikkiaaseigo: see what you've done!04:59
jjessewhy would you need to enable the root account?04:59
franzsudo passwd root04:59
nikkiaaseigo: it was nice and pleasant, noone had asked about root passwords for a couple of days, and you have to go and mention it :P04:59
roninoisn't this not that secure? the user creates a user account with a weak password which is also set for the root's one04:59
franzto configure04:59
bobuseto configure what05:00
bobuseuse sudo05:00
franzprinter or so on05:00
nikkiaronino: how is it less secure than having a single root password that you have to give to everyone that needs to do something as root ?05:00
franzi come from Mandriva world05:00
bobuseyou can too hsu "sudo -s" ;-)05:00
roninoone can do "sudo bash" to get a root shell05:00
bobusefor printer, use the kde wizard05:00
franzok05:01
tencoi think its good that root login is disabled :)05:01
aseigosudo su -05:01
nikkiaronino: man sudoers05:01
nikkiaronino: you can control who can do what as root with sudo, not so with su05:01
roninonikkia: hmm, i'm not sure, this sounds like a new concept for me, i'm coming from Gentoo and installed Kubuntu for a friend of mine05:01
roninonikkia: okay, that sounds logical05:01
tencoronino: its different from gentoos and *bsds approach, but i like05:02
tencoit05:02
franzwhen i want to configure i have to write my passwd but i didnt go05:02
aseigoyou also don't have to manage a separate root password (think: multiple admins)05:02
bobusefranz: to edit a file as root, type : "sudo nano /etc/..."05:02
nikkiatenco, its not THAT different, OSX is basically a BSD and it uses sudo exclusively05:02
roninotenco: yep, once you know about the details05:02
nikkiabobuse: or just use sudo -e05:02
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nikkiabobuse: which is better, since it follows vipw style approach to editing files05:02
franzi don't want to edit files05:03
franzi want to use the center of configuration05:03
bobusefranz: lol05:03
roninoso far i must tell Kubuntu looks kinda good05:04
bobusenikkia: thx for the tip, but I'm not sure to understand what "vipw style" means05:04
tencoit also runs faster on that 400mhz celeron with 128mb ram i have around here :)05:04
nikkiabobuse: vipw copies the file to be edited, to a /tmp file, then runs vi on the tmp file, when vi exits, it copies the file back to the original location, its a safer situation when editing critical files05:05
jjessetenco: i have noticed the same thing w/ my test box05:05
nikkiabobuse: sudo -e does the same thing... copy file to /tmp, edit tmpfile, copy tmpfile over original05:05
nikkiabobuse: because it does it that way, it also means you can use gui editors05:06
bobusefranz: there isn't drakconf on (k)ubuntu. But you have the tools of the desktop manager (here KDE) and your favorite editor (nano, vi ...)05:06
nikkiasince the edit process never runs AS root, it just has root read/write access to the original file05:06
franzi use /home/franz/.kde/share/apps/kicker05:07
bobusenikkia: Ha yes. Thx a lot ! With GUI editors I'd problems ... now I know why !05:07
nikkiabobuse: also, sudo -e can be granted to a user without granting them permission to run an editor or shell as root05:07
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nikkia(you can also control WHICH files a user can edit via sudo, whereas if you grant permission to run a shell, or a specific editor, as root, then they can edit any file)05:09
nikkiawhich is very useful if your mail admin, or web admin, is not your system admin05:09
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franzI can't install kubuntu without having kernel panic. Is there anyboby who know this problem?05:09
jpatrickokay that's weird05:11
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dechHi, would anyone be able to tell me the alternative to gedit for kubuntu ?05:18
paines_kate05:18
paines_emacs05:18
paines_vi05:18
paines_vim05:18
paines_qemacs05:18
dechheh, thanks, i should word this more carefully :P "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" replace with ?05:18
CyberMadwooowww amarok!!!05:19
CyberMadit's like iTunes!!!!!!!!!!!05:19
CyberMad:))05:19
nikkiaqemacs? now there is an abortion of an editor :)05:19
nikkiadech: 'EDITOR=gedit  sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list'05:20
nikkiadech: and for future use, you might want to put 'export EDITOR=gedit' in your .bash_profile or .bashrc05:20
dechthanks :)05:20
CyberMadhow to hide apps from the taskbar.. those disturbing me because too many :(05:20
nikkia(you can also use the variable VISUAL, i don't think there is any significant difference between the two variables, other than history, VISUAL was used in the early days to tell the system what to use instead of vi05:21
dechThanks05:21
nikkiathere is also a pseudonym for 'sudo -e' called 'sudoedit' but it seems ultimately pointless other than being slightly faster to TAB complete :)05:22
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CyberMaddo you know remote application from linux to windows?05:27
CyberMadso i can control my windows desktop (other computer) from this linux?05:28
jjessesetup vnc on the windows box and use vnc n the linux box05:28
tencois it normal that kopete cant handle LAN adresses?05:28
nikkiaCyberMad: install vnc on windows, or install rdesktop on linux (if the windows is XP)05:29
nikkiaeither way works fine, although rdesktop fairs better with DX apps, but will log out the current user from the console (if the current user is an administrator and the rdesktop user is an administrator - if neither are admin, it doesn't log out the console user)05:29
CyberMadtenco use qnext :)05:30
CyberMadkopete i think can't handle LAN05:30
tencowhich paket should i install if kopete complains about a lacking QCA-TLS-module?05:30
CyberMadthis day is my first use of qnext :) and it's work work in LAN and multiplatform :)05:30
CyberMadnikkia, i will install rdesktop... hmm... checking aptitude for rdesktop05:32
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nikkiait should be in there05:33
nikkiaonce you have it installed, you can actually use the KDE front end to it...05:33
tencoCyberMad: ok, i will try05:33
nikkia'krdc' which can use vnc or rdesktop to talk to a remote desktop05:33
tencoCyberMad: i cant find it05:34
dechHmm, apt0-get freezes at Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  05:34
CyberMadtenco, qnext ?05:34
CyberMaddownload it from the qnext website...05:34
dechi cant blame it though when it thinks the ips are all 1.0.0.005:34
nikkiadech, heh, you have an actiontec modem don't you ?05:35
nikkia(or some other busybox based modem that has the bugged dns proxy)05:35
dechnikkia, :P nope i have an aztec dsl  router with inbuilt modem, (cheap crappy brand) 05:35
nikkiadech, your modem is probably running linux!05:35
CyberMadtest05:35
dechin fedora i just pointed my dns to my isp's dns instead of to my router :P05:36
nikkiadech, anyway, you need to take the modem out of the resolv.conf list of nameservers, because its running the buggy busybox DNS proxy05:36
nikkiadech, yeah, thats what i have to do - my actiontec modem does the same, reports 1.0.0.0 for everything05:36
nikkiawell, except that i run a caching DNS server on my PC now05:36
dechheh im surprised normal web/konversation works :P05:36
nikkiadech, want to know why ?05:37
dechok so edit my resolv.conf to point to my isps dns instead of my router ?05:37
dechYep :)05:37
nikkiadech, 1.0.0.0 is actually the 'right' value for the modem to respond....05:37
CyberMadtest05:37
nikkiabecause the busybox does transparent http proxying05:37
dechahh :)05:38
nikkiawhat its doing, is sending back 1.0.0.0 and then rewriting any packet that shows up as 1.0.0.0, and at the same time, offering popup blocking and so on, based on the web site05:38
jpatrick:/05:38
nikkiabut, unfortunately, reporting 1.0.0.0 breaks some things - but not most web browsers05:38
dechbut im gussing apt-get doesnt like that ? :P05:38
jpatricknikkia do you know any good ruby book sites?05:38
nikkiadech, exactly05:38
CyberMadugh... curious how to change my xchat color nickname... it's gray here and sometime i can't see it05:38
nikkiajpatrick, www.rubycentral.com ?05:38
sproingieCyberMad: there's an #xchat05:38
jpatrickbeen there05:39
CyberMadtest05:39
nikkiadech, anyway, try telnetting to your modem's IP, you'll probably find you have a tiny little linux machine there :)05:39
CellarDoorI installed UT2004 on my PC tonight... Kubuntu is the first distro on which it has installed flawlessly. Good stuff !05:39
dechhmm, any way to telnet from bash, or download putty ? :P05:39
hussamI can't mount floppy drives in Kubuntu, how do I do that?05:39
dechim pretty nooby with linux :D05:40
nikkiadech, 'telnet'05:40
dechheh05:40
dechi cant belive i asked instead of trying that05:40
dechrofl you are right :D05:41
dechBusyBox on mygateway login:    05:41
nikkiadech, yep, login, and do a uname -a :)05:41
nikkiaerk, sorry05:41
nikkiauname isn't installed on busybox modems :/05:41
CellarDoorhussam, have you tried clicking on the System icon next to the Kmenu and choosing "Storage Media" ? It should appear in there. If you click on it, it should mount it for you.05:41
nikkiadech, do cat /proc/version   once you're logged in05:42
nikkiadech, its probably 2.4.17 or so kernel05:42
dech:O i dunno my username/pass apprently05:42
hussamCellarDoor: could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified05:42
nikkiadech, should be the same as you use for the web interface to the modem05:42
dechhang on ill check i typed it right05:42
tencoCyberMad: sorry, i only install through apt-get05:42
dechyeah im checking my web interface to see if its admin r administrator i never had to type the username before :P05:43
nikkiaadmin05:43
CellarDoorhussam: hmm thats interesting... afraid I can't be much more help than that as I'm a bit of a n00b myself... I don't have a floppy drive either :P05:43
dechyep admin05:43
dechhmm05:43
dechnope :(05:44
dechgot admin/mypass05:44
dechlogin incorrect05:44
CellarDoorhussam: is it a windows disk or something else ?05:44
nikkiadech, strange, and that password works on the web gateway ?05:44
dechsure does05:44
dechjust tried it05:44
nikkiahow odd05:44
hussamCellarDoor: it has files I saved on a windows machine at work05:44
dechHmm05:44
nikkiadech, maybe on yours when you changed the web password it didn't change the admin password on the telnet interface too ?05:45
dechhmm no i just tried admin/admin (the factory defaults) and it was incorrect05:46
nikkiadech, try root/mypass05:46
nikkiaor root/admin05:46
nikkiabut it might be that aztec do something evil with the passwords for busybox :(05:46
dechHmm i think so05:47
dechcause they were both incorrect too :P05:47
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nikkiadech, actiontec do at least change the telnet password too, but i've yet to find a way to modify files on the flash drive05:47
chxI am trying to compile a package from SF and I get: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGsGtk and I have no luck find that library anywhere. Ideas?05:47
nikkiadech, so there's not much i can do from the linux prompt, and what i do do, goes away on reboot05:48
dech:D05:48
dechheh05:48
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dechim thinking about buying a new router anyway, probly some sort of wireless setup, but im insecure about wireless for some reason :P05:48
CellarDoorDoes anyone know about reading windows floppies ? Ive never used Samba or anything. I think hussam should be able to get at the files on his floppy... could someone perhaps edumacate us a bit ?05:49
dechhmm so, what should i do about getting apt working ?05:50
nikkiadech, remove your modem's IP from /etc/resolv.conf, and use your ISP's DNS settings05:50
dechoh yeah thats right05:50
dechsorry, i havent been awake long :P05:50
nikkiai've been awake for what seems like forever :/05:51
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dechHeh its 1:52 am where i am05:51
dechi only woke up not long ago :D05:52
dechwent to bed at 2pm05:52
hussamCellarDoor: I'll try editing /etc/fstab and changing auto to vfat . I'll then reboot and recheck 05:52
hussambrb05:52
dechwoah i just noticed my clock in kubuntus time is wrong, after i set it before i went to bed and shut down :(05:53
dechguess the "synching time with ntp.ubunutu.org failed" msg just before boot up DOES mean something05:53
dechnikkia should i set both my isps dns in resilv.conf, and if so just make two nameserver lines ?05:54
nikkiaits up to you05:54
nikkiaas long as the first one is working, it doesn't matter about the second05:55
nikkialibc just tries the first, and if it gets no response, goes onto the next05:55
dechhmm well, i guess one is good enough, they shouldnt ever have one down :P without both at least05:55
dechhmm ok, so do i have to restart my network device ?05:56
nikkiano05:56
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nikkiait should 'just work', although i've found that libc doesn't always notice changes to resolv.conf straight away05:56
dechok here goes a 'sudo apt-get update' :P05:56
dech:D wahey results05:57
dechnikkia thanks :)05:57
CellarDoordech, now do 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ;)05:58
CellarDoorI love apt05:58
CellarDoorso cool05:58
dech:D05:58
dechi love kynaptic as well :P05:58
CellarDooryeah05:58
CellarDoorI like kpackage as it give more info on packages, but I dunno how to make it work... I can view packages n stuff without having to enter my password when it starts up, but if I wan't to install something it asks for root password and wont accept my sudo password.06:00
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nikkiadech: btw, a thought, try 'admin' and just hit enter for the password06:04
dechnikkia hey yeah :D will do06:05
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dechaww nope :(06:05
dechHehe yay06:06
dechon the page that shows my isps dns servers they had an ntp server too06:06
dechso now my time is correct automatically :)06:06
dechheh wow 75mb for azureus06:08
dechwell, to be fair 69mb for j2se :P06:08
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CyberMadhello... how to activate terminal server on windows? because i want connect rdesktop (linux) to windows...06:29
CyberMadrdesktop is already installed and running06:29
jjessewhat version of windows?06:29
CyberMadxp06:29
jjessethen you need to allow remote administration of the desktop....06:30
CyberMadis it ok between pro and home?, because i will move from pro to home06:30
jjesseright lcick on my computer and then properties and then remote administration should help you out06:30
CyberMadok.. wait06:30
CyberMadok looks like i must choose the user to allow06:31
jjessecorrect06:32
CyberMadi choose Administrator06:32
CyberMadwait..06:32
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jjesseonce you enable that you are going to connect via rdesktop and use that username password to conenct to the xp box06:32
beniamino_i'm getting random freezes using SMP kernels on a dual xeons machine using hoary... any advice?06:33
CyberMadlooks like worked :)06:33
CyberMadbut i must disconnect user that already login to XP06:34
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jjessecorrect06:34
jjessewin 2k server and win 2k3 server allow for up to two concurrent conenctions via terminal services adminstration mode06:34
jjesseif you want to keep the current user logged inot the xp box use vnc 06:35
CyberMadis there anyway to not do disconnect?06:35
jjessesetup one as server other as remote06:35
CyberMadok06:35
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CyberMadwhat vnc software for windows do you recommend?06:35
jjessei use real vnc at work06:36
CyberMadthe name is "Real VNC" ?06:36
CyberMadok.. i google it06:36
CyberMadok found it :)06:37
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tgny i installed ubuntu yesterday. after installing the base system i went to install the binary ati drivers via apt-get however the version that was installed with this was too old for my chipset. i then downloaded the newest drivers from ati and installed them. i have those new drivers installed and working with 2d but cannot get dri to work. the X log files complain about the kernel module not matching with the driver version06:39
CyberMaddude.. is it ok take the free version.. bcos looks like many function not supported, or there is hehehe ***** version?06:39
jjessei just use the free version06:40
CyberMadok... then i go for it06:40
CyberMaddo you have much time in this channel jjesse 06:41
CyberMador maybe you have an IM ? if you don't have much time in this channel... if just i don't bother u06:42
tgnywhat do i need to do to install a different gtk theme for my gnome apps?06:43
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tgnyis there a GUI for installing new packages? or is it only apt-get via the command line?06:44
jjessekynaptic06:45
dechOk, :P so now my monitor decides to go perma standy while playing frozen bubble :D06:45
CyberMadjjesse, kynaptic?06:46
dechHmm how can i find out if my ati drivers are installed ?06:47
tgnyok i found kynaptic and i want to install the gtk2-engines-clearlooks .. how do i switch to use it after its installed?06:49
CyberMadSystem -> Info Center?06:49
tgnywell my ati drivers are installed but my dri isnt working :)06:50
dechhey i have an old ati radeon 9200se pci card :D06:51
dechhmm i guess one good way to find out would be to install enemy territory :D06:51
tgnyor glxinfo06:52
dechyeah that would be much easier :)06:53
dechthanks tgny06:53
tgnyanytime ;)06:54
decheh now, if i could just understand what it showed me :D06:54
dechcare to take a look in a priv window ? :P pasting it here would be quite spammery06:56
tgnytgnb@boh:~$ glxinfo | grep direct06:56
tgnydirect rendering: No06:56
tgnyOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:56
tgnydo that command .. it will tell you if dri is working or not06:56
tgnyin my case its not06:57
tgny:)06:57
dechhehe k :)06:57
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E0xmorning06:58
jjessemorning E0x06:58
tgnyGM06:58
E0xthe kubuntu cd live dont have a memtest boot ?06:58
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dechok07:03
dechthats not good :(07:03
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tencohi07:04
tencohow can i get the userlist in kdm back?07:04
dechjust before i got to do glxinfo | grep direct07:04
dechmy monitor went into perma standby again so i tried switching monitors and the other one has an erro msg "out the range (numbers here)"07:04
tgnyhmmm07:05
dechon a plus note i do have direct rendering :P07:05
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dechthe perma standby thing didnt happen before, but it started while i was playing frozen bubble >_<07:06
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mornfallheya, is it possible to debootstrap kubuntu?07:07
mornfallhow? :)07:07
mornfall(i need a chroot for testing)07:07
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mornfall(your upcoming package manager, too ;-))07:09
tencohow can i get the userlist in kdm back?07:09
tenco"display list" in kcontrol is enabled07:10
mornfall(cf. http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html)07:10
tencohow can i get the userlist in kdm back?07:16
CyberMadjjesse, i allready install the real VNC in windows07:18
CyberMaddo i must disable the remote desktop?07:19
CyberMadi don't think so...07:20
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CyberMadhmmm07:20
tgnyhow can i switch to a different gtk2 theme for my gnome apps in kde?07:20
tgnyis there no tool to do that with in kubuntu?07:20
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CyberMadi think i must install xvncviewer...07:23
CyberMadjjesse, are you there?07:23
mortaHi, vielleicht kann mir hier einer helfen: Mein Problem: Ich habe meine WLAN Karte mit ndiswrapper geladen. Iwlist wlan0 scanning findet mein Offenes Wifi Netz. Wenn ich nun die Einstellungen per iwconfig wlan0 ESSID meineSSID setzen will, bekomme ich keinen Fehler, aber die Einstellungen werden nicht bernommen.07:24
mortahier kann keiner deutsch nicht, ok translation in 2 min07:25
mortamy problem: I setup my WLAN card and loaded the drivers with ndiswrapper. iwlist wlan0 scanning is showing my open network, but if I try to set up the settings with iwconfig wlan0 ESSID mySSID it won07:26
morta't work07:26
tencomorta: you can also use #ubuntu-de07:26
mortano error, simply no effect07:26
mortaoh :-) thx, but does anyone has an Idea for that problem ?07:27
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seaLnedoes iwconfig wlan0 essid mySSID work?07:28
mortalol kubuntu-de / ubuntu-de are both empty07:28
CyberMadjjesse,  are you there?07:28
CyberMadi need help07:28
mortaiwconfig ... doesn't work07:28
CyberMadabout connect vncviewer in linux to real vnc in windows07:28
seaLneessid in lowercase07:29
mortanope no effect07:29
mortanow triing fpr 3 hours07:29
seaLnecan kwifimanager see it?07:30
mortaI think some settings blocks my set up07:30
mortajep07:30
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mortayes Wifimanager shows my SSID07:30
seaLneweird07:30
mortabut cant connect07:30
seaLneis it restricted in anyway like mac address?07:30
mortaiwconfig -> ESSID:of/any07:31
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mortayes07:31
CyberMadjjesse,  are you there?07:31
mortabut I put it on the list07:31
dechHmm, although editing my resolv.conf to point to my isp's dns server instead of router enables apt-get to connect, my resolv.conf gets reset on ever bootup :(07:31
seaLnedech: there is an option to dhcp not to07:32
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dechHow do i cahnge it ?07:32
mortathe Card perfectly works under WinXp 07:32
seaLnedech: look at /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf07:32
dechthanks07:32
seaLnedech: try either "prepend domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4;" or removing domain-name-servers from the list below that07:33
dechi was about to ask07:35
dechremove domain-name-servers from07:35
dechrequest subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,07:35
dechdomain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,07:35
dechnetbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;07:35
dech? :P07:35
nikkiadech, yes07:35
seaLneyeah07:35
dechthanks :D07:35
seaLnenot done it in years so can't quite rember07:35
seaLnethen just /etc/init.d/networking restart07:35
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bz0bcan someone please tell me where to get some better repos07:37
CyberMaddoes anyone know how to use VNC ?07:37
bz0bI need xchat, gaim, firefox, and someother stuff that kubuntu just doesnt have07:38
bz0bCyberMad: yeah07:38
CyberMadi already install "Real VNC" in windows07:38
CyberMadi already install "Real VNC" in windows xp07:38
bz0bok07:38
seaLneCyberMad: have you uncomented the other ones in /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:38
CyberMadand install xvncviewer to linux07:38
bz0bnope07:38
seaLnebz0b: ^ not CyberMad 07:38
CyberMadseaLne,  looks like i don't07:38
CyberMadok wait07:38
seaLneCyberMad: i wouldn't have thought it should matter much which client you used as they are all roughly the sam apart from a few extra features07:39
CyberMadwhich one to uncomment?07:39
seaLneCyberMad: the /etc/apt/sources.list was aimed at bz0b sorry07:40
bz0byeah07:40
bz0bI just freshly installed kubuntu07:40
bz0band am trying to get some good sources07:40
CyberMadi can do remote desktop... but i want to connect more than 2 client, that's why i use vnc07:40
bz0band a few packages07:40
bz0bI see07:40
bz0bwell07:40
CyberMadbut i'm stuck on this07:40
bz0bgo into terminal and type vncviewer07:41
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bz0bor do you want to setup a vncserver on your box?07:41
bz0bm07:41
CyberMadyes i did07:41
CyberMadand there is box07:41
bz0band is it configured correctly?07:41
CyberMadVNC Server :07:41
CyberMadi type my vnc server ip07:42
CyberMad192.168.1.107:42
mornfallCyberMad: windows with multiple clients will behave still like a single desktop - one pointer etc07:42
CyberMadand it's like no respon07:42
mornfall(if it will work at all)07:42
CyberMadno problem mornfall 07:42
bz0bbrb07:42
mornfallokies then :)07:43
CyberMadi just need to control my xp using one monitor07:43
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CyberMadany help?07:44
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dechwell, i guess that didnt work :D07:45
dechjust made all network type things not work :D07:45
dechtill i reverted the change to the conf and rebooted pc (restarting network didnt work)07:45
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CyberMadjjesse,  are you there?07:47
seaLnemornfall: i take it you've worked out by now debootstrap?07:47
bz0bIm back07:47
CyberMadlooks like jjesse expert on vnc07:47
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CyberMadbz0b, any help?07:48
bz0bhuh?07:49
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CyberMadvnc07:51
bz0bok07:52
bz0bso are you looking to set it up?07:52
CyberMadyes..07:52
CyberMad:(07:53
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dechhmm how do i install the java plugin for firefox, ? i used kynaptic to get firefox and i have j2re1.507:57
mornfallseaLne: why?07:58
seaLnejust incase you hadn't07:59
mornfallseaLne: i am debootstrapping debian casually :)07:59
seaLnek07:59
mornfalli just need the kubuntu script or whatever07:59
mornfalli guess07:59
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seaLnejust debootstrap <dist> <localdir> http:/my.mirror/path ?08:00
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mornfallseaLne: yeah, and dist would be what? sarge? sid? ;-)08:03
seaLneyep08:03
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seaLnesarge :)08:03
mornfalleh, and then dist-upgrade to kubuntu?08:04
mornfallthat's evil08:04
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seaLnekubuntu is ubuntu not debian...08:04
mornfallseaLne: so what?08:04
mornfallit should allow debootsrapping08:04
seaLne"< mornfall> eh, and then dist-upgrade to kubuntu?" implied changing debian to ubuntu to me sorry if i misunderstood08:05
mornfallseaLne: well, i debootstrap sarge yes... and how i get kubuntu from that?08:06
npfetseaLne: so what if it is debian -> kubuntu?08:06
seaLnenpfet: it would be weird08:06
seaLnewhy not just bootstrap ubuntu in the first place08:06
mornfallseaLne: hmm, i was asking how to debootstrap kubuntu08:06
seaLneon an (k)ubuntu machine or a debian machine?08:07
npfetmornfall: hehe uhm... i'm not real familiar with debootstrap but..08:07
seaLnedebootstrap breezy ./kubuntu/ http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu08:07
mornfallseaLne: and you said debootstrap sarge08:07
mornfallso i'm debootstrapping sarge now :P08:07
npfetmornfall: you just want the apt sources lines or?08:07
mornfall(note: i refuse to deal with anything that looks like an iso file from distance)08:07
mornfalldebian machine, of course08:07
seaLnethe above should work08:08
mornfallnpfet: no, i need a debootstrap script08:08
seaLnejust apt-get install debootstrap ?08:08
mornfallseaLne: there is no breezy script in debian08:08
seaLneah doh08:08
mornfallye gods08:08
mornfallall i want is url for the script :p08:08
dechhow do i install java plugin for firefox ? i used kynaptic to get firefox + j2se1.508:09
seaLneyes i've worked that out now :(08:09
dech(seperately)08:09
dechj2re1.5 sorry08:09
CyberMadahhhhhh08:10
CyberMadvnc is running at the last moment :D08:10
seaLnemornfall: www2.duffus.org/tmp/breezy08:10
npfetbtw anybody here have wrist problems?08:11
mornfallseaLne: running, thx08:11
seaLnenp, sorry i got confused08:11
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[Surge] !repos08:16
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:16
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[Surge] What does "Hit" mean when updating the sources?08:21
seaLnethats the files it got08:22
[Surge] You mean those headers are already in the cache?08:23
seaLnethats it downloading the package details08:24
[Surge] Oh08:24
[Surge] I suppose Ign = Ignore08:24
[Surge] And Get = get :)08:25
seaLnei think get is about to download and hit is downloaded and processed08:26
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dechCould anyone tell me how to install the java plugin for firefox, i got firefox and j2re1.5 both from kynaptic08:27
[Surge] Oh ok thank08:27
[Surge] s08:27
[Surge] dech: They should just work08:28
[Surge] At least they did on my PC08:28
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dechUnfortunately it doesnt :(08:29
dechI tried a java enabled webpage, and firefox told me to install the plugin, and sent me to java web, which told me the plugin wasnt installed08:29
dechtold me how to install it as well, by creating a symlink in the plgings folder of where firefox is installed to a pluginw here java is installed08:30
dechonly prob is i know hwere neither are isntalled ^_^08:30
[Surge] Which is not a problem since you can uninstall them via kynaptic08:31
[Surge] Did you read the FAQ?08:31
dechWhy bother uninstalling them, just to reinstall them, (not to mention redownload them)08:32
dechwhen i could ask politely where they are installed by default ?08:32
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[Surge] Use synaptic08:35
[Surge] It allows you so see where stuff is installed08:35
dech..it...does ?08:35
[Surge] Yeah it's more powerful than kynaptic08:35
dechoh :D hehi read synaptic as kynaptic then08:36
dechok thanks  :)08:36
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Velox<3 Synaptic08:37
[Surge] In synaptic - right click, properties, under one of the tabs (think it's "provides")08:37
[Surge] Gives you a list of installed files and a list of dependencies08:38
dech:) thanks08:38
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dechSo much nicer tha fedora08:38
dechthan*08:38
dechonce i got my audigy working at least ^_^08:39
[Surge] dech: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre08:39
dechdid that :D08:39
dechno worky08:39
dechso i thought id try suns way of making teh symlink08:40
bz0bdoes kubuntu set any firewalls when you first install?08:42
jpatrickno08:42
dechwell08:43
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dechthis is unexpected08:44
dechdech@box:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins$ ls08:44
dechflashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin.so08:44
CyberMadhow to use sudo passwd?08:44
[Surge] Installed08:44
dechbut not working :(08:44
[Surge] sudo passwd <username>08:44
[Surge] dech: That sounds strange08:44
CyberMadok i already did sudo passwd root08:45
CyberMadnow... how to login to root08:45
dechsure does08:45
[Surge] su -08:45
CyberMadi want to use apt-get install crossover08:45
[Surge] su = switch user08:45
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_rolandoholas08:45
[Surge] Oh08:45
apokryphosCyberMad: you don't need to have root for that08:45
_rolandodo u know how can i have nested menus?08:45
[Surge] Then sudo apt-get install crossover08:45
apokryphosCyberMad: just prefix commands with "sudo" or use "sudo -s"08:45
CyberMadow thanks08:46
dechThey way i tested java in firefox was by seeing if it could run an old browser based java mmorpg i played years ago (www.runescape.com) which told me to install java plugin for firefox and sent me to java site, which also told me java was not enabled for my browser and to do so make the symlink08:46
[Surge] CyberMad: sudo just runs commands as root user without having to log in as root08:46
CyberMadyudi@earth:/usr/bin$ sudo apt-get install crossover08:46
CyberMadE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:46
CyberMadE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:46
apokryphosdech: that would work of course; I always use javaonthebrain.com 8)08:46
CyberMad[Surge] , is it danger if someone get connected to my linux box and run sudo?08:47
[Surge] CyberMad: You have shut down Synaptic/Kynaptic and all apt progs?08:47
_rolandodo u know what im talking about?08:47
dech:D but my java is apparently installed :P08:47
dechjust not working in firefox08:47
[Surge] CyberMad: Nope because you still have to enter a password08:47
CyberMad[Surge] , i don't think so have shut down them08:47
[Surge] You did stick "sudo" on front?08:48
[Surge] "sudo apt-get install crossover"08:48
[Surge] One line08:48
CyberMadusing ps -ax   and kill id   to shut down synaptic/kynaptic?08:48
_rolandou need a symbolic link08:48
dechdech@box:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins$ ls08:49
dechflashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin.so08:49
[Surge] dech : ls -l08:49
CyberMadi already type sudo apt-get install crossover   08:49
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dechlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-08-20 02:27 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternative                                            s/firefox-javaplugin.so08:50
[Surge] Ah08:50
dechthe others were there but i didnt think it needed to paste their infos08:50
[Surge] Have you checked that "/etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so" exists?08:51
[Surge] It could be a symlink to another place08:51
dechthough in ls it shows the other twos names in aqau and javaplugins in red08:51
dechif that means anything08:51
[Surge] Hehe08:51
[Surge] That means the links are broken08:51
dech:O08:51
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dech*smacks his head*08:51
[Surge] i.e. The targets don't exist08:51
dechsorry for wasting teh time then08:52
dechheh i shoulda said that earlier08:52
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trograinMy brother is using Ubuntu base package on his server...he wants to make multiple Hardrives to look like 1 partition, how does he do it?08:52
Hamsterare there any knowledgable Kate people around?08:52
[Surge] I know Kate - she's a really nice chick!08:52
trograinis it LVM that he should be using?08:52
Hamster[Surge] : har.08:52
trograinand if so, how?08:53
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CyberMadthere is -rwxr-xr-x   1 root   root     561848 2005-03-25 19:38 kynaptic08:53
CyberMadi already did kill 56184808:53
CyberMadbut system said there is no process08:54
[Surge] kill -9 56184808:54
dechWow doing ls -l in /etc/alternatives/ showed alot of red names08:54
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CyberMadi'm forget about process killin08:54
CyberMadok08:54
[Surge] -9 = die you mother *******08:54
tgnxanyone know how i can switch gtk2 themes in kde for my gnome apps?08:54
apokryphosHamster: no point asking to ask :P08:55
CyberMaderr08:55
CyberMaderror dude08:55
CyberMadyudi@earth:/usr/bin$ kill -9 56184808:55
CyberMadbash: kill: (561848) - No such process08:55
CyberMadi already look ls -l08:55
CyberMadand the pid is correct08:55
trograinrestart system, soudns liek a glitch :D hehehe :D08:55
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apokryphosCyberMad: root shouldn't own it08:56
dechAHA /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so instead of /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so08:56
apokryphosoh wait, that's not libflashplayer08:56
CyberMaderr08:56
apokryphosCyberMad: how did you install java?08:57
[Surge] dech: You installed the SDK and not the JRE?08:57
dechok how do i edit a symlink ? ^_^08:57
dechi got both08:57
dechbut mozilla was pointing to the sdk08:57
[Surge] Ah ... no wonder it doesn't just work08:57
dech(sdk was automatically installed by something else)08:57
[Surge] To remove a link "rm"08:57
dechrm then file name ?08:58
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[Surge] Yes08:58
CyberMadapokryphos, i never install java on linux before08:58
[Surge] To create a new symlink : "ln -s <target> <name of link>08:58
CyberMad:P08:58
apokryphosCyberMad: darn it, wrong person sorry.08:58
bz0bhas anyone gotten wireless to work on kubuntu yeT08:58
apokryphosdech: you can just get the java pack from hoary-extras -- it does all the necessary stuff08:58
CyberMadhehe... how to kill this process :((08:59
apokryphosCyberMad: what process?08:59
[Surge] CyberMad: How did you list the processes?08:59
[Surge] ps -ef ?08:59
apokryphosCyberMad: killall <processname>08:59
CyberMadls -l08:59
[Surge] lol08:59
[Surge] ls = list files08:59
apokryphosls -l doesn't list processes :)08:59
bz0bI have a d-link DWL G630 rev c.1 how do I install wireless on that08:59
CyberMaddamn08:59
CyberMadforget08:59
[Surge] Do a "ps -ef"08:59
CyberMadps08:59
bz0bI know that whax, another distro has got it08:59
[Surge] Then get the PID and kill that09:00
[Surge] Or a "killall <name of process>09:00
[Surge] i.e. :  killall kynaptic09:01
CyberMadok09:01
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elvirolohi all09:01
dech[Surge]  WOot it works :D thanks09:02
elvirolois there a way to get rid of kwallet ? it keeps asking me if i'd like it to store my passwords, which i don't09:02
CyberMadok.. both synaptic: no process killed either kynaptic09:02
CyberMadi still can't do sudo apt-get install crossover09:03
[Surge] Does it ask you for a password?09:04
[Surge] Sounds strange09:04
CyberMadnope09:04
[Surge] Hmmm ... did you do a normal install?09:04
CyberMadshould i do killall yes_them_all_dude  ? :)09:04
[Surge] Or an expert install?09:04
apokryphosCyberMad: do you have an extra repo for it or something?09:04
CyberMadkubuntu installation?09:05
[Surge] Yes.09:05
CyberMadwhat do you mean with repo?09:05
CyberMadi install kubuntu.. wait09:05
apokryphosRepository09:05
apokryphosIt's not in any of the conventional ones, at least.09:05
CyberMadfrom Kubuntu v5.04 install - i38609:06
[Surge] CyberMad: If you run synaptic do you see it listed?09:06
CyberMadi just did install rdesktop and xvncviewer with aptitude last hours a go09:07
CyberMaddo you mean, i type synaptic in console?09:07
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CyberMadbash: synaptic: command not found09:07
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CyberMadi don't know what is synaptic and kynaptic, sorry, later i will take a look to google09:08
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_edvardashow to change arks (archiving tool) temp directory?09:09
CyberMadbut when i type kynaptic09:09
CyberMadthere is message, u must run this program under root09:09
_edvardastype sudo kynaptic?09:10
CyberMadKynaptic <2>09:10
CyberMadX  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (1109:11
CyberMadResource temporarily unavailable)09:11
CyberMadand there is Kynaptic window behind that error message09:11
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CyberMadWhen i press OK09:12
CyberMadthere is another error message:09:12
CyberMadKynaptic <2>09:12
CyberMadUnable to lock the administration directory09:12
CyberMad(/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:12
CyberMadand then i press OK again09:12
CyberMadthere is no error anymore09:13
teprrr_edvardas, it uses kde's default temp path09:13
CyberMadmay i close this kynaptic appz?09:13
teprrrif you mean kdeutil's ark09:13
_edvardasyeah09:13
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_edvardasmaybe i can somehow change that temp directory to enother?09:14
[Surge] Do a reboot - it's going to be less painful09:14
CyberMad[Surge] , ok dude...09:14
teprrr$KDETMP or something like that was the env var for it09:14
CyberMadbrb09:14
teprrrso try KDETMP=/my/new/shiny/path ark09:14
bz0bcan someone tell me what the command to install open ssh server is?09:14
teprrrfrom console09:14
_edvardasmhm, i'll try09:15
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_edvardaswhen i type KDETMP=/*/*/ ark it just open a new window of ark09:17
tgnxanyone know how i can switch gtk2 themes in kde for my gnome apps?09:17
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a5141 crossover cable 2 pc, how do i connect them?09:17
matthewone end of the cable goes to each pc;)09:18
a514yah yah ;)09:18
a514there's no lights on09:19
tgnxdo you guys all use the default gtk2 theme in KDE?09:19
tgnxfor your gnome apps?09:19
matthewingegrated nics?09:19
a514yeah :) laptop & mb09:20
matthewit'll be your cable then09:20
matthewnothing to do with software, unless you disabled your nics09:20
[Surge] tgnb: Yes09:20
_edvardasi've left 8gb inhd and i want to extract 6gb file, but i can't because ark is extracting file in tmp and then copying to my directory so it takes 12gb... any suggestions how to extract it? :}09:22
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[Surge] What file extension _edvardas ?09:22
CyberMaddamn... it's work dude09:22
CyberMadyudi@earth:~$ sudo apt-get install crossover09:22
_edvardas*.bz209:22
CyberMadPassword:09:23
CyberMadReading package lists... Done09:23
CyberMadBuilding dependency tree... Done09:23
CyberMadE: Couldn't find package crossover09:23
apokryphostgnx: nope, never. I use my kde theme09:23
[Surge] Then do it from console09:23
CyberMaddo you know what is keyword for crossover?09:23
apokryphosCyberMad: you apparently don't have a repository with it09:23
tgnxyou use your kde theme for gnome apps? how do you do that?09:23
_edvardas[Surge] : how?09:23
a514could be  the  cable?09:23
[Surge] _edvardas: bunzip2 <filename>09:23
apokryphostgnx: sudo aptitude install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt09:23
_edvardasthnx, i09:23
CyberMadwait.. open my dictionary, i don't know what is repository mean09:23
[Surge] Do it in the directory where you want the file extracted09:23
_edvardasi'll try it :}09:23
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[Surge] I don't like Ark and it's /tmp issue09:24
apokryphosCyberMad: repositories are places for Ubuntu to get packages from09:24
CyberMadyes09:24
CyberMadhow to support / add it?09:24
apokryphosCyberMad: when you use apt-get, it checks certain places (different "sources") and then downloads packages from there if it can get them09:24
_edvardas[Surge] : what do you use then?09:24
_edvardasconsole?09:25
[Surge] I always use command line - it's normally faster too09:25
tgnxapokryphos, thanks thats lets me switch to my theme also.. i wonder why i couldnt find that package :( i must have used dpkg wrong09:25
CyberMadi want to install CodeWeavers CrossOver Office09:25
apokryphosto get the proper version you'll need to buy it09:25
[Surge] _edvardas: "tar zxf <name>"  for *.tgz  or *.tar.gz09:26
CyberMadapokryphos, are you talking to me?09:26
apokryphosCyberMad: yes09:26
CyberMadactually i already have it09:26
CyberMadbut nikita tell me to use apt-get09:26
CyberMadCodeWeavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v4.1.Linux.RPM.tar09:27
[Surge] _edvardas: "tar jxf <name>" or "bunzip2 <name>" for *.bz2 or *.tar.bz209:27
_edvardas[Surge] : when i unzip (untar) file from command line then it doesn't /tmp?09:27
apokryphosCyberMad: if you have the program, the tar, then you would not use apt-get09:27
[Surge] _edvardas: "gunzip <name>" for *.gz09:27
[Surge] _edvardas: Nope09:27
CyberMadok09:27
_edvardasmhm that's good, thnx for help :}09:28
[Surge] _edvardas: It extracts the file directly into the current directory unless you tell it otherwise09:28
CyberMadi already did untar09:28
CyberMadand this is:09:28
CyberMadCodeWeavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v4.1.Linux.RPM09:28
CyberMadi don't know how to install rpm on kubuntu09:29
CyberMadrpm -vhi filename ?09:29
[Surge] Ah ... so you have an RPM?!09:29
[Surge] Something like that09:29
CyberMadyup09:29
apokryphosnope, you can't install them like that09:29
[Surge] Not?09:29
apokryphosonly real way is to convert them using alien first, but it's really sketchy for larger programs like Crossover09:29
CyberMadnikita said i can't install it09:29
apokryphosworth a try, perhaps09:29
apokryphos[Surge] : nope, Kubuntu uses the deb system :)09:30
CyberMadok wait.. i try it09:30
CyberMaderror: read failed: Is a directory (21)09:30
CyberMad-_-09:30
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apokryphosCyberMad: that error of course means nothing to us. I have no idea what you're doing there09:31
CyberMadyudi@earth:~/Backup$ rpm -vhi CodeWeavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v4.1.Linux.RPM09:31
CyberMaderror: read failed: Is a directory (21)09:31
CyberMadi did that09:31
apokryphosCyberMad: erm, I did say "nope, you can't install them like that"09:32
[Surge] Ah yes but you would need to do a "sudo" 09:32
CyberMadyes.. i just try it, maybe something happen :P09:32
[Surge] If RPM's aren't supported then why is "rpm" installed by default?09:32
CyberMadmiracle09:32
apokryphos[Surge] : I can think of many reasons; viewing the contents of an RPM, being able to convert them etc09:33
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[Surge] It's not a nice thing to do though - you could end up with clashes between the RPM and apt databases09:33
CyberMadlistening09:34
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CyberMadmaybe fedora is only answer?09:34
CyberMadmaybe fedora is the only answer?09:34
apokryphosmaybe Alien is a possibility, like I said. See man alien09:35
CyberMadok09:35
CyberMadi try learn how to use alien... brb09:35
dechwow, i am so loving kubuntu09:36
CyberMadso all i just need is converting rpm to deb, right?09:37
apokryphosyes, then run the .deb09:37
apokryphosI really don't think it'll work, but hey.09:37
jpatrickyou must try09:37
CyberMadyes of course09:37
CyberMadgo go CyberMad 09:37
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jpatrickI tried install Linspire Clear09:37
jpatrickthat didn't work09:38
apokryphosCyberMad: what do you want CrossOver office for, btw?09:38
CyberMadrun macromedia flash09:38
jpatrickwhat?09:38
CyberMadwhat do you mean with what?09:39
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Aapzakyo scared him :)09:39
Aapzakyou09:39
AapzakCyberMad: developing flash?09:40
Aapzakgood evening everyone BTW09:41
_edvardashi Aapzak 09:41
CyberMadyes09:42
CyberMadthese are weird:09:42
CyberMadyudi@earth:~/Backup$ alien crossover.rpm09:42
CyberMadMust run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).09:42
CyberMadyudi@earth:~/Backup$ sudo alien crossover.rpm09:42
CyberMadFile "crossover.rpm" not found.09:42
Aapzaklol09:43
Aapzakand fakeroot?09:44
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CyberMaddon't know why09:44
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CyberMaddamn wrong!!!09:46
CyberMadwait...09:46
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CyberMadlooks like it worked09:49
CyberMad:D09:49
CyberMadbrb09:49
CyberMadit's create .deb file09:49
Aapzakthats what alien does09:49
CyberMadwhat dumb CyberMad command alien to the folder crossover.rpm09:50
AapzakI don't like that rpm2deb business09:50
CyberMaddone!09:50
CyberMadbrb09:50
gdhaye, alien doesn't do any 'magic'...09:50
CyberMadroot@earth:~/Backup/crossover.rpm# alien crossover-pro-4.1-1.i386.rpm09:51
CyberMadcrossover-pro_4.1-2_i386.deb generated09:51
gdhjust puts files in what is more likely to be the right place :)09:51
CyberMaderr... how to install deb ? 09:51
CyberMadi'm newbie09:51
jpatrickdpkg -i name.deb09:51
CyberMaddpkg -i 09:52
CyberMadyup09:52
CyberMadok09:52
supernixhave yall seen the new kernel image ?09:52
CyberMaddone!09:53
jpatricknew kernel image09:53
supernixyep09:53
jpatrickI upgraded today09:53
supernixwhat did they fix or optimize ?09:53
CyberMadSetting up crossover-pro (4.1-2) ...09:53
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leuskopete rebota mi contrasea por qu?09:54
CyberMadenglish..09:54
hussamhow to extract the meta info of a cd? Data preparer, publisher, etc?09:55
supernixthat is one thing I find so annoying is that they don't give any information at all about what has been added or changed or fixed about a package in the latest version09:55
leuskopete does not accept mi password. why?09:55
jpatrick#kubuntu-es09:55
[Surge] leus: Upgrade your kopete09:55
leusok, thank you Surge09:56
[Surge] Microsoft changed the authentication method to break non MSN instant messengers so you have to get a new one for it to work.09:56
[Surge] They do it quite regularly - bastards09:57
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jpatricklol09:57
leusWhere are you from Surge?09:57
[Surge] South Africa09:57
mike223greetings09:57
CyberMadso where is that crossover that i already installed :|09:58
leusI am from Argentina, I am new in kubuntu world09:58
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CyberMadyup.. me too09:58
leusYou too CiberMad?09:59
CyberMadyup.. this is my second day with kubuntu09:59
leusI used to use mandrake09:59
CyberMadcd /opt/09:59
[Surge] I just stopped using Mandrake09:59
CyberMadups..09:59
mike22this is my third day:-P10:00
[Surge] My 7th10:00
leushi everybody10:00
leusnice to meet you10:00
_frank[Surge] : my kopete still works... but it's from KDE 3.4.210:00
mike22I'm just trying kopete10:01
leusI will try another version10:01
mike22I don't like that I can't up arrow to see what I typed10:01
mike22I'm going back to bnirc10:01
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CyberMad[Surge] , how long you have been live with linux?10:02
_frankmike22: try konverse10:02
[Surge] CyberMad: About  8 years10:02
[Surge] Not make that 710:02
mike22it's nice because it keeps everything you type in a buffer and if you move to another channel you do not lose what you have typed10:03
mike22frank: you mean konversation?10:03
CyberMadwow10:03
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[Surge] CyberMad: I started with Slackware 0.9 something or the other in 199710:04
CyberMadmy first linux is redhat 810:04
CyberMadbrb10:05
[Surge] Back in those days you had to answer yes or no  to every package during installation - it took 2 hours if you were quick.10:05
leusDo anybody use other instant messenger?10:05
mike22http://bniemczyk.is-a-geek.com/?newnav=bnirc&page=bnirc10:05
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[Surge] leus: You can also use gaim10:05
[Surge] gaim also does MSN10:05
mike22it's cool too it has festival support10:05
leusthanks10:05
dechleus i use GAIM it has aol msn yahoo etc10:05
[Surge] sudo apt-get install gaim10:05
mike22festival is Text To Speech10:05
mike22it works beautifully with Kubuntu10:06
apokryphosI wonder if there's a plugin for KTTS10:06
apokryphosprobably not, actually10:06
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dechanyone know what to do with a .run file ? example et-linux-2.60.x86.run10:07
Aapzakits on the et website10:07
CyberMadroot@earth:/opt/cxoffice # ls10:07
CyberMadbin  changelog.txt  doc  etc  lib  license.txt  README  support10:07
CyberMadroot@earth:/opt/cxoffice # sh install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh10:07
CyberMadsh: install-crossover-pro-4.1.sh: No such file or directory10:07
CyberMadi guess it's over10:07
CyberMad:(( huhuhuhu10:08
dechEt website ? i got it from 3dgamers which gave no info10:08
crimsundech: chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run && ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run10:08
mike22I had that working a while back but festival is so good and complete it's hard to justify something else10:08
crimsundech: make sure you apply the patch(es), too10:08
bt_dech: do a file whatever.run and it will tell you the type of file it is10:08
Aapzakcrimsun: is right10:08
CyberMadmaybe problem with the convert10:08
dechpathes after 2.60 ?10:08
dechand thanks guys :)10:08
mike22Aapzak: you didn't give me a chance to thank you the other day.  I had a sound lock-up and you fixed it bysudo -killall esd10:10
mike22thanks10:10
mike22sheesh He went again10:11
dechhmm guess my video card isnt installed its really jumpy in et10:12
[Surge] dech: You got an vidia or ATI card?10:13
[Surge] nvidia I mean10:13
dechATI radeon 9200se pci 128mb10:13
[Surge] Hmmm ... ok ask someone else  :)10:13
dech:P10:13
[Surge] I haven't got any experience with ATI's10:13
dechim paying off the last part of my nvidia 6800 ultra this week :D10:13
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dech256mbs of DDR3 joy :D10:14
dechhmm so, anyone know how to check/configure/install an ati video card under kubuntu ? :P10:16
CyberMadwait wait... i guess the CrossOver Installation succeed!10:18
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CyberMadright now i was installing iTunes10:18
apokryphosdech: either use the repositories or manually get it from their site10:18
bogahow can I have kubuntu automount a cdrom?10:19
apokryphosboga: it should do that by default10:19
bogaapokryphos: it doesn't!10:19
CyberMadi'm just using 64 MB graphics card10:19
CyberMad:((10:20
apokryphosboga: is it displayed under media:/10:20
bogaapokryphos: yes it is but on clicking the cdrom, there is nothing?10:20
CyberMadbut i think is ok.. because i don't do game10:20
apokryphosboga: you have to right-click -> mount?10:20
CyberMad6% downloading iTunes10:20
bogaOk...let me try that.10:20
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CyberMadi can't believe it... running iTunes on Linux!!10:21
bogaapokryphos: I have no "mount' option when I right click!10:21
mike22CyberMad: crossroad trial?10:22
apokryphosboga: what do you have?10:22
mike22trial version?10:22
apokryphosboga: odd that it should display the CD and suggest that it's not mounted :|10:22
bogaI have "open in new window, Open in new tab.10:22
dechoh gees10:22
dechi am so happy10:23
dechati made an installer for linux :D10:23
dechlast time i checked it required manual install+kernel compile :P10:23
bogaI also have open with, cervisia, preview in, compress, copyto, properties10:24
[Surge] dech: ATI's linux drivers are getting better slowly - still not as easy as NVIDIA in my opinion - seen so many people struggling with ATI drivers10:24
dechYeah i know what you mean10:24
dechthats the biggest reason i went for the nvidia 6800 ultra over the Ati radeon x85010:24
[Surge] dech: For nvidia drivers in kubuntu :10:25
dechati are nice but nvidia are just so much more compatible10:25
[Surge] Step 1 : apt-get install nvidia-glx10:25
apokryphosboga: can you still manually mount it, though?10:25
[Surge] Step 2 : nvidia-glx-config enable10:25
dech:D10:25
[Surge] Done10:25
dechwow10:26
dechthat IS easy10:26
dechfor ati it seems to now be 10:26
[Surge] Step 3 : Restart X Window server10:26
apokryphosboga: by sudo mount /media/cdrom10:26
dechstep 1 download ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run10:26
dechstep 2 run it10:26
dechdunno after that :P10:26
[Surge] Looks like they are following nvidia's lead with a binary installer10:27
bogaapokryphos: that way, things are OK. But I am looking for an automount feature10:27
dech:)10:27
apokryphosboga: yes, kde already has such a feature; uses a combination of HAL and a few other things. If you don't get a response from someone else here for why it's not working (I have no ide), you may want to try forum and/or mailing list10:28
dechim also intel over amd, new amd's are nice, but i just dont trust the company anymore :P10:28
CyberMadmike22, actually not trial.. full10:28
dechway to many bad personal experiences10:28
mike22trhanks10:28
bogaOk thax10:29
bogathanx10:29
mike22CyberMad: did you download and if so can you make a usable copy of the software in case of a sys crash?10:29
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CyberMadyes i did..10:35
CyberMadi download it from limewire10:35
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CyberMadyou can find it there10:36
_brenthi room10:36
CyberMadwow, mike22 and mike23 10:36
mike22bnirc rules10:36
CyberMadbrother10:36
_brenti have a problem setting up thunderbird as my default mail client. can anybody help me please?10:36
CyberMad:P10:36
mike22http://sfexplore.com/~bniemczyk/wiki/index.php/BnIRC_Startup_File10:37
_brentanyone? ive been looking for hours to the solution10:39
mike22to what?10:39
dechok rebooting after configure of vid10:40
dechwish me luck10:40
[Surge] Rebooting?!10:40
[Surge] No need for that10:40
[Surge] Just restart the X server10:40
_brenti have a problem setting up thunderbird as my default mail client.10:40
decheh10:40
[Surge] Ctrl-Alt-Backspace10:40
dechim not that intelligent with linux yet :P10:40
dechok will do :D10:41
dechthanks10:41
_brentmike 22, where you asking me "to what?"10:41
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mike22yes10:42
mike22help with what?10:42
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dechwahey :D10:43
dechdone10:43
_brentmike22, i have a problem setting up thunderbird as my default mail client.10:43
dechthanks [Surge] 10:43
_brentin kde, sorry10:43
mike22can't help you, sorry10:44
dechok, now, how to change my resolution ? :P10:44
mike22I use the mozilla browser which has t-bird integrated10:44
mike22it also has Im and irc too10:45
_brentmike22, which is that? the mozilla suite, or is there a newer firefox+thunderbird suite?10:45
mike22mozilla suite10:45
_brentoh10:45
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mike22It's closer to the netscape look, which I like better10:46
dechYay got it10:46
_brentwell thanx anyway, i really ove thunderbird and firefox. does mozilla suite mail have rss reader?10:46
dechback to 1024x76810:46
mike22don't know10:46
_brentgotcha10:46
dechbrb10:46
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Oblivionhi10:46
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Oblivionhi10:47
_brentif i install mozilla suite will i have profile conflict with firefox?10:47
dech:) back10:47
mike22no10:47
OblivionHow can I install mozilla10:47
mike22download and follow the install instructions10:48
dechwoah10:48
OblivionI know that, but what is the name of the package?10:49
dechet crashed (assuming its configured to my old vid driver cause it said no open gl) and now my desktop is too big for monitor10:49
dechand it scrolls10:49
dechwheni move to the sides10:49
_brenthmm, i still don't think that will solve my issue anyhow, being that i prefer to browse w/firefox and would want it to use a default email client from firefox (ie send link) it only gives me evolution, which i don't care for.10:49
_frankOblivion: mozilla-browser I think10:49
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_brentoblivian, apt-get install mozilla10:49
apokryphosOblivion: or just get the mozilla metapackage which will drag that in and a few other mozilla-related things10:49
_brentthat should work if you have configured your sources list correctly. see ubuntuguide.org10:50
mike22_brent: you might want to check over at #mozilla10:52
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mike22I think it's server irc.mozilla.net  channel #mozilla10:52
dechok10:53
dechso 10:53
dechhow to uninstall et ? >_<10:53
[Surge] There is normally an uninstall script10:54
_brentill try thanx10:55
decheh10:56
dechjust gotta remember where i installed it :P10:56
_brentdoes anyone know what absolute path of thunderbird install is?10:56
mike22_brent: run sudo updatedb10:59
mike22then run locate t-bird10:59
mike22you'll see it's entire dirctory structure10:59
dechno uninstall script :(11:00
dechjust openurl.sh and etded.sh and of course11:00
dechet11:00
mike22the update vommand takes a while to execute11:01
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_brenthow long?11:02
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_brent=not too long, lol11:03
dechok11:04
dech[Surge]  you wanna look at an et crash output for me ? its a small paragraph about my video and you would unerstand it more :P11:04
[Surge] Sure11:05
dechunderstand*11:05
[Surge] But I give no garauntees11:05
_brentmike22, ok did that. so how do i determine the absolute path from that output? its a lot of lines?11:05
dechHeh thats fine :D11:05
Oblivionthank you for helping me, good bye11:05
mike22ls >out.txt11:05
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mike22then you will be able to read it11:06
mike22locate t-bird >out.txt11:06
_brenti can read it, using scroller, i just dont understand what the output means11:07
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_brenthow do i find the absolute path from the output?11:07
[Surge] lol11:07
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McScruffhow do i find what kernel im running?11:07
[Surge] dech: Use a paste site11:07
othernoobMcScruff: uname -s11:08
mike22what is it you are looking for?11:08
McScruffwohoo11:08
McScruffty11:08
McScruffit says linux11:08
othernoobeh.. uname -a11:08
othernoobdamn finger11:08
McScruffty11:08
dechHeh paste site ?11:08
mike22the exectuables will have a different path then your config files prob stored in /home/_brent/.t-bird11:09
[Surge] dech: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11:09
dechthanks11:09
[Surge] You can paste your long error message there without flooding IRC11:10
[Surge] Or http://rafb.net/paste11:10
dechok http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/140611:11
_brentsorry, im newer to linux and dont fully understand the tree structure11:11
dechwhile you look over it ima restart x cause it made my desktop way bigger than my monitor and i cant see anything unless i croll my monitor to it11:12
dechok nvm11:13
dechjust changed res to 800x600 then back to 1024x768 and its all good11:13
[Surge] You don't have the drivers installed properly11:13
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dech?11:14
[Surge] It's using the Mesa OpenGL software rendering libs11:14
dechIt worked before i installed them :P11:14
dechhmm11:14
mike22_brent:http://clusty.com/search?query=mozilla+irc11:14
dechmaybe et is just configured that way11:14
[Surge] Not the ATI OpenGL hardware rendering libs11:14
[Surge] Nah11:14
dechcause i installed et with them set like that11:14
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[Surge] run "glxgears"11:14
dechthats how they used to be set11:14
dechkk11:14
mike22looks like mozilla has an irc channel11:14
[Surge] dech: You shouldn't get less than 3000 FPS in glxgears with your card11:15
dech:(11:15
dechdech@box:~$ glxgears11:15
dech871 frames in 5.0 seconds = 174.200 FPS11:15
dech675 frames in 5.0 seconds = 135.000 FPS11:15
dech784 frames in 5.0 seconds = 156.800 FPS11:15
dech791 frames in 5.0 seconds = 158.200 FPS11:15
[Surge] Software rendering11:15
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[Surge] Maybe someone here can help you with your ATI - I know nothing about their drivers11:16
[Surge] Or maybe #ubuntu or #linux11:16
dechwoah when i switched to konversation it went upt to 1000fps :P11:16
dechfor the duration of being focused on this window11:16
_brentmike 22, nobody responds and there are only about 9 users in room11:17
dechHmm so anyone here know anything about ATI drivers ? :P11:18
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EasterSunshinedech i assume you have followed ubotu's link?11:39
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dechWhich one ?11:39
EasterSunshineubotu tell dech about ati11:39
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beniaminocan anyone tell me what this means, when launching oowriter2:12:00
beniaminoterminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::configuration::backend::BackendAccessExceptio12:00
beniaminos/BackendAccessExceptio/BackendAccessException'/12:00
mike22beniamino: check with #openoffice12:04

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