[12:00] <mz2> huh, might i just had some really good luck with installing the Breezy snapshot from a few days ago
[12:00] <muffin_> codecaine, i have booted 5.04
[12:00] <no_dammagE> Seveas: didn't know that - never needed that function ^^
[12:00] <Seveas> stizoner, ~/.xchat
[12:00] <codecaine> muffin_, no breezy not hoary
[12:00] <mz2> because now that i tried installing it to my brand new harddrive basically nothing seemed to work
[12:00] <amonkey> all you guys, i don't know how they are detecting it. it's a cisco solution that detects your os.
[12:00] <muffin_> codecaine, breezy is 4.XX?
[12:00] <tenco_> twibbler: Bwl: i think i found the solution :) -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:00] <Seveas> cisco solution
[12:00] <codecaine> 5.10
[12:00] <Seveas> another oxymoron :)
[12:00] <amonkey> i don't think it's a browser issue cuz it doens't say to use IE, it says use XP
[12:01] <stizoner> k i dont see that
[12:01] <dech> hmm alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[12:01] <Seveas> amonkey, well, they migh use TCP/IP chracteristics
[12:01] <Seveas> and that's not easily spoofable
[12:01] <codecaine> loaded breezy colony 3 and video is still screwed, managed to get it up but it loaded a screwed up desktop
[12:01] <no_dammagE> amonkey: use an SSL proxy ^^
[12:01] <Seveas> but i'd go for user-agent string in browser first
[12:01] <Arnia> Hum. I'm contemplating dist-upping to Breezy tonight so I can begin making some of my software work with the new versions. Any severe issues to watch out for atm?
[12:01] <tenco_> twibbler: Bwl: -> "Rev. B of this card will not work out-of-the-box" -> its a rev. B3 so i think this will solve my problem
[12:01] <mz2> crap, the brand new evince also crashes
[12:02] <amonkey> Seveas, explain?
[12:02] <no_dammagE> amonkey: as far as I remember my CCNA course, they are filtering only layer 7. That means HTTP and Samba (and so on). No lower level
[12:02] <sandino> twibbler  same error
[12:02] <codecaine> snon, i wouldnt
[12:02] <twibbler> excellent tenco      rtfm works then if you find the right manual ...
[12:02] <sn0n> codecaine, why not?
[12:02] <codecaine> its unstable
[12:02] <sn0n> and?
[12:02] <sn0n> lol
[12:02] <Seveas> amonkey, too much tech details on the TCP/IP stuff, for the browser stuff -> go to update.mozilla.org and install a firefox extension
[12:02] <snorks> ubuntu suggested 3 GB for swap. isnt that an awful lot?
[12:02] <codecaine> ok
[12:02] <sandino> where can i get kernel sources?
[12:02] <twibbler> sandino when you say same error on modprobe ..
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> www.kernel.org
[12:03] <Seveas> sandino, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[12:03] <twibbler> have you type iwconfig ...
[12:03] <sandino> twibbler yes
[12:03] <diffy> hello
[12:03] <no_dammagE> snorks: it depends on the amount of RAM you have ^^
[12:03] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, that's the bad way on Ubuntu systems...
[12:03] <penticlex> cant seem to mount my HDD to chroot into it
[12:03] <twibbler> shouldn't have to do modprobe ...
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> oh seveas your here ;) got another question
[12:03] <diffy> some one can help me to install GRUB
[12:03] <diffy> ?
[12:03] <snorks> no_dammagE, 1GB Ram
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> im trying to compile my drivers
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config: No such file or directory
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> whats that mean,
[12:03] <snorks> no_dammagE, what should swap be?
[12:03] <Seveas> linux-headers-$(uname -r) is needed
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> me?
[12:03] <Seveas> yes
[12:03] <c0rrupt_> soi
[12:03] <sandino> twibbler yeah .. no wln0
[12:04] <c0rrupt_> i have to install the source?
[12:04] <sandino> wlan0
[12:04] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, no apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:04] <c0rrupt_> ok
[12:04] <twibbler> ok so only other option si to do a complete upgrade of the system ....
[12:04] <no_dammagE> snorks: don't ask me, I take a bit more than RAM I have... e.g. 768-> 1G, but... ask the pros here ;)
[12:04] <twibbler> for this should now be all working ...
[12:04] <sandino> twibbler  me?
[12:04] <c0rrupt_> !search linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:04] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:04] <amonkey> Seveas, i've seen that, it doesn't send windows version  in that, does it? i thought that was strictly browser
[12:04] <steveO_Office> hello all
[12:04] <snorks> how large swap partition should i have with 1GB ram (With ubuntu)?
[12:04] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, the uname -r is a shell trick
[12:04] <c0rrupt_> k
[12:04] <c0rrupt_> thanks
[12:04] <amonkey> Seveas, nm i'm dumb
[12:05] <c0rrupt_> its installing
[12:05] <Seveas> snorks, 512 mb is enough unless you do video editing
[12:05] <no_dammagE> !swap size
[12:05] <ubotu> no_dammagE: Syntax error in line 1
[12:05] <amonkey> Seveas, i frogot that os is in that, will try
[12:05] <no_dammagE> :)
[12:05] <keith> i need a GUIed program that will help me manage my wireless connections
[12:05] <c0rrupt_> its to get the right versionr ight?
[12:05] <no_dammagE> !swap
[12:05] <ubotu> methinks swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[12:05] <sandino> keith check kde page\
[12:05] <diffy> i install windows after ubuntu and this fu** system earse the MBR, so now i hat a dual system but i cant boot on ubuntu, please someone can tell me how to reinstall GRUB in the MBR ?
[12:05] <steveO_Office> ? what tools do you use for scan and connecting to wireless networks??
[12:05] <keith> basically one that will list all available wireless networks and let me connect to them
[12:05] <keith> theres on on there sandino ?
[12:05] <keith> by what name?
[12:05] <c0rrupt_> we should all give seveas 1 dolar for his ubuntu support :)
[12:05] <IcemanV9> iwlist <device> scan
[12:06] <Seveas> diffy, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:06] <no_dammagE> diffy: you'll need a chroot environment from a live CD. Do you have one?
[12:06] <keith> interface does not support scanning IcemanV9
[12:06] <diffy> thaks Seveas
[12:06] <dech> ubotu alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[12:06] <no_dammagE> diffy: I mean livecd
[12:06] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, dech
[12:06] <Seveas> dech, ubotu is a bot :)
[12:06] <IcemanV9> keith: it is not up and running
[12:06] <no_dammagE> hehe
[12:06] <c0rrupt_> hell yea
[12:06] <Mystery47_Newbie> i wanted to get enemy territory off my comp bec i cant get work nvidia....I cant put command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable....can u say nothing about that?
[12:06] <diffy> no_dammagE, i have only install cd non live cd
[12:06] <c0rrupt_> its working
[12:06] <c0rrupt_> !
[12:06] <dech> rofl :)
[12:06] <keith> im on eth0 rightn ow
[12:06] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: I give up, what is it?
[12:06] <sandino> keith look in here http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=230x231x232x233x234x235x236&PHPSESSID=09764df73266dacb7c6676e66246224f
[12:06] <keith> which one?
[12:07] <IcemanV9> keith: what model of wifi card?
[12:07] <muffin_> do i have to execute the standart windows setup (boot from cd) to set up wine???
[12:07] <dech> i was instructed by a bot to type alsamixer and unmute my audigy :P
[12:07] <keith> hmmm how do i check IcemanV9 ? its a laptop and i never took it out
[12:07] <dech> so i did and - alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[12:07] <no_dammagE> hmm, as far as I remember there is GRUB for Win32. You can then install GRUB from Windows the same way you would do that from Linux ...
[12:07] <no_dammagE> !grub windows
[12:07] <ubotu> No idea, no_dammagE
[12:07] <Seveas> dech, ok, look for audigy in the forums
[12:07] <mitsuhiko> muffin_: standard, not standart :)
[12:07] <Seveas> you have a bit bigger problem, solved by people over there
[12:07] <dech> at ubuntu.com ?
[12:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> i wanted to get enemy territory off my comp bec i cant get work nvidia....I cant put command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable....can u say nothing about that?
[12:08] <Seveas> dech, ubuntuforums.org
[12:08] <dech> ok thanks :)
[12:08] <stizoner> np: KoRn - Children Of The Korn (0:55/3:52)
[12:08] <muffin_> mitsuhiko, sorry, in german its standart
[12:08] <Seveas> stizoner, switch that off
[12:08] <mitsuhiko> muffin_: no. issn't :)
[12:09] <stizoner> bah
[12:09] <c0rrupt_> test
[12:09] <steveO_Office> keith, what kind of laptop? make and M... # how old?
[12:09] <Seveas> !test
[12:09] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:11] <muffin_> do i have to execute the windows setup (boot from cd etc) to set up wine???
[12:11] <muffin_> !bill gates
[12:11] <ubotu> muffin_: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:11] <keith> dell inspirion 600m steveO_Office
[12:12] <Seveas> muffin_, no, installing the wine package will setup wine
[12:12] <IcemanV9> keith: ha. built-in then
[12:12] <rebel_> any eqers that have cvswine/cedega/cvscedega workin?
[12:12] <keith> ok, so...? IcemanV9  what does that mean
[12:12] <IcemanV9> keith: ifconfig .. to see if there is a wifi or not
[12:12] <keith> and how do i easily see a list of available networks, preferably in a GUIed program, and conncet to them
[12:12] <muffin_> Seveas, but its useless, isn't it?
[12:12] <phanter> hello, I just installed openoffice2, but I do not find the shortcuts in the menu. How do I start the program?
[12:12] <muffin_> Seveas, without a windows setup...?!
[12:12] <rebel_> try gtkwifi keith
[12:12] <keith> what kinda list shoud i see IcemanV9 ?
[12:13] <Seveas> muffin_, if you want to run an emulated windows system, wine is not for you, you need vmware or qemu
[12:13] <ompaul> what is the name after the badger?
[12:13] <iiiears> rebel - wow wine is tough. - fought with it for an hour to install an 8 year old game.
[12:13] <IcemanV9> eth0 lo + wifi card (wlan, ath0)
[12:13] <Seveas> ompaul, sabdfl will come up with one in october :)
[12:13] <muffin_> Seveas, i just want to run windows apps
[12:13] <rebel_> iiiears, yea i used the *.deb to instlal cedega and it worked but ran like shit...heard the cvs buidl works better...but can't get eq to load
[12:13] <keith> how do i runa .deb then rebel_ ?
[12:14] <keith> cause thats what its in on soruceforge
[12:14] <ompaul> Seveas, there is that
[12:14] <rebel_> search the ubuntu forums
[12:14] <Mystery47_Newbie> thanks all helps!
[12:14] <steveO_Office> keith, it looks to be a intel pro 2100 you can also reboot to winshit and look in the Manager uner networks
[12:14] <rebel_> dkpg or somethinm like that, and find the arguments
[12:14] <keith> steveO_Office,  im looking for a way to connect to my wireless network if disconnected or presented with multiple options WITHOUT having to reboot
[12:15] <p0z3r> has anyone had a problem with laptops and unbuntu installs where the screen cycles like bad television reception?
[12:15] <muffin_> i have no windows installed on my system (good, isn'T it), can i run windows apps with wine??? (Y/N)
[12:15] <lurah> hmm...something im doing wrong here :D
[12:15] <lurah> http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=113.0
[12:16] <ompaul> Seveas, maybe Gracious 'Golden\ Orb' it is a type of spider and a rather nice one - biggest I ever saw in my life was in a jungle it spanned about 18 inches (45 cm) across it was a little longer and it had a web that was over 5 meters wide
[12:16] <no_dammagE> ah, my X is now working. A small question: I have a backup of my /home (actually it was on a different partition). How do I setup proper mods (chmod)? KDE fails due to no write access to files in /home/user and I really don't want to chmod 777 all home folders ...
[12:16] <Seveas> muffin_, yes.
[12:16] <twibbler> keith : if you have configure the wireless lan correctly it will automatically reconnect .
[12:16] <freedomjazzdance> ok well what ever....
[12:16] <misfit_toy> muffin_, that's what wine is for
[12:16] <muffin_> thx
[12:16] <lurah> im stuck at "make-kpkg revision=2.6.12.4+xxxxxx kernel_image". says "command not found"
[12:16] <freedomjazzdance> i reboot my machine and it was able to access the internet....
[12:16] <keith> twibbler, it does but im still looking for a way to switch networks when preseted with multiple points
[12:16] <Seveas> lurah, install kernel-package
[12:16] <ompaul> Seveas, in a city environment it was about 4 inches in size
[12:16] <twibbler> iwlist
[12:16] <steveO_Office> keith, I have been told that wlassistant is a sweet tool but Im going to try it out in a couple of hours after work
[12:17] <keith> steveO_Office, im having trouble figuring out how to install wlassistant cause theres no package and i have no idea how to run a .deb
[12:17] <no_dammagE> Seveas: what are proper access mods for /home/*?
[12:17] <iiiears> muffin_ - some popular games have ports. - loki did several before they went bankrupt.
[12:17] <skalpel> hi
[12:17] <skalpel> can someone tell me why when a user uploads a file on to my computer other useres do not have rwx access to those folders/files, and how can i change this?
[12:17] <steveO_Office> heheh
[12:17] <twibbler> keith dpkg -i ???.deb
[12:17] <keith> oooh lemme try that then thanks
[12:17] <omp342> im gonna try installing ubuntu again
[12:18] <decaf> skalpel: keyword is 'umask'
[12:18] <steveO_Office> I can put a how to togher for it tomorrow..... after getting it up and running
[12:18] <Seveas> no_dammagE, 755
[12:18] <no_dammagE> Seveas: thank you
[12:18] <keith> that didnt work twibbler
[12:18] <keith> hmmm dependency problems... imma go work on this. thanks guys
[12:18] <florian_> hey, is there a german ubuntu-chat?
[12:18] <phanter> how do I start openoffice2 after installing it via synaptic? Or how can I find it out?
[12:18] <Seveas> keith apt-get -f instal
[12:18] <Seveas> keith apt-get -f install
[12:19] <Seveas> florian_, #ubuntu-de
[12:19] <lurah> seveas. ok, different problem but im prolly goin on right way here :D
[12:19] <trapped> hey guys what client is good to use?
[12:19] <florian_> thx
[12:19] <trapped> irc client******
[12:19] <decaf> trapped: client for what ?
[12:19] <trapped> ^^^ sory
[12:19] <stizoner> xchat i guess trapped
[12:19] <Seveas> xchat (GUI) or irssi (CLI)
[12:19] <decaf> trapped: I'm happy with xchat. some KDE people likes konverstaion
[12:20] <stizoner> its no mirc but it works
[12:20] <trapped> Seveas, thanks
[12:20] <Spudchat> hi guys i need a little help with cedega
[12:20] <rob^> mirc..
[12:20] <mz2> stizoner, not trying to start a war but xchat is waaay flashier and nicer than mirc :)
[12:20] <trapped> decaf, thanks, yeah not using kde, for religious reasons =o)
[12:20] <muffin_> Spidchat, who doesnt...
[12:20] <Spudchat> should i download the deb package or the tgz?
[12:20] <Spudchat> uho
[12:20] <Spudchat> uhoh*
[12:20] <stizoner> i dunno i must have downloaded the wrong version then
[12:21] <Seveas> Spudchat, deb
[12:21] <trapped> stizoner thanks dood
[12:21] <Spudchat> allright i got it now how would i install it?
[12:21] <Spudchat> sorry im still a linux n00b
[12:21] <Seveas> mirc has more features, but a very crappy scripting language
[12:21] <trapped> dont do that again... =o)
[12:22] <skalpel> nothing is as bad as chatzilla. i tried it once. ugh
[12:22] <stizoner> yeah chatzilla is pretty damn bad
[12:22] <Spudchat> would i use dkpg to intsall it?
[12:22] <mz2> Seveas, i just categorically hate MDI, my view might be a bit biased because of that :)
[12:22] <oferet> pfp, the reason my installation did now work was because of the cd(at least that's what it seems)
[12:22] <Seveas> mz2, MDI..?
[12:22] <oferet> are you still around pfp ?
[12:22] <trapped> bitchx?
[12:23] <skalpel> irssi
[12:23] <skalpel> can someone tell me why when i try to use sudo it asks me for my password yet will not accept it, only for one user?
[12:23] <mz2> Seveas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_document_interface
[12:23] <Seveas> skalpel, only the first created user has sudo rights
[12:23] <Seveas> mz2, check
[12:23] <darkheart> skalpel Did you check out the visudo command?
[12:23] <Seveas> it's indeed evil
[12:24] <iiiears> how can you connect to irc without an xserver running?
[12:24] <skalpel> darkheart: yes but for some reason it wont work with teh command i am using
[12:24] <Seveas> skalpel, to give other users sudo access: adduser USERNAME admin
[12:24] <lurah> darn. cant get my kernel compiled...
[12:24] <Seveas> iiiears, irssi :)
[12:24] <darkheart> skalpel No no...you run visudo, edit that file to allow the users you want, then you can use sudo
[12:24] <iiiears> Cool - :)
[12:24] <skalpel> ah, thank you very much
[12:24] <Seveas> darkheart, hoary makes that easier
[12:24] <Seveas> the admin group has complete access
[12:25] <Spudchat> dpkg -i /PATH_TO PACKAGE/PACKAGE_NAME is what it tells me to use
[12:25] <darkheart> Seveas These new systems...when I was young, I had to modify every file in /etc/ just to get my...
[12:25] <darkheart> =P
[12:25] <Spudchat> but when i fill it in correctly it says that Desktop is not a file or folder
[12:25] <iiiears> darkheart. - grin
[12:25] <Seveas> lol grandpa :p
[12:26] <skalpel> darkheart: does this look correct? # User privilege specification
[12:26] <skalpel> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:26] <skalpel> bonnie  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:27] <Seveas> looks fine
[12:27] <skalpel> K
[12:28] <skalpel> seveas: now that ihave used umask on teh directory where the uploads will be coming in, those files should be rwx by fdefault for all users, correct?
[12:28] <Spudchat> allright i think i got it
[12:30] <ninjafish> Hi, my laptop seems to overheat a lot when using Ubuntu and turn itself off. Is this possible or a coincedence?
[12:31] <letme0ut> ninjafish,
[12:31] <MrPockets> Ubuntu runs a bit easier then any Windows os,  if its shutting down because over heating, Ubuntu isnt the problem
[12:31] <letme0ut> i do not think it would be ubuntu doing this
[12:31] <Seveas> ninjafish, did you disable acpi?
[12:31] <ninjafish> o.k.
[12:31] <MrPockets> however it could be shutting down because ubuntu due to a non heat related problem,
[12:32] <letme0ut> ninjafish, the only thing i can think of
[12:32] <letme0ut> is that your CPU has throttling enabled
[12:32] <letme0ut> or disabled
[12:32] <letme0ut> and is staying throttled to the highest setting
[12:32] <david_1> hey, i've got an issue
[12:32] <letme0ut> my ubuntu laptop usually throttles down to about 700mhz when it gets too hot
[12:33] <ninjafish> It exits to a non graphical shell, then turns off, it is then very hot. It does have a silly Pentium 4 chip
[12:33] <Juhaz> it's not uncommon for laptop to run hotter in Linux, running "easier" doesn't have much anything to do with it
[12:33] <letme0ut> ah
[12:33] <david_1> the icons in my application switcher bar keep changing size
[12:33] <skalpel> does anyone know where i can find the gstreamer-08-lame package?
[12:33] <letme0ut> i have pentium 3
[12:33] <letme0ut> XD
[12:33] <david_1> sometimes they fill the entire bar, sometimes they shrink in the corner and it's getting really annoying.
[12:33] <reiki> Woot!  I did it! I got Spamassassin working with Evolution VERY simply.  One filter added to Evolution and it pipes through Spamassassin when picking up mail.
[12:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> does alsamixer have anything remotely similar to 'wave cap' ?
[12:34] <skalpel> does anyone else here use bloGTK?
[12:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> i'm trying to turn it off but can't find it anywhere
[12:34] <darkheart> skalpel Hoary extras repos
[12:34] <DVSoftware> very strange, but i can't find avidemux package in synaptic on 64bit ubuntu
[12:34] <[Spooky] > is there a ftp to manualy download the latest updates ?
[12:34] <DVSoftware> but it exists on 32bit
[12:35] <oferet> hey guys
[12:35] <oferet> I have a question
[12:35] <Seveas> [Spooky] , why manually?
[12:35] <pfp> oferet: cool, so its installing now?
[12:35] <oferet> oh
[12:35] <oferet> yes
[12:35] <oferet> but it got stuck
[12:35] <pfp> oferet: (still, or again, lost sleep :()
[12:35] <oferet> the cd was scratched
[12:35] <oferet> that's why it did not work
[12:35] <pfp> oh
[12:35] <oferet> I burned anew one
[12:35] <pfp> too simple :)
[12:36] <oferet> but now
[12:36] <[Spooky] > Seveas: cause i wanna burn them on a cd and use on another computer, that dosent have internet...
[12:36] <oferet> its' always the simple things
[12:36] <skalpel> darkheart: can you give me the url so i can add it to my sources.list?
[12:36] <oferet> but now I am getting stuck after it trying to do: Setting the system clock using the hardware as reference...
[12:36] <oferet> it says after
[12:36] <DVSoftware> please...
[12:36] <DVSoftware> i need avidemux
[12:36] <oferet> irq 10: nobody cared (try booting with teh "irqpoll" options.
[12:37] <darkheart> !tell skalpel about repositories
[12:37] <c0rrupt__> ah
[12:37] <c0rrupt__> driver works fine..
[12:37] <c0rrupt__> but
[12:37] <c0rrupt__> its not associating with my router
[12:37] <darkheart> skalpel It might be in there.
[12:37] <oferet> what does it mean
[12:37] <pfp> DVSoftware: you need to compile that by hand
[12:37] <c0rrupt__> anyone know any tricks with rtl8180
[12:37] <oferet> it also has a comment on handlers
[12:37] <MrPockets> will XMMS play videos?
[12:37] <DVSoftware> pfp, but on my 32bit machine i've just installed it from synaptic
[12:37] <DVSoftware> MrPockets, yes with mplayer plugin
[12:38] <MrPockets> where do i find said plug in?
[12:38] <skalpel> darkheart: how come i do not have gstreamer08lame in my packagelist then?
[12:38] <DVSoftware> www.xmms.org
[12:38] <DVSoftware> MrPockets, but you need mplayer installed
[12:38] <pfp> oferet: hmm, have you googled on that
[12:38] <Karhuton> Aug 19 01:36:11 localhost kernel: Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:04:61:52:57:73:00:05:9a:6a:4c:1c:08:00 SRC=61.137.117.208 DST=62.142.131.17 LEN=347 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=52 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=42393 DPT=1026 LEN=327 <--- I'm getting this kind of stuff flooded to syslog
[12:39] <darkheart> skalpel You have the extra repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[12:39] <DVSoftware> hm, just found debian sid package
[12:39] <DVSoftware> is it safe to install it
[12:39] <DVSoftware> in ubuntu?
[12:39] <DVSoftware> [   ]  avidemux_2.0.42-0.0_amd64.deb                   23-Jul-2005 00:38   1.7M
[12:40] <aroman> how can I figure out what version of gcc a binary has been compiled with?
[12:40] <pfp> DVSoftware: if it doesn't demand debian's libc or other radical stuff, iirc some debian pkg i tried did, which is why i decided to compile it
[12:40] <havunet> #ubuntu
[12:40] <DVSoftware> i'll try it, if it doesn't work, i will compile
[12:41] <linyang> what do i need to install to play movies ?
[12:41] <oferet> pfp, did not find anything yet. but I did not look hard, Iwas hoping you are familiar with the issue
[12:41] <linyang> except codecs
[12:41] <pfp> oferet: i haven't seen that particular option before, otherwise ~yes
[12:42] <DVSoftware> one more question
[12:42] <c0rrupt__> does anyone use rtl8180?
[12:42] <[Spooky] > linyang: try the VLC
[12:42] <DVSoftware> where do i need to put commands
[12:42] <DVSoftware> that i want to be started just after booting
[12:42] <DVSoftware> c0rrupt__, me
[12:43] <DVSoftware> dlink dwl510 with that chip
[12:43] <gabriel_> hi.does anyone have a asus m6ne laptop. i'm trying to figure out how hibernation should work
[12:43] <linyang> [Spooky] : i tried it, but it does play my avi videos (it plays it on another ubuntu computer)
[12:44] <DVSoftware> gabriel_, i have hp compaq nx9105 and hibernation doesn't work either
[12:44] <linyang> [Spooky] : doesn't
[12:44] <pfp> oferet: hmm, you dont have a digital camera by any chance?
[12:45] <pfp> oferet: oh, it's irpoll option_, in singular
[12:45] <gabriel_> dvsoftware: when i press sleep mode it works. when i press hibernation mode i get to the log in mask. is that right?
[12:45] <DVSoftware> where do i need to put commands that i want to be started just after the boot process?
[12:45] <pfp> DVSoftware: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:46] <DVSoftware> gabriel_, when i hibernate my computer, it won't boot up again
[12:46] <omp342> hi guys
[12:46] <omp342> i just installed ubuntu
[12:46] <omp342> it never asked me for a password for root
[12:46] <omp342> :/
[12:46] <pfp> oferet: do you have ubuntu installed on the hd already or is this still an installer issue
[12:46] <benjamin1254> omp man u never installed it... r u crazy...
[12:47] <DVSoftware> pfp, when is tha called? i need it to be done after bringing up network connection
[12:47] <oferet> pfp: yep
[12:47] <omp342> lol
[12:47] <eklektik> can anyone help me with Azureus?
[12:47] <oferet> how do I run it in that mode ?
[12:47] <omp342> brb
[12:47] <gabriel_> cool. i0m in a beter position then.
[12:47] <gabriel_> it didn't ask for a root psw to me too...
[12:47] <costal> hello list
[12:47] <benjamin1254> helo postle costle
[12:48] <DVSoftware> pfp ?
[12:48] <costal> I'm looking for monodevelop ide for ubuntu
[12:48] <omp342> now i dont know how to get into root =/
[12:48] <DVSoftware> omp342,
[12:48] <tenco> i am searching for an app which works like del.ic.ious for local files instead of bookmarks (tagging)
[12:48] <tenco> like: i can tag files and let list the app files which have a certain tag
[12:48] <DVSoftware> sudo -i
[12:48] <pfp> DVSoftware: look in /etc/rcS.d/ , botomisc comes after networking
[12:48] <DVSoftware> and your password
[12:48] <Xappe> omp342: root is disabled in ubuntu, use sudo instead
[12:48] <costal> the tseng repositories don't work
[12:49] <omp342> ok
[12:49] <iiiears> !root
[12:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:50] <Xappe> ah, ubotu has given this channel a facelift :)
[12:50] <pfp> oferet: ok, then in the grub (boot) menu, press E to edit the boot sequence, then (i think E) on the line that says vmlinuz bla bla quiet splash
[12:50] <MrPockets> hey, where do i plop the skins for XMMS?
[12:50] <iiiears> ubotu cafuego
[12:50] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, iiiears
[12:51] <cafuego> iiiears: whatnow?
[12:51] <DVSoftware> MrPockets, /home/yourusername/.xmms/Skins i guess
[12:51] <D2DChat> hello, i was wondering if ubuntu is only one cd big
[12:51] <cafuego> D2DChat: The initial base install is, yes.
[12:51] <iiiears> someone just admired your work
[12:51] <pfp> oferet: then add 'irqpoll' on that line , enter, and B to boot
[12:51] <omp342> ok sudo -i worked :)
[12:51] <cafuego> D2DChat: There is an additional 9.8GB of software (compressed) online.
[12:51] <gabriel_> i'm new to linux. how should the hibernation process work? i press hibernation and i get to the login mask. then what should i do? if i enter my password i get back to the desktop.
[12:51] <omp342> so "sudo -i" is basically like what "su -" is in fedora?
[12:52] <D2DChat> cafuego: so when i bootup the first cd and get it going
[12:52] <D2DChat> cafuego: its going to install the rest online?
[12:52] <DVSoftware> cafuego, is it possible to mirror local copy of apt repositories?
[12:52] <cafuego> omp342: More or less; sudo can be configured to allow only certain apps to certain users.
[12:52] <MrPockets> theres no .xmms in my username folder
[12:52] <cafuego> DVSoftware: Sure, just keep in mine it's 10GB times 3 arches plus source files.
[12:52] <iiiears> sudoers file
[12:53] <cafuego> DVSoftware: There's a ubuntu DVD as well, which I believe has just about everything
[12:53] <oferet> pfp, on the hd. it's ubuntu's first run
[12:53] <DVSoftware> hmm
[12:53] <DVSoftware> it's not a problem with 100mbit internet connection
[12:53] <gabriel_> is there a list of all that software?
[12:54] <DVSoftware> MrPockets, it's hidden folder
[12:54] <cafuego> DVSoftware: Not for you; it's unneccesary load on the mirror, though - slows it down for others.
[12:54] <amonkey> why does burning a cd take 100% of the proc?
[12:54] <DVSoftware> ahhhh... :)
[12:54] <D2DChat> cafuego: Was I correct in my assumption?
[12:54] <omp342> i think i like this more than fedora
[12:54] <MrPockets> DVSoftware how do i unhide her?
[12:54] <cafuego> D2DChat: No, it installs from CD only; that gves you a full X /Gnome system.
[12:55] <cafuego> D2DChat: You can then add stuff from online, if you want/need it.
[12:55] <gabriel_> so... is there a list of all that software?
[12:55] <DVSoftware> MrPockets, well, i'm using kde, and i think it's View>show hidden files
[12:55] <MrPockets> brilliant
[12:55] <MrPockets> thanks
[12:55] <omp342> is WINE easy to install? :)
[12:55] <DVSoftware> np
[12:55] <cafuego> gabriel_: The Packages.gz file on the mirror
[12:55] <DVSoftware> omp342, relatively
[12:55] <Xappe> MrPockets: ctrl + h in nautilus
[12:55] <pfp> oferet: right, did you see what i wrote about grub above
[12:56] <cafuego> gabriel_: Also see '/msg ubotu find <packagename>' and packages.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <cafuego> !dstats hoary
[12:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[12:56] <chrismy> hm guys how do i check for my User and Group name for configuring Apache and PHP?
[12:56] <DVSoftware> w00t
[12:56] <cafuego> 31 GB uncompressed; and that's just i386
[12:56] <DVSoftware> cafuego, i guess amd64 repo is smaller
[12:56] <Ice9> how do I get to the alsa mixer?
[12:56] <gabriel_> cafuego: tnks ill give it a look
[12:56] <oferet> pfp: now I did
[12:56] <cafuego> DVSoftware: A bit, but not much.
[12:57] <oferet> I will do so momenterily
[12:57] <pfp> k
[12:57] <Xappe> Ice9: type alsamixer in a terminal window
[12:57] <DVSoftware> brb
[12:57] <DVSoftware> rebooting my server
[12:57] <snorks> !ati
[12:57] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:57] <costal> do you know where i can find the monodevelop ide for ubuntu
[12:57] <DVSoftware> to test automatic internet connection :)
[12:58] <omp342> time to install WINE :)
[12:58] <oferet> pfp: another comment, I do not have a ps2 mouse in this pc. Even the keyboard is not ps2 cause its so old. So I have a usb pci card. As soon as I plug the mouse into the usb port, ubuntu gets stuck during the initialization
[12:58] <chrismy> how do i check for my User and Group name for configuring Apache and PHP?
[12:59] <snorks> why is it said that openoffice doesnt work under amd64, but it works for me (amd64) while starting it via menu? does ubuntu chroot a 32bit env automagically or what is up?
[12:59] <darkheart> chrismy You want to look for the user that runs Apache? Not sure what you want, but look in /etc/groups
[12:59] <tck> is there a working wiki for orinoco cards with hoary whilst running kismet ?
[12:59] <oferet> pfp: pressing e does not allow to alter the boot sequence. I am going to try to something else. It says that I ahve to press Esc to get into the menu
[12:59] <avanspronsen> chrismy: www-data
[01:00] <pfp> oferet: oh, press esc 1st, then in the menu, press e
[01:00] <danielle> hi
[01:00] <danielle> heyheyhey
[01:00] <oferet> pfp: I am all about comments after it gets stuck is stays that it is disabling IRQ 10
[01:01] <chrismy> avanspronsen, darkheart , erm...yes the www-date place. but how do i know what is my User name and Group name? i mean how to check
[01:01] <oferet> pfp, brb
[01:01] <chrismy> avanspronsen, darkheart , i have not set that because i do not know
[01:01] <danielle> any hott guys want to chat press 666
[01:01] <gabriel_> is there a special chan for suspend to disk problem?
[01:02] <costal> if you want to know what is the user and group you can try with id command
[01:02] <darkheart> chrismy I don't understand..you mean for the account you are logged in as?
[01:02] <darkheart> No hot guys in here I guess =P
[01:02] <iiiears> lol
[01:02] <popey> whuh.. hot!?
[01:02] <D2DChat> darkheart: im hot, what are you talking about;)
[01:02] <D2DChat> jk
[01:02] <D2DChat> lol
[01:03] <D2DChat> my gf is hot, im not
[01:03] <dech> lol, i think its ironic that it was asked in ubuntu, adn everyone just kept on talking about ubuntu :D
[01:03] <D2DChat> lol
[01:03] <omp342> someone help me
[01:03] <popey> not ironic, just perfectly normal
[01:03] <omp342> i tried to install WINE with apt-get
[01:03] <popey> (for geeks)
[01:03] <omp342> and i got this
[01:03] <omp342> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[01:04] <omp342> where can i get mstcorefonts?
[01:04] <dech> well yeah irony was how i ws going to state the other sentence but i changed how i was wording it mid sentence, but left irony there
[01:04] <darkheart> =)
[01:04] <iiiears> omp enable multiverse
[01:04] <chrismy> darkheart, sorry,...i do not know how to put it. hmmm ok it is needed to setup the User and Group in apache2.conf. I could not do anything because i am not sure of my User and Group name.
[01:04] <Dreamer3_> ok
[01:04] <Dreamer3_> running xfce
[01:04] <iiiears> "msttcorefonts" - yes?
[01:04] <Dreamer3_> what do i need to do to get xscreensaver to load by default?
[01:05] <dvsoftware__> great
[01:05] <omp342> how do i enable multiverse, iiiears?
[01:05] <dvsoftware__> it works
[01:05] <omp342> i just got ubuntu today :D
[01:05] <pfp> oferet: sorry, i have to take care of some stuff ->
[01:05] <tck> is there an easy way of running kismet with hoary yet
[01:05] <tck> is there an easy way of running kismet with hoary yet
[01:05] <tck> is there an easy way of running kismet with hoary yet ?
[01:05] <tck> shit sorry.
[01:05] <dvsoftware__> stop flooding
[01:05] <tck> :(
[01:05] <tck> i DID NOT mean that
[01:05] <oferet> pfp still around ?
[01:06] <tck> now u see how shit this laptop really is
[01:06] <dvsoftware__> why?
[01:06] <pfp> oferet: sorry, BBL
[01:06] <ProN00b> why are ubuntu packages so outdated ? *_*
[01:06] <iiiears> omp - synaptic package manager .. repositories .. pluss sign to add .. universe community supported.
[01:06] <il_padrino> idesk 0.7.3 is is breezy ?
[01:07] <dech> Hmm i dont know if this will shed ony light on my situation but i get this msg on log in
[01:07] <costal> does anybody has monodevelop ide ?
[01:07] <dech> Sound server informational message:
[01:07] <dech> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[01:07] <dech> device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)
[01:07] <dech> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
[01:07] <darkheart> chrismy You are editing the apache conf right? It is probably asking for the user/group that apache runs under.
[01:07] <dvsoftware__> dech, kde?
[01:08] <dech> Yep, using kubuntu
[01:08] <dvsoftware__> go into control center
[01:08] <dvsoftware__> sound system
[01:08] <dvsoftware__> sound server
[01:08] <dvsoftware__> hardware
[01:08] <dvsoftware__> and try to change sound server
[01:08] <Dreamer3_> anyone?
[01:08] <chrismy> darkheart, is my user name in the  USER DETAILS and group name under Groups?
[01:08] <chrismy> darkheart, yes. but i do not know what is my User and Group name
[01:08] <dvsoftware__> DVSoftware, go away god damn it
[01:09] <chrismy> darkheart, and when i typed in the exact thing and restarted APcahe2, it said something is invalid
[01:09] <darkheart> chrismy Okay, it's not your user and group
[01:09] <chrismy> darkheart, not? ok guide me. what should i do now
[01:10] <chrismy> darkheart, please:D
[01:10] <dech> hmm i got sounds + multimedia -> sound system -> then go to hardware, and then ?
[01:10] <ibthomson> is it possible to have Wine installed under 64-bit?
[01:10] <dech> im not entirely sure what you mean by change sound server
[01:10] <darkheart> chrismy Sorry, I'm at work so a bit busy to guide, but try entering www-data for user and group in the conf file, also, paste the section you are modifying in the conf file somewhere (like pastebin)
[01:11] <omp342> iiiears, that would be great IF i knew how to get to synaptic package manager :D
[01:11] <cafuego> ibthomson: Ye-es.... but by far the best way to go about it is by having a 32bit chroot install.
[01:11] <chrismy> darkheart, pastebin? what is that?
[01:11] <randin> i just bought an atheros 5212 based wifi card for my laptop, the one i had borrowed work perfect before but this new one gets an average of 35% packet loss in ubuntu, but it works fine in knoppix
[01:11] <ibthomson> cafuego: I see. thanks
[01:11] <randin> worked*
[01:11] <darkheart> !tell chrismy about pastebin
[01:11] <Peaker> How do I re-invoke the network configuration that appeared in the installation?
[01:12] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: no need, simplt go to system-> administration->networking
[01:12] <chrismy> darkheart, oh lol ok i have imagebin.org
[01:12] <Spudchat> allright so i got cedega workin and just installed a bunch of games
[01:12] <Peaker> HrdwrBoB: In what program? I don't have X working yet
[01:12] <omp342> never mind
[01:12] <Spudchat> do i need to worry about defraging the hdd?
[01:12] <iiiears> oops - sorry.. task bar .. "System" .. Administration .. Synaptic Package manager .. settings .. repositories .. add .. universe communitty supported
[01:12] <omp342> i found out how to get to synaptic package manager :)
[01:13] <Peaker> HrdwrBoB: X didn't work out of the box (VAIO fs laptop, I think it needs newer nVidia drivers :(  )
[01:13] <chrismy> darkheart, so you want to see the file is that it? coz i do not know what actually my User and Group names are
[01:13] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: X should work automatically
[01:13] <HrdwrBoB> ah
[01:13] <omp342> ya i found out thanks
[01:13] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: if you just want dhcp use 'sudo dhclient'
[01:13] <darkheart> chrismy Just paste the part that you are modifying.
[01:13] <Portugues> hello, i need help, i was trying to add extra repositories, and i got this error: (sorry the flood)
[01:13] <Portugues> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following s ignatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing  Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:13] <dech> dvsoftware__ hmm i got sounds + multimedia -> sound system -> then go to hardware, and then ?
[01:13] <iiiears> It must a been my speedy typing that helped eh? - lol
[01:13] <Portugues> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signin g Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:13] <Peaker> HrdwrBoB: There's no way to rerun the (very nice) network configurator from the installer?
[01:13] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: not afaik
[01:13] <dvsoftware__> dech, try to change sound server
[01:14] <dvsoftware__> you have combobox
[01:14] <Peaker> Oh that sucks... Make such a nice tool and then "hard-wire" it to be only run from one spot..
[01:14] <duality_> how can I list so that directories come first? (like on Windows)
[01:14] <Peaker> Anyone runs ubuntu on Sony VAIO fs laptops?
[01:14] <chope> hi, ive downloaded a 1.44 diskette image with ".144" extension, do you know i could write this to a diskette?
[01:15] <omp342> vaio
[01:15] <omp342> ahh
[01:15] <omp342> vaio's dont like linux
[01:15] <omp342> :D
[01:15] <Peaker> omp342: Really? :(
[01:15] <omp342> well
[01:15] <omp342> at least if you use the recovery disks they gave to install xp
[01:15] <dark^ngel> chope,: dd
[01:15] <cafuego> Peaker: 'etherconf'
[01:16] <gabriel_> how does hibernation work? just to know. i press hibernate and i get to login menu. should i press now the power button? will it boot up again to the actual pointor if i get to the login menu i'm not properly set?
[01:16] <dech> dvsoftware__ i got a combo box with select audio device, with autodetect, open sound system, etc in it, changin those does nothing, other than that no combo boxes
[01:16] <rob__> hey guys...
[01:16] <Peaker> omp342: Nope I don't dual boot, I only want to use ubunutu
[01:16] <rob__> :-X
[01:16] <sn0n> i hella borked ubuntu
[01:16] <sn0n> broke x
[01:16] <oferet> hello all, I would like to know how can I run my system with the irpoll options
[01:16] <Peaker> cafuego: Thanks I'll try that
[01:16] <dvsoftware__> dech, try open sound system
[01:16] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: why, there's no need
[01:16] <oferet> where should I plug it in
[01:16] <dvsoftware__> i'm using that
[01:16] <sn0n> tried a breezy.. LoL
[01:16] <oferet> I am right now in the boot sequence modifications area
[01:16] <dech> I just tried that then, on apply/restart sound, same error msg appears
[01:16] <sn0n> how can i force a hoary base install of all packages ?
[01:16] <DVSoftware> and alsa?
[01:17] <Peaker> cafuego: You sure that's exact?  I don't have that binary and no such package (apt-cache search etherconf)
[01:17] <chrismy> darkheart, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i1371
[01:17] <oferet> irqpoll options anybody ?
[01:17] <tiglionabbit> I installed sun-j2sdk1.5 and firefox still doesn't see it
[01:17] <dech> same error msg except instead of dev/whatever its called default
[01:18] <gabriel_> nobody uses hibernation on laptops?
[01:18] <gabriel_> d
[01:18] <chrismy> darkheart, like that?
[01:18] <Xappe> tiglionabbit: have you symlinked the plugin?
[01:18] <Peaker> HrdwrBoB: There's no need to..?
[01:18] <concept10> anyone decent with gimp here?
[01:18] <dark^ngel> concept10: I might be
[01:19] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: run the tool again
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> Xappe: nope, it doesn't say that in the wiki, what do I need to link?
[01:19] <sn0n> how can i force a hoary base install of all packages ?   anyone.. i've got a unusable X and no gnome now.. :-X
[01:19] <GregAsche> is there any simple gif animators out there?
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:19] <GregAsche> something that isn't real complucated
[01:19] <GregAsche> *complicated
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> GregAsche: gap?
[01:19] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: it's assumed you actually set it up the first time :)
[01:19] <DVSoftware> the only thing i miss in gimp is the styles thing in photoshop
[01:19] <speel> GregAsche:>> i think gimp does gif animating
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> it does
[01:20] <oferet> how cna I activate the IRQPOLL options
[01:20] <dech> DVSoftware same error msg except instead of dev/whatever its called default
[01:20] <oferet> does ubuntu have a problem with a usb PCI card
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> sn0n: get "ubuntu-desktop"
[01:20] <DVSoftware> argh
[01:20] <oferet> ?
[01:20] <oferet> anybody ?
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> add irqpoll to the kernel line
[01:20] <DVSoftware> you sure your sound card is supported/working?
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> Xappe: how do I link it?
[01:20] <oferet> I am there
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: you mean a PCI USB card
[01:20] <dech> i have a soundblaster audigy 2 value
[01:20] <DVSoftware> hm
[01:20] <dech> pci
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: it should work
[01:20] <DVSoftware> go to www.opensound.com
[01:21] <sn0n> thnx
[01:21] <DVSoftware> download free ver
[01:21] <DVSoftware> and try with that
[01:21] <dech> ok thanks, will let you know :)
[01:21] <oferet> like this irqpoll or like this -irqpoll
[01:21] <chrismy> darkheart, are you there?
[01:21] <Xappe> tiglionabbit: don't remember that in my head, but there should be a plugin for firefox somewhere among the jre files, and that should be symlinked to the firefox plugins directory
[01:21] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Ooh, USB pci card would be neet! :-)
[01:21] <oferet> HrdwrBob: with or without the "-"
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: heh, you can get USB ISA adapters
[01:22] <chope> dark^ngel: thanx with that dd, it worked
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: no -
[01:22] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Imagine powering 4 PCI USB cards off a single USB Pci card
[01:22] <dark^ngel> chope: np
[01:22] <reiki> darkheart: you alive?
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> imagine recursively recursing
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> Xappe: libjavaplugin.so is in my firefox plugin directory
[01:22] <dech> DVSoftware, on download page its got diff kernels in a combo box i know im 2.6 but whats REGPARM and NOREGPARM ?
[01:22] <tiglionabbit> but its red
[01:23] <Peaker> HrdwrBoB: I need to run the tool again because I'm modifying my network configuration... (Physically reconnecting it)
[01:23] <darkheart> chrismy reiki Yeah, just a moment, though.
[01:23] <oferet> HrdwrBob: its restarting, lets see what it does. What does the IRQPOLL options does?
[01:23] <HrdwrBoB> Peaker: you can edit /etc/networking/interfaces
[01:23] <Zodiac> hey guys
[01:23] <Xappe> tiglionabbit: ok, maybe that should do it then...you, ofcourse, have to restart firefox
[01:23] <Zodiac> Whats up
[01:23] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: tbh I'm not entirely sure :)
[01:23] <DVSoftware> dech, errr.... dunno
[01:23] <chrismy> darkheart, sure.
[01:23] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: though I think I used it on my SMP p3
[01:23] <tiglionabbit> hmm, it links to another firefox directory.  I think i need to fix it
[01:23] <dech> :D
[01:23] <DVSoftware> try both :S
[01:23] <Zodiac> Does anyone have a "non-spyware" acroreader?
[01:24] <oferet> HrdwrBob: SMP ?
[01:24] <Xappe> tiglionabbit: ah...
[01:24] <dech> Heh will try top option first :D
[01:24] <darkheart> chrismy I need to see a bit above that image you posted.
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: two cpis
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> cpus
[01:24] <darkheart> reiki What's up?
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> Zodiac: evince or xpdf
[01:24] <Zodiac> Adobe?
[01:24] <ibthomson> I've got a problem with my chroot. using the 32-bit synaptic, when I try to install a package it lists the dependencies but will not mark them. it fails after that. any help?
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> no
[01:24] <HrdwrBoB> ibthomson: try just using apt-get
[01:24] <surfdue> !xlite
[01:24] <ubotu> No idea, surfdue
[01:24] <Zodiac> Seveas: Do you have adobe reader?
[01:24] <oferet> HrdwrBob: cool, well it got stuck at teh "starting hotplug subsystem" phase. Any ideas ?(anyone)
[01:24] <surfdue> err
[01:24] <reiki> darkheart: I think it was you that responded to me when I was at work today about getting Spamassassin to work with Evolution. Well I have it working and it was quite easy
[01:25] <surfdue> http://www.xten.com/index.php?menu=products&smenu=xlite&ssmenu=download
[01:25] <surfdue> is tehre no deb for this
[01:25] <ibthomson> HrdwrBoB: same difference
[01:25] <dech> btw while im at it how can i kill a frozen ap ? for instance amsn
[01:25] <surfdue> oh does anyone know a ubuntu SIP porgram
[01:25] <dech> app*
[01:25] <HrdwrBoB> ibthomson: paste the error on pastebin
[01:25] <oferet> HrdwrBob: cool, well it got stuck at teh "starting hotplug subsystem" phase. Any ideas ?(anyone)
[01:26] <Seveas> Zodiac, yes
[01:26] <cafuego> duck stock
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: stuck or just took a long time
[01:26] <iiiears> dech - ps -a |more to find it's name then kill -9 processname or pid
[01:26] <DVSoftware> Zodiac, i don't think that adobe reader has spyware
[01:26] <Seveas> DVSoftware, it has
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: worst case, wait a while and hit ctrl-c at that stage
[01:26] <DVSoftware> dech, kill pid
[01:26] <ibthomson> HrdwrBoB: what's the URL for pastebin?
[01:26] <oferet> HrdwrBob: it has been in the state for 2 min already
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:26] <oferet> HrdwrBob: since I said its running
[01:26] <Seveas> DVSoftware, in my deb i removed it ;)
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: try pressing ctrl c
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: odds are it's loading a driver your system doesn't like
[01:26] <Seveas> (making it highly illegal by the way)
[01:26] <oferet> HrdwrBob: no response
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> you need to find out what that is
[01:27] <Zodiac> Seveas: Do you have a deb for where I can grab it it by any chance :)?
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> and blacklist it
[01:27] <DVSoftware> Seveas, didn't know that
[01:27] <DVSoftware> Seveas, what kind of spyware?
[01:27] <cyphase> hey everyone
[01:27] <oferet> HrdwrBob: in that case, my system does not like any drivers :)
[01:27] <Seveas> Zodiac, i just switched off my server (it's in my bedroom currently and I'm going to sleep in 5 minutes)
[01:27] <Zodiac> Whoa
[01:27] <cyphase> anyone here live in the San Francisco bay area?
[01:27] <Seveas> ping me in 10 hours
[01:27] <DVSoftware> dech, to kill amsn, you have to kill "wish"
[01:27] <Zodiac> you host them from your server?
[01:27] <oferet> HrdwrBob: how can I blacklist ?
[01:27] <chrismy> darkheart, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i1374
[01:27] <Zodiac> Can you send me a link so I can grab it tomorrow?
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: add module names to /etc/hotplug,d/blacklist
[01:27] <dech> Thanks iiiears and DV
[01:28] <gabriel_> hi i need to unload fglrx module. what is the string i need to use?
[01:28] <Seveas> Zodiac, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/
[01:28] <Zodiac> I would be greatly appreciative... :)!
[01:28] <ibthomson> HrdwrBob: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1373
[01:28] <Seveas> it'll be online again 10 hors from now
[01:28] <DVSoftware> dech, np
[01:28] <Zodiac> money
[01:28] <Zodiac> thanks dude!
[01:28] <cafuego> Goat sloap'n!
[01:29] <cafuego> although, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl is dead
[01:29] <c0rrupt__> ;\
[01:29] <Zodiac> What is a good html editor?
[01:29] <oferet> HrdwrBob: decided to take out a PCI card, I have the feeling its trouble
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> ibthomson: you are using breezy?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: cool
[01:29] <janice> Hi All. I need some help with a GNOME problem. When I log in I get the message "Could not look up internet address for  . This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts." Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[01:29] <gabriel_> DVSoftware i found that if i unload the fglrx module i can hibernate. maybe works for you too? how do you unload a module?
[01:29] <reiki> Zodiac: Bluefish?
[01:29] <dark^ngel> Zodiac: vi ???
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> my wife uses nvu
[01:30] <DVSoftware> gabriel_, rmmod
[01:30] <DVSoftware> and it unloading fglrx can't help me cos i'm using nvidia ;)
[01:30] <ibthomson> HrdwrBoB: no, hoary 64-bit. this is within dchroot
[01:30] <HrdwrBoB> ibthomson: in any case it looks like your sources are bung
[01:31] <HrdwrBoB> can you check your sources.list?
[01:31] <Peaker> Hmm.. the VESA driver makes X work, but VESA sucks ;-)  The autodetection detects "i815" but that doesn't work. Any idea what I can try to know why X fails to load?
[01:31] <gabriel_> dvsoftware and does it work for you too
[01:31] <gabriel_> ?
[01:31] <cafuego> ibthomson: Did you install a hoary chroot or a breezy one?
[01:31] <ibthomson> cafuego: a hoary chroot
[01:31] <cafuego> cool.
[01:31] <oferet> HrdwrBob: I think I was right. It was the damn USB pci card. Now how would I be able to make it work later with the system. Suggestion ?
[01:31] <cafuego> !info libice-dev
[01:31] <ubotu> libice-dev: (Inter-Client Exchange library development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 208 kB, Installed size: 444 kB
[01:31] <DVSoftware> gabriel_, fglrx is ati driver, but i'm using nvidia
[01:32] <omp342> im having trouble =/
[01:32] <omp342> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[01:32] <omp342> isnt working
[01:32] <iiiears> Peaker - lspci is your friend getting x to work is the one big hurdle to a new user if you get x working you are home free
[01:32] <oferet> HrdwrBob: Also the synch of clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed
[01:32] <cafuego> ibthomson: Check sources.list, run apt-get update.
[01:32] <oferet> HrdwrBob: is that major ?
[01:32] <cafuego> omp342: Give it a pay rise
[01:32] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: because your networking isn't working
[01:32] <jeffm_> hey guys
[01:32] <ibthomson> cafuego: which sources should I have for my chroot?
[01:32] <c0rrupt__> whats the command to extract .tgz
[01:32] <Peaker> iiiears: Thanks I'll try that
[01:32] <HrdwrBoB> it's effectively irrelevant
[01:32] <chrismy> darkheart, how is it going?
[01:32] <jeffm_> im having a problem with my wireless lan
[01:32] <HrdwrBoB> c0rrupt__: tar xzvf
[01:32] <cafuego> ibthomson: I tend to add main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[01:32] <c0rrupt__> isnt that for tar.gz
[01:32] <HrdwrBoB> c0rrupt__: same thing
[01:33] <c0rrupt__> oh
[01:33] <c0rrupt__> okay
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> different extension
[01:33] <cafuego> c0rrupt__: tar.gz == tgz
[01:33] <jeffm_> when i do ifup wlan0 i get 'too few parameters for iface line'
[01:33] <c0rrupt__> ohhh
[01:33] <c0rrupt__> ok
[01:33] <c0rrupt__> thanks
[01:33] <oferet> HrdwrBob: tnx. I logged into my Ubuntu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES !!!!!! after a month of trying !!!
[01:33] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, what kind of problem?
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: :) excellent
[01:33] <chrismy> darkheart, i do not really know which and what are my accurate User and Group names
[01:33] <M1N10N> hello
[01:33] <dark^ngel> oferet: your DNS is not ready by the time ntpdate is requested
[01:33] <vaibhav> hi
[01:33] <jeffm_> dvsoftware: i think my interface file may be messed
[01:33] <dech> hmmmm :(
[01:33] <cafuego> tgz was invented for DOS users; because they can only have ONE dot.
[01:33] <oferet> Bug of the day. A scratched instalations disc!!!!
[01:33] <HrdwrBoB> jeffm_: man interfaces gives you the format for that file
[01:34] <svu> why would I get errors regarding unknown mac_hid keys - trying to bind some keycodes to mouse2 and mouse3 buttons?
[01:34] <M1N10N> I need a bit o' help with dcc
[01:34] <HrdwrBoB> so you can fix it
[01:34] <six2one> has anyone had the problem in breezy col 3 where apt is running in the background but never completes so you cant update?
[01:34] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, try ifconfig wlan0 up
[01:34] <dech> ok new error during oss install :D
[01:34] <dech> Checking for any previously installed sound drivers... Done.
[01:34] <gabriel_> when i do rmmod fglrx it types : ERROR: Module fglrx does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:34] <dech> Couldn't dlopen /tmp/./ui_X.so
[01:34] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: ha! I had a broken CDROM, half installed some apckages and recovered from there :)
[01:34] <dech> libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:34] <dech> OSS/Linux kernel module not available. Cannot continue.
[01:34] <dech> It is likely that some important Linux packages are not
[01:34] <dech> installed which makes installing OSS impossible.
[01:34] <dech> im guessing install libgtk ?
[01:34] <oferet> ok guys how can I fix my connection to my router
[01:34] <oferet> it says that it cannot find a DHCP server while I have it
[01:34] <jeffm_> dvsoftware: ok
[01:34] <oferet> I have  a cheap Blitzz router -> any suggstions?
[01:35] <M1N10N> I can send but not receive. using dlink 524
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: is it connected etc?
[01:35] <gabriel_> dvsoftware any clue why? i have a ati radeon 9700
[01:35] <DVSoftware> dech, install libgtk
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: you can run sudo dhclient on the command line to run it manually
[01:35] <oferet> also if someone can recommend some link that have tutorials on how to setup a server. I need to Run Java Applets, PHP, MySQL, JSP and in particualr Mambo
[01:35] <oferet> for practice
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> M1N10N: what do you mean
[01:35] <ibthomson> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1375 the last 2 lines are all I have in my chroot sources.list
[01:35] <DVSoftware> gabriel_, then you're using vesa drivers
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> oferet: there's trillions all over the interweb, but php4, mysql, apache 1/2 (and I think tomcat) are all packaged
[01:36] <M1N10N> I'm not sure how to get xchat/router set up properly to let me send files
[01:36] <Impulse29> what is that file called that I have to run in ubuntu live so that I see ntfs and fat32 drives?
[01:36] <reiki> oferet: I have Mambo running here... easy easy
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> M1N10N: that's entirely a router thign
[01:36] <Impulse29> someone sent it to me, but I don't know what the link was
[01:36] <M1N10N> I can receive in xchat, and with azu
[01:36] <jeffm_> DVsoftware: ok i did it
[01:36] <oferet> cool. Tnx guys
[01:37] <DVSoftware> did it bring wireless up?
[01:37] <darkheart> chrismy Sorry, I got bogged down with some work. Can you comment those lines out? What happens when you try to run it then?
[01:37] <reiki> oferet: write this down... http://str.blogsome.com/2005/06/30/ubuntu-apache-php-mysql-server/
[01:37] <lz> hi there
[01:37] <jeffm_> no, it just went to another prompt
[01:37] <darkheart> reiki You were talking with someone else (forget who) but I did say something also =) I saw your messages earlier on getting it to work.
[01:37] <oferet> I have more questions. I remember setting up a regular account so for the regualr operations of ubuntu
[01:37] <jeffm_> DVsoftware: no it just went to another prompt
[01:37] <oferet> but I cannot run dhclient with that account
[01:37] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, are you sure
[01:37] <oferet> I need to login into teh admin account
[01:37] <lz> For some reason I can only set my monitor's resolution below 1024 x 768
[01:37] <Impulse29> what do I need to see fat32 and ntfs on ubuntu??
[01:37] <DVSoftware> what ifconfig says
[01:37] <oferet> so login admin or sh admin should've worked no ?
[01:37] <lz> i want it to be 1600+
[01:38] <cafuego> !fat32
[01:38] <ubotu> I guess fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[01:38] <gabriel> so dvsoftware how should i unload vesa module?
[01:38] <reiki> darkheart: do you think there's general interest in this or should I just sit here, fat, dumb, and happy that I have it working? :)
[01:38] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, pastebin "ifconfig" output
[01:38] <chrismy> darkheart, Syntax error on line 101 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[01:38] <chrismy> Invalid command 'Christopher', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[01:38] <jeffm_> dvsoftware: yeah, i did ifconfig wlan0 up, then it went to another prompt, then i did ifconfig wlan0 and it gave info
[01:38] <dech> DVSoftware, im gonna try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&page=1&pp=10&highlight=audigy
[01:38] <M1N10N> oh I had another question unrelated to irc.
[01:38] <cafuego> ibthomson: That is odd.
[01:38] <lz> I go to System | Pref | Screen Resolution | For some reason I can only set my monitor's resolution below 1024 x 768
[01:39] <darkheart> reiki I think if you got something working, you should make note of it =) bound to be someone else that wants to have the same set up.
[01:39] <cafuego> ibthomson: Is 'apt-get update' somehow failing?
[01:39] <hmrocha> hi
[01:39] <Karhuton> Lynden, you don't have higher resolutions defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:39] <hmrocha> i don't know why my games don't have sound!
[01:39] <darkheart> chrismy Comment those lines out (put # in front of them)
[01:39] <jeffm_> DVsoftware: ok, but im not on the computer im doing this on, because no internet. im gonna type it out
[01:39] <M1N10N> I have an 80GB WD that was ntfs. I recently deleted/recreated the entire partition and formatted it in ext3
[01:39] <ibthomson> cafuego: nope, that's working fine
[01:39] <gabriel> DVSoftware how do i unload vesa module?
[01:40] <M1N10N> but its only giving my 69.4 GB as opposed to the 74 and change I used to get
[01:40] <DVSoftware> gabriel, you have to kill x server
[01:40] <cafuego> ibthomson: What does 'apt-cache show libice-dev' say?
[01:40] <chrismy> darkheart, ermm how? example?
[01:40] <DVSoftware> and then unload vesafb
[01:40] <M1N10N> is there more overhead with ext3?
[01:40] <DVSoftware> i guess
[01:40] <Lynden> I have inside xorg.conf: Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:40] <jabra> anyone know if qt4 is in breezy yet?
[01:40] <omp342> ubuntu > fedora :)
[01:40] <reiki> M1N10N: check your BIOS on bootup and see if bios is seeing the whole drive
[01:40] <Spudchat> speakin of hdds do i have to defrag it or is it done automagically?
[01:40] <chrismy> darkheart, i copied that from when i restart Apache2
[01:40] <gabriel> dvsoftware well that is not the answer to hibernation i guess
[01:40] <cafuego> !info libqt breezy
[01:40] <ibthomson> cafuego: plenty of information on that package, no errors
[01:40] <darkheart> chrismy Those two lines you have that start with christopher, put a # at the beginning of them.
[01:41] <DVSoftware> gabriel, only that way you can unload vesa
[01:41] <Lynden> i chagned my xorg.conf a little eralier.... do i need to do anything to let x know the new config?
[01:41] <oferet> guys how do I login, into the admin account
[01:41] <Karhuton> Lynden, restart it?
[01:41] <M1N10N> ok, though I'm sure it does. I had it mounted before with the ntfs partition still intact and it showed fullsize.
[01:41] <chrismy> darkheart, oh...i try with the # preceeding them
[01:41] <Dime> hey guys how do i add terminal and gdesklets to my start-up?
[01:41] <M1N10N> can't boot atm but I'll check it out, thanks
[01:41] <darkheart> chrismy Yes, what happens when you try with the preceeding #?
[01:42] <cafuego> ibthomson: Install 'libice-dev' by hand to figure out which actual apckage is broken
[01:42] <snorks> is there a search feature for apt-get? Like "apt-get --search quake3" would show me apt-get'able stuff with quake3?
[01:42] <Lynden> karhuton: for some reason it doesn't show 1280 x 1024 even after i restarted it... do you guys have a good xorg.conf sample file?
[01:42] <reiki> M1N10N: I just had a similar experience installing a new 160GB drive... this machine is older and bios didn't see the drive right
[01:42] <LinuxJones> Dime, system >> Preferences >> Sessions >> Startup programs
[01:42] <gabriel> dvsoftware but isn't x server necessary for linux to stay alive? i mean can i unload xserver to hibernate and then load it again?
[01:42] <janice> unable to 'gethostbyname' any ideas on how to fix?
[01:42] <snorks> Lynden, during ubuntu install where yo uget asked for resolution, do you hit enter at preferred reso, or do you mark it with space?
[01:42] <M1N10N> were you able to get it to see the complete drive?
[01:42] <chrismy> darkheart, cool! no comments....means it worked?
[01:42] <LinuxJones> snorks, apt-cache search <packagename>
[01:43] <darkheart> chrismy Yes, it means that the config file loaded correctly. Did you try starting apache?
[01:43] <surfdue> how do i get these Sound Drivers snd_via82xx, snd_usb_audio, snd_intel8x0 (OSS emulation)
[01:43] <reiki> M1N10N:  yes. I had to go to my motherboard manufacturer's site and download a bios update and flash the bios :)
[01:43] <snorks> LinuxJones, now what? didnt give me anything
[01:43] <M1N10N> agh
[01:43] <Lynden> i hit enter snorks :(
[01:43] <snorks> LinuxJones, dont get me wrong, thanks for trying to help :)
[01:43] <LinuxJones> snorks, there are no packages with the name you put in
[01:43] <chrismy> darkheart, hmm start apache? how do you mean?
[01:43] <snorks> Lynden, i just did an install, first time i hit enter, and got 1024x768
[01:43] <M1N10N> I've alrday got 20 gigs of crap on it so I guess I"ll live with it for now :P
[01:44] <chrismy> darkheart, i restarted it yes is that what you meant?
[01:44] <ibthomson> cafuego: after single apt-gets for dependencies I get down to this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[01:44] <snorks> Lynden, then i marked 1280x1024 during next install, and now i have 1280x1024
[01:44] <M1N10N> already*
[01:44] <snorks> Lynden, with space
[01:44] <chrismy> darkheart, sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[01:44] <Lynden> heheh you are suggesting me to reinstall it?
[01:44] <hmrocha> today i change some pc's in my college from mandrake to ubuntu
[01:44] <snorks> LinuxJones, ok:)
[01:44] <Lynden> takes a while :/
[01:44] <DVSoftware> somebody explain gabriel what is x server please
[01:44] <snorks> Lynden, takes about 20 mins here
[01:44] <hmrocha> is it possible to remove the "Administration" submenu from the "System" menu ?
[01:44] <surfdue> how do i get these Sound Drivers snd_via82xx, snd_usb_audio, snd_intel8x0 (OSS emulation)
[01:45] <snorks> Lynden, anyway, find out vert and horiz refresh rate, and editing xorg.conf should be easy
[01:45] <stizoner> should i use updates for stuff i allready have when they come up in backport repositorys?
[01:45] <snorks> Lynden, perhaps there some fancy gui for editing xorg.conf aswell
[01:45] <surfdue> anyone???
[01:45] <Peaker> iiiears: from lspci all I know is that it is an Intel Mobile Display adapter rev 03, but google'ing doesn't seem to find anything about that not working with ubunutu
[01:45] <darkheart> chrismy Okay, so it's running? When you do 'ps ax|grep apache' something shows up?
[01:45] <reiki> stizoner: I wouldn't. but that's just me
[01:46] <Ice9> I followed the instructions on the link that comes up with !ati, but I still can't get 3d support working
[01:46] <muffin_> wine does not support xp.... ?!?!?
[01:46] <GoClick> Which has better SAMBA config GUI tools, GNOME or KDE?
[01:46] <Lynden> ok i edited my xorg.conf at the wrong section
[01:46] <snorks> Ok, under the unofficial cedega for amd64 walkthrough on some wiki, it tells you to " Download transgaming*.deb into your home directory.". What file is that? Is that p2p?
[01:46] <Lynden> let me try restarting it now :D
[01:46] <hmrocha> GoClick, i guess none of them has one
[01:46] <DVSoftware> muffin_, what do yo mean with xp?
[01:46] <Lynden> thanks for your help snorksss
[01:46] <snorks> good luck Lynden
[01:47] <snorks> Ice9, i just got it to work
[01:47] <muffin_> DVSoftware, software that only runs in windows xp
[01:47] <snorks> !ati
[01:47] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:47] <zukalk> hey all
[01:47] <requiem_> hello
[01:47] <GoClick> hmrocha what do you mean?
[01:47] <Ice9> snorks, by following that site?
[01:47] <chrismy> darkheart, i am a noob. i do not know i have to do the 'ps ax|grep apache'. now my website failed to load(http://clch.zapto.org) also means Apache is not running
[01:47] <requiem_> I have a windows partition
[01:47] <hmrocha> GoClick, that's a distribution "problem"
[01:47] <hmrocha> GoClick, some distros have programs to configure that kind of software
[01:47] <marcin> hi all
[01:47] <miguel> hi guys, I need some help
[01:48] <DVSoftware> muffin_, just change windows version in config
[01:48] <DVSoftware> /home/you/.wine/config
[01:48] <chrismy> darkheart, ok this is the result 11532 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep apache
[01:48] <stizoner> Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[01:48] <miguel> I am trying to install teTeX
[01:48] <snorks> Ice9, yeah. Do: "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" then "echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules" then "sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and I rebooted and it worked
[01:48] <miguel> but I am stuck
[01:48] <marcin> does anyone here knows if are there plans to create Skype for gnome?
[01:48] <no_dammagE> hey, now I'm here with sound problems: neither alsa (noatun) nor oss (cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp) work ...
[01:48] <GoClick> Well there are going to be specific tools which some would say are the best for configuring SAMBA and I'm looking for personal opinions here and since most of the tools I've seen aren't for both what would you rather configure a server with?
[01:48] <requiem_> but I haven't got ubuntu to auto config that partition, what module should I look for to mount in fat32 ?
[01:48] <DVSoftware> chrismy, apache is not started
[01:48] <omp342> wow
[01:48] <requiem_> I tried lsmod | grep -i fat
[01:48] <requiem_> but nothing
[01:48] <chrismy> DVSoftware, hmmm
[01:48] <omp342> its so easy to install wine with ubuntu
[01:48] <snorks> Ice9, this is the easiest ATI configin ive EVER done. I spent 1 week getting it to work (on x86 gentoo install) before
[01:49] <requiem_> hmrocha, sup
[01:49] <reiki> chrismy: ty sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[01:49] <no_dammagE> the sound card is either ensoniq ES 1370 or 1371, i don't remember it correctly ...
[01:49] <hmrocha> requiem_, hello :)
[01:49] <reiki> s/try/ty
[01:49] <requiem_> sup dude ?
[01:49] <hmrocha> requiem_, i'm fine, but i'm having some trouble with sound in ubuntu
[01:49] <chrismy> it says NOT RUNNING
[01:49] <requiem_> sabes se  preciso usar outro kernel para ter o fat32 l ?
[01:49] <miguel> can someone help me out
[01:49] <stizoner> lol
[01:49] <oferet> guys: does Ubuntu during the installations create a password for root or admin account ?
[01:49] <cafuego> !es
[01:49] <miguel> ?
[01:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:50] <requiem_> hmrocha, :\
[01:50] <requiem_> damn
[01:50] <oferet> which account is it ? root or admin
[01:50] <darkheart> chrismy Try doing start not restart
[01:50] <hmrocha> requiem_, just use mount -t vfat
[01:50] <Impulse29> how can I go to a root user?
[01:50] <reiki> chrismy:  ok try sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[01:50] <cafuego> requiem_: Downlaod and run the script ubotu told you about
[01:50] <chrismy> yes!
[01:50] <Impulse29> I'm getting access denied
[01:50] <cafuego> requiem_: That will make an entry in /etc/fstab for you.
[01:50] <chrismy> it says STARTING WEB SERVER
[01:50] <chrismy> :D
[01:50] <chrismy> let me try my site
[01:50] <reiki> there ya go
[01:50] <reiki> :)
[01:50] <DVSoftware> Impulse29, sudo -i
[01:50] <snorks> Ice9, good luckl
[01:50] <jeffm_> DVSoftware: ok, this is my pastebin of ifconfig wlan0: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1376
[01:50] <LinuxJones> GoClick, there are hundreds of samba tutorials around have you checked out the one on the wiki page ?
[01:50] <snorks> Ice9, hope you get it to work. btw, i have radeon 9800
[01:50] <requiem_> cafuego, already did that
[01:50] <Ice9> thanks snorks
[01:51] <requiem_> hhmm
[01:51] <requiem_> that's the module
[01:51] <Ice9> I've been trying everything for the past couple days, i've a 9250
[01:51] <reiki> chrismy: I think it's put a default site in apache_default folder withing /var/www
[01:51] <chrismy> reiki, darkheart erm......not working
[01:51] <cafuego> requiem_: You don't _need_ modules.
[01:51] <stizoner> ive got a radeon 9500, works fine here without doing anything
[01:51] <darkheart> chrismy What happens?
[01:51] <cafuego> requiem_: If the partition exists, the script will detect and mount it.
[01:51] <cafuego> requiem_: If it does NOT exist, you're asking the wrong question.
[01:51] <chrismy> darkheart, my site is failed. http://clch.zapto.org
[01:52] <reiki> chrismy: try http://localhost/apache2-default
[01:52] <surfdue> Warning: /dev/dsp appears to be a valid audio device, but I cannot
[01:52] <surfdue>          open it.  Please ensure that no other applications are
[01:52] <surfdue>          using the audio device (perhaps by trying ``lsof /dev/dsp'').
[01:52] <chrismy> darkheart, means apache2 is not functioning right?
[01:52] <surfdue> is there a way i can get aroung this
[01:52] <requiem_> thanks you guys
[01:52] <surfdue> and use skype and xlite
[01:52] <Impulse29> DVSoftware, thank you:)
[01:52] <Misos> Where is the message "The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;....." stored?
[01:52] <requiem_> cafuego, it isn't autoloading
[01:52] <chrismy> reiki, it says connection refused
[01:52] <requiem_> I might put it in /etc/modules
[01:52] <reiki> chrismy: hold a sec... lemme try mine here...
[01:53] <muffin_> !dcom98.exe
[01:53] <ubotu> I don't know, muffin_
[01:53] <Zodiac> Guys, I can't get sound to work for Frozen Bubble
[01:53] <Zodiac> What is the deal?
[01:53] <Misos> Does anyone know?
[01:53] <mveers> Misos: I think /etc/motd
[01:53] <mcphail> surfdue: fuser /dev/dsp
[01:53] <Misos> that's it, ty
[01:53] <reiki> chrismy: mine worked just now using that URL
[01:53] <mveers> np
[01:53] <Impulse29> if I'm in VMware workstation, and I specify that my second hard drive in my comptuer is the primary hard drive for the workstation, and then run ubuntu on a freeBSD base, it cannot detect my first primary hard drive right?
[01:53] <surfdue> /dev/dsp:             8594
[01:54] <befactory> i need put a rural Tv station on internet is posible whit ubuntu
[01:54] <mcphail> surfdue: kill 9 8594
[01:54] <stizoner> wow get tons of questions, should devide #ubuntu up into seperate channels for types of questions, maybe even a channel just to bs
[01:54] <mcphail> -9
[01:54] <darkheart> chrismy Do you have a firewall or router?
[01:54] <surfdue> no
[01:54] <dech> OK :D rebooting after following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&page=1&pp=10&highlight=audigy wish me luck :D
[01:54] <Zodiac> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:54] <surfdue> i dont want 2 kill it
[01:54] <surfdue> i want 2 run BOTH
[01:54] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, it means that your wireless connection is up
[01:54] <chrismy> reiki, coz that is your local machine
[01:54] <reiki> chrismy: I just have a default apache2 install here. Didn't touch conf files or anything
[01:54] <LinuxJones> befactory, for how many users ?
[01:54] <snorks> Does anyone here have cedega working on a ubuntu amd64 install?
[01:55] <befactory> many many
[01:55] <reiki> chrismy: yes I know it's my local machine... :) I was just checking to see if what I was telling was working here
[01:55] <no_dammagE> funny thing: alsamixer detected my soundcard, but I have no sound :/
[01:55] <chrismy> darkheart, yes router but was successful. ok now i make the apache2.conf to default and see if it works. hold on
[01:55] <jeffm_> dvsoftware: ok, no how do i connect to a network?
[01:55] <befactory> 5000 user
[01:55] <miguel> can some1 help me out with a PATH related problem?
[01:55] <surfdue> how do i get dmix
[01:55] <Karhuton> Impulse29, Propably
[01:55] <Ice9> anybody else have suggestions as to why I can't get 3d support with my radeon card?
[01:55] <DVSoftware> snorks, i have cedega on 64bit
[01:56] <Karhuton> Impulse29, Vmware doesn't touch devices you haven't assigned for it
[01:56] <snorks> surfdue, new alsa drivers does it automaticly. but you would need alsa compiled as modules
[01:56] <surfdue> how
[01:56] <surfdue> can u help
[01:56] <surfdue> i installed alsa via deb pakcages
[01:56] <snorks> DVSoftware, i found this walkthrough, and it tells me to "Download transgaming*.deb into your home directory." <- what file is that? Do I really need it?
[01:56] <Zodiac> Frozen bubble no sound, anyone have any ideas?
[01:56] <Karhuton> Impulse29, the list of devices it has are listed in the properties page, and on the right of the screen when you have the virtual machine tab open
[01:56] <Impulse29> kk, that's what I thought:) just because I'm copying an image from one drive to another (must be done through linux), and the path says hda, which I assume that vmware made my second drive...
[01:56] <snorks> surfdue, tho i cant really help you since i did this under gentoo and not ubuntu
[01:56] <Karhuton> Impulse29, and most of the devices the _guest_ os sees are emulated
[01:57] <chrismy> darkheart, reiki yes http://clch.zapto.org is working now..........this is without the User and Group(default)
[01:57] <surfdue> !alsa
[01:57] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:57] <DVSoftware> snorks, you don't need it
[01:57] <Impulse29> thanks Karhuton, you've been really helpful
[01:57] <Karhuton> Impulse29, for example you'll be using a 'vmware' xserver and sound driver. Not ATI's display card or Creative's Audigy
[01:57] <darkheart> chrismy Yes =) I see it came up
[01:57] <snorks> DVSoftware, ok. would you like to help me tomorrow when i have cedega4-4-1?
[01:57] <LinuxJones> befactory, you can setup a streaming server using this >> http://www.fluendo.com/    The server software is available in the Ubuntu repos and works quite well. Thery even offer technical support and additional features :)
[01:57] <befactory> yes?
[01:58] <DVSoftware> i will not be available next week
[01:58] <DVSoftware> starting tomorrow
[01:58] <darkheart> chrismy So you are okay then?
[01:58] <snorks> DVSoftware, I have to turn to mean means to get cedega :/ I live in Norway and don't possess a legal VISA to get an account on transgaming.org :/ I have money for it and I would gladly pay, but I can't. Is there any way you want to send it to me instead of me having to download it as torrent? :))
[01:58] <befactory> Linux Jones Fluendo is GPL?>
[01:58] <dech> Woohooo
[01:58] <chrismy> darkheart, yup so how in the world i setup the PHP and Apache2?
[01:58] <chrismy> what User and Group name they want?
[01:59] <snorks> DVSoftware, err. my VISA is legal, but its VISA electron which can't be used for shopping online
[01:59] <surfdue> in gstreamer-properties when i change to also
[01:59] <surfdue> i test
[01:59] <surfdue> it says failed to make pipeline for alsa
[01:59] <darkheart> chrismy I can help you with that later if no one else does. I'm getting ready to leave for home now.
[01:59] <chrismy> darkheart, no no no not ok. that is the default settings. means PHPi s not set
[01:59] <LinuxJones> befactory, yeah it's working with/contributing to the gstreamer project
[01:59] <jeffm_> DVSoftware: my kwifi manager is saying that there is full signal strength, how do i connect to the network/
[01:59] <jeffm_> ?
[01:59] <darkheart> chrismy Ahh..I see...Well, I have to leave now. If you want I can help you when I get home...about 1 hour.
[01:59] <chrismy> darkheart, ok.....i don;t think there is anyone to help :P
[01:59] <dech> DVSoftware, thanks man, got it working it hink :) sound appears and i can change volume, copying over a song from samba share to listen to to double check
[01:59] <darkheart> chrismy If not, I will help you later if you are on.
[01:59] <chrismy> darkheart, sure i WILL wait
[01:59] <DVSoftware> errrmmm... snorks what is problem with torrent?
[01:59] <darkheart> chrismy Okay, see you later then.
[02:00] <chrismy> darkheart, for my own sake i will
[02:00] <chrismy> ok
[02:00] <chrismy> byebye
[02:00] <LinuxJones> befactory, and yes it's GPL but they have some additions stuff like gui admin tools and tech support that you have to pay for.
[02:00] <chrismy> thankssssssssssssss
[02:00] <surfdue> anyone?
[02:00] <darkheart> Freedom!!!!
[02:00] <snorks> DVSoftware, its slow :/ 0.07KB/s-slow..
[02:00] <snorks> !cedega amd64
[02:00] <ubotu> snorks: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:00] <surfdue> in gstreamer-properties when i change to alsa i hit test, and it says failed to construct pipeline
[02:00] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, what kind of network?
[02:00] <DVSoftware> snorks, it was fast when i downloaded it
[02:00] <Ice9> how do I use a .run file?
[02:01] <snorks> DVSoftware, ok.
[02:01] <jeffm_> DVSoftware: a wireless network, im trying to steal internet connection
[02:01] <snorks> DVSoftware, Did you use a walkthrough? Could you point me to it?
[02:01] <dech> snorks are the torrent ports forwarder if you have a router ? or unblocked if you have a firewall
[02:01] <DVSoftware> snorks, wait a couple of minutes, and i will give you direct link
[02:01] <IcemanV9> Ice9: ./<program>.run
[02:01] <snorks> DVSoftware, you rule more than anything has ever ruled before
[02:01] <snorks> dech, I'm not sure, m8
[02:01] <befactory> thankssssssssssssss
[02:01] <jeffm_> lol he sure does
[02:02] <snorks> dech, I've gotten fast enough torrents before under windows
[02:02] <snorks> dech, so I guess they're forwarded (no firewall here)
[02:02] <miguel> anybody could help me w/ a teTeX installation question?
[02:03] <dech> snorks, ok just thought id check :) usually though worst case scenarios non port forwards will only slow to 5kbs or so
[02:03] <dech> not much less
[02:03] <usun_> hi all,
[02:03] <dech> Hi :)
[02:03] <help> how do i install /home/usun/Desktop/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[02:03] <help> ?
[02:03] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, to steal internet connection???
[02:03] <DVSoftware> well, is it pppoe or vpn?
[02:03] <snorks> dech, I think a guy is leeching torrents on my network... and he has probably not capped upload rate. I get 600 kbit/s where I should normally get 2mbit
[02:03] <help> how do i install a .bin file
[02:04] <snorks> bukaka, mount it?
[02:04] <jeffm_> DVSoftware: yeah, i dont know if its pppoe or vpn
[02:04] <bukaka> has anyone worked with ffmpeg2theora?
[02:04] <DVSoftware> just run it
[02:04] <bukaka> snorks, how?
[02:04] <requiem_> hmrocha, what's up with your sound ?
[02:04] <dech> snorks, wow i wish i had your speeds, im only on 1.5mbit dsl
[02:04] <snorks> bukaka, .bin sounds like a image
[02:04] <bukaka> what is the command
[02:04] <hmrocha> requiem_, sound is working fine, but i don't have sound in games
[02:04] <LinuxJones> bukaka, sh file.bin
[02:04] <snorks> dech, 2000/400 here :) and not pppoe, and no limits :) its a super isp
[02:04] <hmrocha> requiem_, frozen bubble for example, doesn't have sound
[02:04] <requiem_> hmrocha, do you have 2 sound drivers ?
[02:05] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, probably pppoe
[02:05] <hmrocha> requiem_, i have no idea
[02:05] <requiem_> uuhh
[02:05] <DVSoftware> you have to rename connection to eth1 for example
[02:05] <snorks> bukaka, i assume you use ubuntu, have you tried rightclicking that file and mount it?
[02:05] <DVSoftware> to use it with pppoe
[02:05] <requiem_> hmrocha, do you have an onboard soundcard and a pci soundcard ?
[02:05] <DVSoftware> hint: ifrename
[02:05] <bukaka> snorks, ohh... no i never have
[02:05] <bukaka> !
[02:05] <ubotu> bukaka: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:05] <dech> snorks, sounds like it, i am in australia and my isp is currently 1.5mbit/256kbit no caps pppoe i think
[02:05] <requiem_> if that's so, that's maybe the confusion
[02:05] <snorks> bukaka, I have no idea if it works, but .bin sounds like an image of something. I started using ubuntu today (and i love it)
[02:05] <DVSoftware> and then iwconfig eth1 essid NETWORK NAME
[02:05] <bukaka> snorks, i use command line
[02:05] <hmrocha> requiem_, oh sound cards, no, i just have an onboard one
[02:06] <snorks> bukaka, whats the file called?
[02:06] <requiem_> are you on alsa ?
[02:06] <miguel> can someone tell me how do i find out my platform directory?
[02:06] <miguel> thx
[02:06] <bukaka> snorks, that doesnt work
[02:06] <bukaka> its not windows
[02:06] <hmrocha> requiem_, in volume control i have two devices
[02:06] <hmrocha> requiem_, OSS and Alsa
[02:06] <DVSoftware> bukaka, just type ./ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[02:06] <jeffm_> DVSoftware: ok, so to connect to the wireless network, i have to rename my wlan0 eth1? what if i already have eth1?
[02:06] <deepjohn> hi
[02:07] <LinuxJones> bukaka, change to your home dorectory and type >>   sh ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[02:07] <snorks> bukaka, well i guess there's daemon tools for linux.
[02:07] <DVSoftware> if not try sh ffmpeg....etc....bin
[02:07] <requiem_> hmrocha, maybe one of them is being overlaped ?
[02:07] <snorks> bukaka, but as i said, never used .bin files before in ubuntu (not in gentoo either i think)
[02:07] <sambagirl> anyone using NVU?
[02:07] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, rename it to eth<anything>
[02:08] <hmrocha> requiem_, maybe, but i don't know how to fix this
[02:08] <DVSoftware> just because pppd won't work with wlan interface name
[02:08] <LinuxJones> sambagirl, there is a howto on the wiki how to install it
[02:08] <requiem_> hmrocha, do you need oss ?
[02:08] <omp342> hey i installed wine from apt-get
[02:08] <hmrocha> requiem_, i guess not
[02:08] <omp342> how do i know what directory its in?
[02:08] <sambagirl> i am already using it linuxjones but thank you.
[02:09] <popey> omp342: why do you want to know?
[02:09] <muffin_> whats a good place for getting more radio stations for rhythmbox?
[02:09] <sambagirl> i just wanted to comment on what a fabulous applictaion it is, it's better than dreamweaver sorta ;)
[02:09] <popey> omp342: your wine files generally live under .wine
[02:09] <LinuxJones> omp342, whereis wine
[02:09] <jeffm_> DVSoftware: ok, how do i rename? right now its wlan0...
[02:09] <bukaka> DVSoftware, but where do i put the file?
[02:09] <omp342> k
[02:09] <bukaka> in home?
[02:09] <sambagirl> did you program NVU linux.jones?
[02:09] <requiem_> hmrocha, you use beep right ?
[02:10] <DVSoftware> bukaka, just run it god damnit
[02:10] <hmrocha> requiem_, beep media player? of course not! i use muine
[02:10] <iiiears> muffin "streamtuner"
[02:10] <DVSoftware> its self extracting arhive
[02:10] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, man ifrename
[02:10] <sambagirl> jammin is the best program for internet radio
[02:10] <miguel> anybody could help me with a command line question?
[02:10] <LinuxJones> sambagirl, no sorry, but there probably is a nvu irc channel
[02:10] <delltony> bukaka, if its a bin file you should be able to type sudo ./<whateverbin> being that its a binary file and not a .bin file as a iso image
[02:10] <requiem_> hmrocha, does it has a certain thing to choose the device ?
[02:10] <dech> DVSoftware my sound is working :P
[02:10] <sambagirl> ravendell.com or something like that
[02:10] <dech> Thanks man
[02:10] <snorks> DVSoftware, did you use a walkthrough on the web to get cedega to work?
[02:10] <hmrocha> requiem_, muine just plays fine
[02:10] <requiem_> uhh
[02:11] <requiem_> I know
[02:11] <Misos> What's the best way to kill X11 when it's running?
[02:11] <muffin_> what shall i do in wime:  err:setupapi:SetupDefaultQueueCallbackA delete error 2 (and 3)
[02:11] <DVSoftware> snorks, yes
[02:11] <hmrocha> requiem_, i have sound in all gnome applications
[02:11] <requiem_> but muine problably has alsa on it, and frozen bubble has oss
[02:11] <omp342> i think soemthing went wrong =/
[02:11] <requiem_> hmrocha, that to
[02:11] <omp342> wine SteamInstall_CS.exe    doesnt work
[02:11] <Juhaz> Misos, ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:11] <bukaka> DVSoftware, i get this error - ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin: ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin: cannot execute binary file
[02:11] <Misos> When I did that it restarted itself
[02:11] <jeffm_> DVsoftware: it says Warning: Interface name is 'eth0' at line 2, can't be mapped reliably
[02:11] <LinuxJones> Misos, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    to make it permenantly off
[02:12] <derek> is there a way to readily debug usb
[02:12] <Juhaz> no, gdm restarted it after it died
[02:12] <hmrocha> requiem_, how can i change frozen-bubble to use alsa?
[02:12] <Misos> I don't want it off perm
[02:12] <derek> i have hotplug installed, but printer seems to not exist
[02:12] <DVSoftware> jeffm_, dunno really
[02:12] <snorks> DVSoftware, do you remember the url? And btw, the file, did you forget it or should I do other things? :-) I don't mean to nag
[02:12] <Ice9> I downloaded this from ati, ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run, but I can't seem to execute it
[02:12] <omp342> argh wine is so hard to install =/
[02:12] <Misos> meh
[02:12] <miguel> could someone tell me what thiss is?  PATH=/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu:$PATH; export PATH
[02:12] <LinuxJones> Misos, you jsut want terminal access ?
[02:12] <DVSoftware> snorks, i don't remember it, i always google for it
[02:12] <requiem_> hmrocha, I dunno, but you could give sound to oss
[02:12] <omp342> i wrote
[02:12] <omp342> apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev
[02:12] <omp342> to get wine
[02:12] <requiem_> did you try it ?
[02:13] <omp342> is that correct?
[02:13] <dech> Ok, so now another big leap from windows to a fast becoming favourite among my preferences, ubuntu, anybody know of an msn client ?kopete is useless and keeps telling me my password is wrong, though i know my own pass :P
[02:13] <hmrocha> requiem_, oss has sound enabled
[02:13] <Misos> See, I have it set so gdm doesn't load on boot - but when I need to go into gdm, I don't want to have to reboot to exit
[02:13] <bukaka> DVSoftware, what does it mean when i get this error ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin: ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin: cannot execute binary file
[02:13] <derek>  /proc/bus/usb exists but has no devices
[02:13] <snorks> DVSoftware, do you remember the words you used? is it "http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Cedega_on_AMD64"?
[02:13] <snorks> dech, use gaim
[02:13] <DVSoftware> it's that
[02:13] <hmrocha> requiem_, when i change the sound volume, i always do it to the OSS
[02:13] <derek>  /var/log/messages when plugging in device doesn't give anything helpful
[02:13] <snorks> DVSoftware, ok
[02:13] <DVSoftware> bukaka
[02:13] <requiem_> hhmmm
[02:13] <hmrocha> requiem_, alsa has volume too
[02:13] <requiem_> odd
[02:13] <requiem_> wait
[02:13] <apjone> hey peps
[02:13] <snorks> DVSoftware, you just skipped the transgaming* .deb part?
[02:13] <Ice9> I downloaded this from ati, ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run, but I can't seem to execute it
[02:13] <DVSoftware> did you tried sh binfile.bin
[02:14] <DVSoftware> snorks, yes
[02:14] <apjone> ?
[02:14] <snorks> DVSoftware, thanks man
[02:14] <bukaka> DVSoftware, yes this is my command
[02:14] <apjone> hi can any one see me, damn router
[02:14] <miguel> yes
[02:14] <DVSoftware> bukaka
[02:14] <apjone> nice one
[02:14] <bukaka> DVSoftware, sh /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[02:14] <DVSoftware> open that file with some text editor
[02:14] <miguel> apjone, can you help me out?
[02:15] <apjone> sure
[02:15] <bukaka> DvSOftware, sh ffmpeg2theora-1.1.linux.bin
[02:15] <bukaka> yes thats what i did
[02:15] <snorks> dech, GAIM is as easy to use as MSN messenger, but faster, less shitty buttons. Negative parts are: no fast way to fix nick, slower filetransfers than with msn messenger
[02:15] <DVSoftware> and pastebin first few lines
[02:15] <miguel> i am trying to install teTeX
[02:15] <apjone> ye
[02:15] <requiem_> hmrocha, this maybe gives you a few hints
[02:15] <requiem_> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
[02:15] <Ice9> I downloaded this from ati, ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run, but I can't seem to execute it
[02:15] <miguel> and at some point the instructions aks me to:Use something like the following, but replace i686-pc-linux-gnu by your
[02:15] <miguel> actual platform directory:
[02:15] <miguel> PATH=/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu:$PATH; export PATH
[02:15] <requiem_> brb
[02:15] <hmrocha> requiem_, thanks, i'll read it
[02:15] <snorks> Does xmms work under amd64_
[02:15] <bukaka> DVSoftware, it doesn't open
[02:15] <Mens> Hello can someone recomend me a good FTP client with GUI? Becouse that build in ftp in konsole is crap
[02:16] <apjone> wow , calm down , sorry thats im just a noob
[02:16] <bukaka> DVSoftware, it doesnt open in text editor
[02:16] <LinuxJones> Mens, gftp
[02:16] <castingpearls> Mens: gftp
[02:16] <miguel> sorry
[02:16] <snorks> !xmms amd64
[02:16] <ubotu> snorks: I don't know
[02:16] <dech> snorks, thanks will get it now :)
[02:16] <miguel> thx anyway
[02:16] <castingpearls> !gftp
[02:16] <ubotu> castingpearls: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:16] <LinuxJones> Mens, you can also use nautilus (the gnome file manager)
[02:16] <bimberi> snorks: you can check on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <castingpearls> !alsa
[02:17] <ubotu> alsa is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[02:17] <stizoner> operation not permited, setlenghts fails.....   is what i get when i try to open a torrent to seed with azurues
[02:17] <miguel> can anybody who is familiar with installing software from the terminal help me, plz?
[02:17] <Mens> ok thx im checking out gftp
[02:17] <befactory> Linux Jones
[02:18] <befactory> i install the flumotion
[02:18] <bukaka> anyone know how to install this?
[02:18] <bukaka> ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[02:18] <Ice9> when I do ./ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run , I get a "command not found"
[02:18] <befactory> and no pass to the admin interface
[02:19] <LinuxJones> befactory, you probably have to run the admin too using sudo
[02:19] <LinuxJones> err tool
[02:19] <befactory> ohhh thax
[02:19] <hmrocha> requiem_, running frozen-bubble from the command line i get this...
[02:19] <hmrocha> requiem_, Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device).
[02:20] <Ice9> anybody have any ideas?
[02:20] <Karhuton> Ice9, do: sh ati.....run
[02:20] <hmrocha> requiem_, i don't know why
[02:20] <befactory> ERROR: .pem file /etc/flumotion/default.pem does not exist
[02:20] <Karhuton> Ice9, or "chmod +x ati...run"
[02:20] <befactory> what?
[02:21] <requiem_> hmrocha, man frozen-bubble
[02:21] <requiem_> hmrocha, is there a option to use a specific sound driver ?
[02:22] <befactory> linux jones this error is ERROR: .pem file /etc/flumotion/default.pem does not exist
[02:22] <Ice9> YES! thanks so much Karhuton!
[02:22] <hmrocha> requiem_, nop
[02:22] <LinuxJones> befactory, search google there is a fix for that, I have see that error before try googling that error + ubuntu
[02:22] <Karhuton> Ice9, if you manage to install it, please tell me
[02:22] <Ice9> its installing now
[02:22] <befactory> thax
[02:23] <speel> !skype
[02:23] <ubotu> well, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[02:23] <Karhuton> Ice9, pm me when you get it up and running
[02:23] <Noki> hi all
[02:24] <requiem_> hmrocha, did you tried alsamixer ?
[02:24] <requiem_> is your master speaker off ?
[02:25] <stizoner> Error: operation not permitted, setLenghts fails /mnt/windows/bittorrent/temp/XXX.avi     .....   in azurues when i try to seed a torrent ive allready downloaded
[02:25] <th4_bandit> anyone knoe the default root password for ubuntu linux?
[02:25] <th4_bandit> it never asked me to set one
[02:26] <DVSoftware> !root
[02:26] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:26] <Kyral> there isn't one
[02:26] <Kyral> you preface all commands needing root with sudo
[02:26] <Kyral> the password is your user password
[02:26] <th4_bandit> then how am i supposed to use apt-get?
[02:26] <FlimFlamMan> hello peoples.  any idea where the /etc/init.d/privoxy script is?  i installed privoxy but it didn't install the startup script
[02:26] <Misos> sudo apt-get
[02:26] <Misos> =P
[02:26] <hmrocha> requiem_, no, it's on
[02:27] <miguel> Misos, can you help me with a quick question?
[02:27] <miguel> plz?
[02:27] <Misos> I doubt it.
[02:27] <miguel> i am trying to install teTeX
[02:27] <requiem_> uhh, if it isn't muted I don't know what might be
[02:27] <stizoner> wait in line
[02:27] <stizoner> lol
[02:27] <dech> can anyone tell me where to get gtk+ package ?
[02:28] <miguel> and it requires me to reset my PATH
[02:28] <requiem_> in the first place, frozen-bubble didn't found a soundcard
[02:28] <requiem_> hmrocha, lspci | grep -i audio
[02:28] <hmrocha> 0000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[02:28] <Misos> you typed sudo apt-get install tetex-bin
[02:28] <Misos> ?
[02:29] <jtan325> if i have both the eth0 and wlan0 devices plugged in, up and running
[02:29] <jtan325> how do i determine which one my computer's using?
[02:29] <miguel> no
[02:29] <miguel> i downloaded the tar files
[02:29] <miguel> and unpacked them
[02:29] <Misos> do what I said
[02:29] <requiem_> hmrocha, uhh :| you do have suport for that driver, in alsa, right ?
[02:29] <miguel> from the prompt?
[02:29] <Misos> in a shell, yes
[02:30] <miguel> ok
[02:30] <hmrocha> requiem_, i don't know
[02:30] <LinuxJones> miguel, why not jsut install tetex from the Ubuntu repos ?
[02:31] <bimberi> jtan325: type "route" in a terminal - look for the Iface next to the default Destination
[02:31] <miguel> what do i need to do after it is done?
[02:31] <Misos> run it
[02:31] <Misos> =P
[02:32] <tm17h> Hi all. I've done unbearably stupid (upgrade to breezy) and am trying to back up. By fiddling with preferences, I was able to get apt-get dist-upgrade to propose a huge number of downgrades (what I want). Going through with it (which requires typing "Yes, do as I say!" results in a slur of error messages ending in dpkg returned an error code (2). Can anyone help me sort out what's going on?
[02:32] <DVSoftware> configure: error: *** SPIDERMONKEY javascript engine not found !*** <=but i have it installed
[02:32] <requiem_> :|
[02:32] <SeannyFun> hey everyone I'm a linux newb and I've just installed Ubuntu for the first time. I've completed the installation but for some reason it dumps me into the $ prompt and goes not load Gnome
[02:32] <requiem_> hmrocha, that's odd
[02:32] <LinuxJones> tm17h, well you basically messed up your system
[02:32] <jtan325> bimberi, i have two "defaults"
[02:32] <hmrocha> requiem_, really odd
[02:32] <tm17h> LinuxJones: Yeah, I knew that :)
[02:33] <sebastien> hi
[02:33] <jtan325> one that has Iface eth0, and the other wlan0
[02:33] <sebastien> french ?
[02:33] <dech> could anyone tell me where to get gtk+ ?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> tm17h, honestly just re-install and save yourself some grief :D
[02:33] <bimberi> jtan325: hmm ok how about - System -> Administration -> Networking  -  Default gateway device
[02:33] <tm17h> LinuxJones: worst comes to worse, everything important is on a separate /home/ partition anyway.
[02:33] <tm17h> LinuxJones: It's strange that downgrading is so hard when upgrading is so easy.
[02:34] <LinuxJones> tm17h, excellent that should only take an hour , and there is no apt-get downgrade :P
[02:34] <jtan325> bimberi, thanks
[02:34] <jtan325> that worked
[02:34] <jtan325> is there a command-line way though?
[02:34] <jtan325> besides "route"
[02:34] <mveers> bye
[02:34] <jtan325> or is there a command line way to tell ubuntu to use one device over the other if both are available
[02:35] <bimberi> jtan325: not sure sorry - i did think that would work
[02:35] <tm17h> LinuxJones: Okay -- so I'll move anything out of /usr/local/ etc. back to /home/, then dig up my old hoary install disks and start from scratch -- there's not a better way, is there?
[02:35] <brettcar> Is it possible to safely upgrade to Breezy and/or Colony 3 without reinstalling?
[02:35] <th4_bandit> how do you update the apt-get?
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> brettcar: allegedly :)
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> brettcar: if you can fix things that may go wrong (likely)
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> then go for it
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> but it should (in general) work
[02:36] <LinuxJones> tm17h, jsut do a fresh install and tell the installer not to over right your home partition and tell the installer to use that partition for your home partition and you should be good to go.
[02:36] <tm17h> dech: gtk+ is pretty standard in any ubuntu distro. If you have gnome you have it. What are you trying to do/what's not working?
[02:36] <brettcar> HrdwrBoB: Are there known things that go wrong then? ;)
[02:36] <tm17h> LinuxJones: Okay. Thanks.
[02:36] <LinuxJones> tm17h, good luck
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> brettcar: not that I know of, but odds are something will need tweaking/hacking
[02:36] <tm17h> LinuxJones: I'll hop on IRC and check the message *before* upgrading next time.
[02:37] <dech> tm17h im trying to install gaim, im also using kubuntu :)
[02:37] <brettcar> HrdwrBoB: Hm, anything catastrophic? I use this computer for work.
[02:37] <LinuxJones> tm17h, heh
[02:37] <dech> so kde
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> brettcar: shouldn't be, but don't say you weren't warned :)
[02:37] <brettcar> Kay ;)
[02:37] <niran> what's the fix for X fonts in breezy again?
[02:37] <SeannyFun> can someone help me out with an install problem?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> it's considered 'working, but testing' currently
[02:37] <niran> X doesn't start and complains that it can't find the fonts
[02:37] <LinuxJones> tm17h, only 2 months till Breezy get's released !!
[02:37] <speel> yepp
[02:37] <hmrocha> niran, sudo apt-get install xfonts-base
[02:37] <speel> breezy looks the same tho
[02:38] <hmrocha> niran, i think it's that package
[02:38] <beep> hi
[02:38] <niran> hmrocha, thanks
[02:38] <dech> # Checking for GTK+ user interface toolkit ... failed
[02:38] <dech> # FAIL:  Could not find 'GTK+ user interface toolkit'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release) (apt) to install a package with similar name to 'gtk+'
[02:38] <hmrocha> niran, apt-cache search fonts
[02:38] <Ice9> !dri
[02:38] <ubotu> I don't know, Ice9
[02:39] <hmrocha> niran, i confirmed, it's that package
[02:40] <hmrocha> niran, you should delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:40] <beep> I have a question for x-chat. If somaone knows this program, please send me personal window...
[02:40] <p0z3r> has anyone had a problem with laptops and unbuntu installs where the screen cycles like bad television reception?
[02:40] <hmrocha> niran, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <hmrocha> beep, knows what program?
[02:41] <beep> the x-chat mirc
[02:41] <antiPosix> I am new to debian and ubuntu.  I am a redhat(rpm) person in regards to xorg libs.  I am trying to compile gtk+ and it cant find the standard xorg-libs which I know arnt installed.  what is the snazzy dpkg or apt-get command to install the xorg devlopment libraries?
[02:41] <hmrocha> beep, x-chat mirc?
[02:41] <DVSoftware> configure: error: *** SPIDERMONKEY javascript engine not found !*** <=but i have it installed
[02:41] <beep> from ubuntu distribution
[02:41] <hmrocha> beep, x-chat is an irc client, mirc is another
[02:41] <hmrocha> beep, there is no "x-chat mirc"
[02:42] <beep> ok then, I meen x-chat
[02:42] <th4_bandit> does anyone know an apt-get equivelent to emerge world
[02:42] <gverig> hello.
[02:42] <antiPosix> beep I'm sure mirc would work fine with wine
[02:42] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:42] <hmrocha> beep, almost everyone in the linux world uses x-chat
[02:42] <antiPosix> hmrocha: or gaim
[02:42] <niran> hmrocha, that didn't fix it
[02:42] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: No, that doesn't spend 24 hours compiling shit
[02:42] <bimberi> or irssi
[02:43] <bimberi> cafuego: lol
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: sorry my bad
[02:43] <niran> hmrocha, when configuring xfonts-base, it complains that /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc isn't a directory
[02:43] <hmrocha> bimberi, irssi? i live in the XXI century, i don't have a ZX Spectrum anymore
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> try cat /dev/urandom
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> watch it for 24h
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> then press ctrl-c
[02:43] <bimberi> hmrocha: :)
[02:43] <niran> hmrocha, it still installs, but /x doesn't start
[02:43] <antiPosix> any one line bandits want to give me the command to get the xorg dev libs?
[02:43] <hmrocha> niran, delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:43] <antiPosix> yum xorg-devel?
[02:44] <hmrocha> niran, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:44] <hmrocha> antiPosix, i was told IRC support in gaim sucked
[02:44] <hmrocha> antiPosix, never used it though
[02:44] <antiPosix> flippin debian.  I read the linuxfromscratch howto, I can make them manually(xorg-devels) but I want simplicity
[02:44] <gverig> Question: I have a thumbdrive in and it is mounted under /media/usbdisk (as it is supposed to). I have a mounter plug-in on a panel but it does not see the drive (weird). How can I unmount it? Unmount says that /media/usbdisk is not in fstab; sda1 - only root can unmount. I can 'su' and unmount but was curious as for what the "right way" is. Any hints?
[02:44] <beep> ok, I'll tell u the problem... I want to connect on DalNet server but it disconnects me because it says that I have a trojan/virus and it sends me to a site for Windows antivirus.. Why?
[02:44] <th4_bandit> why is apt-get so shitty?
[02:44] <hmrocha> bimberi, i really don't understand why people keep using text apps
[02:44] <MrPockets> hey, if any of you arent too busy, could you throw a screen shot of your desktop at me?
[02:44] <dech> anyone free to give me a hand with this ? -
[02:44] <dech> # Checking for GTK+ user interface toolkit ... failed
[02:44] <dech> # FAIL:  Could not find 'GTK+ user interface toolkit'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release) (apt) to install a package with similar name to 'gtk+'
[02:45] <benkong2> can somebody help with an ftp problem? can't get directory listing error 557
[02:45] <calc> antiPosix: xorg has been split into modules now
[02:45] <antiPosix> dech: I am on your tails holmes
[02:45] <calc> antiPosix: i don't think there is a single package that will pull all development packages in
[02:45] <antiPosix> calc: it always has been
[02:45] <antiPosix> calc: core, devel, etc
[02:45] <snorks> does ubuntu come with sshd default?
[02:45] <bimberi> hmrocha: some people ssh into remote servers for irc
[02:45] <hmrocha> snorks, no
[02:45] <antiPosix> calc: even back in XFree86
[02:45] <niran> snorks, no
[02:45] <calc> antiPosix: er?
[02:45] <calc> antiPosix: it wasn't split like it is now, heh
[02:45] <marcin> hmrocha: there are even some weird linux users that use erc as irc client
[02:45] <steveO_Office> how do I change rpms to .deb
[02:46] <calc> antiPosix: or perhaps you just haven't been paying atention in the past few months? :)
[02:46] <hmrocha> marcin, that are really a very low percentage of them
[02:46] <antiPosix> calc: oh.  But anyways.  what is the debian command to download and install the devel package?
[02:46] <hmrocha> bimberi, "normal" users don't
[02:46] <antiPosix> calc: I've been paying heavy attention.  I never use packages though
[02:46] <calc> antiPosix: that is what i am saying there isn't just one devel package
[02:46] <snorks> niran, the correct apt-get to get sshd is apt-get install ssh? i dont know which package to take
[02:46] <calc> antiPosix: there is probably around 30 or so
[02:46] <antiPosix> calc: I see, sorry than
[02:46] <bimberi> hmrocha: define "normal"
[02:46] <antiPosix> calc: So there are multiple devel pacs?
[02:46] <niran> snorks, opensshd-server
[02:46] <th4_bandit> why cant i apt-get eterm or gdesklets
[02:46] <niran> snorks, or something like that
[02:46] <tm17h> dech: Did you install gaim with apt-get?
[02:46] <calc> antiPosix: yea one for each library, etc
[02:46] <hmrocha> bimberi, people not connected to computer science
[02:47] <dech> tm17h nope with autopackage
[02:47] <hmrocha> bimberi, maybe you mom, your father, that kind of people
[02:47] <calc> eg x11proto-*-dev and various other lib*-dev packages
[02:47] <tm17h> dech: I'd just try apt-get install gaim
[02:47] <th4_bandit> why cant i apt-get eterm or gdesklets????
[02:48] <bimberi> hmrocha: but they're not in "the linux world" (going back to your original assertion)
[02:48] <dech> tm17h ok thanks :)
[02:48] <calc> antiPosix: xlibs-dev will pull some in but not all afaik
[02:48] <antiPosix> calc: all: so does ubuntu/deb not have any packages that can install the libs? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/x/installing.html#xorg has it all
[02:48] <hmrocha> bimberi, that's why linux is still behind windows, because people keep separating the two worlds
[02:48] <antiPosix> calc: all: I just dont want to compile 6.8.1 if I dont have to
[02:48] <dech> Reading package lists... Done
[02:48] <dech> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:48] <dech> E: Couldn't find package gaim
[02:48] <hmrocha> bimberi, "i use linux, i'm geek, you use windows, you're lame"
[02:48] <calc> antiPosix: install the devel packages for the libraries you are trying to compile against
[02:48] <hmrocha> bimberi, very typical expression
[02:49] <calc> antiPosix: its not that hard to figure out
[02:49] <tm17h> dech: That's odd.
[02:49] <bimberi> bimberi: not for me it isn't
[02:49] <dech> tm17h :D
[02:49] <dech> tm17h, its also not in kynaptic
[02:49] <antiPosix> calc: I dont know the name of the package manager.  is it apt-get?
[02:49] <bimberi> hmrocha: not for me it isn't (gawd talking to myself again :) )
[02:49] <hmrocha> bimberi, i listen to a lot of people saying "if you use linux, you must use the shell, forget about graphical apps"
[02:50] <niran> hmrocha, still doesn't work
[02:50] <calc> antiPosix: yes
[02:50] <Ice9> what kind of distro is gnome?
[02:50] <calc> antiPosix: apt-get install (foo)
[02:50] <RabidDog> Where can I make a suggestion for a feature addition to added, a featrue where one is notified of new packages added tot he ubuntu repository, ie when games are packaged for the first time and palce in the ubuntu repository?
[02:50] <Ice9> I mean
[02:50] <bimberi> hmrocha: that has been true but i feel that ubuntu is a major leap in that regard
[02:50] <Ice9> what kind of distro is ubuntu?
[02:50] <hmrocha> niran, sudo apt-get x-window-system
[02:50] <hmrocha> niran, and sudo apt-get x-window-system-core
[02:50] <RabidDog> Where can I make a suggestion for a feature addition to added, a feature where one is notified of new packages added to the ubuntu repository, ie when games are packaged for the first time and palce in the ubuntu repository?
[02:51] <hmrocha> bimberi, yes, that's why i use ubuntu and my mom thinks ubuntu is easier that windows
[02:51] <Ice9> !ubuntu
[02:51] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:51] <hmrocha> bimberi, "...than windows"
[02:51] <calc> antiPosix: there are also package manager frontends that let you see all the packags, like aptitude/synaptic/dselect
[02:51] <bimberi> Ice9: fantastic
[02:51] <calc> antiPosix: and apt-cache search (foo) which does package database searchs for you
[02:51] <bimberi> hmrocha: fantastic
[02:52] <muffin_> can't execute jar file: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: OT44/jar
[02:52] <FlimFlamMan> does the evolution connector for exchange work over https?
[02:52] <bimberi> Ice9: erm, not sure about your question.  Ubuntu is based on debian - is that what you mean
[02:52] <hmrocha> bimberi, but i'm a computer science student so it doesn't matter if i use ubuntu or another distro
[02:52] <k421k1> any speeak spanish?????????????
[02:53] <bimberi> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:53] <xoxo_jas> how can i run the setup of ubuntu?
[02:53] <dech> i suppose i could always try a tar version of gaim right ? xhat just then had no problem seeing gtk
[02:53] <niran> hmrocha, all that's adding is some /gl and dri packages
[02:53] <k421k1> 0k thanks
[02:53] <dech> xchat*
[02:53] <xoxo_jas> i insert the cd i dont see setup file.
[02:53] <hmrocha> niran, do it please
[02:53] <bimberi> hmrocha: that's nice :)
[02:53] <skalpel> can someone tell me why i am getting this error when tryingt o load protftpd? skalpel@emachine:/var/log$ proftpd relad
[02:53] <skalpel>  - Fatal: SystemLog: unable to redirect logging to '/var/log/secure': Permission denied on line 32 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[02:54] <EasterSunshine> xoxo_jas: are you having your comp boot from cd before hard disk?
[02:54] <nightcrawler> if i installed KDE for ubuntu ( i think its called kubuntu-desktop) or something like that
[02:54] <nightcrawler> how do i  uninstall it
[02:54] <DVSoftware> skalpel, run it as root
[02:54] <nightcrawler> i dont like kde
[02:54] <EasterSunshine> xoxo_jas: and are you sure you don't have the live cd?
[02:54] <DVSoftware> sudo proftpd
[02:54] <hmrocha> niran, i'll stay here until you have breezy working, but i'll get something to eat
[02:54] <xoxo_jas> i dont know
[02:54] <muffin_> how do i install a tgz file?
[02:54] <xoxo_jas> i ordered from ubuntu site
[02:54] <umbuto> question, if i can hear system sounds but can't play music on xmms or hear anything from vlc, what am i missing?
[02:54] <JakGC> Hi all. Has anyone got postgres going on ubuntu 4.xxx? I got make etc working on old redhat 9, but readline, and perl etc are not set up on ubuntu for the make to work.
[02:54] <hmrocha> muffin_, tar xvzf foobar.fgz
[02:55] <hmrocha> muffin_, tar xvzf foobar.tgz
[02:55] <muffin_> hmrocha, thx
[02:55] <xoxo_jas> i have
[02:55] <xoxo_jas> lol
[02:55] <nightcrawler> umbuto what kind of music files?
[02:55] <tm17h> muffin_: Then read the README inside. And you need a - in front -- tar -zxvf
[02:55] <xoxo_jas> it has two cds
[02:55] <Concord_Dawn> !fonts
[02:55] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:55] <xoxo_jas> in pack live and install CD
[02:55] <umbuto> well wav/mp123 and avi files
[02:55] <hmrocha> niran, i have to sleep so i hope you get that working soon :)
[02:55] <hmrocha> niran, i have to work tomorrow
[02:55] <nightcrawler> umbuto - you can play mp3's correct?
[02:55] <EasterSunshine> xoxo_jas: stick the live cd in, and restart comp
[02:55] <umbuto> nope
[02:55] <umbuto> i can not
[02:56] <bimberi> JakGC: postgresql can be installed using apt
[02:56] <xoxo_jas> EasterSunshine and it will work?
[02:56] <umbuto> i did download the libarys for it
[02:56] <umbuto> though
[02:56] <umbuto> avi files, i can see video but no sound
[02:56] <EasterSunshine> xoxo_jas: if it boots into your current operating system, enter the bios setup and set it to boot from cd instead of from hdd
[02:56] <umbuto> and i hear system sounds "those little drum beats fine"
[02:56] <umbuto> xmms try to play the mp3
[02:56] <umbuto> but hangs
[02:56] <umbuto> its not if something were taking up the sound process and its not able to output
[02:56] <umbuto> its if like*
[02:56] <nightcrawler> umbuto - did you install the multimedia codecs?
[02:57] <umbuto> yes i did
[02:57] <umbuto> i added the extra repos
[02:57] <umbuto> and downloaded the mpeg123 libs
[02:57] <EasterSunshine> tm17h: the - isn't required in front of xvzf, jsut to let you know. it is assumed
[02:57] <geneo93> maybe you dont have codecs
[02:57] <Karhuton> umbuto, Esd might be hogging the device
[02:57] <tm17h> EasterSunshine: How about that :)
[02:57] <umbuto> how do i unhog it?
[02:57] <miguel> can some1 tell me how to reset $PATH to its original form?
[02:57] <niran> hmrocha, thanks for all the help
[02:58] <antiPosix> calc: thank you
[02:58] <cyphase> is ubuntu supposed to support HFS?
[02:58] <Karhuton> umbuto, are you using a gstreamer based multimedia player?
[02:58] <umbuto> im not sure
[02:58] <umbuto> is vlc considered one?
[02:58] <Karhuton> Are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[02:58] <xoxo_jas> EasterSunshine thanks bra.
[02:58] <umbuto> i downloaded all the nessessary gsteramer liberarys
[02:58] <umbuto> nope
[02:58] <hmrocha> niran, is it working now?
[02:59] <Karhuton> umbuto, type: dpkg --list | grep totem. Which one do you have installed?
[02:59] <cyphase> is ubuntu supposed to support HFS?
[02:59] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[02:59] <umbuto> rc  totem-gstreame 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 A simple media player for the Gnome desktop
[02:59] <dech> ok
[02:59] <dech> so
[02:59] <niran> hmrocha, nope
[02:59] <hmrocha> niran, what error?
[03:00] <dech> after getting the gaim tar it says GLIB is what i need, from gtk.org >_<
[03:00] <Karhuton> umbuto, I don't know which are the correct English translations, but from gnome panel: System -> Preferences -> Multimedia System Selector
[03:00] <hmrocha> niran, did you do a dist-upgrade?
[03:00] <niran> hmrocha, it can't find the fonts
[03:00] <Karhuton> Check that gstreamer uses Esd for audio input
[03:00] <niran> hmrocha, yeah
[03:00] <Karhuton> I mean output
[03:00] <Karhuton> Ofcourse
[03:00] <niran> hmrocha, the problem is that the fonts moved to /etc/X11/fonts
[03:00] <hmrocha> niran, and you installed the two packages i told you to install?
[03:00] <reiki> ok... found another app I need... an sftp app?
[03:01] <niran> hmrocha, but X is looking in /usr/lib/X11/fonts
[03:01] <niran> hmrocha, yeah
[03:01] <umbuto> Karhuton Check that gstreamer uses Esd for audio input
[03:01] <umbuto> how do i check?
[03:01] <amonkey> none of my sound except for the ubuntu boot sound will work until i kill esd. this did not happen with my old sound card. what's up with that?
[03:01] <Karhuton> 04:00   Karhuton > umbuto, I don't know which are the correct English translations, but from gnome panel: System -> Preferences -> Multimedia System Selector
[03:02] <hmrocha> niran, i think i just installed the two xwindow-system* packages, the xfonts-base and erased the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:02] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:02] <umbuto> yea esd is on
[03:02] <hmrocha> niran, next, i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:02] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to find out the name of a service listening on a port?
[03:02] <hmrocha> niran, and everything worked fine
[03:02] <Karhuton> umbuto, And you're trying to use totem to play music?
[03:02] <hmrocha> niran, try to "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[03:02] <codecaine> netstat -p
[03:02] <umbuto> no im trying to get xmms to play my mp3s
[03:02] <Karhuton> What about rhythmbox?
[03:02] <hmrocha> niran, then erase the xorg.conf and try the reconfigure
[03:02] <umbuto> i installed the libarys for it
[03:03] <hmrocha> umbuto, forget about xmms
[03:03] <umbuto> and im trying to vlc to play my avi files with sound
[03:03] <Karhuton> umbuto, XMMS propably tries OSS or ALSA and not Esd by default
[03:03] <umbuto> doh
[03:03] <Karhuton> umbuto, Esd is used with totem and rhythmbox
[03:03] <puol> anybody know how to set the xpde on ubuntu
[03:03] <umbuto> i see..
[03:03] <Karhuton> umbuto, it hogs the sound device and other apps can't access it
[03:03] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:03] <Karhuton> You can make Xmms use Esd, I think
[03:04] <umbuto> let me check the prefs
[03:04] <umbuto> brb
[03:04] <Karhuton> umbuto, Yeah. On the first page of properties is Esd
[03:04] <Karhuton> Atleast on my system it's "OSS" by default
[03:04] <steveO_Office> Ok anyone no were I get NetworkManager from...  This like isnt working http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/ ./
[03:05] <reiki> what's the name of a secure shell client app for Ubuntu? I had one on WinXP that did both sftp and shell
[03:05] <HrdwrBoB> putty
[03:05] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[03:05] <DVSoftware> can anyone help me
[03:05] <umbuto> ok i see it
[03:05] <HrdwrBoB> reiki: er... ssh
[03:05] <umbuto> lemme see if it works
[03:05] <ompaul> reiki, ssh - gives you shell and sftp is sftp
[03:05] <umbuto> oh my goodness Karhuton  you are genius
[03:05] <reiki> HrdwrBoB: is that graphical in Gnome? or command line?
[03:05] <umbuto> thank YOU!
[03:05] <umbuto> it works
[03:05] <Karhuton> umbuto, and then you need to install: vlc-plugin-esd
[03:06] <umbuto> ITS ALIVE!
[03:06] <HrdwrBoB> reiki: command line
[03:06] <umbuto> karhuton i would hug you if i could
[03:06] <Karhuton> And from VLC's preferences choose to use Esd instead of Alsa/Oss
[03:06] <DVSoftware> i can't compile avidemux
[03:06] <reiki> HrdwrBoB: ok thanks
[03:06] <umbuto> :-)
[03:06] <Karhuton> Unless you have breasts, I wouldn't let you
[03:06] <Karhuton> ;)
[03:06] <steveO_Office> LOL
[03:06] <umbuto> lol
[03:06] <HrdwrBoB> Karhuton: having breasts doesn't mean that someone is not a man ;)
[03:06] <HrdwrBoB> .. just btw
[03:07] <steveO_Office> O here it go's!!!!
[03:07] <DVSoftware> it's complaining about missing spidermonkey
[03:07] <DVSoftware> but i have spidermonkey installed
[03:07] <pitt> hello there
[03:07] <Karhuton> HrdwrBoB, I close my eyes and don't think about it.
[03:07] <steveO_Office> Ok anyone no were I get NetworkManager from...  This like isnt working http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/ ./
[03:07] <raggedgentleman> would anyone know why my firefox would stop working after apt-get update?
[03:07] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, because it needs to be restarted?
[03:07] <niran> hmrocha, still doesnt work
[03:07] <niran> steveO_Office, that's an old, broken package
[03:08] <raggedgentleman> ompaul, the computer?
[03:08] <dech> :'( to install gaim i have to install glib which means i have to install pkg-config which is havin insanity errors :O
[03:08] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, no firefix
[03:08] <steveO_Office> lol ok we have a newer one?
[03:08] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, no firefox even
[03:08] <Joose^> what modem internal doesn't have problem with ubuntu?
[03:08] <Dreamer3> is there a want to get window-# keys to work in XFCE to switch screens?
[03:08] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, restarting a computer is only for a new kernel
[03:08] <Dreamer3> i'm totally missing this from gnome
[03:08] <jeremi> I am triing to get my clock to stop displaying military time can any one help
[03:08] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:08] <raggedgentleman> ompaul, well i restarted x
[03:09] <steveO_Office> Googles IS NOT MY FRIEND TO NIGHT lol
[03:09] <adam_> hi all, hows it going?
[03:09] <raggedgentleman> ompaul, there are no instances of fire fox running on this computer as far as i know
[03:09] <Karhuton> steveO_Office, the days, you count Google as your friend, are sad
[03:09] <Madpilot> jeremi: you mean 24hr time? right click, select Preferences (assuming you're in Gnome...)
[03:09] <adam_> i need some help getting lightweight desktop for Hoary
[03:10] <jeremi> tried that
[03:10] <steveO_Office> lol
[03:10] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, 'ps auwx | grep fox' will tell you if there are
[03:10] <dech>  sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:10] <dech> Reading package lists... Done
[03:10] <dech> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:10] <dech> E: Couldn't find package gaim
[03:10] <dech> :'(
[03:10] <kicolobo> Hi, how can I configure ubuntu to turn off my computer?
[03:10] <steveO_Office>  im on 14 hrs in the office tonight....
[03:10] <adam_> i'm running an old PC with 500 mhz AMD k-6 and gnome is really slow
[03:10] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, and the line that says grep fox is nothing to do with firefox (just in case you didn't knowhtat)
[03:10] <puol> set up icewm
[03:10] <adam_> uses a lot of resources although i do have 512 ram
[03:10] <Madpilot> jeremi: in Preferences, put it to 12hr time - that works for me, altough I use 24hr time myself
[03:11] <adam_> puol, thanks
[03:11] <puol> :)
[03:11] <raggedgentleman> ompaul, and if kill doesn't seem to want to kill it?
[03:11] <adam_> i tried icewm, but it would not cmpile from source
[03:11] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, killall
[03:11] <adam_> is there a specific package that works best with hoary?
[03:11] <kicolobo> how can I make the power management of my computer work on ubuntu?
[03:11] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, that is killall firefox
[03:11] <geppy> ompaul:  wouldn't that be `killall firefox-bin`?
[03:11] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, kill -9 process_id_
[03:12] <geppy> Are there any GNU/Linux alternatives to Alcohol 120%?  I need to back up my CDs.
[03:12] <xoxo_jas> how do i set pc
[03:12] <xoxo_jas> to boot from a cd?
[03:12] <ompaul> geppy, it would :)
[03:12] <puol> use bios
[03:12] <geppy> ompaul: :)
[03:12] <xoxo_jas> how do i go there?
[03:12] <jeremi> ok I feel dumb it works in Gnome but not kde
[03:12] <kicolobo> restart your computer with the DELETE key pressed xoxo_jas
[03:12] <ompaul> geppy, I don't know that package - check mondo
[03:12] <Madpilot> xoxo_jas: in your BIOS setting - either F2 or DEL on restart
[03:12] <geppy> xoxo_jas: Reboot, hit F2, or F1, or Del, or something, it will tell you what to do.
[03:12] <puol> :)
[03:12] <adam_> does anyone know which ICEWM version is best with hoary 5.04
[03:13] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:13] <xoxo_jas> ok
[03:13] <puol> icewm4
[03:13] <xoxo_jas> kthx
[03:13] <raggedgentleman> ompaul, killall firefox returns no such processes
[03:13] <ompaul> raggedgentleman, geppy ompaul:  wouldn't that be `killall firefox-bin`
[03:13] <adam_> icewm4, cool, any thing else i need to know?
[03:13] <DVSoftware> please
[03:13] <DVSoftware> anyone
[03:13] <jeremi> 12hr clk in gnome but in kde its still 24
[03:13] <kicolobo> adam, you can try xfce too.
[03:13] <Madpilot> jeremi: might want to ask on #kubuntu?
[03:13] <DVSoftware> spidermonkey?
[03:14] <ompaul> it is two fifteen am time to ZZ I think
[03:14] <jeremi> ok
[03:14] <FlimFlamMan> so exchange connector for evolution is trashed
[03:14] <adam_> kicolobo, i'm about ready to erase all and try xfce - it comes pakaged with FC3
[03:14] <kicolobo> well, does anyone here knows how to help me?
[03:14] <geppy> ompaul: Alcohol 120% is a CD backup program that has workarounds for things like SecuRom, etc.  Anything like that for Linux?  dd, of course, doesn't work for this
[03:14] <DVSoftware> checking jsapi.h usability... no
[03:14] <DVSoftware> checking jsapi.h presence... no
[03:14] <DVSoftware> checking for jsapi.h... no
[03:14] <DVSoftware> configure: error: *** SPIDERMONKEY javascript engine not found !***
[03:14] <adam_> xfce for hoary has a lot o dependencis that that i dont have on system
[03:14] <DVSoftware> what should i do
[03:14] <DVSoftware> i have spidermonkey installed
[03:15] <EasterSunshine> isn't alcohol 120% available for linux?
[03:15] <nariman> how can i see if my video dirvers are installed properly?
[03:15] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:15] <geppy> EasterSunshine: Is it?  On the Alcohol 120% website, I only saw Win32 info.
[03:15] <EasterSunshine> dvsoftware: please do not paste in the channel, do it in the pastebin instead. see the /topic for pastebin link
[03:15] <skalpel> why does my computer keep beeping?
[03:15] <puol> crash
[03:15] <geppy> skalpel: Perhaps you have Gaim or something set to use the "system bell"?
[03:15] <DVSoftware> EasterSunshine, sorry about that
[03:16] <DVSoftware> but i'm really confused
[03:16] <EasterSunshine> geppy: i thought i saw install instructions for alcohol 120% on ubuntuguide...but w/e ubuntuguide sucks
[03:16] <nariman> how can i see if my video dirvers are installed properly?
[03:16] <skalpel> geppy: well that is what i thought too, at first, but i cannot find any programs making events
[03:16] <puol> use xawtv
[03:16] <EasterSunshine> greppy: i'm probably wrong
[03:16] <raggedgentleman> skalpel, i had a similar problem
[03:16] <skalpel> raggedgentleman: what did you do abput it?
[03:16] <geppy> EasterSunshine: Well, I don't see anything on ubuntu guide about alcohol, but that doesn't mean that you're wrong. :-)
[03:17] <raggedgentleman> skalpel, i thought my computer was over heating or something, is it like an alarm sound??
[03:17] <EasterSunshine> greppy: maybe there is a way to turn a mounted filesystem into an iso? anyone know anything about that?
[03:17] <james> can you run microsoft office using Ubuntu?
[03:17] <raggedgentleman> skalpel, unplugged the speaker =o)
[03:17] <miguel> hey, can some1 tell me how do i get gcc to be on my $PATH, plz?
[03:17] <geppy> EasterSunshine: dd if=/dev/x of=/asdf.iso
[03:17] <skalpel> raggedgentleman: no, that would be pretty cool though
[03:17] <raggedgentleman> skalpel, not reccomended...
[03:17] <puol> u cant using crossover james
[03:17] <geppy> james: I would try using CrossOver Office if I _had_ to run Office, but OpenOffice.org is nice..
[03:17] <skalpel> no, i am not going to do that. you violant chap.
[03:17] <dech> james you dont need to, you can get openoffice.org
[03:17] <nariman> can someone help me install Via chipset drivers and graphix drivers??
[03:17] <geppy> puol:  You mean "can", right?
[03:17] <EasterSunshine> james: you can try wine, it may not work perfectly, or you can try crossover office, but it costs money
[03:17] <adam_> # 1.2.23 released (2005-08-14)
[03:17] <adam_> # 1.2.22 released (2005-07-17)
[03:17] <adam_> # 1.2.21 released (2005-05-31)
[03:17] <adam_> # 1.2.20 released (2005-01-09)
[03:18] <geppy> adam: please don't do that
[03:18] <james> but Ununtu has the same kind of programs right?
[03:18] <puol> yes
[03:18] <adam_> those wer from ICEWM site- sorry geppy
[03:18] <adam_> what happened?
[03:18] <Madpilot> james: why? OpenOffice is included in ubuntu
[03:18] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:18] <EasterSunshine> any of you tried koffice? how does it different from openofficeorg?
[03:18] <james> yeah but it doesn't have a program like Access where you can create databases
[03:18] <geppy> I don't see anything about alcohol 120% for Linux. :/
[03:19] <adam_> oh- they must have been hotlinks. i just wanted the text..
[03:19] <adam_> i see now, thanks
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> geppy: do you know about wine?
[03:19] <james> what is crossover?
[03:19] <geppy> EasterSunshine: haha, of course
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> greppy: i don't konw how promising it is to run alcohol 120% on wine though...
[03:19] <nariman> what core is ubuntu build on??????
[03:19] <geppy> EasterSunshine: Enough to know that I'd rather run a native application. ;)
[03:19] <geppy> nariman: By "core" do you mean "kernel"?
[03:19] <adam_> puol, ICEWM4?
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: .. no that would be silly
[03:19] <adam_> doesn't exist
[03:19] <dimethyl> hello
[03:19] <nariman> can u use drivers that are built for other kernels?
[03:20] <james> how about dos games?
[03:20] <geppy> I'm running Ubuntu Hoary, and it comes with Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[03:20] <Quest-Master> nariman: no
[03:20] <geppy> nariman: er, no
[03:20] <nariman> :(
[03:20] <adam_> 1.2.?
[03:20] <dimethyl> does anyone know of a program for linux that converts divx3 to svcds?
[03:20] <Agrajag> james: use dosbox
[03:20] <Razor-X> is there any command to undo an `rm'?
[03:20] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:20] <nariman> geppy: if there is a "source" alternative for driver, shall i chose them instad then?
[03:20] <james> what is dosbox?
[03:20] <geppy> Razor-X: haha
[03:20] <adam_> rzor x, usually no
[03:20] <Razor-X> quickly, i'm losing the file as I speak!
[03:20] <Razor-X> -_-
[03:20] <geppy> nariman: huh?
[03:20] <nightcrawler> i got a question thast un-ubuntu related
[03:20] <thezombiehunter> how do i get my sound to work, i have disabled the onboard sound and my sound card is sound blaster live 24bit im running kubuntu
[03:20] <nightcrawler> can i ask it?
[03:20] <adam_> rm is quite permanant
[03:20] <geppy> Razor-X: CTRL-C
[03:20] <dimethyl> hit control c razor
[03:21] <Agrajag> james: it emulates an 486 running dos
[03:21] <Razor-X> geppy: I didn't rm /
[03:21] <Madpilot> !info dosbox
[03:21] <dimethyl> than go to sourceforge and look fora program of such
[03:21] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[03:21] <Agrajag> freedos I think
[03:21] <Razor-X> it was a 200 MB file
[03:21] <james> where would I get it from?
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> thezombiehunter: start alsamixer in a terminal, go to main and PCM, and unmute them (press m)
[03:21] <nariman> geppy: im looking for video drivers for my card, and i've found different drivers att viaarena.com
[03:21] <Agrajag> james: the bot just said it's in universe
[03:21] <geppy> dimethyl: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A//dvdripping-guid.berlios.de/Divx-to-VCD_en.html&ei=4TMFQ9DgAqbO4QGa_vWODg
[03:21] <Madpilot> james: from the ubuntu repositories
[03:21] <nariman> but there are no drivers for ubuntu
[03:21] <Razor-X> time to retorrent it
[03:21] <dimethyl> thanks geppy
[03:21] <Razor-X> last time I forget to read my M-p .....
[03:21] <nariman> what shall i do?
[03:21] <thezombiehunter> HrdwrBpB: is Alsamixer installed
[03:21] <dimethyl> ya thanks a lot buddy!
[03:22] <james> oh ok thank you
[03:22] <geppy> dimethyl: No problem, and no assurances that that'll work ;)
[03:22] <nariman> can't i just compile the source and use the drivers???
[03:22] <Ice9> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) how do I fix that
[03:22] <geppy> nariman: sure, do that
[03:22] <nariman> and it will work?
[03:22] <geppy> nariman: That would be the desired effect.
[03:23] <nariman> haha, another question:) how do i compile :/ newbie
[03:23] <raggedgentleman> so firefox is dead after i did apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <thezombiehunter> how do i start/get alsamixer
[03:23] <geppy> thezombiehunter: sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[03:23] <thezombiehunter> *slaps head* thks
[03:23] <geppy> thezombiehunter: then `alsamixer`
[03:23] <geppy> thezombiehunter: No problem.
[03:23] <Dreamer3_> anyone use XFCE?
[03:23] <Dreamer3_> anyone use XFCE?
[03:24] <muffin_> i get following wine error message:regedit: Can't export. Registry key 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall' does not exist!
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:~$ sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> Password:
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> Reading package lists... Done
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> E: Couldn't find package alsamixer
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:~$
[03:24] <EasterSunshine> hey ppl recommend against running raid without the mirror/backup drive, isn't that the same risk as running thru ide?
[03:24] <raggedgentleman> raggedgentleman@wastedspace:~ $ /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox//firefox-bin
[03:24] <raggedgentleman> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox//firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:24] <raggedgentleman> raggedgentleman@wastedspace:~ $
[03:24] <geppy> thezombiehunter: please don't post so much, it's obnoxious
[03:24] <geppy> *sigh*
[03:24] <puol> ............
[03:24] <Ice9> lol
[03:24] <EasterSunshine> !pastebin
[03:24] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:24] <thezombiehunter> geppy: sorry, so what do i do
[03:24] <umboto> hey what program would you guys recommend for ripping my audio cds with lame?
[03:24] <geppy> umboto: Sound-Juicer
[03:25] <nariman> what does "bash" command do?
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> umboto: lame
[03:25] <geppy> umboto: Install 'gstreamer0.8-plugins' first
[03:25] <DVSoftware> Razor-X, which filesystem
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> nariman: it opens a bash shell
[03:25] <umboto> okay
[03:25] <geppy> nariman: bash is the shell, that just opens the shell
[03:25] <muffin_> i get following wine error message:regedit: Can't export. Registry key 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall' does not exist!
[03:25] <nariman> whats a shell?
[03:25] <geppy> thezombiehunter: I guess you should already have it
[03:25] <thezombiehunter> alright
[03:25] <geppy> nariman: A terminal, console, whatever
[03:25] <aru> umboto: Applications > Sound and Video > Sound Juicer
[03:25] <Varanger> hi... I've got a CHM file... how can I open under Ubuntu?
[03:25] <nariman> mhm
[03:25] <thezombiehunter> and i do have it
[03:25] <thezombiehunter> so what do i do now?
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> nariman: its that black screen that interprets what you type in and does stuff
[03:25] <puol> use xchm
[03:26] <Varanger> puol: Thanks!
[03:26] <thezombiehunter> geppy: what do i do to enable sound when in the mixer
[03:26] <geppy> thezombiehunter: move them up ;)
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> nariman: its what you type ls and cd ~ and sh and bash and stuff into
[03:26] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:26] <umboto> aru, how i set it up with lame?
[03:26] <thezombiehunter> Geppy: how?
[03:26] <dech> thezombiehunter or press m to unmute/mute
[03:26] <dech> use up and down arros
[03:26] <umboto> it only gives me wav and vorbis
[03:26] <dech> arrows*
[03:26] <umboto> and flac
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> do i want the master off?
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> couse its up all the way
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> and master was on
[03:27] <Dime> how do i check my dns?
[03:27] <umboto> do i rip them as wav then use lame to encode them?
[03:27] <umboto> ??
[03:27] <geppy> thezombiehunter: put everything up, see what works
[03:27] <EasterSunshine> dime: what do you mean by check dns?
[03:27] <reiki> is there a gnome ftp app? something graphical rather than CLine?
[03:27] <thezombiehunter> geppy: 3 of em wont go up at all
[03:27] <umboto> reiki,  gftp
[03:27] <geppy> thezombiehunter: That's rather unfortunate.
[03:27] <Dime> my isps dns
[03:27] <reiki> okies
[03:27] <reiki> thanks
[03:28] <umboto> np
[03:28] <geppy> As entertaining as trying to find an answer in here is... I'm off to play Doom3.
[03:28] <thezombiehunter> geppy: so im guessing i have to do somthing else lol
[03:28] <EasterSunshine> dime: type in `host <hostname>` and if an ip comes up, its working
[03:28] <geppy> thezombiehunter: just play with it
[03:28] <Madpilot> reiki: gFTP, but it's pretty lousy...
[03:28] <reiki> grrrrr... wanted a graphic ssh/sftp prog
[03:29] <umboto> i perfer using ftp command in console itself
[03:29] <reiki> sftp more important than ssh at this point
[03:29] <EasterSunshine> can gnome run konqeuror? i heard something about gnome being able to handle kde apps
[03:29] <reiki> umboto: I looking for EASY to use for non-techies.
[03:29] <puol> of course easter
[03:29] <skalpel> is there anyway yo rip mp3's in ubuntu?
[03:29] <misfit_toy> EasterSunshine, you can run kde apps under gnome but you need all the KDE lib's installed
[03:29] <umboto> skalpel,  they said use sound juicer
[03:30] <umboto> im assuming use sound juicer to wav then wav to mp3 with lame
[03:30] <misfit_toy> skalpel, soundjuicer
[03:30] <umboto> im gonna try it out
[03:30] <skalpel> umboto: it does not come with an mp3 encoder and i cannot find the gstreamer-lame package anywhere in the repositories
[03:30] <peaker> I manually installed alsa because the package didn't have the azx driver in it (via make make install)
[03:30] <misfit_toy> skalpel, update your repos
[03:30] <Madpilot> I think you can refit SoundJuicer to rip mp3 rather than ogg - check the forums or wiki
[03:30] <peaker> Now I can't use MAKEDEV to make the devices
[03:30] <peaker> I think it has something to do with hotplug, any idea?
[03:30] <misfit_toy> soundjuicer will rip to whatever you have codecs for
[03:31] <thezombiehunter> after i change the alsamixer do i have to re logon?
[03:31] <nightcrawler> how do i uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[03:31] <skalpel> misfit_toy: okay
[03:31] <misfit_toy> thezombiehunter, no
[03:31] <thezombiehunter> then it did not work lol
[03:31] <Madpilot> misfit_toy: ah, OK. never bothered with ripping mp3, I'm just ripping to .ogg. thanks for the info though
[03:31] <misfit_toy> nightcrawler, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <Tzi> Hi =)
[03:32] <puol> hi
[03:32] <darkheart> Anyone have trouble with firefox only loading half of a flash page? When I go to www.speedtv.com half the page is greyed out..
[03:32] <misfit_toy> high
[03:32] <Tzi> Does anyone know where I can get xev in Breezy?  (I know, we shouldn't be using it yet, but I was having memory problems in Hoary..)
[03:32] <skalpel> misfit_toy: thank you, that worked.
[03:32] <misfit_toy> skalpel, cool
[03:32] <hubsi> re genossen :D
[03:32] <Tzi> darkheart: You haven't applied that download-in-parallel thing have you?
[03:32] <thezombiehunter> i get this message when i start the desktop
[03:32] <darkheart> Tzi Don't think so, I'm not sure what that is =)
[03:33] <muffin_> how do i install DCOM98.EXE with wine???
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> SOUND server informational message:
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> error while initializing the sound driver:
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> device: defult cant be opend for playback (no such file or directory)
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> the sound server will continue using the null output device..
[03:33] <skalpel> can someone tell me what to do about this error?
[03:33] <thezombiehunter> (sorry for long message)
[03:33] <Madpilot> !paste
[03:33] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:33] <raggedgentleman> i'm having a problem updating with apt-get
[03:33] <skalpel>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[03:34] <thezombiehunter> but really. cam you tell me what to do?
[03:34] <raggedgentleman> im using warty and it can't download from the backports group
[03:34] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Do you have a /dev/dsp?
[03:34] <raggedgentleman> and i get a 403 forbidden
[03:34] <thezombiehunter> ill look
[03:35] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:35] <skalpel> can someoen tell me what to do about this error? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:35] <skalpel>   gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[03:35] <skalpel> E: Broken packages
[03:35] <raggedgentleman> and i cant use firefox to look for help online
[03:35] <thezombiehunter> tzi: its the dsp a folder?
[03:35] <raggedgentleman> im about to reinstall...
[03:35] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: Are you using a mirror?
[03:35] <speel> any programers in here?
[03:35] <peaker> Tzi: I don't have one and I'm struggling with MAKEDEV which wouldn't create it :(  I found something in google about udev making MAKEDEV not work because there are no "hotplug events", but I remember it used to be so much simpler in the past..
[03:35] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: For backports..
[03:35] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, i dont know...
[03:36] <Tzi> peaker: You don't have a /dev/dsp, you mean?
[03:36] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: the backport url changed a while ago
[03:36] <Madpilot> !backport
[03:36] <ubotu> hmm... backport is see !backports
[03:36] <Tzi> Yep
[03:36] <Madpilot> !backports
[03:36] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:36] <peaker> Tzi: Right, not the alsa one either.. :-(
[03:36] <thezombiehunter> tzi: i dont see anything
[03:36] <peaker> tzi: What's supposed to mknod these in ubuntu?
[03:36] <thezombiehunter> tzi: i do have dev thou
[03:36] <Mot> can someone help me install ubuntu
[03:36] <raggedgentleman> could you tell me what is the new one?
[03:37] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: ubotu's message used to say - search the wiki for it
[03:37] <thezombiehunter> Mot: kinda busy, but what do you need?
[03:37] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Try sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3
[03:37] <Mot> i was wondering
[03:37] <Mot> once you burn the cd
[03:37] <peaker> Tzi: Why mknod directly works but MAKEDEV which does exactly that has no effect?
[03:37] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Don't know why it's not there.. But that may fix things.. I'm not quite sure how esd grabs the soundcard...
[03:37] <Mot> you just leave it in ur drive
[03:37] <Mot> ?
[03:37] <Mot> and then on the reboot
[03:37] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot, well durring the upgrade it killed my firefox
[03:37] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:37] <Mot> itll install ?
[03:37] <Tzi> peaker: Not sure... makedev is a script, which I assume uses mknod..
[03:37] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot, thank you sir
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> Tzi: correct
[03:38] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: nvm i guess i missed it it says the file exists
[03:38] <peaker> Tzi: Exactly, I even strace -f'd it, and it calls mknod, but nothing is created(!) I am still puzzled
[03:38] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: no problem; as to Firefox, I think there was a problem with it & backports... I don't use FF myself though
[03:38] <peaker> Tzi: If I call mknod myself, it works.. if I run MAKEDEV as non-admin, it complains about privelege to mknod, as if someone's rm'ing MAKEDEV's nodes immediately after it creates them
[03:38] <muffin_> how do i install DCOM98.EXE with wine???
[03:38] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i got the soundcard to work in suse 9.3 pro using ALSACONFIG
[03:39] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot, what are you using?
[03:39] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Okay.. Do you know if the soundcard is working at all at the moment?
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: why
[03:39] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: Opera 8.02 - www.opera.com/download
[03:39] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: it works fine on windows, im on duel boot right now
[03:39] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Oh, I mean in Linux..
[03:39] <muffin_> HrdwrBoB, windows seems to need it in the base system
[03:39] <raggedgentleman> Madpilot,  ah but cant get there with out the browser =o)
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: .. for what reason
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: what are you trying to achieve
[03:40] <Ice9> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:40] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: no nothing in linux period
[03:40] <muffin_> wine tool lists the file in the base setup
[03:40] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Can you for example do a cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ? (turn down your speakers first)
[03:40] <Madpilot> raggedgentleman: heh. sorry... I can't remember what the fix for FF was
[03:40] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: a what//
[03:40] <muffin_> HrdwrBoB, explorer needs that file to be installed
[03:40] <biscuit_> ubotu
[03:41] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Type it in a terminal.. It'll chuck random data onto your soundcard, just to see if it's working..
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: why are you running explorer in wine
[03:41] <regeya> rofflecopters
[03:41] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: type this? cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp nothing happens
[03:41] <muffin_> HrdwrBoB, its in the base setup of wine tool
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: you need to tell me what you want to achieve not specufuc technical questions
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> specific
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> muffin_: ?
[03:41] <biscuit_> How do I get my Realtek Hi Def Audio card to work in ubuntu
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> I just ran apt-get install wine
[03:42] <muffin_> i want to complete the wine insallation
[03:42] <HrdwrBoB> and wine worked
[03:42] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Can you hear anything coming through the speakers? Does it give any errors?
[03:42] <regeya> indeed, same here.
[03:42] <thezombiehunter> no
[03:42] <thezombiehunter> no errors
[03:42] <thezombiehunter> no sound
[03:43] <Tzi> So I guess the soundcard's working..Do you have a working mixer? Just see what the volume's set to
[03:43] <regeya> if you need to set up wine after installation and hate editing rc files, try 'winecfg'
[03:43] <biscuit_> How do you open the mixer
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> if it's a soundblaster audigy
[03:43] <Ice9> how do I edit xorg?
[03:43] <biscuit_> Whats the term command
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> the volume is muted
[03:43] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i got alsamixer set up and unmuted do i need to get a mixer
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> !audigy
[03:43] <ubotu> audigy is, like, muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[03:43] <thezombiehunter> its Sound Blaster 24 bit live
[03:43] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Are you in gnome now?  Just double-click on the volume control on the panel..
[03:43] <biscuit_> How do you set up alsamixer in ubuntu
[03:43] <thezombiehunter> no im in Kubuntu
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> biscuit_: open a terminal
[03:44] <Ice9> !xorg
[03:44] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> run alsamixer
[03:44] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Ah.. Does it have a mixer?
[03:44] <skalpel> can someone help me with installing gstreamer0.8-lame?
[03:44] <skalpel> it says i have dependency problams between packages
[03:44] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i got alsamixer...it came with system, but i DO NOT have the real alsa i think
[03:44] <raggedgentleman> could someome tellme what the new backports repository is please =o)
[03:45] <peaker> Arrrrrrrrg udev sucks!!! What was wrong with normal mknod'd devices ?  It used to be simple and now it takes hours to get a node to be created :(  What advantages are there at all?
[03:45] <Tzi> !backports
[03:45] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:45] <biscuit_> HrdwrBob: It says command not found
[03:45] <Tzi> raggedgentleman:  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:45] <skalpel> would someone like to tell me what this meanns? gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[03:45] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: can i use a sudo apt-get install command for the alsa?
[03:46] <HrdwrBoB> biscuit_: alsamixer is installed by default
[03:46] <regeya> !udev
[03:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, regeya
[03:46] <regeya> lol
[03:46] <thezombiehunter> then why wont my sound card work
[03:46] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Alsa will already be there.. It comes with k/ubuntu..
[03:46] <bur[n] er> anyone know what to do if I get a X_OpenFont error?
[03:46] <HrdwrBoB> alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer
[03:46] <regeya> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:46] <thezombiehunter> ?
[03:46] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:47] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: i know the only way i got it to work on suse was saying alsaconfig
[03:47] <nxv_> hi, i have trouble running topcoders learning area
[03:47] <nxv_> can somebody test if this works for him/her?
[03:47] <nxv_> javaws http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletGoogle.jnlp
[03:47] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: is there a guide for this
[03:48] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Apart from Google, not that i know of
[03:48] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Have you searched for your soundcard on ubuntuforums?
[03:48] <biscuit_> HrdwrBoB: Is says that function snd_ctl_open failed for default
[03:48] <tristanmike> Hi all
[03:48] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Chances are, it's already working
[03:48] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: u know iv made about 3 posts about it and they dont even reply. no i did serch for no sound...nothing i needed.
[03:48] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: then why wont it work
[03:49] <snorks> how do i check what is running? or how do i kill cedega?
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: It's probably just been stolen by one of the sound servers or something
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Is esd running?
[03:49] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: how do i find out lol
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Cos if it is, it probably should be killed to allow kde's sound server to have a go..
[03:49] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Just try 'killall esd'
[03:49] <dech> thezombiehunter is your soundcard an audigy ?
[03:49] <thezombiehunter> sound blaster 24 bit live
[03:50] <zblach> hi
[03:50] <zblach> anyone here know how to set up a wireless card?
[03:50] <dech> ok type
[03:50] <dech> alsamixer
[03:50] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: esd: no process killed
[03:50] <Tzi> zblach: What kind of wireless card?
[03:50] <thezombiehunter> dech: what?
[03:50] <dech> in rpompt
[03:50] <dech> alsamixer
[03:50] <dech> prompt*
[03:51] <thezombiehunter> dech: i did that alredy
[03:51] <dech> Ok
[03:51] <thezombiehunter> dech: didint help
[03:51] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: sudo fuser /dev/snd/pcm*
[03:51] <dech> ok
[03:51] <dech> did you unmute master and turn it up
[03:51] <dech> and also
[03:51] <thezombiehunter> yea
[03:51] <dech> 3rd last one
[03:51] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: fuser -v actually
[03:52] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, ubuntuforums.org is hosting the backport repository??
[03:52] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: I think it used to but not any more.. There are mirrors now
[03:52] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, cuz i cant accaully do any web browsing from here
[03:52] <thezombiehunter> nothing happend
[03:52] <Tzi> raggedgentleman: Ahh okay.. Hang on, lemme get you a mirror
[03:52] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: nothing
[03:52] <tristanmike> sorry to jump in, but there is quite a lenghty thread on ubuntu forums about the soundblaster 24 bit cards
[03:52] <Tzi> deb  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:52] <Tzi> deb  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:52] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, thanks a lot
[03:52] <Mot> anyone know BIOS settings
[03:53] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Okay, so nothing is using the soundcard.. Hmm...
[03:53] <Tzi> tristanmike: Hmm, that sounds helpful =)
[03:53] <snorks> How do I check what apps are running?
[03:53] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Have you seen that thread?
[03:53] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, wait im stuck in warty accually =o)
[03:53] <tristanmike> Tzi: here it is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit
[03:54] <snorks> where do i find the ID if i want to kill something?
[03:54] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[03:54] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: dont think so
[03:54] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: ill get back to you
[03:54] <oceandead> im never buying another creative product
[03:54] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter: have you seen this thread yet?? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit
[03:54] <oceandead> everrrrr
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> yea
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> im trying it now thou
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> lol
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> can somone help mot
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> none of the linux works for him
[03:55] <thezombiehunter> i think hes not burning it as a ISO image
[03:55] <tristanmike> Mot: what's your problem
[03:56] <Mot> back
[03:56] <Mot> ok
[03:56] <snorks> How do I check what apps are currently running? I want to kill something, but I don't know how
[03:56] <raggedgentleman> Tzi, thanks for the mirror!
[03:57] <Mot> tristan: i think there is something wrong with my bios
[03:57] <Mot> but i dont know what
[03:57] <thezombiehunter> Mot: make sure ur burning it right, theres nothing wrong with ur os trust me on that
[03:57] <skalpel> can someone telol me how to send a broadcast message to a user logged into my computer?
[03:57] <Mot> it wont load cds at the beginning
[03:57] <tristanmike> snorks: you can try system moniter
[03:57] <tristanmike> *monitor
[03:57] <geneo93> sudo pidof (app)
[03:58] <thezombiehunter> mot: the same thing happend to me, u need a good burning program that can burn ISO images...but i dont know which one now lol
[03:58] <Mot> roxio does  burn iso's
[03:58] <oceandead>  make sure burning it right (in nero - "file" > "burn image...")
[03:58] <thezombiehunter> Mot: if all else fails, ask somone to send u a ubuntu CD
[03:58] <oceandead> then make sure bios is set to boot from cd first
[03:59] <Mot> no but before i tried using redhat and that didnt work but that was a cd that came with a redhat guide
[03:59] <tristanmike> Mot: yes, like oceandead said, are you set to boot from CD in the BIOS
[03:59] <Mot> i tried to set it like that
[03:59] <Mot> but still it doesnt work
[03:59] <Mot> you go to boot order
[03:59] <biscuit_> Ok, I did sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 and it worked fine, but then when I tried to use alsamixer, it gave me still : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:59] <Mot> than i put   boot from usb or cd rom first i think
[03:59] <Mot> it was the only thing that said cd in it
[03:59] <tristanmike> Mot: Boot order, Floppy/CD/CD
[03:59] <oceandead> Mot, when you put the cd in the drive and browse the contents in a file manager...is there only one file (a .iso)?
[04:00] <ice_1963> red hat :0(-
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: sudo fuser /dev/snd/pcm*
[04:00] <Mot> when i put the cd in the drive
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1379
[04:00] <Mot> while the comp is already on, a folder comes up
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: it fails on 3ed step
[04:00] <Mot> but when i boot it up wiith the cd already in nothing happens
[04:00] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa-source, is not installed
[04:00] <zblach> Tzi: A Linksys ... lemme look it up
[04:01] <oceandead> bios...
[04:01] <Mot> ?
[04:01] <Mot> i tried to fix my bios
[04:01] <zblach> Tzi, a Wireless-G WMP54G
[04:01] <Mot> but nothing changed
[04:01] <Mot> same thing
[04:01] <oceandead> did you save the changes?
[04:01] <thezombiehunter> hey anyone know how to add more port forwarding on linksys...its gettin annoying
[04:01] <Mot> its been saved
[04:01] <bjweeks> yes
[04:01] <Mot> when i go to it'
[04:01] <zblach> thezombiehunter, a linksys router?
[04:01] <Mot> its already in the right order
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> zblach: yea
[04:02] <oceandead> linksys router?
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> yes
[04:02] <Mot> thezombiehunter: www.portforward.com
[04:02] <bjweeks> no
[04:02] <bjweeks> he want more
[04:02] <tristanmike> Mot: Like oceandead asked, if you open the cd, do you have just one file?
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> im out of port range forwarding
[04:02] <bjweeks> you should try a open source firmwere
[04:02] <bjweeks> like ddwrt
[04:02] <thezombiehunter> were do i get it
[04:02] <Mot> no
[04:02] <bjweeks> 1 sec
[04:02] <Mot> one i open the cd
[04:02] <Mot> i have folders
[04:02] <oceandead> depends what router
[04:03] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter: I have a linksys router
[04:03] <zblach> same
[04:03] <Mot> when*
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> cool
[04:03] <oceandead> which model i mean
[04:03] <zblach> but i'm having trouble with my wireless card
[04:03] <bjweeks> lol
[04:03] <biscuit_> My alsamixer won't open and i did a modprobe?
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> 3rd Step - This will allow you to configure the alsa source.
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> 
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> 
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> Quote:
[04:03] <thezombiehunter>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, and say no to PnP, yes to debug, and choose the ca0106 driver it fao;s
[04:03] <Concord_Dawn> zblach, what model?
[04:03] <oceandead> openwrt, hyperwrt, ddwrt, etc etc
[04:03] <bjweeks> ^^^ what he said
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> that fails
[04:03] <thezombiehunter> the 3ed step
[04:03] <biscuit_> Oh
[04:03] <oceandead> i havent tried em yet
[04:03] <biscuit_> I configured it ok
[04:03] <bjweeks> i love em
[04:04] <bjweeks> openwrt is hard to use tho
[04:04] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with installing a JSP container for Apache2?
[04:04] <Mot> tristan is it supposed to be one file?
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> how the heck do i get my sound card to run Tzi u still here
[04:04] <oceandead> but im annoyed that i cant set up decent rules
[04:04] <Mot> mine isnt one file
[04:04] <tristanmike> Mot: no, what kind of harddrive? IDE, SATA, RAID?
[04:04] <oceandead> and that with firewall and loggin enabled ...nothing incoming gets logged...wtf
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> 3rd Step - This will allow you to configure the alsa source.
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> 
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> 
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> Quote:
[04:04] <thezombiehunter>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, and say no to PnP, yes to debug, and choose the ca0106 driver
[04:04] <Mot> uhmmmmmmm
[04:04] <biscuit_> thezombiehunter: What kind of card?
[04:04] <Mot> ide i tihnk
[04:04] <thezombiehunter> sound blaster 24bit live
[04:05] <tristanmike> Mot: that shouldn't be the issue then
[04:05] <biscuit_> Hmmmm
[04:05] <thezombiehunter> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit im trying that
[04:05] <Concord_Dawn> thezombiehunter, don't paste that again.
[04:05] <Concord_Dawn> paste in the pastebin.
[04:05] <Syco54645> i was wondering if there is a way that i can finalize a dvd that i made with a standalone one at the library at my uni.  since the library is closed tonight, i was wondering if there would be a way that i can safely finalize the dvd-rw disc so that i can read it in my drive.  i would prefer if it were with a command line tool because my drive is dead and i have been using the livecd for some time now
[04:05] <tristanmike> Mot: by chance, have you tried to burn the cd at a slower speed?
[04:05] <Mot> no
[04:05] <thezombiehunter> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa-source, is not installed
[04:05] <thezombiehunter>  thats what it says on the 3ed step
[04:05] <bjweeks> then isstall it
[04:05] <bjweeks> duh?
[04:05] <Mot> why does the burn speed matter?
[04:05] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[04:06] <bjweeks> ^gay
[04:06] <thezombiehunter> well were do i get it lol
[04:06] <bjweeks> sudo apt-get install alsa-source
[04:06] <oceandead> ha
[04:06] <bjweeks> yes
[04:06] <PurpleMotion> bjweeks:  just out of idle curiosity, whats gay?
[04:06] <Mot> what burner do you guys use.. nero?
[04:06] <bjweeks> haha nero on ubuntu
[04:06] <thezombiehunter> its alredy there
[04:07] <thezombiehunter> thats why im going nuts here
[04:07] <oceandead> gnomebaker
[04:07] <zblach> Concord_Dawn, WMP54G
[04:07] <biscuit_> Do you have the headers thezombiehunter
[04:07] <tristanmike> Mot: Nero should be fine, but for ISO's in windows, I use Alcohol 120%
[04:07] <Mot> ok ill try that brb
[04:07] <oceandead> windows ...nero
[04:07] <Concord_Dawn> !tell zblach about ndiswrapper
[04:07] <zblach> tristanmike, try ISOBuster
[04:07] <Mot> where can i get  Alcohol 120%
[04:07] <thezombiehunter> sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source kernel-package i downloaded that from sudo
[04:07] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with installing a JSP container for Apache2?
[04:07] <biscuit_> ohh ok
[04:07] <bjweeks> You have to pay for it
[04:07] <Concord_Dawn> !jsp
[04:07] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[04:07] <tristanmike> zblach, does ISOBuster give me a virtual drive?
[04:07] <zblach> tristanmike, no
[04:07] <PurpleMotion> jsp = java server pages
[04:08] <biscuit_> ISOBuster just kinda displays everything inside the iso and asks if you want to extrract it or not
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, yes.
[04:08] <tristanmike> zblach, that's why I like Alcohol, so I can just mount my ISO's
[04:08] <PurpleMotion> last i checked it's tomcat native and available as an apache mod, right?
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> I need a container for them in Apache.
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> nfi
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> there's a mod-jk2 in the repos.
[04:08] <thezombiehunter> biscuit_: sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source kernel-package
[04:08] <bjweeks> But 120% is not free
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> but it looks like I need tomcat4 installed
[04:08] <Concord_Dawn> which I don't have in the repos.
[04:08] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  have you considered tomcat?
[04:09] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, is there a repo for it?
[04:09] <tristanmike> ......well, alcohol120% was......
[04:09] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  tomcat's available, holdon, ill dig it up
[04:09] <bjweeks> but that just for mounting right?
[04:09] <tristanmike> nevermind, lol
[04:09] <peaker> if a snd-X driver loads successfully, does it mean I really have the driver's supported hardware, or will it work even if I dont have such hardware?
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> hrmmm
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> it appears there isnt
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> wtf
[04:10] <crompton> i have an amd turion processor in my laptop, it is 64-bit, would it be wise of me to install the 64-bit ubuntu or keep with the 32-bit?
[04:10] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[04:10] <Concord_Dawn> that's what I thought.
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> holdon man, ill find it
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> or ill buuld you a deb
[04:10] <PurpleMotion> build
[04:10] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Sorry, got sidetracked =)
[04:11] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Hmm..
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> you know you can build a .deb file from any source package
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> "_
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> no
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> I didn't.
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> yeah you can
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> heh
[04:11] <PurpleMotion> lemme find you a tutorial on that
[04:12] <PurpleMotion> then you can solve your own problem :) and perhaps you'll contribute it to the community
[04:12] <Tzi> zblach: How's it going?  I got sidetracked =)
[04:12] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell me about yourself
[04:12] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: nvm its working
[04:13] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: by working i mean i got past 3ed step
[04:13] <milksteak> hmmmm
[04:13] <milksteak> Concord Dawn
[04:13] <milksteak> good band
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> can't find any of their songs though
[04:13] <milksteak> heh
[04:13] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: pm Alsa Source do i need to press No
[04:13] <milksteak> I have a few albums
[04:13] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: That's a start.. I'm still not convinced that alsa isn't already setup.. =)
[04:13] <milksteak> you from NZ
[04:13] <milksteak> ?
[04:13] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: I'm not sure..
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  watch ubotu
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> !pbuilder
[04:14] <ubotu> methinks pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> TziL seting up..
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver$ cd .. && ls *.deb
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> ls: *.deb: No such file or directory
[04:14] <thezombiehunter> um..
[04:14] <skalpel> can someone tell me what this means? root     19568  0.0  0.2  14456   680 ?        Ss   20:29   0:00 sshd: bonnie [priv] 
[04:14] <skalpel> bonnie   19571  0.0  0.4  14760  1092 ?        S    20:29   0:01 sshd: bonnie@notty
[04:14] <PurpleMotion> but that might even be a little more than you need
[04:14] <peaker> it seems sound support is the #1 ubuntu issue isn't it?
[04:14] <reiki> is there an app that shows a graphic representation of disk space used?
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  mine works fine
[04:15] <darkheart> peaker Mine works fine as well.
[04:15] <Concord_Dawn> thanks PurpleMotion
[04:15] <remyforbes777>   is there a amd 64 bit version of Debian?
[04:15] <remyforbes777> that works?
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> yes
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> well
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> sorta
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> heh
[04:15] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: damn it its messin up
[04:15] <cafuego> skalpel: means bonnie logged in via ssh
[04:15] <remyforbes777> sorta?
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> reiki: konqueror has a file size view that shows files and folders in a size proportional to how much space they take up
[04:15] <PurpleMotion> i mean it mostly works
[04:16] <cafuego> skalpel: 'last -d bonnie'
[04:16] <PurpleMotion> and they're adding more to it every day
[04:16] <EasterSunshine> reiki: if that is what you are looking for, it helps to find what is taking up most of the room in any part of your local filesystems
[04:16] <reiki> EasterSunshine: konqueror = KDE?
[04:16] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: were the heck is my system preferences Multimedia system selectors in Kubuntu
[04:16] <peaker> PurpleMotion, darkheart: I've spent the last many hours trying to get mine to work :-(  took me a lot of time to realize how udev mutilated /dev into a complex beast, and I cant get an alsa driver to recognize my card despite the docs saying it should :(
[04:16] <skabble> cafuego, should the user be root? or is that just part of the whole ubuntu thing
[04:16] <Tzi> thezombiehunter: Somewhere in kcontrol, I assume =)
[04:16] <remyforbes777> hmmmm
[04:16] <EasterSunshine> reiki: yes konqueror is part of kde, anything that starts with k is usually kde
[04:16] <remyforbes777> i just bought a new amd turion lap
[04:17] <remyforbes777> wanted to get a 64 bit distro on there
[04:17] <cafuego> skabble: sshd needs to be root so it can 1) listen on port 22 and 2) check the password.
[04:17] <reiki> EasterSunshine: : anything for gnome?
[04:17] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  are you loading the right module for your soundcard?
[04:17] <milksteak> hmmm
[04:17] <skabble> cafuego, thank you very much. what do pts/1,2,3 etc mean?
[04:17] <milksteak> Konqueror runs on Gnome
[04:17] <cafuego> skabble: Do you see how pid 19571 is NOT root?
[04:17] <milksteak> as far as I know
[04:17] <reiki> ahh... okies
[04:17] <remyforbes777> wanted it to be debian based
[04:17] <EasterSunshine> reiki: you can run konqueror on gnome but you'll have to install all the kde libs. otherwise, i have never used gnome so i don't know
[04:17] <peaker> PurpleMotion: some googling says that for my card (Intel high definition) needs the snd-azx module.. I load it successfully but the dev files say no such device
[04:17] <skabble> cafuego, yeah, i am just wondering if they are connected at all
[04:17] <PurpleMotion> milksteak:  and xp runs on a p-2 233, that doesnt mean you should do it
[04:17] <thezombiehunter> Tzi: is there a way to uninstall all that then reinstall?
[04:17] <remyforbes777> i tried Ubuntu amd 64 bit but it freezes when booting
[04:18] <cafuego> skabble: 'ps auxww | grep bonnie'
[04:18] <peaker> PurpleMotion: dmesg seems to mention that azx loaded without finding any hardware, but its hardly a readable message so I am not sure of that
[04:18] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  show me the message
[04:19] <peaker> ALSA /usr/src/deb/alsa-driver-1.0.8/pci/azx/hda_codec.c:416:hda_codec: no AFG node found
[04:19] <peaker> ALSA /usr/src/deb/alsa-driver-1.0.8/pci/azx/azx.c:782:azx: no codecs initialized
[04:19] <skabble> cafuego, root     19568  0.0  0.2  14456   680 ?        Ss   20:29   0:00 sshd: bonnie [priv] 
[04:19] <skabble> bonnie   19571  0.0  0.4  14760  1092 ?        S    20:29   0:02 sshd: bonnie@notty
[04:19] <skabble> bonnie   19572  0.0  0.3   3348   860 ?        Ss   20:29   0:00 /usr/lib/sftp-server
[04:19] <cafuego> skabble: Ah, bonnie is copying data via sftp
[04:20] <peaker> PurpleMotion: The ubuntu alsa deb did not come with azx at all I had to apt-get source and build it myself... debian/rules binary doesn't seem to build any driver, so I had to resort to using configure/make/make-install
[04:20] <skalpel> cafuego, i see that :)
[04:20] <cafuego> skalpel: is bonnie a user you created, who is allwed to log in?
[04:20] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  that doesnt tell me anything about hardware, that tells me that no codecs are present on your syste,.. try: apt-get source -b package-name
[04:20] <skapple> yes, she is
[04:20] <cafuego> skalpel: no problems then
[04:20] <PurpleMotion> it will auto-build the package after downloading
[04:21] <PurpleMotion> i had the same problem with the mplayer source, and thats how i fixed it
[04:21] <Mot> should i get  Alcohol 120% or 50%
[04:21] <peaker> PurpleMotion: But codecs in this context probably means codecs required to communicate with the hardware, doesn't it?
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> i would imagine
[04:22] <ray_> has anyone installed the ati drivers from their site?
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> try building it as i said :)
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> it might work
[04:22] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> Ice9:  watch ubotu
[04:22] <peaker> PurpleMotion: And after installing snd-azx into kernel, /dev/asound and /dev/dsp (after installing snd-pcm-oss too ofcourse) still cause "no such device" so I assume snd-azx failed to find the hardware
[04:22] <ray_> Ice9, thats the old one huh
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> !ati
[04:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:22] <peaker> PurpleMotion: ya I will thanks
[04:22] <PurpleMotion> i got a 9250 and it runs great
[04:23] <ray_> PurpleMotion, with fglrx?
[04:23] <Ice9> I've tried that, it doesn't work
[04:23] <PurpleMotion> yessir
[04:23] <Ice9> I've done so many thigns lol
[04:23] <skapple> how do i enable multiple connections on my computer?
[04:23] <PurpleMotion> fglrx                 246716  7
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> then you're missing a step, plain and simple
[04:24] <ray_> Ice9, did you.....apt-get install fglrx....then change xorg.conf...only that one part
[04:24] <Ice9> if thats what the guide says..
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> you also have to load the fglrx module and put it in /etc/modules.conf
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> if you followed the guide, it would work.
[04:24] <Ice9> :/
[04:24] <ray_> PurpleMotion, i didnt have to.......? weird
[04:24] <PurpleMotion> ray_:  I did
[04:25] <ray_> brb
[04:25] <StrikeForce1> #fedora-mktg
[04:25] <Chiacomo> I've got some total noob questions... Anyone up for it?
[04:25] <StrikeForce1> woops
[04:25] <peaker> PurpleMotion: It seems that apt-get -b source  simply runs debian/rules binary, it doesn't build any drivers :-(
[04:25] <EasterSunshine> chiacomo: just ask. that's what we're here for
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> ray_, Ice9: i originally built and installed the latest at drivers from ati's package. The i saw the wiki, and decided to try it. I got it to work that way as well.. but I have since reinstalled the ati drivers because they are a little more current and considerably faster
[04:26] <Chiacomo> EasterSunshine: Thanks...
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  ah.. you're beyond my scope, im afraid.. but someone here surely can help you, just stick around and toss your question every so often till soemone who knows how to fix it sees it
[04:27] <peaker> PurpleMotion: I'll just not use a deb for this for now (Yeah its messy but it should work :)  I'll try alsa 0.9 from source and see if it works better
[04:27] <Chiacomo> A good friend of mine recomended kubuntu for a desktop/general computing machine at my home (rather than slackware)... I'd never considered linux as a desktop operating system (for home use)... Seems very cool... I'm having trouble with sound.
[04:27] <PurpleMotion> it's not so messy :)
[04:27] <PurpleMotion> I don't mind installing from source at all
[04:27] <Chiacomo> Now, I'm trying this out on a terribly old Dell GX1so I'm not surprised I have not sound... Any clues on drivers, etc? Where should I start?
[04:28] <thezombiehunter_> Tzi: bash: alsa-modules-2.6.10-4-k7_1.0.8-4ubuntu1_i386.deb: command not found
[04:28] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  show me the output of: lsmod | grep snd
[04:28] <biscuit__> Chiacomo: What kinda card
[04:28] <Chiacomo> ... the "card" is probably on-board... Rather than a sepereate card.
[04:29] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter_:Its either a typo or you may have to"dig-in" to find the package
[04:29] <biscuit__> Oh ok
[04:29] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  also show me the output of: dmesg | grep -i audio
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:/usr/src/modules$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install):
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_>  *.deb
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> thezombiehunter@thezombiehunter:/usr/src/modules$
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> right
[04:29] <thezombiehunter_> sould i just reinstall linux?
[04:29] <biscuit__> Chiacomo: Do you have an Intel Motherboard
[04:30] <Chiacomo> biscuit__: Yeah, I'm sure...
[04:30] <biscuit__> Ok
[04:30] <PurpleMotion> thezombiehunter:  no, you should do: apt-get -f install
[04:30] <thezombiehunter_> what is it
[04:30] <biscuit__> Chiacomo: I have one too, but i just can't get alsaconf or alsamixer to open
[04:30] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  have you seen anything i have said to you?
[04:30] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Yeah...
[04:30] <peaker> PurpleMotion: You're a fan of Future Crew, btw? :)
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> could you please show me the output of those two commands?
[04:31] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Nothing from either grep... Hrm... I suppose that's bad.
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  means your onboard sound is disabled, try going into the bios and checking to see if it's not disabled there.
[04:31] <skapple> why can't i make multiple ssh connections on my computer
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  no, but that's where i got the name
[04:31] <Chiacomo> Hrm... Rebooting...
[04:31] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: So, should detect something if sound is turned on, right?
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> should, yeah
[04:32] <Chiacomo> Great.. Back in a few...
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> might have to 'reset configuration data' in your bios
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> hope he saw that
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> could have saved him a reboot
[04:32] <biscuit__> PurpleMotion: Can I give you my output onthat first thing you said, the second won't give anything out.
[04:32] <thezombiehunter_>  apt-get -f install
[04:32] <thezombiehunter_> what is that
[04:32] <PurpleMotion> yeah, do it in msg
[04:33] <PurpleMotion> thezombiehunter:  it fixes broken installs
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> thks
[04:33] <PurpleMotion> biscuit__:  regular msg please
[04:33] <biscuit__> Ummmm
[04:33] <OCA|> Does the latest Ubuntu live cd support writing to NTFS disks? And is NTFS writing safe yet? (I remember in the past it was dangerous at best)
[04:33] <biscuit__> How do i do that :-/
[04:33] <dabaR> Greetings...
[04:33] <miguel> can someone tell me a good divx player for ubuntu plz?
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_>  sudo  apt-get -f install
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:33] <thezombiehunter_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
[04:33] <biscuit__> Im new with IRC ever since moving to Windows
[04:33] <zerboxx> Is anyone here very comfortable with perl programming?
[04:34] <i4> PurpleMotion: is there a way to enable multiple ssh conenctions on my computer/
[04:34] <i4> ?
[04:34] <i4> dabaR: you can answer that if you want :)
[04:35] <dabaR> you can have multiple connections as soon as you install the server.
[04:35] <zerboxx> I need help figuring out what is going wrong with a perl script, does anyone mind giving me a hand?
[04:35] <i4> dabaR: k, i have ssh installed.
[04:35] <dabaR> i4: k, go all out with the connections...recursively!
[04:35] <sambagirl> why so many processes running this is redicullous.
[04:36] <i4> dabaR: huh
[04:36] <Tzi> miguel: xine =) apt-get install xine-ui
[04:36] <Mot> anyone know of a free iso burner?
[04:36] <miguel> Tzi: thanx
[04:36] <Tzi> Mot: Nautilus? =)
[04:36] <umboto> has anyone been able to install the nvidia nforce drivers on unbuntu?
[04:36] <Tzi> Mot: k3b is a good cd burner too, will also burn isos
[04:37] <umboto> Mot,  gnome baker
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: I'd be surprised if you found a non-free iso burner =)
[04:37] <Mot> lol which one is better :-D
[04:37] <Tzi> umboto: Mine just work.. They're in linux-restricted-modules
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: k3b is better =)
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: gnome baker doesn't allow overburning
[04:37] <Mot> wahts the website
[04:37] <umboto> yea but i think im having conflicting issues with my audio
[04:37] <Tzi> Mot: apt-get install k3b :P
[04:37] <biscuit__> Veritas on Windows is the most unstubborn
[04:37] <Tzi> umboto: Really?  Is it an nforce?
[04:38] <umboto> yea
[04:38] <dabaR> i4, I mean, you can go ahead and connect more than once..and recursively means therough one ssh session to your computer, make another one, and so on till infinity.
[04:38] <umboto> i get like freezes
[04:38] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, alsa
[04:38] <Tzi> umboto: Tricky =) Have you trawled ubuntuforums and google?
[04:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:38] <umboto> but it happens on random
[04:38] <umboto> wheni play music
[04:38] <umboto> alsa?
[04:38] <Mot> tzi , wats the site?
[04:38] <umboto> c0rrupt_,  what about alsa?
[04:38] <umboto> oops
[04:38] <umboto> you were talking to someone else
[04:38] <umboto> haha
[04:39] <zerboxx> dabar: I've posted it somewhere else too "http://sial.org/pbot/12581"
[04:39] <Tzi> Mot: I dunno, just google it =)
[04:40] <EasterSunshine> hey where is that n00b i said i would help...? oh well...
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> nothing, i just hate how i can only use sound on 1 program at a time..
[04:40] <PurpleMotion> c0rrupt_:  buy a better sound card ;)
[04:40] <umboto> i think i have the same problem c0rrupt_
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> i thought thats all alsa can do
[04:40] <peaker> PurpleMotion: It works! :)  Alsa 1.0.9 supports my card okay
[04:40] <c0rrupt_> you cant have more..
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> ..can you?
[04:41] <umboto> my pc can only handle one sound process at a time
[04:41] <umboto> if i do two...i freeze
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> yea
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> i dont freeze..
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> it just doesnt work
[04:41] <umboto> i freeze :-/
[04:41] <EasterSunshine> you guys need to read up on sound servers
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> alsa only supports 1 process at a time..
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[04:41] <Mot> hey k3b is only for linux?
[04:41] <umboto> i c
[04:41] <c0rrupt_> thats what ive heard
[04:41] <Mot> i dont see a windows installer
[04:41] <umboto> why dont you use esd?
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> 0.o
[04:42] <oceandead> heh
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> EasterSunshine... is there any fix?
[04:42] <umboto> i wouldn't mind compling my own nforce drivers, but it says that it can't find the kernel-sources, even though i downloaded them
[04:42] <umboto> through the snaptic package thingy
[04:42] <umboto> i don't know where it installed it too
[04:42] <c0rrupt_> go to /usr/src
[04:43] <EasterSunshine> c0rrupt: i dunno, but i can run multiple sound processes just fine
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> hmm
[04:43] <umboto> hmm ill check
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> !chroot
[04:43] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> easter is just lucky
[04:43] <c0rrupt_> ill ask seveas later..
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> !ubotu, that's not funny
[04:43] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:43] <PurpleMotion> peaker:  think i could get true full duplex support if i installed alsa froms ource?
[04:43] <dabaR> zerboxx: asked on #perl?
[04:43] <zerboxx> dabaR: Yup :)
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> how can i use chroot to restory my kernel to /boot ...
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> ??
[04:44] <i4> dabaR: ah i see, i do not think i will do that though.
[04:44] <i4> dabar: i'm sure it would become unsafe
[04:44] <Mot> whats a good free iso burner for windows
[04:44] <Mot> ?
[04:44] <dabaR> zerboxx: dont tell me those freaks dont knowit?
[04:44] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  any luck, m8?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, cdrecord
[04:44] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[04:44] <dabaR> i4, there is no reason for it to,..but, it was a joke.
[04:44] <Mot> wats the site
[04:44] <zerboxx> dabaR: I have no idea what they're saying :D
[04:44] <OCA|> I'm looking for a filesystem that is supported (safely) in Linux and Windows, is relitively reliable, and has support for large files (50+ gigs). Does such a beast exist?
[04:44] <dabaR> heh, but they are speaking in english?
[04:44] <dabaR> fat.
[04:45] <peaker> PurpleMotion: An alsa upgrade is full of possibilities, and since there's no deb of 1.0.9, the answer must be ya
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, its a GPL recorder that is in Linux....you have Google, right?
[04:45] <dabaR> heh
[04:45] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Okey... Sound is enabled... But when KDE starts, I get an error that says "Error when initializing sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)"
[04:45] <dabaR> sorry, never read to the eng.
[04:45] <Mot> ya but
[04:45] <dabaR> eend
[04:45] <concept10> OCA|, fat32
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> I guess I need to google for chroot too
[04:45] <Mot> i have windows
[04:45] <Mot> not linux
[04:45] <umboto> one thing that sucked about ubuntu, was that i couldn't burn cds, then thanks the help here, i installed the extra repos and installed cdrdao
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, google works on windows too
[04:45] <umboto> and now i have no probs
[04:45] <OCA|> concept10: fat32 has a 4 gig file size limit I thought?
[04:45] <Mot> i no lol
[04:45] <nomasteryoda|w> just google win32 cdrecord
[04:45] <Syco54645> so when does breezy come out?
[04:45] <Mot> ... but you said its in linux
[04:45] <umboto> i should stuck with freebsd
[04:46] <nomasteryoda|w> Mot, its available for both
[04:46] <umboto> :-/
[04:46] <concept10> OCA|, files bigger than 4gb, I dont know.
[04:46] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[04:46] <nomasteryoda|w> lol
[04:46] <concept10> umboto, dont troll
[04:46] <umboto> sorry
[04:46] <Concord_Dawn> !fonts
[04:46] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:46] <umboto> "YHBT!"
[04:46] <OCA|> ...
[04:46] <OCA|> !sex
[04:46] <ubotu> OCA|: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:47] <OCA|> ... damn
[04:47] <umboto> you have been tr0LL3d
[04:47] <umboto> jk jk
[04:47] <rob_p> zerboxx:  You could change the, "$playing = `mpc`;" to something like, "$playing = `mpc | cut -d '-' -f2`;" and give it a shot.  This would only work if the naming convention always has a, "-" between the band name and the song title.
[04:47] <concept10> OCA|, what do you need files larger than 50 gigs for?
[04:47] <Mot> wtf i cant find the cd record website
[04:47] <Mot> lol
[04:47] <dabaR> OCA|: .....:)
[04:47] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there any way to bind ctrl+alt+del to system manager?
[04:47] <zerboxx> rob_p: yup, always!
[04:47] <MrGardenHoseMan> i mean system monitor
[04:48] <OCA|> concept10: I'm taking the brute force method to hard drive backup = dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/usbhd basically
[04:48] <umboto> MrGardenHoseMan,  its on the unoffical faqs on the wiki
[04:48] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[04:48] <umboto> you can set ctrl alt delte to gnome system processes thingy
[04:48] <umboto> its pretty cool
[04:48] <gsanse> Does anybody know how can I enable a different user login in the xcreensaver locked screen message?
[04:48] <umboto> i tried doing the splash screen thing for grub, but i thinkn i messed up
[04:48] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: It asked me to choose one of three options (always autosave, autosave once, and never save)... Then it ran for a second and returned me to a prompt.. What now?
[04:49] <dabaR> umboto: two months from now, it will be standard ubuntu.
[04:49] <concept10> OCA|, maybe you could use ext3, there is support for windows soemwhere
[04:49] <dabaR> Hi, leader!
[04:49] <umboto> dabaR,  thats awesome!
[04:49] <EasterSunshine> oh no i odn't want a splash screen
[04:49] <dabaR> its ok...:-/...tell me the practical use of that thing, please.
[04:49] <OCA|> concept10: I found an ext2 driver, but I'm a bit nervous about it (version 0.26?)
[04:49] <Mot> wats a good / free iso burner for windows
[04:49] <EasterSunshine> i can disable it right? i want ugly grey letters on black bg
[04:49] <dabaR> Do I ever boot? rarely...
[04:49] <umboto> Mot,  how about isobuster?
[04:49] <umboto> wait no
[04:49] <dabaR> do I care about a picture, not for sure.
[04:49] <umboto> uh...
[04:50] <umboto> thinking
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> i haven't booted since july but still
[04:50] <umboto> dvddecrypter
[04:50] <concept10> OCA|, meybe you should find another backup method
[04:50] <umboto> its free
[04:50] <umboto> and it burns isos
[04:50] <umboto> i got it off of doom9.org
[04:50] <Mot> k
[04:50] <umboto> but why do you speak of win32 in this chan
[04:50] <umboto> it is forbidden
[04:50] <OCA|> concept10: I'm hoping to just do it this way to minimize cost and downtime, but if I can't find a reliable way to do this, then I will try to find another way.
[04:50] <concept10> because its not the topic
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> doze is unwelcomed here
[04:51] <umboto> lets lynch him!
[04:51] <EasterSunshine> lets give him a +q
[04:51] <umboto> jk jk
[04:51] <jayeola> no umboto : reboot him
[04:51] <Mot> is it also called dvdfab decrypter
[04:51] <jeffrae> Hello
[04:51] <umboto> haha jayeola
[04:51] <Spudchat> does anyone know how to convert wma to mp3 in ubuntu?
[04:51] <umboto> Spudchat,  why would you
[04:51] <MrPockets> ask the file nicley
[04:51] <dabaR> hey jeffrae
[04:51] <jeffrae> has anyone here upgradede their GhostScript package on ubuntu?
[04:51] <umboto> ogg is free and better
[04:51] <Mot> wats ogg
[04:51] <Spudchat> for a friend of mine
[04:52] <umboto> ogg vorbis
[04:52] <umboto> better quality
[04:52] <EasterSunshine> microsoft doesn't want people to change out of wma, those losters
[04:52] <EasterSunshine> losers*
[04:52] <oceandead> flac is better :P
[04:52] <Mot> wait for iso burning?
[04:52] <dabaR> Spudchat: googled?
[04:52] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Sorry to be a bother, but what now? I'm returned to a prompt after choosing always autosave...
[04:52] <umboto> flac creates HUGE Files
[04:52] <oceandead> flac is lossless
[04:52] <jeffrae> ogg flac is lossless
[04:52] <jeffrae> oops
[04:52] <zerboxx> rob_p: Blank like it was before
[04:52] <umboto> you can set quality for ogg at 1.0 and get the quality
[04:52] <jeffrae> floc is lossless
[04:52] <jeffrae> sorry about the ogg part
[04:52] <dabaR> dont forget to floss!
[04:52] <jeffrae> flac
[04:53] <oceandead> hehehe
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> anyone knows what is quality of ogg that i got from audiocd:/Ogg Vorbis/ ?
[04:53] <requiem_> !repositoires
[04:53] <ubotu> requiem_: I don't know
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> !repos
[04:53] <jeffrae> Mr prnter requires ghostscript 5.51
[04:53] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:53] <requiem_> !mirrors
[04:53] <ubotu> requiem_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:53] <MrPockets> does Ubuntu have a equivilent to MS paint?
[04:53] <Spudchat> do i have lame by default?
[04:53] <jeffrae> My Printer requires ghostscript 8.51, but ubuntu only has 7.x
[04:53] <requiem_> EasterSunshine, thanks
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> mrpockets: gimp
[04:53] <Spudchat> it says its neede
[04:53] <Pechorin> MrPockets, gimp might be an overkill... try www.gnomefiles.org
[04:53] <OCA|> MrPockets: No, but it has a photoshot equivilent (Gimp).... (I would assume)
[04:53] <jeffrae> gimp is better
[04:53] <oceandead> why would anyone want ms paint equiv when you got the gimp
[04:54] <jeffrae> but gimp is overkill
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> mrpockets: acutally gimp is more like a run down photoshop. do you know about wine? you can use it to run mspaint on linux
[04:54] <Pechorin> oceandead, if you need something that loads faster? :)
[04:54] <dabaR> Spudchat: to find out whether a package is installed, you can use synaptic, or aptitude. eve apt probably, but thats deprecated.
[04:54] <dabaR> Spudchat: used synaptic?
[04:54] <dabaR> ever, and that...
[04:54] <umboto> ogg vs flac
[04:54] <oceandead> Pechorin, point taken
[04:54] <umboto> which is better?
[04:54] <OCA|> Run down photoshop? I've been forced to use Photoshop the past 9 months and I would LOVE to go back to the gimp, lool
[04:54] <umboto> it is like chicken vs beef
[04:54] <umboto> ?
[04:54] <jeffrae> My Printer requires ghostscript 8.51, but ubuntu only has 7.x  has anyone ever upgraded their ghostscript package?
[04:54] <Pechorin> oceandead, though I do agree that gimp is great, of course
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> photoshop is a demon to throw into wine...anyone successful?
[04:55] <dabaR> jeffrae: where did you learn it needs that?
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> photoshop cs2, that is. i heard few ppl have success with it
[04:55] <jeffrae> from howtos
[04:55] <oceandead> agreed, youre right about the loading time though ...especially since prelink isnt recommended
[04:55] <rob_p> zerboxx:  hmm... seems to work here!
[04:55] <jeffrae> They said that the the problem I am having with the pcl driver
[04:55] <jeffrae> is fixed in 8.51
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> anyone know how>... chroot restore kernel?
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> sorry to keep asking
[04:56] <dabaR> howtos on where?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> i dorked up my /boot
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> so kernel is not there now
[04:56] <jeffrae> well not a howto, but someone elses personal experiance
[04:56] <dabaR> nomasteryoda|w: stop asking already;) just ask...
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> :/
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:56] <jeffrae> I am having the sale problem he did untill he upgraded
[04:56] <jeffrae> my prints are shifted down and to the left like .5"
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> well, i asked, but no one replied
[04:56] <dabaR> well, what is the issue? from the forums some advice?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> is kernel same on Live disk?
[04:57] <dabaR> I had that same thing, I remember that.
[04:57] <jeffrae> My printer asks to load aper after each job too... He claims 8.51 fixed that for him too
[04:57] <nomasteryoda|w> i saw a suggestion to chroot then just use the tools from installed disc to put new kernel onto ./boot
[04:57] <dabaR> jeffrae: is this a package, Ghostscript?
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> if(japanese_kubuntu == sexy)return TRUE; >>> TRUE
[04:58] <jeffrae> yes
[04:58] <ironuckles> hey all
[04:58] <jeffrae> you never heard of Ghostscript?
[04:58] <biscuit__> Where do I get the ALSA source at?
[04:58] <jeffrae> I thought everyone has
[04:58] <biscuit__> Like the exact URL
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> hello ironuckles, you appear to be missing two letters in your nick
[04:58] <jeffrae> gs-emp
[04:58] <thezombiehunter> my freekin sound card JUST WONT WORK ON LINUX THE ONLY ONE IT DID WORK ON WAS SUSE 9.3 PRO
[04:59] <ofer0> what is ubuntu`s lates kernel ?
[04:59] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, i created this nick back in the day when AIM only let you have 10 characters
[04:59] <dabaR> biscuit__: you can likely get it from the repos.
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: wow you are old
[04:59] <fish> how do I set my ubuntu to always compile i686
[04:59] <peaker> dabaR: Unless you want the 1.0.9 version..
[04:59] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, if 20 is old, then yes :-P
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: in that case you are over twice as old as i am...
[04:59] <thezombiehunter> i think ill just leave linux =/ nothing works here.
[05:00] <zerboxx> rob_p: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1380 is that the code you have?
[05:00] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, what are you, one of those 'gifted' kids?
[05:00] <ofer0> thezombiehunter, cya
[05:00] <ofer0> thezombiehunter, sound like a cry for help
[05:00] <ofer0> *sounds
[05:00] <fish> I need to compile apt for i686 to take advantage of my pentium
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: this is horribly off topic, but i have a friend who ran an aim server, and logged in with a screename 480 chars long
[05:00] <thezombiehunter> dude i was just kddin, im just pissed ubuntu doesnt have built in support for sb live 24 bit
[05:00] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine, thats sweet
[05:00] <thezombiehunter> well Kubuntu anyway
[05:00] <fish> its compiling at i386 when I apt-get source -b apt
[05:01] <desrt> thezombiehunter; sblive24 is an awful card
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> no kidding
[05:01] <desrt> thezombiehunter; if you just bought it i recommend taking it back while you still can
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> my mic wont even work with it
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> i have a built in sound
[05:01] <razor7> hello...
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> ironuckles: i'm not gifted...
[05:01] <desrt> thezombiehunter; i was duped into buying one... it went back as soon as i discovered that it's not even vaguely the same card as a normal sblive
[05:01] <razor7> any idea on how to re enable root normal mode
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> lol
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> oh yea
[05:01] <ironuckles> EasterSunshine: nor am i
[05:01] <desrt> razor7; sudo passwd root
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> i have a huge problem
[05:01] <thezombiehunter> im running a server on ubuntu
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> CSS
[05:02] <desrt> razor7; but you should really try sudo out.  it's nice.
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> my freinds a coder, he sorta...destroyed...the root account
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> its server only
[05:02] <razor7> ok...wit this i can do login: root?
[05:02] <thezombiehunter> so how do i fix that
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> HOLY SHIT.
[05:02] <ofer0> NetSplit
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> yup
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> yikes
[05:02] <desrt> razor7; no.  you login as a normal user
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> wait...
[05:02] <desrt> razor7; and use sudo to do root commands
[05:02] <desrt> !rootsudo
[05:02] <ubotu> [rootsudo]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:02] <razor7> yes...but i want to restore the root account
[05:03] <desrt> read that
[05:03] <dabaR> use irssi, it doesnt even show people that left almost....
[05:03] <ofer0> razor7, ROOT account should not be used
[05:03] <dabaR> 22:02 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: njan, letme0ut, budluva, Yvonne, athlon, Davey|Work, cronstadt, StrikeForce1, zblach, vitriol,  (+31 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all
[05:03] <dabaR> is the line I got.
[05:03] <razor7> because I need this for college
[05:03] <razor7> tryed Debian but Ubuntu is better
[05:03] <thezombiehunter> desrt: A. how the hell do i fix the root account on my other computer which my scripter destroyed, its council only, B. how would i reconfigure the sound for my on board card when i take out sblive24bit C. how do i add more port range forwarding to my linksys router
[05:03] <ironuckles> brb
[05:04] <razor7> but ubuntu has no root functionality
[05:04] <ofer0> dabaR, nice... :)
[05:04] <dabaR> razor7: consider sudo, and read that page, it will tell you how to turn on the root.
[05:04] <razor7> and i want it back...jejeje
[05:04] <ofer0> razor7, sudo <command>
[05:04] <razor7> thanks
[05:04] <desrt> thezombiehunter; i don't have enough details to answer any of those questions
[05:04] <desrt> thezombiehunter; except for C which is pretty easy.. it's under "applications"
[05:04] <alie> razor7, sudo passwd root
[05:04] <alie> change the passwd ;)
[05:04] <thezombiehunter> desrt: um...link plz
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; huh?
[05:05] <desrt> http://192.168.1.1/ ?
[05:05] <thezombiehunter> deset: u said its under Applications
[05:05] <thezombiehunter> deset: i ran out of em
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; in the router config
[05:05] <ironuckles> has anyone used Cedega? (gaming under linux)
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; oh.  shrug.
[05:05] <thezombiehunter> desrt: nope i ran out of port range forwarding
[05:05] <desrt> thezombiehunter; free some up?
[05:06] <desrt> thezombiehunter; consolidate some?  use the misnamed "DMZ" feature?
[05:06] <thezombiehunter> desrt: no chance, as a matter of fact i need more.
[05:06] <requiem_> !repos
[05:06] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:06] <thezombiehunter> desrt: anyway im getting rid of SBLIVE24bit, so wtf do i do to get back onboard sound for linux
[05:06] <dabaR> higgling is such a cool word.
[05:06] <dabaR> u
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> dabar...i know u..
[05:07] <dabaR> I know you too.
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> lol
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> yea
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> who am i then lol
[05:07] <dabaR> You dont want me to tell you.
[05:07] <thezombiehunter> *sunrex/darksoul*
[05:07] <DekaPink> Woot... Breezy Colony 3 Live works. :D
[05:08] <dabaR> DekaPink: checked out the bootsplash?
[05:08] <james_> I just installed ubuntu, i've never used it before, what do I use for anti virus and spyware?
[05:08] <razor7> hey guys...how to disable automatic login?
[05:08] <DekaPink> dabaR, Er... It didn't have one that I noticed? :3
[05:08] <oceandead> ah ...
[05:08] <razor7> i mean gdm asking me for username and pass
[05:08] <dabaR> razor7: your gdm, the graphical login signs you in automatically?
[05:09] <oceandead> you wont get any spyware
[05:09] <razor7> yep...
[05:09] <razor7> is possible to disable this?
[05:09] <james_> what about viruses?
[05:09] <dabaR> DekaPink: search on the forums, for breezy colony 3.
[05:09] <oceandead> clamav for antivirus
[05:09] <thezombiehunter> u know i think linux is great compaired to windows...but i really wish they had more built in support...hey i got a firewall for linux today, i go on the ubuntu forums...and im attacked by tons of serious viruses..wtf is up with that
[05:09] <dabaR> razor7: yes, off course. So you want it to ask you for a user name and password?
[05:09] <requiem_> why doesn't smbfs come in the repositories ?
[05:10] <rob^> thezombiehunter, normal internet traffic
[05:10] <thezombiehunter> lol
[05:10] <dabaR> requiem_: cause you dont have the right repo enabled.
[05:10] <alie> razor7, System->administration->login screen setup
[05:10] <requiem_> dabaR, what is the file, and what is the right repo ?
[05:10] <requiem_> may I ask ?
[05:10] <requiem_> is it an official ?
[05:10] <DekaPink> So far, my only complaint is that it doesn't seem to like my mouse and refuses to make use of the wheel.
[05:11] <razor7> thanks
[05:11] <dabaR> requiem_: the file is whatever I dont know that, they have long names, aptitude search smbfs, requiem_ .
[05:11] <oceandead> xorg might not have picked it up right
[05:12] <dabaR> DekaPink: that is a complaint? it is unstable, in develoment. Also...submit a bug.
[05:12] <dabaR> DekaPink: also, check out the splash.
[05:12] <requiem_> dabaR, I use synaptic, isn't it the same thing ?
[05:13] <dabaR> requiem_: yes, it happens to be. Is the file there?
[05:13] <dabaR> smbfs.
[05:13] <dabaR> Use the search function.
[05:13] <requiem_> dabaR, nope
[05:13] <Concord_Dawn> yay
[05:13] <requiem_> I tried that
[05:13] <Concord_Dawn> netjoin!
[05:14] <oceandead> enable sroll events from wheel mouse .... (not sure what line to add to xorg.conf though)
[05:14] <oceandead>         Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5" ?
[05:14] <requiem_> oceandead, button "4 5"
[05:14] <dabaR> ok, well, add the repos. have you looked on the wiki about adding repos?
[05:14] <requiem_> that
[05:14] <juansebas> hello, does anyone have experience installing eclipse on ubuntu?
[05:14] <DekaPink> dabaR, not so much a complaint as an observation. ^^ Just sayin'... and I wouldn't know how to go about working the splash on the live CD. :3
[05:14] <requiem_> dabaR, sure
[05:15] <dabaR> DekaPink: neither would I, that is why I referenced the forums.
[05:15] <dabaR> requiem_: go add all repos, then update or refresh its called in synaptic, and then search, it will be there.
[05:15] <dabaR> requiem_: let me teach you one thing.
[05:16] <requiem_> dabaR, k
[05:17] <requiem_> dabaR, thanks
[05:17] <dabaR> requiem_: /msg ubotu info package name tells you whether ubuntu hass a package. try it out, /msg ubotu info smbfs. Also, your nick has to be registered, so /msg nickserv help register to learn how, if you are not registered.
[05:17] <Jack-Ho> hey
[05:17] <Jack-Ho> my cd \ dvd drives dosnet work
[05:17] <Jack-Ho> :(
[05:18] <dabaR> whats doesnt work mean?
[05:18] <Jack-Ho> i can`t use them
[05:18] <rob^> blah
[05:18] <Jack-Ho> holy cow
[05:18] <dabaR> Aha, so, you dont have hands, I take, so you can not use it? or is it something else?
[05:18] <juansebas> hey what linux version of Eclipse should I install for ubuntu?
[05:18] <morbidi> ok
[05:18] <tristanmike> what the heck
[05:18] <morbidi> back
[05:19] <dabaR> juansebas: anyone version, newest stable from their site.
[05:19] <Jack-Ho> "unable to mount volume"
[05:20] <morbidi> dabaR: it should came with the name of the repo
[05:20] <morbidi> btw, requiem here
[05:20] <Jack-Ho> "no madia in the divece"
[05:20] <juansebas> right, what I mean is that there are different versions like x86/GTK 2, x86_64/GTK 2, PPC/GTK 2, etc, I don't know which one to use
[05:20] <Concord_Dawn> juansebas, x86/GTK 2
[05:20] <juansebas> x86? I have an Athlon XP 2700
[05:20] <Concord_Dawn> most likely.
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> is it 64 bit?
[05:21] <juansebas> ok, thanks :)
[05:21] <juansebas> no, it's not
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[05:21] <Concord_Dawn> then x86
[05:21] <juansebas> ok
[05:21] <dabaR> morbidi: agreed,. but it did not, jsut add all of themm.
[05:21] <Jack-Ho> any one?
[05:21] <Jack-Ho> :\
[05:21] <dabaR> is there media?
[05:22] <Jack-Ho> yep
[05:22] <Jack-Ho> dvd disk
[05:22] <dabaR> does it mount in windows?
[05:22] <Jack-Ho> what do you mean?
[05:22] <dabaR> juansebas: uname -r and tell me,.
[05:23] <dabaR> Jack-Ho: does that same disk moutn in windows...
[05:23] <alie> where to get the .deb files
[05:23] <alie> for php mysql
[05:23] <dabaR> alie: there is a wiki about that.
[05:23] <Jack-Ho> its work in windows, yes
[05:23] <alie> ok
[05:25] <EasterSunshine> when did ubuntu first come out?
[05:25] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: ever visited the web site?
[05:25] <ofer0> what is ubuntu`s lates kernel ?
[05:25] <ofer0> what is ubuntu`s latest kernel ?
[05:26] <EasterSunshine> dabar: yes but i don't remember seeing it there...let me look again
[05:27] <morbidi> it seems that I have installed smbfs
[05:27] <morbidi> but he says I haven't got smbfs
[05:27] <dabaR> the latest linux kernel, that is stable
[05:27] <morbidi> what the hell
[05:27] <morbidi> ?
[05:27] <dabaR> just chill already
[05:27] <morbidi> well
[05:27] <morbidi> going to bed
[05:27] <morbidi> se ya tomorrow
[05:28] <EasterSunshine> oh snap ubuntu warty was the first release?
[05:28] <EasterSunshine> i thought it was pretty late cause it was 4.10....
[05:28] <dabaR> see ya
[05:28] <cfedde> think of ubuntu as a debian distribution.
[05:28] <dabaR> cfedde: is there a continuation?
[05:29] <robitaille> EasterSunshine:  4.10 = October 2004  (4=2004  October= 10th month of the year(
[05:29] <glick> hey how does ubuntu fair as a server?
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> well
[05:29] <glick> has anyone tried out ubuntu in the server enviornment?
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> yes
[05:29] <dabaR> its a linux.
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> I'm running an IRCd, services, stats, an HTTPd, an SSHd, and a net radio daemon
[05:29] <Concord_Dawn> all on this box
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> robitaille: wow i never noticed...i thought it was actually a version number meaning it was the fourth release or something
[05:30] <juansebas> it's really good, my friend and I run a webserver on it
[05:30] <dabaR> cfedde: what did that mean?
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> holy crap.
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> pbuilder takes years.
[05:30] <cfedde> dabaR: i'm just making noise over hear.
[05:30] <cfedde> here even
[05:30] <dabaR> ok, well, good luck.
[05:30] <glick> im trying to learn cvs and set up a cvs server, me and my friend are working on a lot of software together and need an easy tool to work on it together
[05:31] <cfedde> but ubuntu is based on debian.  I guessed that the numbering scheme was related.  Apparently I was wrong.
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> glick: my friend and i
[05:31] <dabaR> cfedde: It is based in some ways. It is different in others.
[05:31] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[05:32] <cfedde> dabaR: true.
[05:32] <jblu> hi all, can someone name a good audio editor. samples and midi?
[05:32] <EasterSunshine> jblu: rosegarden
[05:32] <Concord_Dawn> jblu, I can name one for Windows!
[05:32] <slugger> Hello
[05:32] <EasterSunshine> jblu: rosegardenmusic.org
[05:32] <slugger> I am running on Ubuntu
[05:32] <jblu> I'm on a ppc , long way from windows
[05:32] <rob^> jblu, Audacity
[05:32] <slugger> Got teamspeak working
[05:33] <dabaR> slugger: dont get tired now...with all that running.
[05:33] <jblu> thnx guys
[05:33] <rob^> np
[05:33] <EasterSunshine> jblu:whoops thats www.rosegardenmusic.com
[05:33] <slugger> ??
[05:33] <jblu> and or girls:)
[05:33] <dabaR> you are running on ubuntu, dont get tired now.
[05:33] <Concord_Dawn> jblu, it's in the repositories.
[05:33] <slugger> umm ok lame joke
[05:33] <jblu> which one?
[05:33] <dabaR> thanks!
[05:34] <rob^> jblu, just do: sudo apt-get install audacity
[05:34] <slugger> gay...
[05:34] <dabaR> lame english
[05:34] <jblu> k
[05:34] <dabaR> so...anyhow.
[05:34] <slugger> um... ok...
[05:34] <dabaR> I apologize for the offense you have taken to my joke.
[05:34] <slugger> I was offended it was just lame
[05:35] <dabaR> ok, dont let me distract you from your war games.
[05:35] <EasterSunshine> i got into linux just cause i wanted to run rosegarden
[05:35] <EasterSunshine> and it wasn't available on windows...
[05:35] <slugger> Well I have two computers sitting right in front of me, one for ubuntu and one as xp
[05:36] <juansebas> what's rosegarden?
[05:36] <rob^> jblu, you can also install rosegarden using apt-get
[05:36] <rob^> audio editor
[05:36] <EasterSunshine> juansebas: see www.rosegardenmusic.com
[05:36] <slugger> so whats up?
[05:36] <juansebas> ok
[05:37] <jblu> is it shareware?  or commercial?
[05:37] <EasterSunshine> the .com makes it commercial i gues
[05:37] <dabaR> slugger, do you think you have given us a question, regarding your problem?
[05:37] <rob^> its GPLed
[05:37] <bimberi> jblu: neither, it is free
[05:37] <slugger> im confused
[05:37] <dabaR> slugger: or are you just asking whats up?
[05:37] <jblu> wow, thanks everyone
[05:37] <slugger> just whats up
[05:37] <slugger> who are you?
[05:38] <dabaR> aha, I thought it had to do with your boxes.
[05:38] <juansebas> wow, really cool
[05:38] <dabaR> computers.
[05:38] <slugger> nope but got them working right now :)
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> i burnt out a computer today
[05:39] <slugger> my friend got me to dl ubuntu and take my sis pc that she doesnt use and put ubuntu on it
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> it exploded
[05:39] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: good work.
[05:39] <zerboxx> I have a plugin for xchat that I would like to load everytime, how can I do this?
[05:40] <juansebas> hey, to install rosegarden, should I install rosegarden or rosegarden2?
[05:40] <rob^> zenrox, window->Plugins and Scripts
[05:41] <EasterSunshine> dabar: yeah, now i have to get a new motherboard. do you know what is the difference between petium 4 prescott/celeron and intel pentium 4?
[05:41] <rob^> zerboxx, window->Plugins and Scripts
[05:41] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: they can house different processors.
[05:41] <zerboxx> rob^: that just loads it this one time, or is it different from xchat->Load Plugin or Script??
[05:41] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: that question is deliberately put in an obvious way.
[05:41] <dabaR> answer.
[05:42] <dabaR> not question.
[05:42] <bimberi> juansebas: rosegarden is a dummy package with rosegarden2 as the only dependency - you can install either
[05:42] <slugger> is there any other channels
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> dabar: i have never heard the word prescott...can i take a processor from a pentium 4 and put it in a pentium 4 prescott/celeron?
[05:42] <dabaR> go read some things on the intel site.
[05:43] <dabaR> that will tell you. Prescottt is some line of a product.
[05:43] <rob^> zerboxx, no it should keep it in there.
[05:43] <rob^> oh well
[05:43] <dabaR> the compatibilities you should discuss with the seller.
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> they would charge me to talk with them...
[05:44] <calc> EasterSunshine: prescott is the newest non dual core version of the p4/celeron
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> calc: different arrangment of pins than the p4/celeron?
[05:45] <juansebas> thanks bimberi
[05:45] <calc> er there have been at least 3 different p4 pinouts
[05:45] <calc> and celeron has been used since p2 days there are many different pinouts for it
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> argh...one more thing to worry about
[05:45] <calc> afaik p4 and p4 based celerons have at least been socket 423 478 775
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> calc: is that the number of pins? cause i'm willing to count
[05:46] <jblu> I'm new so please exuse:)  I have hundreds of text files withouth the .txt on them is there a way to do that in the terminal?
[05:46] <calc> yea the sockets look much different too
[05:47] <calc> you should be able to find pictures of the various sockets
[05:47] <calc> the 478 is pretty small and the chip has pins
[05:47] <jblu> I need that for the Web
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> jblue: for file in ls; do mv "$file" "$file.txt"; done <<---something like that maybe. ask someone to fix it
[05:47] <calc> 775 the chip doesn't have pins but something else, i haven't seen it before
[05:47] <calc> 423 is similar to 478 but is much larger physically
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> jblu* see my last post
[05:48] <jblu> k
[05:48] <NoHope> good nigth
[05:48] <slugger> bye
[05:48] <NoHope> s/nigth/night
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> sweet dreams
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> calc: thx
[05:48] <NoHope> ops... night == evening?
[05:48] <c0rrupt_> k
[05:48] <calc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478
[05:49] <bimberi> juansebas: yw :) btw - there's also rosegarden4, which requires KDE (probably has a nicer interface)
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> wow it appears that 3.8 ghz is available...i thought the faster currently was 1.2 ghz
[05:49] <dabaR> bimberi: couldnt be muich worse...:-/
[05:50] <dabaR> jblu: have you double checked that you really need this for the web, you dont afaik.
[05:50] <calc> p4 didn't even start at that low a speed
[05:50] <calc> iirc slowest p4 was 1.3ghz
[05:50] <bimberi> dabaR: yes, i've had a look at rosegarden (but not 4) and ... well ... ewwww!
[05:50] <jblu> yes, the lines of poetry are all run together, when I add .txt the render correctly
[05:50] <calc> hmm no slowest was 1.4ghz
[05:50] <calc> back in Nov 2000
[05:51] <zerboxx> I've noticed files are created with a ~ after them.  I assume these are backups, but how can I get rid of all of them?
[05:51] <EasterSunshine> calc: i have a 1.2 ghz p4 in front of me right now...
[05:52] <calc> EasterSunshine: 1.2ghz p4 or p3?
[05:52] <calc> p3's stopped around 1.2ghz
[05:52] <jblu> http://naturesimagebank.com/Literature/Verse/VariousPoems/  see the ones with text
[05:52] <calc> p3's topped out at 1.4ghz but were pretty rare that fast
[05:53] <c0rrupt_> wow awesome
[05:53] <calc> "Intel didn't want a repeat of the situation where the performance of a lower priced Celeron rivaled that of the more expensive Pentium II, so Tualatin never ran faster than 1.4 GHz, the introductory clock rate of the Pentium 4."
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> calc: pretty sure its a p4, although that seems to be inconsistent with what i'm seeing on the web....
[05:53] <juansebas> hey I just installed Eclipse, how can I set it up so when I type eclipse on the terminal it opens it, instead of having to go the directory where I uncompressed the file
[05:53] <bimberi> zerboxx: verify that "ls *~" only lists those files, then if that looks ok "rm *~"
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> this is odd...
[05:53] <calc> EasterSunshine: you may have found a rare not generally released chip
[05:53] <calc> EasterSunshine: or you just don't know what chip you actually have ;)
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> calc: or its burned down to 1.2 ghz
[05:54] <calc> i know AMD sometimes releases chips at speeds that aren't generally released
[05:54] <zerboxx> bimberi: how about systemwide, or is that just not a good idea?
[05:54] <dabaR> jblu: html is what could be used for formatting for the web...:-/...hehe, whatever...
[05:54] <calc> a p4 1.2 would be pretty slow too
[05:55] <jblu> yeah, I know, lol
[05:55] <biscuit_> When i try to configure and compile the alsa-utils source, it says that i need a curses library
[05:55] <bimberi> zerboxx: not a good idea IMO
[05:55] <jblu> but text works good
[05:55] <dabaR> juansebas: you could add its folder to the path.
[05:55] <calc> probably about equal to a p3 800mhz
[05:55] <rob^> biscuit_, you don't ned to compile alsa in ubuntu, just configure it
[05:55] <dabaR> juansebas: find out the exact directory.
[05:56] <biscuit_> I have to recompile/configure mine, alsaconf or alsamixer won't work
[05:56] <zerboxx> bimberi: heh ok they can't be taking up much space anyways, so no worries
[05:56] <juansebas> ok, I'll try that
[05:56] <rob^> biscuit_, reconfigure the packages
[05:56] <biscuit_> Tried
[05:56] <biscuit_> No luck
[05:56] <bimberi> juansebas: or you could:     sudo ln -s /path/to/eclipse/executable /usr/local/bin/eclipse
[05:56] <biscuit_> So does anyone know what the curses library is?
[05:56] <rob^> biscuit_, whats the error?
[05:57] <biscuit_> For when alsamixer won't open?
[05:57] <rob^> yep
[05:57] <biscuit_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:57] <EasterSunshine> calc: i am on p3 450 mhz, it runs linux just fine
[05:57] <biscuit_> It won't find alsaconf
[05:57] <biscuit_> Im on a P4 3.00 ghz with HT.... :-D
[05:58] <alie> hi i want to know in case if i dont have internet available at my installation site what is the alternative solution ?
[05:58] <dabaR> bimberi: good point.
[05:58] <alie> thanks in advance
[05:58] <oceandead> k6-2 @ 400
[05:58] <dabaR> download all packages onto a dvd.
[05:59] <biscuit_> Does anyone know where i get the curses lib at
[05:59] <rob^> biscuit_, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/349193
[05:59] <alie> where to download ? and how to install from cd or dvd ?
[05:59] <rob^> biscuit_, you may want to file a bug report on it
[05:59] <alie> i mean first cd is bootable and does the system installation
[06:00] <EasterSunshine> socket 754 is fat...lots of holes
[06:00] <alie> dabaR what is the way to download all the packages ?
[06:02] <steveO_Laptop> hello all anyone here running wifi radar?
[06:03] <EasterSunshine> you run a radar? cool. what can you see?
[06:03] <rob^> biscuit_, also see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-51483.html and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211
[06:03] <c0rrupt_> i see planes
[06:03] <c0rrupt_> and black people...
[06:03] <satafterh> anyone here use zsnes and get sound working?
[06:05] <biscuit_> So does anyone know where to get the curses library
[06:06] <kevin06> Has anyone here used both ISPConfig and Webmin, and which would you guys recommend, and why?
[06:06] <biscuit_> !curses
[06:06] <ubotu> biscuit_: Are you on ritalin?
[06:06] <biscuit_> Oh for the love of god
[06:06] <biscuit_> !alsa
[06:06] <ubotu> alsa is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:07] <biscuit_> !libcurses
[06:07] <ubotu> biscuit_: I haven't a clue
[06:09] <bimberi> biscuit_: there is libncurses4 and libncurses5 - perhaps one of those
[06:10] <Orborde> How do I add the Breezy repositories into Synaptic? I'm trying to download kernel 2.6.12 to fix a processor problem.
[06:10] <EasterSunshine> hey does anyone know where i can get really big picutres of sdram, rdram, ddr sdram, and ddr2? i need to know which ones my motherboards use
[06:10] <EasterSunshine> orborde: in your /etc/apt/sources.list, replace hoary with breezy
[06:11] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell Orborde about repos
[06:11] <Orborde> Thanks.
[06:13] <biscuit_> Thanks
[06:13] <DekaPink> Can xmms play flac files?
[06:13] <rob^> DekaPink, with the right plugin it can
[06:14] <c0rrupt_> it can play whatever fits in the mms hole
[06:14] <rob^> bmp is nicer
[06:14] <La_PaRCa> what does this do ->  ./join #channel -s /dev/false
[06:14] <NoHope> bmp uses Alsa, it's newer and nicer sure.
[06:15] <ssdd65> how come whenever i run apt-get it can never find the package i need
[06:15] <DekaPink> Meh. I like xmms. ^^
[06:15] <kevin06> Why does the Apache package install Apach2-utils?
[06:15] <rob^> ssdd65, maybe it doesn't exist or you typed it in wrong
[06:15] <NoHope> ssdd65, try add more repositories.
[06:15] <rob^> bmp == xmms with gtk2
[06:15] <Orborde> Even Linux kernel releases are the stable ones, aren't they?
[06:15] <NoHope> and search for than before.
[06:15] <ssdd65> i have all the repositorys loaded...
[06:16] <rob^> ssdd65, try: apt-cache search <packagename>
[06:16] <gmoore>  this is a really stupid question, but i'm new to linux and i'm pretty lost. i'm trying to set up proftpd and i'm confused about how to make users (not configuring the .conf file... i mean in my o/s). all ftp servers seem to function this way but i can't find a good explaination; they all assume you already know this (i guess it's a pretty 'core' thing). help? :(
[06:16] <ssdd65> ok
[06:16] <NoHope> ssdd65, what program had you tried and haven't found?
[06:16] <rob^> ssdd65, find the right name, then use apt-get to install it
[06:16] <ssdd65> mplayer
[06:16] <c0rrupt_> =-O
[06:16] <zerboxx> join #fvwm
[06:16] <NoHope> ssdd65, ah try apt-cache search or synaptic
[06:16] <cyphase> hey everyone
[06:16] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell ssdd65 about repos
[06:16] <c0rrupt_> use command line!1
[06:17] <thezombiehunter> OK just smashed Sound Blaster LIVE 24bit, im now running my onboard sound card
[06:17] <thezombiehunter> it runs on windows
[06:17] <EasterSunshine> gmoore: do you know about adduser?
[06:17] <thezombiehunter> so is there a way to auto detect hardware again?
[06:17] <bimberi> gmoore: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups (or adduser via a terminal)
[06:17] <gmoore> EasterSunshine: i saw the command earlier, i don't know how to use it or the ramifications of it
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> btw is there a huge page about the benifts of linux and to why use linux over windows
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> im trying to get somone to join it
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> can i read it?
[06:18] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my ati radeon 9250?
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> thezombiehunter, where where
[06:18] <EasterSunshine> gmoore: try `man adduser`
[06:18] <rob^> !ati
[06:18] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> c0rrupt: ?
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> the page
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> why
[06:18] <c0rrupt_> linux > *
[06:18] <EasterSunshine> good night homies
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> yea
[06:18] <thezombiehunter> were the heck is a page like that
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> im asking
[06:19] <Ice9> rob I've already followed those steps
[06:19] <thezombiehunter> tryin to get somone to join linux...cant do it without page
[06:19] <rob^> Ice9, whats the problem?
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> ........
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> not nescarliy
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> yly
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> 5y3h
[06:19] <thezombiehunter> (he wants to see why its so much better)
[06:19] <Ice9> I'm still not having 3d acceleration
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> tell him
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> its more stable
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> it doesnt crash
[06:19] <thezombiehunter> nah just give me a link
[06:19] <rob^> Ice9, have you checked?
[06:19] <kevin06> thezombiehunter, Ask him if he's removed a virus, adware or spyware
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> its faster
[06:19] <c0rrupt_> its less prone to spyware and all that shit^
[06:19] <Ice9> yes
[06:20] <rob^> whats your fps in glxgears
[06:20] <kevin06> thezombiehunter, explain that all of the basic functionality of a basic user can be done for free, and legally.
[06:20] <DonL> I'm here late because it just took me about 2 and a half hours debugging my son's win98 computer. It had all kinds of adware, viruses, you name it
[06:21] <Ice9> in fullscreen, it was about 10
[06:21] <thezombiehunter> ..thats what i dont want to do, couse im bussy...thats why i want a freekin page
[06:21] <rob^> heh.. "debugging"
[06:21] <kevin06> thezombiehunter, Honeslty, I'm not sure there is a SINGLE page explaining ALL of the benefits over Windows...
[06:21] <rob^> Ice9, non-full screen?
[06:21] <Ice9> 350s
[06:21] <c0rrupt_> linux sucks
[06:21] <DonL> rob^, the rest of my family is still locked into that system because it's no problem for them... they have someone who will fix it
[06:21] <c0rrupt_> thats why i use it
[06:21] <rob^> kevin06, there is, feel free to work on it
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> linux sucks on game support and a few other things
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> other then that it rocks
[06:22] <Luna-Tick> In a lot of ways, Linux does suck
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> cedega*
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> linux
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> isnt ready
[06:22] <rob^> DonL, nah I was just laughing at your use of "debugging"
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> for normal use
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> in the near feauture
[06:22] <c0rrupt_> it will be
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> i know
[06:22] <DonL> rob^,  yes, I know. lol
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> so how do i get linux to autodetect my sound
[06:22] <thezombiehunter> i just got rid of my sound card
[06:23] <Luna-Tick> but the way that I look at it, I 'own' Linux, when I use Windows I am building up an asset for MS to charge me more for in the future
[06:23] <thezombiehunter> so i want to use the built in sound card
[06:23] <kevin06> rob^, huh? I think I missed something.
[06:23] <DonL> kevin06, me too
[06:23] <rob^> kentaur, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:23] <thezombiehunter> can anyone help me
[06:23] <DonL> oh. no. I see it now
[06:23] <rob^> kevin06, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:23] <rob^> oops
[06:24] <Ice9> rob^ I get 350s in non full screen
[06:24] <rob^> hmm
[06:24] <c0rrupt_> <///3 lag
[06:24] <c0rrupt_> nessus owns my connection
[06:24] <rob^> Ice9, did you follow the Hoary Hedgehog instructions?
[06:24] <Ice9> yes
[06:25] <rob^> Ice9, have you rebooted?
[06:25] <DonL> thezombiehunter, you're looking at two different systems. They have different plusses and minuses. I prefer Linux personally, and I'll deal with the game thing as it comes
[06:25] <Ice9> millions of times
[06:25] <rob^> echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:25] <rob^>     *
[06:25] <rob^>   <-- what does this output?
[06:25] <thezombiehunter> Donl: i know all this, i just want a page so somone i know can read it and i hope switch to linux
[06:25] <Luna-Tick> Fair call DonL - for nearly everything that I use, Linux is better.
[06:26] <c0rrupt_> n #whax
[06:26] <c0rrupt_> woops
[06:26] <thezombiehunter> IS there a page?
[06:26] <Ice9> rob^ it says fglrx
[06:26] <Luna-Tick> *sigh*
[06:26] <factotum> yeah, most of what i work with at work is MS, need a break when im at home
[06:26] <skapple> what program would i use to read newsgroups in ubuntu?
[06:26] <DonL> thezombiehunter, the best way to turn someone off of something is to try too hard to convince them. Linux is something people come to, something not sold to people
[06:26] <rob^> Ice9, have you tried sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[06:26] <c0rrupt_> lag@6.1s
[06:26] <nlghtcrawler> how do you install mplayer
[06:26] <nlghtcrawler> and install ALL the codecs for it?
[06:26] <c0rrupt_> apt-get install mplayer
[06:26] <rob^> !mplayer
[06:26] <ubotu> rob^: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:27] <c0rrupt_> apt-get install w32codecs
[06:27] <factotum> skapple, Pan isnt bad to start with
[06:27] <Ice9> yes
[06:27] <c0rrupt_> and
[06:27] <c0rrupt_> some others
[06:27] <c0rrupt_> =P
[06:27] <gmoore> okay i'm adding users through gnome for easiness... for 'group' and 'home dir', since i want them to be ONLY ftp users, what should i set those to? i already set shell to bin/false
[06:27] <skapple> alright, i will start with pan
[06:27] <thezombiehunter> Donl: i KNOW that i just simply want him to read the good and bad sides so he knows what to use and everything
[06:27] <rob^> !mplayer-686
[06:27] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rob^
[06:27] <rob^> stupid bot
[06:27] <c0rrupt_> !mplayer
[06:27] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:27] <c0rrupt_> ..
[06:27] <rob^> the package name is mplayer-686
[06:28] <bimberi> !info mplayer-686
[06:28] <ubotu> mplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[06:28] <DonL> Well, maybe you could write something yourself, or point them to Ubuntu's main site. That explains a lot I think
[06:28] <rob^> or you can do -586 etc
[06:28] <bimberi> !info mplayer-586
[06:28] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3486 kB, Installed size: 7508 kB
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> *sigh* need help on sound again
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> it souldent be to hard
[06:28] <rob^> there you go
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> i just need the system to find the sound card on the motherboard
[06:28] <thezombiehunter> its not soundblaster 24bit i just got rid of it
[06:28] <c0rrupt_> mplayer can be installed by running apt-get install mplayer, you also need to install codecs. plugins are also used in applications such as mozilla firefox
[06:28] <c0rrupt_> !mplayer
[06:28] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:28] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[06:29] <c0rrupt_> erp
[06:29] <DonL> thezombiehunter, was sound working with SB?
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> were is this thing called Nvu
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> only on windows
[06:29] <Ice9> is there no hope for me?
[06:29] <DonL> What is the on board sound, do you know?
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> i trashed it couse not only would it not work here, but the damn mic on BOTH windows and here was just not working
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> no i dont
[06:29] <thezombiehunter> it works on windows thou
[06:29] <bimberi> ubotu howcome is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:29] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[06:29] <Luna-Tick> http://linux.about.com/od/embedded/l/blnewbie_0toc.htm
[06:29] <Luna-Tick> http://www.faqs.org/docs/lnag/lnag_benefits.html
[06:29] <Luna-Tick> http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/index.html
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, mplayer is mplayer can be installed by running apt-get install mplayer, you also need to install codecs. plugins are also used in applications such as mozilla firefox
[06:30] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: what are you talking about?
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> mplayer
[06:30] <Luna-Tick> They were the top results when googling for 'linux benefits'
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> you fool
[06:30] <rob^> Ice9, what does "lsmod fglrx" say?
[06:30] <bimberi> c0rrupt_: lose the comma
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> yes
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> i noticed
[06:30] <gmoore> anyone know? i'm adding users for FTP access only through gnome user manager... for 'group' and 'home dir', since i want them to be ONLY ftp users, what should i set those to? i already set shell to bin/false
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> ubotu mplayer is mplayer can be installed by running apt-get install mplayer, you also need to install codecs. plugins are also used in applications such as mozilla firefox
[06:30] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, c0rrupt_
[06:30] <Ice9> rob^ Usage: lsmod
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> lol
[06:30] <c0rrupt_> i dont he likes
[06:30] <ssdd65> im trying to install mplayer as well but apt-get dosnt work...
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> mplayer is mplayer
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> it should..
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> are you root?
[06:31] <bimberi> huh
[06:31] <rob^> Ice9, what does "lsmod |grep fglrx" say?
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> use sudo
[06:31] <ssdd65> yes
[06:31] <ssdd65> i did
[06:31] <rob^> forgot the grep
[06:31] <c0rrupt_> whats it say
[06:31] <ssdd65> it just said package not found
[06:31] <thezombiehunter> can anyone just tell me how to auto detect it couse last time i installed linux it did detect it on install and it worked, so how do i do that again
[06:31] <thezombiehunter> whats the sudo command
[06:31] <Ice9> rob^ fglrx                 229568  0
[06:31] <rob^> well its loaded
[06:31] <DonL> thezombiehunter, reboot?
[06:31] <thezombiehunter> did lol
[06:32] <thezombiehunter> Donl: its simply needs to detect the card, thats all.
[06:32] <factotum> ugh, just got a new monitor, what do I do to reconfig it?  dpkg reconfig xserver xorg something something?? cant remember
[06:32] <rob^> Ice9, have you edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:32] <bimberi> factotum: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <factotum> ah yes, thanks
[06:32] <bimberi> yw :)
[06:32] <Ice9> um
[06:33] <DonL> thezombiehunter, I had problems with the onboard system I had, but I put a SB live card in and it fixed it. Probably could have made the other work if I'd tried harder
[06:33] <Ice9> rob^ how do I do that?
[06:33] <rob^> Ice9, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:33] <thezombiehunter> Donl: common plz im running Kubuntu if that helps, oh and donl its not just the card not working that pissed me off but my mic wouldent work on it either
[06:33] <lui> hello hello hello
[06:33] <c0rrupt_> HI2U
[06:33] <Ice9> rob^ okay
[06:34] <DonL> thezombiehunter, are the volumes turned up? I know that sounds stupid, but I've done that myself a few times
[06:34] <rob^> Ice9, you need to change "ati" to "fglrx"
[06:34] <lui> if I want to install the xfce in my ubuntu which one is the package I have to apt-get
[06:34] <lui> ?
[06:35] <thezombiehunter> Donl: yea yea and yea...wait ill go check alsamixer
[06:35] <Luna-Tick> Guys, I have a wired and wireless network, both of which work. I very seldom have the wired network connected so it is only the wireless that I am wanting to connect. Every time that I start it up it sits on the 'configuring network interfaces' for a very long time. I imagine that this could be because it is trying to find the wired network and timing out before moving on. Any suggestions?
[06:35] <rob^> Ice9, or alternatively you can just do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select fglrx
[06:35] <bimberi> lui: there is a "xfce" package but you probably want "xfce4"
[06:36] <thezombiehunter> donl: yea thats all on
[06:36] <Ice9> rob^ okay, I have
[06:36] <rob^> Ice9, then reboot
[06:36] <HrdwrBoB> Luna-Tick: disable the wired network in netwok settings
[06:36] <Luna-Tick> Just through the menus?
[06:36] <Ice9> okay, hopefully that was the trick, but I did that reconfigure of xserver-xorg before
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> ..
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[06:37] <lui> bimberi: yep, I want the xfce4 but what package I should choose?
[06:37] <DonL> thezombiehunter, can you beg borrow or steal another sb card? That was my fix, I don't know about you.
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> FFFFUUUU....AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[06:37] <glick> cvs seems nice enough
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> MY POOOORRR EEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[06:37] <Luna-Tick> Hrdwrebob: will that persist through restarts?
[06:37] <bimberi> lui: xfce4
[06:37] <thezombiehunter> FREEKING AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[06:38] <HrdwrBoB> Luna-Tick: yes
[06:38] <thezombiehunter> DAMNIT TO LOUD TO LOUD
[06:38] <oceandead> um
[06:38] <DonL> thezombiehunter, so you got it working?
[06:38] <thezombiehunter> NO KIDDING IM DEATH
[06:39] <lui> bimberi: thanks
[06:39] <bimberi> DonL: lol
[06:39] <bimberi> lui: yw :)
[06:39] <thezombiehunter> anyway i turned up the headphone thing and OUCH
[06:39] <biscuit__> Hello all, i finally got alsaconf to work, but when it scans for soundcards, it brings up 3 different ones.. which do i pick?
[06:39] <DonL> lol
[06:39] <thezombiehunter> anyway i need the multimeda codecs now
[06:39] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: You finally got sound to work?
[06:40] <thezombiehunter> i put the headphone thing to max and like...vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr came out so i guess its transmitting now
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> is there a way to see if the sound really works, and the codecs work
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> like a bell sound
[06:41] <biscuit__> Ummm
[06:41] <Belutz> what's the different between playback and capture in volume control?
[06:41] <biscuit__> Gnome can be setto make noises
[06:41] <lui> bimberi: you have xfce4 or have you tested?
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> im on kubuntu
[06:41] <biscuit__> KDE probally can too
[06:41] <oceandead> capture = recording
[06:41] <bimberi> lui: no - but i've seen others given the same advice
[06:41] <biscuit__> Try an audio cd
[06:41] <oceandead> incoming
[06:41] <Belutz> ic
[06:41] <oceandead> whatever
[06:41] <thezombiehunter> k
[06:42] <biscuit__> My Volume Control won't even open :-(
[06:42] <bimberi> lui: ... and noone else was answering your question :)
[06:43] <Orborde> I need help. I downloaded the linux-image-2.6.12-6-amd64-generic package from the breezy repositories, as recommended by http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228793&postcount=2 and now I'm getting "/dev/hda2 does not exist! Dropping to a shell..." early in bootup when I boot that kernel version.
[06:44] <thezombiehunter> damnit why cant the cd just run without having to upload to my computer
[06:44] <Razor-X> Orborde: do you have an AMD64?
[06:44] <nlghtcrawler> how do u get a gui for mplayer/
[06:44] <jbull> !mplayer
[06:44] <ubotu> jbull: Are you on ritalin?
[06:45] <Orborde> Razor-X, Yes; I'm not quite THAT silly.
[06:45] <Belutz> which one is better, totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ?
[06:45] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: I think you can use gmplayer, but i'm not sure, I don't use a GUI
[06:45] <lui> bimberi: I have a question... you know, in windows you install to check a software the you don't like it and decide to uninstall it but a lot of files you don't need keeps into your system and your registry turns little by little in a mess. Can that type of things happen in linux?
[06:45] <Razor-X> Orborde: meh
[06:45] <Razor-X> Orborde: what's the output of ``uname -r'' ?
[06:45] <Razor-X> errr, nevermind
[06:45] <Razor-X> do other kernels work?
[06:46] <Orborde> Razor-X, Yes, I'm running 2.6.10 right now.
[06:46] <Razor-X> lui: there's no concept of a registry in Linux
[06:46] <Razor-X> Orborde: have you tried redownloading the kernel?
[06:46] <Orborde> Razor-X, That may be a good idea. I have not.
[06:47] <Razor-X> Orborde: lemme see your GRUB's menu.lst
[06:47] <nlghtcrawler> how would u get it without getting gmplayer
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> ..
[06:47] <NatureTruth> i am using ubutu hoary.  And I wanna know if there's a way I can change my mouse cursor.
[06:47] <nlghtcrawler> get a gui for mplayer
[06:47] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: no clue
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> u hear it
[06:47] <bimberi> lui: yes it can but for debian based distributions (such as ubuntu) there is a program called debfoster which helps you to clean up that sort of cruft
[06:47] <c0rrupt_> what port scanner do you guys use with nessus?
[06:47] <biscuit__> I did alsaconf, but alsamixer still won't open
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> how do i turn up volum
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  yes you can. its a feature of the gnome window manager. check for gnome themes sites for cursor themes I think.
[06:47] <kevin06> I have heard a rumour from guyys using other distros that Ubuntu will begin charging for access to the repositories. ANY truth atr ALL to this?
[06:47] <Orborde> Razor-X, Well, I just found the linux-amd64-generic package on breezy and installed it, too. Might that help?
[06:47] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: as in, opening it in another window, or something with menus and stuff?
[06:47] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: nmap is barnone :)
[06:47] <thezombiehunter> nvm
[06:48] <thezombiehunter> Donl: thks
[06:48] <jbull> kevin06:  none whatsoever.
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> i use nmap..
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> but for some reason
[06:48] <Razor-X> Orborde: ......... you're using Breezy?
[06:48] <bimberi> kevin06: no
[06:48] <lui> Razor-X: so nothing like a registry, that's good! But, if I choose "apt-get remove xfce4" it removes all the relatives?
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> nessus isnt adding it to the scanners
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> it is installed though
[06:48] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: How do you turn i up?
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> but i think i installed it after i installed nessusd
[06:48] <DonL> thezombiehunter, you're welcome. Glad to help
[06:48] <Razor-X> kevin06: who said that?
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> would that be the reason why?
[06:48] <thezombiehunter> i turned it up by the headphones
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> and if so,
[06:48] <Razor-X> lui: apt-get doesen't (because it's not advanced enough), aptitude does :)
[06:48] <c0rrupt_> can i add it?
[06:48] <kevin06> Razor-X, Some guys I know who run Mepis.
[06:48] <Orborde> Razor-X, No, I'm using hoary, but was instructed by http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228793&postcount=2 to update the kernel to fix the problem that thread is about.
[06:49] <biscuit__> Grr my system volume is mute bydefault
[06:49] <oceandead> from synaptic just right click on it and choose "mark for complete removal"
[06:49] <biscuit__> How doi turn it up
[06:49] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, ?
[06:49] <c0rrupt_> its instaled but not in the list
[06:49] <Razor-X> kevin06: they've very wrong
[06:49] <c0rrupt_> can i add it somehow?
[06:49] <thezombiehunter> go to ur speaker...at the bottom of taskbar
[06:49] <thezombiehunter> and turn up all
[06:49] <Orborde> Razor-X, Where is menu.lst?
[06:49] <thezombiehunter> Danl: A. how can i play DVDS B. how do i get 3d acelleration
[06:49] <NatureTruth> Dr_Willis:  how do I change the cursor?
[06:49] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: hmmmm, can't you specify the scanner manually?
[06:49] <biscuit__> I don't see a speaker :-(
[06:50] <lui> kevin06: ubuntu will ALWAYS be free of charge, they say
[06:50] <Razor-X> Orborde: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:50] <c0rrupt_> ?
[06:50] <nlghtcrawler> a interface where i can click my mouse instead of the terminal
[06:50] <c0rrupt_> i dunno
[06:50] <thezombiehunter> it WILL always be free of charge
[06:50] <c0rrupt_> its not in the list
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  in the past - ive downloaded some cursor themes from some of the gnome-theme sites.
[06:50] <lui> Razor-X: ok thanks!
[06:50] <kevin06> lui, I know that, it is one of the core things about Ubuntu... But, things do change, and ALWAYS might not be as long as people thing sometimes. That's why I'm askin'
[06:50] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: I use one where I use the keyboard, but it has no buttons or menus, or whatever
[06:50] <DonL> thezombiehunter, go to the Ubuntu site and check out the wiki and the help stuff. It's all there
[06:51] <thezombiehunter> Donl: what do i need to get thou...to many things
[06:51] <Razor-X> nlghtcrawler: it's a limited GUI, because I don't want it to use my Terminal to play videos
[06:51] <Razor-X> but, I compiled mine in so.... *shrugs*
[06:51] <biscuit__> ifyor trying to play a dvd, libdvdcss would be a start
[06:51] <Orborde> Razor-X, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1381
[06:51] <DonL> thezombiehunter, it's been a while since I've done it. But that's where I found the answers
[06:51] <thezombiehunter> damn im happy i got rid of sound blaster 24 bit now
[06:51] <NatureTruth> Dr_Willis:  how do I change the cursor?  I've read some tutorials but it doesnt seem to apply in ubuntu.
[06:51] <rock4f3lla> hi
[06:51] <biscuit__> Why thezombiehunter
[06:52] <rock4f3lla> i'm a newbie.
[06:52] <biscuit__> I can install it on mine
[06:52] <lui> kevin06: then, if things go that way maybe ubuntu will be ashes very soon
[06:52] <Razor-X> kevin06: I don't think the licenses of a majority of the packages Ubuntu uses would allow you to pay for entry to the repositories
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> my sound blaster would NOT let me use sound
[06:52] <rock4f3lla> why ubuntu n not somethin' else??
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> and it would NOT run my mic
[06:52] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, is there a way i can add nmap
[06:52] <c0rrupt_> without re-installing
[06:52] <biscuit__> At least you have sound
[06:52] <biscuit__> Lol
[06:52] <kevin06> anyone know where I can get libdvdcss, since it has vanished from every place I use.
[06:52] <biscuit__> I can't get mine to open
[06:52] <biscuit__> Oh
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> i got rid of it about 25 mins ago got sound in 15 mins
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  i belive you can use the gnome theme insaller and it will do whats needed.. check http://www.gnome-look.org - i havent messed with it in over a year.
[06:52] <biscuit__> kevin06.. ummmmm
[06:52] <thezombiehunter> AFTER soundblaster
[06:52] <biscuit__> Google it
[06:52] <biscuit__> I mite have it
[06:52] <tristanmike> rock4f3lla: casue it's the best! :)
[06:52] <biscuit__> But i have dialup
[06:52] <c0rrupt_> hmm
[06:52] <biscuit__> And don't really wanna send it
[06:53] <c0rrupt_> will update-plugins add it?
[06:53] <thezombiehunter> iv been trying to get soundblaster to work on linux/kubutu/ubuntu never worked and its been months
[06:53] <kevin06> biscuit__, LOL
[06:53] <biscuit__> kevin06, do you happen to have integrated audio in your linux box
[06:53] <DonL> thezombiehunter, it's the only card I've found that works all the time for me
[06:53] <thezombiehunter> Donl sucks to be u lol
[06:53] <Razor-X> Orborde: you have one odd sources.list
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> I got a Audigy2
[06:53] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: not sure, sorry
[06:54] <thezombiehunter> btw do i need to rip the dvds to play it?
[06:54] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[06:54] <c0rrupt_> thanks anyways
[06:54] <Razor-X> Orborde: errr, menu.lst
[06:54] <oceandead> people need to stop buying products from creative
[06:54] <biscuit__> Does anyone have Intel/Realtek Integrated audio that have gotten it to work in ubuntu
[06:54] <kevin06> biscuit__, I do, but it didn't work for me at ALL, no sound whatsoever. Why do you ask?
[06:54] <Orborde> Razor-X, How so?
[06:54] <Razor-X> Orborde: can I see the contents of /boot?
[06:54] <biscuit__> Oh
[06:54] <biscuit__> I can't get mine to work
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  check --->  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beautify_GNOME
[06:54] <biscuit__> I got it configured
[06:54] <biscuit__> But i can't change the volume
[06:54] <thezombiehunter> Do i need to RIP the dvds to get em to play
[06:54] <biscuit__> No
[06:54] <thezombiehunter> btw im talking about movies
[06:55] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: You need the libdvdcss
[06:55] <thezombiehunter> couse whenever i try tp rim em its all fuzzy
[06:55] <biscuit__> I don't think its in the repos anymore
[06:55] <biscuit__> But i wouldn't trust me
[06:55] <Orborde> Razor-X, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1382
[06:55] <kevin06> biscuit__, you have ALSA and that didn't work. Did you unmute everytthing? Have you tried polyaudio? And if yes to all of this, how important is sound. Do you want basics, or do you want like 6.1 channel surround?
[06:55] <Razor-X> !info libdvdcss
[06:55] <thezombiehunter> Biscuit can u give me link
[06:55] <biscuit__> polyaudio
[06:55] <jbull> kevin06:  libdvdcss is in backports, afaik
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> NatureTruth,  doh - thats a gentoo info site. :P my bad.. but it may have some info to get you going.
[06:55] <thezombiehunter> !info livedvdcss
[06:55] <biscuit__> thezombiehunter: I have it
[06:56] <biscuit__> But not sure where i got it
[06:56] <DonL> I'm off for the night. See you later.
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> can ya give it to me
[06:56] <tristanmike> I have it
[06:56] <biscuit__> Ummmmm
[06:56] <Razor-X> !info libdvdcss2
[06:56] <Razor-X> hah
[06:56] <biscuit__> Someone give it to him that has somthing faster than 56 k
[06:56] <biscuit__> Lol
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> !info libdvdcss2
[06:56] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter, do a search in synaptic
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> in what
[06:56] <rob^> Razor-X, its not in any of the repos,
[06:56] <biscuit__> tristanmike: I don't think is there anymore
[06:56] <rob^> it never was
[06:56] <tristanmike> I have it
[06:56] <rob^> yes
[06:56] <biscuit__> I do too
[06:56] <thezombiehunter> i have Kubuntu
[06:56] <biscuit__> Google it
[06:56] <Razor-X> rob^: oh, meh
[06:57] <rob^> it was in an unofficial repo
[06:57] <Razor-X> I never needed libdvdcss2 because.... I don't have a DVD player
[06:57] <kevin06> biscuit__, For me, I only need 2.1 channel sound, for IM sounds, OGG music and occasional video. My solution was to go to a local computer shop and buy a no-name sound card for $4, and I had sound.
[06:57] <rob^> ubotu just does the official ones
[06:57] <ubotu> rob^: I give up, what is it?
[06:57] <biscuit__> :-P
[06:57] <biscuit__> What is polyaudio
[06:57] <kevin06> jbull, Backports? A repository I assume? What is that repo called?
[06:57] <tristanmike> biscuit__, what am I to google?
[06:57] <kevin06> biscuit__, A different sound handler
[06:58] <biscuit__> Can you give me a URL
[06:58] <Razor-X> don't ask me for a particular repo, I have a 64 line sources.list
[06:58] <Razor-X> err,r more than 64
[06:58] <Razor-X> s/,r/r/
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:58] <Razor-X> and, just like my code, I don't comment a thing
[06:58] <jbull> kevin06: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/
[06:59] <Razor-X> backports are official now
[06:59] <Razor-X> !backports
[06:59] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[06:59] <Razor-X> what, grrrr
[06:59] <jbull> precisely
[06:59] <Razor-X> someone changed ubotu's backports
[06:59] <thezombiehunter> do i get the DEB/RPM/TAR.GZ/TAR.BZ2 or what?
[06:59] <thezombiehunter> deb right
[06:59] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: for what?
[06:59] <tgnb> is "breezy" a different repository or something that i need to enable to get newer fglrx drivers?
[06:59] <tristanmike> biscuit__, you said for me to google  libdvdcss what am I looking for??
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> the libdvdcss
[07:00] <biscuit__> Its a package
[07:00] <Razor-X> tgnb: Breezy is the next distribution, it's broken now though
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/
[07:00] <biscuit__> That plays dvds
[07:00] <biscuit__> I think
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> i know
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> but theres diff ones
[07:00] <jbull> Breezy's not that broken atm
[07:00] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: it's a library package that tells applications how to use the dvd
[07:00] <tristanmike> biscuit__, yes, but it's included in the backports
[07:00] <thezombiehunter> i know
[07:00] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: add bacports
[07:00] <Razor-X> s/ac/ack/
[07:01] <tristanmike> thezombiehunter: vlc can be installed via apt-get/synaptic
[07:01] <Orborde> Razor-X, Any cleverness?
[07:01] <Razor-X> Orborde: can I see your /boot ?
[07:01] <tgnb> Razor-X i am reading a howto on install binary ati drivers. i followed the guide but i'm having a problem. i am pretty sure it has to do with the old version of the drivers
[07:02] <Orborde> Razor-X, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1382
[07:02] <gmoore> i'm trying to set up proftpd and i made a new user. he can't connect and the log error is "Limit access denies login". what does that mean? the docs dont mention it
[07:02] <Razor-X> Orborde: cool
[07:02] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, what type of scan do you use for nmap nessus
[07:02] <c0rrupt_> syn?
[07:02] <Razor-X> c0rrupt_: SYN Stealth generally
[07:02] <rock4f3lla> yeah,
[07:02] <rock4f3lla> but why issit da best?
[07:02] <c0rrupt_> nessus built in scanner sucks
[07:03] <Razor-X> if I wanna risk a Buffer Overflow, I just connect scan, but I do that to the machines on my LAN
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> its too slow
[07:03] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: read the manpage
[07:03] <tgnb> the howto said something about driver version 8.12.10 being available in breezy.. can i install the newest drivers 8.14.something via the apt-get or do i have to somehow manually install them
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> yea it lags me out pretty bad
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> scanning wan
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> tcp
[07:03] <c0rrupt_> connect()
[07:03] <rock4f3lla> manpage?
[07:03] <tristanmike> biscuit__, how did you learn that  libdvdcss was taken out?
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> ...
[07:04] <Razor-X> Orborde: did you edit your own menu.lst?
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> manpage?
[07:04] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: .................
[07:04] <Razor-X> yes, manpage
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> whats better in ubuntu compared to fedora?
[07:04] <oceandead> man nmap
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> or windows?
[07:04] <Razor-X> or, M-x man RET nmap :)
[07:04] <biscuit__> I've never heard of backports
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> it dosent detect my ntfs hdd,
[07:04] <Razor-X> !backports
[07:04] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[07:04] <jbull> rock4f3lla:  the manpages
[07:04] <c0rrupt_> ?
[07:04] <Orborde> Razor-X, Only as specified in that forum post I sent you.
[07:04] <rock4f3lla> how am i even supposed to network?
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> 0.o
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> WHAT"S MANPAGGE??
[07:05] <c0rrupt_> its leetskeet
[07:05] <End3r> lol
[07:05] <Orborde> Razor-X, Though I'm looking at it now and the change appears to have disappeared.
[07:05] <jbull> lol
[07:05] <Razor-X> Orborde: but, after you downloadeded the package, did the topic ask you to modify anything?
[07:05] <oceandead> its basically a help page  but more info
[07:05] <tgnb> man page is the "manual" for a given command
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> yeah.
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> but where do i go?
[07:05] <Razor-X> Orborde: ahhh, I see
[07:05] <tgnb> type man man
[07:05] <End3r> where the bloody hell are my headphones? =[
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> and why do i have to lok at it to compare distros?
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> man
[07:05] <tgnb> or man yourcommand
[07:05] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: man foo
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> -.-
[07:05] <Razor-X> where foo is the command
[07:05] <rock4f3lla> ..
[07:05] <Razor-X> the most basic UNIX command :)
[07:05] <tgnb> you dont have to look at it to compare distros
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> i dunt wonna learn about commands.
[07:06] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: there's only one directory here, bub :)
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> i want to compare distros.
[07:06] <tgnb> then linux is not for you :)
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> but i lik eit.
[07:06] <Razor-X> I live in the command line
[07:06] <Razor-X> mmmmmmm
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> i wonna support it as well.
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> but
[07:06] <tgnb> you like it but you dont want to learn about commands.... um ok
[07:06] <tgnb> whatever
[07:06] <Orborde> Razor-X, Has your amazing genius found the problem, or did you find what I did at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=228793&postcount=2 ?
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> so far..i havent tried much, ubuntu, knoppix, yoper, mepis
[07:06] <Luna-Tick> tgnb: come on
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> but,
[07:06] <oceandead> is there a happy medium?
[07:06] <rock4f3lla> they lack one thing or another.
[07:06] <Luna-Tick> The whole point of Ubuntu is for people who don't want to live in the command prompt
[07:06] <tgnb> i was trying to help him :)
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> mepis takes too long to load.
[07:07] <Razor-X> Orborde: first of all, whatever that topic told you to do, you don't have to do it
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> and ubuntu doesnt' detect ntfs.
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> knoppix dosent detect usb
[07:07] <Razor-X> all you have to do is apt-get/aptitude install, or synaptic install it
[07:07] <gmoore> how would i link something in /usr/bin? i have a binary called "irb1.8". how could i create a link to it from "irb"?
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> wth.
[07:07] <super_spy> hi all
[07:07] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: it detects ntfs
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> isn't there something as user friendly as windows?
[07:07] <Razor-X> gmoore: annoying no?
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> it doesnt'.
[07:07] <Orborde> Razor-X, Okay. What do I do instead?
[07:07] <super_spy> how to install xmms on my ubunt ?
[07:07] <tgnb> he asked what a manpage is and why he has to read them to compare distros. i gave clear answers :)
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> ma hdd was crashed.
[07:07] <Razor-X> gmoore: either create an alias, or a symlink
[07:07] <Luna-Tick> Rock: Ubuntu is getting there but is new, Mandrake is pretty good
[07:07] <rock4f3lla> and all it said was boot sector spoilked, and knoppix still detected it.
[07:07] <oceandead> os x
[07:07] <Luna-Tick> for real beginners
[07:07] <gmoore> Razor-X: which would be better for this? :)
[07:07] <Razor-X> Orborde: sudo aptitude install linux-blah, where blah is the version you want
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> (like me...)
[07:08] <rock4f3lla> os x.
[07:08] <rock4f3lla> on an intel chipset?
[07:08] <Razor-X> gmoore: unless you're using some application that depends on the binary ``irb'' existing, an alias
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> Rock: I suggest that you give mandrake a go
[07:08] <Razor-X> rock4f3lla: *cough* it's been done *cough*
[07:08] <super_spy> hi all
[07:08] <oceandead> its been done
[07:08] <oceandead> heh
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> I found it more user-friendly
[07:08] <gmoore> Razor-X: okay, how do i use that
[07:08] <biscuit__> ubuntu can detect and read ntfs
[07:08] <glick> apple is a moron, you know how many people would by macOS for intel?
[07:08] <super_spy> how to install mp3 player on my ubuntu ?
[07:08] <Razor-X> gmoore: you use BASH, I presume?
[07:08] <glick> you know how much money they would make?
[07:08] <biscuit__> Just not write on it
[07:08] <Razor-X> glick: meh :)
[07:09] <glick> thats why apple is a dumbass company that deserves to go under
[07:09] <biscuit__> My external HDD :: NTFS *cough works just fine
[07:09] <Luna-Tick> Yes - It can, but you will have to edit an 'fstab'
[07:09] <oceandead> glick i think part of the prob is worrying about supporting all the hardware
[07:09] <rob^> ubuntu tell super_spy about bmp
[07:09] <rob^> ubotu,  tell super_spy about bmp
[07:09] <Orborde> Razor-X, That's what I did, I think. I installed the package linux-amd64-generic through synaptic from breezy. Hmm....let me reboot and I'll return in a few minutes.
[07:09] <Razor-X> Luna-Tick: or mount it manually every time (like I do)
[07:09] <dell500> anyone here know how to burn a dvd backup with k3b?
[07:09] <super_spy> thanks
[07:09] <Razor-X> Orborde: but, your menu.lst looks redundant, so, I was wondering if you added anything in by hand
[07:09] <tgnb> well Luna-Tick if you can tell me how i can install ati-drivers with working acceleration support in ubuntu on a fresh install on a Thinkpad laptop.. i'll be happy to hear it.. without the command line ;)
[07:09] <biscuit__> kevin06: Are you still there
[07:09] <oceandead> yeah because thats useful
[07:10] <Razor-X> tgnb: write a script for the thing and execute the script?
[07:10] <Orborde> Razor-X, Nothing except for the little bit specified in that link.
[07:10] <thezombiehunter> if ubuntu ever started charging money, and it was just like this, they would go under, couse u have to configure alot of crap right now
[07:10] <Luna-Tick> tgnb: What I meant was not that it is possible to do everything without the command line, but that this is the point of Ubuntu
[07:11] <oceandead> part of using a linux distro
[07:11] <thezombiehunter> ubuntu is ment for alot of things
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> thezombiehunter,  your logic is faulty..  i could use the same logic for windows...
[07:11] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: as I said earlier, I don't think the licenses of the majority of Ubuntu packages would allow you to charge
[07:11] <thezombiehunter> if u want somthing like windows go suse..but im telling u know it will be crap
[07:11] <Luna-Tick> tgnb: Anything that requires the command line is a shortcoming of Ubuntu
[07:11] <thezombiehunter> Razor: lol no kiddin
[07:11] <tgnb> Luna-Tick, ok fair enough :) i still need help with that though.. even on a command line. Razor-X ... can i use apt-get to install the latest drivers or do i have to manually install them
[07:12] <Razor-X> tgnb: apt-get, i'm pretty sure
[07:12] <biscuit__> Linuxant Drivers.. they make you pay....
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> requires a command line.. :P hmm isent the next verion of windows supposed to  have a improved commandline/shell in it?
[07:12] <umboto> im trying to install java via the way the unoffical doc says to but i get E: couldn't find package sun-jre1.5
[07:12] <Razor-X> biscuit__: then their drivers are licensed with pay in mind
[07:12] <umboto> just to note, i did add the extra repos
[07:12] <tgnb> i did apt-get but it installed version 8.0 something
[07:12] <Razor-X> "tell umboto about java
[07:12] <oceandead> yeah, mosad? i think...somethin like that
[07:12] <Razor-X> !tell umboto about java
[07:12] <umboto> thanks you Razor-X
[07:12] <Razor-X> tgnb: I heard the ATI drivers were pretty mediocre
[07:12] <oceandead> but i dont think it will be ready for new release...will be added as update later?
[07:13] <Razor-X> nVidia drivers, on the other hand, are pretty nice :)
[07:13] <Luna-Tick> Dr: Difference between needing a command line and one being useful :). I use a good command line for good scripting etc, but I don't expect to have to set up hardware with the command line.
[07:13] <setite> how can i make f render smaller
[07:13] <oceandead> and backported to xp ....its still gonna suck though
[07:13] <tgnb> Razor-X, yeah but unfortunately this laptop has ati chip in it
[07:13] <co-fanky> hayy
[07:13] <rob^> ubotu, tell tgnb about ati
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  heh you dont want to get me started on some of the odd-ball-back-flips ive had to do on windows for hardware  :P
[07:13] <Razor-X> tgnb: hey, I have a 32 MB TNT 2 RIVA PRO 64 chip
[07:14] <Luna-Tick> Fair enough
[07:14] <cyphase> Quick Poll: Do you think Ubuntu is user-friendly enough for your grandparents?
[07:14] <cyphase> :)
[07:14] <Razor-X> pretty bad stuff, with a crappy default gamma
[07:14] <setite> how can i make FF render smaller
[07:14] <Razor-X> cyphase: before my modifications, I think so
[07:14] <Razor-X> setite: #firefox :)
[07:14] <Razor-X> or #mozilla
[07:14] <Razor-X> whatever
[07:14] <setite> cyphase: no
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  lets say I had a HP printer print a test page and that would power the machine off. :P I used a hammer on the printer.
[07:14] <tgnb> rob^, i have read that ... and when i originally asked about this question i have even referenced that :)
[07:14] <tgnb> rob^, however it doesnt answer my question :)
[07:14] <rob^> tgnb, that how the rest of us do it
[07:14] <Orborde> Razor-X, No cigar.
[07:15] <cyphase> Quick Poll: Do you think Breezy will be user-friendly enough for your grandparents?
[07:15] <cyphase> lol
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> amazing how good it feels to take a hammer to a problematic peice of hardware.
[07:15] <cyphase> Dr_Willis, very
[07:15] <Razor-X> Orborde: do you have a backup of your old menu.lst?
[07:15] <volvoguy> Dr_Willis, or a .22 rifle. ;)
[07:15] <tgnb> rob^, the drivers this installs are too old and wont work with this chip.. i need newer versions which are available but my question is can i use apt-get to install them or do i need to manually do it
[07:15] <rob^> tgnb, manually
[07:15] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, i just uninstalled nessusd and re-installed it
[07:15] <oceandead> you got "office space" on the printer huh
[07:15] <c0rrupt_> nmap is there now
[07:16] <Luna-Tick> Again doctor - you miss my point. When a distro wants to be user-friendly and appeal to people for whom linux is too difficult, anything like these examples which you give should be something on a very long to do list
[07:16] <c0rrupt_> will i still be registered though?
[07:16] <c0rrupt_> for plugins
[07:16] <setite> anyoen in here know? those are dead channels
[07:16] <co-fanky> 
[07:16] <jbull> setite:  what do you want to know exactly?
[07:16] <esc_ape> hello - I am thinking of trying linux again...but I have a question or two.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  of course any things that you think linux should do... windows often fails to do .. i feel the whole idea of 'dumbing down' pc's to idiot user levels.. is doomed to fail.
[07:16] <tgnb> rob^, if i install them manually is there anything i need to watch out for or should the ati installer take care of it just fine? do i need to uninstall the ones i installed with apt-get first?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  of course Ive always though that PALM should make a desktop palm-pilot. :P
[07:16] <volvoguy> esc_ape, ask away. :)
[07:17] <co-fanky> hayy
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> but then people would get mad they couldent install spyware.
[07:17] <oceandead> thing is, there has to be a happy medium
[07:17] <rob^> tgnb, it should be ok, just don't forget to edit your xorg.conf to reflect the new drivers
[07:17] <esc_ape> are there any applications that can copy dvds like in windows (dvdshrink, etc)?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> Spyware! thats what i had to look up for a friend.. ;P off to do some googling.
[07:17] <setite> jbull: why linux FF renders so oddly... the tables are too big... the fonts too small... i can barely fit any page onto my screen versus the same page in windoze
[07:17] <Orborde> Razor-X, Beyond that backup Gedit creates, no.
[07:17] <volvoguy> esc_ape, i haven't used any myself, but i think there's something like "dvd::rip"
[07:18] <jbull> what version of ff are you running?
[07:18] <tgnb> rob^, ok i will try it
[07:18] <Luna-Tick> Dr: There is a difference between dumbing things down and automatically configuring hardware to the best defaults
[07:18] <esc_ape> dvd::rip...I think I remember hearing about that
[07:18] <esc_ape> thanks
[07:18] <volvoguy> esc_ape, no problem. there might be something on ubuntuguide.org about it.
[07:19] <esc_ape> ok cool
[07:19] <setite> 1.0.6
[07:19] <dell500> how is a video dvd suppose to be structured to work on a dvd player??
[07:19] <jbull> setite:  are you running hoary or breezy?
[07:19] <setite> hoary...
[07:20] <oceandead> some people dont work in IT and dont have time to learn... its akin to requiring "you have to be a mechanic before you're issued a drivers license"
[07:20] <tristanmike> good analogy oceandead
[07:20] <jbull> hm...that might be a problem w/gtk+...have you fudged with the font settings?
[07:20] <esc_ape> I remember there was some trouble watching dvds in linux...am I correct?
[07:21] <tristanmike> yes, you have to enable it
[07:21] <volvoguy> esc_ape, i believe the problem is that the decrypter has to be licensed. there are ways of watching dvd's in linux though.
[07:22] <c0rrupt_> =-OOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:22] <BigIslandVegan> Anybody know about using Bluetooth to access the internet through T-Mobile's Unlimited Internet with a Motorola V600, using a PowerBook G4? I do this on Mac OS X and would like to do it on Ubuntu. :-)
[07:22] <Madpilot> esc_ape: the dvd css thing is in hoary-extras. check the wiki
[07:22] <Madpilot> esc_ape: the legality of it is questionable, but it's there...
[07:23] <Orborde> Razor-X, Any ideas? I don't have a pre-new-kernel backup of menu.lst
[07:23] <tristanmike> why is it, when you buy a dvd burner, you still can't watch DVD's?
[07:23] <esc_ape> ok thanks
[07:23] <tristanmike> rhetorical.........
[07:23] <setite> jbull: yea i got those crappy win font package
[07:23] <DukGalNamu> this is getting pretty anoying, firefox is freezing like crazy
[07:23] <setite> i needed it because some sites wouldnt show text
[07:23] <volvoguy> esc_ape, the legality of the *software* is questionable, but i'm pretty sure you're allowed to watch your own or rented dvds. :)
[07:24] <setite> !bluetooth
[07:24] <ubotu> setite: Not a clue
[07:24] <karol_18> server irc.cl
[07:24] <skapple> hi karol_18
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> forgot the /
[07:24] <BigIslandVegan> !bluetooth
[07:24] <x_madbot> where can I find linux-image-2.6.12 (repository)?
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> ohh
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> i need to go for a reboot
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> new kernel
[07:25] <jbull> setite:  ah yes, the old "invisible text" bug--besides the fonts have you played with the dpi?
[07:25] <setite> hey BigIslandVegan try this http://www.tuaw.com/2004/07/31/motorola-v600-cingular-bluetooth-powerbook-heaven/
[07:25] <setite> no
[07:25] <setite> on occasion i zoom the text in or out
[07:26] <setite> when the site loads in the default size its still too spread out... and the font is unreadable
[07:26] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to upgrade to breezy?
[07:26] <setite> there is alot of wasted space in the renderings
[07:26] <BigIslandVegan> thanks
[07:26] <BigIslandVegan> i'll look
[07:26] <Elsidox> do I just change my sourcelist?
[07:26] <setite> myspace.com is a site that does it
[07:26] <jbull> Elsidox:  short answer, yes.
[07:26] <Elsidox> jbull, whats the long answere
[07:26] <Elsidox> =)
[07:26] <jbull> setite:  unreadable font, as in too small?
[07:26] <setite> yes
[07:27] <setite> too small
[07:27] <setite> and the windows fonts suck
[07:27] <tristanmike> why do all these people want to upgrade to an unfinished project?
[07:27] <jbull> Elsidox:  well, the long answer involves fixing whatever breaks when you upgrade, if anything
[07:27] <tristanmike> is there something I'm missing?
[07:27] <setite> they are like windows without cleartype... missing corners and the like
[07:27] <Elsidox> jbull, ok. Thanks.
[07:27] <Ice9> how do I get audio codec for xine?
[07:27] <setite> does linux have a ClearType thing?
[07:27] <volvoguy> tristanmike, some of us are doing testing for the laptop team. that's my excuse anyway. :)
[07:28] <nlghtcrawler> goodnight guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:28] <jbull> setite:  gross. yes, linux does have a "ClearType"-ish thing--autohinting if i'm not mistaken
[07:28] <setite> ??
[07:29] <Ice9> how do I get audio codec for xine? for mpeg layer?
[07:29] <volvoguy> setite, check out /etc/fonts/local.conf
[07:29] <setite> lemme make sure my monitor is in the right reso... everything looks a little too big
[07:29] <dell500> does anyone know what VSI, XVO, and IFO files are for a dvd backup?
[07:29] <jbull> setite:  volvoguy beat me to it
[07:29] <volvoguy> jbull, :)
[07:29] <karol_18> server irc.cl
[07:30] <setite> beat you to what
[07:30] <oceandead> ill do testing for breezy ... same repos just "breezy" instead of "hoary"?
[07:30] <jbull> setite:  the name of the file you should take a look at to see if autohinting is enabled
[07:30] <setite> well he didnt use my name so its hard to pick up in everything
[07:31] <umboto> i installed java and i installed limewire the way the docu said to but nothing happens
[07:31] <setite> volvoguy: nice car... we used to buy volvos alot
[07:31] <tristanmike> volvoguy: I'd just think that if you asking how to upgrade, maybe you're not ready, like me....
[07:31] <volvoguy> oceandead, at the moment we're supposed to just be doing fresh installs of Breezy. you could ask in #ubuntu-laptop though. upgraders may be helpful too.
[07:31] <umboto> i mean like i click the icon for it
[07:31] <setite> we had 4 int he late 80s
[07:31] <c0rrupt_> how can i turn the banner off on proftpd
[07:31] <umboto> but nothing happens
[07:32] <oceandead> ok ill do a fresh install tomorrow :)
[07:33] <setite> i cant tell if its on
[07:33] <setite> jbull: can i msg you a 7 line spam
[07:33] <volvoguy> tristanmike, understandable. i have a box for testing that has been upgrading to breezy since it was made available, but it's definitely not ready for full-time use.
[07:33] <jbull> setite:  sure
[07:33] <setite> <!-- Uncomment below to enable the freetype autohinter module -->
[07:33] <setite> <!--
[07:34] <setite>   <match target="font">
[07:34] <setite>     <edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
[07:34] <setite>       <bool>true</bool>
[07:34] <setite>     </edit>
[07:34] <setite>   </match>
[07:34] <volvoguy> setite, you'll need to restart X for changes to take effect.
[07:34] <setite> shit that didnt work
[07:34] <bimberi> setite: /query works better :)
[07:34] <jbull> setite:  looks like you need to uncomment those lines to turn autohinting on
[07:34] <tristanmike> volvoguy: I wish I had a spare box....
[07:34] <setite> i typed in /msg jbull then pasted the spam... sorry... it spammed... and left /msg jbull in the input
[07:34] <setite> ok yea... i dont know how they are commented
[07:34] <setite> the <> ?
[07:35] <volvoguy> tristanmike, it's nothing fancy. a hand-me-down that's probably not worth $25.
[07:35] <jbull> remove the <!-- before <match target="font"> and the --!> at the end of that section
[07:35] <setite> hey Vegan how is that page working out
[07:35] <tristanmike> lol
[07:35] <setite> just that one line?
[07:36] <billytwowilly> anyone using voip.net? how do I make their voicemail actually act like voicemail?
[07:36] <BigIslandVegan> setite: it's for mac os x, which i have working already
[07:36] <setite> ohhhh i get it
[07:36] <tristanmike> volvoguy: a $25 computer running a $0.00 OS, amazing
[07:36] <setite> oh.... sorry
[07:36] <setite> ill look some more
[07:36] <jbull> setite:  the end bracket should be after </match>
[07:36] <BigIslandVegan> i'm looking too, again...for months :-)
[07:37] <volvoguy> tristanmike, yes. and surprisingly it's useful enough to do real work on sometimes. (the newer .42 of Inkscape is pretty  nice!)
[07:38] <Orborde> Razor-X, So have you given up, then?
[07:39] <OwnageLinux> hey ppl
[07:39] <volvoguy> i need to crash for a while. i'll be back later.
[07:40] <OwnageLinux> guys i just installed ubuntu wat do i type after i log in to get in?
[07:40] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  youve already logged in?
[07:40] <OwnageLinux> yes.
[07:40] <setite> vegan
[07:40] <setite> BigIslandVegan: did you see this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740
[07:40] <BigIslandVegan> I'll look
[07:40] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  so...what exactly do you need to "get in" to?
[07:40] <ray_> hello .......how do i force a cdrom drive to eject?
[07:41] <c0rrupt_> how do i turn off the banner in proftpd
[07:41] <Misos_> How can I make a program load-up on boot?
[07:41] <oceandead> ray_, paperclip
[07:41] <ray_> oceandead, i wish i had one man!!
[07:41] <tgnb> rob^, i manually installed the ati drivers and got them to work for 2d but DRI is not yet working
[07:41] <OwnageLinux> jbull: i wanna get to the desktop...
[07:41] <BigIslandVegan> setite, if i disappear suddenly, don't be offended, my hard drive is dying and freaks out unexpectedly
[07:41] <jbull> ray_: sudo /dev/hdc/ eject doesn't work?
[07:41] <BigIslandVegan> it's a toshiba 80 gb in this powerbook
[07:41] <tgnb> rob^, dri fails to load. the X log says "incompatible kernel module detected HW accelerated OpenGL will not work"
[07:41] <oceandead> hmmm, bend a staple so its stright then?
[07:41] <setite> its not exactly what you need... but with my evdo pc card(cell phone broadband) i had to piece together instructions to get it working
[07:41] <OwnageLinux> jbull: wat do i type to get to the desktop?
[07:41] <setite> BigIslandVegan: no worrieds
[07:41] <tgnb> rob^,  the kernel version is 8.8.25 and the drivers i installed are 8.16.20
[07:41] <ray_> jbull, nope
[07:42] <Misos_> How can I make a program load-up on boot?
[07:42] <Elsidox> BigIslandVegan, runs macosx
[07:42] <OwnageLinux>  jbull: wat do i type to get to the desktop?
[07:42] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  where are you if not at the desktop?
[07:42] <BigIslandVegan> ?
[07:42] <setite> i thought BigIslandVegan runs ubuntu
[07:42] <OwnageLinux> im on a different computer jbull
[07:42] <thegreengiant> hello all
[07:42] <BigIslandVegan> I have both on this computer
[07:42] <oceandead> ray_, paperclip - staple bent so its straight - toothpick
[07:42] <Elsidox> =)
[07:42] <OwnageLinux> im a noob to ubuntu i just installed it on a diff computer
[07:42] <setite> Elsidox: what are you talking abotu?
[07:42] <thegreengiant> anyone using 5.10?
[07:43] <oceandead> anything thin enough and straight
[07:43] <setite> Elsidox: what are you talking aboot?
[07:43] <OwnageLinux> jbull:how do i get to desktop?
[07:43] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  after logging in it should take you straight to the desktop
[07:43] <oceandead> not yet thegreengiant
[07:43] <ray_> oceandead, yeah but.........the software would still consider the drive mounted
[07:43] <setite> .slap Misos_
[07:43] <OwnageLinux> jbull it just gives me ownagelinux@ubuntu: ~$
[07:43] <Misos_> curses
[07:43] <Elsidox> setite, im talking about BigIslandVegan running MacOSX.
[07:43] <setite> what abotu it
[07:43] <Elsidox> nothing
[07:43] <setite> your a crackhead
[07:43] <Elsidox> lol
[07:43] <setite> bah... your wasting time
[07:43] <OwnageLinux> jbull :  jbull it just gives me ownagelinux@ubuntu: ~$... wat do i type
[07:43] <Misos_> Oh ye, follower of Set and the Left Hand Path, surely you can help me out?
[07:44] <oceandead> i had problem today ...wouldnt eject ...i used paperclip ...ejected....put different cd in ....mounted it fine
[07:44] <Elsidox> setite, im glad to see you judge me that way
[07:44] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  try startx
[07:44] <setite> Misos_: for your knowledge i will attempt
[07:44] <thegreengiant> does ubuntu pull from stable or a mix?
[07:44] <setite> whats your problem
[07:44] <OwnageLinux> jbull ive tied startx nothing happens it doesnt recognize command
[07:44] <oceandead> gnome-volume-manager running of course
[07:44] <jtan325> OwnageLinux,
[07:44] <jtan325> try
[07:44] <jtan325> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[07:44] <OwnageLinux> ok
[07:44] <bob2> OwnageLinux: then install x-window-system-core
[07:44] <thegreengiant> ??
[07:44] <Misos_> I want to start a program when my system boots up.
[07:45] <jbull> jtan325:  my second option ;)
[07:45] <setite> which desktop
[07:45] <bob2> but something is terribly wrong if you don't have that installed
[07:45] <setite> gnome?
[07:45] <jtan325> yeah
[07:45] <jtan325> what bob2 said
[07:45] <jtan325> you probably just got to command-line by accident
[07:45] <jtan325> or not?
[07:45] <Nooks_> just quickly:  with reference to the Live CD, is there any really point in running xscreensaver if the ubuntu user has no valid password?
[07:45] <str8edge> has anyone gotten dashboard to build from cvs?
[07:45] <Misos_> setite - were you asking me or jtan?
[07:45] <setite> you
[07:46] <thegreengiant> how easy is the kernel source to get for ubuntu so that i can install nvidia?
[07:46] <Nooks_> because this just screwed me out of my session.  thanks a bunch.
[07:46] <jtan325> Misos_, what do you want to get started
[07:46] <setite> put it on /home/"login"/.kde/Autostart, and in "Sessions">"start programs" on Gnome
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Nooks_,  for the purty pictures :P
[07:46] <Misos_> I boot into command-line
[07:46] <ian_> Nooks_: why did you lose your session?
[07:46] <jbull> str8edge:  dashboard or beagle?
[07:46] <jtan325> and you want to run something when you bootup?
[07:46] <Misos_> I have people runnign MUDs, and I want them to start automatically when the system starts.
[07:46] <OwnageLinux> jtan i got a password thing
[07:46] <jtan325> without loggin in?
[07:46] <OwnageLinux> wats the pw to sudp etc omot thomg
[07:46] <str8edge> jbull: i have beagle 0.12 and mono running in both hoary and breezy, I can't get Dashboard compiled from cvs
[07:46] <thegreengiant> usually if you leave something running when you shutdown it will come back up the next login
[07:47] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, it's the same as your normal user password
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> ok
[07:47] <setite> str8edge: want a beer?
[07:47] <Nooks_> ian : i closed my laptop lid to do something, opened it again and was confronted with an xswcreensaver prompt.  killing xscreensaver meant that none of the apps it was "protecting" would get focus anymore.
[07:47] <Misos_> so, for example, one is /home/user/mud/autorun
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> etf..
[07:47] <str8edge> setite: no thanks.
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> wtf-*
[07:47] <bedi> sooo, now i will upgrade my hoary to breezy... i thing it works fine! =)
[07:47] <Nooks_> and now my one-time passwords are out of sync.
[07:47] <charlie> hi
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> after i type in the pw it says command not found
[07:47] <charlie> I have problem
[07:47] <charlie> with video
[07:47] <charlie> I cant play mpeg
[07:47] <setite> i dont even know what a MUD is
[07:48] <Misos_> text-based game
[07:48] <str8edge> !restricted
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:48] <bob2> Nooks_: I'd file a bug if it's not possible at all to log back in again
[07:48] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, can you explain your problem
[07:48] <dell500> does anyone know what VSI, XVO, and IFO files are for a dvd backup?
[07:48] <Misos_> but that's not important
[07:48] <koxel> Do you installed codec?
[07:48] <jtan325> i wasn't here when you said the first part of your problem
[07:48] <jbull> str8edge:  im not even sure that dashboard is being actively developed atm
[07:48] <Misos_> I just need it to start at boot. =P
[07:48] <OwnageLinux> jtan...: it boots ubuntu.... asks for login and pw
[07:48] <Misos_> like openssh starts, or any other service
[07:48] <Nooks_> bob2, it sure isn't
[07:48] <charlie> hi
[07:48] <ian_> Nooks_: why not?
[07:48] <OwnageLinux> i login and then it says matt@ubuntumatt:~$
[07:48] <Nooks_> where's the BTS for ubuntu?
[07:48] <charlie> I need to play a mpeg
[07:48] <bob2> Nooks_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <OwnageLinux> jtan:  i login and then it says matt@ubuntumatt:~$
[07:48] <str8edge> jbull: I was able to get it running a couple of months ago, before beagle entered hoary & breezy.
[07:48] <bob2> Misos_: what do you want to start?
[07:48] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, there's no desktop?
[07:49] <koxel> charlie, Do you use gstreamer ?
[07:49] <koxel> or xine?
[07:49] <Nooks_> ian_: because ubuntu's entry in /etc/passwd has a ! as the initial character of the second field
[07:49] <OwnageLinux> jtan it doesnt go to a desktop
[07:49] <jtan325> hmm
[07:49] <monoxide> what is the kernel module for software raid support?
[07:49] <charlie> gstreamer?
[07:49] <OwnageLinux> its just at a dos-like screen
[07:49] <str8edge> charlie look in the wiki for restricted formats
[07:49] <Misos_> It's a process, no gui... the file location is /home/user/mud/autorun
[07:49] <str8edge> !restricted
[07:49] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:49] <Misos_> autorun is the file name
[07:49] <charlie> restricted formats?
[07:49] <OwnageLinux> jtan32: wth do i do
[07:49] <Misos_> I don't boot into gdm or kde or anything, I boot into a command-line interface.
[07:49] <bob2> OwnageLinux: how did you manage to not install it properly?
[07:49] <jtan325> OwnageLinux what are you talkinng from right now then?
[07:49] <oceandead> l33t
[07:49] <str8edge> charlie look at what ubotu is saying and folloe the link.
[07:49] <koxel> add universe & multivers in sourcelist
[07:49] <jtan325> a second computer?
[07:49] <bob2> OwnageLinux: you didn't select the "expert" option or anything, did you?
[07:50] <koxel> or
[07:50] <oceandead> heh
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> bob: i dunno :\
[07:50] <koxel> add backport in sourcelist
[07:50] <charlie> ok thanks
[07:50] <koxel> if you use gstreamer .
[07:50] <bob2> OwnageLinux: you just did a default install?
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> how the hell do i fix the problem
[07:50] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, try doing Ctrl+Alt+F7
[07:50] <str8edge> charlie: you're welcome.
[07:50] <bob2> OwnageLinux: no special options, no errors?
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> wats that do tan
[07:50] <setite> yea thats soemthign i cant help with sadly... i only have an inkling of how to do it in KDM..... autostart is a windows curse i remember
[07:50] <koxel> You can install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[07:50] <jtan325> well
[07:50] <jtan325> usually you can switch between desktop and full-screen command terminal
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> lol it did nothing :\
[07:51] <jtan325> with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+F7
[07:51] <jtan325> (F1 goes to terminal mode)
[07:51] <OwnageLinux> i never got to the desktop though..
[07:51] <Misos_> Do you actually belong to te Temple of Set?
[07:51] <jtan325> hmmm
[07:51] <OwnageLinux> im at full screen coomando terminal
[07:51] <str8edge> jbull: any ideas other than using cvs to build both beagle and dashboard from source?
[07:51] <bob2> Misos_: please don't /msg me
[07:51] <jtan325> then how are you talking to us?
[07:51] <bob2> OwnageLinux: "it did nothing"?
[07:51] <jtan325> from a second terminal?
[07:51] <jtan325> second computer i mean?
[07:51] <OwnageLinux> yeds
[07:51] <charlie> thankds
[07:51] <bob2> Misos_: what are you trying to have run automatically?
[07:51] <jtan325> hmm
[07:52] <jtan325> ok OwnageLinux try "gnome-session"
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> after i login on the commando terminal i just get "matt@ubuntumatt:!$
[07:52] <glick> has anyone here set up a cvs server on ubuntu?
[07:52] <Misos_> bob2 - as I said, it's a process more or less - it's a MUD
[07:52] <jbull> str8edge:  i just checked out latest dashboard and it spit some errors at me on make...
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> jtan how do i do gnome session?
[07:52] <jtan325> no
[07:52] <jtan325> type that in
[07:52] <jtan325> and press enter
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> ??
[07:52] <bob2> Misos_: and it's not in ubuntu?
[07:52] <Sutekh_Away> http://www.mudconnect.com/
[07:52] <Misos_> bob 2 - the file locaiton is /home/user/mud/autorun - autorun is the file name, and I want that to run when I boot-up
[07:52] <Nooks_> bob2: well, I should really check the latest version of the Live CD before submitting a bug, I think.  but I will, since this just cost me my ability to work from home
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> type waht in jtan?
[07:52] <str8edge> jbull: me too, you using hoary or breezy right now?
[07:52] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, just type "gnome-session"
[07:52] <jbull> str8edge:  breezy
[07:52] <jtan325> and press enter
[07:52] <Misos_> bob2 - I run it in Ubuntu, but I want to to load when Unbuntu loads
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> ok
[07:53] <Nooks_> (christ, as if I needed another reason that xscreensaver is too fucked-up for words)
[07:53] <bob2> Misos_: but the MUD software isn't included in Ubuntu?
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> with the quotes?
[07:53] <glick> breezy comes out in two months right?
[07:53] <str8edge> jbull: did you use the beagle packages or pull from cvs?
[07:53] <jtan325> no
[07:53] <bob2> Nooks_: heh, less bad than the alternatives, at least
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> doesnt work..
[07:53] <jtan325> jbull, you trying to get beagle working?
[07:53] <Misos_> bob 2 - correct, though OpenSSH isn't included by default either, it still boots-up when Ubuntu does
[07:53] <bob2> Nooks_: and on the plus side, jwz has abandoned it now ;)
[07:53] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, does it say "command not found?
[07:53] <tgnb> what do i have to install to get /usr/src/linux kernel headers?
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> -bash: gnome-session: command not found
[07:53] <jbull> jtan325:  no, trying to help str8edge build dashboard from cvs
[07:54] <jtan325> what's dashboard
[07:54] <jtan325> !dashboard
[07:54] <ubotu> jtan325: Are you smoking crack?
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> jtan:  -bash: gnome-session: command not found
[07:54] <jtan325> lol
[07:54] <jbull> str8edge:  you think that pulling beagle from cvs would fix the build errors?
[07:54] <bob2> tgnb: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:54] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, i think you have a seriously messed up installation then
[07:54] <Nooks_> bob2: that's really very comforting
[07:54] <bob2> OwnageLinux: this system is highly broken
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> so what do i do?
[07:54] <jtan325> reinstall
[07:54] <str8edge> jtan325: dashboard is a search aggregator for beagle. www.nat.org/dashboard
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> ok..
[07:54] <jtan325> and don't do anything funny
[07:54] <str8edge> jbull: we'll find out.
[07:54] <Misos_> bob2 - so do you not know how?
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> but it will install the same way...
[07:54] <jbull> str8edge:  indeed
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> wouldnt it still b fucked?
[07:55] <jtan325> hmm i doubt it
[07:55] <bob2> OwnageLinux: burn a fresh cd, make sure it's ok (ie verify the md5sum) and reinstall, without using any special boot options
[07:55] <jtan325> yeah
[07:55] <esc_ape> I have a Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter. I want to try linux...will this be a problem?
[07:55] <OwnageLinux> bob2 - i just burnt and iso and ran it....
[07:55] <str8edge> jbull: i'm running make on a cvs version of beagle right now
[07:55] <OwnageLinux> didnt do anything weird...
[07:55] <bob2> Misos_: er , of course.  copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to /etc/init.d/whatever, edit it to run your MUD, and then use 'update-rc.d' to install it into the default run level system
[07:55] <jbull> str8edge:  the moment of truth...
[07:55] <OwnageLinux> guys if i reinstall im just gunna get the same fucked up thing again
[07:56] <str8edge> jbull: 1.8 gig celery laptop so it shouldn't take too long :)
[07:56] <bob2> OwnageLinux: why do you think that?
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> cuz i did eeverything normal..
[07:56] <bob2> OwnageLinux: I'm not sure how you could know that if you don't know what went wrong last time
[07:56] <dell500> does anyone know how I can backup a bunch of XVO, IFO, and VSI files??
[07:56] <jtan325> str8edge, that looks tight
[07:56] <str8edge> jbull: it crapped out too
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> ok well ill reinstall and see if it works... tommorow
[07:56] <str8edge> ./configure: line 20666: `AC_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.23)'
[07:56] <glick> scuse me isnt there a better circuit schematic design tool than dia
[07:56] <glick> ?
[07:56] <dell500> !xvo
[07:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, dell500
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> bob2: ill reinstall 2morrow.. im out now peace
[07:56] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, it took me like 3 installations before i got things completely right
[07:56] <bob2> OwnageLinux: check the md5sum of the disk, first.
[07:56] <jbull> str8edge:  what kind of error?
[07:56] <jtan325> so yea
[07:56] <dell500> !XVO
[07:56] <ubotu> dell500: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:56] <bimberi> esc_ape: Have a look for your card here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:56] <str8edge> jtan: it runs linux fine..
[07:56] <Misos_> bob 2 - /etc/init.d/whatever? =P
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> bob2 how do i check the md5 sum?
[07:57] <dell500> !VOB
[07:57] <ubotu> Wish i knew, dell500
[07:57] <str8edge> jbull: checking for wsdl... /usr/bin/wsdl
[07:57] <str8edge> ./configure: line 20666: syntax error near unexpected token `0.23'
[07:57] <str8edge> ./configure: line 20666: `AC_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.23)'
[07:57] <bob2> OwnageLinux: do you have an existing linux install?
[07:57] <jtan325> bob2, you helped me out with my wireless problems a few days ago
[07:57] <bob2> str8edge: please use #flood
[07:57] <OwnageLinux> well bob.... i just installed it over a windows me
[07:57] <bob2> jtan325: still working?
[07:57] <OwnageLinux> and no... thats my only linux
[07:57] <jtan325> bob2, yeah. i was just wondering if there's a command line way
[07:57] <str8edge> bob2: can do.
[07:57] <jtan325> to tell the os to "use" eth0 or wlan0
[07:57] <jtan325> if both were plugged in
[07:58] <OwnageLinux> peace.
[07:58] <bob2> jtan325: sure, use ifplugd
[07:58] <jtan325> hmm ok
[07:58] <bob2> OwnageLinux: boot using the "expert" option, then select "verify cd" from the menu
[07:58] <bob2> OwnageLinux: if it's ok, reboot and d oa normal install
[07:58] <jtan325> what are the relevant command line stuff related to networking? dhclient, ifconfig, iwconfig, ifplugd....
[07:59] <bob2> dhclient lets you request things from a dhcp server
[07:59] <bob2> ifconfig configures network-related stuff for interfaces
[07:59] <bob2> iwconfig twiddles wireless setggins
[07:59] <jbull> str8edge:  make succeeded for me
[07:59] <bob2> ifplugd is a daemon that runs and detects cables being plugged in
[07:59] <str8edge> jbull: I'm apt-getting intltool as we speak
[07:59] <jtan325> ok and i really don't have to do anything to get wireless working on bootup do i ?
[08:00] <jtan325> as long as there's stuff in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:00] <bob2> correct
[08:00] <BigIslandVegan> setite, thanks for being friendly, have a good one
[08:00] <c0rrupt_> helllllllllo
[08:00] <bob2> I'm too lazy to automate any of it, so I just use dhclient and "ip" to configure things as I go
[08:00] <c0rrupt_> how can i remove the banner with proftpd
[08:02] <str8edge> jbull: not it wants sqlite :)
[08:02] <jtan325> bob2, is there a way to get ifplugd to run during bootup
[08:02] <bob2> jtan325: presumably it does that by default
[08:02] <c0rrupt_> why are these repos using outdated software
[08:02] <jtan325> after installation?
[08:03] <jbull> str8edge:  not to worry--even with beagle cvs, build still fails..
[08:03] <c0rrupt_> bob2 how often are the repos updated
[08:03] <niran> did anyone's mono apps stop working in breezy
[08:03] <niran> ?
[08:03] <str8edge> thanks for the update.
[08:03] <niran> "The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache"
[08:03] <str8edge> niran: i'm using f-spot, beagle, and tomboy right now
[08:03] <bob2> c0rrupt_: repos of what?
[08:03] <jbull> niran:  what str8edge said
[08:03] <niran> str8edge, ok, thanks
[08:03] <c0rrupt_> the main repositories
[08:03] <c0rrupt_> for ubuntu
[08:04] <bob2> c0rrupt_: of what?
[08:04] <str8edge> niran: I had to install a few more packages using synaptic, but it all works.
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> community supported
[08:04] <bob2> c0rrupt_: hoary is obviously frozen, so it doesn't get updated
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> ?
[08:04] <bob2> c0rrupt_: breezy is updated every 15 minutes
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> wtf
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> can i use breezy?
[08:04] <bob2> no
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> so
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> im stuck using old, exploitable software?
[08:04] <bob2> yes, exactly
[08:04] <bob2> ubuntu even adds extra remote exploits
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> why cant i use breezy...
[08:04] <bob2> because it's KWALITY
[08:05] <bob2> of course it's not exploitable
[08:05] <bob2> hoary gets immediate security updates
[08:05] <str8edge> niran: I also have a couple of other mono apps running.. BLAM! and monothea (dvd catalogue app)
[08:05] <jtan325> c0rrupt_, just read some of the bug reports
[08:05] <bob2> in a seperate repository
[08:05] <jtan325> about breezy
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> ?
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> im confused
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> for example.
[08:05] <niran> str8edge, ok, i'm just going to reinstall my mono stack
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> im using proftpd
[08:05] <bob2> c0rrupt_: you can use it if you want, but it's the development version, so things break
[08:05] <str8edge> niran: cool.
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> ah
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> well
[08:05] <bob2> c0rrupt_: if a hole is found in proftpd, it gets fixed in the hoary-security repository
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> well
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> there is a hole
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> and
[08:05] <bob2> running breezy on a server you want security fixes for is dumb
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> and
[08:06] <str8edge> c0rrupt_: stuff breaks bad in breezy.
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> ok
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> i wont use breezy but
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> in proftp
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> d
[08:06] <bob2> c0rrupt_: try putting a whole sentence on one line
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> sorry, everyone tells me that
[08:06] <lee_> ok
[08:06] <bob2> it's extraordinarily annoying
[08:06] <bob2> c0rrupt_: if there's an unfixed hole in proftp, tell the security team
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> well, there is a hole in proftpd. and when i apt-get upgrade, it says eveyrhting is up to date
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> how can i tell the security team
[08:07] <bob2> c0rrupt_: did you configure apt to use the security repositories?
[08:07] <c0rrupt_> want to look at my sources.list?
[08:07] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, you should tell pitti in #ubuntu-devel. he works on many of the security updates
[08:07] <str8edge> corrupt_: try adding the following line to your sources.list "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted"
[08:07] <c0rrupt_> i think i have that add already
[08:07] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, it's not here https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/errorreferencefolder_view
[08:08] <c0rrupt_> yea, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricte was already added
[08:08] <sudarta> help me
[08:08] <str8edge> jbull: thanks for the help. have a good night
[08:08] <c0rrupt_> so
[08:08] <bob2> sudarta: you need to ask a question...
[08:08] <jbull> str8edge:  np you too
[08:08] <kevor> sudarta - just ask the questen, read the faq
[08:08] <bob2> c0rrupt_: oh, proftp is in universe
[08:08] <c0rrupt_> ?
[08:09] <bob2> c0rrupt_: tell #ubuntu-motu
[08:09] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, proftpd is in universe so it doesn't get official security support
[08:09] <c0rrupt_> oh.
[08:09] <sudarta> i need help on setting up Logitech webcamexpress on my ubuntu
[08:09] <c0rrupt_> what should i tell them, exactly
[08:09] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, if you want the version from breezy, just add a breezy "source" source and "apt-get build-dep proftpd ; apt-get source -b proftpd"
[08:10] <bimberi> of course there's always vsftpd
[08:10] <sudarta> tnx bob, I am Indonesian with terrible english.... :( but my dictionary is here...;)
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> i have build-dep installed
[08:10] <jasoncohen> build-dep isn't a packaged
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> whats -b do
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> i know
[08:10] <jasoncohen> apt-get build-dep package will install the build dependencies to build that package from source
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> its all the tools needed for building right
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> oh
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> like
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> -f
[08:11] <jasoncohen> -b is to build after downloading the source
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> sorry i did it again
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> how can i remove the banner from popping up in proftpd on connect
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> so at least people cannot tell my version
[08:11] <karol_18> rver irc.cl
[08:12] <sudarta> i need help on setting up Logitech webcamexpress on my ubuntu
[08:12] <bob2> c0rrupt_: that's unlikely to help at all
[08:12] <c0rrupt_> ..
[08:12] <bob2> people tend to just try exploits
[08:12] <c0rrupt_> true.
[08:12] <c0rrupt_> real pentesters exploit live
[08:13] <kevor> i'm a people, i never use exploids :P
[08:13] <kevor> yo Seveas
[08:13] <c0rrupt_> heh
[08:13] <kevor> is it ok to use linux and not be a 31337 h4x0r?
[08:13] <c0rrupt_> NIENNN
[08:13] <kevor> O_o
[08:14] <c0rrupt_> you will get hizh4xed to the m00n
[08:14] <oceandead> <- not 1337 h4x0r
[08:14] <kevor> but i dun wanna :(
[08:14] <c0rrupt_> hide in windows!
[08:14] <kevor> i have windows :) lots of 'm
[08:14] <kevor> managed by uhm, guess i'm running xfce4 here
[08:14] <hondje> I have one less today :-( Damn neighbors
[08:15] <hondje> yeah, wrong chan....
[08:15] <kevor> hehe, cute lil' doggy :D
[08:15] <kevor> so there are no more ppl that need help?
[08:16] <talios> ...i have this infection...?
[08:16] <kevor> you got lumps on ur penis?
[08:16] <hondje> I call her my gf
[08:16] <oceandead> heh
[08:16] <ian> hello ppl...does anybody used sql ledger ?
[08:16] <kevor> you girlfriend is lumpy?
[08:16] <kevor> nice!
[08:17] <hondje> :-)
[08:17] <hondje> In all the right places
[08:17] <ubuntu> hi all of u
[08:17] <ian> join #sql-legdger
[08:18] <ubuntu> dos this work?
[08:18] <hondje> Yes, it works
[08:18] <ubuntu> realy
[08:18] <kevor> yes ubuntu, we can  read the crap ur spitting at ur ircclient
[08:18] <Misos_> Can I upgrade to breezy using apt-get?
[08:18] <bob2> Misos_: of course
[08:18] <kevor> sure, but do you want to Misos_
[08:18] <bob2> Misos_: but it's not a very good idea
[08:19] <Misos_> I run Ubuntu inside of VMWare, I am still playing with it
[08:19] <Misos_> =P
[08:19] <hondje> why wouldn't you want to?
[08:19] <ubuntu> can u vice chat on here??
[08:19] <Misos_> what's the package name for it?
[08:19] <hondje> other than breezy being breezy
[08:19] <kevor> never understoot ppl who use VMwhere
[08:19] <bob2> ubuntu: "vice chat"?
[08:19] <bob2> if your addiction is ubuntu-related, I guess so
[08:19] <ubuntu> vove chat
[08:19] <bob2> Misos_: package name for what? breezy?
[08:20] <Misos_> es
[08:20] <Misos_> Yes*
[08:20] <ubuntu> SORRY Voce chat
[08:20] <bob2> Misos_: it's not a package, it's a suite of packages, just like hoary
[08:20] <Ice9> is rob^ here?
[08:20] <bob2> ubuntu: dude, "voice"?
[08:20] <Misos_> So how do I apt-get it? =P
[08:20] <Misos_> apt-get install breezy
[08:20] <Misos_> ?
[08:20] <bob2> Misos_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, point it at breezy instead of hoary
[08:20] <kevor> haha ubuntu stop spilling cola on your keyboard
[08:20] <bob2> Misos_: no, it's not a package.  each ubuntu suite is a set o fpackages.
[08:20] <ubuntu> Some one just gave me this disk
[08:21] <Misos_> I see
[08:21] <Orborde> Some browser plugins (Flash, Adobe) do not seem to want to work under AMD64 Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[08:21] <bob2> Orborde: if you care about binary-only stuff, use the i386 port
[08:21] <bob2> it's a lot simpler
[08:21] <ubuntu> mmm why not
[08:21] <Ice9> can somebody please walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my radeon 9250? I've tried everything
[08:22] <MrPockets> should Linux be running my system hotter then Windows :-x ?
[08:22] <kevor> Misos_ change the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list then run $ apt-get upgrade
[08:22] <bob2> Ice9: I'm pretty sure you don't have to do anything
[08:22] <bob2> no
[08:22] <hondje> MrPockets: Ubuntu will, because it's an african distro and prefers the heat
[08:22] <bob2> you run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:22] <bob2> or, better still, use aptitude
[08:22] <MrPockets> hondje that was horrable
[08:22] <Ice9> bob2, then why doesn't or work?
[08:22] <ubuntu> LOL
[08:22] <MrPockets> i mean ive heard bad... but wow
[08:22] <hondje> I tried though :-)
[08:22] <kevor> Misos_: do like bob said :P
[08:23] <bob2> Ice9: you haven't defined "not work" yet; my ibook had hardware acceleration working from the first time X started
[08:23] <MrPockets> its still only 15, so its pretty damn outta climate
[08:23] <ubuntu> this is good
[08:23] <Ice9> I've done everything the !ati link tells me, and I'm still getting like 35 fps with glxgears, and even when I test it
[08:24] <ubuntu> it work jus on the disk
[08:24] <evo> ok so how do i enable the glx backend for libglitz ?
[08:24] <bob2> uninstall firgl, for a start
[08:24] <c0rrupt_> ok, ive informated the people in motu
[08:24] <bob2> er, firegl
[08:24] <Ice9> I don't think I have that installed
[08:24] <c0rrupt_> they are examining my nessus-scan log
[08:25] <bob2> Ice9: well, it should have worked by default
[08:25] <bob2> if you messed with it, it's probably more broken
[08:25] <bob2> so undo everything you did
[08:25] <Ice9> I agree lol, but it didn't
[08:25] <Orborde> I could dual-boot both the AMD64 and i386 kernels from GRUB, can't I?
[08:26] <ubuntu> I am going to tray to lorn more opn what to do on this progrem
[08:26] <bob2> Orborde: well, yeah
[08:26] <bob2> Orborde: how would that help, tho?  your issue is that you have a 64-bit userland
[08:26] <Orborde> bob2, Did you have a better option?
[08:27] <bob2> I'd just not bother with flash, personally
[08:27] <Orborde> bob2, What do you mean?
[08:27] <ubuntu> i am no good on taping
[08:27] <bob2> another option would be installing a 32-bit firefox
[08:27] <bob2> I'd think the one from mozilla.org would work with ia32-libs
[08:27] <bob2> a chroot is the nuclear-hammer solution
[08:27] <blt> ubuntu, quick question. Might you be a troll?
[08:28] <cafuego> not wanting flash is the sane solution
[08:28] <cafuego> (I assume that's the problem)
[08:28] <ubuntu> thaks to all of you
[08:29] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone!
[08:29] <MrPockets> GREETINGS!
[08:29] <c0rrupt_> HI
[08:29] <MrPockets> schalome!
[08:29] <oceandead> yes, you?
[08:31] <kevor> anyone here know of an ass graphical ftp client (like FlashFxp) for linux?
[08:31] <kevor> ass = oss
[08:31] <cafuego> kevor: they're all ass (they all smell like shit)
[08:31] <c0rrupt_> OH MY GOSH, ITS QUARTER TO ORANGE
[08:31] <Ice9> ubuntu is still using the mesa opengl drivers, what gives
[08:31] <cafuego> Ice9: You ddin't tell it otherwise?
[08:32] <c0rrupt_> ice, you are a troubled soul
[08:32] <Determinist> lo guys
[08:32] <c0rrupt_> lo.?////
[08:32] <Ice9> how can I tell it otherwise?
[08:32] <c0rrupt_> ..
[08:32] <c0rrupt_> plug in your mic
[08:32] <cafuego> Ice9: Configure X to use the right glx driver.
[08:32] <kevor> but don't scream, it will not listen
[08:33] <c0rrupt_> ubuntu doesnt like loud voices
[08:33] <MrPockets> will the i386 distro of Ubuntu still run on an AMD K6-2?
[08:33] <kevor> exactly, only wants to hear smooth sexy voices
[08:33] <cafuego> MrPockets: yes
[08:33] <bob2> FXP is the thing warez kiddies use to transfer stuff between warez hosts, right?
[08:33] <Ice9> the reconfigure xserver xorg thing?
[08:33] <drunken-wallaby> i have a problem connection to a wireless network. sudo iwlist wlan0 scan returns the uni network i want to connect to. does this mean, that my wireless card is configured properly?
[08:33] <oceandead> <- runs k6-2 on i386
[08:33] <kevor> MrPockets: amd k6-2? hahaha that's old-school :D
[08:33] <Determinist> if i have ddclient (a dns update client for dyndns - dynamic host), where should i run it from (what script...) but not as a daemon, just once during system bootup?
[08:33] <kevor> had one of those :P
[08:33] <bob2> drunken-wallaby: it means it's detected and capable of scanning
[08:33] <c0rrupt_> add it to bootmish.sh
[08:34] <bob2> Determinist: it should run fine by default
[08:34] <MrPockets> kevor yeah i got this piece of a system, restoring her but i dont wanna put cash into it
[08:34] <c0rrupt_> in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[08:34] <Determinist> bob2: not if i havent installed it yet...
[08:34] <c0rrupt_> Determinist, did you hear me?
[08:34] <cafuego> !info linux-image-2.6.10-5-k6
[08:34] <kevor> MrPockets: Just install ubuntu, but you'd be better off installing a lightweight windows manager on a machine like that. Gnome can be rather a handfull
[08:34] <c0rrupt_> use kubuntu
[08:34] <Determinist> c0rrupt_: ohh, sorry, using irssi through ssh, not used to this colour scheme
[08:34] <cafuego> Doesn't look like there is a specific -k6 kernel, though.
[08:34] <c0rrupt_> down with gnome
[08:34] <bob2> Determinist: then install it...
[08:35] <x_or> Anyone here installed RAID using mpt370 driver?  Can I use it during install?
[08:35] <kevor> Gnome > *
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> NIEN!
[08:35] <kevor> YIES
[08:35] <Determinist> ok , gonna try... bbl
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> kde > gnome
[08:35] <cafuego> Is that software raid?
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> long live kubuntu!
[08:35] <bob2> x_or: if it's real hardware raid, there should be no [problem at all
[08:35] <MrPockets> i was going to go with DSL, but thats kinda small
[08:35] <tomaj> is it best to recompile the kernel using the wiki guide (which causes errors for me) or use the linux-source package from synaptic?
[08:35] <cafuego> c0rrupt_: #playtime is there -->
[08:35] <bob2> tomaj: why do you need to recompile it?
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> i dont see another arrow
[08:35] <kevor> dun see :I(
[08:35] <inva|id> why is xwd missing in breezy?
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> cafuego, has me confused. maybe its cause hes gay?
[08:36] <tomaj> bob2 i need ntfs write and all the other options suggested aren't working or to much trouble or to risky
[08:36] <c0rrupt_> no problem against gay people.. they just get me confused
[08:36] <x_or> bob2:  It seems like it, but when I get to partition step it sees two drives.
[08:36] <cafuego> c0rrupt_: Do you have anything to contribute or are you just here to troll?
[08:36] <x_or> bob2:  I've gone through the process in BIOS to setup the hardware RAID, but no go.
[08:36] <monoxide> what is the kernel module for software raid support?
[08:36] <Elsidox> I just upgraded to breezy and x wont startx. I get this error x something i snot executable
[08:36] <c0rrupt_> fine fine.. im sorry cafuego im trying to help, im just having a little fun. ill keep my side talk in another channel. *kisses your feet*
[08:36] <Elsidox> can anyone help?
[08:37] <monoxide> i setup a software raid array in the installer, but its not using it now...
[08:37] <kevor> Elsidox: check the topic :)
[08:37] <cafuego> monoxide: 'md'
[08:37] <Elsidox> kevor: the topic does not help my problem
[08:37] <bob2> tomaj: the ntfs write support in the kernel is known-broken
[08:37] <oceandead> hahaha
[08:37] <inva|id> can any breezy users check to see if their xwd is missing, or if it is just me?
[08:38] <bob2> tomaj: if you want to be able to write to it, either don't, or use captive-ntfs (which shouldn't require a recompile)
[08:38] <tomaj> bob2 i used it before with 2.6.8 and it seemed to work
[08:38] <kevor> Elsidox: ok, that's true, what's the error?
[08:38] <bob2> inva|id: lots of X binaries are MIA; what does packages.ubuntu.com say?
[08:38] <cafuego> inva|id: xwd what?
[08:39] <monoxide> cafuego, where would the raid array show up? what device?
[08:39] <monoxide> oe how do i reset up the array?
[08:39] <tomaj> bob2 but u need lufs for captive and from the sounds of it that's a dodgy program
[08:39] <cafuego> monoxide: /dev/md0
[08:39] <bob2> tomaj: anything that throws windows code into the kernel is going to be dodgy
[08:39] <cafuego> monoxide: You admin it using mdadm
[08:39] <itay> hi!
[08:39] <monoxide> cafuego, well, thats not there. i just loaded the module with modprobe and nothing
[08:39] <bob2> hte native ntfs driver is guaranteed to corrupt the filesystem, tho, afaik
[08:39] <inva|id> i'll poke around packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <Elsidox> kevor: /etc/x11/x is not excutable
[08:39] <cafuego> monoxide: Is /dev/md0 in /etc/fstab?
[08:39] <tomaj> so does that mean lufs is better than kernel ntfs writing?
[08:39] <monoxide> cafuego, no
[08:40] <bob2> I'd try to avoid either, very hard
[08:40] <cafuego> monoxide: Why would it start then?
[08:40] <itay> I'm trying to run a X applaction, but I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". What can I do?
[08:40] <monoxide> cafuego, the device isnt even there, but i set it up inside the ubuntu installer
[08:40] <Elsidox> kevor: any ideas?
[08:40] <cafuego> monoxide: Did you set it up AND make it mount, or did you ONLY set it up?
[08:41] <monoxide> i told it to mount to /home
[08:41] <cafuego> monoxide: What do kern.log and syslog have to say about it?
[08:41] <tomaj> bob2 so does that mean lufs is better than kernel ntfs writing?
[08:42] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to make a file exautable from the command line?
[08:42] <hondje> Elsidox: chmod +x <filename>
[08:42] <oceandead> sudo chmod +x
[08:42] <monoxide> and the installer also forgot to add sata_via to the bootup modules, so i had troubles booting because all my text editors where on my sata drive which had the /usr partition
[08:42] <bob2> tomaj: what's so essential about writing to NTFS in this case?
[08:42] <Elsidox> hondje: oceandead thank you
[08:42] <cafuego> monoxide: which installer did you use?
[08:42] <tomaj> im using both windows and linux and i want to transfer files from linux to windows
[08:43] <bob2> tomaj: you don't have aany space to make a fat32 partition?
[08:43] <tomaj> nope its all used up
[08:43] <itay> what can I do to fix the problem?
[08:43] <tomaj> bob2 windows is even on a separate hdd
[08:43] <cafuego> tomaj: Windows can read your ext2 and ext3 partitions.
[08:43] <c0rrupt_> omgashz0r
[08:43] <cafuego> tomaj: (and write to them...)
[08:43] <c0rrupt_> windows cant* read ext2 and ext3
[08:43] <chrismy> hi all
[08:43] <c0rrupt_> =-o
[08:44] <tomaj> cafuego how do you set that up? that would work fine as well
[08:44] <ian> how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:44] <bob2> it can with an extra program
[08:44] <oceandead> i transfer using a windows share
[08:44] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to configure x from the command line?
[08:44] <c0rrupt_> that program i do not know about
[08:44] <cafuego> tomaj: Let me have a look...
[08:44] <tomaj> thanx buddy
[08:44] <hondje> Elsidox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:44] <bob2> Elsidox: it might be eaiser if you tell us the whole mess you're in
[08:44] <ian> hello...how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:44] <Elsidox> hondje: thanks
[08:44] <Elsidox> bob2: well if you willing to listen I will. =)
[08:44] <Elsidox> your*
[08:44] <manish> hi.  I just installed ubuntu and am having a problem with my environment setup.  It seems that after logging on the console, my .bash_profile is not being read.  However, if I remote login using ssh it is read and my environment is being setup properly.  I am using gnome - and it seems gdm is not starting bash as a login shell and as a result the .bash_profile is not read.  Can someone give me some suggestion - what I need to do to ensure tha
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[08:45] <bob2> I don't think anyone could possibly guess if they could help you or not before hearing the problem
[08:45] <Ice9> man! There has to be way to get 3d acceleration going! I'm so stumpt!
[08:45] <tomaj> cafuego does that read ext3?
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: I've used that on XP to read from and write to ext3.
[08:45] <bob2> manish: did you read the INVOCATION section of the bash manpage?
[08:45] <chrismy> how can i know whether or not I have MySQL enabled? by looking at the first part of the http://localhost/testphp.php?
[08:45] <tomaj> champion
[08:45] <ekimus> manish: configure the gnome-terminal to be a login shell
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: Just make sure the disk is maked as clean when you mount it under Windows.
[08:45] <bob2> Ice9: did you undo everything you did yet, then put your X log and config file on the web somewhere?
[08:45] <cafuego> marked as clean
[08:45] <tomaj> thanx heaps cafuego
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: np
[08:45] <Elsidox> bob2: I know we should be using breezy but I couldnt wait. So I upgraded. Now when gdm trys to run I get this error "/etc/xll/x is nto executable" but I have made it executable
[08:46] <tomaj> cafuego how do you mean maked as clean?
[08:46] <bob2> chrismy: "enabled"?  do you mean "How can I tell if I have the php4 mysql module installed and setup?"?
[08:46] <manish> how do i configure my gnome terminal to be a login shell?
[08:46] <cafuego> tomaj: Make sure it unmounts cleanly when Linux shuts down
[08:46] <Ice9> bob2, no because there's somebody with the same problem that hasn't been solved yet
[08:46] <giggsey> Is there an easy way to install GTK+ 2
[08:46] <bob2> Elsidox: that's a symlink, it's permissions don't matter
[08:46] <ekimus> manish: right click?
[08:46] <bob2> manish: look in their preferences menu
[08:46] <chrismy> bob2, i think so...i do not know the term what to call that :)
[08:46] <bob2> giggsey: install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:46] <cafuego> tomaj: if you hit reset, Linux would normally run fsck at bootup. If fsck NEEDS to be run, those windows utils will refuse to mount the partition.
[08:46] <tomaj> cafuego how do you ensure that? because when i shut down i get some didnt unmount error because some device was busy, not sure which device though so...
[08:46] <manish> jyes i read the INVOCATION section of bash shell - i just don't know how it get invoked from gdm
[08:46] <monoxide> cafuego, the boot up installer on the cd?
[08:46] <Elsidox> bob2: well im a newb to linux so could you explain to me? =)
[08:47] <ian> hello????
[08:47] <fluffybunny_> i'm having a problem with my help files - there don't seem to be any. Any time I click on Help in an application, either nothing happens, (or occasionally, I get error messages)
[08:47] <giggsey> bob2: so do it all from source?
[08:47] <ian> please help me..:(
[08:47] <bob2> chrismy: install php4-mysq. enjoy!
[08:47] <cafuego> tomaj: probably device 'none'
[08:47] <ekimus> manish: gdm does _NOT_ invoke bash
[08:47] <tomaj> cafuego oh ok so it just wont mount, well thats fine lol so long as it doesnt break it
[08:47] <bob2> Elsidox: reinstalling is the simplest soloution
[08:47] <ekimus> manish: gnome-terminal does that
[08:47] <tomaj> cafuego wtf is device none?
[08:47] <tomaj> lol
[08:47] <Elsidox> bob2: =( but than I wouldnt have breezy
[08:48] <giggsey> nvm bob2, I can get libgtk2.0-dev via apt-get
[08:48] <manish> ekimus:  ok.  do u know how i get gnome-terminal to call bash then?
[08:48] <ian> how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:48] <bob2> giggsey: yes
[08:48] <oceandead> you can get breezy .iso
[08:48] <Elsidox> bob2: I do know what a syslink is. I just dont know what to link.
[08:48] <bob2> Elsidox: yes, breezy is not ready for new users yet
[08:48] <ekimus> manish: no query please
[08:48] <Elsidox> oceandead: im out of blank disk
[08:48] <bob2> Elsidox: /usr/bin/X, I'd think
[08:49] <Elsidox> bob2: I would link that to what?
[08:49] <chrismy> bob2, i have done what was said in the ubuntu wiki. but i want to check whether or not MySQL is successfully setup
[08:49] <tomaj> booting to windows bbs
[08:49] <manish> ekimus:  what do u mean by no query please?  should i go read up on gnome-terminal to find that out?
[08:49] <ekimus> manish: right click in the gnome terminal and 'edit profile' (I'm not using english locales so I don't know the exact wording)
[08:49] <ekimus> manish: i mean do not message me
[08:50] <zoexi> hello
[08:50] <manish> ekimus:  is gnome-terminal the one that opens up after i login on the console, with gnome as the window manager?
[08:50] <Ice9> I'm doomed!
[08:50] <Elsidox> Ice9: your not the only one
[08:50] <zoexi> can anyone give me media player advice?
[08:50] <giggsey> xmms
[08:51] <giggsey> -_-
[08:51] <Hikaru79> zoexi, for video I reccomend vlc highly.
[08:51] <zoexi> totem doesn't work,
[08:51] <ekimus> manish: just to make clear do you use gdm to log in or the console? (because you were talking about gdm before)
[08:51] <zoexi> ok,
[08:51] <Elsidox> zoexi: for video id use gxine
[08:51] <giggsey> zoexi: get XMMS, its the winamp of linux
[08:51] <Hikaru79> zoexi, vlc has all codecs built into the player, so you don't need to bother with tracking down all those divx, xvid, etc
[08:51] <anacron> giggsey: isn't there a real winamp for linux :D
[08:51] <bob2> Elsidox: er? you link the broken symlink to that.
[08:51] <giggsey> there is?
[08:51] <ian> hello ppl...please help me..how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:51] <giggsey> I read something about an alpha
[08:51] <anacron> i think you can get it somehow
[08:51] <bob2> chrismy: you need to be a lot more specific
[08:52] <bob2> chrismy: are yo utalking about the php mysql module? the mysql server? somrthing else?
[08:52] <oceandead> <- xmms, vlc and player
[08:52] <bob2> ian: depends on the applicaton
[08:52] <anacron> ian: right click?
[08:52] <manish> ekimus:  i think it is gdm.  I am using run level 5, and have the graphic (X) login screen. not the text based one - where you loging and then startx.
[08:52] <Elsidox> bob2: im so confused I guess ill just reinstall and stick with hory. Thanks for trying thow. Peace.
[08:52] <oceandead> *mplayer
[08:53] <ian> bob2: like i always use a ftp client and i installed it...i always...used terminal to access..the gftp..i want to put it in the menu... how do put in the menu?
[08:53] <ekimus> manish: ok so the procedure is: log in. start a gnome terminal (Applications, System...) and edit the curent profile. then under "title and command" (something like that) "run as login shell"
[08:53] <giggsey> configure: WARNING: *** TIFF loader will not be built (TIFF library not found) ***
[08:53] <giggsey> meh
[08:54] <chrismy> bob2, seriously i do not know what 'term' you call that therefore i can't be accurate.
[08:54] <manish> ekimus: Thanks.  I will try that.  Thanks for your help.
[08:54] <zcat[1] > quam: I have ubuntu on a beige p3 .. how do I emulate the other two mouse buttons.. something in xorg.conf ?
[08:54] <bob2> chrismy: so, explain exactly what you're hopinh to acheieve
[08:55] <zoexi> does vlc come precompiled?
[08:55] <zoexi> or must Ibuild it?
[08:55] <zcat[1] > anyone?
[08:55] <bimberi> ian: iirc gtfp gets put into Applications -> Internet
[08:55] <ekimus> zoexi: ubuntu is a binary distro
[08:56] <kevor> zoexi: it's not gentoo :P
[08:56] <oceandead> heh
[08:56] <zoexi> I tried to find it with aptitude
[08:56] <desrt> in a debian/control file how do i specify a dependency on version 0.8.3-* of a package?
[08:56] <zoexi> didn't work
[08:56] <kevor> just do apt-get update; apt-cache search vlc
[08:56] <desrt> like 0.8.3-0ubuntu27 is ok, but 0.8.4 is not
[08:56] <bob2> desrt: you can't
[08:57] <desrt> !
[08:57] <ubotu> desrt: Are you smoking crack?
[08:57] <desrt> blimey!
[08:57] <ekimus> desrt: logicall >0.8.4 ?
[08:57] <ekimus> logically
[08:57] <desrt> no.  logically < 0.8.4
[08:57] <bob2> desrt: what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <chrismy> bob2, well i have several of this php/mysql tutorials. the php part is 'working' coz i see a list of 'something'(system info i pressume). well that is easy to check if php is 'working' by the test.php file as shown.  as for the mysql part is very tough
[08:57] <ian> bimberi: no... there is no short cut in gftp..after installing
[08:57] <ekimus> err damn :)
[08:57] <desrt> bob2; depend on a specific upstream version
[08:57] <ekimus> i just _hate_ those typos
[08:58] <desrt> bob2; ie: either the upstream package will be held back or my package uninstalled
[08:58] <bob2> chrismy: write a simple php script that access a mysql db
[08:58] <chrismy> bob2, ermmmm how?
[08:59] <bob2> why are you setting up php if you don't know how to use it?
[08:59] <chrismy> bob2, the tutorials say i need to setup the database this and that...and that makes me very confused
[08:59] <bob2> chrismy: anyway, install php4-mysql, then go to #php, I suppose
[08:59] <Tomaj> cafuego how does it work?
[08:59] <chrismy> bob2, i did install that
[09:00] <desrt> i assume you want to install php4-cgi too
[09:00] <chrismy> bob2, oh you mean the channel  ok
[09:00] <bob2> php4-cli now
[09:00] <yongzhi> anyone knows why does my vlc does not plays any sound but for other players it is working fine..
[09:00] <desrt> or even libapache2-mod-php4
[09:01] <desrt> ^ my personal fav
[09:01] <bob2> desrt: look at how other packages have done it
[09:01] <bob2> tho I can't find any examples now
[09:01] <bob2> if it's not in the debian new maintainer's guide, ask on the dev list
[09:01] <desrt> bob2; likewise -- which is why i ask :D
[09:01] <desrt> it's not.
[09:01] <desrt> i'll probably be able to find something
[09:02] <bob2> Depend foo > 0.8-1, Conflicts >0.8-999
[09:02] <bob2> or something
[09:02] <bob2> tho that's crap
[09:02] <monoxide> root@azriel:/home/matthew # mdadm --assemble --scan
[09:02] <monoxide> mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[09:02] <monoxide> the point is, i am trying to make /dev/md0.... can anyone help?
[09:02] <desrt> yes.  quite evil, that is.
[09:02] <bob2> no, you're not trying to make it
[09:02] <bob2> you're trying to load the right module, so udev makes it for you
[09:03] <monoxide> heh, and which module is that?
[09:03] <gilv> how to install kubuntu when i have ubuntut ?
 i'm trying to make it work
 LIES!
[09:03] <desrt> gilv; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <bob2> gilv: #kubuntu, install kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <giggsey> How would I get libjpeg
[09:04] <giggsey> the site listed for it on freshmeat is down
[09:04] <giggsey> (has no content)
[09:04] <bob2> giggsey: what are you compiling?
[09:04] <giggsey> gtk2+
[09:04] <bob2> and why are you doing it in the most painful way possible?
[09:04] <giggsey> gtk+2*
[09:04] <bob2> giggsey: dude, wtf
[09:05] <bob2> gtk2 is in Ubuntu
[09:05] <giggsey> o_O?
[09:05] <bob2> and you already have it installed
[09:05] <giggsey> when I try to install the cleerlooks that uses the engine, it says that it can't find it
[09:05] <bob2> no
[09:05] <bob2> it says it can't find the headers
[09:05] <bob2> so, aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:05] <bob2> which I did tell you an hour ago
[09:06] <monoxide> bob2, which module do i want then? udev?
[09:06] <giggsey> you said apt-get install libgtk...
[09:06] <giggsey> which I did
[09:06] <bob2> monoxide: no
[09:06] <bob2> perhaps the md module
[09:06] <monoxide> i have
[09:07] <bob2> 16:46:28        giggsey |  Is there an easy way to install GTK+ 2
[09:07] <bob2> 16:46:49 @         bob2 | giggsey: install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:07] <bob2> 16:47:11        giggsey |  bob2: so do it all from source?
[09:07] <bob2> 16:48:06        giggsey |  nvm bob2, I can get libgtk2.0-dev via apt-get
[09:07] <bob2> 16:48:12 @         bob2 | giggsey: yes
[09:07] <zoexi> kevor,
[09:07] <monoxide> and the array is in the config file
[09:07] <giggsey> yeah
[09:07] <giggsey> bob2 so, aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:07] <zoexi> it doesn't work
[09:07] <bob2> giggsey: so, stop messing with the gtk source and explain what wasn't working after you installed that
[09:07] <zcat[1] > How do I right-click my one button mouse?!!
[09:07] <giggsey> nvm
[09:07] <giggsey> its working now
[09:07] <bob2> giggsey: oh, so you didn't install the package when I first suggested it?
[09:07] <giggsey> Yeah I did
[09:07] <bob2> zcat[1] : you need to use lots of punctuation
[09:07] <bob2> or else no one can answer you
[09:08] <kevor> "it doesnt work" zeoxi that is helping nothing
[09:08] <kevor> what is the output of apt-cache search vlc?
[09:08] <bob2> giggsey: also, dude, clearlooks is in ubuntu
[09:08] <giggsey> true
[09:08] <zcat[1] > anyone?
[09:08] <bob2> zcat[1] : presumably you tried f11 and f12?
[09:08] <giggsey> but the engine isn't
[09:08] <zcat[1] > no, I'll try..
[09:08] <oceandead> ah...
[09:08] <oceandead> oh nevermind
[09:08] <bob2> gtk2-engines-clearlooks - ClearLooks theme
[09:09] <bob2> giggsey: yes it is
[09:09] <giggsey> where
[09:09] <giggsey> lol
[09:09] <zcat[1] > AWESOM!!
[09:09] <kevor> zeoxi: apt-get install wxvlc
[09:09] <giggsey> in theme prefs
[09:09] <zcat[1] > that's all I needed. thanks!
[09:09] <kevor> or gnome-vlc
[09:09] <zcat[1] > (where is F11/F12 documented?)
[09:09] <bob2> it has nothing to do with "theme prefs"
[09:09] <kevor> or qvlc
[09:09] <monoxide> bob2, i have the md module active, and still nothing
[09:09] <bob2> monoxide: ok!
[09:10] <bob2> monoxide: which software raid howto are you reading?
[09:10] <monoxide> i couldnt find one on ubuntu.com
[09:10] <zoexi> ok, I have apt get troubles
[09:10] <bob2> so
[09:10] <monoxide> i set this all up in the installer and it didnt do it properly...
[09:10] <bob2> instead of using google
[09:10] <bob2> and finsding the howto
[09:10] <bob2> you spent an hour here?
[09:10] <c0rrupt__> finsdin
[09:11] <c0rrupt__> 
[09:11] <kevor> zoexi: WHAT troubles
[09:11] <bob2> monoxide: read thw howto and make sure each step has already been correctly done
[09:12] <dubnium> anyone know how to solve an issue with xmms freezing when I open up a file?
[09:12] <bob2> dubnium: did you configure xmms to use esd?
[09:12] <c0rrupt__> alsa
[09:12] <kevor> zoexi: can't help you if you do not say what the output is when you run 'apt-get install gnome-vlc'
[09:12] <Doonz> anyone know why stream ripper would just close when im record a staion?
[09:12] <dubnium> bob2, I dont think so
[09:13] <bob2> dubnium: you'll need to do that then
[09:13] <bob2> Doonz: I've found mplayer to be a lot simpler
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> dubnium, my uses oss and it works fine,
[09:13] <dubnium> how does one go about esd config?
[09:13] <Doonz> mplayer records and splits the songs up like stream ripper does?
[09:13] <kevor> zoexi: don't pm me, but that's better, seems u need to go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <dubnium> oss?
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> yea
[09:13] <bob2> Doonz: nope
[09:13] <topyli> Doonz: no, it's just a player
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> open xmms
[09:13] <dubnium> I dunno what it is
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> hit ctrl+p
[09:13] <bob2> dubnium: right click, preferences, output
[09:13] <Setite> kaffeine!!!!
[09:14] <c0rrupt__> then look at output plugin
[09:14] <Doonz> yeah i was specifically referring to the recording part
[09:14] <kevor> (nano /etc/apt/sources.list) and remove the # 's in front of deb www.*
[09:14] <c0rrupt__> tell me what is says
[09:14] <dubnium> oss is selected
[09:14] <zoexi> pm?
[09:14] <kevor> zoexi: then do apt-get update and then apt-get install gnome-vlc
[09:14] <c0rrupt__> try alsa
[09:14] <thoreauputic> Doonz: something like mplayer --streamdump  IIRC
[09:14] <zoexi> it says package not found
[09:14] <kevor> yes i know that
[09:14] <kevor> read back what i said
[09:15] <Doonz> yeah that will just record the whole stream into 1 big ass file tho right?
[09:15] <dubnium> hmmm alsa givs the sound card trouble
[09:15] <oceandead> use an editor to split it up maybe?
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> hmm
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> you can only run 1 sound ap at a time
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> is there something else running using sound?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Doonz: I think so - I prefer to use streamripper
[09:15] <dubnium> not at all
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> Hm
[09:15] <bob2> dubnium: as I said, esd is what you want
[09:16] <zcat[1] > mplayer -ao pcm -file=something.wav
[09:16] <Doonz> yeah but the terminal part when recording just closes for no reason
[09:16] <dubnium> how do I go about esd?
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> select it
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> in output plugins
[09:16] <dubnium> wonderful.. thanx fellas
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> works?
[09:16] <dubnium> sure does
[09:16] <zoexi> still says "Reading package lists... Done
[09:16] <zoexi> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:16] <zoexi> E: Couldn't find package gnome-vlc
[09:16] <zoexi> "
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> thanks bob2..
[09:16] <dubnium> this new laptop is getting better
[09:16] <itay> I got an error while configuring: "Fatal - can't find OpenGL Libraries - Stopping here."
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> thank*
[09:17] <itay> what should I install?
[09:17] <zcat[1] > brb; gonna see if i can use irc in yasr :-)
[09:17] <jimd> I have a question about the LiveCD; is there an LTSP or terminal server module for it?
[09:17] <kevor> zoexi: did you 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list' ? and remvoed the # in front of the repositories?
[09:18] <kevor> hoary universe needs to be un#-ed
[09:18] <zoexi> I try that now ...
[09:18] <dubnium> I do have another question though.... is there support for built in card readers?
[09:18] <dubnium> havent  found much on the forums..
[09:19] <zoexi> shoud I enable all of them?
[09:20] <bob2> dubnium: readers of what?
[09:20] <dubnium> card readers... its a 6-in-1
[09:20] <kevor> zeoxi: you can, but don't install everything you see
[09:20] <dubnium> digital media
[09:20] <bob2> dubnium: depends on the laptop model then
[09:20] <zcat[1] > hmm, almost useable in epic4 -d'
[09:20] <dubnium> this is true
[09:21] <dubnium> i read there may not be support in the kernel...
[09:21] <kevor> zoexi: make sure you save, you can only save as root
[09:21] <zoexi> yeah, i got that wrong the first time
[09:22] <kevor> :P
[09:22] <zoexi> i think it might work now
[09:22] <kevor> ok, now go for it :P 'apt-get update'
[09:22] <zoexi> does aptitude use the same list?
[09:22] <zoexi> cause i like it better
[09:22] <kevor> yes, synaptic too, they are both frontends for the apt-get
[09:22] <zcat[1] > should so
[09:23] <kevor> for now zoexi, just run 'apt-get update ; apt-get install gnome-vlc'
[09:23] <kevor> i like wxvlc better, but that's personal
[09:23] <zcat[1] > synaptic is too nice; I end up installing bunckes of crap just 'cos it's soo easy to tick everything that looks like it might be fun to play with..
[09:23] <zoexi> yeah, it's working, awesome
[09:23] <zoexi> thanks
[09:23] <kevor> whohoho i helped \o/
[09:23] <kevor> ;) np
[09:24] <Orborde> How do I change the system name?
[09:24] <Doonz> hey does ubuntu have like a host file??
[09:24] <nightswim> /etc/hostname
[09:24] <cafuego> Doonz: No.
[09:24] <kevor> hostname [name] 
[09:24] <nightswim> /etc/hosts
[09:25] <cafuego> Doonz: it DOES hoever have an ACTUAL host file.
[09:25] <kevor> Orborde: hostname [name] 
[09:26] <Doonz> doe i have to reload that file?
[09:26] <cafuego> Doonz: nope
[09:26] <Doonz> kool
[09:26] <cafuego> Doonz: changes take effect immediately. Note that dnsutils tools like 'host' do NOT use it.
[09:27] <Doonz> k well it fixed my problem thanx guys
[09:27] <pello> hi
[09:27] <pello> just installed ubuntu
[09:27] <eliUbuntu> anyone know of a program that allows you to watch a movie and load a subtitle file to go along with it?
[09:27] <pello> how can i login as root
[09:27] <eliUbuntu> something like bsplayer in windows?
[09:27] <Chousuke> pello: use sudo -s
[09:28] <dubnium> pello, great isnt it?
[09:28] <sn0n> hey all
[09:28] <pello> very nice
[09:28] <LMX> eliUbuntu, mplayer or xine
[09:28] <Chousuke> !sudo
[09:28] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:28] <eliUbuntu> how do you load a subtitle into xine? i see that you can see subtitles if you're playing a dvd film. im loading a divx film
[09:29] <eliUbuntu> would that make difference?
[09:29] <i4> can someone explain to me how how to fix this error? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:29] <i4>   gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[09:29] <dubnium> yesterday i installed kubuntu-amd64, what a mess so know im running hoary-i386
[09:30] <dubnium> like gnome mucher better
[09:30] <i4> me too.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> i4: you're using 3rd party repositories, aren't you ?
[09:30] <i4> thoreauputic: some
[09:30] <thoreauputic> i4: therein lies your problem
[09:31] <giggsey> I've added a launcher to the desktop, however, it needs sudo to run, so I've added that, but when I run it, a terminal pops up asking for the sudo password, how would I get around that?
[09:31] <gilv> where can i find a page to install all necessary packages to be able to play avi videos, realplayer radio, dvds.... ?
[09:31] <Orborde> kevor, Thanks.
[09:31] <dubnium> hmmm what to config next, anyone get bluetooth working with a pda?
[09:31] <LMX> eliUbuntu, i dont have xine installed installed atm, and i dont remeber, but i think theres something like open->subtitle in the menu
[09:32] <eliUbuntu> LMX thanks for your help. i will look into it
[09:32] <LMX> no problem :)
[09:35] <Madpilot> !tell gilv about restricted
[09:35] <Madpilot> gilv: follow the URL ubotu just sent you
[09:35] <setite> yay! autohinting makes my eyes happy
[09:36] <zoexi> hey again,
[09:36] <zoexi> dvd video is choppy,
[09:37] <zoexi> any suggestions?
[09:37] <Madpilot> zoexi: got DMA enabled?
[09:37] <Madpilot> !dma
[09:37] <Madpilot> !+dma
[09:37] <ubotu> dma is probably Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[09:37] <zoexi> how do I know?
[09:37] <Madpilot> zoexi: check that URL, it'll show you
[09:38] <Madpilot> show you how to check, that is...
[09:39] <i4> does ubuntu play .m4a files?
[09:40] <giggsey> does anyone know an answer to my problem?
[09:40] <puskom_cari> is a dos emulator include in ubuntu cd's
[09:42] <omp342> how can i install a mouse theme
[09:43] <jimd> I have a question about the LiveCD; is there an LTSP or terminal server module for it?
[09:43] <Madpilot> puskom_cari: dosbox is in ubuntu's repos, I don't think it's installed by default though
[09:44] <Madpilot> omp342: I think "gcursor" is what you want - it's in the repos, have a look in Synaptic...
[09:45] <giggsey> !xmms
[09:45] <ubotu> giggsey: Wish i knew
[09:45] <giggsey> -_-
[09:46] <giggsey> umm, i've got to manually set my root password
[09:46] <giggsey> whats the file that stores them
[09:46] <giggsey> /etc/shadow?
[09:46] <Madpilot> giggsey: you do know that there's no root by default in Ubuntu?
[09:46] <giggsey> no root account...
[09:46] <eliUbuntu> LMX it worked. you just have to have the subtitle file the same name as the movie file
[09:46] <Madpilot> Ubuntu encourages sudo instead
[09:46] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:46] <ubotu> I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:46] <giggsey> but I need to get into some admin sections to edit
[09:47] <Madpilot> giggsey: see ubotu ^^^
[09:47] <omp342> Madpilot: thanks :D
[09:47] <LMX> eliUbuntu, okey :>
[09:47] <eliUbuntu> thanks
[09:47] <Madpilot> omp342: no problem
[09:47] <jimd> !LTSP
[09:47] <ubotu> jimd: I haven't a clue
[09:47] <jimd> !terminal server
[09:47] <ubotu> jimd: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:48] <giggsey> thanks Madpilot
[09:48] <zoexi> hey,
[09:48] <omp342> do you guys think it would be a bad idea to switch to gentoo
[09:49] <zoexi> looks much better
[09:49] <zoexi> thanks
[09:49] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes ;-)
[09:49] <omp342> ive heard a lot of good things about gentoo, but i heard its unsecure unless you make it secure yourself
[09:49] <Madpilot> omp342: this is #ubuntu, we're not exactly impartial... ;)
[09:49] <omp342> =] 
[09:49] <kevor> zoexi: what looks much better
[09:50] <hondje> gentoo hardened is the shit, but gentoo makes a lousy desktop distro in my book
[09:50] <kevor> get one..
[09:50] <Madpilot> !themes
[09:50] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[09:50] <Chousuke> omp342: Do you want to compile all your programs?
[09:50] <Madpilot> giggsey: ubotu to the rescue ^^^
[09:50] <omp342> i don't even know how to :D
[09:50] <omp342> lol
[09:50] <Chousuke> omp342: Then gentoo is not for you.
[09:50] <omp342> so i assume i should stay with ubuntu
[09:50] <omp342> :)
[09:50] <omp342> yah
[09:51] <Chousuke> gentoo spends a lot of time compiling.
[09:51] <omp342> the only problem is
[09:51] <omp342> i've been having trouble
[09:51] <omp342> getting wine to work
[09:51] <kevor> well, emerge $packet is n't much different from apt-get install $packet
[09:51] <osfa> yar, me too
[09:51] <Chousuke> kevor: except it takes a lot longer.
[09:51] <hondje> on the surface
[09:51] <kevor> true :)
[09:51] <osfa> wine 20050725 appears to be completely borken on ubuntu
[09:51] <hondje> they both have their good points
[09:51] <osfa> at least, in that winetools can't do the config
[09:51] <kevor> Chousuke: portage has a bigger DB pf programs
[09:51] <kevor> of*
[09:51] <Chousuke> not really.
[09:52] <Chousuke> not officially at least.
[09:52] <kevor> COM isn't in the repository :P
[09:52] <kevor> MOC
[09:52] <kevor> :P
[09:52] <Chousuke> and there's craploads of unofficial .debs too
[09:52] <kevor> of ubuntu, it is in emerge :P
[09:52] <hondje> yeah
[09:52] <hondje> lot of commercial packages come in rpm and deb
[09:52] <Madpilot> there's 16,000+ things in Ubuntu's repos. how much crap does any one computer really need? ;)
[09:52] <Chousuke> even if you can download a 2Mb source package in 2 seconds with your T1, you'll still have to wait a couple minutes for it to compile.
[09:52] <giggsey> !icons
[09:52] <ubotu> giggsey: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:52] <giggsey> pfft
[09:53] <kevor> yes, but what about deps, Ubuntu has all stable (means old) versions :)
[09:53] <Madpilot> giggsey: most of those theme sites have icon themes as well
[09:53] <kevor> so most .debs are not installable becuzza deps problems
[09:53] <hondje> um
[09:53] <hondje> that has nothing to do with 'old' versions
[09:53] <kevor> but that's what makes ubuntu this great, it just works. but not great if you wanna test bleeding edge software
[09:53] <lennart_> how does linux handel floppys? I want to copy files to a floppy. Gnome mount's it and I can see the content in nautilus. But when I copy a file to the floppy it dont end up "ON" the floppy. It end up in the mount point directory on the harddrive. What can I do to change this?
[09:53] <hondje> that has to do with hoary diverging from debian more than expected
[09:53] <srbaker> does anyone here have a *working* sources.list line for hoary-extras?
[09:54] <kevor> mount /dev/floppy :P
[09:54] <giggsey> I know Madpilot, I just want to instal one, lol
[09:54] <thoreauputic> srbaker: sure
[09:54] <hondje> lennart_: that's on the floppy
[09:54] <eliUbuntu> anyone here using e17?
[09:54] <srbaker> thoreauputic, please and thank you :)
[09:54] <hondje> umount it and you'll see it's still on it if you try again
[09:54] <lennart_> hondje, ....files
[09:54] <Madpilot> srbaker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto  <-- bottom of this page
[09:55] <c0rrupt__> !hax
[09:55] <ubotu> c0rrupt__: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:55] <Madpilot> works for me, anyway
[09:55] <thoreauputic> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse
[09:55] <thoreauputic>  restricted
[09:55] <hondje> cp foo /media/floppy copies foo to the floppy (assuming that's your mount pnt)
[09:55] <kevor> lennart_: mount /dev/fd0
[09:55] <thoreauputic> srbaker: hmm - restricted on the same line of course
[09:55] <srbaker> thank you
[09:56] <c0rrupt__> mmm
[09:56] <kevor> lennart_: or else it will not be mounted, and the /media/floppy is just an empty shell
[09:56] <c0rrupt__> my ding ding dong
[09:56] <hondje> kevor: he said it automounts fine
[09:56] <kevor> floppies don't automount :)
[09:56] <hondje> no, hotplug does the voodoo, but it's the same thing to the user
[09:56] <i4> does anybody know about or have any links to dramatic gnome-dektop changes?
[09:56] <hondje> well, gnome adds voodoo too
[09:57] <kevor> gnome-volume-manager does not check for floppies :)
[09:57] <hondje> then how did I get it to do it for me?
[09:57] <kevor> hotplug prolly :)
[09:57] <co-fanky> hy
[09:58] <puskom_cari> i've extract xpde in my cd and i wann to install it to my computers how can i do that
[09:58] <owtput> good evening gents
[09:58] <omp342> if i changed my cursor, would i need to log out and in for it to take effect?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes, I expect you need to restart x, so logging out/in would do it
[09:58] <Madpilot> hmmm... my floppy drive just "automounts" - and I know I haven't written anything odd to make it happen...
[09:59] <srbaker> does gstreamer use /usr/lib/win32/ codecs?
[09:59] <omp342> okay
[09:59] <omp342> that means ill brb
[09:59] <kevor> Madpilot: you mean it just starts reading when you plug it in?
[09:59] <thoreauputic> srbaker: no
[09:59] <srbaker> damn
[09:59] <djoek> hi everyone
[09:59] <owtput> run irssi in a screen session
[09:59] <thoreauputic> srbaker: you need totem-xine or similar
[09:59] <hondje> That makes two of us
[09:59] <thoreauputic> srbaker: or mplayer
[09:59] <zoexi> hi again
[09:59] <srbaker> thoreauputic, yeah, getting now.
[09:59] <kevor> hi zoexi
[10:00] <zoexi> i get no audio from vlc,
[10:00] <giggsey> How would I add like applet things to my desktop, like clock/calender etc.
[10:00] <djoek> who's up for some should-work-but-doesn't oddness ?
[10:00] <kevor> zoexi: select the right output plugin in the Preferences
[10:00] <Madpilot> kevor: pretty sure. I've used about two floppies in the four months I've used Ubuntu, but they've both "just worked"...
[10:00] <puskom_cari> how to install xpde from cd
[10:00] <srbaker> i'm not getting any sound in totem
[10:00] <lennart_> how do I mount a floppy so the all users (not just root) can remove/write files
[10:00] <srbaker> anyone else having this problem?
[10:00] <srbaker> trying to play an avi
[10:01] <kevor> ok... well i added some code to my g-v-m, never found a floppy part :P but then again, i do'nt have floppies :D
[10:01] <lennart_> that
[10:01] <kevor> or a drive for that matter
[10:01] <Madpilot> srbaker: assume you've got codecs installed?
[10:01] <Madpilot> !avi
[10:01] <ubotu> Madpilot: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:01] <Madpilot> !mp3
[10:01] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:01] <srbaker> Madpilot, yeah.  the video plays fine.  just no sound in totem
[10:01] <giggsey> How would I add like applet things to my desktop, like clock/calender etc.???????
[10:01] <hondje> giggsey: look into gdesklets
[10:01] <lennart_> ls
[10:01] <zoexi> linux oss?
[10:02] <giggsey> thanks hondje
[10:02] <srbaker> sound works fine otherwise.  just not in xine
[10:02] <srbaker> sigh
[10:02] <kevor> zoexi: try a little, see what works :P
[10:03] <omp342> when i press backspace when theres no more stuff to delete in terminal my computer makes a beep noise
[10:03] <omp342> can i turn that off
[10:03] <kevor> The biggest downside on Linux is the audio.. cards not supported, volume on 0 by default, ALSA OSS ESD; it's all so unclear and confusing
[10:03] <kevor> yes omp342 pull out the speakercable from ur mobo
[10:04] <kevor> or put "Speaker" on 0 in alsamixer
[10:04] <hondje> last -adn15
[10:04] <thoreauputic> kevor: a bit drastic when gnome-terminal has an option to silence beeps ;)
[10:04] <Chousuke> kevor: there's a good reason for volume to be on 0 by default
[10:04] <hondje> bah
[10:04] <Chousuke> kevor: it prevents accidental aural damage.
[10:04] <srbaker> anyone have any suggestions about why sound doesn't work in totem for avis/
[10:05] <srbaker> ?
[10:05] <srbaker> works everywhere else
[10:05] <n1xt3r> omp342: set bell-style visible in your .inputrc
[10:05] <Chousuke> unsupported sound codec.
[10:05] <srbaker> Chousuke, that's not it
[10:05] <Chousuke> srbaker: Are you sure?
[10:06] <Rebs> how do you extract from an exe?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> srbaker: do you get sound with other formats?
[10:06] <srbaker> Chousuke, positive
[10:06] <djoek> i have a creative webcam go plus, it registers as a usb device, i can load the ov511 driver and the cpia_usb too, everything works, yet nothing shows up in /proc/cpia. ideas?
[10:06] <srbaker> thoreauputic, i don't ahve any other formats to test
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Rebs: exe??
[10:06] <Chousuke> srbaker: .avi is not even a format.
[10:06] <Rebs> yea tryna get some inf fiels out of an exe for my bcmwl5 for ndiswrapper
[10:06] <thoreauputic> right, avi is a container
[10:06] <Rebs> files* too
[10:06] <omp342> nlxt3r: can you tell me what to do in more detail. i just installed ubuntu today
[10:06] <Chousuke> srbaker: does the sound work with other players?
[10:06] <srbaker> Chousuke, i don't need to get into a semantic argument.
[10:06] <Chousuke> with the same files.
[10:06] <srbaker> Chousuke, no.  sound does not work in totem at all
[10:07] <srbaker> yes.  there is sound in these files
[10:07] <Chousuke> hmm.
[10:07] <srbaker> i was watching them on my debian installation on the same box today
[10:07] <Chousuke> it might be using some sound driver that isn't working. like ESD, and you have ESD disabled or something.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> srbaker: do you have any ogg files or mp3s ? You can play those with totem to test sound...
[10:07] <srbaker> right.  i have no idea how to config xine
[10:07] <Rebs> anybody know how to extractr files from an *.exe?
[10:08] <srbaker> thoreauputic, sound works!
[10:08] <srbaker> thoreauputic, i'm getting sounds
[10:08] <srbaker> just not in totem
[10:08] <Chousuke> srbaker: it's probably an unsupported codec.
[10:08] <Chousuke> :P
[10:08] <srbaker> Chousuke, it's *NOT*
[10:08] <Chousuke> totem supports different things than other players.
[10:08] <kevor> srbaker: isn't totem-xine the solution to that?
[10:08] <srbaker> aha, i fixed it
[10:08] <Madpilot> not all .avi files are created equal, I think...
[10:08] <thoreauputic> srbaker: could be an esd problem, of course (/me hates esd)
[10:09] <hondje> esd goes bye bye in 2.12
[10:09] <srbaker> no, for some reason, totem-xine wants gstreamer0.8-mad.  what the hell?
[10:09] <n1xt3r> omp342: inside terminal: cd; echo "set bell-style visible" >.inputrc
[10:09] <omp342> okay
[10:09] <omp342> thanks
[10:09] <thoreauputic> srbaker: erm.... totem-xine uses the xine engine - that's weird...
[10:10] <Chousuke> hondje: Yay
[10:10] <omp342> do i just do that, or should i do sudo -i first?
[10:10] <kevor> omp342: no, for the user you want it to be for
[10:10] <srbaker> yeah, no shit
[10:11] <omp342> ok
[10:11] <kevor> omp342: if you want root-terminals to do it also, login as root; cd ; echo "set blabla"
[10:11] <omp342> hmm do i have to log out and in for it to take effect?
[10:11] <Chousuke> uh.
[10:11] <Chousuke> I wonder if it is sane to use > for the redirecion
[10:11] <Chousuke> +t
[10:11] <Chousuke> it overwrites any existing content.
[10:12] <Chousuke> use >> to append.
[10:12] <omp342> brb
[10:12] <LMX> is there any way to change default port in gnome-bittorrent?
[10:13] <kevor> hmm Chousuke using > isn't smart idd :)
[10:13] <kevor> echo "repossieline" > /etc/apt/src.list
[10:13] <kevor> :P
[10:14] <kevor> *fuckt*
[10:14] <thoreauputic> kevor: no such file or directory - fortunately
[10:14] <Chousuke> ould fail without sudo anyway
[10:14] <Chousuke> would*
[10:14] <kevor> yeh, did that on purpose so nobody could mimic me, trying to see what it'd do
[10:14] <azriel0184> can someone explain this to me: /dev/md0              276G  2.7G  259G   2% /home
[10:14] <azriel0184>  259+2.7 = 262GB. what happened to the other 4GB?
[10:15] <omp342> it worked :D
[10:15] <thoreauputic> also would need to be piped through sudo tee in fact
[10:15] <omp342> it doesn't make the noise anymore
[10:15] <omp342> you guys are so helpful :)
[10:15] <kevor> 5% is used for administrative thingies on ext3
[10:16] <azriel0184> aah,m of course... i should have known that... but its not enough to show up on my other harddrives :)
[10:18] <omp342> is there a way to get the fonts in websites to look like it does in windows?
[10:19] <omp342> i already have msttcorefonts installed
[10:20] <thoreauputic> omp342: maybe websites coded for IE ? dunno
[10:20] <Madpilot> omp342: you can probably change which fonts FF uses to display; I know I can change that in Opera
[10:21] <LinuxDolt> i'm having trouble getting printer sharing with windows working
[10:21] <omp342> well i use both firefox in windows and ubuntu
[10:21] <omp342> hmm
[10:22] <omp342> does anyone know the defualt font for firefox
[10:22] <omp342> in windows
[10:22] <zoexi> ok,
[10:22] <Madpilot> omp342: probably Times New Roman for normal serifed text, but that's just a guess. You should be able to check in FF's configs somewhere
[10:22] <zoexi> xmms is now broken
[10:23] <gsuveg> re
[10:23] <zoexi> it won't even open
[10:23] <omp342> times new roman is definately not the web browsing font in windows
[10:23] <omp342> that would look horrible
[10:23] <thoreauputic> omp342: have a look in edit- prefs - general - fonts & colours
[10:23] <LinuxDolt> xmms has always been broken, switch to beep already ;)
[10:23] <thoreauputic> in FF
[10:23] <kevor> zoexi: it might be crashed somewhere in the background, just run killal -9 xmms
[10:23] <omp342> yah im looking, but i dont know what to set it to
[10:23] <kevor> killall -9 xmms
[10:23] <omp342> =/
[10:23] <omp342> btw should i turn Subpixel Smoothing on
[10:23] <omp342> if im using a LCD monitor
[10:24] <Madpilot> I need to sleep this beer off - good night, all
[10:24] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes, for LCD it should be on I think
[10:24] <omp342> ok its on now :)
[10:24] <zoexi> whoa, magic
[10:24] <gsuveg> anybody know a icewm sdeb ?
[10:24] <zoexi> what does the -9 flag mean?
[10:24] <LinuxDolt> it's not a flag
[10:25] <LinuxDolt> read the manpage
[10:25] <LinuxDolt> it tells killall what kind of kill to send the program
[10:25] <thoreauputic> zoexi: kill uses various signals like -9 and -15
[10:26] <kevor> use -3 if you want to exit the program normally
[10:26] <kevor> without destroying non-saved info
[10:26] <zoexi> I see
[10:26] <cse_> Hey all.. I'm having trouble with my apache and samba.. I have set ports 22,135-139, and 80 to my linux box and I can see it from other computers using the router but I can't see it remotely from the internet. Any ideas?
[10:26] <kevor> kill -l gives a list of numbers :)
[10:27] <cse_> ssh works, but http and the samba ports show up as stealth
[10:28] <zoexi> ok, xmms crashes when i try to play mp3,
[10:28] <LinuxDolt> so, has anyone figured out how to share a printer out in samba from ubuntu?  i keep looking through the forums, wiki, and various online sources, but they all amount to saying it's easier than it's being for me
[10:28] <omp342> how can i add a shortcut to my home folder onto my desktop? :)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> cse_: do you have a webserver running? The port won't be availble unless a service is running...
[10:28] <zoexi> cd audio works fine,
[10:28] <osfa> omp342, Places->Home Folder ?
[10:28] <cse_> thoreauputic, yes, the internal computers 192.168* can see it
[10:28] <cse_> thoreauputic, I'm thinking its my router.. damned thing
[10:29] <omp342> i mean i want to add a shortcut to the actual desktop background thing
[10:29] <omp342> not have to use the menu all the time
[10:29] <thoreauputic> cse_: ah - have you forwarded the ports?
[10:29] <cse_> I tried running that hacked firmware on my WRT54G and i borked it! heh back to the linksys firewall
[10:29] <cse_> Yeah, I have.. I'm going to try to disable its 'firewall', one sec
[10:30] <thoreauputic> omp342: make a launcher with the command nautilus /home/omp342
[10:30] <thoreauputic> or whatever your user name is...
[10:30] <cse_> thoreauputic, nope, still doesn't work.. any ideas? Ports are forwarded, I know this for sure.
[10:31] <kevor> LinuxDolt: has Bmp the same shortcuts as xmms?
[10:31] <LinuxDolt> kevor: shortcuts?
[10:31] <kevor> like "J" to search for a song
[10:31] <kevor> Q to queue
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cse_: hmm - are you using a firewall/iptables on the box running the servers?
[10:31] <cse_> thoreauputic, nope
[10:32] <omp342> ok thanks thoreauputic
[10:32] <LinuxDolt> it doesn't have a built-in search, you have to get a plugin.  last i knew xmms needed a plugin too
[10:32] <thoreauputic> cse_: running out of ideas here ... ;)
[10:32] <kevor> nope :)
[10:32] <ompaul> I hate this: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <<== because, it is really should say check to see if you have another process using it, it already identified that the lock file was unavailable, gha :)
[10:33] <cse_> thoreauputic, hrmm.. do ISPs actively filter port 80?
[10:33] <osfa> omp342, I think you can also set a shortcut key to open your home folder
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cse_: oh, yes - often
[10:33] <kevor> what's the packet called in the ubuntu repossies?
[10:33] <ompaul> cse_, some do some don't :-)
[10:33] <LinuxDolt> kevor: is xmms gtk2 yet?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cse_: and 139 etc (samba)
[10:33] <kevor> nope, gtk still
[10:33] <Nermal> LinuxDolt, no.. use beep-media-player
[10:33] <Nermal> gtk2 port of xmms
[10:34] <cse_> grr, exactly the ports I wanted to use
[10:34] <LinuxDolt> it's not a port, it's a fork, and i already use it
[10:34] <Nermal> pendantic asshole
[10:34] <LinuxDolt> it's got a few other differences from xmms now
[10:34] <Nermal> urgh
[10:35] <Sly> hey all, been a while since i been sat at my ubuntu desktop, damn how ive missed it =D
[10:37] <kevor> ah man, beep -l 9999999 -f 10000 will get you REALLY crazy :)
[10:37] <Sly> lmao
[10:38] <kevor> or make it run @ 15000 just on the edge of what you can hear
[10:38] <Determinist> ls
[10:38] <Determinist> erm
[10:38] <kevor> automatically when you install someones pc :P
[10:38] <Determinist> oops
[10:38] <Sly> sorry linux dolt i personally cant help you :)
[10:38] <dubnium> hell ya.. got a bluetooth sync working with my clie
[10:38] <Determinist> cursed irssi , looks like a damned terminal lol
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Determinist: because it runs in one, yes ;)
[10:39] <Determinist> thoreauputic: :P
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Determinist: get a colourful theme ;)
[10:42] <Sly> damn realy has been a while. whats the other name that ocmpanies nvida-glx ............. nvidia-glx-config
[10:42] <Sly> or somthin along them lines
[10:43] <owtput> hi guys, is there an allocated-"dump" channel for ubuntu ircers?
[10:43] <LinuxDolt> nvidia-common or something like that i think
[10:43] <owtput> and are any of you on the chan atm?
[10:43] <LinuxDolt> read the topic, it's a web page
[10:44] <ompaul> !tell owtput about pastebin
[10:44] <owtput> pedantic
[10:44] <owtput> ta, ompaul
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> wha
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> 32 gig
[10:45] <kevor> LinuxDolt: thank you for giving me BMP.. now i gotta reprogram g-v-m, hardcoded the commands runned when inserting cd's in there :(
[10:45] <owtput> Doonz: stop or you'll go blind
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> might as well do dd
[10:45] <Doonz> i kno
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> lol
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> what is it btw ... all the songs of elvis ?
[10:46] <LinuxDolt> kevor: haha.  i didn't TELL you to use it, just said it's what i use
[10:46] <owtput> sorry, i have one line to paste:
[10:46] <owtput> trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/gamma_dri.so', which is also in package xlibmesa-dri
[10:46] <Sly> Sighs restart x
[10:46] <kevor> :'(
[10:46] <kevor> it's your fault, now die :P
[10:46] <owtput> this is upon upgrading libgl1-xorg-dri
[10:46] <kevor> it's a lot slower though, don't think i'm gonna use it
[10:46] <kevor> a LOT slower
[10:46] <LinuxDolt> what's your system specs?
[10:46] <pitti> kevor: what do you want to change in g-v-m?
[10:46] <kevor> this is just a mediaPC
[10:47] <kevor> www.kev0r.nl/upload/code
[10:47] <Doonz> naw simpsons
[10:47] <kevor> hardcored a popupscreen that gives you options on what to do with the removable media
[10:47] <pitti> kevor: the CD commands are not hardcoded, you can change them in system->preferences->removable media
[10:47] <kevor> i know, but i needed USB options and CDrom with data
[10:48] <kevor> gnome-volume-properties does not give me enough
[10:48] <kevor> plus i wanted users to choose what to do with the mp3's on the disk
[10:50] <zoexi> does anyone know things about sound sinks?
[10:51] <Sly> frozen-bubble !
[10:51] <kevor> Sly: apt-get chromium
[10:51] <kevor> it's nice too :P
[10:51] <zoexi> er, audio sinks?
[10:52] <kemik> should it really take 1-2 minutes to mount a NFS share?
[10:52] <Sly> isnt that some shotting game ?
[10:52] <kevor> yes
[10:52] <Ng> kevor: no
[10:52] <nightswim> kemik: no, you miss a running daemon
[10:52] <Sly> consider it apt-getd already
[10:52] <kevor> Ng what no
[10:52] <kemik> nightswim:  on the client?
[10:53] <Sly> i only install frozen-bubble to keep the girlfriend happ
[10:53] <Sly> y
[10:53] <Ng> kevor: an NFS share should mount pretty quickly. how are you mounting it? can you ping the server? are there any firewalls in the way? and do you have portmap installed? :)
[10:53] <kevor> ey f-u, i'm not mounting anyting
[10:53] <Sly> wow i lik eit
[10:53] <Zaphod> hi all.
[10:53] <kevor> i know you would Sly
[10:53] <Zaphod> I am having a problem...
[10:54] <Zaphod> I just installed UBUNTU, and the only resolution I can get is 640x480
[10:54] <kevor> idd, could not find an r-type like game
[10:54] <Ng> kevor: sorry, I meant kemik ;)
[10:54] <kevor> :P
[10:54] <Zaphod> how do I get more resolution options?
[10:54] <omp342> am i stupid if i have trouble installing wine?
[10:54] <omp342> :D
[10:54] <Ng> get less almost identical nicks! ;)
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[10:54] <ubotu> fixres is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:54] <kemik> hehe
[10:54] <kemik> ke-tabcompletion ;)
[10:54] <kevor> ubotu is cute :)
[10:54] <ubotu> kevor: Syntax error in line 1
[10:54] <Zaphod> thanks
[10:54] <poningru> ubotu is lame
[10:54] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[10:55] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[10:55] <kevor> ubotu: for ((;;));/msg #ubuntu I r cute;done
[10:55] <ubotu> kevor: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:55] <kemik> Ng: the box that got the mounts is acting NAT/Firewall so i've disabled ping (even from inside the network) but everything else is fine so the FW isnt "in the way"
[10:55] <kevor> ubotu: talking shit ey?
[10:55] <ubotu> I don't know, kevor
[10:55] <hubsi> back in business
[10:55] <kemik> Ng:  i dont run portmap on the client
[10:56] <kevor> ubotu: you should know
[10:56] <ubotu> kevor: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:56] <kevor> ubotu: no ffs, now shuttup
[10:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, kevor
[10:56] <LinuxDolt> lol
[10:56] <Ng> kemik: you may well want to install nfs-common
[10:56] <Zaphod> another question... When I installed, it never asked for a root password?
[10:56] <cse_> Well, I got the word from my ISP. They block web and samba.. I know how to change apache's port, but can I change samba's port and have it work seamlessly?
[10:57] <kevor> true
[10:57] <Zaphod> how do I su to root?
[10:57] <kevor> !sudo
[10:57] <thoreauputic> !root
[10:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:57] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:57] <Zaphod> aha.. thanks
[10:57] <Zaphod> you guys are good....
[10:57] <kevor> ubotu is too cute :D
[10:57] <ubotu> kevor: I give up, what is it?
[10:57] <kemik> Ng: thanks :) now it's working as it should *doh*.. i had this working before i re-installed this client, but obviously i forgot a step.. :)
[10:58] <Ng> kemik: :)
[10:58] <Sly> jeesus
[10:59] <Sly> the 1st level is abit hard with them red spoinner things
[11:00] <kevor> Sly: Get the updates, but not the Yellow one, if you let it pass it'll give you an extra live
[11:00] <kevor> life
[11:01] <Sly> ill deffinitly be playing that for an hour somtime today
[11:01] <kevor> that's not gonna happen, there are only 4 weapons :(
[11:01] <kevor> gets boring fast
[11:02] <Sly> im simple minded =\
[11:02] <kemik> doom3 !
[11:02] <kemik> it scares me shitless :/
[11:02] <Sly> lol
[11:03] <kemik> have you tried it Sly ?
[11:03] <omp342> is there any guide for installing wine in ubuntu?
[11:03] <Sly> kemik doom3? sure i have
[11:03] <Sly> unless your about 15 i cant see how it would scare you =\
[11:03] <omp342> doom3 is stupid
[11:04] <omp342> hl2 is better :D
[11:04] <kemik> im 24 :(
[11:04] <Sly> mind you saying that im only just 19 tommorow
[11:04] <kevor>  05:02:59 up 152 days, 11:54,  6 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.01
[11:04] <kevor> sweeeheeet ><
[11:04] <omp342> i can see how doom 3 would be frightening
[11:04] <omp342> with all the dark maps
[11:04] <kemik> all the darkness and them monster just appearing
[11:04] <Zaphod> Hi again,
[11:04] <kevor> pff doom sux, you can just turn off ur monitor
[11:04] <kevor> gives the same effect
[11:04] <Zaphod> Pllease could sooeone give me the URl for screen resolutions again
[11:04] <kemik> heehehe
[11:04] <kevor> !fixres
[11:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:05] <thoreauputic> kevor: warty?
[11:05] <Sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ uptime
[11:05] <Sly>  10:04:47 up  1:17,  4 users,
[11:05] <omp342> you guys need to play hl2 instead
[11:05] <kevor> hoary
[11:05] <Sly> hmm yeh . lol
[11:05] <Zaphod> thanks
[11:05] <kemik> omp342:  it's so bright and non-scary :)
[11:05] <kevor> actually bought HL2
[11:05] <Sly> i'll be happy when i crack my ut disks out , thats all i play
[11:05] <kemik> btw, is HL2 for linux aswell?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> kevor: how can your uptime be 152 days? You haven't updated the warty kernel?
[11:05] <kevor> yes, but without rebooting
[11:05] <kemik> Sly:  UT 2003 or 4?
[11:06] <Sly> 2004 and the old one
[11:06] <omp342> no HL2 won't work on linux
[11:06] <linukso> kevor: kernel updated need reboot...
[11:06] <omp342> unless you get WINE working
[11:06] <Sly> 99/goty whichever it was
[11:06] <thoreauputic> kevor: ah - so you are still running 2.6.8 ...
[11:06] <omp342> which is what im trying to do unsucessfully ;)
[11:06] <kevor> lol thoreauputic this is not a ubuntu pc, this is my shell
[11:06] <thoreauputic> kevor: I see
[11:06] <kevor> Hostname: omega - OS: Linux 2.4.29-jda/i686 - CPU: 2 x Pentium Pro (198.667 MHz) - Processes: 82 - Uptime: 152d 11h 58m - Load Average: 0.07 - Memory Usage: 139.02MB/503.66MB (27.60%) - Disk Usage: 0.72GB/40.13GB (1.81%)
[11:07] <omp342> HL2 single player is pretty boring
[11:07] <thoreauputic> kevor: got it ;)
[11:07] <omp342> i just like it for all the mods
[11:07] <omp342> like cs:s
[11:07] <kevor> omp342: i was able to bunnyhop in HL2
[11:07] <kevor> went fast as a mofo with a red-glowing stick up his ass
[11:07] <omp342> hmm, that's cool
[11:07] <omp342> does that mean it's possible in cs:s?
[11:08] <gsuveg> anyone can show me icewm-deb-source ?
[11:08] <kevor> na, cs:s feels like ur playing in a big bucket of oil
[11:08] <Sly> anyone play battlefront under cedega ?
[11:08] <prova> whi so many conflict with apt-get ??
[11:08] <kevor> the old cs, 1.3 really was fast-gameplay
[11:09] <kevor> !tell prova why
[11:09] <kevor> :09 <ubotu> No, kevor, I won't. (target invalid?)
[11:09] <kevor> that bot really has an attitude problem
[11:10] <thoreauputic> kevor: heh - I'm guessing prova isn't registered
[11:10] <Ng> prova: what are you trying to apt-get?
[11:10] <kevor> i gues "why"  does not exist
[11:11] <thoreauputic> kevor: right, but I don't think ubotu can /msg unregistered nicks (not sure)
[11:11] <prova> mm I cannot install due conflict problem ... with apt-get install ... I'm confusing...
[11:11] <prova> wmaker and openoffice....
[11:11] <thoreauputic> prova: you sources are probably wrong
[11:11] <Ng> openoffice should have been installed already
[11:11] <thoreauputic> !sources
[11:11] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:12] <omp342> =o
[11:12] <omp342> i love cs 1.3
[11:12] <prova> I've ppc
[11:12] <omp342> my fav version of cs has to be 1.3
[11:12] <kevor> mine was 1.1
[11:12] <Ng> cs:s!
[11:12] <prova> ok but apt-setup have all repositories...
[11:12] <kevor> jumping running flying with Deagle, didnt matter
[11:12] <omp342> now i play cs:s
[11:12] <Ng> I've played it since the early betas and I like cs:s the most :)
[11:12] <Ng> kevor: jumping and shooting is dumb ;p
[11:12] <thoreauputic> prova: you ran update of course ?
[11:13] <omp342> because the gaming community im a member of only has cs:s and bf2 servers
[11:13] <omp342> at least i get admin :)
[11:13] <kevor> not with a deagle, it 0wned :D
[11:13] <prova> yes apt-get update run without error
[11:13] <omp342> argh
[11:13] <omp342> i have trouble installing ppracer
[11:13] <thoreauputic> prova: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin
[11:14] <omp342> can i get it from apt-get ?
[11:14] <prova> but with apt-get install wmaker  come many message about dependency
[11:15] <prova> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:15] <prova>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:15] <thoreauputic> prova: are those the only lines in your list??
[11:16] <thoreauputic> don't paste the rest please
[11:16] <prova> yes the other I've deleted ;)
[11:16] <thoreauputic> prova: *cough*
[11:17] <thoreauputic> prova: you need the others to get all dependencies
[11:17] <Ng> argh
[11:17] <thoreauputic> prova: read ubotu's link below
[11:17] <Ng> the wiki badly needs an authoritative list of sources
[11:17] <thoreauputic> !sources
[11:17] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:17] <Ng> too many people delete them ;/
[11:18] <Ng> don't delete things if you don't know what they are! ;)
[11:18] <prova> who? I come from debian planet I've only one max 2 in may sources...
[11:18] <dubnium> what is evolution? useless app?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> prova: just read that - you don't understand how it works, clearly
[11:18] <prova> heheheehe
[11:19] <Ng> dubnium: it's an email, calendar and contacts manager
[11:19] <dubnium> got enough of those
[11:19] <srijith_zz> dubnium: yup.. useless for me..
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> hello all
[11:20] <Ng> dubnium: for future reference, synaptic can show you information about a package, like what it is and what it does
[11:20] <Zaphod> Hi Again, hehehe
[11:20] <dubnium> ya i forgot just started using it today
[11:20] <dubnium> i feel like im cheating
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> to everyone that helped me with my firefox problem... soemthing was acting funny (probably due to overheating) and a restart fixed it :P
[11:21] <Zaphod> Another question... I have a Windows XP Professional installation on another drive in my PC.
[11:21] <DukGalNamu> i should probably check my ram too
[11:21] <Zaphod> how do I view the files on that drive from ubuntu?
[11:21] <dubnium> mount ntfs
[11:21] <Zaphod> how do I do that?
[11:22] <dubnium> edit the fstab
[11:22] <dubnium> then do mount -a
[11:22] <Zaphod> I am very new to Linux, and don;t understand exactly how to do that...
[11:22] <Zaphod> what is the fstab? and how do I edit it?
[11:23] <poningru> !fstab
[11:23] <ubotu> poningru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:23] <Zaphod> and what will a mount -a do?
[11:23] <poningru> sigh
[11:23] <dubnium> http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php
[11:23] <poningru> hold on let me get the link
[11:23] <dubnium> got it
[11:23] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : fstab is a file in /etc/fsatb
[11:23] <Zaphod> thanks alot..
[11:23] <Zaphod> one last question...
[11:23] <poningru> oh hehe
[11:23] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[11:23] <ubotu> methinks mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:23] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : it describes how to mount things automatically
[11:23] <prova> tnks look better now ;)
[11:23] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : mount -a mounts everything described in the fstab file
[11:24] <srijith> Zaphod - > http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:24] <omp342> zaphod, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:24] <omp342> lol
[11:24] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : mount -a is called at system startup
[11:24] <omp342> you said it faster than me srijith!
[11:24] <poningru> well I have a question, who do I contact to get the install cds before september 21st
[11:24] <omp342> ARGH
[11:24] <Zaphod> we run GoldMine at my company.
[11:24] <poningru> like a large amount
[11:24] <Zaphod> I know that you do not get Goldmine for Linux,
[11:24] <LinuxDolt> people actually need help mounting their partitions... the mount and fstab man pages aren't enough?
[11:24] <srijith> omp342: hey.. what happened to your install eventually?
[11:24] <poningru> because I heard it takes more than couple of monts
[11:24] <Zaphod> is there anyway that I can run goldmine from within linux?
[11:24] <wickedpuppy> what is goldmine ??
[11:24] <omp342> oh, i guess the dvd burned bad
[11:24] <Ng> poningru: there should be contact details on the Shippit part of the ubuntu website
[11:24] <omp342> i burned it again, on another dvd-r
[11:24] <omp342> and it worked fine
[11:24] <poningru> hmm ok thanks ng
[11:25] <Zaphod> GoldMine is a CRM Package
[11:25] <omp342> =] 
[11:25] <srijith> omp342: great! install went all ok? You are using SATA disks right?
[11:25] <LinuxDolt> Zaphod: goldmine some sort of windows game?  if it's directx you need to buy cedega, if it's not, wine might be able to emulate it
[11:25] <Zaphod> like is there any way of running a windows application from within Linux?
[11:25] <srijith> Zaphod: you may need wine emulator
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[11:25] <omp342> yah
[11:25] <omp342> it never even asked me about my SATA hdd
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> ubotu, tell Zaphod about wine
[11:26] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : there are loads of different ways to do that..
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> hmms .. that does't work
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:26] <srijith> omp342: cool! So SATA was never a problem.. donno why anyther guy was having problems
[11:26] <srijith> wickedpuppy: nice try :)
[11:26] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : have a look at the "wine emulator" on google.
[11:26] <omp342> yah =] 
[11:27] <usun> hi, anyone know how to install ffmpeg2theora application on ubuntu?
[11:27] <LinuxDolt> winehq.org
[11:27] <omp342> i just installed tuxracer
[11:27] <omp342> ill brb :D
[11:27] <usun> it is a .bin file
[11:27] <usun> /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:28] <usun> how do i install this file!
[11:28] <clem_yeats_away> ./myfile.bin
[11:28] <omp342> wow
[11:28] <omp342> something is wrong
[11:28] <omp342> tuxracer is lagging like crazy
[11:28] <clem_yeats> bin stands for binary
[11:28] <omp342> do i need to download new ati drivers?
[11:28] <clem_yeats> omp342: do you have glx and dri activated ?
[11:28] <usun> yes, so what do i do with it. what is the command line to install the app?
[11:29] <clem_yeats> usun : ./file.bin
[11:29] <usun> thks
[11:29] <clem_yeats> usun : just execute the binary file
[11:29] <prova> usun: try tho chmod to make  executable than execute it..
[11:29] <Ng> usun: chmod +x /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:29] <clem_yeats> usun : yes... chmod 777 ./file.bin
[11:29] <Ng> usun: then just /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:29] <Pac> hi
[11:29] <srijith> clem_yeats, 777!
[11:29] <Ng> usun: (in a terminal)
[11:29] <omp342> hmm i dono how can i check if i have it activated?
[11:29] <Pac> how can i use wlan with ubuntu?
[11:30] <clem_yeats> srijith: it's an install file, it'll be deleted in two minutes, so why not 777..
[11:30] <Zaphod> in the ntfs mounting thing, it says that I must su to root, but I can't do that..
[11:30] <Ng> Zaphod: sudo su
[11:30] <clem_yeats> omp342: have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <srijith> clem_yeats, he better, now :)
[11:30] <omp342> ok
[11:30] <clem_yeats> omp342: see if you can find the lines load dri and load glx
[11:30] <Pac> how can i use wlan with ubuntu?
[11:30] <Zaphod> thanks
[11:30] <clem_yeats> Pac : what do you mean ?
[11:31] <Pac> i need to install my Belkin WLan card on ubuntu
[11:31] <clem_yeats> pac : what chipset does it have ?
[11:31] <Pac> clem_yeats: where would it tell me that?
[11:31] <arphetic> MMMM as soon as i press play on XMMS it freezes ??
[11:31] <DukGalNamu> for future refrence, is there any way to force the kernal to reload the system into ram without rebooting?
[11:31] <srijith> Pac, ndiswrapper?
[11:31] <clem_yeats> pac : is it pci ?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: please don't advise people to use chmod 777 - it's a really bad habit for people to get into
[11:31] <Sly> arphetic have you got nvidia drivers installed ?
[11:31] <omp342> yah those lines are there
[11:32] <Ng> DukGalNamu: no
[11:32] <Pac> clem_yeats im not sure
[11:32] <Pac> ive got the model
[11:32] <Pac> if thats any help
[11:32] <clem_yeats> thoreauputic : it's a temp file..
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Ng: what about specific programs?
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Ng: or at the very least purge cached programs from ram?
[11:32] <clem_yeats> Pac : no, I mean is a PCI card... ?
[11:32] <Pac> yes
[11:32] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: "it's a bad habit" <----
[11:32] <Ng> DukGalNamu: when you quit a program it is gona from memory, although parts of it may linger in cache
[11:32] <Pac> for laptops
[11:32] <Determinist> arphetic: switch to the esd plugin for output, it wont freeze anymore
[11:32] <Ng> DukGalNamu: you can fill the caches with other things if you really want to, but why would it matter?
[11:32] <clem_yeats> thoreauputic : why ?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> Ng: well, firefox had problems allt he way until i restarted
[11:33] <arphetic> How do i do that?
[11:33] <arphetic> killall esd?
[11:33] <Pac> clem_yeats : its a pci card. yes.
[11:33] <omp342> clem_yeats: those 2 lines are there.
[11:33] <Determinist> arphetic: CTRL+P , pick a esd plugin for default output
[11:33] <clem_yeats> omp342 : are they commented out ?
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> Ng: probably cause something screwy happened with the ram or something and stayed there
[11:33] <Ng> DukGalNamu: either a firefox process was lingering around or something else is going on
[11:33] <omp342> no
[11:33] <srijith> clem_yeats, i guess once you fall into the habit, every time you get a permission problem, people will tend to use 777
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> Ng: possible, i thought it was java
[11:33] <clem_yeats> Pac : you said it was a laptop ?
[11:33] <Pac> yes
[11:33] <Pac> pci card
[11:33] <arphetic> Determinist: Ctrl + P = dead
[11:34] <Ng> srijith: one could argue that on a single user machine that isn't really a problem ;)
[11:34] <clem_yeats> srijith : well, that doesn't mean one should never use 777..
[11:34] <srijith> Pac, you may need ndiswrapper?
[11:34] <Ng> DukGalNamu: could well be, java_vm processes seem to like hanging around ;)
[11:34] <srijith> clem_yeats, almost never
[11:34] <DukGalNamu> Ng: i should have checked for it :P
[11:34] <clem_yeats> srijith : I understand the concern though.
[11:34] <Pac> srijith : where do i get ndiswrapper from
[11:35] <srijith> !ndiswrapper
[11:35] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> Ng: all well, i had to restart anyways... kernel update
[11:35] <bukaka> Ng, i get this error
[11:35] <bukaka> Ng, /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:35] <Pac> thanks
[11:35] <bukaka> usun@SUN:~$ chmod 777 ./home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:35] <bukaka> chmod: cannot access `./home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin': No such file or directory
[11:35] <bukaka> usun@SUN:~$
[11:35] <Pac> srijith : then it will work?
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: umm, go to ubuntu.com and download it
[11:35] <omp342> clem_yeats: no they are not commented out
[11:35] <srijith> Pac, check this too -> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21731.html
[11:35] <gsuveg> can i build a deb from a simple tgz ?
[11:35] <Pac> ok thanks :))
[11:35] <Ng> bukaka: take the . off the front of /home/
[11:36] <Ng> bukaka: . means "current directory"
[11:36] <arphetic> Is it also possible to set ESD to default through terminal?
[11:36] <srijith> Pac,  and search the Ubuntu wiki and forums.. I am sure others too would have shared their experience
[11:36] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: uhh... i've had ubuntu installed for a few weeks now, i'm STILL trying to get my stinking printer shared
[11:36] <bukaka> Ng, thks
[11:36] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: ohh, that requires samba
[11:36] <LinuxDolt> finally got it to work locally
[11:36] <Pac> srijith whats this ndiswrapper for then?
[11:36] <omp342> so should i download new ati drivers?
[11:36] <bukaka> Ng, it works, now how do i install it
[11:36] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: i have samba, and file shares are all working fine
[11:36] <clem_yeats> Pac : you need to identify your chipset first of all. That is the component that your wifi card is using.
[11:36] <bukaka> Ng, now how do i execute it
[11:37] <Pac> clem_yeats how do i find that out
[11:37] <bukaka> Ng, thks
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: then it should be shared...
[11:37] <Pac> !ndiswrapper
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:37] <clem_yeats> Pac : well... it's a laptop, so I'm guessing your wifi card is not a PCI card but a PCMCIA right ?
[11:37] <Ng> bukaka: I suspect that file is the program itself and there is no installer, so cp it to /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora, that puts it in your path and you can just call it as ffmpeg2theora from a terminal
[11:37] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: oh, it is, but it can't find the dang drivers to install
[11:37] <owtput> hey guys, anyone know of a nice monospaced font?
[11:37] <Ng> owtput: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono :)
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: so you need your drivers?
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: for the printer?
[11:38] <clem_yeats> owtput : courrier :)
[11:38] <owtput> Ng: yeah, that's a nice font, any others
[11:38] <Pac> clem_yeats its like a card that slots it
[11:38] <Ng> owtput: pass ;)
[11:38] <Zaphod> another questions... I am trying to play MP3's, and it says I can't. says I need to install the plugins.. how do I do this?
[11:38] <owtput> i'll be using it in a term (urxvt most likely,) and irssi
[11:38] <bukaka> Ng, nok, yes i have executed it...
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[11:38] <clem_yeats> Pac : like a thin rectangular card that goes on the side of the laptop.
[11:38] <bukaka> Ng, Ok /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:38] <bukaka> and it executed it..
[11:38] <LinuxDolt> i need to be able to get cupsaddsmb to run, but it asks for root password, (i have enabled root) which i type in, but it still doesn't proceed
[11:39] <fluffybunny_> is there a channel for Evolution?
[11:39] <arphetic> Determinist: You still alive?
[11:39] <arphetic> Or sly ;)
[11:39] <owtput> is there another mirror in Australia besides au.archive?
[11:40] <Pac> clem_yeats: yes it is
[11:40] <arphetic> mMM
[11:40] <Pac> :)
[11:40] <clem_yeats> Pac : what it the name of your wifi card (on the box) ?
[11:40] <Pac> Belkin
[11:40] <Determinist> arphetic: kinda, i'm at work...
[11:40] <Sly> sorry i just had a beep ........... ?
[11:40] <Sly> have i missed somthing =\
[11:40] <Pac> nope sly
[11:40] <Pac> dont thinks so
[11:40] <owtput> Sly: someone honking your horn
[11:40] <DukGalNamu> yeah
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> Sly: beep
[11:41] <Sly> arphetic either enable your output to esd or................  if that fails you could try killall esd ?
[11:41] <clem_yeats> Pac : I need more info than that
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> :P
[11:41] <Pac> clem_yeats ive installed ndiswrapper now i put in the windows disk right?
[11:41] <Sly> if that fails....... use beep-media-player =D
[11:41] <arphetic> Determinist: ok ;)
[11:41] <arphetic> Sly: how do i set it to ESD?
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> Sly: beep-media-player???
[11:41] <bukaka> Ng, wants i run the file /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:41] <arphetic> Determinist: Ctrl + p doesnt work
[11:41] <Sly> i dont use xmms so i dont know
[11:42] <LinuxDolt> and once again, no one is helping me
[11:42] <Sly> i use beep-media-player :)
[11:42] <Determinist> arphetic: check the menues in xmms, it should be preferences
[11:42] <clem_yeats> Pac : ok
[11:42] <Ng> bukaka: cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[11:42] <bukaka> Ng, and i get the usage commands, does that mean its ready to use
[11:42] <Ng> bukaka: then it's installed
[11:42] <Ng> bukaka: yes
[11:42] <Tribune> hi. i did re install my window xp. how ever seem my grub mssing and keep on detecting winxp. how can i redo my grub?
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: still not sure what the problem is, you can't find the drivers for what?
[11:42] <clem_yeats> Pac : insert the card and type "lspci"
[11:42] <arphetic> ah k
[11:42] <Sly> DukGalNamu , yes try it :)
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> Sly: what is it?
[11:42] <Pac> ok clem
[11:42] <bukaka> thks!
[11:42] <Sly> similer to xmms
[11:42] <Pac> in terminal?
[11:43] <bukaka> Ng, thks - lifesaver!
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> Sly: how so?
[11:43] <bukaka> Ng, are you a debian expert
[11:43] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: the printer, there are no printer drivers exported into /var/lib/samba/printers
[11:43] <Ng> bukaka: I wouldn't say that, I've just been using it for a while :)
[11:43] <Sly> that ist has , all buttons to play music files
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: this is the wrong place to ask that
[11:43] <bukaka> Ng, ubuntu or debian ? or both?
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: head over to #samba and have ALOT of patience
[11:44] <Ng> bukaka: both
[11:44] <owtput> bukaka: they're pretty similar
[11:44] <Ng> bukaka: they're pretty much the same inside
[11:44] <bukaka> yup, ubuntu runs on debian
[11:44] <bukaka> its great
[11:44] <Sly> DukGalNamu , just a personal preference over xmms
[11:44] <concept10> I erased my gnome menu from the panel, how did I get it back, i mean all of them, applications, places, system
[11:44] <LinuxDolt> howso?  this is a quirkyness in this particular distro, i have gotten all this stuff to happen successfully in gentoo
[11:44] <DukGalNamu> Sly: something tells me that it plays beeps instead of music for some reason...
[11:44] <LinuxDolt> so, i need to ask HERE
[11:44] <Sly> lmao :)
[11:44] <Sly> i can see why
[11:44] <fluffybunny_> i'm using evolution as a mail client, and i have all these weird folders (like ".login_conf") with "emails" from my server - looks like commented code - is is safe to delete these?
[11:45] <owtput> another gentoo-ist dabbling with ubuntu
[11:45] <owtput> welcome to the fold
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: then why aren't you using gentoo?
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: and why don't you export them manually?
[11:45] <bukaka> Ng, when i went to cp the file, it did not work...
[11:45] <gsuveg> how i make deb from a simple source package ? i dont remember the tool name
[11:45] <srijith> gentoo is for newbies.. grus use LFS ;)
[11:45] <bukaka> Ng, so i don't really need to do this...
[11:45] <owtput> bukaka: which file?
[11:45] <Sly> arphetic, i just apt-getd xmms
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: or how about compiling samba yourself?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> bukaka: prepend sudo
[11:45] <srijith> grus=gurus
[11:46] <Sly> and sure enough Cntrl + p fetchs up the out plugin screen
[11:46] <Sly> among other options
[11:46] <bukaka> sudo cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:46] <arphetic> SLy i have that
[11:46] <bukaka> ?
[11:46] <Ng> bukaka: it's not vital, you could try it again with "sudo " at the front, I should probably have mentioned that
[11:46] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: because ubuntu is a binary distro, and as such, supposed to operate out of the box much more quickly than the week it takes to get gentoo running in the first place
[11:46] <bukaka> Ng, tHKS
[11:46] <arphetic> Alternative sound device: /dev/esp ??
[11:46] <Sly> and it still crashs ?
[11:46] <simplydazed> anybody setup a decent network antivirus?
[11:46] <bukaka> /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:46] <bukaka> OPS SORRY
[11:46] <arphetic> Sly:  Alternative sound device: /dev/esp ??
[11:46] <bukaka> thoreauputic, thks
[11:46] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: yes, but it also will not always be working EXACTLY how you want it, so do a little dirty work if you want it perfect!
[11:46] <pippijn> hi all
[11:46] <thoreauputic> bukaka: no problem :)
[11:47] <bukaka> thoreauputic, you need a simpler NICK
[11:47] <Sly> under Output Plugin: you dont see eSound Output Plugin 1.2.10 ???
[11:47] <fayyaz> hello
[11:47] <bukaka> like Ng!
[11:47] <pippijn> does anyone know of a tool that can create a thumbnail html site from a directory of images?
[11:47] <arphetic> yes i do
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bukaka:  thore <tab>
[11:47] <DukGalNamu> srijith: what would someone that does LFS be doing in here?
[11:47] <ompaul> bukaka, no he don't :)
[11:47] <Ng> bukaka: you're welcome :)
[11:47] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: i've never exported CUPS printer drivers to samba manually, where does CUPS keep them?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bukaka: you can tab complete nicks :)
[11:47] <arphetic> works fine now
[11:47] <arphetic> Thank you
[11:47] <owtput> whitmanputic
[11:48] <Sly> :)
[11:48] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: man should tell you
[11:48] <bukaka> Ng, when i go to type in:
[11:48] <Ng> pippijn: galrey, igal, bins... search the ubuntu packages for "gallery"
[11:48] <bukaka> Ng, sudo cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:48] <bukaka> cp: missing destination file
[11:48] <bukaka> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[11:48] <poningru> ok problem
[11:48] <thoreauputic> owtput: hmm - I'm not a Whitman fan actually
[11:48] <bukaka> Ng, i get that error
[11:48] <ompaul> DukGalNamu, who da man [man man, man apropos] 
[11:48] <Ng> bukaka: sudo cp /home/usun/ffmpegblahblah /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[11:48] <DukGalNamu> ompaul: that was.... random.....
[11:49] <Ng> bukaka: the /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora bit is important, that's the destination for cp to use :)
[11:49] <Chousuke> Ng: hm
[11:49] <ompaul> DukGalNamu, that was very accurate :)
[11:49] <Chousuke> it seems that .bin might be an installer.
[11:49] <poningru> is there anyway possible that our shipment can be expidited? cause our lug install fest is in september 21 and we need a large amount of cds
[11:49] <Chousuke> sh it.
[11:49] <poningru> like 100
[11:49] <Ng> Chousuke: I think it's just eh binary, he said running it gave him usage options
[11:49] <srijith> DukGalNamu, just having fun :) but to answer your question, what LinuxDolt was doing here ..
[11:49] <poningru> is it possible to get it shipped through the warehouse faster?
[11:49] <Ng> poningru: you'll have to ask the Shippit people that
[11:50] <poningru> do they have a channel?
[11:50] <owtput> thoreauputic: he's the "simpler" transcendentalist
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Chousuke: Ng, it is a binary - I have it here
[11:50] <Ng> ponigru: I doubt it, but there should be email links
[11:50] <deufo> where can i get more splashy themes?
[11:50] <Ng> thoreauputic: ta
[11:50] <bukaka> Ng, i see
[11:50] <poningru> right but its just faceless info@shipit.ubuntu.org
[11:50] <ompaul> poningru, they have an email address, Mr mako hill made reference to it on planetubuntu in the last couple of days
[11:51] <Ng> poningru: did you notice the sentence on the front of the SHipit page that says "If you have organized an event and have an urgent need for Ubuntu CDs, please read the FAQ and contact us."? ;)
[11:51] <poningru> right
[11:51] <Determinist> arphetic: you sorted yet?
[11:51] <ompaul> poningru, so mail it with the subject Lug Installfest  and put in the date
[11:51] <owtput> brb. solaris box down.
[11:51] <poningru> sigh
[11:51] <Zaphod> is there any way to chek that my sound is working?
[11:51] <poningru> ok Its just I dont like emailing to these addys
[11:52] <ompaul> poningru, sitting in IRC ain't helping your cause, bite the bullet and do it
[11:52] <Zaphod> I don;t hear anything, but I am not sure how to check in the settings etc..
[11:52] <DukGalNamu> srijith: thats it, you convinced me, i am building an lfs system
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> what will a dvd drive show up as in /media ?
[11:52] <kemik> LFS? whyyy?
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> dvdrom01 ?
[11:53] <srijith> DukGalNamu: glad to be an inspiration :)
[11:53] <Ng> wickedpuppy: cdrom0 is more like I'd think, that's what mine shows up as at least
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> because i am INSANE!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> haha
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> he
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> umm
[11:53] <ompaul> kemik, because on can, a bit like gentoo :)
[11:53] <srijith> wickedpuppy, I just get it as cdrom :(
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> i got cdrom and dvdrom ... master and slave
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> but i only got one cdrom0...
[11:53] <DukGalNamu> kemik: it sounds like fun?
[11:53] <ompaul> kemik, s/on/one
[11:53] <fluffybunny_> i'm using evolution as a mail client, and i have all these weird folders (like ".login_conf") with "emails" from my server - looks like commented code - is is safe to delete these?
[11:53] <Sly> DukGalNamu , let me buy some of the drugs your on pls
[11:53] <Ng> wickedpuppy: is there a cdrom1?
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> no ..
[11:54] <DukGalNamu> Sly: its called 'lack of sleep'
[11:54] <srijith> wickedpuppy: why dont u insert something into the drive and then cd to that? easiest
[11:54] <DukGalNamu> Sly: and it has LOTS of bad side effects
[11:54] <ompaul> fluffybunny_, paste one into pastebin
[11:54] <Ng> fluffybunny_: is it an IMAP server?
[11:54] <Sly> with a dose of caffine i surpose ?
[11:54] <fluffybunny_> Ng: yes, its IMAP
[11:54] <kemik> DukGalNamu:  i'll go for the first option "you're insane"
[11:54] <wickedpuppy> i can detect it and burn and so on
[11:54] <DukGalNamu> Sly: not much more than about 100mg
[11:54] <wickedpuppy> but sometimes i can't read what i burn on windowz
[11:54] <Ng> fluffybunny_: you can unsubscribe from things you don't want to see on an IMAP server, which is probably better than deleting them
[11:54] <Zaphod> I need to install a plugin for MP3's, it says they are available in multiverse, abut I can find the multiverse repository
[11:54] <bukaka> Ng, okkk i have problems here
[11:55] <Zaphod> any ideas?
[11:55] <bukaka> Ng, cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[11:55] <bukaka> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora': Permission deniedusun@SUN:~$ cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora': Permission deniedusun@SUN:~$
[11:55] <bukaka> >
[11:55] <Ng> bukaka: sudo?
[11:55] <Zaphod> !multiserve
[11:55] <ubotu> Zaphod: I haven't a clue
[11:55] <bukaka> Ng, ohhhhhhhh
[11:55] <kemik> ompaul:  i consider gentoo ppl crazy.. "oh the joy of compiletimes!"
[11:55] <Zaphod> !multiverse
[11:55] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[11:55] <bukaka> Ng, sorryu
[11:55] <wickedpuppy> !multiverse
[11:55] <kemik> ;)
[11:55] <Zaphod> !repositories
[11:55] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:55] <fluffybunny_> Ng: thanks - so that's normal for IMAP servers then?
[11:55] <DukGalNamu> kemik: actually i have a slow system that i am not using....
[11:55] <bukaka> Ng, yyeee haa
[11:56] <Sly> Wooot :)
[11:56] <bukaka> Ng, do you spend much time on this Ubuntu list?
[11:56] <kemik> DukGalNamu:  k. a side project then.. :)
[11:56] <bukaka> Ng, thanks! X
[11:56] <Ng> fluffybunny_: there's nothing "normal" about IMAP, but yeah, I have some things in mine that were created by other programs
[11:56] <Ng> bukaka: sometimes :)
[11:56] <fluffybunny_> Ng: thanks
[11:56] <Determinist> clear
[11:56] <bukaka> Ng, where are you from or based?
[11:56] <Determinist> quit
[11:56] <bukaka> window 2
[11:56] <arphetic> lets see some XChat plugin for XMMS
[11:56] <bukaka> clumsy today
[11:56] <omp342> ok im off to sleep
[11:56] <DukGalNamu> kemik: of course.... but if it works it may replace what i currently have...
[11:56] <clem_yeats> gnight
[11:56] <Sly> lets eeem xmms get took over by beep-media-player
[11:57] <omp342> bye guys
[11:57] <ompaul> kemik, there is a thing http://www.funroll-loops.org/ not totally office safe - a tad of language in the compile options :)
[11:57] <Ng> bukaka: south coast of England
[11:57] <kemik> ompaul:  thats ok, im @home trying to study for an exam
[11:58] <kevor> How can i put num-lock on at boot of ubu-y?
[11:58] <DukGalNamu> i got a question, are the pentium 2s 386 or 486?
[11:58] <arphetic> restart
[11:58] <DukGalNamu> lol
[11:58] <Sly> did he just say restart
[11:58] <Sly> ?
[11:58] <Ng> kevor: there's a numlockx package, needs to be called from an X startup script somewhere
[11:58] <Zaphod> Please can someone help me.. how do I install multiverse?
[11:58] <joee> how do I locally search for installed packages?
[11:58] <bukaka> Ng, okk i am in london
[11:58] <kevor> cewl
[11:58] <bukaka> Ng, are you a programmer by trade
[11:59] <Ng> yes ;)
[11:59] <Ng> ah cool, London. I'm in Brighton :)
[11:59] <bukaka> Ng, ahh i see. cool
[11:59] <thoreauputic> joee:  dpkg -l | less (for a very long list)
[11:59] <bukaka> Ng, you got a website? just a programmer or ... artist
[11:59] <thoreauputic> joee: or dpkg -l | grep <foo>
[12:00] <Ng> bukaka: I'm a programmer by trade, I don't write stuff in my own time at the moment, so I just have a crappy blog ;)
[12:00] <joee> :) thanks thoreauputic
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> i got a question, are the pentium 2s 386 or 486?
[12:00] <crimsun> 686
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> ummm
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> i doubt it
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> seriously?
[12:00] <bukaka> Ng, ok cool
[12:00] <Ng> he's right
[12:00] <timl_> yes, seriously
[12:00] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: crimsun is right
[12:00] <Ng> PII and above is 686
[12:00] <bukaka> Ng, i am a designer... and i am learning unix, python.
[12:00] <Zaphod> I am not winning with installing a plugin for MP3. please can someone help me out how to install a plugin for mp3?
[12:00] <Ng> bukaka: kewl
[12:00] <bukaka> Ng, you know Python?
[12:00] <DukGalNamu> i thought it was lower....
[12:00] <Ng> bukaka: only a tiny bit
[12:01] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: the 233?
[12:01] <timl_> DukGalNamu: yes.
[12:01] <ompaul> !tell Zaphod about restricted
[12:01] <bukaka> Ng, hmm - i want to work with pygame... create something interactive. i should begin this soon
[12:01] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: pentium 200 is a 586 (maybe that's what you were thinking of?)
[12:01] <timl_> DukGalNamu:  386 and 486 are completely seperate to the pentium series
[12:01] <bukaka> Ng, perhaps i should consult u
[12:01] <bukaka> Ng, are you on holidays?
[12:01] <Pac> !raw
[12:01] <ubotu> Pac: What?
[12:02] <Ng> bukaka: nope, I'm at work ;)
[12:02] <ompaul> !test
[12:02] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:02] <Pac> !ubotu
[12:02] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:02] <Pac> !add
[12:02] <ubotu> it has been said that add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[12:02] <bukaka> Ng, haha bONUS
[12:02] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: yeah, so mine is a 233 and thus a 686?
[12:02] <Ng> bukaka: and I'm really not that knowledgeable about python - there are plenty of peopl in the UK who are though, probably quite  few in London - have you attended any Linux User Group meetings?
[12:02] <arphetic> Linux [kernel 2.6.10-5-386]  || CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ at 1997.109MHz [3956.73 bogomips]  || Disk: 5.70 used of 52.88Gb || Mem: used 0.0/0.0 Swap: used 0.0/0.1 || Up: 1:57, Load: 0.12
[12:02] <arphetic> Linux [kernel 2.6.10-5-386]  || CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ at 1997.109MHz [3956.73 bogomips]  || Disk: 5.70 used of 52.88Gb || Mem: used 0.0/0.0 Swap: used 0.0/0.1 || Up: 1:57, Load: 0.12
[12:02] <bukaka> Ng, great
[12:02] <arphetic> mmm
[12:02] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: yup
[12:02] <Pac> !nfs
[12:02] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: nice
[12:03] <ompaul> new kernel there goes my uptime :)
[12:03] <joee> is it possible to run an apt-get remove package
[12:03] <Dejavu> hi everyone
[12:03] <bukaka> Ng. no can you tell me about them. where are they?
[12:03] <joee> that cleans up all conf files etc.
[12:03] <kemik> was there not Pentium I - 233mhz?
[12:03] <bukaka> Ng, hmmm yes i want to use Pygame
[12:03] <Pac> !nvu
[12:03] <ubotu> [nvu]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[12:03] <joee> is it possible to run an apt-get remove package that cleans up all conf files etc.
[12:03] <crimsun> joee: that'd be 'purge' not 'remove'
[12:03] <zcat[1] > AMD Sempron is k7 ?
[12:03] <joee> crimsun okay
[12:03] <thoreauputic> joee: apt-get remove --purte
[12:03] <thoreauputic> bah
[12:03] <Ng> bukaka: www.lug.org.uk
[12:03] <thoreauputic> --pyrge
[12:03] <thoreauputic> hahah
[12:04] <kemik> heh
[12:04] <kemik> someones having a hard time spelling "purge"
[12:04] <arphetic> Linux [kernel 2.6.10-5-386]  || CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ at 1997.109MHz [3956.73 bogomips]  || Disk: 5.70 used of 52.88Gb || Mem: used 0.0/0.0 Swap: used 0.0/0.1 || Up: 1:59, Load: 0.11
[12:04] <azriel0184> ok, now that was weird... my ubuntu machine lost its default route...
[12:04] <Sly> Ng , i feel left out and a outcast at our local sheffield Lug
[12:04] <arphetic> ah now its fixed :)
[12:04] <zcat[1] > anyone?
[12:04] <kemik> thoreauputic:  concentrate.... cooooncentraaate
[12:04] <Sly> all the peeps are friendly enough just old enough to be my farther. so i only attended once
[12:04] <Ng> Sly: the brighton lug hardly ever meets and only ever does in a pub, it's rubbish ;)
[12:04] <Ng> hehe
[12:04] <Dejavu> zcat: nops
[12:04] <thoreauputic> kemik: not spelling - my fingers have turned to jello
[12:04] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:04] <joee> thoreauputic --purte is not unterstood
[12:04] <DukGalNamu> lol
[12:04] <thoreauputic> joee: silly typo - sorry
[12:04] <Sly> me been 19 tommorow going to a meeting with 56/57 yr olds
[12:05] <Sly> wasnt realy my scene
[12:05] <Dejavu> can anyone tell me how can i extract all the contents of a .sh file in a folder ?
[12:05] <zcat[1] > AMD Sempron(tm)   2400+  - which is that then, 686?
[12:05] <bukaka> Ng, i am female. i would be the only female
[12:05] <Ng> bukaka: so?
[12:05] <Ng> bukaka: also, probably not in London
[12:05] <DukGalNamu> zcat[1] : that is k9 i think
[12:06] <bukaka> Ng, hehe huh?
[12:06] <Sly> zcat do a uname -a should be in there
[12:06] <ilba7r> !info kernel update
[12:06] <bukaka> Ng, in the photos there are NO females
[12:06] <zcat[1] > hmm.. mplayer only has 686 or k7..
[12:06] <DukGalNamu> zcat[1] : maybe k7
[12:06] <DukGalNamu> not sure
[12:06] <Sly> i686
[12:07] <ilba7r> where can i find documentation on the new kernel update
[12:07] <DukGalNamu> zcat[1] : in either case, chances are its 64bit
[12:07] <Ng> bukaka: hmm, well I do know of a few female linux users in London, but maybe they don't go to the lugs ;)
[12:07] <thoreauputic> Dejavu: a .sh file is usually a script...
[12:07] <Ng> bukaka: it means you'd be popular at least ;)
[12:07] <zcat[1] > says i686 here.. also says I'm running a 386 kernel..
[12:07] <DukGalNamu> zcat[1] : you would want to compile most everything you want.. i wouldn't take long to begin with....
[12:07] <Ng> zcat[1] : ubuntu installs a 386 kernel by default
[12:07] <Sly> zcat ignore the 386 at the end of the kernal
[12:07] <Dejavu> thoreauputic: its installer for UT2004 and i wanna extract the executables from it .. any idea how can i do so ?
[12:07] <Ng> but yeah, it's built with pentium optimisations
[12:08] <zcat[1] > nah, gonna upgrade the kernel..
[12:08] <ramin> why wont "sudo apt-get install xmms" work on a fresh ubuntusystem?
[12:08] <Sly> zcat that is the correct kernal for your processor
[12:08] <thoreauputic> Dejavu: just run it -  bash nameoffile.sh
[12:08] <zcat[1] > 386 kernel for a 686 chip?
[12:08] <ramin> what reposteries  must i  add
[12:08] <thoreauputic> Dejavu: or sh nameoffile.sh
[12:09] <Dejavu> thoreauputic: actually there seems tobe some problem with it .. i was hopeing i could get the executables and use them :D
[12:09] <Sly> you will see no perfromance loss or any other loss from running that kernal, upgrading your kernal is not only risky and will have problems arise , but is also not needed
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Dejavu: a script is a text file :)
[12:09] <ramin> HELP
[12:09] <Dejavu> thoreauputic:   o .... know any site frm where i can download installers for games e.g. ut2003 ?
[12:10] <zcat[1] > you guys are no fun!
[12:10] <ramin> why won "sudo apt-get install xmms" work
[12:10] <ilba7r> ramin !info repos
[12:10] <ramin> !info repos
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Dejavu: nope - did you ty running that file as I said above?
[12:10] <ramin> Package 'repos' does not exist
[12:10] <ramin> haha
[12:10] <Dejavu> thoreauputic:   o yeah .. it works :) .. thanks !!
[12:10] <ramin> :)
[12:10] <ramin> !info xxms
[12:10] <Ng> ramin: do you have all the apt repositories configured?
[12:10] <ilba7r> where can ifind documantation on the latest kernel update?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Dejavu: no worries :)
[12:11] <ilba7r> !extra repositories
[12:11] <ubotu> ilba7r: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:11] <ramin> Ng: u are correcy
[12:11] <ramin> how do i configure them=?
[12:11] <deFrysk> !xmms
[12:11] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, deFrysk
[12:11] <kevor> is there a visual screen session? like commandlike screen but then for X apps?
[12:11] <ramin> !xmms
[12:11] <Pac> !ftp
[12:11] <ubotu> Pac: I give up, what is it?
[12:11] <Ng> ramin: the file /etc/apt/sources/list or with the synaptic package manager
[12:12] <Ng> ramin: but xxmms is in the main ones, so unless you've changed something it ought to work, perhaps you could paste the error you get into pastebin.com?
[12:12] <ramin> ok, but what reposteries shall i addto install XMMS
[12:12] <thoreauputic> ramin: universe
[12:12] <ramin> no, i know it isnt. ive installed it before
[12:12] <Sly> somone go get my hair cut for me =\
[12:12] <ilba7r> pac !vsftpd
[12:12] <twilight> hello. I've a problem with ACPI. Now in console the system stops before the login: "Starting Advanced Configuration and Power Interface daemon", and when i try to shutdown or reboot, the system doesn't nothing, it stops to the same message, but with "Stopping" unless "Starting"..any ideas?
[12:12] <ramin> and i had toadd some repos
[12:12] <Ng> Filename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:13] <thoreauputic> !info xmms
[12:13] <Ng> no, it really is in main :)
[12:13] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1917 kB, Installed size: 5988 kB
[12:13] <thoreauputic> sorry...
[12:13] <Ng> ramin: my /etc/apt/sources.list file looks like this: http://www.pointlessrubbish.net/sources.list
[12:13] <ompaul> so much fsck, so many blocks :)
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Ng: I'm surprised an mp3 player is in main ;)
[12:13] <ramin> ok, i will take alook
[12:13] <ilba7r> lol thoreuptic you are the only one who can talk some sence to ubotu ;)
[12:14] <twilight> i've looking for error messages in /var/log/syslog, messages and acpid but i've not found errors...or i believe it..
[12:14] <Ng> thoreauputic: the mp3 plugin isn't ;)
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Ng: ah, I see !
[12:14] <ramin> Ng: howdo i enter the sources list from terminal?
[12:15] <snorks> how do i get needed codecs for movieplaying?
[12:15] <Sly> ramin sudo gedit/nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:15] <Ng> ramin: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:15] <zcat[1] > snorks: apt-get install w32codecs
[12:15] <thoreauputic> ilba7r:  /msg ubotu help    ;)
[12:16] <ilba7r> thoreauputic he wil not listen to me he hate me ;)
[12:16] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: I bet you aren't registered, right?
[12:16] <wickedpuppy> how can a bot hate you ?
[12:16] <LinuxDolt> well, that was funky.  linux froze up on me... O.o
[12:17] <ilba7r> thoreauputic you mean with passwd ya i am registered if that what you mean
[12:17] <LinuxDolt> i couldn't even CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE from my X session
[12:17] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: umm - /whois is says not
[12:17] <ilba7r> i did not identify yet
[12:17] <ilba7r> sometimes i skip that
[12:18] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: that's why ubotu hates you ;-)
[12:18] <ilba7r> lol i just identified my self
[12:18] <ilba7r> thanx thoreauputic
[12:18] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:19] <MorphDK> Hey.. How do I make Qt apps look nicer in Gnome?
[12:19] <Zaphod> me again
[12:19] <Zaphod> I am not hearing any sound. where do I look to fix this?
[12:19] <Zaphod> !sound
[12:19] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Zaphod: plug in your speakers ;)
[12:20] <MorphDK> !qt
[12:20] <ubotu> No idea, MorphDK
[12:20] <MorphDK> :)
[12:20] <Zaphod> hehehehe.. they are plugged in.. thanks though..
[12:20] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:21] <UbUnTuThingy> hi can someone help me with an LPR setup or direct me to a chat room that will be of assistance
[12:21] <Pac> #lpr
[12:21] <Pac> :P
[12:22] <LinuxDolt> hm.  doesn't seem any exist ;D
[12:23] <ramin> hm,... does not work isnt it more lite "nano -w /etc/apt/etc etc
[12:23] <ramin> hello????
[12:23] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: are you sure you don't mean "cups"? Is it a printer issue?
[12:23] <UbUnTuThingy> yeh
[12:23] <LinuxDolt> trying to share it over the samba network?
[12:23] <arphetic> mmm
[12:23] <UbUnTuThingy> well i have a printer setup using cups it works fine
[12:24] <UbUnTuThingy> yes LinuxDolt
[12:24] <bimberi> ramin: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <UbUnTuThingy> and CUPS is being a pain coz samba looks for drivers and my system cant find them
[12:25] <yonil> Where's the file that i need to edit in order to add aliases ?
[12:25] <LinuxDolt> have fun.  hehe, actually, here: http://www.petersblog.org/node/726 and here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=1500&fileID=1438
[12:26] <thoreauputic> yonil:  .bashrc in your home dir
[12:26] <thoreauputic> ~/.bashrc
[12:26] <LinuxDolt> it was driving me up the wall for a while too UbUnTuThingy
[12:26] <yonil> thoreauputic, thanks
[12:26] <ramin> hello
[12:26] <LinuxDolt> the first are instructions for how to correctly configure your smb.conf, and the second are the drivers to install on each windows box
[12:26] <UbUnTuThingy> yeh ive only had linux going for around a month and im learning bits here and there
[12:27] <ramin> hoow do i mount ntfs drives?
[12:27] <flodine> is breezy still not good to load?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[12:27] <ubotu> well, mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[12:27] <Dejavu> does anyone use Wine to play Games here ?
[12:28] <arphetic> !ipchains
[12:28] <ubotu> arphetic: Not a clue
[12:28] <arphetic> !ipchain
[12:28] <ubotu> arphetic: Not a clue
[12:28] <arphetic> !help
[12:28] <arphetic> Anyone knows if IPChains is possible for Ubuntu?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> arphetic: that's help for using the bot ;)
[12:28] <LinuxDolt> Dejavu: i'm not only using wine to play a certain game, i'm a closed pre-beta tester for the specific reason that i use wine
[12:28] <arphetic> thoreauputic: I know i was checking if there was some similar command ;)
[12:28] <thoreauputic> arphetic: iptables, not chains (newer version of the same thing)
[12:29] <thoreauputic> !list
[12:29] <ubotu> it has been said that list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:29] <thoreauputic> arphetic: ^^
[12:29] <UbUnTuThingy> that winmac fstab file is excellent :D
[12:29] <fluffybunny_> how can I set XMMS as my default media player?
[12:30] <arphetic> !iptables
[12:30] <ubotu> arphetic: Wish i knew
[12:30] <arphetic> and what is the path to that?
[12:30] <Ih8Gates> hello
[12:30] <Ih8Gates> I have lost everything to gates
[12:30] <thoreauputic> arphetic: he doesn't know iptables, clearly
[12:30] <arphetic> /sbin/iptables
[12:30] <arphetic> ?
[12:30] <kevor> fstab is ur friend!
[12:30] <Ih8Gates> his damned OS lost all of my data
[12:30] <Ih8Gates> ALL OF IT
[12:30] <kevor> right? :P
[12:30] <Dejavu> does anyone use Wine to play Games here ?
[12:30] <Ih8Gates> I need a new OS
[12:30] <kevor> Dejavu, use cedega
[12:30] <arphetic> thoreauputic: /sbin/iptables ?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> arphetic: what do you want to do with iptables?
[12:30] <Ih8Gates> a true replacement for Windows
[12:31] <Ih8Gates> is there suck a disto?
[12:31] <LinuxDolt> i play a game with wine, as i already said.
[12:31] <arphetic> Ipchains was not found on your system. If you are sure it is installed,
[12:31] <arphetic> please enter the full path below.
[12:31] <arphetic> Full path to ipchains:
[12:31] <Sly> im just installing office with crossover office, pretty good and gta vice city works great with cedega.............
[12:31] <thoreauputic> arphetic: a simple front-end for iptables is "firestarter"
[12:31] <arphetic> ?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> arphetic: what are you installing?
[12:31] <Dejavu> kevor: is there way to get it or another software without paying for it ? :D
[12:31] <arphetic> PMfirewall
[12:32] <LinuxDolt> i'm a closed pre-beta tester for a specific game because i run it in wine. :)
[12:32] <Sly> Dejavu , cedega has a cvs version
[12:32] <thoreauputic> arphetic: ipchains was a kernel 2.2 thing - itsin't used any more
[12:32] <arphetic> thoreauputic: PMFirewall www.pmfirewall.com i thought
[12:32] <arphetic> whats full path to tables then
[12:32] <Sly> just pay the damn 5$ a month for cdega. or im sure tere are other ways :)
[12:32] <Ng> arphetic: /sbin/iptables
[12:32] <thoreauputic> arphetic: if you just need an easy firewall, install firestarter
[12:33] <arphetic> /lib/iptables
[12:33] <arphetic> ah ok
[12:33] <UbUnTuThingy> thanx LinuxDolt :D
[12:33] <LinuxDolt> i hate cedega.  i hate everything cedega claims to be
[12:33] <Sly> LinuxDolt............. but it works
[12:33] <kevor> what do they claim to be that you hate?
[12:33] <UbUnTuThingy> ubotu thanx to you too
[12:33] <ubotu> de rien, UbUnTuThingy
[12:33] <Ng> Sly: some people have a serious philosophical issue with wine ;)
[12:34] <Dejavu> Sly: where can i find that ?
[12:34] <Ng> Sly: some arguments run that it's hurting linux, not helping it. personally I think that's nonsense, but that's just my opinion ;)
[12:34] <Dejavu> LinuxDolt: any success with a game on Wine ?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:34] <Sly> i can see that and i do myself ................ but people have needs
[12:34] <arphetic> i got it installed now
[12:35] <LinuxDolt> Dejavu: this particular game is running great in wine, but it's not directx, it's opengl
[12:35] <bimberi> thoreauputic: :)
[12:35] <pef> hello
[12:35] <Dejavu> LinuxDolt: i just ran doom3 with it and it gave me an error .. i currently am testing wc3 .. seems to be installing smothly
[12:35] <arphetic> IxbH8og4c - :e8.Lw4%Sjaho - =jx
[12:35] <arphetic> mmm
[12:35] <arphetic> still weard signs
[12:35] <Dejavu> LinuxDolt: which particular game ?
[12:35] <Sly> gosh, you wont be able to run doom3 in standard wine ?
[12:35] <LinuxDolt> Dejavu: it's not out yet ;)
[12:36] <bimberi> bottle shop ?
[12:36] <bimberi> :)
[12:36] <Dejavu> LinuxDolt:  then how about ..what kinda game is it ? :D
[12:36] <thor|gone> bimberi: nah - just the corner grocer ;)
[12:36] <LinuxDolt> Dejavu: it's an MMORPG
[12:37] <Dejavu> LinuxDolt:   multi player online role playing ?
[12:37] <icewt> Dejavu, err.. you are trying to run doom3 with wine even though there's a native version for linux?
[12:37] <LinuxDolt> icewt: ... why didn't i catch on to that?
[12:38] <LinuxDolt> Dejavu: indeed... why AREN'T you installing the native linux version?
[12:38] <UbUnTuThingy> can someone recommend to me some DVD or CD burning software
[12:38] <Dejavu> icewt: unfortunatly  i dont have a good serial no to get it activated :S .. i did installed with the native installer tough
[12:39] <azriel0184> UbUnTuThingy, xcdroast
[12:39] <Dejavu> LinuxDolt:   for wc3 ?
[12:39] <bimberi> UbUnTuThingy: nautilus (the file manager) will burn data cd/dvds...
[12:39] <bimberi> UbUnTuThingy: otherwise there's gnomebaker, graveman, k3b
[12:40] <UbUnTuThingy> so nautilus only burns data, not ISO or audio
[12:40] <Ih8Gates> ok this is a silly question to ask in a place like this, but I am seriously asking for objectivity or as close as you can get.  I am a life long Windows user who is tired of XP's BS and DRM Crap.  Is Ubuntu as it is now, a truly viable replacement for XP, I need it for e-mail, word processing, and some light gaming
[12:40] <UbUnTuThingy> im having a lot of trouble with gnomebaker and graveman
[12:40] <bimberi> UbUnTuThingy: not audio, unsure about isos
[12:41] <UbUnTuThingy> and a lot of programs i get thru synaptic, when they install things dont appear in the menus
[12:41] <clem_yeats> Ih8Gates: it's a silly question :))
[12:41] <mjr> Ih8Gates, given those needs, yes, I would say so, if "light gaming" is satisfied by the games readily available for Linux
[12:41] <UbUnTuThingy> ok
[12:41] <UbUnTuThingy> indeed a silly question
[12:41] <clem_yeats> Ih8Gates: internet and email are better under Ubuntu than XP
[12:42] <clem_yeats> Ih8Gates: gaming is much better with XP
[12:42] <Ih8Gates> light gaming, all I play is Americas Army
[12:42] <Ih8Gates> and there is a Linux version
[12:42] <mjr> Ih8Gates, if, however, your definition of "light" includes being able to run every new Windows game, them XP is better for you :)
[12:42] <Dejavu> icewt: anyway  i can get around the serial ? i mean like a crack ?
[12:42] <clem_yeats> Ih8Gates: word processing and all... Ubuntu use Open office, which also work i XP, so you can have an idea before you actually install Ubuntu. Just download OpenOffice and give it a try.
[12:42] <mjr> okay then, go for it
[12:42] <UbUnTuThingy> the internet hasnt got so many protocols and headers on Linux
[12:43] <bimberi> UbUnTuThingy: yes, not all programs create menu entries,  when this happens you can create one using...
[12:43] <bimberi> !smeg
[12:43] <ubotu> I guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[12:43] <mjr> oh, also, you might want to double-check that your hardware is properly supported
[12:44] <UbUnTuThingy> oh ok thanks :)
[12:44] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:44] <UbUnTuThingy> like i install things and nothing seems to appear lol
[12:45] <joee> how do I clean up everything with apt-get remove?
[12:45] <icewt> Dejavu, i don't know, i don't have doom3
[12:45] <UbUnTuThingy> but it does in my directories but im not used to the directory structures yet to trundle around and mess something up lol
[12:46] <bimberi> UbUnTuThingy: you can always look at the properties of installed packages in Synaptic to see what files were installed
[12:46] <Dejavu> icewt: thanks anyway :)
[12:46] <UbUnTuThingy> all the questions i got in my head lol, i got another one
[12:46] <UbUnTuThingy> yeh
[12:47] <UbUnTuThingy> ill look into it
[12:47] <UbUnTuThingy> is there a way to make an image of my hard drive to place on a new hard drive?
[12:51] <UbUnTuThingy> is there a way to make an image of my hard drive to place on a new hard drive?
[12:51] <Ng> UbUnTuThingy: are they going to be exactly the same size?
[12:54] <UbUnTuThingy> no, i am upgrading from a 40gb to a 160gb
[12:54] <MacQuack> hi all
[12:54] <UbUnTuThingy> im aware that ill need to recreate the partition table
[12:54] <UbUnTuThingy> hi MacQuack
[12:54] <Ng> UbUnTuThingy: if you can put the new drive in alongside the old one you can use rsync to transfer all the data
[12:55] <snorks> I cannot access my other computer. I have installed samba and smbfs, and Places -> Network servers finds the computer, and I have shared a folder, but I cannot see it
[12:55] <UbUnTuThingy> oh ok
[12:55] <UbUnTuThingy> is rsync installed by default or is it an extra i need to find on synaptic
[12:56] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: I think you have to install rsync
[12:56] <UbUnTuThingy> oh ok cool
[12:57] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: but it's on the CD
[12:57] <UbUnTuThingy> just hope its not so damn hard as muckin round with perl and python scripts
[12:57] <thoreauputic> acording to apt-cache policy rsync
[12:57] <UbUnTuThingy> oh ok
[12:58] <MacQuack> i'm downloading ubuntu 5.04 right now. hope i will like this one ;)
[12:58] <bimberi> UbUnTuThingy: just checked and ubuntu-base depends on rsync - so it's part of even a basic install
[12:58] <ttj> Is there a way to install ubuntu when you only have a pair of SATA drives that debian-installer won't detect?
[12:59] <UbUnTuThingy> does anyone know of a mini linux distro that can manage parallel and usb printers and just primarily act as a print server
[12:59] <thoreauputic> bimberi: ah, interesting - I thought I had to install it...
[12:59] <Sly> ng still abhout ?
[12:59] <Ng> yep
[12:59] <MacQuack> UbUnTuThingy - can't u use Live CD?
[01:00] <MacQuack> i.e. Knoppix
[01:00] <UbUnTuThingy> why the Live CD?
[01:00] <MacQuack> cause u don't have to have much disk space
[01:00] <UbUnTuThingy> i want a permanent solution coz i dont want windows managing my printers
[01:01] <LinuxDolt> gentoo is as big or small as you want.  and ubuntu really isn't that big
[01:01] <MacQuack> maybe Damn Small Linux?
[01:01] <Chousuke> Debian.
[01:01] <Chousuke> :P
[01:01] <clem_yeats> slack...
[01:01] <MacQuack> everyone gives a different distro...
[01:01] <clem_yeats> maybe distrowatch.org would help
[01:02] <MacQuack> hackin9!
[01:02] <UbUnTuThingy> yeah
[01:02] <thoreauputic> iggsdrasil!
[01:02] <UbUnTuThingy> ok
[01:02] <LinuxDolt> you'll find that almost ANY distro of linux is smaller than Windows
[01:02] <surfdue> !amp
[01:02] <MacQuack> 31337!
[01:02] <ubotu> surfdue: No idea
[01:02] <UbUnTuThingy> coz i was looking at linuxrouter or something and that died a few years ago
[01:02] <Chousuke> A bare debian with CUPS would probably be about 100MB :P
[01:03] <LinuxDolt> so if your size comparison is against windows, you could probably use Mandriva and it'd still be smaller
[01:03] <Chousuke> LinuxDolt: And mandriva would have a lot more features out-of-the-box too :P
[01:03] <UbUnTuThingy> well i could prolly use it as a file server too, but at the moment just a print server
[01:03] <clem_yeats> and some of these features would actually work ! :)
[01:04] <clem_yeats> sorry, I couldn't resist..
[01:04] <LinuxDolt> Mandriva is a BAD BAD distro though.  fat.  very fat.
[01:04] <UbUnTuThingy> ok
[01:04] <ekimus> mandriva has the slowest boot up imho. and that's because it starts every fu***** known server in the universe by default
[01:05] <MacQuack> lol
[01:05] <UbUnTuThingy> lol
[01:05] <ekimus> or should i say multiverse to use ubuntu terms :)
[01:05] <UbUnTuThingy> dont want that then
[01:05] <MacQuack> or reverse to use windoze terms
[01:05] <c3ltic> hi
[01:05] <MacQuack> hi
[01:06] <c3ltic> can anyone tell me... does ubuntu allow PPPoE connection?
[01:06] <MacQuack> yup
[01:06] <MacQuack> read the documentation
[01:06] <UbUnTuThingy> should do
[01:06] <c3ltic> already did... but nothing there
[01:06] <UbUnTuThingy> but dont ask me lol
[01:06] <jaqkar> hi guys
[01:06] <MacQuack> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[01:07] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[01:07] <c3ltic> thanks
[01:07] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[01:07] <Seveas> ^-- MacQuack
[01:07] <jaqkar> i want to setup a gateway on my ubuntu box, and on the ubuntu box it should use a proxy for all outgoing traffic
[01:07] <MacQuack> methinks that ya hav bad grammer :P
[01:08] <kemik> jaqkar:  a bit of work, but none too hard :)
[01:08] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: be that as it may, i actually found some help in ubuntuguide.org to get me on my way to getting my printer to work
[01:09] <UbUnTuThingy> i hate dial up
[01:09] <jaqkar> kemik: great, can you guide me
[01:09] <MacQuack> the slooooooowest connection ever
[01:09] <MacQuack> 56 k modems should burn in hell
[01:09] <LinuxDolt> didn't solve it for me, but whatever
[01:09] <kemik> jaqkar: what's your setup? two ethernets ?
[01:09] <Sly> MacQuack say that to people living out in the country side ?
[01:10] <UbUnTuThingy> when i relocate, ill be getting broadband thank fuck
[01:10] <kemik> (NICs maybe i should say)
[01:10] <Belutz> if i want to install LDAP server... what package already available in the repos ?
[01:10] <thoreauputic> MacQuack: ach, laddie, I remember when 56k was lightning fast!
[01:10] <jaqkar> kemik: router and 2 boxes - win and ubuntu
[01:10] <MacQuack> i don't say no to dial-ups, i say they suck, but is always better to have 56k connection than don't have any
[01:10] <UbUnTuThingy> 56k is shit lol
[01:11] <kemik> so it's like this: INTERNET -> UBUNTU ->ROUTER -> WINDOWS?
[01:11] <kemik> or INTERNET->ROUTER->_> WIN/UBUNTU ?
[01:11] <MacQuack> INTERNET >_< CRASH
[01:11] <bimberi> lol
[01:11] <jaqkar> kemik: internet > router > switch > win/ubuntu
[01:11] <UbUnTuThingy> yeh true but we only got it coz in Australia, if ur in a rural area u got hardly a chance to get broadband
[01:12] <bimberi> luxury
[01:12] <Belutz> !ldap
[01:12] <ubotu> Belutz: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> REDIRECT <<>> somewhere << maybe this way ----> or <------ ??
[01:12] <kemik> jaqkar:  awh. so what's the gateway adress ?
[01:12] <jaqkar> i need to explain this though because u might ask then why the need for the ubuntu gateway..
[01:12] <UbUnTuThingy> im moving into the city a bit so my telco actually cares a bit more lol
[01:13] <kemik> thoreauputic --> /dev/null
[01:13] <LinuxDolt> heh.  more like: Internet -> Modem -> router -> instable -> Windows Network w/ Ubuntu -> CRASH!
[01:13] <Sly> Ubuntuthingy your moving purely to live in boundaries or bb ?
[01:13] <kemik> jaqkar:  indeed, i'm thinking there would be no need for a gateway on that ubuntu box :)
[01:13] <MacQuack> INTERNET > M$ WINODZE > OMG <> WHAT > DA >F***??? <><><><><<<<<>>> >_< ^^ (>")>
[01:13] <thoreauputic> kemik: cat /dev/urandom > thoreauputic
[01:13] <jdeveloper> hi to everybody
[01:13] <MacQuack> hi
[01:14] <kemik> echo "all yuor base are belong to us" >> thoreauputic
[01:14] <jaqkar> kemik: exactly, but because of our shit isp i want all the traffic from the win box to hit the isp proxy
[01:14] <thoreauputic> OMG!! I have been pwned!
[01:14] <kemik> someone set us up the bomb
[01:14] <jdeveloper> can someone give me the deb source for the security updates from hoary?
[01:14] <jdeveloper> to put in the sources.lis
[01:14] <jdeveloper> to put in the sources.list
[01:14] <jaqkar> kemik: so instead of running a squid proxy on win i want to use ubuntu
[01:14] <UbUnTuThingy> no lol id prolly just apply for a government scheme to get high speed satellite or get them to actually come out and fix up the exchange
[01:15] <LinuxDolt> nono, kemik, we want to REPLACE his current contents, so it's echo "all your base are belong to us" > thoreauputic
[01:15] <MacQuack> echo "drink pepsi" >> thoreapeutic
[01:15] <bina> is there a way to change the resolution that KDM login manager uses?
[01:15] <jaqkar> kemik: and when i say traffic i mean all traffic not http only
[01:15] <kemik> oh my, i appended it :(
[01:15] <pitti> jdeveloper: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main universe
[01:15] <azriel0184> cat thoreauputic > /dev/dsp
[01:15] <jdeveloper> thanks pitti
[01:15] <thoreauputic> azriel0184: no, that would be deafening ;)
[01:16] <kemik> jaqkar:  awh.. thats a bit more advanced than what i was thinking...
[01:16] <azriel0184> thoreauputic, and almost as inteligible as /dev/random
[01:16] <MacQuack> and what if we don't want to replace contents, but only crash his PC??? echo run "Windoze" >thoreapeutic ??? ... whoops
[01:16] <bimberi> jdeveloper: you might want to add " restricted multiverse" to the end of that
[01:16] <Arbiter-mc> hi all
[01:16] <kemik> jaqkar:  im sorry, but i dont have the time to look into that.. gotta study for exam :|
[01:16] <jaqkar> kemik: so i thought i will set my gateway ip to the ubuntu box so all traffic goes there and ubuntu sends it to the proxy of isp
[01:16] <LinuxDolt> cat /dev/random > thoreauputic
[01:16] <Arbiter-mc> ubuntu developers there?
[01:17] <MacQuack> no, only nuts
[01:17] <arphetic> :)
[01:17] <Arbiter-mc> hey, i'm new to ubuntu ;)
[01:17] <arphetic> works finally
[01:17] <LinuxDolt> grats to you
[01:17] <LinuxDolt> Now Playing: M-Flo - Shine In My Life
[01:17] <arphetic> I dont think the developers ever get hehre
[01:17] <arphetic> here
[01:17] <jaqkar> kemik: it should be standard gateway and the ubuntu just sends everything to the isp proxy
[01:17] <LinuxDolt> mines better though
[01:17] <Arbiter-mc> and i've made some cool things... ;)
[01:18] <LinuxDolt> as in the song
[01:18] <MacQuack> Now Playing: Slipknot - Wait and Bleed slowed down by slow computer -OMG!!!
[01:18] <twibbler> has anybody setup freeciv ?....
[01:18] <arphetic> But mine one is self made
[01:18] <kemik> jaqkar:  setting up the ubuntu box as a gateway/NATer shouldnt be a problem.. but sending all traffic to the proxy is something i've never done
[01:18] <thoreauputic> for each in nick ; do lart $nick ; done
[01:19] <kevor> is there a way to show a terminal in the lower right corner like on FreeBSD?
[01:19] <Arbiter-mc> i've made some colored ubuntu initscripts
[01:19] <jaqkar> kemik: my ubuntu is currently setup to send all to proxy
[01:19] <bimberi> thoreauputic: you'll need "ubotu: " at the front :P
[01:19] <MacQuack> for each fast-food in tha city ; do eat $city ; BURP
[01:19] <thoreauputic> ah syntax error!
[01:20] <snorks> is there any interfaced prog for perl/python programming?
[01:20] <jaqkar> kemik: i dont know where it stores this info because i did it from the gnome - system tools
[01:20] <snorks> !perl
[01:20] <ubotu> No idea, snorks
[01:21] <jaqkar> kemik: if you can tell me how to set it up as a standard gateway/NATer i will try to figure the proxy part
[01:21] <arphetic>  rofl
[01:22] <deufo> hi does ubuntu use autofs by default?
[01:22] <arphetic>  <-selflol ignore me
[01:22] <UbUnTuThingy> would there be a reason why when i dial up the internet, i get as far as authentication, it fails, but i have the correct login info??
[01:23] <jdeveloper> can someone explain this errors when i make apt-get update
[01:23] <thoreauputic> bimberi: actually should have been " for each in nick ; do lart $each ; done "  <--- but no-one picked up the error *grin*
[01:23] <arphetic> Anyone knows why XMMS doesnt support pls files?
[01:23] <jdeveloper> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:23] <jdeveloper> Reading package lists... Done
[01:23] <jdeveloper> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:23] <jdeveloper> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:23] <jdeveloper> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:23] <kemik> jaqkar:  either read about IPTABLES and ip_masq, or use firestarter / quicktables or another frontend
[01:23] <Seveas> jdeveloper, please don't paste
[01:23] <jdeveloper> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:23] <arphetic> err
[01:23] <jdeveloper> ok
[01:23] <bimberi> thoreauputic: Of course - D'Oh!
[01:23] <thoreauputic> !lart jdeveloper
[01:23] <kemik> jaqkar:  quicktables is a nice .sh script that will let you setup NAT
[01:23] <Seveas> ok it was done
[01:24] <arphetic> jdeveloper: use paste.ubuntulinux.org
[01:24] <Seveas> jdeveloper, apt-get update
[01:24] <Seveas> just like the output says...
[01:24] <UbUnTuThingy> would there be a reason why when i dial up the internet, i get as far as authentication, it fails, but i have the correct login info??
[01:24] <Seveas> arphetic, .nl not .org
[01:24] <MacQuack> food-get pizza doesn't work for me!!! WTF?
[01:24] <kemik> jaqkar:  unfortunately all my selfmade iptables scripts have been scrapped in favour of turtlefirewall (which suck ;) ).. so the exact syntax is unavailable :(
[01:24] <arphetic> w/e
[01:24] <arphetic> Seveas: got experience with XMMS + streams?
[01:25] <MacQuack> w/eeeee
[01:25] <jaqkar> kemik: i will try quicktables
[01:25] <Seveas> arphetic, only with beep and streams
[01:25] <LinuxDolt> funny.  jdeveloper is a funny man
[01:25] <arphetic> To bad
[01:26] <jaqkar> kemik: is it installed or should i dload it?
[01:26] <jaqkar> kemik: apt-get?
[01:26] <UbUnTuThingy> would there be a reason why when i dial up the internet, i get as far as authentication, it fails, but i have the correct login info??
[01:26] <UbUnTuThingy> if anyone is wondering, i have done the stupid thing and ported my internet thru windows via TCP/IP to this system
[01:27] <kemik> jaqkar:  http://qtables.radom.org/ <-- it's actually jsut a bashscript that sets the IPTABLE rules
[01:27] <kemik> jaqkar:  so it's easily modifiable, if you know your way around iptables...
[01:27] <twibbler> snorks:    what do you mean by interface ...
[01:28] <bimberi> Seveas: you could retain the second last of those bans :)
[01:28] <jaqkar> kemit: quicktables: advanced support for transparent http proxying with squid running either on the firewall itself or running on another host
[01:28] <deufo> can somone be so nice and show me a default fstab file?
[01:28] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy:  /join #windows <j/k>
[01:28] <kemik> jaqkar:  would you look at that, they've updated it quite alot since i used it ;)
[01:29] <thoreauputic> deufo: there's really no such thing - it depends on your hardware/ setup
[01:29] <jaqkar> kemit: suppose i need squid then
[01:29] <kemik> jaqkar:  mmh, could verywell be so..
[01:30] <deufo> thoreauputic, anyway to get it to generate it again?
[01:30] <McScruff> does any1 know any software for renameing mp3's like tag and rename for windows
[01:30] <deufo> thoreauputic, i only installed the bare stuff
[01:30] <kemik> McScruff:  easytag ?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> deufo: hmm - never needed to regenerate an fstab... don't know
[01:30] <deufo> thoreauputic, does ubuntu use autofs?
[01:31] <kemik> *gone*
[01:31] <thoreauputic> deufo: no, I don't believe so
[01:31] <deufo> thoreauputic, i'm trying to get my usb flash disk to work, i remember when i did the default installation it mounts by itself
[01:31] <McScruff> ty kermik
[01:32] <Linforcer> >.> can anyone tell me how to install a sshd in Ubuntu
[01:32] <thoreauputic> Linforcer:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> !sshd
[01:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, wickedpuppy
[01:32] <Linforcer> thanks
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> !ssh
[01:32] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"
[01:33] <rive> good morning ubuntu's
[01:33] <arphetic> murnin
[01:33] <jaqkar> kemit: squid through webmin ;)
[01:34] <UbUnTuThingy> can someone let me know how to successfully maintain a PPP connection
[01:34] <NatureTruth> i have a question...i typed in pmidi -l in the terminal and I dont get any client or port, what could be wrong?
[01:35] <clem_yeats> Ubuntuthingy : did you try pppconfig
[01:35] <Seveas> UbUnTuThingy, sudo pppconfig
[01:35] <rive> anyone have a web based web traffic analyzer for apache they like on ubuntu?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> NatureTruth: lack of installed modules (snd_seq or similar )
[01:36] <thoreauputic> NatureTruth: you might need to modprobe some sequencer modules in other words
[01:36] <bimberi> rive: webalizer is OK (i've used it on debian)
[01:37] <soulseeker> yo slt
[01:37] <rive> bimberi: is that in universe?
[01:37] <bimberi> rive: yes
[01:37] <rive> bimberi, rocking, thanks.
[01:38] <xsadikx> hi
[01:38] <bimberi> rive: yvw :)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> NatureTruth: snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq  <-- from my /etc/modules
[01:38] <NatureTruth> thoreauputic: i already did modprobe snd_seq
[01:39] <thoreauputic> NatureTruth: righto - and the others I listed?
[01:39] <Zaphod> he.. I'm back again..
[01:39] <Zaphod> I am having troubles installing wine
[01:39] <xsadikx> i have a problem, i recently installed ubuntu, but whenever i am asked to type the root password in order to run lets say the update manager it just says that the password is wrong.. how can i solve this?
[01:39] <NatureTruth> thoreauputic:  I did lsmod|grep midi...it's there
[01:39] <Zaphod> I cannot add the repository.. please someone help..
[01:40] <thoreauputic> NatureTruth: do you have soundfonts or freepats installed?
[01:40] <Zaphod> anyone?
[01:42] <rive> ok, I've CLEARLY not had enough coffee this morning.  What's the CLI command to install software again?
[01:42] <unreal> Zaphod: your first name wouldn't happen to begin with P would it?
[01:42] <nophix> rive: apt-get ?
[01:42] <bimberi> rive: sudo apt-get install webalizer
[01:42] <bimberi> :)
[01:42] <Zaphod> no.. it doesn't..
[01:43] <xsadikx> can someone help me?
[01:43] <Zaphod> can anyone help me to get wine installed?
[01:43] <bimberi> Zaphod: have you been here...
[01:43] <bimberi> !repos
[01:43] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:43] <twibbler> xsadikx: the answer is how ..
[01:44] <xsadikx> i recently installed ubuntu, but whenever i am asked to type the root password in order to run lets say the update manager it just says that the password is wrong.. how can i solve this?
[01:44] <zerboxx_sleeping> xsadikx: ubuntu uses sudo, not root
[01:44] <Zaphod> I have been here.. why?
[01:44] <bimberi> xsadikx: try your own password
[01:44] <xsadikx> doesnt work either
[01:44] <Zaphod> I have looked in the howto, but it doesn't seem work..
[01:44] <twibbler> xsadikx root is disabled use sudo .....
[01:45] <zerboxx_sleeping> xsadikx: sudo <whatever> doesn't work?
[01:45] <rive> bimber:  oh yeah... sudo... yawn
[01:45] <xsadikx> no no
[01:45] <xsadikx> ok.. you see the update icon?
[01:45] <xsadikx> if i click it, it asks for a password
[01:45] <zerboxx> xsadikx: That should work if you enter your password
[01:46] <twibbler> xsadikx did you input a root password at setup ...
[01:46] <xsadikx> yeah but it doesnt
[01:46] <bimberi> Zaphod: what does "sudo apt-get install wine" (in a terminal) do
[01:46] <bimberi> ?
[01:46] <xsadikx> twibbler, yes
[01:46] <xsadikx> i can su from the terminal
[01:46] <bimberi> rive: More Coffee :)
[01:46] <twibbler> what was it can you remember ...
[01:47] <xsadikx> the password?
[01:47] <UbUnTuThingy> bbl
[01:47] <twibbler> xsadikx  yes the password but dont tell me ... just a though you know its case sensitive so if you type Demo it is not the same as demo ..
[01:48] <xsadikx> lol
[01:48] <[DaRk] > hi
[01:48] <sidahmed> hi
[01:48] <[DaRk] > i have a problem with audio
[01:48] <xsadikx> im not that lame
[01:48] <rive> never EVER tell your PASSWORD.
[01:48] <[DaRk] > i have 2 audio cards
[01:48] <[DaRk] > and when i play a sound
[01:48] <twibbler> you just never know these days with windows none techies ......
[01:48] <twibbler> playing with linux ...
[01:48] <[DaRk] > the sound "exit" from the integrated card
[01:49] <[DaRk] > not from sb live! card...
[01:49] <xsadikx> like.. if i try to run the gdm greeter from the menu
[01:49] <[DaRk] > how i can select the default card ?
[01:49] <xsadikx> it asks for my password
[01:49] <xsadikx> i type my pass but it doesnt work..
[01:49] <[DaRk] > ehm...now i0m trying frozen bubble and the sound works !
[01:49] <xsadikx> if i su on the term and then run gdm  from the term it works
[01:50] <twibbler> hum ........................... so neither does sudo gdm ....
[01:50] <[DaRk] > but normally it don't works...how  ???? :D
[01:50] <xsadikx> well
[01:50] <azriel0184> [DaRk] , disable the onboard sound car din your bios.
[01:50] <xsadikx> if i use sudo it asks me for my password
[01:50] <twibbler> if you can su can you su -
[01:51] <xsadikx> and i type my password and it says its wrong
[01:51] <darksatanic> xsadikx: sudo generally wants _your_ password, not the root one.
[01:51] <bimberi> xsadikx: are you using the account that you created during the install?
[01:51] <xsadikx> bimberi, yes
[01:51] <[DaRk] > azriel0184, uhm....ok
[01:51] <[DaRk] > it's an idea....is it possible to use both ?
[01:51] <xsadikx> mm
[01:52] <xsadikx> how do i add myself to the sudoers list?
[01:52] <twibbler> xsadikx: if you can su why not run passwd and change your root password ...
[01:52] <azriel0184> do you need to use both? cos it will save you a hell of a lot of trouble to just disable it if you dont plan on using it
[01:52] <bimberi> xsadikx: "visudo" (as root)
[01:52] <xsadikx> where do i add myself?
[01:53] <rive> where do I configure webalizer or point me to a install wiki... just got it from universe
[01:53] <[DaRk] > uhm....ok
[01:53] <[DaRk] > :)
[01:53] <azriel0184> [DaRk] , i have the same setup, trust me on this one :)
[01:53] <bimberi> xsadikx: mine includes this line: "dave    ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[01:54] <bimberi> xsadikx: ... at the end
[01:54] <xsadikx> ok
[01:54] <ubuntu_> anyone here interested in working on my network? pvt me
[01:54] <Digital_Warrior0> Can any one answer my question
[01:54] <xsadikx> ok
[01:54] <xsadikx> its working now
[01:55] <Digital_Warrior0> any one know why my routing tables are in ipv6 not 4 but my ip is ipv4
[01:56] <xsadikx> thanks
[01:56] <xsadikx> bye**
[01:57] <Digital_Warrior0> any one know how to uninstall ipv6 and install ipv4
[01:57] <twibbler> Digital ... use synatic ...
[01:58] <Nameeater> how can I play aac shout cast streams?
[01:58] <rive> where are configuration files stored?
[01:58] <rive> nevermind.... etc
[01:59] <Digital_Warrior0> what package hold ipv4 and witch one holds ipv6
[01:59] <rive> I need a new brain.
[02:00] <twibbler> Digital try installing updating iptables ...
[02:01] <jedipottsy> yo
[02:01] <jedipottsy> can someone help with a WineX issue? how do i run something windowed?
[02:02] <jedipottsy> #cedega
[02:03] <twibbler> jpidpottsy: follow a script file I created to run ultraedit
[02:03] <twibbler> [Desktop Entry] 
[02:03] <twibbler> Encoding=UTF-8
[02:03] <twibbler> Version=1.0
[02:03] <twibbler> Type=Application
[02:03] <twibbler> Exec=wine "c:\\program files\\IDM Computer Solutions\\UltraEdit-32\\uedit32.exe"TryExec=
[02:03] <twibbler> Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/seahorse.png
[02:03] <twibbler> X-GNOME-DocPath=
[02:03] <twibbler> Terminal=false
[02:03] <twibbler> Name[en_GB] =Uedit
[02:03] <twibbler> GenericName[en_GB] =
[02:03] <twibbler> Comment[en_GB] =
[02:04] <deleric> hi all ;)
[02:04] <rive> aaaaaaaah....  I got into recording mode in 'vi' and i can't get out.... help!!!
[02:05] <jedipottsy> thnx
[02:05] <twibbler> press esc a lot ...
[02:05] <rive> I did that
[02:05] <rive> it's recording the esc
[02:05] <rive> and the ctr c
[02:05] <rive> dear god.
[02:05] <rive> make it stop
[02:05] <Seveas> :q
[02:05] <Seveas> :q
[02:06] <rive> ah....ctr-z got me out
[02:06] <Seveas> hehe
[02:06] <rive> now I will kill the job
[02:06] <Seveas> now it's suspended :)
[02:07] <rive> Killed!!!  +1000 XP for killing vi.
[02:07] <poningru> sorry you only get NT
[02:08] <cihad> slm
[02:09] <cihad> millet
[02:09] <cihad> kise yokmu?
[02:09] <Seveas> cihad, please stick to english in here
[02:09] <Seveas> touchy.. :)
[02:10] <thoreauputic> what language was that??
[02:10] <anacron> english is the only language you can stick in
[02:11] <anacron> :D
[02:11] <rizla> hello folks
[02:12] <anacron> that's all folks
[02:13] <catfox> anyone have screenshots of breezy's bootsplash?
[02:13] <clem_yeats> hi rizla
[02:14] <laxise> hi there
[02:14] <ZincX> ibglib-2.0.so  -Wl,-E -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,-soname -Wl,perl.so -o .libs/perl.so
[02:14] <ZincX> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[02:14] <ZincX> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:14] <ZincX> make[4] : *** [perl.la]  Error 1
[02:14] <ZincX> make[4] : Leaving directory `/home/sasquach/xchat-2.4.4/plugins/perl'
[02:14] <ZincX> how come that is happenin ?
[02:14] <rizla> how can i know what's the installation dir of a specific program?
[02:14] <laxise> log?
[02:14] <catfox> ZincX, looks like you dont have perl-dev installed
[02:15] <clem_yeats> rizla : is the prog in your path ?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> rizla:  dpkg -L <packagename>
[02:15] <thoreauputic> rizla: there's no specific installation dir in linux
[02:15] <kemik> ZincX:  try getting libperl-dev or such
[02:15] <clem_yeats> thoreauputic : isn't /opt for that ?
[02:15] <rizla> yes, i know, thoreauputic
[02:16] <rizla> thanx
[02:16] <ZincX> hmm
[02:16] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: only for 3rd part apps etc
[02:16] <thoreauputic> * third party apps
[02:16] <francesco> ciao
[02:16] <hmrocha> some packages tell me that they're not authenticated
[02:17] <hmrocha> how can i change this?
[02:18] <Digital_Warrior0> where are the network config files located
[02:18] <thoreauputic> /etc/network/interfaces , mostly
[02:19] <Digital_Warrior0> thanks
[02:19] <Digital_Warrior0> trying to set up ip forwarding
[02:19] <Digital_Warrior0> through ab ipv4 alias
[02:20] <thoreauputic> there's a one-liner for ip forwarding , but I can never remember it :(
[02:21] <Digital_Warrior0> oh thanks
[02:21] <Digital_Warrior0> what is the line for an ip alias
[02:22] <nightswim> ip addr a yourip dev eth0
[02:22] <thoreauputic> "echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"  <--- was what I was trying to remember
[02:22] <kemik> echo "2" > thomerz
[02:22] <kemik> arfgh
[02:23] <kemik> well, it's getting old anyways :)
[02:23] <thoreauputic> kemik: you called ?  *grin*
[02:23] <Hobbsee> hey all - if i'm installing a beta version of open office 2, do i need to get rid of open office 1.1?  If so, will it affect anything else?
[02:23] <Sly> just a quickie
[02:23] <Sly> anyone ever beat four in a row ?
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> yeah me
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> rm 4inrow
[02:24] <azriel0184> Sly, nope, tried and tried though
[02:24] <kemik> :/
[02:24] <jaqkar> kemik: study!!!
[02:24] <kemik> jaqkar:  mini-breaks !! ;)
[02:24] <Sly> :( lost again
[02:24] <ORiON> so, anyword on the forums coming back up?
[02:25] <jaqkar> kemik: lol
[02:25] <ORiON> or is it just me?
[02:25] <Sly> HrdweBoB , did you cheat ?
[02:25] <Hobbsee> it's not just you ORiON
[02:26] <kemik> *gone again* :(
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ORiON: the whole site seems to have died a horrible death today...
[02:26] <HrdwrBoB> Sly: if you edit the memory of the program while it's operating it's amazing what you can do :D
[02:26] <ORiON> thoreauputic: yikes, that's too bad
[02:26] <blacksky> hi...
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ORiON: I spoke metaphorically....
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ;)
[02:27] <azriel0184> HrdwrBoB, i believe that constitutes cheating.... but your right, it is amazing ;)
[02:27] <Sly> k let me reprase that ....... anyone beat four in a row without cheating ?
[02:27] <ORiON> thoreauputic: oh, I was having images of someone stabbing a server repeatedly with a rusty ice pick.
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> azriel0184: you're but yeah :)
[02:27] <thoreauputic> ORiON: *grin*
[02:28] <thoreauputic> ORiON: nice image ...
[02:28] <Hobbsee> very nice image!
[02:28] <Sly> whos got some nice themes ?
[02:28] <Sly> bored as hell and nothing to do cumtomize time
[02:30] <jaqkar> who knows webmin?
[02:30] <jaqkar> pftt
[02:31] <ubuntu_> ur mom
[02:31] <jaqkar> mean who can help me with access
[02:31] <ubuntu_> ur mom
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ubotu, webmin
[02:31] <ubotu> To use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[02:31] <jaqkar> since ubuntu doesnt have root
[02:31] <jaqkar> awesome thx
[02:31] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: ^^^
[02:32] <ORiON> If there are any people running breezy in here, I'm getting on error on a dist-upgrade about xlibmesa-dri and libgl1-xorg-dri trying to overwrite each other with "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/gamma_dri.so". Any suggestions on a solution?
[02:32] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: @@@
[02:32] <thoreauputic> ?
[02:32] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: :p
[02:33] <thoreauputic>   !!!!
[02:33] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I give up, what is it?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> hahah
[02:33] <ubuntu_>    !!!
[02:33] <ubotu> I heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:33] <ubuntu_> hehe
[02:33] <thoreauputic> !botsnack
[02:33] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[02:33] <bimberi> Hobbsee: i've got both OpenOffices installed and they seem to coexist happily
[02:33] <Hobbsee> ok, thanks
[02:33] <umboto> anyone know why xine doesn't play mkv files correcly? i get video but no audio track, they work on vlc and mplayer fine
[02:34] <bimberi> yw
[02:34] <ejumpz> where to get a good themes for my ubuntu desktop??
[02:34] <linukso> art.gnome.ortg
[02:34] <linukso> arg! .org
[02:34] <umboto> http://www.gnome-look.or
[02:34] <bimberi> !themes
[02:34] <ubotu> it has been said that themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[02:34] <umboto> http://www.gnome-look.org
[02:34] <bimberi> 'nuff said
[02:35] <ejumpz> uh..thanks..
[02:35] <bimberi> overload? :)
[02:35] <james_> I can't get any sound, my speakers are plugged in and turned on, and they were working fine when I had windows installed, how do I troubleshoot?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> ejumpz: well, you asked ;-)
[02:35] <thoreauputic> !sound
[02:35] <ubotu> methinks sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[02:36] <deufo> i peeps, i can't find my /dev/sdb
[02:36] <jedipottsy> hi
[02:36] <jedipottsy> how do i install .tgz files?
[02:36] <umboto> use file roller?
[02:36] <ubuntu_> ./install :P
[02:36] <linukso> jedipottsy: depends... is it an bsd or slackware packag?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> jedipottsy: generally you try not to - what are you installing?
[02:37] <deufo> jedipottsy, just untar it
[02:37] <jedipottsy> inside the tar is a folder called "."
[02:37] <jaqkar> uhmm
[02:37] <ejumpz> today is my 1st experience using ubuntu..and i think it nice..: )
[02:37] <jaqkar> where is all the stuff
[02:37] <umboto> tar -help
[02:37] <jaqkar> in webmin
[02:37] <jedipottsy> then inside that "etc" "opt" "usr"
[02:37] <Hobbsee> ejumpz - same here, it's very nice!
[02:38] <thoreauputic> jedipottsy: erm.. what are you trying to install ?
[02:38] <deufo> untar it in /
[02:38] <jedipottsy> point2play
[02:38] <deufo> tar jzxvf thingy.tgz /
[02:38] <deufo> i think
[02:39] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: you probably need some wevmin modules - apt-cache search webmin
[02:39] <jedipottsy> tar: Conflicting compression options
[02:39] <muffin_> do i have to install directx and windows graphic drivers to play games with wine??
[02:39] <deufo> zxvf then
[02:39] <deufo> i can't really remember the flags
[02:39] <deufo> or maybe its just xvf
[02:39] <jedipottsy> ahh thnx :D
[02:39] <Ng> muffin_: you don't need to install either
[02:40] <Ng> muffin_: but you may need cedega and the game may not work at all
[02:40] <deufo> jedipottsy, u'll find it hard to remove :D
[02:40] <UbUnTuThingy> bak
[02:40] <muffin_> Ng, thx, its just diablo 2
[02:40] <jedipottsy> how do i run the program now?
[02:41] <umboto> protien shakes are good
[02:41] <aadis> hello all
[02:41] <umboto> yumm
[02:41] <Ng> muffin_: http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php?p=diablo2 might help
[02:41] <aadis> ok, i *am* using breezy
[02:41] <aadis> and xbase-clients is empty of all bins. any place to get 'em?
[02:41] <james_> is there anywhere on the Ubuntu web site where I can search a knowledgebase for troubleshooting documents?
[02:41] <jaqkar> thoreauputic>i get a huge list of stuff
[02:42] <HrdwrBoB> aadis: install x-window-system
[02:42] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: yeah, I know
[02:42] <deufo> is ubuntu forum down?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: apt-cache search webmin | grep <what you need>
[02:42] <ejumpz> i need your opinion..what is the best samba browser?
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> ejumpz: nautilus
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> ejumpz: it's all there already
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[02:43] <aadis> HrdwrBoB: do you mean x-window-system-core ?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: or just apt-cache search webmin | less  to browse...
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> aadis: I meant x-window-system, but sure
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> I may have got it wrong
[02:43] <aadis> HrdwrBoB: x-window-system is not there. some package mentions it, but not actually
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> ah
[02:44] <jedipottsy> deufo, w8 it extracted the files, but how do i extract the files to the correct location?
[02:44] <aadis> HrdwrBoB: are you running breezy? can you tell me if xfontsel is actually in x-window-system-core ?
[02:44] <ejumpz> thanks HrdwrBoB
[02:44] <jedipottsy> deufo, its extracted them to my home directory
[02:44] <deufo> jedipottsy, it is in the correct location
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> aadis: no I'm not
[02:44] <aadis> it's getting tedious to use *emacs* font selector to see all X fonts... :(
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> ejumpz: no worries
[02:45] <aadis> ok, i'll get it anyway! thanks :)
[02:45] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: i suck :P
[02:45] <jedipottsy> deufo, i have 3 folders, etc, usr opt in my home directory
[02:45] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: how do i know what i need
[02:45] <thoreauputic> jedipottsy: I don't know the program, but there's usually a README file
[02:45] <Ng> aadis: it's in xbase-clients according to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <deufo> jedipottsy, extract it in /
[02:45] <jedipottsy> k
[02:45] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: well, what do you want to use webmin to do?
[02:46] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: all the default stuff
[02:46] <thoreauputic> ?
[02:46] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: i used to install and it had a bunch of stuff
[02:46] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there ;)
[02:46] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: never had to configure individual modules
[02:47] <aadis> Ng: packages.ubuntu.com is actually out of date... atleast for breezy
[02:47] <Ng> fair enough :)
[02:47] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: touche
[02:47] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: just kidding ;)
[02:47] <jedipottsy> how do i enabled 3d acceleration?
[02:48] <aadis> who here *is* running breezy?
[02:48] <deufo> jedipottsy, ubuntu should have it enabled by default
[02:48] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: i normally get lost
[02:48] <anacron> im going to change my graphicscard today, do i have to do something special to get it work right?
[02:48] <deufo> jedipottsy, do glxgears
[02:48] <jedipottsy> i have the 8.14.13 ati drivers installed
[02:48] <jedipottsy> its not on
[02:48] <clem_yeats> anacron: just avoid ATI
[02:48] <deufo> can someone help me with my sd* issues
[02:48] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: before when i used webmin it had all the modules configured
[02:48] <jaqkar> ati sucks
[02:48] <aadis> deufo: what is the issue?
[02:49] <deufo> aadis, i dun have sd* in /dev
[02:49] <aadis> jaqkar: indeed. breaks hibernate as well...
[02:49] <anacron> clem_yeats: i know
[02:49] <jedipottsy> im only getting 300fps on a 9800pro
[02:49] <anacron> im changing my 6600 to gt model
[02:49] <deufo> aadis, i tried it with acpi=no in grub and it works, but i want acpi
[02:49] <jaqkar> anacron: try getting nvidia
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> deufo: then you don't have theright drivers loaded
[02:49] <xerox> Hi.
[02:49] <jedipottsy> how do i enabled 3d acceleration?
[02:49] <xerox> Is it possible to run arbitrary application fullscreen?
[02:50] <anacron> jaqkar: im buing asus
[02:50] <xerox> E.g. Emacs.
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> !nvidia
[02:50] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[02:50] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, i loaded usb-storage, sd_mod,
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> deufo: it should auto load
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> if it hasn't, something is wrong
[02:50] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, btw, i did a server installation
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> ...
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> why?
[02:50] <deufo> i didn;'t want gnome
[02:50] <deufo> i want xfce
[02:51] <anacron> ...
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> argh well good luck with that
[02:51] <deufo> lol
[02:51] <jedipottsy> deufo, sudo apt-get install xfce
[02:51] <anacron> isn't it easier to install gnome and then install xfce and uninstall just gnome then
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> anacron: correct!
[02:51] <deufo> jedipottsy, u got ati dirver loaded in xorg.conf
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> 10 points :)
[02:51] <jedipottsy> deufo, yeah
[02:51] <deufo> anacron, i tried, but its still more bloated than wat i have currently
[02:52] <deufo> jedipottsy, glxinfo
[02:52] <linukso> xerox: run emacs from gnome terminal, it can run in fullscreen mode
[02:52] <HrdwrBoB> anacron: how big is your hard drive
[02:52] <HrdwrBoB> er
[02:52] <HrdwrBoB> deufo:
[02:52] <jedipottsy> direct rendering: No
[02:52] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, 30 gigs
[02:52] <anacron> HrdwrBoB: hd1 160gb, hd2 120gb hd3 80gb
[02:52] <thesamet> Does anyone else experience locale problems with breezy?
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> deufo: and you can't spare a few hundred mb (tops) for gnome
[02:53] <deufo> thesamet, u mean the gtk one?
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> anacron: :)
[02:53] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, i need space for anime
[02:53] <anacron> HrdwrBoB: me too :D
[02:53] <anacron> amm
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> deufo: badly enough to have a broken system?
[02:53] <anacron> that was no for you
[02:53] <Determinist> lo guys
[02:53] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, roger that
[02:53] <thesamet> I think it does cannot find locale files
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> deufo: I have news for you, hard drives are cheap :)
[02:53] <anacron> HrdwrBoB: i meant to ask why do you wan't to know?
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> VERY cheap
[02:53] <jedipottsy> how do i enable direct renderingf
[02:53] <UbUnTuThingy> question lol i forgot the command to restart samba
[02:53] <jedipottsy> how do i enable direct rendering*
[02:53] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, i'm poor
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> anacron: it wasn't meant for you :)
[02:54] <anacron> haha
[02:54] <xerox> linukso: exactly what I'm referring about - is gnome-terminal the only application that can run in proper fullscreen, under GNOME?
[02:54] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy:  sudo invoke-rc,d samba restart
[02:54] <linukso> xerox: no, epiphany can, evince can, firefox too I think
[02:54] <xerox> linukso: I do not like this solution because gnome-terminal gives really awful colors to Emacs (and a very low number of them).
[02:54] <anacron> so we both talk to each other, even we don't have anything to talk about, that's wasting of time
[02:54] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: oops the comma should be a dot
[02:55] <thoreauputic> invoke-rc.d
[02:55] <linukso> xerox: you can change the colors in gnome-term, so that shouldn't be a problem.
[02:55] <deufo> HrdwrBoB, btw, doesnt gnome use gnome-volume-manager to do the mouting, if i remove gnome, i won't have gnome-vlolume-manager hence i'll still have the same problem
[02:55] <thesamet> when I type locale, I get: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[02:56] <deufo> someone here must know how to get /dev/sd* to work
[02:56] <deufo> stop hiding
[02:56] <xerox> linukso: it is a problem - i.e. Emacs does have less colors in font-highlighting and such, it's awful to the eye.
[02:57] <jaqkar> anacron: thanks managed to get it sorted
[02:57] <UbUnTuThingy> it didnt work lol :(
[02:57] <linukso> xerox: ok, but I don't have another solution to running emacs in fullscreen under gnome, sorry.
[02:57] <giard> is the warning about breezy still in effect?  I saw they just released a new breezy test
[02:57] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[02:57] <jaqkar> anacron: sry not u :p
[02:57] <ubotu> from memory, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[02:57] <aadis> xerox: full screen is a function of window manager
[02:57] <xerox> linukso: thank you anyway :-)
[02:57] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: thanks managed to get it sorted
[02:58] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: :)
[02:58] <thesamet> how do i set the system default locale?
[02:58] <linukso> xerox: if you want a great wm for running apps i fullscreen I can recommend wmii-2
[02:58] <deufo> did ubuntu forum go down?
[02:58] <aadis> i don't know about metacity and others allow you. sawfish is one.
[02:58] <xerox> aadis: yes, I was hoping it could be possible to run arbitrary applications fullscreen.
[02:58] <UbUnTuThingy> samba restart
[02:58] <thoreauputic> thesamet:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:58] <aadis> linukso: yeah, i use wmii too
[02:58] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: maybe you can advise me on the rest of my setup
[02:58] <laxise> please how do you install system wide java 1.5?
[02:58] <xerox> linukso: I'll take a look, thank you.
[02:58] <laxise> so I could have java plugins in mozilla?
[02:58] <laxise> thanx
[02:58] <laxise> mozilla-firefox
[02:59] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy:  sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[02:59] <UbUnTuThingy> neva mind thoreauputic
[02:59] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: ?
[02:59] <azriel0184> how much trouble is it to install a different wm to gnome?
[02:59] <linukso> xerox: but it's rather different compared to you "everyday" wm :), think more of gnu-screen
[02:59] <UbUnTuThingy> some how it failed to restart
[02:59] <Hobbsee> laxise - it's in the ubuntuguide
[03:00] <xerox> linukso: I have used ion before ion-2, and fvwm2 too :-)  I never heard of wmii-2, tough.
[03:00] <Hobbsee> laxise:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[03:00] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: it should have complained then
[03:00] <laxise> Hobbsee: ok, where is the page?  Or you mean the off
[03:00] <linukso> arphetic: changing the gnome wm doen't make much sense (at least in my opinion), but using a different wm with ubuntu is a piece of cake...
[03:00] <laxise> Hobbsee: oh thanx :P
[03:00] <UbUnTuThingy> just said [fail] 
[03:00] <Hobbsee> no problems - check it out - it's really, really useful
[03:00] <linukso> xerox: ah, then it should be familiar to you.
[03:00] <Hobbsee> laxise: there's an index at the top for easy reference :)
[03:01] <aadis> ah, great. xfontsel and xev still missing
[03:01] <UbUnTuThingy> now somehow before it disabled windows networking support
[03:01] <linukso> xerox: is a complete rewrite of the old wmi, inspired by lars/evil/ratpoison etc. But it feels very nice, and has got some nice features which makes it a breeze to use :)
[03:01] <aadis> time to get the source and compile!
[03:01] <rayde> so when a kernel update comes in (like today) does it only install the new sources (meaning I'd have to rebuild a kernel to use it) or is it somehow magically updating my kernel through the update procedure
[03:01] <laxise> Hobbsee: but that is jre, I need to run it with sdk
[03:01] <laxise> do the same rules apply?
[03:01] <xerox> linukso: I don't exactly know if I really want to switch from GNOME tough... its ubuntu bounties are kind of useful sometimes :-)
[03:01] <aadis> xerox: it also incorporates ideas from plan9
[03:02] <laxise> I see it ;)
[03:02] <laxise> it is the same
[03:02] <xerox> aadis: cool, what exactly?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> laxise:  oh good, i've got no idea...
[03:02] <UbUnTuThingy> samba is somehow fucked lol
[03:02] <deltron> language
[03:03] <Hobbsee> apart from being defensive, how's anyone supposed to be able to help you with that?
[03:03] <UbUnTuThingy> sorry
[03:03] <Hobbsee> *offensive
[03:03] <UbUnTuThingy> its just really annoying
[03:03] <thoreauputic> rayde: if you mean through apt/synaptic etc, it just installs the new kernel automagically
[03:03] <Seveas> UbUnTuThingy, then fix it :)
[03:04] <UbUnTuThingy> when i enabled windows networking again the network setup dialog crashed
[03:04] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: Tridge lives in Canberra - send him a note ;)
[03:04] <umboto> hey i can't find smeg the gnome menu editor on synaptic
[03:04] <UbUnTuThingy> could that be part of the reason
[03:04] <Seveas> !smeg
[03:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:04] <umboto> or on apt-get on console
[03:04] <umboto> oh
[03:04] <rayde> thoreauputic: hmm... should i be seeing a change in the response to uname -a after the newer kernel is sintalled?
[03:04] <umboto> thanks
[03:04] <azriel0184> rayde, a reboot is required to use the new kernel though
[03:04] <thoreauputic> rayde: only if you reboot
[03:05] <rayde> azriel0184 thoreauputic: gotcha :) thanks
[03:05] <ce-fanky> hiiiiii
[03:05] <UbUnTuThingy> this isnt a problem in australia lol
[03:05] <umboto> hey will that smeg binary work on the amd64 release?
[03:06] <Seveas> umboto, yes
[03:06] <umboto> thanks Seveas
[03:06] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: you know who Tridge is, right?
[03:06] <xerox> Err, sorry - Emacs crashed ?!
[03:06] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: i am trying to setup ubuntu as a gateway and transparent proxy
[03:07] <xerox> aadis: did I miss any answr?
[03:07] <xerox> answer, even.
[03:07] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: beyond my level I'm afraid
[03:07] <muffin_> hm, my diablo 2 says "Error22:A critical error has occured while initializing DirectDraw". So i really don't have to install DirectX???
[03:07] <bwlang> i get this message when i try to install kdebase-dev - Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgcrypt11/libgcrypt11-dev_1.2.0-11_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch how can i fix the problem?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: you probably want to install squid is all I know
[03:07] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: thx
[03:08] <Seveas> azriel0184, uname -a will tell you
[03:08] <UbUnTuThingy> no lol
[03:08] <umboto> smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[03:08] <umboto>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.
[03:08] <umboto> dpkg: error processing smeg (--install):
[03:08] <jaqkar> can anyone else help me with config of gateway and transparent proxy
[03:08] <umboto> ??
[03:08] <UbUnTuThingy> i live about 600 miles from canberra lol
[03:09] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: tridge is the guy who wrote the original samba ;-)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> UbUnTuThingy: Andrew Tridgell from memory
[03:09] <bwlang> hmm - it's just a problem with that mirror... other mirrors work okay.
[03:10] <setite> anyoen had a crack at OSx86 yet?
[03:10] <UbUnTuThingy> oh ok
[03:10] <rapha> Hi all!
[03:10] <ORiON> setite: in vmware
[03:10] <ORiON> setite: haven't tried native
[03:10] <bimberi> jaqkar: have you considered a distribution made for the purpose - such as IPCop - http://ipcop.org/
[03:11] <rapha> Is there something like thunderbird as a webmail solution, i.e. that can handle multiple SMTP & POP3 servers?
[03:11] <{Seb}> rapha: Hula?
[03:11] <zwnj> i removed apache ("""apt-get remove apache""") but already have "/etc/apache" and "/etc/init.d/apache".  what's wrong?
[03:11] <{Seb}> rapha: you can have several 'agents' for POP, IMAP, SMTP etc..
[03:11] <ORiON> zwnj: you need to purge the configs
[03:11] <rapha> {Seb}: I'll try that, thanks!
[03:11] <setite> ORiON: what do you think are the advantages...??
[03:11] <setite> media apps?
[03:12] <setite> im thinking of picking it up to try
[03:12] <{Seb}> rapha: what was that?
[03:12] <zwnj> ORiON: how?  with apt-get or what?
[03:12] <Seveas> zwnj, try dpkg -P apache
[03:12] <umboto> did anyone else get that error i got, when trying to install the smeg deb?
[03:12] <zwnj> thanks all :)
[03:12] <ce-fanky> jhghjghj
[03:12] <ORiON> setite: not really, I can't use any rosetta apps, no itunes :(.
[03:12] <jaqkar> bimberi: i have also looked at smoothwall but i really dont want to get rid of ubuntu
[03:12] <Seveas> umboto, hmm, I don't know whether there are amd64 binaries for the dependencies...
[03:12] <Seveas> let me check
[03:13] <muffin_> hm, my diablo 2 says "Error22:A critical error has occured while initializing DirectDraw". So i really don't have to install DirectX???
[03:13] <rapha> {Seb}: I said I will try Hula. But do you know if I'll need root access to my webserver? Because I only can FTP to it...
[03:13] <{Seb}> rapha: you need root access
[03:13] <bimberi> jaqkar: fair enough.  Although it you've got an older pc hanging around the minspecs for ipcop are quite low
[03:13] <{Seb}> rapha: also, hula is a email server - not a web application
[03:13] <srijith> quick question on the latest kernel security update
[03:13] <{Seb}> rapha: you need to install packages or compile from SVN
[03:13] <rapha> Too bad :-/
[03:13] <pitti> srijith: yes?
[03:14] <srijith> once I update using synaptic, do I get a choice of the old kernel and new or will the new one displace the old one?
[03:14] <Seveas> srijith, no
[03:14] <srijith> no as in?
[03:14] <ORiON> muffin_: cedega translates directx, you don't need to install it
[03:14] <pitti> srijith: since this update doesn't change the ABI, it will just replace
[03:14] <Seveas> no as in the new package will overwrite the older in this upgrade
[03:15] <srijith> oh ok.. now I really need to know what the heck are the changes in the HP customised version.. hopefully nothing in the kernel images
[03:16] <aadis> man, i finally had to get xbase-clients from debian/unstable. extract files manually and put them in my ~/bin
[03:16] <kevor> how to do a commandline screenshot?
[03:16] <kemik> kevor:  not inside X?
[03:16] <jaqkar> bimberi: the old pc i do have is now used for ubuntu
[03:17] <kemik> kevor:  copy-paste is usually good for "screenshotting" commandlines
[03:17] <bimberi> jaqkar: and runs it very well i expect :)
 arphetic: changing the gnome wm doen't make much sense (at least in my opinion), but using a different wm with ubuntu is a piece of cake..
[03:17] <arphetic> ?
[03:17] <rapha> {Seb}: Is there nothing that is just a client?
[03:17] <kevor> no, a command to make a screenshot of X
[03:17] <kemik> jaqkar:  tried quicktables? (i fell asleep with my book :/ )
[03:17] <jaqkar> bimberi: it does :)
[03:18] <aadis> xwd takes screenshots
[03:18] <jaqkar> kemik: damn, and all this time i thought ure hard at work
[03:18] <jaqkar> kemik: still trying to figure out how to combine the iptables with squid
[03:19] <Determinist> Seveas, do you happen to know a good place to learn of the debian/ubuntu boot script system?
[03:19] <kemik> jaqkar:  well i've been reading :) so i've not slept too much :)
[03:19] <jaqkar> kemik: what you studying for?
[03:19] <kemik> jaqkar:  Virtual Reality course.. 3d-programming in c++
[03:20] <Seveas> Determinist, man init
[03:20] <Determinist> Seveas, thanks
[03:20] <Seveas> Determinist, and /etc/init.d/skeleton
[03:20] <jaqkar> kemik: freaky, u planning to become a game designer
[03:21] <{Seb}> rapha: why not try Horde/IMP?
[03:21] <jaqkar> ai ai forum is still down
[03:21] <umboto> hey Seveas any luck on the smeg for amd64?
[03:21] <fluffybunny_> !xmms
[03:21] <ubotu> fluffybunny_: Are you on ritalin?
[03:21] <srijith> is the forums down?
[03:21] <ORiON> yup
[03:21] <srijith> k
[03:22] <jaqkar> y
[03:22] <fluffybunny_> funny, ok, who'se an xmms expert?\
[03:22] <UbUnTuThingy> im back, restart didnt help samba at all
[03:22] <kemik> jaqkar:  nah, it's just a course i've taken... of course, it would be fun but i dont think i'll do game-programming...
[03:22] <UbUnTuThingy> i mite need to load the backup version
[03:22] <fluffybunny_> is there a way to rate your songs in xmms? or a plugin or something that can do that?
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> !repositries
[03:22] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> !backports
[03:23] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:23] <kemik> !repositories
[03:23] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool.
[03:23] <jaqkar> fluffybunny: you might want to check out www.jinzora.org if your serious about your media
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> tahnks
[03:23] <jaqkar> fluffybunny_: you might want to check out www.jinzora.org if your serious about your media
[03:24] <fernando> hi all
[03:24] <jaqkar> !dude
[03:24] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jaqkar
[03:24] <fernando> anyone have experience with wpa-psk ipw2200 ?
[03:24] <umboto> dam smeg is only for i386
[03:24] <ORiON> jaqkar: never seen that before, you use it?
[03:24] <jaqkar> lol
[03:24] <umboto> oh well, gotta write my own .desktop files
[03:25] <umboto> :-/
[03:25] <fernando> No keys have been configured - skip key clearing
[03:25] <alex__> can anyone help to find the package that will allow my to communicate with an apple mac ?
[03:25] <DrKayBee> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[03:25] <jaqkar> ORiON: yes i do, its so amazing and seems not alot of people know it
[03:25] <fernando> yes
[03:25] <james_> can you install internet explorer on Ubuntu?
[03:26] <jaqkar> ORiON: and you can listen to your own stuff from anywhere really, hence the slogan "free your media"
[03:26] <jaqkar> james_: dude!
[03:26] <DrKayBee> alex - how do you want to communicate with the mac?
[03:26] <bimberi> james_: why on earth...?
[03:26] <setite> bimberi: because FF is gimp
[03:26] <jaqkar> james_: why for?
[03:27] <srijith> james_, using wine, I think you can
[03:27] <Seveas> umboto?
[03:27] <setite> i will be doing it too... because i cant do some thing in FF linux tghat i can in FF win or MSIE
[03:27] <umboto> yes?
[03:27] <Pac> !wlan
[03:27] <setite> i should do it right now actually... i need my xm radio
[03:27] <ubotu> Pac: Are you on ritalin?
[03:27] <bimberi> setite: oh ... yes ... right ... Huh?
[03:27] <Pac> !wireless
[03:27] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:27] <umboto> Seveas, ?
[03:27] <fernando> Seveas ubuntuforums.org is out ?
[03:28] <james_> i don't understand how to install anything , or how to play games online, i can't figure out how to download games
[03:28] <jaqkar> setite: like what activeX stuff?
[03:28] <ORiON> jaqkar: sure better than what I have with mythweb
[03:28] <Seveas> umboto, still working on it, had a little server problem
[03:28] <setite> bimberi: go to xm.com... sign up for the free trial... and it wont work
[03:28] <umboto> i c
[03:28] <srijith> fernando, yup
[03:28] <setite> jaqkar: wmp9 streaming media
[03:28] <bimberi> setite: ah - i c now
[03:28] <fernando> =(
[03:28] <james_> what is wine?
[03:28] <srijith> !wine
[03:28] <setite> bimberi: i hate to do it.. biut im not gonna buy more xm hardware... so i need it over the net
[03:28] <setite> WINE Is Not and Emulator
[03:28] <setite> an*
[03:28] <bimberi> setite: although i still don't know what "is gimp" meant :)
[03:29] <Seveas> umboto, you need to backport a few packages yourself if you want to use smeg
[03:29] <umboto> oh.
[03:29] <jaqkar> setite: sure there is no way of getting wmp9 in firefox?
[03:29] <umboto> is their a tutorial?
[03:29] <james_> i need help
[03:29] <Determinist> who runs ubuntuforums.org anyways?
[03:30] <jaqkar> we need a backup forum
[03:30] <srijith> james_, install wine and try this link -> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[03:30] <setite> ok ktorrent and the default bt suck
[03:30] <setite> jaqkar: no way that i can find...
[03:30] <james_> ok thank you, is there anything else I should know?
[03:30] <fernando> my wpa_supplicant returning No keys have been configured - skip key clearing. Anyone know why? I have psk="mykey" in config
[03:31] <setite> jaqkar: and using crossover office i couldnt get win ff to install
[03:31] <jaqkar> setite: did you install the codecs and stuff
[03:32] <srijith> james_, best to google... since this is not Ubuntu specific
[03:32] <srijith> james_, a lot of people seems to have done it, so you would get tips and hints from these places
[03:33] <fernando> ?
[03:33] <jaqkar> setite: w32codecs?
[03:33] <muffin_> how do i get sound i wine?
[03:33] <james_> it is kinda ubuntu specific, because I'm used to windows and I don't understand ubuntu, can it run the same kind of applications, and does it have a command prompt like for dos?
[03:33] <fernando> EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED
[03:33] <anthony> HI Whats an alternate web browser thats quicker than Fire fox for Abunta 5,04 56k modem 500 mhz intel box 256 RAM new insatallaton, new user, please?
[03:34] <srijith> james_, what I meant was, emulating windows and running windows programs in generic to Linux as such and not Ubunutu distribution of Linux..
[03:34] <srijith> s/in/is
[03:34] <thoreauputic> question: I just read that you can get the contents of your tty to write to screen.dump by typing " setterm -dump " - but this just gives me the eror: "couldn't read /dev/vcsa0, and cannot ioctl dump"  <-- anyone know what this means or how to get it to work?
[03:35] <umboto> sweet
[03:35] <umboto> hey Seveas i got it installed
[03:35] <umboto> i just installed the .14 python and installed smeg
[03:35] <james_> i'm sorry but i don't understand, don't i have linux?
[03:36] <Pac> james_ whats your operating system called?
[03:36] <srijith> james_, wine is a program that emulates windows at the lower level so that windows based programs can run on linux
[03:37] <jaqkar> heck
[03:37] <jaqkar> i need to sort this asap
[03:37] <jaqkar> my isp sucks ballz
[03:37] <setite> jaqkar: yes
[03:37] <Pac> srijith whats the command to see my partitions in terminal?
[03:37] <james_> 32 bit ubuntu linux is my os
[03:37] <srijith> Pac, df?
[03:37] <setite> jaqkar: i cant find anything on it... all threads point to me being buggered with getting wmp9 to play in  site
[03:37] <jaqkar> !bot
[03:37] <ubotu> Indeed, that is what I am.
[03:38] <jaqkar> !just checking
[03:38] <ubotu> jaqkar: What?
[03:38] <srijith> james_, since wine runs on a lot of linux distros (not just Ubuntu alone), it is much better to read up on wine
[03:38] <james_> ok so i downloaded wine now what do I do with it, how do i install it
[03:38] <Pac> !fdisk
[03:38] <jaqkar> !nevermind
[03:38] <ubotu> Pac: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:38] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jaqkar
[03:38] <umboto> thanks for the help Seveas
[03:38] <srijith> james_, in general than "wine in Ubuntu".. of cours exepcet how to install wine in Ubunu
[03:38] <Pac> srijith someone like fdisk mate
[03:39] <thoreauputic> sudo fdisk -l
[03:39] <srijith> Pac, that one
[03:39] <Pac> and i need to remove all partitions
[03:39] <Pac> then re-install windows
[03:39] <Pac> right?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> actually the sudo is superfluous...
[03:39] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: i need help to setup ubuntu as a gateway and transparent proxy
[03:39] <jaqkar>  i need help to setup ubuntu as a gateway and transparent proxy
[03:40] <Pac> !ubuntu
[03:40] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[03:40] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: lol, sry
[03:40] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: yeah, I know - I doubt that I can help much
[03:40] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: wasnt meant to you
[03:40] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: OK ;)
[03:40] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: i just went up and entered :p
[03:40] <srijith> Pac, if you need to edit the partition table.. you need "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"
[03:40] <Pac> thoreauputic: if i want to just have windows xp and i have ubuntu at the moment what do i do?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> jaqkar: tut tut *grin*
[03:40] <james_> my computer doesn't know what to open the file with
[03:41] <srijith> Pac, change hda to your system's setting
[03:41] <prower> !freebsd
[03:41] <ubotu> prower: What?
[03:41] <ORiON> jaqkar: any experience with streaming video with Jinzora?
[03:41] <thoreauputic> Pac: I have no idea - I assume you just install XP
[03:41] <srijith> !ubotu
[03:41] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <jaqkar> ORiON: its audio only as far as i know
[03:42] <thoreauputic> Pac: windows knows nothing about your linux install - I would expect it to overwrite it
[03:42] <Pac> ok ta
[03:42] <ORiON> jaqkar: says it supports avi wmv mpeg and mov
[03:42] <srijith> Pac, thoreauputic is right.. XP is very keen on deleting and formatting anything that you ask it to..
[03:42] <thoreauputic> srijith: heheh
[03:42] <srijith> Pac, including itself *singger*
[03:43] <jaqkar> ORiON: i havent even seen that, only use it for audio
[03:43] <umboto> hey where do wallpapers go in gnome?
[03:43] <Karhuton> Pac: Windows thinks the hard drive is corrupted and wants to format it - or like the boot disk says, the parition might be corrupted by a virus :)
[03:43] <umboto> windows is the virus
[03:43] <thoreauputic> Pac: in other words, windows is brain-dead ;)
[03:43] <feugan3333> Hi all. When I export a variable it is only available in the current shell. Is there any why to export a variable to all shells?
[03:43] <jaqkar> forum is up!!!
[03:43] <jaqkar> forum is up!!!
[03:44] <jaqkar> :p
[03:44] <umboto> panic and run
[03:44] <jaqkar> go go go
[03:44] <Karhuton> feugan3333, you could add it to your .bashrc
[03:44] <UbUnTuThingy> !howcome
[03:44] <ubotu> howcome is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:44] <umboto> hey were do i put my wallpapers at?
[03:44] <UbUnTuThingy> howcome
[03:44] <umboto> let me google..
[03:44] <srijith> Seveas, any movement on tor?
[03:44] <Karhuton> umboto, drag'n'drop 'em into the background selection dialog
[03:45] <umboto> ok
[03:45] <umboto> well it copy it there?
[03:45] <Karhuton> umboto, Just like you do with all the other theme stuff in Gnome
[03:45] <Karhuton> umboto, I'd guess so :)
[03:45] <umboto> will*
[03:45] <feugan3333> Krahuton: Thanks, do I need to log out before it starts working?
[03:45] <umboto> i don't want to delete the wallpaper
[03:45] <umboto> and not work anymore
[03:45] <umboto> lol
[03:45] <srijith> we really need a backup for forum.. static
[03:45] <UbUnTuThingy> mark
[03:45] <umboto> if so, ill put in a safe place
[03:45] <Karhuton> feugan3333, just restart the gnome-terminal
[03:46] <ekimus> hmm is there _any_ reason why a file outside $HOME (and  /var/tmp /tmp) should be owned by a user that is not root?
[03:46] <Karhuton> umboto, try what I said and then rename the original file
[03:46] <srijith> ekimus, why not..
[03:46] <srijith> ekimus, for example /var/log
[03:46] <feugan3333> Karhuton, ah ok. Thanks
[03:46] <Karhuton> umboto, then switch your wallpaper from and back to the image. It won't be able to find it again if it hasn't copied it
[03:46] <ekimus> srijith: i mean more like /usr....
[03:47] <feugan3333> ekimus: lots. Apache home directory for example
[03:47] <mveers> hi
[03:47] <umboto> ok Karhuton
[03:48] <thoreauputic> Seveas: any idea why "setterm -dump " in a tty errors out? -->  "couldn't read /dev/vcsa0, and cannot ioctl dump"
[03:48] <ekimus> feugan3333: let me rephrase: user == my day to day user. that would be the first time that I would own (for example) /usr/share/.....
[03:48] <ekimus> seems strange to me for a linux
[03:48] <jedipottsy> so does n1 know how to enable direct rendering with and ATI 9800PRO drivers 8.14.13 installed
[03:49] <azriel0184> direct rendering?
[03:49] <jedipottsy> ye
[03:49] <jedipottsy> 3d acceleration
[03:50] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, you want DRI enabled
[03:50] <jedipottsy> it is#
[03:50] <jedipottsy> its in the xorg file
[03:50] <Seveas> thoreauputic, ENOFRIGGENCLUE
[03:50] <azriel0184> use the fglrx driver
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hahah - OK then ;)
[03:50] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, and it should be enabled by default, as long as you have fglrx x driver, kernel driver and suitable internal/external agp configured
[03:51] <Bags> Hello there, ladies and gents.
[03:51] <srijith> ekimus, another example, a uid "privoxy" owns all files inside /etc/privoxy
[03:51] <Bags> It's your worst nightmare noob again.
[03:51] <umboto> hey Karhuton they go in /usr/share/backgrounds :-)
[03:51] <feugan3333> ekimus: if you own /usr/share then yes that is strange!
[03:51] <Bags> Got one for you all here....
[03:51] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, Ubuntu has _old_ fglrx x driver and kernel module installed. You better check you're using the 8.14 versions :\
[03:51] <UbUnTuThingy> ive reinstalled samba and it still doesnt work
[03:51] <jedipottsy> it is
[03:51] <feugan3333> ekimus: which directory are you concerned about?
[03:51] <ekimus> srijith: yes but my user owns files in /etc/skel for example (not talking about system users like apache, postgres or something)
[03:51] <Bags> Just set up a shared folder under gnome and can't access it with any computer on the network.
[03:52] <Bags> Any ideas as to what I've missed here?
[03:52] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, 'fglrxinfo' should suffice for the x driver and check /var/log/xorgsomething.0.log for fglrx version output
[03:52] <prower> Bags: Make sure the Windows machines (if there are any) have their firewalls configured properly
[03:52] <Karhuton> umboto, thanks. Good to know
[03:52] <srijith> ekimus, that is strange
[03:52] <Bags> I can't see where I'm supposed to put in the shares folder privilidges.
[03:52] <jedipottsy> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:52] <jedipottsy> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:52] <jedipottsy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:52] <jedipottsy> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:53] <ekimus> feugan3333: /usr/share/Applications (a package from a 3rd party repository) i wasjust wondering if that is some ubuntu layout or the package that is b0rken
[03:53] <feugan3333> ekimus: which directory?
[03:53] <srijith> !paste
[03:53] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:53] <Determinist> where is it recommended that i put a small util script that i wrote for it to be on the path? /bin?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Seveas: the error meassage returns only one result on google! /me wins! *g* (and no answer afaict)
[03:53] <ekimus> feugan3333: among others (but all the files that have these permissions are from the mentioned package)
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> hey any of you know about socket w processors?
[03:54] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, Just check the log file I told you about. You want to look for all the messages from fglrx
[03:54] <Determinist> EasterSunshine, never heard of socket W ...
[03:54] <Bags> Oh, the PCs can see it, and I'm presented with a log-in for the share, but it rejects it each time.
[03:54] <EasterSunshine> it is an undocumented intel p4 1.7ghz, it seems no motherboard supports it
[03:54] <HeXiOn> Hi
[03:54] <Bags> prower, Oh, the PCs can see it, and I'm presented with a log-in for the share, but it rejects it each time.
[03:54] <HeXiOn> I have a problem, anybody can help me?
[03:55] <srijith> HeXiOn, we hope to :)
[03:55] <ekimus> EasterSunshine: *lol* so intel built a processor that noone can use?
[03:55] <prower> Bags: Oh, okay...I see...maybe if you change the permissions on the directory
[03:55] <Bags> prower, My other Umbuntu logs right into it.
[03:55] <feugan3333> ekimus: The package might be broken, I assume you were root when you installed.
[03:55] <EasterSunshine> ekimus: yes it was in a dell and you know how dell makes everything custom so you can't upgrade and stuff
[03:55] <HeXiOn> I have 2 discs, one SATA and other PATA, and I have windows on PATA and want to install ubuntu in SATA disk
[03:55] <HeXiOn> but ubuntu just allows me to install it on PATA
[03:55] <Karhuton> ahuman, jedipotsy use 'modinfo fglrx'
[03:55] <Karhuton> What the..
[03:55] <HeXiOn> I have searched info at the web but nothing works..
[03:55] <Karhuton> ahuman, n/m
[03:56] <jedipottsy> (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
[03:56] <jedipottsy> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o
[03:56] <jedipottsy> (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
[03:56] <jedipottsy> 	compiled for 6.8.0, module version = 8.14.13
[03:56] <jedipottsy> 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[03:56] <jedipottsy> 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
[03:56] <Karhuton> DONT PASTE HERE
[03:56] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell jedipottsy about pastebin
[03:56] <srijith> HeXiOn, I read somewhere that someone who had a similar problem with Hoary had to yank the cable off the PATA disk
[03:56] <hmrocha> hello, i'm having trouble setting up ubuntu logins via AD
[03:56] <hmrocha> can anyone help me?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> 1lart jedipottsy
[03:56] <ekimus> feugan3333: not really, i did it over sudo (gotta look at the sudoers file wether the environment variables are set). think i'll just chown them and see what happens :)
[03:56] <srijith> !paste
[03:56] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:56] <thoreauputic> bah
[03:56] <srijith> that was for you jedipottsy
[03:56] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, Did you run fglrxconfig?
[03:56] <HeXiOn> I have read that, but bus problem was he wanted to load grub on the mbr of the SATA
[03:57] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, With sudo
[03:57] <HeXiOn> my problem isnt that, because ubunto DONT recognize my SATA drive
[03:57] <prower> hmrocha: Not familiar with Active Directory, sorry...maybe the wiki might have something on it
[03:57] <Bags> prower, Well, I'm logging into it with the same user credentials as the acount under which it presides...
[03:57] <feugan3333> ekimus: not a bad idea, but I think it's likely that they are owned by your user account for a reason.
[03:57] <srijith> HeXiOn, there was someone in the channel today who said Ubuntu installed fine on SATA
[03:58] <HeXiOn> do u have the log?
[03:58] <srijith> HeXiOn, but he had only SATA
[03:58] <prower> Bags: Yes, that should work...I'm not too sure, I only ever set it up once :> Someone in here will probably have a better idea
[03:58] <ekimus> feugan3333: no theis is stuff like the xsession which should clearly _not_ be owned by a normal user
[03:58] <hmrocha> prower, ok, i'll search it
[03:58] <HeXiOn> yes, but if I unplug the PATA, the distro dont recognize any drive
[03:58] <Bags> prower, Ok. Thanks for trying. really apreciate it.
[03:59] <Bags> Anyone in the room help me with this? I'm trying to set up a folder share, but no PCs can log into it.
[03:59] <srijith> HeXiOn, am not a h/w person.. so all I know is what I have heard.. sorry
[03:59] <HeXiOn> thanks anyway srijith :)
[03:59] <bimberi> thoreauputic: I've nutted it out - "sudo cat /dev/vcs1" will dump the contents of tty1
[04:00] <bimberi> thoreauputic: vcs2 for tty2 etc.
[04:00] <thoreauputic> bimberi: aha ! Nice one thanks!
[04:00] <bimberi> thoreauputic: np - "man vcsa" had the clues
[04:01] <infinito> can anyone tell me how to add options to modules on startup?
[04:01] <thoreauputic> bimberi: ah! /me fires up the man page...
[04:01] <feugan3333> ekimus: ahh ok. Well you might try removing the package and then installing again. See if the same permisions are given. If so email the package maintainer and ask.
[04:02] <HeXiOn> anyone has an idea of how to install ubuntu in a SATA drive when theres no modules in the installation CD which works for me??
[04:02] <ekimus> feugan3333: it's an alpha package anyway :)
[04:02] <Karhuton> Hexion, search google with 'linux kernel support <your sata chipset or something>'
[04:02] <Karhuton> Hexion, find out what kernel version supports it
[04:03] <Bags> Anyone in the room help me with this? I'm trying to set up a folder share, but no PCs can log into it.
[04:03] <Karhuton> Hexion, if it is only available as module (not included with the vanilla kernel), you might have to go into compiling it manually
[04:03] <HeXiOn> Karhuton: and when I find it, how do I do to compile during installation?
[04:04] <Karhuton> Is there some wiki article about kernel module compilation?
[04:04] <Determinist> anyone here that has managed to make xmame run under hoary?
[04:04] <zkimel> hi
[04:04] <HeXiOn> Karhuton: I think the kernel can be compiled only in an installed distro, not during installation
[04:04] <Karhuton> Hexion, first find out if there is support for it. No need to worry about compiling beforehand
[04:04] <HeXiOn> maybe I am in an error
[04:05] <Karhuton> Hexion, you can compile new modules for your old kernel (from ubuntu) - if the module supports the kernel version you already have
[04:05] <Pac> *cough* *Cough*
[04:05] <Pac> *cough* *Cough*
[04:05] <Pac> *cough* *Cough*
[04:05] <zkimel> i want to install hoary on my kid's pc, but i don't want him to know the sudo password. is there a way to change it and keep the same gdm logon password?
[04:05] <HeXiOn> ok, I'll try to search better. Thanks Karhuton
[04:05] <Karhuton> HeXiOn, that's the whole point of modules :)
[04:06] <HeXiOn> I havent many experience in so, my level of linux is just user :)
[04:06] <Seveas> zkimel, just make a new user for him
[04:06] <Pac> "Yvonne" yoooohhoooo
[04:06] <HeXiOn> ok, thanks a lot and bye :)
[04:06] <Pac> over here
[04:06] <Seveas> that new user will not have sudo rights
[04:06] <feugan3333> Pac, are you alright. You might want to get that cough checked out.
[04:06] <kemik> !visudo
[04:06] <ubotu> I don't know, kemik
[04:06] <jedipottsy> ok ive run fglrxconfig and restarted and still says 3d acceleration isnt working
[04:07] <kemik> ubotu visudo is a tool to edit the sudoers list.
[04:07] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, did you choose external AGP support or not?
[04:07] <ubotu> okay, kemik
[04:07] <kemik> !visudo
[04:07] <ubotu> it has been said that visudo is a tool to edit the sudoers list.
[04:07] <Yvonne> Pac: :P
[04:07] <jedipottsy> default option
[04:07] <zkimel> Seveas, ok i'll do that. but just by curiosity would it be possible to have only one user account and have a different sudo password?
[04:07] <Pac> yvonne im not pacman btw
[04:07] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, Run the config again, and choose the another one.
[04:08] <jedipottsy> want me to paste my xorg?
[04:08] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, Ummm. Use DCC
[04:08] <kemik> use pastebin
[04:08] <kemik> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:09] <jedipottsy> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1387
[04:09] <jaqkar> anyone from AU here?
[04:09] <clem_yeats> from where ?
[04:09] <clem_yeats> Australia ?
[04:09] <jaqkar> australia
[04:10] <clem_yeats> I've been there... really nice
[04:10] <clem_yeats> g'day mate ! :))
[04:10] <Karhuton> jedipottsy, Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" -> "yes"
[04:11] <infinito> anyone know how to pass options to modules on startup
[04:11] <Karhuton> restart GDM too (push ctrl+alt+backspace in the login window)
[04:11] <plagerism> Is there a package that removes the Debian menu from the Applications menu??
[04:12] <clem_yeats> plagerism : certainly a config file more like
[04:12] <infinito> plagerism: apt-get remove --purge menu
[04:12] <plagerism> infinito and that is just the debian submenu??
[04:12] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: gday m8..lol
[04:12] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: im south african :)
[04:12] <infinito> plagerism: it's the pkg that makes the debian submenu appears
[04:13] <bretzel> Hello :-) - I have tried "splshy" but seemed to not work... I think I am missing something... It was well installed but regarding running it at boot time, I saw no hints on how to enable it
[04:13] <plagerism> Okay cool thank you
[04:13] <infinito> plagerism: if you remove it, tghe debian submenu will go away
[04:13] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: were playing AU tmrow - rugby ;)
[04:13] <clem_yeats> jaqkar: was there a match today ??
[04:13] <jedipottsy> didnt work
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: worked out the setterm -dump issue : I forgot to use sudo! ( Doh )
[04:13] <jedipottsy> point2play still says 3d acceleration isnt working
[04:13] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: no
[04:14] <lucas> hi
[04:14] <lucas> does the ubuntu cds include memtest ?
[04:14] <clem_yeats> jaqkar: oh tomorrow
[04:14] <lucas> under which name ?
[04:14] <lucas> on which CD ?
[04:14] <lucas> :-)
[04:14] <plagerism> It didnt go away
[04:14] <bretzel> and ... intalled linux kernel 2.6.11 ( image, headers ...etc.. ) and it crashes after first login ...
[04:14] <hmrocha> prower, it's working fine :)
[04:15] <hmrocha> prower, the wiki on this subject is great
[04:15] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: :)
[04:15] <Digital_Warrior0> how do i add a alias ip
[04:15] <clem_yeats> jaqkar: what time is the match on ?
[04:15] <Karhuton> brettcar, yes. Don't use it unless you have to for device support
[04:15] <Karhuton> Damn it
[04:15] <Karhuton> bretzel, yes. Don't use it unless you have to for device support
[04:15] <prower> hmrocha: Ahh, well that's great then :> The wiki is usually pretty helpful
[04:16] <bretzel> 2Karhuton: .6.11 ?
[04:16] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: 18:00 AU time
[04:16] <aadis> anyone here has the pragmata font?
[04:17] <bretzel> Karhuton: I get it.. thanks for the info :-)
[04:17] <ctp> i love ubuntu!!!
[04:17] <Ng> it loves you too ;)
[04:17] <clem_yeats> jaqkar : what time is that in GMT ??
[04:17] <Hans_de_Zwart> how do I install ubuntu when I cannot get my comp to boot from CDROM?
[04:18] <Determinist> i dont get it. why would xmame work like a charm on FC3 and not work at all while spitting weird errors under hoary?
[04:18] <ctp> :) i have every single device i own including HDTV working in my ubuntu machine!
[04:18] <bretzel> About "Splashy" Seems well installed but don't shows at boot time, I am sure I am missing stuff. ( Ubuntu forum don;t explain all the procedures)
[04:18] <zerboxx> When I play some movies in mplayer they're out of sync, while the same movies in xine aren't.  I've found online something suggesting to use sdl audio output, but with esd enabled sdl doesn't work.  Is there a  way around this without killing esd each time I want to play a movie?
[04:18] <plagerism> ctp what kind of hdtv card do you have??
[04:18] <ctp> its called FusionHDTV (i'm in Australia)
[04:19] <plagerism> ctp cool!
[04:19] <ctp> it works great, even though I use Gnome I use kaffeine player which is AWESOME and even allows me to record
[04:19] <deFrysk> hoe noem je letters die naar links hellen ?
[04:19] <ctp> the only thing i can't work out is how to convert the .ts files into divx or something smaller than raw mpeg2
[04:19] <bretzel> ctp: :-) I LOVE it me too!
[04:19] <ctp> :):) its the best distro ever (and I've used LOTS)
[04:20] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: esd isn't recommended for video ( latency)
[04:20] <mr_daemon> Hello. Is there anything that doesn't suck that can handle network locations/profiles without screwing up 3/4th of the time?
[04:20] <Bags> Does anyone here feel like helping a noob with a couple of things?
[04:20] <Ng> ctp: chances are ffmpeg or mencoder can do something with the .ts files
[04:20] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: So I have to kill it each time I want to watch something, or is there another way?
[04:20] <jaqkar> clem_yeats: no idea :p
[04:20] <bretzel> ctp: Same for me ( FC4; SuSE9.3PRO; Mandrake/Mandriva;Slackware )
[04:20] <Bags> Sharing a folder with XP and installing Java into Konquest PPC
[04:20] <ctp> Ng: I think you're right I just haven't spent enough time investigating!
[04:21] <ctp> bretzel, every time I buy a linux magazine I'm tempted to install the shiny distro on the cover, but ubuntu is the first one to make me resist that urge!
[04:21] <Bags> Currently with the network folder share, I can see it on the PC, but authenitcation log-in fails.
[04:21] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: use a different sound output for mplayer - I forget the flags but they are in the man: something like mplayer -ao alsa (could be wrong)
[04:21] <jaqkar> guys can you please check this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58216
[04:21] <ctp> so I guess you guys are all gnome-boys too?
[04:21] <Karhuton> ctp, mencoder is an excellent tool in converting stuff. There might be some GUIs available too. Try looking with Synaptic
[04:21] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: oh ok, but anything other than esd?
[04:21] <ctp> Karuton: thanks heaps I will look right now
[04:22] <Karhuton> ctp, recommend reading the mplayer's documentation on mencoder though
[04:22] <Bags> I'm using the same credentials as the actuall account being used to create the folder, but I can't log into it from a PC with these credentials!!! :-(
[04:22] <Karhuton> ctp, it's a commandline tool so it might not be too newbie friendly
[04:22] <stizoner> im still warming up 2 kubuntu, the difficulty wouldnt be such a hard sell if i could get it to perform as fast as xp
[04:22] <ctp> yeah i definitely will when i get time
[04:22] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: esd is a dog - I disabled it months ago and set up dmix
[04:22] <bretzel> Is that true that ogg has better encoding engine than mp3 ??
[04:22] <ctp> Karhuton: i'm not a newbie IMHO ;)
[04:22] <ctp> so thanks for the tip
[04:22] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: If that's the case, know of a good place to look about doing the same on my system?
[04:22] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, I had problems on my Debian Sarge with dmix locking up devices
[04:23] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: a howto here >> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA
[04:23] <stizoner> but free is cool
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Karhuton: YMMV - Works Here (tm)
[04:23] <mr_daemon> So there is absolutely no way to simply have more than one network profile and change them on the go?
[04:23] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: And dmix doesn't have the problems esd has, but also lets you have multiple sounds at once?
[04:23] <Karhuton> thoreauputic, Such as playing songs in rhythmbox and flash plugin in Firefox attempting to access the device - after song change the whole program locked up
[04:23] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: with alsa output, yes
[04:24] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: Ok, thanks!
[04:24] <Pac> anyone know a music downloading program for ubuntu
[04:24] <stizoner> xmule
[04:24] <ctp> Pac: gtk-gnutella
[04:24] <ctp> Pac: amule
[04:24] <stizoner> amule
[04:24] <loupous> bonjour
[04:24] <bretzel> Pac: If you have JAVA, try Limewire
[04:24] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: no guarantees, the usual disclaimers apply etc etc
[04:24] <ctp> Pac: limewire
[04:24] <Pac> nice
[04:25] <Pac> ive got LimeWireLinux.rpm on my desktop
[04:25] <loupous> hum hello
[04:25] <stizoner> bah gnutella
[04:25] <Pac> how do i install it
[04:25] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: heh, lets hope that if I mess it up..I can unmess it up :D
[04:25] <bretzel> loupous: bonjour je te conseil #ubuntu-fr pour le francais
[04:25] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: keep notes and backups ;)
[04:25] <Pac> ctp: ive got LimeWireLinux.rpm on my desktop in the file what do i do now.?
[04:25] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: will do
[04:25] <stizoner> bah mp3's im a flac snob :P
[04:25] <loupous> thank Bretzel
[04:26] <ctp> Pac: you don't need a rpm if you use Ubuntu, I will give you a link wait up
[04:26] <Pac> ok ctp
[04:26] <ctp> Pac: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:26] <stizoner> am i missing it? somewhere where i can turn off 'launch feedback' for everything? i know im just missing where it is
[04:26] <ook> hey.. I'm considering installing ubuntu for home and office. could you tell me, if it's system-wide upgradeable like debian, so you dont have to ever install it again? :)
[04:26] <ctp> that will probablr work even if you don't use ubuntu
[04:26] <ctp> ook: YES
[04:26] <clem_yeats> ook: it is
[04:27] <ctp> ook: it uses the same package management as debian
[04:27] <ook> GREAT :)
[04:27] <Pac> i do use ubuntu :)
[04:27] <bretzel> ctp: I have installed limewire targz from Limewire site and it works great - no special and f(*& RPM/DEB dependency
[04:27] <ctp> Pac: then that guide will help you with setting up limewire plus a bunch of other programs, I follow basically every step in that guide when i set up a new ubuntu machine
[04:27] <stizoner> yeah ook its based on debian
[04:27] <ctp> bretzel: cool!
[04:28] <ook> that's cool, I'm pretty familiar with debian already
[04:28] <Hikaru79> Anyone else having problems with the planetmirror repositories?
[04:28] <Pac> ok thanks ctp :))
[04:28] <bretzel> ctp: I have to say I don't really know what limewire needs but after istalled java jre (sun1.5) it works great ...
[04:28] <Ng> ook: it's like having a debian desktop, but good :)
[04:29] <bretzel> jre >=1.4.2--x
[04:29] <ctp> yeah i think it just needs java
[04:29] <ctp> are any/many of you guys on breezy yet? do you know when its due for release?
[04:29] <clem_yeats> ctp: october
[04:30] <ctp> awesome :) thanks Clem, I can't wait
[04:30] <ctp> last time I upgraded to hoary a month before it came out
[04:30] <clem_yeats> ctp : will it have openoffice 2 ?
[04:30] <ctp> I have no idea sorry Clem!
[04:30] <Karhuton> Is there a proper way to upgrade the distro?
[04:30] <ctp> I don't use office software much
[04:31] <stizoner> really gnutella=limewire is pretty inferior, better off getting archives of albums on amule/xmule, ed2k network is the largest network now, doesnt work well if u want single mp3s fast, load up a bunch of stuff and leave it runing for weeks, its a que system the longer you run it the faster it goes
[04:31] <ctp> yes Karhuton you need to update your /etc/sources.list file and change all the 'hoary' entries to 'breezy'
[04:31] <bretzel> btw: ( again ) Is that true that OGG has better encoding engine than MP3 ?
[04:31] <Karhuton> Except manually change repositories to point from Hoary to Breezy followed up update and dist-upgrade
[04:31] <ctp> then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:31] <hmrocha> Karhuton, apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:31] <ctp> bretzel, yeah I think its a higher quality mate!
[04:31] <Karhuton> Could usage of the backports repository cause problems when upgrading?
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[04:31] <Karhuton> I.e. a backport version of package x could be higher than Breezy's version
[04:32] <ctp> Karhuton, I dunno but I know if you upgrade to breezy now you are likely to have problems
[04:32] <Karhuton> ctp, I'm not going to upgrade. No reason to..
[04:32] <ctp> yeah that's right, if you're happy with what you have, why upgrade!
[04:32] <bretzel> ctp: ha!~ What I realize is that sometime, MP3 engine screwesup high -freq stream that sounds crappy - it never happened with ogg for me :-)
[04:32] <dubnium> question, where do I change power saving options? also how do I bring x back up when i come back to my comp and find it in console mode?
[04:33] <Karhuton> Is it ok to remove lvm and evms stuff?
[04:33] <Karhuton> Or are there some odd dependencies in Ubuntu for 'em
[04:33] <ctp> bretzel, yeah i've had great experiences with OGG files too!
[04:34] <bretzel> ctp: But it is sad that I cannot find any of that mobile ogg compatible players ...
[04:34] <ctp> dubnium, with regards to your second question, if X isn't running you can type "startx" to start it, if it is running you can try CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to the graphics screen
[04:34] <ejumpz> how to install mysql??
[04:34] <ctp> bretzel, oh yeah, that's annoying
[04:34] <dubnium> oh thnx
[04:35] <dubnium> ctrl alt f7.. would have never guessed
[04:35] <Karhuton> !bum
[04:35] <ubotu> [bum]  a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[04:35] <ctp> ejumpz, apt-get install mysql-server
[04:35] <Ng> bretzel: there's a bunch of ogg players
[04:35] <ook> is ubuntu more a kde or gnome distro? or does it matter which one to use?
[04:35] <ejumpz> thanks ctp
[04:35] <Ng> ook: gnome
[04:35] <ctp> dubnium, and you can use CTRL+ALT+F1-F6 to get lots of text terminals
[04:35] <clem_yeats> ook: it comes with gnome
[04:35] <Ng> ook: but there is kubuntu too if you really have to use kde ;)
[04:35] <Ng> canonical should offer counselling for people who think they want kde ;)
[04:35] <ctp> LOL
[04:36] <ook> I haven't used gnome before, but let's give it a try
[04:36] <ctp> i hate kde mostly because every app has K in front of it
[04:36] <bretzel> Ng: uh? I leave in Quebec/Canada and cannot find those magical things ...
[04:36] <Hikaru79> Anyone else having problems with the planetmirror repositories?
[04:36] <Sly> and there is xfce for people who disagree with both kde/gnome
[04:36] <ctp> ook, gnome is simple and perfect
[04:36] <JHK> hi there, i have a problem: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[04:36] <Ng> bretzel: I was actually looking at it last night and I found a few in the UK, lemmie just get you the list of players that support it...
[04:36] <clem_yeats> ctp: well there are a lot of G in the gnome world also..
[04:36] <thoreauputic> Ng: then they probably should lock me up - I use fluxbox ;)
[04:36] <ctp> clem_yeats, yeah, good point
[04:36] <bretzel> Ng:oh! thank you !!!
[04:36] <clem_yeats> long live CLI !! :))
[04:36] <Ng> bretzel: http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware - hopefully you can find someone importing some/all of those :)
[04:37] <Ng> thoreauputic: hehe
[04:37] <hmrocha> i'm getting an error when logging in gnome "Failed to Initialize HAL"
[04:37] <hmrocha> what might be the problem?
[04:37] <bretzel> Hg: Trying it now! :-)
[04:37] <Ng> bretzel: click on the PortablePLaysers link
[04:37] <clem_yeats> anyone bought a Sony Vaio ??
[04:37] <thoreauputic> hmrocha: "I'm sorry Dave, I cn't do that"
[04:37] <pitti> hmrocha: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13333
[04:38] <pitti> hmrocha: please add some information there
[04:38] <Karhuton> Is there a graphical tool to install manually downloaded debs?
[04:38] <hmrocha> thoreauputic, what?
[04:38] <clem_yeats> karhuton : manually but graphical... this would be a funny target..
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hmrocha: reference to "2001 - a Space Oddyssey"
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hmrocha: never mind...
[04:39] <hmrocha> thoreauputic, never watched the movie
[04:39] <clem_yeats> karhuton : pkginstall I think... to install in CLI.
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hmrocha: the computer was called HAL
[04:39] <Karhuton> clem_yeats, Um... Why not just use dpkg then?
[04:39] <hmrocha> thoreauputic, ok, now i get it :)
[04:39] <clem_yeats> yes.. like IBM.. nearly
[04:40] <clem_yeats> karhuton : well yes that's the idea.
[04:40] <pitti> thoreauputic, hmrocha: incidentially, upstream's name is David - close enough :-)
[04:40] <thoreauputic> heheh
[04:41] <hmrocha> pitti, what do you want me to add to that bug form?
[04:41] <bretzel> Ng: thanks for the link! I will be able to ask my local stores about those listed on the site! :-)
[04:41] <Ng> bretzel: good luck, also ask google :)
[04:41] <Ng> bretzel: e.g. I searched for the nextway dcube one with "dcube 150D uk" and it found me three suppliers :D
[04:41] <pitti> hmrocha: would be nice if you could debug hal as described on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[04:41] <eliphas_> whiwh modules.cofn should I modify to add my adsl line?
[04:41] <pitti> hmrocha: (second part on that page)
[04:42] <hmrocha> pitti, ok, i'll do that in a moment
[04:42] <pitti> hmrocha: thanks a lot
[04:42] <hmrocha> pitti, i need to create an image of this ubuntu first so that i can reboot
[04:42] <hmrocha> pitti, this ubuntu will be uploaded to 20 pc's
[04:43] <surf2me> hi @ all!
[04:43] <hmrocha> pitti, i'm switching my college from mandrake to ubuntu
[04:43] <hopeng> hello how to view "the startup program" ?
[04:43] <pitti> hmrocha: do you use hoary or breezy?
[04:43] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: When playing something now, should I select "alsa" or put in something different?
[04:43] <surf2me> does anyone know how I can crate a wireless netwirk with a key?
[04:43] <clem_yeats> hopeng : what do you mean ?
[04:43] <reiki_work> I have Spamassassin working with Evolution. If anyone wants directions I'll post a URL. It's a little slow so I wouldn't recommend it for people getting hundreds of email at the same time. Any better solution I'd love to hear about it
[04:43] <hmrocha> pitti, hoary of course, i can't put breezy on production yet
[04:43] <pitti> right
[04:44] <hmrocha> pitti, i only use breezy at home
[04:44] <pitti> hmrocha: however, would be cool if you could test with the breezy live cd
[04:44] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: I would use alsa - try your options
[04:44] <pitti> hmrocha: hal is much more stable there
[04:44] <hopeng> clem_yeats, i want to disable GAIM from auto starting
[04:44] <pitti> hmrocha: and I can't fix hoary anyway
[04:44] <bretzel> Ng:thanks :-)
[04:44] <clem_yeats> hopeng : oh ok
[04:44] <Ng> bretzel: no probs :)
[04:44] <pitti> hmrocha: so this only makes sense if the error is still in breezy
[04:44] <hopeng> clem_yeats, so i need to view the startup program, i want to disable some.
[04:44] <hmrocha> pitti, ok, but is this a hardware problem?
[04:45] <hardw1re> yay \o/
[04:45] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: if I use oss with beep or xmms, it ties up the sound device - but alsa doesn't
[04:45] <pitti> hmrocha: even if it is, hal shouldn't crash
[04:45] <hardw1re> the offical ubuntu channel :D
[04:45] <hopeng> i tried BUM, but its for service viewing, all that i need is 'startup program' list
[04:45] <stizoner> i havent had spam in years
[04:45] <pitti> hmrocha: did you enable DMA on CD-ROMs by any chance?
[04:45] <sfacius> hi at all
[04:45] <clem_yeats> hopeng : you're in Ubuntu ?
[04:45] <hardw1re> anyone know how to install/get wine for the amd64 hoary 5.04 version of ubuntu?
[04:45] <hopeng> clem_yeats, yes of course
[04:45] <thoreauputic> hopeng: what do you mean by "startup program" ?
[04:45] <hmrocha> pitti, no, just installed ubuntu, tried to login and i got that HAL error
[04:46] <clem_yeats> hopeng : does GAIM start as soon as you log in Gnome ?
[04:46] <hopeng> thoreauputic, everytime i login to gnome, i have 3 popups, 1: gaim , 2: you dont have a sufficient priviledges to start firestarter, 3: missing command to run.
[04:46] <clem_yeats> hopeng : look for a .gnomerc file or a .gnome directory in your home directory
[04:47] <thoreauputic> hopeng: get rid of them, and when you log out, save your session
[04:47] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: he shouldn't need that
[04:47] <tenco> twibbler: Bwl: i solved my problem with the atheros card now. installed restricted-modules from breezy
[04:48] <hopeng> clem_yeats, cant find it.. im in .gnome folder, couldnt find it
[04:48] <hopeng> thoreauputic, already tried that
[04:48] <thoreauputic> hopeng: what's happening is the session manager has saved those programs
[04:48] <jaqkar> anyone know squid well?
[04:48] <clem_yeats> hopeng : your in your /home/yourself/.gnome folder ?
[04:48] <hopeng> clem_yeats, yes
[04:48] <hmrocha> pitti,  i'll download the breezy live now
[04:48] <clem_yeats> hopeng : do a "ls -al" and past it in #bin
[04:48] <hopeng> ok
[04:50] <fellowshipofther> i have 2 pc's connected to a router that is connected to a modem.  Do the two pc's have separate ips?
[04:50] <jedipottsy> #cedega
[04:50] <hopeng> fellowshipofther, i think not
[04:50] <fellowshipofther> how would i access each one, i know the local ip's are different
[04:50] <ctp> on the internal LAN they have 2 ips
[04:50] <ctp> externally NO
[04:51] <hardw1re> you have to set your router to port forward to each one specifically
[04:51] <fellowshipofther> ctp, why not externally, is there a way to do it?
[04:51] <hopeng> fellowshipofther, you want to share files between them ?
[04:51] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: I've made the file, but running mplayer -ao alsa movie.avi will run once, but not twice (while with esd it does run twice, though out of sync)
[04:51] <ctp> fellowshipofther, no, because your ISP only provides you with one IP address
[04:51] <fellowshipofther> hopeng, yeah that would be nice too
[04:51] <ctp> fellowshipofther, why do you need 2 ips? there are ways around it
[04:52] <fellowshipofther> but i really want to be able to access the web server i have running on the one
[04:52] <fellowshipofther> and realVNC
[04:52] <ctp> OHHH well you can do that
[04:52] <hardw1re> you tell your router to port forward to that specific machine
[04:52] <ctp> you need to configure your router to point port 80 to the pc with the web server
[04:52] <hopeng> fellowshipofther, use firestarter, on policy, forward port 80 to the local httpd server
[04:52] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: sorry - I just had some bad news: I have to sign off
[04:53] <felipe_linux> Hi... I cant find /etc/apt/apt.conf or any apt.conf file in my Ubuntu 5.04 box. I am behind a proxy. Can anyone help me?
[04:53] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: Ah well take care, I'll try to figure this out
[04:54] <fellowshipofther> hopeng, that'll be another local ip? the httpd server?
[04:54] <ctp> felipe_linux, I don't have apt.conf on mine either, maybe you are looking for /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <ctp> fellowshipofther, no once you set up the router people can access your external ip like http://1.1.1.1 and it will go to the pc with the web serber
[04:54] <fellowshipofther> and i guess i can't change my router settings remotely =o(
[04:55] <ctp> yes you can
[04:55] <ctp> most routers let you access them by http
[04:55] <ctp> like http://192.168.0.1
[04:55] <ctp> or mine is http://192.168.1.254
[04:55] <ctp> if you look up your manual or the support website it should have instructions on how to access yours
[04:55] <Sly> mine runs on the 10.x.x.x range but yes identically
[04:55] <tenco> ctp: i use https because its a lan
[04:55] <tenco> s/lan/wlan/
[04:55] <ctp> then go into the NAT section
[04:55] <Digital_Warrior0> ok i am lost so dam lost nothing is where i expect it.
[04:56] <Sly> i could set mineup to access from remote dont the brightest move , but i have things i need to change away from home
[04:56] <dabar> In the Debian gnome-panel menu, it is possible to add and remove items by right clicking on them. This was also possible in Warty. Now it is disabled in Hoary. Is it possible to turn on this feature?
[04:56] <Digital_Warrior0> i need to set up ip forwarding, and alais
[04:56] <gpd> 3~3~/part
[04:56] <hopeng> fellowshipofther, httpd server is your web server
[04:56] <fellowshipofther> ctp, yeah those are local ip's though... im remote right now
[04:57] <Pac> ctp: thanks for that page it was brilliant
[04:57] <Pac> ctp: is there another good page other than http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:57] <fellowshipofther> ctp, and the ip is dynamic
[04:57] <hardw1re> hmm, can someone tell me how to get the c compiler properly configured, i got problems with installing some softwares, problems relating to C compilers :(
[04:58] <ctp> ctp: that's the best one i know of
[04:58] <fellowshipofther> ctp, well i have the current ip, i just dont think it wants to let me access it remotely
[04:58] <ctp> fellowshipofther, yeah but what i'm saying is, both your LOCAL machine share one EXTERNAL ip address
[04:58] <Sly> fellowship routers are not defalut setup to let you access the admins http page via wan
[04:58] <hopeng> fellowshipofther, sudo apt-get firestarter
[04:58] <hardw1re> you cant configure your router externally
[04:58] <fellowshipofther> ctp, yeah ur right, and that sux
[04:58] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: I know a bit about that.
[04:58] <ctp> what we're getting you to do is tell your router that all requests coming in on the EXTERNAL ip address are FORWARDED to your LOCAL machine with the web (httpd server)
[04:58] <Sly> you will have to set it up to let you access via wan when you are at it
[04:58] <hardw1re> you have to configure it from the LAN side
[04:59] <ctp> this way your LOCAL machine with its LOCAL ip can host a web server that the EXTERNAL ip address is forwarded to
[04:59] <Digital_Warrior0> could you pm me
[04:59] <ctp> what you want to do is possible, you just need to be able to access your router
[04:59] <dabar> I could, but lets do it in the channel, k?
[05:00] <dabar> maybe someone else would like to know...
[05:00] <Digital_Warrior0> wait one
[05:00] <dabar> kk
[05:00] <felipe_linux> ctp, the /etc/apt/source.list just list the repositories. I need to make apt work behind a proxy. Do you know how can I do that in Ubuntu?
[05:00] <Digital_Warrior0> sorry i was on the phone trying to get something else taken care off two much to track
[05:00] <Digital_Warrior0> ok lets do it
[05:00] <ctp> felipe_linux, sorry no i don't :(
[05:00] <mdke> does anyone know what to do with the current xorg blocker in breezy?
[05:01] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: what do you want done? I think IP forwarding/connection sharing I can tell you how to set up.
[05:01] <jbull> mdke:  what is the current xorg blocker?
[05:01] <Digital_Warrior0> let me explain in depth what i have going on and you can decide what is best.
[05:01] <zerboxx> Has anyone here setup dmix?  I'm having some problems
[05:02] <carthik> What do I have to do to get evolution to filter spam effectively?
[05:02] <carthik> Sorry if it's been asked before...
[05:02] <mdke> jbull, seems to be a conflict between libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa on the one hand, and libgl1-xorg-dri on the other
[05:02] <Karhuton> carthik, install spamassassin
[05:02] <carthik> Karhuton, and..?
[05:02] <Karhuton> carthik, It oughta work after that
[05:02] <carthik> Karhuton, is that all it takes?
[05:02] <carthik> Karhuton, thank you.
[05:02] <dabar> and take it from there...:)
[05:02] <Karhuton> carthik, just enable the spam filtering from Evolutions settings
[05:02] <jbull> mdke:  sounds ugly, although i have yet to run into it
[05:03] <Digital_Warrior0> i have a wireless network. one laptop xp one desktop xp one linux box ubuntu, is connect through. i have another pc accorss the house from the router and i am needing to connect it to the network, so i put the linux box next to it and installed a nic. i want to use the linux box as some sort of pass though so i can see the wired machine from the laptop.
[05:03] <Karhuton> carthik, And make sure spamassassin daemon is running
[05:03] <mdke> jbull, it appeared yesterday i believe, if you dist-upgrade you should see it
[05:03] <hopeng> how to turn on the 5.1 speakers using xmms ?
[05:03] <Karhuton> carthik, and restart evolution so that it finds it (if it doesn't check for it during runtime)
[05:03] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: ugh.
[05:04] <carthik> Karhuton, how do I make sure the daemon is running at bootup?
[05:04] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: what does "one laptop xp one desktop xp one linux box ubuntu, is connect through." mean?
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> sorry i knew it was not going to be fun
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> ok they are all on wireless
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> the other pc will not take a wireless card.
[05:04] <hardw1re> ooooh while im here... can someone tell me, how to stop ubuntu from recognising the mic on my webcam as a soundcard and defaulting the system to using that?
[05:04] <dabar> and they are all able to connecti to the Internet?
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> something about the mb will not let it post. i have tried several diff cards
[05:04] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:05] <Karhuton> carthik, it is by default. But I don't know if it is running after install
[05:05] <Sly> hardwlre very funny problem im sure =\
[05:05] <Digital_Warrior0> i am on the laptop right now
[05:05] <kemik> awh.. colorcoded my shellprompts :)
[05:05] <dabar> ok, and you want the linux to send an IP address to the only PC that is not yet connected to your network through a wire?
[05:05] <kemik> no more confusion on which box im using
[05:06] <dabar> Instead of the router.
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[05:06] <hardw1re> well it kinda sux, cause i want to try and get my webcam working, but if i leave it plugged in, then ubuntu sets it as the default sound device, and not my actual soundcard, which stops all sound stuff from working :(
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> i want to be able to access that other machine ie play a mp3 on it. see in network nebiorhood.
[05:06] <Digital_Warrior0> to ping it.
[05:06] <dabar> ok, one thing just to make clear first.
[05:07] <Sly> i wish i could help :(
[05:07] <Digital_Warrior0> i can get the 2000 box the wired one to see the eth0 and ra0 in the linux box but that is it
[05:07] <dabar> the three computers are online, and everything is fine with them, and so on, right?
[05:07] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:07] <hardw1re> samba support needed on windows innit?
[05:07] <dabar> so we can disregard the two xp boxes from now on, since they are not included in the part of the story we are discussing?
[05:07] <Karhuton> carthik, atleast even this new version of Evolution seems to "learn" from manually marked junk
[05:08] <Digital_Warrior0> ok
[05:08] <jaqkar> can anyone help me to setup a gateway and transparent proxy?
[05:08] <stizoner> if you have a router why arent u just runing everything through that?
[05:08] <dabar> and the router is not important really, so we could draw something like....
[05:08] <dabar> 2000----Ubuntu-----Internet?
[05:08] <Digital_Warrior0> yes all on the same privit network
[05:09] <Digital_Warrior0> ie 192.168.0.x
[05:09] <dabar> and the part from 2000 to Ubuntu works, cause you can ping back and forth between those two machines?
[05:09] <hmrocha> pitti, i rebooted the machine and it worked fine this time
[05:09] <paueas> how can i get sound juicer to make me mp3 files and allow me to set the bitrate?
[05:09] <pitti> hmrocha: with the breezy live?
[05:09] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:09] <jaqkar> !breezy
[05:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:10] <jaqkar> :)
[05:10] <dabar> Ok, I think all you need is two packages, Digital_Warrior0. install dnsmasq, and ipmasq. We may need a few more things from there, but maybe not even.
[05:11] <dabar> on the ubuntu, off course.
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> are they on the cd
[05:11] <dabar> I do not know, sorry.
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> ok
[05:11] <hardw1re> hmm im going to reboot
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> see the linux box can not be connect to the 2000 and the internet at the same time.
[05:11] <dabar> :)
[05:11] <dabar> he rebooted
[05:11] <Digital_Warrior0> it is like it does not know what to do
[05:12] <dabar> Well set that up next.
[05:12] <jaqkar> dabar: can you help me with a gateway/proxy setup im trying?
[05:12] <dabar> I do not know.
[05:13] <Scrawny1> hi all I'm back, anyway does anyone knowo of a "now playing" script for X-Chat?
[05:13] <dabar> they are not on the CD, Digital_Warrior0, can you access the Internet?
[05:13] <dabar> Oh, ya, you can.
[05:14] <dabar> Both packages are in Universe.
[05:14] <stizoner> visit xchat site Scrawny1 i found one there
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> i apprecate the help
[05:14] <dabar> sure.
[05:14] <dabar> sure you do...
[05:14] <dabar> heh
[05:14] <setite> what a real good pft view
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> in one min i will be able to
[05:14] <Scrawny1> sweet thank-you :)
[05:14] <setite> one that i can view two pages at once.. like in acrobat
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> have to reset all the networking and i do that be rebooting
[05:14] <Digital_Warrior0> it is still comming up
[05:14] <setite> this xpdf wont do that... the page change is odd
[05:14] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: are you rebooting linux?
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> yes have to
[05:15] <dabar> to change the network settings for eth0?
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> otherwise the wireless will not reconnect to the inter
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> no internet is on ra0
[05:15] <orutherfurd> could anyone give me a pointer on how to configure multiple monitor support?  I've got a laptop plugged into a docking station, w/an external monitor.
[05:15] <Digital_Warrior0> other pc is on eth0
[05:15] <orutherfurd> I was hoping it would just work, but that doesn't seem to be the case ;-)
[05:15] <dabar> ok, are you sure about this? tried sudo ifdown ra0, then sudo ifup ra0?
[05:15] <dabar> That should avoid you the reboot.
[05:16] <Digital_Warrior0> yep
[05:16] <Digital_Warrior0> for some reason it will not work
[05:16] <dabar> I think also the fact that you can not connect both at the same time is due to your /etc/network/interfaces eth0 entry having a gateway line.
[05:16] <dabar> you will paste that file after, if you want.
[05:17] <Digital_Warrior0> i will look at that
[05:17] <dieman> wow
[05:17] <dieman> that mirror in poland has some good bandiwdth
[05:17] <kemik> what about disabling eth0, bring down/up ra0 ? that wont let you connect either?
[05:17] <dieman> and they actually update their mirror, unlike the tds.net one, which seems out of date again
[05:17] <dieman> mmmm
[05:17] <dabar> orutherfurd: what graphics card?
[05:17] <dieman> 50megabits/sec from the mirror :)
[05:18] <kemik> dieman:  .pl is usually very poor.. guess you're just lucku
[05:18] <kemik> y
[05:18] <dieman> kemik: i2 bandwidth :)
[05:18] <dieman> kemik: from minneapolis, mn to the ftp.task.gda.pl is 50mbps
[05:18] <dieman> (usa)
[05:18] <dabar> kemik: ya, good idea, I mean, there is really nothing that you can not stop/start without rebooting...
[05:18] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me how to uninstall java? I think my version is a little buggy and I want to upgrade it
[05:18] <chicken_> hi every one
[05:18] <Digital_Warrior0> ok i am installin dnsmasq and ipmasq now
[05:19] <dabar> ndlovu: this will very much depend on how you installed it, so tell us how you had done that.
[05:19] <kemik> dieman:  yea i know my geography ;) heh... and i get poor speeds from .pl to .se .. go figure ;)
[05:19] <chicken_> my hard disk just lost all of it's data for some reason :-/
[05:19] <LilBlackDemon> ndlovu, if you used apt-get to install it,use synaptic and you should be able to uninstall the .deb java packages
[05:19] <hmrocha> pitti, no, with hoary, that was previously not working
[05:19] <Digital_Warrior0> ok where do i find ipmasq and dnsmasq
[05:19] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: did you get ubotu's message about pasting? when you can paste that /etc/network/interfaces file.
[05:19] <kemik> dieman:  maybe they're using QoS to american traffic so Bush won't invade.. heh :)
[05:19] <orutherfurd> dabar, Mobility Radeon 9600 M10 (according to lspci)
[05:19] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[05:19] <kemik> !pastebin
[05:19] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:20] <ndlovu> dabar: that's a little tricky. I _think_ I followed the ubuntuguide instructions, but I was tweaking quite a bit trying to get FreeMind to work.
[05:20] <kemik> Digital_Warrior0:
[05:20] <dieman> kemik: heh
[05:20] <kemik> ^ that link
[05:20] <chicken_> can some one tell me how i get X installed i got no Gnome at all
[05:20] <ndlovu> will try using synaptic and see what happens
[05:20] <dieman> kemik: its just because im on .edu networks, its all seperate from the internet links
[05:20] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0:  Universe is where they are. register your nick, /msg nickserv help register, and then /msg ubotu info package name, to find out about a package.
[05:20] <kemik> chicken_:  apt-get install "windowmanger", apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:21] <dieman> kemik: haha
[05:21] <mindamp> can i allow remote samba?
[05:21] <Digital_Warrior0> got in one min
[05:21] <dieman> kemik: the link from here to there goes via .se
[05:21] <dabar> ndlovu: you can likely just erase the files from where they are, something like /usr/java...
[05:21] <mindamp> i don't care about the security aspect...
[05:21] <orutherfurd> dabar, I should have been more specific earlier -- both monitors are working, but I see the same thing vs a larger desktop split across them
[05:21] <mindamp> i know under slackware it was defaulted for remote
[05:21] <dieman> kemik: minneapolis -> chicago -> nyc -> uk (geant) -> se -> pl
[05:21] <mindamp> anyone have experience with this?
[05:21] <hopeng> what is virtual desktop's shortcut ?
[05:21] <kemik> *shwr*
[05:22] <dabar> orutherfurd: not really for me, I dont know anything about it. I know it is mentioned on the ati wiki, at wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHOWTO/ati or so.
[05:22] <rapha> Hi all
[05:22] <rapha> Again :)
[05:22] <dabar> hopeng: where did you get this?
[05:22] <orutherfurd> dabar, thanks
[05:22] <rapha> Is there any console mail program that can do POP3 without a too difficult configuration=?
[05:23] <umboto> how do i change the ubuntu spash?
[05:23] <umboto> splash*
[05:23] <pitti> hmrocha: very odd - and you didn't change anything, like disabling dma, or not putting a CD-ROM into the drive?
[05:23] <Seveas> umboto: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[05:23] <dabar> umboto: more info.
[05:23] <umboto> okie
[05:23] <umboto> thanks
[05:23] <dabar> Seveas: that for the login splash?
[05:23] <dabar> for gnome.
[05:23] <umboto> yea
[05:23] <umboto> wherr the hell is gconfig
[05:23] <hmrocha> pitti, no, just rebooted
[05:23] <ndlovu> dabar: usr/java has jre 1.5.0, but java -version says java version "1.4.2-01";Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-01);Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-01, mixed mode)
[05:23] <umboto> lemme find it
[05:23] <dabar> ok, ya then that will work.
[05:24] <dabar> ndlovu: so you want the tiger Java, eh? :)...
[05:24] <pitti> hmrocha: I hate these heisenbugs... it got afraid of you wanting to debug it :-)
[05:24] <chicken_> Death to windows !!
[05:24] <hmrocha> pitti, :)
[05:24] <hmrocha> chicken_, death why?
[05:25] <chicken_> i don't like windows
[05:25] <chicken_> i hate windows
[05:25] <hmrocha> chicken_, and you want to kill all the people you hate too?
[05:25] <chicken_> errrm
[05:25] <dabar> ndlovu: you have a PPC by any chancve?
[05:25] <hmrocha> chicken_, you shouldn't kill something just because you hate it
[05:25] <sproingie> hm.  whenever i hear a windows person talk about TCO, i'm going to talk about TCP
[05:25] <umboto> im blind Seveas where is gconfig editor located?
[05:25] <dabar> he said death to it, not I will kill.
[05:25] <sproingie> Total Cost of Pwn3rsh1p
[05:25] <ndlovu> dabar :) any java will do at this stage, as long as it works... no ppc, using IBM thinkpad
[05:25] <chicken_> i am sure many people hate windows
[05:25] <hmrocha> chicken_, 90% of the world don't hate it
[05:25] <dabar> In Apps>System Tools, umboto.
[05:26] <umboto> thanks
[05:26] <chicken_> because 90% of the world are n00bs
[05:26] <umboto> ahh ok foudn it
[05:26] <umboto> thanks
[05:26] <hmrocha> chicken_, people say they hate windows because they want to *be* geeks
[05:26] <ndlovu> dabar: java is working, it just seems slower than on other machines, so I think it may be "confused"
[05:26] <chicken_> heh :P
[05:27] <sproingie> i only really hate windows when dealing with its slow filesystem ops
[05:27] <hmrocha> chicken_, windows is lame, linux is 1337
[05:27] <WhyvasMct> my wg511 (prismGT) card locks up on me after downloading a little bit, both lights go solid and the card is reset
[05:27] <dabar> ndlovu: erase that folder...install the java through the current Ubuntu way, using this web site: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java. Learn to love the wiki.
[05:27] <WhyvasMct> any ideas????
[05:27] <hmrocha> chicken_, when you stop hating windows and just looking at it as another piece of software that you should avoid, you're in another level
[05:27] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  does dmesg say anything useful?
[05:28] <WhyvasMct> yeah just a sec
[05:28] <chicken_> i always avoid it
[05:28] <hmrocha> chicken_, gamers don't
[05:28] <sproingie> process start overhead is also pretty abominable on windows ... makes shell scripting pretty tough
[05:28] <hmrocha> chicken_, web designers don't
[05:28] <hmrocha> chicken_, almost all of the world don't
[05:28] <sproingie> hmrocha: i don't know any web designers that like windows servers.  maybe windows to run dreamweaver
[05:29] <dabar> hmrocha: almost all of the world is lameos as well, you know that right? a very low margin of people have conciousness...
[05:29] <ndlovu> dabar: the wiki is already my friend and loving companion. the problem is that I didn't install it that way, and I'm confused because java -version says I have 1.4.2, but the java directory says 1.5.0...
[05:29] <hmrocha> sproingie, all the designers i know, don't know that a server is, they just use dreamweaver
[05:29] <sproingie> dabar: how much do you know about horses
[05:29] <hmrocha> sproingie, i'm talking about designers not web developers
[05:29] <dabar> nothing.
[05:29] <sproingie> dabar: shall i pronounce you a lame dweeb then?
[05:29] <aru> sproingie: could you code an OS better than windows?
[05:30] <chicken_> most people use it because bill gates pays off most of the game designers and software designes so his shitty OS has a lot of games and software so people use it
[05:30] <dabar> remove everything referencing java on your computer, and install the wiki way, is best I can tell you, ndlovu, it is bound to work great.
[05:30] <sproingie> dabar: how about combustion engine tuning?  how about metallurgy?  how about architecture, optics, medicine, law ...
[05:30] <ndlovu> thanks dabar, will see how it goes.
[05:30] <dabar> are you having a pont, sproingie?
[05:30] <hmrocha> dabar, almost all persons that use computers around the world, don't understand anything about them
[05:30] <setite> hey i cant dcc on konversation.. wtf
[05:30] <dabar> do yo uhave a pioint, rather.
[05:31] <chicken_> more people should use Linux and make things for it !
[05:31] <dabar> chicken_: we all dont like window, there is not much needed to tell us about it.
[05:31] <Digital_Warrior0> debar it told me about it but not where to get it
[05:31] <sproingie> dabar: i only have a point if you can see it
[05:31] <dabar> Or, prefer linux, no need to diss windows here, is my poiint.
[05:31] <hmrocha> dabar, people connected to computer science is really a small percentage compared to "normal" users
[05:31] <dabar> I can see some point that was not really related to what I was saying.
[05:31] <dabar> hmrocha: agreed.
[05:31] <aru> dabar: good point
[05:32] <chicken_> how do i use startx or where is it ?
[05:32] <dabar> It says section Universe. You need to add universe to your repositories, Digital_Warrior0.
[05:32] <Seveas> windows-bashing is a good reason to get kicked :)
[05:32] <dabar> DO you know about the ubuntu components, Digital_Warrior0?
[05:32] <sproingie> computer literacy of consumer OS's is to computer science what reading romance novels is to studying linguistics
[05:32] <Digital_Warrior0> not really
[05:32] <WhyvasMct> here's the output of dmesg http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pevPBb96.html
[05:32] <Sly> chicken you said everything u wanted to know about how to start x
[05:32] <dech> hmm my apt-get freezes at Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[05:32] <WhyvasMct> as soon as I start downloading it dies
[05:33] <chicken_> ??
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> sometimes it downloads 200K, sometimes it downloads 4-5 megs
[05:33] <aru> sproingie: can you just admit that windows isn't for you and let it go?
[05:33] <dech> all the ips are apparently 1.0.0.0 :P so something wrong heh
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> but it always locks up
[05:33] <hmrocha> Seveas, i don't use windows at home, but all the users at my college are stored in AD, so i have to live with windows
[05:33] <seife> hi
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> I tried diffrent firmwares and i even went out and got a diffrent card
[05:33] <seife> help
[05:33] <sproingie> aru: i'm amused at the people who think they're somehow elite because they know how to shell script on linux
[05:33] <WhyvasMct> same crap every time
[05:33] <hmrocha> Seveas, i just talked about windows because i get tired of people saying that they hate windows, but in the end, they install windows to play some game
[05:33] <seife> i am totally newb in linux
[05:33] <seife> never used it
[05:33] <tristanmike> hi
[05:33] <dabar> you can read if you want, its only one page. http://ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components . and also, you can read about adding repositories here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 . Digital_Warrior0
[05:33] <aru> sproingie: maybe you should check out #linux
[05:34] <stizoner> well problem with linux is you have programers making choices on human interaction with computers and user interface, when they have no qualifications 2 do so, its more of a scientific study, not a programing skill
[05:34] <Seveas> hmrocha, I talked to no one in particular
[05:34] <Seveas> just a general announcement
[05:34] <seife> i am going to install it into an separated HD, it has windows 98 on it. what u guys recommend me to do in general
[05:34] <Sly> at my college my tutor said he couldnt use linux because he needs word/excel..... i said open office he wasnt impressed... i went in following day after installing word/excel with crossover office, he didnt have a word to say =\
[05:34] <chicken_> i get an error when i run X
[05:34] <Sly> he now seems to ignore me
[05:34] <dabar> dech: if you did not get an answer yet, remove the us from the front of the sources.list
[05:34] <Sly> to now*
[05:34] <Digital_Warrior0> thanks
[05:34] <dabar> just have with no country seleted.
[05:34] <dabar> welcome, tell me when you are again stuck...
[05:34] <jbull> WhyvasMct: your're running hoary, yes?
[05:34] <Digital_Warrior0> dabar talk to digital_linux now i have x running on the linux box
[05:34] <WhyvasMct> yeah
[05:35] <WhyvasMct> it was doing the same thing in fedora core 4
[05:35] <dabar> kk.
[05:35] <tristanmike> does "Mark for Complete Removal" in Synaptic remove Dependencies Files too??
[05:35] <seife> HELP?
[05:35] <dabar> seife: sorry, was doing something else.
[05:35] <Ng> tristanmike: no
[05:35] <Ng> tristanmike: that just completely removes that package
[05:35] <dabar> give us some time...
[05:35] <Seveas> tristanmike, no
[05:35] <tristanmike> Ng, Merci Beaucoup
[05:35] <dabar> seife: it is a slower computer right?
[05:35] <Ng> tristanmike: normally removing a package will leave configuration files behind, compelte removal kills them too
[05:35] <Seveas> the next versions will remove unneeded dependencies
[05:35] <seife> no
[05:36] <tristanmike> Seveas, Merci Beaucoup as well
[05:36] <seife> 1.8ghz, ati7500, 512dimm
[05:36] <Ng> seife: that's a good plan
[05:36] <Ng> err
[05:36] <Ng> Seveas rather
[05:36] <sproingie> raskin used HCI studies to come out with the canon cat ...which put special keys in a place that interfered with the space bar
[05:36] <sproingie> hello hci, goodbye ergonomics
[05:36] <Seveas> tristanmike, debfoster is a good way to clean out unneeded dependencies :)
[05:36] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  what firmware are you running right now/have you tried in the past?
[05:36] <tristanmike> Ng, I just tried a program I'm not interested in so I just wann get rid of it
[05:36] <tristanmike> Seveas, run from the terminal??
[05:36] <WhyvasMct> i am running 1.0.4.3
[05:36] <tristanmike> Seveas, or is that a package?
[05:37] <Seveas> it's a package
[05:37] <dabar> seife: you will be asked whether you want to overwrite everything on the disk, so remember not to. Also, you will be asked whether you want to install grub onto MBR, the main boot record, so choose yes.
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> i tried 1.0.3.0 i think
[05:37] <Seveas> (and that package provides the debfoster command :)
[05:37] <tristanmike> Seveas, yeah, just looked, thanx uber-much
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> 1.0.4.3 used to work in debian
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> and in windows
[05:37] <tristanmike> You too Ng, thanx
[05:37] <WhyvasMct> so i am guessing it may be something to do with the router??
[05:37] <Ng> tristanmike: :)
[05:37] <dabar> Other than that, good luck, and dont follow every advice you see everywhere. Read the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com, and ubuntuforums.org for help. seife
[05:38] <WhyvasMct> how would i set the card into B mode only?
[05:38] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  afraid i won't be much help with that--i have the same card, running in breezy with no problems
[05:38] <WhyvasMct> crud
[05:38] <WhyvasMct> breezy is 5.10 ?
[05:38] <Seveas> yes
[05:38] <Seveas> !breezy
[05:38] <ubotu> breezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:39] <WhyvasMct> did you have it working in 5.4 ??
[05:39] <dabar> as well, register your nick for freenode, /msg nickserv help register as your message to the channel will tell you how to do that. seife. and then you can talk in private with our knowledgeable bot, ubotu, as so, /msg ubotu mp3 and he tells you how to install mp3 support./
[05:39] <jaqkar> can someone please  help me with a gateway/proxy setup im trying?
[05:39] <stizoner> they should recomend installing grub on a floppy for windows users as default action
[05:39] <dabar> jaqkar: please msg ubotu ask.
[05:39] <chicken_> ubuntu crashed :(
[05:39] <jbull> WhyvasMct:  didn't have the card then, so i don't know..
[05:40] <dabar> stizoner: really?
[05:40] <dabar> tell us moer.
[05:40] <WhyvasMct> ugh
[05:40] <WhyvasMct> i have a feeling it's the router....
[05:40] <token> is anyone related with wifi???
[05:40] <stizoner> because if they want to remove ubuntu there stuck with grub on mbr
[05:40] <kemik> token:  all my relatives are human. sorry
[05:40] <kemik> ;)
[05:41] <Seveas> stizoner, fixmbr from a windows bootdisk fixes that
[05:41] <token> ok
[05:41] <stizoner> and have to figure out how 2 remove it
[05:41] <dabar> aha. I get that part. SO that will work if you have the floppy in the hard drive? boots from that?
[05:41] <stizoner> yeah i know that, but its more work, its much easyier to pop a floppy in and take it out
[05:41] <token> have a problem ... cause i managed to set up inet for wifi in ubuntu ... but not for windows
[05:41] <dabar> stizoner: very cool piece of information. How do you specify this at install? fairly intuitively?
[05:42] <token> anyone using wifi here???
[05:42] <jaqkar> dabar: great thx, now im being asked "is it larger than a breadbox?"
[05:42] <dabar> !ask
[05:42] <dabar> see he dont listen to me in the channel.
[05:42] <kemik> !ask
[05:42] <stizoner> im no programer
[05:43] <dabar> ok. is that an answer to my question?
[05:43] <giard> that list for breezy makes it seem there isn't that much new
[05:43] <stizoner> dont know, just make /dev/fd0 the first recomended choice
[05:43] <WhyvasMct> !breezy
[05:43] <ubotu> it has been said that breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:43] <dabar> aha. ok.
[05:43] <WhyvasMct> is there a fast download link for breezy?
[05:43] <token> ok so i have an AP and this is directly connected to my pc and the AP is also connected to a hotspot ..... everything works well in ubuntu but not at all in windows
[05:43] <token> the AP has linux as OS
[05:43] <kemik> giard:  but i think there'll be a few more things due to the updates in gnome
[05:44] <jaqkar> pfft
[05:44] <hussam> how do I get floppy drives to mount in ubuntu. when I try to mount it, it says: "could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified"
[05:44] <jaqkar> i did !ask
[05:44] <chicken_> here is the error i get when i run X   Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed';  blah blah blah
[05:44] <kemik> token:  so if it doesnt work in windows, is that a question for #ubuntu ?
[05:44] <hmrocha> WhyvasMct, i downloaded the ISO in 3 minutes, so i guess there is one
[05:44] <stizoner> ohhh the 'blah blah blah' error :D
[05:44] <dabar> giard: in six months:)
[05:44] <token> no not really but it is still a problem
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone tell me where source packages are downloaded to when you 'apt-get source' them?
[05:45] <token> and problems are here to be solved
[05:45] <hmrocha> WhyvasMct, at least in my country
[05:45] <token> arent they kemik???
[05:45] <chicken_> any help ?
[05:45] <kemik> token:  yes, but you should ask in the appropiate forums/channels
[05:45] <Concord_Dawn> I want to know because I'm trying to pbuilder a tomcat package, which isn't in the repos.
[05:45] <dabar> jaqkar: good, now follow the advice, and tell us about the situation with some useful information.
[05:45] <token> u know one
[05:45] <kemik> #ubuntu isnt a windows-helpchannel
[05:45] <giard> dabar: yeah, I'm just spoiled... the diff between warty and hoary was huge
[05:45] <pont> Im using Hoary but cant seem to find the package containing X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h anyone know where this would be
[05:45] <chriszanf> hello
[05:46] <dabar> giard: you went to http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/ ?
[05:46] <token> ok ok ..... its in the name .... but perhaps the problem isnt on windows os but on linux OS on AP
[05:46] <chriszanf> i ve just installed Ubuntu [hoary]  and cant seem to suss what the SU pwd is
[05:46] <dabar> cause to me it looks pretty different already.
[05:46] <chicken_> is the a channel just for X problems ?
[05:46] <token> would this be a linux problem
[05:46] <giard> dabar: yeah
[05:46] <jaqkar> oki
[05:46] <chicken_> there8
[05:46] <token> kemik???
[05:46] <jaqkar> lets try again
[05:46] <chicken_> there*
[05:46] <dabar> chriszanf: there is none. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:46] <kemik> token:  well, you say it works in ubuntu so it seems to be a windows problem
[05:46] <kemik> well gtg eat
[05:47] <jaqkar> I am looking to configure my Ubuntu box as a proxy/gateway, I want traffic then from the Ubuntu box to go to the ISP's proxy. So my windows box will have the ubuntu box as default gateway and pass all traffic to it, the ubuntu box will send all traffic to the proxy of ISP. The ubuntu box only has one nic.
[05:47] <token> ok ... i guess i should search somewhere else
[05:47] <jbull> chicken_:  you running breezy?
[05:47] <token> :(
[05:47] <dabar> chicken_: there is a channel for not posting after your question so it would not scroll off the screen...
[05:47] <chriszanf> thx dabar
[05:47] <chicken_> jbull, nope
[05:47] <dabar> jaqkar: give me a sec, I may know how.
[05:47] <jbull> chicken_:  and you're getting an x error about the fixed font?
[05:48] <chicken_> jbull, yea
[05:48] <Whyvasmc> hmrocha, and that link is?
[05:48] <jaqkar> dabar: thx
[05:48] <jbull> chicken_:  what is that exact error again?
[05:48] <chicken_> i'll type it hang on
[05:48] <hmrocha> Whyvasmc, if you don't live in Portugal, you'll get very low speeds with that link
[05:48] <hmrocha> Whyvasmc, all the traffic is controlled
[05:49] <chriszanf> dabar - when the install first ran, I set various items up [screen res etc]  but then logged out to try and switch off the sound servers to install OSS [for my delta66 card]  but when I went to log back into root it wouldnt. is this all down to the page you linked?
[05:49] <stizoner> this channel should have like a bot setup where people take a number to ask a question, so that some questions arent passed by and its more organized, and a seperate ubuntu/kubuntu socieal channel would be cool to keep them seperate, just an idea
[05:50] <dabar> chriszanf: well...you could never log in as root had you not set it up, ubuntu just isnt set up for root logins. THrough the graphic login screen, gdm, or the shell.
[05:50] <riv> I used ctrl-alt-f3 to get to console... how do I get back to xwindows?
[05:50] <ctp> CTRL+ALT+F7
[05:50] <chriszanf> ah...ok.
[05:50] <chriszanf> thanks again
[05:50] <riv> ok, that's not working.
[05:50] <riv> so maybe it didn't start?
[05:50] <Concord_Dawn> When I add something to a user's crontab, do I have to do anything to start it? Or does it start by itself.?
[05:50] <ctp> yeah it might not be running
[05:50] <ctp> try startx
[05:50] <dabar> chriszanf: also, you gave me information that is not needed, so I kinda got lost in your sentence. as for root issues, that page tells it all, I think.
[05:50] <chicken_> here is the error i get when i run X   Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed';  The X server's font path might be misconfigured, remote font server(s) may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or or are not configured correctly
[05:50] <chriszanf> so all the screen res settings were lost down to not saving the session?
[05:51] <dabar> chriszanf: no idea.
[05:51] <dabar> jaqkar: ok, so, you have an Ubuntu that is connected to a modem?
[05:52] <jaqkar> dabar: i have a router and the and ubuntu behind it
[05:52] <dabar> chriszanf: resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto . the wiki has a search function.
[05:52] <riv> ctp: I startx and it just gives me a brown screen.
[05:52] <dabar> a router, eh? so, then there is a modem after the router?
[05:52] <riv> no cursor
[05:52] <riv> just brown
[05:52] <jbull> chicken_:  where does your xorg.conf say the fonts should be?
[05:52] <dabar> no cursor at all?
[05:52] <chriszanf> i have sussed that - the problem was when i logged out, the settings were not retained when i logged back in
[05:52] <chicken_> *checks*
[05:52] <jaqkar> dabar: router/modeom in one
[05:52] <dabar> ok, so ADSL?
[05:53] <ctp> thats weird, like gnome isn't launching
[05:53] <riv> dabar: not that I can see.... I move the mouse around and nothing
[05:53] <ctp> you need to add gnome-session to a file i just forget which one!
[05:53] <jaqkar> dabar: yes
[05:53] <riv> but it's a pretty but screen
[05:53] <dabar> jaqkar: is there an option to connect the windows computer to the router?
[05:53] <ctp> looks like your X is configured ok but your mouse settings are right
[05:53] <chicken_> jbull, where is the file meant to be ?
[05:53] <ctp> there's something about when you convert from XFree to Xorg where you have to change your mouse setting to /dev/input/mice
[05:54] <ctp> if you can find your mouse entry in xorg.conf and tell me what it says?
[05:54] <dabar> riv, your computer does not start gdm, eh?
[05:54] <jaqkar> dabar: internet > router > switch > win & ubuntu box
[05:54] <riv> it's starts up and then goes to brown screen.
[05:54] <jbull> chicken_:  which file? the fixed font file?
[05:54] <jaqkar> dabar: both are using the router now as default gateway
[05:54] <dabar> jaqkar: but for some reason you want the ubuntu to be the gateway for windows....
[05:54] <chicken_> jbull, no the xorg.conf
[05:55] <PAK_013> can I watch divx movies on iBook G3 300MHz 32MB ram memory with installed ubuntu and fluxbox  ???
[05:55] <dabar>  /etc/X11
[05:55] <dabar> PAK_013: have you installed the codecs?
[05:55] <jbull> chicken_:  /etc/X11, like dabar said
[05:55] <dabar> win32codecs, to be more specific.
[05:55] <jaqkar> dabar: yes because i want all traffic to go to isp proxy, so i want to config the win box to have ubuntu as default gateway and then i want ubuntu to forward all traffic to proxy of isp
[05:56] <chicken_> ahhh found it
[05:56] <chicken_> i was not looking lol
[05:56] <dabar> agreed.
[05:56] <stizoner> another idea about the channel: could also have the bot move people, if someone asks a question about a program they are using that happens to have a channel here then could just do !move channel and keep this room more clean for ubuntu questions
[05:56] <dabar> jaqkar: so, then, you can have ubuntu send out a IP to the windows...
[05:56] <PAK_013> dabar I didnt installed system yet... because I want first to know is my iBoog strong enough to play DixX ? What do you think, will it play DivX ?
[05:56] <chriszanf> ah..have another issue [sorry]  when trying to open package mngr, it opens and closes very quickly
[05:56] <dabar> jaqkar: go install ipmasq and dnsmasq from universe.
[05:57] <jaqkar> dabar: yes or can i keep static ip's?
[05:57] <dabar> I really do not know. why is nalioth no more in the channel?
[05:57] <chicken_> most the font paths are /usr/lib/X11/fonts/
[05:57] <dabar> you can have static IPs even with ubuntu telling you the IP. what is the IP you want, something like 192.***?
[05:58] <seife> yo help,how do i install mirc in linux?
[05:58] <chicken_> the local font server is  /unix:7100
[05:58] <dabar> seife: there are other programs. have you isntalled ubuntu yet?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> seife,  use a different irc client like xchat please.. :P
[05:58] <seife> man
[05:58] <seife> im afraid
[05:58] <seife> i have the HD on my hands
[05:58] <jaqkar> dabar: would like to keep a static ip on win box for now
[05:58] <seife> :'(
[05:58] <seife> i just have to unplug my windows HDs
[05:58] <seife> and plug this one
[05:58] <stizoner> xchat is easyier then mirc
[05:58] <seife> and start installing
[05:58] <PAK_013> seife use XChat ... it's great!
[05:59] <chicken_> irssi is the best :P
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> seife,  put them both in..  and install ubunto the 2nd one. and just dual boot.
[05:59] <seife> Dr_Willis i have two HDs.
[05:59] <jbull> chicken_:  seems to me like xorg is looking for your fonts in the wrong place--have you tried a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:59] <seife> plus this one
[05:59] <seife> well, 3 HDs
[05:59] <seife> 2 window HDs, and this empty one
[05:59] <chicken_> jbull, nope
[05:59] <dabar> jaqkar: what are the IPs like, 192.something?
[05:59] <jbull> chicken_:  give it a shot
[06:00] <chicken_> jbull, ok
[06:00] <dabar> PAK_013: email mspruell (at) gmail.com about the g3 performance, he uses that.
[06:00] <dabar> he wont miond, it seems.
[06:00] <seife> Dr_Willis: hello?
[06:00] <PAK_013> dabar thanks a lot!
[06:00] <chicken_> command not found
[06:01] <jaqkar> dabar: router/gateway>192.168.1.1 - win>192.168.1.20 - ubuntu>192.168.1.3
[06:01] <dabar> ok, that can be easily set up, the static part. jaqkar, have you installed the two packages I told you?
[06:01] <dabar> digital_linux: hows things going?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> seife,  yes?
[06:01] <chicken_> jbull, dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, did i type it rigt ?
[06:02] <dabar> sure
[06:02] <jbull> chicken_:  did you use sudo?
[06:02] <zerboxx> How can I stop esd from starting up?
[06:02] <dabar> dpkg
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, right*
[06:02] <chriszanf> when I open synaptic package manager - it close immediately.
[06:02] <riv> whoa
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, mope nit o am logged in as root
[06:02] <dabar> zerboxx: when you log in to gnome?
[06:02] <riv> sorry about that... lost connection
[06:02] <zerboxx> dabar: Yup
[06:02] <chicken_> jbull, nope but i am logged in as root*
[06:02] <dabar> chriszanf: I hate that program, it does similar things to me too...
[06:03] <chriszanf> is it better to install apps through shell, etc?
[06:03] <jaqkar> dabar: i installed the 2 packages
[06:03] <dabar> zerboxx: its in System Prefs, sound.
[06:03] <riv> ok, when I startx, I get just a brown screen.
[06:03] <zerboxx> dabar: Perfect, thanks
[06:03] <chriszanf> im about to install nvidia driversa ther try to srot dual#head
[06:03] <Zipher> Does the amd64 live cd support usb cdroms or sata cdroms?
[06:03] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone help me with restarting mysqld after it's crashed? I get the error shown here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1389
[06:03] <riv> dabar: sorry about that, system went dead
[06:03] <jbull> chicken_:  ah...what xorg version are you using?
[06:04] <dabar> chriszanf: not better, same, but synaptic seems still buggy in some things,. and I dont know how to fix it, so I learned command line apt-get, and aptitude
[06:04] <digital_linux> dabar,  sorry took so long had another call well i have ipmasq and dnsmasq installed
[06:04] <chriszanf> k - thanks
[06:04] <dabar> Riv: about what?...I dont know really.
[06:04] <chicken_> jbull, how do i find that out ?
[06:04] <dabar> that is fine digital_linux, Im here still...
[06:04] <riv> when I try to boot, or when I try to startx I just get a brown screen.
[06:04] <dabar> ok, you two bot have the packages installed now.
[06:05] <digital_linux> yes
[06:05] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone help me with restarting mysqld after it's crashed? I get the error shown here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1389
[06:05] <dabar> Concord_Dawn: sudo invoke-rc.d mysqld start, or restart
[06:05] <Concord_Dawn> thanks dabar
[06:05] <chicken_> Concord_Dawn, invoke-rc.d restart mysqld        ?
[06:06] <dabar> ok, well, you digital_linux have to paste that /etc/network/interfaces.
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> chicken_, the mysqld crashed while I was installing a kernel update.
[06:06] <digital_linux> one sec
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> dabar, when I try your command I get invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysqld not found.
[06:06] <zerboxx> how can I see my ram usage in the terminal?
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> zerboxx,  'free' command i think
[06:06] <Concord_Dawn> yup.
[06:06] <dabar> You dont have it installed through apt-get do you, Concord_Dawn?
[06:07] <chicken_> Concord_Dawn, invoke-rc.d mysqld start
[06:07] <Concord_Dawn> I do.
[06:07] <jbull> chicken_:  if you navigate to /usr/lib/X11/fonts are the fonts actually there?
[06:07] <dabar> zerboxx: top.
[06:07] <Concord_Dawn> I install most things through apt-get.
[06:07] <chicken_> jbull, *checks*
[06:07] <dabar> Concord_Dawn: ls /etc/init.d and see if you have mysqld there...
[06:07] <dabar> jaqkar: you need to set up your /etc/dnsmasq.conf, so open in with sudo gedit /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[06:07] <zerboxx> Dr_Willis, dabar: free was what I was looking for, but since it's so hight, now I'll use top :)
[06:08] <digital_linux> what is that addy that i need to past it at again
[06:08] <Concord_Dawn> dabar, I have mysql, but no mysqld
[06:08] <dabar> then staert that, Concord_Dawn.
[06:08] <chicken_> jbull, There is no font folder in there
[06:08] <dabar> !paste
[06:08] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:08] <dabar> also find out the ethernet MAC address of the windows, jaqkar.
[06:08] <jaqkar> dabar: open
[06:09] <jbull> chicken_:  there is no font folder in /usr/lib/X11 at all?
[06:09] <digital_linux> dabar, i am pasting in #flood
[06:09] <chicken_> jbull, Nope
[06:09] <ofer0> i want to compile everything i download from APT, how do i do it? comment everything in sources.list but the "deb-src" repos ?
[06:09] <gabriel> hi would you help me on hibernation?
[06:09] <Concord_Dawn> thanks a lot dabar
[06:09] <jbull> chicken_:  oh my...one sec.
[06:09] <hondje> ofer0: apt-get build-dep packagename will download the required deps to build it, then apt-get source -b packagename
[06:09] <ofer0> gabriel, i don`t think you need to do it. when you restart, you can just click "save all settings" or something, and it is just like hibernation in linux
[06:09] <dabar> ok, well, scroll through it a little,  uncomment that. commented out means # is in front of the line. jaqkar.
[06:09] <chicken_> jbull, lol
[06:10] <ofer0> dabar, are you sure?
[06:10] <hondje> But you not going to be able to recompile everything without serious efforts, ubuntu isn't a source distro
[06:10] <ofer0> hondje, thanx :) can i compile my kernel and gnome that way ?
[06:10] <neil> Hi
[06:11] <zenlunatic> I am running powerpc hoary. sometimes my machine turns off for no apparant reason. any ideas?
[06:11] <jaqkar> dabar: uncomment what?
[06:11] <hondje> make-kpkg is better for the kernel, but you could redo gnome that way. Don't know why you would, but it can be done
[06:11] <dabar> ofer0: about what, I am not sure I talked to you at all.
[06:11] <riv> is anyone good with xwindows problems?
[06:11] <chicken_> zenlunatic, turn it back on :P
[06:11] <gabriel> oferg, but i would like to keep a windows xp session open on ubuntu trough vmware
[06:11] <dabar> jaqkar: that message was edited, so it does not make sense...mine, that is above.
[06:11] <riv> I just get a brown screen when I startx
[06:11] <zerboxx> Dr_Willis: I'm hoping you know, but does this make sense.. "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1390"
[06:12] <gabriel> oferg, that's why i would like hibernation to work
[06:12] <jbull> chicken_:  you're running hoary, yes? see if the fonts are in any of these directories (if they exist): /usr/share/X11/fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
[06:12] <reiki_work> I have Spamassassin working with Evolution. If anyone is interested and wants directions I'll post a URL. It's a little slow so I wouldn't recommend it for people getting hundreds of email at the same time. Any better solution I'd love to hear about it
[06:12] <chicken_> jbull, ok
[06:12] <dabar> riv, sudo rm /tmp/*
[06:12] <jaqkar> dabar: oki ive got dnsmasq.conf open
[06:12] <riv> ok, anyone know where to find errors from xwindows?
[06:12] <dabar> that may help you.
[06:12] <ofer0> hondje, i heard that ubuntu compiled with 386 processor in order the distro to work well on 386, 486, 586 and 686 computers. if ill compile it using my 686 processor, it will be much optimized
[06:13] <riv> an error log?
[06:13] <dabar> jaqkar: how about that MAC address?
[06:13] <scoperesolution> I need help getting my wireless card working in ubuntu
[06:13] <neil> If something is not in the repositories, how do I install it?  From source or rpms?
[06:13] <jbull> scoperesolution:  what kind of card is it?
[06:13] <scoperesolution> its a microsoft mn-720
[06:13] <hondje> The difference would be minimal
[06:13] <dabar> reiki_work: post it to the forums, I think.
[06:13] <scoperesolution> I was told to use mdiswrapper
[06:13] <scoperesolution> but its not working
[06:13] <chicken_> jbull, there is no X11 folder in /usr/share
[06:13] <jbull> chicken_:  ok, and the other folder
[06:14] <jaqkar> dabar: got it
[06:14] <chicken_> jbull, where was the other folder you asked me to look in ?
[06:14] <dabar> riv, so try that, and then startx, that may well help.
[06:14] <jbull> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
[06:14] <dabar> jaqkar: good, let me open that conf file.
[06:14] <reiki_work> dabar: uh.... forums.... forums.... where? There's official ones?
[06:15] <ofer0> hondje, ok. one more question. in ubuntuforums, somebody published a "howto" compile the kernel yourself. it says something about downloading kernel-headers - but i never saw output of gcc, and i do see it when i compile regular packages thru APT. was i compiling it ?
[06:15] <dabar> ubuntuforums.org, which google could have told you, reiki.
[06:15] <riv> dabar: I did that... same problem.
[06:15] <hondje> ofer0: apt will make a .deb file, then you know it's done
[06:15] <chicken_> jbull, no fonts folder in there as well :-<
[06:15] <dabar> and you are using gnome, I take?
[06:15] <reiki_work> dabar: no offense, but I've seen several obuntu forums... wanted to make sure I was posting into the right ones. :)
[06:15] <dabar> really several? hm...I dont know if those are official.
[06:15] <ofer0> hondje, ok, thanx.
[06:16] <dabar> they are the ones I know about.
[06:16] <hondje> ofer0: I never read a kernel compiling how-to, so I don't know....frankly I'm too lazy to rebuild mine, no benefits for me since everything I have is supported
[06:16] <jaqkar> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[06:16] <jbull> scoperesolution:  try this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[06:16] <dabar> jaqkar: ok, open http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1391 .
[06:16] <riv> What is DRIScreenInit??
[06:16] <gabriel> on the net i have found that hibernation works on my laptop but there is a solution to hiberation. unload fglrx. but when i give the command rmmod fglrx i get the answer fglrx doesn't exist in /proc/modules that's because i have a ati radeon 9700 ?
[06:16] <jbull> chicken_:  hm..distressing...you're running the most current hoary?
[06:16] <cyphase> what are some wireless cards that your using with ubuntu?
[06:16] <dabar> its a config file. jaqkar, so , it has those instructions telling you what which does.
[06:17] <chicken_> jbull, 5.04 server install
[06:17] <dabar> jaqkar: will you plug the windows into the ubuntu?
[06:17] <jaqkar> dabar: open
[06:17] <dabar> or you said one NIC?
[06:18] <HeXiOn> Hi
[06:18] <jaqkar> dabar: plug?
[06:18] <jbull> chicken_:  and this x error is a recent occurrence?
[06:19] <chicken_> jbull, installed X just 10 minutes ago
[06:19] <scoperesolution> jbull, ever used mdiswrapper?
[06:19] <dabar> will you connect the windows to the Ubuntu machine, by plugging an ethernet cord into the ubuntu from windows, or did you say you have one NIC in the ubuntu PC
[06:19] <MorphDK> Hey.. When I'm doing an apt-get upgrade, it tells me that mozilla-firefox has been kept back.. Why?
[06:19] <chicken_> jbull, and installed ubuntu 20 minutes ago
[06:19] <dabar> MorphDK: did you try apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:19] <jbull> scoperesolution:  no, i'm afraid not
[06:19] <HeXiOn> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. It doesnt recognize my SATA drive. I have been searching and found a module in the chipset's web for kernel 2.6.8. Its a file called sata_uli.c  What must I do in the installation process to load it???
[06:19] <scoperesolution> jbull, ok thanks
[06:20] <jaqkar> dabar: one nic in ubuntu. win, ubuntu and router connected via switch
[06:20] <dabar> ndiswrapper.
[06:20] <gabriel> morphdk if you use synaptic it updates firefox too with no problem
[06:20] <dabar> aha, a switrch, right, sorry.
[06:20] <MorphDK> gabriel, nope
[06:20] <scoperesolution> got any clue where I can find the kernel source without having apt-get working, since I dont have a vaild network connection anymore
[06:20] <MorphDK> dabar, no I didn't
[06:20] <dabar> same as here...now you have to tweak that dnsmasq.conf
[06:20] <gabriel> have you tried refreshing the packages?
[06:21] <HeXiOn> can someone help me?
[06:21] <jbull> chicken_:  if you run "locate fonts | grep X11" without the quotes, what shows up?
[06:21] <HeXiOn> can someone help me?
[06:21] <HeXiOn> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. It doesnt recognize my SATA drive. I have been searching and found a module in the chipset's web for kernel 2.6.8. Its a file called sata_uli.c  What must I do in the installation process to load it???
[06:21] <dabar> jaqkar: find this part: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1392 .
[06:21] <beniamino_> anyone know anything about freezes using SMP kernels (hoary)?
[06:22] <dabar> jaqkar: remove the # from the last line, replace the MAC address with the windows one, and replace the IP shown there with the .20 one that you want.
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> dabar ok one i took out the gateway from eth0 my wireless stoped working.
[06:22] <beniamino_> just installed 5.04 on a dual xeon.  am getting random freezes with both 2.6.10smp and 1.6.11smp kernels
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> dont know y but i do not have acess to the net any more
[06:22] <dabar> well, did you again restart as before?
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> if i ping it trys pining with the eth0 ip
[06:22] <HeXiOn> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation. It doesnt recognize my SATA drive. I have been searching and found a module in the chipset's web for kernel 2.6.8. Its a file called sata_uli.c  What must I do in the installation process to load it???
[06:22] <Digital_Warrior0> no, doble checkd every thing then yes
[06:23] <chicken_> jbull, locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: no such file or directory
[06:23] <dabar> aha. and when you put back the gateway, does it work again?
[06:23] <pestilence> is there anybody in here who knows enough about ifconfig to tell me why i have to sleep 5 for certain things (e.g. mii-tool and arping) to work properly?
[06:24] <dabar> jaqkar: then you need to find this part, and set that up too: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1393 .
[06:24] <mrstarkweather> hey, does anyone know how the hell I install and RUN gstreamer so I can play .mp3 files???
[06:24] <chicken_> jbull, A.k.A : locate not working
[06:24] <gabriel> cyphase, ipw2200 b/g card
[06:24] <jbull> chicken_:  run updatedb as root
[06:25] <kevor> When i change my display settings with xrandr they are not saved, when i logout and login again my settings are ALWAYs on the highest...
[06:25] <mrstarkweather> ok...thanks...but how do I log in as the "root user"???
[06:25] <chicken_> jbull, command not found
[06:25] <Digital_Warrior0> dabar yes it does
[06:25] <Digital_Warrior0> does it matter what order they are listed in interfaces
[06:26] <chicken_> jbull, no it works just typed it wrong
[06:26] <gabriel> does anybody know how to unload vesa drivers=?
[06:26] <chicken_> jbull, what does that do ?
[06:26] <Kalquaro> Hi guys. I've got a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and I was trying the Ununtu Live CD. When it loads the GUI, I hear the "welcome sound" but my screen stays black. Is there any known issue regarding that problem?
[06:26] <jbull> chicken_:  creates the file that locate was complaining about not existing
[06:27] <chicken_> jbull, ahhhhh
[06:27] <chicken_> jbull, *trys again*
[06:27] <riv> Kalquaro: I'm having similar issues
[06:28] <riv> on my gateway laptop
[06:28] <chicken_> jbull, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts :-D
[06:28] <jbull> chicken_:  is that it?
[06:28] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: I am reading something up. You can join me. sudo gunzip /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz then gedit /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces
[06:28] <riv> I'm looking at the xwindows logfile to see if there's anything useful there.
[06:29] <jaqkar> dabar: the last one -http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1393
[06:29] <chicken_> jbull, there are 3 .a files in there
[06:29] <dabar> ya?
[06:29] <jaqkar> dabar: im not using dhcp so do i still need that?
[06:29] <Kalquaro> riv: I don't know if this could be related to the graphic card... Mine is a Mobile Inter 915 Express.
[06:29] <jbull> chicken_:  no, no I mean is that the only output you get from locate?
[06:29] <dabar> You are using dhcp in fact internally.
[06:29] <Kalquaro> Inter = intel, sorry
[06:29] <dabar> the first one you did will make dhcp give the same IP address to teh windows M<AC address, however.
[06:29] <jaqkar> dabar: im using static ip's
[06:30] <dabar> ya, I know.
[06:30] <chicken_> jbull, the all go to the same place /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/font/
[06:30] <riv> Kalquaro: No idea.  But the logfile is at /var/log/Xorg.log
[06:30] <digitalfox> what did the recent update to the kernel in Hoary add/fix?
[06:31] <jbull> chicken_:  ok...try just a simple "locate fonts"
[06:31] <gabriel> hwy gabriel
[06:31] <gabriel> gabriel
[06:31] <chicken_> jbull, ok
[06:31] <jaqkar> dabar: so i will use dhcp now from ubuntu - mean ubuntu will act as dhcp?
[06:31] <selinium_> any bluetooth wizaerds around?
[06:31] <chicken_> jbull, there all in /usr/share/fonts
[06:31] <gabriel> anybody knows how to unload vesa drivers?
[06:31] <dabar> yes, that is correct.
[06:31] <Kalquaro> To be honnest I'm new to linux, I've been a Dos / Windows user for years now. I don't even know if I can try to boot using the text only mode.
[06:32] <jbull> chicken_:  seems like the fonts for X aren't installed...i don't know how that happened
[06:32] <chriszanf> tryiung to install LAMP setup - using apt-get and following pages in wiki but when I do "apt-get install php4-mysql" its saying package does not exist - any help?
[06:32] <dabar> jaqkar: set those up now.
[06:33] <riv> Kalquaro:  ctrl-alt-f3 will put you in text mode
[06:33] <chicken_> jbull, what is the normal package to install X ?
[06:33] <dabar> chriszanf: add repositories. /msg ubotu repos
[06:33] <jbull> chicken_:  is the package xfonts-base installed?
[06:34] <chriszanf> where do I do that?
[06:34] <jbull> chicken_:  xserver-xorg
[06:34] <jaqkar> dabar: done
[06:34] <dabar> jaqkar: then, sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart .
[06:34] <jaqkar> dabar: save file?
[06:34] <dabar> save file first, yes.
[06:34] <riv> in xwindows, what key combination changes resolutions?
[06:34] <dabar> then set up the windows for a dynamic IP with DHCP. Know how?
[06:35] <chicken_> jbull, don't think i had xfonts-base *downloading*
[06:35] <jaqkar> dabar: done
[06:35] <tgnx> i installed ubuntu yesterday. after installing the base system i went to install the binary ati drivers via apt-get however the version that was installed with this was too old for my chipset. i then downloaded the newest drivers from ati and installed them. i have those new drivers installed and working with 2d but cannot get dri to work. the X log files complain about the kernel module not matching with the driver version
[06:35] <jbull> chicken_:  hopefully that'll solve the problem *crosses fingers*
[06:36] <dabar> set up windows for a dynamic IP with dhcp, jaqkar?
[06:36] <chicken_> jbull, hehe :-P i should write a book on this lol
[06:36] <jaqkar> dabar: oki
[06:36] <dabar> if you dont know hwo, I have a link.
[06:36] <jaqkar> dabar: ok one thing my router is also setup for dhcp although im using static, so id prob need to disable that first
[06:37] <chicken_> jbull, good thing i have broadband it's 14.6MB
[06:37] <dabar> jaqkar: dont yet.
[06:37] <dabar> Digital
[06:37] <tgny>  i installed ubuntu yesterday. after installing the base system i went to install the binary ati drivers via apt-get however the version that was installed with this was too old for my chipset. i then downloaded the newest drivers from ati and installed them. i have those new drivers installed and working with 2d but cannot get dri to work. the X log files complain about the kernel module not matching with the driver version
[06:37] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: which gateway did you remove, the one from ra0, or from eth0, or both?
[06:38] <jaqkar> dabar: how will windows know where to get the ip from as there are 2 dhcp servers now
[06:38] <chriszanf> dabar chriszanf: add repositories. /msg ubotu repos   <== where?
[06:38] <jbull> chicken_:  agreed
[06:38] <Digital_Warrior0> yes dbar
[06:38] <dabar>  repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:38] <dabar> !ask the bot
[06:38] <ubotu> somebody said ask the bot was to get information about common things, try asking me, the bot. You can private message me if your nick is registered(/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER) you can private message me, by using /msg ubotu mp3, for example.
[06:38] <Digital_Warrior0> eth0
[06:38] <Digital_Warrior0> is the one i removed
[06:38] <chriszanf> thx dabar!
[06:38] <chicken_> jbull, *installing*
[06:38] <kelsey> How do I open ports 43594 and 43595 for inbound and outbound TCP traffic?
[06:39] <dabar> which is completely weird that would affect ra0.
[06:39] <Digital_Warrior0> ya it is
[06:39] <Digital_Warrior0> let me try someting and i will get back to you
[06:39] <dabar> ya, cool.
[06:39] <apokryphos> kelsey: look for something like "Virtual Servers" or something in your Router's Browser setup, and enable the ports from there
[06:39] <kelsey> anyone?
[06:39] <dabar> jaqkar: good question, let us think abotu that, after we try whether it works like this.
[06:39] <Digital_Warrior0> i hate it when it does not work the 3rd time
[06:39] <kelsey> thank you
[06:39] <chicken_> jbull, ok time to test it :) wish me luck every one
[06:39] <dabar> kelsey: on a erouter?
[06:40] <kelsey> it goes from etherent card to gatway to phone line (DSL)
[06:40] <jaqkar> dabar: let me disable dhcp on router since im not using it now
[06:40] <gabriel> does anybody know whitch of these modules could be my grafic card ? ide-cd ide-disk ide-generic lp mousedev psmouse sbp2 sr_mod apm
[06:40] <kelsey> i mean gateway
[06:40] <dabar> You will not get an IP on ubuntu.
[06:40] <jaqkar> dabar: need to reboot stupid router then to apply changes
[06:41] <dabar> if you disable DHCP on the router.
[06:41] <dabar> Or maybe you will, dunno about the routers that much.
[06:41] <dabar> and static IPs and that.
[06:41] <chriszanf> sorry dabar - not used mirc b4
[06:41] <plagerism> how would I could about setting LC_ALL globally??
[06:41] <dabar> chriszanf: sorry why?
[06:41] <prower> gabriel: None of those, as far as I can see
[06:41] <jaqkar> dabar: ok im confused
[06:41] <dabar> its a learning experience.
[06:41] <dabar> jaqkar: I am too.
[06:42] <chriszanf>  repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:42] <chriszanf> dabar !ask the bot
[06:42] <jaqkar> dabar: we setup ubuntu now to give ip;s
[06:42] <chicken_> jbull, well it did work but i had to force it to shutdown because it would not let me go to the terminal
[06:42] <dabar> chriszanf: ask the bot is a good thing to learn.
[06:42] <jbull> chicken_:  more error msgs?
[06:42] <dabar> let us restart that server, and see how it all works out, after you set up windows for a dynamic IP.
[06:42] <jaqkar> dabar: ok lemmi test
[06:42] <chicken_> jbull, a few but i do not think they will be much of a priblem
[06:42] <Digital_Warrior0> ok that is funn as i reoobted and x was starting i got a ping from ra0 then droped it
[06:43] <chicken_> jbull, problem*
[06:43] <jbull> chicken_:  ok, good luck
[06:43] <chicken_> jbull, Thanks :-D
[06:43] <gabriel> prower thanks. i need to unload fglrx module whitch should be for the ati radeon card that i have to activate hibernation. but i have ho fglrx module loaded in etc/modules/ what could that be then?
[06:43] <zerokarmaleft> why doesn't mono in backports ship with nunit?
[06:44] <riv> anyone know how to change xwindows resolution from commandline?
[06:44] <dabar> jaqkar: you are going to leave ubuntu as is, and set up windows for a dynamic IP using DHCP. Then you are going to try to connect with the windows, and tell me whether you get the .20 IP address.
[06:44] <mdke> how does one apply a patch to a kernel?
[06:44] <dabar> jaqkar: as I see it annyhow.
[06:45] <chicken_> How do i make X let me switch to a terminal ?
[06:45] <dabar> zerokarmaleft: hav eyou asked this at the forums?
[06:45] <chicken_> by using alt + F1 - F6
[06:45] <chriszanf> ubotu: repos
[06:45] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:45] <dabar> alt+ctrl+f4
[06:45] <Determinist> how can i remove the ATI drivers i've installed?
[06:46] <dabar> chriszanf: ya, that works too, but if you ask him in private, we dont see it, and can chat here easier.
[06:46] <chicken_> X won't let me use alt F1 - F6
[06:46] <dabar>  alt+ctrl+
[06:46] <zerokarmaleft> dabar, somebody already did
[06:46] <chicken_> oooops i mean alt + ctrl + F1 - F6
[06:47] <_BIJ_> anyone knows how to update ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 without a complete reinstall?
[06:47] <Digital_Warrior0> now that is funny
[06:47] <Digital_Warrior0> \i can now see the net but cant see the other machine
[06:47] <dabar> zerokarmaleft: ok, good.
[06:48] <dabar> ok, on the linux?
[06:48] <ZincX> 5.10 is out ?
[06:48] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: on the linux?
[06:48] <Digital_Warrior0> yes
[06:48] <_BIJ_> 5.10 colony 3
[06:48] <chicken_> what do i do so X lets me use ctrl + alt + F1 - F6 ?
[06:48] <Digital_Warrior0> it is like it will only take one ip
[06:48] <ZincX> oho.. beta aen ?
[06:49] <Digital_Warrior0> but i had it working before to where on linux i could be on the net and see the other pc
[06:49] <plagerism> Hey I just upgraded to breezy for testing purposes.  Is there a known bug with python 2.4 regarding locales??  I found a similar bug report on a debian changelog
[06:49] <mdke> _BIJ_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace each instance of "hoary" with "breezy"
[06:49] <jaqkar__> oki back
[06:49] <Digital_Warrior0> let me see somehting
[06:49] <dabar> Nono, we'll fix that, Digital_Warrior0. so, now you can see the Internet with the wireless, great, what did you do?
[06:49] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, don't update yet, you'll have problems
[06:49] <_BIJ_> hmm oki...
[06:49] <_BIJ_> hmrocha, but i really want to try...
[06:49] <dabar> oki, jaqkar__
[06:49] <mdke> _BIJ_, you can do it, but if you want a stable working system, don't do it
[06:50] <jaqkar__> dabar: weird thing now
[06:50] <mdke> _BIJ_, if you just want to try it for fun, do it
[06:50] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, change all repositories from hoary to breezy
[06:50] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, then, "sudo apt-get update"
[06:50] <jaqkar__> dabar: win get ip, must be from ubuntu because it get default gateway as 192.168.1.3 which is ubuntu box
[06:50] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:50] <_BIJ_> ok thanx i'll try... just 4 fun
[06:51] <hmrocha> _BIJ_, after the upgrade you'll come here and say "X stoped working, what can i do?"
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: win gets ip 192.168.1.8
[06:51] <mdke> who can tell me how to apply a patch to kernel source?
[06:51] <dabar> but you set up that one line I told you?
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: not .20 as specified
[06:51] <dabar> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1392
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: yes
[06:51] <chicken_> when i try startx it says command not found ?
[06:51] <Digital_Warrior0> ok dabar it looks like i can only use one interface at a time
[06:51] <jaqkar__> dabar: i setup both
[06:51] <dabar> ya, weird, but goes to the Internet?
[06:51] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to open .vnc files??
[06:52] <dabar> that would be very strange, Digital_Warrior0
[06:52] <dabar> what did you do to get online?
[06:52] <dabar> jaqkar__ your windows can get online?
[06:52] <ZincX> hey... 2.6.11 is out aen ?
[06:53] <_BIJ_> hmrocha, do you think that the x-server will stop working?
[06:53] <mdke> _BIJ_, it is likely
[06:53] <jaqkar__> dabar: no
[06:54] <dabar> jaqkar__: you cant get online?
[06:54] <jaqkar__> dabar: if i check ipconfig it shows its got an ip
[06:54] <mdke> _BIJ_, if you are an experienced Ubuntu or debian user you will be able to fix it, but otherwise, you can look on the forums for help
[06:54] <Dr_Melectaus> im trying to install some packages, and it asks me to put the ubuntu install disc in. When i do so and attempt to mount it i get an error message saying "mount: can't open /etc/mtab for writing: Input/output error". Can anyone help me sort it out?
[06:54] <dabar> but you can get online with it, eh?...hm...
[06:54] <jaqkar__> dabar: but in windows its trying to aquire ip address
[06:54] <Digital_Warrior0> took out the gateway out of eth0 ifdown everyting and then ifup ra0 then ifup eth0
[06:54] <_BIJ_> oh shit... hmm
[06:54] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: which gets you online, good.
[06:55] <dabar> ifconfig, Digital_Warrior0
[06:55] <dabar> tell me if there is a eth0 entry, and paste it.
[06:55] <jaqkar__> dabar: no it wont get online
[06:55] <dabar> not here, right...
[06:55] <dabar> jaqkar__: lets do the following then, I guess..
[06:55] <Digital_Warrior0> ok hear is one for you i just ifdown eth0 and on the windows box i am getting a relpy now
[06:55] <jaqkar__> what is the conf file again so i can check it
[06:55] <mdke> _BIJ_, it's good fun to learn how to fix these things, but if you don't have the time or don't want to have that problem, don't upgrade
[06:56] <dabar> open that config file again. /etx/dnsmasq.conf
[06:56] <dabar> etc
[06:56] <jaqkar__> k
[06:56] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: ? heh, so now it connects to the networkl?
[06:56] <ZincX> dabar, what if i wanted to update from 2.6.10-5 to 2.6.11-1
[06:56] <ZincX> ?
[06:57] <dabar> ZincX: no idea.
[06:57] <dabar> jaqkar__: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1394 set that up.
[06:57] <Digital_Warrior0> what do you want to know out of ifconfig
[06:57] <ZincX> oh? k
[06:57] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: is it working now?
[06:58] <ZincX> dabar, im facin sum prblems wen im compiling an ircd ...
[06:58] <dabar> speak in english.
[06:58] <Digital_Warrior0> not at the same time
[06:58] <dabar> aha.
[06:58] <Digital_Warrior0> ifconfig shows it as being up but i can not ping it
[06:58] <dabar> well. tell me again, you shut down eth0, and can get online, and ping the 2000 box ??
[06:59] <Digital_Warrior0> linux is connect to the internet that is it
[06:59] <ZincX> me ?
[06:59] <Flonne> ZincX, several IRCds already reside in the various Ubuntu repositories. Could you mention its name?
[06:59] <dabar> jaqkar__: then you will need to reboot all machines, everything. You wont really need to, but  want you to see what happens when you reboot everything. Shut down the modem, and the computers, leave it off for a minute(praying is a good activity during this time...)
[06:59] <Digital_Warrior0> no
[06:59] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know a good bandwidth metering program?
[06:59] <ZincX> Flonne, the ircds on ubuntu repositories are not updated.. i am trying to run ircu.. but i am facing some problems with some AC thingy
[06:59] <Digital_Warrior0> if ra0 is down i can ping the 200 box but not the internet if ra0 up eth0 up i can get on internet but can not ping eth0
[06:59] <dabar> then turn on the router, and modem thingie, and then after it gets solid lights on it, turn on the ubuntu. When everyuthing is booted, turn on the windows.
[07:00] <jaqkar__> dabar: just noticed something
[07:00] <dabar>        
[07:01] <Flonne> ZincX, in what stage does the error occur? If it's configuring, you may have an unsatisfied dependency.
[07:01] <jaqkar__> dabar: where i had to put the mac address
[07:01] <dabar> right.
[07:01] <jaqkar__> dabar: in windows its xx-xx-xx-xx
[07:01] <dabar> did you uncomment?
[07:01] <ZincX> Flonne, there is a little problem when configuring
[07:01] <dabar> ya
[07:01] <jaqkar__> dabar: in the conf it needs xx:xx:xx:xx
[07:01] <dabar> same crap.
[07:02] <ZincX> that happens sometimes
[07:02] <jaqkar__> dabar: gonna fix it now
[07:02] <dabar> aha
[07:02] <John> where is the archive modprobe.conf?
[07:02] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try start x ???
[07:02] <dabar> ok, ya, set it up as said in the conf file.
[07:02] <ZincX> but if the configuring is correct.. then the problem arises when i make
[07:02] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: um...
[07:02] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try startx ???
[07:02] <ZincX> ircd@net:~/ircu2.10.11.07+MChat$ make
[07:02] <dabar> get both interfaces up for a second.
[07:02] <ZincX> cd . && autoconf
[07:02] <ZincX> configure.in:120: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross compiling
[07:02] <dabar> then paste the ifconfig output, plaeas..
[07:03] <Digital_Warrior0> ok one min let me log back in
[07:03] <dabar> sure
[07:04] <jaqkar__> dabar: what was cmd to restart?
[07:04] <Digital_Warrior0> connecting be there in a min
[07:04] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try startx ???
[07:04] <dabar> any server on ubuntu and debian can be restarted by invoke-rc.d servername restart
[07:05] <dark^ngel> Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page -- wuzzat?
[07:05] <dabar> as root, so sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart
[07:05] <chicken_> why do i get command not found when i try startx ???
[07:06] <tgny> what do i need to install to change the gtk theme when i'm in KDE?
[07:06] <Digital_Warrior0> x not installed
[07:06] <Digital_Warrior0> laugh out loud
[07:06] <dabar> hehe, he spelled it out.
[07:06] <dark^ngel> or xorg instead of XF86
[07:06] <dabar> it needs to be installed, tho, chicken_.
[07:06] <Digital_Warrior0> no my irc script does it
[07:06] <cmatheson> i think my server's disk is fried... where can i get a rescue disk (the install cd doesn't have that functionality i think?)
[07:06] <jaqkar_u> dabar: i used ssh from win
[07:06] <dabar> chicken_: how did you install ubuntu? as sercver install?
[07:07] <jaqkar_u> dabar: got disconnected - ppfft
[07:07] <cyphase> does anyone in san francisco know anything about the explosion that just happened?
[07:07] <jaqkar_u> dabar: how do i restart the dnsmasq
[07:07] <tgny> what explosion
[07:08] <dabar> jaqkar_u: you nick names are annoying:P anyhow, sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart
[07:08] <chicken_> dabar, yes i installed ubuntu as server
[07:08] <selinium_> any bluetooth wizards around?
[07:08] <John> Sorry, where is the archive modprobe.conf?
[07:08] <tgny> cyphase, what explosion. got a URL?
[07:08] <cyphase> no, it just happened
[07:08] <cyphase> a few minutes ago
[07:08] <tgny> how "big" and where?
[07:08] <cyphase> thought maybe someone in san francisco knows something
[07:08] <dabar> chicken_: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop will install everything for you, I think, chicken_, IF YOU WANT GNOME, install kubuntu-desktop if yo uwant kde, ask me more if you want another WM/desktop env.
[07:09] <tgny> cyphase, how do you know about it?
[07:09] <cyphase> radio
[07:09] <dabar> cyphase: serious?
[07:09] <cyphase> yea
[07:09] <chicken_> dabar, Fluxbox ?
[07:09] <cyphase> 810AM on the west coast
[07:09] <Digital_Warrior0> what the fuck
[07:09] <dabar> chicken_: why that? slower comp?
[07:09] <tgny> cyphase, what exactly did they say?'
[07:09] <stizoner> installing another desktop when you have kde.. it will give you an option to choose at login right?
[07:10] <cyphase> explosion on pine and hurts, people being evacuated, that's about it
[07:10] <cyphase> hurst*
[07:10] <chicken_> dabar, yep, AMD-K6-2 550mhz 179mb RAM 4mb graphics chip
[07:10] <Digital_Warrior0> i have a tornado in wisconsin
[07:11] <jasoncohen> i just noticed that my amd 64 3000+ on my desktop is scaling back to 1 Ghz when it's idle and goes up to 2 only when it needs to. Does this have any impact on performance?
[07:11] <Arnia> cyphase: Nothing on news.bbc.co.uk
[07:11] <cyphase> Arnia, it just happened
[07:11] <cyphase> and bbc is a british news org anyway
[07:11] <cyphase> it'll get it soon though
[07:11] <cyphase> once more info is available
[07:11] <chriszanf> sorry to bug again - how do I add repositories when synaptic manager wont work - needc to add on shell
[07:12] <chicken_> dabar, so to install fluxbox with X i need to ...
[07:12] <Digital_Warrior0> cnn fox nbc abc cbs cant faind any thinghing about it
[07:12] <tgny> cyphase, i got people here with bloomberg news feeds they usually know shit first
[07:12] <dabar> chicken_: I think you need to install x-window-system
[07:12] <Arnia> cyphase: BBC normally have events like that in a couple of minutes
[07:12] <tgny> cyphase,  i will ask around
[07:12] <chicken_> dabar, and how do i do that ?
[07:12] <dabar> sudo aptitude install installs stuff.
[07:13] <jasoncohen> how can cpu scaling be tunred off and is there any performance advantage to doing so? What's the point of lowering the CPU frequency on a desktop anyways?
[07:13] <jaqkar> dabar: ok nick is back to normal sry
[07:13] <dabar> kk, thats cool.
[07:13] <dabar> so fixed that static IP thing?
[07:13] <stizoner> jasoncohen, to keep your computer cool and reduce electricity costs jasoncohen
[07:13] <Digital_Warrior0> dam it all i am getting is tornados in wiscon
[07:13] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know a good bandwidth metering program for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <jaqkar> dabar: rebooting win machine to check
[07:13] <jasoncohen> stizoner, and does it affect performance?
[07:14] <thenuke> Concord_Dawn: yes, google.
[07:14] <benkong2> In an ftp server setup I have /home/ftp with an upload and download dir under that should dirs be chmod'ed to the user/group that proftpd runs under?
[07:14] <dabar> Digital_Warrior0: pasted that stuff from ifconfig?
[07:14] <dabar> ah, just did, eh.
[07:14] <dabar> :)
[07:14] <stizoner> no shouldnt
[07:14] <tgny> cyphase, nothing on  bloomberg
[07:14] <digital_linux> dabar, i posted it in flood
[07:14] <digital_linux> had to take down eth0 even though i could ping out
[07:15] <stizoner> jasoncohen,  http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487%5E10272,00.html
[07:15] <jasoncohen> stizoner, so the delay when upping the cpu frequency should be small enough to have no impact on load speeds of progrsma for example?
[07:16] <jasoncohen> stizoner, thanks
[07:16] <dabar> digital_linux: remove the broadcast too.
[07:16] <stizoner> yeah shouldnt, people would have a fit if it did, would be all over hardware review sites... least thats how i look at it
[07:16] <digital_linux> from eth0
[07:16] <digital_linux> or ra0
[07:16] <dabar> eth0
[07:16] <jasoncohen> stizoner, thanks for the info
[07:17] <Gly> I saw the USN-170 before (rss-feed) and updated the kernel image. When I rebooted there was a passphrase prompt just after grub but before the usual boot process... I just hit enter and the computer booted as usual.. What was that?
[07:17] <jaqkar> dabar: win is not getting the .20 ip from ubuntu instead its getting .8
[07:17] <Gly> USN-169 I meant..
[07:17] <chriszanf> how do I add repositories on a shell? pacjkage manager doesnt want to work
[07:17] <codecaine> Anyone in here know why some clients of mine can't list directories on an ftp connection?
[07:18] <dabar> rooooot has landed.
[07:18] <cyphase> http://www.kgoam810.com/listenlive/listenlive.pls - will have info about the explosion in SF
[07:18] <alec> chriszanf: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:18] <digital_linux> hello
[07:18] <dabar> hi
[07:18] <zapada> does 5.04 have better 56k win modem support?
[07:18] <zapada> i cant get it to work!
[07:18] <chriszanf> ubotu: repos
[07:18] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:18] <dabar> no way it works?
[07:19] <zapada> ubotu: 56k
[07:19] <ubotu> zapada: What?
[07:19] <zapada> ubotu: dial up
[07:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, zapada
[07:19] <dabar> !msg the bot
[07:19] <chriszanf> thank Alec
[07:19] <zapada> !msg the bot
[07:19] <digital_linux> took then down brought them up had to take down eh0 again to connect to internet
[07:20] <zapada> ubotu is acting up
[07:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, zapada
[07:20] <cyphase> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/baycitynews/archive/2005/08/19/explosion19.DTL
[07:20] <zapada> it should at least be able to tell if im talking to it or not
[07:20] <dabar> msg the bot is, like, totally, please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. dont annoy dabaR
[07:20] <HappyFool> heh
[07:20] <chriszanf> dabar talks like a bot
[07:21] <dabar> I pasted that.
[07:21] <tenco> i cant log in to the wiki
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: hah
[07:21] <chriszanf> exactly!
[07:21] <chriszanf> ;)
[07:21] <tenco> i says "false password"
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: i fixed it
[07:21] <tenco> but i registered!
[07:21] <lee> what is the minimum recommended RAM/processofor running ubuntu?  I notice the instlaler says 128MB is required, but I can't find a mention of a processor... I have a 600MHz/256MB RAM box that I'm wondering how it'd work on
[07:21] <dabar> jaqkar: so its the .20?
[07:21] <pestilence> does anybody know how to determine when an interface is ready after "ifconfig $if" ?
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: .20 wasnt in the range for dhcp my bad1
[07:21] <Belutz> !tell me about themes
[07:21] <dabar> digital_linux: so, again its not working. send me again the eth0 part of ifconfig
[07:21] <jaqkar> dabar: now its getting .20
[07:22] <tenco> i enter "tenco" and my password but the wik keeps complaining!!
[07:22] <tenco> s/wik/wiki
[07:22] <tenco> so, how can i log in???
[07:22] <Digital_Warrior0> asd
[07:22] <pestilence> err "ifconfig $if up"
[07:23] <root_> hello every body
[07:23] <tenco> noone using the wiki?
[07:23] <zapada> why doesnt ubuntu work with my 56k winmodem?
[07:23] <hardw1re> hi
[07:23] <tenco> why cant i login to the wiki?
[07:23] <thenuke> zapada: you just said it.. windows modem
[07:23] <codecaine> anyone here help me with directory listing problems with certain ftp programs/computers?
[07:23] <tenco> i registered with this launchpad thingy and now i cant log in
[07:23] <HappyFool> zapada: what model of modem is it?
[07:23] <digital_linux> did you get it
[07:23] <digital_linux> posted
[07:24] <zapada> its an AOpen
[07:24] <root_> i v been unable to get my canon XNUi255 to work in UBUNTU .... it used to work fine in FEDORA CORE 3
[07:24] <zapada> connexant chipset
[07:24] <pestilence> codecaine: be more specific
[07:24] <dabar> root_: dont use IRC as root.
[07:24] <jaqkar> dabar: whats next?
[07:24] <jaqkar> lol
[07:24] <tenco> i even resetted my password, typed it in correctly but i cant login! i just want to make an entry!!!
[07:24] <root_> and i m unable to get my onboard intel 865 video to work properly
[07:24] <zapada> UBUNTU!!!
[07:25] <dabar> jaqkar: you still cant get online with windows? also, dont laugh at others.
[07:25] <dabar> hah
[07:25] <jaqkar> :)
[07:25] <tenco> so how can i post entrys on the wiki?
[07:25] <jaqkar> dabar: im holding it in
[07:25] <tenco> this launchpad thingy doesnt work
[07:25] <jaqkar> dabar: windows cant get online
[07:25] <mohkohn> Anybody here experienced with ubuntu and debian? I am trying to install sarge on this hp 4918ea laptop...
[07:26] <dark^ngel> What good is a window that isn't open anyway?
[07:26] <HappyFool> zapada: been here? http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ ? (note that you have to pay for the 'full' version of the drivers)
[07:26] <zapada> HappyFool: yes, i tried those, and they didnt work
[07:26] <zapada> i got my modem to dial, but after that, it would just disconnectg
[07:26] <chriszanf> ok - I edited apt-list and tried to install php4-mysql but it still says it cant find the package
[07:26] <mohkohn> Ubuntu went on no problem but I get these errors as in this post...http://www.debianhelp.org/module-pnForum-viewtopic-topic-9617.html
[07:26] <dabar> mohkohn: ask on #debian
[07:27] <Concord_Dawn> Anyone know a good bandwidth metering program?
[07:27] <dabar> if you awnt to know about debian, they know so much.
[07:27] <dabar> concord...
[07:27] <dabar> bandwidth to your router? to the first gateway? opn your network? to a porn site?
[07:27] <dabar> it will all vary.
[07:27] <mohkohn> I have been. Trying to figure out what is different. Its supposed to be the same installer in both.
[07:27] <zapada> to porn site
[07:27] <Concord_Dawn> dabar, I was thinking all bandwidth used on my computer
[07:28] <stizoner> zapada, do you use software to connect in windows or dialup networking?
[07:28] <mohkohn> I know a lot of ubuntu people work with both
[07:28] <Concord_Dawn> preferably broken down by user
[07:28] <dark^ngel> about that explosion in SF -- http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_231131708.html
[07:28] <dabar> Concord_Dawn: use a firewall.
[07:28] <tenco> ok. so no one knows how this damn wiki works.
[07:28] <dabar> like firestarter will be telling you that.
[07:28] <zapada> stizoner: no
[07:28] <dabar> I dont know. Also, I think you should think a little more about what you are exactly trying to see, so you can ask better. Concord_Dawn
[07:29] <dabar> tenco
[07:29] <dabar> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/tenco
[07:29] <Concord_Dawn> I'm trying to see how much data I transfer between this computer and any other machine
[07:29] <Digital_Warrior0> daar i did that but it is still there
[07:29] <tenco> dabar: ?
[07:29] <dabar> ya, and still no advancement in the field of science?
[07:29] <dabar> tenco click.
[07:29] <dabar> it will tell you more.
[07:30] <stizoner> some isps wont work with just username and pass (netzero), some require username@ sometimes.., if your getting dialtone id say that the modem is working fine, my guess
[07:30] <digital_linux> dabar i am going to bed i have to get some sleep i will be back up in 5 hrs
[07:30] <dabar> ya, I am leaving too.
[07:30] <dabar> good luck.
[07:30] <Digital_Warrior0> thanks
[07:30] <zapada> stizoner: i put in the same info that i do on my windows machine
[07:30] <jaqkar> dabar: /
[07:30] <dabar> welcome.
[07:30] <tenco> dabar: it only tells me sth about templates and that this site does not exist
[07:30] <dabar> and what do you want? you wanted a new page...to create, so create it.
[07:31] <jaqkar> dabar: what do i have to do now?
[07:31] <stizoner> zapada, no clue then, but if you got dialtone id say it isnt a driver issue, i may be wrong
[07:31] <eqlb> just a quick question about breezy badger, i am having a partition error come up when i tempt to install it
[07:31] <zapada> also, how come ubuntu takes so farkin long to load? xp takes me 5 seconds to load, while ubuntu almost a minute
[07:32] <dabar> jaqkar: you need to paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[07:32] <ctp> zapada, yeah but how long does it take in XP to login and load all the apps you use day-to-day
[07:32] <dark^ngel> zapada: have you disabled services you aren't using?
[07:32] <tenco> dabar: i wanted to edit a page, therefore i need to log in. i registered with launchpad, but the wiki refuses that that account name and password
[07:32] <jaqkar> /etc/network.interfaces
[07:32] <zapada> dark^ngel: no
[07:32] <dabar> well, did you reguister with the web site?
[07:32] <dabar> I dont know, tenco.
[07:32] <dabar> try registering again.
[07:33] <tenco> with launchpad, yes
[07:33] <dark^ngel> zapada: that will make significant difference
[07:33] <zapada> ctp: takes me 5 seconds for full bootup on xp, and installing apps is like seconds?
[07:33] <jaqkar> ok getting it
[07:33] <tenco> dabar: and i can log into launchpad
[07:33] <ctp> ok stick with XP then if you're happy with it
[07:33] <KaiL> Lathiat, so here..
[07:33] <Lathiat> KaiL: you could (yhou shouldnt, but can)
[07:33] <KaiL> you have an idea to stop that script? ;)
[07:33] <dabar> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/join_form
[07:33] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with planetmirror repositories?
[07:33] <leitao> have anyone listen about bad vga memory and kernel remmaping?
[07:33] <zapada> how do i prevent ubuntu from trying to syncronize with the ubuntu clock?
[07:33] <dabar> tenco: ^
[07:33] <Lathiat> KaiL: remove /lib/linux-restricted-modules/`uname -r`/nvidia
[07:33] <dabar> I need to go eat.
[07:33] <Lathiat> zapada: right click the clock and goto preferences, you can change it there
[07:33] <KaiL> ah, thanks
[07:34] <zapada> Lathiat: thanks
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: or on startup, update-rc.d -f remove ntpdate .
[07:34] <dabar> jaqkar: /join #flood
[07:34] <zapada> Lathiat: im a noob :)
[07:34] <dabar> jaqkar: in there.
[07:34] <jaqkar> dabar: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1395
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: err
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: sorry
[07:34] <dabar> jaqkar: even better.
[07:34] <Lathiat> zapada: update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[07:34] <tenco> dabar: ok, solved. the login mask is "name" & "password" but it needs "e-mail" & "password"
[07:34] <jaqkar> :)
[07:34] <dark^ngel> zapada: everyone is on their first days.
[07:35] <dabar> tenco: Ok, I am glad that worked dfor you.
[07:35] <dabar> I gotta go, jaqkar, sorry.
[07:35] <dabar> Ill send you an email if you want.
[07:35] <jaqkar> ok
[07:35] <dabar> pm me with it.l
[07:35] <dabar>  /msg dabar
[07:35] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with planetmirror repositories?
[07:35] <eqlb> can some one suggest something about that or is it common, it comes up with a title of ??? ??? and it says continue and go back and if you select ether you can quickly get a glimps og unimplemented  command
[07:36] <eqlb> for breezy badger before the partition
[07:36] <zapada> has anyone here gotten a win modem to work on ubuntu and actually connect?
[07:36] <dabar> ok later
[07:36] <HappyFool> i have a winmodem (not conexant); it's what i'm using right now
[07:36] <jaqkar> dabar: sent you pm :)
[07:37] <dark^ngel> zapada: the agere works questionably, but that's actually what I call a LinModem
[07:37] <dabar> ya, saw it.
[07:37] <jaqkar> :)
[07:38] <zwnj> i made a symlink of /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.{conf,load} in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ and apache loads php ("PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4" in directory index), but i get source of php files yet (mediawiki's start page for example)
[07:38] <tamarack> hello
[07:38] <zapada> hey tamarack
[07:38] <tamarack> does anyone know how to make browser mode the default in nautilus?
[07:39] <tamarack> hi zapada
[07:39] <jbull> tamarack:  its a gconf key somewhere
[07:39] <tamarack> yah, I'm trying to track it down
[07:39] <tamarack> looking through the forums right now
[07:40] <tamarack> I was hoping someone might be able to save me a little work ;-)
[07:40] <HappyFool> zwnj: hmm, i followed this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP and it 'just worked'
[07:40] <HappyFool> zwnj: i didn't have to create any symlinks, that i recall
[07:40] <Seveas> tamarack, in the options of nautilus :)
[07:40] <Seveas> tab behavior
[07:40] <Seveas> select 'always open in browser windows'
[07:40] <absinthe_> Could someone reccomend a linux painting program like Corel Painter?
[07:40] <tamarack> I must have missed it, just a sec
[07:41] <stizoner> tux paint
[07:41] <stizoner> jk lo
[07:41] <Seveas> absinthe_, gimp / inkscape are the de facto drawing programs
[07:41] <tamarack> ack, I must have looked right at it
[07:41] <tamarack> completely missed it
[07:41] <tamarack> thanks :)
[07:41] <zwnj> HappyFool: danke :)
[07:41] <absinthe_> Seveas, Can you digitally paint artwork?
[07:42] <HappyFool> zwnj: bitte  -- i hope it works ;)
[07:42] <Seveas> absinthe_, I'm not an artist, I;m horrible at painting and related things :)
[07:42] <Seveas> (In fact all original images on my website are php scripts :))
[07:42] <absinthe_> Seveas, Thanks anyway. I'll check em out
[07:42] <tamarack> ahhhh, that is so much better
[07:42] <Hikaru79> Is anyone else having problems with planetmirror repositories?
[07:43] <riv> Question, what is the best driver for 'Intel 915GM'
[07:43] <Seveas> Hikaru79, they're not working
[07:43] <Seveas> try another mirror
[07:43] <Hikaru79> Seveas, oh, good. SO it's not just me.
[07:43] <Hikaru79> Seveas, which other mirror could I use for the backports?
[07:43] <Hikaru79> This is the only planetmirror repo I have: deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:43] <Hikaru79> What can I replace it by?
[07:44] <HappyFool> maybe the backports page has more
[07:44] <HappyFool> !backports
[07:44] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[07:44] <HappyFool> hrm
[07:44] <HappyFool> backports.ubuntuforums.org, i think
[07:44] <Hikaru79> Thanks, HappyFool :)
[07:44] <Seveas> !hoary-extras
[07:44] <ubotu> hmm... hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:44] <benkong2> hey folks uname -v just gives me this " #1 Fri Jun 24 18:51:20 UTC 2005" I thought that was the kernel version switch. How do I get kernel version
[07:45] <HappyFool> uname -r
[07:45] <benkong2> HappyFool; thanks
[07:45] <cartman> fonts fucked up for anyone with latest breezy ?
[07:45] <riv> what is the command to reconfigure my Xconf?
[07:46] <cartman> my fonts all went foobar after latest dist-upgrade
[07:46] <Seveas> riv, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <riv> thanks sev
[07:47] <Seveas> cartman, read ubuntu-devel@lists when using breezy...
[07:47] <Seveas> this issue was in the notes
[07:47] <cartman> Seveas: I appreciate links
[07:47] <cartman> my eyes are dying
[07:47] <sockpuppe1> 'ol bill is working on his own flavour of linux
[07:48] <sockpuppe1> its called micrix
[07:48] <cartman> Seveas: any link ?
[07:48] <sockpuppe1> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4727267.stm
[07:48] <Seveas> cartman, searching...
[07:48] <cartman> Seveas: thanks
[07:48] <cartman> Seveas: fonts are too bad here so I can't really read
[07:49] <Seveas> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-August/009421.html
[07:49] <cartman> Seveas: xkb is not related to fonts
[07:49] <zenlunatic> how do i play dvds through vlc?
[07:49] <cartman> you know ...
[07:49] <Seveas> cartman, i know
[07:49] <Seveas> was the wrong link :)
[07:50] <Seveas> still looking
[07:50] <cartman> Seveas: ok :)
[07:50] <Seveas> but it's good to read that post too :)
[07:50] <Seveas> did you perhaps use a workaround to 'fix' the fonts issue earlier?
[07:50] <orangey> hey all!
[07:51] <orangey> I was wondering if there was a backported amarok 1.3 around..
[07:51] <cartman> Seveas: not really
[07:52] <Seveas> orangey, there is, but I forgot where :|
[07:52] <Seveas> look at the kanotix repositories, it might have been there
[07:52] <zenlunatic> how do you play dvds?
[07:52] <HappyFool> !restricted
[07:52] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:52] <HappyFool> zenlunatic: that page should tell you how to play dvds
[07:53] <Seveas> orangey, try: deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ /
[07:53] <ridiie> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu to my secondary HD... if I were to use the unbuntu ISO CD to boot at startup.. will it write anything to my primary HD?
[07:54] <dk156> noob here! :)    I have to manually install the iptables for a firewall config - right?
[07:54] <Lathiat> ridiie: you wont be able to do that properly
[07:54] <Lathiat> ridiie: ubuntu's boot manager offers an option to start windows, however
[07:54] <ridiie> if I install Ubuntu I mean
[07:54] <apokryphos> It won't override windows, if that's what you mean
[07:54] <Lathiat> ridiie: or you could install the boot manager on your second hard drive and ask your bios to boot from that hard drive rahter than the first one (doesnt work on all computers)
[07:54] <apokryphos> if you choose to, it will install GRUB on the MBR
[07:54] <ridiie> oh
[07:54] <orangey> Seveas: that's a backport for hoary?
[07:54] <Lathiat> but yeh it'l have a windows option in its menu, and it will do that automagically
[07:55] <Lathiat> unlike windows it cares about what other operating systems you have :)
[07:55] <zenlunatic> HappyFool: oh there is no free software to do this so i will leave it undone
[07:55] <apokryphos> indeed
[07:55] <HappyFool> !firewall
[07:55] <ubotu> firewall is, like, Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.
[07:55] <ridiie> yeah, I hate windows
[07:55] <HappyFool> zenlunatic: the software is free as in gratis
[07:55] <ridiie> its like heroin, hate using it.. but gotta use it
[07:55] <dk156> thanx bot
[07:56] <orangey> ridiie: gotta for what?
[07:56] <vagamente> i just got mplayer "freezed"... how can i "kill" it?????????'
[07:56] <Seveas> orangey, I bet you can make it work on hoary
[07:56] <ridiie> msoffice
[07:56] <ridiie> work related stuff
[07:56] <Seveas> vagamente, pkill -KILL mplayer
[07:56] <orangey> Seveas: I don't wanna spend too much time making ti work..
[07:57] <Seveas> orangey, quick recipe: add the deb-src url, apt-get source it, apt-get build-dep amarok, cd into the sourcedir, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[07:57] <a1zi> is there an irc channel for 1994-1998 mustangs?
[07:57] <Hoxzer> how can I write url in w3m?
[07:57] <Seveas> a1zi, probably not on this server :)
[07:57] <riv> how do I check for new video drivers?
[07:57] <a1zi> Seveas, how do i get to one?
[07:57] <orangey> Seveas: yeah, but I don't particularly want it to update everything else in its rep.
[07:57] <Seveas> a1zi, I have no idea at all
[07:58] <a1zi> Seveas, ok thanks
[07:58] <Seveas> orangey, if you add only the deb-src url, nothing from that repository will be used in updates
[07:58] <riv> Are there new video drivers in universe that aren't part of core?
[07:58] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: type 'g'
[07:58] <vagamente> Seveas: THANX A LOT!!!
[07:58] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: err. that's using w3m in emacs
[07:59] <ridiie> ok, basically I need to know if I use the Ubuntu ISO disk to boot.. will it give me an option to install the OS to a partician in my secondary HD? and I have several particians on my first HD.. will it affect data in those particians in any way?
[07:59] <dark^ngel> alzi: you could /j #mustangs_older and start your own ;)
[08:00] <chicken_> woohoo i got Fluxbox running :D
[08:00] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: type 'H' for help
[08:01] <Flonne> ridiie, the installer will let you specify any partitions you want.
[08:01] <Flonne> ridiie, just make sure you opt to manually edit the partition table when prompted. The installer will confirm any choices you make before actually doing anything.
[08:01] <Davey> chicken_, great, now you know how much it sucks you can go back to Gnome :D
[08:02] <ridiie> I have already created the partician in my secondary HD.. using Partician Magic.. its a linux-ext3
[08:02] <chicken_> Davey, Gnome sucks thats why i done a server install so i don;t have to look at Gnome
[08:02] <anna> hello. i have a question about the ubuntu hoary disk
[08:02] <ridiie> or Partition Magic rather
[08:02] <Davey> chicken_, heh
[08:02] <Davey> chicken_, why not just go with another distro?
[08:03] <anna> there are three kernel options... linux-386, something else, and linux-386-2.6.10.5... (or something like that).
[08:03] <Flonne> ridiie, just write down your second HDD's partition table. The installer will refer to it as hdb.
[08:03] <anna> and i'm wondering if anyone knows what kernel the basic "386" version is using?
[08:03] <Flonne> ridiie, also, make sure you've got a partition to use as swap.
[08:03] <Seveas> anna, linux-386 is the way to go
[08:03] <Seveas> basically they all install the same
[08:03] <anna> instead of the 2.6.10?
[08:04] <Seveas> but linux-386 is a package to keep your kernel current
[08:04] <anna> how come the 386 doesn't mention what kernel it's using?
[08:04] <anna> oh.
[08:04] <Flonne> anna, linux-<arch> is just a metapackage used to point to the most recentversion at all times.
[08:04] <anna> okay. thanks.
[08:04] <Seveas> linux-386 installs linux-2.6.10-5-386
[08:04] <Seveas> but if 2.6.12 comes available it will be upgraded
[08:04] <chicken_> Davey, I like ubuntu
[08:04] <Seveas> without linux-386 that eould not happen
[08:05] <anna> aha!
[08:05] <anna> great! thanks for the info.
[08:05] <chicken_> Davey, just not gnome or KDE i like Fluxbox because it's small and runs well on my slow computer
[08:05] <Seveas> orangey, still here?
[08:05] <anna> i wish it had been a bit more clear on that...
[08:05] <zwnj> my LAMP works well, but i php doesn't work on directory index file (i.e. it works for wiki/index.php but doesn't work for wiki/ )  what's the problem?
[08:05] <HappyFool> linux-386 also depends on the -restricted-modules package, which is helpful
[08:05] <ridiie> thanx Flonne.. btw... how do I "write" down the partition table?
[08:06] <riv> where is the wiki for adding universe to apt-get
[08:06] <Concord_Dawn> How can I set the $PATH variable?
[08:06] <HappyFool> zwnj: maybe tell apache to use index.php as the 'root' or 'default' file? i think it's usually index.html
[08:06] <Seveas> zwnj, add index.php to the DirectoryIndex directive (should be there though)
[08:06] <Flonne> ridiie, just look at it in your partition editor and write it down on a piece of paper. It'll help to have a list.
[08:06] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:06] <Seveas> zwnj, or look for other index.* files linke index.html
[08:06] <pax> actually a kernel security update just hit the streets 30 minutes ago, you want 2.6.10-34.4
[08:06] <riv> thank you!
[08:07] <anna> ridiie, i do that too. i have a notebook where i write all that sort of thing down.
[08:07] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, how can I set $PATH?
[08:07] <zwnj> Seveas, HappyFool: it get index.php to me, but doesn't run php on it
[08:07] <Flonne> ridiie, "1: ext-3 (root), 2: reiserfs (data), 3: swap" or something.
[08:07] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, export PATH=/something/to/add:$PATH
[08:07] <Seveas> zwnj, ah, you installed libapache2-mod-php4?
[08:07] <Concord_Dawn> so if I wanted to clear the $PATH, I'd do export PATH=:$PATH
[08:07] <zwnj> Seveas: yep
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, that right?
[08:08] <dabar> jaqkar: still here?
[08:08] <Seveas> zwnj, sudo a2enmod php
[08:08] <jaqkar> dabar: indeed
[08:08] <Seveas> zwnj, sudo a2enmod php4
[08:08] <zwnj> apache runs php4 on index.php or any other .php file, but doesn't do that for index files...
[08:08] <Seveas> hmm
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> nvm Seveas
[08:08] <chicken_> I love apache :P
[08:08] <Concord_Dawn> got it to work.
[08:09] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, clearing the path is a BAD idea
[08:09] <zwnj> Seveas: php in enabled
[08:09] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, I'm not clearing it on my user.
[08:09] <anna> thanks folks! i really like ubuntu. i'm even liking Gnome!
[08:09] <dabar> jaqkar: cool. try this. backup your current interfaces file by doing sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_backup
[08:09] <anna> i used to prefer KDE but i've been really enjoying the new gnome
[08:09] <benplaut> !dev
[08:09] <ubotu> No idea, benplaut
[08:09] <benplaut> grr
[08:09] <dabar> then edit your interfaces to be http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1396 .
[08:10] <Kyral> GNOME 2.12 == teh sexy
[08:10] <chicken_> is there some thing that lets people connect to my computer with telnet and login as i don't like SSH
[08:10] <dabar> benplaut: is your nick registered?
[08:10] <benplaut> gnome 2.11.90= the r0xors
[08:10] <benplaut> dabar: it should be...
[08:10] <benplaut> yup, it is
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> gnome is win
[08:11] <Kyral> GO GTK ATTACK!
[08:11] <Seveas> !start a desktop war
[08:11] <ubotu> e is much better than kde!
[08:11] <benplaut> just started with breezy last night :)
[08:11] <Kyral> lol
[08:11] <anna> and i've totally fallen in love with symantic package manager
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> chicken_, telnet is insecure.
[08:11] <Flonne> Synaptic*
[08:11] <aru> Seveas: that was great :)
[08:11] <riv> where is the get-apt config file stored?
[08:11] <Concord_Dawn> !init
[08:11] <jaqkar> dabar: done
[08:11] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:11] <dabar> ok, benplaut, since you have been here for soooo long in the channel, and I always get annoyed with your attempts at talking to the bot in the channel: Please msg the bot. /msg ubotu whateveryuowanttoaskorfindoutwhetherafactoidexists
[08:11] <benplaut> riv: for what kind of config?
[08:11] <riv> I want to add universe
[08:11] <benplaut> dabar: soorry
[08:12] <riv> and I can't get into X
[08:12] <dabar> thats cool, just please do that.
[08:12] <Flonne> riv, you can add that through Synaptic.
[08:12] <Kyral> Is there a way to download all the packages you have installed on your system so you can burn them on a DVD?
[08:12] <Flonne> Ah.
[08:12] <chicken_> Concord_Dawn, i know but i don't like SSH
[08:12] <Concord_Dawn> well
[08:12] <Flonne> riv, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <HappyFool> chicken_: 'apt-cache search telnetd'
[08:12] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:12] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:12] <anna> make sure you run synaptic as a user who has su privileges
[08:12] <riv> thanlk flonne
[08:12] <Flonne> riv, remember to run 'apt-get update' or 'aptitude update' after editing the file.
[08:12] <HappyFool> riv: the second list should have a complete version of /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <HappyFool> second link, even
[08:13] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, how can I start the sshd after it's crashed?
[08:13] <dabar> jaqkar: once you have that done. sudo ifdown eth0, then sudo ifup eth0, and then try getting a new IP in windows, and pinging www.google.com in a dos screen, ping www.google.com will do that.
[08:13] <dabar> save and exit out the file, off course.
[08:13] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:13] <Kyral> note to self: Don't cat a binary file
[08:14] <jaqkar> dabar: oki brb
[08:14] <Concord_Dawn> thanks Seveas
[08:14] <dabar> k
[08:14] <chicken_> Kyral, LOL
[08:14] <jaqkar> dabar: does ipmasq need to be running
[08:14] <dark^ngel> LOL@Kyral
[08:14] <Kyral> but seriously, is there a way to download all the debs for the packages on my system?
[08:14] <Concord_Dawn> what's that do Kyral?
[08:14] <jaqkar> dabar: i was just cheking it out and then stopped it. ipmasq that it
[08:15] <Flonne> Kyral, do you just want to fetch everything you've got installed?
[08:15] <dabar> I am not sure what you want to say.
[08:15] <Kyral> Flonne, yah, the debs
[08:15] <Kyral> so I can burn them to a DVD
[08:15] <Concord_Dawn> apt-get <package>
[08:15] <Concord_Dawn> no install.
[08:15] <Concord_Dawn> afaik that should just place the .deb on your HDD.
[08:16] <Concord_Dawn> ARGH
[08:16] <Kyral> yah, but....wait...
[08:16] <Concord_Dawn> this server traceroutes me! =\
[08:16] <dark^ngel> apt-get instal -d <package_name>
[08:16] <Kyral> how do I grep all the packages that I have installed?
[08:16] <dark^ngel> errr
[08:16] <dark^ngel> apt-get install -d <package_name>
[08:16] <Kyral> I know there is a way
[08:17] <Concord_Dawn> dark^ngel, he's talking about a way to get a list of all installed packages.
[08:17] <jaqkar> dabar: i stopped ipmasq
[08:17] <Seveas> Kyral, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[08:17] <jaqkar> dabar: does it need to run
[08:17] <dark^ngel> ls /var/cache/apt
[08:17] <Kyral> Seveas, what does that do again?
[08:17] <Kyral> lol
[08:17] <JHK> Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:18] <JHK> after a kernel update i recieved this
[08:18] <Kyral> wee
[08:18] <Seveas> Kyral, it displays the list of installed packages
[08:18] <dabar> yes
[08:18] <Kyral> now I just have to pipe that into a text file
[08:18] <dabar> sudo invoke-rc.d ipmasq start
[08:18] <Kyral> so
[08:18] <Kyral> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall >> packagelist
[08:18] <anna> okay - i have one more silly question...
[08:18] <aru> System > Administration > Synaptic - then click Status and installed... that will show you all installed packages
[08:19] <dabar> yay, silly quesgtion
[08:19] <Seveas> and on another pc: dpkg --set-selections < packagelist
[08:19] <Kyral> Seveas, I'm just gonna fetch the packages :D
[08:19] <anna> if i installed the 2.10.5.... instead of just the default linux-386, can i fix it without re-doing the entire install?
[08:19] <Kyral> and burn them on a CD
[08:19] <riv> will video drivers for X be something I can get through get-apt?
[08:19] <dark^ngel> Synaptic? What's that?
[08:19] <anna> synaptic package manager rocks!
[08:19] <chicken_> aptitude is soooo much better than synaptic :P
[08:19] <aru> !Synaptic
[08:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:20] <Kyral> Whenever I need to restore from backup I will put the DVD in the drive, cd to it, and do a dpkg -i *.deb :D
[08:20] <dark^ngel> Oh ... we speak GUI here?
[08:20] <anna> some of us do
[08:20] <dabar> ya
[08:20] <Flonne> Kryal, gimme a moment to test something.
[08:20] <riv> I would nove to use Synamptic if I could get startx to work.
[08:20] <anna> i do both gui and command line... depending.
[08:20] <chicken_> !aptitude
[08:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, chicken_
[08:20] <chicken_> damn silly bot
[08:20] <Kyral> pure apt > all
[08:20] <riv> lol
[08:20] <Kyral> no wait
[08:20] <anna> riv, have you tried CTRL ALT F7?
[08:20] <dark^ngel> Yeh, pax, I'm using GUI
[08:20] <riv> yes
[08:20] <Kyral> Apt + Bash Aliases > ALL
[08:20] <dabar> haha, chicken_...there is your sooo myuch better.
[08:21] <riv> anna: I have and the screen is just black.
[08:21] <anna> i was having troulbe with it not going to the x window... but that did it.
[08:21] <anna> oh. oh well.
[08:21] <riv> it's a video driver problem
[08:21] <dark^ngel> This is only my second day with rodent-in-command
[08:21] <riv> need to find the driver ...
[08:21] <chicken_> any one know a good file browser that don't need Gnome or KDE ?
[08:21] <anna> riv: icky. sorry to hear that.
[08:21] <riv> !drivers
[08:21] <ubotu> [drivers]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[08:22] <riv> !video drivers
[08:22] <ubotu> riv: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:22] <funkyHat> chicken_, what WM are you using?
[08:22] <dabar> !msg the bot
[08:22] <ubotu> hmm... msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. dont annoy dabaR
[08:22] <chicken_> funkyHat, errrm fluxbox
[08:22] <riv> roger that dabar
[08:23] <zerboxx> chicken_: You can still use nautilus (found that out myself) by using nautlius --no-desktop
[08:23] <_rolando> how come mplayer isnt in any reposotiry?
[08:23] <anna> so - anyone know if i can get the automagical updating linux-386 on my system without overwriting everything?
[08:23] <chicken_> funkyHat, but i don't have Gnome installed :-P
[08:23] <_rolando> no se
[08:24] <Seveas> _rolando, it's in multivere
[08:24] <dark^ngel> bbiab
[08:24] <Seveas> chicken_, this is not the place for desktop wars...
[08:24] <funkyHat> chicken_, firefox doesn't seem to depend on gnome
[08:24] <_rolando> Seveas: but ive selected all from synaptic
[08:24] <Seveas> _rolando, by default it's not in sources.list
[08:24] <zerboxx> chicken_: Ah well in that case, rox is a good choice, I had that before I found I could still use nautilus
[08:24] <Seveas> !repos
[08:24] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:24] <Seveas> ^-- _rolando
[08:24] <Flonne> Kyral, aptitude download `dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install"){print $1}}'` should do it.
[08:24] <apjone> hey ppl
[08:25] <anna> i'm currently installing ubunt on my DH's new laptop. but i already have it installed on mine
[08:25] <_rolando> ok thanx
[08:25] <Seveas> Flonne, grep -v deinstall
[08:25] <Seveas> :)
[08:25] <anna> and i want to fix it to the "linux-386" kernel
[08:25] <HappyFool> Seveas: how about adding '## this file is /etc/apt/sources.list' to the top of http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 ?
[08:25] <jaqkar> dabar: windows got the ip, but i cannot ping anything
[08:25] <anna> cuz when i did it, i selected the linux-386-2.10.5....
[08:26] <benplaut> where are cursors stored?
[08:26] <Flonne> I forgot about -v... but you;d still need to filter the columns.
[08:26] <dabar> jaqkar: and you sudo ifdown eth0 and then up?
[08:26] <_rolando> no se
[08:26] <jaqkar> yes
[08:26] <HappyFool> anna: you can just install the linux-386 package; it should be on the CD, or you can install it from the internet
[08:26] <apjone> any one know of a gud vpn client?
[08:27] <Seveas> Flonne, cut -f 1 -d ' '
[08:27] <dabar> jaqkar: tell me the 3 IPs again for the windows, linux, and router.
[08:27] <anna> HappyFool: so it should be on symantic?
[08:27] <Seveas> but dpkg --set-selections wants the complete output :)
[08:27] <setite> au revoir my friends... i will be going back to windows
[08:27] <HappyFool> anna: in synaptic, yes
[08:27] <Flonne> I like awk. =P
[08:27] <anna> i see "autoinstall-i386" as well as "linux-386"
[08:27] <jaqkar> dabar: router>192.168.1.1 win>192.168.1.20 ubuntu>192.168.1.3
[08:28] <anna> which one do i want? (or both?)
[08:28] <dabar> aha
[08:28] <HappyFool> anna: i don't know what autoinstall-386 is.
[08:28] <Seveas> !info autoinstall-i386
[08:28] <ubotu> autoinstall-i386: (Debian auto-installation system - i386-specific files), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 1.13 (hoary), Packaged size: 948 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB
[08:28] <anna> okay. i'm just going with the linux-386 one...
[08:28] <Seveas> it's something completely different :)
[08:28] <dabar> and your /etc/network/interfaces looks like what? paste, please.
[08:28] <HappyFool> anna: i don't think you need it
[08:28] <Flonne> Seveas, I've been using awk for the past six years. Its not an easy  habit to break. :)
[08:28] <Flonne> It's*
[08:28] <Arnia> Ok. I have just installed Breezy so I can begin moving my code to some new APIs. However, many library -dev versions threaten to remove ubuntu-desktop when I mark them. What's up with that?
[08:28] <anna> okay. np. thanks folks.
[08:29] <mz2> is there some clean way of changing things in /etc/alternatives except for changing symlinks by myself?
[08:29] <anna> oh - one more question...
[08:29] <jmhodges> anyone gotten one of the WEP-able ipw2100 drivers to build?
[08:29] <apjone> hi does any one know of a good vpn client
[08:29] <jmhodges> i'm getting make errors that does not actually give any reasons
[08:29] <anna> if i downloaded everything to the hard drive (as suggested during the install) why do i have to put in the disk?
[08:29] <Kyral> hmm
[08:30] <jmhodges> i'm following the ipw2200+WPA HOWTO
[08:30] <jaqkar> dabar: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1398
[08:30] <apjone> anna , so u dont have to d/l it again
[08:30] <jmhodges> er.. i meant WPA-able ipw2100
[08:30] <Kyral> how would I take a list that is separated by lines
[08:30] <dabar> you didnt change it at all.
[08:30] <Kyral> and replace the line breaks with spaces
[08:30] <anna> i already d/l it. why can't i just use the d/l version?
[08:30] <dabar> we need it different.
[08:30] <HappyFool> anna: i think if it's on the CD, maybe it uses different rules
[08:30] <Flonne> Kyral, sed should be able to do that.
[08:30] <HappyFool> anna: but i'm not sure
[08:30] <dabar> ill prepare one for you.
[08:30] <Kyral> Note to self, learn to use sed and grep
[08:30] <dabar> have you backed this one up, jaqkar?
[08:30] <jaqkar> dabar: change what?
[08:30] <dabar> the interfaces file.
[08:31] <jaqkar> dabar: yes as you said
[08:31] <chicken_> i need a file browser with a GUI
[08:31] <jaqkar> dabar: no i didnt change it
[08:31] <Kyral> chicken_, Nautilus
[08:31] <jaqkar> dabar: what do i need to change in it?
[08:31] <Concord_Dawn> if I have chroot'd a user, and I symlink to a directory (say /var/www), will that user be able to access that directory or will it just return a 'no such directory' error?
[08:32] <_rolando> ok i dont want to edit any file, i just want to add them with synaptic, is there anywhere explaining that?
[08:32] <dabar> jaqkar: sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_works
[08:32] <apjone> Dawn sud work
[08:32] <Kyral> Flonne, I don't know how to work sed :(
[08:32] <chicken_> can i some thing thats not Gnome please
[08:32] <dabar> jaqkar: make your interfaces as so then: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1399 .
[08:32] <_rolando> what does universe multiverse mean?
[08:32] <Concord_Dawn> apjone, please use proper english next time, I almost thought you weren't talking to me :-
[08:32] <Concord_Dawn> :-P*
[08:32] <jaqkar> dabar: i already made a backup
[08:32] <dabar> hey
[08:32] <_rolando> those cant be part of the url
[08:32] <dabar> jaqkar: not as shown in that pastebin exactly.
[08:32] <Concord_Dawn> _rolando, that's the name of the repository.
[08:33] <dabar> change the broadcast to 1.255, instead of 0.255
[08:33] <chicken_> i need a file browser thats not KDE or Gnome
[08:33] <dabar> then down, up, try again.
[08:33] <HappyFool> chicken_: mc
[08:33] <apjone> sorry Concord , i do everything short hand
[08:33] <_rolando> Concord_Dawn: what if it has both:universe multiverse?
[08:33] <mz2> oh right, an answer to my own question is update-alternatives
[08:34] <mz2> man -k is my friend :)
[08:34] <HappyFool> universe and multiverse are distinct; universe contains free software not supported by ubuntu; multiverse contains 'non-free' (ito licensing) software also not supported
[08:34] <chicken_> HappyFool, errrm ?
[08:34] <jedix> does anyone know of a howto to get 32bit games running on a 64bit ubuntu?
[08:34] <xiximkopp> hello, i have some problems with international keys (in X) with Breezy
[08:34] <HappyFool> !info mc
[08:34] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[08:34] <_rolando> ok
[08:34] <mz2> i wonder if there's a way to get rid of the "Translate this application..." menu item in all apps
[08:35] <setite> jedix yea
[08:35] <HappyFool> mc is text mode, but you might like it
[08:35] <jedix> setite: is it best to just reinstall ubuntu32?  I'm planning to buy HL2 today, and transgaming
[08:35] <jaqkar> dabar: oki done and if down/up
[08:35] <xiximkopp> i'm not sure if i did something wrong or not... is xkb curently broken??
[08:35] <jedix> setite: have a url for the howto?
[08:35] <dabar> good
[08:35] <dabar> try getting a new IP, and then pinging.
[08:36] <Seveas> xiximkopp, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-August/009421.html
[08:36] <dark^ngel> are there any openssl gurus here?
[08:36] <jaqkar> dabar: just did a release and renew, ping doesnt work
[08:36] <faen> dark^ngel, not really but whats up?
[08:36] <anna> um. where should i point apt to use the ubuntu archive?
[08:37] <Seveas> dark^ngel, I know a bit about it
[08:37] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:37] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:37] <dark^ngel> I can get my self-signed certs to work from apache2 script, but I'm trying to establish as a root CA
[08:37] <anna> i'm installing on my sweetie's machine
[08:37] <HappyFool> anna: read the links ubotu just posted
[08:37] <anna> great
[08:37] <anna> thanks
[08:37] <dark^ngel> the root CA gives everything but Lynx a bad case of diarrhea
[08:37] <riv> how do I use apt-get to find new video drivers?
[08:37] <xiximkopp> Seveas, thank you very much!
[08:38] <faen> dark^ngel, do you have openssl-devel?
[08:38] <jedix> you still there?
[08:38] <setite> jedix: took me awhile to find it
[08:38] <setite> jedix: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[08:38] <darkheart> faen sudo seems to have some issues with echo
[08:38] <jedix> setite: thanks
[08:38] <Seveas> dark^ngel, http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#ToC29
[08:38] <dark^ngel> no, do I need devel to do the root cert?
[08:38] <setite> good luck with it
[08:38] <setite> im done with ubuntu
[08:38] <anabatic> does the same here faen just need to manually sudo it and all is fine
[08:38] <Seveas> dark^ngel, no you don't
[08:38] <faen> dark^ngel, I would imagine so
[08:38] <Seveas> you just need the openssl package
[08:38] <setite> just not worth it... at least not for what i need
[08:38] <dabar> jaqkar: Im gonna think on it for a while.
[08:39] <_rolando> what i want is nested menus
[08:39] <dark^ngel> I get replies that say first certificate is not locatable
[08:39] <jaqkar> dabar: did i need to do anything with ipmasq?
[08:39] <_rolando> how can i have that?
[08:39] <faen> anabatic, what is the other method?
[08:39] <dabar> did you start it?
[08:39] <Seveas> dark^ngel, read that faqpage I gave you
[08:39] <HappyFool> faen: i think you can try 'echo <blah> | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:39] <faen> err, syntax
[08:39] <Seveas> ik explains it all
[08:39] <xiximkopp> i'm gonna check if it worked
[08:39] <xsadikx> hi!
[08:39] <faen> HappyFool, thanks, will give it a shot
[08:39] <HappyFool> riv: what video driver are you looking for?
[08:40] <dabar> jaqkar: did you start it?
[08:40] <jaqkar> dabar: yes its started
[08:40] <dark^ngel> Seveas: I'm wading
[08:40] <xsadikx> i just installed Skype and it works great but the gui is pretty fudged up.. bold letters and stuff and the windows moves pretty slow.. am i missing something?
[08:42] <faen> odd
[08:42] <faen> have any of you added nooms repository?
[08:42] <mz2> xsadikx, install qtconfig, kcontrol and some nice kde themes (such as lipstik) and then change the theme in qtconfig to that. alternatively just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get all of KDE. Skype uses QT as its UI toolkit
[08:42] <dark^ngel> Seveas: I created a script, previously that automates all of those steps. The certs are created, but none of the clients are given an opportunity to accept my server's reply
[08:42] <gmoore> mz2, if you get kubuntu can you switch back and forth between gnome and kde
[08:42] <Velox> Hullo, I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to load after install...basically what I'm doing is dual-booting my system with two HDDs, a 120gb SATA drive which is Windows/NTFS which I don't touch. The other a 40gb IDE drive which I installed Ubuntu onto. When the install was complete I installed GRUB to the MBR, then in my bios I switched my primary drive to the 40gb drive so that it would use GRUB as the bootloader, however it just sits there with a blink
[08:42] <dabar> well... sudo gedit /etc/ipmasq/rules/Z99dhcpd.rul and paste this into it. http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1400
[08:42] <xsadikx> ok mz2
[08:43] <mz2> gmoore, yes, and as far as i remember it doesn't change your default environment
[08:43] <jedix> setite: do you know how to get doom3 to run on amd64?
[08:43] <anna> okay folks - i'm outta here. thanks a bunch!
[08:43] <ninjafish> hi, can anyone reccomend a decent 20gig+ portable mp3 player that I can use with linux (i.e. no silly drivers needed, just appears as a hard drive)
[08:43] <darkheart> Velox Any text appear?
[08:43] <chicken_> what is the mozilla firefox package name ?
[08:43] <HappyFool> Velox: you probably need to reinstall grub; grub is probably looking on the 'second' hard-drive for boot info
[08:43] <jedix> chicken_: apt-cache search firefox
[08:43] <Velox> darkheart: No, just a blinking underscore.
[08:44] <HappyFool> Velox: but you changed the driver ordering, i guess, by changing bios settings
[08:44] <dabar> jaqkar: ^ save it close it, restart ipmasq, and then try again.
[08:44] <Velox> HappyFool: I installed GRUB to the second drive's MBR then switched the BIOS boot drive to the second drive so it would load GRUB
[08:44] <darkheart> Velox If you wrote GRUB to the MBR when you installed it, it's gonna be on the other HDD isn't it? Why did you change? Only other thing I can think of is check the jumper settings on your IDE drive.
[08:44] <xiximkopp> wow! the @, ?, ~, | and the umlauts work again! it was quite nerve-racking to fire up gucharmap every time i needed an @. thanks agai
[08:45] <xiximkopp> n
[08:45] <HappyFool> Velox: i'm guessing grub thinks the drive it's on is "hd0", but has been installed to look on hd1 for it's boot info (menu.lst etc)
[08:45] <setite> how do i kill the ubuntu firewall
[08:45] <faen> drats
[08:45] <Velox> Hmm...I posted my menu.lst in the pastebin.
[08:45] <aru> setite: use a knife...
[08:45] <setite> jedix: not sure... google it.. im sure there is a tutorial
[08:45] <jedix> does anyone know how to get doom3 to run on 64bit ubuntu?
[08:45] <jedix> setite: okay
[08:46] <HappyFool> Velox: if i'm right, grub can't find that file
[08:46] <setite> seriously i need to figure it out... azureus functions bad
[08:46] <dabar> aru:)
[08:46] <aru> sorry, I couldn't resist :)
[08:46] <dabar> setite: what firewall did you install?
[08:46] <mz2> is there a keyb shortcut for opening the next level in the flashy new list view in Nautilus
[08:46] <setite> none.. but i heard in here that ubuntu has some sort of firewall like thing installed
[08:46] <benplaut> mz2: i think it's ctrl+click
[08:46] <setite> i want to be open like an amsterdam prostitute... no limits
[08:47] <benplaut> or some modifier+click
[08:47] <aru> hah
[08:47] <mz2> as in ctrl+click or so on the folder (none of the obvious ctrl, alt, or shift seem to do it)
[08:47] <Velox> HappyFool: should I install GRUB to a floppy, then update the menu.lst to read hd1 after I get in Ubuntu?
[08:47] <darkheart> setite Yeah, it's built into the kernel and it's called 'iptables' Try 'iptables --flush' to remove all the rules.
[08:47] <mz2> benplaut, nope
[08:47] <dabar> setite: it is open, then.
[08:47] <HappyFool> Velox: well, no just that; you also need to run 'grub-install' somehow
[08:47] <mz2> i meant in the similar way as if i clicked on the arrow on the left to sort of open it up in the same view without actually "going" to the folder
[08:47] <HappyFool> !grub
[08:47] <ubotu> hmm... grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:47] <HappyFool> Velox: those links might help a bit
[08:47] <anabatic> anyone know of a newsreader with .nzb support for ubuntu ?
[08:47] <jaqkar> dabar: tried it, still cant ping
[08:47] <setite> ok because when i run azureus i get uPnP error and something else... and a listen of 6881 had a NAT error
[08:48] <dabar> can you ping the ubuntu box?
[08:48] <riv> Video Drivers.
[08:48] <riv> for laptops
[08:48] <Velox> I'll take a look. Ubuntu install detected my SATA drive however...
[08:48] <jaqkar> dabar: yes
[08:48] <HappyFool> !ati
[08:48] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:48] <HappyFool> !nvidia
[08:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[08:48] <riv> !intel
[08:48] <ubotu> riv: Are you on ritalin?
[08:49] <riv> yes
[08:49] <HappyFool> riv: you can look at those links for nvidia/ati; i'm don't know what you can do for other hardware
[08:49] <riv> actually I am
[08:49] <aru> heh
[08:49] <dabar> jaqkar: oh, wow...
[08:49] <dabar> you can ping ubuntu from the windows?
[08:49] <jaqkar> dabar: ?
[08:50] <wickers> How's everyone today?
[08:50] <dabar> ping 192.168.1.3 works on windows?
[08:50] <riv> Sigh.  Are people answering my question and I'm just not getting it or is it that no one knows the answer?
[08:50] <jaqkar> dabar: yes i can and the router
[08:50] <gmoore> dabar: yes
[08:50] <dabar> gmoore: no.
[08:50] <jaqkar> dabar: yes it does
[08:50] <Seveas> riv, what's the question?
[08:50] <gmoore> dabar: butts
[08:50] <riv> I can't get into xwindows on my laptop
[08:50] <gmoore> anyone know of a good ruby ide?
[08:50] <riv> The question is why?
[08:50] <dabar> gmoore: did you have a message for me?
[08:51] <zerboxx> wickers: I'm pretty good, thanks (Yourself?) trying to get a script working in fvwm, but I have no idea how :)
[08:51] <setite> dabar?
[08:51] <chicken_> riv, startx
[08:51] <setite> having NAT errors
[08:51] <riv> chicken_: black screen.
[08:51] <setite> whats that abotu
[08:51] <dabar> what now setite? are you all weird?
[08:51] <dabar> or is my IRC client sending you weird messages?
[08:51] <setite> i thought you were talking to me about pinging
[08:51] <darkheart> gmoore Isn't rails an IDE for ruby?
[08:51] <dabar> setite: no.
[08:51] <tristanmike> I'm in unfamiliar territory with laptops and I REALLY want to get one but I don't know where to start. Does anyone wanna have a chat about my options/
[08:51] <dabar> jaqkar:  even pinging the router, 192.168.1.1 works?
[08:51] <chicken_> riv, startx <program>  put the location of a program in like /usr/bin/gaim
[08:52] <setite> !ubuntuguide
[08:52] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[08:52] <jaqkar> dabar: you said i shouldnt laugh...
[08:52] <setite> wrong answer
[08:52] <dabar> hah.
[08:52] <jaqkar> dabar: yeah even pinging the router works
[08:52] <jaqkar> dabar: so its seems ubuntu isnt forwarding packets or natting or somethin
[08:53] <dabar> try pinging my router, then, jaqkar. 206.45.184.152
[08:53] <Flonne> Kyral, sorry it took so long -- I had to go AFK.
[08:53] <Flonne> Kyral, sed ':loop; $!N; s/\n/ /g; t loop' <file>
[08:53] <jaqkar> dabar: nope
[08:54] <riv> chicken_: black screen
[08:54] <marathonracer> hello together
[08:54] <firebird619> Hi, I am trying to put some photos onto a CD in Linux. It is a new blank CD and the capacity is 700 MB, however, when I try to burn the CD it says Reload Blank Disc Please replace the disc in the drive with a blank disc, with at least 682 MiB free. Can anyone help me solve this issue?
[08:54] <Flonne> Kyral, that should remove all new lines from a file and replace them with spaces.
[08:54] <dabar> doesnt work, eh....paste your interfaces file.
[08:54] <dabar> hey!!!
[08:54] <HappyFool> riv: you can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for some error messages
[08:55] <anabatic> can someone help here with enlightenment e16 , having taskbar issues
[08:55] <dabar> sudo gedit /etc/network/options, change the first line no to a yes, jaqkar
[08:55] <darkheart> e16 has a taskbar?
[08:55] <anabatic> well a bar .
[08:55] <anabatic> dunno what elseto call it
[08:55] <darkheart> anabatic Which bar?
[08:55] <riv> HappyFool: Yes, I did that.  It doesn't like DRI
[08:55] <HappyFool> riv: you could perhaps try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure your X settings
[08:56] <darkheart> anabatic Oh yeah..that thing at the top?
[08:56] <WhyvasMCT> anyone know of a fast mirror for breezy?
[08:56] <riv> HappyFool: what settings would you suggest?
[08:56] <HappyFool> riv: um. i think it tries to detect your hardware etc
[08:56] <riv> yes... but that didn't work.
[08:56] <HappyFool> riv: otherwise, choose conservative settings
[08:57] <riv> such as?
[08:57] <HappyFool> such as lesser video resolutions
[08:57] <darkheart> anabatic Hide it? Just make it go away?
[08:57] <HappyFool> i'm afraid i haven't run the configure for a while, i've forgotten the choices
[08:57] <chicken_> riv, did it work ?
[08:58] <riv> chicken_: did what work?
[08:58] <dabar> jaqkar: what did you do, did you change that options file?
[08:58] <Carolyn> Hey guys
[08:58] <dabar> hey carlyn
[08:58] <dabar> Carolyn:
[08:58] <riv> chicken_: the answer is probably no, but I want to be sure.
[08:58] <jaqkar> dabar: yes
[08:58] <Carolyn> I have a question: the program Totem won't play my music I am running on the LIve Ubuntu disc
[08:58] <jaqkar> dabar: gimmi 5min's
[08:58] <dabar> yup
[08:59] <HappyFool> riv: do you know what hardware you have? maybe googling for it + ubuntu, or linux will help.
[08:59] <Carolyn> is there a newer version of totem? or can I get away with downloading Winamp?
[08:59] <Carolyn> but other then that how are you guys doin?
[08:59] <dabar> can they install the codecs in the live cd?
[09:00] <badbean> o_o"
[09:00] <Carolyn> I'm not too sure... I am sure I can download a new version
[09:00] <faen> anyone having problems connecting to ftp2.caliu.info
[09:00] <dabar> can you install stuff?
[09:00] <Carolyn> but mind you the settings won't be saved
[09:00] <dabar> we are fine, how are you...
[09:01] <Carolyn> I am pretty good  dabar :)
[09:01] <faen> I can't connect to ftp2.caliu.info nor can I add nooms repository
[09:01] <dabar> good stuff.:)
[09:01] <faen> whyfor, I have no idea
[09:01] <HappyFool> Carolyn: there are other media players besides totem; i doubt you will easily get winamp working on ubuntu (i may be wrong?)
[09:01] <dabar> no reason to anyhow,.
[09:01] <dabar> Carolyn: can you install things?
[09:01] <riv> HappyFool: Yes, I have the intel Express Chipset and about 20 tabs open in the back telling me I want i915 drivers
[09:02] <dabar> From the Internet.
[09:02] <faen> Carolyn, xmms and beep media player are the closest to winamp
[09:02] <dabar> While using the Live CD.
[09:02] <HappyFool> riv: standby
[09:02] <Carolyn> Ive tried to install other stuffs for Mozilla
[09:02] <faen> and a heap better IMHO
[09:02] <leonel> enable universe  and install vlc  it plays  mpg  mov  wmv  and many more
[09:02] <Carolyn> but Mozilla was like Oh your running on Linux CD
[09:02] <dabar> leonel: can they install stuff on the live CD?
[09:02] <Carolyn> what is the totem website?
[09:04] <HappyFool> riv: hmm, well, your card is not (obviously) here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[09:04] <leonel> whoops  I don't know  haven't used  live cds
[09:04] <dabar> Carolyn: google for totem.
[09:05] <riv> HappyFool:  Yes, I was affraid of that.
[09:05] <bender_> sup
[09:05] <HappyFool> riv: hmm, but this says someone got it to work: http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/dell-latitude-d410.html
[09:06] <riv> home grown patch
[09:06] <HappyFool> riv: looks like he just had problems with DRI though; i.e., basic stuff worked ?
[09:06] <HappyFool> err
[09:07] <HappyFool> that is, vga out, not dri
[09:07] <riv> well I just found this:  http://sans.nada.kth.se/~orjan/D410.html
[09:08] <HappyFool> do you have a dell d410 ?
[09:08] <riv> no
[09:08] <Carolyn> I've tried to do that
[09:09] <riv> but I do have the intel motherboard
[09:09] <riv> with the express chipset.
[09:09] <Carolyn> it recognizes the Ubuntu and it didn't like the live cd thing
[09:09] <asparagus> how do i make my pcmcia wifi card work on ubuntu on my powerbook?
[09:09] <riv> from gateways website "Intel Extreme Graphics 2 integrated in Northbridge 915GM"
[09:10] <HappyFool> riv: hmm
[09:10] <HappyFool> riv: if that page you posted is correct, you need a pre-release driver from xorg
[09:10] <riv> which, I'm guessing, is what the i915 drivers are for
[09:11] <kootox> I have a problem for my printer someone can help (Espon C20UX which prints white pages)
[09:11] <riv> oh
[09:11] <kootox> ??
[09:11] <darkheart> riv What were you having trouble with?
[09:11] <riv> how does one go about that?
[09:11] <dabar> later
[09:11] <dabar> or actuallty....
[09:11] <Lylat> how to define modprobe.conf?
[09:11] <riv> darkheart: My gateway laptop is not getting into X
[09:12] <chicken_> riv, try reinstalling X
[09:12] <riv> darkheart:and probably needs the i915 drivers.
[09:12] <chicken_> riv, and the X windows manager
[09:13] <HappyFool> riv: i'm not sure; i guess you need to get a recent Xorg source, and compile and install it. likely to be complex
[09:13] <riv> mmmm
[09:14] <omp342> ubuntu won't boot =/
[09:14] <chicken_> omp342, why ?
[09:14] <asparagus> how do i make my pcmcia wifi card work on ubuntu on my powerbook?
[09:14] <HappyFool> riv: http://freedesktop.org/Software/xorg
[09:15] <omp342> i followed these steps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriversHowto/ATI
[09:15] <omp342> and rebooted
[09:15] <omp342> and now it wont open
[09:15] <omp342> im using win xp now =/
[09:15] <DekaPink> I tried to show my friend the Ubuntu live CD the other day... She wouldn't have any of it. My other friend and I had to restrain her... lol... but then the CD didn't boot. --; Her CD drive is screwed up and doesn't seem to work. :3
[09:15] <jaqkar> dabar: still here
[09:15] <omp342> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:15] <chicken_> omp342, Does Gnome not start ?
[09:15] <omp342> that actualy
[09:15] <riv> HappyFool: thanks
[09:15] <dabar> ya
[09:15] <Lylat> hello, how to define modprobe.conf?
[09:15] <bender_> whos have driver problems?
[09:15] <jaqkar> dabar: oki im almost ready
[09:15] <bender_> and with what
[09:16] <omp342> when it gets to the part where its supposed to display the login field so i can log in
[09:16] <omp342> it just stays black
[09:16] <omp342> it doesnt show up
[09:16] <kootox> I have a problem for my printer someone can help (Espon C20UX which prints white pages whereas it prints the test page)
[09:16] <chicken_> omp342, ot sounds like you have messed up X try removeing that drive
[09:16] <dabar> jaqkar: what have you done?
[09:17] <bender_> omp342 what is the problem
[09:17] <omp342> k
[09:17] <itay_> hi!
[09:17] <chicken_> omp342, driver*
[09:17] <itay_> I have some problems with the X server, I can't run a few applications
[09:17] <EasterSunshine> if soemthing gets sent to stderr within a bash script, would the script abort?
[09:17] <omp342> bender_, i followed these steps, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and now ubuntu won't work =/
[09:17] <NetGeek> anyone using colony 3
[09:17] <itay_> the error is: couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:17] <bender_> omp342 be a little more vague please
[09:17] <bender_> what is it doing
[09:18] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: it shouldn't; that should simply send text to the stderr stream
[09:18] <NetGeek> is it safe enough for a non-critical laptop
[09:18] <EasterSunshine> hmm...interesting...
[09:18] <omp342> bender_, when it gets to the area where the login field is supposed to show up, it just stays black
[09:18] <chicken_> omp342, remove the driver, if that don't work reinstall X and the X windows manager
[09:18] <omp342> okay
[09:18] <omp342> ill brb
[09:18] <bender_> omp342
[09:19] <krueger> Ey!
[09:19] <kootox> somebody for my printer problem?????
[09:19] <HappyFool> itay_: if you have an nvidia/ati card, you can try installing the drivers provided by ubuntu
[09:19] <omp342> ya
[09:19] <Carolyn> I want to see if Winamp does stuff
[09:19] <bender_> re run the x config
[09:19] <bender_> that will get your basic X back
[09:19] <itay_> HappyFool, I already did it.
[09:19] <bender_> then work from there
[09:19] <HappyFool> Carolyn: winamp is for windows, not linux, unless I'm wrong
[09:19] <omp342> how do i do that? :D
[09:19] <bender_> you can get winamp for *nix
[09:19] <Carolyn> Well it didn't seem to complain yet
[09:19] <chicken_> @bender_ ooops i forgot about that lol
[09:19] <Velox> Hello...I recently came in with the GRUB problem, well I loaded up the LiveCD, will I be able to fix it from here?
[09:19] <bender_> omp342 hold one sec so i can make sure i give you the right command
[09:19] <Carolyn> probably is for windows
[09:20] <HappyFool> itay_: if you run 'glxinfo|grep direct' in a terminal, what output do you get?
[09:20] <omp342> ok
[09:20] <CyberMad> ok brb
[09:20] <omp342> and if it matters, i have the amd64 version
[09:20] <Carolyn> certainly doesn't hurt to try
[09:20] <CyberMad> test the apt-get
[09:20] <bender_> xorg right omp342
[09:20] <itay_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:20] <itay_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:20] <omp342> that's probably why the driver didnt work
[09:20] <ifr> Hi, what was the way to see what programs are using a particular mounted drive, if you want to umount and get the message that it's busy?
[09:20] <omp342> ya
[09:20] <OwnageLinux> yo
[09:20] <itay_> I got the first error a lot of times
[09:20] <bender_> omp342 xorgconfig
[09:20] <OwnageLinux> guys do u no how to get wine to work?
[09:20] <HappyFool> itay_: if you run 'glxinfo|grep direct' in a terminal, what output do you get?
[09:20] <chicken_> ifr, fs ?
[09:20] <omp342> ok
[09:21] <CyberMad> damn... it's work dude
[09:21] <omp342> thanks
[09:21] <CyberMad> yudi@earth:~$ sudo apt-get install crossover
[09:21] <CyberMad> Password:
[09:21] <CyberMad> Reading package lists... Done
[09:21] <itay_> HappyFool, I wrote it, here it is again:
[09:21] <bender_> omp342 lemme know if it works
[09:21] <ifr> chicken_ sorry, uh, what?
[09:21] <dabar> Carolyn: you need to learn how to install things in ubuntu/debian.
[09:21] <HappyFool> itay_: hmm
[09:21] <HappyFool> ok
[09:21] <CyberMad> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:21] <CyberMad> E: Couldn't find package crossover
[09:21] <omp342> okay
[09:21] <itay_> HappyFool, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:21] <itay_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:21] <chicken_> ifr, type fs in a terminal
[09:21] <OwnageLinux> anynone know how to work wine?
[09:21] <ifr> The  drive I'm trying to umount is a samba fs drive
[09:21] <ifr> Ah.
[09:21] <ifr> nick@un1-dosa:~$ sudo fs
[09:21] <CyberMad> do you know what is keyword for crossover?
[09:21] <ifr> command not found
[09:21] <riv> HappyFool:  This guy says he's just using the kernel driver i915.... where would I find such a think if it exited?
[09:21] <riv> http://rasher.dk/UbuntuOnMyBook255.html
[09:22] <Carolyn> Nevermind
[09:22] <chicken_> ifr, errrm i know it's some thing like that
[09:22] <Carolyn> the Winamp disappeared without a trace
[09:22] <OwnageLinux> how do i get Wine to work?
[09:22] <ifr> are you thinking of df?
[09:22] <bender_> ok im bord. who are the newbletts in here so i can make use of my day by helping other
[09:22] <bender_> s
[09:22] <ifr> That's not the problem - I know what's mounted, I want to know what's using it.
[09:22] <Carolyn> yah thats silly
[09:22] <dabar> Carolyn: you should use synaptic, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto . Then you need to learn how to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto . then you need to learn about mp3 support for Ubuntu linux: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <chicken_> ifr, ahh yea thats it
[09:23] <darkheart> df will just give you disk usage.
[09:23] <HappyFool> riv: the stuff at the top says he has different hardware (i910 / i855GM); anyway, let me see if i have an i915.ko file
[09:23] <ifr> Yes, that wasn't it though, as far as what I needed. Anyone? like a top to show what's using a particular drive? I ps au 'd it but nada
[09:23] <chicken_> ifr, try mount
[09:24] <ifr> chicken_ I think you don't understand my question
[09:24] <ifr> but thanks for trying
[09:24] <HappyFool> riv: ok, i do have one
[09:24] <c0rrupt_> im eating chicken breast
[09:24] <WhyvasMCT> !breezy
[09:24] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:24] <riv> HappyFool: neat!
[09:24] <HappyFool> riv: that means you do too (or you should)
[09:24] <HappyFool> riv: what does 'lsmod|grep i915' say ?
[09:24] <chicken_> c0rrupt, stop eating me !!
[09:24] <darkheart> ifr I'm not sure what the command is you are looking for (I would like to know also), but are you trying to umount it from within the directory?
[09:24] <Carolyn> Thanks dabar lemme try that out
[09:25] <dabar> yup
[09:25] <HappyFool> ifr: maybe lsof or fuser
[09:25] <dabar> jaqkar: you are not waiting for a reply from me, are you?
[09:25] <OwnageLinux> will someone answer meh?
[09:25] <BockBilbo> whats the best way to install the latest OpenOffice.org 2.0 (1.9.m122) in ubuntu? Get the rpm files from oo.org and make debs using alien?
[09:25] <HappyFool> itay_: hmm. it sounds like you haven't correctly installed the drivers, but i don't know. i thought glxinfo would work, regardless
[09:25] <faen> OwnageLinux, huh?
[09:26] <chicken_> ifr, did you say yoy wanted to unmont some thing ?, look in /etc/fstab
[09:26] <itay_> HappyFool, when X starts I see the nvidia splash screen
[09:26] <Velox> HappyFool: I booted into the LiveCD, can I run grub-install from here and whatever else I need to do to get GRUB working correctly?
[09:26] <riv> HappyFool: it says i915  and drm   i915
[09:26] <HappyFool> eek
[09:26] <darkheart> chicken_ He wants to find out what is using something on the mounted drive so he can stop it to unmount it.
[09:26] <dabar> OwnageLinux: install it.
[09:26] <HappyFool> Velox: you should be able to; those wiki pages should tell you how
[09:27] <faen> bah, apt-get update is hanging..
[09:27] <HappyFool> Velox: you need to do some other stuff (chroot, etc.)
[09:27] <faen> ftp2.caliu.info is down it seems
[09:27] <HappyFool> Velox: you can't just run 'grub-install' -- read those pages
[09:27] <Velox> !grub
[09:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:27] <HappyFool> itay_: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is
[09:27] <faen> Err ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-extras Release.gpg
[09:27] <faen>   Could not connect to ftp2.caliu.info:21 (147.83.29.16), connection timed out
[09:27] <chicken_> faen, ping it to check
[09:28] <riv> HappyFool:  It seems I have them too... now do I get them to be used?
[09:28] <HappyFool> riv: that's kernel level 'drivers' -- there might still be an X problem
[09:28] <riv> oh
[09:28] <chicken_> riv, reinstall X !
[09:29] <faen> no ping reply
[09:29] <faen> hanging
[09:29] <faen> --- ftp2.caliu.info ping statistics ---
[09:29] <faen> 71 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 70000ms
[09:29] <OwnageLinux> dabar: how do i install it...?
[09:29] <HappyFool> riv: hmm, googling for 'ubuntu i915gm' reveals some hits...
[09:29] <Psyco> hi
[09:29] <HappyFool> riv: do you have a 'Gateway M210' ?
[09:29] <Psyco> I have installed mldonkey
[09:29] <krueger> hi
[09:30] <dabar> sudo aptitude install wine.
[09:30] <Psyco> but the list of servers is empty
[09:30] <faen> Psyco, look at the mldonkey homepage
[09:30] <faen> or read the man file
[09:30] <dabar> OwnageLinux: it is in universe, so adding universe to your repositories would be good.
[09:30] <OwnageLinux> when i open the repositories on synaptic and click add it just selects one of the files... its weird
[09:30] <Psyco> however the file servers.ini seems to have the information of the servers
[09:30] <Psyco> ok
[09:30] <dabar> to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto .
[09:31] <zxc2> does anyone else find that ubuntuguide lags like hell?
[09:31] <Psyco> faen, I will
[09:31] <chicken_> zxc2, not if your using lynx
[09:31] <speedy> hi all!
[09:31] <Psyco> thanks for the help, anyway
[09:32] <chicken_> hi
[09:32] <Velox> Okay, mounted up my system and such, chrooted it, now running /sbin/grub-install /dev/hdd says: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:32] <chicken_> can some one tell me the day today i've forgot
[09:33] <Velox> Aug 19th
[09:33] <Velox> Friday
[09:33] <chicken_> woohoo friday
[09:33] <HappyFool> Velox: hmm
[09:33] <Velox> I mounted it under hdd1, so I have the right drive
[09:33] <HappyFool> Velox: does that machine have net access? can you browse the web from it (as it is now) ?
[09:34] <Velox> I'm on the machine now HappyFool
[09:34] <chicken_> i am making a website :P http://80.6.146.2
[09:34] <Velox> From X-Chat
[09:34] <riv> HappyFool: GatewayM250
[09:34] <HappyFool> Velox: ok, can you paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ? and the output of 'mount' ? (you can put it on the same page)
[09:35] <Velox> Sure, give me a min
[09:35] <FR500> hello
[09:35] <manish> hi - i'm having the following problem.  I installed vnc yesterday.  And it works ok from the console.  But when I run a vncserver on the machine - and use a vnc client to work - my keyboard settings are all screwed up.  When I first logged on - it gave me a warning that my X settings and gnome settings are different and asked me to choose.  I chose gnome settings.  But the keyboard setting got messed up.  I don't know how to fix this - can so
[09:35] <FR500> does anyone use mergeant?
[09:36] <dabar> no, not even the people that use it.
[09:36] <FR500> uh?
[09:36] <dabar> are you taking a poll?
[09:36] <FR500> no, i need help on it
[09:36] <Velox> HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1401
[09:36] <HappyFool> riv: hmm. ok, that doesn't give so many hits on google
[09:36] <dabar> FR500: ask.
[09:37] <omp342> hmm xorgconfig asks me too many complicated questions =o
[09:37] <HappyFool> riv: but people generally don't seem to have problems with the i915
[09:37] <FR500> i try to connect to my mysql server, it works using mysqladmin for instance, but here, when i hit connect it does nothing
[09:38] <dabar> now save that question, and ask later if you dont get an answer now.
[09:38] <FR500> lol
[09:38] <FR500> ok
[09:38] <manish> hi - does anyone know how to fix problems with keyboard settings on ubuntu.  My keyboard works fine on the console - but when use my lptop to vnc to the ubuntu host machine - everything is messed up.
[09:38] <itay> somebody knows how to solve my GLX problem?
[09:38] <riv> HappyFool: ok, so how do I get the i915 drivers?
[09:39] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[09:39] <dabar> operator status.
[09:39] <ompaul> oped :)
[09:39] <itay> the error is: Xlib:
[09:39] <itay> extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[09:39] <bender_> omp342
[09:40] <bender_> you couldnt figure it out?
[09:40] <omp342> it asked me like 50 questions about my mouse and keyboard and stuff
[09:40] <omp342> and my monitors refresh rate and stuff like that
[09:40] <HappyFool> Velox: hmm
[09:40] <omp342> i dont have that all memorized :D
[09:40] <chicken_> omp342, lol
[09:40] <omp342> should i just reinstall ubuntu
[09:41] <omp342> as i just installed it yesterday
[09:41] <omp342> i have nothing to lose
[09:41] <HappyFool> Velox: what about 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdd' ?
[09:41] <chicken_> omp342, no lol you will be wateing time
[09:41] <OwnageLinux> lol
[09:41] <chicken_> wateing*
[09:41] <FR500> omp342: what is the isse again?
[09:41] <chicken_> wasteing8
[09:41] <OwnageLinux> adding a repository is confusing
[09:41] <Velox> root@ubuntu:/ # grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hdd
[09:41] <Velox> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[09:41] <Velox> Could not find device for /boot/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:41] <omp342> isse?
[09:41] <FR500> issue
[09:41] <ompaul> omp342, so get the data stick it in a document and push it onto a piece of paper if that is all you altered, if there is more then maybe yes :) and if you do you can learn more about the install by seeing it for a second time :)
[09:41] <Velox> Ack, oops.
[09:42] <Velox> Sorry about multiple lines.
[09:42] <HappyFool> riv: assuming the i915GM works out-the-box (which it seems to, if these web pages are to be believed), you shouldn't need to do anything
[09:42] <ompaul> Velox, --root-directory=/ might help
[09:42] <OwnageLinux> can someone explain to me how to install wine its way confusing
[09:42] <FR500> apt-get install wine?
[09:42] <Velox> ompaul: Still no dice, Could not find device for //boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:42] <chicken_> OwnageLinux, apt-get install wine
[09:43] <OwnageLinux> how do i do that
[09:43] <chicken_> OwnageLinux, there is also an auto-configure thing some where
[09:43] <ompaul> Velox, hmm let me look at something
[09:43] <kemik> wine-utils
[09:43] <kemik> or wineutils..
[09:43] <Velox> Hmm, in the boot directory I now have a boot folder with a grub folder inside.
[09:43] <omp342> to get wine
[09:43] <dabar> I have xmms-mp4 installed, yet xmms still cant play mp4 files. It kinda ignores that I loaded a file to play at all, since when I press play it asks which file to play, by opening a open dialog.
[09:43] <omp342> wont you need
[09:43] <riv> HappyFool: but I don't see i915 as an option when I configure
[09:43] <omp342> msttcorefonts?
[09:44] <riv> HappyFool: I only see i850
[09:44] <ompaul> Velox, did you try grub-install /dev/hdd ?
[09:44] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[09:45] <Velox> ompaul: Yes
[09:45] <manish> hi i need some help with my keyboard settings - can someone help me?
[09:45] <ompaul> Velox, and ?
[09:45] <FR500> dabar: asq the question :d
[09:45] <HappyFool> riv: and i810 ?
[09:45] <Velox> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:45] <chickenman> manish, what is you problem ?
[09:45] <FR500> asparagus: try iwlist scan
[09:46] <FR500> asparagus: to see if it can find your ap
[09:46] <ompaul> Velox, please paste the output of /etc/fstab into a pastebin
[09:46] <dabar> FR500: how can I make it play, it is obvious from what I said.
[09:46] <Arnia> Can anyone explain how to install the header files for libpoppler without losing ubuntu-desktop?
[09:46] <manish> my keyboard works fine.  but when i use vnc from the laptop - everything is messed up.  when i did it the first time it said gnome setting and x setting are different and asked me to choose - i chose gnome.  probably should hav chosen x.  now i need to change it back
[09:46] <dabar> ubuntu-desktop is ok to be lost.
[09:46] <ompaul> Velox, and the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:46] <asparagus> FR500, it says interface doesnt support scanning
[09:46] <ompaul> Velox, what operating systems are on that machine?
[09:46] <manish> chickenman:  problem above.  and i don't know how to use X keyboard setting when i vnc to the machine
[09:47] <riv> HappyFool: well, thanks for the help.. I'm giving up for now and getting something to eat.
[09:47] <ompaul> Velox, which partitions are they on
[09:47] <chickenman> manish, errrm try reconfigureing X
[09:47] <Velox> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1402
[09:47] <HappyFool> riv: sorry i couldn't help more
[09:47] <manish> chickenman: how do i reconfigure X?
[09:47] <Velox> ompaul, I have Ubuntu and Windows XP, Windows is on /dev/sda1
[09:47] <Zeroblitzt> OK, I just reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday, and my sound won't work again. I have alsa installed (I think it did it automatically upon installation), but it still wont work. XMMS just scrolls through my playlist really fast until it hits the end.
[09:47] <Zeroblitzt> How can I fix this?
[09:47] <Velox> Ubuntu is on /dev/hdd1
[09:47] <HappyFool> ompaul: see this too http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1401 (Velox's 'sudo fdisk -l' and 'mount')
[09:47] <cyphase> why does ubuntu have trouble declaring it's name to a router?
[09:48] <ompaul> HappyFool, thanks
[09:48] <cyphase> and it goes on and off
[09:48] <chickenman> manish, errrrm i've forgot
[09:48] <cyphase> both my ubuntu machines are only ip addresses to the router
[09:48] <Pogopuschel-> cyphase: what goes on and off?
[09:48] <seife> man
[09:48] <WhyvasMCT> what card do you have cyphase?
[09:49] <seife> i couldnt plug
[09:49] <zoexi> hello, can I get help with brokenn sound?
[09:49] <seife> the disk where i was going to install ubuntu
[09:49] <manish> chickenman:  I don't even have XF86Config in /etc
[09:49] <seife> i unpluged my two HDs
[09:49] <Velox> Heh ompaul.
[09:49] <seife> then pluged my extra one
[09:49] <ompaul> !tell zoexi about ask
[09:49] <manish> chickenman: ubuntu is very different from redhat
[09:49] <seife> IDE1 cable to my HD
[09:49] <Zeroblitzt> Can anybody help?
[09:49] <Velox> sda isn't touched whatsoever...its my NTFS drive.
[09:49] <seife> then i plugged the power cable
[09:49] <zoexi> ask?
[09:49] <seife> and when i turn on the comp
[09:49] <chickenman> what is the command to configure X ?
[09:49] <seife> it says checking NVram
[09:50] <jaqkar> dabar: you still here?
[09:50] <HappyFool> manish: to reconfigure X, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:50] <seife> 125215 OK
[09:50] <seife> and it stops there
[09:50] <dabar> ye
[09:50] <seife> it dont detect the HD
[09:50] <HappyFool> manish: if you want to twiddle a config file, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:50] <Zeroblitzt> OK, I just reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday, and my sound won't work again. I have alsa installed (I think it did it automatically upon installation), but it still wont work. XMMS just scrolls through my playlist really fast until it hits the end.
[09:50] <jaqkar> dabar: still dont wanna ping
[09:50] <Velox> Zeroblitzt: if they're MP3s, do you need LAME?
[09:50] <dabar> whatchu do?
[09:50] <Zeroblitzt> Im pretty sure I already have it
[09:51] <dabar> what did yuou do.
[09:51] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, do you have mp3 support codecs installed ?
[09:51] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: do you here any sounds? e.g., login sound etc?
[09:51] <ompaul> Velox, what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:51] <OwnageLinux> i got the wine files... but in the synaptic how do i chose to download them
[09:51] <jaqkar> dabar: changed /etc/network/options and if down/up
[09:51] <Zeroblitzt> HappyFool --> No
[09:52] <chickenman> OwnageLinux, right click on them
[09:52] <Zeroblitzt> I dont have LAME installed
[09:52] <WhyvasMCT> CHICKEN NECKS?
[09:52] <Velox> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1403
[09:52] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: have you checked the mute/volume settings? (double click on the speaker next to the clock at the top-right to check)
[09:52] <Zeroblitzt> Its at the max
[09:52] <Zeroblitzt> 100%
[09:53] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: ok, and not muted?
[09:53] <ompaul> Velox, I was reading that before I checked in the channel :)
[09:53] <omp342> im reinstalling right now =] 
[09:53] <zoexi> right then, system sounds play, gnome startup sounds play, audio cds play.  I get no sound out of mp3s or videos.  I play with settings and have no luck.  how can i know what is broken?
[09:53] <Zeroblitzt> nope
[09:53] <dabar> jaqkar: now ip_forward is on...eh?
[09:53] <seife> man
[09:53] <seife> noboy helpsme in this channel
[09:53] <seife> sigh
[09:53] <chickenman> omp342, ubuntu ?
[09:53] <chickenman> omp342, or X ?
[09:53] <jaqkar> dabar: yup
[09:53] <Velox> Heh, I'm totally out of my depth with GRUB.
[09:53] <omp342> ya
[09:53] <omp342> ubuntu
[09:53] <dabar> ok, I am off for now.
[09:53] <dabar> sorry it did not work yet...
[09:53] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: ok, what sound hardware do you have? do you know?
[09:53] <chickenman> omp342, should have reinstalled X
[09:53] <crispin> so, my network card isn't raised on bootup, which package should I raise the bug report against ?
[09:54] <jaqkar> :p
[09:54] <OwnageLinux> chickenman: if they're green or orange does it mean they're d/l ing?
[09:54] <Zeroblitzt> Creative Labs Soundblaster Live!
[09:54] <dabar> :)
[09:54] <dabar> Im a tired maca.
[09:54] <jaqkar> :)
[09:54] <chickenman> OwnageLinux, click the accept button at the top or download or some thing like that
[09:55] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: ought to work, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[09:55] <asparagus> FR500, it says interface doesnt support scanning
[09:55] <ompaul> I just wonder if 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot/grub h0,0' its been a while since I fixed a grub partition (a long while start of 04 iirc
[09:55] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, do you have onboard sound card as well on your motherboard ?
[09:55] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: what does 'cat /proc/asound/modules' say ?
[09:55] <jaqkar> guys dabar helped me to install dnsmasq with dhcp and ipmasq but we cant seem to get the ubuntu box to forward requests
[09:55] <Zeroblitzt> LinuxJones -> yes
[09:55] <Zeroblitzt> HappyFool, one second
[09:55] <ompaul> velox : I just wonder if 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot/grub h0,0' its been a while since I fixed a grub partition (a long while start of 04 iirc
[09:56] <HappyFool> Zeroblitzt: LinuxJones may be on the right track
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> knovak@knovak1:~ $ cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> 0 snd_emu10k1
[09:56] <Zeroblitzt> 1 snd_bt87x
[09:56] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, right click the sound icon then go preferences
[09:56] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, select the alsa device and click ok
[09:56] <Kira> Does someone have a recommendation for a PPPoE dialer in Ubuntu?
[09:56] <omp342_> ill be back after i install ubuntu, this laptops battery is going out of charge
[09:57] <Zeroblitzt> o
[09:57] <Zeroblitzt> k
[09:57] <Velox> root@ubuntu:/boot/grub # grub-install --root-directory=/boot/grub hd0,0 Could not find device for /boot/grub/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:57] <ompaul> Kira, ppp oe and dialer ... emm network or dialer?
[09:57] <dabar> Kira: pppoe does not dial.. use pppoeconf in a termional to set it up
[09:57] <OwnageLinux> the updates after i installed linux took like 2 hours
[09:57] <Zeroblitzt> XMMS is still speeding through my playlist like all hell
[09:57] <Kira> well, I said "dialer" simply for lack of a better word.
[09:57] <HappyFool> xmms needs to be told to use esd; however, i wouldn't worry about that until you can get basic sounds working
[09:57] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, then run gstreamer-properties , select alsa from the list then hit "test" for output sink (the top one)
[09:57] <ompaul> Kira, pppoe - system - settings - networking
[09:58] <Velox> grub-install: Thou dost so wound my Linux.
[09:58] <supernix>  what did they change in the latest kernel image ?
[09:58] <Psyco> hi anyone knows how to load the server list on mldonkey?
[09:58] <ompaul> Velox, what be the stat of the situation now boldrick?
[09:58] <zoexi> failed to construct test pipeline,
[09:58] <Zeroblitzt> hey, it worked I think
[09:58] <Zeroblitzt> my friend IMed me and I got an annoying sound
[09:58] <Kira> So the default install of Hoary comes with the packages to use PPPoE?
[09:58] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, sweet
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> lemme see something
[09:59] <ompaul> Velox, or whatever that characters name was :)
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> yup, works
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> thanks
[09:59] <Psyco> any idea?
[09:59] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, rhythumbox is much better than xmms btw :)
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> Rhythmbox crashed on my before
[09:59] <ompaul> Kira, is your connection to a router at this time?
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> and
[09:59] <Velox> ompaul: The command you gave me (after correcting it to be hd0,0 instead of h0,0) gave me same error.
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> It never loaded my playlists last time
[09:59] <HappyFool> Velox: have you tried the stuff in 'Recovering GRUB manually' on the wiki?
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> I'll give it another try though
[09:59] <LinuxJones> Zeroblitzt, anyway have fun :)
[09:59] <Zeroblitzt> thanks man
[09:59] <Kira> ompaul: no, switch
[10:00] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[10:00] <Velox> HappyFool: I'm going to try that now...well maybe first I should try hd0,1
[10:00] <ompaul> Velox, you know I would leave out that directory info - it is the default
[10:00] <Velox> Since it is on hdd1
[10:00] <chickenman> I am making a text based RPG in C++ :-)
[10:00] <esac> everytime i run apt, i get messages such as "W: couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04_Hoary .....  - stat (2 No such file or directory) .. any ideas ?
[10:00] <HappyFool> no, grub numbers from 0
[10:00] <supernix> Hey why don't they ever release information about what has been fixed or updated for each package they release ?
[10:00] <ompaul> Kira, so just enabling the network interface should work for you
[10:01] <zoexi> can vlc use esd?  i don't see it as an option,  and the gstreamer (multimedia system selector) thing gets no result from alsa or oss
[10:01] <HappyFool> i.e., partition 1 is ,0 -- i'm not sure that /dev/hdd is hd0, though it seems likely, given your menu.lst
[10:01] <ompaul> Velox, yes, in my opinion, I think it is over complicating stuff
[10:01] <supernix> why don't they ever release information about what has been fixed or updated for each package they release ?
[10:02] <Velox> Okay, ran manual install.
[10:02] <chickenman> @supernix, shutup
[10:02] <HappyFool> Velox: no error messages?
[10:02] <Velox> Seems to have worked.
[10:02] <HappyFool> hmm
[10:02] <ompaul> Velox, heh
[10:02] <supernix> chickenman: you need to learn to read you obviously missed the network guidelines
[10:02] <HappyFool> Velox: i guess all you need to do is reboot and see ;)
[10:02] <Velox> Indeed.
[10:02] <Velox> brb
[10:02] <chickenman> supernix, i did ?, oh well
[10:03] <Kira> pppoeconf is asking me whether to check the configuration file for noauth, nodetach, and defaultroute. What are those options? The man page of pppoeconf doesn't mention them.
[10:03] <ompaul> Velox, good luck :)
[10:03] <chickenman> Velox, what was the problem ?
[10:04] <ompaul> Kira, just enable the network card to talk tcp/ip the pppoe stuff should be on the other side of the switch and therefore not your concern (with a bit if luck())
[10:04] <zoexi> LinuxJones: you seem to knnowe things about aaudio output sinks,
[10:04] <zoexi> LinuxJones: could you help me troubleshoot?
[10:05] <sobersabre> is there a way to convert vanilla ooo2 rpm packages into ubuntu (with the proper locations etc. ) ?
[10:05] <Kira> ompaul: that's not the case.
[10:06] <ompaul> sobersabre, use the native ones - you could use alien but why when it has been build for your setop
[10:06] <Kira> ompaul: for me, each machine on my network has to log in (and yes, I get a real public IP for each machine this way).
[10:06] <ompaul> Kira, :)
[10:07] <ompaul> Kira, so are the addresses static or dynamic?
[10:07] <JHK> how is the apt command for application reinstall?
[10:07] <Velox[c] > Bah, didn't work >_<
[10:07] <digitalfox|shed> is there a channel for breezy?
[10:07] <Velox[c] > Meh, I'll just figure out how to use the Windows bootloader.
[10:07] <sobersabre> ompaul, the ooo2 packages for ubuntu are pretty out of sync now: 1.9.122 vs. 1.9.79
[10:08] <ompaul> sobersabre, and there is a reason for needing that small point jump?
[10:08] <sobersabre> I'd like to have a more recent memory eater...
[10:08] <Zeroblitzt> hmm, XMMS still wont play MP3s, even after I sset it to use the eSound output
[10:08] <Kira> ompaul: dynamic
[10:09] <ompaul> sobersabre, you are looking to create more issues for yourself alien is a program that you can use, but if it breaks your box in a bad way so be it
[10:09] <HappyFool> Velox[c] : doh
[10:09] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: where is it failing?
[10:09] <ompaul> Kira, so just choose dhcp and it should work for you
[10:09] <sobersabre> ompaul, i've never seen a "broken box" by alien, especially such a user thing like office...
[10:09] <ompaul> Kira, please try that and then if that does not work I will do some digging using uncle google
[10:09] <sobersabre> have you ?
[10:09] <noermaen> where can I change the size of the buttons in ubuntu? (Gnome, not KDE)
[10:10] <benplaut> noermaen, it's in the theme, i think
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> crimsun, it detects the MP3s and lists them all in my playlist editor
[10:10] <ompaul> sobersabre, I have seen stuff not upgradable because of it
[10:10] <Velox[c] > HappyFool: Windows loads okay, so I'll just use its bootloader.
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> But when I click one it scrolls really fast through the entire playlist until it hits the bottom
[10:10] <sobersabre> ompaul, even after removal ? :)
[10:10] <Fanskapet> yes! DSL! at last! :D
[10:10] <HappyFool> Velox[c] : ok, sorry we couldn't help.
[10:10] <sobersabre> sounds like an urban legend to me ....
[10:10] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: what about wav files?
[10:10] <chickenman> http://games101.zapto.org   My website ;-)
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> I dont have any
[10:10] <Zeroblitzt> let me test
[10:11] <supernix> why don't they ever release information about what has been fixed or updated for each package they release ? Come on surely someone else has asked this as well
[10:11] <ompaul> sobersabre, and tracking your distro is tracking your distro, making work for yourself is making work for yourself, however it is free software and I would not do it but you are free to do so :)
[10:11] <Velox[c] > HappyFool: Not your fault, thanks for taking your time to help me. ompaul too =)
[10:11] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: sure you do. See /usr/share/sounds/
[10:11] <sobersabre> ok i think i got the point, i'lll alienize it...
[10:11] <lorenzo> ewt
[10:11] <Zeroblitzt> ok
[10:11] <HappyFool> supernix: for security fixes announcements are made
[10:11] <sobersabre> i've done that on sarge already.
[10:11] <supernix> ah
[10:11] <apokryphos> supernix: which package? Packages in apt generally use a changelog
[10:11] <noermaen> i know where I can change the themes, but I'm lookin for the config-files where I can change it...
[10:11] <Psyco> please anyone knows how to load the server list in mldonkey ??
[10:11] <supernix> HappyFool: any idea where we can view changes to packages ?
[10:12] <crimsun> supernix: come again? There are links to the changelogs from the Web pages and in /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz
[10:12] <supernix> apokryphos: are you talking about aptitude ?
[10:12] <Zeroblitzt> WAVs work
[10:12] <Zeroblitzt> not MP3s
[10:12] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[10:12] <crimsun> Zeroblitzt: try installing xmms-mad
[10:12] <supernix> ok see I use synaptic and never see those
[10:12] <apokryphos> supernix: apt/synaptic/aptitude etc
[10:12] <sobersabre> ompaul, but not now, man. i am far too busy...
[10:12] <ompaul> Velox, just wondering if you disconnect the sda for a moment and check it would it work for you
[10:13] <OwnageLinux> what does that mean if u click mark installation on a repository and it becomes green
[10:13] <apokryphos> supernix: actually, not 100% that you can view them in synaptic. I always use KPackage if I ever wanna use a GUI front-end, and that certainly does
[10:13] <Zeroblitzt> crimsun, still no luck
[10:13] <Zeroblitzt> let me try something else, though
[10:14] <HappyFool> supernix: you can find the security-list archive and subscribe info on the ubuntu.com webpage, though you seem to have been given better answers already
[10:14] <chicken[away] > brb every one
[10:14] <Kira> ompaul: I got it working using pppoeconf. :)
[10:14] <OwnageLinux> what does that mean if u click mark installation on a repository and it becomes green
[10:15] <Zeroblitzt> Is there a way to chmod an entire directory and everything under it?
[10:15] <snow> chmod -Rf
[10:15] <snow> Recursive force
[10:15] <HappyFool> OwnageLinux: i think it's just a way of showing that the package has been marked
[10:15] <Zeroblitzt> ok
[10:15] <HappyFool> OwnageLinux: you should also see a yellow arrow on the little square to the left of the package name
[10:16] <zoexi> ok I just made xmms word by changing sound output to 'esound' can anyone tell me if this is possible in VLC?
[10:16] <Zeroblitzt> OK, that was my problem
[10:16] <crimsun> zoexi: install vlc-esd
[10:16] <Zeroblitzt> I was in Kubuntu when  I copied that music, so it was read only for root
[10:18] <ompaul> Kira, great
[10:20] <zoexi> awesome, it works, many thanks.
[10:20] <Kira> Now I need to install drivers and configure my wireless card...
[10:20] <Kira> Except I see this line of command and I'm not sure what the end of it means:
[10:20] <Kira> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:20] <benplaut> Kira, good luck with the wifi... it's a mess in Hoary
[10:21] <Kira> What's that $(uname -r) part about?
[10:21] <HappyFool> Kira: you can install linux-headers-386 instead
[10:21] <benplaut> it makes sure it gets it for your own kernel
[10:21] <HappyFool> Kira: assuming you have a -386 kernel
[10:22] <Kira> Ahh
[10:22] <HappyFool> Kira: it's just the version number of your kernel; type 'uname -r' and see what it outputs. the $() is bash magic
[10:22] <Kira> kewl. :D
[10:22] <k_k> i need a prog for filesharing like dc++ in ubuntu
[10:22] <ompaul> !networking
[10:22] <Velox[c] > Hmm...the Windows bootloader hands off to GRUB or LILO...that doesn't bode well for me :\
[10:22] <ubotu> ompaul: What?
[10:22] <ompaul> !networks
[10:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, networks is Menu item System - Administration - Networking and or it could be sudo pppoeconf
[10:24] <ompaul> !botsnack
[10:24] <ubotu> :)
[10:24] <ompaul> who owns the bot?
[10:24] <benplaut> caf*uego
[10:24] <HappyFool> k_k: 'apt-cache search direct connect' -- maybe dcqui or dcgui-qt are what you want
[10:25] <benplaut> (without the *)
[10:25] <r0bby> x-window-core is needed for correct?
[10:25] <ompaul> benplaut, that for me?
[10:26] <benplaut> yup
[10:26] <ompaul> benplaut, thanks
[10:26] <HappyFool> r0bby: you mean x-window-system-core ?
[10:26] <r0bby> yeh that
[10:26] <r0bby> regardless, it's needed?
[10:27] <HappyFool> if you want a graphical interface, yes
[10:27] <r0bby> also dri drivers, what are they?
[10:27] <HappyFool> i think dri is direct rendering interface; it's for fast 3D graphics
[10:28] <r0bby> but w/o them, the shit won't hit the fan right (sorry language)?
[10:29] <Kira> benplaut: it doesn't seem to be so horrible. The ubuntu wiki has a howto for my WiFi card. :)
[10:29] <ray_> anybody else have problems playing videos after that gnomemedia update?
[10:29] <HappyFool> r0bby: err. you won't get accelerated 3D graphics, if that's what you mean
[10:29] <r0bby> heh okay
[10:29] <HappyFool> r0bby: the basic system will work though
[10:30] <r0bby> that's what I wanted to know
[10:30] <halley> Anyone familiar with dh-make-perl and making .deb packages from CPAN tarballs?
[10:30] <ray_> r0bby, what card you got?
[10:30] <r0bby> I haven't used my ubuntu box locally in such a long time i forgot
[10:30] <r0bby> it's an ATI
[10:31] <ray_> r0bby, setting up ati for 3d is very easy
[10:31] <r0bby> heh yeh
[10:31] <ray_> anybody else have problems playing videos after that gnomemedia update?
[10:31] <ray_> im gonna have to reinstall just to watch videos!
[10:31] <ray_> damnit
[10:31] <samu> is there a quicktime player for ubuntu?
[10:31] <chicken-man> back
[10:32] <HappyFool> !ati
[10:32] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:32] <ray_> samu, yeah you can get mplayer and totem to play quicktime
[10:32] <Kira> !doom3
[10:32] <ubotu> Kira: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:32] <Kira> :(
[10:32] <r0bby> hehe
[10:32] <r0bby> I wasn't asking how to do it
[10:33] <arphetic> how can u see al open connections ?
[10:33] <mobydick> i installed ubuntu in english and i want to change keyboard to turkish c tied from preferences and added turkish keyboard and deleted english but i cant type tukish chareters yet what must i do?
[10:33] <TheGnome> anybody here use the 686-smp kernel?
[10:33] <arphetic> through terminal?>
[10:33] <r0bby> i was asking if it would affect the general x
[10:33] <volvoguy> TheGnome, i do.
[10:33] <TheGnome> r0bby, like how so?
[10:33] <zoexi> what are the plugins to make rythmbox work?  can I apt-get them?
[10:33] <george_> i need aid to install mplayer
[10:33] <TheGnome> volvoguy, have you experienced any problems
[10:33] <george_> and the codecs too
[10:33] <omp342> just finished reinstalling =] 
[10:34] <HappyFool> !restricted
[10:34] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:34] <HappyFool> zoexi: read that page; should tell you what to do
[10:34] <volvoguy> TheGnome, nope. not at all. i'm using it on a hyperthreaded P4 and on a true smp machine and it seems to work great.
[10:34] <setite> where do i get xvid plugin
[10:34] <TheGnome> volvoguy, yeah i have a hyperthread p4......but that gnomemedia update broke my system...so im gonna have to reinstall i think
[10:35] <TheGnome> volvoguy, should i use smp on my machine or stick to regular 686
[10:35] <volvoguy> TheGnome, i haven't rebooted yet. i may have that same problem.
[10:36] <volvoguy> TheGnome, i really like the smp kernel, but i haven't done any real benchmarking.
[10:36] <WhyvasMCT> so is breezy really broken or is it safe to install?
[10:36] <divine> a
[10:36] <ompaul> arphetic, a program called lsof - it will produce a lot of information :)
[10:36] <volvoguy> WhyvasMCT, it's pretty broken. i'd only use it if you have a spare machine.
[10:36] <chris> hi... how can i print a file to the shellscreen ?
[10:37] <TheGnome> volvoguy, yeah it sucks....... i cant get ANY videos to have sound......regular sound works....and i had sound in every video..but after that...nope......well im gonna reinstall i will talk to you in a bit
[10:37] <HappyFool> chris: maybe 'cat filename' is what you want?
[10:37] <volvoguy> TheGnome, good luck!
[10:37] <ompaul> arphetic, sorry 'netstat -ar' misread what you wrote
[10:38] <chris> HappyFool: Yes thx
[10:38] <HappyFool> chrs ompaul
[10:38] <setite> how do i find my ip?
[10:38] <chicken-man> setite, ip addr
[10:39] <benplaut> any way to make gaim make meta-contacts?
[10:42] <setite> how do i clear the iptables
[10:42] <Seveas> iptables -F
[10:42] <Seveas> (flush)
[10:43] <pablo928> Can anyine help a Apache newby? I'm trying to change /var/www contents, but I can't. What do I need to do?
[10:44] <EasterSunshine> setite: you can get you global ip `GET www.whatismyip.com | grep Your`
[10:45] <HappyFool> pablo928: what do you mean you can't change the contents? Have you tried using 'sudo' ?
[10:45] <supernix>  ty everyone for your help on the change log and thanks apokryphos for pointing me to kpackage I thought it was just for rpm files.
[10:45] <supernix> name
[10:45] <supernix> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[10:45] <supernix> summary
[10:45] <supernix> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
[10:45] <supernix> version
[10:45] <supernix> 2.6.10-34.4
[10:46] <chicken-man> what is a good mail program with pop and smtp with a GUI (i don't want any Gnome or KDE things) ?
[10:46] <pablo928> HappyFool-sudo gedit /var/www gives me anerror that this is not a regular file
[10:46] <apokryphos> Seveas: shouldn't the "Please don't use Breezy" be taken out of topic...
[10:46] <HappyFool> pablo928: yes. /var/www is a directory
[10:46] <benplaut> chicken-man, thunderbird
[10:47] <supernix> OMG sorry everyone
[10:47] <apokryphos> Seveas: seems a bit odd to have "we've got a snapshot here for the community, but please don't use it"
[10:47] <supernix> I was just trying to paste the conflict information
[10:47] <chicken-man> benplaut, oooooh yea i forgot about that
[10:47] <benplaut> apokryphos, agreed
[10:47] <chicken-man> benplaut, thanks
[10:47] <benplaut> chicken-man, :)
[10:47] <supernix> I noticed that the latest kernel says that it conflicts with hot plug
[10:47] <dieffel> is Ubuntu Colony 3 worth a try, or should i stay with 5.04???
[10:47] <supernix> Aint that the USB system for devices
[10:47] <HappyFool> pablo928: maybe you want to do sudo gedit /var/www/index.html, or sudo gedit /var/www/apache2-default/index.html ?
[10:48] <benplaut> dieffel, i installed last night, it's great
[10:48] <pablo928> HappyFool-but /var/www has index.html for my Apache site and I want to change it.
[10:48] <dieffel> benplaut, ok
[10:48] <benplaut> dieffel, but dual-boot with hoary, just in case
[10:48] <EasterSunshine> if you really wanna change up that dir like crazy...i would open a root shell
[10:48] <HappyFool> pablo928: ok, so edit the file -- you can't edit a directory
[10:48] <dieffel> benplaut, i have a laptop to try it out.
[10:48] <pablo928> HappyFool-I'll give that a try. Thanks
[10:49] <dieffel> benplaut, what the new features? Do u have any screenshots?
[10:50] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell dieffel about breezy
[10:50] <oonoon> when i leave my computer, i get a blank screen instead of my screensaver ...
[10:50] <benplaut> dieffel, it seems much faster, gnome-panel is now transparent capable, and everything is up to date
[10:50] <benplaut> i dunno about new features
[10:50] <Seveas> apokryphos, it should be now
[10:50] <benplaut> i've used it for only an hour or so
[10:50] <Seveas> wanna do the honours? *g*
[10:50] <apokryphos> benplaut: it's really quite interesting, because the speed difference is very noticeable. Great stuff. =)
[10:50] <dieffel> benplaut, nice... where is breezy fast? boot or in generel?
[10:51] <benplaut> brb
[10:51] <pablo928> happyfool-much thanks. looks like it'll work.
[10:51] <ColonelKernel> I use the breezy kernel on hoary and it works great
[10:51] <apokryphos> Seveas: change topic? You need OP powers
[10:52] <ColonelKernel> speaking of, time to see if theres a new version - I wish there was a way to only add the breezy linux-source package to my update manager
[10:52] <dieffel> benplaut, is breezy still with the i386 as default... i drather like i686... more optimized.
[10:52] <Seveas> :)
[10:52] <EasterSunshine> if i have irssi running in a particular shell and i ssh into my comp, is there a way for me to bring irssi into the ssh session?
[10:52] <Seveas> *g*
[10:52] <apokryphos> heh
[10:52] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, screen!
[10:52] <omp342> does anyone know the name of the package i have to download so i can use custom mouse cursors?
[10:52] <Seveas> read the manpage for screen and always start irssi in a screen session
[10:53] <Seveas> omp342, gcursor (hoary) it's built-in (breezy)
[10:53] <omp342> k
[10:53] <EasterSunshine> hmm...i have never known about screen, thx seveas
[10:53] <ColonelKernel> nope no new version yet, seems like theres one every few days
[10:53] <maximaus> Hey ya'll, I've got Wart, PCLinuxOS,and XP. I want to replace PCLOS with the latest Ubuntu, keeping Warty. Will the installer successfully handle the bootloader for this?
[10:53] <EasterSunshine> seveas: i don't have manpage for screen...i installed kubuntu hoary...
[10:54] <r0bby> screen irssi
[10:54] <r0bby> ctrl+a+d
[10:54] <EasterSunshine> do i apt-get install screen?
[10:54] <Seveas> yup
[10:54] <r0bby> to reattach screen -r
[10:54] <r0bby> :D
[10:54] <oonoon> when i leave my computer, i get a blank screen instead of my screensaver, where does it come from ?
[10:54] <EasterSunshine> thx guys
[10:55] <apokryphos> I'm wondering, either [quasi-] stability has come round much slower this time round (in Breezy) or Colonies/Arrays are being released a lot earlier
[10:55] <omp342> Seveas, I don't see gcursor in synaptic. =/
[10:55] <Seveas> omp342, it's in universe
[10:55] <Seveas> !repos
[10:55] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:55] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: screen is a dependency of kubuntu-desktop -- you shuold have it already
[10:56] <EasterSunshine> happyfool: i ran debfoster quite a number of times, and removed about a million packages haphazardly
[10:56] <EasterSunshine> (not litereally a million of course)
[10:56] <apokryphos> Seveas: space reduction makes it look like there's space now for a note of #kubuntu  ;-)
[10:56] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, always keep ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop installed
[10:56] <Seveas> ubuntu-base too
[10:56] <EasterSunshine> lol ubuntu-base went bye bye a long long time ago...
[10:56] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, reinstall it
[10:56] <HappyFool> Seveas: i suppose you're going to pedantically insist on libc6 too eh? ;)
[10:56] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: it's essential to have those for upgrades, really
[10:57] <Seveas> you'll be sorry if you don't have it installed during the upgrade to breezy
[10:57] <Seveas> HappyFool, neh, an a.out libc will do :)
[10:57] <omp342> Seveas, it worked. Thanks :)
[10:57] <EasterSunshine> seveas, apokryphos: i don't ever upgrade, it makes me feel like i'm usin up the repos servers bandwidth
[10:58] <Corvus> hi
[10:58] <Hieronymus> EasterSunshine: you can also use cds to upgrade
[10:58] <EasterSunshine> my kubuntu is running fine, if something goes wrong i may consider it
[10:58] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: well, it's cheaper than using their CDs ;-)
[10:58] <EasterSunshine> i will download breezy once it comes out, thats my upgrade
[10:58] <Corvus> is there anyway i can activate dma for my dvd unit in the installation ?
[10:58] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: you shouldn't be preventing yourself fromd ownloading breezy now solely because of bandwidth, really
[10:59] <HappyFool> !dma
[10:59] <Corvus> !dma
[10:59] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: believe me, they have more than enough to cope with it :). I also doubt that they work on a "X bandwidth use -> X price". They likely have a price-plan
[10:59] <HappyFool> hmm. did ubotu msg you?
[10:59] <Corvus> :?
[10:59] <HappyFool> !dma
[10:59] <HappyFool> aargh
[10:59] <Corvus> yes...
[10:59] <cyphase> in case you haven't seen it
[10:59] <HappyFool> oh, ok. go to that wiki page
[10:59] <Corvus> [22:59]  <ubotu> you already said what dma have said. <-- is a joker or something ?
[11:00] <apokryphos> HappyFool: factoid is too large for channel ;-)
[11:00] <cyphase> good read, in a way
[11:00] <Seveas> !tell me about dam
[11:00] <HappyFool> oh
[11:00] <Seveas> !tell me about dma
[11:00] <Corvus> !tell me about dma
[11:00] <jonko> zijn er hier nededrlanders
[11:00] <HappyFool> this is a new feature to me
[11:00] <apokryphos> a lot easier to just have a /msg open; or just /msg ubotu dma
[11:00] <Seveas> jonko, jazeker :)
[11:00] <Seveas> !nl
[11:00] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:00] <Corvus> ok, reading it now
[11:01] <HappyFool> apokryphos: yeah, but i wanted corvus to see it. and that !tell thing seems kind of intrusive, but ok
[11:01] <iketurner> hey peoples.... i have a problem with the installation. The ubuntu-quick guide is not installing properly. I have the terminal log here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1405
[11:01] <apokryphos> Seveas: is there a way to put packages on hold, for a dist-upgrade? The dpkg hold seems to be ignored for dist-upgrades
[11:01] <iketurner> any ideas?
[11:01] <amonkey> why can't i play more than one thing at a time?
[11:01] <amonkey> *audio
[11:01] <Seveas> amonkey, switched of esd?
[11:02] <amonkey> Seveas, ?
[11:02] <Seveas> apokryphos, ENOIDEA, never looked at it
[11:02] <data-nerd> Hi
[11:02] <data-nerd> I used Grub
[11:02] <apokryphos> amonkey: or if your card doesn't support mixing... you could use dmix to get around it
[11:02] <data-nerd> until i reinstalled win xp
[11:02] <data-nerd> how do i get grub back?
[11:02] <data-nerd> and how do i boot ubuntu
[11:02] <amonkey> Seveas, what do you mean? switched of?
[11:02] <HappyFool> iketurner: maybe a bad .deb file?
[11:02] <Seveas> amonkey, have you disabled esd ?
[11:03] <data-nerd> Hello?
[11:03] <Corvus> amf, i already new about hdaparm
[11:03] <asparagus> i need help configuring the pcmcia wifi card on my powerbook, it works but it cant find a signal.
[11:03] <amonkey> Seveas, no, i have to kill it when i boot up so music will play
[11:03] <iketurner> HappyFool, would a new install cd help that?
[11:03] <Seveas> data-nerd, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:03] <Corvus> the problem is that i need to enable dma on install, and i don't know how to access to hdaparm
[11:03] <Seveas> amonkey, that's your problem
[11:03] <data-nerd> I have reinstalled win xp, and do not have Grub more! How can i boot up ubuntu?
[11:03] <HappyFool> iketurner: hmm, not sure
[11:03] <amonkey> Seveas, will disable
[11:03] <Seveas> teach your music player to use esd instead of killing esd
[11:03] <Corvus> i tried using hdaparm command in the install, but it isn't found
[11:03] <data-nerd> tanks seveas
[11:03] <Seveas> do NOT disable it Ambient_
[11:03] <Seveas> amonkey*
[11:04] <HappyFool> Corvus: hmm. if you use the expert install, maybe at some point you can run hdparm -- i don't know if it's available on the install cd
[11:04] <Corvus> i already used expert install, but i will try again, maybe i passed something
[11:05] <jonko> zijn er nederlanders hier
[11:05] <filip_> what is the command to move an file? i have forgot that.
[11:05] <LinuxJones> Corvus, why do you need that for installation ?
[11:05] <HappyFool> Corvus: it possibly isn't supported
[11:05] <HappyFool> jonko: /join #ubuntu-nl vir nederlands
[11:05] <tristanmike> filip_, "mv"
[11:05] <filip_> thanx
[11:05] <Stompey00> I have a quick que? I'm setting this os up for a friend and have connected anexternal modem.  I was told to sodu ln -s/dev/modem/devttys0 to establish a syslink to the serial port.  I'm a newbie so bear with me.  I take it i do this from terminal? I tried but it said invalid command.  How does one get the root in terminal like cd.. or such in widows?
[11:06] <jonko>  zijn er nederlanders hier
[11:06] <Seveas> Stompey00, ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem
[11:06] <HappyFool> jonko: daar is nederlanders in #ubuntu-nl    (excuse my afrikaans)
[11:06] <Seveas> jonko, stop eens met herhalen
[11:06] <HappyFool> sudo, no sodu
[11:06] <oonoon> i can't believe win runs little c++ programs much faster than linux
[11:06] <Velox[c] > Hah! I believe a tool on windows just gave me my answer.
[11:07] <Velox[c] > I'll run it again and try it with hd1,0
[11:07] <Stompey00> will that work from name /home/ in the terminal or do I need /?
[11:07] <splitta> anyone tried colony-3 yet ?
[11:07] <LinuxJones> oonoon, what do you mean ?
[11:07] <chris> Excuse me, could anyone please be as kind as to remind me where the file that controls repositories is located?
[11:07] <HappyFool> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <HappyFool>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:07] <chris> Thank you HappyFool
[11:07] <Velox[c] > Stompyey00: It'll work from home as its a full path.
[11:07] <HappyFool> for an more-or-less complete example, see below
[11:07] <HappyFool> !repos
[11:07] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:08] <Stompey00> thnks
[11:08] <oonoon> LinuxJones : run some stupid program that counts to one billion, u'll see that win runs it 5 to 10% faster than linux does... really surprising ; i'm a bitdisappointed
[11:08] <bimberi> Stompey00, you will need the sudo at the front too :)
[11:08] <bimberi> too late
[11:09] <splitta> anyone tried colony-3 yet ?  any showstoppers ?
[11:09] <Seveas> oonoon, use compiler optimizations...
[11:09] <HappyFool> Velox[c] : let us know if it works
[11:09] <LinuxJones> oonoon, well do you have unnecessary stuff running in the background or are other users logged in ?
[11:09] <TheWalrus> anyone here experienced with setting up VNC on boot up in Ubuntu?
[11:10] <Seveas> TheWalrus, try freenx instead, it's much better
[11:10] <HappyFool> and do you have the same level of exception handling/run time type checking / blah blah. this sort of thing is not referred to as benchmarketing for nothing ;)
[11:10] <Velox[c] > I'll definately have X-Chat open here 24/7 if it does =)
[11:10] <TheWalrus> i will look into it
[11:11] <chris> :-O  I just made changes to sources.list, how do I save after I did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and made the changes?
[11:11] <HappyFool> chris: ':wq'
[11:11] <Seveas> TheWalrus, a repository for it: deb http://ubuntulinux.nl/ /
[11:11] <data-nerd> Cya
[11:11] <data-nerd> bye
[11:11] <filip_> can someone tell me exactly how to to when i whant to install an splash screen? http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[11:11] <HappyFool> chris: ESC first (to get to command mode)
[11:11] <data-nerd> http://mobil.data-nerd.com
[11:11] <data-nerd> http://mobil.data-nerd.com
[11:11] <data-nerd> http://mobil.data-nerd.com
[11:11] <Seveas> stupid spammer
[11:11] <chris> HappyFool: thanks again, it's been a while and this is only my second time using this
[11:11] <HappyFool> chris: you might find 'nano' a bit easier
[11:11] <HappyFool> than vim, i mean
[11:12] <filip_> i have gone in to /apps/gnome-session/options but dont know what to do.
[11:12] <oonoon> LinuxJones : nothing, I even tried to quit X, to improve as much, but yet, win's the fastest grrrrr
[11:12] <TheGnome> anyone else find that the gnome-media update breaks sound in videos
[11:12] <chris> HappyFool: Yes, that's what I used last time, I couldn't remember the name of it
[11:12] <oonoon> Seveas : i hoped that g++ was already a good compilator, it is so famous (for win i use dev-c++)
[11:12] <wdh> hi ppls.. does anyone know how to get the 'Debian' menu?? on a previous install i had it sitting under 'Applications'
[11:12] <Seveas> oonoon, use g++ -O3
[11:13] <oonoon> Seveas : -03 ? what's that ?
[11:13] <HappyFool> i thought dev-c++ used cygwin?
[11:13] <Seveas> wdh, install 'menu' (and smeg)
[11:13] <Seveas> oonoon, -O3, not -03
[11:13] <Seveas> it means optimization
[11:13] <TheGnome> wdh, in ubuntu
[11:13] <oonoon> Seveas : ok ok , but what does it mean ?
[11:13] <Seveas> makes the compiler work harder to give you faster code
[11:14] <Belutz> Seveas: how to add something in crontab?
[11:14] <_meph_> hi
[11:14] <HappyFool> oonoon: i think dev-c++ uses gcc/g++ under the hood anyway
[11:14] <_meph_> What's the root password for the live cd?
[11:14] <Seveas> Belutz, crontab -e (as user) or $EDITOR /etc/crontab (as root)
[11:14] <Seveas> _meph_, there is none
[11:14] <oonoon> HappyFool : that's even more surprising then, for devc to be more advanced
[11:14] <HappyFool> oonoon: benchmarking is a difficult art
[11:14] <Belutz> Seveas: thx :)
[11:15] <Kira> How do I search for a file by file name in the terminal?
[11:15] <_meph_> Seveas: It wont let me mount a samba network share since I'm not root... any hints?
[11:15] <Seveas> _meph_, use sudo
[11:15] <oonoon> Seveas : whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
[11:15] <Seveas> oonoon, ?
[11:15] <oonoon> Seveas : what's that -O3 , i got a world record
[11:15] <splitta> anyone tried colony-3 yet ?  any showstoppers ?
[11:15] <Seveas> oonoon, hehehe :)
[11:15] <HappyFool> oonoon: you need to discover all possible discrepancies between the systems; also, consider using different workloads (counting is not especially representative, imo)
[11:15] <oonoon> Seveas : that's huge, i divided by almost a factor 4, the execution time
[11:16] <Seveas> HappyFool, benchmarks are crap anyway :)
[11:16] <TheGnome> hey if i comment out my cd as a source.....it will grab packages from the net that it would usually get from the cd right?
[11:16] <HappyFool> Seveas: as produced by marketers, maybe, but they can give some indication of performance
[11:16] <LinuxJones> oonoon, so now Microsoft is 400 % slower now ?
[11:16] <HappyFool> heh
[11:17] <r0bby> TheGnome, yes
[11:17] <pajaraco> hi
[11:17] <r0bby> you should comment out your cd anyways, as the packages on the net are likely newer
[11:17] <pajaraco> moin
[11:17] <TheGnome> r0bby, ok thanks
[11:17] <d2dchat> how do i upgrade things like firefox?
[11:17] <oonoon> LinuxJones: yeah , MS is beaten, by far
[11:17] <d2dchat> is there a command in ubuntu that acts like emerge in gentoo?
[11:18] <oonoon> Seveas : shhhh, i dont understand your stuff, whats that option ? maybe it does also exist on devc
[11:18] <spritey> d2dchat, well, apt?
[11:18] <LinuxJones> oonoon, that would make a great "Unbiased TCO Study" for development environments :D
[11:18] <d2dchat> apt?
[11:18] <crimsun> apt-get build-dep $package && apt-get -b source $package
[11:18] <d2dchat> spritey, is the comand apt?
[11:18] <oonoon> LinuxJones: yeah, my comparative study does not pretend to any kind of generality ;)
[11:19] <LinuxJones> oonoon, ;)
[11:19] <spritey> d2dchat, no direct .... more apt-get
[11:19] <dech> Hi all, anyone here know anything about ATI drivers ?
[11:19] <spritey> dech, i hate them ...
[11:19] <blueyed> How can I use redirect/piping of output with sudo? Like doing the following all for the user: "sudo -u web7 echo test>test.tmp" - would I need to create a script?
[11:19] <dech> Hehe
[11:19] <oonoon> Seveas : do u keep your secret for yourself ? :-)
[11:19] <TheGnome> dech, i do
[11:19] <d2dchat> spritey, more apt-get ? what does it do exactly?
[11:19] <dech> I installed them and my et crashes ran glxgears and i get about 100fps-1000fps
[11:20] <TheGnome> dech, and i think they are great
[11:20] <dech> TheGnome care to help me then ? :)
[11:20] <spritey> d2dchat, its install or remove .deb packages from internet or etc. for searching packages do apt-cache search [package] 
[11:20] <yath> d2dchat: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[11:21] <TheGnome> dech, yeah i will try my best...pm me
[11:21] <chris> What is a good xmms replacement?
[11:21] <pang> hi
[11:21] <spritey> dech, i think u have to recompile your kernel
[11:21] <Seveas> chris, beep-media-player
[11:21] <d2dchat> Also, i have a  question about wireless drivers, does ubuntu come with wireless drivers? or do u need to install them?
[11:21] <Seveas> oonoon, -O3 is a compiler optimization, read the manpage for g++ for more details
[11:21] <chris> Seveas, Thank you.
[11:22] <omp342> would HL2 work with WINE?
[11:22] <omp342> or will i need cedega?
[11:22] <yath> d2dchat: many are supported, it depends what adapter you have exactly.
[11:22] <oonoon> Seveas : ok thx
[11:22] <spritey> d2dchat, my iBook works very well with wlan
[11:22] <TheGnome> omp342, doesnt work with either
[11:22] <omp342> =o
[11:22] <d2dchat> So i just need to look around?:)
[11:22] <spritey> d2dchat, without doing something special
[11:22] <TheWalrus> im having a problem getting freenx to install. When i update my source list to get the freenx release it will not connect to the sources anyone know if they are down or if there are new sources?
[11:22] <Seveas> TheWalrus, which repository do you use for freenx?
[11:23] <TheWalrus> this is what im following
[11:23] <yath> d2dchat: do "iwconfig" and if you see info, the driver is loaded. Else look in "lspci" and try to find the driver.
[11:23] <TheGnome> how do i restart alsa?
[11:23] <TheWalrus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[11:23] <Seveas> bad idea
[11:23] <Seveas> I'll update that page now
[11:23] <Velox> !grub
[11:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:23] <Seveas> TheWalrus, check that page in ~15 minutes
[11:23] <TheWalrus> ok i will
[11:23] <r0bby> !ndiswrappers
[11:23] <ubotu> r0bby: Syntax error in line 1
[11:23] <TheWalrus> thank you
[11:24] <Kira> !ndiswrapper
[11:24] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:24] <d2dchat> says there are no wireless connections in lo, eth0 and the other one
[11:24] <d2dchat> sit0
[11:24] <mpmc> !info music
[11:24] <yath> d2dchat: no extensions
[11:24] <zerboxx_away> Is there a way to see if someone is connected to my computer through ssh?
[11:24] <zerboxx_away> and to see if they leave :)?
[11:24] <d2dchat> yes, no extentions
[11:24] <lampshade> netstat
[11:24] <lampshade> or maybe who
[11:25] <lampshade> try who, does who show that stuff?
[11:25] <omp342> TheGnome, according to linux-gamers.net you can get steam running with cedega
[11:25] <yath> d2dchat: then the adapter is less than well-supported :/  try lspci to identify it
[11:25] <omp342> TheGnome, so won't that mean you can play HL2
[11:25] <zerboxx_away> who shows my name twice, and root once
[11:25] <d2dchat> 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference C ard (rev 01)
[11:25] <Velox> Hmm, hd0,0 is ex2fs, but that didn't appear to work.
[11:25] <d2dchat> i think that is what i want
[11:25] <lampshade> zerboxx_away:  I would say who or netstat I think would be able to do it.  I'm kinda noob at this obviously :)
[11:25] <d2dchat> i found it in lspci
[11:25] <zerboxx_away> lampshade: Seems good, thanks :)
[11:26] <d2dchat> yath, http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[11:26] <d2dchat> woops
[11:26] <d2dchat> yath, 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference C ard (rev 01)
[11:26] <yath> d2dchat: try modprobe ray_cs
[11:26] <Kira> I can't run yelp. Permission denied. o_O
[11:27] <yath> and then iwconfig
[11:27] <d2dchat> WARNING: Error inserting pcmcia_core (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:27] <d2dchat> WARNING: Error inserting pcmcia (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/pcmcia.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:27] <d2dchat> FATAL: Error inserting ray_cs (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ray_cs.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:27] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, please stop spamming in here
[11:27] <Seveas> TheWalrus, page is updated now
[11:27] <d2dchat> sorry:(
[11:27] <TheWalrus> thank you
[11:27] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, Very unintentional
[11:27] <yath> d2dchat: I don't often say to use sudo, but it's necessary for most stuff like this
[11:27] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, I know it happens :)
[11:27] <d2dchat> yath, not sure how to use sudo
[11:27] <TheWalrus> should i use both of those /'s or just one?
[11:28] <Seveas> both
[11:28] <yath> $ sudo modprobe ray_cs
[11:28] <TheWalrus> ok
[11:28] <Seveas> with a space in between
[11:28] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, I just forgot how useful the middle mouse button was so i was abusing it;)
[11:29] <ilba7r> anyone know where i can find information on the recent kernel update for the linux-image-k7?
[11:29] <ilba7r> i just want to know what is the update about so i can decide if it is worth upgrading
[11:29] <Seveas> it has a security upgrade
[11:29] <cyphase> what's that utility that generates a map of your filesystem usage?
[11:30] <HappyFool> cyphase: df maybe?
[11:30] <Seveas> ilba7r, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-169-1
[11:30] <ilba7r> is there a security risk in the old kernel
[11:30] <amonkey> Seveas, i did the thing and it still doesn't work. don't have to kill esd to make it work, but still only one thing at a time
[11:30] <cyphase> nvm, got it
[11:30] <cyphase> filelight
[11:30] <hajiki> anyone have problems with sound (not getting any) with totem-xine and flash plugin for firefox?
[11:30] <ilba7r> thanx seveas
[11:30] <cyphase> very useful tool
[11:30] <Seveas> amonkey, you should have read what i said
[11:30] <Seveas> you should NOT disable esd
[11:31] <Seveas> and simply teach your applications to *use* it
[11:31] <yath> ilba7r: linux-image-2.6.12-7 ?
[11:31] <yath> woops
[11:31] <cyphase> i'm all for diversity, but linux needs a standard sound interface
[11:32] <crimsun> cyphase: it has an API. In fact, it has 2.
[11:32] <yath> anyone here using breezy colony 3?
[11:32] <cyphase> yath, i'm downloading it
[11:32] <cyphase> crimsun, 2 is one to many
[11:33] <yath> cyphase: are you using a laptop? my battery monitor isn't working right
[11:33] <crimsun> cyphase: tell that to the OSS detractors
[11:33] <TheWalrus> So do I have to do anything to configure FreeNX so that I can login to Ubuntu from the login screen remotely?
[11:33] <cyphase> yath, downloading..
[11:33] <cyphase> yath, but i have a breezy live cd loaded on a laptop behind me
[11:33] <cyphase> battery monitor is fine
[11:33] <tristanmike> crimsun, i was told you were the person to ask about sound, do you mind, i have a question
[11:33] <yath> hmm
[11:33] <crimsun> tristanmike: shoot
[11:33] <benplaut_> how often does nickserv make sure people are actually gone?
[11:34] <Seveas> TheWalrus, no
[11:34] <Seveas> only the things on that wikipage
[11:34] <tristanmike> crimsun, ok thanx, sound is fine, it's more of a tweaking issue, I want to get my rear speakers working
[11:34] <TheWalrus> ok thanks
[11:34] <Seveas> benplaut_, /msg nickserv ghost benplaut YOUR_PASSWORD
[11:34] <crimsun> tristanmike: did you adjust the Surround volume using amixer (or another mixer)?
[11:34] <tristanmike> crimsun, I have a soundblaster Live! card and I used the speaker test and know I can get sound to them
[11:35] <amonkey> Seveas, sorry, i thought you meant the thing on ubuntu guide about esd (how to make sound work in gnome) that's what i did.
[11:35] <tristanmike> crimsun, yes, I have used aslamixer and the "obvious" settings are all at 100%
[11:35] <nudnick> Can anyone help me out? My system is hanging when i get to a certian point in the installaion. It hangs during the detect hardware part while it says "Starting PC Card Services..."
[11:35] <benplaut> ah, that worked :P
[11:35] <Seveas> amonkey, that piece of ubuntuguide is utter crap
[11:35] <tristanmike> crimsun, however, if i do adjust something in alsamixer, do i need to restart alsa for the changes to take affect?
[11:35] <amonkey> what do you suggest instead
[11:35] <EasterSunshine> wiki
[11:36] <nudnick> anyone?
[11:36] <crimsun> tristanmike: please paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl and tell me the URL. No, you don't need to restart ALSA.
[11:36] <tristanmike> how do I get the output aside from the gui, or is that what you mean?
[11:36] <EasterSunshine> amonkey: wiki.ubuntu.org or something... the wiki pages for ubuntu
[11:36] <nudnick> Can anyone help me out when they get a chance?
[11:37] <Seveas> amonkey, as I said 2 times already: keeping esd enabled and teaching your application to use it...
[11:37] <tristanmike> crimsun, how do I get the output aside from the gui, or is that what you mean?, sorry
[11:37] <crimsun> tristanmike: from a Terminal
[11:37] <jtan325> man i am having the weirdest problem with gaim. i can log in to my yahoo and msn accounts, but my aim account seems to freeze on the login process, either on the "connecting" part or "receiving authroization". i am pretty sure the aim account is alright, because i tried remote desktopping into my work computer and was able to log in there (using gaim). any ideas?
[11:38] <blk> does somebody know about the state of keyboard-layouts in breezy? i can't seem to get de_CH working - it is set in gconf aswell as in xorg.conf, when switching from the keyboard-pref.-gui i get an "error activating XKB conf."
[11:38] <tristanmike> crimsun, yeah, sorry, i should have been more specific, do you mean post sudo alsamixer?
[11:38] <crimsun> tristanmike: no, open a Terminal, type amixer, then post that output
[11:39] <SolitaryCritic> I just installed ubuntu on my other computer and after it told me to remove the disc and restart it said Operating System not Found
[11:39] <omp342> hmm
[11:39] <tristanmike> crimsun, gotch
[11:39] <SolitaryCritic> whats the problem
[11:39] <nudnick> SolitaryCritic -
[11:39] <nudnick> Can anyone help me out? My system is hanging when i get to a certian point in the installaion. It hangs during the detect hardware part while it says "Starting PC Card Services..."
[11:39] <nudnick> thats my problem
[11:40] <omp342> would it be stupid to not use the amd64 version of ubuntu if i have a 64-bit processor?
[11:40] <tristanmike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1407
[11:40] <benplaut> nudnick, laptop?
[11:40] <_meph_> hey is there a way to use dd with a stream instead of a file
[11:40] <_meph_> for the input
[11:41] <tristanmike> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1407 sorry, :(
[11:41] <TheWalrus> Ok so when I try to login to the machine with FreeNX from the FreeNX windows Client I have it gives me an error stating "The inititialization of the local X Server Failed. Error is: Cannot find the 'tmp' mount point in the registry."
[11:41] <Velox> >_< die GRUB!
[11:41] <dech> thanks EasterSunshine
[11:41] <nudnick> benplaut
[11:41] <nudnick> yes
[11:42] <benplaut> take out all your cardbus/pcmcia cards
[11:42] <crimsun> tristanmike: you skipped the "Wave ..." ones. They're all set to 0 vol.
[11:42] <nudnick> i dont have any in
[11:42] <hoffmanos> hola
[11:42] <benplaut> oh
[11:42] <benplaut> nudnick, i dunno...
[11:43] <TheWalrus> does that mean that something is configured wrong on the Ubuntu box or on my Windows machine?
[11:43] <lurah> http://koti.phnet.fi/heinkai/images/sekaa/fart.jpg
[11:43] <lurah> :D
[11:43] <tristanmike> crimsun, ok, i wouldn't have turned those up in my quest, I wouldn't have thought they'd have anything to do with it
[11:43] <ThreeDayMonk> Hi.  I'm building a package that's not available in the repos (a ruby library for chasen, a japanese morphological analyser).  I can build the library OK, but when I try to use it in Ruby, I get "chasen.so: undefined symbol: _Znwj".  According to c++filt, that's new().  Google turns up nothing.  What can I do?
[11:44] <nudnick> benplaut, what else do you think the problem could be
[11:44] <TheGnome> nobody else was effected by the gnome-media update?
[11:44] <nudnick> there are no cards or anythin
[11:44] <benplaut> nudnick, i dunno...
[11:44] <nudnick> anyone else got any ideas?
[11:45] <tristanmike> crimsun, OMG you're a F'n God, I got a little fuzz going on, but it's there
[11:45] <crimsun> nudnick: you can disable the loading of pcmcia drivers from the boot line
[11:45] <tristanmike> crimsun, the fuzz is from the front two speakers only
[11:45] <nudnick> how do i do that
[11:45] <benplaut> in breezy, can i add the hoary repos to my list so i can get java?
[11:46] <crimsun> nudnick: see the help by pressing F3 when the boot line appears when you boot from the installer cd
[11:46] <crimsun> tristanmike: you might want to turn down Surround, then
[11:47] <tristanmike> crimsun, yeah, absolutely, I'll tinker, thank you so very much
[11:47] <tristanmike> UBUNTU ROCKS!!!!
[11:47] <TheGnome> yes
[11:47] <TheGnome> it does
[11:47] <benplaut> we know :P
[11:47] <nudnick> crimsun. would you mind walking me through it i'm really new to linux
[11:47] <tristanmike> I know, I just got excited
[11:47] <hardw1re> hmmm just checking the ubuntu amd 64 packages, and i noticed on the forum they said there was no wine. is there a way to get it running on hoary5.04 amd 64, or is there no chance?
[11:48] <Velox> Ubuntu rocks, GRUB sucks :P
[11:48] <crimsun> nudnick: when you boot from the installer cd, there's an orange Ubuntu screen that shows up
[11:48] <benplaut> agreed
[11:48] <nudnick> would it be like boot: pcmcia:off   ?
[11:48] <crimsun> nudnick: press F3
[11:48] <ThreeDayMonk> Velox: Yes.  Yes, it does.
[11:48] <crimsun> nudnick: something along those lines
[11:48] <nudnick> i'm at that screen
[11:48] <ompaul> !irclog
[11:48] <ubotu> ompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:48] <Velox> Maybe LILO would work better for me.
[11:48] <hardw1re> oooh is someone talking about grub?
[11:48] <Velox> GRUB is evil.
[11:48] <Velox> GRUB won't load.
[11:48] <TheGnome> i like grub
[11:48] <nudnick> that dosen't work
[11:49] <ThreeDayMonk> grub is especially problematic on old computers that can't access the whole disk through bios
[11:49] <crimsun> nudnick: F1?
[11:49] <hardw1re> my windows os sits on a sata drive, in order to boot from it i have to tell my bios to boot that drive 1st, grub doesnt seem to be able to boot my windows os
[11:49] <TheGnome> i have a sata drive that works fine
[11:49] <hardw1re> yeah well linux sits on an ide drive
[11:49] <nudnick> crimsun: I hit F1. then hit F3. then i type in pcmcia=off and hit enter but it dosen't accept it
[11:50] <hardw1re> and installs to the boot of that disk
[11:50] <crimsun> nudnick: you need to type the image name first.
[11:50] <Velox> hardw1re: thats alot like my situation. I have two drives, 120gb SATA and 40gb IDE. Linux is on the IDE drive, installed it, set my BIOS to boot from IDE drive and GRUB doesn't load.
[11:50] <hardw1re> so to boot linux i set the bios to run that drive 1st, to boot windows i have to edit the other drive
[11:50] <crimsun> nudnick: linux pcmcia=off
[11:50] <ThreeDayMonk> all you kids with SATA - I have never even *seen* an SATA drive :-(
[11:50] <benplaut> in breezy, can i add the hoary repos to my list so i can get java?
[11:50] <crimsun> ThreeDayMonk: don't worry, they still break when you throw them off a skyscraper
[11:50] <hardw1re> (IDE Interfaces):[PCI device 10de:00e5 (nVidia Corporation) (rev 162)] 
[11:50] <Spudchat> did anyone get video out to work with a nvidia geforce 6800 go?
[11:50] <hardw1re> hmm
[11:50] <hardw1re> thats not what i was looking for
[11:50] <loupous> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:51] <Spudchat> i looked at the documentation and did what it said but i still have no luck :(
[11:51] <ThreeDayMonk> crimsun: heh.  I dropped a 250GB disk last weekend.  Not good.
[11:51] <nudnick> crimsun. i typed in linux pcmcia:off but it still stalls there
[11:51] <TheGnome> wow that sun-j2re1.5 package actually links to firefox correctly noqw
[11:51] <nudnick> will you be on later because i have to go
[11:52] <crimsun> nudnick: I may, but ping me first
[11:52] <hardw1re> well basically grub is trying to boot from the wrong place to try and boot windows
[11:52] <crimsun> argh, silly Digital_Warrior0
[11:52] <hardw1re> windows is on sda5
[11:52] <hardw1re> and linux is on hda5
[11:52] <TheWalrus> Now I am getting an Error Unknown when trying to login using FreeNX any suggestions?
[11:53] <Scrawny1> hey guys I've used google and can't find a thing, what I'm looking for a .deb bible program that I can use for Ubuntu, can anyone possibly help?
[11:53] <Tatster> hi - I have a permissions problem that I'm not sure how to solve. anthony@beta:/$ sudo chmod 777 scsi/
[11:53] <Tatster> chmod: changing permissions of `scsi/': Read-only file system
[11:54] <crimsun> Scrawny1: aptitude search bible
[11:54] <hardw1re> .deb bible?
[11:54] <kemik> Tatster:  have you mounted your SCSI drive as Read-Only ?
[11:55] <hardw1re> Spudchat: i have a 6800 running here but i dont se the video out
[11:55] <Spudchat> ok
[11:55] <Tatster> I didn't think I did - here is the line from /etc/fstab -  /dev/sda1       /scsi           ext3    defaults        0       0
[11:55] <nariman> HELP!
[11:55] <Scrawny1> ok I've found bibletime how do I pull it and get it installed?
[11:56] <nariman> i try to run Gta2 on my wine
[11:56] <nariman> (fresh installed)
[11:56] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: maybe you'd find synaptic easier
[11:56] <nariman> and it gta2 complains about it cant find language files
[11:56] <ThreeDayMonk> but if you are in the console, sudo apt-get install bibletime
[11:56] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, sorry was afk
[11:56] <nariman> whats wrong??
[11:57] <Tatster> kemik: Is that correct?
[11:57] <Scrawny1> I got an error when I tried that :(
[11:57] <kemik> Tatster:  looks sort of correct yes
[11:57] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: what kind of error?
[11:57] <thekman> apt-get install bibletime
[11:57] <Tatster> sort of? Is that good or bad?
[11:58] <kemik> Tatster:  if you do a "ls -lha" on the device "root-dir" see what permissions it has and owner
[11:58] <kemik> Tatster:  and use pastebin if the output is > 2 lines
[11:59] <yath> heh d2dchat has serious paste issues
[11:59] <SolitaryCritic> I tried intalling ubuntu again and it said operating system not found after I restarted
[11:59] <Scrawny1> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) <----this is the error I get
[11:59] <TheWalrus> Now I am getting an Error Unknown while the client is setting up the X Enviroment when trying to login using FreeNX anyone know why this is occuring or how to fix it?
[11:59] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, np, you just missing my spam
[11:59] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, ;)
[11:59] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: you've been messing around with .debs?
[12:00] <Scrawny1> ah no this is the first time this has happened